| manchicken | It's not actually the build... | 12:23 |
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| manchicken | Bloody permissions problem it seems... | 12:43 |
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| manchicken | nothing fakeroot can't handle. | 12:45 |
| manchicken | Okay, so how do I get something signed? | 12:49 |
| ryanakca | manchicken: gpg? | 12:55 |
| ryanakca | !gpg | manchicken | 12:56 |
| ubotu | manchicken: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto | 12:56 |
| manchicken | right, but I'm talking specifically about signing packages.... | 12:57 |
| ryanakca | ah, debuild -S -sa | 12:58 |
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| manchicken | Man, kde-systemsettings is a rather confusing codebase. | 01:51 |
| manchicken | Looks like it's generating its UI based off of a .rc XML file. | 01:51 |
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| manchicken | Anybody know how to dchroot as another user? | 02:30 |
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| manchicken | Okay, so the setupGUI flexability that folks are used to with kde-systemsettings is no more. | 02:55 |
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| Jucato | kool! danimo's password patch works perfectly in feisty :) | 03:17 |
| freeflying | Jucato: password patch? | 03:27 |
| Jucato | displays dots instead of asterisks when typing in the password | 03:27 |
| Hawkwind | Why would you want dots instead of *'s ? | 03:27 |
| Hawkwind | What's the purpose | 03:28 |
| Jucato | asterisks look soo old? :) | 03:29 |
| Jucato | looks better on the GUI. anyway it only affects KDE styles (plastik, I think). so you don't have to worry :P | 03:30 |
| Hawkwind | Jucato: I do agree that the dots do look better | 03:48 |
| Hawkwind | I just didn't understand why the patch was done other than just for that very reason | 03:48 |
| Jucato | actually I think it was also a sort of "proof of concept" that it could be done in Qt 3. danimo previously thought it could only be done in Qt 4 (which he already did for KDE 4 I think) | 03:49 |
| Jucato | not really sure though | 03:49 |
| manchicken | If this thing compiles I will be surprised to say the least. | 03:49 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 08:08 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: ping ? | 08:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just saw you finally did the minute yesterday... I was not at home this WE (didn't knew that on friday) so I did this offline.... | 08:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just posted it | 08:08 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: pong | 08:12 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hey :) | 08:16 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: the french way to get a laptop didn't work.... | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: still possible to do that with your help ? I'll place the order correctly this time :) | 08:17 |
| imbrandon | sure | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: can you email me your postal address then ? I lost it :) | 08:18 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: tonio at ubuntu.com | 08:18 |
| imbrandon | np, yup | 08:18 |
| Tonio_ | thanks ;) | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: how is the new job ? | 08:19 |
| imbrandon | great, was busy as hell getting used to the new schedule but now its all smoothed out | 08:19 |
| imbrandon | ( and i'm off the next 3 days , i just got off a 12 hour shift heh ) | 08:20 |
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| imbrandon | what did you and raphink get ? /me looks at the title , sorry i've been kinda afk the last week or so | 08:21 |
| imbrandon | heh | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: we both are engaged :) | 08:22 |
| crimsun | they're getting married. | 08:22 |
| crimsun | not to each other. | 08:22 |
| imbrandon | ohh rock on, congrats | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | hehe, hi crimsun | 08:22 |
| imbrandon | hehehe | 08:22 |
| crimsun | hi. | 08:22 |
| imbrandon | heya crimsun | 08:22 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: congratulations :) | 08:23 |
