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| lemao | got an Edgy Eft installation issue. Is this the right place to ask? | 01:12 |
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| mark | it is | 01:13 |
| lemao | Trying to install Edgy Eft Server in MacBookPro Parallels VM but I am getting the following when booting for the first time after the install: "Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP" | 01:24 |
| lemao | Then I found this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/71594 | 01:24 |
| lemao | Now I am stuck trying to replace the kernel from my install to a kernel that was not compiled with HIGHMEM64G support | 01:24 |
| lemao | so I booted from the install cd again and enter the "rescue" mode | 01:25 |
| lemao | got shell access | 01:25 |
| lemao | found many kernel images using apt-cache search linux-image, but dont know which one to use. Tried one that is recommended here: http://forum.parallels.com/post25984-2.html without success | 01:26 |
| lemao | Any ideas? | 01:26 |
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| lemao | ok. thanks | 01:47 |
| cjwatson | lemao: you probably want linux-image-generic | 04:35 |
| cjwatson | (or linux-generic, for all the bits including restricted firmware/drivers) | 04:35 |
| cjwatson | that forum post recommends -686, which is gone in edgy, replaced by -generic | 04:36 |
| cjwatson | I've shoved that bug over to the right place | 04:36 |
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| jerom1 | Hi all | 10:35 |
| jerom1 | I use kickstart and i want define two kickstart %post section : %post --nochroot ... and %post (with chroot) | 10:36 |
| jerom1 | but it seems second doesn't work, can you confirm ? | 10:37 |
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| allmanj | hi all - i was on yesterday looking for help customising debian-installer. Specifically, finding a way to stop it from scanning a mirror | 11:17 |
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| allmanj | bbias | 11:42 |
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| cjwatson | jerom1: you only get one, I'm afraid, but that's OK because you can do 'chroot /target foo' in the --nochroot one | 02:23 |
| cjwatson | hmm, actually, more than one *should* work | 02:23 |
| cjwatson | order of execution is not defined at the moment, though | 02:24 |
| cjwatson | if you make them independent of what order they're executed in, then that should be enough; otherwise I'd like a bug report on kickseed | 02:25 |
| allmanj | cjwatson: i see you're alive. do you have time to give me a hand with my problem? | 02:25 |
| cjwatson | allmanj: hi. any particular mirror, or all network mirrors, or what? | 02:25 |
| cjwatson | and do you want to replace it with a different mirror? | 02:25 |
| allmanj | i want to disable scanning of all mirrors. the idea is that the modified cd could run on a machine without network connectivity (or with limited connectivity) | 02:25 |
| allmanj | the install should be doable from the cd | 02:26 |
| allmanj | i find mention of respecting base_installable when i'm trawling through the code but i'm really at a loss as to how to take advantage of it | 02:26 |
| cjwatson | allmanj: preseeding apt-setup/use_mirror to false should disable the normal mirrors | 02:26 |
| cjwatson | base_installable isn't what you want | 02:27 |
| allmanj | *gasp* | 02:27 |
| allmanj | there's an apt-setup/use_mirror option? i didn't spot that! | 02:27 |
| cjwatson | to disable the security mirrors as well, preseed apt-setup/security_host to the empty string | 02:27 |
| allmanj | one sec while i test... | 02:27 |
| cjwatson | I think that should be everything | 02:27 |
| allmanj | i'll find out in a moment. regenerated an iso and attempting to install it on a vmware machine | 02:29 |
| cjwatson | as sadly usual, this is probably only "documented" in the source ... | 02:30 |
| allmanj | :( i've tried various techniques to work out preseed options from the source but apparently they're not complete as they didn't yield that one! | 02:31 |
| cjwatson | feel free to file a bug on installation-guide about the lack of documentation of apt-setup/use_mirror. apt-setup/security_host is documented though | 02:31 |
