=== pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:18] Ping? [12:19] PONG! === MenZa pongs pschulz01 === jenda pongs MenZa [12:19] hai jenda [12:19] :D [12:19] === jenda is ever vigilant ;) [12:21] MenZa: I have redone the original Ubuntu leaklet in Inkscape.. details http://community.mawsonlakes.org/ubuntu/ [12:21] :O [12:21] I'll send an email to the mailing list, but I though I'd let you guys know forst.. [12:21] first. [12:22] It would be good If it can make it to the diy website. [12:23] I like the first one === pschulz01 just pongs.. it's going to be another hot day in Australia. [12:23] MenZa: They are for printing back to back. [12:23] So I figured [12:23] :-) [12:24] .. but that can be tricky.. I managed to print the inside upside down.. the first time. [12:24] (Does that make any sense?) === somerville32 pings Jenda. [12:33] pong? [12:33] hmm === jenda looks [12:34] pschulz01: you don't happen to have preview pngs? [12:35] jenda: How big? [12:36] jenda: http://www.flickr.com/photos/menza/318127440/ [12:36] big enough for the text to be comfortable readable? [12:36] MenZa: you owe me a coffee. [12:36] Is that a 'preview' though? [12:37] jenda: :D [12:38] pschulz01: I can have a look at it when you link me, so yes, it's a preview. [12:38] It's not a thumbnail. [12:38] with the above, I have to follow the link, follow two more, and then download, open in an external app :) [12:38] jenda: liek d00d [12:38] Firefox can display SVGs [12:38] Why bother? [12:38] :D [12:39] It can? Not really. [12:39] Provided you have the right fonts and stuff [12:40] How's that... png's in directory. === jenda has bad experience with svg's in firefox. [12:40] pschulz01++ :) [12:40] thanks :) [12:41] I like that. [12:41] Be back later... [12:42] pschulz01: I think I might be printing a few hundred of those. [12:57] jenda, pschulz01, will you guys do me a small favour? [12:57] No. [12:57] :o [12:58] http://2006.weblogawards.org/2006/12/best_centrist_blog.php <- vote for Homeland Stupidity ;) [12:58] Just the term has me rofling. [12:58] MenZa: got a link to it? [12:59] http://ioerror.us [01:00] MenZa: in one sentence, why is it the best blog? :) [01:00] It's not. [01:00] ah. [01:00] But I get space food if I get enough votes. [01:00] xD [01:00] Ah, that answers the question ok :) [01:00] XD === jenda has ben sitting around all day waiting for support requests from freenode users... and nothing. [01:07] sigh [01:07] lol === rjian [n=rjian_se@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian good morning people [01:14] hello [01:14] Anyone interested in a few Czech Ubuntu t-shirts? [01:14] No one wants to buy them here :) [01:15] #ubuntu-cz :D? [01:18] seriously, no one does :) === zen-afk [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:44] Burgundavia, Are we going to get UWN24 released tonight? [01:44] yep [01:45] Burgundavia, Also, as you may know, I'm applying for membership. Would you be able to come out and say a few words as a reference at the upcoming cc? [01:46] yep [01:46] Awesome. Thanks :] [01:48] (Do we know anything about Seveas' question of whether they would do memberships? I see no replies to it on the wiki page.) [01:49] no idea [01:49] I have several people from -marketing/-ca up for membership, including you two === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Phoenix7477 [n=matt@d142-179-136-166.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === stryderjzw [n=stryderj@CPE000d88875ef6-CM00e06f16a5cc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === kylevan [n=kyle@d207-6-157-243.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=rjian_se@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === stryderjzw [n=stryderj@CPE000d88875ef6-CM00e06f16a5cc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] [04:24] Give me a sec and I'll link y'all to the sheet I put together. [04:24] kylevan: there currently isn't much "official' [04:24] Canonical is working on case studies and handouts, but we need to work on some as well [04:25] gotcha, just the stuff from the DIYMarketing wiki so far? [04:25] yep [04:25] that is going to become a website soonish === stryderjzw [n=stryderj@CPE000d88875ef6-CM00e06f16a5cc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === dennister [n=cathy@CPE0015f2cca11c-CM0014f8c63340.