[12:18] <CaBlGuY> Oh, can someone help with accessing my slave drive?
[12:19] <CaBlGuY> it's a winblowz NTFS system drive
[12:19] <digitalfreedom> is it mounted?
[12:19] <Murrlin> ok I'm a dumba**. its 15-26.386 not 686
[12:19] <CaBlGuY> no, not mounted yet..
[12:19] <Schuenemann> CaBlGuY: look in /media
[12:19] <CaBlGuY> hang on..
[12:20] <CaBlGuY> K, nope, not there..
[12:21] <Schuenemann> CaBlGuY: no folders there?
[12:21] <Schuenemann> like hda, hdb
[12:21] <CaBlGuY> yes..  I got into it..
[12:22] <CaBlGuY> and there are my CD-Rom floders, but no windowz folder..
[12:22] <CaBlGuY> cdrom0 cdrom1 floppy etc..
[12:22] <Schuenemann> no hda, hdb?
[12:23] <CaBlGuY> no sir..
[12:23] <Schuenemann> I think you mount using mount /dev/hd* folder
[12:23] <Schuenemann> where folder is the destination folder
[12:23] <Perseid> I can't edit any grub configuration if I boot from the install cd?
[12:24] <CaBlGuY> and I would need to know what the name of the dev is yes?
[12:24] <Schuenemann> yeah... first hd is hda, second is hdb...
[12:25] <CaBlGuY> ok..  so lemme try and see what happenes..   if I remeber right, last time we did it, we had to use FS Tab..
[12:26] <bones78> Howdy everyone.
[12:26] <tim_lynch> I'm thinking of installing kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop, but I was wondering what partitioning program the installer uses- should I partition before I start installing?
[12:27] <Perseid> I'm really at a loss. I can't boot my computer at all.
[12:27] <CaBlGuY> !mount
[12:27] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:27] <BluesKaj> wondering about the existing libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/firefox/plugin, whether or not it should be deleted and replaced with the flash9 version ?
[12:27] <bones78> Installation gives you the option the alter your partition if needed.
[12:28] <bones78> I believe it's under the advanced heading.
[12:28] <BluesKaj> GParted rocks ..QTParted is iffy
[12:29] <_kuja_> Bah, both of them suck. GNUparted rules the seas!
[12:29] <Perseid> Anyone? Help with grub? When I boot all I get is the grub command line.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> GParted is GNUparted :)
[12:30] <_kuja_> A frontend for lawn GNOMES :O
[12:30] <tim_lynch> ok. just to be safe I'll partition before I start installation- I don't want to get stuck halfway and end up erasing my hd
[12:30] <pacman> anyone know what the latest version of Java is for LInux?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> yes partitioniong first is usually the best practice, tim_lynch
[12:31] <CaBlGuY> Schuenemann:  I aint seein anything and the mount isn't working..
[12:31] <tim_lynch> well I'm going to get started on that- I'll be back if my computer is destroyed
[12:31] <tim_lynch> thanks for the help
[12:31] <bones78> You can draw the partition up as you see fit.........you don't need to write your partition straight away.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> tim_lynch, use Gparted live cd ...DL it first and burn it to a cd and use that to boot up , then do the partitioning with tools
[12:32] <BluesKaj> phooey
[12:32] <BluesKaj> some ppl have no patience
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !fs tab
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs tab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !fstab
[12:33] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:33] <SupremeBeing> !xgl
[12:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !Partitions
[12:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:33] <bones78> Why use gparted when the ubuntu cd can partition ok?
[12:34] <_kuja_> not a bad question.
[12:34] <BluesKaj> it's easier with the GParted
[12:34] <_kuja_> define easy
[12:35] <bones78> I've never used gparted (or qparted) but I'm guessing they can resize partitions?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> hehe , why ask for a deininition when just effective without having to fool with the QTParted disk
[12:36] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: ever used beryl?
[12:36] <SupremeBeing> SupremeBeing:  hi
[12:36] <_kuja_> Qtparted actually let me try to resize my XFS partition. That's how I spell disaster.
[12:36] <CaBlGuY> O_0
[12:37] <Zamber> !beryl
[12:37] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:37] <SupremeBeing> CaBlGuY: lol?
[12:37] <CaBlGuY> :)
[12:37] <SupremeBeing> I know what it is, i've installed it twice, then it screws me and freezes...
[12:37] <bones78> For a novice/windows convert........wouldn't using the partitioner on the insatll cd suffice?
[12:38] <slop> how do i find out what driver my sound card is using?
[12:38] <crimsun> slop: cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:39] <dejan> anyone know how to fix media player so it plays wmv and dvd properly. i had it fixed but all of a sudden its not working correctly
[12:39] <slop> crimsun, thanks
[12:39] <bones78> I don't know about wmv but just installing libdvdcss should cure dvd's
[12:40] <CaBlGuY> dejan:  what player u usin?
[12:40] <CaBlGuY> Howdy crimsun  o/
[12:41] <ubuntu> can someone help me plz? i want to install kubuntu 6,06,1 but it doesnt say anything about INSTALLING GRUB
[12:41] <ubuntu> will it install it or no
[12:41] <ubuntu> ?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> it will
[12:41] <Zamber> yep
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> yes it will
[12:42] <crimsun> unless you use lvm in which case it won't (it'll use lilo)
[12:42] <ubuntu> but in "ready to install" it says nothing about gruB
[12:42] <ubuntu> i plan use dualboot
[12:42] <ubuntu> but am afraid it wont install
[12:42] <ubuntu> so it will ty guys
[12:42] <BluesKaj> well , grub will be the way to go
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> yes, grub is the defualt install
[12:43] <BluesKaj> if you preserve your hda1 NTFS then grub is the choice
[12:43] <bones78> ubuntu install will resize, and install grub for you.  You could even alter what OS you want it to time into.
[12:44] <ubuntu> ppl do u advise me to upgrade to 6.10?
[12:45] <slop> is there a way to check that i have the newest driver for my sound card installed?
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu I just did and it's very nice..
[12:45] <bones78> Some say it's as stable as 6.06 for everyday desktop use.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> well,  I like edgy ...works better on my pc
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> only thing you would have to install is basic stuff..
[12:46] <digitalfreedom> i love looking at /proc
[12:46] <BluesKaj> yes slop, system settings/monitor&display/hardware
[12:46] <ubuntu> and how long does the upgrade take?
[12:47] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu I just DL the iso and did a fresh install..
[12:47] <ubuntu> ah i got some problem swith installing 6.10
[12:47] <bones78> As long as a install
[12:47] <CaBlGuY> if you do the upgrade thorugh at-get upgrade, would probably be faster..
[12:47] <digitalfreedom> can pipe cat?
[12:47] <digitalfreedom> you*
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> root@beau-desktop:/proc# cat |uptime version
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> usage: uptime [-V] 
[12:49] <digitalfreedom>     -V    display version
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> guess not
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> im sure i did it wrong
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> bu bye
[12:50] <ubuntu> WTF scanning the mirror
[12:50] <ubuntu> wat is that plz?
[12:51] <I_Eat_Plastic> What's a good audio editor for KDE? :o
[12:53] <MongooseOFdoom> audacity
[12:53] <BluesKaj> editor how?
[12:54] <MongooseOFdoom> I_Eat_Plastic,  audacity?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> gnormalize seems ok
[12:55] <slop> how do i download a package from backports?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> slop, did you find your soundcard in the list in systems settings
[12:58] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:58] <slop> BluesKaj, yeah, but that wasn't the problem...now i'm trying to figure out how to download a packge from backports...dow you know how?
[12:58] <snowice> hello, is it possible to use arts with amarok, since the xine engine is broken?
[12:59] <SupremeBeing> images?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> slop, you have to make sure you have the backport repository in your sources list
[01:00] <slop> BluesKaj, i did that part....now how do i make sure i'm downloading a package from that repo?
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> snowice, i think so
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe #amarok would know as well
[01:01] <BluesKaj> adept or apt will search the repos for the pakg and DL and install it for you
[01:01] <_kuja_> slop: it'll always be a newer version in the backports, and apt will always install the newest version by default
[01:01] <slop> ah ok
[01:01] <slop> thx :)
[01:02] <BluesKaj> well, you can upgrade adept too
[01:03] <snowice> Admiral_Chicago, thanks, but I can't find the arts-engine, which was available in previous versions of amarok. You know how to set it up?
[01:03] <Admiral_Chicago> no i'm using the newest version of Amarok
[01:04] <snowice> so you're probably using the xine-engine
[01:05] <julle> how i change the soundcard in alsamixer ?
[01:07] <snowice> julle, man alsamixer, the -c option
[01:11] <dm> how do i change the theme in KDE?
[01:12] <dm> anyone???
[01:15] <I_Eat_Plastic> Hey, has anyone ever installed iTunes via cedega?
[01:15] <I_Eat_Plastic> or wine
[01:19] <nerdzyboy> How can I install libc6 (>= 2.4-1) under kubuntu 6.06?
[01:22] <nerdzyboy> can anyone help me?
[01:23] <bLaZeD> I_Eat_Plastic, why would u do that?
[01:23] <I_Eat_Plastic> bLaZeD, for my cell phone
[01:23] <bLaZeD> I_Eat_Plastic, hmm have u tried gtkpod?
[01:23] <I_Eat_Plastic> No, :D
[01:23] <bLaZeD> !gtkpod > I_Eat_Plastic
[01:23] <bLaZeD> !gtkpod
[01:23] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[01:24] <bLaZeD> not sure if it will work for a cell phone
[01:24] <I_Eat_Plastic> Well see.
[01:24] <bLaZeD> but works great for my ipod
[01:24] <I_Eat_Plastic> :] 
[01:24] <bLaZeD> =)
[01:27] <rance> how do you check for packages that were installed as a dependency that are now orphaned after the parent packages was uninstalled?
[01:28] <nerdzyboy> please help me... I need to install this package in order to install beryl...
[01:33] <bones78> Anyone run kubuntu?
[01:33] <I_Eat_Plastic> no
[01:33] <bones78> xenol needs help
[01:33] <I_Eat_Plastic> .. that was a joke :P
[01:33] <rance> in the #kubuntu channel you ask that?
[01:34] <bones78> lol
[01:34] <notech> nerdzyboy: installing beryl should bring in anything it needs if using apt-get or the gui
[01:34] <bones78> yup
[01:34] <Xenol> i need help cause when i click on admin mode in login manager it doesnt ask for root password
[01:34] <bones78> I have kde installed, but am used to gnome
[01:34] <rance> Xenol, its not supposed to, that the main difference between k/ubuntu and the rest of linux
[01:34] <rance> no root password
[01:35] <rance> it wants YOUR password
[01:35] <Xenol> i know
[01:35] <bones78> He doesn't get asked for his password either
[01:35] <bones78> just a red box
[01:35] <rance> oh you mean it doesnt ask for a password at all
[01:35] <Xenol> but when i click for admin mode it onlz show red rectangle and no options in it
[01:35] <notech> why would you want to login to the gui as root anyway?
[01:35] <Xenol> zup
[01:35] <Xenol> yup
[01:35] <rance> sorry misunderstood you
[01:35] <Xenol> np :)
[01:36] <rance> only think I ever did from the login manager was login to a console to fix X
[01:36] <rance> gotta go
[01:36] <nerdzyboy> it tells me that it cant be installed
[01:37] <notech> Xenol:  why would you want to login to the gui as root anyway?
[01:37] <notech> nerdzyboy: no reason why?
[01:37] <bones78> All he is after is automtic login and altering grub for auto OS
[01:37] <nerdzyboy> not really
[01:37] <Xenol> notech no root login i only need to change settings for auto login
[01:37] <nerdzyboy> it sees the dependencies but tells me that they wont be installed
[01:38] <notech> login and user and use sudo to access whatever config utility it uses for that
[01:38] <freddan> trying to play a regular .mp3 file with Amarok but keep getting this "no suitable input plugin".. does that mean i dont have any codec to play mp3 or what ?
[01:38] <notech> login as
[01:38] <nerdzyboy> the only package that cant be installed is xserver-xgl because it needs a newer version of libc6
[01:39] <triki> what do you do when libc6 is broken ?
[01:39] <notech> nerdzyboy: checked for that libc6 in repo's? i'm guessing maybe you don't have a full list o sources
[01:40] <nerdzyboy> just noticed universe was commented...
[01:40] <nerdzyboy> I'll try again
[01:42] <freddan> atleast thats what im guessing the problem is, however i noticed i do have libxine1 installed and as far as i can tell that should be able to handle mp3
[01:43] <nerdzyboy> xserver-xgl depends on libc6 2.4-1 but the newest version in the repositories is 2.3.6
[01:43] <triki> you trying to get amarok to play mp3's ?
[01:43] <nerdzyboy> *in my repositories anyway...
[01:43] <nerdzyboy> wat should I add?
[01:43] <freddan> triki: yes
[01:44] <freddan> no input plugin problem
[01:45] <triki> ya i had the same problem, skipped all mp3's right ?
[01:45] <freddan> yeah
[01:46] <triki> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs
[01:46] <nerdzyboy> what should I do?
[01:47] <triki> run that
[01:51] <triki> how did it go ?
[01:53] <Xenol> wat package whould i DL so i can see avi on kubuntu?
[01:53] <triki> what players do you have installed ?
[01:55] <freddan> triki: well those 2 + some more that was required is installed now
[01:55] <Xenol> kaffenie
[01:55] <freddan> but i seem to get the same error in amarok
[01:55] <Xenol> but want something better
[01:55] <freddan> maybe i need to change some setting
[01:55] <triki> did you close amarok and reopen it ?
[01:55] <Xenol> can u advise me smth?
[01:56] <triki> xmms plays mp3's
[01:58] <freddan> yeah i did restart it but still get the same error
[01:58] <triki> hmmm
[01:58] <triki> one sec
[01:58] <VR^> hey guys... how can i make firefox look a bit more like a KDE app? all the themes are sort of... lame.
[02:00] <_kuja_> I concur VR^ ... I couldn't find a theme that matched when I looked either.
[02:00] <junky> buenas a todos alguien me puede ayudar?? plz
[02:00] <triki> freddan: try putting that into /etc/apt/source file ---- deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[02:00] <junky> soy novato en linux  i e instalado kubuntu por primera vez... todo mas o menos bien menos el sonido
[02:00] <junky> k no me va
[02:01] <junky> llevo muchas horas metido en eso i no lo logro
[02:01] <junky> alguien me podria echar unamano?
[02:01] <intelikey> VR^ mmmm use konqueror ?
[02:01] <intelikey> :)
[02:02] <VR^> i dont enjoy konqueror :(
[02:02] <triki> make it look more like a kde app ?
[02:02] <VR^> triki: yes
[02:02] <triki> you can download firefox themes
[02:02] <triki> from mozilla
[02:02] <_kuja_> Opera can be made to look very kde-ish
[02:02] <VR^> i know, but none of them seem to cut it.
[02:03] <triki> you can try to make one :P
[02:03] <triki> with gimp
[02:03] <VR^> oh what fun that would be
[02:03] <_kuja_> All the icons are already made, you just need to plug them into the theme I'm guessing.
[02:03] <triki> change colors and icons sizes if you want
[02:04] <notech> konqueror and other kde apps kinda look lame, hard to answer your question :)
[02:04] <intelikey> mmmm or just use konqueror ?
[02:04] <freddan> triki: its 2am already, think ill try again tomorrow instead :) thanks for the help tho
[02:04] <VR^> konqueror doesnt display pages as well as firefox does
[02:04] <_kuja_> VR^ it does if they're written properly
[02:04] <triki> ok np
[02:05] <VR^> _kuja_: yeah, but most of them seem to not be.
[02:05] <intelikey> most aren't
[02:05] <VR^> even kubuntu.org and the ubuntu wiki look different in konq.
[02:05] <VR^> the font is smaller
[02:05] <intelikey> lol
[02:05] <intelikey> ^+
[02:06] <_kuja_> Some of them are downright evil, such that they rely on rendering bugs to render "properly"
[02:07] <intelikey> VR^ font size is a real problem these days   :)
[02:08] <intelikey> it's not like there are four or five ways to change that......      oh wait, yse it is....
[02:08] <VR^> it looks ok if i hit ctrl+
[02:08] <VR^> i didnt know how to make that setting stick, though
[02:08] <intelikey> in the menu   configure
[02:09] <VR^> im not in kde now
[02:09] <VR^> =D
[02:09] <intelikey> ok.
[02:09] <VR^> i dont know... something draws me to kde, but i always go back to gnome
[02:09] <VR^> then i get bored of it
[02:10] <VR^> and the cycle starts anew
[02:10] <intelikey> so you're wishy-washy, who isn't
[02:10] <Xenol> plz can i delete kubuntu memtest and failsafe delete or hide somehow from GRUB list?
[02:11] <digitalfreedom> you sure can
[02:11] <digitalfreedom> in system settings go to boot
[02:11] <digitalfreedom> then edit the boot list
[02:11] <intelikey> Xenol or just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst dirrectly.
[02:11] <intelikey> both work.
[02:11] <Xenol> so i need to delete those parts i dont want to have there?
[02:12] <intelikey> yep
[02:12] <digitalfreedom> dont delete thhem
[02:12] <digitalfreedom> just remove from the list
[02:12] <intelikey> or comment them out
[02:12] <Xenol> and set time?
[02:12] <Xenol> need to edit timeout?
[02:12] <intelikey> digitalfreedom and why not delete ?
[02:13] <digitalfreedom> i dont delete anything
[02:13] <intelikey> Xenol it's all in  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:13] <digitalfreedom> you may need to boot onto failsafe or something in the future
[02:13] <digitalfreedom> id rather keep and not need it then need it and not have it
[02:13] <intelikey> digitalfreedom you can boot to failsafe with the entry....
[02:13] <Xenol> so any way i can do it doesnt show in boot list and can hide it?
[02:14] <digitalfreedom> yes X
[02:14] <digitalfreedom> i dont delete anything
[02:15] <Xenol> so how to hide it?
[02:15] <intelikey> # <-- lines beginning with the hash mark or poind sign  which ever you call it.  are ignored.   same as deleting it.
[02:16] <intelikey> # this is how things are commonly commented out in linux configuration files.
[02:16] <digitalfreedom> no kidding
[02:16] <intelikey> digitalfreedom be nice.
[02:16] <digitalfreedom> who said i was being mean?
[02:17] <digitalfreedom> jusy aknowledging your leetness is all
[02:18] <intelikey> the() { the $ the you say } ; the
[02:18] <intelikey> so 1337 your self
[02:18] <digitalfreedom> be nice now
[02:19] <digitalfreedom> just helping n00bs not make mistakes
[02:19] <Xenol> yeah help in darkness :D
[02:20] <digitalfreedom> darkness? eh w00t
[02:22] <intelikey> the blind tour guide said "don't worry, if the lights fail i can still get you out of the cave"
[02:26] <intelikey> !seen zizer
[02:26] <ubotu> I haven't seen zizer recently
[02:27] <ThePub> hmm, what's kde do different from gnome that doesn't allow alt-tab to see applications on the other screen?
[02:29] <_kuja_> ThePub, there's a setting for that somewhere
[02:31] <intelikey> kcontrol
[02:31] <ThePub> intelikey: where?  which desktop option, because I've turned them all on and nothing.
[02:32] <manchicken> Are there any packages that need a maintainer?
[02:32] <manchicken> I'm interested in helping, but I don't know where it's needed.
[02:33] <intelikey> !contribute
[02:33] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[02:34] <ThePub> KDE apparently treats a Xinerama desktop like it's a multi-head desktop and it's rather annoying.
[02:34] <intelikey> ThePub i don't recall which/where  sorry.
[02:36] <intelikey> it might have be accessable for right click the desktop and choose configure/preferances/whatever it's called.
[02:36] <intelikey> but iirc that's just one section of kcontrol anyway....
[02:37] <manchicken> I think I may try to package Kumula...
[02:38] <ThePub> KDE has too many options for it's own good.
[02:38] <manchicken> Such as?
[02:38] <intelikey> sometimes
[02:38] <intelikey> it does get convoluted at times
[02:38] <ThePub> It's like trying to configure a Microsoft server product.  You have tons of options buried in the graphical interface and poor documentation to back it up.
[02:39] <NewNovice> How do I make monitor power-off time I set permanent?  Presently works only for the current Xsession
[02:39] <manchicken> Yeah, there are some areas that need better documentation.
[02:40] <Xenol> oki ppl dont wanna be total naab but plz tell me where can i download flash and java? from adept?
[02:41] <intelikey> NewNovice check in  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/   ?
[02:41] <ThePub> Xenol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:41] <intelikey> !flash9
[02:41] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[02:41] <intelikey> !java
[02:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:42] <manchicken> Is the GPL'ed JRE packaged yet?
[02:42] <manchicken> That'd be nice.
[02:42] <ThePub> which gpl'd jre?
[02:42] <intelikey> i don't know.  i don't do java or flash or windows
[02:43] <ThePub> You must not browse the web much if you don't do flash ;)
[02:43] <manchicken> intelikey: The GPL'ed JRE is a beautiful thing for OpenOffice.org users.
[02:43] <intelikey> ThePub no by most standards i don't surf much
[02:43] <manchicken> But my wife uses flash9 on Kubuntu Edgy.
[02:44] <ThePub> Flash is a pretty good environment.  Adobe has done a good job of making something that has alot of potential.
[02:44] <manchicken> the "beta" version.  If there's actually a packaged version, that'd be cool.
[02:44] <NewNovice> intelikey, thanks.  I will search the 7 files there to see what may help.
[02:44] <manchicken> I suppose I should check out this program before trying to package it.
[02:45] <intelikey> NewNovice anything with screen or power or apm  in the names...
[02:45] <Xenol> ok i want clear explation when i must use apt -get and wget ?
[02:46] <intelikey> Xenol never.
[02:46] <manchicken> Eww... this thing is MySQL only.
[02:46] <intelikey> manchicken yuch
[02:46] <Xenol> intellikey any procs/cons?
[02:47] <NewNovice> intelikey, files are 20xorg-common_process-args, 30xorg-common_xresources, and so forth. Nothing mention dpms.
[02:47] <manchicken> Tell me about it.
[02:47] <intelikey> Xenol yeah cli commands can be used from a gui or a console    gui apps wont generally work if for what ever reason x is down.
[02:48] <Xenol> damn istart to love kubuntu :D WIN XP sux hard
[02:49] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[02:49] <Xenol> OMG i DLed codecs
[02:50] <Xenol> and still cant play avi files :/
[02:50] <Dr_willis> depends on the avi file
[02:50] <Dr_willis> a 'avi' file could be using any of several hundred codecs.
[02:50] <Xenol> aha so where can i get those several hundred codecs?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> !avi
[02:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:50] <NewNovice> intelikey, what does This file is sourced by Xsession(5), not executed. in those files mean?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> install the w32codec pack normally
[02:51] <intelikey> NewNovice means that you don't run or rerun them that xorg reads them when it starts
[02:51] <Xenol> dr_willis if i isntalled it with wget and apt get?
[02:52] <intelikey> with apt-get   or with  wget and dpkg
[02:52] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you normally set up the right reposiutories.. then use apt-get install whatever
[02:52] <Xenol> so it is correctly installed?
[02:52] <intelikey> you dont generally use wget and apt togather
[02:53] <intelikey> and for one of those M$ packages wasn't there also a script in it's install dir you had to run ???
[02:54] <intelikey> i don't remember but something like /usr/share/lib/w32dll/setup.sh     ???
[02:55] <ThePub_> nifty, changed something in kde that now makes my big desktop into a clone mode after logging in.
[02:55] <intelikey> i don't know what i'm talking about.   just saw it once.
[02:55] <NewNovice> Intelikey, I do not see anything which deals with power.  If I set the power-off time to 1 minute, the executed command is xset dpms 60 60 60.  xset man page says that xset changes are reset with a new xsession.  The question is, where are the default values stored?
[02:57] <intelikey> NewNovice you can add that line to something in /etc/X11/xinit/    or maybe even xsessionrc
[02:58] <NewNovice> intelikey, the problem is worse.  The monitor goes off in 1 minute, but turns back on in another minute.
[02:58] <Xenol> >D
[02:59] <Xenol> which other avi codecs should i isntall?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> I normally install the w32codec pack and thats about it.
[03:01] <intelikey> NewNovice so try   xset dpms 60 0 0
[03:02] <intelikey> or read the man page for xset  like i did   :)
[03:02] <NewNovice> intelikey, thanks. I will do that.  I read the man page, but I guess I had better read it again.
[03:03] <NewNovice> intelikey, I guess whoever wrote systemsettings did not understand it either.
[03:04] <intelikey> NewNovice 0 will disable the setting  so 60 0 0 will standby in one minute and should not change thereafter unless you awaken it.     i think what is happening is the off timer is waking the thing   but i could be wrong,    that's why i said try it.
[03:05] <Xenol> ppl wat is better?
[03:05] <Xenol> kaffeine or mplayer?
[03:05] <intelikey> vlc
[03:05] <Dr_willis> depends on what you like
[03:05] <NewNovice> I understand.
[03:05] <Dr_willis> try them all.. use what you perfer.
[03:05] <triki> totem is good also
[03:05] <Xenol> hmm i like powerdvd7 but it doesnt exist for lin
[03:05] <Xenol> :/
[03:06] <triki> try it with wine
[03:06] <CaBlGuY> !openGL
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <CaBlGuY> !glr
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <CaBlGuY> !Nvidia
[03:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> Xenol: kaffeine is a front end to xine/mplayer
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> in*
[03:08] <Dr_willis> i rarely play real 'dvds' :) i rip them to  the hard drive then encode/play them
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> I use vlc for transcoding but as a player its pretty lame
[03:09] <Xenol> linux_galore, i installed w32codecs and cant play avi do u know y?
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> Xenol: because win32 codecs have nothing to do with avi
[03:09] <alexicon> Xenol: get libxine-extracodecs
[03:09] <alexicon> and libmpeg3
[03:09] <intelikey> Linux_Galore lame....  what else you use for vidios in a console ?
[03:09] <Xenol> ah
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> Xenol: search for avi
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> Xenol: in adept
[03:10] <Xenol> alexicon i dont have that codec pack in adept where from i can get it plz?
[03:10] <Dr_willis> !avi
[03:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <Xenol> ty
[03:11] <BonBonTheJon> hi all
[03:11] <Linux_Galore> yeah, just follow the Ubuntu howto on restricted formats, I followed all the sections so I have everything working
[03:12] <intelikey> or one could follow the other link     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:12] <BonBonTheJon> any one know why konqueror at times takes a very long time to load folders or list the history for the address bar
[03:13] <Linux_Galore> Ive played a heap of avi files now in Kubuntu, no issues once I followed the howto
[03:13] <Linux_Galore> BonBonTheJon: turn some of the preview stuff off
[03:13] <intelikey> i have an issue with them....   they are not free.
[03:13] <Admiral_Chicago> BonBonTheJon, maybe your cache
[03:13] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, i know what that's like
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> Admiral_Chicago: what do you suggest
[03:14] <Linux_Galore> BonBonTheJon: its trying to preview everything
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> delete it
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm more of a Firefox guy myself
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, my problem is that I can't find a good script / program to convert mp3s to .ogg
[03:14] <Dr_willis> http://andre.ihost.za.net/2006/terrible-ubuntu-traits
[03:14] <Dr_willis> Ok..everyone go post a few comments. :)
[03:15] <Dr_willis> hes blaming Linux (and Ubuntu) for the Hardware makers lack of caring.
[03:15] <Linux_Galore> BonBonTheJon: also go into the Setting->Configure Konqueror  then look for the Performance Icon  make sure Preload is marked and 1 should do it
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, probably because he is ignorant
[03:15] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  yep.. i agree with you there.
[03:16] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago check what audacity uses   i think mpg123 or something like that   anyway it just plugs them through a cli app iirc.
[03:16] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: Ive given up chasing fools
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, there was a package soundconvertor but it didn't work for me
[03:16] <Dr_willis> ranting about the numlock on/off.....    sorry.. i cant recall the last time i EVER even needed the numlock. :)
[03:16] <Dr_willis> Linux_Galore,  but its amusing.
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, i use it all the time, makes me feel like a banker
[03:16] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago have you looked at sox ?
[03:17] <Xenol> ppl should i use konqueror or FF?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> scroll lock is only useful for a Unix/Linux OS, (aka only useful with a useful OS)
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  this is Linux - Lesson #1 - "USE what you like" try them out...
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, it's your preference really, I love Firefox, but other people swear on Konqueror
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, no but i'll do a search for it
[03:18] <betelgeuze> How would I install Kubuntu manually? Should I cp teh whoel cd or is there a nice script that I could run. The graphical installation freezes while starting the partition manager.
[03:18] <Dr_willis> I tend to use Firefox - because i have all these extensions for it i Like.
[03:18] <intelikey> and there is an app "numlock"   that will turn the numlock on for you.....
[03:18] <Xenol> Admiral_Chicago so better to have both installed :P
[03:18] <Dr_willis> Opera  is nice also.
[03:18] <Xenol> Admiral_Chicago, i also like FF konqueror and opera, sometimes flock but i canno which one to use primary
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, ya
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> Opera always has display stutter for me
[03:18] <triki> seamonkey
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, Flock is based on Gecko -- the FX engine
[03:18] <Xenol> it is for MAC
[03:19] <Xenol> Admiral_Chicago, i know but it is made for blogging i think
[03:19] <Dr_willis> Geico? the insurance agengy?
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, really social networking, like delicoious, whatever that website is, i think Flickr as well
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, ping
[03:20] <intelikey> gecko the advertizor for the insurance agency ?
[03:20] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: pong
[03:20] <Xenol> k ppl now tell me it si better i upgrade from 6.06.1 to 6.10?
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, have we ever argued before?
[03:20] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: not yet, iirc
[03:20] <Jucato> why?
[03:20] <intelikey> Xenol depends on what you want.
[03:20] <Xenol> 6.06.1 is more stable right?
[03:20] <intelikey> !lts | Xenol
[03:20] <ubotu> Xenol: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i didn't think so either, i had a dream that I got into a fight with someone I knew on IRC, i thought it was you
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> so i woke up angry at IRC :|
[03:21] <Jucato> lol!
[03:21] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  dreaming about irc? thats........... well... scary
[03:21] <Jucato> why in the world would you think that it was me? :P
[03:21] <Jucato> Dr_willis: don't even ask what I dream about :D
[03:21] <intelikey> Xenol 6.6 is LTS   6.10 is not.
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know, are you a balding white man with a gut?
[03:21] <Xenol> !libxine-extracodecs
[03:21] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[03:21] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  we know all about you and your BlueCheese Salad Dressing Fetish.
[03:22] <Jucato> lol
[03:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:22] <Xenol> !where to get libxine-extracodecs
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where to get libxine-extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, I know, i have issues, i stayed on IRC until I was dead tired last night
[03:22] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: balding, no. white, no. man, yes. gut, sort of. lol
[03:22] <Xenol> !:/
[03:22] <intelikey>  multiverse
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> hey, there was a honey in my dream as well (not Jucato)
[03:23] <intelikey> Xenol read the answer ubotu posted when you asked about  <Xenol> !libxine-extracodecs
[03:23] <intelikey> "In component multiverse "
[03:23] <Xenol> but it doesnt give me adress :(
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !multiverse
[03:23] <intelikey> yes it does.
[03:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:23] <intelikey> "In component multiverse "
[03:24] <intelikey> as in you enable multiverse repo and apt-get it
[03:24] <intelikey> or go to the mirror and daviaget to multiverse and dl it if you like.
[03:24] <intelikey> navigate even
[03:24] <triki> anyone know how to remove libc6 broken package?
[03:25] <intelikey> lol  not likely
[03:25] <HymnToLife> libc6 broken package, that definitely doesn't sound good...
[03:26] <intelikey> you can try  "sudo dpkg -P --force-all libc6 "    but it's about like formating the drive.
[03:27] <intelikey> roughly equal to  sudo rm -rf /
[03:27] <intelikey> both leave a few things but nothing useful
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, how can i use sox?
[03:27] <intelikey> man sox
[03:28] <ravermeister> somebody here
[03:28] <intelikey> sox infile1 [ infile2 ... ]  outfile
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ravermeister, 297 ppl
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> oh wow this is a pretty powerful package
[03:30] <ravermeister> does somebody knows a good howto how to configure apache and tomcat, and what i have to do if i want to compile java servlets?
[03:30] <Dr_willis> !lamp
[03:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:30] <Dr_willis> perhaps thats a good start?
[03:31] <Xenol> plz i should make multiuniverse  all my repositories?
[03:31] <junky> what i have to do to play open arena plz?
[03:31] <intelikey> triki why not   sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6[tab-key] 
[03:31] <intelikey> and see if you can finish installing it.
[03:31] <ravermeister> yeah i know lampp, but i prefer to use my existing apache2 and php postgres etcv
[03:32] <Xenol> !multiuniverse
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiuniverse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <ravermeister> i dont want to configure anything again
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, paste you /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:32] <Dr_willis> junky,  install it... whatever it is.. :P run it.... whatever it is...
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | Xenol
[03:32] <ubotu> Xenol: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:32] <LjL> !multiverse | Xenol
[03:32] <ubotu> Xenol: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:32] <intelikey> triki you did an upgrade and it "went off" on you, did it ?
[03:33] <junky> plz
[03:33] <junky> what i have to do to play open arena?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> junky,  and what IS 'open arena' dont assume we all know about EVERY possuible program that exists
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !openarena
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openarena - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <intelikey> and !arena wont help either
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !porn
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:35] <Xenol> admiral_chicago http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36183/
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, i believe the correct name is pr0n
[03:35] <intelikey> porn is that a contraction of pop corn ?
[03:35] <intelikey> :)
[03:35] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  im 'old-skool'
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, in the K mene, run command "kdesu kate /etc/apt/souces.list"
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> no quotes
[03:36] <junky> plzzzzz
[03:36] <intelikey> junky plzzzz  and hurry or we wont pay you....
[03:36] <ravermeister> nobody a good howto??
[03:36] <Xenol> admiral_chicago and?
[03:36] <ravermeister> and how do i edit my normal jdk so that i can compile servlets??
[03:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, give me a sec
[03:37] <ubuntu_> hi
[03:37] <ubuntu_> spricht hier jmd deutsch ?
[03:37] <ravermeister> jop
[03:37] <ravermeister> ;)
[03:37] <intelikey> !de
[03:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:37] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_ you may want to change your nick use /nick BillGates__1
[03:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:38] <ravermeister> vll kannst du mir ja helfen
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36184/
[03:38] <ravermeister> weist du was ich machen muss um jdk so zu ndern das ich servlets compilieren kann?
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> copy and paste the text in the box,
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> save the file
[03:38] <Xenol> admiral_chicago wat to do with that? replace ?
[03:38] <intelikey> !en
[03:38] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> then in konsole, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, yes overwrite everything
[03:39] <geier> habe ubunut runtergeladen gebrannt rein ins cdrom und nu bin icch hier im chat
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !dr
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> err what's the command
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !gr
[03:39] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[03:39] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: you said you did testing with live cd's in vmware?
[03:39] <geier> habe zum 1. mal ubuntu wollte das einfach mal testen
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !dz
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <geier> sry. kubuntu habe ich
[03:40] <LjL> !de
[03:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:40] <geier> folgendes ..... im start men sind wenig programme ist das normal oder kommen die erst bei ner hd install ?
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> LjL, thanks!
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> i couldn't remember it
[03:40] <intelikey> could have scrolled up
[03:41] <ravermeister> ja standard mig is bei ubuntu ned so viel drauf
[03:41] <junky> someone can say me please what i have to do, to play open arena
[03:41] <ravermeister> kannst aber alles bequem per sudo apt-get install paketname installieren
[03:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, actually use this one, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36186/
[03:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ravermeister, what is open arena+?
[03:42] <intelikey> junky you were asked what the hell "open arena"  is.   did you ever answer that ?
[03:42] <ravermeister> i don't know i havent heard from it
[03:42] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on a suc
[03:43] <ravermeister> please i need help
[03:43] <ravermeister> my situation is the following
[03:43] <Xenol> admiral_chocago i cant overwrite it what should i do?
[03:43] <ravermeister> i have installed apache with php fr om the source
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache search open arena : apt-cache search openarena
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> nothing came back
[03:43] <ravermeister> i have editied the documentRoot
[03:43] <ravermeister> to a FAT partition,
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, did you open it as kdesu kate?
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> you're not sudo
[03:44] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago yeah i lookd when he first mantioned it.
[03:44] <ravermeister> and know i wanted to be able to provide jsp files and servlets
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> :\
[03:44] <ravermeister> how do i configure apache/ tomcat??
[03:44] <Xenol> admiral_chigaco should i back up original file?
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> OpenArena is an open-source content package for Quake III Arena licensed under the GPL, effectively creating a free stand-alone game
[03:44] <ravermeister> and what do i have to do with my jdk sothat it can compile servlets
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, yes
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> !lamp | ravermeister
[03:45] <ubotu> ravermeister: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:45] <intelikey> ravermeister if no one in here knows try asking in ##linux  some times you get good networking help in there.   but be patient and don't get bent out of shape if they dog mouth you...
[03:45] <ravermeister> thx
[03:46] <ravermeister> i dont want to use lampp cause the apache from the repos works fine
[03:46] <ravermeister> and i dont want to configure that again
[03:46] <ravermeister> and i heard lampp isn't safe for normal using
[03:46] <triki> why not ?
[03:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, what's your status?
[03:47] <intelikey> lamp=linux apache mysql php     not a package or program, but an acronym from several common linux distro provided apps.
[03:48] <triki> yes
[03:48] <triki> why is it not safe ?
[03:48] <triki> uses apache2
[03:48] <triki> php5
[03:48] <triki> mysql new version
[03:49] <ravermeister> yeah i dont know i have heared it, but by the way apache runs fine
[03:49] <ravermeister> and it took a long time to configure everything
[03:49] <triki> i'm using it for a torrent tracker, works fine
[03:49] <ravermeister> and 2 apache server are silly isnt it
[03:49] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i just want ot know which repositories i have to change to multiuniverse? those first universe?
[03:49] <triki> config is different
[03:49] <intelikey> ravermeister then that's one part of "lamp" you already have.   i'll go out on a limb and assume that you have the "linux" portion covered as well  :)
[03:50] <Dr_willis> hmm.. in the apt.sources the lines that have 'universe' you just add 'multiverse' after the universe word dont ya?