| imbrandon | yea i like the hours, i work two 12 hour shifts and 2 8 hour ones and get 3 days in a row off, plus i get time at work to work on {k}ubuntu | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: thanks :) | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: that's trully great, really | 08:24 |
| imbrandon | ( while at work ) | 08:24 |
| imbrandon | plus free rackspace for colo boxes :) | 08:24 |
| imbrandon | i just put my first one up yesterday and i'm migrating some things to it | 08:25 |
| imbrandon | see now it wont be long Tonio_ untill it truely is "papa Tonio_ " | 08:27 |
| imbrandon | :) | 08:27 |
| Lure | imbrandon: lol | 08:27 |
| imbrandon | hehe heay Lure | 08:27 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: still working hardly on that, indeed :) | 08:28 |
| imbrandon | :) | 08:28 |
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| sebas | Riddell: Were there any updates on kdepim lately? | 11:06 |
| sebas | I'm losing email with dimap for a few days already, seemingly random, sometimes whole folders are empty at once. | 11:06 |
| sebas | (Using kmail, of course) | 11:08 |
| Riddell | sebas: there's not been any updates | 11:27 |
| Riddell | although dimap is known not to be the most stable part of kmail | 11:27 |
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| sebas | Riddell: Well, haven't had that problem ever | 11:34 |
| sebas | I'll look into it some more, thanks though | 11:34 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:49 |
| Jucato | Boo | 03:50 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:50 |
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| fdoving | Riddell: ping? around for a kopete upload to edgy-updates? | 05:05 |
| Riddell | fdoving: oh? | 05:12 |
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| fdoving | Riddell: bug 69583 aging period is finished. | 05:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 69583 in kopete "SRU: kopete can't connect to ICQ. " [Low,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69583 | 05:13 |
| fdoving | Riddell: i'm preparing the files now. | 05:13 |
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| Riddell | cool | 05:15 |
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| mhb | good evening | 05:27 |
| doelman | hi mhd | 05:28 |
| mhb | hi doelman, pleased to meet you :o) | 05:30 |
| doelman | nice to meet you too:) | 05:30 |
| doelman | :p | 05:30 |
| doelman | oops | 05:30 |
| fdoving | Riddell: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/edgy/updates/kopete/ - please upload and comment on bug 69583 when done. thanks :) | 05:33 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 69583 in kopete "SRU: kopete can't connect to ICQ. " [Low,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69583 | 05:33 |
| Riddell | fdoving: done, thanks | 05:37 |
| mhb | thanks to both of you | 05:49 |
| mhb | I've been waiting for that for a long time :o) | 05:50 |
| Riddell | it still has to pass NEW again | 05:52 |
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| gnomefreak | wasnt amarok 1.4.4 backported for dapper? | 06:57 |
| gnomefreak | or is it that one that wont run on dapper :( | 06:57 |
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| nixternal | i have been playing with OpenSUSE 10.2 w/ KDE today, and there are a couple of things that are pretty nice which might be cool in Kubuntu | 07:12 |
| nixternal | Kickoff isn't one of them after playing with it imho | 07:12 |
| jdong | nixternal: like say an attractive bootsplash? | 07:12 |
| jdong | (just kidding!) | 07:12 |
| nixternal | haha | 07:12 |
| jdong | nixternal: I too did not like kickoff | 07:12 |
| nixternal | the bootsplash is a x-mas theme | 07:12 |
| nixternal | that tripped me out | 07:12 |
| jdong | nixternal: kickoff was clunky to use for me... it definitely didn't make suse easier to use for me | 07:12 |
| nixternal | i had penguins in santa hats running across my snow & ice covered grub menu | 07:12 |
| jdong | I did like the sysinfo:/ view though | 07:12 |
| jdong | nixternal: that's an easter egg | 07:12 |
