[12:13] <DrCub> I have a flashing cursor in the upper left hand corner that allows me to type something in
[12:14] <ailean> angasule, to be honest i don't know. i take it that's the file that lists current pci devices?
[12:15] <angasule> ailean: actually, it's a directory with some stuff, why do you need it?
[12:15] <ailean> angasule, no, that's a directory you've given me . . . i'm looking for something akin to this: http://people.debian.org/~wouter/laptop/node20.html
[12:15] <ailean> angasule, just trying to learn about the system
[12:15] <ailean> angasule, not doing anything in particular, but my book says that that file is there
[12:17] <angasule> ailean: that was written at the beginning of 2004, apparently, that's almost 3 years old, so many of the specifics are likely wrong, and I think /proc in particular changes often
[12:18] <DrCub> well I restarted, startkde and startx still don't do anything
[12:18] <DrCub> well other then errors
[12:18] <ailean> angasule, right :)
[12:18] <ailean> angasule, okay, thanks for your help :) I'll move on :D
[12:19] <uphill> hi i have a sb128 pci with 4.1
[12:19] <uphill> can i you that for seperate output for jackd?
[12:19] <uphill> i mean 2 sterio output channels
[12:23] <DrCub> could this be a graphical issue?
[12:24] <mortici> whats a good firefox plugin to play audio/video in the browser?
[12:24] <coreymon77> hey guys
[12:24] <coreymon77> is there any sort of kubuntu-kubuntu remote assistance type thing for kubuntu?
[12:26] <coreymon77> guys?
[12:26] <MalfermitaKodo> hmmm, X-forwarding?
[12:26] <MalfermitaKodo> o... you just mean in general
[12:26] <coreymon77> i have a friend who just got kubuntu
[12:27] <MalfermitaKodo> sorry, VERY low on caffeine
[12:27] <MalfermitaKodo> yeah?
[12:27] <coreymon77> and i want to use a remote assistance type thing )if it exists) to help him get started
[12:27] <nixternal> coreymon77: KMenu > Internet > krfb and krdc
[12:28] <coreymon77> how do i use it
[12:28] <coreymon77> and which one should i use
[12:28] <nixternal> use krfb on his machine, and then you will connect to him with krdc
[12:28] <nixternal> when connecting with krdc you would type:    ip.add.re.ss:0
[12:28] <DrCub> please guys, I have to go soon
[12:29] <coreymon77> okay look
[12:29] <coreymon77> i want to connect to and vontrol his computer
[12:29] <marciomra> hi?
[12:29] <nixternal> coreymon77: it works pretty much the same as mstc does in windows xp
[12:30] <DrCub> coreymon77 are you talking to me
[12:30] <nixternal> you will have full control of his system
[12:30] <coreymon77> which program does he use
[12:30] <nixternal> whats up DrCub ?
[12:30] <DrCub> well I can't get KDE to start
[12:30] <nixternal> he uses the krfb and creates an invitation for you
[12:30] <DrCub> I tried startx and it gives me an error
[12:30] <nixternal> DrCub: was it working before?
[12:31] <DrCub> nope, it never was
[12:31] <nixternal> hrmm..what video card?
[12:31] <coreymon77> okay
[12:31] <coreymon77> now
[12:31] <DrCub> hold on please
[12:31] <EightiesK> !mp3
[12:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:34] <EightiesK> how do i enable mp3?
[12:35] <nixternal> EightiesK: install libxine-extracodecs
[12:36] <snowice> which port to I need to open in my firewall to receive webcam from yahoo contacts?
[12:36] <DrCub> nixternal it's 	
[12:36] <DrCub> Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (GMA950)
[12:36] <Schuenemann> hi, what do I have to do to play music in kubuntu?
[12:36] <DrCub> This is a friend, he said he was asked what kind of graphics card he has and he said ATI
[12:37] <nixternal> hrmm, that should be good to go from the getup...good graphics card by the way (it is open and freeeeeee)
[12:37] <sirjinx> Hi, can someone help me with my laptop? Well, I mostly need to know how to start the powermanagement program from the command line.
[12:37] <nixternal> DrCub: try this when you are sitting there stairing at a black screen:      Alt+F7
[12:37] <nixternal> see if that tries and starts KDM
[12:38] <DrCub> well there's no blank screen
[12:38] <nixternal> what does it kick you out to? a prompt?
[12:38] <DrCub> he logins and he types startx
[12:38] <DrCub> then he gets an error
[12:38] <nixternal> ahh, ok
[12:38] <Schuenemann> what do I have to do to play music in kubuntu?
[12:39] <nixternal> maybe he should try:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:39] <DrCub> [Thu:04:53:42:pm]  <DrCub> It said No screens sound
[12:39] <DrCub> [Thu:04:55:54:pm]  <DrCub> It also says No device is detected
[12:39] <nixternal> rebuild x-server
[12:39] <DrCub> ok I'll try
[12:40] <BluesKaj> !libjpeg-devel
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libjpeg-devel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <Schuenemann> !amarok
[12:41] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[12:41] <nixternal> !libjpeg-dev
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libjpeg-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <nixternal> hrmm...there is something that tells you about it, but this bot is smarter than i apparently
[12:41] <LjL> !find libjpeg
[12:41] <ubotu> Found: libjpeg-progs, libjpeg62, libjpeg62-dev, libjpeg-mmx-dev, libjpeg-mmx-progs
[12:41] <nixternal> leave it up to LjL to outsmart me ;p
[12:41] <DrCub> nixternal which one should I do
[12:42] <LjL> !info libjpeg62-dev
[12:42] <ubotu> libjpeg62-dev: Development files for the IJG JPEG library. In component main, is optional. Version 6b-13 (edgy), package size 180 kB, installed size 416 kB
[12:42] <DrCub> the first one you gave me or the second one
[12:42] <Schuenemann> how can I make kubuntu play music?
[12:42] <nixternal> DrCub: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:42] <DrCub> ok
[12:42] <LjL> !players
[12:42] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:42] <nixternal> Schuenemann: install libxine-extracodecs
[12:42] <DrCub> ok
[12:43] <DrCub> now he's gonna try startx again
[12:43] <Schuenemann> nixternal: in apt-get? that was not found
[12:44] <LjL> !info libxine-extracodecs
[12:44] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[12:44] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Schuenemann about multiverse | Schuenemann, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:44] <nixternal> Schuenemann: in your /etc/apt/sources.list you need to add multiverse
[12:44] <nixternal> info is the one
[12:44] <BluesKaj> nope, gotta be libjpeg62-dev
[12:45] <BluesKaj> err gotta be libjpeg-devel
[12:45] <BluesKaj> already have the 62
[12:45] <ZeuGiRDoR> I have an usb bluetooth adapter (Conceptronic cbt200u2) on Edgy, when I plug in, it's recognised by bluetooth daemon, but in bluetooth obex client I can't see any devices. What happens?
[12:45] <DrCub> is there a way I could remotely control his PC?
[12:45] <ailean> if (when feisty is ready) i decide to upgrade using the Kubuntu disc from Ubuntu, will there be any problem?
[12:46] <Schuenemann> # deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:46] <Schuenemann> this one?
[12:46] <ailean> i.e. ubuntu edgy -> kubuntu feisty
[12:46] <ehird> um
[12:47] <ehird> apaitude tells me i should remove about 70% of my package
[12:47] <nixternal> DrCub: if he creates an invitation, he can email it to you, or get it to you somehow
[12:47] <ehird> how can i tell it to shut the f**k up about those ones and stop spazzing out? ;-)
[12:47] <nixternal> but once he sets up the remote desktop sharing, then you can use krdc to connect to him
[12:47] <DrCub> It's ok, we'll do this a different time
[12:47] <nixternal> DrCub: if im around, hit me up
[12:47] <DrCub> ok
[12:47] <DrCub> thanks for you time and help
[12:48] <nixternal> no problem, have a good one!
[12:48] <DrCub> it'll probaly be tommorow :)
[12:48] <nixternal> i will be here
[12:48] <nixternal> somewhere
[12:48] <DrCub> or less you die...
[12:48] <DrCub> :)
[12:50] <coreymon77> okay
[12:50] <coreymon77> in order to get the hang of this remote desktop on linux thing
[12:50] <DrCub> is there a text based irc client HE could use in kubuntu nixternal
[12:50] <coreymon77> can someone let me try it out on their computer for a sec
[12:50] <coreymon77> i wont do anything to it
[12:50] <coreymon77> just to see how to connect
[12:51] <nixternal> DrCub: irssi
[12:51] <DrCub> ok, is that built in or how would he download it?
[12:51] <DrCub> and he uses wifi, would that be an issue?
[12:52] <nixternal> coreymon77: to connect you type his address followed :0   the :0 tells it to connect to term/port 0 which is where the virtual connection will be made
[12:52] <nixternal> 192.168.1.100:0
[12:53] <coreymon77> thats you?
[12:53] <nixternal> no no...replace the 192.168.1.100 with his IP address
[12:53] <coreymon77> he will prob do it by invitation
[12:53] <nixternal> i don't have remote desktop setup, plus I don't know you :)
[12:53] <coreymon77> i wont do anything
[12:53] <[Relic] > is the trolltec Qt   Qt in packages or is Qt in packages quicktime?
[12:53] <coreymon77> ive been in this channel for years
[12:54] <DrCub> Oh well, I have to go. Thanks again nixternal!
[12:54] <nixternal> coreymon77: also check out KControl > Internet & Network > Desktop Sharing (you get to KControl by pressing Alt+F2 and then typing in kcontrol)
[12:54] <nixternal> no prob DrCub, cya later
[12:54] <coreymon77> also, i dont think he has static ip set
[12:55] <nixternal> coreymon77: that doesn't matter, he can get his ISP IP from his router or going to a website that tells you what it is
[12:55] <nixternal> i gotta run off for a few..i will bbiab
[01:00] <kerwonz> what's happen with the server 195.248.90.35 it's down for kde updates?
[01:05] <vado> Re
[01:05] <ScottA> nixternal: I'm the friend of DrCub. Could we pick up where you and him left off?
[01:06] <ScottA> anyways, If anyone here could help me, that would be great. I recently installed kubuntu, but I cannot get KDE to run.
[01:07] <ScottA> hello?
[01:08] <ErikTheRed> ScottA: Can you be more specific?
[01:10] <BluesKaj> ScottA, just ask your question
[01:10] <ScottA> srry
[01:10] <BluesKaj> np :)
[01:11] <ScottA> When I boot my computer, and select Ubuntu 6.10 (for some reason it says Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu). Then the Kubuntu loading screen comes, and after I log in, I am just prompted with 'scott@Scott:~$'
[01:12] <ScottA> I tried startx
[01:12] <ErikTheRed> what does doing startx say?
[01:12] <ScottA> I recieved an error saying 'no screens found'
[01:13] <ErikTheRed> hmm
[01:13] <ErikTheRed> it says nothing refering to a driver or anything like that?
[01:13] <ScottA> hld. me checks.
[01:15] <ScottA> '(EE) No devices detected' is all that I could find vaguely pertaining to drivers.
[01:15] <ErikTheRed> what kind of video card are you running?
[01:17] <ScottA> ATI Radeon something, I think. It might also be integrated. When I do the Xserver Xorg reconfigure Autodetect it says I have ATI, but I could also have an intel integrated chip. not sure which.
[01:25] <ScottA> ?
[01:27] <nicola> I've got a strange problem with packages and dependecies
[01:27] <nicola> http://pastebin.ca/raw/270958
[01:27] <nicola> When I try to install kdesksd
[01:28] <nicola> kdesdsk
[01:28] <eilker> how can i have man pages in pdf file etc ?
[01:28] <nicola> and If I follow each dependencies manually I get the same errore, just with kde thist package
[01:34] <Blue_Dragon> hi guys
[01:40] <larson9999> help me out here.  i have an app that needs jre 1.5.  i go to the sun site an i see jre 5.0.  what am i missing here?
[01:40] <sungam> !java
[01:40] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:41] <eilker> !man
[01:41] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:41] <larson9999> sungam: yeah i know how to install java.  i'm trying to fix my understanding of the numbering system for java.  does 1.5 = 5.0?
[01:42] <nicola> Hi guys, what about this problem
[01:42] <nicola> http://pastebin.ca/raw/270958
[01:42] <nicola> ?
[01:43] <sungam> larson9999: sorry. I misread it :) No, I wouldn't think 1.5 is equivalent of 5.0.
[01:43] <judgen> !fglrx
[01:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:45] <sungam> larson9999: I'd think 5.0 was a typo...But Java operates with two number systems I think. There's Java 1 and Java2, and then the different versions of those . I'd expect JRE5.0 to be the 5th RE for Java2, and Java 1.5 to just require some version of Java1.5, not JRE1.5 for Java2, fi you get my drift :)
[01:47] <larson9999> sungam: yeah, i knew there were two numbing systems but it's confusing as heck to me.
[01:48] <sungam> larson9999: at least it's not as bad as gstreamer where 0.10 is newer than 0.8 :)
[01:48] <sungam> larson9999: and 0.10 requires 0.8 to be installed
[01:48] <larson9999> sungam: found this post:   Version 1.5.0 or 5.0?     |   Open in a new window
[01:48] <larson9999> Version 1.5.0 or 5.0? Both version numbers "1.5.0" and "5.0" are used to identify this release of the Java 2 Platform Standard Edition. Version "5.0" is the product version, while "1.5.0" is the developer version. ...
[01:49] <nicola> hey kubuntu guys I've got this problem
[01:49] <nicola> http://pastebin.ca/271007
[01:49] <nicola> (last link didn't work)
[01:49] <sungam> larson9999: actually.. that's better :)
[01:50] <larson9999> so they are the same!  :)  only in java does 1.5 = 5.0
[01:50] <larson9999> well for what i need
[01:50] <sungam> hehe
[01:50] <sungam> nicola: try doing an apt-get update
[01:51] <nicola> ok
[01:54] <davidson> hi
[01:54] <sungam> hi
[01:55] <davidson> y0 all
[01:55] <davidson> openvpn docs* ?
[02:01] <nicola> sungam,  this is the output
[02:01] <nicola> http://pastebin.ca/271033
[02:01] <nicola> it gave some error on a non-important repo
[02:02] <judgen> hi
[02:02] <judgen> !dri
[02:02] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[02:02] <judgen> why does dri not load for me =(
[02:03] <CVirus> are those new KDE updates real or its a bug or sumthin' ?
[02:03] <sungam> nicola: I'm not surprised you have a broken package with that many "random" repositories ;)
[02:03] <sungam> nicola: did the apt-get update help with the broken package?
[02:03] <judgen> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1) CRAP!
[02:04] <nicola> sungam,  no, it didn't help
[02:04] <nicola> I'll work to get a normal sources.list
[02:06] <sungam> nicola: try that, if that doesn't work, I'm not sure what you can do. I'd think that broken packages were a server side issue, though I 'm not sure
[02:10] <fred__> I am having some problems with the adept package manager
[02:10] <fred__> it doesn't open at all
[02:11] <nicola> sungam,  I edited my sources.list and wrote just the important repo
[02:11] <nicola> it gives me the SAME error
[02:12] <fred__> anyone?
[02:12] <sungam> !patience | fred__
[02:12] <ubotu> fred__: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:13] <sungam> nicola: not sure what do say... I'm not sure if it should be reported as a bug or not, I mean if it' a server thing or not :)
[02:14] <Schuenemann> how to update a program using apt-get?
[02:14] <Schuenemann> a package, I mean
[02:14] <Schuenemann> update takes no arguments
[02:14] <sungam> fred__: do this: 'sudo killall adept_manager; sudo rm /var/lib/lock; sudo dpkg --reconfigure'
[02:14] <fred__> a;right
[02:14] <sungam> fred__: do this: 'sudo killall adept_manager; sudo rm /var/lib/lock; sudo dpkg --configure -a' I mean
[02:15] <sungam> Schuenemann: update is to update your listings... do a 'man apt-get'
[02:15] <nicola> thanks sungam, I hope it's a server bug
[02:16] <sungam> nicola: you could always try an apt-get -f check
[02:16] <ricanelite> Anyone here use Apollon File Sharing?
[02:16] <fred__> sungam: it worked
[02:16] <fred__> thanks
[02:16] <Schuenemann> sungam: so is it 'install' ?
[02:16] <ricanelite> How is everyone likeing the new Edgy Ubuntu?
[02:17] <fred__> it's good
[02:17] <sungam> fred__: no problem. Adept locks access to the apt-get database by creating a lock file, if it crashes (or doesn't exit normally) it doesn't remove it and it crashed
[02:17] <sungam> Schuenemann: that or apt-get upgrade to check yoru entire system:)
[02:17] <kerwonz> somebody know software to build a dvd video?
[02:17] <Schuenemann> thank you
[02:17] <sungam> yw
[02:18] <sungam> fred__: sry, that didnt' make sense :) if it crashes it doesnt' remove the file and it can't open again, was what I meant :)
[02:18] <Matthew> yay, I installed edgy, and am updating it now...hallelujah
[02:19] <Schuenemann> is firefox 2 available through apt-get? "firefox" only is still 1.5
[02:19] <fred__> sungam: alright
[02:20] <fred__> sungam: I'm completely new to Kubuntu, and I'm just getting used to it
[02:20] <nicola> sungam,  it didn't work...a friend of mine just tried to install the same package I have (kdesdk) and it worked...
[02:22] <sungam> nicola: hmm...  try a apt-get upgrade? In case your package dependso n the wrong version?
[02:22] <dmarkey> hi, can anyone explain why i cant get bash export to work
[02:26] <nicola> I tryed even the apt-get upgrade
[02:27] <sungam> nicola: sorry, then I don't know if I can help you. :)
[02:28] <nicola> thanks anyway
[02:34] <Vladdy> I'm in baattery mode, now it tries to spin down the disk every 10 sseconds
[02:35] <Vladdy> then it does something to disk so it has to power up again
[02:35] <Vladdy> how do i prevent spindown?
[02:35] <Vladdy> it's annoying
[02:38] <beau> is/are the adept servers down?
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> for this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35863/ source list, i get this eror "E: Type '01.' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:39] <beau> i cant open them
[02:41] <beau> the APT database could not be opened
[02:41] <beau> :-(
[02:42] <digitalfreedom> so no adept?
[02:43] <sungam> digitalfreedom: try running: 'sudo killall adept_manager; rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock; dpkg --configure -a'
[02:43] <Jucato> !adept crash fix
[02:43] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:45] <mortici> omg i almost had EvE working
[02:46] <mortici> it loaded fullscreen and everything
[02:46] <mortici> but when i selected my char, it crashed :(
[02:46] <digitalfreedom> no go guys
[02:46] <rance> I need to ask a strange question, from where does kubuntu get its instructions about which modules to install a boot, I want to cancel the loading of some modules, but cant find where they are being loaded from
[02:46] <mortici> in the kernel?
[02:47] <rance> like sound card modules, and other type stuff
[02:47] <jack___> ...
[02:47] <sungam> Jucato: at what point is the lock file removed? When the adept process terminates (from the 'sudo fuser' call) or does 'dpkg --configure -a' fixit?
[02:47] <mortici> rance, you would disable those in the kernel?
[02:47] <Jucato> sungam: from the dpkg command, afaik.
[02:48] <Jucato> sungam: actually, I run that command without running the fuser command,and it works
[02:48] <sungam> Jucato: alright. Thanks, the ubotu way is a lot cleaner than my way ;)
[02:48] <sungam> Jucato: oh :o
[02:48] <rance> ok, how, Im not ready to recomplile the kernel yet, im just trying to get some kernel modules to not autoload at startup, there has to be a config file somewhere that tells the system which modules to load
[02:48] <Jucato> sungam: of course the bot's (and my) way already presumes that there is no running instance of apt, dpkg, or adept :)
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> rance: /etc/modules iirc
[02:49] <sungam> Jucato: bot's way doesn't assume that, as the -k in fuser will kill :)
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: any idea about my problem?
[02:49] <Jucato> ah yeah, I'm the only one who presumes. )
[02:49] <rance> Admiral: thanks but I already checked there, and all thats listed is my lp module
[02:49] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: let me check
[02:50] <Matthew> wow, I just had my processor maxed at 100 and was watching my 2 gig swap fill up extremely quickly...I managed to stop the process that was doing it...it was call gd 1.7, I think. Anyone know anything?
[02:50] <mortici> rance, disable the module in the kernel
[02:50] <mortici> cd /usr/src/linux
[02:50] <mortici> sudo make menuconfig
[02:50] <mortici> and disable the module
[02:50] <rance> ok
[02:51] <rance> still seems odd to me that modules would autoload, never seen that before
[02:51] <sungam> ranw
[02:51] <sungam> * rance: why would you want to disable them?
[02:51] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: you don't happen to have a line that starts with "01." in your sources.list, do you?
[02:52] <mortici> rance, sounds normal to me, im not sure how kubuntu handles moudle autoloading, but if its made in the kernel its put in the db therefore it will load it
[02:52] <sungam> rance: unless you know what you're doing it's very easy to break stuff, and the ubuntu scripts are very good at dtecting the proper hardware configuration :)
[02:52] <sungam> Matthew: sounds like a memory leak
[02:52] <crimsun> module autoloading is identical to every other distro in existence.
[02:52] <crimsun> i.e., it's not a distro thing.
[02:52] <rance> ok, I have a sound card problem, and finally figured out that it was related to the modules that were being loaded
[02:52] <mortici> im pretty sure there is a file you can edit to stop it from autoloading
[02:52] <rance> I unloaded them by hand, and got sound back
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: let me check
[02:53] <rance> but it didnt survive a rebook
[02:53] <rance> reboot
[02:53] <mortici> yeah just disable them in the kernel
[02:53] <crimsun> mortici: various blacklists, yes
[02:53] <mortici> rebuild the kernel
[02:53] <mortici> and voila it should work
[02:53] <Matthew> sungam, ok...but what I was really asking was "What is that program/process for?"
[02:53] <mortici> at least thats how i used to do it in Gentoo
[02:53] <mortici> :)
[02:53] <crimsun> rance: lspci -nv ?
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: no, i rechecked the source list
[02:54] <sungam> Matthew: realised... tried to do a man, a 'gd --help' and a locate, but didn't turn out anything...
[02:54] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: sudo apt-get update again?
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: working on it
[02:55] <Matthew> sungam, ok, thanks for trying...
[02:55] <Matthew> sungam, I'm not even sure that gd is the name of the leaky process...
[02:55] <jack___> how do I get the list of all hardware on my system? I'm too stupid to be able to find it...
[02:56] <sungam> Matthew: google says something about a graphics library... and it could possibly be associated with gdesklets?
[02:56] <sungam> Matthew: just guessing, though :)
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: same thing
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> is there a way i can purge apt and fix it?
[02:57] <Jucato> that's weird....
[02:57] <Matthew> sungam, I'm using a couple of superkaramba widgets...
[02:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt"
[02:58] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe that will help
[02:58] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: I have a vanilla sources.list lying around if you want, admiral
[02:58] <rance> crimsun: sorry it took so long, but the output you wanted is at http://www.pastebin.us/9641
[02:59] <rance> sorry paste.ubuntu-nl doesnt seem to be available
[02:59] <seishinbyou> I've been messing around trying to get some of my multimedia and "other" keys working though scans by xev and dmesg, but some keys are just not detected at all.  Any suggestions?
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> no same eror
[03:00] <Jucato> I really have no idea what could be wrong...
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: sure paste it in the link
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:00] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: will do
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[03:01] <sungam> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/DfuKck53.html
[03:02] <crimsun> rance: which driver is the correct one?
[03:02] <rance> crimsun: according to knoppix the correct driver is via82cxxx_audio
[03:03] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: i'm thinking the problem will be with apt not the sources.list but i'll try it out
[03:03] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: probably right, but worth a shot :)
[03:03] <crimsun> rance: which means snd-via82xx is to be used, which is confirmed by your lspci -nv output
[03:03] <crimsun> rance: have you modified your alsa files yet? If not, don't. Reboot.
[03:04] <rance> crimsun: I rmmod ed all the snd* modules and modprobed via82cxxx_audio and had sound
[03:04] <sungam> is there anything similar to nopaste in the ubuntu repositories? only thing I could find was webboard, but that was a gui thing.
[03:04] <crimsun> rance: yes, which doesn't solve anything.
[03:04] <rance> ok
[03:04] <rance> what to do
[03:04] <crimsun> rance: since all you've done is used oss/free instead of alsa
[03:05] <crimsun> rance: 21:03 < crimsun> rance: have you modified your alsa files yet? If not, don't. Reboot.
[03:06] <rance> ok, I'll reboot, and be back later
[03:08] <vieira> hi ppl
[03:08] <DFM> hi
[03:08] <vieira> how can i execute a shell script from the kron tab?
[03:09] <rance> ok, I'm back
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: can I PM you
[03:10] <vieira> any ideias ppl?
[03:10] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: yep
[03:13] <vieira> need to set a cron that is a shell script, what should i do?
[03:13] <vieira> anyone!?
[03:13] <Schuenemann> anybody here installed firefox2 in kubuntu?
[03:14] <bipolar> Schuenemann: you mean, like 'apt-get install firefox'?
[03:14] <Schuenemann> yeah, but that's 1.5
[03:14] <weswh-> trying out kubuntu for the first time. 2 weird things off the bat. 1, my keyboard (and mouse i presume) aren't recognized at the initial kubuntu boot splash off of the cd. they are plugged in USB to an ASUS A7N8X motherboard (nforce2 chipset) - keyboard works in the bios but dies once the cd boots. so after it times out the 30 seconds and goes to start or install kubuntu, i get Loading isolinux: disk error 32, ax = 4200, drive 9f, and a ms
[03:15] <weswh-> i did not see an md5 checksum or anything offered on the site.
[03:15] <Schuenemann> there is the md5 there
[03:15] <bipolar> Schuenemann: you must be using dapper. edgy has 2.0
[03:15] <vieira> Does someone now how to work with crontab?
[03:15] <Schuenemann> bipolar: how to I get it on dapper? without the pain of that zip file they offer
[03:15] <rance> crimsun: would you mind if I message you?>
[03:16] <bipolar> Schuenemann: see if someone did a backport.
[03:16] <bipolar> Schuenemann: start with a google search for firefox 2.0 dapper or some such
[03:16] <sungam> weswh-: for Kubuntu to detect my keyboard and mouse I had to chose 'enable usb peripherals' or something similar in my bios
[03:16] <Schuenemann> ok
[03:16] <sungam> weswh-: but I had the smae issues with windows ;)
[03:16] <crimsun> rance: don't unless it's security-sensitive.
[03:17] <weswh-> Schuenemann: is that on the download page? or tucked away somewhere? i can't find it
[03:17] <rance> no, its just easier for me to follow you
[03:17] <weswh-> sungam - ok, i'll take a look. they were working in windows a few minutes ago.
[03:17] <Schuenemann> weswh-: I'll see
[03:18] <Schuenemann> bipolar: is edgy final?
[03:19] <bipolar> Schuenemann: yep, has been for a couple of months
[03:19] <Schuenemann> I'll try it
[03:20] <Schuenemann> weswh-: http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/
[03:23] <rance> ok crimsun, I rebooted, checked my modules are loaded are what they "usually" are and I'm back to no sound.
[03:25] <weswh-> thanks man
[03:25] <weswh-> as soon as the file calculated i knew it was wrong - turns out it's only 200 megs
[03:25] <weswh-> firefox claims it finished...not sure what happened there
[03:26] <weswh-> suprised it booted at all
[03:26] <crimsun> rance: excellent.
[03:26] <crimsun> rance: please pastebin your ``amixer''
[03:27] <rance> ok, this is part of the problem I think, the channels amixer finds arent really there
[03:27] <poisson> hi
[03:28] <poisson> anyone can help me?
[03:28] <Skrot> !ask
[03:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <Shaun> lol
[03:29] <Shaun> always annoying that
[03:29] <poisson> =)
[03:29] <Shaun> would you mind if i ask a question??
[03:29] <Shaun> ;)
[03:29] <Skrot> yeah
[03:29] <Skrot> just ask =)
[03:29] <poisson> I need to know how to install focedeth driver
[03:29] <poisson> http://www.hailfinger.org/carldani/linux/patches/forcedeth/
[03:29] <Shaun> you've asked a question, by asking if you can ask :D
[03:29] <poisson> do i have to compile it or what?
[03:30] <poisson> right, just courtesy ;)
[03:30] <Shaun> i didnt have to install forcedeth myself
[03:30] <rance> crimsun: here is the amixer output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35868/
[03:30] <Shaun> the ubuntu installer detected my nf4 nic and did it all for me, so nice
[03:30] <Skrot> Whats the name of the module?
[03:30] <poisson> dorcedeth
[03:30] <Shaun> all i had to install was fglx, was so impressed
[03:30] <poisson> sorry, forcedeth
[03:31] <Shaun> i had them all nice
[03:31] <poisson> I hava ubuntu to, it recognize it, but dont work
[03:31] <Skrot> poisson: You might try "sudo modprobe forcedeth"
[03:31] <Skrot> ah, nevermind then
[03:32] <poisson> i think i hace to install it first, or compile it.. (sorry about my english =P)
[03:36] <crimsun> rance: ok, time to adjust some mixer values
[03:36] <rance> fire ahead
[03:37] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'IEC958' off && amixer set 'IEC958 Output' off
[03:37] <maryen> ello
[03:37] <poisson> =(
[03:37] <rance> crimsun:done
[03:37] <maryen> whats the flag to make glxgears display fps?
[03:38] <Skrot> poisson: How do you figure that it doesn't work?
[03:38] <crimsun> rance: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav
[03:38] <Jucato> maryen: glxgears -printfps
[03:38] <maryen> thanks jucato
[03:39] <rance> crimsun: nope, no sound yet
[03:39] <maryen> wow, its going so fast, it looks like its going slow
[03:39] <crimsun> excellent
[03:39] <jack___> .
[03:39] <dc905> HI EVERYONE
[03:39] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[03:39] <maryen> hi
[03:39] <dc905> my 1st day on kubuntu.. sorry about the caps.. lol\
[03:39] <poisson> Skrot:  Because it doesnt ^^. I have another to ethernets and they work perfectly but nvidia didnt
[03:40] <rance> crimsun: done
[03:40] <jack___> ubuntu can see my wireless card and using lshw it looks like it has the correct driver for my chipset
[03:40] <crimsun> rance: and?
[03:40] <Skrot> poisson: Is there more than one network adapter in the machine you're talking about?
[03:40] <rance> nope, still no sound
[03:40] <bLaZeD> !dd
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <bLaZeD> !iso
[03:40] <jack___> but turning on the device in the wireless settings doesn't work, it just stays disabled
[03:40] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" - bin/cue can be converted to ISO using !bchunk - ISO images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning
[03:41] <poisson> Skrot: yes. I have two more network adapters, and they work perfectly
[03:41] <dc905> guys, whats the main efnet server?
[03:41] <jack___> !wireless
[03:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:41] <Skrot> poisson: Does "lsmod | grep forcedeth" return anything?
[03:41] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'External Amplifier' on && amixer set 'High Pass Filter Enable' off
[03:42] <dc905> !efnet
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about efnet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Skrot> irc.efnet.org i guess
[03:42] <Skrot> http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers
[03:42] <rance> crimsun: still no
[03:42] <poisson> Skrot: forcedeth              32268  0
[03:42] <poisson> Skrot I already have it, right?
[03:42] <Skrot> poisson: yes, it's loaded
[03:43] <dc905> thanks skrot!
[03:43] <poisson> skrot: lol, =P
[03:43] <crimsun> rance: good. amixer set 'Surround' 80%,80%
[03:43] <Skrot> poisson: How many eth* does "ifconfig" return? You might do "ifconfig | grep eth | wc -l"
[03:44] <dc905> do you guys use "konversation" for irc ?
[03:44] <Skrot> I do
[03:44] <dc905> it looks decent
[03:44] <crimsun> I use irssi.
[03:44] <jack___> anyone that can help with wireless not working?
[03:44] <dc905> i like that channel "Tabbing" on the left
[03:44] <Skrot> konversation is good if you like gui and the kde look'n'feel
[03:44] <rance> crimsun: done, still no sound
[03:44] <jack___> (i know this is totally passe to have problems with)
[03:45] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[03:46] <jack___> i already checked to see if it has the correct drivers (which it looks like it does)
[03:46] <jack___> but activating it simply doesn't work
[03:46] <rance> crimsun: done, not yet
[03:46] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 2
[03:47] <rance> crimsun: done, still no
[03:47] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'Surround Jack Mode' 'Shared'
[03:48] <sungam> which package is smbmount part of?
[03:48] <crimsun> use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:48] <rance> crimsun: done, nope
[03:49] <Kiongku> !stellarium
[03:49] <crimsun> rance: now set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' to 0, 1, and 3
[03:49] <ubotu> stellarium: real-time photo-realistic sky generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-1 (edgy), package size 1749 kB, installed size 3380 kB
[03:49] <lamus> hi
[03:50] <lamus> no?
[03:50] <lamus> ok
[03:50] <poisson> Skrot:
[03:50] <poisson> h | wc -l
[03:50] <poisson> 3
[03:50] <rance> crimsun: done, each value in turn, no sound after each value
[03:50] <sungam> crimsun: there's no package called smbmount, but I'm sure it's out there in another package... packages.ubuntu.com returns nothing :)
[03:51] <Skrot> poisson: Okay.Do you know which eth*-device is the nvidia one?
[03:51] <poisson> Skrot: Yes eht0
[03:51] <crimsun> sungam: I'm pretty sure you didn't search correctly.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=smbmount&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[03:51] <Skrot> poisson: So "sudo dhclietn eth0" when eth0 is plugged to a network with a DHCP server does not work?
[03:52] <rance> sungam: either smbclient or samba-common
[03:52] <rance> not sure which
[03:52] <sungam> crimsun: interesting.... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=smbmount&searchon=sourcenames&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[03:52] <krmalik> hi ppl........can i ask one question?
[03:53] <jack___> any help with wireless after i've gone through the wifidocs/wireless trouble shooting guide from start to finish
[03:53] <jack___> ?
