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| LaserJock | pitux: regarding your eariler question, generally adding any 3rd party software will make the system lest stable overall | 01:54 |
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| LaserJock | pitux: but a package here or there generally isn't too bad as long as they have compatible dependencies and you watch thos packages during upgrades | 01:55 |
| LaserJock | pitux: what in particular are you interested in? | 01:55 |
| pitux | mainly a package call controlaula | 01:56 |
| LaserJock | ah | 01:57 |
| pitux | it's a vnc client for students in school | 01:57 |
| LaserJock | I've heard of it | 01:57 |
| pitux | can you see more information here | 01:59 |
| pitux | Linex developed alot of applications | 02:00 |
| pitux | http://www.itais.net/controlaula/ | 02:00 |
| pitux | educational applications... very interesting | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | I think we used linex packages for squeak | 02:00 |
| pitux | ahhhhh | 02:01 |
| pitux | good | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | we have a similar app to controlaula in Edubuntu called Student Control Panel | 02:01 |
| pitux | is possible integrate controlaula and other packages in edubuntu? | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | well, it's possible but sometimes it's not exactly easy | 02:02 |
| pitux | ok... beacuse are differents versions of package? | 02:03 |
| pitux | for example ubuntu and debian? | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | well, they might need to improved a little bit | 02:04 |
| LaserJock | Ubuntu and Debian have pretty decent quality and security standards | 02:04 |
| pitux | ahhhhhh ok I understand..... | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | I would think linex packages wouldn't need much but I'm not sure | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | I'm not saying anything against linex at all | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | but we find that often that packages coming from other sources need a little improvement before they enter the repos | 02:06 |
| pitux | I understand | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | pitux: have you used linex much? | 02:06 |
| pitux | I'm a teacher... math teacher | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | oh cool | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | I'm a chemist | 02:07 |
| pitux | I think that Linex is a good distro | 02:07 |
| LaserJock | or a PhD chemisty student rather | 02:07 |
| pitux | for teachers... and schools | 02:07 |
| pitux | it's eassier | 02:07 |
| pitux | I'm from Chile | 02:07 |
| pitux | where are you from LaserJock? | 02:09 |
| LaserJock | USA | 02:10 |
| pitux | ahhhh ok | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | I think the one of the reasons we don't have controlaula was it uses gambas | 02:11 |
| pitux | In the school where I work... we are using ubuntu | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | well, not have but use in Edubuntu | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | good to hear, how is that workin? | 02:12 |
| pitux | mmmm some problems with the users... mainly the compatibility with microsoft products | 02:12 |
| pitux | and other problems with the pendrives.... | 02:13 |
| pitux | but nothing special..... | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | I use edubuntu at the university and have similar issues with MS compatibility | 02:14 |
| pitux | yeah.... | 02:15 |
| pitux | the users don't understand about kind of files.... | 02:15 |
| pitux | ok LaserJock I have leave this chat | 02:16 |
| pitux | nice to meet you | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | yes, nice to meet you too | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | stop by again | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | if you have particular packages from Linex you'd like to see let us know | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | I must confese the language barrier has kept me from investigating it too much | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | *confess | 02:18 |
| pitux | ok LaserJock.... what topics do you review in your reseacrh? | 02:18 |
| pitux | sorry, but my english is not good.... | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | it's fine | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | I'm looking at molecule motors with lasers | 02:19 |
| pitux | wow | 02:19 |
| pitux | in this moment..... don't exist a particular packege from linex | 02:20 |
| pitux | because squeak is supported in edubuntu | 02:21 |
| pitux | for example.... can be interesting install geogebra by apt | 02:21 |
| pitux | and java too | 02:22 |
| pitux | linex has this options... this is very important for the teachers | 02:22 |
| pitux | ok LaserJock... see you later | 02:23 |
