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| zorglu_ | q. is the source of falcon browsable by the web ? | 12:19 |
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| rmjb | zorglu_: from the Code link of the url I sent you earlier you can get to here: https://code.launchpad.net/people/dennis/+branch/falcon/devel | 12:22 |
| rmjb | you'll need bzr to get the source | 12:22 |
| zorglu_ | ok thanks | 12:23 |
| zorglu_ | http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt <- for those interested by the subject of security in this | 12:23 |
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| zorglu_ | ok i got it running without the scary 'unauthenticated package, are you sure you wanna break your box' :) | 12:34 |
| zorglu_ | thanks for your help guys :) | 12:34 |
| zorglu_ | greatly apreaciated | 12:34 |
| somerville32 | :) | 12:34 |
| rmjb | it's all part of being a community :) | 12:35 |
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| _MMA_ | Hi Evan. | 12:37 |
| LaserJock | grrr | 12:39 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: you around by chance? | 12:40 |
| crimsun | no. | 12:40 |
| LaserJock | darn | 12:41 |
| ehazlett | hey cory | 12:41 |
| LaserJock | is a package not usable when it used to be considered a regression (for SRUs)? | 12:41 |
| LaserJock | !info rpy | 12:42 |
| ubotu | Package rpy does not exist in any distro I know | 12:42 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: imo, yes. | 12:42 |
| LaserJock | !info python-rpy | 12:42 |
| ubotu | python-rpy: Python interface to the GNU R language and environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.2-4build1 (edgy), package size 41 kB, installed size 176 kB | 12:42 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: in the last 24s I've picked up 4, 2 Main, 2 Universe | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | seems kinda crazy | 12:43 |
| crimsun | you go! | 12:43 |
| crimsun | there's our motu superstar! | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | s/24s/24 hr/ | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm trying to figure out if they are really SRUs or not | 12:44 |
| LaserJock | 'cause I don't exactly look forward to the process | 12:44 |
| crimsun | main's SRU process is more straightforward than universe's :) | 12:44 |
| LaserJock | I suppose that's true | 12:44 |
| crimsun | there's no "must be tested by 5 people" | 12:44 |
| LaserJock | mostly just run it by mdz/cjwatson then let sfflaw know | 12:45 |
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| LaserJock | mhm | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | I saw that | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | I can't figure it out | 12:46 |
| Fujitsu | Neither can I. | 12:46 |
| Fujitsu | It must be a different bug. | 12:47 |
| Fujitsu | As the bug is most definitely fixed. | 12:47 |
| Fujitsu | Anyhow, cjwatson will accept maxima on Monday if there is no response from that guy, or if it turns out to be unrelated. | 12:47 |
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| LaserJock | Fujitsu: I think it has to be something | 12:50 |
| === Fujitsu likes the number of outdated science packages... But not the bugs numbers so much. | ||
| LaserJock | what do you mean? | 12:51 |
| Fujitsu | There are 9 science packages which need merging, but like 200 bugs. | 12:51 |
| LaserJock | well, we actually have a pretty good bugs/packages ratio | 12:52 |
| LaserJock | just a lot of packages | 12:52 |
| Fujitsu | ~0.5 bugs per package isn't good. | 12:52 |
| Fujitsu | Though gnumeric and TeX* don't help. | 12:52 |
| LaserJock | well yeah | 12:53 |
| LaserJock | if you take ou gnumeric alone (hmm, I guess that's what getting packages from experimental might do to you) | 12:53 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 12:53 |
| Fujitsu | Hahah | 12:54 |
| Fujitsu | If you eliminate Gnumeric and everything TeX-related, we're down to 126, which isn't so bad. | 12:54 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: what do you think about getting maxima into Main? | 12:54 |
| Fujitsu | Sounds like a good idea, if wxmaxima goes too. | 12:55 |
| LaserJock | yeah, it would be wxmaxima in particular | 12:55 |
| LaserJock | ok, I'll bbl | 12:58 |
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| Fujitsu | Bye. | 12:59 |
| Fujitsu | What should I do about bugs like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=384744? | 01:02 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 384744 in drgeo "DrGeo has no .desktop" [Wishlist,Open] | 01:02 |
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| geser | Fujitsu: become upstream? | 01:04 |
| Fujitsu | I don't particularly want to... | 01:04 |
| Fujitsu | There are too many science packages being orphaned these days... :'( | 01:05 |
| geser | at least you know that they are orphaned | 01:05 |
| geser | better orphaned than to have a maintainer which does nothing for this package | 01:06 |
| Fujitsu | I think I'll try to take the Debian package, though. It looks like quite an interesting project... | 01:06 |
| Fujitsu | True. | 01:06 |
| geser | trying to get fujitsu@debian.org? | 01:07 |
| Fujitsu | Eventually, hopefully :P | 01:07 |
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| _MMA_ | imbrandon: ping | 01:14 |
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| joejaxx | :) | 01:48 |
| ehazlett | :) | 01:48 |
| somerville32 | :) | 01:50 |
| joejaxx | so i have figured out a way around the whole apt-cache problem | 01:52 |
| joejaxx | chroot fix everything | 01:52 |
| joejaxx | chroots* | 01:52 |
| joejaxx | :) | 01:52 |
| _MMA_ | joejaxx: ehazlett is the reconstructor guy. ;) | 01:58 |
| joejaxx | really? | 01:58 |
| _MMA_ | yep | 01:58 |
| ehazlett | yep | 01:59 |
| joejaxx | ehazlett: hello :) | 01:59 |
| ehazlett | :) | 01:59 |
| ehazlett | greetings... :) | 01:59 |
| ehazlett | brb guys... | 02:00 |
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| rmjb_ | So I was trying some merges today, and on the universe merges page the rows are different shades... is the richer green an easier merge? | 02:06 |
| Fujitsu | rmjb_: It is priority of the upload in Debian. | 02:11 |
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| Fujitsu | Hm. | 02:12 |
| rmjb_ | oh... I just wondered because the darker green ones I've hit only had one file to handle, while the others had more | 02:12 |
| Fujitsu | Maybe not... | 02:12 |
| Fujitsu | I think you may be right. | 02:12 |
| Fujitsu | There must have been a reason I thought it was priority :S | 02:13 |
| Fujitsu | Be warned that a lot of the listed merges have already been done, or syncs have been filed. MoM hasn't been updating, of late. | 02:14 |
