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CaBlGuYOh, can someone help with accessing my slave drive?12:18
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CaBlGuYit's a winblowz NTFS system drive12:19
digitalfreedomis it mounted?12:19
Murrlinok I'm a dumba**. its 15-26.386 not 68612:19
CaBlGuYno, not mounted yet..12:19
SchuenemannCaBlGuY: look in /media12:19
CaBlGuYhang on..12:19
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CaBlGuYK, nope, not there..12:20
SchuenemannCaBlGuY: no folders there?12:21
Schuenemannlike hda, hdb12:21
CaBlGuYyes..  I got into it..12:21
CaBlGuYand there are my CD-Rom floders, but no windowz folder..12:22
CaBlGuYcdrom0 cdrom1 floppy etc..12:22
Schuenemannno hda, hdb?12:22
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CaBlGuYno sir..12:23
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SchuenemannI think you mount using mount /dev/hd* folder12:23
Schuenemannwhere folder is the destination folder12:23
PerseidI can't edit any grub configuration if I boot from the install cd?12:23
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CaBlGuYand I would need to know what the name of the dev is yes?12:24
Schuenemannyeah... first hd is hda, second is hdb...12:24
CaBlGuYok..  so lemme try and see what happenes..   if I remeber right, last time we did it, we had to use FS Tab..12:25
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bones78Howdy everyone.12:26
tim_lynchI'm thinking of installing kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop, but I was wondering what partitioning program the installer uses- should I partition before I start installing?12:26
PerseidI'm really at a loss. I can't boot my computer at all.12:27
CaBlGuY!mount12:27
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks12:27
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BluesKajwondering about the existing libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/firefox/plugin, whether or not it should be deleted and replaced with the flash9 version ?12:27
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bones78Installation gives you the option the alter your partition if needed.12:27
bones78I believe it's under the advanced heading.12:28
BluesKajGParted rocks ..QTParted is iffy12:28
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_kuja_Bah, both of them suck. GNUparted rules the seas!12:29
PerseidAnyone? Help with grub? When I boot all I get is the grub command line.12:29
BluesKajGParted is GNUparted :)12:29
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_kuja_A frontend for lawn GNOMES :O12:30
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tim_lynchok. just to be safe I'll partition before I start installation- I don't want to get stuck halfway and end up erasing my hd12:30
pacmananyone know what the latest version of Java is for LInux?12:30
BluesKajyes partitioniong first is usually the best practice, tim_lynch12:30
CaBlGuYSchuenemann:  I aint seein anything and the mount isn't working..12:31
tim_lynchwell I'm going to get started on that- I'll be back if my computer is destroyed12:31
tim_lynchthanks for the help12:31
bones78You can draw the partition up as you see fit.........you don't need to write your partition straight away.12:31
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BluesKajtim_lynch, use Gparted live cd ...DL it first and burn it to a cd and use that to boot up , then do the partitioning with tools12:32
BluesKajphooey12:32
BluesKajsome ppl have no patience12:32
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CaBlGuY!fs tab12:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fs tab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:33
CaBlGuY!fstab12:33
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions12:33
SupremeBeing!xgl12:33
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:33
CaBlGuY!Partitions12:33
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks12:33
bones78Why use gparted when the ubuntu cd can partition ok?12:33
_kuja_not a bad question.12:34
BluesKajit's easier with the GParted12:34
_kuja_define easy12:34
bones78I've never used gparted (or qparted) but I'm guessing they can resize partitions?12:35
BluesKajhehe , why ask for a deininition when just effective without having to fool with the QTParted disk12:35
SupremeBeingabattoir: ever used beryl?12:36
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SupremeBeingSupremeBeing:  hi12:36
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_kuja_Qtparted actually let me try to resize my XFS partition. That's how I spell disaster.12:36
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CaBlGuYO_012:36
Zamber!beryl12:37
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl12:37
SupremeBeingCaBlGuY: lol?12:37
CaBlGuY:)12:37
SupremeBeingI know what it is, i've installed it twice, then it screws me and freezes...12:37
bones78For a novice/windows convert........wouldn't using the partitioner on the insatll cd suffice?12:37
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slophow do i find out what driver my sound card is using?12:38
crimsunslop: cat /proc/asound/modules12:38
dejananyone know how to fix media player so it plays wmv and dvd properly. i had it fixed but all of a sudden its not working correctly12:39
slopcrimsun, thanks12:39
bones78I don't know about wmv but just installing libdvdcss should cure dvd's12:39
CaBlGuYdejan:  what player u usin?12:40
CaBlGuYHowdy crimsun  o/12:40
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ubuntucan someone help me plz? i want to install kubuntu 6,06,1 but it doesnt say anything about INSTALLING GRUB12:41
ubuntuwill it install it or no12:41
ubuntu?12:41
BluesKajit will12:41
Zamberyep12:41
CaBlGuYyes it will12:41
crimsununless you use lvm in which case it won't (it'll use lilo)12:42
ubuntubut in "ready to install" it says nothing about gruB12:42
ubuntui plan use dualboot12:42
ubuntubut am afraid it wont install12:42
ubuntuso it will ty guys12:42
BluesKajwell , grub will be the way to go12:42
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CaBlGuYyes, grub is the defualt install12:43
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BluesKajif you preserve your hda1 NTFS then grub is the choice12:43
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bones78ubuntu install will resize, and install grub for you.  You could even alter what OS you want it to time into.12:43
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ubuntuppl do u advise me to upgrade to 6.10?12:44
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slopis there a way to check that i have the newest driver for my sound card installed?12:45
CaBlGuYubuntu I just did and it's very nice..12:45
bones78Some say it's as stable as 6.06 for everyday desktop use.12:45
BluesKajwell,  I like edgy ...works better on my pc12:45
CaBlGuYonly thing you would have to install is basic stuff..12:45
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digitalfreedomi love looking at /proc12:46
BluesKajyes slop, system settings/monitor&display/hardware12:46
ubuntuand how long does the upgrade take?12:46
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CaBlGuYubuntu I just DL the iso and did a fresh install..12:47
ubuntuah i got some problem swith installing 6.1012:47
bones78As long as a install12:47
CaBlGuYif you do the upgrade thorugh at-get upgrade, would probably be faster..12:47
digitalfreedomcan pipe cat?12:47
digitalfreedomyou*12:47
digitalfreedomroot@beau-desktop:/proc# cat |uptime version12:49
digitalfreedomusage: uptime [-V] 12:49
digitalfreedom    -V    display version12:49
digitalfreedomguess not12:49
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digitalfreedomim sure i did it wrong12:49
digitalfreedombu bye12:49
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ubuntuWTF scanning the mirror12:50
ubuntuwat is that plz?12:50
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I_Eat_PlasticWhat's a good audio editor for KDE? :o12:51
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MongooseOFdoomaudacity12:53
BluesKajeditor how?12:53
MongooseOFdoomI_Eat_Plastic,  audacity?12:54
BluesKajgnormalize seems ok12:54
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slophow do i download a package from backports?12:55
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BluesKajslop, did you find your soundcard in the list in systems settings12:58
BluesKaj?12:58
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slopBluesKaj, yeah, but that wasn't the problem...now i'm trying to figure out how to download a packge from backports...dow you know how?12:58
snowicehello, is it possible to use arts with amarok, since the xine engine is broken?12:58
SupremeBeingimages?12:59
BluesKajslop, you have to make sure you have the backport repository in your sources list12:59
slopBluesKaj, i did that part....now how do i make sure i'm downloading a package from that repo?01:00
Admiral_Chicagosnowice, i think so01:00
Admiral_Chicagomaybe #amarok would know as well01:00
BluesKajadept or apt will search the repos for the pakg and DL and install it for you01:01
_kuja_slop: it'll always be a newer version in the backports, and apt will always install the newest version by default01:01
slopah ok01:01
slopthx :)01:01
BluesKajwell, you can upgrade adept too01:02
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snowiceAdmiral_Chicago, thanks, but I can't find the arts-engine, which was available in previous versions of amarok. You know how to set it up?01:03
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Admiral_Chicagono i'm using the newest version of Amarok01:03
snowiceso you're probably using the xine-engine01:04
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jullehow i change the soundcard in alsamixer ?01:05
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snowicejulle, man alsamixer, the -c option01:07
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dmhow do i change the theme in KDE?01:11
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dmanyone???01:12
I_Eat_PlasticHey, has anyone ever installed iTunes via cedega?01:15
I_Eat_Plasticor wine01:15
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nerdzyboyHow can I install libc6 (>= 2.4-1) under kubuntu 6.06?01:19
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nerdzyboycan anyone help me?01:22
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bLaZeDI_Eat_Plastic, why would u do that?01:23
I_Eat_PlasticbLaZeD, for my cell phone01:23
bLaZeDI_Eat_Plastic, hmm have u tried gtkpod?01:23
I_Eat_PlasticNo, :D01:23
bLaZeD!gtkpod > I_Eat_Plastic01:23
bLaZeD!gtkpod01:23
ubotugtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1992 kB01:23
bLaZeDnot sure if it will work for a cell phone01:24
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I_Eat_PlasticWell see.01:24
bLaZeDbut works great for my ipod01:24
I_Eat_Plastic:] 01:24
bLaZeD=)01:24
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rancehow do you check for packages that were installed as a dependency that are now orphaned after the parent packages was uninstalled?01:27
nerdzyboyplease help me... I need to install this package in order to install beryl...01:28
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bones78Anyone run kubuntu?01:33
I_Eat_Plasticno01:33
bones78xenol needs help01:33
I_Eat_Plastic.. that was a joke :P01:33
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rancein the #kubuntu channel you ask that?01:33
bones78lol01:34
notechnerdzyboy: installing beryl should bring in anything it needs if using apt-get or the gui01:34
bones78yup01:34
Xenoli need help cause when i click on admin mode in login manager it doesnt ask for root password01:34
bones78I have kde installed, but am used to gnome01:34
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ranceXenol, its not supposed to, that the main difference between k/ubuntu and the rest of linux01:34
ranceno root password01:34
ranceit wants YOUR password01:35
Xenoli know01:35
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bones78He doesn't get asked for his password either01:35
bones78just a red box01:35
ranceoh you mean it doesnt ask for a password at all01:35
Xenolbut when i click for admin mode it onlz show red rectangle and no options in it01:35
notechwhy would you want to login to the gui as root anyway?01:35
Xenolzup01:35
Xenolyup01:35
rancesorry misunderstood you01:35
Xenolnp :)01:35
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ranceonly think I ever did from the login manager was login to a console to fix X01:36
rancegotta go01:36
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nerdzyboyit tells me that it cant be installed01:36
notechXenol:  why would you want to login to the gui as root anyway?01:37
notechnerdzyboy: no reason why?01:37
bones78All he is after is automtic login and altering grub for auto OS01:37
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nerdzyboynot really01:37
Xenolnotech no root login i only need to change settings for auto login01:37
nerdzyboyit sees the dependencies but tells me that they wont be installed01:37
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notechlogin and user and use sudo to access whatever config utility it uses for that01:38
freddantrying to play a regular .mp3 file with Amarok but keep getting this "no suitable input plugin".. does that mean i dont have any codec to play mp3 or what ?01:38
notechlogin as01:38
nerdzyboythe only package that cant be installed is xserver-xgl because it needs a newer version of libc601:38
trikiwhat do you do when libc6 is broken ?01:39
notechnerdzyboy: checked for that libc6 in repo's? i'm guessing maybe you don't have a full list o sources01:39
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nerdzyboyjust noticed universe was commented...01:40
nerdzyboyI'll try again01:40
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freddanatleast thats what im guessing the problem is, however i noticed i do have libxine1 installed and as far as i can tell that should be able to handle mp301:42
nerdzyboyxserver-xgl depends on libc6 2.4-1 but the newest version in the repositories is 2.3.601:43
trikiyou trying to get amarok to play mp3's ?01:43
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nerdzyboy*in my repositories anyway...01:43
nerdzyboywat should I add?01:43
freddantriki: yes01:43
freddanno input plugin problem01:44
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trikiya i had the same problem, skipped all mp3's right ?01:45
freddanyeah01:45
trikisudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs01:46
nerdzyboywhat should I do?01:46
trikirun that01:47
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trikihow did it go ?01:51
Xenolwat package whould i DL so i can see avi on kubuntu?01:53
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trikiwhat players do you have installed ?01:53
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freddantriki: well those 2 + some more that was required is installed now01:55
Xenolkaffenie01:55
freddanbut i seem to get the same error in amarok01:55
Xenolbut want something better01:55
freddanmaybe i need to change some setting01:55
trikidid you close amarok and reopen it ?01:55
Xenolcan u advise me smth?01:55
trikixmms plays mp3's01:56
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freddanyeah i did restart it but still get the same error01:58
trikihmmm01:58
trikione sec01:58
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VR^hey guys... how can i make firefox look a bit more like a KDE app? all the themes are sort of... lame.01:58
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_kuja_I concur VR^ ... I couldn't find a theme that matched when I looked either.02:00
junkybuenas a todos alguien me puede ayudar?? plz02:00
trikifreddan: try putting that into /etc/apt/source file ---- deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse02:00
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junkysoy novato en linux  i e instalado kubuntu por primera vez... todo mas o menos bien menos el sonido02:00
junkyk no me va02:00
junkyllevo muchas horas metido en eso i no lo logro02:01
junkyalguien me podria echar unamano?02:01
intelikeyVR^ mmmm use konqueror ?02:01
intelikey:)02:01
VR^i dont enjoy konqueror :(02:02
trikimake it look more like a kde app ?02:02
VR^triki: yes02:02
trikiyou can download firefox themes02:02
trikifrom mozilla02:02
_kuja_Opera can be made to look very kde-ish02:02
VR^i know, but none of them seem to cut it.02:02
trikiyou can try to make one :P02:03
trikiwith gimp02:03
VR^oh what fun that would be02:03
_kuja_All the icons are already made, you just need to plug them into the theme I'm guessing.02:03
trikichange colors and icons sizes if you want02:03
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notechkonqueror and other kde apps kinda look lame, hard to answer your question :)02:04
intelikeymmmm or just use konqueror ?02:04
freddantriki: its 2am already, think ill try again tomorrow instead :) thanks for the help tho02:04
VR^konqueror doesnt display pages as well as firefox does02:04
_kuja_VR^ it does if they're written properly02:04
trikiok np02:04
VR^_kuja_: yeah, but most of them seem to not be.02:05
intelikeymost aren't02:05
VR^even kubuntu.org and the ubuntu wiki look different in konq.02:05
VR^the font is smaller02:05
intelikeylol02:05
intelikey^+02:05
_kuja_Some of them are downright evil, such that they rely on rendering bugs to render "properly"02:06
intelikeyVR^ font size is a real problem these days   :)02:07
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intelikeyit's not like there are four or five ways to change that......      oh wait, yse it is....02:08
VR^it looks ok if i hit ctrl+02:08
VR^i didnt know how to make that setting stick, though02:08
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intelikeyin the menu   configure02:08
VR^im not in kde now02:09
VR^=D02:09
intelikeyok.02:09
VR^i dont know... something draws me to kde, but i always go back to gnome02:09
VR^then i get bored of it02:09
VR^and the cycle starts anew02:10
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intelikeyso you're wishy-washy, who isn't02:10
Xenolplz can i delete kubuntu memtest and failsafe delete or hide somehow from GRUB list?02:10
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digitalfreedomyou sure can02:11
digitalfreedomin system settings go to boot02:11
digitalfreedomthen edit the boot list02:11
intelikeyXenol or just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst dirrectly.02:11
intelikeyboth work.02:11
Xenolso i need to delete those parts i dont want to have there?02:11
intelikeyyep02:12
digitalfreedomdont delete thhem02:12
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digitalfreedomjust remove from the list02:12
intelikeyor comment them out02:12
Xenoland set time?02:12
Xenolneed to edit timeout?02:12
intelikeydigitalfreedom and why not delete ?02:12
digitalfreedomi dont delete anything02:13
intelikeyXenol it's all in  /boot/grub/menu.lst02:13
digitalfreedomyou may need to boot onto failsafe or something in the future02:13
digitalfreedomid rather keep and not need it then need it and not have it02:13
intelikeydigitalfreedom you can boot to failsafe with the entry....02:13
Xenolso any way i can do it doesnt show in boot list and can hide it?02:13
digitalfreedomyes X02:14
digitalfreedomi dont delete anything02:14
Xenolso how to hide it?02:15
intelikey# <-- lines beginning with the hash mark or poind sign  which ever you call it.  are ignored.   same as deleting it.02:15
intelikey# this is how things are commonly commented out in linux configuration files.02:16
digitalfreedomno kidding02:16
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intelikeydigitalfreedom be nice.02:16
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digitalfreedomwho said i was being mean?02:16
digitalfreedomjusy aknowledging your leetness is all02:17
intelikeythe() { the $ the you say } ; the02:18
intelikeyso 1337 your self02:18
digitalfreedombe nice now02:18
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digitalfreedomjust helping n00bs not make mistakes02:19
Xenolyeah help in darkness :D02:19
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digitalfreedomdarkness? eh w00t02:20
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intelikeythe blind tour guide said "don't worry, if the lights fail i can still get you out of the cave"02:22
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intelikey!seen zizer02:26
ubotuI haven't seen zizer recently02:26
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ThePubhmm, what's kde do different from gnome that doesn't allow alt-tab to see applications on the other screen?02:27
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_kuja_ThePub, there's a setting for that somewhere02:29
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intelikeykcontrol02:31
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ThePubintelikey: where?  which desktop option, because I've turned them all on and nothing.02:31
manchickenAre there any packages that need a maintainer?02:32
manchickenI'm interested in helping, but I don't know where it's needed.02:32
intelikey!contribute02:33
ubotuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate02:33
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ThePubKDE apparently treats a Xinerama desktop like it's a multi-head desktop and it's rather annoying.02:34
intelikeyThePub i don't recall which/where  sorry.02:34
intelikeyit might have be accessable for right click the desktop and choose configure/preferances/whatever it's called.02:36
intelikeybut iirc that's just one section of kcontrol anyway....02:36
manchickenI think I may try to package Kumula...02:37
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ThePubKDE has too many options for it's own good.02:38
manchickenSuch as?02:38
intelikeysometimes02:38
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intelikeyit does get convoluted at times02:38
ThePubIt's like trying to configure a Microsoft server product.  You have tons of options buried in the graphical interface and poor documentation to back it up.02:38
NewNoviceHow do I make monitor power-off time I set permanent?  Presently works only for the current Xsession02:39
manchickenYeah, there are some areas that need better documentation.02:39
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Xenoloki ppl dont wanna be total naab but plz tell me where can i download flash and java? from adept?02:40
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intelikeyNewNovice check in  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/   ?02:41
ThePubXenol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats02:41
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intelikey!flash902:41
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports02:41
intelikey!java02:41
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:41
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manchickenIs the GPL'ed JRE packaged yet?02:42
manchickenThat'd be nice.02:42
ThePubwhich gpl'd jre?02:42
intelikeyi don't know.  i don't do java or flash or windows02:42
ThePubYou must not browse the web much if you don't do flash ;)02:43
manchickenintelikey: The GPL'ed JRE is a beautiful thing for OpenOffice.org users.02:43
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intelikeyThePub no by most standards i don't surf much02:43
manchickenBut my wife uses flash9 on Kubuntu Edgy.02:43
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ThePubFlash is a pretty good environment.  Adobe has done a good job of making something that has alot of potential.02:44
manchickenthe "beta" version.  If there's actually a packaged version, that'd be cool.02:44
NewNoviceintelikey, thanks.  I will search the 7 files there to see what may help.02:44
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manchickenI suppose I should check out this program before trying to package it.02:44
intelikeyNewNovice anything with screen or power or apm  in the names...02:45
Xenolok i want clear explation when i must use apt -get and wget ?02:45
intelikeyXenol never.02:46
manchickenEww... this thing is MySQL only.02:46
intelikeymanchicken yuch02:46
Xenolintellikey any procs/cons?02:46
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NewNoviceintelikey, files are 20xorg-common_process-args, 30xorg-common_xresources, and so forth. Nothing mention dpms.02:47
manchickenTell me about it.02:47
intelikeyXenol yeah cli commands can be used from a gui or a console    gui apps wont generally work if for what ever reason x is down.02:47
Xenoldamn istart to love kubuntu :D WIN XP sux hard02:48
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Dr_willis0_o02:49
XenolOMG i DLed codecs02:49
Xenoland still cant play avi files :/02:50
Dr_willisdepends on the avi file02:50
Dr_willisa 'avi' file could be using any of several hundred codecs.02:50
Xenolaha so where can i get those several hundred codecs?02:50
Dr_willis!avi02:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:50
NewNoviceintelikey, what does This file is sourced by Xsession(5), not executed. in those files mean?02:50
Dr_willisinstall the w32codec pack normally02:50
intelikeyNewNovice means that you don't run or rerun them that xorg reads them when it starts02:51
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Xenoldr_willis if i isntalled it with wget and apt get?02:51
intelikeywith apt-get   or with  wget and dpkg02:52
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Dr_willisXenol,  you normally set up the right reposiutories.. then use apt-get install whatever02:52
Xenolso it is correctly installed?02:52
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intelikeyyou dont generally use wget and apt togather02:52
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intelikeyand for one of those M$ packages wasn't there also a script in it's install dir you had to run ???02:53
intelikeyi don't remember but something like /usr/share/lib/w32dll/setup.sh     ???02:54
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ThePub_nifty, changed something in kde that now makes my big desktop into a clone mode after logging in.02:55
intelikeyi don't know what i'm talking about.   just saw it once.02:55
NewNoviceIntelikey, I do not see anything which deals with power.  If I set the power-off time to 1 minute, the executed command is xset dpms 60 60 60.  xset man page says that xset changes are reset with a new xsession.  The question is, where are the default values stored?02:55
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intelikeyNewNovice you can add that line to something in /etc/X11/xinit/    or maybe even xsessionrc02:57
NewNoviceintelikey, the problem is worse.  The monitor goes off in 1 minute, but turns back on in another minute.02:58
Xenol>D02:58
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Xenolwhich other avi codecs should i isntall?02:59
Dr_willisI normally install the w32codec pack and thats about it.03:00
intelikeyNewNovice so try   xset dpms 60 0 003:01
intelikeyor read the man page for xset  like i did   :)03:02
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NewNoviceintelikey, thanks. I will do that.  I read the man page, but I guess I had better read it again.03:02
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NewNoviceintelikey, I guess whoever wrote systemsettings did not understand it either.03:03
intelikeyNewNovice 0 will disable the setting  so 60 0 0 will standby in one minute and should not change thereafter unless you awaken it.     i think what is happening is the off timer is waking the thing   but i could be wrong,    that's why i said try it.03:04
Xenolppl wat is better?03:05
Xenolkaffeine or mplayer?03:05
intelikeyvlc03:05
Dr_willisdepends on what you like03:05
NewNoviceI understand.03:05
Dr_willistry them all.. use what you perfer.03:05
trikitotem is good also03:05
Xenolhmm i like powerdvd7 but it doesnt exist for lin03:05
Xenol:/03:05
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trikitry it with wine03:06
CaBlGuY!openGL03:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:06
CaBlGuY!glr03:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:06
CaBlGuY!Nvidia03:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:06
Linux_GaloreXenol: kaffeine is a front end to xine/mplayer03:07
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Linux_Galorein*03:08
Dr_willisi rarely play real 'dvds' :) i rip them to  the hard drive then encode/play them03:08
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=== intelikey uses vlc for vidios and sox for audios
Linux_GaloreI use vlc for transcoding but as a player its pretty lame03:08
Xenollinux_galore, i installed w32codecs and cant play avi do u know y?03:09
Linux_GaloreXenol: because win32 codecs have nothing to do with avi03:09
alexiconXenol: get libxine-extracodecs03:09
alexiconand libmpeg303:09
intelikeyLinux_Galore lame....  what else you use for vidios in a console ?03:09
Xenolah03:09
Linux_GaloreXenol: search for avi03:09
Linux_GaloreXenol: in adept03:09
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Xenolalexicon i dont have that codec pack in adept where from i can get it plz?03:10
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Dr_willis!avi03:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:10
Xenolty03:11
BonBonTheJonhi all03:11
Linux_Galoreyeah, just follow the Ubuntu howto on restricted formats, I followed all the sections so I have everything working03:11
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intelikeyor one could follow the other link     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:12
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BonBonTheJonany one know why konqueror at times takes a very long time to load folders or list the history for the address bar03:12
Linux_GaloreIve played a heap of avi files now in Kubuntu, no issues once I followed the howto03:13
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Linux_GaloreBonBonTheJon: turn some of the preview stuff off03:13
intelikeyi have an issue with them....   they are not free.03:13
Admiral_ChicagoBonBonTheJon, maybe your cache03:13
Admiral_Chicagointelikey, i know what that's like03:13
BonBonTheJonAdmiral_Chicago: what do you suggest03:14
Linux_GaloreBonBonTheJon: its trying to preview everything03:14
Admiral_Chicagodelete it03:14
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm more of a Firefox guy myself03:14
Admiral_Chicagointelikey, my problem is that I can't find a good script / program to convert mp3s to .ogg03:14
Dr_willishttp://andre.ihost.za.net/2006/terrible-ubuntu-traits03:14
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Dr_willisOk..everyone go post a few comments. :)03:14
Dr_willishes blaming Linux (and Ubuntu) for the Hardware makers lack of caring.03:15
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Linux_GaloreBonBonTheJon: also go into the Setting->Configure Konqueror  then look for the Performance Icon  make sure Preload is marked and 1 should do it03:15
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, probably because he is ignorant03:15
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Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  yep.. i agree with you there.03:15
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago check what audacity uses   i think mpg123 or something like that   anyway it just plugs them through a cli app iirc.03:16
Linux_GaloreDr_willis: Ive given up chasing fools03:16
Admiral_Chicagointelikey, there was a package soundconvertor but it didn't work for me03:16
Dr_willisranting about the numlock on/off.....    sorry.. i cant recall the last time i EVER even needed the numlock. :)03:16
Dr_willisLinux_Galore,  but its amusing.03:16
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, i use it all the time, makes me feel like a banker03:16
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago have you looked at sox ?03:16
Xenolppl should i use konqueror or FF?03:17
Admiral_Chicagoscroll lock is only useful for a Unix/Linux OS, (aka only useful with a useful OS)03:17
Dr_willisXenol,  this is Linux - Lesson #1 - "USE what you like" try them out...03:17
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, it's your preference really, I love Firefox, but other people swear on Konqueror03:17
Admiral_Chicagointelikey, no but i'll do a search for it03:17
betelgeuzeHow would I install Kubuntu manually? Should I cp teh whoel cd or is there a nice script that I could run. The graphical installation freezes while starting the partition manager.03:18
Dr_willisI tend to use Firefox - because i have all these extensions for it i Like.03:18
intelikeyand there is an app "numlock"   that will turn the numlock on for you.....03:18
XenolAdmiral_Chicago so better to have both installed :P03:18
Dr_willisOpera  is nice also.03:18
XenolAdmiral_Chicago, i also like FF konqueror and opera, sometimes flock but i canno which one to use primary03:18
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, ya03:18
Linux_GaloreOpera always has display stutter for me03:18
trikiseamonkey03:18
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, Flock is based on Gecko -- the FX engine03:18
Xenolit is for MAC03:18
XenolAdmiral_Chicago, i know but it is made for blogging i think03:19
Dr_willisGeico? the insurance agengy?03:19
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, really social networking, like delicoious, whatever that website is, i think Flickr as well03:19
Admiral_ChicagoJucato, ping03:20
intelikeygecko the advertizor for the insurance agency ?03:20
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: pong03:20
Xenolk ppl now tell me it si better i upgrade from 6.06.1 to 6.10?03:20
Admiral_ChicagoJucato, have we ever argued before?03:20
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: not yet, iirc03:20
Jucatowhy?03:20
intelikeyXenol depends on what you want.03:20
Xenol6.06.1 is more stable right?03:20
intelikey!lts | Xenol03:20
ubotuXenol: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.03:20
Admiral_Chicagoi didn't think so either, i had a dream that I got into a fight with someone I knew on IRC, i thought it was you03:20
Admiral_Chicagoso i woke up angry at IRC :|03:21
Jucatolol!03:21
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  dreaming about irc? thats........... well... scary03:21
Jucatowhy in the world would you think that it was me? :P03:21
JucatoDr_willis: don't even ask what I dream about :D03:21
intelikeyXenol 6.6 is LTS   6.10 is not.03:21
Admiral_Chicagoi don't know, are you a balding white man with a gut?03:21
Xenol!libxine-extracodecs03:21
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB03:21
Dr_willisJucato,  we know all about you and your BlueCheese Salad Dressing Fetish.03:21
Jucatolol03:22
Dr_willis:)03:22
Xenol!where to get libxine-extracodecs03:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about where to get libxine-extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:22
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, I know, i have issues, i stayed on IRC until I was dead tired last night03:22
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: balding, no. white, no. man, yes. gut, sort of. lol03:22
Xenol!:/03:22
intelikey multiverse03:22
Admiral_Chicagohey, there was a honey in my dream as well (not Jucato)03:22
intelikeyXenol read the answer ubotu posted when you asked about  <Xenol> !libxine-extracodecs03:23
intelikey"In component multiverse "03:23
Xenolbut it doesnt give me adress :(03:23
Admiral_Chicago!multiverse03:23
intelikeyyes it does.03:23
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:23
intelikey"In component multiverse "03:23
intelikeyas in you enable multiverse repo and apt-get it03:24
intelikeyor go to the mirror and daviaget to multiverse and dl it if you like.03:24
intelikeynavigate even03:24
trikianyone know how to remove libc6 broken package?03:24
intelikeylol  not likely03:25
HymnToLifelibc6 broken package, that definitely doesn't sound good...03:25
intelikeyyou can try  "sudo dpkg -P --force-all libc6 "    but it's about like formating the drive.03:26
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intelikeyroughly equal to  sudo rm -rf /03:27
intelikeyboth leave a few things but nothing useful03:27
Admiral_Chicagointelikey, how can i use sox?03:27
intelikeyman sox03:27
ravermeistersomebody here03:28
intelikeysox infile1 [ infile2 ... ]  outfile03:28
Admiral_Chicagoravermeister, 297 ppl03:28
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Admiral_Chicagooh wow this is a pretty powerful package03:30
ravermeisterdoes somebody knows a good howto how to configure apache and tomcat, and what i have to do if i want to compile java servlets?03:30
Dr_willis!lamp03:30
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:30
Dr_willisperhaps thats a good start?03:30
Xenolplz i should make multiuniverse  all my repositories?03:31
junkywhat i have to do to play open arena plz?03:31
intelikeytriki why not   sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6[tab-key] 03:31
intelikeyand see if you can finish installing it.03:31
ravermeisteryeah i know lampp, but i prefer to use my existing apache2 and php postgres etcv03:31
Xenol!multiuniverse03:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multiuniverse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:32
ravermeisteri dont want to configure anything again03:32
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, paste you /etc/apt/sources.list03:32
Dr_willisjunky,  install it... whatever it is.. :P run it.... whatever it is...03:32
Admiral_Chicago!paste | Xenol03:32
ubotuXenol: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:32
LjL!multiverse | Xenol03:32
ubotuXenol: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:32
intelikeytriki you did an upgrade and it "went off" on you, did it ?03:32
junkyplz03:33
junkywhat i have to do to play open arena?03:33
Dr_willisjunky,  and what IS 'open arena' dont assume we all know about EVERY possuible program that exists03:34
Dr_willis!openarena03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openarena - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
intelikeyand !arena wont help either03:34
Dr_willis!porn03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
Dr_willis:)03:34
Xenoladmiral_chicago http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36183/03:35
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, i believe the correct name is pr0n03:35
intelikeyporn is that a contraction of pop corn ?03:35
intelikey:)03:35
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  im 'old-skool'03:35
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Admiral_ChicagoXenol, in the K mene, run command "kdesu kate /etc/apt/souces.list"03:35
Admiral_Chicagono quotes03:35
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junkyplzzzzz03:36
intelikeyjunky plzzzz  and hurry or we wont pay you....03:36
ravermeisternobody a good howto??03:36
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Xenoladmiral_chicago and?03:36
ravermeisterand how do i edit my normal jdk so that i can compile servlets??03:36
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, give me a sec03:36
ubuntu_hi03:37
ubuntu_spricht hier jmd deutsch ?03:37
ravermeisterjop03:37
ravermeister;)03:37
intelikey!de03:37
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:37
Dr_willisubuntu_ you may want to change your nick use /nick BillGates__103:37
Dr_willis:)03:37
ravermeistervll kannst du mir ja helfen03:38
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36184/03:38
ravermeisterweist du was ich machen muss um jdk so zu ndern das ich servlets compilieren kann?03:38
Admiral_Chicagocopy and paste the text in the box,03:38
Admiral_Chicagosave the file03:38
Xenoladmiral_chicago wat to do with that? replace ?03:38
intelikey!en03:38
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat03:38
Admiral_Chicagothen in konsole, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs03:38
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Admiral_ChicagoXenol, yes overwrite everything03:39
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geierhabe ubunut runtergeladen gebrannt rein ins cdrom und nu bin icch hier im chat03:39
Admiral_Chicago!dr03:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:39
Admiral_Chicagoerr what's the command03:39
Admiral_Chicago!gr03:39
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes03:39
unix_infidelDr_willis: you said you did testing with live cd's in vmware?03:39
geierhabe zum 1. mal ubuntu wollte das einfach mal testen03:39
Admiral_Chicago!dz03:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:39
geiersry. kubuntu habe ich03:39
LjL!de03:40
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:40
geierfolgendes ..... im start men sind wenig programme ist das normal oder kommen die erst bei ner hd install ?03:40
Admiral_ChicagoLjL, thanks!03:40
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Admiral_Chicagoi couldn't remember it03:40
intelikeycould have scrolled up03:40
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ravermeisterja standard mig is bei ubuntu ned so viel drauf03:41
junkysomeone can say me please what i have to do, to play open arena03:41
ravermeisterkannst aber alles bequem per sudo apt-get install paketname installieren03:41
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Admiral_ChicagoXenol, actually use this one, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36186/03:41
Admiral_Chicagoravermeister, what is open arena+?03:41
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intelikeyjunky you were asked what the hell "open arena"  is.   did you ever answer that ?03:42
ravermeisteri don't know i havent heard from it03:42
Admiral_Chicagohold on a suc03:42
ravermeisterplease i need help03:43
ravermeistermy situation is the following03:43
Xenoladmiral_chocago i cant overwrite it what should i do?03:43
ravermeisteri have installed apache with php fr om the source03:43
Admiral_Chicagoapt-cache search open arena : apt-cache search openarena03:43
Admiral_Chicagonothing came back03:43
ravermeisteri have editied the documentRoot03:43
ravermeisterto a FAT partition,03:43
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, did you open it as kdesu kate?03:43
Admiral_Chicagoyou're not sudo03:44
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago yeah i lookd when he first mantioned it.03:44
ravermeisterand know i wanted to be able to provide jsp files and servlets03:44
Admiral_Chicago:\03:44
ravermeisterhow do i configure apache/ tomcat??03:44
