=== Rjian [n=chatzill@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:03] Burgundavia, do you want to try do those feisty changes i didnt do (for lack of finding changelogs)? [02:04] yep, will do [02:04] eating dinner === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === somerville32 m === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-68-200-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MefistoRQ [n=MefistoR@adsl-ull-250-21.46-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:53] hey somerville32 [04:54] elkbuntu: you around to help spell check? [04:54] Burgundavia, Hi :) [04:54] Burgundavia, yep, soon [04:54] excellent [04:54] lets get this beast out === somerville32 boots up gobby. === Rjian [n=chatzill@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:59] My new best friend is /exec in xhcat === Rjian is now known as rjian[lunch] === rjian[lunch] is now known as rjian === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MefistoRQ [n=MefistoR@adsl-ull-250-21.46-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [05:24] Burgundavia, see gobby [05:24] meh, you beat me to it === kylevan [n=kyle@d207-6-157-243.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === kylevan [n=kyle@d207-6-157-243.bchsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] [05:35] let talks about next weeks [05:35] k [05:35] elkbuntu: ? [05:35] s/let talks/let's talk/ [05:36] s/weeks/week's/ [05:36] right [05:36] wrong [05:36] Mmm, maybe. Pretty sure though. [05:36] some of this week was slowed down by some of my stuff [05:37] would it be worth editing the template to add notes on how to edit each section, so that people can just jump in? [05:37] I'd think so. [05:37] (I will likely continue to be useless for the next one, but can do the next two after that hopefully) [05:37] I probably should also dump the feisty changes stuff on the wiki each night or so [05:38] The easier we make entry, the more peope we can pull in. [05:38] leaving it in gobby: mistake or not? [05:38] Burgundavia: The fridge has been pretty slow lately. We should pimp UWN there. [05:38] we do [05:38] I will write something === somerville32 nods. [05:39] I don't think UWN 23 got announced [05:39] Frankly, I like the idea of having the in-progress one in Gobby start-to-finish, but that's just me. [05:39] hmm, it might not have [05:39] elkbuntu: ? [05:39] Burgundavia, lemme read up [05:39] The thing I like about having it in the wiki is that I can work on it anywhere there is a web connection [05:39] yes, that is nice [05:39] ie. no need to install gobby [05:40] I wish the wiki did collaborative editing [05:40] um, yeah, wiki is nice, it's only the final sprint we need gobby for [05:40] tbh === somerville32 agrees. [05:40] Having it in Gobby would be my own little utopia, practically speaking, yeah, it makes more sense on the wiki. [05:41] SynchroEdit works for Firefox 1.0-2.0 (and other Mozilla-class browsers such as Camino and Flock). It supports rich-text documents. SynchroEdit relies on W3C DOM Event change extensions which IE and other browsers do not yet support. Open-source (MPL and GPL). Java server-side and JavaScript client. The protocol is open and documented in the SynchroEdit Development Wiki. A proof-of-concept version of SynchroEdit demonstra [05:41] ting integration with MediaWiki is available as patches, but is intended to eventually be a plugin or extension to MediaWiki proper. [05:41] Burgundavia, it'd be nice for the SA Parliament thing to get a fridge showing, seperate from the UWN, if you could arrange that? [05:41] Interesting concept [05:42] sure [05:43] What about a new team of the week section? [05:43] somerville32, there's an extent to how many sections we can pack in [05:43] That could be cool, although I doubt we'll have on every time. [05:43] ... of the week haven't work well, unless we get somebody to write it [05:43] if we move to "beats", that woudl work [05:44] ie. We could promote teams like ubuntu-qa, ubuntu-bugs, ubuntu-dev, xubuntu-team, telepathy, etc. and get people educated about their purpose, how to get involved, etc. [05:44] and i suspect, or i hope, that with the debaday thing being revived, we'll be able to source stuff from that [05:44] On a different tack, rather than being a hilight of existing things, are new teams even announced anywhere right now? [05:44] not really === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:45] I don't mind writing a team of the week thing [05:45] Maybe we could do that much, a once-a-month roundup of new ones that have started perhaps. [05:45] tonyyarusso, we've started with the LoCos, but there's no problem adding team announcements to the community news section [05:45] elkbuntu: Righto [05:46] We'd probably get some hugs from jono too [05:46] in fact, i personally encourage it [05:46] tonyyarusso, indeed === somerville32 nods. [05:46] Hmmm [05:46] eep, i made my leg bleed and it wont stop... stupid ingrown hair [05:46] right now our challenge is scaling, not content [05:47] Burgundavia, yeah [05:47] elkbuntu: ingrown...hair? [05:47] we need to figure out how to