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elkbuntu | Burgundavia, do you want to try do those feisty changes i didnt do (for lack of finding changelogs)? | 02:03 |
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Burgundavia | yep, will do | 02:04 |
Burgundavia | eating dinner | 02:04 |
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Burgundavia | hey somerville32 | 04:53 |
Burgundavia | elkbuntu: you around to help spell check? | 04:54 |
somerville32 | Burgundavia, Hi :) | 04:54 |
elkbuntu | Burgundavia, yep, soon | 04:54 |
Burgundavia | excellent | 04:54 |
Burgundavia | lets get this beast out | 04:54 |
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somerville32 | My new best friend is /exec in xhcat <g> | 04:59 |
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elkbuntu | Burgundavia, see gobby | 05:24 |
elkbuntu | meh, you beat me to it | 05:24 |
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Burgundavia | let talks about next weeks | 05:35 |
somerville32 | k | 05:35 |
Burgundavia | elkbuntu: ? | 05:35 |
tonyyarusso | s/let talks/let's talk/ | 05:35 |
tonyyarusso | s/weeks/week's/ | 05:36 |
Burgundavia | right | 05:36 |
Burgundavia | wrong | 05:36 |
tonyyarusso | Mmm, maybe. Pretty sure though. | 05:36 |
Burgundavia | some of this week was slowed down by some of my stuff | 05:36 |
Burgundavia | would it be worth editing the template to add notes on how to edit each section, so that people can just jump in? | 05:37 |
tonyyarusso | I'd think so. | 05:37 |
tonyyarusso | (I will likely continue to be useless for the next one, but can do the next two after that hopefully) | 05:37 |
Burgundavia | I probably should also dump the feisty changes stuff on the wiki each night or so | 05:37 |
tonyyarusso | The easier we make entry, the more peope we can pull in. | 05:38 |
Burgundavia | leaving it in gobby: mistake or not? | 05:38 |
somerville32 | Burgundavia: The fridge has been pretty slow lately. We should pimp UWN there. <g> | 05:38 |
Burgundavia | we do | 05:38 |
Burgundavia | I will write something | 05:38 |
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somerville32 | I don't think UWN 23 got announced | 05:39 |
tonyyarusso | Frankly, I like the idea of having the in-progress one in Gobby start-to-finish, but that's just me. | 05:39 |
Burgundavia | hmm, it might not have | 05:39 |
Burgundavia | elkbuntu: ? | 05:39 |
elkbuntu | Burgundavia, lemme read up | 05:39 |
somerville32 | The thing I like about having it in the wiki is that I can work on it anywhere there is a web connection | 05:39 |
Burgundavia | yes, that is nice | 05:39 |
somerville32 | ie. no need to install gobby | 05:39 |
Burgundavia | I wish the wiki did collaborative editing | 05:40 |
elkbuntu | um, yeah, wiki is nice, it's only the final sprint we need gobby for | 05:40 |
elkbuntu | tbh | 05:40 |
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tonyyarusso | Having it in Gobby would be my own little utopia, practically speaking, yeah, it makes more sense on the wiki. | 05:40 |
Burgundavia | SynchroEdit works for Firefox 1.0-2.0 (and other Mozilla-class browsers such as Camino and Flock). It supports rich-text documents. SynchroEdit relies on W3C DOM Event change extensions which IE and other browsers do not yet support. Open-source (MPL and GPL). Java server-side and JavaScript client. The protocol is open and documented in the SynchroEdit Development Wiki. A proof-of-concept version of SynchroEdit demonstra | 05:41 |
Burgundavia | ting integration with MediaWiki is available as patches, but is intended to eventually be a plugin or extension to MediaWiki proper. | 05:41 |
elkbuntu | Burgundavia, it'd be nice for the SA Parliament thing to get a fridge showing, seperate from the UWN, if you could arrange that? | 05:41 |
tonyyarusso | Interesting concept | 05:41 |
Burgundavia | sure | 05:42 |
somerville32 | What about a new team of the week section? | 05:43 |
elkbuntu | somerville32, there's an extent to how many sections we can pack in | 05:43 |
tonyyarusso | That could be cool, although I doubt we'll have on every time. | 05:43 |
Burgundavia | ... of the week haven't work well, unless we get somebody to write it | 05:43 |
Burgundavia | if we move to "beats", that woudl work | 05:43 |
somerville32 | ie. We could promote teams like ubuntu-qa, ubuntu-bugs, ubuntu-dev, xubuntu-team, telepathy, etc. and get people educated about their purpose, how to get involved, etc. | 05:44 |
elkbuntu | and i suspect, or i hope, that with the debaday thing being revived, we'll be able to source stuff from that | 05:44 |
tonyyarusso | On a different tack, rather than being a hilight of existing things, are new teams even announced anywhere right now? | 05:44 |
Burgundavia | not really | 05:44 |
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somerville32 | I don't mind writing a team of the week thing | 05:45 |
tonyyarusso | Maybe we could do that much, a once-a-month roundup of new ones that have started perhaps. | 05:45 |
elkbuntu | tonyyarusso, we've started with the LoCos, but there's no problem adding team announcements to the community news section | 05:45 |
tonyyarusso | elkbuntu: Righto | 05:45 |
tonyyarusso | We'd probably get some hugs from jono too | 05:46 |
elkbuntu | in fact, i personally encourage it | 05:46 |
elkbuntu | tonyyarusso, indeed | 05:46 |
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somerville32 | Hmmm | 05:46 |
elkbuntu | eep, i made my leg bleed and it wont stop... stupid ingrown hair | 05:46 |
Burgundavia | right now our challenge is scaling, not content | 05:46 |
elkbuntu | Burgundavia, yeah | 05:47 |
tonyyarusso | elkbuntu: ingrown...hair? | 05:47 |
Burgundavia | we need to figure out how to release on time each week | 05:47 |
tonyyarusso | True. | 05:47 |
tonyyarusso | More people would help that, hence my support of "make this really easy" instructions in the template | 05:47 |
elkbuntu | yep | 05:47 |
Burgundavia | should we also move to "beats"? | 05:47 |
tonyyarusso | Also, I get the feeling there are a lot of people that would be willing to help that just don't know we're here. | 05:48 |
tonyyarusso | "beats"? | 05:48 |
elkbuntu | Burgundavia, i think so | 05:48 |
elkbuntu | tonyyarusso, focus areas | 05:48 |
tonyyarusso | elkbuntu: Ah, as in Burgundavia does Feisty changes, etc. | 05:48 |
tonyyarusso | ? | 05:48 |
somerville32 | UWN 24 was ready to be released EXCEPT for the stuff that currently requires Burgundavia | 05:48 |
lotusleaf | Burgundavia: enforcable deadlines with each person having an understudy [fallback person, whatever] notified ASAP if the person assigned to said task won't be able to finish it prior to deadline? | 05:48 |
elkbuntu | ie, me do locos, cody do community news, corey.. yeah | 05:48 |
tonyyarusso | Makes sense. | 05:48 |
Burgundavia | somerville32: yep, stuff that required me this week fell down | 05:48 |
elkbuntu | somerville32, because he tries to do too much. beats would sort of help stop him : | 05:49 |
Burgundavia | bottlenecking on anybody is bad, except for the final sending | 05:49 |
tonyyarusso | I'm good at spellchecking and finding press stuff usually (imo anyway) | 05:50 |
somerville32 | Maybe we should have a policy that articles get deferred automatically if they aren't ready on time? | 05:50 |
elkbuntu | i think this is a perfect excuse to discuss a meeting time | 05:50 |