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:26] dennister: you were talking about a quarter page thingy? [04:26] yes, postcard-eight, too [04:27] weight, i mean [04:27] those are roughly the same size, no? [04:27] yes, although some are 6X9's [04:27] true [04:28] http://yarusso.no-ip.org/files/ubuntu-letter.odt [04:28] better than a whole poster or page that ppl on street won't want to accept [04:28] That's my most recent draft. [04:28] Print both pages front-and-back on the same sheet for folding and including with CDs you hand out or leave places. [04:29] best thing is to start mocking up something in OO.o, inkscape or scribus [04:29] am downloading [04:29] and then start asking for feedback [04:29] Print just Page 2 for placement next to the CD Stand (DIY wiki or mirrored on the same subdirectory on my server). [04:29] tonyyarusso, we're about to cook your server :) [04:29] Madpilot: Sounds like fun! [04:30] 3.1Mb for one odt? Wow. [04:30] It's a 1.70 GHz / 512 MB RAM on a cable connection, so I'm probably okayish. [04:30] Madpilot: Page 1 is a massive image. [04:30] Got that from jenda a while back. [04:30] but back to the point: people on street are more willing to accept a postcard from ur hand cause they feel you're not lecturing them as much [04:30] HanZo's poster or mine? [04:31] Madpilot: I have no idea who it originated with. [04:31] Take a look and see for yourself. [04:31] The text on page 2 is mine though. [04:32] ah, that one. Jenda did that, I remember proofreading it for him [04:32] (With much appreciated feedback in the process of developing it) [04:32] right, lots of text is a bad thing [04:32] nice tonyyarusso [04:32] people's eyes glaze over [04:32] Burgundavia: I believe that was your feedback the first time [04:32] That's why this notecard this is great [04:32] probably [04:32] tonyyarusso, to start with, loose 2/3rds of the text :) [04:32] However, it does serve some purpose. [04:33] text is good, but in order to get them hooked, you need a simple idea [04:33] people are always trying to push newspapers at me on street...i walk by [04:33] Often the people that have ended up needing that page are already intrigued by the CD stand, and are the types willing to spend a few minutes reading. [04:33] something colourful, with few words, is going to catch peoples eye [04:33] cause i know that's the first step, their next step is to ask for $ [04:33] It's not a "hook", it's an explanation. === stryderjzw [n=stryderj@CPE000d88875ef6-CM00e06f16a5cc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] [04:33] When I distrib. CDs, I fold it with the colorful side out, that way if they don't read page 2 it's fine. [04:34] The ones that want more than catchy taglines though, can get it still. [04:35] there is another issue, in that the first page is a graphic [04:35] ok, this is good for cd stands, i want a postcard thingy to distribute on street prior to an installfest [04:35] something ppl will put on their fridge [04:35] the front page of a postcard should be solid coloured, with a few words [04:35] something to grab their eye [04:35] exactly [04:35] back page has 4 or 5 bullet points decribed why Ubuntu rocks [04:36] and our website [04:36] or about the event itself, time, location, etc. === Madpilot fires up Inkscape, then goes to get another beer === tonyyarusso grabs some juice [04:36] or that [04:36] no beer. Hmm, store is still open === somerville32 makes some hot coco [04:36] Madpilot: you need to move to a more sensible place in the city [04:36] Madpilot: check out maple leaf ubuntu flower on ubuntutoronto.org [04:37] needs to make antoher pot of coffee [04:37] dennister: the ubuntu-ca logo? it is Madpilot's design [04:37] dennister, you mean the graphic in the top-left corner? I created that :) [04:37] oh, lordy...wonderful! [04:38] perfect...i didn't know [04:38] i'd been staring at it enuf when i was writing content for our site [04:38] no