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DrCubI have a flashing cursor in the upper left hand corner that allows me to type something in12:13
aileanangasule, to be honest i don't know. i take it that's the file that lists current pci devices?12:14
angasuleailean: actually, it's a directory with some stuff, why do you need it?12:15
aileanangasule, no, that's a directory you've given me . . . i'm looking for something akin to this: http://people.debian.org/~wouter/laptop/node20.html12:15
aileanangasule, just trying to learn about the system12:15
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aileanangasule, not doing anything in particular, but my book says that that file is there12:15
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angasuleailean: that was written at the beginning of 2004, apparently, that's almost 3 years old, so many of the specifics are likely wrong, and I think /proc in particular changes often12:17
DrCubwell I restarted, startkde and startx still don't do anything12:18
DrCubwell other then errors12:18
aileanangasule, right :)12:18
aileanangasule, okay, thanks for your help :) I'll move on :D12:18
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uphillhi i have a sb128 pci with 4.112:19
uphillcan i you that for seperate output for jackd?12:19
uphilli mean 2 sterio output channels12:19
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DrCubcould this be a graphical issue?12:23
morticiwhats a good firefox plugin to play audio/video in the browser?12:24
coreymon77hey guys12:24
coreymon77is there any sort of kubuntu-kubuntu remote assistance type thing for kubuntu?12:24
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coreymon77guys?12:26
MalfermitaKodohmmm, X-forwarding?12:26
MalfermitaKodoo... you just mean in general12:26
coreymon77i have a friend who just got kubuntu12:26
MalfermitaKodosorry, VERY low on caffeine12:27
MalfermitaKodoyeah?12:27
coreymon77and i want to use a remote assistance type thing )if it exists) to help him get started12:27
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nixternalcoreymon77: KMenu > Internet > krfb and krdc12:27
coreymon77how do i use it12:28
coreymon77and which one should i use12:28
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nixternaluse krfb on his machine, and then you will connect to him with krdc12:28
nixternalwhen connecting with krdc you would type:    ip.add.re.ss:012:28
DrCubplease guys, I have to go soon12:28
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coreymon77okay look12:29
coreymon77i want to connect to and vontrol his computer12:29
marciomrahi?12:29
nixternalcoreymon77: it works pretty much the same as mstc does in windows xp12:29
DrCubcoreymon77 are you talking to me12:30
nixternalyou will have full control of his system12:30
coreymon77which program does he use12:30
nixternalwhats up DrCub ?12:30
DrCubwell I can't get KDE to start12:30
nixternalhe uses the krfb and creates an invitation for you12:30
DrCubI tried startx and it gives me an error12:30
nixternalDrCub: was it working before?12:30
DrCubnope, it never was12:31
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nixternalhrmm..what video card?12:31
coreymon77okay12:31
coreymon77now12:31
DrCubhold on please12:31
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EightiesK!mp312:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:31
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EightiesKhow do i enable mp3?12:34
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nixternalEightiesK: install libxine-extracodecs12:35
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snowicewhich port to I need to open in my firewall to receive webcam from yahoo contacts?12:36
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DrCubnixternal it's 12:36
DrCubIntegrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (GMA950)12:36
Schuenemannhi, what do I have to do to play music in kubuntu?12:36
DrCubThis is a friend, he said he was asked what kind of graphics card he has and he said ATI12:36
nixternalhrmm, that should be good to go from the getup...good graphics card by the way (it is open and freeeeeee)12:37
sirjinxHi, can someone help me with my laptop? Well, I mostly need to know how to start the powermanagement program from the command line.12:37
nixternalDrCub: try this when you are sitting there stairing at a black screen:      Alt+F712:37
nixternalsee if that tries and starts KDM12:37
DrCubwell there's no blank screen12:38
nixternalwhat does it kick you out to? a prompt?12:38
DrCubhe logins and he types startx12:38
DrCubthen he gets an error12:38
nixternalahh, ok12:38
Schuenemannwhat do I have to do to play music in kubuntu?12:38
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nixternalmaybe he should try:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:39
DrCub[Thu:04:53:42:pm]  <DrCub> It said No screens sound12:39
DrCub[Thu:04:55:54:pm]  <DrCub> It also says No device is detected12:39
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nixternalrebuild x-server12:39
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DrCubok I'll try12:39
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BluesKaj!libjpeg-devel12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libjpeg-devel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:40
Schuenemann!amarok12:41
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org12:41
nixternal!libjpeg-dev12:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libjpeg-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
nixternalhrmm...there is something that tells you about it, but this bot is smarter than i apparently12:41
LjL!find libjpeg12:41
ubotuFound: libjpeg-progs, libjpeg62, libjpeg62-dev, libjpeg-mmx-dev, libjpeg-mmx-progs12:41
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nixternalleave it up to LjL to outsmart me ;p12:41
DrCubnixternal which one should I do12:41
LjL!info libjpeg62-dev12:42
ubotulibjpeg62-dev: Development files for the IJG JPEG library. In component main, is optional. Version 6b-13 (edgy), package size 180 kB, installed size 416 kB12:42
DrCubthe first one you gave me or the second one12:42
Schuenemannhow can I make kubuntu play music?12:42
nixternalDrCub: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:42
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DrCubok12:42
LjL!players12:42
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs12:42
nixternalSchuenemann: install libxine-extracodecs12:42
DrCubok12:42
DrCubnow he's gonna try startx again12:43
Schuenemannnixternal: in apt-get? that was not found12:43
LjL!info libxine-extracodecs12:44
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB12:44
LjLUbotu, tell Schuenemann about multiverse | Schuenemann, see the private message from Ubotu12:44
nixternalSchuenemann: in your /etc/apt/sources.list you need to add multiverse12:44
nixternalinfo is the one12:44
BluesKajnope, gotta be libjpeg62-dev12:44
BluesKajerr gotta be libjpeg-devel12:45
BluesKajalready have the 6212:45
ZeuGiRDoRI have an usb bluetooth adapter (Conceptronic cbt200u2) on Edgy, when I plug in, it's recognised by bluetooth daemon, but in bluetooth obex client I can't see any devices. What happens?12:45
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DrCubis there a way I could remotely control his PC?12:45
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aileanif (when feisty is ready) i decide to upgrade using the Kubuntu disc from Ubuntu, will there be any problem?12:45
Schuenemann# deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse12:46
Schuenemannthis one?12:46
aileani.e. ubuntu edgy -> kubuntu feisty12:46
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ehirdum12:46
ehirdapaitude tells me i should remove about 70% of my package12:47
nixternalDrCub: if he creates an invitation, he can email it to you, or get it to you somehow12:47
ehirdhow can i tell it to shut the f**k up about those ones and stop spazzing out? ;-)12:47
nixternalbut once he sets up the remote desktop sharing, then you can use krdc to connect to him12:47
DrCubIt's ok, we'll do this a different time12:47
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nixternalDrCub: if im around, hit me up12:47
DrCubok12:47
DrCubthanks for you time and help12:47
nixternalno problem, have a good one!12:48
DrCubit'll probaly be tommorow :)12:48
nixternali will be here12:48
nixternalsomewhere12:48
DrCubor less you die...12:48
DrCub:)12:48
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coreymon77okay12:50
coreymon77in order to get the hang of this remote desktop on linux thing12:50
DrCubis there a text based irc client HE could use in kubuntu nixternal12:50
coreymon77can someone let me try it out on their computer for a sec12:50
coreymon77i wont do anything to it12:50
coreymon77just to see how to connect12:50
nixternalDrCub: irssi12:51
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DrCubok, is that built in or how would he download it?12:51
DrCuband he uses wifi, would that be an issue?12:51
nixternalcoreymon77: to connect you type his address followed :0   the :0 tells it to connect to term/port 0 which is where the virtual connection will be made12:52
nixternal192.168.1.100:012:52
coreymon77thats you?12:53
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nixternalno no...replace the 192.168.1.100 with his IP address12:53
coreymon77he will prob do it by invitation12:53
nixternali don't have remote desktop setup, plus I don't know you :)12:53
coreymon77i wont do anything12:53
[Relic] is the trolltec Qt   Qt in packages or is Qt in packages quicktime?12:53
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coreymon77ive been in this channel for years12:53
DrCubOh well, I have to go. Thanks again nixternal!12:54
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nixternalcoreymon77: also check out KControl > Internet & Network > Desktop Sharing (you get to KControl by pressing Alt+F2 and then typing in kcontrol)12:54
nixternalno prob DrCub, cya later12:54
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coreymon77also, i dont think he has static ip set12:54
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nixternalcoreymon77: that doesn't matter, he can get his ISP IP from his router or going to a website that tells you what it is12:55
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nixternali gotta run off for a few..i will bbiab12:55
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kerwonzwhat's happen with the server 195.248.90.35 it's down for kde updates?01:00
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vadoRe01:05
ScottAnixternal: I'm the friend of DrCub. Could we pick up where you and him left off?01:05
ScottAanyways, If anyone here could help me, that would be great. I recently installed kubuntu, but I cannot get KDE to run.01:06
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ScottAhello?01:07
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ErikTheRedScottA: Can you be more specific?01:08
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BluesKajScottA, just ask your question01:10
ScottAsrry01:10
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BluesKajnp :)01:10
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ScottAWhen I boot my computer, and select Ubuntu 6.10 (for some reason it says Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu). Then the Kubuntu loading screen comes, and after I log in, I am just prompted with 'scott@Scott:~$'01:11
ScottAI tried startx01:12
ErikTheRedwhat does doing startx say?01:12
ScottAI recieved an error saying 'no screens found'01:12
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ErikTheRedhmm01:13
ErikTheRedit says nothing refering to a driver or anything like that?01:13
ScottAhld. me checks.01:13
ScottA'(EE) No devices detected' is all that I could find vaguely pertaining to drivers.01:15
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ErikTheRedwhat kind of video card are you running?01:15
ScottAATI Radeon something, I think. It might also be integrated. When I do the Xserver Xorg reconfigure Autodetect it says I have ATI, but I could also have an intel integrated chip. not sure which.01:17
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ScottA?01:25
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nicolaI've got a strange problem with packages and dependecies01:27
nicolahttp://pastebin.ca/raw/27095801:27
nicolaWhen I try to install kdesksd01:27
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nicolakdesdsk01:28
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eilkerhow can i have man pages in pdf file etc ?01:28
nicolaand If I follow each dependencies manually I get the same errore, just with kde thist package01:28
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Blue_Dragonhi guys01:34
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larson9999help me out here.  i have an app that needs jre 1.5.  i go to the sun site an i see jre 5.0.  what am i missing here?01:40
sungam!java01:40
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:40
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eilker!man01:41
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:41
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larson9999sungam: yeah i know how to install java.  i'm trying to fix my understanding of the numbering system for java.  does 1.5 = 5.0?01:41
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nicolaHi guys, what about this problem01:42
nicolahttp://pastebin.ca/raw/27095801:42
nicola?01:42
sungamlarson9999: sorry. I misread it :) No, I wouldn't think 1.5 is equivalent of 5.0.01:43
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judgen!fglrx01:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:43
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sungamlarson9999: I'd think 5.0 was a typo...But Java operates with two number systems I think. There's Java 1 and Java2, and then the different versions of those . I'd expect JRE5.0 to be the 5th RE for Java2, and Java 1.5 to just require some version of Java1.5, not JRE1.5 for Java2, fi you get my drift :)01:45
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larson9999sungam: yeah, i knew there were two numbing systems but it's confusing as heck to me.01:47
sungamlarson9999: at least it's not as bad as gstreamer where 0.10 is newer than 0.8 :)01:48
sungamlarson9999: and 0.10 requires 0.8 to be installed01:48
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larson9999sungam: found this post:   Version 1.5.0 or 5.0?     |   Open in a new window01:48
larson9999Version 1.5.0 or 5.0? Both version numbers "1.5.0" and "5.0" are used to identify this release of the Java 2 Platform Standard Edition. Version "5.0" is the product version, while "1.5.0" is the developer version. ...01:48
nicolahey kubuntu guys I've got this problem01:49
nicolahttp://pastebin.ca/27100701:49
nicola(last link didn't work)01:49
sungamlarson9999: actually.. that's better :)01:49
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larson9999so they are the same!  :)  only in java does 1.5 = 5.001:50
larson9999well for what i need01:50
sungamhehe01:50
sungamnicola: try doing an apt-get update01:50
nicolaok01:51
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davidsonhi01:54
sungamhi01:54
davidsony0 all01:55
davidsonopenvpn docs* ?01:55
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nicolasungam,  this is the output02:01
nicolahttp://pastebin.ca/27103302:01
nicolait gave some error on a non-important repo02:01
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judgenhi02:02
judgen!dri02:02
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.02:02
judgenwhy does dri not load for me =(02:02
CVirusare those new KDE updates real or its a bug or sumthin' ?02:03
sungamnicola: I'm not surprised you have a broken package with that many "random" repositories ;)02:03
sungamnicola: did the apt-get update help with the broken package?02:03
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judgenOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1) CRAP!02:03
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nicolasungam,  no, it didn't help02:04
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nicolaI'll work to get a normal sources.list02:04
sungamnicola: try that, if that doesn't work, I'm not sure what you can do. I'd think that broken packages were a server side issue, though I 'm not sure02:06
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fred__I am having some problems with the adept package manager02:10
fred__it doesn't open at all02:10
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nicolasungam,  I edited my sources.list and wrote just the important repo02:11
nicolait gives me the SAME error02:11
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fred__anyone?02:12
sungam!patience | fred__02:12
ubotufred__: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:12
sungamnicola: not sure what do say... I'm not sure if it should be reported as a bug or not, I mean if it' a server thing or not :)02:13
Schuenemannhow to update a program using apt-get?02:14
Schuenemanna package, I mean02:14
Schuenemannupdate takes no arguments02:14
sungamfred__: do this: 'sudo killall adept_manager; sudo rm /var/lib/lock; sudo dpkg --reconfigure'02:14
fred__a;right02:14
sungamfred__: do this: 'sudo killall adept_manager; sudo rm /var/lib/lock; sudo dpkg --configure -a' I mean02:14
sungamSchuenemann: update is to update your listings... do a 'man apt-get'02:15
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nicolathanks sungam, I hope it's a server bug02:15
sungamnicola: you could always try an apt-get -f check02:16
ricaneliteAnyone here use Apollon File Sharing?02:16
fred__sungam: it worked02:16
fred__thanks02:16
Schuenemannsungam: so is it 'install' ?02:16
ricaneliteHow is everyone likeing the new Edgy Ubuntu?02:16
fred__it's good02:17
sungamfred__: no problem. Adept locks access to the apt-get database by creating a lock file, if it crashes (or doesn't exit normally) it doesn't remove it and it crashed02:17
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sungamSchuenemann: that or apt-get upgrade to check yoru entire system:)02:17
kerwonzsomebody know software to build a dvd video?02:17
Schuenemannthank you02:17
sungamyw02:17
sungamfred__: sry, that didnt' make sense :) if it crashes it doesnt' remove the file and it can't open again, was what I meant :)02:18
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Matthewyay, I installed edgy, and am updating it now...hallelujah02:18
Schuenemannis firefox 2 available through apt-get? "firefox" only is still 1.502:19
fred__sungam: alright02:19
fred__sungam: I'm completely new to Kubuntu, and I'm just getting used to it02:20
nicolasungam,  it didn't work...a friend of mine just tried to install the same package I have (kdesdk) and it worked...02:20
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sungamnicola: hmm...  try a apt-get upgrade? In case your package dependso n the wrong version?02:22
dmarkeyhi, can anyone explain why i cant get bash export to work02:22
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nicolaI tryed even the apt-get upgrade02:26
sungamnicola: sorry, then I don't know if I can help you. :)02:27
nicolathanks anyway02:28
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VladdyI'm in baattery mode, now it tries to spin down the disk every 10 sseconds02:34
Vladdythen it does something to disk so it has to power up again02:35
Vladdyhow do i prevent spindown?02:35
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Vladdyit's annoying02:35
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beauis/are the adept servers down?02:38
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Admiral_Chicagofor this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35863/ source list, i get this eror "E: Type '01.' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"02:39
beaui cant open them02:39
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beauthe APT database could not be opened02:41
beau:-(02:41
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digitalfreedomso no adept?02:42
sungamdigitalfreedom: try running: 'sudo killall adept_manager; rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock; dpkg --configure -a'02:43
Jucato!adept crash fix02:43
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'02:43
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morticiomg i almost had EvE working02:45
morticiit loaded fullscreen and everything02:46
morticibut when i selected my char, it crashed :(02:46
digitalfreedomno go guys02:46
ranceI need to ask a strange question, from where does kubuntu get its instructions about which modules to install a boot, I want to cancel the loading of some modules, but cant find where they are being loaded from02:46
morticiin the kernel?02:46
rancelike sound card modules, and other type stuff02:47
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jack___...02:47
sungamJucato: at what point is the lock file removed? When the adept process terminates (from the 'sudo fuser' call) or does 'dpkg --configure -a' fixit?02:47
morticirance, you would disable those in the kernel?02:47
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Jucatosungam: from the dpkg command, afaik.02:47
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Jucatosungam: actually, I run that command without running the fuser command,and it works02:48
sungamJucato: alright. Thanks, the ubotu way is a lot cleaner than my way ;)02:48
sungamJucato: oh :o02:48
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ranceok, how, Im not ready to recomplile the kernel yet, im just trying to get some kernel modules to not autoload at startup, there has to be a config file somewhere that tells the system which modules to load02:48
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Jucatosungam: of course the bot's (and my) way already presumes that there is no running instance of apt, dpkg, or adept :)02:48
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Admiral_Chicagorance: /etc/modules iirc02:49
sungamJucato: bot's way doesn't assume that, as the -k in fuser will kill :)02:49
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: any idea about my problem?02:49
Jucatoah yeah, I'm the only one who presumes. )02:49
ranceAdmiral: thanks but I already checked there, and all thats listed is my lp module02:49
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: let me check02:49
Matthewwow, I just had my processor maxed at 100 and was watching my 2 gig swap fill up extremely quickly...I managed to stop the process that was doing it...it was call gd 1.7, I think. Anyone know anything?02:50
morticirance, disable the module in the kernel02:50
morticicd /usr/src/linux02:50
morticisudo make menuconfig02:50
morticiand disable the module02:50
ranceok02:50
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rancestill seems odd to me that modules would autoload, never seen that before02:51
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sungamranw02:51
sungam* rance: why would you want to disable them?02:51
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: you don't happen to have a line that starts with "01." in your sources.list, do you?02:51
morticirance, sounds normal to me, im not sure how kubuntu handles moudle autoloading, but if its made in the kernel its put in the db therefore it will load it02:52
sungamrance: unless you know what you're doing it's very easy to break stuff, and the ubuntu scripts are very good at dtecting the proper hardware configuration :)02:52
sungamMatthew: sounds like a memory leak02:52
crimsunmodule autoloading is identical to every other distro in existence.02:52
crimsuni.e., it's not a distro thing.02:52
ranceok, I have a sound card problem, and finally figured out that it was related to the modules that were being loaded02:52
morticiim pretty sure there is a file you can edit to stop it from autoloading02:52
ranceI unloaded them by hand, and got sound back02:52
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: let me check02:53
rancebut it didnt survive a rebook02:53
rancereboot02:53
morticiyeah just disable them in the kernel02:53
crimsunmortici: various blacklists, yes02:53
morticirebuild the kernel02:53
morticiand voila it should work02:53
Matthewsungam, ok...but what I was really asking was "What is that program/process for?"02:53
morticiat least thats how i used to do it in Gentoo02:53
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mortici:)02:53
crimsunrance: lspci -nv ?02:53
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no, i rechecked the source list02:54
sungamMatthew: realised... tried to do a man, a 'gd --help' and a locate, but didn't turn out anything...02:54
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: sudo apt-get update again?02:54
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: working on it02:54
Matthewsungam, ok, thanks for trying...02:55
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Matthewsungam, I'm not even sure that gd is the name of the leaky process...02:55
jack___how do I get the list of all hardware on my system? I'm too stupid to be able to find it...02:55
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sungamMatthew: google says something about a graphics library... and it could possibly be associated with gdesklets?02:56
sungamMatthew: just guessing, though :)02:56
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: same thing02:56
Admiral_Chicagois there a way i can purge apt and fix it?02:57
Jucatothat's weird....02:57
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Matthewsungam, I'm using a couple of superkaramba widgets...02:57
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Admiral_Chicagoi ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt"02:58
Admiral_Chicagomaybe that will help02:58
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sungamAdmiral_Chicago: I have a vanilla sources.list lying around if you want, admiral02:58
rancecrimsun: sorry it took so long, but the output you wanted is at http://www.pastebin.us/964102:58
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rancesorry paste.ubuntu-nl doesnt seem to be available02:59
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seishinbyouI've been messing around trying to get some of my multimedia and "other" keys working though scans by xev and dmesg, but some keys are just not detected at all.  Any suggestions?02:59
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Admiral_Chicagono same eror02:59
JucatoI really have no idea what could be wrong...03:00
Admiral_Chicagosungam: sure paste it in the link03:00
Admiral_Chicagohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/03:00
sungamAdmiral_Chicago: will do03:00
Admiral_Chicagothanks03:00
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sungamhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/DfuKck53.html03:01
crimsunrance: which driver is the correct one?03:02
rancecrimsun: according to knoppix the correct driver is via82cxxx_audio03:02
Admiral_Chicagosungam: i'm thinking the problem will be with apt not the sources.list but i'll try it out03:03
sungamAdmiral_Chicago: probably right, but worth a shot :)03:03
crimsunrance: which means snd-via82xx is to be used, which is confirmed by your lspci -nv output03:03
crimsunrance: have you modified your alsa files yet? If not, don't. Reboot.03:03
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rancecrimsun: I rmmod ed all the snd* modules and modprobed via82cxxx_audio and had sound03:04
sungamis there anything similar to nopaste in the ubuntu repositories? only thing I could find was webboard, but that was a gui thing.03:04
crimsunrance: yes, which doesn't solve anything.03:04
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ranceok03:04
rancewhat to do03:04
crimsunrance: since all you've done is used oss/free instead of alsa03:04
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crimsunrance: 21:03 < crimsun> rance: have you modified your alsa files yet? If not, don't. Reboot.03:05
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ranceok, I'll reboot, and be back later03:06
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vieirahi ppl03:08
DFMhi03:08
vieirahow can i execute a shell script from the kron tab?03:08
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ranceok, I'm back03:09
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: can I PM you03:10
vieiraany ideias ppl?03:10
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: yep03:10
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vieiraneed to set a cron that is a shell script, what should i do?03:13
vieiraanyone!?03:13
Schuenemannanybody here installed firefox2 in kubuntu?03:13
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bipolarSchuenemann: you mean, like 'apt-get install firefox'?03:14
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Schuenemannyeah, but that's 1.503:14
weswh-trying out kubuntu for the first time. 2 weird things off the bat. 1, my keyboard (and mouse i presume) aren't recognized at the initial kubuntu boot splash off of the cd. they are plugged in USB to an ASUS A7N8X motherboard (nforce2 chipset) - keyboard works in the bios but dies once the cd boots. so after it times out the 30 seconds and goes to start or install kubuntu, i get Loading isolinux: disk error 32, ax = 4200, drive 9f, and a ms03:14
weswh-i did not see an md5 checksum or anything offered on the site.03:15
Schuenemannthere is the md5 there03:15
bipolarSchuenemann: you must be using dapper. edgy has 2.003:15
vieiraDoes someone now how to work with crontab?03:15
Schuenemannbipolar: how to I get it on dapper? without the pain of that zip file they offer03:15
rancecrimsun: would you mind if I message you?>03:15
bipolarSchuenemann: see if someone did a backport.03:16
bipolarSchuenemann: start with a google search for firefox 2.0 dapper or some such03:16
sungamweswh-: for Kubuntu to detect my keyboard and mouse I had to chose 'enable usb peripherals' or something similar in my bios03:16
Schuenemannok03:16
sungamweswh-: but I had the smae issues with windows ;)03:16
crimsunrance: don't unless it's security-sensitive.03:16
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weswh-Schuenemann: is that on the download page? or tucked away somewhere? i can't find it03:17
ranceno, its just easier for me to follow you03:17
weswh-sungam - ok, i'll take a look. they were working in windows a few minutes ago.03:17
Schuenemannweswh-: I'll see03:17
Schuenemannbipolar: is edgy final?03:18
bipolarSchuenemann: yep, has been for a couple of months03:19
SchuenemannI'll try it03:19
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Schuenemannweswh-: http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/03:20
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ranceok crimsun, I rebooted, checked my modules are loaded are what they "usually" are and I'm back to no sound.03:23
weswh-thanks man03:25
weswh-as soon as the file calculated i knew it was wrong - turns out it's only 200 megs03:25
weswh-firefox claims it finished...not sure what happened there03:25
weswh-suprised it booted at all03:26
crimsunrance: excellent.03:26
crimsunrance: please pastebin your ``amixer''03:26
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ranceok, this is part of the problem I think, the channels amixer finds arent really there03:27
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poissonhi03:27
poissonanyone can help me?03:28
Skrot!ask03:28
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:28
Shaunlol03:29
Shaunalways annoying that03:29
poisson=)03:29
Shaunwould you mind if i ask a question??03:29
Shaun;)03:29
Skrotyeah03:29
Skrotjust ask =)03:29
poissonI need to know how to install focedeth driver03:29
poissonhttp://www.hailfinger.org/carldani/linux/patches/forcedeth/03:29
Shaunyou've asked a question, by asking if you can ask :D03:29
poissondo i have to compile it or what?03:29
poissonright, just courtesy ;)03:30
Shauni didnt have to install forcedeth myself03:30
rancecrimsun: here is the amixer output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35868/03:30
Shaunthe ubuntu installer detected my nf4 nic and did it all for me, so nice03:30
SkrotWhats the name of the module?03:30
poissondorcedeth03:30
Shaunall i had to install was fglx, was so impressed03:30
poissonsorry, forcedeth03:30
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Shauni had them all nice03:31
poissonI hava ubuntu to, it recognize it, but dont work03:31
Skrotpoisson: You might try "sudo modprobe forcedeth"03:31
Skrotah, nevermind then03:31
poissoni think i hace to install it first, or compile it.. (sorry about my english =P)03:32
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crimsunrance: ok, time to adjust some mixer values03:36
rancefire ahead03:36
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crimsunrance: amixer set 'IEC958' off && amixer set 'IEC958 Output' off03:37
maryenello03:37
poisson=(03:37
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rancecrimsun:done03:37
maryenwhats the flag to make glxgears display fps?03:37
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Skrotpoisson: How do you figure that it doesn't work?03:38
crimsunrance: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav03:38
Jucatomaryen: glxgears -printfps03:38
maryenthanks jucato03:38
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rancecrimsun: nope, no sound yet03:39
maryenwow, its going so fast, it looks like its going slow03:39
crimsunexcellent03:39
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jack___.03:39
dc905HI EVERYONE03:39
crimsunrance: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 003:39
maryenhi03:39
dc905my 1st day on kubuntu.. sorry about the caps.. lol\03:39
poissonSkrot:  Because it doesnt ^^. I have another to ethernets and they work perfectly but nvidia didnt03:39
rancecrimsun: done03:40
jack___ubuntu can see my wireless card and using lshw it looks like it has the correct driver for my chipset03:40
crimsunrance: and?03:40
Skrotpoisson: Is there more than one network adapter in the machine you're talking about?03:40
rancenope, still no sound03:40
