[12:15] <smaggard> how come kubuntu doesnt have the new firefox 2.0 in package manager yet?
[12:15] <smaggard> still 1.5.0.5
[12:16] <smaggard> i fetched updates too...
[12:16] <Schuenemann> I believe edgy does
[12:16] <billytwowilly> because it's in edgy...
[12:16] <billytwowilly> update to new kubuntu...
[12:16] <Schuenemann> I installed it in dapper, though
[12:16] <smaggard> so u mean a new kubuntu comes out and they stop updating packages for the old one?
[12:17] <smaggard> dinners ready bbl
[12:17] <billytwowilly> afaik they never updated the packages in old kubuntu at all.  Just security updates.
[12:17] <smaggard> hmmm
[12:17] <billytwowilly> you must hav a backports repository to get backports
[12:17] <smaggard> so i guess everybody updates
[12:17] <billytwowilly> and those aren't supported by canonical, which probably won't matter to you that much.
[12:18] <billytwowilly> well, if you don't want to update see if it is in backports
[12:18] <Schuenemann> smaggard: I followed a step-by-step tutorial on how to install fx 2, but I can't access web now to find it again
[12:21] <Goofy_OS2> hiho/2
[12:24] <Goofy_OS2> I have Kubuntu v6.10_x64 installed. After a shutdown it will not boot completly. I get message on the screen like: /etc/rcS.d/S20checkroot.sh: 407: readlink: Permissions denied and more lines like Cannot initilaize /etc/mtab or Unable to execute /bin/sh for rc.default... Any idea how to fix?
[12:26] <RoKFiT> I need an ftp applicatoin
[12:26] <RoKFiT> application
[12:26] <cntb> setxkbmap -option grp:lswitch,grp:lalt_toggle,caps:shift_lock,grp_led:scroll,numpad:microsoft,grp:alt_shift_toggle
[12:27] <cntb> cntb> alt+shift  wont change language
[12:28] <aleksanteri> hey has anyone got a link to a page which has the konsole commands?
[12:28] <cox377> can anyone recommend a way to speed up kubuntu???
[12:29] <pablo7> cos377: don't run kde.
[12:30] <cox377> pablo7: Ummm what do u mean? any recommendations?
[12:31] <Goofy_OS2> I have Kubuntu v6.10_x64 installed. After a shutdown it will not boot completly. I get message on the screen like: /etc/rcS.d/S20checkroot.sh: 407: readlink: Permissions denied and more lines like Cannot initilaize /etc/mtab and Unable to execute /bin/sh for rc.default... Any idea how to fix?
[12:31] <UncleDrug> pablo7:  close IRC
[12:31] <cox377> UncleDrug: how come?
[12:32] <UncleDrug> cox377: sarcasm
[12:32] <cox377> UncleDrug: kk
[12:34] <word> how do you re do the mbr for grub after winders overwrites it?
[12:35] <MenZa> !grub
[12:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:37] <pablo7> cox377: you could try another window manager (like ratpoison), maybe just use the console.
[12:38] <pablo7> UncleDrug: thanks for the advice.
[12:43] <Schalken> How would one go about changing a 60GB reiserfs partition to ext3 without loosing it's data?
[12:49] <aleksanteri> yeah has anyone got a page to konsole commands?
[12:49] <doppelganger_> hey guys, i'm trying to install vmware-workstation now after having used the free vmware player for a while
[12:50] <doppelganger_> it says it won't install because there is another vmware installed
[12:50] <doppelganger_> but i've gone through adept and removed all packages
 a very good question but a very small answer to that try!!!:)
[12:50] <LordOliver> anyone here work with 56k modem compatibility
[12:50] <LordOliver> ?
[12:51] <Schalken> gilt: that would mean just format it which will erase the data :O
 Just transfer the data to another harddisk and format to reisure filesystem
[12:52] <Schalken> gilt: i dont have another disk :(
[12:52] <gilt> copy to dvd
[12:53] <IronM> Hi Kano
[12:53] <IronM> good evening
[12:53] <Schalken> 60gb/4gb=15 dvds!
[12:53] <LordOliver> Schalken: I assume you are backing up windows data, yes?
[12:54] <gilt> no other option because some much data but there is no solution other than this in your situation
[12:54] <LordOliver> or data that is accessed via a Win* OS
[12:54] <Schalken> LordOliver: no...its my linux home partition.
[12:54] <LordOliver> that sucks
[12:54] <LordOliver> I am recovoring from a format myself
[12:55] <gilt> <lordoliver what modem you were talking about
[12:56] <Schalken> actually...if i delete my windows partition and my root partition, i will have enough room to copy the reiserfs partition, format the original to ext3, and copy the data over...
[12:56] <Schalken> but then i have to reinstall widows which is a pain in the ass :(
[12:56] <drack> hola
[12:56] <LordOliver> gilt: well, it seems from what I have read a linmodem is non existant for my architecture (or at least elusive, highly) I am looking at maybe a US ROBOTICS usb modem and I was just wondering if it would be compatible without alot of work
[12:57] <drack> algun latino
[12:58] <gilt> wait a moment let me check
[12:58] <LordOliver> gilt: ok
[12:58] <drack> hola
[12:59] <gilt> <loroliver is it conexant based chip
[12:59] <drack> yap alo
[12:59] <LordOliver> gilt: that ain't good
[01:00] <gilt> <you mean u have tried the linuxant driver
[01:00] <LordOliver> oh well, I guess I can use my old dell as a modem network server and connect it to my lappy via wireless
[01:00] <LordOliver> gilt: yes
[01:01] <gilt> <there r two versions of the linuxant driver: free versus licenced..which one u tried
[01:01] <LordOliver> free
[01:01] <gilt> free only gives 14.4k
[01:01] <gilt> licencedversion will give full speed
[01:02] <LordOliver> gilt: so I have to buy an external modem and then buy a driver to use said modem? I thought they were supposed to be pnp
[01:03] <gilt> well it is linux and you know vendors..they all go for microsoft stuff<:
[01:04] <LordOliver> that blows
[01:04] <billytwowilly> and that is why vista is the best thing for linux since sliced bread. It's poorly compatible with previous apps, so it gives a compelling reason to switch.
[01:04] <billytwowilly> More switchers = more market share = more drivers
[01:05] <ThePub> is there a way to reliably setup kwin to have all windows centered on display 1?  center doesn't seem to do it.
[01:05] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: hmmm... that'd be nice
[01:06] <malik_> hi guyz can some one tell me how to increase the time of the bubble which apears above an icon giving its description?
[01:06] <billytwowilly> malik_: doesn't it just stay if you don't move the  mouse off the icon?
[01:06] <LordOliver> billytwoworth: I believe it collapses in like 10 seconds
[01:06] <gilt> i agree  with billtwowilly
[01:06] <coreymon77> guys
[01:06] <coreymon77> i cant get a krfb thing working
[01:06] <coreymon77> he sends me the invite
[01:07] <coreymon77> i open it
[01:07] <coreymon77> and it says that there is no server operating at that host and port
[01:07] <billytwowilly> k, then I have no idea how to fix your problem malik;) And here I thought I was being all smart and stuff;)
[01:07] <RawSewage> Question:  I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  then ESC before finishing.  now it says it's locked.  how can I unlock it
[01:07] <coreymon77> i mean
[01:07] <BluesKaj> good question malik_, I've been wondering that myself ,and i'm a pretty fast reader...collapses in more like 3 secs
[01:07] <RawSewage> I already tried sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:08] <coreymon77> connection failed. no server running at the given adress and port
[01:08] <malik_> no it disappears after abt 3 or 4 second .............im specially talkin abt time clock in the task bar coz i have added few timezones n its bubble is not long enuf to let me chk out all the time zones
[01:08] <LordOliver> this is probably a #D question, but has anyhere tried/installed the D compiler?
[01:08] <gilt> hello everybody...can anbody tell me where to get video 4 linyx 2 with framework version 2.0
[01:09] <BluesKaj> or read whats playing on streamtuner thru xmms
[01:09] <billytwowilly> oooh.. one better than c;) but is it better than C++? how much awesome do the two plus signs give?
[01:09] <malik_> yeppers u r right mate.......but whats the remedy?............any idea guyz?
[01:10] <LordOliver> malik_: I just timed it 8 seconds
[01:10] <RawSewage>  /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[01:10] <RawSewage> How do I unlock it
[01:10] <billytwowilly> it collapses fast on edgy.. darn.
[01:11] <BluesKaj> I think it's in system settings/ window behavior...but I'm not sure what control it is , malik_
[01:11] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: nope, I am on edgy, 8 seconds
[01:11] <LordOliver> maybe it is processor specific
[01:11] <malik_> in my installtion its just abt 4 esc plus im slow.................:(........okie i ll have a look
[01:11] <billytwowilly> LordOliver:  are you on some weird euro version?;) I swear it is 3 seconds here. I just timed it.
[01:12] <malik_> plus how do u send me the msg in red?............sorry if it sounds too stupid but i dont know how to use things in irc?
[01:12] <moS-uu>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[01:12] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: x86_64 from the good 'ol USof A
[01:13] <cntb> ->   /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Pa5sw0rD moS-uu
[01:13] <coreymon77> malik_:  type the persons name you want it to appear red to and then a : infront of your message
[01:13] <LordOliver> or a ',' works
[01:13] <cntb> np malik
[01:13] <billytwowilly> LordOliver: i386 that's weird that it is different though. Are you using beryl or something? Mine's just the default install.. oh wait, update from breezy, so maybe that is breezy's setting..
[01:13] <cntb> malik_, np
[01:14] <malik_> thanx gyz
[01:14] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: I was going to use Beryl, but the install seems like too much work for so little reward
[01:15] <LordOliver> just like trying to NDIS wrapper in Zod
[01:15] <LordOliver> *to install
[01:15] <billytwowilly> LordOliver: it's probably a breezy setting then
[01:16] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: you ever try making Beryl work?
[01:18] <BluesKaj> it's a bitch with ATI cards , LordOliver ...ben trying all day off and on but I keep getting the message that XGL isn't found ..
[01:18] <ThePub> LordOliver: none of the composite servers are worth the time, unless you only use a desktop like a show car :)
[01:18] <ThePub> BluesKaj: I read somewhere that the ATI driver doesn't support compositing.
[01:19] <moS-uu> hm, what happend to /etc/inittab in edgy, does someone know?
[01:19] <galathalion> anyone got a sombrerohat for sale+
[01:19] <LordOliver> ThePub: I spend 90% of my time in the terminal
[01:19] <BluesKaj> well, ThePub you may be right but in the wkis there are some who claim it works
[01:20] <LordOliver> BluesKaj: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M :(
[01:20] <BluesKaj> yup, LordOliver
[01:20] <LordOliver> ThePub: hmmm... making it look pretty is always nice :)
[01:20] <BluesKaj> managed to get direct rendering tow ork but that was it
[01:21] <ThePub> LordOliver: it can look pretty without wiggly though windows surely?
[01:21] <LordOliver> ThePub: of course, just gotta watch out of themes that say "Best with Beryl" or crazy shit happens
[01:21] <ThePub> er.. swap that "though" and "windows", then add a comma after them.
[01:22] <LordOliver> ThePub: I got it... I normally hang out at ##C so I have seem some horrible 3 graderish typing
[01:23] <LordOliver> though I would like it to look like Mac OSX
[01:23] <ThePub> LordOliver: I suppose that is a bonus, being compared to third grade writing!
[01:23] <ThePub> So buy a mac? :)
[01:23] <LordOliver> ThePub: can't stand the OS, just like how it looks :)
[01:26] <LordOliver> ThePub: I have a Mac anyhow
[01:27] <sdlnxgk> anyone know how to set an environment variable for BROSWER????
[01:27] <BluesKaj> daughter just bought an refurb'd IMAC tiger for her graphics work
[01:27] <ThePub> LordOliver: I'm not too infatuated with the various versions of osX UI.. grew up on MacOS and the new operating system is a poor excuse for an apple creation imo.
[01:32] <LordOliver> ThePub: I am running 8.3(?) on my MAC
[01:34] <jetc> hrmm...windows effect for beryl don't work
[01:34] <jetc> :-/
[01:35] <Endler> Does anyone have kilot working properly in 6.10?  My snyc stops at 30%.  Read it was a bug in the KDE 3.5.5 version, that's been patched in the CVS.  It there an edgy package available somewhere?
[01:35] <Guest232> hello?
[01:36] <Endler> Hello guest.
[01:36] <Sergi0> hi reallylinuxn00b
[01:36] <reallylinuxn00b> I recently installed Kubuntu, and have a broadcom wifi network card (linksys). I need to know how to install it.
[01:37] <malik_> guyz still no luck with finding a way to increase the duration of popup bubble in kubuntu..................any idea where can i find it?
[01:37] <reallylinuxn00b> ...
[01:40] <Endler> I've never installed a broadcom based card, but most wireless cards turn out being a pain in the ass to install under Linux.  It's one of it's Achilles heals, unfortunately, so don't expect it to be too easy..
[01:42] <Endler> I guess everyone has started their weekend and is out having fun.  It's usually a lot busier in here.
[01:42] <ubuntu__> ola
[01:43] <notech> reallylinuxn00b: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:43] <LordOliver> reallylinuxn00b: install automatix2 then download then google your broadcom and download that it is really easy in kubuntu
[01:44] <LjL> !automatix
[01:44] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:44] <LordOliver> LjL: automatix2 works damn good for installing the NDIS wrapper
[01:44] <notech> broadcom shouldn't be much of a problem using ndiswrapper
[01:44] <Amority> has anyone had a problem where when they connect a USB device, it is recognized and asks what you wish to do, but after you select open in new window, it doesnt do anything? I dont why this has been happening lately :S
[01:45] <LjL> alright i'm not even gonna argue
[01:45] <notech> LordOliver: but why use something so risky when it's pretty simple following the docs?
[01:46] <LordOliver> notech: not motivated to do it the hard way when the easy way works just fine
[01:46] <notech> LordOliver: guess you never looked at the docs, its not hard
[01:46] <danychouinard> I've been able to enable my TVOUT on my HP laptop, how do I quickly switch to a lower resolution?
[01:46] <LordOliver> notech: plus, it was a fresh install so what was the worse to happen, I spend 20 minutes installing it again?
[01:47] <Amority> no one has ever encountered my USB mounting problem?
[01:47] <LordOliver> Amority: I don't know what is up... is the usb device on the desktop?
[01:47] <uptopux> hola
[01:47] <notech> LordOliver: whatever, but might be noce if you were to warn people about these risky apps when you suggest them. others may not want to reinstall
[01:48] <Amority> LordOliver, no it isnt. Lately when I connect a USB device, it will pop up asking what I want to do. After that it does nothing. The icon doesnt even appear anymore and the device isnt found in 'storage media'
[01:48] <vado> Bondoir
[01:49] <LordOliver> Amority: I am assuming just a small usb storage device?
[01:49] <Amority> For the most part, yes. Im also trying to connect my Camera, which (in the past) would be recognized like a USB storage device
[01:49] <danychouinard> Amority: Anything in dmesg?
[01:49] <LordOliver> notech: if I am to warn people of all the dangers in the world, I would be busy for along time
[01:50] <Amority> danychouinard, .. what do you mean dmesg? sorry Im still new. Is that a command?
[01:50] <LordOliver> Amority: try and find out
[01:50] <Amority> ok
[01:50] <Amority> ok :D
[01:50] <LordOliver> Amority: at least man it
[01:51] <Amority> it says :
[01:51] <Amority> [17217221.792000]  usb-storage: device scan complete
[01:51] <Amority> [17217341.556000]  usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[01:51] <LordOliver> if I am playing Mr Saftey always man a new command before use
[01:51] <danychouinard> amority : try and find out :)  But do it in a konsolne
[01:51] <danychouinard> konsole
[01:51] <Amority> there's more to it but thats all i could find that had USB in it
[01:51] <LordOliver> wow, that is one short man page
[01:52] <Amority> LordOliver :P i just pasted the bottom
[01:52] <LordOliver> Amority: no I just man'ed "dmesg"
[01:52] <notech> LordOliver: that's pathetic. do whatever you want, you can always change nicks or something after helping a few destroy their systems. i'v got no more to say.
[01:53] <Amority> is there a mount command that I can use?
[01:53] <Endler> I've used automatix on two systems   without any issues.
[01:54] <LordOliver> Amority: for future refrence to learn about a command use man <command>
[01:54] <Amority> ok thanks LordOliver
[01:54] <Amority> woah :D I see now
[01:55] <LordOliver> notech: is it safe to use "man" or should I war people about the power of knowledge also?
[01:55] <danychouinard> lol
[01:55] <LordOliver> Amority: if there is also info <command> sometimes it has different info
[01:55] <Amority> ok thanks :D
[01:56] <LordOliver> no problem
[01:56] <notech> LordOliver: stupid question since using man to learn a command will not possibly destroy a system.
[01:56] <danychouinard> I'm in KDE, should I be able to quickly witch resolution?
[01:57] <LordOliver> notech: what if the command they learn causes massive system failure?
[01:57] <mike-linux> where do I find all needed codecs etc/
[01:57] <mike-linux> what repo?
[01:57] <cpk1> libxine-extracodecs
[01:57] <Amority> universe and multiverse i think
[01:58] <mike-linux> ok I am new to kubuntu
[01:58] <notech> LordOliver: user error, not caused by using a risky app. now please quit using my nick. i do not agree with advising risky apps with no warning and never will, you do.
[01:58] <malik_> yes multiverse n universe
[01:58] <cpk1> !libxine-extracodecs
[01:58] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[01:58] <mike-linux> and vlc,w32,jre all in there?
[01:58] <danychouinard> me bad, sorry.  I only have one resolution listed in my xorg.conf, I guess my ctrl-alt-minus would be working now.
[01:59] <malik_> yes
[01:59] <LordOliver> it is the wrong time of the month for someone I see
[01:59] <malik_> but for jr u need to follow the instructions on the ubuntu or kubuntu hel pages
[01:59] <reallylinuxn00b> hi. I'm still having trouble installing my wifi card driver.
[02:00] <malik_> plus u dont really need to install jre on kubuntu
[02:00] <reallylinuxn00b> ^
[02:00] <mike-linux> for frostwire
[02:00] <LordOliver> malik_: some Java IDE's require it
[02:01] <Alter-Ego> in kontact, there is a spot for locality and region, where does state fall in this ?
[02:01] <malik_> okie then if u need it(jre) follow simple instruction on help pages of ur distro
[02:01] <fangorious> the livecd isn't displaying in 1680x1050, even though it put that as the default res in xorg.conf (and it is the native res of my display)
[02:01] <LordOliver> Alter-Ego: I would assume region
[02:03] <mike-linux> can I save /home?
[02:03] <CaBlGuY> !gaim
[02:03] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:03] <LordOliver> mike-linux: what do you mean?
[02:03] <LordOliver> it should say "poorly supporting MSN"
[02:04] <CaBlGuY> how would I go about upgrading gaim?
[02:04] <mike-linux> when installing I would like to save /home  petition
[02:05] <LordOliver> CaBlGuy: download the new one, and follow the instructions in the INSTALL file
[02:05] <CaBlGuY> LordOliver:  k..
[02:06] <Endler> It makes life a lot easier if you use a separate partition for home.
[02:06] <LordOliver> CaBlGuY: to keep various people around here happy... there are risks associated with Gaim
[02:06] <mike-linux> Endler: I have from a prevoius install
[02:07] <mike-linux> and would like to save it ,:and in debian etch installer
[02:07] <mike-linux> as^^
[02:07] <Endler> Oh, then upgrading shouldn't be a problem.  Just make sure you tell the installer to mount, but not format your home partition
[02:07] <mike-linux> Endler: cheers
[02:08] <mike-linux> brb 20 min ,,,install
[02:08] <CaBlGuY> LOL   yea, I  kinda know that already LordOliver, thanks anyway..  ;-)
[02:10] <danychouinard> I'm back, I was not able to switch xorg resolution after all
[02:11] <LordOliver> that sucks... I am too risky to help though ;)
[02:13] <danychouinard> When I was on ubuntu 5.10, I had that switch resolution application.  Is there something similar in KDE?
[02:15] <thill2708> how do I get my program into the repositories?
[02:15] <crimsun> thill2708: see the topic in #ubuntu-motu
[02:15] <CaBlGuY> ok, how do I install the gaim .rpm package?
[02:15] <thill2708> thanks
[02:16] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: why not use the included version in the repository? You can use adept, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, dselect to install it
[02:16] <LordOliver> danychouinard: there is a resapplet in the repositories
[02:16] <CaBlGuY> I got 1.5 already installed, I wanna upgrade to 2.0
[02:17] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: which kubuntu release are you using?
[02:17] <danychouinard> LordOliver: looking.  thanks
[02:17] <CaBlGuY> ummm   6.0 I think...
[02:17] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: ``lsb_release -r''
[02:17] <LordOliver> danychouinard: but, I am forced to tell, you that it may not be safe ;-)
[02:17] <danychouinard> I almost asked :D
[02:18] <LordOliver> danychouinard: I installed and it seems cool on my system though
[02:18] <CaBlGuY> 6.06
[02:18] <gator> I dont want to interupt - so Ill ask and then wait for someone to respond - Ive a little question about an nvidia graphics card...any help would be greatly appriciated...
[02:18] <danychouinard> Is the a way to query the package description beforehand - in case it is not safe for example?
[02:19] <danychouinard> from the CLI of course
[02:19] <danychouinard> gator:just ask
[02:19] <CaBlGuY> crimsun:  should I just get the Ubuntu upgrade?
[02:20] <noiesmo> !ask | gator
[02:20] <ubotu> gator: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:20] <CaBlGuY> gator:  do you have drivers installed yet?
[02:20] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: gaim hasn't been backported to 6.06
[02:20] <gator> I dont know what driver to use - I go through the vid setup - and I see drivers for my card - but the system says its a diff one...Im afraid if I change it, it might fart on me....
[02:20] <gator> I think I do....
[02:20] <gator> It says nv
[02:21] <CaBlGuY> gator:  do you get the Nvidia splash screen when u boot??
[02:21] <noiesmo> gator, open konsole type lspci | grep VGA
[02:21] <gator> nope...
[02:21] <gator> well maybe
[02:21] <CaBlGuY> K, u aint got them installed
[02:21] <gator> do you mean the text at the top showing the specs....
[02:21] <noiesmo> gator, that will tell you what card you have
[02:21] <CaBlGuY> crimsun:  so, upgrade Ubuntu then..  yes?
[02:22] <mike-linux> I am unable to install!
[02:22] <gator> yep - I actually still have the box - it says its a geforce fx 5500 but the sys says its an geforce 4
[02:22] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: I wouldn't do that just to get a newer version of gaim.
[02:22] <CaBlGuY> gator:  OK, u got the same card I do.
[02:22] <noiesmo> gator, check this its the easiest it downloads the latest driver of the net or you can use the nvidoia-glx from repos
[02:22] <CaBlGuY> crimsun:  well, I need to upgrade my Ubuntu anyway..   to get the new bells n wistles..  :p
[02:23] <mike-linux> My lcd screen gets muddled during install?
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> !tell gator about glxr
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glxr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> !tell gator about glx
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> there
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> dangit..  :/
[02:23] <gator> which works best - -plus should I try the ones listed - Im running kubuntu 6.10
[02:23] <noiesmo> gator, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html <-- link to download site the apps on launchpad also
[02:23] <LordOliver> mike-linux: is it truly LCD?
[02:24] <mike-linux> 1024x768 lcd=yes
[02:24] <danychouinard> LordOliver:resapplet is cool, worked pretty well.  Only complaining about ESD (I'm of course running artsd)
[02:24] <mike-linux> 60 Htz
[02:24] <CaBlGuY> !Nvidia drivers
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <noiesmo> gator, I just installed 9631 it took like 10 minutes including 6 minutes for my download driver
[02:24] <LordOliver> danychouinard: :-) my shady applets do work
[02:24] <gator> Thts from that link?
[02:25] <noiesmo> gator, http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20061209010614380
[02:25] <LordOliver> danychouinard: rofl, some people are just stupid
[02:25] <CaBlGuY> gator:  don't pay attention to anything I'm doin.. I'm just tryin to remeber.. :p
[02:25] <CaBlGuY> Listen to noiesmo..  ;)
[02:25] <LordOliver> has anyone ever installed D compiler on edgy?
[02:26] <gator> okay - Ill give it a run...thanks, Ill come back and let you know if I can....lol
[02:26] <crimsun> LordOliver: yes, it required a fair bit of work, but it's certainly feasible.
[02:26] <CaBlGuY> gator:  if you get the driver installed right..  you'll know..  ;)
[02:26] <gator> cool thnks again....ltr
[02:26] <LordOliver> crimsum: damn, I was hoping for the quick and dirty
[02:26] <CaBlGuY> c-ya o/
[02:26] <noiesmo> gator, just check my site notes
[02:26] <LordOliver> crimsun: damn, I was hoping for the quick and dirty
[02:27] <danychouinard> LordOliver: anyway, I did not follow what append first, but I know that one cannot complain for not doing there homework.
[02:27] <CaBlGuY> eeewww    quick n dirty..   just like the street walkers..   :p
[02:27] <noiesmo> !envy
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <crimsun> noiesmo: use standard blootbot syntax
[02:27] <noiesmo> how can we add envy to bot
[02:27] <LordOliver> crimsun: did you ever find a kubuntu friendly IDE for D?
[02:27] <crimsun> envy is blahblahblah
[02:28] <crimsun> LordOliver: I'm an nvi user.
[02:28] <malik_> LordOliver: is it possible to have restore session or restore a closed tab function of opera in konqueror?.........or there exists any extension for konqueror?
[02:28] <noiesmo> crimsun, I havent done before sorry dont know howto
[02:28] <crimsun> noiesmo: what is envy?
[02:28] <LordOliver> malik_: Opera works fine under kubuntu
[02:29] <BluesKaj> I like opera at times for something different , and itworks very well
[02:29] <noiesmo> crimsun, envy is a pearl script that install's nvidia drivers from nvidia very easy
[02:30] <noiesmo> crimsun, i used it and it works great
[02:30] <malik_> LordOliver:i tried opera but it didnt detect any multimedia plugins n i tried alotta different packages n ways, wasting my time for abt a wk b4 i got rid of it coz it wont play any thing off of the internet.
[02:30] <noiesmo> crimsun, here's the home page http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:31] <noiesmo> crimsun, project is registared on launchpad
[02:31] <noiesmo> crimsun, https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[02:31] <SupremeBeing> crimsun: Hey I remember you =) my name before was ColonelKernel :)
[02:31] <BluesKaj> one of best test of a browser for plugins is youtube , yahoo, amazon music sites
[02:32] <malik_> otherwise it was faster than konqueror n displays webfonts better
[02:32] <LordOliver> malik_: firefox?
[02:33] <crimsun> ubotu: envy is a Perl script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[02:33] <LordOliver> crimsun: don't forget the inherent risks involving scripts
[02:33] <LordOliver> ;-)
[02:34] <ScottA> Can anyone help me set up my wireless LAN?
[02:34] <malik_> LordOliver:firefox starts crashing alot and becomes slow after i install all the extensions to have all the features  of opera.............konqueror is working grately just one fucntion is missing which is restore closed tab or last session of tabs. if u r a programmer cant u guyz make some code into it n make it easy for all of us :)
[02:34] <ScottA> well, connect to my existing lan.
[02:34] <Jucato> !wireless
[02:35] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: sure
[02:35] <ScottA> I recently installed Kubuntu, and need to install the drivers for my wifi card, but don't know how.
[02:35] <Jucato> malik_: you can somewhat imitate the "last session of tabs" in Konqueror, but you have to do it manually...
[02:35] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: Are you sure you need to install the drivers?  I never have had to
[02:36] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: Have you tried simply using Wireless Assistant?
[02:36] <LordOliver> hmm... malik_, I am using firefox and it is fast enough, but I will look at konq for you
[02:36] <ScottA> Wireless Assistant doesn't recognize a connection
[02:36] <ScottA> its a linksys card
[02:36] <ScottA> it works fine in windows.
[02:36] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: Mine's linksys too.  Hmm, is your network encrypted?
[02:36] <ScottA> no
[02:36] <malik_> jucato: how do we do that?............can u point me in the right direction?
[02:36] <ScottA> how did you get yours to work?
[02:36] <LordOliver> ScottA: kcontrol and is eth0 disabled?
[02:37] <ScottA> hld.
[02:37] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: I just opened Wireless assistant and hit refresh, found my network, connected
[02:37] <ScottA> eth0 is disables.
[02:37] <Jucato> malik_: Settings -> Save View Profile will save the opened tabs (make sure the "Save URLs in profile" option is enabled)
[02:37] <ScottA> *disabled
[02:37] <SupremeBeing> is it pci or usb?
[02:38] <ScottA> pci
[02:39] <HabaKKuk> hello
[02:39] <HabaKKuk> im looking for english native speakers
[02:39] <HabaKKuk> ;/
[02:39] <SupremeBeing> Plenty here :)
[02:40] <HabaKKuk> are u one of them ?
[02:40] <HabaKKuk> ;)
[02:40] <malik_> Jucato: yes thats true but that is like a backup....................personally i still love opera n god knows i crave for it. its way faster than other browsers
[02:40] <LordOliver> malik_ that is true, it is just not supported well/at all
[02:41] <Jucato> remember I said you can "imitate"? I didn't say it was exactly the same
[02:41] <malik_> LordOliver: yes i know and i cant understand why the linux community doesnt like opera?
[02:42] <Jucato> malik_: 2 words: closed source
[02:42] <hans> malik_: is opera open source?
[02:42] <LordOliver> malik_: I think it may be too sunish for them linux people have unix/sun nightmares ;-)
[02:42] <Jucato> anyway, the whole linux community doesn't "doesn't like" opera
[02:43] <pacman> what's the easiest way to move a folder from my buddies linux server to my computer
[02:43] <SupremeBeing> Firefox is only about 8 million times better
[02:43] <Jucato> mostly just those who are really conscious about free/open source software
[02:43] <malik_> well opera has on their website different packages for nearly all the major linux flavours so im guessing on some level it is open source or free to use
[02:43] <LordOliver> telnet
[02:43] <hans> malik_: and by the way, for me it's not just that opera is closed source there are better open source browsers available
[02:43] <Jucato> malik_: free as in free beer, not free/open source
[02:44] <Jucato> tbh, though, opera is good
[02:44] <larson999> i like opera but it seems like it's not as friendly to some of the 'wild' code out there.
[02:44] <Jucato> and one of the best when it comes to mobile browsers
[02:44] <mike-linux> I get a pink screen when trying to install
[02:44] <mike-linux> fine line
[02:44] <hans> opera is great, firefox is better with the plugins
[02:45] <mike-linux> v^
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> Firefox + NoScript = God
[02:45] <larson999> i'd prefer opera if a few of the sites i use worked better with it.
[02:45] <hans> and addblock plus
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> that too  :) adblock is great
[02:45] <Jucato> anyway... it's all about choice. you have a choice, so there
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> and the web developer plugin is wonderful
[02:45] <Jucato> getting close to being -offtopic here
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> it's tangently related, all good
[02:46] <hans> and flashblock
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> ubotu left the server?!
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> lol
[02:46] <mike-linux> anyone else had probs installing/
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> mike-linux: installing what?
[02:46] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <hans> mike-linux: lots of ppl have had problems
[02:47] <SupremeBeing> mike-linux: are you using a downloaded iso or a ship-it cd?
[02:47] <mike-linux> I get a pink screen early innto the install process
[02:47] <mike-linux> iso is good
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about left the server?! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <malik_> hans: any suggestions other than firefox which will work in kubuntu............. already using konqueror but not gr8ly impressed ..........tho it gets the job done..............but missing  good mouse gestures n restoring closed tabs
[02:48] <hans> konquerror malik_
[02:48] <hans> not much else
[02:48] <Jucato> malik_: mouse gestures in KDE are global. they don't apply only to Konqueror
[02:48] <larson999> malik_ you looking for a browser?
[02:49] <mike-linux> SupremeBeing: downloaded
[02:49] <SupremeBeing> mike-linux: Did you run checksums?
[02:49] <hans> malik_: but by all means use opera
[02:49] <mike-linux> yes
[02:49] <mike-linux> all good
[02:49] <mike-linux> fine live
[02:50] <malik_> well i suppose one can use opera but then again for multimedia files i wud have to use konquerror........so its kinda pain
[02:50] <Jucato> konqueror also has a crash recovery plugin. and like I said earlier, you can manually save opened tabs. those 2 are enough for me to match Firefox's/Opera's similar features
[02:50] <Jucato> apokryphos: huh?
[02:50] <apokryphos> Jucato: problems with ubotu, so got a temporary replacement -- Ubotwo
[02:50] <LordOliver> kate': not bad... maybe not so good for me to pause Casino Royale, but not bad :-)
[02:50] <Jucato> apokryphos: ah no wonder that clone is there.... :)
[02:51] <LordOliver> oops, wrong channel
[02:51] <larson999> malik_ why can't you use opera for mulitmedia files?  there's also seamonky, mozilla.
[02:51] <LordOliver> seamonky is scary
[02:51] <SupremeBeing> I hate seamonkey
[02:51] <SupremeBeing> it's like Firefox for retarded people
[02:52] <SupremeBeing> jk lol
[02:52] <shadowhywind> stupid question, how does one remount a file-system as rewriteable from the konsole
[02:52] <LordOliver> man mount
[02:52] <hans> remount -o rw ??
[02:53] <LordOliver> man remount
[02:53] <LordOliver> it ain't that hard
[02:53] <larson999> i like seamonkey and mozilla for some things
[02:53] <malik_> larson999: i cudnt figure out how to make opera detect multimedia plugins n play video files off the net altho it was playin youtube files but bbc and npr.org and sydney morning herald n couple other ethnic sites were not working at all
[02:53] <SupremeBeing> malik_: That's because Firefox is better XD
[02:54] <larson999> malik_: oh?  i thought all i did was the same thing i did to get them to play in ff
[02:54] <digitalfreedom> my firefox hngs up sometimes loading pages
[02:54] <mf_debian> mount -o remount,rw /dev/something
[02:54] <SupremeBeing> digitalfreedom: Don't blame the browser =P probably ur lack of connection speed and/or RAM
[02:54] <hans> mf_debian: yep thats it
[02:55] <digitalfreedom> on the mandriva boards i here ppl speak of a "cooker" real fast could some tell what this "cooker" is?
[02:55] <mf_debian> digitalfreedom: same as sid
[02:55] <larson999> cooker is kinda lik edgy
[02:55] <digitalfreedom> ok now if i knew what sid was..id be happy
[02:55] <mf_debian> no edgy is stable now
[02:55] <malik_> may be i stuffed up somewhere but thing is no one on those days was free to help i asked for help alot but no answer so i tried alotta stuff on my own n it didnt really worked
[02:56] <mf_debian> sid == still in development, debian unstable branch
[02:56] <malik_> cooker is the apt-get of mandriva far as i know
[02:56] <digitalfreedom> dewd if got 1 gig of ram and i connect t 3306 ok its not me
[02:56] <digitalfreedom> firefox hangs and thats the end of it
[02:56] <larson999> cooker is kinda like the next edgy :)
[02:57] <digitalfreedom> hmmmmm neat
[02:57] <malik_> larson999: may be i stuffed up somewhere but thing is no one on those days was free to help i asked for help alot but no answer so i tried alotta stuff on my own n it didnt really worked
[02:57] <malik_> larson999: are u using opera?