release on time each week [05:47] True. [05:47] More people would help that, hence my support of "make this really easy" instructions in the template [05:47] yep [05:47] should we also move to "beats"? [05:48] Also, I get the feeling there are a lot of people that would be willing to help that just don't know we're here. [05:48] "beats"? [05:48] Burgundavia, i think so [05:48] tonyyarusso, focus areas [05:48] elkbuntu: Ah, as in Burgundavia does Feisty changes, etc. [05:48] ? [05:48] UWN 24 was ready to be released EXCEPT for the stuff that currently requires Burgundavia [05:48] Burgundavia: enforcable deadlines with each person having an understudy [fallback person, whatever] notified ASAP if the person assigned to said task won't be able to finish it prior to deadline? [05:48] ie, me do locos, cody do community news, corey.. yeah [05:48] Makes sense. [05:48] somerville32: yep, stuff that required me this week fell down [05:49] somerville32, because he tries to do too much. beats would sort of help stop him : [05:49] bottlenecking on anybody is bad, except for the final sending [05:50] I'm good at spellchecking and finding press stuff usually (imo anyway) [05:50] Maybe we should have a policy that articles get deferred automatically if they aren't ready on time? [05:50] i think this is a perfect excuse to discuss a meeting time [05:50] sure, but we shoudl define "core" and "secondary" articles [05:51] Good idea [05:51] why don't we pull the template into gobby and work on it? [05:51] elkbuntu: true === somerville32 nods. [05:52] As for a meeting, I think we're the only ones that regularly contribute so I guess this IS a meeting [05:52] somerville32, not a full one [05:52] and there was no prior warning for peopel to work around [05:52] If we have a meeting, it would be useful to have two parts: How to get involved; and the more in-depth. Publicize as widely as possible, and get new folks to the first half, and if they want to jump in right away they can stick around for the second. [05:52] this is a brainstorm, not a meeting [05:53] ok, template up [05:53] It would be very very useful to have a meeting that intends to include more people than those who already do work. === somerville32 nods as he watches the brains storm about. [05:53] Oh boo [05:54] No server IP in the topic - always gotta grab it from the wiki. [05:54] absolutely [05:54] elkbuntu: who controls the dns for devbuntu.org? [05:54] Burgundavia, MitchM_ [05:55] we should point gobby.devubuntu.org at something stable [05:55] we could ask him if he can set up a gobby on it [05:56] that woudl work [05:56] poningrus occasionally changes, his IP, rather [05:57] yep [05:59] ok, start volunteering for jobs [06:03] Meaning throw your name next to something that looks good for you? [06:03] yep, choose what you want to do [06:05] Gah [06:06] I was busy working on adding comments and what not while you guys scooped up all the jobs :P [06:06] heh === encryptz [n=atoponce@oalug/member/atoponce] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:14] somerville32: don't just list the format as "see last UWN" [06:14] list what it is [06:14] Yeah, I was just going to go looking for some of those [06:15] good === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:19] ok, copying the beats section to the editing policies page [06:22] somerville32, elkbuntu: editing the template? === somerville32 nods. [06:22] Heavily [06:22] somebody want to write up a short summary of this discussion and get it on the -marketing team? [06:22] The ml? [06:23] yes [06:23] I am going to release 24 [06:23] Sure. [06:23] One sec [06:23] I found something that needs fixing [06:23] ok === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:24] wtf [06:24] grr [06:24] stupid xchat [06:24] !wtf [06:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about wtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:25] :D [06:26] rofl [06:26] somerville32: btw gl with membership on tuesday [06:26] Thanks! :) [06:26] Burgundavia, done [06:26] can you copy it back [06:27] I am trying to remember the bleedin -new moderator password [06:27] I edited the wiki directly [06:28] ah, ok [06:28] poningru: greetings [06:28] can you cleanup your server? [06:28] everything but the template [06:28] yep [06:28] oh, waiting, leave the "lookingforwardatfeisty" doc as well [06:28] k [06:28] wait what about the fr stuff? [06:29] Burgundavia^^ [06:30] leave the non-english stuff [06:32] hello guys seems all ur busy.. :) [06:34] Oh no! [06:34] somerville32: ? [06:34] "Can not assign requested address" === somerville32 was disconnected. [06:35] and can't reconnect [06:36] somerville32: same here [06:36] poningru: ? ^^ [06:36] I hope the changes aren't lost [06:36] uh thats cause [06:36] wtf [06:36] yeah I am shutting stuff down [06:36] :( [06:36] hold on I can bring it back up [06:36] sorry [06:36] I can host on an AMD dual core if need be, haha [06:37] should have warned you guys [06:37] just don't lose our stuff [06:37] somerville32: it was from Burgundavia's request [06:37] how about this I will bring stuff backup and then finish