[03:53] <sungam> crimsun: same for both package naems and package descriptions :)
[03:53] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'Master' 80%,80% && amixer set 'Master Mono' 80%
[03:53] <sungam> rance: tahnks :)
[03:53] <krmalik> i cant access my ntfs partitions with my secondary account
[03:54] <krmalik> folder which shud have ntfs partitions are empty when im usin second account which i created
[03:54] <poisson> Skrot: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.  I think that i have to specify to eth0 to use forcedeath as driver
[03:54] <crimsun> sungam: right, like I figured, you weren't using the correct search
[03:54] <krmalik> while with first account its workin after i rebooted the system
[03:54] <krmalik> any idea..............?
[03:54] <rance> crimsun: done, not yet
[03:54] <sungam> crimsun: sorry... didn't see the scroll.
[03:55] <Skrot> poisson: You should have eth0, eth1, eth2, and one of them is the nvidia ethernet card, assuming that is eth0, "dhclient eth0" should try to renew the IP via DHCP on the nvidia card
[03:55] <rance> crimsun: I knew this was strange, thanks for taking the time to help me out
[03:55] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'Master Surround' 80%,80%
[03:55] <seishinbyou> jack___: what model wireless and do you know the ESSID/WEP key for where you want to connect?
[03:55] <jack___> there's no WEP key
[03:56] <rance> done, nope
[03:56] <Skrot> poisson: Try "dmesg | grep forcedeth" and see if there is anything suspicious :)
[03:56] <jack___> the problem is the device won't even become active
[03:56] <seishinbyou> iwconfig tells you nothing is there?
[03:56] <poisson> Skrot: [17179585.860000]  eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01565:2501 bound to 0000:00:14.0.
[03:56] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' off
[03:57] <Skrot> poisson: Doesn't seem wrong
[03:57] <rance> crimsun: done, still no
[03:57] <jack___> seishinbyou : iwconfig shows me it exactly
[03:57] <jack___> "broadcom 4306" chipset
[03:57] <poisson> Skrot: using HIGHDMA... But nothing wrong...
[03:58] <Skrot> poisson: weird.. sure the TP is working etc?
[03:58] <seishinbyou> sudo dhclient eth1 (or wherever your wireless is) is stuck?
[03:59] <poisson> Skrot: Yeah. Im gonna try with ndiswrapper
[03:59] <jack___> ok, leme try
[03:59] <crimsun> rance: amixer set 'Channel Mode' '6ch' && amixer set 'Downmix' '6 -> 2'
[03:59] <crimsun> rance: if that doesn't work, you'll need to reset 'Surround Jack Mode'
[04:00] <seishinbyou> If you know essid of the AP to which you are trying to connect, you can put the line : sudo iwconfig eth1 essid (type id here)
[04:00] <seishinbyou> before the dhclient line
[04:00] <seishinbyou> I have a small batch file I use at work to connect to the company wireless
[04:01] <seishinbyou> sets the essid, wep key, and calls dhclient
[04:01] <rance> crimsun: its giving me a constant hum
[04:01] <crimsun> rance: what is?
[04:01] <jack___> after entering sudo dhclient eth1 it keeps sending packets and telling me the network is down
[04:01] <rance> crimsun: my speakers after that last command
[04:01] <intelikey> trying to setup 'brother mfc-3360c' it's not in the list, mfc starts at 7150c     any idea what to try ?
[04:02] <crimsun> rance: no, I'm referring to -which- command
[04:03] <jack___> seishinbyou : under the networksettings menu i see the two network devices, (one built in) and the wireless card in eth1
[04:03] <jack___> but eth1 is show as a Disable wireless device
[04:03] <jack___> clicking "enable" just causes it to flip back to disabled
[04:04] <seishinbyou> Disabled... Is this wireless builtin (requires a button press to activate) or is it a USB wireless ( or PCMCIA, etc.)
[04:04] <intelikey> are they the same drivers in  cupsys-driver-gimpprint  and  cupsys-driver-gutenprint ?
[04:04] <jack___> it's PCI
[04:05] <rance> crimsun: its the channel mode to 6ch that causes the hum, when I set it back to '2ch' the hum goes away
[04:05] <seishinbyou> what does iwconfig tell you about eth1 (pastebin it)
[04:05] <crimsun> rance: is that with surround mode set to shared or independent?
[04:06] <jack___> pastebin? (can you give me what i need to type in to the terminal exactly, i'm also new to linux)
[04:06] <sistemas> good night
[04:06] <seishinbyou> !pastebin > jack___
[04:06] <sistemas> I have problems with edgy eft
[04:06] <jack___> oh duh
[04:06] <jack___> !pastbin
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <jack___> !pastebin
[04:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:06] <sistemas> i don't have sound
[04:06] <weswh-> what do i use if i want to examine my hard disks (i am in the livecd right now)...just trying to find the file browser
[04:07] <seishinbyou> I'll put up what my iwconfig reports (Intel Wireless Pro) as a comparison
[04:07] <jack___> Well i'm on a mac laptop typing this right now
[04:07] <intelikey> crimsun any good with printer driver questions ?
[04:07] <jack___> i can't get internet up to the ubuntu box
[04:07] <seishinbyou> jack___: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35871/
[04:07] <rance> crimsun: surround jack mode is shared
[04:08] <Jucato> oooh seishinbyou... long time :)
[04:08] <intelikey> Jucato what about you ?
[04:08] <seishinbyou> Jucato: Hello.  Yes, work has me busy
[04:08] <Jucato> intelikey: not good with printers. it just worked for me...
[04:08] <crimsun> rance: and what about independent?
[04:08] <seishinbyou> Data center this, postgresql that, redhat this...
[04:08] <Jucato> oh
[04:08] <intelikey> Jucato k  ty
[04:09] <jack___> seishinbyou , the stuff i see from iwconfig for my eth1 shares some lines with yours
[04:09] <intelikey> !printing
[04:09] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:09] <seishinbyou> jack___: Here is the script I use to connect http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35872/
[04:10] <rance> crimsun, with independent the channel mode = 6ch does not hum
[04:10] <crimsun> rance: looking for audible output, though
[04:10] <seishinbyou> When I did a dhclient right now without specifying an essid.  It ended up in an endless loop
[04:11] <jack___> seishinbyou , those seem like things to get me on to a network that it should be able to see, if the device isn't even possible to  enable is this correct?
[04:11] <jack___> my network is open for anyone with a wificard, no wep or password
[04:11] <intelikey> oh... this krazy piece of ****   if you start konqueror as root it starts in /root and calls that root's home no matter where root lives.....    grrrr !
[04:12] <rance> I still dont hear anything when I play a .wav and the only audible output Ive heard since you and I started working on this was the constant hum with channel mode = 6 and surround mode = shared
[04:12] <weswh-> where can i go off of the livecd to see which drives are mounted? and look at their contents
[04:12] <weswh-> i can get to my home folder...which i presume is in ram or something?
[04:13] <weswh-> it doesn't appear that either drive is mounted
[04:13] <seishinbyou> jack___: Well, even if you don't have any wep key set, the AP has its' own essid.  The Wireless Assistant manager should be able to tell you the essid
[04:13] <seishinbyou> or iwlist eth1 scanning
[04:14] <jack___> the wireless assistant shows no networks
[04:14] <rance> weswh: go to a terminal and sudo mount /dev/whatever
[04:14] <jack___> how is it going to see anything if the only wifi card on there is disabled?
[04:14] <max_> how do you format a floppy in Kubuntu?
[04:15] <rance> weswh: go to a terminal and sudo mount /dev/whatever /path/to/whereever
[04:15] <rance> sorry
[04:16] <crimsun> rance: are you sure your dxs elements don't need to be set higher? (say, 95%)
[04:17] <jack___> seishinbyou forgot you add your name last time i said something, did you see what i wrote? (just checking)
[04:18] <rance> crimsun: honestly, I have no idea, Ive never had dxs elements till kubuntu said I did. Ive never had such a complicated amixer setup on any other distro Ive ever had on this box
[04:19] <rance> crimsun: well over half of the suff amixer wants settings for I don't really think I have
[04:20] <seishinbyou> jack___: I saw it.  Hmm, I was hoping it would just turn on when you went to use it, but since that appears not to be the case, I'm going to have to do a bit of googling
[04:21] <seishinbyou> I had a wireless problem when I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, but a reboot fixed that oddly (Windows solution).  Does wireless work from the Live CD for you?
[04:21] <jack___> oh oops, sorry i iddn't mention i'm on the live cd
[04:21] <jack___> i wanted to check if wireless worked before i installed, i should have mentioned that
[04:21] <seishinbyou> Ah, okay
[04:22] <jack___> been using it all day and actually forgot,
[04:22] <jack___> had a graphics problem too, so i'm in safe graphics mode
[04:22] <weswh-> i'm a little confused by the wording on the disk partition portion of the install. if i choose 'erase entire disk', it will clear it all, and automatically create partitions utilizing the entire disk right?
[04:22] <beau> where i should install realplayer to?
[04:22] <weswh-> it says it will create partitions 1 and 5...which makes me wonder if it is leaving something in between, or if it is just skipping for its own sake
[04:22] <jack___> i wanted to check wifi would work before figuring out graphics and both of those before actually installing
[04:22] <seishinbyou> Okay, I'll look that up.
[04:24] <beau> its gonna make a swap partition weswh
[04:25] <weswh-> beau: but why 1 and 5?
[04:25] <weswh-> not 1 and 2?
[04:26] <kerwonz> somebody know how to install a internal webcam?
[04:26] <weswh-> it's just making me nervous that it isn't going to wipe the entire disk first.
[04:26] <weswh-> but, i chose "erase entire disk" so i guess there is no need for concern
[04:27] <weswh-> they could improve the wording in the 'ready to install' recap though.. it says the following paritions will be formated, 1 as ext3, 5 as swap. should say "entire disk will be erased" before that, just to confirm
[04:28] <Vladdy> weswh-: stupid people shouldn't have windows :D
[04:28] <Vladdy> night hehe
[04:28] <beau> haha  @ vladdy
[04:28] <beau> true true
[04:29] <beau> :-(
[04:29] <max_> why will Kubuntu not boot from a Win 98 disk?
[04:29] <max_> i put it in and it wont boot to the CD
[04:29] <beau> not boot from a 98 disc?
[04:30] <crimsun> rance: I'll need to look at the registers for that, and I don't have time atm to do it
[04:30] <rance> max_: is your bios not set to boot from the cd
[04:30] <max_> it is, it will boot to a KDE live CD
[04:30] <rance> crimsun: thats fine, I appreciate you trying.  I guess I just don't understand why kubuntu thinks I have surround sound, when the card doesnt
[04:30] <beau> check the system servies in jubuntu
[04:30] <beau> K8
[04:31] <beau> w/e you knw what i mean
[04:31] <intelikey> ok fyi. after some searching and propritary fumbling... brother printers are for the most part supported in linux but some are prietary(non-free) drivers  so the printer issue is solved here.
[04:31] <intelikey> one other quarry though.  how the snort do you remove a printer once you set up another ?
[04:32] <rance> crimsun: if amixer would just report what is really there, then I could figure it out, but I sure don't understand all the extra stuff
[04:32] <RoKFiT> sup yall
[04:32] <beau> SSDD Rok
[04:32] <RoKFiT> SSDD?
[04:32] <beau> shame $hit diffrent day
[04:32] <beau> same*
[04:33] <RoKFiT> HAH!
[04:33] <RoKFiT> good one!
[04:33] <beau> rm
[04:33] <beau> dang it thought i was in the konsole
[04:33] <beau> lol
[04:34] <rance> nite all, its time for bed here
[04:34] <rance> crimsun: thanks again for the time
[04:34] <beau> i know rm removes stuff but what argument do i use to rmove the entire dir? rm -a?
[04:34] <rance> beau: man rm
[04:35] <Vladdy> recursive option ;p
[04:35] <rance> beau: i think its -r to kill a directory
[04:36] <beau> -r ok
[04:36] <beau> yessir that did it
[04:36] <beau> thanx maine HUGGLES!!!!!!!
[04:37] <beau> i had to ditch realplayer
[04:37] <beau> stupid thing nvr works for me
[04:37] <TheDebugger> Realplayer.. c'est mauvais de toute facon ;)
[04:37] <globe> Would anyone want to help me with ndiswrapper and a belkin usb wifi adapter? I have the driver installed and ndis says that it is loaded and the hdware present, but no ethernet connection
[04:38] <weswh-> ok, i have the system installed now - i still can't find where to look at my hard drive volumes. if i go to storage media, i see my optical and floppy drives
[04:39] <weswh-> and i can look at the root filesystem...but what if i want an overview of my hard disks, and access to them? i am lost :P
[04:39] <beau> got /dev
[04:39] <beau> go to /dev
[04:39] <beau> onr /mnt
[04:39] <beau> or
[04:39] <beau> or KDE control center /mount points
[04:39] <weswh-> interesting, nothing in /mnt
[04:40] <beau> well
[04:40] <beau> try /dev/disc
[04:40] <beau> then by name
[04:40] <Schuenemann> nothing in /media ?
[04:40] <weswh-> not hard disks
[04:40] <weswh-> the /dev does have the disks, hda and hdb - but broken up into hda1, 2, 3, 4, hdb1, 2, 3 etc.
[04:41] <beau> try Kinfocenter
[04:41] <weswh-> dev/disk/by0id shows the same thing
[04:41] <beau> partitions
[04:42] <weswh-> different parts to each disk
[04:42] <weswh-> and all but part5 of hda have lock icons on them
[04:44] <weswh-> yeah, it looks like it isn't automounting or something. partitions in kinfo center are pretty bare. it has the / mount point as ext3, then the 2 cd roms drives, 1 floppy, swap is "none", and proc
[04:45] <weswh-> how can i get a sudo file browser?
[04:46] <Schuenemann> kdesu ?
[04:46] <Jucato> kdesu konqueror
[04:47] <beau> use the konsole
[04:47] <pi1l> can I quickly and painlessly upgrade my 6.06 to 6.10
[04:47] <beau> i guess i dont know
[04:47] <pi1l> ?
[04:55] <ThePub> good evening!  anyone know what changes when kubuntu-desktop is installed that would cause folders to be hidden from inside your chosen file manger in X?
[04:56] <abattoir> !hidden
[04:56] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:56] <abattoir> ThePub: ^^^^
[04:57] <coreymon77> why did they do that
[04:57] <coreymon77> isnt the point of linux that nothing is hidden
[04:57] <abattoir> coreymon77: i think the point was to make it a bit more 'user-friendly'
[04:57] <abattoir> coreymon77: it has already been removed in feisty, and i think should be removed from edgy soon too
[04:58] <ThePub> abattoir: yeah, I just surprised myself and brought that up on the wiki.  you know how you pass over the insanely easy search of "hidden" sometimes? :D
[04:58] <ThePub> it's damn annoying anyway you look at it
[04:58] <coreymon77> ya
[04:58] <coreymon77> it really suprised me
[04:58] <weswh-> is there some option somewhere that will allow me full time access to my two hard drives entirely?
[04:58] <coreymon77> i go into konqueror
[04:58] <coreymon77> and all my stuff is hidden
[04:58] <abattoir> weswh-: try a live cd
[04:58] <weswh-> seems like most people would want the same level of access to their machine that they generally get with windows
[04:58] <ThePub> coreymon77: here's the kicker.. if you have gnome too.. it removes the default view of gnome to what konq is then.
[04:59] <weswh-> abattoir - - i have (and now it's installed). i wasn't seeing them on the live cd either, but perhaps didn't know where to look
[04:59] <coreymon77> ???
[04:59] <abattoir> weswh-: you mean you want to be able to unmount all your disks so you could, for example format them both at the same time?
[04:59] <abattoir> weswh-: oh, ok, you just want to mount them
[04:59] <weswh-> i have two hard drives...i just want to be able to get to my files :)
[04:59] <coreymon77> if people want the same amount of acess to their system that they get in doze
[04:59] <ThePub> coreymon77: I was just tinkering with kde, and even after uninstalling it my gnome desktop was doing the same thing.  which is what prompted me to look into it.
[04:59] <coreymon77> then let the sissys use doze
[05:00] <coreymon77> that do you mean by "the same thing"
[05:00] <abattoir> weswh-: type media:/ in konqueror if you are using dapper, you could even type /media if you are using edgy
[05:00] <abattoir> weswh-: see if your drives are shown there
[05:00] <weswh-> abattoir -- i have a 120 gig drive and a 40 gig drive. the 120 i installed with the 'erase entire disk' option., so i presume it should be pretty straightforward. at the moment all i can get to is my home dir basically.
[05:00] <coreymon77> ThePub: what do you mean by "the same thing"
[05:01] <ThePub> That page though, now that I've read it, doesn't explain what actually causes this behaviour.  What process controlls the access?
[05:01] <weswh-> the /dev area shows the whole thing but the 40 gig is locked out
[05:01] <coreymon77> oh
[05:01] <weswh-> and only one section of the 120 gig is unlocked (both drives have like 5 'parts')
[05:01] <coreymon77> you can have acess to your entire system
[05:01] <abattoir> ThePub: the .hidden file in /
[05:01] <coreymon77> you just need to be root to do it
[05:02] <abattoir> weswh-: how many partitions did you create in the 120gig drive?
[05:02] <coreymon77> anyways
[05:02] <coreymon77> i gtg to bed
[05:02] <abattoir> ThePub: it lists all directories/files in a particular folder which must be hidden
[05:02] <ThePub> abattoir: I understand that, but it's just a link.... if removed the behaviour should be at least temporarily gone.  this page says it will return, so what causes it to return?
[05:02] <coreymon77> gnight everyone
[05:02] <weswh-> abattoir - the language of the install was a bit confusing, i chose "erase entire disk" so i am assuming that happened. it then created an ext3 and a swap (partitions 1 and 5). why 1 and 5, i don't know
[05:02] <abattoir> ThePub: both Nautilius and Konqueror follow those guidelines
[05:03] <weswh-> made me think it was leaving something from before...but since i told it to erase, i decided that concern was unfounded
[05:03] <coreymon77> nautilus is the gnome file manager
[05:03] <abattoir> weswh-: i'm guessing 5 was logical
[05:03] <coreymon77> well
[05:03] <coreymon77> night all
[05:03] <coreymon77> see ya tomorrow
[05:03] <ThePub> abattoir: ok, so it's konq/naut reading the file.  needs to be on the page :)
[05:03] <weswh-> i have hda, hda1, hda2, and hda5
[05:03] <weswh-> (in  /dev)
[05:03] <abattoir> ThePub: it's there under "How do i restore Old behaviour"
[05:04] <abattoir> weswh-: what do you have listed in /media in konqueror?
[05:04] <weswh-> i have the same thing for hdb (not the boot drive, a disk that previously has xubuntu installed on it). so the partition layouts seem identical
[05:04] <abattoir> weswh-: or media:/ if you are in dapper
[05:04] <coreymon77> so ThePub , they "hidden file thing has been taken away in feisty?
[05:04] <ThePub> abattoir: well, no.. the reason it's happening isn't there.  it jsut says where the list of hidden files are.  not what is causing them to be hidden.
[05:04] <weswh-> abattoir: (edgy) and i have cdrom0, cdrom1, floppy0,
[05:04] <weswh-> (and a shortcut to floppy)
[05:04] <weswh-> let me get into sudo here and see if anything new pops up
[05:05] <coreymon77> and i guess "herd" is the name for release number
[05:05] <coreymon77> like burrow was for hoary
[05:05] <weswh-> in the long run though surely there is a way not to require sudo permissions to access the 40 gig in its entirety
[05:05] <coreymon77> and i dont know about dapper and edgy
[05:05] <abattoir> ThePub: well, it's pretty obvious i'd say, but if you feel it should be more explicit, you are welcome to edit the wiki page :)
[05:06] <coreymon77> w/e
[05:06] <coreymon77> night all
[05:06] <ThePub> abattoir: it's pretty obvious a list of names to "hide" was generated.  what's not obvious is what causes that.  I'm not intimately familiar with the works of konq and nautilus personally ;)
[05:07] <abattoir> ThePub: both of them, when they encounter a .hidden file, read it's contents, and then don't display the appropriate items
[05:09] <weswh-> abattoir - i am in sudo now, click on "ata-st340016a", and it pops up an 'open with'...is it not mounted? does it not know it's a hard drive?
[05:09] <weswh-> the icon (in /dev/disk/by-id) is a little stack of blocks
[05:09] <weswh-> but, that's what it is for all of the drives listed there
[05:10] <weswh-> i'm fairly confused :)
[05:10] <weswh-> konqueror seems a little strange compared with either nautilus or thunar...but i accept that i don't know anything about it yet
[05:11] <ThePub> weswh-: anything in /dev is a device
[05:11] <abattoir> abattoir: hmm, i still don't think you've told me if you see both your drives in /media
[05:11] <weswh-> i just want to get to my files so i can copy them to m system drive. i'd like to also see how much free space is in my system drive ext3 partition. you know, basics
[05:11] <weswh-> thepub - does it sound like i need to mount some things?
[05:11] <weswh-> or if they are in dev, they are mounted?
[05:12] <weswh-> nothing shows up in /mnt
[05:12] <abattoir> abattoir: /media not /mnt
[05:12] <abattoir> ugh
[05:12] <abattoir> weswh-: /media not /mnt
[05:12] <abattoir> bleh, i've been speaking to myself all this while
[05:12] <weswh-> media still just has the removable drives
[05:13] <weswh-> it's basically like the system sees the hard drives, but doesn't think they are importat to the process.
[05:13] <abattoir> weswh-: ok, so your 40 gig drive is not benig seen
[05:14] <abattoir> weswh-: is your drive listed in /etc/fstab ?
[05:14] <weswh-> abattoir --- to some degree i'm not sure my 120 is either though i know i'm running on it. but, even with this sudo level, i don't seem to be able to access the root level of the drive
[05:14] <abattoir> weswh-: what do you mean by that, you see only /home and /media ?
[05:15] <weswh-> yeah - but in the drop down box, i do see other things
[05:15] <weswh-> ok, now we are getting somewhere...
[05:15] <abattoir> weswh-: ok, that's a 'feature'
[05:15] <abattoir> !hidden | weswh-
[05:15] <ubotu> weswh-: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[05:16] <abattoir> weswh-: you can ignore it for the moment, or you can read that wiki and fix it if you want to
[05:16] <abattoir> weswh-: basically, there is a feature where all folders/files in / is hidden in GUI file managers
[05:16] <weswh-> abattoir - thank you! ok, that explains why i am a bit confused
[05:16] <abattoir> other than home and media, of course
[05:16] <weswh-> and /etc/fstab makes no mention of hdb
[05:16] <weswh-> it has hda mounting / and swap (none)
[05:17] <abattoir> and cdrom?
[05:17] <weswh-> and then hdc, and hdd, and the floppy.
[05:17] <weswh-> yeah, both cdroms
[05:17] <abattoir> oh ok
[05:17] <abattoir> is your 40 gig drive formatted? which filesystem?
[05:17] <weswh-> hda has quite a name along with it too. (the UUID)
[05:17] <abattoir> yeah, that's normal
[05:18] <weswh-> it has an ext3 partition, and a swap partition. it's probably identical to the 120 actually (it has a xubuntu system on it, i just need to pull the data from my home dir)
[05:18] <ThePub> it's some different mount system, dont' ask me ot remember what though :)
[05:18] <abattoir> weswh-: it's weird that the installer didn't recognise it
[05:18] <weswh-> abattoir - i had the option of installing to it
[05:18] <weswh-> but of course, that wasn't the plan
[05:18] <iniesta> someone could tell me how to install software in kubunto?????????????????????????
[05:18] <weswh-> so it does see it...just, doesn't want me to access it for whatever reason
[05:18] <abattoir> weswh-: oh, ok, i think you chose not to mount it there then
[05:19] <abattoir> weswh-: heh ok :P
[05:19] <abattoir> iniesta: what do you want to install?
[05:19] <iniesta> opera
[05:19] <weswh-> never specifically told it that unless there are some poorly worded places in the install :) is there any sort of tool to do this, or do i need to track down the UID and do it manually?
[05:20] <abattoir> weswh-: no, you can use /dev/sdb isntead of the UUID
[05:20] <abattoir> !opera
[05:20] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:20] <abattoir> weswh-: ^^^^
[05:20] <abattoir> ugh
[05:20] <abattoir> i'm losing it today
[05:21] <maikeru> !upgrade
[05:21] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:21] <abattoir> !opera | iniesta
[05:21] <ubotu> iniesta: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:21] <iniesta> i have te file in rpm format
[05:21] <weswh->  /dev/sdb?
[05:21] <abattoir> weswh-: isn't that the device?
[05:21] <iniesta> and i can't run it
[05:21] <iniesta> to install
[05:21] <abattoir> iniesta: no, you need the file in deb format
[05:21] <weswh-> iniesta - you'll have a much easier time using the package system
[05:22] <weswh-> abattoir -- well, hdb
[05:22] <abattoir> iniesta: follow that link, and install it
[05:22] <abattoir> weswh-: oh sorry, my mistake, make it hdb then :)
[05:22] <iniesta> ok
[05:22] <iniesta> tnks
[05:22] <iniesta> ;)
[05:23] <weswh-> should i use the same options that hda uses? for type, options, dump, pass?
[05:23] <abattoir> weswh-: mount pt. should obv. be different...
[05:23] <abattoir> weswh-: type depends on the filesystem
[05:24] <abattoir> weswh-: you  can use defaults for options
[05:24] <abattoir> weswh-: and choose 2 for pass if you want it fsck'd on boot
[05:24] <abattoir> weswh-: else you can choose 0
[05:25] <weswh-> so if i just say hdb, and tell it ext3 - it will search the disk for the right partition?
[05:26] <weswh-> (since i guess the UID is specifying a particular partition?)
[05:27] <abattoir> weswh-: if you have multiple partitions, they'd be hdb1, hdb2 etc.
[05:28] <weswh-> ah, i gotcha.
[05:28] <abattoir> weswh-: if your disk has only one partition, then it could be hdb
[05:28] <weswh-> yeah, i do have that.
[05:28] <abattoir> if you have the latter, hdb should work then
[05:29] <weswh-> nono, there are multiples. i have (in /dev) hdb, hdb1, hdb2, hdb5
[05:29] <weswh-> i guess hdb1 is the ext3...
[05:29] <abattoir> ok, then put that in fstab
[05:29] <weswh-> (that'd be consistent with how the live cd setup the 120 gig drive). is there a way i can examine the partition sizes through /dev?
[05:30] <abattoir> weswh-: none that i'm aware of
[05:31] <abattoir> weswh-: you can ofcourse mount them with the 'mount' command and check them out
[05:31] <weswh-> hmm, it won't let me edit fstab. i am in the sudo konqueror
[05:31] <abattoir> weswh-: try 'kdesu kate /etc/fstab'
[05:31] <weswh-> it seemed like there was an editor integrated with konqueror...just lets you view?
[05:32] <abattoir> yes
[05:32] <weswh-> ah, too bad. they were really onto something
[05:32] <Entrophy> Hullo
[05:32] <Entrophy> this is amazing! --> http://knightsdivine.net/weapon.php?uid=y20w75
[05:34] <malik__> how do i make kmix to appear in taskbar everytime i start computer ?..............anyhelp will be appreciated
[05:35] <ThePub> add the sound applet?
[05:36] <ThePub> only flirted with kde momentarily this afternoon though, don't quote me on that!  ^^
[05:36] <nav> hey im trying to get kubuntu to recognize some hardware, anyone in here have experience with that?
[05:36] <weswh-> i tried sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/files/ - and it says /media/files does not exist? that was kind of the point
[05:36] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[05:36] <Dr_willis> you MUST have the mount point dir - made BEFOR mounting to it
[05:37] <ThePub> weswh-: mount actually incorporates the partition into the filesystem, so you ahve to have a "mount point" created beforehand.
[05:37] <weswh-> so go to /media and like, make a new directory?
[05:37] <ThePub> weswh-: so like Dr_willis said, just do a "mkdir /media/files" then try again.
[05:38] <ThePub> dinosaur-rus: evening.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Linux FUNdamentals
[05:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:38] <garuben> Is there anyone who could help me setup jackd and realtime in order to get midi to run on MusE? I'm new at this and have found a step by step instruction but obviously one of the steps doesn't work...
[05:38] <dinosaur-rus> is removing the execution permission enough to disable cron task?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> dinosaur-rus,  it may generate an error that would then get logged.  make a test case and see what happens. :)
[05:39] <soaa> anyone knows how to get knetworkmanager working?
[05:39] <weswh-> so /media is where in the filesystem? swap? or is it going to mount new partitions "into" the existing / filesystem on hd?
[05:40] <dinosaur-rus> Dr_willis: hehe, easy to say as cron doesn't seem to allow period less than one day :)
[05:40] <malik__> how do i make kmix(speaker icon) to appear in taskbar  automatically everytime i start computer ?..............any  help will be appreciated ?
[05:40] <ThePub> weswh-: /media is just a directory probably created on /, when you mount something that something is "added" into the over filesystem.
[05:40] <weswh-> but sweet - i can get to my data now :)
[05:40] <ThePub> weswh-: swap is not part of the filesystem
[05:40] <weswh-> pub - the "over" filesystem?
[05:41] <dinosaur-rus> malik__: make kmix running every time? :)
[05:41] <krups> !burp
[05:41] <weswh-> hmm. just trying to wrap my head around the concept. it doesn't require space on the drive though does it?
[05:41] <ThePub> weswh-: yeah, meant "over the filesystem"
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about burp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <soaa> hmm, anyone?
[05:41] <malik__> yes how do i do that?
[05:41] <ThePub> weswh-: everything requires space, of course.
[05:41] <krups> !sexbabyitsaboutyouandme
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sexbabyitsaboutyouandme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <weswh-> (like, mounting a 40 gig drive into a 120 gig drive...it's just a logical link? not like it is copying the drive contents over in real time or something
[05:42] <krups> ok, i've had my fun
[05:42] <mathieu_> but whats a mount point? a few bytes
[05:42] <malik__> yes how do i do that?.....................to .....dinosaur-rus
[05:42] <mathieu_> at most
[05:42] <ThePub> weswh-: the difference between the filesytem here and in windows is that the filesystem is just a layout of mount points that point to devices and not individual disks (windows)
[05:42] <weswh-> when i access the mount, it goes and looks at the actual physical drive that was mounted
[05:42] <weswh-> i see
[05:42] <soaa> !knetworkmanager
[05:42] <ThePub> weswh-: yes, it does :)
[05:42] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[05:42] <ThePub> weswh-: the layout though is "virtual"
[05:42] <soaa> !networkmanager
[05:42] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[05:42] <nav> I have a volume control bottom on the front of my laptop, ubuntu recognized it but when i changed to kubuntu it stopped working, is anyone in here experienced with recognizing hardware?
[05:43] <weswh-> but the main disk holds the filesystem layout
[05:43] <ThePub> weswh-: well, whatever is "/" usually has the overall look of the filesystem, but anything can be mounted below "/" and override that.
[05:44] <ThePub> weswh-: you can mount things wherever and override the defaults at any time though.
[05:44] <weswh-> ok, now it shows me a pretty hd icon and tells me that it is a mounted hd, and how much space there is in total and how much is avail - if i want to get the same info on my main disk (that is mounted as /) - how can i see that?
[05:46] <ThePub> isn't there a "filesystem" or "computer" icon in the default kde desktop? probably a filesystem or "/" drive in there you could look at.
[05:46] <ThePub> I'm back in gnome atm :(
[05:46] <mathieu_> theres none
[05:47] <mathieu_> but if you hit F9 in konq you can access your media tab
[05:47] <ThePub> oh, my appologies then.
[05:47] <mathieu_> you should see your main HD
[05:47] <malik__> right click in the root folder n then properties ..........it will tell u how much space is used n how much free .......................to weswh
[05:47] <weswh-> my desktop is blank
[05:47] <mathieu_> although its not exactly "/"
[05:47] <mathieu_> so best solutions (imho) are: df -h
[05:48] <weswh-> my main drive does not show up in /media
[05:48] <mathieu_> or a superkaramba applet with the info
[05:48] <ThePub> open an xterm and type "df", lol
[05:48] <weswh-> oh, media tab..
[05:48] <ThePub> mathieu_: lol, jynx? :)
[05:48] <mathieu_> ThePub: uh?
[05:48] <weswh-> i just can't get any info on it
[05:48] <ubuntu> i installed windows on my secondary partition...i have Kubuntu on my promary, trying to dual boot
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. winrar aint workign with wine any more... bummer.
[05:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:48] <ubuntu> but when i boot i onloy get windows
[05:49] <dinosaur-rus> malik__: try to add a symlink to kmix in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:49] <weswh-> maybe it's because i am in the 'hidden' mode that was mentioned about the new konqueror?
[05:49] <ThePub> mathieu_: nothing, just suggested "df" at about the same time was all.  "jynx".. nm
[05:49] <ubuntu> hwo do i boot up to Linux?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> You installed WINDOWS after you installed Linux?
[05:49] <ubuntu> yes
[05:49] <mathieu_> ok. english is a 2nd language i never heard the expression
[05:50] <ThePub> ubuntu: rerunning grub should be enough
[05:50] <Dr_willis> That was your mistake. :P
[05:50] <Dr_willis> !grub
[05:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:50] <ubuntu> thanks
[05:50] <ThePub> ubuntu: or look into booting linux from the windows bootloader (which is doable)
[05:51] <ThePub> ubuntu: basically just boot off the ubuntu live cd and run grub with the configuration disk
[05:51] <ThePub> ubuntu: but don't boot into the live cd, use your working kernel and such on the hard disk.  then just run grub after booted up.
[05:52] <mathieu_> talking about grub i got a weir dproblem
[05:52] <mathieu_> grub load
[05:52] <mathieu_> but does nothing
[05:52] <ThePub> ubuntu: and you'll need to probably create a listing for your windows partition, assuming it wasn't there the first tim you listalled.
[05:52] <mathieu_> my configuration file is fine
[05:52] <mathieu_> i have to manually enter configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst to boot
[05:53] <Dr_willis> check your device.map perhaps..
[05:53] <ThePub> boy can I not type accurately tonight eh? :)
[05:53] <Dr_willis> Grub is one of those things that it pays to read , read, read.. and play with. :)
[05:53] <ThePub> and it's forgiving to a fault, almost.