[02:57] <shadowhywind> does my fstab have to have rw in it?
[02:58] <digitalfreedom> rw ?
[02:58] <mf_debian> shadowhywind: no
[02:58] <mf_debian> shadowhywind: defaults is fine for most partitions
[02:59] <shadowhywind> because i am doing mount -o ro /dev/hda1 and it still comes back as read-only file system
[02:59] <mf_debian> ro == read only rw == read write
[02:59] <mf_debian> which do you want?
[02:59] <hans> shadowhywind: is that a windows file sytem
[02:59] <shadowhywind> vfat
[03:00] <shadowhywind> thanks that worked
[03:00] <kn0ck0ut> anxious for upcoming version 7........... 3D desktop seems promising
[03:00] <kn0ck0ut> it is gonna blow vista
[03:00] <digitalfreedom> vista blows
[03:00] <shadowhywind> oh when i was looking at the man page, i read the wrong line, hehe
[03:01] <larson999> malik_: i am not.  i'm away from home staying in a hotel and not on my main machine
[03:01] <kn0ck0ut> I been away from linux a long time, just installed kubuntu two weeks ago I am loving it
[03:01] <digitalfreedom> version 7 of what?
[03:01] <digitalfreedom> kubuntu is the kill
[03:02] <coreymon77> guys
[03:02] <coreymon77> i accidentally pressed hide menubar in konqueror
[03:02] <coreymon77> how do i get the menubar back
[03:02] <digitalfreedom> hahah
[03:02] <kn0ck0ut> Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn Herd 1
[03:02] <kn0ck0ut> that is what I am talking about
[03:03] <hans> coreymon77: try [Alt] [Tab] 
[03:03] <kn0ck0ut> W coreymon77
[03:03] <kn0ck0ut> hit F9
[03:03] <malik_> coreymon : press ctrl=m
[03:03] <malik_> ctrl+m
[03:04] <coreymon77> thank you malik
[03:04] <malik_> welcome mate
[03:04] <kn0ck0ut> sorry was confused with the sidebar
[03:06] <digitalfreedom> no i look fatter holding zilla
[03:11] <pacman> okay, I'm a dumbass
[03:11] <pacman> someone help me out here
[03:11] <pacman> I want snag a folder off my buddies server, and put it on my desktop
[03:12] <mike-linux> pacman: whats broken?
[03:12] <pacman> what is it: scp <folder name> *<???>
[03:12] <aseigo> pacman: konqi is your friend
[03:12] <mike-linux> I cannot even install
[03:12] <digitalfreedom> install what mnike?
[03:12] <aseigo> pacman: open konqueror and type fish://user@server/path
[03:12] <aseigo> pacman: drag 'n drop to your hearts content
[03:12] <mike-linux> Feisty
[03:12] <aseigo> pacman: there's also sftp://
[03:13] <pacman> holy crap, batman
[03:13] <pacman> I've never done the fish:// business before....
[03:14] <ThePub> hmm, can amarok play modules?
[03:14] <digitalfreedom> yahoo just died
[03:14] <pacman> my yahoo just died too
[03:14] <digitalfreedom> kopete is geeking out
[03:14] <flaccid> guys looking for a program to look at what iso format my cd is?
[03:14] <aseigo> pacman: it just uses ssh but it's ++useful
[03:14] <digitalfreedom> wow really pacman?
[03:14] <pacman> yeah
[03:15] <Jucato> flaccid: k3b?
[03:15] <aseigo> Jucato: sftp requires sftp turned on in your ssh daemon.
[03:15] <Jucato> aseigo: ah ok. thanks :)
[03:15] <aseigo> Jucato: fish uses plain ol' ssh
[03:15] <pacman> is it Kopete or Yahoo that's down?
[03:15] <flaccid> hmm where would i go Jucato?
[03:15] <digitalfreedom> its yahoo my moms died
[03:15] <digitalfreedom> and she is on xp
[03:15] <Jucato> pacman: both are fine here
[03:15] <ThePub> pacman: Kopete can't go 'down' it's just a client.
[03:15] <pacman> hmm
[03:15] <digitalfreedom> i.l try again
[03:16] <digitalfreedom> nope
[03:16] <digitalfreedom> lastnight i got a message about yahoo doing work on the system
[03:16] <flaccid> Jucato: k3b says its iso9660. i mounted it but cannot see any files
[03:16] <Jucato> !iso
[03:16] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[03:17] <flaccid> i'll try that thanks
[03:17] <flaccid> um
[03:17] <flaccid> no thats an iso
[03:18] <flaccid> i want to mount my iso9660 cd which is apple computer type 002
[03:18] <malik_> hey guyz my amarok wont add my music to the library saying taglib package might be broken ...........i have uninstalled n then reinstalled it off the net with apt-get but still same prob...................any idea?
[03:18] <digitalfreedom> i do have a real question tho....i got this file and its a .package extension how do i install this? nvr seen that ext b4
[03:18] <Jucato> pacman: spoke too soon, Yahoo's dying on me too
[03:18] <pacman> jucato that sucks
[03:19] <LordOliver> yahoo, just kicked it on me also
[03:19] <Jucato> now I don't know whether that's just Yahoo-KOpete, or Kopete in general
[03:19] <digitalfreedom> its crapping out guys i cant see it now...the servers maps are all going blank
[03:19] <Jucato> err. I meant Yaho in general
[03:20] <digitalfreedom> this is soooooooooooo WEAK
[03:20] <LordOliver> yahoo server maps are a joke, they are the equivlant to saying "why sure I will drop my pants and take it up the ass"
[03:21] <digitalfreedom> hhahahah @ Lord Oli
[03:22] <digitalfreedom> thats true tho
[03:22] <ThePub> yahoo put out a message last night they were going down about this time for updates
[03:22] <digitalfreedom> i got that but didnt believe it] 
[03:22] <digitalfreedom> thought it was spam
[03:22] <digitalfreedom> guess not :-P
[03:26] <LordOliver> digitalfreedom: spam? me? flame yes, spam is just not healthy
[03:26] <malik_> hey guyz can any1 help me?.................... my amarok wont add my music to the library saying taglib package might be broken ...........i have uninstalled n then reinstalled it off the net with apt-get but still same prob...................any idea?
[03:26] <LordOliver> I use noaton
[03:27] <BluesKaj> does anyone's browser play this movie? http://homepage.mac.com/savagebean/iMovieTheater11.html   ... if so lemme know what plugins I'm missing
[03:28] <Skeez187> How do I use different wallpapers for the 4 virtual desktops?
[03:29] <Jucato> Skeez187: choose the desktop you want to apply the wallpaper to in the drop down list at the top
[03:29] <flaccid> what is the native gui mount tool to kubuntu
[03:29] <malik_> LordOliver: whats Noaton?
[03:30] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, mozilla-mplayer
[03:30] <noiesmo> !mozilla-mplayer
[03:30] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[03:30] <Jucato> flaccid: Disks & Filesystem in System Settings
[03:30] <ubuntu> !grub
[03:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:30] <noiesmo> LjL, will the envy info be in all ubuntu channels
[03:30] <LordOliver> malik_: media player app
[03:30] <Skeez187> Thank you very much Jucato
[03:30] <Skeez187> :D
[03:31] <LjL> noiesmo: yes, it wasn't added as a channel-specific factoid
[03:31] <ubuntu> !wiki
[03:31] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:31] <noiesmo> LjL, cool :)
[03:31] <BluesKaj> noiesmo, I have mozilla - mplayer installed...kaffeine won't start for some reason :(
[03:31] <noiesmo> !w32codecs | BluesKaj
[03:31] <ubotu> BluesKaj: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:32] <hans> BluesKaj: I get "No stream found"
[03:32] <pacman> anyone ever use a Sansa mp3 player and try and use Linux to ptu files on it and stuff
[03:32] <RoC_MM_0w> Any idea why a .procmailrc file wouldn't be being read by on dapper drake?  I have postfix&procmailrc installed, and the user owns the directory and it's files.  It's totally not reading the procmailrc at all.
[03:33] <noiesmo> hans, site works for me mozilla-mplayer kicks in
[03:33] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, I added some symbolic links to my w32codecs folder
[03:33] <hans> noiesmo: not for me, I even got the html and tried mplayer directly
[03:33] <BluesKaj> noiesmo, you using FF ?
[03:34] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, yes firefox
[03:34] <jorge__> hi
[03:35] <BluesKaj> noiesmo, what symbolic links did you add ?
[03:35] <RoC_MM_0w> Anybody with procmail experience?
[03:35] <ubuntu> does anyone know the link to the site that tells you how to add windows to your grub menu?
[03:36] <RoC_MM_0w> !grub
[03:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:36] <ubuntu> it dosnt say how to there
[03:37] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, I have unpacked w32codecs to /usr/lib/codecs
[03:37] <RoC_MM_0w> It's relatively easy, the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:37] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, I then have a link from codecs to /usr/lib/win32
[03:37] <hans> ubuntu http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu
[03:37] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, I also have one from codecs to /usr/local/lib/codecs
[03:38] <ubuntu> hans: thanks
[03:38] <lrentz> How can you integrate Kate into konqueror.  I switched from suse to kubuntu and I got quite fond of that configurations
[03:38] <Jucato> right-click Preview in Embedded Text Editor?
[03:39] <lrentz> hmmm. let me see.
[03:39] <BluesKaj> thanks noiesmo , installed the plugin ...it works !
[03:40] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, :)
[03:41] <lrentz> is there a way to preview it default.
[03:41] <lrentz> open in a new tab works as well.
[03:42] <RawSewage> Is it normal to have a lot of kio_file and kio_html slave socket things in the process table?
[03:42] <lrentz> automatically previews it.
[03:42] <lrentz> I thought that I actually got the editor in suse.
[03:43] <RawSewage> whats' kdeinit
[03:44] <RawSewage> can I shut off kdeinit
[03:44] <RawSewage> it seems to be making lots of slave sockets
[03:44] <malik_> noiesmo: how do we can i make this link?.............from /usr/lib/codecs to /usr/local/lib/codecs.................?
[03:45] <RawSewage> Is it normal to have a lot of kio_file and kio_html slave socket things in the process table?
[03:45] <TheDebugger> cd /usr/local/lib         ln -s /usr/lib/codec
[03:46] <RawSewage> kdeinit is creating a ton of slave sockets
[03:46] <TheDebugger> cd /usr/local/lib         ln -s /usr/lib/codecs           ...
[03:46] <hans> malik_: ln -s  /usr/lib/codecs /usr/local/lib/codecs
[03:50] <malik_> thanx to all the guys who responded
[03:50] <noiesmo> malik_, sorry dude was doing how to for this for my site lol
[03:51] <malik_> thats okie
[03:51] <malik_> i think its great thant linux has come so far
[03:52] <malik_> specially for total nebiz like me
[03:52] <malik_> im loving it n probably wud love it even more when i ll b able to figure out how to make opera function properly in linux
[03:53] <noiesmo> malik_, yeah but opera is free as in free beer but not free open source
[03:55] <vanique> okay well
[03:55] <vanique> any native english speaker there ?
[03:55] <vanique> :)
[03:56] <crimsun> there are quite a few.
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yup, several
[03:56] <vanique> i just need one only for improvment of one pharse
[03:56] <vanique> ;)
[03:57] <BluesKaj> vanique, ask your question
[03:58] <ubuntu_> !grub
[03:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:03] <digitalfreedom> well chit
[04:15] <crazyreddwolf> hello i'm looking for some help in setting up my ftp server i ran the apt-get part that in the server guid but can't seem to get in to configure it
[04:15] <ubuntu_> !grub
[04:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:16] <crazyreddwolf> i also get a message that the zeroconf is not running so how would i get it running again
[04:18] <ThePub> crazyreddwolf: do nothing of course!  it's "zero conf" afterall, right?
[04:18] <crazyreddwolf> thats what it says
[04:19] <crazyreddwolf> would i need it running for the other computers on my network to see the ftp server
[04:19] <Whopper> hello
[04:19] <ThePub> evening
[04:19] <Whopper> there is a problem: when i try to boot, it says frequency out of range. I'm new, what can i do to fix this?
[04:19] <crazyreddwolf> hello
[04:19] <ThePub> crazyreddwolf: no clue, sorry.  haven't been paying attention.
[04:19] <Whopper> well, it says 78k / 97 hz
[04:20] <crazyreddwolf> hello i'm looking for some help in setting up my ftp server i ran the apt-get part that in the server guid but can't seem to get in to configure it
[04:20] <crazyreddwolf> for me to finish seting up the ftp server i have running
[04:20] <crazyreddwolf> but i get the message about the zeroconf
[04:21] <philip> Can anyone recommend to me a simple game which I could play without much thought while listening to an audiobook
[04:21] <lrentz> frozen bubbles
[04:22] <Hirvinen> philip: Why not just listen?
[04:22] <lrentz> true haha
[04:22] <hans> or sleep?
[04:22] <philip> For some reason I can listen better when I'm playing a simple game like Tron.
[04:23] <crazyreddwolf> is there anyone that could help me with my dilema
[04:24] <noiesmo> how can I create a text file with a list of all directories and the disk space used for each specifically my users home space
[04:26] <fm-2> noiesmo: cd /home; du > space.txt
[04:26] <redleader> evening folks
[04:26] <redleader> got a quick question
[04:27] <fm-2> shoot
[04:27] <redleader> I'm attempting to play a dvd on 6.10, and the title pops up when I insert the disc (autoplay) but when I go to play it in kaffeine, it says that the disc is blank or I dont have permissions
[04:27] <fm-2> ugh... brb
[04:28] <noiesmo> fm-2,  cheers
[04:28] <crazyreddwolf> hello i'm looking for some help in setting up my ftp server i ran the apt-get part that in the server guid but can't seem to get in to configure it
[04:28] <redleader> as in : The source can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
[04:31] <digitalfreedom> where should i install java to ? or better yet where at../usr/bin? /usr/local...
[04:34] <crazyreddwolf> ok then can some one point me in the right direction for help with setting up a ftp server
[04:34] <crazyreddwolf> with out going to the server guid
[04:37] <redleader> I'm noticing a lack of support in this "support" chan
[04:37] <crazyreddwolf> i see the same thing it like they don't evn care
[04:37] <redleader> ah well, back to reading the useless FAQ
[04:37] <redleader> should be a party
[04:37] <crazyreddwolf> true
[04:38] <crazyreddwolf> i'm doing that right now
[04:38] <crazyreddwolf> with getting a server running
[04:40] <redleader> hows that working out for you?
[04:40] <redleader> I'm just trying to watch a dvd
[04:40] <crazyreddwolf> not good
[04:40] <hans> crazyreddwolf: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#FTP_Server
[04:40] <crazyreddwolf> hans i have that already and it is doing me no good
[04:41] <hans> crazyreddwolf: so what is the problem?
[04:41] <crazyreddwolf> redleader hows yours going
[04:42] <redleader> I have no idea what I'm doing
[04:42] <redleader> its great
[04:42] <crazyreddwolf> i can't get the ftp server to configure
[04:42] <crazyreddwolf> and i get a zeroconf message
[04:42] <redleader> all I want to do is change permissions on a dvd drive
[04:42] <tamacracker> Hey guys?
[04:42] <crazyreddwolf> thats true
[04:42] <abattoir> redleader: you have libdvdcss installed?
[04:43] <crazyreddwolf> hello
[04:43] <tamacracker> How do I stop a specific site from loading pop ups?
[04:43] <redleader> I dont even know what that is
[04:43] <abattoir> !dvd | redleader
[04:43] <ubotu> redleader: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:43] <abattoir> hmm, i guess that's too ubuntu specific...
[04:43] <abattoir> wait a sec
[04:43] <redleader> is it in adept?
[04:44] <abattoir> redleader: install libdvdnav and libdvdread3 from adept
[04:44] <abattoir> (if you have multiverse enabled)
[04:44] <tamacracker> Does anyone now how to stop pop ups from a specific website when using firefox?
[04:44] <tamacracker> now - know
[04:45] <redleader> I have libdvdnav4 installed, is that okay?
[04:45] <abattoir> redleader: once you've installed libdvdread3, go to /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3(preferably in a terminal)
[04:45] <abattoir> redleader: yeah, install libdvdread3 too
[04:45] <redleader> got both
[04:45] <abattoir> redleader: ok, open up a terminal(konsole)
[04:45] <redleader> k
[04:45] <abattoir> redleader: cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3
[04:46] <abattoir> redleader: sudo ./install-css.sh
[04:46] <abattoir> redleader: (btw, doing this might be illegal in your country, check w/ local laws)
[04:46] <redleader> oh... alrighty
[04:46] <redleader> its installing
[04:46] <abattoir> redleader: cool, try playing a dvd after that's done
[04:47] <No1Viking> I must have done something really wrong here. I get new downloaded e-mails into my draft folder instead of inbox. Any ideas why?
[04:47] <redleader> kaffeine crashed, I'm gonna try it again
[04:48] <redleader> awesome!
[04:48] <redleader> thanks!
[04:48] <losguachones> alguien de chile
[04:49] <redleader> I'm gonna go watch a movie, many thanks
[04:50] <tamacracker> Can someone tell how I can block a specific site, please?
[04:52] <crazyreddwolf> that sight is usless to me i have kubuntu 6.06 not the ubuntu 6.10
[04:55] <crazy_bus> I installed normall ubuntu.  And then installed the package 'kubuntu-desktop' to get the KDE windows manager.  But for some reason KDE is different from when I got it from straight kubuntu.  The font's are different, firefox looks half GNOME, and item on the KDE menu bar flicker if you hover over them.  Does anyone know anything about this?
[05:00] <noiesmo> crazy_bus, did you install kubuntu-default-settings
[05:01] <chih> 
[05:01] <chih> 
[05:01] <Jucato> !cn
[05:01] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:02] <Jucato> !jp
[05:02] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[05:04] <crazy_bus> noieesmo, apt-get install, says that I already have the latest version of kubuntu-default-settings.
[05:10] <syntaxx> anyone know the md5sum of the kubuntu 6.10 i386 cd?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> it should be in a file on the ftp sites syntaxx
[05:12] <syntaxx> ok thanks
[05:13] <[RIP] d3jake> okay, if when starting up the install of the newest version of Kubuntu, I get this on the top of the screen: Loading /casper/vmlinuz ... isolinux:Disk error 80, AX = 4200, drive 9F <= What' does that mean?
[05:13] <syntaxx> Dr_willis: when i check defect the cd it says checksum 1 failed.. but the md5sum is correct that would be burn error right?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> sounds likely.. or you are checking the cd wrong
[05:14] <Dr_willis> or got the wrong md5sum file :)
[05:15] <syntaxx> i downloaded the file here http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/edgy/
[05:15] <syntaxx> the kubuntu desktop i386
[05:15] <[RIP] d3jake> `I did too
[05:16] <Dr_willis> 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e  kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:16] <syntaxx> anyone know a good m5sum checker for windows?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I installed Opera - and somehow its set to the default browser
[05:17] <Dr_willis> syntaxx,  i recall one that put 'check md5sum' in the right click menus under windows.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> but i aint used it in ages
[05:17] <syntaxx> ok
[05:18] <[RIP] d3jake> is it my turn to ask a question..?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> you just did.. care to ask another. :)
[05:19] <digitalfreedom> !java
[05:19] <[RIP] d3jake> :p
[05:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:19] <[RIP] d3jake> okay, if when starting up the install of the newest version of Kubuntu, I get this on the top of the screen: Loading /casper/vmlinuz ...isolinux:Disk  error 80, AX = 4200, drive 9F <= What' does that mean?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Your cd/disk is bad most likely.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> burnt wrong/bad download/or somthing similer
[05:20] <[RIP] d3jake> aww
[05:20] <Dr_willis> hence the use of the term 'Disk  error' :)
[05:20] <[RIP] d3jake> though I did order one...though I was told that the version that you can order is old?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> its possible the cd/dvd drive is flakey..
[05:21] <Dr_willis> the ones they send are the LTS version. so its the 'long term support' version
[05:21] <Dr_willis> You can upgrade from it to the latest
[05:21] <[RIP] d3jake> so..?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> It also can take some time to get to you.
[05:21] <[RIP] d3jake> heh
[05:21] <[RIP] d3jake> couplea weeks?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Ive heard some times several months. :)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> but i normally download the images
[05:22] <[RIP] d3jake> that i did... though I"ll probably set up the download on a diffrent computer...
[05:22] <ThePub> last time I looked at the page it said it could be as much as 12 weeks
[05:22] <[RIP] d3jake>  O_O
[05:23] <[RIP] d3jake> this comp likes to randomly stop downloading when I set it up to download overnight
[05:23] <Dr_willis> or go to the latest bookstore and find a linux magazine with the cds
[05:23] <ThePub> just do a network install using grub for windows :)
[05:23] <[RIP] d3jake> ``net install? I've heard of Grub, but that's about all I know...
[05:24] <[RIP] d3jake> but Windows I know alot about :)
[05:25] <ThePub> couple months back I did that with dapper and it worked like a charm.  takes modifying your windows boot sequence though, and unless you know something about windows boot sequences and grub can be a real pain.  forget I suggested it :)
[05:25] <[RIP] d3jake> ah, sounds good :)
[05:26] <ThePub> but it allows a person to install w/o needing to burn/write any disks.  which was a lifesaver for me ;)
[05:26] <[RIP] d3jake> ah, then again I don't really want to mess with my boot start up thingie...
[05:27] <[RIP] d3jake> I'll try to get a new CD burned, I"ll come back in here, whether it works or not
[05:27] <[RIP] d3jake> talk to y'all later
[05:27] <ThePub> thanks for the warning?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Grub is one of those tools thats worth  reading/learning/and learning well.
[05:28] <ThePub> isn't that true?  it's one of those tools that you don't think anything about until you need it, and that's just about the time you wish you knew a bit more about it :)
[05:29] <ThePub> all new linux users should be made to use Lilo first.. just so there is an appreciation of what Grub offers ^^
[05:30] <campbch> ello
[05:30] <ThePub> evening
[05:31] <digitalfreedom> hi
[05:31] <campbch> are there problems occurring with the flash player? i can't get any sound periodically :(
[05:31] <campbch> like, now-ish
[05:31] <campbch> is there any way to reload it? it should work based on the content, it's just youtube
[05:32] <digitalfreedom> which brwoser?
[05:32] <ThePub> stop and start your browser :)
[05:32] <campbch> firefox
[05:32] <campbch> i stopped, started, stopped x, restarted, which im sure does the sound
[05:32] <campbch> it's still not doing anything
[05:33] <campbch> im definately not muted :p
[05:33] <campbch> and other sound, .ogg files and such work
[05:34] <campbch> :o
[05:34] <campbch> does it stop and start things differently?
[05:34] <campbch> i did it again, and now it works :o
[05:34] <campbch> disproving the literal definition of insanity
[05:34] <ThePub> maybe you should make a sacrifice to the adobe gods?
[05:52] <malik_> hello ppl............can some one tell me plz how to fix or restore my desktop theme back to system default in kubuntu ..................i was fiddling with it n now it looks like really bed version of win98
[05:52] <abattoir> malik_: you mean the widget style?
[05:53] <abattoir> malik_: or the colour?
[05:54] <malik_> everything has gone haywire.............i have fixed the blue color bar at the top of the page but actual page n text on it are not recoverd yet
[05:54] <abattoir> on top of which page?
[05:54] <malik_> they r very bland..........not like shiny n spiffy when i installed linux
[05:55] <abattoir> malik_: could you post a screenshot?
[05:55] <abattoir> malik_: at imageshack.us, for example
[05:56] <malik_> i can but how do i do that?..........do i have to have amembership?
[05:56] <abattoir> malik_: no it's free
[05:56] <ThePub> malik_: go into the control panel
[05:57] <ThePub> expand appearance and  themes
[05:57] <ThePub> click on theme manager
[05:57] <ThePub> choose a theme on the left side of the right panel :)
[05:57] <malik_> oki im in theme manager
[05:57] <ThePub> those are all the basic ones that come with theme
[05:58] <ThePub> with kde
[05:59] <malik_> yea i know that much but ...........its very bland now
[05:59] <ThePub> so what's diff?
[05:59] <malik_> b4 pages were nice n shiny n spiffy
[06:00] <ThePub> all the "spiffy" features are under the appearances section.. for the most part ^_^
[06:00] <malik_> now they are greyish
[06:00] <ThePub> web pages?
[06:02] <malik_> yes
[06:02] <malik_> abattor: here is the screenshot...................... http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1oe5.png
[06:06] <ThePub> malik_: expand internet and network, then web browser and you may wish to look under fonts
[06:07] <ThePub> malik_: in fact.. if you go down all those different options and just hit the "defaults" button.. they'll all go back to the default :)
[06:08] <intelikey> or logout and rm ~/.kde -r       resets most everything
[06:09] <malik_> would that even reset my plugin settings too? and the icons on the panel bar too?
[06:10] <intelikey> plugins for ?    pannel yes.
[06:10] <malik_> plugins formultimedia in konqi
[06:10] <malik_> plugins for multimedia in konqi
[06:10] <intelikey> yeah
[06:11] <malik_> u mean it wud or it wudnt?
[06:11] <malik_> im bit confused
[06:11] <intelikey> it should
[06:12] <malik_> bugger
[06:12] <malik_> that means im stuffed
[06:12] <DennisTT> Hi
[06:12] <DennisTT> I'm wondering how much swap space I should allocate for my Kubuntu
[06:13] <malik_> aussie aussie aussie.........................
[06:13] <malik_> lets see if some one can reply
[06:15] <intelikey> heavy ram usage would be in the line of 1+g    medium usage  190m to 900m       and light ram usage  12m to 128m     so figure that as real ram plus swap space DennisTT
[06:15] <DennisTT> Thanks
[06:19] <intelikey> without doing major hacking about 12m is as light as i can run ubuntu linux      an ultra-light truely minimalist linux can be as small as 64k ram    but is generally about 4m.   didn't figure that would apply tho.
[06:24] <intelikey> specally seeing that i found it impossable to boot a default ubuntu kernel in 4m    the kernel + initrd wont uncompress in that amount of space.
[06:25] <intelikey> which is propper,   uncompress or decompress ?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> Decompress
[06:27] <Hawkwind> There is no such word as uncompress
[06:28] <intelikey> poppycock.
[06:28] <Hawkwind> Could have answered your own question by going to google.com and typing   define:uncompress
[06:30] <intelikey> so you say google doesn't know about uncompressed things ?      oh well that's just another shortcomming of google.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> you uncompress the .zip. but the diver underwent decompression :)
[06:30] <genii> Hello. Is anyone aware of a precompiled kernel with sshd? I'm doing netboots, want to monitor the stations without a mess of KVM etc
[06:31] <intelikey> Dr_willis actually i think you decompress the .zip  but it is afterwards uncompressed....
[06:31] <intelikey> i could be wrong.
[06:31] <NewNovice> Any help here on changing the monitor power-off time from the default (5 min) such that the change stays through a reboot? (desktop use)
[06:32] <NewNovice> running dapper
[06:33] <intelikey> NewNovice if you can reset a box without it waking the monitor there is something wrong with the hardware.
[06:34] <genii> I believe his issue is that he can set it to turn off in whatever time, but that the change gets wiped next time he starts the system
[06:34] <intelikey> NewNovice i'm saying it can't be done.    let he who will prove me wrong.
[06:34] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me with something in the gimp?
[06:34] <intelikey> genii ah youre probably right.
[06:34] <NewNovice> genii: correct.
[06:35] <intelikey> NewNovice ok how do you change it to begin with ?
[06:35] <intelikey> an init script can set things at boot time.
[06:35] <NewNovice> I can change the time, and it sticks only for that X session.
[06:36] <genii> NewNovice I think you need to set another option that saves your session.
[06:36] <NewNovice> Changed using system settings
[06:36] <NewNovice> OK how?
[06:37] <intelikey> mmmmm ok that's kcontrol.     mmmm   save session as default ?
[06:37] <genii> Unfortunately I'm not on a  KDE box right now to go find it :( But if you poke around I'm sure it's not extremely hidden
[06:37] <NewNovice> How do I get to kcontrol?  I thought that was replaced by system settings.
[06:37] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: uncompress is *not* a word.  It does not exist.  It's always been *decompress*.  You decompress a compressed file, and the diver underwent decompression
[06:38] <genii> hawkwind - I agree with you.
[06:38] <intelikey> Hawkwind we use it too much for it to "not exist"  google is wrong.
[06:38] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I never said google doesn't know about uncompressed things.  I stated, uncompress is *not* a word, as google could have told you that
[06:38] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Believe what you want, but it's been incorrect for years and years
[06:39] <intelikey> and new words are born every day.
[06:39] <intelikey> computer isn't a word.
[06:39] <genii> well, uncompress is a word. For instance, you can have an uncompressed file which has not been previously compressed. Therefore it cannot be stated to be decompressed.
[06:39] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Computer is a word.  google.com and type   define:computer
[06:40] <Hawkwind> genii: That's still decompressed
[06:40] <genii> hah so true
[06:40] <intelikey> but webster's dictionary doesn't list it.  so it's not a word.     point being what you use for the authority on the issue makes all the differance.
[06:40] <Hawkwind> uncompressed is in no dictionary at this current time.  If it's not in Websters then it's not a word
[06:40] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Yes it most certainly does
[06:41] <intelikey> and i don't count google as an anthority on ... well much of anything except search engines
[06:41] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Sounds like you better learn to use dictionary.com before you speak
[06:41] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Then that's where your problem lies
[06:42] <genii> Does anyone know ehre to find precompiled kernels with certain feature sets? I need an installation kernel for netboot installs which will let me ssh into that box.
[06:42] <intelikey> Hawkwind no not my problem.
[06:42] <ThePub> Using Webster's to determine a words' validity is like basing contemporary history on a geologic history framework.
[06:42] <intelikey> ThePub so you agree with me....
[06:42] <Hawkwind> ThePub: Thta's how it's done.  If it's not in the Websters or Meriams, then it's not recognized as a word.  It's been that way for many years now
[06:43] <ThePub> Maybe if a person wants to naively argue a point, sure.
[06:44] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me do a transparent layer in gimp
[06:44] <Hawkwind> Look up the word funner.  It's not a word, and it's also not in any dictionary
[06:44] <NewNovice> How do I get to kcontrol?  I thought that was replaced by system settings.(dapper)
[06:44] <ThePub> I think you'll find that the popular vernacular will hold more sway outside if the five or so people per college campus who use the dictionary rule.  ;)
[06:44] <Hawkwind> RoKFiT: Tried #Gimp ?
[06:44] <genii> Alternately a method to pre-execute or insert a kernel module for sshd
[06:44] <RoKFiT> yeah, no one is replying
[06:44] <ThePub> RoKFiT: create a new layer and set it to transparent.. it's not hard :)
[06:45] <RoKFiT> ThePub, how?
[06:45] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: there should be a layer option for transparent.
[06:45] <ThePub> open the "Layers" window and click on the "New Layer" button
[06:45] <unix_infidel> its just like Photoshop since like PS6.0
[06:45] <RoKFiT> under transparency there are like 5 different options for layers
[06:46] <RoKFiT> add color to alpha or add to alpha
[06:46] <ThePub> you're making it too difficult.
[06:46] <intelikey> un- is of much wider application, and is attached at will to almost any adjective, or participle used adjectively, or adverb, from and is also, but less freely, prefixed to nouns.   <--- noah webster on un-    so uncompressed is as valid as unleaded or unused or any other word that we apply it to...
[06:46] <ThePub> go to the dialogs menu, click on layers
[06:46] <weswh-> where do i go to change my network settings? (i want to give myself a static ip)
[06:46] <RoKFiT> okay
[06:46] <ThePub> in the new layers window, click on "new layer" (looks like a page in lower-right corner)
[06:47] <ThePub> under "layer fill type" click "Transparency"
[06:47] <genii> weswh you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:47] <ThePub> click "ok"
[06:47] <ThePub> delete old layer
[06:47] <RoKFiT> why can i not edit the tranparency of an existing layer?
[06:47] <ThePub> bada bing, bada boom, presto changeo.. problemo solved
[06:48] <intelikey> the fact that google doesn't find uncompressed doesn't mean it's not a word.    absense of evidance is not evidance of absense    if all the uses of un-  were listed the dictionary would be almost twice as large.
[06:48] <ThePub> intelikey: there is a difference between words and bad english though.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> unbeliveable!
[06:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <RoKFiT> thep
[06:49] <Dr_willis> understandable
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <RoKFiT> ThePub: read what i wrote
[06:49] <Dr_willis> is 'derstandable' a word?
[06:49] <ThePub> RoKFiT: maybe you can.. but I don't know.  Maybe check out a gimp channel or mailing list or howto for more specific stuff.
[06:49] <RoKFiT> why can't i make an existing layer semi trans..
[06:49] <RoKFiT> i am in gimp
[06:49] <RoKFiT> idk how
[06:49] <intelikey> Dr_willis hehhe
[06:49] <RoKFiT> nobody is responding
[06:49] <weswh-> genii - no graphical tool?
[06:50] <ThePub> RoKFiT: it's IRC and probably a under-used or cared-for channel.  don't sweat it, don't expect miracles and don't expect instant gratification.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> 'expect the unexpected'
[06:50] <ThePub> RoKFiT: I know there's some pretty extensive books on the gimp homepage.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> unless thats not a word.
[06:50] <RoKFiT> i'll check the forums
[06:50] <Dr_willis> 'unless' theres another..!
[06:50] <genii> weswh Well there likely is but I'm a command-line guy. It's not that difficult, there are scores of examples out there. You can use konsole from X and it's not so painful
[06:51] <ThePub> So anyhow, someone said something about "funner".  Which is not a word, it's a violation of the English language ruleset.
[06:51] <weswh-> genii - do i have to set all of the information, or can i let dhcp handle any of it? like, do i need to give it dns
[06:51] <weswh-> i see some examples that seem to exclude dns
[06:51] <intelikey> enough with the unwarrented undesirable and uneducated uses of un.....
[06:51] <intelikey> down with the UN
[06:51] <RoKFiT> ThePub: what is the url?
[06:51] <genii> wes - 1 minute, I'll ssh into a boxen and pull an example for you
[06:52] <ThePub> weswh-: kcontrol -> internet & network -> network settings doesn't work for you?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> funner is not? but funnier is?
[06:52] <genii> There ya go :) A graphical interface
[06:53] <ThePub> RoKFiT: gimp.org I'd imagine.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> I recall a paper out years ago about re-engineering english. :) really irked the english majors.. would of put a lot of them out of a job.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> +good ++good.
[06:53] <ThePub> lol
[06:53] <RoKFiT> nothing about transparencies in the how to, and i'm not buying a book
[06:53] <weswh-> i don't see Kcontrol? i see Kinfo..
[06:53] <intelikey> Dr_willis i don't speak english anyway,  :)
[06:54] <intelikey> very few of us do.
[06:54] <ThePub> RoKFiT: then wait on irc, search the web, or wait patiently here I suppose.  I have given you the sum total of my experience on gimp and transpariencies.  It's worked for years for me that way :)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> 'us'? Egads! you are one of 'them!'
[06:54] <genii> wes - Anyhow basically you just replace "dhcp" with "static" then below that you put "address x.x.x.x" "netmask x.x.x.x" "default-router x.x.x.x" all on separate lines with appropriate values.
[06:54] <ThePub> I don't speak English either.  I'm American, we speak Mutt.
[06:54] <intelikey> us and them, we and they, why does it all come down to black and white like that.....