| cjwatson | look at .templates files | 02:31 |
| allmanj | i spotted that one - have that option set already | 02:31 |
| cjwatson | then cross-reference with the source that db_get's them to find out what they do, if the .templates file doesn't say | 02:32 |
| cjwatson | (if it doesn't, it usually should) | 02:32 |
| allmanj | cheers | 02:32 |
| allmanj | hopefully i wont need to play with it too much more | 02:32 |
| allmanj | btw - is there an easy way to change the defaults? For example, i want to prompt for the hostname but want a default other than "ubuntu" | 02:32 |
| allmanj | it's installing the base system now, hopefully in a moment i'll see it skipping the scanning of the mirror... | 02:33 |
| cjwatson | allmanj: preseed as normal, then 'd-i question/name seen false' in the preseed file | 02:34 |
| cjwatson | (after preseeding the value of the question) | 02:35 |
| cjwatson | (or if you want to do that for all questions, there's a giant preseed/interactive override - I really just added that for kickstart, though) | 02:36 |
| allmanj | crud. it's still "Scanning the mirror..." :( | 02:36 |
| cjwatson | you'll still see that, but it should only be brief? | 02:38 |
| allmanj | nope:( it's sticking there | 02:38 |
| cjwatson | oh, when I said that base_installable wasn't what you want, it does need to exist in .disk on the CD | 02:38 |
| allmanj | going through my preseed now | 02:38 |
| cjwatson | i.e. apt-setup/use_mirror=false is only functional if /cdrom/.disk/base_installable exists | 02:38 |
| allmanj | it does (it's there by default, right?) | 02:38 |
| cjwatson | yes, should be, but it's easy to leave .disk out by accident so I thought I'd check | 02:38 |
| allmanj | it's me being stupid | 02:39 |
| allmanj | forgot to put in boolean | 02:39 |
| cjwatson | may be worth booting with DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 and punting the enormous syslog in my direction, if you can't figure it out | 02:39 |
| cjwatson | oh, right, cool | 02:39 |
| cjwatson | I dunno, half the time I wonder why we bother with having the type in the preseed file format | 02:40 |
| cjwatson | but it's probably too hard to change now | 02:40 |
| cjwatson | and I think it does matter to debconf a bit more than to cdebconf (which basically doesn't care) | 02:40 |
| allmanj | do you know what package is responsible for setting the hostname? trying to work out what the preseed option i'm looking for is | 02:42 |
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| cjwatson | allmanj: netcfg | 02:59 |
| cjwatson | that one should be documented in the installation-guide ... | 02:59 |
| allmanj | yep - spotted it. netcfg/get_hostname | 02:59 |
| cjwatson | right | 02:59 |
| allmanj | thanks. btw - i'm not sure i've come accross the full installation guide. can you send me a link? | 03:00 |
| cjwatson | it's in the installation-guide-$arch package, e.g. installation-guide-i386 | 03:01 |
| cjwatson | the versions on the web are rather out of date at present, I think | 03:01 |
| cjwatson | you'll probably find the appendix on preseeding useful | 03:01 |
| allmanj | https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html ? | 03:02 |
| allmanj | it's still scanning the mirror:( | 03:02 |
| cjwatson | aha, yes, that would do it | 03:02 |
| cjwatson | 13:39 < cjwatson> may be worth booting with DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 and punting the enormous syslog in my direction, if you can't figure it out | 03:02 |
| cjwatson | that applies, then | 03:02 |
| allmanj | cool - thanks. | 03:03 |
| cjwatson | thanks for that link :) I didn't know they'd done that at last | 03:03 |
| allmanj | pasting my preseed options in. maybe you could eyeball them? i'll send you a link in a mo (whenever pastebin wakes up) | 03:04 |
| allmanj | d-i apt-setup/use_mirror boolean false is right, right (sanity check) | 03:06 |
| cjwatson | sure | 03:06 |
| cjwatson | (to both) | 03:06 |
| allmanj | pastebin is crawling for me. know of another handy way to paste up stuff? | 03:06 |
| cjwatson | paste.ubuntu-nl.org? | 03:07 |
| cjwatson | there are a bunch of pastebins - I usually just google for pastebin and don't bother remembering a URL | 03:07 |