[05:53] <mathieu_> never had any problems, only that now i got a SATA HD
[05:54] <weswh-> so i still can't get a report on the partition mounted as /. i can see the hidden files now...if i do properties on "root folder" it just comes back and says like 6k or something
[05:54] <weswh-> i need a nice My Computer pie chart ;)
[05:54] <ThePub> mathieu_: if it has happened since getting SATA, it's probably related not to Grub, but rather to how your computer addresses the SATA hardware.
[05:54] <malik__> u right click on the blank space inside the root folder n then properties
[05:54] <ThePub> mathieu_: external SATA controller for example :)
[05:55] <Annirak> I'm having a problem running an automatic ssh connection (for running backups).  I've generated a key-pair with no passphrase.  I put the contents of the public key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys.  When I try to ssh in, it asks me for the passphrase on the key (I've specified it explicitly with -i, so I know I have the right key) then when I hit enter, I get access denied.
[05:55] <mathieu_> but i tell grub to boot (hd0,0), which it doesnt, but if i type configfile xxxx from the grub prompt it does so it sees my HW correctly no?
[05:56] <ThePub> mathieu_: yes/no.  grub can access any available disk once it's in memory.  if your bios though doesn't properly pass control at startup to your SATA controller you can't automatically boott of it using the MBR.
[05:56] <avalon> Hi Guyz
[05:56] <mathieu_> ah ok ok
[05:56] <mathieu_> so ill look in the BIOS
[05:56] <weswh-> does 105 gigs of usable space on a 120 gig drive (installed with the 'erase entire disk' option) sound about right? (i have 1.5 gigs of ram, so not sure how big they did the swap). sounds about right at any rate
[05:56] <avalon> can anyone help me with real player bin file
[05:57] <ThePub> mathieu_: it's a matter of whether or not your bios can delegate MBR responsibilities to your SATA controller.
[05:57] <avalon> how do I make it work?
[05:57] <mathieu_> i reboot only on electricity outage though so its not like its a big deal :)
[05:57] <avalon> in KUbuntu 6.06
[05:57] <ThePub> mathieu_: what you can do is use a MBR on one of your other IDE disks
[05:57] <malik__> sounds right to me if u have a big drive with only linux on it
[05:57] <mathieu_> ThePub: theres not other disks
[05:57] <ThePub> mathieu_: :(
[05:58] <ThePub> mathieu_: am I right though, did you install an external SATA controller?
[05:58] <mathieu_> no
[05:58] <ThePub> mathieu_: so it's integrated?
[05:58] <mathieu_> yea, some ASUS mobo
[05:58] <slop> how do i go back from flash 9 to flash 7?
[05:59] <ThePub> mathieu_: I have an Asus P4C800 which has an on-board, yet external, SATA controller.
[05:59] <mathieu_> errr im not sure then
[05:59] <ThePub> (great mobo btw!)
[06:00] <ThePub> mathieu_: if it's like mine, you have to use the SATA controller in IDE mode to use it as a boot controller.
[06:00] <mathieu_> ok
[06:00] <mathieu_> thats a BIOS option right?
[06:01] <ThePub> mathieu_: well, actually.. on this mobo it's a plug thing.  there are SATA plugs for IDE and plugs for, uhm, striping
[06:02] <mathieu_> ok. so i think ill just continue typing the cmd in hand
[06:02] <ThePub> mathieu_: "raid", that's the word I was looking for :)  you can use it as a SATA raid or as a normal IDE setup with individual disks.  The disks will work normally plugged into the raid, but they won't boot iirc.
[06:02] <mathieu_> it doubles as a boot protection from the roommates heh
[06:02] <ThePub> mathieu_: just setup a password to your linux partition in grub :)
[06:04] <ubuntu> !grub
[06:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:05] <ThePub> ubuntu: how's it going?
[06:05] <ubuntu> iono
[06:05] <ubuntu> i did somthin wrong
[06:06] <ThePub> what's the default WM for kde?
[06:06] <ThePub> ubuntu: what happened?
[06:07] <ubuntu> nothing happened
[06:07] <bermar> Hola
[06:07] <ubuntu> it booted to win
[06:07] <malik__> i cant figure out how to auto start kmix applet in the task bar..................any help for me?
[06:08] <ubuntu> ThePub: this is so cinfusing
[06:08] <Dr_willis> malik__,if its started once.. you should/could save the session - and it should restart next time
[06:08] <ubuntu> ThePub: this is so confusing
[06:08] <mathieu_> i know i aint done anything and kmix starts everytime...
[06:08] <Dr_willis> or ya could use the 'add to panel' mixer.. but its a bit more then just kmix's
[06:09] <ThePub> ubuntu: I'm reading this page that you just brought up.  the "using the desktop/live cd ..." looks the most promising
[06:09] <malik__> how do i   save the session?...........to Dr_willis?
[06:09] <ubuntu> i tried that
[06:09] <ubuntu> and i mussta did somthing wonrg
[06:09] <weswh-> so my system had the right time when i ran the install....but now it says 19:21, and i see nowhere in the clock prefs to tell it not to use 24 hour time
[06:09] <ubuntu> wonng*
[06:09] <ubuntu> wrong*
[06:09] <weswh-> damn developers and 24 hour clock
[06:10] <ThePub> weswh-: I don't think it exists
[06:10] <Dr_willis> control center thing -- > kde componants --> session management
[06:10] <Dr_willis> I guess.. I though it edefaulted to auto-saving sessions
[06:10] <mathieu_> weswh-: you mean damsn everywhere but usa/uk?
[06:10] <mathieu_> weswh-: you can change that in kcontrol, in regional settings
[06:11] <mathieu_> time format: pH:MM:SS instead of HH:MM:SS
[06:11] <weswh-> kcontrol? don't see that
[06:11] <weswh-> oh..ok
[06:12] <mathieu_> and YES, it should say "use 12 hour system" instead of that cryptic combo box!
[06:12] <ThePub> mathieu_: those kde guys need a sensible setup like gnome.. you choose "12 hour" or "24 hour" time, hehe
[06:12] <Dr_willis> and i think the clock should Notice that you chaged the format and  actually change...
[06:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:12] <seishinbyou> weswh> It isn't just developers that use a 24 hour clock ;)
[06:13] <mathieu_> yea
[06:13] <weswh-> yeah i know.
[06:13] <weswh-> i just find that many of those do, in the US. them and the military
[06:13] <ThePub> yeah, once you're used to it, 24-hour time is actually very useful.
[06:13] <ThePub> especially if you do much timezone flirting
[06:13] <mathieu_> it seems the redraw optimization wait until a minute changes before updating
[06:13] <mathieu_> Canada uses 24h
[06:14] <malik__> is there a multi clock utility for linux where one can setup different timezones to keep track of time of different cities of the world?
[06:14] <ubuntu> ThePub: what do you think the easiest way to get the grub back would be?
[06:14] <mathieu_> malik__: the KDE clock can do that
[06:14] <ThePub> malik__: I think there's a KDE applet
[06:14] <mathieu_> just check more timezones
[06:14] <ThePub> ubuntu: any of the suggestions on that page should work fine.
[06:14] <mathieu_> and you can scroll-wheel them
[06:15] <ubuntu> ThePub: the whole dev and hda confuse me, its one of the things i was never able to understard
[06:15] <weswh-> will i likely notice a speed improvement from some little redraw/flicker issues i am noticing (not sure which driver is being used but i have a GeForceFX 5600 256mb) if i use the commercial nvidia driver?
[06:15] <ubuntu> ThePub: and its annoying, cause i dont know how to use a floppy because of it
[06:16] <malik__> i ll be damned...................it really can do...............the clock in the taskbar area ..................it can show mutiple timezones
[06:17] <malik__> very nice
[06:17] <jbruckman> my ktorrent keps going between downloading and stalled, any ideas?
[06:17] <malik__> must be a bad torrent
[06:17] <jbruckman> nope. friend is getting same torrent--no problems. lots of seeds and peers
[06:17] <jetc> anyone know how to get vnc working kubuntu?
[06:17] <ThePub> ubuntu: oh, sorry.  well, it's actually very sensible once you DO understand it :)  floppy disks are fd0-n, zero being the first.  IDE disks are hd<letter><partition number>
[06:17] <malik__> if there aint enuf seeders then it does do that
[06:17] <jbruckman> i'm on a school network, and i'm trying to sneak out of port 80
[06:17] <jetc> *working in
[06:17] <mathieu_> jetc: server or client
[06:17] <jetc> server
[06:18] <ubuntu> i know that much, but i dont know how to partition a floppy
[06:18] <jetc> it's a pain to do it in kde it seems
[06:18] <mathieu_> ive always set up tightvncserver in console...
[06:18] <ThePub> ubuntu: so with ide you have primary controllers (hda) and secondary controllers (hdb), tertairty (hdc), etc.  then each disks has a number of partitions, 0-n.
[06:18] <jetc> well...how do i got about it?
[06:19] <seishinbyou> Hmm, is it possible to distort the clock to run on a modified 24h system (i.e. when the business day ends at 25:00)?
[06:19] <jbruckman> anyone?
[06:19] <ThePub> ubuntu: so the a, b, c, d (on a normal system) is the first number in (#, #), then the partition 1-n is the second number.
[06:19] <mathieu_> jetc: sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[06:19] <ThePub> ubuntu: just subtract 1 from the second number
[06:19] <ubuntu> ThePub: i know
[06:20] <jetc> do i need to uninstall vnc4server?
[06:20] <ThePub> ubuntu: oh.. ok.. so I suppose when you said you don't understand how it works, I didn't understand what you mean ;)
[06:20] <jetc> and xinetd?
[06:21] <mathieu_> but kde remote desktop uses port 5900 by default; i wonder if its actually vnc underneath?
[06:21] <ThePub> ubuntu: I'm not positive you can partition a floppy, per'se.  you can definitely just issue a "mkfs.<type> /dev/fd#" though
[06:22] <weswh-> for getting mp3s to play with amarok, follow the same instructions as for dapper i guess? (lib-xine)
[06:22] <ThePub> ubuntu: I will temper that by saying, I've just never tried to run parted on /dev/fd# myself.  I haven't used floppies in 15 years.
[06:22] <weswh-> from the multiverse
[06:22] <jbruckman> weswh-: yeah, that's how i got mine to work on edgy
[06:22] <ubuntu> well how can i do it without a floppy
[06:23] <ThePub> weswh-: yeah, same stuff.. they've updated the same pages.
[06:23] <ubuntu> cause i would rather not use one
[06:23] <weswh-> what's Juk like?
[06:23] <jbruckman> weswh-: but i had some problems with my sound card that were unrelated.
[06:23] <weswh-> amarok is good...there are some things about it i find a bit funny.
[06:23] <jbruckman> weswh-: I don't like it, amarok is my player of choice.
[06:23] <weswh-> jbruck - interesting...mine seems to be working. it's playing oggs anyways
[06:23] <ThePub> weswh-: I like the rythmbox interface better, but it doesn't appear to support any extended library information like Lyrics that Amarok supports :(
[06:24] <jbruckman> weswh-: yeah, i have a TV tuner card installed, so my snd dev is card1, not card0. I had to change some settings.
[06:24] <weswh-> i might see about getting on the amarok team...even though i know almost all of their coders would surely run circles around me. it just needs a few extra featutres...it's almost there
[06:24] <jbruckman> weswh-: gl w/ that
[06:24] <weswh-> rhythmbox eh, i'll check it out. actually most of the additional features like that tend to annoy me a bit about amarok
[06:25] <weswh-> but more than anything, i have never been able to find the "repeat this one track in the playlist over and over" button
[06:25] <jbruckman> weswh-: i didn't like rhythmbox so much--don't really have a reason though, sorry.
[06:25] <jbruckman> weswh-: that's in the bottomw right
[06:25] <weswh-> is it? well, maybe i had an older version. it was 1.4.something...good to know
[06:25] <jbruckman> weswh-: looks like a down arrow, clicking it changes the icon
[06:25] <weswh-> mmm..nice
[06:26] <jbruckman> weswh-: then shuffle is right next to it
[06:26] <jbruckman> weswh-: you can shuffle by song, artist or album i believe
[06:26] <weswh-> ktorrent ay good?
[06:26] <weswh-> ay/any
[06:26] <ThePub> weswh-: Azureus FTW :)
[06:26] <jbruckman> weswh-: supposedly, but i'm on a school network, and I'm routing it through port 80 with mildly interesting results
[06:26] <weswh-> that's what i've always used - BUT, in my xubuntu install....there was a strange memory leak somewhere
[06:26] <ubuntu> ThePub: so where do i download a grub or bootloader?
[06:26] <weswh-> and many people pointed the finger at azureus
[06:27] <jbruckman> weswh-: yeah... i don't like java.
[06:27] <weswh-> so i was thinking about trying something different
[06:27] <jbruckman> weswh-: it's too slow fo rme.
[06:27] <mathieu_> ktorrent's "good enough"
[06:27] <jbruckman> for me**
[06:27] <weswh-> all things being equal i'd still use azureus
[06:27] <mathieu_> as in, it downloads torrents
[06:27] <jbruckman> mathieu_: that's my feeling too
[06:27] <seishinbyou> utorrent through wine if you are feeling adventurous
[06:27] <weswh-> maybe one day the guys will port utorrent
[06:27] <weswh-> nah
[06:27] <weswh-> not that adventurous ;)
[06:27] <ThePub> ubuntu: that page hits the nail right on the head to get your system boot back on track.  it's just a matter of running grub from the installed system that's already there.
[06:27] <jbruckman> weswh-: haha, gl
[06:28] <ThePub> ubuntu: you can do that from the live cd setup
[06:28] <weswh-> my next task is to get my Seagate external USB drive mounted (it's a macosx hfs partition) and get my data off of it
[06:28] <seishinbyou> It's not hard to get utorrent working, actually
[06:28] <jbruckman> weswh-: i have an external USB that just auto mounts when i plug it in
[06:28] <ThePub> Azureus filled my uTorrent itch tbh.  the one thing I dont like about ktorrent is the single window per torrent thing
[06:28] <weswh-> would firewire be just as easy? i always have this idea that firewire stuff is flakey
[06:29] <jbruckman> seishinbyou: can you set it up to port through port 80, and get out of a school network that blocks such things?
[06:29] <mathieu_> weswh-: as easy here
[06:30] <seishinbyou> jbruckman: In theory, yes.  In practice, I haven't tried it since I am free to use other ports at home and work
[06:30] <weswh-> jbruckman - - isn't that great? i don't think i will be so lucky initially, since the partition is hfs
[06:30] <mathieu_> weswh-: have you tried plugging the disk, i dont know about hfs but my feeling is that it will "just work"
[06:30] <mathieu_> especially if you dont plan on writing on the disk
[06:30] <weswh-> haven't tried though i guess i'm feeling lucky. nah...i just want to get the stuff, then reformat it ext3
[06:30] <jbruckman> seishinbyou: cool. It works on KTorrent decently--which i've mentioned before, but I wan't something better.
[06:30] <seishinbyou> jbruckman: You could do an apt-get install wine, download the utorrent client and try it out :)
[06:31] <jbruckman> seishinbyou: way ahead of you. haha
[06:31] <seishinbyou> The Wine AppDB says it works fine.
[06:31] <seishinbyou> Whatever that is worth
[06:31] <ThePub> ick, Wine :)
[06:31] <seishinbyou> It's not all evil :)
[06:31] <jbruckman> seishinbyou: haha, oh boy.
[06:31] <mathieu_> the torrent client i actually use most is screen+btdownloadcurses.py
[06:31] <jbruckman> seishinbyou: that's worth absolutely nothing.
[06:32] <seishinbyou> I've used utorrent from wine myself anyways, but I'm not so official
[06:32] <seishinbyou> Question is, is AppDB more worthless than a random blog opinion?
[06:33] <weswh-> hmm, from the screenshots juk seems to be up my alley. gonna check it out for sure
[06:33] <kai> hello all
[06:33] <ThePub> good evening
[06:33] <weswh-> i am really happy to be back to kde. it's been a few years...i went to fluxbox/xfce road for a while...in the end it's like come on, the computers are fast as hell...give 'em a little work out and enjoy the goodness
[06:34] <weswh-> even this crazy konqueror fs thing is starting to seem pretty snappy ;)
[06:34] <jbruckman> YAY! I've gotten 10kb/s download speeds! Alright for breaking through the system.
[06:34] <kai> where do i go, to get my joysticks 2 work?
[06:34] <jbruckman> The school is using a crappy windows server
[06:35] <seishinbyou> It's all great, except for kmail + scim not liking each other sometimes
[06:35] <jbruckman> once everyone on campus goes to bed, thish should pick up a little
[06:35] <EDinNY> what is the latest stable ubuntu release?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Edgy Eft.
[06:35] <jbruckman> i have a question about nvidia drivers
[06:36] <EDinNY> edgy is after dapper?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> then theres  the earlier Dapper Drake LTS  (long term support)
[06:36] <jbruckman> i'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[06:36] <ThePub> weswh-: after playing with kde and gnome, I'm more of the belief gnome > kde for just daily use.  kde has some flashy features, but gnome really seems to bring things together better.
[06:36] <jbruckman> and when i get to the command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Next is Fainting Fawn
[06:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:36] <jbruckman> I get this:
[06:36] <jbruckman> j
[06:36] <jbruckman> bruckman@jbruckman-EDGY:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:36] <jbruckman> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[06:36] <jbruckman> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[06:37] <mathieu_> Fesity is boringly stable so far... :P
[06:37] <Dr_willis> jbruckman,  perhaps you never installed the modules packages needed.
[06:37] <ThePub> mathieu_: not feisty enough for you, then?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> lets see....
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:37] <jbruckman> ubotu: thanks
[06:38] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:38] <EDinNY> is there a way to do an upgrade from dapper to edgy
[06:38] <ubuntu> ThePub: i did exactly like it said, and when i restarted it went straight to windows
[06:38] <weswh-> theoub - maybe so, my current experiences with gnome are so-so (it's on a couple of the systems at work)
[06:38] <weswh-> suse 10
[06:38] <jbruckman> Dr_willis: thanks a lot
[06:39] <weswh-> i am hoping it's more about getting things set up right for your work flow because well....i just got this installed :)
[06:39] <jbruckman> Dr_willis: i'll give this a try and see what happens
[06:39] <ThePub> weswh-: gnome itself is pretty boring, it's just my opinion that how your primary interface should be though.  it's the applications that should be interesting!  ^^
[06:39] <Dr_willis> linux-restricted-modules , nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common   seem to be what i have installed
[06:39] <Dr_willis> That how too needs some updateing. :(
[06:39] <jbruckman> Dr_willis: does it? hmm. will it work?
[06:40] <mathieu_> EDinNY: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list -- replace all "dapper" for "edgy" -- apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get dselect-upgrade;
[06:40] <weswh-> yeah, and i like that about xfce - but i was getting bored. really the biggest thing was i had a 512 ram machine...and it was always hovering around 400-450 used up. with not much running...(like i mentioned azureus was blamed by some)
[06:40] <Dr_willis> jbruckman,  the nvidia stuff works for me.. they made it even simpiler now.
[06:40] <jbruckman> Dr_willis: okay, thanks.
[06:40] <weswh-> so, my thought was when i got this new pc...go ahead and run kde, it can't be worse.
[06:40] <mathieu_> EDinNY: this is *not* the supported, official way :)
[06:40] <ThePub> weswh-: tbh, my biggest complain with kde is that the default setup under kubuntu doesn't appear to have a single place to apply one theme for windows, buttons, icons.
[06:41] <Jucato> ThePub: Alt+F2, kcontrol
[06:41] <Dr_willis> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic nvidia-glx  nvidia-kernel-common    are the 3 packages i got installed it seems
[06:41] <weswh-> interesting. yeah, well the stuff all needs work of course. and as much as no one wants to hear it, all of the desktop environment systems could stand to learn a few things even from xp/vista
[06:41] <mathieu_> isnt what the "Theme Manager" is for, ThePub?
[06:41] <weswh-> when it comes to getting things integrated
[06:41] <ThePub> Jucato: yes, yes.. but have you tried the gnome theme manager? :)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> ThePub,  Huh..  you are overlooking it then.
[06:41] <ubuntu> ThePub: i did exactly like it said, and when i restarted it went straight to windows
[06:41] <RoKFiT> where is the trash folder?
[06:41] <ThePub> you just drag your archived theme over it and it just works
[06:41] <weswh-> windows shell integration (3rd party and such) is way superior to anything i've seen in linux to date
[06:42] <mathieu_> RoKFiT: trash:/
[06:42] <RoKFiT> mathieu_: /trash?
[06:42] <mathieu_> RoKFiT: its also somewhere in the sidebar (F9)
[06:42] <ThePub> I'll probalby look at it later though, doing some work atm and kde was kind've getting in the way.
[06:42] <globe> what wireless cards are supported by ubuntu natively (no wrapper)?
[06:42] <Jucato> ThePub: the technical details is too long to discuss here, but essentially, you are just theming what's already installed on GNOME. In KDE you are installing new widgets/styles.
[06:42] <mathieu_> trash:/ in konq, that would be ~/.kde/trash i believe
[06:42] <RoKFiT> i can't find it
[06:42] <RoKFiT> ah
[06:42] <jbruckman> globe: i have a linksys, and it worked after a fresh install
[06:43] <intelikey> RoKFiT not /trash   trash:/
[06:43] <jbruckman> globe: I don't know where you'd find the full list though
[06:43] <RoKFiT> not in .kde
[06:43] <hihihi> hi
[06:43] <Jucato> RoKFiT: ~/.local/share
[06:44] <Dr_willis> I have a .Trash also
[06:44] <RoKFiT> thanks
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !/.Trash
[06:44] <intelikey> if you type trash:/ in the address box of knoqueror  ???
[06:44] <Jucato> RoKFiT: or, actually, just type in "trash:/" in Konqueror
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Dr_willis> ~/.Trash
[06:44] <mathieu_> or alt+f2...
[06:44] <RoKFiT> but trash:/ is really /home/user/.local/share/Trash
[06:44] <mathieu_> or add the trash applet to your kicker...
[06:44] <RoKFiT> no
[06:44] <intelikey> last time i saw it it was ~/Desktop/.Trash   iirc
[06:45] <RoKFiT> sup intelikey
[06:45] <ThePub> Jucato: yeah, I understand that, don't think I don't :)  It should just be "that easy" though.  ;)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Ya would think they could have at least a link from .local/share/Trash to ~/.Trash or somthing  :)
[06:45] <ThePub> Jucato: this is my unhumble opinion though.
[06:45] <RoKFiT> brb i need some water
[06:45] <RoKFiT> !water
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about water - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <mathieu_> Its also weird that the trash folder cant be changed from the kcontrol / Path
[06:46] <Jucato> ThePub: actually it's "that" easy, once you get over the fact that what you are basically dragging and dropping in GNOME are just color schemes and/or icon themes
[06:46] <intelikey> it you drink and drive kde you may mix kpaint with someone and produce a gimp....
[06:46] <weswh-> if i unmount a drive - does it automatically go into more or less a hibernate mode?
[06:47] <intelikey> weswh- no
[06:48] <intelikey> weswh- if you are asking about power-down on the drive, no  that is apm/acpi controled          and power-management of course.
[06:48] <weswh-> i see
[06:49] <weswh-> in xubuntu the package management was called Synaptic (or something)...is it named differently in kubunut?
[06:49] <ThePub> Jucato: I really do understand that :)
[06:49] <intelikey> weswh- adept
[06:49] <intelikey> weswh- but you can install and use synaptic if you like it.
[06:50] <Jucato> ThePub: but in the end, you are right and I agree with you. the theming mechanism in KDE isn't the simplest thing in the world
[06:50] <Dr_willis> !apt
[06:50] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:50] <globe> what wireless cards are supported by ubuntu natively (no wrapper)?
[06:50] <EDinNY> what is the difference between edgy and edgy eft?
[06:51] <globe> I mean...is there a spot on the ubuntu wiki where there is a list of natively supported cards...sorry wrong buttons
[06:51] <Dr_willis> EDinNY,  they are the same
[06:51] <Jucato> EDinNY: nothing
[06:51] <mathieu_> EDinNY: one is the full name :)
[06:51] <intelikey> EDinNY one leg is both the same.
[06:51] <EDinNY> but edgy goes in sources.list?
[06:51] <mathieu_> yes
[06:51] <intelikey> Q; what is the differance between a duck ?
[06:52] <intelikey> A; one leg is both the same.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Q: Why do Ducks have flat Feet....
[06:52] <Jucato> between a duck and ____?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> A: from stamping out forest fires...
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Q: why do Elephants have flat feet?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> A: From stamping out Flameing Ducks.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:52] <Jucato> heh
[06:53] <Dr_willis> 'Jokes you can tell your 5 yr old"
[06:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:53] <abattoir> #kubuntu-wildlife-jokes :P
[06:53] <mathieu_> i expected something unexpected :S
[06:53] <intelikey> Jucato those thing loose their beauty when we have to explain them.....
[06:53] <abattoir> unless they were domesticated ducks/elephants...
[06:53] <mathieu_> so that was unexpected, in a sense :)
[06:53] <Jucato> intelikey: ok.. I get it :P
[06:53] <abattoir> then i guess you can stay here :P
[06:54] <Jucato> heh
[06:54] <intelikey> :)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> 'A Badger, a Drake and an Eft, walk into a bar......'
[06:54] <mat0bug> hola
[06:54] <abattoir> where is the poor fawn?
[06:54] <mat0bug> estoy muy aburrido
[06:54] <Jucato> was just born
[06:54] <Dr_willis> abattoir,  She was too Fiesty. so they left her at home!
[06:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:54] <mathieu_> and the warthog?
[06:54] <abattoir> !es
[06:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:54] <intelikey> Badger  wait   i thought it was a hedgehog .....
[06:55] <Jucato> dead
[06:55] <mat0bug> ok
[06:55] <mat0bug> thanks
[06:55] <abattoir> no problem :)
[06:55] <mathieu_> (no problemo)
[06:55] <mathieu_> lol
[06:55] <abattoir> that's only if he had said gracias ;)
[06:56] <mathieu_> ok but i was happy to use one of the 5 spanish words i know...
[06:56] <abattoir> :)
[06:56] <intelikey> only uno ?
[06:56] <weswh-> my system doesn't want to load add/remove programs for some reason.it does the hoppy icon for a while, then stops without warning or notice
[06:56] <weswh-> as if i never chose it
[06:57] <abattoir> weswh-: try 'kdesu adept_installer' in the command line
[06:57] <abattoir> weswh-: see what happens
[06:57] <intelikey> weswh- hmmm    open a konsole and type in;    sudo echo working
[06:58] <mathieu_> is there a way to make vmware's cursor "interactive" ie. not having to click to capture mouse control?
[06:58] <ThePub> mathieu_: you know more than 5 surely :)  uno, deuce, trace, quattro, sincho(sp?), sece(sp?)
[06:58] <seishinbyou> mathieu_: install/enable vmware tools
[06:58] <weswh-> it says 'working'
[06:58] <mathieu_> ThePub: actually I speak french so adding -o or -a surprinsingly does the trick 60% of the time
[06:59] <intelikey> weswh- k  that's good.   now try the     kdesu adept_installer     in the same konsole
[06:59] <weswh-> abattoir - that opened it.
[06:59] <ThePub> mathieu_: hehe, pretty close!  I started French this year for fun
[06:59] <mathieu_> seishinbyou: you know the exact name?
[06:59] <RoKFiT> flash 9 x86_64, when will it be available to install as a working solution to flash player and firefox?
[07:00] <weswh-> anytime i do a kdesu command, i seem to be getting errors about an invalid or uninitialized input device, bad device...failed to open device
[07:00] <abattoir> !baddevice
[07:00] <ubotu> If you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[07:00] <abattoir> weswh-: ^^^^
[07:00] <weswh-> major opcode 144, minor opcode 3, resource id 0x0
[07:00] <weswh-> nice
[07:00] <ThePub> sounds like IDE resets
[07:00] <RoKFiT> does anyone know about flash 9 on x86_64
[07:00] <seishinbyou> mathieu_: From the VMWare workstation menu, there is a "Install VMWare Tools"  option.  Select it when the OS is running
[07:00] <mathieu_> i must say that bot impresses me
[07:01] <abattoir> RoKFiT: firefox?
[07:01] <mathieu_> seishinbyou: oh i only have the player
[07:01] <RoKFiT> flash 9
[07:01] <seishinbyou> Oh
[07:01] <RoKFiT> the plugin
[07:01] <abattoir> RoKFiT: yeah, for which browser?
[07:01] <ThePub> RoKFiT: negatory for me, sorry.
[07:01] <RoKFiT> firefox 2 on x86_64
[07:01] <abattoir> RoKFiT: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[07:01] <seishinbyou> Still, the "Install VMWare Tools" option only enables a fake CD image containing some source code.
[07:02] <seishinbyou> I wonder if it is available for download from VMWare's page standalone
[07:02] <abattoir> RoKFiT: just read it fully, before you do anything
[07:02] <weswh-> abattoir - so is that error the reason that the add remove programs link won't work well?
[07:02] <intelikey> abattoir isn't that a wacom error ?
[07:02] <abattoir> intelikey: yup
[07:02] <RoKFiT> abattoir: that method causes the browser to close randomly, sometime quite frequently
[07:02] <abattoir> weswh-: no, it's unrelated, harmless actually
[07:02] <abattoir> RoKFiT: oh, don't know, it works fine here...(or worked fine till yesterday
[07:02] <abattoir> )
[07:03] <mathieu_> seems pretty standard flash 9 behavior to me :P
[07:03] <RoKFiT> are you on 64 bit?
[07:03] <abattoir> RoKFiT: yup
[07:03] <RoKFiT> with 32 bit firefox
[07:03] <RoKFiT> ?
[07:03] <abattoir> RoKFiT: yes
[07:03] <weswh-> so i wonder what's up with that but oh well. i followed a guide online for adding new  sources and repositories (should have multiverse and nonfree and everything now), and i did an aptitude update, it all worked.
[07:04] <intelikey> weswh- ubuntu opted to setup wacom devices in all xorg configurations  so that if you have it it will work and if you don't all it does is wastes a few clock ticks,   no blood no foul.
[07:04] <weswh-> but in adept, i search for 'libxine' and there are no results
[07:04] <RoKFiT> well do you know when the 64 bit version will be available
[07:04] <jdq997> guys, I have a strange problem that I need some help with
[07:04] <RoKFiT> abattoir: how long have you been running it for?
[07:04] <mathieu_> weswh-: make sure you added plf
[07:04] <RoKFiT> without any problems
[07:04] <ThePub> weswh-: what about from a commandline using apt-cache?
[07:04] <weswh-> what does apt-cache do? refreshes it all?
[07:05] <mathieu_> weswh-: sudo apt-cache search libxine
[07:05] <abattoir> RoKFiT: had it running in edgy for a few weeks
[07:05] <ThePub> weswh-: nah, jsut package database tool.. searching and stuff
[07:05] <intelikey> weswh- apt-cache is used simply to search/parse the database of packages
[07:05] <RoKFiT> and then?
[07:05] <abattoir> RoKFiT: (mplayer worked too, even though the last few posts seem to indicate otherwise)
[07:05] <RoKFiT> did it just quit
[07:05] <jdq997> It has to do with beryl and gnome.  Beryl works... the problem I'm having is that when I try to go into sessions to add beryl-manager to start up it won't allow me to do it.
[07:05] <ThePub> you don't need root privs to use apt-cache for searching though (which can be nice)
[07:06] <abattoir> RoKFiT: updates to feisty broke it yesterday, i haven't had the time to figure out why yet
[07:06] <RoKFiT> mplayer does not work for youtube
[07:06] <jdq997> Any ideas?
[07:06] <ThePub> brb, going to change sessions.
[07:06] <mathieu_> oh, didnt know that
[07:06] <abattoir> RoKFiT: yeah, i know, that thread is not only for flash, but also for java and getting video plugins to work
[07:06] <weswh-> so if i want one of these, all i do is type apt-get (the name)?>
[07:06] <mathieu_> weswh-: sudo apt-get install (the name)
[07:07] <intelikey> weswh- sudo apt-get install <the.name>
[07:07] <intelikey> weswh- sudo apt-get remove <the.name>
[07:07] <intelikey> man apt-get
[07:07] <intelikey> man apt-cache
[07:08] <weswh-> perfect...man that is fun
[07:08] <weswh-> more fun than GUI :)
[07:08] <mathieu_> despite all the efforts to have nice graphical installers, this is still *the* easiest way to install programs
[07:09] <ThePub> mathieu_: just using apt-get and such?
[07:09] <intelikey> weswh- hehhe     if you've never used man pages  you should probably do   man man    or  man intro   or both....
[07:10] <mathieu_> actually, try man:/man in konq, much cooler :)
[07:10] <weswh-> nice..
[07:10] <weswh-> yeah to be honest when in the past i have used man pages they seemed so clumsy..
[07:10] <intelikey> mathieu_ cool is kinda an opinion there.
[07:10] <weswh-> unless you are like a vi expert
[07:10] <weswh-> so i always tried to find the info on the web
[07:11] <ThePub> nah, just reading a man page isn't hard or confusing
[07:11] <intelikey> but they can seem cryptic to the beginner...
[07:11] <mathieu_> it is. but im sure I share it with the majority, so that makes it a truth :)
[07:11] <weswh-> i really just meant navigating through them
[07:11] <weswh-> in a terminal
[07:11] <ThePub> intelikey: anything on a commandline is cryptic to the beginner!  :)
[07:11] <weswh-> not the info itself
[07:11] <RoKFiT> what art program do i want ot be using?
[07:12] <intelikey> RoKFiT gimp
[07:12] <ThePub> RoKFiT: pixel or splines?  gimp is great, but so is inkwell
[07:12] <weswh-> so once i have a shell up and do sudo once and enter my password, i can do sudo again and again without re-renting it?
[07:12] <RoKFiT> pikxel
[07:12] <RoKFiT> pixel
[07:12] <weswh-> re-renting/re-entering
[07:12] <ThePub> What's funny about the commandline is that the keyboard is by far the most intuitive device on a computer :)
[07:12] <RoKFiT> what package do i install for pixel
[07:12] <mathieu_> weswh-: until it expires, yea
[07:13] <ThePub> weswh-: "sudo bash"!  :)
[07:13] <intelikey> weswh- default is something like 15minutes....