[06:54] <RoKFiT> ThePub: well with your method, do you know how to adjust the amount of transparency?
[06:55] <genii> wes - and without the quotes around the lines
[06:56] <ubuntu> hello everone...trying to get this demo disk to install anyone care to kill a few minutes with me?
[06:56] <ThePub> I really wish konversation didn't use the visited link color for lines that have your name in them :(
[06:56] <intelikey> ubuntu not at all
[06:56] <darkangel_> hi! I need help with my sound card, i tried to compile alsa driver byt i had problems with that and now I can't heard anything, someone could helpe me please?
[06:56] <ThePub> RoKFiT: hmm, haven't tried that for years.. let me check something.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> 'what' demo disk?
[06:57] <genii> darkangel Which chipset?
[06:57] <darkangel_> via 8237 genii
[06:57] <ubuntu> you know the disc that has linux on it without installing it first
[06:57] <ThePub> RoKFiT: you're not looking for transparency but a solid mask, right?
[06:57] <genii> darkangel thats not a soundcard chipset
[06:57] <Dr_willis> ubuntu - you are refering to the Kubuntu "Live cd" ?
[06:58] <ubuntu> yeah a live cd
[06:58] <ubuntu> thats it
[06:58] <RoKFiT> ThePub: no i want to make it 50 percent transparent to see the layer behind it partially
[06:58] <darkangel_> well it's the south brige
[06:58] <genii> darkangel Most likely some ESS chipset. You should open your box and look at what ist says on the largest chip there.
[06:58] <max_> can someone give me the lionk to the site that tells you how to add a windows entry to a
[06:58] <max_> Grub
[06:58] <Dr_willis> max_,  an example is in the grub's menu.lst config file
[06:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:59] <ThePub> RoKFiT: in the layers window check out opacity maybe :)
[06:59] <Dr_willis> i normally uncomment it - to put 'windows' at the top grub entry
[06:59] <RoKFiT> thanks
[06:59] <intelikey> eeeek  a massive outage......
[06:59] <genii> darkangel I mean the largest chip on the soundcard, or it may be on the motherboard but it controls the sound, etc
[06:59] <xsacha> goodbye world
[06:59] <max_> !grub
[06:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:59] <intelikey> well when the net splits i think i'll split from it....
[06:59] <RoKFiT> lol ThePub it was there the whole time
[06:59] <RoKFiT> lol
[07:00] <ThePub> there's a difference between being transparent and opaque
[07:00] <Dr_willis> i got parts/joins hidden.. i never see net splits
[07:03] <ThePub> I'll take some cherries on my netsplit!
[07:04] <genii> Well that was exciting
[07:04] <darkangel_> genii what can I do for fix my alsa driver?
[07:05] <RoKFiT> open image as new layer
[07:05] <ThePub> RoKFiT: I'm really in no position to give much advice about GIMP.  Last time I seriously used it the program was competing with MS Paint.  :)
[07:05] <RoKFiT> paste as new layer, HOW!!??!
[07:05] <digitalfreedom> FYI yahoo is back up
[07:05] <ThePub> digitalfreedom: Yahooooooooo for Yahoo!
[07:05] <ThePub> ?
[07:05] <digitalfreedom> hahaha
[07:06] <DennisTT> How do you restart the x server?
[07:06] <genii> darkangel The best thing is to first find what hardware your soundcard is based on. Then when you are sure it is the right chipset, you can choose a module for it, and then add it in to /etc/modules
[07:06] <Hawkwind> DennisTT: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:06] <ThePub> RoKFiT: if you paste something into an image and create a new layer, the floating object becomes a layer.
[07:06] <Hawkwind> DennisTT: killall kdm, telinit3, killall X, many other ways
[07:06] <digitalfreedom> wtf
[07:07] <RoKFiT> oh sweet
[07:07] <RoKFiT> thanks
[07:07] <genii> darkangel i had to do this with an ESS1869 souncard recently
[07:07] <digitalfreedom> mass boot?
[07:07] <ThePub> RoKFiT: now please, do some exploration on your own.
[07:07] <RoKFiT> will do, thank oyu
[07:07] <DennisTT> digitalfreedom: They're restarting the servers
[07:07] <RoKFiT> :D
[07:07] <RoKFiT> you*
[07:07] <digitalfreedom> oh
[07:07] <DennisTT> They announced it earlier today
[07:07] <ThePub> RoKFiT: The GIMP follows many Photoshop-isms.
[07:07] <wes_> ThePub: what do you think of the azureus native code version?
[07:08] <RoKFiT> it didn't with the layer thing
[07:08] <ThePub> wes_: idk, never used it.
[07:08] <ThePub> RoKFiT: depends on the version you're used to I suppose :)
[07:08] <wes_> i have to get sun java to use the regular one right
[07:09] <digitalfreedom> java bleh
[07:09] <ThePub> Never used another java myself.  Sun FTW.
[07:09] <RoKFiT> i will figure it out, but thanks for the help
[07:10] <RoKFiT> how do i change open with file types in system settings?
[07:10] <ThePub> Especially Groovy + Java :)
[07:12] <RoKFiT> i found it
[07:12] <ThePub> yipee.. kmail finally decided to thread my inbox!  :)
[07:12] <digitalfreedom> alright
[07:13] <ThePub> only took a restart of my computer.
[07:13] <darkangel_> genii I foun wich was my sound controller AC97 Audio Controller
[07:14] <ThePub> hmm, is there a setting I'm missing?  kde seems to think there's a panel on my second monitor at the top.  it exapands windows fine, but I'm unable to drag unmaximized windows all the way to the top of the desktop.
[07:15] <DennisTT> Kubuntu runs the hard drive surprisingly quiet
[07:15] <digitalfreedom> my HDD's spin like made
[07:15] <digitalfreedom> they zing all the time
[07:15] <digitalfreedom> mad*
[07:15] <DennisTT> But I don't get why my desktop doesn't "fit" the monitor
[07:16] <DennisTT> it always scrolls like 20px down
[07:16] <ThePub> digitalfreedom: swap is not memory! :D
[07:16] <genii> darkangel OK.. AC97 is only a kind of standard. You still need to find who actually makes it so you know what chips it needs drivers for.
[07:16] <DennisTT> when my mouse is at the bottom
[07:16] <digitalfreedom> i got plenty of ram
[07:16] <DennisTT> and when my mouse goes to the top, it scrolls the whole desktop up 20px
[07:16] <DennisTT> Ok make that like 100 pixels
[07:16] <DennisTT> lol
[07:17] <darkangel_> digitalfreedom I have problems with my sound card
[07:17] <digitalfreedom> chk yer pm's
[07:17] <digitalfreedom> and how to post ppl's names like that?
[07:19] <wes_> azureus says i am using java 1.4.2 which is not compatible - how do i switch to the 'right' java?
[07:20] <digitalfreedom> do a !java and see the pages
[07:20] <digitalfreedom> !java
[07:20] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:20] <digitalfreedom> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[07:21] <genii> darkangel - can you type in sudo lspci and tell me what it says by pasting it to the pastebin?
[07:23] <genii> !pastebin
[07:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <darkangel_> sorry I'm new and I don't understand what exactry do you want me to paste :(
[07:24] <digitalfreedom> da open konsole type lspci
[07:24] <edgy> Hi, I am subscribed to a mailing list via my google account but kmail doesn't bring the message I sent to the list myself thought it brings others messages properly. Is there an option needs to be tweaked in kmail or gmail to bring them?
[07:24] <darkangel_> I did it
[07:24] <digitalfreedom> copy/paste all that
[07:24] <darkangel_> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800CE Host Bridge
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800CE Host Bridge
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800CE Host Bridge
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. PT890 Host Bridge
[07:25] <digitalfreedom> oh god
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800CE Host Bridge
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800CE Host Bridge
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:09.0 Communication controller: Rockwell International HCF 56k Data/Fax/Voice/Spkp (w/Handset) Modem (rev 01)
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
[07:25] <genii> bleh
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
[07:25] <digitalfreedom> big bleh
[07:25] <genii> Please, use the pastebin darkangel
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
[07:25] <abattoir_> darkangel_: please do not paste here
[07:25] <genii> !pastebin
[07:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
[07:25] <notech> lol
[07:26] <darkangel_> 00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
[07:26] <digitalfreedom> lol
[07:26] <darkangel_> 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South] 
[07:26] <darkangel_> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[07:26] <darkangel_> 00:13.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[07:26] <darkangel_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[07:26] <digitalfreedom> just find the audio part
[07:26] <genii> LOL
[07:26] <digitalfreedom> thats all we need
[07:26] <genii> OK I see the relevant part in there
[07:27] <genii> Give me a minute to do some research on it
[07:27] <digitalfreedom> good cause i was laughing so hard i missed it
[07:27] <digitalfreedom> ROFL
[07:27] <notech> should maybe say lspci | grep -i audio next time :)
[07:27] <digitalfreedom> maybe
[07:27] <digitalfreedom> lol
[07:28] <genii-away> yes, my bad
[07:28] <digitalfreedom> its all good tho
[07:29] <prophitinc> need help finding the fstab and mtab files on here
[07:29] <genii> darkangel - You need the via82cxxx module.
[07:29] <digitalfreedom> for fstab just do cat /etc/fstab
[07:29] <prophitinc> says cant mount to second harddrive
[07:29] <digitalfreedom> from the konsole
[07:29] <prophitinc> is that the one i need to change?
[07:30] <digitalfreedom> i dont know thats how you look at it tho
[07:30] <darkangel_> ok how can I get It? :(
[07:30] <prophitinc> i need to mount to another drive
[07:30] <digitalfreedom> google DA is an awsome tool
[07:30] <genii> darkangel - please do a lsmod |grep via82cxxx and put the results in the pastebin - DO NOT CUT AND PASTE THEM HERE
[07:30] <digitalfreedom> no mount from konsole?
[07:30] <genii> !pastebin
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:31] <prophitinc> no from storage media
[07:31] <prophitinc> how would i do that
[07:31] <darkangel_> ok sorry but I'm learning :(
[07:31] <digitalfreedom> yes DA we know its cute really
[07:31] <genii> darkangel Thats OK we were all newbies once
[07:32] <digitalfreedom> i love linux just for this
[07:32] <digitalfreedom> you HAVE to learn and RTFM
[07:32] <digitalfreedom> its gr8
[07:32] <genii> :)
[07:32] <prophitinc> no a harddrive
[07:33] <prophitinc> says cant mount cause couldnt find it in fstab or mtab
[07:33] <prophitinc> i did and i found it
[07:33] <digitalfreedom> ok
[07:33] <digitalfreedom> is it a backup hdd?
[07:33] <genii> darkangel by the way it may not find anything when you do that. If so just say
[07:34] <prophitinc> but still i did this last time and had to change something in the folder but what do i change and where did the folder go
[07:34] <digitalfreedom> im lost
[07:35] <darkangel_> :( ok I got the result but how do I paste it? I opend the window for pasting but It says: Make a correction, what's wrong?
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> i couldnt get to my 2nd hdd and i gave up
[07:35] <DennisTT> How can I install Firefox on Kubuntu?
[07:35] <prophitinc> i cant give up
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> dennis apt-get install firefox
[07:35] <genii> Dennis apt-get update && apt-get install firefox
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> hahaha
[07:35] <notech> prophitinc: where is located in the ide chain?
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> gennii is on top of it
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> genii
[07:36] <prophitinc> what do you mean notech
[07:36] <darkangel_> I have firefox genii
[07:36] <darkangel_> ahh sorry it's for denny
[07:36] <notech> prophitinc: primary master, primary slave, etc
[07:36] <prophitinc> linux is on hdd1 and the drive i need to mount is on hdd0
[07:36] <prophitinc> linux is the secondary drive
[07:37] <genii> proph Thats not another drive.
[07:37] <prophitinc> how do i get to the fstab and mtab folders
[07:37] <prophitinc> sure it is...
[07:37] <notech> lost me. a drive has no partition number unless something changed in kubuntu
[07:37] <digitalfreedom> i told you cat /etc/fstab from konsole
[07:37] <genii> No, if it was hda or hdb or hdc it would ne another dirve
[07:38] <prophitinc> linux is on an 8gb bigfoot and the other drive is an 80gb western digital im sure they are different
[07:38] <genii> hdd1 hdd2 hdd3 etc are all partitions on the same drive
[07:38] <notech> prophitinc: hda is primary master, hdb is primary slave, etc
[07:38] <prophitinc> linux is on hdb and the other is hda
[07:38] <genii> There should not even be a hdd0 since they start at 1
[07:38] <prophitinc> ok gotch now...sorry
[07:38] <notech> and which are you trying to mount?
[07:38] <prophitinc> well i have hdd0 hdd1 hdd3
[07:39] <prophitinc> hdd2
[07:39] <prophitinc> to the 80gb
[07:39] <prophitinc> hda
[07:39] <digitalfreedom> so try mount /dev/dd2
[07:39] <digitalfreedom> hdd2
[07:39] <digitalfreedom> hda w/e
[07:39] <digitalfreedom> i need a drink
[07:39] <prophitinc> will that be a permenant mount?
[07:39] <notech> hdd2 would, should be, the second partition on the secondary slave
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> im giving up
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> im just gonna watch
[07:40] <notech> digitalfreedom: am i wrong?
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> no its not you
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> no no no
[07:40] <notech> heh, ok
[07:40] <genii> darkangel - So anyhow. Something that may help with your sound problem. Open up the file /etc/modules and add to the bottom "via82cxxx"  without the quotes. Next time you boot it will load that module.
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> how do you do that
[07:41] <notech> do what?
[07:41] <digitalfreedom> put ppl's names in front like that
[07:41] <digitalfreedom> its been since i used irc
[07:41] <digitalfreedom> years*
[07:41] <genii> I just type em in :)
[07:41] <notech> in xchat just type the first letter or 2 and hit tab for auto complation
[07:42] <genii> (since I'm somewhat anal)
[07:42] <digitalfreedom> sweet
[07:42] <notech> completion
[07:42] <unix_lappy> evenin'
[07:42] <notech> genii: you type too fast then :)
[07:42] <genii> Yeah sometimes
[07:43] <digitalfreedom> notech: i did it
[07:43] <digitalfreedom> thank you
[07:43] <digitalfreedom> it works in Konversation too
[07:43] <genii> I'm using chatzilla so I dunno if it has those features
[07:43] <notech> digitalfreedom: kewl :)
[07:44] <notech> digitalfreedom: just watch it it when there are several nicks that start the same, it'll get you. sometimes you need to hit tab more than once
[07:45] <digitalfreedom> i noticed that
[07:45] <notech> lol
[07:46] <digitalfreedom> i like using keyboard shortcuts anyway...ppl are like wow when you alt+tab through open windows
[07:46] <digitalfreedom> lol
[07:46] <darkangel_> genii i did it, so what exactly is going to happen when I boot?
[07:47] <digitalfreedom> your computer will melt
[07:47] <digitalfreedom> j/k it should load the module nd you should have sound
[07:47] <digitalfreedom> if that was the problem
[07:47] <genii> darkangel When you boot the module which is for the chipset of your soundcard will be loaded into the kernel. So after you get into KDE the speaker icon should be active
[07:48] <digitalfreedom> yeah what i said
[07:48] <digitalfreedom> lol genii just adds more stuff
[07:48] <genii> darkangel if it does not work first time you may need to specify irq dma and some other stuff in there after. But hopefully it will work first time with defaults
[07:49] <darkangel_> I hope so :( well if not I think I'm going to be here asking you crying for help :(
[07:49] <genii> I'll be around :)
[07:50] <genii> darkangel - before you leave hangon a minute
[07:50] <darkangel_> ok
[07:51] <genii> darkangel - Since you will need to reboot anyhow... when the box powers up go into bios and look up the info about what irq, dma and so on the sound is using (if it is on your motherboard which likely it is). then you will have that handy if it needs to be put in hte /etc/modules
[07:52] <genii> If you need to put that stuff I will be around to help you still
[07:52] <digitalfreedom> im making popocorn
[07:53] <genii> OK again I'll ask about my prob LOL - anyone know how to ssh into a headless machine during a netboot install?
[07:53] <digitalfreedom> 0.o
[07:54] <darkangel_> sorry I don't understand.... If it is not enough my english is not so good but in es chanel anyone helped me, could you tell me again what is going to happen but easier to underderstan please, sorry for be so stupid :(
[07:54] <digitalfreedom> your gonna have sound
[07:54] <notech> how could you? if it's still on install then no ssh server has been started
[07:55] <digitalfreedom> if you dont have sound then come back in here
[07:55] <digitalfreedom> cha cha
[07:56] <darkangel_> ok so I'll reboot my pc and I'll tell you what happened
[07:56] <genii> darkangel - You need to reboot your computer for the change in /etc/modules to take effect. When you reboot, before the computer begins loading, you should hit "del" or "f1" etc to go into the BIOS. In the bios you should try to find where the settings for your onboard devices are. You need to look at what interrupt, DMA and other info it gives about that and then write this down.
[07:57] <genii> notech Well I think there may a couple ways to do this
[07:57] <genii> 1- get a kernel with sshd compiled in
[07:57] <genii> 2 - use a pre-execute sommand to insert it as a module
[07:57] <notech> sshd is a server, don't believe that can be compiled in. not like itts a module
[07:58] <digitalfreedom> very advanced
[07:58] <genii> Well, nfs can be compiled in.
[07:58] <digitalfreedom> !nfs
[07:58] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:59] <digitalfreedom> wow it came up
[07:59] <notech> good point. never heard of it done with sshd, would be interesting
[07:59] <genii> heh :)
[07:59] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me get giFT to connect with apollon?
[08:00] <notech> althhough nfs isn't exactly a server as far as i know
[08:00] <genii> my current prob is I have 2000 systems to netboot and install and thats a *LOT* of keyboards/monitors/mice etc to have laying around to monitor the process
[08:00] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards one is pci other is onboard how do i make my one of them as the default one?
[08:00] <genii> nfsd is a server. debian provides a nfs-kernel but I dunno about ssh-kernel
[08:02] <genii> I was toying with building a custom initrd.gz which would have the proper stuff on it but mkinitrd is such a pain in the ass
[08:03] <digitalfreedom> more sound card stuff
[08:04] <digitalfreedom> wel lyou can disable one or the other i suppose
[08:04] <genii> ajopaul - if you're not using both at once I'd suggest disabling the one on your motherboard
[08:04] <genii> LOL dig
[08:04] <digitalfreedom> lol
[08:04] <digitalfreedom> gr8 minds babe
[08:04] <digitalfreedom> lol
[08:04] <notech> genii: not finding anything on google about a ssh-kernel
[08:04] <genii> damn
[08:05] <RoKFiT> what do i have to do to be able to play wmv's
[08:05] <genii> There is a way intftpd to insert stuff to execute before the installer and preseed stuff goes. I may have to do it somehow this way
[08:05] <genii> more PITA reading howtos etc
[08:06] <prophitinc> anyone know how to get into the root account
[08:06] <genii> yes
[08:06] <digitalfreedom> yep
[08:06] <genii> sudo passwd
[08:06] <prophitinc> sudo
[08:06] <prophitinc> ok
[08:06] <genii> then change it to whatever you like
[08:06] <digitalfreedom> or sudo -u -i root
[08:06] <digitalfreedom> then password
[08:06] <digitalfreedom> or open a root shell
[08:07] <digitalfreedom> and then type rm -r /home
[08:07] <digitalfreedom> MWWAAHAHAHAH
[08:07] <genii> heh
[08:07] <digitalfreedom> no dont type that
[08:07] <notech> shouldn't really do that, noob's don't know any better and will do it before you can say don't
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> i know but i cant resist
[08:08] <genii> you know, onetime by accident I installed a program which needed to be installed as it's user. But I did it as root. In the installer it had somewhere "cd / && rm -R *"
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> i have messed my system up so bad sometimes
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> with one mouse click i dropped the ext3 off
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> and got kernel oanic
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> on the restart
[08:08] <notech> so why have others mess up theirs?
[08:09] <digitalfreedom> when you first get linux its hard
[08:09] <genii> "with great power comes great responsibility"
[08:09] <digitalfreedom> no exe's?
[08:09] <digitalfreedom> hahaha
[08:09] <digitalfreedom> and the most is whats a tarball?
[08:10] <notech> even harder when someone tells you to wipe the /home
[08:10] <Phoenix7477> lol
[08:10] <notech> thankfully you left of the -f
[08:10] <digitalfreedom> yeh i know i feel bad now but he hanst left the chat yet
[08:11] <genii> prophitinc - You should probably not mess with logging in as root. Do everything by sudo
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> i left it out and you just old it
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> told
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> yes duo is best
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> sudo
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> some ppl wil type in anything to see wht happens i know i did
[08:12] <notech> digitalfreedom: true, i did. but wasn't given in a complete command :)
[08:12] <digitalfreedom> i know no thats good too
[08:12] <genii> something interesting: if you login as a regular user then execute rsync by way of sudo the files get transferred into the regular users ownership not root
[08:13] <notech> usually the users that say 'what will that do' are eithher wise or been gotten by a given command before. heh
[08:13] <genii> I found this out the hard way
[08:13] <digitalfreedom> ouch genii
[08:13] <genii> I wonder if darkangel's sound is back on :)
[08:14] <notech> yeah, because even as sudo you are still the user, just given power to run a root command
[08:14] <digitalfreedom> they aint back yet so maybe something happend
[08:14] <notech> probably getting irq's, dma's, i/o addresses of all devices :)
[08:15] <digitalfreedom> hopefully anyway
[08:15] <RoKFiT> ThePub: you here?
[08:15] <RoKFiT> wmv support for kaffeine... does anyone know how?
[08:15] <genii> I wonder if I'll have to walk him through how to navigate his bios... I hope not. This stuff can get tedious
[08:16] <notech> guess i'll go watch Stargate. have a good one.
[08:16] <digitalfreedom> yeah even more when you cant see the screen they are looking at
[08:16] <digitalfreedom> peace NT
[08:16] <genii> yup
[08:16] <digitalfreedom> get the single malt whiskey out genii
[08:17] <genii> I think I'll smoke something instead :)
[08:17] <digitalfreedom> yeah now were talking
[08:17] <digitalfreedom> ganga good windows bad
[08:18] <genii> oh something just occurred to me...about firefox etc
[08:18] <digitalfreedom> its better than IE?
[08:18] <genii> anyone know how to specify to use xmms etc to play a url that starts mms://thisplacewithmusic.example
[08:18] <digitalfreedom> mine does it by default
[08:18] <digitalfreedom> after i installed xmms
[08:18] <genii> right now I'm getting some error about unknown protocol etc
[08:19] <genii> Hmm maybe I'll purge xmms and reinstall it then
[08:20] <genii> My friends do a web radio site but I can't get it on linux right now
[08:20] <digitalfreedom> try eh properties downloads view and edit actions
[08:21] <digitalfreedom> then change action
[08:22] <genii> Hmm maybe I'll do that. The problemmatic url is  mms://69.17.158.118/broadcast   can you get it to play normally? I know he uses windoze stuff as a backend, thought that might be the underlying issue
[08:22] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me play wmv's in kaffeine?
[08:23] <digitalfreedom> take the mms off the url
[08:23] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards one is pci other is onboard how do i make my one of them as the default one?
[08:24] <genii> something about one of them to be soundcard0 but I forget where to set that
[08:26] <digitalfreedom> did we just go over this
[08:26] <digitalfreedom> my movies wont play all the way neither i get the fbi warning and then it stops
[08:27] <genii> Probably some regional settings crap
[08:27] <abattoir_> digitalfreedom: do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[08:27] <DennisTT> Hey
[08:28] <DennisTT> I'm trying to edit my Sharing - System Settings
[08:28] <DennisTT> And it asks me to click on the Administrator mode button
[08:28] <DennisTT> And I click it
[08:28] <DennisTT> And it pops up: Su returned with an error.
[08:28] <DennisTT> What am I supposed to do?
[08:28] <digitalfreedom> no but i just read that on the kaff page AB
[08:28] <digitalfreedom> im getting it now
[08:29] <abattoir> DennisTT: it doesn't prompt you for a password?
[08:29] <DennisTT> Nope it just pops up with "Su returned with an error."
[08:29] <genii> odd that su and not sudo
[08:29] <abattoir> DennisTT: did you modify /etc/sudoers?
[08:30] <DennisTT> Nope
[08:30] <DennisTT> I'm going to restart and see if that fixes it
[08:30] <abattoir> DennisTT: try a sudo command in a terminal
[08:30] <abattoir> DennisTT: you should get a more descripted error
[08:30] <DennisTT> Ok I will in a minute
[08:30] <genii> You may want to try apt-get remove --purge su && apt-get install su
[08:31] <genii> I think it could still be a separate package than sudo
[08:31] <RoKFiT> adept_manager and updater keep closing after i've added a repository
[08:32] <RoKFiT> E: Type 'ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <genii> put deb before it
[08:32] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: it needs a deb
[08:32] <vorpal_> genii: beat me to it
[08:32] <genii> :)
[08:33] <genii> sorry
[08:34] <RoKFiT> Still I get... The APT Database could not be opened!  This may be caused my incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.
[08:34] <genii> try first apt-get update
[08:34] <genii> could be no databse exists yet
[08:34] <RoKFiT> removing the line fixed it
[08:34] <DennisTT> Ok the restart seemed to fix it
[08:35] <DennisTT> Thanks abattoir anyway
[08:35] <RoKFiT> but how can i get kaffeine to play .wmv files?
[08:35] <abattoir> DennisTT: np
[08:35] <abattoir> !codecs | RoKFiT
[08:35] <ubotu> RoKFiT: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:35] <genii> since wmv format is microsoft proprietary I suspect you'll have to wait til someone reverse engineers the codec
[08:35] <abattoir> RoKFiT: follow the links.... unless you use amd64
[08:35] <RoKFiT> i use amd64
[08:36] <abattoir> RoKFiT: oh, then wmv9 doesn't work afaik
[08:36] <digitalfreedom> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[08:36] <digitalfreedom> nice one
[08:36] <RoKFiT> anything else i can use?
[08:36] <MistaED> wmv plays with the latest mplayer and i think vlc, with open source codecs
[08:36] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: install 'build-essential'
[08:36] <RoKFiT> nothing for kaffeine?
[08:36] <_goofy_> im having problem streaming video off a usb hdd any one have a clue
[08:36] <genii> mplayer is likely best bet
[08:36] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: in either adept or through 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[08:36] <RoKFiT> nothing for kaffeine?
[08:37] <abattoir> RoKFiT: i think a 32-bit chroot is the only option
[08:37] <digitalfreedom> awsime
[08:37] <digitalfreedom> ty
[08:37] <genii> RoK you may want to check sourceforge but I'm doubtful
[08:37] <RoKFiT> do i just have to wait?
[08:37] <abattoir> RoKFiT: i've tried both vlc and mplayer, neither play wmv9 stuff for me
[08:37] <RoKFiT> so...
[08:38] <RoKFiT> just wait?
[08:38] <RoKFiT> heh, when will one be released?
[08:38] <abattoir> RoKFiT: wait for what?
[08:38] <RoKFiT> a w32 codec for kaffeine
[08:38] <abattoir> RoKFiT: for microsoft to port it to 64-bit?
[08:38] <genii> You may want to try something like a windows exe codec for wmv that can support the -d (decompress to raw) then execute it in wine
[08:38] <RoKFiT> no to install a plugin for kaffeine to play wmv
[08:39] <abattoir> no wine in 64-bit as well :)
[08:39] <RoKFiT> just a wmv plugin for kaffeine
[08:39] <genii> geez that sucks
[08:39] <vorpal_> abattoir: why would the codec matter if its run on 64 or 32 bit archatecture?
[08:40] <genii> probably because code-base for wine is intel based
[08:40] <abattoir> vorpal_: because those are 32-bit windows binaries
[08:40] <RoKFiT> so my options are mplayer or vlc and none for kaffeine?
[08:41] <genii> RoK I have a minute or 2 here. I'll look around for something if you can hangon
[08:41] <RoKFiT> thanks
[08:41] <RoKFiT> yeah i saw on the forums people use gstreamer
[08:41] <MistaED> where's the multiarch ubuntu support for apt? :P i reckon there should be an option to have amd64 but have 32-bit programs where it is really needed like codecs/browsers for flash, etc.
[08:41] <RoKFiT> i don't want to do anything illegal though
[08:42] <abattoir> MistaED: they are waiting for dpkg(hence debian) to get it from the ground up
[08:42] <RoKFiT> kaffeine-gstreamer, but i couldn't find it
[08:42] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: are you in the US?
[08:42] <RoKFiT> yes
[08:42] <MistaED> abattoir: ok so in 20 years? cool
[08:42] <MistaED> :)
[08:42] <abattoir> MistaED: hehe
[08:42] <abattoir> MistaED: i heard working is starting after etch(??) is released
[08:42] <abattoir> (hear-say stuff though)
[08:42] <RoKFiT> why vorpal
[08:42] <digitalfreedom> damn it
[08:42] <vorpal_> from what i hear it will be illeagal here is aus too
[08:42] <digitalfreedom> nothing but the warning
[08:43] <vorpal_> cause the US has stupid IP laws that makes everything illegal
[08:43] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: which warning?
[08:43] <vorpal_> (slight exageration)
[08:43] <digitalfreedom> the movie awarning
[08:43] <RoKFiT> yeah i figured using microsoft codecs would be
[08:43] <digitalfreedom> i gt 15 sedonds of video from the dvd then nothing
[08:44] <digitalfreedom> seconds
[08:44] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: you installed libdvdcss?
[08:44] <digitalfreedom> yes
[08:44] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: do you have libdvdread3, libdvdnav4 ?
[08:44] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: it might not be. I know some of the non-free stuff is but i don't know which bits
[08:44] <digitalfreedom> libdvdcss-1.2.9.tar.gz
[08:44] <genii> RoK - There seems to be something useful here about it http://flavor8.com/index.php/2005/10/22/wmv-codecs-for-mplayer-linux/
[08:44] <RoKFiT> it'd just be nice to use 1 player like kaffeine
[08:45] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: ok, do as i say
[08:45] <genii> but your mileage may vary
[08:45] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: make sure you have the universe and multiverse repos enabled...
[08:45] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: do you have them?
[08:45] <digitalfreedom> not yet
[08:45] <digitalfreedom> but im working on it
[08:46] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: ok, once you have them enabled, search for libdvdread and libdvdnav
[08:46] <digitalfreedom> i just get no menu is all
[08:46] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: install those two packages
[08:46] <RoKFiT> genii: anything for kaffeine?
[08:47] <genii> Nah looks mplayer centric
[08:47] <genii> gimme a minute tho and I'll look
[08:47] <abattoir> RoKFiT: tell me if you find a working solution :P
[08:47] <DennisTT> hmmm
[08:48] <abattoir> (apart from a chroot, i.e)
[08:48] <RoKFiT> what is a chroot
[08:48] <DennisTT> What's the username/password to login to samba
[08:48] <DennisTT> from another computer
[08:48] <RoKFiT> abattoir: what is a chroot
[08:48] <genii> RoK according to kaffeine FAQ on their homepage at sourceforge:
[08:48] <genii> 4. How can i play WMV/Quicktime/Real Media files?
[08:48] <genii> Again: Download the latest win32 codecpack from www.mplayerhq.hu and copy all files to /usr/lib/win32.
[08:49] <abattoir> RoKFiT: it's like running a 'mini 32-bit' version... you change root into that to run 32-bit stuff
[08:49] <abattoir> !chroot | RoKFiT
[08:49] <ubotu> RoKFiT: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:49] <DennisTT> Oh and how do I change the workgroup of the samba server?
[08:49] <genii> !xen
[08:49] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[08:50] <genii> dennis edit the smbd.conf file
[08:51] <RoKFiT> genii, where is the win32 download located on the page
[08:51] <genii> I'm not sure but it shouldn't be too hidden
[08:51] <RoKFiT> wait, i found it
[08:51] <genii> lemme look LOL
[08:51] <genii> Ah good
[08:51] <RoKFiT> lol
[08:51] <DennisTT> genii: where's the smbd.conf file located?
[08:52] <genii> deniis usually in either /etc or /etc/samba
[08:53] <DennisTT> Thanks genii
[08:53] <genii> Sorry may be named smb.conf not smbd.conf
[08:53] <genii> <- my bad
[08:54] <DennisTT> Yeah it was, no worries I found it
[08:54] <RoKFiT> i can't create a win32 folder
[08:54] <genii> dennis There is an extensive man page for smb.conf with all the things you can set also
[08:54] <genii> RoK You need to do it with sudo mkdir    and so on
[08:55] <RoKFiT> just did
[08:55] <RoKFiT> see this is why i want to run as root
[08:55] <RoKFiT> that kind of work is annoying
[08:55] <genii> LOL
[08:55] <genii> But it constantly reminds you of why it's neccesary
[08:55] <RoKFiT> still no wmv video in kaffeine with that mod genii
[08:56] <RoKFiT> audio though
[08:56] <genii> Interesting
[08:56] <genii> RoK I'm out of ideas ATM now
[08:56] <RoKFiT> vlc works
[08:57] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: before i reinstalled i'm pretty sure i could play wmv in kaffiene, so it can be done
[08:57] <RoKFiT> maybe if i switch the codec to mplayer in kaffeine
[08:58] <genii> I need to go get a coffee. If darkangel returns please let him know I'll be back in about 5-10 minutes
[08:59] <vorpal_> genii: bring me back a mug of caffiene too thanks
[08:59] <vorpal_> black no sugar
[08:59] <RoKFiT> ah shoot now kaffeine isn't playing regular avis
[09:00] <RoKFiT> what did i do?
[09:00] <RoKFiT> i switched to mplayer encoder then switched back to kaffeine and now it's not playing
[09:01] <RoKFiT> oh yeah it is
[09:01] <RoKFiT> sorry
[09:01] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: lol
[09:01] <vorpal_> what was wrong?
[09:01] <RoKFiT> idk i had to switch tabs
[09:01] <RoKFiT> i was on the right tab, but switching tabs worked
[09:02] <prophitinc> notech i know the drive now its hdb1 thats what i want to mount to...how do i do that
[09:02] <Zamber>  how to disable that circle-baloon-whatever tootlips in the bottom bar?
[09:03] <RoKFiT> unlock panel, configure panel,...
[09:03] <prophitinc> can anyone help me mount to hdb1?
[09:04] <RoKFiT> no it's in system settings, appearance
[09:04] <vorpal_> prophitinc: what do you want to do?
[09:05] <prophitinc> i want to mount to my 80g windows harddrive to get my files
[09:05] <prophitinc> and save things there if i can
[09:05] <prophitinc> its hdb1
[09:05] <prophitinc> i know i have to do something like mkdir or whatever
[09:05] <vorpal_> do you know if it's ntfs or fat32?
[09:06] <prophitinc> yes ntfs
[09:07] <vorpal_> sudo mkdir <somedirectory>
[09:07] <vorpal_> depends where you want it to mount
[09:07] <vorpal_> may not need sudo depending on where you choose
[09:07] <prophitinc> does it matter where i mount it?
