[12:16] <jonathan_> finished installing now
[12:16] <jason> nope lol
[12:16] <jason> maybe you installed a gnome program with the gconf dependency?
[12:17] <intelikey> eilker if you have gconf installed probably
[12:17] <jonathan_> bye all
[12:18] <eilker> intelikey : i have this //Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0// is tihs a warning or error ?
[12:19] <sercik> i can't play real stream with kubuntu please help!
[12:19] <aimtrainer> hi! I have a Samsung x11 carl with an nvidia videocard and have some trouble to use the external monitor with a seperate xscreen. I opened the nvidia-seetings in console and here is the output when I try to have it write the settings to the x config file: http://pastebin.ca/276013 Can anyone help me please?
[12:19] <santiago> could someone help me fixing my audio? I'm having problems with it
[12:19] <mc__> sercik: you could try installing mplayer
[12:19] <sercik> i have mplayer installed
[12:19] <sercik> and i have installed firefox
[12:20] <sercik> i have tried about:plugins and there i smplayer plugin installed
[12:20] <sercik> i want to use realplay because mplayer doesn't play video
[12:20] <intelikey> eilker errors are generally denoted by the word "error"   or the abrevation   "E:"
[12:20] <TheGateKeeper> what port(s) does amarok use for streamed radio?
[12:20] <sercik> realplayer test page
[12:20] <sercik> don't work
[12:21] <intelikey> eilker i don't know what provided the  gconf.xml.mandatory    but i have one also.
[12:22] <[GuS] > Re..
[12:24] <NewNovice> xset dpms force off does not power the monitor off--it just blanks the screen.  Ideas?
[12:24] <eilker> intelikey : i see, do u get same thing syslog ? did u pay attention for it ?
[12:24] <intelikey> eilker i don't use syslog
[12:25] <eilker> intelikey : how come ? what do u use ? let me know pls
[12:25] <intelikey> eilker all logging turned off   is my default.
[12:26] <eilker> intelikey : for speed performance ?
[12:26] <towync> hi room
[12:26] <intelikey> disk space   hdd = 4g
[12:26] <Zarephath> Is there any software that I can use to display a atomic model of nobelium?
[12:26] <towync> probably
[12:27] <Zarephath> ie bohr model
[12:27] <sercik> help me please
[12:27] <Zarephath> How about creating it? And the name
[12:27] <Zarephath> sercik: What up?
[12:27] <sercik> playing real player.. on kubuntu
[12:28] <Jucato> !kalzium | Zarephath
[12:28] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:28] <sercik> i have tried to install firefox and it comes with mplayer plugin
[12:28] <Jucato> er.. sorry
[12:28] <Zarephath> sercik, : did you do everything in the restricted formats page?
[12:28] <Zarephath> Jucato: Kewl..thanks!!!!
[12:28] <towync> Zarephath pymol
[12:28] <Jucato> Zarephath: yep, kalzium
[12:28] <towync> jucato hey sup =)
[12:29] <Jucato> hi tow
[12:29] <Jucato> hi towync
[12:29] <towync> jucato couple days no see =)
[12:29] <Jucato> heh yeah. what happened to you? :)
[12:29] <sercik> Zerephath which is the exact link?
[12:29] <towync> jucato studying for finals lol
[12:29] <Jucato> kool. how was it?
[12:29] <eilker> in samba,            localhost nmbd[6309] :   Error - should be sent to WINS server  // any idea ?
[12:30] <towync> jucato still studying for finals lol, won't be done till saturday
[12:30] <towync> jucato i hope i'm still alive by then haha
[12:30] <Jucato> heh good luck, then :)
[12:30] <towync> jucato thx, will definately need it =)
[12:31] <Zarephath> Are we having repository issues? synaptic is borking out
[12:32] <Jucato> which repository/server?
[12:32] <Zarephath> PPC
[12:32] <Zarephath> All of them apparently..tried to reload synaptic and I got nothing
[12:32] <Jucato> I mean us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[12:32] <Zarephath> Yep
[12:32] <Jucato> hm... they're still having problems...
[12:33] <kkathman> no problems here with the repos
[12:33] <kkathman> I use gb tho
[12:33] <Zarephath> Jucato, : Is it intermittent?
[12:33] <Jucato> Zarephath: try temporarily switching to a different server
[12:33] <Jucato> Zarephath: I think so
[12:33] <Zarephath> Jucato: Yep working on it now..thanks
[12:34] <sampo-> Please help: I'm making software-raid1 and I did not found, where is mkraid program?
[12:34] <kkathman> eilker: easily googled - check out package creation in Debian
[12:35] <sercik> Zarephath: i have installed swiftfox and plugin witn automtix2 now i have tried real player test page and i can only listen but i don't see video
[12:35] <kkathman> sercik:  using Firefox or Konqueror?
[12:35] <Zarephath> sercik: Your answers can be found under the restricted formats page...*if* you follow all the directions it should work...it does on my kids computer...
[12:36] <kkathman> There is a bug in Firefox 2 that prevents some formats from working and showing video. but it should work ok in Konqueror
[12:36] <sercik> that page is outdated i use edgy
[12:37] <kkathman> actually its an incompatibility of Firefox 2 with the mplayerplug-in 3.31
[12:37] <sercik> kkathman is not important using firefox or comqueror
[12:37] <NewNovice> xset dpms force off does not power the monitor off--it just blanks the screen.  Ideas?
[12:37] <sercik> i have tried firefox and it use mplayer plugin but video doesn't work
[12:38] <kkathman> sercik:  its a little important, it works in Konqueror, and not in Firefox
[12:38] <sercik> then i have tried swiftfox and it use helix plugin it opens realplay in a new windows and also no video
[12:38] <Vladdy> hmm
[12:38] <kkathman> sercik:  are you saying it does not work in Konqueror?
[12:38] <Vladdy> I'm trying to get an australian friend to do apt-get update
[12:39] <Vladdy> but all servers time out
[12:39] <Vladdy> yet because she talks to me she's surely on the internet :S
[12:39] <sercik> konqueror try to open eith amarok that can't play
[12:39] <kkathman> Vladdy try the gb mirror
[12:40] <Jucato> Vladdy: try any mirror/server other than us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:40] <Vladdy> it's au.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:40] <kkathman> Vladdy  gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <Vladdy> well
[12:41] <Dan_Edin> how do i install a package and ignore dependencies?
[12:41] <Vladdy> it seems she can visit those pages, but apt-get update fails, any chance of proxy settings acting up?
[12:42] <sercik> someone of us could try to play: http://service.real.com/learnnav/testrams/realvideo10_ISDN.ram
[12:42] <sercik> i don't see video
[12:42] <sercik> also if i use realplayer for linux
[12:43] <niblets> anyone know where to get a linux installer for AOE II
[12:43] <intelikey> "<Dan_Edin> how do i install a package and ignore dependencies?"   can that be done in ubuntu ?
[12:43] <niblets> ?
[12:43] <kkathman> sercik:  yes I can play that in Konqueror
[12:43] <LjL> intelikey: not really
[12:43] <sercik> i no
[12:44] <sercik> you see video?
[12:44] <LjL> intelikey: i mean, you can force dpkg to do it, but then next time you do an "apt-get"-whatever, that package will be uninstalled
[12:44] <kkathman> sercik:  are you using konqueror ?
[12:44] <intelikey> Dan_Edin one might dpkg -i --force-all filename-version-info.deb   but it is sure to cause headaches
[12:44] <sercik> konqueror want to launch external application
[12:44] <sercik> in particularly amarok
[12:45] <intelikey> LjL not uninstalled if you lock it.
[12:45] <sercik> but i have also tried to paste link directly in realplayer
[12:45] <intelikey> but there will be complications.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> realplayer ...yuk
[12:46] <LjL> intelikey: i don't doubt that for a moment =)
[12:46] <kkathman> sercik:  open Konqueror, go to Settings/Configure Konqueror - then choose on the left - Plugins - then scan for new pluginss, say OK, and then close and reopen Konqueror
[12:47] <intelikey> where is the "simple" howto for ssh  ???
[12:47] <intelikey> !ssh
[12:47] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:47] <intelikey> there maybe...
[12:47] <sercik> i have done it now i try
[12:48] <sercik> kkathman: you are a son.... :)) seems sorking!!
[12:49] <kkathman> :)
[12:49] <sercik> konqueror is saying cache fill
[12:49] <SlimG> anyone know howto use the command 'install' to move/copy "./dir1" into "./dir2" so the result becomes "./dir2/dir1" ?
[12:50] <sercik> konqueror say kmplayer stop playing
[12:50] <gokur20> buona sera a tutte le donne
[12:51] <Wolf_> buone sera a tutte le donne
[12:51] <weswh-> whenever i mount a drive (sudo mount device path), it is only really avail to root. (sometimes in weird cases drives have been semi avail to my user). which means i can't copy stuff around easily, and also makes the mount not work when i run applications at a user level. i have seen some guides that tell you how to make it avail to users if you are editing fstab - but if i am just doing a quick temporary mount, how do i accomplish this
[12:51] <weswh-> through command line?
[12:52] <weswh-> i want it to have the same permissions as my home dir, basically
[12:52] <sercik> if i click on a link in konqueror it wants open external application
[12:52] <sercik> if i paste link directly and press enter it use kmplayer
[12:52] <sercik> but no video in both cases
[12:53] <intelikey> hmm ok i have passwordless login locally and over ssh
[12:53] <intelikey> nice took me almost an hour to undo all the security....   lol
[12:54] <sercik> kkathman no video also if a paste link into realplayer
[12:54] <sercik> konqueror will try to open an application
[12:54] <rolyat> does anyone know why kmymoney2 has no ofx import in edgy
[12:55] <sercik> i have also managed that preferences so that it open realplayer
[12:55] <rolyat> i have libofx installed and there is know menu entry
[12:56] <rolyat> *no menu entry
[12:57] <sercik> also in kmplayer novideo
[12:57] <urug> #pl
[12:57] <sercik> in kmplayer i must use mplayer engine because with xine it doesn't play
[12:58] <frank___> are there any mythtv users here? I have a problem running firefox and mythtranscode at the same time. firefox slow down to a crawl
[12:58] <Vladdy> frank___: renice 19 -p $(pidof mythtranscode) :p
[12:59] <sercik> !real
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <sercik> !realplayer
[12:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:59] <frank___> Vladdy: that works sometime but not always (no idea why) and mythtranscode runs at nice 17
[01:00] <dom> hi, amarok isn't playing my (native) FLAC files.  it says "no available decoder".  I'm on the latest Edgy Eft
[01:00] <valmarko> Hello. Where can I find instructions to install plugins to watch codified DVDS and TV streaming?
[01:01] <arsenal> hello is there anybody who knows how could i install blueconnect?
[01:01] <weswh-> is it possible to run an ssh server off of the livecd?
[01:01] <weswh-> if so - what is the "account" that is used?
[01:02] <kkathman> sercik:  you installed kmplayer-konq-plugins ??
[01:02] <weswh-> password and such
[01:02] <sercik> i don't know
[01:03] <sercik> apt-get can't find  kmplayer-konq-plugins
[01:03] <deitarion> What's a good Kubuntu-accessible program for printing envelopes?
[01:03] <kkathman> sercik:  sudo apt-get install kmplayer-konq-plugins... then go back to konqueror and do that scan again and restart..should work fine
[01:04] <sercik> already installed
[01:04] <sercik> please kkathman the problem is not browser
[01:04] <kkathman> sercik:  should work then...cuz that is what plays the real media
[01:04] <sercik> because the video doesn't play also if i use realplay directly
[01:04] <intelikey> hehhe  what is this krap???   ssh guest@localhost
[01:04] <intelikey> You don't exist, go away!
[01:05] <intelikey> ?
[01:05] <cntb> !autologon | cntb
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autologon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <cntb> autologon ? where to look ?
[01:06] <sercik> kkathman do you see video or only audio?
[01:06] <kkathman> both
[01:06] <cntb> also nvidia rotate screen?
[01:06] <intelikey> the kdm settings cntb
[01:06] <kkathman> in konqueror
[01:06] <sercik> fuck[] @12@45
[01:06] <sercik> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:06] <LjL> !language
[01:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:06] <cntb> tyvm intelikey
[01:07] <sercik> excuse for the fu...
[01:07] <sercik> the problem is not browser i don't know which is
[01:07] <sercik> i can listen audio but not video
[01:07] <dom> ok, seriously, why doesn't amarok play these FLACs?  will it play Ogg FLACs?
[01:07] <crimsun> doubtful
[01:08] <sercik> good night to all!!
[01:08] <crimsun> I haven't found many *nix players that will play ogg flacs
[01:08] <cntb> LjL,  wat is iin  ubuntu-classroom ?
[01:08] <sercik> and thanks to kkathman and all other people on this forum
[01:08] <crimsun> heck, ogg123 doesn't even play ogg flacs
[01:08] <dom> crimsun,  it doesn't seem unlikely
[01:09] <crimsun> the only workaround I've used is to pipe flac --ogg's output to aplay
[01:09] <LjL> cntb: classes :-) there's instructors teaching things about Ubuntu. when there's no class, it's used for the longer "troubleshooting sessions" and the like
[01:10] <dom> i'm just not sure what to make of flac failing though.  on dapper, libxine got b0rk3d so I had to install that custom libxine.  but when I upgraded to Edgy, the machine at my office plays FLACs fine without the patch but my machine at home is also borked.  my home machine was a "clean" install...
[01:10] <cntb> nice very nice LjL looks like ubuntu is expanding every week LjL  . if not every day
[01:10] <LjL> cntb, that channel exists since quite a little ;)
[01:11] <intelikey> i'm having trubble setting up a guest account that one can ssh into...   the problem is that ssh just says "You don't exist, go away!"   if i try to login as guest.  other accounts work fine.   anyone want to tackle this ?
[01:11] <cntb> dating from open week I guess
[01:11] <cntb> which I missed LjL
[01:11] <Jucato> cntb: even waaay back before that
[01:11] <dom> intelikey,  if you tail syslog or auth.log, what's the error there?
[01:12] <LjL> cntb: it existed before open week
[01:12] <cntb> LjL,  said since quite a lil
[01:12] <cntb> OK
[01:12] <Jucato> cntb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[01:12] <dom> intelikey,  it might say "guest" is in "DenyUsers" which would do it (that's in /etc/ssh/sshd_conf)
[01:12] <intelikey> dom no errors.
[01:12] <cntb> tyvm Jucato  folowing link  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[01:12] <unix_infidel> Jucato: the wiki out of sorts currently.
[01:12] <intelikey> dom checking /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[01:13] <Jucato> unix_infidel: yeah. I'm just showing cntb how long that channel has been existing and what usually happens in there
[01:13] <unix_infidel> :)
[01:14] <intelikey> dom no mention of guest nor of DenyUsers in /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[01:14] <cntb> pls dont laugh I need rotating nvidia view to see while lying and resting
[01:14] <dom> if you do "# chsh guest", what does it say the current shell is?
[01:14] <cntb> just like reading a book lying
[01:15] <intelikey> mksh
[01:15] <dom> wtf is mksh?
[01:15] <intelikey> improved korn shell
[01:15] <dom> oh
[01:16] <intelikey> i can login guest locally no problem.
[01:16] <intelikey> but ssh just says "You don't exist, go away!" and exits.
[01:17] <stephane_> hello
[01:17] <dom> hmm, then definitely something with the ssh setup.  and you say nothing comes up in auth.log?
[01:18] <intelikey> dom no not any error.
[01:18] <Vladdy> !mp3
[01:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:18] <intelikey> Dec 11 18:07:29 localhost login[1870] : (pam_unix) session opened for user guest
[01:18] <intelikey> by (uid=0)
[01:19] <dom> Vladdy,  I didn't see anything of use on those pages except "please use ogg or flac instead of mp3".
[01:19] <dom> intelikey,  pm me the pass?
[01:20] <intelikey> x
[01:20] <dom> hah
[01:20] <intelikey> it's a guest account.
[01:20] <intelikey> not privite really
[01:20] <dom> Guest@<removed>/guest/#
[01:20] <dom> I'm in just fine
[01:20] <intelikey> hmmm i wonder why i can't login locally ???
[01:21] <intelikey> i mean localhost over ssh.
[01:21] <dom> da, that doesn't make a lot of sense unless you have some weird netgroups setup or something like that
[01:21] <Vladdy> dom: just needed the link to get codecs working ;p
[01:22] <intelikey> i agree....
[01:22] <dom> oh, sorry, I wasn't paying attention
[01:22] <dom> don't mind me, I'm still hung up on the FLAC problem
[01:23] <intelikey> oh wait.  i know i setup rsa keys  then added the guest account and havent updated them.... i bet that's it.
[01:24] <Rob-West> how can i make frostwire go to the system tray when minimized
[01:25] <intelikey> yeah it's in the rsa keys somehow  cause all i get now is  'you don't exist go away!'   for all accounts from my normal users ssh attempts...
[01:25] <dom> there you go
[01:25] <cntb> need to rotate   nvidia
[01:26] <VSpike> How can I make standard X apps like audacity and xmms look a bit less hideous in KDE?
[01:26] <Vladdy> ugh.. great
[01:28] <cntb> rotating nvidia issue
[01:28] <cntb> http://weblog.jamisbuck.org/2004/3/26/rotating-nvidia-in-linux
[01:29] <wimpies> anybody around that can help me with some problems with edgy upgrade ?
[01:30] <dom> there's 317 here who can help, wimpies.  including ubotu
[01:30] <GNUro> wimpies: ??
[01:30] <dom> !upgrade
[01:30] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:30] <GNUro> :)
[01:31] <wimpies> well, first I get this error that mountnfs.sh tries to run bootclean.sh which no longer seems to exists.
[01:31] <wimpies> Second my KDM no longer automatically starts at bootup (i have to log in and start it by hand, then it works)
[01:31] <Rob-West> !automatix
[01:31] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:31] <Rob-West> !WorksForMe
[01:31] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:31] <GNUro> what is better qt4 or qt4-doc-kdecopy? why kde developer use a different version of qt4?
[01:32] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Dood!
[01:32] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yo! :)
[01:32] <GNUro> sorry qt4 or qt4-kdecopy?
[01:32] <wimpies> third, my konsole (not the GUI version) beeps like hell.  can I make it less loud
[01:32] <wimpies> fourth.  My networks does not start up automatically.  Again I have to run the ifup ifdown by hand then it works.
[01:33] <DaSkreech> Jucato: What do you know about the missing "go" menu?
[01:33] <wimpies> Finally, I have an external disk that does not want to mount on /media/external but always wants to mount on /media/external-1.  Again i have to mount the disk 'by hand' using mount /dev/sdb and then it mounts on the propper location.
[01:33] <Jucato> DaSkreech: what about it? it's not missing. Kubuntu hid it :P
[01:33] <wimpies> So ... (many) suggestions ?)
[01:34] <verzonnen> wimpies: short dirty for the mount could be to simlink the dirs....
[01:35] <wimpies> verzonnen : yes I know but I wonder why it tries to mount on -1 whereas fstab specifies external ?
[01:35] <Jucato> DaSkreech: follow the first part of these instructions to get the original menu back: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[01:35] <verzonnen> wimpies: set up your network in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:35] <Jucato> DaSkreech: take note you won't get the original profiles if you follow those instructions only. you need something special
[01:36] <verzonnen> wimpies: no idea why
[01:36] <wimpies> verzonnen : afaik it is setup . If i run ifup eth0 by hand, then it starts without a hitch
[01:36] <verzonnen> wimpies: well that is what I had to do
[01:36] <verzonnen> wimpies: there is a graphical intterface to do it as well
[01:38] <wimpies> the config I have ran perfectly before edgy.  Actually I also have a guarddog firewall config in there that complainse about not being able to resolve some addresses.  However the errors leave the network UP and rerunning the script causes the firewall to work and the second time without errors ???
[01:38] <verzonnen> yeah, just set up your network
[01:39] <verzonnen> wimpies: under system/network settings
[01:40] <wimpies> any idea how to make my PC-Beep more silent
[01:40] <mc__> wimpies: unplug it
[01:40] <Vladdy> modprobe -r pcspkr
[01:41] <kkathman> lol
[01:41] <Vladdy> destroy it ;P
[01:41] <wimpies> i said more silent not shut it up ;)
[01:42] <intelikey> wimpies aumix has an adj. for pc-speaker
[01:42] <intelikey> doesn't work on all motherboards tho.
[01:42] <GNUro> wimpies: in konsole?
[01:42] <wimpies> intelikey : yes that is it ... it was alsamixer ... does the value get saved ?
[01:43] <Vladdy> usually
[01:44] <intelikey> you can save it.
[01:44] <wimpies> intelikey : how ?
[01:44] <intelikey> alsactl store
[01:44] <intelikey> iirc
[01:45] <intelikey> in aumix store is the [S]  key
[01:45] <wimpies> ok
[01:45] <wimpies> rebooting to see if it restores to more decent values
[01:46] <intelikey> now i'm getting an error....   Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key
[01:46] <kerwonz> where can i download the packages for linux 2.6.18?
[01:46] <intelikey> i don't protocol version 1 disabled.   how to make the hostkey for that protocol ?
[01:46] <wimpies> ok sound is good now.
[01:46] <intelikey> dont   dont want
[01:47] <wimpies> Next, I get the error /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh : cannot open.
[01:47] <GNUro> night!
[01:47] <wimpies> I think this has to do with the upgrade to the bash replacement and some config scripts are not properly upgraded
[01:47] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Hmm interesting. hadn't even noticed there was a FAQ before
[01:47] <intelikey> cannot open what wimpies ?
[01:47] <Jucato> DaSkreech: :P
[01:47] <wimpies> intelikey : /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh
[01:48] <wimpies> it is run from mountnfs.sh
[01:48] <intelikey> ls -l  /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh
[01:48] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Always figure it's so easy why would you need one?
[01:48] <Jucato> haha
[01:48] <wimpies> mountnfs.sh is different on my desktop (without errors) than on my laptop.
[01:48] <Jucato> well apparently it's not *that* easy :)
[01:48] <wimpies> So I presume that the upgrade of initscripts was not run properly.
[01:48] <wimpies> How can i force reinstall reconfigure them ?
[01:49] <DaSkreech> You just recompile your kernel dependencies, Check your config files, maybe do that once or twice
[01:49] <verzonnen> rotflmao
[01:50] <thomas> hey doesn't kubuntu come with traceroute?
[01:50] <verzonnen> oops
[01:50] <mc__> thomas: tias?
[01:50] <thomas> mc__: what
[01:50] <mc__> thomas: try it and see
[01:50] <thomas> mc__: k one sec
[01:50] <thomas> mc__: command not found
[01:51] <thomas> mc__: "tias" in command prompt
[01:51] <DaSkreech> verzonnen: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/8ba2/
[01:51] <verzonnen> lol I was in the wrong window
[01:52] <DaSkreech> I surmised
[01:52] <LjL> thomas: there's tracepath
[01:52] <thomas> LjL: why not traceroute
[01:52] <LjL> ain't got a clue
[01:52] <thomas> LjL: isn't linux suppost to have it
[01:52] <verzonnen> cool t-shirt though
[01:52] <DaSkreech> thomas: deprecated
[01:52] <LjL> thomas: "linux" is a kernel, it's not supposed to have anything
[01:53] <kerwonz> ommm
[01:53] <DaSkreech> verzonnen: tell me about it. Don't ROTF2 Much :)
[01:53] <kerwonz> somebody can help me where  can i download the linux imagen 2.6.18?
[01:53] <kkathman> LjL:  thats a bit extreme :)
[01:53] <kkathman> haha
[01:54] <LjL> kkathman: well, if you don't count an embedded HTTP server and the coffee machine patch they're trying in the experimental branch, it's true
[01:54] <kkathman> rofl :)
[01:54] <kkathman> touche :)
[01:54] <BluesKaj> linux caffe
[01:55] <wimpies> is there any searchable kubuntu archive ?
[01:55] <mc__> wimpies: apt-cache search packagename
[01:55] <DaSkreech> LjL: Hey if they are embedding a web server at the kernel level they should have a Browser to test it. I bet noone has ever embedded a web browser into a kernel befo.......
[01:55] <mc__> wimpies: or type apt:/ in koqueror
[01:55] <wimpies> i meant mail-archive sorry
[01:57] <BGSteffens> hi :)
[01:58] <kkathman> HI BGSteffens
[01:59] <intelikey> ha i found the problem...
[01:59] <scorp007> does (k)ubuntu have opengl manpages? I have trouble finding them.
[01:59] <intelikey> i had changed my uid and hadn't yet owned my home....
[01:59] <scorp007> if not, is it planned for the next release?
[02:00] <BGSteffens> i want to change from winxp -> kubuntu.. but i have a new laser mouse which has driver software that does not support linux. but i'm used to the speed it gives me (higher than winxp's max).. is there any way to get a very very high mouse speed in kubuntu?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> scorp007: Ha ha I just got you. I thought you meant Beryled up manpages
[02:02] <kkathman> BGSteffens:  unlikely I'd say, because that's such an unusual device - but you might could Google for a driver
[02:02] <DaSkreech> scorp007: What do you mean openGL Manpages?
[02:02] <scorp007> DaSkreech: manpages for the OpenGL C API.
[02:03] <scorp007> just like we have standard C manpages...
[02:03] <DaSkreech> scorp007: We do?
[02:03] <BGSteffens> kkathman: thank you
[02:03] <kkathman> your welcome
[02:03] <kkathman> you're I mean
[02:03] <scorp007> DaSkreech: manpages-dev contains standard C manpages
[02:03] <DaSkreech> scorp007: In any case opengl has all the documentation you need on the site and you can hit up NeHe for examples
[02:03] <scorp007> when i was on suse, it had opengl ones, too.
[02:04] <scorp007> I'm aware of that, but I prefer manpages, like for C
[02:04] <scorp007> many distro's have them
[02:04] <scorp007> Fedora, Suse, at least.
[02:04] <kkathman> but opengl is a video standard right?  That shouldnt have anything to do with man pages
[02:04] <BGSteffens> kkathman: i'm fluent in C, think i could rig something up? >;D
[02:04] <scorp007> Its a standard for realtime graphics.
[02:04] <kkathman> BGSteffens:  great.. maybe you could do it, then package it for others :)
[02:05] <scorp007> kkathman: why does it not have anything to do with manpages?
[02:05] <BGSteffens> muhaha
[02:05] <kkathman> scorp007:  cuz it doesnt... man pages are just text files basically
[02:05] <scorp007> I'm aware. And opengl standard api is documented in them.
[02:05] <kkathman> suse does have a KDE/Gnome command that will display manpages in the GUI
[02:05] <scorp007> on most distros.
[02:05] <scorp007> why would I want that?
[02:06] <kkathman> ohh.. maybe you'd like to port it ??
[02:06] <scorp007> I don't know how to make packages...
[02:06] <scorp007> I was just surprised this distro didn't have them
[02:06] <kkathman> maybe it does and I just dont know about it
[02:06] <scorp007> or maybe it does, and I'm unaware
[02:06] <kkathman> lol
[02:07] <scorp007> unless someone can point me to a package?
[02:07] <dom> okay, here's another question for you all, when I open Konqueror in Edgy on my machine at home, if I go to /, it only shows me 4 folders: data (where I keep music etc), home, media, and windows (where my win xp partition is mounted).  where the heck are all the other folders, like, you know mnt and etc?
[02:07] <kkathman> do you know what the package was in SUSE or fedora?
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> dom: /.hidden
[02:07] <LjL> DaSkreech: indeed. i've found some hilarious hints to the possibility of an in-kernel browser on google, but nothing more
[02:07] <scorp007> I don't remember the exact one -- but I can try to find out the name
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> those are your root folders, they are hidden in ubuntu
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> you can still do like /etc/
[02:07] <kkathman> scorp007:  if you could, maybe we could search the repos
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> and you'll end up in /etc
[02:08] <manuleviking_> hi here !
[02:08] <dom> Admiral_Chicago, yeah
[02:08] <dom> so why bother, is it just to emulate Finder?
[02:08] <kkathman> scorp007:  you might begin by just apt-cache search opengl and see if anything pops up ?
[02:08] <DaSkreech> LjL: as long as it's called neptune :)
[02:08] <kkathman> thats about the only suggestion I might have
[02:08] <scorp007> kkathman: tried that.
[02:08] <DaSkreech> manuleviking_: Hi!
[02:08] <dom> cool, thanks Admiral_Chicago.  rm /.hidden fixed it :D
[02:08] <kkathman> scorp007:  be sure you have all the repos enabled, too :)
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> dom: the idea is most users don't need to see these files
[02:08] <manuleviking_> i have a problem with konqueror, it crashes when i want to view a 'google map' : http://www.ubuntu-fr.org/carte/
[02:09] <dom> any idea if that file gets regenerated on reboot or anything like that?
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> the average desktop users
[02:09] <scorp007> kkathman: I think i do.
[02:09] <kkathman> ahh ok
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> no idea. it's getting removed in feisty
[02:09] <manuleviking_> Is it a konqueror bug or google map problem ?
[02:09] <manuleviking_> ( sorry for my pretty bad english :) )
[02:09] <kkathman> manuleviking_:  it works fine for me in Konq
[02:10] <LjL> DaSkreech: the Grub project and the Links2 project should definitely start collaborating anyway :P
[02:10] <intelikey> ooops
[02:10] <DaSkreech> LjL: Why bother with the middle man?
[02:10] <dom> Admiral_Chicago,  well most users stick to "Documents" and their Desktop, so that seems a little redundant.  anyhow, I suppose I could create .hidden files anywhere in the filesystem?
[02:10] <manuleviking_> yes kkathman, but here konqueror crashes when i click on the users infos logo
[02:10] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Wrong X?
[02:11] <kkathman> ok let me try that manuleviking_
[02:11] <manuleviking_> kkathman:  you too ?
[02:11] <DaSkreech> LjL: Just get w3m and the Linux openBios project linked up
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> dom: i don't like tat system at all
[02:11] <intelikey> x?
[02:11] <manuleviking_> ok thank you kkathman
[02:11] <scorp007> what the hell? is this the same server as freenode?
[02:11] <scorp007> lmao
[02:11] <LjL> DaSkreech: alright, i don't think i can beat that :P
[02:11] <DaSkreech> dom: I think that's how it should work
[02:11] <LjL> scorp007: ....? yes
[02:11] <kkathman> manuleviking_:  which logo is it?
[02:12] <intelikey> DaSkreech on you mean button X   hehhe no console.   but wrong nick the first time.
[02:12] <manuleviking_> the ubuntu logo
[02:12] <kkathman> ahh ok.. let me try
[02:12] <manuleviking_> there are numerous ubuntu logos in the map
[02:12] <manuleviking_> *several logos
[02:12] <scorp007> haha, i ghosted myself, accidently...
[02:12] <kkathman> hmm I dont get a change there to click on manuleviking_
[02:12] <kkathman> ohhh those!!
[02:12] <kkathman> ok 1 sec
[02:13] <kkathman> manuleviking_:  yes it crashes for me also
[02:13] <DettoAltrimenti> if adept crashes and I can't open it, what processes should I kill besides adept to fix this? Also, how do I use the 'ps' command to show only processes with 'adept' in the name?
[02:13] <manuleviking_> ahh !
[02:13] <kkathman> lets try it in firefox eh?
[02:13] <intelikey> scorp007 you can recover a nick.  /msg nickserv help
[02:13] <manuleviking_> so you think this is a problem with google ?
[02:13] <manuleviking_> ok kkathman
[02:13] <scorp007> intelikey: na, its cool, I still own it, i just though UbuntuIRC and Freenode were 2 different servers...
[02:14] <manuleviking_> or a bug in the javascript implementation of konqueror
[02:14] <intelikey> :)
[02:14] <kkathman> manuleviking_:  looks like its a konq thing, as Firefox seems to bring up the reference bubble
[02:14] <DaSkreech> LjL: Though iff we extend Guidance to start up with the power supply ......
[02:15] <manuleviking_> kkathman: it's works fine with firefox :(
[02:15] <kkathman> yes
[02:15] <manuleviking_> yes
[02:15] <kkathman> unknown what that might be actually
[02:15] <kkathman> but it does the same thing for me
[02:15] <intelikey> now what's the name of the file for rsa keys    host side ?      /etc/ssh/???
[02:16] <intelikey> ssh_known_hosts    is that it ?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> DettoAltrimenti: ps aux | grep adept
[02:16] <intelikey> pgrep adept
[02:16] <DaSkreech> intelikey: No
[02:16] <manuleviking_> i have problems with 'ajax' websites again too with konqueror, but i can't remember them
[02:16] <intelikey> DaSkreech ?
[02:17] <manuleviking_> maybe konqueror's html engine is not for this thing ?
[02:17] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | DettoAltrimenti
[02:17] <ubotu> DettoAltrimenti: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:17] <DaSkreech> id_[dsa, rsa] 
[02:17] <DaSkreech> intelikey: ^^^
[02:17] <intelikey> DaSkreech server side ?
[02:17] <intelikey> not client side...
[02:17] <DaSkreech> eh?
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Oh
[02:18] <DaSkreech> intelikey: What are we trying to do?
[02:18] <intelikey>  /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts     i think is what i want.
[02:18] <intelikey> to make the server accept my rsa key
[02:18] <DaSkreech> passwordless login?
[02:18] <intelikey> yeah
[02:19] <DaSkreech> copy your id_rsa.pub to the server
[02:19] <DettoAltrimenti> is there a way to see which process is using a certain file?
[02:19] <DaSkreech> cat id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorizedkeys
[02:19] <intelikey> DaSkreech where on the server ?   in the home dir ?
[02:19] <intelikey> shurely you jest...
[02:20] <DaSkreech> of the user you want to login as
[02:20] <DaSkreech> No I josh actually
[02:20] <wimpies> It seems my KDM is not starting my X server. kdm_config seems to hang around forever
[02:20] <intelikey> that sounds very insecure.....
[02:21] <intelikey> so a client can configure the server without any admin access at all....
[02:21] <intelikey> and they call that secure shell...
[02:22] <DaSkreech> intelikey: What?
[02:22] <DaSkreech> You have to be able to login and have access to the folder
[02:22] <DaSkreech> So... yeah it's as secure as you need it to be
[02:23] <DaSkreech> Anyone on KDE4 now?
[02:23] <DaSkreech> DettoAltrimenti: lsof
[02:25] <DaSkreech> intelikey: How insecure is it?
[02:27] <wimpies> Guys, my KDM really does not want to start ... need some help here.  I just see kdm and kdm_config but no GUI. also I see no X server
[02:27] <intelikey> just don't seem right that anyone that one time accesses the server should be able to configure it to allow passwordless access from anywhere....
[02:28] <intelikey> all one would need to do is copy their key to anther box and   ba-da-bing....
[02:28] <intelikey> but i guess thats secure in the sense that you have to gain access one time....
[02:29] <jpiccolo> hey guys, what kernel does ubuntu 6.10 come with?
[02:29] <intelikey> 2.6.17
[02:29] <Vladdy> intelikey: it's not that hard.. just boot off a cd and whoop.. you can change passwords on ubuntu..
[02:30] <Vladdy> once you have physically access it's not hard to root it..
[02:30] <intelikey> Vladdy don't need a cd for that.
[02:30] <intelikey> i'm not talking hands on
[02:30] <intelikey> i'm talking ssh
[02:30] <intelikey> remote access
[02:31] <Vladdy> openssh-server is disabled by default..
[02:31] <Vladdy> for reasons like that
[02:31] <intelikey> i would never have guessed.....
[02:31] <DaSkreech> wimpies: What's the problem?
[02:32] <wimpies> well I reboot. kdm does not start and I see kdm and kdm_config running in my console.
[02:32] <intelikey> you mean because ubuntu uses the root jr.  methood of adminestering the box they thought it a bad idea to setup ssh as a default way to root the thing.... no!
[02:32] <DaSkreech> I still thin there should be a I need help button that turns on SSH for a helpme account
[02:32] <wimpies> If I kille them and run /usr/bin/kdm by hand  i get the same result.  After a while
[02:33] <wimpies> the X server starts up (I see a 'x' cursor) but no kdm.
[02:33] <DaSkreech> wimpies: After a while?
[02:33] <wimpies> say 1 minute or so
[02:33] <DaSkreech> have you checked the X logs?