[03:50] <triki> ya
[03:50] <Xenol> yeah but i should do that for all repositories?
 i dont have lampp installed
[03:50] <triki> yes
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, i changed them for you in the new file, all you have to do is copy and paste over your old ones
[03:51] <ravermeister> i installed apache2 via apt-get install
[03:51] <ravermeister> and php the same
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> everything is the same but four lines
[03:51] <Xenol> admiral_chocago sry man post it again, i am confused and asleep by now do this and i go bed :P
[03:51] <intelikey> Dr_willis hehhe yeah.      or actually i just do     sed 's/main.*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' sources.list     :)
[03:51] <intelikey> but that's just me.
[03:52] <ravermeister> okay but in lampp is still no tomcat or something which can handle servlet/jsp files or ?
[03:53] <Xenol> admiral_chicago, sry man post it again, i am confused and asleep by now do this and i go bed :P
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36186/
[03:53] <vex> heyy
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> just open kate in run command, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <intelikey> ravermeister php5 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)   ???    no?
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> copy and paste the stuff in the text box, (not the label with numbers) over everything in that file
[03:54] <intelikey> oh.... tomcat5 - Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support  <--- that.
[03:55] <intelikey> !tomcat5
[03:55] <ubuntu_> Kubuntu completely freezes when installing, on step 5, while loading the partition manager. Is there an alternative way to install?
[03:55] <ubotu> tomcat5: Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.30-11 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 336 kB
[03:55] <Xenol> admiral_chocago i am afraid i dont have multiuniverse stuff there :/
[03:55] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i am afraid i dont have multiuniverse stuff there :/
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, you need "multiverse"
[03:56] <intelikey> ubuntu_ yes the alternate CD  has text based install
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> that's why you don't have any multiuniverse there
[03:56] <ravermeister> okay i have installed tomcar yet
[03:56] <ravermeister> but i dont know how to configure
 !multiuniverse <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiuniverse
[03:56] <Xenol> admiral_chicago so i need to add everywhere where is universe add multiuniverse?
[03:56] <ravermeister> i can just see the jsp-examples programmes i dont know how to set the docRoot for tomcat
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, no
[03:57] <ubuntu_> intelikey: Can I get those scripts and use them with the standard CD?
[03:57] <intelikey> i dont either i'd have to    "man tomcar"  and see what it said  :)
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> multiuniverse does not exist
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> you'd be adding gibberish
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> You want to have a line "universe" and in a seperate line "multiverse"
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> like I have in the paste bin I gave you
[03:57] <ravermeister> okay damn, its not easy and do you know
[03:57] <ravermeister> what i have to do
[03:57] <intelikey> ubuntu_ it could probably be done.    yes.   but don't ask me where to look for them.
[03:57] <triki> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[03:57] <ravermeister> i have downloaded the jdk
[03:58] <ravermeister> but normally it cant compile servlets
[03:58] <ubuntu_> intelikey: ok. thanks for the tip
[03:58] <ravermeister> what must i do
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> triki, i use this line deb-src http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> for his country, etc
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> plus security updates etc
[03:59] <intelikey> src ?
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> source
[03:59] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i overwrote it but in adept i still dont see multiuniverse
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, listen carefully
[04:00] <junky> someone can say me who i can play action cube plz
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Multi-UNIVERSE does not exist
[04:00] <junky> it display an error while i run actioncube.sh
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> multi-VERSE exist, UNIVERSE exists
[04:00] <junky> and 3 steps
[04:00] <Xenol> OMG
[04:00] <Xenol> true i am blind
[04:00] <junky> i do the steps and it do the same when i try to run
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, go to a konsole and type "sudo apt-get update"
[04:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, wait you used my paste?
[04:01] <Admiral_Chicago> the sources I pasted to you?
[04:01] <Xenol> yup
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> in a konsole sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:02] <junky> plz
[04:02] <junky> no one can help me plx?
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> !patient | junky
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> !patience | junky
[04:03] <ubotu> junky: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:04] <junky> oks sry
[04:05] <Admiral_Chicago> junky, it is a saturday night for some of us, we aren't all able to help
[04:05] <Admiral_Chicago> there is great help with the documentation, maybe check out help.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <Admiral_Chicago> or the forums
[04:05] <junky> oks no problem thx
[04:06] <triki> what's the error ?
[04:08] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i get this Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, close adept
[04:08] <triki> ;
[04:08] <Xenol> and  do it now?
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> then run the command again
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> hit up on the keyboard
[04:09] <dbglt> what's the easiest way to update to feisty from edgy?
[04:09] <Xenol> admiral_chicago
[04:09] <Xenol> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:09] <Xenol> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:09] <Xenol> is only available from another source
[04:09] <Xenol> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[04:10] <Xenol> ups :/
[04:10] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[04:10] <triki> dbglt: adept
[04:11] <dbglt> triki: ?
[04:11] <triki> package manager
[04:11] <dbglt> triki: since when did it handle updates?
[04:11] <Admiral_Chicago> then try again
[04:11] <Xenol> admiral_chicago got newest version i only need libxine codecs
[04:11] <dbglt> triki: or are you just telling me to use it to edit my sources.list?
[04:11] <Xenol> but no repository :/
[04:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, hmm let me try somethingc
[04:12] <Xenol> ok
[04:12] <triki> it uses the source.list
[04:12] <dbglt> triki: is there an "update" button, or do I just edit my sources.list via a text editor in adept?
[04:13] <triki> do you not have the "Full Upgrade" button ?
[04:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, try this one
[04:13] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36193/
[04:14] <dbglt> triki: errm
[04:14] <Admiral_Chicago> or if that doesn't work, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36194/
[04:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i gotta run
[04:14] <dbglt> triki: that changes it to feisty? :\
[04:14] <dbglt> triki: are you... sure?
[04:14] <triki> feisty is just updated packages
[04:14] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, good luck, feel free to PM me, i'll get around to it, (eventually)
[04:15] <dbglt> triki: which are enabled by default? :\
[04:15] <dbglt> triki: so it's the same as doing apt-get updgrade, then?
[04:15] <triki> yes adept is a gui front-end for apt-get
[04:16] <dbglt> yes I know that
[04:16] <dbglt> but
[04:16] <dbglt> for example, dapper -> edgy
[04:16] <dbglt> had to change source repositories
[04:16] <dbglt> seems odd that I don't need to do that now, no?
[04:16] <triki> yes
[04:16] <dbglt> with a new release
[04:16] <triki> are you using sources for feisty ?
[04:16] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i am going to bed will use my original for now and do it tommorrow
[04:17] <Xenol> GN ALL and thx for help
[04:17] <DeadS0ul> is feisty stable?
[04:17] <jontec> quick... what's the command to start apache?
[04:17] <triki> apachectl start
[04:17] <dbglt> triki:  no... that's why I asked how to update to it
[04:17] <jontec> gracias
[04:17] <triki> you need to get the apt sources for feisty
[04:17] <dbglt> upgrade, whatever
[04:18] <dbglt> triki: thank you...
[04:18] <dbglt> s/edgy/feisty
[04:18] <dbglt> will that suffice?
[04:18] <hex_st0rm> !gcc
[04:18] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:19] <triki> you need to get the apt sources for feistyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305870
[04:20] <triki> oops
[04:20] <triki> here is a forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305870
[04:20] <dbglt> yes that's fine
[04:20] <dbglt> I assumed I had to do that
[04:20] <dbglt> but from what you said, figured that adept had been made to handle it
[04:20] <dbglt> (obviously not :)
[04:20] <galathalion> how do i play dvd in vlc?
[04:21] <hex_st0rm> !pastebin
[04:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:22] <binary2k2> galathalion: in the file menu, choose open disk
[04:22] <hex_st0rm> im having trouble installing programs
[04:23] <hex_st0rm> everytime i try to isntall them i get this...
[04:23] <hex_st0rm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36195/
[04:23] <hex_st0rm> not sure what could be causing this problem
[04:23] <hex_st0rm> any help will be greatly appreciated
[04:24] <galathalion> binary2k2: its not a disc. its a file on my computer
[04:24] <triki> did you try this dpkg --configure -a
[04:24] <hex_st0rm> yes, look at that pastebin triki
[04:24] <binary2k2> galathalion: yeah, it still works tho, just change the device to the file name
[04:25] <galathalion> binary2k2: how do i do taht?
[04:26] <galathalion> binary2k2: no my abd
[04:26] <binary2k2> galathalion: when you choose "open disk", change "Device name" to the location of the file
[04:26] <galathalion> binary2k2: it doesnt say device name anywhere
[04:27] <spawn57> w00t
[04:27] <hex_st0rm> gah, kubuntu is starting to piss me off. always needing tending to
[04:27] <binary2k2> galathalion: what do you see when you choose "open disk" ?
[04:27] <galathalion> binary2k2: media resource locator at the top of the window
[04:28] <binary2k2> galathalion: hmm, that different to what I have, but still, just change that to the location of the file
[04:29] <galathalion> binary2k2: i did.. get sound but no video
[04:29] <binary2k2> galathalion: can you play it in mplayer?
[04:30] <galathalion> binary2k2: still sound but no image
[04:32] <binary2k2> galathalion: do you have the libdvdread3 and the libdvdcss2 packages?
[04:32] <scott__> how do I find an encoder for a dvd player?
[04:33] <hex_st0rm> scott__:check adept man
[04:34] <binary2k2> scott__: for authoring there is kmediafactory (as well as others)
[04:34] <scott__> ty
[04:35] <Red_Tear> hi ppl
[04:35] <binary2k2> galathalion: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9 ?
[04:35] <galathalion> binary2k2: not libdvdcss2
[04:35] <galathalion> binary2k2: i couldnt find it eihter
[04:35] <binary2k2> galathalion: that link will tell you how ti install it
[04:36] <galathalion> binary2k2: ok thanks. U know how to play .wmv3 in vlc?
[04:37] <binary2k2> galathalion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats will tell you how to play restricted formats, including wmv3
[04:37] <binary2k2> it's the w32codecs part you'll want fot that
[04:39] <galathalion> binary2k2: ok thank you
[04:39] <binary2k2> galathalion: your welcome
[04:41] <hex_st0rm> !pastebin
[04:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <hex_st0rm> !adept
[04:41] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:42] <hex_st0rm> i do believe something is wrong with my installation process
[04:42] <hex_st0rm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36196/
[04:42] <hex_st0rm> any ideas anyone?
[04:44] <intelikey> hex sudo apt-get install -f        pastebin the errors if any
[04:45] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: try running "sudo touch /var/run/clamav" then "sudo dpkg --configure -a" after
[04:46] <BluesKaj> the usr/lib/firefox/plugin file already holds a libflashplayer.so file do I overwrite it with the flash9 file , which sipposedly is newer but the dialog says the replacement file older than the existing one ....doesn't make sense if it's supposedly updating frpm flash7 to flash 9
[04:46] <hex_st0rm> intelikey, same errors as before
[04:46] <hex_st0rm> binary, ill pastebin
[04:46] <hex_st0rm> i got a ton
[04:47] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: just go ahead and overwrite it
[04:48] <hex_st0rm> wha...i did what you said a second ago binary, and it gave a ton of errors, then i did it again and it did nothing
[04:49] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: pastebin the errors for me
[04:49] <intelikey> hex_st0rm now try the   sudo apt-get install -f
[04:49] <intelikey> if it's fixed that should return with nothing.
[04:49] <hex_st0rm> binary, it filled up terminal and i couldnt find where i inputted the sudo touch.....so i exited and tried agin
[04:49] <hex_st0rm> and got nothing
[04:50] <binary2k2> intelikey: it's not a dependency issue, so i can't see that helping
[04:50] <intelikey> binary2k2 that's nice.
[04:50] <hex_st0rm> ran what you said inteli, gono errors
[04:50] <hex_st0rm> got  no*
[04:51] <intelikey> binary2k2 you never noticed that it also tries to finish setting up any broke packages....
[04:51] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: when you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" if you get no errors, then everything is fine
[04:51] <intelikey> hex_st0rm then it looks like all is well now.
[04:51] <hex_st0rm> k thanks a lot guys
[04:52] <binary2k2> intelikey: that's because it runs dpkg --configure -a :p
[04:52] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: glad it's fixed
[04:54] <intelikey> binary2k2 if it does.  then why "<binary2k2> intelikey: it's not a dependency issue, so i can't see that helping"   not that it matters.....
[04:54] <hex_st0rm> as am i, what was with the display errors? i had bee having those for a while
[04:54] <hex_st0rm> been*
[04:55] <intelikey>  055. X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:55] <intelikey>  056.   Major opcode:  145
[04:55] <binary2k2> intelikey: apt-get -f install tries to fix dependences, then just runs dpkg --configure -a
[04:55] <intelikey> those ^ ?
[04:56] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, it won't give root access nor will it permit overwriting  :(
[04:56] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if you have any enteys for wacom, if you do, that that's the problem
[04:56] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: how are you installing it?
[04:56] <hex_st0rm> yes inteli............binary, enteys?
[04:57] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, trying to move the file into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[04:57] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: from the adobe download?
[04:57] <BluesKaj> libflashplayer.so
[04:58] <glimmung> hi all, I have recently upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10, and I love it, but my previously recognized and usable printer under 6.06 doesnt do anything now under 6.10, any help or ideas?
[04:58] <DettoAltrimenti> hey
[04:58] <DettoAltrimenti> what is feisty?
[04:58] <BluesKaj> !feisty
[04:58] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: just do "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/"
[04:59] <DettoAltrimenti> cool
[04:59] <glimmung> did they break printer support in edgy?
[04:59] <DettoAltrimenti> is 6.06 the most current stable version right now?
[04:59] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: no, 6.10 Edgy Eft
[04:59] <unix_infidel> 6.06 is the only current LTS
[05:00] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: but 6.06 is the long term support version (LTS)
[05:01] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, cp: cannot stat `libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory
[05:01] <intelikey> !printer | glimmung
[05:01] <ubotu> glimmung: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:01] <DettoAltrimenti> yeah I am just about to partition my hd and install linux for the first time!
[05:01] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: are you installing from the adobe download, or from a deb package?
[05:02] <musya> where can i find radio stations?
[05:02] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: that's great, if you need any help just ask :D
[05:02] <musya> like their urls?
[05:02] <BluesKaj> it's already been untarred from the download
[05:02] <intelikey> musya google maybe ?
[05:03] <musya> intelikey: why would i be asking here if i havent already tryed it?
[05:03] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: cd in to the directory that got untared, and the run that command
[05:03] <glimmung> musya: i recommend somafm
[05:03] <intelikey> musya lazy maybe ?
[05:03] <musya> intelikey: not me
[05:04] <binary2k2> musya: what exactly do you mean?
[05:04] <musya> for rythembox
[05:05] <binary2k2> musya: do you mean from the live seream that opens from a website, the URL for that?
[05:05] <musya> yea
[05:05] <musya> i would suppose so, its the first time i am doing this i couldnt find anything that worked on google
[05:06] <binary2k2> musya: (maybe a silly question but) do you use firefox?
[05:06] <musya> yea
[05:06] <glimmung> well i just dont understand why my printer worked perfectly under 6.06 but now does nothing under 6.10
[05:06] <glimmung> i did the exact same process to set it up as under 6.06
[05:07] <manchicken> Are there any projects that need part-time help?
[05:07] <manchicken> I'm not looking for anything too complicated, just something to keep me occupied.
[05:08] <intelikey> glimmung you aren't likely to get a lot of help on hardware perifreals around here.    if the links to  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers &  http://linuxprinting.org   don't help you.....
[05:08] <hex_st0rm> !java
[05:08] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:08] <binary2k2> musya: if you got to Tools -> Page Info (or Ctrl-I), then go to the MEdia tab and look for Embed in the Type colom you'll get a url
[05:09] <hex_st0rm> curse java doesnt wanna work
[05:09] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: what do you mean?
[05:10] <glimmung> well that was just wierd, all I had to do was change the usb port it was connected to and now it works
[05:10] <binary2k2> glimmung: on cups (the printing system) upgrade, sometimes it stops printers working, have you tried just removing the printer and adding it again (in system settings)
[05:10] <intelikey> glimmung hehhe actually unplug/replug most likely...
[05:10] <DettoAltrimenti> I'm using partitionmagic to make a partition to put kubuntu onto. Is it alright if this partition crosses the 1024 cylinder boundary?
[05:10] <binary2k2> glimmung: worked for me before
[05:10] <musya> binary2k2: all there is, is just icon, background, input, and image
[05:11] <musya> im on somafm.com
[05:12] <binary2k2> musya: what's the link to the station you want to listen to, that site has a few
[05:13] <musya> ah, ok i got it figured out, thanks though
[05:13] <musya> i got to get going.
[05:13] <musya> Thank You for all of your help
[05:13] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: yes, it's just OLD operating systems that don't like that
[05:13] <binary2k2> musya: your welcome :D
[05:13] <DettoAltrimenti> ah so I should keep winxp on the 'front' of the drive and put kubuntu on the 'back,' right
[05:14] <intelikey> yeah xp may cry if it's not hda1
[05:14] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: yes, that's right, windows need to be in the 'front' of the drive, kubuntu don't care :p
[05:15] <intelikey> xp is like that spoiled brat that you don't like to claim is your kid....
[05:15] <hex_st0rm> binary: java wont run in konq, cant use java shels or play java games or anything
[05:15] <DettoAltrimenti> what kind of cluster size and partition type should I pick? also, will the install disk do the whole 'swap' partition thing for me?
[05:15] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: is it the 'Live' Desktop CD?
[05:15] <DettoAltrimenti> yes
[05:15] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti yes and it will do the whole partition thing tooo
[05:16] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: then yes, it will do the whole swap thing for you
[05:16] <intelikey> whether you want it too or not...
[05:16] <BluesKaj> nope binary2k2 , it won't allow me to copy the file to either the mozilla or firefox usr/lib plugin file
[05:16] <DettoAltrimenti> and linux ext3 partition type?
[05:16] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: the smallest you want to make the linux partition is 10GB
[05:17] <intelikey> 10g  hah
[05:17] <scorp007> what's the package for opengl manpages, again?
[05:17] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: what error are you getting?
[05:17] <intelikey> it'll install in 3g no problemo
[05:17] <BluesKaj> i try using  sudo or kdesu in the run command dialog but it just refuses to open and the the terminal won't do anything either
[05:17] <binary2k2> intelikey: that's the minimum that the ubuntu wiki states
[05:17] <BluesKaj>  permission denied
[05:18] <intelikey> if you use a seprate home partition you probably don't want to waste space in /
[05:18] <intelikey> i'd say 3g /  1g swap and what ever you can spare for /home
[05:18] <binary2k2> intelikey: true, but the live installer normaly just makes / and swap
[05:19] <intelikey> no it has manual partitioning also
[05:19] <intelikey> it's convoluted but it's there.
[05:19] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: what if you try "sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libflashplayer.so" first?
[05:20] <binary2k2> intelikey: I know, that's why i said 'notmaly'. besides I always use the text installer :p
[05:21] <intelikey> last time i installed i used the live CD with no X    i should write a paper on that...      44 reasons not to try this...
[05:21] <binary2k2> :p
[05:21] <BluesKaj> heh binary2k2 ..no such file or directory ...wth ?
[05:22] <intelikey> ls -d /usr/lib/firefox/plugin
[05:22] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: its /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ (notice the S on the end)
[05:22] <intelikey> yeah...
[05:22] <intelikey> {{{ <binary2k2> BluesKaj: what if you try "sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libflashplayer.so" first? }}}
[05:23] <intelikey> :)
[05:23] <binary2k2> I just copy and paste :p
[05:23] <BluesKaj> yeah binary2k2 ...i added the s
[05:23] <scorp007> what's the package for opengl manpages, again?
[05:24] <BluesKaj> lemme check
[05:24] <root> hello
[05:24] <root> i'm the fucker root
[05:25] <BluesKaj> ok binary2k2 , the old file is gone
[05:25] <intelikey> !language
[05:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <intelikey> scorp007 apt-cache search opengl | grep doc
[05:26] <intelikey> scorp007 apt-cache search opengl | grep -ie doc
[05:26] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: now do (from the untared directory) "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libflashplayer.so"
[05:26] <BluesKaj> pk binary2k2 , it's been added to the file ...success
[05:26] <BluesKaj> !
[05:26] <BluesKaj> I mean ok
[05:26] <scorp007> intelikey: hmmm, mesa-common-dev?
[05:26] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: to confirm you have it, in firefox go to "about:plugins" and you should see it
[05:27] <binary2k2> scorp007: that's the development files, not documentation
[05:27] <scorp007> hmm
[05:27] <scorp007> what is it then?
[05:28] <Rug> Howdy all.
[05:28] <binary2k2> scorp007: gle-doc ?
[05:28] <scorp007> gle-doc - OpenGL tubing and extrusion library documentation
[05:28] <Rug> I've just upgraded to kde 3.5.5 and now my auto-mounter locks up at the "What is your preferred action?" menu
[05:29] <intelikey> binary2k2 not acording to the info... mesa-common-dev - Developer documentation for Mesa
[05:29] <scorp007> intelikey: i have it installed. Doesnt seem to have manpages...
[05:30] <binary2k2> intelikey: well then I just don't know
[05:30] <intelikey> scorp007 all i know is how to search,  i don't have opengl
[05:30] <scorp007> crap....
[05:30] <scorp007> Suse has em...
[05:30] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, works on youtube...must be ok ...where is about plugins ?
[05:31] <intelikey> !opengl
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: in the address bar type "about:plugins"
[05:31] <intelikey> !openglx
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openglx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <verbose> i have a marvell gig-e network card using sky2 module(which is loaded) it detects network link, but can't send/receive network traffic
[05:32] <intelikey> freeglut3 - OpenGL Utility Toolkit
[05:32] <verbose> i know the card is good, it was just working with debian, but i formatted the machine and installed kubuntu
[05:32] <verbose> since then it hasn't worked
[05:32] <binary2k2> intelikey: all the documenst in mesa-common-dev are in /usr/share/doc/mesa-common-dev/
[05:32] <verbose> i've tried manually config'ing net info, doesn't work, dhcp doesn't work
[05:32] <verbose> any suggestions?
[05:33] <binary2k2> verbose: is it eth0?
[05:33] <verbose> binary2k2: yes
[05:34] <intelikey> gle-doc - OpenGL tubing and extrusion library documentation
[05:34] <Rug> Any suggestions/advice?
[05:34] <binary2k2> verbose: have you tried "sudo dhclient eth0" ?
[05:34] <verbose> binary2k2: yes
[05:35] <binary2k2> verbose: what do you get with "ifconfig eth0" ?
[05:35] <verbose> and `sudo ifdown eth0 ` `sudo ifup eth0`
[05:35] <intelikey> scorp007 that's all i see that even looks promicing.
[05:35] <verbose> lemme paste it on pastebin
[05:35] <binary2k2> ok
[05:37] <marco> Hello. Is there a difference in performance between gnome and kde?
[05:37] <intelikey> have a 'brother MFD'  the printer will print the faxer will fax,  but the scanner wont scan.     any somebody think they know an answer ?
[05:37] <binary2k2> marco: no, not realy
[05:37] <Rug> marco: yes, but both depend on how much eye-candy you have turned on.
[05:37] <verbose> hmm, it's receiving, just not sending
[05:38] <intelikey> marco  yes.   kde is really really slow  and gnome is lightening fast   use gnome.
[05:38] <xsacha> kde is fast for me :)
[05:38] <scorp007> i guess ubuntu doesn't have manpages then...
[05:38] <xsacha> and i find gnome sluggish :S
[05:39] <verbose> binary2k2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/iZojMq52.html
[05:39] <Rug> marco: fluxbox, icewm, and xfce are all great for old/slow systems
[05:39] <intelikey> xsacha ssssh   you don't want to spend three days helping him make his faster do you...
[05:39] <binary2k2> intelikey: do you have the sane and libsane packages? I don't use a scanner so I dont know
[05:39] <intelikey> binary2k2 yes  and xsane
[05:39] <xsacha> i didnt make mine faster :P just using what came out of cd :P but it does eat up a lot of RAM
[05:39] <marco> tanks. I like the visual ok kde . I think I'll stick with it
[05:40] <intelikey> all xsane will do is say no device found   and  sane-find-scanner   finds it no problem.
[05:40] <intelikey> xsacha hmmm odd.   i can start kde here and it's only 30m ram used.
[05:41] <xsacha> oh it's probably just aiglx
[05:41] <intelikey> yeah
[05:41] <xsacha> 250MB ram usage from Xorg
[05:41] <binary2k2> verbose: what output do you get with dhclient, any errors?
[05:41] <intelikey> lol
[05:41] <intelikey> that's nuts.....
[05:41] <verbose> just no offers received
[05:42] <verbose> but i tested the dhcpd on another machine...it's working
[05:42] <xsacha> intelikey: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/815/cpusc1.png
[05:42] <verbose> also, when i statically assign an address i can't talk to anything on the lan
[05:42] <verbose> or anywhere else for that matter
[05:42] <verbose> i can ping localhost so it's not a problem with the network stack
[05:42] <xsacha> it gets up to 250MB some times..
[05:43] <verbose> i'm rebooting
[05:43] <binary2k2> verbose: I don't know then, you can try with the driver found with google http://tinyurl.com/u4fta
[05:43] <xsacha> i find it very hard to get above 10% cpu
[05:44] <verbose> binary2k2: that's so weird though cause on debian i was running 2.6.17 as well
[05:44] <verbose> so it should be the same driver
[05:44] <verbose> barring patches that differ in ubuntu/debian
[05:44] <verbose> i don't know if there are any for this nic or not
[05:45] <verbose> so much for things 'just working'
[05:45] <xsacha> intelikey: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/534/animationmn2.png :P
[05:45] <Agent_bob> xsacha drop that url on me again.
[05:45] <xsacha> Agent_bob: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/815/cpusc1.png
[05:45] <binary2k2> verbose: well, if debain work, just go with debian
[05:46] <Agent_bob> hmmm not loading for some reason.
[05:47] <intelikey> i dropped the url s both of them  in knoq  but niether seem to be loading.
[05:47] <Agent_bob> oh wait yes it si.   just slow.
[05:47] <xsacha> :O imageshack has been slow since yesterday
[05:47] <Agent_bob> dialup.
[05:48] <Agent_bob> hehhhe    1623 root      15   0 37304 7852 3256 S  8.7  3.1   0:21.42 Xorg
[05:49] <binary2k2>  6741 root      15   0  399m 136m 8828 S  1.7  9.0  50:22.98 Xorg
[05:49] <Agent_bob> mine is still lower
[05:49] <Agent_bob> and this cpu is 350mhz
[05:50] <xsacha> try running aiglx + beryl
[05:50] <Agent_bob> and yes that's kde
[05:50] <xsacha> aiglx makes xorg memory shoot up a lot
[05:50] <Agent_bob> no sir.
[05:50] <binary2k2> beryl 0.1.3 with aiglx on intel 845G intergrated graphics
[05:50] <xsacha> those teo screenshots above were with beryl
[05:50] <xsacha> 0.3% cpu usage :) 99.7% idle
[05:50] <binary2k2> my xorg mem before beryl was 53m
[05:51] <intelikey> i started to install nvidia drivers one time.   it asked do you agree and i said no  that's as far as i ever got.
[05:51] <verbose> so you recommend aiglx over xgl?
[05:51] <xsacha> lol
[05:51] <xsacha> definately
[05:51] <intelikey> my total is still lower that 53m
[05:51] <binary2k2> verbose: aiglx is much better than xgl
[05:51] <xsacha>  8961 root      15   0 1395m 138m 3368 S  0.3 27.9  30:46.12 Xorg
[05:52] <xsacha> but i have ~15MB without beryl running
[05:52] <intelikey> total ram used. 51m  as we speak.
[05:52] <xsacha> intelikey: i guess you dont use any gtk apps?
[05:52] <intelikey> gtk ?
[05:52] <binary2k2> intelikey: I was just playing quake3 tho, so I expect it to be ~50m before beryl
[05:52] <xsacha> yeah
[05:52] <intelikey> konqueror looking at your screeny
[05:53] <intelikey> is konq not gtk ?
[05:53] <xsacha> qt
[05:53] <intelikey> oh yeah.   mmmm let me think.
[05:53] <binary2k2> nothing in KDE is gtk
[05:53] <binary2k2> unless you install GTK apps
[05:53] <xsacha> i have skype though.. that's worse
[05:53] <binary2k2> I use gizmo progect insted of skype
[05:54] <intelikey> gtk-query-immodules-2.0  shows that i must be using something....
[05:56] <Agent_bob> oooh yuck   gtk module path encludes   /usr/local/src/.gtk-2.0/2.4.0/i486-pc-linux-gnu/immodules
[06:00] <intelikey> other than synaptic xchat evolution gnome-games and metacity    i dont think i have anything gtk dependant installed......
[06:00] <intelikey> :)
[06:00] <binary2k2> well firefox uses gtk
[06:00] <intelikey> but i don't use ff
[06:00] <binary2k2> I con't live without firefox :p
[06:00] <intelikey> i do use mozilla tho and i think it may be gtk also.
[06:01] <binary2k2> s/con't/can't/
[06:01] <binary2k2> mozilla is too, yes
[06:01] <intelikey> i could live without all web browsers.
[06:01] <binary2k2> elinks rocks :p
[06:01] <intelikey> irc might be a problem for me tho.....
[06:02] <binary2k2> what client are you using then?
[06:02] <intelikey> links2 -g  or elinks    i don't much like ssl so i don't need elinks
[06:02] <intelikey> oh client  bx.
[06:02] <xsacha> what's that emulated gtk - like thing called?
[06:03] <intelikey> ?
[06:03] <binary2k2> not a clue
[06:03] <intelikey> binary2k2 ksirc is nice imo if you like gui.   bx if you go comando
[06:04] <intelikey> i have a habbit of avoiding what ever is most popular.
[06:04] <binary2k2> I've used ksirc, bun in term I use irssi
[06:04] <intelikey> ff konversation amerok...
[06:04] <binary2k2> but it's rare i use irssi
[06:04] <intelikey> yes and irssi added to that list.
[06:05] <binary2k2> god I love amarok tho
[06:05] <craftycorner> my ethernet card is working fine in Linux but is registering as having error in windows
[06:06] <binary2k2> craftycorner: then don't use windows
[06:06] <craftycorner> can that mean that the ethernet card is fine?
[06:06] <craftycorner> well, there are some things you need windows for, I'm still learning Linux
[06:06] <binary2k2> craftycorner: if it works in linux, it's a windows problem
[06:07] <binary2k2> craftycorner: sorry about the "don't use windows" thing, I couldn't help myself :p
[06:07] <craftycorner> ok, the other problem I am having, it's a Linux issue, I am trying to record video off my TV
[06:07] <intelikey> craftycorner "there are some things you need windows for"    like what ?
[06:07] <intelikey> oh yeah   BSOD  and virii
[06:08] <craftycorner> right now, I know it better than Linux, it will go bye bye when I get Linux under belt
[06:08] <craftycorner> BSOD will record video off my video card?
[06:08] <xsacha> lol
[06:09] <craftycorner> I'm looking for a way to record video from my capture card
[06:09] <craftycorner> TVTime is good for watching
[06:10] <corin> anybody know why I would have lower fps on a game in Linux than in windows?
[06:10] <xsacha> intelikey: XUL was what i was thinking of
[06:10] <intelikey> you could record it raw but that would load an hd quickly.  so you want something that will encode it.
[06:10] <intelikey> xsacha ?
[06:11] <xsacha> firefox uses XUL?
[06:11] <intelikey> oh.   beets me.
[06:11] <craftycorner> yea, MPEG2, although the puter isn't real fast
[06:11] <Jucato> yes, but also uses GTK
[06:11] <binary2k2> if you're feeling l33tish you can use mythtv, but good luck setting it up
[06:11] <craftycorner> mythtv was a pain!  I had to ditch it!
[06:11] <binary2k2> exactly
[06:12] <craftycorner> I installed dvr but can't find it  in my Kmenu
[06:12] <binary2k2> if you manage to get it working, it's great, but it's gotting it working that a bith
[06:12] <craftycorner> I want it to turn up in my kmenu and run, easilly
[06:12] <craftycorner> I'd pass on mythtv if I can
[06:13] <intelikey> i bet there is a way to pipe the device streight through an encoding app    dd if=/dev/tvcard | mpg123 filename.avi   or some such....    (that's just an example btw)
[06:13] <binary2k2> i gave up on mythtv ages ago
[06:13] <craftycorner> lol
[06:14] <craftycorner> I got Kino, but how do I get it to read my video spitting up the puter's butt?
[06:15] <craftycorner> what app can record video being squirted into a computer?
[06:15] <intelikey> that would be a good question for  ##linux
[06:15] <intelikey> :)
[06:15] <xsacha> !squirted
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squirted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <intelikey> worded just like that.....
[06:15] <intelikey> :)
[06:16] <craftycorner> I"m exasperated
[06:16] <intelikey> craftycorner ask in  ##linux
[06:17] <xsacha> !I_got_Kino,_but_how_do_I_get_it_to_read_my_video_spitting_up_the_puter's_butt? | #linux
[06:17] <intelikey> if the normal crew is there.   that will actually get you an answer.   if not that will get you laughted out of the channel.
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I_got_Kino,_but_how_do_I_get_it_to_read_my_video_spitting_up_the_puter's_butt? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <intelikey> i liked  {{{ <craftycorner> what app can record video being squirted into a computer? }}}
[06:18] <binary2k2> you wanna get flamed? join the debian development mailinglist and post a sudgestion :p
[06:18] <craftycorner> hwo do ii register
[06:19] <intelikey> yeah  hay!  #debian would be a good channel for that Q also.
[06:19] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[06:19] <binary2k2> intelikey: nope :p
[06:20] <intelikey> binary2k2 whys that ?
[06:20] <craftycorner> how do I register a nic name
[06:20] <binary2k2> "[05:19]  <intelikey> /msg nickserv help"
[06:20] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[06:20] <binary2k2> you forgot the capitals
[06:20] <binary2k2> thay matter
[06:20] <craftycorner> IT ISn't working
[06:21] <intelikey> not here they don't
[06:21] <intelikey> i did exactly that and get
[06:21] <corin_> my registered nickname is already in use?!
[06:21] <intelikey> -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- NickServ allows you to "register" a nickname
[06:21] <intelikey>           and
[06:21] <intelikey> -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- prevent others from using it. The following
[06:21] <intelikey> -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- commands allow for registration and maintenance
[06:22] <intelikey> corin_ you can use nickserv to reclaim it.
[06:22] <craftycorner> but how do I use the commands?
[06:22] <corin_> intelikey: how?
[06:22] <corin_> recover
[06:22] <corin_> k
[06:22] <binary2k2> intelikey: well shut me up, it works :p
[06:22] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[06:22] <corin_> woot i killed somebody :)
[06:22] <intelikey> binary2k2 ok    SHUT UP !
[06:22] <intelikey>  :)
[06:23] <SupremeBeing> there we go :)
[06:23] <SupremeBeing> thanks
[06:23] <intelikey> np
[06:23] <craftycorner> copypaste of any words on the list don't do anythig
[06:23] <SupremeBeing> intelikey: are you a gamer by any chance?
[06:23] <intelikey> lol   but only for a few seconds binary2k2
[06:23] <intelikey> SupremeBeing no
[06:24] <SupremeBeing> rats
[06:24] <craftycorner> just tell me the command to register a nick name and I can cut and paste it
[06:24] <SupremeBeing> msg nickserv register *nickname* *password*
[06:24] <intelikey> SupremeBeing i out grew that before nintindo was born
[06:24] <SupremeBeing> intelikey: :) lol
[06:24] <SupremeBeing> intelikey: you can't outgrow gaming :)
[06:24] <intelikey> but don't forget the leading   /
[06:24] <intelikey> SupremeBeing why not ?
[06:24] <craftycorner> NickServ- Unknown command [craftycorner] 
[06:25] <craftycorner> I'm getting unknown commands
[06:25] <xsacha> you forgot the 'register'
[06:25] <SupremeBeing> intelikey: It's universal and it keeps your mind sharp :)
[06:25] <intelikey> it should say you must register first.
[06:25] <binary2k2> craftycorner: do /msg NickServ register (password)
[06:25] <SupremeBeing> oh ya my bad
[06:26] <craftycorner> it's not working
[06:26] <binary2k2> in konversation (don't know about other clients) "/ns register (password)" works too
[06:26] <intelikey> not in bx
[06:27] <SupremeBeing> dude i'll take ur name and register it for you ffs :/
[06:27] <binary2k2> then i'll just say "konversation rocks" :p
[06:28] <intelikey> binary2k2 just because it's got one script by default that i havent setup in bx ???
[06:28] <intelikey> -:- BitchX: Checking tables...
[06:28] <intelikey> -:- No information for identify
[06:28] <intelikey> so it would if i set it up.
[06:28] <craftycorner> worked
[06:28] <binary2k2> intelikey: it's not a script, it just works :p
[06:29] <intelikey> binary2k2 i bet it is.  you have no idea how many scripts your "konversation" has.
[06:30] <intelikey> i was stunned to see how many other clients had.
[06:30] <intelikey> but it could be hard coded....   i haven't checked.
[06:30] <binary2k2> intelikey: I looked in /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/ it's not there
[06:31] <intelikey> let me see if i have konversartion installed......
[06:31] <xsacha> i like [ [word]  ] 
[06:31] <binary2k2> if you have kubuntu, it's installed by default
[06:31] <intelikey> nope not installed.
[06:31] <intelikey> i know that.
[06:31] <binary2k2> xsacha: I altered that to point to wiki.ubuntu.com to save time :p
[06:32] <xsacha> and /sysinfo
[06:32] <intelikey> i don't think i have ever installed kubuntu-desktop here....    did on someone elses box tho.
[06:32] <intelikey> only made the mistake of installing ubuntu-desktop one time.
[06:34] <intelikey> i like that much on a good day.
[06:34] <intelikey> less on others
[06:35] <intelikey> i kinda have this hate hate relationship with 'nome
[06:35] <intelikey> and amarok too
[06:35] <SupremeBeing> lol
[06:35] <SupremeBeing> kaffeine > amarok
[06:36] <binary2k2> I love amarok, can't live without it
[06:36] <SupremeBeing> i hate gnome because for some reason, the network config freezes when I enable rausb0
[06:36] <intelikey> !start a mediaplayer war
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start a mediaplayer war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <SupremeBeing> and I can't reboot X or anything, have to reboot
[06:36] <intelikey> i wish they hadn't removed that feture form the bot.
[06:36] <SupremeBeing> lol
[06:37] <intelikey> they casterated the bot.
[06:38] <intelikey> no wait is ubotu got a port or dungle ?
[06:38] <intelikey> well there is something missing form the bot now.
[06:39] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start an editor war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start a desktop war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <intelikey> !start a distro war
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start a distro war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <intelikey> !myself
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <paul___> hey- I need help
[06:40] <intelikey> what ya need ?