[09:07] <vorpal_> not really
[09:08] <vorpal_> then
[09:08] <flaccid> mount it in /media or /mnt
[09:09] <vorpal_> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /<yourdirectory>
[09:09] <vorpal_> no wait a second
[09:09] <vorpal_> you probably want to mount it read only
[09:09] <vorpal_> genii: :)
[09:09] <flaccid> !ntfs
[09:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:10] <prophitinc> ok
[09:10] <flaccid> ^^ has correct options and masks for ntfs,fat etc
[09:11] <vorpal_> sudo mount -t ntfs -r /dev/hdb1 /<yourdirectory>
[09:11] <vorpal_> i think that should work
[09:11] <vorpal_> prophitinc: make sure you don't write to it or you could seriously fuck it up
[09:12] <genii> yeah ntfs write support is still messed
[09:12] <prophitinc> ok...lol
[09:12] <RoKFiT> bbl
[09:14] <flaccid> use the mask on the help page
[09:27] <ubuntu> hi all ! I have a probem with the arts daemon. When i log in, my computer stops responding for a while, and the arts daemon is using 90% of my CPU usage. Can someone help me ? (I use KUBUNTU Edgy with kde 3.5.5)
[09:30] <vorpal_> ubuntu: is it a fresh install?
[09:30] <ubuntu> yes
[09:30] <llutz> Moin
[09:31] <ubuntu> now i am running from the livecd
[09:31] <ubuntu> and i have the same problem
[09:35] <ubuntu> and other question: I have a Nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000 ; what i must install to have 3d acceleration ( nvidia-glx, or i have to use the nvidia installer )?
[09:41] <sparr> Just encountered the debian mailing list posting from ten years ago where someone pointed out that bashisms are a problem when using another provider of sh.  Always interesting how problems like this seem inconsequential to people with no forward vision.
[09:44] <Linux_Galore> cool just hacked the suse menu (kickoff) onto my kubuntu install
[09:45] <Linux_Galore> Im just hacking some of the eye candy bugs out
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> is very responsive, allot better than kbfx
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> its*
[09:46] <vorpal_> !kickoff
[09:46] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> yeah www.kde-apps.org has a .deb  for kubuntu
[10:01] <flaccid> i can't find kick off on kde-apps
[10:04] <aleksanteri> what's the root password by default?
[10:06] <Zamber> man sudo
[10:07] <flaccid> no root pass
[10:09] <aleksanteri> thx
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: you wont, its replaces the normal kde menu
[10:11] <flaccid> i found it there 102mb
[10:11] <flaccid> oh they omitted it from serach heh
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: just start the normal kde menu in the applets, logout or restart kicker
[10:11] <flaccid> i aint got the bandwidth to d/l it yet dang
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> I had to edit the kmenu.png and the kmenu_basic.mng file
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> wrong size icon
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> I kicked the kbfx menu icons I was using
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> nicked*
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> used gimp to convert one of the png kbfx icon themes to kmenu_basic.mng
[10:25] <digitalfreedom> hi
[10:26] <aleksanteri> i don't remember which kubuntu version have i got (6.06 or 6.10), how can i get it?
[10:26] <llutz> cat /etc/issue
[10:27] <aleksanteri> ok it's 6.06, thx
[10:28] <digitalfreedom> anyone know anyfree ebooks ob cli?
[10:28] <digitalfreedom> on cli?
[10:29] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: are you looking for intro to cli basics?
[10:29] <digitalfreedom> something like that..
[10:29] <fdoving> !cli
[10:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:29] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: check the links @ http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/ <- Linux/Command Line
[10:29] <digitalfreedom> awsome
[10:29] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: check out linux/command line as well as misc/online books free and linux/various
[10:30] <digitalfreedom> kewl guys thanx..i need mostly network commands netcat..finger whios stuff like that
[10:31] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: all that and more =)
[10:31] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: yw
[10:31] <digitalfreedom> but im going to make it my goal to be a CLI guru
[10:31] <digitalfreedom> thats a good goal right?
[10:31] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: indeed
[10:31] <digitalfreedom> yeah i gave up o nthe underware model career
[10:31] <digitalfreedom> lol
[10:34] <digitalfreedom> call me a throwback but i like reading actual paper books...
[10:34] <digitalfreedom> ok another question im viewing a man page now and how do esc back to cli
[10:35] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: hit the q key?
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> beau@beau-desktop:~$ man mkdir
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> Reformatting mkdir(1), please wait..
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> is that bad?
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> i hit q b4 you posted and i got that
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> should i call an ambulance?
[10:36] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: there are some good beginner tutorials @ linux.org as well as other places, check the links on my site
[10:42] <digitalfreedom> found a gr8 and im gonna shre the link
[10:42] <digitalfreedom> http://www.hackemate.com.ar/textos/Linux/Linux Complete Command Reference/Linux Complete Command Reference.pdf
[10:47] <flaccid> !openvpn
[10:47] <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7-1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 948 kB
[10:58] <boud> Morning. Does anyone know where the krandr resize and rotate tray applet has gone in edgy?
[10:59] <jasin> hi
[11:05] <vorpal_> !krandr
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krandr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Linux_Galore> vorpal_: pfft that wont answer his question
[11:06] <vorpal_> Linux_Galore: i had no idea what it was
[11:06] <vorpal_> i was seeing if it did
[11:06] <Linux_Galore> boud: its an image resize tool
[11:06] <vorpal_> cause i was curious
[11:06] <jasin> hmmm
[11:07] <boud> Linux_Galore: no, it for dynamically setting the resolution and rotation of your screen
[11:07] <boud> using the xrandr protocol
[11:07] <Linux_Galore> boud: I know
[11:08] <boud> Linux_Galore: ok
[11:08] <FreddyM> how can i set Konqueror to have middle click close a tab
[11:08] <boud> Linux_Galore: I'm going to give a presentation today and I used to use it before to set the resolution to the beamer's resolution.
[11:09] <boud> Of course, I can use the command-line utilty xrandr, but I was a comfortable little applet.
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> boud: its in the utilities section under the main menu
[11:12] <boud> Linux_Galore: that's where I looked, but it isn't there, and I cannot find it in adept_manager either.
[11:12] <Linux_Galore> boud: it is for me
[11:12] <Linux_Galore> boud: just run krand in a terminal
[11:13] <Linux_Galore> boud: so you dont have it installed yet ?
[11:13] <FreddyM> !konqueror
[11:13] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5280 kB
[11:14] <boud> Linux_Galore: apparently I had it installed, because from the commandline it worked. Thanks!
[11:14] <Linux_Galore> boud: I dare say its not in your main menu yet because kicker hansnt refreshed
[11:14] <boud> Linux_Galore: that's possible.
[11:15] <genii> !gizmo
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <Linux_Galore> boud: also doesnt help that Ive updated my main menu to kickoff so thing are a bit different
[11:15] <genii> !gizmoproject
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmoproject - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <genii> hmm
[11:16] <Linux_Galore> genii: its like skype
[11:16] <Linux_Galore> but uses open standards
[11:16] <genii> Yes I know, I have it installed :)
[11:16] <genii> And patched into an esterisk box actually
[11:16] <Linux_Galore> genii: its also closed source so wont be listed
[11:16] <genii> asterisk
[11:17] <aleksanteri> !firefox
[11:17] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:17] <aleksanteri> :P
[11:17] <aleksanteri> !opera
[11:17] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[11:17] <genii> hmm I thought it was open
[11:17] <aleksanteri> ^_^
[11:17] <Linux_Galore> it isnt
[11:17] <aleksanteri> no it isn't
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> thats why no one installed opera by default
[11:18] <ubuntu> salut  tous
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> installs*
[11:18] <aleksanteri> :|
[11:18] <aleksanteri> i really should ask them why
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> aleksanteri: because opera is now moving to the portable market
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> ie mobile phones
[11:19] <ubuntu> y a t'il une persone francophone qui peut m'aider s.v.p merci
[11:20] <genii> !conexant
[11:20] <genii> LOL
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conexant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <jasin> firefox was not default on my system knqueror was.
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> they should but kickoff as the new default menu in kubuntu, it makes kbfx look clunky
[11:20] <aleksanteri> Linux_Galore: ok
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> jasin: thats because ff is gtk
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> jasin: kde isnt
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> sorry konqueror isnt
[11:21] <Linux_Galore> konqueror uses qt like the whole of kde
[11:21] <FreddyM> !fr | ubuntu
[11:21] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:21] <jasin> kde? i'm runing kubuntu
[11:22] <jasin> konqueror was default
[11:22] <Linux_Galore> jasin: k = kde in kubuntu
[11:22] <FreddyM> jasin: KDE is the Desktop Envirement
[11:22] <jasin> yes, I'm aware of that
[11:22] <aleksanteri> K Desktop Enviroment
[11:22] <FreddyM> ah okay
[11:22] <aleksanteri> that's where the name comes from
[11:22] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu uses the gnome desktop based on gtk
[11:22] <jasin> I know what kde is
[11:23] <jasin> kubuntu usses kde
[11:23] <B-Minus> nice
[11:23] <jasin> I prefer kde
[11:23] <genii> CDE = Common Desktop Environment  KDE = pun
[11:24] <Linux_Galore> genii: CDE is different
[11:24] <genii> Yes I know. But they modelled KDE after it
[11:25] <aleksanteri> lol
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> genii: to some degree yes. bit like saying Linux is based on Unix, it is to some degree but isnt any more
[11:25] <gposabella> hi there
[11:26] <genii> Well, yes, they are wildly divergent these days :)
[11:26] <Linux_Galore> genii: yeah, edgy killed the init startup
[11:26] <Linux_Galore> genii: thank god for that
[11:26] <gposabella> please, where is the inittab in Edgy ?
[11:26] <dannybuntu> test
[11:27] <genii> Linux is only modelled on Unix as much as Minix was... they do not share a common core tho. *BSD of course has it's more truer unix roots
[11:27] <Linux_Galore> genii: Linus removed all the minix code years ago
[11:28] <jasin> "KDE" stands for "the K Desktop Environment".
[11:28] <jasin> The "K" did indeed stand for "Kool" for a brief period of time back when the earth was warm and dinosaurs terrorized Ringo Starr.
[11:28] <genii> jasin Yes. The K does not stand for a longer word
[11:28] <genii> heh
[11:28] <Linux_Galore> here I was thinking is stood for krap :-P
[11:28] <jasin> In October 1996, Matthias Ettrich posted a message asking for help creating a desktop for his girlfriend which he called the "Kool Desktop Environment", mostly as a pun on CDE (the Common Desktop Environment).
[11:29] <Linux_Galore> s/is/it/
[11:29] <lm_> hey there can anybody tell me, why the **** my xp machine still asks for a username and pass, even thought my shared folder is public?
[11:29] <lm_> i just dont get it
[11:29] <jasin> kde i smuch better then gnome
[11:29] <jasin> kde is much better then gnome
[11:29] <genii> I actually prefer gnome
[11:29] <Linux_Galore> lm_: whats XP
[11:29] <jasin> lol
[11:29] <lm_> windows xp
[11:29] <aleksanteri> dead smiley
[11:29] <digitalfreedom> whats windows?
[11:29] <lm_> lol
[11:29] <aleksanteri> lol
[11:29] <Linux_Galore> lm_: you have a window called XP ?
[11:30] <lm_> comon...be seriously :D
[11:30] <lm_> nope
[11:30] <lm_> its called ibm
[11:30] <digitalfreedom> lol
[11:30] <digitalfreedom> o.0
[11:30] <aleksanteri> Windows XP (dead smiley :P )
[11:30] <lm_> hehe
[11:30] <genii> lm_ you are trying to access a shared folder on your windoze box from an ubuntu machine?
[11:30] <Linux_Galore> lm_: I wouldnnt have a clue, I havent used a crashware Microsoft program in 9 years
[11:30] <lm_> genii: nope the other way around
[11:30] <digitalfreedom> crashware YEEEHAAAAAA
[11:31] <lm_> genii: trying to acces my home folder on my kubuntu box
[11:31] <jasin> linux is not uncrashable
[11:31] <Linux_Galore> jasin: neigther is a T-72 tank, so
[11:31] <jasin> linux is actually quit easy to crash
[11:31] <Linux_Galore> jasin: neither is a T-72 tank, so
[11:31] <Linux_Galore> grr
[11:31] <jasin> linux is actually quit easy to crash
[11:31] <lm_> digitalfreedom: at least, windows lets me share my folders prperly and withot problems
[11:32] <digitalfreedom> lnux lets me too
[11:32] <digilux> hey
[11:32] <genii> lm_ the login name you use for windows login is what gets passed to the samba so it it isn't the username on the ubuntu box it will fail auth and ask you again
[11:32] <lm_> digitalfreedom: hmmm... i guess linux favors you
[11:32] <Linux_Galore> lm_: actually I share files between machines all the time, I can start a random ftp file share in 4 seconds
[11:32] <digilux> where: Metamorfozis ???
[11:32] <digilux> XD
[11:32] <digitalfreedom> because i let go of windoze for stable reliabe bug free os
[11:32] <Linux_Galore> lm_: theres even a simple share applet in kde, but you dont know that because your stuck in winsuck land
[11:33] <digitalfreedom> you just have to RTFM with liux its not the lazy mans OS windoze
[11:33] <jasin> linux just dont crash on a daily bases like windows does, but it is crashable, its actually quit easy to crash linux.
[11:33] <genii> lm_  you can set in the smb.conf something which I think is "guest ok = yes" or similar which will override it
[11:33] <Linux_Galore> jasin: I havent crashed a linux machine in months
[11:33] <lm_> genii: ....what? so you meani should login with the user and pass i use to login on my windows box?
[11:34] <lm_> oh ok
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> jasin: you can crash Linux but only if you do something really dumb as root
[11:34] <digitalfreedom> yeah like i did once when i eleted my ext3 off the drive
[11:34] <digitalfreedom> deleted
[11:34] <digitalfreedom> single malt whiskey is good
[11:35] <digitalfreedom> but it sometimes impeded the typing skillz
[11:35] <digitalfreedom> and vision
[11:35] <genii> lm_ No. What I'm saying is if you have a folder on the samba box whose files are owned by "george" but you default login to windows as "administrator" the XP box tries to auth as "administrator" to the samba server to get files owned by "george". So it fails then asks you for the user and password again
[11:35] <digitalfreedom> hardyar
[11:36] <Linux_Galore> yeah, the problem with windows is it keeps shifting how it uses smb on every update, why cant Microsoft just stick to one method instead of adding layers of BS that stuff it all up
[11:36] <digitalfreedom> one of the gr8 unanswerale questions of the universe
[11:37] <Linux_Galore> I have zero issues with samba and the Linux desktops at work, but god help me every time a XP machine updates it cant find samba
[11:37] <digitalfreedom> i know how to fix your problem lm sudo to root then type rm -r /home then look away
[11:38] <genii> lm_ Anyhow there are a *LOT* of options for smb.conf which can be seen with man smb.conf   One of them is to allow guest access which is likely what you want.
[11:38] <digitalfreedom> znd throw in -f oo
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> anway, as of last week all the XP machines got formated into hell
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> anyway*
[11:38] <digitalfreedom> anowho
[11:38] <digitalfreedom> anywho*
[11:39] <lm_> genii: thanks alot ill try my way trough this
[11:39] <genii> lm_ break a leg :)
[11:39] <digitalfreedom> or a keyboard
[11:39] <genii> heh
[11:40] <jasin> The Synaptics TouchPad driver for linux crashes many distros. It'll crash the system is bad that'll it'll break the kernel.
[11:40] <digitalfreedom> anyone here read the book The Heretic?
[11:40] <genii> also you can purposely set a null password for a samba user with smbpasswd -n username
[11:41] <jasin> linux is not crash proof.
[11:41] <llutz> jasin: never had any trouble with xorg-driver-synaptics in any distro
[11:41] <genii> but it has better airbags
[11:42] <jasin> I have, with ubuntu and fedora.
[11:42] <llutz> jasin: not with knoppix, kanotix, dapper, edgy, grml
[11:42] <digitalfreedom> apps might crash but not the whole system
[11:42] <digitalfreedom> no blue screen hell or memory dumps
[11:43] <genii> no just the occasional core dump :)
[11:43] <genii> LOL
[11:43] <digitalfreedom> lol
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> I havent had a core dum in 2 years
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> dump*
[11:43] <jasin> digtal, a kernel panic is basically the entire system going down.
[11:43] <digitalfreedom> better se a doc for that man
[11:43] <digitalfreedom> sounds painfull
[11:43] <digitalfreedom> ROFL
[11:43] <jasin> digtal, i got those all the time in redhat.
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> usually I find core dumps are due to beta code
[11:43] <genii> I think the last core dump I had was on a freebsd 4.8 box
[11:44] <genii> more often it's "kernel panic" this or that
[11:44] <digitalfreedom> tried to kill init process
[11:44] <digitalfreedom> lol
[11:44] <Linux_Galore> yeah I used to  have kernel panics in the old 2.4 days but you shouldnt have them now
[11:45] <vlad92> i have a Genius eye 311Q webcam; how can i use it on Kubuntu (i don`t find any drivers) ?
[11:45] <jasin> most of the time when i got a kernel panic it would either kill the entire system or it'd kick me back to lilo.
[11:45] <Linux_Galore> vlad92: did you look it up on www.google.com/linux
[11:45] <genii> I would get total system freeze with all keyboard lights goin
[11:45] <jasin> linux, yeah, there what .. s11's now?
[11:46] <vlad92> no
[11:47] <vlad92> i didn`t know this site
[11:47] <vlad92> thanks
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> vlad92: there are over 2-3 million devices you can plug into a PC, so best to check on www.google.com/linux first
[11:49] <jasin> linux is not the most stable os but i still prefer it to windows.
[11:49] <jasin> windows is just crap.
[11:50] <Admiral_Chicago> jasin: linux has been a lot more stable for me than Windows
[11:50] <Admiral_Chicago> or at least that's my experience
[11:51] <jasin> admiral, dos is more stable then windows lol
[11:51] <digitalfreedom> one time in computer camp i fingered myself
[11:51] <digitalfreedom> hahahahaha
[11:51] <jasin> admiral, so that aint saying much
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yea.
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> the only times my system breaks is when I fiddle around with it too much
[11:52] <jasin> I would get swap space ussage after booting the system in windows.
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> and thats really my own fault
[11:52] <digitalfreedom> nobody likes jokes around jokes here?
[11:52] <jasin> I've never use swap space in linux.
[11:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i rarely use it too
[11:53] <Lynoure> I use it a lot, I like hibernation :)
[11:54] <jasin> linux is very good with memory management
[11:56] <jasin> windows is a freakin memory hog and the more you install the biger bottle neck you create.
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> !mount
[11:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:57] <jasin> I use partition magic myself.
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone guide me on mounting a ext3 partition on a liveCD
[11:58] <genii> bloat: win3.11=5 floppy disks win95=~100Mb win98=~400Mb XP=~1G
[11:58] <jasin> genii, i had 2 gigabytes in xp and it was slow as hell.
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago>   oh wait i know how to do it
[11:59] <jasin> genii, linux is super fast with 2 gigabytes.
[11:59] <genii> yup
[11:59] <genii> I have some p2400 here with 192Mb and 6G hd and they run dapper no problemmo
[11:59] <genii> p2-400Mhz to clarify
[11:59] <jasin> unlike with windows, i can specific in the kernel how much memory is in my system.
[11:59] <llutz> genii: first slackware i got = 50 3.5" floppy disks :(
[12:00] <genii> cpm/80=800K 5 1/4"
[12:01] <jasin> I used rehat, and fedora, for many years. Now I use exclusivly a debian based distro; ubuntu is my favorite.
[12:01] <genii> 1 5 1/4" to boot 1 5 1/4" to run a word processor from
[12:01] <Linux_Galore> jasin: bet you have office installed, when you install Office it pre loads a huge lib in the background, sucks up all your ram
[12:01] <llutz> genii: yeah, the old times.... :)
[12:01] <jasin> I used redhat and ultamently fedora, for many years. Now I use exclusivly a debian based distro; ubuntu is my favorite.
[12:01] <mc__> debian is the best
[12:02] <Linux_Galore> jasin: so windows uses 60mb+ of ram even though you dont even use office for that session
[12:02] <jasin> linux_galore, i use abiword, nothing else.
[12:02] <jasin> linux_galore, i wont use an office suite
[12:02] <Linux_Galore> jasin: you dont have to use office for it to suck up the ram, office pre loads when you boot
[12:03] <jasin> linux, not on my system it dont :)
[12:03] <Linux_Galore> jasin: unless you hack the registry is always pre loads
[12:03] <Linux_Galore> it*
[12:04] <genii> mc__ Well ubuntu is of debian heritage :) But for the hardcore I'd say pure debian is the way
[12:04] <Linux_Galore> jasin: OpenOffice has a pre loader too called oooqs, makes it open super fast when you click on a file
[12:04] <genii> jasin I think he's talking about M$ windoze
[12:04] <Linux_Galore> jasin: but unlike office , its optional
[12:05] <malc_> I installed nvidia drivers and graphics work fine (apart from videos).  But since then the keyboard shortcuts for Amarok don't work (ie WindowsKey + B for next song) can anyone help?
[12:05] <jasin> linux, I dont use open office
[12:05] <Linux_Galore> genii: lol, like one would bother running M$ office in Linux
[12:05] <genii> Xandros is working on that with CodeWeavers
[12:05] <Linux_Galore> jasin: so you never open a doc file
[12:06] <Linux_Galore> genii: Ive got codeweavers at work, office XP works fine with it under Linux
[12:06] <jasin> linux, yep i do, in abiword.
[12:07] <Linux_Galore> jasin: abiword it gtk and render like crap
[12:07] <Linux_Galore> is*
[12:07] <jasin> linux, yep i do, in abiword or on the windows machine.
[12:07] <jasin> abiword works fine for me.
[12:07] <mc__> genii: i think debian is still better for servers
[12:07] <mc__> genii: debian stable of course
[12:07] <Linux_Galore> jasin: gtk looks like rubbish in windows
[12:07] <jasin> no problems whatsoever
[12:08] <mc__> genii: and sid is nice for the bleeding edge guys
[12:08] <genii> mc__ for the hardcore serving I'm somewhat divided between freeBSD and Debian
[12:08] <jasin> thats fine, you use what you like.
[12:08] <mc__> genii: FreeBSD has jails,they really rock
[12:09] <genii> mc__ Right now at work we use a debian based machine with a bunch of virtual servers, some are FreeBSD
[12:09] <genii> previously we used sunos
[12:10] <genii> We are switching entirely to debian but we have legacy stuff that runs only on the old bsd boxen for now
[12:10] <Linux_Galore> genii: you would love Nexenta, Open Solaris with Ubuntu packages. even has apt-get
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> genii: Ive got Nexenta on a machine because I want to play with ZFS
[12:11] <genii> Isn't solaris10 free now ?
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> genii: opensolaris is
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> genii: solaris is the comercial arm
[12:12] <aspedia> I want to secure apache -site with htaccess. Im using htpasswd2- the file is created , apache is restarted but when I get the site then there is no auth. Apache is not executing .htaccess
[12:12] <aspedia> what is missing or wrong?
[12:12] <aspedia> can someon help?
[12:12] <genii> Yeah we got licences with our Sunfire boxes we never used. We ended up with amd64 debian
[12:13] <Linux_Galore> genii: why ??, just swap to OpenSolaris, Debian amd64 port is rubbish
[12:13] <genii> aspedia I suspect you need to set up an entry for it in apache2.conf (or equivelent)
[12:14] <jasin> linux_galore, dont like anything lol
[12:14] <jasin> linux_galore dont like anything lol
[12:14] <Linux_Galore> jasin: no, right tool for the right job
[12:14] <mc__> genii: what virtualisation are you using?
[12:14] <aspedia> what for an entry
[12:15] <genii> Some ppl are fussy :) Or perhaps "discerning" is more politically correct
[12:15] <aspedia> ?
[12:15] <jasin> genii, thats obvious hehe
[12:15] <jasin> linux_galore yeah sure, whatever.
[12:16] <Linux_Galore> jasin: Sun run solaris on there "enterprise servers" with AMD64 cpu's
[12:16] <genii> aspedia First you need to put that .htaccess file in the directory you are trying to protect. Then usually in the virtual servers or Aliases section of the apache conf files you make an entry which has an appropriate line to use the .htaccess file.
[12:16] <Linux_Galore> jasin: not if you want to risk you company on a few hackers from Debian who dont get paid, go for it
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> s/not/now/
[12:17] <genii> mc__ we are using Xen
[12:17] <jasin> bs, anything connected to an open network like the internet -- is hackable.
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> jasin: your missing the point, this isnt a security issue
[12:18] <mc__> genii: Xen is nice,but i prefer OpenVZ
[12:18] <genii> aspedia http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/htaccess.html
[12:19] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: What? Most ubuntu developers do not get paid either.
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: yes but many do
[12:19] <jasin> nothing connected to the internet is 100% secure.
[12:19] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: How many?
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: your answering my question for me
[12:19] <jasin> Nothing!
[12:20] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: I was under impression that just a handful.
[12:20] <genii> Yeah our X2100 came with opterons (165 I think)
[12:20] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: and debian has fewer
[12:20] <crimsun> Linux_Galore: "many" is roughly a dozen.
[12:20] <heinkel_111> hello..i have a problem with almost all my kde applications, they seem to crash at shutdown with a SIGSEGV erorr message
[12:20] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: It's still ugly to imply that means using debian is dangerous
[12:20] <heinkel_111> i cannot figure out what is broken
[12:21] <heinkel_111> it is maybe some of my kde settings files which needs replacing?
[12:21] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: no but if Im a Solaris shop and my hardware is solaris freindly last thing I would do is swap to Debian
[12:21] <genii> heinkel You should run memtest
[12:21] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: s/debian/linux ?
[12:21] <heinkel_111> can i run that from konsole?
[12:21] <heinkel_111> genii?
[12:21] <jasin> its probably not his memory.
[12:22] <genii> segment faults are usually some mem prob
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: why would I swap from an OS with zero issues to a maybe has no issues OS
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: considering both are open source now
[12:23] <genii> heinkel No, not from konsole. You need to select it at boot time by hitting TAB key when grub starts. Then you choose it from there to boot up to. It will scan your ram to see if it has a problem.
[12:23] <jasin> Their  usually an Abnormal termination of some process
[12:24] <heinkel_111> thank you genii
[12:24] <genii> If the memory goes through 5 or 6 passes of memtest without problem then it is indicating software
[12:24] <heinkel_111> ok
[12:24] <heinkel_111> will run then
[12:24] <genii> if it does not pass memtes, replace your ram
[12:24] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: I could not find the OpenSolaris bug database on a quick googling, so I cannot verify it having zero issues. But oh well.
[12:24] <emiliano75> buongiorno a tutti
[12:25] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: were talking AMD64 Sun stuff, issues would be near and far on hardware
[12:25] <xpapiez> hi je tu nekdo?
[12:25] <xpapiez> Hi all, is anybody here?
[12:25] <emiliano75> i have a problem with kaffeine and video files..... video jump
[12:26] <emiliano75> how can resolve this problem?
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> emiliano75: use mplayer
[12:26] <jasin> Open solaris bugs: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=11
[12:26] <emiliano75> ok, i try... thanks :-)
[12:26] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: Thank for keeping close track on it :)
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> emiliano75: I recompiled kaffeine to support mplayer as the engine
[12:27] <genii> heinkel If memtest passes your ram return here for other help
[12:27] <jasin> opensolaris-bugs Archives: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-bugs/
[12:27] <xpapiez> I have ntb and new system - it is ubuntu. I want to have ne kernel
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> emiliano75: when I get video play issues I just swap to the mplayer engine in kaffeine and it seems to fix it
[12:27] <xpapiez> the latest kernel has modules which i need to run DVB-T and my camera
[12:27] <xpapiez> is any there who is able to set up .config?
[12:28] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: of course their will be bug in opensolaris its now having to sun on a mixed bag of hardware, in this case its Solaris spec hardware
[12:29] <Linux_Galore> run*
[12:29] <xpapiez> please help me
[12:30] <mindspin> xpapiez: waht do you want?
[12:30] <xpapiez> set up .config from the latest kernel
[12:31] <xpapiez> I really do not know what I need
[12:31] <mindspin> you want to compile your own ?
[12:31] <xpapiez> yes
[12:31] <mindspin> any reasons for it?
[12:32] <xpapiez> there is module for my DVB-T, camera
[12:32] <mindspin> ok
[12:32] <genii> xpapiez you do not need to recompile your kernel for that
[12:32] <mindspin> can't you load the mudeles?
[12:32] <mindspin> modules even
[12:33] <xpapiez> is not better to input it to kernel?
[12:33] <genii> xpapiez What is the file extension on the module you are trying to istall for your DVB-T,camera etc? .deb? .tar.gz or similar?
[12:33] <mindspin> not inmy view
[12:34] <xpapiez> it is in the latest qc-usb_tree
[12:35] <genii> xpapiez OK, but what I am trying to discover is whether you need to compile the module/driver from scratch or
[12:35] <Vladdy-> hmm..
[12:36] <genii> whether it is somehwere now on your system and you just need to insert the module
[12:36] <xpapiez> ok, I try to find out the module and insert it.
[12:37] <genii> do you have the exact name of this module/file??
[12:37] <xpapiez> I thought that is better to kompile a new kernel.
[12:37] <xpapiez> dvb_usb_dtt200u
[12:37] <genii> even if you have to compile a new module you will not have to recompile the kernel
[12:38] <xpapiez> v4l1_compat v4l2_common
[12:38] <genii> OK give me a minute to go find out about this module
[12:40] <genii> It is for a memory device. It seems you do not need to compile it
[12:41] <genii> to see if it is already on your system try modprobe -l dvb_usb_dtt200u
[12:42] <Hurley1> hi
[12:42] <xpapiez> no there is any result
[12:43] <genii> OK did you download this thing already?
[12:44] <xpapiez> yes
[12:44] <genii> xpapiez this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183297
[12:46] <xpapiez> thanks a lot
[12:46] <genii> xpapiez Have fun :)
[12:49] <kolo> hi
[12:50] <eilker> gconfd (maksim-5613): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0 //  any idea for this ? why gconf ? i use kde..
[01:05] <eilker> !gconf
[01:05] <ubotu> gconf: GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-7.1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[01:07] <VincentMX> what's the name for the 64bit kernel in edgy?
[01:07] <lealjr> ol sou novo em usar Kubuntu
[01:08] <VincentMX> !brazilian
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brazilian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <lealjr> gostaria de alguma dica de como fao para obter material para estudar esse so
[01:08] <VincentMX> !spanish
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <VincentMX> ###!
[01:09] <VincentMX> lealjr: espanol is in #kubuntu-es
[01:09] <VincentMX> brazilian is the same as spanish right?
[01:10] <js1990> how do i join channels, coz i dno ne channel names
[01:10] <marciomra> hi?
[01:11] <VincentMX> /join #channel
[01:11] <js1990> ??
[01:11] <marciomra> alguem fala portugues ai?
[01:11] <eilker> !br
[01:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:12] <VincentMX> it was that easy?
[01:12] <VincentMX> just the extension?
[01:12] <VincentMX> i thought you needed to type !brazialian
[01:12] <eilker> vincentmx: brazilian is different from spanish
[01:12] <VincentMX> ok
[01:31] <noobi> a
[01:31] <noobi> salut
[01:31] <k-osh> !fr
[01:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:31] <noobi> fr
[01:32] <noobi> !fr
[01:32] <k-osh> Je ne comprends pas. English here only.
[01:32] <noobi> ok
[01:32] <noobi> sorry
[01:32] <k-osh> No worries.
[01:33] <noobi> is there any fr
[01:33] <k-osh> !fr
[01:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:34] <k-osh> Join any of those two and you should find some french speaking people there.
[01:35] <ricanelite> who here is running Ubuntu Edgy on a Apple Machine?
[01:40] <ricanelite> Does anyone here run MacOnLinux?
[01:59] <sistemas> good mornig
[01:59] <sistemas> morning
[02:00] <sistemas> I'm woriking in a small webapp in Quanta Plus
[02:00] <sistemas> but this IDE colapse continously
[02:08] <B-Minus> im gonna install windows vista to use photoshop on my laptop, if my MBR will be overwriten, how can i repair it so i can see grub ?
[02:11] <Zamber> B-Minus consider using GIMPshop
[02:12] <B-Minus> i am but its not as good as photoshop
[02:12] <B-Minus> im using like 'more then standard tools'
[02:12] <B-Minus> i want multiple layer adjustements etc
[02:12] <B-Minus> not possible with gimp
[02:17] <Vladdy-> yay, w32.parite.b works under wine :D
[02:30] <arconis> fff
[02:30] <arconis> my firefox is getting fuck
[02:32] <blizzzek> could someone describe to me what "liable to get sued" means?
[02:34] <blizzzek> is it equal to "you may get charged" ?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> blizzzek: it means you can be sued
[02:35] <blizzzek> gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[02:35] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:38] <shenmue> Hi, the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel cannot power off automatically?
[02:39] <Vladdy-> of course it can :O
[02:40] <shenmue> But when I shutdown my pc, I have to press the power button manually
[02:40] <xwolf-> i need to merge some free space to my ext3 partition. i looked through gparted and qtparted but none of them seems to have what i want. how can i do that?
[02:40] <DexterF> hi
[02:41] <shenmue> When I use i386 kernel, it can halt though
[02:42] <DexterF> friend of mine (linux knowledge = about apple user) runs kubuntu 6.06 on a machine behind a NAT-router. I'd like so see what's going on on her screen
[02:43] <DexterF> so - easiest way to have that secure? I thought about x11vnc, but that's unencrypted and requires a port fwd, right?
[02:44] <Vladdy-> err
[02:44] <Vladdy-> spying on people?
[02:45] <Vladdy-> best is openssh port forwarding + vnc :P
[02:45] <DexterF> ah, bad chioce of words on my part: no, *supporting* people
[02:46] <DexterF> I talked her into trying kub instead of windows so naturally I have to do some support work
[02:46] <Vladdy-> tightvnc is unsecure, but if you use openssh port forwarding, all data is sent encrypted
[02:46] <DexterF> well. which means I would need an account on her machine
[02:47] <Vladdy-> yep
[02:48] <DexterF> kub has no built in remote support capabilites, huh? should file a feature request for v7...
[02:48] <Vladdy-> well, kubuntu has some
[02:48] <Vladdy-> but it uses vnc
[02:48] <Vladdy-> krfb
[02:48] <DexterF> hmmm.
[02:50] <Vladdy-> but NAT is evil :-/
[02:51] <DexterF> requires port fw, too
[02:53] <Vladdy-> and by the way, port forwarding can work both ways
[02:53] <gan|y|med> hi
[02:53] <Vladdy-> if you have your ssh open, she can forward her port to you
[02:53] <gan|y|med> ok, you might call me "old-fashioned", but i really don't like some of the  improvements in edgy
[02:55] <gan|y|med> oh god, it keeps adding up...
[02:58] <gan|y|med> i have a problem with opera. after having upgraded from 8.x it seems that it does not interpret any css spacing/margins. any ideas what this could be? clearing the configs doesn't help...
[03:00] <olegfink> gan|y|med: switching to konqueror/fireofx?
[03:00] <gan|y|med> of course, THAT is a solution
[03:00] <olegfink> hehe
[03:00] <gan|y|med> would i ask for remedy then?
[03:01] <gan|y|med> ok, you had your fun. any SERIOUS suggestions?
[03:01] <shenmue> can konqueror use firefox extensions?
[03:01] <mc__> shenmue: nope
[03:01] <Vladdy-> only its plugins iirc
[03:02] <olegfink> gan|y|med: is that on linux only?
[03:02] <gan|y|med> yes
[03:02] <gan|y|med> windows works fine
[03:03] <gan|y|med> how is the program file for the ati control panel called (my link is broken)?