bLaZeD!dd03:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
bLaZeD!iso03:40
jack___but turning on the device in the wireless settings doesn't work, it just stays disabled03:40
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" - bin/cue can be converted to ISO using !bchunk - ISO images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning03:40
poissonSkrot: yes. I have two more network adapters, and they work perfectly03:41
dc905guys, whats the main efnet server?03:41
jack___!wireless03:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:41
Skrotpoisson: Does "lsmod | grep forcedeth" return anything?03:41
crimsunrance: amixer set 'External Amplifier' on && amixer set 'High Pass Filter Enable' off03:41
dc905!efnet03:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about efnet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:42
Skrotirc.efnet.org i guess03:42
Skrothttp://www.efnet.org/?module=servers03:42
rancecrimsun: still no03:42
poissonSkrot: forcedeth              32268  003:42
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poissonSkrot I already have it, right?03:42
Skrotpoisson: yes, it's loaded03:42
dc905thanks skrot!03:43
poissonskrot: lol, =P03:43
crimsunrance: good. amixer set 'Surround' 80%,80%03:43
Skrotpoisson: How many eth* does "ifconfig" return? You might do "ifconfig | grep eth | wc -l"03:43
dc905do you guys use "konversation" for irc ?03:44
SkrotI do03:44
dc905it looks decent03:44
crimsunI use irssi.03:44
jack___anyone that can help with wireless not working?03:44
dc905i like that channel "Tabbing" on the left03:44
Skrotkonversation is good if you like gui and the kde look'n'feel03:44
rancecrimsun: done, still no sound03:44
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jack___(i know this is totally passe to have problems with)03:44
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crimsunrance: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 103:45
jack___i already checked to see if it has the correct drivers (which it looks like it does)03:46
jack___but activating it simply doesn't work03:46
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rancecrimsun: done, not yet03:46
crimsunrance: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 203:46
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rancecrimsun: done, still no03:47
crimsunrance: amixer set 'Surround Jack Mode' 'Shared'03:47
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sungamwhich package is smbmount part of?03:48
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crimsunuse http://packages.ubuntu.com03:48
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rancecrimsun: done, nope03:48
Kiongku!stellarium03:49
crimsunrance: now set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' to 0, 1, and 303:49
ubotustellarium: real-time photo-realistic sky generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-1 (edgy), package size 1749 kB, installed size 3380 kB03:49
lamushi03:49
lamusno?03:50
lamusok03:50
poissonSkrot:03:50
poissonh | wc -l03:50
poisson303:50
rancecrimsun: done, each value in turn, no sound after each value03:50
sungamcrimsun: there's no package called smbmount, but I'm sure it's out there in another package... packages.ubuntu.com returns nothing :)03:50
Skrotpoisson: Okay.Do you know which eth*-device is the nvidia one?03:51
poissonSkrot: Yes eht003:51
crimsunsungam: I'm pretty sure you didn't search correctly.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=smbmount&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i38603:51
Skrotpoisson: So "sudo dhclietn eth0" when eth0 is plugged to a network with a DHCP server does not work?03:51
rancesungam: either smbclient or samba-common03:52
rancenot sure which03:52
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sungamcrimsun: interesting.... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=smbmount&searchon=sourcenames&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all03:52
krmalikhi ppl........can i ask one question?03:52
jack___any help with wireless after i've gone through the wifidocs/wireless trouble shooting guide from start to finish03:53
jack___?03:53
sungamcrimsun: same for both package naems and package descriptions :)03:53
crimsunrance: amixer set 'Master' 80%,80% && amixer set 'Master Mono' 80%03:53
sungamrance: tahnks :)03:53
krmaliki cant access my ntfs partitions with my secondary account03:53
krmalikfolder which shud have ntfs partitions are empty when im usin second account which i created03:54
poissonSkrot: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.  I think that i have to specify to eth0 to use forcedeath as driver03:54
crimsunsungam: right, like I figured, you weren't using the correct search03:54
krmalikwhile with first account its workin after i rebooted the system03:54
krmalikany idea..............?03:54
rancecrimsun: done, not yet03:54
sungamcrimsun: sorry... didn't see the scroll.03:54
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Skrotpoisson: You should have eth0, eth1, eth2, and one of them is the nvidia ethernet card, assuming that is eth0, "dhclient eth0" should try to renew the IP via DHCP on the nvidia card03:55
rancecrimsun: I knew this was strange, thanks for taking the time to help me out03:55
crimsunrance: amixer set 'Master Surround' 80%,80%03:55
seishinbyoujack___: what model wireless and do you know the ESSID/WEP key for where you want to connect?03:55
jack___there's no WEP key03:55
rancedone, nope03:56
Skrotpoisson: Try "dmesg | grep forcedeth" and see if there is anything suspicious :)03:56
jack___the problem is the device won't even become active03:56
seishinbyouiwconfig tells you nothing is there?03:56
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poissonSkrot: [17179585.860000]  eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01565:2501 bound to 0000:00:14.0.03:56
crimsunrance: amixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' off03:56
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Skrotpoisson: Doesn't seem wrong03:57
rancecrimsun: done, still no03:57
jack___seishinbyou : iwconfig shows me it exactly03:57
jack___"broadcom 4306" chipset03:57
poissonSkrot: using HIGHDMA... But nothing wrong...03:57
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Skrotpoisson: weird.. sure the TP is working etc?03:58
seishinbyousudo dhclient eth1 (or wherever your wireless is) is stuck?03:58
poissonSkrot: Yeah. Im gonna try with ndiswrapper03:59
jack___ok, leme try03:59
crimsunrance: amixer set 'Channel Mode' '6ch' && amixer set 'Downmix' '6 -> 2'03:59
crimsunrance: if that doesn't work, you'll need to reset 'Surround Jack Mode'03:59
seishinbyouIf you know essid of the AP to which you are trying to connect, you can put the line : sudo iwconfig eth1 essid (type id here)04:00
seishinbyoubefore the dhclient line04:00
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seishinbyouI have a small batch file I use at work to connect to the company wireless04:00
seishinbyousets the essid, wep key, and calls dhclient04:01
rancecrimsun: its giving me a constant hum04:01
crimsunrance: what is?04:01
jack___after entering sudo dhclient eth1 it keeps sending packets and telling me the network is down04:01
rancecrimsun: my speakers after that last command04:01
intelikeytrying to setup 'brother mfc-3360c' it's not in the list, mfc starts at 7150c     any idea what to try ?04:01
crimsunrance: no, I'm referring to -which- command04:02
jack___seishinbyou : under the networksettings menu i see the two network devices, (one built in) and the wireless card in eth104:03
jack___but eth1 is show as a Disable wireless device04:03
jack___clicking "enable" just causes it to flip back to disabled04:03
seishinbyouDisabled... Is this wireless builtin (requires a button press to activate) or is it a USB wireless ( or PCMCIA, etc.)04:04
intelikeyare they the same drivers in  cupsys-driver-gimpprint  and  cupsys-driver-gutenprint ?04:04
jack___it's PCI04:04
rancecrimsun: its the channel mode to 6ch that causes the hum, when I set it back to '2ch' the hum goes away04:05
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seishinbyouwhat does iwconfig tell you about eth1 (pastebin it)04:05
crimsunrance: is that with surround mode set to shared or independent?04:05
jack___pastebin? (can you give me what i need to type in to the terminal exactly, i'm also new to linux)04:06
sistemasgood night04:06
seishinbyou!pastebin > jack___04:06
sistemasI have problems with edgy eft04:06
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jack___oh duh04:06
jack___!pastbin04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
jack___!pastebin04:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:06
sistemasi don't have sound04:06
weswh-what do i use if i want to examine my hard disks (i am in the livecd right now)...just trying to find the file browser04:06
seishinbyouI'll put up what my iwconfig reports (Intel Wireless Pro) as a comparison04:07
jack___Well i'm on a mac laptop typing this right now04:07
intelikeycrimsun any good with printer driver questions ?04:07
jack___i can't get internet up to the ubuntu box04:07
seishinbyoujack___: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35871/04:07
rancecrimsun: surround jack mode is shared04:07
Jucatooooh seishinbyou... long time :)04:08
intelikeyJucato what about you ?04:08
seishinbyouJucato: Hello.  Yes, work has me busy04:08
Jucatointelikey: not good with printers. it just worked for me...04:08
crimsunrance: and what about independent?04:08
seishinbyouData center this, postgresql that, redhat this...04:08
Jucatooh04:08
intelikeyJucato k  ty04:08
jack___seishinbyou , the stuff i see from iwconfig for my eth1 shares some lines with yours04:09
intelikey!printing04:09
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:09
seishinbyoujack___: Here is the script I use to connect http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35872/04:09
rancecrimsun, with independent the channel mode = 6ch does not hum04:10
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crimsunrance: looking for audible output, though04:10
seishinbyouWhen I did a dhclient right now without specifying an essid.  It ended up in an endless loop04:10
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jack___seishinbyou , those seem like things to get me on to a network that it should be able to see, if the device isn't even possible to  enable is this correct?04:11
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jack___my network is open for anyone with a wificard, no wep or password04:11
intelikeyoh... this krazy piece of ****   if you start konqueror as root it starts in /root and calls that root's home no matter where root lives.....    grrrr !04:11
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ranceI still dont hear anything when I play a .wav and the only audible output Ive heard since you and I started working on this was the constant hum with channel mode = 6 and surround mode = shared04:12
weswh-where can i go off of the livecd to see which drives are mounted? and look at their contents04:12
weswh-i can get to my home folder...which i presume is in ram or something?04:12
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weswh-it doesn't appear that either drive is mounted04:13
seishinbyoujack___: Well, even if you don't have any wep key set, the AP has its' own essid.  The Wireless Assistant manager should be able to tell you the essid04:13
seishinbyouor iwlist eth1 scanning04:13
jack___the wireless assistant shows no networks04:14
ranceweswh: go to a terminal and sudo mount /dev/whatever04:14
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jack___how is it going to see anything if the only wifi card on there is disabled?04:14
max_how do you format a floppy in Kubuntu?04:14
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ranceweswh: go to a terminal and sudo mount /dev/whatever /path/to/whereever04:15
rancesorry04:15
crimsunrance: are you sure your dxs elements don't need to be set higher? (say, 95%)04:16
jack___seishinbyou forgot you add your name last time i said something, did you see what i wrote? (just checking)04:17
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rancecrimsun: honestly, I have no idea, Ive never had dxs elements till kubuntu said I did. Ive never had such a complicated amixer setup on any other distro Ive ever had on this box04:18
rancecrimsun: well over half of the suff amixer wants settings for I don't really think I have04:19
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seishinbyoujack___: I saw it.  Hmm, I was hoping it would just turn on when you went to use it, but since that appears not to be the case, I'm going to have to do a bit of googling04:20
seishinbyouI had a wireless problem when I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, but a reboot fixed that oddly (Windows solution).  Does wireless work from the Live CD for you?04:21
jack___oh oops, sorry i iddn't mention i'm on the live cd04:21
jack___i wanted to check if wireless worked before i installed, i should have mentioned that04:21
seishinbyouAh, okay04:21
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jack___been using it all day and actually forgot,04:22
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jack___had a graphics problem too, so i'm in safe graphics mode04:22
weswh-i'm a little confused by the wording on the disk partition portion of the install. if i choose 'erase entire disk', it will clear it all, and automatically create partitions utilizing the entire disk right?04:22
beauwhere i should install realplayer to?04:22
weswh-it says it will create partitions 1 and 5...which makes me wonder if it is leaving something in between, or if it is just skipping for its own sake04:22
jack___i wanted to check wifi would work before figuring out graphics and both of those before actually installing04:22
seishinbyouOkay, I'll look that up.04:22
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beauits gonna make a swap partition weswh04:24
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weswh-beau: but why 1 and 5?04:25
weswh-not 1 and 2?04:25
kerwonzsomebody know how to install a internal webcam?04:26
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weswh-it's just making me nervous that it isn't going to wipe the entire disk first.04:26
weswh-but, i chose "erase entire disk" so i guess there is no need for concern04:26
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weswh-they could improve the wording in the 'ready to install' recap though.. it says the following paritions will be formated, 1 as ext3, 5 as swap. should say "entire disk will be erased" before that, just to confirm04:27
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Vladdyweswh-: stupid people shouldn't have windows :D04:28
Vladdynight hehe04:28
beauhaha  @ vladdy04:28
beautrue true04:28
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beau:-(04:29
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max_why will Kubuntu not boot from a Win 98 disk?04:29
max_i put it in and it wont boot to the CD04:29
beaunot boot from a 98 disc?04:29
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crimsunrance: I'll need to look at the registers for that, and I don't have time atm to do it04:30
rancemax_: is your bios not set to boot from the cd04:30
max_it is, it will boot to a KDE live CD04:30
rancecrimsun: thats fine, I appreciate you trying.  I guess I just don't understand why kubuntu thinks I have surround sound, when the card doesnt04:30
beaucheck the system servies in jubuntu04:30
beauK804:30
beauw/e you knw what i mean04:31
intelikeyok fyi. after some searching and propritary fumbling... brother printers are for the most part supported in linux but some are prietary(non-free) drivers  so the printer issue is solved here.04:31
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intelikeyone other quarry though.  how the snort do you remove a printer once you set up another ?04:31
rancecrimsun: if amixer would just report what is really there, then I could figure it out, but I sure don't understand all the extra stuff04:32
RoKFiTsup yall04:32
beauSSDD Rok04:32
RoKFiTSSDD?04:32
beaushame $hit diffrent day04:32
beausame*04:32
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RoKFiTHAH!04:33
RoKFiTgood one!04:33
beaurm04:33
beaudang it thought i was in the konsole04:33
beaulol04:33
rancenite all, its time for bed here04:34
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rancecrimsun: thanks again for the time04:34
beaui know rm removes stuff but what argument do i use to rmove the entire dir? rm -a?04:34
rancebeau: man rm04:34
Vladdyrecursive option ;p04:35
rancebeau: i think its -r to kill a directory04:35
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beau-r ok04:36
beauyessir that did it04:36
beauthanx maine HUGGLES!!!!!!!04:36
beaui had to ditch realplayer04:37
beaustupid thing nvr works for me04:37
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TheDebuggerRealplayer.. c'est mauvais de toute facon ;)04:37
globeWould anyone want to help me with ndiswrapper and a belkin usb wifi adapter? I have the driver installed and ndis says that it is loaded and the hdware present, but no ethernet connection04:37
weswh-ok, i have the system installed now - i still can't find where to look at my hard drive volumes. if i go to storage media, i see my optical and floppy drives04:38
weswh-and i can look at the root filesystem...but what if i want an overview of my hard disks, and access to them? i am lost :P04:39
beaugot /dev04:39
beaugo to /dev04:39
beauonr /mnt04:39
beauor04:39
beauor KDE control center /mount points04:39
weswh-interesting, nothing in /mnt04:39
beauwell04:40
beautry /dev/disc04:40
beauthen by name04:40
Schuenemannnothing in /media ?04:40
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weswh-not hard disks04:40
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weswh-the /dev does have the disks, hda and hdb - but broken up into hda1, 2, 3, 4, hdb1, 2, 3 etc.04:40
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beautry Kinfocenter04:41
weswh-dev/disk/by0id shows the same thing04:41
beaupartitions04:41
weswh-different parts to each disk04:42
weswh-and all but part5 of hda have lock icons on them04:42
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weswh-yeah, it looks like it isn't automounting or something. partitions in kinfo center are pretty bare. it has the / mount point as ext3, then the 2 cd roms drives, 1 floppy, swap is "none", and proc04:44
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weswh-how can i get a sudo file browser?04:45
Schuenemannkdesu ?04:46
Jucatokdesu konqueror04:46
beauuse the konsole04:47
pi1lcan I quickly and painlessly upgrade my 6.06 to 6.1004:47
beaui guess i dont know04:47
pi1l?04:47
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ThePubgood evening!  anyone know what changes when kubuntu-desktop is installed that would cause folders to be hidden from inside your chosen file manger in X?04:55
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abattoir!hidden04:56
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles04:56
abattoirThePub: ^^^^04:56
coreymon77why did they do that04:57
coreymon77isnt the point of linux that nothing is hidden04:57
abattoircoreymon77: i think the point was to make it a bit more 'user-friendly'04:57
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abattoircoreymon77: it has already been removed in feisty, and i think should be removed from edgy soon too04:57
ThePubabattoir: yeah, I just surprised myself and brought that up on the wiki.  you know how you pass over the insanely easy search of "hidden" sometimes? :D04:58
ThePubit's damn annoying anyway you look at it04:58
coreymon77ya04:58
coreymon77it really suprised me04:58
weswh-is there some option somewhere that will allow me full time access to my two hard drives entirely?04:58
coreymon77i go into konqueror04:58
coreymon77and all my stuff is hidden04:58
abattoirweswh-: try a live cd04:58
weswh-seems like most people would want the same level of access to their machine that they generally get with windows04:58
ThePubcoreymon77: here's the kicker.. if you have gnome too.. it removes the default view of gnome to what konq is then.04:58
weswh-abattoir - - i have (and now it's installed). i wasn't seeing them on the live cd either, but perhaps didn't know where to look04:59
coreymon77???04:59
abattoirweswh-: you mean you want to be able to unmount all your disks so you could, for example format them both at the same time?04:59
abattoirweswh-: oh, ok, you just want to mount them04:59
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weswh-i have two hard drives...i just want to be able to get to my files :)04:59
coreymon77if people want the same amount of acess to their system that they get in doze04:59
ThePubcoreymon77: I was just tinkering with kde, and even after uninstalling it my gnome desktop was doing the same thing.  which is what prompted me to look into it.04:59
coreymon77then let the sissys use doze04:59
coreymon77that do you mean by "the same thing"05:00
abattoirweswh-: type media:/ in konqueror if you are using dapper, you could even type /media if you are using edgy05:00
abattoirweswh-: see if your drives are shown there05:00
weswh-abattoir -- i have a 120 gig drive and a 40 gig drive. the 120 i installed with the 'erase entire disk' option., so i presume it should be pretty straightforward. at the moment all i can get to is my home dir basically.05:00
coreymon77ThePub: what do you mean by "the same thing"05:00
ThePubThat page though, now that I've read it, doesn't explain what actually causes this behaviour.  What process controlls the access?05:01
weswh-the /dev area shows the whole thing but the 40 gig is locked out05:01
coreymon77oh05:01
weswh-and only one section of the 120 gig is unlocked (both drives have like 5 'parts')05:01
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coreymon77you can have acess to your entire system05:01
abattoirThePub: the .hidden file in /05:01
coreymon77you just need to be root to do it05:01
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abattoirweswh-: how many partitions did you create in the 120gig drive?05:02
coreymon77anyways05:02
coreymon77i gtg to bed05:02
abattoirThePub: it lists all directories/files in a particular folder which must be hidden05:02
ThePubabattoir: I understand that, but it's just a link.... if removed the behaviour should be at least temporarily gone.  this page says it will return, so what causes it to return?05:02
coreymon77gnight everyone05:02
weswh-abattoir - the language of the install was a bit confusing, i chose "erase entire disk" so i am assuming that happened. it then created an ext3 and a swap (partitions 1 and 5). why 1 and 5, i don't know05:02
abattoirThePub: both Nautilius and Konqueror follow those guidelines05:02
weswh-made me think it was leaving something from before...but since i told it to erase, i decided that concern was unfounded05:03
coreymon77nautilus is the gnome file manager05:03
abattoirweswh-: i'm guessing 5 was logical05:03
coreymon77well05:03
coreymon77night all05:03
coreymon77see ya tomorrow05:03
ThePubabattoir: ok, so it's konq/naut reading the file.  needs to be on the page :)05:03
weswh-i have hda, hda1, hda2, and hda505:03
weswh-(in  /dev)05:03
abattoirThePub: it's there under "How do i restore Old behaviour"05:03
abattoirweswh-: what do you have listed in /media in konqueror?05:04
weswh-i have the same thing for hdb (not the boot drive, a disk that previously has xubuntu installed on it). so the partition layouts seem identical05:04
abattoirweswh-: or media:/ if you are in dapper05:04
coreymon77so ThePub , they "hidden file thing has been taken away in feisty?05:04
ThePubabattoir: well, no.. the reason it's happening isn't there.  it jsut says where the list of hidden files are.  not what is causing them to be hidden.05:04
weswh-abattoir: (edgy) and i have cdrom0, cdrom1, floppy0,05:04
weswh-(and a shortcut to floppy)05:04
weswh-let me get into sudo here and see if anything new pops up05:04
coreymon77and i guess "herd" is the name for release number05:05
coreymon77like burrow was for hoary05:05
weswh-in the long run though surely there is a way not to require sudo permissions to access the 40 gig in its entirety05:05
coreymon77and i dont know about dapper and edgy05:05
abattoirThePub: well, it's pretty obvious i'd say, but if you feel it should be more explicit, you are welcome to edit the wiki page :)05:05
coreymon77w/e05:06
coreymon77night all05:06
ThePubabattoir: it's pretty obvious a list of names to "hide" was generated.  what's not obvious is what causes that.  I'm not intimately familiar with the works of konq and nautilus personally ;)05:06
abattoirThePub: both of them, when they encounter a .hidden file, read it's contents, and then don't display the appropriate items05:07
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weswh-abattoir - i am in sudo now, click on "ata-st340016a", and it pops up an 'open with'...is it not mounted? does it not know it's a hard drive?05:09
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weswh-the icon (in /dev/disk/by-id) is a little stack of blocks05:09
weswh-but, that's what it is for all of the drives listed there05:09
weswh-i'm fairly confused :)05:10
weswh-konqueror seems a little strange compared with either nautilus or thunar...but i accept that i don't know anything about it yet05:10
ThePubweswh-: anything in /dev is a device05:11
abattoirabattoir: hmm, i still don't think you've told me if you see both your drives in /media05:11
weswh-i just want to get to my files so i can copy them to m system drive. i'd like to also see how much free space is in my system drive ext3 partition. you know, basics05:11
weswh-thepub - does it sound like i need to mount some things?05:11
weswh-or if they are in dev, they are mounted?05:11
weswh-nothing shows up in /mnt05:12
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abattoirabattoir: /media not /mnt05:12
abattoirugh05:12
abattoirweswh-: /media not /mnt05:12
abattoirbleh, i've been speaking to myself all this while05:12
weswh-media still just has the removable drives05:12
weswh-it's basically like the system sees the hard drives, but doesn't think they are importat to the process.05:13
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abattoirweswh-: ok, so your 40 gig drive is not benig seen05:13
abattoirweswh-: is your drive listed in /etc/fstab ?05:14
weswh-abattoir --- to some degree i'm not sure my 120 is either though i know i'm running on it. but, even with this sudo level, i don't seem to be able to access the root level of the drive05:14
abattoirweswh-: what do you mean by that, you see only /home and /media ?05:14
weswh-yeah - but in the drop down box, i do see other things05:15
weswh-ok, now we are getting somewhere...05:15
abattoirweswh-: ok, that's a 'feature'05:15
abattoir!hidden | weswh-05:15
ubotuweswh-: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles05:15
abattoirweswh-: you can ignore it for the moment, or you can read that wiki and fix it if you want to05:16
abattoirweswh-: basically, there is a feature where all folders/files in / is hidden in GUI file managers05:16
weswh-abattoir - thank you! ok, that explains why i am a bit confused05:16
abattoirother than home and media, of course05:16
weswh-and /etc/fstab makes no mention of hdb05:16
weswh-it has hda mounting / and swap (none)05:16
abattoirand cdrom?05:17
weswh-and then hdc, and hdd, and the floppy.05:17
weswh-yeah, both cdroms05:17
abattoiroh ok05:17
abattoiris your 40 gig drive formatted? which filesystem?05:17
weswh-hda has quite a name along with it too. (the UUID)05:17
abattoiryeah, that's normal05:17
weswh-it has an ext3 partition, and a swap partition. it's probably identical to the 120 actually (it has a xubuntu system on it, i just need to pull the data from my home dir)05:18
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ThePubit's some different mount system, dont' ask me ot remember what though :)05:18
abattoirweswh-: it's weird that the installer didn't recognise it05:18
weswh-abattoir - i had the option of installing to it05:18
weswh-but of course, that wasn't the plan05:18
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iniestasomeone could tell me how to install software in kubunto?????????????????????????05:18
weswh-so it does see it...just, doesn't want me to access it for whatever reason05:18
abattoirweswh-: oh, ok, i think you chose not to mount it there then05:18
abattoirweswh-: heh ok :P05:19
abattoiriniesta: what do you want to install?05:19
iniestaopera05:19
weswh-never specifically told it that unless there are some poorly worded places in the install :) is there any sort of tool to do this, or do i need to track down the UID and do it manually?05:19
abattoirweswh-: no, you can use /dev/sdb isntead of the UUID05:20
abattoir!opera05:20
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:20
abattoirweswh-: ^^^^05:20
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abattoirugh05:20
abattoiri'm losing it today05:20
maikeru!upgrade05:21
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:21
abattoir!opera | iniesta05:21
ubotuiniesta: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:21
iniestai have te file in rpm format05:21
weswh- /dev/sdb?05:21
abattoirweswh-: isn't that the device?05:21
iniestaand i can't run it05:21
iniestato install05:21
abattoiriniesta: no, you need the file in deb format05:21
weswh-iniesta - you'll have a much easier time using the package system05:21
weswh-abattoir -- well, hdb05:22
abattoiriniesta: follow that link, and install it05:22
abattoirweswh-: oh sorry, my mistake, make it hdb then :)05:22
iniestaok05:22
iniestatnks05:22
iniesta;)05:22
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weswh-should i use the same options that hda uses? for type, options, dump, pass?05:23
abattoirweswh-: mount pt. should obv. be different...05:23
abattoirweswh-: type depends on the filesystem05:23
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abattoirweswh-: you  can use defaults for options05:24
abattoirweswh-: and choose 2 for pass if you want it fsck'd on boot05:24
abattoirweswh-: else you can choose 005:24
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weswh-so if i just say hdb, and tell it ext3 - it will search the disk for the right partition?05:25
weswh-(since i guess the UID is specifying a particular partition?)05:26
abattoirweswh-: if you have multiple partitions, they'd be hdb1, hdb2 etc.05:27
weswh-ah, i gotcha.05:28
abattoirweswh-: if your disk has only one partition, then it could be hdb05:28
weswh-yeah, i do have that.05:28
abattoirif you have the latter, hdb should work then05:28
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weswh-nono, there are multiples. i have (in /dev) hdb, hdb1, hdb2, hdb505:29
weswh-i guess hdb1 is the ext3...05:29
abattoirok, then put that in fstab05:29
weswh-(that'd be consistent with how the live cd setup the 120 gig drive). is there a way i can examine the partition sizes through /dev?05:29
abattoirweswh-: none that i'm aware of05:30
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abattoirweswh-: you can ofcourse mount them with the 'mount' command and check them out05:31
weswh-hmm, it won't let me edit fstab. i am in the sudo konqueror05:31
abattoirweswh-: try 'kdesu kate /etc/fstab'05:31
weswh-it seemed like there was an editor integrated with konqueror...just lets you view?05:31
abattoiryes05:32
weswh-ah, too bad. they were really onto something05:32
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EntrophyHullo05:32
Entrophythis is amazing! --> http://knightsdivine.net/weapon.php?uid=y20w7505:32
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malik__how do i make kmix to appear in taskbar everytime i start computer ?..............anyhelp will be appreciated05:34
ThePubadd the sound applet?05:35
ThePubonly flirted with kde momentarily this afternoon though, don't quote me on that!  ^^05:36
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navhey im trying to get kubuntu to recognize some hardware, anyone in here have experience with that?05:36
weswh-i tried sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/files/ - and it says /media/files does not exist? that was kind of the point05:36
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dinosaur-rushi05:36
Dr_willisyou MUST have the mount point dir - made BEFOR mounting to it05:36
ThePubweswh-: mount actually incorporates the partition into the filesystem, so you ahve to have a "mount point" created beforehand.05:37
weswh-so go to /media and like, make a new directory?05:37
ThePubweswh-: so like Dr_willis said, just do a "mkdir /media/files" then try again.05:37
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ThePubdinosaur-rus: evening.05:38
Dr_willisLinux FUNdamentals05:38
Dr_willis:)05:38
garubenIs there anyone who could help me setup jackd and realtime in order to get midi to run on MusE? I'm new at this and have found a step by step instruction but obviously one of the steps doesn't work...05:38
dinosaur-rusis removing the execution permission enough to disable cron task?05:38
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Dr_willisdinosaur-rus,  it may generate an error that would then get logged.  make a test case and see what happens. :)05:38
soaaanyone knows how to get knetworkmanager working?05:39
weswh-so /media is where in the filesystem? swap? or is it going to mount new partitions "into" the existing / filesystem on hd?05:39
dinosaur-rusDr_willis: hehe, easy to say as cron doesn't seem to allow period less than one day :)05:40
malik__how do i make kmix(speaker icon) to appear in taskbar  automatically everytime i start computer ?..............any  help will be appreciated ?05:40
ThePubweswh-: /media is just a directory probably created on /, when you mount something that something is "added" into the over filesystem.05:40
weswh-but sweet - i can get to my data now :)05:40
ThePubweswh-: swap is not part of the filesystem05:40
weswh-pub - the "over" filesystem?05:40
dinosaur-rusmalik__: make kmix running every time? :)05:41
krups!burp05:41
weswh-hmm. just trying to wrap my head around the concept. it doesn't require space on the drive though does it?05:41