[06:40] <paul___> I just installed kubuntu, and I don't know what the 'root' password is
[06:40] <paul___> how do I log in as root?
[06:40] <intelikey> it doesn't heve one
[06:40] <intelikey> !sudo
[06:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:41] <intelikey> read that ^
[06:41] <binary2k2> !start sudo war
[06:41] <binary2k2> :p
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start sudo war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <intelikey> paul___ if you for some reason feel compeled to set a root passwd i'll tell you how.  but plese read that first.
[06:41] <binary2k2> intelikey: you on the kubuntu mailing list??
[06:42] <binary2k2> *kubuntu-users
[06:42] <intelikey> nope not part of the team.  i don't even like ubuntu ....
[06:42] <SupremeBeing> wha?
[06:42] <binary2k2> there's a MEGA thread on sudo atm :p
[06:43] <paul___> agh I just want to mount a drive!
[06:43] <binary2k2> or rather su vs sudo
[06:43] <binary2k2> paul___: sudo mount
[06:43] <binary2k2> and use YOUR user password
[06:43] <manchicken> !start scratching your butt...
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start scratching your butt... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <intelikey> hey i didn't like my ex-wife but i used her for years....   why should ubuntu be so different.
[06:44] <intelikey> :)
[06:44] <binary2k2> try telling that to some people :p
[06:44] <intelikey> lol   yeah i know there are places to NOT say such things.
[06:45] <intelikey> most of you guys know me here...
[06:45] <dbglt> help!
[06:45] <dbglt> upgraded to feisty
[06:45] <dbglt> (or trying to)
[06:45] <dbglt> Unpacking replacement kdebase-data ...
[06:45] <dbglt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb (--unpack):
[06:45] <dbglt>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kinfocenter/cdinfo/index.cache.bz2', which is also in package kcontrol
[06:45] <dbglt> how do I fix that up?
[06:46] <manchicken> Feisty is still unstable...
[06:46] <MotorCityMadMan> wireless network
[06:46] <Jucato> dbglt: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 :)
[06:46] <MotorCityMadMan> wireless
[06:47] <intelikey> dbglt try sudo mv /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kinfocenter/cdinfo/index.cache.bz2 . ;sudo apt-get install -f
[06:47] <MotorCityMadMan> !wireless network
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <intelikey> it's a hack but might work.
[06:47] <MotorCityMadMan> !wireless
[06:47] <binary2k2> dbglt: 1) feisty is a development version and is NOT stable
[06:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:47] <dbglt> binary2k2: oh, I'm well aware - I'm just not very familiar with apt architecture
[06:47] <intelikey> !wifi | MotorCityMadMan
[06:47] <ubotu> MotorCityMadMan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:47] <dbglt> can't really troubleshoot it very well :)
[06:47] <binary2k2> dbglt: 2) dpkg --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb
[06:48] <intelikey> -i  ^
[06:48] <binary2k2> ahh, yeah :p
[06:48] <binary2k2> dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb
[06:48] <intelikey> binary2k2 there ya go.
[06:49] <intelikey> binary2k2 are you sure that's the package name for fisty ?
[06:49] <binary2k2> intelikey:  <dbglt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb (--unpack):
[06:50] <binary2k2> so yeah
[06:50] <intelikey> we all have blond moments.
[06:50] <raul> Is there a way to make kpdf use a specific font. anybody?
[06:50] <intelikey> that was mine.
[06:50] <binary2k2> :p
[06:50] <intelikey> raul pdf's specify their own fonts     no ?
[06:51] <intelikey> that's another thing i have against pdf
[06:51] <dbglt> can you pass a force-overwrite or some such via apt?
[06:51] <raul> what if we dont have the font?
[06:51] <dbglt> or need to use dpkg directly?
[06:51] <dbglt> (just for future reference)
[06:51] <intelikey> dbglt dpkg
[06:51] <dbglt> apt man page doesn't seem to say anything about it
[06:51] <binary2k2> dbglt: no, apt won't pass anything to dpkg
[06:51] <intelikey> are you sure ?
[06:52] <binary2k2> dbglt: do the dpkg command then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:52] <binary2k2> intelikey: yep
[06:52] <dbglt> binary2k2: aye, thanks
[06:53] <intelikey> well apt-get does accept   --force-yes
[06:53] <binary2k2> intelikey: that's nothing to do with dpkg
[06:54] <raul> have a nice day everyone
[06:54] <dbglt> that's just to accept things, correct?
[06:54] <dbglt> auto say yes
[06:54] <binary2k2> it's just to force apt to install, like if it can't verify the package
[06:54] <nikkun> can anyone help me with an odd partitioning problem
[06:54] <nikkun> ?
[06:55] <binary2k2> nikkun: depends on the problem
[06:55] <nikkun> my partitions wont auto mount
[06:55] <intelikey> binary2k2 i know it's not.  jsut an answer to the quarry about force and apt.
[06:55] <binary2k2> nikkun: do you have a entry for it in fstab?
[06:55] <nikkun> yep
[06:55] <nikkun> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315948
[06:55] <nikkun> its in that post
[06:56] <binary2k2> nikkun: have you checked the UUIDs?
[06:57] <nikkun> binary2k2: how do i do that? I have never messed with the fstab in ubuntu
[06:57] <intelikey> nikkun error in line    /dev/ /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
[06:57] <binary2k2> nikkun: eg: sudo vol_id /dev/hda1
[06:57] <intelikey> you can not mount /dev/
[06:58] <binary2k2> yep, that line's wrong
[06:59] <nikkun> the uuid nubmers are right
[06:59] <nikkun> could it be with the umask or gid?
[07:00] <binary2k2> nikkun: just noticed, you don't have "auto" in the lines
[07:01] <nikkun> binary2k2: this is the fstab made by ubuntu so it knows the file formats of them
[07:01] <binary2k2> nikkun: change "UUID=BAF4-9DCF /media/transfer vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1" to "UUID=BAF4-9DCF /media/transfer vfat auto,defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1"
[07:02] <binary2k2> nikkun: and "UUID=38205CE2205CA920 /media/windows ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1" to "UUID=38205CE2205CA920 /media/windows ntfs auto,defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1"
[07:02] <nikkun> ok
[07:02] <binary2k2> just add "auto" to them
[07:02] <binary2k2> that's tells ubuntu to mount them at boot
[07:02] <nikkun> ahh ok
[07:03] <nikkun> ok well if it doesnt work ill be back in here lol
[07:03] <binary2k2> :p ok
[07:05] <magnanimo> ?
[07:11] <nikkun> just poped in to say thanks it worked :)
[07:11] <binary2k2> great :D
[07:11] <jetc> anyone know how to set permission where a certain user can't access a folder?
[07:12] <binary2k2> jetc: sudo
[07:14] <jetc> hrmm?
[07:18] <binary2k2> jetc: what exactly do you want to do?
[07:19] <jetc> i want my /media/ folder and its contents to be only viewable by my account and nobody else's
[07:19] <binary2k2> jetc: hmm, ok
[07:19] <binary2k2> jetc: sudo chown [youruser] :[youruser] 
[07:20] <binary2k2> jetc: then: chmod 700 /media
[07:20] <jetc> ok, thx
[07:21] <binary2k2> no problem, tho I don't know why you'd want to do that :p
[07:21] <jetc> ;o
[07:28] <prophitinc> anyone ever use those sites that are pointless like myspace and such?
[07:29] <binary2k2> myspace = spam overload
[07:29] <prophitinc> well anyways you know the slax background that has the green background witht he 4leaf clover in the middle with big black letters slax under it
[07:29] <prophitinc> well i tried out that tagged.com site
[07:30] <prophitinc> and they wouldnt let me add that picture as my background....so i made my own...please if you will check it out you dont have to join just go look see...if you will...http//www.tagged.com/prophitinc
[07:30] <prophitinc> its a message to corporate america...the dirty bastards
[07:31] <prophitinc> yeah thats the only reason i went to see what all those were about...turns out the site is worthless....amazing that people spend so much time doing nothing on the net
[07:31] <craftycorner> ok, myth didn't work, cuz my TV tuner card isn't what i wanna hook up.  I wanna feed S-Video into my computer from my cable box
[07:32] <craftycorner> is this where I wanna be for advice?  I don't wanna be a pest,
[07:32] <craftycorner> I don't have a TV tuner card, I've a video card, dif animal
[07:33] <xsacha> so you want this different animal to spit up your computer ass?
[07:34] <xsacha> (quotes from you)
[07:34] <craftycorner> lol, send video up my video card so I can record it to an mpeg file
[07:34] <prophitinc> if the video card doesnt support in feed it wont work will it?
[07:35] <craftycorner> um, I am getting signal, I watch video using TVTime.
[07:35] <craftycorner> TVTime doesn't RECORD the feed
[07:35] <prophitinc> what video card are you using?
[07:35] <craftycorner> hwo do i find out?
[07:36] <prophitinc> it was on the box or should have been
[07:36] <craftycorner> checking...
[07:36] <notech> prophitinc: the link you posted...hardly mature
[07:37] <prophitinc> who cares?....that site is worthless
[07:37] <craftycorner> I mean, I didn't build this computer, it was built 4 me.  looking at the KInfoCenter.
[07:38] <notech> prophitinc: if you don't care what it makes you look like, that's fine
[07:38] <prophitinc> but you are saying crafty that the video card has an svideo spot on it
[07:38] <craftycorner> yes, I am watching SVideo on tvtime
[07:38] <prophitinc> what notech it makes me look like what?....its not like it matters...no one but you will ever see it and when the site admins do they will delete it
[07:38] <prophitinc> no harm no foul
[07:39] <craftycorner> ?
[07:39] <craftycorner> yes, my video card has SVideo
[07:39] <craftycorner> just a sec
[07:40] <craftycorner> S Video is the only feed that works
[07:40] <prophitinc> so the vga doesnt work at all?
[07:40] <craftycorner> no
[07:40] <craftycorner> I don't have it plugged in
[07:40] <craftycorner> pain in the butt
[07:41] <prophitinc> ok did you ever find out what the card is?
[07:41] <craftycorner> where can I do a big pastedump
[07:42] <craftycorner> X-Server is what I got when I did a search on puter
[07:44] <craftycorner> is a video card on the motherboard?
[07:46] <binary2k2> !pastebin | craftycorner
[07:46] <ubotu> craftycorner: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:46] <notech> more like a motherboard video is a video chipset, not a card
[07:52] <craftycorner> ok, checking
[07:52] <craftycorner> chipset is KT6V
[07:52] <craftycorner> series
[07:53] <craftycorner> Via Raid
[07:55] <craftycorner> KT6V MS-7021(V1X) ATX Mainboard is what it says on my pampthlet
[07:56] <craftycorner> notech, does that tell u anything?
[08:00] <craftycorner> hello?
[08:00] <SupremeBeing> what's the default size of the swap partition
[08:01] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: about 1 to 1.5 times your RAM
[08:01] <SupremeBeing> Hmm.
[08:01] <craftycorner> can u tell me what to use to turn what's shown on TVTime to a mpeg file?
[08:01] <craftycorner> mythtv is too slow
[08:01] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: over 1GB ram then 1x RAM, less then 1.5x
[08:02] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: K
[08:05] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: any possible reasons why i'd have about 1/3 the fps in a game as I do in windoze?
[08:05] <dustin> Hey
[08:06] <HearWa> I just made the switch from Gentoo to Kubuntu, and I can't believe the differences! I thought kubuntu would just be another distro, but was I ever wrong!
[08:06] <SupremeBeing> wow
[08:06] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:06] <HearWa> Seriously, it's been a while since I've been this impressed with any piece of software.
[08:07] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: that's strange, i have  2x frame rate in linux
[08:07] <HearWa> It even recognized the freaking volume dial on my keyboard
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: Indeed, that's what I've heard
[08:07] <HearWa> But anyways, enough nug-hugging, I have a little problem here.
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: That's what I really wanted from Linux, but it's not coming to pass
[08:07] <HearWa> nut*
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> nug-hugging lol
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> oh
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> eww?
[08:07] <HearWa> haha
[08:07] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: what's getting the low frame rate?
[08:08] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory (quake 3 engine)
[08:08] <HearWa> Ok, here's the problem: I was into kde once and I found a graphical package manager in the menu. I restarted my computer and it is no longer there! What's the command to launch it?
[08:08] <SupremeBeing> Adept?
[08:08] <HearWa> Yes, that was the name. I couldn't remember it.
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> :)
[08:09] <HearWa> How do I launch it if it's not in the menu?
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> in the Konsole
[08:09] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: hmm, i play quake 3 arena, and it's truly a great experience
[08:09] <HearWa> I typed 'adept' in the konsole and it never launched.
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: Indeed :) so how  sohuld I fix it
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: sudo adept
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: must run as root
[08:10] <HearWa> sudo: adept: command not found
[08:10] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: Hmmm, that's not a good sign
[08:10] <binary2k2> HearWa: kdesu adept
[08:11] <SupremeBeing> why wouldn't sudo work?  it worked for me
[08:11] <binary2k2> of you can find adept, the install kubuntu-desktop (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:11] <HearWa> I'll post the output in a pastebin, brb
[08:12] <HearWa> http://quickfry.com/pastebin/view.php?id=21
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: any ideas why i'd have very low fps?  I have fglrx working, glxgears yields good fps
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: Do what he said, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: seems like adept got removed
[08:12] <HearWa> I think I might have removed something I shouldn't have in the last session.
[08:12] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: what hardware have you got?
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: ATI X1300 256 (agp)
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: 3.0 ghz P4, 1gb ram
[08:13] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: do you have the binary drivers?
[08:13] <HearWa> So that command will reinstall it?
[08:13] <SupremeBeing> yes
[08:13] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I have fglrx
[08:13] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I believe those are the binary drivers (but I'm not sure)
[08:13] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: have you tested the fps with the binary driver VS the ubuntu one?
[08:14] <HearWa> This all started when I tried to install libaa1
[08:14] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: well, the only way I can seem to get 3d accel is with the ubuntu one
[08:14] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: the ATi installer never worked out for me :/
[08:14] <HearWa> It said something about removing the kdm, which I thought was really strange.
[08:14] <SupremeBeing> lol ;)
[08:14] <HearWa> I'm such a newb to this distro. :(
[08:15] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: me too, really =)
[08:15] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: I have an intergrated intel chipset so I don't know muck about the ATI drivers
[08:15] <binary2k2> btw, AIGLX ROCKS :p
[08:16] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I   installed that when I was working on Beryl, what is it?
[08:16] <binary2k2> aiglx?
[08:16] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: yeah
[08:16] <rabbycn> :)
[08:17] <binary2k2> It's a was of getting 3D accelerated affects with DRI (direct/hardware rendering)
[08:18] <caseyomah> !css
[08:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:18] <binary2k2> XGL is the (older) other way that the nvidia (for example) cards use
[08:18] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: ok, do I need to do something with that to help my fps?
[08:18] <HearWa> Ok, sweet, it worked!
[08:19] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: Congrats :)
[08:20] <caseyomah> Is there an Edgy repo for libdvdcss or should I use Dapper?
[08:21] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[08:21] <HearWa> Hmm... in kubuntu do you have to install the offical nvidia graphics driver binary yourself?
[08:21] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: Yes, many times
[08:21] <binary2k2> caseyomah: look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:22] <towyc> hello world.
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: weird thing is, I think my glxgears output was normal :/
[08:22] <Hobbsee> caseyomah: "locate install-css" and paste the result in here
[08:22] <towyc> trouble with beryl?
[08:22] <Hobbsee> towyc: ask in #beryl
[08:22] <towyc> i was asking you.
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> towyc: or #ubuntu-xgl
[08:22] <towyc> =)
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> whoops
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:22] <towyc> hey supreme
[08:22] <towyc> lol
[08:22] <towyc> 2 days no see =)
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> indeed :)
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> had to  reinstall again
[08:23] <SupremeBeing> stupid beryl.....
[08:23] <towyc> nice
[08:23] <caseyomah> Thanks.
[08:23] <towyc> i meant
[08:23] <towyc> i don't know =)
[08:23] <towyc> lol
[08:23] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:23] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: them, if you are using the binary drivers?, switch back to the ubuntu ones
[08:23] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I'm on the ubuntu ones
[08:23] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: i don't think the binary ones worked
[08:24] <binary2k2> I don't know then, kinda loas here as I don't have a ATI card in any of my boxs
[08:24] <towyc> hey i just saw geforce 7800gs for 230 dollars, it's the agp version too
[08:24] <towyc> i'm so gonna get it tomorrow
[08:25] <towyc> when my friend returns my credit card lol
[08:25] <SupremeBeing> swish!
[08:25] <SupremeBeing> I hate ATi with a passion
[08:25] <towyc> lol
[08:25] <SupremeBeing> I bought this before I was enlightened
[08:26] <binary2k2> towyc: 1) $230 on a graphics card, wtf? and 2) you gave your friend your credit card?
[08:26] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:26] <towyc> i almost bought a 6800gs last semester
[08:26] <towyc> lol
[08:26] <towyc> 230 its cheap
[08:26] <towyc> the new 8800 is like 500+
[08:26] <binary2k2> intel works great thanks :p
[08:26] <towyc> =)
[08:26] <binary2k2> aigls with no problems :p
[08:27] <binary2k2> *aiglx
[08:27] <towyc> but it doesn't do so well in like the newer games =)
[08:27] <binary2k2> ak SupremeBeing (sorry SupremeBeing) :p
[08:27] <binary2k2> s/ak/ask/
[08:27] <towyc> o
[08:27] <HearWa> Thanks for the help, later.
[08:28] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: No problem :P
[08:28] <towyc> u guys should just check out newegg.com
[08:28] <towyc> they h ave great stuff there
[08:28] <towyc> even if u don't want graphics card, they got like the cheapest everything
[08:29] <binary2k2> even tho I have a crappy intel 845G intergrated graphics, I get great fps on games and beryl works like a charm. thank god for linux
[08:29] <towyc> anyway, the 8800 i saw had like 765 mb memory on it too
[08:29] <towyc> didn't know that =)
[08:29] <towyc> yeah well i got nvidia and beryl doesn't work for me, dAmn it, lol
[08:30] <binary2k2> that's because the nvidia drivers (from ubuntu) need XGL
[08:30] <SupremeBeing> Beryl won't work for anybody that's not divinely blessed by the Pope and at least 5   nuns
[08:30] <binary2k2> (which is crap :p )
[08:31] <SupremeBeing> ugh i can't find anything about this
[08:31] <binary2k2> the pope (and 5 nuns) must love me than :p
[08:31] <towyc> does it matter tho
[08:31] <towyc> cuz doesn't it say aiglx works too
[08:31] <towyc> right?
[08:31] <towyc> i'm new to kubuntu
[08:31] <towyc> so i don't know at all
[08:32] <towyc> or is aiglx the thing that's supposed to fix ati cards
[08:32] <binary2k2> aiglx only works with the beta nvidia drivers from the nvidia website
[08:32] <towyc> oo that might be my problem
[08:32] <binary2k2> but the driver is a bets, so it may not even work that well
[08:32] <towyc> i've given up on beryl so long ago lol
[08:32] <towyc> even tho linux is my main os now
[08:32] <towyc> i only have ms on one laptop and everything else is kubuntu
[08:32] <binary2k2> once you go linux, you HATE windows :p
[08:32] <towyc> but no beryl = no fun
[08:33] <SupremeBeing> true
[08:33] <towyc> well i don't hate windows
[08:33] <SupremeBeing> I tolerated windows until kubuntu opened my eyes =)
[08:33] <towyc> they seem to have a good slogan, clarity
[08:33] <towyc> the new window slogan i meant
[08:33] <SupremeBeing> what's that?
[08:33] <towyc> clarity.
[08:33] <tamacracker> Hey guys?
[08:34] <tamacracker> Is there an app I can download that'll let me listen to AM radio?
[08:34] <tamacracker> AM Radio Stations*
[08:34] <towyc> yes i laughed. lmao, but it's a good vision even if they don't ever get there
[08:34] <binary2k2> I have 1 XP machine (for the people in the family who are too dumb to use linux) and I HATE having to use it on the odd time I have to install updates and such
[08:34] <towyc> so where do i get xgl?
[08:34] <SupremeBeing> i think you have to add a repo
[08:34] <SupremeBeing> and apt-get it
[08:35] <towyc> o
[08:35] <towyc> cuz everytime i start beryl
[08:35] <towyc> it says xgl not found, video card, found
[08:35] <towyc> and then it says
[08:35] <binary2k2> towyc: I think there is info on http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[08:35] <towyc> attempting to open without xgl
[08:35] <towyc> and then gets stuck after
[08:35] <towyc> cool thx i'll check it out
[08:35] <SupremeBeing> i thought aiglx was preferred to xgl
[08:35] <SupremeBeing> for beryl
[08:35] <towyc> yeah me too
[08:35] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if there's a program I can download to listen to am radio?
[08:35] <towyc> that's why i dn't get why i can't get it to work
[08:36] <towyc> all that happens when i say beryl-manager
[08:36] <towyc> is a black background coming up
[08:36] <binary2k2> it is, but ati and nvidia don't have good support fot it
[08:36] <towyc> then why is aiglx perfered?
[08:36] <towyc> just asking
[08:36] <binary2k2> nvidia only havve some support in it beta drivers
[08:36] <towyc> cuz would aiglx be preferred for other things
[08:36] <towyc> but aiglx supports ati?
[08:37] <binary2k2> towyc: i'm not an exper in it, so it may do?
[08:37] <SupremeBeing> I'm gonna try the ATI-proprietary drivers
[08:37] <binary2k2> aiglx is the project that is being developed, xgl is going to die
[08:38] <towyc> binary2k2 i don't know, just trying to gather as much info as i could =)
[08:38] <towyc> o
[08:38] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if there's a program I can download for Kubuntu that'll let me listen to AM radion stations?
[08:38] <binary2k2> xgl is an old, stop gap, mesure
[08:39] <binary2k2> aiglx is the future :p
[08:39] <towyc> well i'll get whatever that's gonna work
[08:39] <towyc> =)
[08:39] <towyc> o btw
[08:39] <towyc> when i use web browsers
[08:39] <towyc> everytime i start a new window
[08:39] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: what's your output from glxgears?
[08:39] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I wanna compare
[08:39] <towyc> it first presents a blackscreen
[08:39] <towyc> and then it shows the contents
[08:39] <towyc> why is that...
[08:39] <towyc> but that might be minor question cuz
[08:40] <platypus> i try burning cd using k3b
[08:40] <binary2k2> towyc: maybe it's just loading>
[08:40] <binary2k2> ?
[08:40] <platypus> it says that my data won't fit on dvd
[08:40] <towyc> yeah it's loading
[08:40] <platypus> my data = 3.7g
[08:40] <towyc> but why black screen
[08:40] <towyc> i don't like blackscreen lol =(
[08:40] <platypus> dvd = 4.7g
[08:40] <platypus> anyone else have this problem ?
[08:40] <towyc> it doesn't ever show blackscreen on any other webbrowser that i've seen
[08:40] <towyc> as in internet explorer and stuff
[08:41] <towyc> anyway
[08:41] <towyc> the bigger question is, why is it that the desktop gadget things always report used ram = 900mb
[08:41] <towyc> when my total ram is only 1g
[08:41] <towyc> i think somehow everything's slower on my desktop kubuntu =*(
[08:42] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: ~400 FPS (with berly ~1200 FPS without)
[08:42] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if kubuntu can recieve streaming music from radio stations?
[08:42] <binary2k2> towyc: it's normal for ram to be 90-95% in use
[08:42] <binary2k2> towyc: it's just the cashe
[08:42] <towyc> but then on other desktop gadgets
[08:42] <towyc> it's reporting 200mb in use
[08:43] <towyc> like they're not even coharrent
[08:43] <towyc> and everything seems slow all of a sudden, always, after like 1 hr of use
[08:43] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: and what fps do you get in q3?
[08:43] <towyc> =:((
[08:43] <binary2k2> towyc: maybe becaue the other gadgets it's not reporting the cache use
[08:43] <towyc> alrights =)
[08:44] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: I haven't tested yet, only just (a few hours ago) re-installed it
[08:44] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: cause I'm getting about 2300-2800 in glxgears
[08:44] <SupremeBeing> :/
[08:44] <SupremeBeing> I should be above 30 fps
[08:45] <towync> oops, i got disconnected
[08:45] <towync> darn it
[08:45] <towync> does anyone know if there is tweaks/sites that talk about how to get ubuntu to run more smoothly? thx =)
[08:46] <binary2k2> towync: how much more smoothly do you want it to run?
[08:46] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if kubuntu can recieve streaming music from radio stations?
[08:46] <SupremeBeing> towync: (I advise Xubuntu if you Reaaaaaaaaaalllllllly want smooth)
[08:46] <binary2k2> (sarcastic question) :p
[08:46] <SupremeBeing> tamacracker: It can if you have the right player :)
[08:46] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: lol
[08:47] <tamacracker> May I get a recommendation?
[08:47] <tamacracker> One that may play AM stations... if possible?
[08:47] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:47] <SupremeBeing> AM stations
[08:47] <tamacracker> Please :D
[08:47] <SupremeBeing> do you have a hw tuner?
[08:47] <SupremeBeing> most AM stations don't stream.
[08:48] <tamacracker> Yeah I listen to 610AM... good info on that station from 1am to 5am
[08:48] <tamacracker> hw tuner?
[08:49] <SupremeBeing> hardware
[08:52] <luca> hi everyone
[08:53] <ThePub> morning
[08:55] <binary2k2> f$K it's morning already?
[08:55] <luca> does anyone know how to make googleearth function with nvidia drivers?
[08:59] <No1Viking> Hello....
[09:00] <jongt> hey
[09:00] <jongt> i think im gunna get kubuntu
[09:00] <tamacracker> no I dont think I have a hardware tuber SupremeBeing
[09:01] <binary2k2> jongt: yes, get kubuntu :p
[09:01] <jongt> binary2k2, yea im excited
[09:01] <jongt> im on gentoo
[09:01] <jongt> not doing well
[09:01] <SupremeBeing> hmm, how do you watch DivX movies on linux?
[09:01] <SupremeBeing> I installed the Divx, but Amarok and Kaffeine don't know that
[09:02] <binary2k2> kubuntu (as well as everythng except slackware) is easyer than gentoo
[09:02] <No1Viking> I'm trying to view a DVD that I mounted in /media/iso. When I try to play if with Kaffeine I get the followong messages: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd://]  etc
[09:03] <jongt> binary2k2, is aigxl easy to get working with kubuntu
[09:04] <tamacracker> I haven't watched a DivX file on linux yet...
[09:04] <tamacracker> im talkin bout listening to AM radio.
[09:04] <binary2k2> jongt: yeah, I have an intergrated intel 845G graphics card and AIGLS works great
[09:04] <jongt> binary2k2, haha im on 945gm
[09:04] <jongt> binary2k2, do you have to use compiz or beryl?
[09:05] <binary2k2> jongt: this PC it about 4-5 yesrs old, and I have beryl
[09:05] <binary2k2> beryl was far too EASY to install :p
[09:05] <jongt> sweet im gunna try to get that goin
[09:06] <tamacracker> Haaahahahaha the Alex Jones Show!
[09:06] <binary2k2> jongt: edgy or dapper?
[09:08] <jongt> binary2k2, i dont even know what that means :(
[09:09] <jongt> jongt, im real new and picked gentoo as first distro so im chillin here on gentoo with broken gnome waiting to re install
[09:10] <binary2k2> jongt: I mean what version are you going to install 6.06 (dapper) or 6.10 (edgy)
[09:10] <jongt> oh
[09:10] <SupremeBeing> anybody know how to use Divx on linux
[09:10] <jongt> dapper probably
[09:11] <binary2k2> jongt: then lookmat this help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnDapper
[09:11] <binary2k2> (when you install)
[09:11] <jongt> binary2k2, what are you on?
[09:12] <binary2k2> jongt: Edgy :D
[09:12] <jongt> binary2k2, buggy?
[09:13] <binary2k2> jongt: I've found it very stable, but dapper is the LTS (Long Term Support) version
[09:13] <jongt> binary2k2, is edgy nice?
[09:13] <binary2k2> jongt: I have to say, edgy is sweet :D
[09:14] <jongt> but more support for dapper?
[09:14] <binary2k2> jongt: AIGLX is included in the xorg package by default on edgy
[09:15] <nino> qualche italiano?
[09:15] <binary2k2> jongt: not more support, just longer term support
[09:15] <binary2k2> jongt: edgy is a fully supported official version
[09:15] <nino> ci sono italiani?
[09:15] <jongt> why would it only have 18 month support?
[09:15] <binary2k2> !it | nino
[09:15] <ubotu> nino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:16] <binary2k2> jongt: because a new version is released every 6 months
[09:16] <nino> ho bisogno d'aiuto
[09:16] <binary2k2> i.e in 6 months Feisty Fawn will be out
[09:17] <nino> ho installato ora kubuntu e non so come scaricare i pacchetti
[09:17] <nino> per favore
[09:17] <binary2k2> !it | nino
[09:17] <ubotu> nino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:17] <jongt> so edgy doesn't have any problems?
[09:17] <nino> salve
[09:18] <binary2k2> jongt: I use edgy as my main system, it's works great
[09:18] <nino> qualcuno puo aiutarmi per favore?
[09:18] <jongt> binary2k2, when you say support, it means what exactly
[09:19] <binary2k2> nino: italiano#kubuntu-it
[09:19] <binary2k2> nino: italiano #kubuntu-it
[09:19] <binary2k2> jongt: I mean security updates
[09:19] <jongt> maybe ill get edgy then
[09:20] <SupremeBeing> I'm thinkin Gentoo now
[09:20] <SupremeBeing> Kubuntu is pissin me off!
[09:20] <SupremeBeing> lol
[09:20] <jongt> lol
[09:20] <luca> does everyone know how to make googleearth function with nvidia drivers?
[09:21] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: If yu want to compile everything then go with gentoo Lo
[09:21] <binary2k2> :p
[09:21] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: ewww
[09:21] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: nm
[09:21] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: XD
[09:21] <jongt> binary2k2, so really only advantage of dapper is longer term, but edgy is more up to date
[09:22] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: how can I play Divx videos? It's not working :/
[09:22] <binary2k2> jongt: that's exacty it
[09:22] <jongt> edgy it is
[09:22] <jongt> that guide you showed me for aigxl, theres one for edgy?
[09:22] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: do you have the w32codecs pacjage?
[09:23] <binary2k2> jongt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy :D
[09:23] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I tried to apt-get it but it didn't locate the package
[09:23] <binary2k2> that's the one I followed
[09:23] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: you need to follow the guide
[09:23] <jongt> binary2k2, is there a guide online for install or is everything walk thru?
[09:24] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[09:24] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: thanks
[09:25] <jongt> binary2k2, thanks aton for the help im going to sleep and d/loadin
[09:25] <binary2k2> jongt: for AIGLX follow that link, then for beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[09:27] <SupremeBeing> good luck
[09:28] <binary2k2> he's a strange one, he says "I want to convert to linux before I try open office" :p
[09:28] <No1Viking> Do I need to add any lib or driver to get kaffeine to work with DVD movies?
[09:29] <binary2k2> No1Viking: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[09:29] <binary2k2> No1Viking: that wil tell you how
[09:38] <max_> can someone recommend hardware for putting togther a box that is XGL capable?
[09:38] <binary2k2> max_: XGL is an old platform, you want AIGLX
[09:39] <No1Viking> binary2k2, is it better to install vlc when I want to look at a movie that comes from a mounted image?
[09:40] <binary2k2> No1Viking: I have found vlc to be good when you want to look at an movie that's UNmounted, anything will look at a mounted image
[09:40] <max_> binary2k2: thanks
[09:41] <binary2k2> No1Viking: vlc will play a iso file, anything will play a mounted image (as it's just like inserting a CD/DVD in to the drive)
[09:42] <No1Viking> binary2k2, I did mount -o loop image /media/iso and I cant see the DVD in the right way.
[09:43] <binary2k2> max_: even intel intergrated graphics works great with aiglx/beryl, I have that now
[09:43] <max_> binary2k2: really?
[09:43] <Zamber> yep, it is
[09:44] <Zamber> if you have good hardware ;] 
[09:44] <max_> binary2k2: i doubt my box could pull it, 768(somthin like that) mb ram, intel i810chipset
[09:45] <Zamber> I saw it on 1Ghz 256RAM and some nice nvidia
[09:45] <Zamber> worked quite fine
[09:45] <edgy> Hi, how can I show  a progress bar while I do cp in kubuntu?
[09:45] <binary2k2> max_: that will be fine, I had 512MB RAM (before recent upgrade) with intel 845G intergrated chipset, AIGLX ran GREAT
[09:45] <max_> binary2k2: someone just said edgy had it on it already and you didnt have to install it
[09:45] <max_> that true?
[09:46] <binary2k2> edgy: that requires use of dcop, too compilcated for mw
[09:46] <binary2k2> *me
[09:47] <binary2k2> max_: (I think it was me who said that) edgy has it already avaliable, you just enable it, it's easy tho
[09:47] <fdoving> edgy: you can use 'mc'
[09:48] <max_> binary2k2: it was someone in the ubuntu room, how do you enable it?
[09:48] <binary2k2> fdoving is right, but if you want a X progress bar, you need dcop
[09:48] <fdoving> binary2k2: doesn't help with dcop..
[09:49] <ajayc> You are all welcome to #ubuntu-cafe!
[09:49] <binary2k2> fdoving: for X progress bar with kdialog, you need dcop
[09:49] <fdoving> kdialog can be used to make the progress bar.. but then you'll need some output from 'cp'.. which you won't get with the regular 'cp'
[09:49] <binary2k2> max_: here's how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy
[09:49] <max_> thanks
[09:49] <binary2k2> fdoving, yes true
[09:50] <binary2k2> max_: your walocme :D
[09:51] <binary2k2> edgy, you can make a psudo progress bar with kdialog and dcop, but i doubt that's what you want
[09:52] <binary2k2> ajayc: what's #ubuntu-cafe about?
[09:52] <ajayc> binary2k2, its an unofficial chan for offtopic stuff humour and UBUNTU PARTY!!!
[09:52] <ajayc> :D
[09:53] <binary2k2> ajayc: like #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[09:53] <heinkel_111> is kubuntuforums.net down?
[09:53] <Zamber> !cafe
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cafe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <Zamber> aww
[09:53] <heinkel_111> or is my net extremely slow
[09:53] <fdoving> heinkel_111: works for me.
[09:53] <binary2k2> ajayc: but better :p
[09:54] <ajayc> binary2k2, yeah far better! they are a bit formal we are gonna have swearing there LOL and main is party!
[09:54] <Jucato> heinkel_111: works here too
[09:54] <heinkel_111> i got it working
[09:54] <heinkel_111> too, but it loaded in like 5 minutes...
[09:55] <binary2k2> ajayc: is there a kubuntu-cafe ? ir is it *buntu generic?
[09:55] <ajayc> its generic
[09:55] <ajayc> :)
[09:55] <ajayc> everyone is invited
[09:55] <binary2k2> ok,  I'll join then :p
[09:56] <JackPhil> 7z -e foo.rar
[09:56] <heinkel_111> ok then, since it is sunday morning and you have nothing else to do, how about giving it a go troubleshooting my kde crashes: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11829.0
[09:56] <JackPhil> i got an Unsupported Method error
[09:56] <heinkel_111> ;)
[09:57] <binary2k2> JackPhil: install "unrar"
[09:59] <binary2k2> man that beryl "fire" effect is cool (or hot) :p
[09:59] <xsacha> :)
[10:00] <xsacha> this one binary2k2? http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/534/animationmn2.png (burn and beam up)
[10:01] <binary2k2> xsacha: yeah, that one :p
[10:01] <binary2k2> rocks don'r it :p
[10:01] <xsacha> :)
[10:02] <binary2k2> i'm sure i meant "don't" not "don'r" :p
[10:05] <jimmy_> au  lidi
[10:05] <jimmy_> je tu nkdo z ech
[10:05] <jimmy_> ?
[10:06] <binary2k2> !cz | jimmy_
[10:06] <ubotu> jimmy_: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[10:06] <jimmy_> dikes j jen tak
[10:06] <binary2k2> jimmy_ : #kubuntu-cz
[10:09] <eloquence_> mew
[10:14] <ubuntu_> mother fucker allll
[10:15] <ubuntu_> fuck you allllll
[10:15] <ubuntu_> suck my dick
[10:15] <binary2k2> ubuntu_: you are ignored
[10:16] <max_> binary2k2: i did what the guide said, but it screwed my xorg, so i had to reconfig
[10:16] <binary2k2> max_: what exactly happened?
[10:16] <ubuntu_> you suck
[10:16] <max_> i would try to book and i would just get stuck at the balck screen with the flashing line at the top left
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ai ma mamele voastre mai sunt virgine
[10:17] <ubuntu_> you suck
[10:17] <ubuntu_> you suck
[10:17] <max_> someone kick ubuntu
[10:17] <max_> yay
[10:18] <binary2k2> haha, ubuntu_ go kicked, there is a god, thanks fdoving  :D
[10:18] <max_> binary2k2:i would try to book and i would just get stuck at the balck screen with the flashing line at the top left
[10:19] <binary2k2> max_: what graphics hardware do you have?
[10:19] <max_> i810
[10:20] <binary2k2> max_: can you pist you xorg.conf in pastebin please?
[10:20] <ajayc> max_, what card you have man
[10:21] <ajayc> i810?
[10:21] <max_> intel chipsety
[10:21] <jimmy_> kick ass
[10:21] <luca> please i need immediate help! I have deleted my xorg.conf file by mistake!
[10:21] <jimmy_> kick ass ubuntu_
[10:22] <max_> binary2k2: i put my xorg back to what i use to be, so it dosnbt have the things i added to it from that tut....still want me to pastebin it?
[10:22] <musya> how do you uninstall apps?
[10:22] <spawn57> luca: uh oh
[10:22] <musya> like mysql
[10:22] <max_> musya: add remove programs or <sudo apt-get uninstall> in terminal
[10:22] <fdoving> musya: use adept manager. kmenu -> system -> adept manager
[10:22] <spawn57> luca: are you noew to linux? and xorg.conf files?
[10:22] <musya> ah, ok
[10:22] <musya> thanks
[10:22] <binary2k2> max_: if you want I'll post my xorg.conf so you can check it
[10:22] <binary2k2> ?
[10:22] <luca> spawn57: not that new, but enough to make ocmplete dumb things it seems
[10:23] <luca> spawn57: I deleted them using krusader, which means completely eliminated :(
[10:23] <max_> binary2k2: and you have AIGLX going?