wonder it reminded me of canadian maple leaf , lol [04:38] glad you like it [04:39] good work :) [04:39] http://www.advogato.org/person/Burgundavia/diary.html?start=82 [04:40] no wonder i got agreement on talking tech less, and human issues more [04:41] i have a lot of technophobes around me [04:41] I sell to them everyday [04:41] yes, ur a computer salesperson [04:41] to public libraries [04:42] i've done that...was also an IT headhunter/recruiter [04:42] who don't really understand tech [04:42] Libraries are awful that way. [04:42] The admins of the one in Thunder Bay hadn't installed USB drivers for Win 98 yet. [04:42] yes, they are...but so is my son and some of the volunteers i work with [04:43] but i got their sigs on the digital-copyright petition [04:43] cool [04:43] :) [04:43] Librarians generally grok copyright issues fairly well [04:43] my mp is jack layton, so I'll try to get him during xmas break [04:44] yes, they do understand the perils of copyright revision...but our corporate counsel didn't [04:44] dennister: I wish my MP was that cool. [04:44] and we're publishers...:( [04:44] he just thought it would never happen [04:44] Jack Layton is so cool :) [04:44] yes, he is [04:45] i hate where i live, but don't want to move out of his riding [04:45] anyway, back to topic [04:46] if i can get some volunteers to man the table at the cute conference, can we get cd's and other marketing material ready in time? [04:46] dennister, what were those dates again? [04:46] Jan 11-13 [04:48] our ubuntu-toronto meeting is this wed, dec. 13th [04:51] what can i do to konversation to get rid of lag, and stay connected? [04:52] try another client? [04:53] it is likely your connection [04:53] k, will try other apps, cause this is driving me nuts [04:54] irssi is installed by default, but is cli only [04:54] you've got the dates, r we done here? shall we move to ubuntu-ca? [04:55] sure [04:55] i'll be there as soon as i've got another client configured [04:55] cya in a bit then === dennister [n=cathy@CPE0015f2cca11c-CM0014f8c63340.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Konversation] [05:02] woot! just joined the mailing list === atoponce thought he was on it this whole time... [05:03] which one? [05:03] ubuntu-marketing [05:04] right one, no? [05:04] Yep === cellofellow [n=josh@geek-105.69-71-167-0.qwest.dsl.vcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:30] I found some typos in the SVG Flyer files that were announced in the mailing list. How do I submit the changed files? [05:38] cellofellow: Upload them somewhere and make a post about it. People will take your changes if they like them. [05:38] ok === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:08] Burgundavia, Wanna work on UWN24 now? [06:08] watching BG. Just a sec === somerville32 pokes Burgundavia [06:32] I'm going to have to go to bed here soon ;] [06:33] alright, alright === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:39] alright, looks good, save the mark stuff until next week [06:39] whats the topic here? [06:40] UWN 24 [06:40] Burgundavia: ah ok... [06:42] Whats the passwd? [06:42] ufl@ftw ? [06:42] yep [06:42] got a huge number of initial revisions to sort through [06:43] should i dump the general stuff up so you guys can pick through it [06:43] ? [06:43] Sure. [06:44] dumping [06:45] done [06:45] dig in [06:45] elkbuntu: you up for some hacking? [06:45] somerville32: did you see last weeks format? [06:46] I helped write last week :P [06:46] Burgundavia: can i write about FOSS thing? [06:46] rjian: which one? [06:46] somerville32: I never remember [06:46] Burgundavia: any FOSS article happening.. [06:47] for 25 maybe [06:47] htere is a nice newsforge article about producing art for xuubntu === rjian ubuntu events is rare on Philippines but FOSS events is Rocking.. === Phoenix7477 [n=matt@d142-179-136-166.