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shwagwhat kernel does  dapper server  install by default ?12:36
BenCthe -server kernel12:37
shwagwhat is the difference between  linux-image-686  and  linux-686-smp  ?  they both actually appear to be SMP12:37
joefso23jhwith and wihtout preempt?12:43
JanC-smp is a meta-package 12:43
joefso23jhI pulled 2.6.19 from git today12:44
joefso23jhand I got: http://pastebin.ca/27090312:45
JanCto make sure those who had an smp kernel in previous versions of Ubuntu didn't get stuck with an old useless kernel after an upgrade12:45
joefso23jh(while building the same config from 2.6.19 feitsy)12:45
joefso23jhs/the/with the/g12:45
JanCshwag: almost all kernels are smp-ready since dapper 12:47
kylemjoefso23jh, so?12:47
joefso23jhis there any fix?12:48
shwagYah it looks like, linux-686-smp   is preemt ... while  linux-image-server   is not preemt.12:48
kylemit's in git. not uploaded.12:48
joefso23jhso it's known?12:48
kylemwhy don't you go get the source from feisty.12:48
joefso23jhcause packages.ubuntu doesn't seem to be uptodate12:48
shwaguhh...how do I safely remove  linux-686-smp from my system ?12:49
joefso23jhapt-get remove --purge ?12:50
shwagjoefso23jh: will that put grub back properly ?12:52
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gnomefreaki use synaptic its much neater for kernel removal i have found12:59
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qhartmanIntel has released a security advisory about a buffer overflow in their e100/e1000 nic drivers at http://support.intel.com/support/network/sb/CS-023726.htm01:01
qhartmanthis seems to affect Ubuntu, given the versions they mention.01:02
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shwagso I installed a kernel image and now I regret it. How do I put grub back to the old kernel ?01:14
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shwagcommon team...that should be an easy question.01:24
shwag<soundray> shwag: you can select a kernel for the next boot with grub-reboot (check man grub-reboot).01:28
shwag<soundray> shwag: reboot and select the older kernel to boot. Then remove the new kernel with 'sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-kernel-(version of the new one)'. The grub entry will be removed automagically01:28
JanCshwag: this is not a support channel...01:28
shwagmy bad01:28
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JanCand tehre is no kernel in the -smp package01:29
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BenCParavirtualization support (EXPERIMENTAL) (PARAVIRT) [N/y/?]  (NEW)04:53
BenCyummy04:53
BenC  10. Core 2/newer Xeon (MCORE2) (NEW)04:58
BenChmm...wonder if it's worth it to do a Core2 kernel04:58
mjg59Doubt it05:04
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bronsonBenC: building with dpkg-buildpackage did indeed get rid of the -rel- like you said.05:25
bronsonBut now it has the identical name to Ubuntu's package.05:26
bronsonIs there any easy way to insert my version in the package name?05:27
bronsonSomething like EXTRAVERSION = .14-ubuntu1-vs2.0.2.105:27
bronson...  actually, I think I know the answer.  I need to add a changelog entry?05:28
bronsonIs there any way with dpkg-buildpackage to only build 386?  These 5 hour compile cycles are killing me!05:30
BenCbronson: rm configs you don't want from debian/config/i38605:51
bronsonBenC: thanks.05:51
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Game_EnderIs this the proper channel to discuss compiling a kernel module from upstream?07:00
Game_EnderI am looking at the Attansic L1 Ethernet driver07:01
lifelessyes, I think so07:02
Game_EnderCan someone point me the right direction of what I would do with patch set once I get it?07:04
Game_EnderThe driver is being worked on as a patch for 2.6.1907:05
Game_EnderSo I could remove my current kernel module (compiled from the source on my motherboard CD)07:05
Game_Enderthen try to apply the patch to ubuntu kernel module07:06
Game_EnderI would then have to configure the entire kernel to build that one module correct?07:06
Game_Enderwell its off to sleep07:12
Game_EnderI should probably try when its not 11PM - 1AM in the US07:12
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joefso  CC [M]   ubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.o07:35
joefsoubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102:59: error: macro "INIT_WORK" passed 3 arguments, but takes just 207:35
joefsoubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c: In function 'bbr_alloc_private':07:35
joefsoubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102: error: 'INIT_WORK' undeclared (first use in this function)07:35
joefsoubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once07:35
joefsoubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102: error: for each function it appears in.)07:35
joefsomake[3] : *** [ubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.o]  Error 107:35
joefsomake[2] : *** [ubuntu/misc]  Error 207:35
joefsomake[1] : *** [ubuntu]  Error 207:35
joefsoi'm trying to compiles 2.6.19 on edgy07:35
joefsousing make oldconfig07:35
joefsohowever, it fails as we see07:35
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gebruiker2.6.19 doesn't build on edgy09:15
dade`I think it does09:22
gebruikerYOU THINK?09:23
gebruikerjeejz09:23
dade`yes I can think09:24
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gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102:59: error: macro "INIT_WORK" passed 3 arguments, but takes just 209:30
gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c: In function bbr_alloc_private:09:30
gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102: error: INIT_WORK undeclared (first use in this function)09:30
gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once09:30
gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102: error: for each function it appears in.)09:30
dade`how  do you compile it ?09:31
gebruikersudo make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --append-to-version=-1 kernel-image kernel-headers09:32
dade`is this a git kernel ?09:32
gebruikeryes09:32
dade`ok wait09:32
dade`https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild09:32
dade`read this09:32
gebruikeryes I did?09:33
dade`no you didn'y09:33
dade`t09:33
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gebruikerdude09:36
gebruikereven if the code is *not* from git09:36
gebruikerthe code fails with the same error when using linux-source-2.6.19_2.6.19-7.11.tar.gz09:37
dade`well, I don't know, but compiling a git kernel with that command is wrong.09:38
gebruikerthere is no guide on compiling git kernels the proper way09:39
dade`I just gave you09:39
gebruikerkernelcostumbuild?09:40
gebruikerhave you read it?09:40
dade`yes09:40
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gebruikerwhat a bunch of crap dade` even invoke just 'make' makes the build fail10:37
dade`..10:38
gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102:59: error: macro "INIT_WORK" passed 3 arguments, but takes just 210:39
gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c: In function bbr_alloc_private:10:39
gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102: error: INIT_WORK undeclared (first use in this function)10:39
gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once10:39
gebruikerubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.c:102: error: for each function it appears in.)10:39
gebruikermake[2] : *** [ubuntu/misc/dm-bbr.o]  Fout 110:39
gebruikermake[1] : *** [ubuntu/misc]  Fout 210:39
gebruikermake: *** [ubuntu]  Fout 210:39
gebruikerBenC broke the tree ;\10:52
lifelessgebruiker: sounds like you are building against an upstream kernel, not an ubuntu one10:54
gebruikerno10:55
gebruikerit's pulled from git10:55
gebruikeraccording to the kernelGitGuide10:55
gebruikeri don't thing dm-bbr.c is in vanilla10:55
lifelessits not10:55
lifelessits part of the evms patchset10:56
dade`have you tried using 'AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs ...' on a clean git source ?10:59
gebruikerhow does one let it build it's own config without affecting the debian tree/11:05
gebruiker?11:05
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gebruikerUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs flavours=386 doesnt' even work11:16
gebruiker+a11:16
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zulBenC: ping02:58
BenCzul: yo02:59
zuli was thinking that the vmi (vmware stuff) can go straight into the generic kernel but the xen bits of paravirt would need its own flavour...of course i would have to test tis02:59
zul*this03:03
zuldamn i need more coffee03:03
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zulhey kylem 03:56
BenCyay, ubuntu-2.6 is building again03:57
zulworkqueues fixed?03:58
BenCworkqueue, freezer, crypto API's, SLAB_* crap03:58