[10:23] <spawn57> luca, alright then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and you shuold be able to make a new one
[10:23] <binary2k2> max_: yes
[10:23] <max_> yes please
[10:23] <eloquence_> can sum1 help with this: http://pastebin.ca/273984 >> installing ipw3945 for my laptop
[10:23] <luca> spawn57: problem is, I am using nvidia drivers - and do not tell me to install xorg please! I tried some hours ago and destroyed my gui :(
[10:24] <spawn57> luca: it'll just ask you the usual questions, screen resolution, driver, modules, most of the defaults will be alright
[10:24] <musya> in terminal it says uninstall is an invalid operation
[10:24] <spawn57> luca: I am too, how'd you destroy you gui using nvidia drivers, if it's installed then you should see an nvidia option there..
[10:24] <fdoving> musya: 'sudo apt-get remove package'
[10:25] <musya> ettore__: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:25] <musya> i get that error
[10:25] <spawn57> luca: i could e-mail my xorg.conf, it should work for you fine..
[10:25] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | musya
[10:25] <ubotu> musya: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:25] <luca> spawn57: I do not have my xorg drivers installed....
[10:25] <luca> spawn57: hat would really help!
[10:25] <spawn57> alright
[10:26] <luca> just one sec..
[10:26] <fdoving> musya: you can first check that you've closed adept manager, you can't have that running while trying to uninstall things with apt-get from the commandline.
[10:26] <luca> laervian@email.it
[10:26] <spawn57> my config has the proprietary nividia driver though ..
[10:26] <musya> ok ill retry
[10:26] <luca> thanks a lot!
[10:26] <binary2k2> max_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36222/ my xorg.conf
[10:26] <luca> spawn57: mine too
[10:26] <max_> thanks binary
[10:27] <spawn57> k one sec
[10:27] <luca> spawn57: actually this all originated from the fact that some applications (e.g. googleearth) would say in terminal that xlib is broken and that gxl is not found...
[10:27] <luca> spawn57: thanks!
[10:27] <spawn57> oh
[10:27] <spawn57> i havent' tried that on linux yet
[10:27] <ademan>  hey in the installer my friend had the mount point for another partition be /data he went into fstab and changed it to /media/data and rebooted but it's not mounting to /media/data
[10:28] <max_> binary2k2: im going to edit mine, when im done will you take a look at it and make sure im correct?
[10:28] <binary2k2> max_: yeah
[10:29] <max_> binary2k2: thanks, just a seconf
[10:29] <max_> d
[10:29] <spawn57> anyone having trouble with kopete not saving the passwords to kwallet? evertyime I reboot I have to type in my kopete passwords again to logon ..
[10:29] <binary2k2> spawn57: kopete works with kwallet for me (edgy)
[10:29] <spawn57> binary2k2: even after you reboot/restart X?
[10:29] <musya> spawn57: i cant even get in to my kwallet
[10:30] <musya> wont allow me too
[10:30] <spawn57> luca: sent
[10:30] <spawn57> musya: werid..
[10:30] <spawn57> I can get into kwallet fine, add all the passwords I want from any app
[10:30] <binary2k2> spawn57: yeah, works fine
[10:30] <spawn57> but as soon as I restart, kwallet entries are gone..
[10:31] <musya> i know i have to hit cancel for everytime i logon becase it asks for the password but my root password wont work nor my password, nothing....
[10:31] <luca> spawn57: thanks
[10:31] <spawn57> musya didja create a wallet?
[10:31] <musya> yea
[10:32] <musya> for some reason i allways get a delay between my computer and the monitor, could it be a GPU issue?
[10:32] <musya> like the mouses, keyboards, software and etc get delayed when showing on the monitor, it gets annoying when trying to type
[10:33] <Darky> hi
[10:33] <mrdarcy> Hi all , does any body know how to reinstall sound recorder app?
[10:34] <musya> mrdarcy: sudo apt-get install package-name
[10:34] <luca> spawn57: did you by chance received a full mail return mail? I have just cleared the mailbox....
[10:35] <notech> musya: i'd check top to see if something is using an excessive amount of cpu
[10:35] <luca> spawn57: sorry for this :(
[10:35] <spawn57> one sec phone
[10:35] <max_> binary2k2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36224/
[10:35] <musya> notech: nothing is, the most usage i get is %40
[10:36] <musya> its not really being used
[10:36] <mrdarcy> musya, the problem I having is that removing the package is not possible because it is a system req
[10:36] <notech> musya: was my only guess, the only time i see that is when i am doing something cpu intensive
[10:37] <musya> mrdarcy: i dont think you have to uninstall it cant you just update it? or reinstall it?
[10:37] <musya> notech: i am not using a GPU just off of the motherboard
[10:37] <spawn57> luca: nope
[10:37] <spawn57> i got a myspace message though lol
[10:37] <musya> notech: but i dont do anything other than browsing, coding, and messaging
[10:37] <musya> well and compiling
[10:38] <musya> i think its kubuntu itself i might switch to debian
[10:38] <notech> musya: what's using 40% cpu?
[10:38] <musya> at times it does usually 0 or 2
[10:38] <musya> if i run something it will jump up
[10:38] <notech> seems excessive if you aren't doing much
[10:38] <notech> oh, ok
[10:39] <max_> i was running DSL the other day and it was 2% with a messenger anf firefox running
[10:39] <mrdarcy> b4 i had configure an etc file (forgottten already) but now can't open it( says " Audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the multimedia settings)
[10:42] <luca> spawn57: not getting it. :( Could you please resend?
[10:42] <spawn57> luca alright
[10:42] <luca> spawn57 thanks
[10:44] <musya> notech: would you happen to know how kubuntu is differnt from debian?
[10:45] <max_> binary2k2: you in here?
[10:46] <binary2k2> max_: (sorry, I'm all over the place atm) this config worked for me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36225/
[10:46] <crimsun> musya: kubuntu is based on ubuntu which is based on debian.
[10:48] <edgy> Hi, how can I show  a progress bar while I do cp in kubuntu?
[10:48] <musya> crimsun: well i know that much but i ment in performance?
[10:48] <eloquence_> Can somebody help with a problem installing ipw3945: http://pastebin.ca/273986 .. Here's some other info that might help http://pastebin.ca/273986 > http://pastebin.ca/273992
[10:48] <crimsun> musya: there's no quantifiable way for me to tell you, so you're better off comparing them yourself.
[10:48] <binary2k2> edgy: use Konqueror if you want a progess bar
[10:49] <max_> binary2k2: well i havent tried it this second time
[10:49] <max_> ctrl + alt + backspace restarts X corrent?
[10:49] <max_> correct*
[10:49] <spawn57> luca: sent again, a few mins ago already
[10:49] <spawn57> max: yeah
[10:50] <luca> spawn57: ****** provider, it does not receive it
[10:50] <binary2k2> max_: yeah, but i'd logout first, and choose "restart the X server" from the menu (ar ctrl-alt-backspace from kde login screen)
[10:50] <spawn57> i'm sending from a yahoo account
[10:50] <spawn57> might be in your junk mail?
[10:51] <luca> spawn57 could you try laervian@yahoo.it ?
[10:51] <max_> binary2k2: ok, bac ina seconf
[10:51] <max_> d
[10:51] <spawn57> yeap sure
[10:51] <luca> luckily I own more than one box....
[10:51] <luca> spawn57 thanks!
[10:51] <gsuveg> re
[10:51] <gsuveg> anyone know kickoff menu for edgy ?
[10:53] <max_> binary2k2: it didnt crash on me, thats good..what do i have to do now?
[10:53] <spawn57> luca: sent again hehe
[10:53] <luca> spawn57 thanks now it arrived!
[10:53] <spawn57> alright
[10:53] <spawn57> g'luck man
[10:54] <binary2k2> max_: install beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[10:56] <luca> spawn57: I am reconfiguring nvidia-glx
[10:56] <edgy> binary2k2: it's a remote server and konqueror is not installed
[10:56] <luca> spawn57 then I am going to restart the x server - let's hope!
[10:57] <binary2k2> edgy: then I don't know (sorry)
[10:57] <edgy> binary2k2: no problem. thx anyway
[10:58] <xenol> hey i am back :D
[11:00] <mhb> hi
[11:02] <mhb> it's kinda weird, but I'm not able to install Edgy :o) I get to the phase 5/6, I want to select another partition as root and when I do and click on Next the "no root partition" info appears
[11:03] <max_> binary2k2: thank you!
[11:04] <max_> binary2k2: it finnally works
[11:04] <binary2k2> max_:  YAY, beryl ROCKS!!!! :p
[11:04] <max_> binary2k2: and its only a tad bit sluggish, which it wont be once i get my new graphics card
[11:04] <max_> can you change colors? not to fond of this red
[11:05] <binary2k2> max_: yeah, install emerald-themes and you gar loads of choices
[11:05] <xenol> !retricted format
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about retricted format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <xenol> !restricted formats
[11:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:06] <max_> thanks so muchn
[11:06] <max_> i hope you have a very merry x-mas
[11:06] <binary2k2> max_: no problam, glad you got the coolnes of beryl (and merry christmas to you too :D )
[11:07] <Darky> germans here?
[11:07] <chimaera> tey're in #kubuntu-de
[11:07] <Darky> ok thx
[11:07] <chimaera> well, on the other hand, i'm here, but anyways, you get the point ^^
[11:09] <chimaera> beryl looks very nice, but using txgl with the proprietary ati-driver is kind of slow.
[11:09] <chimaera> s/txgl/xgl/
[11:10] <xenol> !libxine-extracodecs
[11:10] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[11:10] <xenol> where from could i DL libxine-extracodecs plz?
[11:10] <binary2k2> chimaera: yeah, xgl is slow, xigls is great (don't want to rubb it in tho)
[11:10] <chimaera> yiu mean aiglx?
[11:10] <mhb> xenol: multiverse repository
[11:11] <binary2k2> chimaera: yes :p
[11:11] <xenol> !multiverse repository
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiverse repository - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <binary2k2> chimaera: long night :p
[11:11] <mhb> !multiverse
[11:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:11] <xenol> !repository
[11:11] <chimaera> binary2k2: hehe, i might using xorg's ati-driver, supports aiglx.
[11:12] <xenol> mhb plz can u tell me to which repository i must write "multiuniverse"?
[11:13] <chimaera> its 'multiverse'
[11:13] <binary2k2> chimaera: I don't actually know if ati has aiglx support, it they do then use it :p I have intel intergrated graphics aiglx works great (how many times have I said that)
[11:13] <xenol> multiverse* to all my repositories?
[11:13] <max__> binary2k2: where do i turn on Desktop Cube, im under that setting and it is checked, but no cube..
[11:14] <chimaera> binary2k2: what crad do you have? nvidia?
[11:14] <binary2k2> chimaera: intel 845G intergrated
[11:14] <chimaera> binary2k2: hehe
[11:15] <binary2k2> max__: have you tried (crtl-alt-left click) ?
[11:15] <max__> no i havent *trys*
[11:15] <binary2k2> chimaera: aiglx works graet with it, it rocks :p
[11:16] <binary2k2> *great
[11:16] <xenol> plz i must write multiverse to all repositories?
[11:16] <max__> binary2k2: do it where? desktop?
[11:16] <binary2k2> max__: anywhere should work
[11:16] <max__> just ctrl+alt+left click?
[11:16] <mhb> xenol: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <binary2k2> max__: ctrl-alt-left click (and drag)
[11:17] <buz> how's support for nforce 430 in edgy?
[11:17] <xenol> mhb i am doing ig through adept manager it is same aint it?
[11:17] <max__> can you not keep it like the cube?
[11:17] <max__> or is that just for swirtching
[11:17] <mhb> xenol: yes ... and write "multiverse" behind "main restricted"
[11:18] <binary2k2> max__: it's just for switching
[11:18] <max__> ok
[11:18] <mhb> xenol: there is a line with "main restricted" ... edit that field and write "universe multiverse" in it
[11:18] <max__> thanks again!
[11:18] <binary2k2> max__: it's still cook tho :p
[11:18] <max__> very!
[11:18] <max__> before this i used 3ddesktop plus some translucency
[11:18] <max__> this is alot better
[11:18] <max__> haha
[11:18] <binary2k2> max__: you're  welcome, any more help you need, just ask :D
[11:18] <max__> have a good night binary
[11:26] <xenol> mhb, on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu it says to write behind universe
[11:27] <binary2k2> xenol: just add universe (and/or multiverse) to the end of the line
[11:27] <xenol> binary2k2 wit text main resticted?
[11:27] <binary2k2> xenol: yes, that will work fine
[11:29] <xenol> binary2k2 for deb http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted i should change it to deb http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse?
[11:31] <binary2k2> xenol: yes
[11:36] <mathiouzz> hi all :)
[11:38] <xenol> binary2k2 i also have some disabled repositories should i enable em?
[11:39] <binary2k2> xenol: depends what they are
[11:39] <max__> binary2k2: sorry to be a bother, how do you set controls for zoom, i dont understand all the diffrent checkboxes, do i not enter it into "key name"?
[11:40] <binary2k2> max__: it will be in "Numeric Values"
[11:41] <max__> thoes are just values though
[11:42] <hyper_ch> what is a dns suffix?
[11:43] <binary2k2> max__: do you want the "Keyboard" or "mouse" tabs then?
[11:43] <max__> what? im confused
[11:44] <binary2k2> max__: are you in the "beryl Settings" menu?
[11:45] <max__> yes
[11:45] <binary2k2> max__: what exactly do you want to change?
[11:45] <max__> i just need to assign a control to zoom
[11:46] <binary2k2> max__: you mean a keyboard sequence or mounse button?
[11:47] <max__> mouse
[11:48] <binary2k2> max__: the default is "Super-mouse4" to zoop, Super is win key and mouse4 it scroll up
[11:49] <max__> i dont have a win key\
[11:50] <binary2k2> max__: go to "Input enabled Zoom" in the beryl settings manager, click on the "mouse" tab, and change it
[11:51] <max__> what are some of the other boxes?
[11:51] <max__> like mod?
[11:51] <max__> and hyper
[11:51] <max__> and meta
[11:51] <binary2k2> max__: that's setup in xorg.conf
[11:51] <ReTyPe> i have ubuntu 6.10, how do i install latest kde ?
[11:51] <binary2k2> max__: meta is normalt "Alt Gr"
[11:52] <Jucato> ReTyPe: it is the latest already
[11:52] <max__> gr?
[11:52] <ReTyPe> Jucato; i have gnome on ubuntu
[11:52] <binary2k2> max__: on my keyboard it's the right alt ket"
[11:52] <Jucato> ah that
[11:52] <max__> oh ok
[11:52] <max__> ill use that
[11:52] <niblets> how can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok?
[11:53] <Jucato> ReTyPe: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[11:53] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: add "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main" to your source.list
[11:53] <max__> one more question
[11:53] <max__> can you not driag somthing across the cube like xgl
[11:54] <binary2k2> yeah, you should just be able to drag to the edge of the screen and it'll flip  (works for me)
[11:55] <niblets> is that Beryl?
[11:55] <ReTyPe> binary2k2: in synaptic ?
[11:55] <Azzco> Hello, is there anyone here that got konference?
[11:56] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: yeah, or just edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor (as root/sudo)
[11:56] <ReTyPe> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[11:56] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: gpg --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D5088
[11:57] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: then: gpg --export -a DD4D5088|sudo apt-key add -
[11:58] <ReTyPe> i had to use --keyserver on first command
[11:58] <niblets> how can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok? I am having trouble with Xine with some mp3s not decoding properly. It is the current version of Xine as well
[11:58] <Stim> hi  i have got a problem with my GNU/Linux Kubuntu. I don't see the directory / , it is not visible.  I see only my directory Home, maybe why i have install from live cd language italian? sorry for my language, i don't speak well the english
[11:59] <binary2k2> ReTyPe: ok, that's because you havem'y set it up to use keyserver.ubuntu.com
[11:59] <noiesmo> !hidden | stim
[11:59] <ubotu> stim: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[11:59] <ReTyPe> so now the source for kde is added, but how do i start the installation of kde now ?
[11:59] <Stim> thanks noiesmo and ubuto
[12:00] <Stim> :)
[12:00] <Stim> now i understand
[12:00] <binary2k2> good bot ubotu :p
[12:00] <Zamber> ;P
[12:00] <Azzco> I still would like to get webcam working in kopete with Konference. Got a problem during make could someone try to help me?
[12:00] <binary2k2> !botsnack
[12:00] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:01] <Zamber> !swiftfox
[12:01] <Jucato> ReTyPe: did you check the link I gave you?
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Azzco> !kopete
[12:01] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[12:02] <binary2k2> Azzco: are you tring to compile kopete?
[12:02] <nino> per kubuntu in italiano?
[12:02] <Azzco> binary2k2: no just konference
[12:02] <nino> cio la chat
[12:02] <binary2k2> !it | nino
[12:02] <ubotu> nino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:03] <Stim> Dear friends now i have go becouse it's late. Bye and thanks from Italy
[12:03] <binary2k2> Azzco: what's the error you're getting?
[12:04] <niblets> how can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok? I am having trouble with Xine with some mp3s not decoding properly. It is the current version of Xine as well
[12:04] <Azzco> binary2k2: It's looong, but a freind of mine said that it would most likely have something to do with Qt.
[12:05] <Azzco> So is there anything special about Qt i Edgy that might have screwed something up?
[12:05] <binary2k2> Azzco: use pastebin to post the error
[12:05] <binary2k2> !pastebin
[12:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:06] <root> binary2k2: i restarted, and when i went to start up it hung at the balck screen with white line on it again...i had to login under recovery mode and do start x in a terminal (this is max)
[12:06] <backtick> hi all.. how to I disable the cups service?
[12:07] <Azzco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36234/ binary2k2, I skipped a few lines but I think that the most essential is there
[12:08] <binary2k2> root: cleck /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.1.log for errors
[12:09] <mathiouzz> hi all
[12:09] <niblets> any ideas anyone?
[12:09] <mathiouzz> have someone got this error when burning dvd or someone help me ?
[12:10] <mathiouzz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36235/
[12:10] <aleksanteri> well, hi again ;)
[12:10] <mathiouzz> hi aleksanteri :P
[12:10] <mathiouzz> i upgraded growisofs
[12:10] <mathiouzz> still have the same problem
[12:10] <aleksanteri> hmmm
[12:10] <aleksanteri> but now it makes progression
[12:11] <mathiouzz> no i only pasted last time the end of the debug msg
[12:11] <mathiouzz> now i've put the entire one
[12:11] <aleksanteri> aha
[12:11] <aleksanteri> you should have put that up before
[12:11] <aleksanteri> now i think it's the ISO
[12:11] <mathiouzz> srry
[12:11] <root> binary2k2: it says (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23 alot
[12:11] <mathiouzz> why ?
[12:12] <aleksanteri> because it makes that progression but a part is corrupted so it crashes
[12:12] <Azzco> binary2k2: I couldn't find anything suspicius...
[12:12] <binary2k2> root: I get that too, X still starts
[12:12] <mathiouzz> hmm ok then i'm gonna try to burn a linux distro dvd
[12:12] <mathiouzz> then we'll see if it's the iso or not
[12:12] <aleksanteri> or
[12:12] <aleksanteri> redownload the iso
[12:12] <mathiouzz> it's a backup of one of my hdd
[12:12] <aleksanteri> pick another iso download there
[12:13] <binary2k2> Azzco: I have no idea, sorry
[12:13] <aleksanteri> then i think you should download a new one
[12:13] <mathiouzz> ok
[12:13] <mathiouzz> thanks for info aleksanteri
[12:13] <root> binary2k2: thats the only error
[12:13] <Azzco> THX for the help anyways binary2k2 :)
[12:13] <aleksanteri> you're welcome
[12:13] <mathiouzz> gtg guys
[12:13] <mathiouzz> have a nice week end :)
[12:13] <mathiouzz> cya :)
[12:13] <aleksanteri> same for you too
[12:13] <aleksanteri> bye
[12:14] <binary2k2> root: did you check Xorg.1.log ?
[12:14] <mathiouzz> and thanks 4 your help aleksanteri
[12:14] <aleksanteri> yeah you're welcome
[12:14] <mathiouzz> ;)
[12:14] <root> binary2k2: thats the only xorg log there is
[12:15] <binary2k2> root: did X start with  startx ?
[12:16] <root> yes
[12:16] <root> and it said i didnt have permission
[12:16] <root> so i changed to root to startx
[12:17] <binary2k2> root: that's normal for a normal user not to have permission
[12:17] <root> ive never gotten that before
[12:17] <root> its always let me startx as user
[12:17] <binary2k2> root: try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[12:18] <binary2k2> root: I've always got that permission error
[12:18] <root> ok, be right back
[12:18] <binary2k2> ok
[12:19] <root> binary2k2: what did that do?
[12:20] <root> it stopped and started kdm
[12:20] <root> should i try to restart now?
[12:20] <binary2k2> yeah, do ypu can login now
[12:21] <root> ok
[12:21] <binary2k2> ypu should be ablr to login as normal
[12:27] <gabber> hi....
[12:27] <gabber> how are you?
[12:33] <gabber> blow me
[12:33] <eloquence_> mew
[12:35] <ZeuGiRDoR> I've deleted accidentally "Multimedia" section of K Menu, how can I restore it?
[12:42] <fildo> *gone(dreamin of a special pair of boobz)
[12:46] <niblets> how can I get helix engine working on kubuntu amarok? I am having trouble with Xine with some mp3s not decoding properly. It is the current version of Xine as well
[12:48] <gheniza12246> channel#azzurra
[12:48] <_kuja_> I'm running edgy right now, but it seems that .... the other engines have disappeared from the repos?
[12:50] <one> how to add a script at boot startup?
[12:52] <eilker> hi to all, what is the equivalent of   xp's "msconfig" command in kubuntu ?
[12:55] <_kuja_> one: put it in the folder /etc/init.d/ and don't forget to chmod +x it. Then, run update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[12:55] <ZeuGiRDoR> how can i sort kmenu alphabetically?
[12:56] <_kuja_> Probably have to do that manually
[12:56] <ZeuGiRDoR> !!!
[12:56] <one> _kuja_: and how could I change the order of execution? I need run it before of starting LVM
[12:57] <ZeuGiRDoR> _kuja_: manually??? all the entries?
[12:57] <_kuja_> ZeuGiRDoR: crazy, I know.
[12:58] <_kuja_> one: I forget how that would work exactly ... I'll take a look at another couple of scripts to figure it out
[12:59] <_kuja_> one: I do believe it involves running it in a certain runlevel though
[12:59] <_kuja_> probably 0?
[12:59] <_kuja_> or S
[12:59] <one> ok, thanks _kuja_
[01:00] <ricanelite> Does anyone here run MacOnLinux? If so please let me know
[01:06] <hyper_ch> hiho, I got a problem with the 2.6.19-7 kernel... when I use it for boot in recovery mode (normal mode does not work), I get the following error messages:
[01:06] <hyper_ch> Alert! /dev/hda6 does not exist
[01:06] <hyper_ch> Dropping do shell
[01:06] <hyper_ch> and then:  Can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:06] <hyper_ch> however when I use the 2.6.17-x kernel boot works fine
[01:08] <brk> hi
[01:08] <brk> i need help with ffmpg
[01:08] <brk> how can i make mpg video ?
[01:09] <brk> ./ffmpeg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 1000 -r 10 -g 300 -vd x11:0,0 -s 1024x768 video.avi
[01:09] <brk> thid 4 avi...
[01:09] <brk> *this
[01:09] <brk> for mpeg or mpg ??
[01:10] <ricanelite> anyone here knows or uses Mac On Linux?
[01:11] <brk> ciao gheniza12246
[01:11] <brk> ciao ubuntu
[01:11] <brk> miii qualche italiano che usa ffmpg ????
[01:11] <innjeh> hi guys!, i have a prob with ATI drivers on kubuntu edgy. If i run fglrx as root i get output like this
[01:11] <willy_> Re
[01:12] <innjeh> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:12] <innjeh> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[01:12] <innjeh> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1300 Series Generic
[01:12] <innjeh> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6065 (8.29.6)
[01:12] <innjeh> otherwise i get mesa driver output
[01:12] <innjeh> :s
[01:12] <innjeh> why is that ?
[01:13] <Bubba_Gump> KDE update today ?
[01:13] <brk> miii qualche italiano che usa ffmpg ????
[01:13] <brk> miii qualche italiano che usa ffmpg ????
[01:13] <brk> *ffmpeg
[01:14] <_kuja_> Hm, I saw some updates yesterday ... just a repackaging though, nothing new
[01:14] <_kuja_> maybe some patches if we're lucky
[01:14] <brk> _kuja_:  can u help me plz ? :((
[01:14] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[01:14] <_kuja_> brk? Probably
[01:14] <brk> :)
[01:14] <brk> u know ffmpeg??
[01:14] <_kuja_> What with?
[01:15] <brk> how can i make mpg video ?
[01:15] <brk> i've created an avi file but in windows doen't work
[01:15] <_kuja_> make an mpg video from?
[01:15] <_kuja_> brk, does that avi file work in linux?
[01:16] <brk> yep
[01:16] <brk> i do that
[01:16] <ricanelite> anyone here use Mac On Linux?
[01:16] <brk> ./ffmpeg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 1000 -r 10 -g 300 -vd x11:0,0 -s 1024x768 video.avi
[01:16] <_kuja_> If it doesn't work in windows, then you don't have the appropriate codec installed in windows.
[01:16] <brk> but i have latest update...
[01:16] <brk> and klcodec pack
[01:16] <_kuja_> Windows comes with very, very few codecs.
[01:16] <brk> .......
[01:17] <_kuja_> mpeg4 I presume? try to play it back with quicktime in windows, it'd probably work.
[01:17] <brk> ok but i can't make videos in mpeg ?
[01:17] <_kuja_> What do you m ean?
[01:18] <brk> the output is video.mpg
[01:18] <ajopaul_> how to disable the dosfsck checks everytime on a bootup?
[01:19] <ajopaul_> its slows down boot up!
[01:19] <brk> tnx _kuja_
[01:19] <brk> :)
[01:20] <_kuja_> brk, You get it working in win?
[01:20] <brk> no...but i searching for the codecs
[01:20] <Zamber> !dosfsck
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosfsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <_kuja_> brk, when I used windows (a couple years ago) I used the tsunami codec/filter pack. It wasn't bad.
[01:21] <brk> :)
[01:21] <brk> k
[01:21] <ReTyPe> can i start a gnome as second X ?
[01:21] <aleksanteri> _kuja_: you use kvirc?
[01:21] <chimaera> ReTyPe: sure
[01:22] <ReTyPe> chimaera: how ?
[01:22] <brk> ok _kuja_ i about 2 download tsunami codecs :P
[01:22] <_kuja_> aleksanteri, oddly enough, I'm one of the few crazy/lazy enough to use Kopete :D
[01:22] <brk> *i'm
[01:22] <chimaera> ReTyPe: kde-menu -> switch user -> start new session
[01:23] <junky> plz someone can help me plz??? i can play action cube
[01:23] <junky> when i execute actioncube.sh in console i have en error an 3 steps
[01:23] <junky> i do the steps but nothing
[01:23] <junky> the game dont run
[01:25] <ReTyPe> chimaera: thx fot the tip, now i am on kde and gnome at the same time
[01:25] <Zamber> junky calm down
[01:25] <Zamber> and give some more tips
[01:26] <Zamber> paste into phpfi.com the code that it says
[01:26] <B-Minus> does anyone know where i can find the win32codecs as a .deb file ?
[01:26] <junky> phpfi.com?
[01:26] <Zamber> yeas
[01:26] <Zamber> www.phpfi.com
[01:26] <Zamber> it's simple as hell
[01:27] <ZeuGiRDoR> B-Minus: for edgy?
[01:27] <B-Minus> ZeuGiRDoR: yes
[01:28] <junky> oks
[01:28] <junky> Zamber: i do it
[01:28] <Zamber> and remember to send the link here
[01:28] <ZeuGiRDoR> B-Minus: here you are: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[01:29] <chimaera> ReTyPe: you're welcome.
[01:29] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183305
[01:29] <B-Minus> ZeuGiRDoR: tnx
[01:30] <aspedia> I want to monitor mysql service on a remote machine with nagios. Firewall is blocking 3306, so I want to create a persistent tunnel with ssh. What Have I to do to get this running?
[01:30] <aspedia> Is there anywhere a howto?
[01:30] <Zamber> jumky what type of graphic card do you have?
[01:31] <junky> nvida 7800
[01:31] <junky> xfx
[01:31] <Zamber> type glxinfo and look if the direct rendering: in the 3rd line is Yes
[01:32] <xenol> plz where can i find abitilz to edit gtub.lst though system settings,
[01:33] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183309
[01:33] <junky> here are all the glzinfo
[01:33] <junky> i dont see rendering...
[01:33] <junky> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:34] <Zamber> how long do you have kubuntu?
[01:34] <Zamber> and how many 3d games did you run till now
[01:34] <xenol> where can i edit GRUB boot conf plz anyone
[01:35] <junky> any 3d game
[01:35] <junky> and kubuntu one day :)
[01:35] <junky> im am totally new
[01:35] <junky> i have win with games... but i like to use linux....
[01:35] <Zamber> xenol /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:36] <xenol> zamber and somehow though system?
[01:36] <Zamber> junky it looks like you have not configured your graphic card
[01:36] <Zamber> xenol run sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:36] <Zamber> xenol google for grub configurating
[01:37] <junky> ....
[01:37] <Zamber> it's simple
[01:37] <junky> ang what i have to do
[01:37] <Zamber> junky you have to get DRI working ;)
[01:37] <xenol> ok
[01:37] <Zamber> Direct Rendering Infrastrusture
[01:37] <junky> xenol: use supergrub is a good bootable program
[01:37] <junky> ...
[01:37] <junky> oks...
[01:37] <junky> any tutorial or somthing similar???
[01:37] <junky> im totally new..
[01:38] <Zamber> junky http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250070 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=480085
[01:38] <Zamber> !dri
[01:38] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[01:38] <Zamber> !nvidia
[01:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:38] <Zamber> ;)
[01:38] <junky> i have to install?
[01:38] <Zamber> yep
[01:38] <Zamber> it's quite simple
[01:38] <junky> oks i have the drivers but not installed
[01:38] <junky> ...
[01:39] <Zamber> wait
[01:39] <Zamber> don not determine that in the first plkace
[01:39] <Zamber> even if you have it
[01:39] <Zamber> reinstall it as it is in the howto
[01:39] <junky> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8776-pkg2.run
[01:39] <junky> but not installed
[01:39] <junky> i only download it
[01:40] <junky> i have this
[01:40] <Zamber> look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <xenol> !paste
[01:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:41] <Zamber> junky https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:41] <eilker> !autostart
[01:41] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[01:42] <happytiger> Hi ppl I am having trouble with my keyboard. When I run normal x session on kubuntu 6.10 all is fine, but when I run xgl session running on display :1 whereas regular xsession runs on display :0, then my I cant write the "add" sign anymore despite the fact I have local danish letters working perfectly.
[01:42] <Zamber> junky that last link is a very nice howto, wish I had found one like this when I was installing mine ati xD
[01:43] <happytiger> So how do I speicy which keyboard layout is to be used for display :1?
[01:44] <junky> oks...
[01:45] <junky> but what i have? linux-image-amd64-generic or k8 or xeon???
[01:46] <Zamber> junky look at your motherboard or run sysinfo
[01:46] <junky> sysinfo dont run
[01:46] <Zamber> if you have'nt got sysinfo
[01:46] <Zamber> yeah :p
[01:47] <Zamber> run it form the K menu
[01:48] <Jucato> kinfocenter
[01:48] <junky> i dont see it
[01:48] <Zamber> so run: sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[01:49] <happytiger> Also in kde systemmenu I cant choose any keyboard layouts
[01:49] <Jucato> doesn't KInfoCenter already do something like that?
[01:49] <aleksanteri> hey anyone know what's the command to list all programs avaivable via apt-get?
[01:49] <junky> oks thx
[01:50] <willy_> je voudrais bien avoir les configuration d'installation de ma Kubuntu, j'ai modifier quelque truc mais je voudrais revenire  avant, a la place de formater et rinstaller, on pourraisfaire comment?
[01:51] <Jucato> !fr | willy_
[01:51] <ubotu> willy_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:53] <willy_> ok
[01:54] <Zamber> aleksanteri you can try /sudo apt-cache search phrase/ for searching a certain package
[01:55] <Zamber> for listing all packages use adept or synaptic
[01:55] <mrdarcy> hi All
[01:55] <aleksanteri> ok
[01:55] <mrdarcy> does anybody know how to "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings"
[01:56] <mrdarcy> for sound recorder
[01:56] <mrdarcy> i mean how to solve this error from sound recorder "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings."
[01:58] <eilker> Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0
[01:58] <eilker> why do i have gconf ?? this is kde, i dont have gnome
[02:03] <Zamber> !xgl
[02:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:03] <junky> lol
[02:03] <junky> i do
[02:03] <junky> that but actioncube say the same
[02:04] <junky> your platform does not have a pre-compiled cube client
[02:05] <ganymed_> hi
[02:05] <ganymed_> edgy is considered stable, is it?
[02:05] <Zamber> junky try googling for this problem
[02:06] <junky> oks...
[02:10] <Zamber> !JAMin
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JAMin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <eilker> are all start-up scripts for services  in   /etc/init.d/   ??
[02:18] <aeduf> Hallo Leute, ich bin seit 3 Stunden Glcklicher Kubuntuuser. Nach etlichen Gentoo Installationen war die kubuntu installation purer Luxus; und alles Funktioniert. Nur mchte ich in der Kontrollleiste rechts unten einen Ausschaltknopf hinplatzieren. ist das irgendwie mglich?
[02:19] <Lynoure> !de
[02:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:19] <delight> aeduf kubuntu-de
[02:19] <ganymed_> when i click on a symbol for a removable drive on my desktop all konqueror is opened, but the drive isn't mounted. i have to explicitely click on mount drive. why is this so?
[02:20] <tmk> hi
[02:21] <tmk> ich installiere grade kubuntu auf ubuntu
[02:21] <Lynoure> aeduf: But if you understand English, we can of course try to help you here. (but so far I only understood 3 hours, luxury and that all works...)
[02:21] <tmk> wo kann ich KDE als Standard-Desktop einstellen?
[02:21] <junky> in konsole what i have to put to se volumen of souds?
[02:21] <tmk> aeduf: das ist relativ einfach
[02:21] <junky> ...mixer
[02:22] <tmk> aeduf: rchte Maustaste - kontextmen
[02:22] <tmk> aeduf: da kannst du diverse Knpfe ergnzen
[02:22] <Jucato> !de
[02:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:22] <junky> plz
[02:22] <tmk> junky: sorry
[02:22] <ganymed_> once again, in case sb missed it :)
[02:22] <ganymed_> when i click on a symbol for a removable drive on my desktop all konqueror is opened, but the drive isn't mounted. i have to explicitely click on mount drive. why is this so?
[02:23] <junky> what i have to put in konsole to see volumen
[02:23] <eilker> tmk: kannst du spreche english ?
[02:23] <junky> (...)mixer...
[02:23] <junky> i dont remember
[02:23] <aeduf> Danke. aber delight hat mir alles  schon erklrt.
[02:23] <ganymed_> used to be different in dapper
[02:23] <junky> susamixer?
[02:23] <junky> nops
[02:23] <aeduf> peinlich, peinlich (-:
[02:23] <tmk> i just installed ubuntu and want to switch to Kubuntu - how can I configure kdm to start kde by default?
[02:23] <junky> it isnt susa mixer
[02:24] <ganymed_> tmk: just install kubuntu-desktop
[02:24] <xenol> !GRUB splashscreens
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GRUB splashscreens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <tmk> ganymed_: thx
[02:24] <xenol> GRUB
[02:24] <xenol> !GRUB
[02:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:24] <eilker> tmk: isnt it from login screen ?
[02:25] <xenol> plz can anyone gimme some link to gallery with kubuntu splashscreens?
[02:25] <tmk> eilker: i'm just downloading 400 MB KDE packages, I just wanted to prepare
[02:25] <ganymed_> concerning grub: when i put a kernel file in /boot and edit menu.lst and do grub-install... grub tells me at boot-up "file cannot be found." why?
[02:26] <ganymed_> come on, two questions and no answers...?
[02:27] <cathal> since only recently all video files while playing in kaffeine, the picture slows down when i go to full-screen mode, any ideas?
[02:28] <eilker> tmk: i am not sure but u gonna have a login screen, and u should able to choose from that screen
[02:28] <apokryphos> ganymed_: non-kde related questions are often better asked in #ubuntu
[02:28] <tmk> eilker: thx, I'll try
[02:29] <_alex_> "E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4" what's wrong?
[02:30] <apokryphos> !info gcc-3.4
[02:30] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 4524 kB
[02:30] <apokryphos> you don't have the proper repositories enabled, somehow
[02:30] <apokryphos> _alex_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:30] <_alex_> ok thanks
[02:31] <TheGateKeeper> _alex_, what does this return: dpkg -l | grep gcc ?
[02:32] <mc__> TheGateKeeper: TIAS
[02:32] <ganymed_> ok, then my first again
[02:32] <ganymed_> when i click on a symbol for a removable drive on my desktop all konqueror is opened, but the drive isn't mounted. i have to explicitely click on mount drive. why is this so?
[02:32] <_alex_> The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)
[02:32] <_alex_> ii  gcc-4.0-base                           4.0.3-1ubuntu5
[02:33] <ganymed_> and my drives are not shown on the desktop anymore (i have set the mount points manually)
[02:33] <ganymed_> god, i miss dapper
[02:34] <eilker> which one is better kdesu konqueror or sudo konqueror ? in console
[02:34] <Jucato> eilker: kdesu
[02:34] <Jucato> !kdesu | eilker
[02:34] <ubotu> eilker: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:35] <ganymed_> a root login would be the best... but that is only my opinion obviously
[02:35] <Jucato> ganymed_: Kubuntu discourages enabling the root account or a graphical root login
[02:36] <ganymed_> i know this. and it is... well... senseless. but let's not get into this discussion. the bad thing about ubuntu is that enabling the root account just messes up the system
[02:38] <eilker> jucato: i have /etc/init.d/no-ip   , i open konqueror with root rights, but it still doesnt allow me to delete no-ip
[02:39] <eilker> jucato: i open with "kdesu konqueror"
[02:39] <ganymed_> ok, another question: how do i use knetworkmanager. i used to start it and it did find networks via iwlist etc. now it just doesn't find anything. does anybody know why?
