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[12:13] <Jozo-> LaserJock: ?
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[12:15] <LaserJock> Jozo-: you did some triaging on some bugs
[12:15] <LaserJock> on #75021 and #74906 you didn't need to put bug watches
[12:19] <LaserJock> Jozo-: does that make sense?
[12:20] <Jozo-> LaserJock: ... I think it's nice way to inform others... I leave them open so you can close them (You've seem assinged to yourself them...)
[12:20] <LaserJock> Jozo-: but you put bug watches on already closed bugs
[12:20] <LaserJock> there is nothing to watch
[12:21] <Jozo-> LaserJock: Should I just write "There is same bug in Debian, bug number xxxx"?
[12:22] <beerockxs> what should I do to get attention of a package's maintainer for a bug that has a fix posted in a comment?
[12:22] <LaserJock> yeah, in those cases that would have been better
[12:22] <LaserJock> beerockxs: the Debian maintainer?
[12:22] <Jozo-> LaserJock: assign watch is just couple of clicks and It's nice reference to debian bug...
[12:23] <LaserJock> but it's meant to notify us of changes in a bug
[12:23] <LaserJock> those bugs will never change as they are already closed
[12:23] <LaserJock> so they will show up in bug lists
[12:23] <beerockxs> LaserJock: uh, I suppose I would want the Ubuntu maintainer, don't I?
[12:23] <LaserJock> beerockxs: well, we don't really have dedicated maintainers in Ubuntu
[12:24] <beerockxs> LaserJock: I see. Hmm, and it looks like the maintainer from debian does not even use Launchpad.
[12:24] <LaserJock> beerockxs: is the package in Universe?
[12:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75170 in ubiquity (main) "Dapper installer keeps crashing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75170
[12:24] <beerockxs> LaserJock: nope, gtk+1.2
[12:24] <LaserJock> !info gtk+1.2
[12:24] <ubotu> Package gtk1.2 does not exist in any distro I know
[12:25] <LaserJock> bah
[12:25] <beerockxs> !info libgtk1.2
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75171 in gftp (main) "crach when negociate a transfert" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75171
[12:25] <ubotu> libgtk1.2: The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-18 (edgy), package size 817 kB, installed size 1772 kB
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[12:25] <LaserJock> beerockxs: I think people are probably aware of it then
[12:25] <Jozo-> LaserJock: And it's nice to catch bugs that was fixed in debian, but forgot close in ubuntu....
[12:26] <beerockxs> LaserJock: Well yes, people know about the ugly default font :)
[12:26] <LaserJock> Jozo-: well, I didn't want them closed but I know what you mean
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[12:28] <LaserJock> beerockxs: well, the maintainers will see the email with the fix so it's probably just a matter of them getting to it
[12:28] <beerockxs> LaserJock: they will even if they don't use Launchpad? Ok, cool then.
[12:29] <LaserJock> no, the Ubuntu maintainers will see it
[12:29] <LaserJock> if it needs to go to Debian they'll forward it on
[12:31] <Jozo-> for example bug 70495 can be now closed....
[12:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70495 in rpy "python-rpy doesn't follow debian python policy" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70495
[12:32] <LaserJock> Jozo-: yes, unless it also affects Edgy and needs a SRU
[12:33] <LaserJock> and in that case we should open up an edgy task
[12:33] <Jozo-> LaserJock: I don't want write SRU requests... someone else can do this.
[12:34] <Jozo-> LaserJock: Should I just open task for edgy?
[12:34] <LaserJock> sure, I'm not saying that you have to
[12:35] <LaserJock> not unless the problem exists in edgy and we are going to backport it
[12:35] <LaserJock> my only concern with closing bugs in feisty is once we close them they don't show up on bug lists
[12:39] <LaserJock> Jozo-: in my opinion we might want to do an SRU on that one as well
[12:46] <Jozo-> LaserJock: I've to go sleep, but tomorrow I will open some edgy tasks to bugs witch are already fixed in Feisty. (mainly in universe... broken depenencies, bashisms and broken init-scripts)
[12:47] <LaserJock> Jozo-: hmm, I'm not sure if that is the right thing to do either
[12:47] <LaserJock> sfllaw might know better then I
[12:48] <LaserJock> I would say if they are pretty critical problems that should get fixed open the edgy task
[12:51] <Jozo-> LP should show recently closed bugs... just as Debian's BTS do.