| allmanj | cheers: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35914/ | 03:07 |
| allmanj | most of those options probably aren't needed. i've been playing around a lot | 03:08 |
| allmanj | will attempt the debug now... | 03:08 |
| cjwatson | is this dapper or edgy? | 03:09 |
| allmanj | dapper | 03:09 |
| cjwatson | apt-setup/hostname doesn't exist | 03:09 |
| cjwatson | anna-install apt-cdrom-setup is definitely weird - that should be done automatically by cdrom-detect | 03:09 |
| allmanj | as in, it's unused? fair enough - shouldn't cause any problems though | 03:09 |
| allmanj | yeah - i was trying some weird things. my logic was that if apt-cdrom-setup provides apt-mirror maybe i can stop apt-mirror from being installed | 03:10 |
| allmanj | or would any of those options cause the problem? | 03:10 |
| cjwatson | base-config is dead - remove all that. tzconfig/gmt becomes 'd-i clock-setup/utc boolean true' | 03:10 |
| cjwatson | use 'd-i apt-setup/...' rather than 'base-config apt-setup/...' (saves the options hanging around post-reboot, but won't cause this problem) | 03:11 |
| cjwatson | apt-setup/another doesn't exist any more | 03:11 |
| cjwatson | prebaseconfig becomes finish-install | 03:11 |
| cjwatson | anyway, this is just linting - I don't think any of this causes your problem | 03:11 |
| allmanj | in dapper? i'm not seeing finish-install in the packages on the cd... | 03:12 |
| cjwatson | oh, you're right, that wasn't renamed until edgy | 03:12 |
| cjwatson | not really relevant to this conversation, but folks here may be interested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment | 03:13 |
| cjwatson | it's a fairly quick run-through, but I'd be interested in where it needs to be fleshed out, as I don't have the necessary perspective | 03:13 |
| allmanj | rebooting now with debug set to 5... | 03:14 |
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| allmanj | k - worked out i can use nc with the install system. will get syslog once it gets as far as scanning | 03:20 |
| allmanj | spotted this in the syslog at this point: | 03:21 |
| allmanj | Dec 8 05:51:09 debconf: --> SET apt-setup/use_mirror falseDec 8 05:51:09 debconf: <-- 10 apt-setup/use_mirror doesn't exist | 03:21 |
| allmanj | bit messy - but you see what i mean... | 03:21 |
| allmanj | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35923/ is the syslog | 03:27 |
| allmanj | it's a little on the crazy big side though... | 03:27 |
| cjwatson | that's ok, it doesn't exist when the preseeds are being processed because that's done before apt-setup is retrieved | 03:35 |
| cjwatson | hmm. what the ... oh, *dapper*. | 03:38 |
| cjwatson | crap. it's doable in edgt. | 03:39 |
| cjwatson | edgy. | 03:39 |
| allmanj | apt-setup-mirror does seem to have some references to use_mirror | 03:39 |
| cjwatson | not in dapper, at least in the source I have | 03:39 |
| cjwatson | which is probably canonical since I uploaded it :) | 03:40 |
| allmanj | it's definitely in apt-mirror-setup.templates from the initrd i extracted from the cd? | 03:40 |
| cjwatson | apt-mirror-setup isn't in the initrd, so that's doubleplusweird | 03:41 |
| cjwatson | from what URL did you download this CD? | 03:41 |
| allmanj | d'oh - ignore me | 03:42 |
| allmanj | i is stupid | 03:42 |
| allmanj | i'm not looking at the initrd | 03:42 |
| allmanj | i'm looking at the debian-installer source | 03:42 |
| allmanj | d'oh | 03:42 |
| cjwatson | oh, that would probably be much more current than what you have then | 03:42 |
| cjwatson | especially if you're e.g. looking at the upstream d-i source | 03:42 |
| allmanj | i was. looked at the apt-setup source for dapper and you're right, it's not there | 03:43 |
| allmanj | ideas? | 03:43 |
| cjwatson | I can think of one horrible, horrible kludge | 03:43 |
| allmanj | i'm listening... | 03:43 |
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| cjwatson | in a preseed/early_command, write out /usr/lib/base-installer.d/01apt-setup-kludge (remember to make it executable) that does 'rm -f /usr/lib/apt-setup/generators/50mirror.ubuntu' | 03:44 |