ThePubweswh-: yeah, meant "over the filesystem"05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about burp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
soaahmm, anyone?05:41
malik__yes how do i do that?05:41
ThePubweswh-: everything requires space, of course.05:41
krups!sexbabyitsaboutyouandme05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sexbabyitsaboutyouandme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
weswh-(like, mounting a 40 gig drive into a 120 gig drive...it's just a logical link? not like it is copying the drive contents over in real time or something05:42
krupsok, i've had my fun05:42
mathieu_but whats a mount point? a few bytes05:42
malik__yes how do i do that?.....................to .....dinosaur-rus05:42
mathieu_at most05:42
ThePubweswh-: the difference between the filesytem here and in windows is that the filesystem is just a layout of mount points that point to devices and not individual disks (windows)05:42
weswh-when i access the mount, it goes and looks at the actual physical drive that was mounted05:42
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weswh-i see05:42
soaa!knetworkmanager05:42
ThePubweswh-: yes, it does :)05:42
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB05:42
ThePubweswh-: the layout though is "virtual"05:42
soaa!networkmanager05:42
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager05:42
navI have a volume control bottom on the front of my laptop, ubuntu recognized it but when i changed to kubuntu it stopped working, is anyone in here experienced with recognizing hardware?05:42
weswh-but the main disk holds the filesystem layout05:43
ThePubweswh-: well, whatever is "/" usually has the overall look of the filesystem, but anything can be mounted below "/" and override that.05:43
ThePubweswh-: you can mount things wherever and override the defaults at any time though.05:44
weswh-ok, now it shows me a pretty hd icon and tells me that it is a mounted hd, and how much space there is in total and how much is avail - if i want to get the same info on my main disk (that is mounted as /) - how can i see that?05:44
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ThePubisn't there a "filesystem" or "computer" icon in the default kde desktop? probably a filesystem or "/" drive in there you could look at.05:46
ThePubI'm back in gnome atm :(05:46
mathieu_theres none05:46
mathieu_but if you hit F9 in konq you can access your media tab05:47
ThePuboh, my appologies then.05:47
mathieu_you should see your main HD05:47
malik__right click in the root folder n then properties ..........it will tell u how much space is used n how much free .......................to weswh05:47
weswh-my desktop is blank05:47
mathieu_although its not exactly "/"05:47
mathieu_so best solutions (imho) are: df -h05:47
weswh-my main drive does not show up in /media05:48
mathieu_or a superkaramba applet with the info05:48
ThePubopen an xterm and type "df", lol05:48
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weswh-oh, media tab..05:48
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ThePubmathieu_: lol, jynx? :)05:48
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mathieu_ThePub: uh?05:48
weswh-i just can't get any info on it05:48
ubuntui installed windows on my secondary partition...i have Kubuntu on my promary, trying to dual boot05:48
Dr_willisHmm.. winrar aint workign with wine any more... bummer.05:48
Dr_willis:)05:48
ubuntubut when i boot i onloy get windows05:48
dinosaur-rusmalik__: try to add a symlink to kmix in ~/.kde/Autostart05:49
weswh-maybe it's because i am in the 'hidden' mode that was mentioned about the new konqueror?05:49
ThePubmathieu_: nothing, just suggested "df" at about the same time was all.  "jynx".. nm05:49
ubuntuhwo do i boot up to Linux?05:49
Dr_willisYou installed WINDOWS after you installed Linux?05:49
ubuntuyes05:49
mathieu_ok. english is a 2nd language i never heard the expression05:49
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ThePububuntu: rerunning grub should be enough05:50
Dr_willisThat was your mistake. :P05:50
Dr_willis!grub05:50
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:50
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ubuntuthanks05:50
ThePububuntu: or look into booting linux from the windows bootloader (which is doable)05:50
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ThePububuntu: basically just boot off the ubuntu live cd and run grub with the configuration disk05:51
ThePububuntu: but don't boot into the live cd, use your working kernel and such on the hard disk.  then just run grub after booted up.05:51
mathieu_talking about grub i got a weir dproblem05:52
mathieu_grub load05:52
mathieu_but does nothing05:52
ThePububuntu: and you'll need to probably create a listing for your windows partition, assuming it wasn't there the first tim you listalled.05:52
mathieu_my configuration file is fine05:52
mathieu_i have to manually enter configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst to boot05:52
Dr_willischeck your device.map perhaps..05:53
ThePubboy can I not type accurately tonight eh? :)05:53
Dr_willisGrub is one of those things that it pays to read , read, read.. and play with. :)05:53
ThePuband it's forgiving to a fault, almost.05:53
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mathieu_never had any problems, only that now i got a SATA HD05:53
weswh-so i still can't get a report on the partition mounted as /. i can see the hidden files now...if i do properties on "root folder" it just comes back and says like 6k or something05:54
weswh-i need a nice My Computer pie chart ;)05:54
ThePubmathieu_: if it has happened since getting SATA, it's probably related not to Grub, but rather to how your computer addresses the SATA hardware.05:54
malik__u right click on the blank space inside the root folder n then properties05:54
ThePubmathieu_: external SATA controller for example :)05:54
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AnnirakI'm having a problem running an automatic ssh connection (for running backups).  I've generated a key-pair with no passphrase.  I put the contents of the public key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys.  When I try to ssh in, it asks me for the passphrase on the key (I've specified it explicitly with -i, so I know I have the right key) then when I hit enter, I get access denied.05:55
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mathieu_but i tell grub to boot (hd0,0), which it doesnt, but if i type configfile xxxx from the grub prompt it does so it sees my HW correctly no?05:55
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ThePubmathieu_: yes/no.  grub can access any available disk once it's in memory.  if your bios though doesn't properly pass control at startup to your SATA controller you can't automatically boott of it using the MBR.05:56
avalonHi Guyz05:56
mathieu_ah ok ok05:56
mathieu_so ill look in the BIOS05:56
weswh-does 105 gigs of usable space on a 120 gig drive (installed with the 'erase entire disk' option) sound about right? (i have 1.5 gigs of ram, so not sure how big they did the swap). sounds about right at any rate05:56
avaloncan anyone help me with real player bin file05:56
ThePubmathieu_: it's a matter of whether or not your bios can delegate MBR responsibilities to your SATA controller.05:57
avalonhow do I make it work?05:57
mathieu_i reboot only on electricity outage though so its not like its a big deal :)05:57
avalonin KUbuntu 6.0605:57
ThePubmathieu_: what you can do is use a MBR on one of your other IDE disks05:57
malik__sounds right to me if u have a big drive with only linux on it05:57
mathieu_ThePub: theres not other disks05:57
ThePubmathieu_: :(05:57
ThePubmathieu_: am I right though, did you install an external SATA controller?05:58
mathieu_no05:58
ThePubmathieu_: so it's integrated?05:58
mathieu_yea, some ASUS mobo05:58
slophow do i go back from flash 9 to flash 7?05:58
ThePubmathieu_: I have an Asus P4C800 which has an on-board, yet external, SATA controller.05:59
mathieu_errr im not sure then05:59
ThePub(great mobo btw!)05:59
ThePubmathieu_: if it's like mine, you have to use the SATA controller in IDE mode to use it as a boot controller.06:00
mathieu_ok06:00
mathieu_thats a BIOS option right?06:00
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ThePubmathieu_: well, actually.. on this mobo it's a plug thing.  there are SATA plugs for IDE and plugs for, uhm, striping06:01
mathieu_ok. so i think ill just continue typing the cmd in hand06:02
ThePubmathieu_: "raid", that's the word I was looking for :)  you can use it as a SATA raid or as a normal IDE setup with individual disks.  The disks will work normally plugged into the raid, but they won't boot iirc.06:02
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mathieu_it doubles as a boot protection from the roommates heh06:02
ThePubmathieu_: just setup a password to your linux partition in grub :)06:02
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ubuntu!grub06:04
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:04
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ThePububuntu: how's it going?06:05
ubuntuiono06:05
ubuntui did somthin wrong06:05
ThePubwhat's the default WM for kde?06:06
ThePububuntu: what happened?06:06
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ubuntunothing happened06:07
bermarHola06:07
ubuntuit booted to win06:07
malik__i cant figure out how to auto start kmix applet in the task bar..................any help for me?06:07
ubuntuThePub: this is so cinfusing06:08
Dr_willismalik__,if its started once.. you should/could save the session - and it should restart next time06:08
ubuntuThePub: this is so confusing06:08
mathieu_i know i aint done anything and kmix starts everytime...06:08
Dr_willisor ya could use the 'add to panel' mixer.. but its a bit more then just kmix's06:08
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ThePububuntu: I'm reading this page that you just brought up.  the "using the desktop/live cd ..." looks the most promising06:09
malik__how do i   save the session?...........to Dr_willis?06:09
ubuntui tried that06:09
ubuntuand i mussta did somthing wonrg06:09
weswh-so my system had the right time when i ran the install....but now it says 19:21, and i see nowhere in the clock prefs to tell it not to use 24 hour time06:09
ubuntuwonng*06:09
ubuntuwrong*06:09
weswh-damn developers and 24 hour clock06:09
ThePubweswh-: I don't think it exists06:10
Dr_williscontrol center thing -- > kde componants --> session management06:10
Dr_willisI guess.. I though it edefaulted to auto-saving sessions06:10
mathieu_weswh-: you mean damsn everywhere but usa/uk?06:10
mathieu_weswh-: you can change that in kcontrol, in regional settings06:10
mathieu_time format: pH:MM:SS instead of HH:MM:SS06:11
weswh-kcontrol? don't see that06:11
weswh-oh..ok06:11
mathieu_and YES, it should say "use 12 hour system" instead of that cryptic combo box!06:12
ThePubmathieu_: those kde guys need a sensible setup like gnome.. you choose "12 hour" or "24 hour" time, hehe06:12
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Dr_willisand i think the clock should Notice that you chaged the format and  actually change...06:12
Dr_willis:)06:12
seishinbyouweswh> It isn't just developers that use a 24 hour clock ;)06:12
mathieu_yea06:13
weswh-yeah i know.06:13
weswh-i just find that many of those do, in the US. them and the military06:13
ThePubyeah, once you're used to it, 24-hour time is actually very useful.06:13
ThePubespecially if you do much timezone flirting06:13
mathieu_it seems the redraw optimization wait until a minute changes before updating06:13
mathieu_Canada uses 24h06:13
malik__is there a multi clock utility for linux where one can setup different timezones to keep track of time of different cities of the world?06:14
ubuntuThePub: what do you think the easiest way to get the grub back would be?06:14
mathieu_malik__: the KDE clock can do that06:14
ThePubmalik__: I think there's a KDE applet06:14
mathieu_just check more timezones06:14
ThePububuntu: any of the suggestions on that page should work fine.06:14
mathieu_and you can scroll-wheel them06:14
ubuntuThePub: the whole dev and hda confuse me, its one of the things i was never able to understard06:15
weswh-will i likely notice a speed improvement from some little redraw/flicker issues i am noticing (not sure which driver is being used but i have a GeForceFX 5600 256mb) if i use the commercial nvidia driver?06:15
ubuntuThePub: and its annoying, cause i dont know how to use a floppy because of it06:15
malik__i ll be damned...................it really can do...............the clock in the taskbar area ..................it can show mutiple timezones06:16
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malik__very nice06:17
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jbruckmanmy ktorrent keps going between downloading and stalled, any ideas?06:17
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malik__must be a bad torrent06:17
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jbruckmannope. friend is getting same torrent--no problems. lots of seeds and peers06:17
jetcanyone know how to get vnc working kubuntu?06:17
ThePububuntu: oh, sorry.  well, it's actually very sensible once you DO understand it :)  floppy disks are fd0-n, zero being the first.  IDE disks are hd<letter><partition number>06:17
malik__if there aint enuf seeders then it does do that06:17
jbruckmani'm on a school network, and i'm trying to sneak out of port 8006:17
jetc*working in06:17
mathieu_jetc: server or client06:17
jetcserver06:17
ubuntui know that much, but i dont know how to partition a floppy06:18
jetcit's a pain to do it in kde it seems06:18
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mathieu_ive always set up tightvncserver in console...06:18
ThePububuntu: so with ide you have primary controllers (hda) and secondary controllers (hdb), tertairty (hdc), etc.  then each disks has a number of partitions, 0-n.06:18
jetcwell...how do i got about it?06:18
seishinbyouHmm, is it possible to distort the clock to run on a modified 24h system (i.e. when the business day ends at 25:00)?06:19
jbruckmananyone?06:19
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ThePububuntu: so the a, b, c, d (on a normal system) is the first number in (#, #), then the partition 1-n is the second number.06:19
mathieu_jetc: sudo apt-get install tightvncserver06:19
ThePububuntu: just subtract 1 from the second number06:19
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ubuntuThePub: i know06:19
jetcdo i need to uninstall vnc4server?06:20
ThePububuntu: oh.. ok.. so I suppose when you said you don't understand how it works, I didn't understand what you mean ;)06:20
jetcand xinetd?06:20
mathieu_but kde remote desktop uses port 5900 by default; i wonder if its actually vnc underneath?06:21
ThePububuntu: I'm not positive you can partition a floppy, per'se.  you can definitely just issue a "mkfs.<type> /dev/fd#" though06:21
weswh-for getting mp3s to play with amarok, follow the same instructions as for dapper i guess? (lib-xine)06:22
ThePububuntu: I will temper that by saying, I've just never tried to run parted on /dev/fd# myself.  I haven't used floppies in 15 years.06:22
weswh-from the multiverse06:22
jbruckmanweswh-: yeah, that's how i got mine to work on edgy06:22
ubuntuwell how can i do it without a floppy06:22
ThePubweswh-: yeah, same stuff.. they've updated the same pages.06:23
ubuntucause i would rather not use one06:23
weswh-what's Juk like?06:23
jbruckmanweswh-: but i had some problems with my sound card that were unrelated.06:23
weswh-amarok is good...there are some things about it i find a bit funny.06:23
jbruckmanweswh-: I don't like it, amarok is my player of choice.06:23
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weswh-jbruck - interesting...mine seems to be working. it's playing oggs anyways06:23
ThePubweswh-: I like the rythmbox interface better, but it doesn't appear to support any extended library information like Lyrics that Amarok supports :(06:23
jbruckmanweswh-: yeah, i have a TV tuner card installed, so my snd dev is card1, not card0. I had to change some settings.06:24
weswh-i might see about getting on the amarok team...even though i know almost all of their coders would surely run circles around me. it just needs a few extra featutres...it's almost there06:24
jbruckmanweswh-: gl w/ that06:24
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weswh-rhythmbox eh, i'll check it out. actually most of the additional features like that tend to annoy me a bit about amarok06:24
weswh-but more than anything, i have never been able to find the "repeat this one track in the playlist over and over" button06:25
jbruckmanweswh-: i didn't like rhythmbox so much--don't really have a reason though, sorry.06:25
jbruckmanweswh-: that's in the bottomw right06:25
weswh-is it? well, maybe i had an older version. it was 1.4.something...good to know06:25
jbruckmanweswh-: looks like a down arrow, clicking it changes the icon06:25
weswh-mmm..nice06:25
jbruckmanweswh-: then shuffle is right next to it06:26
jbruckmanweswh-: you can shuffle by song, artist or album i believe06:26
weswh-ktorrent ay good?06:26
weswh-ay/any06:26
ThePubweswh-: Azureus FTW :)06:26
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jbruckmanweswh-: supposedly, but i'm on a school network, and I'm routing it through port 80 with mildly interesting results06:26
weswh-that's what i've always used - BUT, in my xubuntu install....there was a strange memory leak somewhere06:26
ubuntuThePub: so where do i download a grub or bootloader?06:26
weswh-and many people pointed the finger at azureus06:26
jbruckmanweswh-: yeah... i don't like java.06:27
weswh-so i was thinking about trying something different06:27
jbruckmanweswh-: it's too slow fo rme.06:27
mathieu_ktorrent's "good enough"06:27
jbruckmanfor me**06:27
weswh-all things being equal i'd still use azureus06:27
mathieu_as in, it downloads torrents06:27
jbruckmanmathieu_: that's my feeling too06:27
seishinbyouutorrent through wine if you are feeling adventurous06:27
weswh-maybe one day the guys will port utorrent06:27
weswh-nah06:27
weswh-not that adventurous ;)06:27
ThePububuntu: that page hits the nail right on the head to get your system boot back on track.  it's just a matter of running grub from the installed system that's already there.06:27
jbruckmanweswh-: haha, gl06:27
ThePububuntu: you can do that from the live cd setup06:28
weswh-my next task is to get my Seagate external USB drive mounted (it's a macosx hfs partition) and get my data off of it06:28
seishinbyouIt's not hard to get utorrent working, actually06:28
jbruckmanweswh-: i have an external USB that just auto mounts when i plug it in06:28
ThePubAzureus filled my uTorrent itch tbh.  the one thing I dont like about ktorrent is the single window per torrent thing06:28
weswh-would firewire be just as easy? i always have this idea that firewire stuff is flakey06:28
jbruckmanseishinbyou: can you set it up to port through port 80, and get out of a school network that blocks such things?06:29
mathieu_weswh-: as easy here06:29
seishinbyoujbruckman: In theory, yes.  In practice, I haven't tried it since I am free to use other ports at home and work06:30
weswh-jbruckman - - isn't that great? i don't think i will be so lucky initially, since the partition is hfs06:30
mathieu_weswh-: have you tried plugging the disk, i dont know about hfs but my feeling is that it will "just work"06:30
mathieu_especially if you dont plan on writing on the disk06:30
weswh-haven't tried though i guess i'm feeling lucky. nah...i just want to get the stuff, then reformat it ext306:30
jbruckmanseishinbyou: cool. It works on KTorrent decently--which i've mentioned before, but I wan't something better.06:30
seishinbyoujbruckman: You could do an apt-get install wine, download the utorrent client and try it out :)06:30
jbruckmanseishinbyou: way ahead of you. haha06:31
seishinbyouThe Wine AppDB says it works fine.06:31
seishinbyouWhatever that is worth06:31
ThePubick, Wine :)06:31
seishinbyouIt's not all evil :)06:31
jbruckmanseishinbyou: haha, oh boy.06:31
mathieu_the torrent client i actually use most is screen+btdownloadcurses.py06:31
jbruckmanseishinbyou: that's worth absolutely nothing.06:31
seishinbyouI've used utorrent from wine myself anyways, but I'm not so official06:32
seishinbyouQuestion is, is AppDB more worthless than a random blog opinion?06:32
weswh-hmm, from the screenshots juk seems to be up my alley. gonna check it out for sure06:33
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kaihello all06:33
ThePubgood evening06:33
weswh-i am really happy to be back to kde. it's been a few years...i went to fluxbox/xfce road for a while...in the end it's like come on, the computers are fast as hell...give 'em a little work out and enjoy the goodness06:33
weswh-even this crazy konqueror fs thing is starting to seem pretty snappy ;)06:34
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jbruckmanYAY! I've gotten 10kb/s download speeds! Alright for breaking through the system.06:34
kaiwhere do i go, to get my joysticks 2 work?06:34
jbruckmanThe school is using a crappy windows server06:34
seishinbyouIt's all great, except for kmail + scim not liking each other sometimes06:35
jbruckmanonce everyone on campus goes to bed, thish should pick up a little06:35
EDinNYwhat is the latest stable ubuntu release?06:35
Dr_willisEdgy Eft.06:35
jbruckmani have a question about nvidia drivers06:35
EDinNYedgy is after dapper?06:36
Dr_willisthen theres  the earlier Dapper Drake LTS  (long term support)06:36
jbruckmani'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html06:36
ThePubweswh-: after playing with kde and gnome, I'm more of the belief gnome > kde for just daily use.  kde has some flashy features, but gnome really seems to bring things together better.06:36
jbruckmanand when i get to the command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable06:36
Dr_willisNext is Fainting Fawn06:36
Dr_willis:)06:36
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jbruckmanI get this:06:36
jbruckmanj06:36
jbruckmanbruckman@jbruckman-EDGY:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable06:36
jbruckmanError: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed06:36
jbruckmanthe nvidia driver for your running kernel.06:36
mathieu_Fesity is boringly stable so far... :P06:37
Dr_willisjbruckman,  perhaps you never installed the modules packages needed.06:37
ThePubmathieu_: not feisty enough for you, then?06:37
Dr_willislets see....06:37
Dr_willis!nvidia06:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:37
jbruckmanubotu: thanks06:37
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:38
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EDinNYis there a way to do an upgrade from dapper to edgy06:38
ubuntuThePub: i did exactly like it said, and when i restarted it went straight to windows06:38
weswh-theoub - maybe so, my current experiences with gnome are so-so (it's on a couple of the systems at work)06:38
weswh-suse 1006:38
jbruckmanDr_willis: thanks a lot06:38
weswh-i am hoping it's more about getting things set up right for your work flow because well....i just got this installed :)06:39
jbruckmanDr_willis: i'll give this a try and see what happens06:39
ThePubweswh-: gnome itself is pretty boring, it's just my opinion that how your primary interface should be though.  it's the applications that should be interesting!  ^^06:39
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Dr_willislinux-restricted-modules , nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common   seem to be what i have installed06:39
Dr_willisThat how too needs some updateing. :(06:39
jbruckmanDr_willis: does it? hmm. will it work?06:39
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mathieu_EDinNY: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list -- replace all "dapper" for "edgy" -- apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get dselect-upgrade;06:40
weswh-yeah, and i like that about xfce - but i was getting bored. really the biggest thing was i had a 512 ram machine...and it was always hovering around 400-450 used up. with not much running...(like i mentioned azureus was blamed by some)06:40
Dr_willisjbruckman,  the nvidia stuff works for me.. they made it even simpiler now.06:40
jbruckmanDr_willis: okay, thanks.06:40
weswh-so, my thought was when i got this new pc...go ahead and run kde, it can't be worse.06:40
mathieu_EDinNY: this is *not* the supported, official way :)06:40
ThePubweswh-: tbh, my biggest complain with kde is that the default setup under kubuntu doesn't appear to have a single place to apply one theme for windows, buttons, icons.06:40
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JucatoThePub: Alt+F2, kcontrol06:41
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Dr_willislinux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic nvidia-glx  nvidia-kernel-common    are the 3 packages i got installed it seems06:41
weswh-interesting. yeah, well the stuff all needs work of course. and as much as no one wants to hear it, all of the desktop environment systems could stand to learn a few things even from xp/vista06:41
mathieu_isnt what the "Theme Manager" is for, ThePub?06:41
weswh-when it comes to getting things integrated06:41
ThePubJucato: yes, yes.. but have you tried the gnome theme manager? :)06:41
Dr_willisThePub,  Huh..  you are overlooking it then.06:41
ubuntuThePub: i did exactly like it said, and when i restarted it went straight to windows06:41
RoKFiTwhere is the trash folder?06:41
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ThePubyou just drag your archived theme over it and it just works06:41
weswh-windows shell integration (3rd party and such) is way superior to anything i've seen in linux to date06:41
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mathieu_RoKFiT: trash:/06:42
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RoKFiTmathieu_: /trash?06:42
mathieu_RoKFiT: its also somewhere in the sidebar (F9)06:42
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ThePubI'll probalby look at it later though, doing some work atm and kde was kind've getting in the way.06:42
globewhat wireless cards are supported by ubuntu natively (no wrapper)?06:42
JucatoThePub: the technical details is too long to discuss here, but essentially, you are just theming what's already installed on GNOME. In KDE you are installing new widgets/styles.06:42
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mathieu_trash:/ in konq, that would be ~/.kde/trash i believe06:42
RoKFiTi can't find it06:42
RoKFiTah06:42
jbruckmanglobe: i have a linksys, and it worked after a fresh install06:42
intelikeyRoKFiT not /trash   trash:/06:43
jbruckmanglobe: I don't know where you'd find the full list though06:43
RoKFiTnot in .kde06:43
hihihihi06:43
JucatoRoKFiT: ~/.local/share06:43
Dr_willisI have a .Trash also06:44
RoKFiTthanks06:44
Dr_willis!/.Trash06:44
intelikeyif you type trash:/ in the address box of knoqueror  ???06:44
JucatoRoKFiT: or, actually, just type in "trash:/" in Konqueror06:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:44
Dr_willis~/.Trash06:44
mathieu_or alt+f2...06:44
RoKFiTbut trash:/ is really /home/user/.local/share/Trash06:44
mathieu_or add the trash applet to your kicker...06:44
RoKFiTno06:44
intelikeylast time i saw it it was ~/Desktop/.Trash   iirc06:44
RoKFiTsup intelikey06:45
ThePubJucato: yeah, I understand that, don't think I don't :)  It should just be "that easy" though.  ;)06:45
Dr_willisYa would think they could have at least a link from .local/share/Trash to ~/.Trash or somthing  :)06:45
ThePubJucato: this is my unhumble opinion though.06:45
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RoKFiTbrb i need some water06:45
RoKFiT!water06:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about water - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:45
mathieu_Its also weird that the trash folder cant be changed from the kcontrol / Path06:46
JucatoThePub: actually it's "that" easy, once you get over the fact that what you are basically dragging and dropping in GNOME are just color schemes and/or icon themes06:46
intelikeyit you drink and drive kde you may mix kpaint with someone and produce a gimp....06:46
weswh-if i unmount a drive - does it automatically go into more or less a hibernate mode?06:46
intelikeyweswh- no06:47
intelikeyweswh- if you are asking about power-down on the drive, no  that is apm/acpi controled          and power-management of course.06:48
weswh-i see06:48
weswh-in xubuntu the package management was called Synaptic (or something)...is it named differently in kubunut?06:49
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ThePubJucato: I really do understand that :)06:49
intelikeyweswh- adept06:49
intelikeyweswh- but you can install and use synaptic if you like it.06:49
JucatoThePub: but in the end, you are right and I agree with you. the theming mechanism in KDE isn't the simplest thing in the world06:50
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Dr_willis!apt06:50
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:50
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globewhat wireless cards are supported by ubuntu natively (no wrapper)?06:50
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EDinNYwhat is the difference between edgy and edgy eft?06:50
globeI mean...is there a spot on the ubuntu wiki where there is a list of natively supported cards...sorry wrong buttons06:51
Dr_willisEDinNY,  they are the same06:51
JucatoEDinNY: nothing06:51
mathieu_EDinNY: one is the full name :)06:51
intelikeyEDinNY one leg is both the same.06:51
EDinNYbut edgy goes in sources.list?06:51
mathieu_yes06:51
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intelikeyQ; what is the differance between a duck ?06:51
intelikeyA; one leg is both the same.06:52
Dr_willisQ: Why do Ducks have flat Feet....06:52
Jucatobetween a duck and ____?06:52
Dr_willisA: from stamping out forest fires...06:52
Dr_willisQ: why do Elephants have flat feet?06:52
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Dr_willisA: From stamping out Flameing Ducks.06:52
Dr_willis:)06:52
Jucatoheh06:52
Dr_willis'Jokes you can tell your 5 yr old"06:53
Dr_willis:)06:53
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abattoir#kubuntu-wildlife-jokes :P06:53
mathieu_i expected something unexpected :S06:53
intelikeyJucato those thing loose their beauty when we have to explain them.....06:53
abattoirunless they were domesticated ducks/elephants...06:53
mathieu_so that was unexpected, in a sense :)06:53
Jucatointelikey: ok.. I get it :P06:53
abattoirthen i guess you can stay here :P06:53
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Jucatoheh06:54
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intelikey:)06:54
Dr_willis'A Badger, a Drake and an Eft, walk into a bar......'06:54
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mat0bughola06:54
abattoirwhere is the poor fawn?06:54
mat0bugestoy muy aburrido06:54
Jucatowas just born06:54
Dr_willisabattoir,  She was too Fiesty. so they left her at home!06:54
Dr_willis:)06:54
mathieu_and the warthog?06:54
abattoir!es06:54
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:54
intelikeyBadger  wait   i thought it was a hedgehog .....06:54
Jucatodead06:55
mat0bugok06:55
mat0bugthanks06:55
abattoirno problem :)06:55
mathieu_(no problemo)06:55
mathieu_lol06:55
abattoirthat's only if he had said gracias ;)06:55
mathieu_ok but i was happy to use one of the 5 spanish words i know...06:56
abattoir:)06:56
intelikeyonly uno ?06:56
weswh-my system doesn't want to load add/remove programs for some reason.it does the hoppy icon for a while, then stops without warning or notice06:56
weswh-as if i never chose it06:56
abattoirweswh-: try 'kdesu adept_installer' in the command line06:57
abattoirweswh-: see what happens06:57
intelikeyweswh- hmmm    open a konsole and type in;    sudo echo working06:57
mathieu_is there a way to make vmware's cursor "interactive" ie. not having to click to capture mouse control?06:58
ThePubmathieu_: you know more than 5 surely :)  uno, deuce, trace, quattro, sincho(sp?), sece(sp?)06:58
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seishinbyoumathieu_: install/enable vmware tools06:58
weswh-it says 'working'06:58
mathieu_ThePub: actually I speak french so adding -o or -a surprinsingly does the trick 60% of the time06:58
intelikeyweswh- k  that's good.   now try the     kdesu adept_installer     in the same konsole06:59
weswh-abattoir - that opened it.06:59
ThePubmathieu_: hehe, pretty close!  I started French this year for fun06:59
mathieu_seishinbyou: you know the exact name?06:59
RoKFiTflash 9 x86_64, when will it be available to install as a working solution to flash player and firefox?06:59
weswh-anytime i do a kdesu command, i seem to be getting errors about an invalid or uninitialized input device, bad device...failed to open device07:00
abattoir!baddevice07:00
ubotuIf you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.007:00
abattoirweswh-: ^^^^07:00
weswh-major opcode 144, minor opcode 3, resource id 0x007:00
weswh-nice07:00
ThePubsounds like IDE resets07:00
RoKFiTdoes anyone know about flash 9 on x86_6407:00
seishinbyoumathieu_: From the VMWare workstation menu, there is a "Install VMWare Tools"  option.  Select it when the OS is running07:00
mathieu_i must say that bot impresses me07:00
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abattoirRoKFiT: firefox?07:01
mathieu_seishinbyou: oh i only have the player07:01
RoKFiTflash 907:01
seishinbyouOh07:01
RoKFiTthe plugin07:01
abattoirRoKFiT: yeah, for which browser?07:01
ThePubRoKFiT: negatory for me, sorry.07:01
RoKFiTfirefox 2 on x86_6407:01
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abattoirRoKFiT: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=117443507:01
seishinbyouStill, the "Install VMWare Tools" option only enables a fake CD image containing some source code.07:01
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seishinbyouI wonder if it is available for download from VMWare's page standalone07:02