[02:33] <DaSkreech> or the KDm logs?
[02:34] <Vladdy> intelikey: at the moment you know what ssh does you're wise enough to enable it ;p else it's best disabled anyway..
[02:34] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm
[02:34] <wimpies> yes ( I ran it in debug 255) but see nog error
[02:34] <wimpies> running xinit works like a charm
[02:38] <RoboMoore> !wireless
[02:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:38] <DaSkreech> wimpies: so KDM is the issue?
[02:38] <wimpies> DasKreech : I also get the error 'X server startup timeout, terminating' on kdm
[02:39] <wimpies> DaSkreech : yes ... X seems fine (except for this timeout message but running xinit works)
[02:40] <DaSkreech> did you make any changes?
[02:40] <wimpies> yes I ran an dapper -> edgy upgrade
[02:40] <DaSkreech> What happens if you just run X
[02:41] <wimpies> It looks as if some config files did not get replaced
[02:41] <intelikey> Vladdy "wise enough to enable it"   fool enough to advertize   startx
[02:41] <intelikey> ooops
[02:41] <intelikey> startx
[02:42] <intelikey> wimpies startx
[02:42] <wimpies> I get a personalizer window (running from root and never logged on as root)
[02:42] <wimpies> so again ... kdm
[02:43] <intelikey> wimpies did you try   startx  ?
[02:43] <wimpies> yes, startx gives kpersonalizer ...
[02:43] <intelikey> as it should
[02:43] <wimpies> so it MUST be kdm ... right ?
[02:43] <intelikey> so there seems to be nothing wrong with xorg   nor kde    it's  kdm     yes
[02:44] <intelikey> wimpies did you try      sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm
[02:44] <wimpies> trying ..
[02:44] <DettoAltrimenti> how do you see the files in the directory you're currently in (in the terminal)?
[02:45] <intelikey> ?ls
[02:45] <intelikey> ls
[02:45] <intelikey> i'm typoing plenty good now.
[02:45] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti ls      ls /path/to/list
[02:45] <DettoAltrimenti> and if I am looking for a certain command, is there something I can add to 'man' to search- like, to find all manuals with the word "files" in them?
[02:46] <wimpies> I get a login but it seems to have removed the 'themes' ?
[02:46] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti yeah  but it's generally easier to ask what command
[02:46] <intelikey> wimpies yes that command would totally reset kdm  to the default
[02:47] <DettoAltrimenti> I'm trying to mount a device... if it's plugged into the usb, where will it show up? it's an external harddrive
[02:48] <velle_> Ubuntu can be run as a live cd, is it possible to do this without any harddrive, floppe or usb pen etc?
[02:48] <wimpies> ok reinstalled kubuntu-default-settings and rebooting to see ...
[02:48] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti generally the device will be a  sd?   i.e. /dev/sda     and the mountpoint if it automounts is in /media/sd*
[02:48] <velle_> and is it possible to install programs in a session with no hd?
[02:49] <intelikey> velle_ yes it is.
[02:49] <intelikey> velle_ and yes it is.
[02:49] <DettoAltrimenti> nevermind- I figured it out!
[02:50] <wimpies> intelikey : nope it did not work.  I got a login with proper themes, rebooted and again ... nothing
[02:50] <velle_> intelikey: thanks
[02:50] <DettoAltrimenti> can xmms play video files?
[02:51] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti terminal command     sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1          assuming the device and the mountpoint.
[02:51] <intelikey> i think so.   vlc can.
[02:51] <intelikey> velle_ np
[02:51] <wimpies> just did a stop of kdm and then a start and now I get the login.  restart did not work
[02:52] <intelikey> wimpies sounds like the theem may be buggy....   i don't like kdm anyway   because it uses /root
[02:53] <RoboMoore> !islsm_usb
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about islsm_usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <DaSkreech> DettoAltrimenti: nope
[02:53] <intelikey> xmms cant ?
[02:53] <noobie_> why dowsnt kubuntu ask you to set root password during install.   if already setup can it be changed?
[02:54] <DaSkreech> DettoAltrimenti: try apropros
[02:54] <DaSkreech> DettoAltrimenti: or man -k
[02:54] <intelikey> noobie_ there is no root password.
[02:54] <RoboMoore> !flashdrive
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <DaSkreech> !root noobie_
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root noobie_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <DaSkreech> !root | noobie_
[02:54] <ubotu> noobie_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:54] <intelikey> you can set one.   but default ubuntu systems have no root password.
[02:55] <noobie_> thnx
[02:55] <intelikey> i personally don't like the 'root jr.' approach.
[02:55] <DettoAltrimenti> is it generally better to open programs using the terminal?
[02:56] <intelikey> it generally doesn't matter unless you are needing to debug.
[02:56] <wimpies> intelikey : wierder  still.  I waited after a reboot till all disk activity was gone presset ALT-F7 and then ALT-F6 and got the kdm login !!
[02:56] <RoboMoore> !wmv
[02:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <DettoAltrimenti> does konqueror have macromedia flash compatibility
[02:58] <DaSkreech> wimpies: What display is it running on?
[02:58] <DaSkreech> !flash
[02:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:59] <wimpies> DasKreech : it seems the one under F6
[02:59] <intelikey> wimpies not so odd if init or that is to say upstart is doing something that would focus the monitor on another tty while x is starting.      what is odd about it is that kdm didn't reset the display 3-5 times.....   oh wait that's after you login.... anysum
[02:59] <DaSkreech> wimpies: can you look in /etc/inittab and tell me if you see a spawn getty for tty6?
[02:59] <wimpies> just a sec ...
[03:00] <intelikey> DaSkreech why would that matter ?
[03:00] <DaSkreech> Although I honestly have no idea how upstart works with inttab
[03:00] <intelikey> DaSkreech kdm is hard coded to tty 7
[03:00] <wimpies> checking filesystem
[03:00] <DettoAltrimenti> daskreech- from what that says, it seems like firefox can play flash videos, but konqueror can't- is that right?
[03:00] <DaSkreech> DettoAltrimenti: if firefox then konqueror can
[03:01] <DaSkreech> they use the same plugin
[03:01] <DettoAltrimenti> oh got it
[03:01] <verzonnen> What happened to /etc/inittab noe on my stystem........
[03:02] <verzonnen> none*
[03:02] <intelikey> upstart
[03:02] <intelikey> that's what happened to it   upstart.
[03:02] <noobie_> why wont kubuntu read rpms?
[03:02] <intelikey> cause it's debian based not redhat based.
[03:03] <noobie_> oh
[03:03] <DaSkreech> !rpm
[03:03] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:04] <noobie_> ahh i will leave it alo0ne then
[03:04] <intelikey> !.deb
[03:04] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[03:04] <DaSkreech> noobie_: What were you trying to install?
[03:04] <DaSkreech> can I open OO over ssh?
[03:06] <wimpies> DasKreech : I have getty's on 1-6
[03:06] <intelikey> but i don't think the inittab is being read by upstart anyway wimpies
[03:07] <intelikey> that's all completely irrelivent cause kdm is hard coded to start on tty7      in dapper anyway.  i doubt they fixed it.
[03:07] <wimpies> rebooted and got KDM immediately ... perhaps it remembers some 'default' ?
[03:08] <wimpies> When the 7 does not come up and I press ALT then the console immedately switches to 1 (without pressing F1) pressing F7 then switches to kdm ...
[03:09] <wimpies> however have to sleep now (03:00 AM) here ... so ... nitynite
[03:09] <DaSkreech> nite
[03:10] <verzonnen> Any one know why there is no /etc/inittab  in the new version of kubuntu?
[03:10] <intelikey> it a console issue   possable frame buffer related.    try booting with     vga=0x0f05     on the kernel line and see what happens
[03:10] <verzonnen> well at least no on my system
[03:10] <intelikey> verzonnen i told you three times  upstart   is the reason.
[03:11] <verzonnen> what is upstart?
[03:11] <intelikey> man upstart
[03:11] <intelikey> !upstart
[03:11] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:11] <verzonnen> No manual entry for upstart
[03:12] <intelikey> figures....   ubuntu is all but docless....
[03:12] <DaSkreech> How doi open a x client here?
[03:12] <intelikey> DaSkreech ?
[03:12] <DaSkreech> do I have to set DISPLAY or can I pass --display to it?
[03:12] <DaSkreech> intelikey: I want to open a X app on my machine over shh
[03:13] <intelikey> depends on the app  most accept either  --  or -   display
[03:13] <verzonnen> thanks intelikey, and please next time can you specify the name when you reply to my question
[03:13] <verzonnen> intelikey: make my live a lot easier and I like easy
[03:14] <cameuh> hi, i'm a bit disappointed by the kubuntu installer, how I do configure LVM for my partitions?
[03:15] <dom> okay, nother question for the channel.  I've recently noticed that Konqueror doesn't handle XML pages that use XSLT.  they just come up and a bunch of plain text.  like: http://overholt.ca/wp/?feed=rss2&p=63  (compare w/ Firefox for what it is supposed to look like).  is there something I can do to "enable" XSLT handling?
[03:17] <phobiac> Cameuh: I don't know much about LVM, but I do know theres an option to create the partitions with it while installing. You might need to go into expert mode to be given that option though, not sure. I know on the ubuntu live cd's you type "expert" at the command prompt the live cd gives you to install that way.
[03:18] <intelikey> dom  i heard that the reason is that the code is broken and depends on a broken rendering to display propperly....    if that is the case, then there is nothing you can do to konqueror short of breaking it, that will fix that.
[03:18] <intelikey> that is hear say.
[03:18] <dom> "Woo!  I like destruction!"  - Gir
[03:18] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:19] <cameuh> phobiac: ok, i'll try to find that expert mode, tnx
[03:19] <cameuh> btw i wonder how you live without lvm :p
[03:20] <phobiac> cameuh: no problem man. If it weren't for me recently having to fix up my LAMP server I probably wouldn't have even remembered.
[03:20] <intelikey> cameuh i wonder why people use partitions   so i guess we're even.
[03:20] <phobiac> What exactly is LVM anyway?
[03:21] <intelikey> !lvm
[03:21] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:21] <phobiac> I look into those.
[03:21] <phobiac> If I happen to like what I see how easy is it to move from LVM to partitions without destroying all your data?
[03:22] <DaSkreech> intelikey:know anything about ssh -Y ?
[03:22] <cameuh> you have to repartition your drive so a big backup is at least required
[03:22] <intelikey> DaSkreech no..
[03:22] <verzonnen> phobiac: whatever you do you'd have to backup your data
[03:23] <intelikey>      -Y      Enables trusted X11 forwarding.  Trusted X11 forwardings are not
[03:23] <intelikey>              subjected to the X11 SECURITY extension controls.
[03:23] <phobiac> Hmm, I'll have to experiment with it on my junk computer and see if it's worth backing up my HD for it.
[03:24] <verzonnen> phobiac: for home lvm is a pain in the backside
[03:24] <intelikey> i turned off x11 forwording here ;/
[03:24] <dom> -Y is the devil.  you may need -X to enable forwarding but if that doesn't work, then likely something is horribly horribly wrong and you should *not* be using -Y to work around it
[03:24] <DaSkreech> intelikey: How?
[03:24] <phobiac> verzonnen: LVM isn't really for home computer use?
[03:24] <intelikey> DaSkreech in the sshd_config
[03:25] <DaSkreech> ok
[03:25] <islsm_usb> !wireless
[03:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:25] <islsm_usb> anyone know where I am? <<
[03:25] <DaSkreech> dom: -X gives me /usr/bin/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/alteroo/.Xauthority
[03:25] <DaSkreech> islsm_usb: No Shut up and take the Red Pill
[03:25] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:25] <verzonnen> phobiac: why bother with it, I believe in "keep it simple stupid", just so I can cope ......
[03:26] <islsm_usb> DaSkreech: meanie :/ I can't find this silly item on my linux system woo!
[03:26] <DaSkreech> islsm_usb: I would hazard a guess that you are in front of your computer
[03:26] <dom> DaSkreech,  that's a filepermissions/ownership error (usually).  try removing the .Xauthority and then shelling in again
[03:27] <islsm_usb> DaSkreech: I have 2 ya know ;)
[03:27] <DaSkreech> dom: same error
[03:27] <phobiac> islsm_usb: You're in the kubuntu help channel on the freenode irc server right now. Although I'm sure that's obvious.
[03:27] <dom> is this a network mounted home dir, DaSkreech?
[03:27] <islsm_usb> phobiac: the item
[03:28] <DaSkreech> dom: Nope Just on a computer over <---- there
[03:28] <islsm_usb> where is "islsm_usb"
[03:28] <DaSkreech> someone else is using it so I wanted to work over here
[03:28] <DaSkreech> islsm_usb: try /whois islsm_usb
[03:29] <dom> DaSkreech,  if you give ssh a -v or two, then that might give you a more useful error.  so try ssh -vX user@host and see if anything in there helps
[03:29] <intelikey> hehhe and  /exec -o pwd
[03:29] <scorp007> is it possible to manually install manpages?
[03:29] <islsm_usb> !wusb54g
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wusb54g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <intelikey> scorp007 manually as in without dpkg ?
[03:29] <DaSkreech> dom: I get an error message of Wrong Authentication
[03:29] <intelikey> actually yes.
[03:30] <intelikey> in /usr/share/man/*
[03:30] <islsm_usb> First remove islsm_usb then remove and add back ndiswrapper
[03:30] <islsm_usb> ugh
[03:30] <islsm_usb> where is it?
[03:30] <DaSkreech> dom: PM?
[03:30] <intelikey> or /usr/local/share/man/*    but thats generally a symlink to the first.
[03:32] <scorp007> hmmm
[03:32] <scorp007> what format are the pages suppose to be in?
[03:32] <scorp007> I have a bunch of color.3gl sort of files
[03:32] <scorp007> *.3gl
[03:34] <DaSkreech> dom: I get X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
[03:35] <dom> btw, for those that were wondering, XSLT just isn't implemented in khtml
[03:35] <dom> wrong auth?  connection to localhost is b0rk3n?
[03:35] <dom> hmm
[03:36] <dom> I don't know off the top of my head
[03:36] <cameuh> i think i downloaded the wrong cd image, there is even no lvm command on this one
[03:37] <DaSkreech> I assume that X should be able to speak to each other across versions
[03:37] <Rob-West> how come Kubuntu is showing everying in Metric
[03:38] <DaSkreech> dom: should $DISPLAY be null?
[03:38] <phobiac> cameuh: The lvm option for me was on an ubuntu cd, and it was the LAMP server one. Maybe it's different for the two iso's?
[03:39] <dom> DISPLAY should be set automagically, generally
[03:39] <dom> null is definitely not right
[03:39] <DaSkreech> Soooo should I set it if not?
[03:39] <Rob-West> i want Imperial units not metric
[03:39] <dom> no, you really shouldn't.  unless X has been started on a display by something else
[03:39] <Rob-West> i told it i live in America
[03:40] <DaSkreech> dom: Well it has. I just said that someone is over there using the machine
[03:40] <DaSkreech> I don't want to wait on them so I'm Xtunneling
[03:40] <jpiccolo> would anyone be able to help me with my network card
[03:41] <cameuh> phobiac: maybe
[03:41] <Rob-West> brb
[03:41] <Rob-West> gonna log off
[03:41] <dom> heh, don't use 0:0 unless you want to piss off the person at that computer then ;)  (I don't think you would be able to anyhow, generally, 0:0 is not shared)
[03:41] <phobiac> !server
[03:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[03:42] <phobiac> cameuh: Hmmm, if you're desperate enough you could always get the ubuntu iso, use that to partition the drive, then uninstall uneeded packages and install the ones you do want.
[03:42] <cameuh> phobiac: i'm installing a desktop and i want kde
[03:42] <DaSkreech> dom: Well I'm passing it my computer's IP
 -display <ip>:0.0
[03:43] <DaSkreech> or just :0
[03:43] <jpiccolo> anyone know what module i need for a realtek 8201
[03:43] <cameuh> phobiac: the drive is already partitionned, but kubuntu doesn't read it
[03:43] <phobiac> cameuh: its not too hard to go from gnome to kde. i started out with an ubuntu cd at first and decided to try out kde, then got rid of gnome when I decided kde was better.
[03:43] <DaSkreech> which should give it my computer and my current display
[03:44] <phobiac> cameuh: not too sure how to help you out there. :/
[03:44] <cameuh> and i don't want to hack the whole stuff, i just want kubuntu on lvm
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> cameuh: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <intelikey> phobiac i see no reason 'nome and kde can't coexist
[03:44] <DaSkreech> cameuh: have you tried the alternate Cd?
[03:44] <cameuh> no
[03:45] <phobiac> intelikey: Me either, kde is just a preference.
[03:45] <intelikey> but i would use/recomend kde in place of kubuntu-desktop
[03:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i think that maybe be what you want
[03:45] <phobiac> I'm hard drive space stingy, that's the only reason I got rid of gnome. :D
[03:45] <intelikey> des-quatro
[03:45] <cameuh> ok, let's reading a bit of website doc first :)
[03:46] <DaSkreech> !fluxbuntu > phobiac
[03:46] <dom> DaSkreech,  I hate to ask this, but is X running on your machine?
[03:46] <DaSkreech> dom: Yup
[03:47] <igalmarino> hi i need a kde ftp client
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Which I assume is on :0.0
[03:47] <DaSkreech> !ftp
[03:47] <igalmarino> any recomendation ?
[03:47] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[03:47] <dom> igalmarino,  konqueror is your friend
[03:47] <igalmarino> ok
[03:47] <igalmarino> thanks
[03:48] <dom> sorry, DaSkreech, I gotta go.  if I think of an answer, I'll pop back in
[03:48] <DaSkreech> dom: aight
[03:49] <cameuh> DaSkreech, Admiral_Chicago: tnx for pointing me to the alternate CD
[03:49] <jpiccolo> i am having a hard time getting my network card up
[03:49] <Admiral_Chicago> no problem
[03:49] <DaSkreech> jpiccolo: Well you are on now
[03:49] <DaSkreech>  it's not that bad :)
[03:49] <phobiac> DaSkreech: I've tried fluxbuntu too. It just wasn't right for me.
[03:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i should go to bed and stop helping people
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> i haven't slept in 36 hours
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> and i have a major test tomorrow
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> night all
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Bye
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Don't come back for 36 hours!
[03:50] <intelikey> i wonder why ncftp is not in that list ?
[03:50] <jpiccolo> yeah, 6.10 is not seeing my network card
[03:50] <phobiac> Night man
[03:51] <DaSkreech> jpiccolo: did you try a depmod -a
[03:52] <jpiccolo> still nothing after restarting network
[03:53] <lore_> pova
[03:56] <verzonnen> nite all
[04:00] <kai> I have a devel questuion
[04:00] <kai> what is better mySql or sql2000
[04:01] <bgsteffens> hi everyone :) i'm in kubuntu for the first time, on the test-off-the-cdrom
[04:02] <bgsteffens> can anyone tell me if this http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html driver will work on kubuntu?
[04:02] <kai> where else can i go for Edutainment programs for Kunbuntu
[04:03] <Jucato> !kdeedu
[04:03] <ubotu> kdeedu: educational apps from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 68 kB
[04:03] <kai> I dont want the whole desktop I just want to browse the packages for it
[04:04] <Dr_House> i need a good podcasting/podcatching client
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: :-)
[04:04] <Jucato> kai: put this in Konqueror: apt:/show?kdeedu
[04:04] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech
[04:05] <DaSkreech> Dr_House: Podcatching?
[04:05] <intelikey> is there any good way to chmod with input format        drwxr-xr-x dirname       ?
[04:05] <bgsteffens> no one can tell me if http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html driver will work with kubuntu?
[04:05] <Dr_House> sorry 'bout that.  miss type
[04:06] <kai> Jucato: Thanx
[04:06] <DaSkreech> intelikey: hwat?
[04:06] <intelikey> !ati | bgsteffens
[04:06] <ubotu> bgsteffens: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:06] <bgsteffens> thank you :o)
[04:06] <Jucato> kai: the ones listed in the "Depends" are the kdeedu (KDE Educational apps) packages
[04:07] <DaSkreech> Jucato: up for som SSh X tunneling? :)
[04:07] <intelikey> DaSkreech ls -l blah  it gives perms in  "drwxr-xr-x"  format    is there any good way to use that output as input for chmod ?
[04:07] <DaSkreech> Jucato: No It's the X tunnelling that's the important part
[04:08] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Gimme a better example
[04:08] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no nothing about that either :(
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Blast :)(
[04:09] <intelikey> ls -l /etc > list.file     ; for Q in `cat list.file | cut -d' ' -f1 ` ;do chmod $Q blah ;done     and i know that's incomplete.
[04:10] <DaSkreech> YOu want to chmod it back to itself?
[04:10] <intelikey> well actually it's all 000  atm....
[04:10] <intelikey> :)
[04:10] <intelikey> so yeah.
[04:11] <DaSkreech> ....
[04:11] <DaSkreech> so you want to take the results from one system and apply to your 000 system?
[04:11] <intelikey> that's the idea.
[04:12] <noobie_> i noticed graphics run slower in linux than in windows is this because of a graphics configuration error or is it just assembly vs c?
[04:12] <intelikey> same system actually...  but details are irrelevent.
[04:12] <noobie_> i was running ut2004
[04:12] <DaSkreech> noobie_: ATI card?
[04:13] <noobie_> no actually onboard graphics
[04:13] <jpiccolo> would installing with noapic cause my network card not to work?
[04:13] <noobie_> mind you ut2004 runs fast in windows
[04:13] <intelikey> but what card noobie_ ?
[04:13] <noobie_> intel extreme
[04:13] <noobie_> onboard graphics
[04:13] <intelikey> hmmm idk.
[04:13] <bgsteffens> will kubuntu run a lot faster when installed on my machine instead of running off cdrom?
[04:13] <noobie_> 845 series
[04:13] <Jucato> bgsteffens: definitely
[04:14] <intelikey> bgsteffens yep
[04:14] <bgsteffens> :)
[04:14] <bgsteffens> i like kubuntu so far
[04:14] <Jucato> absolutely, certainly, surely
[04:14] <intelikey> sho'nuf
[04:15] <jpiccolo> what does noapic mean durning the install
[04:15] <ubuntu> holas
[04:15] <ubuntu> disculpen
[04:15] <ubuntu> saven acabo de instalar kubuntu
[04:16] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Language?
[04:16] <intelikey> ok i'm not very versed in using letters in chmod.   someone give me an example syntax for say setting perms to  751  using letters  ?
[04:16] <ubuntu> pero no me reproduse los mp3
[04:16] <ubuntu> afsdasdfasdfads
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | ubuntu
[04:16] <ubotu> ubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:17] <intelikey> !es
[04:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:17] <DaSkreech> !es | ubuntu
[04:17] <ubotu> ubuntu: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:18] <bgsteffens> wow, already connected to my win2003 fileserver
[04:18] <intelikey> anyone ?
[04:20] <scorp007> is it possible to install the manpages in this tar file? ftp://ftp.sgi.com/opengl/doc/mangl.tar.Z
[04:20] <scorp007> they have a strange suffix
[04:20] <intelikey> .Z is probably pkzip format
[04:20] <bgsteffens> ok all, i'd better install kubuntu now :D:D:D thanks for help
[04:21] <intelikey> use unzip on them
[04:21] <intelikey> then you can gzip or bzip2 as you like.
[04:23] <Wiesel-> Where is the samba folder by default?
[04:23] <intelikey> !samba
[04:23] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:23] <fignew> Wiesel: Home directory if any at all
[04:24] <scorp007> no, i mean that the contents inside have a strange suffix, i did unzip them
[04:24] <Wiesel-> Well, where is the config file more specifically?
[04:24] <fignew> ohh
[04:24] <fignew> /etc/samba/
[04:24] <fignew> that or /etc/smb
[04:25] <intelikey> ok i'm not very versed in using letters in chmod.   someone give me an example syntax for say setting perms to  751  using letters  ?
[04:25] <scorp007> what's wrong with numbers?
[04:25] <fignew> though like ubotu said, the best way to admin is either with the built in KDE tools, or the SWAT interface
[04:25] <intelikey> the input i have is letters
[04:26] <intelikey> so you don't know either.... ok.   anyone else ?
[04:26] <aseigo> 751 is rwxr-x-x
[04:26] <intelikey> i know but that's not the syntax
[04:26] <aseigo> r=4, w=2, x=1
[04:27] <aseigo> ah...
[04:27] <intelikey> what would the the command look like ?
[04:27] <aseigo> chmod a+rwx
[04:27] <DaSkreech> aseigo: he wants a script to convert them I guess
[04:27] <aseigo> would give you the first 7
[04:27] <aseigo> er, u=
[04:27] <scorp007> no
[04:27] <scorp007> yes
[04:27] <aseigo> etc...
[04:27] <aseigo> g=rx would give you the 5
[04:27] <aseigo> a=x would give you the 1
[04:27] <aseigo> u=user, g=group, a=all (everyone)
[04:28] <intelikey> so chmod u+rwx g+rx a+x blah     ?
[04:28] <aseigo> or o=
[04:28] <aseigo> if you only want to affect the third octet
[04:28] <aseigo> o=x
[04:28] <DaSkreech> intelikey: o ==o thers
[04:28] <fignew> chmod a+x u+rw g+r
[04:28] <aseigo> you'll want = not + if you're trying to change the file
[04:29] <aseigo> since if u already has exec, then u+rw will give you u=rwx
[04:29] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:30] <aseigo> and not to sound like a total unix dink, but `man chmod` has all of this .. probably in the first few paragraphs =)
[04:30] <aseigo> actually, here... open konqi and do man:chmod in it. yay! an on-topic gui-relevant suggestion! much less unix-dink-like =)
[04:30] <aseigo> well, perhaps only slightly less ;)
[04:30] <DaSkreech> aseigo: would you happen to have a few X tunneling tips? :-)
[04:30] <aseigo> DaSkreech: via ssh?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Yup
[04:31] <fignew> ssh -X -C
[04:31] <intelikey> k i think i got it.    i'll parse out the 2-4 chars and use them with o+  and 5-7 will be g+ and 8-10 a+    and tr -d '-'  the thing.
[04:31] <fignew> -C for compression :)
[04:31] <fignew> doh
[04:31] <aseigo> one hop out of the home firewall and one hop into the company firewall
[04:31] <fignew> that's X
[04:31] <DettoAltrimenti> question: in the windows version of Firefox, if you type "wp france" in the address bar, it goes to the wikipedia article 'france.' is there any way I can make the linux version of firefox do this?
[04:31] <aseigo> and we wondered why they hated ssh ;)
[04:31] <vontux> any experience w/ ntfs removable usb drives in here
[04:31] <intelikey> let me test i'll get back to ya with the working code.
[04:31] <fignew> ntfs on thumbdrive?
[04:32] <aseigo> DaSkreech: what are you trying to do exactly?
[04:32] <fignew> vontux: is it an external harddrive of thumbdrive?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Well someone >was< at the machine over there <------
[04:32] <fignew> or*
[04:32] <vontux> fignew: external hd
[04:32] <Hobbsee> hey aseigo
[04:32] <aseigo> DettoAltrimenti: use konqi =) wp:france ;)
[04:32] <DaSkreech> and I wanted to work on OO so I sshed in set DISPLAY exported and tried to run it
[04:32] <aseigo> DettoAltrimenti: but yeah, there's probably a firefox extension somewhere
[04:32] <DaSkreech> No go at all
[04:32] <fignew> ok, just making sure you were sane ;)
[04:32] <DaSkreech>  been 4 hours now
[04:33] <fignew> should mount read only automatically
[04:33] <malik__> hi guyz.............any one knows abt any good mp3 player besides amarok?................speciaslly with  cool looking GUI?
[04:33] <aseigo> DaSkreech: is it just sitting there as if it is starting up?
[04:33] <vontux> fignew: how about mounting as writable?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> nope
[04:33] <aseigo> malik__: juk, noatun, xmms. pick your poison
[04:33] <fignew> vontux: it's risky (or so I've heard)
[04:33] <aseigo> DaSkreech: what did you get when you ran the command?
[04:33] <fignew> you could loose data
[04:33] <fignew> lose*
[04:34] <aseigo> malik__: cool looking GUI's are amazingly overrated compared to actually accomplishing stuff though ;)
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Damn
[04:34] <vontux> fignew: I know, but I use ntfs-3g on non-removable media and it works fine
[04:34] <DaSkreech> hold on let me log out of the box
[04:34] <malik__> LOLz...........good one
[04:34] <Jucato> speaking of gui's... plasma....???
[04:34] <vontux> fignew: do you know about removable media/
[04:34] <fignew> vontux: try a manual mount command
[04:34] <aseigo> Hobbsee: yo
[04:34] <fignew> vontux: in terminal
[04:35] <vontux> fignew: I want to mount w/ ntfs-3g, not regular mount
[04:35] <malik__> amarok is givin me creeps....................it wont add my mp3z...........n now im sounding like a broken record............coz guyz at amarok ch wont respond
[04:35] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Bloody hell Forget it works now
[04:35] <fignew> vontux: yes, you would specify that as the filesystem
[04:35] <fignew> vontux: or you can edit /etc/fstab
[04:35] <vontux> fignew: so specify the filesystem as "ntfs-3g"
[04:35] <fignew> should work
[04:35] <vontux> fignew: editing fstab doesn't seem to work for the removable medi
[04:35] <vontux> *media
[04:35] <aseigo> malik__: on kubuntu? you probably need to add libxine-extracodecs
[04:36] <aseigo> DaSkreech: it just wanted you to talk to us
[04:36] <aseigo> malik__: did you install that yet?
[04:36] <aseigo> malik__: if not, you won't get any mp3 support from anything that uses xine
[04:36] <DaSkreech> aseigo: I've been talking for a while. I guess logging in physically gave me rights to the .Xauthority
[04:36] <aseigo> ok. it wanted you to talk to me then ;)
[04:36] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[04:37] <DaSkreech> DISPLAY is still localhost:10
[04:37] <DaSkreech> Must be:)
[04:37] <fignew> vontux: something like mount -o ntfs-3g /dev/ice /mnt/pnt
[04:37] <malik__> i have libxine-extracodecs along with libmad0 n all the other stuff. strnage thing is it has all the mp3 in files tab but wont add em in collection tab when scanning for mp3z it will brk down
[04:38] <fignew> DaSkreech: is X fowarding enabled in the sshd config?
[04:38] <malik__> hallelujia..........................i finally figured it
[04:38] <malik__> im dancing man
[04:38] <DaSkreech> fignew: ALl I did was logout of the remote machine locally and it worked magically
[04:38] <fulat2k> hi folks, anyone here using the acx111 driver which comes with feisty?
[04:38] <Jucato> malik__: finally? :)
[04:38] <malik__> yesssssssssssssssssssss
[04:39] <aseigo> malik__: what was it?
[04:40] <malik__> Jucato:; as per ur suggestion i added mp3z bit by bit as i have abt 32 gig of em plus i took out the mix media files like wma n real media n video clips out which were there
[04:40] <jpiccolo> how would i go about getting a lan card to work?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> It's one notch above XDMCP in coolness
[04:40] <fignew> SSH tunneling is without a doubt one of my favorite things about Linux
[04:40] <fignew> well.. SSH in general
[04:40] <Jucato> malik__: kool. glad my suggestion helped (a bit...) :P
[04:41] <malik__> what is ssh tunneling?
[04:41] <DaSkreech> malik__: opening an application (GUI Like) from another machine on your machine over ssh
[04:41] <malik__> now i can fetch n add all the lyrics of my collection...................yum yum
[04:42] <fignew> DaSkreech: no, there's more than that
[04:42] <fignew> it's hard to explain quickly
[04:42] <malik__> so its equal to XPz remote desktop sharing i suppose?
[04:42] <fignew> nono
[04:42] <fignew> 1 sec
[04:43] <DaSkreech> malik__: Nope cooler by far :)
[04:43] <fulat2k> http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/winhelp/32/Tunneling_Explained.html
[04:43] <fulat2k> :D
[04:43] <fignew> thankyou fulat2k
[04:43] <fulat2k> np
[04:43] <fignew> there's X fowarding and SSH tunneling
[04:44] <fignew> so I can ssh to a remote computer behind a firewall
[04:44] <jpiccolo> well i guess its time to toss out the onboard nic
[04:44] <fignew> and tell it to link a remote host to a local host on my computer
[04:44] <vontux> fignew: in mount at least for ntfs-3g, "-o" option is depreciated, use "-t" instead
[04:44] <jc> hey i am a first time user of linux,  does any one hav any of advice on how i should start learning?
[04:45] <fignew> so when I wen to 127.0.0.1:12345 it could go to the remote host 192.168.0.5:21
[04:45] <fignew> jc: setup a webserver
[04:45] <vontux> aseigo: start w/ live-cd's go to "www.knoppix.net"
[04:45] <fignew> vontux: I'm old school ;)
[04:45] <vontux> aseigo: that is how I got started
[04:45] <DaSkreech> jc: figure out what you want to  do then do it
[04:45] <vontux> fignew: hehe, I'm almost still noob school :p
[04:45] <DaSkreech> and don't stop till you accomplish it
[04:46] <aseigo> vontux: hehe...
[04:46] <fignew> so true DaSkreech (for me that was setting up a webserver)
[04:46] <fulat2k> jc: what would you like to use it for at the end of the day?
[04:47] <jc> well i mean just as a regular operating systerm
[04:47] <jc> but everything uses a command
[04:47] <vontux> aseigo: are you using ubuntu right now, and if so, on your hd, or are you using it on a live-cd?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> jc do that then
[04:47] <DaSkreech> jc: how did you login here?
[04:47] <aseigo> vontux: kubuntu. laptop and desktop
[04:47] <jc> i just clicked on konversation
[04:48] <fulat2k> jc: that's great :P
[04:48] <intelikey> ok it can be done.
[04:48] <DaSkreech> There you go. Everything doesn't have a command :-)
[04:48] <DaSkreech> or as we say here a kommand
[04:48] <vontux> aseigo: the way I learned about linux was first by studying the structure of unix, then I combed and participated in the forums on my first distro, knoppix whenever I had a specific question
[04:48] <intelikey> DaSkreech what doesn't have a kommand ?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> I just installed Redhat 4
[04:48] <DaSkreech> intelikey: everything
[04:48] <jc> lol yeah thats tru but i mean i was trying to update my amarok 2 use mp3 but i dont know what to do
[04:48] <intelikey> *
[04:48] <intelikey> :)
[04:49] <aseigo> vontux: good way to go about it
[04:49] <intelikey> the command for everything would be      *
[04:49] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | jc
[04:49] <ubotu> jc: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:49] <Jucato> lol
[04:49] <jontec> hey, guys. Okay... I'm looking at a file that says that I can define a rails app (basically we're looking at a directory) with the apache2 directive <VirtualHost *>. I am conjecturing that this maps to all paths into the server... how can I change it so that apache2 maps the app to a certain directory. For instance... in my first example lets say it mapped to www.foo.com... how could I set the rails app to map to www.foo.
[04:49] <DaSkreech> intelikey: I thought it was /usr/bin/42
[04:49] <Jucato> scotch must be getting to you aseigo :)
[04:50] <jontec> oh, btw... #apache is not being helpful... at ALL. T_T
[04:50] <aseigo> Jucato: yep =)
[04:50] <jc> but i mean that is helpful but i stil want to be able to manuver through linux like you guys ;)
[04:50] <DaSkreech> jc: trust me on this. Everyone does it the way they want to :)
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> !skype
[04:50] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:51] <aseigo> jc: just takes time. =) best part is, you never learn it all. there's always SOMEthing more to find out =)
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Just use it and after about a month the basics will be apparent and you can do what you like
[04:51] <jc> great advice thanks
[04:51] <vontux> aseigo: I thought you mentioned that you were a first time linux user
[04:51] <vontux> aseigo: I must have read wrong
[04:51] <DaSkreech> jc: though you may want to watch out for the hidden file system in konqueror :)
[04:51] <Jucato> vontux: aseigo is a kde developer :)
[04:52] <DaSkreech> aseigo: That's probably the first time you've been accused of that :)
[04:52] <fulat2k> DaSkreech: do you mean hidden FS or hidden files??