| nixternal | kickoff is smooth for me, just not practical | 07:13 |
| jdong | nixternal: it happens once every n% of grub installcd boots | 07:13 |
| nixternal | the KHelpCenter owns us hardcore and their My Computer/Konqueror frontpage rocks | 07:13 |
| jdong | nixternal: +1 on the My Computer | 07:14 |
| jdong | nixternal: that is a sweet view | 07:14 |
| nixternal | i remember people complaining about Kubuntu print config, theirs is even worse..i had to use http://localhost:631 just to install a smb printer | 07:14 |
| jdong | really? | 07:14 |
| jdong | YaST didn't do it? | 07:14 |
| fdoving | nixternal: My Computer is the sysinfo:/ kioslave? | 07:14 |
| jdong | fdoving: yes | 07:14 |
| fdoving | .. I have a started package of that somehwere.. | 07:15 |
| nixternal | ya, YaST sucks for print configuring samba shares | 07:15 |
| jdong | nixternal: hmm, when I used SuSE before Ubuntu I used YaST to do that | 07:15 |
| nixternal | and you can really search application manuals with KHelpCenter, which is a huge plus | 07:15 |
| jdong | nixternal: I know by default they set up CUPS as a client-only | 07:15 |
| jdong | which is really strange if you ask me | 07:15 |
| nixternal | jdong: i tried yast for it, but it would come back with a print$ for the queue and it would fail during eveyr test | 07:16 |
| nixternal | i like the yast layout a little better than sys settings i think...again imho | 07:16 |
| nixternal | kerry beagle is a champ in suse as well...cool how it works with everything | 07:17 |
| jdong | nixternal: also YaST is significantly faster in 10.2 than when I used it before | 07:18 |
| jdong | there used to be really noticeable lag launching every applet | 07:18 |
| nixternal | ya, it is super fast i noticed | 07:18 |
| jdong | the entire KDE actually was quite snappy | 07:18 |
| nixternal | overall it is a pretty responsive system | 07:18 |
| jdong | DT_GNU_HASH is enabled too, IIRC | 07:18 |
| nixternal | nice | 07:18 |
| jdong | yes, it is. In the huge changelog | 07:18 |
| mhb | have I gone to #opensuse all of the sudden? :o) | 07:19 |
| jdong | lol | 07:19 |
| jdong | one thing that really bothered me | 07:19 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:19 |
| jdong | was how hard you had to work to get restricted codecs | 07:19 |
| nixternal | it is good to try other kde distros to see what you can learn | 07:19 |
| jdong | no need to give me an RMS speech | 07:19 |
| Riddell | ooh, k3b 1.0 rc 1 | 07:19 |
| nixternal | restricted codecs worked from the beginning, they even tell you how to install win32codecs | 07:19 |
| jdong | nixternal: huh? really? | 07:19 |
| jdong | nixternal: I had to go digging around for pacman and other repos | 07:20 |
| nixternal | ya, you can enable the non-oss repos on install | 07:20 |
| jdong | not non-oss | 07:20 |
| nixternal | i downloaded and played an mp3 w/o installing anything | 07:20 |
| jdong | they castrated xine's decoders except for like vorbis and theora | 07:20 |
| jdong | nixternal: that's because realplayer handles mp3's | 07:20 |
| jdong | nixternal: try a xvid video and you'll hit a brick wall | 07:20 |
| jdong | nixternal: you have to go out for 3rd party xine-lib | 07:21 |
| Riddell | jdong: fancy backporting cmake? (and subversion 1.4 when it's in), KDE developers are asking me for them | 07:21 |
| nixternal | i don't even see real player, and it played the mp3 through kaffeine and amarok | 07:21 |
| jdong | Riddell: the backport is already approved but ubuntu-archive is being slow :) | 07:21 |
| nixternal | no wonder i couldn't find libxine-extracodecs | 07:21 |
| Riddell | jdong: there's a new cmake | 07:21 |
| jdong | Riddell: 2.4? or even newer? | 07:21 |
| jdong | nixternal: amarok has been patched to do its playback thru realplayer | 07:21 |
| Riddell | jdong: 2.4.5 (up from 2.4.4) | 07:21 |
| jdong | nixternal: so has most of the other stuff | 07:21 |
| jdong | Riddell: ah ok, will take a look | 07:21 |
| nixternal | ahhh | 07:21 |
| Riddell | thanks jdong | 07:22 |
| mhb | Riddell: ubiquity and hwdb python scripts are able to use both KDE & GNOME libs ... is there a python library/class that is able to produce similar DE-independent code? Or how do you do it? | 07:22 |