[02:39] <ganymed_> NetworkManager is running
[02:40] <Jucato> eilker: that should work... if it doesn't, try "sudo rm /etc/init.d/no-ip" (if it's a file) or go to /etc/init.d then "sudo rm no-ip" to be safer. just take note that once deleted in the command line, it's really gone. not trash bin
[02:41] <eilker> jucato: ohh i cant take that risk, may be system crashs, it is for dynamic dns...
[02:42] <_alex_> cc
[02:42] <junky> hello
[02:43] <junky> why i cant run actioncube????
[02:44] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183329 here my problem...
[02:45] <junky> plz
[02:46] <TheGateKeeper> junky, did you notice the instructions at the top
[02:46] <TheGateKeeper> ?
[02:46] <rolando> hola
[02:46] <junky> ?
[02:46] <rolando> i have a question about adept
[02:47] <junky> what instuctions?
[02:47] <rolando> when im installing something that needs that i agree with some license, how can i accept when using adept?
[02:47] <ganymed_> what do i have to do to use knetworkmanager? eth1 is set to auto, NetworkManager is running. but no networks visible. so what is wrong?
[02:47] <Jucato> rolando: unless you're trying to install Java, Flash, or VMWare Player, you usually just press Tab and/or the cursor keys to select the OK/Accept button the press Enter
[02:48] <TheGateKeeper> junky, Please follow the following steps....   <--- ring any bells?
[02:48] <rolando> Jucato: im trying to instal xfce
[02:48] <Jucato> :O
[02:48] <rolando> Jucato: so there is no wat to accept?
[02:48] <junky> yes i do
[02:48] <junky> but nothing
[02:48] <Jucato> why would there be a license agreement for xfce? :O
[02:48] <junky> i install the nvidia drivers to
[02:49] <rolando> Jucato: its not a license agreement is something else
[02:49] <Jucato> is it asking you for something that needs to be answered by Y/N ?
[02:49] <rolando> Jucato: but, it worked with tab, thanx :)
[02:49] <Jucato> well you said it was a license...
[02:49] <rolando> i knkow, it happened with java
[02:49] <rolando> and others
[02:50] <rolando> and i had to go with apt-get
[02:50] <TheGateKeeper> rolando, use synaptic
[02:50] <rolando> since adept is all about mouse it should be possible to accept with mouse...
[02:50] <rolando> TheGateKeeper: aint adept == synaptic?
[02:51] <TheGateKeeper> rolando, it gives you access to a terminal window to agree to stuff
[02:51] <Jucato> Synaptic has some features that Adept doesn't have
[02:51] <Jucato> like the ability to accept those licenses
[02:51] <rolando> TheGateKeeper: thanx, ill try it next time
[02:51] <rolando> that is someting very nice
[02:51] <TheGateKeeper> synaptic == gui installer, adept == pathetic attempt at gui installer
[02:51] <rolando> but since adept is what comes with kubuntu is the one im using
[02:52] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: but then again, Synaptic == older == more people to work on it == more time to work on it
[02:52] <rolando> ok, so shoud i switch to synaptic?
[02:52] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, adept == reinventing the wheel for sod all benifit
[02:52] <rolando> or adept will be the standard
[02:52] <junky> i cant run open arena or action cube...
[02:53] <junky> one say an error and the other say no such file or directory
[02:53] <junky> and it is good de archive and the directori
[02:53] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: then again Synaptic doesn't use Qt or KDE libs, meaning it's not well integrated into the system
[02:54] <Jucato> rolando: Adept won't be the standard package manager for KDE. last I heard, KDE practically left it to the distributors to choose/make their own
[02:54] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, pzeh, who cares, it works
[02:54] <Jucato> the command line works, too. :)
[02:54] <rolando> but i dont knkow how to look for packages with command line
[02:55] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, if you are that worried about that you port it to qt then improve it
[02:55] <rolando> no easy search
[02:55] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: I'm not that worried. whatever gave you the idea that I was
[02:55] <rolando> thanx both, gonna try xfce
[02:56] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, the minute you started trying to have an arguement about might have been a bit of a give away lol
[02:56] <Jucato> I wasn't even trying to have an argument
[02:57] <Jucato> last I checked, I was merely laying out the facts. it's up to you to interpret whether I was arguing or not
[02:58] <Jucato> (I wasn't, anyway)
[02:58] <junky> why open arena and sauerbraten say the same error??
[02:59] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183338
[02:59] <junky> this put
[02:59] <junky> and i do this make install, but it says many errors
[03:01] <junky> plz
[03:01] <nuxil> junky, you need Sauerbraten client.
[03:01] <junky> yes i have it
[03:02] <nuxil> 1) Ensure you have the SDL, SDL-image, SDL-mixer, and OpenGL libraries installed.
[03:02] <junky> and also action cube client
[03:02] <junky> ?
[03:02] <junky> what is?
[03:02] <xenol> plz can someone tell me how can i change GRUB splahscreen?
[03:03] <nuxil> xenol, #grub
[03:03] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[03:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:03] <os2mac> anyone got an idea about when Kubuntu is going to incorperate 2.6.19X
[03:03] <MidMark> Hi, I've a problem with a pci modem with conexant chip, I have visited www.linuxant.com but there in o precompiled module for hcf and the installer fails to compile (I have buid essential) because a conflicts with other alsa module
[03:03] <MidMark> someone can help me?
[03:04] <MidMark> os2mac: with feisty, v7.04
[03:05] <os2mac> so what is feisty herd 1? rc release?
[03:05] <xenol> !paste
[03:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:06] <MidMark> os2mac: no a very alpha release
[03:06] <MidMark> feisty will be out in april
[03:06] <os2mac> ahhhh
[03:06] <os2mac> dammit.
[03:06] <os2mac> that is the only thing keeping me from using my nic.
[03:08] <MidMark> os2mac: why you should use .19?
[03:08] <os2mac> cause I really do not want to use ndiswrapper...
[03:08] <os2mac> I would like it to work out of the box.
[03:09] <os2mac> and once they get .19 integrated DELL Nic's will be supported out of the box....
[03:09] <os2mac> the version of BCM43xx that is installed with .17 doesn't work with Dell nic's
[03:11] <MidMark> linux is the OS that change kernel more faster than other OSes
[03:11] <MidMark> Windows stayed for 5 years with the same kernel
[03:11] <os2mac> that may be true but Kubuntu doesn't
[03:11] <xwolf-> where can i get man pages for C functions?
[03:12] <Jucato> !manpages-dev | xwolf-
[03:12] <ubotu> manpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.34-1 (edgy), package size 1183 kB, installed size 2908 kB
[03:12] <MidMark> kubuntu change kernel every 6 months
[03:13] <paul1975> hi
[03:13] <paul1975> i am from south africa
[03:13] <aleksanteri> !xorg
[03:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:14] <xwolf-> thank you Jucato :)
[03:14] <Jucato> :)
[03:15] <MidMark> os2mac: make a bugreport in launchpad to backport bcm drivers from .19
[03:15] <MidMark> search first, I've seen something already
[03:15] <junky> some one can help me plx? why i cant play action cube or sauerbraten...?
[03:15] <junky> say same error
[03:16] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183338
[03:16] <zungui> join #ubuntu.es
[03:16] <junky> i do tha... but doesnt run... im newbie
[03:19] <junky> plz
[03:26] <aleksanteri> hey what's the "code sequence" for extracting a tgz archive with "tar"? with gz it's "-zxvf", what's it with tgz?
[03:27] <aleksanteri> oh it WAS "-pxvf" :O
[03:27] <aleksanteri> i just guessed :P
[03:28] <aleksanteri> or... perhaps it wasn't
[03:28] <aleksanteri> i got an error after the first folder :|
[03:37] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:37] <Zappix> Howdy
[03:39] <nagyv> I would like try out boson, but it always freezes when I start a single player game. Is there something I can check?
[03:44] <NetShark> Hi
[03:44] <NetShark> I am having problems installing latest nvidia drivers
[03:44] <klerfayt> NetShark: what problems?
[03:45] <NetShark> it installs and i get the nvidia logo on x startup
[03:45] <NetShark> but glxgears doesn't work
[03:45] <NetShark> i get failure to open device (null)
[03:46] <NetShark> and after reboot i can't even start x
[03:46] <klerfayt> NetShark: how did you install them?
[03:46] <nagyv> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <klerfayt> NetShark: did you insert   DISABLED_MODULES="nv"   into /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?
[03:47] <NetShark> i exited kde and ran sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[03:47] <NetShark> is it a bad driver?
[03:47] <klerfayt> NetShark: here is a good howto http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=7272303cc2d3882a9191965abfe8c10b&t=72490 - scroll down to Debian GNU/Linux or Ubuntu with Xorg 7.x
[03:49] <NetShark> ok, trying to follow that guide
[03:49] <eilker> how can i make a folder  hidden ?
[03:49] <NetShark> how do i uninstall NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1?
[03:50] <klerfayt> NetShark: sudo nvidia-installer --uninstall
[03:51] <NetShark> ninstallation of existing driver: NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for
[03:51] <NetShark>   Linux-x86 (1.0-9631) is complete.
[03:51] <aleksanteri> !automake
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <aleksanteri> bah
[03:52] <NetShark> how do i choose the right linux-headers version?
[03:52] <spawn57> NetShark: get teh one that matches your kernel version
[03:52] <spawn57> uname -r to find out your kernel version
[03:52] <klerfayt> spawn57: wait there is a package
[03:52] <NetShark> 2.6.17-10-generic
[03:53] <klerfayt> no wait
[03:53] <spawn57> yeap
[03:53] <spawn57> do apt-cache search 2.6.17 or whatever your kernel version is
[03:53] <spawn57> also you can get the nvidia binary version using apt-get
[03:54] <klerfayt> it is "linux-headers-generic"
[03:54] <klerfayt> This package will always depend on the latest generic kernel headers available.
[03:54] <NetShark> linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[03:54] <NetShark> this one?
[03:55] <spawn57> yeah, you might wanna get teh 386 one as well
[03:55] <francesco_> qualcuno mi dice come funziona qui???
[03:55] <MidMark> !it
[03:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:55] <lrentz> Any benefits of trying to roll my own kernel.  Kindof a newbie.
[03:56] <spawn57> naw
[03:56] <francesco_> OK, I'll speak english too
[03:56] <spawn57> don't bother
[03:56] <NetShark> ok, got the 386 ones too
[03:56] <lrentz> I dont think my cpu scaling is working correctly.
[03:56] <lrentz> on a core 2 duo.
[03:56] <klerfayt> NetShark: you just do "apt-get install linux-headers-generic"
[03:57] <rhodri> hi, is there a difference in the version of alsa that ships with the edgy releases of ubuntu and kubuntu?
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[03:58] <NetShark> inux-headers-generic is already the newest version.
[03:58] <NetShark> =L
[03:58] <lrentz> hey
[03:59] <spawn57> NetShark: seems like you have it
[04:00] <klerfayt> NetShark: it is ok then
[04:00] <NetShark> ok, i did all teh things in that guide
[04:00] <spawn57> what're you trying to do?
[04:00] <NetShark> should i exit kde and install the nvidia package?
[04:00] <klerfayt> NetShark: did you blacklist "nv"?
[04:00] <NetShark> hmm
[04:00] <NetShark> not sure
[04:01] <klerfayt> NetShark: yes, now exit, and then in tty sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:01] <rhodri> hi, is there a difference in the version of alsa that ships with the edgy releases of ubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:01] <klerfayt> NetShark: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common       DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[04:02] <spawn57> you can install it without restarting
[04:02] <spawn57> rhodri: nope
[04:02] <rhodri> spawn57: ok, thanks for the info!
[04:02] <spawn57> rhodri: =D
[04:02] <NetShark> done
[04:02] <NetShark> disabled nv
[04:03] <klerfayt> NetShark: good now log out of kde and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:04] <NetShark> ok
[04:05] <NetShark> after kdm stop i can install that package?
[04:06] <klerfayt> NetShark: yeah
[04:06] <NetShark> ok
[04:06] <NetShark> thnaks so far
[04:06] <NetShark> *thanks even
[04:06] <spawn57> i hate the whole sudo thing
[04:07] <eilker> can we have more than 1 graphical session in kde ? like in xp ? i mean user switching....
[04:08] <klerfayt> eilker: yes
[04:10] <xenol> plz can someone help me how to remake ubuntu GRUB screen to SuSE like?
[04:10] <xenol> should i follow this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855&highlight=GfxBoot+%28+Grub+like+suse
[04:10] <nagyv> !build
[04:10] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:11] <xenol> dr_willis u here?
[04:13] <xenol> if i remake ubuntu GRUB screen to SuSE like? should i follow this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855&highlight=GfxBoot+%28+Grub+like+suse
[04:15] <NetShark> ok
[04:15] <NetShark> glxgears work now
[04:15] <NetShark> but i get an error on logout
[04:15] <klerfayt> NetShark: what error?
[04:15] <NetShark> i saved the error log from that window
[04:16] <NetShark> let me paste it on some website
[04:17] <klerfayt> !pastebin
[04:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:18] <NetShark> ok: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36255/
[04:19] <NetShark> this happens every time i click on Logout in kde
[04:19] <klerfayt> NetShark: what crashed? panel?
[04:19] <NetShark> yeah, i get a error dialog
[04:20] <klerfayt> NetShark: and this is connected to nvidia driver?
[04:20] <NetShark> yes
[04:20] <NetShark> let me copy the error msg
[04:20] <NetShark> brb
[04:23] <Zamber> !aiglx
[04:23] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[04:23] <eilker> !sh
[04:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:23] <eilker> !bash > eilker
[04:23] <NetShark> The application Konversation crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[04:24] <Zamber> lol :p
[04:24] <NetShark> The application KDE Session Manager (ksmserver) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[04:24] <NetShark> these 2 errors
[04:24] <klerfayt> NetShark: wow. and this all happens only if you use nvidia proprietary driver?
[04:24] <NetShark> yes
[04:25] <NetShark> after reboot x-server won't even start
[04:25] <klerfayt> NetShark: didn't you just tell that you installed nvidia drivers?
[04:26] <NetShark> i just installed them (the 3rd time i guess)
[04:26] <NetShark> but this time i got glxgears running
[04:26] <NetShark> :)
[04:26] <klerfayt> and x won't start?
[04:26] <NetShark> it's starting now, but after reboot, no
[04:28] <heinkel_111> ok then, since it is sunday morning and you have nothing else to do, how about giving it a go troubleshooting my kde crashes: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11829.0
[04:28] <heinkel_111> :-)
[04:28] <NetShark> it's sunday evening here :)
[04:28] <heinkel_111> maybe i should change that to afternoon now
[04:28] <heinkel_111> :P
[04:28] <klerfayt> sudo nvidia-bug-report.sh and send email to linux-bugs@nvidia.com with attachment and description?
[04:28] <heinkel_111> i posted the link this morning, and it doesnt look like anyone on at the time had useful suggestions
[04:29] <NetShark> ok, i'll send it
[04:29] <rhodri> hi, i'm following a tutorial that assumes i have libasound version 1.0.12 for edgy, but my edgy only has version 1.0.11, and i checked the ubuntu packages search and that says edgy has 1.0.11 aswell... and fiesty has version 1.0.13... so where does 1.0.12 fit into this, can anyone help?!!?!?!  thanks.
[04:29] <klerfayt> heinkel_111: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGSEGV
[04:31] <heinkel_111> klerfayt: thanks for the information, but YES my RAM is ok
[04:31] <heinkel_111> klerfayt: i run it 5 time through memcheck with 0 errors
[04:31] <NetShark> are there stable nvidia drivers ?
[04:31] <heinkel_111> but these SIGSEGV errors i get all the time
[04:31] <NetShark> Sysinfo for 'nsa': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2993 MHz (5985 bogomips), , RAM: 700/1009MB, 133 proc's, 56.14min up
[04:33] <klerfayt> NetShark: 1.0-9631 works fine here without sigsegv
[04:33] <NetShark> hmm
[04:33] <NetShark> i want it to work fine here too
[04:33] <NetShark> let me reboot it
[04:33] <NetShark> maybe it's working better this time
[04:37] <ubuntu> hi
[04:38] <ubuntu> is there any way how to change the grub so that it look as suse?
[04:39] <NetShark> wow
[04:39] <NetShark> it started
[04:39] <NetShark> and i don't get those sigsegv errors anymore
[04:39] <NetShark> one more thing
[04:39] <NetShark> it doesn't retain settings
[04:40] <Vladdy> ati drivers suck O_O
[04:40] <NetShark> i set it to 1024x768@85 Hz
[04:40] <NetShark> and after restart it goes back to 43 Hz
[04:40] <ubuntu> ATI sux but it is possible to run XGL with em?
[04:40] <klerfayt> NetShark: you set it in nvidia-settings?
[04:41] <NetShark> yes
[04:41] <NetShark> the proprietary nvidia control panel
[04:41] <klerfayt> NetShark: this is the default behaviour of nvidia-settings
[04:41] <NetShark> how do I save the settings then?
[04:42] <klerfayt> NetShark: no idea, they do not keep settings here either
[04:42] <NetShark> it's a little bit frustrating
[04:42] <NetShark> nvidia did that to windows drivers too
[04:43] <NetShark> it used to forget overlay settings
[04:43] <NetShark> fortunately there was a registry hack available
[04:43] <NetShark> i think there is a file i can edit?
[04:43] <klerfayt> NetShark: you can do it in gnome
[04:44] <NetShark> I installed kubuntu to get kde
[04:44] <NetShark> i don't really like gnome
[04:44] <klerfayt> NetShark: you have to put nvidia-settings --load-config-only
[04:45] <NetShark> where?
[04:45] <klerfayt> NetShark: somewhere I don't remember :D
[04:45] <NetShark> ok :)))
[04:45] <NetShark> ok, another question
[04:45] <NetShark> how do I register .exe file to open automatically with wine
[04:45] <NetShark> ?
[04:46] <klerfayt> NetShark: right-click on it
[04:47] <klerfayt> NetShark: open with application> other> remember...
[04:47] <NetShark> yes
[04:47] <NetShark> did that already
[04:48] <NetShark> it doesn't remember taht either
[04:48] <NetShark> *that
[04:49] <NetShark> it doesn't even work now :(
[04:49] <NetShark> under ubuntu i could start that app
[04:49] <NetShark> wine is just showing the hourglass, then nothing
[04:50] <klerfayt> NetShark: can you start exe in konsole?
[04:50] <klerfayt> NetShark: cd in folder there exe is located and run    wine thatfile.exe
[04:51] <klerfayt> NetShark: sometimes they don't work with wine unless you cd into folder - again I do not know why
[04:51] <NetShark> fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0001: stub!
[04:51] <NetShark> this is the first error
[04:51] <NetShark> hmm
[04:52] <klerfayt> NetShark: what keyboard are you using?
[04:52] <NetShark> standard US but with romanian default
[04:52] <NetShark> i could remove that line of code
[04:52] <NetShark> it's an app I wrote
[04:52] <klerfayt> change to us before trying exe with wine
[04:53] <NetShark> ok
[04:53] <klerfayt> I haved used application in the past that only worked with wine then I changed keyboard layout to us
[04:53] <NetShark> in the application?
[04:54] <klerfayt> NetShark: you can do it in kde
[04:55] <klerfayt> NetShark: system settings> regional and language> keyboard layout
[04:55] <NetShark> added romanian
[04:56] <NetShark> to keyboard layouts
[04:59] <NetShark> ok, other applications that doesn't try to load keyboard layouts are working
[04:59] <NetShark> I will just remove that line and recompile
[05:01] <NetShark> another thing :)
[05:01] <NetShark> I can't install nerolinux
[05:01] <NetShark> it installed fine in ubuntu
[05:02] <NetShark> ah
[05:02] <klerfayt> NetShark: what is nerolinux?
[05:02] <NetShark> it asks for libgtk1.2
[05:03] <NetShark> Nero for linux
[05:03] <NetShark> you know... the cd burning app
[05:03] <klerfayt> NetShark: have you tried k3b?
[05:03] <NetShark> not yet
[05:03] <NetShark> is it better?
[05:04] <NetShark> hmm
[05:04] <NetShark> looks nice
[05:04] <NetShark> can I mount ISO files ?
[05:04] <NetShark> as virtual cds
[05:07] <klerfayt> NetShark: and nero lets you mount iso? I should check it out then
[05:08] <NetShark> yeah, it has a component called nero imagedrive
[05:08] <pasku>  /server libres.irc-hispano.org
[05:08] <NetShark> i'm not sure it has it in linux version too
[05:09] <klerfayt> NetShark: you could use command  mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[05:10] <klerfayt> NetShark: ofcourse you should mount somewhere in you home directory instead
[05:10] <NetShark> nice
[05:10] <NetShark> it's doing it natively
[05:10] <NetShark> cool
[05:11] <NetShark> i'm new in linux
[05:12] <Vladdy> hehe
[05:12] <Vladdy> you can even mount the filesystem image that is on the cd :P
[05:12] <Vladdy> of kubuntu installer :O
[05:13] <baphomet> Hello, I wanted to change the background you see when you log into kde, and I changed it in -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 363 2006-12-06 19:20 /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc
[05:13] <baphomet> ... it appears, then  there's that ugly kubuntu login screen
[05:13] <Vladdy> ehm
[05:13] <baphomet> how can I get rid of that ugly loogin screen plaese?
[05:13] <Vladdy> easier to do it elsewhere
[05:13] <baphomet> ah ?
[05:13] <Vladdy> K menu -> system settings -> advanced -> login screen
[05:15] <Vladdy> lot easier :-)
[05:16] <baphomet> ok
[05:16] <baphomet> Vladdy: thank you :)
[05:17] <klerfayt> baphomet: if you want to change the login screen theme (kdm theme) then you should install "kdmtheme"
[05:17] <baphomet> Vladdy: but my wallpaper is there, but there's still that ugly blue kubuntu login wazllpaper that appears
[05:17] <baphomet> Vladdy: apt-get install kdetheme ?
[05:18] <klerfayt> baphomet: kdmtheme
[05:18] <junky> someone can help me
[05:19] <klerfayt> junky: hopefully
[05:19] <junky> i cant run games like open arena, action cube, sauerbraten
[05:20] <junky> im new in kubuntu...
[05:20] <klerfayt> junky: I guess you have to install nvidia proprietary drivers
[05:20] <klerfayt> junky: or ati
[05:21] <klerfayt> junky: what graphics card do you use?
[05:21] <baphomet> Vladdy: sorry but what exactly do I have to do with "kdetheme" ? I see no file called kdetheme...
[05:21] <klerfayt> baphomet: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme not kdetheme
[05:21] <junky> http://phpfi.com/183393
[05:21] <junky> i use nvidia
[05:22] <klerfayt> junky: and have proprietary drivers installed?
[05:22] <baphomet> Vladdy: ok, and then ?
[05:22] <junky> i folow a tutorial...
[05:22] <junky> teory i install... but...
[05:22] <klerfayt> baphomet: I'm not vladdy, press alt-f2 and type in there   kcontrol
[05:23] <klerfayt> junky: can you run glxgears
[05:23] <junky> i dont know... i put this in konsole?
[05:23] <klerfayt> junky: yeah
[05:24] <junky> yeah
[05:24] <junky> i can run it
[05:24] <klerfayt> junky: where did you get sauerbraten?
[05:24] <junky> from the web, but action cube and open arena also dont run
[05:25] <crazyreddwolf> with me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server
[05:25] <klerfayt> junky: you downloaded  	sauerbraten_2006_12_04_gui_edition_linux.tar.gz  ?
[05:25] <junky> yes
[05:25] <klerfayt> junky: you had to compile it?
[05:26] <junky> i do this make install in .../src
[05:26] <junky> and it do someting...
[05:26] <junky> but the game don run
[05:27] <klerfayt> junky: SDL, SDL-image, SDL-mixer, and OpenGL libraries are installed?
[05:27] <crazyreddwolf> with me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server
[05:28] <junky> i dont know, i install somethink with adept administrator... but i dont know if i do well because when i search sdl.. there are many results
[05:28] <digilux> ,
[05:29] <klerfayt> junky: libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-image1.2
[05:29] <gsuveg> re
[05:30] <junky> yeah status : installed all this two libsdl-mixer1.2 and libsdl-image1.2
[05:30] <gsuveg> anyonde know a kickoff source or deb?
[05:31] <Jucato> gsuveg: I believe one is available in kde-apps or kde-look
[05:31] <junky> if i put details in libsdl-image1.2 there are 3 conflict
[05:31] <crazyreddwolf> with me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server
[05:31] <klerfayt> junky: what about libsdl-image1.2-dev? and lidsl-mixer1.2-dev
[05:31] <gsuveg> Jucato: thanks
[05:31] <junky> libsdl-image-dev, libsdl-image1.0-dev and libsdl-image1.1-dev
[05:31] <crazyreddwolf> i have looked at the server guid but still have trouble getting the server up and running
[05:32] <junky> conflit with this
[05:32] <junky> libsdl-image-dev, libsdl-image1.0-dev and libsdl-image1.1-dev
[05:32] <klerfayt> junky: hmm, what repositories are you using? universe, multiverse? something else?
[05:32] <st_iron> hi
[05:32] <junky> i dont know
[05:32] <klerfayt> junky: I don't get conflicts here
[05:32] <junky> i am a newbie..
[05:33] <junky> what is universe and multiverse?
[05:35] <Jucato> junky: <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:35] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards, how do i make one default?
[05:35] <junky> oks
[05:36] <klerfayt> junky: you shouldn't get conflicts with libsdl
[05:36] <crazyreddwolf> with me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server
[05:36] <crazyreddwolf> with me being a first time user how would i go about setting up a ftp server
[05:36] <junky> no, i have not programs... i install kubuntu yestarday
[05:36] <klerfayt> !ftp
[05:36] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[05:37] <crazyreddwolf> i tryed the apt-get of vsftpd but could not get it to config
[05:37] <digilux> !help
[05:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:37] <digilux> xD
[05:38] <klerfayt> junky: cd into directory src/ and type make install
[05:38] <junky> when i put libsdl in adept manager, i have some libsdl(...) installed
[05:39] <klerfayt> junky: use konsole
[05:39] <junky> but with the kubuntu 6.10 cd?
[05:39] <klerfayt> junky: no
[05:39] <klerfayt> cd is a command
[05:39] <junky> a oks
[05:40] <junky> but in the folder game no?
[05:40] <junky> this
[05:40] <junky> ?
[05:40] <klerfayt> junky: in that game folder
[05:40] <klerfayt> junky: find src folder
[05:40] <junky> oks
[05:40] <junky> oks
[05:40] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards, how do i make one default?
[05:40] <junky> it do something
[05:41] <klerfayt> junky: open konsole, cd /home/yourname/sauerbraten/.../src and then   make install
[05:41] <junky> yyes
[05:41] <junky> i do that and konsole do somethink.... with may lines
[05:41] <junky> and now i try to run game?
[05:42] <klerfayt> junky: I do not know that
[05:42] <junky> ?
[05:42] <klerfayt> klerfayt: doesn't the game have readme or instruction what you have to click to run it?
[05:42] <junky> oks
[05:42] <junky> the game now run!
[05:42] <junky> thx
[05:43] <junky> thanks man
[05:44] <galathalion> how do you check ur hd-status?
[05:46] <klerfayt> galathalion: activity?
[05:47] <galathalion> klerfayt: never mind.. i found out. thnx anyways
[05:48] <] [Enrique] [> hea wenos dias
[05:49] <syntaxx> im having a problem in installing nvidia driver.. i install linux-restricted modules and nvidia glx but whenever i run nvidia-glx-config enable it says Error: unable to load nvidia kernel module anyone knows why?
[05:50] <adz21c> syntaxx: u got nvidia-kernel-common installed?
[05:51] <syntaxx> adz21c: yes
[05:53] <adz21c> are you just using glx-config to set up using the driver? (i never used glx-config before)
[05:53] <the_hammer> hi gang
[05:53] <syntaxx> adz21c: i followed the guide on the wiki nvidiabinary
[05:53] <the_hammer> ive tried kubuntu before it has kde right i get it mixed up with ubntu alot
[05:54] <adz21c> syntaxx: u got the link i never read it
[05:54] <syntaxx> adz21c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:54] <the_hammer> any of u guys able to update your firefox to firefox2?
[05:55] <adz21c> the_hammer: i am running 2, but i didn't update
[05:55] <the_hammer> im on mepis and i cant seem to update to firefox 2 ive tried 3 times already
[05:55] <adz21c> syntaxx: u using legacy or not?
[05:55] <syntaxx> adz21c: nope
[05:56] <the_hammer> syn ya mean kubnuntu comes with firefox2 as in 2.0?
[05:56] <adz21c> the_hammer: edgy does i think, hold on i check
[05:56] <the_hammer> ok
[05:56] <eilker> !knmap
[05:56] <adz21c> yup i am running 2.0
[05:56] <ubotu> knmap: nmap graphical interface for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1223 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[05:57] <the_hammer> im not sure what all distros are out but i love kde and i love the ones with the apt-get commands,etc
[05:57] <the_hammer> wish i had a list of the distros that use those and then id try them all out
[05:57] <adz21c> syntaxx: u tried setting to the proprietory driver in system settings? pretty much does the same thing
[05:57] <the_hammer> every time i try to look it shows me everything but what i asked for lol
[05:57] <adz21c> :P
[05:58] <adz21c> the_hammer: u on edgy or dapper?
[05:58] <napox> what is the console command for checking the nvidia driver version ?
[05:58] <syntaxx> adz21c: no not yet
[05:58] <the_hammer> not sure
[05:58] <syntaxx> adz21c: but if i followed the guide it supposed to show it right?
[05:58] <the_hammer> dapper looks familure
[05:58] <adz21c> syntaxx: i would give that a go, i am sure it does the same thing
[05:58] <adz21c> syntaxx: what you mean?
[05:59] <adz21c> the_hammer: well i think dapper by default has 1.5 max
[05:59] <syntaxx> adz21c: reading through the guide and followed it right it must work?
[05:59] <the_hammer> what would u recamend for me?
[05:59] <adz21c> syntaxx: should but life isn't always that simple i guess
[06:00] <galathalion> i need a good ftpklient
[06:00] <adz21c> the_hammer: dappers mean't the be the more stable and longer supported one so i would go with that if ur unsure about linux etc, but if u enable the backports repo firefox may be in there
[06:00] <Jucato> galathalion: Konqueror?
[06:00] <galathalion> Jucato: how do you use it?
[06:01] <the_hammer> well my distro here is really messed up badly
[06:01] <Jucato> galathalion: ftp://ftp.blahblah.com (or whatever URL)
[06:01] <adz21c> the_hammer: how so?
[06:01] <the_hammer> i screwed up firefox
[06:01] <eilker>  people  lets say i am gonna start to scan  computers's telnet ports with nmap, which are beetwen 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.255 , i just wanna scan 23. port, what will the command be ?
[06:01] <the_hammer> just wanna try fresh
[06:02] <the_hammer> i dont know a whole lot about linux and when i mess up i dunno how to undo and fix up what i did
[06:03] <adz21c> the_hammer: well if your unfamiliar with linux i would stick to dapper, its mean't to be the stable one i think so less likely to run into issues (or atleast thats the theory)
[06:03] <syntaxx> adz21c: well it works now.. i just reconfigure xorg
[06:03] <adz21c> syntaxx: ah ok, that didn't occur to me :P it using nvidia?
[06:03] <the_hammer> when it comes to software i like being updated with all the new stuff examples fire fox 1.5.0.8 or something is the version my distro has BUT ya can get firefox2.0 from the net
[06:03] <syntaxx> adz21c: it using nv before but now it works :)
[06:04] <adz21c> the_hammer: well then you can try edgy, that has the latest stuff
[06:04] <adz21c> syntaxx: so its now using "nvidia" ?
[06:04] <Ramseti> hi all
[06:05] <the_hammer> ok can ya tell me stuff about edgy?
[06:05] <the_hammer> like is there a distro with kde 3.5 and the apt-get command or does that all change?
[06:05] <syntaxx> adz21c: yep
[06:06] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards, how do i make one default?
[06:06] <adz21c> the_hammer: you can get dapper to use kde 3.5, my parents machine is
[06:06] <syntaxx> adz21c: ok now my another problem.. i always modprobe -r bt878 then modprobe bt878 how can i make do it automatically so it will do it everytime i restart? its kinda annoying
[06:06] <the_hammer> ok
[06:06] <the_hammer> are u using kubuntu?
[06:06] <adz21c> the_hammer: as for edgy i barely noticed a difference, firefox 2 is one of the few news things i even noticed
[06:06] <adz21c> the_hammer: yes
[06:07] <the_hammer> ok well ill give that a try then
[06:07] <the_hammer> i have kubuntu here
[06:07] <adz21c> syntaxx: hold on there is a file 1 moment i look
[06:07] <the_hammer> i think its 6.0
[06:07] <the_hammer> is there a newer one
[06:07] <junky> hi, someone can say how i can change brighness in games??? lice action cube, sauerbraten...
[06:07] <adz21c> 6.10
[06:07] <junky> i see all very dark
[06:07] <junky> in game
[06:08] <the_hammer> ok i guess ill have to d/l that alright ill find it and install it
[06:08] <Ramseti> somebody can help me about ati driver installing, when i write in console sudo module-assistant prepare the console answer that module-assistant does not exist why???
[06:08] <galathalion> Jucato: konqueror doesnt work so good
[06:08] <Jucato> galathalion: what do you mean?
[06:08] <galathalion> Jucato: it doesnt load
[06:08] <adz21c> syntaxx: try putting the module name into /etc/modprobe (edit as sudo/root)
[06:09] <syntaxx> ok thanks
[06:09] <Jucato> are you sure you typed in the correct URL? and if the ftp requires authentication, the correct username/password?
[06:09] <galathalion> Jucato: says no item-no files-no folders
[06:09] <the_hammer> ok grabbing the 6.10
[06:09] <the_hammer> dvd 64 iso
[06:10] <adz21c> the_hammer: thats what i am running
[06:10] <junky> ?
[06:10] <the_hammer> cool
[06:10] <Jucato> galathalion: maybe the ftp directory is really empty? I dunno. it works perfectly here. what's the URL, I'll try to test
[06:10] <adz21c> the_hammer: only problem i have (which a handful of people have had so i read) is when i boot up the colors suck, but soon as i run a GL program it fixes that ... tis weird
[06:11] <kris> Hi. I'm going to be installing Ubuntu in the next couple of days. I'm coming over from Gentoo. I also have a Windows partition on my drive. I'm wondering if there is any way that I can repartition some of my drive, but leave the Windows partition alone and undamaged?
[06:11] <adz21c> kris: yes
[06:11] <kris> It's the first two partitions on my drive.
[06:11] <Ramseti> adz21c:  can you help me man....?
[06:11] <adz21c> Ramseti: dunno whats problem sorry :-)
[06:12] <kris> adz21c: What are the risks?
[06:12] <Ramseti> i'm lookin for google but i don't find the solution
[06:12] <Ramseti> during ati driver installing, when i write in console sudo module-assistant prepare the console answer that module-assistant does not exist why???
[06:12] <Ramseti> i've just installed ubuntu 6.10
[06:12] <adz21c> kris: I never tried shrinking paritions with kubuntu if thats what your asking, I did on mandriva and all went smooth, but if u have free space and dont even want to resize ur windows partition then ur ok
[06:12] <adz21c> kris: during install there is a partition manager
[06:13] <kris> adz21c: Got it. Thank you.
[06:13] <adz21c> Ramseti: ooooo hard one, i never done an ati install
[06:13] <Ramseti> okbut
[06:13] <Ramseti> the prob is about
[06:13] <Ramseti> the assistant-module
[06:13] <adz21c> nver had to do that either
[06:13] <kris> Question 2: Does the Kubuntu Live CD have a samba server on it?
[06:14] <adz21c> kris: u mean during the live install?
[06:14] <Ramseti> the assistant-module is not included with the ubuntu installation or i need to install something?
[06:14] <kris> adz21c: I mean while I'm running the live cd. Say that I wanted to run the live cd for a couple of days, could I share my printer?
[06:14] <adz21c> Ramseti: entirely possible ur missing a package, hold on i have a peak see what i can find
[06:15] <Ramseti> oh man thanks you are rare
[06:15] <adz21c> kris: not by default, u just have to install samba while live runs (doesn't do anything on your hdd just to live in memory) then go on as if its not live
[06:15] <kris> adz21c: apt-get install samba?
[06:15] <adz21c> kris: spot on
[06:16] <kris> adz21c: See. Us gentooers aren't all bad ... :-)
[06:18] <galathalion> Jucato: how do you set passive mode in konqueror then?
[06:18] <adz21c> Ramseti: `sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential`?
[06:20] <adz21c> galathalion: from my experience konqueror is a good ftp manager for most FTP stuff, but the gui is geared up for general file management, if u want something taylored specifically to FTP try kftpgrabber maybe? not used it much myself but seems like it knows what its doing atleast
[06:22] <Jucato> adz21c: you've tried splitting views?
[06:22] <adz21c> Jucato: oh yea, like i say for most like say 90% of stuff konqueror is more than adequate
[06:22] <galathalion> well.. it doesnt work for me..
[06:22] <Jucato> what's the other 10%?
[06:23] <adz21c> i can't queue ... which i don't really use, hence reason i tend to use konqueror
[06:23] <BluesKaj> my flash isn't working on youtube...just updated flash 9 plugin yesterday ....worked ok then, but not anymore
[06:23] <adz21c> and i am sure theres other small lil features i don't know about
[06:24] <the_hammer> gonna take 4hrs to grab this dvd and i gotta go out for a while so i hope upon return it will be all done :)
[06:24] <the_hammer> gonna take kids to see santa :)
[06:24] <adz21c> the_hammer: laters :-)
[06:24] <the_hammer> ill be here for a short still
[06:24] <the_hammer> adz21c u always here?
[06:25] <adz21c> the_hammer: i have been lately, but i am not when i am at work ... and sometimes i forget to set myself to away :-)
[06:25] <the_hammer> ahh your ahead of me cuz i dunno how to set away lol
[06:26] <the_hammer> u use xchat?
[06:26] <adz21c> lol /away
[06:26] <adz21c> konversation
[06:26] <the_hammer> ahh ok
[06:26] <the_hammer> i seen another neat looking irc client called KVirc or something
[06:26] <the_hammer> seen it when i tried out arklinux
[06:26] <adz21c> yes, i saw that was quite popular
[06:26] <adz21c> not looked into it though
[06:27] <cloakable> the_hammer: It's on Kubuntu too :)
[06:27] <the_hammer> ya its nice looking cool i look forward to trying it again
[06:27] <the_hammer> do any of u guys use eyecandy apps?
[06:28] <the_hammer> superkaramba?