[04:52] <aseigo> DaSkreech: hehe =)
[04:52] <DaSkreech> hidden FS
[04:52] <Jucato> aseigo: guess you're not popular enough heheh :)
[04:52] <aseigo> vontux: np =)
[04:52] <aseigo> Jucato: nope.
[04:52] <aseigo> Jucato: i'll work harder at it =P
[04:52] <DaSkreech> he'll find out about hidden files in time
[04:52] <vontux> aseigo: hehe my bad, I kinda don't read through chat rooms so well sometimes
[04:52] <DaSkreech>  assuming jc is a male :)
[04:53] <aseigo> vontux: pfft.. it's cool. i hardly care. =) it's good to know there are people who are friendly in the channel though. important to the success of things like kubuntu
[04:53] <jc> what kind of hidden file system?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> down with market dominance:)
[04:53] <jc> and yes i'm male lol
[04:53] <jontec> I'm important to the success of things like kubuntu. :D
[04:53] <intelikey> !hidden | jc
[04:53] <ubotu> jc: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:54] <DaSkreech> jc: Linux/Unix has a particualr way to keep files. Konqueror hides some of this to make things simpler
[04:54] <aseigo> jontec: you got it =)
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Jucato: has there been a classroom on FHS ?
[04:54] <Jucato> DaSkreech: none that I remember
[04:54] <fulat2k> kewll... learn something new :)
[04:54] <jc> oooh
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Shame could have thrown him the notes
[04:55] <malik__> is  there any project which is working on building extensions for konqi ?.............. coz i miss opera..............pitty it doesnt work properly on linux
[04:55] <DaSkreech> !opera
[04:55] <fignew> I don't mind the hidden folders in konq... I always do all my system stuff in the command prompt anyways
[04:55] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[04:55] <fignew> Opera runs fine
[04:55] <jc> see the problem i was having why i came into this chat also is that none of the mp3 files play
[04:55] <DaSkreech> fignew: I  am just so used to typing them in that I don't see it
[04:55] <DaSkreech>  honeslty if someone took away my mouse I wouldn't notice for days
[04:55] <jc> they show up in amarok but with in 2 secs it says the playlist is done
[04:55] <DaSkreech> It's behind my monitor now
[04:56] <fignew> but what type of extensions are are you talking about malik__
[04:56] <fignew> ?
[04:56] <DaSkreech> jc: did you read the link ubotu just sent you
[04:56] <malik__> like mouse gestures .................n skins
[04:56] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > jc
[04:56] <malik__> im very new to linux
[04:56] <malik__> i have taken a plunge by ditching win xp
[04:56] <malik__> abt a wk ago
[04:56] <jc> yes
[04:57] <DaSkreech> malik__: we'll try to make it so that you don't have to reinfect yourself
[04:57] <Cueball|Laptop> !mp3 > Cueball|Laptop
[04:57] <malik__> LOLz.............that wud b gr8
[04:57] <jpiccolo> i will pay someone to get my network card working
[04:57] <DaSkreech> jc: and you didn't see how to install mp3 support?
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Which network card?
[04:57] <fignew> jc: mp3 drivers can't legally be distributed with kubuntu
[04:57] <jc> i did that already
[04:57] <jpiccolo> Realtek RTL8201CL PHY- Integrated 10/100 transceiver.
[04:58] <jpiccolo> thats from the manuf site
[04:58] <jc> i installed them last week
[04:58] <jc> a friend showed me how
[04:58] <DaSkreech> jc: and they worked before?
[04:58] <jc> no
[04:58] <DaSkreech> jpiccolo: Good bet they weren't installed properly then :)
[04:58] <fignew> malik__: no skins, but the icons can be changed if you change the KDE icons
[04:58] <DaSkreech> jc: do you have multiverse turned on?
[04:58] <malik__> i have realtak card n it was detected automatically by linux
[04:58] <jc> i think so
[04:59] <DaSkreech> jc: do you know pastebin?
[04:59] <jc> no
[04:59] <DaSkreech> !pastebin
[04:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <jpiccolo> mine wasn't its one of these micro boards
[04:59] <DaSkreech> jpiccolo: and it's never worked for you?
[04:59] <jpiccolo> no, new system
[04:59] <fignew> malik__: also, mouse gestures can be enabled: http://en.opensuse.org/Konqueror_Tips_and_Tricks
[05:00] <DaSkreech> did you search  for it on google.com/linux ?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> jc: see it?
[05:00] <jpiccolo> yeah, closes i have gotten was someone saying that they cant get a realtek card to work, then they do, but dont say how
[05:00] <jc> i am checking it out now
[05:01] <jc> yeah i see it
[05:01] <DaSkreech> ok press alt+f2
[05:01] <malik__> fignew: i know abt konqi gestures but they are not easy to use unlike opera
[05:01] <DaSkreech> and type in kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:01] <DaSkreech> it should open a file in a text editor
[05:01] <jc> yes it did
[05:01] <DaSkreech> ok now to teach you something cool :)
[05:02] <jc> lol
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Highlight the entire text with the mouse
[05:02] <jc> ok
[05:02] <DaSkreech> go to the pastebin and press the middle mouse button over the text area
[05:03] <aseigo> mmb rocks
[05:03] <Jucato> mmb to close tabs?
[05:03] <jc> the middle mouse buttin?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:03] <jc> :S
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Do you have a scroll wheel?
[05:04] <jc> no
[05:04] <jc> i am using a laptop
[05:04] <Jucato> I think you can set X to emulate a 3 button mouse, right?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> jc: does it have a trackpad?
[05:04] <jc> yes
[05:04] <DaSkreech> ok press the two buttons at the same time
[05:04] <jc> :O
[05:04] <jc> wow lol
[05:05] <DaSkreech> ha ha :-)
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Ok send that and give us the URL that pastebin gives you
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Press Alt+Ctrl+V
[05:05] <DaSkreech> that shows you  a history of things you have copied so you can go and get something that you copied recently
[05:06] <DaSkreech> then Middle mouse button (or two buttons together) pastes it
[05:06] <jc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36561/
[05:07] <DaSkreech>  Hmm
[05:07] <DaSkreech> jc: close the text editor
[05:07] <jc> ok
[05:07] <DaSkreech> reopen it as before but with kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <Rob-West> how can i modify what the login screen looks like
[05:08] <jc> done
[05:08] <intelikey> Rob-West kdm ?
[05:09] <Rob-West> yea
[05:09] <fignew> Rob-West: System Settings... Splash screen
[05:09] <intelikey> there is a kmenu entry
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Ok look for the line deb http://bs.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:09] <intelikey> and one can edit the config if they are brave
[05:09] <DettoAltrimentii> does anyone know where the 'direct rendering' option is in VLC player preferences?
[05:10] <jc> i c it
[05:10] <DaSkreech> jc:  add a space and the word multiverse after it
[05:10] <DaSkreech> do the same on the line below it
[05:10] <Rob-West> no thats not it
[05:10] <Rob-West> i wanna change where u type ur password and user name in
[05:10] <jc> ok
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Save :-)
[05:11] <intelikey> sed 's/ main.*/ main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -ve'#' | sort -u > ~/sources.list
[05:11] <jc> it said i cudnt save it
[05:11] <DaSkreech> why?
[05:11] <knapp> in kde, what are the hotkeys to switch desktops?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> knapp: Ctrl+F<n>
[05:12] <jc> some thing about write acces
[05:12] <intelikey> ctrl+left/right   works to  or used to
[05:12] <kkathman> knapp whatever you want them to be
[05:12] <DaSkreech> jc: you had reopened it with the command kdesu kate ?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> not just kate?
[05:12] <jc> oh where do i go 2 find taht
[05:12] <jc> that*
[05:13] <intelikey> if you run that line you have a new sourses.list  ^
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Alt+F2
[05:14] <DaSkreech> It should ask you for a password
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Assuming your friend didn't hook you up :)
[05:14] <kkathman> knapp:  I dont think there is a default for them defined standardly in edgy
[05:15] <kkathman> at least there wasnt on my install
[05:15] <intelikey> it seems the easiest way is to convert the letters to hex and chmod the right way.
[05:15] <jc> now what
[05:15] <DaSkreech> you added in multiverse?
[05:15] <kkathman> I just set them to be ctrl-alt-left and right
[05:15] <DaSkreech> and saved?
[05:15] <jpiccolo> what does noapic mean when installing
[05:15] <DaSkreech> kkathman: Hmm where have I heard that combo before>
[05:15] <kkathman> apic - advanced power
[05:15] <DaSkreech> jpiccolo: Is it a laptop?
[05:15] <jpiccolo> no
[05:15] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  prolly in compiz or beryl
[05:16] <DaSkreech> or metacity
[05:16] <kkathman> I dont use it
[05:16] <DaSkreech> jc: saved?
[05:16] <jc> when i pressed alt+f2 it said run command
[05:16] <jc> but it didnt alow me 2 save
[05:16] <jpiccolo> i am reading stuff and it seem fedora gets it to work, i am going to try fedora core 5 and see
[05:16] <intelikey> jpiccolo apic is a cpu thing  you can google for that   and noapic means that the kernel will not use apic
[05:16] <kkathman> but if you check the KDE settings DaSkreech after install, there arent keys defined
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Right and you typed in kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:16] <knapp> ty
[05:16] <DaSkreech> kkathman: Ctrl+F<n> always works for me
[05:16] <jpiccolo> ok
[05:16] <kkathman> metacity doesn transcend to KDE3.5.5
[05:17] <jc> ok its ok it saved now
[05:17] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  yep for particular desktops...but to go to the next or previous you need to set that up
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Ah point taken
[05:17] <kkathman> at least that was the way it was when I migrated
[05:17] <kkathman> its all good man :)
[05:18] <DaSkreech> jc: do you know how to use apt-get or are you more comfortable with adept?
[05:18] <jc> yeah i know how 2 use it in kommand
[05:18] <DaSkreech> jc: ok lets have fun
[05:18] <jc> konsole*
[05:18] <DaSkreech> jc: Alt+space
[05:18] <intelikey> jpiccolo the kernel accepts several commandline arguments    noapic nofb nodevfs(or is that one devfs=nomount...)   and so on.
[05:18] <DaSkreech> and type adept
[05:18] <DaSkreech> then press enter
[05:19] <jpiccolo> ok i was just wondering because it makes me type that in
[05:19] <jpiccolo> and there was no man pages about it
[05:19] <jc> done
[05:19] <intelikey> jpiccolo as well as init options  like which runlevel to start in   what vga settings to use....
[05:19] <DaSkreech> password and open it
[05:19] <jc> done
[05:19] <DaSkreech> press reload
[05:20] <DaSkreech> should get a bunch of lines running by
[05:20] <intelikey> jpiccolo i saw a doc on kernel commandline arguments one time... i don't have a url for it though.
[05:20] <Jucato> reload? you're confusing it with Synaptic :p
[05:20] <jc> lol
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Fetch Updates
[05:20] <DaSkreech>  sorry :)
[05:20] <jc> lol
[05:20] <jc> no prob
[05:20] <DaSkreech> I still say both should be bound to F5
[05:20] <boris``> i need some help with automatix
[05:20] <Jucato> heh
[05:21] <DaSkreech> I always press it :-(
[05:21] <jc> after this i stil have ONE last problem
[05:21] <malik__>    oi guyz i pressed Alt+space  n something popped out named katapult.................what is it?
[05:21] <jpiccolo> you explained it well enough, i just wanted to make sure it wasnt something to do with networking
[05:21] <jc> finished
[05:21] <intelikey> f5 is paste
[05:21] <Jucato> malik__: it's a launcher
[05:21] <intelikey> don't mess with my f keys.
[05:21] <DaSkreech> once it's done type in extracodecs in the search bar and tell me if it shows anything
[05:21] <Jucato> intelikey: in what world?
[05:21] <intelikey> mc
[05:21] <malik__> boris``: what do u need?
[05:22] <Jucato> the rest of the world doesn't use it, besides, it's on a per-app basis, isn't it? :)
[05:22] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you can always set Adept to use F5 as a shortcut key to Fetch Updates :)
[05:22] <jc> libxine-extracodecs?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:22] <intelikey> Jucato yeah   you didn't take that seriously did you ?
[05:22] <jc> but only one
[05:22] <DaSkreech> does it say not installed?
[05:22] <jc> yeah it says not intsall
[05:22] <jc> install*
[05:23] <DaSkreech> ok click install and then apply changes
[05:23] <Jucato> intelikey: no. did you take mine seriously? :P
[05:23] <intelikey> yeah man sure.  i always do.
[05:25] <intelikey> well most always
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I know I did already
[05:25] <intelikey> well sometimes i do
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Just when I'm using live Cds I forget
[05:25] <intelikey> :)
[05:25] <Jucato> often? rarely? :)
[05:25] <intelikey> yeah
[05:25] <Jucato> bye guys. lunch :P
[05:25] <malik__> boris``: do u need help to install automatix?
[05:25] <kalel> asd
[05:25] <DaSkreech> jc: close amarok!
[05:25] <kalel> hola
[05:25] <intelikey> actually pretty often Jucato
[05:25] <intelikey> but not always...
[05:25] <kalel> como instalo amsn
[05:25] <intelikey> :)
[05:25] <kalel> alguien ayudeme
[05:25] <kalel> por favorrr
[05:25] <kalel> amsn   helpppppppppppppppppppp
[05:25] <intelikey> !es | kale
[05:25] <ubotu> kale: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:25] <jc> it worked:D
[05:25] <DaSkreech> jc: Well duh :)
[05:25] <jc> thanks
[05:25] <malik__>   !automatix
[05:25] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:25] <kalel> hola, alguien me puede auidar a instalar
[05:25] <kalel> amsn
[05:25] <kalel> por favor
[05:25] <DaSkreech> jc: Next problem
[05:25] <intelikey> !es > kalel
[05:25] <DaSkreech> !es | kalel
[05:25] <ubotu> kalel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:25] <kkathman> its so much easier to just follow the wiki
[05:26] <malik__> help with installing a webcam on kubuntu and also setting up my tv tuner card?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> kkathman: The wiki should have a note to make sure that people don't enable backports
[05:26] <jc> well i recently downloaded winamp (because i couldnt use the mp3) and i couldnt open it up
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Which everyone seems to do and think they have multiverse
[05:26] <intelikey> !amsn | kalel
[05:26] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[05:26] <kalel> me hace falta
[05:26] <kalel> g++
[05:26] <kalel> y gcc
[05:26] <DaSkreech> jc: Well you don't need it now unless you like shoutcast
[05:26] <kalel> pero no se como
[05:26] <kalel> ponerlos
[05:26] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  agreed
[05:27] <malik__> DaSkreech: help with installing a webcam on kubuntu and also setting up my tv tuner card?
[05:27] <DaSkreech> !b-e > kalel
[05:27] <DaSkreech> !webcam
[05:27] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:27] <jc> how do i run different installations for the future
[05:27] <intelikey> grrrr !b-e kalel
[05:27] <intelikey> DaSkreech you beet me to that one.
[05:27] <kalel> ???
[05:27] <kkathman> malik__:   try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=webcam&titlesearch=Titles
[05:27] <kkathman> hehe
[05:27] <kalel> grrr be????
[05:27] <kalel> q???
[05:28] <malik__> yea i did follow that link n nothin happened instead my tv tuner cards colorful line appeared as my web cam
[05:28] <intelikey> !b-e | kalel
[05:28] <ubotu> kalel: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:28] <intelikey> looks like he don't know where the msg tab is.
[05:28] <DaSkreech> jc: different installations?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> kalel: espanol?
[05:29] <jc> yeah because i tried install an .exe file and i cudnt
[05:29] <DaSkreech> jc: Well a) install functionality
[05:29] <jc> huh?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> So as we said before figure out >what< you want to do and get it to work
[05:30] <DaSkreech> apps aren't as important as getting something done
[05:30] <DaSkreech> b)
[05:30] <rich_> hi
[05:30] <DaSkreech> !wine | jc
[05:30] <ubotu> jc: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:30] <rich_> hi
[05:30] <DaSkreech> hi
[05:30] <intelikey> lo
[05:30] <DaSkreech> mid
[05:30] <rich_> how r u???
[05:30] <DaSkreech> i r 2 fine
[05:30] <intelikey> i 2
[05:31] <intelikey> n u
[05:31] <DaSkreech> !u > intelikey
[05:31] <intelikey> !botabuse > DaSkreech
[05:31] <D_dog> is it possible to have your nick validated automatically when you log in..i am using xchat
[05:31] <intelikey> :)
[05:31] <intelikey> yes it is
[05:32] <DaSkreech> jc: basically I'm saying don't try and think of an application you need. Think of what you want to do and try get to that
[05:33] <DaSkreech> If you MUST have an application though try wine
[05:33] <jc> ok i wanted 2 use msn messenger
[05:33] <jpiccolo> pens are not good at picking up pickels
[05:33] <intelikey> jc amsn
[05:33] <DaSkreech> jc: I take it you tried kopete ?
[05:33] <jpiccolo> msn messenger ouch
[05:33] <jc> yes lol
[05:34] <DaSkreech> And you can't logon or you just prefer MSn
[05:34] <DettoAltrimenti> whenever I reboot, kubuntu always saves which windows/programs are open... is there any way I can close it all, then start a new session?
[05:34] <jc> i just prefer msn
[05:34] <jpiccolo> close all the windows before you reboot
[05:35] <abattoir> DettoAltrimenti: yeah, you need to turn off Session Restore
[05:35] <DaSkreech> jc: try amsn. I can't promise anything though
[05:35] <abattoir> DettoAltrimenti: edgy?
[05:35] <intelikey> kcontrol    or right click the desktop and configure it to start with a new sesson
[05:36] <jc> ok i used adept and i set amsn 2 install and i applyed changes
[05:36] <jc> it downloaded and everything but now i dont know where to find it
[05:36] <DaSkreech> alt+f2
[05:36] <jc> i went to internet already and its not there
[05:37] <intelikey> jc you may have rushed it.   it should show up in the menu.
[05:37] <jpiccolo> goto terminal and type amsn
[05:37] <jc> it did
[05:37] <jc> thank you every
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Heehee :-)
[05:37] <jc> gracias a todos
[05:38] <intelikey> grassy... never mind....
[05:38] <DaSkreech> toad as.. never mind
[05:38] <jpiccolo> if my nic works in fedora i should be able to find out how to get it to work in ubuntu, right?
[05:38] <DettoAltrimenti> abattoir: no, dapper
[05:38] <DaSkreech> jpiccolo: I suspect so. What kernel is fedora using?
[05:39] <abattoir> DettoAltrimenti: System Settings->KDE Components->Session Manager
[05:39] <jpiccolo> not sure, installing it now
[05:39] <intelikey> or    kcontrol    or right click the desktop and configure it to start with a new sesson
[05:39] <abattoir> DettoAltrimenti: select Start w/ an empty session
[05:39] <jpiccolo> 6 mins to go, or it says
[05:39] <jc> yeah i'm sory it is todas
[05:39] <jc> lol
[05:41] <malik__> if he is installin fedora 5 then i think it will be 2.6.15
[05:41] <jpiccolo> yeah its 5 i know that, i got it awhile ago
[05:41] <DettoAltrimenti> thanks abattoir
[05:42] <DaSkreech> jpiccolo: Why not 6?
[05:42] <jpiccolo> i had 5 on cd
[05:42] <intelikey> a fedora is a hat ya know....
[05:42] <malik__> then ur kernel versionb wud b i think 2.6.15 but after u update it it , it will become the lates what ever it might be
[05:42] <DaSkreech> malik__: Fedora can do that?
[05:42] <abattoir> DettoAltrimenti: you're welcome :)
[05:42] <malik__> yes
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:43] <DaSkreech> it one ups suse then
[05:43] <intelikey> of course fedora can do that....
[05:43] <malik__> i used it for a wk or so n loved it coz of it GUI but multimedia setup is total pain
[05:43] <seven11> help need the package name for patition tool (format,resize...)
[05:44] <jpiccolo> gnome partition editor
[05:44] <intelikey> fdisk mke2fs parted
[05:44] <jpiccolo> gparted thats it
[05:44] <malik__> fedoraz GUI is better than any linux i have seen so far but for what i do with it i like kubuntu better. i tried ubuntu too but didnt like it too much
[05:45] <seven11> qparted thanks
[05:45] <jpiccolo> yeah i like kde better
[05:45] <seven11> me 2
[05:46] <DaSkreech> jc: So any other pressing questions?
[05:46] <malik__> pitty that stanton finley didnt write installtion notes for fedora 6
[05:46] <intelikey> as often as i start a gui(haven't today.) i don't know what any of them look like.
[05:47] <jpiccolo> so your old school cli
[05:47] <jc> no i'm good
[05:47] <intelikey> no new skool cli
[05:47] <jpiccolo> ic
[05:48] <jpiccolo> rebooting
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Mouse enabled CLI :)
[05:48] <DettoAltrimenti> im getting an error about input device 169- can I somehow see what input device that is?
[05:48] <jpiccolo> lets see if the network works
[05:48] <intelikey> i used to say i had to have a gui.... 4/5 years ago....
[05:48] <intelikey> DaSkreech yessir
[05:48] <malik__> do i have to install new kernel when it comes out manually inkubuntu or it will update it with apt-get  or adept?
[05:49] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti it's wacom
[05:50] <malik__> plus when fiesty  comes out how do we update without setting all the customisation on fire?
[05:50] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti you can delete/comment out all three wacom sections in /etc/X11/xorg.conf      (assuming you don't actually have any wacom device that is erroring)
[05:50] <DettoAltrimenti> intelikey while running beryl I get a 'failed to open device' error for input device 169- do you know what the problem is?
[05:50] <intelikey> upgrade doesn't do that malik__
[05:51] <DettoAltrimenti> intelikey video will not play while I have beryl running too- I thought it may be related?
[05:51] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti yes it's wacom input devices in the xorg.conf      as to the vidio that i don't know.
[05:51] <intelikey> i do all my vidio watching in the console   gui skipps....
[05:52] <jpiccolo> scrolling ascii
[05:52] <intelikey> no
[05:52] <intelikey> just like tv
[05:53] <intelikey> well better rez...
[05:53] <DaSkreech> aalib ?
[05:53] <intelikey> jpiccolo console frame buffering in the kernel
[05:53] <intelikey> DaSkreech ^
[05:53] <DaSkreech> I watched the World cup through aalib at work
[05:54] <malik__> when i boot edgy it shows word generic next to the kernasl version ...........whast does that mean?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> It means it will figure out SMP or non SMP I think
[05:54] <intelikey> yeah and arch to some degree
[05:55] <intelikey> it means you have a generic kernel
[05:55] <intelikey> :)
[05:55] <malik__> so how do i make it smp?.......
[05:55] <intelikey> by having two processors in the box...
[05:56] <intelikey> :)
[05:56] <malik__> well i have hyperthreading thingy
[05:56] <malik__> n when i installed fedora it installed smp kernel...............so i was wondering with one is correct
[05:57] <intelikey> !smp
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <malik__> :)
[05:58] <malik__> aaaaaaaaaah n one more thing how do i save documents in koffice?.....it wont let me save word files ..............keeps asking for location of a file to open instead of letting me save it
[05:58] <intelikey> ubotu i is me neither.
[05:58] <intelikey> !i
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <kkathman> I wonder if kubuntu will offer a 2.6.18 kernel soon ?
[05:59] <intelikey> malik__ where are you trying to save it ?
[05:59] <kkathman> since suse has moved that way
[06:00] <malik__> how do i save documents in koffice?.....it wont let me save word files ..............keeps asking for location of a file to open instead of letting me save it
[06:00] <intelikey> malik__ where are you trying to save it ?
[06:00] <malik__> any thing in word
[06:00] <malik__> it wont let me
[06:00] <jpiccolo> nope fedora dont work with my nic either
[06:00] <jpiccolo> what the hell
[06:01] <intelikey> malik__ "where" are you trying to save it ?     where is a location  not a format....
[06:01] <malik__> when it asks if i wanna save it n i press save then next it asks me to open the location of file instead of letting me type the name for that file n save it
[06:01] <malik__> home directory
[06:02] <intelikey> ok...
[06:02] <intelikey> that was like pulling teeth.
[06:02] <intelikey> malik__ do    ls -ld $HOME
[06:02] <intelikey> in the konsole....
[06:03] <intelikey> what does it say ?
[06:03] <malik__> drwxr-xr-x 20 malik krmalik 4096 2006-12-12 16:03 /home/malik
[06:04] <malik__> thats what came out
[06:04] <intelikey> ok   you should be able to write there
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Night all!
[06:04] <Jucato> bye DaSkreech!
[06:04] <intelikey> malik__ if you type in the name you want to save it to what happens ?
[06:05] <intelikey> gooday DaSkreech
[06:05] <malik__> it aks me to open the location of the file
[06:05] <malik__> instead of savin it
[06:05] <ubuntu> my system is broken is there a way to browse my files and record it on cd so i can do a fresh install?
[06:05] <intelikey> yes and ?
[06:05] <malik__> which is weird considerin that im trying to save one noty open one
[06:06] <abattoir> malik__: i don't think kword (atleast on kubuntu) has the word export plugin
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Hey. I'm DA sKreech!!
[06:06] <abattoir> malik__: it can only import word(.doc) files
[06:06] <Jucato> :P
[06:06] <SeyToN> anybody?
[06:06] <SeyToN> my system is broken is there a way to browse my files and record it on cd so i can do a fresh install?
[06:07] <malik__> yes it can save in word format it shows word xp file type in the file types menua
[06:07] <malik__> the prob is its not savin in any format.............any thing
[06:07] <intelikey> SeyToN no  you don't do that to do a fresh install  you just install  it will insist on formatting the root partition.
[06:07] <abattoir> SeyToN: you can use a live cd to retrieve the data...
[06:07] <abattoir> SeyToN: but it depends on how broken your system is
[06:07] <SeyToN> i am using a live cd atm
[06:08] <SeyToN> but i can see my files...
[06:08] <abattoir> SeyToN: hmm, you have another optical drive?
[06:08] <SeyToN> no just 1
[06:09] <Red-Sox> I'm installing Kubuntu right now, right.
[06:09] <abattoir> SeyToN: hmm, you can backup all those data in one partition, and reinstall(and not format that partition during reinststallation)
[06:09] <Red-Sox> So, does my config carry over from the Live CD
[06:09] <Red-Sox> after the install is done
[06:09] <intelikey> no
[06:09] <Red-Sox> Crap
[06:09] <SeyToN> ohh well looks like i have to do a partitions then
[06:10] <intelikey> Red-Sox you can copy things over before you reboot  but there is no default saving process....
[06:10] <Red-Sox> okay
[06:11] <Red-Sox> How do I disable this annoying bouncy-thingy that follows the cursor when an app is opening?
[06:11] <intelikey> Red-Sox but the fstab will be writen...  if that's what you mean.
[06:11] <intelikey> Red-Sox it's in kcontrol.... everything k is in kcontrol.
[06:12] <intelikey> look&feel mouse busy-cursor    iirc...
[06:12] <intelikey> Red-Sox you know what linux users do don't you ?
[06:13] <Red-Sox> ...
[06:13] <intelikey> they install software.    :)
[06:13] <Red-Sox> :P
[06:13] <Jucato> Red-Sox: KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback
[06:14] <Jucato> (Alt+F2, "kcontrol")
[06:14] <Red-Sox> Ahah
[06:14] <Red-Sox> thanks
[06:14] <seven11> i have an old xp partition ntfs and would like to format this part in fat32
[06:14] <flaccid> and burn gates balls
[06:14] <seven11> how do i do this
[06:14] <intelikey> ok so i didn't get the names right....
[06:14] <flaccid> !qtparted > seven11
[06:14] <Jucato> at least you got the app right, intelikey :P
[06:15] <intelikey> seven11 mkfs.vfat /dev/device
[06:15] <seven11> no all the part are locked
[06:15] <flaccid> or use system settings |disk & filesystems
[06:15] <Red-Sox> WOAH BOY
[06:15] <Red-Sox> my kicker just disapeered...
[06:15] <flaccid> seven11: run under root using sudo
[06:15] <intelikey> sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hda1   assuming hda  and first partition.
[06:15] <Red-Sox> okay we're good
[06:16] <flaccid> intelikey: i like to help in gui unless asked for cli :)
[06:16] <intelikey> ok that's good.
[06:16] <intelikey> you do that.  but don't ask me to.
[06:16] <intelikey> :)
[06:16] <flaccid> just that its a desktop OS
[06:16] <intelikey> it's linux !
[06:16] <flaccid> see thats 1 of the problems...
[06:17] <Jucato> it's GNU/Linux if you want to be picky :P
[06:17] <flaccid> thats what linux *used* to be, intelikey
[06:17] <Jucato> Linux != CLI anymore
[06:17] <seven11> thanks flaccid
[06:17] <Red-Sox> btw, I'm completely wiping windows for this!
[06:17] <flaccid> i agree Jucato
[06:17] <intelikey> Jucato hehhe it never did
[06:17] <flaccid> excellent
[06:17] <flaccid> npz seven11. can i have a slurpee now?
[06:17] <Jucato> intelikey: in your mind, it does :P
[06:17] <intelikey> Jucato linux == the kernel
[06:17] <flaccid> hes talking in more general terms, intelikey
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> !intel
[06:17] <Jucato> linux == a name
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <T3hWiz0rd> how do you get intel 3d support?
[06:18] <Jucato> if yah all wanna be picky
[06:18] <T3hWiz0rd> !3d
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <flaccid> i don't see the point in developing gui frontends if support asks users to do cli :)
[06:18] <intelikey> Jucato what did smoke while on break ???
[06:19] <T3hWiz0rd> !i740
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i740 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <Jucato> intelikey: run that sentence by me again, this time with correct grammar?
[06:19] <Red-Sox> where do you set keybard shortcuts?
[06:19] <T3hWiz0rd> Red-Sox: the 13 year old
[06:19] <kaatil> i ate grammar for dinner.
[06:19] <Jucato> Red-Sox: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts if you're on Edgy
[06:19] <T3hWiz0rd> Red-Sox: is it you?
[06:20] <intelikey> Red-Sox kcontrol  ?
[06:20] <Red-Sox> yeah that's me T3hWiz0rd
[06:20] <Red-Sox> oh right intelikey
[06:20] <Jucato> Red-Sox: System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts if you're on Dapper
[06:20] <Red-Sox> T3hWiz0rd: fourteen*
[06:20] <Jucato> Red-Sox: KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts if you want to listen to intelikey
[06:21] <Red-Sox> danke
[06:21] <T3hWiz0rd> Red-Sox: ahh okay. How you doing?
[06:22] <Red-Sox> aight, T3hWiz0rd, you?
[06:23] <bulwynkl> problem... old version of kubuntu with entire archive/data I want back on 60 GB HDD LVM partition. booting new system disk I do not know how to mount the old disk (read only is fine) into the current system (dual boot NTFS-winXp/LVM-kubuntu
[06:23] <T3hWiz0rd> Red-Sox: good good
[06:23] <intelikey> flaccid actually; not that it needed qualifing, it's a lot easer to remember the cli commands than trying to keep up with five different gui's that have constantly changing ways to get the same results.  so if they don't specify a gui approach i generally tend to answer in what i know.
[06:23] <bulwynkl> I need to mount the old LVM partition so I can retieve the data.
[06:23] <Red-Sox> WTF is wrong with this clock...it's all...24-hour ewww
[06:24] <Jucato> Red-Sox: right-click Clock -> Date & Time format -> Time & Dates tab
[06:24] <Dr_willis>  KDE default. :)
[06:24] <intelikey> Red-Sox yeah and the first day of the week is what day ?
[06:24] <Red-Sox> Sunday!
[06:24] <Red-Sox> I changed that already
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Heh.
[06:24] <intelikey> better check you settings....
[06:24] <intelikey> heh oh
[06:24] <intelikey> ok.
[06:25] <Jucato> Red-Sox: changing the clock to 12-hour format requires you to log out and log in again
[06:25] <Jucato> or restart kicker.. not sure
[06:25] <Red-Sox> cool, cool
[06:25] <Dr_willis> yea theres some command that can do it..
[06:25] <intelikey> or remove the clock and add it back to the pannel...
[06:25] <Jucato> dcop kicker kicker restart
[06:26] <Dr_willis> but i find it odd that clock cant be smart enough to just have a toggle to do it.
[06:26] <flaccid> intelikey: 5 different guis? kubuntu uses 1
[06:26] <Dr_willis> KDE4 impovement i guess.
[06:26] <intelikey> flaccid yep   and ubuntu uses one.  and xubuntu uses one.  and ....
[06:26] <flaccid> intelikey: this is #kubuntu
[06:26] <flaccid> not the others
[06:27] <intelikey> exactly.  so the answers that work in the others are not acceptable here.... that's the point.
[06:27] <flaccid> thats also my point
[06:27] <Dr_willis> pointless..
[06:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:28] <flaccid> its far from that Dr_willis
[06:28] <T3hWiz0rd> hmmmf
[06:28] <intelikey> Dr_willis yeah i tend to agree.
[06:28] <flaccid> a newbie comes in. asks for help on something. is given help in cli. he knows nothing about cli and switched to kubuntu to get rid of windows...
[06:28] <flaccid> that is only 1 example ^^
[06:29] <intelikey> and ?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> a lot of the howtos/wikis should have a 'quick and easy with the cli' method. :) or lots of pitures...
[06:29] <flaccid> ready kubuntus philosophy and goals
[06:29] <flaccid> giving cli help is not part of that
[06:29] <intelikey> if you give dirrections in the gui, the same newbe knows nothing about that either....
[06:30] <flaccid> yes but common sense would suggest that the user would find it easier in the gui than the cli
[06:30] <flaccid> and they didn't convert to kubuntu to use cli in the first place
[06:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:30] <fairy> =] 
[06:30] <flaccid> have a think about what kubuntu's target audience is
[06:30] <intelikey> ok flaccid you have made your point.  now i see it plainly.  you don't want me here.   fine.  it would be easier to just say that.
[06:31] <flaccid> i love intelikey. i'm just trying to do the right thing
[06:31] <flaccid> please don't think i have something personal against you intelikey
[06:31] <intelikey> flaccid right in your eyes.
[06:31] <intelikey> right in your eyes.
[06:31] <flaccid> right in my eyes?
[06:31] <intelikey> yes
[06:31] <flaccid> what does that mean?
[06:32] <fairy> yeahhh
[06:32] <fairy> i do too
[06:32] <fairy> haahah
[06:32] <Jucato> Dr_willis: the job of tech support nerds is to make stuff easier for the users... not the other way around :)
[06:32] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee!
[06:32] <flaccid> all i can say is that guis are made to the benefit of everyone
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  it seems my job is often to  help these IDIOT window users see the light.
[06:32] <intelikey> means "<flaccid> i love intelikey. i'm just trying to do the right thing" <<--- that statement means that your view of it is the only right view.     the jury may still be outr on that.
[06:33] <flaccid> intelikey: official documents would disagree
[06:33] <Jucato> we all were idiots, at one point in time. let us not forget that :)
[06:33] <Hobbsee> hopefully, GUI's will be simple enough that users wont *need* to come here for help
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  speak for yourself. :)
[06:34] <Dr_willis> of course Im fighting with gettting my Hauggpag4e 150 TV tuner card going.
[06:34] <Hobbsee> flaccid: the CLI people will vehemently disagree with you @ the benefit of everyone comment
[06:34] <Jucato> Dr_willis: no. I'm speaking for the rest of humanity. I presume you're not part of it?
[06:34] <Jucato> :P
[06:34] <flaccid> Hobbsee: yes but the project agrees with my view
[06:34] <intelikey> "<flaccid> all i can say is that guis are made to the benefit of everyone"  do admins all concur ?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  im often told i am very nonhuman. :)
[06:34] <Hobbsee> flaccid: we're all "the project"
[06:35] <flaccid> intelikey: a lot do concur. but thats besides the point
[06:35] <Jucato> Dr_willis: whoever said that is wise beyond his years :)
[06:35] <flaccid> Hobbsee: go read the official documents
 flaccid: we're all "the project" <<< not me.   i don't even like ubuntu.
[06:35] <Jucato> flaccid: you're telling the Kubuntu Community Manager to "go read the official documents"?
[06:35] <Hobbsee> Jucato: hush
[06:35] <intelikey> and i don't like this stale argument.