[03:09] <olegfink> gan|y|med: hmm maybe to try bugsearch on opera website?
[03:09] <gan|y|med> i'll try. though i was not very successful on google. thx anyway. strange error though...
[03:11] <ScottA> I'm still having a problem getting my wireless card working, and the documentation on Ubuntu is of no help to me. I have Kubuntu 6.10, and a Linksys PCI Wifi Adapter
[03:11] <olegfink> gan|y|med: can you detail it a bit ? I agree a bit strange :)
[03:11] <ScottA> can anyone help me?
[03:12] <gan|y|med> ok. when i use opera 8 web sites look what we may label normal. but in opera 9 everything is tightened up as if the margins and border tags are not considered at all (like cellspacing and -padding = 0)
[03:13] <ScottA> its with opera
[03:13] <gan|y|med> ScottA: just ask
[03:13] <ScottA> I remember something like this happened to me on my win machine
[03:13] <ScottA> ^
[03:13] <gan|y|med> how did you solve it?
 I'm still having a problem getting my wireless card working, and the documentation on Ubuntu is of no help to me. I have Kubuntu 6.10, and a Linksys PCI Wifi Adapter
[03:14] <ScottA> ganymed: hold on
[03:14] <rainer> hello, I am running edgy and have enabled main, restricted, universe and multiverse repositories with the edgy, edgy-updates and edgy-security archives. when I try to update/install new packages through aptitude, most of them fail. A debconf window pops up and says incorrect nice value, needs something between -20 and 19. the console error output is se of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm
[03:14] <rainer> line 104, <GEN3> line 4.
[03:15] <gan|y|med> rainer: is this an update?
[03:15] <rainer> any ideas? :) it worked fine until some time ago, that problem suddenly started appearing
[03:15] <rainer> no idea, it happens at "preconfiguring packages..."
[03:15] <B-Minus> im gonna install windows vista to use photoshop on my laptop, if my MBR will be overwriten, how can i repair it so i can see grub ?
[03:15] <gan|y|med> have you upgraded from dapper?
[03:15] <rainer> no, clean kubuntu edgy install from release iso
[03:16] <rainer> it worked until some time ago, that problem suddenly started appearing today (havn't upgraded packages for a week or so)
[03:16] <ScottA> ganymed: In Opera 9, try View > Fit To Window
[03:16] <gan|y|med> try to update your file cache and reinstall xorg (best from console if there is still one in edgy, couldn't open it so far)
[03:17] <gan|y|med> aaahhh, looks horrible
[03:17] <ScottA> still squished?
[03:17] <rainer> also what confused me, right after installing there was a package conflict (apt could solve but there was one). looked very strange to me :)
[03:17] <gan|y|med> yes, no distances between the elements at all, even with a clean config
[03:17] <sdlnxgk> Good Morning Everyone !!!  Have A Great Weekend !!!
[03:18] <gan|y|med> rainer: have you tried to reinstall xorg
[03:18] <gan|y|med> ?
[03:18] <ScottA> hmm. Is it like, all to one side in a narrow column?
[03:18] <rainer> no, but doing so now
[03:19] <rainer> gan|y|med: you are right, when I press "Cancel" in that debconf window all the xorg packages come up with the same failure so it's probably related to that (which sounds like I am not the first one having that problem :)
[03:21] <sdlnxgk> Anyone using mythtv??? where  can I find the best  card for kubuntu??
[03:21] <ScottA> Can anyone help me with my wifi problem anyways?
[03:22] <gan|y|med> rainer: do "apt-get update" and then "apt-get install xorg" (or whatever it is called). look at "apt-get help" to find the exact command for reinstalling as it has changed since i used it last time, i think
[03:22] <rainer> apt-get --reinstall install ;)
[03:22] <rainer> but same error
[03:23] <gan|y|med> ScottA: no, it is just sqeezed togehter
[03:23] <gan|y|med> th
[03:23] <gan|y|med> have you updated the repos?
[03:23] <ScottA> hmmm.
[03:23] <ScottA> try reinstalling it.
[03:23] <gan|y|med> hey, i am ot a noob :)
[03:24] <gan|y|med> n
[03:24] <ScottA> lol, srry.
[03:24] <dwb222> hey guys, i am having trouble with my dell inspiron 500m. it worked but not has a  very slow moving touchpad mouse after using some bad sources.list
[03:24] <dwb222> can anyone help?
[03:25] <ScottA> I suppose none of you have any idea how to get wifi working?!
[03:25] <Vladdy-> ScottA: depends, is the card found?
[03:25] <ScottA> no
[03:25] <Vladdy-> then you need to know what card you have..
[03:25] <ScottA> Linksys WMP54GS with SpeedBooster
[03:26] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:26] <Vladdy-> hmm,
[03:27] <Vladdy-> unless I'm mistaking, linux v2.6.18.3 will work with it, need to extract firmware with fwcutter though
[03:27] <rainer> gan|y|med: I fixed it...I did dpkg-reconfigure debconf and changed it to ask questions in dialog interface, not KDE and no errors anymore..seems it's related to the Qt debconf interface :)
[03:28] <ScottA> I tried using fwcutter, but it kept saying 'couln't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter'
[03:28] <gan|y|med> sry, was busy
[03:28] <Vladdy-> it's in my repository
[03:29] <gan|y|med> ScottA: what is your wifi problem?
[03:29] <ScottA> I can't get my card to work.
[03:29] <Vladdy-> !sources
[03:29] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:29] <ScottA> hold on
[03:29] <gan|y|med> rainer: oh yes, that is the other possibility. sorry, it has been a long time since this error appeared on my debian box. but good to know
[03:30] <DrCub> hi ScottA
[03:30] <Vladdy-> ScottA: it's in universe
[03:30] <gan|y|med> are there kernel modules for your card?
[03:30] <ScottA> I already enable the universe repositories.
[03:30] <ScottA> hld
[03:30] <Vladdy-> did you run apt-get update then?
[03:31] <ScottA> ?
[03:31] <ScottA> hld
[03:32] <ScottA> I can't connect to the net, so nothing works. :(
[03:32] <Vladdy-> scotta: you have to use wired connection on that pc for now
[03:32] <sdlnxgk> I tired to get my wifi working but had lots of issues with win drivers for a linksys card
[03:32] <ScottA> It just gave me 'failed to fetch' for everything
[03:33] <ScottA> mm
[03:33] <ScottA> thx anyways
[03:33] <Vladdy-> because you need to do some stuff that requires network connection
[03:33] <sdlnxgk> there are web pages out there that say you can use ndiwrapper and windows driver to get it working but haven't yet
[03:33] <ScottA> right.
[03:34] <CyberAlan> couldn't he use like a thumb drive?
[03:34] <Vladdy-> yeah, can transfer files with that
[03:35] <ScottA> How can I use a thumb drive?
[03:35] <gan|y|med> ou can press F12 to open the "Quick preferences" menu. From this menu, try to experiment with the different "Identify as..." settings
[03:35] <gan|y|med> there is NO Identify as... anymore!
[03:36] <Vladdy-> ScottA: easiest is to download on other pc with internet
[03:36] <ScottA> right. where do I go about geting the files I need?
[03:40] <gan|y|med> ok, this browser is driving me crazy. why do they remove the identification option???
[03:41] <gan|y|med> it is not that they a "significant" market share
[03:41] <gan|y|med> have to go for a mom
[03:41] <B-Minus> ok
[03:42] <soulrider> !info gconf
[03:42] <ubotu> gconf: GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-7.1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[03:42] <B-Minus> i damaged my grub by installing windows vista, how can i repair it ?
[03:42] <soulrider> its not a good idea to put that in kubuntu right ?
[03:42] <soulrider> !grub
[03:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:42] <B-Minus> tnx
[03:43] <soulrider> B-Minus: i installed vista 2 days ago
[03:43] <soulrider> and i screwed it up too :P
[03:43] <BluesKaj> which Vista?
[03:43] <soulrider> RTM or something
[03:44] <soulrider> who craes
[03:44] <B-Minus> heh
[03:44] <soulrider> its not like im keeping it
[03:44] <B-Minus> i only need it for photoshop
[03:44] <soulrider> just wanted to give it a try
[03:44] <soulrider> yeah
[03:44] <soulrider> i need windows for that too
[03:44] <soulrider> but i heard ou can use it on wine
[03:44] <B-Minus> i tried but its not the same
[03:45] <B-Minus> and a little buggy
[03:45] <B-Minus> some things cant be used etc
[03:45] <soulrider> yeah, all apps look really ugly under wine too :P
[03:45] <soulrider> oh, really ?
[03:45] <B-Minus> ye
[03:45] <soulrider> its sdo annoying
[03:45] <soulrider> how vista pops up security warnings every 5 secs
[03:45] <B-Minus> hehe
[03:45] <soulrider> and asks you if you were the one that started something
[03:45] <B-Minus> you cracked it ?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> photoshop in XP works well enuff
[03:45] <soulrider> BluesKaj: i use it on XP
[03:46] <BluesKaj> right
[03:46] <B-Minus> i dont think there is anyhting in vista that cant be done in linux
[03:46] <B-Minus> but i really want photoshop :s
[03:46] <BluesKaj> tried vista RC a wheile back but it wasn't ready for Nero or Google earth or any out of the ordinary progs
[03:47] <B-Minus> gimp is good but it gets beaten by PS in many ways
[03:47] <soulrider> yeah
[03:47] <soulrider> i still cant use gimp preoperly
[03:47] <B-Minus> i can my made my christmas card with gimp :p
[03:48] <mc__> yeah gimp really needs improvements
[03:48] <soulrider> its a great app, but you need to re learn the interface
[03:48] <B-Minus> ye
[03:48] <soulrider> and if youre not a graphics designer, its kinda hard
[03:48] <B-Minus> i didnt try gimpshop yet
[03:48] <soulrider> plus
[03:48] <soulrider> i havnt seen many good tutorials
[03:48] <LjL> the GIMP needs improvements, yes. the 'rm' command can be used to patch it
[03:48] <B-Minus> idd
[03:49] <B-Minus> i have a 3 DVD tutorial for PS CS2 :p
[03:49] <mc__> i thinkd gimp's problem is not the user interface,which i prefer over ps
[03:49] <B-Minus> total training :p
[03:49] <soulrider> B-Minus: :O
[03:49] <mc__> gimp simply doesnt have all the nice features
[03:49] <B-Minus> + one other thing, when i print with gimp the quality seems to be really bad i dont know what am doing wrong
[03:50] <BluesKaj> photoshoplearning curve is pretty tough too
[03:50] <soulrider> i never print anything :P
[03:50] <B-Minus> i need to put the jpeg to a memstick and put the memstick in the printer and print lol
[03:51] <soulrider> maybe if you use PNG?
[03:51] <_Vladdy> B-Minus: sudo grub
[03:51] <_Vladdy> root (hd0,XX)
[03:51] <_Vladdy> setup (hd0) and grub is back :O
[03:51] <soulrider> it may not be 0 though
[03:51] <soulrider> do this
[03:52] <soulrider> find /boot/grub/stage1
[03:52] <soulrider> that will tell you
[03:55] <soulrider> !neatbeans
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about neatbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <verzonnen> !me
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <soulrider> does anyone know where ic an find good python tutorials ?
[03:58] <Zamber> soulrider look on google ;P
[03:59] <soulrider> ..
[03:59] <soulrider> maybe someoen was reading some tutorials
[03:59] <soulrider> and could suggest something
[03:59] <Zamber> eventualny install ecipse and download tuts for it
[03:59] <delight> soulrider maybe u are looking for netbeans not neatbeans :-)
[03:59] <soulrider> oh damn
[03:59] <soulrider> i allways make typ0s
[03:59] <soulrider> i use eclipse for everything
[04:00] <Zamber> ;)
[04:00] <delight> me 2
[04:00] <soulrider> just wanted to try netbeans
[04:00] <delight> i did .. but ..
[04:00] <delight> eclipse rocks
[04:00] <soulrider> lol, neatbeans sounds so dirty :P
[04:00] <Zamber> xD
[04:00] <soulrider> the visual editor for java in eclipse is terrible
[04:00] <soulrider> its way too slow
[04:01] <Zamber> well, sometimes
[04:01] <mc__> soulrider: thats a linux problem
[04:01] <Zamber> it depends on your hardware :P
[04:01] <soulrider> not sometimes, allways :P
[04:01] <soulrider> mc__: its even wors ein windows i think
[04:01] <mc__> soulrider: nope
[04:01] <soulrider> Zamber: i got a good computer
[04:01] <mc__> i've got an Athlon X2 4400+
[04:01] <mc__> with linux it runs still to slow
[04:02] <delight> soulrider: the one in netbeans is not better .. i hate that locked source
[04:02] <delight> it got that form file and everything
[04:02] <mc__> in school we got an Sempron 2700+,where it runs smooth
[04:02] <stamen> hi
[04:02] <stamen> I have a problem
[04:02] <delight> matisse is good ... but hey jdk6 is on the doorstep and you won't need matisse
[04:03] <stamen> I changed my PSU and now my kubuntu can't start the X server
[04:03] <stamen> it shows me only @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[04:03] <stamen> all over the screen
[04:03] <stamen> how to fix this
[04:03] <soulrider> =/
[04:03] <stamen> some ideas?
[04:03] <soulrider> i dont know, sorry
[04:04] <gan|y|med> ok, who the hell removed the consoles from the standard config. that is just gross
[04:04] <Zamber> stamen you can reconfigure xorg.conf with the wizard or by hand
[04:04] <FabienD> hi all. did anyone of you successfully run WSAD 5 ?
[04:04] <delight> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:05] <stamen> how to add DNS servers in linux?
[04:05] <Kiongku> hey anyone knows how to set monitor resolution to 96 dpi in xorg.conf?
[04:05] <_Vladdy> stamen: add them to /etc/resolv.conf
[04:05] <gan|y|med> resolv.conf
[04:06] <verzonnen> stamen: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[04:06] <_Vladdy> err
[04:06] <_Vladdy> One reply is enough!
[04:06] <verzonnen> damn lag
[04:06] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program that can put a console in my desktop, kind of how conky shows the stats
[04:07] <ubuntu_> hello
[04:07] <soulrider> hi ubuntu_
[04:07] <pierreth> hello soulrider
[04:07] <pierreth> i no longer see my desktop when i am booting
[04:08] <soulrider> what do you mean ?
[04:08] <pierreth> how can I fix it^
[04:08] <pierreth> I mean my machine start...
[04:08] <RadiantFire> does anyone know where the embedding group options for konqeuror are stored, like for graphics applications and text applications?
[04:08] <pierreth> but I don t see the login for kde
[04:08] <soulrider> oh
[04:08] <soulrider> uhm, i dont know
[04:08] <pierreth> i have a black screen instead
[04:08] <soulrider> have you tried doing jdeinit from a console ?
[04:09] <soulrider> thats what i would do
[04:09] <pierreth> no
[04:09] <pierreth> how can I do that?
[04:09] <soulrider> wel,, wheny ou boot, doesnt it show a console?
[04:09] <soulrider> saying
[04:09] <soulrider> login:
[04:09] <soulrider> you put your username, pass
[04:09] <pierreth> no
[04:09] <soulrider> oh
[04:10] <soulrider> is the screen just black ? =/
[04:10] <delight> pierreth what about ctrl+alt+f1
[04:10] <pierreth> delight: and then^
[04:10] <soulrider> and then your username
[04:10] <pierreth> it is booting normally
[04:10] <soulrider> pass
[04:10] <soulrider> and kde init
[04:10] <delight> and then loging and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:10] <soulrider> yeha, that too :P
[04:10] <pierreth> i did the last one
[04:10] <soulrider> i need to go take a shower
[04:10] <soulrider> bbl
[04:11] <pierreth> OK, I will try this
[04:11] <pierreth> thank you
[04:11] <DeadS0ul> anybody having trouble with kwallet in edgy?
[04:12] <delight> !MergedFB
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MergedFB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <DeadS0ul> for some werid reason kwallet never starts up when I log in, and it loses all my passwords whenever I restart X
[04:13] <Kiongku> anyone here knows how to modify xorg.conf?
[04:14] <verzonnen> DeadS0ul: I turned of kwallet and got the induvidua apps to store the passwords
[04:14] <stamen> !xserver
[04:14] <verzonnen> induvidual*
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <stamen> !x
[04:14] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:15] <stamen> !nvidia
[04:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:16] <gan|y|med> ok, what is the sense of a navigation bar without having anything to navigate with? how is this an "improvement"? m$ couldn't have done it "better"...
[04:16] <DeadS0ul> verzonnen: I see
[04:18] <_Vladdy> !flash
[04:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:18] <verzonnen> DeadS0ul: I figured that if some one can hack this machine they can get all my passwords anyway
[04:18] <DeadS0ul> meh i'm not worried bout that
[04:19] <DeadS0ul> i just wanna get it working
[04:20] <verzonnen> DeadS0ul: well you can do what I did and disable kwallet
[04:22] <DeadS0ul> how do I do that?
[04:22] <_Vladdy> ah, that's why apt-get stopped working, it tried to download from an ipv6 address :O
[04:24] <DeadS0ul> i remember i had to remove the ipv6 module for my kubuntu box to get my networking working
[04:24] <Vladdy-> made a small script that sets up ipv6to4 tunnel
[04:25] <Vladdy-> works with tun6to4 <ipv4 address>
[04:25] <DeadS0ul> heh i just blacklisted the module
[04:25] <verzonnen> who uses ipv6 at home/work and why?
[04:25] <Vladdy-> just because I can :-)
[04:25] <DeadS0ul> no point criticizing man
[04:25] <Vladdy-> hehe
[04:26] <DeadS0ul> different ways of soloving problems
[04:26] <verzonnen> Vladdy-: good reason
[04:26] <Vladdy-> [16:25]  [Whois]  Vladdy- is n=maart@2002:9163:93b9:a:bad:cafe:dead:babe (maarten)
[04:26] <verzonnen> lol
[04:29] <verzonnen> I know what ipv6 is and why it is going to be used, just wondering why it's implemented on most linux versions already while almost  no one seems to be using it
[04:29] <verzonnen> I would love to see ipv6 implemented tomorrow though
[04:30] <Vladdy-> well
[04:30] <abionnnn> do the broadcom bluetooth dongle drivers come with ubuntu?
[04:30] <Vladdy-> easy to get it working :O
[04:31] <abionnnn> *kernel module
[04:31] <Vladdy-> if your provider supports it
[04:31] <abionnnn> Hmmm lemme check with Mr. Belkin :P
[04:31] <Vladdy-> try, ping 192.88.99.1 and pray for a reply
[04:32] <abionnnn> got a reply...
[04:32] <Vladdy-> create a shell script with the contents of http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/412
[04:33] <Vladdy-> then just do './script youripv4addr' and try to connect to ipv6.chat.freenode.net
[04:34] <Vladdy-> needs to be run with sudo
[04:34] <abionnnn> other than a cool hostname what advantage does it give you to tunnel through that? :P
[04:34] <Vladdy-> access all ipv6
[04:35] <verzonnen> ipv6 does encryption and i think that is kind of cool
[04:41] <verzonnen> ttl 255 ?
[04:42] <verzonnen> isn't that kind of high?
[04:42] <pierreth> hello, i still have the black screen problem
[04:43] <pierreth> when do I kdeinit...
[04:43] <pierreth> it says it has a problem with KUnique register
[04:43] <cathal> update manager doesnt start automaticly when i log in, cant find the program in system services, where can i set this program to start automaticly?
[04:43] <pierreth> cathal: yes
[04:44] <pierreth> cathal: put in your .kde/Autostart
[04:44] <pierreth> cathal: in your home folder
[04:44] <Zamber> cathal run sudo apt-get autoupdate
[04:45] <daseeb> hi! I want to create a .deb package from a tool I have written myself. Can you give me a link to some documenattion how to do this? All howtos I've found take debian sources and build a package out of them
[04:46] <pierreth> hello i am unable able to boot kde
[04:46] <Zamber> and?
[04:46] <daseeb> I also have no standard make files with my program because I don't use gcc
[04:47] <pierreth> Zamber: i can start my machine...
[04:47] <pierreth> Zamber: it boots my at the time to display the login window...
[04:47] <Zamber> you se your terminal, right?
[04:47] <cathal> Zamber: autoupdate package doesn't exist for me, is it a certain repository?
[04:48] <pierreth> Zamber: i have a black screen
[04:48] <Zamber> cahal it's a apt-get command
[04:48] <Zamber> sudo apt-get autoupdate
[04:48] <Zamber> it ubdates automaticaly packages that have newer versions
[04:48] <pierreth> Zamber: i am using kde by booting from the dvd
[04:49] <Zamber> cathal go to your xorg.0.log
[04:49] <Zamber> and search for (WW)
[04:50] <Zamber> its innn...
[04:50] <Zamber> /var/log/xorg.0.log
[04:50] <Zamber> ;)
[04:50] <Zamber> no xD
[04:50] <Zamber> no cathal
[04:51] <Zamber> pierreth
[04:51] <pierreth> Zamber: yes?
[04:51] <Zamber> paste your /var/log/xorg.0.log on phpfi.com
[04:52] <pierreth> Zamber: the /var/log of my hard drive?
[04:52] <Zamber> yep
[04:52] <pierreth> Zamber: OK I have to mount my disk
[04:52] <Zamber> of the drive where you have that not loading kde
[04:53] <rance> I seem to having trouble with the cd autoloader in kubuntu, mostly with audio cds but there are some strange things going on with data cds as well
[04:53] <rance> is there a troubleshooting page or something I missed when I googled for it
[04:55] <Zamber> rance chceck out this http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=101122002717168&w=2
[04:56] <Zamber> pierreth how it's going?
[04:56] <rance> thanks Zamber, will try it
[04:56] <pierreth> Zamber: i have just mounted my drive
[04:57] <gan|y|med> hello
[04:58] <gan|y|med> how can i revert that irrational behaviour of konqueror NOT to show ALL dirs in the dir tree?
[04:58] <abionnnn> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=26047 <--- what do these kernel messages mean? I'm trying to install a usb bluetooth dongle
[04:59] <Fragrag> Can someone help me play WMV files with VLC?
[05:00] <pierreth> Zamber: http://phpfi.com/183021
[05:00] <Zamber> abionnnn http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0404.0/1054.html
[05:00] <Fragrag> !wmv
[05:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:00] <pierreth> Zamber: sorry for the delay
[05:01] <Zamber> pierreth looking..
[05:02] <Zamber> pierreth looks like you've tryed to enable DRI in a rough way "(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable"
[05:03] <gan|y|med> can nobody tell me how to see ALL dirs in the dir tree again?
[05:03] <Zamber> show me your xorg.conf and say what graphic card you have ;)
[05:03] <pierreth> Zamber: i had a crash before
[05:03] <pierreth> Zamber: OK
[05:03] <Zamber> pierreth ypu managed to get DRI work?
[05:04] <pierreth> Zamber: Sorry I don t know what you are talking about :-)
[05:04] <Zamber> DRI = direct rendering infrastructure
[05:04] <Zamber> I gues you have a nvidia or ATI
[05:05] <Zamber> :P
[05:05] <mimmo> siete in tanti
[05:05] <pierreth> Zamber: http://phpfi.com/183022
[05:06] <pierreth> Zamber: I have old PIII from IBM
[05:08] <marcreichelt> hiho
[05:08] <Zamber> interesting
[05:08] <Zamber> could you give me the correct graph. card name?
[05:09] <marcreichelt> I installed the portscanner "knocker" to test my server for open ports
[05:09] <pierreth> Zamber: it an ibm 300PL
[05:09] <marcreichelt> but if I try to run the program an ugly error is returned
[05:09] <Alter-Ego> what is the finince app for kubuntu ?
[05:09] <pierreth> Zamber: i don t what graphic card it has
[05:10] <Zamber> Alter-Ego http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html
[05:10] <Vladdy-> pierreth: use lspci to find out ;-)
[05:10] <pierreth> Vladdy-: OK
[05:11] <JoeJoe> hi
[05:11] <marcreichelt> see this shell output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36073/
[05:12] <JoeJoe> I have an idea for kununtu: why not add some more apps like the gimp, Koffice and some games?
[05:12] <pierreth> Zamber: http://phpfi.com/183025
[05:12] <HymnToLife> as if Kubuntu wasn't heavey enough aldready...
[05:12] <HymnToLife> heavy*
[05:12] <marcreichelt> the funny thing is: if I download the current version of knocker from the official homepage and compile and run that one, I get the same error
[05:13] <JoeJoe> what does that mean: heavy?
[05:13] <HymnToLife> means it install far too much stuff by default imho
[05:14] <JoeJoe> maybee add it on to the site, so it has  package part and make it easy for everyone?
[05:14] <pierreth> Zamber: does it help^
[05:15] <HymnToLife> packages fot GIMP and Koffice already exist
[05:15] <HymnToLife> and about 12,000 more
[05:15] <JoeJoe> i mean link them direct to the kubuntu site
[05:16] <HymnToLife> that's not the way things work here
[05:16] <HymnToLife> we use apt to install stuff
[05:16] <JoeJoe> oh right!
[05:17] <JoeJoe> bye
[05:17] <pierreth> Zamber: still here?
[05:17] <Zamber> eyp
[05:17] <Zamber> brb
[05:18] <pierreth> Zamber: so, do you have an idea?
[05:18] <marcreichelt> anyone that knows something about my problem with "knocker"?
[05:19] <Zamber> pierreth I'm looking for the driver that supports your card
[05:20] <pierreth> Zamber: yestherday everything was working on this computer
[05:20] <Zamber> what were you changing?
[05:20] <Zamber> hey!
[05:20] <Zamber> I have a idea ;)
[05:21] <Zamber> look into /etc/X11/ dir
[05:21] <Zamber> and look for files xorg.conf.SomeShitHere
[05:21] <Zamber> replace SomeShitHere with anything
[05:22] <Zamber> if you have more that one file like that
[05:22] <Zamber> take the one witch is the youngest
[05:22] <Zamber> and compare it with your xorg.conf
[05:23] <pierreth> Zamber: OK
[05:23] <silvia> ciao
[05:24] <silvia> entro qui per la prima volta
[05:24] <pierreth> Zamber: i have many of them
[05:24] <silvia> qualcuno pu aiutarmi
[05:24] <Zamber> pierreth that's normal
[05:24] <pierreth> Zamber: do you think i have a problem with this file or could it be somthing else^
[05:24] <Zamber> look on the latest one
[05:25] <Zamber> in 90% pf X errors it's a badly configured xorg
[05:25] <Zamber> pf -of
[05:26] <Zamber> I was installing my radeon 9200 for the lat week and had a couple of preakdowns like that ;)
[05:26] <Zamber> breakdowns*
[05:27] <pierreth> Zamber: what should i look in the file?
[05:27] <Zamber> any diffrences
[05:27] <Zamber> from the current one
[05:28] <weswh-> i installed azureus, and got the issue about the wrong version of java. so i installed the sun java 5, and set it in update-java-alternatives and in etc/jvm to the top. now when i start azureus, it loads, and i see the main window, and then it closes immediately. any ideas?
[05:28] <weswh-> !java
[05:28] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:29] <Zamber> !xorg
[05:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:29] <pierreth> Zamber: input device  stylus and cursor were removed
[05:29] <Zamber> ooh
[05:29] <Zamber> one sec
[05:30] <Zamber> got it ;)
[05:31] <weswh-> if i switch back to the gij for java, everything is fine (but the tracker gives an error about the wrong version of java..), when i switch to sun java, it just instantly crashes.
[05:31] <Zamber> ahh no
[05:31] <Zamber> were removed from witch one?
[05:32] <pierreth> Zamber: the actual xorg.conf has it, i have another file that does not
[05:32] <Zamber> post it on phpfi.com
[05:32] <hyper_ch> phpfi :)
[05:33] <Zamber> :)
[05:33] <cvasilak> hi, any tutorial on installing knetworkmanager? i have install it but how to configure it?
[05:33] <hyper_ch> it just lacks one thing: you can't alter stuff... however I like the search of it very much
[05:34] <pierreth> zamber: i will try the oldest one
[05:34] <Zamber> ok ;)
[05:34] <pierreth> Zamber: thank you
[05:34] <Zamber> no problerm :)
[05:34] <Zamber> xD
[05:34] <Zamber> typ0
[05:35] <cgetkey> good morning folks
[05:35] <bomber> how do i create a boot disk in kubuntu?
[05:36] <bomber> i need to reinstall grub after i reinstall windoze xp
[05:36] <Jucato> !grub | bomber
[05:36] <ubotu> bomber: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:36] <bomber> ty
[05:36] <vado> Salut
[05:37] <gan|y|med> i wanna install opera 8.54 which worked on dapper. however, dpkg does not install the opera binary. instead it puts a symlink to /bin/opera in /usb/bin, but, of course, there is no such file in /bin. any ideas?
[05:37] <weswh-> anyone have Azureus running with 6.1?
[05:38] <zorglu_> !opera
[05:38] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:43] <gan|y|med> ok, the server is down. and i do not want to install opera 9. it has to be 8.5x. it used to work, but it just doesn't install this damn binary...
[05:44] <gan|y|med> how do i access the files in a deb archive directly?
[05:44] <ubuntu_> !fr
[05:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:45] <zorglu_> !deb
[05:45] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[05:45] <zorglu_> hmm not a good one
[05:45] <gan|y|med> that is m$ style
[05:45] <cgetkey> anybody have any luck getting a dxg video camara to work
[05:46] <gan|y|med> what about kpackage? might this work?
[05:46] <Vladdy-> gan|y|med: just look there, it's html style ;-)
[05:46] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: it is unlikely you want to do that because of the high risk you to make something wrong. if you are sure you want to do it, man dpkg explain it all
[05:46] <gan|y|med> it is very likely i want to do this
[05:46] <Vladdy-> for example, http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[05:46] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: what about following the tutorial ? :)
[05:46] <Vladdy-> just go there :O
[05:46] <Vladdy-> ubuntu, pool
[05:46] <Vladdy-> and then your flavor
[05:46] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: cool, then 'man dpkg' will provide you the info you need
[05:47] <gan|y|med> at what stage of the install process do you think i am if i ask sth. like accessing a deb archive directly
[05:47] <weswh-> i seem to have some strange permission requirements even in my home dir. yesterday i was getting permission denied in firefox trying to save a file to a folder i created in my home dir (but i could save it to my desktop). now ktorrent is telling me "cannot open /home/wes/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor0/cache/01 Get Innocuous.mp3: Permission denied"
[05:47] <gan|y|med> look at my initial post
[05:47] <gan|y|med> i wanna install opera 8.54 which worked on dapper. however, dpkg does not install the opera binary. instead it puts a symlink to /bin/opera in /usb/bin, but, of course, there is no such file in /bin. any ideas?
[05:47] <weswh-> i mean, i assume ktorrent knows what it is doing - not sure why it needs that tmp folder but whatever - how can i give my apps outright access to my home dir?
[05:47] <weswh-> hidden or otherwise
[05:48] <gan|y|med> and is there any known issue with the security server?
[05:48] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: yep, i have one :) except if you know what you are doing, you should not messed up with raw stuff like dpkg internal :)
[05:48] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: but if you know what you are doing, you can mess with dpkg internal, people are doing it everyday
[05:49] <user_> hello everybody
[05:49] <user_> i am here...
[05:49] <Aravind> asddda
[05:49] <Aravind> ha ha ha
[05:49] <gan|y|med> so how do i "look" into a deb file. i just wanna extract the opera binary as it is not done be dpkg anymore
[05:49] <pierreth> Zamber: ?
[05:49] <zorglu_> weswh-: they have it by default
[05:50] <gan|y|med> would anybordy minde sending me a file?
[05:50] <Zamber> pierreth ?
[05:50] <ubuntu_> HI NOOBS
[05:50] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: told you already :) this is all in the "man dpkg" <- copy that in a terminal and read. you have a long ride to mke :)
[05:50] <pierreth> Zamber: it does not work :-)
[05:50] <Zamber> gan|y|med just unzip it xD
[05:50] <pierreth> Zamber: I think the problem is with KDE
[05:50] <weswh-> zorglu - what would you make of that error? (and the fact that in firefox i couldn't save to one of my dirs there, permission denied as well)
[05:50] <gan|y|med> libpng12-dev_1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[05:50] <gan|y|med> thx
[05:50] <gan|y|med> i'll try it
[05:51] <pierreth> Zamber: do you think I should try a reintall of kde?
[05:51] <ubuntu_> SO?
[05:51] <Zamber> pierreth did you try thelatest backup or the oldest?
[05:51] <ubuntu_> So?
[05:51] <ubuntu_> :)
[05:51] <pierreth> Zamber: The oldest
[05:51] <Zamber> reinstalling is not the point :P
[05:51] <zorglu_> weswh-: 1. describe what you do and 2. the error you see in clear details
[05:51] <ubuntu_> pierreth Loser :D
[05:51] <ubuntu_> pierreth Loser :D
[05:52] <cgetkey> has anyone have any luck getting a DXG movie camara to work?
[05:52] <ubuntu_> i have
[05:52] <ubuntu_> sO?
[05:52] <Zamber> pierreth use the youngest backup
[05:52] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: please behave
[05:52] <pierreth> Zamber: why the youngest?
[05:52] <ubuntu_> :D
[05:52] <weswh-> i seem to have some strange permission requirements even in my home dir. yesterday i was getting permission denied in firefox trying to save a file to a folder i created in my home dir (but i could save it to my desktop). now ktorrent is telling me "cannot open /home/wes/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor0/cache/01 Get Innocuous.mp3: Permission denied" when trying to seed a torrent
[05:52] <Zamber> coz it's the one that should work
[05:53] <Zamber> :P
[05:53] <aleksanteri> :D
[05:53] <zorglu_> weedar: ok do "ls -ld ~" in a terminal and give me the result
[05:53] <Zamber> btw say if something changes it's behavior
[05:53] <weswh-> i have examined the folder in question (.kde/share etc) and it seems that my user has permission. group or other permissions are forbidden. but i am the owner.
[05:53] <pierreth> Zamber: nothing has changed
[05:54] <weswh-> is it possible that ktorrent is running as something other than my user? (it was installed with the system)
[05:54] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok do "ls -ld ~" in a terminal and give me the result
[05:54] <zorglu_> weswh-: no ktorrent run as your normal users
[05:55] <weswh-> drwxr-xr-x 17 wes wes 4096 2006-12-09 11:24 /home/wes
[05:56] <pierreth> Zamber: i think i have a lock
[05:56] <Zamber> pierreth I have a idea ;)
[05:56] <Zamber> wait a sec
[05:56] <voicu> is there any other dc++ client beside valknut?
[05:56] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok this is the normal result. now do "touch /home/wes/blabla"
[05:56] <zorglu_> weswh-: and then "ls -l /hom/wes/blabla"
[05:56] <Vladdy-> abKdefKhijKlmnopqrstuvwKsyz :O
[05:56] <Zamber> run:
[05:57] <voicu> !dc++
[05:57] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[05:57] <zorglu_> voicu: not what you were looking for :)
[05:57] <Zamber> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
[05:57] <weswh-> -rw-r--r-- 1 wes wes 0 2006-12-09 11:56 /home/wes/blabla
[05:57] <Zamber> than
[05:57] <Zamber> in xorg.conf
[05:57] <zorglu_> voicu: i believe i saw a #linuxdc++
[05:57] <voicu> ok
[05:57] <voicu> i'll try to fin it
[05:57] <voicu> *find
[05:57] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok so you can create a file in you home dir
[05:58] <weswh-> right (i have done so)...let me see if i can recreate the problem in firefox. it was strange
[05:58] <zorglu_> weswh-: can you reproduce this 'touch/ls' in the directory up to the ktorrent one ?