| rmjb | I had a hard time handling gnushogi that was previously done by bddebian... but now that I'm on the darker green ones I'm having more success | 02:14 |
| rmjb | yeah I check launchpad before | 02:14 |
| Fujitsu | Good, good. | 02:14 |
| rmjb | imbrandon: I'm taking a crack at merging gtkpod | 02:16 |
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| rmjb_ | I just got bumped, dunno how much of my last message made it if any at all so I'm gonna repeat it | 02:36 |
| rmjb_ | do I have to patch the install rule of the Makefile to change the location? Or is there a packaging trick that can be used? | 02:36 |
| rmjb_ | do I have to patch the install rule of the Makefile to change the location? Or is there a packaging trick that can be used? | 02:36 |
| rmjb_ | sorry, let me start over | 02:36 |
| rmjb_ | I have a java app on REVU and dholbach said the jar file should go into /usr/share/java, but the package automatically puts it into /usr/share/iriverter/lib/ | 02:36 |
| rmjb_ | do I have to patch the install rule of the Makefile to change the location? Or is there a packaging trick that can be used? | 02:36 |
| crimsun | in debian/rules, dh_install(1), or mv(1) | 02:37 |
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| rmjb_ | thanks... I took a look at the Makefile and my eyes glazed over... glad I don't have to patch it | 02:38 |
| === Fujitsu gets depressed over the insane number of .desktop bugs that are being ignored by Debian. | ||
| crimsun | seb mentioned pushing those upstream upstream instead of relying on upstream Debian | 02:39 |
| Fujitsu | Doesn't help if upstream is dead, or if Debian is dead. | 02:40 |
| crimsun | true 'nuff | 02:41 |
| crimsun | you could hijack the package | 02:41 |
| Fujitsu | That reminds me, I need to attack Debian's transcalc... A new version was released > 2.5 years ago, and there are a couple of other open bugs. I got the new version into Edgy, but what should I do about Debian? | 02:42 |
| crimsun | filed a wishlist in Debian BTS? | 02:43 |
| Fujitsu | They have been filed for some years. | 02:44 |
| crimsun | with no apparent activity? hijack it ;) | 02:44 |
| Fujitsu | (one is almost 5 years olf, AFAIK) | 02:44 |
| Fujitsu | *old | 02:44 |
| Fujitsu | How do I go about that if the current maintainer isn't around to orphan it? | 02:44 |
| crimsun | http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-beyond-pkging.en.html#s-mia-qa | 02:46 |
| LaserJock | I saw a few syncs from bddebians work lately | 02:46 |
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| rmjb | crimsun: it's okay to just put a mv command in after $(MAKE) install DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/iriverter in the debian/rules file? | 03:02 |
| Fujitsu | Eeeeek, I strongly dislike the latest comment in #43150. | 03:02 |
| Fujitsu | Wait, that's the wrong error message... | 03:02 |
| crimsun | rmjb: sure, although I recommend you consider dh_install(1) instead | 03:03 |
| crimsun | rmjb: #75182 uploaded. | 03:03 |
| joejaxx | dhinstall is great | 03:04 |
| rmjb | sweet, I'm having really good luck with packaging today | 03:04 |
| rmjb | that's 3 for me that got uploaded :D | 03:05 |
| rmjb | 3 today, 3 in all... | 03:05 |
| joejaxx | nice | 03:05 |
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| rmjb | so in that case, the call to dh_install would replace the line $(MAKE) install DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/iriverter | 03:07 |
| rmjb | and I'd set up a iriverter.install file pointing to where everything goes | 03:07 |
| crimsun | no | 03:08 |
| crimsun | you still need make install | 03:08 |
| crimsun | you just don't need to manually invoke mv(1); just make sure dh_install(1) is invoked [with any appropriate parameters] | 03:08 |
| rmjb | okay, and that call to dh_install would be in the install: section of debian/rules right? not binary-indep? | 03:15 |
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| bluefoxicy | hm | 04:03 |
| rmjb | I'm at a loss | 04:05 |
| rmjb | in the build environment (in this case pbuilder) where would /usr/share/iriverter/lib/iriverter.jar be? | 04:05 |
| rmjb | so far i've tried debian/usr/share/iriverter/lib/iriverter.jar | 04:06 |
| rmjb | debian/iriverter/usr/share/iriverter/lib/iriverter.jar | 04:06 |
| rmjb | and plain /usr/share/iriverter/lib/iriverter.jar | 04:06 |
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| rmjb | also $(CURDIR)/debian/iriverter/usr/share/iriverter/lib/iriverter.jar | 04:06 |
| rmjb | but each time pbuilder craps out on the dh_install command I added to the debain/rules file | 04:07 |
| rmjb | I'm suffering from a lack of understanding as to how the files are laid out in the build environment | 04:07 |
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| crimsun | rmjb: they're all relative. Don't use absolute paths. | 04:15 |
| crimsun | rmjb: what are the contents of your debian/#foo.install? | 04:16 |
| crimsun | -\# | 04:16 |
| rmjb | ... I don't have any? | 04:16 |
| rmjb | is that my first problem? | 04:16 |
| crimsun | did you just randomly call dh_install? | 04:16 |
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| rmjb | this is the line I added to debian/rules: | 04:17 |
| rmjb | dh_install debian/usr/share/iriverter/lib/iriverter.jar debian/usr/share/java | 04:17 |
| crimsun | mmkay, so you need to reread dh_install(1) | 04:19 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: ping, do you have a mdt package ( or a source tar or something i can work with ) | 04:19 |
| crimsun | essentially, dh_install is bombing because it doesn't understand invalid syntax you provided | 04:19 |
| crimsun | hint: use debian/foo.install | 04:19 |
| rmjb | well it says it can take [file [...] dest] | 04:19 |
| rmjb | I'm trying with iriverter.install now | 04:20 |
| crimsun | have you spotted your path error? | 04:20 |
| crimsun | $(pwd)/debian/usr/ is invalid | 04:20 |
| rmjb | dh_install | 04:21 |
| rmjb | cp: cannot stat `./usr/share/java/iriverter.jar': No such file or directory | 04:21 |
| crimsun | right, see above. | 04:21 |
| crimsun | debian/iriverter/usr != debian/usr | 04:21 |
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| rmjb | the foo.install file lists the files I and places I want to put the files right? | 04:25 |
| rmjb | mine has one line: | 04:26 |
| rmjb | usr/share/java/iriverter.jar | 04:26 |
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| crimsun | rmjb: -please- read the man page :) | 04:30 |
| rmjb | I'm trying... I really am... I've gone over it about 3 times | 04:30 |