[06:35] <Jucato> lol :)
[06:35] <RoKFiT> where is .trash located again?
[06:36] <fairy> i've an issue
[06:36] <fairy> to tell u guys
[06:36] <Hobbsee> RoKFiT: as in trash:/?
[06:36] <fairy> i've the problem and the solution
[06:36] <RoKFiT> yes
[06:36] <Hobbsee> ~/.local/Trash
[06:36] <Hobbsee> fairy: what for?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> .Trash is the one used by gnome. I think
[06:36] <fairy> to help
[06:36] <flaccid> Hobbsee: that can be said about the comment you just made....
[06:36] <RoKFiT> thanks Hobbsee
[06:36] <fairy> Hobbsee: to help
[06:36] <flaccid> once again people making personal statements..
[06:37] <Hobbsee> hey kkathman!
[06:37] <Red-Sox> wow
[06:37] <fairy> i've installed kubuntu today
[06:37] <kkathman> howdy !!!
[06:37] <bulwynkl> the problem isn't loack of clear instructions, CLI or otherwise... The problem is that a lack of background understanding...  If you have an understanding of what you are trying to achieve, it doesn't matter CLI or GUI.
[06:37] <Red-Sox> it's like #kubuntu-offtopic rejects
[06:37] <Hobbsee> flaccid: yes, which is why i've stopped, and am helping in other paces
[06:37] <abattoir> hello Hobbsee too :)
[06:37] <Hobbsee> bulwynkl: very true
[06:37] <Hobbsee> hey abattoir!
[06:37] <fairy> and the thing about no root user was confusing me
[06:37] <Hobbsee> !root
[06:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> fairy,  its very straight forward. :)
[06:37] <bulwynkl> so how's about someone tell me where to get a clue about LVM then?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> fairy,  and a point of lots of 'discussions' heh heh..
[06:37] <fairy> then i changed the root passwd
[06:38] <flaccid> so i guess you just stopped after you made the one about me
[06:38] <RoKFiT> how am I supposed to delete things from the trash if i have the delete menu disabled?
[06:38] <bulwynkl> CLI?
[06:38] <fairy> Dr_willis: hihi
[06:38] <Jucato> RoKFiT: Empty Trash <something>
[06:38] <Dr_willis> RoKFiT,  How did you manage to delete the delete item?
[06:38] <Hobbsee> bulwynkl: command line
[06:38] <RoKFiT> Dr_willis: by move to trash menu
[06:38] <Dr_willis> fairy,  :) shame..  (i do that first thing also) heh .
[06:38] <Jucato> RoKFiT: right-click anywhere in trash:/ and select Empty Trash Bin?
[06:38] <RoKFiT> Jucato: i'm in konquereor
[06:38] <flaccid> next time i'll remember to ignore what a projects goals are and to just give cli solutions.........
[06:38] <flaccid> cyas
[06:38] <bulwynkl> sorry, jargon? CLI = command line interface
[06:39] <fairy> then my screen locked while i was with my regular user fairy
[06:39] <fairy> then i COULDN'T unlock it with my user password!!!
[06:39] <bulwynkl> is this the support channel?
[06:39] <Jucato> bulwynkl: yes. CLI = command line interface
[06:39] <RoKFiT> i don't see an empty trash in konqueror
[06:39] <fairy> I had to open a new session, and in this one my user passwd worked
[06:40] <Jucato> RoKFiT: what are you trying to do again? simply delete a file, or permanently delete a file that's in the trash?
[06:40] <fairy> then i started to have a lot of problems with screens that needs root privs
[06:40] <bulwynkl> all I see is flames...
[06:40] <RoKFiT> permanently delete a file thats in the trash
[06:40] <Jucato> bulwynkl: rare stuff happens in here
[06:40] <Jucato> RoKFiT: go to trash:/
[06:40] <fairy> solution: I put the root passwd back to the same as the regular user
[06:41] <fairy> and now everything is working fine!
[06:41] <Jucato> type in "trash:/" in konqueror's location bar
[06:41] <fairy> =] 
[06:41] <RoKFiT> okay
[06:41] <Jucato> RoKFiT: you see your deleted files there?
[06:41] <fairy> it was so weird. i just wanted to let u know guys.
[06:41] <RoKFiT> yes.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> fairy,  i always set them the same also. :)
[06:41] <Jucato> RoKFiT: now, right-click on an empty space in the Konqueror window, then select Empty Trash Bin
[06:41] <Dr_willis> fairy,  the 'sudo' password is the users password. not roots.
[06:42] <RoKFiT> Jucato: I do not have that option
[06:42] <fairy> Dr_willis: damn, i had no idea the thing worked like that.. i play with linux for years ago and that really made me confused.. hihi
[06:42] <Jucato> :O
[06:42] <RoKFiT> I am in... /home/brandon/.local/share/Trash/info
[06:42] <RoKFiT> even in .../Trash/files i did not have that option
[06:42] <Jucato> RoKFiT: go to "trash:/", not the direct path
[06:42] <Dr_willis> fairy,  'sudo' is a command ran by the users, that takes THEIR password to allow them to do 'rooty' things.. having them know root users paswword/enter it - isent very logical.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> fairy,  'su -'  would need the root users password. since it would be logging in as root.
[06:43] <fairy> Dr_willis: but the weird thing is that other stuff stopped working fine after i've changed the root passwd
[06:43] <RoKFiT> okay than why are some files being moved to /home/brandon/.local/share/Trash/files and info?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> 'stopped working fine' :)
[06:43] <Dr_willis> fairy,  i would guess you got confused as to what password it was wanting.
[06:43] <Jucato> RoKFiT: trash:/ is a special URL (kioslave) that provides an easy interface to that part of the filesystem. so that you don't have to go into those folders manually and delete things
[06:44] <fairy> Dr_willis: i'm sorry about my english.. i'm brazilian
[06:44] <fairy> =] 
[06:44] <Jucato> RoKFiT: so when I say, got to "trash:/", I really mean go to "trash:/" (type "trash:/" in Konqueror)
[06:44] <RoKFiT> right, but why were there old deleted files in /home/brandon/.local/share/Trash/info
[06:44] <fairy> Dr_willis: i tried both: the user passwd and the root passwd and nothing worked.. hehe
[06:44] <RoKFiT> you're missing my question
[06:44] <RoKFiT> fixed now
[06:44] <RoKFiT> anywho brb
[06:45] <fairy> i wanted to tell u cause i though i was a common mistake and could save lifes..hihihi
[06:47] <fairy> Dr_willis: thank u for ur attention and kindness anywayzz =] 
[06:50] <SeyToN> i have 2 partitions of linux how do i browse my files of the other partitions i cant see it on media folder...
[06:52] <luca> hi everyone
[06:52] <SeyToN> hi
[06:52] <luca> does someone know how to successfully install the intel chipset propritary drivers?
[06:52] <luca> please do not tell me to use the free ones, they are botched :)
[06:53] <SeyToN> i dont use intel
[06:53] <SeyToN> what kernal r u running?
[06:53] <SeyToN> kernel*
[06:53] <luca> the latest
[06:53] <SeyToN> what version...
[06:53] <luca> generic
[06:53] <Hobbsee> luca: the intel chipset propriatory drivers?  didnt know any existed
[06:54] <luca> Hobbsee: they exist, but they provide only source and rpm, neither functions :(
[06:54] <SeyToN> compile it
[06:54] <Hobbsee> luca: odd.  i've never heard of them.  got a link to them?
[06:55] <luca> yep
[06:56] <luca> Hobbsee: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=922&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[06:56] <luca> downloaded both source and rpm, neither functions properly
[06:57] <cs_> hi
[06:57] <cs_> any way on changing the default audio device to my sblive?
[06:57] <cs_> i forgot :O
[06:57] <SeyToN> did u change the rpm file to deb?
[06:58] <luca> SeyToN: yep
[06:58] <Hobbsee> luca: that should already be in ubuntu you know....
[06:59] <Hobbsee> luca: and if they're providing the source, they're not propriatory
[06:59] <luca> under which name in the repos?
[06:59] <luca> 'cause the i810 is broken
[07:01] <Phantom123> hi! guys i wanna know can i play mp3 files in my computer when kubuntu installed
[07:01] <luca> uhm found
[07:01] <luca> amarok
[07:01] <luca> I believe it should already be configured out of the box now
[07:01] <abattoir> Phantom123: you'll need to install an extra package
[07:02] <abattoir> Phantom123: libxine-extracodecs
[07:02] <luca> oh ok my mistake :)
[07:02] <Phantom123> how can i install them?
[07:02] <abattoir> Phantom123: before that you'll need to enable the multiverse repository
[07:02] <abattoir> !repos | Phantom123
[07:02] <ubotu> Phantom123: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:02] <abattoir> Phantom123: follow that link, and enable universe and multiverse
[07:02] <abattoir> Phantom123: when you're done, search for libxine-extracodecs and install it
[07:03] <luca> with synaptic it is a breeze... (I still use it even if I have purged gnome :-P )
[07:03] <Phantom123> search where?
[07:04] <abattoir> Phantom123: did you read the instructions in that link?
[07:04] <Phantom123> no not yet
[07:04] <abattoir> Phantom123: please do
[07:04] <luca> uhm is there any way to install xserver-xorg version 1.71
[07:04] <luca> ?
[07:05] <abattoir> Phantom123: skip the opening paras if you are in a hurry or don't care much about knowing/learning about it know
[07:05] <Dr_willis> fairy,  whats SCARY is ive seen 'beginners' enter 'root' as the initial first user's name/login. :)
[07:05] <abattoir> luca: 1.71??
[07:06] <abattoir> luca: you mean 7.1 ?
[07:06] <Phantom123> ok,i have another question.how can i compile softwares that i downloaded from the web
[07:06] <abattoir> Phantom123: ok, for that you'll first need to install 'build-essential'
[07:06] <luca> well no, now it is 1.6....
[07:06] <abattoir> Phantom123: you can install it through adept or through 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[07:07] <abattoir> Phantom123: then in most cases, you'd have to extract the archive, run ./configure, make and sudo make install
[07:07] <Hobbsee_> !compile
[07:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:07] <cs_> meh, google's no help
[07:07] <Phantom123> please tell me more i don't understand it
[07:07] <cs_> google's matches only came up unresolved results
[07:07] <abattoir> Phantom123: click on that link :P
[07:08] <abattoir> !compile | Phantom123
[07:08] <ubotu> Phantom123: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:09] <luca> uhm ok let us try the i810 driver again...
[07:09] <Phantom123> i have installed kubuntu but there r not any games installed how can i get them to work
[07:09] <Hobbsee> install kdegames
[07:10] <cs_> there was a console command that set the default audio device to something else, what was that again?
[07:10] <Phantom123> how can i install kdegames
[07:11] <sizzam> i'm trying to add a user in KDE,  when i click the "Administrator Mode" button, i get a red outline around the box and i can't do anything in the window
[07:11] <cs_> sudo apt-get install kdegames
[07:12] <Red-Sox> when I try to switch to 'Admistrator mode' in the network settings, it just sits there saying "Loading..."
[07:12] <fairy> Dr_willis: lol definitely scary.. hhihi
[07:12] <Hobbsee> Red-Sox: use kdesu kcontrol instead
[07:12] <Red-Sox> okay Hobbsee
[07:12] <Hobbsee> or kdesu system settings
[07:13] <luca> sizzam, Red-sox: does kdesu function properly?
[07:13] <Phantom123> when i installed & exploring kubuntu i saw lots of softwares in my computer like python,gimp,firefox & many others,how can  get them to work?
[07:14] <Red-Sox> yeah Hobbsee either that doesn't work or I'm retarded
[07:14] <Red-Sox> probably the latter...
[07:14] <vanique> hi
[07:14] <vanique> ;)
[07:15] <Hobbsee> Phantom123: run adept, click on them to install, hit install
[07:15] <Phantom123> hey comeon someone please giv me the answer
[07:15] <Hobbsee> or something similar
[07:15] <Hobbsee> (it's in the menu)
[07:15] <Phantom123> that doesn't work
[07:15] <Red-Sox> what's the command to start something from the terminal?
[07:17] <vanique> hey, any native english speakers wishing to help me ? ;)
[07:17] <Hobbsee> vanique: what for?
[07:17] <Hobbsee> Red-Sox: just type it in
[07:17] <Red-Sox> totaly not working
[07:17] <Phantom123> can i run exe files on kubuntu
[07:18] <Hobbsee> Phantom123: okay, use "sudo apt-get install packagename1 packagename2 etc"
[07:18] <Rob-West> Red-Sox what r u trying to run
[07:18] <Red-Sox> Okay now how to I run it as admin?
[07:18] <Red-Sox> kcontrol Rob-West
[07:18] <Red-Sox> sudo kcontrol doesn't work
[07:18] <Rob-West> it runs for me
[07:19] <Red-Sox> could not find mime type
[07:19] <Red-Sox> application /octet-stream
[07:20] <RoKFiT> in amarok, is it possible for me to just show filenames in collection?
[07:20] <Hobbsee> Red-Sox: use kdesu
[07:20] <Hobbsee> !adept
[07:20] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:20] <Red-Sox> right right
[07:20] <Red-Sox> got it
[07:20] <Red-Sox> thanks Hobbsee
[07:20] <Rob-West> i need to restart KDE brb
[07:20] <Hobbsee> !adept > Phantom123
[07:23] <Phantom123> how can i watch encrypted DVDs on kubuntu
[07:23] <Jucato> !dvd
[07:23] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:23] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the pathway where i mount my hdd?
[07:24] <luca> goo day
[07:25] <Phantom123> how can i play mpg files on kubuntu?
[07:25] <SeyToN> vcl
[07:25] <SeyToN> or vlc
[07:25] <SeyToN> i cant remember the name
[07:26] <Hobbsee> !mpg
[07:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:26] <SeyToN> or install the plugins to the program u want to use
[07:26] <Hobbsee> with kaffeine
[07:26] <Phantom123> how
[07:26] <RoKFiT> yeah kaffeine stopped playing files for me
[07:26] <RoKFiT> idk what happened
[07:27] <rec> hi, does anybody know how to install something without installing dependencies?
[07:27] <SeyToN> how? reading the READ file of the plugin
[07:27] <RoKFiT> i installed vlc
[07:27] <RoKFiT> that's all
[07:27] <Phantom123> hobbsee please give me your mail
[07:27] <SeyToN> yeah vlc rules
[07:27] <RoKFiT> i hate how the volume doesn't remember itself
[07:28] <RoKFiT> and it needs an "open in self" feature
[07:28] <Hobbsee> Phantom123: i dont answer email terribly quickly
[07:28] <RoKFiT> to like open in the current player
[07:28] <Phantom123> it's okay
[07:28] <kkathman> except if that email is from me Hobbsee :) hehehe
[07:28] <Jucato> rec: afaik, you can't. if it doesn't have the dependencies it needs, it won't install and it won't run
[07:28] <Hobbsee> kkathman: that depends :P
[07:29] <kkathman> lol
[07:29] <kkathman> jk of course :)
[07:29] <Phantom123> anyways thank you guys,i gotta go now
[07:31] <rec> but if I compile from source it won't require any deps, right?
[07:32] <Jucato> rec: it will still require deps to be installed already
[07:34] <Red-Sox> One more thing
[07:34] <Red-Sox> I need to get some better video drivers!
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[07:34] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 12 2006, 00:34:27
[07:34] <Red-Sox> I've gottan ATI mobility Radeon X1300
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Red-Sox: hey
[07:34] <RoKFiT> @now Milwaukee
[07:34] <Red-Sox> hey Admiral_Chicago
[07:34] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the pathway where i mount my hdd?
[07:34] <RoKFiT> @now denver
[07:34] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Denver: December 11 2006, 23:34:46
[07:34] <rec> from #ubuntu: apt-cache show equivs
[07:34] <Red-Sox> Admiral_Chicago: I don't use windows anymore :)
[07:34] <rec> hope it works...
[07:34] <RoKFiT> denver is an hour back, wow
[07:35] <Red-Sox> where can I get video drivers?
[07:36] <Jucato> Red-Sox: which drivers?
[07:36] <SeyToN> ati.com
[07:36] <Jucato> ah
[07:36] <Red-Sox> mobility radeon x1300
[07:36] <Jucato> !ati | Red-Sox
[07:36] <ubotu> Red-Sox: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:36] <Red-Sox> so they aren't on apt?
[07:36] <Red-Sox> awesome
[07:38] <cs_> heh got it to default to the sblive
[07:39] <cs_> and heh the text to speech enabled on konversation is freaky
[07:48] <RoKFiT> where is text to speach in konversation?
[07:49] <Jucato> I think you need to have kttsd installed, RoKFiT.
[07:49] <Jucato> but I don't know how to use it...
[07:50] <Red-Sox> How do I get beryl running?
[07:51] <Jucato> !beryl | Red-Sox
[07:51] <ubotu> Red-Sox: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:51] <SeyToN> loll
[07:57] <Chetwin> #xgl
[07:58] <Chetwin> I need help.  I installed xgl but cannot get it started
[08:00] <RoKFiT> join #ubuntu-xgl
[08:00] <Red-Sox[away] > How can I play songs I've downloaded from iTunes (Protected AAC) in KDE?
[08:01] <Jucato> Red-Sox[away] : install libxine-extracodecs? I'm not sure if it handles Protected (DRM?) AAC too
[08:01] <Red-Sox[away] > yeah DRM
[08:01] <Red-Sox[away] > kkathman have you figured anything out about that yet?
[08:01] <kkathman> nope
[08:02] <Red-Sox[away] > Hrm.....
[08:02] <RoKFiT> red-sox, go into kcontrol, kde components, file association
[08:02] <kkathman> except I quit buying itunes
[08:03] <Red-Sox[away] > RoKFiT: But you can't _Play_ the protected AAC files....
[08:04] <RoKFiT> try what jucato said
[08:04] <DettoAltrimenti> do you mount an iso image just like you would mount a harddrive?
[08:04] <RoKFiT> install the codecs
[08:05] <DettoAltrimenti> and also would you try to mount a bin or cue file
[08:06] <Red-Sox[away] > Jucato:
[08:06] <Red-Sox[away] > Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:06] <Red-Sox[away] > This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:06] <Red-Sox[away] > is only available from another source
[08:06] <Red-Sox[away] > E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[08:06] <Jucato> Red-Sox[away] : do you have your multiverse repository enabled?
[08:07] <Red-Sox[away] > Notchet
[08:07] <Jucato> !multiverse | Red-Sox[away] 
[08:07] <ubotu> Red-Sox[away] : The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:07] <Red-Sox[away] > Oh boy
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Red-Sox[away] : don't forget to sudo apt-get update
[08:08] <RoKFiT> kaffeine won't open
[08:08] <RoKFiT> even from run
[08:08] <SeyToN> kaffeine sucks man use vlc
[08:09] <RoKFiT> kaffeine doesn't suck
[08:09] <Jucato> Red-Sox[away] : just add "multiverse" at the end of the line that looks like "deb http://__.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe" (presuming you're on Edgy)
[08:10] <RoKFiT> why do you think kaffeine sucks?
[08:10] <RoKFiT> because it won't play wma's
[08:10] <SeyToN> no
[08:10] <RoKFiT> then why
[08:11] <SeyToN> coz i can play video files throuh the network
[08:11] <SeyToN> cant*
[08:11] <RoKFiT> with kaffeine?
[08:11] <RoKFiT> with file sharing?
[08:12] <Jucato> RoKFiT: have you tried running Kaffeine from the command line (might show up some errors)
[08:12] <RoKFiT> no errors, nothing happens
[08:12] <SeyToN> and kaffeine has too many errors
[08:12] <SeyToN> errors= sucks
[08:13] <RoKFiT> SeyToN: do you game at all?
[08:13] <SeyToN> sometimes
[08:15] <RoKFiT> what games
[08:15] <SeyToN> cod2
[08:16] <RoKFiT> is it written for linux?
[08:16] <SeyToN> i dont think so
[08:17] <RoKFiT> yeah i HAD quake 4 working on a gnome-fedora setup
[08:17] <RoKFiT> then one day it stopped working when i removed kde
[08:17] <RoKFiT> plus the game sucked
[08:17] <RoKFiT> nobody plays it
[08:18] <SeyToN> u can try play cod2 on cedega
[08:19] <RoKFiT> ;\
[08:19] <RoKFiT> i think my subscription is up
[08:19] <gan|y|med> good morning
[08:19] <RoKFiT> actually no its not
[08:19] <RoKFiT> i still have 2 months
[08:19] <RoKFiT> maybe 1
[08:19] <SeyToN> compile it
[08:20] <RoKFiT> there isn't a package for kubuntu
[08:20] <SeyToN> theres a crack for an old version of cedega
[08:20] <RoKFiT> really
[08:20] <SeyToN> yeah im sure there is
[08:21] <RoKFiT> no i got busted last time i did that
[08:21] <RoKFiT> i should play with wine and try and get that working, but i'm so doubtful
[08:22] <RoKFiT> infact i think i did try
[08:22] <gan|y|med> how do i deactivate the m$ behaviour of edgy meaning how can activate the consoles again and see start-up messages at boot time?
[08:23] <RoKFiT> what?
[08:23] <SeyToN> the M$?
[08:23] <RoKFiT> right dude
[08:24] <gan|y|med> yes, this disturbing behaviour of not getting any information from the splash screen neither being able to switch to a decent console
[08:24] <gan|y|med> i just had a problem with my fstab and all the system did was stopping
[08:25] <gan|y|med> actually it told me to check manually but since i didn't see this...
[08:25] <SeyToN> restore the fstab
[08:26] <SeyToN> nano /etc/fstab
[08:26] <gan|y|med> i have otherwise i wouldn't be here. but even disbling the splash screen only gives me a minimal console and info about the file systems. where is all the rest?
[08:26] <RoKFiT> first fix your mount in fstab
[08:26] <gan|y|med> besides, why can i log in as root in rescue mode without a password?
[08:26] <gan|y|med> i have done so
[08:27] <SeyToN> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:27] <RoKFiT> i can't login as root either
[08:27] <SeyToN> and fix ur fstab
[08:27] <RoKFiT> *safety feature*
[08:27] <SeyToN> sudo passwd root
[08:27] <gan|y|med> pls, fstab is fixed
[08:27] <barata> hallo, why you guys actually prefer kde over gnome?
[08:27] <SeyToN> i preffer gnome
[08:27] <gan|y|med> oh god, so it is finally happening.
[08:28] <RoKFiT> what is
[08:28] <barata> and cant you just install evertyhing (kde-gnome)?
[08:28] <barata> anyway ... here is my question
[08:28] <gan|y|med> ubuntu is becoming worse... m$ behaviour. simplicity=usablitity
[08:28] <barata> I'm running ubuntu now and feel the urge to reinstall because this thing is so so bloated
[08:28] <notech> barata: best to try them both and decide for yourself
[08:29] <gan|y|med> so nobody knows how to revert to the old and decent behaviour like having ALL consoles activated?
[08:29] <barata> and I really dont know why and I dont think I want to know either (I get bored hacking the system)
[08:29] <SeyToN> what do you mean by having all consoles activated?
[08:29] <barata> so, I'm planning to install kubuntu AND eyedrop gnome (that actually is made for Slackware) ... now, does anybody already does this?
[08:30] <barata> notech... best is fluxbox
[08:30] <notech> barata: all i use
[08:30] <gan|y|med> i cannot switch to my console (alt ctrl f*)
[08:30] <barata> but really ... this my ubuntu is so bloated and seems to be like an old running horse
[08:31] <barata> so many daemons are running too and I dont really (care to) know what they are actually
[08:32] <SeyToN> and the problem is......
[08:32] <gan|y|med> neither do i have one when booting. it is just fs information. no info about services or whatsoever
[08:33] <SeyToN> dont have gui?
[08:35] <RoKFiT> are there any linux classes worth taking
[08:35] <RoKFiT> that would be available at a local technical school?
[08:36] <gan|y|med> get another distro and explore the system yourself. that is probably the best you can do
[08:36] <RoKFiT> name a better distro
[08:36] <gan|y|med> dapper
[08:37] <gan|y|med> for example
[08:37] <SeyToN> suse
[08:37] <RoKFiT> dapper is pre-edgy
[08:37] <Jucato> gan|y|med: remove the "quiet" from the appropriate line in menu.lst so that you'll see the other messages when you do Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or Alt+F1) during boot
[08:37] <paolo> Hi... is there a way to deny the access to KDE to users A, B? (they must access only ICEWM)
[08:37] <gan|y|med> thx
[08:37] <RoKFiT> lmao, so many people told me to use edgy not dapper
[08:37] <SeyToN> dont use drapper
[08:38] <notech> RoKFiT: why not just read books or online documentation?
[08:38] <gan|y|med> Jucato: but is the console problem driver related (ati) or are they really disabled? (though it will be harder to solve i hope it is the first)
[08:38] <seven11> how can i change a divice accses i did format hda1 form ntfs 2 fat32 and now i can't mount it anymore
[08:38] <RoKFiT> because i can't read
[08:38] <RoKFiT> lol idk i'm just having a conversation
[08:38] <notech> RoKFiT: tldp.org is a good place to start
[08:39] <Jucato> gan|y|med: what console problem?
[08:39] <RoKFiT> gan|y|med: is crazy.  he says dapper is better than edgy
[08:39] <gan|y|med> seven11: what is the error message when mounting?
[08:39] <seven11> no massage
[08:40] <Jucato> RoKFiT: in some ways, that may be true
[08:40] <notech> seven11: probably cuz the fstab entry is still referencing ntfs
[08:40] <RoKFiT> Jucato: what ways
[08:40] <seven11> i cant copy something in hda1
[08:40] <RoKFiT> give me a couple ways
[08:40] <seven11> nop changed to vfat
[08:40] <RoKFiT> that may make me switch
[08:40] <gan|y|med> can't you mount or write to it?
[08:40] <seven11> hda1 is owned by the root
[08:40] <Jucato> RoKFiT: for one, Dapper is meant to be really, really stable. so it has a stable selection of packages
[08:41] <notech> seven11: still mounted as ro?
[08:41] <Jucato> RoKFiT: another is that Dapper will be supported for a long time
[08:41] <RoKFiT> so what is the difference in dapper and edgy
[08:42] <Jucato> RoKFiT: edgy has a more updated package selection, has some "experimental" implementations (under the hood), etc
[08:42] <seven11> in gparted not mounted in /media owner root
[08:42] <Jucato> RoKFiT: basically, Edgy is meant to be a testing ground for new stuff. Dapper is meant to be a rock solid stable release
[08:42] <RoKFiT> lol than why did everyone tell me edgy
[08:42] <notech> Seveas: when you changed the fstab entry to fvat did you also change ro?
[08:42] <gan|y|med> for the other, though i am very pleased with some of the progress, dapper works out of the box on my nb and edgy does not quiet
[08:42] <RoKFiT> so with edgy i get newer stuff?
[08:42] <Jucato> RoKFiT: because you might want/need newer packages
[08:42] <Jucato> yes
[08:43] <RoKFiT> i do.  i'm on a 64bit machine
[08:43] <seven11> i check
[08:43] <Jucato> newer kernel (not sure if 2.6.17 has been made available in Dapper), newer Amarok, newer KOffice, and a lot of newer packages that you might not get in Dapper
[08:44] <seven11> RoKFiT: /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[08:44] <RoKFiT> what is that for?
[08:44] <RoKFiT> seven11: what is that for?
[08:44] <aspedia> can somoen help me with snortcenter?
[08:44] <SeyToN> thats his fstab
[08:44] <seven11> fstab for hda1
[08:44] <gan|y|med> and where is the point in having the quiet option (same problem in dapper) activated by default if it prevents you from seeing any messages at boot-up, hence leaving you with a blank screen when you have a problem with fsck
[08:45] <gan|y|med> seven11: shouldn't it be umask=777
[08:45] <gan|y|med> ?
[08:45] <RoKFiT> oh, seven11, i'm a noob to linux
[08:45] <RoKFiT> i don't know how to edit fstabs
[08:45] <aspedia> I dont get it run with adodb. Its search for adodb.inc.php I unpacked in document root but it is noct reading
[08:45] <notech> shouldn't fstab be referencing a /dev/ as well?
[08:45] <RoKFiT> ask Jucato
[08:45] <seven11> unmask=777 sounds good
[08:45] <Jucato> notech: not in Edgy
[08:46] <Jucato> !uuid
[08:46] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:46] <notech> Jucato: oh, ok
[08:46] <aspedia> I get the  error: Error loading the DB Abstraction library:  from "/adodb.inc.php"
[08:46] <gan|y|med> ok, forget how it sounds. WHAT is your problem?
[08:46] <Jucato> notech: but he still needs a UUID entry for that line
[08:46] <SeyToN> RoKFiT: i don't know how to edit fstabs<---------- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!
[08:46] <aspedia> I dont know wht is wrong with it. can someone help?
[08:46] <RoKFiT> i mean configure
[08:46] <RoKFiT> configure fstabs dummy
[08:47] <gan|y|med> does he? because i mount my sda disk just via device files.
[08:48] <RoKFiT> oh
[08:48] <RoKFiT> gan|y|med: you don't mount via terminal
[08:49] <RoKFiT> CLI*
[08:49] <gan|y|med> ?
[08:49] <gan|y|med> i have added them to my fstab. so what do you mean?
[08:49] <RoKFiT> oh i thought you meant you mounted your fstab a different way
[08:50] <gan|y|med> yes, i do
[08:50] <gan|y|med> i do not mount my additional devices via UUIDs, but via device files
[08:50] <T3hWiz0rd> how d oyou restart samba in kubuntu?
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> !samb
[08:51] <gan|y|med> and if you wanna trace back an fstab related problem the best thing to do is to mount by hand in a terminal to see what errors might appear
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> !samba
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:51] <seven11> ok if i sudo mount i get 2EB0DA54B0DA225F does not exist where would i find the new volume number?
[08:51] <notech> hm, uuid sounds experimental and still somewhat risky
[08:52] <gan|y|med> can't you mount or can't you just write to it???
[08:52] <notech> the UUID can be obtained using vol_id on the /dev/hdXY device.
[08:52] <Jucato> !uuid
[08:52] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:52] <notech> from the link posted here about uuid ^^
[08:53] <notech> huh, different than the url says
[08:53] <paolo> hi, is there a way to deny the access to kdm to a specified user?
[08:53] <gan|y|med> ok, if you don't wanna tell me
[08:53] <seven11> cant mount because in fstab number is probably different then the real divice number after i format
[08:54] <Jucato> afaik, reformatting changes the UUID of the device
[08:55] <gan|y|med> and why can't he just go with the device file?
[08:55] <Jucato> you can have the UUID's listed by typing "blkid" or "sudo vol_id <device>"
[08:55] <Jucato> gan|y|med: he can
[08:55] <Jucato> if he wants to
[08:55] <gan|y|med> why wouldn't he if it is a static partition?
[08:56] <Jucato> the advantage of using UUID is that if he changes the location of the hard drive, he won't have to change fstab
[08:56] <gan|y|med> well, that applies to removable devices. it will rarely happen to his hdd
[08:56] <Jucato> or something to that effect (like setting up the BIOS to boot from a specific drive, effectively changing the /dev/hd** identification)
[08:56] <RoKFiT> oh uuid like setting as home location
[08:57] <gan|y|med> but generally i like that :)
[08:57] <Jucato> gan|y|med: it will rarely happen to his hdd? you know him personally?
[08:58] <Jucato> the disadvantage of UUID is that the UUID changes when you reformat, afaik. but it's not that hard to find out what the uuid for a partition is
[08:59] <gan|y|med> well, how often do you actually change the place of your hdd given that you want a workable system. all i say is if it is not a removable medium you won't move it around a lot, will you?
[08:59] <seven11> ok looks like div is still ntfs
[08:59] <seven11> blkid
[08:59] <seven11> /dev/hda1: TYPE="ntfs"
[09:00] <Jucato> I had to move my hdd from time to time, specially when one of them started acting weird and was preventing the system from booting up. That's just me. I don't make the presumption for other users.
[09:00] <Jucato> seven11: you just recently reformatted it?
[09:00] <seven11> yes
[09:01] <Jucato> hm... if you try to mount it with /dev/hda1 instead of UUID, do you still get errors?
[09:01] <Jucato> I think you need a reboot for the UUID's to be reset. not really sure, but that's what happened to me...
[09:02] <RoKFiT> is this the reason why my hd sometimes says it's ntfs?
[09:02] <gan|y|med> Jucato: ok, cross me. but isn't it that all the fancy features in ubuntu are actually a presumption of what "most" users would find desireble (however you define it), so assuming that sb. moves around a dekstop hdd which i used to do as well is not really rational
[09:02] <seven11> yes because fstab looks for /media/hda1 and not /dev/hda1
[09:03] <Jucato> gan|y|med: it's not something that's just in Ubuntu, but is also being tested upstream (kernel). remember Edgy is about testing new stuff. besides. UUID covers both cases of people not moving and moving hdd's
[09:03] <Jucato> seven11: because you are missing a column in your entry
[09:03] <gan|y|med> and don't tell me that desktop hdd movements are the reason for UUID, rather it is the growing demand for flexibility due to removable data
[09:03] <seven11> it works for all the other divices
[09:03] <seven11> hda2 and hda3
[09:03] <Jucato> gan|y|med: not the only reason. read the link please
[09:04] <Jucato> seven11: what's the line again?
[09:04] <seven11> DA54B0DA225F /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=777,gid=46 0       1
[09:05] <Jucato> seven11: it should start with UUID=DA54B0DA225F.....
[09:05] <seven11> for the other vfat part         UUID=04C8-E91D  /media/hda6     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[09:05] <RoKFiT> in konversation where do i define part message and quit message
[09:05] <Jucato> seven11: also, I think the UUID hasn't been updated yet to reflect the fact that you repartition that ntfs as fat32
[09:06] <seven11> sorry yes it starts with UUID
[09:06] <Jucato> RoKFiT: F2 -> Edit -> Identity -> Edit, afaik
[09:06] <seven11> so a restart would do?
[09:06] <Jucato> seven11: might. but if you can't mount it using /dev/hda1, the there might be something wrong
[09:07] <RoKFiT> is there a command to set those paramaters
[09:07] <Jucato> seven11: try using "/dev/hda1 /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=777,gid=46 0       1" first if that works
[09:07] <seven11> nice before i had a useless xp partion so i didn't loose something
[09:08] <RoKFiT> gtk-gnutella is phat!
[09:09] <gan|y|med> Jucato: still i think it is not unreasonable to assume that people do not move around their hard drives...
[09:10] <seven11> nop
[09:11] <seven11> all i can think of is that the UUID changed and i don't know how i can find the new UUID
[09:11] <Jucato> gan|y|med: true. but I don't understand how this supports your argument against having UUID. if they don't move their HD around, UUID will work. if they do, it will still work. it takes a bit of getting used to, I admit. but nothing earthshaking
[09:11] <Jucato> seven11: have you tried using /dev instead?
[09:12] <seven11> doesn't work same error
[09:12] <Jucato> if you can't mount it using a normal /dev/hda1 reference, then something else is wrong (besides the fact that the UUID table hasn't been updated)
[09:12] <Jucato> what's the error again?
[09:12] <gan|y|med> Jucato: once again, my post was:
[09:12] <mindspin> seven 11 usb trouble?
[09:12] <gan|y|med> but generally i like that :)
[09:12] <gan|y|med> that = uuid
[09:12] <Jucato> I know
[09:12] <mindspin> is it the hal-bug?
[09:12] <gan|y|med> so where is my argument against it?
[09:13] <Jucato> dunno
[09:13] <Jucato> :P
[09:13] <Jucato> seven11: what's the exact error message?
[09:13] <Jucato> when you try to "mount /media/hda1"?
[09:14] <gan|y|med> as far as i understand it is imparted via udev. and i like udev. as far as i remember that was one of the things in dapper that made my life a LOT easier
[09:14] <RoKFiT> is ubuntu a branch off of debian?
[09:15] <paolo> jucato: do you know how to deny the access to kde for a particular user?:)
[09:15] <Jucato> paolo: no. sorry
[09:15] <Jucato> RoKFiT: Ubuntu is based on Debian, it's neither a branch or a fork (afaik)
[09:15] <seven11> Jucato: no such UUID
[09:15] <RoKFiT> afaik?
