[08:13] <Dark_Anakin> hello
[09:49] <Lure> mjg59: are suspend regressions on feisty known (HP nw8240)? 
[09:49] <mjg59> Lure: I lack the time to keep track of every bug, I'm afraid :)
[09:50] <mjg59> Lure: If it's in Launchpad, then yes. If not, then no.
[09:50] <Lure> mjg59: ok, I will check and submit my data
[09:51] <mjg59> Lure: No PM stuff other than the kernel has changed, so file it against that
[09:51] <Lure> mjg59: thanks, will do
[10:30] <Solarion> any recommendation for power saving on a notebook?  It seems to suck power much faster than it used to under a different linux.
[10:31] <jldugger> cpufreq on?
[10:32] <Solarion> define "on".  It switches around on cpu speed, depending on load.
[10:32] <jldugger> well, clocks down on idle is fine enough
[10:32] <Solarion> heya jldugger
[10:32] <jldugger> you can set it always low if you're desperate
[10:32] <Solarion> I just wish I knew where the drain was
[10:32] <jldugger> hey
[10:33] <jldugger> i vaguely knew that
[10:33] <Solarion> actually, I'm solarion from gnome too, but not on irc.  ;)
[10:33] <Solarion> wonder if it's the r300 driver?
[10:33] <jldugger> #k-slug
[10:33] <Solarion> oh, that too
[10:33] <jldugger> thats where i primarily know you
[10:33] <Solarion> heh
[10:34] <Solarion> anyhow, any ideas?
[10:34] <jldugger> backlight
[10:34] <jldugger> hard drive
[10:34] <Solarion> nah, that's pretty much the same.
[10:34] <Solarion> hard drive might be spun up more
[10:34] <jldugger> tickless kernel
[10:34] <Solarion> that's probably in feisty+1
[10:34] <jldugger> remove CDs from the drive
[10:35] <jldugger> turn off stuff you don't use like bluetooth
[10:35] <Solarion> 2.6.19 has some infrasturcutre, but it looks like the actual tickless patches didn't make it
[10:35] <Solarion> I wonder if network-manager is part of the problem
[10:35] <Solarion> is there an easy bt on/off switch?
[10:35] <jldugger> there is on mine ;)
[10:35] <jldugger> its right next to the microphone
[10:35] <Solarion> jldugger: what is it?
[10:36] <jldugger> its a hardware switch :P
[10:36] <Solarion> ah, in bios?
[10:36] <Solarion> LAME.  ;)
[10:36] <Solarion> given that networkmanager keeps both cards fired up, I wonder if that's the drain
[10:36] <jldugger> there's also an Fn-button combo that optionally switches off wifi/bt/both
[10:37] <jldugger> well, the new gnome has a nice power manager tool
[10:37] <Solarion> new?
[10:37] <jldugger> you can watch a graph of power usage over time
[10:37] <jldugger> new-ish to me
[10:37] <Solarion> 2.16?
[10:37] <jldugger> yea
[10:38] <Solarion> oh, hey.  there it is.
[10:38] <jldugger> Solarion from Gnome, you say?
[10:38] <Solarion> well, my userid
[10:38] <Solarion> I'm Trelane on irc.gnome.org.
[10:39] <jldugger> im just teasing you about not finding it before i did
[10:39] <Solarion> ah
[10:40] <jldugger> one thing to note is that the prediction isnt very linear
[10:40] <jldugger> as time goes on estimate time kinda goes up
[10:40] <Solarion> like an exp modeled linear, yes
[10:41] <jldugger> im sure you computational physicists know more about what kind of regression it is
[10:41] <Solarion> pfft
[10:41] <jldugger> anyways, my laptop idles around something like 20W
[10:41] <Solarion> did you see the battery recall notifier?
[10:41] <Solarion> talk about awesome
[10:42] <jldugger> ?
[10:42] <jldugger> cant say i did
[10:42] <Solarion> someone hacked in battery recall notification.  Basically called the community to send in info from recalled and non-recalled batteries, and got gnome-power-manager to notify you if your battery may be recalled.
[10:42] <Solarion> looks like mine idles at around 20W too
[10:43] <jldugger> wonder how low it got in your other distro
[10:43] <Solarion> it was gentoo.  I dunno.
[10:43] <Solarion> I had maxed out some stuff too
[10:44] <jldugger> if you think it's r300, try switching to vesa and see if that gets you anywhere
[10:44] <Solarion> I'd rather run r300.  :)
[10:44] <Solarion> I'm thinking it might be networkmanager + hard drive
[10:44] <jldugger> you can at least rule it out :P
[10:44] <Solarion> one is more readily solvable by me than the other
[10:44] <Solarion> and if I get *one* more notificaton pop up and seize input, I'm gonna strangle it
[10:45] <jldugger> yea, network manager isn't quite finished
[10:45] <jldugger> really hates suspend in edgy
[10:45] <Solarion> it's awesome, but it should go lower power.  :(
[10:45] <jldugger> and the damn keyring
[10:46] <Solarion> I've not had much problem, save one weird case where it was eating cpu until the next suspend-resume
[10:46] <Solarion> yes, keyring is annoying
[10:46] <jldugger> maybe it was hibernate, but it totally tanks on one of those
[10:47] <Solarion> I think I fixed it for me
[10:47] <Solarion> can't find devices and stuff
[10:47] <jldugger> well, im one of those evil nvidia users, so it really doesn't matter too much whether suspend works or not
[10:48] <Solarion> heh
[10:48] <Solarion> you're not evil
[10:48] <Solarion> a fool, but not evil... ;)
[10:48] <jldugger> here's hoping neauvou works out
[10:48] <Solarion> yep
[10:52] <jldugger> so you think that network manager is somehow setting your wifi signal strength too high? or just running too often?
[10:54] <ajmitch> might be causing things to scan too often
[11:00] <Solarion> scan too often.  It'd be nice if it'd just power down a card if the other's being used.  It'd also be nice if g-p-m would set the cards to low-pwer mode.
[11:01] <jldugger> a card?
[11:01] <Solarion> yes
[11:01] <jldugger> just how many are in that laptop?
[11:01] <Solarion> 2
[11:02] <Solarion> 1 builtin ipw2100, one pcmcia atheros