Xenoladmiral_chigaco should i back up original file?03:44
Admiral_ChicagoOpenArena is an open-source content package for Quake III Arena licensed under the GPL, effectively creating a free stand-alone game03:44
ravermeisterand what do i have to do with my jdk sothat it can compile servlets03:44
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, yes03:44
Admiral_Chicago!lamp | ravermeister03:44
uboturavermeister: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:45
intelikeyravermeister if no one in here knows try asking in ##linux  some times you get good networking help in there.   but be patient and don't get bent out of shape if they dog mouth you...03:45
ravermeisterthx03:45
ravermeisteri dont want to use lampp cause the apache from the repos works fine03:46
ravermeisterand i dont want to configure that again03:46
ravermeisterand i heard lampp isn't safe for normal using03:46
trikiwhy not ?03:46
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, what's your status?03:47
intelikeylamp=linux apache mysql php     not a package or program, but an acronym from several common linux distro provided apps.03:47
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trikiyes03:48
trikiwhy is it not safe ?03:48
trikiuses apache203:48
trikiphp503:48
trikimysql new version03:48
ravermeisteryeah i dont know i have heared it, but by the way apache runs fine03:49
ravermeisterand it took a long time to configure everything03:49
trikii'm using it for a torrent tracker, works fine03:49
ravermeisterand 2 apache server are silly isnt it03:49
Xenoladmiral_chicago i just want ot know which repositories i have to change to multiuniverse? those first universe?03:49
trikiconfig is different03:49
intelikeyravermeister then that's one part of "lamp" you already have.   i'll go out on a limb and assume that you have the "linux" portion covered as well  :)03:49
Dr_willishmm.. in the apt.sources the lines that have 'universe' you just add 'multiverse' after the universe word dont ya?03:50
trikiya03:50
Xenolyeah but i should do that for all repositories?03:50
ravermeister<intelikey> i dont have lampp installed03:50
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trikiyes03:50
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, i changed them for you in the new file, all you have to do is copy and paste over your old ones03:50
ravermeisteri installed apache2 via apt-get install03:51
ravermeisterand php the same03:51
Admiral_Chicagoeverything is the same but four lines03:51
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Xenoladmiral_chocago sry man post it again, i am confused and asleep by now do this and i go bed :P03:51
intelikeyDr_willis hehhe yeah.      or actually i just do     sed 's/main.*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' sources.list     :)03:51
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intelikeybut that's just me.03:51
ravermeisterokay but in lampp is still no tomcat or something which can handle servlet/jsp files or ?03:52
Xenoladmiral_chicago, sry man post it again, i am confused and asleep by now do this and i go bed :P03:53
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Admiral_Chicagohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36186/03:53
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vexheyy03:53
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Admiral_Chicagojust open kate in run command, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:54
intelikeyravermeister php5 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)   ???    no?03:54
Admiral_Chicagocopy and paste the stuff in the text box, (not the label with numbers) over everything in that file03:54
intelikeyoh.... tomcat5 - Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support  <--- that.03:54
intelikey!tomcat503:55
ubuntu_Kubuntu completely freezes when installing, on step 5, while loading the partition manager. Is there an alternative way to install?03:55
ubotutomcat5: Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.30-11 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 336 kB03:55
Xenoladmiral_chocago i am afraid i dont have multiuniverse stuff there :/03:55
Xenoladmiral_chicago i am afraid i dont have multiuniverse stuff there :/03:55
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, you need "multiverse"03:55
intelikeyubuntu_ yes the alternate CD  has text based install03:56
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Admiral_Chicagothat's why you don't have any multiuniverse there03:56
ravermeisterokay i have installed tomcar yet03:56
ravermeisterbut i dont know how to configure03:56
Admiral_Chicago<Admiral_Chicago> !multiuniverse <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiuniverse03:56
Xenoladmiral_chicago so i need to add everywhere where is universe add multiuniverse?03:56
ravermeisteri can just see the jsp-examples programmes i dont know how to set the docRoot for tomcat03:56
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, no03:56
ubuntu_intelikey: Can I get those scripts and use them with the standard CD?03:57
intelikeyi dont either i'd have to    "man tomcar"  and see what it said  :)03:57
Admiral_Chicagomultiuniverse does not exist03:57
Admiral_Chicagoyou'd be adding gibberish03:57
Admiral_ChicagoYou want to have a line "universe" and in a seperate line "multiverse"03:57
Admiral_Chicagolike I have in the paste bin I gave you03:57
ravermeisterokay damn, its not easy and do you know03:57
ravermeisterwhat i have to do03:57
intelikeyubuntu_ it could probably be done.    yes.   but don't ask me where to look for them.03:57
trikideb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse03:57
ravermeisteri have downloaded the jdk03:57
ravermeisterbut normally it cant compile servlets03:58
ubuntu_intelikey: ok. thanks for the tip03:58
ravermeisterwhat must i do03:58
Admiral_Chicagotriki, i use this line deb-src http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse03:58
Admiral_Chicagofor his country, etc03:59
Admiral_Chicagoplus security updates etc03:59
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intelikeysrc ?03:59
Admiral_Chicagosource03:59
Xenoladmiral_chicago i overwrote it but in adept i still dont see multiuniverse03:59
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, listen carefully04:00
junkysomeone can say me who i can play action cube plz04:00
Admiral_ChicagoMulti-UNIVERSE does not exist04:00
junkyit display an error while i run actioncube.sh04:00
Admiral_Chicagomulti-VERSE exist, UNIVERSE exists04:00
junkyand 3 steps04:00
XenolOMG04:00
Xenoltrue i am blind04:00
junkyi do the steps and it do the same when i try to run04:00
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, go to a konsole and type "sudo apt-get update"04:00
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, wait you used my paste?04:01
Admiral_Chicagothe sources I pasted to you?04:01
Xenolyup04:01
Admiral_Chicagoin a konsole sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs04:02
junkyplz04:02
junkyno one can help me plx?04:02
Admiral_Chicago!patient | junky04:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
Admiral_Chicago!patience | junky04:03
ubotujunky: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:03
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junkyoks sry04:04
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Admiral_Chicagojunky, it is a saturday night for some of us, we aren't all able to help04:05
Admiral_Chicagothere is great help with the documentation, maybe check out help.ubuntu.com04:05
Admiral_Chicagoor the forums04:05
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junkyoks no problem thx04:05
trikiwhat's the error ?04:06
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Xenoladmiral_chicago i get this Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:08
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, close adept04:08
triki;04:08
Xenoland  do it now?04:08
Admiral_Chicagothen run the command again04:08
Admiral_Chicagohit up on the keyboard04:08
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dbgltwhat's the easiest way to update to feisty from edgy?04:09
Xenoladmiral_chicago04:09
XenolPackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:09
XenolThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:09
Xenolis only available from another source04:09
XenolE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate04:09
Xenolups :/04:10
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get install amarok-xine04:10
trikidbglt: adept04:10
dbglttriki: ?04:11
trikipackage manager04:11
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dbglttriki: since when did it handle updates?04:11
Admiral_Chicagothen try again04:11
Xenoladmiral_chicago got newest version i only need libxine codecs04:11
dbglttriki: or are you just telling me to use it to edit my sources.list?04:11
Xenolbut no repository :/04:11
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, hmm let me try somethingc04:11
Xenolok04:12
trikiit uses the source.list04:12
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dbglttriki: is there an "update" button, or do I just edit my sources.list via a text editor in adept?04:12
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trikido you not have the "Full Upgrade" button ?04:13
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, try this one04:13
Admiral_Chicagohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36193/04:13
dbglttriki: errm04:14
Admiral_Chicagoor if that doesn't work, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36194/04:14
Admiral_Chicagoi gotta run04:14
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dbglttriki: that changes it to feisty? :\04:14
dbglttriki: are you... sure?04:14
trikifeisty is just updated packages04:14
Admiral_ChicagoXenol, good luck, feel free to PM me, i'll get around to it, (eventually)04:14
dbglttriki: which are enabled by default? :\04:15
dbglttriki: so it's the same as doing apt-get updgrade, then?04:15
trikiyes adept is a gui front-end for apt-get04:15
dbgltyes I know that04:16
dbgltbut04:16
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dbgltfor example, dapper -> edgy04:16
dbglthad to change source repositories04:16
dbgltseems odd that I don't need to do that now, no?04:16
trikiyes04:16
dbgltwith a new release04:16
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trikiare you using sources for feisty ?04:16
Xenoladmiral_chicago i am going to bed will use my original for now and do it tommorrow04:16
XenolGN ALL and thx for help04:17
DeadS0ulis feisty stable?04:17
jontecquick... what's the command to start apache?04:17
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trikiapachectl start04:17
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dbglttriki:  no... that's why I asked how to update to it04:17
jontecgracias04:17
trikiyou need to get the apt sources for feisty04:17
dbgltupgrade, whatever04:17
dbglttriki: thank you...04:18
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dbglts/edgy/feisty04:18
dbgltwill that suffice?04:18
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hex_st0rm!gcc04:18
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:18
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trikiyou need to get the apt sources for feistyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30587004:19
trikioops04:20
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trikihere is a forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30587004:20
dbgltyes that's fine04:20
dbgltI assumed I had to do that04:20
dbgltbut from what you said, figured that adept had been made to handle it04:20
dbglt(obviously not :)04:20
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galathalionhow do i play dvd in vlc?04:20
hex_st0rm!pastebin04:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:21
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binary2k2galathalion: in the file menu, choose open disk04:22
hex_st0rmim having trouble installing programs04:22
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hex_st0rmeverytime i try to isntall them i get this...04:23
hex_st0rmhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36195/04:23
hex_st0rmnot sure what could be causing this problem04:23
hex_st0rmany help will be greatly appreciated04:23
galathalionbinary2k2: its not a disc. its a file on my computer04:24
trikidid you try this dpkg --configure -a04:24
hex_st0rmyes, look at that pastebin triki04:24
binary2k2galathalion: yeah, it still works tho, just change the device to the file name04:24
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galathalionbinary2k2: how do i do taht?04:25
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galathalionbinary2k2: no my abd04:26
binary2k2galathalion: when you choose "open disk", change "Device name" to the location of the file04:26
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galathalionbinary2k2: it doesnt say device name anywhere04:26
spawn57w00t04:27
hex_st0rmgah, kubuntu is starting to piss me off. always needing tending to04:27
binary2k2galathalion: what do you see when you choose "open disk" ?04:27
galathalionbinary2k2: media resource locator at the top of the window04:27
binary2k2galathalion: hmm, that different to what I have, but still, just change that to the location of the file04:28
galathalionbinary2k2: i did.. get sound but no video04:29
binary2k2galathalion: can you play it in mplayer?04:29
galathalionbinary2k2: still sound but no image04:30
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binary2k2galathalion: do you have the libdvdread3 and the libdvdcss2 packages?04:32
scott__how do I find an encoder for a dvd player?04:32
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hex_st0rmscott__:check adept man04:33
binary2k2scott__: for authoring there is kmediafactory (as well as others)04:34
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scott__ty04:34
Red_Tearhi ppl04:35
binary2k2galathalion: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9 ?04:35
galathalionbinary2k2: not libdvdcss204:35
galathalionbinary2k2: i couldnt find it eihter04:35
binary2k2galathalion: that link will tell you how ti install it04:35
galathalionbinary2k2: ok thanks. U know how to play .wmv3 in vlc?04:36
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binary2k2galathalion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats will tell you how to play restricted formats, including wmv304:37
binary2k2it's the w32codecs part you'll want fot that04:37
galathalionbinary2k2: ok thank you04:39
binary2k2galathalion: your welcome04:39
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hex_st0rm!pastebin04:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:41
hex_st0rm!adept04:41
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:41
hex_st0rmi do believe something is wrong with my installation process04:42
hex_st0rmhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36196/04:42
hex_st0rmany ideas anyone?04:42
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intelikeyhex sudo apt-get install -f        pastebin the errors if any04:44
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binary2k2hex_st0rm: try running "sudo touch /var/run/clamav" then "sudo dpkg --configure -a" after04:45
BluesKajthe usr/lib/firefox/plugin file already holds a libflashplayer.so file do I overwrite it with the flash9 file , which sipposedly is newer but the dialog says the replacement file older than the existing one ....doesn't make sense if it's supposedly updating frpm flash7 to flash 904:46
hex_st0rmintelikey, same errors as before04:46
hex_st0rmbinary, ill pastebin04:46
hex_st0rmi got a ton04:46
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binary2k2BluesKaj: just go ahead and overwrite it04:47
hex_st0rmwha...i did what you said a second ago binary, and it gave a ton of errors, then i did it again and it did nothing04:48
binary2k2hex_st0rm: pastebin the errors for me04:49
intelikeyhex_st0rm now try the   sudo apt-get install -f04:49
intelikeyif it's fixed that should return with nothing.04:49
hex_st0rmbinary, it filled up terminal and i couldnt find where i inputted the sudo touch.....so i exited and tried agin04:49
hex_st0rmand got nothing04:49
binary2k2intelikey: it's not a dependency issue, so i can't see that helping04:50
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intelikeybinary2k2 that's nice.04:50
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hex_st0rmran what you said inteli, gono errors04:50
hex_st0rmgot  no*04:50
intelikeybinary2k2 you never noticed that it also tries to finish setting up any broke packages....04:51
binary2k2hex_st0rm: when you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" if you get no errors, then everything is fine04:51
intelikeyhex_st0rm then it looks like all is well now.04:51
hex_st0rmk thanks a lot guys04:51
binary2k2intelikey: that's because it runs dpkg --configure -a :p04:52
binary2k2hex_st0rm: glad it's fixed04:52
intelikeybinary2k2 if it does.  then why "<binary2k2> intelikey: it's not a dependency issue, so i can't see that helping"   not that it matters.....04:54
hex_st0rmas am i, what was with the display errors? i had bee having those for a while04:54
hex_st0rmbeen*04:54
intelikey 055. X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:55
intelikey 056.   Major opcode:  14504:55
binary2k2intelikey: apt-get -f install tries to fix dependences, then just runs dpkg --configure -a04:55
intelikeythose ^ ?04:55
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BluesKajbinary2k2, it won't give root access nor will it permit overwriting  :(04:56
binary2k2hex_st0rm: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if you have any enteys for wacom, if you do, that that's the problem04:56
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binary2k2BluesKaj: how are you installing it?04:56
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hex_st0rmyes inteli............binary, enteys?04:56
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BluesKajbinary2k2, trying to move the file into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins04:57
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binary2k2BluesKaj: from the adobe download?04:57
BluesKajlibflashplayer.so04:57
glimmunghi all, I have recently upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10, and I love it, but my previously recognized and usable printer under 6.06 doesnt do anything now under 6.10, any help or ideas?04:58
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DettoAltrimentihey04:58
DettoAltrimentiwhat is feisty?04:58
BluesKaj!feisty04:58
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+104:58
binary2k2BluesKaj: just do "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/"04:58
DettoAltrimenticool04:59
glimmungdid they break printer support in edgy?04:59
DettoAltrimentiis 6.06 the most current stable version right now?04:59
binary2k2DettoAltrimenti: no, 6.10 Edgy Eft04:59
unix_infidel6.06 is the only current LTS04:59
binary2k2DettoAltrimenti: but 6.06 is the long term support version (LTS)05:00
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BluesKajbinary2k2, cp: cannot stat `libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory05:01
intelikey!printer | glimmung05:01
ubotuglimmung: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:01
DettoAltrimentiyeah I am just about to partition my hd and install linux for the first time!05:01
binary2k2BluesKaj: are you installing from the adobe download, or from a deb package?05:01
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musyawhere can i find radio stations?05:02
binary2k2DettoAltrimenti: that's great, if you need any help just ask :D05:02
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musyalike their urls?05:02
BluesKajit's already been untarred from the download05:02
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intelikeymusya google maybe ?05:02
musyaintelikey: why would i be asking here if i havent already tryed it?05:03
binary2k2BluesKaj: cd in to the directory that got untared, and the run that command05:03
glimmungmusya: i recommend somafm05:03
intelikeymusya lazy maybe ?05:03
musyaintelikey: not me05:03
binary2k2musya: what exactly do you mean?05:04
musyafor rythembox05:04
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binary2k2musya: do you mean from the live seream that opens from a website, the URL for that?05:05
musyayea05:05
musyai would suppose so, its the first time i am doing this i couldnt find anything that worked on google05:05
binary2k2musya: (maybe a silly question but) do you use firefox?05:06
musyayea05:06
glimmungwell i just dont understand why my printer worked perfectly under 6.06 but now does nothing under 6.1005:06
glimmungi did the exact same process to set it up as under 6.0605:06
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manchickenAre there any projects that need part-time help?05:07
manchickenI'm not looking for anything too complicated, just something to keep me occupied.05:07
intelikeyglimmung you aren't likely to get a lot of help on hardware perifreals around here.    if the links to  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers &  http://linuxprinting.org   don't help you.....05:08
hex_st0rm!java05:08
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:08
binary2k2musya: if you got to Tools -> Page Info (or Ctrl-I), then go to the MEdia tab and look for Embed in the Type colom you'll get a url05:08
hex_st0rmcurse java doesnt wanna work05:09
binary2k2hex_st0rm: what do you mean?05:09
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glimmungwell that was just wierd, all I had to do was change the usb port it was connected to and now it works05:10
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binary2k2glimmung: on cups (the printing system) upgrade, sometimes it stops printers working, have you tried just removing the printer and adding it again (in system settings)05:10
intelikeyglimmung hehhe actually unplug/replug most likely...05:10
DettoAltrimentiI'm using partitionmagic to make a partition to put kubuntu onto. Is it alright if this partition crosses the 1024 cylinder boundary?05:10
binary2k2glimmung: worked for me before05:10
musyabinary2k2: all there is, is just icon, background, input, and image05:10
musyaim on somafm.com05:11
binary2k2musya: what's the link to the station you want to listen to, that site has a few05:12
musyaah, ok i got it figured out, thanks though05:13
musyai got to get going.05:13
musyaThank You for all of your help05:13
binary2k2DettoAltrimenti: yes, it's just OLD operating systems that don't like that05:13
binary2k2musya: your welcome :D05:13
DettoAltrimentiah so I should keep winxp on the 'front' of the drive and put kubuntu on the 'back,' right05:13
intelikeyyeah xp may cry if it's not hda105:14
binary2k2DettoAltrimenti: yes, that's right, windows need to be in the 'front' of the drive, kubuntu don't care :p05:14
intelikeyxp is like that spoiled brat that you don't like to claim is your kid....05:15
hex_st0rmbinary: java wont run in konq, cant use java shels or play java games or anything05:15
DettoAltrimentiwhat kind of cluster size and partition type should I pick? also, will the install disk do the whole 'swap' partition thing for me?05:15
binary2k2DettoAltrimenti: is it the 'Live' Desktop CD?05:15
DettoAltrimentiyes05:15
intelikeyDettoAltrimenti yes and it will do the whole partition thing tooo05:15
binary2k2DettoAltrimenti: then yes, it will do the whole swap thing for you05:16
intelikeywhether you want it too or not...05:16
BluesKajnope binary2k2 , it won't allow me to copy the file to either the mozilla or firefox usr/lib plugin file05:16
DettoAltrimentiand linux ext3 partition type?05:16
binary2k2DettoAltrimenti: the smallest you want to make the linux partition is 10GB05:16
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intelikey10g  hah05:17
scorp007what's the package for opengl manpages, again?05:17
binary2k2BluesKaj: what error are you getting?05:17
intelikeyit'll install in 3g no problemo05:17
BluesKaji try using  sudo or kdesu in the run command dialog but it just refuses to open and the the terminal won't do anything either05:17
binary2k2intelikey: that's the minimum that the ubuntu wiki states05:17
BluesKaj permission denied05:17
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intelikeyif you use a seprate home partition you probably don't want to waste space in /05:18
intelikeyi'd say 3g /  1g swap and what ever you can spare for /home05:18
binary2k2intelikey: true, but the live installer normaly just makes / and swap05:18
intelikeyno it has manual partitioning also05:19
intelikeyit's convoluted but it's there.05:19
binary2k2BluesKaj: what if you try "sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libflashplayer.so" first?05:19
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binary2k2intelikey: I know, that's why i said 'notmaly'. besides I always use the text installer :p05:20
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intelikeylast time i installed i used the live CD with no X    i should write a paper on that...      44 reasons not to try this...05:21
binary2k2:p05:21
BluesKajheh binary2k2 ..no such file or directory ...wth ?05:21
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intelikeyls -d /usr/lib/firefox/plugin05:22
binary2k2BluesKaj: its /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ (notice the S on the end)05:22
intelikeyyeah...05:22
intelikey{{{ <binary2k2> BluesKaj: what if you try "sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libflashplayer.so" first? }}}05:22
intelikey:)05:23
binary2k2I just copy and paste :p05:23
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BluesKajyeah binary2k2 ...i added the s05:23
scorp007what's the package for opengl manpages, again?05:23
BluesKajlemme check05:24
roothello05:24
rooti'm the fucker root05:24
BluesKajok binary2k2 , the old file is gone05:25
intelikey!language05:25
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:25
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intelikeyscorp007 apt-cache search opengl | grep doc05:25
intelikeyscorp007 apt-cache search opengl | grep -ie doc05:26
binary2k2BluesKaj: now do (from the untared directory) "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libflashplayer.so"05:26
BluesKajpk binary2k2 , it's been added to the file ...success05:26
BluesKaj!05:26
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BluesKajI mean ok05:26
scorp007intelikey: hmmm, mesa-common-dev?05:26
binary2k2BluesKaj: to confirm you have it, in firefox go to "about:plugins" and you should see it05:26
binary2k2scorp007: that's the development files, not documentation05:27
scorp007hmm05:27
scorp007what is it then?05:27
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RugHowdy all.05:28
binary2k2scorp007: gle-doc ?05:28
scorp007gle-doc - OpenGL tubing and extrusion library documentation05:28
RugI've just upgraded to kde 3.5.5 and now my auto-mounter locks up at the "What is your preferred action?" menu05:28
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intelikeybinary2k2 not acording to the info... mesa-common-dev - Developer documentation for Mesa05:29
scorp007intelikey: i have it installed. Doesnt seem to have manpages...05:29
binary2k2intelikey: well then I just don't know05:30
intelikeyscorp007 all i know is how to search,  i don't have opengl05:30
scorp007crap....05:30
scorp007Suse has em...05:30
BluesKajbinary2k2, works on youtube...must be ok ...where is about plugins ?05:30
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intelikey!opengl05:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:31
binary2k2BluesKaj: in the address bar type "about:plugins"05:31
intelikey!openglx05:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openglx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:31
verbosei have a marvell gig-e network card using sky2 module(which is loaded) it detects network link, but can't send/receive network traffic05:32
intelikeyfreeglut3 - OpenGL Utility Toolkit05:32
verbosei know the card is good, it was just working with debian, but i formatted the machine and installed kubuntu05:32
verbosesince then it hasn't worked05:32
binary2k2intelikey: all the documenst in mesa-common-dev are in /usr/share/doc/mesa-common-dev/05:32
verbosei've tried manually config'ing net info, doesn't work, dhcp doesn't work05:32
verboseany suggestions?05:32
binary2k2verbose: is it eth0?05:33
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verbosebinary2k2: yes05:33
intelikeygle-doc - OpenGL tubing and extrusion library documentation05:34
RugAny suggestions/advice?05:34
binary2k2verbose: have you tried "sudo dhclient eth0" ?05:34
verbosebinary2k2: yes05:34
binary2k2verbose: what do you get with "ifconfig eth0" ?05:35
verboseand `sudo ifdown eth0 ` `sudo ifup eth0`05:35
intelikeyscorp007 that's all i see that even looks promicing.05:35
verboselemme paste it on pastebin05:35
binary2k2ok05:35
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marcoHello. Is there a difference in performance between gnome and kde?05:37
intelikeyhave a 'brother MFD'  the printer will print the faxer will fax,  but the scanner wont scan.     any somebody think they know an answer ?05:37
binary2k2marco: no, not realy05:37
Rugmarco: yes, but both depend on how much eye-candy you have turned on.05:37
verbosehmm, it's receiving, just not sending05:37
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intelikeymarco  yes.   kde is really really slow  and gnome is lightening fast   use gnome.05:38
xsachakde is fast for me :)05:38
scorp007i guess ubuntu doesn't have manpages then...05:38
xsachaand i find gnome sluggish :S05:38
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verbosebinary2k2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/iZojMq52.html05:39
Rugmarco: fluxbox, icewm, and xfce are all great for old/slow systems05:39
intelikeyxsacha ssssh   you don't want to spend three days helping him make his faster do you...05:39
binary2k2intelikey: do you have the sane and libsane packages? I don't use a scanner so I dont know05:39
intelikeybinary2k2 yes  and xsane05:39
xsachai didnt make mine faster :P just using what came out of cd :P but it does eat up a lot of RAM05:39
marcotanks. I like the visual ok kde . I think I'll stick with it05:39
intelikeyall xsane will do is say no device found   and  sane-find-scanner   finds it no problem.05:40
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intelikeyxsacha hmmm odd.   i can start kde here and it's only 30m ram used.05:40
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xsachaoh it's probably just aiglx05:41
intelikeyyeah05:41
xsacha250MB ram usage from Xorg05:41
binary2k2verbose: what output do you get with dhclient, any errors?05:41
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intelikeylol05:41
intelikeythat's nuts.....05:41
verbosejust no offers received05:41
verbosebut i tested the dhcpd on another machine...it's working05:42
xsachaintelikey: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/815/cpusc1.png05:42
verbosealso, when i statically assign an address i can't talk to anything on the lan05:42
verboseor anywhere else for that matter05:42
verbosei can ping localhost so it's not a problem with the network stack05:42
xsachait gets up to 250MB some times..05:42
verbosei'm rebooting05:43
binary2k2verbose: I don't know then, you can try with the driver found with google http://tinyurl.com/u4fta05:43
xsachai find it very hard to get above 10% cpu05:43
verbosebinary2k2: that's so weird though cause on debian i was running 2.6.17 as well05:44
verboseso it should be the same driver05:44
verbosebarring patches that differ in ubuntu/debian05:44
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verbosei don't know if there are any for this nic or not05:44
verboseso much for things 'just working'05:45
xsachaintelikey: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/534/animationmn2.png :P05:45
Agent_bobxsacha drop that url on me again.05:45
xsachaAgent_bob: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/815/cpusc1.png05:45
binary2k2verbose: well, if debain work, just go with debian05:45
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Agent_bobhmmm not loading for some reason.05:46
intelikeyi dropped the url s both of them  in knoq  but niether seem to be loading.05:47
Agent_boboh wait yes it si.   just slow.05:47
xsacha:O imageshack has been slow since yesterday05:47
Agent_bobdialup.05:47
Agent_bobhehhhe    1623 root      15   0 37304 7852 3256 S  8.7  3.1   0:21.42 Xorg05:48
binary2k2 6741 root      15   0  399m 136m 8828 S  1.7  9.0  50:22.98 Xorg05:49
Agent_bobmine is still lower05:49
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Agent_boband this cpu is 350mhz05:49
xsachatry running aiglx + beryl05:50
Agent_boband yes that's kde05:50
xsachaaiglx makes xorg memory shoot up a lot05:50
Agent_bobno sir.05:50
binary2k2beryl 0.1.3 with aiglx on intel 845G intergrated graphics05:50
xsachathose teo screenshots above were with beryl05:50
xsacha0.3% cpu usage :) 99.7% idle05:50
binary2k2my xorg mem before beryl was 53m05:50
intelikeyi started to install nvidia drivers one time.   it asked do you agree and i said no  that's as far as i ever got.05:51
verboseso you recommend aiglx over xgl?05:51
xsachalol05:51
xsachadefinately05:51
intelikeymy total is still lower that 53m05:51
binary2k2verbose: aiglx is much better than xgl05:51
xsacha 8961 root      15   0 1395m 138m 3368 S  0.3 27.9  30:46.12 Xorg05:51
xsachabut i have ~15MB without beryl running05:52
intelikeytotal ram used. 51m  as we speak.05:52
xsachaintelikey: i guess you dont use any gtk apps?05:52
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intelikeygtk ?05:52
binary2k2intelikey: I was just playing quake3 tho, so I expect it to be ~50m before beryl05:52
xsachayeah05:52
intelikeykonqueror looking at your screeny05:52
intelikeyis konq not gtk ?05:53
xsachaqt05:53
intelikeyoh yeah.   mmmm let me think.05:53
binary2k2nothing in KDE is gtk05:53
binary2k2unless you install GTK apps05:53
xsachai have skype though.. that's worse05:53
binary2k2I use gizmo progect insted of skype05:53
intelikeygtk-query-immodules-2.0  shows that i must be using something....05:54
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Agent_boboooh yuck   gtk module path encludes   /usr/local/src/.gtk-2.0/2.4.0/i486-pc-linux-gnu/immodules05:56
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intelikeyother than synaptic xchat evolution gnome-games and metacity    i dont think i have anything gtk dependant installed......06:00
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intelikey:)06:00
binary2k2well firefox uses gtk06:00
intelikeybut i don't use ff06:00
binary2k2I con't live without firefox :p06:00
intelikeyi do use mozilla tho and i think it may be gtk also.06:00
binary2k2s/con't/can't/06:01
binary2k2mozilla is too, yes06:01
intelikeyi could live without all web browsers.06:01
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binary2k2elinks rocks :p06:01
intelikeyirc might be a problem for me tho.....06:01
binary2k2what client are you using then?06:02
intelikeylinks2 -g  or elinks    i don't much like ssl so i don't need elinks06:02
intelikeyoh client  bx.06:02
xsachawhat's that emulated gtk - like thing called?06:02
intelikey?06:03
binary2k2not a clue06:03
intelikeybinary2k2 ksirc is nice imo if you like gui.   bx if you go comando06:03
intelikeyi have a habbit of avoiding what ever is most popular.06:04
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binary2k2I've used ksirc, bun in term I use irssi06:04
intelikeyff konversation amerok...06:04
binary2k2but it's rare i use irssi06:04
intelikeyyes and irssi added to that list.06:04
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binary2k2god I love amarok tho06:05
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craftycornermy ethernet card is working fine in Linux but is registering as having error in windows06:05
binary2k2craftycorner: then don't use windows06:06
craftycornercan that mean that the ethernet card is fine?06:06
craftycornerwell, there are some things you need windows for, I'm still learning Linux06:06
binary2k2craftycorner: if it works in linux, it's a windows problem06:06
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binary2k2craftycorner: sorry about the "don't use windows" thing, I couldn't help myself :p06:07
craftycornerok, the other problem I am having, it's a Linux issue, I am trying to record video off my TV06:07
intelikeycraftycorner "there are some things you need windows for"    like what ?06:07
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intelikeyoh yeah   BSOD  and virii06:07
craftycornerright now, I know it better than Linux, it will go bye bye when I get Linux under belt06:08
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craftycornerBSOD will record video off my video card?06:08
xsachalol06:08
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craftycornerI'm looking for a way to record video from my capture card06:09
craftycornerTVTime is good for watching06:09
corinanybody know why I would have lower fps on a game in Linux than in windows?06:10
xsachaintelikey: XUL was what i was thinking of06:10
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intelikeyyou could record it raw but that would load an hd quickly.  so you want something that will encode it.06:10
intelikeyxsacha ?06:10
xsachafirefox uses XUL?06:11
intelikeyoh.   beets me.06:11
craftycorneryea, MPEG2, although the puter isn't real fast06:11
Jucatoyes, but also uses GTK06:11
binary2k2if you're feeling l33tish you can use mythtv, but good luck setting it up06:11
craftycornermythtv was a pain!  I had to ditch it!06:11
binary2k2exactly06:11
craftycornerI installed dvr but can't find it  in my Kmenu06:12
binary2k2if you manage to get it working, it's great, but it's gotting it working that a bith06:12
craftycornerI want it to turn up in my kmenu and run, easilly06:12
craftycornerI'd pass on mythtv if I can06:12
intelikeyi bet there is a way to pipe the device streight through an encoding app    dd if=/dev/tvcard | mpg123 filename.avi   or some such....    (that's just an example btw)06:13
binary2k2i gave up on mythtv ages ago06:13
craftycornerlol06:13
craftycornerI got Kino, but how do I get it to read my video spitting up the puter's butt?06:14
craftycornerwhat app can record video being squirted into a computer?06:15
intelikeythat would be a good question for  ##linux06:15
intelikey:)06:15
xsacha!squirted06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about squirted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
intelikeyworded just like that.....06:15
intelikey:)06:15
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craftycornerI"m exasperated06:16
intelikeycraftycorner ask in  ##linux06:16
xsacha!I_got_Kino,_but_how_do_I_get_it_to_read_my_video_spitting_up_the_puter's_butt? | #linux06:17
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intelikeyif the normal crew is there.   that will actually get you an answer.   if not that will get you laughted out of the channel.06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about I_got_Kino,_but_how_do_I_get_it_to_read_my_video_spitting_up_the_puter's_butt? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
intelikeyi liked  {{{ <craftycorner> what app can record video being squirted into a computer? }}}06:17
binary2k2you wanna get flamed? join the debian development mailinglist and post a sudgestion :p06:18
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craftycornerhwo do ii register06:18
intelikeyyeah  hay!  #debian would be a good channel for that Q also.06:19
intelikey/msg nickserv help06:19
binary2k2intelikey: nope :p06:19
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intelikeybinary2k2 whys that ?06:20
craftycornerhow do I register a nic name06:20
binary2k2"[05:19]  <intelikey> /msg nickserv help"06:20
intelikey/msg nickserv help06:20
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binary2k2you forgot the capitals06:20
binary2k2thay matter06:20
craftycornerIT ISn't working06:20
intelikeynot here they don't06:21
intelikeyi did exactly that and get06:21
corin_my registered nickname is already in use?!06:21
intelikey-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- NickServ allows you to "register" a nickname06:21
intelikey          and06:21
intelikey-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- prevent others from using it. The following06:21
intelikey-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- commands allow for registration and maintenance06:21
intelikeycorin_ you can use nickserv to reclaim it.06:22
craftycornerbut how do I use the commands?06:22
corin_intelikey: how?06:22
corin_recover06:22
corin_k06:22
binary2k2intelikey: well shut me up, it works :p06:22
intelikey/msg nickserv help06:22
corin_woot i killed somebody :)06:22
intelikeybinary2k2 ok    SHUT UP !06:22
intelikey :)06:22
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SupremeBeingthere we go :)06:23
SupremeBeingthanks06:23
intelikeynp06:23
craftycornercopypaste of any words on the list don't do anythig06:23
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SupremeBeingintelikey: are you a gamer by any chance?06:23
intelikeylol   but only for a few seconds binary2k206:23
intelikeySupremeBeing no06:23
SupremeBeingrats06:24
craftycornerjust tell me the command to register a nick name and I can cut and paste it06:24
SupremeBeingmsg nickserv register *nickname* *password*06:24
intelikeySupremeBeing i out grew that before nintindo was born06:24
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SupremeBeingintelikey: :) lol06:24
SupremeBeingintelikey: you can't outgrow gaming :)06:24
intelikeybut don't forget the leading   /06:24
intelikeySupremeBeing why not ?06:24
craftycornerNickServ- Unknown command [craftycorner] 06:24
craftycornerI'm getting unknown commands06:25
xsachayou forgot the 'register'06:25
SupremeBeingintelikey: It's universal and it keeps your mind sharp :)06:25
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intelikeyit should say you must register first.06:25
binary2k2craftycorner: do /msg NickServ register (password)06:25
SupremeBeingoh ya my bad06:25
craftycornerit's not working06:26
binary2k2in konversation (don't know about other clients) "/ns register (password)" works too06:26
intelikeynot in bx06:26
SupremeBeingdude i'll take ur name and register it for you ffs :/06:27
binary2k2then i'll just say "konversation rocks" :p06:27