[09:15] <Jucato> RoKFiT: As Far As I Know = afaik
[09:16] <RoKFiT> so why not run debian
[09:16] <seven11> The system reported: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2EB0DA54B0DA225F: No such file or directory
[09:16] <gan|y|med> you dont wanna do this!
[09:16] <Jucato> seven11: and when you use /dev/hda1 instead in fstab?
[09:16] <gan|y|med> run debian
[09:16] <RoKFiT> why
[09:16] <Jucato> RoKFiT: run it if you want. it's your choice. no one is forcing you to use Kubuntu/Ubuntu
[09:16] <RoKFiT> i'm just wondering the differences
[09:17] <gan|y|med> because it is not, let me put this way, user friendly (and just to prevent prejudice, i am running debian at home myself)
[09:17] <Jucato> RoKFiT: lotss of difference
[09:17] <RoKFiT> no auto-updater?
[09:17] <gan|y|med> it is a great thing to learn about a system though
[09:17] <Jucato> RoKFiT: you can start by reading here: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:18] <Jucato> RoKFiT: and this, if you're interested about ubuntu and debian: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[09:18] <seven11> The system reported: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2EB0DA54B0DA225F: No such file or directory
[09:18] <seven11> same error
[09:18] <gan|y|med> just the access is not as easy as with ubuntu (+ you have apt which is just great)
[09:19] <RoKFiT> can a kubuntu user be related to a ubuntu user running kde, are things the same, better or worse for either?
[09:19] <Jucato> seven11: that shouldn't be happening if you're using /dev in that line
[09:20] <mindspin> seven11 what exactly do you wnat to do?
[09:20] <Jucato> RoKFiT: Kubuntu is Ubuntu using/running KDE (minus GNOME, of course)
[09:20] <Jucato> seven11: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[09:20] <RoKFiT> and gnome is more popular on ubuntu?
[09:20] <Jucato> !pastebin | seven11
[09:20] <ubotu> seven11: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:20] <seven11> i had xp on hda1 i formated hda1 because i can run xp in vmware
[09:20] <Jucato> seven11: err.. I meant fstab
[09:21] <RoKFiT> i like kde
[09:21] <gan|y|med> seven11: once again, is it removable medium? if not why don't you just go with the device file instead of the uuid?
[09:21] <Jucato> RoKFiT: Ubuntu started with GNOME. Kubuntu only started as a project much later
[09:21] <Jucato> RoKFiT: you can read those pages I linked to for more information
[09:21] <RoKFiT> kubuntu is so smooth
[09:22] <gan|y|med> ok, that is fiction now
[09:22] <RoKFiT> i've never seen any OS this smooth in my life
[09:22] <Jucato> gan|y|med: I'm wondering why mount is still complaining about uuid when I told seve`
[09:22] <Jucato> gan|y|med: I'm wondering why mount is still complaining about uuid when I told seven11 to use /dev instead
[09:22] <Jucato> RoKFiT: and how many OS have you used already?
[09:22] <gan|y|med> ok, i give up
[09:22] <Jucato> RoKFiT: btw, KDE is not an OS
[09:22] <Jucato> gan|y|med: don't. you know more about mounting than I do... :)
[09:23] <RoKFiT> windows, linux, apple
[09:23] <RoKFiT> gnome kde
[09:23] <RoKFiT> fedora redhat
[09:23] <gan|y|med> kde's smothness is probably one of the major issues
[09:23] <gan|y|med> ever tried xfce? (to be fair kde is much more integrated)
[09:23] <Jucato> heh... if you really compare to FC/RH using KDE, Kubuntu is indeed smoother :P
[09:23] <gan|y|med> Jucato: good joke
[09:23] <RoKFiT> yeah i've tried xfce
[09:24] <RoKFiT> i like it
[09:24] <gan|y|med> that is smooth
[09:24] <RoKFiT> with what browser
[09:24] <matthew> Yay, I'm back!
[09:24] <Jucato> that's not smooth. that's fast :
[09:24] <Jucato> :P
[09:24] <gan|y|med> ok, definition problem.
[09:25] <mindspin> does anyone know if its possible to get Kontact to work with thunderbird as e-mail client ?
[09:25] <RoKFiT> i could agree with what i read all over the internet that kde apps/buttons/whatever never look the same until i ran kubuntu
[09:25] <RoKFiT> everything matched
[09:25] <RoKFiT> things just worked
[09:25] <gan|y|med> but have you never recognized that you can count seconds until a window is completely built up in kde?
[09:25] <seven11> Jucato: got fstab ?
[09:26] <RoKFiT> mounting drives is annoying
[09:26] <gan|y|med> you learn to appreciate iz
[09:26] <gan|y|med> it
[09:26] <Jucato> seven11: huh?
[09:26] <gan|y|med> m$ had to, too
[09:26] <RoKFiT> yeah
[09:26] <Jucato> mindspin: nope :P
[09:26] <seven11> pastebin?
[09:26] <RoKFiT> i want to get an mp3 player but am worried about compatability
[09:27] <Jucato> bah need to go...
[09:27] <mindspin> stax away from Sony
[09:27] <Jucato> bbl...
[09:27] <mindspin> stay
[09:28] <gan|y|med> i am not really into this, but the nano is said to work with amarok quite nicely
[09:28] <RoKFiT> i want something cheap
[09:28] <RoKFiT> like 1 or 2 gb
[09:29] <gan|y|med> it is not that expensive
[09:29] <RoKFiT> 300
[09:29] <Lynoure> RoKFiT: Creative Movos work well with linux
[09:29] <gan|y|med> 120 euro i think
[09:29] <RoKFiT> too much if it gets lost
[09:29] <Lynoure> s/Movo/Muvo
[09:29] <RoKFiT> creative i like
[09:29] <gan|y|med> that is a point
[09:29] <RoKFiT> too much though
[09:29] <RoKFiT> i want smaller
[09:29] <RoKFiT> the iniotive
[09:30] <RoKFiT> i forget the name
[09:30] <RoKFiT> the sandisk soemthing
[09:30] <Lynoure> RoKFiT: So what is your hard limit on the price?
[09:30] <RoKFiT> 100
[09:30] <RoKFiT> bestbuy has it
[09:30] <Lynoure> RoKFiT: 1G Muvo you can most likely get for that price
[09:30] <RoKFiT> can i get it at bestbuy
[09:30] <matthew> RoKFiT, I would look on ebay
[09:31] <Lynoure> We do not have bestbuy where I live
[09:31] <RoKFiT> where can i get it
[09:31] <RoKFiT> insignia
[09:32] <RoKFiT> creative Zen, will that work?
[09:32] <jbruckman> i'm trying to type up some lab reports for my chemistry course. Does anyone know of a good program to do something like this with (that isn't open office, and isn't huge to download preferably)? Thanks.
[09:32] <Lynoure> I think so, but it's more expensive, isn't it?
[09:33] <RoKFiT> 140
[09:34] <RoKFiT> here can someone tell me if they KNOW if this will be compatible?
[09:34] <RoKFiT> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7879101&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat63300050026&id=1142302922720
[09:34] <Lynoure> Actually, if I was getting a new mp3 player now and 1G was enough, I'd go for iAudio U2
[09:35] <RoKFiT> by apple
[09:35] <Lynoure> ?
[09:35] <Lynoure> Your link thing was not by apple.
[09:35] <RoKFiT> apple makes it
[09:36] <RoKFiT> insignia
[09:37] <jbruckman> anyone?
[09:39] <Lynoure> jbruckman: some use latex for that, I think
[09:40] <Lynoure> jbruckman: But it can be complicated to learn.
[09:43] <RoKFiT> people love computers because they love to have their little collection of exclusive things that no one else has
[09:44] <Lynoure> RoKFiT: we can talk about that on #kubuntu-offtopic , It's a bit lenghty topic for this channel
[09:44] <RoKFiT> sorry
[10:02] (BGSteffens/#kubuntu) psb154: well everything is displaying correctly, but moving and resizing windows is like .5 FPS
[10:02] (BGSteffens/#kubuntu) psb154: it's an ATI X1300
[10:02] (psb154/#kubuntu) BGSteffens give us some computer stats: what card, cpu, ram etc
[10:02] <psb154> !ati
[10:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:03] <Lynoure> BGSteffens: try with gksudo instead of sudo   (or with non-graphical editor istead of gedit)
[10:03] <seven11> thank u mindspin sorted allready
[10:03] <BGSteffens> psb154: AMD64 3800+, 2 GB DDR2, ATI X1300
[10:03] <psb154> !ati
[10:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:04] <Rob-West> !joystic
[10:04] <Rob-West> !joystick
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <ubotu> joystick: Testing and calibration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 20051019-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 76 kB
[10:05] <twosouls82> how come macutils gave me "/usr/share/doc/macutils/README.unsit" and not the executable that readme is about?
[10:05] <BGSteffens> i'm brand-new to linux.. should i be doing this console work in a full console with no gui loaded, rather than within Konsole window?
[10:05] <twosouls82> is it called different now? if so, they could change the readme too :)
[10:06] <Lynoure> BGSteffens: depends a bit on what you do. But often does not matter.
[10:06] <Rob-West> !joystick help
[10:06] <ubotu> joystick: Testing and calibration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 20051019-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 76 kB
[10:06] <Rob-West> !joystickhelp
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystickhelp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <twosouls82> BGSteffens, nope, not if you don't require to have X off
[10:06] <BGSteffens> twosouls82: what is X?
[10:07] <twosouls82> X is the graphical server several OSes run on, including GNU/Linux
[10:07] <BGSteffens> twosouls82: interesting =D
[10:07] <twosouls82> BGSteffens, kde uses it to display its GUI
[10:08] <twosouls82> anybody a clue about the unsit missing in macutils?
[10:08] <haffe> Hello. I'm having a lot of trouble with amarok. I have installed libxine-extracodecs to gain mp3support, but it still doesn't work. The dialouge at the amarok splash screen (install mp3 support?) just fades away before I have the chance to click it.
[10:09] <Lynoure> twosouls82: GNU/Linux does not run on X but vice versa: X can run on several OSes. (sorry about the nitpick)
[10:09] <twosouls82> baffe: 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs' from the console
[10:09] <twosouls82> did I say the otherway around?
[10:09] <twosouls82> omg Lynoure
[10:10] <Lynoure> twosouls82: :)
[10:10] <BGSteffens> ok so.. the instructions for installing the ati drivers reference 'sudo gedit' a lot and i can't get that to work with gksudo either
[10:10] <twosouls82> Lynoure: good that you corrected that
[10:11] <Lynoure> twosouls82: I was feeling a bit absurd already about the world, a moment ago some guy claimed alien can turns .bz2 files into .debs
[10:11] <igi> hello
[10:11] <Jucato> i thought alien can turn .exe into .deb? :P
[10:12] <twosouls82> .bz2...
[10:12] <twosouls82> alien...
[10:12] <twosouls82> omg, I need coffee
[10:12] <Jucato> BGSteffens: use "kdesu kate"
[10:12] <Napa-> I've just downloaded and installed Kubuntu 6.10 edgy on my harddisk ... but it won't start .... I've AMD64 + Saphire Radeon XL850XL gfxcard ... I've heard that there is a major bug in the distro but isn't there nothing to do??
[10:12] <twosouls82> a lot too
[10:12] <xdx> what is the difference between  kubuntu 6.06 and 6.10 ?
[10:12] <igi> can someone tell me why on my LAN I can see all windows machines but not samba servers (run under linux)?
[10:13] <Lynoure> Jucato: rpm files and and such. Windows .exes nope.
[10:13] <twosouls82> Jucato: weren't you cynical??
[10:13] <twosouls82> =)
[10:13] <Lynoure> Jucato: at least as far as I know :)
[10:13] <BGSteffens> Anyone else had problems using Kopete on AIM protocol?
[10:13] <Rob-West> mine works
[10:14] <Jucato> Lynoure: the ":P" at the end indicates that it was a joke
[10:14] <xdx> what is the difference between  kubuntu 6.06 and 6.10 ?
[10:14] <Jucato> !dapper | xdx
[10:14] <ubotu> xdx: dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[10:14] <BGSteffens> I'm receiving messages fine, but my sent messages come up empty
[10:14] <Jucato> !edgy | xdx
[10:14] <ubotu> xdx: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[10:14] <igi> can someone tell me why on my LAN I can see all windows machines but not samba servers (run under linux)?
[10:15] <Napa-> can anyone tell me if there is a ATI bugfix for Kununtu 6.10 edgy ?
[10:15] <Lynoure> Jucato: sometimes it means joke, sometimes "dammit, don't they know even this" :)
[10:16] <Jucato> :P
[10:17] <twosouls82> see if this applies; http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=67536
[10:17] <twosouls82> igi --^
[10:19] <Lynoure> Jucato: like I said, people have been saying weird thing today, so when I feel already that there is some reality dysfunction, I do not get jokes very well as who knows how thing are =)
[10:20] <Napa-> Where is xorg.log located?
[10:20] <xdx>  /etc/X11
[10:20] <Lynoure> Napa-: try   locate xorg.log
[10:21] <Napa-> Lynoure: my kubuntu 6.10 edgy freeze in bootup ..  I guess there is a major ATI bug that is not fixed
[10:21] <Napa-> very annoying
[10:21] <Lynoure> Napa-: I do not know. There was some annoying ati bug at the point when I decided not to ge to edgy
[10:22] <Napa-> Lynoure: I thought maybe someone had found a way to go around that shitty problem
[10:23] <Lynoure> Napa-: have you looked at Launchpad for it yet?
[10:23] <Napa-> Lynoure: what is launchpad?
[10:24] <Lynoure> Napa-: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/
[10:24] <Lynoure> Napa-: did you upgrade from dapper or just install edgy?
[10:24] <BGSteffens> Hey everyone, just wanted to say thanks for all the help! The ATI drivers seem to be installed as the chopiness is gone :)
[10:25] <Napa-> Lynoure: just install
[10:25] <Napa-> fresh new
[10:28] <Lynoure> Napa-: if you do not need anything particular from edgy and do not want to spend time on this problem, try the long term supported dapper (6.06) instead
[10:29] <Napa-> Lynoure: I've tried that ... But I want 6.10
[10:29] <Lynoure> Napa-: which ati card you have?
[10:29] <Napa-> Radeon Saphire X800Xl
[10:32] <Napa-> hmm .. I think I can disable Dri in xorg.conf
[10:32] <Napa-> but where is xorg.conf located?
[10:32] <Napa-> in etc\  ?
[10:33] <BGSteffens> When I go to download software for Kubuntu, and it says Fedora Core 1-4, Mandrake, etc, which one do I want?
[10:33] <serveur> bonjour tlm !
[10:33] <Napa-> BGSteffens: Fedora
[10:34] <BGSteffens> Napa: what is the difference between fedora 1, 2, 3, and 4?
[10:37] <Napa-> BGSteffens: different versions
[10:37] <Napa-> like Win 95,98,2000,xp
[10:37] <seven11> orgot how to reconfiguer xserver
[10:38] <seven11> forgot how to reconfigure the xserver
[10:39] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[10:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:42] <BGSteffens> Napa: Which fedora core is Kubuntu  Edgy
[10:51] <twosouls82> mplayer with an mplayer subprocess?
[10:51] <twosouls82> omg
[10:53] <frogger> irc://irc.criten.net/DEFONiC-ALBUMS
[11:31] <Hobbsee> !planet
[11:31] <ubotu> Planet Ubuntu (blogs of Ubuntu developers and members) can be found at http://planet.ubuntu.com
[11:31] <Hobbsee> !membership
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about membership - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <Hobbsee> !member
[11:31] <ubotu> Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[11:36] <palemmo64> hello
[11:37] <palemmo64> there is someone?
[11:37] <palemmo64> i have to speak english or i can speak italian?
[11:54] <cam`> hi, my user created when installing doesn't have sudo privilege, it ask me for a password... is it a common issue?
[11:55] <Jucato> !sudo | cam`
[11:55] <ubotu> cam`: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:55] <palemmo64> nvidia
[11:55] <abattoir> cam`: yes, you are supposed to provide your user's password
[11:55] <Jucato> abattoir: when did you get back?
[11:56] <abattoir> Jucato: just got back
[11:56] <abattoir> !it | palemmo64
[11:56] <ubotu> palemmo64: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:57] <abattoir> palemmo64: you are fine to speak english here of course
[11:57] <abattoir> !nvidia | palemmo64
[11:57] <ubotu> palemmo64: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:57] <abattoir> it's quiet in here today
[11:58] <ubuntu> d
[11:58] <flaccid> indeed
[11:58] <flaccid> hehe
[11:58] <abattoir> :)
[11:58] <cam`> Jucato, abattoir: tnx :)
[11:58] <abattoir> cam`: np :)
[11:58] <Jucato> :P
[11:58] <galathalion> hiya all
[12:06] <sebbar> did they actually decide if they're going to use beryl or compiz in feisty?
[12:06] <eilker> !nagios
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nagios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <abattoir> sebbar: kubuntu is sticking w/ kwin for feisty
[12:08] <sebbar> how come abattoir?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> sebbar: nothing has been decided on default yet should be beryl if not beryl nothing but both should be in repos at the least
[12:09] <abattoir> sebbar: from what i've heard, kubuntu will wait till kde4(where the window manager there would be able to do the same)
[12:23] <gzagar> hi
[12:23] <gzagar> can enyone tell me how to reset root password in kubuntu ?
[12:23] <gsasha> gzagar: by default, you don't have root password at all
[12:24] <gsasha> you just do all the commands through sudo, for which you need your own pass
[12:24] <Jucato> !sudo
[12:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:25] <gzagar> tnx
[12:27] <gzagar> where can i fount c compiler or where to install it from ?
[12:28] <Jucato> !build-essential | gzagar
[12:28] <ubotu> gzagar: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:28] <Jucato> install "build-essential"
[12:29] <verzonnen> gzagar: as root in a teminal type "apt-get install gcc"
[12:35] <nAtic> hyeo
[12:35] <nAtic> heyo
[12:35] <visik7> anyone have got kdenlive packaged on edgy ?
[12:36] <mefisto__> I'm having a problem with the flash plugin in firefox. when konqueror is open too, flash videos stutter. I tried disabling plugins in konqueror, but it didn't help at all. Anyone else having this problem?
[12:36] <nAtic> no idea
[12:37] <nAtic> i am trying to install kubuntu, but is says, i have no root-filesystem selected -.-
[12:37] <nAtic> but i HAVE
[12:38] <mefisto__> nAtic: are you using the livecd or alternate install cd?
[12:46] <eilker> !LFS
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <Daylighter> did you set a mount point to "/"
[12:48] <delan> ol
[12:48] <delan> Bom dia...
[12:48] <delan> Tem algum a?
[12:48] <Daylighter> ooh
[12:48] <Daylighter> I dont know portuguese
[12:49] <delan> ol
[12:49] <abattoir> !pt
[12:49] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:50] <delan> Vc e Brasileira?
[12:52] <delan> BR\ZUKAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[12:52] <Daylighter> !en
[12:52] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:52] <Daylighter> ooh
[12:52] <delan> BRAZUKAAAAAAAAAAAA
[12:54] <nAtic> mefisto__: i am using a live dvd, i guess
[12:55] <nAtic> !root
[12:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:55] <nAtic> -.-
[12:55] <nAtic> !install
[12:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:56] <mefisto__> nAtic: like Daylighter said, make sure you have set one partition's mount point "/" (that is, root)
[12:57] <Daylighter> one set to /, one set to "swap" and the others can be whatever
[12:57] <nAtic> well, i know what root and / means
[12:57] <nAtic> and i have an ext3 partition (20 gb) marked as "/"
[12:58] <Daylighter> odd
[12:58] <nAtic> i click next, and it says, no root filesystem selected -.-
[12:58] <Daylighter> did you tell it to reformat
[12:58] <nAtic> i have a cross there
[12:58] <nAtic> also by swap
[12:58] <julle> Is there anyone running Quake3 under linux here?
[12:59] <nAtic> i tried, it crapped up under suse 10.1
[12:59] <nAtic> and why the hack is my just formatted partition 657 mb full?
[01:01] <malik__> can any1 tell me if i should change kernel b4 i install nvidia drivers on kubuntu coz on boot screen it says "generic" next to kernel version
[01:01] <nAtic> i don't have a home partition, but does it matters?
[01:01] <nAtic> malik__: you should change your typing for sure
[01:04] <nAtic> god dammit, that partition thing in kubuntu suxx
[01:05] <flaccid> which one, nAtic?
[01:05] <nAtic> the installation, i mean
[01:05] <nAtic> i selected a "/" partition, but it said, i did NOT selected a root file system -.-
[01:05] <nAtic> what was the problem?
[01:05] <nAtic> i had no /home partition
[01:05] <nAtic> -.-
[01:05] <nAtic> dumb ass installer :P
[01:06] <flaccid> i agree
[01:06] <nAtic> type and die installer -.-
[01:07] <sebbar> yeah it sux... gotta use the alternate install cd if you want to keep your windows partition
[01:07] <_osh> I agree also. Setting up raid/lvm is a pain. It should be easier than this. And the error-msgs aren't fun either. WTF does "error: device open" mean when I install a clean system. Grrrrr....
[01:07] <delan> BRASIL?
[01:07] <_osh> !br
[01:07] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:07] <flaccid> i have not done an installation keeping windows partition no prolem , sebbar
[01:08] <flaccid> errr sorry sebbar, i have done many and keep the windows partition
[01:08] <delan> 2 PARTITION?
[01:09] <sebbar> mmmh maybe nAtic and I had a different partitioning setup...
[01:10] <nAtic> i've also kept my windows partition
[01:10] <nAtic> i hope...
[01:10] <nAtic> *staring on the screen and praying*
[01:11] <Jucato> (just make sure you don't "check" the format box for partitions you don't want to be touched)
[01:13] <mefisto__> nAtic: perhaps make sure that none of the partitions are currently mounted by the livecd session
[01:14] <mefisto__> nAtic: personally, I would download the alternate install cd and use that. I find the livecd install very confusing
[01:16] <nAtic> i've got the dvd
[01:16] <nAtic> and i had to burn it twice
[01:16] <nAtic> because my suse linux 10.1 craps up every dvd it burns -.-
[01:16] <nAtic> so i had to use windows
[01:17] <malik__> can any1 tell me if i should change kernel b4 i install nvidia drivers on kubuntu coz on boot screen it says "generic" next to kernel version
[01:17] <malik__> ?/
[01:17] <Daylighter> you're fine
[01:18] <_osh> ...except for those odd spelling errors... >;-)
[01:19] <malik__> yea i know its courtesy of msn chats
[01:20] <Jucato> malik__: no need to
[01:21] <Jucato> _osh: you should see SMS/text messages in my country...
[01:21] <nAtic> ooookey
[01:21] <[GuS] > Bonjour!
[01:21] <nAtic> kubuntu is up and running
[01:21] <nAtic> !fr
[01:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:21] <_osh> Jucato: what country is that?
[01:21] <Daylighter> ouais
[01:21] <Jucato> philippines
[01:22] <Jucato> nAtic: heh he likes so say that when he comes in. but he speaks english :)
[01:22] <nAtic> eeer.... so guys, tell me what to do with a clean install of kubuntu?
[01:22] <[GuS] > nAtic, i always say hi like that......
[01:22] <_osh> Jucato: Sorry to be ignorant but you speak spanish in the phillipines, right?
[01:22] <nAtic> your problem, [q
[01:22] <nAtic> your problem, [GuS]  :P
[01:22] <[GuS] > don reply me about french channel....
[01:22] <[GuS] > so.. dont bother me :P
[01:22] <nAtic> :P
[01:22] <Jucato> _osh: only the very old ones remember how to do that
[01:22] <nAtic> eeer.... so guys, tell me what to do with a clean install of kubuntu?
[01:22] <nAtic> there is no yast, i guess
[01:23] <nAtic> :P
[01:23] <_osh> Jucato: What language is the main language then? (I'm a bit ashamed here... )
[01:23] <nAtic> any tool to configure my hardware?
[01:23] <sebbar> hey people if I install the kde4 kubuntu packages do I need to install additional stuff to compile programs from trunk? cause I'm getting an error right now
[01:23] <Jucato> _osh: Filipino. but we learn English as our secondary language :)
[01:23] <Daylighter> Filipino, _osh
[01:24] <TehKewl1> damn it, which package do I install to listen to MP3's
[01:24] <Daylighter> I've never seen a sentence of Filipino
[01:24] <_osh> Jucato: Don't think I've ever heard Filipino. What's it related to? Any language that sounds similar? Like English and American. >;-)
[01:25] <sebbar> TehKewl1: install libxine-extracodecs
[01:25] <TehKewl1> that's the one :D
[01:25] <Jucato> _osh: it's close to Spanish. in fact a lot of our words are based on Spanish. but Filipino has evolved to include words from other parts of the country (other dialects) (anyway, getting quite offtopic... :) )
[01:26] <_osh> Jucato: Way offtopic. Thanks for teaching me something new today. It's not everyday that you actually learn something. =)
[01:26] <sebbar> nobody who has the kde4 snapshot installed here?
[01:27] <Jucato> _osh: anyway the reason I brought my country up is because we spell stuff like this: nyway, d rison I brought my cntry up s bcoz we spel stuf lyk dis
[01:28] <_osh> Jucato: Oh, the horror...
[01:28] <niblets> Anyone here like Kpis?
[01:28] <Jucato> _osh: heh only happens when we're sending text messages... of course, due to force of habit... some people forget that they're actually writing term papers :P
[01:28] <Daylighter> I'm just trying out the Kubuntu liveCD, I normally use normal Ubuntu...
[01:29] <niblets> Kpis = the NEW AND IMPROVED KPIES!!!
[01:29] <malik__> !kpies
[01:30] <Daylighter> does it make pies?
[01:30] <niblets> PATENTED
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <malik__> !kpis
[01:30] <gzagar> where can i found any manuals for xgl & compiz for amd64 ?
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <niblets> !Kpotato
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Kpotato - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <niblets> this is fun =P
[01:31] <Daylighter> !pies
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <niblets> !Karrot
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Karrot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <Daylighter> lol
[01:31] <Daylighter> Kabbage
[01:31] <ssokolow> My mother's machine is kernel panicking on boot and I think the initrd is corrupted. How would I refresh the installed copy from the .deb?
[01:31] <niblets> I know EVERYTHING there is to know about pies. I am the Pies master!
[01:32] <ssokolow> (I'm a Gentoo user and i always avoid initrd for my own kernels, so I'm lost here)
[01:32] <Napa-> argh .. I'm getting mad .... Why can't Kubuntu 6.10 start?
[01:32] <niblets> I have plenty of spare Kernels in my korn field
[01:33] <niblets> Napa: Did it ever actually end???
[01:33] <Napa-> Why can't I find the x11 directory when I'm starting Edgy in recovery mode and get the text-line?
[01:34] <Napa-> niblets: yes ... I installed perfect .. But freezes when I start it
[01:34] <Daylighter> capitalize the X
[01:34] <Napa-> gets through grub ... then the Kubuntu screen apears ... takes 30 seconds .. then it turns green .. and freezes
[01:34] <Napa-> ctrl+alt+f1 does not work either
[01:35] <Napa-> So I think it is my radeon X800XL gfx-card that is not supported
[01:35] <Napa-> I was told to disable the dri module .. but I can't find it
[01:35] <nAtic> god dammit, kubuntu uses debian packets
[01:35] <Daylighter> language
[01:36] <Daylighter> and yes .deb, because *ubuntu is based off Debian
[01:36] <nAtic> dammit :P
[01:37] <Daylighter> what were you expecting
[01:37] <Daylighter> rpms?
[01:37] <Daylighter> compiling everything from source?
[01:37] <sebbar> lol
[01:37] <Napa-> anyone?
[01:37] <Napa-> I really need help here
[01:38] <Daylighter> Napa-: so you're able to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:38] <Napa-> Daylighter: I can't find det X11 directory
[01:38] <Daylighter> you're making sure that you're capitalizing the X
[01:38] <Daylighter> odd
[01:38] <Napa-> hmm .. I'll retry
[01:39] <Napa-> I'll hook up irc on my laptop
[01:39] <Napa-> brb
[01:39] <Daylighter> everything in the shell is case sensitive
[01:39] <nAtic> WOAH
[01:39] <nAtic> i have repos by default!
[01:39] <nAtic> great
[01:39] <Daylighter> yes
[01:39] <Daylighter> thank god
[01:39] <Napa-> but i tries cd etc\
[01:39] <Napa-> and dir
[01:39] <Jucato> everything in Linux is case sensitive...
[01:39] <Napa-> and then i anly saw xml
[01:39] <Daylighter> just do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:39] <_osh> You're running from the live-cd, right? Have you mounted the disk where the correct xorg.conf is?
[01:40] <Daylighter> oh wait
[01:40] <Daylighter> i didnt know he was running off the live CD
[01:40] <Napa-> I have installed the dvd to my harddrive
[01:40] <_osh> So you're not on a live-cd anymore?
[01:40] <Napa-> And i have to options in grub
[01:40] <Napa-> 1. Kubuntu6.10 and 2. Kubuntu 6.10 recovery
[01:41] <Daylighter> are you booting to recovery or regular
[01:41] <Napa-> when I try option 1 , evertything freeze after 1 minute ... option 2 takes me to text-mode
[01:41] <Daylighter> and you login
[01:41] <Napa-> dos mode
[01:42] <Napa-> GUI doesnt work
[01:42] <Daylighter> yes
[01:42] <Daylighter> you're able to log in
[01:42] <Napa-> no I'm not
[01:42] <_osh> Napa-: We perfer console-mode here. It's not really "dos".
[01:42] <Napa-> console-mode is the right terminology to use ;)
[01:42] <Daylighter> usually when you get stuck in console-mode it will ask you for your login
[01:42] <Napa-> Daylighter: it says root ...
[01:42] <Daylighter> make sure if it does, type your name, press enter, then type your password, then you can edit to your hearts content with sudo
[01:43] <Daylighter> root
[01:43] <Daylighter> wow
[01:44] <Jucato> Daylighter: the Recovery mode in GRUB boots you as root
[01:44] <Daylighter> oh
[01:44] <Daylighter> that's right
[01:44] <Daylighter> and you're still not able to "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?
[01:44] <Napa-> I will retry
[01:49] <Weam> Hi everyone, i installed kubuntu 6.06 some day ago, all went fine. Tho im getting problems with GRUB, it hangs at Loading Stage 1.5 / Hard Disk Error, and i've found out it has something to do with my S-ATA disk.. i googled some and found out i need to update my BIOS to make it work, tho i already had the latest so thats screwed.
[01:49] <Weam> A guy help me install LILO instead of GRUB but i got some Fatal error cuz of raid (?) tho im not using any raid, but i guess my S-ATA controller identifys it as a raiddisk. Is there any way of making it work? Any known solutions?
[01:49] <Weam> Here is a guy with the same problem, also the same motherboard as me: http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub%40gnu.org/msg10559.html
[01:50] <nAtic> !repositories
[01:50] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> !repositories
[01:50] <napa-> I think it worked
[01:50] <napa-> Trying to reboot the other computer
[01:50] <davidf> hi
[01:51] <davidf> does anyone have experience with a self-compiled kernel ?
[01:52] <napa-> nah .... I removed the "dri" module from xorg.conf ... but it still freeze
[01:52] <_osh> not in kubuntu
[01:52] <napa-> That is a really serious bug
[01:52] <napa-> any other suggestions?
[01:53] <napa-> Be polite to windows xp pro .... it's very boring .. but always stable
[01:53] <davidf> shall i try to compile a kernel or do u think that this is to difficult for a normal user?
[01:53] <_osh> davidf: what's the point? do you really need it?
[01:53] <natic_> !repositories
[01:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:54] <_osh> napa-: what does the xorg-error logfile say?
[01:54] <davidf> i've heard in an other linux board that self-compiled kernels are much better than the binary kernels
[01:54] <davidf> the system will get much faster especially while booting
[01:55] <_osh> davidf: Don't bother then. It's probably not worth it for you. More trouble than it's worth and the speedup is something like 10% or so. A full 3 whopping seconds or something.
[01:56] <_osh> davidf: It might be useful for someone with odd hardware but not for normal users. Unless you want to learn stuff, then it's a great way. You'll probably screw up more than once. I know I did... =)
[01:57] <davidf> ok i think i'll try to compile a kernel because i want to learn how my system works
[01:58] <_osh> davidf: Good luck. And I should probably warn you that the first 30 or so kernels that you make will most certainly be slower than the binary ones. Unless you're an avid developer with expertise in compiling and building software. =)
[01:58] <napa-> _osh: where can I find the log-file?
[01:58] <MHK> http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto6px3.png
[01:58] <napa-> wasnt in the X11 directory
[01:59] <_osh> napa-: /var/log... somewhere. /X11 perhaps...
[01:59] <paolo> Hi: which is the config file which associates a default program to a file type in icewm? thnks....
[01:59] <_nAtic> heyho
[01:59] <Windwalker> Hi. My computer was restarted 1 hour ago, while I was away. Can somebody tell me how to check the reason for the restart?
[01:59] <_nAtic> tell me some repos, i need
[02:00] <_osh> Windwalker: /var/log/messages I believe.
[02:00] <_nAtic> if it was your cat on the keyboard, you will never find out
[02:00] <Windwalker> I will check it
[02:00] <Windwalker> 10x
[02:00] <Windwalker> :)
[02:01] <_osh> Windwalker: Ten Ex?
[02:01] <Windwalker> I am at work and there are no cats in the office
[02:01] <Windwalker> Ten Ex?
[02:01] <_osh> Windwalker: 10x?
[02:02] <Windwalker> 10eggs
[02:05] <napa-> _osh: It says "no screen found"
[02:05] <napa-> fatal screen error
[02:05] <napa-> fatal server error
[02:07] <Jucato> !changelog
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <Jucato> !changelogs
[02:07] <ubotu> changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com
[02:08] <probZ> hi all
[02:08] <probZ> I got a big problem, Kubuntu wants to resize a partition, but I cant see what Partition it means.... it shows /dev/hda5 but I dont know what windows-partition this is
[02:09] <_nAtic> :P
[02:09] <probZ> and I need to find out, but qtparted and gparted dont show info
[02:09] <probZ> they just get stuck while trying to get Partition Info
[02:09] <probZ> :<
[02:09] <_nAtic> hm
[02:09] <probZ> I got a Samsung SP1614N
[02:09] <probZ> IDE Harddrive, 160 GB of Size
[02:09] <_nAtic> yeah
[02:10] <_nAtic> do you know how big hda5 is?
[02:10] <probZ> it shows 100% are 42,7 GB
[02:10] <napa-> what is boot with break=bottom in kubuntu?
[02:10] <_nAtic> dunno
[02:10] <probZ> but I got 4 or 5 Partitions of that size
[02:10] <probZ> so i cant identify Partiton just by size
[02:10] <napa-> is it possible to jump from the Kubuntu picture screen to console-mode while startup ?
[02:10] <_nAtic> probZ: remember the size of your windows partition?
[02:11] <probZ> its smaller
[02:11] <probZ> and has FAT32
[02:11] <_nAtic> hm..
[02:11] <_nAtic> you're fucked then :P
[02:11] <_nAtic> it has to be smaller, for windows only allowes 32 gb of fat32 partitions
[02:11] <probZ> well, /dev/hda5 is 42 GB, my windows partiton is bout 20 GB
[02:11] <_nAtic> i got a problem now
[02:11] <probZ> ... all my partitions are NTFS
[02:11] <probZ> but not Windows
[02:11] <probZ> windows partiton has 20 GB and is FAT32
[02:11] <_nAtic> i've installed the nvidia driver
[02:12] <_nAtic> now i did a restart
[02:12] <_nAtic> and now i am in a text console o0
[02:12] <_nAtic> how to get back to my loved GUI?
[02:12] <probZ> hmm
[02:12] <probZ> start kdm?
[02:12] <probZ> type kdm
[02:12] <probZ> should start k display manager
[02:13] <probZ> who can help me with my hard drive problem ^^ ?
[02:13] <_nAtic> OMG
[02:13] <_nAtic> it says
[02:13] <_nAtic> "only root wants to run kdm"
[02:13] <probZ> login as root
[02:13] <probZ> and try again^^
[02:13] <_nAtic> hehe
[02:13] <_nAtic> i type exit...