Burgundavia | sure, but we shoudl define "core" and "secondary" articles | 05:50 |
somerville32 | Good idea | 05:51 |
Burgundavia | why don't we pull the template into gobby and work on it? | 05:51 |
tonyyarusso | elkbuntu: true | 05:51 |
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somerville32 | As for a meeting, I think we're the only ones that regularly contribute so I guess this IS a meeting <g> | 05:52 |
elkbuntu | somerville32, not a full one | 05:52 |
elkbuntu | and there was no prior warning for peopel to work around | 05:52 |
tonyyarusso | If we have a meeting, it would be useful to have two parts: How to get involved; and the more in-depth. Publicize as widely as possible, and get new folks to the first half, and if they want to jump in right away they can stick around for the second. | 05:52 |
Burgundavia | this is a brainstorm, not a meeting | 05:52 |
Burgundavia | ok, template up | 05:53 |
tonyyarusso | It would be very very useful to have a meeting that intends to include more people than those who already do work. | 05:53 |
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tonyyarusso | Oh boo | 05:53 |
tonyyarusso | No server IP in the topic - always gotta grab it from the wiki. | 05:54 |
Burgundavia | absolutely | 05:54 |
Burgundavia | elkbuntu: who controls the dns for devbuntu.org? | 05:54 |
elkbuntu | Burgundavia, MitchM_ | 05:54 |
Burgundavia | we should point gobby.devubuntu.org at something stable | 05:55 |
elkbuntu | we could ask him if he can set up a gobby on it | 05:55 |
Burgundavia | that woudl work | 05:56 |
Burgundavia | poningrus occasionally changes, his IP, rather | 05:56 |
elkbuntu | yep | 05:57 |
Burgundavia | ok, start volunteering for jobs | 05:59 |
tonyyarusso | Meaning throw your name next to something that looks good for you? | 06:03 |
Burgundavia | yep, choose what you want to do | 06:03 |
somerville32 | Gah | 06:05 |
somerville32 | I was busy working on adding comments and what not while you guys scooped up all the jobs :P | 06:06 |
Burgundavia | heh | 06:06 |
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Burgundavia | somerville32: don't just list the format as "see last UWN" | 06:14 |
Burgundavia | list what it is | 06:14 |
tonyyarusso | Yeah, I was just going to go looking for some of those | 06:14 |
Burgundavia | good | 06:15 |
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Burgundavia | ok, copying the beats section to the editing policies page | 06:19 |
Burgundavia | somerville32, elkbuntu: editing the template? | 06:22 |
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somerville32 | Heavily | 06:22 |
Burgundavia | somebody want to write up a short summary of this discussion and get it on the -marketing team? | 06:22 |
somerville32 | The ml? | 06:22 |
Burgundavia | yes | 06:23 |
Burgundavia | I am going to release 24 | 06:23 |
somerville32 | Sure. | 06:23 |
somerville32 | One sec | 06:23 |
somerville32 | I found something that needs fixing | 06:23 |
Burgundavia | ok | 06:23 |
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poningru | wtf | 06:24 |
poningru | grr | 06:24 |
poningru | stupid xchat | 06:24 |
somerville32 | !wtf | 06:24 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about wtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:24 |
somerville32 | :D | 06:25 |
poningru | rofl | 06:26 |
poningru | somerville32: btw gl with membership on tuesday | 06:26 |
somerville32 | Thanks! :) | 06:26 |
somerville32 | Burgundavia, done | 06:26 |
Burgundavia | can you copy it back | 06:26 |
Burgundavia | I am trying to remember the bleedin -new moderator password | 06:27 |
somerville32 | I edited the wiki directly | 06:27 |
Burgundavia | ah, ok | 06:28 |
Burgundavia | poningru: greetings | 06:28 |
Burgundavia | can you cleanup your server? | 06:28 |
Burgundavia | everything but the template | 06:28 |
poningru | yep | 06:28 |
Burgundavia | oh, waiting, leave the "lookingforwardatfeisty" doc as well | 06:28 |
poningru | k | 06:28 |
poningru | wait what about the fr stuff? | 06:28 |
poningru | Burgundavia^^ | 06:29 |
Burgundavia | leave the non-english stuff | 06:30 |
rjian | hello guys seems all ur busy.. :) | 06:32 |
somerville32 | Oh no! | 06:34 |
tonyyarusso | somerville32: ? | 06:34 |
somerville32 | "Can not assign requested address" | 06:34 |
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somerville32 | and can't reconnect | 06:35 |
tonyyarusso | somerville32: same here | 06:36 |
tonyyarusso | poningru: ? ^^ | 06:36 |
somerville32 | I hope the changes aren't lost | 06:36 |
poningru | uh thats cause | 06:36 |
poningru | wtf | 06:36 |
poningru | yeah I am shutting stuff down | 06:36 |
poningru | :( | 06:36 |
poningru | hold on I can bring it back up | 06:36 |
poningru | sorry | 06:36 |
somerville32 | I can host on an AMD dual core if need be, haha <g> | 06:36 |
poningru | should have warned you guys | 06:37 |
Burgundavia | just don't lose our stuff | 06:37 |
poningru | somerville32: it was from Burgundavia's request | 06:37 |
poningru | how about this I will bring stuff backup and then finish up what you guys were doing | 06:37 |
somerville32 | I saved a copy locally | 06:37 |
poningru | its backup | 06:38 |
Burgundavia | I have an issue: I don't remember the -news moderation password and I don't have it written down... | 06:38 |
poningru | Burgundavia: I am assuming jane would know | 06:38 |
tonyyarusso | Burgundavia: Bad Corey. | 06:38 |
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poningru | somerville32: try connecting see if its backup | 06:38 |
somerville32 | Whats the passwd again? ufl@ftw ? | 06:39 |
poningru | yes | 06:39 |
poningru | which we will come jan 12 | 06:39 |
poningru | GO GATOR ;) | 06:39 |
Burgundavia | somerville32: template is an old copy | 06:39 |
Burgundavia | please copy yours over it | 06:39 |
tonyyarusso | poningru: Aaaah, now I understand the pw | 06:39 |
poningru | tonyyarusso: :D | 06:39 |
poningru | somerville32, tonyyarusso: let me know when you guys are done | 06:40 |
Burgundavia | somerville32: can I leave you with the template and copying it back to the wiki? | 06:40 |
tonyyarusso | poningru: I don't think I have anything left - was idling | 06:40 |
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Burgundavia | cool | 06:41 |
somerville32 | I think we're pretty much done now anyhow | 06:41 |
poningru | which docs did you make changes to? | 06:41 |
poningru | somerville32: | 06:42 |
poningru | which one should I save? | 06:42 |
somerville32 | Template | 06:43 |
poningru | Template or Template (2) | 06:43 |
somerville32 | I copied and pasted Template (2) over Template | 06:43 |
poningru | ah ok cool | 06:43 |
poningru | thanks | 06:43 |
poningru | gaah someone is still editing :( | 06:43 |
tonyyarusso | who? | 06:44 |
poningru | somerville32 | 06:44 |
Burgundavia | somerville32: pull the template down and edit locally | 06:44 |
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somerville32 | ok ok | 06:44 |
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somerville32 | *ready | 06:44 |
poningru | ok stopping now | 06:44 |
somerville32 | Are we done editing the template in Gobby? Can I upload to wiki now? | 06:46 |
Burgundavia | yep, at your discretion | 06:46 |
Burgundavia | ping me when you are done | 06:47 |
Burgundavia | poningru: you nuked 25 yet? please don't | 06:48 |