zulcool03:59
BenC2.6.20 is a bigger leap than 2.6.19, which scares me03:59
zulheh ill break it again for you dont worry..:)03:59
BenC$ debian/rules printchanges | wc -l03:59
BenC242303:59
kylemjesus.03:59
zulouch..03:59
BenCzul: upstream is doing a fine job of it already :)03:59
dade`now git is .20 ?04:00
BenCdade`: 2.6.20-pre04:00
BenCKeybuk: ping04:01
KeybukBenC: yo04:03
BenCKeybuk: I think I figured out the missing bit for "the plan"04:03
dade`maybee this one will sleep WITH macbook04:04
BenCKeybuk: I was wondering how all this would work when udev didn't have a "rule" for device->driver, and we wanted binding to just work...udev had no info on this04:04
dade`(wow sexy)04:04
Keybukgo on?04:04
BenCKeybuk: So what I am going to do is make the kernel send a "match" event for when it would normally bind with a device, so that udev can send that bind to the driver04:04
Keybukhow do you mean?  over the netlink socket?04:05
Keybukhow would you know udev was on the other end?04:05
BenCif auto-bind is disabled, the kernel would send an event of some kind saying "this driver and device match, do something", and whatever is on the other end would do that thing04:06
BenCKeybuk: unless I'm missing something, in the plan you have now, if udev disables auto-bind in the kernel, there's nothing that says to actually do the binding on devices that don't have a specific driver rule04:07
BenCkylem: I don't see CVE-2006-4572 listed in your dapper changelog04:09
kylemBenC, i still haven't heard back from patrick, i pinged him again last night.04:09
KeybukBenC: the plan was that there'd be a generic rule04:09
BenCkylem: So are we uploading dapper without 4572 fix?04:10
Keybukmake DRIVER= work like NAME=, so the first one sticks04:10
Keybukthen just do specific stuff early04:10
kylemBenC, yes, pitti wanted it uploaded because of a local root hole, iirc04:10
Keybukand as a final rule, just have a general ENV{MODALIAS}=="?*", DRIVER="modprobe $env{MODALIAS}"04:10
Keybuk(where modprobe is the udev builtin thing)04:10
zulso breezy is ok as well since it doesnt have CVE-2006-4572 and its already been uploaded previously04:10
KeybukBenC: the one thing I was thinking; bind and unbind override the usual device tables, yes?04:11
BenCKeybuk: Sure, that will load the driver, but I mean what will cause the bind?04:11
kylemBenC, 4572 isn't exactly what i'd call a critical hole...04:11
BenCkylem: Ok, just making sure I had everything04:11
KeybukBenC: I was thinking we just make udev always do it04:12
Keybukso as well as making /dev nodes, one of its other primary functions is to bind devices and drivers04:12
Keybukso after processing a rule, if there's any DRIVER set, it binds it04:13
BenCKeybuk: but what if there's no driver set? :)04:13
Keybukwe'd set one from the alias tables?04:13
Keybukas a default rule04:13
BenCok04:16
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zuli so much dislike rpm04:45
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joefsowhere can I get a list of patches that are applied to ubuntu kernel tree?06:24
zulgit06:24
joefsoyes git can pull them in06:24
joefsohowveer I want a _list_ of patches06:25
joefsothat are applied to the src tree06:25
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BenCjoefso: Is this ubuntu-2.6?07:32
bronsonCan anyone suggest a version number for my linux-vserver enabled kernel?  I'm basing it off kernel 2.6.17.1-10.35 and adding vserver 2.0.2.107:34
bronsonWould that be 2.6.17.1.vserver2.0.2.1-10.35?07:35
bronsonOr should I change something else?07:36
BenCbronson: I actually suggest just making a new flavour07:42
bronsonBenC: sounds good.  How do I do that?07:43
BenCbronson: Copy debian/config/i386/*.generic to *.vserver-2.0.2.107:43
BenCand edit was needed07:43
BenCthen do : debian/rules debian/control.stub07:43
bronsonAh, OK.07:43
BenCand do the normal build07:43
bronsonWould it make sense to have generic-vserver2.0.2.1, server-bigiron-vserver2.0.2.1, etc?07:44
bronsonThat would make sense to me, anyway.  :)  I'll try it.07:45
bronsonBenC: I also need to change the files in debian/abi/2.6.17-10.34/i386 right?08:44
BenCno08:44
BenCignore those08:44
BenCbronson: Edit debian/rules and set skipabi=true08:45
bronsonah, ok.  Will do.08:45
bronsonI notice that the kernel is .34 but the abi is still .33 in the 2.6.17 git tree.08:45
BenC.33 is not the ABI08:47
BenCthe ABI is 1008:47
BenC.33 and .34, those are the release revs08:47