[02:13] <_nAtic> i get back to login
[02:13] <_nAtic> i type "root" as username
[02:13] <_nAtic> i type the password
[02:13] <probZ> and...?
[02:13] <_nAtic> login incorrect o0
[02:13] <probZ> oO ?
[02:13] <_nAtic> i've never set up a root pass
[02:14] <probZ> omfg
[02:14] <probZ> >_<
[02:14] <_nAtic> this is a clean kubuntu installation from this twisted live cd
[02:14] <napa-> lol
[02:14] <probZ> napa
[02:14] <probZ> got an idea?
[02:14] <probZ> for my problem^^
[02:14] <_nAtic> same here
[02:14] <napa-> I found a website with the same problem as mine ... loads of loads of messages there
[02:14] <_nAtic> got an idea?
[02:14] <napa-> I guess I just give up and goes straight back to 6.06 or windows
[02:15] <probZ> lol...
[02:15] <probZ> i would recommend 6.06 not windows ^^
[02:15] <_nAtic> what the hack is the default root pass?!?!?!
[02:15] <probZ> who can help me...
[02:15] <probZ> :(
[02:15] <probZ> normally there shouldnt be a "default root pass"
[02:15] <_nAtic> yeah
[02:15] <probZ> you HAVE TO enter a root pass
[02:16] <_nAtic> i've never had to setup one
[02:16] <probZ> if you install from live CD
[02:16] <probZ> oO?
[02:16] <_nAtic> no, i don
[02:16] <probZ> just try
[02:16] <probZ> root
[02:16] <probZ> ^^
[02:16] <probZ> as password
[02:16] <_nAtic> incorrect
[02:16] <_nAtic> BUT
[02:16] <_nAtic> i set my ehternet card a little earlier
[02:16] <_nAtic> and i was asked the password
[02:17] <_nAtic> and i inserted the password, i considered to be root
[02:17] <_nAtic> and it worked
[02:17] <_nAtic> but not anymore -.-
[02:17] <probZ> hmm lol
[02:17] <_nAtic> okay.... so much about kubuntu
[02:17] <_nAtic> yet another distro -.-
[02:17] <probZ> reinstall
[02:17] <probZ> ^^
[02:17] <_nAtic> crap
[02:18] <_nAtic> or i'll have a shower
[02:18] <_nAtic> and go out into the real world
[02:18] <probZ> ^^
[02:18] <probZ> xD
[02:18] <JorixB> If I use fuse I can only access the device as root, it doesn't show up in konqueror and in konsole ls says "?--------- ? ?    ?       ?                ? mobile" on the mounted directory. I try to mount siefs through fstab.
[02:18] <_nAtic> (=
[02:18] <_nAtic> for example to buy something for christmas
[02:18] <probZ> where are u from ^^ ?
[02:18] <_nAtic> germany
[02:18] <probZ> (Country)
[02:18] <probZ> ach du auch
[02:18] <probZ> ^^
[02:18] <_nAtic> jah
[02:18] <probZ> sieh ma einer an
[02:18] <_nAtic> daher suse!
[02:18] <probZ> was?
[02:19] <probZ> Suse?
[02:19] <probZ> aaaah
[02:19] <_nAtic> arisches suse :] 
[02:19] <probZ> Suse suxxxxx^^
[02:19] <_nAtic> <-- suse
[02:19] <_nAtic> und am abcrappen
[02:19] <probZ> du bist unter suse?
[02:19] <probZ> oO?
[02:19] <_nAtic> jah, hier
[02:19] <_nAtic> laptop
[02:19] <probZ> o.m.f.g
[02:19] <probZ> :-D
[02:19] <Windwalker> _osh, I just checked /var/messages. According to last -10 there is a restart in "system boot  2.6.15-27-386    Wed Dec 13 13:29" and according to messages there are no traces of reboot. Could it be hardware fault?
[02:19] <_nAtic> vor mir mein pc mit kubuntu
[02:19] <probZ> :-D
[02:19] <_nAtic> yep
[02:19] <abattoir> guys could you take offtopic stuff to #kubuntu-offtopic please?
[02:20] <_nAtic> Windwalker: or the cat
[02:20] <probZ> abattoir
[02:20] <_nAtic> abattoir: whats my root pass?
[02:20] <probZ> maybe u can help me
[02:20] <abattoir> !de
[02:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:20] <abattoir> probZ: i can try
[02:20] <_nAtic> abattoir: whats my root pass?
[02:20] <abattoir> !sudo | _nAtic
[02:20] <ubotu> _nAtic: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:20] <probZ> following
[02:20] <_nAtic> i know what sudo is -.-
[02:20] <abattoir> _nAtic: read that link, root a/c is disabled by default in kubuntu
[02:20] <probZ> Kubuntu recommends me to make a partition smaller - /dev/hda5
[02:20] <_nAtic> ah
[02:21] <Windwalker> _nAtic, If you brought yours...
[02:21] <probZ> but I cant see what windows partition this is
[02:21] <probZ> not even qtparted or gparted show me
[02:21] <_nAtic> root is disabled by default...
[02:21] <abattoir> _nAtic: that's why i asked you to read that link, it explains that stuff
[02:21] <probZ> the both hang up while trying to get information
[02:21] <_nAtic> this sentence is absolutely great
[02:21] <Windwalker> I guess you are better in Bulgarian, _nAtic
[02:21] <probZ> maybe someone can help me now if natic's problem is fixed now
[02:21] <probZ> ^^
[02:22] <abattoir> probZ: kubuntu recommends to make your partition smaller???
[02:22] <probZ> yes
[02:22] <JorixB> does anyone know why fuse shows a permission and use of "?--------- ? ?    ?       ?                ? mobile" in /media when I don't use sudo ls.
[02:22] <probZ> one partiton
[02:22] <probZ> 42,7 GB normally
[02:22] <_nAtic> stupid sudo handling -.-
[02:23] <probZ> but I dont know what Windows-partition it is
[02:23] <twosouls82> abattoir: that page taught me that 'sudo -i' is a equivalent for 'sudo -s -H' which I allways use
[02:23] <twosouls82> nice
[02:23] <abattoir> :)
[02:23] <probZ> I wanna find out
[02:23] <_nAtic> i type "sudo kdm" and nothing happens
[02:23] <_nAtic> any other ideas how to get back to kde?
[02:23] <abattoir> probZ: you could try mounting them manually
[02:23] <probZ> k if u tell me how ^^
[02:23] <abattoir> _nAtic: you are in the cli?
[02:23] <twosouls82> _nAtic: try a startx and see if you get error messages
[02:23] <_nAtic> yep, in the cli
[02:24] <twosouls82> ah!
[02:24] <abattoir> probZ: you are in the livecd right?
[02:24] <_nAtic> after installing nvidia driver :] 
[02:24] <twosouls82> =)
[02:24] <_nAtic> no, i've installed the live cd already
[02:24] <abattoir> _nAtic: what error does starx give?
[02:24] <probZ> yes @ abattoir
[02:24] <abattoir> _nAtic: that was for probZ
[02:24] <_nAtic> yeah, fatal server errors
[02:24] <abattoir> probZ: type media:/ in konqueror
[02:24] <twosouls82> like what? _nAtic
[02:24] <abattoir> probZ: do you see your partitions?
[02:24] <probZ> its empty
[02:24] <_nAtic> like erm... no screens were found ^^
[02:25] <_nAtic> insert a screen and prees f1 -.-
[02:25] <probZ> @ abattoir
[02:25] <twosouls82> _nAtic: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' first
[02:25] <_nAtic> mom
[02:26] <abattoir> probZ: ok, do you have sata disks?
[02:26] <probZ> IDE
[02:26] <probZ> only
[02:26] <abattoir> probZ: is your harddisk hda then?
[02:26] <probZ> yep
[02:26] <_nAtic> xserver-org is not installed
[02:26] <probZ> it is/dev/hdax
[02:26] <abattoir> probZ: ok, 'sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1' 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1'
[02:26] <abattoir> probZ: type those one after the other in a CLI
[02:26] <twosouls82> _nAtic: sudo apt-get install xserver-org
[02:26] <_nAtic> whats the paketmanager under kubuntu?
[02:26] <_nAtic> ah, apt-get :] 
[02:27] <abattoir> _nAtic: Adept
[02:27] <_nAtic> thx
[02:27] <Jucato> _nAtic: apt-get, aptitude, Adept
[02:27] <twosouls82> abattoir: without X? heh! =)
[02:27] <abattoir> twosouls82: well, he said kubuntu ;)
[02:27] <_nAtic> no match for paket xserver-org
[02:27] <abattoir> xserver-xorg
[02:27] <Jucato> :)
[02:27] <_nAtic> aaaah
[02:28] <_nAtic> yeah
[02:28] <twosouls82> i made a typo, sorry _nAtic, for the confusion
[02:28] <_nAtic> i am finaly in something graphic
[02:28] <_nAtic> twosouls82: thanks anyway...
[02:28] <twosouls82> _nAtic: enjoy
[02:28] <probZ> abattoir:
[02:28] <_nAtic> great
[02:28] <probZ> it recognizes the partitons but I cant access them
[02:28] <_nAtic> whats my x server driver?
[02:28] <probZ> if i type
[02:28] <_nAtic> it used to by vesa
[02:28] <probZ> ./dev/hda1 for example
[02:28] <probZ> without the .
[02:28] <_nAtic> but i want my geforce 4 ti up and running
[02:29] <probZ> it trys to "locate" them
[02:29] <twosouls82> _nAtic: depends on your cid card
[02:29] <probZ> tries
[02:29] <abattoir> probZ: did you type what i asked you to type?
[02:29] <twosouls82> !nvidia
[02:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:29] <probZ> abattoir yes
[02:29] <probZ> !
[02:29] <abattoir> probZ: first make a temp dir. under /mnt
[02:29] <abattoir> probZ: did you do that?
[02:29] <probZ> it said the file exists
[02:29] <probZ> wait
[02:30] <twosouls82> !nvidia | _nAtic
[02:30] <ubotu> _nAtic: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <abattoir> probZ: ok, now the mount command
[02:30] <probZ> w8
[02:30] <probZ> ok abattoir
[02:30] <probZ> now go on
[02:30] <abattoir> probZ: did you run the  mount command?
[02:31] <abattoir> probZ: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[02:31] <abattoir> probZ: which filesystem type do your windows partitions use?ntfs?
[02:31] <probZ> C: // the first partition uses fat32
[02:31] <probZ> the others ntfs
[02:31] <abattoir> probZ: so did the mount command work
[02:32] <probZ> yep
[02:32] <Windwalker> Dec 13 13:14:30 localhost -- MARK --
[02:32] <abattoir> probZ: so you can see it?
[02:32] <probZ> yes
[02:32] <abattoir> probZ: now do the same for the other partitions
[02:32] <Windwalker> Does anybody know what this means Dec 13 13:14:30 localhost -- MARK --
[02:32] <probZ> this is C: part
[02:32] <natic`kubuntu> !nvidia
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <abattoir> probZ: just replace hda1 w/ hda2, hda3 etc...
[02:32] <probZ> doesnt work if i replace it
[02:32] <abattoir> probZ: what are the partitions you have?
[02:33] <probZ> ah ok
[02:33] <probZ> i forgot to make the folders for the partitions
[02:33] <probZ> ^^
[02:33] <probZ> sry!
[02:33] <abattoir> heh :P
[02:33] <Jucato> O.o
[02:33] <probZ> got problem
[02:34] <probZ> ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt$ sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4
[02:34] <probZ> mount: /dev/hda4: can't read superblock
[02:34] <probZ> I guess i already found the crypted harddrive
[02:34] <probZ> ^^
[02:34] <probZ> crypted partition...
[02:35] <abattoir> probZ: there might not be a /dev/hda4
[02:35] <abattoir> probZ: since there won't be 4 primary partitions, it'd be a logical one
[02:35] <probZ> got another problem
[02:35] <abattoir> try /dev/hda5
[02:35] <probZ> i cant access 2-5
[02:35] <probZ> it says not enough rights...
[02:36] <Windwalker> Does anybody know what -- MARK -- mean? This is the last thing in my messages log before my system restarts.
[02:36] <probZ> only hda1 works oO
[02:36] <abattoir> probZ: are you trying to write data to it?
[02:36] <probZ> nope
[02:37] <probZ> just tryin 2 access using konqueror
[02:37] <abattoir> probZ: but you've found the partition you needed to find?
[02:38] <probZ> ah i found out it was the right 1
[02:38] <probZ> thx
[02:38] <probZ> :>
[02:39] <probZ> now I am goin 2 install kubunut
[02:39] <probZ> kubuntu*
[02:39] <abattoir> good for you ;)
[02:39] <probZ> thx for everybody's help
[02:39] <probZ> ;>
[02:39] <probZ> especially to abattoir
[02:40] <abattoir> you're welcome :)
[02:40] <probZ> comin back asap
[02:40] <nuku_> Windwalker: it just menns that the syslogd was running at that time and could write to the log..
[02:40] <nuku_> means..
[02:40] <Windwalker> I checked the syslogd manual
[02:41] <nuku_> yes its the -m option ... and as stated setting it to 0 disables mariking...
[02:42] <Windwalker> nuku_, my problem is that my machine is having accidental restarts. Do you know which is the first line in a log after a restart?
[02:43] <Windwalker> Is this the last? -> Dec 13 13:29:40 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart
[02:44] <nuku> this should be the first afair..
[02:44] <Windwalker> so you mean this is the first line after, a restart, right?
[02:45] <nuku> yes.. or in particular the start of syslogd..
[02:45] <Windwalker> :( if so the I cannot understand the reason for these accidental restarts, as the previous line is Dec 13 13:14:30 localhost -- MARK --
[02:45] <nuku> maybe your powersupply is broken?!
[02:46] <Windwalker> :( I will check it, but I guess it is the ugly Asrock, which is making the problems
[02:48] <nuku> Windwalker: maybe you should try running memtest or some other lowlevel hardware diagnostics..
[02:49] <Windwalker> I will try ultimateboot cd in this case
[02:49] <nuku> without any entry in the logs it really sounds like broken hardware...
[02:50] <Windwalker> nuku, can you tell me if this is normal in auth.log ->Dec  9 15:17:01 localhost CRON[5707] : (pam_unix) session closed for user root
[02:50] <Windwalker> Dec  9 16:17:01 localhost CRON[5709] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[02:50] <_nAtic> YEAH
[02:50] <Windwalker> I do not have any crontab for root
[02:50] <_nAtic> nvidia up and running
[02:50] <_nAtic> thanks folks, you're the best (=
[02:51] <nuku> Windwalker: sounds normal.. look at /etc/cron.daily/hourly etc ...
[02:52] <Windwalker> Thank you for your help, nuku.
[02:52] <nuku> np ;)
[02:53] <probZ> hmm
[02:54] <probZ> abattoir ????
[02:54] <probZ> got another problem
[02:54] <probZ> :(
[02:54] <_nAtic> erm... i do have nvidia driver installed
[02:54] <probZ> natic das heisst I have... nicht i do have
[02:54] <probZ> ;>
[02:55] <_nAtic> but it still won't let me use 1280x1024 resolution
[02:55] <_nAtic> nene, probZ
[02:55] <_nAtic> ich kann schon englisch
[02:55] <probZ> ^^
[02:55] <_nAtic> do zur verdeutlichung
[02:55] <probZ> super
[02:55] <probZ> ^^
[02:55] <_nAtic> i do love chocolate
[02:55] <_nAtic> oder i love chocolate
[02:55] <probZ> Kubuntu nervt :<
[02:55] <_nAtic> i DO love chocolate ist ntigender
[02:55] <twosouls82> Ich liebe English
[02:55] <twosouls82> ;)
[02:56] <twosouls82> *hint*
[02:56] <_nAtic> 2.6.16.21-0.25-default
[02:56] <_nAtic> uuuh
[02:56] <_nAtic> ubuntu has a newer kernel, then me o0
[02:56] <_nAtic> what does generic mean anyway?
[02:57] <Jucato> !generic | _nAtic
[02:57] <ubotu> _nAtic: Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[02:57] <Jucato> _nAtic: basically, -generic replaces the those architecture-specific kernels
[02:58] <probZ> need help
[02:58] <nuku> like -arm -mips -risc .. *just kidding* ;)
[02:58] <probZ> cant get installation to work
[02:58] <probZ> it just doesn't resize my partition
[02:59] <probZ> (IDE, NTFS)
[02:59] <haffe> Ok.
[03:00] <haffe> I have a problem with amarok.
[03:00] <haffe> I have uninstalled and installed libxine-extracodecs, but i still can't get it to play mp3s.
[03:00] <haffe> Amarok claims the format is not supported.
[03:01] <cloakable> Have you restarted amarok?
[03:01] <alexicon> haffe: do you have libmpeg3
[03:02] <haffe> libmpeg3-dev och libmpeg3-1 ?
[03:02] <haffe> or
[03:03] <_nAtic> omg all this stuff was so easy under suse
[03:04] <haffe> Ok, I installed libmpeg3-dev and libmpeg3-1. No change in amarok.
[03:04] <probZ> may s/o help me :( ?
[03:06] <chopin|pc> how do i use apt to find packages (without installing them)?
[03:06] <twosouls82> haffe: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:06] <_nAtic> so... that does it...
[03:06] <haffe> twosouls82: As I previosly said.
[03:07] <haffe> libxine-extracodecs is already installed.
[03:07] <chopin|pc> and ... how can i use apt to download a package and all its dependencies into one tgz so i can drop it on an unconnected machine?
[03:07] <_nAtic> i'll go and by some presents.... before i get stuck here with kubuntu for days
[03:07] <_nAtic> cu
[03:07] <twosouls82> ow, I missed that
[03:08] <seadiemarker> Ciao a tutti!
[03:08] <twosouls82> haffe: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libxine1 libxine-extracodecs amarok
[03:08] <twosouls82> then be sure to restart amarok
[03:09] <seadiemarker> Hello!
[03:09] <twosouls82> hi seadiemarker
[03:09] <haffe> Still no change.
[03:10] <twosouls82> haffe: run amarok from the commandline and watch the stdout for usefull messages
[03:10] <haffe> Just the same message. Do you want to install mp3support? And no chance to answer it.
[03:10] <twosouls82> that seems buggy to me :\
[03:11] <nuku> are you sure you restarted amarok and not just clicked the X so it goes into tray?
[03:11] <seadiemarker> Hi, I have a question, I have just installed kubuntu on my amd 64, I have tried both the amd 64 and 32 version, but I get the same problem. I can't execute any file
[03:11] <haffe> nuku: Yes.
[03:11] <haffe> to be certain.
[03:12] <haffe> killall -15 amarok
[03:12] <haffe> killall -15 amarokapp
[03:12] <haffe> Still no change.
[03:13] <seadiemarker> I am trying to install x-plane, I got the installer file from the xplane web site, then I extracted the file in home and I tried to execute it. No way
[03:13] <nuku> haffe: try playing a mp3 with xine to make sure its not a xine codec issue
[03:14] <kay> hello i have troubles with grub i have installed kubuntu and now i installed windows xp pro on the first partiton now i installed grub again normaly last time it works but now grub dont start windows the is an error message "filesystem type unknown, partion type 0x7" can somebody help me?
[03:14] <Bulwinkle> fetchmail
[03:14] <ubuntu> #join rzeszow
[03:14] <haffe> nuku: Xine works perfectly
[03:15] <twosouls82> haffe: engine in amarok set to xine?
[03:15] <abattoir> probZ: needed me?
[03:16] <kay> hello i have troubles with grub i have installed kubuntu and now i installed windows xp pro on the first partiton now i installed grub again normaly last time it works but now grub dont start windows the is an error message "filesystem type unknown, partion type 0x7" can somebody help me?
[03:16] <haffe> Ok, this is really odd.
[03:16] <twosouls82> !flood | kay
[03:16] <ubotu> kay: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:17] <twosouls82> and think of the rest =)
[03:17] <haffe> twosouls82: nuku: The problem was solved when I removed a sambashare from my iPod qeue
[03:17] <twosouls82> haffe: file it as a bug
[03:17] <twosouls82> :\
[03:17] <haffe> I have little confidence in the bug fixing.
[03:17] <twosouls82> don't, they do!!
[03:17] <haffe> I have had a bug filed since 6.06 that gets no attention.
[03:17] <twosouls82> ;)
[03:18] <twosouls82> haffe: bug # ?
[03:18] <Lynoure> haffe: if you can make a patch, do. it will get much more attention that way
[03:19] <twosouls82> jorik: 'kulnet', well that is not nice in your language =)
[03:19] <llutz> hi
[03:20] <haffe> twosouls82: #71149
[03:20] <sercik> sould i ask?
[03:20] <sercik> could i ask?
[03:20] <sercik> i have used automatix2 to install some software and also swiftfox and plugin
[03:21] <jorik> twosouls82: kul? it's the university of my sister ....
[03:21] <compilerwriter> I am going to do a fresh install with edgy.  I am using an old Dell 8200 anyone have an opinion on whether to use the desktop or alternate desktop version?
[03:21] <sercik> but swiftfox is 32bit is right? why install 32bit version?
[03:21] <twosouls82> kul = nonsence in Belgian/Dutch right, or do we spell that differently?
[03:21] <twosouls82> jorik --^
[03:21] <sercik> i have understood that there is no flash 32 bit plugin is right?
[03:22] <crimsun> sercik: s/32/64/g
[03:22] <sercik> crimsun: what do you want to tell?
[03:22] <haffe> Kul? That's swedish slang for fun.
[03:22] <jorik> twosouls82: well it's an archaic word ... noone really uses it, even the "modern" usage (eg flauwe kul) is gettin replaced (by bullshit)
[03:23] <twosouls82> jorik: lol not here :)
[03:23] <crimsun> sercik: There is no 64-bit version yet. There exists a 32-bit version.
[03:24] <sercik> so for this automatix2 install 32bit version of browser?
[03:24] <sungam> !automatix > sercik
[03:24] <twosouls82> jorik: I like about the Belgians that they are more creative with the Dutch language, not adopting all English words, but finding better translations
[03:24] <twosouls82> jorik: that makes you win 10-voor-12 all the time
[03:24] <twosouls82> =)
[03:25] <jorik> twosouls82: yeah some of my teachers are from holland and they say words like 'feedback' and 'deliverable' all the time
[03:25] <sercik> i understand tha automatix2 is not perfect but it will help me!
[03:25] <twosouls82> tell me about it, I am one of those too :'(
[03:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy all! :)
[03:26] <twosouls82> heya BluesKaj :)
[03:26] <jorik> hehehe
[03:26] <jorik> shame on you :o)
[03:27] <twosouls82> jorik: I can't switch languages that fast, so chatting, reading, talking English all day makes it hard to switch back to Dutch now and then
[03:27] <twosouls82> sue me!
[03:27] <twosouls82> :)
[03:28] <BluesKaj> is there anyone here who has managed to get mythtv to work on an ATI card  ?
[03:28] <LjL> i solve that by not switching
[03:28] <twosouls82> Jucato: use Moscovics
[03:28] <jorik> hmm, for me the problem is more that we don't have all the words the english ppl have (mostly computer terms), we're not as hardcore as the french (telecharger le logiciel du reseau global)
[03:28] <compilerwriter> Anyone have an opinion on the matter at hand with me?
[03:28] <Lynoure> I can switch very easily between Finnish and English. Dutch I do not speak well enough to know
[03:28] <jorik> so i often find myself simply switching to english in the midst of a discussion, even with people ive known for year
[03:29] <Lynoure> compilerwriter: opinions, sure. But what's the matter at hand?
[03:29] <twosouls82> Lunoure; the grammar is one thing, my smokes the second
[03:29] <compilerwriter> I am about to do a fresh install on an old Dell 8200.
[03:29] <sercik> I have used automatix2! is better to reinstall another copy of Kubuntu and follow restricted formats guide?
[03:29] <Lynoure> compilerwriter: 6.06 or 6.10?
[03:30] <compilerwriter> I would like to know if I should use the alternate i386 or the standard desktop version of Edgy.
[03:30] <compilerwriter> 6.10
[03:30] <Lynoure> compilerwriter: no opinion on that, really. I'd go with standard.
[03:30] <LjL> sercik: it's probably "better" imho, but if everything's working nicely for now, i guess you don't really want to bother doing that...
[03:30] <twosouls82> 'Lunoure' ? a bash completion error in Konvi
[03:30] <LjL> sercik: just keep in mind that when upgrading you might encounter [serious]  problems
[03:31] <Lynoure> twosouls82: What?
[03:31] <sercik> i have had a problem to install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:31] <BluesKaj> !Mythtv & ATI
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Mythtv & ATI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <compilerwriter> Thank you for the help Lynoure
[03:31] <sercik> so i have let automatix do it for me
[03:31] <Jucato> compilerwriter: it depends on the installation options that you need. the Desktop CD only has a very very basic installation. not much options
[03:31] <sercik> if i write apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree there is no response
[03:32] <compilerwriter> Jucato I only need to be able to surf, use openoffice, and view my media files.
[03:32] <twosouls82> Lynoure: I said something to you, the completion of Konvi made it Lunoure, while that user didn't even exist
[03:32] <crimsun> sercik: do you have multiverse enabled?
[03:32] <sercik> yes
[03:32] <twosouls82> nothing important
[03:32] <washbear> !virus
[03:32] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:32] <compilerwriter> I need to get wine to work with IE
[03:32] <Lynoure> twosouls82: wow :)
[03:32] <crimsun> sercik: paste me the apt-cache policy output
[03:32] <compilerwriter> too come to think of it.
[03:32] <LjL> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:32] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:32] <sercik> i have added some repositories to sources.list also
[03:32] <crimsun> sercik: use pastebin
[03:33] <twosouls82> LjL: flash 9  beta is there out too
[03:33] <sercik> crimsun: which is the command that i must run exactly?
[03:33] <Jucato> compilerwriter: then the desktop CD will be good enough, unless you need to have LVM or RAID support, or want to use reiserfs, or want to install GRUB in some other place
[03:33] <LjL> twosouls82: i know... i'm not sure it's beta anymore though
[03:33] <crimsun> sercik: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[03:33] <compilerwriter> What the bloody hell is reiserfs?
[03:33] <twosouls82> LjL: it's is according to the website of Abode
[03:33] <LjL> compilerwriter: a filesystem
[03:33] <twosouls82> they only show the 7 and 6 one
[03:34] <LjL> twosouls82: i see
[03:34] <The_Machine> what's a good GUI ftp for kubuntu?
[03:34] <compilerwriter> How does it work.
[03:34] <LjL> konqueror ;)
[03:34] <Jucato> The_Machine: konqueror
[03:34] <crimsun> !flashplugin-nonfree dapper-backports
[03:34] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 12 kB, installed size 100 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:34] <crimsun> ^^ twosouls82
[03:34] <The_Machine> :/  fine.
[03:34] <The_Machine> heh
[03:34] <LjL> also, "apt-cache search kde ftp" - simple enough, there aren't too many choices ;)
[03:34] <compilerwriter> What is LVM
[03:34] <sercik> someone could explian me to use pastebin?
[03:34] <The_Machine> heh
[03:34] <Jucato> specially on KDE
[03:34] <jpedroza> Good morning! I just switched to Kubuntu from Mandriva and am wondering what would be comparable to urpmi.
[03:34] <The_Machine> alrighty!
[03:34] <The_Machine> Thanks LjL
[03:35] <twosouls82> !flashplugin-nonfree dapper-backports | LjL
[03:35] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 12 kB, installed size 100 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:35] <twosouls82> thanks crimsun +)
[03:35] <LjL> compilerwriter: it works like other filesystems... it uses a tree structure for filesystem data, it uses metadata journalling...
[03:35] <haffe> jpedroza: That would be adept.
[03:35] <LjL> compilerwriter: LVM means Logical Volume Management. what exactly it is, i'm not sure
[03:35] <twosouls82> The_Machine: kasablanca or kftpgrabber
[03:35] <compilerwriter> Must have something to do with hard drives then.
[03:36] <compilerwriter> I understood raid, but have only one hard drive.
[03:36] <LjL> compilerwriter: yes
[03:36] <The_Machine> trying kftpgrabber
[03:36] <The_Machine> (stupid name.. bah!)
[03:36] <sercik> crimsun: could explain me hot to use pastebin?
[03:36] <jpedroza> Sorry, pppd connection dropped
[03:36] <crimsun> !paste |sercik
[03:36] <ubotu> sercik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:36] <twosouls82> compilerwriter: I can set a raid or a 'series' (which results in one)
[03:36] <Jucato> compilerwriter: then clearly you have no need of the alternate install CD :)
[03:37] <viz> has anybody a clue about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317243 (beryl problem) thx
[03:37] <compilerwriter> Thanks for the help.
[03:37] <twosouls82> compilerwriter: after the bios I get the FastTrack control menu, perhaps you have something like that too
[03:37] <jpedroza> So is apt-get the preferred method of installing software under kubuntu?
[03:38] <danny500> Um I'm having a problem with programs getting kicked off all of a sudden for no reason, whats going on?
[03:38] <haffe> jpedroza: Yes.
[03:38] <LjL> jpedroza: APT is the preferred method. precisely which front-end you use is mostly your choice
[03:38] <sercik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36633/plain/
[03:38] <Jucato> jpedroza: apt-get, aptitude, Adept, they all use APT, as LjL said
[03:39] <danny500> #ubuntu
[03:39] <Weam> Hi everyone, i installed kubuntu 6.06 some day ago, all went fine. Tho im getting problems with GRUB, it hangs at Loading Stage 1.5 / Hard Disk Error, and i've found out it has something to do with my S-ATA disk.. i googled some and found out i need to update my BIOS to make it work, tho i already had the latest so thats screwed.
[03:39] <Weam> A guy help me install LILO instead of GRUB but i got some Fatal error cuz of raid (?) tho im not using any raid, but i guess my S-ATA controller identifys it as a raiddisk. Is there any way of making it work? Any known solutions?
[03:39] <sercik> crimsun is ok?
[03:39] <Weam> Here is a guy with the same problem, also the same motherboard as me: http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub%40gnu.org/msg10559.html
[03:39] <michaelpo> how do i play flv files in kubuntu?
[03:39] <michaelpo> flash file
[03:40] <Weam> apart from him tho i only got one s-ata disk and uses the whole thing for linux so no dualboot etc
[03:40] <crimsun> sercik: you don't have multiverse active
[03:40] <sercik> i check
[03:40] <Al-Daja> how can i install an wireless network?
[03:41] <twosouls82> !wireless | Al-Daja
[03:41] <ubotu> Al-Daja: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:41] <Al-Daja> armin portugues?
[03:41] <viz> Al-Daja: sudo wlassistant
[03:41] <Al-Daja> thx guys gonna check it
[03:41] <sercik> this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36635/plain/
[03:41] <eilker> !krdc
[03:41] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 968 kB
[03:42] <sercik> for crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36635/plain/
[03:43] <eilker> is krdc used between kde's or is it possible kubuntu and windows ?
[03:43] <eilker> !krfb
[03:43] <ubotu> krfb: Desktop Sharing for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 921 kB, installed size 1644 kB
[03:47] <sercik> plese someone could help me to install non free plugins
[03:48] <BluesKaj> !nonfree
[03:48] <twosouls82> !codecs
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <twosouls82> hehe BluesKaj, slower, but strike ;)
[03:48] <michaelpo> i feel... kubuntu is a little bit unresponsive.... after i click something.. it is not immediately actioned.... windows is quite responsive.... is there a setting somewhere?
[03:48] <BluesKaj> hehe, well I'm old :)
[03:48] <eilker> !rdp
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: prolly much older than me, but who isn't =)
[03:49] <BluesKaj> 63 ....retired geezer
[03:50] <BluesKaj> <---- retired geezer... who still rocks , but it's in blues/rock band, not a rocking chair :)
[03:50] <BluesKaj> living in northern Ontario gives me lotsa "linux" time in the winter
[03:52] <Milchmaedchen> "command >> error.log 2>&1" streams errors of the command to the file error.log. is their a possibility to catch the messages via grep? command | grep msg >> error.log 2>&1 does not work
[03:54] <llutz> Milchmaedchen: spilit output with tee
[03:54] <llutz> split
[03:54] <Milchmaedchen> thx i'll read the manual
[04:02] <sercik> please someone could explain me hot to make flash work on kubuntu 64bit?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> sercik, which browser are you using
[04:04] <BluesKaj> ?
[04:04] <sercik> i'm using firefox
[04:04] <Milchmaedchen> llutz: thank you. works fine
[04:05] <sercik> Blueskaj i want to reinstall kubuntu because i have used automatix2 but before i want understand hot to solve problems with flash!
[04:06] <BluesKaj> ok sercik, go to youtube , if flash isn't installed , FF will ask you if you want to install a flash plugin , then just follow the instructions
[04:06] <RadiantFire> you can also do about:plugins in the address ba
[04:07] <sercik> Blueskaj the problem is that doesn't exists a 64 bit version
[04:07] <BluesKaj> my way is easier for noobs
[04:07] <sercik> in fact automatix2 install 32 bit swiftfox
[04:07] <sercik> can you help me on how to install 32 bit version of firefox and its plugins?
[04:07] <BluesKaj> oh geez, I dumped the 64 vers cuz osf those problems
[04:08] <BluesKaj> sorry i don't know of any other way than to reinstall kubuntu 32 bit version...that's what i had to do.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> there might be a way , but i don't know what it is
[04:09] <sercik> thank you blueskaj
[04:10] <RadiantFire> there is a way of doing it, try googling for ubuntu, flash and chroot
[04:10] <sercik> i'm searching for someone that have installed firefox 32 bit and flash plugin under kubuntu 64 bit
[04:11] <twosouls82> touch twosouls82
[04:16] <verzonnen> no bytes twosouls82
[04:16] <_nAtic> !dapper
[04:16] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[04:16] <_nAtic> !edgy
[04:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:16] <verzonnen> !me
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <_nAtic> edgy and dapper are just names for ubuntu versions?!?!
[04:17] <twosouls82> verzonnen ?
[04:17] <verzonnen> yes _nAtic
[04:17] <LjL> _nAtic: yes. Edgy Eft and Dapper Drake, actually
[04:17] <verzonnen>  touch twosouls82 no bytes
[04:17] <_nAtic> omg, how confusing
[04:17] <twosouls82> hehehe verzonnen, nice one made up there :P
[04:18] <angasule> adept says another app is using the database, but I just rebooted (because it was giving me that error), so I guess there's just a lock somewhere, how do I remove it?
[04:18] <verzonnen> twosouls82: next time try "finger"
[04:18] <twosouls82> verzonnen: I just was joking (melig)
[04:19] <verzonnen> twosouls82: ok
[04:19] <twosouls82> but thanks vezonnen, didn't know of that one
[04:20] <sercik> could someone advise me for the best repositories to add on kubuntu 64 bit without causing problem?
[04:20] <twosouls82> s/vezonnen/verzonnen/g
[04:21] <nAtic> !mp3
[04:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:23] <verzonnen> angasule: automatic updates might have it locked
[04:23] <verzonnen> angasule: have a look in the taskbar and see if you see something flashing
[04:24] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | angasule
[04:24] <ubotu> angasule: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:25] <verzonnen> twosouls82: /off-topic here is a fun link for you http://lhqi.com/~chunky/sex.html
[04:25] <angasule_> it didn't crash, but adept failed to update because of a conflict
[04:25] <verzonnen> angasule_: is the automatic updater running?
[04:25] <twosouls82> traceroute: unknown host http://lhqi.com/~chunky/sex.html
[04:26] <angasule_> verzonnen: not any more, I rebooted
[04:26] <Jucato> angasule_: same thing. just do the commands
[04:26] <stefan_> does someone  know how I can a 64bit debian able redy for 32bit software?
[04:26] <angasule_> thanks :) that command fixed it nicely
[04:27] <nAtic> stefan_: whaaat?
[04:27] <twosouls82> do'h, I used the whole url on traceroute :\
[04:27] <palemmo64> !italian
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <LjL> !it
[04:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:29] <RoKFiT> i'm having a problem with KTorrent, after torrents have finished it keeps complaining they're not there.
[04:30] <krache> !GR
[04:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[04:30] <angasule_> apparently, there is a BROKEN (installed) package, I want to uninstall it, but it won't let me...