| cjwatson | you can't just remove it directly in early_command because that's run before apt-setup is retrieved | 03:44 |
| cjwatson | but a base-installer hook (or post-base-installer) will do | 03:44 |
| allmanj | this is a smart kludge! | 03:44 |
| allmanj | one moment | 03:44 |
| cjwatson | oh, you may have to mkdir /usr/lib/base-installer.d first | 03:44 |
| cjwatson | You can do basically anything with preseeding. The only question is how hard it's going to be. :) | 03:45 |
| jerom1 | My chroot in post nochroot work fine, thanks. But now when i restart, i have errors : | 03:45 |
| jerom1 | unable to mount root device | 03:45 |
| jerom1 | kern panic | 03:45 |
| jerom1 | unknown block device 0,0 | 03:45 |
| cjwatson | (and how much of the installer internals you need to know in order to get it done) | 03:45 |
| cjwatson | jerom1: looks like it can't find the initramfs | 03:46 |
| cjwatson | check out bootloader configuration and make sure it matches what's on the disk | 03:46 |
| jerom1 | thanks, ok i look now | 03:47 |
| allmanj | cjwatson: testing kludge... | 03:48 |
| allmanj | d-i preseed/early_command string mkdir -p /usr/lib/base-installer.d; echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nrm -f /usr/lib/apt-setup/generators/50mirror.ubuntu' > /usr/lib/base-installer.d/01apt-setup-kludge; chmod a+rx /usr/lib/base-installer.d/01apt-setup-kludge | 03:48 |
| cjwatson | echo -e probably won't work in busybox; that's a bashism | 03:50 |
| cjwatson | oh, no, it does work | 03:50 |
| allmanj | grooviness | 03:51 |
| cjwatson | I'd have done (echo '#! /bin/sh'; echo 'rm -f /usr/lib/apt-setup/generators/50mirror.ubuntu') > ... but whatever | 03:51 |
| jerom1 | cjwatson : it seems grub is correct | 03:51 |
| allmanj | would the redirect catch output from both commands? silly q. also - i beleive mines a little shorter and neater :p | 03:52 |
| cjwatson | jerom1: I'm afraid it's going to be very hard to work this out remotely; this is something you'll probably have to debug yourself | 03:52 |
| cjwatson | allmanj: yes, it would given the parentheses | 03:52 |
| cjwatson | I just habitually avoid non-POSIX sh, that's all :) | 03:53 |
| cjwatson | but no matter | 03:53 |
| allmanj | kludge script appears to have been created correctly | 03:53 |
| cjwatson | jerom1: might be worth doing zcat /boot/initrd.img-whatever | cpio -itto make sure it's a correct initramfs | 03:53 |
| cjwatson | er, ... | cpio -it | 03:53 |
| allmanj | and it appears to have removed the 50mirror.ubuntu script! | 03:54 |
| jerom1 | cjwatson, oki i test now great thanks | 03:54 |
| allmanj | it worked! score! | 03:58 |
| allmanj | that has been bugging me for days! | 03:58 |
| allmanj | this doesn't seem to work: d-i netcfg/get_hostname string console | 04:03 |
| allmanj | d-i netcfg/get_hostname seen false | 04:03 |
| allmanj | i'm sure it's something stupid... | 04:03 |
| allmanj | i have the priority set to critical if that's relevant | 04:07 |
| cjwatson | it is - the hostname question's only asked at high | 04:09 |
| cjwatson | one of the things you can't really do with preseeding yet is modify the priority at which a question gets asked - that's entirely programmatic | 04:09 |
| cjwatson | I'd probably be inclined to drop back to the default priority (high) and preseed anything extra that gets asked as a result | 04:10 |
| allmanj | sounds sensible - thanks | 04:16 |
| allmanj | if i wanted to create a second, unprivileged user, would late_command be the way forward? | 04:45 |
| cjwatson | yeah | 05:07 |
| cjwatson | chroot /target adduser ... | 05:08 |
| allmanj | groovy. i think i'm fairly happy that i've got the system i wanted. Thanks a million for your hellp - i'd be still scratching my head and frowning a lot without it | 05:10 |
| allmanj | can i use preseeding for packages installed afterwards? it's prompting me for X things... | 05:11 |
| cjwatson | no worries. yes, you can, just make sure the owner is the package and not 'd-i' | 05:13 |
| cjwatson | should be an example of doing that in the guide, I think ... | 05:14 |
| allmanj | excellent - thanks | 05:14 |
| allmanj | i'll make sure i've double checked the guide in future | 05:17 |
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