poningru | well I havent nuked anything | 06:48 |
poningru | just moving the autosave file around | 06:48 |
poningru | do you want me to bring it back up with everything? | 06:48 |
poningru | Burgundavia^^ | 06:49 |
Burgundavia | nope, just 25, the feisty doc and those nonenglish ones | 06:52 |
Burgundavia | somerville32: you dropped the template yet? | 06:53 |
somerville32 | Still adding a few tweaks | 06:53 |
poningru | ok | 06:54 |
somerville32 | Ok, uploaded to wiki | 06:59 |
somerville32 | Burgundavia, Why is sneak peek and rss feeds under bug stats? | 07:00 |
Burgundavia | shouldn't be | 07:00 |
Burgundavia | is an error | 07:00 |
Burgundavia | fixed | 07:01 |
Burgundavia | do you want to startup 25 or shall i? | 07:02 |
somerville32 | 25 is already started | 07:02 |
somerville32 | Do we want to delete and recreate with new template? | 07:02 |
Burgundavia | on the wiki? | 07:02 |
Burgundavia | munge it together | 07:03 |
somerville32 | Oh boy | 07:05 |
somerville32 | Nothing really _needs_ to be copied over | 07:05 |
somerville32 | The only main difference is the comments | 07:05 |
somerville32 | Do you still want me to merge the two? | 07:06 |
Burgundavia | yep | 07:06 |
Burgundavia | I just send an email to the list to that effect | 07:06 |
somerville32 | Burgundavia, I thought you wanted me to e-mail the list with a recapp. | 07:10 |
Burgundavia | I already did :) | 07:11 |
Burgundavia | had to do some of the work | 07:11 |
Burgundavia | question: has the osaf produced anything useful? | 07:11 |
Burgundavia | osaf has 22 people working full time on what, exactly? | 07:11 |
Madpilot | osaf? | 07:12 |
Burgundavia | oh, wait, wrong bloody chan | 07:12 |
Burgundavia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Applications_Foundation | 07:12 |
poningru | hehe | 07:15 |
poningru | Burgundavia: the primary osaf contribution is actually office space | 07:15 |
Burgundavia | heh | 07:15 |
poningru | to Mitchell baker, CC, and a bunch of other people | 07:15 |
Burgundavia | I suppose that is good | 07:15 |
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Burgundavia | still, they could work directly on a DE | 07:16 |
Burgundavia | accomplish more, get more code into people's hands fater | 07:16 |
Burgundavia | faster | 07:16 |
poningru | oh yeah | 07:17 |
poningru | they wasted a lot of monies on that crappy calendar project | 07:17 |
poningru | if they had just stuck the people on sunbird... | 07:17 |
poningru | but that was primarily nih problem | 07:17 |
poningru | they are an all mac shop | 07:17 |
poningru | yeah go figure | 07:17 |
poningru | and they needed a mac calendar | 07:17 |
Burgundavia | there stuff looks very OS Xy | 07:18 |
poningru | yeah | 07:19 |
poningru | sobby should be backup with everything | 07:20 |
poningru | err everything as in the stuff that was requested | 07:21 |
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somerville32 | Did you get the password? | 07:28 |
Burgundavia | nah, waiting on rt | 07:28 |
somerville32 | Who else has it? | 07:30 |
Burgundavia | nobody | 07:30 |
Burgundavia | the issue that I have every other password in my email | 07:30 |
somerville32 | hehe | 07:31 |
poningru | ... | 07:34 |
poningru | Burgundavia: dude use the gnome password keyring | 07:34 |
Burgundavia | not going to work | 07:34 |
Burgundavia | there is a nasty bug in mailman, that only allows it to save one password | 07:34 |
Burgundavia | because for some reason firefox sees all the login screens for mailman as the same page | 07:34 |
poningru | arr? | 07:35 |
poningru | hmm | 07:35 |
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somerville32 | Burgundavia, I'm going to modify front page for UWN to point to UWN 24 and 45 | 07:41 |
somerville32 | *25 | 07:41 |
Burgundavia | ok | 07:41 |
somerville32 | Are we going to spruce "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Contacts" up a bit? | 07:46 |
Burgundavia | hmm, need to merge that into a Beats page, I think | 07:46 |
somerville32 | It should be noted that UWN25 is suppose to be released tomorrow | 07:46 |
Burgundavia | I realize that | 07:47 |
tonyyarusso | yikes | 07:47 |
tonyyarusso | Well, at 22:00 UTC tomorrow onward I am very much free for some major hacking. | 07:47 |
tonyyarusso | (That's when my exam ends, and the next one after that is Friday) | 07:48 |
somerville32 | :] | 07:49 |
somerville32 | "[02:47] <Burgundavia> I realize that" | 07:52 |
somerville32 | "[02:51] * Burgundavia has quit (Remote closed the connection)" | 07:52 |
somerville32 | <g> | 07:52 |
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tonyyarusso | Burgundavia: btw, your personal wiki page has a dead link (HotAirProducers) | 07:53 |
Burgundavia | ok, keybinding ctrl-alt-home to open tomboy when it is right next to bksp is a bad idea | 07:53 |
somerville32 | <g> | 07:54 |
somerville32 | btw, I have edit lock on uwn 25 right now | 07:55 |
Burgundavia | no worries | 07:56 |
somerville32 | Why don't we move to gobby now and get UWN 25 finished (for the most part) tonight? | 07:59 |
Burgundavia | because I am about to head to bed | 08:00 |
Burgundavia | need to be at work moderately early tonight | 08:00 |
Burgundavia | tomorrow, rather | 08:00 |
somerville32 | Alright. I'll finish everything except changes in feisty | 08:00 |
somerville32 | (and I'll also leave Mark's letter for tomorrow too) | 08:02 |
Burgundavia | yep | 08:03 |
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Burgundavia | hey Admiral_Chicago | 08:07 |
Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia, be back in like 10 | 08:07 |
Admiral_Chicago | thanks for the help :) | 08:07 |
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somerville32 | Ok | 08:23 |
somerville32 | Finished community spotlight section | 08:23 |
Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia, back | 08:25 |
Burgundavia | Admiral_Chicago: for the marketing stuff | 08:28 |
Admiral_Chicago | yes | 08:28 |
Admiral_Chicago | some of that is off nixternal's page | 08:28 |
Admiral_Chicago | it's not really mine, i took his template so I have to fix it | 08:28 |
Burgundavia | righrt | 08:28 |
Burgundavia | the ubuntu magazine is dormant | 08:28 |
Burgundavia | for the bugs, list specific bug numberfs | 08:29 |
Admiral_Chicago | i just read that | 08:29 |
Burgundavia | link to the work you have done with jjesse | 08:29 |
Burgundavia | and the first sentence of the marketing stuff, about redesigning | 08:29 |
Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia, hold on a sec, none of that is mine | 08:29 |
Burgundavia | ah, ok | 08:29 |
Admiral_Chicago | let me fix that | 08:30 |
somerville32 | WOOT!! | 08:31 |
somerville32 | http://www.osnews.com/story.php/16681/Ubuntu-King-of-Distros-for-2006/ | 08:31 |
Admiral_Chicago | sweet! | 08:32 |
poningru | MINDSHARE!!! | 08:34 |
poningru | Obey UBUNTU | 08:34 |
Burgundavia | http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1 <-- I bring you back to earth with this | 08:36 |
tonyyarusso | awww | 08:36 |
somerville32 | What the poo | 08:38 |
Burgundavia | been a while coming | 08:39 |
Burgundavia | 10.1 matched us and they just released 10.2 | 08:39 |
somerville32 | Is OpenSuse 10.2 really good? | 08:40 |
Burgundavia | ok | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | suse have a lot of their own crap | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | major issues with packages and installing | 08:42 |