| pitux | I go to the bed... bye | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: you still around? | 02:24 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock: yep | 02:24 |
| LaserJock | do you have a feeling for when we might be able to get Java (enough to run Java apps) in Main? | 02:25 |
| LaserJock | I think Java would be pretty killer for Edubuntu | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: any thoughts? or are you totally digusted with the idea ;-) | 02:29 |
| Burgundavia | sure, when we get free java] | 02:29 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm not very in the know | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | is that going to be in any reasonable time? | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | I couldn't figure out what exactly was GPL'd | 02:31 |
| Burgundavia | we are talking feisty+1 I imagine | 02:42 |
| Burgundavia | everything was gpl | 02:42 |
| Burgundavia | but the code isn't there yet | 02:43 |
| LaserJock | I suppose that it would be naive to think they could just dump the code in a tarball and be done with it | 02:54 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 02:56 |
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| cbx33 | would planet be able to handle a google video embed on my blog? | 10:16 |
| highvoltage | it should do it fine | 10:21 |
| highvoltage | although if your blog is aggregated on any drupal aggregators, I don't think they handle it well | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | ahhh right | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | think I should avoid it? | 10:30 |
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| cbx33 | ping oge | 10:48 |
| cbx33 | ogra | 10:48 |
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| highvoltage | cbx33: nah, I don't think you need to avoid it, if some people have trouble seeing it they can just visit your blog | 12:02 |
| cbx33 | ok cool | 12:02 |
| cbx33 | thanks bud | 12:02 |
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| cbx33 | has anyone had any experience in setting up a radius/ads enterprise level wireless security | 01:05 |
| willvdl | not me | 01:09 |
| willvdl | i'm afraid | 01:09 |
| willvdl | only security exp i have is digging aspiked pit | 01:09 |
| cbx33 | wow | 01:12 |
| cbx33 | cool | 01:12 |
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| rodarvus | is this like, Windows ADS? :) | 01:21 |
| cbx33 | yes | 01:23 |
| rodarvus | (I was just kidding ;) ) | 01:25 |
| rodarvus | all I know is that the sysadmin at my previous job lost a very long time trying to setup this stuff | 01:26 |
| rodarvus | it seems it doesn't works quite well (or for all clients, at least) | 01:26 |
| cbx33 | :( | 01:28 |
| cbx33 | I have to set it up for the school | 01:28 |
| cbx33 | seems kinda overkill if you ask me | 01:28 |
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| rodarvus | indeed, this seems to be overkill for a school | 01:34 |
| rodarvus | I suppose machines willing to authenticate with the radius server will somehow need to be part of the 'domain' | 01:35 |
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| highvoltage | anyone else experiencing strangeness with the mailing list? (edubuntu-devel) | 01:53 |
| highvoltage | I sent a message last night but it didn't come back. | 01:53 |
| highvoltage | juliux also sent a message but I didn't receive it. | 01:54 |
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| cbx33 | rodarvus: indeed | 02:15 |
| cbx33 | they must be domain members hence the ads part ;) | 02:15 |
| cbx33 | awww planet strips out all embedded stuff | 02:15 |
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| willvdl | cbx33 ping | 03:00 |
| cbx33 | pong willvdl | 03:00 |
| willvdl | ola. Do you think ESA should be version specific? | 03:01 |
| cbx33 | yes | 03:01 |
| willvdl | i.e. different branches for different releases... | 03:01 |
| cbx33 | or parts of it definitely | 03:01 |
| cbx33 | it's becoming a sought after doc so I've seen | 03:01 |
| willvdl | yeah | 03:02 |
| cbx33 | everyone points to it, so we need to make sure it stays up to date | 03:02 |
| willvdl | I'm trying to work out how to maintain different versions in svn and h.u.c | 03:02 |
| cbx33 | right i see | 03:02 |
| willvdl | svn repo obviously uses branches for different releases | 03:03 |
| willvdl | which are automatically mapped to help.u.c | 03:04 |
| willvdl | and then the trunk maps to doc.u.c | 03:04 |
| cbx33 | hmmmm | 03:04 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 03:04 |
| willvdl | makes sense but I don't have the bandwidth at the mo to check :( | 03:05 |
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| cbx33 | argh | 03:06 |
| willvdl | okie, cbx33, will put up a planning page on Doc Team wiki (we don't currently have Edubuntu space there so I'll make one of those too) and then I'm still keen to try dotproject for tracking | 03:08 |
| cbx33 | good good | 03:08 |
| cbx33 | i'm all on board | 03:08 |
| willvdl | are you on marketing team? | 03:09 |
| cbx33 | nope | 03:09 |
| cbx33 | suppose i should be | 03:09 |
| willvdl | jsut thinking of expanding ESA into advocacy guides for users, admins, etc but am not sure if that should go to marketing or if only the final products should | 03:10 |
| cbx33 | hmmm | 03:10 |
| cbx33 | i agree it's needed | 03:10 |
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| willvdl | essentially they're docs...so doc team generates | 03:11 |
| cbx33 | there's no harm in community generation | 03:11 |
| cbx33 | doc team proofing | 03:11 |
| willvdl | but they're used for marketing...so marketing team inputs | 03:11 |
| cbx33 | sure | 03:11 |
| willvdl | moot point actually | 03:12 |
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| willvdl | thanks | 03:15 |
| willvdl | doc team proofing...makes sense | 03:15 |
| willvdl | edubuntu team generation | 03:15 |
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| cbx33 | shoud I join the marketting team willvdl ? | 03:39 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:49 |
| cbx33 | hey bddebian | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Hi cbx33 | 03:51 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 06:15 |
| cbx33 | hey sbalneav | 06:17 |
| sbalneav | Hello cbx33 | 06:17 |
| cbx33 | how are you havn't seen you for a long time | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | Was up north for a week or so. | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | Doing a big upgrade to Ubuntu Edgy | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | Now I'm having problems with nfs :( | 06:18 |
| cbx33 | ahhh nice | 06:18 |
| cbx33 | oh | 06:18 |
| cbx33 | :( | 06:18 |
| cbx33 | what kinda problems? | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | Well, I've got 2 LTSP servers | 06:19 |
| sbalneav | A and B, lets call 'em | 06:20 |
| sbalneav | Home dirs are all on A | 06:20 |
| sbalneav | NFS mounted to B | 06:20 |
| sbalneav | Everything works fine on A | 06:20 |
| sbalneav | B gets all kinds of "Stale NFS handle" messages. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. | 06:20 |
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| sbalneav | Argh | 06:40 |
| sbalneav | bug #62308 | 06:41 |
| sbalneav | !62308 | 06:41 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about 62308 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:41 |
| juliux | ubotu, malone | 06:41 |
| ubotu | launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ | 06:41 |
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| Dheeraj_k | can any body tell me is it unsfe to access net as root? if yes than why? | 06:48 |
| Burgwork | yes, but browser security is a lie basically | 06:49 |
| Burgwork | and if your browser get owned, it is running as root and thus you are owned | 06:49 |
| Dheeraj_k | can u pls provide me the link of any web site which has complete info? | 06:50 |
| Burgwork | sorry, nothing off the top of my head | 06:50 |
| sbalneav | Doing any kind of "user" activities as root (i.e. mail, browsing, etc) is a bad thing. | 06:56 |
| sbalneav | If there's a security bug in any program, you're running as root, which has the permissions to modify anything on the system. Always do your web browsing as a common user. | 06:57 |
| sbalneav | It's much much safer that way. | 06:57 |
| Dheeraj_k | actually this question has been asked by our Professor | 07:01 |
| Laser_away | sbalneav! | 07:04 |
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| sbalneav | hey hey | 07:04 |
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| Dheeraj_k | does it make system vulnerable to virus? | 07:05 |
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| Burgwork | not unless teh virus already affects linux | 07:06 |
| Dheeraj_k | i mean linux virus | 07:08 |
| Burgwork | it makes it easier for the virus to spread, now that it has root access | 07:08 |
| Dheeraj_k | ah thanx for the info :) | 07:13 |
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| stgraber | hi | 07:30 |
| LaserJock | hi stgraber | 07:32 |
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| pirast | ogra, hi | 07:38 |
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| les | Can anyone tell me how to block unwanted websites in edubuntu? | 11:38 |
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| Burgwork | willowng | 11:38 |
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| Burgwork | les ^ | 11:39 |
| les | willowng? | 11:39 |
| Burgwork | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=willowng | 11:40 |
| les | got it, thanks. I've been using kubuntu for a while now and plan on using edubuntu for the kids | 11:40 |
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