[12:52] <Jozo-> by default
[12:52] <LaserJock> something
[12:52] <LaserJock> I just don't want bugs to get lost because they are fixed in Feisty
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[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75172 in rapidsvn (universe) "rapidsvn uses wrong icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75172
[01:00] <Jozo-> bug 65245 and bug 69595 ... don't know if those are "critical". Backporting would be enough..
[01:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65245 in spfmilter "Startup doesn't work, if /var/run is on tmpfs" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65245
[01:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69595 in spampd "/etc/init.d/spampd fails when sh is dash - makes package uninstallable" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69595
[01:08] <sfllaw> Jozo-: Laser_away is right.
[01:13] <Jozo-> sfllaw: ... for opening edgy task for them?
[01:17] <sfllaw> Yeah.  You can do it if it's high or critical importance.
[01:17] <sfllaw> It's not worth it for anything less than that.
[01:17] <sfllaw> Broken dependencies, bashisms in #!/bin/sh scripts, and bad init-scripts would count here.
[01:19] <Jozo-> bug 59929
[01:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59929 in graphviz-cairo "Needs dependency on graphviz" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59929
[01:19] <sfllaw> So I'm not sure how universe updates are going to proceed.
[01:20] <sfllaw> I suspect dholbach or Hobbsee knows more.
[01:20] <Jozo-> and there many many more... I can't count of them all...
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75174 in acpi (main) "runaway kacpi_notify" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75174
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[01:22] <Jozo-> Is there clear guidelines what to do and when... I
[01:23] <Jozo-> 've not found them yet. :/
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[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71793 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes while closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71793
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75175 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "flashplugin-nonfree does not install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75175
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[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75177 in vbetool (main) "eMachines m6805: vbetool fails to restore from hibernate in edgy (ok in dapper)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75177
[02:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75178 in thunar (main) "crash with large gif file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75178
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[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75179 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "AoE module doesn't work at all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75179
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75180 in vmware-player (multiverse) "Incorrect reference to /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75180
[02:37] <LaserJock> sfllaw: still around?
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[02:38] <crimsun> (on saturday night? surely he has a life unlike this mere mortal.)
[02:38] <LaserJock> he was around an hour ago
[02:40] <crimsun> right, so he has a life.
[02:41] <somerville32> lol
[02:41] <somerville32> You're pretty adamant about that, eh crimsun?
[02:42] <crimsun> (what about?)
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[02:47] <somerville32> The whole "people have a life".
[02:48] <somerville32> Sometimes I wonder if you're just trying to convince us you have a life ;] 
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[02:51] <crimsun> I sit in #ubuntu-bugs. Do you -think- I have a life? :)
[02:51] <DarkMageZ> don't forget that it's not saturday night everywhere in the world :P
[02:52] <crimsun> it is in his timezone.
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[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75182 in gtkpod (universe) "merge: new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75182
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75183 in gnome-pilot (main) "gnome-pilot windows open repeatedly for loose palm connection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75183
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[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75184 in gnome-pilot (main) "device selection is not user friendly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75184
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[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75185 in Ubuntu "Invalid CD Name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75185
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75186 in linux-source-2.6.10 (main) "error with the Synapic updater Edgy eft 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75186
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[03:47] <Admiral_Chicago> crimsun, ping
[03:48] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: contentless pong.
[03:48] <Admiral_Chicago> busy?
[03:49] <crimsun> yes
[03:49] <crimsun> in the future, please ping -with- a description of the issue
[03:49] <Admiral_Chicago> crimsun, will remember, just a quick update, you helped me unmute my alsa even though alsa mixer told me it wasn't muted
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> well the command you gave me I have to run when i reboot.