intelikeybinary2k2 just because it's got one script by default that i havent setup in bx ???06:28
intelikey-:- BitchX: Checking tables...06:28
intelikey-:- No information for identify06:28
intelikeyso it would if i set it up.06:28
craftycornerworked06:28
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binary2k2intelikey: it's not a script, it just works :p06:28
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intelikeybinary2k2 i bet it is.  you have no idea how many scripts your "konversation" has.06:29
intelikeyi was stunned to see how many other clients had.06:30
intelikeybut it could be hard coded....   i haven't checked.06:30
binary2k2intelikey: I looked in /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/ it's not there06:30
intelikeylet me see if i have konversartion installed......06:31
xsachai like [ [word]  ] 06:31
binary2k2if you have kubuntu, it's installed by default06:31
intelikeynope not installed.06:31
intelikeyi know that.06:31
binary2k2xsacha: I altered that to point to wiki.ubuntu.com to save time :p06:31
xsachaand /sysinfo06:32
intelikeyi don't think i have ever installed kubuntu-desktop here....    did on someone elses box tho.06:32
intelikeyonly made the mistake of installing ubuntu-desktop one time.06:32
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intelikeyi like that much on a good day.06:34
intelikeyless on others06:34
intelikeyi kinda have this hate hate relationship with 'nome06:35
intelikeyand amarok too06:35
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SupremeBeinglol06:35
SupremeBeingkaffeine > amarok06:35
binary2k2I love amarok, can't live without it06:36
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SupremeBeingi hate gnome because for some reason, the network config freezes when I enable rausb006:36
intelikey!start a mediaplayer war06:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start a mediaplayer war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:36
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SupremeBeingand I can't reboot X or anything, have to reboot06:36
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intelikeyi wish they hadn't removed that feture form the bot.06:36
SupremeBeinglol06:36
intelikeythey casterated the bot.06:37
intelikeyno wait is ubotu got a port or dungle ?06:38
intelikeywell there is something missing form the bot now.06:38
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intelikey!start an editor war06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start an editor war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
intelikey!start a desktop war06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start a desktop war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
intelikey!start a distro war06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start a distro war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
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intelikey!myself06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
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paul___hey- I need help06:40
intelikeywhat ya need ?06:40
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paul___I just installed kubuntu, and I don't know what the 'root' password is06:40
paul___how do I log in as root?06:40
intelikeyit doesn't heve one06:40
intelikey!sudo06:40
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:40
intelikeyread that ^06:41
binary2k2!start sudo war06:41
binary2k2:p06:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start sudo war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:41
intelikeypaul___ if you for some reason feel compeled to set a root passwd i'll tell you how.  but plese read that first.06:41
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binary2k2intelikey: you on the kubuntu mailing list??06:41
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binary2k2*kubuntu-users06:42
intelikeynope not part of the team.  i don't even like ubuntu ....06:42
SupremeBeingwha?06:42
binary2k2there's a MEGA thread on sudo atm :p06:42
paul___agh I just want to mount a drive!06:43
binary2k2or rather su vs sudo06:43
binary2k2paul___: sudo mount06:43
binary2k2and use YOUR user password06:43
manchicken!start scratching your butt...06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start scratching your butt... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
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intelikeyhey i didn't like my ex-wife but i used her for years....   why should ubuntu be so different.06:43
intelikey:)06:44
binary2k2try telling that to some people :p06:44
intelikeylol   yeah i know there are places to NOT say such things.06:44
intelikeymost of you guys know me here...06:45
dbglthelp!06:45
dbgltupgraded to feisty06:45
dbglt(or trying to)06:45
dbgltUnpacking replacement kdebase-data ...06:45
dbgltdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb (--unpack):06:45
dbglt trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kinfocenter/cdinfo/index.cache.bz2', which is also in package kcontrol06:45
dbglthow do I fix that up?06:45
manchickenFeisty is still unstable...06:46
MotorCityMadManwireless network06:46
Jucatodbglt: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 :)06:46
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MotorCityMadManwireless06:46
intelikeydbglt try sudo mv /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kinfocenter/cdinfo/index.cache.bz2 . ;sudo apt-get install -f06:47
MotorCityMadMan!wireless network06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wireless network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
intelikeyit's a hack but might work.06:47
MotorCityMadMan!wireless06:47
binary2k2dbglt: 1) feisty is a development version and is NOT stable06:47
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:47
dbgltbinary2k2: oh, I'm well aware - I'm just not very familiar with apt architecture06:47
intelikey!wifi | MotorCityMadMan06:47
ubotuMotorCityMadMan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:47
dbgltcan't really troubleshoot it very well :)06:47
binary2k2dbglt: 2) dpkg --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb06:47
intelikey-i  ^06:48
binary2k2ahh, yeah :p06:48
binary2k2dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb06:48
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intelikeybinary2k2 there ya go.06:48
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intelikeybinary2k2 are you sure that's the package name for fisty ?06:49
binary2k2intelikey:  <dbglt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb (--unpack):06:49
binary2k2so yeah06:50
intelikeywe all have blond moments.06:50
raulIs there a way to make kpdf use a specific font. anybody?06:50
intelikeythat was mine.06:50
binary2k2:p06:50
intelikeyraul pdf's specify their own fonts     no ?06:50
intelikeythat's another thing i have against pdf06:51
dbgltcan you pass a force-overwrite or some such via apt?06:51
raulwhat if we dont have the font?06:51
dbgltor need to use dpkg directly?06:51
dbglt(just for future reference)06:51
intelikeydbglt dpkg06:51
dbgltapt man page doesn't seem to say anything about it06:51
binary2k2dbglt: no, apt won't pass anything to dpkg06:51
intelikeyare you sure ?06:51
binary2k2dbglt: do the dpkg command then "sudo apt-get -f install"06:52
binary2k2intelikey: yep06:52
dbgltbinary2k2: aye, thanks06:52
intelikeywell apt-get does accept   --force-yes06:53
binary2k2intelikey: that's nothing to do with dpkg06:53
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raulhave a nice day everyone06:54
dbgltthat's just to accept things, correct?06:54
dbgltauto say yes06:54
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binary2k2it's just to force apt to install, like if it can't verify the package06:54
nikkuncan anyone help me with an odd partitioning problem06:54
nikkun?06:54
binary2k2nikkun: depends on the problem06:55
nikkunmy partitions wont auto mount06:55
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intelikeybinary2k2 i know it's not.  jsut an answer to the quarry about force and apt.06:55
binary2k2nikkun: do you have a entry for it in fstab?06:55
nikkunyep06:55
nikkunhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31594806:55
nikkunits in that post06:55
binary2k2nikkun: have you checked the UUIDs?06:56
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nikkunbinary2k2: how do i do that? I have never messed with the fstab in ubuntu06:57
intelikeynikkun error in line    /dev/ /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 006:57
binary2k2nikkun: eg: sudo vol_id /dev/hda106:57
intelikeyyou can not mount /dev/06:57
binary2k2yep, that line's wrong06:58
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nikkunthe uuid nubmers are right06:59
nikkuncould it be with the umask or gid?06:59
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binary2k2nikkun: just noticed, you don't have "auto" in the lines07:00
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nikkunbinary2k2: this is the fstab made by ubuntu so it knows the file formats of them07:01
binary2k2nikkun: change "UUID=BAF4-9DCF /media/transfer vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1" to "UUID=BAF4-9DCF /media/transfer vfat auto,defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1"07:01
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binary2k2nikkun: and "UUID=38205CE2205CA920 /media/windows ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1" to "UUID=38205CE2205CA920 /media/windows ntfs auto,defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1"07:02
nikkunok07:02
binary2k2just add "auto" to them07:02
binary2k2that's tells ubuntu to mount them at boot07:02
nikkunahh ok07:02
nikkunok well if it doesnt work ill be back in here lol07:03
binary2k2:p ok07:03
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magnanimo?07:05
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nikkunjust poped in to say thanks it worked :)07:11
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binary2k2great :D07:11
jetcanyone know how to set permission where a certain user can't access a folder?07:11
binary2k2jetc: sudo07:12
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jetchrmm?07:14
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binary2k2jetc: what exactly do you want to do?07:18
jetci want my /media/ folder and its contents to be only viewable by my account and nobody else's07:19
binary2k2jetc: hmm, ok07:19
binary2k2jetc: sudo chown [youruser] :[youruser] 07:19
binary2k2jetc: then: chmod 700 /media07:20
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jetcok, thx07:20
binary2k2no problem, tho I don't know why you'd want to do that :p07:21
jetc;o07:21
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prophitincanyone ever use those sites that are pointless like myspace and such?07:28
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binary2k2myspace = spam overload07:29
prophitincwell anyways you know the slax background that has the green background witht he 4leaf clover in the middle with big black letters slax under it07:29
prophitincwell i tried out that tagged.com site07:29
prophitincand they wouldnt let me add that picture as my background....so i made my own...please if you will check it out you dont have to join just go look see...if you will...http//www.tagged.com/prophitinc07:30
prophitincits a message to corporate america...the dirty bastards07:30
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prophitincyeah thats the only reason i went to see what all those were about...turns out the site is worthless....amazing that people spend so much time doing nothing on the net07:31
craftycornerok, myth didn't work, cuz my TV tuner card isn't what i wanna hook up.  I wanna feed S-Video into my computer from my cable box07:31
craftycorneris this where I wanna be for advice?  I don't wanna be a pest,07:32
craftycornerI don't have a TV tuner card, I've a video card, dif animal07:32
xsachaso you want this different animal to spit up your computer ass?07:33
xsacha(quotes from you)07:34
craftycornerlol, send video up my video card so I can record it to an mpeg file07:34
prophitincif the video card doesnt support in feed it wont work will it?07:34
craftycornerum, I am getting signal, I watch video using TVTime.07:35
craftycornerTVTime doesn't RECORD the feed07:35
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prophitincwhat video card are you using?07:35
craftycornerhwo do i find out?07:35
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prophitincit was on the box or should have been07:36
craftycornerchecking...07:36
notechprophitinc: the link you posted...hardly mature07:36
prophitincwho cares?....that site is worthless07:37
craftycornerI mean, I didn't build this computer, it was built 4 me.  looking at the KInfoCenter.07:37
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notechprophitinc: if you don't care what it makes you look like, that's fine07:38
prophitincbut you are saying crafty that the video card has an svideo spot on it07:38
craftycorneryes, I am watching SVideo on tvtime07:38
prophitincwhat notech it makes me look like what?....its not like it matters...no one but you will ever see it and when the site admins do they will delete it07:38
prophitincno harm no foul07:38
craftycorner?07:39
craftycorneryes, my video card has SVideo07:39
craftycornerjust a sec07:39
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craftycornerS Video is the only feed that works07:40
prophitincso the vga doesnt work at all?07:40
craftycornerno07:40
craftycornerI don't have it plugged in07:40
craftycornerpain in the butt07:40
prophitincok did you ever find out what the card is?07:41
craftycornerwhere can I do a big pastedump07:41
craftycornerX-Server is what I got when I did a search on puter07:42
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craftycorneris a video card on the motherboard?07:44
binary2k2!pastebin | craftycorner07:46
ubotucraftycorner: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:46
notechmore like a motherboard video is a video chipset, not a card07:46
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craftycornerok, checking07:52
craftycornerchipset is KT6V07:52
craftycornerseries07:52
craftycornerVia Raid07:53
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craftycornerKT6V MS-7021(V1X) ATX Mainboard is what it says on my pampthlet07:55
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craftycornernotech, does that tell u anything?07:56
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craftycornerhello?08:00
SupremeBeingwhat's the default size of the swap partition08:00
binary2k2SupremeBeing: about 1 to 1.5 times your RAM08:01
SupremeBeingHmm.08:01
craftycornercan u tell me what to use to turn what's shown on TVTime to a mpeg file?08:01
craftycornermythtv is too slow08:01
binary2k2SupremeBeing: over 1GB ram then 1x RAM, less then 1.5x08:01
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SupremeBeingbinary2k2: K08:02
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SupremeBeingbinary2k2: any possible reasons why i'd have about 1/3 the fps in a game as I do in windoze?08:05
dustinHey08:05
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HearWaI just made the switch from Gentoo to Kubuntu, and I can't believe the differences! I thought kubuntu would just be another distro, but was I ever wrong!08:06
SupremeBeingwow08:06
SupremeBeinglol08:06
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HearWaSeriously, it's been a while since I've been this impressed with any piece of software.08:06
binary2k2SupremeBeing: that's strange, i have  2x frame rate in linux08:07
HearWaIt even recognized the freaking volume dial on my keyboard08:07
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: Indeed, that's what I've heard08:07
HearWaBut anyways, enough nug-hugging, I have a little problem here.08:07
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: That's what I really wanted from Linux, but it's not coming to pass08:07
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HearWanut*08:07
SupremeBeingnug-hugging lol08:07
SupremeBeingoh08:07
SupremeBeingeww?08:07
HearWahaha08:07
binary2k2SupremeBeing: what's getting the low frame rate?08:07
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory (quake 3 engine)08:08
HearWaOk, here's the problem: I was into kde once and I found a graphical package manager in the menu. I restarted my computer and it is no longer there! What's the command to launch it?08:08
SupremeBeingAdept?08:08
HearWaYes, that was the name. I couldn't remember it.08:08
SupremeBeing:)08:09
HearWaHow do I launch it if it's not in the menu?08:09
SupremeBeingin the Konsole08:09
binary2k2SupremeBeing: hmm, i play quake 3 arena, and it's truly a great experience08:09
HearWaI typed 'adept' in the konsole and it never launched.08:09
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: Indeed :) so how  sohuld I fix it08:09
SupremeBeingHearWa: sudo adept08:09
SupremeBeingHearWa: must run as root08:09
HearWasudo: adept: command not found08:10
SupremeBeingHearWa: Hmmm, that's not a good sign08:10
binary2k2HearWa: kdesu adept08:10
SupremeBeingwhy wouldn't sudo work?  it worked for me08:11
binary2k2of you can find adept, the install kubuntu-desktop (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"08:11
HearWaI'll post the output in a pastebin, brb08:11
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HearWahttp://quickfry.com/pastebin/view.php?id=2108:12
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: any ideas why i'd have very low fps?  I have fglrx working, glxgears yields good fps08:12
SupremeBeingHearWa: Do what he said, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:12
SupremeBeingHearWa: seems like adept got removed08:12
HearWaI think I might have removed something I shouldn't have in the last session.08:12
binary2k2SupremeBeing: what hardware have you got?08:12
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: ATI X1300 256 (agp)08:12
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: 3.0 ghz P4, 1gb ram08:12
binary2k2SupremeBeing: do you have the binary drivers?08:13
HearWaSo that command will reinstall it?08:13
SupremeBeingyes08:13
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: I have fglrx08:13
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: I believe those are the binary drivers (but I'm not sure)08:13
binary2k2SupremeBeing: have you tested the fps with the binary driver VS the ubuntu one?08:13
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HearWaThis all started when I tried to install libaa108:14
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: well, the only way I can seem to get 3d accel is with the ubuntu one08:14
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: the ATi installer never worked out for me :/08:14
HearWaIt said something about removing the kdm, which I thought was really strange.08:14
SupremeBeinglol ;)08:14
HearWaI'm such a newb to this distro. :(08:14
SupremeBeingHearWa: me too, really =)08:15
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binary2k2SupremeBeing: I have an intergrated intel chipset so I don't know muck about the ATI drivers08:15
binary2k2btw, AIGLX ROCKS :p08:15
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SupremeBeingbinary2k2: I   installed that when I was working on Beryl, what is it?08:16
binary2k2aiglx?08:16
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: yeah08:16
rabbycn:)08:16
binary2k2It's a was of getting 3D accelerated affects with DRI (direct/hardware rendering)08:17
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caseyomah!css08:18
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:18
binary2k2XGL is the (older) other way that the nvidia (for example) cards use08:18
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: ok, do I need to do something with that to help my fps?08:18
HearWaOk, sweet, it worked!08:18
SupremeBeingHearWa: Congrats :)08:19
caseyomahIs there an Edgy repo for libdvdcss or should I use Dapper?08:20
binary2k2SupremeBeing: have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?08:21
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HearWaHmm... in kubuntu do you have to install the offical nvidia graphics driver binary yourself?08:21
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: Yes, many times08:21
binary2k2caseyomah: look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:21
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towychello world.08:22
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: weird thing is, I think my glxgears output was normal :/08:22
Hobbseecaseyomah: "locate install-css" and paste the result in here08:22
towyctrouble with beryl?08:22
Hobbseetowyc: ask in #beryl08:22
towyci was asking you.08:22
SupremeBeingtowyc: or #ubuntu-xgl08:22
towyc=)08:22
SupremeBeingwhoops08:22
SupremeBeinglol08:22
towychey supreme08:22
towyclol08:22
towyc2 days no see =)08:22
SupremeBeingindeed :)08:22
SupremeBeinghad to  reinstall again08:22
SupremeBeingstupid beryl.....08:23
towycnice08:23
caseyomahThanks.08:23
towyci meant08:23
towyci don't know =)08:23
towyclol08:23
SupremeBeinglol08:23
binary2k2SupremeBeing: them, if you are using the binary drivers?, switch back to the ubuntu ones08:23
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: I'm on the ubuntu ones08:23
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: i don't think the binary ones worked08:23
binary2k2I don't know then, kinda loas here as I don't have a ATI card in any of my boxs08:24
towychey i just saw geforce 7800gs for 230 dollars, it's the agp version too08:24
towyci'm so gonna get it tomorrow08:24
towycwhen my friend returns my credit card lol08:25
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SupremeBeingswish!08:25
SupremeBeingI hate ATi with a passion08:25
towyclol08:25
SupremeBeingI bought this before I was enlightened08:25
binary2k2towyc: 1) $230 on a graphics card, wtf? and 2) you gave your friend your credit card?08:26
SupremeBeinglol08:26
towyci almost bought a 6800gs last semester08:26
towyclol08:26
towyc230 its cheap08:26
towycthe new 8800 is like 500+08:26
binary2k2intel works great thanks :p08:26
towyc=)08:26
binary2k2aigls with no problems :p08:26
binary2k2*aiglx08:27
towycbut it doesn't do so well in like the newer games =)08:27
binary2k2ak SupremeBeing (sorry SupremeBeing) :p08:27
binary2k2s/ak/ask/08:27
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towyco08:27
HearWaThanks for the help, later.08:27
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: No problem :P08:28
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towycu guys should just check out newegg.com08:28
towycthey h ave great stuff there08:28
towyceven if u don't want graphics card, they got like the cheapest everything08:28
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binary2k2even tho I have a crappy intel 845G intergrated graphics, I get great fps on games and beryl works like a charm. thank god for linux08:29
towycanyway, the 8800 i saw had like 765 mb memory on it too08:29
towycdidn't know that =)08:29
towycyeah well i got nvidia and beryl doesn't work for me, dAmn it, lol08:29
binary2k2that's because the nvidia drivers (from ubuntu) need XGL08:30
SupremeBeingBeryl won't work for anybody that's not divinely blessed by the Pope and at least 5   nuns08:30
binary2k2(which is crap :p )08:30
SupremeBeingugh i can't find anything about this08:31
binary2k2the pope (and 5 nuns) must love me than :p08:31
towycdoes it matter tho08:31
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towyccuz doesn't it say aiglx works too08:31
towycright?08:31
towyci'm new to kubuntu08:31
towycso i don't know at all08:31
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towycor is aiglx the thing that's supposed to fix ati cards08:32
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binary2k2aiglx only works with the beta nvidia drivers from the nvidia website08:32
towycoo that might be my problem08:32
binary2k2but the driver is a bets, so it may not even work that well08:32
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towyci've given up on beryl so long ago lol08:32
towyceven tho linux is my main os now08:32
towyci only have ms on one laptop and everything else is kubuntu08:32
binary2k2once you go linux, you HATE windows :p08:32
towycbut no beryl = no fun08:32
SupremeBeingtrue08:33
towycwell i don't hate windows08:33
SupremeBeingI tolerated windows until kubuntu opened my eyes =)08:33
towycthey seem to have a good slogan, clarity08:33
towycthe new window slogan i meant08:33
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SupremeBeingwhat's that?08:33
towycclarity.08:33
tamacrackerHey guys?08:33
tamacrackerIs there an app I can download that'll let me listen to AM radio?08:34
tamacrackerAM Radio Stations*08:34
towycyes i laughed. lmao, but it's a good vision even if they don't ever get there08:34
binary2k2I have 1 XP machine (for the people in the family who are too dumb to use linux) and I HATE having to use it on the odd time I have to install updates and such08:34
towycso where do i get xgl?08:34
SupremeBeingi think you have to add a repo08:34
SupremeBeingand apt-get it08:34
towyco08:35
towyccuz everytime i start beryl08:35
towycit says xgl not found, video card, found08:35
towycand then it says08:35
binary2k2towyc: I think there is info on http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager08:35
towycattempting to open without xgl08:35
towycand then gets stuck after08:35
towyccool thx i'll check it out08:35
SupremeBeingi thought aiglx was preferred to xgl08:35
SupremeBeingfor beryl08:35
towycyeah me too08:35
tamacrackerDoes anyone know if there's a program I can download to listen to am radio?08:35
towycthat's why i dn't get why i can't get it to work08:35
towycall that happens when i say beryl-manager08:36
towycis a black background coming up08:36
binary2k2it is, but ati and nvidia don't have good support fot it08:36
towycthen why is aiglx perfered?08:36
towycjust asking08:36
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binary2k2nvidia only havve some support in it beta drivers08:36
towyccuz would aiglx be preferred for other things08:36
towycbut aiglx supports ati?08:36
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binary2k2towyc: i'm not an exper in it, so it may do?08:37
SupremeBeingI'm gonna try the ATI-proprietary drivers08:37
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binary2k2aiglx is the project that is being developed, xgl is going to die08:37
towycbinary2k2 i don't know, just trying to gather as much info as i could =)08:38
towyco08:38
tamacrackerDoes anyone know if there's a program I can download for Kubuntu that'll let me listen to AM radion stations?08:38
binary2k2xgl is an old, stop gap, mesure08:38
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binary2k2aiglx is the future :p08:39
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towycwell i'll get whatever that's gonna work08:39
towyc=)08:39
towyco btw08:39
towycwhen i use web browsers08:39
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towyceverytime i start a new window08:39
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: what's your output from glxgears?08:39
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: I wanna compare08:39
towycit first presents a blackscreen08:39
towycand then it shows the contents08:39
towycwhy is that...08:39
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towycbut that might be minor question cuz08:39
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platypusi try burning cd using k3b08:40
binary2k2towyc: maybe it's just loading>08:40
binary2k2?08:40
platypusit says that my data won't fit on dvd08:40
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towycyeah it's loading08:40
platypusmy data = 3.7g08:40
towycbut why black screen08:40
towyci don't like blackscreen lol =(08:40
platypusdvd = 4.7g08:40
platypusanyone else have this problem ?08:40
towycit doesn't ever show blackscreen on any other webbrowser that i've seen08:40
towycas in internet explorer and stuff08:40
towycanyway08:41
towycthe bigger question is, why is it that the desktop gadget things always report used ram = 900mb08:41
towycwhen my total ram is only 1g08:41
towyci think somehow everything's slower on my desktop kubuntu =*(08:41
binary2k2SupremeBeing: ~400 FPS (with berly ~1200 FPS without)08:42
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tamacrackerDoes anyone know if kubuntu can recieve streaming music from radio stations?08:42
binary2k2towyc: it's normal for ram to be 90-95% in use08:42
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binary2k2towyc: it's just the cashe08:42
towycbut then on other desktop gadgets08:42
towycit's reporting 200mb in use08:42
towyclike they're not even coharrent08:43
towycand everything seems slow all of a sudden, always, after like 1 hr of use08:43
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: and what fps do you get in q3?08:43
towyc=:((08:43
binary2k2towyc: maybe becaue the other gadgets it's not reporting the cache use08:43
towycalrights =)08:43
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binary2k2SupremeBeing: I haven't tested yet, only just (a few hours ago) re-installed it08:44
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: cause I'm getting about 2300-2800 in glxgears08:44
SupremeBeing:/08:44
SupremeBeingI should be above 30 fps08:44
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towyncoops, i got disconnected08:45
towyncdarn it08:45
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towyncdoes anyone know if there is tweaks/sites that talk about how to get ubuntu to run more smoothly? thx =)08:45
binary2k2towync: how much more smoothly do you want it to run?08:46
tamacrackerDoes anyone know if kubuntu can recieve streaming music from radio stations?08:46
SupremeBeingtowync: (I advise Xubuntu if you Reaaaaaaaaaalllllllly want smooth)08:46
binary2k2(sarcastic question) :p08:46
SupremeBeingtamacracker: It can if you have the right player :)08:46
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: lol08:46
tamacrackerMay I get a recommendation?08:47
tamacrackerOne that may play AM stations... if possible?08:47
SupremeBeinglol08:47
SupremeBeingAM stations08:47
tamacrackerPlease :D08:47
SupremeBeingdo you have a hw tuner?08:47
SupremeBeingmost AM stations don't stream.08:47
tamacrackerYeah I listen to 610AM... good info on that station from 1am to 5am08:48
tamacrackerhw tuner?08:48
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SupremeBeinghardware08:49
lucahi everyone08:52
ThePubmorning08:53
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binary2k2f$K it's morning already?08:55
lucadoes anyone know how to make googleearth function with nvidia drivers?08:55
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No1VikingHello....08:59
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jongthey09:00
jongti think im gunna get kubuntu09:00
tamacrackerno I dont think I have a hardware tuber SupremeBeing09:00
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binary2k2jongt: yes, get kubuntu :p09:01
jongtbinary2k2, yea im excited09:01
jongtim on gentoo09:01
jongtnot doing well09:01
SupremeBeinghmm, how do you watch DivX movies on linux?09:01
SupremeBeingI installed the Divx, but Amarok and Kaffeine don't know that09:01
binary2k2kubuntu (as well as everythng except slackware) is easyer than gentoo09:02
No1VikingI'm trying to view a DVD that I mounted in /media/iso. When I try to play if with Kaffeine I get the followong messages: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd://]  etc09:02
jongtbinary2k2, is aigxl easy to get working with kubuntu09:03
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tamacrackerI haven't watched a DivX file on linux yet...09:04
tamacrackerim talkin bout listening to AM radio.09:04
binary2k2jongt: yeah, I have an intergrated intel 845G graphics card and AIGLS works great09:04
jongtbinary2k2, haha im on 945gm09:04
jongtbinary2k2, do you have to use compiz or beryl?09:04
binary2k2jongt: this PC it about 4-5 yesrs old, and I have beryl09:05
binary2k2beryl was far too EASY to install :p09:05
jongtsweet im gunna try to get that goin09:05
tamacrackerHaaahahahaha the Alex Jones Show!09:06
binary2k2jongt: edgy or dapper?09:06
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jongtbinary2k2, i dont even know what that means :(09:08
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jongtjongt, im real new and picked gentoo as first distro so im chillin here on gentoo with broken gnome waiting to re install09:09
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binary2k2jongt: I mean what version are you going to install 6.06 (dapper) or 6.10 (edgy)09:10
jongtoh09:10
SupremeBeinganybody know how to use Divx on linux09:10
jongtdapper probably09:10
binary2k2jongt: then lookmat this help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnDapper09:11
binary2k2(when you install)09:11
jongtbinary2k2, what are you on?09:11
binary2k2jongt: Edgy :D09:12
jongtbinary2k2, buggy?09:12
binary2k2jongt: I've found it very stable, but dapper is the LTS (Long Term Support) version09:13
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jongtbinary2k2, is edgy nice?09:13
binary2k2jongt: I have to say, edgy is sweet :D09:13
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jongtbut more support for dapper?09:14
binary2k2jongt: AIGLX is included in the xorg package by default on edgy09:14
ninoqualche italiano?09:15
binary2k2jongt: not more support, just longer term support09:15
binary2k2jongt: edgy is a fully supported official version09:15
ninoci sono italiani?09:15
jongtwhy would it only have 18 month support?09:15
binary2k2!it | nino09:15
ubotunino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:15
binary2k2jongt: because a new version is released every 6 months09:16
ninoho bisogno d'aiuto09:16
binary2k2i.e in 6 months Feisty Fawn will be out09:16
ninoho installato ora kubuntu e non so come scaricare i pacchetti09:17
ninoper favore09:17
binary2k2!it | nino09:17
ubotunino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:17
jongtso edgy doesn't have any problems?09:17
ninosalve09:17
binary2k2jongt: I use edgy as my main system, it's works great09:18
ninoqualcuno puo aiutarmi per favore?09:18
jongtbinary2k2, when you say support, it means what exactly09:18
binary2k2nino: italiano#kubuntu-it09:19
binary2k2nino: italiano #kubuntu-it09:19
binary2k2jongt: I mean security updates09:19
jongtmaybe ill get edgy then09:19
SupremeBeingI'm thinkin Gentoo now09:20
SupremeBeingKubuntu is pissin me off!09:20
SupremeBeinglol09:20
jongtlol09:20
lucadoes everyone know how to make googleearth function with nvidia drivers?09:20
binary2k2SupremeBeing: If yu want to compile everything then go with gentoo Lo09:21
binary2k2:p09:21
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: ewww09:21
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: nm09:21
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: XD09:21
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jongtbinary2k2, so really only advantage of dapper is longer term, but edgy is more up to date09:21
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: how can I play Divx videos? It's not working :/09:22
binary2k2jongt: that's exacty it09:22
jongtedgy it is09:22
jongtthat guide you showed me for aigxl, theres one for edgy?09:22
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binary2k2SupremeBeing: do you have the w32codecs pacjage?09:22
binary2k2jongt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy :D09:23
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: I tried to apt-get it but it didn't locate the package09:23
binary2k2that's the one I followed09:23
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binary2k2SupremeBeing: you need to follow the guide09:23
jongtbinary2k2, is there a guide online for install or is everything walk thru?09:23
binary2k2SupremeBeing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed509:24
SupremeBeingbinary2k2: thanks09:24
jongtbinary2k2, thanks aton for the help im going to sleep and d/loadin09:25
binary2k2jongt: for AIGLX follow that link, then for beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy09:25
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SupremeBeinggood luck09:27
binary2k2he's a strange one, he says "I want to convert to linux before I try open office" :p09:28
No1VikingDo I need to add any lib or driver to get kaffeine to work with DVD movies?09:28
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binary2k2No1Viking: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb909:29
binary2k2No1Viking: that wil tell you how09:29
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max_can someone recommend hardware for putting togther a box that is XGL capable?09:38
binary2k2max_: XGL is an old platform, you want AIGLX09:38
No1Vikingbinary2k2, is it better to install vlc when I want to look at a movie that comes from a mounted image?09:39
binary2k2No1Viking: I have found vlc to be good when you want to look at an movie that's UNmounted, anything will look at a mounted image09:40
max_binary2k2: thanks09:40
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binary2k2No1Viking: vlc will play a iso file, anything will play a mounted image (as it's just like inserting a CD/DVD in to the drive)09:41
No1Vikingbinary2k2, I did mount -o loop image /media/iso and I cant see the DVD in the right way.09:42
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binary2k2max_: even intel intergrated graphics works great with aiglx/beryl, I have that now09:43
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max_binary2k2: really?09:43
Zamberyep, it is09:43
Zamberif you have good hardware ;] 09:44
max_binary2k2: i doubt my box could pull it, 768(somthin like that) mb ram, intel i810chipset09:44
ZamberI saw it on 1Ghz 256RAM and some nice nvidia09:45
Zamberworked quite fine09:45
edgyHi, how can I show  a progress bar while I do cp in kubuntu?09:45
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binary2k2max_: that will be fine, I had 512MB RAM (before recent upgrade) with intel 845G intergrated chipset, AIGLX ran GREAT09:45
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max_binary2k2: someone just said edgy had it on it already and you didnt have to install it09:45
max_that true?09:45
binary2k2edgy: that requires use of dcop, too compilcated for mw09:46
binary2k2*me09:46
binary2k2max_: (I think it was me who said that) edgy has it already avaliable, you just enable it, it's easy tho09:47
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fdovingedgy: you can use 'mc'09:47
max_binary2k2: it was someone in the ubuntu room, how do you enable it?09:48
binary2k2fdoving is right, but if you want a X progress bar, you need dcop09:48
fdovingbinary2k2: doesn't help with dcop..09:48
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ajaycYou are all welcome to #ubuntu-cafe!09:49
binary2k2fdoving: for X progress bar with kdialog, you need dcop09:49
fdovingkdialog can be used to make the progress bar.. but then you'll need some output from 'cp'.. which you won't get with the regular 'cp'09:49
binary2k2max_: here's how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy09:49
max_thanks09:49
binary2k2fdoving, yes true09:49
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binary2k2max_: your walocme :D09:50
binary2k2edgy, you can make a psudo progress bar with kdialog and dcop, but i doubt that's what you want09:51
binary2k2ajayc: what's #ubuntu-cafe about?09:52
ajaycbinary2k2, its an unofficial chan for offtopic stuff humour and UBUNTU PARTY!!!09:52
ajayc:D09:52
binary2k2ajayc: like #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-offtopic ?09:53
heinkel_111is kubuntuforums.net down?09:53
Zamber!cafe09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cafe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
Zamberaww09:53
heinkel_111or is my net extremely slow09:53
fdovingheinkel_111: works for me.09:53
binary2k2ajayc: but better :p09:53
ajaycbinary2k2, yeah far better! they are a bit formal we are gonna have swearing there LOL and main is party!09:54
Jucatoheinkel_111: works here too09:54
heinkel_111i got it working09:54
heinkel_111too, but it loaded in like 5 minutes...09:54
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binary2k2ajayc: is there a kubuntu-cafe ? ir is it *buntu generic?09:55
ajaycits generic09:55
ajayc:)09:55
ajayceveryone is invited09:55
binary2k2ok,  I'll join then :p09:55
JackPhil7z -e foo.rar09:56
heinkel_111ok then, since it is sunday morning and you have nothing else to do, how about giving it a go troubleshooting my kde crashes: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11829.009:56
JackPhili got an Unsupported Method error09:56
heinkel_111;)09:56
binary2k2JackPhil: install "unrar"09:57
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binary2k2man that beryl "fire" effect is cool (or hot) :p09:59
xsacha:)09:59
xsachathis one binary2k2? http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/534/animationmn2.png (burn and beam up)10:00
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binary2k2xsacha: yeah, that one :p10:01
binary2k2rocks don'r it :p10:01
xsacha:)10:01
binary2k2i'm sure i meant "don't" not "don'r" :p10:02
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jimmy_au  lidi10:05
jimmy_je tu nkdo z ech10:05
jimmy_?10:05
binary2k2!cz | jimmy_10:06
ubotujimmy_: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.10:06
jimmy_dikes j jen tak10:06
binary2k2jimmy_ : #kubuntu-cz10:06
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ubuntu_mother fucker allll10:14
ubuntu_fuck you allllll10:15
ubuntu_suck my dick10:15
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binary2k2ubuntu_: you are ignored10:15
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max_binary2k2: i did what the guide said, but it screwed my xorg, so i had to reconfig10:16
binary2k2max_: what exactly happened?10:16
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ubuntu_you suck10:16
max_i would try to book and i would just get stuck at the balck screen with the flashing line at the top left10:16
ubuntu_ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine10:17
ubuntu_ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine10:17
ubuntu_ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine10:17
ubuntu_ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine10:17
ubuntu_ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine10:17
ubuntu_ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine10:17