| rmjb | tell me this though... where should dh_install be called in the debian/rules? in the install rule or the build-binaryindep rule with all the other debhelper commands? | 04:34 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:39 |
| rmjb | hey bddebian | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | hey bddebian | 04:39 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 04:39 |
| crimsun | rmjb: normally the install target, but it depends on the package | 04:39 |
| bddebian | Wow, Hi rmjb, Burgundavia, LaserJock, crimsun :-) | 04:40 |
| crimsun | yes, all three of the motu trinity are present! | 04:41 |
| crimsun | (you, LaserJock, & imbrandon) | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | bah | 04:41 |
| bddebian | pfft | 04:41 |
| rmjb | time to form MOTUtron... or something like that | 04:42 |
| bddebian | haha | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | yeah, my wife always asks why we did He-man rather then transformers | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | she thinks transformers would be better for some reason :-) | 04:42 |
| bddebian | Transformers rock :-) | 04:44 |
| rmjb | this dh_install is not sinking in for some reason... I'll get back to it tomorrow | 04:45 |
| rmjb | g'night all | 04:45 |
| bddebian | Gnight rmjb | 04:45 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: It appears that you don't need me anymore :'-( | 04:47 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: why? | 04:54 |
| LaserJock | of course I need you | 04:54 |
| crimsun | it's not exactly a trinity with only two parts! | 04:56 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Well 'William Grant' has apparently done all my science package syncs and merges :-) | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: oh, I remember I was going to talk to you | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | could you do me a huge favor and look over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Science/UpstreamDelta and make sure your .desktop stuff is updated on there | 04:57 |
| bddebian | Egads.. I can try | 04:59 |
| somerville32 | Do you think we could get xjump promoted to main so that we can include it with Xubuntu? | 05:00 |
| Burgundavia | somerville32: main inclusion report | 05:01 |
| somerville32 | Before I goto the trouble, I thought I'd get some opinions | 05:01 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: By upstream there do you mean Debian or upstream, upstream? | 05:06 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: well, Debian to start with | 05:12 |
| Fujitsu | bddebian: I needed /something/ to do :P | 05:12 |
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| bddebian | Fujitsu: No worries :-) | 05:13 |
| Fujitsu | MoM hasn't updated in 3 days :'( | 05:13 |
| bddebian | So I've noticed :-( | 05:13 |
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| LaserJock | [[ is a bashism isn't it? | 05:18 |
| bddebian | In what usage? | 05:19 |
| LaserJock | if [[ $AUTOMAKE_VERSION = "1.4|1.5|1.6" ] ] ; then | 05:20 |
| bddebian | Hmm. I think that should be OK, but I'm a moron :-) | 05:24 |
| StevenK | %n@%m:%(5~|.../%2c|%~)%% if [[ $AUTOMAKE_VERSION = "1.4|1.5|1.6" ] ] ; then echo yes ; fi | 05:25 |
| StevenK | dash: [[: not found | 05:25 |
| StevenK | Single [ | 05:25 |
| bddebian | Hmm, guess I was wrong as usual | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I'm really struggling here | 05:25 |
| StevenK | $AUTOMAKE_VERSION should also be quoted | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | I reinstalled Edgy and now some upstream stuff I'm working on doesn't work anymore | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | ./autogen.sh scripts | 05:26 |
| Simon80 | :( | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | I don't understand | 05:27 |
| StevenK | Don't understand which? | 05:28 |
| LaserJock | they were working | 05:28 |
| LaserJock | I did a reinstallation and now they don't | 05:28 |
| StevenK | Perhaps your shell didn't change to dash? | 05:29 |
| Burgundavia | somerville32: can xubuntu reuse the gnome-games package? | 05:34 |
| somerville32 | No | 05:34 |
| somerville32 | Not currently at least | 05:34 |
| somerville32 | We thought there might be a compile option to disable the gnome stuff but apparently it doesn't exist. | 05:35 |
| Burgundavia | might be better to work on that, instead | 05:35 |
| somerville32 | Jani doesn't think so | 05:35 |
| Burgundavia | right | 05:35 |
| somerville32 | What the poop | 05:36 |
| somerville32 | My e-mail to ubuntu-devel bounced | 05:36 |
| Burgundavia | bounced or stuck in the moderation queue? | 05:37 |
| somerville32 | stuck in mod queue | 05:37 |
| Burgundavia | I can clear it | 05:37 |
| somerville32 | Thanks | 05:37 |
| somerville32 | My e-mails have never been modded before | 05:38 |
| somerville32 | Why are they now? | 05:38 |
| Burgundavia | different addy? | 05:38 |
| Burgundavia | oh, wait, the new devel list | 05:38 |
| somerville32 | Nope | 05:38 |
| somerville32 | Oh, doh. | 05:38 |
| somerville32 | Can I get whitelisted? | 05:38 |
| Burgundavia | if you are a dev or motu | 05:38 |
| somerville32 | Does Xubuntu dev count? | 05:38 |
| Burgundavia | motu or dev teams in LP | 05:39 |
| somerville32 | I'm a member of the xubuntu dev team in LP | 05:39 |
| somerville32 | But not the ubuntu dev team | 05:39 |
| Burgundavia | right, not certain | 05:39 |
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| crimsun | probably not. | 05:45 |
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| somerville32 | crimsun: A core-dev can promote to main, right? | 05:47 |
| somerville32 | ie. you | 05:48 |
| somerville32 | haha | 05:48 |
| crimsun | can...what? | 05:48 |
| somerville32 | Can a core-dev approve a main inclusion report? | 05:48 |
| Burgundavia | only the securirty team does it, which currently means pitti | 05:49 |
| crimsun | if you mean promote a universe->main, no. Only a member of ubuntu-archive can promote, and only pitti can approve an MIR. | 05:49 |
| somerville32 | Doh | 05:52 |
| bddebian | Has bmonty been around at all lately? | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | I haven't seen him. | 05:56 |
| crimsun | about a week or so ago | 05:58 |
| Fujitsu | What a large number of tags people have used for bugs... | 05:59 |
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| imbrandon | crimsun: i think keescook can do MIR's too now | 06:01 |
| imbrandon | iirc | 06:01 |
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| Fujitsu | Evening, pointy-stick bearer. | 06:07 |
| bddebian | heh | 06:08 |
| bddebian | Shit, what's the best way to get a diff of a native package since there is no diff.gz file? | 06:08 |