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[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75187 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed on closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75187
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[03:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not trying to fix it, i have the command so it's not a big deal, just letting you know this happens on my system.
[03:54] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: I have no recollection of this issue.
[03:54] <crimsun> (which is what happens when I triage dozens of sound issues daily)
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> i figured that might happen, well i appreciated the help regardless, good luck with your work
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[04:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75188 in grip (universe) "grip should depend on yelp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75188
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75189 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "lowlatency not using full preempt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75189
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[04:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73449 in vlc (universe) "VLC crashed when trying to encode to Theora and FLAC" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73449
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[05:20] <Ubugtu> WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas.
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75193 in cthugha (multiverse) "[Sync Request]  cthugha 1.4-5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75193
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[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75194 in exult (multiverse) "[Sync Request]  exult 1.2-11" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75194
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[06:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75195 in firefox (main) "I pressed refresh and firefox crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75195
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[08:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69277 in kmplayer (main) "/var/crash/_usr_bin_kxineplayer.1000.crash" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69277
[08:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75196 in python-defaults (main) "crash is linked to deluge-torrent (i think)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75196
[08:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75197 in openoffice.org (main) "Open Office 2.0.4 in Edgy can crash on labels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75197
[08:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75198 in evolution (main) ".tiff attachments hang evolution (edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75198
[08:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75199 in ubiquity (main) "installation crash during kubuntu install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75199
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[09:08] <Phoenix7477> How do you respond to a bug where the user is just confused, and its not a bug or anything else?
[09:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75200 in vlc (universe) "Press Play, then Stop, on avi full-length movie" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75200
[09:11] <Hobbsee> Phoenix7477: reject the bug, and give teh user an explanation>
[09:11] <Phoenix7477> k, thanks
[09:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69481 in firefox (main) "firefox cerro despues de instalar java y abri pag web www.cantv.net/videochat" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69481
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75201 in totem (main) "Bad cache managing in video playing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75201
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75202 in nautilus (main) ""Tree" view causes SFTP links to fail" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75202
[09:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73432 in firefox (main) "Browser crashed on closing" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73432
[09:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73439 in firefox (main) "Firefox 2.0 crashed during high memory/cpu usage" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73439
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72075 in firefox (main) "Crash when reloading a page and opening a file at the same time" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72075
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71730 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed on startup" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71730
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[10:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75203 in galternatives (universe) "Sync request: galternatives 0.13.4 from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75203
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[10:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75204 in ghextris (universe) "Sync request: ghextris 0.9.0-1.2 from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75204
[10:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75205 in felix (universe) "Sync request: felix 1.1.2-1 from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75205
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[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75206 in liferea (main) "liferea on edgy crashes when shutting down pc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75206
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[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75207 in control-center (main) "Audio crashes when selecting options from the options-list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75207
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[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75208 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 (restricted) "build error fglrx-kernel-sources on Feisty linux-headers-2.6.19-7-generic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75208
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75209 in gnome-panel (main) "Workspace switcher generates gtk_widget_size_allocate() warning" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75209
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75210 in firefox (main) "Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75210
[11:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75211 in Ubuntu "Wireless WEP keys in ASCII don't always work, where HEX does. Ubuntu connects to another unencrypted network" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75211
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[11:58] <DarkMageZ> the apport-retrace tool, if i call it without -d then it works fine (tho not as detailed as i would wish). if i call it with -d then i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36227/ , any ideas?
[11:59] <Hobbsee> DarkMageZ: what's the -d do?
[11:59] <DarkMageZ> it apparantly is supposed to pull debugging packages to get a superior trace :)
[12:00] <crimsun> it will if you have the appropriate deb entry in sources.list with apt's cache current.
[12:00] <DarkMageZ> is there a special repo for these debugging packages?
[12:01] <crimsun> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-September/000195.html
[12:03] <DarkMageZ> oh, that's cool.