ubuntu_ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine10:17
ubuntu_ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine10:17
ubuntu_you suck10:17
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ubuntu_you suck10:17
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max_someone kick ubuntu10:17
max_yay10:17
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binary2k2haha, ubuntu_ go kicked, there is a god, thanks fdoving  :D10:18
max_binary2k2:i would try to book and i would just get stuck at the balck screen with the flashing line at the top left10:18
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binary2k2max_: what graphics hardware do you have?10:19
max_i81010:19
binary2k2max_: can you pist you xorg.conf in pastebin please?10:20
ajaycmax_, what card you have man10:20
ajayci810?10:21
max_intel chipsety10:21
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jimmy_kick ass10:21
lucaplease i need immediate help! I have deleted my xorg.conf file by mistake!10:21
jimmy_kick ass ubuntu_10:21
max_binary2k2: i put my xorg back to what i use to be, so it dosnbt have the things i added to it from that tut....still want me to pastebin it?10:22
musyahow do you uninstall apps?10:22
spawn57luca: uh oh10:22
musyalike mysql10:22
max_musya: add remove programs or <sudo apt-get uninstall> in terminal10:22
fdovingmusya: use adept manager. kmenu -> system -> adept manager10:22
spawn57luca: are you noew to linux? and xorg.conf files?10:22
musyaah, ok10:22
musyathanks10:22
binary2k2max_: if you want I'll post my xorg.conf so you can check it10:22
binary2k2?10:22
lucaspawn57: not that new, but enough to make ocmplete dumb things it seems10:22
lucaspawn57: I deleted them using krusader, which means completely eliminated :(10:23
max_binary2k2: and you have AIGLX going?10:23
spawn57luca, alright then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and you shuold be able to make a new one10:23
binary2k2max_: yes10:23
max_yes please10:23
eloquence_can sum1 help with this: http://pastebin.ca/273984 >> installing ipw3945 for my laptop10:23
lucaspawn57: problem is, I am using nvidia drivers - and do not tell me to install xorg please! I tried some hours ago and destroyed my gui :(10:23
spawn57luca: it'll just ask you the usual questions, screen resolution, driver, modules, most of the defaults will be alright10:24
musyain terminal it says uninstall is an invalid operation10:24
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spawn57luca: I am too, how'd you destroy you gui using nvidia drivers, if it's installed then you should see an nvidia option there..10:24
fdovingmusya: 'sudo apt-get remove package'10:24
musyaettore__: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:25
musyai get that error10:25
spawn57luca: i could e-mail my xorg.conf, it should work for you fine..10:25
fdoving!adept crash fix | musya10:25
ubotumusya: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'10:25
lucaspawn57: I do not have my xorg drivers installed....10:25
lucaspawn57: hat would really help!10:25
spawn57alright10:25
lucajust one sec..10:26
fdovingmusya: you can first check that you've closed adept manager, you can't have that running while trying to uninstall things with apt-get from the commandline.10:26
lucalaervian@email.it10:26
spawn57my config has the proprietary nividia driver though ..10:26
musyaok ill retry10:26
lucathanks a lot!10:26
binary2k2max_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36222/ my xorg.conf10:26
lucaspawn57: mine too10:26
max_thanks binary10:26
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spawn57k one sec10:27
lucaspawn57: actually this all originated from the fact that some applications (e.g. googleearth) would say in terminal that xlib is broken and that gxl is not found...10:27
lucaspawn57: thanks!10:27
spawn57oh10:27
spawn57i havent' tried that on linux yet10:27
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ademan hey in the installer my friend had the mount point for another partition be /data he went into fstab and changed it to /media/data and rebooted but it's not mounting to /media/data10:27
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max_binary2k2: im going to edit mine, when im done will you take a look at it and make sure im correct?10:28
binary2k2max_: yeah10:28
max_binary2k2: thanks, just a seconf10:29
max_d10:29
spawn57anyone having trouble with kopete not saving the passwords to kwallet? evertyime I reboot I have to type in my kopete passwords again to logon ..10:29
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binary2k2spawn57: kopete works with kwallet for me (edgy)10:29
spawn57binary2k2: even after you reboot/restart X?10:29
musyaspawn57: i cant even get in to my kwallet10:29
musyawont allow me too10:30
spawn57luca: sent10:30
spawn57musya: werid..10:30
spawn57I can get into kwallet fine, add all the passwords I want from any app10:30
binary2k2spawn57: yeah, works fine10:30
spawn57but as soon as I restart, kwallet entries are gone..10:30
musyai know i have to hit cancel for everytime i logon becase it asks for the password but my root password wont work nor my password, nothing....10:31
lucaspawn57: thanks10:31
spawn57musya didja create a wallet?10:31
musyayea10:31
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musyafor some reason i allways get a delay between my computer and the monitor, could it be a GPU issue?10:32
musyalike the mouses, keyboards, software and etc get delayed when showing on the monitor, it gets annoying when trying to type10:32
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Darkyhi10:33
mrdarcyHi all , does any body know how to reinstall sound recorder app?10:33
musyamrdarcy: sudo apt-get install package-name10:34
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lucaspawn57: did you by chance received a full mail return mail? I have just cleared the mailbox....10:34
notechmusya: i'd check top to see if something is using an excessive amount of cpu10:35
lucaspawn57: sorry for this :(10:35
spawn57one sec phone10:35
max_binary2k2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36224/10:35
musyanotech: nothing is, the most usage i get is %4010:35
musyaits not really being used10:36
mrdarcymusya, the problem I having is that removing the package is not possible because it is a system req10:36
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notechmusya: was my only guess, the only time i see that is when i am doing something cpu intensive10:36
musyamrdarcy: i dont think you have to uninstall it cant you just update it? or reinstall it?10:37
musyanotech: i am not using a GPU just off of the motherboard10:37
spawn57luca: nope10:37
spawn57i got a myspace message though lol10:37
musyanotech: but i dont do anything other than browsing, coding, and messaging10:37
musyawell and compiling10:37
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musyai think its kubuntu itself i might switch to debian10:38
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notechmusya: what's using 40% cpu?10:38
musyaat times it does usually 0 or 210:38
musyaif i run something it will jump up10:38
notechseems excessive if you aren't doing much10:38
notechoh, ok10:38
max_i was running DSL the other day and it was 2% with a messenger anf firefox running10:39
mrdarcyb4 i had configure an etc file (forgottten already) but now can't open it( says " Audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the multimedia settings)10:39
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lucaspawn57: not getting it. :( Could you please resend?10:42
spawn57luca alright10:42
lucaspawn57 thanks10:42
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musyanotech: would you happen to know how kubuntu is differnt from debian?10:44
max_binary2k2: you in here?10:45
binary2k2max_: (sorry, I'm all over the place atm) this config worked for me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36225/10:46
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crimsunmusya: kubuntu is based on ubuntu which is based on debian.10:46
edgyHi, how can I show  a progress bar while I do cp in kubuntu?10:48
musyacrimsun: well i know that much but i ment in performance?10:48
eloquence_Can somebody help with a problem installing ipw3945: http://pastebin.ca/273986 .. Here's some other info that might help http://pastebin.ca/273986 > http://pastebin.ca/27399210:48
crimsunmusya: there's no quantifiable way for me to tell you, so you're better off comparing them yourself.10:48
binary2k2edgy: use Konqueror if you want a progess bar10:48
max_binary2k2: well i havent tried it this second time10:49
max_ctrl + alt + backspace restarts X corrent?10:49
max_correct*10:49
spawn57luca: sent again, a few mins ago already10:49
spawn57max: yeah10:49
lucaspawn57: ****** provider, it does not receive it10:50
binary2k2max_: yeah, but i'd logout first, and choose "restart the X server" from the menu (ar ctrl-alt-backspace from kde login screen)10:50
spawn57i'm sending from a yahoo account10:50
spawn57might be in your junk mail?10:50
lucaspawn57 could you try laervian@yahoo.it ?10:51
max_binary2k2: ok, bac ina seconf10:51
max_d10:51
spawn57yeap sure10:51
lucaluckily I own more than one box....10:51
lucaspawn57 thanks!10:51
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gsuvegre10:51
gsuveganyone know kickoff menu for edgy ?10:51
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max_binary2k2: it didnt crash on me, thats good..what do i have to do now?10:53
spawn57luca: sent again hehe10:53
lucaspawn57 thanks now it arrived!10:53
spawn57alright10:53
spawn57g'luck man10:53
binary2k2max_: install beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl10:54
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lucaspawn57: I am reconfiguring nvidia-glx10:56
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edgybinary2k2: it's a remote server and konqueror is not installed10:56
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lucaspawn57 then I am going to restart the x server - let's hope!10:56
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binary2k2edgy: then I don't know (sorry)10:57
edgybinary2k2: no problem. thx anyway10:57
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xenolhey i am back :D10:58
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mhbhi11:00
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mhbit's kinda weird, but I'm not able to install Edgy :o) I get to the phase 5/6, I want to select another partition as root and when I do and click on Next the "no root partition" info appears11:02
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max_binary2k2: thank you!11:03
max_binary2k2: it finnally works11:04
binary2k2max_:  YAY, beryl ROCKS!!!! :p11:04
max_binary2k2: and its only a tad bit sluggish, which it wont be once i get my new graphics card11:04
max_can you change colors? not to fond of this red11:04
binary2k2max_: yeah, install emerald-themes and you gar loads of choices11:05
xenol!retricted format11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about retricted format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
xenol!restricted formats11:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:05
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max_thanks so muchn11:06
max_i hope you have a very merry x-mas11:06
binary2k2max_: no problam, glad you got the coolnes of beryl (and merry christmas to you too :D )11:06
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Darkygermans here?11:07
chimaeratey're in #kubuntu-de11:07
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Darkyok thx11:07
chimaerawell, on the other hand, i'm here, but anyways, you get the point ^^11:07
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chimaeraberyl looks very nice, but using txgl with the proprietary ati-driver is kind of slow.11:09
chimaeras/txgl/xgl/11:09
xenol!libxine-extracodecs11:10
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB11:10
xenolwhere from could i DL libxine-extracodecs plz?11:10
binary2k2chimaera: yeah, xgl is slow, xigls is great (don't want to rubb it in tho)11:10
chimaerayiu mean aiglx?11:10
mhbxenol: multiverse repository11:10
binary2k2chimaera: yes :p11:11
xenol!multiverse repository11:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multiverse repository - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:11
binary2k2chimaera: long night :p11:11
mhb!multiverse11:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:11
xenol!repository11:11
chimaerabinary2k2: hehe, i might using xorg's ati-driver, supports aiglx.11:11
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xenolmhb plz can u tell me to which repository i must write "multiuniverse"?11:12
chimaeraits 'multiverse'11:13
binary2k2chimaera: I don't actually know if ati has aiglx support, it they do then use it :p I have intel intergrated graphics aiglx works great (how many times have I said that)11:13
xenolmultiverse* to all my repositories?11:13
max__binary2k2: where do i turn on Desktop Cube, im under that setting and it is checked, but no cube..11:13
chimaerabinary2k2: what crad do you have? nvidia?11:14
binary2k2chimaera: intel 845G intergrated11:14
chimaerabinary2k2: hehe11:14
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binary2k2max__: have you tried (crtl-alt-left click) ?11:15
max__no i havent *trys*11:15
binary2k2chimaera: aiglx works graet with it, it rocks :p11:15
binary2k2*great11:16
xenolplz i must write multiverse to all repositories?11:16
max__binary2k2: do it where? desktop?11:16
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binary2k2max__: anywhere should work11:16
max__just ctrl+alt+left click?11:16
mhbxenol: edit /etc/apt/sources.list11:16
binary2k2max__: ctrl-alt-left click (and drag)11:17
buzhow's support for nforce 430 in edgy?11:17
xenolmhb i am doing ig through adept manager it is same aint it?11:17
max__can you not keep it like the cube?11:17
max__or is that just for swirtching11:17
mhbxenol: yes ... and write "multiverse" behind "main restricted"11:17
binary2k2max__: it's just for switching11:18
max__ok11:18
mhbxenol: there is a line with "main restricted" ... edit that field and write "universe multiverse" in it11:18
max__thanks again!11:18
binary2k2max__: it's still cook tho :p11:18
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max__very!11:18
max__before this i used 3ddesktop plus some translucency11:18
max__this is alot better11:18
max__haha11:18
binary2k2max__: you're  welcome, any more help you need, just ask :D11:18
max__have a good night binary11:18
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xenolmhb, on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu it says to write behind universe11:26
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binary2k2xenol: just add universe (and/or multiverse) to the end of the line11:27
xenolbinary2k2 wit text main resticted?11:27
binary2k2xenol: yes, that will work fine11:27
xenolbinary2k2 for deb http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted i should change it to deb http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse?11:29
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binary2k2xenol: yes11:31
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mathiouzzhi all :)11:36
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xenolbinary2k2 i also have some disabled repositories should i enable em?11:38
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binary2k2xenol: depends what they are11:39
max__binary2k2: sorry to be a bother, how do you set controls for zoom, i dont understand all the diffrent checkboxes, do i not enter it into "key name"?11:39
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binary2k2max__: it will be in "Numeric Values"11:40
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max__thoes are just values though11:41
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hyper_chwhat is a dns suffix?11:42
binary2k2max__: do you want the "Keyboard" or "mouse" tabs then?11:43
max__what? im confused11:43
binary2k2max__: are you in the "beryl Settings" menu?11:44
max__yes11:45
binary2k2max__: what exactly do you want to change?11:45
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max__i just need to assign a control to zoom11:45
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binary2k2max__: you mean a keyboard sequence or mounse button?11:46
max__mouse11:47
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binary2k2max__: the default is "Super-mouse4" to zoop, Super is win key and mouse4 it scroll up11:48
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max__i dont have a win key\11:49
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binary2k2max__: go to "Input enabled Zoom" in the beryl settings manager, click on the "mouse" tab, and change it11:50
max__what are some of the other boxes?11:51
max__like mod?11:51
max__and hyper11:51
max__and meta11:51
binary2k2max__: that's setup in xorg.conf11:51
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ReTyPei have ubuntu 6.10, how do i install latest kde ?11:51
binary2k2max__: meta is normalt "Alt Gr"11:51
JucatoReTyPe: it is the latest already11:52
max__gr?11:52
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ReTyPeJucato; i have gnome on ubuntu11:52
binary2k2max__: on my keyboard it's the right alt ket"11:52
Jucatoah that11:52
max__oh ok11:52
max__ill use that11:52
nibletshow can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok?11:52
JucatoReTyPe: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde11:53
binary2k2ReTyPe: add "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main" to your source.list11:53
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max__one more question11:53
max__can you not driag somthing across the cube like xgl11:53
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binary2k2yeah, you should just be able to drag to the edge of the screen and it'll flip  (works for me)11:54
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nibletsis that Beryl?11:55
ReTyPebinary2k2: in synaptic ?11:55
AzzcoHello, is there anyone here that got konference?11:55
binary2k2ReTyPe: yeah, or just edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor (as root/sudo)11:56
ReTyPeW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508811:56
binary2k2ReTyPe: gpg --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D508811:56
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binary2k2ReTyPe: then: gpg --export -a DD4D5088|sudo apt-key add -11:57
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ReTyPei had to use --keyserver on first command11:58
nibletshow can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok? I am having trouble with Xine with some mp3s not decoding properly. It is the current version of Xine as well11:58
Stimhi  i have got a problem with my GNU/Linux Kubuntu. I don't see the directory / , it is not visible.  I see only my directory Home, maybe why i have install from live cd language italian? sorry for my language, i don't speak well the english11:58
binary2k2ReTyPe: ok, that's because you havem'y set it up to use keyserver.ubuntu.com11:59
noiesmo!hidden | stim11:59
ubotustim: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles11:59
ReTyPeso now the source for kde is added, but how do i start the installation of kde now ?11:59
Stimthanks noiesmo and ubuto11:59
Stim:)12:00
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Stimnow i understand12:00
binary2k2good bot ubotu :p12:00
Zamber;P12:00
AzzcoI still would like to get webcam working in kopete with Konference. Got a problem during make could someone try to help me?12:00
binary2k2!botsnack12:00
ubotuYum!12:00
Zamber!swiftfox12:01
JucatoReTyPe: did you check the link I gave you?12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
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Azzco!kopete12:01
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB12:01
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binary2k2Azzco: are you tring to compile kopete?12:02
ninoper kubuntu in italiano?12:02
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Azzcobinary2k2: no just konference12:02
ninocio la chat12:02
binary2k2!it | nino12:02
ubotunino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:02
StimDear friends now i have go becouse it's late. Bye and thanks from Italy12:03
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binary2k2Azzco: what's the error you're getting?12:03
nibletshow can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok? I am having trouble with Xine with some mp3s not decoding properly. It is the current version of Xine as well12:04
Azzcobinary2k2: It's looong, but a freind of mine said that it would most likely have something to do with Qt.12:04
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AzzcoSo is there anything special about Qt i Edgy that might have screwed something up?12:05
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binary2k2Azzco: use pastebin to post the error12:05
binary2k2!pastebin12:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:05
rootbinary2k2: i restarted, and when i went to start up it hung at the balck screen with white line on it again...i had to login under recovery mode and do start x in a terminal (this is max)12:06
backtickhi all.. how to I disable the cups service?12:06
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Azzcohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36234/ binary2k2, I skipped a few lines but I think that the most essential is there12:07
binary2k2root: cleck /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.1.log for errors12:08
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mathiouzzhi all12:09
nibletsany ideas anyone?12:09
mathiouzzhave someone got this error when burning dvd or someone help me ?12:09
mathiouzzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36235/12:10
aleksanteriwell, hi again ;)12:10
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mathiouzzhi aleksanteri :P12:10
mathiouzzi upgraded growisofs12:10
mathiouzzstill have the same problem12:10
aleksanterihmmm12:10
aleksanteribut now it makes progression12:10
mathiouzzno i only pasted last time the end of the debug msg12:11
mathiouzznow i've put the entire one12:11
aleksanteriaha12:11
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aleksanteriyou should have put that up before12:11
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aleksanterinow i think it's the ISO12:11
mathiouzzsrry12:11
rootbinary2k2: it says (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23 alot12:11
mathiouzzwhy ?12:11
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aleksanteribecause it makes that progression but a part is corrupted so it crashes12:12
Azzcobinary2k2: I couldn't find anything suspicius...12:12
binary2k2root: I get that too, X still starts12:12
mathiouzzhmm ok then i'm gonna try to burn a linux distro dvd12:12
mathiouzzthen we'll see if it's the iso or not12:12
aleksanterior12:12
aleksanteriredownload the iso12:12
mathiouzzit's a backup of one of my hdd12:12
aleksanteripick another iso download there12:12
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binary2k2Azzco: I have no idea, sorry12:13
aleksanterithen i think you should download a new one12:13
mathiouzzok12:13
mathiouzzthanks for info aleksanteri12:13
rootbinary2k2: thats the only error12:13
AzzcoTHX for the help anyways binary2k2 :)12:13
aleksanteriyou're welcome12:13
mathiouzzgtg guys12:13
mathiouzzhave a nice week end :)12:13
mathiouzzcya :)12:13
aleksanterisame for you too12:13
aleksanteribye12:13
binary2k2root: did you check Xorg.1.log ?12:14
mathiouzzand thanks 4 your help aleksanteri12:14
aleksanteriyeah you're welcome12:14
mathiouzz;)12:14
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rootbinary2k2: thats the only xorg log there is12:14
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binary2k2root: did X start with  startx ?12:15
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rootyes12:16
rootand it said i didnt have permission12:16
rootso i changed to root to startx12:16
binary2k2root: that's normal for a normal user not to have permission12:17
rootive never gotten that before12:17
rootits always let me startx as user12:17
binary2k2root: try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"12:17
binary2k2root: I've always got that permission error12:18
rootok, be right back12:18
binary2k2ok12:18
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rootbinary2k2: what did that do?12:19
rootit stopped and started kdm12:20
rootshould i try to restart now?12:20
binary2k2yeah, do ypu can login now12:20
rootok12:21
binary2k2ypu should be ablr to login as normal12:21
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gabberhi....12:27
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gabberhow are you?12:27
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gabberblow me12:33
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ZeuGiRDoRI've deleted accidentally "Multimedia" section of K Menu, how can I restore it?12:35
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fildo*gone(dreamin of a special pair of boobz)12:42
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nibletshow can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok? I am having trouble with Xine with some mp3s not decoding properly. It is the current version of Xine as well12:46
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gheniza12246channel#azzurra12:48
_kuja_I'm running edgy right now, but it seems that .... the other engines have disappeared from the repos?12:48
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onehow to add a script at boot startup?12:50
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eilkerhi to all, what is the equivalent of   xp's "msconfig" command in kubuntu ?12:52
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_kuja_one: put it in the folder /etc/init.d/ and don't forget to chmod +x it. Then, run update-rc.d scriptname defaults12:55
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ZeuGiRDoRhow can i sort kmenu alphabetically?12:55
_kuja_Probably have to do that manually12:56
ZeuGiRDoR!!!12:56
one_kuja_: and how could I change the order of execution? I need run it before of starting LVM12:56
ZeuGiRDoR_kuja_: manually??? all the entries?12:57
_kuja_ZeuGiRDoR: crazy, I know.12:57
_kuja_one: I forget how that would work exactly ... I'll take a look at another couple of scripts to figure it out12:58
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_kuja_one: I do believe it involves running it in a certain runlevel though12:59
_kuja_probably 0?12:59
_kuja_or S12:59
oneok, thanks _kuja_12:59
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ricaneliteDoes anyone here run MacOnLinux? If so please let me know01:00
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hyper_chhiho, I got a problem with the 2.6.19-7 kernel... when I use it for boot in recovery mode (normal mode does not work), I get the following error messages:01:06
hyper_chAlert! /dev/hda6 does not exist01:06
hyper_chDropping do shell01:06
hyper_chand then:  Can't access tty; job control turned off01:06
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hyper_chhowever when I use the 2.6.17-x kernel boot works fine01:06
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brkhi01:08
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brki need help with ffmpg01:08
brkhow can i make mpg video ?01:08
brk./ffmpeg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 1000 -r 10 -g 300 -vd x11:0,0 -s 1024x768 video.avi01:09
brkthid 4 avi...01:09
brk*this01:09
brkfor mpeg or mpg ??01:09
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ricaneliteanyone here knows or uses Mac On Linux?01:10
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brkciao gheniza1224601:11
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brkciao ubuntu01:11
brkmiii qualche italiano che usa ffmpg ????01:11
innjehhi guys!, i have a prob with ATI drivers on kubuntu edgy. If i run fglrx as root i get output like this01:11
willy_Re01:11
innjehdisplay: :0.0  screen: 001:12
innjehOpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.01:12
innjehOpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1300 Series Generic01:12
innjehOpenGL version string: 2.0.6065 (8.29.6)01:12
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innjehotherwise i get mesa driver output01:12
innjeh:s01:12
innjehwhy is that ?01:12
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Bubba_GumpKDE update today ?01:13
brkmiii qualche italiano che usa ffmpg ????01:13
brkmiii qualche italiano che usa ffmpg ????01:13
brk*ffmpeg01:13
_kuja_Hm, I saw some updates yesterday ... just a repackaging though, nothing new01:14
_kuja_maybe some patches if we're lucky01:14
brk_kuja_:  can u help me plz ? :((01:14
Bubba_Gump:D01:14
_kuja_brk? Probably01:14
brk:)01:14
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brku know ffmpeg??01:14
_kuja_What with?01:14
brkhow can i make mpg video ?01:15
brki've created an avi file but in windows doen't work01:15
_kuja_make an mpg video from?01:15
_kuja_brk, does that avi file work in linux?01:15
brkyep01:16
brki do that01:16
ricaneliteanyone here use Mac On Linux?01:16
brk./ffmpeg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 1000 -r 10 -g 300 -vd x11:0,0 -s 1024x768 video.avi01:16
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_kuja_If it doesn't work in windows, then you don't have the appropriate codec installed in windows.01:16
brkbut i have latest update...01:16
brkand klcodec pack01:16
_kuja_Windows comes with very, very few codecs.01:16
brk.......01:16
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_kuja_mpeg4 I presume? try to play it back with quicktime in windows, it'd probably work.01:17
brkok but i can't make videos in mpeg ?01:17
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_kuja_What do you m ean?01:17
brkthe output is video.mpg01:18
ajopaul_how to disable the dosfsck checks everytime on a bootup?01:18
ajopaul_its slows down boot up!01:19
brktnx _kuja_01:19
brk:)01:19
_kuja_brk, You get it working in win?01:20
brkno...but i searching for the codecs01:20
Zamber!dosfsck01:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dosfsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:20
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_kuja_brk, when I used windows (a couple years ago) I used the tsunami codec/filter pack. It wasn't bad.01:21
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brk:)01:21
brkk01:21
ReTyPecan i start a gnome as second X ?01:21
aleksanteri_kuja_: you use kvirc?01:21
chimaeraReTyPe: sure01:21
ReTyPechimaera: how ?01:22
brkok _kuja_ i about 2 download tsunami codecs :P01:22
_kuja_aleksanteri, oddly enough, I'm one of the few crazy/lazy enough to use Kopete :D01:22
brk*i'm01:22
chimaeraReTyPe: kde-menu -> switch user -> start new session01:22
junkyplz someone can help me plz??? i can play action cube01:23
junkywhen i execute actioncube.sh in console i have en error an 3 steps01:23
junkyi do the steps but nothing01:23
junkythe game dont run01:23
ReTyPechimaera: thx fot the tip, now i am on kde and gnome at the same time01:25
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Zamberjunky calm down01:25
Zamberand give some more tips01:25
Zamberpaste into phpfi.com the code that it says01:26
B-Minusdoes anyone know where i can find the win32codecs as a .deb file ?01:26
junkyphpfi.com?01:26
Zamberyeas01:26
Zamberwww.phpfi.com01:26
Zamberit's simple as hell01:26
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ZeuGiRDoRB-Minus: for edgy?01:27
B-MinusZeuGiRDoR: yes01:27
junkyoks01:28
junkyZamber: i do it01:28
Zamberand remember to send the link here01:28
ZeuGiRDoRB-Minus: here you are: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb01:28
chimaeraReTyPe: you're welcome.01:29
junkyhttp://phpfi.com/18330501:29
B-MinusZeuGiRDoR: tnx01:29
aspediaI want to monitor mysql service on a remote machine with nagios. Firewall is blocking 3306, so I want to create a persistent tunnel with ssh. What Have I to do to get this running?01:30
aspediaIs there anywhere a howto?01:30
Zamberjumky what type of graphic card do you have?01:30
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junkynvida 780001:31
junkyxfx01:31
Zambertype glxinfo and look if the direct rendering: in the 3rd line is Yes01:31
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xenolplz where can i find abitilz to edit gtub.lst though system settings,01:32
junkyhttp://phpfi.com/18330901:33
junkyhere are all the glzinfo01:33
junkyi dont see rendering...01:33
junkyOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect01:33
Zamberhow long do you have kubuntu?01:34
Zamberand how many 3d games did you run till now01:34
xenolwhere can i edit GRUB boot conf plz anyone01:34
junkyany 3d game01:35
junkyand kubuntu one day :)01:35
junkyim am totally new01:35
junkyi have win with games... but i like to use linux....01:35
Zamberxenol /boot/grub/menu.lst01:35
xenolzamber and somehow though system?01:36
Zamberjunky it looks like you have not configured your graphic card01:36
Zamberxenol run sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst01:36
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Zamberxenol google for grub configurating01:36
junky....01:37
Zamberit's simple01:37
junkyang what i have to do01:37
Zamberjunky you have to get DRI working ;)01:37
xenolok01:37
ZamberDirect Rendering Infrastrusture01:37
junkyxenol: use supergrub is a good bootable program01:37
junky...01:37
junkyoks...01:37
junkyany tutorial or somthing similar???01:37
junkyim totally new..01:37
Zamberjunky http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250070 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=48008501:38
Zamber!dri01:38
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.01:38
Zamber!nvidia01:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:38
Zamber;)01:38
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junkyi have to install?01:38
Zamberyep01:38
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Zamberit's quite simple01:38
junkyoks i have the drivers but not installed01:38
junky...01:38
Zamberwait01:39
Zamberdon not determine that in the first plkace01:39
Zambereven if you have it01:39
Zamberreinstall it as it is in the howto01:39
junkyNVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8776-pkg2.run01:39
junkybut not installed01:39
junkyi only download it01:39
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junkyi have this01:40
Zamberlook here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:40
xenol!paste01:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:40
Zamberjunky https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:41
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eilker!autostart01:41
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup01:41
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happytigerHi ppl I am having trouble with my keyboard. When I run normal x session on kubuntu 6.10 all is fine, but when I run xgl session running on display :1 whereas regular xsession runs on display :0, then my I cant write the "add" sign anymore despite the fact I have local danish letters working perfectly.01:42
Zamberjunky that last link is a very nice howto, wish I had found one like this when I was installing mine ati xD01:42
happytigerSo how do I speicy which keyboard layout is to be used for display :1?01:43
junkyoks...01:44
junkybut what i have? linux-image-amd64-generic or k8 or xeon???01:45
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Zamberjunky look at your motherboard or run sysinfo01:46
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junkysysinfo dont run01:46
Zamberif you have'nt got sysinfo01:46
Zamberyeah :p01:46
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Zamberrun it form the K menu01:47
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Jucatokinfocenter01:48
junkyi dont see it01:48
Zamberso run: sudo apt-get install sysinfo01:48
happytigerAlso in kde systemmenu I cant choose any keyboard layouts01:49
Jucatodoesn't KInfoCenter already do something like that?01:49
aleksanterihey anyone know what's the command to list all programs avaivable via apt-get?01:49
junkyoks thx01:49
willy_je voudrais bien avoir les configuration d'installation de ma Kubuntu, j'ai modifier quelque truc mais je voudrais revenire  avant, a la place de formater et rinstaller, on pourraisfaire comment?01:50
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Jucato!fr | willy_01:51
ubotuwilly_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:51
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willy_ok01:53
Zamberaleksanteri you can try /sudo apt-cache search phrase/ for searching a certain package01:54
Zamberfor listing all packages use adept or synaptic01:55
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mrdarcyhi All01:55
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aleksanteriok01:55
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mrdarcydoes anybody know how to "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings"01:55
mrdarcyfor sound recorder01:56
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mrdarcyi mean how to solve this error from sound recorder "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings."01:56
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eilkerResolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 001:58
eilkerwhy do i have gconf ?? this is kde, i dont have gnome01:58
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Zamber!xgl02:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:03
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junkylol02:03
junkyi do02:03
junkythat but actioncube say the same02:03
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junkyyour platform does not have a pre-compiled cube client02:04
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ganymed_hi02:05
ganymed_edgy is considered stable, is it?02:05
Zamberjunky try googling for this problem02:05
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junkyoks...02:06
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Zamber!JAMin02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about JAMin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
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eilkerare all start-up scripts for services  in   /etc/init.d/   ??02:16
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aedufHallo Leute, ich bin seit 3 Stunden Glcklicher Kubuntuuser. Nach etlichen Gentoo Installationen war die kubuntu installation purer Luxus; und alles Funktioniert. Nur mchte ich in der Kontrollleiste rechts unten einen Ausschaltknopf hinplatzieren. ist das irgendwie mglich?02:18
Lynoure!de02:19
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:19
delightaeduf kubuntu-de02:19
ganymed_when i click on a symbol for a removable drive on my desktop all konqueror is opened, but the drive isn't mounted. i have to explicitely click on mount drive. why is this so?02:19
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tmkhi02:20
tmkich installiere grade kubuntu auf ubuntu02:21
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Lynoureaeduf: But if you understand English, we can of course try to help you here. (but so far I only understood 3 hours, luxury and that all works...)02:21
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tmkwo kann ich KDE als Standard-Desktop einstellen?02:21
junkyin konsole what i have to put to se volumen of souds?02:21
tmkaeduf: das ist relativ einfach02:21
junky...mixer02:21
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tmkaeduf: rchte Maustaste - kontextmen02:22
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tmkaeduf: da kannst du diverse Knpfe ergnzen02:22
Jucato!de02:22
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:22
junkyplz02:22
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tmkjunky: sorry02:22
ganymed_once again, in case sb missed it :)02:22
ganymed_when i click on a symbol for a removable drive on my desktop all konqueror is opened, but the drive isn't mounted. i have to explicitely click on mount drive. why is this so?02:22
junkywhat i have to put in konsole to see volumen02:23
eilkertmk: kannst du spreche english ?02:23
junky(...)mixer...02:23
junkyi dont remember02:23
aedufDanke. aber delight hat mir alles  schon erklrt.02:23
ganymed_used to be different in dapper02:23
junkysusamixer?02:23
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junkynops02:23
aedufpeinlich, peinlich (-:02:23
tmki just installed ubuntu and want to switch to Kubuntu - how can I configure kdm to start kde by default?02:23
junkyit isnt susa mixer02:23
ganymed_tmk: just install kubuntu-desktop02:24
xenol!GRUB splashscreens02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about GRUB splashscreens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:24
tmkganymed_: thx02:24
xenolGRUB02:24
xenol!GRUB02:24
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:24
eilkertmk: isnt it from login screen ?02:24
xenolplz can anyone gimme some link to gallery with kubuntu splashscreens?02:25
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tmkeilker: i'm just downloading 400 MB KDE packages, I just wanted to prepare02:25
ganymed_concerning grub: when i put a kernel file in /boot and edit menu.lst and do grub-install... grub tells me at boot-up "file cannot be found." why?02:25
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ganymed_come on, two questions and no answers...?02:26
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cathalsince only recently all video files while playing in kaffeine, the picture slows down when i go to full-screen mode, any ideas?02:27
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eilkertmk: i am not sure but u gonna have a login screen, and u should able to choose from that screen02:28
apokryphosganymed_: non-kde related questions are often better asked in #ubuntu02:28
tmkeilker: thx, I'll try02:28
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_alex_"E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4" what's wrong?02:29
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apokryphos!info gcc-3.402:30
ubotugcc-3.4: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 4524 kB02:30
apokryphosyou don't have the proper repositories enabled, somehow02:30
apokryphos_alex_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic02:30
_alex_ok thanks02:30
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TheGateKeeper_alex_, what does this return: dpkg -l | grep gcc ?02:31