| Fujitsu | diff -pruN | 06:08 |
| Fujitsu | Or thereabouts. | 06:09 |
| Fujitsu | A debdiff would do it. | 06:09 |
| bddebian | I don't have the Debian version to compare against | 06:09 |
| imbrandon | debdiff *.dsc > blah.debdiff ? | 06:09 |
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| Fujitsu | bddebian: Why not? | 06:14 |
| bddebian | 'cause it's an old Debian version and I'm too lazy to go look in Debian snapshots :) | 06:14 |
| Fujitsu | Merging? | 06:15 |
| bddebian | Yeah | 06:15 |
| === Hobbsee should do some of that | ||
| Fujitsu | bddebian: Doesn't MoM have the appropriate version? | 06:18 |
| bddebian | Dunno, I usually do all my merges manually :-) | 06:18 |
| === Fujitsu kicks MoM and hopes it turns on again. | ||
| imbrandon | Fujitsu: did you or LaserJock have a deb of mdt ? | 06:19 |
| Fujitsu | LJ, AFAIK. | 06:21 |
| imbrandon | k | 06:21 |
| === imbrandon is trying to get those scripts running on his new server | ||
| Fujitsu | At your place, or externally hosted? | 06:22 |
| imbrandon | i colo'd a new box on a phat connection here at work | 06:22 |
| imbrandon | :) | 06:23 |
| Fujitsu | Aha. | 06:23 |
| Hobbsee | nice! | 06:23 |
| === Fujitsu wonders how he can convince MDT to filter by component. | ||
| imbrandon | i just got it setup tonight | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | infact thats where i'm irc'd in from :) | 06:24 |
| Fujitsu | Aha. | 06:24 |
| imbrandon | i only have one hostname pointing to it right now ( voyager.imbrandon.com ) but i'm going to move all of imbrandon.com to it cept horatio and enterprise | 06:24 |
| imbrandon | over the next week or so | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | and get us some usefull scripts running on crons hopefully | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | well thats the plan anyhow | 06:25 |
| bddebian | Damn Fujitsu have you done ALL the merges? :-) | 06:25 |
| Fujitsu | I'd have done more if stupid MoM hadn't failed :( | 06:26 |
| === Fujitsu whips up a MoM equivalent. | ||
| Hobbsee | bddebian: i believe ubuntu-universe-sponsors has a whole lot of stuff to look up, sort, and upload, i fyou wanted to do that | 06:28 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: I guess so since Fujitsu has done all my merges already :-) | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | good man :) | 06:29 |
| bddebian | Is that different than motureviewers? | 06:33 |
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| bddebian | Hobbsee: Where is that?? | 06:37 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: it's a team on LP | 06:37 |
| Hobbsee | i've never reviewed anything off MOTU reviewers - but i doubt it is | 06:38 |
| bddebian | What's the team name? | 06:38 |
| Fujitsu | They aren't the same, though they serve a similar function. | 06:38 |
| Fujitsu | ubuntu-universe-sponsors. | 06:38 |
| bddebian | I thought I tried that.. Hmm | 06:39 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: lp.net/people/hobbsee and pick the one that i'm the owner of | 06:41 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: I doubt that there is any stuff on u-u-s' todo list... crimsun handles everything within 30 seconds. | 06:41 |
| imbrandon | lol | 06:41 |
| bddebian | Ah there it is. 33 there, 34 on motureviewers :-) | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: there were lots of subscribed bugs. but crimsun's good at that, yes | 06:41 |
| imbrandon | probably some overlap from people that dident know what one | 06:41 |
| imbrandon | to use | 06:41 |
| bddebian | I guess I stayed away too long.. Now I'm no longer needed... *sniff* *sniff* | 06:42 |
| Fujitsu | Eek, still 228 merges to go. | 06:42 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: lots are out of date, remember? | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: so did i. | 06:43 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: No, this is my list. | 06:44 |
| Fujitsu | I just generated it then. | 06:44 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: ahh right. want to put it somewhere? | 06:44 |
| Fujitsu | http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/motuscience/versions/universe.html#outdatedandlocalinB | 06:44 |
| Fujitsu | (it's updated on the half-hour, and hopefully won't explode for 3 days) | 06:46 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:47 |
| imbrandon | Fujitsu: dig the mdt deb out of your apt cache for me :) | 06:47 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon: It's an old version, and I'm not even sure it's from a deb. | 06:47 |
| imbrandon | dident you have patch that it needed anyhow ? | 06:47 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 06:47 |
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| DBO | beryl 0.1.3 tagged | 06:48 |
| imbrandon | ello DBO | 06:48 |
| === Fujitsu runs | ||
| imbrandon | ok DBO can it wait ~12 hours ? i was about to head to bed hehehe | 06:48 |
| DBO | get it before digg crashes out servers =P | 06:48 |
| imbrandon | LOL | 06:48 |
| DBO | thats perfectly ok | 06:48 |
| imbrandon | kk | 06:48 |
| imbrandon | i'll get it when i wake up, there are tarbals made right? and the mesa cruft isnt in the source anymore ? | 06:49 |
| DBO | the mesa cruft was moved to a seperate tarball | 06:49 |
| DBO | gentoo wanted it | 06:49 |
| Hobbsee | hey DBO | 06:49 |
| DBO | but you just skip it | 06:49 |
| DBO | heya Hobbsee | 06:49 |
| imbrandon | k | 06:49 |
| bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | yea same here | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | gnight all | 06:55 |
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| Simon80 | dagnammit, it's too hard to find a good howto on making your own pool repo | 07:32 |
| Simon80 | anyone know how to use apt-ftparchive? | 07:35 |
| Fujitsu | Simon80: Considered Falcon? | 07:46 |
| Simon80 | no, I didn't, I guess I should.. | 07:46 |
| Simon80 | I don't like using 3rd party tools if I can avoid it... I'm like that | 07:47 |
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| Simon80 | I'm officially fed up now though, sticking to my trivial repo | 07:52 |
| _Enchained | hi here | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure falcon is exactly 3rd party | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | I haven't used it yet though | 07:54 |
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| Fujitsu | Falcon is a little more 3rd party than some other stuff, but not by much. | 07:56 |
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| _Enchained | someone to review my package ? | 07:59 |
| Hobbsee | where? | 08:00 |
| _Enchained | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3697 | 08:00 |