[12:04] <crimsun> (I've often wondered why "power users" don't follow u-d-a at the very least)
[12:04] <Hobbsee> hee
[12:04] <Hobbsee> *heh
[12:04] <Hobbsee> guess they dont think of it
[12:04] <Hobbsee> mind you, it would be nice if it crashed a little more obviously
[12:05] <crimsun> really? I can make yelp crash very consistently in 7.04 ;)
[12:05] <Hobbsee> haha
[12:05] <crimsun> yep, just start it ;)
[12:05] <Hobbsee> yes, but that's a gnome program.  that's to be expected
[12:05] <crimsun> oh don't worry, I can do it with amarok, too. :)
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[12:05] <Hobbsee> haha
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75213 in revelation (universe) "FTP icon seems to be missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75213
[12:06] <DarkMageZ> i can do it with rhythmbox, solong as i hack it up with experimental patches from their bugzilla =S
[12:06] <DarkMageZ> =D *
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[12:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75212 in apticron (universe) "apticron: 6: let: not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75212
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[12:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75216 in Ubuntu "Volume control when more than one audio device is present." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75216
[12:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75214 in Ubuntu "Screen occasionally offset to the left" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75214
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[12:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75217 in gnome-panel (main) "Don't load Gnome-Panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75217
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75218 in ppp (main) "ppp does not put nameservers into /etc/resolv.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75218
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[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #74605 in Ubuntu "Unable to update Dapper -> Edgy via Install CD (Feature Request)" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74605
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75219 in anagramarama (universe) "Potential segmentation fault, memory leak and cleanup of debug code" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75219
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75221 in anagramarama (universe) "Improve user interface experience..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75221
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75220 in boa-constructor (universe) "Please sync boa-constructor (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75220
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[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75223 in ubiquity (main) "grub_install to sda (4GB micro-drive)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75223
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #74547 in java-package (multiverse) "Please add support for Java 6 and Java 7" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74547
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #74574 in Ubuntu "Quicken 2000 did not install under Crossover from CodeWeavers" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74574
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[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75224 in beryl-core "Beryl says it c aught deadly signal 11" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75224
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75225 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash while trying to open a Flash video in www.eluniversal.com.mx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75225
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75226 in libbonobomm1.3 (universe) "Please sync libbonobomm1.3 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75226
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[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75227 in Ubuntu "Jaggy mouse movement when using a usb hub" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75227
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[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75228 in anjuta (universe) "crash when editing general preferences" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75228
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75229 in Ubuntu "Please sync Mailody 0.2.0-1 from debian experimental" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75229
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75230 in gdm (main) "gdmsetup is not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75230
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[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75231 in gnome-network (universe) "swap in sda2 does not activate automatically and loopback does not start atuomatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75231
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75232 in apport (main) "KeyError with -d" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75232
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75233 in edubuntu-artwork (main) "Firefox startsite title is wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75233
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75234 in cmake (main) "sync from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75234
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[02:48] <bddebian> Boo
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75236 in network-manager (main) "nm-applet wants root privileges" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75236
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[02:52] <iKs> Anyone here ? ^^
[02:53] <iKs> I've been asking my question in #launchpad but noone seems to be responding...
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[02:54] <Hobbsee> iKs: it's a sunday in most countries.
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[02:54] <iKs> In France too ^^
[02:54] <iKs> oh wait
[02:54] <iKs> What time is it in the Us ? xD
[02:55] <bddebian> 9am on the East coast, 6 on the West
[02:55] <iKs> right..
[02:55] <iKs> 2pm here
[02:55] <iKs> Well here is my first question anyway :
[02:56] <iKs>  If I have to report a bug in Ubuntu about a package, do I have to report it in "package" or in "ubuntu" ?
[02:56] <iKs> (in launchpad)
[02:56] <iKs> Here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/bugs/+package
[02:56] <iKs> or there : https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[02:56] <iKs> ?