mc__TheGateKeeper: TIAS02:32
ganymed_ok, then my first again02:32
ganymed_when i click on a symbol for a removable drive on my desktop all konqueror is opened, but the drive isn't mounted. i have to explicitely click on mount drive. why is this so?02:32
_alex_The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)02:32
_alex_ii  gcc-4.0-base                           4.0.3-1ubuntu502:32
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ganymed_and my drives are not shown on the desktop anymore (i have set the mount points manually)02:33
ganymed_god, i miss dapper02:33
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eilkerwhich one is better kdesu konqueror or sudo konqueror ? in console02:34
Jucatoeilker: kdesu02:34
Jucato!kdesu | eilker02:34
ubotueilker: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo02:34
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ganymed_a root login would be the best... but that is only my opinion obviously02:35
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Jucatoganymed_: Kubuntu discourages enabling the root account or a graphical root login02:35
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ganymed_i know this. and it is... well... senseless. but let's not get into this discussion. the bad thing about ubuntu is that enabling the root account just messes up the system02:36
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eilkerjucato: i have /etc/init.d/no-ip   , i open konqueror with root rights, but it still doesnt allow me to delete no-ip02:38
eilkerjucato: i open with "kdesu konqueror"02:39
ganymed_ok, another question: how do i use knetworkmanager. i used to start it and it did find networks via iwlist etc. now it just doesn't find anything. does anybody know why?02:39
ganymed_NetworkManager is running02:39
Jucatoeilker: that should work... if it doesn't, try "sudo rm /etc/init.d/no-ip" (if it's a file) or go to /etc/init.d then "sudo rm no-ip" to be safer. just take note that once deleted in the command line, it's really gone. not trash bin02:40
eilkerjucato: ohh i cant take that risk, may be system crashs, it is for dynamic dns...02:41
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_alex_cc02:42
junkyhello02:42
junkywhy i cant run actioncube????02:43
junkyhttp://phpfi.com/183329 here my problem...02:44
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junkyplz02:45
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TheGateKeeperjunky, did you notice the instructions at the top02:46
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TheGateKeeper?02:46
rolandohola02:46
junky?02:46
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rolandoi have a question about adept02:46
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junkywhat instuctions?02:47
rolandowhen im installing something that needs that i agree with some license, how can i accept when using adept?02:47
ganymed_what do i have to do to use knetworkmanager? eth1 is set to auto, NetworkManager is running. but no networks visible. so what is wrong?02:47
Jucatorolando: unless you're trying to install Java, Flash, or VMWare Player, you usually just press Tab and/or the cursor keys to select the OK/Accept button the press Enter02:47
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TheGateKeeperjunky, Please follow the following steps....   <--- ring any bells?02:48
rolandoJucato: im trying to instal xfce02:48
Jucato:O02:48
rolandoJucato: so there is no wat to accept?02:48
junkyyes i do02:48
junkybut nothing02:48
Jucatowhy would there be a license agreement for xfce? :O02:48
junkyi install the nvidia drivers to02:48
rolandoJucato: its not a license agreement is something else02:49
Jucatois it asking you for something that needs to be answered by Y/N ?02:49
rolandoJucato: but, it worked with tab, thanx :)02:49
Jucatowell you said it was a license...02:49
rolandoi knkow, it happened with java02:49
rolandoand others02:49
rolandoand i had to go with apt-get02:50
TheGateKeeperrolando, use synaptic02:50
rolandosince adept is all about mouse it should be possible to accept with mouse...02:50
rolandoTheGateKeeper: aint adept == synaptic?02:50
TheGateKeeperrolando, it gives you access to a terminal window to agree to stuff02:51
JucatoSynaptic has some features that Adept doesn't have02:51
Jucatolike the ability to accept those licenses02:51
rolandoTheGateKeeper: thanx, ill try it next time02:51
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rolandothat is someting very nice02:51
TheGateKeepersynaptic == gui installer, adept == pathetic attempt at gui installer02:51
rolandobut since adept is what comes with kubuntu is the one im using02:51
JucatoTheGateKeeper: but then again, Synaptic == older == more people to work on it == more time to work on it02:52
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rolandook, so shoud i switch to synaptic?02:52
TheGateKeeperJucato, adept == reinventing the wheel for sod all benifit02:52
rolandoor adept will be the standard02:52
junkyi cant run open arena or action cube...02:52
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junkyone say an error and the other say no such file or directory02:53
junkyand it is good de archive and the directori02:53
JucatoTheGateKeeper: then again Synaptic doesn't use Qt or KDE libs, meaning it's not well integrated into the system02:53
Jucatorolando: Adept won't be the standard package manager for KDE. last I heard, KDE practically left it to the distributors to choose/make their own02:54
TheGateKeeperJucato, pzeh, who cares, it works02:54
Jucatothe command line works, too. :)02:54
rolandobut i dont knkow how to look for packages with command line02:54
TheGateKeeperJucato, if you are that worried about that you port it to qt then improve it02:55
rolandono easy search02:55
JucatoTheGateKeeper: I'm not that worried. whatever gave you the idea that I was02:55
rolandothanx both, gonna try xfce02:55
TheGateKeeperJucato, the minute you started trying to have an arguement about might have been a bit of a give away lol02:56
JucatoI wasn't even trying to have an argument02:56
Jucatolast I checked, I was merely laying out the facts. it's up to you to interpret whether I was arguing or not02:57
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Jucato(I wasn't, anyway)02:58
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junkywhy open arena and sauerbraten say the same error??02:58
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junkyhttp://phpfi.com/18333802:59
junkythis put02:59
junkyand i do this make install, but it says many errors02:59
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junkyplz03:01
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nuxiljunky, you need Sauerbraten client.03:01
junkyyes i have it03:01
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nuxil1) Ensure you have the SDL, SDL-image, SDL-mixer, and OpenGL libraries installed.03:02
junkyand also action cube client03:02
junky?03:02
junkywhat is?03:02
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xenolplz can someone tell me how can i change GRUB splahscreen?03:02
nuxilxenol, #grub03:03
TheGateKeeper!grub03:03
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:03
os2macanyone got an idea about when Kubuntu is going to incorperate 2.6.19X03:03
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MidMarkHi, I've a problem with a pci modem with conexant chip, I have visited www.linuxant.com but there in o precompiled module for hcf and the installer fails to compile (I have buid essential) because a conflicts with other alsa module03:03
MidMarksomeone can help me?03:03
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MidMarkos2mac: with feisty, v7.0403:04
os2macso what is feisty herd 1? rc release?03:05
xenol!paste03:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:05
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MidMarkos2mac: no a very alpha release03:06
MidMarkfeisty will be out in april03:06
os2macahhhh03:06
os2macdammit.03:06
os2macthat is the only thing keeping me from using my nic.03:06
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MidMarkos2mac: why you should use .19?03:08
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os2maccause I really do not want to use ndiswrapper...03:08
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os2macI would like it to work out of the box.03:08
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os2macand once they get .19 integrated DELL Nic's will be supported out of the box....03:09
os2macthe version of BCM43xx that is installed with .17 doesn't work with Dell nic's03:09
MidMarklinux is the OS that change kernel more faster than other OSes03:11
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MidMarkWindows stayed for 5 years with the same kernel03:11
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os2macthat may be true but Kubuntu doesn't03:11
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xwolf-where can i get man pages for C functions?03:11
Jucato!manpages-dev | xwolf-03:12
ubotumanpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.34-1 (edgy), package size 1183 kB, installed size 2908 kB03:12
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MidMarkkubuntu change kernel every 6 months03:12
paul1975hi03:13
paul1975i am from south africa03:13
aleksanteri!xorg03:13
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:13
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xwolf-thank you Jucato :)03:14
Jucato:)03:14
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MidMarkos2mac: make a bugreport in launchpad to backport bcm drivers from .1903:15
MidMarksearch first, I've seen something already03:15
junkysome one can help me plx? why i cant play action cube or sauerbraten...?03:15
junkysay same error03:15
junkyhttp://phpfi.com/18333803:16
zunguijoin #ubuntu.es03:16
junkyi do tha... but doesnt run... im newbie03:16
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junkyplz03:19
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aleksanterihey what's the "code sequence" for extracting a tgz archive with "tar"? with gz it's "-zxvf", what's it with tgz?03:26
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aleksanterioh it WAS "-pxvf" :O03:27
aleksanterii just guessed :P03:27
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aleksanterior... perhaps it wasn't03:28
aleksanterii got an error after the first folder :|03:28
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slow-motionhallo03:37
ZappixHowdy03:37
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nagyvI would like try out boson, but it always freezes when I start a single player game. Is there something I can check?03:39
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NetSharkHi03:44
NetSharkI am having problems installing latest nvidia drivers03:44
klerfaytNetShark: what problems?03:44
NetSharkit installs and i get the nvidia logo on x startup03:45
NetSharkbut glxgears doesn't work03:45
NetSharki get failure to open device (null)03:45
NetSharkand after reboot i can't even start x03:46
klerfaytNetShark: how did you install them?03:46
nagyv!nvidia03:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:46
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klerfaytNetShark: did you insert   DISABLED_MODULES="nv"   into /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?03:47
NetSharki exited kde and ran sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run03:47
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NetSharkis it a bad driver?03:47
klerfaytNetShark: here is a good howto http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=7272303cc2d3882a9191965abfe8c10b&t=72490 - scroll down to Debian GNU/Linux or Ubuntu with Xorg 7.x03:47
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NetSharkok, trying to follow that guide03:49
eilkerhow can i make a folder  hidden ?03:49
NetSharkhow do i uninstall NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1?03:49
klerfaytNetShark: sudo nvidia-installer --uninstall03:50
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NetSharkninstallation of existing driver: NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for03:51
NetShark  Linux-x86 (1.0-9631) is complete.03:51
aleksanteri!automake03:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:51
aleksanteribah03:51
NetSharkhow do i choose the right linux-headers version?03:52
spawn57NetShark: get teh one that matches your kernel version03:52
spawn57uname -r to find out your kernel version03:52
klerfaytspawn57: wait there is a package03:52
NetShark2.6.17-10-generic03:52
klerfaytno wait03:53
spawn57yeap03:53
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spawn57do apt-cache search 2.6.17 or whatever your kernel version is03:53
spawn57also you can get the nvidia binary version using apt-get03:53
klerfaytit is "linux-headers-generic"03:54
klerfaytThis package will always depend on the latest generic kernel headers available.03:54
NetSharklinux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic03:54
NetSharkthis one?03:54
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spawn57yeah, you might wanna get teh 386 one as well03:55
francesco_qualcuno mi dice come funziona qui???03:55
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MidMark!it03:55
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:55
lrentzAny benefits of trying to roll my own kernel.  Kindof a newbie.03:55
spawn57naw03:56
francesco_OK, I'll speak english too03:56
spawn57don't bother03:56
NetSharkok, got the 386 ones too03:56
lrentzI dont think my cpu scaling is working correctly.03:56
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lrentzon a core 2 duo.03:56
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klerfaytNetShark: you just do "apt-get install linux-headers-generic"03:56
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rhodrihi, is there a difference in the version of alsa that ships with the edgy releases of ubuntu and kubuntu?03:57
BluesKajHowdy all ! :)03:58
NetSharkinux-headers-generic is already the newest version.03:58
NetShark=L03:58
lrentzhey03:58
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spawn57NetShark: seems like you have it03:59
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klerfaytNetShark: it is ok then04:00
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NetSharkok, i did all teh things in that guide04:00
spawn57what're you trying to do?04:00
NetSharkshould i exit kde and install the nvidia package?04:00
klerfaytNetShark: did you blacklist "nv"?04:00
NetSharkhmm04:00
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NetSharknot sure04:00
klerfaytNetShark: yes, now exit, and then in tty sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:01
rhodrihi, is there a difference in the version of alsa that ships with the edgy releases of ubuntu and kubuntu?04:01
klerfaytNetShark: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common       DISABLED_MODULES="nv"04:01
spawn57you can install it without restarting04:02
spawn57rhodri: nope04:02
rhodrispawn57: ok, thanks for the info!04:02
spawn57rhodri: =D04:02
NetSharkdone04:02
NetSharkdisabled nv04:02
klerfaytNetShark: good now log out of kde and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:03
NetSharkok04:04
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NetSharkafter kdm stop i can install that package?04:05
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klerfaytNetShark: yeah04:06
NetSharkok04:06
NetSharkthnaks so far04:06
NetShark*thanks even04:06
spawn57i hate the whole sudo thing04:06
eilkercan we have more than 1 graphical session in kde ? like in xp ? i mean user switching....04:07
klerfayteilker: yes04:08
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xenolplz can someone help me how to remake ubuntu GRUB screen to SuSE like?04:10
xenolshould i follow this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855&highlight=GfxBoot+%28+Grub+like+suse04:10
nagyv!build04:10
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:10
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xenoldr_willis u here?04:11
xenolif i remake ubuntu GRUB screen to SuSE like? should i follow this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855&highlight=GfxBoot+%28+Grub+like+suse04:13
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NetSharkok04:15
NetSharkglxgears work now04:15
NetSharkbut i get an error on logout04:15
klerfaytNetShark: what error?04:15
NetSharki saved the error log from that window04:15
NetSharklet me paste it on some website04:16
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klerfayt!pastebin04:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:17
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NetSharkok: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36255/04:18
NetSharkthis happens every time i click on Logout in kde04:19
klerfaytNetShark: what crashed? panel?04:19
NetSharkyeah, i get a error dialog04:19
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klerfaytNetShark: and this is connected to nvidia driver?04:20
NetSharkyes04:20
NetSharklet me copy the error msg04:20
NetSharkbrb04:20
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Zamber!aiglx04:23
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.04:23
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eilker!sh04:23
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands04:23
eilker!bash > eilker04:23
NetSharkThe application Konversation crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)04:23
Zamberlol :p04:24
NetSharkThe application KDE Session Manager (ksmserver) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)04:24
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NetSharkthese 2 errors04:24
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klerfaytNetShark: wow. and this all happens only if you use nvidia proprietary driver?04:24
NetSharkyes04:24
NetSharkafter reboot x-server won't even start04:25
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klerfaytNetShark: didn't you just tell that you installed nvidia drivers?04:25
NetSharki just installed them (the 3rd time i guess)04:26
NetSharkbut this time i got glxgears running04:26
NetShark:)04:26
klerfaytand x won't start?04:26
NetSharkit's starting now, but after reboot, no04:26
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heinkel_111ok then, since it is sunday morning and you have nothing else to do, how about giving it a go troubleshooting my kde crashes: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11829.004:28
heinkel_111:-)04:28
NetSharkit's sunday evening here :)04:28
heinkel_111maybe i should change that to afternoon now04:28
heinkel_111:P04:28
klerfaytsudo nvidia-bug-report.sh and send email to linux-bugs@nvidia.com with attachment and description?04:28
heinkel_111i posted the link this morning, and it doesnt look like anyone on at the time had useful suggestions04:28
NetSharkok, i'll send it04:29
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rhodrihi, i'm following a tutorial that assumes i have libasound version 1.0.12 for edgy, but my edgy only has version 1.0.11, and i checked the ubuntu packages search and that says edgy has 1.0.11 aswell... and fiesty has version 1.0.13... so where does 1.0.12 fit into this, can anyone help?!!?!?!  thanks.04:29
klerfaytheinkel_111: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGSEGV04:29
heinkel_111klerfayt: thanks for the information, but YES my RAM is ok04:31
heinkel_111klerfayt: i run it 5 time through memcheck with 0 errors04:31
NetSharkare there stable nvidia drivers ?04:31
heinkel_111but these SIGSEGV errors i get all the time04:31
NetSharkSysinfo for 'nsa': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2993 MHz (5985 bogomips), , RAM: 700/1009MB, 133 proc's, 56.14min up04:31
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klerfaytNetShark: 1.0-9631 works fine here without sigsegv04:33
NetSharkhmm04:33
NetSharki want it to work fine here too04:33
NetSharklet me reboot it04:33
NetSharkmaybe it's working better this time04:33
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ubuntuhi04:37
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ubuntuis there any way how to change the grub so that it look as suse?04:38
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NetSharkwow04:39
NetSharkit started04:39
NetSharkand i don't get those sigsegv errors anymore04:39
NetSharkone more thing04:39
NetSharkit doesn't retain settings04:39
Vladdyati drivers suck O_O04:40
NetSharki set it to 1024x768@85 Hz04:40
NetSharkand after restart it goes back to 43 Hz04:40
ubuntuATI sux but it is possible to run XGL with em?04:40
klerfaytNetShark: you set it in nvidia-settings?04:40
NetSharkyes04:41
NetSharkthe proprietary nvidia control panel04:41
klerfaytNetShark: this is the default behaviour of nvidia-settings04:41
NetSharkhow do I save the settings then?04:41
klerfaytNetShark: no idea, they do not keep settings here either04:42
NetSharkit's a little bit frustrating04:42
NetSharknvidia did that to windows drivers too04:42
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NetSharkit used to forget overlay settings04:43
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NetSharkfortunately there was a registry hack available04:43
NetSharki think there is a file i can edit?04:43
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klerfaytNetShark: you can do it in gnome04:43
NetSharkI installed kubuntu to get kde04:44
NetSharki don't really like gnome04:44
klerfaytNetShark: you have to put nvidia-settings --load-config-only04:44
NetSharkwhere?04:45
klerfaytNetShark: somewhere I don't remember :D04:45
NetSharkok :)))04:45
NetSharkok, another question04:45
NetSharkhow do I register .exe file to open automatically with wine04:45
NetShark?04:45
klerfaytNetShark: right-click on it04:46
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klerfaytNetShark: open with application> other> remember...04:47
NetSharkyes04:47
NetSharkdid that already04:47
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NetSharkit doesn't remember taht either04:48
NetShark*that04:48
NetSharkit doesn't even work now :(04:49
NetSharkunder ubuntu i could start that app04:49
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NetSharkwine is just showing the hourglass, then nothing04:49
klerfaytNetShark: can you start exe in konsole?04:50
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klerfaytNetShark: cd in folder there exe is located and run    wine thatfile.exe04:50
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klerfaytNetShark: sometimes they don't work with wine unless you cd into folder - again I do not know why04:51
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NetSharkfixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0001: stub!04:51
NetSharkthis is the first error04:51
NetSharkhmm04:51
klerfaytNetShark: what keyboard are you using?04:52
NetSharkstandard US but with romanian default04:52
NetSharki could remove that line of code04:52
NetSharkit's an app I wrote04:52
klerfaytchange to us before trying exe with wine04:52
NetSharkok04:53
klerfaytI haved used application in the past that only worked with wine then I changed keyboard layout to us04:53
NetSharkin the application?04:53
klerfaytNetShark: you can do it in kde04:54
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klerfaytNetShark: system settings> regional and language> keyboard layout04:55
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NetSharkadded romanian04:55
NetSharkto keyboard layouts04:56
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NetSharkok, other applications that doesn't try to load keyboard layouts are working04:59
NetSharkI will just remove that line and recompile04:59
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NetSharkanother thing :)05:01
NetSharkI can't install nerolinux05:01
NetSharkit installed fine in ubuntu05:01
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NetSharkah05:02
klerfaytNetShark: what is nerolinux?05:02
NetSharkit asks for libgtk1.205:02
NetSharkNero for linux05:03
NetSharkyou know... the cd burning app05:03
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klerfaytNetShark: have you tried k3b?05:03
NetSharknot yet05:03
NetSharkis it better?05:03
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NetSharkhmm05:04
NetSharklooks nice05:04
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NetSharkcan I mount ISO files ?05:04
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NetSharkas virtual cds05:04
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klerfaytNetShark: and nero lets you mount iso? I should check it out then05:07
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NetSharkyeah, it has a component called nero imagedrive05:08
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pasku /server libres.irc-hispano.org05:08
NetSharki'm not sure it has it in linux version too05:08
klerfaytNetShark: you could use command  mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso05:09
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klerfaytNetShark: ofcourse you should mount somewhere in you home directory instead05:10
NetSharknice05:10
NetSharkit's doing it natively05:10
NetSharkcool05:10
NetSharki'm new in linux05:11
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Vladdyhehe05:12
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Vladdyyou can even mount the filesystem image that is on the cd :P05:12
Vladdyof kubuntu installer :O05:12
baphometHello, I wanted to change the background you see when you log into kde, and I changed it in -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 363 2006-12-06 19:20 /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc05:13
baphomet... it appears, then  there's that ugly kubuntu login screen05:13
Vladdyehm05:13
baphomethow can I get rid of that ugly loogin screen plaese?05:13
Vladdyeasier to do it elsewhere05:13
baphometah ?05:13
VladdyK menu -> system settings -> advanced -> login screen05:13
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Vladdylot easier :-)05:15
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baphometok05:16
baphometVladdy: thank you :)05:16
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klerfaytbaphomet: if you want to change the login screen theme (kdm theme) then you should install "kdmtheme"05:17
baphometVladdy: but my wallpaper is there, but there's still that ugly blue kubuntu login wazllpaper that appears05:17
baphometVladdy: apt-get install kdetheme ?05:17
klerfaytbaphomet: kdmtheme05:18
junkysomeone can help me05:18
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klerfaytjunky: hopefully05:19
junkyi cant run games like open arena, action cube, sauerbraten05:19
junkyim new in kubuntu...05:20
klerfaytjunky: I guess you have to install nvidia proprietary drivers05:20
klerfaytjunky: or ati05:20
klerfaytjunky: what graphics card do you use?05:21
baphometVladdy: sorry but what exactly do I have to do with "kdetheme" ? I see no file called kdetheme...05:21
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klerfaytbaphomet: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme not kdetheme05:21
junkyhttp://phpfi.com/18339305:21
junkyi use nvidia05:21
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klerfaytjunky: and have proprietary drivers installed?05:22
baphometVladdy: ok, and then ?05:22
junkyi folow a tutorial...05:22
junkyteory i install... but...05:22
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klerfaytbaphomet: I'm not vladdy, press alt-f2 and type in there   kcontrol05:22
klerfaytjunky: can you run glxgears05:23
junkyi dont know... i put this in konsole?05:23
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klerfaytjunky: yeah05:23
junkyyeah05:24
junkyi can run it05:24
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klerfaytjunky: where did you get sauerbraten?05:24
junkyfrom the web, but action cube and open arena also dont run05:24
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crazyreddwolfwith me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server05:25
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klerfaytjunky: you downloaded  sauerbraten_2006_12_04_gui_edition_linux.tar.gz  ?05:25
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junkyyes05:25
klerfaytjunky: you had to compile it?05:25
junkyi do this make install in .../src05:26
junkyand it do someting...05:26
junkybut the game don run05:26
klerfaytjunky: SDL, SDL-image, SDL-mixer, and OpenGL libraries are installed?05:27
crazyreddwolfwith me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server05:27
junkyi dont know, i install somethink with adept administrator... but i dont know if i do well because when i search sdl.. there are many results05:28
digilux,05:28
klerfaytjunky: libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-image1.205:29
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gsuvegre05:29
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junkyyeah status : installed all this two libsdl-mixer1.2 and libsdl-image1.205:30
gsuveganyonde know a kickoff source or deb?05:30
Jucatogsuveg: I believe one is available in kde-apps or kde-look05:31
junkyif i put details in libsdl-image1.2 there are 3 conflict05:31
crazyreddwolfwith me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server05:31
klerfaytjunky: what about libsdl-image1.2-dev? and lidsl-mixer1.2-dev05:31
gsuvegJucato: thanks05:31
junkylibsdl-image-dev, libsdl-image1.0-dev and libsdl-image1.1-dev05:31
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crazyreddwolfi have looked at the server guid but still have trouble getting the server up and running05:31
junkyconflit with this05:32
junkylibsdl-image-dev, libsdl-image1.0-dev and libsdl-image1.1-dev05:32
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klerfaytjunky: hmm, what repositories are you using? universe, multiverse? something else?05:32
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st_ironhi05:32
junkyi dont know05:32
klerfaytjunky: I don't get conflicts here05:32
junkyi am a newbie..05:32
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junkywhat is universe and multiverse?05:33
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Jucatojunky: <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource05:35
ajopaul_i have two sound cards, how do i make one default?05:35
junkyoks05:35
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klerfaytjunky: you shouldn't get conflicts with libsdl05:36
crazyreddwolfwith me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server05:36
crazyreddwolfwith me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server05:36
junkyno, i have not programs... i install kubuntu yestarday05:36
klerfayt!ftp05:36
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd05:36
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crazyreddwolfi tryed the apt-get of vsftpd but could not get it to config05:37
digilux!help05:37
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:37
digiluxxD05:37
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klerfaytjunky: cd into directory src/ and type make install05:38
junkywhen i put libsdl in adept manager, i have some libsdl(...) installed05:38
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klerfaytjunky: use konsole05:39
junkybut with the kubuntu 6.10 cd?05:39
klerfaytjunky: no05:39
klerfaytcd is a command05:39
junkya oks05:39
junkybut in the folder game no?05:40
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junkythis05:40
junky?05:40
klerfaytjunky: in that game folder05:40
klerfaytjunky: find src folder05:40
junkyoks05:40
junkyoks05:40
ajopaul_i have two sound cards, how do i make one default?05:40
junkyit do something05:40
klerfaytjunky: open konsole, cd /home/yourname/sauerbraten/.../src and then   make install05:41
junkyyyes05:41
junkyi do that and konsole do somethink.... with may lines05:41
junkyand now i try to run game?05:41
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klerfaytjunky: I do not know that05:42
junky?05:42
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klerfaytklerfayt: doesn't the game have readme or instruction what you have to click to run it?05:42
junkyoks05:42
junkythe game now run!05:42
junkythx05:42
junkythanks man05:43
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galathalionhow do you check ur hd-status?05:44
klerfaytgalathalion: activity?05:46
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galathalionklerfayt: never mind.. i found out. thnx anyways05:47
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] [Enrique] [hea wenos dias05:48
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syntaxxim having a problem in installing nvidia driver.. i install linux-restricted modules and nvidia glx but whenever i run nvidia-glx-config enable it says Error: unable to load nvidia kernel module anyone knows why?05:49
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adz21csyntaxx: u got nvidia-kernel-common installed?05:50
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syntaxxadz21c: yes05:51
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adz21care you just using glx-config to set up using the driver? (i never used glx-config before)05:53
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the_hammerhi gang05:53
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syntaxxadz21c: i followed the guide on the wiki nvidiabinary05:53
the_hammerive tried kubuntu before it has kde right i get it mixed up with ubntu alot05:53
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adz21csyntaxx: u got the link i never read it05:54
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syntaxxadz21c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:54
the_hammerany of u guys able to update your firefox to firefox2?05:54
adz21cthe_hammer: i am running 2, but i didn't update05:55
the_hammerim on mepis and i cant seem to update to firefox 2 ive tried 3 times already05:55
adz21csyntaxx: u using legacy or not?05:55
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syntaxxadz21c: nope05:55
the_hammersyn ya mean kubnuntu comes with firefox2 as in 2.0?05:56
adz21cthe_hammer: edgy does i think, hold on i check05:56
the_hammerok05:56
eilker!knmap05:56
adz21cyup i am running 2.005:56
ubotuknmap: nmap graphical interface for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1223 kB, installed size 1932 kB05:56
the_hammerim not sure what all distros are out but i love kde and i love the ones with the apt-get commands,etc05:57
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the_hammerwish i had a list of the distros that use those and then id try them all out05:57
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adz21csyntaxx: u tried setting to the proprietory driver in system settings? pretty much does the same thing05:57
the_hammerevery time i try to look it shows me everything but what i asked for lol05:57
adz21c:P05:57
adz21cthe_hammer: u on edgy or dapper?05:58
napoxwhat is the console command for checking the nvidia driver version ?05:58
syntaxxadz21c: no not yet05:58
the_hammernot sure05:58
syntaxxadz21c: but if i followed the guide it supposed to show it right?05:58
the_hammerdapper looks familure05:58
adz21csyntaxx: i would give that a go, i am sure it does the same thing05:58
adz21csyntaxx: what you mean?05:58
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adz21cthe_hammer: well i think dapper by default has 1.5 max05:59
syntaxxadz21c: reading through the guide and followed it right it must work?05:59
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the_hammerwhat would u recamend for me?05:59
adz21csyntaxx: should but life isn't always that simple i guess05:59
galathalioni need a good ftpklient06:00
adz21cthe_hammer: dappers mean't the be the more stable and longer supported one so i would go with that if ur unsure about linux etc, but if u enable the backports repo firefox may be in there06:00
Jucatogalathalion: Konqueror?06:00
galathalionJucato: how do you use it?06:00
the_hammerwell my distro here is really messed up badly06:01
Jucatogalathalion: ftp://ftp.blahblah.com (or whatever URL)06:01
adz21cthe_hammer: how so?06:01
the_hammeri screwed up firefox06:01
eilker people  lets say i am gonna start to scan  computers's telnet ports with nmap, which are beetwen 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.255 , i just wanna scan 23. port, what will the command be ?06:01
the_hammerjust wanna try fresh06:01
the_hammeri dont know a whole lot about linux and when i mess up i dunno how to undo and fix up what i did06:02
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adz21cthe_hammer: well if your unfamiliar with linux i would stick to dapper, its mean't to be the stable one i think so less likely to run into issues (or atleast thats the theory)06:03
syntaxxadz21c: well it works now.. i just reconfigure xorg06:03
adz21csyntaxx: ah ok, that didn't occur to me :P it using nvidia?06:03
the_hammerwhen it comes to software i like being updated with all the new stuff examples fire fox 1.5.0.8 or something is the version my distro has BUT ya can get firefox2.0 from the net06:03
syntaxxadz21c: it using nv before but now it works :)06:03
adz21cthe_hammer: well then you can try edgy, that has the latest stuff06:04
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adz21csyntaxx: so its now using "nvidia" ?06:04
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Ramsetihi all06:04
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the_hammerok can ya tell me stuff about edgy?06:05
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the_hammerlike is there a distro with kde 3.5 and the apt-get command or does that all change?06:05
syntaxxadz21c: yep06:05
ajopaul_i have two sound cards, how do i make one default?06:06
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adz21cthe_hammer: you can get dapper to use kde 3.5, my parents machine is06:06
syntaxxadz21c: ok now my another problem.. i always modprobe -r bt878 then modprobe bt878 how can i make do it automatically so it will do it everytime i restart? its kinda annoying06:06
the_hammerok06:06
the_hammerare u using kubuntu?06:06
adz21cthe_hammer: as for edgy i barely noticed a difference, firefox 2 is one of the few news things i even noticed06:06
adz21cthe_hammer: yes06:06
the_hammerok well ill give that a try then06:07
the_hammeri have kubuntu here06:07
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adz21csyntaxx: hold on there is a file 1 moment i look06:07
the_hammeri think its 6.006:07
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the_hammeris there a newer one06:07
junkyhi, someone can say how i can change brighness in games??? lice action cube, sauerbraten...06:07
adz21c6.1006:07
junkyi see all very dark06:07
junkyin game06:07
the_hammerok i guess ill have to d/l that alright ill find it and install it06:08
Ramsetisomebody can help me about ati driver installing, when i write in console sudo module-assistant prepare the console answer that module-assistant does not exist why???06:08
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galathalionJucato: konqueror doesnt work so good06:08
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Jucatogalathalion: what do you mean?06:08
galathalionJucato: it doesnt load06:08
adz21csyntaxx: try putting the module name into /etc/modprobe (edit as sudo/root)06:08
syntaxxok thanks06:09
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Jucatoare you sure you typed in the correct URL? and if the ftp requires authentication, the correct username/password?06:09
galathalionJucato: says no item-no files-no folders06:09
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the_hammerok grabbing the 6.1006:09
the_hammerdvd 64 iso06:09
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adz21cthe_hammer: thats what i am running06:10
junky?06:10
the_hammercool06:10
Jucatogalathalion: maybe the ftp directory is really empty? I dunno. it works perfectly here. what's the URL, I'll try to test06:10
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adz21cthe_hammer: only problem i have (which a handful of people have had so i read) is when i boot up the colors suck, but soon as i run a GL program it fixes that ... tis weird06:10
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krisHi. I'm going to be installing Ubuntu in the next couple of days. I'm coming over from Gentoo. I also have a Windows partition on my drive. I'm wondering if there is any way that I can repartition some of my drive, but leave the Windows partition alone and undamaged?06:11
adz21ckris: yes06:11
krisIt's the first two partitions on my drive.06:11
Ramsetiadz21c:  can you help me man....?06:11
adz21cRamseti: dunno whats problem sorry :-)06:11
krisadz21c: What are the risks?06:12
Ramsetii'm lookin for google but i don't find the solution06:12
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Ramsetiduring ati driver installing, when i write in console sudo module-assistant prepare the console answer that module-assistant does not exist why???06:12
Ramsetii've just installed ubuntu 6.1006:12
adz21ckris: I never tried shrinking paritions with kubuntu if thats what your asking, I did on mandriva and all went smooth, but if u have free space and dont even want to resize ur windows partition then ur ok06:12
adz21ckris: during install there is a partition manager06:12
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krisadz21c: Got it. Thank you.06:13
adz21cRamseti: ooooo hard one, i never done an ati install06:13
Ramsetiokbut06:13
Ramsetithe prob is about06:13
Ramsetithe assistant-module06:13
adz21cnver had to do that either06:13
krisQuestion 2: Does the Kubuntu Live CD have a samba server on it?06:13
adz21ckris: u mean during the live install?06:14
Ramsetithe assistant-module is not included with the ubuntu installation or i need to install something?06:14
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krisadz21c: I mean while I'm running the live cd. Say that I wanted to run the live cd for a couple of days, could I share my printer?06:14
adz21cRamseti: entirely possible ur missing a package, hold on i have a peak see what i can find06:14
Ramsetioh man thanks you are rare06:15
adz21ckris: not by default, u just have to install samba while live runs (doesn't do anything on your hdd just to live in memory) then go on as if its not live06:15
krisadz21c: apt-get install samba?06:15
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adz21ckris: spot on06:15
krisadz21c: See. Us gentooers aren't all bad ... :-)06:16