[06:28] <cloakable> Yeah. I use SuperKaramba
[06:28] <adz21c> i use superkaramba
[06:28] <the_hammer> cool
[06:28] <cloakable> KBFX too
[06:28] <galathalion> adz21c: thank you.. finally a _real_ client ^^
[06:28] <the_hammer> one thing i cant get working is liquid weather
[06:28] <the_hammer> but i assume its got something to do with my distro
[06:29] <adz21c> galathalion: np, like i said before konqueror is great for quick file transfers, but kftpgrabber is geared up specifically for ftp and tends to following the same gui style layout
[06:29] <adz21c> as others
[06:29] <galathalion> adz21c: yes thats what i wanted
[06:30] <the_hammer> bbl all
[06:30] <the_hammer> have a wonderfull day
[06:30] <adz21c> later
[06:31] <ultm8> hello every1
[06:32] <ultm8> can any1 help me, am trying to upload files from my computer to my lan server using openssh
[06:32] <adz21c> ultm8: i do my best but no guarantuees :P
[06:32] <ultm8> oh cool adz21c
[06:33] <ultm8> yeah for instance i'm on this computer.... i want to move a file on my desktop myfile.zip over to my home/public_html
[06:34] <itch^> Hello guys. Can somebody give me hand with a problem regading a kernel compilation. Each time i try to complile the kernel, I get this error:" make[1] : *** [.tmp_vmlinux1]  Error 1 / make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.17.14' / make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel]  Error 2 "
[06:34] <ultm8> what commands do i need
[06:34] <ibert> hi! I'm having big troubles with the gam_server. anybody knows a clean way to deactivate him?
[06:34] <ultm8> i know this sounds newbish
[06:34] <adz21c> via ssh?
[06:34] <ultm8> yes
[06:35] <adz21c> you need to create an sftp connection as far as i know
[06:35] <ultm8> oki doki
[06:35] <ultm8> can i ask how to do this?
[06:35] <verbose> adz21c: you can also use scp
[06:35] <adz21c> can u?
[06:35] <adz21c> ace
[06:36] <adz21c> how you do that cos i am still quite noobish :P
[06:36] <verbose> for example: scp myfile.zip user@host:myfile.zip
[06:36] <ibert> ultm8: in konqueror type fish://hostname
[06:36] <ultm8> using gnome
[06:36] <ibert> ultm8: then you'll get the / of the hostname
[06:36] <ibert> ultm8: sorry
[06:37] <adz21c> verbose: well you learn something new everyday :D
[06:37] <verbose> adz21c: sorry, thought you were asking...that was directed at ultm8
[06:37] <adz21c> lol yea, well i was also, i only knew of sftp
[06:39] <itch^> Hello guys. Can somebody give me hand with a problem regading a kernel compilation. Each time i try to complile the kernel, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36286/
[06:40] <ibert> the only way to deactivate gam_server is to chmod?
[06:41] <ultm8> basically adz21c i followed this joomla tutorialhttp://www.parcival.org/2006/07/14/howto-install-joomla-on-your-very-own-ubuntu-server/
[06:41] <ultm8> i install samba too
[06:41] <adz21c> ultm8: you tried verbose suggestion?
[06:41] <ultm8> erm hold on will scroll up to see what he put
[06:42] <ultm8> 1 second
[06:42] <ultm8> yeah i can see my server up
[06:42] <ultm8> when typing http://localhost
[06:43] <ultm8> but nothing with fish://hostname
[06:43] <itch^> Hello guys. Can somebody give me hand with a problem regarding a kernel compilation. Each time i try to complile the kernel, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36286/
[06:44] <ultm8> i can log into each computer using openssh
[06:44] <ultm8> but just don't know how to transfer files over
[06:44] <adz21c> ultm8: not i mean in ssh tried the command scp as described by verbose
[06:44] <ibert> ultm8: man scp
[06:44] <ultm8> erm scp nope
[06:44] <ultm8> could u give me an example in how to using it
[06:44] <ultm8> :o)
[06:44] <ultm8> plz
[06:45] <ibert> ultm8: scp file user@host:/path/to/file
[06:45] <ultm8> oh cool
[06:45] <ultm8> k give me 1 sec to try out
[06:47] <ultm8>  sudo scp /home/myprofile/Desktop/LINUX smb://mshome/myservername/myprofile/public_html/
[06:47] <ultm8> would i put something like this?
[06:47] <ibert> ultm8: no
[06:48] <ibert> ultm8: you have to read for yourself: scp file user@host:/path/to/file
[06:48] <ibert> ultm8: forget smb:
[06:48] <ultm8> oki doki
[06:48] <ibert> ultm8: just username@host:/pathtofile/
[06:49] <ultm8> which computer do i need to type this into? my server or the 1 i want to send files from to?
[06:49] <ultm8> or both?
[06:49] <ibert> ultm8: would ou please be so kind and read the man page of scp? thanks
[06:50] <ibert> ultm8: man scp
[06:50] <ultm8> yeah sure
[06:50] <ultm8> thx iber
[06:50] <ultm8> t
[06:54] <ultm8> ok i have read the scp
[06:54] <ultm8> am no closer to moving files from 1 computer to the other though :o(
[06:54] <zorglu_> !scp
[06:54] <ubotu> scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client
[06:55] <zorglu_> ultm8: this is a way to do it
[06:55] <zorglu_> !samba
[06:55] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:55] <zorglu_> this is another way, harder to setup tho
[06:55] <zorglu_> !ftp
[06:55] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:55] <zorglu_> ftp is another :)
[06:55] <ultm8> sure
[06:55] <ultm8> i have a default ubuntu lamp box installed
[06:56] <ultm8> and using ubuntu on the other copm
[06:56] <ultm8> comp
[06:56] <ultm8> basically i want to copy 1 folder over to my lamp box's public_html i created
[06:56] <ultm8> using scp or openssh
[06:56] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, you trying to move files on your own lan?
[06:56] <ultm8> over my lan
[06:57] <ultm8> box computers are on same lan
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs
[06:57] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, ^^^^
[06:57] <zorglu_> 	http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_copy_files.2Ffolders_from_remote_Ubuntu_machine_into_local_machine_.28scp.29
[06:57] <zorglu_> i can hardly do more :)
[06:57] <ultm8> wow u guys r sharp
[06:57] <ultm8> :o)
[06:58] <ultm8> will check out the posts
[06:58] <ultm8> thx u
[06:58] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, you only need to use ssh if you are moving files accross an unsecured network
[06:58] <ultm8> yeah sure i understand this
[06:58] <ultm8> but i thought while i have it set up
[06:58] <ultm8> what not try how to do it
[06:58] <ultm8> using this method
[06:58] <ultm8> why not what
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, well... :-)
[06:59] <ultm8> i thought i might just have to type in 1 long command and boom it would cross over
[06:59] <ultm8> i can log into the server from this computer
[07:00] <TheGateKeeper> try with konqueror
[07:01] <ultm8> only problem is am using the gnome environment
[07:01] <ultm8> not kde
[07:01] <ultm8> i should be on the #ubuntu irc really
[07:01] <TheGateKeeper> ok with whatever gnome uses for konqueror
[07:01] <ultm8> am not sure what that is to be honest
[07:01] <ultm8> hehehe
[07:02] <kkathman> how do I check the version of a program in the repo-cache?
[07:02] <kkathman> must be an option with apt-cache I reckon
[07:02] <TheGateKeeper> ultm8, it's all the same under the surface
[07:02] <ultm8> yeah nice core, different skin
[07:04] <ultm8> scp -r username@192.168.0.1:/home/username/remotefile.txt <--- thats the command i was looking for
[07:04] <TheGateKeeper> kkathman, apt:/ <-- on konqueror will tell you all you need to know
[07:06] <ibert> TheGateKeeper: wow. didn't know this apt:/ ... great thing
[07:07] <TheGateKeeper> ibert, firefox also has a repo search engine
[07:07] <ultm8> zorglu u da man
[07:07] <ultm8> or women
[07:07] <ultm8> whichever
[07:07] <ibert> TheGateKeeper: Do you hava a tip how to get rid of gam_server?
[07:07] <ganymed_> are the ttys disabled in edgy by default???
[07:09] <TheGateKeeper> ibert, don't think so, apart from apt-get remove --purge <package>
[07:09] <kkathman> TheGateKeeper:  well Im trying to see what version Blender is on the repos to know whether I should get it there, or download directly from the home page
[07:11] <TheGateKeeper> kkathman, this? http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/graphics/blender
[07:12] <kkathman> looks like 2.42 but the home page lists only 2.32 available hmm
[07:12] <kkathman> 2.4 on Windows, 2.4.2 on FreeBSD
[07:16] <ganymed_> are the ttys disabled in edgy by default???
[07:17] <ganymed_> i would like to switch to the console, but i get a graphics failure. i wanna know if this is due to the ati drivers or if the ttys are disabled anyway?
[07:17] <ganymed_> .
[07:19] <xenol> plz r repositories from ubuntu for synaptic same for adept and kubuntu?
[07:20] <ganymed_> yes
[07:20] <xenol> hehe
[07:21] <xenol> so i can change default with onesi found for ubuntu?
[07:21] <ganymed_> what do you wanna do?
[07:22] <xenol> i have repositories for adept in kubuntu i found repositories for synaptic for ubuntu
[07:22] <xenol> can i use those from ubuntu?
[07:22] <xenol> !restricted format
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <xwolf-> !restrictedformats
[07:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:22] <xenol> ty :)
[07:22] <Zamber> wtf is this "Load  "vbe"" in xorg.conf ?
[07:22] <xwolf-> ^^
[07:22] <Zamber> in the Module section
[07:23] <ganymed_> they are the same
[07:24] <ganymed_> there is no difference in official repos except you do not actually have official ones.
[07:25] <ganymed_> but yes, you can use them, but there won't be difference as long as it is the same ubuntu version (edgy, e.g.). otherwise you might get into trouble not using official repos
[07:25] <xenol> i found for ubuntu dapper and i have kubuntu dapper
[07:25] <xenol> so it is ok
[07:25] <xenol> ?
[07:27] <ganymed_> again, kubuntu only differs in one respect from ubuntu. it has the package "kubuntu-desktop" (a meta package) installed by default while not having all the gnome stuff
[07:27] <xenol> aha
[07:27] <ganymed_> so there is NO difference, no matter if you have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu and what might be invented in future
[07:27] <xenol> should i backup my original lst?
[07:28] <ganymed_> ok, what did you not understand? why would you wanna change your repos? synaptic and adept use the same sources.lst, which is the same for (k)ubuntu
[07:28] <the_hammer> i hate gnome its horrible
[07:28] <ganymed_> THAT is a statement
[07:28] <xenol> i undrstand i am gonna change all repos
[07:29] <the_hammer> lol
[07:29] <xenol> but dunno if i will need the original file
[07:29] <ganymed_> ok, why???
[07:29] <ganymed_> why do you wanna do this?
[07:29] <xenol> cause i cant find libxine-extracodecs in repos i have
[07:30] <the_hammer> could try a google search xenol
[07:30] <the_hammer> ive had to do that a few times with stuff i wanted
[07:30] <xenol> why if they r part of repos i find? :P
[07:30] <kris> Hi. I'm trying to install kubuntu. I'm at the "prepare mount points" screen, and have selected a device to use as my root partition, but it is telling me that I don't have a root file system.
[07:31] <xenol> do u have / ?
[07:31] <kris> Yes.
[07:31] <xenol> hmmm
[07:31] <the_hammer> ive always done things the more complicated way i guess lol
[07:31] <kris> It's 2 Gb in size.
[07:32] <the_hammer> anyone here use liquidweather?
[07:32] <ganymed_> xenol: now we are getting to the point
[07:32] <xenol> kris sry i cant help am still noob having kubutu second day now
[07:32] <xenol> ganymed: if i need to backup my original surces.lst
[07:32] <kris> Gotcha.
[07:32] <ganymed_> read the tut on restricted formats
[07:32] <dennister> hi ppl
[07:33] <the_hammer> kris do u have a primary and swap parition made?
[07:33] <kris> Yes.
[07:33] <ganymed_> otherwise this might be considered a RTFM question
[07:33] <xenol> k thx
[07:33] <kris> Question: on other linux distros, I had no problems with having a logical partition as my root partition. Could that be a problem here?
[07:33] <the_hammer> im not sure why your having a hard time then wish i could help but im somewhat a neoob myself
[07:34] <the_hammer> it might be
[07:34] <the_hammer> i set mine both as primarys
[07:34] <ganymed_> xenol: add multiverse to your repos and everything should work
[07:35] <the_hammer> i dont like the partition options in some distros i like the one in slack
[07:35] <ORiON-> kris, the answer is no.
[07:35] <the_hammer> allows u to more define
[07:35] <dennister> Q: i've now registered my nick, and in trying to configure the client, Konversation, what goes in the AutoIdentify Service field?
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> kris, you need to have a partition that is at least 5gb in size to install kubuntu
[07:35] <the_hammer> i use slack to partition then i use what ever distro i wanna install
[07:36] <kris> ORiON: No, as in a logical root partition won't cause me problems?
[07:36] <dennister> hi TheGateKeeper :)
[07:36] <TheGateKeeper> kris, probable less with a server install
[07:36] <kris> TheGateKeeper: I have multiple partitions.
[07:36] <TheGateKeeper> hiya dennister
[07:36] <ORiON-> i installed my root partition on logical
[07:36] <ORiON-> no problems
[07:36] <kris> 3G for /, 24G for usr, 24G for home, 3G for var
[07:36] <ORiON-> dont do it
[07:36] <kris> Got it.
[07:36] <ORiON-> 3G is nothing for root
[07:37] <_patrick> hi - how can i check if my graphic card is working well? just glxgears or sth 'real' :)
[07:37] <kris> What if I have a 24G usr partition?
[07:37] <the_hammer> wont get to far with 3gigs
[07:37] <xenol> damn i didnt set  GB to /usr does it matter?
[07:37] <TheGateKeeper> kris, root takes about 4gb with / & /home on seperate partitions
[07:37] <kris> OK ... but I'm mount /tmp, /var, /boot, /usr, and /home all on diff partitions.
[07:38] <bertx> hi!
[07:38] <kris> Will it still take that much?
[07:38] <the_hammer> the way i partition i make my swap same size as my ram and then what ever is left over i use that as my primary
[07:38] <ORiON-> kris, to use /var on the same hd is useless
[07:38] <kris> ORiON: I'm sorry, I don't understand.
[07:38] <ironfroggy> how can i add a user to cups? or, even better, allow anonymous printing?
[07:38] <ORiON-> how many hardrives do u have?
[07:39] <the_hammer> example:my primary is 249546.77 and my swap is 509.97
[07:39] <xenol> plz where can i find libxine-extracodecs?
[07:40] <dennister> kris: i have a root partition on my server install of 15G, home gets the same, plus a 200G xfs partition for /var/lib (mine is a mythtv box
[07:40] <kris> All I'm saying is that when I used Gentoo, I had a 2G root partition, and it was more than 50% free. That was with only /dev, /bin, /sbin, and /etc on it.
[07:40] <ORiON-> use extra repos
[07:40] <ORiON-> edit your sources.list
[07:40] <xenol> done
[07:40] <xenol> but cant find it on repos i have :/
[07:41] <the_hammer> Gentoo now theres a pain in the arse distro lol
[07:41] <ORiON-> xenxol... do u know how to edit the file?
[07:41] <xenol> k have it now :P
[07:41] <xenol> zep
[07:41] <xenol> yep
[07:41] <dennister> gentoo is also about truly minimal installs, only what you actually need; ubuntu  is different, a bit more bloat, but not that much...still tiny compared to others
[07:41] <the_hammer> ya i like maximum install distros
[07:42] <dennister> i actually blame kde for that 'bloat' but I like kde, so...
[07:42] <nic0> debian <3
[07:42] <the_hammer> smallest distro ive found so far is dsl (dam small linux)
[07:42] <the_hammer> i use that on my lappy lol
[07:42] <the_hammer> its 50mb in tottal
[07:42] <ORiON-> i dont see any reason to use such a distro unless u have a really old pc
[07:42] <the_hammer> my lappy is younger then a dinosour lol
[07:42] <nic0> i normally use backtrack live cd on my laptop which is slax
[07:43] <nic0> otherwise ill boot directly into debian on it
[07:43] <the_hammer> my lappy is so old it cant boot that
[07:43] <B-Minus_> whats the apt get command to clean the temp folder again ?
[07:43] <the_hammer> ive tried
[07:43] <ORiON-> apt-get clean
[07:43] <B-Minus_> tnx
[07:43] <nic0> my Acer Aspire is actually very compatible with a lot of the distros out of the box which is ironic
[07:43] <ORiON-> i recommend u to use aptitude
[07:44] <kris> Well, that still doesn't answer my question: why is the install screen saying that I don't have a root file system, when I've selected a partition to use as root?
[07:44] <B-Minus_> why is that
[07:44] <xenol> ok i got new problem i found codecs i need
[07:44] <dennister> anyone for my Konversation question? what goes in the AutoIdentify's Service field?
[07:44] <ORiON-> its a bit more advanced
[07:44] <xenol> i request install but i dont see them as installed :/
[07:44] <ORiON-> u can do search with aptitude for example
[07:44] <nic0> because it isnt a common laptop
[07:44] <nic0> i got the walmart special :P
[07:45] <ORiON-> dennister... unless u have more than one identify leave it alone
[07:45] <nic0> the only troubles ive had was with some acpi functions
[07:45] <xenol> orion wat need to do? use apt get?
[07:45] <ORiON-> for what?
[07:45] <nic0> i just downloaded kubuntu to try it out.. i'm not liking it
[07:45] <dennister> ORiON-: i do, and have just registered them, now it takes longer to login
[07:45] <xenol> codecs
[07:46] <the_hammer> the only time ive seen that error is when partition isnt set right
[07:46] <dennister> freenode's directions also say to configure your client to automatically enter the password
[07:46] <dennister> so that's what I'm trying to do
[07:46] <the_hammer> apt-get install win32 codecs
[07:46] <ORiON-> can u upload a screenshot of your installion screen?
[07:47] <kris> Well. I guess I'll just do this the old fashoned way: fdisk!
[07:47] <ORiON-> u said u used gentoo before right?
[07:47] <the_hammer> i use cfdisk
[07:47] <kris> ORiON: Ya.
[07:48] <the_hammer> alot easyer to do it that way
[07:48] <ORiON-> for how long?
[07:48] <kris> ORiON: Uhm, couple years.
[07:48] <kris> ORiON: 3-4
[07:48] <ORiON-> ooh... i dont know much pplz who left gentoo after such a long time
[07:49] <the_hammer> lol i couldnt get past the install of it
[07:49] <kris> ORiON: Well, I'm a college student now, and no longer really have the time to maintain it.
[07:49] <ORiON-> but i am sure u gonna get love at ubuntu too :p
[07:49] <kris> Ya. Less configuration. ;-)
[07:49] <Murchadh> !kubuntu firewall
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu firewall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <xenol> ok it is installing those codecs now :P
[07:49] <Murchadh> !default firewall
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about default firewall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <ORiON-> gl
[07:50] <kris> ORiON: Thanks.
[07:50] <the_hammer> xenol the win32 codecs?
[07:51] <Murchadh> Hi all. What is the recomended firewall for Kubuntu 6.10? (If there is one)
[07:51] <xenol> yup all i need for video
[07:51] <xenol> mentioned in restrictedformats
[07:51] <ORiON-> i am using firestarter
[07:51] <ORiON-> its working great
[07:51] <the_hammer> ok in your sysn thingy search libdvd and install everything it lists off
[07:51] <the_hammer> for libdvd
[07:52] <the_hammer> theres between 7 to 10 of them if i remember right
[07:52] <ORiON-> 9
[07:52] <xenol> do i need to restart PC or no after codec isntall?
[07:52] <kris> Wow. I never realized how much space the journal took up on a file system. For a 24G partition, the journal is taking up 1.37G. That's with nothing else on it but the journal!
[07:52] <BluesKaj> Installed the Flashplayer 9 , now flash won't work on youtube ... anyone have a fix for this or shoulf i revert to the previous version ?
[07:52] <ORiON-> no need
[07:52] <the_hammer> nope dont need a reboot
[07:52] <the_hammer> this isnt windows lol
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[07:52] <BluesKaj> !ops
[07:52] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
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[07:53] <CVirus> idiot alert
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[07:53] <Murchadh> ORiON-, Yeah. Me too on my 6.06 system. On my fresh new install it's requesting 25 qt files, so I was wondering if there was a more kde integrated option.
[07:53] <spamer> 		##c Cannot send to channel
[07:53] <kris> Can we kick spammer?
[07:53] <ORiON-> blue... i am using flash 9 and its working fine at youtube
[07:53] <ORiON-> what browser r u using?
[07:53] <BluesKaj> FF
[07:53] <ORiON-> version?
[07:53] <apokryphos> this guy struck yesterday, too, IIRC
[07:53] <BluesKaj> 9
[07:53] <BluesKaj> 2.0 FF
[07:53] <xenol> another question i have updates for mz software as pzthon, c++ palm etc if i dont  have it will it download and install it?
[07:54] <ORiON-> blue how did u install the flash?
[07:54] <ORiON-> apt?
[07:54] <BluesKaj> yup
[07:54] <the_hammer> libdvdcss2 try to see if ya can find that 1
[07:55] <heinkel_111> apokryphos: why do operators on freenode channels only assume the operator role for whatever action they do?
[07:55] <ORiON-> there is not such a package
[07:55] <ORiON-> oopz
[07:55] <ORiON-> there is
[07:55] <ORiON-> my mistake
[07:55] <heinkel_111> apokryphos: on quakenet people that are operators always are operators...
[07:55] <apokryphos> heinkel_111: not always the case, but most of the time. Secret sudden attack ;-)
[07:56] <the_hammer> i use mepis and its based off of ubuntu and i got libdvdcss2
[07:56] <heinkel_111> O_o I saw one! I saw one! they are out there to get'cha if ya don't behave!
[07:56] <apokryphos> heinkel_111: yeah, on other networks people have it because they think it's a proper status. But we're all Ubuntu users, same status. Just some of us help with channel facilitation
[07:56] <the_hammer> mind ya i had to edit the sources.list
[07:57] <ORiON-> blue... does the flash working on sites other than youtube?
[07:58] <Murchadh> Guess I'll stick with firestarter. It's doing it's job after all!
[07:58] <xenol> NICE!
[07:58] <BluesKaj> ORiON-, transfered the libflashplayer.so over to the  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ok after removing the old version ...funny thing id that the plugin worked last nite , but now it doesn't work and there are no error messages either ...something is missing
[07:58] <xenol> wrking :D
[07:59] <BluesKaj> ORiON-, like url .. ?
[07:59] <ORiON-> url for a site using flash?
[07:59] <BluesKaj> yes
[07:59] <ORiON-> lol
[08:00] <ORiON-> cant u find one for yourself? :p
[08:00] <BluesKaj> how can you tell ...there so many plugins :)
[08:02] <doppelganger_> hi guys, how do you upgrade a particular package using apt-get? (i've googled) i'm trying to upgrade beryl so i'll get some of it's newer features
[08:04] <ORiON-> y not to upgrate all the packages?
[08:04] <doppelganger_> i just didn't want to sit through an upgrade of it all
[08:04] <ORiON-> ok
[08:04] <doppelganger_> is there not a way short of doing that?
[08:05] <ORiON-> so just install the particular package
[08:05] <ORiON-> u can see all the upgradable packages
[08:05] <xenol> plz is there anz waz i can close all opened windows?
[08:05] <ORiON-> and install manually the packages u want to upgrade
[08:06] <doppelganger_> oh ok, so install will also upgrade them?  i gotcha
[08:06] <ORiON-> yup
[08:06] <z0id> what happened to compiz-kde?
[08:08] <doppelganger_> well, install says it's already installed  \/
[08:09] <doppelganger_> er =/
[08:09] <ccc> z0id: compiz-kde?
[08:09] <ORiON-> xenol... close them with the keyboard its much faster than the mouse :p
[08:09] <doppelganger_> but i know it's not the latest one, because it doesn't have that new flame thing that my one at work does
[08:09] <ORiON-> so use
[08:09] <ORiON-> reinstall istead of install
[08:09] <junky> hello
[08:09] <wonderboy> hi all
[08:09] <z0id> ccc: the kde specific compiz package? like compiz-gnome on ubuntu
[08:10] <doppelganger_> will try, thanks
[08:10] <junky> someone can say me why i see the pictures with low colors?
[08:10] <wonderboy> I have a question
[08:10] <ORiON-> junky? where do u see them?
[08:10] <wonderboy> I have no sound
[08:11] <ORiON-> when u play mp3? or no sound at all?
[08:11] <wonderboy> and i don't know why
[08:11] <wonderboy> no sound at all
[08:11] <junky> on internet or my pictures there are low colors...
[08:11] <junky> low difiniion
[08:11] <junky> no good quality
[08:11] <wonderboy> is somebody who can help me
[08:12] <junky> how i can configure to good qualitiy
[08:12] <junky> ?
[08:12] <ORiON-> and the icons for example... r they look good?
[08:12] <junky> yes
[08:12] <ORiON-> wonderboy... check if the system recognized your sound card
[08:12] <wonderboy> how
[08:12] <wonderboy> ?
[08:13] <ORiON-> run lshw at console
[08:13] <ironfroggy> how to i get kprinter to configure the print server? it says i dont have access to do that, but i dont know how to get such access.
[08:13] <junky> wonderboy put alsamixer in konsole
[08:13] <junky> an see if there are MM o OO
[08:13] <junky> if there put MM= mute  and OO=on
[08:14] <ORiON-> it called kmixer
[08:14] <wonderboy> i don't know how to do it
[08:14] <wonderboy> i'm a beginer in linux
[08:14] <ironfroggy> im a member of the lpadmin group. what else do i need to do?
[08:15] <junky> and me who i can confiure good qulity of pictures?
[08:15] <ORiON-> wonder... press alt+f2 and run "kmix" from there
[08:15] <ORiON-> u use kde right?
[08:15] <wonderboy> I write just like that?
[08:15] <wonderboy> kmix
[08:15] <ORiON-> without ""
[08:15] <wonderboy> ?
[08:15] <ORiON-> yup
[08:15] <ganymed_> i would like to switch to the console, but i get a graphics failure. i wanna know if this is due to the ati drivers or if the ttys are disabled anyway?
[08:16] <wonderboy> done
[08:16] <wonderboy> and then
[08:16] <ORiON-> ganymed_ r u tring to switch with alt+ctrl+f#?
[08:16] <judgen> anyone got a troubleshooting page for the fglrx driver?
[08:17] <ORiON-> unmute everything
[08:17] <ORiON-> raise the volume
[08:20] <paul___> whats a good mp3 player for kubuntu? one of the ones it comes with, like amarok?
[08:21] <junky> and me?
[08:21] <ORiON-> amarok pwnz :p
[08:21] <Zamber> mpd ownz ;P
[08:21] <ORiON-> very recommended
[08:21] <ORiON-> mpd?
[08:21] <paul___> ok well my sound isn't working.... how should I go about fixing this? drivers?
[08:21] <Zamber> yeah
[08:21] <Zamber> media player daemon
[08:22] <Zamber> runs even if your X server is down :D
[08:22] <ironfroggy> does cups have seperate user accounts or are the credentials it asks for the same as my normal accounts?
[08:22] <ORiON-> u mean MOC?
[08:22] <Zamber> !MOC
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MOC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Zamber> googling ;p
[08:23] <ORiON-> aptitude it
[08:23] <ORiON-> the package called moc
[08:23] <ORiON-> and u run it with mocp
[08:23] <ORiON-> it doesnt require x as well
[08:23] <ORiON-> :p
[08:23] <Zamber> got it
[08:23] <Zamber> simmilar
[08:24] <ORiON-> mpd seems to be more advanced
[08:25] <Zamber> mpd is quite diffrent
[08:25] <compilerwriter> Can anyone help me with my blasted sound?  I can't seem to make it work reliably.
[08:25] <Zamber> it's very light
[08:25] <paul___> I can't get my sound to work either.
[08:26] <Zamber> you can install aditional stuf like mpc (for console comands) gmpc (a gnome GUI, works good on KDE too)
[08:26] <ORiON-> what did u already try?
[08:26] <paul___> I haven't tried anything yet. I've had kubuntu for about 18 hours, and have no idea how to do anything. it took me about 2 hours to mount a drive :(
[08:27] <ORiON-> its ok
[08:27] <compilerwriter> It works sometimes and sometimes it won't.  Sometimes if I futz with settings in kmix I get it working again but I need someone to show me how to get the damned thing to work reliably.  Hopefully you can help me learn to do it properly.
[08:27] <Zamber> paul___ evruone had passed through this :D
[08:27] <compilerwriter> Don't feel badly paul___ you will get the hang of it.
[08:28] <RoboMoore|> !dualscreen
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <RoboMoore|> !dual screen
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <compilerwriter> I might have to look up how to mount a drive it has been so long
[08:28] <Hawkwind> !twinview | RoboMoore|
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <Hawkwind> Ermmm
[08:28] <RoboMoore|> danke Hawkwind
[08:28] <Zamber> RoboMoore| dualscreen is supported by the video card controller
[08:28] <Hawkwind> !twin view | RoboMoore|
[08:28] <ubotu> twin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-3 (edgy), package size 422 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[08:28] <Hawkwind> Guess he doesn't know anything about it
[08:28] <paul___> I'm trying to open add/remove programs, and the computer says that another process is using the packaging system database. Is there any way to show a list of running processes?
[08:29] <paul___> because nothing is running that would use a packaging system database
[08:29] <compilerwriter> There is in a terminal window paul.
[08:29] <RoboMoore|> Zamber, there's been difficulty with the screens in the begining
[08:29] <paul___> ok how do I do it in the terminal
[08:29] <Zamber> RoboMoore| it's normal ;)
[08:29] <RoboMoore|> thank you
[08:29] <Zamber> get your GC driver first ;)
[08:29] <compilerwriter> I can't think of it of the top my head though.  Give me minute to think.  Open up a terminal though.
[08:29] <Zamber> ati or nvidia?
[08:29] <tumler> paul_: ps aux?
[08:29] <paul___> k
[08:29] <RoboMoore|> nvidia
[08:30] <Zamber> !nvidia
[08:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:30] <Zamber> ;)
[08:30] <RoboMoore|> thank you Zamber
[08:30] <Zamber> youre welcome ;)
[08:30] <Zamber> brb
[08:30] <Zamber> xorg playtime ^^
[08:31] <ORiON-> hf
[08:31] <ORiON-> :p
[08:32] <paul___> hey tumler just saw that, thanks
[08:32] <heinkel_111> does anyone know of a good program to make a little bit more advanced screen slideshows?
[08:32] <heinkel_111> i would like to have panning, zooming, rotating
[08:32] <heinkel_111> and synchronise to audio
[08:32] <tumler> paul_: np:)
[08:32] <heinkel_111> ?
[08:34] <ORiON-> did u try avidemux?
[08:35] <heinkel_111> no
[08:35] <heinkel_111> do you think it is worth it?
[08:35] <heinkel_111> ORiON-: ^
[08:35] <compilerwriter> Now then could someone please help this newbie with his blased sound issues.
[08:36] <ORiON-> i never try it so i dont know for sure if it does the thing u just described...
[08:36] <ORiON-> but give it a chance :p
[08:36] <fl1>  i'm expereencing problems with the log in after a suspend to disk , my keebord doesn't seem to function animor when i restart the pc , all this after the last upgrade first it all worked perfectly , anyone has a clue on whats hapening?
[08:36] <paul___> agh. how can I figure out what running process is using the packaging database, if I can't see it running?
[08:36] <manchicken> fl1: You using fwcutter with a wifi card?
[08:37] <ORiON-> ps -aux as some1 already wrote before
[08:38] <ORiON-> or what was the last package manager u used
[08:38] <Zamber> I'm down xD deleted GLcore from modules in xorg.conf and it's still loading
[08:38] <paul___> ps -aux gives a list of running processes. which one is using the packing systemdatabase?
[08:38] <Zamber> (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)
[08:38] <Zamber> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[08:38] <Zamber> (II) Loading local sub module "GLcore"
[08:38] <manchicken> paul___: Grep for apt, dpkg, adept
[08:38] <ORiON-> kpagkage...
[08:39] <ORiON-> kpackage
[08:39] <manchicken> Zamber: Aren't proprietary drivers fun?
[08:39] <Zamber> oh yeah :D
[08:39] <compilerwriter> paul do you know how to pipe the output to grep?
[08:39] <ORiON-> grep for synaptic too
[08:39] <manchicken> I avoid them like the plague.
[08:39] <paul___> no compiler
[08:39] <Zamber> I have DRI running and my card detected corectly but this GL thing is annoying xD
[08:40] <ORiON-> ps -aux | grep synaptic
[08:40] <manchicken> Pretty pictures aren't worth the trouble for me. heh
[08:40] <ORiON-> for example
[08:40] <compilerwriter> Thanis orion
[08:40] <compilerwriter> Thanks Orion.
[08:40] <Zamber> I'm tryingo to run AIGLX :P
[08:40] <compilerwriter> I didn't figure the newbie would necessarily know about the beauty of pipes yet.
[08:41] <larson9999> errr, pipes aren't a new concept and not particular to linux
[08:41] <Zamber> :D
[08:41] <compilerwriter> The beauty of linux paul is the output of most commands can be the input of the others.
[08:42] <manchicken> That has nothing to do with the kernel.
[08:42] <manchicken> That's a function of the shell.
[08:42] <compilerwriter> True larson, but if paul has never played with a command line, as in dos, he would have no clue what one is.
[08:42] <Zamber> oh
[08:42] <larson9999> compilerwriter: nothing special about that either.  same goes for DOS
[08:43] <paul___> I tried writing that, it said 'bad syntax'
[08:43] <compilerwriter> only that dos is not nearly as developed in the capacity.
[08:43] <ORiON-> larson how can i pipe at DOS?
[08:43] <paul___> ps -aux | grep synaptic
[08:43] <manchicken> Piping in shells is older than stink, and is not unique to something using a linux kernel.
[08:43] <Zamber> well, it's sayd that ATI don;t works good with AIGLX
[08:43] <compilerwriter> True manchicken.
[08:43] <Zamber> but I'll change it :P
[08:44] <ORiON-> try
[08:44] <paul___> well I'm going to try to restart. maybe that will fix the problem without me having to close a program manually
[08:44] <ORiON-> ps -aux | grep 'synaptic'
[08:44] <compilerwriter> I have a feeling that our friend Paul here might just be young enough to never have had to do it before.
[08:44] <ORiON-> PAUL
[08:44] <ORiON-> noneed to restart
[08:44] <paul___> ok
[08:44] <ORiON-> this is not the way for solving problems :p
[08:45] <paul___> it says 'perhaps a bogus -?'
[08:45] <compilerwriter> That is another beautiful thing about linux.  One rarely needs to restart the machine.
[08:45] <compilerwriter> Paul try "ps aux | grep synaptic"  without the quotes of course
[08:45] <ORiON-> paul try
[08:46] <paul___> ok that worked
[08:46] <ORiON-> ps -ax | grep 'synaptic'
[08:46] <larson9999> ORiON-: a lot like in linux.  for instance: dir | more
[08:46] <paul___> now should I stop that process?
[08:46] <ORiON-> yup
[08:46] <BluesKaj>  /var/lib/dpkg/ is locked up ...can't install or remove any pkgs with adept,apt or synaptic ...what's the unlock command again ?
[08:46] <heinkel_111> is is http://winehq.org down?
[08:46] <Hawkwind> !adept crash fix | BluesKaj
[08:46] <ubotu> BluesKaj: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:46] <ORiON-> lol its the same problem paul got
[08:47] <BluesKaj> thx Hawkwind
[08:47] <Hawkwind> heinkel_111: Yes, it's down
[08:47] <heinkel_111> :(
[08:47] <ORiON-> u can also kill the process that using it
[08:47] <paul___> ok so I killed the process, then grepped it again, and it just immediately started after I killed it
[08:48] <ORiON-> how did u kill it?
[08:48] <ORiON-> or try to
[08:48] <paul___> sudo kill 6320
[08:48] <compilerwriter> In playing with kmix I have managed to get background noise out of the speakers.
[08:48] <ORiON-> start to mute things
[08:48] <paul___> should I do it another way
[08:48] <ORiON-> until it will stop
[08:48] <ORiON-> u can kill it with
[08:48] <BluesKaj> nope , din't work
[08:48] <ORiON-> killall -s KILL <process-name>
[08:50] <paul___> oh I read the grep thing wrong- there is no synaptic process running.... the process was just me using the grep command
[08:50] <ORiON-> LOL
[08:50] <paul___> what else could be using the package manager? apt? what else?
[08:51] <larson9999> finally got a thin monitor.  has speakers embedded so i figured i'd gain desktop real estate and use them.  only problem is you can barely hear anything.
[08:51] <ORiON-> try to remmber what u used
[08:51] <manchicken> apt, adept, dpkg...
[08:51] <christiane> Hello. I just installed kubuntu 6.10 on a DELL Inspiron 6400 with ATI video (x1300 or x1400, I think). I installed the pkg xorg-fglrx-driver from restricted and even rebooted but the resolution is still vesa's 1024x768. What do I have to do now (don't wanna break anything ;_) )?
[08:51] <larson9999> maybe i'll see if windows still boots and if it's any louder there.
[08:51] <manchicken> It could be adept-notifier.
[08:51] <ORiON-> nah
[08:52] <paul___> yeah there are 3 adept things running: adept_notifier, kdesu -u root -c kdesu adept_installer, and kdesu -u root kdesu adept
[08:52] <manchicken> christiane: Not all ATIs are supported by ATI's proprietary drivers.  Check their list of supported cards for the one you're using.
[08:52] <paul___> should I kill them all?
[08:53] <ORiON-> only the last one
[08:53] <manchicken> christiane: If you use the free software xorg drivers life will be much easier.  You won't get hardware 3d rendering, but you'll get a pretty decent 2d display.
[08:53] <christiane> manchicken: I ran fglrx successfully on this machine with dapper before but can't remember what exactly I did after installing fglrx (if any) ...
[08:54] <manchicken> christiane: I'm one of the (un)?lucky people who is not supported by ATI... even though I'm sure they appreciated the money they made when I bought this laptop.
[08:54] <paul___> ah, still didn't work
[08:54] <ORiON-> brb
[08:55] <christiane> manchicken: When I open kde's control center -> screen/vga it says "vesa" there.
[08:56] <larson9999> i dumped my ati card as soon as i could find someone to tried for an nvidia.  i was having a time getting it installed until i followed the instructions in the 'unofficial ubuntu guide'.
[08:56] <larson9999> s/tried/trade/
[08:56] <manchicken> christiane: Isn't vesa the free software 3d software rendering?
[08:56] <paul___> ok so I killed all the adept processes, there are no apt or dpkg processes, and it still doesn't work.
[08:56] <christiane> manchicken: Do I have to select the just installed fglrx driver?
[08:56] <manchicken> I won't use the non-free drivers for graphics cards.
[08:57] <manchicken> christiane: Dunno.  My card is supported and I wouldn't use their crap drivers even if I was.
[08:57] <ORiON-> i back
[08:57] <ubuntu_> could someone give me a shell comand please? im trying to mount my hard disk form live cd so that the hd icons on my desktop,its hd1 by the way
[08:57] <christiane> manchicken: Maybe I installed not the proprietary driver but xorg's, Where can I find this out?
[08:58] <[miles] > hey guys
[08:58] <[miles] > good evening
[08:58] <ORiON-> [21:56]  <larson9999> s/tried/trade/
[08:58] <manchicken> christiane: I've never installed their crap drivers before, I really wouldn't know.
[08:58] <ORiON-> lol
[08:58] <[miles] > does anyone know htf to get the Sun Java 5 installer to accept the Ok to licence in Adept?
[08:58] <[miles] > damn thing wont acknowledge my keyboard
[08:59] <manchicken> [miles] : Try cancelling and using apt-get directly.
[08:59] <[miles] > cant cancel
[08:59] <[miles] > only close window
[08:59] <[miles] > grrr
[09:00] <manchicken> xkill, clean things up, then apt-get
[09:00] <[miles] > thats an anoying bug
[09:00] <manchicken> That's the non-free installer, not adept.
[09:00] <larson9999> ORiON-: what's funny about that?
[09:00] <compilerwriter> Damn still no sound when I try to play video.
[09:00] <manchicken> Blame Sun, not Kubuntu.
[09:01] <manchicken> The GPL'ed JRE will hopefully change things around.
[09:01] <ORiON-> nothing
[09:01] <ORiON-> u got style
[09:01] <[miles] > manchicken: dude, in Ubuntu it works fine
[09:01] <ORiON-> next time just make it perfect
[09:01] <ORiON-> sed -e 's/tried/trade/g'
[09:02] <manchicken> [miles] : It's the non-free installer trying to be interactive in a program that's trying to do things in an automated fashion that's the problem.
[09:02] <junky> what i have to do, to install .run program???
[09:02] <junky> im new
[09:02] <larson9999> ORiON-: no need for the -e or g
[09:02] <manchicken> junky: What program?
[09:02] <compilerwriter> any ideas orion where I having the conflict?
[09:02] <junky> wolfenstain
[09:03] <junky> enemy territori
[09:03] <ORiON-> -e? u must use it with sed if u want to sub
[09:03] <junky> ?
[09:03] <manchicken> You might want to ask their customer service, but most of the time those .run scripts are nothing but bash scripts.
[09:03] <manchicken> You could just try doing sh ./file.run
[09:03] <junky> ?
[09:03] <junky> oks
[09:04] <manchicken> But there's no guarantee that'll work.
[09:04] <manchicken> It might screw up your system if they packaged it poorly.
[09:04] <ORiON-> complilerwrite? what conflict?
[09:04] <junky> ...
[09:04] <larson9999> ORiON-: like i said.  no need for it
[09:04] <ORiON-> try to run it without -e
[09:05] <ORiON-> "unterminated `s' command"
[09:05] <larson9999> ORiON-: jason@jasonntu:~$ echo 'tried tried' |sed 's/tried/trade/'
[09:05] <larson9999> trade tried
[09:05] <paul___> ok.... I logged out and logged back in, and I still can't run adept or add/remove programs because some other process is using the packaging system database. I don't even remember what program I wanted to get.
[09:06] <junky> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[09:06] <junky> this says
[09:06] <compilerwriter> I can't seem to get sound to work when I try to play mpeg.
[09:07] <manchicken> junky: Contact the people who sold you that game and get support from them on that then.
[09:07] <larson9999> paul___: what message to you get?
[09:07] <manchicken> If they don't support your version of glibc it may be considerably unstable.
[09:07] <larson9999> paul___: did you try 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[09:09] <paul___> when I tried that, it says 'dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[09:09] <manchicken> junky: Now you've discovered why I only use non-free games on gaming appliance devices, such as consoles.
[09:09] <manchicken> ^_^
[09:09] <paul___> ok, I just did that
[09:09] <larson9999> paul___: then do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:10] <larson9999> paul___: after that try 'sudo apt-get update'  again
[09:10] <paul___> ok that worked
[09:10] <paul___> and... problem solved! thanks!
[09:10] <larson9999> paul___: i'm guessing adept will work now?
[09:10] <paul___> what did that do? update the apt-get program?
[09:10] <paul___> yes it does
[09:11] <christiane> manchicken: I found a wiki entry and edited xorg.conf manually and now it works. I think the drivers from xorg don't support my card. I don't need 3D but I need a clear 1280x800 screen. Do you think that's possible with gpl drivers?
[09:11] <larson9999> paul___: adept is basicall a gui for apt-get
[09:11] <paul___> ah ok
[09:11] <manchicken> christiane: xorg drivers should work with a wide-screen 15"
[09:12] <larson9999> paul___: so you can do what you do with adept via apt. only quicker
[09:12] <paul___> oh, I get it
[09:12] <manchicken> christiane: they work just fine with my 17" wide.
[09:12] <paul___> does add/remove programs also use apt?
[09:12] <manchicken> I'm in 1440x900
[09:12] <christiane> manchicken: wow? How to set this resolution?
[09:12] <larson9999> paul___: yeah
[09:12] <manchicken> paul___: Anything that installs programs from repositories or .debs uses the dpkg/apt database.
[09:13] <manchicken> christiane: Use kubuntu's control panel.
[09:13] <christiane> manchicken: Ok. What's the driver's name?
[09:13] <paul___> now onto the next problem: amarok won't play my mp3 files. Gaim and the terminal make little noises, so my sound definately works- does it matter that the mp3s I want are on an NTFS partition?
[09:14] <larson9999> paul___: apt-get update updates the database of packages that are available in the list of repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:14] <manchicken> christiane: Did you use the kubuntu device database?
[09:14] <larson9999> paul___:  do a 'man apt' and or 'man apt-get' for more info
[09:14] <christiane> manchicken: control panel says "detected card: ati radeon (fbdev)". Should I try this
[09:14] <manchicken> christiane: I'm not sure if my ATI will use the same driver as yours.
[09:14] <manchicken> Sure.
[09:14] <manchicken> What've you got to lose?
[09:14] <junky> what i have to do if when i try to run a .run program say:
[09:15] <christiane> manchicken: ;-)
[09:15] <junky> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 linux
[09:15] <paul___> ok I will larson
[09:16] <manchicken> junky: that is a proprietary program.  There is something broken in the install script.  It would be illegal for you to modify it, and illegal for us to help you modify it.  You should contact the customer support department of whatever entity you obtained that program from for support.
[09:16] <junky> ??
[09:16] <manchicken> junky: Did you read the license agreement that came with that program?
[09:16] <larson9999> unless you're some fanatical, everything must be libre, kinda guy, i suggest you use the 3d drivers.  even for non-3d intensive stuff there is usually a noticeable speed increase
[09:16] <johny454> hey everybody
[09:16] <christiane> manchicken: If I select "ati fbdev" a select field is activated and asks "Standard" or "proprietary". Is there a prop. version of xorg's ati drv?
[09:17] <christiane> manchicken: And which one to select here?
[09:17] <manchicken> christiane: I'd use the standard one.
[09:17] <christiane> ok
[09:17] <johny454> Where can i find the languages avaible in Kubuntu?
[09:17] <larson9999> christiane and manchicken did you guys follow the instructions in the unofficial ubuntu guide for installing ati drivers?  so far i haven't found anyone for which that didn't work.
[09:18] <manchicken> larson9999: Proprietary drivers tend to be crap.  Freedom and ethical concerns aside, these hardware vendors do not care about anything outside of windows.  It is foolish to trust anything that comes out of them.
[09:18] <manchicken> larson9999: Not all cards are supported uniformly.
[09:18] <manchicken> Especially not with ATI.
[09:18] <ubuntu_> what am i doing wrog? trying  to mount my hd.
[09:18] <larson9999> manchicken: bollocks!  the proprietary drivers for nvidia and ati are better in terms of performance.  not even close
[09:18] <larson9999>  even if i don't know how to spell bollocks
[09:18] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1/media
[09:18] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hda1/media in /etc/fstab or /etc/mta
[09:19] <christiane> larson9999: I folloed the instructions I found in a (German) wiki on wiki.ubuntuusers.de: Installing fglrx and editing xorg.conf ...
[09:19] <manchicken> larson9999: Not stability.
[09:19] <manchicken> larson9999: Or security.
[09:20] <larson9999> christiane: was it the german version of this? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[09:20] <manchicken> larson9999: They enable hardware rendering (that would be HARDWARE performance, not DRIVER performance) but they do nothing but cause grief for many users.
[09:20] <larson9999> christiane: there is a dapper version too if you're using that.
[09:21] <manchicken> larson9999: Installing proprietary drivers when free ones are available is often times a bad idea.  Kernel hackers have no idea how to maintain compatibility and driver maintainers seldom work to ensure compatibility.
[09:21] <ORiON-> ubuntu_ u got missing parts
[09:21] <ORiON-> at your command
[09:21] <is> "[22:18]  <larson9999> christiane and manchicken did you guys follow the instructions in the unofficial ubuntu guide for installing ati drivers?  so far i haven't found anyone for which that didn't work." not quite right,  there is some problems
[09:21] <ORiON->        The standard form of the mount command, is
[09:21] <ORiON->               mount -t type device dir
[09:22] <larson9999> manchicken: i've been installing video card drivers in linux for a decade now on many, many machines.  i have a decent handle on the open vs closed drivers.
[09:22] <ubuntu_> ORiON-, like what?
[09:22] <ORiON-> the type of your partition
[09:22] <manchicken> larson9999: I disagree.
[09:22] <ORiON-> mountpoint
[09:22] <larson9999> is: maybe there are problems.  i've followed it and installed ati drivers on 50+ machines of difference makes and models.
[09:22] <BluesKaj> trying to remove the flashplayer9 so i can revert to vers 7 (that works ) but adept is frozen at 11% uninstall ...what's the force uninstall command?
[09:23] <larson9999> manchicken: you're free to disagree.  at least in much of the world.
[09:23] <manchicken> larson9999: I don't believe what you just claimed is possible.
[09:23] <manchicken> I don't believe there are more than 50 variants of ATI drivers.
[09:23] <larson9999> manchicken: what's not possible?
[09:24] <is> larson9999:  =) right amd64 + update dapper to edgy ... this made my system totally f&%$^d reinstalled at least 5 times
[09:24] <manchicken> How could you have worked with 50+ ATI drivers if there aren't 50+ ATI drivers in existence?
[09:24] <larson9999> manchicken: makes and models of computers.  but more than 50 machines.  not all were different models.
[09:24] <ciccio_> Hello to all! I have recently switched to kubuntu from fedora
[09:24] <is> larson9999:  without update there is really no problem, thet's true
[09:25] <christiane> larson9999 (manchicken): I only missed the `aticonfig ...` part. What does this do?
[09:25] <manchicken> Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Many of ATI's cards are still not supported (most mobile radeons are not supported).
[09:25] <ciccio_> could someone help me? with the basic?
[09:25] <ciccio_> how can i understand if 3d acceleration works? (first question)
[09:25] <larson9999> manchicken: you buy hw that isn't supported?
[09:26] <ubuntu_> i just tryed the -t ,but it still didint mount it to /media.what didi you mean aboute the file system?think its ext3?or whatever kubuntu uses automaticly
[09:26] <ORiON-> sudo fdisk -l
[09:26] <notech> sercik: glxinfo | grep -i rendering, if it says yes then you have 3D
[09:27] <larson9999> christiane: updates xorg.conf.  i don't use it.
[09:27] <daedra> what the hell is ddate about
[09:27] <sercik> thank you notech
[09:27] <christiane> larson9999: Ok, that's what I did manually ...
[09:27] <sercik> tell direct rendering yes
[09:27] <sercik> but is there some 3d apllication that give me fps or similar?
[09:27] <christiane> sercik: run glxgears if you want to test if it works ...
[09:28] <sercik> i have tried glxgears
[09:28] <larson9999> is: have you migrated to 64 bit?
[09:28] <sercik> but gears is very slow and in console there aren't fps
[09:28] <ORiON-> try glxgears -printfps
[09:28] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda1   *           1         125       62968+  83  Linux
[09:28] <larson9999> manchicken: i agree.  trying to use a proprietary driver to supported hw it doesn't support doesn't make much sense.
[09:29] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda2             126        1118      500472   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[09:29] <sercik> 72831 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14566.197 FPS is good?
[09:29] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda3            1119      116280    58041648   83  Linux
[09:29] <larson9999> manchicken: in that case, i'd recommend the libre 2d driver
[09:29] <ubuntu_> think its hda3
[09:29] <ubuntu_> thats the big one right?
[09:29] <johny454> Where I can find the languages that are available for Kubuntu??
[09:29] <sercik> under system --> language support
[09:30] <larson9999> christiane: and while many her might shudder at the thought.  i usually reboot after installing a new video driver.
[09:30] <ORiON-> yea
[09:30] <sercik> orion yes is for me?
[09:30] <paul___> question: I cannot get mp3s to run in kaffeine, or amarok- and I have the latest version of both. What could I do to fix this?
[09:30] <sercik> yea is for me?
[09:30] <johny454> sercik: but non having installed the system?
[09:30] <ORiON-> nop
[09:30] <is> larson9999:  yep.  now i'm thinkin'bout migrate to x86. too much problems on 64bit os
[09:31] <ORiON-> sercik
[09:31] <larson9999> is: i figured i'd wait for 64bit.  seems others are having enough headaches for me.
[09:31] <manchicken> is: What problems?
[09:31] <ORiON-> never saw such a result
[09:31] <sercik> please help! qhen i press alt+F2 nothing happens
[09:31] <johny454> sercik: if i don't have kubuntu installed, what then?
[09:31] <sercik> why?
[09:31] <HymnToLife> manchicken, depends on what you do with
[09:31] <ORiON-> i got around 1000
[09:31] <sercik> i have kubuntu installed and running
[09:32] <sercik> and i'm using konversation now
[09:32] <manchicken> Well what causes problems?
[09:32] <larson9999> manchicken: i'm working 70 hours a week.  a few problems on my home machine would be way too many at the moment.
[09:32] <ORiON-> and u ask me if 14000+ is good... i think it is :p
[09:32] <johny454> but me know, just i was just trying to obtain whether there are some translations for Kubuntu as for Ubuntu
[09:33] <notech> good depnds on the hardware, and glxgears isn't really meant as a benchmarking tool
[09:33] <ORiON-> u mean translation for kde?
[09:33] <johny454> yeah
[09:33] <ubuntu_> orion no luck with sudo mount -t /dev/hda3/media
[09:33] <ORiON-> there r many
[09:33] <is> got probs with aome distros. no w32codecs, but i found the way to fix it, no java plugin for my firefox, and so..
[09:33] <ORiON-> ubuntu_
[09:33] <sercik> johny
[09:34] <johny454>  couldn't find this info one the official website of Kubuntu
[09:34] <larson9999> notech: yeah but it's an ok cursory idea
[09:34] <larson9999> paul___: you need codecs
[09:34] <ORiON-> wait a min...
[09:34] <sercik> if you go into kde menu system language you can choose many langiages
[09:34] <danny_> hey can someone tell me what lib i need to burn mp3's as regular audio in k3b
[09:34] <sercik> then adept will download language pack for you!
[09:35] <notech> ubuntu_: not sure what you are doing, but there is a space before /media and it should be a mountpoint like /media/something
[09:35] <fdoving> danny_: you need the package: libk3b2-mp3
[09:35] <larson9999> christiane: that working for you?
[09:35] <fred__> how do you add spanish accents in kubuntu?
[09:35] <danny_> oh ya cool thanx i always forget
[09:36] <is> larson9999:  got probs with some distros. no w32codecs, but i found the way to fix it, no java plugin for my firefox, can't get normal support ... and so on
[09:36] <sercik> which is the correct repository for compiz?
[09:36] <notech> ubuntu_: and -t means filesystem type so either specify a type or use -t auto
[09:36] <ubuntu_> i cant just mount it to /media?
[09:36] <sercik> another: how can i enable syntax highlighting in vim?
[09:36] <fdoving> sercik: :syntax on
[09:36] <larson9999> is: yeah but i didn't ask :)
[09:36] <notech> ubuntu_: no, have you looked in /media? you'll see other mountpoints in there
[09:37] <ubuntu_> none just a ipod
[09:37] <ubuntu_> im on a live cd
[09:37] <fdoving> sercik: or put 'syntax on' in ~/.vimrc
[09:37] <root> hi, i tried to startup and when my computer was booting it got stuck at a black screen with a white cursor line in the top left corner, the onlyway i was able to start up was to go into the grub and user recovery mode then startx form the terminal, does anyone know what is wrong and how i can fix it
[09:37] <sercik> tell: this command is not available in this version
[09:37] <manchicken> root: Are you IRCing as root?
[09:37] <larson9999> has 'deb' always used /media or is that a ubuntu thing
[09:38] <fdoving> sercik: check that you have the real vim installed. packagename 'vim', the 'vim-tiny'
[09:38] <fdoving> sercik: does not provide all fancy functions.
[09:38] <root> manchicken: yes
[09:38] <manchicken> root: Don't do that.  Switch to a user account.
[09:38] <root> i cant
[09:38] <manchicken> NEVER use IRC as root.
[09:38] <manchicken> Why not?
[09:38] <root> thats the problem
[09:39] <root> it wont let me
[09:39] <manchicken> You typed `su - USER` and it failed?
[09:39] <root> i can switch user, but theni cant startx
[09:39] <sercik> i have done spt-get install vim
[09:39] <manchicken> then use a text-mode IRC client until you can.
[09:39] <manchicken> It is INSANELY risky to IRC as root.
[09:40] <daedra> what are some good terminal IRC clients?
[09:40] <sercik> please how can i enable alt+F2 in kde?
[09:40] <manchicken> iirc, bitchx, emacs with erc
[09:40] <root> i dont know how to run irc in terminal
[09:40] <fdoving> daedra: irssi, it's installed by default.
[09:40] <daedra> nicccce
[09:41] <fdoving> root: run the command 'irc' iirc.
[09:41] <manchicken> root: `apt-get install bitchx && bitchx`
[09:41] <christiane> manchicken, (larson9999): fbdev as driver froze my whole system (couldn't even switch to tty1). So I'm back on fglrx now.
[09:42] <manchicken> christiane: Wouldn't it be nice if hardware manufacturers actually released specs so that people could write proper drivers?  That would be so nice.
[09:42] <ubuntu_> the ubuntu live cd wont let me make a folder in /media that i can mount to
[09:43] <sercik> fdoving: .vimrc doesn't exists
[09:43] <isD> larson9999:  my bad. probably manchicken confused me. =)  sorry...
[09:43] <ReTyPe> i am using ubuntu with kde, but my firefox still looks like it comes from gnome, can i change this ?
[09:44] <larson9999> christiane: fglrx not good enough for you?
[09:44] <christiane> manchicken: I agree. That would be nice. And I wish I had the tight hardware.
[09:44] <christiane> s/tight/right/
[09:44] <fdoving> sercik: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts -> under 'desktop' find 'Run Command' and set the key combo to 'Alt+F2'.
[09:45] <fdoving> sercik: if .vimrc doesn't exist, create it.
[09:45] <sercik> ok
[09:45] <fdoving> ReTyPe: yes, you can do some hacks.
[09:45] <sercik> the exact syntax to put into .vimrc?
[09:45] <soulrider> hi everyone
[09:45] <fdoving> sercik: 'syntax on' without the quotes.
[09:45] <christiane> larson9999: I ran `glxgears -printfps` and it shows me 155 fps and f*** slow moving animation (cpu usage 100% by xorg). When the glxgears window is not visible it speeds up to 1000+ fps. What's wrong here?
[09:45] <sercik> i have already tried syntax=on but doesn't work
[09:45] <larson9999> christiane: these days, 'tight' also fits :)
[09:46] <sercik> :) i'm not stupid!
[09:46] <soulrider> i just formatted one of my hard drives, it had windows in it. I dont know whyt but i had to reinstall grub. Now i see ht ekubuntu splash screen and then i get "coundt access tty: job control is off"
[09:46] <sercik> without quotes :)
[09:46] <fdoving> !firefox kde | retype
[09:46] <ubotu> retype: Go to http://konquefox.free.fr/ for tips and tricks on making Firefox more KDE-friendly.
[09:46] <soulrider> does anoyne know whats wrong ?
[09:46] <larson9999> christiane: there is always the ,"don't use glxgears as a benchmark" thing
[09:46] <sercik> great now works thank you!
[09:46] <fdoving> sercik: you're welcome.
[09:47] <sercik> alt +F2 don't work please help!!!
[09:47] <soulrider> !tty
[09:47] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[09:47] <fdoving> sercik: i just told you how to solve that. read back please.
[09:47] <sercik> excuse me
[09:48] <christiane> Is there a better tool than glxgears for testing if 3D is activated?
[09:49] <soulrider> fdoving: did you read my error? do you know whats wrong ?
[09:49] <soulrider> i cant access the kubuntu installation on my HD< im on the live CD now
[09:49] <sercik> was mapped win+r strange!
[09:49] <fdoving> christiane: depends.. you can use glxinfo | grep -i rendering
[09:49] <fdoving> soulrider: do you have the exact error message?
[09:49] <soulrider> yes
[09:50] <sercik> vwry good  already two problem solved
[09:50] <soulrider> i see the splash and then an error screen that sais
[09:50] <sercik> i like very much ubuntu people :)
[09:50] <soulrider>  i get: /bin/sh cant access tty. job control is off
[09:50] <christiane> fdoving: direct rendering: No. Mmh ... Doesn't sound that nice ...
[09:51] <fdoving> christiane: then you know it doesn't work. when it says 'Yes' it works.
[09:51] <christiane> fdoving: ;-)
[09:51] <fdoving> soulrider: where was the partition you deleted located? before the kubuntu partitions?
[09:51] <christiane> fdoving: How can I activate it? (Using fglrx drivers)
[09:52] <root> hi, i have a problem, when i boot up all i get is a black screen with a white line in the topleft corner, the only way i can even start the computer is to go under recovery mode and startx from there, can someone please help
[09:52] <soulrider> uhm, yeah
[09:52] <soulrider> the number yes
[09:52] <soulrider> but i reinstalled grub and everything
[09:53] <christiane> But now for something completely different. The reason I switched to Edgy was the missing support of my wireless card in Dapper. So I'm completely new to WLAN on kubuntu (and linux). How to activate it?
[09:53] <fdoving> soulrider: doesn't always matter. if you deleted a partiton without re-partitioning the space, the numbers in /etc/fstab are possibly wrong.
[09:54] <fdoving> !wireless | christiane
[09:54] <ubotu> christiane: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:54] <hex_st0rm> !pastebin
[09:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:54] <christiane> fdoving: Thanks.
[09:55] <soulrider> i actually split a partition
[09:55] <fdoving> christiane: as for the fglrx drivers, i always recommend using the kanotix scripts, from a terminal session run: wget http://kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh ; chmod 755 install-fglrx-debian.sh; sudo ./install-fglrx-debian.sh
[09:55] <soulrider> fdoving: kubuntu is in sda5 i formatted sda3
[09:56] <fdoving> soulrider: if you split sda3, that would explain it.
[09:56] <fdoving> soulrider: are you on a livecd now?
[09:56] <soulrider> yes
[09:56] <fdoving> soulrider: check 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda'
[09:56] <fdoving> or use qtparted.
[09:56] <soulrider> id rather use qtparted
[09:57] <aleksanteri> i need help again :D
[09:57] <root> hi, i have a problem, when i boot up all i get is a black screen with a white line in the topleft corner, the only way i can even start the computer is to go under recovery mode and startx from there, can someone please help
[09:57] <aleksanteri> it doesn't boot i guess
[09:57] <soulrider> fdoving: i see the partitons
[09:57] <fdoving> soulrider: are they in the correct order?
[09:58] <soulrider> i just realized i didnt format them
[09:58] <soulrider> i got
[09:58] <ubuntu_> shit i gusse i cant mount to that folder
[09:58] <soulrider> linux in sda5, its allways been in sda5
[09:58] <fdoving> soulrider: you didn't split anything?
[09:58] <soulrider> i did, but i didnt format them
[09:59] <soulrider> im making them ext 3 now
[09:59] <sercik> k
[09:59] <fdoving> soulrider: splitting is what breaks things.. formatting doesn't..
[09:59] <soulrider> oh
[09:59] <soulrider> ok
[09:59] <sercik> someone of us use konversation?
[09:59] <aleksanteri> hey i need to know my NVIDIA driver identifier, how can i get that (WIN XP)
[09:59] <soulrider> i use konversation
[09:59] <sercik> soulrider some like perform in mirc?
[10:00] <BluesKaj>  still can't get rid of the flashplayer ...error message; run dpkg --configure -a..so i do and the damn thing is still there
[10:00] <sercik> i want to identify in automatic
[10:00] <soulrider> i dont think theres mirc for linux =/
[10:00] <sercik> ok
[10:00] <soulrider> fdoving: how can i fix my issue ?
[10:00] <sercik> i want to tell:
[10:00] <bXi> you could use wine to run mirc of course
[10:00] <sercik> a function that execute at startup some command
[10:01] <sercik> like do perform on mirc
[10:01] <BluesKaj> sercik, use konversation .. it's VG
[10:01] <fdoving> soulrider: first, you need to know what the new name of your linux partition is, if you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' i'll help you pick.
[10:01] <aleksanteri>  i need to know my NVIDIA driver identifier, how can i get that (WIN XP)
[10:01] <sercik> VG?
[10:01] <fdoving> sercik: very good.
[10:02] <soulrider> its /dev/sda5
[10:02] <sercik> ok
[10:02] <sercik> oooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk i use konversation
[10:02] <paul___> what is a good podcast program for linux?
[10:02] <sercik> but i need to launch some command on startup
[10:02] <sercik> like join some channel and identify my nick
[10:02] <BluesKaj> podcast smodcast use amc
[10:02] <BluesKaj> a mac
[10:02] <Lynoure> paul___: I use ipodder/juice but it has some bugs
[10:03] <soulrider> !pastebin
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[10:03] <Lynoure> paul___: or a bug that irritates me, rather, have not ran into others
[10:03] <sercik> !pastebin
[10:03] <root> hi, i have a problem, when i boot up all i get is a black screen with a white line in the topleft corner, the only way i can even start the computer is to go under recovery mode and startx from there, can someone please help
[10:03] <Lynoure> paul___: Try it? The bug is that it freezes on second adding of a new cast from its directory tab.
[10:04] <aleksanteri>  i need to know my NVIDIA driver identifier, how can i get that (WIN XP)
[10:04] <soulrider> !pastebin
[10:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:04] <aleksanteri> plz?
[10:04] <fdoving> !repeat | aleksanteri
[10:04] <ubotu> aleksanteri: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:05] <soulrider> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36324/
[10:05] <aleksanteri> !patience
[10:05] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:05] <paul___> lynoure: this is a dumb question, but how do I run juice once I install it? it isn't in the k-menu..
[10:05] <fdoving> soulrider: sda3, sda4 and sda5 are linux partitions.
[10:06] <soulrider> yes
[10:06] <fdoving> soulrider: sda3 was the one you split?
[10:06] <soulrider> but sda5 holds kubuntu
[10:06] <soulrider> yes
[10:06] <soulrider> 3 was FAT, i split it into 2 ext3
[10:06] <BluesKaj>  still can't get rid of the flashplayer ...error message; run dpkg --configure -a.. no luck, it's still there ...any ideas ?
[10:06] <fdoving> BluesKaj: what error message?
[10:06] <fdoving> soulrider: ok. so sda5 has always been sda5?
[10:06] <BluesKaj> fdoving, dpkg --configure -a
[10:07] <soulrider> yes
[10:07] <BluesKaj> fdoving, it tells me to run it
[10:07] <fdoving> BluesKaj: that's the command.. can you pastebin the error message? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:07] <Lynoure> paul___: you can add it there yourself, but on dapper typing  ipodder  does it
[10:07] <paul___> what is dapper?
[10:07] <fdoving> !dapper | paul___
[10:07] <ubotu> paul___: dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[10:07] <LjL> !dapper | paul___
[10:07] <paul___> oh ok
[10:07] <Lynoure> paul___: ubuntu lts version
[10:08] <BluesKaj> fdoving, it tells me to run it that comnd
[10:08] <paul___> oh
[10:08] <paul___> is there a gui for juice?
[10:08] <Lynoure> paul___: it is juice
[10:08] <fdoving> soulrider: ok. go to a konsole session. run 'sudo mkdir -p /media/root; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/root'
[10:08] <Lynoure> paul___: just with the old name
[10:08] <christiane> Anyone an idea for dmesg's "bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed."?
[10:08] <fdoving> soulrider: now, you linux system should be mounted to /media/root
[10:09] <soulrider> ok
[10:09] <fdoving> christiane: yes, you're missing the bcm43xx firmware.
[10:09] <aleksanteri> brb
[10:09] <soulrider> i did that to restore grub earlier
[10:09] <aleksanteri> because
[10:09] <aleksanteri> 'Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] "'
[10:09] <aleksanteri> i found it :D
[10:09] <Lynoure> paul___: and if you meant to ask, isn't it graphical. Yes, it is but you can launch it from command line, of course
[10:09] <christiane> fdoving: Thanks. I'll look if there's a pkg ...
[10:09] <fdoving> soulrider: ok. check /media/root/etc/fstab, is sda5 listed as / ?
[10:09] <paul___> ah ok
[10:09] <fdoving> christiane: there is. bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:09] <root> hi, i have a problem, when i boot up all i get is a black screen with a white line in the topleft corner, the only way i can even start the computer is to go under recovery mode and startx from there, can someone please help
[10:09] <CaBlGuY> !googleearth
[10:09] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[10:09] <paul___> I launched juice from a command line, and it was kind of graphical
[10:10] <paul___> now im downloading ipodder though
[10:10] <fdoving> christiane: it's in universe, after it's installed run 'sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh' from a konsole session.
[10:10] <sercik> t
[10:11] <paul___> ok cool-- how do I add ipodder to the k-menu??
[10:11] <christiane> fdoving: Ok, I installed it and will now run the script. Thank you.
[10:12] <sercik> i have always used red-hat derivates (rpm) now which is the command like rpm -qpl packagename.rpm? in kubuntu?
[10:12] <soulrider> oh no, sda6 appears as root
[10:12] <fdoving> root: try to reboot your computer, at the grub screen, navigate to the non-recovery mode kernel entry. do not hit enter, hit 'e' isntead, now you'll be able to edit the commandline arguments sendt to the kernel at boot time. use the arrow keys to navigate to the far right side, remove 'quiet' and 'splash' and hit 'b' (if i remember correct) to boot.
[10:13] <fdoving> soulrider: then edit the fstab file to match your current setup.
[10:13] <soulrider> allright, i did
[10:13] <soulrider> im gonna test :)
[10:13] <soulrider> thank you!
[10:13] <fdoving> sercik: what does -qpl do? query package list? list files in a package?
[10:13] <jongt> why isn 915resolution in adept?
[10:13] <root> ok, will try that
[10:14] <inetpro> sercik: List files in <pkg-file>?
[10:14] <inetpro> sercik: dpkg-deb -c <pkg-file>
[10:15] <inetpro> sercik: see also: http://nakedape.cc/wiki/PackageManagerCheatsheet
[10:19] <Murchadh> I have two Kubuntu installs, 6.06 and 6.10. They both name eth0 and eth1 differently (6.10 has reversed their order). How do I change them back?
[10:19] <sercik> inetpro i want to know which files have installed an package.deb
[10:20] <sercik> yuor solution is to know which files are contained is a file that you want to install
[10:20] <dave> GUYS!!! i have a giant problem
[10:21] <sercik> i have tried dpkg -l kdemultimeida but it lists only directory
[10:21] <inetpro> sercik: you want to know what package a file depends on?
[10:21] <sercik> no no
[10:21] <dave> so, i installed this login (kdm) theme
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> dave, okay
[10:22] <sercik> example i want to destry juk noatun etc. i want to know which packages contain it!
[10:22] <soulrider> fdoving: didnt work
[10:22] <dave> and then everytime i start up, it says that it doesnt contain a login/password box
[10:22] <sercik> i think is kdemultimedia already installed
[10:22] <sercik> but to be sure i want to ask
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> !seen Jucato
[10:22] <ubotu> I last saw Jucato (n=jucato@124.106.178.61) 3h 56m 39s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[10:22] <fdoving> soulrider: ok. check ubuntuforums.org I have to go watch tv with gf.
[10:22] <sercik> before uninstall it
[10:22] <soulrider> k, have fun
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> ah he may be asleep
[10:22] <dave> so i'm using the failsafe login to alk to you.... anyways, whats the command for the login window manager
[10:22] <TheGateKeeper> hiya Admiral_Chicago
[10:22] <soulrider> ahh Admiral_Chicagomaybe you know my error
[10:23] <soulrider> i see my kubuntu splash screen, but then i get an error saying: /bin/sh couldnt access tty: job control off
[10:23] <Admiral_Chicago> dave, i don't understand, what are you trying to do
[10:23] <soulrider> dave, try kdeinit
[10:24] <inetpro> sercik: sorry
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, sounds like something is trying to run but can't communicate with X
[10:24] <dave> well, go to the k menu, then go to settings(i think) then find the program that says login manager
[10:24] <paul___> how do I install something for a tar.gz file?
[10:24] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: i got it after i split one of my partitions
[10:24] <dave> and find the command that the program is
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, have you tried fsck
[10:24] <sercik> inetpro sorry for what :)
[10:25] <soulrider> err
[10:25] <soulrider> nope
[10:25] <inetpro> sercik: sorry for not able to help on that
[10:25] <soulrider> i found something on the forums
[10:25] <inetpro> sercik: i normally use aptitude in stead of apt-get
[10:25] <fdoving> soulrider: echekc http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292533
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, does X start?
[10:25] <fdoving> soulrider: i mean *check
[10:26] <dave> can someone just please go to the k menu, go to settings, find the gnome login manager, and find the comand that runs it so i can run it myself, and fix this silly problem
[10:26] <Admiral_Chicago> dave, you want gdm?
[10:26] <dave> i'm not sure
[10:26] <soulrider> fdoving: im opening the link
[10:26] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: im not sure
[10:26] <dave> i believe that might be it
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> dave, okay hold on a sec, please me specific about what you want to do
[10:27] <dave> go to the kmenu
[10:27] <dave> go to setting
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[10:27] <dave> find the gnome login manager
[10:27] <dave> then figure out what the console command for it is
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> gdm. okay
[10:27] <Ash-Fox> Anyone happen to know why a wmv video displays just fine in mplayer but not in xine? I mean, they're both using the same Microsoft DLLs to decode stuff... :/
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> dave, sudo apt-get install gdm
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:28] <twosouls82> Ash-Fox: the newest mplayer uses a special lib for it, not the codecs
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[10:28] <dave> alright, if thats not it i'm going to be back
[10:28] <Ash-Fox> twosouls82, ah, I see.
[10:28] <LjL> and VLC can also play (some) WMV without the win32 codecs
[10:28] <twosouls82> indeed LjL, using the same lib
[10:28] <fdoving> sercik: juk and noatun are separate packages, but the meta-package kdemultimedia depends on them. you can check reverse depends with 'apt-cache rdepends <packagename>'
[10:28] <inetpro> sercik: see also http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude.php
[10:29] <inetpro> sercik: don't know if it will help in this specific case
[10:29] <eilker> !Conky
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Conky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <twosouls82> Ash-Fox: use kmplater :)
[10:29] <twosouls82> kmplayer*
[10:29] <LjL> !conky
[10:29] <paul___> do any of the linux media programs play .avi files encoded in divx?
[10:29] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[10:30] <sercik> ok
[10:30] <LjL> uh... yeah
[10:30] <LjL> Ubotu, tell paul___ about divx | paul___, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:30] <sercik> thanks to all
[10:30] <twosouls82> paul___: yeah, which not?
[10:30] <sercik> i have used the search function on synaptic
[10:30] <sercik> to find what yoy have already told
[10:30] <sercik> juk and notun azre separated package
[10:30] <sercik> great people here!!!
[10:31] <eilker> LjL: i have no idea for conky and torsmo, which one do u suggest to use ?
[10:32] <inetpro> sercik: i also moved from redhat to kubuntu and i'm here to stay... :)
[10:32] <LjL> eilker: i barely know what the former is, and have no idea what the latter is
[10:32] <sercik> good
[10:32] <eilker> LjL: i see, thank you
[10:34] <inetpro> sercik: of course we don't want to start a distro war...
[10:35] <eilker> !torsmo
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torsmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <twosouls82> !jameskim
[10:36] <ubotu> jameskim is CNET senior editor who went missing and was later found dead in the snow in southern Oregon.  See http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,72253-0.html?tw=wn_culture_1, http://news.com.com/2009-12-6141617.html?tag=cnetfd.ld1, http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9667036-1.html?subj=Crave&part=rss&tag=feed&tag=cnetfd.blog
[10:36] <christiane_> !xvid
[10:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:40] <harmental> where are icon images usually stored in kubuntu?
[10:40] <twosouls82> in /usr/share/icons
[10:40] <markelhas> hi ppl can anyone help me out share my printer to a kubuntu and a windows machine?
[10:40] <coreymon77> hey guys
[10:41] <harmental> twosouls82: Thx!!!
[10:41] <coreymon77> what are the kde 3.5.5 repos?
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !share
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> err no
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !print
[10:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:43] <Admiral_Chicago> markelhas, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:43] <twosouls82> np harmental
[10:43] <dave> ok, so my bloody login kdm deal doesnt work still
[10:43] <markelhas> Admiral_Chicago: i've my printer installed on a kubuntu machine and i want to share it to another kubuntu machine and a windows machine too
[10:45] <dave> i get the message "The greeter theme is corrupt:  The them does not contain definitions for the username/password entry element"  when I click ok, it says "There was an error loading the them and the default theme could not be loaded.  Attempting to start the standard greeter."  at this point, there is just a blank screen... I'm assuming the standard greeter doesn't work.