[07:13] <RoKFiT> ThePub: are any kde specific
[07:13] <mathieu_> RoKFiT: gimp, krita, kolourpaint
[07:13] <weswh-> huh, i thought this thing came standard with juk
[07:13] <weswh-> guess not
[07:13] <mathieu_> ThePub: sudo -s
[07:13] <intelikey> ThePub why sudo bash ?     sudo -i
[07:13] <RoKFiT> what package do i install for gimp?
[07:13] <ThePub> idk  *shrug*  "init 1"  :)
[07:13] <mathieu_> lol
[07:14] <intelikey> gimp - The GNU Image Manipulation Program
[07:14] <mathieu_> !gimp
[07:14] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[07:14] <mathieu_> !krita
[07:14] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2463 kB, installed size 7768 kB
[07:14] <mathieu_> !kolourpaint
[07:14] <ubotu> kolourpaint: a simple paint program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1041 kB, installed size 2348 kB
[07:14] <intelikey> ThePub hehhe  sudo init 1     lol
[07:14] <RoKFiT> !pixel
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pixel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <RoKFiT> !kolourpaint
[07:14] <intelikey> !kpaint
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpaint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <ThePub> intelikey: not if you've "sudo bash"!  ;)
[07:15] <jbruckman> !gimp
[07:15] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[07:15] <mathieu_> i was pleasantly surprised today when someone sent me a .psd file, and it opened without flaw in kolourpaint
[07:15] <ThePub> ok, I'm just being silly.. this is why I put an explanation point after all of it :)
[07:15] <RoKFiT> !inkwell
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inkwell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <intelikey> ovelish
[07:15] <RoKFiT> intelikey: which should i use?
[07:15] <ThePub> exclamation
[07:15] <mathieu_> RoKFiT: depends on your need
[07:15] <mathieu_> RoKFiT: I'd start with trying krita
[07:16] <RoKFiT> advanced photo editing
[07:16] <mathieu_> if its not enough, get gimp
[07:16] <intelikey> RoKFiT gimp is heavy  but does just about everything.
[07:16] <RoKFiT> krita should do everything
[07:16] <mathieu_> yes but krita is still a bit rough on the edges
[07:16] <mathieu_> I personally use both
[07:16] <RoKFiT> how new is it?
[07:17] <intelikey> I personally use neither
[07:17] <seishinbyou> I'm still using Paint Shop Pro 4 through wine, but I'm silly that way
[07:17] <mathieu_> well its only been part of 2 or 3 koffice cycle
[07:17] <intelikey> i do use    tkpaint - Versatile bitmap/pixmap editing tool
[07:17] <flaccid> gimp 2.2.3 rox
[07:17] <intelikey> on occation.
[07:18] <mathieu_> my main gripe is its resize function, which blurs the image too much, and working with very large file is a bit slow
[07:18] <ThePub> now you see guys.. why ca
[07:18] <ThePub> why can't the "system settings" have the "Theme Manager" like kcontrol?
[07:18] <mathieu_> my main gripe with gimp is its interface, but thats subjective i guess
[07:19] <ThePub> why I might mention is NOT on the main main like System Settings
[07:19] <mathieu_> ive never got the point of system settings
[07:19] <jbruckman> utorrent was easy to get working...
[07:19] <ThePub> it's apparently just a lesser clone of the control center
[07:19] <mathieu_> "its like kcontrol, only you gotta figure out where everything is"
[07:20] <ThePub> (which I remember kde having from several years ago, but wasn't there this time)
[07:20] <intelikey> ThePub no it is the kcontrol   just with switches...
[07:20] <RoKFiT> i'm installing gimp
[07:20] <intelikey> ThePub it's still there.
[07:20] <seishinbyou> jbruckman: glad it worked
[07:20] <intelikey> ThePub cli   kcontrol
[07:20] <weswh-> i added the proper packages (per the kbuntu.org website) and everything went fine for getting juk to play mp3s...but it won't play them. could this be because i installed those libarts things before i installed juk?
[07:20] <weswh-> or maybe i need to restart?
[07:21] <ThePub> intelikey: yes, yes.. I know.. I'm using it right now :)
[07:21] <weswh-> it loads the files into its db, but when i press play nothing happens
[07:21] <jbruckman> seishinbyou: thanks a lot. setting the port to 80 allows me to download torrents behind my shcool network
[07:21] <intelikey> !mp3
[07:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:21] <jbruckman> seishinbyou: i appreciate all the help
[07:21] <ThePub> intelikey: I'm just saying.. for us old farts that used this stuff ages ago, they go and replace the old system with a lesser copy of itself.  it's confusicating!  :)
[07:21] <seishinbyou> Let the festivities continue, then :)
[07:21] <intelikey> you did that weswh- ^
[07:21] <jbruckman> haha
[07:22] <intelikey> ThePub not really.   configure the menus and select to show all that stufff
[07:22] <intelikey> it's still there.
[07:22] <mathieu_> weswh-:
[07:22] <mathieu_> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \
[07:22] <mathieu_> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \
[07:22] <mathieu_> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[07:23] <mathieu_> actually, i think only libxine-extracodecs is needed in this case
[07:23] <mathieu_> but well, youll have everything covered :)
[07:23] <weswh-> amarok is playing them though, so that's a start. just not juk.
[07:24] <intelikey> or only  w32codecs  and a plugin
[07:24] <weswh-> but, this amarok had added several features that it didn't have before...so maybe i'm gonna stay put :)
[07:24] <intelikey> weswh- amarok is a kubuntu pet....
[07:25] <mathieu_> logging off, bye all
[07:25] <RoKFiT> gimp is nice
[07:25] <momal> Is anyone able to install libqt3-mt-dev ??? Its breaking on me
[07:26] <momal> !libqt3-mt-dev
[07:26] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB
[07:26] <intelikey> xpaint - simple paint program for X  <--- have used.  remanissant of  early windows  paintbrush
[07:26] <jbruckman> seishinbyou: i've downloaded 7 times as much on utorrent in 10 minutes as i did on ktorrent in about an hour...
[07:27] <homer> hi, got a problem with my monitor and the right size and khz.anyone whos familiar with editing xorg.conf?
[07:27] <RoKFiT> anything better than amule?
[07:27] <RoKFiT> homer, i had some problems when i edited xorg
[07:27] <weswh-> what's a quick and dirty system resource monitor that can dock somehow? (cpu/mem etc)
[07:28] <RoKFiT> ooh idk
[07:28] <RoKFiT> isn't there one on add applet?
[07:28] <homer> RoKFiT: me too, but i edited it now about 20 times
[07:28] <intelikey> weswh- ksysguard ?
[07:28] <intelikey> oh doc.... not sure.
[07:29] <intelikey> gkrealm ?
[07:30] <homer> anyone who has experience with the "Modeline Generator" ?
[07:30] <intelikey> gkrellm   that is.
[07:30] <homer> btw,how do i paste with keys in linux?
[07:31] <intelikey> homer maybe if you pastebin your xorg.conf  someone will have a look at it that might spot the problem....
[07:31] <intelikey> from console ?
[07:31] <intelikey> from console i use gpm   general purpose mouse support for the linux console.
[07:32] <weswh-> is there a place i can just check things out from command line or something, before i decide on an app?
[07:32] <weswh-> i'd like to see memory usage really, that's about it
[07:33] <intelikey> weswh- free      and note the second line.   "-/+ buffers/cache:"  is actual usage.
[07:33] <slop> how do i change my default movie player?
[07:33] <RoKFiT> what can i use besides amule
[07:34] <intelikey> mldonkey   or some such...
[07:34] <RoKFiT> what else
[07:34] <intelikey> RoKFiT apt-cache search <string>
[07:34] <RoKFiT> what am i searching?
[07:34] <RoKFiT> p2p?
[07:34] <RoKFiT> filesharing
[07:34] <No1Viking> I know I have kwallet installed but where can I find it?
[07:34] <intelikey> add  | less       if it returns tons and you want to browse the data.
[07:35] <weswh-> wow, this is much more efficient than xubuntu was
[07:35] <weswh-> i don't know what was wrong with that...
[07:35] <intelikey> add   | grep <string>       if you want to filter
[07:35] <ThePub> I will say, I like Konversation :)
[07:36] <intelikey> i tried that once.
[07:36] <No1Viking> I know I have kwallet installed but I cant find it. Any ideas?
[07:36] <intelikey> it was a white back ground.      haven't seen it sense.
[07:36] <ThePub> intelikey: lol, you can change that.. it's just a matter of settings, like everything else ;)
[07:37] <intelikey> kwalletmanager ?
[07:37] <weswh-> well guys thanks for all the help. this was a good first night with things.
[07:37] <intelikey> ThePub to easy to just not use it.
[07:37] <weswh-> i'll hang out and field some of the newbie questions you guys have been so patient with. night!
[07:37] <rodrigo> wuuuuuuuaaaaa cuanta gente
[07:38] <intelikey> gooday weswh-
[07:38] <rodrigo> jajajjajajja esto es como la ayuda online de kubuntu???
[07:38] <homer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35889/
[07:38] <homer> its my xorg,conf
[07:39] <rodrigo> _
[07:39] <xsacha> "Another zero day flaw has been reported in Windows Media player." hmm?
[07:40] <homer> in xp paste = ctrl+v, and in linux?
[07:40] <xsacha> middle mouse click, or ctrl+v
[07:41] <homer> now it works,hmmm ,yesterday not ?
[07:41] <xsacha> ctrl+v always works here :S
[07:41] <intelikey> homer ^v  just like xp
[07:41] <homer> lol, now i see
[07:41] <intelikey> homer do you really want line   138.     virtual 1920 1200   in there.
[07:41] <homer> but tried it yesterday and didnt find a working pate thing
[07:41] <intelikey> i'd comment that out.
[07:42] <homer> intelikey:  i dont know
[07:42] <homer> intelikey: what i want is 1600x1024@85
[07:42] <maikeru> jbruckman: are you there?
[07:42] <[Ag0ny] > can anybody help me switch from gcj to sun's jdk ? I've already installed the jdk but I'm having trouble switching the associations
[07:43] <homer> intelikey: but i just get it to 1600x1024@60
[07:43] <seven11> jbruckman: you use utorrent?
[07:43] <homer> in xp it works
[07:44] <Pete> Hi, when triing to install kubuntu, xorg starts and then the system hangs with a blank screen. any clue?
[07:44] <ThePub> is there something for kde.. kind of like the apple dock, but more like an open task list that would only display.. say.. 48pixel icons of open tasks?
[07:44] <homer> intelikey: its a 24" 16/10 ,i think
[07:44] <homer> intelikey: or 16/9
[07:45] <seven11> jbruckman: you use utorrent with wine? i would like to be as happy as you, can you tell me how you did it?
[07:45] <intelikey> homer but vertual setting just makes the desktop scrool around like it didn't fit into the box...
[07:46] <intelikey> i don't know.   i don't see anything in the file that should be causing a limit on rez.
[07:47] <homer> ?, right now i have 1920x1200@75 and its ok, just the refreshrate sucks
[07:47] <homer> intelikey: and i dont want resolution so high
[07:47] <intelikey> but what's that monitor listing at the bottom all about ?
[07:47] <homer> dont know
[07:47] <Pete> is there an option i grub I can add to prevent the freeze?
[07:47] <intelikey> you can use kde and reduce the rez
[07:48] <homer> i just installed kubuntu and fighting with a screenresolutin that sont cancers my eyes
[07:48] <intelikey> pete maybe force a frame buffer mode.    before you boot hit f1  and    i think f6 is the info on the rez pete
[07:49] <homer> intelikey: i know ,but in 1600x1024 i get it just @60
[07:49] <Pete> intelikey: thx, I'll try that
[07:50] <intelikey> homer yes that's the only modeline you have for that....  i don't know if the hardware can do higher or not.  maybe trade some rez for some refresh..... ?
[07:51] <intelikey> 1440x900@75 ?
[07:51] <homer> intelikey: i always switch my hds from win to kubuntu, so in win with the dame hardware it runs perfect
[07:52] <homer> *same
[07:52] <intelikey> homer i'm not educated in that relm.   and i don't do windows.    maybe someone else can help you with it.
[07:53] <intelikey> homer also of note,  that is xorg specific  you could check #xorg   or even  #ubuntu      for more input ?
[07:53] <homer> intelikey: just wanted to say that the hardware shouldnt be the problem cause it can do it in win
[07:54] <homer> intelikey: i searched a few forums,but didnt get answers that solved my problem
[07:54] <intelikey> check the other channels   and maybe even  ##linux
[07:55] <intelikey> your config looks ok to me.
[07:55] <homer> intelikey: lol,maybe.  but i can see the difference betwenn @75 nad@85
[07:55] <intelikey> but i would comment out the vertual setting.
[07:55] <homer> intelikey: damn im writing to slow
[07:56] <homer> *homer would be happy to have at least 85khz
[07:57] <gangien> is there a way to configure konversation so it shows all the tabs at once and i don't have to scroll around?
[07:58] <intelikey> seishinbyou homer's xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35889/
[07:58] <homer> if i look beside the monitor, i could the it flicker if its not 85khz
[07:58] <homer> and get headache after 1 or 2 hours
[07:58] <intelikey> crt's are evil....
[07:59] <homer> intelikey: but its biiiiiig
[07:59] <homer> intelikey: and on ebay cheep
[07:59] <malik__> can any one tell me how do i put network monitor in task bar so that i  wud know if my net connection is workin?
[07:59] <homer> about 50euros for a 24" was a good price
[08:00] <intelikey> for cheep lazer surgery just touch your eye to the screen......
[08:00] <seishinbyou> Modeline "1440x900" 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 +HSync +VSync
[08:00] <vge> malik__: install KNemo?
[08:00] <homer> ok , ill try that
[08:01] <intelikey> seishinbyou i can see 60 or lower
[08:02] <intelikey> had a single rate 55hz crt one time... it defnitely blinked.....
[08:03] <intelikey> ok i'm went.   good day, and good luck to your hat.
[08:03] <seishinbyou> Hmm, homer is going to come back happy...or yell at me that it didn't work...which will it be :)
[08:04] <ThePub> yelling is usually more in order
[08:04] <ThePub> or more the 'norm' :)
[08:05] <homer> i still have @75
[08:05] <seishinbyou> Well, back to the drawing board
[08:06] <homer> at least i lerned the last 2 days how to get wrightrights on kubuntu ;)
[08:06] <seishinbyou> Modeline "1440x900" 86.73 1440 1472 1800 1832 900 919 927 946
[08:07] <seishinbyou> Taken from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=254587
[08:08] <homer> no hsync or something on the end?
[08:09] <homer> i m also gonna add -Option "IgnoreEDID" "off"  -
[08:09] <homer> couldnt be worser
[08:09] <homer> get
[08:10] <homer> whats "dpms"?
[08:13] <ThePub> homer: it means X will try to automatically determine the right hsync/vrefresh for the given resolution.
[08:13] <ThePub> homer: instead of using a modeline :)
[08:13] <homer> ThePub: ah ok
[08:14] <homer> still dont getting @85
[08:15] <homer> on 800x600 i could set it to @85
[08:15] <homer> but...
[08:16] <homer> in conqueror where is the list of recently visited?
[08:18] <RogueJediX> Hey. Does anyone here use KTorrent?
[08:18] <slop> help!  in my unending quest to figure out why i don't get sound in flash 9, i tried running firefox in console...when i watch a flash movie, i get a TON of errors in the console that don't mean much to me....could anyone be so kind to take a look at them, and see if it means anything to them?  they are posted here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35892/
[08:18] <LoneShadow> anyone running kubuntu on usb flash drive ?
[08:20] <[Ag0ny] > can anybody help me switch from gcj to sun's jdk ? I've already installed the jdk but I'm having trouble switching the associations
[08:21] <RoKFiT> is it possible to set gimp to zoom with the mouse?
[08:22] <ThePub> [Ag0ny] : update-alternatives --config java
[08:22] <ThePub> [Ag0ny] : ^^^ didn't work?
[08:23] <cpk1> LoneShadow: i've ran kubuntu off a hdd via usb...
[08:23] <fildo> *gone*
[08:24] <[Ag0ny] > ThePub, trying now
[08:25] <jbruckman> seven11: sorry, I was away. Yes, I use utorrent
[08:25] <[Ag0ny] > ThePub, nope
[08:25] <jbruckman> seven11: if you're still there I'd be willing to help
[08:29] <seven11> jbruckman: i use this page at the moment http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[08:29] <jbruckman> seven11: you should be fine then
[08:30] <jbruckman> seven11: if you need any help though, let me know.
[08:30] <seven11> thanks jbruckman
[08:30] <jbruckman> seven11: no problem.
[08:36] <RoKFiT> why are transparencies so hard in the gimp?
[08:44] <jbruckman> !nvidia
[08:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:47] <ThePub> is there a way to add/remove items from the system menu applet?
[08:48] <Jucato> ThePub: you mean hide them?
[08:48] <ThePub> no, I was thinking it'd be nice to add folders to it
[08:48] <Jucato> ah... then, afaik, no
[08:48] <ThePub> since it opens a konq window directly, it's way nicer than the file list applet
[08:49] <[Ag0ny] > ThePub, I figured it out, it only took rebuilding my repositories twice :x
[08:51] <ThePub> I really like the "places" menu under gnome
[08:51] <ThePub> it's pretty convenient.  the system menu applet under kde could offer the same feature if the items were editable
[08:54] <euwaex> witam
[08:55] <euwaex> czy ktos moze mnie powiedziec gdzie kubuntu trzyma pliki thunderbirda? w jakim katalogu
[08:56] <lotusleaf> Is anyone using Compiz in the repos with Kubuntu? Or must I use it with gnome? I'm not interested in beryl
[09:11] <jbruckman> back.
[09:11] <jbruckman> !beryl
[09:11] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:16] <homer> lalalalalalala.... i get my favorite monitor resolution 1600x1024@85
[09:17] <flaccid> i prefer 1680 x 1080
[09:17] <flaccid> *1050
[09:18] <homer> that was a big quest for me getting this resolution now
[09:18] <flaccid> drivers?
[09:19] <homer> didnt worked all the time, and now i just added -all- options i could find from forums ,and now it works
[09:19] <flaccid> fair enough
[09:20] <homer> just dont know witch option is responsible for making my monitor work
[09:20] <homer> now
[09:20] <flaccid> option?
[09:20] <homer> ya, in xorg.conf
[09:20] <homer> added so much ;)
[09:20] <flaccid> is this for the monitor or the card?
[09:21] <homer> hmmm, must take a look
[09:22] <homer> for the card i added :  Option "NvAGP" "1" ,  Option "RenderAccel" "true",   Option "NoLogo" "on"
[09:23] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: you there?
[09:23] <homer> and for the monitor i added:Option "UseEDID" "false",  Option "dpms"
[09:23] <homer> and modelines
[09:24] <homer> but they dont worked without the options
[09:25] <homer> so, now that i dont get headache working with kubuntu, ican now try to understand linux
[09:25] <maikeru> jbruckman: hes preoccupied
[09:26] <jbruckman> maikeru: k
[09:26] <homer> how can i make an autostart entry?
[09:27] <homer> wanted yakuake to start when kubuntu is starting
[09:28] <seishinbyou> make a symbolic link from ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:29] <seishinbyou> my mind is fuzzy...  ln -s yakuake ~/.kde/Autostart  ?
[09:29] <homer> ehm....? just want yakuake to start at startup
[09:30] <maikeru> jbruckman: is it working?
[09:30] <seishinbyou> That is what you do.  You make a shorcut (so to speak) from the .kde/Autostart folder in your home directory to the program you want to run
[09:30] <Jucato> ln -s /usr/bin/yakuake ~/.kde/Autostart/
[09:30] <Linux_Galore> homer run yakuake in a terminal log out and dont close the terminal then log back in it should auto start from that point forward
[09:31] <Jucato> or turn on "Restore from previous session"
[09:31] <seishinbyou> Isn't "Restore from previous session" the default?
[09:31] <Jucato> (he might have turned it off?)
[09:32] <Jucato> yes it is on by default (ick...)
[09:33] <jbruckman> !qt_plugins_3.3rc
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt_plugins_3.3rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <homer> ok,opened in terminal,loged ou/in,is there, but i have to find out if its still there when i reboot
[09:37] <homer> how can i have a "root" session without entering all the time my pw
[09:37] <homer> ?
[09:38] <seishinbyou> sudo su -
[09:38] <homer> like writing the pw once and kubuntu dont asks me again till i log out
[09:38] <homer> sudo su - mypassword?
[09:39] <seishinbyou> that will log you into the root account, though it isn't always a good idea to run everything as root
[09:39] <Jucato> sudo -i
[09:40] <homer> yah , but right now im trying to build my kubuntu up and every 2 min i have to type my pw
[09:44] <homer> both dont seem to work for me , i entered :sudo su -   and other time sudo -i    but when i click on adeptmanager he still wants my pw?
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: #monmouth
[09:46] <maikeru> !version
[09:46] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[09:47] <homer> !sound
[09:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:48] <homer> !root
[09:48] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:52] <jbruckman> is there a way to make the bot go into a channel I make?
[10:03] <niblets> I have a question about Konqueror, when I am browsing the net, if I dont click a link or a refresh every ten-fifteen seconds, it dsiconnects from the server, and then when I do link somewhere, it takes extra time to start up and then start downloading again. Si tehre any way I can cahnge it to have a 2min countdown or anything close?
[10:05] <niblets> any ideas?
[10:05] <llutz> moin
[10:06] <vorpal> does the same happen in firefox/opera/lynx/whatever
[10:06] <vorpal> ?
[10:07] <niblets> vorpal_I dont have any other web browsers, I havent had a chance to install them, as I only upgraded to edgy yesterday
[10:08] <vorpal> well it sounds like a problem somewhere other than in konqueror.
[10:08] <vorpal> is it dialup or cable/ADSL?
[10:10] <niblets> DSL, its nothing to do with the network speeds, as when I give it a task, it takes tiem only to restart the server, yet when it loads the actual page data, is it as quick as normal
[10:10] <niblets> I was just querying whether it was a timer function set in Konqueror, as it is not only web-based, and if it can be changed
[10:11] <vorpal> niblets: i was about to ask if other things could get online with out probs and suggest you try seeing if konversation would work.... then i realised i'm stupid
[10:11] <vorpal> lol
[10:12] <niblets> vorpal: dont worry about it, I have had blonde moments today, havent slept in over 48 hours, so I though I'd give up searching through Konsole and ask someone who knows what they are doing
[10:13] <tomlikestorock> in windows you can hold down alt and then type on the number pad to get different ascii characters, or use charmap to get them as well. how do you do this in kde?
[10:14] <niblets> vorpal: I am also on Kopete, so it hasnt anything to do with the connection.
[10:15] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: there's kcharselect
[10:15] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: although personally i prefer gnome-character-map
[10:15] <tomlikestorock> can you still do the numpad ascii chars?
[10:16] <JohnFlux> nah
[10:16] <tomlikestorock> or something like it?
[10:16] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: what sort of characters are you after?
[10:16] <vorpal> niblets: was it a clean install or an upgrade?
[10:16] <tomlikestorock> the squared number
[10:16] <tomlikestorock> 2 superscript
[10:17] <JohnFlux> alt+2
[10:17] <JohnFlux> 
[10:17] <JohnFlux> alt+gr 2
[10:17] <niblets> vorpal: I installed Kubuntu 6.06 then upgraded to edgy straight away. So not exactly a clean install.
[10:17] <JohnFlux> the alt on the right hand side
[10:17] <tomlikestorock> not on this laptop :(
[10:18] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: if you setup scim input, then you can type in the characters much easier
[10:18] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: unfortunately it's still a bit of a pain to setup
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> forget it then :)
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> kcharselect will work for now
[10:19] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: hmm.  you only have one alt key?
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> nope, too
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> but alt gr doesn't do anything
[10:19] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: use gnome character map
[10:19] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: oh
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> yeah
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> 's weird
[10:19] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: press alt-gr 2    does nothing?
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> yup, nothing
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> well, I get a 2
[10:20] <tomlikestorock> but not a super script two
[10:20] <JohnFlux> what about alt-gr [  then e
[10:20] <JohnFlux> 
[10:20] <tomlikestorock> [e
[10:20] <tomlikestorock> heh
[10:20] <JohnFlux> hmmmm
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> I'm not worried about it
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> thanks, though
[10:21] <JohnFlux> you might be able to check in the system settings
[10:21] <JohnFlux> and check that alt-gr  is setup as the compose key
[10:21] <JohnFlux> it's really useful to have
[10:21] <vorpal> niblets: The only thing i can think of is a brute force solution of uninstalling konqueror and deleting any files in .kde/share/* that have konqueror in the name then reinstalling konqueror
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> oh, also ,I just recently saw a crap ton of updates come down the pipe - what was up with that?
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> ?
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> does that have anything to do with the release of the new feisty?
[10:22] <vorpal> or just using firefox
[10:22] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: dunno
[10:22] <JohnFlux> niblets: what's the problem sorry?
[10:22] <niblets> vorpal: I might try firefox first. I know its bad, but where can I get ahold of it? Never used it before
[10:23] <niblets> johnflux: (REPEAT) I have a question about Konqueror, when I am browsing the net, if I dont click a link or a refresh every ten-fifteen seconds, it dsiconnects from the server, and then when I do link somewhere, it takes extra time to start up and then start downloading again. Si tehre any way I can cahnge it to have a 2min countdown or anything close?
[10:23] <musya> is there a flash player for kubuntu that works as far as web apps go?
[10:23] <vorpal> open up a konsole and type: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:24] <niblets> vorpal: Cheers
[10:24] <vorpal> musya: the package for the firefox plugin works
[10:25] <musya> i cant view them
[10:25] <JohnFlux> niblets: from a konsole, do  "ping slashdot.org"
[10:25] <JohnFlux> niblets: it should say: PING slashdot.org (66.35.250.150) 56(84) bytes of data.
[10:26] <JohnFlux> niblets: it should say that immediately
[10:26] <niblets> it does
[10:27] <vorpal> musya: you need to download it first (and then restart konqueror). Type the following in konsole: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <JohnFlux> niblets: hmm, not a resolving problem then
[10:28] <JohnFlux> niblets: ask on #khtml  although people might not be awake yet
[10:28] <musya> i would assume that its not free then?
[10:28] <niblets> musya: It is free, dont worry about the name
[10:29] <vorpal> not free in terms of freedom
[10:29] <niblets> JohnFlux: Will do, cheers
[10:29] <JohnFlux> musya: free as in money, not free as in freedom
[10:29] <JohnFlux> musya: it is free as in money, not free as in freedom
[10:29] <musya> oh,ok, well ill get it figured out then i saw it before just thought it wasnt free, ok thanks!
[10:29] <niblets> Yea, I had to get my flash plugins sorted today, threw me off too, but Linux is pretty much 1005free. as far as I know
[10:30] <vorpal> there it also flashplayer-mozzila which is free in both senses, but doesn't work with all sites (including youtube)
[10:30] <niblets> *%
[10:31] <niblets> JohnFlux: what should I be asking khtml?
[10:31] <JohnFlux> how to fix your problem :P
[10:31] <JohnFlux> just say what you said here
[10:31] <vorpal> niblets: the same thing you asked here
[10:32] <vorpal> khtml is the engine that konqueror uses
[10:32] <vorpal> all the konqueror devs and stuff hang out there
[10:32] <niblets> vorpal: Ohk, sorry. I'm kinda new to Linux
[10:32] <vorpal> don't be sorry
[10:33] <vorpal> that's what this place is for
[10:33] <vorpal> niblets: did firefox work?
[10:35] <niblets> vorpal: I am going to wait until morning, I havent slept in a while, and I don't think I can manage setting up another program today. I'd probably spaz out and pull Linux off my machine =D I will do it in the morning, when I finish sorting out Beryl (pain in the bum)
[10:36] <vorpal> beryl? you're brave
[10:36] <vorpal> firefox should just work without any probs
[10:36] <vorpal> no set up required
[10:36] <vorpal> anyway night
[10:37] <niblets> Aye, I got it to work, and all was fine, then it suddenly decided not to load any images. So I had to restart session, and am yet to brave fixing it. Though all I really need to do is make sure the drivers are all set in zeroconf.
[10:37] <niblets> *any images meaning ANYTHING at all
[10:38] <seven11> jbruckman: do you have tracker problems? keeps telling me that tracker is invalid
[10:40] <niblets> vorpal: have you tried Beryl?
[10:42] <vorpal> niblets: no way. my laptop is from the mid ninties. I need to use the alternative install CD cause it doesn't have enough ram. Beryl would melt my motherboard
[10:43] <edgy> Hi, how can I change the screen color depth in kubuntu?
[10:44] <niblets> vorpal: Even when I got it working, my P4 had trouble with it when it was fully equipped with all the berries and sweets. Makes for some excellent eye candy, but all I really want is the cube change and thats it.
[10:44] <vorpal> niblets: how's this for a deal: You buy me a laptop that can run beryl and i'll give you all the support you ever need :P
[10:45] <vorpal> yeah i've seen it in action. It's pretty sweet, but i'm not really that big a fan of eyecandy
[10:46] <niblets> vorpal: Hows this for a better deal, you give me the laptop and Support. And I'll TELL you what its like =D
[10:46] <vorpal> niblets: btw, you can change virtual desktops with plain old kde without beryl (sorry since you are new to linux you might not know)
[10:47] <vorpal> lol
[10:47] <vorpal> i think not
[10:47] <niblets> vorpal: Yea, I have got 6 set up. I just like the spinnyness. =P
[10:47] <vorpal> :)
[10:47] <vorpal> fair enough
[10:48] <niblets> and the fact taht I have a software program that allows for a different image on each desktop. which is plain awesome
[10:48] <vorpal> what is it? I thought kde let you do that
[10:49] <vorpal> i dunno i haven't used kde in ages
[10:49] <niblets> I dont actually know, a friend of mine set it up (and helped with a lot of this installation) But I am not sure if KDE has that software, I might look for it though. I'd use it
[10:52] <niblets> vorpal: Catch you another time maybe. I am hitting the shower, then I might be on after, if I can stay awake. the 48+ hours is getting to me
[10:53] <vorpal> cya
[10:53] <vorpal> hope kubunt works out for ya
[10:55] <jbruckman> seven11: no, i have no tracker problems.
[10:55] <jbruckman> seven11: are you sure that it's not your torrent?
[10:56] <jbruckman> seven11: i'm getting 300Kb/s DL and 600 Kb/S UL
[10:56] <seven11> problem solved thanks again
[11:05] <edgy> Sirs, how can I install a downloaded .deb so it install its dependencies automatically?
[11:06] <jbruckman> just use sudo apt-get install <package>
[11:06] <jbruckman> if you can
[11:06] <vorpal> edgy: as in a package that isn't available thru the ubuntu repositories?
[11:07] <berkes> my adept updater just performed a huge upgrade of all sorts of kde upgrades. Where whas that for?
[11:07] <Jucato> no you can't do that with deb
[11:08] <Jucato> berkes: most probably bug fixes and patches that have been waiting since Edgy was released
[11:08] <Jucato> edgy: you can't do that with .deb packages, such is the nature of the .deb (same goes for .rpm)
[11:09] <seven11> jbruckman: nice speed i sit on a 21 km2 island in the gulf of thailand and i am happy if i get 30 kb/s :)
[11:09] <vorpal> berkes: its nothing to worry about, it happens all the time
[11:09] <jbruckman> seven11: haha, nice
[11:10] <berkes> vorpal: yes, I know, but never this much.
[11:10] <berkes> this was about 80M of kde libs and so. But I thought it would've been an general bugfix release thingy :)
[11:10] <Jucato> berkes: a lot of bugs and patches from KDE were released just a few days since edgy was released. what's surprising is that it only came now
[11:11] <Jucato> of course, presuming this update was for those bugs....
[11:13] <edgy> vorpal: yes, webmin exactly
[11:13] <edgy> Jucato: so what shall I do?
[11:15] <dan__> Hello, everyone... I can't compile my kernel, I get an odd error... Is there a special channel for this topic, or could anyone help me here? Thanks.
[11:15] <edgy> vorpal, Jucato: dpkg -i would install webmin and leave apt-get in a non-stable stage due to the missing packages
[11:15] <edgy> dan__: I guess you can ask here
[11:17] <vorpal> edgy: just make sure you have all the dependincies before you run dpkg and it should be right
[11:18] <edgy> vorpal: how can I tell the dependencies in advance?
[11:18] <bmcage> does somebody here now how to remove an entry from system:/remote ?
[11:19] <vorpal> edgy: where did you get it?
[11:19] <vorpal> did they tell you?
[11:19] <dan__> edgy: After make modules, I get this; make[3] : *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.o'.  Stop. ; What shoul I do?
[11:20] <edgy> vorpal: from webmin site
[11:20] <edgy> vorpal: I can't find it in their site
[11:22] <vorpal> well you could run dpkg -i see its errors and then run dpkg -r (that's remove) and then install all the dependencies
[11:22] <djdarkman> hy ,how can I share my internet connection ,what do I have to set?
[11:23] <jbruckman> whatare some good photo editors for kubuntu?
[11:23] <edgy> dan__: I don't know but perhaps someone else can help you
[11:23] <edgy> jbruckman: krita maybe
[11:24] <jbruckman> edgy: thanks!
[11:24] <djdarkman> what do I have to set up to be able to share my internet connection
[11:25] <edgy> djdarkman: one of those firewalls programs I guess
[11:25] <Frederick> folks wich is the comand n the american kb to display de symbol used for degrees and numbers as first second and so on?
[11:26] <dan__> After setting the config and trying "make modules", it starts, and then I get this: make[3] : *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.o'.  Stop.
[11:26] <dan__> Does anyone have an idea?
[11:26] <ScarFreewill> !java
[11:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:27] <djdarkman> how can I quickle enable the net sharing?
[11:28] <Frederick> does kde has any character map aplication?
[11:28] <djdarkman> I mean what is the iptables command that resets the firewall settings?