abattoirRoKFiT: just read it fully, before you do anything07:02
weswh-abattoir - so is that error the reason that the add remove programs link won't work well?07:02
intelikeyabattoir isn't that a wacom error ?07:02
abattoirintelikey: yup07:02
RoKFiTabattoir: that method causes the browser to close randomly, sometime quite frequently07:02
abattoirweswh-: no, it's unrelated, harmless actually07:02
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abattoirRoKFiT: oh, don't know, it works fine here...(or worked fine till yesterday07:02
abattoir)07:02
mathieu_seems pretty standard flash 9 behavior to me :P07:03
RoKFiTare you on 64 bit?07:03
abattoirRoKFiT: yup07:03
RoKFiTwith 32 bit firefox07:03
RoKFiT?07:03
abattoirRoKFiT: yes07:03
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weswh-so i wonder what's up with that but oh well. i followed a guide online for adding new  sources and repositories (should have multiverse and nonfree and everything now), and i did an aptitude update, it all worked.07:03
intelikeyweswh- ubuntu opted to setup wacom devices in all xorg configurations  so that if you have it it will work and if you don't all it does is wastes a few clock ticks,   no blood no foul.07:04
weswh-but in adept, i search for 'libxine' and there are no results07:04
RoKFiTwell do you know when the 64 bit version will be available07:04
jdq997guys, I have a strange problem that I need some help with07:04
RoKFiTabattoir: how long have you been running it for?07:04
mathieu_weswh-: make sure you added plf07:04
RoKFiTwithout any problems07:04
ThePubweswh-: what about from a commandline using apt-cache?07:04
weswh-what does apt-cache do? refreshes it all?07:04
mathieu_weswh-: sudo apt-cache search libxine07:05
abattoirRoKFiT: had it running in edgy for a few weeks07:05
ThePubweswh-: nah, jsut package database tool.. searching and stuff07:05
intelikeyweswh- apt-cache is used simply to search/parse the database of packages07:05
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RoKFiTand then?07:05
abattoirRoKFiT: (mplayer worked too, even though the last few posts seem to indicate otherwise)07:05
RoKFiTdid it just quit07:05
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jdq997It has to do with beryl and gnome.  Beryl works... the problem I'm having is that when I try to go into sessions to add beryl-manager to start up it won't allow me to do it.07:05
ThePubyou don't need root privs to use apt-cache for searching though (which can be nice)07:05
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abattoirRoKFiT: updates to feisty broke it yesterday, i haven't had the time to figure out why yet07:06
RoKFiTmplayer does not work for youtube07:06
jdq997Any ideas?07:06
ThePubbrb, going to change sessions.07:06
mathieu_oh, didnt know that07:06
abattoirRoKFiT: yeah, i know, that thread is not only for flash, but also for java and getting video plugins to work07:06
weswh-so if i want one of these, all i do is type apt-get (the name)?>07:06
mathieu_weswh-: sudo apt-get install (the name)07:06
intelikeyweswh- sudo apt-get install <the.name>07:07
intelikeyweswh- sudo apt-get remove <the.name>07:07
intelikeyman apt-get07:07
intelikeyman apt-cache07:07
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weswh-perfect...man that is fun07:08
weswh-more fun than GUI :)07:08
mathieu_despite all the efforts to have nice graphical installers, this is still *the* easiest way to install programs07:08
ThePubmathieu_: just using apt-get and such?07:09
intelikeyweswh- hehhe     if you've never used man pages  you should probably do   man man    or  man intro   or both....07:09
mathieu_actually, try man:/man in konq, much cooler :)07:10
weswh-nice..07:10
weswh-yeah to be honest when in the past i have used man pages they seemed so clumsy..07:10
intelikeymathieu_ cool is kinda an opinion there.07:10
weswh-unless you are like a vi expert07:10
weswh-so i always tried to find the info on the web07:10
ThePubnah, just reading a man page isn't hard or confusing07:11
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intelikeybut they can seem cryptic to the beginner...07:11
mathieu_it is. but im sure I share it with the majority, so that makes it a truth :)07:11
weswh-i really just meant navigating through them07:11
weswh-in a terminal07:11
ThePubintelikey: anything on a commandline is cryptic to the beginner!  :)07:11
weswh-not the info itself07:11
RoKFiTwhat art program do i want ot be using?07:11
intelikeyRoKFiT gimp07:12
ThePubRoKFiT: pixel or splines?  gimp is great, but so is inkwell07:12
weswh-so once i have a shell up and do sudo once and enter my password, i can do sudo again and again without re-renting it?07:12
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RoKFiTpikxel07:12
RoKFiTpixel07:12
weswh-re-renting/re-entering07:12
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ThePubWhat's funny about the commandline is that the keyboard is by far the most intuitive device on a computer :)07:12
RoKFiTwhat package do i install for pixel07:12
mathieu_weswh-: until it expires, yea07:12
ThePubweswh-: "sudo bash"!  :)07:13
intelikeyweswh- default is something like 15minutes....07:13
RoKFiTThePub: are any kde specific07:13
mathieu_RoKFiT: gimp, krita, kolourpaint07:13
weswh-huh, i thought this thing came standard with juk07:13
weswh-guess not07:13
mathieu_ThePub: sudo -s07:13
intelikeyThePub why sudo bash ?     sudo -i07:13
RoKFiTwhat package do i install for gimp?07:13
ThePubidk  *shrug*  "init 1"  :)07:13
mathieu_lol07:13
intelikeygimp - The GNU Image Manipulation Program07:14
mathieu_!gimp07:14
ubotuAn advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.07:14
mathieu_!krita07:14
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2463 kB, installed size 7768 kB07:14
mathieu_!kolourpaint07:14
ubotukolourpaint: a simple paint program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1041 kB, installed size 2348 kB07:14
intelikeyThePub hehhe  sudo init 1     lol07:14
RoKFiT!pixel07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pixel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:14
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RoKFiT!kolourpaint07:14
intelikey!kpaint07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpaint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:14
ThePubintelikey: not if you've "sudo bash"!  ;)07:14
jbruckman!gimp07:15
ubotuAn advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.07:15
mathieu_i was pleasantly surprised today when someone sent me a .psd file, and it opened without flaw in kolourpaint07:15
ThePubok, I'm just being silly.. this is why I put an explanation point after all of it :)07:15
RoKFiT!inkwell07:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inkwell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
intelikeyovelish07:15
RoKFiTintelikey: which should i use?07:15
ThePubexclamation07:15
mathieu_RoKFiT: depends on your need07:15
mathieu_RoKFiT: I'd start with trying krita07:15
RoKFiTadvanced photo editing07:16
mathieu_if its not enough, get gimp07:16
intelikeyRoKFiT gimp is heavy  but does just about everything.07:16
RoKFiTkrita should do everything07:16
mathieu_yes but krita is still a bit rough on the edges07:16
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mathieu_I personally use both07:16
RoKFiThow new is it?07:16
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intelikeyI personally use neither07:17
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seishinbyouI'm still using Paint Shop Pro 4 through wine, but I'm silly that way07:17
mathieu_well its only been part of 2 or 3 koffice cycle07:17
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intelikeyi do use    tkpaint - Versatile bitmap/pixmap editing tool07:17
flaccidgimp 2.2.3 rox07:17
intelikeyon occation.07:17
mathieu_my main gripe is its resize function, which blurs the image too much, and working with very large file is a bit slow07:18
ThePubnow you see guys.. why ca07:18
ThePubwhy can't the "system settings" have the "Theme Manager" like kcontrol?07:18
mathieu_my main gripe with gimp is its interface, but thats subjective i guess07:18
ThePubwhy I might mention is NOT on the main main like System Settings07:19
mathieu_ive never got the point of system settings07:19
jbruckmanutorrent was easy to get working...07:19
ThePubit's apparently just a lesser clone of the control center07:19
mathieu_"its like kcontrol, only you gotta figure out where everything is"07:19
ThePub(which I remember kde having from several years ago, but wasn't there this time)07:20
intelikeyThePub no it is the kcontrol   just with switches...07:20
RoKFiTi'm installing gimp07:20
intelikeyThePub it's still there.07:20
seishinbyoujbruckman: glad it worked07:20
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intelikeyThePub cli   kcontrol07:20
weswh-i added the proper packages (per the kbuntu.org website) and everything went fine for getting juk to play mp3s...but it won't play them. could this be because i installed those libarts things before i installed juk?07:20
weswh-or maybe i need to restart?07:20
ThePubintelikey: yes, yes.. I know.. I'm using it right now :)07:21
weswh-it loads the files into its db, but when i press play nothing happens07:21
jbruckmanseishinbyou: thanks a lot. setting the port to 80 allows me to download torrents behind my shcool network07:21
intelikey!mp307:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:21
jbruckmanseishinbyou: i appreciate all the help07:21
ThePubintelikey: I'm just saying.. for us old farts that used this stuff ages ago, they go and replace the old system with a lesser copy of itself.  it's confusicating!  :)07:21
seishinbyouLet the festivities continue, then :)07:21
intelikeyyou did that weswh- ^07:21
jbruckmanhaha07:21
intelikeyThePub not really.   configure the menus and select to show all that stufff07:22
intelikeyit's still there.07:22
mathieu_weswh-:07:22
mathieu_sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \07:22
mathieu_gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \07:22
mathieu_gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecs07:22
mathieu_actually, i think only libxine-extracodecs is needed in this case07:23
mathieu_but well, youll have everything covered :)07:23
weswh-amarok is playing them though, so that's a start. just not juk.07:23
intelikeyor only  w32codecs  and a plugin07:24
weswh-but, this amarok had added several features that it didn't have before...so maybe i'm gonna stay put :)07:24
intelikeyweswh- amarok is a kubuntu pet....07:24
mathieu_logging off, bye all07:25
RoKFiTgimp is nice07:25
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momalIs anyone able to install libqt3-mt-dev ??? Its breaking on me07:25
momal!libqt3-mt-dev07:26
ubotulibqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB07:26
intelikeyxpaint - simple paint program for X  <--- have used.  remanissant of  early windows  paintbrush07:26
jbruckmanseishinbyou: i've downloaded 7 times as much on utorrent in 10 minutes as i did on ktorrent in about an hour...07:26
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homerhi, got a problem with my monitor and the right size and khz.anyone whos familiar with editing xorg.conf?07:27
RoKFiTanything better than amule?07:27
RoKFiThomer, i had some problems when i edited xorg07:27
weswh-what's a quick and dirty system resource monitor that can dock somehow? (cpu/mem etc)07:27
RoKFiTooh idk07:28
RoKFiTisn't there one on add applet?07:28
homerRoKFiT: me too, but i edited it now about 20 times07:28
intelikeyweswh- ksysguard ?07:28
intelikeyoh doc.... not sure.07:28
intelikeygkrealm ?07:29
homeranyone who has experience with the "Modeline Generator" ?07:30
intelikeygkrellm   that is.07:30
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homerbtw,how do i paste with keys in linux?07:30
intelikeyhomer maybe if you pastebin your xorg.conf  someone will have a look at it that might spot the problem....07:31
intelikeyfrom console ?07:31
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intelikeyfrom console i use gpm   general purpose mouse support for the linux console.07:31
weswh-is there a place i can just check things out from command line or something, before i decide on an app?07:32
weswh-i'd like to see memory usage really, that's about it07:32
intelikeyweswh- free      and note the second line.   "-/+ buffers/cache:"  is actual usage.07:33
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slophow do i change my default movie player?07:33
RoKFiTwhat can i use besides amule07:33
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intelikeymldonkey   or some such...07:34
RoKFiTwhat else07:34
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intelikeyRoKFiT apt-cache search <string>07:34
RoKFiTwhat am i searching?07:34
RoKFiTp2p?07:34
RoKFiTfilesharing07:34
No1VikingI know I have kwallet installed but where can I find it?07:34
intelikeyadd  | less       if it returns tons and you want to browse the data.07:34
weswh-wow, this is much more efficient than xubuntu was07:35
weswh-i don't know what was wrong with that...07:35
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intelikeyadd   | grep <string>       if you want to filter07:35
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ThePubI will say, I like Konversation :)07:35
intelikeyi tried that once.07:36
No1VikingI know I have kwallet installed but I cant find it. Any ideas?07:36
intelikeyit was a white back ground.      haven't seen it sense.07:36
ThePubintelikey: lol, you can change that.. it's just a matter of settings, like everything else ;)07:36
intelikeykwalletmanager ?07:37
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weswh-well guys thanks for all the help. this was a good first night with things.07:37
intelikeyThePub to easy to just not use it.07:37
weswh-i'll hang out and field some of the newbie questions you guys have been so patient with. night!07:37
rodrigowuuuuuuuaaaaa cuanta gente07:37
intelikeygooday weswh-07:38
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rodrigojajajjajajja esto es como la ayuda online de kubuntu???07:38
homerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35889/07:38
homerits my xorg,conf07:38
rodrigo_07:39
xsacha"Another zero day flaw has been reported in Windows Media player." hmm?07:39
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homerin xp paste = ctrl+v, and in linux?07:40
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xsachamiddle mouse click, or ctrl+v07:40
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homernow it works,hmmm ,yesterday not ?07:41
xsachactrl+v always works here :S07:41
intelikeyhomer ^v  just like xp07:41
homerlol, now i see07:41
intelikeyhomer do you really want line   138.     virtual 1920 1200   in there.07:41
homerbut tried it yesterday and didnt find a working pate thing07:41
intelikeyi'd comment that out.07:41
homerintelikey:  i dont know07:42
homerintelikey: what i want is 1600x1024@8507:42
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maikerujbruckman: are you there?07:42
[Ag0ny] can anybody help me switch from gcj to sun's jdk ? I've already installed the jdk but I'm having trouble switching the associations07:42
homerintelikey: but i just get it to 1600x1024@6007:43
seven11jbruckman: you use utorrent?07:43
homerin xp it works07:43
PeteHi, when triing to install kubuntu, xorg starts and then the system hangs with a blank screen. any clue?07:44
ThePubis there something for kde.. kind of like the apple dock, but more like an open task list that would only display.. say.. 48pixel icons of open tasks?07:44
homerintelikey: its a 24" 16/10 ,i think07:44
homerintelikey: or 16/907:44
seven11jbruckman: you use utorrent with wine? i would like to be as happy as you, can you tell me how you did it?07:45
intelikeyhomer but vertual setting just makes the desktop scrool around like it didn't fit into the box...07:45
intelikeyi don't know.   i don't see anything in the file that should be causing a limit on rez.07:46
homer?, right now i have 1920x1200@75 and its ok, just the refreshrate sucks07:47
homerintelikey: and i dont want resolution so high07:47
intelikeybut what's that monitor listing at the bottom all about ?07:47
homerdont know07:47
Peteis there an option i grub I can add to prevent the freeze?07:47
intelikeyyou can use kde and reduce the rez07:47
homeri just installed kubuntu and fighting with a screenresolutin that sont cancers my eyes07:48
intelikeypete maybe force a frame buffer mode.    before you boot hit f1  and    i think f6 is the info on the rez pete07:48
homerintelikey: i know ,but in 1600x1024 i get it just @6007:49
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Peteintelikey: thx, I'll try that07:49
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intelikeyhomer yes that's the only modeline you have for that....  i don't know if the hardware can do higher or not.  maybe trade some rez for some refresh..... ?07:50
intelikey1440x900@75 ?07:51
homerintelikey: i always switch my hds from win to kubuntu, so in win with the dame hardware it runs perfect07:51
homer*same07:52
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intelikeyhomer i'm not educated in that relm.   and i don't do windows.    maybe someone else can help you with it.07:52
intelikeyhomer also of note,  that is xorg specific  you could check #xorg   or even  #ubuntu      for more input ?07:53
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homerintelikey: just wanted to say that the hardware shouldnt be the problem cause it can do it in win07:53
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homerintelikey: i searched a few forums,but didnt get answers that solved my problem07:54
intelikeycheck the other channels   and maybe even  ##linux07:54
intelikeyyour config looks ok to me.07:55
homerintelikey: lol,maybe.  but i can see the difference betwenn @75 nad@8507:55
intelikeybut i would comment out the vertual setting.07:55
homerintelikey: damn im writing to slow07:55
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=== intelikey likes 120hz
homer*homer would be happy to have at least 85khz07:56
=== seishinbyou can't see the difference between refresh rates, but is researching homer's problem anyways
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gangienis there a way to configure konversation so it shows all the tabs at once and i don't have to scroll around?07:57
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intelikeyseishinbyou homer's xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35889/07:58
homerif i look beside the monitor, i could the it flicker if its not 85khz07:58
homerand get headache after 1 or 2 hours07:58
intelikeycrt's are evil....07:58
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homerintelikey: but its biiiiiig07:59
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homerintelikey: and on ebay cheep07:59
malik__can any one tell me how do i put network monitor in task bar so that i  wud know if my net connection is workin?07:59
homerabout 50euros for a 24" was a good price07:59
intelikeyfor cheep lazer surgery just touch your eye to the screen......08:00
seishinbyouModeline "1440x900" 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 +HSync +VSync08:00
vgemalik__: install KNemo?08:00
homerok , ill try that08:00
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=== seishinbyou honestly cannot see flicker and cannot tell the difference between 60/75/85/etc refresh rates, but known everyone else seems to be able to
intelikeyseishinbyou i can see 60 or lower08:01
intelikeyhad a single rate 55hz crt one time... it defnitely blinked.....08:02
intelikeyok i'm went.   good day, and good luck to your hat.08:03
seishinbyouHmm, homer is going to come back happy...or yell at me that it didn't work...which will it be :)08:03
ThePubyelling is usually more in order08:04
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ThePubor more the 'norm' :)08:04
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homeri still have @7508:05
seishinbyouWell, back to the drawing board08:05
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homerat least i lerned the last 2 days how to get wrightrights on kubuntu ;)08:06
seishinbyouModeline "1440x900" 86.73 1440 1472 1800 1832 900 919 927 94608:06
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seishinbyouTaken from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=25458708:07
homerno hsync or something on the end?08:08
homeri m also gonna add -Option "IgnoreEDID" "off"  -08:09
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homercouldnt be worser08:09
homerget08:09
homerwhats "dpms"?08:10
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ThePubhomer: it means X will try to automatically determine the right hsync/vrefresh for the given resolution.08:13
ThePubhomer: instead of using a modeline :)08:13
homerThePub: ah ok08:13
homerstill dont getting @8508:14
homeron 800x600 i could set it to @8508:15
homerbut...08:15
homerin conqueror where is the list of recently visited?08:16
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RogueJediXHey. Does anyone here use KTorrent?08:18
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slophelp!  in my unending quest to figure out why i don't get sound in flash 9, i tried running firefox in console...when i watch a flash movie, i get a TON of errors in the console that don't mean much to me....could anyone be so kind to take a look at them, and see if it means anything to them?  they are posted here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35892/08:18
LoneShadowanyone running kubuntu on usb flash drive ?08:18
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[Ag0ny] can anybody help me switch from gcj to sun's jdk ? I've already installed the jdk but I'm having trouble switching the associations08:20
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RoKFiTis it possible to set gimp to zoom with the mouse?08:21
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ThePub[Ag0ny] : update-alternatives --config java08:22
ThePub[Ag0ny] : ^^^ didn't work?08:22
cpk1LoneShadow: i've ran kubuntu off a hdd via usb...08:23
fildo*gone*08:23
[Ag0ny] ThePub, trying now08:24
jbruckmanseven11: sorry, I was away. Yes, I use utorrent08:25
[Ag0ny] ThePub, nope08:25
jbruckmanseven11: if you're still there I'd be willing to help08:25
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seven11jbruckman: i use this page at the moment http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19116108:29
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jbruckmanseven11: you should be fine then08:29
jbruckmanseven11: if you need any help though, let me know.08:30
seven11thanks jbruckman08:30
jbruckmanseven11: no problem.08:30
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RoKFiTwhy are transparencies so hard in the gimp?08:36
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jbruckman!nvidia08:44
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:44
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ThePubis there a way to add/remove items from the system menu applet?08:47
JucatoThePub: you mean hide them?08:48
ThePubno, I was thinking it'd be nice to add folders to it08:48
Jucatoah... then, afaik, no08:48
ThePubsince it opens a konq window directly, it's way nicer than the file list applet08:48
[Ag0ny] ThePub, I figured it out, it only took rebuilding my repositories twice :x08:49
ThePubI really like the "places" menu under gnome08:51
ThePubit's pretty convenient.  the system menu applet under kde could offer the same feature if the items were editable08:51
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euwaexwitam08:54
euwaexczy ktos moze mnie powiedziec gdzie kubuntu trzyma pliki thunderbirda? w jakim katalogu08:55
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lotusleafIs anyone using Compiz in the repos with Kubuntu? Or must I use it with gnome? I'm not interested in beryl08:56
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jbruckmanback.09:11
jbruckman!beryl09:11
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl09:11
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homerlalalalalalala.... i get my favorite monitor resolution 1600x1024@8509:16
flaccidi prefer 1680 x 108009:17
flaccid*105009:17
homerthat was a big quest for me getting this resolution now09:18
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flacciddrivers?09:18
homerdidnt worked all the time, and now i just added -all- options i could find from forums ,and now it works09:19
flaccidfair enough09:19
homerjust dont know witch option is responsible for making my monitor work09:20
homernow09:20
flaccidoption?09:20
homerya, in xorg.conf09:20
homeradded so much ;)09:20
flaccidis this for the monitor or the card?09:20
homerhmmm, must take a look09:21
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homerfor the card i added :  Option "NvAGP" "1" ,  Option "RenderAccel" "true",   Option "NoLogo" "on"09:22
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jbruckmanAdmiral_Chicago: you there?09:23
homerand for the monitor i added:Option "UseEDID" "false",  Option "dpms"09:23
homerand modelines09:23
homerbut they dont worked without the options09:24
homerso, now that i dont get headache working with kubuntu, ican now try to understand linux09:25
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maikerujbruckman: hes preoccupied09:25
jbruckmanmaikeru: k09:26
homerhow can i make an autostart entry?09:26
homerwanted yakuake to start when kubuntu is starting09:27
seishinbyoumake a symbolic link from ~/.kde/Autostart09:28
seishinbyoumy mind is fuzzy...  ln -s yakuake ~/.kde/Autostart  ?09:29
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homerehm....? just want yakuake to start at startup09:29
maikerujbruckman: is it working?09:30
seishinbyouThat is what you do.  You make a shorcut (so to speak) from the .kde/Autostart folder in your home directory to the program you want to run09:30
Jucatoln -s /usr/bin/yakuake ~/.kde/Autostart/09:30
Linux_Galorehomer run yakuake in a terminal log out and dont close the terminal then log back in it should auto start from that point forward09:30
Jucatoor turn on "Restore from previous session"09:31
seishinbyouIsn't "Restore from previous session" the default?09:31
Jucato(he might have turned it off?)09:31
Jucatoyes it is on by default (ick...)09:32
jbruckman!qt_plugins_3.3rc09:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qt_plugins_3.3rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
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homerok,opened in terminal,loged ou/in,is there, but i have to find out if its still there when i reboot09:36
homerhow can i have a "root" session without entering all the time my pw09:37
homer?09:37
seishinbyousudo su -09:38
homerlike writing the pw once and kubuntu dont asks me again till i log out09:38
homersudo su - mypassword?09:38
seishinbyouthat will log you into the root account, though it isn't always a good idea to run everything as root09:39
Jucatosudo -i09:39
homeryah , but right now im trying to build my kubuntu up and every 2 min i have to type my pw09:40
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homerboth dont seem to work for me , i entered :sudo su -   and other time sudo -i    but when i click on adeptmanager he still wants my pw?09:44
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Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: #monmouth09:46
maikeru!version09:46
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.09:46
homer!sound09:47
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:47
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homer!root09:48
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:48
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jbruckmanis there a way to make the bot go into a channel I make?09:52
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nibletsI have a question about Konqueror, when I am browsing the net, if I dont click a link or a refresh every ten-fifteen seconds, it dsiconnects from the server, and then when I do link somewhere, it takes extra time to start up and then start downloading again. Si tehre any way I can cahnge it to have a 2min countdown or anything close?10:03
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nibletsany ideas?10:05
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vorpaldoes the same happen in firefox/opera/lynx/whatever10:06
vorpal?10:06
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nibletsvorpal_I dont have any other web browsers, I havent had a chance to install them, as I only upgraded to edgy yesterday10:07
vorpalwell it sounds like a problem somewhere other than in konqueror.10:08
vorpalis it dialup or cable/ADSL?10:08
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nibletsDSL, its nothing to do with the network speeds, as when I give it a task, it takes tiem only to restart the server, yet when it loads the actual page data, is it as quick as normal10:10
nibletsI was just querying whether it was a timer function set in Konqueror, as it is not only web-based, and if it can be changed10:10
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vorpalniblets: i was about to ask if other things could get online with out probs and suggest you try seeing if konversation would work.... then i realised i'm stupid10:11
vorpallol10:11
nibletsvorpal: dont worry about it, I have had blonde moments today, havent slept in over 48 hours, so I though I'd give up searching through Konsole and ask someone who knows what they are doing10:12
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tomlikestorockin windows you can hold down alt and then type on the number pad to get different ascii characters, or use charmap to get them as well. how do you do this in kde?10:13
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nibletsvorpal: I am also on Kopete, so it hasnt anything to do with the connection.10:14
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JohnFluxtomlikestorock: there's kcharselect10:15
JohnFluxtomlikestorock: although personally i prefer gnome-character-map10:15
tomlikestorockcan you still do the numpad ascii chars?10:15
JohnFluxnah10:16
tomlikestorockor something like it?10:16
JohnFluxtomlikestorock: what sort of characters are you after?10:16
vorpalniblets: was it a clean install or an upgrade?10:16
tomlikestorockthe squared number10:16
tomlikestorock2 superscript10:16
JohnFluxalt+210:17
JohnFlux10:17
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nibletsvorpal: I installed Kubuntu 6.06 then upgraded to edgy straight away. So not exactly a clean install.10:17
JohnFluxthe alt on the right hand side10:17
tomlikestorocknot on this laptop :(10:17
JohnFluxtomlikestorock: if you setup scim input, then you can type in the characters much easier10:18
JohnFluxtomlikestorock: unfortunately it's still a bit of a pain to setup10:18
tomlikestorockforget it then :)10:19
tomlikestorockkcharselect will work for now10:19
JohnFluxtomlikestorock: hmm.  you only have one alt key?10:19
tomlikestorocknope, too10:19
tomlikestorockbut alt gr doesn't do anything10:19
JohnFluxtomlikestorock: use gnome character map10:19
JohnFluxtomlikestorock: oh10:19
tomlikestorockyeah10:19
tomlikestorock's weird10:19
JohnFluxtomlikestorock: press alt-gr 2    does nothing?10:19
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tomlikestorockyup, nothing10:19
tomlikestorockwell, I get a 210:19
tomlikestorockbut not a super script two10:20
JohnFluxwhat about alt-gr [  then e10:20
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tomlikestorock[e10:20
tomlikestorockheh10:20
JohnFluxhmmmm10:20
tomlikestorockI'm not worried about it10:21
tomlikestorockthanks, though10:21
JohnFluxyou might be able to check in the system settings10:21
JohnFluxand check that alt-gr  is setup as the compose key10:21
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JohnFluxit's really useful to have10:21
vorpalniblets: The only thing i can think of is a brute force solution of uninstalling konqueror and deleting any files in .kde/share/* that have konqueror in the name then reinstalling konqueror10:21
tomlikestorockoh, also ,I just recently saw a crap ton of updates come down the pipe - what was up with that?10:21
tomlikestorock?10:21
tomlikestorockdoes that have anything to do with the release of the new feisty?10:21
vorpalor just using firefox10:22
JohnFluxtomlikestorock: dunno10:22
JohnFluxniblets: what's the problem sorry?10:22
nibletsvorpal: I might try firefox first. I know its bad, but where can I get ahold of it? Never used it before10:22
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nibletsjohnflux: (REPEAT) I have a question about Konqueror, when I am browsing the net, if I dont click a link or a refresh every ten-fifteen seconds, it dsiconnects from the server, and then when I do link somewhere, it takes extra time to start up and then start downloading again. Si tehre any way I can cahnge it to have a 2min countdown or anything close?10:23
musyais there a flash player for kubuntu that works as far as web apps go?10:23
vorpalopen up a konsole and type: sudo apt-get install firefox10:23
nibletsvorpal: Cheers10:24
vorpalmusya: the package for the firefox plugin works10:24
musyai cant view them10:25
JohnFluxniblets: from a konsole, do  "ping slashdot.org"10:25
JohnFluxniblets: it should say: PING slashdot.org (66.35.250.150) 56(84) bytes of data.10:25
JohnFluxniblets: it should say that immediately10:26
nibletsit does10:26
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vorpalmusya: you need to download it first (and then restart konqueror). Type the following in konsole: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree10:27
JohnFluxniblets: hmm, not a resolving problem then10:28
JohnFluxniblets: ask on #khtml  although people might not be awake yet10:28
musyai would assume that its not free then?10:28
nibletsmusya: It is free, dont worry about the name10:28
vorpalnot free in terms of freedom10:29
nibletsJohnFlux: Will do, cheers10:29
JohnFluxmusya: free as in money, not free as in freedom10:29
JohnFluxmusya: it is free as in money, not free as in freedom10:29