[02:56] <iKs> And what about Feisty ? I dont see any bug in the Feisty part of launchpad :s
[02:56] <iKs> Here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+bugs
[02:57] <iKs>  How come ? :o
[02:57] <Hobbsee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug and add the package
[02:57] <Hobbsee> because it doesnt split by releases
[02:58] <Hobbsee> iKs: use https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/<packagename>/+bug/ so you can see if it's already reported
[02:59] <iKs> OK, so I have to report it in the Ubuntu pat of the Website..
[02:59] <iKs> But Hobbsee you say that it doesnt split by release, but there are a lot of new software on Feisty
[02:59] <iKs> that were'nt there on Edgy
[02:59] <iKs> or event on Dapper
[03:00] <iKs> is'nt it illogical not to split bugs ?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> no
[03:00] <Hobbsee> it just assumes that you're talking about hte latest versoin
[03:00] <iKs> Hum.
[03:01] <iKs> But the last version of GAIM for example is 2.0.0beta2 on Edgy
[03:01] <iKs> but is 2.0.0beta5 on Feisty !
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[03:02] <iKs> What happens if 2 users report bugs in the same part of the website about 2 different bugs (on old and that got fixed in beta5 and an new one that appeapred in bet5)
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[03:04] <Hobbsee> the feisty one is the one that counts, as that's in development
[03:04] <Hobbsee> then the old one that no longer applies to the latest version in feisty is closed, and the other one kept open
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75237 in network-manager (main) "fails to connect in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75237
[03:10] <iKs> OK I understand
[03:11] <iKs> So the version taht counts is Feisty and if it's fixed in it it's illogical to keep it open..
[03:11] <iKs> Logical :)
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[03:12] <Hobbsee> yes
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[03:17] <iKs> OK thx a lot ;)
[03:17] <iKs> I'll try to report as many bugs as I can (after checking it's not reported already B-))
[03:25] <Hobbsee> :)
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[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75238 in hardinfo (universe) "Crashed when checking storage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75238
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75239 in alsa-driver (main) "Default sound card switches every boot." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75239
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[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75240 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Missing "ubuntu" named icon in hicolor icon theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75240
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[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75242 in gnome-games (main) "Sudoku fails to start with missing footprints.png error" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75242
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75243 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "sky2 driver fails to load on amd64 kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75243
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75241 in xearth (multiverse) "[edgy ] xearth has bad dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75241
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[04:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75244 in gnome-panel (main) "[Feisty]  [usability related]   adding eject button next to removable media in the places menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75244
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75245 in httrack (universe) "crash with multithread " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75245
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75246 in dhcp (main) "Wrong route information" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75246
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75247 in python-defaults (main) "Python crash during running the std. Updatesession from WEB, I don't know why" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75247
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75248 in gnome-games (main) "gnome-sudoku won't launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75248
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75249 in ttf-dejavu (main) "Arrow glyphs don't show up in some situations." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75249
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[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72074 in firefox (main) "Crash sometimes when i clear private data" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72074
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75251 in avahi (main) "Avahi can't find any outside services" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75251
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75252 in gdm (main) "gdmsetup window doesn't come up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75252
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75253 in texinfo (main) "doc should be moved into main" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75253
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75254 in gdm (main) "XDMCP not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75254
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[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75255 in display-dhammapada (universe) "Wrong locations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75255
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[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72018 in firefox (main) "crash gtk_style_realize Segfault when clicking back after failing to watch a video" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72018
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[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75256 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar crashes on startup." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75256
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75257 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "System hangs on X restart/logout on i945+amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75257
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[07:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75259 in dhcp (main) "dhcp does not change ntp.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75259
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[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75260 in Ubuntu "rtl8185 Wi-Fi active = freezy system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75260
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75261 in firefox (main) "Firefox Crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75261
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75262 in libwnck (main) "[Feisty]  Bad depends" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75262
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[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75263 in Ubuntu "Fn + Arrow Key Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75263
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[07:49] <somerville32> vil: Is bug one a duplicate of bug two and the issue is that bug one is filed under the wrong package?
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[07:50] <vil> somerville32: let me recall it here
[07:51] <vil> the first bug # 68623
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> somerville32, Bug #1 ?