| Gloubiboulga | _Enchained: already awake! ;) | 08:04 |
| _Enchained | Gloubiboulga: no | 08:04 |
| _Enchained | not slepped | 08:04 |
| _Enchained | lol | 08:04 |
| Gloubiboulga | _Enchained: *g* I can't do this :) | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | hmm, anybody know of a good way to see what compenents a package's deps are in? | 08:04 |
| _Enchained | I live the night and sleep the day ^^ | 08:05 |
| Hobbsee | looks pretty clean to me | 08:05 |
| Gloubiboulga | LaserJock: there's no tool for that AFAIK | 08:05 |
| Fujitsu | You'd have to get the depends, then madison, I suppose. | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait, found an error | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | I think I'll write a script | 08:06 |
| _Enchained | Hobbsee: ? | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | _Enchained: spelling error | 08:06 |
| _Enchained | where ? | 08:07 |
| Hobbsee | writing on revu | 08:07 |
| _Enchained | ok | 08:07 |
| === Fujitsu fetches his {grammar,spelling}-police whip. | ||
| Hobbsee | _Enchained: where are you from? | 08:08 |
| _Enchained | france | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: that's what i'm looking at it for - the rest looks fine | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: where are you from? | 08:09 |
| _Enchained | france too I think | 08:09 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee: France as well | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | gotcha | 08:09 |
| _Enchained | 2 frenchies with a bad english spelling ? :p | 08:10 |
| Gloubiboulga | hehe :) | 08:10 |
| crimsun | don't worry, we have plenty of native English speakers who spell and speak [grammatically] far worse | 08:10 |
| Gloubiboulga | that's one of the reasons why we should keep the two reviews to ack a package IMO | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: OH I KNOW | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | sorry, capslock | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: i'm not comfortable being the only ack for a package, to be honest | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | i dont know everything - far from it | 08:11 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee: I feel the same way | 08:11 |
| === Fujitsu feels the same way too. | ||
| === somerville32 feels the same way too. | ||
| Fujitsu | crimsun: Yeah, it's really bad! | 08:13 |
| Fujitsu | soz, yah its rly bad! | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | _Enchained: suggested a better description | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: can you check mine, and see if there's any better way to put it? | 08:14 |
| _Enchained | ok I look at it | 08:14 |
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| Hobbsee | ajmitch: there are still bugs in malone | 08:53 |
| ajmitch | haven't bddebian & Fujitsu fixed them all? | 08:54 |
| Hobbsee | i dont think so | 08:54 |
| ajmitch | surprising | 08:54 |
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| Fujitsu | ajmitch: That zope-zms sync is something you should deal with! It's a whole 0.5% of our science bug stats. | 09:16 |
| ajmitch | ZOMG OH NOES! | 09:23 |
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| tsmithe | Laser_away: i know you're away. but i uploaded a new asoundconf-gtk, and so the url on your todo list will have changed. it's now at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3723 | 01:04 |
| tsmithe | thanks muchly | 01:04 |
| tsmithe | hang on | 01:07 |
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| tsmithe | that was bad | 01:07 |
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| tsmithe | link now: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3723 | 01:20 |
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| zakame | hi all | 01:38 |
| === zakame merges libbonobomm1.3 | ||
| tsmithe | someone wanna review asoundconf-gtk? | 01:39 |
| === tsmithe needs another revu'er | ||
| Gloubiboulga | hello zakame | 01:40 |
| Gloubiboulga | highvoltage: tsmithe | 01:41 |
| tsmithe | hi Gloubiboulga | 01:41 |
| Gloubiboulga | arg | 01:41 |
| tsmithe | highvoltage? | 01:41 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi tsmithe | 01:41 |
| Gloubiboulga | <tab> magic ;) | 01:41 |
| tsmithe | ah | 01:41 |
| tsmithe | :) | 01:41 |
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| highvoltage | hi Gloubiboulga :) | 01:46 |
| zakame | yo Gloubiboulga | 01:46 |
| === highvoltage gets that a lot on IRC :-D | ||
| zakame | just done libbonobomm1.3, looks like just a sync :) | 01:46 |
| zakame | hmm, what next? | 01:49 |
| zakame | Hobbsee: mind if I do some of you pkgs? | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | zakame: go for it | 01:49 |
| === Hobbsee hasnt found much motivation to merge things | ||
| zakame | cool, thanks :) | 01:50 |
| zakame | Hobbsee: how come no mojo? | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | no idea. been away | 01:50 |
| zakame | ah | 01:51 |
| zakame | I need a break from learning Java (and preparing to get back to motujava again) | 01:52 |
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| zakame | ok, on kfocus now | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | zakame: for anything with kde extras team as the maintainer in debian, ping me - we're trying to chuck all our changes into debian, and just sync them | 01:54 |
| zakame | okm noted :D | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | thought there was a sync requested for that, iirc | 01:54 |
| zakame | yes, bug#74255 already fixed | 01:55 |
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| zakame | funny still in the universe mreges list :/ | 01:55 |
| zakame | next then :) | 01:56 |
| Hobbsee | oh, MOM's broekn it seems | 01:58 |
| StevenK | Indeed. | 01:58 |
| StevenK | She hasn't updated for a little while. | 01:58 |
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| tenshu | hi all | 01:59 |
| okaratas | hi | 01:59 |
| tenshu | Is there any doc on building a java application for ubuntu? | 01:59 |
| zakame | yo tenshu | 02:00 |
| zakame | hmm that's a good question... for ubuntu, or *on* ubuntu? | 02:01 |
| tenshu | huu for ubuntu | 02:01 |
| tenshu | i found a good Point Of Sale Management app but in java | 02:02 |
| zakame | java ee? | 02:02 |
| tenshu | what? | 02:03 |
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| zakame | I mean is it a java ee app? | 02:03 |
| tenshu | i think so, the author provide 2 archives on with all .java files and an other with compiled .jar | 02:04 |
| zakame | i see... actually that's question that I could ask so myself | 02:06 |