musyaoh,ok, well ill get it figured out then i saw it before just thought it wasnt free, ok thanks!10:29
nibletsYea, I had to get my flash plugins sorted today, threw me off too, but Linux is pretty much 1005free. as far as I know10:29
vorpalthere it also flashplayer-mozzila which is free in both senses, but doesn't work with all sites (including youtube)10:30
niblets*%10:30
nibletsJohnFlux: what should I be asking khtml?10:31
JohnFluxhow to fix your problem :P10:31
JohnFluxjust say what you said here10:31
vorpalniblets: the same thing you asked here10:31
vorpalkhtml is the engine that konqueror uses10:32
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vorpalall the konqueror devs and stuff hang out there10:32
nibletsvorpal: Ohk, sorry. I'm kinda new to Linux10:32
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vorpaldon't be sorry10:32
vorpalthat's what this place is for10:33
vorpalniblets: did firefox work?10:33
nibletsvorpal: I am going to wait until morning, I havent slept in a while, and I don't think I can manage setting up another program today. I'd probably spaz out and pull Linux off my machine =D I will do it in the morning, when I finish sorting out Beryl (pain in the bum)10:35
vorpalberyl? you're brave10:36
vorpalfirefox should just work without any probs10:36
vorpalno set up required10:36
vorpalanyway night10:36
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nibletsAye, I got it to work, and all was fine, then it suddenly decided not to load any images. So I had to restart session, and am yet to brave fixing it. Though all I really need to do is make sure the drivers are all set in zeroconf.10:37
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niblets*any images meaning ANYTHING at all10:37
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seven11jbruckman: do you have tracker problems? keeps telling me that tracker is invalid10:38
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nibletsvorpal: have you tried Beryl?10:40
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vorpalniblets: no way. my laptop is from the mid ninties. I need to use the alternative install CD cause it doesn't have enough ram. Beryl would melt my motherboard10:42
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edgyHi, how can I change the screen color depth in kubuntu?10:43
nibletsvorpal: Even when I got it working, my P4 had trouble with it when it was fully equipped with all the berries and sweets. Makes for some excellent eye candy, but all I really want is the cube change and thats it.10:44
vorpalniblets: how's this for a deal: You buy me a laptop that can run beryl and i'll give you all the support you ever need :P10:44
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vorpalyeah i've seen it in action. It's pretty sweet, but i'm not really that big a fan of eyecandy10:45
nibletsvorpal: Hows this for a better deal, you give me the laptop and Support. And I'll TELL you what its like =D10:46
vorpalniblets: btw, you can change virtual desktops with plain old kde without beryl (sorry since you are new to linux you might not know)10:46
vorpallol10:47
vorpali think not10:47
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nibletsvorpal: Yea, I have got 6 set up. I just like the spinnyness. =P10:47
vorpal:)10:47
vorpalfair enough10:47
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nibletsand the fact taht I have a software program that allows for a different image on each desktop. which is plain awesome10:48
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vorpalwhat is it? I thought kde let you do that10:48
vorpali dunno i haven't used kde in ages10:49
nibletsI dont actually know, a friend of mine set it up (and helped with a lot of this installation) But I am not sure if KDE has that software, I might look for it though. I'd use it10:49
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nibletsvorpal: Catch you another time maybe. I am hitting the shower, then I might be on after, if I can stay awake. the 48+ hours is getting to me10:52
vorpalcya10:53
vorpalhope kubunt works out for ya10:53
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jbruckmanseven11: no, i have no tracker problems.10:55
jbruckmanseven11: are you sure that it's not your torrent?10:55
jbruckmanseven11: i'm getting 300Kb/s DL and 600 Kb/S UL10:56
seven11problem solved thanks again10:56
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edgySirs, how can I install a downloaded .deb so it install its dependencies automatically?11:05
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jbruckmanjust use sudo apt-get install <package>11:06
jbruckmanif you can11:06
vorpaledgy: as in a package that isn't available thru the ubuntu repositories?11:06
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berkesmy adept updater just performed a huge upgrade of all sorts of kde upgrades. Where whas that for?11:07
Jucatono you can't do that with deb11:07
Jucatoberkes: most probably bug fixes and patches that have been waiting since Edgy was released11:08
Jucatoedgy: you can't do that with .deb packages, such is the nature of the .deb (same goes for .rpm)11:08
seven11jbruckman: nice speed i sit on a 21 km2 island in the gulf of thailand and i am happy if i get 30 kb/s :)11:09
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vorpalberkes: its nothing to worry about, it happens all the time11:09
jbruckmanseven11: haha, nice11:09
berkesvorpal: yes, I know, but never this much.11:10
berkesthis was about 80M of kde libs and so. But I thought it would've been an general bugfix release thingy :)11:10
Jucatoberkes: a lot of bugs and patches from KDE were released just a few days since edgy was released. what's surprising is that it only came now11:10
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Jucatoof course, presuming this update was for those bugs....11:11
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edgyvorpal: yes, webmin exactly11:13
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edgyJucato: so what shall I do?11:13
dan__Hello, everyone... I can't compile my kernel, I get an odd error... Is there a special channel for this topic, or could anyone help me here? Thanks.11:15
edgyvorpal, Jucato: dpkg -i would install webmin and leave apt-get in a non-stable stage due to the missing packages11:15
edgydan__: I guess you can ask here11:15
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vorpaledgy: just make sure you have all the dependincies before you run dpkg and it should be right11:17
edgyvorpal: how can I tell the dependencies in advance?11:18
bmcagedoes somebody here now how to remove an entry from system:/remote ?11:18
vorpaledgy: where did you get it?11:19
vorpaldid they tell you?11:19
dan__edgy: After make modules, I get this; make[3] : *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.o'.  Stop. ; What shoul I do?11:19
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edgyvorpal: from webmin site11:20
edgyvorpal: I can't find it in their site11:20
vorpalwell you could run dpkg -i see its errors and then run dpkg -r (that's remove) and then install all the dependencies11:22
djdarkmanhy ,how can I share my internet connection ,what do I have to set?11:22
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jbruckmanwhatare some good photo editors for kubuntu?11:23
edgydan__: I don't know but perhaps someone else can help you11:23
edgyjbruckman: krita maybe11:23
jbruckmanedgy: thanks!11:24
djdarkmanwhat do I have to set up to be able to share my internet connection11:24
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edgydjdarkman: one of those firewalls programs I guess11:25
Frederickfolks wich is the comand n the american kb to display de symbol used for degrees and numbers as first second and so on?11:25
dan__After setting the config and trying "make modules", it starts, and then I get this: make[3] : *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.o'.  Stop.11:26
dan__Does anyone have an idea?11:26
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ScarFreewill!java11:26
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:26
djdarkmanhow can I quickle enable the net sharing?11:27
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Frederickdoes kde has any character map aplication?11:28
djdarkmanI mean what is the iptables command that resets the firewall settings?11:28
llutziptables -X11:30
krautmoin11:30
edgyFrederick: why not you try charmap11:31
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gabry2887ciao a tutti11:33
gabry2887:)11:33
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edgydjdarkman: try firestarter11:34
JucatoFrederick: kcharselect, I think11:35
Jucato!kcharselect11:35
ubotukcharselect: character selector for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 340 kB11:35
JucatoFrederick: ^^^^^^^^^^11:35
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edgy!webmin11:35
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.11:35
edgyubotu: avoid it?! there is a .deb file on their site why you not just grab it and use it or report a bug if you feel there is instead of this silly reply? ;)11:36
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Jucatoedgy: you do know you are talking to a bot, right? ;)11:37
edgyJucato: yes I know ;)11:37
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Jucatoand just because there's a deb file on the webmin site doesn't mean it's supported by Ubuntu and Debian11:38
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edgyJucato: yes but it's working properly and I believe some one should jump and support it it's a very important and useful package really11:38
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vorpaledgy: what's webmin?11:39
edgyJucato: webmin supports ubuntu and debian and I hope ubuntu and debian also supports it.11:39
edgyvorpal: a tool to administer everything in your pc11:39
edgyvorpal: it could also work like cpanel to hosting services11:40
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noiesmoedgy, webmin is considered a security threat  so I hear11:40
vorpaleverything on your pc? that's quite a claim11:40
edgynoiesmo: nonsense11:41
edgyvorpal: yes it's _almost_ everythinig ;)11:41
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maikeru_!flash11:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:41
edgynoiesmo: every package could have security issues11:42
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noiesmoedgy, yeah what ever were all aloud our own options but this is off topic anyway11:43
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lelehi guys11:44
noiesmohi11:44
chrismohi11:44
lelehey11:44
leleneed help here :P11:44
lelea lil help11:45
lelehow can i create videotutorial with ubuntu?11:45
lele......11:46
chrismohttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/11:47
lele:)11:47
B-Minus_erm11:47
leletnx11:47
B-Minus_major upgrade ?11:47
chrismolele, theres also istambul but I use the setup in that guide11:48
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chrismolele, oops istanbul11:49
lele;)11:49
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lelechrismo: i love you bwahuahua11:51
leletnx m811:51
lele:P11:51
chrismolele, anytime11:51
vorpallele and chrismo sitting in a tree K I S S I N G11:54
vorpalsorry11:54
vorpali'm very tired11:54
chrismolele, here my vid on screencasting http://superuser.com.au/wiki/index.php/Screencasting_Libre_Software_Video%28flash%2911:54
lelelol11:54
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lelechrismo: i serching only for the prog ;)11:55
lelesorry for my english :P11:55
lelei'm italian11:55
lele^^11:55
chrismolele, i just followed that ubuntu blog guide and modified it a little11:55
lele:)11:55
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lelechrismo: it work....tnx u are very kind11:59
lele;)12:00
chrismolele, leave a comment on his blog :)12:00
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chrismolele, :)12:00
lele;)12:01
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Voker57help!! I can't login to system!12:02
Voker57It throws me back to login screen12:02
lelestart the system with command line12:02
lelethen do adduser name12:02
Voker57eh12:03
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Voker57I added a user12:03
Voker57he gets the same problem12:03
noiesmoVoker57, long shot check if any disk space left on your system if not only root could login and delete some files etc12:06
Voker57There is 1.2 gbytes free12:06
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noiesmoVoker57, k12:07
Voker57and i still can login as root in recovery mode12:07
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noiesmoVoker57, when did this problem occur after upgrade ?12:07
Voker57noiesmo: yeah it showed up when i installed nvidia drivers12:07
Voker57now i erased them but...12:07
noiesmoVoker57, ok are you 32bit or 64 bit, dapper or edgy12:08
Voker5732bit 6.06 dapper12:09
noiesmoVoker57, how did you install nvidia drivers12:09
Voker57noiesmo: from reps12:10
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noiesmoVoker57, ok this is how I would remommend to install nvidia-glx and adjust xorg.conf file12:10
noiesmoVoker57, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)12:11
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noiesmoVoker57, video card model please12:11
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Voker57noiesmo: nvidia fx5900xt12:12
noiesmoVoker57, ok fine this should work no probs12:13
sb9how do i switch off SELinux ?12:13
sb9i need a command12:13
jetcanyone know how to configure tightvncserver?12:13
sb9i cant remember it12:13
noiesmoVoker57, open konsole and in one line > sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)12:13
Voker57i can do that via adept12:13
noiesmoVoker57, as long as the  linux-restricted-modules match your kernel12:14
vorpalsb9: maybe try #SELinux12:14
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noiesmoVoker57, ok you do what ever man, i was just trying to help with your problem, and make sure that things would work12:17
Voker57noiesmo: yeah i understand12:18
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SoulSeekerhow to add some sites to my sources list ?12:28
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Voker57I reinstalled the drivers12:29
Voker57but i get the same screen12:29
Voker57BTW, what means "FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing."12:30
Voker57?12:30
Voker57And where to modify this refcount12:30
noiesmoVoker57, maybe check log files like /var/log/kdm.log12:31
Voker57and what to serach there?12:31
Voker57I get this line in Xorg.0.log12:32
Voker57it is last, so everything crashes after it12:32
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noiesmoVoker57, can you pastebin your xorg.conf file please12:33
Voker57noiesmo: ok wait12:33
Voker57noiesmo: http://nbl.yurx.com/xorg.conf12:35
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Voker57noiesmo: any ideas?12:38
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noiesmoVoker57, not sure sorry12:39
Voker57noiesmo: wtf is refcount?12:39
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Voker57WTF is refcount???12:44
Voker57Where to fix this warning??12:44
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ChousukeVoker57: I don't think that warning is anything to worry about12:45
Voker57Anyway12:46
ChousukeMaybe you have a duplicate entry in your configs somewhere.12:46
Voker57What is refcount?12:46
Chousukereference count12:46
Voker57This is the last string in conf12:46
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Voker57ok i will search them for a double entry12:46
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noiesmoVoker57, just reading a post on forum and they found if they used gdm instead of kdm as the login manager it worked they just choose kde as session in gdm12:48
noiesmoVoker57, near bottom of post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=44545612:48
Voker57noiesmo: hmmm! where to get the gdm?12:48
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noiesmoVoker57, sudo apt-get install gdm12:48
noiesmoVoker57, then just select to use instead of kdm12:48
Voker576 mbytes. That sucks12:50
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noiesmoVoker57, are you running xgl12:52
Voker57nope12:52
noiesmoVoker57, k12:52
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Voker57nice those people have the similar problem12:54
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francescociao a tutti12:56
francescoc' un iotaliano?12:56
Voker57nope12:56
francescosono appena entrato nel mondo di kubuntu12:56
francescoe volevo alcune delucidazioni12:56
francescose  possibile :)12:57
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francescolol12:57
francesconessuno vuole parlarE?12:57
gnomefreak!it12:58
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:58
aileanif (when feisty is ready) i decide to upgrade using the Kubuntu disc from Ubuntu, will there be any problem?12:58
aileani.e. ubuntu edgy -> kubuntu feisty12:58
gnomefreakailean: right now probably12:59
gnomefreakailean: very little issues should arise though12:59
aileangnomefreak, nah, i mean when it's ready12:59
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gnomefreakailean: at release time?12:59
aileanaye12:59
gnomefreakailean: well most bugs should be worked out by than12:59
aileangnomefreak, i installed kubuntu-desktop before and it caused a few niggling problems12:59
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aileanbut i think i'm going to go completely kubuntu01:00
francescoei come si installano le applicazioni come skype su kubuntu?01:00
ailean!it01:00
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:00
gnomefreakfrancesco: #ubuntu-it01:00
gnomefreakor #kubuntu-it01:00
aileanfrancesco, si vorrei restare in #kubuntu, parla inglese01:01
gnomefreakailean: int he next few weeks i will be testing more and i will see what we can/cant fix but its way early to know for release01:01
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aileanno probs01:01
aileanta :)01:01
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aileanheh01:02
aileangnomefreak, anything i can help with?01:02
gnomefreakailean: not yet everything seems smooth :)01:02
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aileangah i hate l33tsp33k01:03
DJ_Stefan0Where did you guys hide /etc/resolv.conf ? i want to edit the nameserver variable so i can connect to the internet?01:03
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DJ_Stefan0i go ifconfig 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.001:04
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Voker57the crap is the same01:04
DJ_Stefan0then route add default gw 192.168.0.101:04
DJ_Stefan0but there is no /etc/resolv.conf for me to edit01:04
DJ_Stefan0:@01:04
Voker57instAlled gdm, no difference01:04
noiesmoVoker57, dam01:04
Voker57noiesmo: ?01:05
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noiesmoVoker57, no good bugger01:05
Voker57eh01:06
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intelikeyhmmm i'd like to configure xsane but all i can get out of the app itself is an error message "no device found"01:07
noiesmoVoker57, I mean thats not good hope it would work01:07
intelikeyanyone got clues on sane ?01:07
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DJ_Stefan0any1 here NOT USING DHCP?01:09
DJ_Stefan0lol01:09
intelikeythere doesn't seem to be any scanner mentioned in system > peripherals       ???01:09
intelikeyDJ_Stefan0 i'm not.01:10
DJ_Stefan0well then tell me how to get my networking up and running01:10
intelikeybut that wont help you.01:10
DJ_Stefan0i did the ifconfig part01:10
DJ_Stefan0i did the route part..01:10
intelikeyDJ_Stefan0 i have no clue.01:10
DJ_Stefan0i just need it to know the DNS01:10
DJ_Stefan0:@01:10
DJ_Stefan0coz Kubuntu has hidden resolv.conf01:10
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intelikeyDJ_Stefan0 it's still right where it always was.  /etc/resolv.conf01:11
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DJ_Stefan0grr well my Kubuntu instalation must be corrupt then01:11
DJ_Stefan0lol01:11
DJ_Stefan0coz i have no /etc/resolv.conf...01:12
DJ_Stefan0only a resolv.h!01:12
DJ_Stefan0lol01:12
intelikey!hidden | DJ_Stefan001:12
ubotuDJ_Stefan0: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles01:12
Voker57what a brilliant feature01:12
Voker57Maybe let's develop a new one, hiding half of a screen?01:12
intelikeyyep another bone headed idea from .....01:12
intelikeyhey and lets hide all files with .name01:13
Voker57rm *.*01:13
intelikeyVoker57 why not just *   you only intend files with . in the name ?01:14
DJ_Stefan0ah i made 101:14
DJ_Stefan0thanx01:14
DJ_Stefan0anyway01:14
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intelikeyrm *.* wont do much on a linux box....01:15
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DJ_Stefan0lol01:15
DJ_Stefan0yes.. rm * ftw01:15
DJ_Stefan0:)01:15
intelikeyreset a few configs is all you'll get out of that.01:15
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intelikeynow anyone know scanners ?   or sane ?     or how to get them to play togather ?01:16
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eilkerhow can i make konqueror to open maximized ?01:19
eilkeri mean  on opening01:19
eilkeri tried with  ctrl key, but i couldnt01:20
noiesmoeilker, open konquerour then make fuillscreen then go settings save view profile01:20
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eilkernoiesmo: thank you, it is done, by the way, do we have a way for softwares too ? or must it be done with each software's settings  ?01:22
intelikeyor even better. the upper left corner of konqueror, click the button select advanced > special window settings01:22
noiesmoeilker, think it will be in the apps01:22
intelikeyagain you can do as i just mentioned and make it global01:23
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noiesmoeilker, you can set which apps open which file type01:23
intelikeyuse the little icon in the title bar...   that's what it's there for.01:24
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eilkerintelikey: yes i found  special window settings01:26
intelikeyyou can do lots of fun stuff to one or all windows there.01:27
intelikeynote; if you make all windows open maximiZed   then even dialog windows are maxed....   not the prettiest thing in the world.01:28
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eilkeri didnt do it, but i wanna make it open in / , in opening01:29
eilkernow it is opening blank01:29
intelikeyso a usb all in one scanner/printer/fax what device will the scanner be ?   sda ?    /proc/usb/something ????01:30
eilkersorry ?01:31
eilkeri wanna have konqueror as we write / and enter in adresss bar, i wanna view / in opening01:31
eilkernow it is blank01:32
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eilkernow i have 2 profiles, kubuntu file manager and web browser01:33
eilkerwhat about the others ?_01:33
eilkerdo we have more ?01:33
intelikeyyou can make more.01:34
intelikeycustomize and save profile01:34
eilker i wanna have konqueror as we write / and enter in adresss bar, i wanna view / in opening01:35
eilkerhow to do it ?01:35
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eilkerdone, thank you01:37
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BluesKajhowdy all :)01:43
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ThePubsane is straight forward, just install the backend you need for your piece of hardware01:49
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uschellehi01:52
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tejahai all02:06
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intelikeyanyone savy' enough to help me get a scanner set up ?02:12
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BluesKajhmm, have you tried kooka ?02:13
BluesKajsetup my scanner very easily02:14
BluesKajit's in graphics in the kicker02:14
intelikeyBluesKaj i will.02:14
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wjasdhow can i install kubuntu 6.10 fron harddisk02:18
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marc_hello02:19
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marc_Can someone help me with a little problem?02:20
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BluesKajmarc_, just ask, and if some has an answer he/she will reply02:20
marc_ah thx ...02:20
marc_Ok02:20
wjasdhow can i install kubuntu 6.10 fron harddisk02:21
intelikeyBluesKaj looks like a nice app but no option to setup a scanner that i can find in it....02:21
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BluesKaj!Install02:21
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues02:21
marc_Ive jsut installed kubuntu .. and need to figure out some things. Add first I would like to install Firefox with the graphical Add/Remove Programms  Programm.02:21
marc_But Firefox (and many other Programms) are "grey" and Im unable to select them?!02:22
intelikey!ff02:22
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins02:22
marc_Any ideas?02:22
intelikeymarc_  ^02:22
marc_!ff?02:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ff? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:22
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marc_ahh02:22
marc_:)02:23
marc_thx ... im going to look that page...02:23
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intelikeymarc_ basicly just install it.02:23
BluesKajmarc_, use synaptic or adept to install firefox ...quite sure it's in the edgy repository02:24
intelikeyor sudo apt-get install firefox02:24
marc_But ... if it would have been installed, why isnt it in the "Internet" section of the Starmenu?02:24
BluesKajintelikey, kooka didn't see your scanner ?02:24
wjasdcan kubuntu 6.10 be used as livecd ?02:24
intelikeyBluesKaj no.02:24
marc_yes02:24
marc_yes @ wjasd02:25
wjasdwhen i boot it up ,it asked a passwd02:25
wjasdwhat is the username02:25
doobywjsad - very strange02:25
intelikeyubuntu is the user name on the *buntu live CD s02:26
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wjasdmay be  i used the wrong initrd.gz or vmlinuz02:26
wjasdwhere can i download a proper ones02:26
doobyanyone have problems with shutting down 6.10?02:26
doobymy pc just stalls02:26
cloakableNope02:26
ThePubintelikey: what's the deal with Sane btw?02:27
wjasdintelikey, ,what is the passwd02:27
zorglu_does edgy live cd has support for xgl/aixgl ?02:28
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wjasdwhere can i download vmlinuz and initrd.gz to start a kubuntu iso file  from hard disk02:29
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ylzEHLO02:30
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ylzdoes anyone know how I can start the text-mode installer out of edgy installation CD (desktop i386)02:31
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ehirdwheeee02:31
ehirdmy new livebox modem/router thingy works in linux out of the box with no configuration02:31
ehirdi am happy02:31
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ehird*dances*02:34
marc_Ok, firefox seems to be installed ... with what command can I start it?! *sry*02:34
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doobyfirefox02:34
BluesKajylz, ctrl+alt+F1 ( I think)02:34
marc_no...its not firefox .. :(02:35
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ThePubis there a place to tell kde to only open new windows on a certain screen?02:35
marc_somethings....strange :()02:35
BluesKajylz, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the GUI scrn02:35
doobystrange02:35
ylzBluesKaj: I get a usual text console... what's the startup name of the text-mode installer?02:35
doobyhere it works fine just typing 'firefox'02:35
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marc_mhrmf ...02:35
doobycan you find in your menuy list?02:35
marc_No!02:36
marc_Thats also disturbing me...02:36
ylzmarc_: try mozilla-firefox02:36
marc_doesnt work at all ...02:37
doobymaybe uninstalling en trying again?02:37
doobysudo apt-get remove firefox02:38
marc_mhm ... I hoped to passed that "M$-instalation-procedure" ;)02:38
doobysudo apt-get install firefox02:38
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doobyi believe that02:38
doobybut in your console it's not that much work02:38
dooby;)02:38
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marc_^_^02:38
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pedrocaubuntu br02:38
pedrocacomo uso?02:39
xwolf-'checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!'02:39
xwolf-how can i configure this?02:39
pedrocaquero acessar02:39
xwolf-pedroca o canal em portugues? #ubuntu-br02:39
pedrocavlw02:39
xwolf-!xlibs02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
xwolf-!x02:39
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:39
ylz!text-mode02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about text-mode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
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dooby@MArc_ maybe you could check whether your firefox is in your PATH variable02:40
BluesKajylz , isn't there a text mode install option on the live cd  bootup page ?02:40
doobyie check if your firefox is in the range of your PATH variable02:41
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doobytype echo $PATH and see if your firefox is in one of those dirs02:41
marc_Ok, I will try it...but back to the other problem ... I cant figure out (mb I didnt know enough about the *ubuntu "right-system"). When I start (from Menu -> Add/Remove Packages) Why are ALL Packages grey (and not slectable) except those who are already installed, and could be removed (ONLY removed)?!02:41
marc_Path ... mom02:41
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marc_Mhm ... no firefox in PATH .. thx for idea...02:42
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ylzBluesKaj: unfortunately no02:43
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BluesKajmarc_, type 'sudo apt-get update'02:43
marc_ok02:44
BluesKajthen,sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox02:44
marc_..working...02:44
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ThePubis there a reason kmail isn't part o fthe internet submenu on a default kde install?02:44
xwolf-'checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!' which package do i have to install to fix this?02:44
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llutzxwolf-: sudo aptitude install xlibs-dev02:46
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marc_oh many informations in german ... ^^ the main part: its not available, but referenced by another packet, the follwoing packets displace it: 'firefox'02:46
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marc_?_? strange behavior...02:48
francescoil canale italiano qual'?02:48
BluesKaj!it02:48
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:48
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dooby@MArc hmmm02:50
fabio_hi to all...02:50
doobyare these messages you are receiving02:50
xwolf-llutz thank you, it worked :)02:50
intelikey<ThePub> intelikey: what's the deal with Sane btw?     <<< idk.  i installed the prietary driver for the printer and scanner the printer works without a hitch  but the scanner all i can get out of it is   no device found  when i try to open [x] sane02:50
doobyhow does your etc/apt/sources.list look like02:50
marc_wait wait ...02:50
doobyok02:50
dooby:)02:50
fabio_someone can help me with a toshiba notebook. i must use toshset for setting brightness02:50
marc_NOW I am able to select applications to install?!?02:50
fabio_and other key fn02:51
marc_Why that? beacuse of the apt update?02:51
marc_Now I can "click" the firefox symbol in the GUI for apt .. strange... why are there some grey and not selectable ?!02:52
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marc_But its installing firefox ... a good start ;)02:52
doobyvery good02:52
intelikey!repos | marc_02:52
ubotumarc_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:52
doobythe update comand updates your apt-get database based on the sources.list02:53
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BluesKajmarc_, do you understand about the repositories that the pkg manager like adept use to find and install programs?02:53
xwolf-lol, now i need kde headers02:54
marc_"understand" ... mhm ... I understand the "principle" behind ... but not in great detail...02:54
xwolf-!kde02:54
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE02:54
doobythey store software on locations where you can easily retrieve ut02:54
BluesKajgood, it's a start , marc_02:54
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doobyusing apt-get of adept02:54
marc_Ok, thx all of you .... I think I need to read a bit more. :)?02:55
doobyis your firefow wroking ?02:55
doobyforefox02:55
marc_mhm ... mom02:55
marc_^_^02:55
dooby:)02:55
ehirdgoing to try QNX or something hardcore, brb livecd02:55
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marc_atm im updating via "adept updating", wouldnt it be a problem to start firefox now?02:56
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intelikeymarc_ no02:56
ThePubhmm, is there a way to put a hiding panel over the macos work-alike menubar across the top?02:56
marc_Well, but firefox is in the menu now ... wich is a good sign, isnt it? ;)02:56
doobyit sure is02:56
intelikeymarc_ yes02:56
doobyhope you get it running02:56
doobyi got to go02:56
marc_Oh cool ... its running :)02:57
doobyenjoy02:57
intelikeyactually that falls under the topic of openion...02:57
marc_-_-02:57
dooby:)02:57
dooby(y)02:57
marc_Thanks all of you!02:57
doobyciao02:57
marc_by02:57
marc_+e02:57
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baseicnn som kan hjlpa mig med mp3std?03:01
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ThePubWouldn't it be cool if you could put a KMail inbox/mail folder on your desktop and open it with a Konq window?03:02
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baseiccan anyone help me with mp3 support to kubuntu?03:02
Jucato!mp303:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:02
intelikeyThePub why couldn't you do that ?03:03