BenCit increments everytime we do an upload...the 10 is only incremented when the ABI changes08:48
bronsonI mean, the directory is named debian/abi/2.6.17-10.3308:48
BenCright, we keep the previous abi's to compare with the current build08:49
bronsoncool.08:49
BenCcurrent ABI's are only known after the build, so we can't very well keep those in the upload08:49
bronson:)  got it.08:49
bronsonthanks.08:49
bronsonBenC: skipabi was true because I'm using AUTOBUILD=1.08:56
bronsonI think there's a missing skipabi check at line 238?08:56
bronsonThat exit 1 always fires regardless of the value of skipabi.08:57
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bronsonYes, adding '-a "$(skipabi)" != "true"' to debian/rules line 238 appears to work.09:04
joefsoBenc Yes.09:16
BenCjoefso: debian/rules diffupstream > ubuntu.diff09:17
joefsoBenC, however i want to apply -rt but acpi problems09:17
bronsonBenC: I just thought of something.  My packages are built from a different source tree than the ubuntu kernel.  But if I only change the flavor, then my packages will claim to be built from the regular Ubuntu kernel source.09:17
bronsonI need to change the package name too?09:18
joefsoBenC, would it beneift community if we would package -ck kernels ontop of the -generic patched kernels?09:18
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BenCjoefso: No09:18
joefsoor s/lowlatency/ck09:18
joefsoBenC, could you eleborate a bit?09:18
BenClowlatency is just a config option change09:18
joefsoi noticed hz change09:18
BenCI'm adding any any very obtrusive patches to our tree09:18
joefsobut wha'ts the reason that -ck tree wouldn't benefit community?09:18
BenCit wont benefit our users09:19
BenC1) Creating too many kernel package options confuses users09:19
bronsonjoefso: what -ck feature do you want?09:19
BenC2) Adding huge patches to our tree makes it hard to maintain09:19
joefsowell 1) we already have lowlatency in feitsy 2) ck isn't that dificult to main, most of the time it applies clieanly ontop of the git tree 09:20
BenCjoefso: You are more than welcome to provide such kernel packages yourself though09:20
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BenCjoefso: You've no idea what it takes to maintain the kernel once you've added patches that modify stock kernel code09:21
BenCsecurity, updates, changes from upstream, all these things break it09:21
BenCI just spent the past two days getting our ubuntu/* drivers to build under 2.6.20-pre git09:21
BenCthat's easy because it didn't touch stock kernel code09:22
joefsowell, most of the time con just takes vanilla and then inclues latest stable into his patchset. However just applying them from broken-out is not much work until now, atleast those a re my experiences. And I have used it for quite some time now. The only thing I havn't really done is benchmark them to ubuntu kernels.09:22
joefsowell perhaps I should take it for testing through ubuntuforums?09:23
joefsoand see where it gets me09:23
joefsoand how the community reacts09:23
BenCjoefso: What is in -ck that would be so beneficial?09:23
joefsomm-*prio09:24
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joefso*-ionice09:24
BenCwhy are those patches not in mainline kernel?09:24
BenCthat's not really a question, it's more of a statement09:25
joefsoyes I noticed09:25
BenCthey aren't in there because they aren't stable yet09:25
joefsodid you ever had time to take a look at it?09:25
BenCgive me a URL?09:26
joefsoand I remember some time where andrew morton would put ck code into -mm09:26
joefsohttp://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/09:26
BenC-mm isn't a stable tree by any means :)09:27
BenCeh, it already gets a big NO09:27
BenClatest is against .18, and we are doing .20pre09:27
joefsotake a look at the patches dir09:27
joefsoperhaps i(havn't looked yet) there are patches for .20pre in testing patches09:28
BenCeven .19 is not good enough09:28
joefsoand if it's worth con kolivas could even provide it, if we would just ask, or else fix up the broken diffs our selves. Form the point I have seen it all he does until now is keepon syncing code with current stable.09:29
BenCjoefso: 33 changes files, and 125k diff09:30
BenCthat's more than our current delta against the mainline kernel09:30
BenCby almost double09:30
bronsonBenC: Instead of creating different flavors, I need to create packages with an entirely different base name?  Does that sound right or am I missing something?09:30