lotusleaf | I tried 10, haven't bothered with anything since | 08:42 |
lotusleaf | I used to use it for years, even prior to Novell | 08:42 |
Burgundavia | a crackish mix of GNOME and KDE stuff, due to the Ximian and SUSE legacies clashing | 08:42 |
Burgundavia | small archives, nothing like what we and debian provide | 08:43 |
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somerville32 | Can someone who knows a bit more about the Kurdish stuff do an article in this weeks UWN? | 08:44 |
somerville32 | Here is an article I found: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/12/05/2134243 | 08:45 |
Burgundavia | that is already in 24 | 08:46 |
somerville32 | We need a followup though | 08:48 |
Burgundavia | yep | 08:48 |
somerville32 | 24 didn't have much | 08:48 |
somerville32 | Ok, here is what is left for UWN 25: | 08:48 |
somerville32 | * | 08:48 |
somerville32 | Mark's open letter to OpenSUSE | 08:48 |
somerville32 | * | 08:48 |
somerville32 | Kurdish follow-up article | 08:48 |
somerville32 | * | 08:48 |
somerville32 | More press related articles | 08:48 |
somerville32 | * | 08:48 |
somerville32 | Feisty changes | 08:48 |
somerville32 | Then the pre-release stuff and we are done | 08:48 |
somerville32 | Yea! :] | 08:48 |
tonyyarusso | For a moment there I thought I was looking at #ubuntu and was about to mutter something about pastebins. | 08:49 |
somerville32 | ;] | 08:49 |
Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreddyMartinez#preview | 08:55 |
Admiral_Chicago | some more edits, can you provide feedback | 08:55 |
Admiral_Chicago | actually the link is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreddyMartinez | 08:55 |
Burgundavia | Admiral_Chicago: ok, good | 08:55 |
Burgundavia | for the chicago stuff, list concrete things have done | 08:56 |
Burgundavia | such as "Attended X conference" or "Manned booth at X" | 08:56 |
tonyyarusso | Admiral_Chicago: On the PGP key, you can make the link text just be the Key ID. | 08:57 |
Admiral_Chicago | hmm, that is a good idea, I can build more on that as we get going | 08:57 |
Admiral_Chicago | err as I look back at the page | 08:57 |
Burgundavia | http://www.metacafe.com/watch/334327/easy_linux_install_ubuntu_6_10/ | 09:02 |
Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia, last one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreddyMartinez | 09:07 |
Admiral_Chicago | does that add more information? | 09:07 |
Burgundavia | yep | 09:08 |
Admiral_Chicago | i wish i had some bugs I reportedh | 09:08 |
Admiral_Chicago | wait i do have some...let me check my inbox | 09:08 |
somerville32 | What about my wiki page? | 09:09 |
somerville32 | Is mine good? :] | 09:09 |
Admiral_Chicago | somerville32, link ? | 09:09 |
Admiral_Chicago | would this be a good one to add https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/72522 | 09:09 |
somerville32 | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CodySomerville | 09:09 |
Admiral_Chicago | oh somerville32 i've seen it before, you talked to elkbuntu about it | 09:11 |
somerville32 | Cool :] | 09:12 |
Admiral_Chicago | somerville32, i'd be more specific, especially some examples about what you've done | 09:12 |
Admiral_Chicago | for example, some bugs you triaged | 09:13 |
somerville32 | I have links | 09:14 |
somerville32 | :] | 09:14 |
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Admiral_Chicago | ah i didn't open them | 09:16 |
Admiral_Chicago | okay i'm going to do homework | 09:16 |
Admiral_Chicago | ttul | 09:16 |
somerville32 | Bye | 09:16 |
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poningru | nn all | 11:05 |
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atoponce | jenda: give up on dvorak? | 03:30 |
jenda | atoponce: never, why? | 03:31 |
=== jenda 's been using it for over a year | ||
=== atoponce just noticed that you're not in #dvorak. nudge nudge | ||
jenda | my bad, sorry :) | 03:33 |
jenda | my client freaked out, yesterday :) | 03:33 |
jenda | so I disconnected... I always lose valuable channels that way - thanks for finding it back for me :) | 03:33 |
atoponce | hehe. i thought we lost a typist | 03:33 |
atoponce | btw- the posters rock. just got from my loco meet two days ago, and they are sweet | 03:35 |
atoponce | putting it up in my cubicle at work | 03:35 |
atoponce | i'll get my IT dept converted just fet | 03:36 |
atoponce | s/fet/yet/ | 03:36 |
atoponce | brb | 03:36 |
MitchM_ | Someone pinged me whilst I was away. | 04:18 |
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danbuchWork | hallo beuno! | 04:36 |
beuno | hey there ;D | 04:36 |
danbuchWork | okay, so Jenda brought me into the fold with DIY/SpreadUbuntu... | 04:37 |
danbuchWork | and if he's round, I'd love to have him pop in and correct me when needed | 04:37 |
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danbuchWork | so what we've been talking about is the struggle with whether or not DIY should have a full-blown CMS in the back | 04:38 |
beuno | yeah, I agree that it should be: | 04:38 |
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beuno | 1) simple to add content | 04:38 |
jenda | hello :) | 04:38 |
beuno | 2) simple to maintain and modify | 04:38 |
danbuchWork | hallo Jenda! | 04:38 |
beuno | hellos | 04:38 |
danbuchWork | beuno: agreed | 04:38 |
jenda | atoponce: thanks, glad you like them :) | 04:39 |
atoponce | yeah. they're cool | 04:39 |
danbuchWork | ...with the biggest concern (for me, at least) that it not get out of hand | 04:39 |
beuno | is there any examples of what content there would be on each section? | 04:39 |
danbuchWork | with too many contributions / diluted marketing message, etc. | 04:39 |
danbuchWork | there are plenty of wallpapers around :-P | 04:40 |
beuno | maybe by taking a look at each I can start narrowing the options | 04:40 |
danbuchWork | I know that Jenda's been working on T-shirts, too | 04:40 |
danbuchWork | We've got the Brochure, HanZo and MadPilot's posters | 04:40 |
danbuchWork | plenty of stickers... | 04:41 |
jenda | hehe | 04:41 |
beuno | ok, I was aiming at "type" of content | 04:41 |
beuno | graphics | 04:41 |
danbuchWork | as in: the site design? /me a bit confused (sorry) | 04:41 |
beuno | with some sort of preview + svg or ai or whatever | 04:41 |
jenda | beuno: I'd aim for anything that can serve to spread ubuntu - both the official looking things and the not-so official. | 04:41 |
beuno | what I'm trying to visualize is how to present the content | 04:42 |
beuno | and when I have that in my head | 04:42 |
jenda | eg. pschulz01's brochure is the official type, one that Canonical made, and it fits the Ubuntu branding very well. The posters are made by a comix artist, and look more unofficial. | 04:42 |
beuno | I'll start narrowing down the backend options to present the content needed | 04:42 |
jenda | (although canonical approved them) | 04:42 |
jenda | aha | 04:42 |
beuno | I've read that they're would be walkthroughs | 04:45 |
jenda | yes, I'd like that to happen. | 04:45 |
danbuchWork | and the possibility for "suppliers" to advertise their wares | 04:45 |
jenda | advertise in the informative way, not in the spamming way :) | 04:46 |
beuno | so up to know we have, different ways of showing "images" that will be for tshirts, poster, etc | 04:46 |