[07:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> ah no
[07:51] <vil> the first bug #68623
[07:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68623 in eclipse-pydev "pydev dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68623
[07:51] <vil> second bug #72211
[07:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72211 in eclipse "Eclipse in Edgy, dependency problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72211
[07:51] <vil> the second one somewhat extends the first one
[07:52] <vil> my question is if i should mark the first one as duplicate or just reject it
[07:53] <vil> or anything else
[07:53] <vil> ahoj jendo :)
[07:54] <somerville32> Is the first bug filed under the correct package?
[07:55] <vil> the first one is filed under a wrong package
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[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75264 in gnome-panel (main) "Ubuntu's dialog logout doesn't respect lockdown for the lock screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75264
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75265 in gnome-panel (main) "Add a way to remove the "switch user" button in Ubuntu's dialog logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75265
[07:55] <somerville32> Ok, so what you need to do is change the package for the first bug to the correct package.
[07:56] <somerville32> Do you know how?
[07:59] <somerville32> vil; If you don't know how, I can show you how (or do it for you)
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[07:59] <vil> lets say that i want to take a lesson so please tell me how and i will do it myself
[08:00] <somerville32> Do you have a launchpad.net account?
[08:00] <vil> yes
[08:01] <somerville32> Ok, login and visit the bug bug report.
[08:01] <somerville32> Click on the package name, it'll expand
[08:01] <somerville32> Under "Package", click choose and a small popup will pop up
[08:01] <somerville32> Find the correct package and apply
[08:02] <somerville32> Then click save changes
[08:02] <somerville32> *bug report
[08:02] <vil> somerville32: great thanks
[08:03] <vil> it worked
[08:03] <somerville32> Now, is the bug report a duplicate of bug report two?
[08:04] <vil> yes it is
[08:04] <vil> so shouldn't i create the second one?
[08:04] <somerville32> What do you mean by create the second one?
[08:05] <vil> now i guess that the step i just did was enaugh
[08:05] <vil> above i mention two bugs
[08:06] <vil> so the second
[08:06] <vil> someone filed the first one and a while after that i filed the second one under eclipse
[08:06] <somerville32> Is your bug report better (ie. more informative)?
[08:06] <vil> now i guess that i should just move the first one to eclipse
[08:07] <somerville32> Right
[08:07] <somerville32> But we can't delete the second one
[08:07] <vil> yes, the second one marks more symptoms
[08:07] <somerville32> Ok, mark the first bug as a duplicate of the second bug
[08:10] <vil> done
[08:10] <somerville32> Awesome. :] 
[08:11] <vil> thanks
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[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75266 in banshee (universe) "Banshee hangs/crashes on podcast downloads" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75266
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[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75267 in Ubuntu "Vaio S4XP/B Laptop Sound hotkeys don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75267
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75268 in Ubuntu "Text on boot only on small part of screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75268
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[08:49] <ryanakca> when filing a bug report on launchpad, should I put all the (5-6) backtraces into a tarball, or upload them individually?
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[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ryanakca, individially
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> err with proper spelling
[08:55] <ryanakca> lol, kk...
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[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75269 in gnusound (universe) "Crash when record from ALSA" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75269
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75270 in sound-juicer (main) "Skips a Few Seconds of Tracks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75270
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[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75271 in kdemultimedia (main) "edgy kmid "Could not open /dev/sequencer"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75271
[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75272 in Ubuntu "Vaio S4XP/B Laptop Freezes on Shutdown and Reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75272
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[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68958 in kdeutils (main) "klaptopdaemon crash under 6.10" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68958
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[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75274 in cohoba (universe) "Panel icons are not transparent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75274
[09:17] <ryanakca> Admiral_Chicago: finished, like so? (I hope I have proper spelling :D ) bug 75273
[09:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75273 in apt "Apt constantly sigsevs on edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75273
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> ryanakca, let me look it up
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> looks good i think
[09:20] <ryanakca> Admiral_Chicago: kk, ty
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[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75273 in apt (main) "Apt constantly sigsevs on edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75273
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75275 in gaim (main) "Crash with close gaim+beta5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75275
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75276 in xchat (universe) "xchat opening mozilla instead of preferred browser" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75276
[09:26] <coNP> I tried to reproduce #75276, and found that xchat opens http links with galeon for me
[09:27] <coNP> this makes me think that this might not be a bug, but a feature
[09:27] <coNP> since xchat is not a gnome application
[09:27] <coNP> what do you think about it?