| zakame | did you see the install requirements for that app? what does it say? | 02:06 |
| tenshu | well java jre, java connector with mysql | 02:07 |
| tenshu | there is a tutorial for debian | 02:07 |
| tenshu | i think libgcj7-awt is needed too | 02:08 |
| zakame | ah... I suppose you can follow the debian tutorial then | 02:08 |
| zakame | you can get the jre via sun-java5-jre | 02:08 |
| tenshu | ok, there is no "special things you must know" for the packaging process | 02:09 |
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| zakame | brb | 02:20 |
| okaratas | hi | 02:20 |
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| Gloubiboulga | highvoltage: hi, and congrats for tuXlab, it sounds amazing | 02:40 |
| highvoltage | Gloubiboulga: thanks :) | 02:41 |
| Gloubiboulga | highvoltage: would it be possible to get a DVD ? | 02:42 |
| highvoltage | Gloubiboulga: yep, e-mail me, and I'll keep your name on record, we'll be printing dvd's shortly. we'll only have limited amounts, but I could sent you one | 02:42 |
| Gloubiboulga | highvoltage: thanks! what's you email address ? | 02:43 |
| highvoltage | Gloubiboulga: e-mail me at jonathan@inkululelo.co.za with your details and postal address | 02:43 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok | 02:43 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello bddebian :) | 02:48 |
| bddebian | Hi Gloubiboulga | 02:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | highvoltage: Delivery Status Notification for the mail I just sent to you | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | !packagingguide | 02:51 |
| ubotu | The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | 02:51 |
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| highvoltage | Gloubiboulga: oops, made a typo, should be: jonathan@inkululeko.co.za | 02:54 |
| Gloubiboulga | highvoltage: ok, sent | 02:58 |
| highvoltage | Gloubiboulga: got it! | 02:59 |
| Gloubiboulga | :) | 02:59 |
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| bddebian | Hobbsee: What's the point of looking at universe-sponsor list when you and crimsun have done them all? :-) | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: i havent. start from the bottom :P | 03:16 |
| proppy | crimsun: ping | 03:21 |
| proppy | crimsun: pypoker-eval successfully synced, thanks | 03:21 |
| proppy | crimsun: but the r-dependency are still tagged as Missing Dependencies: python-pypoker-eval | 03:22 |
| proppy | is this only a matter of time ? | 03:22 |
| proppy | according to the build log it was started at : 20061207-1134 | 03:23 |
| proppy | and it was sync the 1208, so i guess i shall just wait the next build pas | 03:23 |
| proppy | +s | 03:23 |
| geser | Hobbsee: what about bug 71197? "Rejected" or "Fix Released"? | 03:27 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 71197 in terminal "Ctrl+v doesn't work in terminal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71197 | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | geser: whichever. released | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | geser: either takes it out of the search lists | 03:28 |
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| geser | why are bug watches for fixed Ubuntu bugs still listed? | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure | 03:32 |
| bddebian | geser: I was just looking at 71197, I would say reject :-) | 03:37 |
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| rmjb | morning all | 03:51 |
| bddebian | Heya rmjb | 03:53 |
| bddebian | Ack, wtf is the deal with the patch for 68454?? | 03:54 |
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| rmjb | bddebian: where are you exactly? AU? | 03:54 |
| bddebian | US | 03:54 |
| rmjb | okay... you seem to be on a completely opposite timezone from me :) | 03:56 |
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| shawarma | I see many people put something like "Fixes: LP#42424" in the Debian changelog. Is this used for any sort of automatic closing of bugs or something? If so, what is the format? | 04:22 |
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| shawarma | As a MOTU, I've only been doing merges so far, so I'm not too familiar with the bug handling process. Do we manually set bugs to "fix committed" and "fix released"? | 04:24 |
| bddebian | Yes | 04:25 |
| bddebian | And usually the Bug # is put in the changelog to reference why the change was made afaik | 04:25 |
| shawarma | Any particular reason for this? When looking at the Debian BTS it seems they parse the changelogs and see if there are any "Fixes #42334" and then closes the bug accordingly. | 04:26 |
| bddebian | You'd have to ask the LP people. I don't think it parses changelogs | 04:27 |
| phanatic | shawarma: it's not yet implemented into LP | 04:27 |
| shawarma | phanatic: Oh, ok. So it's not by design? | 04:27 |
| phanatic | shawarma: i think it's planned (for bazaar at least, but once it's implemented in one product, it shouldn't be difficult to get it into another) | 04:28 |
| shawarma | phanatic: bazaar? As in bzr? | 04:29 |
| phanatic | shawarma: yeah, it's called bazaar now :) | 04:29 |
| shawarma | phanatic: I see. So I'm going to be able to trigger certaing actions based on commit message content in bzr^H^H^Hbazaar? Clever. | 04:31 |
| phanatic | exactly | 04:31 |
| rmjb | can someone give me a hand with using dh_install to move a file that the upstream's makefile installs into the wrong place according to debian's policy? | 04:32 |
| bddebian | rmjb: You can either put it in a .install file or just use cp or mv in debian/rules | 04:32 |
| rmjb | I was advised to use something other than mv | 04:33 |
| bddebian | Does it already have a .install file? | 04:33 |
| rmjb | no, it's one I'm doing from scratch | 04:33 |
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| rmjb | but my first and most basic question is... where should that command be in the debian/rules file? | 04:33 |
| rmjb | in the install rule after the call to make install? | 04:34 |
| rmjb | or in the binary-indep rule (it's a java app) | 04:34 |
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| shawarma | rmjb: I'd vote for install. | 04:37 |
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| bddebian | binary-arch: or binary-indep: | 04:39 |
| rmjb | okay, cool | 04:40 |
| rmjb | now the impression I get from the dh_install(1) man page is that my .install file would have to list *all* the files in the package, even if I want to move just one? | 04:41 |
| bddebian | You can do dh_install foo bar to do just one file I think but iirc it has some implications | 04:41 |
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| Adri2000 | someone of the sru team available? | 04:57 |