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galathalionJucato: how do you set passive mode in konqueror then?06:18
adz21cRamseti: `sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential`?06:18
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adz21cgalathalion: from my experience konqueror is a good ftp manager for most FTP stuff, but the gui is geared up for general file management, if u want something taylored specifically to FTP try kftpgrabber maybe? not used it much myself but seems like it knows what its doing atleast06:20
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Jucatoadz21c: you've tried splitting views?06:22
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adz21cJucato: oh yea, like i say for most like say 90% of stuff konqueror is more than adequate06:22
galathalionwell.. it doesnt work for me..06:22
Jucatowhat's the other 10%?06:22
adz21ci can't queue ... which i don't really use, hence reason i tend to use konqueror06:23
BluesKajmy flash isn't working on youtube...just updated flash 9 plugin yesterday ....worked ok then, but not anymore06:23
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adz21cand i am sure theres other small lil features i don't know about06:23
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the_hammergonna take 4hrs to grab this dvd and i gotta go out for a while so i hope upon return it will be all done :)06:24
the_hammergonna take kids to see santa :)06:24
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adz21cthe_hammer: laters :-)06:24
the_hammerill be here for a short still06:24
the_hammeradz21c u always here?06:24
adz21cthe_hammer: i have been lately, but i am not when i am at work ... and sometimes i forget to set myself to away :-)06:25
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the_hammerahh your ahead of me cuz i dunno how to set away lol06:25
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the_hammeru use xchat?06:26
adz21clol /away06:26
adz21ckonversation06:26
the_hammerahh ok06:26
the_hammeri seen another neat looking irc client called KVirc or something06:26
the_hammerseen it when i tried out arklinux06:26
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adz21cyes, i saw that was quite popular06:26
adz21cnot looked into it though06:26
cloakablethe_hammer: It's on Kubuntu too :)06:27
the_hammerya its nice looking cool i look forward to trying it again06:27
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the_hammerdo any of u guys use eyecandy apps?06:27
the_hammersuperkaramba?06:28
cloakableYeah. I use SuperKaramba06:28
adz21ci use superkaramba06:28
the_hammercool06:28
cloakableKBFX too06:28
galathalionadz21c: thank you.. finally a _real_ client ^^06:28
the_hammerone thing i cant get working is liquid weather06:28
the_hammerbut i assume its got something to do with my distro06:28
adz21cgalathalion: np, like i said before konqueror is great for quick file transfers, but kftpgrabber is geared up specifically for ftp and tends to following the same gui style layout06:29
adz21cas others06:29
galathalionadz21c: yes thats what i wanted06:29
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the_hammerbbl all06:30
the_hammerhave a wonderfull day06:30
adz21clater06:30
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ultm8hello every106:31
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ultm8can any1 help me, am trying to upload files from my computer to my lan server using openssh06:32
adz21cultm8: i do my best but no guarantuees :P06:32
ultm8oh cool adz21c06:32
ultm8yeah for instance i'm on this computer.... i want to move a file on my desktop myfile.zip over to my home/public_html06:33
itch^Hello guys. Can somebody give me hand with a problem regading a kernel compilation. Each time i try to complile the kernel, I get this error:" make[1] : *** [.tmp_vmlinux1]  Error 1 / make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.17.14' / make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel]  Error 2 "06:34
ultm8what commands do i need06:34
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iberthi! I'm having big troubles with the gam_server. anybody knows a clean way to deactivate him?06:34
ultm8i know this sounds newbish06:34
adz21cvia ssh?06:34
ultm8yes06:34
adz21cyou need to create an sftp connection as far as i know06:35
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ultm8oki doki06:35
ultm8can i ask how to do this?06:35
verboseadz21c: you can also use scp06:35
adz21ccan u?06:35
adz21cace06:35
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adz21chow you do that cos i am still quite noobish :P06:36
verbosefor example: scp myfile.zip user@host:myfile.zip06:36
ibertultm8: in konqueror type fish://hostname06:36
ultm8using gnome06:36
ibertultm8: then you'll get the / of the hostname06:36
ibertultm8: sorry06:36
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adz21cverbose: well you learn something new everyday :D06:37
verboseadz21c: sorry, thought you were asking...that was directed at ultm806:37
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adz21clol yea, well i was also, i only knew of sftp06:37
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itch^Hello guys. Can somebody give me hand with a problem regading a kernel compilation. Each time i try to complile the kernel, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36286/06:39
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ibertthe only way to deactivate gam_server is to chmod?06:40
ultm8basically adz21c i followed this joomla tutorialhttp://www.parcival.org/2006/07/14/howto-install-joomla-on-your-very-own-ubuntu-server/06:41
ultm8i install samba too06:41
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adz21cultm8: you tried verbose suggestion?06:41
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ultm8erm hold on will scroll up to see what he put06:41
ultm81 second06:42
ultm8yeah i can see my server up06:42
ultm8when typing http://localhost06:42
ultm8but nothing with fish://hostname06:43
itch^Hello guys. Can somebody give me hand with a problem regarding a kernel compilation. Each time i try to complile the kernel, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36286/06:43
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ultm8i can log into each computer using openssh06:44
ultm8but just don't know how to transfer files over06:44
adz21cultm8: not i mean in ssh tried the command scp as described by verbose06:44
ibertultm8: man scp06:44
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ultm8erm scp nope06:44
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ultm8could u give me an example in how to using it06:44
ultm8:o)06:44
ultm8plz06:44
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ibertultm8: scp file user@host:/path/to/file06:45
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ultm8oh cool06:45
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ultm8k give me 1 sec to try out06:45
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ultm8 sudo scp /home/myprofile/Desktop/LINUX smb://mshome/myservername/myprofile/public_html/06:47
ultm8would i put something like this?06:47
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ibertultm8: no06:47
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ibertultm8: you have to read for yourself: scp file user@host:/path/to/file06:48
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ibertultm8: forget smb:06:48
ultm8oki doki06:48
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ibertultm8: just username@host:/pathtofile/06:48
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ultm8which computer do i need to type this into? my server or the 1 i want to send files from to?06:49
ultm8or both?06:49
ibertultm8: would ou please be so kind and read the man page of scp? thanks06:49
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ibertultm8: man scp06:50
ultm8yeah sure06:50
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ultm8thx iber06:50
ultm8t06:50
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ultm8ok i have read the scp06:54
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ultm8am no closer to moving files from 1 computer to the other though :o(06:54
zorglu_!scp06:54
ubotuscp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client06:54
zorglu_ultm8: this is a way to do it06:55
zorglu_!samba06:55
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:55
zorglu_this is another way, harder to setup tho06:55
zorglu_!ftp06:55
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd06:55
zorglu_ftp is another :)06:55
ultm8sure06:55
ultm8i have a default ubuntu lamp box installed06:55
ultm8and using ubuntu on the other copm06:56
ultm8comp06:56
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ultm8basically i want to copy 1 folder over to my lamp box's public_html i created06:56
ultm8using scp or openssh06:56
TheGateKeeperultm8, you trying to move files on your own lan?06:56
ultm8over my lan06:56
ultm8box computers are on same lan06:57
TheGateKeeper!nfs06:57
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.06:57
TheGateKeeperultm8, ^^^^06:57
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zorglu_http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_copy_files.2Ffolders_from_remote_Ubuntu_machine_into_local_machine_.28scp.2906:57
zorglu_i can hardly do more :)06:57
ultm8wow u guys r sharp06:57
ultm8:o)06:57
ultm8will check out the posts06:58
ultm8thx u06:58
TheGateKeeperultm8, you only need to use ssh if you are moving files accross an unsecured network06:58
ultm8yeah sure i understand this06:58
ultm8but i thought while i have it set up06:58
ultm8what not try how to do it06:58
ultm8using this method06:58
ultm8why not what06:58
TheGateKeeperultm8, well... :-)06:59
ultm8i thought i might just have to type in 1 long command and boom it would cross over06:59
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ultm8i can log into the server from this computer06:59
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TheGateKeepertry with konqueror07:00
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ultm8only problem is am using the gnome environment07:01
ultm8not kde07:01
ultm8i should be on the #ubuntu irc really07:01
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TheGateKeeperok with whatever gnome uses for konqueror07:01
ultm8am not sure what that is to be honest07:01
ultm8hehehe07:01
kkathmanhow do I check the version of a program in the repo-cache?07:02
kkathmanmust be an option with apt-cache I reckon07:02
TheGateKeeperultm8, it's all the same under the surface07:02
ultm8yeah nice core, different skin07:02
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ultm8scp -r username@192.168.0.1:/home/username/remotefile.txt <--- thats the command i was looking for07:04
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TheGateKeeperkkathman, apt:/ <-- on konqueror will tell you all you need to know07:04
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ibertTheGateKeeper: wow. didn't know this apt:/ ... great thing07:06
TheGateKeeperibert, firefox also has a repo search engine07:07
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ultm8zorglu u da man07:07
ultm8or women07:07
ultm8whichever07:07
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ibertTheGateKeeper: Do you hava a tip how to get rid of gam_server?07:07
ganymed_are the ttys disabled in edgy by default???07:07
TheGateKeeperibert, don't think so, apart from apt-get remove --purge <package>07:09
kkathmanTheGateKeeper:  well Im trying to see what version Blender is on the repos to know whether I should get it there, or download directly from the home page07:09
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TheGateKeeperkkathman, this? http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/graphics/blender07:11
kkathmanlooks like 2.42 but the home page lists only 2.32 available hmm07:12
kkathman2.4 on Windows, 2.4.2 on FreeBSD07:12
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ganymed_are the ttys disabled in edgy by default???07:16
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ganymed_i would like to switch to the console, but i get a graphics failure. i wanna know if this is due to the ati drivers or if the ttys are disabled anyway?07:17
ganymed_.07:17
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xenolplz r repositories from ubuntu for synaptic same for adept and kubuntu?07:19
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ganymed_yes07:20
xenolhehe07:20
xenolso i can change default with onesi found for ubuntu?07:21
ganymed_what do you wanna do?07:21
xenoli have repositories for adept in kubuntu i found repositories for synaptic for ubuntu07:22
xenolcan i use those from ubuntu?07:22
xenol!restricted format07:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restricted format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:22
xwolf-!restrictedformats07:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:22
xenolty :)07:22
Zamberwtf is this "Load  "vbe"" in xorg.conf ?07:22
xwolf-^^07:22
Zamberin the Module section07:22
ganymed_they are the same07:23
ganymed_there is no difference in official repos except you do not actually have official ones.07:24
ganymed_but yes, you can use them, but there won't be difference as long as it is the same ubuntu version (edgy, e.g.). otherwise you might get into trouble not using official repos07:25
xenoli found for ubuntu dapper and i have kubuntu dapper07:25
xenolso it is ok07:25
xenol?07:25
ganymed_again, kubuntu only differs in one respect from ubuntu. it has the package "kubuntu-desktop" (a meta package) installed by default while not having all the gnome stuff07:27
xenolaha07:27
ganymed_so there is NO difference, no matter if you have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu and what might be invented in future07:27
xenolshould i backup my original lst?07:27
ganymed_ok, what did you not understand? why would you wanna change your repos? synaptic and adept use the same sources.lst, which is the same for (k)ubuntu07:28
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the_hammeri hate gnome its horrible07:28
ganymed_THAT is a statement07:28
xenoli undrstand i am gonna change all repos07:28
the_hammerlol07:29
xenolbut dunno if i will need the original file07:29
ganymed_ok, why???07:29
ganymed_why do you wanna do this?07:29
xenolcause i cant find libxine-extracodecs in repos i have07:29
the_hammercould try a google search xenol07:30
the_hammerive had to do that a few times with stuff i wanted07:30
xenolwhy if they r part of repos i find? :P07:30
krisHi. I'm trying to install kubuntu. I'm at the "prepare mount points" screen, and have selected a device to use as my root partition, but it is telling me that I don't have a root file system.07:30
xenoldo u have / ?07:31
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krisYes.07:31
xenolhmmm07:31
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the_hammerive always done things the more complicated way i guess lol07:31
krisIt's 2 Gb in size.07:31
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the_hammeranyone here use liquidweather?07:32
ganymed_xenol: now we are getting to the point07:32
xenolkris sry i cant help am still noob having kubutu second day now07:32
xenolganymed: if i need to backup my original surces.lst07:32
krisGotcha.07:32
ganymed_read the tut on restricted formats07:32
dennisterhi ppl07:32
the_hammerkris do u have a primary and swap parition made?07:33
krisYes.07:33
ganymed_otherwise this might be considered a RTFM question07:33
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xenolk thx07:33
krisQuestion: on other linux distros, I had no problems with having a logical partition as my root partition. Could that be a problem here?07:33
the_hammerim not sure why your having a hard time then wish i could help but im somewhat a neoob myself07:33
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the_hammerit might be07:34
the_hammeri set mine both as primarys07:34
ganymed_xenol: add multiverse to your repos and everything should work07:34
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the_hammeri dont like the partition options in some distros i like the one in slack07:35
ORiON-kris, the answer is no.07:35
the_hammerallows u to more define07:35
dennisterQ: i've now registered my nick, and in trying to configure the client, Konversation, what goes in the AutoIdentify Service field?07:35
TheGateKeeperkris, you need to have a partition that is at least 5gb in size to install kubuntu07:35
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the_hammeri use slack to partition then i use what ever distro i wanna install07:35
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krisORiON: No, as in a logical root partition won't cause me problems?07:36
dennisterhi TheGateKeeper :)07:36
TheGateKeeperkris, probable less with a server install07:36
krisTheGateKeeper: I have multiple partitions.07:36
TheGateKeeperhiya dennister07:36
ORiON-i installed my root partition on logical07:36
ORiON-no problems07:36
kris3G for /, 24G for usr, 24G for home, 3G for var07:36
ORiON-dont do it07:36
krisGot it.07:36
ORiON-3G is nothing for root07:36
_patrickhi - how can i check if my graphic card is working well? just glxgears or sth 'real' :)07:37
krisWhat if I have a 24G usr partition?07:37
the_hammerwont get to far with 3gigs07:37
xenoldamn i didnt set  GB to /usr does it matter?07:37
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TheGateKeeperkris, root takes about 4gb with / & /home on seperate partitions07:37
krisOK ... but I'm mount /tmp, /var, /boot, /usr, and /home all on diff partitions.07:37
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bertxhi!07:38
krisWill it still take that much?07:38
the_hammerthe way i partition i make my swap same size as my ram and then what ever is left over i use that as my primary07:38
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ORiON-kris, to use /var on the same hd is useless07:38
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krisORiON: I'm sorry, I don't understand.07:38
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ironfroggyhow can i add a user to cups? or, even better, allow anonymous printing?07:38
ORiON-how many hardrives do u have?07:38
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the_hammerexample:my primary is 249546.77 and my swap is 509.9707:39
xenolplz where can i find libxine-extracodecs?07:39
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dennisterkris: i have a root partition on my server install of 15G, home gets the same, plus a 200G xfs partition for /var/lib (mine is a mythtv box07:40
krisAll I'm saying is that when I used Gentoo, I had a 2G root partition, and it was more than 50% free. That was with only /dev, /bin, /sbin, and /etc on it.07:40
ORiON-use extra repos07:40
ORiON-edit your sources.list07:40
xenoldone07:40
xenolbut cant find it on repos i have :/07:40
the_hammerGentoo now theres a pain in the arse distro lol07:41
ORiON-xenxol... do u know how to edit the file?07:41
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xenolk have it now :P07:41
xenolzep07:41
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dennistergentoo is also about truly minimal installs, only what you actually need; ubuntu  is different, a bit more bloat, but not that much...still tiny compared to others07:41
the_hammerya i like maximum install distros07:41
dennisteri actually blame kde for that 'bloat' but I like kde, so...07:42
nic0debian <307:42
the_hammersmallest distro ive found so far is dsl (dam small linux)07:42
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the_hammeri use that on my lappy lol07:42
the_hammerits 50mb in tottal07:42
ORiON-i dont see any reason to use such a distro unless u have a really old pc07:42
the_hammermy lappy is younger then a dinosour lol07:42
nic0i normally use backtrack live cd on my laptop which is slax07:42
nic0otherwise ill boot directly into debian on it07:43
the_hammermy lappy is so old it cant boot that07:43
B-Minus_whats the apt get command to clean the temp folder again ?07:43
the_hammerive tried07:43
ORiON-apt-get clean07:43
B-Minus_tnx07:43
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nic0my Acer Aspire is actually very compatible with a lot of the distros out of the box which is ironic07:43
ORiON-i recommend u to use aptitude07:43
krisWell, that still doesn't answer my question: why is the install screen saying that I don't have a root file system, when I've selected a partition to use as root?07:44
B-Minus_why is that07:44
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xenolok i got new problem i found codecs i need07:44
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dennisteranyone for my Konversation question? what goes in the AutoIdentify's Service field?07:44
ORiON-its a bit more advanced07:44
xenoli request install but i dont see them as installed :/07:44
ORiON-u can do search with aptitude for example07:44
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nic0because it isnt a common laptop07:44
nic0i got the walmart special :P07:44
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ORiON-dennister... unless u have more than one identify leave it alone07:45
nic0the only troubles ive had was with some acpi functions07:45
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xenolorion wat need to do? use apt get?07:45
ORiON-for what?07:45
nic0i just downloaded kubuntu to try it out.. i'm not liking it07:45
dennisterORiON-: i do, and have just registered them, now it takes longer to login07:45
xenolcodecs07:45
the_hammerthe only time ive seen that error is when partition isnt set right07:46
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dennisterfreenode's directions also say to configure your client to automatically enter the password07:46
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dennisterso that's what I'm trying to do07:46
the_hammerapt-get install win32 codecs07:46
ORiON-can u upload a screenshot of your installion screen?07:46
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krisWell. I guess I'll just do this the old fashoned way: fdisk!07:47
ORiON-u said u used gentoo before right?07:47
the_hammeri use cfdisk07:47
krisORiON: Ya.07:47
the_hammeralot easyer to do it that way07:48
ORiON-for how long?07:48
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krisORiON: Uhm, couple years.07:48
krisORiON: 3-407:48
ORiON-ooh... i dont know much pplz who left gentoo after such a long time07:48
the_hammerlol i couldnt get past the install of it07:49
krisORiON: Well, I'm a college student now, and no longer really have the time to maintain it.07:49
ORiON-but i am sure u gonna get love at ubuntu too :p07:49
krisYa. Less configuration. ;-)07:49
Murchadh!kubuntu firewall07:49
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xenolok it is installing those codecs now :P07:49
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Murchadh!default firewall07:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about default firewall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:49
ORiON-gl07:49
krisORiON: Thanks.07:50
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the_hammerxenol the win32 codecs?07:50
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MurchadhHi all. What is the recomended firewall for Kubuntu 6.10? (If there is one)07:51
xenolyup all i need for video07:51
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xenolmentioned in restrictedformats07:51
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ORiON-i am using firestarter07:51
ORiON-its working great07:51
the_hammerok in your sysn thingy search libdvd and install everything it lists off07:51
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the_hammerfor libdvd07:51
the_hammertheres between 7 to 10 of them if i remember right07:52
ORiON-907:52
xenoldo i need to restart PC or no after codec isntall?07:52
krisWow. I never realized how much space the journal took up on a file system. For a 24G partition, the journal is taking up 1.37G. That's with nothing else on it but the journal!07:52
BluesKajInstalled the Flashplayer 9 , now flash won't work on youtube ... anyone have a fix for this or shoulf i revert to the previous version ?07:52
ORiON-no need07:52
the_hammernope dont need a reboot07:52
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the_hammerthis isnt windows lol07:52
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BluesKaj!ops07:52
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist07:52
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MurchadhORiON-, Yeah. Me too on my 6.06 system. On my fresh new install it's requesting 25 qt files, so I was wondering if there was a more kde integrated option.07:53
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krisCan we kick spammer?07:53
ORiON-blue... i am using flash 9 and its working fine at youtube07:53
ORiON-what browser r u using?07:53
BluesKajFF07:53
ORiON-version?07:53
apokryphosthis guy struck yesterday, too, IIRC07:53
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xenolanother question i have updates for mz software as pzthon, c++ palm etc if i dont  have it will it download and install it?07:53
ORiON-blue how did u install the flash?07:54
ORiON-apt?07:54
BluesKajyup07:54
the_hammerlibdvdcss2 try to see if ya can find that 107:54
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heinkel_111apokryphos: why do operators on freenode channels only assume the operator role for whatever action they do?07:55
ORiON-there is not such a package07:55
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ORiON-oopz07:55
ORiON-there is07:55
ORiON-my mistake07:55
heinkel_111apokryphos: on quakenet people that are operators always are operators...07:55
apokryphosheinkel_111: not always the case, but most of the time. Secret sudden attack ;-)07:55
the_hammeri use mepis and its based off of ubuntu and i got libdvdcss207:56
heinkel_111O_o I saw one! I saw one! they are out there to get'cha if ya don't behave!07:56
apokryphosheinkel_111: yeah, on other networks people have it because they think it's a proper status. But we're all Ubuntu users, same status. Just some of us help with channel facilitation07:56
the_hammermind ya i had to edit the sources.list07:56
ORiON-blue... does the flash working on sites other than youtube?07:57
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MurchadhGuess I'll stick with firestarter. It's doing it's job after all!07:58
xenolNICE!07:58
BluesKajORiON-, transfered the libflashplayer.so over to the  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ok after removing the old version ...funny thing id that the plugin worked last nite , but now it doesn't work and there are no error messages either ...something is missing07:58
xenolwrking :D07:58
BluesKajORiON-, like url .. ?07:59
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ORiON-url for a site using flash?07:59
BluesKajyes07:59
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ORiON-lol07:59
ORiON-cant u find one for yourself? :p08:00
BluesKajhow can you tell ...there so many plugins :)08:00
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doppelganger_hi guys, how do you upgrade a particular package using apt-get? (i've googled) i'm trying to upgrade beryl so i'll get some of it's newer features08:02
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ORiON-y not to upgrate all the packages?08:04
doppelganger_i just didn't want to sit through an upgrade of it all08:04
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ORiON-ok08:04
doppelganger_is there not a way short of doing that?08:04
ORiON-so just install the particular package08:05
ORiON-u can see all the upgradable packages08:05
xenolplz is there anz waz i can close all opened windows?08:05
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ORiON-and install manually the packages u want to upgrade08:05
doppelganger_oh ok, so install will also upgrade them?  i gotcha08:06
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ORiON-yup08:06
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z0idwhat happened to compiz-kde?08:06
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doppelganger_well, install says it's already installed  \/08:08
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doppelganger_er =/08:09
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cccz0id: compiz-kde?08:09
ORiON-xenol... close them with the keyboard its much faster than the mouse :p08:09
doppelganger_but i know it's not the latest one, because it doesn't have that new flame thing that my one at work does08:09
ORiON-so use08:09
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ORiON-reinstall istead of install08:09
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junkyhello08:09
wonderboyhi all08:09
z0idccc: the kde specific compiz package? like compiz-gnome on ubuntu08:09
doppelganger_will try, thanks08:10
junkysomeone can say me why i see the pictures with low colors?08:10
wonderboyI have a question08:10
ORiON-junky? where do u see them?08:10
wonderboyI have no sound08:10
ORiON-when u play mp3? or no sound at all?08:11
wonderboyand i don't know why08:11
wonderboyno sound at all08:11
junkyon internet or my pictures there are low colors...08:11
junkylow difiniion08:11
junkyno good quality08:11
wonderboyis somebody who can help me08:11
junkyhow i can configure to good qualitiy08:12
junky?08:12
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ORiON-and the icons for example... r they look good?08:12
junkyyes08:12
ORiON-wonderboy... check if the system recognized your sound card08:12
wonderboyhow08:12
wonderboy?08:12
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ORiON-run lshw at console08:13
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ironfroggyhow to i get kprinter to configure the print server? it says i dont have access to do that, but i dont know how to get such access.08:13
junkywonderboy put alsamixer in konsole08:13
junkyan see if there are MM o OO08:13
junkyif there put MM= mute  and OO=on08:13
ORiON-it called kmixer08:14
wonderboyi don't know how to do it08:14
wonderboyi'm a beginer in linux08:14
ironfroggyim a member of the lpadmin group. what else do i need to do?08:14
junkyand me who i can confiure good qulity of pictures?08:15
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ORiON-wonder... press alt+f2 and run "kmix" from there08:15
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ORiON-u use kde right?08:15
wonderboyI write just like that?08:15
wonderboykmix08:15
ORiON-without ""08:15
wonderboy?08:15
ORiON-yup08:15
ganymed_i would like to switch to the console, but i get a graphics failure. i wanna know if this is due to the ati drivers or if the ttys are disabled anyway?08:15
wonderboydone08:16
wonderboyand then08:16
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ORiON-ganymed_ r u tring to switch with alt+ctrl+f#?08:16
judgenanyone got a troubleshooting page for the fglrx driver?08:16
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ORiON-unmute everything08:17
ORiON-raise the volume08:17
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paul___whats a good mp3 player for kubuntu? one of the ones it comes with, like amarok?08:20
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junkyand me?08:21
ORiON-amarok pwnz :p08:21
Zambermpd ownz ;P08:21
ORiON-very recommended08:21
ORiON-mpd?08:21
paul___ok well my sound isn't working.... how should I go about fixing this? drivers?08:21
Zamberyeah08:21
Zambermedia player daemon08:21
Zamberruns even if your X server is down :D08:22
ironfroggydoes cups have seperate user accounts or are the credentials it asks for the same as my normal accounts?08:22
ORiON-u mean MOC?08:22
Zamber!MOC08:22
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Zambergoogling ;p08:23
ORiON-aptitude it08:23
ORiON-the package called moc08:23
ORiON-and u run it with mocp08:23
ORiON-it doesnt require x as well08:23
ORiON-:p08:23
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Zambergot it08:23
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ORiON-mpd seems to be more advanced08:24
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Zambermpd is quite diffrent08:25
compilerwriterCan anyone help me with my blasted sound?  I can't seem to make it work reliably.08:25
Zamberit's very light08:25
paul___I can't get my sound to work either.08:25
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Zamberyou can install aditional stuf like mpc (for console comands) gmpc (a gnome GUI, works good on KDE too)08:26
ORiON-what did u already try?08:26
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paul___I haven't tried anything yet. I've had kubuntu for about 18 hours, and have no idea how to do anything. it took me about 2 hours to mount a drive :(08:26
ORiON-its ok08:27
compilerwriterIt works sometimes and sometimes it won't.  Sometimes if I futz with settings in kmix I get it working again but I need someone to show me how to get the damned thing to work reliably.  Hopefully you can help me learn to do it properly.08:27
Zamberpaul___ evruone had passed through this :D08:27
compilerwriterDon't feel badly paul___ you will get the hang of it.08:27
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RoboMoore|!dualscreen08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
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RoboMoore|!dual screen08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
compilerwriterI might have to look up how to mount a drive it has been so long08:28
Hawkwind!twinview | RoboMoore|08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
HawkwindErmmm08:28
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RoboMoore|danke Hawkwind08:28
ZamberRoboMoore| dualscreen is supported by the video card controller08:28
Hawkwind!twin view | RoboMoore|08:28
ubotutwin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-3 (edgy), package size 422 kB, installed size 1444 kB08:28
HawkwindGuess he doesn't know anything about it08:28
paul___I'm trying to open add/remove programs, and the computer says that another process is using the packaging system database. Is there any way to show a list of running processes?08:28
paul___because nothing is running that would use a packaging system database08:29
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compilerwriterThere is in a terminal window paul.08:29
RoboMoore|Zamber, there's been difficulty with the screens in the begining08:29
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paul___ok how do I do it in the terminal08:29
ZamberRoboMoore| it's normal ;)08:29
RoboMoore|thank you08:29
Zamberget your GC driver first ;)08:29
compilerwriterI can't think of it of the top my head though.  Give me minute to think.  Open up a terminal though.08:29
Zamberati or nvidia?08:29
tumlerpaul_: ps aux?08:29
paul___k08:29
RoboMoore|nvidia08:29
Zamber!nvidia08:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:30
Zamber;)08:30
RoboMoore|thank you Zamber08:30
Zamberyoure welcome ;)08:30
Zamberbrb08:30
Zamberxorg playtime ^^08:30
ORiON-hf08:31
ORiON-:p08:31
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paul___hey tumler just saw that, thanks08:32
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heinkel_111does anyone know of a good program to make a little bit more advanced screen slideshows?08:32
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heinkel_111i would like to have panning, zooming, rotating08:32
heinkel_111and synchronise to audio08:32
tumlerpaul_: np:)08:32
heinkel_111?08:32
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ORiON-did u try avidemux?08:34
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heinkel_111no08:35
heinkel_111do you think it is worth it?08:35
heinkel_111ORiON-: ^08:35
compilerwriterNow then could someone please help this newbie with his blased sound issues.08:35
ORiON-i never try it so i dont know for sure if it does the thing u just described...08:36
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ORiON-but give it a chance :p08:36
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fl1 i'm expereencing problems with the log in after a suspend to disk , my keebord doesn't seem to function animor when i restart the pc , all this after the last upgrade first it all worked perfectly , anyone has a clue on whats hapening?08:36
paul___agh. how can I figure out what running process is using the packaging database, if I can't see it running?08:36
manchickenfl1: You using fwcutter with a wifi card?08:36
ORiON-ps -aux as some1 already wrote before08:37
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ORiON-or what was the last package manager u used08:38
ZamberI'm down xD deleted GLcore from modules in xorg.conf and it's still loading08:38
paul___ps -aux gives a list of running processes. which one is using the packing systemdatabase?08:38
Zamber(EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)08:38
Zamber(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering08:38
Zamber(II) Loading local sub module "GLcore"08:38
manchickenpaul___: Grep for apt, dpkg, adept08:38
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ORiON-kpagkage...08:38
ORiON-kpackage08:39
manchickenZamber: Aren't proprietary drivers fun?08:39
Zamberoh yeah :D08:39
compilerwriterpaul do you know how to pipe the output to grep?08:39
ORiON-grep for synaptic too08:39
manchickenI avoid them like the plague.08:39
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paul___no compiler08:39
ZamberI have DRI running and my card detected corectly but this GL thing is annoying xD08:39
ORiON-ps -aux | grep synaptic08:40
manchickenPretty pictures aren't worth the trouble for me. heh08:40
ORiON-for example08:40
compilerwriterThanis orion08:40
compilerwriterThanks Orion.08:40
ZamberI'm tryingo to run AIGLX :P08:40
compilerwriterI didn't figure the newbie would necessarily know about the beauty of pipes yet.08:40
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larson9999errr, pipes aren't a new concept and not particular to linux08:41
Zamber:D08:41
compilerwriterThe beauty of linux paul is the output of most commands can be the input of the others.08:41
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manchickenThat has nothing to do with the kernel.08:42
manchickenThat's a function of the shell.08:42
compilerwriterTrue larson, but if paul has never played with a command line, as in dos, he would have no clue what one is.08:42
Zamberoh08:42
larson9999compilerwriter: nothing special about that either.  same goes for DOS08:42
paul___I tried writing that, it said 'bad syntax'08:43
compilerwriteronly that dos is not nearly as developed in the capacity.08:43
ORiON-larson how can i pipe at DOS?08:43
paul___ps -aux | grep synaptic08:43
manchickenPiping in shells is older than stink, and is not unique to something using a linux kernel.08:43
Zamberwell, it's sayd that ATI don;t works good with AIGLX08:43
compilerwriterTrue manchicken.08:43
Zamberbut I'll change it :P08:43
ORiON-try08:44
paul___well I'm going to try to restart. maybe that will fix the problem without me having to close a program manually08:44
ORiON-ps -aux | grep 'synaptic'08:44
compilerwriterI have a feeling that our friend Paul here might just be young enough to never have had to do it before.08:44
ORiON-PAUL08:44
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ORiON-noneed to restart08:44
paul___ok08:44
ORiON-this is not the way for solving problems :p08:44
paul___it says 'perhaps a bogus -?'08:45
compilerwriterThat is another beautiful thing about linux.  One rarely needs to restart the machine.08:45
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compilerwriterPaul try "ps aux | grep synaptic"  without the quotes of course08:45
ORiON-paul try08:45
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paul___ok that worked08:46
ORiON-ps -ax | grep 'synaptic'08:46
larson9999ORiON-: a lot like in linux.  for instance: dir | more08:46
paul___now should I stop that process?08:46
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ORiON-yup08:46
BluesKaj /var/lib/dpkg/ is locked up ...can't install or remove any pkgs with adept,apt or synaptic ...what's the unlock command again ?08:46
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heinkel_111is is http://winehq.org down?08:46
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Hawkwind!adept crash fix | BluesKaj08:46
ubotuBluesKaj: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'08:46
ORiON-lol its the same problem paul got08:46
BluesKajthx Hawkwind08:47
Hawkwindheinkel_111: Yes, it's down08:47
heinkel_111:(08:47
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ORiON-u can also kill the process that using it08:47
paul___ok so I killed the process, then grepped it again, and it just immediately started after I killed it08:47
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ORiON-how did u kill it?08:48
ORiON-or try to08:48
paul___sudo kill 632008:48
compilerwriterIn playing with kmix I have managed to get background noise out of the speakers.08:48
ORiON-start to mute things08:48
paul___should I do it another way08:48
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ORiON-until it will stop08:48
ORiON-u can kill it with08:48
BluesKajnope , din't work08:48
ORiON-killall -s KILL <process-name>08:48
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paul___oh I read the grep thing wrong- there is no synaptic process running.... the process was just me using the grep command08:50
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ORiON-LOL08:50
paul___what else could be using the package manager? apt? what else?08:50
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larson9999finally got a thin monitor.  has speakers embedded so i figured i'd gain desktop real estate and use them.  only problem is you can barely hear anything.08:51
ORiON-try to remmber what u used08:51
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manchickenapt, adept, dpkg...08:51
christianeHello. I just installed kubuntu 6.10 on a DELL Inspiron 6400 with ATI video (x1300 or x1400, I think). I installed the pkg xorg-fglrx-driver from restricted and even rebooted but the resolution is still vesa's 1024x768. What do I have to do now (don't wanna break anything ;_) )?08:51
larson9999maybe i'll see if windows still boots and if it's any louder there.08:51
manchickenIt could be adept-notifier.08:51
ORiON-nah08:51
paul___yeah there are 3 adept things running: adept_notifier, kdesu -u root -c kdesu adept_installer, and kdesu -u root kdesu adept08:52
manchickenchristiane: Not all ATIs are supported by ATI's proprietary drivers.  Check their list of supported cards for the one you're using.08:52
paul___should I kill them all?08:52
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ORiON-only the last one08:53
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manchickenchristiane: If you use the free software xorg drivers life will be much easier.  You won't get hardware 3d rendering, but you'll get a pretty decent 2d display.08:53
christianemanchicken: I ran fglrx successfully on this machine with dapper before but can't remember what exactly I did after installing fglrx (if any) ...08:53
manchickenchristiane: I'm one of the (un)?lucky people who is not supported by ATI... even though I'm sure they appreciated the money they made when I bought this laptop.08:54
paul___ah, still didn't work08:54
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ORiON-brb08:54
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christianemanchicken: When I open kde's control center -> screen/vga it says "vesa" there.08:55
larson9999i dumped my ati card as soon as i could find someone to tried for an nvidia.  i was having a time getting it installed until i followed the instructions in the 'unofficial ubuntu guide'.08:56
larson9999s/tried/trade/08:56
manchickenchristiane: Isn't vesa the free software 3d software rendering?08:56
paul___ok so I killed all the adept processes, there are no apt or dpkg processes, and it still doesn't work.08:56
christianemanchicken: Do I have to select the just installed fglrx driver?08:56
manchickenI won't use the non-free drivers for graphics cards.08:56
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manchickenchristiane: Dunno.  My card is supported and I wouldn't use their crap drivers even if I was.08:57
ORiON-i back08:57
ubuntu_could someone give me a shell comand please? im trying to mount my hard disk form live cd so that the hd icons on my desktop,its hd1 by the way08:57
christianemanchicken: Maybe I installed not the proprietary driver but xorg's, Where can I find this out?08:57
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[miles] hey guys08:58
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[miles] good evening08:58
ORiON-[21:56]  <larson9999> s/tried/trade/08:58
manchickenchristiane: I've never installed their crap drivers before, I really wouldn't know.08:58
ORiON-lol08:58
[miles] does anyone know htf to get the Sun Java 5 installer to accept the Ok to licence in Adept?08:58
[miles] damn thing wont acknowledge my keyboard08:58
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manchicken[miles] : Try cancelling and using apt-get directly.08:59
[miles] cant cancel08:59
[miles] only close window08:59
[miles] grrr08:59
manchickenxkill, clean things up, then apt-get09:00
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[miles] thats an anoying bug09:00
manchickenThat's the non-free installer, not adept.09:00
larson9999ORiON-: what's funny about that?09:00
compilerwriterDamn still no sound when I try to play video.09:00
manchickenBlame Sun, not Kubuntu.09:00
manchickenThe GPL'ed JRE will hopefully change things around.09:01
ORiON-nothing09:01
ORiON-u got style09:01
[miles] manchicken: dude, in Ubuntu it works fine09:01
ORiON-next time just make it perfect09:01
ORiON-sed -e 's/tried/trade/g'09:01
manchicken[miles] : It's the non-free installer trying to be interactive in a program that's trying to do things in an automated fashion that's the problem.09:02
junkywhat i have to do, to install .run program???09:02
junkyim new09:02
larson9999ORiON-: no need for the -e or g09:02
manchickenjunky: What program?09:02
compilerwriterany ideas orion where I having the conflict?09:02
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junkywolfenstain09:02
junkyenemy territori09:03
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ORiON--e? u must use it with sed if u want to sub09:03
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junky?09:03
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manchickenYou might want to ask their customer service, but most of the time those .run scripts are nothing but bash scripts.09:03
manchickenYou could just try doing sh ./file.run09:03
junky?09:03
junkyoks09:03
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manchickenBut there's no guarantee that'll work.09:04
manchickenIt might screw up your system if they packaged it poorly.09:04
ORiON-complilerwrite? what conflict?09:04
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junky...09:04
larson9999ORiON-: like i said.  no need for it09:04
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ORiON-try to run it without -e09:04
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ORiON-"unterminated `s' command"09:05
larson9999ORiON-: jason@jasonntu:~$ echo 'tried tried' |sed 's/tried/trade/'09:05
larson9999trade tried09:05
paul___ok.... I logged out and logged back in, and I still can't run adept or add/remove programs because some other process is using the packaging system database. I don't even remember what program I wanted to get.09:05
junkyThis installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown09:06
junkythis says09:06
compilerwriterI can't seem to get sound to work when I try to play mpeg.09:06
manchickenjunky: Contact the people who sold you that game and get support from them on that then.09:07
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larson9999paul___: what message to you get?09:07
manchickenIf they don't support your version of glibc it may be considerably unstable.09:07
larson9999paul___: did you try 'sudo apt-get update' ?09:07
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paul___when I tried that, it says 'dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem09:09
manchickenjunky: Now you've discovered why I only use non-free games on gaming appliance devices, such as consoles.09:09
manchicken^_^09:09
paul___ok, I just did that09:09
larson9999paul___: then do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'09:09
larson9999paul___: after that try 'sudo apt-get update'  again09:10
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paul___ok that worked09:10
paul___and... problem solved! thanks!09:10
larson9999paul___: i'm guessing adept will work now?09:10
paul___what did that do? update the apt-get program?09:10
paul___yes it does09:10
christianemanchicken: I found a wiki entry and edited xorg.conf manually and now it works. I think the drivers from xorg don't support my card. I don't need 3D but I need a clear 1280x800 screen. Do you think that's possible with gpl drivers?09:11
larson9999paul___: adept is basicall a gui for apt-get09:11
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paul___ah ok09:11
manchickenchristiane: xorg drivers should work with a wide-screen 15"09:11
larson9999paul___: so you can do what you do with adept via apt. only quicker09:12
paul___oh, I get it09:12
manchickenchristiane: they work just fine with my 17" wide.09:12
paul___does add/remove programs also use apt?09:12
manchickenI'm in 1440x90009:12
christianemanchicken: wow? How to set this resolution?09:12
larson9999paul___: yeah09:12
manchickenpaul___: Anything that installs programs from repositories or .debs uses the dpkg/apt database.09:12
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manchickenchristiane: Use kubuntu's control panel.09:13
christianemanchicken: Ok. What's the driver's name?09:13
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paul___now onto the next problem: amarok won't play my mp3 files. Gaim and the terminal make little noises, so my sound definately works- does it matter that the mp3s I want are on an NTFS partition?09:13
larson9999paul___: apt-get update updates the database of packages that are available in the list of repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list09:14
manchickenchristiane: Did you use the kubuntu device database?09:14
larson9999paul___:  do a 'man apt' and or 'man apt-get' for more info09:14
christianemanchicken: control panel says "detected card: ati radeon (fbdev)". Should I try this09:14
manchickenchristiane: I'm not sure if my ATI will use the same driver as yours.09:14
manchickenSure.09:14
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manchickenWhat've you got to lose?09:14
junkywhat i have to do if when i try to run a .run program say:09:14
christianemanchicken: ;-)09:15
junkyThis installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 linux09:15
paul___ok I will larson09:15
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manchickenjunky: that is a proprietary program.  There is something broken in the install script.  It would be illegal for you to modify it, and illegal for us to help you modify it.  You should contact the customer support department of whatever entity you obtained that program from for support.09:16
junky??09:16
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manchickenjunky: Did you read the license agreement that came with that program?09:16
larson9999unless you're some fanatical, everything must be libre, kinda guy, i suggest you use the 3d drivers.  even for non-3d intensive stuff there is usually a noticeable speed increase09:16
johny454hey everybody09:16
christianemanchicken: If I select "ati fbdev" a select field is activated and asks "Standard" or "proprietary". Is there a prop. version of xorg's ati drv?09:16
christianemanchicken: And which one to select here?09:17
manchickenchristiane: I'd use the standard one.09:17
christianeok09:17
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johny454Where can i find the languages avaible in Kubuntu?09:17
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larson9999christiane and manchicken did you guys follow the instructions in the unofficial ubuntu guide for installing ati drivers?  so far i haven't found anyone for which that didn't work.09:17
manchickenlarson9999: Proprietary drivers tend to be crap.  Freedom and ethical concerns aside, these hardware vendors do not care about anything outside of windows.  It is foolish to trust anything that comes out of them.09:18
manchickenlarson9999: Not all cards are supported uniformly.09:18
manchickenEspecially not with ATI.09:18
ubuntu_what am i doing wrog? trying  to mount my hd.09:18
larson9999manchicken: bollocks!  the proprietary drivers for nvidia and ati are better in terms of performance.  not even close09:18
larson9999 even if i don't know how to spell bollocks09:18
ubuntu_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1/media09:18
ubuntu_mount: can't find /dev/hda1/media in /etc/fstab or /etc/mta09:18
christianelarson9999: I folloed the instructions I found in a (German) wiki on wiki.ubuntuusers.de: Installing fglrx and editing xorg.conf ...09:19
manchickenlarson9999: Not stability.09:19
manchickenlarson9999: Or security.09:19
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larson9999christiane: was it the german version of this? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy09:20
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manchickenlarson9999: They enable hardware rendering (that would be HARDWARE performance, not DRIVER performance) but they do nothing but cause grief for many users.09:20
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larson9999christiane: there is a dapper version too if you're using that.09:20
manchickenlarson9999: Installing proprietary drivers when free ones are available is often times a bad idea.  Kernel hackers have no idea how to maintain compatibility and driver maintainers seldom work to ensure compatibility.09:21
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ORiON-ubuntu_ u got missing parts09:21
ORiON-at your command09:21
is"[22:18]  <larson9999> christiane and manchicken did you guys follow the instructions in the unofficial ubuntu guide for installing ati drivers?  so far i haven't found anyone for which that didn't work." not quite right,  there is some problems09:21
ORiON-       The standard form of the mount command, is09:21
ORiON-              mount -t type device dir09:21
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larson9999manchicken: i've been installing video card drivers in linux for a decade now on many, many machines.  i have a decent handle on the open vs closed drivers.09:22
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ubuntu_ORiON-, like what?09:22
ORiON-the type of your partition09:22
manchickenlarson9999: I disagree.09:22
ORiON-mountpoint09:22
larson9999is: maybe there are problems.  i've followed it and installed ati drivers on 50+ machines of difference makes and models.09:22
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BluesKajtrying to remove the flashplayer9 so i can revert to vers 7 (that works ) but adept is frozen at 11% uninstall ...what's the force uninstall command?09:22
larson9999manchicken: you're free to disagree.  at least in much of the world.09:23
manchickenlarson9999: I don't believe what you just claimed is possible.09:23
manchickenI don't believe there are more than 50 variants of ATI drivers.09:23
larson9999manchicken: what's not possible?09:23
islarson9999:  =) right amd64 + update dapper to edgy ... this made my system totally f&%$^d reinstalled at least 5 times09:24
manchickenHow could you have worked with 50+ ATI drivers if there aren't 50+ ATI drivers in existence?09:24
larson9999manchicken: makes and models of computers.  but more than 50 machines.  not all were different models.09:24
ciccio_Hello to all! I have recently switched to kubuntu from fedora09:24
islarson9999:  without update there is really no problem, thet's true09:24
christianelarson9999 (manchicken): I only missed the `aticonfig ...` part. What does this do?09:25
manchickenYeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Many of ATI's cards are still not supported (most mobile radeons are not supported).09:25
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ciccio_could someone help me? with the basic?09:25
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ciccio_how can i understand if 3d acceleration works? (first question)09:25
larson9999manchicken: you buy hw that isn't supported?09:25
ubuntu_i just tryed the -t ,but it still didint mount it to /media.what didi you mean aboute the file system?think its ext3?or whatever kubuntu uses automaticly09:26
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ORiON-sudo fdisk -l09:26
notechsercik: glxinfo | grep -i rendering, if it says yes then you have 3D09:26
larson9999christiane: updates xorg.conf.  i don't use it.09:27
daedrawhat the hell is ddate about09:27
sercikthank you notech09:27
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christianelarson9999: Ok, that's what I did manually ...09:27
serciktell direct rendering yes09:27
sercikbut is there some 3d apllication that give me fps or similar?09:27
christianesercik: run glxgears if you want to test if it works ...09:27
serciki have tried glxgears09:28
larson9999is: have you migrated to 64 bit?09:28
sercikbut gears is very slow and in console there aren't fps09:28
ORiON-try glxgears -printfps09:28
ubuntu_/dev/hda1   *           1         125       62968+  83  Linux09:28
larson9999manchicken: i agree.  trying to use a proprietary driver to supported hw it doesn't support doesn't make much sense.09:28
ubuntu_/dev/hda2             126        1118      500472   82  Linux swap / Solaris09:29
sercik72831 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14566.197 FPS is good?09:29
ubuntu_/dev/hda3            1119      116280    58041648   83  Linux09:29
larson9999manchicken: in that case, i'd recommend the libre 2d driver09:29
ubuntu_think its hda309:29
ubuntu_thats the big one right?09:29
johny454Where I can find the languages that are available for Kubuntu??09:29
sercikunder system --> language support09:29
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larson9999christiane: and while many her might shudder at the thought.  i usually reboot after installing a new video driver.09:30
ORiON-yea09:30
sercikorion yes is for me?09:30
paul___question: I cannot get mp3s to run in kaffeine, or amarok- and I have the latest version of both. What could I do to fix this?09:30
sercikyea is for me?09:30
johny454sercik: but non having installed the system?09:30
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ORiON-nop09:30
islarson9999:  yep.  now i'm thinkin'bout migrate to x86. too much problems on 64bit os09:30
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ORiON-sercik09:31
larson9999is: i figured i'd wait for 64bit.  seems others are having enough headaches for me.09:31
manchickenis: What problems?09:31
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ORiON-never saw such a result09:31
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sercikplease help! qhen i press alt+F2 nothing happens09:31
johny454sercik: if i don't have kubuntu installed, what then?09:31
sercikwhy?09:31
HymnToLifemanchicken, depends on what you do with09:31
ORiON-i got around 100009:31
serciki have kubuntu installed and running09:31
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sercikand i'm using konversation now09:32
manchickenWell what causes problems?09:32
larson9999manchicken: i'm working 70 hours a week.  a few problems on my home machine would be way too many at the moment.09:32
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ORiON-and u ask me if 14000+ is good... i think it is :p09:32
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johny454but me know, just i was just trying to obtain whether there are some translations for Kubuntu as for Ubuntu09:32
notechgood depnds on the hardware, and glxgears isn't really meant as a benchmarking tool09:33
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ORiON-u mean translation for kde?09:33
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johny454yeah09:33
ubuntu_orion no luck with sudo mount -t /dev/hda3/media09:33
ORiON-there r many09:33
isgot probs with aome distros. no w32codecs, but i found the way to fix it, no java plugin for my firefox, and so..09:33
ORiON-ubuntu_09:33
sercikjohny09:33
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johny454 couldn't find this info one the official website of Kubuntu09:34
larson9999notech: yeah but it's an ok cursory idea09:34
larson9999paul___: you need codecs09:34
ORiON-wait a min...09:34
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sercikif you go into kde menu system language you can choose many langiages09:34
danny_hey can someone tell me what lib i need to burn mp3's as regular audio in k3b09:34
sercikthen adept will download language pack for you!09:34
notechubuntu_: not sure what you are doing, but there is a space before /media and it should be a mountpoint like /media/something09:35
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fdovingdanny_: you need the package: libk3b2-mp309:35
larson9999christiane: that working for you?09:35
fred__how do you add spanish accents in kubuntu?09:35
danny_oh ya cool thanx i always forget09:35
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islarson9999:  got probs with some distros. no w32codecs, but i found the way to fix it, no java plugin for my firefox, can't get normal support ... and so on09:36
sercikwhich is the correct repository for compiz?09:36
notechubuntu_: and -t means filesystem type so either specify a type or use -t auto09:36
ubuntu_i cant just mount it to /media?09:36
sercikanother: how can i enable syntax highlighting in vim?09:36
fdovingsercik: :syntax on09:36
larson9999is: yeah but i didn't ask :)09:36
notechubuntu_: no, have you looked in /media? you'll see other mountpoints in there09:36
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ubuntu_none just a ipod09:37
ubuntu_im on a live cd09:37
fdovingsercik: or put 'syntax on' in ~/.vimrc09:37
roothi, i tried to startup and when my computer was booting it got stuck at a black screen with a white cursor line in the top left corner, the onlyway i was able to start up was to go into the grub and user recovery mode then startx form the terminal, does anyone know what is wrong and how i can fix it09:37
serciktell: this command is not available in this version09:37
manchickenroot: Are you IRCing as root?09:37
larson9999has 'deb' always used /media or is that a ubuntu thing09:37
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fdovingsercik: check that you have the real vim installed. packagename 'vim', the 'vim-tiny'09:38
fdovingsercik: does not provide all fancy functions.09:38
rootmanchicken: yes09:38
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manchickenroot: Don't do that.  Switch to a user account.09:38
rooti cant09:38
manchickenNEVER use IRC as root.09:38
manchickenWhy not?09:38
rootthats the problem09:38
rootit wont let me09:39
manchickenYou typed `su - USER` and it failed?09:39
rooti can switch user, but theni cant startx09:39
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serciki have done spt-get install vim09:39
manchickenthen use a text-mode IRC client until you can.09:39
manchickenIt is INSANELY risky to IRC as root.09:39
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daedrawhat are some good terminal IRC clients?09:40
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sercikplease how can i enable alt+F2 in kde?09:40
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manchickeniirc, bitchx, emacs with erc09:40
rooti dont know how to run irc in terminal09:40
fdovingdaedra: irssi, it's installed by default.09:40
daedranicccce09:40
fdovingroot: run the command 'irc' iirc.09:41
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manchickenroot: `apt-get install bitchx && bitchx`09:41
christianemanchicken, (larson9999): fbdev as driver froze my whole system (couldn't even switch to tty1). So I'm back on fglrx now.09:41
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manchickenchristiane: Wouldn't it be nice if hardware manufacturers actually released specs so that people could write proper drivers?  That would be so nice.09:42
ubuntu_the ubuntu live cd wont let me make a folder in /media that i can mount to09:42
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sercikfdoving: .vimrc doesn't exists09:43
isDlarson9999:  my bad. probably manchicken confused me. =)  sorry...09:43
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ReTyPei am using ubuntu with kde, but my firefox still looks like it comes from gnome, can i change this ?09:43
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larson9999christiane: fglrx not good enough for you?09:44
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christianemanchicken: I agree. That would be nice. And I wish I had the tight hardware.09:44
christianes/tight/right/09:44
fdovingsercik: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts -> under 'desktop' find 'Run Command' and set the key combo to 'Alt+F2'.09:44
fdovingsercik: if .vimrc doesn't exist, create it.09:45
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sercikok09:45
fdovingReTyPe: yes, you can do some hacks.09:45
sercikthe exact syntax to put into .vimrc?09:45
soulriderhi everyone09:45
fdovingsercik: 'syntax on' without the quotes.09:45
christianelarson9999: I ran `glxgears -printfps` and it shows me 155 fps and f*** slow moving animation (cpu usage 100% by xorg). When the glxgears window is not visible it speeds up to 1000+ fps. What's wrong here?09:45
serciki have already tried syntax=on but doesn't work09:45
larson9999christiane: these days, 'tight' also fits :)09:45
sercik:) i'm not stupid!09:46
soulrideri just formatted one of my hard drives, it had windows in it. I dont know whyt but i had to reinstall grub. Now i see ht ekubuntu splash screen and then i get "coundt access tty: job control is off"09:46
sercikwithout quotes :)09:46
fdoving!firefox kde | retype09:46
uboturetype: Go to http://konquefox.free.fr/ for tips and tricks on making Firefox more KDE-friendly.09:46
soulriderdoes anoyne know whats wrong ?09:46
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larson9999christiane: there is always the ,"don't use glxgears as a benchmark" thing09:46
sercikgreat now works thank you!09:46
fdovingsercik: you're welcome.09:46
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sercikalt +F2 don't work please help!!!09:47
soulrider!tty09:47
ubotuTo get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).09:47
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fdovingsercik: i just told you how to solve that. read back please.09:47
sercikexcuse me09:47
christianeIs there a better tool than glxgears for testing if 3D is activated?09:48
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soulriderfdoving: did you read my error? do you know whats wrong ?09:49
soulrideri cant access the kubuntu installation on my HD< im on the live CD now09:49
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sercikwas mapped win+r strange!09:49
fdovingchristiane: depends.. you can use glxinfo | grep -i rendering09:49
fdovingsoulrider: do you have the exact error message?09:49
soulrideryes09:49
sercikvwry good  already two problem solved09:50
soulrideri see the splash and then an error screen that sais09:50
serciki like very much ubuntu people :)09:50
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soulrider i get: /bin/sh cant access tty. job control is off09:50
christianefdoving: direct rendering: No. Mmh ... Doesn't sound that nice ...09:50
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fdovingchristiane: then you know it doesn't work. when it says 'Yes' it works.09:51
christianefdoving: ;-)09:51
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fdovingsoulrider: where was the partition you deleted located? before the kubuntu partitions?09:51
christianefdoving: How can I activate it? (Using fglrx drivers)09:51
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roothi, i have a problem, when i boot up all i get is a black screen with a white line in the topleft corner, the only way i can even start the computer is to go under recovery mode and startx from there, can someone please help09:52
soulrideruhm, yeah09:52
soulriderthe number yes09:52
soulriderbut i reinstalled grub and everything09:52
christianeBut now for something completely different. The reason I switched to Edgy was the missing support of my wireless card in Dapper. So I'm completely new to WLAN on kubuntu (and linux). How to activate it?09:53
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fdovingsoulrider: doesn't always matter. if you deleted a partiton without re-partitioning the space, the numbers in /etc/fstab are possibly wrong.09:53
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fdoving!wireless | christiane09:54
ubotuchristiane: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:54
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hex_st0rm!pastebin09:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:54
christianefdoving: Thanks.09:54
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soulrideri actually split a partition09:55
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fdovingchristiane: as for the fglrx drivers, i always recommend using the kanotix scripts, from a terminal session run: wget http://kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh ; chmod 755 install-fglrx-debian.sh; sudo ./install-fglrx-debian.sh09:55
soulriderfdoving: kubuntu is in sda5 i formatted sda309:55
fdovingsoulrider: if you split sda3, that would explain it.09:56
fdovingsoulrider: are you on a livecd now?09:56
soulrideryes09:56
fdovingsoulrider: check 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda'09:56
fdovingor use qtparted.09:56
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soulriderid rather use qtparted09:56
aleksanterii need help again :D09:57
roothi, i have a problem, when i boot up all i get is a black screen with a white line in the topleft corner, the only way i can even start the computer is to go under recovery mode and startx from there, can someone please help09:57
aleksanteriit doesn't boot i guess09:57
soulriderfdoving: i see the partitons09:57
fdovingsoulrider: are they in the correct order?09:57
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soulrideri just realized i didnt format them09:58
soulrideri got09:58
ubuntu_shit i gusse i cant mount to that folder09:58
soulriderlinux in sda5, its allways been in sda509:58
fdovingsoulrider: you didn't split anything?09:58
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soulrideri did, but i didnt format them09:58
soulriderim making them ext 3 now09:59
sercikk09:59
fdovingsoulrider: splitting is what breaks things.. formatting doesn't..09:59
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soulrideroh09:59
soulriderok09:59
serciksomeone of us use konversation?09:59
aleksanterihey i need to know my NVIDIA driver identifier, how can i get that (WIN XP)09:59
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soulrideri use konversation09:59
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serciksoulrider some like perform in mirc?09:59
BluesKaj still can't get rid of the flashplayer ...error message; run dpkg --configure -a..so i do and the damn thing is still there10:00
serciki want to identify in automatic10:00
soulrideri dont think theres mirc for linux =/10:00
sercikok10:00
soulriderfdoving: how can i fix my issue ?10:00
serciki want to tell:10:00
bXiyou could use wine to run mirc of course10:00
sercika function that execute at startup some command10:00
serciklike do perform on mirc10:01
BluesKajsercik, use konversation .. it's VG10:01
fdovingsoulrider: first, you need to know what the new name of your linux partition is, if you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' i'll help you pick.10:01
aleksanteri i need to know my NVIDIA driver identifier, how can i get that (WIN XP)10:01
sercikVG?10:01
fdovingsercik: very good.10:01
soulriderits /dev/sda510:02
sercikok10:02
sercikoooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk i use konversation10:02
paul___what is a good podcast program for linux?10:02
sercikbut i need to launch some command on startup10:02
serciklike join some channel and identify my nick10:02
BluesKajpodcast smodcast use amc10:02
BluesKaja mac10:02
Lynourepaul___: I use ipodder/juice but it has some bugs10:02
soulrider!pastebin10:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:03
Lynourepaul___: or a bug that irritates me, rather, have not ran into others10:03
sercik!pastebin10:03
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roothi, i have a problem, when i boot up all i get is a black screen with a white line in the topleft corner, the only way i can even start the computer is to go under recovery mode and startx from there, can someone please help10:03
Lynourepaul___: Try it? The bug is that it freezes on second adding of a new cast from its directory tab.10:03
aleksanteri i need to know my NVIDIA driver identifier, how can i get that (WIN XP)10:04
soulrider!pastebin10:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:04
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aleksanteriplz?10:04
fdoving!repeat | aleksanteri10:04
ubotualeksanteri: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience10:04
soulriderfdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36324/10:05
aleksanteri!patience10:05
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:05
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paul___lynoure: this is a dumb question, but how do I run juice once I install it? it isn't in the k-menu..10:05
fdovingsoulrider: sda3, sda4 and sda5 are linux partitions.10:05
soulrideryes10:06
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fdovingsoulrider: sda3 was the one you split?10:06
soulriderbut sda5 holds kubuntu10:06
soulrideryes10:06
soulrider3 was FAT, i split it into 2 ext310:06
BluesKaj still can't get rid of the flashplayer ...error message; run dpkg --configure -a.. no luck, it's still there ...any ideas ?10:06
fdovingBluesKaj: what error message?10:06
fdovingsoulrider: ok. so sda5 has always been sda5?10:06
BluesKajfdoving, dpkg --configure -a10:06
soulrideryes10:07
BluesKajfdoving, it tells me to run it10:07
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fdovingBluesKaj: that's the command.. can you pastebin the error message? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:07
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Lynourepaul___: you can add it there yourself, but on dapper typing  ipodder  does it10:07
paul___what is dapper?10:07
fdoving!dapper | paul___10:07
ubotupaul___: dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".10:07
LjL!dapper | paul___10:07
paul___oh ok10:07
Lynourepaul___: ubuntu lts version10:07
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BluesKajfdoving, it tells me to run it that comnd10:08
paul___oh10:08
paul___is there a gui for juice?10:08
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Lynourepaul___: it is juice10:08
fdovingsoulrider: ok. go to a konsole session. run 'sudo mkdir -p /media/root; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/root'10:08
Lynourepaul___: just with the old name10:08
christianeAnyone an idea for dmesg's "bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed."?10:08
fdovingsoulrider: now, you linux system should be mounted to /media/root10:08
soulriderok10:09
fdovingchristiane: yes, you're missing the bcm43xx firmware.10:09
aleksanteribrb10:09
soulrideri did that to restore grub earlier10:09
aleksanteribecause10:09
aleksanteri'Identifier"NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] "'10:09
aleksanterii found it :D10:09
Lynourepaul___: and if you meant to ask, isn't it graphical. Yes, it is but you can launch it from command line, of course10:09
christianefdoving: Thanks. I'll look if there's a pkg ...10:09
fdovingsoulrider: ok. check /media/root/etc/fstab, is sda5 listed as / ?10:09
paul___ah ok10:09
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fdovingchristiane: there is. bcm43xx-fwcutter10:09
roothi, i have a problem, when i boot up all i get is a black screen with a white line in the topleft corner, the only way i can even start the computer is to go under recovery mode and startx from there, can someone please help10:09
CaBlGuY!googleearth10:09
ubotuGoogle Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html10:09
paul___I launched juice from a command line, and it was kind of graphical10:09
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paul___now im downloading ipodder though10:10
fdovingchristiane: it's in universe, after it's installed run 'sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh' from a konsole session.10:10
sercikt10:10
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paul___ok cool-- how do I add ipodder to the k-menu??10:11
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christianefdoving: Ok, I installed it and will now run the script. Thank you.10:11
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serciki have always used red-hat derivates (rpm) now which is the command like rpm -qpl packagename.rpm? in kubuntu?10:12
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soulrideroh no, sda6 appears as root10:12
fdovingroot: try to reboot your computer, at the grub screen, navigate to the non-recovery mode kernel entry. do not hit enter, hit 'e' isntead, now you'll be able to edit the commandline arguments sendt to the kernel at boot time. use the arrow keys to navigate to the far right side, remove 'quiet' and 'splash' and hit 'b' (if i remember correct) to boot.10:12
fdovingsoulrider: then edit the fstab file to match your current setup.10:13
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soulriderallright, i did10:13
soulriderim gonna test :)10:13
soulriderthank you!10:13
fdovingsercik: what does -qpl do? query package list? list files in a package?10:13
jongtwhy isn 915resolution in adept?10:13
rootok, will try that10:13
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inetprosercik: List files in <pkg-file>?10:14
inetprosercik: dpkg-deb -c <pkg-file>10:14
inetprosercik: see also: http://nakedape.cc/wiki/PackageManagerCheatsheet10:15
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MurchadhI have two Kubuntu installs, 6.06 and 6.10. They both name eth0 and eth1 differently (6.10 has reversed their order). How do I change them back?10:19
sercikinetpro i want to know which files have installed an package.deb10:19
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sercikyuor solution is to know which files are contained is a file that you want to install10:20
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daveGUYS!!! i have a giant problem10:20
serciki have tried dpkg -l kdemultimeida but it lists only directory10:21
inetprosercik: you want to know what package a file depends on?10:21
sercikno no10:21
daveso, i installed this login (kdm) theme10:21
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Admiral_Chicagodave, okay10:21
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sercikexample i want to destry juk noatun etc. i want to know which packages contain it!10:22
soulriderfdoving: didnt work10:22
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daveand then everytime i start up, it says that it doesnt contain a login/password box10:22
serciki think is kdemultimedia already installed10:22
sercikbut to be sure i want to ask10:22
Admiral_Chicago!seen Jucato10:22
ubotuI last saw Jucato (n=jucato@124.106.178.61) 3h 56m 39s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection10:22
fdovingsoulrider: ok. check ubuntuforums.org I have to go watch tv with gf.10:22
sercikbefore uninstall it10:22
soulriderk, have fun10:22
Admiral_Chicagoah he may be asleep10:22
daveso i'm using the failsafe login to alk to you.... anyways, whats the command for the login window manager10:22
TheGateKeeperhiya Admiral_Chicago10:22
soulriderahh Admiral_Chicagomaybe you know my error10:22
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soulrideri see my kubuntu splash screen, but then i get an error saying: /bin/sh couldnt access tty: job control off10:23
Admiral_Chicagodave, i don't understand, what are you trying to do10:23
soulriderdave, try kdeinit10:23
inetprosercik: sorry10:24
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, sounds like something is trying to run but can't communicate with X10:24
davewell, go to the k menu, then go to settings(i think) then find the program that says login manager10:24
paul___how do I install something for a tar.gz file?10:24
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soulriderAdmiral_Chicago: i got it after i split one of my partitions10:24
daveand find the command that the program is10:24
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, have you tried fsck10:24
sercikinetpro sorry for what :)10:24
soulridererr10:25
soulridernope10:25
inetprosercik: sorry for not able to help on that10:25
soulrideri found something on the forums10:25
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inetprosercik: i normally use aptitude in stead of apt-get10:25
fdovingsoulrider: echekc http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29253310:25
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, does X start?10:25
fdovingsoulrider: i mean *check10:25
davecan someone just please go to the k menu, go to settings, find the gnome login manager, and find the comand that runs it so i can run it myself, and fix this silly problem10:26
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Admiral_Chicagodave, you want gdm?10:26
davei'm not sure10:26
soulriderfdoving: im opening the link10:26
soulriderAdmiral_Chicago: im not sure10:26
davei believe that might be it10:26
Admiral_Chicagodave, okay hold on a sec, please me specific about what you want to do10:27
davego to the kmenu10:27
davego to setting10:27
Admiral_Chicagoyes10:27
davefind the gnome login manager10:27
davethen figure out what the console command for it is10:27
Admiral_Chicagogdm. okay10:27
Ash-FoxAnyone happen to know why a wmv video displays just fine in mplayer but not in xine? I mean, they're both using the same Microsoft DLLs to decode stuff... :/10:27
Admiral_Chicagodave, sudo apt-get install gdm10:27
Admiral_Chicagoor sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm10:27
twosouls82Ash-Fox: the newest mplayer uses a special lib for it, not the codecs10:28
Admiral_Chicagoor sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm10:28
davealright, if thats not it i'm going to be back10:28
Ash-Foxtwosouls82, ah, I see.10:28
LjLand VLC can also play (some) WMV without the win32 codecs10:28
twosouls82indeed LjL, using the same lib10:28
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fdovingsercik: juk and noatun are separate packages, but the meta-package kdemultimedia depends on them. you can check reverse depends with 'apt-cache rdepends <packagename>'10:28
inetprosercik: see also http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude.php10:28
inetprosercik: don't know if it will help in this specific case10:29
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eilker!Conky10:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Conky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:29
twosouls82Ash-Fox: use kmplater :)10:29
twosouls82kmplayer*10:29
LjL!conky10:29
paul___do any of the linux media programs play .avi files encoded in divx?10:29
ubotuconky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB10:29
sercikok10:30
LjLuh... yeah10:30
LjLUbotu, tell paul___ about divx | paul___, see the private message from Ubotu10:30
sercikthanks to all10:30
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twosouls82paul___: yeah, which not?10:30
serciki have used the search function on synaptic10:30
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sercikto find what yoy have already told10:30
sercikjuk and notun azre separated package10:30
sercikgreat people here!!!10:30
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eilkerLjL: i have no idea for conky and torsmo, which one do u suggest to use ?10:31
inetprosercik: i also moved from redhat to kubuntu and i'm here to stay... :)10:32
LjLeilker: i barely know what the former is, and have no idea what the latter is10:32
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sercikgood10:32
eilkerLjL: i see, thank you10:32
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inetprosercik: of course we don't want to start a distro war...10:34
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eilker!torsmo10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about torsmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
twosouls82!jameskim10:36