danbuchWork | jenda: right :-D | 04:46 |
beuno | files like PDF for brochures | 04:46 |
danbuchWork | ...and possible "order forms" | 04:46 |
beuno | and walkthroughs in some sort of HTML | 04:46 |
danbuchWork | right | 04:46 |
beuno | so, the images I can cook up something clean and simple in PHP | 04:47 |
beuno | let some admin upload via a form or just drop it into a folder | 04:47 |
danbuchWork | beuno: when you're talking about presentation, are you talking about altering the CSS layout, or how the content is delivered? | 04:47 |
beuno | the walkthroughs actually pose the most problems | 04:48 |
beuno | how the content is delivered, and what is (to me) more crucial, how it's stored | 04:48 |
danbuchWork | gotcha /me not confused anymore | 04:49 |
beuno | (in the database, random html files, txt, wiki, etc) | 04:49 |
beuno | ;D | 04:49 |
danbuchWork | are you thinking that a CMS might be in order? | 04:49 |
beuno | well, for the walkthroughs to be easy and user friendly at the same time I think we'll have to go with some sort of wiki or (this I like more), modified wordpres | 04:50 |
beuno | wordpress let's you play with HTML tags, which I like more then wiki tags | 04:50 |
danbuchWork | I'd be okay with that. /me don't have any experience with wordpress, but I hear it's fun :-D | 04:50 |
beuno | so basically anyone can send the walkthrough in any format | 04:50 |
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beuno | and it would be some work on our part on adding it to wordpress (copy n paste most of the time) | 04:51 |
beuno | ataponce, I'm glad I'm not alone | 04:51 |
danbuchWork | That'd be nice, yes... non-standardized wiki markup makes jack a dull boy | 04:51 |
atoponce | beuno: i always have to keep a syntax of the current wiki system that i'm using nearby. too confusing between wikis i think | 04:52 |
danbuchWork | atopence: I second the motion | 04:52 |
atoponce | dokuwiki, mediawiki, etc,... :) | 04:52 |
beuno | yes, on the other hand, HTML I think is easier to deal with, and depending on the type of content, you wouldn't even have to leave the WYSIWYG | 04:52 |
danbuchWork | beuno: were you thinking of using wordpress for only a portion of DIY, so that we can have tighter admin of the more "static" pages? | 04:53 |
beuno | exactly | 04:53 |
danbuchWork | gute :-D | 04:53 |
danbuchWork | well, then, I guess we've got a path to start down | 04:53 |
beuno | the static pages can be *in* wordpress, or even completly out of it | 04:53 |
danbuchWork | are you willing to attack the "howto" section via wordpress, along with whatever else fits that mold? | 04:54 |
beuno | as long as we keep the walkthroughs-type of content in it to make it managable | 04:54 |
danbuchWork | right | 04:54 |
beuno | yeap, absolutly | 04:54 |
beuno | seems like a good place to start | 04:54 |
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beuno | I'm thinking something else for the images and stuff, something custom, but I'll take a look at wordpress plugins before I go down that road | 04:55 |
beuno | lol | 04:55 |
danbuchWork | beuno: you'll be so kind as to bzr update/add/commit/push yes? | 04:55 |
beuno | yeah, I've used CVS before, so I don't think bzr will pose any problems | 04:56 |
danbuchWork | then you're way ahead of _me_ :-D | 04:56 |
beuno | ;D | 04:57 |
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beuno | the commits go straight to the diy.devubuntu.com website? | 04:58 |
danbuchWork | beuno: what was the URL of your copy of DIY? | 04:58 |
danbuchWork | beuno: no... sorry | 04:58 |
danbuchWork | devubuntu.com requires ftp access | 04:58 |
beuno | http://uluga.com.ar/diy | 04:58 |
danbuchWork | but I'll put it up there as soon as I bzr update | 04:58 |
beuno | ok, well, then I'll test it on my server, and when it gets some shape, I'll commit it to bzr | 04:59 |
beuno | and then it's your problem ;D | 04:59 |
beuno | the only thing we might need to workout is the MySQL db and all that | 04:59 |
beuno | but again, I can use it on my server while we go back and forth | 05:00 |
danbuchWork | beuno: and you can always send over a .sql file so we can get in sync :-) | 05:05 |
beuno | danbuckWork, maybe you can do the layout for "howto" section so I can integrate the PHP into it? | 05:06 |
danbuchWork | in HTML, you mean? | 05:06 |
beuno | yeap | 05:06 |
beuno | HTML | 05:06 |
danbuchWork | will do | 05:06 |
beuno | I'll get working on the backend | 05:06 |
danbuchWork | exshellent | 05:07 |
beuno | and I'll try to *draw* what I see that section looking like, as far as what goes where | 05:07 |
beuno | for example: "latest additions", "10 must-see's", etc | 05:07 |
jenda | <danbuchWork> That'd be nice, yes... non-standardized wiki markup makes jack a dull boy | 05:11 |
jenda | lol :) | 05:11 |
jenda | I'm catching up with the log. | 05:11 |
beuno | I'm going out to lunch, I'll be back in a while | 05:13 |
jenda | later | 05:13 |
beuno | I'll leave this open so I can catch up | 05:13 |
beuno | ba byes | 05:13 |
jenda | Sounds great to me | 05:13 |
jenda | I'm sorry I didn't participate more ;) | 05:14 |
jenda | whoa | 05:15 |
jenda | some wild design changes there :) | 05:16 |
danbuchWork | jenda: I hope that I responded correctly to feedback ;-) | 05:18 |
jenda | hehe | 05:18 |
jenda | I'm still looking at it and thinking :) | 05:18 |
jenda | It's... | 05:19 |
danbuchWork | my biggest concern this time 'round was making it SVGA-friendly.. | 05:19 |
jenda | it's ber cool, for sure. | 05:19 |
jenda | I'm just thinking if perhaps it shouldn't be just a tidbit more verbose. | 05:19 |
jenda | Can we do tooltips? | 05:19 |
danbuchWork | tis good to hear :-D ... did you try already ;-) | 05:20 |
danbuchWork | ? | 05:20 |
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jenda | argh :) | 05:23 |
jenda | danbuchWork: great work. | 05:23 |
danbuchWork | is the verbage to your liking on the tooltips? | 05:23 |
jenda | design: | 05:23 |
jenda | we don't offer them the option of designing. | 05:24 |
danbuchWork | hrm | 05:24 |
jenda | It should say: Submit your own designs | 05:24 |
jenda | maybe | 05:24 |
jenda | no | 05:24 |
jenda | :) | 05:24 |
danbuchWork | we don't *want* to, or we don't *yet* offer it? | 05:24 |
jenda | can't make up my mind :) | 05:24 |
danbuchWork | hehe | 05:24 |
jenda | well, they design it themselves, what that button gives them is a place to give them to us... | 05:24 |
jenda | or... | 05:25 |
jenda | well, instructions to design... | 05:25 |
jenda | so I guess it's oK the way it is :) | 05:25 |
danbuchWork | I thought that the "design" section was for style and submission guidelines and such | 05:25 |
danbuchWork | right | 05:25 |
jenda | yes, you're right | 05:25 |
jenda | disregard me. | 05:25 |
jenda | :) | 05:25 |
danbuchWork | never! | 05:26 |
jenda | what I really like is the four small ones at the top, and their shading on mouseover. | 05:27 |
danbuchWork | it's all CSS, too :-D no JavaScript buttons! | 05:27 |
jenda | BTW, you have Lasse in the Credits at the bottom, I think you should put: Site credits: Lasse Havelund, Daniel Holbach, Martin Albisetti | 05:28 |
jenda | neat ;) | 05:28 |
jenda | (and add anyone else who helps) | 05:28 |
danbuchWork | it's officially on my "to do" list | 05:29 |
jenda | hehe | 05:30 |