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| rmjb | I hope someone is still here... so here's my predicament, I have this line in the binary-indep rule: | 05:21 |
| rmjb | dh_install src/iriverter.jar usr/share/java | 05:21 |
| rmjb | but pbuilder fails with: | 05:21 |
| rmjb | dh_install src/iriverter.jar usr/share/java | 05:21 |
| rmjb | cp: cannot stat `./usr/share/java/iriverter.jar': No such file or directory | 05:21 |
| rmjb | I also have this line in iriverter.install: | 05:22 |
| rmjb | usr/share/java/iriverter.jar | 05:22 |
| rmjb | and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, just that it doesn't work | 05:22 |
| Gloubiboulga | rmjb: try "dh_install -piriverter src/iriverter.jar usr/share/java" | 05:23 |
| Gloubiboulga | and your .install is useless I think | 05:23 |
| shawarma | Gloubiboulga: -piriverter ?!? | 05:24 |
| Gloubiboulga | shawarma: iriverter is the package name, right ? or did I miss something ? | 05:24 |
| shawarma | Gloubiboulga: Oh.. LOL! | 05:25 |
| shawarma | Gloubiboulga: Maybe, I don't know. | 05:25 |
| shawarma | Gloubiboulga: I just thought it was some magic, undocumented option that created the directories you needed. :-) | 05:25 |
| shawarma | rmjb: The problem is that usr/share/java doesn't exist. | 05:25 |
| Gloubiboulga | shawarma: no no :) | 05:26 |
| rmjb | in the build system you mean? | 05:26 |
| shawarma | rmjb: if you try to copy a file to a directory that doesn't exists, that's the error you're going to get. | 05:26 |
| shawarma | rmjb: Yes. | 05:26 |
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| Gloubiboulga | doesn't work... | 05:26 |
| rmjb | it worked! thanks Gloubiboulga | 05:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | great :) | 05:29 |
| rmjb | that -p option was not documented in the man page for dh_install anywhere | 05:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | it's a common debhelper option | 05:29 |
| rmjb | oh | 05:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | it should be in man debhelper | 05:30 |
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| rmjb | patch files must begin with a number? | 05:50 |
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| jdong | geser: thanks for your help on flexbackup; the latest upload works perfectly | 05:59 |
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| shawarma | Do you guys usually put anything speciel in the bug comment when setting the status to "Fix Released"? Perhaps the contents of the .changes file? | 06:20 |
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| shawarma | rmjb: Prepending a number makes it clear in which order the patches should be applied, so yes. | 06:22 |
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| rmjb | thanks for all you guys help with dh_install and patching | 06:36 |
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| Czessi | Hi, any MOTU here to review a package? | 07:03 |
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| tsmithe | anyone up for revu-age? | 07:35 |
| imbrandon | moins all | 07:36 |
| tsmithe | hi imbrandon | 07:36 |
| imbrandon | hello tsmithe | 07:36 |
| vil | hi, I need some help with modifying bug #68623. can I ask someone? | 07:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68623 in eclipse-pydev "pydev dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68623 | 07:37 |
| imbrandon | vil: sure modifying how? | 07:38 |
| vil | this bug applies rather to eclipse than to eclipse-pydev | 07:38 |
| vil | I already created bug in eclipse #72211 | 07:39 |
| vil | bug #72211 | 07:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 72211 in eclipse "Eclipse in Edgy, dependency problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/72211 | 07:39 |
| imbrandon | ahh then just reject the first one | 07:40 |
| vil | shall i mark it as duplicate or redirect it somehow to the new one? | 07:40 |
| somerville32 | Mark it as a duplicate, yes. | 07:40 |
| imbrandon | its not a dupe if it dosent effect that package, it should be rejected | 07:40 |
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| somerville32 | imbrandon: So, he should reject the first one, add an apply to the real pacakge, and mark as a duplicate | 07:41 |
| imbrandon | no | 07:41 |
| somerville32 | If the bug is the same, then it doesn't matter if the original bug reporter put it under the wrong package. | 07:42 |
| imbrandon | you are making it far two complicated, just reject the wrong bug, the new one is correct, leave as is | 07:42 |
| imbrandon | somerville32: yes it does | 07:42 |
| imbrandon | it matters alot when you goto search | 07:42 |
| somerville32 | imbrandon: Right, and all the data collected in the first bug will be lost. | 07:43 |
| somerville32 | *bug report | 07:43 |
| imbrandon | if i'm searching a packages bugs and i see a bug that dosent belong in that package ity should be rejected peroid | 07:43 |
| somerville32 | Right | 07:43 |
| imbrandon | somerville32: no it needs to be put into the new one | 07:43 |
| imbrandon | it wont be lost | 07:43 |
| imbrandon | not if the new bug is filed correctly | 07:43 |
| somerville32 | It isn't, thats the problem | 07:43 |
| imbrandon | well then fix the new bug, dont create more of a problem marking it a dupe when its not | 07:44 |
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| somerville32 | He needs to change the affected package in the first bug report and mark the second as a duplicate. | 07:44 |
| somerville32 | I thought he said that both bugs were the same | 07:44 |
| somerville32 | Just wrong package | 07:44 |
| imbrandon | omfg /me gives up, NO NO NO | 07:44 |
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| imbrandon | <detaches> | 07:44 |
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| imbrandon | somerville32: please talk to sflaw or someone on the triage teams about filing dupe reports, that is NOT the correct way | 07:45 |
| imbrandon | that is the lazy way that clutters LP | 07:46 |
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| somerville32 | vil, Can you join #ubuntu-bugs? | 07:46 |
| tsmithe | is there no-one free to revu? | 07:47 |
| tsmithe | :( | 07:47 |
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| tsmithe | guess not | 07:50 |
| imbrandon | tsmithe: i will later | 07:50 |
| tsmithe | yay! | 07:50 |
| tsmithe | thanks muchly | 07:50 |
| tsmithe | linky: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3725 | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | tsmithe: i'll poke dholbach too about a revu day | 07:51 |
| tsmithe | woot! | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | no link needed, i'll just browse revu , if its there we go though them as we have time :) | 07:51 |
| tsmithe | ? | 07:52 |
| imbrandon | ?? | 07:52 |
| tsmithe | jenda? | 07:52 |
| tsmithe | somerville32? | 07:52 |
| phanatic | lol | 07:52 |
| somerville32 | Nothing to see here folks, move along :P | 07:53 |
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| chantra | hi there | 08:02 |
| chantra | could somebody revu subtitleeditor http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3728 | 08:03 |
| chantra | so far 0.10.1 is in the repo, but 0.12.2 is much more faster | 08:03 |
| chantra | and there is a few more languages tranlated | 08:03 |
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| nixternal | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3729 | 08:25 |
| nixternal | ^^ revu | 08:26 |
| nixternal | gotta roll | 08:26 |
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| jaimevz | Any one here | 08:31 |
| geser | no | 08:32 |
| joejaxx | hello everyone :) | 08:32 |
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| Sp4rKy | hi there | 09:30 |
| tsmithe | hi | 09:30 |
| Sp4rKy | siretart: are you here ? | 09:30 |
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| siretart | wohoooo! | 11:15 |
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| === siretart is currenly printing his thesis. finally! | ||
| ajmitch | congrats :) | 11:15 |
| siretart | ajmitch: thanks! | 11:16 |
| Sp4rKy | siretart: hi | 11:16 |
| siretart | hey Sp4rKy | 11:16 |
| Sp4rKy | i just need you now :p | 11:16 |
| Sp4rKy | "my" revu has again a little issue | 11:16 |
| Sp4rKy | when i upload a package | 11:16 |
| shawarma | siretart: congrats. What's it about? | 11:16 |
| === siretart has terrible headaches now. it started when translating my abstract to english. no idea if/how that's related | ||
| Sp4rKy | siretart: i run process_uploads.sh | 11:17 |
| Sp4rKy | but the date of the repository name and the date made by the "now()" in pgsql DB are not the same | 11:18 |
| siretart | shawarma: http://paste.debian.net/18162 has the english abstract | 11:18 |
| Sp4rKy | because between the "DIR=${INCOMING}/${PACKAGE}-$(date +%y%m%d%H%M)" | 11:18 |
| Sp4rKy | and the "register_upload.py $changes" call | 11:19 |
| Sp4rKy | there is some seconds | 11:19 |
| Sp4rKy | siretart: any idea ? | 11:19 |
| Sp4rKy | (in fact, i don't understand who that can work :p) | 11:19 |
| Sp4rKy | you must have a very very fast computer | 11:19 |
| siretart | Sp4rKy: thats interesting. might be a locales problem, that on your system date and postgres disagree on the time? | 11:20 |
| shawarma | siretart: Interesting. | 11:20 |
| Sp4rKy | siretart: yep | 11:20 |
| Sp4rKy | whereas they're on the same server | 11:20 |
| Sp4rKy | siretart: but the 2 date are not done exactly at the same time | 11:20 |
| Sp4rKy | because the mv process take some seconds | 11:20 |
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| siretart | Sp4rKy: oh. that's bad. but the date shouldn't contain seconds, only minutes | 11:23 |
| Sp4rKy | yep, it does | 11:24 |
| Sp4rKy | (my mistake | 11:24 |
| Sp4rKy | ) | 11:24 |
| Sp4rKy | but the issue is the same | 11:24 |
| Sp4rKy | i don't really why , but the time isn't the same | 11:24 |
| Sp4rKy | really know why * | 11:26 |
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| jdong | is there any other way of getting wlanconfig and the other madwifi tools without using manual compilation? | 11:30 |
| shawarma | jdong: madwifi-tools? | 11:32 |
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| siretart | jdong: madwifi-tools is (surprinsingly) in universe | 11:32 |
| shawarma | jdong: ...assuming you're running Feisty. | 11:33 |
| jdong | ah, it's in Feisty | 11:33 |
| jdong | that's why I didn't see it | 11:33 |
| shawarma | siretart: Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? | 11:33 |
| jdong | siretart: sheesh not everyone runs feisty ;-) | 11:33 |
| jdong | and that is totally an apt-cache search bug that it doesn't match feisty source packages :D | 11:33 |
| jdong | does Dapper use madwifi-ng? | 11:34 |
| shawarma | jdong: Both are present in Dapper. | 11:34 |
| jdong | shawarma: which one is chosen out of the box? | 11:34 |
| shawarma | jdong: However, all devices supported by madwifi-old have been removed from the madwifi-ng in Dapper. | 11:34 |
| jdong | oh | 11:35 |
| jdong | bleh, why does setting up a repeater have to be so involved... :d | 11:35 |
| shawarma | jdong: hence: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/37773 | 11:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 37773 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 "[madwifi] Semi-random system lockups in Dapper" [Critical,Confirmed] | 11:35 |
| jdong | very interesting... | 11:36 |
| shawarma | jdong: Not really. Not if you own an X40, anyway. | 11:36 |
| jdong | what makes an X40 so special? | 11:37 |
| shawarma | jdong: It suffers badly from that bug. | 11:37 |
| jdong | oh | 11:37 |
| jdong | would Edgy work with madwifi-tools out-of-the-box? | 11:37 |
| shawarma | jdong: The attentive reader will note that I reported that particular bug. :-) | 11:37 |
| somerville32 | Question: Does Edgy follow the new python policy or is that in Feisty? | 11:37 |
| shawarma | jdong: I see no reason why not. I don't think the API for that has changed. | 11:37 |
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| jdong | shawarma: but would it work with Dapper? | 11:38 |
| shawarma | jdong: I believe so. | 11:38 |
| jdong | shawarma: doesn't madwifi-tools need the madwifi-ng style drivers? | 11:38 |
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| jdong | or am I making things up? | 11:38 |
| shawarma | jdong: Well, in that bug I linked to, I describe how to use madwifi-ng instead of madwifi-old in which case you can use the same tools. | 11:39 |
| shawarma | jdong: I don't really know if the API for *that* changed in the -old -> -ng transition. | 11:39 |
| jdong | ok, thanks shawarma | 11:40 |
| shawarma | any time. | 11:40 |
| jdong | I think I'll just set the repeater box up as Edgy anyway | 11:40 |
| jdong | I feel daring today | 11:40 |
| jdong | (and no not feisty-daring) | 11:41 |
| shawarma | Heh.. | 11:41 |
| shawarma | On my particular laptop, Edgy was a *lot* more stable than Dapper. | 11:41 |
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| jdong | shawarma: I'm working with 5-7 year old hardware here with the majority of hardware supported since the 2.2 kernel | 11:42 |
| jdong | :D | 11:42 |
| shawarma | :-) | 11:43 |
| jdong | now to find a CD lying around that can do a minimal inst | 11:43 |
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