up what you guys were doing [06:37] I saved a copy locally [06:38] its backup [06:38] I have an issue: I don't remember the -news moderation password and I don't have it written down... [06:38] Burgundavia: I am assuming jane would know [06:38] Burgundavia: Bad Corey. === tonyyarusso points to Revelation [06:38] somerville32: try connecting see if its backup [06:39] Whats the passwd again? ufl@ftw ? [06:39] yes [06:39] which we will come jan 12 [06:39] GO GATOR ;) [06:39] somerville32: template is an old copy [06:39] please copy yours over it [06:39] poningru: Aaaah, now I understand the pw [06:39] tonyyarusso: :D [06:40] somerville32, tonyyarusso: let me know when you guys are done [06:40] somerville32: can I leave you with the template and copying it back to the wiki? [06:40] poningru: I don't think I have anything left - was idling === somerville32 nods at Burgundavia [06:41] cool [06:41] I think we're pretty much done now anyhow [06:41] which docs did you make changes to? [06:42] somerville32: [06:42] which one should I save? [06:43] Template [06:43] Template or Template (2) [06:43] I copied and pasted Template (2) over Template [06:43] ah ok cool [06:43] thanks [06:43] gaah someone is still editing :( [06:44] who? [06:44] somerville32 [06:44] somerville32: pull the template down and edit locally === somerville32 is still editing :P [06:44] ok ok === somerville32 is reayd. [06:44] *ready [06:44] ok stopping now [06:46] Are we done editing the template in Gobby? Can I upload to wiki now? [06:46] yep, at your discretion [06:47] ping me when you are done [06:48] poningru: you nuked 25 yet? please don't [06:48] well I havent nuked anything [06:48] just moving the autosave file around [06:48] do you want me to bring it back up with everything? [06:49] Burgundavia^^ [06:52] nope, just 25, the feisty doc and those nonenglish ones [06:53] somerville32: you dropped the template yet? [06:53] Still adding a few tweaks [06:54] ok [06:59] Ok, uploaded to wiki [07:00] Burgundavia, Why is sneak peek and rss feeds under bug stats? [07:00] shouldn't be [07:00] is an error [07:01] fixed [07:02] do you want to startup 25 or shall i? [07:02] 25 is already started [07:02] Do we want to delete and recreate with new template? [07:02] on the wiki? [07:03] munge it together [07:05] Oh boy [07:05] Nothing really _needs_ to be copied over [07:05] The only main difference is the comments [07:06] Do you still want me to merge the two? [07:06] yep [07:06] I just send an email to the list to that effect [07:10] Burgundavia, I thought you wanted me to e-mail the list with a recapp. [07:11] I already did :) [07:11] had to do some of the work [07:11] question: has the osaf produced anything useful? [07:11] osaf has 22 people working full time on what, exactly? [07:12] osaf? [07:12] oh, wait, wrong bloody chan [07:12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Applications_Foundation [07:15] hehe [07:15] Burgundavia: the primary osaf contribution is actually office space [07:15] heh [07:15] to Mitchell baker, CC, and a bunch of other people [07:15] I suppose that is good === poningru visited the office couple of years ago [07:16] still, they could work directly on a DE [07:16] accomplish more, get more code into people's hands fater [07:16] faster [07:17] oh yeah [07:17] they wasted a lot of monies on that crappy calendar project [07:17] if they had just stuck the people on sunbird... [07:17] but that was primarily nih problem [07:17] they are an all mac shop [07:17] yeah go figure [07:17] and they needed a mac calendar [07:18] there stuff looks very OS Xy [07:19] yeah [07:20] sobby should be backup with everything [07:21] err everything as in the stuff that was requested === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034086016.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:28] Did you get the password? [07:28] nah, waiting on rt [07:30] Who else has it? [07:30] nobody [07:30] the issue that I have every other password in my email [07:31] hehe [07:34] ... [07:34] Burgundavia: dude use the gnome password keyring [07:34] not going to work [07:34] there is a nasty bug in mailman, that only allows it to save one password [07:34] because for some reason firefox sees all the login screens for mailman as the same page [07:35] arr? [07:35] hmm === poningru searches bmo [07:41] Burgundavia, I'm going to modify front page for UWN to point to UWN 24 and 45 [07:41] *25 [07:41] ok [07:46] Are we going to spruce "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Contacts" up a bit? [07:46] hmm, need to merge that into a Beats page, I think [07:46] It should be noted that UWN25 is suppose to be released tomorrow [07:47] I realize that [07:47] yikes [07:47] Well, at 22:00 UTC tomorrow onward I am very much free for some major hacking. [07:48] (That's when my exam ends, and the next one after that is Friday) [07:49] :] [07:52] "[02:47] I realize that" [07:52] "[02:51] * Burgundavia has quit (Remote closed the connection)" [07:52] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:53] Burgundavia: btw, your personal wiki page has a dead link (HotAirProducers) [07:53] ok, keybinding ctrl-alt-home to open tomboy when it is right next to bksp is a bad idea [07:54] [07:55] btw, I have edit lock on uwn 25 right now [07:56] no worries [07:59] Why don't we move to gobby now and get UWN 25 finished (for the most part) tonight? [08:00] because I am about to head to bed [08:00] need to be at work moderately early tonight [08:00] tomorrow, rather [08:00] Alright. I'll finish everything except changes in feisty [08:02] (and I'll also leave Mark's letter for tomorrow too) [08:03] yep === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@74.39.212.101] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:07] hey Admiral_Chicago [08:07] Burgundavia, be back in like 10 [08:07] thanks for the help :) === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:23] Ok [08:23] Finished community spotlight section [08:25] Burgundavia, back [08:28] Admiral_Chicago: for the marketing stuff [08:28] yes [08:28] some of that is off nixternal's page [08:28] it's not really mine, i took his template so I have to fix it [08:28] righrt [08:28] the ubuntu magazine is dormant [08:29] for the bugs, list specific bug numberfs [08:29] i just read that [08:29] link to the work you have done with jjesse [08:29] and the first sentence of the marketing stuff, about redesigning [08:29] Burgundavia, hold on a sec, none of that is mine [08:29] ah, ok [08:30] let me fix that [08:31] WOOT!! [08:31] http://www.osnews.com/story.php/16681/Ubuntu-King-of-Distros-for-2006/ [08:32] sweet! [08:34] MINDSHARE!!! [08:34] Obey UBUNTU [08:36] http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1 <-- I bring you back to earth with this [08:36] awww [08:38] What the poo [08:39] been a while coming [08:39] 10.1 matched us and they just released 10.2 [08:40] Is OpenSuse 10.2 really good? [08:41] ok [08:41] suse have a lot of their own crap [08:42] major issues with packages and installing [08:42] I tried 10, haven't bothered with anything since [08:42] I used to use it for years, even prior to Novell [08:42] a crackish mix of GNOME and KDE stuff, due to the Ximian and SUSE legacies clashing [08:43] small archives, nothing like what we and debian provide === somerville32 nods [08:44] Can someone who knows a bit more about the Kurdish stuff do an article in this weeks UWN? [08:45] Here is an article I found: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/12/05/2134243 [08:46] that is already in 24 [08:48] We need a followup though [08:48] yep [08:48] 24 didn't have much [08:48] Ok, here is what is left for UWN 25: [08:48] * [08:48] Mark's open letter to OpenSUSE [08:48] * [08:48] Kurdish follow-up article [08:48] * [08:48] More press related articles [08:48] * [08:48] Feisty changes [08:48] Then the pre-release stuff and we are done [08:48] Yea! :] [08:49] For a moment there I thought I was looking at #ubuntu and was about to mutter something about pastebins. [08:49] ;] [08:55] Burgundavia, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreddyMartinez#preview [08:55] some more edits, can you provide feedback [08:55] actually the link is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreddyMartinez [08:55] Admiral_Chicago: ok, good [08:56] for the chicago stuff, list concrete things have done [08:56] such as "Attended X conference" or "Manned booth at X" [08:57] Admiral_Chicago: On the PGP key, you can make the link text just be the Key ID. [08:57] hmm, that is a good idea, I can build more on that as we get going [08:57] err as I look back at the page [09:02] http://www.metacafe.com/watch/334327/easy_linux_install_ubuntu_6_10/ [09:07] Burgundavia, last one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreddyMartinez [09:07] does that add more information? [09:08] yep [09:08] i wish i had some bugs I reportedh [09:08] wait i do have some...let me check my inbox [09:09] What about my wiki page? [09:09] Is mine good? :] [09:09] somerville32, link ? [09:09] would this be a good one to add https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/72522 [09:09] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CodySomerville [09:11] oh somerville32 i've seen it before, you talked to elkbuntu about it [09:12] Cool :] [09:12] somerville32, i'd be more specific, especially some examples about what you've done [09:13] for example, some bugs you triaged [09:14] I have links [09:14] :] === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:16] ah i didn't open them [09:16] okay i'm going to do homework [09:16] ttul [09:16] Bye === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@74.39.212.101] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:05] nn all === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B26B2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] [03:30] jenda: give up on dvorak? [03:31] atoponce: never, why? === jenda 's been using it for over a year === atoponce just noticed that you're not in #dvorak. nudge nudge [03:33] my bad, sorry :) [03:33] my client freaked out, yesterday :) [03:33] so I disconnected... I always lose valuable channels that way - thanks for finding it back for me :) [03:33]