BenCbronson: Why?09:30
bronsonBecause if I only change the flavor, my package will still claim to be built from Ubuntu's source package.09:31
bronsonIt's not though...  I've applied the linux-vserver patch.09:31
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BenCit will be linux-image-2.6.17-10-vserver package name though09:32
bronsonBut it still claims to be built from linux-source-2.6.17-10 right?09:32
BenCif you want that much differentiation from our source, I can't help you...way too much involved09:32
bronsonWell, the source issues are solved.  It's the packaging issues that are stumping me.  :)09:33
BenCyou're getting into common packaging questions that are probably best solved in #ubuntu09:36
bronsonAm I?  Not many people there have dealt with control.stub...09:37
bronsonOr kernel flavors.09:37
BenCbut you want to change the source package09:38
BenCwhich actually is as simple as editing the changelog09:38
bronsonOr building with -sa.09:39
bronsonI guess you're right -- it's not a problem.  I must have screwed up reprepro somehow.09:42
bronsonMy package's source package: linux-source-2.6.17_2.6.17.1-10.34.vserver2.0.2.1.tar.gz  :)09:43
bronsonI don't think there's quite enough version numbers in there...  maybe I could add grsecurity.09:43
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low_hi10:31
bronsonhi low10:32
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joefso23hello10:43
joefso23I'm unable to use "!" when invoking dialog --yesno "tekst" 5 8010:44
kylemand?10:44
joefso23when i add a ! to the "tekst" I get: rror: Expected no more than 3 tokens for --yesno, have 510:45
kylemhow is this a kernel problem.10:45
joefso23damn wrong channel10:45
joefso23excuse me10:45
kylemps: add a \10:45
joefso23no won't do, but anyway excuse me10:46
kylemworks in zsh. ;-) try single quotes instead of double in bash.10:47
bronsonBenC: When I run debian/rules debian/control.stub, a bunch of packages get "-ref" added to their names.10:59
bronsonIs there an easy way to make -ref not appear?10:59
BenCbronson: no11:00
bronsonSo just live with it?  :)11:00
bronsonOK.11:00
BenCyou're trying to do stuff that the build system there wasn't designed to do11:00
BenCyou're sort of on your own :)11:00
bronsonTrue.  I can live with that.  Hope you don't mind if I ask you easy questions though.11:01
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BenCjoefso23: I wrote this up real quick, since your question about including patches comes up quite often11:07
BenCjoefso23: It explains things in more detail11:07
BenChttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelPatches11:07
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bronsonBenC, can you tell me briefly where -ref comes from?11:09
BenCwhat do you mean by -ref?11:09
bronsonlinux-headers-2.6.17-10-ref11:09
BenCI don't know what -ref is11:09
bronson(from the debian/control file)11:09
BenCis that what it actually says?11:10
bronsonYes, it showed up when I ran debian/rules debian/control.stub.11:10
bronsonI'll dig deeper.11:10
BenCif you actually see "-ref" then you likely buggered something to make it do that11:10
BenChead -1 debian/changelog11:10
BenClet me see that11:10
bronsonThe full line is "Package: linux-headers-2.6.17-10-ref"11:11
bronsonnot all names have -ref, just some.11:11
bronsonhere you go: linux-source-2.6.17 (2.6.17.1-10.34.vserver2.0.2.1) edgy; urgency=low11:11
bronsonNo, it didn't show up when I ran debian/rules debian/control.stub .  That went OK.11:14
bronsonI'll dig into this further before asking more.  And start with a fresh git tree.11:15
BenCthat's the problem11:17
BenCdo not add the .vserver2.0.2.1 in the versioning11:17
bronsonAh, good.11:19
bronsonIs there a place I can maintain a rev number?  I don't expect to get this package right the first time.  :)11:19
bronsonOr do I just need to bump the .34 to .35 and diverge from your upstream package?11:20
BenCthat's the idea11:21
bronsonOK, will do.11:21
bronsonThanks.11:21
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cassidyguys, i'll pay you a beer at next FOSDEM or GUADEC if you package the fix for this bug ASAP https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418  :)12:10
cassidyi just received my new laptop and it's very frustrating to not be able to use it ;)12:11
BenCcassidy: is this the ipw3945 softlockup when rfkill is on?12:16

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