| jdong | nixternal: but as I said, try any other format ;-) | 07:22 |
| nixternal | m4a didn't work | 07:22 |
| jdong | nixternal: including unencrypted mpeg2 dvd's | 07:22 |
| jdong | nixternal: ha! you make me laugh ;-) | 07:22 |
| Riddell | mhb: no, and the duplicate a lot of code. hwdb especially is pretty much two implementations of the same thing | 07:22 |
| jdong | nixternal: it takes around 6 3rd party repos to get our equivalent of apt-get install libxine-extracodecs | 07:22 |
| nixternal | so i am noticing now | 07:22 |
| jdong | that'd be my ONLY complaint about OpenSuse | 07:22 |
| nixternal | wth, it won't play anything but ogg and mp3 | 07:22 |
| nixternal | however, opensuse is not newb friendly if you ask me | 07:23 |
| Lure | nixternal: I cannot believe that you like yast layout more than system settings... | 07:24 |
| jdong | nixternal: read their RestrictedFormats page | 07:24 |
| jdong | nixternal: RMS would be proud | 07:24 |
| nixternal | Lure: it has a smaller more concise layout that is topically devided | 07:24 |
| nixternal | it makes it easier finding some things | 07:24 |
| nixternal | Sax2 is very limited, but definitely better than previous releases | 07:24 |
| Lure | nixternal: for me it was vice versa... it was just suprising for me when you said it... | 07:25 |
| nixternal | it seems they have restricted alot of stuff with these newer releases, making it difficult to config via a gui | 07:25 |
| nixternal | then again, the only thing i use system settings for is print config, because the Kubuntu print config is far better than any others i have ever seen, on any os | 07:25 |
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| toma | except windows | 09:40 |
| Lure | toma? | 09:46 |
| nixternal | the keyboard autodetect in feisty on the alternate cd is goofy, it select jp for me | 09:58 |
| Lure | nixternal: yep, other reported the same... | 10:02 |
| crimsun | nixternal: (it's known) | 10:02 |
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| nixternal | roger, thanks | 10:16 |
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| ryanakca | They don't sell laptops without windows... | 10:21 |
| toma | ryanakca: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35610 | 10:26 |
| allee | ryanakca: DELL never forced me to do tests with windows before accepting a call. | 10:26 |
| ryanakca | toma: interesting | 10:27 |
| ryanakca | allee: ?? | 10:28 |
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| ryanakca | allee: but I'd probably still end up paying for windows... | 10:29 |
| allee | ryanakca: with HP I had (long time ago) lot's of trouble with defect harddisk. They insistent me to anwser? What's the windows error msg? | 10:29 |
| allee | ryanakca: yes. | 10:29 |
| ryanakca | allee: meh... I don't have money to waste... I've been saving up for a year now... still don't have enough... | 10:29 |
| ryanakca | my annual income = almost nothing... < 1000$ | 10:30 |
| allee | ryanakca: k | 10:30 |
| toma | ryanakca: i can ship you a dual boot ;-) http://www.own-it.nl/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,17/category_id,6/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,1/ | 10:30 |
| ryanakca | allee: any companies to recomend? | 10:31 |
| ryanakca | toma: kk, just a sec :) | 10:31 |
| toma | its dutch anyhow ;-) | 10:31 |
| ryanakca | *tries to unscramble the random letters* 60gb hd, 512mb ram? | 10:31 |
| allee | ryanakca: I'm very happy with Dell. That's based on the fact that bad hardware support is excellent | 10:32 |
| ryanakca | AMD Sempron 3500+ CPU | 10:32 |
| ryanakca | allee: yeah... my cousin works for dell :) | 10:32 |
| ryanakca | 2nd or 3rd level tech support or something of the sort :) | 10:32 |
| allee | ryanakca: well then buy a Dell laptop via your cousin! | 10:33 |
| ryanakca | lol | 10:33 |
| ryanakca | I can try :) | 10:33 |
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| nixternal | how can i use qt4 on edgy with qmake? qmake is still tied into qt3 | 12:09 |
| nixternal | nm, qmake-qt4 | 12:10 |
| nixternal | yay, wrote my first qt4 app!!! | 12:11 |
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