[05:58] <weswh-> should i put it all the way in the final dir, or stop at .kde, /share?
[05:59] <zorglu_> weswh-: the point is to find the dir which cause the trouble
[05:59] <pierreth> Zamber: I think i have a lock
[05:59] <zorglu_> weswh-: it is somewhere between /home/wes and the .mp3
[05:59] <weswh-> right
[05:59] <Zamber> pierreth look on piv msg
[05:59] <weswh-> do you think the fact that .kde is hidden makes a difference or that should be cool?
[05:59] <pierreth> Zamber: i did
[06:00] <zorglu_> weswh-: no difference at all, the 'hidden' stuff is only for the user seeing it or not. not difference for the computer
[06:00] <pierreth> zamber: when i try to start kde, it says I has an error KUnique register or something like that
[06:00] <cgetkey> My daughter got on for Christmas and I'm trying to get it to work on linux
[06:00] <cgetkey> a DXG movie camara
[06:01] <abionnnn> Zamber: do you happen to know which ubuntu package has bluezfw?
[06:01] <pierreth> Zamber: do you think this could the problem^
[06:01] <Zamber> abionnnn nope
[06:01] <Zamber> google for it
[06:01] <Zamber> pierreth checking..
[06:01] <abionnnn> did, nothing. :p
[06:01] <abionnnn> apt-cache doesn't help either heh
[06:01] <Zamber> lol xD
[06:02] <zorglu_> cgetkey: you would have more chance on more specialized channel. google for 'linux studio'
[06:02] <abionnnn> perhaps its depreciated
[06:03] <cgetkey> it has software only for mac or microsoft but I run linux
[06:03] <cgetkey> but I'll try  an search for linux studio thx
[06:03] <aleksanteri> use wine then
[06:04] <cgetkey> Ahhhhh thx I'll try that
[06:04] <aleksanteri> sudo aptitude update
[06:04] <aleksanteri> sudo aptitude install wine
[06:04] <aleksanteri> put those in one at a time
[06:04] <cgetkey> forgot about wine
[06:04] <weswh-> zorglu - i found the problem. and...not so sure it's going to be easy to fix unfortunately.
[06:05] <zorglu_> weswh-: what is it
[06:05] <aleksanteri> cgetkey: ;)
[06:05] <zorglu_> !tab | weswh-
[06:05] <ubotu> weswh-: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:05] <weswh-> zorglu_: i was able to touch/ls all the way to the final directory...and all of the directories are owned by me etc.
[06:05] <aleksanteri> ubotu: :O
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about O - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <aleksanteri> :P
[06:05] <aleksanteri> lol
[06:05] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok
[06:05] <weswh-> zorglu_: in the final 'cache' dir, ktorrent puts links to the actual files on the filesystem - those links are root :(
[06:06] <cgetkey> gotta go thx for any and all help guys and gals
[06:06] <cgetkey> much appreciated
[06:06] <weswh-> zorglu_: not sure why ktorrent would do it that way, surely it's a problem for most users
[06:06] <zorglu_> weswh-: you can change the owner of a file by "chown wes.wes yourfilenamegoeshere"
[06:07] <weswh-> right, but that's not really a solution in the long run. if i have to manually change file permissions for whatever ktorrent is doing in the background.
[06:08] <weswh-> zorglu_: it gives me an option of where to store temportary files, but doesn't seem to have an option for "don't create any new files, just use what is on the fs"
[06:08] <ibert> hi! I had to change a NIC on a machine, and now eth0 isn't there anymore. With which dpkg-reconfigure can I set up the network again?
[06:08] <zorglu_> weswh-: it is not ktorrent or firefox changing the owner, it is somewhere in your local dont
[06:09] <zorglu_> weswh-: let me guess this fs is a window one ?
[06:09] <zorglu_> in your local dont=in your local conf
[06:09] <pierreth> Zamber: I will try what you said
[06:09] <weswh-> no, ext3. it's on the same drive as my system
[06:09] <Zamber> k ;)
[06:09] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok why is it owned by root ?
[06:10] <pierreth> Zamber: i hope it will work :-)
[06:10] <prophitinc> oi how do i install a tar.gz file?
[06:10] <weswh-> oh -  see what you mean. the link file will mirror the permissions of the file on the fs
[06:10] <Zamber> prophitinc what distro do you use?
[06:10] <prophitinc> kubuntu
[06:10] <weswh-> zorglu_: ok, let me see. because they were copied from another drive (also ext3) that i mounted
[06:11] <Zamber> so you can install things only with a .deb ext
[06:11] <Zamber> or manually install a C compiler
[06:11] <prophitinc> well the linux version of shock flash thingy
[06:11] <prophitinc> is in tar.gz
[06:11] <prophitinc> need it to play online rpg for the kids
[06:12] <Zamber> !compile
[06:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:12] <prophitinc> how do i do that?
[06:12] <Zamber> read the tips
[06:12] <weswh-> zorglu_: right you are, all of those files are owned by root. that explains a lot. the directorys i created while i was in kdesu konqueror, are owned by root. so are all of the files i copied over during that time. doh!
[06:12] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok :)
[06:13] <weswh-> zorglu_: i am pretty weak with cli at the moment, is there a quick command that will recursively set all of the permissions for every file in my home dir to my user?
[06:13] <weswh-> otherwise i have a lot of right clicking to do. heh
[06:13] <zorglu_> weswh-: chown -R wes.wes youbasedir
[06:13] <zorglu_> !right
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about right - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <zorglu_> !file
[06:13] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:14] <zorglu_> weswh-: the second link
[06:14] <weswh-> thanks!
[06:14] <Zamber> !kickerpager
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kickerpager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <Zamber> !kicker
[06:14] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[06:16] <weswh-> zorglu_: so i did, "sudo chown -R wes.wes /home/wes", it took the command, but doesn't seemed to have changed any permissions?
[06:16] <HymnToLife> weswh-, you should have done "wes:wes"
[06:17] <zorglu_> as HymnToLife said :)
[06:17] <zorglu_> well understandably i told you . twice :))))))))))
[06:18] <weswh-> zorglu_: ok, did that wes.wes thing mess anything up? :)
[06:18] <zorglu_> nope
[06:19] <HymnToLife> and even if it had, wes:wes would have sorted it
[06:20] <weswh-> hmm, i don't get it. it's not changing things. "sudo chown -R wes:wes /home/wes"
[06:20] <weswh-> all of the dirs and files that were root before, are still root
[06:24] <nagyv> is there any dcop call to ban/love/skip a track in amarok's last.fm player?
[06:28] <angasule> I can't add the RSS from english.aljazeera.net (it's on the left side), I don't know anything about RSS to tell if it's an akregator bug or the problem is in aljazeera's side, anyone that knows? :? it's a pain to check manually, like it's the 90's or something
[06:29] <weswh-> maybe sudo isn't powerful enough to change the permissions of the files that were made while using kdesu?
[06:30] <verzonnen> angasule: what is the url?
[06:30] <weswh-> when i try to do su - in console, it says authentication failure
[06:30] <verzonnen> weswh-: try sudo su -
[06:31] <angasule> verzonnen: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/4D6139CD-6BB5-438A-8F33-96A7F25F40AF.htm?ArticleGuid=55ABE840-AC30-41D2-BDC9-06BBE2A36665
[06:31] <angasule> verzonnen: if you got to http://english.aljazeera.net the link is on the left in large, friendly letters
[06:32] <edulix> hi
[06:32] <verzonnen> angasule: that is not a valid rss link
[06:32] <edulix> I'm not seeing gtk apps with antialiased fonts
[06:32] <angasule> verzonnen: oh, ok :(
[06:32] <edulix> even though I have configured kcontrol to set it to Bitstream, or Sans Serif, or..
[06:32] <edulix> (i've tried many9
[06:33] <weswh-> verzonnen: that did appear to give me a clean root shell, thanks. but i still can't solve my problem. the other day i was messing around the kdesu konqueror, and ended up copying over all of the files from my old HD while in that mode. so they are all owned by root - and now won't play nice with my applications. all i am trying to do is change everything under /home/wes, (all folders and files) back to my user. with root access now in
[06:33] <weswh-> console, i did "chown -R wes:wes /home/wes", and it isn't changing the file permissions at all
[06:33] <verzonnen> angasule: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/4D6139CD-6BB5-438A-8F33-96A7F25F40AF.htm?ArticleGuid=55ABE840-AC30-41D2-BDC9-06BBE2A36665
[06:34] <verzonnen> just add a new feed to akregator
[06:35] <verzonnen> weswh-: ok, try this "chown -R wes:wes /home/wes"
[06:35] <angasule> verzonnen: is that not the same link I mentioned?
[06:36] <verzonnen> angasule: yeah it is
[06:36] <verzonnen> angasule: my mistake
[06:36] <angasule> verzonnen: neat, it worked by manually adding it, what's the correct extension? .rss? then it'd work fine?
[06:37] <scode__> I'm a noob at linux. What's the command to move a file?
[06:37] <weedar> scode_: mv
[06:37] <scode__> thx
[06:39] <weswh-> verzonnen: that is what i did before. now this has gone from strange to scary. i opened up a kdesu konqueror session, and all of the sudden in that (as opposed to the regular konqueror) it is showing that the permissions have changed. so i go back to regular, and it's good now too. maybe it just took a while to update at the GUI level? but the one folder i was most concerned with in regular konqueror, is still showing owned by root. in
[06:39] <weswh-> kdesu, it is showing owned by wes
[06:39] <weswh-> is there a way i can examine the whole directory in konsole, and see anything that is not owned by wes?
[06:39] <weswh-> because i don't trust this GUI anymore :)
[06:40] <verzonnen> weswh-: try this as your regular user "id"
[06:42] <Vladdy-> !tv
[06:42] <Vladdy-> hmm
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <verzonnen> !AI
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Vladdy-> evil...
[06:45] <inetpro> !3G
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3G - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <verzonnen> sory hard to resist playing with bots.....
[06:52] <sredna> The videp players in kubuntu are fast becoming more and more broken
[06:52] <sredna> Now I can't view full screen video
[06:53] <sredna> Using libxine
[06:53] <sredna> Mplayer can, but does something really ugly
[06:53] <verzonnen> use mplayer
[06:53] <sredna> Mplayer fails loading a lot of the streams I want to open
[06:54] <sredna> It's ASF parser is broken
[06:54] <mc__> !keyboards
[06:54] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[06:54] <mc__> !multimedia_keyboards
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multimedia_keyboards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <sredna> Mplayer also appears to download at least the double amount of data compared to xine, with no difference in quality
[06:57] <aleksanteri> hey how to check if i am running a 64-bit version or not?
[06:59] <sredna> Hm, I found out something: If I have an other instance of kmplayer open with xine, it uses some different video driver, which does not permit full screen mode.
[07:00] <sredna> Even though that other player was stopped, and did play an audio stream.
[07:00] <sredna> There is yet some way for linux...
[07:04] <genjix2> well I have an oddity... installed default kubuntu and only mplayer works -> no kaffeine
[07:06] <genjix2> aha http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76111.html
[07:07] <Zappix> Hey, would Kubuntu run on a Pentium Tillamook /MMX (233Mhz)?
[07:07] <Zappix> Probably would being Gentoo can run on an i486 >>;
[07:08] <hyper_ch> Zappix: how much ram?
[07:08] <Skrot> KDE might be a little heavy for such a old computer :)
[07:09] <Zappix> 256MB
[07:09] <hyper_ch> Zappix: I'd rather try xubuntu instead of kubuntu
[07:09] <Zappix> Ah, okay. (Used to have an AMD thunderbird but my motherboard for it died)
[07:09] <hyper_ch> or install *buntu without any gui and get fluxbox or something like that
[07:09] <Zappix> Ah, okay, thanks.
[07:10] <hyper_ch> Zappix: well, there are a few lightweight desktops out there... you need just to test a bit :)
[07:10] <sumashod> hi
[07:10] <sumashod> :)
[07:10] <Zamber> xfce is nice
[07:11] <hyper_ch> I think on a pentium mmx 233 with 256 mb ram xfce shouldn't run to bad
[07:11] <hyper_ch> s/to /too
[07:11] <Zamber> fluxbox would run for sure
[07:11] <aleksanteri> anyone knows a fast way to get wine?
[07:12] <Zamber> go to a shop and say "wine please"
[07:12] <aleksanteri> ...
[07:12] <Zamber> ofc you have to be 18 :P
[07:12] <aleksanteri> i mean the program
[07:12] <Zamber> sudo apt-get install wine
[07:12] <aleksanteri> yeah
[07:12] <aleksanteri> but it doesn't install it
[07:12] <Zamber> so
[07:12] <Zamber> sudo apt-cache search wine
[07:13] <Zamber> and look wich one matches your criteria
[07:13] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: you're on edgy or dapper?
[07:13] <aleksanteri> dapper
[07:13] <aleksanteri> 6.06
[07:13] <Zamber> there's another way also
[07:13] <hyper_ch> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[07:13] <hyper_ch> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[07:13] <Zamber> google for automatix
[07:13] <hyper_ch> add that to your repos
[07:13] <LjL> !automatix
[07:13] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:13] <hyper_ch> and change "edgy" to "dapper"
[07:13] <Zappix> It'd be awesome if I could run a processor even though it was missing one of the pins.....
[07:14] <aleksanteri> lol
[07:14] <Zamber> xD
[07:14] <DennisTT> How can I find out what version of Kubuntu I'm using
[07:14] <Zamber> !WorksForMe
[07:14] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:14] <aleksanteri> "deb-src command not found" :|
[07:14] <Zappix> I have an AMD K6-II but one of the pins came off while I was trying to unbend one of them >.<;
[07:14] <Zamber> aleksanteri add it to ypu sources.list
[07:15] <Zamber> your
[07:15] <aleksanteri> how?
[07:15] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: open a terminal
[07:15] <aleksanteri> i have one open all the time :P
[07:15] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: enter there:   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:15] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: copy there the two repos I posted above
[07:15] <Zamber> nano or kate
[07:15] <aleksanteri> ahh nano, :D
[07:15] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: replace edgy by dapper
[07:16] <aleksanteri> ok
[07:16] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: in nano --> press then ctrl-x (for exiting)... it will then ask you whether you want to save
[07:16] <aleksanteri> i have used nano before
[07:16] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: then enter in the terminal:   sudo apt-get update
[07:16] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: and finally:  sudo apt-get install wine
[07:17] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: then make some coffee and when you come back execute in the terminal:   winecfg
[07:17] <aleksanteri> :P
[07:17] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: the winecfg is necessary to create all that stuff like fake c_drive
[07:18] <aleksanteri> ok :P
[07:18] <aleksanteri> i have tried a wine program before
[07:18] <ubuntu_> plz why do i get "instalation crashed" after i want to install kubuntu 6.06.1 or 6.10?
[07:18] <aleksanteri> but it was a beta and didn't work :P
[07:18] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: not all programs work in wine
[07:18] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: winamp unfortunately works only half... :(
[07:18] <Zamber> aleksanteri for what do you need wine?
[07:18] <aleksanteri> well
[07:19] <Clone> plz someone help me
[07:19] <aleksanteri> i am a windows to linux switcher
[07:19] <hyper_ch> Clone: just ask...
[07:19] <aleksanteri> and want my windows apps :D
[07:19] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: I know how you feel :)
[07:19] <Zamber> aleksanteri me too
[07:19] <Clone> ok one sec i wil return
[07:19] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: however I use vmware :)
[07:19] <Zamber> anyway look on synaptic packet manager
[07:20] <aleksanteri> ok
[07:20] <Zamber> and look for substitutes of your faivourite win apps
[07:20] <aleksanteri> well
[07:20] <aleksanteri> i am going to get the coffee now ;)
[07:20] <Zamber> synaptic or adept
[07:20] <Zamber> ;)
[07:21] <Zamber> VCL is better xD
[07:21] <Zamber> !xfce
[07:21] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:21] <billytwowilly> so if I get a "can't read superblock" error when I try to mount a windows share does that mean the hard drive is toast?
[07:21] <aleks|coffee> ;)
[07:21] <hyper_ch> Zamber: winamp has the media library with a few streams and one of those airs Star Gate season 9... :)
[07:21] <ironfroggy_LT> i have installed cupsys to a seperate box, but when i try to browse to (its ip):631, i get nothing. what reasons could there be?
[07:22] <Zamber> hyper_ch you can stream media through VCL also
[07:22] <Zamber> also form m3u
[07:22] <Clone> k so
[07:22] <Zamber> so there's no need to listhen that streams through winamp
[07:22] <Zamber> just get the stream addr
[07:23] <Clone> when i want to isntall kubuntu i choose everzthign needed but when it comes to create a partitions
[07:23] <ironfroggy_LT> any takers? i do, in fact, have access to the box in question.
[07:23] <Clone> it creates i press OK and then my monitor shut down and i ge no  signal message
[07:23] <Clone> then i turn it off and again on
[07:23] <Clone> and when i see desktop
[07:24] <Zamber> !gnome
[07:24] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[07:24] <Clone> it says formating drive E: to ext3
[07:24] <Clone> but nothing happens even after 5mins
[07:24] <Clone> so i pressed ESC and it said Installation crashed
[07:24] <Zamber> formatting takes some time in some cases
[07:24] <Clone> this happened to me with live cd of kubuntu 6.10
[07:24] <ubuntu_> !grub
[07:24] <Zamber> Clone run the liveCD
[07:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:24] <Clone> and live DVD of kubuntu 6.06.1
[07:25] <Clone> zamber i have livecd of 6.10
[07:25] <Zamber> run the GNOME partition manager
[07:25] <pierreth> Zamber: hello
[07:25] <Zamber> not the instal
[07:25] <Clone> and same thing happen
[07:25] <Zamber> hi pierreth
[07:25] <pierreth> Zamber: It seems that KDE was not installed
[07:25] <Zamber> :D
[07:25] <Zamber> don't say xD
[07:26] <Clone> so wat shoudl i do?
[07:26] <pierreth> Zamber: but it was installed yestherday
[07:26] <Zamber> run the livecd
[07:26] <Clone> i run kubuntu 6.10 live cd
[07:26] <Zamber> run the partition manager from it
[07:26] <Clone> and?
[07:26] <pierreth> Zamber: It was a problem since a reset
[07:26] <Zamber> manage to make a nice partition for ubuntu
[07:26] <hyper_ch> Zamber: well, I don't know the streaming urls :) that's the problem... and winamp lists them really nicely... lots of anime and some tv shows
[07:26] <Zamber> and make it
[07:26] <Zamber> not from the install
[07:26] <Clone> i dont want format disk i have pagefile from windows on it
[07:26] <Lam_> is there a terminal command i could use to flip the kde screensaver on and off?
[07:26] <Zamber> but from the partiton manager
[07:27] <Clone> i have 150 GB there
[07:27] <Clone> and want install it there :P
[07:27] <pierreth> Zamber: it was taking a very long to get out of the black screen
[07:27] <Clone> ya from partiotion manager
[07:27] <Clone> and then?
[07:27] <Zamber> Clone so make a partition
[07:27] <pierreth> Zamber: Normally, KDE is a lot faster
[07:27] <Clone> k so
[07:27] <Clone> i do partition
[07:27] <pierreth> Zamber: thank you
[07:27] <Clone> how much for swap
[07:28] <pierreth> Zamber: i will reboot again as a test
[07:28] <Zamber> k ;)
[07:28] <Clone> 150% of my RAM?
[07:28] <Zamber> Clone the swap should be about 3 times of your RAM
[07:28] <Clone> ok
[07:28] <Clone> so 3 GB
[07:28] <Zamber> 3 or 2
[07:28] <Clone> and /home part and /root part?
[07:29] <Zamber> I did evrything on a one partition
[07:29] <Zamber> not mentioning the swap
[07:29] <hyper_ch> clone: root part - depending on your overall diskspace - between 5-10gb...   /home --> the rest of your drive
[07:29] <Zamber> and it works fine ;P
[07:29] <Zamber> hyper_ch he wants to have his win stil lthere
[07:29] <Clone> zeah win there
[07:29] <Clone> yeah
[07:30] <hyper_ch> Zamber: you can do everything in one partition but it is recommended to create an own home partition :)
[07:30] <Clone> just want to install it correctly so i can use dual boot
[07:30] <Zamber> hyper_ch find the place where the playlists are kept and simply copy it somewhere
[07:31] <Clone> wait i reboot with livecd
[07:31] <Zamber> kk
[07:31] <ivoks> hi kubuntu users!
[07:31] <hyper_ch> Zamber: well that's one option but right now I run winamp in my vmware....
[07:32] <ivoks> help us create DVD for those who don't have internet access
[07:32] <ivoks> we need you to get packages list of most used packages
[07:32] <ivoks> if you are interested in helping your community, please visit http://www.ubuntu-hr.org/ningi/
[07:32] <ivoks> (no, this isn't spam :)
[07:33] <Zamber> ivoks if you don't have internet what's the point of running a internet based OS?
[07:33] <Zamber> yes it is xD
[07:33] <ivoks> Zamber: maybe you have, but no broadban
[07:33] <aleksanteri> back
[07:33] <ivoks> -d
[07:34] <weswh-> hmm, i installed the nvidia-glx driver...but didn't 'set it up' or anything. i noticed that amarok wasn't doing the cool 3d visualizations anymore, just the standard 2d ones. when i click through them i get a few blank screens
[07:34] <Zamber> ah, got it ;)
[07:34] <hyper_ch> Zamber: why do you say ubuntu is an internet based os?
[07:34] <claudio_> I need help please
[07:34] <aleksanteri> ok i c how wine works
[07:34] <weswh-> i went into system settings and told the graphics card to use "propiretary" drivers, it says it is now using 'nvidia' (before it was using 'nv') - how can i tell? just want to make sure it's doing everything it can
[07:34] <Zamber> coz evry linux system has it's power in the internet
[07:35] <Zamber> updates, new packages
[07:35] <Zamber> community
[07:35] <claudio_>  i'm new to linux and i want to install gcc?
[07:35] <claudio_> somebody can help me please?
[07:36] <Zappix> Anyone here know if a processor would work if one pin is missing? :P
[07:36] <Zamber> claudio witch version?
[07:36] <Zamber> 4.1 ?
[07:36] <claudio_> it doesnt mathers
[07:36] <Zamber> sudo apt-get install gcc-4.1
[07:36] <campbch> Zappix - try it, let us know :D
[07:36] <Zamber> from the terminal
[07:36] <Lehmytest> Zappix: a p4 did work with one pin less
[07:37] <ivoks> claudio_: apt-get install build-essential :)
[07:37] <campbch> depends which pin?
[07:37] <ivoks> claudio_: withouth ':)' part
[07:37] <Zappix> Lehmytest: seriously? >>
[07:37] <Zamber> xD
[07:37] <Hossie> yes the p4 of my friend did still work
[07:37] <Hossie> and still does
[07:37] <campbch> anyways, if i ususally  use wireless, and i want to use an ethernet connection, how do i tell it to do so?
[07:37] <claudio_> inpossible to find package
[07:37] <campbch> it detects it, has an internal ip and everything
[07:38] <campbch> but i cant connect if i disable wireless?
[07:38] <Zappix> ah..hmm...
[07:38] <Zappix> I have no idea if I want to risk trying though >>;
[07:38] <Zappix> if something goes wrong I'm screwed :D
[07:38] <campbch> it shouldnt break anything, its not like trying to jam something in where it doesnt go
[07:39] <Zamber> claudio_ for witch one?
[07:39] <Zappix> Heh I know someone who did that
[07:39] <campbch> its like not jamming something in where it's meant to go
[07:39] <Zappix> and in return killed his laptop XD
[07:39] <campbch> poor laptop
[07:39] <campbch> :\
[07:39] <Zamber> yeah
[07:39] <Zamber> RIP for him
[07:39] <campbch> ok, if i disable my wireless, how do i connect via ethernet?
[07:39] <campbch> !ethernet
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <campbch> !internet
[07:39] <Zamber> !internet
[07:39] <Zappix> !internet
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <Zamber> :D
[07:39] <Zappix> D:
[07:39] <notech> configure the wired interface
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <campbch> D:
[07:40] <Zappix> !YourMom
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about YourMom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <Vladdy-> !botabuse
[07:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[07:40] <campbch> !botsmack
[07:40] <Zappix> XD
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <Zamber> !Bot
[07:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:40] <Vladdy-> consider yourself warned..
[07:40] <LjL> stop please
[07:40] <ironfroggy_LT> anyone know what i need to do in order to get cups allow connections outside of localhost?
[07:41] <Zappix> I don't think this board has ports for fans though.....I have one you connect to ze cables of the power supply, but that's designed for 200Mhz, don't know if I should try it with 450
[07:41] <aleksanteri> btw has anyone got the code to install opengl? :D
[07:41] <Zappix> Aleksanteri: 42
[07:41] <claudio_> ivoks: whem i execute that yt asks me are you root and them return to the comand line
[07:41] <Zamber> aleksanteri google? :P
[07:42] <ivoks> claudio_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:42] <Zamber> opengl is a rough thing to configure xD
[07:43] <claudio_> ivoks:impossible to find build-essential packadge
[07:43] <Zappix> oh by the way: want to see the computer I'm using?
[07:43] <Zappix> http://dzone.d-padnetwork.com/site/files/Timalook_computer.jpg <-- XP
[07:43] <aleksanteri> wth is that?
[07:43] <ivoks> claudio_: that's k|edu|ubuntu, right?
[07:44] <claudio_> Kubuntu
[07:44] <Zappix> aleksanteri: My computer? :P
[07:44] <aleksanteri> lol
[07:44] <Zappix> It's genius
[07:44] <Zappix> Never felt like putting the motherboard and everything in my case
[07:44] <ivoks> claudio_: did you do sudo apt-get update?
[07:45] <claudio_> yup
[07:46] <inetpro> claudio_: did you update /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <claudio_> ivoks:no
[07:47] <ivoks> run it
[07:47] <Zamber> yeah ;] 
[07:47] <Zamber> xgl/beryl works fine for me ;D
[07:47] <Zappix> uhh
[07:47] <Zappix> Might I have to tinker with my BIOS to get a fan working? >>;
[07:47] <Zappix> I have a port for a fan, but when I plug it in, it doesn't automatically turn on
[07:47] <pierreth> how do you change Konqueror so I need to double click to open a file?
[07:48] <aleksanteri> pierreth: i did it once...
[07:48] <aleksanteri> wait a sec
[07:48] <pierreth> aleksanteri: OK
[07:48] <max_> does anyone dual boot linux and win98?
[07:48] <BluesKaj> I did at one time
[07:48] <max_> where did you get win98 drivers? i cant find any
[07:48] <max_> only XP stuff
[07:49] <aleksanteri> pierreth: found it
[07:49] <BluesKaj> been a while
[07:49] <ironfroggy_LT> are there any scripts i can install to more easily configure cups to be used by my local network?
[07:49] <swami> anyone tryed the 2.6.19 kenel?
[07:49] <Zappix> Might I have to tinker with my BIOS to get a fan working? >>;
[07:49] <Zappix> I have a port for a fan, but when I plug it in, it doesn't automatically turn on
[07:49] <Zappix> =/
[07:49] <max_> BluesKaj: oh, ok
[07:49] <aleksanteri> pierreth: System settings -> mouse
[07:49] <swami> anyonre tryed the new 2.6.19 kenel?
[07:49] <ironfroggy_LT> i am trying to grok exactly what configuration i need to change how, but it seems a common thing to do, i thought there has to be something easier.
[07:49] <aleksanteri> and it's there
[07:50] <pierreth> aleksanteri: thank you
[07:50] <claudio_> ivoks: sorry my lack of knoledge but it is sudo apt-get update /etc/apt/sources.list or only update /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:50] <aleksanteri> np
[07:50] <ivoks> sudo apt-get update
[07:50] <swami>  anyone tryed the 2.6.19 kenel?
[07:51] <pierreth> aleksanteri: i have no mouse in system settings
[07:51] <BluesKaj> ! Feisty Herd
[07:51] <claudio_> ivoks:yes and next(sorry newbie)
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Feisty Herd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <ivoks> claudio_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:51] <BluesKaj> ! Feisty Herd 1
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Feisty Herd 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <Zamber> !eyecandy
[07:52] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:52] <aleksanteri> pierreth: oh
[07:52] <pierreth> aleksanteri: OK, I have it in kcontrol only
[07:52] <claudio_> ivoks:impossible to find build-essential packadge
[07:52] <ivoks> claudio_: why do you need gcc?
[07:52] <pierreth> aleksanteri: It is not my system settings
[07:53] <aleksanteri> w/e
[07:53] <claudio_> for programing
[07:53] <ivoks> claudio_: did you enable internet repositorys?
[07:53] <aleksanteri> i am running a finnish version and the translations aren't accurate sometimes :|
[07:53] <claudio_> whf is that
[07:53] <claudio_> i dont know
[07:53] <pierreth> i have a broken translation of kde, how can i fix?
[07:53] <aleksanteri> !changethemes
[07:53] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[07:54] <ivoks> ok... i don't use KDE
[07:54] <ivoks> could someome explain claudio_ how to enable internet repositories?
[07:54] <claudio_> lol
[07:54] <ivoks> no?
[07:54] <claudio_> thank you for your time :)
[07:55] <ivoks> claudio_: you need to enable ubuntu repositories
[07:55] <ivoks> claudio_: thousands of programs are there
[07:55] <ivoks> come on kubuntu community :)
[07:56] <inetpro> claudio_: You have Adept?
[07:56] <claudio_> ivoks: im ready to quit Kubuntu whitch other distribuition would you will be good for my
[07:56] <claudio_> yes
[07:56] <inetpro> K Menu->System->Adept (Package Manager)
[07:56] <ivoks> kubuntu is ok
[07:57] <claudio_> inetpor: and anext
[07:57] <inetpro> Select View->Manage Repositories  in the Adept package manager window
[07:58] <inetpro> To enable the Universe repository, find the repository line with the Universe Component, and right click the line and select Enable.
[07:58] <ivoks> inetpro: he needs main too :)
[07:58] <swami> nolimitsoya .....do u have sata hdd?
[07:58] <inetpro> Oops.. right
[07:59] <BluesKaj> those repos should be enabled by default
[07:59] <swami> nolimitsoya .....do u have sata hdd?
[08:01] <ivoks> BluesKaj: i'm not sure; if you install it offline
[08:02] <weswh-> ok, so i am really getting myself into trouble here. i am trying to get my system to work with the official nvida driver. i found a tutorial online and ran "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable", and got a warning about Xorg and MD5 and not being able to do it, or something
[08:02] <ironfroggy_LT> someone here has to have configured CUPS before, right?
[08:02] <ivoks> right
[08:03] <Clone> can someone tell me how can i install kubuntu on my HD so i can use it in dualboot win winxp?
[08:03] <claudio_> i dont know if my prob is that im runnig it on a virtual machine?!?!?!
[08:03] <weswh-> so i went into my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and looked to see if the driver was marked nv, or nvidia - it was marked nvidia. (i had already changed that in System Settings). anyways, i also noticed some stuff in there about 640x480 - which is the resolultion i am stuck in now after a reboot
[08:03] <weswh-> is there a way I can make the system regenerate a new optimal xorg config or something?
[08:03] <ivoks> claudio_: just install it :)
[08:03] <max_> Clone: partition off some space for Linux...install windows first, the install linux the the other partition
[08:04] <ivoks> claudio_: does your virtual machine has access to internet?
[08:04] <claudio_> yes im talking by it
[08:04] <weswh-> in System Settings now, it won't even let me drag the resolution up, in admin mode. it does see the correct hardware still though
[08:04] <claudio_> its vmware player
[08:04] <weswh-> is there an xorg configuration tool?
[08:05] <inetpro> claudio_: it shouldn't make a diff
[08:05] <claudio_> my native system is windows and them im running  Kubuntu on vmware player
[08:05] <Xenol> za,ber
[08:05] <Xenol> zamber
[08:05] <inetpro> claudio_: can you choose something else to install?
[08:05] <Xenol> i am on livecd
[08:06] <claudio_> something else?!??!like what
[08:07] <Dr_willis> Moo!?!?!?
[08:07] <inetpro> claudio_: what you get when you do sudo apt-get update
[08:07] <weswh-> what can i do to get back to 1280x1024, at least?
[08:07] <Moo> Dr_willis!
[08:07] <Dr_willis> cowsay | figlet
[08:07] <Xenol> plz someone
[08:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:07] <weswh-> do i need to manually edit the resolution references in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:07] <Xenol> i create partitions
[08:07] <claudio_> reading list of packadges...ready
[08:07] <Xenol> and then press isntall
[08:07] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  thats always an option.
[08:08] <Xenol> for root which is bets filesystem?
[08:08] <inetpro> claudio_: that all?
[08:08] <Xenol> REISERFS or ext?
[08:08] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  when in doubt - use ext3
[08:08] <claudio_> yes it all
[08:08] <Zamber> re
[08:08] <Zamber> had some problems with beryl :P
[08:08] <Xenol> Dr_willis how much for wat swap 3 GB root 20 GB and rest for home?
[08:09] <Dr_willis> 3gb of swap is a big huge. :)
[08:09] <Zamber> he has 1gb ram
[08:09] <weswh-> Dr_willis: what are the others? i am sure that my graphics card isn't working properly even though it says it is using the nvida driver and nvidia-glx is installed. like when i hit "logout", it takes it a few seconds to 'redraw' the screen with the gray color.
[08:09] <Xenol> so how much
[08:09] <Dr_willis> but it also depends on your actual ram.
[08:09] <Xenol> 1GB
[08:09] <ironfroggy_LT> so if people have obviously configured CUPS before, one might be right to assume they have an idea where docs can be found on opening CUPS up to a local network, right?
[08:09] <Skrot> 1-2gb swap is enough then
[08:09] <Dr_willis> i always put at least 512mb.. 2gb is proberly plenty.
[08:09] <Skrot> 3 is too much
[08:09] <Xenol> so 2GB
[08:09] <Xenol> ?
[08:09] <Skrot> yeah
[08:10] <Skrot> I've got 2GB ram and 4GB swap, never use more than 100MB of that swap :p
[08:10] <Skrot> wasted space :(
[08:10] <inetpro> claudio_: when you do 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' paste for us the lines that don't start with a hash (#)
[08:10] <Xenol> k got swap how much for root ? ;P
[08:10] <BluesKaj> Skrot, why so large swap
[08:10] <Dr_willis> right now i am using 128 out of 1.5 gb of ram.. no swap used at all
[08:10] <Skrot> Xenol: You usually just need a / and a swap. Set swap to 2*ram and / to rest
[08:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[08:11] <claudio_> wait i thing i get it
[08:11] <Skrot> BluesKaj: Think kubuntu install CD follows the old 2*ram=swap.
[08:11] <Xenol> Dr_willis for root 20 GB is enough?
[08:11] <Skrot> 20GB is more than enough for the system
[08:11] <BluesKaj> 1g should be plenty of swap ... thay old rule goes for smaller memory
[08:11] <Xenol> ok
[08:11] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  should be.. it have 1.75TB of drive space... so i dont worry about sizes much. :P
[08:12] <weswh-> Dr_willis: ok, i am really screwing myself now. I just ran 'sudo dexconf', and ended up with an xorg.conf file that is much smaller, and makes no mention of my specific graphics hardware etc.