danbuchWork | also, for the record: the stroke thickness around "design" and the funny black gradient inside the "get" icon are also set to be addressed | 05:32 |
jenda | ok :) | 05:32 |
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Burgwork | http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=182&tag=nl.e539 | 06:42 |
atoponce | Burgwork: interesting article. i wonder why he hasn't made the connection that alpha releases are prone to crashing | 06:57 |
Burgwork | no idea | 06:57 |
=== beuno is cooking up a draft for the "howtos" section to send to danbuchWork | ||
=== danbuchWork is looking forward to it :-D | ||
beuno | it's not going to be pretty, that I can promise | 07:06 |
atoponce | so is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite/HOWTOs still the repository to put the howtos, or is it changing? | 07:06 |
beuno | if I can do my job right, it's changing | 07:07 |
atoponce | what'll be the url? | 07:08 |
beuno | I'm not sure yet | 07:09 |
Burgwork | at some point the marketing team needs to meet, and one of things up for discussion in the DIY site | 07:09 |
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Burgwork | there is a possibility we can get diy on a canonical server | 07:10 |
atoponce | in the meantime, continue using the wiki? | 07:10 |
Burgwork | for diy stuff? yes? | 07:10 |
atoponce | yeah | 07:11 |
beuno | danbuchWork, I have this very sloppy DIA draft cooked up, how do you want me to send it? | 07:12 |
danbuchWork | jenda was saying we'd be at diy.ubuntu.com ... unless that was wishful thinking | 07:12 |
danbuchWork | beuno - can you post a zip on a domain in your realm? | 07:13 |
jenda | actually, they said that would be possible once it's done. | 07:13 |
beuno | yeap | 07:13 |
jenda | atoponce: the repo should stay. | 07:13 |
danbuchWork | jenda: I didn't think you'd joke about something like that :-D | 07:13 |
beuno | maybe this is a good time to mention I have a couple of dedicated servers | 07:13 |
jenda | Both jono and jane approved of it. | 07:13 |
jenda | and I'm sure matthewrevell would too :) | 07:14 |
beuno | nothing fancy, but theyre on 10mbit on a good datacenter | 07:14 |
danbuchWork | beuno: do any of them have python support with python-cheetah installed? | 07:14 |
beuno | danbuchWork, I can install whatever I want on them ;D | 07:14 |
danbuchWork | hehe.... /me rubs hands together.... excellent..... | 07:14 |
danbuchWork | perhaps you'd be able to have a separate skeletonz install up and running on one of your servers - for SpreadUbuntu, that is | 07:15 |
beuno | yeap, I probably could | 07:15 |
danbuchWork | jenda: is this something we'd want to keep working on with Mitch at devubuntu? | 07:16 |
beuno | http://uluga.com.ar/diy/diy_howto.png | 07:16 |
beuno | I don't know if that's what you where expecting, but that is what I wanted to point out ;D | 07:16 |
jenda | danbuchWork: most certainly | 07:16 |
danbuchWork | that is: should we keep a "spread.devubuntu.com" site up, assuming Mitch can give us python and python-cheetah? | 07:16 |
atoponce | beuno: looks good. easy layout, i think | 07:16 |
MenZa | jenda: the printer's majorly fucked | 07:17 |
danbuchWork | beuno: agreed - I like the idea of having a "how you can help out" link within each section | 07:17 |
MenZa | We're having some technicians look at it in the morning | 07:17 |
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jenda | MenZa: language! | 07:17 |
jenda | :) | 07:17 |
MenZa | Yeah I know :P | 07:17 |
MenZa | !language > MenZa | 07:18 |
danbuchWork | MenZa: might I recommend "Fracked" ? | 07:18 |
jenda | self-service | 07:18 |
danbuchWork | :-D | 07:18 |
MenZa | :D | 07:18 |
jenda | I'm not a big fan of euphemised swearwords. | 07:18 |
Burgwork | the reason I say a canonical server is the "hit by a bus" factor | 07:18 |
jenda | but _meh_ | 07:18 |
Burgwork | if it is on a Canonical server, if any of us get hit by buses, the project still goes one | 07:18 |
Burgwork | on, rather | 07:19 |
danbuchWork | Burgwork: agreed | 07:19 |
jenda | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nobody_cares | 07:19 |
beuno | we can host it on one of my servers until Canonical con provide the setup | 07:19 |
=== jenda /loves the people who care list on that page | ||
jenda | omg... did I just say "/love"? | 07:20 |
beuno | shouldn't be more then a DNS change (it never is, but we all can dream) | 07:20 |
danbuchWork | hehe..... | 07:20 |
danbuchWork | jenda, Burgwork: is there any reason why we shouldn't beuno host spreadubuntu until it goes live? | 07:21 |
tsmithe | wow idling is fun... | 07:21 |
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jenda | no, feel free. | 07:21 |
jenda | later, tsmithe | 07:21 |
tsmithe | cy'all | 07:21 |
tsmithe | bet ya didn't even know i was here | 07:22 |
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jenda | danbuchWork, no, there is no reason, that is :) | 07:22 |
jenda | tsmithe: you're always here ;) | 07:22 |
tsmithe | i am | 07:22 |
jenda | and elsewhere, too. | 07:22 |
tsmithe | and that | 07:22 |
danbuchWork | ...unless Mitch can get us server space with Python and Python-Cheetah :-) .... for the sake of consistency under devubuntu.com | 07:22 |
TheGods | i'm omnipresent | 07:22 |
tsmithe | right | 07:22 |
tsmithe | i mean it this time | 07:22 |
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tsmithe | damn | 07:22 |
tsmithe | i lied | 07:22 |
jenda | #tapthru, #ubuntuforums, #ubuntu-offtopic are a few I noticed... | 07:23 |
TheGods | we're omnipresent | 07:23 |
tsmithe | i really mean it now :) | 07:23 |
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tsmithe | jenda you're right | 07:23 |
tsmithe | :D | 07:23 |
beuno | well, the offer is on the table, just thought it was a good moment to point out I have a couple of those laying aroung | 07:23 |
beuno | around | 07:24 |
danbuchWork | beuno: thanks for the offer, seriously! :-D | 07:24 |
danbuchWork | I'm just a nut about consistency .... but only when it makes sense :-P | 07:24 |
beuno | ;D my pleasure | 07:24 |
beuno | yes, me too. but on the other hand, I wouldn't want things stalled because of lack of resources | 07:25 |
danbuchWork | precisely :-) | 07:25 |
danbuchWork | beuno: if you can get us a skeletonz site to play in... let's do it :-D | 07:26 |
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danbuchWork | Amir Salihefendic is the developer and he's all for the SpreadUbuntu project: amix3k {at} gmail.com | 07:27 |
danbuchWork | he also has a Google Group set up | 07:27 |
beuno | well, thats always nice to know... | 07:27 |
danbuchWork | I like his style - he took a perfectly reasonable app stack and stripped out almost everything except for Cheetah :-D | 07:28 |
danbuchWork | ...he mentioned that he's working on deb'ing skeletonz so that we can all apt-get in the near future | 07:29 |
beuno | it seems I already have everything needed installed... | 07:30 |
beuno | uploading... | 07:31 |
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beuno_ | :( | 08:12 |
beuno_ | so close... | 08:12 |
beuno_ | raise Exception, 'Could not import DB connector! Please make sure you selected the right one in amidb.py!' | 08:12 |
beuno_ | danbuckWork, it seems I'm missing something on the server | 08:17 |
beuno_ | but I'm not sure what | 08:17 |
beuno_ | Python is on there, MySQLdb is on there... | 08:18 |