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:13] hehe [07:16] poningru: want to be drafted? [07:16] Burgundavia, uwn? [07:16] yep [07:16] feisty changes [07:16] I am doing the debian section [07:18] sure [07:18] coming [07:18] excellent === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:21] ok what are we doing? [07:22] see the giant dumb in the changes section? [07:22] same as last week [07:22] mgalvin: , long time, no see [07:22] ah ok [07:22] Burgundavia: hey man, yea, hi [07:22] you know I emailed armstrong she hasnt emailed me back yet at all [07:23] been busy at work trying to get some things done before the end of the year [07:23] she is busy [07:23] you coming back to join us? [07:24] i keep trying to, maybe this time i should say anything and maybe I will actually get to ;) [07:24] rather, should not [07:24] i should be around a bit though hopefully [07:25] we miss ya [07:25] I mean, we miss the work you do :) [07:26] poningru: need help getting started? [07:26] ah, i miss you guys too ;) i do miss hanging around... i should be able to get back to doing some stuff anyway [07:27] hehe naah finding the changes [07:27] grr brb [07:27] i will have to hang around a bit and ease back into the hustle and bustle [07:29] want to do some work tonight? [07:39] do we wanna do lm-sensors? [07:39] I mean thats just the hardware detection stuff... not much [07:40] deleting [07:40] Burgundavia^^ [07:40] uh everything ok? === poningru hopes his server just didnt go down [07:41] yep [07:41] just me [07:41] that is fine [07:42] trust your gut on what people care about [07:44] ok, formattting question [07:44] mhmm [07:44] see the first four auto syncs from debian [07:45] is that a more readable format than below it? [07:45] yeah it is [07:45] much [07:45] How do I submit some stuff for the DIY website? [07:45] I like the first four better [07:45] pschulz01: not yet up [07:45] pschulz01: you should probably wait till its done [07:45] pschulz01, poke jenda or danbuch [07:45] ;) [07:45] pschulz01: if you want to get it out there, attach it to DIYUbuntu on the wiki [07:45] OK :-)... [07:46] Burgundavia, i just realised... when those lines get wrapped, it's oging to make them an awful mess... [07:46] yep [07:46] lets see what it does [07:47] easy to revert and tweak [07:47] yep [07:47] want me to copy out and mail to you? [07:47] yep [07:49] sent [07:49] hmm, doesn't look too bad, but bouncing back === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:09] elkbuntu: ping [08:09] pong [08:09] just to make certain, I have finished the radvd section [08:10] i can see that [08:10] just making certain you were not heads into a web search [08:10] no, i was at that point when i asked [08:10] i started down the bottom, then poningru took over down there, so i went up top, and you werre there,, im in the middle now [08:10] heh [08:10] I am at the bottom now [08:11] if you can find info for control-center, go for it [08:13] I know what it is [08:42] elkbuntu: ping [08:42] pong [08:42] elkbuntu: thanks. my entire IRC client is dead [08:42] ie: there is no activity on any channel [08:43] which usually means my net has died, but my streaming music is still playing [08:47] I am sooo sorry guys I just have to go to sleep [08:47] I just finished up a large ass paper [08:47] and I am very very tired [08:47] :( [08:47] I just finished proofing it [08:47] nn [08:47] no worries === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:56] bloody compiz [08:58] You're still at that? [08:58] Wow. Dedication. [08:58] Burgundavia, why are you still torturing yourself w/ the spinny cube? [08:59] because I can, dammit [09:02] freak [09:21] elkbuntu: I am pretty tired and am about to head to bed === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:30] drat [10:30] one second too late === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:34] elkbuntu: or perhaps not [10:35] drat, and i was just messing with my lincity-ng game [10:36] wondering if I had left? [10:36] thought you had. you did say you were going to bed [10:37] almost [10:43] Burgundavia, is the kurdish thing fixed up to your satisfaction now? [10:43] hmm... it doesnt seem to ahve changed since i dumped it... [10:47] Burgundavia: are there any other feisty changes you wanted to add to UWN 24? [10:47] mgalvin, those are not complete yet, some need wording out still [10:48] elkbuntu: yea, i know, i was going to take a crack at them now (if no one else is?) [10:48] mgalvin, go for it === mgalvin goes for it [10:49] if for any of them you cant find anything that resembles a changelog, scrap it [10:49] ok === jenda scrolls and scrolls [11:30] pschulz01: Don't worry, your leaflet will be included in the site. [11:30] I might even have a few... hundred... printed... [11:33] where's the link [11:33] ? === tsmithe has scrolled and scrolled === MenZa [n=menza@last.fm/subscriber/pdpc.student.MenZa] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:50] jenda: Ta :-) [12:52] tsmithe: My link? [12:53] yup [12:53] http://community.mawsonlakes.org/ubuntu [12:53] [12:58] elkbuntu: Ping? [12:59] pschulz01, pong [01:00] cool [01:00] elkbuntu: Have you had any thoughs re. promotional stuff for LCA open day? [01:00] ah so that was your leaflet === tsmithe likes [01:00] and sorry for my idiotic email [01:00] [01:01] tsmithe: Thats ok! as long as you don't mind me just be a little bit amused.. [01:01] i don't mind [01:01] .. its the sort of thing I do. [01:01] well [01:01] .. have done. [01:02] i completely understand [01:02] :-) [01:02] pschulz01, not yet. [01:03] elkbuntu: What else do we need? Should i bring my blow up emperor pengiun? or can we source one locally :-) [01:06] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/gallery/2006/oceania/au/adelaide/mawsonlakes?webnail=bill-with-laptop&action=show [01:08] elkbuntu: Any ideas how big the stand/stall is? [01:09] pschulz01, no idea if it even has electricity or internet yet. no idea if it's even confirmed. [01:10] elkbuntu: let me know what I can go.. I can prepare material over Christmas.. [01:10] s/go/do/ [01:11] pschulz01, bimberi wants to get a heap of the posters printed off. he wants to laminate all of them or something, but i think that's a bit overzealous [01:12] he's the only other person to reply to my mail so far [01:13] elkbuntu: If we had a budget that would make sense, if it could go into a kit to be used elseware.. [01:15] swag bags will probably be brown paper bags (if we can source decent ones) with cds, stickers, the leaflet, ubuntu-au contact info, and an a4 poster. === elkbuntu goes back to her lincity-ng game : [01:17] elkbuntu: Screen some Ubuntu logo's on them.. fanltastic! [01:17] pschulz01, yep :) === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034086016.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe` [n=bip@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jenda` [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:58] pschulz01: can you link me to your brochure again, pls? === dennister [n=cathy@CPE0015f2cca11c-CM0014f8c63340.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:18] jenda: http://community.mawsonlakes.org/ubuntu [08:18] hehe [08:18] It seems the printer guy got seriously annoyed with me :) [08:19] What about Xubuntu? [08:19] I don't see Xubuntu on the thinger [08:20] He doesn't grasp the fact that I'm a volunteer and do it for the love of the project, and therefore won't rejoice about his great offer if it doesn't coincide with my plans... and that I might just decide that I don't know just yet :) [08:20] somerville32: Xubuntu ain't official. [08:20] It is to [08:20] *too [08:20] Xubuntu is an official sister project just like Edubuntu or Kubuntu === somerville32 slaps Jenda with a rainbow trout. [08:22] ok, whatever you say :) [08:22] Why doesn't shipit ship it, then? [08:22] It will be for the next LTS :P [08:22] :O [08:23] ok :) === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:41] jenda: which printer guy? posters? [08:41] nah, a guy I met on the Lin Weekend - he was interested in doing this stuff commercially. [08:42] aaah [08:42] He's slovakian, and we obviously had some miscommunication :) [08:42] i've gotta get my bip backlog to be longer [08:42] bip ftw ;) [08:42] yeah!! === tsmithe hugs jenda for introducing me to it [08:43] === danbuch929 [n=emelia@70-39-156-18.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lophyte [n=dsulliva@ubuntu/member/lophyte] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing