=== pitux [n=pitux@41-93-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [01:54] pitux: regarding your eariler question, generally adding any 3rd party software will make the system lest stable overall [01:55] pitux: but a package here or there generally isn't too bad as long as they have compatible dependencies and you watch thos packages during upgrades [01:55] pitux: what in particular are you interested in? [01:56] mainly a package call controlaula [01:57] ah [01:57] it's a vnc client for students in school [01:57] I've heard of it [01:59] can you see more information here [02:00] Linex developed alot of applications [02:00] http://www.itais.net/controlaula/ [02:00] educational applications... very interesting [02:00] yeah [02:00] I think we used linex packages for squeak [02:01] ahhhhh [02:01] good [02:01] we have a similar app to controlaula in Edubuntu called Student Control Panel [02:01] is possible integrate controlaula and other packages in edubuntu? [02:02] well, it's possible but sometimes it's not exactly easy [02:03] ok... beacuse are differents versions of package? [02:03] for example ubuntu and debian? [02:04] well, they might need to improved a little bit [02:04] Ubuntu and Debian have pretty decent quality and security standards [02:05] ahhhhhh ok I understand..... [02:05] I would think linex packages wouldn't need much but I'm not sure [02:05] I'm not saying anything against linex at all [02:06] but we find that often that packages coming from other sources need a little improvement before they enter the repos [02:06] I understand [02:06] pitux: have you used linex much? [02:06] I'm a teacher... math teacher [02:06] oh cool [02:07] I'm a chemist [02:07] I think that Linex is a good distro [02:07] or a PhD chemisty student rather [02:07] for teachers... and schools [02:07] it's eassier [02:07] I'm from Chile [02:09] where are you from LaserJock? [02:10] USA [02:11] ahhhh ok [02:11] I think the one of the reasons we don't have controlaula was it uses gambas [02:11] In the school where I work... we are using ubuntu [02:11] well, not have but use in Edubuntu [02:12] good to hear, how is that workin? [02:12] mmmm some problems with the users... mainly the compatibility with microsoft products [02:13] and other problems with the pendrives.... [02:13] but nothing special..... [02:14] yeah [02:14] I use edubuntu at the university and have similar issues with MS compatibility [02:15] yeah.... [02:15] the users don't understand about kind of files.... [02:16] ok LaserJock I have leave this chat [02:16] nice to meet you [02:16] yes, nice to meet you too [02:16] stop by again [02:17] if you have particular packages from Linex you'd like to see let us know [02:17] I must confese the language barrier has kept me from investigating it too much [02:18] *confess [02:18] ok LaserJock.... what topics do you review in your reseacrh? [02:19] sorry, but my english is not good.... [02:19] it's fine [02:19] I'm looking at molecule motors with lasers [02:19] wow [02:20] in this moment..... don't exist a particular packege from linex [02:21] because squeak is supported in edubuntu [02:21] for example.... can be interesting install geogebra by apt [02:22] and java too [02:22] linex has this options... this is very important for the teachers [02:23] ok LaserJock... see you later [02:23] I go to the bed... bye [02:24] Burgundavia: you still around? [02:24] LaserJock: yep [02:25] do you have a feeling for when we might be able to get Java (enough to run Java apps) in Main? [02:26] I think Java would be pretty killer for Edubuntu [02:29] Burgundavia: any thoughts? or are you totally digusted with the idea ;-) [02:29] sure, when we get free java] [02:31] well, I'm not very in the know [02:31] is that going to be in any reasonable time? [02:31] I couldn't figure out what exactly was GPL'd [02:42] we are talking feisty+1 I imagine [02:42] everything was gpl [02:43] but the code isn't there yet [02:54] I suppose that it would be naive to think they could just dump the code in a tarball and be done with it [02:56] yes === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === Elwell [n=andrew@87.127.71.46] has joined #edubuntu === Elwell [n=andrew@87.127.71.46] has joined #edubuntu === Elwell [n=andrew@87.127.71.46] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@190.41.6.201] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=th1a@pool-72-87-80-48.prvdri.fios.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=th1a@pool-72-87-80-48.prvdri.fios.verizon.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-241-58-59.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@177.Red-83-54-74.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:16] would planet be able to handle a google video embed on my blog? [10:21] it should do it fine [10:22] although if your blog is aggregated on any drupal aggregators, I don't think they handle it well [10:30] ahhh right [10:30] think I should avoid it? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [10:48] ping oge [10:48] ogra === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@190.41.6.201] has joined #edubuntu [12:02] cbx33: nah, I don't think you need to avoid it, if some people have trouble seeing it they can just visit your blog [12:02] ok cool [12:02] thanks bud === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@cm77-160.liwest.at] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [01:05] has anyone had any experience in setting up a radius/ads enterprise level wireless security [01:09] not me [01:09] i'm afraid [01:09] only security exp i have is digging aspiked pit [01:12] wow [01:12] cool === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@cm77-160.liwest.at] has joined #edubuntu [01:21] is this like, Windows ADS? :) [01:23] yes [01:25] (I was just kidding ;) ) [01:26] all I know is that the sysadmin at my previous job lost a very long time trying to setup this stuff [01:26] it seems it doesn't works quite well (or for all clients, at least) [01:28] :( [01:28] I have to set it up for the school [01:28] seems kinda overkill if you ask me === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-42-238.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === pitux_ [n=pitux@113-28-118.adsl.cust.tie.cl] has joined #edubuntu [01:34] indeed, this seems to be overkill for a school [01:35] I suppose machines willing to authenticate with the radius server will somehow need to be part of the 'domain' === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:53] anyone else experiencing strangeness with the mailing list? (edubuntu-devel) [01:53] I sent a message last night but it didn't come back. [01:54] juliux also sent a message but I didn't receive it. === highvoltage sends a test message [02:15] rodarvus: indeed [02:15] they must be domain members hence the ads part ;) [02:15] awww planet strips out all embedded stuff === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [03:00] cbx33 ping [03:00] pong willvdl [03:01] ola. Do you think ESA should be version specific? [03:01] yes [03:01] i.e. different branches for different releases... [03:01] or parts of it definitely [03:01] it's becoming a sought after doc so I've seen [03:02] yeah [03:02] everyone points to it, so we need to make sure it stays up to date [03:02] I'm trying to work out how to maintain different versions in svn and h.u.c [03:02] right i see [03:03] svn repo obviously uses branches for different releases [03:04] which are automatically mapped to help.u.c [03:04] and then the trunk maps to doc.u.c [03:04] hmmmm [03:04] yeh [03:05] makes sense but I don't have the bandwidth at the mo to check :( === willvdl can only get EDGE connection and is sitting on the roof [03:06] argh [03:08] okie, cbx33, will put up a planning page on Doc Team wiki (we don't currently have Edubuntu space there so I'll make one of those too) and then I'm still keen to try dotproject for tracking [03:08] good good [03:08] i'm all on board [03:09] are you on marketing team? [03:09] nope [03:09] suppose i should be [03:10] jsut thinking of expanding ESA into advocacy guides for users, admins, etc but am not sure if that should go to marketing or if only the final products should [03:10] hmmm [03:10] i agree it's needed === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEF375.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] essentially they're docs...so doc team generates [03:11] there's no harm in community generation [03:11] doc team proofing [03:11] but they're used for marketing...so marketing team inputs [03:11] sure [03:12] moot point actually === SimonAnibal_ [n=sruiz@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu [03:15] thanks [03:15] doc team proofing...makes sense [03:15] edubuntu team generation === SimonAnibal [n=simon@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-142-70.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.248.239.219] has joined #edubuntu [03:39] shoud I join the marketting team willvdl ? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:49] Heya [03:50] hey bddebian [03:51] Hi cbx33 === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === MrGreen [n=MrGreen@client-82-27-238-0.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEF375.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEF375.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [06:15] Morning all [06:17] hey sbalneav [06:17] Hello cbx33 [06:18] how are you havn't seen you for a long time [06:18] Was up north for a week or so. [06:18] Doing a big upgrade to Ubuntu Edgy [06:18] Now I'm having problems with nfs :( [06:18] ahhh nice [06:18] oh [06:18] :( [06:18] what kinda problems? [06:19] Well, I've got 2 LTSP servers [06:20] A and B, lets call 'em [06:20] Home dirs are all on A [06:20] NFS mounted to B [06:20] Everything works fine on A [06:20] B gets all kinds of "Stale NFS handle" messages. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [06:40] Argh [06:41] bug #62308 [06:41] !62308 [06:41] Sorry, I don't know anything about 62308 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:41] ubotu, malone [06:41] launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === Dheeraj_k [n=dheeraj@203.145.159.37] has joined #edubuntu [06:48] can any body tell me is it unsfe to access net as root? if yes than why? [06:49] yes, but browser security is a lie basically [06:49] and if your browser get owned, it is running as root and thus you are owned [06:50] can u pls provide me the link of any web site which has complete info? [06:50] sorry, nothing off the top of my head [06:56] Doing any kind of "user" activities as root (i.e. mail, browsing, etc) is a bad thing. [06:57] If there's a security bug in any program, you're running as root, which has the permissions to modify anything on the system. Always do your web browsing as a common user. [06:57] It's much much safer that way. [07:01] actually this question has been asked by our Professor [07:04] sbalneav! === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [07:04] hey hey === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@190.41.6.201] has joined #edubuntu [07:05] does it make system vulnerable to virus? === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [07:06] not unless teh virus already affects linux [07:08] i mean linux virus [07:08] it makes it easier for the virus to spread, now that it has root access [07:13] ah thanx for the info :) === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-78-47.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [07:30] hi [07:32] hi stgraber === pirast [n=martin@p508B2A20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [07:38] ogra, hi === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-77-8.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === suchix [i=sucha@antilope.in-berlin.de] has joined #edubuntu === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@wservices.ch] has joined #edubuntu === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === bronze [n=Lester@c-71-233-244-55.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === shiv [n=shiv@c-65-96-200-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === FunnyHat is now known as FunnyLookinHat === martin__ [n=martin@p508B2A20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.21.97] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-108.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-42-109.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-145.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-155-215.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === les [n=les@12-214-168-84.client.mchsi.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:38] Can anyone tell me how to block unwanted websites in edubuntu? === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-42-241.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:38] willowng === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [11:39] les ^ [11:39] willowng? [11:40] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=willowng [11:40] got it, thanks. I've been using kubuntu for a while now and plan on using edubuntu for the kids === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu