[12:14] <soulrider> i need to see the partitions on /dev/sda
[12:14] <triki> soulrider: fdisk /dev/sda
[12:14] <triki> do that then, specify the device :P
[12:14] <soulrider> i get "cant open /dev/sda" =/
[12:15] <vado> Bonne nuit tout le monde
[12:15] <triki> then do a fdisk -l to see what's loaded
[12:15] <vieira> hi ppl
[12:15] <soulrider> i get nothing
[12:15] <kakalto> triki: does it require sudo?
[12:15] <vieira> need help to set a printer
[12:15] <hammer> same error
[12:15] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: Ok, I added "M" and now iwconfig tells me 54M but speeds keeps as low as 120 kbit
[12:15] <hammer> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:15] <hammer> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted
[12:15] <triki> try it with sudo
[12:15] <vieira> cant print from a windows machine to a kubuntu machine
[12:15] <hammer> i did
[12:15] <vieira> any thins
[12:15] <soulrider> ok
[12:15] <kakalto> hammer: one moment please =)
[12:16] <vieira> when i execute lpstat -p -d
[12:16] <soulrider> ah yes, works now
[12:16] <soulrider> but i need to get
[12:16] <vieira> i've this printer HP5510 is idle.  enabled since Sun 10 Dec 2006 11:31:42 PM WET
[12:16] <soulrider> the uuid or something like that
[12:16] <triki> try lpstat -P<printername>
[12:16] <hex_st0rm> when i try to install anything with adept or command line, i always get this error:There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[12:16] <triki> soulrider: what are you trying to do ?
[12:16] <vieira> triki: the jobs is sent i think but doesn't print
[12:16] <hex_st0rm> does anyone have any ideas?
[12:16] <soulrider> well
[12:16] <soulrider> i formated one of my partitions and splkit it
[12:16] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: There's a status page on the WRT config pages and it tells me that I'm connected with nominal 1Mbit/s :-(
[12:16] <soulrider> and now i cant boot properly
[12:17] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: hmm some google results I found stated that the bcm4311 card cant achieve fullspeed with the bcm43xx driver only with the ndiswrapper solution, but 120kbit is still a bit too low ...
[12:17] <triki> vieira: do you see them in queue ?
[12:17] <soulrider> i get some" cant access tty: job control not running"
[12:17] <soulrider> forums didnt help
[12:17] <vieira> triki: where can i check it?
[12:17] <Rob-West> if i torrent Kubuntu im stealing
[12:17] <soulrider> Rob-West: no
[12:17] <soulrider> kubuntu is free
[12:17] <hammer> theres 2 lines at the bottom that say universe do i add multiverse there to?
[12:17] <triki> vieira: lpq -P<printername>
[12:17] <Rob-West> i know
[12:18] <soulrider> Rob-West: theres torrents on the kubuntu site itself
[12:18] <Rob-West> i found then
[12:18] <vieira> triki: printer HP5510 is idle.  enabled since Sun 10 Dec 2006 11:31:42 PM WET
[12:18] <Rob-West> them*
[12:18] <soulrider> cool
[12:18] <triki> so nothing in queue
[12:18] <Rob-West> i love Linux
[12:18] <Rob-West> even though im new to it
[12:18] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: You mean if I tried the ndiswrapper solution it could get better?
[12:18] <vieira> triki: but i send but doesn't print, but only from windows machine
[12:18] <kakalto> hammer: "wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/edgy-plf/free/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf6.10_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf6.10_i386.deb"
[12:18] <vieira> triki: from my other kubuntu works just fine
[12:19] <triki> vieira: it should be in queue if print job was sent to linux shared printer.
[12:19] <hammer> http://pastebin.ca/274773
[12:19] <triki> there is an issue with smb printer share mayve
[12:19] <soulrider> triki: any ideas about my problem ?
[12:19] <triki> maybe permissions
[12:19] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: Well at least it is worth a try, though its not a very open-sourcy approach. Its quite easy to do though
[12:19] <Rob-West> im upgrading from normal ubuntu to Kubuntu
[12:19] <triki> can you ping the printer from windows box ?
[12:19] <vieira> triki: can u help me out i can't resolve it
[12:19] <vieira> triki: going to check
[12:19] <kakalto> hammer: you get that?
[12:20] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: this entry on the bcm43xx mailing-lists seems to describe the bug you have with your card too: http://www.mail-archive.com/bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de/msg02321.html
[12:20] <triki> vieira: ill try
[12:20] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: Quite easy?  Is there a tutorial or wiki page you ...
[12:20] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: Ok, thanks
[12:20] <hammer> new error lol
[12:20] <vieira> triki: i can ping the machine
[12:20] <hammer> package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[12:20] <kakalto> hammer, woops, gave ya the wrong link
[12:21] <vieira> triki: and when i open the prints windows it's say opening then ready
[12:21] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: Depends ... do you still have the windows firmware of your card on your hard-drive? ;)
[12:21] <vieira> i've add it with url adress
[12:21] <kakalto> hammer: "wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/edgy-plf/free/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf6.10_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf6.10_amd64.deb"
[12:21] <triki> vieira: how did you share the printer ?
[12:21] <kakalto> hammer: wait a minute...
[12:21] <kakalto> hammer: oh, no, that should work
[12:21] <vieira> triki: trying to remenber
[12:22] <triki> vieira: did you edit smb.conf file ?
[12:22] <vieira> triki: i've enable it in samba
[12:22] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: Yes, there's still a windowsXP install on /dev/sda2 ...
[12:22] <triki> just now ?
[12:22] <vieira> triki: yaps, them change cups
[12:22] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: (where I get full speed btw)
[12:22] <hammer> b e a u tfull
[12:22] <hammer> lol
[12:22] <vieira> triki: to be able to find the printer in the network
[12:22] <hammer> ty ty ty so much lol
[12:23] <kakalto> hammer: working now?
[12:23] <kakalto> hammer: have ya tried it?
[12:23] <hammer> yup
[12:23] <hammer> now to get my other toys
[12:23] <kakalto> hammer: hehe, good luck with all that amd64 business :-)
[12:23] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: hmmm might be too hard to find the firmware there ... you might try these drivers, which I use at the moment too: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/5822/
[12:24] <hammer> just need my vlc player then im set
[12:24] <triki> vieira: does windows find the printer share ?
[12:24] <hammer> love that player
[12:24] <vieira> yes
[12:24] <triki> hmm ok
[12:24] <vieira> triki: yes, because i put the http://ip:631
[12:24] <triki> ok could be permissions then
[12:25] <vieira> triki: maybe
[12:25] <vieira> triki: where should i look for permissions?
[12:25] <triki> you used http for url to print and not unc path ? \\ip:631
[12:26] <vieira> triki: used the http://myipserver:631/printers/myprintername
[12:26] <triki> can you browse to find your printer share on your linux box ?
[12:26] <triki> so then you're not really using samba
[12:26] <triki> sounds more like cups
[12:26] <vieira> triki: yaps :P
[12:26] <hex_st0rm> when i try to install anything...i get this error...There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. any ideas anyone? any help will be greatly appreciated.
[12:26] <triki> ahhh ok, i hate cups :P but lets see what we can do
[12:27] <vieira> triki: i've used samba to share my folders, but also config something in samba about printers
[12:27] <vieira> triki: i just want to put it working, if u can help me with samba...
[12:27] <triki> ya you can share printers with samba also
[12:28] <triki> i found a tutorial for setting up cups on ubuntu if you want to read through it
[12:28] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: when you grabbed files, make sure you have ndiswrapper installed: "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common", then cd to the directory the two files are. using "sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5a.inf" you can extract the firmware. "ndiswrapper -l" should print something like: "Installed ndis drivers: bcmwl5a driver present, hardware present" ... say when you did this
[12:28] <soulrider> argh! i need some help!
[12:28] <vieira> triki: i think i've no shared my printer in kubuntu box roght
[12:28] <vieira> *right
[12:28] <vieira> triki: with one
[12:28] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: Thanks, brb
[12:28] <flaccid> !sourcecode
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcecode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <triki> well on your windows box if you use Explorer and go to \\ip-of-linux-box, do you see and printers ?
[12:29] <flaccid> i have forgotten how to install the linux source code
[12:29] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: Do I have to uninstall bcm43xx first?
[12:29] <kakalto> flaccid: maybe something like linux-dev ?
[12:29] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: no
[12:29] <vieira> triki: i can see them but i think it's from cups not from samba
[12:30] <flaccid> nope
[12:30] <vieira> triki: hummm i've 3 itens about printers
[12:30] <triki> vieira: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163882
[12:30] <kakalto> flaccid: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source-2.6 libncurses5-dev kernel-package
[12:31] <kakalto> flaccid: second post down --->   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24853
[12:31] <flaccid> that would install a lot more than what i need
[12:31] <flaccid> its ok i'm done
[12:32] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: Mmh, I installed ndiswrapper-common w/o errors, but when I try to execute it => Error: no versions of ndiswrapper found!
[12:32] <jerusalem> Please, can anyone help me with my Kodak CD43 on Kubuntu 6.10? I am not able to work her on Kubuntu. When I turn it on, the computer call the Digikam program, but it does not work.
[12:32] <kakalto> flaccid: sorry if my help was inadequite, I don't actually use kubuntu ;-)
[12:32] <flaccid> its actually just a pcakge called linux-source
[12:32] <kakalto> but you need build-essential to compile anything
[12:32] <flaccid> hehe thats ok. you should help with only things you can help with.
[12:33] <flaccid> why would i need libncurses5-dev ?
[12:33] <flaccid> i also already have my own compilers..
[12:33] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: oh I thought ndiswrapper-common would be a meta-package, try to do a "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8" too
[12:33] <kakalto> flaccid: I dunno, that's just what that page said, hehe
[12:34] <kakalto> anyways, I better be off
[12:34] <flaccid> hehe... yeah. pages are often wrong in the interweb :)
[12:34] <kakalto> seeya
[12:34] <flaccid> cya
[12:34] <eilker> !zeroconf
[12:34] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[12:34] <hex_st0rm> no one has any ideas about my problem eh?
[12:34] <Rob-West> im about to turn to the Shipit free CDs
[12:35] <kakalto> flaccid: 'course, IMO, it's easier here - sources already installed ;-D
[12:35] <kakalto> Anyways.
[12:35] <kakalto> better not go therej
[12:35] <Rob-West> is there a difference in Kubuntu 6.10 and Kubuntu 6.06
[12:35] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: "bcmwl5a         driver installed"
[12:36] <jerusalem> Does anyone know how to work a Kodak CD43 on Kubuntu 6.10?
[12:36] <Rob-West> is there a difference in Kubuntu 6.10 and Kubuntu 6.06
[12:36] <triki> packages upgrades
[12:36] <Rob-West> im kinda limited on bandwitch
[12:36] <hammer> Rob 6.10 is newer
[12:37] <CoffeeShock> christane_: nice. now try to execute "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" and then "sudo ndiswrapper -m"
[12:37] <marco_> Anti-virus... is it really necessary?
[12:37] <Rob-West> my internet is being gay
[12:37] <hex_st0rm> so is adept
[12:37] <hammer> ived used 6.0 and n9w trying 6.10 and 6.10 seems better
[12:38] <christiane_> CoffeeShock: 'Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper'
[12:38] <Rob-West> i wish i could get a 6,10 CD
[12:38] <hammer> i seen on webpage something bout kde4?
[12:38] <Rob-West> but im having trouble downloading it
[12:38] <hammer> my oh my thats interesting
[12:38] <hammer> trouble...not getting a torrent copy are ya?
[12:38] <Rob-West> i am switching from Ubuntu to Kubuntu
[12:38] <hammer> kubuntu is way better
[12:38] <Rob-West> all the servers r slow
[12:39] <Rob-West> there pissing me off
[12:39] <hammer> ubuntu is gnome and kubuntu is kde
[12:39] <marco_> what is the the best media music player for ubuntu?
[12:39] <Rob-West> i like Amarok and Rythbox
[12:39] <hammer> coughs*i hate gnome
[12:39] <Rob-West> Rythmbox*
[12:39] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: very well. now execute the following commands: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/5823/
[12:39] <Rob-West> hammer can u make a copy of ur Kubuntu CD/DVD
[12:40] <Rob-West> id be greatfull
[12:40] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: this will just make sure the 2 drivers arent interfering
[12:40] <hammer> do u have amd64?
[12:40] <hammer> i only have 64 version
[12:40] <Rob-West> no
[12:40] <Rob-West> dang
[12:40] <Rob-West> i need it for i386
[12:40] <hammer> ya tell ya what tho ill see if i can grab it anyways i got a speedy connection
[12:41] <Rob-West> where u from
[12:41] <hex_st0rm> Please someone help me...when i try to install anything...i get this error...There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. any ideas anyone? any help will be greatly appreciated.
[12:41] <hammer> Rob u have a dvd rom tho right?
[12:41] <Rob-West> yea
[12:41] <hammer> ok
[12:41] <sercik> hi
[12:41] <Rob-West> i have a Dual Layer DVD burner
[12:43] <Rob-West> hammer thanks you will save me alot of time
[12:43] <CoffeeShock> christiane_: oops didnt see your last message ... okay and now for a final: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ... or just an up & down for the eth1 device if you are typing with the same computer here at the moment and dont want to kill off the connection
[12:43] <hammer> np
[12:43] <hex_st0rm> ?anyone?
[12:44] <hammer> just a few mins over 3hrs
[12:44] <Rob-West> wow
[12:44] <Rob-West> ill wait
[12:44] <blacknine> ?
[12:44] <triki> hex_st0rm: try this 'sudo aptitude install'
[12:44] <hammer> gotta love them canadians :)
[12:44] <blacknine> hola fuckwads
[12:44] <triki> eh ?
[12:44] <LjL> !language | blacknine
[12:44] <ubotu> blacknine: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:44] <hammer> lol
[12:45] <Rob-West> hammer can i PM you
[12:45] <blacknine> you accually think people bring thier kids here?
[12:45] <Rob-West> im a kid
[12:45] <triki> you never know
[12:45] <Rob-West> im 15 years old
[12:45] <hammer> i tried to get back to u i got an error something bout spam but i was just saying your welcome
[12:45] <triki> kids come on their own
[12:45] <blacknine> im 13
[12:45] <vieira> triki: can't resolve the problem :(
[12:45] <hammer> im 33
[12:45] <triki> 26
[12:45] <blacknine> thanks nice
[12:46] <Rob-West> hammer did u register
[12:46] <triki> vieira: hmm ok
[12:46] <hammer> you kids are way smarter at linux stuff then i am lol
[12:46] <christiane|eth0> CoffeeShock: Ok, removed bcm43xx, modprobed ndiswrapper ... and now?
[12:46] <triki> vieira: you can see printer, ping it, but can't print to it
[12:46] <vieira> triki: can't see what i've wrong
[12:46] <triki> vieira: i'm leaning towards permissions issue
[12:46] <triki> ok check logs :D
[12:46] <vieira> triki: where can i change them?
[12:47] <the_hammer> cool i didnt know i was reg'd
[12:47] <the_hammer> is this freenode?
[12:47] <triki> .../var/log/cups or something like that
[12:47] <Rob-West> yea
[12:47] <blacknine> f
[12:47] <blacknine> f
[12:47] <blacknine> ff
[12:47] <blacknine> f
[12:47] <blacknine> f
[12:47] <blacknine> f
[12:47] <blacknine> f
[12:47] <blacknine> ff
[12:47] <blacknine> f
[12:47] <Rob-West> im in the US
[12:48] <triki> CND
[12:48] <CaffeineX> christiane_: oops I think I timed out there
[12:48] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: Ok, removed bcm43xx, modprobed ndiswrapper ... and now?
[12:49] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: now you should just have to restart the network with "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" and test the result and hope everythings working
[12:51] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: :-(  There's no more eth1 in iwconfig's output.
[12:51] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: It even disappeared from `ifconfig -a`
[12:51] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: what is the output of ndiswrapper -l?
[12:52] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: "bcmwl5a      driver installed"
[12:53] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: its weird that its not saying "hardware present" too ...
[12:54] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: I did everey step exactly as you described ...
[12:54] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: Mmmmhhhhhhh ...
[12:54] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: is this another box which you could restart in the background while I google a second and btw. is it a laptop with a certain version number?
[12:55] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: It's a DELL Inspiron 6400
[12:55] <triki> when you do a ndiswrapper -l does it show device connected ?
[12:55] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: I'm here on another machine irc'ing
[12:56] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: okay try a reboot on the laptop then while I check some webpages about the lapot quick
[12:56] <christiane|eth0> triki, CaffeineX: ... still rebooting ...
[12:56] <triki> ok
[12:57] <triki> thought you were having the issue
[12:58] <mikelinux> Where can I optain,win32,mplayer,etc,Is there another repo I can add?
[12:58] <christiane|eth0> triki, CaffeineX: reboot done. lsmod shows bcm43xx again (didn't uninstall it). ifconfig shows eth1 (but not conected) and iwconfig too.
[12:58] <triki> universe multiverse
[12:59] <christiane|eth0> triki, CaffeineX: I'll do the rmmod modprobe thing again.
[12:59] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: the bcm43xx module thing is normal ... just rmmod it again and modprobe the ndiswrapper module
[12:59] <jongt> theres no way to get libdrm >=2.2 from apt?
[01:00] <christiane|eth0> triki, CaffeineX: Done. eth1 disappeared.
[01:00] <mikelinux> triki: I have them enabled but still no go
[01:01] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: can you please post what you get with "dmesg | grep ndis" ?
[01:02] <christiane|eth0> triki, CaffeineX: only one line (on the other machine, so I can't paste but it's something like) "... version 1.22 loaded ..."
[01:02] <tim> just installed a fresh breezy and can't get amarok to play mp3's, i installed gtreaer-mad and akode-mpeg and amaroak crashes on playing an mp3, any ideas?
[01:02] <CaffeineX> okay
[01:03] <christiane|eth0> !mp3 > tim
[01:03] <hex_st0rm> triki: sorry i was eating
[01:03] <rafa> Hello all
[01:04] <tim> christiane|eth0: thx
[01:04] <nAtic> heyo
[01:04] <tim> will check that out
[01:04] <rafa> anybody available to help with sound?
[01:04] <nAtic> just try to ask
[01:04] <rafa> ok...
[01:04] <nAtic> start with your hardware :] 
[01:04] <rafa> i discovered ubuntu about 2 months ago and i love it
[01:04] <rafa> still getting familira
[01:05] <hex_st0rm> i tried that and it didnt do anything really
[01:05] <rafa> the thing is all of a sudden my sound went dead
[01:05] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: first of all looks like you had bad luck and got a worse chip than most 6400 laptops ...
[01:05] <nAtic> yeah
[01:05] <nAtic> turn on the pcm
[01:05] <hex_st0rm> im pretty good with hardware...
[01:05] <rafa> im assuming my sound card has problems so im trying with a usb headset (plantronics) that used to wrok perfectly
[01:05] <nAtic> start kmix, and turn on the PCM
[01:06] <hex_st0rm> might be an issue with the drivers for the sound card
[01:06] <nAtic> it worked, it just died
[01:06] <nAtic> i had the same on my dell laptop
[01:06] <rafa> when i select it on the sound preferences as default..i can get the test sounds to work om the headset..i can even listen to the bootup sounds
[01:06] <rafa> but nothing else
[01:06] <nAtic> rafa: will you listen?
[01:06] <rafa> like videos on youtube and stuff..nothing works
[01:06] <hex_st0rm> lol
[01:06] <nAtic> WILL YOU?
[01:07] <rafa> ok im reading
[01:07] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: That's what I already found out. I already held a big we-hate-dell-for-not-delivering-what-promising party ...
[01:07] <nAtic> learn to type without watching your fingers on the keyboard
[01:07] <nAtic> <-- loves dell :] 
[01:07] <tim> ok, here's the deal, kaffience can play mp3's , but amarok just crashes
[01:07] <nAtic> <-- will trash his laptop before the insurance runs out
[01:07] <hex_st0rm> dells pretty good, i like buildin my own comps though
[01:07] <rafa> yes yes..sorry...how do i turn on pcm?
[01:07] <hex_st0rm> cheaper and stuff
[01:08] <nAtic> [01:04]  <nAtic> start kmix, and turn on the PCM
[01:08] <triki> tim: amarok doesn't play mp3's out of the box
[01:08] <hex_st0rm> natic, send it to me dude
[01:08] <tim> triki: i know, that's why i've installed gstreamer-mad
[01:08] <nAtic> no way
[01:08] <hex_st0rm> !mp3 > tim
[01:08] <nAtic> they will have to see, how hard my laptop accidently hit the floor
[01:08] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: heh ... okay ...;D ... but back to the issue ... is the laptop 64 bit?
[01:08] <rafa> mmmm....nATIC...mmm..how o i start kmix?
[01:09] <nAtic> ever thought of typing "kmix" into your console?
[01:09] <triki> tim: http://www.ubuntux.org/mp3-support-for-amarok
[01:09] <rafa> i did
[01:09] <hex_st0rm> hahahaha
[01:09] <rafa>  kmix
[01:09] <rafa> bash: kmix: command not found
[01:09] <nAtic> u are using kde, i hope?
[01:09] <hex_st0rm> triki, he could just install all the codecs
[01:09] <hex_st0rm> !mp3
[01:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:09] <hex_st0rm> the restricted formats one of those ^^^
[01:10] <mikelinux> ubotu: cheers
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <rafa> im using kde
[01:10] <nAtic> hey, does anybody remember howto switch from kde to gnome?
[01:10] <tim> i appreciate the suggestions, but i have already installed gstreamer-mad and amarok doesn't play mp3's, it just crashes
[01:10] <nAtic> install kmix then :P
[01:10] <nAtic> and run it (=
[01:11] <nAtic> rafa: what about the hardware?
[01:11] <rafa> ok...ill do...
[01:12] <nAtic> i am not using kubuntu... what package manager does kubuntu use?
[01:12] <nAtic> may i run smart with it?
[01:12] <nAtic> or is this... synaptic a better choise?
[01:12] <hex_st0rm> adept nAtic
[01:12] <rafa> well..at this point i dont even care about my sound card..ill use the plantronics...everything was working fine one day ...i plugged my audio output to my setereo and listened to music for hours..when i finished ..on next reboot..it was all gone
[01:12] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: hmm unfortunately I cant find much on the issue with ndiswrapper not finding the hardware ... I think you will have to grab the latest ndiswrapper (I think it is 1.22) and compile it from source.
[01:13] <hex_st0rm> im not fond of synaptic because it freezes when you try to search for anything
[01:13] <nAtic> adept is the name of the package manager?
[01:13] <hex_st0rm> yes
[01:13] <nAtic> kay kay, i'll try to remember
[01:13] <hex_st0rm> !adept
[01:13] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:13] <nAtic> (=
[01:13] <hex_st0rm> ^_^
[01:13] <nAtic> and what is this... still rpm?
[01:13] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: omfg
[01:14] <nAtic> or deb o0
[01:14] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: dmesg told me that version 1.22 successfully loaded
[01:14] <nAtic> and how the hack do i change kde to gnome? *g*
[01:15] <nAtic> i have both installed
[01:15] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: hmm what does "ndiswrapper -v" say?
[01:15] <MattSG> anyone know why my wireless connection isn't connecting at startup?
[01:15] <nAtic> using ifup?
[01:15] <nAtic> ndiswrapper?
[01:15] <rafa> nAtic...mmm
[01:16] <rafa> u know..i think im using gnome..not kde
[01:16] <hex_st0rm> im tryin to find how to change nAtic
[01:16] <MattSG> I'm using a broadcom card
[01:16] <nAtic> rafa: there is another way to turn the volume up, but i can't remember
[01:16] <hex_st0rm> trying to figure out apache at the same time
[01:16] <MattSG> and using the thing on KDE to set up the connection
[01:16] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: Oh I figured that the newest version is indeed installed by ubuntu so thats fine ...
[01:16] <nAtic> hex_st0rm: i knew this once... years ago... how to get away from xfree86 back to the shell, and stuff... but i can't remember
[01:16] <nAtic> :] 
[01:16] <rafa> not the /system/preferences/sound, right?
[01:16] <hex_st0rm> lol
[01:17] <hex_st0rm> sounds awsome
[01:17] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: 3 lines: utils error: no version specified   \n   driver version: 1.22   \n   vermagic: 2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 ...
[01:17] <MattSG> and how do I set my default sound card? I tried to use asoundsonf, but it keeps using my internal speakers
[01:17] <nAtic> you have two of them?
[01:17] <nAtic> *g*
[01:17] <hex_st0rm> gah i dont know how to open apache
[01:17] <hex_st0rm> or configure it
[01:18] <hex_st0rm> just installed it with adept
[01:18] <nAtic> you should check out the config
[01:18] <nAtic> and add it to your runlevel
[01:18] <nAtic> i did it with yast... but i don't think, there is such a thing with kubuntu :] 
[01:18] <hex_st0rm> you talkin to me nAtic?
[01:19] <nAtic> yep, hex_st0rm ... if you mean the apache issue :P
[01:19] <hex_st0rm> yes
[01:19] <hex_st0rm> i went to http://localhost
[01:19] <hex_st0rm> and its there
[01:19] <hex_st0rm> so im trying to learn it
[01:19] <nAtic> whats there?
[01:19] <hex_st0rm> i installed it with adept
[01:19] <christiane|eth0> hex_st0rm: Because sometimes/often onboard devices sound like crap
[01:19] <hex_st0rm> the test page
[01:19] <MattSG> Why doesn't KDE include a way to change soundcards? :(
[01:19] <nAtic> i don't know where... i forgot... but you should find the apache.conf
[01:19] <hex_st0rm> christian, it could also take some of the load off of the motherboard
[01:19] <nAtic> and edit it with kate, or kedit, or vi
[01:20] <hex_st0rm> k, i have kate
[01:20] <hex_st0rm> im actually thinking about switching distros
[01:20] <nAtic> MattSG: kde is not much about hardware
[01:20] <rafa> what i dont understand is...im telling the system to default to USB..but it keeps trying to send to my sound card
[01:20] <nAtic> yeah... i am using suse 10.1 and i am downloading kubuntu right now :] 
[01:20] <the_hammer> hex what distro ya wnana try or switch to?
[01:20] <MattSG> well, does anyone know how to change it? It doesn't seem to be working
[01:20] <Edulix> hi
[01:21] <the_hammer> i love trying new distros
[01:21] <nAtic> rafa: either you're talking dizzy stuff, or i am a linux newbie
[01:21] <hex_st0rm> nAtic, i've heard great things about suse
[01:21] <rafa> well..thanks all..im gonna reboot from live cd...just to see what happens
[01:21] <nAtic> what about mandrake
[01:21] <hex_st0rm> hammer: im thinking fedora
[01:21] <nAtic> yeah, i don't know about suse anymore
[01:21] <the_hammer> fedora is ok
[01:21] <nAtic> i am pretty new to linux, but...
[01:21] <the_hammer> i tried fedora core 6
[01:21] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: cna you say roughly what lspci | grep 4311 outputs? something like "... unknown device 4311" ?
[01:22] <hex_st0rm> same here nAtic, but im in a hardware class this year so its helping me out a lot
[01:22] <nAtic> my system works slower and even more slower... depends on how long the laptop is running
[01:22] <hex_st0rm> get more ram?
[01:22] <nAtic> 1 gig should be enough -.-
[01:22] <nAtic> ddr
[01:22] <the_hammer> ya then it would heat up faster hex lol
[01:23] <nAtic> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand, my suse dislikes xgl
[01:23] <nAtic> kororaa starts up fine
[01:23] <nAtic> but the suse installation of xgl is lagging
[01:23] <hex_st0rm> true hammer
[01:23] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: "Broadcom Corp... unknown device 4311 (rev 01)"
[01:23] <hex_st0rm> im debating if i wanna get a bass guitar or build a computer
[01:23] <Edulix> how it comes that gnome/gtk apps are not antialiased in my system? I've tried to give them kinds of fonts via kcontrol->gtk but all look not-aa
[01:23] <hex_st0rm> i already play guitar ...so idk
[01:24] <nAtic> bass is a lot of fun
[01:24] <hex_st0rm> yeah, i love my guitar
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[01:24] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:24] <hex_st0rm> lol sorry admiral...
[01:24] <hex_st0rm> nAtic, got msn so we dont have to bug these nice people?
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> hex_st0rm, it's all good
[01:24] <nAtic> peter@golovtchiner.de
[01:24] <hex_st0rm> k
[01:24] <nAtic> search me :P
[01:24] <nAtic> i am out for a smoke
[01:24] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: I just found a wiki entry saying "
[01:24] <christiane|eth0> n Ubuntu Edgy and the 2.6.17 kernels, the kernel module is enabled by default, but that kernel module does NOT provide stable support for the 4311 chipset. See the Broadcom 43xx Linux Driver: Supported Devices page!
[01:24] <christiane|eth0> Furthermore, the version of ndiswrapper in the Ubuntu repositories also fails to work with the version of driver and kernel I tried desperately to install.
[01:24] <nAtic> so...
[01:24] <nAtic> back in 5 minutes
[01:25] <Edulix> !ontopic
[01:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:25] <hex_st0rm> !pastebin > christianjeth0
[01:25] <Edulix> :P
[01:25] <hex_st0rm> !pastebin christiane|eth0
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin christiane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <hex_st0rm> gahhhh
[01:25] <christiane|eth0> hex_st0rm: 3 lines only :)
[01:25] <hex_st0rm> k lol
[01:25] <hex_st0rm> lagged me pretty bad though
[01:25] <the_hammer> try pastebin.ca
[01:25] <Edulix> !pastebin|christiane|eth0
[01:25] <ubotu> christiane|eth0: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <Edulix> :P
[01:26] <hex_st0rm> lol
[01:26] <the_hammer> hehe
[01:26] <Edulix> now, anyone knows about the aa-thingie in gtk apps? :P
[01:26] <hex_st0rm> never heard about it
[01:26] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: that sums it all up I guess ... I cant help you much there I guess. you can try to get a newer version of ndiswrapper up and running or to try different drivers ...
[01:27] <christiane|eth0> Sorry, thought there was a 3 lines rule (and didn't know that pasted new lines are sent immediatly in Konversation -- I'm used to XChat).
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Edulix, AA, like Alcoholic Annonymous?
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> because only people with major issues use GNOME
[01:28] <hex_st0rm> anyone know how to get people able to view my apache page?
[01:28] <Edulix> Admiral_Chicago: yeah like the batteries
[01:28] <triki> hex_st0rm: browse to the ip of that box using apache
[01:28] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: so you might want to remove all the ubuntu packages from ndiswrapper and try this tutorial: http://wiki.waningsun.net/index.php?title=Dell_E1405_%26_Linux_HOWTO
[01:28] <pplu> #kubuntu.es
[01:29] <hex_st0rm> triki: sorry im new to this and cant quite understand wha tyou mean
[01:29] <triki> if you're on the box put "http://localhost" in your browser
[01:29] <Edulix> pplu: hola yo hablo espagnolo
[01:29] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: That's the one I quoted ;-)
[01:29] <pacman> has anyone used the Sansa mp3 player?  Was wondering if anyone could help me out with it
[01:29] <MattSG> any easy way to get WMA and M4A support into Amarok?
[01:29] <triki> hex_st0rm: what is the ip address of the box that is running apache ?
[01:29] <christiane|eth0> !wma > MattSG:
[01:29] <hex_st0rm> 70.232.109.124
[01:29] <christiane|eth0> !wma > MattSG
[01:29] <triki> that is the ip of the box running apache ?
[01:30] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: Well maybe this will work ... Im sorry I couldnt help you much except from playing around with the drivers a bit ... I think I really have to go to bed now too ;P
[01:30] <triki> not an internal ip ?
[01:30] <hex_st0rm> ooooh
[01:30] <hex_st0rm> hang on
[01:30] <christiane|eth0> CaffeineX: Yes, 01:30 am here in arcor.de country -- Thanks.
[01:30] <hex_st0rm> 192.168.2.2
[01:30] <triki> hex_st0rm: put that ip into your browser
[01:31] <nAtic> hey, my issue is a lot more easy, i guess... howto change kde to gnome... both is installed
[01:31] <hex_st0rm> it took me to my apache page
[01:31] <triki> ;)
[01:31] <CaffeineX> christiane|eth0: yea, im using arcor too ... I hate them as much as dell ... anyways hang in there, I know wlan is always a hassle ... take care and good night!
[01:32] <hex_st0rm> but how can other people view it triki?
[01:32] <nAtic> forward the right port to your pc
[01:32] <triki> go into your router, and open port 80 and point it @ 192.168.2.2
[01:32] <nAtic> your router should be capable of dyn-dns or something...
[01:33] <DekKeD> anyone knows how to mount a video as if it was your webcam? It can be funny :P
[01:33] <nAtic> hehe
[01:33] <nAtic> DekKeD: i would also like to know
[01:34] <triki> you have apache runnig ?
[01:34] <nAtic> triki: i guess, he has
[01:34] <nAtic> otherwise the apache page wouldn't show up
[01:34] <hex_st0rm> i installed it
[01:34] <triki> does DekKeD
[01:34] <hex_st0rm> and i went to my router's page
[01:34] <hex_st0rm> and i clicked dns
[01:34] <hex_st0rm> and thats where im stuck
[01:34] <nAtic> by default, u have to put your webpages to /srv/htdocs/....
[01:34] <triki> no no
[01:34] <nAtic> or something
[01:34] <DekKeD> triki: you are talking to me?
[01:34] <triki> go to port forwarding
[01:35] <triki> DekKeD: you could use apache to stream it
[01:35] <nAtic> triki: this wouldnt work for messengers
[01:35] <DekKeD> triki: I have to install it first, give me a minute
[01:35] <hex_st0rm> i...cant...find ...port forwarding
[01:35] <DekKeD> nAtic: thats a problem :P
[01:36] <nAtic> yeah, right
[01:36] <triki> what router ?
[01:36] <hex_st0rm> belkin
[01:36] <hex_st0rm> ooh
[01:36] <hex_st0rm> i could go to portforwarding.com eh?
[01:36] <triki> lovely
[01:36] <triki> ya check that
[01:36] <hex_st0rm> k
[01:36] <nAtic> otherwise you would get the girl, that dumped you last week online and invite her on a video chat, and show her how you fuck another girl :] 
[01:36] <nAtic> with some random porn
[01:36] <nAtic> hrhr
[01:36] <triki> port 80
[01:36] <LjL> !panguage | nAtic
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panguage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <LjL> !language | nAtic
[01:37] <ubotu> nAtic: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:37] <DekKeD> nAtic: hahaha, it's actually to play jokes on some friends (males) :P
[01:37] <nAtic> -.-
[01:37] <LjL> !offtopic
[01:37] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:37] <nAtic> kay kay, i won't say the f-word anymore
[01:37] <nAtic> we got 15 year olds in here
[01:37] <nAtic> ;)
[01:38] <hex_st0rm> hhahaha
[01:38] <hex_st0rm> nAtic i cus more then you do man
[01:38] <nAtic> but how to stream a video through your messenger?
[01:38] <LjL> was -.- a smiley or an acknowledgment?
[01:38] <nAtic> as if it would be your webcam o0
[01:38] <nAtic> a smiley
[01:38] <triki> use vlc
[01:38] <triki> easy enough to use
[01:38] <Rob-West> the_hammer, im gonna try downloading the Kubuntu CD
[01:38] <nAtic> vlc can pipe it to your webcam device?
[01:38] <triki> vlc can stream video
[01:39] <DekKeD> same question
[01:39] <nAtic> yeah, great
[01:39] <DekKeD> but to webcam device?
[01:39] <DekKeD> :O
[01:39] <triki> audio
[01:39] <nAtic> but i don't want to stream video
[01:39] <triki> i think so
[01:39] <nAtic> i want my video conversation to NOT play my webcam, but show a video instead
[01:39] <triki> ohhhhh
[01:39] <LjL> nAtic: well, it's funny because it's also the letter K in morse, and just after you said "kay, kay"
[01:39] <nAtic> *g*
[01:40] <nAtic> a lot of freaks in here, heh, LjL
[01:40] <nAtic> :] 
[01:40] <hex_st0rm> lol
[01:40] <nAtic> thats what my mentor told me about unix/linux-people... they know everything
[01:40] <phobiac> nAtic, I think I know of a windows progream that can do that...
[01:40] <nAtic> true?
[01:40] <phobiac> It might be possible to set it up in wine. Let me see if I can even find it though.
[01:40] <DekKeD> phobiac: all Windows programs i have found are either too bad or shareware
[01:40] <DekKeD> :P
[01:40] <nAtic> this would be worth of booting windows
[01:41] <DekKeD> I doubt it, it works with Drivers
[01:41] <nAtic> yep
[01:41] <nAtic> me too
[01:41] <nAtic> btw... how is wine running with kubuntu?
[01:41] <nAtic> it suxx with suse -.-
[01:41] <phobiac> Just give me a second to see if I can find it's name again.
[01:42] <nAtic> AND... howto change your damn gui?
[01:42] <nAtic> i have kde running, but i want to have gnome... just to play with
[01:42] <nAtic> both is installed
[01:42] <menace_> wine is horrid
[01:43] <menace_> im hex_st0rm btw
[01:43] <triki> nAtic: you can choose which one to use in boot manager
[01:43] <menace_> got kicked from hex_st0rm
[01:43] <menace_> cause someone's using it
[01:43] <menace_> grrrr
[01:43] <nAtic> o0
[01:43] <nAtic> i'll try to set up grub to use gnome...
[01:43] <phobiac> Sorry nAtic, can't find it.
[01:43] <menace_> i did port forwarding like portforward.com told me to
[01:43] <menace_> now what?
[01:43] <nAtic> no prob, phobiac
[01:44] <triki> kdm or gdm can do it quick unless yours auto logins for you ?
[01:44] <nAtic> now, if anybody types your ip in his/her browser, he should get the apache page, you see on your localhost
[01:44] <nAtic> yeah, got autologin
[01:44] <nAtic> :] 
[01:44] <menace_> k
[01:44] <nAtic> gimme your ip, menace_
[01:44] <nAtic> whatismyip.com
[01:44] <menace_> just did in msn
[01:45] <phobiac> menace: Setting up apache?
[01:45] <menace_> trying to
[01:46] <triki> 70.232.79.56
[01:46] <menace_> lemme make sure thats my ip
[01:46] <menace_> hang on
[01:46] <nAtic> i am not even able to ping him o0
[01:46] <menace_> 70.232.79.56
[01:46] <menace_> hmm thats it now
[01:46] <menace_> somehow it changed...
[01:46] <triki> your router might be blocking ICMP
[01:47] <menace_> so 70.232.79.56 doesnt work?
[01:47] <phobiac> I set up LAMP on my old dell, there's this thing called Webmin that can be pretty useful managing Apache and other servers.
[01:47] <triki> no
[01:47] <phobiac> Just throwing that out there in case you find it useful.
[01:47] <triki> i prefer doing things manually
[01:47] <nAtic> yeah, thanks... webmin sounds great
[01:47] <menace_> yeah i just wanna get this working
[01:47] <intelikey> well i don't know how long it's been but lilo did the 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99... thing again.
[01:48] <triki> can you browse to it internally ?
[01:48] <nAtic> menace_ can, triki
[01:48] <josh__> #frostwire
[01:48] <menace_> yes, i can get to the page internally
[01:48] <triki> ok router issue then
[01:48] <triki> gotcha
[01:48] <josh__> why the hell wont frostwire connect
[01:48] <DekKeD> so, anyone knows how to do the stream video to webcam device thing? :P
[01:48] <josh__> i've done the supposed fix
[01:49] <nAtic> nope
[01:49] <josh__> and amule isnt any better
[01:49] <nAtic> ...
[01:49] <menace_> my java doesnt even work so idk
[01:49] <nAtic> whats frostwire?
[01:49] <menace_> its like limewire for linux nAtic
[01:49] <josh__> copy of limewire for linux
[01:49] <nAtic> ah
[01:49] <nAtic> some p2p
[01:49] <menace_> mhmm
[01:49] <intelikey> it's definitely related to the number of mounts.  but i have forced fscking turned off.   and i can't imagine why it would hose the mbr .....
[01:49] <nAtic> never tried...
[01:50] <nAtic> o0 suse has its own http server.... as i see
[01:51] <menace_> nice
[01:51] <intelikey> ignore me.  i'm just ranting about an ongoing issue with dapper on sda truncating the mbr every so often.
[01:51] <menace_> lol
[01:51] <phobiac> Only in linux can mount, forced fscking, and hose be used in the same sentence without it meaning something dirty...
[01:51] <menace_> triki: any ideas on how to fix it?
[01:51] <triki> menace_: your router ?
[01:52] <nAtic> is the apache box online? :P
[01:52] <menace_> not sure natic
[01:52] <menace_> how could i tell?
[01:52] <nAtic> do you have dmz running
[01:52] <intelikey> phobiac only a real geek would understand that...  the rest are dirty minded perverts.
[01:52] <triki> sounds like it's inside his network
[01:52] <nAtic> go to the apache box, and open google.com
[01:52] <triki> just need port forward
[01:52] <nAtic> yep
[01:52] <menace_> i already did port forwarding triki
[01:52] <nAtic> no matter where it is... just forward
[01:52] <triki> belkin router ?
[01:53] <menace_> yes
[01:53] <nAtic> to the right ip?
[01:53] <triki> ok one esec
[01:53] <menace_> it didnt ask me for an ip
[01:53] <menace_> awsome, i can allow people to manage my router
[01:53] <nAtic> yep
[01:53] <nAtic> lets do it :P
[01:54] <phobiac> menace you have the computer set up so your ip is static, right? Otherwise you'll have issues whenever the ip changes on you.
[01:54] <menace_> yes its static
[01:54] <the_hammer> wow that was freaky
[01:54] <menace_> wait
[01:54] <menace_> i think it is
[01:54] <the_hammer> couldnt find my irc client lol
[01:54] <nAtic> o0
[01:55] <nAtic> the quest for irc
[01:55] <menace_> IP address 192.168.2.1
[01:55] <the_hammer> was by my clock gotta get use to that heh
[01:55] <menace_> lol ctrl-f nAtic
[01:55] <nAtic> whats the ip address of the router?
[01:55] <nAtic> 192.168.2.1 for your pc sounds strange
[01:55] <menace_> lol
[01:55] <phobiac> menace: That looks like a local ip
[01:55] <nAtic> you need to see, if dhcp is running
[01:56] <nickv111> Hey. I have a flash drive with two partitions. /dev/sda1 is a vfat partition, and /dev/sda2 is a dm-crypt volume, which has on it a vfat partition. Would there be a way to manage the latter with KDE?
[01:56] <nAtic> phobiac: this IS a local ip :] 
[01:56] <triki> dhcp ?
[01:56] <menace_> 70.232.79.56 theres my ip
[01:56] <triki> the box has an ip
[01:56] <triki> he can see it internally
[01:56] <menace_> it is nAtic
[01:56] <nickv111> I have cryptsetup, but that's command-line, and I don't always want to have to run "cryptsetup create memstick /dev/sda2"
[01:56] <nAtic> dynamic host control protocol
[01:56] <triki> yes i know what it is
[01:56] <triki> that is working fine
[01:56] <nAtic> dhcp does not provides static ips in first place
[01:57] <menace_> omg.
[01:57] <triki> that is correct, you trying to get him to assign a static ip to webserver ?
[01:57] <menace_> so i have to disable dhcp?
[01:57] <nAtic> menace_: all you need to do is:
[01:57] <triki> that would make sense true
[01:57] <nAtic> get your apache running
[01:57] <nAtic> (you have)
[01:57] <triki> specially for port forwards
[01:57] <intelikey>  192.168.*.*  and 172.  and  10.  are all reserved ip ranges   i think there are others also      they are not allowed to be used with reguard to the internet   only on local networks
[01:57] <triki> Starting Nmap 4.03 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap ) at 2006-12-10 19:54 Eastern
[01:57] <triki> Standard Time
[01:57] <triki> Interesting ports on adsl-70-232-79-56.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net (70.232.79.56):
[01:57] <triki> (The 1670 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
[01:57] <triki> PORT STATE SERVICE
[01:57] <triki> 80/tcp closed http
[01:57] <triki> 113/tcp closed auth
[01:57] <triki> 10000/tcp closed snet-sensor-mgmt
[01:57] <triki> 10005/tcp closed stel
[01:57] <triki> Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 164.125 seconds
[01:58] <triki> ports are closed
[01:58] <menace_> if this helps anything, the router is connected to my computer then gives my parents wireless internet
[01:58] <menace_> lol theres 2 new open ports
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste
[01:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:59] <nAtic> or phpfi.com
[01:59] <nAtic> :] 
[01:59] <menace_> so im guessing i dont have apache running?
[01:59] <nAtic> -.-
[01:59] <menace_> because if not i dont know how to get it running?
[01:59] <jongt> im currently following the howto for the latest intel sourcecode drivers, would this effect using a new WM and aiglx?
[01:59] <nAtic> killall apache*
[01:59] <nAtic> :P
[01:59] <menace_> are you serious?
[01:59] <menace_> that would turn apache off.
[02:00] <nAtic> dunno, wait
[02:00] <menace_> lol yes it would kill apache
[02:00] <menace_> as in turn it off
[02:00] <nAtic> look into your /srv/www folder
[02:01] <menace_> theres nothing in my /src/ directory
[02:01] <menace_> srv*
[02:01] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/apach* [start,stop,restart] 
[02:01] <nAtic> yep
[02:01] <triki> sudo apachectl stop
[02:01] <the_hammer> i like this already
[02:01] <the_hammer> ive had 2 other distros truying to get liquid weather working and it wouldnt go
[02:01] <the_hammer> now i got it working
[02:02] <the_hammer> how cool is that :)
[02:02] <intelikey> sudo invoke-rc.d apache <blah>
[02:02] <nAtic> eeew, guys i am going to bed
[02:02] <menace_> menace@menace-desktop:~$ sudo apachectl start Password: sudo: apachectl: command not found menace@menace-desktop:~$
[02:02] <nAtic> 2 o'clock at night over here -.-
[02:02] <menace_> night nAtic
[02:02] <the_hammer> holy
[02:02] <the_hammer> 7:07pm here
[02:02] <menace_> same here hammer
[02:02] <nAtic> yeah, you are like half across the world
[02:02] <the_hammer> where u at?
[02:02] <menace_> arkansas
[02:02] <the_hammer> cool
[02:02] <triki> sudo apache2ctl stop
[02:02] <the_hammer> winnipeg here
[02:02] <menace_> awsome
[02:03] <dave> i am trying to install automatrix but it does nt come up under adept
[02:03] <phobiac> New york here
[02:03] <the_hammer> man this kubuntu rocks
[02:03] <triki> type apache and hit tab a couple times
[02:03] <menace_> ymenace@menace-desktop:~$ sudo apache2ctl stop apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName menace@menace-desktop:~$
[02:03] <intelikey> hmmm 7:03 here
[02:03] <intelikey> y'all are 4minutes fast.
[02:03] <the_hammer> lol
[02:03] <menace_> lol
[02:03] <the_hammer> or your 4mins slow
[02:04] <the_hammer> hehehe
[02:04] <triki> 8:00 here
[02:04] <menace_> menace@menace-desktop:~$ apache2 apache2                  apache2ctl               apache2-ssl-certificate menace@menace-desktop:~$ apache2
[02:04] <intelikey> if i am pool.ntp.org is too
[02:04] <nAtic> Linux Jenny 2.6.16.21-0.25-default #1 Tue Sep 19 07:26:15 UTC 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[02:04] <menace_> i guess i need to set it up with a domain name triki?
[02:04] <menace_> where you from intelikey?
[02:05] <triki> what is your hostname ?
[02:05] <the_hammer> how do u know what version of kde ya have?
[02:05] <menace_> no clue
[02:05] <menace_> and ill find out triki
[02:05] <nAtic> before i sleep, i need to check out gnome...
[02:05] <nAtic> brb
[02:05] <the_hammer> gnome eww
[02:05] <dave> !repositories
[02:05] <menace_> adsl-70-232-79-56.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net
[02:05] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:06] <the_hammer> !distro bashing
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distro bashing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <menace_> lol
[02:06] <the_hammer> lol
[02:06] <menace_> triki: adsl-70-232-79-56.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net right?
[02:06] <intelikey> kcontrol --version
[02:07] <triki> that is what you get from your isp
[02:07] <dave> !help
[02:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:07] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ?
[02:07] <Jucato> the_hammer: Help menu -> About KDE
[02:07] <kai> wasup everybody
[02:07] <nAtic> dammi
[02:07] <nAtic> t
[02:07] <menace_> intelikey: menace@menace-desktop:~$
[02:07] <menace_> kcontrol --version Qt: 3.3.6 KDE: 3.5.2 KDE Control Center: 3.5.2
[02:07] <triki> if i do a reverse lookup on that i get your ip from your isp
[02:07] <menace_> sorry
[02:07] <nAtic> logged off and forgot about my dvd ripping session -.-
[02:08] <menace_> lol
[02:08] <nAtic> hours of ripping wasted
[02:08] <menace_> k, triki what do you need me to do?
[02:08] <nAtic> u guys have the right tomezone for me :] 
[02:08] <jongt> anyone seen this error? "i830_xf86Crtc.c:146: error: 'M_T_PREFERRED' undeclared (first use in this function)"
[02:08] <dave> I am running a new kubuntu installation and the repository list is missing some repositories. is there a list of repositories that can be added
[02:08] <triki> go to your webserver in a prompt and type 'hostname'
[02:08] <the_hammer> cool ok ty i got 3.5.5 but seen ya can update it to kde4
[02:09] <triki> what do you get
[02:09] <intelikey> nAtic what is it  utc+3 ?
[02:09] <phobiac> dave, do you mean some of the repositories aren't enabled? You should be able to edit /etc/sources.list and uncomment some lines to enable them.
[02:09] <menace_> god i feel stupid, wheres my webserver prompt?
[02:10] <dave> phobiac: no they are all enabled
[02:10] <menace_> or actually, would you like access to my router?
[02:10] <dave> phobiac: i am trying to install automatrix and it is not on adepts list
[02:10] <triki> it allows external access ?
[02:10] <menace_> i think so
[02:10] <triki> for administration ?
[02:10] <menace_> whats your ip and ill try?
[02:10] <LjL> !automatix | dave
[02:10] <ubotu> dave: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:10] <menace_> yes
[02:10] <triki> if you try to browse to it know do you see a page ?
[02:10] <phobiac> dave: google automatrix and see if theres an online repository for it
[02:11] <intelikey> !easyubuntu
[02:11] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:11] <menace_> no its down
[02:11] <mikelinux> Can I apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:11] <intelikey> yep
[02:11] <dave> phobiac: ok
[02:11] <mikelinux> kinfo is empty/
[02:11] <triki> menace_: and you get an error when you run 'apache2ctl start' ?
[02:12] <menace_> menace@menace-desktop:~$ sudo apache2ctl start apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[02:12] <intelikey> mikelinux kdedoc installed ?
[02:12] <triki> ok so now type 'hostname'
[02:13] <flaccid> trying to find command to list contents of a .deb
[02:13] <intelikey> hostname == localhost     ja ja ja ja
[02:13] <mikelinux> intelikey: will check
[02:13] <menace_> menace@menace-desktop:~$ hostname menace-desktop
[02:13] <triki> oh i see
[02:13] <phobiac> dave: is this what you need? http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation
[02:13] <flaccid> ah just -c
[02:13] <triki> do this
[02:13] <menace_> dont use automatix!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:13] <menace_> it corrups your reposs!!!!!!!!!!1
[02:13] <menace_> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:13] <menace_> its evil!!!!!!!!1
[02:13] <dave> automatrix works well
[02:14] <menace_> until it corrupts your repos and you have to re-install
[02:14] <LjL> yeah, sure. anyway, #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:14] <triki> sudo vi /etc/hosts
[02:14] <triki> and add
[02:14] <triki> 127.0.0.1 hostname
[02:14] <Furesho> does that edgy page in the topic tell how to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[02:14] <menace_> ~ "/etc/hosts/" Illegal file name                               0,0-1         All
[02:15] <Furesho> nvm
[02:15] <intelikey> flaccid i like mc  you can browse inside of .deb .tar .gz .bz2 .zip files and preform operations as needed.   extract one file or any part of the archive run scripts contained within them  like the install inside a .dev if you like....
[02:15] <mikelinux> intelikey: mmm not in there?
[02:15] <phobiac> I've never used automatix or easyubuntu but I have heard mostly bad things about automatix.
[02:15] <flaccid> mc? hmm i just want to list the files inside
[02:16] <flaccid> the dpkg -X extracts them as well. but i just want list
[02:16] <flaccid> what is this mc ?
[02:16] <menace_> i went to /etc/host in my browser triki, it has some stuff in the file..hang on
[02:16] <menace_> !pastebin
[02:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:16] <flaccid> i install it
[02:16] <intelikey> !mc
[02:16] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[02:16] <flaccid> !mc
[02:16] <flaccid> oh
[02:16] <flaccid> can you do it in  krusader as well?
[02:16] <intelikey> never tried.
[02:16] <flaccid> oh ok
[02:16] <menace_> triki:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36366/
[02:17] <flaccid> do you know the apt-get or dpkg command to list the files of the pakcage?
[02:17] <intelikey> dpkg -L package-name
[02:17] <intelikey> that lists what it will install  not the control files.
[02:18] <Jucato> can also be seen in apt:/
[02:18] <intelikey> and may only work on installed packages.
[02:18] <flaccid> ah ok
[02:18] <flaccid> i need it to list the files, intelikey
[02:19] <flaccid> looks liek i have to extract
[02:19] <menace_> cd *dirwhere the file is*
[02:19] <menace_> ls filename
[02:19] <intelikey> try tar
[02:19] <dave> !kubuntu
[02:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> !grub
[02:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:19] <menace_> any idea triki?
[02:19] <mikelinux> muct of kde is missing
[02:20] <mikelinux> h^^
[02:20] <dave> !repositories
[02:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:20] <Rob-West> can someone help me burn an ISO in linux
[02:20] <menace_> !iso
[02:20] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[02:20] <phobiac> Rob-West: K3b should work
[02:20] <menace_> use k3b yeh
[02:20] <Rob-West> k
[02:21] <phobiac> I used it to burn the Kubuntu iso and it worked fine for me.
[02:21] <mikelinux> I get errors when trying to update kde
[02:22] <mikelinux> missing libs...
[02:22] <menace_> triki?
[02:22] <mikelinux> 3.5 should be sorted,mmm
[02:23] <dave> hmm
[02:23] <phobiac> Mike, you should be able to go through the packages and install the libs you need manually first.
[02:23] <dave> still do not have automatrix
[02:23] <dave> !adept
[02:23] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:23] <mikelinux> phobiac: been there ,,never ending
[02:23] <phobiac> dave: try easyubuntu? I've heard much better things about it then automatix
[02:23] <mikelinux> just another missing lib...
[02:24] <dave> ok
[02:24] <phobiac> !easyubuntu
[02:24] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:24] <nAtic> sooo
[02:24] <nAtic> downloading some more gnome packages
[02:24] <dave> ok how do i put that on
[02:24] <LjL> or try just reading the darn docs. if you can't even see how automatix can be installed, then you need to read them. badly.
[02:24] <dave> easyubuntu
[02:24] <dave> !easyubuntu
[02:24] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:24] <LjL> and once you've learned that, you don't even need automatix *or* easyubuntu anymore
[02:24] <LjL> and stop the bot spamming
[02:25] <phobiac> Mikelinux: I think there's a way to mark all needed packages on a package you're trying to install.
[02:25] <intelikey> hmmm odd what compression is a .deb in?
[02:25] <intelikey> algarythm ^   ?
[02:25] <RoC_MM_0x> !vnc
[02:25] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:25] <mikelinux> phobiac: you have Edgy installed?
[02:25] <phobiac> Try right clicking on the package in adept, it should be in the right click menu if i remember correctly
[02:25] <dave> phobiac: how do you install easy ubuntu
[02:25] <phobiac> mikelinux: Yes
[02:26] <mikelinux> phobiac: kinfo load ok/
[02:26] <phobiac> dave: I have no idea. I tried installing it once and it didn't work out for me. I ended up just installing the packages manually.
[02:26] <mikelinux> phobiac: kde opens but no info lol
[02:27] <menace_> curse adept
[02:27] <menace_> apache*
[02:27] <menace_> curse apache...
[02:28] <dave> phobiac: this is my friends computer. i already set mine up and I am just trying to do the same thing. I know i need to manually add some repositories. I think the bot will give me a link to the site that contains the names of the repositories to add if you ask the right question
[02:28] <Furesho> before i do this upgrade to edgy, i gott ask... is it better that i upgrade via the cd or over the web?
[02:28] <mikelinux> phobiac: gnome or kde?
[02:28] <mikelinux> gnome may be fine
[02:28] <notech> menace_: did you have a correct /etc/hosts file?
[02:28] <menace_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36366/
[02:28] <phobiac> dave: I don't know how else to help you. Sorry. :/
[02:28] <menace_> thats my /etc/hosts file
[02:29] <dave> if my sound is not working what do i type for the bot to give me a troubleshooting guide
[02:29] <phobiac> Mikelinux: I use KDE
[02:29] <Rob-West> im kaing my Kubuntu CD now
[02:29] <phobiac> Are you trying to install KDE?
[02:29] <dave> !sound
[02:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:29] <mikelinux> phobiac: No all installed but lots is missing
[02:29] <mikelinux> kinfo is empty
[02:29] <phobiac> Mike: programs and such?
[02:29] <mikelinux> no partition info etc etc
[02:30] <dave> i know ubuntu has a quick start guide to kubuntu does anyone know anything about that
[02:30] <intelikey> All binary Debian packages consist of three basic things: a text file called debian-binary, a compressed tarball called control.tar.gz, and another compressed tarball called data.tar.gz.       bah ha!  now ya know.
[02:30] <phobiac> Are you using synaptic or adept to mange packages?
[02:30] <phobiac> manage*
[02:30] <dave> adapt
[02:30] <notech> menace_:  don't believe i've ever seen anyone use 127.0.1.1, but the first line looks ok
[02:30] <menace_> it just automatically did that notech
[02:30] <nAtic> is kubuntu rpm or deb?
[02:30] <mikelinux> phobiac: both
[02:30] <christiane|eth0> Hello. I removed the pkg ndiswrapper-common and -utils-1.8. Then I manually compiled and installed latest ndiswrapper from sf.net. But when I run ndiswrapper -v it tells me driver version 1.22.
[02:30] <menace_> and im new to all this....
[02:31] <dave> !graphics
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <Rob-West> BRB
[02:31] <notech> huh, maybe 127.0.1.1 is a kubuntu thing
[02:31] <nAtic> driver version has nothing in common with the ndiswrapper version, christiane|eth0
[02:31] <phobiac> Okay, in adept if you click the arrow to expand the info on the package then click "details" it should bring you to more detailed info on the package.
[02:31] <dave> !adept
[02:31] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:31] <menace_> possibly
[02:32] <mikelinux> yes been there
[02:32] <phobiac> Try doing that with KDE and you should see a tab called "package relationships"
[02:32] <menace_> if everything in that /etc/host file is good, then why cant anyone connect to it?
[02:32] <menace_> actually it doesnt have a domain name
[02:32] <menace_> that might be it
[02:32] <phobiac> My guess is highlight all the required ones and choose install?
[02:32] <intelikey> http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html
[02:32] <christiane|eth0> When I try to modprobe ndiswrapper it says: "FATAL: inserting ... (... ndiswrapper.ko) invalid argument"
[02:33] <nAtic> omg christiane|eth0
[02:33] <nAtic> sure u use the right version with your distro?
[02:33] <christiane|eth0> nAtic: ?
[02:33] <nAtic> o0
[02:33] <nAtic> you have a broadcom card?
[02:33] <notech> menace_: connect to it? i thought you were seeing an error starting apache
[02:33] <christiane|eth0> nAtic: Yes, 4311, bcm43xx didn't work well.
[02:34] <Black5un> fyi, i just installed kubuntu :p
[02:34] <christiane|eth0> nAtic: .. and ubuntu's ndiswrapper totally refused working
[02:34] <menace_> oh yes, i am
[02:34] <mikelinux> Black5un: check if kinfo loads all info?
[02:35] <phobiac> mike: That help you any?
[02:35] <christiane|eth0> nAtic: So, what does "right version with my distro" mean?
[02:35] <mikelinux> phobiac: said errors
[02:35] <menace_> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName httpd (pid 17385) already running
[02:35] <christiane|eth0> nAtic: Just installed Kubuntu 6.10 btw
[02:36] <phobiac> mike: sorry man. I'm out of ways to help.
[02:36] <intelikey> is /etc/hosts set up ?
[02:37] <mikelinux> phobiac: cheers anyway,might test the gnome release
[02:37] <intelikey> mikelinux what's the issue ?
[02:37] <menace_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36366/ <------is my /etc/hosts file
[02:37] <intelikey> too late.
[02:37] <phobiac> mike: You could always try downloading and burning the kubuntu iso if you're determined enough.
[02:38] <phobiac> Well nvm
[02:38] <menace_> im not sure if its set up, is it inteli?
[02:39] <intelikey> menace_ try line 1;     127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost    menace-desktop         and comment out line two.
[02:39] <dave> is there a quick start guide for kubuntu?
[02:40] <intelikey> dave  press   [F1]    ?
[02:40] <christiane|eth0> nAtic: kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic
[02:41] <christiane|eth0> nAtic: `ndiswrapper -l` lists the driver and the harware as present
[02:42] <christiane|eth0> nAtic: For compiling ndiswrapper I installed linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:42] <menace_> intelikey: 127.0.0.1	localhost.localdomain   localhost    menace-desktop #127.0.1.1	menace-desktop
[02:42] <menace_> like that?
[02:42] <intelikey> yeah
[02:42] <menace_> k
[02:43] <menace_> so now people should be able to see my apache page by putting my ip in the address bar?
[02:43] <intelikey> you'll have to restart all networking to affect that change.
[02:43] <notech> if you have port 80 open and forwarded to that box
[02:43] <intelikey> and i make no promices...
[02:43] <menace_> ok, but what i said should work after i restart all networking?
[02:44] <menace_> yes, notech i did all my portforwarding
[02:44] <intelikey> menace_ see notech         notech get him.
[02:44] <menace_> ?
[02:45] <intelikey> i'll be back later so you can gripe at me for that not fixking all your problems....
[02:46] <menace_> im gonna restart all my networking
[02:46] <menace_> brb
[02:47] <the_hammer> anyone heard of kdfx?
[02:48] <the_hammer> i wanna change certain buttons
[02:48] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You around ?
[02:49] <soulrider> yes Hawkwind
[02:49] <soulrider> currently on my live CD
[02:49] <soulrider> i screwed kubuntu up
[02:49] <the_hammer> lol
[02:50] <the_hammer> how do u screw up a live cd?
[02:51] <RoC_MM_0w> !vnc
[02:51] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:52] <flaccid> you cann't screw up a live cd. its read only lol
[02:58] <Rob-West> Kubuntu is installed
[02:58] <malik__> hi ppl
[02:58] <malik__> hi ppl
[02:59] <hex_st0rm> no more error at least
[03:04] <menace_> is it possible to set up apache so that if someone put your ip in the address bar it would take them to your apache site?
[03:05] <christiane|eth0> Now I installed the ubuntu pkg ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 again but it's still the error msg "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (.../ndiswrapper.ko) inavlid argument"
[03:05] <christiane|eth0> How to fix this?
[03:05] <malik__> only  if u  have static ip  address  menace
[03:05] <menace_> im not sure if i have one malik
[03:05] <menace_> how could i check?
[03:05] <cloakable> !pcmcia
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <menace_> cloak, have you set your bios to boot from cdrom?
[03:06] <menace_> bios/cmos w/e
[03:06] <cloakable> menace_: Can't. Old bios.
[03:06] <menace_> i have an 8 year old bios on my other computer and i can do it.
[03:07] <malik__> simple way is painful if the  ip  address  changes after u  restart  ur  comp  then u  dont have static  n if it remains the same then  it  is
[03:07] <malik__> im  sure the  other ppl   can tell u    a   better  way
[03:07] <cloakable> menace_: Still. Can't boot from the pcmcia cdrom.
[03:07] <malik__> im just  a  newbie myself
[03:07] <menace_> that stinks cloak
[03:08] <menace_> malik: i think it stays the same
[03:08] <menace_> not sure
[03:08] <cloakable> menace_: It does. But you want to know what stinks more?
[03:08] <menace_> ??
[03:09] <cloakable> menace_: Virtually every other distro out there supplies bootfloppy images so you can install their distro in situations like mine. Apart from Ubuntu.
[03:09] <menace_> lol
[03:10] <menace_> ah i read about a way to boot strait from an iso without having to burn it and everything
[03:10] <menace_> cant remember how though :(
[03:10] <menace_> and i hate apache!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:10] <cloakable> Damn :P
[03:11] <cloakable> Ah well, I have damn small linux on it, so at least I got rid of Win98
[03:12] <menace_> yeh
[03:12] <cloakable> But fluxbuntu would be better :P
[03:13] <menace_> freakin apache
[03:13] <flaccid> bbl
[03:13] <cloakable> menace_: You want your apache accessable from internet or network?
[03:14] <menace_> internet
[03:14] <menace_> i can access it internally, but no one that i know can access it
[03:14] <cloakable> Hmm. Are you behind a router?
[03:14] <menace_> ye
[03:14] <menace_> yes*
[03:15] <cloakable> Port 80 forwarded to your box?
[03:16] <menace_> 80 and 443
[03:17] <malik__> any   one here use opera on  kubuntu?/
[03:18] <Rob-West> how do i get to the souce.list file
[03:18] <hex_st0rm> enabled 443 and it kicked me off the internet...
[03:19] <menace_> gah
[03:19] <menace_> wtf my ip keeps changing
[03:19] <malik__> goto  ........................../etc/apt/sources.list
[03:20] <APPRECIATEIT> And as we rely on the forthwright wisom of one, LjL, we have only the ability to ponder the meaning of his everlasting refrain "ITSA MEEE, MARIO. I FROM ITALY"
[03:20] <menace_> !static ip
[03:20] <APPRECIATEIT> And I do, honestly chap, I do APPRECIATEIT
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about static ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <the_hammer> anyon here mess with changing icons and stuff?
[03:21] <malik__> yes i did yesterday but it urned out pile of ........................
[03:21] <the_hammer> i wanna edit my kmenu
[03:21] <the_hammer> change the k icon to something little fancyer
[03:21] <menace_> i need to set up a static ip
[03:21] <menace_> anyone know how?
[03:21] <malik__> the hammer: right click on it n the select ediut menue
[03:22] <the_hammer> i mean make it have a different icon
[03:22] <max_> what is a latex enviroment?
[03:22] <Jucato> the_hammer: <apt> Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx
[03:22] <malik__> menac  far as  i know if u have set up  port forwardin  on ur router already then u already have setup static ip
[03:22] <the_hammer> i have that
[03:23] <menace_> my ip keeps changing man
[03:23] <menace_> often
[03:23] <cloakable> Argh.
[03:23] <max_> what is a KDE Latex Enciroment?
[03:24] <malik__> max:;
[03:24] <malik__> 3.5.5
[03:24] <malik__> i  knew how to do it in  winxp but im  a newbie on linux sorry
[03:24] <Alter-Ego> does kubuntu have hardware detection ?
[03:27] <flaccid> Alter-Ego: yes
[03:28] <malik__> the_hammer: got system settings n the into look & fell n  the appearance n  then in the icon list  u can change it  but u have to install  some icons first in order to change it
[03:28] <Furesho> more o' me being a bother, i'm afraid. "If you have a Kubuntu 6.10 CD, put it in the drive, and run apt-cdrom from the command line. Then follow the instructions above." but just typing apt-cdrom is apparently incomplete. what exactly do they mean by this?
[03:28] <Furesho> by the way, i'm trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy
[03:29] <flaccid> Furesho: where did you get this info from?
[03:29] <menace_> wtf my ip is constantly changing
[03:29] <flaccid> menace_: probably using a dhcp server
[03:29] <notech> menace_: the pc or your external ip?
[03:30] <menace_> external
[03:30] <Furesho> from http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[03:30] <notech> menace_: what type of connection?
[03:30] <malik__> must b  ur  isp  then
[03:30] <menace_> DSL
[03:30] <menace_> sbc yahoo DSL
[03:30] <flaccid> yahoo must not give a static ip then
[03:30] <notech> menace_: are you restarting the dsl router?
[03:31] <menace_> no
[03:31] <menace_> im changing options in the router though
[03:31] <menace_> trying to get freaking apache to run
[03:31] <flaccid> check your dhcp lease time that your isp gives you
[03:31] <unix_infidel> menace_: that'll happen pretty often.
[03:31] <flaccid> router aint going to help you get apache going
[03:31] <notech> menace_: then the isp probably does not allow servers on their network and are changing it
[03:31] <Rob-West> can someone help me install Automatix
[03:32] <Jucato> !automatix | Rob-West
[03:32] <ubotu> Rob-West: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:32] <flaccid> !automatix > Rob-West
[03:32] <Rob-West> !automatix
[03:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:32] <unix_infidel> menace_: use dynamic dns.
[03:32] <menace_> lease time for the DHCP server is forever
[03:32] <Rob-West> !automatix2
[03:32] <flaccid> menace_: i doubt it
[03:32] <menace_> im using DMZ right now...but im not sure what it is
[03:32] <flaccid> haha
[03:32] <menace_> want me to take a screen shot flaccid?
[03:33] <flaccid> sure
[03:33] <flaccid> althought i'm not sure what exactly you are trying to accomplish here
[03:33] <unix_infidel> just use a dyndns service and be done with it.
[03:33] <unix_infidel> your on a dynamic dns server.  sbc yahoo DOES allow incoming server connections.
[03:33] <Furesho> flaccid: from http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[03:33] <malik__> Rob-West: sudo apt-get install automatix
[03:34] <unix_infidel> just make sure you port forward your desired apache listening port to the destination computer.
[03:34] <menace_> im hosting hang on
[03:34] <unix_infidel> oh, and sbc yahoo's upload speed suck....so be aware.
[03:34] <menace_> unixinfidel: all i have is dns, not dynamic i dont think
[03:34] <Jucato> malik__: automatix is not a package
[03:34] <flaccid> Furesho: and what is the error?
[03:34] <Jucato> Rob-West: might want to ask help in #automatix
[03:34] <LjL> Jucato: actually it is... :)
[03:34] <Rob-West> who me
[03:34] <unix_infidel> menace_: i'm quite sure you have dynamic unless you are paying like 60 a month.
[03:34] <Jucato> LjL: in our repositories?
[03:34] <malik__> Rob-West: okie the goto http://easylinux.info
[03:34] <menace_> k
[03:34] <LjL> Jucato: on my dead body
[03:35] <menace_> flaccid: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6310/apachece8.png enjoy
[03:35] <malik__> they have all the instructions there
[03:35] <Jucato> LjL: that what I meant :)
[03:35] <unix_infidel> menace_: LOL, that's an internal DHCP server.
[03:35] <menace_> huh?
[03:35] <flaccid> menace_: that is the least time for the dhcp server of the router. not the isp. you do not have control on the isp's dhcp server!
[03:35] <malik__> i saw it in easylinux.info but i didnt install it
[03:35] <flaccid> least=lease
[03:36] <Furesho> flaccid: it's just givin me info as if i were leaving out an argument in using it...... Usage: apt-cdrom [options]  command then it gives a man page-ish descrip from there
[03:36] <flaccid> i enjoyed very much menance. was good to laugh at
[03:36] <menace_> lol
[03:36] <menace_> i hate apache!
[03:36] <flaccid> apache rules
[03:36] <menace_> everyone says everything different and i get so confused
[03:36] <menace_> and i cant get it working.
[03:36] <notech> its not an apache problem
[03:36] <unix_infidel> took me like 15 seconds to get apache working.
[03:37] <malik__> sounds like that ur ips is buggerin ur settings up man
[03:37] <unix_infidel> heck, took me longer to get IIS working :P
[03:37] <menace_> i've been working on it for 4-5 hours
[03:37] <flaccid> Furesho: try sudo apt-cdrom add
[03:37] <Furesho> okiedoke
[03:37] <flaccid> what is the problem with apache, menace_?
[03:37] <menace_> it just wont work!
[03:37] <menace_> when someone types my ip into the address bar it doesnt work
[03:37] <menace_> and im not sure what the problem is
[03:37] <menace_> its started
[03:37] <menace_> and i can access it
[03:37] <flaccid> like we have said 3 times menace_. its not an apache problem
[03:37] <menace_> but noone else can
[03:37] <menace_> router or isp problem
[03:38] <flaccid> you have a networking problem
[03:38] <menace_> you said thats the problem
[03:38] <notech> did forawrd the ports to the box?
[03:38] <menace_> but you dont say how to fix it
[03:38] <menace_> notech:yes i did
[03:38] <menace_> 443 and 80
[03:38] <flaccid> forward port 80 to your internal ip of the server. of course if you isp blocks port 80, you won't be able to use port 80
[03:38] <menace_> hang on just a second
[03:38] <flaccid> we have said 3 times now, menace_
[03:39] <alex_> i was wondering if anyone could give me some feedback on feisty fawn? bugs, frustrations, etc
[03:39] <Furesho> flaccid:
[03:39] <Furesho> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%206.10%20%5fEdgy%20Eft%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20061025)_dists_edgy_Release.gpg - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:39] <flaccid> someone really should specify the correct apt-cdrom commmand on http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php . can somebody fix it up who has access?
[03:39] <Furesho> should i worry bout that?
[03:39] <flaccid> was that under sudo, Furesho?
[03:39] <menace_> flaccid: sorry dude...i know what you say yet you keep saying the same thing..but you dont say any ideas on how to fix it.
[03:39] <Furesho> ah.
[03:39] <Furesho> sudo.
[03:40] <Furesho> makes sense.
[03:40] <flaccid> i just told you how to fix it, menace_ . you really should read.
[03:40] <menace_> http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3886/apache1pb6.png
[03:40] <malik__> alex_: its a bad news atm for business or work comp but for playin purposes its okie
[03:40] <menace_> i've done my forwarding
[03:41] <flaccid> menace_: give me your ip, i'll see if 80 is open externally
[03:41] <menace_> 70.232.78.182
[03:41] <flaccid> http://192.168.2.1 works locally, menace_?
[03:42] <Furesho> worked like a charm. okay, the rest is just typin commands. wish me luck
[03:42] <flaccid> good luck Furesho
[03:42] <alex_> much difference appearance wise?
[03:42] <flaccid> i like the new edgy theme
[03:42] <menace_> yes it does flaccid
[03:43] <Jucato> alex_: nothing much in feisty appearance-wise (no new artwork)
[03:43] <flaccid> menace_: i'm still scanning the port. it looks closed atm. chances are your isp blocks port 80.
[03:43] <menace_> dang it
[03:43] <menace_> so no apache hosting for me?
[03:43] <flaccid> try it on a different port first
[03:43] <alex_> no good, i hope the make some big changes in the near future
[03:43] <flaccid> also ensure your firewall(s) are not blocking
[03:44] <flaccid> but port 80 is closed on your IP.
[03:44] <Jucato> alex_: development just started last month and will end April... of course there are going to be more changes
[03:44] <menace_> k, i dont have a firewall in linux
[03:44] <menace_> i have one in windows
[03:44] <menace_> which is on this same computer
[03:44] <alex_> i meant major changes, like moving away from the brown
[03:44] <flaccid> your router probably has a firewall
[03:44] <menace_> ok
[03:44] <flaccid> the port forward doesn't necessarily open the port
[03:45] <Jucato> alex_: Kubuntu never used brown :)
[03:45] <alex_> eh, not big on the kde
[03:45] <flaccid> although most routers will do the firewall rule when you do the port forward
[03:45] <flaccid> i'm going out to lunch bbs/l
[03:45] <malik__> talkin abt firewall shud i have firewall on kubuntu
[03:45] <Jucato> alex_: you are in Kubuntu, so we use KDE here (mostly)
[03:45] <Jucato> er.. I mean in #kubuntu
[03:45] <malik__> tho its enabled on router alongwith NAT
[03:45] <alex_> agreed, but my question didn't involve a preference, did it?
[03:45] <menace_> should i just disable my router firewall?
[03:46] <Jucato> alex_: it involves a presumption that since you're in #kubuntu, you'd be interested in the Kubuntu side of the development
[03:47] <alex_> i guess i didn't know that there was a ubuntu support channel
[03:47] <Jucato> alex_: there is, it's #ubuntu. and there's also an #ubuntu+1 channel for feisty
[03:48] <christiane|eth0> Solved my wifi problem by uninstalling, installing, uninstalling and installing ndiswrapper again.
[03:50] <christiane|eth0> Next problem: Videos played in fullscreen mode are only displayed with approx. 5 fps (on a dual core 1.6GHz machine) both in xine and in kaffeine. Where to look first?
[03:50] <menace_> flaccid: turn off the firewall?
[03:52] <christiane|eth0> How can I find out which video driver is actually used?
[03:55] <jorge__> hola
[03:55] <jorge__> necesito ayuda
[03:55] <jorge__> help
[03:55] <Jucato> !es
[03:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:56] <jorge__> ok
[04:03] <christiane|eth0> !xvid > christiane|eth0
[04:13] <intelikey> all is quiet on the backwards front
[04:13] <intelikey> how goes the war
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> how do I install google earth from a .biz file?
[04:21] <intelikey> .biz ?
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> yes'm
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> wait..
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> my bad..
[04:21] <Ash-Fox> !java
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> .bin
[04:21] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[04:22] <intelikey> .bin or .bz2  i could probably tell you
[04:22] <intelikey> ok chmod 755 *.bin ;./*.bin
[04:22] <intelikey> !.bin
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <intelikey> !bin
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> Mmm  Hmmm
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <intelikey> thought there was a factoid on that...
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> perently not..
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> !googleearth
[04:24] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> !chmod
[04:26] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[04:26] <the_hammer> how come kbfx is in lost&found in kmenu?
[04:27] <the_hammer> although its installed not sure how to use it
[04:27] <intelikey> the_hammer ls /lost*
[04:28] <intelikey> oh nm.
[04:28] <the_hammer> root@AMD64:/home/hammer# ls /lost
[04:28] <the_hammer> ls: /lost: No such file or directory
[04:28] <intelikey> lost&found != /lost+found
[04:29] <intelikey> i didn't say "ls /lost "     if you can't follow one simple string........   nm
[04:29] <Furesho> what's that site i go to to paste multi-line stuff?
[04:29] <intelikey> !paste
[04:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:30] <the_hammer> uh huh ya
[04:31] <the_hammer> perhaps if ya spit out the right commands i wouldnt get the errors
[04:31] <intelikey> the_hammer i did.
[04:31] <intelikey> you didn't enter it correctly.
[04:32] <cl187> oh so nice to have wireless working lol
[04:32] <intelikey> " <intelikey> the_hammer ls /lost* "  <--->  " <the_hammer> root@AMD64:/home/hammer# ls /lost   ... <the_hammer> ls: /lost: No such file or directory "     <--- see the  asterisk...
[04:33] <the_hammer> root@AMD64:/home/hammer# ls /lost*
[04:33] <the_hammer> root@AMD64:/home/hammer#
[04:34] <the_hammer> nothing happened BUT its in the kmenu under lost & found
[04:34] <the_hammer> terrible
[04:35] <intelikey> k but i also corrected my post  ^   saying  lost&found is not equal to lost+found     so in short i don't know why kde lost it and then found it.  it's not in the lost+found dir.
[04:36] <intelikey> thus you can edit your kmenu if you want it moved.
[04:36] <intelikey> kmenuedit
[04:36] <the_hammer> ya i know but i cant get it to do what i want
[04:36] <the_hammer> i make changes i wanna do and nothing happens
[04:37] <intelikey> splain
[04:37] <the_hammer> have ya ever used it?
[04:37] <intelikey> no
[04:37] <the_hammer> kdfx?
[04:37] <the_hammer> oops kbfx
[04:38] <the_hammer> well im not sure how to explain then
[04:38] <intelikey> k
[04:38] <the_hammer> never used it myself so not sure if its something im doing or of its other
[04:38] <intelikey> of its other ?
[04:39] <the_hammer> well cuz i d/l themes and stuff and apply and nothing happens
[04:39] <intelikey> hmmm   ok.
[04:39] <the_hammer> so yeah i dunno if its something im doing or if theres something wrong with the program or if the themes i d/l work or not
[04:40] <the_hammer> or mixture of all
[04:40] <intelikey> kbfx - a new K-Menu for KDE
[04:40] <intelikey> kubuntu-artwork-kbfx - kubuntu artwork for KBFX
[04:40] <intelikey> it's not what i thought it was....
[04:40] <Rob-West> ok i need help setting up my networking
[04:41] <intelikey> me too rob.
[04:41] <the_hammer> ahh well i give up
[04:41] <the_hammer> night boys
[04:42] <Rob-West> i cant access the administrative options
[04:42] <DettoAltrimenti> are there any good articles to read about the different commands you can use in the terminal?
[04:42] <DettoAltrimenti> !terminal
[04:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:42] <intelikey> Rob-West does     sudo echo working     ask for a password and then say "working"  ?
[04:43] <Rob-West> i havend tried it
[04:43] <intelikey> !cli | DettoAltrimenti
[04:43] <ubotu> DettoAltrimenti: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:43] <intelikey> ooops same factiod
[04:43] <intelikey> they changed that.
[04:43] <malik__> can any one help me with flash player in konqi?
[04:43] <intelikey> it had two other good links, and they changed it.
[04:44] <intelikey> Rob-West so open a konsole and try it.
[04:44] <intelikey> !flash9 | malik__
[04:44] <ubotu> malik__: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[04:45] <malik__> how do i do that?
[04:45] <shenmue> hi, can I operate on sqllite db of amarok directly?
[04:45] <malik__> do i type it in terminal?
[04:46] <Furesho> okay, so i'm in the process of upgrading..... last command i typed was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and what i got after about 15 minutes of gets & blah blah was this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36380/plain/  as you can see, there WAS a prompt but i screwed up in copying and ended the process. so, do i have to type that command again?
[04:47] <intelikey> malik__ you enable the 'backports' repo and use the package manager of your choice to install
[04:48] <flaccid> did menance_ sort out his problem?
[04:49] <intelikey> haven't seen him sense i got back flaccid
[04:51] <max_> are dual core processors a diffrent socket than single cores?
[04:51] <flaccid> ok cool
[04:51] <intelikey> !smp
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <intelikey> ubotu you are useless.
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you are useless. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <max_> haha
[04:52] <Jucato> msg kmenu
[04:52] <Jucato> err..
[04:52] <flaccid> google would be able to reveal that
[04:53] <intelikey> yeah but why have a bot if it doesn't do anything useful ???
[04:53] <DettoAltrimenti> does anyone know if ogg files work on an ipod
[04:53] <vorpal> DettoAltrimenti: no they don't
[04:53] <vorpal> :(
[04:53] <flaccid> it does. you just need to add the smp entry to the bot
[04:53] <flaccid> they do if you put linux on the ipd
[04:53] <flaccid> ipod
[04:53] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti there is a good page on that, lists good hardware...
[04:53] <intelikey> !mp3
[04:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:54] <intelikey> the last link ^
[04:54] <max_> are dual core processors a diffrent socket than single cores?
[04:55] <flaccid> don't repeat max__!
[04:55] <flaccid> have you even checked google
[04:55] <max_> yes
[04:55] <flaccid> you didn't even ask which processor
[04:55] <intelikey> google.com/linux :)
[04:56] <dave> how do you find out if you have the edgy version installed?
[04:57] <professor> hello all
[04:57] <intelikey> lsb-release
[04:57] <flaccid> max_: pretty simple. lookup the single core processor, see what socket it uses. then look up the dual core processor, see what socket it uses. then compare.
[04:57] <professor> Just started to use Ubuntu
[04:57] <intelikey> cat /etc/*release*
[04:57] <dave> intelikey: type that at the console?
[04:57] <professor> loving it can anyone give me some tips for it
[04:57] <intelikey> yep   either of them
[04:58] <max_> flaccid: thanks
[04:58] <the_hammer> hey all kubuntu 610 how to get wind32 codecs?
[04:58] <dave> DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper
[04:58] <dave> that means no huh?
[04:58] <intelikey> yep that means no
[04:58] <the_hammer> anyone?
[04:58] <debian_gnu_mc> dave: it means that youre running dapper
[04:58] <flaccid> !win32codecs
[04:58] <malik__> the_hammer: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <intelikey> !mp3
[04:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <debian_gnu_mc> the_hammer: you dont need them
[04:59] <dave> i have a cd which i think might install edgy. how do i check to see if it is edgy?
[04:59] <debian_gnu_mc> the_hammer: use mplayer instead
[04:59] <flaccid> the_hammer: what ubotu said
[04:59] <debian_gnu_mc> dave: what does uname -r say?
[04:59] <Jucato> dave: type "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[04:59] <dave> huh?
[04:59] <intelikey> vlc dude
[04:59] <Jucato> debian_gnu_mc: that only gives you the kernel version
[04:59] <debian_gnu_mc> dave: type uname -r in a terminal an give me the output
[04:59] <intelikey> Jucato he done got it.
[05:00] <debian_gnu_mc> Jucato: with the kernelversion i can thell which version of ubuntu he is running
[05:00] <dave> debian_gnu_mc: ok
[05:00] <intelikey> debian_gnu_mc he done got it.
[05:00] <Jucato> intelikey: I hear you :)
 DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper
 that means no huh?
 yep that means no
[05:00] <dave> dave@dave-desktop:~$ uname -r
[05:00] <dave> 2.6.15-26-386
[05:01] <dave> i have a cd in the drive that i think installs edgy... how do i check to see if it is edgy or dapper?
[05:01] <intelikey> and that tells me you are one kernel update behind dave
[05:01] <flaccid> that aint going to help dave
[05:01] <Jucato> debian_gnu_mc: true, but it's not always reliable. it may work now, but not always in the future (if a release would have the same kernel versions, or the kernel was upgraded immediately after installation). besides, it's not the correct command to find out the release version.
[05:02] <the_hammer> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package
[05:02] <malik__> hey guyz how do i enable backports repo for edgy?
[05:02] <debian_gnu_mc> Jucato: i know,but atm it works flawlessly
[05:02] <flaccid> !w32codecs
[05:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:02] <the_hammer> why me i always get that happening
[05:02] <flaccid> the_hammer: have you got the repos enabled
[05:02] <debian_gnu_mc> the_hammer: you can use mplayer,so you dont need the w32codecs which you should not use for political reasons
[05:03] <flaccid> debian_gnu_mc: political? wtf
[05:03] <Jucato> debian_gnu_mc: true. but you're not teaching him how to find out on his own what his release version is. if he knows only "uname -r", he'll have to rely on someone else to tell him if the kernel is for Dapper, Edgy, or whatever
[05:03] <intelikey> flaccid should not use for general protest reasons then  :)
[05:03] <flaccid> the_hammer: you need seveas repos enabled
[05:03] <intelikey>           - But please use free formats if you can:
[05:03] <intelikey>           https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:03] <flaccid> intelikey: heh. maybe.
[05:04] <intelikey> and you can.
[05:04] <debian_gnu_mc> Jucato: thats true,what would be the better way?
[05:04] <ironfroggy> are there any tools that can compare files of a package with atimes to find packages i dont use?
[05:04] <flaccid> and uname -r is being done on his system, not the cd... so..
[05:04] <Jucato> debian_gnu_mc: I already gave it: lsb_release -a
[05:04] <debian_gnu_mc> Jucato: thank you,ill remember that
[05:04] <the_hammer> ill show u a paste pf my repos
[05:05] <flaccid> the_hammer: no. read the page from !mp3 and enable seveas
[05:05] <Jucato> the_hammer: go to that RestrictedFormats page, then scroll down to the section about Windows Media. there are instructions on how to get and install w32codecs
[05:05] <intelikey> <-- non-conformist or what ?
[05:05] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~]  lsb_release -a
[05:05] <intelikey> none
[05:05] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~] 
[05:05] <intelikey> :)
[05:05] <Jucato> intelikey: definitely non-conformist :P
[05:05] <the_hammer> http://pastebin.ca/275012
[05:06] <Jucato> flaccid: the RestrictedFormats page doesn't have instructions for adding Seveas' repo
[05:06] <malik__> hey guyz how do i enable backports repo for edgy?
[05:06] <debian_gnu_mc> !backports
[05:06] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:06] <Jucato> the_hammer: w32codecs cannot be installed from the repositories
[05:06] <flaccid> Jucato: didn't say it did, Jucato :)
[05:06] <flaccid> they can't, Jucato? thats how i do it
 the_hammer: no. read the page from !mp3 and enable seveas <--- presumes that page has the instructions on how to enable
[05:07] <Jucato> sorry, let me rephrase
[05:07] <flaccid> no
[05:07] <intelikey> ah come on.   just cause i have no partitions  no swap no lsb info  root is mounted nosuid  and the entire system has been reconfigured   that doesn't make me a non-conformist does it ?
[05:07] <Jucato> the_hammer: w32codecs cannot be installed from the official Ubuntu repositories
[05:07] <flaccid> it doesn't not
[05:07] <flaccid> it says AND enable..
[05:07] <flaccid> !repos > the_hammer
[05:07] <Jucato> flaccid: which means "go to the !mp3 page" and "enable seveas" goes together
[05:08] <Jucato> semantics...
[05:08] <flaccid> no it means enable seveas.. doesn't say how to
[05:08] <flaccid> semantics has nothing to do with it
[05:08] <flaccid> this is grammer
[05:08] <flaccid> err grammar
[05:08] <debian_gnu_mc> why should one use w32codecs? mplayer runs perfect here and does not need them
[05:08] <Jucato> which is as informative as saying "go to Google and enable seveas"
[05:08] <intelikey> me grammer has been dead for many years now...
[05:08] <flaccid> debian_gnu_mc: who wan'ts to use mplayer? not me
[05:09] <Jucato> debian_gnu_mc: one word: "choice"
[05:09] <debian_gnu_mc> flaccid: why?
[05:09] <flaccid> Jucato: i pasted him the repos page which says how to enable...
[05:09] <flaccid> because its crap, debian_gnu_mc
[05:09] <intelikey> vlc !
[05:09] <flaccid> yes choice is important
[05:09] <flaccid> ones right to choose...
[05:09] <debian_gnu_mc> Jucato: one word "freedom" :)
[05:09] <thomas> hey guys i'm having trouble finding how to change my mouse sensitivity
[05:10] <intelikey> thomas it's in kcontrol
[05:10] <Jucato> and?
[05:10] <intelikey> Jucato can dirrect that thomas
[05:10] <Jucato> isn't he free to choose what he wants to install or what he wants to use to play his media?
[05:10] <debian_gnu_mc> Jucato: of course
[05:10] <Jucato> intelikey: no I can't
[05:10] <flaccid> then respect my right, debian_gnu_mc :)
[05:10] <debian_gnu_mc> Jucato: i did not mean to be offensive
[05:11] <intelikey> you can.   whether or not you will is another Q
[05:11] <Jucato> heh
[05:11] <intelikey> :)
[05:11] <intelikey> we all know you know where everything is in kcontrol
[05:11] <Jucato> thomas: if you're on Edgy: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> Advanced tab. on Daper, System Settings -> Mouse -> Advanced tab
[05:12] <Jucato> if that's the kind of mouse sensitivity settings you were looking for
[05:12] <debian_gnu_mc> flaccid: a famous person once said "I dont like you opinion but i'll fight for you to keep it"
[05:12] <debian_gnu_mc> sorry for my bad english btw
[05:12] <flaccid> debian_gnu_mc: and another famouse person said "If you don't like my opionions, I have others"
[05:12] <intelikey> a famous person once said <--- whom ?
[05:12] <debian_gnu_mc> intelikey: dunno
[05:13] <the_hammer> after all that everything thats there was already there
[05:13] <thomas> kcontrol meaning system settings right
[05:13] <flaccid> debian_gnu_mc: i don't know who your famous person was, but it sounds like something an idiot like george w. bush would say
[05:13] <Jucato> thomas: er no..
[05:13] <debian_gnu_mc> flaccid: why?
[05:13] <Jucato> thomas: well, not exactly. but almost similar
[05:13] <vorpal> Jucato: it is freaky you can say where things are in kcontrol off the top of your head... AND for multiple versions of kubuntu
[05:13] <thomas> btw how do you do the thomas: think
[05:13] <thomas> thing
[05:13] <thomas> i forgot
[05:13] <flaccid> why what
[05:13] <Jucato> vorpal: lol!
[05:13] <Jucato> :)
[05:13] <thomas> how do u auto name
[05:14] <intelikey> thomas yes system settings in the kmenu is a short cut to sections of the kcontrol app.  you can run  kcontrol from the command line as well.
[05:14] <Jucato> thomas: type in a few letters of the nick then press Tab
[05:14] <debian_gnu_mc> flaccid: why do think that saying is stupid?
[05:14] <Jucato> intelikey: yeah, I just tend not to try to confuse too much by telling them to run kcontrol without telling them how, since kcontrol isn't visible by default
[05:14] <flaccid> because its an oxymoron
[05:15] <debian_gnu_mc> flaccid: dunno what that means
[05:15] <vorpal> I disagree with what you have to say but will fight to the death to protect your right to say it." - Voltaire
[05:15] <Zamber_aw> 5 in the morning :P
[05:15] <debian_gnu_mc> vorpal: yeah that was what i meant
[05:15] <thomas> intelikey: yea i was inthere already but which one changes it?
[05:15] <thomas> intelikey: theres so many things
[05:15] <Jucato> not exactly the same meaning debian_gnu_mc
[05:15] <thomas> intelikey: i'm confused
[05:15] <intelikey> Jucato i don't guess i've ever seen a "default" kmenu  then.    in system settings it alwasy has settings at the top which is the venella kcontrol.
[05:16] <flaccid> debian_gnu_mc: then that makes sense now :)
[05:16] <Jucato> intelikey: huh?
[05:16] <debian_gnu_mc> well,sorry ^^
[05:16] <debian_gnu_mc> im trying to improve my english :)
[05:16] <Jucato> debian_gnu_mc: "I'll fight for you to *keep* it
[05:16] <debian_gnu_mc> and its 5 AM here ...
[05:16] <Jucato> that could be interpreted differently
[05:16] <vorpal> debian_gnu_mc: what's your native language?
[05:16] <Jucato> as in fight for you to "keep it to yourself"
[05:16] <flaccid> yeah usually pasting the original quote is a good idea :)
[05:16] <debian_gnu_mc> vorpal: german
[05:16] <flaccid> ah
[05:17] <flaccid> sweet
[05:17] <debian_gnu_mc> but i am no german,im from austria
[05:17] <flaccid> das bass ist sick!
[05:17] <Jucato> Sound of Music...
[05:17] <flaccid> ah cool
[05:17] <debian_gnu_mc> "das bass ist sick!" doenst make sense to me
[05:17] <Jucato> eidelweiss... eidelweiss...
[05:17] <vorpal> lol I love how german speakers from Austria or switziland or where ever are so quick to say that they are not germans
[05:18] <Jucato> (heh, talk about getting -offtopic)
[05:18] <Jucato> thomas: were you able to find it already?
[05:18] <debian_gnu_mc> vorpal: you know there are many stereotypes about germans
[05:18] <thomas> Jucato: yes
[05:18] <Elf> heil Hitler
[05:18] <thomas> Jucato: thanks
[05:18] <flaccid> yeah thats coz my german is bad
[05:18] <Jucato> thomas: ok. thought you were still lost
[05:18] <flaccid> like realllllly bad
[05:18] <thomas> Jucato: i was stupid because i didnt know which one did it anyway its just a different gui and stuff than windows so thats why
[05:18] <Jucato> oooh.... a German Elf?
[05:18] <debian_gnu_mc> vorpal: i've been to france once,they guys didnt talk to me till i told them that i'm no german
[05:18] <Elf> nope
[05:18] <Jucato> that was a joke, btw
[05:19] <thomas> thanks jucato and intelikey
[05:19] <flaccid> i was trying to say "the bass is sick"
[05:19] <flaccid> don'[t know the slang for sick in german either
[05:19] <Elf> vorpal: quit slapping me, I stole this nick from a Russian
[05:19] <Jucato> you're probably a Middle-Earth Elft...
[05:19] <Jucato> er.. elf*
[05:19] <flaccid> anyway i guess i'm off-topic. but there aint many user probs atm
[05:19] <debian_gnu_mc> flaccid: krank
[05:19] <vorpal> elf: :)
[05:19] <debian_gnu_mc> flaccid: "der bass ist krank"
[05:19] <flaccid> oh yeah der instead of das
[05:19] <flaccid> thanks debian_gnu_mc
[05:20] <debian_gnu_mc> flaccid: np
[05:20] <Jucato> thomas: you might want to try the search field in System Settings. it highlights the appropriate module where the setting can be found. In Edgy, it also tells you whether it's in Dapper or Edgy
[05:20] <intelikey> upper-world deon
[05:20] <debian_gnu_mc> that is one think that sucks in german,we've got der/die/das ,english just got "the" ,that is much easier
[05:20] <flaccid> i forgot about 'krank'. i'm going to use it tonight on my german g/f hehe
[05:20] <debian_gnu_mc> s/thinK/thing
[05:20] <flaccid> yeah i always just use das hehe
[05:21] <flaccid> like das glockenspiel <- good song. right enough off topic for me :)_
[05:21] <Jucato> (you guys should try Latin.. there are no articles...)
[05:21] <debian_gnu_mc> elvish is nice :)
[05:21] <Erich-K> What is a good audio CD burner? I need to burn a CD to use in my portable cd player.
[05:22] <flaccid> !k3b > Erich-K
[05:22] <Jucato> Quenya....
[05:22] <debian_gnu_mc> so ppl,g2g,it was a nice stay,cya
[05:22] <Jucato> Erich-K: K3b
[05:22] <flaccid> hehe
[05:22] <Elf> though K3b sucks with DVDs
[05:22] <Jucato> well, he did say "CD" :)
[05:22] <intelikey> cdr
[05:23] <intelikey> :)
[05:23] <flaccid> good thing about k3b is the updates
[05:23] <Elf> yeah, it will work fine for that
[05:23] <Jucato> Erich-K: if you're trying to burn MP3's as Audio CD, you need to install libk3b2-mp3
[05:23] <intelikey> !cdr
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <Elf> !DVD
[05:23] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:23] <Elf> !DVDR
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DVDR - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <Erich-K> Thanks Guys :)
[05:24] <intelikey> ohhh
[05:24] <intelikey> !cdw
[05:24] <intelikey> my bad.
[05:24] <ubotu> cdw: Tool for burning CD's - console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3-6 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 180 kB
[05:24] <Elf> DVDw
[05:24] <Jucato> bah! what I want to have in k3b an easy way to burn AVI to VCD format, without using some other program to convert to MPEG first...
[05:24] <Elf> !DVDw
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DVDw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <Elf> worthless bot
[05:24] <Elf> !junk
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about junk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Jucato> !ubotu | Elf
[05:25] <ubotu> Elf: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:25] <intelikey> !scrap
[05:25] <vorpal> !help > vorpal
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Elf> ahh, it can burn in hell
[05:25] <Jucato> !botabuse
[05:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[05:25] <Elf> hehehe
[05:26] <intelikey> dvd+rw-tools - DVD+-RW/R tools
[05:26] <intelikey> dvdrtools - DVD writing program
[05:26] <Jucato> !pornview
[05:26] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-6 (edgy), package size 217 kB, installed size 656 kB
[05:26] <Jucato> some people have a wicked sense of humor :)
[05:26] <intelikey> sexview ....
[05:26] <vorpal> read the discription of it in apt
[05:27] <vorpal> it is halerious
[05:27] <flaccid> gtg
[05:27] <Elf> no thanks
[05:27] <Elf> !automatix
[05:27] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:27] <Elf> the bot is rather biased, eh?
[05:28] <Jucato> "PornView is an image and movie viewer/manager with thumbnail previews. Additional features includes thumbnail caching, directory tree  views, adjustable zoom, and fullscreen view. Slideshows allow for unattended presentation of images for hands-free viewing. Pornview is written using GTK+
[05:28] <Jucato> .
[05:28] <Jucato> vorpal: you're right! it's hilarious! :)
[05:28] <Jucato> Elf: that's the common opinion of the Ubuntu devs
[05:28] <Furesho> okay, i'm STILL upgrading to edgy, i type the last command but i get what you see in this paste ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36385/
[05:28] <Furesho> what does it mean? and what do i do?
[05:28] <Elf> "breaks systems" is a shady phrase
[05:29] <intelikey> i guess i missed the humor in that.
[05:29] <Jucato> intelikey: you're not using an IRC client that has font formatting? (bold, italics, etc?)
[05:29] <keyo> I have a big white block on my screen from when i resized a window, how do i get rid of it(dapper)
[05:29] <intelikey> no
[05:30] <Jucato> intelikey: no wonder. the last sentence was what I was referring to, which is, btw, just a joke
[05:30] <intelikey> but the console supports that and it's the same there...
[05:30] <Jucato> (or a very poor attempt at humor at the expense of GTK+ :P )
[05:30] <vorpal> Furesho: what's your sources.list look like?
[05:30] <intelikey> ok.
[05:30] <Furesho> vorpal: one sec
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, that program sounds ridiculous
[05:31] <intelikey> i liked the duck joke   at least i got it.
[05:31] <Jucato> fine :P
[05:31] <intelikey> Q; what's the differance between a duck ?
[05:31] <intelikey> A; one leg is both the same.
[05:32] <vorpal> ??????????????/
[05:32] <vorpal> wha?
[05:32] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: the name sounds ridiculous :)
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> "hands free"
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> fapfapfap
[05:32] <intelikey> but it amazis me how many people fail to get that.
[05:32] <vorpal> intelikey: i don't get it
[05:33] <vorpal> not the pornview the duck
[05:33] <keyo> yea what a fuct joke
[05:33] <intelikey> also
[05:34] <Jucato> it's an old joke that almost everyone (including me) fails to get
[05:34] <vorpal> keyo: well we are in good company
[05:34] <Furesho> vorpal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36386/plain/ my sources.list
[05:34] <intelikey> Jucato you were already third on that list....  :)
[05:34] <Jucato> makes you feel so smart, doesn't it, intelikey?
[05:35] <intelikey> not really
[05:35] <intelikey> come to think of it.   i don't really need thing like that.....
[05:35] <bill57785> can I put the Kubuntu live CD onto a USB flash drive somehow?
[05:35] <intelikey> sure
[05:36] <bill57785> how would I go about doing it? if I just copy the contents over, I don't get any of the bott information
[05:36] <bill57785> *boot
[05:37] <keyo> my comp dons't like the edgy cd it won't boot from it
[05:37] <Jucato> bill57785: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:37] <intelikey> but wouldn't you rather install onto the flash drive ?
[05:37] <keyo> i get the loading bar then a black screen
[05:37] <bill57785> well, that might work I guess
[05:37] <intelikey> keyo what hardware ?
[05:37] <bill57785> what would be the difference though?
[05:37] <keyo> asus/via amd64
[05:38] <bill57785> and would it still be able to boot like a hard drive?
[05:38] <intelikey> bill57785 depends on what your desired end result is.
[05:38] <intelikey> yes it would boot if you install onto the flash
[05:38] <intelikey> read the link
[05:38] <Jucato> oh... seems to work only with the Alternate Install CD?
[05:38] <intelikey> surely he did.
[05:38] <vorpal> Furesho: is it a clean install and what were you doing when you got the error?
[05:39] <intelikey> Jucato space is probably an issue there.
[05:39] <keyo> why are there two cds, what is the purpose of the alt cd
[05:39] <bill57785> I guess installing to the stick would be best
[05:39] <vorpal> and is aiglx/compiz working?
[05:39] <intelikey> need about 3g for install from the live
[05:39] <Furesho> nope. upgrade from dapper to edgy. i had just typed the command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:39] <Furesho> wait.
[05:40] <Furesho> sorry. that wasn't the last thing i typed
[05:40] <Furesho> last thing i typed was sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[05:40] <Furesho> that's when i got that error
[05:40] <vorpal> !ubuntu-minimal
[05:40] <ubotu> ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[05:41] <Furesho> uhhhh.... huh?
[05:41] <intelikey> Jucato someone said that a page on the wiki said something about 10g minimum   for the install....   have you seen/heard anything about such non-sense ?
[05:41] <Jucato> :O
[05:41] <vorpal> nothing i just wasn't sure what that package did
[05:41] <Furesho> ah.
[05:42] <vorpal> so you'd just finished upgrading
[05:42] <keyo> !sinep
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sinep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <keyo> !anigav
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anigav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <vorpal> anyways the only thing i can think of is to comment out the aiglx repos and then try again
[05:43] <Furesho> i was about to finish. that line i typed was supposed to be the last step
[05:43] <Furesho> okay. i'll give that a shot
[05:44] <intelikey> oh i forgot something....
[05:46] <intelikey> well that was short.
[05:46] <vorpal> Fruesho: if that doesn't work go into aptitude (or synaptic/adept/whatever) and see what dependency problems xorg is having and try to work them out manually (not fun)
[05:47] <vorpal> i think i left out a "work" after doesn't
[05:47] <vorpal> what no
[05:48] <vorpal> ignore me
[05:48] <vorpal> i'm going mad
[05:48] <intelikey> interesting.....  dpkg - warning: while removing ubuntu-keyring, directory `/usr/share/keyrings' not empty so not removed.
[05:49] <vorpal> well obviously you have a keyring
[05:49] <intelikey> ls /usr/share/keyrings
[05:49] <intelikey> ubuntu-archive-removed-keys.gpg
[05:49] <intelikey> not now.
[05:51] <malik_> does any one know how to cleanup the downloaded packages from HDD after installation in kubuntu?
[05:52] <intelikey> krazy    remove ubuntu-*    wants to remove libc6
[05:52] <vorpal> malik_: what downloaded packages?
[05:52] <intelikey> malik_ sure
[05:52] <intelikey> sudo apt-get clean
[05:53] <HabaKKuk> hell
[05:53] <intelikey> hell to you too HabaKKuk
[05:54] <HabaKKuk> ;)
[05:54] <malik_> vorpla: like when i downloaded amarock with apt-get n installed i think it left the package on the HDD coz next time when i installed amarock afet uninstalling it ..........apt-get didnt download anything it just str8 away installed the darn thing
[05:54] <HabaKKuk> malik_: u are right then
[05:54] <HabaKKuk> but its amarok without c
[05:54] <HabaKKuk> ;)
[05:54] <vorpal> oh then what intelikey said
[05:54] <HabaKKuk> at leas in my distro
[05:55] <malik_> so how do i go abt clanin the mess apt-get is leavin behind n takin up space on HDD?
[05:55] <intelikey> malik_ or you could  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[05:55] <intelikey> am i lagging that bad ?
[05:55] <vorpal> sudo apt-get clean
[05:57] <intelikey> vorpal that's a few strokes shorter but does the same thing.      errr well one could add  ^/partial/*   and it would do exactly the same.
[05:59] <malik_> it is askin me................rm: remove write-protected regular empty file `/var/cache/apt/archives/lock'?.............should i click yes?
[06:00] <intelikey> yes
[06:00] <intelikey> doesn't matter really.
[06:00] <malik_> n one more thing .........is intelikey n ubotu are comp bot?...............or real ppl?
[06:01] <intelikey> no
[06:01] <intelikey> !bot
[06:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:01] <vorpal> clean  clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file
[06:01] <vorpal>               from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/. When  APT  is  used  as  a  dselect(8)
[06:01] <vorpal>               method,  clean  is  run  automatically. Those who do not use dselect will likely want to run apt-get clean
[06:01] <vorpal>               from time to time to free up disk space.
[06:01] <vorpal> what does the lock file do and why doesn't clean get rid of it?
[06:02] <triki> !lockfiles
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lockfiles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <intelikey> vorpal it's just a check point for the package manager to make sure no other process is using the dir
[06:02] <malik_> i donno it just kicked me out
[06:02] <triki> !lock files
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock files - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <malik_> so ubotu is a comp bot but intelikey is not?
[06:03] <intelikey> if lock is in use (open) then other package managers fail to start.
[06:03] <vorpal> thanks
[06:03] <intelikey> np
[06:03] <triki> lock files ae in place when som daemons run
[06:04] <triki> they don't always go away after daemon ends
[06:04] <intelikey> triki the one in question was /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[06:04] <triki> then you need to blow it away manually
[06:04] <intelikey> and it never "goes away"
[06:04] <triki> which one ?
[06:06] <intelikey> it's not used the same as lock files in /var/lock/   but affects the result,
[06:06] <triki> do you know what program is using it ?
[06:06] <intelikey> mmmm affect   or   effect   i can never keep those two streight.
[06:07] <intelikey> triki apt   when it's in use.
[06:07] <triki> apt-get ?
[06:07] <intelikey> yes
[06:07] <vorpal> the affect is that it effects the result
[06:07] <vorpal> or maybe it's the other way round...
[06:07] <triki> do you have the gui open ?
[06:07] <intelikey> vorpal you too eh
[06:08] <intelikey> triki no
[06:08] <HabaKKuk> hey, would someone take a look at my website and check if its wrking properly? its my first page and just want be sure its fine
[06:08] <triki> so when you go to open adept it complains about a lock file ?
[06:08] <vorpal> where is it
[06:08] <intelikey> but you are really spinning your wheels triki    scroll up and read what lead into this discussion.
[06:08] <vorpal> and if you say pron.com i'll slap you
[06:08] <intelikey> triki no.
[06:09] <triki> lol ok
[06:09] <intelikey> triki only if you have another package manager running   but the lock file is always there.
[06:09] <HabaKKuk> no ! :D\
[06:09] <intelikey> unless you rm it.
[06:09] <vorpal> :)
[06:09] <HabaKKuk> vorpal: www.thediamondpixels.com
[06:10] <intelikey> HabaKKuk i'll look from the console...
[06:10] <HabaKKuk> from the console u wouldnt see nothign ad i just anted to make sure is graphic set correctly nd stuff
[06:11] <HabaKKuk> ;)
[06:11] <intelikey> HabaKKuk i get a [usemap]   it seems to work ok.
[06:11] <HabaKKuk> al;rite then
[06:11] <HabaKKuk> thanks
[06:11] <intelikey> np
[06:12] <intelikey> the [usemap]  in lodge doesn't work.
[06:12] <max_> anyone use beryl
[06:12] <intelikey> nor diary HabaKKuk
[06:13] <Furesho> done
[06:13] <Furesho> finally upgraded.
[06:13] <HabaKKuk> hm..
[06:13] <HabaKKuk> do u see source code?
[06:13] <Furesho> now.... how to get all that fancy schmancy beryl stuff installed?
[06:13] <vorpal> Furesho: i was getting worried since you were gone so long
[06:14] <max_> anyone use beryl
[06:14] <vorpal> HabaKKuk: works in elinks, w3m, lynx and konqi
[06:14] <HabaKKuk> better than nothing
[06:14] <HabaKKuk> :)
[06:14] <Furesho> took a bit cuz i left the cd in unattended when i rebooted
[06:14] <intelikey> HabaKKuk the only ones that do work are main and membership    no error just clicking the [usemap]  does nothing.
[06:14] <Furesho> so it started up via live cd
[06:15] <Furesho> but i'm okay. and successfully upgraded! ^__^
[06:15] <vorpal> Furesho: did you have it working in dapper?
[06:15] <Furesho> whadaya mean? i'm running edgy now
[06:15] <HabaKKuk> intelikey: strange, the source is same in each
[06:15] <intelikey> HabaKKuk i'm talking about the [usemap]   in main  all addresses work    and in membership both work.
[06:16] <HabaKKuk> dunno what is the usemap
[06:16] <HabaKKuk> :P
[06:16] <vorpal> did you have fancy beryl stuff working under dapper (beofre you upgraded)
[06:16] <Furesho> ohhhh. nope.
[06:16] <Furesho> never did get around to doin it
[06:16] <intelikey> the sitemap  navigation map
[06:16] <Furesho> i started to, but stopped due to laziness
[06:16] <intelikey> the pulldown menu
[06:16] <vorpal> lol
[06:16] <HabaKKuk> ic
[06:16] <Furesho> ...and cuz i hear that it's only 2 command lines in edgy
[06:16] <HabaKKuk> ok lemme work on it
[06:17] <intelikey> k
[06:17] <HabaKKuk> ;)
[06:17] <HabaKKuk> thanks
[06:17] <intelikey> np
[06:17] <Furesho> so now.... onward! to beryl!
[06:17] <vorpal> HabaKKuk: can i suggest not using pics of text but using actual text
[06:17] <bill57785__> what's the command to update your distro?
[06:18] <noiesmo> bill57785__, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:18] <HabaKKuk> vorpal: the thing is not everyone has a font i put there
[06:18] <HabaKKuk> using pics im sure text is in wanted shape
[06:19] <vorpal> HabaKKuk: the thing is not everyone has graphical browsers
[06:19] <vorpal> the blind for a start
[06:19] <HabaKKuk> lol, right :D
[06:19] <vorpal> google for a second
[06:19] <intelikey> HabaKKuk i'm no html hacker but probably the java code above the   <!--HEADER-->    if i had to guess.
[06:19] <HabaKKuk> i will take a notice
[06:20] <HabaKKuk> thanks guys
[06:20] <intelikey> np
[06:20] <vorpal> So what is the site?
[06:20] <vorpal> what's so exclusive about it?
[06:20] <intelikey>  www.thediamondpixels.com
[06:20] <vorpal> yeah i've been. it doesn't say much
[06:20] <intelikey> oh you done had the address...
[06:20] <intelikey> yeah
[06:20] <HabaKKuk> about selling pixels ;)
[06:21] <intelikey> i'm still lagging just a little
[06:21] <vorpal> i've got more than enough of my own thankyou very much
[06:21] <intelikey> that sounds better than saying i'm still retarted....
[06:22] <intelikey> s/te/de/
[06:22] <HabaKKuk> vorpal: not at all :)
[06:22] <HabaKKuk> ok gtg
[06:23] <HabaKKuk> take care
[06:23] <HabaKKuk> both of u
[06:23] <HabaKKuk> ;)
[06:23] <Gide0n> hi chanel
[06:23] <Gide0n> I need some help here
[06:24] <intelikey> is chanel here ???
[06:24] <Gide0n> I'm not being able to install
[06:24] <Gide0n> java
[06:24] <Gide0n> in kubuntu
[06:24] <lotusleaf>  Is anyone using compiz in Kubuntu? It works well, I haven't had a single crash, but I have to use gtk-window-decorator which works fine, but Kubuntu just looks a little gnomish now ;P plus my desktop squares on the panel are now stretched across it and are several inches each.. :P
[06:24] <Gide0n> I've got some instructions
[06:24] <intelikey> !java
[06:24] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:24] <Gide0n> and I have had them work before
[06:24] <bill57785__> how do I format a USB drive with fat32? I can do ext3 already, but I don't want that
[06:25] <intelikey> bill57785__ not going to install linux on vfat are you ?
[06:25] <Gide0n> I've uncomented all of the repositories I've found in my kubuntu
[06:25] <intelikey> bill57785__ sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/<devicenode>
[06:25] <Gide0n> and I cannot seem to find that java package
[06:25] <Gide0n> btw I'm looking for sun java
[06:26] <intelikey> uncommented and updated the cache ?
[06:26] <vorpal> bill57785__: i think mkfs.vfat
[06:26] <Gide0n> yes
[06:26] <Gide0n> I found some instructions that worked before
[06:26] <Gide0n> but i get stuck when trying to install
[06:26] <vorpal> intelikey: stop beating me to everything damn you!!!!one111!!!
[06:26] <intelikey> Gide0n use apt-get   in the konsole
[06:26] <vorpal> :p
[06:26] <triki> vorpal: did you just update to edgy ?
[06:27] <Gide0n> java-package
[06:27] <vorpal> umm... a few days ago
[06:27] <intelikey> Gide0n sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:27] <intelikey> but that's in multiverse.
[06:27] <triki> i just did and now i'm getting same error :P
[06:27] <intelikey> !multiverse | Gide0n
[06:27] <ubotu> Gide0n: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:28] <Gide0n> thank you ubotu
[06:28] <Gide0n> I will try it
[06:28] <vorpal> triki: i didn't get any error. i think you are talking to the wrong person
[06:28] <intelikey> if you would have read what the bot said eariler i wouldn't have had to repeete it.
[06:28] <vorpal> what's the error
[06:29] <triki> it's fixed
[06:30] <triki> lock file was in place
[06:30] <intelikey> it's always there.
[06:30] <intelikey> we just did that bit.
[06:32] <malik_> oki guyz i have one more problem..............amarok plays mp3 files with alotta hickups
[06:32] <intelikey> well i'll leave it with "you'ens"     pronounced the plural of  " u n "     my ole granny said that all the time,   you'ens be good now...    you'ens act heave and play togather without fighting...
[06:32] <malik_> i mean it will play for 10sec n the puse for one or two n then keep playin n pauing n playing
[06:33] <malik_> any ideas?
[06:33] <noiesmo> malik_, for amarok and mp3 check you have this installed sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs
[06:33] <vorpal> cya intelikey
[06:34] <intelikey> malik_ heh my idea on that would be ditch amarok and install vlc and sox...   :)     but that's not what you want.
[06:35] <Alter-Ego> any good photo retouch app for linux ?
[06:35] <noiesmo> !gimp | Alter-Ego
[06:35] <ubotu> Alter-Ego: An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[06:35] <malik_> personally im happy with kaffeine n i like its recording feature so i dont wanna use vlc but if there is a good mp3 player for kubuntu which can add allmy mp3z (21gig) im all ears
[06:35] <Gide0n> ubotu thank you very much
[06:35] <Gide0n> it worked
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you very much - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <malik_> coz amarok can add my collection......keeeeeeeps ranting abt a broken package called taglib..........installed few times over but no affect
[06:36] <noiesmo> malik_, are you on dapper
[06:36] <malik_> edgy
[06:37] <noiesmo> malik_, me two and me amarok roks
[06:37] <malik_> fully updated tho im not sure if im using right set of repos
[06:37] <Jucato> malik_: Dapper or Edgy? and what's the version of Amarok?
[06:38] <malik_> 1.4.4 amarok n it really annoying that it cant add my collection
[06:38] <malik_> im on kubuntu edgy 6.10
[06:38] <Jucato> hm...
[06:38] <Gide0n> good night chanel
[06:39] <Gide0n> thank you very much once more !
[06:39] <noiesmo> malik_, I am using kde-355 repo for me kde its deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 edgy main
[06:41] <malik_> oooh ..............well all the sites i went to chk my repos they were usin ubuntu repos
[06:41] <Jucato> noiesmo: Edgy already has KDE 3.5.5 by default
[06:41] <Jucato> malik_: that's correct.
[06:41] <malik_> well im already on edgy 3.5.5 fully updated plus amarok 1.4.4
[06:41] <Jucato> kubuntu.org is a special repo that contains special releases for KDE, Amarok, and KOffice, that couldn't be included into the main Ubuntu repos (because of release freeze)
[06:43] <noiesmo> Jucato, ok thaks for info
[06:44] <malik_> so is there any good mp3 payer for edgy besides amarok which can add my mp3z?
[06:45] <poisson> Hi. How can i know if my Graphic Card supports glx?
[06:46] <triki> xmms
[06:46] <triki> !xmms
[06:46] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:47] <poisson> Hi. How can i know if my Graphic Card supports glx?
[06:47] <malik_> i personallyt would rythembox but isnt it for genome?
[06:48] <maryen> hello!
[06:50] <maryen> whoa, why is this channel so dead
[06:50] <maryen> ?
[06:50] <malik_> hi
[06:50] <malik_> i donno mate
[06:50] <malik_> it okie just b4 u popped in
[06:50] <malik_> :)
[06:50] <maryen> lol ; ;
[06:51] <malik_> so what brings u here?
[06:51] <poisson> help ?
[06:51] <maryen> just trying to help people
[06:51] <malik_> whats glx?
[06:51] <maryen> what do you need poisson?
[06:51] <poisson> OpenGl
[06:52] <maryen> k
[06:52] <maryen> glx is usually used in reference to accelerated desktops
[06:52] <poisson> ^ ^
[06:52] <maryen> dunno what it stands for though
[06:52] <maryen> poisson: you need opengl support or were you answering his question?
[06:53] <poisson> I need to know if my card (on board/nvidia) supports OpenGl ^ ^
[06:53] <maryen> what is the card's name? do you know?
[06:53] <malik_> n i need to know if Rythmbox can be installed on kubunty edgy 6.10 n will work properly when it comes to playin mp3z?
[06:54] <poisson> yeah, a second plis im goint to open my computer =P
[06:54] <maryen> rythmbox? one sec
[06:54] <triki> poisson: glxinfo | grep direct
[06:54] <maryen> yes, rythmbox can be installed on kubuntu
[06:55] <maryen> and it should require the same amount of setup it did on ubuntu for mp3w
[06:56] <malik_> i cant find it with apt-get
[06:56] <malik_> where do i got download it?
[06:56] <poisson> NVIDIA NF410-A2 GeForce 6100-M9
[06:57] <poisson> and the best news, im still alive
[06:57] <naught101> hey all
[06:57] <naught101> is it normal for kftpgrabber to crash on a segmentation fault?
[06:57] <maryen> you are doing 'sudo apt-get install rhythmbox' right?
[06:57] <malik_> yes
[06:57] <malik_> n it cant find package
[06:58] <Weam> so, i just installed kubuntu 6.06. the installation went fine, my partitions etc went fine. when im booting the computer right after the computer freezes at GRUB Loading Stage 1.5 - GRUB Hard Disk Error. i tried to look at the forums but everyone that has the same problem has problems with dualboot or something like that. Im not using dualboot, my whole hd is used for kubuntu. i got a s-ata disk if it could be anything with 
[06:58] <maryen> making sure you're spelling it with the h
[06:58] <maryen> poisson: how old is your computer?
[06:59] <maryen> malik_: make sure you're not mispelling rhythmbox
[06:59] <maryen> because theres no reason for it not to be showing up
[06:59] <Weam> anyone saw my message or was it too much text for IRC to display at once?
[07:00] <poisson> 1 year and a half
[07:00] <maryen> Weam: saw your message, will help or try to in a sec
[07:00] <Weam> aight, thanks
[07:01] <malik_> maryaen: i got the spellings wrong now it has found it but its gonna bring alotta gstreamer packages....................wud it screw with my browser settings in any way shape or form?
[07:01] <maryen> poisson: http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.7.3-0ubuntu2_all.deb download and install this, then run it and install your videocard driver
[07:02] <maryen> you run it by typing 'envy' into the terminal
[07:02] <maryen> malik_: nah it should be fine
[07:02] <poisson> Thank you maryen, casual i was checking that site
[07:03] <malik_> so after its installed how do i install the mp3 support for the rhythmbox?
[07:03] <malik_> or it will be done during the installation automatically?
[07:05] <maryen> malik_: well, if its gstreamer it would probably be the gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse package
[07:05] <maryen> that or the ugly package
[07:05] <maryen> you probably need to enable all repositories in order to get those though
[07:06] <maryen> Weam: your problem is a bit too tough for me, try asking fdoving when he gets on
[07:06] <Weam> aight, ill do that.
[07:06] <Weam> ty
[07:06] <maryen> np
[07:07] <maryen> do you know how to enable the universe and multiverse repos malik_?
[07:07] <malik_> not really
[07:08] <malik_> but i think when i installed all the repo thingies they were in the list i copied from the website http://easylinux.info
[07:09] <maryen> that would do it
[07:10] <maryen> be sure to install the gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse packages if they aren't already installed then
[07:10] <maryen> they probably contain the mp3 codecs for gstreamer
[07:10] <Jucato> !mp3
[07:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:11] <Jucato> that page contains the full list of what gstreamer plugins support which media tyhpe
[07:11] <maryen> Weam: jucato would be a good person to ask about your problem as well :)
[07:11] <Jucato> :O
[07:11] <Weam> oh ok
[07:12] <Jucato> no I'm not familiar with GRUB, partitioning, etc.
[07:12] <Jucato> if I were, I would have answered his question earlier :)
[07:12] <maryen> :/
[07:12] <acatalan> installation help please:  I installed kubuntu, and I get the L 99 99 99 99... problem (because lilo is in my boot record? not sure why that is after the installation process)  anyways, so I booted the live CD again, mount /dev/sda2 /mnt (my /, sda1 is windows), then I `chroot /mnt`, and try to run grub-install /dev/sda1, but my chroot'd environment doesnt think /dev/sda1 exists.  note that the live cd environment, before I
[07:12] <Weam> :<
[07:12] <acatalan> chroot'd `fdisk -l` showed that /dev/sda1 was known.  help?
[07:14] <malik_> oki im looking at gstreamer thingies n they are sayin bad multiverse package is not very good whereas ugly multiverse package of gstreamer is good
[07:14] <malik_> which one shud i install or both are needed?
[07:14] <maryen> eh... i'm not that great with partitioning problems either, especially lilo related ones. I would suggest a backup of your important stuff and reformat for your linux partitions
[07:14] <malik_> for rhythmbox mp3 player
[07:14] <maryen> do ugly
[07:16] <maryen> gstreamer is pretty new, personally i prefer players that use xine engine
[07:17] <maryen> !releases
[07:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[07:17] <maryen> !feisty
[07:17] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:18] <maryen> hmm? did feisty get switched to a 6 month release?
[07:18] <maryen> i thought it was supposed to be a year
[07:19] <Jucato> maryen: what do you mean?
[07:19] <malik_> oki its not playin or importing any thing
[07:20] <Jucato> maryen: development is always 6 months. normal support is 18 months. LTS gets 305 years support
[07:20] <Jucato> (whether I think the 6 month release is enough is beyond the point...)
[07:20] <maryen> i had heard that it was supposed to be a year development this time due to the rapid release of edgy
[07:21] <maryen> and malik_, i would really suggest using something like xmms or amarok
[07:21] <maryen> they're just much easier to deal with
[07:21] <Jucato> maryen: no. feisty won't be affected. edgy was affected because dapper was late.
[07:21] <maryen> plus amarok will install your mp3 support for you
[07:21] <maryen> ah
[07:21] <Jucato> edgy is 2 months short because dapper was almost 2 months late
[07:21] <maryen> well good news then
[07:21] <maryen> i can't wait till feisty
[07:21] <malik_> well i have amarok but it wont add my mp3 to the collection keeps sayin that taglib package is broken
[07:22] <Jucato> heh you'll have to wait a good 4 months then :)
[07:22] <malik_> i uninstalled n reinstalled several time but no avail
[07:22] <Jucato> malik_: I suggest browsing the forums. there might be similar problems
[07:22] <maryen> what's the error say exactly malik?
[07:22] <malik_> i can access my mp3z thru files tab in amarock but not thru collection tab
[07:22] <Jucato> iirc, this was an issue in an earlier release of Amarok, but not in 1.4.4
[07:23] <maryen> Jucato: maybe if he purged the taglib package?
[07:23] <Jucato> it's worth a try
[07:23] <maryen> what's the error say exactly malik_?
[07:24] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get remove --purge libtag1c2a" then "sudo apt-get install libtag1c2a"
[07:25] <casev01> what is the meaning of purge in that case?
[07:25] <malik_> it say there were too many erreors n may be your Taglib package is broken n causing this. try replacing the package n then try to add the files to the collection
[07:25] <maryen> bah, how you know the exact taglib package for amarok Jucato
[07:25] <Jucato> maryen: apt-cache search libtag :P
[07:26] <Jucato> malik_: I believe that was the bug that was present in Amarok 1.4.1, iirc
[07:26] <Jucato> you might find useful information in the forums
[07:26] <maryen> casev01: to get rid of any configuration files it might use and also to delete the previously downloaded version, in case it's corrupted somehow
[07:27] <Jucato> casev01: but it doesn't remove configuration files from $HOME, you have to remove those manually if you want/need to
[07:27] <casev01> ah ok
[07:27] <maryen> Jucato: yeah, i've noticed that, why don't they have it delete home config files too?
[07:28] <Jucato> maryen: because it shouldn't :)
[07:28] <maryen> but it should ><! the tag's name is purge for god sake!
[07:28] <maryen> it should get rid of everything related to the target package
[07:28] <Jucato> well, it purges the root owned configurations :)
[07:29] <Jucato> well, it only purges what it installed.
[07:29] <maryen> hmm, well there needs to be a command to purge the home configurations too
[07:29] <Jucato> how would apt know that this particular file in this particular user is related to the package if it's not listed in the package's control files
[07:29] <Jucato> maryen: that would be problematic
[07:30] <maryen> because I've had some system breaking config problems from home config files
[07:30] <Jucato> who's home directory? remember that Linux is very multiuser-oriented
[07:30] <Jucato> that's the responsibility of the user then
[07:30] <maryen> maybe make it purge the listed username's files only
[07:30] <Jucato> or of the admin to find that out. not the responsibility of the program
[07:31] <maryen> plus i don't like having to discover what folders to nuke in order to fix my computer
[07:31] <triki> damn beryl is slick
[07:31] <maryen> like once something in my home folder was messing up gcc
[07:31] <Zamber> -Make me a snadwich
[07:31] <Jucato> simple solution: don't make any personal customizations. use the program defaults then
[07:31] <Zamber> -no!
[07:31] <DettoAltrimenti> can I use Metisse with kubuntu?
[07:31] <Zamber> -sudo mahe me a sandwich
[07:31] <Zamber> -ok...
[07:32] <maryen> you forgot the pass zamber
[07:32] <Zamber> :D
[07:32] <maryen> plus it would be 'sudo makemea --sandwich'
[07:32] <Jucato> somehow, humor is lost when you try to "rationalize" a joke :P
[07:33] <maryen> lol
[07:33] <maryen> just making this channel a lot more dull
[07:33] <maryen> plus humor belongs in the offtopic section!
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[07:34] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, you're not even in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:34] <Jucato> I didn't say I was going to transfer :)
[07:34] <Jucato> I'm just saying I'm leaving here, since humor doesn't belong here :P
[07:34] <Jucato> bah brb :P
[07:38] <malik_> its again downloadin 1.4.3 amarok from archive edgy repo........is it okie or shud i cancel it n install the latest version from amarok website?
[07:39] <malik_> jucato: its again downloadin 1.4.3 amarok from archive edgy repo........is it okie or shud i cancel it n install the latest version from amarok website?
[07:47] <Jucato> malik_: my bad. Edgy comes with Amarok 1.4.3 only. you need to add a special repo for Amarok 1.4.4
[07:48] <malik_> so 1.4.3 shud be okie from edgy repo?
[07:48] <Jucato> should be
[07:49] <tuandd> a
[07:49] <noiesmo> Jucato, was i right dude about amarok
[07:49] <Jucato> noiesmo: yes, except that the link you gave was for KDE 3.5.5
[07:50] <Jucato> I mean the repo
[07:50] <noiesmo> Jucato, k
[07:50] <malik_> well the whole ecercise was for nothin as it has returned the same error
[07:52] <Jucato> malik_: how about trying using a different Collection Database in Amarok? (Settings -> Configure Amarok)
[07:52] <malik_> i think if i wanna keep using this crappy version then i ll have to use files tab instead collection tab...........not a big loss thos specially whn u see that there is search option in that tab too
[07:53] <malik_> jucato: what do mean?
[07:54] <malik_> are u suggesting that i shud try other two options for database collection which are mysql and postgresql?
[07:54] <Jucato> um yeah... not really sure if they work, though...
[07:54] <Jucato> have you tried searching in the forums, btw?
[07:55] <Jucato> btw, how much/many mp3's are you trying to put into your collection?
[07:55] <Jucato> and where are they located? (presumably in /home?)
[07:56] <Jucato> I just successfully added a CD's worth of mp3's to my colllection right now
[07:56] <malik_> i think abt 23 gig in english n then i have ethinic music i wud say abt 7 gig
[07:57] <Jucato> ouch
[07:57] <Jucato> maybe it's having a hard time importing that much
[07:57] <Jucato> have you tried doing it batch by batch?
[07:57] <malik_> yea that cud be the reason............but none of the other player had that prob
[07:58] <malik_> when i was on fedora rhythmbox never gave me any grief or xmms for that matter
[07:58] <malik_> but i cant use em on kubuntu here can i?
[07:59] <noiesmo> malik_, yes you can use gnome apps on kubuntu
[07:59] <Jucato> you can use rhythmbox on Kubuntu. I'm just not sure about the codecs, as it uses gstreamer
[07:59] <malik_> yea i dont like gstreamers idea too much either
[07:59] <malik_> i mean i can make do with it
[07:59] <malik_> amarok i mean
[07:59] <Jucato> I'm not sure if you can set rhythmbox to use xine instead
[08:00] <malik_> but it wud have been really gr8 if it worked at its full ability
[08:00] <malik_> :)
[08:00] <Jucato> malik_: oh, you can probably ask in #amarok too
[08:00] <malik_> aaaaaaah oki
[08:00] <malik_> how do i get on there
[08:00] <malik_> just type amarok in channel window?
[08:00] <Jucato> just click on the #amarok name in my line
[08:01] <Jucato> or type /j #amarok
[08:01] <malik_> kewlies
[08:01] <Jucato> malik_: tell them your distro, Amarok version, then the exact error message, and how much mp3's you are trying to add
[08:01] <malik_> thanx alot mate
[08:01] <Jucato> I think it has something to do with the huge amount
[08:01] <malik_> i think so too
[08:02] <malik_> i ll try bit by bit...............but it scans all the folder all over again..........may be thats why it gets buggered.............plus i have mix type of files in there like wma n mp3 n rm n ram n tuff
[08:03] <Jucato> well, if they're not all under a single directory (they have separate directories) you can control which folders Amarok will scan
[08:07] <luca> hi everyone
[08:07] <luca> does someone know how to solve a 'missing kernel modules' installing error?
[08:09] <paul___> does anyone here use beryl
[08:11] <luca> paul_ I would if I could get my graphics card to work :(
[08:13] <malik__> whats beryl?
[08:14] <Jucato> !beryl | malik__
[08:14] <ubotu> malik__: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:15] <luca> has anyone had problems with linux-headers and kernel modules here?
[08:15] <crimsun> I haven't.
[08:15] <maryen> luca: use the envy install script, it should get your card running with the most recent drivers
[08:16] <luca> maryen: where can I find it?
[08:16] <maryen> http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.7.3-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[08:16] <maryen> there you go
[08:17] <maryen> install it by right clicking it and choosing install under the 'kubuntu package menu'
[08:18] <luca> already doing it thanks :D
[08:18] <maryen> oh yeah
[08:18] <luca> I hope it works, I have a intel 85x :S
[08:18] <maryen> intel?
[08:18] <luca> yep
[08:19] <luca> actually I am pretty much sure it won't function :(
[08:19] <maryen> sorry i shouldn't have presumed you were using an nvidia card
[08:19] <maryen> x.x
[08:19] <crimsun> yeah, installing the Nvidia drivers for an Intel graphics chipset will be futile.
[08:20] <luca> envy says card is not supported in fact :(
[08:20] <maryen> i'm not even sure how to get intel chipsets working, I thought they were well supported and Open-source drivers
[08:20] <luca> well ok
[08:20] <luca> I have the driver
[08:20] <luca> point is I am not able to install it
[08:20] <maryen> hmm
[08:20] <maryen> because of the header?
[08:20] <luca> it returns an error message saying that it needs the latest kernel modules
[08:21] <crimsun> don't bother installing drivers for Intel if you want to use Beryl.
[08:21] <luca> I guess so...but I have already installed the latest ones in the repos
[08:21] <crimsun> Just install the Beryl stuff.
[08:21] <luca> crimsun I want a graphics card working
[08:21] <maryen> does glx gears not work already luca?
[08:21] <crimsun> aren't you using an Intel graphics chipset?
[08:21] <luca> I am not even able to run googleearth or kooldock properly :(
[08:22] <luca> maryen let me try...
[08:22] <luca> is it in the official repos?
[08:22] <maryen> do glxgears --printfps i think
[08:22] <Jucato> single dash only maryen
[08:22] <maryen> bah!
[08:22] <Jucato> glxgears -printfps
[08:23] <Jucato> very un-bash-like
[08:23] <maryen> smarty pants
[08:23] <Jucato> glxgears is very un-bash-like :)
[08:23] <luca> well it kinda functions
[08:23] <luca> but the cursor flashes when i go over it...
[08:23] <maryen> hmm 9 beryl updates, but apt doesn't wanna give it to me
[08:24] <akrus> hello everyone :)
[08:24] <akrus> could someone recommend Mail Client?
[08:24] <maryen> luca, install gl-117 and try running it
[08:24] <luca> repos?
[08:24] <noiesmo> akrus, thunderbird
[08:24] <maryen> its in the free repos
[08:24] <akrus> I tried KMail, Evolution... Evolution is okay, but I want KDE Integration o_O
[08:24] <Jucato> kmail
[08:24] <maryen> if you can run it well, you have 3d acceleration
[08:24] <akrus> hm
[08:25] <luca> akrus: kontact or kmail
[08:25] <maryen> wth why did my beryl repo lose it's key????
[08:25] <akrus> maybe because it's updated :)
[08:25] <maryen> shh
[08:26] <maryen> thats kinda messed up, i shouldn't have to fix the key each update
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[08:26] <luca> by the way, I am using the vesa driver now...
[08:26] <crimsun> vesa driver does not support glx.
[08:26] <Jucato> (kontact isn't an e-mail client...)
[08:26] <maryen> er ok you're gonna need to switch to the built in intel drivers
[08:26] <akrus> fglrx <3
[08:26] <akrus> Jucato: KMail is a part of Kontact (?)
[08:27] <akrus> oh lol do you know what made me move to Linux? xD
[08:27] <maryen> argh! where is the new key!!
[08:27] <akrus> That's because of Windows Vista :D
[08:27] <Jucato> akrus: Kontact is just a sort of container that integrates various kdepim apps like kmail, korganizer, kaddressbook, etc
[08:27] <noiesmo> maryen, what repo
[08:27] <luca> maryen: how would I do it?
[08:27] <maryen> beryl repo
[08:27] <luca> maryen: sorry about beryl :(
[08:27] <akrus> Jucato: yeah :)
[08:27] <maryen>  deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[08:28] <maryen> luca 'dpkg-reconfigure --default xserver-xorg'
[08:28] <maryen> add sudo to that
[08:28] <akrus> in Windows Vista I had no 5.1 sound (only 2.1) and WebMoney did not work (only VMWare).. I installed the same VMWare with WebMoney and 5.1 works okay... Linux is better than Windows Vista with software & drivers xD
[08:28] <luca> maryen again?
[08:28] <maryen> hmm?
[08:29] <maryen> in that, select the intel driver, which should be named intel
[08:29] <maryen> also select what resolutions you want
[08:29] <luca> let me try...
[08:29] <maryen> and that should be it
[08:29] <noiesmo> maryen, repo infor here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[08:30] <maryen> noiesmo: still not working
[08:32] <maryen> trying to delete my key for that repo and reinstalling it
[08:32] <jongt> anyone installed 915resolution?
[08:32] <noiesmo> maryen, maybe check in beryl channel I have moved to the svn from Trevio's
[08:32] <maryen> that fixed it
[08:32] <maryen> hooray me!
[08:32] <niblets> Are there any FTP torrent programs that run on KDE?
[08:33] <akrus> FTP torrent?
[08:34] <niblets> like limewire
[08:34] <akrus> ah
[08:34] <akrus> aMule? :D
[08:34] <akrus> KTorrent for torrents
[08:34] <luca> maryen: seems to function, but I guess I will have to reboot
[08:34] <akrus> or Azureus
[08:35] <maryen> press ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:35] <maryen> luca:
[08:35] <niblets> Ktorrent is P2P, I need a FTP (file transfer protocol) torrent
[08:35] <niblets> Azureus, how can I get that?
[08:36] <Jucato> ftp torrent?
[08:36] <Jucato> you mean ftp client?
[08:36] <malik__> sudo apt-get install azureus
[08:36] <noiesmo> Jucato, lol he said like limewire
[08:37] <Jucato> ???
[08:37] <Jucato> oh well... terminologies... :P
[08:38] <maryen> testing new version of beryl
[08:38] <maryen> pray for me!
[08:38] <akrus> Azureus is same as KTorrent
[08:39] <akrus> if something like Limewire I remember something in the repos
[08:39] <niblets> maryen: Damn right I'll pray for you. I had such a weekend with that. no sleep for 36 hours just trying to get the bloody thing sorted
[08:39] <maryen> argh! glitches!!!
[08:39] <noiesmo> akrus, frostwire is like limewire
[08:39] <maryen> brb restarting my x-server
[08:39] <niblets> akrus: I just found a linux version of limewire, so I'm sorted now, thanks for the help anyway =D
[08:40] <akrus> :)
[08:40] <niblets> Thanks for input as well other peoples.
[08:40] <akrus> oh by the way :D
[08:40] <niblets> hm?
[08:41] <akrus> does kopete has any plugins except included?
[08:41] <akrus> I know only Skype support for Kopete but nothing else
[08:41] <maryen> I am back
[08:41] <akrus> maryen: wb
[08:41] <akrus> Beer load [                    /]  100% *ding*
[08:42] <abattoir> akrus: support for jingle isn't compiled in in default kubuntu packages
[08:42] <maryen> urgh how do i reset beryl to default settings?
[08:42] <niblets> akrus: I don't know, there pretty much s everything you need anyway, maybe Googlemessenger (or is that already included???)
[08:42] <akrus> Jabber is included :)
[08:43] <akrus> well, actually something like 'client detection' for Miranda
[08:44] <niblets> maryen: go to beryl settings manager, to the bottom left, a dropdown box will let you restore to defaults
[08:47] <maryen_> hmm
[08:47] <niblets> any workage?
[08:47] <maryen_> i don't like the new version of beryl
[08:47] <maryen_> i was hoping it would be less buggy
[08:47] <niblets> how new is new?
[08:47] <maryen_> like today new
[08:47] <maryen_> 0.13
[08:47] <niblets> wow
[08:47] <niblets> I didnt use thatone
[08:47] <maryen_> its more buggy than .12
[08:47] <maryen_> avoid it for now
[08:48] <niblets> I used last version. I will take your advise
[08:48] <niblets> .1.2 was buggy enough
[08:49] <maryen_> personally, I'm not using either version till some improvements in speed are made
[08:49] <maryen_> and by improvements I mean faster than my normal desktop
[08:49] <maryen_> :)
[08:49] <niblets> I only use it for eye candy if a non-linux user comes over, so I can show off =P
[08:50] <niblets> its got some fun features, but nothing specially useful
[08:50] <paolo> hi, where I can see the available ram?
[08:50] <maryen_> yeah same
[08:50] <maryen_> ksysguard
[08:50] <maryen_> paolo: ^
[08:50] <abattoir> paolo: or try 'free' in a terminal
[08:50] <niblets> ^^ does that work?
[08:50] <niblets> wow, it does
[08:51] <abattoir> (free -m) if you want info in MB
[08:51] <maryen_> indeed
[08:51] <paolo> maryen, but ksysguard shows me the "busy" ram, not the total ram
[08:51] <paolo> ok thnks abattoir
[08:51] <maryen_> kinfocenter should have that, plus other stuff
[08:51] <Jucato> kinfocenter also
[08:52] <abattoir> paolo: no problem :)
[08:52] <Jucato> abattoir: problem :)
[08:52] <maryen_> or you can use abattoir's fancy pants terminal commands
[08:52] <abattoir> Jucato: for you, not for me :P
[08:52] <notech> don't forget 'top'
[08:52] <niblets> k.i.s.s
[08:53] <abattoir> maryen_: i actually prefer superkaramba ^_^, but it is really useful sometimes, and simple too
[08:53] <Jucato> that abbreviation itself is not "simple", since the last 's' can be interpreted in so many ways :)
[08:53] <maryen_> top isn't as good as ctrl+esc in kde as far as I know
[08:53] <abattoir> htop is cooler ;)
[08:53] <niblets> then K.i.s, not quite a kiss, but you get the simplicity
[08:53] <abattoir> waaay cooler
[08:54] <Jucato> cooler than "topless"?
[08:54] <Jucato> no :P
[08:54] <niblets> htopless?
[08:55] <maryen_> htop is nice, but ctrl-esc is quicker
[08:55] <Jucato> topless... nothing on top...
[08:56] <maryen_> unless you have yakuake, but even then it's hardly noticeble amount of time saved
[08:56] <niblets> what about ctrl+c, is that even remotely related???
[08:56] <maryen_> copy?
[08:56] <Jucato> Ctrl+C in the terminal is "Cancel"
[08:57] <niblets> ctrl+c in konsole is new command line
[08:57] <maryen_> k i didn't know that
[08:57] <niblets> or effectively, cancel
[08:58] <niblets> anyone here running newest amarok?
[08:58] <niblets> on KDE?
[08:58] <maryen_> me
[08:59] <maryen_>  i think
[08:59] <maryen_> nvm
[08:59] <niblets> thats a no?
[09:00] <abattoir> niblets: i am... why do you ask?
[09:01] <maryen_> I will be soon
[09:01] <maryen_> yes thats a no for now
[09:01] <niblets> 'cause the engines on 1.4.4 fucked up half of my mp3s using xine, and I cant get a version of helix working taht plays mp3s so I had to re-download about 3gb of mp3s
[09:01] <niblets> about 1/4 of my collection D=
[09:02] <niblets> hence the looking for a ftp client like limewire
[09:02] <abattoir> niblets: hmm, please refrain from using such language here...
[09:02] <maryen_> gift+apollon is nice
[09:02] <niblets> Sorry, my bad
[09:02] <abattoir> niblets: i don't think it'd write over your files... what really happened?
[09:03] <jongt_> where is inittab?
[09:03] <maryen_> wazzat?
[09:03] <abattoir> niblets: you installed a script? mp3fixer or something?
[09:03] <niblets> it didnt write over them, i just fals to decode the fist few minutes of about 1/4 of the mp3s
[09:03] <niblets> *fails
[09:03] <abattoir> niblets: you had libxine-extracodecs installed?
[09:04] <ninHer> what does the people use for playing videopodcasts on ipods ?
[09:05] <niblets> Yea, but that doesnt make a difference
[09:05] <niblets> because that makes mp3 support for xine engine
[09:05] <niblets> the support is still broken
[09:05] <abattoir> niblets: only certain files or all your files? I'm still baffled by how it'll render your files useless
[09:05] <abattoir> ninHer: in an ipod?
[09:06] <ninHer> yes abattoir
[09:06] <niblets> not entirely useless, just not decode the first portion of the mp3, and skip to the rest of it
[09:06] <abattoir> ninHer: i don't have one, but don't video ipods come with a player which plays those?
[09:06] <maryen_> i've never had xine or amarok do that
[09:07] <maryen_> i'm running the newest version again btw
[09:07] <niblets> beryl?
[09:07] <ninHer> abattoir: yes but what i mean is how may i transort them for playing
[09:07] <ninHer> transport
[09:07] <abattoir> ninHer: aah... one sec
[09:08] <ninHer> i use for downloading or manage, gtkpod or ippoder but...
[09:09] <ninHer> the problem is to put them into the ipod to be recognized
[09:09] <ninHer> ok
[09:17] <abattoir> ninHer: can't seem to find it :(
[09:18] <ninHer> thanks abattoir
[09:18] <abattoir> sorry
[09:20] <ninHer> it is fine with it
[09:20] <max_> anyone use beryl?
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> max_, i did
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> actually i do
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> whats up
[09:22] <max_> do you know how to make Beryl the default window manager
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> #beryl
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> they might be able to help you
[09:23] <max_> im in there
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !beryl | max_
[09:23] <ubotu> max_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> might want to check the wiki too
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> max_, that's all the help I can give atm, i'm busy sorry
[09:25] <akrus> ATI + Beryl = sucks :(
[09:45] <maryen_> what is your opinion on the novell/MS deal guys?
[09:46] <maryen> no-one?
[09:46] <Jucato> !offtopic
[09:46] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:47] <maryen> Jucato: :p
[09:49] <milena> Anybody  familiar with cups 1.2.2 ? I need some help with BrowseRemoteOptions.
[09:51] <ninHer> milena: have you tried: yourlocalip:631 on your web browser ?
[09:53] <milena> minHer yup
[09:53] <milena> these options are used for compression and encryption in cups 1.2, but I cannot make them work
[09:54] <milena> I am printing under wine on a remote machine and it takes 1 min for me to print
[09:55] <milena> I am trying to make some comression with cups 1.2.2 using BrowseRemoteOptions and BrowseLocalOptions
[10:04] <shenmue> hi, anybody know how to flush mail queue in Exim4?
[10:16] <delphine> good {{timezone}}
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine, ?
[10:17] <delphine> wel, I could be saying good morning :)
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> ah well in that case
[10:17] <delphine> but typically, if you're in Chicago, that's kind of not working
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[10:17] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 11 2006, 03:17:39
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> it is too morning here
[10:17] <delphine> although we could argue it is morning too yes ;)
[10:18] <delphine> ok, I am a terrible newbie
[10:18] <Jucato> @manila
[10:18] <Jucato> err...
[10:18] <Jucato> @now manila
[10:18] <delphine> @now frankfurt
[10:18] <Ubugtu> Current time in Asia/Manila: December 11 2006, 17:18:25
[10:18] <delphine> @now berlin
[10:18] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: December 11 2006, 10:18:34
[10:18] <shenmue> @now Nanjing
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, your time?
[10:18] <shenmue> @now Shanghai
[10:19] <Ubugtu> Current time in Asia/Shanghai: December 11 2006, 17:19:01
[10:19] <Jucato> yep, it's correct
[10:19] <Jucato> Asia/Manila
[10:19] <delphine> my windows box crashed yesterday (nothing new under the sun)
[10:19] <delphine> and I am taking this opportunity to change for bettter
[10:19] <exclude> did anything change with the recent sec. updates in apache?
[10:20] <exclude> My apache suddenly no longer allows symlinks, and I cannot find a way to fix that either.
[10:20] <delphine> so I chose kubuntu
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine, good to hear, i did that when windows lost all my data
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> not worth the 120 bucks or whatever
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> plus it sucks
[10:21] <delphine> but of course, I'd like to get my data back
[10:21] <shenmue> Options FollowSymLinks?
[10:21] <delphine> I'm stuck at the very first step
[10:21] <delphine> ie. read my drives
[10:21] <delphine> (one drive crashed) the data one seems to be there alright
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine, give me a sec to pull up a link
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> !mount
[10:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:22] <delphine> thx :)
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> !windows
[10:22] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> no...
[10:22] <delphine> huh
[10:22] <shenmue> !exim
[10:22] <ubotu> exim: An obsolete MTA (Mail Transport Agent), replaced by exim4. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.36-18.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 762 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[10:22] <noiesmo> !gates
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <shenmue> @now Beijing
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> that may help
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> let me know
[10:28] <delphine> thx admiral
[10:28] <delphine> oh gone
[10:29] <thill2708> what is the best looking theme for kde? kde-look.org's offerings don't impress me
[10:30] <naught101> is it normal for kftpgrabber to crash on a segmentation fault?
[10:30] <linopil> shows left ALT is now mod1  = ISO_next_group . don't want that . pls any ideas
[10:31] <naught101> !ftp
[10:31] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[10:35] <akrus> hello
[10:35] <akrus> have anyone tried open source radeon driver with 3d? :)
[10:39] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: how is it going? does it work?
[10:40] <Bubba_Gump> Soulseek?
[10:40] <Bubba_Gump> What is the linux alternative for Soulseek?
[10:40] <delphine> I'm working on it
[10:40] <Admiral_Chicago> let me know if you need help at any point
[10:52] <delphine> Admiral_Chicago: should I use that one, or the windowspartition one?
[10:52] <delphine> (that one=the link you provided)
[10:53] <Rob-West> i need some help
[10:53] <Rob-West> how can i make sure i have every dependency needed
[10:54] <Rob-West> is there a command i can type
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: the second one
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Rob-West: for a package?
[10:55] <Rob-West> yes
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> i believe there is a command, sec
[10:56] <Rob-West> http://www.pygame.org its for this
[10:56] <rpv> Rob-West: may be apt-get check?
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm i couldn't find one
[10:58] <delphine> Admiral_Chicago: didn't have to, the first one worked perfecto
[10:58] <delphine> they're mounted now :D
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: fstab?
[10:58] <delphine> diskmounter
[10:59] <Rob-West> apt-get check didnt work
[10:59] <delphine> oh, and I confirm that my hd is busted
[10:59] <delphine> :D
[10:59] <rpv> Rob-West: may be sudo apt-get check?
[11:00] <Rob-West> i did
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: okay good
[11:02] <Rob-West> i get this error
[11:02] <Rob-West> Reading package lists... Done
[11:02] <Rob-West> Building dependency tree
[11:02] <Rob-West> Reading state information... Done
[11:02] <Rob-West> Package python2.3-pygame is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:02] <Rob-West> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:02] <Rob-West> is only available from another source
[11:02] <Rob-West> However the following packages replace it:
[11:02] <Rob-West>   python-pygame
[11:02] <Rob-West> E: Package python2.3-pygame has no installation candidate
[11:02] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste
[11:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:03] <rpv> Rob-West: add all repositories, see ubuntuguide.org
[11:04] <Rob-West> im using Kubuntu
[11:04] <delphine> thx Admiral_Chicago
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: no problem
[11:05] <delphine> wow, this is weird, all my program files are simply...gone
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: strange, but good thing some of those non-free programs are gone
[11:08] <delphine> ;)
[11:09] <Rob-West> this is all to controll xmms with a gamepad
[11:10] <Rob-West> is there an easier alternative
[11:14] <Duesentrieb> hi all. when i click the power manager icon, all controls in the power manager panel are grayed out. what does this indicate? how do i fix this? I vaguely rememebr having to set a sticky bit on some executable...
[11:14] <Duesentrieb> this used to work at some time in the past...
[11:15] <Duesentrieb> also, going to suspend mode using the menu that is shown on right click works (kind of - the laptop sometimes doesn't wake up again)
[11:15] <Duesentrieb> so... any ideas?
[11:17] <Rob-West> is there an easier way to control XMMS with a gamepad
[11:21] <Duesentrieb> there used to be a "setup helper application" button for doing this - where did it go in edgy?...
[11:27] <DrNickRiviera> as kubuntu tends to use as much ram as it can get, what's the best way to find out whether a ram upgrade makes sense?
[11:27] <DrNickRiviera> just look at how much swap is being used?
[11:28] <majnoon> ram upgrade ALWAYS makes sense
[11:29] <majnoon> <<just no have the $$$$
[11:30] <ironfroggy> what could it mean if i have an ELF executable which has executable permissions and gives me Permission denied?
[11:31] <DrNickRiviera> although i've just remembered that due to something strange about my mainboard if i put in any more ram sticks it will run at 333 rather then the current 400 :(
[11:31] <Duesentrieb> ironfroggy: perhaps it is in turn trying to run/read something it doesn't have access too?
[11:33] <Duesentrieb> DrNickRiviera: type "free" on the command line. the second line of numbers shows memory usage ignoring system buffers and caches.
[11:33] <ironfroggy> i wish it was that easy.
[11:33] <Rob-West> if i lock Kubuntu will it continue updating
[11:33] <ironfroggy> i have an strace at http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2858 showing it is really the executable just failing to run
[11:33] <lotusleaf> Any Kubuntu users here use Compiz?
[11:40] <DrNickRiviera> Duesentrieb: thanks for that pointer, seems like 610megs out of my gig of ram are being used for system buffers and cache
[11:44] <Rob-West> how do i lock my session
[11:45] <Jucato> K Menu -> Lock Session or Ctrl+Alt+L
[11:46] <Rob-West> theres no screen saver
[11:46] <Jucato> I really don't know.
[11:47] <Rob-West> its cool
[11:47] <Rob-West> well Amarok love m gamepad now
[11:48] <delphine_> damned
[11:48] <wincide> hi all
[11:49] <Narada> hi guys; which package does the command mail fall into?
[11:49] <delphine_> Admiral_Chicago: any idea how I can change default character encoding?
[11:49] <delphine_> cos it's getting to be a pain :D
[11:50] <wincide> does someone knows how to make "non case sensitive " amarok ?? i have my database made with postgresql 8.1 , and don't know if what i'm lookinf for is part of amarok or postgre
[11:52] <Rob-West> its not letting me set a password
[11:52] <Rob-West> i mean screen saver
[11:56] <Rob-West> i think the repositories messed up
[11:59] <Rob-West> what will happen if i put my computer into hibernation
[12:02] <Lynoure> Rob-West: Which level of answer you want? GUI, technical, something else?
[12:02] <Lynoure> Rob-West: if your system is messed up, who knows.
[12:02] <Rob-West> GUI
[12:02] <akrus> hello
[12:02] <Lynoure> Rob-West: but normally it muses a bit, then shuts down power and an restoring shows grup, and upon kde asks a password
[12:03] <akrus> need help with ati open source drivers :)
[12:03] <rob> !ati | akrus
[12:03] <ubotu> akrus: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:03] <rob> tried that?
[12:21] <mefisto__> how does ubuntu handle hardware changes? Does it detect new hardware on startup?
[12:23] <kasiaikrzys> jest tu kto
[12:23] <inkwell> My Composite Manager keeps crashing
[12:24] <inkwell> errr. Help is need please
[12:24] <lupine_85> mefisto__: yes
[12:25] <kasiaikrzys> wogle to gdzie ja jestem
[12:25] <kasiaikrzys> hihiih narazie testuje
[12:26] <kasiaikrzys> to co to jest ???????????
[12:26] <lupine_85> english?
[12:26] <kasiaikrzys> no
[12:27] <lupine_85> language ?
[12:27] <kasiaikrzys> polish
[12:27] <lupine_85> !pt
[12:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:27] <kasiaikrzys> :D
[12:27] <lupine_85> no....
[12:27] <lupine_85> erm :F
[12:27] <kasiaikrzys> hehehe
[12:27] <kasiaikrzys> yes
[12:28] <kasiaikrzys> you inglish
[12:28] <lupine_85> !pl
[12:28] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:28] <lupine_85> yes :)
[12:29] <aleksanteri> what's the command for auto-configuring xorg?
[12:30] <aleksanteri> because i know there is one
[12:30] <Jucato> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:31] <aleksanteri> ok thx
[12:31] <aleksanteri> with or without the quotes? lol :D
[12:31] <aleksanteri> j/k :P
[12:31] <Jucato> ...
[12:32] <aleksanteri> sry
[12:32] <Jucato> ah sige later na lang.. kain muna ako...
[12:32] <Jucato> err wrong window
[12:33] <aleksanteri> ok, gotta try it out, brb
[12:33] <inkwell> why does my composite manager keep crashing can someone help?
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine_: nope sorry
[12:33] <delphine_> darn
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm in the next room too, but PM me if you need and i'll get back to you when i can
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe this...
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !locale
[12:34] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe
[12:37] <mefisto__> I installed ubuntu edgy on an old pc, hoping to get some use out of it, but I can't get it to start up without the screen going blank AND not being able to switch to a console (with ctl-alt-F1~F6). Any suggestions as to what I can do to try to fix this?
[12:42] <_osh> mefisto__: when does the screen go blank? How far do you get?
[12:43] <mefisto__> it goes blank when gdm loads
[12:44] <mefisto__> I tried changing the driver to vesa in xorg.conf - the screen doesn't go blank, but x doesn't start either
[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might help
[12:45] <_osh> mefisto__: so if you start it without gdm/kdm and start X from console, does it work then?
[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> use the default options
[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> AFK
[12:45] <aleksanteri> works ;)
[12:46] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: that just restores xorg.conf to its original state, which gives me a blank screen
[12:46] <mefisto__> _osh: no, I get the same problem
[12:47] <mefisto__> this is an old pc, the video card is pci with just 2mb ram. system ram is 64mb. Am I being to ambitious?
[12:48] <_osh> mefisto__: how old is the machine? perhaps the monitor sync is out of range?
[12:48] <mefisto__> _osh: it's about 10 years old
[12:51] <_osh> mefisto__: do you get any X-errors (in the logfile) when you try to start X?
[12:52] <mefisto__> _osh: I get warnings, but no actual errors until the last line of the logfile
[12:53] <_osh> mefisto__: what's the error?
[12:53] <nuxil> ow would i do it to skip the first 128 bytes if a file?
[12:53] <nuxil> d if=/file bs=512 count=2 of=/new-file skip=128 or seek=128 doesnt seem to work
[12:53] <nuxil> *dd
[12:54] <nuxil> thats a 1 MB file i want to skip the first 128 bits from.. so i got 768 bits in the new file
[12:58] <twosouls82> hi there :)
[01:06] <mefisto__> _osh: fatal server error. caught signal 11. server aborting
[01:09] <_osh> mefisto__: before that then?
[01:22] <Weam> so, i just installed kubuntu 6.06. the installation went fine, my partitions etc went fine. when im booting the computer right after the computer freezes at GRUB Loading Stage 1.5 - GRUB Hard Disk Error. i tried to look at the forums but everyone that has the same problem has problems with dualboot or something like that. Im not using dualboot, my whole hd is used for kubuntu. i got a s-ata disk if it could be anything with 
[01:23] <mefisto__> _osh: AIGLX: screen 0 is not DRI capable
[01:24] <mefisto__> _osh: this is with vesa as the driver in xorg.conf
[01:25] <_osh> mefisto__: that might be a problem. an old card like yours probably don't have aiglx-support. aiglx is fairly new. your computer isn't.
[01:25] <mefisto__> _osh: so can I disable aiglx in xorg.conf?
[01:26] <_osh> mefisto__: yes. for acomputer that old you should disable EVERYTHING. When it starts working you could enable things as you go.
[01:27] <mefisto__> disable everything? can I have an empty xorg.conf file?
[01:27] <_osh> mefisto__: sorry, i haven't worked with aiglx or compiz or any of that stuff so someone else might be able to help you with that.
[01:28] <_osh> mefisto__: no, not an empty one. there's a command (other than dpkg-reconfigure) that will help you setup a good xorg.conf file.
[01:28] <mefisto__> ok thanks _osh. I might check the forums for aiglx too
[01:28] <_osh> mefisto__: do that. good luck. Now I have to figure out why i get an ioctl-error when enabling my lvm-groups... :-/
[01:30] <tobre> Hi all!
[01:30] <[GuS] > Bonjour...
[01:31] <tobre> I have a problem about microphone. It's not working..
[01:31] <kraut> moin
[01:31] <tobre> My audio device is ALSA.
[01:32] <tobre> I can't hear even my own voice.
[01:32] <nAtic> check your voice first
[01:32] <nAtic> if you are not able to speak, your mic won't ever
[01:32] <tobre> :D
[01:33] <nAtic> check your ears then
[01:33] <tobre> Other sound is working correctly, only when I speak to my mic, I can't hear my voice from speakers.
[01:34] <tobre> I created test file with arecord and it contains silence.
[01:34] <Hobbsee> tobre: run alsamixer, make sure pcm is turned up, and all the other volume controls, go to the bit marked "mic" and hit f4, then turn those up too.  then esc, esc
[01:35] <tobre> Master 65-65 PCM 100-100 capture 100-100 It's all up.
[01:37] <tobre> But there are no bit marked "mic" :S
[01:38] <tobre> So any suggestions?
[01:39] <markc> howdy folks, how do I disable session saving in KDE so when I restart it's always the same original setup ?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> markc: system settings, advanced, session stuff
[01:40] <Hobbsee> tobre: should be something similar?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> tobre: try input source
[01:41] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee
[01:41] <tobre> Hmm, were can I find it?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[01:41] <Hobbsee> tobre: in alsamixer.  hit the right arrow to scroll across
[01:42] <markc> Hobbsee: I'm still using dapper, there is no advanced section... I'll try running kcontrol manually
[01:42] <tobre> There are only master, PCM and capture
[01:42] <tobre> ..bars.
[01:42] <Hobbsee> tobre: try capture
[01:43] <tobre> This is set to 100
[01:43] <Jucato> markc: that would be in System Settings -> User Account -> Session Manager in Dapper
[01:44] <markc> Jucato: hmm, I found something in KDE componenets -> Session Manager
[01:44] <Jucato> er.. yeah sorry :(
[01:44] <AngryElf> hey all
[01:44] <Jucato> er.. that would be in KControl. not sure if it's the same in Dapper
[01:44] <Hobbsee> tobre: hmmm.  you've run alsamixer from a terminal, instead of looking in kmix?
[01:44] <Hobbsee> heya
[01:45] <tobre> in terminal of course
[01:45] <AngryElf> mplayer will play mp3s fine but amarok won't i've instaleld libxine-extracodecs according to the wiki, any ideas?
[01:45] <markc> ah right, Restore manually saved session... sounds like the one, thanks guys :)
[01:45] <Admiral_Chicago> will you two join me in -offtopic, i want to run an idea by some ubuntu people?
[01:45] <tobre> But is there any good utility to test microphone?
[01:45] <Admiral_Chicago> tobre: have you tried tab? i think that smitches what mode you are in?
[01:46] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: no
[01:46] <Jucato> :P
[01:46] <tobre> Yes, I have tried.
[01:46] <Admiral_Chicago> tobre: hold on a sec
[01:46] <markc> tobre: arecord -f cd somewav.wav ; aplay somewav.wav
[01:46] <tobre> I have tried this.
[01:46] <tobre> somewav.wav is "emty"
[01:46] <tobre> I can hear nothind.
[01:46] <tobre> nothing
[01:47] <markc> tobre: make sure your alsamixer settings are right
[01:47] <_osh> Anyone who can explain my annoying LVM error? http://pastebin.ca/275303 It's quite bad since I no longer see my volume-groups under /dev but for some reason I can still mount them with EVMS.
[01:47] <tobre> Hmm, witch are the right settings?
[01:47] <tobre> All sound is working good, only mic.
[01:49] <markc> tobre: kinda depends on your  card, master, pcm, wave all on about 80%, and obviously mic unmuted and up about 80%
[01:50] <aspedia> I want to use snortcenter but dont get it run
[01:51] <tobre> I have Intel card.
[01:51] <tobre> I have set all up to 80%..
[01:52] <aspedia> cause I get an mysql error importing the database
[01:52] <aspedia> http://paste.axpr.net/?show=138930
[01:53] <aspedia> can somoen help?
[01:53] <tobre> I'm really stuck...
[01:53] <markc> tobre: I'll reboot my laptop into linux and try mine mic
[01:53] <tobre> OK..
[01:53] <tobre> I'll wait
[01:55] <akrus> hello everyone~
[01:55] <akrus> cannot get AIGLX to work anyway xD
[01:55] <akrus> In LiveCD after reloading X -> Direct Rendering: Yes, in the OS -> No
[01:55] <akrus> where may be the problem?
[01:57] <betel> I can only run beryl-manager as root. Otherwise it dies with a signal 11. Does anyone recognise this?
[01:58] <akrus> maybe +x for everyone?
[01:59] <shenmue> @now Shanghai
[01:59] <Ubugtu> Current time in Asia/Shanghai: December 11 2006, 20:59:17
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> chmod u+x (maybe)
[02:02] <betel> hmm.. +x on what?
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> the file
[02:03] <Hobbsee> betel: ask all beryl questoins in #beryl
[02:04] <betel> all beryl binaries are already +x
[02:04] <betel> Hobbsee: ok
[02:06] <Mo-Z> !ati
[02:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:06] <akrus> fglrx sucks :P
[02:07] <akrus> lol
[02:07] <akrus> was typing sudo nano...
[02:07] <akrus> typed: suck nano
[02:07] <akrus> :(
[02:09] <shenmue> anyone knows how to flush mail queue in Exim4?
[02:15] <Mo-Z> lawl... damn thos ati and the drivers... y has there to all this troublemaking in trying to fix it ? :o (Im a noob for christssake!) :p
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Mo-Z: whats the problem?
[02:16] <Mo-Z> brb... reboot
[02:20] <Mo-Z> Admiral_Chicago: ... never mind :p  this time i got it.. :) easier now  than befor :)
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Mo-Z: because ati wont let people redistribute their drivers
[02:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy All ! :)
[02:21] <Mo-Z> Hobbsee: and that means?
[02:21] <julle> i have 1 FAT32 disk, and 1 NTFS disk that i want to mount and make the right options for them. can someone help me do this ?
[02:22] <Hobbsee> Mo-Z: means that we cant include it in ubuntu, so it works without configuration
[02:22] <Mo-Z> aha
[02:22] <delphine> julle: I'm struggling with this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:22] <delphine> julle:  might help
[02:22] <delphine> julle: at the bottme
[02:22] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: i got you :P
[02:23] <delphine> *bottom
[02:23] <delphine> Admiral_Chicago: lol
[02:23] <delphine> yes, I'm still trying to mount my partition telling it to understand utf8
[02:23] <delphine> ;)
[02:23] <delphine> it's not working :/
[02:23] <julle> delphine: ok thx
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: how far down
[02:24] <delphine> Admiral_Chicago: mounting partitions manually
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see it
[02:25] <delphine> it has something about it, but I can't get it to work :/
[02:25] <Mo-Z> !frostwire
[02:25] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: Note for international users: if your filesystem contains funny symbols, you may need to add an option for utf-8 support.
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> that line?
[02:26] <delphine> yep
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: may i PM you?
[02:26] <delphine> sure
[02:35] <delphine_> gonna be easier :)
[02:57] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[02:57] <zaphod> hi there
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[02:58] <zaphod> anyone down here have any experience with klamav ?
[02:58] <dinosaur-rus> not me :)
[02:59] <zaphod> hmmm a very active channel to say the least
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> zaphod: it's definetly not #ubuntu
[03:01] <BluesKaj> what's klamav?
[03:01] <dinosaur-rus> is SVN 1.4 going to be packaged?
[03:03] <judgen> !beryl feisty
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl feisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <judgen> !beryl
[03:03] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:04] <dinosaur-rus> !svn
[03:04] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[03:04] <dinosaur-rus> !svn 1.4
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svn 1.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Admiral_Chicago> dinosaur-rus: probably not, because it's svn
[03:04] <Admiral_Chicago> oh you mean in feisty?
[03:10] <dinosaur-rus> Admiral_Chicago: I'd like to see it in Edgy
[03:10] <dinosaur-rus> but I'll wait
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> dinosaur-rus: nope not happening unless you install of the SVN
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> but that's not packed for edgy
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> ask in #beryl
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> afk
[03:11] <dinosaur-rus> Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean by saying "install of the SVN"
[03:11] <dinosaur-rus> ?
[03:12] <Admiral_Chicago> the SVN has some debs that are packed for ubuntu iirc
[03:12] <Admiral_Chicago> can't talk now
[03:12] <Admiral_Chicago> class
[03:43] <PhinnFort> i can't seem to use the freecontrib mirror
[03:43] <PhinnFort> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/edgy/free/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[03:44] <PhinnFort> seems like all i get when i try to visit that page is an ad
[03:52] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort, .click on that header
[03:52] <PhinnFort> i'm no good with french
[03:53] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea if the acx111 firmware is still the broken one in fiesty?
[03:54] <arriesp> hi
[03:56] <BluesKaj> !acx111 firmware
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acx111 firmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <compilerwriter> Anyone here able to help a newbie frustrated by sound problems?
[03:57] <daMoosh> compilerwriter: what problems are you having?
[03:58] <compilerwriter> I used to have sound when I first intsalled.
[03:58] <compilerwriter> Now I for some reason don't.
[03:58] <PhinnFort> !freecontrib
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freecontrib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <PhinnFort> !plf
[03:58] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[03:58] <compilerwriter> I have checked the the wiring it is something else.
[03:59] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: have you tried starting from the livecd?
[03:59] <compilerwriter> No phinn I haven't.
[03:59] <compilerwriter> I don't have a live cd of edgy. I just upgraded.
[04:00] <compilerwriter> Sounds like I should get myself the livecd.
[04:00] <compilerwriter> What are you thinking might be going on PhinnFort?
[04:00] <PhinnFort> just to make sure
[04:00] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: sorry, i'm not very into ubuntu, but it could be a kernel module not loading or something
[04:01] <compilerwriter> ok.
[04:01] <compilerwriter> Starting from the livecd would load the module.
[04:01] <PhinnFort> you could compare the output of lsmod and lspci
[04:02] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: it should
[04:02] <PhinnFort> lsmod lists the modules that are loaded, while lspci shows your PCI devices
[04:02] <compilerwriter> In a terminal one would diff the two?
[04:04] <PhinnFort> just look at lspci first and try to identify your sound card
[04:04] <PhinnFort> should be called multimedia controller or something
[04:04] <PhinnFort> then look at the output of lsmod and see if any modules have a similar name
[04:04] <PhinnFort> or just post the output to rafb.net/paste and i'll have a look
[04:05] <compilerwriter> rafb.net/paste?
[04:05] <PhinnFort> it's a website
[04:05] <PhinnFort> http://rafb.net/paste
[04:07] <Alter-Ego> i need to keep a log of my messages in kopete, but can't find that option anywhere
[04:07] <PhinnFort> Alter-Ego: it's a plugin
[04:07] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: enable the History plugin
[04:08] <PhinnFort> "Settings" -> "Configure plugins..."
[04:08] <Jucato> then, you would have to right-click on contacts and selecting View History to be able to read the logs
[04:08] <compilerwriter> Do I send it to your nick here PhinnFort
[04:08] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: just paste the address here in the channel
[04:08] <Alter-Ego> k, history is enabled
[04:09] <Jucato> (the logs are saved in an XML format, which is barely usable if read unformatted)
[04:09] <Alter-Ego> so i assume that a log was saved
[04:09] <PhinnFort> go to the website, paste stuff, get address, paste address here
[04:09] <PhinnFort> okay, gimp has just taken over all my file associations
[04:09] <PhinnFort> how can i set them back?
[04:09] <PhinnFort> easily
[04:10] <Jucato> PhinnFort: Konqueror -> Setttings -> Configure Konqueror ->File Associations
[04:10] <PhinnFort> Jucato: i know, but it's a pita to set everything by hand
[04:10] <Jucato> PhinnFort: yeah, a limitation of KDE, afaik
[04:10] <compilerwriter> http://rafb.net/paste/results/rA2T4E53.html
[04:11] <compilerwriter> There you go PhinnFort
[04:11] <PhinnFort> now the output of lsmod?
[04:13] <compilerwriter> lsmod coming your way PhinFort http://rafb.net/paste/results/NUxKR119.html
[04:13] <PhinnFort> thank you;)
[04:13] <easytiger> anyone reccomend a gui tool for making dvds from avis?
[04:14] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: seems like your modules ("drivers") are loaded
[04:14] <compilerwriter> they are snd things aren't they?
[04:14] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: try running alsamixer in a konsole
[04:14] <PhinnFort> yup
[04:14] <PhinnFort> emu10k afaik
[04:14] <aleksante> i need some help again :P
[04:14] <ReTyPe> i think my Dbus is broken, can i fix this ?
[04:15] <compilerwriter> I have kmix running should I quit it?
[04:15] <PhinnFort> you don't have to
[04:15] <aleksante> "configure: error: Autoconf 2.58 or better is required. Please make sure it is installed and in your PATH" how do i know what's PATH?
[04:15] <compilerwriter> alsamixer fired up on request.
[04:15] <PhinnFort> aleksanteri: echo $PATH
[04:15] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: no errors?
[04:16] <aleksanteri> ???
[04:16] <compilerwriter> no errors though all the levels are set at 00
[04:16] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: try turning them up
[04:16] <aleksanteri> how? :D
[04:16] <compilerwriter> How the hell do I navigate the damned window?
[04:16] <PhinnFort> arrows
[04:17] <aleksanteri> ahh :P
[04:17] <PhinnFort> right, left
[04:17] <PhinnFort> up, down
[04:17] <compilerwriter> mater now set to 100
[04:17] <compilerwriter> master that is.
[04:17] <PhinnFort> ok
[04:17] <PhinnFort> it doesn't say MM under it?
[04:17] <PhinnFort> MM means it's muted
[04:17] <PhinnFort> turn down your speakers a bit, though
[04:18] <compilerwriter> not muted
[04:18] <PhinnFort> and put on some music and try to turn up everything
[04:18] <compilerwriter> 3d controller is muted
[04:18] <PhinnFort> shouldn't matter
[04:18] <compilerwriter> but I don't have 3d speakers
[04:18] <PhinnFort> just ignore it
[04:18] <PhinnFort> or you could press "m" to unmute it
[04:19] <compilerwriter> I just heard a sort of pop maybe we have it back.
[04:19] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: you could probably do this in kmix too, but i'm more comfortable with alsamixer
[04:19] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: maybe
[04:20] <compilerwriter> well the mp3. I just tried to play has no sound.
[04:21] <compilerwriter> I will get a cd and just put it in the drive
[04:21] <PhinnFort> what do you use to play it?
[04:21] <compilerwriter> Kaffeine
[04:21] <Weam> so, i just installed kubuntu 6.06. the installation went fine, my partitions etc went fine. when im booting the computer right after the computer freezes at GRUB Loading Stage 1.5 - GRUB Hard Disk Error. i tried to look at the forums but everyone that has the same problem has problems with dualboot or something like that. Im not using dualboot, my whole hd is used for kubuntu. i got a s-ata disk if it could be anything with 
[04:21] <PhinnFort> Weam: what filesystems you use?
[04:21] <PhinnFort> xfs?
[04:22] <Weam> ext3 i think? <.<
[04:22] <PhinnFort> hmm
[04:29] <DekKeD> anyone knows how to "mount" a video in a webcam device? Sort of "fake webcam" thing
[04:31] <compilerwriter> well PhinnFort no luck playing cd with Kaffeine
[04:31] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: could try to use another player?
[04:31] <PhinnFort> mpg123?
[04:32] <PhinnFort> mplayer?
[04:32] <PhinnFort> if you use mplayer, try to use mplayer -ao alsa
[04:32] <PhinnFort> to force it to output directly to your sound card
[04:32] <compilerwriter> I will look and see what I have to use.
[04:33] <PhinnFort> ok
[04:33] <compilerwriter> I have Kmplayer
[04:34] <PhinnFort> then you should have mplayer too
[04:34] <PhinnFort> try to run mplayer in a konsole
[04:36] <compilerwriter> There you go phinn
[04:36] <compilerwriter> http://rafb.net/paste/results/g5CANj43.html PhinnFort
[04:37] <Pupeno> Is there some newbie-friendly way to mount an HD partition from the Kubuntu livecd ?
[04:38] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: mplayer -ao alsa [file] 
[04:39] <compilerwriter> What would the file be on a music cd?
[04:40] <PhinnFort> cdda://
[04:40] <PhinnFort> or just /dev/cdrom
[04:40] <PhinnFort> i think
[04:40] <PhinnFort> mplayer has some inteligence
[04:41] <dhs> hello
[04:44] <danny500> my sound isn't working. When i try to get into the sound options it says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[04:45] <danny500> what do I do to fix it?
[04:45] <PhinnFort> danny500: you on kde?
[04:45] <danny500> let's just say yes
[04:46] <PhinnFort> why on earth do you use gstreamer, then?
[04:46] <danny500> is there a chance that my sound card could be disabled in my bois?
[04:46] <danny500> I don't know hy, it's my default
[04:47] <PhinnFort> can kmix control your soundcard?
[04:47] <danny500> I don't have kmix
[04:47] <PhinnFort> you said we said you had kde
[04:47] <compilerwriter> Phinn no joy could not find the file.
[04:47] <PhinnFort> kmix comes with kde
[04:48] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: try to use mplayer to play a normal mp3 then
[04:48] <BluesKaj> must be using gnome
[04:48] <PhinnFort> probably
[04:48] <danny500> oh yeah I'm using ubuntu but it's only a graphical version of kde right
[04:48] <PhinnFort> gnome sux
[04:48] <PhinnFort> danny500: kubuntu =! ubuntu
[04:49] <PhinnFort> ubuntu comes with Gnome (which sucks;), while kUbuntu comes with KDE (which owns)
[04:49] <PhinnFort> try in #ubuntu
[04:49] <danny500> ok
[04:50] <compilerwriter> Played the video but with no sound.
[04:50] <PhinnFort> hmm
[04:51] <PhinnFort> could you paste the output from mplayer?
[04:51] <compilerwriter> I agree with you in general on that Phinn.  But with gnome I had sound.
[04:51] <PhinnFort> ;)(
[04:51] <PhinnFort> *;)
[04:51] <compilerwriter> brb
[04:56] <jneves> after logging in with KDM users have the locale environment uninitialized (LANG is empty and LC_* is POSIX) - system locale is pt-PT.UTF-8 - any clues?
[04:56] <jneves> kubuntu 6.06.1
[04:57] <compilerwriter> PhinnFort the output from vplayer is hugely long
[04:57] <PhinnFort> it should be;)
[04:58] <compilerwriter> In the terminal it just updated itself like non scrolling numbers so I doubt I can post it.
[04:58] <dinosaur-rus> jneves: what's wrong? UTF-8?
[04:58] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: all non-kde apps
[04:59] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: openoffice is the most serious case
[04:59] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: it should output some info before that, about sound output and stuff
[04:59] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: as LANG=, it defaults to en_US
[04:59] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: and doesn't accept non-ascii chars
[05:00] <dinosaur-rus> jneves: try System Settings -> Regional and Language. I think it should work...
[05:00] <compilerwriter> http://rafb.net/paste/results/uItUHO54.html
[05:01] <compilerwriter> There you go.
[05:01] <gsuveg> re
[05:01] <dinosaur-rus> jneves: or add to ~/.bash_profile line "export LANG=<whatever-you-need>"
[05:01] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: that seems to have only setup for kde :(
[05:01] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: ty
[05:01] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: I'd prefer something for all users - I don't understand why it's not using the system default...
[05:02] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: thanks
[05:02] <compilerwriter> I don't have much data on this install I think I will get a copy of the live cd and just start totally over.  I may have bolluxed some settings when I changed from gnome to kde and whatever.
[05:02] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: very, very weird
[05:02] <PhinnFort> yeah
[05:02] <wildchild> what's the name of python package ??
[05:02] <PhinnFort> also, double check you cable
[05:02] <compilerwriter> I have.
[05:03] <compilerwriter> What is weird about my output?
[05:03] <dinosaur-rus> jneves: hm... try to add "export LANG=en_US.UTF-8" to /etc/profile
[05:04] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: was doing that ;)
[05:04] <gsuveg> im installed kickstart to edgy. it works, but dont update latest application list. maybe you have idea?
[05:04] <compilerwriter> PhinnFort what was weird about my output?
[05:04] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: no errors at all
[05:05] <PhinnFort> video was bugging a bit when it tried to find a valid output, but sound just seemed to work
[05:05] <compilerwriter> I will test my speakers on another pc and all that then.
[05:05] <compilerwriter> I am certain they still work. but who the hell knows.
[05:05] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: you could also create a new user and see if it's just your settings
[05:05] <compilerwriter> How do I do that?
[05:06] <compilerwriter> I am a total newbie here.
[05:06] <PhinnFort> i'm not sure about the ubuntu way
[05:06] <PhinnFort> adduser should do it i think
[05:06] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: it worked :)
[05:06] <PhinnFort> or maybe in system settings
[05:06] <compilerwriter> I have just enough unix knowledge left over from 1990 to not be at a total loss, but I need some help with that.
[05:07] <PhinnFort> there seems to be something called user management under "System Setteings"
[05:07] <PhinnFort> *setting
[05:07] <dinosaur-rus> jneves: you said you already have done that :) something changed since that time? :))
[05:07] <nagyv> hello! my friend just upgraded from breezy to dapper, but his X now is misconfigured. Hopefully he has a root account, so could log in. What should he run? dpkg-reconfigure sth?
[05:07] <jneves> dinosaur-rus: I was writing that while you were suggesting it - hadn't had time to try it yet
[05:08] <dinosaur-rus> jneves: :)
[05:08] <PhinnFort> compilerwriter: good luck, i have to go now
[05:09] <compilerwriter> Thanks for trying.
[05:10] <dinosaur-rus> nagyv:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:12] <dinosaur-rus> nagyv: and your friend is a bit late as Edgy was released more than a month ago :)
[05:13] <nagyv> dinosaur-rus: I know, but I am not besides him these days. :)
[05:13] <wildchild> hello there how can I install python?
[05:15] <jneves> wildchild: apt-get install python
[05:16] <wildchild> python is already the newest version.
[05:16] <wildchild> hm
[05:19] <arriesp> xao gnte
[05:26] <marco__> hello :) I just donloaded a theme for KDE environment but I dont know how to install it
[05:29] <dinosaur-rus> merco__: if you downloaded it from www.kde-look.org, then there's instructions on how to install themes
[05:29] <marco__> ahh ok. tanks dinosaur-rus
[05:29] <dinosaur-rus> nagyv: next time tell your friend to create backup copies of vital files before upgrading the system ;)
[05:30] <NetShark> Hi again :)
[05:31] <NetShark> What can I do to save current NVidia settings?
[05:31] <NetShark> I'm using NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631
[05:32] <dinosaur-rus> NetShark: it saves settings automatically to ~/.nvidia-settings-rc
[05:33] <NetShark> dinosaur-rus: it doesn't save anything. I set it to 1024x768@85 Hz, then after X restart, it goes back to 43 Hz interlaced
[05:33] <dinosaur-rus> NetShark: then it's not nVidia driver problem.
[05:34] <dinosaur-rus> NetShark: resolution and frequency are maintained by X server itself
[05:34] <NetShark> nvidia control panel is saving it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:34] <NetShark> or at least it wants to save them there
[05:35] <dinosaur-rus> NetShark: KMenu -> System Settings -> Monitor and Display
[05:35] <NetShark> ok, i'm there
[05:36] <NetShark> there are some weird refresh rates
[05:36] <NetShark> 122, 70, 60 Hz
[05:36] <NetShark> 66, 53
[05:37] <dinosaur-rus> NetShark: that means your X server is configured for such rates
[05:37] <NetShark> they are wrong
[05:38] <dinosaur-rus> NetShark: edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[05:39] <dinosaur-rus> NetShark: but make a backup copy for the case you do something wrong
[05:39] <NetShark> ok
[05:40] <NetShark> ok, what should I add there?
[05:40] <NetShark> or edit
[05:40] <NetShark> ?
[05:40] <NetShark> I only see resolutions
[05:40] <NetShark> no refresh rates
[05:43] <dinosaur-rus> NetShark: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[05:49] <dgraves> can anyone help me setup nis client on my 6.10 kubuntu system?  the adept manager package program can't find nis or portmap, like the documentation says to do.
[05:49] <jneves> dgraves: have you added universe to the repositories?
[05:50] <dgraves> you mean /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:50] <chopin|pc> !grub
[05:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:51] <nagyv> !upgrade
[05:51] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:52] <dgraves> jneves: i just did.  i'm downloading the new headers now, we'll see how that goes.
[05:52] <dgraves> nagyv, i did the upgrade from hoary.  everything went well till i went dapper -> edgy.... then it seemed to flake out on packages.  so i just reinstalled. :)
[05:52] <nagyv> dgraves: the problem is that it will be hard to convince my friend to stick to Linux :(
[05:53] <jneves> dgraves: did you do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in the end of the upgrade?
[05:58] <raul> How to assign Win Key with K menu?
[05:59] <gsuveg> raul: within system settins > keyboard shortcuts
[06:00] <julle> is there any good ftp client which supports implicit ssl on login WITH Gui?
[06:03] <omar> alguien me podria ayudar con una explicaciones de un repositorio ?
[06:03] <trappist> !es | omar
[06:03] <ubotu> omar: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:03] <trappist> or was that portugese
[06:03] <omar> ok gracias :D
[06:03] <Admiral_Chicago> trappist: you were right
[06:04] <trappist> Admiral_Chicago: thanks :)
[06:04] <Vladdy> brb
[06:04] <raul> But it must be a combination of Win with some other i mean with Win key alone
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> gotta run, i have 3 pages to write in one hour
[06:06] <nagyv> how can I solve the dependency problems shown by apt-get check? (just doing breezy2dapper upgrade)
[06:10] <dinosaur-rus> nagyv: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[06:14] <ubuntu_> can I put grub on something other than hd0, then get my already existing grub at hd0 to redirect to my ubuntu's grub?
[06:14] <fdoving> ubuntu_: that is possible. don't ask how.
[06:15] <ubuntu_> fdoving: why now?
[06:15] <ubuntu_> fdoving: why not?
[06:15] <fdoving> ubuntu_: i'm to busy to answer :|
[06:15] <fdoving> that's why.
[06:15] <ubuntu_> fdoving: ok
[06:17] <ubuntu_> fdoving: well I'll just tell kubuntu to install to (hd0,9) and worry about getting the grub at hd0 to load the next grub
[06:18] <ubuntu_> fdoving: actually I guess I don't even need 2 grubs. I'll just tell the grub at hd0 about the kernel I have on my new ubuntu partition
[06:18] <fdoving> ubuntu_: correct, you only need one.
[06:18] <ubuntu_> fdoving: I'll just tell kubuntu to put grub at (hd0,9) so that it doesn't clobber the existing one at hd0
[06:18] <ubuntu_> fdoving: thanks for confirming my idea, I know you are busy
[06:19] <fdoving> ubuntu_: i think you can tell it to not install grub at all.. if you want to.
[06:20] <ubuntu_> fdoving: I don't see such a thing in this new simple 6 step graphical installer (perhaps in breezy you could, I see to remember in breezy being able to do an install that looked very much like the old debian installer, ncurses-style with lots of options)
[06:21] <fdoving> ubuntu_: you can still get that, but you need the alternate install cd.
[06:21] <dinosaur-rus> http://dougbarton.us/images/supercoder.jpg
[06:22] <julle> !ftp
[06:22] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:25] <aleksante> !skins
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <aleksanteri> !kde|skins
[06:25] <ubotu> skins: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:25] <aleksanteri> ...
[06:25] <aleksanteri> !kde|installing-skins
[06:25] <wildchild> can someone be so nice, and try to listen if my radio is working? http://193.77.169.220:8012/amarok
[06:25] <ubotu> installing-skins: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:25] <abattoir> aleksanteri: what do you want to 'skin' ?
[06:25] <aleksanteri> i want to install a skin
[06:25] <abattoir> aleksanteri: try System Settings->Look and feel(i think)
[06:26] <abattoir> aleksanteri: what sort of a 'skin' ?
[06:26] <aleksanteri> a theme
[06:26] <abattoir> aleksanteri: do you already have it? where did you get it
[06:26] <abattoir> aleksanteri: kde has different components which can be themed
[06:26] <aleksanteri> i got it from kde-look
[06:26] <abattoir> aleksanteri: got a link?
[06:26] <aleksanteri> yeah
[06:26] <aleksanteri> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=33522
[06:26] <abattoir> wildchild: mp3 ?
[06:27] <wildchild> abattoir: yes..
[06:27] <abattoir> wildchild: works :)
[06:27] <wildchild> are u listening?
[06:27] <wildchild> hehe
[06:27] <wildchild> kewl
[06:27] <abattoir> (i generally wouldn't do it)
[06:27] <wildchild> what's the bitrate
[06:27] <abattoir> but still
[06:28] <abattoir> wildchild: amarok says 192... and it stopped now
[06:28] <abattoir> aleksanteri: ok, it's not a theme by itself...
[06:28] <abattoir> aleksanteri: its a mod for an existing theme
[06:28] <aleksanteri> i know
[06:28] <wildchild> I have to cut bitrate
[06:28] <abattoir> aleksanteri: you should already have lipstik installed
[06:28] <juke71> hey
[06:28] <wildchild> i only have 28kB/s uploads..
[06:28] <abattoir> aleksanteri: follow the instructions inside the archive
[06:28] <juke71> WILDCHILD
[06:29] <wildchild> helo
[06:29] <aleksanteri> so i need to extract it? oh :P
[06:29] <wildchild> :)
[06:31] <marco__> hello, what is the program I should use to copy ISO images to CD/DVD ?
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> marco__: k3b
[06:31] <marco__> thank you
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[06:31] <ibert> hi! wich program creates  ~/.local ?
[06:33] <trappist> ibert: looks like kde in general
[06:34] <ibert> trappist: thanks. I also think so, but I was unsure. I'm searching for dirs, which need not to be backuped..
[06:38] <julle> any1 that uses yakuake and can help me getting transparent yakuake window
[06:38] <mefisto__> Can't get to desktop after login. after editing xorg.conf to use vesa driver, I started x, everything was fine. After restarting, I just get a plain brown desktop with a grey box in the upper left corner after login
[06:41] <aleksanteri> well i guess i don't have time for modding a theme :P
[06:41] <teja> hai all
[06:42] <aleksanteri> anyone knows a link to a vista theme? :D can't find one at kde-look
[06:43] <teja> alek wher`ar` u
[06:43] <aleksanteri> i am here :P
[06:44] <teja> ok iam :t
[06:44] <kkathman> alexicon:  I cant imagine why you cant find them..they are all over the place in kde-look
[06:44] <kkathman> oops that was for aleksanteri
[06:44] <aleksanteri> :P
[06:44] <alexicon> <_<
[06:44] <aleksanteri> i can only find screenshots
[06:44] <kkathman> you have to install them - the instructions are given
[06:46] <aleksanteri> ahh found one :D
[06:51] <mefisto__> anyone know why I can't get to desktop after login?
[06:51] <julle> !webcam
[06:51] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:51] <teja> no why
[06:53] <ubuntu> test
[06:54] <ubuntu> how install firefox?
[06:54] <aleksanteri> apt-get install firefox
[06:54] <cloakable> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:54] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[06:54] <aleksanteri> forgot sudo :P
[06:54] <cloakable> Indeed :)
[06:55] <aleksanteri> ow
[06:56] <cloakable> :P
[06:56] <begineer> hi
[06:56] <begineer> I've got problem with freepascal
[06:56] <begineer> I extracted it
[06:56] <begineer> run install.sh
[06:57] <begineer> instaled in home folder
[06:57] <begineer> open it
[06:57] <begineer> write a program
[06:57] <mefisto__> can someone help me with my login problem?
[06:57] <begineer> a when i try to compile it
[06:57] <ibert> mefisto__: whats your problem?
[06:57] <begineer> fpc was crashed and msg me
[06:57] <begineer> Fatal: Can't find unit System
[06:57] <mefisto__> after editing xorg.conf to use vesa driver, I started x, everything was fine. After restarting, I just get a plain brown desktop with a grey box in the upper left corner after login
[06:57] <begineer> what is it??
[06:58] <begineer> oh I installed fpc in normal user no root
[06:58] <begineer> i forgot to say it
[06:58] <ibert> mefisto__: this is not a login problem, but a X problem... brown desktop? are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:59] <aleksanteri> begineer: yesh, add sudo to the beginning of the command
[06:59] <aleksanteri> so you get the "root rights"
[06:59] <mefisto__> ubuntu has the problem.
[06:59] <begineer> so sudo ./install.sh
[06:59] <begineer> yes?
[06:59] <aleksanteri> yeah
[06:59] <aleksanteri> no
[06:59] <aleksanteri> sudo sh ./install.sh
[06:59] <aleksanteri> :P
[06:59] <ibert> mefisto__: I'm not sure, but it sound like a gnome problem..
[07:00] <begineer> i'll try it :)
[07:00] <ibert> mefisto__: sorry. can't help you on that.
[07:00] <aleksanteri> the sh command is the sh installing command
[07:00] <mefisto__> ok, thanks anyway ibert
[07:00] <aleksanteri> and sudo gives you the rights to do it
[07:06] <mefisto__> am I right in thinking gnome needs less system resources than kde?
[07:07] <ariel> alguien que hable espa;ol
[07:08] <B-Minus> hello
[07:09] <B-Minus> i can read fotos from my eos 400 cam with digikam as root but not with normal user, what can i do ?
[07:09] <begineer> I've got next problem :X
[07:09] <begineer> when i write
[07:09] <begineer> sudo sh ./install.sh
[07:10] <begineer> terminal msg me
[07:10] <begineer> Install prefix (/usr or /usr/local)  [/usr/local] :
[07:10] <aleksanteri> hmmm
[07:10] <begineer> i wrote /usr/local/
[07:10] <Vladdy> that's ok :O
[07:10] <aleksanteri> have you set the current directory with cd?
[07:10] <begineer> and the error is
[07:10] <ariel> alguien que me pueda ayudar!!!!!!
[07:10] <begineer> ./install.sh: line 76: cd: /home/begineer/New: No such file or directory
[07:11] <aleksanteri> so cd is set
[07:11] <aleksanteri> are you sure that /home/begineer/New exists?
[07:11] <aleksanteri> konqueror /home/begineer/New exists
[07:12] <aleksanteri> konqueror /home/begineer/New
[07:12] <jongt> anyone know why 915resolution wouldnt be working after changing xorg.conf and /etc/default/915resolution??
[07:12] <Vladdy> because you messed up? :O
[07:13] <aleksanteri> lol
[07:13] <fdoving> jongt: do you get error messages?
[07:13] <Antok> hi!
[07:13] <Antok> the order in the bootup scripts is:checkroot before of lvm, it would be possible run it after of lvm? In addition I would set up swap over lvm too
[07:13] <jongt> fdoving, xserver and kde start fine, just in 1024x768 resolution and not 1280x768.  Xorg.0.log says 1280x768 isnt a mode setting
[07:13] <jongt> which is making me think 915resolution isnt doing its job
[07:14] <Vladdy> try 1280x800 :O
[07:14] <fdoving> jongt: it's not, i've never heard of 1280x768.
[07:14] <aleksanteri> i've g2g <_< bbl
[07:14] <jongt> 915resolution -l tells me 1280x768
[07:14] <jongt> and thats what my rez is on winxp
[07:15] <jongt> i think it has to do with edgy i dunno tho
[07:15] <jongt> 915resolution is in the runlevel
[07:15] <Vladdy> err
[07:16] <Vladdy> 915resolution sounds to me like a framebuffer tool
[07:16] <Vladdy> not for x.org :O
[07:16] <Vladdy> are you sure you have the correct drivers for X.org, not vesa?
[07:16] <otaku-san> Ok I haven't upgraded to edgy yet...and Feisty is already around the corner...but mainly I haven't because of various hiccups such as Automatix not working.  If I were to install automatix 2 and then upgrade...I shouldn't have problems correct?
[07:17] <Vladdy> !upgrade
[07:17] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:20] <B-Minus> i can read fotos from my eos 400 cam with digikam as root but not with normal user, what can i do ?
[07:20] <marco__> I'm having problems copying ISO to DVD. I'm using K3b and it gives me always an error: wrong media type or problem with media.
[07:20] <Vladdy> B-Minus: permissions not good then ;-)
[07:20] <Antok> any tool to modifying rc levels?
[07:20] <B-Minus> Vladdy: yes but where can i change them .. is there some group this user needs to be in ?
[07:20] <jongt> Vladdy, im i810 drivers
[07:21] <jongt> 915resolution enables larger res's than stored in vbios
[07:21] <Vladdy> Antok: /etc/inittab and /etc/rc?.d I think kde has some stuff for it in "system settings"
[07:21] <otaku-san> Vladdy: thanks for that, m8
[07:21] <faLUCE> Hi.. A simple question: I want to start icewm after booting, without a password. is there a way to do it?
[07:21] <amitron> I have printer problems here. (Kubuntu 6.10)
[07:21] <Vladdy> B-Minus: what groups are you in then? Easiest to see is with "groups" in shell.
[07:21] <Vladdy> faLUCE: yes :-) next question
[07:22] <faLUCE> vladdy: the answer please:)
[07:22] <Vladdy> !doesn't work > amitron
[07:23] <Vladdy> faLUCE: longer answer: depends on how you log in, default is with kdm in kubuntu :O you can configure that in system settings -> advanced -> login screen (or something)
[07:23] <B-Minus> tommy@tommy-laptop:~/downloads/firefox$ groups
[07:23] <B-Minus> tommy adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[07:23] <B-Minus> those
[07:23] <amitron> I have an EPSON Stylus Photo RX520 which is SUPPOSED to be in Gutenprint, but it's not.
[07:23] <marco__> Anyone knows other cd/dvd copier program? I'm using k3b but i'm having problems
[07:24] <faLUCE> let's try vladdy
[07:26] <Vladdy> B-Minus: how do you access the camera then?
[07:27] <B-Minus> Vladdy: its PTP, when i start digikam i can read the files and download with root
[07:27] <B-Minus> but with normal user it says it cant connect to the cam
[07:27] <B-Minus> i use USB
[07:27] <Vladdy> B-Minus: what program are you using then to access it?
[07:27] <B-Minus> digikam
[07:29] <Vladdy> B-Minus: plug it in, access camera, and then show me output of cat /proc/mounts (in pastebin)
[07:29] <Vladdy> !pastebin
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <B-Minus> access with root ?
[07:30] <Vladdy> yeah
[07:33] <B-Minus> Vladdy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36453/
[07:34] <Vladdy> B-Minus: is that with camera attached? :S
[07:34] <B-Minus> yes
[07:35] <_kai> I have a question, I just installed a program its not in the menu, how do I find it?
[07:36] <fdoving> _kai: a kde program?
[07:36] <Vladdy> B-Minus: is there something like camera in /dev ?
[07:36] <_kai> im not sure
[07:36] <faLUCE> great Vladdy... now I want to configure icewm as the default desktop: which is the file which I have to change?
[07:36] <fdoving> _kai: what program?
[07:36] <_kai> its called junior-typing when I installed it thru aptitude
[07:37] <Vladdy> faLUCE: by default it will boot the last desktop you logged in with
[07:37] <Vladdy> iirc
[07:37] <mducharme> is there a way in the graphical package manager to install a specific version of a package (ie. downgrade)?
[07:37] <Vladdy> not sure for auto-login
[07:37] <B-Minus> Vladdy: nope :)
[07:38] <fdoving> _kai: that's actually a package that will install 4 other programs. tipptrainer, typespeed, gtypist and xletters.
[07:38] <faLUCE> well, but I need that it boots always with icewm: which is the config file?
[07:38] <_kai> It did do that but I don't know where to find it to use it
[07:38] <inkwell> composite manager keeps crashing....anyone had this problem?
[07:39] <Vladdy> inkwell: kde's composite manager?
[07:39] <inkwell> yes
[07:39] <amitron> Where do I get a driver for the printer Epson Stylus Photo RX520?
[07:39] <Vladdy> !google
[07:39] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[07:40] <Vladdy> :p
[07:40] <amitron> I searched there like mad
[07:40] <tsdgeos> amitron: tried linuxprinting?
[07:41] <tsdgeos> amitron: probably you DON'T need one as it's already installed by cups or foomatic
[07:41] <_kai> fdoving: So I can't use the program in kde?
[07:41] <amitron> tsdgeos: No, It's not
[07:41] <kkathman> amitron:  I assume you went directly to the Epson web site also?
[07:41] <amitron> Erh, no
[07:41] <kkathman> I'd try that
[07:41] <amitron> Okay, thanks
[07:42] <fdoving> _kai: sure, install the debian-menu system 'sudo aptitude install menu' then run 'kbuildsycoca' then use the kmenu -> debian menu.
[07:42] <tsdgeos> amitron: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_RX520
[07:42] <tsdgeos> install gutenprint package
[07:42] <harmental> does anybody know why the rendering of the OO.org suite is not good?
[07:43] <olegfink> hi you all
[07:43] <_kai> fdoving: where do I run kbuildsycoca?
[07:43] <_kai> I have the menu already
[07:44] <Vladdy> B-Minus: I'm not sure how the program communicates with the camera
[07:44] <olegfink> when I used to run kubuntu my radeon x300 worked with dri using 'radeon' driver
[07:44] <amitron> tsdgeos: I checked on Epson and Gutenprint websites. Turns out neither of them have a driver for my printer.
[07:44] <olegfink> can anyone give me such an xorg.conf?
[07:44] <fdoving> _kai: ah.. then you don't need to run kbuildsycoca.. you'll find the programs in the debian submenu iirc.
[07:44] <tsdgeos> amitron: have you read the page i posted? it seems quite clear for me it WORKS
[07:45] <_kai> I dont have a sub menu iirc, I have the debian: help, wine, apps, and xshells
[07:45] <amitron> tsdgeos: I looked at it. There is no driver, though. I have Gutenprint. I checked via the CUPS web-interface AND System Settings
[07:48] <kath> Allo!!
[07:48] <Vladdy> bbs
[07:48] <Vladdy> *g0ne*
[07:49] <fdoving> _kai: can you find something under debian -> apps?
[07:50] <_kai> fdoving: Nothing that resembles a typing program
[07:50] <salambander> What are you looking for, _kai?
[07:50] <fdoving> _kai: hmm.. i'd suggest installing 'ktouch' then.
[07:50] <_kai> I installes a typing programming
[07:50] <_kai> I got Junior-typing
[07:51] <_kai> ktouch eh?
[07:51] <salambander> tuxtype is cute, if a little childish. ktouch is a bit boring...
[07:51] <salambander> But it's more advanced
[07:52] <_kai> fdoving: Thanx, its installing some additional Libs in my edutainment lol
[07:54] <_kai> Awsome, Im workin on my typion skillz for prgramming
[07:54] <_kai> typing skills
[07:54] <_kai> As You can see I cant type
[07:55] <salambander> ha ha, me too. I got tuxtype and ktouch this morning.
[07:55] <salambander> up to 30 w/m
[07:55] <_kai> That was fast
[07:55] <salambander> but then, I'm cheating. I only use three fingers on each hand. better than one...
[07:55] <_kai> Well Im doin ig cus Im studying being a java programmed and I think it would be a damned gud thung to tknow
[07:56] <BluesKaj> hey gents , I'm installing beryl and I'm trying to create a file : To create the login entry, create a new file /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop and make it look like this:
[07:56] <BluesKaj> however, the file I'm creating be it text or otherwise doesn't let me write to it
[07:56] <salambander> Yeah, I started java, keep meaning to continue. Lady here, Blueskaj, if ya don't mind. Anyone know where I can get an IDE for Java, Perl, C++ and Unix?
[07:57] <_kai> salambander: I love java soo much as a language, I m takinng my cert class early next year for java 5
[07:58] <_kai> After that Im goin for my MySQL cert
[07:58] <_kai> ..Im thinking about a linux admin cert too
[07:58] <salambander> I liked it too. But after you've done Java Python annoys the crap outta u
[07:58] <_kai> I've never done pythin
[07:58] <BluesKaj> salambander, http://www.scripts.com/
[07:58] <_kai> My teacher was like only go after Strongly typed laanguages
[07:59] <salambander> don't bother. It's like Java, in fact the code is almost identical, but it compiles and runs line by frikking line
[07:59] <_kai> oh it sequential
[07:59] <salambander> Thanks blueskaj
[07:59] <_kai> OOP all the way baby
[07:59] <salambander> whoot!
[07:59] <_kai> go get this book
[07:59] <_kai> Deitel & Deitel 7e
[07:59] <BluesKaj> I'm installing beryl and I'm trying to create a file : To create the login entry, create a new file /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop and make it look like this: however, the file I'm creating be it text or otherwise doesn't let me write to it
[08:00] <_kai> Its the BEST book for java
[08:00] <_kai> its 100+ dollars but its well worth the money
[08:00] <salambander> Mmmm... I'm a bit strapped for cash at the moment, so I'd rather stick to free online tuts, but I'll keep it in mind
[08:00] <_kai> I have to go tho
[08:00] <_kai> I have an interview in a few
[08:00] <_kai> Keep it pimpin'
[08:01] <salambander> Good luck!
[08:01] <salambander> hee hee, pimpin' *bounces hydraulics*
[08:01] <ubuntu_> I've booted the kubuntu live cd as partition magic was resizing my drive C and failed half way - cant mount the ntfs partition as the file table is probably b0rked - any ideas on how to repair the table from linux/dos (as i cant put windows on without removing this one which is b0rked)
[08:01] <ubuntu_> I've booted the kubuntu live cd as partition magic was resizing my drive C and failed half way - cant mount the ntfs partition as the file table is probably b0rked - any ideas on how to repair the table from linux/dos (as i cant put windows on without removing this one which is b0rked)
[08:02] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to create a file : /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop. Problem is, a file with a name can't be written to .... any ideas ?
[08:02] <salambander> Hmm...sorry ubuntu, I'm a bit of a newb at Unix/linux coding so I can't help ya
[08:02] <BluesKaj> that name
[08:03] <inetpro> ubotu: !repeat | BluesKaj
[08:03] <ubotu> BluesKaj: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:04] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, DL GParted Live cd partitioner.. it's much safer than PM and you may be able to rescue the c drive contents
[08:05] <kestas> i installed gimpshop but when i try to open it all i get is gimp with the gimpshop splashscreen
[08:05] <inetpro> BluesKaj: how is it that you go about to create /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop?
[08:06] <kestas> anyone know what i am talking about?
[08:07] <inetpro> BluesKaj: the directory /usr/share/xsessions/ is owned by root
[08:13] <sirk> how do I change the standard kde web browser?
[08:14] <Vladdy> sirk: in system settings somewhere
[08:15] <sirk> well, I cant find anything
[08:15] <fdoving> sirk: system settings -> default applications -> webbrowser
[08:15] <sirk> also in kubuntu?
[08:15] <salambander> Hmm... Do you want to change completely or just personalise it?
[08:15] <sirk> because many programs open konqueror when I click a http link
[08:15] <sirk> although I am using gnome and firefox
[08:16] <sirk> that's why I'm asking how to change the standard web browser for kde
[08:16] <salambander> I mean, do you want to change from firefox to say, Opera or...Change certain settings on firefox?
[08:16] <sirk> no, I want  to change it from konqueror to firefox only.
[08:17] <sirk> I think most gnome apps start firefox well
[08:17] <sirk> but some apps start konqueror
[08:17] <sirk> that's my problem
[08:17] <fdoving> sirk: system settings -> default applications -> webbrowser, set that to firefox.
[08:17] <sirk> already done...
[08:20] <BluesKaj> sirk, sys/settings/default apps/
[08:21] <BluesKaj> oops
[08:23] <inetpro> sirk: open konquerer and click on Settings -> Configure Konquerer
[08:23] <BluesKaj> any ideas ... beryl: No composite extension...I've changed this several times according to advice from differnt advisory sites, but no commands seem to make any differnce , beryl is still a no show
[08:24] <inetpro> sirk: then File Assosi... open text then choose html and change the app preference
[08:26] <der_lunz> beryl doesn't work without the composite extension. no show.
[08:27] <arsenal_> elo elo witam was wszystkich :)
[08:28] <Zamber> elo ziom :D
[08:28] <fdoving> !pl
[08:28] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:28] <arsenal_> mam pytanie czy jest mi w stanie ktos pomoc?
[08:28] <PhinnFort> !pl
[08:28] <PhinnFort> ffs
[08:28] <arsenal_> chodzi o blueconnecta
[08:28] <Zamber> fdoving how did you know we are polish :p
[08:29] <fdoving> Zamber: vodoomagic :)
[08:29] <PhinnFort> lol
[08:29] <Zamber> thought so :p
[08:29] <salambander> dzien dobry! Please forgive spelling
[08:29] <PhinnFort> is there some website with new splash screens?
[08:29] <fdoving> Zamber: /whois zamber
[08:29] <Zamber> oh yeah :P
[08:29] <gebruiker> kubuntu
[08:29] <Zamber> freenode has some spoof service?
[08:30] <Zamber> any* :P
[08:30] <Zamber> !spoof
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spoof - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <Vladdy> brb
[08:30] <fdoving> Zamber: yes, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[08:30] <Zamber> thx ;)
[08:31] <salambander> ...*is lost*
[08:31] <|WAL|> where can I get JRE 1.5 or 1.6 in Kubuntu repositories?
[08:32] <fdoving> !java
[08:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:34] <r2> I installed kubuntu 6.10 and now windows leave traces when I drag them and letters
[08:34] <r2> any idea where I can find info about it?
[08:35] <|WAL|> fdoving: where is the multiverse?
[08:35] <Zamber>  /nick Zamber_
[08:35] <Zamber_>  /msg nickserv link Zamber maska1
[08:36] <fdoving> Zamber_: change your password.
[08:36] <Zamber_> I know
[08:36] <der_lunz> r2: try to look if the xorg driver is ok.
[08:36] <Zamber_> one sec xD
[08:36] <fdoving> !multiverse | |wal|
[08:36] <ubotu> |wal|: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:37] <r2> the gears in glxgears look pretty nice, does this mena the xorg driver works fuiine&
[08:37] <|WAL|> fdoving: does this not cover it: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse main updates security
[08:37] <r2> fine*
[08:38] <fdoving> |WAL|: updates and security does not exist.
[08:38] <r2> by the way I installed fxglr but this didn't help much I think
[08:38] <|WAL|> fdoving: ok thanks, I think I got it
[08:39] <fdoving> r2: open a konsole session and run 'glxinfo | grep -i rendering' - does it say Yes ?
[08:40] <Zamber> changed :P
[08:40] <elt0n_afk> hi everybody
[08:40] <r2> says Yes
[08:40] <elt0n_afk> i have an input file witch should be reformated
[08:40] <elt0n_afk> its something like that:
[08:40] <fdoving> r2: then it works.
TheTextThatIWant
[08:41] <r2> but I stiil have those traces and the letters go...eehh...blurry when I scroll
[08:41] <der_lunz> r2: could it be a hardware issue, my laptop had that once
[08:41] <elt0n_afk> so i thought i could use gawk to get the test after the last > but i dont know how
[08:41] <elt0n_afk> because i never used awk before
[08:42] <fdoving> elt0n_afk: can you explain more in detail how this should work?
[08:42] <der_lunz> r2: otherwise search the web, about issues with your gfx driver
[08:43] <r2> I searched through the forums but found nothing...thanks anyways
[08:43] <elt0n_afk> fdoving: yes.i have an input file and it was a html file, i used cat and cut to get this format but now i got a problem! not all lines are equal. some lines have 4 tags bevore my text starts and some have 5 tags bevor the text starts
[08:43] <elt0n_afk> fdoving: so i want to read from the end of the line to the first appeareance of >
[08:44] <elt0n_afk> with a bash script
[08:44] <fdoving> elt0n_afk: are there tags after your text?
[08:44] <elt0n_afk> no
[08:44] <sercik> ciao a tutti!!
[08:44] <der_lunz> r2: have you tried the xorg vesa driver to rule out such problems?
[08:45] <fdoving> elt0n_afk: then you can use 'rev' to reverse the line, and use evertyhign before the first <, and then rev again to get it in the proper order.
[08:45] <elt0n> fdoving: ah thx
[08:45] <elt0n> thats what i want
[08:46] <fdoving> elt0n: an example: echo '<foo><bar>zoo'|rev|cut -d '>' -f1|rev
[08:46] <r2> no, I haven't
[08:46] <r2> should I?
[08:47] <r2> I read too much opinions against using vesa drivers (I have ati by the way)
[08:47] <Zamber> fdoving is there any time limit before I can register my cloack?
[08:47] <fdoving> elt0n: note, you cut a reversed <, (>).
[08:47] <fdoving> Zamber: no idea.
[08:47] <Zamber> :P
[08:47] <Zamber> the faq says nothing about it
[08:49] <der_lunz> r2: try a low resolution like 1024x768 to be sure. the vesa driver isn't really fast, but works on almost every card.
[08:49] <elt0n> fdoving: thx i wil try
[08:49] <chopin|pc> how do i tell grub to boot a cd?
[08:50] <elt0n> fdoving: it seems that stdin ist too long for rev or something like that
[08:51] <fdoving> elt0n: hm?
[08:51] <elt0n> fdovin: rev: stdin: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character
[08:51] <chopin|pc> !grub
[08:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:52] <r2> ok, ill give it a try
[08:52] <r2> don't think it's the best way out though
[08:53] <r2> it's all the same ^(((
[08:53] <fdoving> elt0n: try to add cut -A before the first rev.
[08:53] <elt0n> ok
[08:53] <der_lunz> no it isn't , but in any case you know if it was the driver or not.
[08:53] <fdoving> elt0n: echo '<foo><bar>zoo'|cut -A|rev|cut -d '>' -f1|rev  - maybe?
[08:53] <der_lunz> then you know how to investigate further
[08:54] <fdoving> elt0n: I mean 'cat -A'
[08:54] <luca> hi everyone
[08:55] <luca> I have just discovered that the i810 driver is completely buggy, anybody has suggestions with what to substitute it with?
[08:55] <elt0n> fdoving: thx no errors now
[08:55] <Zamber> how to disable the panel animation (that bloppy title boxes)?
[08:55] <aleksanteri> where's the look 'n' feel button?
[08:55] <aleksanteri> sry i am stupid again :P
[08:56] <kkathman> aleksanteri:  system settings on your kmenu - then appearance
[08:56] <elt0n> fdoving: i'm afk for a mom
[08:56] <aleksanteri> ok
[08:57] <aleksanteri> because i am still looking for a way to install that skin :P
[08:57] <kkathman> or you can alt-f2 and type kcontrol :)
[08:57] <fdoving> Zamber: rightclick on the panel -> configure panel -> appearance -> untick 'Enable icon mouseover effects'
[08:57] <luca> anyone has suggestions?
[08:58] <Vladdy> luca: a different graphics card? :D
[08:58] <fdoving> luca: i have no experience with intel cards.. sorry.
[08:58] <luca> Vladdy, fdoving it is a laptop :(
[08:58] <Zamber> fdoving thanks ;)
[08:58] <aleksanteri> ok thx
[08:58] <Zamber> it will work instantly?
[08:58] <denven> hi
[08:58] <denven> can someone help me ? with setting up server
[08:59] <Zamber> coz my xgl/beryl crashes then that animation shows itself
[08:59] <luca> the vesa drivers function....kinda....but not for high applications...
[09:00] <Vladdy> luca: evil :S
[09:00] <Vladdy> only experience I have with i810 was for writing an embedded client, i810 chipset is horribly evil
[09:00] <luca> :S fantastic
[09:00] <wildchild> does anyone uses here amarok shouting (don't know how to set bitrate)
[09:00] <Vladdy> you can try your luck with google though
[09:01] <luca> in months looking for solution with the suspension problem, I did NEVER find out that the cuplrit was i810
[09:01] <luca> I could verily be the first one guy recongnizing the problem
[09:01] <luca> :S
[09:05] <wildchild> does anyone uses here amarok shouting (don't know how to set bitrate)
[09:06] <cloakable> !ayttm
[09:06] <ubotu> ayttm: Universal Instant Messaging Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6+34-1 (edgy), package size 1801 kB, installed size 4964 kB
[09:06] <Vladdy> wildchild: have you tried amarok documentation first? or a simple google on amarok + bitrate + shouting?
[09:06] <wildchild> nop
[09:07] <Vladdy> I suggest that first ;-)
[09:08] <wildchild> nothing usefull :S
[09:09] <sercik> Hi! someone could explain me hot to stream music on internet with ubuntu? a solution like winamp + shoutcast will be appreciated
[09:09] <luca> anyone knows where I should file th bug report?
[09:09] <luca> sercik: I think amarok should be able to
[09:09] <sercik> ciao luca
[09:09] <luca> !amarok
[09:09] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[09:10] <sercik> i have amarok installed and working
[09:10] <sercik> is there some plugin to stream?
[09:10] <luca> ciao sercik ;)
[09:11] <luca> uhm I actually dunno...well what i usually do is using media player connectivity, an add-on for firefox
[09:11] <luca> and set it so that the streams will go into the desired player
[09:12] <luca> anyone knows where I should file the driver bug anyhow?
[09:13] <fdoving> luca: http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:14] <luca> fdoving thanks
[09:15] <luca> I guess they will have to be content with my qualitative description though :(
[09:16] <vado> Bonsoir tout le monde
[09:16] <fdoving> !fr | vado
[09:16] <ubotu> vado: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:17] <vado> !fr yourself
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr yourself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <galathalion> how do you share a folder?
[09:20] <Vladdy> depends on how you want to share it
[09:20] <galathalion>  on the locan network
[09:21] <Vladdy> galathalion: with windows?
[09:22] <galathalion> Vladdy: no.. i have a folder i wanna send to another computer in my home network. i wanna "share" it but dont know how.
[09:22] <Stardog> uhm... anyone here that may tip me about wich IM client is the most stable in k edgy?
[09:23] <Vladdy> galathalion: windows pc or linux pc?
[09:23] <Vladdy> Stardog: kopete is best :-)
[09:23] <galathalion> Vladdy: well.. this is the kubuntu-channel right?
[09:23] <Stardog> Vladdy: well, i've been experiencing some aborted filetransfers everytime i try to recieve from winmsn
[09:24] <Vladdy> yep ;S
[09:24] <Vladdy> same here, even with sending
[09:24] <Stardog> aha
[09:24] <Vladdy> I prefer to put it on some webpage and mail link, easy with scp :-)
[09:24] <galathalion> Stardog: what about gaim=
[09:24] <Vladdy> gaim might work
[09:24] <Stardog> a common thingy ye :)
[09:25] <Stardog> might try it.
[09:25] <Vladdy> i like it how kopete integrates with rest of kde programs ;-)
[09:25] <galathalion> Vladdy: so do you know the answer to my question?
[09:26] <sercik> I use synaptic to manage package but i have this problem
[09:26] <Vladdy> galathalion: do both pc's run kubuntu?
[09:27] <galathalion> Vladdy: no the other one is a mac
[09:27] <sercik> when i launvh synaptic as user i can't modify but i see cathegorized but when i launch sith sudo synaptic i can't see categories
[09:27] <kkathman> sercik:  why not use Adept? That is what is suggested.
[09:27] <Vladdy> !samba
[09:27] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:29] <sercik> kkathman: adept is only for standard packages while synaptic search on repositories specified in sources.list!
[09:29] <sercik> i'd like to have a categorized view in synaptic to search for program to install
[09:29] <kkathman> sercik:  lol.. no, adept will work with anything in your sources.list as long as you configure it to do so
[09:30] <sercik> could you help me?
[09:30] <BluesKaj> anyone using beryl with ATI Xpress200 card ?
[09:30] <Stardog> and another thing... mozilla mailclient is dead when I try tto fetch mail... nothing happends... not even av failure protocol or something... common problem?
[09:30] <sercik> in synaptic i can see more packages than in adept
[09:30] <BluesKaj> it's on board
[09:30] <robert_> i think i messed up my reopsitories
[09:30] <faLUCE> Hi. still haven't found a solution for my previous question: I need to find the files which configures the default window manager.....
[09:30] <robert_> !how to fix repositories
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how to fix repositories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <Stardog> !Mozilla Mail
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Mozilla Mail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <BluesKaj> faLUCE, which vers of kubuntu ?
[09:31] <LjL> Ubotu, tell robert_ about repositories | robert_, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:31] <BluesKaj> !Thunderbird
[09:31] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[09:32] <cloakable> !Tomsrtbt
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Tomsrtbt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <faLUCE> BluesKaj: 6.06
[09:33] <kkathman> sercik:  maybe you need to update (sudo apt-get update)
[09:33] <kkathman> but I assure you that adept runs from the sources.list...just go to view/manage repositories and you should basically see your sources.list file :)
[09:33] <sercik> i will try
[09:34] <sercik> but the problem was another
[09:34] <sercik> i'd like to use synaptic but i can't obtain a categorized lists when i run with root permissions
[09:36] <kkathman> sercik:  when I go to my kmenu/system/synaptic and click, it prompts for my root password (hence it runs in root) and I see all the categories on the left
[09:36] <wildchild> Is in edgy possible to set up ftp server?
[09:36] <wildchild> is it allready installed or do I have to install some package for ftp server?
[09:36] <sercik> excuse kkathman i see on my kmenu the voice add remove programs is this adept)
[09:36] <sercik> ?
[09:37] <kkathman> wildchild:  you would probably have to install it
[09:37] <kkathman> sercik:  thats the adept-installer
[09:37] <wildchild> kkathman: maybe u know the name of the package?
[09:37] <sercik> exact
[09:37] <kkathman> sercik:  you want the Adept Package Manager or adept-manager
[09:37] <sercik> but the real adept where is?
[09:37] <kkathman> wildchild:  try apt-cache search FTP  probably you'll get a few that are in the repos
[09:38] <kkathman> sercik:  kmenu/system  - top item
[09:39] <kkathman> wildchild:   probably proftpd will be what you want
[09:39] <kkathman> but there are others Im sure
[09:39] <sercik> is this shortcut :kdesu adept_manager?
[09:39] <kkathman> sercik: It should be on your kmenu under SYSTEM
[09:39] <kkathman> the very top item
[09:39] <sercik> ok i have found it
[09:39] <faLUCE> Hi. still haven't found a solution for my previous question: I need to find the files which configures the default window manager.....
[09:40] <sercik> is not the very top but i have found
[09:40] <sercik> adept manager
[09:40] <sercik> excuse but add remove programs what is?
[09:40] <kkathman> sercik:  ok, well then you've altered the menu then
[09:40] <kkathman> add/remove is adept-installer
[09:40] <sercik> not important
[09:40] <sercik> excuse me again but the differences?
[09:41] <sercik> adept-installer is for packager in dvd?
[09:41] <kkathman> sercik:  adept-manager manages the whole apt environment, while the installer basically installs new programs
[09:41] <kkathman> or removes them
[09:41] <galathalion> !samba
[09:41] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:41] <kkathman> run them both and you'll see the difference
[09:42] <aleksante> !wine
[09:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:42] <aleksante> :P
[09:42] <sercik> the problem is that i can see few packages like prevoisly told
[09:42] <aleksante> btw how do you get the current XOrg version
[09:42] <aleksante> ?
[09:43] <kkathman> sercik:  hard to explain  its a very rich search/display interface, perhaps you dont have the checkboxes configured correctly
[09:43] <sercik> kkathman don't surrender!!
[09:43] <kkathman> ?
[09:43] <sercik> please help me if you can!
[09:44] <sercik> so don't worry about adep_installer
[09:44] <kkathman> sercik:  when I start the adept manager, I can only tell you that I see a very large list of programs :)
[09:45] <sercik> now could you explain me only adept_manager
[09:46] <kkathman> sercik:  yes, when you open the interface... toward the top you will see several check (or X) boxes
[09:47] <kkathman> sercik:  checking these accordingly, allows you to see the packages you want and exclude others
[09:47] <sercik> i will return in a minute
[09:47] <kkathman> sercik:  in my case, all the boxes start out as checked
[09:47] <kkathman> so I see everything
[09:48] <kkathman> now if you uncheck, say the box that says "not installed" then your list will get smaller
[09:49] <jo3> hi
[09:49] <mbb> how do I change screen resolution from KDE (edgy, gnome install, with KDE base added to try KDE) so far can't find that in menus...
[09:50] <rag> no dial tone for sudo wvdial
[09:50] <rag> ?
[09:50] <rag> please!
[09:51] <ubuntu_> hola
[09:53] <sercik> ok i see a list incomprensible
[09:53] <sercik> alfhabetical order but very much packages
[09:53] <Zamber> many*
[09:53] <sercik> if you know what install is ok but is you don't know?
[09:53] <Zamber> or "a lot of"
[09:53] <Zamber> it's better that way ^^
[09:53] <sercik> zamber thanks to correct me
[09:53] <kkathman> sercik:  there are ways to select or deselect that list
[09:54] <Zamber> np ;)
[09:54] <sercik> zamber do you speak italian?
[09:54] <Zamber> nope
[09:54] <Zamber> polish ^^
[09:54] <kkathman> at the far right there is a list of tags, you can click on the ALL tab, and it will show you the various tags available
[09:54] <Zamber> !it
[09:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:54] <Zamber> :D
[09:54] <kkathman> you can then drag and drop those to the top under Tags I want and Tags I dont want for instance
[09:55] <sercik> so don't break my ... :))
[09:55] <LjL> mbb: System Settings / Monitor and Display
[09:55] <LjL> mbb: doesn't always quite work, but it's definitely there
[09:55] <sercik> i see on the right three labels smart simple all
[09:56] <sercik> this could help me?
[09:56] <kkathman> yes .. select ALL
[09:56] <kkathman> and do as I instructed above
[09:56] <sercik> ok i start to understand
[09:57] <sercik> thank you very much
[09:57] <kkathman> or you can search for a package at the very top
[09:57] <kkathman> personally I just do all of my package management from the CLI :)
[09:57] <sercik> what is CLI?
[09:58] <kkathman> sercik:  Command Line Interface (the console)
[09:59] <sercik> i'm stupid excuse!
[09:59] <kkathman> no, you are learning :)
[09:59] <kkathman> we all had to learn at one time, sercik :)
[10:00] <sercik> ok ok not real stupid i'm not stupid!
[10:01] <sercik> Zamber where are you come here and fight!
[10:01] <Zamber> woot xD?
[10:02] <Zamber> :P
[10:02] <sercik> what?
[10:02] <Zamber> die~~!
[10:02] <Zamber> xD
[10:02] <sercik> Zamber i appreciate that you correct me i'd like to improve my english
[10:03] <Zamber> sercik IRC is one of the best ways to do that
[10:03] <sercik> yes you're right
[10:04] <Zamber> ofcourse a real convesation is better :P
[10:04] <Zamber> well
[10:04] <Zamber> there are many pros and cons of normal speaking and typing
[10:05] <sercik> yes zamber
[10:05] <Zamber> when you type you can think about the sentence and correct it ;)
[10:05] <sercik> we could use skype
[10:05] <Zamber> sercik you're using ubuntu, right? :P
[10:05] <sercik> kubuntu
[10:05] <sercik> i have abandoned fedora
[10:05] <Zamber> oh right ^^
[10:06] <Zamber> I'm also weak in english
[10:06] <sercik> zamber aht do you mean with ^^
[10:06] <sercik> what
[10:06] <Zamber> you must have aspell by default ;)
[10:06] <Zamber> in your system
[10:06] <sercik> so?
[10:07] <Zamber> in Xchat I (dunno nothing about other IRC clients) have a red underline on incorrect words ;)
[10:08] <sercik> i use konversation now but i will try the other
[10:08] <Zamber> sercik Xchat is not to pretty :P
[10:08] <Zamber> but useful ^^
[10:08] <kkathman> another good IRC client is kvirc
[10:08] <sercik> i had appreciated that konversation comes intalled preconfigured with ubuntu channel
[10:08] <Zamber> ;)
[10:09] <sercik> kkathman are you here?
[10:09] <kkathman> yes
[10:09] <Zamber> I did'nt know about it ;)
[10:09] <sercik> for example in synaptic i have a category multiverse games but i can't find it in adept_manager
[10:09] <Zamber> I was using Xchat under windows erlier :D
[10:09] <sercik> also if i search for example quake2 and then properties in adept_manager
[10:10] <Rob-West> kubuntu is fun
[10:10] <sercik> he tell about multiverse/games gategory
[10:10] <Zamber> strange. Try by sudo apt-cache search package-name-or-part-of-it
[10:10] <Zamber> Rob-West true ;)
[10:11] <Rob-West> its just like Knoppix
[10:11] <kkathman> sercik:  type "quake" or "kuake" at the top under search
[10:11] <kkathman> or
[10:11] <Zamber> Rob-West not exacly
[10:11] <Rob-West> its not a similar GUI
[10:11] <Zamber> Knoppix is a diff. distr
[10:11] <georgeb> hi, I just saw that there is a rather massive update to X and kde; do you have a link where I can see more details ?
[10:11] <sercik> kkathman: adept_manager find quake if i search
[10:11] <Zamber> ofc. based on Debian, just like ubuntu ;)
[10:11] <kkathman> at the far right, click ALL, and choose the GAMES tag, open it and see all the various categories of games and drag them to the "Tags I want "
[10:12] <kkathman> sercik:  when I type "quake" at the search line, I find all of the quake files, including quake2
[10:12] <Zamber> an update? interesting
[10:12] <Rob-West> i even have Kubuntu Edgy
[10:13] <sercik> kkathman can i speak one minutes to you in pvt?
[10:13] <kkathman> sure
[10:13] <sercik> i will try to explain better
[10:13] <georgeb> yeah.. I have 82 packages on the update list :) mostly X and kde
[10:14] <Rob-West> how do i update to KDE 4
[10:14] <Zamber> it's out already?!
[10:15] <Rob-West> idk
[10:15] <Rob-West> oh know its not
[10:15] <Zamber> is there a way to disable translation searching in sources.list ?
[10:16] <trappist> kde4 won't be released for a long time, but Rob-West, there are packages in the kubuntu.org repo - I wouldn't install them if I were you, though.  they're like very pre-alpha.
[10:16] <georgeb> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php
[10:16] <georgeb> The second development snapshot of KDE 4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Edgy. These are intended for developers only.
[10:17] <Zamber> georgeb is there a way to boot 4 seperatly from 3 ?
[10:17] <aseigo> Zamber: easiest (as in, most foolproof) is to set up a second user and use them
[10:18] <Zamber> :D thanks aseigo ;)
[10:18] <Zamber> will try ^^
[10:18] <georgeb> I haven't tried it; I was looking for info on kubuntu.com about that update, and I saw that announcement :)
[10:20] <BluesKaj> well, I've come to the concusion that if you want direct rendering and radeon fglrx driver support for ATI cards so that programs like google earth are rendered properly , then Beryl and XGL is out of the question ... at least that's what i have to conclude from my experiments from today
[10:20] <BluesKaj> tries.
[10:21] <cloakable> Where are the scripts ofr Konversation stored?
[10:22] <Zamber> BluesKaj I have ATI and xgl/beryl onboard
[10:22] <Zamber> works quite good
[10:22] <trappist> cloakable: looks like /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/
[10:22] <trappist> cloakable: and/or /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/
[10:22] <cloakable> Thanks :)
[10:22] <BluesKaj> Zamber, have you tried to run google earth ?
[10:22] <buntu> where I can find wine-config script , sidenet don't work
[10:23] <Zamber> I wanted to run beryl under aiglx but aiglx don't works with fglrx
[10:23] <cs_> seems i forgot that command to set the default soundcard to my sound blaster live again :S
[10:23] <Zamber> BluesKaj GE is not booting right for me, dunno why
[10:23] <Zamber> DRI is enabled
[10:23] <Zamber> it stops on the initalization window
[10:24] <BluesKaj> that's what I mean Zamber , the settings for the fglrx drivers in direct rendering 3D  conflicts with settings for Beryl and XGL
[10:25] <Zamber> gotta get nvidia xD
[10:25] <BluesKaj> I tried having both , no luck
[10:26] <BluesKaj> well, til i get an nVidia card I'll leave the eye candy alone for now , Zamber
[10:26] <mbb> LjL:  System Settings / Monitor and Display - oddly, not in my menus. maybe because this was  gnome install, with just kde-base added?
[10:26] <LjL> mbb: yes.
[10:26] <BluesKaj> I prefer being able to use google earth vs beryl
[10:26] <LjL> mbb: sudo apt-get install kde-guidance, i guess
[10:26] <_osh> It's either eye-candy or suspend for now isn't it? You can't have both on a laptop?
[10:27] <galathalion> i have samba installed. what do i do now?
[10:27] <mbb> LjL: OK, will try that now, thanks.
[10:27] <Zamber> galathalion man & google
[10:27] <Zamber> !samba
[10:27] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:27] <BluesKaj> the ATI cards have driver setting conflicts with beryl and google earth and prolly a loyya games
[10:28] <Zamber> BluesKaj but anyway xgl/beryl works and you can impress some noobs xD
[10:28] <Zamber> and add something like "Hey! I did it myself! With this hands! Runs only on linux babe :P"
[10:29] <georgeb> Zamber: I have it on a thinkpad, and I just punch the laptop on the sides and the cube rotates... smack my [think]  pad up :)
[10:30] <buntu> where can I find "wine-config" auto script
[10:30] <Zamber> georgeb :D gotta make somethin for mind controlling too :P
[10:30] <Zamber> !wine-config
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <Zamber> !wine
[10:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:31] <Zamber> buntu is'nt it developed with wine by default ?
[10:31] <georgeb> hmm.. maybe a webcam with a program that tracks the movements of your hand.. that would be pretty.. spooky :)
[10:31] <buntu> no
[10:32] <Zamber> buntu $ sudo apt-cache search wine-config
[10:33] <Hawkwind> apt-cache search does *not* need to be done with sudo
[10:33] <Zamber> and make sure that you have wine repos in your sources.list
[10:33] <Zamber> Hawkwind sorry, my mistake ;)
[10:35] <Zerb_Riss> man, is there ANYWHERE online that talks about customizing KDE?
[10:36] <aseigo> Zerb_Riss: customizing in which way?