ThePubintelikey: so tell me, how?  I don't see a possible way :)03:03
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intelikeyThePub use maildir in place of mbox03:03
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ThePubintelikey: that wouldn't be routed through kmail.  you'd still have to have kmail open to have the folder managed03:04
pedrocaportugues... como fao?03:04
intelikeyset the folder to ~/Desktop/Mail/03:04
ThePubintelikey: and it's not a managed mail window, it's just looking at mail03:04
intelikeyyes03:05
pedrocaei caras... como coloco essa porra em portugues?03:05
intelikeyyour point ?03:05
ThePubintelikey: what you suggest is not what I said.03:05
Jucato!pt | pedroca03:05
ubotupedroca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:05
pedrocaobrigado...03:05
intelikey"if you could put a KMail inbox/mail folder on your desktop and open it with a Konq window?"  <--- looks like what you said...03:06
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ThePubintelikey: inferring you'd get all the management of kmail "magically", not jsut look at raw mail files.03:06
ThePubintelikey: it's not a kmail folder if it's a konq folder, it's just a view of the raw mail files03:06
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intelikeyThePub i think you missed the point of maildir03:07
ThePubintelikey: I think you miss the point of having a kmail managed folder?  :)  like I said, it's different03:07
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eilker!nfs03:08
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.03:08
intelikeyThePub what ever.   if you know so much tell me how to get this scanner working.03:08
ThePubintelikey: I would if I could.  What's email and scanning have to do with each other?03:09
ThePubintelikey: the key point was my emote about CyberDog, and if you have used it you'll understand what I mean :)03:09
intelikeythe use the same OS ?03:09
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intelikeyon the same box ?03:09
intelikey:)03:09
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ThePubintelikey: I asked earlier about Sane because I have some limited experience with it.  I used it about 10 years ago to setup some web cams03:10
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intelikeywell i wish i knew something about it atm....03:11
ThePubintelikey: so my experience with the software is very limited.  frontends at the time were very finicky though and it was important to make sure the sane commandline tools could read the source before diving in with it.03:12
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MarcC-linuxis there a way to fix the antialiasing of Kubuntu's fonts? It looks pretty bad here even with AA turned on with subpixel hinting.03:14
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omarI need help, I overwrite the first 512kb of the windows boot, and I can join to windows..........03:16
omarHow can I fix it?03:16
ThePubMarcC-linux: mine look beautiful :(03:16
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intelikeymaybe sane-utils will help ???03:16
MarcC-linuxThePub: ok, maybe I will try different fonts - I believe the Vista fonts are being used now03:17
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ThePubMarcC-linux: oh, yeah, definitely.  I noticed that with some of my Adobe fonts they look like garbage03:17
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omarSomeone can help me?03:18
MarcC-linuxIt just weirds me out that they look ok in gnome03:18
MarcC-linuxomar, fdisk /mbr ?03:18
ThePubMarcC-linux: hmm, that is strange.03:18
MarcC-linuxor just fixmbr03:18
omarMarcC, I new in linux, I dont know what are you trying tu tell me, I used a program called testdisk to rebuild MRB and it did not fix it.03:19
ThePubintelikey: I was looking for the sane email I used.. I never keep that sort of stuff archived very long :(03:19
ThePubanyone know the relation of khtml to webkit these days?03:20
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intelikeyThePub well sane-find-scanner finds it ok but xsane doesn't ...03:21
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ThePubintelikey: have you checked the supported devices list?03:21
MarcC-linuxomar, you rebuilt the mbr and it didn't work?03:21
MarcC-linuxthose are windows terminal commands to fix the MBR03:21
ThePubhttp://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html03:21
intelikeyThePub after installing the prietary driver ?03:22
intelikeyisn't that reinventing the wheel ?03:23
omaryes marc, Can I tell you all the history?03:23
ThePubintelikey: from the manuf?  suppose if they give you one it should work *shrug* not going to be any help, just double checking the troubleshooting done.03:23
omarI was trying to pass a file from linux to windows partition and I copy a file from linux to /dev/hda103:24
ThePubintelikey: I know from experience that a driver that you'd think would support your hardware, may not support it.03:24
omarthats overwrite the first 512 of the boot of windows partition03:24
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intelikeyThePub yes from brother.com  it's a .deb03:24
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intelikeyand the printer works flawlessly so i will go out on a limb and assume the the scanner driver is ok.03:25
omarThen I could join to windows, I reinstalled the ubuntu and after that, windows doesn't appear in the grub03:25
ThePubintelikey: two seperate subsytems :(03:25
wjasdwhat is the default passwd for kubuntu03:25
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intelikeyyes,  and all in one box.03:26
ThePubwjasd: whatever you set it to when installed the machine.03:26
intelikeywjasd there isn't one03:26
intelikey!root03:26
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:26
ThePubwjasd: if you mean "root", then sudo is your friend.03:26
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ThePubintelikey: have you checked out the howto?  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/index.html03:27
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ThePubintelikey: specifically, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/troubleshooting.html#INITIAL-HINTS03:27
intelikeynot that one in particular.  looking.03:27
wjasdi boot it as a livecd ,it let me input the usrname and passwd03:27
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pedrocacomo acesso ubuntu br?03:29
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ThePubok, what am I missing.. I right-click my panel and add another panel.. but I cannot seem to pull up a configuration window for it03:30
wjasdi boot it as a livecd from harddisk,and then can't log in03:30
JucatoThePub: you need to restart kicker. press Alt+F2, type in "dcop kicker kicker restart"03:31
omar__I need help jaja03:31
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ThePubJucato: ?03:31
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JucatoThePub: so that the option to choose which panel to configure (drop down list) will appear03:31
ThePubJucato: well, I get the panel, I can add stuff to it.. but I can't configure it's size and stuff03:32
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ThePuboh.. hmm03:32
JucatoThePub: read above03:32
Omarpbwho can help a new person in linux that made a mistke?03:32
ThePubyeah yeah, trying that :)03:32
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ThePubJucato: thank you :)03:33
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ThePubJucato: you wouldn't happen to know, would there be a way to force a new panel to be "over" the macos-esque bar?  My goal is to have a hiding bar that will pop over the menubar when the mouse visits the upper right corner.03:35
Blue_Dragonhi guys, i have got a problem starting the kubuntu 6.10 live cd03:35
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OmarpbI copy a file from linux to /dev/hda1 (windows partition) and I overwrited the firsts 512 of the boot partition, I did not how fix it, I can not join to windows, someone can help me?03:35
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danny500Jucato03:36
danny500check you gmail03:36
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marc_Oh Im still online ... I got another question.03:40
OmarpbI copy a file from linux to /dev/hda1 (windows partition) and I overwrited the firsts 512 of the boot partition, I did not how fix it, I can not join to windows, someone can help me?03:41
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marc_Who knows how to change the language of the firefox? I downloaded the german-package (for my mom) but after it ... also my browser appears in german ... which I really dont want. And switching back in the normal dialog doesnt change anything!? :(03:41
ThePubOmarpb: you copied it as root to /dev/hda1 directly?  O.o03:41
Omarpbyes03:42
hansOmarpb: boot from the windows CD and choose to repair the MBR03:42
Omarpbbut this is a laptop, the  cd of windows of the laptop does not have that option03:42
Omarpbthat disc erase all03:42
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ThePubmarc_: so you installed the localized german version and want another language?03:44
hansOmarpb: reinstall windows in that case03:44
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Omarpbbut if I reinstall, the system disc erase all, I need save some files that are very important03:45
hansOmarpb: copy those files to your linux partition03:45
marc_ThePub: No, at first my firefox was english (the menu and all that stuff) then, I downloaded the german-package ... and now ... its ONLY german03:45
OmarpbI can see all the files from linux03:46
Omarpbi Can't03:46
Omarpbsorry03:46
hansOmarpb: why not?03:46
OmarpbI dont know, I can see the partition from the terminal, but I can not access to my windows user03:47
ThePubmarc_: and you tried switching the language back to english?03:47
Omarpbwhere are the files that I need03:47
marc_ThePub: yea... several times ^^03:47
ThePubmarc03:47
ThePubmarc_: oops :(  ff info claims that will switch it back.  was just playing with it though because I've never done that :)03:48
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Rythan_nbn03:48
hansOmarpb: How are you trying to access them?03:48
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Omarpbfrom /media/hda103:49
Omarpbhans03:49
hansOmarpb: and you can not read the files?03:49
marc_ThePub: Sorry?  'ff info claims'03:49
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marc_ThePub: oups ... whats that? Never heard before...03:50
metresomarpb because you are not the root user...03:50
OmarpbI can not03:50
Rythan_lol03:50
Omarpbeven if I the root user03:50
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BluesKajmarc_, open FF , choose edit/preferences/general/advanced/languages/select a language too add...check in the list03:50
ThePubhmm, yay.. now my panels are unresponsive :(03:50
hanslol @ ThePub03:51
ThePubhans: ?03:51
hanshmm, yay.. now my panels are unresponsive :(03:51
Omarpbeven if I am the root user metres03:51
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josehola03:51
somdechhi03:52
ThePubhans: yes.. I fail to see the humor I suppose.03:52
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marc_BluesKaj: I tried that several times :(03:52
somdechhi guy i,m jsut come in03:52
metresOmarpb : weird have you tried sudo konqueror ?03:52
hansThePub: I like the "yay" followed by a negative, but then again I do have a weird sence of humor03:53
ThePubmarc_:03:53
BluesKajmust be a default language choice there , marc_03:53
ThePubmarc_: maybe just reinstall?03:53
OmarpbI cant see the folder documents and settings from konqueror03:53
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marc_I think its something in the config-files? Because my whole system is in german and I think ff just "switched" back to "local properties" ... but where can I adjust that parameter? ;)03:54
metresOmarpb : weird I saw it here...03:54
BluesKajThePub, marc_ wants to switch back and forth between german & english03:54
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ThePubBluesKaj: yes, of course, but it shouldn't force german as a default on an english locale setup.03:55
marc_right!03:55
ThePubI've never tinkered with languages in FF, but I just removed all my languages and installed japanese.. and it's still in english03:56
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hansmarc_: http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/switch-locales/03:56
marc_lol ...;) but ff switched immediatly to the new language pack ... but not back :(03:56
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BluesKajmarc_, whatever languge is at the top of your languages kist is the default one ...just make sure english is at the top03:57
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BluesKajlist03:57
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marc_It doesnt work BluesKaj, I also removed german from that list. And firefox still appears to think .. "ouh Im a german firefox" ;)03:58
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marc_Ah cool ...03:58
intelikeystill no scanner....   raz-a smacken' fratten' smacken' fratten'  </yosemite-sam>03:58
marc_hans: thx ... Im going to try that switcher03:58
ThePubJa Ja03:58
hansI have never tried it marc_03:59
BluesKajmethinks hans is right ...locales may be the way to do it03:59
beergutxlHi can anyone help me with amarok and mp3's for some reason it cannot play mp3 files riped using sound juicer03:59
BluesKajgotta DL the mp3 plugin for amarok04:00
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metresomarpb : I need registering...04:00
beergutxlIt will play downloaded mp3's just not the ones I ripped using sound juicer04:00
Omarpbfor what metres?04:00
Omarpbto answer me?04:01
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Omarpb./msg nickserv pass04:01
BluesKajmaybe sound juicer is putting copyright protection on the tunes04:01
beergutxlThe files play fine on musikcube on my girlfriends machine04:02
marc_Lol, here guys my solution: Start FF -> Tools -> Add-ons -> 'deactivate' the languagepack you dont want now -> restart FF ... (-_-) works well here04:02
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hansbeergutxl: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28amaroK.2904:03
BluesKajcool, marc_, good to know :)04:03
marc_thx all :)04:04
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jhonnyhola04:05
jhonnyalguien online04:05
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jhonnyquiero saber como manejar el cambio de escritorio04:06
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beergutxlTo be honest I probably need a more audio specific room I seam to have created some weird files that play in rhythmbox and claim to be Mp3's even file thinks so mplayer has this to say :04:07
beergutxlPlaying 01 - Psycho Killer.mp3.04:07
beergutxllibavformat file format detected.04:07
beergutxl[mp3 @ 0x874c3c8] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: mp2, 56 kb/s)04:07
beergutxlLAVF_header: av_find_stream_info() failed04:07
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intelikey!paste04:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:07
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aleksanteriok04:08
aleksanterii would need some help on kubuntu04:08
glug-bomrosaleksanteri:04:08
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aleksanterii am trying to boot from an ubuntu cd but it boots my windows xp instead04:08
aleksanterikubuntu*04:09
marc_aleksanteri: Are your sure that you have switched on the right "boot medium" search in your Bios?!04:09
intelikeyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35928/plain/  sane is insane04:09
glug-bomrosaleksanteri: did you change your BIOS settings to boot from04:09
glug-bomrosaleksanteri: CD-ROM / RW drive first?04:09
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aleksanteriyeah04:10
glug-bomrosaleksanteri: which CD-ROM/RW drive and motherboard do you have (version / brand / model number?)04:11
aleksanterilol how would i know?04:11
CVirus!dosbox04:11
ubotudosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (edgy), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB04:11
aleksanteriok :P04:11
glug-bomrosaleksanteri: didn't you note while purchasing? or is it a branded computer from (HP / Compaq, Dell?)04:11
marc_aleksanteri: Have you tried the CD on another Computer? Maybe its not bootable at all? (Wrong image burn/checksum something else)?!04:11
hansaleksanteri: You need to burn the CD as an immage04:11
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aleksanterioh04:12
aleksanterii will try :P bbl04:12
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marc_:)04:12
glug-bomrosaleksanteri: yes, that's one more option04:12
BluesKajnot everbody at once04:12
aleksanteribecause i just downloaded the *.iso file, burned it and booted it04:12
aleksanteribbl04:12
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BluesKajhhmm, it should have booted if his cdrom is #1 in the BIOS boot sequence04:13
hansBluesKaj: not if the CD itself was not burned properly04:14
BluesKajppl forget to save their changes upon exit in BIOS04:14
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hansyeah we do04:15
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furianociao04:15
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piotruswitam jest ktos?04:17
aleksanteriback04:17
BluesKajsometimes  ppl do forget , not always04:17
aleksanteriit can't boot from that cd either04:17
intelikeywhy does kcontrol > peripheals   not have scanners in it ?04:17
aleksanteriand i also read a bit of the log04:17
aleksanteriit IS the CD04:17
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hansaleksanteri: Can you boot from a windoze CD?04:17
glug-bomrosaleksanteri: was that a CD-R?04:18
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aleksanteriyeah it was04:18
BluesKajaleksanteri, are you sure the BIOS is set for cdrom boot first . ?04:18
aleksanterisadly :(04:18
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aleksanteriBluesKaj: yeah i'm sure04:18
BluesKajok04:18
marc_be happy thats that was the prob :)04:18
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BluesKajbummer about the bad burn04:18
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aleksanteri:D but now the thing is that is it either my burning device or the cd itself?04:19
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aleksanteriitself. *04:19
wilmani have a problem with audacity04:19
marc_Another question: Does anyone of you know, if I install any program, does the debian package work everytime on *kubuntu?04:19
hansaleksanteri: How did you burn the CD?04:19
aleksanterii used the window's builtin burner04:19
aleksanteriit has worked before04:19
wilmani have a problem with audacity04:19
wilmanwith the sound04:20
mc__marc_: debian packages are not guaranteed to work on ubuntu04:20
wilmanit says no I/O device04:20
hansaleksanteri: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/e-smith/docs/howto/CD_burning_howto.html04:20
marc_ah thx04:20
mc__marc_: in fact it's quite likely that they break04:20
aleksanterithx04:20
marc_mc__: should I try ... it or download "normal" sources and try to compile them? Whats the best solution?04:20
mc__marc_: what package do you need?04:21
marc_I want that game: http://www.reto-schoelly.de/mahjongg3d/index.html04:21
mc__marc_: alright,firtst try try the debian package04:22
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hanswilman: what version of ubuntu?04:23
marc_mc__: thx .. Ill try it04:23
wilman6.1904:23
BluesKajintelikey, strange as it may seem try system settings/user management/admin mode/secondary groups/enable/apply  ..this might pickup your scanner on the next reboot ...just a thought :)04:23
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wilmanit did work before on my computer but that was my previous install04:24
intelikeyBluesKaj ???04:24
hanswilman: did you reinstall or upgrade?04:24
intelikeyBluesKaj i'm trying as root....04:25
wilmanit says : there was an error intializing the audio 1/o layer you will not be able to play or record audio04:25
wilmanreinstall04:25
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hanswilman: could be that there is a problem with switchin from/to oss or alsa04:26
wilmanhmm i don't really know04:27
wilmanis that easy to solve?04:27
hanswilman: I would have a play with those if I where you04:27
wilmanok04:27
hansI don't use amarok, or audacity04:27
hansI have mplayer ;)04:27
wilmani want to record04:28
wilmannot play04:28
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hansok04:28
BluesKajis anyone here running Google Earth successfully with an ATI onboard graphics fglrx driver ?04:29
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ThePubBluesKaj: what do you mean by onboard?  I'm using google earth with 8.31 fglrx on my 9700 card04:29
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TheGateKeeperBluesKaj, try the sabayon livedvd it's got google earth on it04:30
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TheGateKeeperI think it will install the ati drivers by default04:31
hanswilman: cat /dev/sndstat04:33
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wilmanhmm04:33
wilmanok04:33
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wilmanthe stat is good04:34
wilmanno synthesiser anable04:34
wilmani can't copy04:34
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hanswilman: dd bs=8k count=4 </dev/audio >sample.au04:35
trappistBluesKaj: not at the moment, but I have before04:36
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Schuenemannhow can I make the windows key open the K menu?04:38
wilman4*0 records out04:38
Schuenemannusing dapper04:38
wilman4*0 records in04:38
wilman33 kb copied04:38
hanswilman: cat sample.au >/dev/audio04:38
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wilmandevice or recource busy04:40
BluesKajThePub, TheGateKeeper, trappist, .. I'm using an ATI onboard express200 and the google earth GUI flickers every second or so as if it's refreshing ,very distracting04:40
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hanswilman: hmm04:41
TheGateKeeperBluesKaj, well try the live dvd see if there is any difference04:41
hanswilman: I give up04:41
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wilmanperhaps you can help me with something else04:42
wilmancause it is a little dificult working with a broken console04:42
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hansI will try04:43
wilmanwhen i start konsole04:43
hansI am just a newbie though04:43
wilmanit makes an error04:43
wilmanin kde04:43
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hanswhat is the error message?04:44
wilmansignal 404:44
wilmansiggil04:44
wilmansigill04:44
hanssigkill?04:44
wilmanno04:44
wilmansigill04:44
hanssignal?04:44
wilmanthe application Konsole crashed and caused the signal 4 (SIGILL)04:45
hansok04:45
llutzwilman: means "illegal instruction" (man signal) but no idea why04:45
ThePubBluesKaj: how about other opengl apps?  thought I read somewhere that the express support is fairly new, maybe it's a known issue?  google earth on the 9700 is working like a top though, as good as it did in windows.04:45
wilmanhmm04:45
wilmani can bactrace04:45
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makisok04:46
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Schuenemannhow can I make the windows key open the K menu? using dapper04:47
BluesKajThePub, it's aknown issue in edgy ...google earth worked ok in dapper on this pc ..dunno what they changed but it made things worse fo GE04:47
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ThePubBluesKaj: sucks that ATI treats us linux users like second-class citizens :(04:48
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wilmanUsing host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".04:48
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wilman[New Thread -1232123584 (LWP 6102)] 04:48
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wilman[KCrash handler] 04:49
wilman#6  0xb6754a8b in TEWidget::fontChange () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_konsole.so04:49
wilman#7  0x00000042 in ?? ()04:49
wilmansomething with font04:49
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Red_Tear!suse04:49
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)04:49
BluesKajThePub, it just comes with the terrirory ...now thet ATI is owned by AMD maybe we'll see a bit more support ... one can only hope04:49
wilmanhaha Ati is owned :P04:50
ThePubBluesKaj: lol, it definitely can't be any worse :)04:50
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ThePubBluesKaj: Personally, next machine I build will have an nVidia card since I have an on-off relationship with linux, going back to Windows for MMOs mostly.04:50
BluesKajwilman, ATI was bought out by AMD04:50
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wilmani know :P04:51
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wilmanis there an alternative for konsole?04:51
ThePubxterm?04:52
BluesKajyeah , I bought this box cuz it was a good deal, 600canuckbucks ,for Compaq Presario SR1734X04:52
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ThePubgnome-console? :)04:52
hanswilman: [Ctrl] [Alt] [F1] 04:52
ThePubrxvt04:52
wilmanyea but you cant copy from there04:52
hanswilman: [Ctrl] [Alt] [F7]  to get back04:52
BluesKajThePub, NVidia cards aren't out of the woods yet with Ubuntu set ups either04:53
hanswilman: have you been playing with fonts?04:53
wilmanuu i have installed some04:54
ThePubBluesKaj: for normal display they work as good as an ATI card, but the main thing is nVidia seems to have more interest in actually doing some basic linux support.04:54
wilmanbecuase i had to have one but i didnt know wicht04:54
wilmanbut i never chanched settings04:54
ThePubBluesKaj: Although, for non-accelerated graphics on ATI the open-source drivers are really good.04:54
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hanswilman: you can change the fonts from the kde settings04:54
wilmanhehe but the easiest solution works04:54
wilmani reinstalled the programm04:55
hanshaha04:55
Schuenemannanyone know how can I make the windows key open the K menu? using dapper04:55
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BluesKajyeah ThePub, I'm not a gamer ... i like eye candy alright tho04:55
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hansSchuenemann: have a look at edditing /etc/console-tools/remap04:56
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ThePubSchuenemann: kconsole -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts -> panel -> popup launch menu04:57
ThePub?04:57
hildolfurHi all! I've got a problem with the twisted package from kubuntu, people at #python think it's a distribution related problem and pointed me here.04:58
Schuenemannlet me see04:58
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ThePubit's mapped to alt-f1 by default I think04:58
hildolfurhmm, maybe #ubuntu is better to ask04:59
Schuenemannouch, it was so bad translated...04:59
intelikeyone would have to make win NOT a modifier key before one could use it as a stand alone shortcut key04:59
SchuenemannThePub: can't I set it just to the windows key?04:59
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ThePubwell, sounds like a personal problem then05:00
Schuenemannintelikey: how to make it not a modifier key?05:00
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intelikeySchuenemann idk.05:00
ThePubget yourself a decent IBM Model-M 101 key keyboard and there's no need to worry about it!  ^^05:00
SchuenemannI don't use a US keyboard05:01
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Schuenemannit has to be Win + something05:01
intelikeyThePub i like using the windows keys to switch consoles05:01
intelikeybeets alt+f#05:01
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intelikeySchuenemann there is a way to define what the modifier keys are but don't ask me how.05:02
ThePubyour x keymap is going to have to do with out x sees the keyboard05:02
intelikeySchuenemann snoop around in kcontrol you might find it05:02
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ThePubhans: suggest /etc/console-tools/remap05:03
ThePuboops.. hans suggested that ;)05:03
ThePubhans: will that affect an X session?05:03
intelikeyThePub yes but without remapping the keys you can set what kde uses for modifier keys.05:03
intelikeyand "<hans> Schuenemann: have a look at edditing /etc/console-tools/remap"  i don't think that will affect X.05:04
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ThePubhey, here we go05:05
ThePubhttp://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/SuSE_notes/node73.html05:05
ThePubSchuenemann: http://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/SuSE_notes/node72.html then --> http://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/SuSE_notes/node73.html05:06
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Schuenemannthat file has only a commented line05:06
ThePubSchuenemann: google "kde windows key"  ^_^05:07
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SchuenemannI did... all I found was people asking that without receiving an answer05:08
hanstry setting the menu in "system settings/Computer administration/keyboard and mouse"05:08
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ThePubSchuenemann: maybe read further?  I just gave you two links from the first page of that search that can be adapted directly :)05:09
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weswh-how do i unmount a partition that i mounted?05:09
llutzweswh-: umount /mount/point05:09
SchuenemannThePub: but japanese?05:09
hansThe "key" you are looking for is "Popup Launch Menu"05:10
weswh-sudo unmount /media/drive?05:10
ThePubweswh-: sudo umount /path/to/location05:10
weswh-cool05:10
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ThePubSchuenemann: no one said it's perfect, but as I said.. it can be adapted.05:10
weswh-thepub - do you think the power management features are there if i wanted to unmount a drive, and then power it off?05:10
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Schuenemannhans: but it does not accept the win key stand alone05:10
ThePubweswh-: hell if I know :)05:10
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Schuenemannok, I'll read it05:10
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ThePubSchuenemann: there's nothing wrong with educating yourself on a subject.  Sometimes that requires more than just looking at something, picking out one word, and deciding that's not for you.05:11
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Schuenemannok, ok05:12
BluesKaj!ATI Drivers05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ATI Drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
BluesKaj!ATI05:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:13
hansSchuenemann: Yeah same here05:14
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ninnghizidhaHello! I am using ubuntu, but installed kubuntu then. I like it, but i wish i could use the original Ubuntu-USplash-Screen .... got some hints for me how to change this back?05:26
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BluesKajninnghizidha, use the system settings/spalsh screen options05:28
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trappistninnghizidha: or, sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so05:29
ninnghizidhai am not talking about the KDM splash screen ... i am talking about the splash, that hides the bootup-text05:29
ninnghizidhaah! :))05:29
ninnghizidhathis sounds good!05:29
ninnghizidhawillt ry it ... just a moment!05:29
SchuenemannThePub, hans: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id255276805:30
Schuenemannvery simple :)05:30
hanshttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_alternate_boot_splash_screen05:31
ninnghizidhaha! thanks! this looks great! :))05:31
trappistninnghizidha: :)05:31
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hansSchuenemann: that worked nicely05:37
hansSchuenemann: thanx05:38
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Schuenemannhere too =] 05:38
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GK_Hakanssonhi i need the lines that allow me too use php in apache05:47
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chopin|pc!last.fm05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about last.fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
chopin|pcanyone using last.fm on their machines?05:48
hanschopin|pc: never heard of it05:48
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chopin|pcah.  :-|05:49
bthibaultfor whatever reason I have to versions of flash installed when I do "about:plugins" in FF05:49
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bthibaultanybody know how to select one or the other05:50
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hanssudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree05:51
hanssudo update-flashplugin05:51
marc__Has anybody an idea why the login-screen doesnt show me the list of users (in my case 2) although I modified the properties in the users dialog?05:51
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digitalfreedomthey may set to hidden05:51
digitalfreedomor invisble05:51
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digitalfreedomoh ok you edited it05:52
Jucatomarc__: the KDM theme overrides the settings in the Login Manager05:52
digitalfreedomsorry05:52
marc__ahh, how can I override, the overrides of KDM? ;)05:52
digitalfreedomany one know the kubuntu version of tracert from konsole?05:52
zero-codehi i'm new to this can any one help05:52
digitalfreedomwell zero whats the malfunction05:53
Jucatomarc__: you either: 1) look for a KDM theme that has a user list, or 2) turn off the KDM theme (say bye bye to fancy menus/effects)05:53
bthibaulthans: update-flashplugin ?05:53
bthibaulthans: not sure there is a command for that05:53
digitalfreedomits apt-get bth05:53
hansworked for me05:53
zero-codeamarok is not working well05:53
marc__Jucato: mhm .. no other possibilities? I "need" the effects its an OS for my mum!05:53
digitalfreedomwhats wrong with amarok?05:54
zero-codeand aMule is always going off05:54
Jucatomarc__: only the login effects will be gone (like the fancy icons and stuff)05:54
zero-codeit plays music for sometime and just stop05:54
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UncleDrugdigitalfreedom:  sudo apt-get install traceroute05:54
digitalfreedomthanx UD05:54
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zero-codegreat05:55
digitalfreedombamo its worked05:55
zero-codethanks05:55
marc__Jucato: What EXACTLY is the KDM? ..I thought it is the whole KDE system? But this seems not the case?05:55
JucatoKDM = KDE Display Manager. basically it handles your KDE sessions, specially the login screen05:56
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Jucatoit's part of KDE, that is, KDE uses KDM (just as GNOME uses GDM)05:56
digitalfreedomi should have thought to install it...i had to install finger and whois already05:56
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Jucatomarc__: so turning off the KDM theme doesn't affect your desktop in any way. just the login screen05:57
marc__Ah .. cool05:57
marc__And how can I switch it?05:57
zero-codeyeh also can you help me setup and make our user group on compus work well(winneba university ghana)05:57
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ninnghizidhaIt seems that kopete cant send Umlauts .... someone got that problem too?05:58
digitalfreedomwhats Umlauts?05:58
ninnghizidha and these things05:58
digitalfreedomoh special chars05:59
ninnghizidhai need those in my tongue :P05:59
tazzeni am new05:59
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tazzenis this a multi chat ?05:59
digitalfreedomi can do the tongue06:00
marc__Just ask your question tazzen06:00
tazzenthanks06:00
digitalfreedomhahah @ marc06:00
ninnghizidhaits from icq to icq.06:00
digitalfreedomoh well i dont use icq06:00
marc__If anybody know the answer ... she/he will answer you06:00
digitalfreedomhavent in years06:00
tazzenannyboddy know a MSN kopi in here ?06:00
digitalfreedomwe wil ltry our best T06:00
tazzenwhat can I use ?06:00
digitalfreedomehhh i think maybe aMSN06:00
digitalfreedomor use kopete06:01
marc__Does anybody know how to switch my KDM and which other can I use?06:01
tazzenthank u06:01
tazzeni will try that06:01
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digitalfreedomnp T06:01
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llutzmarc__: gdm, xdm06:01
marc__does gdm ... also work with KDE?06:02
llutzsure06:02
tazzenc u later an thanks06:02
ninnghizidhait does.06:02
marc__hm ... so simply apt'en and start?06:02
marc__Or where do I need to adjhust which kdm/gdm I want to use?06:03
ninnghizidhajust apt-get it, it will ask you what to use afterwards06:03
marc__ah thx06:04
marc__ok ill try it06:04
digitalfreedomapt-get rules06:04
ninnghizidhaif not, just type  dpkg-reconfigure gdm.06:04
ninnghizidhait does, yes.06:04
digitalfreedomwhen i had mandriva i bout went crazy hunting for stuff06:04
digitalfreedomno i just apt-get everything06:04
Jucatomarc__: it's possible. but I think there are some disadvantages in using GDM with KDE06:04
digitalfreedomor open synaptic06:05
marc__jucato: why?06:05
marc__whoups??06:05
marc__whats that?06:05
Jucatomarc__: because GDM isn't built to work (flawlessly) with KDE. I think that using GDM doesn't allow you to end or switch sessions. iirc06:05
digitalfreedomwhats what?06:05
Jucatohis ghost06:05
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marc__Oh I had a ghost ...06:06
marc__Ok, back to topic, I do understand you right, that no one, who uses KDM has a List of useres with avatars? :(06:06
Jucatomarc__: um.. no. you got it wrong....06:07
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Jucatomarc__: KDM, by default, has a login screen/box with a list of users with their avatars (if they have one)06:07
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digitalfreedomswbell ?!?!?!06:08
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Jucatomarc__: however, KDM *themes* sort of hide that login box, and displays their own box06:08
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digitalfreedomanyway did anyone get the ruby update other than me?06:09
=== Jucato did
trappistI did06:09
digitalfreedomdid you do it? im skeptical of it06:09
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Jucatoyes I did06:09
digitalfreedomno problems?06:10
trappistdigitalfreedom: it's a security update for the CGI module06:10
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trappistdigitalfreedom: no problems here (and I use ruby all day)06:10
digitalfreedomsee i dont know this stuff so i mean im skeered to do it06:10
marc__sry, was afk...tel06:10
digitalfreedomwhat is this ruby?06:10
trappistdigitalfreedom: programming language06:11
marc__ahh..that means only that I have to switch the theme ... nothing else? :)06:11
digitalfreedomok well then im lost as far as programming06:11
digitalfreedomi stink at it06:11
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Schuenemanntrappist: you're using rails06:11
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Schuenemannthat was a question06:12
trappistSchuenemann: sometimes, yeah06:12
digitalfreedomis there a way to edit konsole commands? i mean say to make ls -a mean rm -r?06:12
trappistdarkangel: 'alias'06:12
Jucatomarc__: like I said, you can either switch to a KDM theme that has that list feature, or turn of the KDM theme06:13
marc__Jucato: Ok, now I got the point ... thx ... I m looking for another also "eye-friendly" scheme ;)06:13
Jucatomarc__: kde-look.org and good-luck06:13
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mc__marc__: did the 3d mahjong work?06:14
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marc__mc_: no ... the debian package wasnt found (404) and the sources got some error while extracting them...06:15
marc__mc__: I didnt tried to figured it out again .. because I havnt that much time, so i just emerged Kcolorlines an Kmahjnong ;)06:16
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hansemerge on kubuntu?06:16
marc__lol .. sry :)06:17
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marc__Where I study Im using gentoo ... and here at home I first installed (today) ubuntu ..06:17
hansok06:18
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hansI tried gentoo last week, gave up after three days unsuccesful updating06:18
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marc__ouhh ... ?06:19
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hanstried installing from the live CD :(06:19
hansI am too much of a newbie I guess06:19
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marc__Mysterious? Well I changed my theme ... and now I try to get a user-list at the login  .. c u soon ;)06:20
Jucatoerr...06:20
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benner_Hi everybody, i am still trying to fix my video problem. after installing flgrx for my asus radeon x1600, i rebooted and i get this jumbo font problem..video accelleration and resolution seems to good but cant do nothing at this size :)  screenshots: http://66.130.215.56:81/1.jpg  http://66.130.215.56:81/2.jpg  http://66.130.215.56:81/3.jpg06:21
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Dr_willis'jumbo font' as in - its using a very low resolution?06:22
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silvaniawhats up with everytime i update kubuntu something breaks on my system? now OpenGL is randomly lagging or so06:22
benner_no it is in 1024x768@75hz06:22
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marc_re ...06:23
marc_:(06:23
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silvaniacould it be a problem after i updated X server?06:24
marc_What exactly is a/the scheme .. *shameonme*06:24
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marc_And where can i switch it? Thought it was the window decoration and so on?06:25
Dr_willisbenner_,  that is a large font. :) even my wife could see those letters06:25
Dr_willis!fixres06:25
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:25
Dr_willisbenner_,  may want to reconfigure your X. Never seen your exact problem befor.,06:25
Dr_willisbenner_,  since its affecting KDM as well.. thats really odd.06:25
hansxwindows does not need root does it?06:26
llutzhans:  -s :)06:26
benner_Dr_willis: yes it is!! ;) .. i tried ,to reconfigure xorg already.. still same thing.. what's weird is if i reboot in recovery mode and startx manually, its work fine an flgrx is active and working fine06:27
benner_ubotu: is that answer is for me?06:28
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rexbronhello, is there a place where I can find out why a package is in multiverse?06:29
GK_Hakanssonis here any body who got the "php lines" to put in the apache config file?06:30
Jucatorexbron:06:30
Jucatorexbron: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components06:30
Dr_willisbenner_,  could just not use kdm, and boot to the console and use startx. :)06:30
Jucatorexbron: usually it's because the package depends on something in multiverse (non-free license)06:30
Dr_willisbenner_,  or kill off KDM, and try startx - see if the same issue happens06:30
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hansrexbron: good question, I always wondered why there are different repositories as well06:31
aibhow do I list information about installed packages from the command-line ?06:32
Jucatoaib: apt-cache show <package>06:32
benner_Dr_willis: can you explain how? i am new to kubuntu but not so  goofy :)06:32
mc__aib: apt-cache show packagename06:32
rexbronit is more of I need to find a reason that it is in multiverse for a spicific package06:32
aibthanks06:32
Dr_willisbenner_,  go to the console, and       sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop06:33
syntaxxcan i use ubuntu repositories even im using kubuntu?06:33
hanssyntaxx: yes06:33
Dr_willisbenner_,  then try 'startx'  - if that starts up X normally... well.. that impies that somthing kDM is doing is goofy06:33
syntaxxhans: ok thanks.. how can i change my splash to kubuntu? i migrated from ubuntu to kubuntu-dsktop06:34
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benner_when i type that, says: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not  found)06:35
GK_Hakanssonis here any body who got the "php lines" to put in the apache config file?06:35
hanssyntaxx: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_alternate_boot_splash_screen06:35
syntaxxthanks06:35
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syntaxxhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades <-- to upgrade to edgy?06:38
benner_Dr_willis: when i type that, says: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not  found)06:38
Dr_willisbenner_,  go to the console, and       sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop06:38
Dr_willisbenner_,  heh -  or perhaps xdm stop06:39
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benner_Dr_willis: both command not found06:40
Dr_willisbenner_,  what EXACTLY are you typing06:40
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benner_Dr_willis: oups wait i did that in a console from x06:40
Dr_willisconsole = the alt-ctrl-f1 Console.. not "Konsole" the terminal program. :)06:41
benner_yes exact.. let me try06:41
Dr_willisif you booted to rescue mode then KDM/GDM isent running. :)06:41
King_Bradthe Kernel Source for kubuntu 6.06 is  linux-source(uname -r) correct?06:41
syntaxxhow can i upgrade kubuntu dappet to edgy? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades is this the site to do that?06:42
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benner_exact i am in recovery mode using startx command.. because i cant do nothing in the default boot methot due to the font problem06:42
heinkel_111why are there so many updates today?06:42
Dr_willisbenner_,  then this testing will prove nothing.. :)06:42
Dr_willisbenner_,  ya could START kdm and see if the problemn happens now06:43
Dr_willisbenner_,  go to the console, and       sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start06:43
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Dr_willisbut since ya got X going allready... that wont help much06:43
King_Bradok i have linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 in /usr/src/ , do i need to extract that so i can compile my audio drivers?06:43
hanssyntaxx: just change all occurences in /etc/apt/sources.list from "dapper" to "edgy", do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade06:44
benner_yes exactly on!!! the x loaded and i have those jumbo font06:44
benner_seems to be kdm06:44
Dr_willisbenner_,  very freaky.. you can disable KDM from starting at a normal boot time by removing the file         /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm06:44
Dr_willisthen ya can just login and use 'startx'06:44
Dr_willisNo idea what KDM could be doing to mess with that. could be some odd fglrx/kde bugglet06:45
benner_maybe everybody told me they never seen that06:45
llutzmaybe wrong dpi-settings06:45
hansonly two updates today06:45
hans6 or so yesterday06:45
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hanstaday it;s only ruby, there was a "denial of service" bug found in ruby06:47
benner_llutz: i tried something the other day about that.. dont remember this command06:47
King_Bradwhats the command to rename a folder from konsole?06:47
llutzbenner_: you can change /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc to set dpi for kdm06:47
mc__King_Brad:  mv06:47
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benner_Dr_willis: if i remove that file, can i add the startx command to be autorun ( like as autoexec.bat) :)06:47
King_Bradty06:48
King_BradPlease install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution <--- how do i do this????06:48
Dr_willisbenner_,  dont bother - just use startx.  :)06:48
Dr_willismv foo bar06:48
llutzKing_Brad: what driver do you need to compile?06:49
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King_Bradmy audio drivers llutz06:49
llutzKing_Brad: usually its ok just to install linux-headers and build-essential06:49
King_Bradi installed linux-source06:50
King_Bradfor my kernel....06:50
King_Bradbut it doesnt like that... maybe linux-headers are needed?06:50
llutzKing_Brad: linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:50
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King_Bradso apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:51
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King_Bradwill do the trick?06:51
llutzKing_Brad: it should06:51
King_Bradk06:51
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King_Bradthanks06:51
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yannick Hi, i search french canal for Kubuntu06:51
llutz!fr06:51
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:51
yannicktks06:51
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benner_llutz: what im i suposed to check in the kdmrc file? this is very long06:53
llutzbenner_: mom, have to check06:54
King_Bradawsome that worked!!! thanks llutz06:54
llutzKing_Brad:  ur welcoome06:54
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llutzbenner_: line example sets dpi to 117 (my notebook): ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 11706:57
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ovejanegrahello everybody06:59
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ovejanegracan anyone help me to configure Screen Properties on a dell 640m ?07:00
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Dr_willis!fixres07:01
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:01
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Dr_willisovejanegra,  what properties you refering to anyway?07:01
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llutzDr_willis: you'll need lots of time, it's f*ing slow :(07:01
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benner_llutz: i dont have nothing with dpi in this file.. and i tried to paste yours in mine and do nothing07:02
ovejanegrathanks... I'm trying to set the screen resolution to 1280x800, but i can't07:02
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ovejanegrai'm new to kubuntu, so any help will be great...07:03
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eric_it may not have autodetected your monitor so its using generic settings.07:03
eric_if you go to system settings then monitor and display07:04
eric_find out what kind of card and monitor your running at set it up there.  also when your done you have to restart the x server.07:04
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ovejanegrai'm using a laptop... already tried to change resolution from system settings, but the option for 1280x800 is not there. Max is 1024x72007:05
eric_that may be as high as you can go then, it will give you different resolution choices depending on what type of display and driver you have.07:06
hyper_chhow can I see how many users are logged into a computer?07:06
hyper_chor rather who those users are?07:06
llutzhyper_ch: who07:06
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Dr_willisovejanegra,  what video card is in that laptop?07:07
hyper_chllutz: what does this mean:07:07
hyper_chhyper    :0           2006-12-03 16:4107:07
hyper_chhyper    pts/0        2006-12-08 17:49 (:0.0)07:07
Dr_willisllutz,  the users thats who... :)07:07
Dr_willishyper_ch,  try 'man who'07:07
vgesomeone can explain me why i need to reboot to make my eth0 to work?07:07
Dr_willisvge,  who told you that.07:08
llutzDr_willis: hmpf, usually i'm called the "man-man" bcus forcing world to read those :)07:08
vgeDr_willis: well, i dont seem to get any other way working07:08
vgenetwork restart nor ifup/ifdown dont do the trick, is the others?07:09
hyper_chDr_willis: man who doesn't give any info on what the output means07:09
llutzinfo who07:09
Dr_willisvge,  so what yo mean to say is 'who do I have to reboot to get my eth0 working' ?  we cant really tell much - with such little information.07:10
hyper_chllutz: info who returns the same as man who.... a list with options...07:10
Dr_willisoops 'why do i ...'07:10
ovejanegrait says i810... it's a Intel 945gm integrated07:10
eric_does that match what the computer actually has.  my monitor and driver had to be setup manually because it didn't autodetect the right settings.07:10
benner_Dr_willis: i deleted the /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm and kubuntu freeze in the kubuntu blue bootscreen07:10
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Dr_willisbenner_,  strartx now freezes?07:11
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paulwhyper_ch: try 'man w'07:11
llutzovejanegra: sudo aptitude install 915resolution && sudo 915resolution -l07:11
ovejanegraok, i'll try that now07:12
llutzovejanegra: does it show you a 1280x800 mode?07:12
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benner_Dr_willis: i deleted the file and rebooted, i got the blue bootscreen with the progress bar, and freeze there.. i can even type startx07:12
llutzovejanegra: many intel-graphic bios are buggy07:12
ovejanegrasudo: 915resolution: command not found07:13
llutzovejanegra: read what i typed07:13
lmhey there. can anybody give me their perspective on, what filesystem i shoould convert my 300 gb usb hdd to, so that i can easily read it from both linux and windows?07:13
lm*should07:13
ovejanegrasorry, I'm a newbie...07:13
llutzl,ext307:13
trappistlm: vfat07:13
llutzlm ext307:13
lmllutz: is that on readable from windows?07:13
llutzlm there is a driver on fs-driver.org07:14
lmtrappist:  what is that? never heard of it07:14
Dr_willislm,  with the IFS stuff - windows xp can read/write to ext2/3 partitions07:14
llutzlm vfat=fat3207:14
Dr_willisthats what llutz  is refering to.. it works very well for me.07:14
trappistlm: it's fat32.  linux refers to it as vfat.  it's the filesystem they usually ship with07:14
llutzfor me too07:14
Schuenemannyou write ext2/3 from windows?07:14
Schuenemannis it safe?07:14
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  i imagine its safer then ntfs wriging under linux. :)07:15
Dr_willistheres some limitations to it.. but for a 'data' drive it works decently well for me.07:15
lmok... which of the has the best and safest converting tecknique?07:15
Schuenemannthat doesn't mean it's safe heheh07:15
Dr_willisLife is not safe07:15
eric_can anybody suggest a good php or perl file manager?07:15
llutzlm: converting with existing data on? none07:15
Schuenemannwriting fat from linux is safe07:15
ovejanegrai can't get "sudo 915resolution -l" to work... thows an error message07:15
lmllutz: thats a shame07:15
ThePubwriting the skinny isn't though!  :)07:16
lmllutz: not even fat32?07:16
Schuenemannif you have a power down while converting... wasted07:16
llutzlm: now it's ntfs? don't know if converting to fat32 works07:16
lmhmm so i guess the only good altenative now is ext3, huh?07:17
Dr_willislm,  depends on exactly what you want to do.07:17
ovejanegraok, i got it now:  Mode 5c : 1280x800, 32 bits/pixel07:18
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ThePubntfs isn't terrible.. just not considered stable :)07:18
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ovejanegrawhat do I do now?07:18
llutzovejanegra: grep "1280x800" /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:18
k-oshThePub: api-stable or production-stable?07:18
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ThePubOver the last week I did some heavy read/write with the ntfs tools from edgy and never had an issue.  Not that'd I'd stake my life on it or anything though.07:19
Dr_willisHorse Stable07:19
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lmDr_willis: my drive is right now ntfs, and as far as i know, the 3g ntfs driver has VERY slo writing speeds.... thats why i thought, that converting it would make it alot easier07:19
ThePubAnd you're definitely better off using ntfs in windows than something else.07:19
k-oshDr_willis: I can think of another horse-related expression about ntfs...07:20
Dr_willislm,  proberly will.07:20
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ovejanegrallutz, do i have to restar x now?07:20
Dr_willisOf course I rarely boot to windows any more07:20
llutzovejanegra: stop, what did grep say?07:20
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ovejanegrallutz,  Modes           "1280x960" "1280x800" "1280x768"07:21
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llutzovejanegra: hm, then "it should" work, no idea why not07:22
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llutzovejanegra: try to restart X, just press alt-control-backspace07:22
ovejanegraok, i'll try that now07:22
chjuniorow, kubunto is beautiful07:22
trappistdidn't man used to respect the MANPAGER env var?07:22
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freakout4321hi everybody07:23
styvyhi07:23
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freakout4321hmm, nice place07:24
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hanshia freakout432107:24
ovejanegrallutz, it works perfect now! Thank you very very much...07:24
freakout4321hey hans07:24
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freakout4321the iggy master huh07:24
hansnot in here07:24
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ovejanegra llutz, it works perfect now! Thank you very very much...07:26
llutzovejanegra: fine07:27
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knithxWhen i boot the live CD, after the kubuntu logo i gets freezed with a black screen, and nothing happens. I am using ATI. What can i do?07:29
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benner_Dr_willis: after erased /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm when i boot into normal im i supposed to stay in cosole mode? or is it normal i see the blue kubuntu logo bootscreen?07:33
k-oshanyone good with lvm here? I get a kernel panic when booting my machine now. Seems to load some things and then _whammo_, Full stop.07:33
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k-oshThe error msg is "Cannot open root device". and "Please append a correct root= boot option". Anyone seen something like that?07:34
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k-oshThis might have happened during a kernel upgrade? Like lilo not being run afterwards perhaps?07:35
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ovejanegrabye, and thanks for the help!07:36
Dr_willisbenner_,  you are proberly refering to the 'splash screen' not the KDM login screen.07:37
Dr_willisbenner_,  i always disable that useless eye candy. try hitting escape or apt-ctrl-F207:37
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benner_yes it load the splash screen and freeze there before the login screen07:37
Dr_willisTheres some key seqnence ya can hit that turns off that splash screen. It may  be just going to the console and showing a LOGIN: you cant see07:38
benner_because i deleted the /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm07:39
Dr_willistry hitting alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 to see if you can get to a console.07:39
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benner_nope doesnt work07:40
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Dr_willisI would boot to the 'rescue mode' and fix grub where its not hiding stuff. so you can see the error messages..07:40
Dr_willisedit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file  and change07:40
Dr_willis# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)07:40
Dr_willis#hiddenmenu07:40
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benner_ok let me try07:41
Dr_willisthat way you SEE the grub menu every time.. and then also change.  line.07:41
digitalfreedomhow do install a .package file extension with apt? or can i?07:41
Dr_willis# defoptions=quiet splash07:41
Dr_willisto read    # defoptions= nosplash07:41
paulwk-osh: take a look here, might help:  http://kerneltrap.org/node/97007:42
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Dr_willisthen rerun   'sudo update-grub' to make the changes take effect.07:43
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benner_and i restart in normal boot?07:44
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Dr_willisreboot command, :)07:45
Dr_willisyep07:45
Dr_willisthat 'should' disable the splash screen, and show you the GRUB menu also.07:45
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Dr_willisTHEN we can do some trouble shooting07:45
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benner_same thing.. the splash appears again... but i get me grub menu.. i can choose from normal, recovery and winxp07:46
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Dr_willisyou get the grub menu, you select normal, you then get a splashlogo?07:47
ubuntu_#hellas07:47
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benner_yes07:47
cntb #hellas?07:47
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benner_oups wait i think the menu.lst havent save... having dificulty with vim :)07:48
Dr_willisif you can see the grub menu, (or hit escape to see it) you can hit 'e' to edit the boot lines and append 'nosplash' to the end07:49
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jasonHi all. I have a grub setup for XP and Kubuntu which was working fine until I added a new hard drive. Now I'm getting Grub error 17, but if I boot off the Kubuntu CD and choose 'Boot From First Hard Drive" I can get into Linux fine. Any ideas?07:49
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ErikTheReddoes anyone know of a software for connecting to a sony ericsson phone in linux?07:49
Dr_willisgrub 'reorders' the drives depending on where that new one got installed to. it may have the hd#,# entrys incorrect07:50
benner_ok to wich line? root kernel initrd quiet etc..07:51
hansDr_willis: sounds like it to me07:51
Dr_williskernel= whatever.................................  nosplash (or change splash to nosplash)07:51
jasonSo how would I get it back to the 'old' order?07:52
Dr_willisjason,  other then removing the hd... you should reconfigure grub..07:52
Dr_willisGRUB is one of those tools thats worth learning and learning well.07:52
Dr_willis:)07:52
benner_ok no splash works.. im in the benner login:07:52
Dr_willisbenner_,  so it wasent 'hanging' it was just not removing the splash logi.07:53
Dr_willislogo. :)07:53
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Dr_willisand its time for me to go to work...07:53
jasonWell, since my Kubuntu install was rather new I just reinstalled Kubuntu thinking it might re-write grub and it didn't. So just try editng grub.conf?07:53
Dr_willisat least now ya can boot to the login: and use 'startx'07:53
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Dr_willisjason,  'try' ? heh heh .. 'edit it correctly'07:54
Dr_willisjason,  also your device.map may be incorrect now.07:54
benner_ok thanks you very much! it work now... just have to login.. ill use it like that ;)  THANKS07:54
Dr_willisbenner_,  thats how i set mine up anyway :)07:54
Dr_willisbb in 8 hrs........07:54
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aleksanteriO_o i took a look into the kubuntu cd08:02
aleksanterifound out that it was empty! :O08:02
ThePubkonq sure does a pretty nice job rendering, it gets a little close with some of the css div stuff, but it has nicer lines than firefox.08:02
ThePubkonq as a web browser :)08:02
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jasonHmm. How do I get a list of hard drives?08:03
jasonfdisk -l08:03
jasondoesn't work.08:03
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mducharmeof mounted HD?08:04
jasonYes.08:04
jasonWell, I'm trying t see if the device.map is right or not.08:05
llutzsudo fdisk -l or df -h (only mounted partitions)08:05
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mducharmedf -h or "mount"08:05
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memikephow do i upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 using terminal?08:06
ThePubjason: it could just be as simple as moving your new disk "behind" your old one08:06
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jasonThe thing is, though, I don't even get the grub menu before I get error 17.08:07
ThePubjason: that's because the order and priority has probably changed.08:07
jasonSo changing them in the device.map should fix it?08:09
ThePubI was thinking even easier.. just change where they're plugged in :p08:09
aleksanterigotta boot Kubuntu now...08:09
aleksanteribbl08:09
ThePubjason: meh, don't listen to me.  I'm all for the 'easy' solution :)08:09
jasonHeh. Well, that involves the screwdriver. :)08:10
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jasonBut if I do get the order correct in device.mp that'll fix my error 17?08:10
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platypusi am using kubuntu on my machine and i notice that xorg cpu usage is abnormally high08:12
platypusalways around 100%08:12
platypusplease help08:12
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platypusmy cpu is a duo core athlon XP08:12
xwolf-!convert08:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:12
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jasonOk. Well, thanks. I'm off to reboot.08:13
hansplatypus: that is extremely high08:13
platypushans: yeah has anyone experienced the same thing ?08:14
platypus 4159 root      16   0  337m  58m 5172 R   69  6.2  35:02.55 Xorg08:14
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xwolf-i need to download this 'convert' program08:14
xwolf-where can i find it?08:14
dumat2Alguien sabe para cuando vuelve la web kubuntu-es08:15
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hansplatypus: never08:15
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platypus:(08:16
hans 3997 root      15   0  108m  35m 5112 S  2.0  3.7   9:42.67 Xorg08:16
platypuswonder what's wrong08:16
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platypushans: yours is a dual core ?08:17
metresHi all need a little help, I'd like to install Frozen bubble 2 on AMD64 it required some features like "Perl, SDL, SDL_image, DSL_mixer, SDLPerl and SDL_Pango" do someone know if these package are set by default ?08:17
hansplatypus: nope I am poor08:17
dumat2en fin, ya me enterar08:17
platypushans: what display card are you using ?08:17
hansAMD Sempron(tm) 2200+08:17
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ThePubplatypus: I don't have any issues with it either.08:18
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platypusThePub: yours is a dual core ?08:18
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aleksanteridoesn't work :(08:18
ThePubplatypus: no :(  just using a P4 2.8Ghz08:18
platypushmm08:18
platypusprolly prob on the 64 side08:18
xwolf-i need to download this 'convert' program. where can i find it?08:18
Schuenemanndumat2: kubuntu in spanish? it's available08:19
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ThePubxwolf-: convert what?08:19
platypusxwolf-: try ImageMagick08:19
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majnoonhaving some trouble setting up pci video card08:19
SlimGwhat is the default samba port?08:19
dumat2la web ha desaparecido hace una semana aproximadamente08:20
xwolf-ThePub it just says convert.08:20
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ThePubxwolf-: what's "it"?08:20
Schuenemanndumat2: la descarga del kubuntu?08:21
platypusxwolf-: it's part of imageMagick08:21
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xwolf-ThePub "it" is the buildset.sh file for an icon set. i'm gonna try imagemagick like platypus said.08:21
hansSlimG: grep netb  /etc/service08:21
hansSlimG: grep netb  /etc/services08:21
ThePubxwolf-: sounds like there's your answere ^^^^08:21
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platypusxwolf-: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php08:21
platypusread !08:21
majnoonlspci says it is an ATI RV10008:22
dumat2Schuenneman: no, un foro muy bueno que ha desaparecido08:22
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Schuenemannahh...08:23