[11:30] <llutz> iptables -X
[11:30] <kraut> moin
[11:31] <edgy> Frederick: why not you try charmap
[11:33] <gabry2887> ciao a tutti
[11:33] <gabry2887> :)
[11:34] <edgy> djdarkman: try firestarter
[11:35] <Jucato> Frederick: kcharselect, I think
[11:35] <Jucato> !kcharselect
[11:35] <ubotu> kcharselect: character selector for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 340 kB
[11:35] <Jucato> Frederick: ^^^^^^^^^^
[11:35] <edgy> !webmin
[11:35] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[11:36] <edgy> ubotu: avoid it?! there is a .deb file on their site why you not just grab it and use it or report a bug if you feel there is instead of this silly reply? ;)
[11:37] <Jucato> edgy: you do know you are talking to a bot, right? ;)
[11:37] <edgy> Jucato: yes I know ;)
[11:38] <Jucato> and just because there's a deb file on the webmin site doesn't mean it's supported by Ubuntu and Debian
[11:38] <edgy> Jucato: yes but it's working properly and I believe some one should jump and support it it's a very important and useful package really
[11:39] <vorpal> edgy: what's webmin?
[11:39] <edgy> Jucato: webmin supports ubuntu and debian and I hope ubuntu and debian also supports it.
[11:39] <edgy> vorpal: a tool to administer everything in your pc
[11:40] <edgy> vorpal: it could also work like cpanel to hosting services
[11:40] <noiesmo> edgy, webmin is considered a security threat  so I hear
[11:40] <vorpal> everything on your pc? that's quite a claim
[11:41] <edgy> noiesmo: nonsense
[11:41] <edgy> vorpal: yes it's _almost_ everythinig ;)
[11:41] <maikeru_> !flash
[11:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <edgy> noiesmo: every package could have security issues
[11:43] <noiesmo> edgy, yeah what ever were all aloud our own options but this is off topic anyway
[11:44] <lele> hi guys
[11:44] <noiesmo> hi
[11:44] <chrismo> hi
[11:44] <lele> hey
[11:44] <lele> need help here :P
[11:45] <lele> a lil help
[11:45] <lele> how can i create videotutorial with ubuntu?
[11:46] <lele> ......
[11:47] <chrismo> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/
[11:47] <lele> :)
[11:47] <B-Minus_> erm
[11:47] <lele> tnx
[11:47] <B-Minus_> major upgrade ?
[11:48] <chrismo> lele, theres also istambul but I use the setup in that guide
[11:49] <chrismo> lele, oops istanbul
[11:49] <lele> ;)
[11:51] <lele> chrismo: i love you bwahuahua
[11:51] <lele> tnx m8
[11:51] <lele> :P
[11:51] <chrismo> lele, anytime
[11:54] <vorpal> lele and chrismo sitting in a tree K I S S I N G
[11:54] <vorpal> sorry
[11:54] <vorpal> i'm very tired
[11:54] <chrismo> lele, here my vid on screencasting http://superuser.com.au/wiki/index.php/Screencasting_Libre_Software_Video%28flash%29
[11:54] <lele> lol
[11:55] <lele> chrismo: i serching only for the prog ;)
[11:55] <lele> sorry for my english :P
[11:55] <lele> i'm italian
[11:55] <lele> ^^
[11:55] <chrismo> lele, i just followed that ubuntu blog guide and modified it a little
[11:55] <lele> :)
[11:59] <lele> chrismo: it work....tnx u are very kind
[12:00] <lele> ;)
[12:00] <chrismo> lele, leave a comment on his blog :)
[12:00] <chrismo> lele, :)
[12:01] <lele> ;)
[12:02] <Voker57> help!! I can't login to system!
[12:02] <Voker57> It throws me back to login screen
[12:02] <lele> start the system with command line
[12:02] <lele> then do adduser name
[12:03] <Voker57> eh
[12:03] <Voker57> I added a user
[12:03] <Voker57> he gets the same problem
[12:06] <noiesmo> Voker57, long shot check if any disk space left on your system if not only root could login and delete some files etc
[12:06] <Voker57> There is 1.2 gbytes free
[12:07] <noiesmo> Voker57, k
[12:07] <Voker57> and i still can login as root in recovery mode
[12:07] <noiesmo> Voker57, when did this problem occur after upgrade ?
[12:07] <Voker57> noiesmo: yeah it showed up when i installed nvidia drivers
[12:07] <Voker57> now i erased them but...
[12:08] <noiesmo> Voker57, ok are you 32bit or 64 bit, dapper or edgy
[12:09] <Voker57> 32bit 6.06 dapper
[12:09] <noiesmo> Voker57, how did you install nvidia drivers
[12:10] <Voker57> noiesmo: from reps
[12:10] <noiesmo> Voker57, ok this is how I would remommend to install nvidia-glx and adjust xorg.conf file
[12:11] <noiesmo> Voker57, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[12:11] <noiesmo> Voker57, video card model please
[12:12] <Voker57> noiesmo: nvidia fx5900xt
[12:13] <noiesmo> Voker57, ok fine this should work no probs
[12:13] <sb9> how do i switch off SELinux ?
[12:13] <sb9> i need a command
[12:13] <jetc> anyone know how to configure tightvncserver?
[12:13] <sb9> i cant remember it
[12:13] <noiesmo> Voker57, open konsole and in one line > sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[12:13] <Voker57> i can do that via adept
[12:14] <noiesmo> Voker57, as long as the  linux-restricted-modules match your kernel
[12:14] <vorpal> sb9: maybe try #SELinux
[12:17] <noiesmo> Voker57, ok you do what ever man, i was just trying to help with your problem, and make sure that things would work
[12:18] <Voker57> noiesmo: yeah i understand
[12:28] <SoulSeeker> how to add some sites to my sources list ?
[12:29] <Voker57> I reinstalled the drivers
[12:29] <Voker57> but i get the same screen
[12:30] <Voker57> BTW, what means "FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing."
[12:30] <Voker57> ?
[12:30] <Voker57> And where to modify this refcount
[12:31] <noiesmo> Voker57, maybe check log files like /var/log/kdm.log
[12:31] <Voker57> and what to serach there?
[12:32] <Voker57> I get this line in Xorg.0.log
[12:32] <Voker57> it is last, so everything crashes after it
[12:33] <noiesmo> Voker57, can you pastebin your xorg.conf file please
[12:33] <Voker57> noiesmo: ok wait
[12:35] <Voker57> noiesmo: http://nbl.yurx.com/xorg.conf
[12:38] <Voker57> noiesmo: any ideas?
[12:39] <noiesmo> Voker57, not sure sorry
[12:39] <Voker57> noiesmo: wtf is refcount?
[12:44] <Voker57> WTF is refcount???
[12:44] <Voker57> Where to fix this warning??
[12:45] <Chousuke> Voker57: I don't think that warning is anything to worry about
[12:46] <Voker57> Anyway
[12:46] <Chousuke> Maybe you have a duplicate entry in your configs somewhere.
[12:46] <Voker57> What is refcount?
[12:46] <Chousuke> reference count
[12:46] <Voker57> This is the last string in conf
[12:46] <Voker57> ok i will search them for a double entry
[12:48] <noiesmo> Voker57, just reading a post on forum and they found if they used gdm instead of kdm as the login manager it worked they just choose kde as session in gdm
[12:48] <noiesmo> Voker57, near bottom of post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=445456
[12:48] <Voker57> noiesmo: hmmm! where to get the gdm?
[12:48] <noiesmo> Voker57, sudo apt-get install gdm
[12:48] <noiesmo> Voker57, then just select to use instead of kdm
[12:50] <Voker57> 6 mbytes. That sucks
[12:52] <noiesmo> Voker57, are you running xgl
[12:52] <Voker57> nope
[12:52] <noiesmo> Voker57, k
[12:54] <Voker57> nice those people have the similar problem
[12:56] <francesco> ciao a tutti
[12:56] <francesco> c' un iotaliano?
[12:56] <Voker57> nope
[12:56] <francesco> sono appena entrato nel mondo di kubuntu
[12:56] <francesco> e volevo alcune delucidazioni
[12:57] <francesco> se  possibile :)
[12:57] <francesco> lol
[12:57] <francesco> nessuno vuole parlarE?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> !it
[12:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:58] <ailean> if (when feisty is ready) i decide to upgrade using the Kubuntu disc from Ubuntu, will there be any problem?
[12:58] <ailean> i.e. ubuntu edgy -> kubuntu feisty
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ailean: right now probably
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ailean: very little issues should arise though
[12:59] <ailean> gnomefreak, nah, i mean when it's ready
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ailean: at release time?
[12:59] <ailean> aye
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ailean: well most bugs should be worked out by than
[12:59] <ailean> gnomefreak, i installed kubuntu-desktop before and it caused a few niggling problems
[01:00] <ailean> but i think i'm going to go completely kubuntu
[01:00] <francesco> ei come si installano le applicazioni come skype su kubuntu?
[01:00] <ailean> !it
[01:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:00] <gnomefreak> francesco: #ubuntu-it
[01:00] <gnomefreak> or #kubuntu-it
[01:01] <ailean> francesco, si vorrei restare in #kubuntu, parla inglese
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ailean: int he next few weeks i will be testing more and i will see what we can/cant fix but its way early to know for release
[01:01] <ailean> no probs
[01:01] <ailean> ta :)
[01:02] <ailean> heh
[01:02] <ailean> gnomefreak, anything i can help with?
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ailean: not yet everything seems smooth :)
[01:03] <ailean> gah i hate l33tsp33k
[01:03] <DJ_Stefan0> Where did you guys hide /etc/resolv.conf ? i want to edit the nameserver variable so i can connect to the internet?
[01:04] <DJ_Stefan0> i go ifconfig 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0
[01:04] <Voker57> the crap is the same
[01:04] <DJ_Stefan0> then route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[01:04] <DJ_Stefan0> but there is no /etc/resolv.conf for me to edit
[01:04] <DJ_Stefan0> :@
[01:04] <Voker57> instAlled gdm, no difference
[01:04] <noiesmo> Voker57, dam
[01:05] <Voker57> noiesmo: ?
[01:05] <noiesmo> Voker57, no good bugger
[01:06] <Voker57> eh
[01:07] <intelikey> hmmm i'd like to configure xsane but all i can get out of the app itself is an error message "no device found"
[01:07] <noiesmo> Voker57, I mean thats not good hope it would work
[01:07] <intelikey> anyone got clues on sane ?
[01:09] <DJ_Stefan0> any1 here NOT USING DHCP?
[01:09] <DJ_Stefan0> lol
[01:09] <intelikey> there doesn't seem to be any scanner mentioned in system > peripherals       ???
[01:10] <intelikey> DJ_Stefan0 i'm not.
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> well then tell me how to get my networking up and running
[01:10] <intelikey> but that wont help you.
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> i did the ifconfig part
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> i did the route part..
[01:10] <intelikey> DJ_Stefan0 i have no clue.
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> i just need it to know the DNS
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> :@
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> coz Kubuntu has hidden resolv.conf
[01:11] <intelikey> DJ_Stefan0 it's still right where it always was.  /etc/resolv.conf
[01:11] <DJ_Stefan0> grr well my Kubuntu instalation must be corrupt then
[01:11] <DJ_Stefan0> lol
[01:12] <DJ_Stefan0> coz i have no /etc/resolv.conf...
[01:12] <DJ_Stefan0> only a resolv.h!
[01:12] <DJ_Stefan0> lol
[01:12] <intelikey> !hidden | DJ_Stefan0
[01:12] <ubotu> DJ_Stefan0: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[01:12] <Voker57> what a brilliant feature
[01:12] <Voker57> Maybe let's develop a new one, hiding half of a screen?
[01:12] <intelikey> yep another bone headed idea from .....
[01:13] <intelikey> hey and lets hide all files with .name
[01:13] <Voker57> rm *.*
[01:14] <intelikey> Voker57 why not just *   you only intend files with . in the name ?
[01:14] <DJ_Stefan0> ah i made 1
[01:14] <DJ_Stefan0> thanx
[01:14] <DJ_Stefan0> anyway
[01:15] <intelikey> rm *.* wont do much on a linux box....
[01:15] <DJ_Stefan0> lol
[01:15] <DJ_Stefan0> yes.. rm * ftw
[01:15] <DJ_Stefan0> :)
[01:15] <intelikey> reset a few configs is all you'll get out of that.
[01:16] <intelikey> now anyone know scanners ?   or sane ?     or how to get them to play togather ?
[01:19] <eilker> how can i make konqueror to open maximized ?
[01:19] <eilker> i mean  on opening
[01:20] <eilker> i tried with  ctrl key, but i couldnt
[01:20] <noiesmo> eilker, open konquerour then make fuillscreen then go settings save view profile
[01:22] <eilker> noiesmo: thank you, it is done, by the way, do we have a way for softwares too ? or must it be done with each software's settings  ?
[01:22] <intelikey> or even better. the upper left corner of konqueror, click the button select advanced > special window settings
[01:22] <noiesmo> eilker, think it will be in the apps
[01:23] <intelikey> again you can do as i just mentioned and make it global
[01:23] <noiesmo> eilker, you can set which apps open which file type
[01:24] <intelikey> use the little icon in the title bar...   that's what it's there for.
[01:26] <eilker> intelikey: yes i found  special window settings
[01:27] <intelikey> you can do lots of fun stuff to one or all windows there.
[01:28] <intelikey> note; if you make all windows open maximiZed   then even dialog windows are maxed....   not the prettiest thing in the world.
[01:29] <eilker> i didnt do it, but i wanna make it open in / , in opening
[01:29] <eilker> now it is opening blank
[01:30] <intelikey> so a usb all in one scanner/printer/fax what device will the scanner be ?   sda ?    /proc/usb/something ????
[01:31] <eilker> sorry ?
[01:31] <eilker> i wanna have konqueror as we write / and enter in adresss bar, i wanna view / in opening
[01:32] <eilker> now it is blank
[01:33] <eilker> now i have 2 profiles, kubuntu file manager and web browser
[01:33] <eilker> what about the others ?_
[01:33] <eilker> do we have more ?
[01:34] <intelikey> you can make more.
[01:34] <intelikey> customize and save profile
[01:35] <eilker>  i wanna have konqueror as we write / and enter in adresss bar, i wanna view / in opening
[01:35] <eilker> how to do it ?
[01:37] <eilker> done, thank you
[01:43] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[01:49] <ThePub> sane is straight forward, just install the backend you need for your piece of hardware
[01:52] <uschelle> hi
[02:01] <vorpal> cya'll
[02:06] <teja> hai all
[02:12] <intelikey> anyone savy' enough to help me get a scanner set up ?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> hmm, have you tried kooka ?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> setup my scanner very easily
[02:14] <BluesKaj> it's in graphics in the kicker
[02:14] <intelikey> BluesKaj i will.
[02:18] <wjasd> how can i install kubuntu 6.10 fron harddisk
[02:19] <marc_> hello
[02:20] <marc_> Can someone help me with a little problem?
[02:20] <BluesKaj> marc_, just ask, and if some has an answer he/she will reply
[02:20] <marc_> ah thx ...
[02:20] <marc_> Ok
[02:21] <wjasd> how can i install kubuntu 6.10 fron harddisk
[02:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj looks like a nice app but no option to setup a scanner that i can find in it....
[02:21] <BluesKaj> !Install
[02:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:21] <marc_> Ive jsut installed kubuntu .. and need to figure out some things. Add first I would like to install Firefox with the graphical Add/Remove Programms  Programm.
[02:22] <marc_> But Firefox (and many other Programms) are "grey" and Im unable to select them?!
[02:22] <intelikey> !ff
[02:22] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:22] <marc_> Any ideas?
[02:22] <intelikey> marc_  ^
[02:22] <marc_> !ff?
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <marc_> ahh
[02:23] <marc_> :)
[02:23] <marc_> thx ... im going to look that page...
[02:23] <intelikey> marc_ basicly just install it.
[02:24] <BluesKaj> marc_, use synaptic or adept to install firefox ...quite sure it's in the edgy repository
[02:24] <intelikey> or sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:24] <marc_> But ... if it would have been installed, why isnt it in the "Internet" section of the Starmenu?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> intelikey, kooka didn't see your scanner ?
[02:24] <wjasd> can kubuntu 6.10 be used as livecd ?
[02:24] <intelikey> BluesKaj no.
[02:24] <marc_> yes
[02:25] <marc_> yes @ wjasd
[02:25] <wjasd> when i boot it up ,it asked a passwd
[02:25] <wjasd> what is the username
[02:25] <dooby> wjsad - very strange
[02:26] <intelikey> ubuntu is the user name on the *buntu live CD s
[02:26] <wjasd> may be  i used the wrong initrd.gz or vmlinuz
[02:26] <wjasd> where can i download a proper ones
[02:26] <dooby> anyone have problems with shutting down 6.10?
[02:26] <dooby> my pc just stalls
[02:26] <cloakable> Nope
[02:27] <ThePub> intelikey: what's the deal with Sane btw?
[02:27] <wjasd> intelikey, ,what is the passwd
[02:28] <zorglu_> does edgy live cd has support for xgl/aixgl ?
[02:29] <wjasd> where can i download vmlinuz and initrd.gz to start a kubuntu iso file  from hard disk
[02:30] <ylz> EHLO
[02:31] <ylz> does anyone know how I can start the text-mode installer out of edgy installation CD (desktop i386)
[02:31] <ehird> wheeee
[02:31] <ehird> my new livebox modem/router thingy works in linux out of the box with no configuration
[02:31] <ehird> i am happy
[02:34] <ehird> *dances*
[02:34] <marc_> Ok, firefox seems to be installed ... with what command can I start it?! *sry*
[02:34] <dooby> firefox
[02:34] <BluesKaj> ylz, ctrl+alt+F1 ( I think)
[02:35] <marc_> no...its not firefox .. :(
[02:35] <ThePub> is there a place to tell kde to only open new windows on a certain screen?
[02:35] <marc_> somethings....strange :()
[02:35] <BluesKaj> ylz, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the GUI scrn
[02:35] <dooby> strange
[02:35] <ylz> BluesKaj: I get a usual text console... what's the startup name of the text-mode installer?
[02:35] <dooby> here it works fine just typing 'firefox'
[02:35] <marc_> mhrmf ...
[02:35] <dooby> can you find in your menuy list?
[02:36] <marc_> No!
[02:36] <marc_> Thats also disturbing me...
[02:36] <ylz> marc_: try mozilla-firefox
[02:37] <marc_> doesnt work at all ...
[02:37] <dooby> maybe uninstalling en trying again?
[02:38] <dooby> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[02:38] <marc_> mhm ... I hoped to passed that "M$-instalation-procedure" ;)
[02:38] <dooby> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:38] <dooby> i believe that
[02:38] <dooby> but in your console it's not that much work
[02:38] <dooby> ;)
[02:38] <marc_> ^_^
[02:38] <pedroca> ubuntu br
[02:39] <pedroca> como uso?
[02:39] <xwolf-> 'checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!'
[02:39] <xwolf-> how can i configure this?
[02:39] <pedroca> quero acessar
[02:39] <xwolf-> pedroca o canal em portugues? #ubuntu-br
[02:39] <pedroca> vlw
[02:39] <xwolf-> !xlibs
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <xwolf-> !x
[02:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:40] <ylz> !text-mode
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about text-mode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <dooby> @MArc_ maybe you could check whether your firefox is in your PATH variable
[02:40] <BluesKaj> ylz , isn't there a text mode install option on the live cd  bootup page ?
[02:41] <dooby> ie check if your firefox is in the range of your PATH variable
[02:41] <dooby> type echo $PATH and see if your firefox is in one of those dirs
[02:41] <marc_> Ok, I will try it...but back to the other problem ... I cant figure out (mb I didnt know enough about the *ubuntu "right-system"). When I start (from Menu -> Add/Remove Packages) Why are ALL Packages grey (and not slectable) except those who are already installed, and could be removed (ONLY removed)?!
[02:41] <marc_> Path ... mom
[02:42] <marc_> Mhm ... no firefox in PATH .. thx for idea...
[02:43] <ylz> BluesKaj: unfortunately no
[02:43] <BluesKaj> marc_, type 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:44] <marc_> ok
[02:44] <BluesKaj> then,sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:44] <marc_> ..working...
[02:44] <ThePub> is there a reason kmail isn't part o fthe internet submenu on a default kde install?
[02:44] <xwolf-> 'checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!' which package do i have to install to fix this?
[02:46] <llutz> xwolf-: sudo aptitude install xlibs-dev
[02:46] <marc_> oh many informations in german ... ^^ the main part: its not available, but referenced by another packet, the follwoing packets displace it: 'firefox'
[02:48] <marc_> ?_? strange behavior...
[02:48] <francesco> il canale italiano qual'?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> !it
[02:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:50] <dooby> @MArc hmmm
[02:50] <fabio_> hi to all...
[02:50] <dooby> are these messages you are receiving
[02:50] <xwolf-> llutz thank you, it worked :)
 intelikey: what's the deal with Sane btw?     <<< idk.  i installed the prietary driver for the printer and scanner the printer works without a hitch  but the scanner all i can get out of it is   no device found  when i try to open [x] sane
[02:50] <dooby> how does your etc/apt/sources.list look like
[02:50] <marc_> wait wait ...
[02:50] <dooby> ok
[02:50] <dooby> :)
[02:50] <fabio_> someone can help me with a toshiba notebook. i must use toshset for setting brightness
[02:50] <marc_> NOW I am able to select applications to install?!?
[02:51] <fabio_> and other key fn
[02:51] <marc_> Why that? beacuse of the apt update?
[02:52] <marc_> Now I can "click" the firefox symbol in the GUI for apt .. strange... why are there some grey and not selectable ?!
[02:52] <marc_> But its installing firefox ... a good start ;)
[02:52] <dooby> very good
[02:52] <intelikey> !repos | marc_
[02:52] <ubotu> marc_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:53] <dooby> the update comand updates your apt-get database based on the sources.list
[02:53] <BluesKaj> marc_, do you understand about the repositories that the pkg manager like adept use to find and install programs?
[02:54] <xwolf-> lol, now i need kde headers
[02:54] <marc_> "understand" ... mhm ... I understand the "principle" behind ... but not in great detail...
[02:54] <xwolf-> !kde
[02:54] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:54] <dooby> they store software on locations where you can easily retrieve ut
[02:54] <BluesKaj> good, it's a start , marc_
[02:54] <dooby> using apt-get of adept
[02:55] <marc_> Ok, thx all of you .... I think I need to read a bit more. :)?
[02:55] <dooby> is your firefow wroking ?
[02:55] <dooby> forefox
[02:55] <marc_> mhm ... mom
[02:55] <marc_> ^_^
[02:55] <dooby> :)
[02:55] <ehird> going to try QNX or something hardcore, brb livecd
[02:56] <marc_> atm im updating via "adept updating", wouldnt it be a problem to start firefox now?
[02:56] <intelikey> marc_ no
[02:56] <ThePub> hmm, is there a way to put a hiding panel over the macos work-alike menubar across the top?
[02:56] <marc_> Well, but firefox is in the menu now ... wich is a good sign, isnt it? ;)
[02:56] <dooby> it sure is
[02:56] <intelikey> marc_ yes
[02:56] <dooby> hope you get it running
[02:56] <dooby> i got to go
[02:57] <marc_> Oh cool ... its running :)
[02:57] <dooby> enjoy
[02:57] <intelikey> actually that falls under the topic of openion...
[02:57] <marc_> -_-
[02:57] <dooby> :)
[02:57] <dooby> (y)
[02:57] <marc_> Thanks all of you!
[02:57] <dooby> ciao
[02:57] <marc_> by
[02:57] <marc_> +e
[03:01] <baseic> nn som kan hjlpa mig med mp3std?
[03:02] <ThePub> Wouldn't it be cool if you could put a KMail inbox/mail folder on your desktop and open it with a Konq window?
[03:02] <baseic> can anyone help me with mp3 support to kubuntu?
[03:02] <Jucato> !mp3
[03:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:03] <intelikey> ThePub why couldn't you do that ?
[03:03] <ThePub> intelikey: so tell me, how?  I don't see a possible way :)
[03:03] <intelikey> ThePub use maildir in place of mbox
[03:04] <ThePub> intelikey: that wouldn't be routed through kmail.  you'd still have to have kmail open to have the folder managed
[03:04] <pedroca> portugues... como fao?
[03:04] <intelikey> set the folder to ~/Desktop/Mail/
[03:04] <ThePub> intelikey: and it's not a managed mail window, it's just looking at mail
[03:05] <intelikey> yes
[03:05] <pedroca> ei caras... como coloco essa porra em portugues?
[03:05] <intelikey> your point ?
[03:05] <ThePub> intelikey: what you suggest is not what I said.
[03:05] <Jucato> !pt | pedroca
[03:05] <ubotu> pedroca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:05] <pedroca> obrigado...
[03:06] <intelikey> "if you could put a KMail inbox/mail folder on your desktop and open it with a Konq window?"  <--- looks like what you said...
[03:06] <ThePub> intelikey: inferring you'd get all the management of kmail "magically", not jsut look at raw mail files.
[03:06] <ThePub> intelikey: it's not a kmail folder if it's a konq folder, it's just a view of the raw mail files
[03:07] <intelikey> ThePub i think you missed the point of maildir
[03:07] <ThePub> intelikey: I think you miss the point of having a kmail managed folder?  :)  like I said, it's different
[03:08] <eilker> !nfs
[03:08] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:08] <intelikey> ThePub what ever.   if you know so much tell me how to get this scanner working.
[03:09] <ThePub> intelikey: I would if I could.  What's email and scanning have to do with each other?
[03:09] <ThePub> intelikey: the key point was my emote about CyberDog, and if you have used it you'll understand what I mean :)
[03:09] <intelikey> the use the same OS ?
[03:09] <intelikey> on the same box ?
[03:09] <intelikey> :)
[03:10] <ThePub> intelikey: I asked earlier about Sane because I have some limited experience with it.  I used it about 10 years ago to setup some web cams
[03:11] <intelikey> well i wish i knew something about it atm....
[03:12] <ThePub> intelikey: so my experience with the software is very limited.  frontends at the time were very finicky though and it was important to make sure the sane commandline tools could read the source before diving in with it.
[03:14] <MarcC-linux> is there a way to fix the antialiasing of Kubuntu's fonts? It looks pretty bad here even with AA turned on with subpixel hinting.
[03:16] <omar> I need help, I overwrite the first 512kb of the windows boot, and I can join to windows..........
[03:16] <omar> How can I fix it?
[03:16] <ThePub> MarcC-linux: mine look beautiful :(
[03:16] <intelikey> maybe sane-utils will help ???
[03:17] <MarcC-linux> ThePub: ok, maybe I will try different fonts - I believe the Vista fonts are being used now
[03:17] <ThePub> MarcC-linux: oh, yeah, definitely.  I noticed that with some of my Adobe fonts they look like garbage
[03:18] <omar> Someone can help me?
[03:18] <MarcC-linux> It just weirds me out that they look ok in gnome
[03:18] <MarcC-linux> omar, fdisk /mbr ?
[03:18] <ThePub> MarcC-linux: hmm, that is strange.
[03:18] <MarcC-linux> or just fixmbr
[03:19] <omar> MarcC, I new in linux, I dont know what are you trying tu tell me, I used a program called testdisk to rebuild MRB and it did not fix it.
[03:19] <ThePub> intelikey: I was looking for the sane email I used.. I never keep that sort of stuff archived very long :(
[03:20] <ThePub> anyone know the relation of khtml to webkit these days?
[03:21] <intelikey> ThePub well sane-find-scanner finds it ok but xsane doesn't ...
[03:21] <ThePub> intelikey: have you checked the supported devices list?
[03:21] <MarcC-linux> omar, you rebuilt the mbr and it didn't work?
[03:21] <MarcC-linux> those are windows terminal commands to fix the MBR
[03:21] <ThePub> http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
[03:22] <intelikey> ThePub after installing the prietary driver ?
[03:23] <intelikey> isn't that reinventing the wheel ?
[03:23] <omar> yes marc, Can I tell you all the history?
[03:23] <ThePub> intelikey: from the manuf?  suppose if they give you one it should work *shrug* not going to be any help, just double checking the troubleshooting done.
[03:24] <omar> I was trying to pass a file from linux to windows partition and I copy a file from linux to /dev/hda1
[03:24] <ThePub> intelikey: I know from experience that a driver that you'd think would support your hardware, may not support it.
[03:24] <omar> thats overwrite the first 512 of the boot of windows partition
[03:24] <intelikey> ThePub yes from brother.com  it's a .deb
[03:25] <intelikey> and the printer works flawlessly so i will go out on a limb and assume the the scanner driver is ok.
[03:25] <omar> Then I could join to windows, I reinstalled the ubuntu and after that, windows doesn't appear in the grub
[03:25] <ThePub> intelikey: two seperate subsytems :(
[03:25] <wjasd> what is the default passwd for kubuntu
[03:26] <intelikey> yes,  and all in one box.
[03:26] <ThePub> wjasd: whatever you set it to when installed the machine.
[03:26] <intelikey> wjasd there isn't one
[03:26] <intelikey> !root
[03:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:26] <ThePub> wjasd: if you mean "root", then sudo is your friend.
[03:27] <ThePub> intelikey: have you checked out the howto?  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/index.html
[03:27] <ThePub> intelikey: specifically, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/troubleshooting.html#INITIAL-HINTS
[03:27] <intelikey> not that one in particular.  looking.
[03:27] <wjasd> i boot it as a livecd ,it let me input the usrname and passwd
[03:29] <pedroca> como acesso ubuntu br?
[03:30] <ThePub> ok, what am I missing.. I right-click my panel and add another panel.. but I cannot seem to pull up a configuration window for it
[03:30] <wjasd> i boot it as a livecd from harddisk,and then can't log in
[03:31] <Jucato> ThePub: you need to restart kicker. press Alt+F2, type in "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[03:31] <omar__> I need help jaja
[03:31] <ThePub> Jucato: ?
[03:31] <Jucato> ThePub: so that the option to choose which panel to configure (drop down list) will appear
[03:32] <ThePub> Jucato: well, I get the panel, I can add stuff to it.. but I can't configure it's size and stuff
[03:32] <ThePub> oh.. hmm
[03:32] <Jucato> ThePub: read above
[03:32] <Omarpb> who can help a new person in linux that made a mistke?
[03:32] <ThePub> yeah yeah, trying that :)
[03:33] <ThePub> Jucato: thank you :)
[03:35] <ThePub> Jucato: you wouldn't happen to know, would there be a way to force a new panel to be "over" the macos-esque bar?  My goal is to have a hiding bar that will pop over the menubar when the mouse visits the upper right corner.
[03:35] <Blue_Dragon> hi guys, i have got a problem starting the kubuntu 6.10 live cd
[03:35] <Omarpb> I copy a file from linux to /dev/hda1 (windows partition) and I overwrited the firsts 512 of the boot partition, I did not how fix it, I can not join to windows, someone can help me?
[03:36] <danny500> Jucato
[03:36] <danny500> check you gmail
[03:40] <marc_> Oh Im still online ... I got another question.
[03:41] <Omarpb> I copy a file from linux to /dev/hda1 (windows partition) and I overwrited the firsts 512 of the boot partition, I did not how fix it, I can not join to windows, someone can help me?
[03:41] <marc_> Who knows how to change the language of the firefox? I downloaded the german-package (for my mom) but after it ... also my browser appears in german ... which I really dont want. And switching back in the normal dialog doesnt change anything!? :(
[03:41] <ThePub> Omarpb: you copied it as root to /dev/hda1 directly?  O.o
[03:42] <Omarpb> yes
[03:42] <hans> Omarpb: boot from the windows CD and choose to repair the MBR
[03:42] <Omarpb> but this is a laptop, the  cd of windows of the laptop does not have that option
[03:42] <Omarpb> that disc erase all
[03:44] <ThePub> marc_: so you installed the localized german version and want another language?
[03:44] <hans> Omarpb: reinstall windows in that case
[03:45] <Omarpb> but if I reinstall, the system disc erase all, I need save some files that are very important
[03:45] <hans> Omarpb: copy those files to your linux partition
[03:45] <marc_> ThePub: No, at first my firefox was english (the menu and all that stuff) then, I downloaded the german-package ... and now ... its ONLY german
[03:46] <Omarpb> I can see all the files from linux
[03:46] <Omarpb> i Can't
[03:46] <Omarpb> sorry
[03:46] <hans> Omarpb: why not?
[03:47] <Omarpb> I dont know, I can see the partition from the terminal, but I can not access to my windows user
[03:47] <ThePub> marc_: and you tried switching the language back to english?
[03:47] <Omarpb> where are the files that I need
[03:47] <marc_> ThePub: yea... several times ^^
[03:47] <ThePub> marc
[03:48] <ThePub> marc_: oops :(  ff info claims that will switch it back.  was just playing with it though because I've never done that :)
[03:48] <Rythan_> nbn
[03:48] <hans> Omarpb: How are you trying to access them?
[03:49] <Omarpb> from /media/hda1
[03:49] <Omarpb> hans
[03:49] <hans> Omarpb: and you can not read the files?
[03:49] <marc_> ThePub: Sorry?  'ff info claims'
[03:50] <marc_> ThePub: oups ... whats that? Never heard before...
[03:50] <metres> omarpb because you are not the root user...
[03:50] <Omarpb> I can not
[03:50] <Rythan_> lol
[03:50] <Omarpb> even if I the root user
[03:50] <BluesKaj> marc_, open FF , choose edit/preferences/general/advanced/languages/select a language too add...check in the list
[03:50] <ThePub> hmm, yay.. now my panels are unresponsive :(
[03:51] <hans> lol @ ThePub
[03:51] <ThePub> hans: ?
[03:51] <hans> hmm, yay.. now my panels are unresponsive :(
[03:51] <Omarpb> even if I am the root user metres
[03:51] <jose> hola
[03:52] <somdech> hi
[03:52] <ThePub> hans: yes.. I fail to see the humor I suppose.
[03:52] <marc_> BluesKaj: I tried that several times :(
[03:52] <somdech> hi guy i,m jsut come in
[03:52] <metres> Omarpb : weird have you tried sudo konqueror ?
[03:53] <hans> ThePub: I like the "yay" followed by a negative, but then again I do have a weird sence of humor
[03:53] <ThePub> marc_:
[03:53] <BluesKaj> must be a default language choice there , marc_
[03:53] <ThePub> marc_: maybe just reinstall?
[03:53] <Omarpb> I cant see the folder documents and settings from konqueror
[03:54] <marc_> I think its something in the config-files? Because my whole system is in german and I think ff just "switched" back to "local properties" ... but where can I adjust that parameter? ;)
[03:54] <metres> Omarpb : weird I saw it here...