[10:36] <aseigo> Zerb_Riss: the look/feel? settings and configurations? both? neither? =)
[10:36] <Zerb_Riss> look/feel
[10:37] <Zamber> thanks ^^
[10:37] <georgeb> Zamber: may the force be with you :)
[10:37] <cloakable> :)
[10:37] <Zerb_Riss> customizing settings in KDE is easy and awesome
[10:37] <Zamber> !kde4
[10:37] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[10:37] <cloakable> Zamber: May the swartz be with you :)
[10:37] <Zerb_Riss> but I cna't figure out how to do anything else, like make the taskbar transparent and track desktop changes so it always appears right
[10:38] <Zamber> swartz is black in german :P
[10:38] <Zamber> I did'nt got this one xD
[10:38] <Zamber> ohh xD
[10:38] <Zamber> cosmic balls?
[10:38] <georgeb> Zamber: May the schwartz be with you!  :)
[10:38] <georgeb> Zamber: spaceballs http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/quotes
[10:39] <Zamber> yah :P
[10:39] <Zamber> I'm used to the polish translation of this one ;P
[10:43] <RawSewage> question about multiple desktop:  I click another desktop, but I still see all the apps from all desktops in my Taskbar
[10:43] <RawSewage> How do I stop that
[10:43] <jonathan_> hey all can anybody help me with a problem im having
[10:43] <eilker> !cups
[10:43] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:44] <aleksante> "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[10:44] <LjL> RawSewage: right click taskbar, configure, "show windows from all desktops"
[10:44] <LjL> Ubotu, tell aleksante about build-essential | aleksante, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:44] <RawSewage> LjL, ty
[10:44] <Dannilion> Can anyone help me? NdisWrapper crashes my kubuntu, both versions 1.28 and 1.31 :( What could be causing it?
[10:44] <aleksanteri> ok thx
[10:44] <aleksanteri> !packages
[10:44] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[10:45] <jonathan_> im using the adept manager to install vmware player but i closed out of the windows while it was downloading and i didnt get a chance to configure it and it still has the manager locked how can i get it unlocked
[10:45] <jonathan_> any suggestions
[10:45] <aleksanteri> wov i found it with apt-cache
[10:46] <jonathan_> can anybody help me
[10:46] <_osh> !ask
[10:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:47] <jonathan_> im using the adept manager to install vmware player but i closed out of the windows while it was downloading and i didnt get a chance to configure it and it still has the manager locked how can i get it unlocked
[10:47] <jonathan_> also every time i log in something keeps locking the adept manager
[10:47] <zorglu_> !adept crash fix
[10:47] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:47] <zorglu_> jonathan_: try that
[10:48] <jonathan_> will do thanks guys
[10:48] <Dannilion> why does modprobing ndiswrapper cause my entire system to lock?
[10:48] <zorglu_> Dannilion: because there is a bug :)
[10:49] <jonathan_> thanks guys it worked
[10:49] <Dannilion> okay... how do I fix the bug to get my wireless card to work?
[10:49] <Dannilion> I don't want to have to downgrade to dapper, install ndiswrapper and then upgrade to edgy
[10:49] <jonathan_> dude
[10:50] <jonathan_> same thing happened to me
[10:50] <jonathan_> i gave up with ndiswrapper and got a pcimcia wifi card
[10:50] <Dannilion> Haven't got that option at the moment :(
[10:50] <jonathan_> i got lucky with my wifi card lol
[10:50] <Dannilion> it worked fine in a dapper/edgy upgrade, but this time I installed edgy from the DVD
[10:50] <jonathan_> its serves 2 purposes for me
[10:51] <jonathan_> i dunno im still a linux noob
[10:51] <Dannilion> I was asking zorglu_ how to fix the bug :)
[10:51] <^itch> hello guys
[10:51] <zorglu_> Dannilion: zorglu_ doesnt know :)
[10:52] <Dannilion> does it still exist in fiesty? :D
[10:52] <jonathan_> ill ttyl guys thanks for the help
[10:52] <BluesKaj> where's the kde equivalent for this: ?   Go to System->Preferences->Sessions, click the "Startup Programs" tab, click the "Add" button
[10:52] <^itch> Can somebody pls help me with a wireless network adaptor configuration? I can`t figure it out how to tell to the adaptor to use WAP2
[10:52] <sercik> i can't play rtsp://live.r101.it/redundant/r101.rm
[10:52] <judgen> how do i get deinterlaced to work in kopete?
[10:52] <sercik> someone could help me?
[10:53] <sercik> i have also real player installed
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Adept_update froze after an update :-(
[10:53] <DaSkreech> whois canllaith
[10:53] <jonathan_> 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:53] <jonathan_> try that command dask
[10:53] <jonathan_> it will finish installing the last pkg and then unlock adept
[10:53] <jonathan_> let me know if it works
[10:54] <DaSkreech> Well really I just wanted to know if anyone else had that happen :)
[10:54] <aseigo> BluesKaj: open konqi, under the Go menu select Autostart, right click -> new -> link to application
[10:55] <DaSkreech> jonathan_: I think it had installed them all. It froze where it should say quit
[10:55] <BluesKaj> ok thx, aseigo
[10:55] <jonathan_> interesting
[10:55] <jonathan_> trying doing a hard reboot
[10:55] <bXi> hah you win
[10:55] <bXi> vista made me go kubuntu permanent
[10:55] <jonathan_> lol
[10:55] <jonathan_> call me crazy i like vista
[10:55] <bXi> after 1 hour i was sick of it
[10:56] <DaSkreech> Best OS Microsoft has made
[10:56] <sercik> the best in win98se
[10:56] <cloakable> DaSkreech: talk about setting a low bar :P
[10:56] <jonathan_> lol
[10:56] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Go Menu?
[10:56] <DaSkreech> cloakable: Hey. I didn't set it
[10:56] <jonathan_> i have my login screen on here looking like the msft login screen on xp
[10:57] <bXi> after trying to install flash for firefox i couldnt start firefox no more
[10:57] <bXi> i couldnt use total commander normally
[10:57] <georgeb> !realplayer
[10:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:57] <bXi> couldnt write its configs to where it wanted because of "security"
[10:57] <jonathan_> that is interesting
[10:58] <aseigo> DaSkreech: in konqi there is a menu called 'Go'
[10:58] <jonathan_> i cant wait or it to come out except one thing that turns me off is the price
[10:58] <DaSkreech> aseigo: What's it beside?
[10:58] <jonathan_> lol honestly u need 1 gb to runn smoothly
[10:58] <BluesKaj> aseigo, Go menu ? where is that ...don't see one in konq
[10:59] <georgeb> !totem
[10:59] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:59] <_osh> !raid
[10:59] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:59] <aseigo> location, view, edit, go
[10:59] <jonathan_> anybody know of any websites with the best list of commands
[11:00] <^itch> Can somebody pls help me with a wireless network adaptor configuration? I can`t figure it out how to tell to the adaptor to use WAP2. Please help
[11:00] <stephen> hello?
[11:00] <jonathan_> anybody know how i can hit ok when a package has me read through an eula
[11:00] <jonathan_> stephen pm
[11:00] <jonathan_> me
[11:01] <georgeb> sercik: try the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods#head-02313c026706d5aca8b8b8f2a8a93e02727a1697
[11:01] <stephen> hello...
[11:01] <jonathan_> stephen go to internet on the k menu and on the bottom there should be a wireless lan utility
[11:01] <jonathan_> it should allow u to specify which connection u wanna usws
[11:02] <DaSkreech> jonathan_: Don't do it in adept
[11:03] <jonathan_> y not
[11:03] <jonathan_> what command line do i use
[11:03] <jonathan_> im a linux noob lol when it comes to commands
[11:04] <_osh> What's a good size for /boot? 100M?
[11:04] <jonathan_> dask what command line do i use to install vmwareplayer
[11:05] <zorglu_> jonathan_: ask you questions
[11:05] <zorglu_> _osh: there is no response to such question
[11:05] <mc__> _osh: yeah 100m is enoug,50m would long too
[11:05] <bXi> _osh: the gentoo default is 32mb
[11:05] <jonathan_> im trying to install vmwareplayer using adept manager but for some reaon i have to hit ok in an emulated shell
[11:05] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[11:05] <jonathan_> what button do i use to hit that
[11:05] <zorglu_> _osh: people got a lot of answers tho :)
[11:06] <zorglu_> jonathan_: install it without adept
[11:06] <jonathan_> u saying dowload it
[11:06] <zorglu_> jonathan_: what is the package name
[11:06] <_osh> I'm playing with raid/lvm and need something that will keep me out of trouble. Been a while since I had a look at a bzImage-kernel... :-/
[11:06] <jonathan_> vmwareplayer
[11:06] <zorglu_> jonathan_: ok type "sudo apt-get install vmwareplayer" in a terminal
[11:06] <_osh> 100M seems a bit overkill but it's not much out of a 250GB drive.
[11:07] <jonathan_> already tried that
[11:07] <jonathan_> it cant find the package
[11:07] <_osh> Thanks for your opinions.
[11:07] <zorglu_> !tab | jonathan_
[11:07] <ubotu> jonathan_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:07] <zorglu_> jonathan_: then find the name of the package
[11:07] <jonathan_> i also have vmware server and i dont know how to install the rpm
[11:07] <georgeb> vmware-player
[11:07] <zorglu_> jonathan_: it is given in adept
[11:07] <jonathan_> got it
[11:07] <jonathan_> ty
[11:07] <zorglu_> jonathan_: ok type "sudo apt-get install vmware-player" in a terminal
[11:07] <jonathan_> that is the player not the server version though
[11:08] <jonathan_> im lost i tried searching in adept but vmware server didnt come up
[11:08] <zorglu_> jonathan_: put the nick of the personn you talk to at the begining of the sentence, this make the conversation much easier to follow
[11:08] <georgeb> jonathan_: well.. you asked for vmware player :); try the command from zorglu_ for vmware player
[11:08] <jonathan_> zorglu: that is the player not the server version though
[11:09] <zorglu_> jonathan_: as georgeb said :)
[11:09] <zorglu_> !tab | jonathan_
[11:09] <georgeb> jonathan_: for vmware server, go in the folder where you dowloaded it and run rpm -ivh [file name here] 
[11:09] <ubotu> jonathan_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:09] <vontux> does anyone in here have experience purchasing external hd enclosures that are ubuntu compatiable out of the box?
[11:09] <jonathan_> i am
[11:09] <zorglu_> vontux: what do you mean by 'enclosures' in external hd enclosures
[11:10] <jonathan_> ill brb need to restart my machine
[11:10] <vontux> zorglu_: yes
[11:10] <georgeb> jonathan_: after that, go in a console and type vmware[tab] [tab]  to see a list of all vmware* commands you have to run; for the server you'll have to run vmware-config.pl or something
[11:10] <zorglu_> vontux: ? by enclosures, you mean 'yes' ? :)
[11:10] <vontux> zorglu_: yes, hd external usb 2.0 enclosures
[11:11] <zorglu_> vontux: ok ok :) what is a 'enclosures' here ?
[11:11] <vontux> zorglu_: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=cat3&product_code=316123&Pn=2_5_inch_USB_2_0_External_Hard_Drive_Enclosure
[11:11] <vontux> that is an example of one
[11:12] <zorglu_> lookin
[11:12] <max_> anyone know if there are going to be any major diffrences in Fiesty Fawn?
[11:12] <zorglu_> vontux: this is a plain hard drive, no ?
[11:12] <kkathman> max_ depends on your definition of "major"
[11:13] <vontux> zorglu_: it allows you to put a normally internal hard drive into it and use it externally
[11:13] <zorglu_> vontux: ah ok, i got it :)
[11:13] <max_> anything at all?
[11:13] <zorglu_> vontux: ok usb disk obey to a standard and are fully supported by ubuntu
[11:14] <zorglu_> vontux: i got 2 usb drives. the 'enclosure' part is irrelevant for the os/ubuntu
[11:14] <vontux> zorglu_: ok, well I know that, but I have another enclosure that is not linux compatible
[11:14] <vontux> zorglu_: the one I currently own only works in windows
[11:14] <_osh> I enjoy the new boot. The symlinked unintuitive thing that is there now is easy but naming which services depend on each other is a much sweeter way of doing it. Imho.
[11:15] <zorglu_> vontux: you have a usb disk which is not compatible with linux ?
[11:15] <_osh> In Feisty that is...
[11:15] <zorglu_> vontux: ah ok well you are the first one i hear having problem reading usb drive
[11:15] <eilker> sudo  /etc/init.d/cups status  // how can i see cups status ??
[11:15] <vontux> zorglu_: correct, an enclosure
[11:15] <zorglu_> vontux: the enclosure part is not relevant here :) only the protocol exported via usb
[11:16] <vontux> zorglu_: then why do I have an enclosure that only works in windows?
[11:16] <zorglu_> vontux: that i dont know. the only thing i can say is that you are the first one i hear about
[11:16] <Rob-West> can someone help me change my clock so it doesnt display military time
[11:17] <zorglu_> !clock
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <_osh> !time
[11:17] <zorglu_> hmm im sure the bot know about this
[11:17] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[11:17] <vontux> zorglu_: ok, well one more question, if a piece of hardware is mac os x compatible is it more likely than not linux compatible?
[11:17] <Rob-West> http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/6348/snapshot1xa5.png
[11:18] <Rob-West> the time is showing 17:17pm i want it to say 5:17pm
[11:18] <jonathan_> how do i install rpms
[11:18] <vontux> jonathan: you'd have to convert them to .deb files
[11:18] <jonathan_> how do i do that
[11:18] <zorglu_> vontux: no definitive answer to that. it is more 'if it is a common pc hardware, it is more likely to be linux compatible'
[11:18] <jonathan_> or is there a program to do that
[11:19] <vontux> let me google for the converter one moment jonathan....
[11:19] <Rob-West> alien -d file.rom
[11:19] <jonathan_> thanks
[11:19] <_osh> Rob-West: What's this am/pm stuff. The clock goes from 00:00 to 23:59. Easy as that. :-)
[11:19] <Rob-West> rpm*
[11:19] <LjL> Rob-West: right click on the clock, "Time and date format", "Times and dates", "Time format"
[11:19] <LjL> _osh: it can go to 23:60 sometimes
[11:20] <georgeb> jonathan_: after that, go in a console and type vmware[tab] [tab]  to see a list of all vmware* commands you have to run; for the server you'll have to run vmware-config.pl or something
[11:20] <_osh> LjL: How? Leap-seconds?
[11:20] <vontux> jonathan_: http://www.debianadmin.com/install-rpm-files-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html
[11:20] <LjL> _osh: yeah
[11:21] <_osh> LjL: That's got to be quite rare. Rare enough that most people can just count it out.
[11:21] <LjL> _osh: not so much that the relevant manpage doesn't mention it. "%S     second (00..60)", from "man date"
[11:22] <jonathan_> ty vontux
[11:22] <eilker> hi, Unable to connect to CUPS server localhost
[11:22] <eilker> i have this after samba install
[11:22] <georgeb> jonathan_: for vmware server, go in the folder where you dowloaded it and run rpm -ivh [file name here] 
[11:22] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[11:22] <jonathan_> does that install it or convert it
[11:22] <eilker> what packages do i need for cups ??
[11:22] <georgeb> jonathan_: the order of the above two lines should be reversed :) I sent them earlier, but you already left
[11:22] <georgeb> jonathan_: installs
[11:23] <eilker>  /etc/init.d/cups: command not found
[11:23] <jonathan_> ok
[11:23] <jonathan_> its saying its a directory
[11:23] <_osh> !cupsys
[11:23] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:23] <judgen> How do i get pal in kopete cam
[11:24] <jonathan_> can i send ya a private message georgeb
[11:24] <jonathan_> judgen just download gaim
[11:24] <eilker> _osh : i know that pages
[11:24] <Dan_Edin> How do i set cam standard to pal in kopete
[11:26] <apollo2011> I installed Kubuntu on my friends system a week ago and once time when it shutdown, it would freeze until we pulled the plug on it. Apparently, that happened again and afterward, it wouldn't boot. i have now been trying to find out what is wrong with the partition, and i get an error with cfdisk, stating "FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6 [part6 being the '/' partition] : enlarged logical paritions overlap" Can and how do I fix
[11:26] <apollo2011> the partition? I can't mount it from the live cd (live cd essentially freezzes), and parted and qtparted don't seem to have any problems, although qtparted freezes when it begins gathering info on partition 6.
[11:27] <elt0n_afk> hi how can i count the lines written to stdout?
[11:27] <elt0n_afk> i thought there is a tool called count
[11:27] <elt0n_afk> but i doesnt exist
[11:28] <zorglu_> apollo2011: hmm it looks like your disks are in bad shape
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> apollo2011: you could try the gparted livecd, also use badblocks on it
[11:28] <zorglu_> apollo2011: if the partition in itself was wrong you would have the error every time, not just once in a while
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> apollo2011: not sure if you can recover from a stuffed partition table, which sounds like what you have
[11:29] <_osh> elt0n_afk: wc -l
[11:29] <zorglu_> apollo2011: you can follow TheGateKeeper advice but be aware that once a disk start to go wrong, it will go worst and worst
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> very true
[11:30] <jonathan_> i agree
[11:30] <jonathan_> how old is the drive apollo
[11:30] <zorglu_> apollo2011: aka if you think this, you should think to change it soon :)
[11:30] <apollo2011> well I repartitioned the drive to put Linux on it, now I haven't been able to boot the system or mount the partition at all
[11:30] <zorglu_> apollo2011: but sometime is works, no ?
[11:31] <zorglu_> apollo2011: you said 'sometime it fails, sometime it works' correct ?
[11:31] <apollo2011> no
[11:31] <apollo2011> sometimes it crashed on shutdown
[11:31] <apollo2011> but since the first time it wouldn't boot, it hasn't booted or mounted
[11:31] <Black5un> anyone have a link to a good vnc for kubuntu?
[11:31] <zorglu_> ok im lost, leaving others handling the matter :)
[11:32] <Zerb_Riss> does anyone know how to make the kicker ACCURATELY transparent?
[11:33] <_osh> Black5un: TightVNC always worked for me.
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> apollo2011: backup what you need to, trash all the partitions with gparted (livecd), recreate, run badblocks is what I would do
[11:33] <eddie> hi
[11:33] <Black5un> roger on the tight
[11:33] <eddie> I am trying to use k3b and can't burn mp3
[11:33] <eddie> what the heck?
[11:34] <eddie> I and gnomebaker does it
[11:34] <eddie> i want one program to do all
[11:34] <DaSkreech> LjL: 23:60 ?
[11:34] <eddie> I do new audio project
[11:34] <LjL> DaSkreech: yeah, on leap seconds. i'm not sure it's a standard/international/whatever format, but it's the format Linux uses anyway
[11:35] <eddie> what the heck mp3 UNSUPORTED FORMAT!!
[11:35] <eddie> why not
[11:35] <DaSkreech> apollo2011: Look into diskkeeper
[11:35] <eddie> I click on AudioCD
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> eddie: 1 min
[11:35] <eddie> thanks
[11:35] <_osh> eddie: Thank the damn americans and their fscked up software patents for that. :-/
[11:36] <eddie> but this open source
[11:36] <_osh> eddie: Yes, but mp3 isn't.
[11:36] <zorglu_> !codec | eddie
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <zorglu_> !codecs | eddie
[11:36] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | eddie
[11:36] <ubotu> eddie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> eddie: look at the top of my page: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[11:37] <_osh> Very annoying. And us europeans have to worry about it too soon since the pro-patent lobby is working damn hard...
[11:37] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Did You get your answer?
[11:38] <eddie> but why GnomeBaker DOES burn and recognize them?
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> eddie: probable got what is necessary already installed
[11:39] <DaSkreech> eddie: They are data files?
[11:39] <_osh> What's the command to reset a terminal after it's been all gobbled (trying to read a binary file). It's not "reset" as I thought it was.
[11:39] <zorglu_> _osh: type "reset"
[11:39] <gnomefreak> _osh: ctrl+c
[11:40] <zorglu_> it is "reset" :)
[11:40] <DaSkreech> clear
[11:40] <DaSkreech>  :-)
[11:40] <_osh> reset doesn't work in "ash" it seems.
[11:40] <gnomefreak> click the X?
[11:40] <cloakable> :)
[11:40] <DaSkreech> *chrages defib*
[11:40] <eddie> ahh.. ok I was missing a codec
[11:40] <eddie> hopefully it'll work afterwards
[11:40] <_osh> This is the terminal during install.
[11:40] <DaSkreech> Thought we just said that
[11:40] <BluesKaj> well DaSkreech , i'm at a loss where "Go" is in kcontrol...
[11:41] <apollo2011> TheGateKeeper: I wouldn't mind trashing it but my frriend has some files he needs on that partition, which I haven't been able to mount even on a live cd
[11:41] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: In konqui I think you can go to Settings -> Configure toolbars?
[11:41] <faLUCE> Hi, I can't find the conf file where it's set the default window manager...any idea?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> _osh: you should never have to use a terminal during install
[11:41] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What was the question?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> _osh: iirc that is a different monster all together
[11:42] <casev01> hi
[11:42] <_osh> gnomefreak: I don't really but it would have been nice to be able to have a look at /proc/mdstat since it's rebuilding my raid and I'm tired of waiting... =)
[11:42] <gnomefreak> _osh: what key combo brought you there?
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> apollo2011: well if there is NO way to get to them, they are toast anyway
[11:42] <casev01> how can i resize the active partition with qtparted? i need to make a new partition
[11:42] <BluesKaj> changing sessions in order to facilitate XGL in beryl in the login page
[11:43] <_osh> gnomefreak: ctrl-alt-f2 from the alternative-install-cd.
[11:43] <LjL> casev01: use a live cd
[11:43] <LjL> if by "active" you mean "mounted"
[11:43] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, changing sessions in order to facilitate XGL in beryl in the login page
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ctrl+alt+f7 or f8 dont bring you back?
[11:43] <eddie> how may i check if I have a certain package?
[11:43] <casev01> yes
[11:43] <casev01> ok
[11:43] <casev01> thanks
[11:43] <LjL> Ubotu, tell casev01 about gparted | casev01, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:43] <gnomefreak> eddie: apt-cache policy packagename
[11:43] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11190.msg45453#msg45453
[11:43] <LjL> or you can just use the Ubuntu CD
[11:43] <eddie> I need to check if I have m$$ codecs
[11:43] <gnomefreak> eddie: didyou install them?
[11:44] <eddie> polixy?
[11:44] <eddie> policy?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> yes policy
[11:44] <_osh> gnomefreak: ctrl-alt-f1 brings me back to the text-install that I use. So I don't have a problem other that I would like to have a look at /proc/mdstat.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> eddie: if you didnt install them you dont have them. they are not in repos at all
[11:44] <eddie> that's what I am trying to check
[11:44] <casev01> thanks!
[11:44] <casev01> see ya
[11:44] <weswh-> is firefox2 the default or is it in backports?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> eddie: apt-cache policy w32codecs
[11:45] <eddie> ok yeah i think i am fine
[11:45] <eddie> thanks
[11:45] <gnomefreak> weswh-: default in edgy should not be backported at all to dapper
[11:45] <apollo2011> TheGateKeeper: I ran gparted and resized the partition 1MB, which forced it to run a check for errors, and that seems to have made the partiton mountable, so it should boot now
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> eddie: there is also info on w32codecs on that url I gave you
[11:46] <weswh-> cool, i'm on edgy
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> apollo2011: nice one, backup what is needed, then run badblocks
[11:46] <apollo2011> ok
[11:46] <weswh-> gnomefreak: do the firefox 'internal' updates work? or should it always be updated through apt-get?
[11:46] <jason> hi there. im trying to rearrange my k menu. i accidentally stuck the network folder in the graphics one. so i pulled it out and saved it.... but nothing happened!? every time i close the kde menu editor and reopen it, a new folder called Internet-2 (or 3, or 4) appears.
[11:46] <gnomefreak> weswh-: you should only update it with apt unless you installed a non ubuntu package of firefox
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> apollo2011: if it's shit, then replace it, in any event a close eye needs to be kept on it
[11:47] <Zerb_Riss> does anyone know how to make the kicker ACCURATELY transparent?
[11:47] <jason> how can i edit the menu more manually than the editor, which doesnt seem to do anything.
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> apollo2011: do NOT rely on it!
[11:47] <jason> Zerb_Riss: completely transparent, do you mean?
[11:48] <Zerb_Riss> I just want to be able to "see through it" when it unhides, not just see some color that resembles the background
[11:48] <weswh-> gnomefreak: yeah, i am getting it through apt. just meant moving forward
[11:49] <jason> i think the kicker only works by fake transparency at the moment, evidenced by when you try to drag windows under it
[11:49] <gnomefreak> weswh-: any updates have to be done with apt now
[11:49] <Zerb_Riss> :(
[11:49] <mc__> jason: nope it works with true transparency
[11:49] <jason> does it?
[11:49] <Zerb_Riss> I cna't get real transparency to work
[11:49] <jason> well then id like to know how to make that work too ^^
[11:50] <jason> as far as ive seen, its just the same fake transparency method as the Crystal window decoration =\
[11:50] <zorglu_> kicker = task bar ?
[11:50] <Zerb_Riss> and the transparent Konsole :(
[11:50] <mc__> zorglu_: exactly
[11:50] <jason> yes zorglu_
[11:51] <zorglu_> jason: Zerb_Riss: there are other apps for that, kdocker i think is one
[11:51] <mc__> jason: if you want to use realy transparency you've got 2 ways to do so
[11:51] <jason> ok mc
[11:51] <zorglu_> about the transparent konsole, i think you need xgl kinda stuff to get it transparent
[11:51] <mc__> jason: you can use aiglx/xgl and set the transparency with transset
[11:52] <mc__> jason: or you can go to Configure Window Behaviour
[11:52] <mc__> jason: Transluency
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> right who is killing the repos !
[11:52] <mc__> jason: [X] use translucency/shadows
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i killed the repos
[11:52] <Zerb_Riss> it's still fake transparency though
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> they were talking smack
[11:52] <Zerb_Riss> it's just based on what's on the background, not what is actually behind
[11:53] <Zerb_Riss> so Beryl is the only way to do decent transparency?
[11:53] <jason> beryl or compiz
[11:53] <jason> either way
[11:53] <jason> but kicker will still be kicker
[11:53] <mc__> there is the x composite extension
[11:53] <mc__> but that is much slower
[11:53] <Zerb_Riss> well yah I might as well use Beryl in that case
[11:54] <mc__> jason: i told you how to make kicker really trasparent without aiglx
[11:54] <Zerb_Riss> I just hate that there aren't any really good KDE skins for Emerald
[11:54] <Zerb_Riss> mc, it's not real ly transparent
[11:54] <mc__> s/aiglx/"compiz/beryl"
[11:54] <Zerb_Riss> beryl works for now
[11:54] <mc__> Zerb_Riss: it is
[11:54] <Zerb_Riss> but it's buggy
[11:54] <betelgeuze_> Zerb_Riss: I'm sitting in a nice one just now :)
[11:54] <jason> Zerb_Riss: use aquamarine if you like. it uses the kde window decorations. its buggy as hell.
[11:54] <jason> mc__: sorry i missed it.
[11:54] <Zerb_Riss> betelgeuze_: nice what?
[11:55] <betelgeuze_> Zerb_Riss: beryl skin in KDE
[11:55] <mc__> jason: go to Configure window behaviour
[11:55] <jason> no i read up
[11:55] <Zerb_Riss> yah but there isn't a Crystal SVG skin for Beryl
[11:55] <mc__> jason:alright
[11:55] <betelgeuze_> Zerb_Riss: that's true
[11:55] <Zerb_Riss> Configure Window Behaviour just uses the background for transparency
[11:55] <Zerb_Riss> that's not real transparency
[11:55] <jason> so anyway yes, i did what you told me, i still dont see a properly translucent kicker
[11:56] <jason> its just taking a snapshot of the background and working with that
[11:56] <jonathan_> ahhhhh this is frustraiting
[11:56] <mc__> jason: but it works for me
[11:56] <jason> like i said, fake transparency
[11:56] <jason> well you must have a cool computer
[11:56] <jason> lol
[11:56] <Zerb_Riss> it's just the background
[11:56] <mc__> jason: for me its real transparency,when i move a window behind kicker i see it
[11:56] <Zerb_Riss> I like to hide my kicker, I want to be able to see the windows behind while it's active
[11:56] <BluesKaj> eye candy ...... bah humbug !  :)
[11:56] <Zerb_Riss> mc__: with Beryl?
[11:56] <mc__> Zerb_Riss: nope
[11:57] <BluesKaj> I've had enuff
[11:57] <jason> doesnt the kicker usually move the windows up when it unhides? does for me
[11:57] <Zerb_Riss> I go... Right click->Configure Panel->Appearance->Enable transparency
[11:57] <Zerb_Riss> then it turns it some fugly blue color that resembles the background image I'm using
[11:57] <Zerb_Riss> and that's it
[11:57] <jason> ya
[11:58] <mc__> that was not what i told you to do
[11:58] <mc__> right click on the title bar of a window
[11:58] <mc__> Configure
[11:58] <mc__> window behaviour
[11:58] <mc__> then TRansluency
[11:58] <mc__> check "Use transluency/shadows"
[11:59] <zorglu_> mc__: i just tried and got a nice warning 'may crash randomly' :)
[11:59] <jason> if have that set on myself right now
[11:59] <jason> that message ALWAYS appears no matter what
[11:59] <Zerb_Riss> I don't think the KDE stuff works on an Intel Integrated crap video card
[11:59] <mc__> zorglu_: it runs smooth here
[12:00] <zorglu_> mc__: yep, im running dapper, so my version is likely old :)
[12:00] <zorglu_> Zerb_Riss: nothing is good, hey :)
[12:00] <mc__> its 00:00 here,spooky
[12:00] <jason> no it says that in edgy too lol
[12:00] <mc__> im on feisty :)
[12:00] <jason> how is feisty
[12:00] <Zerb_Riss> is it KDE 3.5.5?
[12:00] <jason> yep
[12:01] <mc__> jason: its quite nice,had now bugs yet
[12:01] <jason> oh wonderful. clean install of herd 1 or upgrade from edgy?
[12:01] <intelikey> who is ssh wise here ?           how can i use a passwordless account ?
[12:01] <mc__> not a single broken package,nothing
[12:01] <mc__> jason: upgrade
[12:01] <jason> cool
[12:02] <zorglu_> mc__: have they fixed the huge memory leak when running a java/gtk code ? (eclipse or azureus)
[12:02] <mc__> zorglu_: dunno
[12:02] <zorglu_> mc__: ok
[12:02] <Zerb_Riss> what's the advantage of getting Feisty right now?
[12:02] <mc__> zorglu_: but sadly eclipse is still broken
[12:02] <mc__> Zerb_Riss: you can help finding bugs
[12:02] <zorglu_> mc__: ok
[12:02] <mc__> Zerb_Riss: and you get more up to date software
[12:03] <zorglu_> intelikey: google for 'ssh rsa key'
[12:03] <mc__> Zerb_Riss: there also about 700new packages
[12:03] <jason> and when the new artwork comes out, you can be the first to say "i hate it!" and theyll revert it back to edgy's ^^
[12:03] <intelikey> more up to date.....  hehhe   the old if it's more than ten minutes old it's too old.  mind set.
[12:03] <Zerb_Riss> this transparency thing is annoying
[12:03] <Zerb_Riss> I'm tempted to try going to Gnome to see if it's transparency stuff will work
[12:04] <intelikey> zorglu_ no a passwordless account  not logging in without a password.
[12:04] <zorglu_> Zerb_Riss: go ahead
[12:04] <mc__> Zerb_Riss: no! dont join the dark side!
[12:04] <Zerb_Riss> I hate Gnome, but I just can't make KDE look like I want it to
[12:04] <zorglu_> intelikey: you missed something, i use this feature everyday
[12:04] <_lukasz_> hehe
[12:04] <jason> i didnt know gnome supported transparency and such. i thought it was boring. shows how long its been aye. lol.
[12:04] <zorglu_> intelikey: like the file perm of the file containing the keys
[12:05] <jason> now can i ask, where do all the kmenu items and such go??
[12:05] <intelikey> zorglu_ so you have accounts that you can login with just your name ?
[12:05] <intelikey> that are passwd -d   ?
[12:05] <zorglu_> intelikey: yep, i do 'ssh myotherbox' and i got immediatly a shell on the otherbox
[12:06] <zorglu_> passwd -d ?
[12:06] <intelikey> no local login on motherbox    without a password ?
[12:06] <zorglu_> oh like actually no password in the /etc/passwod
[12:06] <intelikey> yes passwd -d
[12:06] <intelikey> exactly
[12:06] <zorglu_> nope i never tried this
[12:07] <zorglu_> intelikey: so you got rsa key working with a password and it start to fails once you delete the passwd ?
[12:07] <eilker> !ssl
[12:07] <intelikey> zorglu_ haven't setup a key yet cause i can't login via ssh
[12:08] <intelikey> zorglu_ i'll play with it some more...
[12:08] <zorglu_> intelikey: ok
[12:09] <zorglu_> intelikey: if i were you, i would 1. setup a passwd 2. setup a rsa key which works ok 3. try to delete the passwd
[12:09] <intelikey> zorglu_ yeah looking into that now.  i'll let ya know how it foes.
[12:09] <intelikey> goes
[12:12] <jonathan_> hey all i converted the rpm and all but now im not getting the console to work lol
[12:12] <jonathan_> right now i have alien converting it and installing at the moment
[12:14] <jonathan_> its dead in here all of a sudden
[12:14] <jason> lol
[12:14] <jason> im here, but i dont know what youre talking about probably because i wasnt here, so apart from this sentence, im mute ^^
[12:15] <alfonso> ciao
[12:15] <jonathan_> lol
[12:16] <jonathan_> hey all i converted the rpm for vmware server using alien and all but now im not getting the console to work lol
[12:16] <eilker> intelikey : hi,  is it normal to have /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory  in kde ?