[04:31] <twosouls82> jeeeeesss verzonnen
[04:31] <nAtic> erm
[04:31] <twosouls82> =)
[04:31] <nAtic> how to Navigate to "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties" with KDE?!?!?!
[04:31] <kay> !paste
[04:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:32] <twosouls82> en bedankt verzonnen :) for your vote of confidence on me :\
[04:32] <nAtic> rooken is dodeljik
[04:32] <nAtic> how to Navigate to "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties" with KDE?!?!?!
[04:32] <RoKFiT> who?
[04:32] <nAtic> who o0?
[04:32] <jpedroza> Can anyone tell me how to get Cervisia and Kompare to install? They are greyed out in the Adept installer.
[04:32] <kay> can somebody look at this and tell me what this means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36643/
[04:32] <Jucato> !adept | nAtic
[04:32] <ubotu> nAtic: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:32] <LjL> nAtic: you can't. there is no such application in Kubuntu
[04:32] <twosouls82> hahaha, so you smoke Dutch cigarettes nAtic?
[04:33] <nAtic> i dont
[04:33] <RoKFiT> nAtic: adept_manager
[04:33] <nAtic> great...
[04:33] <nAtic> so what about adept manager
[04:33] <nAtic> all tutorials are not about the adept manager :P
[04:33] <LjL> nalioth: what you can do is K / System / Adept / View / Manage Repositories
[04:33] <RoKFiT> i'm having a problem with KTorrent, after torrents have finished it keeps complaining they're not there.
[04:33] <kay> !de
[04:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:33] <Jucato> so many lines....
[04:33] <nAtic> well
[04:33] <LjL> nAtic: what you can do is K / System / Adept / View / Manage Repositories
[04:33] <nAtic> i know how to add repos
[04:34] <nAtic> but i don't know WHAT repos to add -.-
[04:34] <LjL> nAtic: well the tutorial that was given just above is about Adept
[04:34] <nAtic> <-- needs repos
[04:34] <LjL> nAtic: erm... and what does that have to do with *either* Adept or Software Properties? :P
[04:34] <nAtic> where to get? :P
[04:34] <RoKFiT> nAtic: enable all
[04:34] <Jucato> nAtic: repos for what?
[04:34] <scythe128> what programs are people using to do video capture?
[04:34] <nAtic> repos for everything
[04:34] <Jucato> !repositories | nAtic
[04:34] <nAtic> no kernel-of-the-day stuff
[04:34] <ubotu> nAtic: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:35] <LjL> nAtic: "everything"? it's just a Linux distribution, man
[04:35] <kay> !grub
[04:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:35] <nAtic> just everyday stuff :] 
[04:35] <nAtic> goddammit, i know, they are divided
[04:35] <nAtic> but i don't know where to get some new
[04:35] <LjL> !repositories
[04:35] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:35] <Jucato> nAtic: will you please read it first before complaining?
[04:35] <nAtic> ....
[04:35] <nAtic> complaining is by default "ON"
[04:35] <nAtic> :P
[04:35] <Jucato> your "everyday stuff" is covered by the stuff in Ubuntu's own repositories
[04:36] <Jucato> there is basically no need to add 3rd party repositories for your "everyday" stuff.
[04:36] <Jucato> the only thing you need to manually add (as in type it) is the "multiverse" repository
[04:36] <LjL> nAtic: what's the problem though? the page just above ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu ) explains how to add *all* official Ubuntu repositories, *in Adept*
[04:36] <RoKFiT> Jucato: i'm having a problem with KTorrent, after torrents have finished it keeps complaining they're not there.
[04:37] <nAtic> kay, so i have to use the ubuntu repos
[04:37] <Jucato> RoKFiT: don't really know how to help you there
[04:37] <jpedroza> LjL: Do those help pages apply to 6.10?
[04:37] <kay> nAtic: what you mean i dont talk with you i mean i do it now but i dont do it before
[04:37] <RoKFiT> sob
[04:38] <LjL> jpedroza: they're for 6.06, but i don't think it's any different
[04:38] <jpedroza> Cause my Adept looks totally different from the ones in the help pages...
[04:38] <nAtic> lol, kay :D
[04:38] <Jucato> there were no changes made to Adept in 6.10
[04:38] <LjL> jpedroza: hm well, hold on. right now i'm installing (a lot of) stuff using apt-get, so can't access my Adept
[04:38] <nAtic> did not know, there is really somebody with that nick
[04:38] <Jucato> except for the change in the name...
[04:38] <nAtic> just use it as short form for okay
[04:38] <jpedroza> LjL: I don't have the icons across the top for updates and preview changes, etc...
[04:39] <kay> lol
[04:39] <malix0> hi all, someone else have my problem, on a PC upgraded to Kubuntu 6.10 from 6.04 the logout dialog don't display icons on buttons, but ony text, where I can search for this?
[04:39] <nAtic> ^^
[04:39] <Jucato> jpedroza: huh? something's wrong. you can add them manually anyway
[04:39] <jpedroza> LjL: I prefer apt-get. Is there a way to add them in there?
[04:39] <nAtic> there is no gui for configuring grub?
[04:40] <LjL> jpedroza: if you add them to Adept, they'll be added to apt-get as well (and synaptic, and aptitude, and whatever you have installed). those package managers all use the same backend (APT)
[04:40] <LjL> jpedroza: but if you prefer to do it from the console,
[04:40] <LjL> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:40] <LjL> there's a console page on there
[04:40] <LjL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[04:41] <VSpike> !sound
[04:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:41] <jpedroza> LjL: I will check them out
[04:41] <Jucato> jpedroza: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit your sources.list
[04:42] <stamen> hi
[04:42] <piotsze> malix0: personally i would try to: "sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop" and than: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[04:42] <nAtic> !ndiswrapper
[04:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:42] <stamen> waht program to use to make an image of a partition
[04:42] <nAtic> rar
[04:42] <ThePub> stamen: man dd
[04:42] <stamen> what program to use to make an image of a partition
[04:43] <stamen> ok
[04:43] <stamen> is it GUI based or text
[04:43] <nAtic> text!
[04:43] <malik__> in kubuntu you can use Keep
[04:43] <stamen> do you know somthing that is GUI based
[04:44] <stamen> malik__: I wan't to back up my root, because I wan't to try edgy
[04:44] <malik__> stamen: if u goto system n then to keep backup that should do the job
[04:44] <nAtic> what about rar?
[04:44] <nAtic> xarchiver?
[04:45] <stamen> and the other question is, is Edgy work properly
[04:45] <nAtic> -.-
[04:45] <malik__> edgy rocks
[04:45] <nAtic> has some nice features
[04:45] <stamen> nAtic: why rar, it makes archieve
[04:45] <nAtic> so, why an image?
[04:45] <nAtic> just a backup
[04:45] <malik__> i have tried alotta distros over the last few wks but im likin kubuntu edgy better than any
[04:46] <nAtic> tried suse, malik__
[04:46] <nAtic> ?
[04:46] <stamen> malik__: is it working properly with nvidia
[04:46] <nAtic> hehe
[04:46] <nAtic> it does not
[04:46] <ThePub> stamen: read about dd, I'm not steering you wrong.
[04:46] <malik__> yes
[04:46] <nAtic> you need workarounds, stamen
[04:46] <stamen> ThePub: ok
[04:46] <malik__> i just installed nvidia for my geforce2 mx 400 card n so far np
[04:47] <stamen> and there is no problem with xorg
[04:47] <nAtic> i've installed nvidia for my geforce 4 ti, and it crashed my x conf
[04:47] <nAtic> an hour ago, or something
[04:47] <malik__> nAtic: which driver glx or legacy?
[04:48] <nAtic> glx
[04:48] <stamen> so, tell me, to upgrade or not to Edgy
[04:48] <nAtic> upgrade
[04:48] <nAtic> or NTARS
[04:48] <stamen> what is NTARS
[04:48] <nAtic> never touch a running system
[04:48] <nAtic> !ntars
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntars - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <stamen> :)
[04:48] <nAtic> -.-
[04:48] <malik__> stamen: go for it if you want my opinion, not that im an expert...........im a newbie myself
[04:48] <nAtic> damn bot
[04:49] <nAtic> how do i know my synaptic crashed?
[04:49] <nAtic> "prepairing pakets for install..."
[04:49] <stamen> malik__: the problem is, that I made an upgrade when they make the release (oficial)
[04:49] <stamen> but the xserver crashed
[04:49] <malik__> specially if you want multimedia support then edgy is gr8
[04:49] <nAtic> wha-wha-what?
[04:49] <stamen> and after that I reinstall the system
[04:49] <nAtic> edgy is no final?
[04:50] <stamen> no
[04:50] <stamen> its now final
[04:50] <nAtic> wha-wha-what
[04:50] <nAtic> ah, okay
[04:50] <nAtic> 6.10
[04:50] <nAtic> ?
[04:50] <stamen> but the problem was with the final version
[04:50] <stamen> and especialy for xserver
[04:50] <stamen> it was unsatble
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[04:50] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 12 2006, 09:50:59
[04:50] <stamen> unstable
[04:50] <scythe128> any body been able to get the sound working on an ATI TV wonder Pro yet?
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> gah okay
[04:51] <nAtic`suse> @now baden-baden
[04:51] <nAtic`suse> @now berlin
[04:51] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: December 12 2006, 16:51:26
[04:51] <nAtic`suse> right
[04:51] <stamen> thats why I am asking so many questions
[04:51] <nAtic`suse> hm
[04:51] <nAtic`suse> i also should have...
[04:51] <stamen> @now Sofia
[04:51] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Sofia: December 12 2006, 17:51:48
[04:51] <piotsze> @now warsow
[04:52] <VSpike> gah.. linux sound systems make my brain hurt
[04:52] <michaelpo> which screensaver turn off the screen instead of blank... as blank still have some backlight.....
[04:52] <scythe128> ok, we have learned how to get the time.... can we quit no?
[04:52] <stamen> :)
[04:52] <scythe128> whats the problem vspike?
[04:53] <VSpike> I've just put back in my second sound card.  I want to use that card just for Skype.  But Skype doesn't seem to take any notice of my device selection.  So I was trying to figure out even how to test that card is working.
[04:53] <VSpike> It shows up in KMix, but I can't work out how to just make an app play some sound to it
[04:53] <jpedroza> LjL: That seems to be working, thanks!
[04:54] <VSpike> Should be simple, but I find all the different architectures pretty confusing because I dont have any real idea how they interrelate
[04:54] <malik__> michaelpo: try the system setting n then monitor and display n power settings n decrease the default time of 45 min to 15 min that shud do the trick for u
[04:54] <scythe128> you could try jack.. you can route output from anywhere to anywhere
[04:54] <VSpike> In KDE system settings, which is the optimum sound system to select? ALSA?
[04:55] <VSpike> Certainly with one card, everything seemed to be working fine.
[04:55] <nAtic`suse> alsa or xine
[04:55] <nAtic`suse> not this helix stuff ^^
[04:55] <scythe128> xine is a media player
[04:55] <scythe128> I use alsa, but I only have one card active
[04:55] <nAtic`suse> aw, yes... i mean the amarok properties
[04:56] <VSpike> I know OSS is bad, but I'm not sure about ESD vs. ALSA
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> VSpike: Alsa is good
[04:56] <malik__> ALSA is better
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> i enjoy it
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> nAtic`suse: i'd use xne for amarok but that's all
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i have a class to get to
[04:56] <wallace> 	x)
[04:57] <nAtic`suse> wha wha wha what?
[04:57] <Admiral_Chicago> !en
[04:57] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:57] <malik__> !koffice
[04:57] <ubotu> Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubuntu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-16.php (for Dapper) and http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-161.php (for Edgy)
[04:57] <VSpike> scythe128: there seem to be lots of Jack-related packages.. which are the essential parts?
[04:58] <scythe128> jackd and jackeq are the two I have installed
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Ok. I just found a 200gb hard drive in the closet.. with a BIG tag on it "possibially flakey hard drive" :)
[04:58] <scythe128> after you get the packages installed you will have to manually start your server with sudo jackstart -d alsa
[04:58] <Dr_willis> What would be a good way to test the drive/format/ to verify if its garbage or good?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> Its allready empty except for a file that says "This_Drive_May_Be_Flakey"
[04:59] <Dr_willis> amazing the parts one finds in the closet.
[05:02] <jpedroza> I had forgotten how slick apt-get was. I used to use it under Yellowdog years ago.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Yep. Package managers  - 'the unsung hero of the linux world'
[05:02] <trappist> I thought yellowdog was yum
[05:02] <Dr_willis> trappist,  Me also. :)
[05:02] <jpedroza> trappist: You can use either, at least you could under 3
[05:03] <jpedroza> both are installed in a default installation
[05:04] <delphine> hello world :)
[05:04] <nickste> how do I update beryl to 0.1.3? It isn't showing up as upgradable in adept
[05:04] <malik__> sould one install firewall on linux?
[05:05] <nickste> malik_: are you behind a router?
[05:05] <malik__> yes darn thing has firewal and NAT  enabled
[05:05] <nAtic`suse> can i run the same apps wit
[05:06] <nAtic`suse> eeer
[05:06] <nAtic`suse> i mean
[05:06] <llutz> malik__: then forget about "firewall"
[05:06] <nAtic`suse> can i run kde apps with gnome?
[05:06] <llutz> nAtic`suse: sure
[05:06] <nAtic`suse> key
[05:06] <nAtic`suse> kay
[05:12] <malcolm> my kubuntu computer won't connect to the lan at all and idk what more to do.  can some1 help me?
[05:13] <haffe> The lan in what meaning?
[05:13] <malcolm> the wire's fine(it connects on the windows hdd)
[05:13] <haffe> What is it you would like it to do?
[05:13] <malcolm> local area network
[05:13] <malcolm> i want to connect my home network, and i can't
[05:14] <haffe> Yes. But what is it that you want the machine to do? Connect to the internet? Acces network shares?
[05:14] <malcolm> it was connected the other day, and all i've done since then is boot into windows.  no changes to linux
[05:14] <malcolm> connect to anything, the internet, and the other computers
[05:15] <haffe> OK.
[05:15] <haffe> We will work from the begining.
[05:15] <haffe> Start a konsole and type ifconfig
[05:15] <jpedroza> Is there any way to mount an NTFS formatted drive in Read/Write Mode or is it read only
[05:15] <malcolm> i did that
[05:15] <haffe> Do you have an ip then?
[05:15] <malcolm> no
[05:16] <haffe> Ok.
[05:16] <malcolm> it's set to dhcp
[05:16] <haffe> Ok, then type sudo dhcpcd eth0
[05:16] <weswh-> whenever i mount a drive (sudo mount device path), it is only really avail to root. (sometimes in weird cases drives have been semi avail to my user). which means i can't copy stuff around easily, and also makes the mount not work when i run applications at a user level. i have seen some guides that tell you how to make it avail to users if you are editing fstab - but if i am just doing a quick temporary mount, how do i accomplish this
[05:16] <weswh-> through command line?
[05:16] <malcolm> and if its set to static it will have an ip but not a connection
[05:17] <haffe> weswh-: just copy the syntax from the howto on mouting drives in fstab.
[05:17] <haffe> umask uid and so on.
[05:17] <haffe> malcolm: How are adresses assigned on your network?
[05:18] <frankal> how can use the root wint kubuntu
[05:18] <malcolm> it's telling me: bash: dhcpcd: command not found
[05:18] <malik__> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r -o uid=1000                for kubutnu
[05:18] <fdoving> !rootsudo | frankal
[05:18] <ubotu> frankal: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:18] <tony__> how can i write a ntfs partition that mounted
[05:18] <haffe> Sorry malcolm. I was stuck in gentoo.
[05:18] <frankal> ok  thanks
[05:19] <haffe> tony__:  You need special drivers that are only in beta.
[05:19] <malcolm> i set them manualy, but they can also be set automaticaly
[05:19] <haffe> malcolm: I was stuck in gentoosyntax. sudo dhclient eth0 is what you should type.
[05:20] <malcolm> i used to have that computer set to 192.168.2.98, until it wouldn't connect and i messed around trying to get it to connect
[05:20] <haffe> Ok.
[05:20] <tony__> get it, thanks
[05:20] <haffe> Try typing sudo dhclient eth0
[05:20] <nickste> for the beryl repo. What do i add to the end of the line to get amd64 support?
[05:21] <malcolm> i did, whatever it's doing it doesn't seem to be connecting to anything, or picking up an ip address
[05:22] <malcolm> it told me no dhcpoffers recived
[05:23] <malcolm> what else is there to do?
[05:23] <malcolm> besides reformat and reinstall
[05:24] <weswh-> malik__: i did "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/firewire -r -o uid=1000" - and my user can access the drive, but all of the folders i need have lock icons over them. this is an HFS (macosx) partition so i am not sure what that means if anything permission wise. even if i access the drive via root, i can't copy the files to my other disk (it says they don't exist). yet i can play files off of it
[05:24] <weswh-> the only way i can access the drive even under the new mount, is kdesu konqueror
[05:26] <malik__> weswh-: well one more suggestion i can offer is chk in the user management that your user id is 1000 n if not change it with the one mentioned in there. plus this command will give u only read n copy access not write access
[05:27] <malik__> what command are u usin for copyin files?
[05:28] <malik__> u cant copy them ouside ur home user directory in linux
[05:28] <malik__> it has to be in ur home directory
[05:29] <weswh-> yeah, that's where i was trying to copy to
[05:30] <weswh-> and i was using drag and drop through konqueror, to copy
[05:30] <Dr_willis> argh - i need a game for a 6 yr old.. to baby sit for a while. :)
[05:30] <weswh-> yeah, my uid is 1000
[05:30] <paolo> Hi: i need that kubuntu automounts a cd-rom, after instering it: is it possible?
[05:30] <malik__> try copy command thru konsole
[05:31] <Dr_willis> paolo,  you refering to an AUDIO cd? or a data cd?
[05:31] <malcolm> i've got my computer set to static ip address, with the ip as 192.168.2.98, the default gateway to 192.168.2.1, the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, and the broadcast to 192.168.2.255, but still no connection.  what's wrong?
[05:31] <paolo> Dr_willis: data cd
[05:32] <malik__> cp /dev/hda1/music /home/weswh-/linux musix                     that could do the trick
[05:32] <malcolm> also there's no light next to the lan cable showing that it's connected
[05:32] <haffe> malcolm: Is there a virtual ethernet card that is bound to an ipadress on your machine?
[05:32] <haffe> This could mean there is no driver loaded for your nic.
[05:32] <malcolm> u mean the loopback?
[05:32] <paolo> malik, are you answering to me?
[05:33] <malik__> no
[05:33] <malcolm> but there was a driver less than a week ago
[05:33] <malcolm> i was on the internet on linux less than a week ago
[05:33] <malcolm> i changed nothing and come back to it and it's not working
[05:33] <VSpike> fscking skype pos
[05:33] <jeroen__> Hi all i just onnected a psp to my linux do i need do download a prog to upload files to my psp?
[05:34] <Dr_willis> every time i pop in a data cd - it pops up a window asking to access it..
[05:34] <Dr_willis> jeroen__,  enable usb support feature on the psp - and it 'should' show up as a usb drive
[05:34] <paolo> Dr_willis, any idea?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> paolo,  Thats the kind of feature i personally disable. :) i tend to open up that 'storage media' dir. and rightclick/mount the disks
[05:35] <Dr_willis> paolo,  but it 'should' be allready asking if you want to mount them.. its a kde setting. perhaps it got disabled some how.
[05:36] <CaseyOmah> What is the command to install grub into hda2?
[05:36] <jeroen__> thx dr willis:d
[05:36] <paolo> Dr_willis, do you remember the associated config file?
[05:36] <CaseyOmah> I'm in LiveCD mode now.
[05:36] <paolo> (anyway, i don't think it's a kde setting)
[05:37] <CaseyOmah> What is the command to install grub into hda2 from Live CD?
[05:37] <weswh-> malik__: "cp: omitting directory `/media/firewire/Users/wes/Music/windows'"
[05:39] <malik__> weswh-:so its still noy workin?
[05:39] <php-freak> Hey guys I just downloaded kde, but how can I make my font smaller, and desktop text more precise looking like windows, cause all my apps look too big, fonts way tooo big
[05:39] <php-freak> http://www.zimmertech.com/images/kubuntu.jpg this guys desktop seems too look good
[05:40] <weswh-> malik__: nope, that's what it told me when i tried to cp
[05:40] <weswh-> i can see all of the files and even run them (through root)
[05:40] <kkathman> php-freak:  alt-f2,  kcontrol is the key to all the settings in KDE
[05:40] <Dr_willis> paolo,  nope.. id have to explore all the kde settings.. I think it was under desktop config. or that may bee where ya set to show/hide the icons ON the desktop.. thers also a 'removeable' media config tool.
[05:40] <weswh-> i tried that cp in a clean root shell
[05:41] <php-freak> kkathman: i hit it, and did not get anythign
[05:41] <kkathman> php-freak:  then KDE isnt installed correctly
[05:41] <php-freak> its kubuntu
[05:41] <kkathman> php-freak:  then click the K menu and choose System Settings and try that :)
[05:42] <php-freak> nice I see you can 2nd click on your mouse button, and configure
[05:42] <php-freak> everything
[05:42] <malik__> weswh-: then ask Dr_willis................im a newbie myself
[05:42] <malik__> dont know toomuch sorry
[05:43] <kkathman> php-freak:  right-clicking on the desktop just allows you to configure the desktop things, system-settings will allow you to change color-schemes, styles, fonts, etc
[05:44] <weswh-> malik__: nah man, thanks for the help
[05:44] <Dr_willis> I tend to add the 'settings' applet/menu item to the Panel - makes it MUCH MUCH easier to get to the 'settings/controlcenter'
[05:44] <weswh-> i just don't get it - it seems to me like the drive is inheriting permissions from the macos system or something
[05:45] <weswh-> because my experience so far has been that if something is mounted without user access, you can't get into it period. you just go to the mount point and get permission denied.
[05:45] <kkathman> Dr_willis:  not a bad idea if you are changing things often :)  I still like kcontrol instead of system settings, personally tho :)
[05:45] <kkathman> so on my panel I have kcontrol :)
[05:45] <weswh-> this is different, i can dig around a little - and then i get "locked" out of certain folders (the user folders from the mac system)
[05:45] <kkathman> greetings LeeJunFan :)
[05:46] <malik__> weswh-: cud be macs security system but stll weird
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: haven't seen you this channel in a bit.
[05:47] <kkathman> LeeJunFan:  hehe... been very very busy, and actually just started using kubuntu again after working with a couple of other distros :)
[05:47] <scythe128> there, thats better
[05:47] <php-freak> okay one  how do I adjust all my windows, fonts, and etc. too look similar to windows how its reall small, and precise?
[05:48] <kkathman> php-freak:  system-settings
[05:48] <php-freak> which one do i go to?
[05:48] <php-freak> lol guide me int he right direction
[05:48] <kkathman> php-freak: try them all - start with appearance and go from there
[05:48] <scythe128> any one know if ubuntu is capable of handling WAP?
[05:48] <CaseyOmah> Okay, I'm in LiveCD mode and I need to install grub into /dev/hda2 but whenever I grub> root (hd0,1) it says "Error 22: No such partition" I know it's there, it contains my complete linux install
[05:49] <hyper_ch> Seveas: thx for the W32codecs repo :)
[05:49] <CaseyOmah> Seveas: have you released an Edgy depo?
[05:49] <CaseyOmah> Seveas: Err repo?
[05:50] <LjL> CaseyOmah: yes
[05:50] <LjL> !seveas
[05:50] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Dang it.. trying to find a game a 5 yr old can play with the joystick...
[05:50] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[05:50] <scythe128> doc, supertux :)
[05:50] <malik__> pacman or tetris
[05:50] <Jucato> frozen bubble!!!
[05:50] <scythe128> well, maybenot... it requires two buttons
[05:51] <Jucato> heh.. joystick..
[05:51] <scythe128> frozen bubble is the debbo, it is too addicting
[05:51] <Jucato> didn't read that part :P
[05:52] <scythe128> tuxcart? maybe
[05:52] <kkathman> tuxcart is fun :)
[05:53] <scythe128> kkathman, ive been addicted to super tux ever since I found it :)  Tuxcart doesnt run so well on my systems for the most part though
[05:53] <kkathman> hehe
[05:53] <zorglu_> http://tremulous.net :)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> There we go... snes emulator.. and packmman
[05:54] <Dr_willis> hmm.. pacman is too hard for him.....
[05:54] <ninHer> i am looking for some scaner software (ocr based)
[05:55] <scythe128> frogger?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> he spends more time dead then live.. :P
[05:55] <malik__> kooka scan
[05:55] <Dr_willis> heh.. he just figured out how to hit the start button.. there he goes...
[05:55] <Dr_willis> now if he had 10000000000 lives
[05:55] <malik__> !kooka scan
[05:55] <ubotu> kooka: scanner program for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 737 kB, installed size 1200 kB
[05:55] <Jucato> Kooka is installed by default, btw
[05:55] <Jucato> it's in K Menu -> Graphics
[05:56] <ninHer> thanks malik__ and ubotu
[05:56] <ninHer> uhm, then i need the scaner drivers
[05:56] <ninHer> epson perfection v 10
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Luckly i got some 1000+ SNES games for hom to try
[05:57] <Jucato> !scanner | ninHer
[05:57] <ubotu> ninHer: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:57] <ThePub> it's just so early in the morning :(
[05:57] <ninHer> thanks both
[05:57] <eMaX> hi all
[05:57] <ThePub> good morning
[05:58] <eMaX> on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148600 I read how to install encfs. Yet if I use apt-get -install encfs, it tells me it could not find the package. I am new to ubuntu, so can anyone explain what I need to do in order to find the package?
[05:59] <zorglu_> !info encfs
[05:59] <ubotu> encfs: encrypted virtual filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-1-1 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[05:59] <zorglu_> e
[05:59] <zorglu_> eMaX: type "sudo apt-get install encfs"
[05:59] <zorglu_> eMaX: without the - before install
[05:59] <ThePub> he may need to add the universe too
[05:59] <ThePub> and do a db update
[05:59] <zorglu_> eMaX: the package is there
[05:59] <scythe128> are there any games for xmame or other emulators that have been released for legal download/play?
[06:00] <ubuntu> sqlq;
[06:00] <eMaX> ok I did this sorry yet it seems not to be there. Do I have to configure any special "repositories" where to look for packages first?
[06:01] <scythe128> emax, you need to enable universe
[06:01] <eMaX> can you tell me, how?
[06:01] <zorglu_> !universe
[06:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:01] <eMaX> thanks
[06:01] <zorglu_> eMaX: go tread this link
[06:01] <scythe128> thanx zorglu
[06:05] <nickste> when I try and open adept, it says that something else is using adept. I have tried restarting, etc. and it gives the same msg. It started giving this message after adept crashed during an update.
[06:05] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | nickste
[06:05] <ubotu> nickste: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:05] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[06:06] <LjL> !adept crash fix
[06:06] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:06] <nickste> thanks
[06:06] <The-Compiler> Hello
[06:08] <bezxyw> Saluton! :)
[06:09] <eMaX> zorglu_: Thank you. You helped me a lot.
[06:09] <zorglu_> eMaX: my pleasure
[06:10] <kkathman> hmm.. having problems playing wmv video files, in kaffeine even though I have w32codecs... is there another one I need?
[06:11] <zorglu_> kkathman: some wmv are not supported, the ones with drm
[06:11] <zorglu_> are not = was not last time i looked
[06:12] <kkathman> these are not drm - Im getting a message that a suitable plugin doesnt exist, zorglu_ :)
[06:12] <zorglu_> how did you check they have no drm ?
[06:12] <RadiantFire> kkathman: libxine-extracodecs
[06:12] <RadiantFire> kkathman: also install w32codecs
[06:12] <RadiantFire> o cam
[06:12] <RadiantFire> i can't remember which has the wmv plugin
[06:12] <kkathman> as you might see above, w32codecs I already have
[06:13] <kkathman> but I will try the others
[06:13] <kkathman> hmm those are already there also
[06:13] <RadiantFire> then your win32 installation is broken, because I'm looking at my codecs, and there are definately wmv codecs there
[06:14] <kkathman> this is a bit odd, as I could play these wmvs on SUSE using standard kaffeine :(
[06:14] <RadiantFire> there is a config option in kaffeine for xine
[06:14] <RadiantFire> make sure that beginning options for decoder has extra codecs pointing to /usr/lib/win32
[06:15] <RadiantFire> whoops, I just hit apply instead of cancel and it killed my amarok
[06:15] <RadiantFire> ll
[06:15] <bezxyw> [`]  amarok
[06:16] <kkathman> RadiantFire:  ahh... I see the problem
[06:17] <RadiantFire> what was it?
[06:17] <kkathman> RadiantFire:  was trying to play over the network from another box
[06:17] <RadiantFire> really?
[06:17] <RadiantFire> thats strange
[06:17] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:17] <RadiantFire> actually I don't think thats kaffeine's fault
[06:17] <RadiantFire> I think its xines
[06:17] <RadiantFire> oh well
[06:17] <kkathman> RadiantFire:  when I play locally it works fine, but trying to play from a windows server on the network - it doesnt...hmmm
[06:18] <kkathman> thats odd because audio from that server is fine
[06:18] <RadiantFire> mmm, I dunno
[06:18] <RadiantFire> well, at least you found it
[06:19] <kkathman> I may have to mount that server directory in my fstab and then try it
[06:19] <kkathman> then it should look local :)
[06:19] <RadiantFire> that'll do it
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Weird.. I put in this IDE controller card.. and the drives on it showed up as hda/b/c/d - making hte onboard ide controller drives show up as  hde.
[06:26] <eMaX> hallo slow-motion
[06:26] <slow-motion> hi eMaX
[06:27] <eMaX> anyone here has google-earth running on an ati radeon chipset? I have 3d acceleration (fgl_glxgears), yet google-earth simply doesn't start up past its splash screen
[06:27] <Narada> guys; i just installed java6 but how do i get update-alternatives to notice that there is a new java?
[06:28] <eMaX> isn't 6 new enough? :)
[06:30] <Narada> yeah but i want it :)
[06:32] <raiden> hello
[06:32] <BluesKaj> eMaX, i managed to get google earth working ok on Radeon with 3d accel (fgl_glxgers)...maybe try a reinstall ?
[06:33] <raiden> sorry do ask but does anyone know a good p2p client for kubuntu?
[06:33] <angasule> raiden: what kind of p2p?
[06:33] <eilker> !amule
[06:33] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[06:33] <raiden> any kind for downloading
[06:34] <BluesKaj> !xmule
[06:34] <ubotu> xmule: eMule client for the edonkey2000 network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.0b-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 891 kB, installed size 2800 kB
[06:34] <eilker> !ktorrent
[06:34] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[06:34] <BluesKaj> !xmule is better
[06:35] <BluesKaj> !azureus
[06:35] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[06:35] <raiden> ok thanks for the info so how is everyone?
[06:35] <bill57785> how can I install the JRE? I don't ave a compiler I don't think
[06:36] <raiden> i had to do it under the shell mode
[06:36] <BluesKaj> adept or synaptic
[06:36] <raiden> built in compiler
[06:36] <frankal> i can't play a video with kaffeine player, There were no decoders found to handle the stream, i might need to install the corresponding plugins
[06:37] <bill57785> how do you use the built in compiler then? what command?
[06:37] <haffe> gcc
[06:37] <haffe> Or whait. Is it g++
[06:37] <raiden> not only that it depends on what the filetype is lol
[06:37] <noobie> when i try to use firefox i get this message: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:37] <haffe> g++ file.cpp I think.
[06:37] <bill57785> lemme check
[06:37] <noobie> any help?
[06:38] <bill57785> wait
[06:38] <bill57785> it's a binary
[06:39] <raiden> ouch
[06:39] <raiden> havent had this os long enough to figure that one out
[06:39] <bill57785> so I think it's already compiled
[06:39] <bill57785> I just can't get it to run
[06:40] <korrx> kubuntu 6.10 rox
[06:40] <korrx> Hi to all Users
[06:40] <bill57785> man
[06:41] <bill57785> I downloaded the binary for the installation
[06:41] <bill57785> for my distro
[06:41] <bill57785> but it won't run
[06:41] <bill57785> when I try to run it directly, it tells me permission denied
[06:41] <raiden> hmmm
[06:42] <raiden> did you do it under the root directory?
[06:43] <frankal> i can't play a video with kaffeine player, There were no decoders found to handle the stream
[06:43] <raiden> did you download all teh updates
[06:44] <raiden> the**
[06:44] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <frankal> ok
[06:49] <pulaski> hello
[06:49] <korrx> for all who should have decoders problems : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/automatix
[06:49] <korrx> solve a lot of boring install of nonfree codecs and so on
[06:50] <noobie> is anyone using firefox on kubuntu?
[06:50] <korrx> I am, but swiftfox
[06:50] <noobie> i cant seem to get the libraries it is asking for, to load
[06:51] <BluesKaj> automtix is iffy ...itworks but if you install thru it you uninstall thru it as well, otherwise broken pkgs :(
[06:51] <korrx> maybe
[06:51] <korrx> wich packets you mean ?
[06:51] <korrx> packages
[06:51] <korrx> Ooops
[06:51] <BluesKaj> google earth for one
[06:51] <korrx> broken ?
[06:52] <noobie> yeah, i need libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[06:52] <noobie> but i can only find it in rpm form
[06:52] <korrx> didn't have any prob like this one
[06:52] <BluesKaj> it breaks other pkges with some of the same libs dependencies
[06:53] <korrx> ... sorry for that
[06:53] <korrx> apt-get update ?
[06:53] <noobie> didnt try that
[06:53] <korrx> wooch
[06:54] <korrx> as soon as you add repositories for automatix
[06:54] <noobie> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:55] <noobie> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:55] <korrx> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:55] <korrx> if u wanna do manually
[06:55] <korrx> but exit all apt or adept process first
[06:56] <BluesKaj> noobie , you have either or synaptic still open ...close the pkg managers then do it
[06:56] <BluesKaj> adept
[06:56] <korrx> right
[06:56] <noobie> alright
[06:59] <eMaX> wow ubuntu is really cool
[06:59] <korrx> I'm a poor lonesome kowboyz
[06:59] <korrx> yep
[07:00] <gio> salve
[07:00] <BluesKaj> eMaX, google earth ok now ?
[07:00] <korrx> hope so
[07:00] <eMaX> BluesKaj, I already tried to reinstall google-earth, didn't help. never mind. thanks anyway
[07:01] <korrx> anyway : there is a .run too to install it fingers in the nose
[07:01] <BluesKaj> well, maybe remove then install again
[07:01] <eMaX> I'm just happily watching all my encrypted data reappearing magically from my backup and wait for that to finish. then I'll try google-earth again.
[07:01] <korrx> it installs in your /home/user  directory
[07:01] <eMaX> Coming from SuSE, I can really say, Ubuntu is a big leap forward. SuSE has just gotten crammed with stuff you never need.
[07:02] <korrx> 2 dirs : googleearth and .googleearth
[07:02] <korrx> !
[07:02] <BluesKaj> not google-earth , google earth ...they're different ...beleive it or not
[07:02] <eMaX> I installed Ubuntu, and out of the box everything was working except 3d, which I was able to get working with some googling.
[07:02] <eMaX> well I downloaded from earth.google.com
[07:02] <korrx> eMax : Nvidia or Ati ?