[03:54] <BluesKaj> ThePub, marc_ wants to switch back and forth between german & english
[03:55] <ThePub> BluesKaj: yes, of course, but it shouldn't force german as a default on an english locale setup.
[03:55] <marc_> right!
[03:56] <ThePub> I've never tinkered with languages in FF, but I just removed all my languages and installed japanese.. and it's still in english
[03:56] <hans> marc_: http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/switch-locales/
[03:56] <marc_> lol ...;) but ff switched immediatly to the new language pack ... but not back :(
[03:57] <BluesKaj> marc_, whatever languge is at the top of your languages kist is the default one ...just make sure english is at the top
[03:57] <BluesKaj> list
[03:58] <marc_> It doesnt work BluesKaj, I also removed german from that list. And firefox still appears to think .. "ouh Im a german firefox" ;)
[03:58] <marc_> Ah cool ...
[03:58] <intelikey> still no scanner....   raz-a smacken' fratten' smacken' fratten'  </yosemite-sam>
[03:58] <marc_> hans: thx ... Im going to try that switcher
[03:58] <ThePub> Ja Ja
[03:59] <hans> I have never tried it marc_
[03:59] <BluesKaj> methinks hans is right ...locales may be the way to do it
[03:59] <beergutxl> Hi can anyone help me with amarok and mp3's for some reason it cannot play mp3 files riped using sound juicer
[04:00] <BluesKaj> gotta DL the mp3 plugin for amarok
[04:00] <metres> omarpb : I need registering...
[04:00] <beergutxl> It will play downloaded mp3's just not the ones I ripped using sound juicer
[04:00] <Omarpb> for what metres?
[04:01] <Omarpb> to answer me?
[04:01] <Omarpb> ./msg nickserv pass
[04:01] <BluesKaj> maybe sound juicer is putting copyright protection on the tunes
[04:02] <beergutxl> The files play fine on musikcube on my girlfriends machine
[04:02] <marc_> Lol, here guys my solution: Start FF -> Tools -> Add-ons -> 'deactivate' the languagepack you dont want now -> restart FF ... (-_-) works well here
[04:03] <hans> beergutxl: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28amaroK.29
[04:03] <BluesKaj> cool, marc_, good to know :)
[04:04] <marc_> thx all :)
[04:05] <jhonny> hola
[04:05] <jhonny> alguien online
[04:06] <jhonny> quiero saber como manejar el cambio de escritorio
[04:07] <beergutxl> To be honest I probably need a more audio specific room I seam to have created some weird files that play in rhythmbox and claim to be Mp3's even file thinks so mplayer has this to say :
[04:07] <beergutxl> Playing 01 - Psycho Killer.mp3.
[04:07] <beergutxl> libavformat file format detected.
[04:07] <beergutxl> [mp3 @ 0x874c3c8] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: mp2, 56 kb/s)
[04:07] <beergutxl> LAVF_header: av_find_stream_info() failed
[04:07] <intelikey> !paste
[04:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:08] <aleksanteri> ok
[04:08] <aleksanteri> i would need some help on kubuntu
[04:08] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri:
[04:08] <aleksanteri> i am trying to boot from an ubuntu cd but it boots my windows xp instead
[04:09] <aleksanteri> kubuntu*
[04:09] <marc_> aleksanteri: Are your sure that you have switched on the right "boot medium" search in your Bios?!
[04:09] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35928/plain/  sane is insane
[04:09] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: did you change your BIOS settings to boot from
[04:09] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: CD-ROM / RW drive first?
[04:10] <aleksanteri> yeah
[04:11] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: which CD-ROM/RW drive and motherboard do you have (version / brand / model number?)
[04:11] <aleksanteri> lol how would i know?
[04:11] <CVirus> !dosbox
[04:11] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (edgy), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[04:11] <aleksanteri> ok :P
[04:11] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: didn't you note while purchasing? or is it a branded computer from (HP / Compaq, Dell?)
[04:11] <marc_> aleksanteri: Have you tried the CD on another Computer? Maybe its not bootable at all? (Wrong image burn/checksum something else)?!
[04:11] <hans> aleksanteri: You need to burn the CD as an immage
[04:12] <aleksanteri> oh
[04:12] <aleksanteri> i will try :P bbl
[04:12] <marc_> :)
[04:12] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: yes, that's one more option
[04:12] <BluesKaj> not everbody at once
[04:12] <aleksanteri> because i just downloaded the *.iso file, burned it and booted it
[04:12] <aleksanteri> bbl
[04:13] <BluesKaj> hhmm, it should have booted if his cdrom is #1 in the BIOS boot sequence
[04:14] <hans> BluesKaj: not if the CD itself was not burned properly
[04:14] <BluesKaj> ppl forget to save their changes upon exit in BIOS
[04:15] <hans> yeah we do
[04:15] <furiano> ciao
[04:17] <piotrus> witam jest ktos?
[04:17] <aleksanteri> back
[04:17] <BluesKaj> sometimes  ppl do forget , not always
[04:17] <aleksanteri> it can't boot from that cd either
[04:17] <intelikey> why does kcontrol > peripheals   not have scanners in it ?
[04:17] <aleksanteri> and i also read a bit of the log
[04:17] <aleksanteri> it IS the CD
[04:17] <hans> aleksanteri: Can you boot from a windoze CD?
[04:18] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: was that a CD-R?
[04:18] <aleksanteri> yeah it was
[04:18] <BluesKaj> aleksanteri, are you sure the BIOS is set for cdrom boot first . ?
[04:18] <aleksanteri> sadly :(
[04:18] <aleksanteri> BluesKaj: yeah i'm sure
[04:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[04:18] <marc_> be happy thats that was the prob :)
[04:18] <BluesKaj> bummer about the bad burn
[04:19] <aleksanteri> :D but now the thing is that is it either my burning device or the cd itself?
[04:19] <aleksanteri> itself. *
[04:19] <wilman> i have a problem with audacity
[04:19] <marc_> Another question: Does anyone of you know, if I install any program, does the debian package work everytime on *kubuntu?
[04:19] <hans> aleksanteri: How did you burn the CD?
[04:19] <aleksanteri> i used the window's builtin burner
[04:19] <aleksanteri> it has worked before
[04:19] <wilman> i have a problem with audacity
[04:20] <wilman> with the sound
[04:20] <mc__> marc_: debian packages are not guaranteed to work on ubuntu
[04:20] <wilman> it says no I/O device
[04:20] <hans> aleksanteri: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/e-smith/docs/howto/CD_burning_howto.html
[04:20] <marc_> ah thx
[04:20] <mc__> marc_: in fact it's quite likely that they break
[04:20] <aleksanteri> thx
[04:20] <marc_> mc__: should I try ... it or download "normal" sources and try to compile them? Whats the best solution?
[04:21] <mc__> marc_: what package do you need?
[04:21] <marc_> I want that game: http://www.reto-schoelly.de/mahjongg3d/index.html
[04:22] <mc__> marc_: alright,firtst try try the debian package
[04:23] <hans> wilman: what version of ubuntu?
[04:23] <marc_> mc__: thx .. Ill try it
[04:23] <wilman> 6.19
[04:23] <BluesKaj> intelikey, strange as it may seem try system settings/user management/admin mode/secondary groups/enable/apply  ..this might pickup your scanner on the next reboot ...just a thought :)
[04:23] <wilman> 6.10
[04:24] <wilman> it did work before on my computer but that was my previous install
[04:24] <intelikey> BluesKaj ???
[04:24] <hans> wilman: did you reinstall or upgrade?
[04:25] <intelikey> BluesKaj i'm trying as root....
[04:25] <wilman> it says : there was an error intializing the audio 1/o layer you will not be able to play or record audio
[04:25] <wilman> reinstall
[04:26] <hans> wilman: could be that there is a problem with switchin from/to oss or alsa
[04:27] <wilman> hmm i don't really know
[04:27] <wilman> is that easy to solve?
[04:27] <hans> wilman: I would have a play with those if I where you
[04:27] <wilman> ok
[04:27] <hans> I don't use amarok, or audacity
[04:27] <hans> I have mplayer ;)
[04:28] <wilman> i want to record
[04:28] <wilman> not play
[04:28] <hans> ok
[04:29] <BluesKaj> is anyone here running Google Earth successfully with an ATI onboard graphics fglrx driver ?
[04:29] <ThePub> BluesKaj: what do you mean by onboard?  I'm using google earth with 8.31 fglrx on my 9700 card
[04:30] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj, try the sabayon livedvd it's got google earth on it
[04:31] <TheGateKeeper> I think it will install the ati drivers by default
[04:33] <hans> wilman: cat /dev/sndstat
[04:33] <wilman> hmm
[04:33] <wilman> ok
[04:34] <wilman> the stat is good
[04:34] <wilman> no synthesiser anable
[04:34] <wilman> i can't copy
[04:35] <hans> wilman: dd bs=8k count=4 </dev/audio >sample.au
[04:36] <trappist> BluesKaj: not at the moment, but I have before
[04:38] <Schuenemann> how can I make the windows key open the K menu?
[04:38] <wilman> 4*0 records out
[04:38] <Schuenemann> using dapper
[04:38] <wilman> 4*0 records in
[04:38] <wilman> 33 kb copied
[04:38] <hans> wilman: cat sample.au >/dev/audio
[04:40] <wilman> device or recource busy
[04:40] <BluesKaj> ThePub, TheGateKeeper, trappist, .. I'm using an ATI onboard express200 and the google earth GUI flickers every second or so as if it's refreshing ,very distracting
[04:41] <hans> wilman: hmm
[04:41] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj, well try the live dvd see if there is any difference
[04:41] <hans> wilman: I give up
[04:42] <wilman> perhaps you can help me with something else
[04:42] <wilman> cause it is a little dificult working with a broken console
[04:43] <hans> I will try
[04:43] <wilman> when i start konsole
[04:43] <hans> I am just a newbie though
[04:43] <wilman> it makes an error
[04:43] <wilman> in kde
[04:44] <hans> what is the error message?
[04:44] <wilman> signal 4
[04:44] <wilman> siggil
[04:44] <wilman> sigill
[04:44] <hans> sigkill?
[04:44] <wilman> no
[04:44] <wilman> sigill
[04:44] <hans> signal?
[04:45] <wilman> the application Konsole crashed and caused the signal 4 (SIGILL)
[04:45] <hans> ok
[04:45] <llutz> wilman: means "illegal instruction" (man signal) but no idea why
[04:45] <ThePub> BluesKaj: how about other opengl apps?  thought I read somewhere that the express support is fairly new, maybe it's a known issue?  google earth on the 9700 is working like a top though, as good as it did in windows.
[04:45] <wilman> hmm
[04:45] <wilman> i can bactrace
[04:46] <makis> ok
[04:47] <Schuenemann> how can I make the windows key open the K menu? using dapper
[04:47] <BluesKaj> ThePub, it's aknown issue in edgy ...google earth worked ok in dapper on this pc ..dunno what they changed but it made things worse fo GE
[04:48] <ThePub> BluesKaj: sucks that ATI treats us linux users like second-class citizens :(
[04:48] <wilman> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[04:48] <wilman> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] 
[04:48] <wilman> [New Thread -1232123584 (LWP 6102)] 
[04:49] <wilman> [KCrash handler] 
[04:49] <wilman> #6  0xb6754a8b in TEWidget::fontChange () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_konsole.so
[04:49] <wilman> #7  0x00000042 in ?? ()
[04:49] <wilman> something with font
[04:49] <Red_Tear> !suse
[04:49] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[04:49] <BluesKaj> ThePub, it just comes with the terrirory ...now thet ATI is owned by AMD maybe we'll see a bit more support ... one can only hope
[04:50] <wilman> haha Ati is owned :P
[04:50] <ThePub> BluesKaj: lol, it definitely can't be any worse :)
[04:50] <ThePub> BluesKaj: Personally, next machine I build will have an nVidia card since I have an on-off relationship with linux, going back to Windows for MMOs mostly.
[04:50] <BluesKaj> wilman, ATI was bought out by AMD
[04:51] <wilman> i know :P
[04:51] <wilman> is there an alternative for konsole?
[04:52] <ThePub> xterm?
[04:52] <BluesKaj> yeah , I bought this box cuz it was a good deal, 600canuckbucks ,for Compaq Presario SR1734X
[04:52] <ThePub> gnome-console? :)
[04:52] <hans> wilman: [Ctrl] [Alt] [F1] 
[04:52] <ThePub> rxvt
[04:52] <wilman> yea but you cant copy from there
[04:52] <hans> wilman: [Ctrl] [Alt] [F7]  to get back
[04:53] <BluesKaj> ThePub, NVidia cards aren't out of the woods yet with Ubuntu set ups either
[04:53] <hans> wilman: have you been playing with fonts?
[04:54] <wilman> uu i have installed some
[04:54] <ThePub> BluesKaj: for normal display they work as good as an ATI card, but the main thing is nVidia seems to have more interest in actually doing some basic linux support.
[04:54] <wilman> becuase i had to have one but i didnt know wicht
[04:54] <wilman> but i never chanched settings
[04:54] <ThePub> BluesKaj: Although, for non-accelerated graphics on ATI the open-source drivers are really good.
[04:54] <hans> wilman: you can change the fonts from the kde settings
[04:54] <wilman> hehe but the easiest solution works
[04:55] <wilman> i reinstalled the programm
[04:55] <hans> haha
[04:55] <Schuenemann> anyone know how can I make the windows key open the K menu? using dapper
[04:55] <BluesKaj> yeah ThePub, I'm not a gamer ... i like eye candy alright tho
[04:56] <hans> Schuenemann: have a look at edditing /etc/console-tools/remap
[04:57] <ThePub> Schuenemann: kconsole -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts -> panel -> popup launch menu
[04:57] <ThePub> ?
[04:58] <hildolfur> Hi all! I've got a problem with the twisted package from kubuntu, people at #python think it's a distribution related problem and pointed me here.
[04:58] <Schuenemann> let me see
[04:58] <ThePub> it's mapped to alt-f1 by default I think
[04:59] <hildolfur> hmm, maybe #ubuntu is better to ask
[04:59] <Schuenemann> ouch, it was so bad translated...
[04:59] <intelikey> one would have to make win NOT a modifier key before one could use it as a stand alone shortcut key
[04:59] <Schuenemann> ThePub: can't I set it just to the windows key?
[05:00] <ThePub> well, sounds like a personal problem then
[05:00] <Schuenemann> intelikey: how to make it not a modifier key?
[05:00] <intelikey> Schuenemann idk.
[05:00] <ThePub> get yourself a decent IBM Model-M 101 key keyboard and there's no need to worry about it!  ^^
[05:01] <Schuenemann> I don't use a US keyboard
[05:01] <Schuenemann> it has to be Win + something
[05:01] <intelikey> ThePub i like using the windows keys to switch consoles
[05:01] <intelikey> beets alt+f#
[05:02] <intelikey> Schuenemann there is a way to define what the modifier keys are but don't ask me how.
[05:02] <ThePub> your x keymap is going to have to do with out x sees the keyboard
[05:02] <intelikey> Schuenemann snoop around in kcontrol you might find it
[05:03] <ThePub> hans: suggest /etc/console-tools/remap
[05:03] <ThePub> oops.. hans suggested that ;)
[05:03] <ThePub> hans: will that affect an X session?
[05:03] <intelikey> ThePub yes but without remapping the keys you can set what kde uses for modifier keys.
[05:04] <intelikey> and "<hans> Schuenemann: have a look at edditing /etc/console-tools/remap"  i don't think that will affect X.
[05:05] <ThePub> hey, here we go
[05:05] <ThePub> http://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/SuSE_notes/node73.html
[05:06] <ThePub> Schuenemann: http://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/SuSE_notes/node72.html then --> http://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/SuSE_notes/node73.html
[05:06] <Schuenemann> that file has only a commented line
[05:07] <ThePub> Schuenemann: google "kde windows key"  ^_^
[05:08] <Schuenemann> I did... all I found was people asking that without receiving an answer
[05:08] <hans> try setting the menu in "system settings/Computer administration/keyboard and mouse"
[05:09] <ThePub> Schuenemann: maybe read further?  I just gave you two links from the first page of that search that can be adapted directly :)
[05:09] <weswh-> how do i unmount a partition that i mounted?
[05:09] <llutz> weswh-: umount /mount/point
[05:09] <Schuenemann> ThePub: but japanese?
[05:10] <hans> The "key" you are looking for is "Popup Launch Menu"
[05:10] <weswh-> sudo unmount /media/drive?
[05:10] <ThePub> weswh-: sudo umount /path/to/location
[05:10] <weswh-> cool
[05:10] <ThePub> Schuenemann: no one said it's perfect, but as I said.. it can be adapted.
[05:10] <weswh-> thepub - do you think the power management features are there if i wanted to unmount a drive, and then power it off?
[05:10] <Schuenemann> hans: but it does not accept the win key stand alone
[05:10] <ThePub> weswh-: hell if I know :)
[05:10] <Schuenemann> ok, I'll read it
[05:11] <ThePub> Schuenemann: there's nothing wrong with educating yourself on a subject.  Sometimes that requires more than just looking at something, picking out one word, and deciding that's not for you.
[05:12] <Schuenemann> ok, ok
[05:13] <BluesKaj> !ATI Drivers
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ATI Drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <BluesKaj> !ATI
[05:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <hans> Schuenemann: Yeah same here
[05:26] <ninnghizidha> Hello! I am using ubuntu, but installed kubuntu then. I like it, but i wish i could use the original Ubuntu-USplash-Screen .... got some hints for me how to change this back?
[05:28] <BluesKaj> ninnghizidha, use the system settings/spalsh screen options
[05:29] <trappist> ninnghizidha: or, sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[05:29] <ninnghizidha> i am not talking about the KDM splash screen ... i am talking about the splash, that hides the bootup-text
[05:29] <ninnghizidha> ah! :))
[05:29] <ninnghizidha> this sounds good!
[05:29] <ninnghizidha> willt ry it ... just a moment!
[05:30] <Schuenemann> ThePub, hans: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2552768
[05:30] <Schuenemann> very simple :)
[05:31] <hans> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_alternate_boot_splash_screen
[05:31] <ninnghizidha> ha! thanks! this looks great! :))
[05:31] <trappist> ninnghizidha: :)
[05:37] <hans> Schuenemann: that worked nicely
[05:38] <hans> Schuenemann: thanx
[05:38] <Schuenemann> here too =] 
[05:47] <GK_Hakansson> hi i need the lines that allow me too use php in apache
[05:48] <chopin|pc> !last.fm
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about last.fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <chopin|pc> anyone using last.fm on their machines?
[05:48] <hans> chopin|pc: never heard of it
[05:49] <chopin|pc> ah.  :-|
[05:49] <bthibault> for whatever reason I have to versions of flash installed when I do "about:plugins" in FF
[05:50] <bthibault> anybody know how to select one or the other
[05:51] <hans> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:51] <hans> sudo update-flashplugin
[05:51] <marc__> Has anybody an idea why the login-screen doesnt show me the list of users (in my case 2) although I modified the properties in the users dialog?
[05:51] <digitalfreedom> they may set to hidden
[05:51] <digitalfreedom> or invisble
[05:52] <digitalfreedom> oh ok you edited it
[05:52] <Jucato> marc__: the KDM theme overrides the settings in the Login Manager
[05:52] <digitalfreedom> sorry
[05:52] <marc__> ahh, how can I override, the overrides of KDM? ;)
[05:52] <digitalfreedom> any one know the kubuntu version of tracert from konsole?
[05:52] <zero-code> hi i'm new to this can any one help
[05:53] <digitalfreedom> well zero whats the malfunction
[05:53] <Jucato> marc__: you either: 1) look for a KDM theme that has a user list, or 2) turn off the KDM theme (say bye bye to fancy menus/effects)
[05:53] <bthibault> hans: update-flashplugin ?
[05:53] <bthibault> hans: not sure there is a command for that
[05:53] <digitalfreedom> its apt-get bth
[05:53] <hans> worked for me
[05:53] <zero-code> amarok is not working well
[05:53] <marc__> Jucato: mhm .. no other possibilities? I "need" the effects its an OS for my mum!
[05:54] <digitalfreedom> whats wrong with amarok?
[05:54] <zero-code> and aMule is always going off
[05:54] <Jucato> marc__: only the login effects will be gone (like the fancy icons and stuff)
[05:54] <zero-code> it plays music for sometime and just stop
[05:54] <UncleDrug> digitalfreedom:  sudo apt-get install traceroute
[05:54] <digitalfreedom> thanx UD
[05:55] <zero-code> great
[05:55] <digitalfreedom> bamo its worked
[05:55] <zero-code> thanks
[05:55] <marc__> Jucato: What EXACTLY is the KDM? ..I thought it is the whole KDE system? But this seems not the case?
[05:56] <Jucato> KDM = KDE Display Manager. basically it handles your KDE sessions, specially the login screen
[05:56] <Jucato> it's part of KDE, that is, KDE uses KDM (just as GNOME uses GDM)
[05:56] <digitalfreedom> i should have thought to install it...i had to install finger and whois already
[05:57] <Jucato> marc__: so turning off the KDM theme doesn't affect your desktop in any way. just the login screen
[05:57] <marc__> Ah .. cool
[05:57] <marc__> And how can I switch it?
[05:57] <zero-code> yeh also can you help me setup and make our user group on compus work well(winneba university ghana)
[05:58] <ninnghizidha> It seems that kopete cant send Umlauts .... someone got that problem too?
[05:58] <digitalfreedom> whats Umlauts?
[05:58] <ninnghizidha>  and these things
[05:59] <digitalfreedom> oh special chars
[05:59] <ninnghizidha> i need those in my tongue :P
[05:59] <tazzen> i am new
[05:59] <tazzen> is this a multi chat ?
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> i can do the tongue
[06:00] <marc__> Just ask your question tazzen
[06:00] <tazzen> thanks
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> hahah @ marc
[06:00] <ninnghizidha> its from icq to icq.
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> oh well i dont use icq
[06:00] <marc__> If anybody know the answer ... she/he will answer you
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> havent in years
[06:00] <tazzen> annyboddy know a MSN kopi in here ?
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> we wil ltry our best T
[06:00] <tazzen> what can I use ?
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> ehhh i think maybe aMSN
[06:01] <digitalfreedom> or use kopete
[06:01] <marc__> Does anybody know how to switch my KDM and which other can I use?
[06:01] <tazzen> thank u
[06:01] <tazzen> i will try that
[06:01] <digitalfreedom> np T
[06:01] <llutz> marc__: gdm, xdm
[06:02] <marc__> does gdm ... also work with KDE?
[06:02] <llutz> sure
[06:02] <tazzen> c u later an thanks
[06:02] <ninnghizidha> it does.
[06:02] <marc__> hm ... so simply apt'en and start?
[06:03] <marc__> Or where do I need to adjhust which kdm/gdm I want to use?
[06:03] <ninnghizidha> just apt-get it, it will ask you what to use afterwards
[06:04] <marc__> ah thx
[06:04] <marc__> ok ill try it
[06:04] <digitalfreedom> apt-get rules
[06:04] <ninnghizidha> if not, just type  dpkg-reconfigure gdm.
[06:04] <ninnghizidha> it does, yes.
[06:04] <digitalfreedom> when i had mandriva i bout went crazy hunting for stuff
[06:04] <digitalfreedom> no i just apt-get everything
[06:04] <Jucato> marc__: it's possible. but I think there are some disadvantages in using GDM with KDE
[06:05] <digitalfreedom> or open synaptic
[06:05] <marc__> jucato: why?
[06:05] <marc__> whoups??
[06:05] <marc__> whats that?
[06:05] <Jucato> marc__: because GDM isn't built to work (flawlessly) with KDE. I think that using GDM doesn't allow you to end or switch sessions. iirc
[06:05] <digitalfreedom> whats what?
[06:05] <Jucato> his ghost
[06:06] <marc__> Oh I had a ghost ...
[06:06] <marc__> Ok, back to topic, I do understand you right, that no one, who uses KDM has a List of useres with avatars? :(
[06:07] <Jucato> marc__: um.. no. you got it wrong....
[06:07] <Jucato> marc__: KDM, by default, has a login screen/box with a list of users with their avatars (if they have one)
[06:08] <digitalfreedom> swbell ?!?!?!
[06:08] <Jucato> marc__: however, KDM *themes* sort of hide that login box, and displays their own box
[06:09] <digitalfreedom> anyway did anyone get the ruby update other than me?
[06:09] <trappist> I did
[06:09] <digitalfreedom> did you do it? im skeptical of it
[06:09] <Jucato> yes I did
[06:10] <digitalfreedom> no problems?
[06:10] <trappist> digitalfreedom: it's a security update for the CGI module
[06:10] <trappist> digitalfreedom: no problems here (and I use ruby all day)
[06:10] <digitalfreedom> see i dont know this stuff so i mean im skeered to do it
[06:10] <marc__> sry, was afk...tel
[06:10] <digitalfreedom> what is this ruby?
[06:11] <trappist> digitalfreedom: programming language
[06:11] <marc__> ahh..that means only that I have to switch the theme ... nothing else? :)
[06:11] <digitalfreedom> ok well then im lost as far as programming
[06:11] <digitalfreedom> i stink at it
[06:11] <Schuenemann> trappist: you're using rails
[06:12] <Schuenemann> that was a question
[06:12] <trappist> Schuenemann: sometimes, yeah
[06:12] <digitalfreedom> is there a way to edit konsole commands? i mean say to make ls -a mean rm -r?
[06:12] <trappist> darkangel: 'alias'
[06:13] <Jucato> marc__: like I said, you can either switch to a KDM theme that has that list feature, or turn of the KDM theme
[06:13] <marc__> Jucato: Ok, now I got the point ... thx ... I m looking for another also "eye-friendly" scheme ;)
[06:13] <Jucato> marc__: kde-look.org and good-luck
[06:14] <mc__> marc__: did the 3d mahjong work?
[06:15] <marc__> mc_: no ... the debian package wasnt found (404) and the sources got some error while extracting them...
[06:16] <marc__> mc__: I didnt tried to figured it out again .. because I havnt that much time, so i just emerged Kcolorlines an Kmahjnong ;)
[06:16] <hans> emerge on kubuntu?
[06:17] <marc__> lol .. sry :)
[06:17] <marc__> Where I study Im using gentoo ... and here at home I first installed (today) ubuntu ..
[06:18] <hans> ok
[06:18] <hans> I tried gentoo last week, gave up after three days unsuccesful updating
[06:19] <marc__> ouhh ... ?
[06:19] <hans> tried installing from the live CD :(
[06:19] <hans> I am too much of a newbie I guess
[06:20] <marc__> Mysterious? Well I changed my theme ... and now I try to get a user-list at the login  .. c u soon ;)
[06:20] <Jucato> err...
[06:21] <benner_> Hi everybody, i am still trying to fix my video problem. after installing flgrx for my asus radeon x1600, i rebooted and i get this jumbo font problem..video accelleration and resolution seems to good but cant do nothing at this size :)  screenshots: http://66.130.215.56:81/1.jpg  http://66.130.215.56:81/2.jpg  http://66.130.215.56:81/3.jpg
[06:22] <Dr_willis> 'jumbo font' as in - its using a very low resolution?
[06:22] <silvania> whats up with everytime i update kubuntu something breaks on my system? now OpenGL is randomly lagging or so
[06:22] <benner_> no it is in 1024x768@75hz
[06:23] <marc_> re ...
[06:23] <marc_> :(
[06:24] <silvania> could it be a problem after i updated X server?
[06:24] <marc_> What exactly is a/the scheme .. *shameonme*
[06:25] <marc_> And where can i switch it? Thought it was the window decoration and so on?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> benner_,  that is a large font. :) even my wife could see those letters
[06:25] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[06:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:25] <Dr_willis> benner_,  may want to reconfigure your X. Never seen your exact problem befor.,
[06:25] <Dr_willis> benner_,  since its affecting KDM as well.. thats really odd.
[06:26] <hans> xwindows does not need root does it?
[06:26] <llutz> hans:  -s :)
[06:27] <benner_> Dr_willis: yes it is!! ;) .. i tried ,to reconfigure xorg already.. still same thing.. what's weird is if i reboot in recovery mode and startx manually, its work fine an flgrx is active and working fine
[06:28] <benner_> ubotu: is that answer is for me?
[06:29] <rexbron> hello, is there a place where I can find out why a package is in multiverse?
[06:30] <GK_Hakansson> is here any body who got the "php lines" to put in the apache config file?
[06:30] <Jucato> rexbron:
[06:30] <Jucato> rexbron: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[06:30] <Dr_willis> benner_,  could just not use kdm, and boot to the console and use startx. :)
[06:30] <Jucato> rexbron: usually it's because the package depends on something in multiverse (non-free license)
[06:30] <Dr_willis> benner_,  or kill off KDM, and try startx - see if the same issue happens
[06:31] <hans> rexbron: good question, I always wondered why there are different repositories as well
[06:32] <aib> how do I list information about installed packages from the command-line ?
[06:32] <Jucato> aib: apt-cache show <package>
[06:32] <benner_> Dr_willis: can you explain how? i am new to kubuntu but not so  goofy :)
[06:32] <mc__> aib: apt-cache show packagename
[06:32] <rexbron> it is more of I need to find a reason that it is in multiverse for a spicific package
[06:32] <aib> thanks
[06:33] <Dr_willis> benner_,  go to the console, and       sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:33] <syntaxx> can i use ubuntu repositories even im using kubuntu?
[06:33] <hans> syntaxx: yes
[06:33] <Dr_willis> benner_,  then try 'startx'  - if that starts up X normally... well.. that impies that somthing kDM is doing is goofy
[06:34] <syntaxx> hans: ok thanks.. how can i change my splash to kubuntu? i migrated from ubuntu to kubuntu-dsktop
[06:35] <benner_> when i type that, says: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not  found)
[06:35] <GK_Hakansson> is here any body who got the "php lines" to put in the apache config file?
[06:35] <hans> syntaxx: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_alternate_boot_splash_screen
[06:35] <syntaxx> thanks
[06:38] <syntaxx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades <-- to upgrade to edgy?
[06:38] <benner_> Dr_willis: when i type that, says: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not  found)
[06:38] <Dr_willis> benner_,  go to the console, and       sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:39] <Dr_willis> benner_,  heh -  or perhaps xdm stop
[06:40] <benner_> Dr_willis: both command not found
[06:40] <Dr_willis> benner_,  what EXACTLY are you typing
[06:40] <benner_> Dr_willis: oups wait i did that in a console from x
[06:41] <Dr_willis> console = the alt-ctrl-f1 Console.. not "Konsole" the terminal program. :)
[06:41] <benner_> yes exact.. let me try
[06:41] <Dr_willis> if you booted to rescue mode then KDM/GDM isent running. :)
[06:41] <King_Brad> the Kernel Source for kubuntu 6.06 is  linux-source(uname -r) correct?
[06:42] <syntaxx> how can i upgrade kubuntu dappet to edgy? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades is this the site to do that?
[06:42] <benner_> exact i am in recovery mode using startx command.. because i cant do nothing in the default boot methot due to the font problem
[06:42] <heinkel_111> why are there so many updates today?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> benner_,  then this testing will prove nothing.. :)
[06:43] <Dr_willis> benner_,  ya could START kdm and see if the problemn happens now
[06:43] <Dr_willis> benner_,  go to the console, and       sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[06:43] <Dr_willis> but since ya got X going allready... that wont help much
[06:43] <King_Brad> ok i have linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 in /usr/src/ , do i need to extract that so i can compile my audio drivers?
[06:44] <hans> syntaxx: just change all occurences in /etc/apt/sources.list from "dapper" to "edgy", do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <benner_> yes exactly on!!! the x loaded and i have those jumbo font
[06:44] <benner_> seems to be kdm
[06:44] <Dr_willis> benner_,  very freaky.. you can disable KDM from starting at a normal boot time by removing the file         /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm
[06:44] <Dr_willis> then ya can just login and use 'startx'
[06:45] <Dr_willis> No idea what KDM could be doing to mess with that. could be some odd fglrx/kde bugglet
[06:45] <benner_> maybe everybody told me they never seen that
[06:45] <llutz> maybe wrong dpi-settings
[06:45] <hans> only two updates today
[06:45] <hans> 6 or so yesterday
[06:47] <hans> taday it;s only ruby, there was a "denial of service" bug found in ruby
[06:47] <benner_> llutz: i tried something the other day about that.. dont remember this command
[06:47] <King_Brad> whats the command to rename a folder from konsole?
[06:47] <llutz> benner_: you can change /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc to set dpi for kdm
[06:47] <mc__> King_Brad:  mv
[06:47] <benner_> Dr_willis: if i remove that file, can i add the startx command to be autorun ( like as autoexec.bat) :)
[06:48] <King_Brad> ty
[06:48] <King_Brad> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution <--- how do i do this????
[06:48] <Dr_willis> benner_,  dont bother - just use startx.  :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> mv foo bar
[06:49] <llutz> King_Brad: what driver do you need to compile?
[06:49] <King_Brad> my audio drivers llutz
[06:49] <llutz> King_Brad: usually its ok just to install linux-headers and build-essential
[06:50] <King_Brad> i installed linux-source
[06:50] <King_Brad> for my kernel....
[06:50] <King_Brad> but it doesnt like that... maybe linux-headers are needed?
[06:50] <llutz> King_Brad: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:51] <King_Brad> so apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:51] <King_Brad> will do the trick?
[06:51] <llutz> King_Brad: it should
[06:51] <King_Brad> k
[06:51] <King_Brad> thanks
[06:51] <yannick>  Hi, i search french canal for Kubuntu
[06:51] <llutz> !fr
[06:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:51] <yannick> tks
[06:53] <benner_> llutz: what im i suposed to check in the kdmrc file? this is very long
[06:54] <llutz> benner_: mom, have to check
[06:54] <King_Brad> awsome that worked!!! thanks llutz
[06:54] <llutz> King_Brad:  ur welcoome
[06:57] <llutz> benner_: line example sets dpi to 117 (my notebook): ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 117
[06:59] <ovejanegra> hello everybody
[07:00] <ovejanegra> can anyone help me to configure Screen Properties on a dell 640m ?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[07:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:01] <Dr_willis> ovejanegra,  what properties you refering to anyway?