[08:12] <Xenol> and wat is / partiotion? smth like /home?
[08:12] <Xenol> Dr_willis lol
[08:12] <alelurmopu> hi all
[08:12] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  dexconf? never heard of that one.
[08:12] <weswh-> surely there is a way to get it to reevaluate my system, like it did at install, and come up with an appropriate file?
[08:12] <claudio_> i forgot to do apply on adept(loll)
[08:12] <ivoks> :)
[08:12] <Bent> regarding cups: http://127.0.0.1:631
[08:12] <Skrot> Xenol: / is the root. All the subfolders are on the same partition unless you create specific partitions for it (such as /home)
[08:12] <Dr_willis> dpkg-reconfigure xorg (or somthing like that)
[08:12] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[08:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:12] <weswh-> Dr_willis: it was mentioned in the xorg.conf file - said it was generated by dexconf, the Debian Xorg Configuration Tool
[08:12] <inetpro> you welcome
[08:13] <Skrot> Xenol: On desktop computers you seldom need to create more than just the root
[08:13] <inetpro> we all been there
[08:13] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  you got a nvidia or ati card?
[08:13] <alelurmopu> when I try to configure my key map in kcontrol i find that there aren't any Available Layouts
[08:13] <alelurmopu> How can I add them ?!
[08:13] <Xenol> skrot, so u suggest that i create / and home?
[08:13] <claudio_> Thank you all for the help!!!!!!!!:)
[08:13] <weswh-> Dr_willis: nvidia.
[08:13] <Skrot> Xenol: I'd just create /
[08:13] <ivoks> np
[08:13] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  nvidia has its own x config generation program as well.
[08:13] <weswh-> the whole reason i was messing with this was trying to use the nvidia driver.
[08:13] <weswh-> really?
[08:13] <Dr_willis> yes. :P
[08:13] <raphink> I suggest creating / and /home
[08:13] <Xenol> skrot, then i got 100+ GB free :/
[08:13] <Dr_willis> cofiguration of X is avery very.... interesting topic. :)
[08:14] <weswh-> Dr_willis: would that be avail to me if i installed nvidia-glx?
[08:14] <raphink> at least because it allows to reinstall without losing the docs
[08:14] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  the default xorg.conf the system made 'may' be backed up.. look in /etc/X11/
[08:14] <Zamber> how to disable gamma in the kde menu?
[08:14] <raphink> Xenol:
[08:14] <ivoks> raphink: hi!
[08:14] <Xenol> skot, is there any way to install GRUB somewhere else then to win disk MBR?
[08:14] <raphink> hi ivoks :)
[08:14] <raphink> how are you man?
[08:14] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  its rather simple to get the nvidia drivers installed these days.. about 4 lines on the shell. :)
[08:14] <Xenol> raphin , ya?
[08:14] <ivoks> great, you?
[08:15] <raphink> ivoks: I'm great :)
[08:15] <raphink> Xenol: I suggest you use / and /home
[08:15] <Xenol> i do it
[08:15] <weswh-> Dr_willis: well, the "sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable" command is what started my troubles, it seems
[08:15] <raphink> Xenol: so you can safely reinstall if you need, without touching your documents
[08:15] <Xenol> but i want to install GRUB somewhere else than to windows MBR
[08:15] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  and what 'troubles' are those...
[08:15] <raphink> Xenol: e.g. if you want ot install a clean feasty in a few months instead of dist-upgrading
[08:15] <weswh-> not sure if that is right or not, just something i found online
[08:15] <weswh-> Dr_willis: well, booting into 640x480 mainly :P
[08:16] <Xenol> possible to install it to lin disk?
[08:16] <claudio_> Gcc is runnig..... Cool ty again
[08:16] <weswh-> do you know of any good guides online dealing with the nvidia drivers and x configuration?
[08:16] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you can install grub most anywhere.. getting it to boot - is the harder part.
[08:16] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[08:16] <weswh-> i've been getting a lot of conflicting info on google
[08:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:16] <Skrot> Xenol: 100+GB free? Thought you said you only had 20?
[08:16] <Xenol> skrot, i will describe
[08:16] <Skrot> Xenol: If you've got 120-ish, just make everything /
[08:16] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  the official nvidia docs on their driver is well worth reading/printing out.
[08:17] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  the ubuntu wiki page on how to install them - needs reworked.
[08:17] <Skrot> Xenol: except the 2GB you make swap
[08:17] <Xenol> skrot, i have 135 GB free i want it like this 20 GB root 2 GB swap and home rest
[08:17] <Skrot> Xenol: okay, then you make 20GB /, 2GB swap and 113GB /home
[08:17] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  you may just need to run the KDE screen res configuration tool and slider the slider to the hither res. or it could be your system thinks your monitor cant do any higher
[08:17] <Xenol> skrot, and i am interested if it is possible somehow easily install GRUB somewhere else than MBR of win
[08:18] <BluesKaj> weswh-, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:18] <Dr_willis> Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device
[08:18] <inetpro> Xenol: I always make a spare partition to allow for installing a new version at a later stage
[08:19] <Xenol> skrot, and BTW root need to be primary but home need to be priamary?
[08:19] <Skrot> No idea about primary :)
[08:19] <Dr_willis> I always make all my partitions 'primary'
[08:19] <inetpro> then you can decide to work with the new or if you have trouble go back to old
[08:19] <Dr_willis> just easier to do it that way
[08:19] <weswh-> Dr_willis: at the present time, i can't raise the slider any higher
[08:19] <Xenol> intepro k i will leave 15 GB free
[08:20] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, he needs to be in admin mode
[08:20] <Xenol> skrot, so i make partitions and wat now
[08:20] <weswh-> Dr_willis: following these links, going to try the configure-enable again, last time it gave me issues
[08:20] <ironfroggy_LT> i found a cups doc that covers what im trying to do, but it mentions some 'linuxconf' utility that i cant find. what is that?
[08:20] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  on a new system - getting nvidia going is about a 2 min job for me.
[08:20] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  install 3 or 4 packages.. run that one command.. restartX.
[08:21] <campbch> could someone test 71.144.87.50 for me and tell me if it worked?
[08:21] <campbch> i dont have access to a computer outside the network
[08:21] <weswh-> Dr_willis: according to this it's only 1 package now. yeah, i will see if the command gives me the same error, hang on
[08:21] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  well that package has othe rdependencies. :P watch the messages - it proberly downloads 2 others.
[08:21] <Xenol> DR_willis in QTparted i have options like "begin of unallocated space" and "end of unallocated space" wat should i choose?
[08:22] <ironfroggy_LT> there is no way it makes sense for configuring CUPS to be this freaking hard to find out
[08:22] <campbch> is it working? anyone? :(
[08:22] <mc__> where  to get linuxconf?
[08:22] <ironfroggy_LT> mc__: i dunno, thats what i was asking
[08:22] <campbch> cups liked me, i guess... as long as the network is working, and i know what model the printer is for the driver, i've only had a problem when i first started
[08:23] <ironfroggy_LT> campbch: but how do you get cups to accept non-localhost connections?
[08:23] <ironfroggy_LT> such a simple thing and i cant get a shred of information on it
[08:23] <weswh-> Dr_willis: mind if i pm you the output i get from running that command?
[08:24] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  which command. :)
[08:24] <Xenol> skrot, so wat now if i made partitions?
[08:24] <mathiouzz> hi everyone
[08:25] <Xenol> skrot, well i have them in qtparted but how to create them?
[08:25] <Skrot> Xenol: I've never used qtparted
[08:25] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  yes.. it is detecting a  'changed' xorg.conf file.
[08:25] <weswh-> should i run the md5 command it asks about?
[08:25] <Skrot> Xenol: But usually you also need to format the partitions
[08:25] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  just check your xorg.conf and see if the Driver line. is set to 'nvidia' or 'nv'
[08:25] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  thats all that really needs to be changed.
[08:26] <Xenol> skrot, but when i use install icon on desktop i get isntallation crashed error dunno why it will make partitions but not format em
[08:26] <cloakable> Are there any PCMCIA bootdisks for Ubuntu?
[08:26] <Xenol> skrot. and in QTparted cant format those partitions cause they r only logical aint created yet and i am confused how to create em :/
[08:26] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:27] <weswh-> Dr_willis: none at all. the screen section is set to Generic Video Card, Generic Monitor, etc.
[08:27] <RawSewage> how do you use sox to batch convert a bunch of audio files
[08:27] <Zamber> beryl is funny :D
[08:27] <Zamber> when focused on one window it has more that 60fps
[08:27] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  do a ............   cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[08:27] <cloakable> !pcmcia
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <Zamber> changet to xchat it has 20 xD
[08:27] <Dr_willis>  Driver         "nvidia"
[08:27] <Dr_willis> is what i get..
[08:27] <Zamber> !beryl
[08:27] <Dr_willis> if its 'nv' you need to change it.
[08:27] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:27] <weswh-> its vesa, but i will check with cat
[08:28] <Xenol> skrot, partitions r made wat now? how to install kubuntu on disk and also GRUB?
[08:28] <weswh-> (this all got screwed up when i ran the dxconf tool..or whatever).
[08:28] <Dr_willis> Then theres your main issue. :) change vesa to nvidia and restart X and see if it takes off.
[08:28] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  OR see if theres a backup of your original X config.
[08:28] <Dr_willis> restore it.. then check its Driver Line.
[08:28] <mathiouzz> has someone already got problems with dvd burning under ubuntu ?
[08:29] <Xenol> dr_willis i have made partiotions with QTparted how can i install kubuntu and GRUB now plz?
[08:29] <mathiouzz> xenol just follow the installation script
[08:29] <mathiouzz> no ?
[08:29] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you realize that the installer can do that all for you.. :)
[08:29] <mathiouzz> yeah
[08:29] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  start the isntaller.. tell it where to mount / and /home to... and let it go..
[08:29] <mathiouzz> far better
[08:30] <thomas> hi
[08:30] <weswh-> do i need all of the special things the file had before (like specifically saying it was a Geforce FX5200 and all that), or can i just change the driver, and leave it all looking pretty bare?
[08:30] <Xenol> dr_willis i know but ppl said to use QTparted :}
[08:30] <mathiouzz> xenol then ok use qt parted but after make a standard install
[08:31] <thomas> is there anybody who can tell me briefly how to make my tv tuner work? I did that once before and I read the notes, but now I am not able to repeat it...
[08:31] <mathiouzz> and when it'll ask for the partitions to format and so one select the one you wish to be your root partition etc ..
[08:31] <Xenol> mathiouzz, GRUB will be installed automatically?
[08:31] <mathiouzz> sorry thomas don't know it
[08:31] <BluesKaj> GParted is much better and easier to use , but it has tobe downloaded and burned to cd , but works as alive cd ...I think it's the best so far :)
[08:31] <mathiouzz> course xenol
[08:32] <BluesKaj> thomas, which tv tuner?
[08:32] <thomas> blueskaj: there is a conexant CX23881 chip on it and the tuner hardware is a philips FM1216ME
[08:33] <Xenol> mathiouzz, which is home? /media?
[08:33] <thomas> blueskaj: I know I need the modules cx88xx and cx8800
[08:33] <BluesKaj> ok sounds like an ati wonder pro
[08:33] <mathiouzz> by default you only need 2 partitions : one root (/) and swap
[08:34] <Xenol> i want also home
[08:34] <BluesKaj> ok, what kind of video feed do you have thomas ?
[08:34] <mathiouzz> so make another partition with /home inside then ;)
[08:34] <Xenol> which mount point should i select for it?
[08:34] <mathiouzz> ./home
[08:34] <thomas> blueskaj: I want to use the antenna signal (if you mean that by video feed)
[08:34] <Xenol> dont  have it there :/
[08:34] <mathiouzz> pm xenol
[08:34] <Xenol> by default /media is set there
[08:35] <Xenol> mathiouzz, sec i need to register for PMs
[08:36] <BluesKaj> yes , thomas, ok here's a URL that will help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198703.
[08:36] <Dr_willis> Time to learn some linux fundamentals.. heh heh
[08:37] <thomas> blueskaj: thanks. I will check that and hopefully come back with a positiv result.
[08:37] <mathiouzz> l
[08:37] <mathiouzz> ok
[08:37] <weswh-> Dr_willis: i found a backup file (from before i even changed things in System Settings). it was set to nv, with all of the right resolutions. i changed that to nvidia. earlier i also tried commenting out the Wacom driver areas - and x wouldn't even start when I booted up. if i remove those again, and then at the bottom of the file..
[08:37] <BluesKaj> it worked for me ...i have the same chips and tuner , thomas
[08:38] <weswh-> where it says 'Server Layout', should i be ok?
[08:38] <weswh-> (i don't have anything wacom, and it's producing errors sometimes)
[08:38] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  dont worry about the wacom stuff.. its not a problem.. and trivial to fix. IF you reaize what all to coment out.  yes it has settings for wacom in the middle and bottom of the file
[08:38] <Xenol> mathiouzz?
[08:39] <weswh-> ok, i will leave it alone. do i need to restart my entire computer, or can i use that ctrl+alt+bckspc (i think?) to restart x?
[08:39] <weswh-> (if that will leave my irc session etc. in tact)
[08:39] <sinisterguy> is there any similar program to tomboy for kde?
[08:41] <Xenol> dr_willis one question when i selec from mount point i cant find there /home wat should i choose?
[08:41] <Xenol> dr_willis, nvm it seem i blind or drunk
[08:41] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  :)
[08:41] <Dr_willis> or both
[08:42] <Xenol> k when i set it should i tick reformat ?
[08:42] <weswh-> ok, back to a decent res now...but i am not seeing the 'nvidia splash screen' that everything mentions
[08:42] <weswh-> things definitely seem smoother though
[08:42] <inetpro> sinisterguy: have you used tomboy?
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> sinisterguy, knotes
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> weswh-, could you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:44] <mathiouzz> have someone already encountered errors during dvd burning ?
[08:44] <weswh-> Admiral_Chicago: sure. (also all of my visualizations in amarok are working now).
[08:44] <mathiouzz> like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36104/
[08:45] <mathiouzz> help me please
[08:45] <notech> weswh-: try, glxinfo | grep -i rendering
[08:45] <ironfroggy_LT> ok i think i have things configured so i can use CUPS throughout my network, but i cant configure it because its asking me to go to https://server-host-name:631/admin, which is redirecting to a google lucky search for "server host name" when it cant find it. what gives?
[08:45] <ironfroggy_LT> ping server-host-name does work
[08:45] <inetpro> knotes? Tomboy is a desktop note-taking application maybe that's where it's similar to knotes but then....
[08:45] <inetpro> lets you organise your notes
[08:45] <inetpro>  intelligently by allowing you to easily link ideas together with Wiki style interconnects.
[08:46] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: server-host-name is your hostname
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> i have a problem with my X settings, basically beryl borked my install and i'm stuck on GNOME
[08:46] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: i know that...
[08:46] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: what im saying, is why cant firefox find it when i can in fact ping it, ssh to it, etc.
[08:46] <BluesKaj> mathiouzz, K3b ?
[08:47] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: oh, sorry. this on the same box as the cups server?
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> inetpro, i'm not sure if you can do that in Knotes
[08:47] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: no, im setting CUPS on my server.
[08:47] <BluesKaj> beryl is a screwup for ATI cards...it's dangerous
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> tomboy works on KDE for the most part, just a few bugs
[08:47] <weswh-> Admiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36107/
[08:47] <inetpro> don't think so either
[08:48] <weswh-> notech: Direct Rendering: Yes
[08:48] <Admiral_Chicago> weswh-, give me a sec, I'm multi tasking
[08:48] <notech> weswh-: then 3D drivers are working
[08:49] <Xenol> dr_willis when i have in mount screen disk as hda 1 hda 2 it will mount them into linux?
[08:50] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  i dont have the installer memorized.. its not too hard to figure them out. You want one to be mounted as / and the other as /home
[08:50] <Xenol> yeah but not win disk which r HDA i gues
[08:51] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  this is when you have to learn how linux handles drives and what disks are what.. you just ran gparted.. you diodent notice which ones are what?
[08:51] <Xenol> then i should leave those as default set / and /home tick reformat and wait to install em and GRUB and then use kubuntu on HD?
[08:51] <ubuntu_> is there a way to detect a hdd after linux has booted up even if the hdd wasn't pluged in when the bios was detecting the hardware?
[08:51] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  you plugged in an IDE drive while the ystem was powered up?
[08:51] <ironfroggy_LT> so how does my client find my server by hostname anyway?
[08:51] <ironfroggy_LT> because it seems to work some places but not others.
[08:52] <BluesKaj> Xenol, windows will be hda1,.if you are adding linux to a a new partition it will be hda2 or 3
[08:52] <Xenol> HDA= first psychical disk HDB=second psychical disk on HDA i have windows and on HDB one 100 GB
[08:52] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: seems odd if you can ping by host name
[08:52] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: i thought so too
[08:52] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: believe it has to do with the hosts file
[08:52] <ironfroggy_LT> ...
[08:52] <ironfroggy_LT> duh. i was in an ssh session on that box when i ran ping
[08:53] <notech> heh
[08:53] <ubuntu_> ya, it works in windows.  i've been told it damages the hdd, but in this case i've got no choice
[08:53] <weswh-> has anyone run Deluge (bittorrent client) on Edgy?
[08:53] <Dr_willis> never heard of it weswh-
[08:53] <Xenol> dr_willis i got smth like no root user WTF is that?
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> weswh-, i run Ktorrent.
[08:53] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  no idea.. i would guess you are trying to hard to do things that the instller should be making trivially easy.
[08:54] <weswh-> it's new, gtk based...but supposedly very good. yeah, i am running ktorrent also at the moment. i wish it had a "test connection" feature like azureus does
[08:54] <thomas> blueskaj: thx for the link. I can now get a picture with tvtimer, but still no sound...
[08:54] <weswh-> or i knew another way to test my incoming port connections
[08:54] <thomas> blueskaj: the mixer settings are not the reason
[08:54] <Dr_willis> wine utorrent.exe
[08:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:54] <zorglu_> weswh-: what is supposed to be very good in it ?
[08:54] <Xenol> dr_willis one question while i am installing should i be surfing and watching film or wait till installation is done?
[08:55] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  i never use the live cd installer.. i always use the alternative cd/installer... I doubt if web surfing will slow it down much
[08:55] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: have you heard they just sold the source to bittorrent inc and the original author will no mnore dev on it ?
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> weswh-, okay your X is okay, maybe the splash screen will appear when you reboot.
[08:55] <Dr_willis> anything else accessing the hd can slow it down
[08:55] <weswh-> zorglu_: well, i don't know much about it all. but i have heard that ktorrent isn't optimal for the speeds of the entire swarm, or something.
[08:55] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok
[08:55] <ubuntu_> i'm running a live cd on a laptop.  i forgot the bios pw, so the boot order is stuck at: floppy, hdd, cd.  so to boot from cd i have to remove the hdd, and now i want my live cd to see the hdd, but how?
[08:55] <BluesKaj> thomas, be sure to change the card: options cx88xx card=5" > cx88xx,  to: options cx88xx card=4" > cx88xx
[08:56] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: put in the hosts file the ip and host name of the box you want to access by hostname
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu_, sudo fdisk l-
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> then mount it
[08:56] <ironfroggy_LT> ubuntu_: so take out the battery and reset the bios
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> also, you could reset the bios PW by clearing the CMOS
[08:56] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: already got it, now that i realized my mistake. thanks.
[08:56] <ubuntu_> i've reset the bios, the pw won't reset
[08:56] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: ok :)
[08:57] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: phone your vendor and ask for the bypass
[08:57] <zorglu_> !netinstall | ubuntu_
[08:57] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:57] <ubuntu_> dell sucks and  this thing was out of warernty a long time ago
[08:58] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: the first link will give you way ot install ubuntu wihotut booting on cd
[08:58] <notech> it'll be a header that you jump differently, at least on Dell's i've seen
[08:58] <ubuntu_> who said nething about installing ubuntu?
[08:58] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: ok what do you wanna do ?
[08:59] <ubuntu_> i want to mount the hdd
[08:59] <ironfroggy_LT> ubuntu_: one option is to use a floppy bootloader
[08:59] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: ok plug it then
[08:59] <DennisTT> Why isn't Kubuntu letting me have a higher resolution than 853x6__
[08:59] <Dr_willis> DennisTT,  i would guess either the video card drivers are confused.. or need installed, or the montor settings are wrong.
[08:59] <zorglu_> DennisTT: a matter of driver/monitor configuration
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> !res
[08:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:00] <ubuntu_> where do i get a floppy bootloader? i've looked, the only thing i can find tells me how to get one from my hdd and put it on floppy
[09:00] <notech> DennisTT: verify the refresh rates in xorg.conf match your monitor specs
[09:00] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: the link i gave you will provide it
[09:00] <DennisTT> Thanks
[09:01] <notech> root: is not very wise to irc as root
[09:01] <coreymon77> is not very wise to do anything as root other than what needs to be done as root
[09:02] <ironfroggy_LT> where can i get the command lpadmin?
[09:02] <notech> better and more complete :)
[09:02] <zorglu_> !info lpadmin
[09:02] <ubotu> Package lpadmin does not exist in any distro I know
[09:02] <zorglu_> not there:)
[09:03] <ironfroggy_LT> now i know i can get it
[09:03] <Xenol> dr_willis last question GRUB will be isntaalled to HD0 which disk is that?
[09:03] <ironfroggy_LT> ive used it on two kubuntu boxes already
[09:03] <Fragrag> Why am I stuck on 'waiting for header' when I want to install something?
[09:03] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: not sure, but it should be one of the cups packages. might search for cups packages
[09:04] <ironfroggy_LT> i have it installed on another box, how can i find what package it comes from?
[09:04] <zorglu_> ironfroggy_LT:
[09:04] <zorglu_> $ dpkg -S /usr/sbin/lpadmin
[09:04] <zorglu_> cupsys-client: /usr/sbin/lpadmin
[09:04] <weswh-> i just plugged in a firewire hard drive (hfs) - it pulled it right up, but it says unmounted. i can see the contents in /media/System Drive/ - how can i tell what device it is to mount it? amarok seemed to think sda something?
[09:05] <ironfroggy_LT> thanks. i thought it should turn up in apt-cache search lpadmin
[09:05] <ironfroggy_LT> would be nice if my kind of printer (very common model) was supported out of the box. how i go about getting that done?
[09:05] <ironfroggy_LT> i dont want others to suffer as i have!
[09:05] <notech> weswh-:  dmesg should show it
[09:06] <zorglu_> ironfroggy_LT: i dont have any printer :)
[09:06] <ironfroggy_LT> zorglu_: get one already, its 2006!
[09:06] <zorglu_> yep and soon 2007!!!
[09:06] <zorglu_> just after that i heard 2008 :)
[09:06] <zorglu_> wow time flies by :)
[09:06] <ironfroggy_LT> dont it tho?
[09:07] <zorglu_> and they are hard to configure :) bla :)
[09:07] <ironfroggy_LT> hey you can get a networked printer-scanner-fax for under a 100 bucks. its time to buy.
[09:07] <Dreary> Hi, any Polish is here? =)
[09:07] <zorglu_> !pl
[09:07] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:07] <zorglu_> a lot there :)
[09:07] <inetpro> ironfroggy_LT: did you look at http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[09:07] <Zamber> hej ;)
[09:07] <weswh-> notech: as far as creating a new mount point (in /media) is that typically a root operation?
[09:07] <Dreary> siema / good to know :] 
[09:07] <Xenol> who can help me with installation plz?
[09:07] <ironfroggy_LT> inetpro: yes
[09:07] <Zamber> zorglu_ polska? :P
[09:07] <weswh-> but when things are mounted, they are generally avail to users?
[09:08] <Dreary> So im goin to #ubuntu-pl
[09:08] <ironfroggy_LT> inetpro: but that isnt as helpful as just being able to use my printer out of the box.
[09:08] <Xenol> PLZ someone
[09:08] <Xenol> why i get this?
[09:08] <zorglu_> Zamber: well i know the !pl :) this is all i know :)
[09:08] <DennisTT> Thank you zorglu_
[09:08] <DennisTT> That seemed to fix it
[09:08] <notech> weswh-: root, sudo, whichever. it isn't writable to by a user
[09:08] <inetpro> ironfroggy_LT: i hear you... been there too
[09:08] <Zamber> !ru
[09:08] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:08] <Zamber> :D
[09:08] <zorglu_> DennisTT: cool :) event if i dont remember what i tol dyou :)
[09:09] <ironfroggy_LT> ok why is CUPS making me to go to https and not actually working? i can find the box now, but it wont connect via https, which i dont care if i dont use.
[09:09] <weswh-> notech: hmm, i was wrong - this is actually a mounted removable medium. the problem is the files i need are locked. this is an HFS drive, from a mac computer i had that died. similar file systems and all, any clue about that?
[09:09] <weswh-> taking the data from one machine to another like that, it isn't really 'protected' is it?
[09:10] <notech> weswh-: sorry, never dealt with HFS
[09:10] <ironfroggy_LT> can i make cups not care about https?
[09:10] <weswh-> notech: well, it seems to be a local issue. i go to a folder and it says "sorry, you don't have enough permissions to access this folder"
[09:12] <Xenol> Traceback (most recent call last):
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 166, in ?
[09:12] <Xenol>     main()
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 161, in main
[09:12] <ubuntu__> Hi! I have a problem installing kubuntu 6.10. After partitioning and copying all files the installer hangs at 99% "Downloading package lists".
[09:12] <Xenol>     install(sys.argv[1] )
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 57, in install
[09:12] <notech> weswh-: then it was mounted for only root access
[09:12] <weswh-> ok, practical advice here - i had this problem before. in order to access the data on the drive, i have to go into kdesu konqueror - the only problem is that when i do this, and copy the files to my home directory, they all end up being owned by root, and i have to change the permissions.
[09:12] <Xenol>     ret = wizard.run()
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 336, in run
[09:12] <ubuntu__> Any help appreciated!
[09:12] <Xenol>     self.progress_loop()
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 580, in progress_loop
[09:13] <weswh-> notech: ah, how can i 'remount' it for user access?
[09:13] <Xenol>     if dbfilter.run_command(auto_process=True) != 0:
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/filteredcommand.py", line 153, in run_command
[09:13] <Xenol>     self.start(auto_process=auto_process)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/filteredcommand.py", line 62, in start
[09:13] <Xenol>     self.db = DebconfCommunicator(PACKAGE, cloexec=True)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 125, in __init__
[09:13] <zorglu_> Xenol: i see the bug:)
[09:13] <Xenol>     write=self.dccomm.tochild)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 48, in __init__
[09:13] <Xenol>     self.setUp(title)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 51, in setUp
[09:13] <Xenol>     self.version = self.version(2)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 60, in <lambda>
[09:13] <notech> weswh-: i'm not on kubuntu at the moment but if its similar, mount it with the umask=0 option
[09:13] <Xenol>     lambda *args, **kw: self.command(command, *args, **kw))
[09:14] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 81, in command
[09:14] <Xenol>     status = int(status)
[09:14] <Xenol> ValueError: invalid literal for int():
[09:14] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  learning to do things with the shell.. is much safer then running konqueror as root
[09:14] <Xenol> why i get this
[09:14] <Xenol> when i want to isntall?
[09:14] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you realize that most people have you on ignore now.
[09:14] <zorglu_> Xenol: because you dont know how to use pastebin
[09:14] <ibert> Is there a tool like Grip for the command line? want to run it on a box without display.
[09:15] <junky> hello
[09:15] <ubuntu__> ibert: use cdparanoia
[09:15] <Dr_willis> ibert,  you could always use vnc, and have a remote desktop on it. there are command line ripper tools out. check freshmeat.net
[09:15] <junky> plz, someone can help me?? i'm new in kubuntu
[09:15] <Dr_willis> junky,  #1 - ask a question. Phrase it well...
[09:15] <junky> my sound don't work
[09:15] <thomas> BluesKaj: sorry for disturbing again. I check everything: the hardware (cables) the settings described in the link you gave me and the kmixer settings. I still do net get sound.
[09:15] <zorglu_> ibert: you can just ssh forwarding too, you would have k3b running on the non display box and you will use the nice gui
[09:16] <Dr_willis> junky,  and your sound card is a ?
[09:16] <junky> i try with drivers... but im new... and i do   a lot of time here
[09:16] <thomas> blueskaj: what I found out: when I change the volume slector in kdetv, nothing changes in kmixer. Is there any device I need to set?
[09:16] <Xenol> zorglu, so i wont be able to install kubuntu?
[09:16] <ibert> zorglu_: yeah I know. but this is machine without X its jast my LAMP
[09:16] <zorglu_> !sound | junky
[09:16] <ubotu> junky: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:16] <Xenol> i also tried 6.06.1 and same shit
[09:16] <Xenol> Dr_willis i know but none could helped me cause i get same bug everytime i wanted to install i got this bug was on IRC one week ago but no answer :(
[09:16] <junky> is integrate, abit nv8, realtek
[09:16] <zorglu_> ibert: ok
[09:16] <ibert> ubuntu__: thanks. I'll check
[09:16] <junky> oks
[09:16] <Xenol> zorglu can u help me?
[09:17] <zorglu_> Xenol: no :))
[09:17] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  sounds tome like the cd is either messed up. you got somthing really funky going on.
[09:17] <Xenol> dr_willis i newly burned this version destroyed one CD when i was lastly traing to install
[09:17] <Dr_willis> junky,  you may want to do some googling to see if that sound card/chipset is supported by ALSA at all.  also the Ubuntu wiki pages may help.
[09:17] <junky> i dont understand
[09:18] <junky> oks i serch if my sound card is supported...
[09:18] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you try using the alternative installer cd yet?
[09:18] <inetpro> how do I disable PrintScreen button from running ksnapshot
[09:19] <inetpro> don't know how many times i've pressed it by mistake
[09:19] <Xenol> dr_willis i have it downloaded but havent tried it yet i think i dont get graphic mode there and i am afraid i wont be able to install it :/
[09:19] <ubuntu__> Anyone an idea, why the installation might hang at 99% when "Downloading package lists"? I see connection attempts to a mirror003.isp.belgacom.be. Why did kubuntu chose that mirror? I never selected it.
[09:20] <Dr_willis> inetpro,  look under the 'keyboard shortcuts' control panel icon
[09:20] <inetpro> i don't find it thre
[09:20] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you dont need graphical mode to install the system.. never have.
[09:20] <Xenol> dr_willis can i burn alternative CD version to dvd-rw?
[09:21] <junky> ?? i don't see if my sound card is compatible with alsa
[09:21] <inetpro> Dr_willis: ?
[09:21] <AMICOHacker> kmail
[09:22] <Dr_willis> inetpro,  im still trying to figure out how you 'accidently' hit that key. :)
[09:22] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  since its a cd.. no.
[09:22] <ironfroggy_LT> the cups web frontend is forcing me to use https at the end of the configuration process, but everytime it seems to lock cups up completely!
[09:22] <Xenol> dr_willis any ideas how could i install kubuntu without downlaoding new instllation burning new cd?
[09:22] <junky> someone know what i have to do,? i need to install drivers for my sound card?
[09:22] <inetpro> Dr_willis: my keyboard layout is really stupid - print screen is where insert should be
[09:22] <junky> is an integrated sound card
[09:23] <inetpro> everytime i press shift insert for copy
[09:23] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  not really.  the wiki docs may have some methods. ive never bothered.
[09:23] <ironfroggy_LT> there has to be a way to disable https for CUPS, any ideas?
[09:23] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy_LT,  the cups homepage/docs and the cups config files whold be the place to look
[09:23] <Fragrag> Why when installing programmes, am I stuck on 'waiting for headers'? Are the repositories down?
[09:23] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy_LT,  of course I like the cups web interface
[09:24] <ironfroggy_LT> Dr_willis: i like it too, but i just want to use http and not https
[09:27] <thomas> does anybody have an idea, why I can see the video in kdetv, but do not get the sound?
[09:27] <junky> plz someone can help me with sound ??? please
[09:27] <weswh-> whatever happened before when the system automounted the firewire drive, it didn't allow me to copy over any files. it said "the directory /whatever does not exist" (when i was browsing it, and actually playing some music off of it). so i want to remount it, and be able to access it as a normal user not root.
[09:27] <Xenol> dr_willis so wat should i do now?
[09:28] <Fragrag> Is the repository down? I did 'ping be.archive.ubuntu.com' in konsole and I don't get any answer
[09:28] <weswh-> so i tried "mount /dev/sda3 /media/firewire", and it says only root can do that. if i sudo that, haven't i accomplished the same thing as before?
[09:28] <ironfroggy_LT> Dr_willis: https is actually crashing cups, so avoiding it at all would very helpful.
[09:29] <Xenol> dr_willis so can u help me somehow?
[09:29] <weswh-> yeah, i just did that - and the files i need still have "lock" icons. the only way i have found around it is kdesu, but like i said, could not copy the files to my home dir
[09:30] <junky> no one....
[09:31] <Xenol> dr_willis :(
[09:31] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  Ive never done a net isntall of ubuntu, ive heard its possible.. check the install docs/wiki pages.. or go buy some cd's :)
[09:32] <Xenol> dr_willis in wat way is alternate method better than desktop and why i can install it from desktop version? :)
[09:33] <julle> does any know an ftp server program that i easily can install through the apt-get install command?
[09:33] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  its faster for me. i awalsy use the alt installcd. it has some other options also
[09:34] <Xenol> dr_willis i am  fucked up cause i cant install it from dekstop and i have googled it whole and also got severals manuals how to install it
[09:35] <junky> k alguen me ayude kon el sonido porfavor...
[09:35] <junky> o algun k me diga algun manual mas para principiantes
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[09:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:37] <weswh-> how can i check what the permissions are (who owns) a directory through konsole?
[09:37] <senjin> anyone go too www.rollforlife.se and vote on the pol pleas
[09:38] <der_steppenwolf> hi, how can i see the change log of program versions in kubuntu?
[09:38] <inetpro> Anybody know where ksnapshot is mapped to the PrintScreen button?
[09:38] <Dr_willis> inetpro,  go ask in #kde perhaps
[09:38] <inetpro> will do thanks
[09:40] <Xenol> how can i install kubuntu 6.10 from dekstop cd?
[09:40] <weswh-> ok, i changed the permissions of the mount point for the drive - but it's still being mounted owner - root, and i still can't access the entire drive as a user. (i can access some of it, which is strange) - what's the protocol for mounting a drive for user access? umask=0 seems only to be an option if i were doing this in fstab
[09:41] <Reilithion> Are the tulip or eepro100 ethernet kernel modules included as part of the Kubuntu Live CD?
[09:43] <Dr_willis> should be
[09:44] <Dr_willis> l/drivers/net/eepro100.ko
[09:44] <Dr_willis>   /drivers/net/tulip
[09:44] <Dr_willis> is where they would be if they are there
[09:44] <sickd> hello
[09:44] <Reilithion> Ok, then something weird must be going on.  I can't for the life of me figure out why the interface gets no reply when pinging out.
[09:45] <Dr_willis> ive seen some eepro cards that some how get the wrong module loaded
[09:45] <sickd> how can install the manual pages to work with threads in kubuntu?
[09:45] <sickd> i mean pthreads?
[09:45] <sickd> how can i work with pthreads in kubuntu?
[09:46] <Zappix> okay for those whom were here earlier: The processor didn't work =/
[09:46] <Xenol> how can i install kubuntu 6.10 desktop?