aleksanterikubuntu doesn't boot :(08:23
llutzmajnoon: xorg-driver should be "ati" oder "radeon"08:23
hansaleksanteri: give it the boot then08:23
ThePubati driver does all the varieties08:23
ThePubit'll automatically load radeon if it's the right one.08:24
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aleksanterihans: how? :P08:24
hansaleksanteri: dropcick it ?08:24
hansaleksanteri: nm, just trying to be funny08:25
aleksanteri...08:25
majnoonit no detect card :(08:25
aleksanterii don't see the fun point in that :|08:25
hansaleksanteri: does it boot from the live CD?08:25
aleksanteriyeah i burned it myself08:25
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hansaleksanteri: did you boot from that?08:25
Schuenemannhans: in windows, the win key is a modifier key and it works stand alone too... do you think that's possible in kde too?08:25
aleksanteriyeah08:25
aleksanterii also made it boot from the cd08:26
Schuenemannaleksanteri: did you try the media check?08:26
aleksanteribut it doesn't work08:26
hansSchuenemann: why not try it?08:26
aleksanteriSchuenemann: what do you mean?08:26
Schuenemannaleksanteri: maybe the cd wasn't recorded well08:26
aleksanterii fear one thing08:26
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hansaleksanteri: and kubuntu came up when you booted from CD?08:26
aleksanterino08:27
aleksanteriwindows came up08:27
Schuenemannhans: if "try" means test in control center, it's not possible hehe08:27
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hansaleksanteri: did you burn it as an image?08:27
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aleksanteriyeah08:27
aleksanterian iso file, put on the disk and burn08:27
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Schuenemannwas the cd executed when you booted?08:27
aleksanteridunno08:28
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aleksanterii didn't see anything08:28
majnoonllutz i put output of lspci at majnoon.org/lspci.txt08:28
hansSchuenemann: I have not tried08:28
aleksanterii guess it wasn't08:28
Schuenemanndid you choose to boot from cd, on setup?08:28
llutzmajnoon: frames  :(08:28
hansaleksanteri: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/e-smith/docs/howto/CD_burning_howto.html08:29
aleksanterii read that already08:29
hansaleksanteri: can you boot from a windows install CD?08:29
aleksanteridunno08:29
hansaleksanteri: try that08:29
aleksanterii don't remember where i put it :P08:29
majnoonjust a sec llutz08:29
hanslol08:29
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Schuenemannon setup, you have to choose the cd-rom as the first boot device08:30
majnoonllutz try http://68.232.152.98:8000/lspci.txt08:30
llutzmajnoon: better :)08:30
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llutzmajnoon: http://rafb.net/paste/results/YWxZdV87.html08:32
llutzmajnoon: try those entries in you /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make a backup b4)08:32
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llutzyour08:34
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l0g0ffciao qualcuno sa come faccio per installare kvirc?08:34
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llutzmajnoon: look into your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors08:36
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aleksanterican't find it :|08:36
majnoonok me TRY08:36
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gan|y|medhi08:36
gan|y|medfinally online again!!!08:37
Schuenemannl0g0ff: sudo apt-get install kvirc08:37
aleksanteribut what i can tell you is that i tried a kubuntu cd before, it booted correctly but it turned out to be corrupted. so i think that it's the iso file :|08:37
aleksanterithat's what i feared08:37
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gan|y|medis sth. wrong with the ubuntu servers????08:37
Schuenemannaleksanteri: maybe it's the cd08:37
aleksanterior the burner08:38
Schuenemanncheck the md5 of the ISO, if it's ok, then it's the cd08:38
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hansaleksanteri: next time try to checksum the iso08:38
Schuenemannfirst time I downloaded the iso was ok, but the cd wasn't08:38
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aleksanterihow do i check the md5?08:38
hanson windows there is a program calld md5summer or something08:39
Schuenemanntype md5sum iso_file_name08:39
aleksanteriok08:40
majnoonllutz try http://68.232.152.98:8000/xorg.conf08:40
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gan|y|medok, let me rephrase the question: are the servers down as i am not able to connect to ANY of the above links (didn't try paste)?08:40
majnoonsays undefined device08:41
aleksanteriSchuenemann: it can't find the md5sum program08:41
minombrebuenas noches08:41
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Schuenemannaleksanteri: sorry, I think you were using linux08:41
aleksanteri:p08:41
Schuenemann!md5summer08:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about md5summer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:42
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hansubotu: are you a bot?08:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:42
aleksanterilol08:42
Schuenemannhehe08:42
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Schuenemannwww.md5summer.org08:43
reeferhello08:43
aleksanteriSchuenemann: ok08:43
majnoon!ATI08:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:43
hansubotu:08:43
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llutzmajnoon: sry, no idea then08:44
majnoonthanx08:44
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hansubotu: me08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
llutzmajnoon: the newer ati-driver won't work with rv10008:44
aleksanteriok08:44
reeferim trying to install kubuntu on a compaq presario 1400 but it ends with a black screen and amouse cursor in the middle and the mousepad doesnt work.. is a compaq presario1400 supported or whateve by kubuntu ?08:44
aleksanteriSchuenemann: this will take a while08:44
hansreefer: did it boot ok from the live CD?08:44
Schuenemannyeah... big file08:45
aleksanteri716 KB08:45
aleksanteri716 000 KB *08:45
SchuenemannI mean the iso08:45
aleksanterii know :P08:45
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aleksanteri716 704 KB to be accurate08:45
reeferhans you mean safe mode ?08:46
hansreefer: no boot from the CD08:46
reeferi see a menu with some options start /install/check cd  but i dont know how to boot live08:47
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hansreefer: can you go on the net from the laptop now?08:48
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reeferno08:49
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Hexidigital_anyone here using bcm43xx-fwcutter and network-manager-kde experiece dropped networks with wifi?08:49
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hansreefer: is kde up and going then?08:50
zismucholaaaa08:50
reeferhans no im stuck at the boot menu08:50
zismucspanish??08:50
majnoonsays no device detected :(08:50
hansreefer: try start08:51
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dumat2zismuc hola08:51
reeferim trying safe mode now but it takes a while heh08:51
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aleksanteriSchuenemann: results ;)08:52
aleksanterithe ISO is OK08:52
aleksanteriso it's the CD08:52
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Schuenemanndid you chose to boot from cd, on setup?08:52
aleksanteriyeah i did08:52
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aleksanteriwell this is logical; microsoft is so crap08:53
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Schuenemannwas it executed?08:53
aleksanteridon't know, i don't think so08:53
Schuenemannno noises from the cd spinning, lights?08:53
aleksanteriyeah those were seen/heard08:53
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aleksanteribut nothing about Linux was shown08:54
RawSewagehow do you connect to a remote server host with konsole again08:54
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benner_i just installed SMB4K to access to my server shares.. and everytime i mount a share it's dissapear 1 sec after without been mount. or i get a su error.. i remember i already had this problem but dont remember what i did before08:54
Schuenemannit's weird... I don't know08:54
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RawSewagebenner_, you have to install samba08:54
aleksanterii tell you something; i have been watching a successful linux installation. it hadn't had this problem08:54
aleksanteriand it was Kubuntu08:54
sb9 hi, another question, i want to mount a disk 1.44MB in linux which can be read by a windows system - what filesystem do i have to choose ?08:55
Schuenemannwell, I'd try burning another cd08:55
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aleksanteriyeah ok08:55
hanssb9: fat08:55
aleksanteriand i also try Nero burning software08:55
aleksanterii have nero 508:55
sb9-t fat ?08:55
hansyep08:55
aleksanteribut i have problems but i think i will be able to overcome them...08:55
sb9thx08:55
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RawSewagealeksanteri, why dont you use k3b08:55
Schuenemannhe's using windows08:55
aleksanteriRawSewage: huh?08:56
RawSewageoh08:56
aleksanteri:P08:56
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sb9only vfat is possible08:56
hansuse that08:56
RawSewagehow do you connect to a remote server host with konsole again08:56
RawSewageit's very simple, but I forgot08:56
sb9i did, it seems to work08:56
SchuenemannRawSewage: does k3b unlock protected cds/dvds?08:56
RawSewageSchuenemann, k3b is for KDE, not Windows08:56
sb9thx a lot08:56
SchuenemannI know, but does it?08:56
hansRawSewage: ssh -l user hostname/hostIP08:57
RawSewageidk08:57
aleksanteriwell08:57
RawSewagehans, ty08:57
aleksanteriwhatever was the case, i will use Nero08:57
hansRawSewage: yw08:57
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aleksanterilmao explorer crashed :P08:58
Schuenemannexplorer sucks a lot08:58
aleksanteriyeah08:58
hanswell nothing is perfect (yet)08:58
aleksanterinothing by microsoft is perfect and will never be :P08:59
Schuenemannspecially IE08:59
aleksanteriyeah especially IE08:59
aleksanterii am personally Opera addicted :P08:59
SchuenemannI like firefox08:59
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VSpikeOpera is great08:59
Schuenemannbecause of the extensions08:59
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aleksanteriwell :P08:59
aleksanterimany us at the opera community hates firefox :P09:00
hansSchuenemann: same here09:00
hansaleksanteri: and why is that?09:00
aleksanteribecause firefox is their worst opponent09:00
RawSewageinterestingly enough, a few weeks ago I performed the Acid test on Firefox and Konqueror.  Firefox didnt pass.  Konqueror did09:00
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llutzSchuenemann: firefox is nearly unusable without those extensions :)09:00
VSpikefirefox is better now than it was when it first came out09:00
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SchuenemannI disagree... it's unsable09:01
Schuenemannwithout the extensions, it's the same as opera :D09:01
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hansaleksanteri: only reason I did not like opera is because it was not free09:01
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aleksanteriit's free now09:01
SchuenemannI mean it's NOT unusable09:01
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llutzhans firefox isn't free too09:01
hansyes it is, but now firefox is here09:01
aleksanteriyeah09:01
aleksanteri:( opera was too late09:01
Schuenemannfirefox is open-source09:02
apokryphosfirefox is free and open source09:02
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aleksanterii know09:02
llutzif firefox would be free, debian wouldn't have to call it iceweasel ;)09:02
apokryphosopera is only free as in price, not as in liberty09:02
hansllutz: how do you mean?09:02
hanshaha09:02
llutzthere are unfree parts in, so it isn't free09:02
aleksanterihmm should ask them why it's not open-source :|09:02
hansapokryphos: yeah09:02
Schuenemannanybody here tried swiftfox? it's an optmized firefox09:02
Schuenemannfor linux09:02
hansI love the ff plugins09:02
hanslike addblock plus09:03
trappistsigh.  firefox is free.  but if you change it you're not supposed to call it firefox anymore.09:03
VSpikethe reason opera ppl don't like firefox is sour grapes.. opera was around for ages being better by miles than IE, and when firefox came out, everyone was talking about firefox in the media and among joe user09:03
reeferhans i tried booting in safe mode .. but the result is the same I see a black screen with a black mousecursor in the middle and nothing seems to be happening09:03
VSpikeat least, that was the reason I didnt like it for a long time :)09:03
trappistbut, this is appropriate for #kubuntu-offtopic.  this is a support channel.09:03
hansreefer: in that case I doubt kubuntu is for your laptop09:04
SchuenemannI've read it's about 80% faster on 64bit processors and 40% on 32bit ones09:04
hansreefer: try mepis instead, it's based on kubuntu, but has more drivers09:04
reeferhm ok thanks09:04
sparrwhow do i make the damn kde busy cursor go away sooner when im doing things like opening a page in firefox from another app?  i doubleclick the link in irc or email and it launches firefox, which is smart enough to open the link in the old window, but the new invisible window and the busy cursor stay for 30 seconds09:04
aleksanteriwell my story is that i had ie, but it started crashing, i got netscape and firefox which took too long to download and the only choice left was opera. after it i never looked back.09:05
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aleksanterinote i had an old computer with win98 then09:05
VSpikegood point.. i cme with a question.  Why have the icons on my KDE panel suddenly decided to spread themselves out to a ridiculous extent such that 6 application icons and the KDE menu icon take up about half the screen at 1600x1200?09:05
Schuenemannhttp://www.getswiftfox.com/09:05
aleksanteritook too long to load up*09:06
VSpikeAnd how can I persuade them to snuggle up again?  Trying to drag them together makes it worse.  They repel like similar poles of a magnet and in fact end up spread out even more, crushing the task bar part up09:06
aleksanteriwell09:06
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aleksanterii will go becuase i need to do something on another comp, related to Nero. bbl09:07
aleksanteribecause*09:07
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ThePubany suggestions of a kde compliant wm that has a rigid window placement policy related to the last window position?09:07
VSpikeAlso, is there any way to alpha sort the KDE menu?09:08
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trappistThePub: kde's window placement policy is highly configurable09:08
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ThePubtrappist: really?  beyond the drop down that apparently doesn't configure anything?09:10
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hansubotu: anything09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:11
hanshehe09:12
VSpikeis KDE's screensaver really as broken as xscreensaver website makes it out to be?09:13
VSpikeit certainly wouldn't work for me -- I installed xscreensaver and disabled kscreensaver and now all is well.09:14
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easytigerthis bullcrap filesystem thing in *ubuntu 6.10.. how do you turn it off09:15
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LynoureIs gnupg safe in Dapper or why does the security announcement only mention Edgy?09:18
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LynoureFrom what I read  versions before 1.2.1 should be affected, so Dapper too09:19
ThePubeasytiger: what's the issue?09:20
Lynoureoh, there it is...09:20
easytigerThePub: i just hate it lol09:20
VSpikeit's always hard to know when you get no reponse to questions whether you're asking the wrong questions, or asking them in the wrong way, or whether simply no-one knows the answer09:21
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easytigerVSpike: thats irc for you09:22
VSpikeyeah.. should be used to it by now :)09:22
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easytigeri;d say i get a usefull answer to 15% of questions09:22
VSpikenormally if you do ask a stupid question people helpfully respond rtfm or utfs :)09:23
majnoontrying to install an ATI rv100 video card (no luck) it doesn't detect the card but lspci SAYS it is there09:23
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VSpike#ubuntu and #kubuntu are better than many09:23
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ThePubmajnoon: you've run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and went through it making sure you chose the ati driver?09:24
majnoonyup09:24
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majnoondoesn't even "recognize" the card09:25
majnoonThePub: you in X ??09:25
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ThePubso what errors do you get when trying to run startx?09:25
majnoonit SAYS no devices detected09:25
VSpikethe solution I found on the panel was to remove everything and then put it back :)09:26
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VSpikea bit harsh but it worked09:26
Schuenemanneverytime I run a program through konsole I get lots of errors... what could that be?09:26
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SchuenemannX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16609:26
VSpikeSchuenemann: what program?09:26
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Schuenemannany program09:26
ThePubmajnoon: could you link a pastebin of your errors?09:27
Schuenemannkate, firefox, amarok....09:27
Schuenemannthe program seems to work well, though09:27
SchuenemannFailed to open device09:27
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VSpikeSchuenemann: when I got stuff like that it was a whole load of "wacom" stuff in xorg.config that just needed to be commented out09:27
majnooncan you tell me WHERE to look ??09:27
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njendeHowdy Folks09:28
SchuenemannVSpike: can I copy the error to you private? it's big09:28
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twinstarsbonjour09:28
njendeSchuenemann: use pastebin09:28
njende!paste09:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:28
ThePubmajnoon: can't tell you where to look if don't know where the issue is.  the ati driver "just works" usually.  if lspci shows it as there, then it should "just work"09:28
twinstarso it's the english channel ^^09:28
majnoonThePub: you have a browser that can do frames ??09:28
twinstarsdo you can help me ?09:28
njendetwinstars: about what?09:29
twinstarseuh09:29
ThePubmajnoon: well, I'm using konq.. suppose that supports frames, why?09:29
twinstarsi'm under Mandriva 200709:29
twinstarsand i need help to install a program09:29
VSpikeSchuenemann: like you said the programs ran fine09:29
majnoonmajnoon.org/paste i put lspci info there09:29
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njendetwinstars: what about if you would ask your probs in the mandriva channel?This Kubuntu09:29
VSpikeSchuenemann: I'm no expert.. it would mean nothign to me.. i found the answer by googling the exact error i got.09:29
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majnoonand xorg.conf09:30
SchuenemannVSpike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35953/09:30
arturhow to change computer name in kubuntu dapper ?09:30
Schuenemannhmmm ok09:30
easytigeryea.. its just excess xorg stuff. mostly harmless09:30
Schuenemannthey seem to work fine09:31
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majnoonThePub: where are the X error logs ??09:31
artur123?09:31
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llutz /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:32
majnoongot it09:32
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ThePubmajnoon: what llutz said, making coffee :)09:32
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brkhey09:33
brk:)09:33
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majnoonok llutz i have the logs and etc at http://68.232.152.98:8000/paste/09:33
VSpikeSchuenemann: I get the "QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter" from Kate every time09:34
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VSpikeI googled it and it seems to be common and harmless09:34
ThePubmajnoon: you have installed the fglrx driver?09:34
[lele] hey i need a lil help....i want to install vidalia....but configure says  Vidalia requires Qt 4.1.0 or greater. You may need to install09:34
ErikTheReddoes anyone know of a software like daemon tools or alcohol 120% for linux?09:34
ThePubmajnoon: what's your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file look like?09:35
SchuenemannErikTheRed: burn cd? k3b does it09:35
SchuenemannVSpike: well, I can live with that =] 09:35
majnoonThePub: i have the logs and etc at http://68.232.152.98:8000/paste/09:35
easytiger:wq09:35
ErikTheRedcan k3b handle more than just .iso files?09:35
easytigeropps09:35
majnoonLOTSA pci info09:35
llutzmajnoon:try : BusId "PCI:1:9:0"09:35
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ErikTheRedi have some backups i made with alcohol but they're in the mdf/mds format09:35
majnoonok will TRY09:36
VSpiketrouble with this for non-experts is its like principle in coding about getting rid of all your hints and warnings during builds, so that when an important one shows up you actually notice it rather that it getting lost in the noise of harmless ones09:36
SchuenemannI don't see this format here09:36
ErikTheRedyeah i don't see it either09:36
VSpikeErikTheRed: I'm sure I saw something about how you just mount an ISO file directly in linux as a block device09:36
ErikTheRedyeah i've done that before09:36
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ThePubmajnoon: change the line "Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0] " 0 0"09:37
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ErikTheRedit's just the other formats that I'm having trouble with09:37
ThePubmajnoon: it should be "Screen "Default Screen"09:37
llutzVSpike: mount -o loop -t fsystem image.iso /mount/point09:37
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SchuenemannErikTheRed: do you know a program that unlock blocked cds?09:37
Schuenemannprotected ones09:37
ErikTheRedhuh?09:37
Schuenemannsome cd/dvd are protected and can't be copied09:38
main2i got a .dat file here, which i need to use - but i have no idea in what format the file is09:38
Schuenemannin windows there is a program called anydvd that unlocks them09:38
ErikTheRedoh09:38
main2i tried 'file' but that says that its 'data', not really helpfull either09:38
ErikTheRedyeah i'm not sure of a linux equivalent for that09:38
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ErikTheRedsimilar to what i'm looking for, mainly for games09:39
main2is there a way, to automaticly find out in what format .dat file is?09:39
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ErikTheRedi like to take images of my games so i don't have to bring all the cds with, but it looks like i'll just have to use no-cd cracks or something09:39
llutzmain2: "file"  ;)09:39
njendemain2: .dat is a dos/redmond file extension09:39
jef_quit09:39
styvySchueneman, i burn them raw, but you need a burner that supports raw (like some plextors)09:39
[lele] so....any help about Qt ?09:40
njendeDasnipa`: Howdy... ;-)09:40
main2njende: its invented in the dos time yes, but that doesnt tell me anything more ..09:40
ajopaul_i have two sound cards one pci and one onboard how do i make one the default!09:40
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njendemain2: AFAIR it was also used by dbase09:41
njendemain2: use google09:41
Schuenemannstyvy: where can I find one?09:41
llutzmain2: .dat ist used by lots of apps just for unspecified data-files, so i don't think there'll be a way to get more info about09:41
ThePubmajnoon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35956/09:41
main2njende: nahh.. ive used dbase 12years ago last time09:41
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main2njende:  im not gonna google for that09:41
main2llutz: yes indeed, i wonder if there is something more advanced then 'file' :/09:42
llutzmain2: i don't think so09:42
[lele] i want to install vidalia....but configure says  Vidalia requires Qt 4.1.0 or greater. You may need to install09:43
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njendemain2: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=.DAT09:43
majnoonsays no matching device found09:43
njendemain2: http://ask-leo.com/whats_a_dat_file.html09:44
ubuntuhow do i get my Grub back? i installed windows after linux and it messed me up09:44
majnoonfound it09:44
ryanakcawhy does apt* keep on crashing with a sigsev? backtrace : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35927/          I've reinstalled apt and libc6 and rebooted as well to try to fix the problem. I've remove /var/lib/apt/lists/*, same problem. run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a, same problem09:45
njendemain2: giving google "file extension dat" it took google 0,4secs to throw out heaps of explanations09:45
majnoondownload it ??09:45
ryanakca!grub ubuntu09:45
ubotugrub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB09:45
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ryanakca!grub | ubuntu09:45
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:45
ryanakcaoops..., sorry :)09:45
njendemain2: so, basically, if youe to lazy to do make your won researches, why should we do that?09:45
main2njende:  yes that page says .dat 'Can be just about anything' >> thats why i wonder if there's a program/tool (more advanced then file) which can09:45
main2njende: ur just bothering me, and not being helpfull at all09:45
majnoonThePub: download it ??09:46
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njendemain2: http://ask-leo.com/whats_a_dat_file.html09:46
ThePubmajnoon: download?09:46
main2that page says .dat 'Can be just about anything' >> thats why i wonder if there's a program/tool (more advanced then file) which can help me?09:46
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user__hi09:46
majnoonthe paste page09:46
majnoontry THAT for xorg.conf ??09:47
ThePubmajnoon: all it looks like is your screen line in the server layout is wrong.  it's calling an fglrx setup, which could have some issues.  just use the open source setup you have.09:47
user__i just got this kubuntu thing, and would really like to be able to view flash...09:47
user__can anyone help me?09:47
Hawkwind!flash | user__09:47
ubotuuser__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:47
njendemain2: "... if you don't know what application created the file, there's no way to know how to open it."09:48
ThePubmajnoon: so really the only import change would be to go into your xorg.conf and comment out the screen line and add below it:  Screen "Default Screen"09:48
ThePubs/import/important/09:48
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llutzmajnoon: check if fglrc supports RV100, IIRC it won't09:48
SchuenemannErikTheRed: http://freshmeat.net/projects/mdf2iso/09:48
ThePubllutz: it doesn't, which is why I asked him to make that change to xorg :)09:49
llutzThePub: ups, sry09:49
ErikTheRedthanks Schuenemann09:49
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majnoonThePub: in "Screen" section ??09:49
ThePubllutz: he has it all set up right, it's just calling the wrong screen09:49
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ThePubmajnoon: "Server layout" there's a line name "Screen"09:49
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user__I downloaded the flash plugin for firefox, but can't get it to work.09:50
ThePubmajnoon: it's the first 'section' in your xorg.conf file right now.  says:  Section "Server Layout" ...09:50
majnoonchanged that getting same type error09:51
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hans!test09:52
ubotuFailed.09:52
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hanshaha09:52
ThePubmajnoon: *shrug*  all the things are in place.  maybe remove the pci line from the device "ATI RADEON v1000"09:52
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njendemain2: http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/file_extensions/dat.cfm09:52
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main2njende: nahh, thanks for looking a long - but what i do know is:09:53
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main2that its used as text in a program09:53
njendemain2: what?09:53
majnoonwill try09:53
njendemain2: so its a binary file?09:53
styvySchuenemann, sorry, been afk for a moment,; k3b supports raw writing, like nero does09:53
user__i can't find the firefox plugin folder...09:54
main2njende: in the end, every file is binary09:54
Schuenemannstyvy: that's for removing the protection?09:54
main2njende: to me, it simply looks like its slightly compressed09:54
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njendemain2: wow...thanks for telling me; the question behind it is if you are able to open it i.e. with vim09:54
Schuenemannuser__:  ~/.mozilla/plugins09:54
user__thanks.09:54
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majnoonTHAT DID IT me think09:54
majnoonbrb09:55
gan|y|medhi09:55
Frederickfolks I managed to set up accents and brazilian characters for gtk applications but it doesnt work for open office, any ideas?09:55
heinkel_111if i change my default shell (in edgy) to bash, will taht make some trouble?09:55
njendeFrederick: ypou09:55
main2njende: i can open it with vim09:55
njendeFrederick: you may need to install the brazil language packs09:56
Schuenemannuser__: sorry, it's not that... you have to through ~/.mozilla/firefox/...09:56
njendeFrederick: ass09:56
ThePuboops, he needed to apply llutz suggestion to his other ati configuraiton09:56
njendeFrederick: assistant09:56
ThePuboh well :)09:56
njendefredereick09:56
gan|y|medit's beena long time since i did set up grub last time. how is the video option for changing the number of lines during boot-up (the one with the tux image)?09:56
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Fredericknjende: wich is it name?09:56
majnoongetting weird lines in X though09:56
njendeFrederick: if you click on File09:56
njendeFrederick: then on assistant09:57
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majnoonThePub: it SEMI working09:57
njendeFrederick: its the wizard ;-)09:58
majnoongetting weird lines in kde now09:58
ThePubmajnoon: so what's your xorg.conf look like now?09:58
llutzmajnoon: only 100% counts ;)09:58
styvySchuenemann, thatt's for copying a protected cd, the copy is a clone, so it's still protected09:59
multifumsg nickserv register09:59
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majnoon68.232.152.98:8000/paste/  changed log10:00
majnoon*xorg.conf10:00
Schuenemannstyvy: there's a windows program called anydvd that removes the protection so you can copy... is that the same?10:00
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styvyno, it's just reading and writing raw data, so that the protection don't work10:01
styvydoesn't10:02
JohnFluxwhat's the x module called for "direct video"10:03
JohnFluxdga?10:03
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JohnFluxWhen I run xawtv  I get X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode10:03
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sergio__oi10:04
majnoonThePub: you see anything wrong still ??10:04
majnoonthe box SAYS it a nvidia geforce mx400010:05
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njendeFrederick: still here?10:05
njendeFrederick: http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html10:06
sergio__yes10:06
sergio__oi10:06
njendeFrederick: or you may want to join the openoffice.org channel @ freenode10:06
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njendemain2: where and how did you get the *.dat file?10:07
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ThePubmajnoon: except lspci clearly says it's an ati, eh?10:07
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majnoonYUP10:08
njendeFrederick: !ping10:08
mildnerplease send me the german ubuntu link10:08
njendemildner: huh?10:08
njendemildner: what german ubuntu link?10:08
ThePubmajnoon: maybe start removing stuff that isn't necessary, idk.  if it's work, then the card is apparently responding.10:08
ThePubmajnoon: can comment out dri, glx in files10:09
mildnerI think here is only kubuntu....isn't it....my system is ubuntu10:09
ThePubmajnoon: double-check your monitor sync/refresh numbers to make sur ethey're correct for your monitor10:09
njendemildner: so just change the channel to ubunut10:09
njendemildner: so just change the channel to ubuntu10:09
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njendemildner: shouldnt be such abig deal10:10
njende!ubuntu10:10
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome10:10
ThePubmajnoon: comment out the usefbdev line under the device section10:10
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njendemildner: there are no links for IRC's10:10
ThePubmajnoon: and if you're using gdm/kdm then issue /etc/init.d/(gdm/kdm) restart10:10
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majnoonok me try10:11
njendemildner: have it?10:11
Frederickfolks I managed to set up accents and brazilian characters for gtk applications but it doesnt work for open office, any ideas? ive installed the br language pack also10:11
njendemildner: if not, what client do you use to join the IRC?10:11
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aleksanterigreat, M$' CD burner ruined my CD's :| >:(10:12
njendemildner: no answer is cool, as it makes it impossible to help ;-)10:12
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njendemildner: !ping10:13
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njenden8 folks10:13
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