[07:01] <llutz> Dr_willis: you'll need lots of time, it's f*ing slow :(
[07:02] <benner_> llutz: i dont have nothing with dpi in this file.. and i tried to paste yours in mine and do nothing
[07:02] <ovejanegra> thanks... I'm trying to set the screen resolution to 1280x800, but i can't
[07:03] <ovejanegra> i'm new to kubuntu, so any help will be great...
[07:03] <eric_> it may not have autodetected your monitor so its using generic settings.
[07:04] <eric_> if you go to system settings then monitor and display
[07:04] <eric_> find out what kind of card and monitor your running at set it up there.  also when your done you have to restart the x server.
[07:05] <ovejanegra> i'm using a laptop... already tried to change resolution from system settings, but the option for 1280x800 is not there. Max is 1024x720
[07:06] <eric_> that may be as high as you can go then, it will give you different resolution choices depending on what type of display and driver you have.
[07:06] <hyper_ch> how can I see how many users are logged into a computer?
[07:06] <hyper_ch> or rather who those users are?
[07:06] <llutz> hyper_ch: who
[07:07] <Dr_willis> ovejanegra,  what video card is in that laptop?
[07:07] <hyper_ch> llutz: what does this mean:
[07:07] <hyper_ch> hyper    :0           2006-12-03 16:41
[07:07] <hyper_ch> hyper    pts/0        2006-12-08 17:49 (:0.0)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> llutz,  the users thats who... :)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> hyper_ch,  try 'man who'
[07:07] <vge> someone can explain me why i need to reboot to make my eth0 to work?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> vge,  who told you that.
[07:08] <llutz> Dr_willis: hmpf, usually i'm called the "man-man" bcus forcing world to read those :)
[07:08] <vge> Dr_willis: well, i dont seem to get any other way working
[07:09] <vge> network restart nor ifup/ifdown dont do the trick, is the others?
[07:09] <hyper_ch> Dr_willis: man who doesn't give any info on what the output means
[07:09] <llutz> info who
[07:10] <Dr_willis> vge,  so what yo mean to say is 'who do I have to reboot to get my eth0 working' ?  we cant really tell much - with such little information.
[07:10] <hyper_ch> llutz: info who returns the same as man who.... a list with options...
[07:10] <Dr_willis> oops 'why do i ...'
[07:10] <ovejanegra> it says i810... it's a Intel 945gm integrated
[07:10] <eric_> does that match what the computer actually has.  my monitor and driver had to be setup manually because it didn't autodetect the right settings.
[07:10] <benner_> Dr_willis: i deleted the /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm and kubuntu freeze in the kubuntu blue bootscreen
[07:11] <Dr_willis> benner_,  strartx now freezes?
[07:11] <paulw> hyper_ch: try 'man w'
[07:11] <llutz> ovejanegra: sudo aptitude install 915resolution && sudo 915resolution -l
[07:12] <ovejanegra> ok, i'll try that now
[07:12] <llutz> ovejanegra: does it show you a 1280x800 mode?
[07:12] <benner_> Dr_willis: i deleted the file and rebooted, i got the blue bootscreen with the progress bar, and freeze there.. i can even type startx
[07:12] <llutz> ovejanegra: many intel-graphic bios are buggy
[07:13] <ovejanegra> sudo: 915resolution: command not found
[07:13] <llutz> ovejanegra: read what i typed
[07:13] <lm> hey there. can anybody give me their perspective on, what filesystem i shoould convert my 300 gb usb hdd to, so that i can easily read it from both linux and windows?
[07:13] <lm> *should
[07:13] <ovejanegra> sorry, I'm a newbie...
[07:13] <llutz> l,ext3
[07:13] <trappist> lm: vfat
[07:13] <llutz> lm ext3
[07:13] <lm> llutz: is that on readable from windows?
[07:14] <llutz> lm there is a driver on fs-driver.org
[07:14] <lm> trappist:  what is that? never heard of it
[07:14] <Dr_willis> lm,  with the IFS stuff - windows xp can read/write to ext2/3 partitions
[07:14] <llutz> lm vfat=fat32
[07:14] <Dr_willis> thats what llutz  is refering to.. it works very well for me.
[07:14] <trappist> lm: it's fat32.  linux refers to it as vfat.  it's the filesystem they usually ship with
[07:14] <llutz> for me too
[07:14] <Schuenemann> you write ext2/3 from windows?
[07:14] <Schuenemann> is it safe?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  i imagine its safer then ntfs wriging under linux. :)
[07:15] <Dr_willis> theres some limitations to it.. but for a 'data' drive it works decently well for me.
[07:15] <lm> ok... which of the has the best and safest converting tecknique?
[07:15] <Schuenemann> that doesn't mean it's safe heheh
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Life is not safe
[07:15] <eric_> can anybody suggest a good php or perl file manager?
[07:15] <llutz> lm: converting with existing data on? none
[07:15] <Schuenemann> writing fat from linux is safe
[07:15] <ovejanegra> i can't get "sudo 915resolution -l" to work... thows an error message
[07:15] <lm> llutz: thats a shame
[07:16] <ThePub> writing the skinny isn't though!  :)
[07:16] <lm> llutz: not even fat32?
[07:16] <Schuenemann> if you have a power down while converting... wasted
[07:16] <llutz> lm: now it's ntfs? don't know if converting to fat32 works
[07:17] <lm> hmm so i guess the only good altenative now is ext3, huh?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> lm,  depends on exactly what you want to do.
[07:18] <ovejanegra> ok, i got it now:  Mode 5c : 1280x800, 32 bits/pixel
[07:18] <ThePub> ntfs isn't terrible.. just not considered stable :)
[07:18] <ovejanegra> what do I do now?
[07:18] <llutz> ovejanegra: grep "1280x800" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:18] <k-osh> ThePub: api-stable or production-stable?
[07:19] <ThePub> Over the last week I did some heavy read/write with the ntfs tools from edgy and never had an issue.  Not that'd I'd stake my life on it or anything though.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> Horse Stable
[07:19] <lm> Dr_willis: my drive is right now ntfs, and as far as i know, the 3g ntfs driver has VERY slo writing speeds.... thats why i thought, that converting it would make it alot easier
[07:19] <ThePub> And you're definitely better off using ntfs in windows than something else.
[07:20] <k-osh> Dr_willis: I can think of another horse-related expression about ntfs...
[07:20] <Dr_willis> lm,  proberly will.
[07:20] <ovejanegra> llutz, do i have to restar x now?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> Of course I rarely boot to windows any more
[07:20] <llutz> ovejanegra: stop, what did grep say?
[07:21] <ovejanegra> llutz,  Modes           "1280x960" "1280x800" "1280x768"
[07:22] <llutz> ovejanegra: hm, then "it should" work, no idea why not
[07:22] <llutz> ovejanegra: try to restart X, just press alt-control-backspace
[07:22] <ovejanegra> ok, i'll try that now
[07:22] <chjunior> ow, kubunto is beautiful
[07:22] <trappist> didn't man used to respect the MANPAGER env var?
[07:23] <freakout4321> hi everybody
[07:23] <styvy> hi
[07:24] <freakout4321> hmm, nice place
[07:24] <hans> hia freakout4321
[07:24] <ovejanegra> llutz, it works perfect now! Thank you very very much...
[07:24] <freakout4321> hey hans
[07:24] <freakout4321> the iggy master huh
[07:24] <hans> not in here
[07:26] <ovejanegra>  llutz, it works perfect now! Thank you very very much...
[07:27] <llutz> ovejanegra: fine
[07:29] <knithx> When i boot the live CD, after the kubuntu logo i gets freezed with a black screen, and nothing happens. I am using ATI. What can i do?
[07:33] <benner_> Dr_willis: after erased /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm when i boot into normal im i supposed to stay in cosole mode? or is it normal i see the blue kubuntu logo bootscreen?
[07:33] <k-osh> anyone good with lvm here? I get a kernel panic when booting my machine now. Seems to load some things and then _whammo_, Full stop.
[07:34] <k-osh> The error msg is "Cannot open root device". and "Please append a correct root= boot option". Anyone seen something like that?
[07:35] <k-osh> This might have happened during a kernel upgrade? Like lilo not being run afterwards perhaps?
[07:36] <ovejanegra> bye, and thanks for the help!
[07:37] <Dr_willis> benner_,  you are proberly refering to the 'splash screen' not the KDM login screen.
[07:37] <Dr_willis> benner_,  i always disable that useless eye candy. try hitting escape or apt-ctrl-F2
[07:37] <benner_> yes it load the splash screen and freeze there before the login screen
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Theres some key seqnence ya can hit that turns off that splash screen. It may  be just going to the console and showing a LOGIN: you cant see
[07:39] <benner_> because i deleted the /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm
[07:39] <Dr_willis> try hitting alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 to see if you can get to a console.
[07:40] <benner_> nope doesnt work
[07:40] <Dr_willis> I would boot to the 'rescue mode' and fix grub where its not hiding stuff. so you can see the error messages..
[07:40] <Dr_willis> edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file  and change
[07:40] <Dr_willis> # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
[07:40] <Dr_willis> #hiddenmenu
[07:41] <benner_> ok let me try
[07:41] <Dr_willis> that way you SEE the grub menu every time.. and then also change.  line.
[07:41] <digitalfreedom> how do install a .package file extension with apt? or can i?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> # defoptions=quiet splash
[07:41] <Dr_willis> to read    # defoptions= nosplash
[07:42] <paulw> k-osh: take a look here, might help:  http://kerneltrap.org/node/970
[07:43] <Dr_willis> then rerun   'sudo update-grub' to make the changes take effect.
[07:44] <benner_> and i restart in normal boot?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> reboot command, :)
[07:45] <Dr_willis> yep
[07:45] <Dr_willis> that 'should' disable the splash screen, and show you the GRUB menu also.
[07:45] <Dr_willis> THEN we can do some trouble shooting
[07:46] <benner_> same thing.. the splash appears again... but i get me grub menu.. i can choose from normal, recovery and winxp
[07:47] <Dr_willis> you get the grub menu, you select normal, you then get a splashlogo?
[07:47] <ubuntu_> #hellas
[07:47] <benner_> yes
[07:47] <cntb>  #hellas?
[07:48] <benner_> oups wait i think the menu.lst havent save... having dificulty with vim :)
[07:49] <Dr_willis> if you can see the grub menu, (or hit escape to see it) you can hit 'e' to edit the boot lines and append 'nosplash' to the end
[07:49] <jason> Hi all. I have a grub setup for XP and Kubuntu which was working fine until I added a new hard drive. Now I'm getting Grub error 17, but if I boot off the Kubuntu CD and choose 'Boot From First Hard Drive" I can get into Linux fine. Any ideas?
[07:49] <ErikTheRed> does anyone know of a software for connecting to a sony ericsson phone in linux?
[07:50] <Dr_willis> grub 'reorders' the drives depending on where that new one got installed to. it may have the hd#,# entrys incorrect
[07:51] <benner_> ok to wich line? root kernel initrd quiet etc..
[07:51] <hans> Dr_willis: sounds like it to me
[07:51] <Dr_willis> kernel= whatever.................................  nosplash (or change splash to nosplash)
[07:52] <jason> So how would I get it back to the 'old' order?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> jason,  other then removing the hd... you should reconfigure grub..
[07:52] <Dr_willis> GRUB is one of those tools thats worth learning and learning well.
[07:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:52] <benner_> ok no splash works.. im in the benner login:
[07:53] <Dr_willis> benner_,  so it wasent 'hanging' it was just not removing the splash logi.
[07:53] <Dr_willis> logo. :)
[07:53] <Dr_willis> and its time for me to go to work...
[07:53] <jason> Well, since my Kubuntu install was rather new I just reinstalled Kubuntu thinking it might re-write grub and it didn't. So just try editng grub.conf?
[07:53] <Dr_willis> at least now ya can boot to the login: and use 'startx'
[07:54] <Dr_willis> jason,  'try' ? heh heh .. 'edit it correctly'
[07:54] <Dr_willis> jason,  also your device.map may be incorrect now.
[07:54] <benner_> ok thanks you very much! it work now... just have to login.. ill use it like that ;)  THANKS
[07:54] <Dr_willis> benner_,  thats how i set mine up anyway :)
[07:54] <Dr_willis> bb in 8 hrs........
[08:02] <aleksanteri> O_o i took a look into the kubuntu cd
[08:02] <aleksanteri> found out that it was empty! :O
[08:02] <ThePub> konq sure does a pretty nice job rendering, it gets a little close with some of the css div stuff, but it has nicer lines than firefox.
[08:02] <ThePub> konq as a web browser :)
[08:03] <jason> Hmm. How do I get a list of hard drives?
[08:03] <jason> fdisk -l
[08:03] <jason> doesn't work.
[08:04] <mducharme> of mounted HD?
[08:04] <jason> Yes.
[08:05] <jason> Well, I'm trying t see if the device.map is right or not.
[08:05] <llutz> sudo fdisk -l or df -h (only mounted partitions)
[08:05] <mducharme> df -h or "mount"
[08:06] <memikep> how do i upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 using terminal?
[08:06] <ThePub> jason: it could just be as simple as moving your new disk "behind" your old one
[08:07] <jason> The thing is, though, I don't even get the grub menu before I get error 17.
[08:07] <ThePub> jason: that's because the order and priority has probably changed.
[08:09] <jason> So changing them in the device.map should fix it?
[08:09] <ThePub> I was thinking even easier.. just change where they're plugged in :p
[08:09] <aleksanteri> gotta boot Kubuntu now...
[08:09] <aleksanteri> bbl
[08:09] <ThePub> jason: meh, don't listen to me.  I'm all for the 'easy' solution :)
[08:10] <jason> Heh. Well, that involves the screwdriver. :)
[08:10] <jason> But if I do get the order correct in device.mp that'll fix my error 17?
[08:12] <platypus> i am using kubuntu on my machine and i notice that xorg cpu usage is abnormally high
[08:12] <platypus> always around 100%
[08:12] <platypus> please help
[08:12] <platypus> my cpu is a duo core athlon XP
[08:12] <xwolf-> !convert
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <jason> Ok. Well, thanks. I'm off to reboot.
[08:13] <hans> platypus: that is extremely high
[08:14] <platypus> hans: yeah has anyone experienced the same thing ?
[08:14] <platypus>  4159 root      16   0  337m  58m 5172 R   69  6.2  35:02.55 Xorg
[08:14] <xwolf-> i need to download this 'convert' program
[08:14] <xwolf-> where can i find it?
[08:15] <dumat2> Alguien sabe para cuando vuelve la web kubuntu-es
[08:15] <hans> platypus: never
[08:16] <platypus> :(
[08:16] <hans>  3997 root      15   0  108m  35m 5112 S  2.0  3.7   9:42.67 Xorg
[08:16] <platypus> wonder what's wrong
[08:17] <platypus> hans: yours is a dual core ?
[08:17] <metres> Hi all need a little help, I'd like to install Frozen bubble 2 on AMD64 it required some features like "Perl, SDL, SDL_image, DSL_mixer, SDLPerl and SDL_Pango" do someone know if these package are set by default ?
[08:17] <hans> platypus: nope I am poor
[08:17] <dumat2> en fin, ya me enterar
[08:17] <platypus> hans: what display card are you using ?
[08:17] <hans> AMD Sempron(tm) 2200+
[08:18] <ThePub> platypus: I don't have any issues with it either.
[08:18] <platypus> ThePub: yours is a dual core ?
[08:18] <aleksanteri> doesn't work :(
[08:18] <ThePub> platypus: no :(  just using a P4 2.8Ghz
[08:18] <platypus> hmm
[08:18] <platypus> prolly prob on the 64 side
[08:18] <xwolf-> i need to download this 'convert' program. where can i find it?
[08:19] <Schuenemann> dumat2: kubuntu in spanish? it's available
[08:19] <ThePub> xwolf-: convert what?
[08:19] <platypus> xwolf-: try ImageMagick
[08:19] <majnoon> having some trouble setting up pci video card
[08:19] <SlimG> what is the default samba port?
[08:20] <dumat2> la web ha desaparecido hace una semana aproximadamente
[08:20] <xwolf-> ThePub it just says convert.
[08:20] <ThePub> xwolf-: what's "it"?
[08:21] <Schuenemann> dumat2: la descarga del kubuntu?
[08:21] <platypus> xwolf-: it's part of imageMagick
[08:21] <xwolf-> ThePub "it" is the buildset.sh file for an icon set. i'm gonna try imagemagick like platypus said.
[08:21] <hans> SlimG: grep netb  /etc/service
[08:21] <hans> SlimG: grep netb  /etc/services
[08:21] <ThePub> xwolf-: sounds like there's your answere ^^^^
[08:21] <platypus> xwolf-: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php
[08:21] <platypus> read !
[08:22] <majnoon> lspci says it is an ATI RV100
[08:22] <dumat2> Schuenneman: no, un foro muy bueno que ha desaparecido
[08:23] <Schuenemann> ahh...
[08:23] <aleksanteri> kubuntu doesn't boot :(
[08:23] <llutz> majnoon: xorg-driver should be "ati" oder "radeon"
[08:23] <hans> aleksanteri: give it the boot then
[08:23] <ThePub> ati driver does all the varieties
[08:24] <ThePub> it'll automatically load radeon if it's the right one.
[08:24] <aleksanteri> hans: how? :P
[08:24] <hans> aleksanteri: dropcick it ?
[08:25] <hans> aleksanteri: nm, just trying to be funny
[08:25] <aleksanteri> ...
[08:25] <majnoon> it no detect card :(
[08:25] <aleksanteri> i don't see the fun point in that :|
[08:25] <hans> aleksanteri: does it boot from the live CD?
[08:25] <aleksanteri> yeah i burned it myself
[08:25] <hans> aleksanteri: did you boot from that?
[08:25] <Schuenemann> hans: in windows, the win key is a modifier key and it works stand alone too... do you think that's possible in kde too?
[08:25] <aleksanteri> yeah
[08:26] <aleksanteri> i also made it boot from the cd
[08:26] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri: did you try the media check?
[08:26] <aleksanteri> but it doesn't work
[08:26] <hans> Schuenemann: why not try it?
[08:26] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: what do you mean?
[08:26] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri: maybe the cd wasn't recorded well
[08:26] <aleksanteri> i fear one thing
[08:26] <hans> aleksanteri: and kubuntu came up when you booted from CD?
[08:27] <aleksanteri> no
[08:27] <aleksanteri> windows came up
[08:27] <Schuenemann> hans: if "try" means test in control center, it's not possible hehe
[08:27] <hans> aleksanteri: did you burn it as an image?
[08:27] <aleksanteri> yeah
[08:27] <aleksanteri> an iso file, put on the disk and burn
[08:27] <Schuenemann> was the cd executed when you booted?
[08:28] <aleksanteri> dunno
[08:28] <aleksanteri> i didn't see anything
[08:28] <majnoon> llutz i put output of lspci at majnoon.org/lspci.txt
[08:28] <hans> Schuenemann: I have not tried
[08:28] <aleksanteri> i guess it wasn't
[08:28] <Schuenemann> did you choose to boot from cd, on setup?
[08:28] <llutz> majnoon: frames  :(
[08:29] <hans> aleksanteri: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/e-smith/docs/howto/CD_burning_howto.html
[08:29] <aleksanteri> i read that already
[08:29] <hans> aleksanteri: can you boot from a windows install CD?
[08:29] <aleksanteri> dunno
[08:29] <hans> aleksanteri: try that
[08:29] <aleksanteri> i don't remember where i put it :P
[08:29] <majnoon> just a sec llutz
[08:29] <hans> lol
[08:30] <Schuenemann> on setup, you have to choose the cd-rom as the first boot device
[08:30] <majnoon> llutz try http://68.232.152.98:8000/lspci.txt
[08:30] <llutz> majnoon: better :)
[08:32] <llutz> majnoon: http://rafb.net/paste/results/YWxZdV87.html
[08:32] <llutz> majnoon: try those entries in you /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make a backup b4)
[08:34] <llutz> your
[08:34] <l0g0ff> ciao qualcuno sa come faccio per installare kvirc?
[08:36] <llutz> majnoon: look into your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[08:36] <aleksanteri> can't find it :|
[08:36] <majnoon> ok me TRY
[08:36] <gan|y|med> hi
[08:37] <gan|y|med> finally online again!!!
[08:37] <Schuenemann> l0g0ff: sudo apt-get install kvirc
[08:37] <aleksanteri> but what i can tell you is that i tried a kubuntu cd before, it booted correctly but it turned out to be corrupted. so i think that it's the iso file :|
[08:37] <aleksanteri> that's what i feared
[08:37] <gan|y|med> is sth. wrong with the ubuntu servers????
[08:37] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri: maybe it's the cd
[08:38] <aleksanteri> or the burner
[08:38] <Schuenemann> check the md5 of the ISO, if it's ok, then it's the cd
[08:38] <hans> aleksanteri: next time try to checksum the iso
[08:38] <Schuenemann> first time I downloaded the iso was ok, but the cd wasn't
[08:38] <aleksanteri> how do i check the md5?
[08:39] <hans> on windows there is a program calld md5summer or something
[08:39] <Schuenemann> type md5sum iso_file_name
[08:40] <aleksanteri> ok
[08:40] <majnoon> llutz try http://68.232.152.98:8000/xorg.conf
[08:40] <gan|y|med> ok, let me rephrase the question: are the servers down as i am not able to connect to ANY of the above links (didn't try paste)?
[08:41] <majnoon> says undefined device
[08:41] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: it can't find the md5sum program
[08:41] <minombre> buenas noches
[08:41] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri: sorry, I think you were using linux
[08:41] <aleksanteri> :p
[08:42] <Schuenemann> !md5summer
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md5summer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <hans> ubotu: are you a bot?
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <aleksanteri> lol
[08:42] <Schuenemann> hehe
[08:43] <Schuenemann> www.md5summer.org
[08:43] <reefer> hello
[08:43] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: ok
[08:43] <majnoon> !ATI
[08:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:43] <hans> ubotu:
[08:44] <llutz> majnoon: sry, no idea then
[08:44] <majnoon> thanx
[08:44] <hans> ubotu: me
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <llutz> majnoon: the newer ati-driver won't work with rv100
[08:44] <aleksanteri> ok
[08:44] <reefer> im trying to install kubuntu on a compaq presario 1400 but it ends with a black screen and amouse cursor in the middle and the mousepad doesnt work.. is a compaq presario1400 supported or whateve by kubuntu ?
[08:44] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: this will take a while
[08:44] <hans> reefer: did it boot ok from the live CD?
[08:45] <Schuenemann> yeah... big file
[08:45] <aleksanteri> 716 KB
[08:45] <aleksanteri> 716 000 KB *
[08:45] <Schuenemann> I mean the iso
[08:45] <aleksanteri> i know :P
[08:45] <aleksanteri> 716 704 KB to be accurate
[08:46] <reefer> hans you mean safe mode ?
[08:46] <hans> reefer: no boot from the CD
[08:47] <reefer> i see a menu with some options start /install/check cd  but i dont know how to boot live
[08:48] <hans> reefer: can you go on the net from the laptop now?
[08:49] <reefer> no
[08:49] <Hexidigital_> anyone here using bcm43xx-fwcutter and network-manager-kde experiece dropped networks with wifi?
[08:50] <hans> reefer: is kde up and going then?
[08:50] <zismuc> holaaaa
[08:50] <reefer> hans no im stuck at the boot menu
[08:50] <zismuc> spanish??
[08:50] <majnoon> says no device detected :(
[08:51] <hans> reefer: try start
[08:51] <dumat2> zismuc hola
[08:51] <reefer> im trying safe mode now but it takes a while heh
[08:52] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: results ;)
[08:52] <aleksanteri> the ISO is OK
[08:52] <aleksanteri> so it's the CD
[08:52] <Schuenemann> did you chose to boot from cd, on setup?
[08:52] <aleksanteri> yeah i did
[08:53] <aleksanteri> well this is logical; microsoft is so crap
[08:53] <Schuenemann> was it executed?
[08:53] <aleksanteri> don't know, i don't think so
[08:53] <Schuenemann> no noises from the cd spinning, lights?
[08:53] <aleksanteri> yeah those were seen/heard
[08:54] <aleksanteri> but nothing about Linux was shown
[08:54] <RawSewage> how do you connect to a remote server host with konsole again
[08:54] <benner_> i just installed SMB4K to access to my server shares.. and everytime i mount a share it's dissapear 1 sec after without been mount. or i get a su error.. i remember i already had this problem but dont remember what i did before
[08:54] <Schuenemann> it's weird... I don't know
[08:54] <RawSewage> benner_, you have to install samba
[08:54] <aleksanteri> i tell you something; i have been watching a successful linux installation. it hadn't had this problem
[08:54] <aleksanteri> and it was Kubuntu
[08:55] <sb9>  hi, another question, i want to mount a disk 1.44MB in linux which can be read by a windows system - what filesystem do i have to choose ?
[08:55] <Schuenemann> well, I'd try burning another cd
[08:55] <aleksanteri> yeah ok
[08:55] <hans> sb9: fat
[08:55] <aleksanteri> and i also try Nero burning software
[08:55] <aleksanteri> i have nero 5
[08:55] <sb9> -t fat ?
[08:55] <hans> yep
[08:55] <aleksanteri> but i have problems but i think i will be able to overcome them...
[08:55] <sb9> thx
[08:55] <RawSewage> aleksanteri, why dont you use k3b
[08:55] <Schuenemann> he's using windows
[08:56] <aleksanteri> RawSewage: huh?
[08:56] <RawSewage> oh
[08:56] <aleksanteri> :P
[08:56] <sb9> only vfat is possible
[08:56] <hans> use that
[08:56] <RawSewage> how do you connect to a remote server host with konsole again
[08:56] <RawSewage> it's very simple, but I forgot
[08:56] <sb9> i did, it seems to work
[08:56] <Schuenemann> RawSewage: does k3b unlock protected cds/dvds?
[08:56] <RawSewage> Schuenemann, k3b is for KDE, not Windows
[08:56] <sb9> thx a lot
[08:56] <Schuenemann> I know, but does it?
[08:57] <hans> RawSewage: ssh -l user hostname/hostIP
[08:57] <RawSewage> idk
[08:57] <aleksanteri> well
[08:57] <RawSewage> hans, ty
[08:57] <aleksanteri> whatever was the case, i will use Nero
[08:57] <hans> RawSewage: yw
[08:58] <aleksanteri> lmao explorer crashed :P
[08:58] <Schuenemann> explorer sucks a lot
[08:58] <aleksanteri> yeah
[08:58] <hans> well nothing is perfect (yet)
[08:59] <aleksanteri> nothing by microsoft is perfect and will never be :P
[08:59] <Schuenemann> specially IE
[08:59] <aleksanteri> yeah especially IE
[08:59] <aleksanteri> i am personally Opera addicted :P
[08:59] <Schuenemann> I like firefox
[08:59] <VSpike> Opera is great
[08:59] <Schuenemann> because of the extensions
[08:59] <aleksanteri> well :P
[09:00] <aleksanteri> many us at the opera community hates firefox :P
[09:00] <hans> Schuenemann: same here
[09:00] <hans> aleksanteri: and why is that?
[09:00] <aleksanteri> because firefox is their worst opponent
[09:00] <RawSewage> interestingly enough, a few weeks ago I performed the Acid test on Firefox and Konqueror.  Firefox didnt pass.  Konqueror did
[09:00] <llutz> Schuenemann: firefox is nearly unusable without those extensions :)
[09:00] <VSpike> firefox is better now than it was when it first came out
[09:01] <Schuenemann> I disagree... it's unsable
[09:01] <Schuenemann> without the extensions, it's the same as opera :D
[09:01] <hans> aleksanteri: only reason I did not like opera is because it was not free
[09:01] <aleksanteri> it's free now
[09:01] <Schuenemann> I mean it's NOT unusable
[09:01] <llutz> hans firefox isn't free too
[09:01] <hans> yes it is, but now firefox is here
[09:01] <aleksanteri> yeah
[09:01] <aleksanteri> :( opera was too late
[09:02] <Schuenemann> firefox is open-source
[09:02] <apokryphos> firefox is free and open source
[09:02] <aleksanteri> i know
[09:02] <llutz> if firefox would be free, debian wouldn't have to call it iceweasel ;)
[09:02] <apokryphos> opera is only free as in price, not as in liberty
[09:02] <hans> llutz: how do you mean?
[09:02] <hans> haha
[09:02] <llutz> there are unfree parts in, so it isn't free
[09:02] <aleksanteri> hmm should ask them why it's not open-source :|
[09:02] <hans> apokryphos: yeah
[09:02] <Schuenemann> anybody here tried swiftfox? it's an optmized firefox
[09:02] <Schuenemann> for linux
[09:02] <hans> I love the ff plugins
[09:03] <hans> like addblock plus
[09:03] <trappist> sigh.  firefox is free.  but if you change it you're not supposed to call it firefox anymore.
[09:03] <VSpike> the reason opera ppl don't like firefox is sour grapes.. opera was around for ages being better by miles than IE, and when firefox came out, everyone was talking about firefox in the media and among joe user
[09:03] <reefer> hans i tried booting in safe mode .. but the result is the same I see a black screen with a black mousecursor in the middle and nothing seems to be happening
[09:03] <VSpike> at least, that was the reason I didnt like it for a long time :)
[09:03] <trappist> but, this is appropriate for #kubuntu-offtopic.  this is a support channel.
[09:04] <hans> reefer: in that case I doubt kubuntu is for your laptop
[09:04] <Schuenemann> I've read it's about 80% faster on 64bit processors and 40% on 32bit ones
[09:04] <hans> reefer: try mepis instead, it's based on kubuntu, but has more drivers
[09:04] <reefer> hm ok thanks
[09:04] <sparrw> how do i make the damn kde busy cursor go away sooner when im doing things like opening a page in firefox from another app?  i doubleclick the link in irc or email and it launches firefox, which is smart enough to open the link in the old window, but the new invisible window and the busy cursor stay for 30 seconds
[09:05] <aleksanteri> well my story is that i had ie, but it started crashing, i got netscape and firefox which took too long to download and the only choice left was opera. after it i never looked back.
[09:05] <aleksanteri> note i had an old computer with win98 then
[09:05] <VSpike> good point.. i cme with a question.  Why have the icons on my KDE panel suddenly decided to spread themselves out to a ridiculous extent such that 6 application icons and the KDE menu icon take up about half the screen at 1600x1200?
[09:05] <Schuenemann> http://www.getswiftfox.com/
[09:06] <aleksanteri> took too long to load up*
[09:06] <VSpike> And how can I persuade them to snuggle up again?  Trying to drag them together makes it worse.  They repel like similar poles of a magnet and in fact end up spread out even more, crushing the task bar part up
[09:06] <aleksanteri> well
[09:07] <aleksanteri> i will go becuase i need to do something on another comp, related to Nero. bbl
[09:07] <aleksanteri> because*
[09:07] <ThePub> any suggestions of a kde compliant wm that has a rigid window placement policy related to the last window position?
[09:08] <VSpike> Also, is there any way to alpha sort the KDE menu?
[09:08] <trappist> ThePub: kde's window placement policy is highly configurable
[09:10] <ThePub> trappist: really?  beyond the drop down that apparently doesn't configure anything?
[09:11] <hans> ubotu: anything
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <hans> hehe
[09:13] <VSpike> is KDE's screensaver really as broken as xscreensaver website makes it out to be?
[09:14] <VSpike> it certainly wouldn't work for me -- I installed xscreensaver and disabled kscreensaver and now all is well.
[09:15] <easytiger> this bullcrap filesystem thing in *ubuntu 6.10.. how do you turn it off
[09:18] <Lynoure> Is gnupg safe in Dapper or why does the security announcement only mention Edgy?
[09:19] <Lynoure> From what I read  versions before 1.2.1 should be affected, so Dapper too
[09:20] <ThePub> easytiger: what's the issue?
[09:20] <Lynoure> oh, there it is...
[09:20] <easytiger> ThePub: i just hate it lol
[09:21] <VSpike> it's always hard to know when you get no reponse to questions whether you're asking the wrong questions, or asking them in the wrong way, or whether simply no-one knows the answer
[09:22] <easytiger> VSpike: thats irc for you
[09:22] <VSpike> yeah.. should be used to it by now :)
[09:22] <easytiger> i;d say i get a usefull answer to 15% of questions
[09:23] <VSpike> normally if you do ask a stupid question people helpfully respond rtfm or utfs :)
[09:23] <majnoon> trying to install an ATI rv100 video card (no luck) it doesn't detect the card but lspci SAYS it is there
[09:23] <VSpike> #ubuntu and #kubuntu are better than many
[09:24] <ThePub> majnoon: you've run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and went through it making sure you chose the ati driver?
[09:24] <majnoon> yup
[09:25] <majnoon> doesn't even "recognize" the card
[09:25] <majnoon> ThePub: you in X ??
[09:25] <ThePub> so what errors do you get when trying to run startx?
[09:25] <majnoon> it SAYS no devices detected
[09:26] <VSpike> the solution I found on the panel was to remove everything and then put it back :)
[09:26] <VSpike> a bit harsh but it worked
[09:26] <Schuenemann> everytime I run a program through konsole I get lots of errors... what could that be?
[09:26] <Schuenemann> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[09:26] <VSpike> Schuenemann: what program?
[09:26] <Schuenemann> any program
[09:27] <ThePub> majnoon: could you link a pastebin of your errors?
[09:27] <Schuenemann> kate, firefox, amarok....
[09:27] <Schuenemann> the program seems to work well, though
[09:27] <Schuenemann> Failed to open device
[09:27] <VSpike> Schuenemann: when I got stuff like that it was a whole load of "wacom" stuff in xorg.config that just needed to be commented out
[09:27] <majnoon> can you tell me WHERE to look ??
[09:28] <njende> Howdy Folks
[09:28] <Schuenemann> VSpike: can I copy the error to you private? it's big
[09:28] <twinstars> bonjour
[09:28] <njende> Schuenemann: use pastebin
[09:28] <njende> !paste
[09:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <ThePub> majnoon: can't tell you where to look if don't know where the issue is.  the ati driver "just works" usually.  if lspci shows it as there, then it should "just work"
[09:28] <twinstars> o it's the english channel ^^
[09:28] <majnoon> ThePub: you have a browser that can do frames ??