[09:46] <Xenol> i get one message saying isntallation crashed
[09:46] <Zappix> So I retired it for good, and took the thermal paste off by soaking it in bioling water.
[09:46] <Xenol> i have it in paste
[09:47] <Xenol> but can i copy it here?
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  if its that huge paste you pasted earlier - it wont help any one to paste it.
[09:47] <mc__> !ati
[09:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <sickd> thanks
[09:47] <sickd> :S
[09:47] <Xenol> dr_willis where else should i ask?
[09:47] <Zappix> Most NVidia drivers are plug and play :D
[09:47] <Zappix> well at least mine are
[09:48] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  forums/wiki, or break down go to the store and buy some blank cd;s and download the alt. installer cd... OR read the installer wiki/pages and learn how to do a net install.
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Dont expect magic  'type  a simple command' answer. You got either somthing really weird with that system.. or some badly burnt cd's
[09:49] <Xenol> dr_willis one question can u tell me why my 20 GB partiotion was formated in less  then 5 mins and 100 GB part didnt even start to format?
[09:49] <Xenol> i dont think it is badly burnt i burnt it with slowest speed possible
[09:50] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  who/what told it to format.. when in doubt do it from the shell.
[09:50] <user_> hello
[09:51] <Xenol> dr_willis i am noob with shell didnt learned it yet :P
[09:51] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  i guess ya got somthing to keep you busy for the next few days then
[09:51] <Xenol> dr_willis telll me
[09:51] <Dr_willis> Tell you what?
[09:51] <user_> what would you prefer to use, provided you have an amd64: linux with amd64 or k7 kernel?
[09:52] <Xenol> if i format that partition before install why TF it start formating from beginning when i try to install it?
[09:52] <user_> re
[09:53] <Xenol> dr_willis any ideas?
[09:54] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  all you really need to do is have the sectionof the drive you want to use 'unallocated'  then let the installer partition/format it.
[09:54] <user_> what about my kernel related question?
[09:54] <Dr_willis> user_,  i use the 32bit kernels. edgy has sort reduced the # of kernel options also.
[09:56] <tenco> hi
[09:56] <tenco> i am unable to start kaffeine
[09:56] <user_> tenco: hi
[09:56] <tenco> it just does nothing, even no output if i start it with --verbose in a konsole
[09:57] <user_> but on ething puzzles me: when i ws using debian sarge my nic and sound card were unsupported, but ubuntu seems to absolutely no problem with that
[09:59] <Dr_willis> user_,  proberly  a newer kernel version being used now
[09:59] <tenco> and there's no kaffeine dir in .kde/share/apps and no config in .kde/share/config
[09:59] <user_> dr_willis: debian sarge includes kernel 2.6.10, but after i installed that one, some of kernel modules were to my surprise gone
[10:00] <Perseid> I was here before. grub keeps giving an error 17 unless I use the Kubuntu boot disk and pick Boot From First Hard Disk. The device.map and menu.lst look right to me.
[10:00] <tenco> dunno what's wrong here with kaffeine :-\
[10:01] <mister009> Hola?
[10:02] <mister009> HI?
[10:03] <Dr_willis> hoedy
[10:03] <sredna> Which video encoder is better (if any), ffmpeg or mencoder?
[10:04] <mister009> mencoder
[10:05] <Zappix> .....how do I open this thing up? D:
[10:05] <Zappix> talking 'bout a pentium P5
[10:05] <inetpro> Dr_willis: i fixed my ksnapshot issue... it's under regional & accesibility and input actions
[10:06] <inetpro> Dr_willis: thanks for the help
[10:07] <user_> have you ever tried qemm97?
[10:07] <user_> it's great, it accounts for 617 kb of conventional memory on my old box
[10:09] <user_> how do i request my kernel version unde ubuntu?
[10:10] <Murchadh> user_, uname -ra
[10:11] <user_> thx
[10:11] <Xenol> dr_willis
[10:11] <Dr_willis> Xenol,
[10:11] <Xenol> i made CD check and it sazs  checksums detected
[10:11] <Xenol> so CD must be ok
[10:11] <Xenol> dont uthni<
[10:11] <Xenol> u think?
[10:11] <Xenol> bah
[10:11] <Xenol> 0 checksums failed
[10:12] <Dr_willis> You mean checksum verified?   sounds right to me then.
[10:12] <Xenol> yeah no defects detected
[10:12] <Xenol> dr_willis so wat u think?
[10:14] <Dr_willis> If youve 'proven' that the cd is good.. then either its your messing witht eh drives befor you install thats the issue.. or you got flakey hardware, or some odd bios/bug happening
[10:16] <user_> what prog is used under debian to calibrate the joystick?
[10:16] <smaggard> i think its joyconfig
[10:16] <user_> i mean teh one connected to the gameport of your soundcard
[10:17] <user_> thx
[10:17] <smaggard> no im jk
[10:18] <smaggard> joystick-config
[10:21] <rance> Im running kubuntu 6.10 Edgy and my kde is having trouble with cd automount on audio cds, data cds are working fine.  When I try to play a cd i get an error telling me I dont have permission to access the device, but I have permission just fine when its a data cd
[10:21] <gan|y|med> hi
[10:21] <smaggard> hi
[10:21] <gan|y|med> how is the package for all the windows codecs called?
[10:21] <kblog> hi, i can not play any dvds
[10:21] <der_steppenwolf>  hi, how can i see the change log of program versions in kubuntu?
[10:21] <kblog> who can help?
[10:22] <smaggard> i think its w32codecs in package handler
[10:22] <gan|y|med> thx
[10:22] <gan|y|med> not in the repo
[10:22] <smaggard> like sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[10:22] <gan|y|med> multiverse is activated
[10:22] <rance> ganly|med: win32-codecs  but due to licenseing its not part of your system, you have to add it by hand
[10:22] <smaggard> google it
[10:23] <smaggard> you will find the server with them on it
[10:23] <gan|y|med> so it is not in multiverse?
[10:23] <rance> its a dep package, but you have to download it yourself
[10:23] <rance> no its not in multiverse, probably never will be either
[10:23] <smaggard> no u dont have to manually download it you have to add the right repository to your sources
[10:24] <smaggard> cuz technically the w32 codecs might be illegal
[10:24] <gan|y|med> i could copy the files in the right place if i weren't that lazy
[10:24] <smaggard> depends on where you r
[10:24] <smaggard> lol
[10:24] <smaggard> i can pastebin u my sources
[10:24] <smaggard> if u want
[10:24] <gan|y|med> let's not get into this discussion. but thx for the hint-
[10:24] <smaggard> im running dapper tho
[10:25] <gan|y|med> i still hate how my websites look in opera. what happened???
[10:25] <rance> I think you want to add the "main restricted" repository and then you can apt-get install win32-codecs
[10:26] <gan|y|med> ok, can you paste your sources.list please
[10:26] <gan|y|med> i hate all this drm propriety stuff. ogg rocks :)
[10:26] <rance> yea: hang on
[10:26] <gan|y|med> thx
[10:27] <gan|y|med> i mean have you ever seen a codec with such a nice name as ogg theora?
[10:27] <gan|y|med> i mean: "mp3"...
[10:27] <rance> gannly|med: mine is for edgy and has universe multiverse, and the restricted, and the opera repositories in it already
[10:27] <gan|y|med> address?
[10:27] <gan|y|med> i think i am missing the restricted
[10:28] <lorrego> botero
[10:29] <rance> ganly|med: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36129/
[10:30] <gan|y|med> there is an opera repo? interesting.
[10:30] <gan|y|med> so i guess you are using opera. anything strange with the border distances when you browse. mine are all squeezed in
[10:31] <xst> After an upgrade, the fonts in emacs became very ugly and non-antialiased. How can I fix that?
[10:31] <rance> I don't really use opera much, I just have it so when I design web sites I can see what it looks like in several different browsers
[10:31] <rance> but I havent seen what you are describing
[10:32] <smaggard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36131/
[10:33] <smaggard> who put windows is gay in there?
[10:33] <gan|y|med> rance: ok, i have restricted in there. looks pretty much like yours, but i cannot find w32* (update was fine)
[10:33] <LjL> smaggard: whoever made that paste, i suppose... ?
[10:33] <smaggard> ok u got me, it was me :D
[10:34] <smaggard> u should be a detecterive
[10:35] <Dasnipa`> detecterive lol
[10:35] <Dasnipa`> i like it
[10:35] <smaggard> ty
[10:35] <smaggard> now i must go pick up my gf for some hott wild dirty stuff :D
[10:35] <smaggard> bye
[10:36] <rance> I just bet that your Windows is Gay repository is part of the problem
[10:36] <smaggard> well crap im back, the air compressor is broke
[10:38] <gan|y|med> ok, i have done it by hand
[10:38] <gan|y|med> strange what this repo might be... a mysterious one
[10:39] <gan|y|med> ok, i need your help
[10:39] <rance> they work, ive got a wmv file on the machine right now that plays great
[10:39] <gan|y|med> i believe you. i just don't have time for the hassle now. i'll have to look in this later though
[10:40] <gan|y|med> how do i deactive the behaviour that some dirs are considered hidden now?
[10:40] <gan|y|med> even when i am root
[10:40] <rance> I think I downloaded it by hand when I did it first, I found the repo later and added it in case of an update
[10:40] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[10:40] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[10:41] <gan|y|med> works
[10:42] <gan|y|med> thx
[10:42] <rance> glad to hear it
[10:42] <gan|y|med> but i would NOT call this a "feature"
[10:42] <gan|y|med> simplicity != usability
[10:42] <gan|y|med> simplicity = what m$ considers usability
[10:43] <NamShub> gan|y|med: dont worry you aint alone thinking that...
[10:43] <gan|y|med> yes, it will be dropped. happy day
[10:43] <NamShub> ie. its not in the next version
[10:44] <casev01> hi
[10:44] <casev01> someone knows a repo for beryl 1.2?
[10:45] <CaBlGuY> !win32
[10:45] <Dr_willis> i find the feature rather trivial.. :)
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <CaBlGuY> !w32 codecs
[10:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:47] <gan|y|med> thx a lot guys
[10:49] <BluesKaj> !win32codecs
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <LjL> !w32codecs
[10:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <LjL> but anyway
[10:49] <LjL> !seveas
[10:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:50] <godzila> halo
[10:51] <godzila> im beginer,can anyone please tell me how to shut down firewall?
[10:52] <LjL> godzila: there is no firewall activated by default
[10:53] <LjL> !pm | godzila
[10:53] <ubotu> godzila: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[10:53] <LjL> !firewall | godzila
[10:53] <ubotu> godzila: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:53] <casev01> beryl is out ?
[10:54] <gan|y|med> i wanna use kmldonkey. do i necessarily need to install mldonker-server (as server points to localhost) or can i just connect to any donkey server on the net?
[10:55] <Dr_willis> install kmldonkey and see if it works.. :)
[10:55] <craftycorner> question...what is right java for Dapper Drake?
[10:55] <Dr_willis> !java
[10:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:55] <digitalfreedom> the java for linux
[10:55] <Dr_willis>  sun-java5-jre
[10:56] <digitalfreedom> yeah what the doc said
[10:56] <digitalfreedom> i had fits out of it yesterday
[10:57] <digitalfreedom> and i think i messed my repos's up
[10:57] <craftycorner> ebay's a pill about it, I have sun-java5-jre, installing the fonts.  hope that works
[10:57] <Dr_willis> !swat
[10:57] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:57] <craftycorner> everyt ime I try to get live help from ebay, they send me to a page with download choices
[10:57] <tommy_> hmm
[10:57] <gan|y|med> hi Dr_willis
[10:57] <tommy_> adept keeps at waiting for header downloads 99%
[10:57] <tommy_> what can i do ?
[10:58] <gan|y|med> no it doesn't- says no connection to server
[10:58] <digitalfreedom> you on cli tommy?
[10:58] <CaBlGuY> !xine
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <tommy_> digitalfreedom: what is cli ?
[10:58] <digitalfreedom> command line interface
[10:58] <B-Minus> digitalfreedom: no
[10:58] <digitalfreedom> on a konsole
[10:58] <craftycorner> um, I can give you the list of the choices ebay's inflicting
[10:59] <B-Minus> digitalfreedom: im using adept
[10:59] <mc__> tommy:  common language interface
[10:59] <B-Minus> adept manager
[10:59] <B-Minus> ok
[10:59] <digitalfreedom> try this apt-get update from konsole
[10:59] <B-Minus> ok tnx
[10:59] <digitalfreedom> langiuage line same thing
[10:59] <digitalfreedom> i like it
[11:00] <B-Minus> it does the same
[11:00] <gan|y|med> ok, there is no mlnet. so i guess i have to install mldonker-server
[11:00] <craftycorner> http://java.com
[11:00] <B-Minus> maybe i have bad repositeries
[11:00] <B-Minus> can that be
[11:00] <B-Minus> cause i just installed edgy
[11:00] <craftycorner> edgy's got some problems
[11:00] <B-Minus> i deleted my whole windows, this laptop is gonna be linux only
[11:00] <digitalfreedom> i better check mine
[11:00] <craftycorner> can you tell me what offerings won't give my machine a spazz
[11:00] <B-Minus> hmmz
[11:01] <B-Minus> there was a tool that creates sources.list automaticaly
[11:01] <B-Minus> or not
[11:01] <CaBlGuY> !flash 9
[11:01] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[11:01] <craftycorner> hello?
[11:01] <NamShub> !backports
[11:01] <craftycorner> there we go, still recieving
[11:01] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:01] <CaBlGuY> !backports
[11:01] <digitalfreedom> B-Minus: good for you on the laptop
[11:02] <casev01> !beryl
[11:02] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:02] <B-Minus> digitalfreedom: funny thing is, today i installed vista on it, i couldnt stand it for 1 hour
[11:02] <B-Minus> so deleted the whole thing
[11:02] <digitalfreedom> lol
[11:02] <craftycorner> vista is bull
[11:02] <B-Minus> but now my sources.list wont load :ss
[11:03] <digitalfreedom> pm me B and ill help you from there if i can
[11:03] <B-Minus> strange cause it worked perfectly before i reinstalled the whole thing
[11:03] <craftycorner> save to disc?
[11:04] <craftycorner> gotta go
[11:04] <Schuenemann> I clicked on some "share" or "applet" stuff and now I have icon close to the trash can, with the "new server" only option. How can I get rid of this?
[11:05] <Schuenemann> an icon*
[11:05] <Schuenemann> "public file server" is the name
[11:11] <Dr_willis> right cliock on it look at its menus
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, right clock on it and choose quit
[11:11] <Dr_willis> Logical eh?
[11:12] <Schuenemann> the only option is "new server"
[11:12] <Schuenemann> if I click on the panel arrow says "remove public server file", but won't that just take it from the panel?
[11:13] <Schuenemann> how can I know if that server is running?
[11:13] <digitalfreedom> the panle menu should give you an option to remove and application
[11:13] <digitalfreedom> an*
[11:14] <Schuenemann> move, remove, about, help... but even the trash can has that, so I suppose it's not related to that server itself
[11:15] <Schuenemann> the application name seems to be kpf
[11:17] <SupremeBeing> what's the trick for a successful update to edgy?  Last 2 times I tried it there were errors and it messed up my xorg.conf
[11:18] <jimmy_> hello
[11:19] <digitalfreedom> hi jimmy
[11:19] <jimmy_> where are you from?
[11:19] <digitalfreedom> linux land
[11:19] <Schuenemann> lol
[11:20] <jimmy_> its good
[11:20] <digitalfreedom> very good
[11:20] <jimmy_> oh yes
[11:21] <jimmy_> im from czech republick
[11:21] <weswh-> !samba
[11:21] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:21] <Schuenemann> !kpf
[11:21] <ubotu> kpf: public fileserver for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 193 kB, installed size 628 kB
[11:23] <dejan> hello everyone
[11:23] <weswh-> anyone know some cool 3d things i could use to flex my graphics card a little? preferably a really good music visualization - i've been playing with the libvisual plugins for amarok, and frankly they aren't very cool
[11:23] <weswh-> ideally there'd be some separate app. that looked at the total mix out of the system
[11:23] <weswh-> so it wasn't linked to an app
[11:25] <dejan> does anyone recommend 64bit kubuntu
[11:26] <adz21c> dejan: not been a problem for me really
[11:26] <adz21c> dejan: well except one thing which isn't major, but i could have swarn i red somewhere it happened on 32bit as well but its more of an annoyance than a problem
[11:27] <jimmy_> whats better please ubuntu kubuntu or eduntu?
[11:28] <dejan> adz21c: i want to be able to use flash and I had a few problems with flash other than that everything was good
[11:28] <diego> hola
[11:28] <adz21c> dejan: well yes flash is an issue, but 2 ways of solving that ... install firefox 32bit or i managed to get flash working under konqueror x64
[11:28] <scrocco> usually you just have to copy one file to the right directory, dejan
[11:28] <scrocco> hi all - are DVD-R discs written by K3b supposed to be readable on apple systems? I add Rock Ridge , Joliet extension and UDF structures , but they look empty on 2 ibooks (they work well on my box)
[11:29] <dejan> jimmy_: i think they are all the same, they only thing diffrent is only minor
[11:29] <Schuenemann> why flash is still version 7 for linux? this sucks
[11:29] <adz21c> nope, 9 beta is out
[11:29] <Schuenemann> I can't see videos in youtube
[11:29] <scrocco> there's 9beta, Schuenemann
[11:29] <scrocco> yout ube works with it
[11:30] <jimmy_> thanks
[11:30] <Schuenemann> when I go to the adobe site and click "download flash player", 7 is the one it shows me
[11:30] <adz21c> yea well cos 9 is beta u have to go get it urself
[11:32] <scrocco> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[11:32] <scrocco> pick "Download Installer for Linux "
[11:32] <weswh-> jimmy - i prefer kubuntu. there is also xubuntu. the only difference is the desktop environment
[11:32] <Schuenemann> so version 8 was never released?
[11:33] <spamer> b
[11:33] <spamer> g
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <dejan> so you recommend 64bit linux, is it easy to upgrade or is it going to be a fresh install
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <scrocco> Schuenemann:  right. never
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <weswh-> www.gnome.org, www.kde.org, www.xfce.org - whichever you like best, go with that version of ubuntu
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <Schuenemann>  /ignore spamer
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <jimmy_> go to ass spamer
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <adz21c> dejan: well its not been a problem for me since i used it, and i would imagine its fresh install
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <adz21c> Schuenemann: yea basically
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:33] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <dejan> i have i586 version of kubuntu
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <Schuenemann> scrocco: is this beta version ok?
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <BluesKaj> does anyone have the ability or right to ban or kick this jerk
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <adz21c> dejan: any reason u want x64?
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj: well, you have the ability to ignore :D
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> cc
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <dejan> well i have a 64bit system so why not
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <B-Minus> kick ?
[11:34] <_kuja_> spamer needs to be glined, as far as I'm concerned
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <dejan> how do you stop this spamer
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:34] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <Schuenemann> type /ignore spamer
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <_kuja_> /ignore spamer
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <Schuenemann> since no one can ban hi
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <adz21c> dejan: yea thats my basic philosophy lol but I don't think you will gain much extra ... if anything
[11:35] <Schuenemann> him*
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <_kuja_> Hmm, sh**
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <scrocco> [11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <spamer> cc
[11:35] <spamer> c
[11:35] <jimmy_> leo but spamer i know your ip 190.48.156.226 you get virus or worms ok lamer?
[11:35] <adz21c> dejan: personally i would wait till I was next ready to do a fresh install, but for me, I always used x64 version of distros
[11:35] <spamer> fg
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <scrocco> [11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <scrocco> this is a human
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <scrocco> you are very clever, spamer
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <scrocco> go for it, _kuja_
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <dejan> just add the spamer to you ignore list
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:36] <spamer> dd
[11:36] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> dd
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <Schuenemann> nah... he deserves to die
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <spamer> d
[11:37] <Fragrag> Why are there no mods?
[11:37] <dejan> if he wants to sit in from of his comp with one hand on c and the other getting of then thats his delema
[11:37] <scrocco> which is the correct mask to use? a simple "/ignore spamer" doesn't work
[11:37] <spamer> jajaja
[11:37] <LjL> !ops
[11:37] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[11:38] <jimmy_> he isnt spamer his name is leo
[11:38] <BluesKaj> yup, copy and paste this into the server entry box :  /ignore spamer
[11:38] <Schuenemann> thanks
[11:38] <scrocco> thanks to the mods
[11:38] <BluesKaj> thanks Hawkwind
[11:38] <Schuenemann> scrocco: are you using konversation?
[11:38] <nalioth> woops
[11:38] <scrocco> no, xchat
[11:38] <dejan> no to your ignore list, right click on the left hand side where all the users are and select ignore, he will not shw up in the dialog anymore
[11:38] <LjL> perhaps set mode +t Hawkwind
[11:38] <Schuenemann> ahh... might be diferent in xchat
[11:38] <scrocco> oh right, thx
[11:38] <LjL> he's been changing the topic
[11:38] <scrocco> are DVD-R discs written by K3b supposed to be readable on apple systems? I add Rock Ridge , Joliet extension and UDF structures , but they look empty on 2 ibooks (they work well on my box)
[11:38] <dejan> yep Konversation
[11:39] <BluesKaj> he's gone
[11:39] <Schuenemann> they are supposed to be readable anywhere
[11:39] <jimmy_> hele lidi je tady nkdo z eska?
[11:39] <LjL> !cz | jimmy_
[11:39] <ubotu> jimmy_: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:40] <Schuenemann> !pt
[11:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:40] <Schuenemann> nice
[11:40] <weswh-> so it seems flash 9 will be along soon enough. that's good
[11:40] <weswh-> i figured they wouldn't let linux rot too badly
[11:40] <BluesKaj> hehe  not quite Schuenemann
[11:40] <adz21c> so i read they also might do x64 on v9
[11:40] <dejan> are there any chat sites for programmers
[11:41] <dejan> or are there any here
[11:41] <Schuenemann> what do you need?
[11:41] <bun_tun_dun> hi. somebody here have made an authentication against samba PDC work?
[11:41] <_kuja_> freenode is a programmers haven, as far AFAIK
[11:41] <CaBlGuY> !flash9
[11:41] <dejan> just general advise, on packages for certain librarys
[11:41] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[11:41] <BluesKaj> there's gotta be a command line chat somewhere for them ...most don't GUI's
[11:41] <BluesKaj> irssi !
[11:42] <BluesKaj> flash is tricky tho ...it may not install in your browser
[11:42] <weswh-> dejan - for programmers? freenode has channels for almost any language you can think of
[11:42] <LjL> Schuenemann, scrocco, _kuja_, jimmy_, BluesKaj: when this sort of thing happens, please *do* type !ops to get the operators' attention. use that command only in emergencies, but in emergencies, do use it.
[11:42] <weswh-> !backports
[11:42] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:43] <Schuenemann> flash 7 worked here, I followed their walkthrough
[11:43] <BluesKaj> ok LjL will do , thx
[11:43] <Dheeraj_k>  funny isn't it? http://thakur.dheeraj.googlepages.com/windows.JPG
[11:43] <Schuenemann> ok
[11:44] <phobiac> How can I find out the name of my wireless card? I've switched from using GNOME to KDE and GNOME used to have a Device Database that told me about all my hardware, I can't find anything like that for KDE. :(
[11:44] <BluesKaj> has anyone tried to install flash 9 ?
[11:44] <Schuenemann> I am deciding if I should try
[11:45] <phobiac> I've put flash 9 on my laptop. All I use it for is the firefox plugin though.
[11:45] <_kuja_> blueskaj, I've been using it since they released the first beta .....
[11:45] <Schuenemann> is it ok?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> _kuja_, in ff
[11:45] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:45] <phobiac> It works pretty well, the only issue I've had is that flv movies (Like YouTube) will stop playing for me every once in a while.
[11:45] <_kuja_> For the most part. it has issues with it covering up other things in the window, at least in Opera, and I think FF too.
 yeah
 i downloaded its binary file from adobe's web site
[11:46] <_kuja_> labs.adobe.com
[11:46] <Schuenemann> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[11:46] <Dheeraj_k> !flash
[11:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:46] <Schuenemann> here?
[11:47] <phobiac> !wireless card
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <BluesKaj> well, the flasf vers i have now works well and i had real "time" setting it up right. I think I'll wait :)
[11:47] <Dheeraj_k> !wifi
[11:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:47] <Schuenemann> which is it?
[11:47] <_kuja_> ah, another useful link.... http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[11:47] <phobiac> Ah, thanks
[11:48] <CaBlGuY> someone in here told me about a flash 9 for linux link the other day..   it was without addin anything to your repos or any stuff like that, straight DL and install..
[11:48] <CaBlGuY> anyone know of that?
[11:48] <Schuenemann> _kuja_: do I have to remove the flash 7 I installed previously?
[11:48] <_kuja_> Flash 9 is a single file that you put in the plugins folder. libflashplayer.so
[11:48] <_kuja_> Schuenmann, I'd recommend it.
[11:49] <Schuenemann> how to do  that?
[11:49] <Dheeraj_k> well u can install it using installer http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b2_installer_linuxplugin
[11:49] <obsethryl> ok...
[11:50] <aleksanteri> hey what's your favorite feature in kubuntu?
[11:50] <obsethryl> are there any differences between ubuntu and kubuntu
[11:50] <Schuenemann> kubuntu uses KDE
[11:50] <obsethryl> i want a gnome - free environment
[11:50] <Schuenemann> ubuntu uses gnome
[11:50] <obsethryl> i mean like I do not even WANT gtk apps
[11:50] <obsethryl> isn't the package manager based on gtk
[11:51] <_kuja_> Which package manager?
[11:51] <Schuenemann> I don't know... I'm quite new here
[11:51] <aleksanteri> oh
[11:51] <dejan> ericsson
[11:51] <_kuja_> aleksanteri: katapult :)
[11:52] <aleksanteri> i'd say the look of it
[11:53] <aleksanteri> kubuntu has cwl appearance
[11:53] <ubuntu> hi
[11:53] <ubuntu> I have a problem
[11:53] <_kuja_> 'ello
[11:53] <Schuenemann> !katapult
[11:53] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[11:53] <ubuntu> I need help
[11:54] <_kuja_> That happens a lot in support channels, it seems
[11:54] <obsethryl> _kuja_: the interface for all the nice .deb files
[11:54] <aleksanteri> :O katapult's cwl
[11:54] <_kuja_> Adept?
[11:54] <_kuja_> It's either pyqt, or pykde, I forget which
[11:55] <_kuja_> And that's if I'm remember right at all.
[11:55] <CaBlGuY> wheres the plugins folder for mozilla at?
[11:55] <CaBlGuY> the defualt install place..
[11:55] <Schuenemann> ~/.mozilla/something
[11:55] <ubuntu> how I can repair a damage file in my filesystem? apt or dpkg can reinstall a damaged files in my system
[11:55] <CaBlGuY> and if I can't find ~   ??
[11:55] <_kuja_> wait, nope, c++/qt/kde
[11:56] <aleksanteri> search for "mozilla" and then navigate the plugins folder in it i think
[11:56] <Schuenemann> ~/.mozilla/firefox/(nameOfProfile)/extensions
[11:56] <ubuntu> can apt or dpkg check the integrity of the installed files ??
[11:56] <mathiouzz> erh excuse me but could someone help me to solve my problem : all the dvd i try to burn with K3B or brasero fail
[11:56] <mathiouzz> with that message
[11:56] <mathiouzz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36104/
[11:56] <Schuenemann> CaBlGuY: ~ is the home directory
[11:56] <ubuntu> any can help me ?
[11:56] <Schuenemann>  /home/user_name
[11:56] <aleksanteri> !ultraiso
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ultraiso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <aleksanteri> bah
[11:56] <aleksanteri> try ultraiso
[11:57] <_kuja_> ubuntulog: it checks the md5s of the *.debs after it downloads them
[11:57] <CaBlGuY> Schuenemann: then I need to browse it in root, cuase only thig in /home is my user folder..  nothin else..
[11:57] <aleksanteri> mathiouzz: http://www.ezbsystems.com/ultraiso/index.html <-- shareware, but i guess you need it only this one time :P
[11:58] <mathiouzz> ?
[11:58] <Schuenemann> CaBlGuY: so, it's in that folder
[11:58] <mathiouzz> what i wanted to say
[11:58] <obsethryl> _kuja_: excellent
[11:58] <CaBlGuY> Schuenemann:  ummmmm  what folder???   :-O
[11:58] <mathiouzz> is that even if i change programs
[11:58] <Schuenemann>  /home/user_name/.mozilla/profile_name/extensions
[11:58] <mathiouzz> i always get crashes
[11:58] <aleksanteri> ohh
[11:58] <mathiouzz> so i think it's a problem of infrastructure
[11:59] <aleksanteri> then i guess it's the hardware
[11:59] <Schuenemann> the user folder
[11:59] <mathiouzz> don't u think ?
[11:59] <mathiouzz> yep that's what i'm thinking too
[11:59] <aleksanteri> get a new burner
[11:59] <mathiouzz> but how can you solve that ?
[11:59] <CaBlGuY> Schuenemann:  nope, not in there..
[11:59] <aleksanteri> solve what?
[11:59] <CaBlGuY> :/
[11:59] <mathiouzz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36104/
[11:59] <mathiouzz> that error message
[11:59] <Schuenemann> CaBlGuY: the directory is hidden
[12:00] <CaBlGuY> Schuenemann:  really???  what ever gave ya that idea...   :p
[12:00] <aleksanteri> mathiouzz: i think it relates to the burner as well
[12:00] <aleksanteri> because it really doesn't do anything
[12:00] <aleksanteri> no successes at all
[12:00] <Schuenemann> CaBlGuY: you're kidding me, right?
[12:00] <aleksanteri> so it's the burner
[12:00] <mathiouzz> hmm not sure
[12:00] <mathiouzz> as it burns dvd's on windows
[12:00] <mathiouzz> it's not a problem of hardware
[12:00] <mathiouzz> but i think it's a linux problem
[12:01] <aleksanteri> mathiouzz: what do you mean?
[12:01] <mathiouzz> as i can burn dvd's on windows
[12:01] <CaBlGuY> Schuenemann:  Ummmm  no....   I aint no freakin Linux Gawd...   I'm good enough to install it but that's about it..  I need help installin all the additional stuff..   so, that's why I'm here..
[12:01] <mathiouzz> and all the programs i use to burn dvd's onlinux crash
[12:01] <aleksanteri> well
[12:01] <mathiouzz> i think it's a problem of linux
[12:01] <mathiouzz> no ?
[12:01] <aleksanteri> redownload the iso then
[12:01] <mathiouzz> i tested the md5sum
[12:01] <mathiouzz> they correspound perfectly
[12:01] <Schuenemann> CaBlGuY: .mozilla is hidden, every directory/file that starts with a point is hidden
[12:02] <cuco> any packages for mailody in edgy? i did not find in the default repositories
[12:02] <aleksanteri> i am clueless now...
[12:02] <CaBlGuY> Schuenemann:  ok...  so,  how do I acces it then??
[12:02] <_kuja_> cuco, I really doubt it, not with something as new as it
[12:02] <mathiouzz> so to resume : it's not a problem of iso , it's not a problem of program and it's not a problem of hardware
[12:02] <Schuenemann> you're using konqueror or the shell?
[12:02] <mathiouzz> so it's probably a problem of kernel or sumthin like that no ?
[12:03] <aleksanteri> no it can't be the kernel
[12:03] <notech> aleksanteri: try different media, it may be bad
[12:03] <Schuenemann> click view > show hidden files
[12:03] <aleksanteri> notech: ???
[12:03] <mathiouzz> well i tried different medias
[12:03] <mathiouzz> verbatim dvd's and other dvd-rw
[12:03] <mathiouzz> both crash
[12:03] <mathiouzz> and succesfully burn on windows !
[12:03] <Schuenemann> maybe the dvd is protected?
[12:03] <mathiouzz> what's the problem :S
[12:04] <aleksanteri> the dvd
[12:04] <mathiouzz> protection is patched :P
[12:04] <notech> crash as in what?
[12:04] <mathiouzz> k3b , brasero all crash
[12:04] <aleksanteri> the dvd might be malfunctioned or somtething like that
[12:04] <notech> i missed the beginning of this
[12:04] <mathiouzz> i destroyed 7 dvd
[12:04] <mathiouzz> take a look at my paste
[12:04] <mathiouzz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36104/
[12:05] <mathiouzz> when k3b fails in the middle of the burning
[12:05] <mathiouzz> ok a dvd with bad media ok
[12:05] <notech> try cleaning the drive
[12:05] <mathiouzz> 2 dvd's bad ok
[12:05] <aleksanteri> yeah
[12:05] <mathiouzz> but 7
[12:05] <aleksanteri> :|
[12:05] <aleksanteri> so it's not the dvd
[12:05] <mathiouzz> but i told you that the drive was clean and it doesn't crash on windows
[12:05] <notech> mathiouzz: i had some sitting here for like 6 months and they all went bad
[12:06] <mathiouzz> erf :S
[12:06] <_kuja_> mathiouzz: Try burning with a different version of growisofs
[12:06] <mathiouzz> yep but it crashed on a dvd-rw
[12:06] <notech> if you have another linux system then md5summ the dvd
[12:06] <night|away> mathiouzz did you check the md5sum of the image
[12:06] <mathiouzz> yep night
[12:07] <CaBlGuY> ok. got it..  now..
[12:07] <aleksanteri> mathiouzz: perhaps you could order a ready-burned dvd?
[12:07] <mathiouzz> is there an automatized way to install another version of growisofs ?
[12:07] <_kuja_> not really, but it should be painless.
[12:07] <mathiouzz> it's not only a problem of 1 dvd
[12:07] <Murrlin> I can't seem to add the 15-26.686 restricted modules in adept. nothing happens when I 'request install'
[12:07] <mathiouzz> it's a problem that my burner is quite new and it crashes on linux
[12:08] <aleksanteri> so what are you burning now?
[12:08] <mathiouzz> i'm gonna try another version of growisofs
[12:08] <notech> check for a firmware update?
[12:08] <_kuja_> mathiouzz, are you using dapper or edgy?
[12:08] <Murrlin> do I need to be running the 26 image to do this?
[12:08] <mathiouzz> edgy
[12:08] <mathiouzz> erh not a bad idea checking for a firmware update
[12:08] <_kuja_> Hm, should be up to date, try to find an older version.
[12:08] <mathiouzz> i've got an amd64 but as i had a lot of problems with some programs i use now edgy i386
[12:09] <mathiouzz> everything works unless burning
[12:09] <mathiouzz> now i've got a few clues
[12:09] <mathiouzz> firmware upgrade
[12:09] <mathiouzz> growisofs
[12:09] <mathiouzz> thanks for your help guys
[12:09] <mathiouzz> ;)
[12:09] <mathiouzz> gotta go to sleep now :S
[12:10] <mathiouzz> good night all
[12:10] <aleksanteri> bye
[12:10] <mathiouzz> ++
[12:10] <_kuja_> Did burning work with amd64? Sometimes, though rarely, obscure hardware problems pop up when using i386 on an amd64/emt64 system
[12:10] <CaBlGuY> !java
[12:10] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:12] <Schuenemann> !jdk
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <Perseid> OK. I am desperate now. I reinstalled Kubuntu to see if it would correct my grub config and now when I boot all I get is the command line
[12:13] <aleksanteri> type login