[10:45] <coreymon77> guys
[10:45] <coreymon77> are there kde 3.5.5 repos for edgy
[10:45] <coreymon77> cause my friend has edgy but not 355
[10:45] <coreymon77> he has 3.5.2
[10:46] <dave> anyways, i have one idea for a solution... and your help will require minimal effort.  Simply go to the k menu, click settings, find the gnome login manager, and find the command for starting it.  This way i will be able to run it in the failsafe konsole that i am currently running.
[10:46] <Whopper> yup
[10:46] <twosouls82> handy that axel app for slow ftp servers.. why didn't I think of it earlier =)
[10:46] <reldruh> hello
[10:47] <reldruh> I'm trying to install the Serenity theme in kubuntu, but the only download I find at kde-look is a source download, rpm and ebuild. Can anybody point me in the right direction?
[10:48] <dave> please, someone just click the kmenu and figure out the command for me
[10:48] <twosouls82> reldruh: use checkinstall to create a packae of your own.. that is if you can't find a package... read the README of it before use
[10:49] <reldruh> twosouls82: thanks. I'll take a look at it now
[10:50] <twosouls82> reldruh: goodluck.. it is dandy handy for UNOFFICIAL packages
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> markelhas, sorry i'm not much of a printer perosn
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> dave, i'm sorry i'm not on my KDE machine right now, i'm on GNOME
[10:51] <dave> well, you can still assist me
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> how is that?
[10:51] <dave> its a gnome app that i'm looking for, not a kde
[10:51] <triki> i might be able to
[10:51] <triki> nm
[10:51] <markelhas> Admiral_Chicago: i think with the link u gave me i'll manage to do it
[10:51] <markelhas> Admiral_Chicago: thnks
[10:52] <dave> i'd be able to tell you the exact name of the program i'm looking for, but i cant get into the gui
[10:52] <reldruh> twosouls82: I feel dumb. A theme is just a package, huh? That's what I didn't get. I thought it was like a wallpaper, something I download, then apply in a preference dialog. But it has to be installed, just like any other package. I wonder why it wouldn't be in the repositories, though
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> markelhas, no problem, there is great documentation, just google around or check out help.ubuntu.com
[10:52] <MattSG> anyone know why I can't ping or connect to 192.168.0.*, even my gateway?
[10:52] <dave> its just something along the lines of a login display manager
[10:52] <MattSG> using a Broadcom wireless card
[10:52] <triki> MattSG: what is your default gw ip ?
[10:52] <jasin> How do I apply a kernel patch?
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> dave, you are looking for gdm
[10:53] <markelhas> Admiral_Chicago: resolved on kubuntu machine now going to try in windows machine
[10:53] <twosouls82> reldruh: not every app that exists is being packed... what theme?
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !info gdm
[10:53] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[10:53] <reldruh> twosouls82: serenity
[10:53] <jasin> kubuntu dont use gnome
[10:53] <dave> i dont think its gdm
[10:53] <triki> kdm
[10:53] <dave> i have kubuntu and ubuntu installed
[10:53] <dave> or kdm
[10:54] <jasin> dave, why?
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> dave, gdm and kdm are the log in managers
[10:54] <dave> its this thing where you can alter the login window with different things
[10:54] <dave> different themes that is
[10:54] <twosouls82> reldruh: pm
[10:54] <MattSG> default gateway IP is 192.168.0.1
[10:54] <triki> kdm theme manager ?
[10:54] <dave> and as for why i have both, sometimes i'm in a gnome mood, sometimes a kde mood
[10:54] <triki> MattSG: what is the ip your wireless nic has ?
[10:54] <triki> MattSG: do a ifconfig and see
[10:55] <jasin> KDM (KDE Display Manager) is a graphical login interface for computers using Unix-like operating systems. It is the K Desktop Environment replacement for XDM, the default X display manager. KDM allows users to pick their session type on a per-login basis.
[10:55] <reldruh> twosouls82: 'Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems'
[10:55] <dave> really, just go to the k menu, go to settings, then find something called something along the lines of the login manager
[10:55] <twosouls82> reldruh: you are not regged?
[10:56] <reldruh> twosouls82: no
[10:56] <twosouls82> :)
[10:56] <jasin> ok, no one answered my question
[10:56] <twosouls82> damn
[10:56] <dave> you see, the problem started when i installed a login theme... it doesnt work i now realize
[10:56] <coreymon77> guys
[10:56] <coreymon77> for edgy
[10:56] <MattSG> 192.168.0.102, and my connection works fine, just not to other computers on the subnet.
[10:56] <dave> so i need to find that program so i can change it back to the original
[10:56] <dave> the original theme that is
[10:56] <twosouls82> please do so, then I can guide you through... without spoiling the room
[10:56] <triki> MattSG: you can ping default gw ?
[10:56] <coreymon77> are the repos for kde 3.5.5 the same as the dapper ones posted on the kubuntu website
[10:56] <twosouls82> ^- reldruh
[10:57] <coreymon77> except you just change dapper to edgy
[10:57] <dave> seriously, i'm just asking you to right click something in the k menu... why do i not have an answer yet?
[10:57] <jasin> I dont like gnome
[10:57] <MattSG> no, I can't ping it
[10:57] <dave> jasin, what is your q, maybe i can take a whack at it
[10:57] <jasin> ping 127.0.0.1
[10:58] <jasin> How do I apply a kernel patch?
[10:58] <triki> MattSG: type this 'route'
[10:58] <triki> what do you get
[10:58] <dave> oh, that i dont know
[10:58] <dave> do you think you can freaking click a button for me? anyone?
[10:58] <MattSG> ah, gateway *
[10:58] <triki> try this
[10:58] <Zamber> *click*
[10:59] <triki> MattSG: sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[10:59] <jasin> I extract it to /usr/src ?
[10:59] <triki> can you ping other system on the network ?
[10:59] <dave> so how can i change my login themes via the console?
[10:59] <marco_> kde software is really nice. I'm very impressed with kopete. Is very nice the personalisation of visual behavior
[10:59] <jasin> I know I can use patch -p0 ?
[11:00] <jasin> kde in kubuntu is faster then kde in other distros.
[11:01] <triki> nah
[11:01] <dave> now i have another question... why hasn't anyone answered my previous simple question?
[11:01] <triki> ran perfectly in gentoo for me
[11:01] <coreymon77> and im wondering about kde 3.5.5 in edgy
[11:01] <coreymon77> as in
[11:01] <coreymon77> how to get it
[11:01] <jasin> core, use apt-get
[11:01] <LjL> dave: because i've always done that from inside KDE (and i haven't done it that often anyway)?
[11:01] <coreymon77> i know tha
[11:02] <coreymon77> tbut i need the distros
[11:02] <coreymon77> i mean
[11:02] <coreymon77> the repos
[11:02] <dave> can someone please find out what the command to run the gnome login display manager is for me?
[11:02] <dave> all you have to do is this:
[11:02] <MattSG> well, the default destination already had the right gateway
[11:02] <coreymon77> jasin: i need the repos for it
[11:02] <MattSG> it's the 192.168.0.0 destination that has * for a gateway. Is that how it's supposed to be?
[11:02] <dave> open the k menu, go to settings, then find the thing that says login manager
[11:02] <triki> MattSG: can you ping localhost or the ip of your wireless card ?
[11:02] <jasin> corey, you ussing ubuntu breezy?
[11:02] <coreymon77> jasin: no
[11:02] <coreymon77> edgy
[11:02] <hammer> hello
[11:02] <jasin> oh, ok
[11:03] <triki> MattSG: better yet also do 'sudo dhclient'
[11:03] <niblets> I'm trying to get helix engine working in amarok, I have recompiled from sources, and installed RealPlayer, and set the proper paths, but it still comes up with the error "The Helix Engine requires the RealPlayer(tm) or HelixPlayer libraries to be installed. Please make sure one is installed, and adjust the paths in "Amarok Settings" -> "Engine""
[11:03] <coreymon77> jasin: the ones on the kubuntu website are for dapper
[11:03] <hammer> where is the sources list located?
[11:03] <MattSG> I can ping myself
[11:03] <coreymon77> hammer: /etc/apt
[11:04] <dave> alright, i'm going to look elsewhere for help
[11:04] <jasin> yeah, kubuntu is outdated
[11:04] <triki> MattSG: how many routers do you have ?
[11:04] <luca> hi everyone
[11:04] <coreymon77> jasin: so what are the ones for edgy?
[11:04] <luca> does anyone know why I cannot install libgl1-mesa-glx AND the other mesa packages (mesa, mesa-dri) at the same time?
[11:04] <triki> MattSG: one wired to internet and another for wireless ?
[11:05] <jasin> kubuntu comes with 2.6.17 kernel and its not even 686
[11:05] <MattSG> I have an ethernet card, and a wireless card, yes. The ethernet cable is unpluged
[11:05] <hammer> ok now i have to uncomment all of it right?
[11:05] <jasin> 2.6.19 is stable
[11:05] <kakalto> jasin; stable by the makers
[11:05] <triki> MattSG: how many routers do you have ?
[11:05] <MattSG> one router
[11:05] <kakalto> linux distrobutions tend to have their own standards of what they call 'stable'
[11:06] <mc__> how to remove a package when even dpkg --force-all --purge  does not work?
[11:06] <triki> MattSG: so you get an ip from dhcp, but you can't ping gw or other machines on network
[11:06] <jasin> Installing KDE on an Ubuntu system. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[11:06] <larson9999> wine is back up for those who missed it :)  and there is a new version.  they update it every 7 minutes
[11:07] <triki> MattSG: did you set the ip statically ?
[11:07] <MattSG> disabling the other ethernet adapter fixed it
[11:07] <christiane_> WTF?!? The speed over my wifi eth1 is about 120 kbit/s. Status on my WRT says 1Mbit/s nominal speed. I'm sitting 2 ft. away from the AP. When I switch to another OS it works with 54 Mbit (throughput 30 Mbit). What's wrong here?
[11:07] <coreymon77> jasin: i have kde
[11:07] <jasin> kakalto, all distros build off of the kernel developed by linus.
[11:07] <triki> MattSG: nice !
[11:07] <coreymon77> i want to upgrade
[11:08] <kakalto> jasin: all _linux_ distros do, yes
[11:08] <luca> anyone has any ideas? I do not have a graphic card functioning at the moment
[11:08] <larson9999> what is a noexec kernell?: "Better support for noexec kernels"
[11:08] <triki> luca: proper drivers installed ?
[11:08] <rance> I need some help with a package management issue, if you apt-get install something that also installs dependencies, and you later uninstall the package, how do you go back and find out what packages were installed that you don't need anymore and get rid of those as well
[11:08] <Zamber> !kernel
[11:08] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:08] <luca> triki: I wonder if
[11:09] <triki> modprobe and see
[11:09] <kakalto> jasin: but what linus and the kernel devs call 'stable' for the kernel 2.6.19 is different from what, say, a distro might call stable
[11:09] <triki> lsmod sorry
[11:09] <Zamber> triki that packages - if unused are noticed by apt-get automaticly
[11:09] <kakalto> jasin: hence in a distro like debian or gentoo, 2.6.19 kernel won't be "stable" for a while yett
[11:09] <larson9999> rance, if they were installed for dependent reasons, uninstalling them will also uninstall the app that depended on them.  you can install without resolving dependencies but that's not for the weak hearted
[11:10] <triki> ?
[11:10] <jasin> kakalto, 2.6.19 is listed as stable on kernel.org
[11:10] <luca> triki: video 0
[11:10] <kakalto> jasin: yes. that's not disputed =)
[11:10] <hammer> dam this is hard
[11:10] <jasin> corey, like I orginally said, use apt-get
[11:10] <Zamber> jasin stabile kernet don't equals stabile distro
[11:10] <jasin> corey, try apt-get upgrade kde
[11:10] <hammer> i open a term sudo kate and made adjustments says i cant change
[11:11] <triki> luca: what kinda card you have ?
[11:11] <hammer> sudo is root no?
[11:11] <rance> well what I did was install kmplayer, and all its deps, now when I uninstalled kmplayer all the deps are still floating around, how do I find those after the fact
[11:11] <jasin> Zamber, of course
[11:11] <triki> hammer: yes
[11:11] <luca> triki: Intel 85x
[11:11] <kakalto> jasin: however, kernel 2.6.19, "stable", is in current ubuntu unstable - feisty
[11:11] <galathalion> hammer: duper user do :>
[11:11] <sbcl3> hello. i'm having a bit of a problem. K3B can't seem to process a CUE file that has multiple flac files and information about between-track gaps (for burning)
[11:11] <PPAAUULL> Could someone tell me the command for glxgears so that it will give me a readout of the FPS?
[11:11] <larson9999> rance, because those apps don't depend on kmplayer :)
[11:11] <triki> luca: you're using kubuntu ?
[11:11] <Zamber> rance go to adept or synaptic and in the description of the package you'll have the dependicies
[11:12] <Zamber> or check on google
[11:12] <rance> ok
[11:12] <christiane_> PPAAUULL: -printps
[11:12] <twosouls82> reldruh: :) I am bugging you again
[11:12] <rance> that will work
[11:12] <luca> triki: yes
[11:12] <christiane_> PPAAUULL: -printfps
[11:12] <PPAAUULL> ok thanks
[11:12] <reldruh> twosouls82: Kopete crashed on me, give me one second?
[11:12] <niblets> I'm trying to get helix engine working in amarok, I have recompiled from sources, and installed RealPlayer, and set the proper paths, but it still comes up with the error "The Helix Engine requires the RealPlayer(tm) or HelixPlayer libraries to be installed. Please make sure one is installed, and adjust the paths in "Amarok Settings" -> "Engine""
[11:12] <Sanne> rance: for dependencies of packages you can also search on packages.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <luca> triki: I tried foolishly to install the nvidia drivers, now I am in the cold :(
[11:12] <jasin> kubuntu is not a distro though, ubuntu is technically not even a distro.
[11:12] <Zamber> reldruh use gaim :p
[11:12] <twosouls82> aye :)
[11:13] <niblets> any ideas what to do?
[11:13] <twosouls82> or a real app -> Konversation
[11:13] <sbcl3> hello. i'm having a bit of a problem. K3B can't seem to process a CUE file that has multiple flac files and information about between-track gaps (for burning)
[11:13] <twosouls82> =)
[11:13] <larson9999> jasin, and wine is not an emulator!
[11:13] <jasin> larson lol
[11:13] <triki> luca: dell laptop ?
[11:13] <Zamber> !RealPlayer
[11:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:13] <verbose> and gnu is not unix!
[11:13] <luca> triki: ibm
[11:13] <luca> triki: R50e
[11:14] <rance> I know ubuntu is based on debian, but then so is Knoppix, buy why wouldnt the changes be significant enough to get to be a "distro"
[11:14] <TheGateKeeper> who knows their way arouund iptables?
[11:14] <niblets> thanks
[11:14] <triki> luca: do this 'lspci |grep AGP'
[11:14] <larson9999> and mac invented windows
[11:14] <twosouls82> and a distro isn't Linux but GNU/Linux, based on the Linux kernel
[11:14] <kakalto> Zamber: he tried following the RestrictedFormats guide, to no avail
[11:14] <triki> see which model it is
[11:14] <Zamber> kakalto oh
[11:14] <larson9999> and COBOL is dead
[11:14] <Zamber> so look on google ;P
[11:15] <luca> triki: no output
[11:15] <kakalto> Zamber: I've been trying te help him for a while =/
[11:15] <jasin> kubuntu is a version of ubuntu not a distro.
[11:15] <triki> luca: ok just do 'lspci'
[11:15] <triki> look for video card
[11:15] <jasin> kubuntu is a version of ubuntu its not a distro.
[11:15] <kakalto> jasin: technically, yes. but for commonspeak, that complicates things when you're not debating that fact
[11:15] <jba_> ciao a tutti
[11:15] <triki> luca: 'lspci |grep VGA'
[11:16] <Zamber_aw> xD
[11:16] <MattSG> btw, anyone know why my tooltips are not disabling? Do I need to relogin or something?
[11:16] <jba_> :)
[11:16] <larson9999> i call it *buntu. pronounced 'star buntu'
[11:16] <luca> triki: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[11:16] <luca> !it jba
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it jba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <luca> !it
[11:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:17] <jba_> grazie!
[11:17] <Zamber_aw> !pl
[11:17] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:17] <Zamber_aw> :D
[11:17] <jasin> xandros, knoppix, unbuntu,etc.. their all built off of debian.
[11:17] <jasin> xandros, knoppix, ubuntu,etc.. their all built off of debian.
[11:17] <jba_> ciao a tutti
[11:18] <kakalto> jasin: you don't have to repeat yourself
[11:18] <jba_> c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi con ATI 9700 su kubuntu
[11:18] <luca> triki: any ideas? :(
[11:18] <jba_> ?
[11:18] <hammer> ok im confused here i try to switch user to be root and its not accepting my pw
[11:18] <kakalto> hammer: sudo su?
[11:18] <luca> jba: vai su #kubuntu-it o parla inglese! questo non  un canale italiano
[11:19] <hammer> ill try that then
[11:19] <jasin> A distro by definition is: A Linux distribution is a version of a Unix-like operating system for computers comprising of the Linux kernel, all or part of the GNU operating system, and assorted libraries and applications.
[11:19] <hammer> i was trying just su and it also wouldnt accept pw
[11:19] <notech> jasin: seems kubuntu fits that
[11:19] <hammer> finally
[11:19] <hammer> ty
[11:19] <larson9999> jasin, so they are all distros then by definition
[11:19] <kakalto> jasin: then by that definition, surely kubuntu is one then?
[11:20] <Sanne> hammer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:20] <jasin> notech, not really since its built off of ubuntu, ubuntu is the distro, but even that in its self is built off of debian its not a nos in its self.
[11:20] <kakalto> jasin: ubuntu is a version of debian; therefore a distro
[11:21] <kakalto> jasin: call it a subdistro, no-one really cares too much, and it's a bit off-topic
[11:21] <jasin> kakalto, never said it wasn't.
[11:21] <notech> jasin: doesn't matter what its built off of, its put together and has all the requirements
[11:21] <jasin> katalto, you're the one that brought this up not I.
[11:21] <larson9999> jasin, yes really.  by definition, specifically the one you quoted, they are all distrs.
[11:21] <hammer> why doesnt kate work in term now
[11:21] <notech> jasin: perhaps you should take your argument too places like distrowatch and see howw far you get
[11:21] <kakalto> jasin: indeed, hence I'm trying to stop it
[11:21] <larson9999> :)
[11:22] <hammer> its stupid as norm user kate opens
[11:22] <hammer> now as root itr dont
[11:22] <jasin> notech, are you an op?
[11:22] <Sanne> hammer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:22] <sbcl3> i'm having a bit of a problem. K3B can't seem to process a CUE file that has multiple flac files and information about between-track gaps (for burning)
[11:22] <notech> jasin: which has what to do with anything?
[11:22] <jasin> notech, then what place do you have telling me what to do?
[11:23] <triki1> luca: http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/installing-intel-815852855-graphics-controller-drivers-on-ubuntu-debian/
[11:23] <triki1> luca: hope that helps
[11:23] <kakalto> jasin: this is getting nowhere
[11:23] <kakalto> fast.
[11:23] <hammer> root@AMD64:/home/hammer# kate
[11:23] <Sanne> jasin: please don't be so aggressive
[11:23] <hammer> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:23] <hammer> Xlib: No protocol specifie
[11:23] <jasin> notech, I am entitled to my opinions.
[11:23] <notech> jasin: it was a suggestion since you do not even accept the definition you posted here
[11:23] <jasin> Sanne, I am fine :)
[11:23] <chimaera> since when are all those retards around, i wonder? call be elitist prick, but somehow teh channels where nicer when not everyone was using linux.
[11:25] <hammer> well let us not forget that this is the net eh
[11:25] <cloakable> Indeed
[11:25] <chimaera> ahh, good point.
[11:25] <jasin> hammer lol
[11:25] <hammer> :)
[11:26] <jasin> yeah, everyone's something their not.
[11:26] <jasin> thats the net
[11:26] <chimaera> hammer: btw, use kdesu to start up kate, like ein "kdesu kate" as user
[11:26] <triki1> dude channels were werse when not so many people uses linux
[11:26] <hammer> ok ill try that
[11:27] <chimaera> well, i hung around at debian, debian-kde and teh like for years, was alays nice an cozy.
[11:27] <chimaera> excuse the tehs. typos all around
[11:27] <jasin> Sanne, I asked a very simple question about the linux kernel and you all started arguing with me? wtf??
[11:27] <triki1> i always found ppl flaming if you asked a question that they knew
[11:27] <Vladdy> hmm
[11:28] <Sanne> jasin: I didn't argue with you, I just bade you to not be aggressive.
[11:28] <Vladdy> is there a shortcut to send a screen to other screen (in dual screen config?)
[11:28] <jasin> Sanne, katalto and notech did.
[11:29] <max_> anyone use Beryl?
[11:29] <Vladdy> trying to figure that out
[11:29] <Vladdy> because I want to make OO.org impress put presentation on other screen
[11:29] <notech> jasin: i just pointed out that you didn't agree with the definition you posted here, and suggested you take your argument of what's a distro to some place like distrowatch since, by you, they are wrong as well.
[11:29] <Sanne> jasin: maybe you came around a bit too harsh regarding distro or not distro, and I also think it's a bit offtopic, since this is mainly a support channel. #kubuntu-offtopic may be a better place for such discussions.
[11:30] <jasin> notech, I asked a question, thats it.
[11:30] <jasin> Sanne, oh, so asking a question is harsh?
[11:30] <chimaera> also, proving a point when noone wants to hear it s pretty, well, you know.
[11:31] <jasin> Sanne, I doubt you even seen the question
[11:31] <notech> jasin: i'm noot going to argue it since i wasn't here at the beginning, just seen you stating what was and what was not a distro
[11:31] <jasin> Sanne, but whatever, you're all worthless .. you obviously know nothing about linux, my questions was very simple.
[11:31] <fdoving> jasin: stop.
[11:31] <Sanne> jasin: I didn't say that, please try to understand what I said. I really don't want to argue, sorry if I offended you. But you came around as agressive to me.
[11:31] <chimaera> ...
[11:32] <jasin> You people obviously know nothing about linux.
[11:32] <notech> jasin: calling people names isn't too mature. you seem to just want to cause issues here
[11:32] <jasin> Good bye
[11:32] <christiane_> `iwlist eth1 scan` shows me "Quality=100/100  Signal level=-31 dBm" but speed doesn't exeed 1 or 2 Mbit/s. System load is 0.04 only. So any idea where to look?
[11:32] <Vuen> hey guys, how do i configure what my computer does when i press the power button?
[11:33] <notech> the bios, if it has the options
[11:33] <Vuen> no, i mean shutdown, suspend, hibernate
[11:33] <chimaera> boays, no you let the uber-leet knowitall leave. we're doomed i say.
[11:34] <Vuen> right now when i press power, it tries to shutdown and somehow fails
[11:34] <Vuen> i'd like it to suspend instead
[11:35] <notech> Vuen: i don't know, i never bother with those functions
[11:35] <ScottA> Does anyone know how to install a program from a tar.bz2 file?
[11:36] <Vuen> ScottA: is it binary? or source?
[11:36] <max_> anyone use Beryl?
[11:36] <Vuen> max: yep
[11:36] <ScottA> I think its binary but it might be source.
[11:36] <max_> is there anyway to make beryl the windows manager when you start, instead of having to run <beryl-manager>?
[11:36] <Vuen> that's kindof important
[11:36] <ScottA> is there a way I can find out?
[11:36] <ScottA> hold on. I'll check
[11:37] <Vuen> max_: yep. open kate, save a new file as ~/.kde/Autostart, and in it type:
[11:37] <Vuen> #!/bin/bash
[11:37] <Vuen> beryl-manager
[11:37] <Vuen> then chmod 755 the file
[11:37] <ScottA> I'm pretty sure its source actually.
[11:37] <max_> what is chmod
[11:37] <max_> 755
[11:37] <ScottA> The program, or series of programs rather, is KOffice.
[11:37] <Sanne> ScottA: are you sure that app is not in the repositories?
[11:38] <ScottA> how can I find out?
[11:38] <Vuen> max_: nevermind. open up konqueror, type ~/.kde/Autostart into the address bar
[11:38] <Sanne> ScottA: search at packages.ubuntu.com
[11:38] <ScottA> k
[11:38] <Vuen> then right click, choose "Link to Application", then type beryl-manager as the name and the command to run
[11:38] <Sanne> ScottA: (KOffice is most surely installable with apt/adept/synaptic)
[11:38] <hammer> why does the font size go hudge when right clicking and selecting install?
[11:38] <Vuen> ScottA: ah. just install koffice from synaptic
[11:39] <chimaera> hammer: clicking where?
[11:39] <Vuen> or adept
[11:39] <ScottA> its not in adept.
[11:39] <notech> tar jxvf, i believe
[11:40] <twosouls82> have a nice evening ppl
[11:40] <twosouls82> :)
[11:40] <hammer> adept manager
[11:40] <hammer> is it possible to change that to the synitcic one?
[11:40] <max_> Vuen: where is link to application?
[11:41] <chimaera> hammer: well, i also prefer synaptic, so just install and use it instead of adept
[11:41] <Sanne> ScottA: koffice is in main, you can also check with: 'apt-cache search koffice'
[11:41] <hammer> good idea
[11:41] <hammer> :)
[11:41] <marco_> what is mandriva and what are the main differences?
[11:42] <hammer> mandriva is terrible
[11:42] <rance> Does anyone know if there is a freebsd-games package for debian/ubuntu, there are some nifty little packages in there
[11:42] <chimaera> marco_: mandriva is the community spin-off of mandrake linux.
[11:42] <notech> no
[11:42] <marco_> Why is it terrible?
[11:42] <notech> mandrakke changed its name to mandriva when it joined with conectiva
[11:43] <marco_> is it open-source?
[11:43] <hammer> i dunno but i guess i shouldnt say that as im only going by my experience and personal opinions
[11:43] <ScottA> thanx. I feel like an idiot
[11:43] <hammer> so i take that back im sorry
[11:43] <chimaera> ;)
[11:43] <Sanne> ScottA: no need to :) Glad you found it.
[11:43] <notech> marco_: its not, its just different. its an rpm based distro
[11:44] <xenol> !restrictedformats
[11:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:44] <notech> marco_: and yes, open source
[11:44] <marco_> It was just curiosity :) I feel very well with ubuntu
[11:45] <chimaera> stick with it ;). i moved from debian to ubuntu and i'm no quite sure if i stay, but my lazyness heightens probability.
[11:46] <hammer> wow this is gonna take some getting used to
[11:46] <notech> marco_: best to try several distro's and use what best suits you
[11:46] <hammer> switched from mepis6.0 and now have kubuntu 6.10 amd64 version
[11:47] <marco_> Well. I am going to dowload a Live CD and see what I get
[11:47] <hammer> seems nice
[11:48] <hammer> marco live cd of what?
[11:48] <marco_> Mandriva ?
[11:48] <hammer> ahh ok
[11:48] <Zamber_aw> Mandrivia is awful
[11:48] <marco_> Why ?
[11:48] <Zamber_aw> try xubuntu or kubuntu :P
[11:48] <marco_> Visually?
[11:49] <Zamber_aw> no
[11:49] <Zamber_aw> it has a poor community
[11:49] <notech> its not, they are just rambling
[11:49] <Zamber_aw> :P
[11:49] <notech> its just different
[11:49] <chimaera> Zamber_aw:  can you back up such statements? it contains zero information..
[11:49] <Zamber_aw> "just rambling" for the last couple of years xD
[11:50] <ninHer> what does the people use for playing videopodcasts on ipods ?
[11:50] <marco_> I'm using kubuntu. It's excelent. Lets see what mandriva has to offer
[11:50] <hammer> if it has zerro information well that explains itself lol
[11:50] <kakalto> it does give off a bit of a FUDding vibe, yeh
[11:50] <kakalto> heheh
[11:50] <rance> does anyone know of a way to print banners on continuous feed dot-matrix printers?  The program "banner" on freebsd does this, but I dont see a ubuntu equivalent
[11:50] <Zamber_aw> marco_ if you take it that way - don't mind ;)
[11:51] <chimaera> rance: afaik thde kde-printing system should be able to do this.
[11:51] <marco_> Well, off course I wont erase kubuntu. It will run only on cd :) Live
[11:51] <notech> marco_: good idea, as i said its best to try several asnd use what suits you, not what suits someone elsew
[11:51] <notech> else
[11:51] <hammer> im only kidding when i bash mandriva...i cant tell u anything fact wise and well im not 1 to bash anyone for anything anyways its all a matter of different strokes for different folks
[11:52] <dm> Does anyone know an irc channel where I could ask about my slow wifi connection?
[11:52] <rance> a very old version of mandrake was my first linux distro
[11:53] <rance> with ubuntu I've finally been able to make a commitment. it comes closest to doing everything I want right out of the box, and the rest I can figure out
[11:53] <ryanakca> dm: here? or in #ubuntu?
[11:53] <hammer> libdvdcss2 or what ever isnt listed in packages
[11:53] <hammer> thats not good i need that desperately
[11:53] <Vladdy> rance: same here, but with kubuntu ;p
[11:54] <Vladdy> i deleted windows shortly after on my other pc, first time i did that (on purpose..)
[11:54] <rance> Vladdy: my devel desktop is kubuntu, and my home router is ubuntu LTS server
[11:54] <marco_> well... it's good to explore :) But it's important to repeat, I'm really happy with kubuntu. It's going to be hard to change my ideas. But , just to explore, lets see what mandriva is
[11:55] <dm> ryanakca:  The speed over my wifi eth1 is about 120 kbit/s. Status on my WRT says 1Mbit/s nominal speed. I'm sitting 2 ft. away from the AP. When I switch to another OS it works with 54 Mbit (throughput 30 Mbit). What's wrong here?
[11:55] <rance> I havent used mandriva since they changed from mandrake
[11:55] <Vladdy> rance: for my old server I used hardened lfs ;-)
[11:55] <rance> I remember lfs
[11:55] <ryanakca> dm: I have no clue about wireless, sorry... but many people in here do :)
[11:56] <ryanakca> rance: lfs is still popular... linux from scratch...
[11:56] <hammer> uh oh
[11:56] <Vladdy> err
[11:56] <rance> Yea I know, I was just remembering my last install at it
[11:56] <Vladdy> lfs is near dead, clfs is still alive though :D
[11:56] <CoffeeShock> dm: what does iwconfig eth1 tell you?
[11:57] <dm> The driver is bcm43xx on a Broadcom 4311 card, firmware is installed via bcm43xx-fwcutter. `iwlist scan` shows "quality 100/100 -31 dbm". Why is it that slow?
[11:57] <hammer> how can i get libdvdcss and libdvdcss2?
[11:57] <rance> I learned alot from my lfs install
[11:57] <Vladdy> seperated fork from lfs, clfs is cross compiled lfs, which means host and target doesn't have to be the same :O
[11:57] <hammer> apt-get command failed :/
[11:57] <kakalto> hammer: did you follow the RestrictedFormats guide?
[11:57] <Vladdy> !mp3 > hammer
[11:57] <marco_> Should I use ati official driver or stick with the one that came with kubuntu (6.10)?
[11:57] <rance> well, im off
[11:58] <kakalto> marco_: depends on what ati card you have
[11:58] <luca> triki: thanks, I had to relocate but got your message!
[11:58] <marco_> ati radeon 9550
[11:58] <CoffeeShock> dm: hmm I had the bcm43xx driver running too, but for my config it was quite sloppy too ... Might have been the card though. what happens if you do a "sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 11"?
[11:58] <dm> CoffeeShock: I'm on ethernet again, now. I'll switch back and brb ...
[11:59] <CoffeeShock> okay
[11:59] <ryanakca> marco_: the opensource 'ati' driver tends to work better than the 'fglrx' one...
[11:59] <BluesKaj> kill cmds ?
[12:00] <marco_> How can I know 3d acceleration is active?
[12:00] <Vladdy> so true O_O
[12:00] <Vladdy> fglrx sucks badly..
[12:00] <hammer> im a little confused i uncommented everything infront of all the deb listed
[12:00] <judgen> Vladdy: why? its getting better for every release
[12:00] <BluesKaj> direct rendering - yes ...means you have 3d accel
[12:00] <kakalto> !ati > marco_
[12:01] <marco_> tanks
[12:01] <judgen> how come fonts in kubuntu looks soo bad when running gtk apps?
[12:02] <Vladdy> it still took 5 months to get my video card working after it was released... while the specs had already been ready for a year
[12:02] <CoffeeShock> judgen: its because you shouldnt be using gtk apps with kubuntu ;)
[12:02] <kakalto> hammer: did you apt-get update?
[12:03] <judgen> CoffeeShock: lol some apps dont have an qt frontend
[12:03] <kakalto> hammer: sudo apt-get update, I mean
[12:03] <Vladdy> not only that, there are perfectly good 2d open source drivers for my card, however ati won't give the ok, so they cannot be downloaded by anyone :S
[12:03] <hammer> ill try that
[12:03] <CoffeeShock> judgen: yea I know, just kidding. Fonts is my nemesis though cant help you much there
[12:03] <hammer> i did apt-get
[12:03] <judgen> Vladdy: AMD bought ATI and tehy are alot more friendly towards oss
[12:04] <hammer> mabe i missed something ill try again
[12:04] <Vladdy> we'll see, so far I still don't have source code for drivers for my ati card :O
[12:04] <Sanne> hammer: you can try to set the option that non-kde apps should use kde fonts and themes.
[12:04] <judgen> no card maker provides full source
[12:04] <hammer> apperently i did it right
[12:04] <hammer> how ya do that
[12:05] <kakalto> hammer: you're after dvd support, aren't ya?
[12:05] <Vladdy> quite nice theme
[12:05] <hammer> yup
[12:05] <kakalto> or did I get messed up?
[12:05] <judgen> intel and S3 is close though only the DRM parts arent opensourced yet
[12:05] <kakalto> ah good
[12:05] <Vladdy> intel opened everything for their new card iirc
[12:05] <hammer> i need libdvdcss and libdvdcss2
[12:05] <b0nn> Hi all, Iveen bashing away at trying to get a working driver for my webcam.. on linux.. I have got to the point where I have essentially taken usb-skeleton.c and s/skel/ezcam, Now I am stuck, the sekeleton driver cycles through the interfaces looking for bulk in/out endpoints, but usbview tells me my device only has ISO IN endpoints
[12:05] <judgen> Vladdy: they did not open it all, the DRM stuff is still closed just as the S3 cards
[12:06] <Vladdy> O_O
[12:06] <hammer> isnt there extra things to add to sources list there was when i ran mepis
[12:06] <Vladdy> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[12:06] <Vladdy> seems to be a drm kernel module there
[12:06] <CoffeeShock> dm: are you done with the testing yet?
[12:06] <Vladdy> and the 3d gl driver..
[12:06] <kakalto> hammer: when you say the apt-get command failed, what is the error?
[12:06] <Vladdy> hammer: did you run sudo apt-get update?
[12:06] <kakalto> hammer: the sources.list needs to have multiverse
[12:06] <hammer> refers to another pacjkage or something
[12:07] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: I'm actually tryin' to get my nickname back ;-)
[12:07] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: But yes, I tested.
[12:07] <soulrider> fdoving: you here? =/
[12:07] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: rate is shown as 11 Mbit
[12:07] <kakalto> hammer: pastebin your sources.list ?
[12:07] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: okay ... but is there an actual change too?
[12:07] <Vladdy> going to bed though, night
[12:07] <flaccid> !vpnc
[12:07] <ubotu> vpnc: Cisco-compatible VPN client. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3+SVN20051028-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 52 kB, installed size 220 kB
[12:08] <flaccid> hmm
[12:08] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: Speed is 120 kbit.
[12:08] <hammer> ok heres my sources list
[12:08] <hammer> http://pastebin.ca/274762
[12:08] <kakalto> !pastebin > hammer
[12:09] <kakalto> woops =)
[12:09] <hammer> i get the feeling im not doing something right
[12:09] <hammer> its all good lol
[12:09] <christiane_> kakalto: ;-)
[12:09] <hammer> its sunday thats my excuse hehe
[12:09] <Vladdy> hammer: have yo uever run "sudo apt-get update?  :P
[12:09] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: aww thats weird then, maybe a "dmesg | grep bcm43xx" will give a hint what happenend at the moment of changing the rate
[12:09] <kakalto> hammer: on lines 16 and 17, you need to add 'multiverse' on the end
[12:09] <hammer> ya i did that
[12:10] <kakalto> hammer: lines 16 and 17 show no multiverse
[12:10] <hammer> ok
[12:10] <kakalto> cool.
[12:10] <hammer> how do i make it right just type multiverse there?
[12:10] <kakalto> yup
[12:10] <hammer> ok
[12:10] <luca> triki: everything seems to function, thanks a lot!
[12:10] <kakalto> space after universe and put multiverse
[12:10] <triki1> awesome !
[12:10] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: Sorry, I forgot to mention: Trying to change the rate results in an error msg: "SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument."
[12:11] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: hmm or was it rate 11M .... ill check ;)
[12:11] <luca> uh sorry - have to keep my mouse in check :$
[12:11] <kakalto> hammer: then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2"
[12:11] <Rob-West> can anyone mail me a free Kubuntu CD
[12:12] <triki> lol
[12:12] <Vladdy> lol
[12:12] <soulrider> Rob-West: shipit.kubuntu.org
[12:12] <ninHer> what does the people use for playing videopodcasts on ipods ?
[12:12] <kakalto> Rob-West: dapper, sure ;-)
[12:12] <Vladdy> !shipit
[12:12] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[12:12] <soulrider> does anyone know how i can identify  a partition ?
[12:12] <Rob-West> i want Edgy
[12:12] <soulrider> not with /dev/sdxx
[12:12] <Vladdy> just burn it O_O
[12:12] <triki> soulrider: fdisk -l
[12:12] <kakalto> Rob-West: limited bandwidth, I guess?
[12:12] <Rob-West> im having shit luck trying to download it
[12:13] <Vladdy> you could try torrents
[12:13] <triki> Rob-West: use torrent
[12:13] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: Okay *acutally* the command goes like iwconfig eth1 rate 11M ...
[12:13] <hammer> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[12:13] <hammer> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[12:13] <soulrider> triki: im using hte live CD right now
[12:13] <hammer> those right?
[12:13] <Rob-West> ill torrent the DVD then
[12:13] <kakalto> hammer: yup.
[12:13] <soulrider> how can i make it show the partitions on a specified disc ?
[12:13] <kakalto> hammer now "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2"
[12:13] <triki> soulrider: fdisk -l will still work
[12:14] <triki> from live cd you can access your hardware
[12:14] <Vladdy> yep :O