[09:28] <twinstars> do you can help me ?
[09:29] <njende> twinstars: about what?
[09:29] <twinstars> euh
[09:29] <ThePub> majnoon: well, I'm using konq.. suppose that supports frames, why?
[09:29] <twinstars> i'm under Mandriva 2007
[09:29] <twinstars> and i need help to install a program
[09:29] <VSpike> Schuenemann: like you said the programs ran fine
[09:29] <majnoon> majnoon.org/paste i put lspci info there
[09:29] <njende> twinstars: what about if you would ask your probs in the mandriva channel?This Kubuntu
[09:29] <VSpike> Schuenemann: I'm no expert.. it would mean nothign to me.. i found the answer by googling the exact error i got.
[09:30] <majnoon> and xorg.conf
[09:30] <Schuenemann> VSpike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35953/
[09:30] <artur> how to change computer name in kubuntu dapper ?
[09:30] <Schuenemann> hmmm ok
[09:30] <easytiger> yea.. its just excess xorg stuff. mostly harmless
[09:31] <Schuenemann> they seem to work fine
[09:31] <majnoon> ThePub: where are the X error logs ??
[09:31] <artur123> ?
[09:32] <llutz>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:32] <majnoon> got it
[09:32] <ThePub> majnoon: what llutz said, making coffee :)
[09:33] <brk> hey
[09:33] <brk> :)
[09:33] <majnoon> ok llutz i have the logs and etc at http://68.232.152.98:8000/paste/
[09:34] <VSpike> Schuenemann: I get the "QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter" from Kate every time
[09:34] <VSpike> I googled it and it seems to be common and harmless
[09:34] <ThePub> majnoon: you have installed the fglrx driver?
[09:34] <[lele] > hey i need a lil help....i want to install vidalia....but configure says  Vidalia requires Qt 4.1.0 or greater. You may need to install
[09:34] <ErikTheRed> does anyone know of a software like daemon tools or alcohol 120% for linux?
[09:35] <ThePub> majnoon: what's your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file look like?
[09:35] <Schuenemann> ErikTheRed: burn cd? k3b does it
[09:35] <Schuenemann> VSpike: well, I can live with that =] 
[09:35] <majnoon> ThePub: i have the logs and etc at http://68.232.152.98:8000/paste/
[09:35] <easytiger> :wq
[09:35] <ErikTheRed> can k3b handle more than just .iso files?
[09:35] <easytiger> opps
[09:35] <majnoon> LOTSA pci info
[09:35] <llutz> majnoon:try : BusId "PCI:1:9:0"
[09:35] <ErikTheRed> i have some backups i made with alcohol but they're in the mdf/mds format
[09:36] <majnoon> ok will TRY
[09:36] <VSpike> trouble with this for non-experts is its like principle in coding about getting rid of all your hints and warnings during builds, so that when an important one shows up you actually notice it rather that it getting lost in the noise of harmless ones
[09:36] <Schuenemann> I don't see this format here
[09:36] <ErikTheRed> yeah i don't see it either
[09:36] <VSpike> ErikTheRed: I'm sure I saw something about how you just mount an ISO file directly in linux as a block device
[09:36] <ErikTheRed> yeah i've done that before
[09:37] <ThePub> majnoon: change the line "	Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0] " 0 0"
[09:37] <ErikTheRed> it's just the other formats that I'm having trouble with
[09:37] <ThePub> majnoon: it should be "Screen "Default Screen"
[09:37] <llutz> VSpike: mount -o loop -t fsystem image.iso /mount/point
[09:37] <Schuenemann> ErikTheRed: do you know a program that unlock blocked cds?
[09:37] <Schuenemann> protected ones
[09:37] <ErikTheRed> huh?
[09:38] <Schuenemann> some cd/dvd are protected and can't be copied
[09:38] <main2> i got a .dat file here, which i need to use - but i have no idea in what format the file is
[09:38] <Schuenemann> in windows there is a program called anydvd that unlocks them
[09:38] <ErikTheRed> oh
[09:38] <main2> i tried 'file' but that says that its 'data', not really helpfull either
[09:38] <ErikTheRed> yeah i'm not sure of a linux equivalent for that
[09:39] <ErikTheRed> similar to what i'm looking for, mainly for games
[09:39] <main2> is there a way, to automaticly find out in what format .dat file is?
[09:39] <ErikTheRed> i like to take images of my games so i don't have to bring all the cds with, but it looks like i'll just have to use no-cd cracks or something
[09:39] <llutz> main2: "file"  ;)
[09:39] <njende> main2: .dat is a dos/redmond file extension
[09:39] <jef_> quit
[09:39] <styvy> Schueneman, i burn them raw, but you need a burner that supports raw (like some plextors)
[09:40] <[lele] > so....any help about Qt ?
[09:40] <njende> Dasnipa`: Howdy... ;-)
[09:40] <main2> njende: its invented in the dos time yes, but that doesnt tell me anything more ..
[09:40] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards one pci and one onboard how do i make one the default!
[09:41] <njende> main2: AFAIR it was also used by dbase
[09:41] <njende> main2: use google
[09:41] <Schuenemann> styvy: where can I find one?
[09:41] <llutz> main2: .dat ist used by lots of apps just for unspecified data-files, so i don't think there'll be a way to get more info about
[09:41] <ThePub> majnoon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35956/
[09:41] <main2> njende: nahh.. ive used dbase 12years ago last time
[09:41] <main2> njende:  im not gonna google for that
[09:42] <main2> llutz: yes indeed, i wonder if there is something more advanced then 'file' :/
[09:42] <llutz> main2: i don't think so
[09:43] <[lele] > i want to install vidalia....but configure says  Vidalia requires Qt 4.1.0 or greater. You may need to install
[09:43] <njende> main2: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=.DAT
[09:43] <majnoon> says no matching device found
[09:44] <njende> main2: http://ask-leo.com/whats_a_dat_file.html
[09:44] <ubuntu> how do i get my Grub back? i installed windows after linux and it messed me up
[09:44] <majnoon> found it
[09:45] <ryanakca> why does apt* keep on crashing with a sigsev? backtrace : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35927/          I've reinstalled apt and libc6 and rebooted as well to try to fix the problem. I've remove /var/lib/apt/lists/*, same problem. run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a, same problem
[09:45] <njende> main2: giving google "file extension dat" it took google 0,4secs to throw out heaps of explanations
[09:45] <majnoon> download it ??
[09:45] <ryanakca> !grub ubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[09:45] <ryanakca> !grub | ubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:45] <ryanakca> oops..., sorry :)
[09:45] <njende> main2: so, basically, if youe to lazy to do make your won researches, why should we do that?
[09:45] <main2> njende:  yes that page says .dat 'Can be just about anything' >> thats why i wonder if there's a program/tool (more advanced then file) which can
[09:45] <main2> njende: ur just bothering me, and not being helpfull at all
[09:46] <majnoon> ThePub: download it ??
[09:46] <njende> main2: http://ask-leo.com/whats_a_dat_file.html
[09:46] <ThePub> majnoon: download?
[09:46] <main2> that page says .dat 'Can be just about anything' >> thats why i wonder if there's a program/tool (more advanced then file) which can help me?
[09:46] <user__> hi
[09:46] <majnoon> the paste page
[09:47] <majnoon> try THAT for xorg.conf ??
[09:47] <ThePub> majnoon: all it looks like is your screen line in the server layout is wrong.  it's calling an fglrx setup, which could have some issues.  just use the open source setup you have.
[09:47] <user__> i just got this kubuntu thing, and would really like to be able to view flash...
[09:47] <user__> can anyone help me?
[09:47] <Hawkwind> !flash | user__
[09:47] <ubotu> user__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:48] <njende> main2: "... if you don't know what application created the file, there's no way to know how to open it."
[09:48] <ThePub> majnoon: so really the only import change would be to go into your xorg.conf and comment out the screen line and add below it:  Screen "Default Screen"
[09:48] <ThePub> s/import/important/
[09:48] <llutz> majnoon: check if fglrc supports RV100, IIRC it won't
[09:48] <Schuenemann> ErikTheRed: http://freshmeat.net/projects/mdf2iso/
[09:49] <ThePub> llutz: it doesn't, which is why I asked him to make that change to xorg :)
[09:49] <llutz> ThePub: ups, sry
[09:49] <ErikTheRed> thanks Schuenemann
[09:49] <majnoon> ThePub: in "Screen" section ??
[09:49] <ThePub> llutz: he has it all set up right, it's just calling the wrong screen
[09:49] <ThePub> majnoon: "Server layout" there's a line name "Screen"
[09:50] <user__> I downloaded the flash plugin for firefox, but can't get it to work.
[09:50] <ThePub> majnoon: it's the first 'section' in your xorg.conf file right now.  says:  Section "Server Layout" ...
[09:51] <majnoon> changed that getting same type error
[09:52] <hans> !test
[09:52] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:52] <hans> haha
[09:52] <ThePub> majnoon: *shrug*  all the things are in place.  maybe remove the pci line from the device "ATI RADEON v1000"
[09:52] <njende> main2: http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/file_extensions/dat.cfm
[09:53] <main2> njende: nahh, thanks for looking a long - but what i do know is:
[09:53] <main2> that its used as text in a program
[09:53] <njende> main2: what?
[09:53] <majnoon> will try
[09:53] <njende> main2: so its a binary file?
[09:53] <styvy> Schuenemann, sorry, been afk for a moment,; k3b supports raw writing, like nero does
[09:54] <user__> i can't find the firefox plugin folder...
[09:54] <main2> njende: in the end, every file is binary
[09:54] <Schuenemann> styvy: that's for removing the protection?
[09:54] <main2> njende: to me, it simply looks like its slightly compressed
[09:54] <njende> main2: wow...thanks for telling me; the question behind it is if you are able to open it i.e. with vim
[09:54] <Schuenemann> user__:  ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:54] <user__> thanks.
[09:54] <majnoon> THAT DID IT me think
[09:55] <majnoon> brb
[09:55] <gan|y|med> hi
[09:55] <Frederick> folks I managed to set up accents and brazilian characters for gtk applications but it doesnt work for open office, any ideas?
[09:55] <heinkel_111> if i change my default shell (in edgy) to bash, will taht make some trouble?
[09:55] <njende> Frederick: ypou
[09:55] <main2> njende: i can open it with vim
[09:56] <njende> Frederick: you may need to install the brazil language packs
[09:56] <Schuenemann> user__: sorry, it's not that... you have to through ~/.mozilla/firefox/...
[09:56] <njende> Frederick: ass
[09:56] <ThePub> oops, he needed to apply llutz suggestion to his other ati configuraiton
[09:56] <njende> Frederick: assistant
[09:56] <ThePub> oh well :)
[09:56] <njende> fredereick
[09:56] <gan|y|med> it's beena long time since i did set up grub last time. how is the video option for changing the number of lines during boot-up (the one with the tux image)?
[09:56] <Frederick> njende: wich is it name?
[09:56] <majnoon> getting weird lines in X though
[09:56] <njende> Frederick: if you click on File
[09:57] <njende> Frederick: then on assistant
[09:57] <majnoon> ThePub: it SEMI working
[09:58] <njende> Frederick: its the wizard ;-)
[09:58] <majnoon> getting weird lines in kde now
[09:58] <ThePub> majnoon: so what's your xorg.conf look like now?
[09:58] <llutz> majnoon: only 100% counts ;)
[09:59] <styvy> Schuenemann, thatt's for copying a protected cd, the copy is a clone, so it's still protected
[09:59] <multifu> msg nickserv register
[10:00] <majnoon> 68.232.152.98:8000/paste/  changed log
[10:00] <majnoon> *xorg.conf
[10:00] <Schuenemann> styvy: there's a windows program called anydvd that removes the protection so you can copy... is that the same?
[10:01] <styvy> no, it's just reading and writing raw data, so that the protection don't work
[10:02] <styvy> doesn't
[10:03] <JohnFlux> what's the x module called for "direct video"
[10:03] <JohnFlux> dga?
[10:03] <JohnFlux> When I run xawtv  I get X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[10:04] <sergio__> oi
[10:04] <majnoon> ThePub: you see anything wrong still ??
[10:05] <majnoon> the box SAYS it a nvidia geforce mx4000
[10:05] <njende> Frederick: still here?
[10:06] <njende> Frederick: http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html
[10:06] <sergio__> yes
[10:06] <sergio__> oi
[10:06] <njende> Frederick: or you may want to join the openoffice.org channel @ freenode
[10:06] <njende> main2:
[10:07] <njende> main2: where and how did you get the *.dat file?
[10:07] <ThePub> majnoon: except lspci clearly says it's an ati, eh?
[10:08] <majnoon> YUP
[10:08] <njende> Frederick: !ping
[10:08] <mildner> please send me the german ubuntu link
[10:08] <njende> mildner: huh?
[10:08] <njende> mildner: what german ubuntu link?
[10:08] <ThePub> majnoon: maybe start removing stuff that isn't necessary, idk.  if it's work, then the card is apparently responding.
[10:09] <ThePub> majnoon: can comment out dri, glx in files
[10:09] <mildner> I think here is only kubuntu....isn't it....my system is ubuntu
[10:09] <ThePub> majnoon: double-check your monitor sync/refresh numbers to make sur ethey're correct for your monitor
[10:09] <njende> mildner: so just change the channel to ubunut
[10:09] <njende> mildner: so just change the channel to ubuntu
[10:10] <njende> mildner: shouldnt be such abig deal
[10:10] <njende> !ubuntu
[10:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:10] <ThePub> majnoon: comment out the usefbdev line under the device section
[10:10] <njende> mildner: there are no links for IRC's
[10:10] <ThePub> majnoon: and if you're using gdm/kdm then issue /etc/init.d/(gdm/kdm) restart
[10:11] <majnoon> ok me try
[10:11] <njende> mildner: have it?
[10:11] <Frederick> folks I managed to set up accents and brazilian characters for gtk applications but it doesnt work for open office, any ideas? ive installed the br language pack also
[10:11] <njende> mildner: if not, what client do you use to join the IRC?
[10:12] <aleksanteri> great, M$' CD burner ruined my CD's :| >:(
[10:12] <njende> mildner: no answer is cool, as it makes it impossible to help ;-)
[10:13] <njende> mildner: !ping
[10:13] <njende> n8 folks
[10:15] <majnoon> ok only about half the lines
[10:16] <shadowhywind> i was wondering if someone could help me with a problem. I can not seam to get an ip with a different computer. all i have the konsole. and i don't remember the command to get an ip
[10:16] <majnoon> ThePub:  ok only about half the lines
[10:16] <ThePub> hmm
[10:17] <ThePub> lol, ok
[10:17] <ThePub> wierd
[10:22] <majnoon> how change resolution  ??
[10:22] <coreymon77> guys
[10:23] <coreymon77> ThePub: was it you who told me about the remote assistance like program for kubuntu
[10:23] <gan|y|med> i use kmldonkey. the status of the files i wanna download is "looking" and doesn't change. firewall settings should be okay. any idea why this is so?
[10:24] <rexbron> can anyone tell me how to absorb free space in front of a partition into that partition?
[10:25] <majnoon> ThePub:  how change resolution  ??
[10:25] <ThePub> majnoon: ctrl-alt-+ should give you some options
[10:25] <ThePub> majnoon: or -
[10:25] <shadowhywind> what is a konsole command to grab an ip addy?
[10:26] <majnoon> brb
[10:31] <hans> shadowhywind: grab as in how?
[10:31] <hans> ifconfig?
[10:31] <shadowhywind> like a dhcpcd
[10:32] <hans> dhclient
[10:32] <shadowhywind> dhclient isn't installed
[10:32] <majnoon> ok switched to lower res it LOOKS ok
[10:33] <ThePub> majnoon: the resolution can be guaranteed by editing the modes
[10:33] <majnoon> did reconfigure of xserver-xorg
[10:34] <ThePub> majnoon: asked if you did that originally and you claimed you did.
[10:34] <MalfermitaKodo> Can someone help me before I go Windows again?
[10:34] <MalfermitaKodo> I want to have adept back!
[10:34] <coreymon77> guys
[10:34] <majnoon> not sure
[10:35] <coreymon77> what is the port i have to ipen in my routers firewall for vnx remote desktop connection
[10:35] <coreymon77> in other words
[10:35] <coreymon77> krdc
[10:36] <MalfermitaKodo> coreymon77: can't you select it?
[10:36] <majnoon> not sure WHAT i did
[10:39] <MalfermitaKodo> *feels
[10:40] <notech> no need to swear
[10:40] <MalfermitaKodo> notech: I needed to vent somewhere and can't be loud IRLly. I want to install programs and can not with any program
[10:41] <aleksanteri> :D kubuntu works!
[10:41] <notech> not really a good excuse....but use apt-get frm the command line
[10:42] <MalfermitaKodo> apt-get is not possible because I do not know the name, synaptic crashes my PC and that weird program which comes as default is crashy and fails to find anything
[10:42] <coreymon77> guys
[10:42] <aleksanteri> ok gotta install ;)
[10:42] <coreymon77> im trying to use krdc and im having router firewall problems
[10:43] <ThePub> MalfermitaKodo: use apt-cache to search for what you want, then apt-get to install?
[10:43] <MalfermitaKodo> is there nothing graphical anymore for this?
[10:44] <julle> Is there anyone who can tell me who i put up a VNC server on my comp via the terminal ?
[10:44] <ThePub> MalfermitaKodo: sure, synaptic.. adept..  tbh, the console tools are straight forward, faster and don't get in your way.
[10:44] <coreymon77> guys
[10:44] <coreymon77> im trying to use krdc and im having router firewall problems
[10:44] <coreymon77> what are the ports that i have to open?
[10:44] <MalfermitaKodo> adept does not exist!
[10:44] <MalfermitaKodo> adept
[10:44] <MalfermitaKodo> bash: adept: command not found
[10:44] <coreymon77> and does the person im connecting to have to have a static i[
[10:45] <coreymon77> ip*
[10:45] <coreymon77> or will dhcp work
[10:45] <Schuenemann> how can I use my infrared with linux?
[10:45] <MalfermitaKodo> coreymon77: you need to know the IP
[10:46] <ThePub> MalfermitaKodo: so install adept using apt?
[10:46] <BluesKaj> synaptic too
[10:46] <coreymon77> he sent me an invite
[10:47] <mc__> how to configure vpn with knetworkmanager?
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> sudo apt-get install adept
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:48] <ThePub> MalfermitaKodo: so you have some package manager already running.
[10:48] <mc__> MalfermitaKodo: are you running anythin like adept,aptitude oder apt-get atm?
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> of course, synaptic crashed my PC
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> this is why it is still locked
[10:48] <mc__> MalfermitaKodo:  sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> but this program is not running like now
[10:49] <mc__> MalfermitaKodo: just remove the lock
[10:49] <MalfermitaKodo> no such file or directory
[10:49] <hans> nah the automated updater locks the file
[10:49] <MalfermitaKodo> oh, I typoed
[10:49] <MalfermitaKodo> my mistake
[10:50] <hans> check what process has it locked
[10:50] <MalfermitaKodo> adept is already the newest verseion
[10:50] <MalfermitaKodo> *version
[10:50] <MalfermitaKodo> (yes, I am translating the error-messages into English)
[10:51] <Schuenemann> anyone know how can I use my infrared with linux?
[10:53] <sungam> MalfermitaKodo | !adept crash fix
[10:54] <sungam> ... ubotu was supposed to reply: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a' :/
[10:54] <MalfermitaKodo> hmm?
[10:54] <MalfermitaKodo> ah
[10:55] <MalfermitaKodo> well, it works now
[10:55] <tony__> hello...can anyone tell me how to install frozen bubbles for kubuntu edgy eft
[10:56] <MalfermitaKodo> tony__: sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble
[10:57] <tony__> it says couldn't find package frozen-bubble
[10:58] <max_> i tried to do a dual boot (windows and linux, linux being the primary) but i did it wrong and installed windows second, so i lost my GRUB, i reinstalled the GRUB but now when i press <esc> while booting i dont see windows a a OS choice, only kubuntu and kubuntu (recovery)....help anyone?
[10:58] <majnoon> ThePub: it just on the higher reolutions
[10:58] <sungam> !frozen-bubble
[10:58] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[10:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:58] <sungam> tony__, add universe to your repositories
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> majnoon, ^^^^
[10:59] <majnoon> ???
[10:59] <max_> TheGateKeeper: my grub is installed, but it only recognizes linux, not windows also
[10:59] <majnoon> having ATI video probs NOT grub troubles
[10:59] <TheGateKeeper> majnoon, read ubotu
[11:00] <TheGateKeeper> majnoon, sorry wrong person
[11:00] <sungam> max_, read the page TheGateKeeper got for you from ubotu :)
[11:00] <tony__> i already have all the repositories enabled..at least I think i do..i've enabled universe and multiverse
[11:00] <sungam> max_, basically you need to add windows to your menu.lst, there should be an example in there
[11:01] <tony__> i'm a noob too..so please keep this in mind
[11:01] <max_> sungam: oh, ok thanks
[11:01] <TheGateKeeper> l8r folks
[11:01] <sungam> tony__, have you updated?
[11:01] <sungam> tony__, sudo apt-get update
[11:01] <tony__> ok..updating now
[11:02] <wildchild> I can't belive this shit! yesterday as before I had problems with opening music file in amarok, audacity and terminatorx. Then stefaans told me this command: tail -f  /var/log/messages  and everything worked fine. And today similar problem, just that terminatorx and audacity won't play music :SSSSS
[11:02] <tony__> woohoo..it's now working..installing it right now!!..thanks so much!!
[11:02] <max_> sungam: can you tell me what example it is? i dont know what your talking about
[11:03] <Schuenemann> wildchild: you did sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs ?
[11:03] <wildchild> Schuenemann: yes
[11:03] <wildchild> I did this after I've installed edgy
[11:03] <tony__> now that I have frozen bubble...I hear tux racer is also good...do i get it the same way? sudo apt-get install tux-racer?
[11:03] <Schuenemann> I don't know, sorry
[11:03] <wildchild> :SS
[11:04] <sungam> max_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu
[11:05] <sungam> wildchild, all 'tail -f /var/log/messages' does is print the last entries in the file /var/log/messages :)
[11:05] <harmental> hi ..
[11:05] <max_> sungam: thank you very much
[11:05] <harmental> where are apps icon files in kubuntu?
[11:05] <wildchild> I know, but funny thing is after this amarok was playing also audacity and terminatorx
[11:06] <sungam> max_, np... that site is golden if you're new to linux :)
[11:07] <max_> singam: im not new, ive just never tried a dual boot before
[11:07] <sungam> max_, well. either way, it's still a site worth checking if you need to look up how to do stuff. Most of the standard things you need to do are there :)
[11:07] <aleksanteri> btw
[11:07] <aleksanteri> need a little help
[11:08] <max_> singam: everyone loves wiki's
[11:08] <eilker> !samba
[11:08] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:08] <knapp__> Anyone know of a way to integrate like a "Upload to Imageshack (or other image hosting service)" into the right-click menu, or possibly into dikiKam?
[11:08] <aleksanteri> does anyone know the location of the file where you can set the "AllowRootLogin" option?
[11:09] <knapp__> aleksanteri: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_allow_root_user_to_login_into_GNOME
[11:09] <rizo> hello
[11:09] <aleksanteri> knapp__: thx will look into that
[11:09] <sungam> !root | aleksanteri
[11:09] <ubotu> aleksanteri: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:10] <sungam> just a bit late :)
[11:10] <knapp__> Anyone know of a way to integrate like a "Upload to Imageshack (or other image hosting service)" into the right-click menu, or possibly into dikiKam?
[11:10] <aleksanteri> ahh it was at "/etc/kde/kdm"
[11:11] <Schuenemann> anybody knows how to use a usb infrared device with linux?
[11:16] <LordOliver> how do I find out if there is a linmodem for my pc?
[11:16] <Frederick> folks wich is the comand on the american keyboard to input a 
[11:16] <Frederick> ?
[11:16] <LordOliver> there is none
[11:17] <Frederick> how do  I do it?
[11:17] <Frederick> alt+ a combo?
[11:17] <sungam> ALT-0178 I think
[11:17] <Schuenemann> alt 167 ?
[11:17] <sungam> or that
[11:18] <Schuenemann> or 186 heh
[11:18] <sungam> :)
[11:18] <sungam> I can't test it.. I'm on a laptop
[11:18] <rizo> :
[11:18] <Frederick> damm none of tose comands owrk here
[11:18] <rizo> :)
[11:18] <Schuenemann> can't test here because konversation switches channel tabs
[11:21] <galathalion> i need a program like notepad in kde
[11:21] <sungam> kate
[11:21] <Schuenemann> kate?
[11:21] <nav> hey is anyone in here familiar with hardware recognition?
[11:22] <jbruckman> nav:  what sort of hardware
[11:22] <galathalion> sungam: is it originally in kde?
[11:22] <jbruckman> nav: or were you just referring to in general?
[11:22] <nav> I have a control on the front of my laptop, it was recognized by ubuntu but when i switched to kde it stopped working
[11:22] <sungam> galathalion, yes
[11:22] <galathalion> sungam: ok thanx
[11:23] <sungam> galathalion, yw
[11:23] <Frederick> can I assign another combo to use it?
[11:23] <jbruckman> nav: I'm afraid I'm not sure how to help you there, sorry. I would imagine you can probably just set your shortcuts to those "keys" using the interface.
[11:24] <nav> hmm
[11:24] <nav> worth a try, thanx
[11:24] <sungam> nav, does xev pick it up?
[11:24] <jbruckman> nav: yep.
[11:25] <Schuenemann> anybody knows how to use a usb infrared device with linux?
[11:25] <eMish_> I have a quesstion
[11:26] <eMish_> THe guys at work asked me: how do they cram everything into 1 CD in kubuntu, if fedora takes 4 disks ?
[11:26] <eMish_> How ?
[11:26] <Schuenemann> fewer programs
[11:26] <Schuenemann> suse has 5 cds, debian has over 10...
[11:26] <nav> i just tried xev, got quite a large amount spitting out
[11:27] <nav> not quite sure what to look for
[11:28] <eMish_> Schuenemann: maybe same as serial-usb ?
[11:28] <Schuenemann> huh?
[11:28] <revan> Hi, I've just installed Kubuntu off of a Live CD. I used to use Gentoo. In gentoo I had beryl emerged. I was wondering how I could get beryl in Kubuntu
[11:28] <eMish_> CONFIG_USB_IRDA
[11:29] <Schuenemann> what do you mean?
[11:29] <eMish_> Schuenemann: grep Schuenemann /boot/config*
[11:29] <eMish_> oops
[11:29] <eMish_> Schuenemann: grep CONFIG_USB_IRDA /boot/config*
[11:30] <Schuenemann> /boot/config-2.6.15-26-386:CONFIG_USB_IRDA=m
[11:30] <Schuenemann> /boot/config-2.6.15-27-386:CONFIG_USB_IRDA=m
[11:30] <notech> revan: if your sources are correct, apt-get install beryl
[11:30] <Schuenemann> what does this mean?
[11:30] <revan> ok, ty notech
[11:30] <eMish_> that means that your kernel has this driver
[11:30] <eMish_> you might need to modprobe it
[11:31] <notech> means they were configured in the kernel as loadable modules
[11:31] <Schuenemann> and what is modprobe?
[11:31] <jbruckman> revan: I just got beryl working. It's easy with Edgy. Just follow the online wiki install page
[11:31] <Schuenemann> damn I know nothing about this =] 
[11:31] <notech> modprobe loads a module
[11:31] <revan> jbruckman: where can I find the wiki install page?
[11:31] <jbruckman> revan: i'm pulling it up for you, one sec. :)
[11:31] <Schuenemann> how to modprobe it?
[11:32] <eMish_> Schuenemann: modprobe irda-usb
[11:32] <revan> jbruckman: ok, thank you :)
[11:32] <eMish_> maybe you need to supply parameters, I dunno
[11:32] <jbruckman> revan: Here, use this. Just read it carefully, and you'll be fine.
[11:32] <eMish_> try to google for irda-usb
[11:32] <jbruckman> revan: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu
[11:32] <eMish_> i don't have this device
[11:32] <eMish_> the hardware, i mean
[11:32] <Schuenemann> no output from that command
[11:32] <eMish_> that's fine
[11:33] <eMish_> when you connect this device to usb, do dmesg
[11:33] <jbruckman> revan: if you had beryl on your previous installs, you should be fine as far as the graphics card is concerned--just make sure you have the drivers installed. The guide helps you with that too
[11:33] <eMish_> and see there if it's recognized
[11:33] <notech> no output means it loaded successfully
[11:33] <jbruckman> revan: good luck!
[11:33] <revan> jbruckman: Thanks, I'll check that out :)
[11:33] <Schuenemann> some things about irda appeared
[11:33] <Schuenemann> [17211328.312000]  usbcore: registered new driver irda-usb
[11:33] <Schuenemann> [17211328.312000]  USB IrDA support registered
[11:33] <Schuenemann> [17211365.668000]  usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[11:33] <eMish_> lsmod|grep irda-usb    tells you whether the modules was successfully loaded
[11:33] <eMish_> Schuenemann: here you go
[11:34] <Schuenemann> no output again
[11:34] <eMish_> now look for new entries under /dev/usb or like
[11:34] <Frederick> folks do you know any program I can use to remap some keys?
[11:34] <Schuenemann> eMish_ can I send you a private msg?
[11:34] <eMish_> no no
[11:34] <eMish_> i have nothing to hide
[11:34] <Schuenemann> lol
[11:34] <eMish_> :~)
[11:35] <eMish_> you need to find /dev entry now
[11:35] <jbruckman> Frederick: what keys?
[11:35] <Schuenemann> a big message appeared after I typed dmesg
[11:35] <Schuenemann> new USB, then USB disconnected address 3
[11:36] <Schuenemann> same for address 4 and 5
[11:36] <eMish_> Schuenemann: man irattach + google irattach irda-usb
[11:36] <Frederick> jbruckman: I need some keys like  and 
[11:36] <dhq_> how to install xgl with all the effect
[11:36] <Frederick> to have sortcuts
[11:36] <jbruckman> Frederick: have you tried the keyboard shortcuts in the system settings?
[11:36] <Schuenemann> I'm without web access now
[11:36] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> !xgl
[11:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:36] <Schuenemann> I'll try later, do I have to type all this again?
[11:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> dhq_: just remember, xgl is highly BETA, and very very unreliable.
[11:37] <eMish_> Schuenemann: just remember all this
[11:37] <dhq_> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: thanx
[11:37] <dhq_> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: which is safe
[11:37] <jbruckman> i love my xgl with beryl + emerald themes.
[11:37] <eMish_> you need to type it piece by piece, but not all at once :-)
[11:38] <Schuenemann>  /dev/usb does not exist
[11:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i am staying away from XGL forever... XGL is a dead project, something better will fork off of it.
[11:38] <Frederick> jbruckman: yes it is not there
[11:38] <jbruckman> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: most likely, but for now, i'm having fun with it
[11:38] <jbruckman> !keyboard
[11:38] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> jbruckman: it sure is fun until about the 4th week in when all the bugs make you wanna jump off a 5 story roof
[11:39] <jbruckman> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: i actually haven't run into a single problem with it in the weeks i've been using it
[11:39] <Schuenemann> eMish_:  /dev/usb does not exist... was that supposed to happen?
[11:39] <jbruckman> Frederick: try keytouch
[11:39] <dhq_> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: so aiglx is better
[11:40] <gilt> hello everybody
[11:40] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> dhq_: the truth of it is none of the X servers overlaying openGL are better than eachother on stability. All of them are beta and have a list of bugs larger than the gentoo bible.
[11:40] <gilt> anybody..what version does kubuntu have for video 4 linux
[11:41] <gilt> is it framework 1 or 2
[11:41] <hans> gilt: vlc?
[11:41] <gilt> <hans yes
[11:41] <gilt> is it v4l version 1 or 2
[11:43] <hans> not sure Version: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 is installed here
[11:43] <Frederick> jbruckman: I need it to a pc not lappy
[11:44] <Schuenemann> eMish_: oh please, you're the first person in ages that knows something about it... :p
[11:44] <hans> gilt: seems to have plugins for v4l 1 and 2
[11:45] <gilt> <hans my dmesg shows Linux video capture interface: v1.00
[11:45] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[11:45] <gilt> what does this mean is it v4l2 or v4l
[11:46] <hans> gilt: I would guess 2!
[11:46] <hans> else why bother with version 2 plugins
[11:46] <hans> but I am just guessing
[11:47] <ErikTheRed> anyone know of a good linux alternative to teamspeak or ventrilo?
[11:47] <ErikTheRed> the linux teamspeak client is such a piece of garbage
[11:47] <hans> gtg
[11:47] <gilt> <hans are u certain because i saw someone else dmes and they had Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[11:47] <ErikTheRed> i can get it to work, but i can't get sound from anything else to work while it's open
[11:47] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[11:50] <revan> hi again
[11:50] <revan> I got beryl to install, but I can't run it unfortunately
[11:50] <revan> ~# beryl
[11:50] <revan> xvinfo:  Unable to open display
[11:50] <revan> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
[11:50] <revan> xdpyinfo:  unable to open display "".
[11:50] <revan> Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
[11:50] <revan> beryl: Couldn't open display
[11:50] <Frederick> fokks I really couldnt manage to add hotkeys for 
[11:51] <revan> ack! sorry for all the lines :(
[11:51] <Frederick> and  can anyone help me please?
[11:51] <cntb> can left alt be both for alt-tab "walk through windows " and ISO_next_group as keyboard language changer ?
[11:51] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[11:52] <Schuenemann> !tty
[11:52] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[11:52] <Schuenemann> what is tty?
[11:53] <max_> terminals
[11:56] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[11:59] <grunge> ciaooooo
[12:00] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[12:01] <Schuenemann> !pts
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <weedar> I'm having trouble turning of tap-to-click on my touchpad, does anyone have a sure way of fixing this?
[12:06] <Schuenemann> new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7 --- anyone can tell me what does this mean?
[12:09] <Hawkwind> nightrid3r: Please turn off the away announcer script
[12:11] <chris__> hello
[12:11] <chris__> how i can see my windows partitions?