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75277 in gnomebaker (universe) "socces sound mutes vlc and totem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75277
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[09:52] <ryanakca> coNP: xchat opened galeon for me as well...
[09:52] <coNP> ryanakca: okay, I would set therefore the bug "confirmed
[09:52] <ryanakca> coNP: If I remember correctly, you can right click the systray icon and set it in there (for xchat-gnome)
[09:52] <ryanakca> coNP: back when I was using it (last month)
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[09:53] <coNP> however, I am almost sure that this is not a bug, but a feature
[09:53] <ryanakca> coNP: yep, I'm agreeing with you... d'you see a systray icon?
[09:53] <coNP> ryanakca: yes, am I not flooding the channel?
[09:54] <coNP> I set it now to firefox
[09:54] <ryanakca> coNP: kk, how are you flooding the channel?
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75279 in xulrunner (universe) "Installing libnspr4-dev removes many packages related to firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75279
[09:55] <coNP> ryanakca: I hope I am not, xchat systrey dumped all config settings to here
[09:55] <ryanakca> coNP: it open firefox now instead of galean or mozilla now?
[09:56] <coNP> ryanakca: I was not sure if it was only written to me or to everyone on the cchannel
[09:56] <ryanakca> coNP: nope.... just you :)
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[09:59] <ryanakca> wb..
[09:59] <ryanakca> fixed?
[10:01] <coNP> ryanakca: according to http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q221 sensible-browser is used instead of the default gnome browser
[10:02] <coNP> and this is working
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[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75281 in firefox (main) "next windows was blank and suddenly firefox closed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75281
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75282 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "Lots of "tulip_stop_rxtx() failed" when using NFS share on that machine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75282
[10:05] <ryanakca> kk
[10:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75280 in xserver-xgl (universe) "gtk/icon themes ignored when using xgl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75280
[10:08] <coNP> ryanakca: thanks, anyway
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75283 in jabberd2 (universe) "mysql autoconnect is set off in mysql versions >= 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75283
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[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75284 in ubiquity (main) "Trying to install kubuntu 1.06 & 1.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75284
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[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75285 in Ubuntu "Edgy hangs on boot with USB key/mouse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75285
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75286 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Crash on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75286
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[10:57] <andresmujica> hello
[10:57] <andresmujica> how should i report a kernel bug...
[10:57] <andresmujica> http://pastebin.ca/274666
[10:58] <andresmujica> i've got this one with visor module and usbserial (i think so)
[10:58] <andresmujica> and another one with acpi.
[10:58] <andresmujica> but i'm not pretty sure if it's something with the machine
[10:58] <andresmujica> or if its an ubuntu's kernel bug
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[11:05] <andresmujica> well i've found this Bug #40090
[11:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40090 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000094" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/40090
[11:06] <andresmujica> and this one Bug #43686
[11:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 43686 in linux-source-2.6.15 "kpilot stops responding" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/43686
[11:07] <andresmujica> so it's ocurring with jpilot,kpilot and gpilot
[11:07] <andresmujica> seems like something with visor and usbserial module.. ok i'll put some info there
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[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75287 in supertux (universe) "Crashed X server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75287
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75288 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75288
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75289 in Ubuntu "sound problem with mythtv" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75289
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[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75291 in f-spot (main) "crashed during loadingprocess" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75291
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75290 in apt-move (universe) "apt-move doesn't create checksum entries for non debian sections" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75290
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75292 in postgresql (universe) "debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat is locked by another process" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75292