ubotujameskim is CNET senior editor who went missing and was later found dead in the snow in southern Oregon.  See http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,72253-0.html?tw=wn_culture_1, http://news.com.com/2009-12-6141617.html?tag=cnetfd.ld1, http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9667036-1.html?subj=Crave&part=rss&tag=feed&tag=cnetfd.blog10:36
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christiane_!xvid10:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:36
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harmentalwhere are icon images usually stored in kubuntu?10:40
twosouls82in /usr/share/icons10:40
markelhashi ppl can anyone help me out share my printer to a kubuntu and a windows machine?10:40
coreymon77hey guys10:40
harmentaltwosouls82: Thx!!!10:41
coreymon77what are the kde 3.5.5 repos?10:41
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Admiral_Chicago!share10:42
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Admiral_Chicagoerr no10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
Admiral_Chicago!print10:42
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows10:42
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Admiral_Chicagomarkelhas, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows10:43
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twosouls82np harmental10:43
daveok, so my bloody login kdm deal doesnt work still10:43
markelhasAdmiral_Chicago: i've my printer installed on a kubuntu machine and i want to share it to another kubuntu machine and a windows machine too10:43
davei get the message "The greeter theme is corrupt:  The them does not contain definitions for the username/password entry element"  when I click ok, it says "There was an error loading the them and the default theme could not be loaded.  Attempting to start the standard greeter."  at this point, there is just a blank screen... I'm assuming the standard greeter doesn't work.10:45
coreymon77guys10:45
coreymon77are there kde 3.5.5 repos for edgy10:45
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coreymon77cause my friend has edgy but not 35510:45
coreymon77he has 3.5.210:45
daveanyways, i have one idea for a solution... and your help will require minimal effort.  Simply go to the k menu, click settings, find the gnome login manager, and find the command for starting it.  This way i will be able to run it in the failsafe konsole that i am currently running.10:46
Whopperyup10:46
twosouls82handy that axel app for slow ftp servers.. why didn't I think of it earlier =)10:46
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reldruhhello10:46
reldruhI'm trying to install the Serenity theme in kubuntu, but the only download I find at kde-look is a source download, rpm and ebuild. Can anybody point me in the right direction?10:47
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daveplease, someone just click the kmenu and figure out the command for me10:48
twosouls82reldruh: use checkinstall to create a packae of your own.. that is if you can't find a package... read the README of it before use10:48
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reldruhtwosouls82: thanks. I'll take a look at it now10:49
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twosouls82reldruh: goodluck.. it is dandy handy for UNOFFICIAL packages10:50
Admiral_Chicagomarkelhas, sorry i'm not much of a printer perosn10:50
Admiral_Chicagodave, i'm sorry i'm not on my KDE machine right now, i'm on GNOME10:51
davewell, you can still assist me10:51
Admiral_Chicagohow is that?10:51
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daveits a gnome app that i'm looking for, not a kde10:51
trikii might be able to10:51
trikinm10:51
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markelhasAdmiral_Chicago: i think with the link u gave me i'll manage to do it10:51
markelhasAdmiral_Chicago: thnks10:51
davei'd be able to tell you the exact name of the program i'm looking for, but i cant get into the gui10:52
reldruhtwosouls82: I feel dumb. A theme is just a package, huh? That's what I didn't get. I thought it was like a wallpaper, something I download, then apply in a preference dialog. But it has to be installed, just like any other package. I wonder why it wouldn't be in the repositories, though10:52
Admiral_Chicagomarkelhas, no problem, there is great documentation, just google around or check out help.ubuntu.com10:52
MattSGanyone know why I can't ping or connect to 192.168.0.*, even my gateway?10:52
daveits just something along the lines of a login display manager10:52
MattSGusing a Broadcom wireless card10:52
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trikiMattSG: what is your default gw ip ?10:52
jasinHow do I apply a kernel patch?10:52
Admiral_Chicagodave, you are looking for gdm10:53
markelhasAdmiral_Chicago: resolved on kubuntu machine now going to try in windows machine10:53
twosouls82reldruh: not every app that exists is being packed... what theme?10:53
Admiral_Chicago!info gdm10:53
ubotugdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 12300 kB10:53
reldruhtwosouls82: serenity10:53
jasinkubuntu dont use gnome10:53
davei dont think its gdm10:53
trikikdm10:53
davei have kubuntu and ubuntu installed10:53
daveor kdm10:53
jasindave, why?10:54
Admiral_Chicagodave, gdm and kdm are the log in managers10:54
daveits this thing where you can alter the login window with different things10:54
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davedifferent themes that is10:54
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twosouls82reldruh: pm10:54
MattSGdefault gateway IP is 192.168.0.110:54
trikikdm theme manager ?10:54
daveand as for why i have both, sometimes i'm in a gnome mood, sometimes a kde mood10:54
trikiMattSG: what is the ip your wireless nic has ?10:54
trikiMattSG: do a ifconfig and see10:54
jasinKDM (KDE Display Manager) is a graphical login interface for computers using Unix-like operating systems. It is the K Desktop Environment replacement for XDM, the default X display manager. KDM allows users to pick their session type on a per-login basis.10:55
reldruhtwosouls82: 'Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems'10:55
davereally, just go to the k menu, go to settings, then find something called something along the lines of the login manager10:55
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twosouls82reldruh: you are not regged?10:55
reldruhtwosouls82: no10:56
twosouls82:)10:56
jasinok, no one answered my question10:56
twosouls82damn10:56
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daveyou see, the problem started when i installed a login theme... it doesnt work i now realize10:56
coreymon77guys10:56
coreymon77for edgy10:56
MattSG192.168.0.102, and my connection works fine, just not to other computers on the subnet.10:56
daveso i need to find that program so i can change it back to the original10:56
davethe original theme that is10:56
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twosouls82please do so, then I can guide you through... without spoiling the room10:56
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trikiMattSG: you can ping default gw ?10:56
coreymon77are the repos for kde 3.5.5 the same as the dapper ones posted on the kubuntu website10:56
twosouls82^- reldruh10:56
coreymon77except you just change dapper to edgy10:57
daveseriously, i'm just asking you to right click something in the k menu... why do i not have an answer yet?10:57
jasinI dont like gnome10:57
MattSGno, I can't ping it10:57
davejasin, what is your q, maybe i can take a whack at it10:57
jasinping 127.0.0.110:57
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jasinHow do I apply a kernel patch?10:58
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trikiMattSG: type this 'route'10:58
trikiwhat do you get10:58
daveoh, that i dont know10:58
davedo you think you can freaking click a button for me? anyone?10:58
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MattSGah, gateway *10:58
trikitry this10:58
Zamber*click*10:58
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trikiMattSG: sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.110:59
jasinI extract it to /usr/src ?10:59
trikican you ping other system on the network ?10:59
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daveso how can i change my login themes via the console?10:59
marco_kde software is really nice. I'm very impressed with kopete. Is very nice the personalisation of visual behavior10:59
jasinI know I can use patch -p0 ?10:59
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jasinkde in kubuntu is faster then kde in other distros.11:00
trikinah11:01
davenow i have another question... why hasn't anyone answered my previous simple question?11:01
trikiran perfectly in gentoo for me11:01
coreymon77and im wondering about kde 3.5.5 in edgy11:01
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coreymon77as in11:01
coreymon77how to get it11:01
jasincore, use apt-get11:01
LjLdave: because i've always done that from inside KDE (and i haven't done it that often anyway)?11:01
coreymon77i know tha11:01
coreymon77tbut i need the distros11:02
coreymon77i mean11:02
coreymon77the repos11:02
davecan someone please find out what the command to run the gnome login display manager is for me?11:02
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daveall you have to do is this:11:02
MattSGwell, the default destination already had the right gateway11:02
coreymon77jasin: i need the repos for it11:02
MattSGit's the 192.168.0.0 destination that has * for a gateway. Is that how it's supposed to be?11:02
daveopen the k menu, go to settings, then find the thing that says login manager11:02
trikiMattSG: can you ping localhost or the ip of your wireless card ?11:02
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jasincorey, you ussing ubuntu breezy?11:02
coreymon77jasin: no11:02
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coreymon77edgy11:02
hammerhello11:02
jasinoh, ok11:02
trikiMattSG: better yet also do 'sudo dhclient'11:03
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nibletsI'm trying to get helix engine working in amarok, I have recompiled from sources, and installed RealPlayer, and set the proper paths, but it still comes up with the error "The Helix Engine requires the RealPlayer(tm) or HelixPlayer libraries to be installed. Please make sure one is installed, and adjust the paths in "Amarok Settings" -> "Engine""11:03
coreymon77jasin: the ones on the kubuntu website are for dapper11:03
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hammerwhere is the sources list located?11:03
MattSGI can ping myself11:03
coreymon77hammer: /etc/apt11:03
davealright, i'm going to look elsewhere for help11:04
jasinyeah, kubuntu is outdated11:04
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trikiMattSG: how many routers do you have ?11:04
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lucahi everyone11:04
coreymon77jasin: so what are the ones for edgy?11:04
lucadoes anyone know why I cannot install libgl1-mesa-glx AND the other mesa packages (mesa, mesa-dri) at the same time?11:04
trikiMattSG: one wired to internet and another for wireless ?11:04
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jasinkubuntu comes with 2.6.17 kernel and its not even 68611:05
MattSGI have an ethernet card, and a wireless card, yes. The ethernet cable is unpluged11:05
hammerok now i have to uncomment all of it right?11:05
jasin2.6.19 is stable11:05
kakaltojasin; stable by the makers11:05
trikiMattSG: how many routers do you have ?11:05
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MattSGone router11:05
kakaltolinux distrobutions tend to have their own standards of what they call 'stable'11:05
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mc__how to remove a package when even dpkg --force-all --purge  does not work?11:06
trikiMattSG: so you get an ip from dhcp, but you can't ping gw or other machines on network11:06
jasinInstalling KDE on an Ubuntu system. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE11:06
larson9999wine is back up for those who missed it :)  and there is a new version.  they update it every 7 minutes11:06
trikiMattSG: did you set the ip statically ?11:07
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MattSGdisabling the other ethernet adapter fixed it11:07
christiane_WTF?!? The speed over my wifi eth1 is about 120 kbit/s. Status on my WRT says 1Mbit/s nominal speed. I'm sitting 2 ft. away from the AP. When I switch to another OS it works with 54 Mbit (throughput 30 Mbit). What's wrong here?11:07
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coreymon77jasin: i have kde11:07
jasinkakalto, all distros build off of the kernel developed by linus.11:07
trikiMattSG: nice !11:07
coreymon77i want to upgrade11:07
kakaltojasin: all _linux_ distros do, yes11:08
lucaanyone has any ideas? I do not have a graphic card functioning at the moment11:08
larson9999what is a noexec kernell?: "Better support for noexec kernels"11:08
trikiluca: proper drivers installed ?11:08
ranceI need some help with a package management issue, if you apt-get install something that also installs dependencies, and you later uninstall the package, how do you go back and find out what packages were installed that you don't need anymore and get rid of those as well11:08
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Zamber!kernel11:08
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild11:08
lucatriki: I wonder if11:08
trikimodprobe and see11:09
kakaltojasin: but what linus and the kernel devs call 'stable' for the kernel 2.6.19 is different from what, say, a distro might call stable11:09
trikilsmod sorry11:09
Zambertriki that packages - if unused are noticed by apt-get automaticly11:09
kakaltojasin: hence in a distro like debian or gentoo, 2.6.19 kernel won't be "stable" for a while yett11:09
larson9999rance, if they were installed for dependent reasons, uninstalling them will also uninstall the app that depended on them.  you can install without resolving dependencies but that's not for the weak hearted11:09
triki?11:10
jasinkakalto, 2.6.19 is listed as stable on kernel.org11:10
lucatriki: video 011:10
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kakaltojasin: yes. that's not disputed =)11:10
hammerdam this is hard11:10
jasincorey, like I orginally said, use apt-get11:10
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Zamberjasin stabile kernet don't equals stabile distro11:10
jasincorey, try apt-get upgrade kde11:10
hammeri open a term sudo kate and made adjustments says i cant change11:10
trikiluca: what kinda card you have ?11:11
hammersudo is root no?11:11
rancewell what I did was install kmplayer, and all its deps, now when I uninstalled kmplayer all the deps are still floating around, how do I find those after the fact11:11
jasinZamber, of course11:11
trikihammer: yes11:11
lucatriki: Intel 85x11:11
kakaltojasin: however, kernel 2.6.19, "stable", is in current ubuntu unstable - feisty11:11
galathalionhammer: duper user do :>11:11
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sbcl3hello. i'm having a bit of a problem. K3B can't seem to process a CUE file that has multiple flac files and information about between-track gaps (for burning)11:11
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PPAAUULLCould someone tell me the command for glxgears so that it will give me a readout of the FPS?11:11
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larson9999rance, because those apps don't depend on kmplayer :)11:11
trikiluca: you're using kubuntu ?11:11
Zamberrance go to adept or synaptic and in the description of the package you'll have the dependicies11:11
Zamberor check on google11:12
ranceok11:12
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christiane_PPAAUULL: -printps11:12
twosouls82reldruh: :) I am bugging you again11:12
rancethat will work11:12
lucatriki: yes11:12
christiane_PPAAUULL: -printfps11:12
PPAAUULLok thanks11:12
reldruhtwosouls82: Kopete crashed on me, give me one second?11:12
nibletsI'm trying to get helix engine working in amarok, I have recompiled from sources, and installed RealPlayer, and set the proper paths, but it still comes up with the error "The Helix Engine requires the RealPlayer(tm) or HelixPlayer libraries to be installed. Please make sure one is installed, and adjust the paths in "Amarok Settings" -> "Engine""11:12
Sannerance: for dependencies of packages you can also search on packages.ubuntu.com11:12
lucatriki: I tried foolishly to install the nvidia drivers, now I am in the cold :(11:12
jasinkubuntu is not a distro though, ubuntu is technically not even a distro.11:12
Zamberreldruh use gaim :p11:12
twosouls82aye :)11:12
nibletsany ideas what to do?11:13
twosouls82or a real app -> Konversation11:13
sbcl3hello. i'm having a bit of a problem. K3B can't seem to process a CUE file that has multiple flac files and information about between-track gaps (for burning)11:13
twosouls82=)11:13
larson9999jasin, and wine is not an emulator!11:13
jasinlarson lol11:13
trikiluca: dell laptop ?11:13
Zamber!RealPlayer11:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:13
verboseand gnu is not unix!11:13
lucatriki: ibm11:13
lucatriki: R50e11:13
ranceI know ubuntu is based on debian, but then so is Knoppix, buy why wouldnt the changes be significant enough to get to be a "distro"11:14
TheGateKeeperwho knows their way arouund iptables?11:14
nibletsthanks11:14
trikiluca: do this 'lspci |grep AGP'11:14
larson9999and mac invented windows11:14
twosouls82and a distro isn't Linux but GNU/Linux, based on the Linux kernel11:14
kakaltoZamber: he tried following the RestrictedFormats guide, to no avail11:14
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trikisee which model it is11:14
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Zamberkakalto oh11:14
larson9999and COBOL is dead11:14
Zamberso look on google ;P11:14
lucatriki: no output11:15
kakaltoZamber: I've been trying te help him for a while =/11:15
jasinkubuntu is a version of ubuntu not a distro.11:15
trikiluca: ok just do 'lspci'11:15
trikilook for video card11:15
jasinkubuntu is a version of ubuntu its not a distro.11:15
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kakaltojasin: technically, yes. but for commonspeak, that complicates things when you're not debating that fact11:15
jba_ciao a tutti11:15
trikiluca: 'lspci |grep VGA'11:15
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Zamber_awxD11:16
MattSGbtw, anyone know why my tooltips are not disabling? Do I need to relogin or something?11:16
jba_:)11:16
larson9999i call it *buntu. pronounced 'star buntu'11:16
lucatriki: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)11:16
luca!it jba11:16
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about it jba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:16
luca!it11:17
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:17
jba_grazie!11:17
Zamber_aw!pl11:17
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl11:17
Zamber_aw:D11:17
jasinxandros, knoppix, unbuntu,etc.. their all built off of debian.11:17
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jasinxandros, knoppix, ubuntu,etc.. their all built off of debian.11:17
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jba_ciao a tutti11:17
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kakaltojasin: you don't have to repeat yourself11:18
jba_c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi con ATI 9700 su kubuntu11:18
lucatriki: any ideas? :(11:18
jba_?11:18
hammerok im confused here i try to switch user to be root and its not accepting my pw11:18
kakaltohammer: sudo su?11:18
lucajba: vai su #kubuntu-it o parla inglese! questo non  un canale italiano11:18
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hammerill try that then11:19
jasinA distro by definition is: A Linux distribution is a version of a Unix-like operating system for computers comprising of the Linux kernel, all or part of the GNU operating system, and assorted libraries and applications.11:19
hammeri was trying just su and it also wouldnt accept pw11:19
notechjasin: seems kubuntu fits that11:19
hammerfinally11:19
hammerty11:19
larson9999jasin, so they are all distros then by definition11:19
kakaltojasin: then by that definition, surely kubuntu is one then?11:19
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Sannehammer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:20
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jasinnotech, not really since its built off of ubuntu, ubuntu is the distro, but even that in its self is built off of debian its not a nos in its self.11:20
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kakaltojasin: ubuntu is a version of debian; therefore a distro11:20
kakaltojasin: call it a subdistro, no-one really cares too much, and it's a bit off-topic11:21
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jasinkakalto, never said it wasn't.11:21
notechjasin: doesn't matter what its built off of, its put together and has all the requirements11:21
jasinkatalto, you're the one that brought this up not I.11:21
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larson9999jasin, yes really.  by definition, specifically the one you quoted, they are all distrs.11:21
hammerwhy doesnt kate work in term now11:21
notechjasin: perhaps you should take your argument too places like distrowatch and see howw far you get11:21
kakaltojasin: indeed, hence I'm trying to stop it11:21
larson9999:)11:21
hammerits stupid as norm user kate opens11:22
hammernow as root itr dont11:22
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jasinnotech, are you an op?11:22
Sannehammer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:22
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sbcl3i'm having a bit of a problem. K3B can't seem to process a CUE file that has multiple flac files and information about between-track gaps (for burning)11:22
notechjasin: which has what to do with anything?11:22
jasinnotech, then what place do you have telling me what to do?11:22
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triki1luca: http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/installing-intel-815852855-graphics-controller-drivers-on-ubuntu-debian/11:23
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triki1luca: hope that helps11:23
kakaltojasin: this is getting nowhere11:23
kakaltofast.11:23
hammerroot@AMD64:/home/hammer# kate11:23
Sannejasin: please don't be so aggressive11:23
hammerXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server11:23
hammerXlib: No protocol specifie11:23
jasinnotech, I am entitled to my opinions.11:23
notechjasin: it was a suggestion since you do not even accept the definition you posted here11:23
jasinSanne, I am fine :)11:23
chimaerasince when are all those retards around, i wonder? call be elitist prick, but somehow teh channels where nicer when not everyone was using linux.11:23
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hammerwell let us not forget that this is the net eh11:25
cloakableIndeed11:25
chimaeraahh, good point.11:25
jasinhammer lol11:25
hammer:)11:25
jasinyeah, everyone's something their not.11:26
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jasinthats the net11:26
chimaerahammer: btw, use kdesu to start up kate, like ein "kdesu kate" as user11:26
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triki1dude channels were werse when not so many people uses linux11:26
hammerok ill try that11:26
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chimaerawell, i hung around at debian, debian-kde and teh like for years, was alays nice an cozy.11:27
chimaeraexcuse the tehs. typos all around11:27
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jasinSanne, I asked a very simple question about the linux kernel and you all started arguing with me? wtf??11:27
triki1i always found ppl flaming if you asked a question that they knew11:27
Vladdyhmm11:27
Sannejasin: I didn't argue with you, I just bade you to not be aggressive.11:28
Vladdyis there a shortcut to send a screen to other screen (in dual screen config?)11:28
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jasinSanne, katalto and notech did.11:28
max_anyone use Beryl?11:29
Vladdytrying to figure that out11:29
Vladdybecause I want to make OO.org impress put presentation on other screen11:29
notechjasin: i just pointed out that you didn't agree with the definition you posted here, and suggested you take your argument of what's a distro to some place like distrowatch since, by you, they are wrong as well.11:29
Sannejasin: maybe you came around a bit too harsh regarding distro or not distro, and I also think it's a bit offtopic, since this is mainly a support channel. #kubuntu-offtopic may be a better place for such discussions.11:29
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jasinnotech, I asked a question, thats it.11:30
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jasinSanne, oh, so asking a question is harsh?11:30
chimaeraalso, proving a point when noone wants to hear it s pretty, well, you know.11:30
jasinSanne, I doubt you even seen the question11:31
notechjasin: i'm noot going to argue it since i wasn't here at the beginning, just seen you stating what was and what was not a distro11:31
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jasinSanne, but whatever, you're all worthless .. you obviously know nothing about linux, my questions was very simple.11:31
fdovingjasin: stop.11:31
Sannejasin: I didn't say that, please try to understand what I said. I really don't want to argue, sorry if I offended you. But you came around as agressive to me.11:31
chimaera...11:31
jasinYou people obviously know nothing about linux.11:32
notechjasin: calling people names isn't too mature. you seem to just want to cause issues here11:32
jasinGood bye11:32
christiane_`iwlist eth1 scan` shows me "Quality=100/100  Signal level=-31 dBm" but speed doesn't exeed 1 or 2 Mbit/s. System load is 0.04 only. So any idea where to look?11:32
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Vuenhey guys, how do i configure what my computer does when i press the power button?11:32
notechthe bios, if it has the options11:33
Vuenno, i mean shutdown, suspend, hibernate11:33
chimaeraboays, no you let the uber-leet knowitall leave. we're doomed i say.11:33
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Vuenright now when i press power, it tries to shutdown and somehow fails11:34
Vueni'd like it to suspend instead11:34
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notechVuen: i don't know, i never bother with those functions11:35
ScottADoes anyone know how to install a program from a tar.bz2 file?11:35
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VuenScottA: is it binary? or source?11:36
max_anyone use Beryl?11:36
Vuenmax: yep11:36
ScottAI think its binary but it might be source.11:36
max_is there anyway to make beryl the windows manager when you start, instead of having to run <beryl-manager>?11:36
Vuenthat's kindof important11:36
ScottAis there a way I can find out?11:36
ScottAhold on. I'll check11:36
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Vuenmax_: yep. open kate, save a new file as ~/.kde/Autostart, and in it type:11:37
Vuen#!/bin/bash11:37
Vuenberyl-manager11:37
Vuenthen chmod 755 the file11:37
ScottAI'm pretty sure its source actually.11:37
max_what is chmod11:37
max_75511:37
ScottAThe program, or series of programs rather, is KOffice.11:37
SanneScottA: are you sure that app is not in the repositories?11:37
ScottAhow can I find out?11:38
Vuenmax_: nevermind. open up konqueror, type ~/.kde/Autostart into the address bar11:38
SanneScottA: search at packages.ubuntu.com11:38
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ScottAk11:38
Vuenthen right click, choose "Link to Application", then type beryl-manager as the name and the command to run11:38
SanneScottA: (KOffice is most surely installable with apt/adept/synaptic)11:38
hammerwhy does the font size go hudge when right clicking and selecting install?11:38
VuenScottA: ah. just install koffice from synaptic11:38
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chimaerahammer: clicking where?11:39
Vuenor adept11:39
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ScottAits not in adept.11:39
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notechtar jxvf, i believe11:39
twosouls82have a nice evening ppl11:40
twosouls82:)11:40
hammeradept manager11:40
hammeris it possible to change that to the synitcic one?11:40
max_Vuen: where is link to application?11:40
chimaerahammer: well, i also prefer synaptic, so just install and use it instead of adept11:41
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SanneScottA: koffice is in main, you can also check with: 'apt-cache search koffice'11:41
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hammergood idea11:41
hammer:)11:41
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marco_what is mandriva and what are the main differences?11:41
hammermandriva is terrible11:42
ranceDoes anyone know if there is a freebsd-games package for debian/ubuntu, there are some nifty little packages in there11:42
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chimaeramarco_: mandriva is the community spin-off of mandrake linux.11:42
notechno11:42
marco_Why is it terrible?11:42
notechmandrakke changed its name to mandriva when it joined with conectiva11:42
marco_is it open-source?11:43
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hammeri dunno but i guess i shouldnt say that as im only going by my experience and personal opinions11:43
ScottAthanx. I feel like an idiot11:43
hammerso i take that back im sorry11:43
chimaera;)11:43
SanneScottA: no need to :) Glad you found it.11:43
notechmarco_: its not, its just different. its an rpm based distro11:43
xenol!restrictedformats11:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:44
notechmarco_: and yes, open source11:44
marco_It was just curiosity :) I feel very well with ubuntu11:44
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chimaerastick with it ;). i moved from debian to ubuntu and i'm no quite sure if i stay, but my lazyness heightens probability.11:45
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hammerwow this is gonna take some getting used to11:46
notechmarco_: best to try several distro's and use what best suits you11:46
hammerswitched from mepis6.0 and now have kubuntu 6.10 amd64 version11:46
marco_Well. I am going to dowload a Live CD and see what I get11:47
hammerseems nice11:47
hammermarco live cd of what?11:48
marco_Mandriva ?11:48
hammerahh ok11:48
Zamber_awMandrivia is awful11:48
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marco_Why ?11:48
Zamber_awtry xubuntu or kubuntu :P11:48
marco_Visually?11:48
Zamber_awno11:49
Zamber_awit has a poor community11:49
notechits not, they are just rambling11:49
Zamber_aw:P11:49
notechits just different11:49
chimaeraZamber_aw:  can you back up such statements? it contains zero information..11:49
Zamber_aw"just rambling" for the last couple of years xD11:49
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ninHerwhat does the people use for playing videopodcasts on ipods ?11:50
marco_I'm using kubuntu. It's excelent. Lets see what mandriva has to offer11:50
hammerif it has zerro information well that explains itself lol11:50
kakaltoit does give off a bit of a FUDding vibe, yeh11:50
kakaltoheheh11:50
rancedoes anyone know of a way to print banners on continuous feed dot-matrix printers?  The program "banner" on freebsd does this, but I dont see a ubuntu equivalent11:50
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Zamber_awmarco_ if you take it that way - don't mind ;)11:50
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chimaerarance: afaik thde kde-printing system should be able to do this.11:51
marco_Well, off course I wont erase kubuntu. It will run only on cd :) Live11:51
notechmarco_: good idea, as i said its best to try several asnd use what suits you, not what suits someone elsew11:51
notechelse11:51
hammerim only kidding when i bash mandriva...i cant tell u anything fact wise and well im not 1 to bash anyone for anything anyways its all a matter of different strokes for different folks11:51
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dmDoes anyone know an irc channel where I could ask about my slow wifi connection?11:52
rancea very old version of mandrake was my first linux distro11:52
rancewith ubuntu I've finally been able to make a commitment. it comes closest to doing everything I want right out of the box, and the rest I can figure out11:53
ryanakcadm: here? or in #ubuntu?11:53
hammerlibdvdcss2 or what ever isnt listed in packages11:53
hammerthats not good i need that desperately11:53
Vladdyrance: same here, but with kubuntu ;p11:53
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Vladdyi deleted windows shortly after on my other pc, first time i did that (on purpose..)11:54
ranceVladdy: my devel desktop is kubuntu, and my home router is ubuntu LTS server11:54
marco_well... it's good to explore :) But it's important to repeat, I'm really happy with kubuntu. It's going to be hard to change my ideas. But , just to explore, lets see what mandriva is11:54
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dmryanakca:  The speed over my wifi eth1 is about 120 kbit/s. Status on my WRT says 1Mbit/s nominal speed. I'm sitting 2 ft. away from the AP. When I switch to another OS it works with 54 Mbit (throughput 30 Mbit). What's wrong here?11:55
ranceI havent used mandriva since they changed from mandrake11:55
Vladdyrance: for my old server I used hardened lfs ;-)11:55
ranceI remember lfs11:55
ryanakcadm: I have no clue about wireless, sorry... but many people in here do :)11:55
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ryanakcarance: lfs is still popular... linux from scratch...11:56
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hammeruh oh11:56
Vladdyerr11:56
ranceYea I know, I was just remembering my last install at it11:56
Vladdylfs is near dead, clfs is still alive though :D11:56
CoffeeShockdm: what does iwconfig eth1 tell you?11:56
dmThe driver is bcm43xx on a Broadcom 4311 card, firmware is installed via bcm43xx-fwcutter. `iwlist scan` shows "quality 100/100 -31 dbm". Why is it that slow?11:57
hammerhow can i get libdvdcss and libdvdcss2?11:57
ranceI learned alot from my lfs install11:57
Vladdyseperated fork from lfs, clfs is cross compiled lfs, which means host and target doesn't have to be the same :O11:57
hammerapt-get command failed :/11:57
kakaltohammer: did you follow the RestrictedFormats guide?11:57
Vladdy!mp3 > hammer11:57
marco_Should I use ati official driver or stick with the one that came with kubuntu (6.10)?11:57
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rancewell, im off11:57
kakaltomarco_: depends on what ati card you have11:58
lucatriki: thanks, I had to relocate but got your message!11:58
marco_ati radeon 955011:58
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CoffeeShockdm: hmm I had the bcm43xx driver running too, but for my config it was quite sloppy too ... Might have been the card though. what happens if you do a "sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 11"?11:58
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dmCoffeeShock: I'm on ethernet again, now. I'll switch back and brb ...11:58
CoffeeShockokay11:59
ryanakcamarco_: the opensource 'ati' driver tends to work better than the 'fglrx' one...11:59
BluesKajkill cmds ?11:59
marco_How can I know 3d acceleration is active?12:00
Vladdyso true O_O12:00
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Vladdyfglrx sucks badly..12:00
hammerim a little confused i uncommented everything infront of all the deb listed12:00
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judgenVladdy: why? its getting better for every release12:00
BluesKajdirect rendering - yes ...means you have 3d accel12:00
kakalto!ati > marco_12:00
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marco_tanks12:01
judgenhow come fonts in kubuntu looks soo bad when running gtk apps?12:01
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Vladdyit still took 5 months to get my video card working after it was released... while the specs had already been ready for a year12:02
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CoffeeShockjudgen: its because you shouldnt be using gtk apps with kubuntu ;)12:02
kakaltohammer: did you apt-get update?12:02
judgenCoffeeShock: lol some apps dont have an qt frontend12:03
kakaltohammer: sudo apt-get update, I mean12:03
Vladdynot only that, there are perfectly good 2d open source drivers for my card, however ati won't give the ok, so they cannot be downloaded by anyone :S12:03
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hammerill try that12:03
CoffeeShockjudgen: yea I know, just kidding. Fonts is my nemesis though cant help you much there12:03
hammeri did apt-get12:03
judgenVladdy: AMD bought ATI and tehy are alot more friendly towards oss12:03
hammermabe i missed something ill try again12:04
Vladdywe'll see, so far I still don't have source code for drivers for my ati card :O12:04
Sannehammer: you can try to set the option that non-kde apps should use kde fonts and themes.12:04
judgenno card maker provides full source12:04
hammerapperently i did it right12:04
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hammerhow ya do that12:04
kakaltohammer: you're after dvd support, aren't ya?12:05
Vladdyquite nice theme12:05
hammeryup12:05
kakaltoor did I get messed up?12:05
judgenintel and S3 is close though only the DRM parts arent opensourced yet12:05
kakaltoah good12:05
Vladdyintel opened everything for their new card iirc12:05
hammeri need libdvdcss and libdvdcss212:05
b0nnHi all, Iveen bashing away at trying to get a working driver for my webcam.. on linux.. I have got to the point where I have essentially taken usb-skeleton.c and s/skel/ezcam, Now I am stuck, the sekeleton driver cycles through the interfaces looking for bulk in/out endpoints, but usbview tells me my device only has ISO IN endpoints12:05
judgenVladdy: they did not open it all, the DRM stuff is still closed just as the S3 cards12:05
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VladdyO_O12:06
hammerisnt there extra things to add to sources list there was when i ran mepis12:06
Vladdyhttp://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html12:06
Vladdyseems to be a drm kernel module there12:06
CoffeeShockdm: are you done with the testing yet?12:06
Vladdyand the 3d gl driver..12:06
kakaltohammer: when you say the apt-get command failed, what is the error?12:06
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Vladdyhammer: did you run sudo apt-get update?12:06
kakaltohammer: the sources.list needs to have multiverse12:06
hammerrefers to another pacjkage or something12:06
christiane_CoffeeShock: I'm actually tryin' to get my nickname back ;-)12:07
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christiane_CoffeeShock: But yes, I tested.12:07
soulriderfdoving: you here? =/12:07
christiane_CoffeeShock: rate is shown as 11 Mbit12:07
kakaltohammer: pastebin your sources.list ?12:07
CoffeeShockchristiane_: okay ... but is there an actual change too?12:07
Vladdygoing to bed though, night12:07
flaccid!vpnc12:07
ubotuvpnc: Cisco-compatible VPN client. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3+SVN20051028-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 52 kB, installed size 220 kB12:07
flaccidhmm12:08
christiane_CoffeeShock: Speed is 120 kbit.12:08
hammerok heres my sources list12:08
hammerhttp://pastebin.ca/27476212:08
kakalto!pastebin > hammer12:08
kakaltowoops =)12:09
hammeri get the feeling im not doing something right12:09
hammerits all good lol12:09
christiane_kakalto: ;-)12:09
hammerits sunday thats my excuse hehe12:09
Vladdyhammer: have yo uever run "sudo apt-get update?  :P12:09
CoffeeShockchristiane_: aww thats weird then, maybe a "dmesg | grep bcm43xx" will give a hint what happenend at the moment of changing the rate12:09
kakaltohammer: on lines 16 and 17, you need to add 'multiverse' on the end12:09
hammerya i did that12:09
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kakaltohammer: lines 16 and 17 show no multiverse12:10
hammerok12:10
kakaltocool.12:10
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hammerhow do i make it right just type multiverse there?12:10
kakaltoyup12:10
hammerok12:10
lucatriki: everything seems to function, thanks a lot!12:10
kakaltospace after universe and put multiverse12:10
triki1awesome !12:10
christiane_CoffeeShock: Sorry, I forgot to mention: Trying to change the rate results in an error msg: "SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument."12:10
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CoffeeShockchristiane_: hmm or was it rate 11M .... ill check ;)12:11
lucauh sorry - have to keep my mouse in check :$12:11
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kakaltohammer: then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2"12:11
Rob-Westcan anyone mail me a free Kubuntu CD12:11
trikilol12:12
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Vladdylol12:12
soulriderRob-West: shipit.kubuntu.org12:12
ninHerwhat does the people use for playing videopodcasts on ipods ?12:12
kakaltoRob-West: dapper, sure ;-)12:12
Vladdy!shipit12:12
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.12:12
soulriderdoes anyone know how i can identify  a partition ?12:12
Rob-Westi want Edgy12:12
soulridernot with /dev/sdxx12:12
Vladdyjust burn it O_O12:12
trikisoulrider: fdisk -l12:12
kakaltoRob-West: limited bandwidth, I guess?12:12
Rob-Westim having shit luck trying to download it12:12
Vladdyyou could try torrents12:13
trikiRob-West: use torrent12:13
CoffeeShockchristiane_: Okay *acutally* the command goes like iwconfig eth1 rate 11M ...12:13
hammerdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse12:13
hammerdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse12:13
soulridertriki: im using hte live CD right now12:13
hammerthose right?12:13
Rob-Westill torrent the DVD then12:13
kakaltohammer: yup.12:13
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soulriderhow can i make it show the partitions on a specified disc ?12:13
kakaltohammer now "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2"12:13
trikisoulrider: fdisk -l will still work12:13
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trikifrom live cd you can access your hardware12:14
Vladdyyep :O12:14
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