danbuchWork | beuno: do you have the Python-mysql package? (not sure of actual package name)... I think I remember getting this exception | 08:18 |
beuno_ | yeap | 08:19 |
beuno_ | that's the one I have | 08:19 |
danbuchWork | if you look at the first few lines in amidb.py it should say what it's trying to import | 08:19 |
beuno_ | the db is created | 08:19 |
beuno_ | MySQL :( | 08:19 |
beuno_ | import MySQLdb as DBWrapper | 08:20 |
danbuchWork | I just pinged Amir... maybe he can help | 08:20 |
beuno_ | would be great | 08:20 |
beuno | danbuchWork, I just forwarded you ftp/ssh access to the account | 08:24 |
beuno | that might help debug :D | 08:24 |
danbuchWork | beuno: thanks :-) | 08:27 |
danbuchWork | Amir's on his way | 08:30 |
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beuno | FYI, it's a RHEL | 08:30 |
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amix | hi guys | 08:30 |
danbuchWork | beuno: good to know :-D | 08:30 |
danbuchWork | amix: thanks for joining! | 08:31 |
beuno | hey amix | 08:31 |
amix | no problems :) | 08:31 |
danbuchWork | beuno is getting a skeletonz install up... | 08:31 |
amix | i acutally join on this server for some python channels :) | 08:31 |
amix | any troubles? | 08:32 |
danbuchWork | beuno: can you give us details on the exception again? | 08:32 |
beuno | yeap | 08:32 |
beuno | (cursing pastebin) | 08:33 |
amix | beuno: try this -> http://paste.pocoo.org/ | 08:34 |
beuno | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/352/ | 08:34 |
beuno | ;D | 08:34 |
beuno | much faster | 08:34 |
amix | beuno: you don't have MySQLdb installed | 08:35 |
amix | you can get it from -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysql-python | 08:35 |
beuno | I do have mysql-python installed according to cpanel... | 08:35 |
amix | try to launch python | 08:36 |
amix | i.e. python | 08:36 |
amix | and do import MySQLdb | 08:36 |
beuno | ImportError: No module named MySQLdb | 08:36 |
beuno | :( | 08:36 |
danbuchWork | yeah... it says ImportError: No module named MySQLdb | 08:36 |
danbuchWork | argh | 08:36 |
beuno | The following packages you requested are already updated: | 08:36 |
beuno | MySQL-python | 08:36 |
beuno | Install Complete | 08:36 |
amix | maybe it's from the wrong python version | 08:37 |
amix | do you have multiple python versions installed? | 08:37 |
amix | python2.4? | 08:37 |
beuno | spread@spreadubuntu.com [~/public_html/skeletonz_beta] # python | 08:38 |
beuno | Python 2.4.3 (#1, Nov 27 2006, 11:13:11) | 08:38 |
beuno | [GCC 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-3)] on linux2 | 08:38 |
MenZa | CAT | 08:38 |
amix | beuno: i think you have installed mysqldb for python2.3? | 08:39 |
amix | try to do python2.3 and import MySQLdb | 08:39 |
danbuchWork | yeah, that seems to be workin' | 08:39 |
beuno | you arte correct | 08:39 |
beuno | are | 08:39 |
beuno | I can see a headache coming my way... | 08:40 |
danbuchWork | thanks, amix! | 08:40 |
danbuchWork | :-D | 08:40 |
amix | np :) | 08:40 |
beuno | yeah, that was invaluable help, I would of gone around in circles for hours ;D | 08:40 |
beuno | I'm kinda a clumbsy around RH, damn apt made my life so easy... | 08:41 |
amix | APT rocks :) | 08:41 |
danbuchWork | beuno: I only hope I never have to use RHEL... ubuntu is my first and I hope it's my last :-D | 08:41 |
somerville32 | Whats this for anyhow? | 08:42 |
danbuchWork | spreadubuntu.com | 08:42 |
beuno | yeah, I administrate a few RH and a few Debian/Ubuntu | 08:42 |
beuno | I get along with debian-based much better | 08:42 |
beuno | but Cpanel rocks for shared hosting, so... | 08:42 |
beuno | (not available for debian) | 08:42 |
danbuchWork | somerville32: worried we're off-topic? :-D | 08:43 |
somerville32 | Let me get this straight | 08:43 |
somerville32 | You're using Red Hat to host spreadubuntu.com? | 08:43 |
danbuchWork | for the time being, yes :-( | 08:43 |
somerville32 | There is just... something wrong with that :P | 08:44 |
beuno | well, we can always host it on a windows box... | 08:44 |
amix | :-D | 08:44 |
danbuchWork | HA! :-D | 08:44 |
amix | anyway, will be off, buy daniel can message me if you run into more problems | 08:44 |
beuno | not that I have any available, but I guess we can get vmware up and running ;D | 08:44 |
danbuchWork | thanks again, amix! | 08:45 |
beuno | thanks a bunch amir | 08:45 |
amix | i will be here, but i won't read the chat | 08:45 |
amix | no problems, and you just ask if you run into more problems | 08:45 |
danbuchWork | beuno: I've gotta get back to work - too many breaks today :-( ... I'll get those templates/layouts to you tomorrow morning | 08:46 |
beuno | great | 08:46 |
beuno | I'll keep trying to get this working | 08:46 |
beuno | and then maybe get back to wordpress hacking | 08:46 |
danbuchWork | schweet B-) | 08:47 |
beuno | ehm | 08:51 |
beuno | http://rh2.pentacorp.net:14002/ | 08:51 |
beuno | ;D | 08:52 |
beuno | Server started on port 14002 | 08:52 |
danbuchWork | let it be known the world over! well.... as soon as my DNS gets updated :-P | 08:53 |
beuno | the domain spreadubuntu.com isn't pointed yet thou | 08:54 |
beuno | and I didn't get the config right | 08:54 |
beuno | but it works ;D | 08:54 |
danbuchWork | I know that spreadubuntu.com is current pointing to ubuntu.com .... if that's any help at all :-P | 08:55 |
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beuno | oh, so what DNS do you need to get updated? | 08:56 |
beuno | http://rh2.pentacorp.net:14002/ should work/resolv | 08:56 |
danbuchWork | heck, I dunno... I'm at work behind half a dozen gateways :-D | 08:56 |
beuno | aaah | 08:56 |
beuno | heh | 08:56 |
beuno | ok ok | 08:56 |
beuno | well | 08:56 |
beuno | it works | 08:56 |
beuno | so now we know we can use the servers | 08:57 |
danbuchWork | yay! | 08:57 |
beuno | I'll get the config right and point some domain at it | 08:57 |
beuno | but now, wordpress is calling me (and maybe I should do some work too) | 08:57 |
danbuchWork | beuno: thanks for jumping into the project like this! I'll have some material for you tomorrow morning! | 08:58 |
beuno | np, glad I can help | 08:58 |
beuno | cya around! | 08:58 |
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nixternal | nice to see they caught the distro watch hack and put us back where we belong, up top ;) | 09:40 |
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somerville32 | nixternal: There was a watch hack for real? | 09:40 |
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tsmithe | awh | 09:40 |
nixternal | of course, there always is when we loose 1st place | 09:40 |
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Burgwork | danbuchWork: the hit by the bus thing. beuno is somebody I have never seen around and thus I am concerned if he vanishes | 09:56 |
danbuchWork | Burgwork: noted. I'm still going to make sure all of the files are kept in the Bazaar branch - I'm just happy he's getting a Skeletonz install up and running so we can play with the UI. | 09:57 |
danbuchWork | beuno is Martin Albisetti - jenda tells me he's not so new | 09:58 |
Burgwork | ah | 09:59 |
Burgwork | there is also the matter of access to it | 10:00 |
tsmithe | yeahs | 10:00 |
jenda | judging just by his participation recently in the mailing list. | 10:00 |
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tsmithe | although /me's yet to make a contribution :) | 10:00 |
danbuchWork | MitchM: you 'round? | 10:07 |
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danbuchWork | Burgwork: I have similar concerns. I'd like it if we could get a subdomain up on devubuntu.com - /me looks around for Mitch | 10:08 |
Burgwork | danbuchWork: is there a difference between diy and spread they? | 10:09 |
MitchM | danbuchWork, yessir -- how can I help you? | 10:09 |
danbuchWork | there will be insomuch that we're aiming at slightly different audiences... and spreadubuntu will be taking on much of what we do in diy | 10:10 |
MitchM | danbuchWork, What do you want your subdomain to be? | 10:10 |
danbuchWork | MitchM: we haven't formally met :-D I'd love it if we could have spread.devubuntu.com | 10:10 |
Burgwork | danbuchWork: sorry, I am little confused | 10:10 |
Burgwork | what is the purpose of spread then? | 10:10 |
MitchM | A desired username? | 10:11 |
danbuchWork | diy marketing is squarely for current Ubuntu users, whereas we're hoping to make spreadubuntu a bit more accessible to noobs | 10:11 |
Burgwork | no, no, that is not what I meant | 10:11 |
danbuchWork | MitchM: meatballhat , if you please | 10:11 |
danbuchWork | Burgwork: sorry :-) | 10:11 |
Burgwork | you mean to have spread as a portal for people to learn about Ubuntu? | 10:11 |
danbuchWork | more like: diy is all about materials - spread will be bigger, more participatory, more informatiive (?) ... | 10:12 |
danbuchWork | we really just broke it up a bit so as to make diy less daunting | 10:12 |
Burgwork | right, I just don't see the difference | 10:12 |
Burgwork | lets talk use cases | 10:12 |
Burgwork | diy has a clear one: I need some or want to create some marketing material | 10:12 |
danbuchWork | there aren't many, you're right :-D | 10:12 |
danbuchWork | right | 10:12 |
danbuchWork | jenda saw this as the most pressing need | 10:13 |
Burgwork | spread is a rathole, imho, that leads to massive duplication of existing resources, for little need | 10:13 |
Burgwork | or benefit | 10:13 |
Burgwork | the primary place to "spread" ubuntu, is ubuntu.com | 10:13 |
danbuchWork | duplication is absolutely not what we want | 10:13 |
Burgwork | absolutely | 10:13 |
danbuchWork | and I agree with what you're saying about ubuntu.com | 10:14 |
Burgwork | however, I fear that is exactly the path you are leading down with a "spread" page | 10:14 |
MitchM | danbuchWork, Username meatballhat | 10:14 |
danbuchWork | hrm...... | 10:14 |
danbuchWork | MitchM: thanks! | 10:14 |
MitchM | aye -- cheers. | 10:14 |
MitchM | should have ssh/ftp setup | 10:14 |
MitchM | check permissions to see if you can upload | 10:14 |
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danbuchWork | Burwork: I guess it seems that diy has gotten bigger than we first saw... | 10:14 |
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Burgwork | not really | 10:14 |
Burgwork | create and diseminate information | 10:15 |
danbuchWork | ..but without turning it into an upload-crazy abyss | 10:15 |
Burgwork | when people ask "how", we point them at a resource like the wiki | 10:15 |
Burgwork | absolutely, we need to talk about some sort of content "pipeline", where only approved stuff is promoted, etc. | 10:15 |
Burgwork | basically, we need a meeting about this | 10:16 |
danbuchWork | Burgwork: you are preachin' my sermon | 10:16 |
Burgwork | because it is very opaque | 10:16 |
danbuchWork | yes | 10:16 |
Burgwork | elkbuntu: ping | 10:16 |
Burgwork | elkbuntu and I are going to arrange one | 10:16 |
danbuchWork | excellent :-D | 10:16 |
somerville32 | Moo | 10:16 |
Burgwork | hey somerville32 | 10:17 |
somerville32 | Hi :] | 10:17 |
Burgwork | danbuchWork: also, the hit by the bus thing again. The more of us doing something on a single project, the more likely it is going to continue | 10:17 |
Burgwork | I absolutely love diy, and that is why it needs to be somewhere official | 10:17 |
MitchM | poor little devubuntu -- not official you say? | 10:18 |
Burgwork | a single place to upload and download marketing material has been something that I have been thinking about for a long time and why I was so glad jenda picked it up | 10:18 |
MitchM | *shakes head in shame* | 10:18 |
Burgwork | MitchM: I mean on a canonical server, mostly | 10:18 |
MitchM | I was kidding ;) | 10:18 |
Burgwork | heh | 10:18 |
Burgwork | there is a cautionary tale with the locoteam servers | 10:18 |
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danbuchWork | Burgwork: I'm glad to hear the diy is on your mind :-D | 10:18 |
danbuchWork | *that | 10:19 |
Burgwork | MitchM: I never lighten up ;) | 10:19 |
MitchM | You're* | 10:19 |
MitchM | har har | 10:19 |
MitchM | well -- neither do I sitting in front of this computer all day :-) | 10:19 |
MitchM | (bad punn) | 10:19 |
MitchM | danbuchWork, Give that user a quick test would ya? | 10:20 |
danbuchWork | MitchM: I'm connected - passwd? :-D | 10:20 |
danbuchWork | hehe | 10:20 |
MitchM | i msg'ed it to ya | 10:20 |
danbuchWork | thx | 10:20 |
MitchM | rgr | 10:20 |
jenda | Burgwork, MitchM - didn't yet read the whole convo, but the plan is that as soon as DIY is ready, it will attempt to go official. | 10:24 |
jenda | Both Jono and Jane S. have expressed support. | 10:25 |
MitchM | jenda, I just host the site :) ... Keep me out of the politics =) | 10:25 |
Burgwork | jenda: yes, and elkbuntu and I are trying to arrange a good meeting time, but that is hard, given the nature of our timezones | 10:25 |
jenda | hehe | 10:25 |
jenda | Don't you dare leave Europe out :) | 10:25 |
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jenda | I'm flexible, however. | 10:26 |
somerville32 | Me too | 10:26 |
Burgwork | well, we want Christina to come as well | 10:26 |
jenda | that would be great :) | 10:26 |
Burgwork | which means we have, utc+2 , 0, -4, -8 and +10 | 10:26 |
Burgwork | pretty much means there isn't a good time of day, unless somebody sacrafices sleep | 10:26 |
jenda | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings | 10:27 |
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jenda | PLEASE keep it up to date :) | 10:27 |
Burgwork | heh | 10:27 |
jenda | I'm willing to sacrifice sleep. I do it all the time. | 10:27 |
jenda | Not sure how many other europoids there are. | 10:27 |
somerville32 | Jenda: What TZ are you in? | 10:28 |
jenda | +2 is it? | 10:28 |
jenda | that means, if it's 3 AM my time, it'll be 22 yours | 10:29 |
jenda | good for americans... | 10:29 |
jenda | and early-ish morning for them aussies. | 10:29 |
tsmithe | what did i miss? seems busier in here than usual | 10:36 |
jenda | nothing... | 10:36 |
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tsmithe | do you want me to read my logs? | 10:37 |
tsmithe | ok | 10:37 |
tsmithe | not much happened | 10:37 |
tsmithe | remember, keep times utc! | 10:37 |
jenda | hehe | 10:39 |
tsmithe | makes life the extra bit easier for me :P | 10:41 |
jenda | tsmithe, please don't. | 11:10 |
tsmithe | oh yeah | 11:11 |
tsmithe | i'm proving the unbelievers in #politics wrong | 11:11 |
tsmithe | i forgot about quiet channels | 11:11 |
tsmithe | :) | 11:11 |
jenda | Nick changes aren't popular, you know taht. | 11:11 |
tsmithe | nor is #politics but that doesn't stop them being popular | 11:12 |
tsmithe | :) | 11:12 |
tsmithe | bye jenda | 11:14 |
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