[07:03] <eMaX> ati
[07:03] <korrx> ;)
[07:03] <BluesKaj> i used synaptic . eMaX
[07:03] <korrx> did it last night
[07:03] <korrx> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/ati
[07:03] <korrx> but google is my friend
[07:04] <eMaX> korrx tnx
[07:05] <korrx> no problem
[07:05] <korrx> if no prob ;) great
[07:05] <eMaX> bon, j'ai fait aticonfig --initial; added the "extensions" bit, added fglrx to /etc/modules
[07:05] <korrx> did it too ; and IN FIRST PLACE in that file
[07:06] <eMaX> korrx well there is "lp" in front, but that shouldn't matter
[07:06] <eMaX> fglrxinfo gives
[07:06] <korrx> glgears -printfps after a clean X reboot
[07:06] <korrx> glxgears -printfps after a clean X reboot
[07:06] <korrx> oooops
[07:07] <korrx> I placed it before lp
[07:07] <eMaX> display: :0.0  screen: 0; OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.; OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY FireGL V3200 Pentium 4 (SSE2) (FireGL) (GNU_ICD); OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
[07:07] <korrx> that was for an Ati X800
[07:07] <korrx> anyway : tutorial linked below should work for a lot of ati cgs
[07:08] <eMaX> 7184 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1436.690 FPS
[07:08] <korrx> ;)
[07:08] <korrx> great
[07:08] <korrx> good work
[07:08] <eMaX> so that's not so bad
[07:08] <slocum> hi
[07:08] <eMaX> yet google-earth (with "-") doesn't start up
[07:08] <ubuntu_> hi
[07:09] <eMaX> korrx and especially: I have never seen SuSE successfully hibernate or standby with fglrx active. It crashes always. With Ubuntu, it worked right out of the box.
[07:09] <korrx> do you have automatix added repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:10] <eMaX> Of course that means Ubuntu costs me a lot of time... .oO(playing Quake)
[07:10] <korrx> playing Quake too
[07:10] <korrx> ;)
[07:10] <eMaX> automatix?
[07:10] <korrx> yes
[07:10] <eMaX> what is that
[07:11] <korrx> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/automatix
[07:11] <php-freak> okay guys I'm having one problem with kbuntu but everything else seems fine, like in firefox, and etc. How do i make the icons smaller?
[07:11] <casev01> someone knows how can i change the icon of the kde menu?
[07:12] <casev01> a newbie question....
[07:12] <kkathman> Anyone here have experience mounting a windows directory in Kubuntu using the fstab?
[07:12] <kkathman> via samba of course
[07:12] <cloakable> kkathman: Ja
[07:12] <LjL> kkathman: err, i had one mounted on dapper, but it went away when i installed edgy, and never bothered to look at the syntax again =)
[07:13] <eMaX> letme see. Actually I apparently stopped using firefox as the actual konqueror is good enough :)
[07:13] <LjL> !samba
[07:13] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:14] <kkathman> cloakable or LjL  I put the following in my fstab :   \\192.168.0.108\Backups\vids  /mnt/videos cifs credentials=/etc/samba/sharename.auth,uid=kkathman,gid=kkathman 0 0
[07:14] <LjL> kkathman: perhaps the backslashes will work as well, but i've always used forward slashes
[07:14] <php-freak> php-freak
[07:14] <php-freak> Hey guys on kbuntu how do I adjust  the applications icon size?
[07:14] <kkathman> then did a sudo mount -a && mount, and I get an Error 6 mount error 6 = No such device or address
[07:15] <php-freak> I guess that would be the dpi settings
[07:15] <kkathman> but I know that the path exists, I can open that in a konq window
[07:16] <kkathman> LJL you mean someting like  \\192.168.0.108/Backups/vids   ??
[07:16] <php-freak> How do i adjust my dpi settings on kbuntu?
[07:16] <noobie> where are programs intalled to? is ther a common dir?
[07:16] <LjL> kkathman: no. well, yes, but also // at the beginning
[07:16] <kkathman> ok lemme try that
[07:16] <LjL> noobie: no, files are scattered around, but the executables are mostly in /usr/bin
[07:16] <kkathman> I just copied that line directly out of my suse fstab and made the appropriate changes
[07:16] <LjL> noobie: you can do "dpkg -L <packagename>" to see a list of files owned by a given package
[07:17] <noobie> aha
[07:17] <LjL> kkathman: also, are we sure uid and gid accept plaintext?
[07:17] <kkathman> LJL well they did in suse 10.0 and 10.1
[07:17] <kkathman> I dont know about kubuntu tho
[07:18] <kkathman> I'd thing they were the same LJL
[07:18] <kkathman> it should all be governed by cifs (which is a standard I'd think)
[07:18] <LjL> kkathman: yeah, it should be the same i guess. i just wasn't sure
[07:20] <eMaX> anyone here has ubuntu running on a thinkpad? I wonder whether I'll get the drivebay hotswap to work
[07:20] <cloakable> Not yet :(
[07:20] <php-freak> How do I change Kubuntu dpi settings?
[07:21] <eMaX> thought so.
[07:21] <eMaX> it just locks the system when I try :)
[07:21] <php-freak> How do I change Kubuntu dpi settings?
[07:21] <eMaX> what is dpi settings? display resolution?
[07:22] <php-freak> eMax: well where everything won't look so large in my applications. Like the back back buttons, and etc in firefox is large, all icons in apps are very large they look toooo zoomed in or somethign
[07:23] <eMaX> ah ok I'm pretty happy but I've a resolution of like 1600x1200 so I'm not too unhappy about "large" icons.
[07:23] <php-freak> lol
[07:23] <php-freak> well at least i can make it look like windows, and make them smaller
[07:24] <eMaX> wuaa what a requirement "look like windows" :D
[07:24] <n8schicht> Beryl + Kubuntu: How to make the desktop switcher display open windows on the proper viewport? it will always be displayed on the 1st one. does somebody know how to solve this?
[07:24] <LjL> i'd rather have doors
[07:24] <n8schicht> ups, not open them, but show them on the proper viewport...
[07:25] <angasule> n8schicht: #beryl
[07:25] <n8schicht> angasule: nobody there who knows that
[07:25] <eMaX> korrx so automatix. I wonder what it gave me. I think I'll have to disable all other repositories for a moment in order to see the additions
[07:26] <korrx> no
[07:26] <korrx> you have it normally iin tour system menu
[07:26] <korrx> or suco automatix2 on prompt
[07:26] <korrx> sodo
[07:26] <korrx> ooops
[07:26] <LjL> !automatix
[07:26] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:26] <korrx> yes*
[07:27] <korrx> if your prob is google-earth related : no need to automatix
[07:28] <sercik> hi to all!
[07:28] <sercik> one question
[07:28] <Kixologix> thanks for the help guys. Got firefox 2.0 installed and flashplayer (which was my goal to begin with.) I think i may actually erase windows one of these days.
[07:28] <eMaX> I'll have a look at automatix
[07:28] <eMaX> oh
[07:29] <sercik> if i follow this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90919.html to make flash works on konqueror 64 bit the other plugins will continue to work?
[07:29] <eMaX> I disabled all other repositories, and adept_manager crashed on fetch updates from automatix ;)
[07:29] <korrx> great tool for me
[07:29] <sercik> qutomatix is not reccomended also if great
[07:30] <korrx> why disable other repositories ?!
[07:30] <sercik> someone have installed flash on konqueror 64 bit?
[07:30] <sercik> f
[07:30] <RadiantFire> its really not hard to just install all these things manually
[07:30] <RadiantFire> you realy shouldn't use automaticx
[07:30] <korrx> ok radiant
[07:30] <eMaX> what is the difference between easyubuntu, automatix2 and automatix2bleeder?
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: ping
[07:30] <RadiantFire> 2 copy pastes and like 3 searches
[07:31] <delphine> Admiral_Chicago: pong
[07:31] <sercik> ok
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: you speak french n'est pas?
[07:31] <RadiantFire> if ya'll have questions on which packages to install or repositories to enable to get support, I at least will be happy to help
[07:31] <sercik> i have reinstalled kubuntu to not use automatix2 now someone may help me?
[07:31] <korrx> no need except for codecs and easy-to-use install
[07:31] <LjL> ask in the respective channels eMaX. we don't support automatix here any more than we support windows
[07:31] <RadiantFire> i just get sad when people break boxes using automatix
[07:31] <LjL> sercik: doing what?
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: what is the problem?
[07:32] <eMaX> RadieantFire is it really so bad?
[07:32] <sercik> hi LjL i have followed what you tell
[07:32] <php-freak> ahh how can i change the dpi on kde?
[07:32] <sercik> i reinstalled kubuntu
[07:32] <RadiantFire> it doesn't always show up immediately, but automatix has been known to trash systems
[07:32] <sercik> now i must work to enable mpe etc etc
[07:32] <RadiantFire> i believe easyubuntu is safer, but I don't know how much
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> mpe?
[07:32] <sercik> hi admiral!
[07:32] <LjL> Admiral_Chicago: i always do that typo as well
[07:32] <sercik> i want to enable flash in konqueror
[07:32] <LjL> Admiral_Chicago: i even have an mpe -> mp3 autoreplace now :)
[07:32] <sercik> and i have found official guide
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> LjL: oh that
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted
[07:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:33] <jonathan_> has anyone used vmware server on kbuntu
[07:33] <LjL> sercik: for mp3, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:33] <korrx> sudo rm-rf /
[07:33] <korrx> :p
[07:33] <RadiantFire> er, don't do that
[07:33] <LjL> but yeah, read the page, it has just about everything you need
[07:33] <RadiantFire> that would end bery badly
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: add the multiverse and universe repo before that
[07:33] <LjL> korrx: please don't
[07:33] <sercik> ok ok i will follw guide i don't want to annoying you for this
[07:33] <korrx> lol
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> then follow LjL's command
[07:33] <korrx> ok no more joke
[07:33] <LjL> sercik: for flash you need to rescan plugins in konqueror, after you install it
[07:33] <sercik> the only thing i want to ask you is flash on 64 bit konqueror
[07:33] <LjL> and if you want flash 9
[07:33] <LjL> !flash9
[07:33] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[07:33] <eMaX> what means, in adept_manager, if In the "requested" column, I get a "DESTROY (install)"?
[07:34] <sercik> but 64 BIT!!!!!!
[07:34] <sercik> flash doesn't work with 64 bit
[07:34] <LjL> sercik: i don't think you can get flash on 64bit
[07:34] <stamen> !edgy
[07:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[07:34] <sercik> yes it works see:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90919.html
[07:34] <LjL> !flash64bit
[07:34] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:34] <delphine> Admiral_Chicago: yep, I am French
[07:35] <korrx> test your world knowledge : http://www.geosense.net/
[07:35] <sercik> ok ok
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: what does dfectueux mean in french? my french is very rusty
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic | korrx
[07:35] <ubotu> korrx: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:35] <sercik> but i'd like to install into konqueror
[07:35] <korrx> mon tailleur est riche
[07:35] <korrx> :p
[07:35] <delphine> defect
[07:35] <sercik> noone has done this there?
[07:35] <BluesKaj> defective
[07:35] <LjL> sercik: seems complicated to me. why don't you just run the 32 bit version anyway?
[07:35] <delphine> that does not work any more
[07:35] <sercik> 32 bit on konqueror?
[07:36] <LjL> sercik: no, Ubuntu 32-bit
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks all, i'm doing a bug report that had that word.
[07:36] <sercik> noooooooooooo
[07:36] <kkathman> LjL:  well it worked finally but its odd - I had to reference another share, then go back and put the one I wanted, very strange..obviously some bugs in cifs :)
[07:36] <eMaX> korrx le ca veut dire quoi "DETRUIRE" (install) dans adept_manager?
[07:36] <sercik> i will try to follow a guide
[07:36] <korrx> ??
[07:36] <sercik> the only problem is that the 64 bit plugin will not work anymore i think
[07:36] <korrx> DETRUIRE !
[07:36] <korrx> Kill Kill
[07:36] <korrx> !
[07:36] <sercik> this is the problem that i want to post here
[07:36] <korrx> :p
[07:37] <php-freak> any one know how i can change the dpi settings in kubuntu for apps?
[07:37] <sercik> but probably noone could help me!
[07:37] <eMaX> He says that when I try to "install" automatix2 (and I already saw that also on another package earlier today)
[07:37] <LjL> sercik, honestly using the amd64 version when you want stuff like flash, java, w32codecs etc seems like masochism to me
[07:37] <eMaX> ok I won't probably use automatix. doesn't make sense to break the system for google earth
[07:37] <korrx> you still have automatix so
[07:37] <sercik> but is possible to install 432bit version of what you need
[07:37] <korrx> sudo automatix2
[07:37] <LjL> !googleearth
[07:37] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[07:37] <sercik> excuse me 32 bit
[07:38] <LjL> eMaX: hm well, not what i had in mind
[07:38] <LjL> !plf
[07:38] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[07:38] <LjL> eMaX: those guys have google earth available
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: yes you can
[07:38] <LjL> (and i don't think it's down anymore)
[07:38] <php-freak> any one know how i can change the dpi settings in kubuntu for apps?
[07:38] <sercik> admiral can you help me a bit!
[07:38] <sercik> ?
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> you need to install it into a chroot or something like that
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> you jail it into a 32 bit enviroment
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: PM me if you wish
[07:38] <LjL> php-freak: put a   Screensize <h-millimeters> <v-millimeters>    entry in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, section "Screen"
[07:39] <jonathan_> i have installed vmware server but for some reason it wants me to connect to a remot host and not the local host
[07:39] <php-freak> LjL: thanks,
[07:39] <jonathan_> send me a pm if anyone has any suggestions
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm a bit busy so it may take a little wait
[07:39] <eMaX> ok I download it a 3rd time :)
[07:39] <LjL> php-freak: there's also an explicit DPI option, but i don't remember it (possibly just Dpi...). but anyway specifying the actual size in millimeters will work for all resolutions, so it might be better
[07:40] <korrx> eMax : what is your exact way to download it ?
[07:40] <LjL> php-freak: if you're using the nvidia driver, you might also need to specify Option "ReadEdidDpi" "False"   in section Device, since AFAIK the nvidia driver gets the DPI wrong and insists on them
[07:40] <eMaX> http://dl.google.com/earth/GE4/GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[07:40] <korrx> yes
[07:41] <korrx> you dowload it on your desktop, I suppose
[07:41] <korrx> so
[07:41] <korrx> open a terminal
[07:41] <korrx> and type
[07:41] <php-freak> LJL: so what do i look for again in the xorg.conf file?
[07:41] <LjL> php-freak: Section "Screen"
[07:41] <korrx> cd Desktop (assuming you are in your ~ dir)
[07:42] <CVirus> !ati
[07:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:42] <eMaX> well I put it in a directory I have for that, /inst/google-earth, I go there, chmod it to 755, then ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin or rather sudo
[07:42] <php-freak> okay found it, now what was you saying I added
[07:42] <php-freak> what would you recommended to make it smaller
[07:42] <php-freak> I wonder what windows is set too
[07:42] <korrx> and sudo sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin ; I guess ; thought it was a .run file ?
[07:42] <php-freak> xp
[07:42] <LjL> php-freak, i recommend that you put your real monitor size. not some fake DPI.
[07:43] <eMaX> well I just ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin now this time w/o sudo let's see
[07:43] <korrx> yes....
[07:43] <php-freak> LjL: How can I find out my real monitor size?
[07:43] <fdoving> php-freak: you can also edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc , search for 'ServerArgsLocal' and make it read 'ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 100' if you want an dpi of 100.
[07:43] <LjL> php-freak: wait, section Monitor, not section Screen
[07:43] <LjL> php-freak: ... a ruler?
[07:43] <LjL> php-freak:        DisplaySize     325 240  <-- this is my own entry
[07:43] <php-freak> lol okay
[07:43] <Rob-West> ok right now im running Kubuntu with my onboard video if i put a video card in my computer will i need to reload Kubuntu
[07:43] <php-freak> let me try 325 240
[07:43] <LjL> php-freak: and then, if you're on nvidia, in Section "Device",  you add          Option          "UseEdidDpi" "False"
[07:43] <eMaX> did I already say this is the most helpful Linux channel I've seen in years (and I've been on #linux and #linuxger since 1994)
[07:44] <fdoving> php-freak: i -think- my way is easier. :)
[07:44] <php-freak> i don't have nvidia
[07:44] <kkathman> Rob-West:  typically not - it should detect it fine
[07:44] <korrx> (k) eMax
[07:44] <Tresko> can anyone give a good advice on 56k analog modem for Kubuntu?
[07:44] <php-freak> Section "Monitor"
[07:44] <php-freak> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[07:44] <php-freak> 	Option		"DPMS"
[07:44] <php-freak> 	HorizSync	28-51
[07:44] <php-freak> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[07:44] <jonathan_> i have installed vmware server but for some reason it wants me to connect to a remot host and not the local host send me a pm with any suggestions
[07:44] <php-freak> thats what mine says
[07:44] <korrx> so it workz ?
[07:44] <kkathman> Rob-West:  I switched from onboard to nVidia FX5200 no problem
[07:45] <Rob-West> well im getting an Nvidia FX5500
[07:45] <Rob-West> PCI
[07:45] <jonathan_> they rnt worth it
[07:45] <Rob-West> not PCI Express
[07:45] <jonathan_> lol
[07:45] <jonathan_> i have installed vmware server but for some reason it wants me to connect to a remot host and not the local host send me a pm with any suggestions
[07:45] <kkathman> Rob-West:  should be fine...shut the system down, unplug, put the board in, plug up and reboot...should be just fine
[07:46] <Rob-West> ok
[07:46] <kkathman> then you might want to install the nvidia drivers
[07:46] <mc__> Rob-West: did you buy that crap?
[07:46] <mc__> Rob-West: you get a 7300 for 50 buks
[07:46] <Rob-West> i got this card free
[07:46] <mc__> well that is something different
[07:47] <jonathan_> i have installed vmware server but for some reason it wants me to connect to a remot host and not the local host send me a pm with any suggestions
[07:47] <jonathan_> thats kool
[07:47] <Rob-West> hes sending me it cux he wants me to try Beryl XGL
[07:47] <Rob-West> the compiz stuff
[07:47] <fdoving> !repeat | jonathan_
[07:47] <ubotu> jonathan_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:47] <korrx> Sure you see a nice cube ;)
[07:47] <eMaX> korrx well again it just hangs on the splash screen but you know what I'll let it hang around there for awhile
[07:48] <Rob-West> can someone help me set up Korn
[07:48] <Rob-West> im not good with the POP3 stuff
[07:48] <jonathan_> sry ubotu its just that this is getting really frustrating
[07:48] <korrx> eMax : do you execute your script with administrative rights (despite it installs i your home dir)?
[07:49] <eMaX> korrx 2 times I installed it as root, once as normal user
[07:49] <korrx> really dtrange
[07:50] <korrx> don't know further, eMax : your problem seems to be strange
[07:50] <eMaX> let me remove all references to it :)
[07:50] <korrx> do you have an old .googleearth in your ~ ?
[07:50] <eMaX> I am just removing everything I have  in terms of goole*
[07:51] <korrx> damned !
[07:51] <korrx> chmod 666 /dev/evil
[07:51] <eMaX> har
[07:51] <lazarus__> Ive just set up samba to connect to a windows machine (which was MUCH easier than I expected). what does the $ mean? I see folders after them. eg, C$. I assume thats my windows C drive
[07:51] <eMaX> it is a system controlled share
[07:52] <Rob-West> why did the GUI of Kubuntu mess up when i took it from onboard video to my old Radeon 9600
[07:52] <kkathman> lazarus__:  yup exactly
[07:53] <kkathman> Rob-West:  you went from nVidia to ATI probably....video driver is different
[07:53] <eMaX> let's try strace
[07:53] <Rob-West> well the onboard is a VIA chipset
[07:54] <notech> you didn't reconfigure X
[07:54] <kkathman> Rob-West: your system configures the xorg settings based on one video, you may have to manually adjust those settings
[07:55] <Rob-West> how would 1 do that
[07:55] <lazarus__> kkathman: but what does the $ mean? when I try to access those folders it asks for a password to match the windows username, but there is none. If I leave it blank it doesnt work.
[07:55] <php-freak> okay im back
[07:55] <php-freak> how can i restore all kde orginal settings?
[07:55] <frankal> how can i play karaoke
[07:56] <kkathman> Rob-West:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:56] <LjL> frankal: "apt-cache search karaoke"
[07:56] <lazarus__> frankal: first, get nice and drunk
[07:56] <kkathman> lazarus__:  security to your winbox
[07:56] <eMaX> korrx well strace googleearth finishes hanging on a line saying ioctl(8, 0xc00c645c
[07:56] <eMaX> strange
[07:56] <eMaX> I'll reboot
[07:56] <LjL> !packages | frankal
[07:56] <ubotu> frankal: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:56] <php-freak> LjL: how can i restore kubuntu all defaults settings?
[07:57] <php-freak> now my konversation window text is huge, I don't know what i changed, I just logged off, and logged back in
[07:57] <kkathman> lazarus__:  also you may wish to go to your windows box and rename the share name so that they arent C$ etc
[07:57] <eMaX> by the way: how can hide the kubuntu splash screen? not permanently, I'm looking for something like pressing "Esc"
[07:57] <LjL> php-freak: you can remove the .kde directory from your home. that will probably reset a *lot* of settings though, including (just for instance) the konversation logs
[07:57] <frankal> oops!!
[07:57] <php-freak> I put the xorg.conf file back to its normal think
[07:57] <php-freak> will it make another .kde directory?
[07:58] <LjL> frankal: no worries... just saying. but if you have Universe enabled, and type "apt-cache search karaoke", you have your answer - and this applies to most other situations as well
[07:58] <kkathman> php-freak:  yep next time you start KDE
[07:58] <LjL> php-freak: wait wait, what does xorg.conf have to do with KDE?
[07:58] <frankal> thaks
[07:59] <LjL> thank you for explaining
[08:00] <Dannilion> Blergh
[08:00] <lazarus__> kkathman: the shared windows folders dont have the $, and I can access them without a password. So, if I create a password for the windows user (currently it is blank) would I be able to access those non-shared windows folders?
[08:00] <Dannilion> I still can't get ndiswrapper to work, even following my own howto
[08:00] <eMaX> brb
[08:02] <kkathman> lazarus__:  why not just set those directories to a new share name?  Easily done in windows...Start-Explore, then right click on the partition/drive, click on sharing and set the share name
[08:02] <php-freak> okay I see what it was
[08:02] <php-freak> LjL: I know what I'm trying to do now, but don' tknow how to do it, I want to lower the dpi settings
[08:03] <LjL> php-freak, DPI is "dots per inch". you ideally (and practically, IMHO) want your software to believe the DPI as equal to the actual dots per inch on your screen. that's what DPI means.
[08:03] <lazarus__> kkathman: yes, but Im just wondering, if I supplied the password for the windows user, could I then access those $ folders, even though they are not explicitly shared?
[08:03] <LjL> php-freak: if fonts are too big, just go to the system settings and select smaller fonts
[08:03] <kkathman> lazarus__:  no of course not, because they arent shared :)
[08:04] <lazarus__> kkathman: so why is it asking for a password for those folders?
[08:04] <kkathman> lazarus__:  you can have the actual share name be C$... but you DO have to set it in Windows
[08:04] <LjL> php-freak: as a sidenote, i've also found that "Full" hinting (under the Anti-aliasing settings in the KDE Fonts configuration) gives much better rendering (at least for me) than the default Medium hinting
[08:04] <javier> help!!!
[08:04] <LjL> !helpme
[08:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:05] <php-freak> LjL: no its not the fonts, like when I open up firefox, some of the text looks too big, like where it says getting started. I want my windows just a little bit smaller, similar to windows, which I hate windows I love kubuntu just trying to give it a simlar loook.
[08:05] <eMaX_> re
[08:05] <javier> hay algun espaol?
[08:05] <kkathman> lazarus__:  windows detects that another user is trying to access its files, and its not you so it need to authenticate
[08:05] <php-freak> LjL: hold on, is anti aliasing suspose to be better viewing
[08:05] <LjL> php-freak: of fonts, yes. but that's already enabled by default
[08:05] <php-freak> k
[08:05] <LjL> php-freak: could you post a screenshot, so i can get an idea of the problem?
[08:05] <php-freak> yes
[08:05] <php-freak> great :)
[08:05] <php-freak> hold on
[08:06] <LjL> php-freak: i know about http://www.imageshack.us/ (make sure you un-select the option for resizing the image)
[08:06] <lazarus__> kkathman: right, so if I did authenticate with the right password, would I have access to the non-shared folders?
[08:06] <javier> sources.list default of kubuntu 6.06?
[08:06] <php-freak> k
[08:06] <korrx> yo
[08:06] <php-freak> LjL: how do i take a screenshot again
[08:06] <javier> korrx?
[08:06] <korrx> on which process ?
[08:07] <korrx> wazzup javier ?
[08:07] <kkathman> lazarus__:  a folder needs to be "shared" to be accessible across a network
[08:07] <javier> cuales son los sources.list default de kubuntu 6.0.6?
[08:07] <lazarus__> kkathman: so why are the non-shared folders visible at all?
[08:08] <korrx> sources.list : list of repoz for apt : common use in all debian like distros I guess
[08:08] <der_steppenwolf> hello, a have a question
[08:08] <der_steppenwolf> how can i see the change log between versions of packages in the ubuntu distribution?
[08:08] <php-freak> okay ljl
[08:08] <php-freak> got the screenshot
[08:08] <kkathman> lazarus__:  the folders show up for information's sake I guess, but the fact that they arent "shared" means only authoritative persons on that machine can access the data in the folders
[08:09] <LjL> php-freak: k / graphics / ksnapshot
[08:09] <LjL> or the PrintScreen keyboard button i suppose
[08:09] <kkathman> thats not an unusual thing
[08:09] <lazarus__> thanks for the straightforward answers, kkathman
[08:10] <javier>  I have a problem with sources.list of kubuntu dapper?
[08:10] <kkathman> your welcome  lazarus__ :)
[08:10] <korrx> sudo apt-get --help
[08:10] <fdoving> javier: what is the problem?
[08:10] <javier> I lose the sources.list default of kubuntu
[08:11] <fdoving> !sources.list
[08:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:11] <javier> ok
[08:11] <javier> thanks
[08:11] <fdoving> hang on.. not sure it works.
[08:11] <korrx> ksnapshot : default printscreen key binded
[08:11] <fdoving> !easysource | javier
[08:11] <ubotu> javier: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[08:12] <LjL> sorry php-freak, was messing with beryl and got a frozen X
[08:12] <javier> what?
[08:12] <javier> ok
[08:13] <php-freak> Ahh never mind, I thinkng, its the dpi settings, cause windows look a little bit smaller like everything, but I guess this will due
[08:13] <korrx> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[08:13] <korrx> deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[08:13] <korrx> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[08:13] <korrx> ## distribution.
[08:13] <korrx> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[08:13] <dreameen> guys
[08:13] <fdoving> !paste | korrx
[08:13] <ubotu> korrx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:13] <dreameen> how to get rid of the annoying power manager in kubuntu edgy??!
[08:13] <korrx> kubuntu edgy
[08:13] <php-freak> one question how do I turn the single click off on the icons, and does kubuntu support a spell checker on everything like ubuntu does
[08:14] <korrx> sorry for flood txt
[08:14] <LjL> php-freak: yes to the latter (just right click any textbox, like your konversation input textbox if you're using konv)
[08:14] <LjL> php-freak: for the former, i have to look, but it can be done
[08:15] <php-freak> nice auto spell check
[08:15] <php-freak> I like kubuntu way better then ubuntu
[08:15] <korrx> yo all leaving cya soon hope all is rolling on ; ....
[08:16] <korrx> kubuntu rulez
[08:16] <php-freak> Surprised every one don't use unix os's
[08:16] <php-freak> I just wish I could get my sound working
[08:17] <LjL> php-freak: alt+f2, type "kcontrol", go to Peripherals, Mouse
[08:17] <LjL> (i guess that's somewhere in System Settings as well...)
[08:18] <LjL> ah yeah, Keyboard and Mouse
[08:19] <php-freak> I wonder how i can disable my onboard mouse, in ubuntu I had to edit configuration files
[08:20] <joe3k> does anyone know some tool that can download a complete web site (incl links etc)?
[08:20] <LjL> !info wget
[08:20] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[08:21] <joe3k> LjL: hmmm i know wget but can it automatically download links?
[08:21] <LjL> joe3k: yes. see "man wget". look at the "-r" and "--mirror" options first.
[08:22] <joe3k> LjL: got it, thanks :)
[08:23] <php-freak> lol is some of this stuff like foreign language like knoqueror
[08:23] <miguel> g'night every one
[08:25] <miguel> i'm having this little problem when changing users in kde...when I change back, the screen hight streches a bit, which makes kicker partialy not visible
[08:25] <malik__> !KICKER
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KICKER - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <miguel> I also get some screen lines repeated( that fill the streaching )
[08:25] <malik__> !kicker
[08:26] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[08:27] <cpk1> i noticed that there is a hal update
[08:27] <cpk1> does that fix the automount problem?
[08:27] <malik__> what does kicker do?
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> malik__: it is the KDE panel
[08:28] <miguel> malik__: is the bar at the bottom of the screen
[08:28] <malik__> aaaaaah oki thanx
[08:31] <miguel> does anyone know about this problem?
[08:34] <gan|y|med> good evenning
[08:34] <gan|y|med> evening
[08:34] <malik__> evenin
[08:37] <php-freak> hey guys in kubuntu I got a file thats under /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudio-5.2.0/bin/zde, now how can i get this on my desktop so it will open up like it does under that folder? Cause if i just drag it to my desktop, it won't open up?
[08:37] <javier> hello!
[08:37] <php-freak> I got it, I just did link her
[08:37] <php-freak> link here
[08:38] <php-freak> How can I change the icons?
[08:38] <milaks> Hi. Can someone please tell me how can I disable some od those vertical tabs found in Kate and Kdevelop for instance?
[08:41] <milaks> Anyone?
[08:42] <miguel> milaks: in kdevelop you can turn off some plugins and some stuff at the project settings
[08:42] <php-freak> how can I change a icon into another icon on kubuntu
[08:43] <jpiccolo> would anyone know why gentoo can find my network card but, unbuntu and fedora cant?
[08:46] <frankal> thanks 4 all!!
[08:47] <woozigaru> does anyone know why ktorrent might keep resetting the "folder to store temporary files
[08:47] <woozigaru> ?
[08:49] <milaks> Hi. Can someone please tell me how can I disable some od those vertical tabs found in Kate and Kdevelop for instance?
[08:50] <milaks> In Kdevelop there are simply too many of them
[08:50] <milaks> and some of them are very similiar
[08:50] <kkathman> milaks:  you can get the source code and change them :)
[08:50] <kkathman> thats the beauty of OSS
[08:52] <milaks> kkathman: maybe that is the beauty for someone who has no better things to do, than to study some programs source code, and change somethig small as this. No offense, but I would like to find another solutioin, if there is such, if not never mind.
[08:53] <kkathman> well I assumed you were a coder, since you were using kdevelop, Im pretty sure you'd prolly need to change those yourself, as there isnt any way to configure them away to my knowledge
[08:54] <deitarion> Would you guys say Kubuntu is a good choice for an 864Mhz P3 with 128MB RAM and 20 GB of hard drive space?
[08:54] <kkathman> in kate there are ways to remove some of the things and/or move them elsewhere
[08:54] <milaks> kkathman: I'm a coder, but honestly I do not have time right now for that. So there's not any other way? Well never mind then :)
[08:54] <kkathman> i.e. window - tool view
[08:54] <abattoir> deitarion: it'd be slow
[08:55] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: it will work ok on it, but depends what your definition of 'good' is
[08:56] <deitarion> TheGateKeeper: I was thinking of putting my friend on IceWM with a few KDE apps. I figure that, if WinXP can play fansubbed anime on a 1Ghz Duron, an IceWM desktop should have no problem playing anime on an ~850Mhz box.
[08:56] <deitarion> Heck, I've achieved similar performance to Win98 on a 166Mhz 80MB laptop with IceWM.
[08:57] <deitarion> Also, I believe I read something about the standard installer requiring 192MB of RAM. What's the alternative?
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: probable work fine, but if you feel the 'need for speed' then try arch, but with that you only get a base system & you have to build the desktop yourself
[08:58] <deitarion> TheGateKeeper: I'd put him on Debian if I thought he'd take to Linux maintenance reasonably well.
[08:59] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: there is always the 'alternative' cd uses a text installer
[08:59] <deitarion> The main reason I want him on Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu is so he can have Synaptic or Adept.
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> I hate adept
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> pointless attempt at reinventing the wheel
[09:00] <cloakable> I like it.
[09:00] <cloakable> Reinventing what wheel?
[09:00] <deitarion> I'll probably start him off with Xubuntu since it'd give me an excuse to have an install CD for all 3 and I'm going to switch to IceWM anyway.
[09:00] <JacquelineG> are there any advantages to use the 64 bit version if you have a 64 bit chip?
[09:01] <cloakable> What is Adept imitating that uses the QT toolkit?
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: use the 'alternative' cd if the live cd gives you agrovation
[09:03] <deitarion> TheGateKeeper: I'm somewhat low on time, so I'll just start with the alternative CD. I'm a Gentoo user, so it won't be much trouble.
[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> cloakable: if QT was SO important it would have made more sence to port synaptic (or whatever) to it & go from there
[09:04] <abattoir> JacquelineG: the advantages are limited(as of now), if you are new to linux, i'd strongly recommend installing a 32-bit OS
[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: thought you where, know you from that 'other' channel :-)
[09:05] <JacquelineG> i hear flash is a problem with 64 though
[09:05] <JacquelineG> are they good speed gains?
[09:05] <cloakable> TheGateKeeper: Then GNOME would be without a native GUI package manager :P
[09:06] <abattoir> JacquelineG: actually, flash, java(w/ browser plugin), w32codecs etc. are all possible, one way or another in a 64-bit install
[09:06] <abattoir> JacquelineG: it's just that at the moment, it's not really friendly for the new user
[09:06] <JacquelineG> i see
[09:06] <JacquelineG> do video cards work pretty easily and well with 64?
[09:06] <abattoir> JacquelineG: if you don't need those stuff, you can run a 64-bit distro
[09:06] <TheGateKeeper> cloakable: not if you fork you dope!
[09:06] <abattoir> JacquelineG: which card?
[09:07] <JacquelineG> nv
[09:07] <abattoir> JacquelineG: i can't think of a reason why it shouldn't work
[09:07] <JacquelineG> do ati's suck with 64?  i know they are a pain in general with linux.  are they even more so a problem with 64 bit?
[09:08] <sampo-> How do I mount my second hard driver? I tryet mount /dev/sdb, but mount say, the he can not find it from fstab
[09:08] <sampo-> and I do not know what i need to edit fstab
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> sampo-: you want to do this manually or in fstab?
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> !fstab
[09:09] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:10] <sampo-> TheGateKeeper: Same to me, I'm tryign to do software-raid. >:P Perhap's too dificult to me.
[09:10] <TheGateKeeper> sudo mount /dev/<whatvever>  /mount/point
[09:10] <sampo-> or should it run fdisk first? It's empty, just installed
[09:10] <TheGateKeeper> sampo-: ^^^
[09:11] <TheGateKeeper> sampo-: you need to create partitions
[09:11] <cloakable> sampo-: Or cfdisk, if you have that. I find cfdisk easy to use.
[09:11] <TheGateKeeper> probable ext3
[09:12] <sampo-> ok. But kubuntu.org site says, the alternative installation disk if you want make raid, but there was not nothing about it, when I install
[09:13] <TheGateKeeper> sampo-: never really messed with raid, I would suggest a search of the forums
[09:14] <sampo-> ok
[09:20] <eMaX_> anyone seen so far cpp: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory
[09:24] <malik__> hgggghjg
[09:24] <iceman> hello all
[09:24] <proo> hi
[09:25] <iceman> for give me if I seem dumb. I am new to linux. had ubuntu for a few weeks and found kubuntu to be smoother.
[09:30] <florian> B'jour tout le monde :)
[09:41] <rafal_> czesc
[09:42] <metatecque> !english
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about english - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <php-freak> how can i edit what starts up on my sessions in kubuntu?
[09:48] <slow-motion> n8
[09:48] <php-freak> how can i edit what starts up on my sessions in kubuntu?
[09:49] <sercik> i'm happy i have succesfully installed 32 bit firefox with flash on kubuntu 64 bit
[09:50] <php-freak> sercik: do you know how to disable the laptop mouse on kubuntu?
[09:50] <php-freak> the touch pad?
[09:50] <php-freak> or better yet how can i edit the session what starts up with the machine, I had it disabled in ubuntu, but had to add a line to the session start
[09:52] <kkathman> php-freak:  kcontrol or system settings  - everything is there :)
[09:52] <sercik> i'm sorry i don't have a laptop
[09:53] <php-freak> under system settings I don't see my onboard mouse, I have to disable it in the xorf.conf file
[09:54] <php-freak> but i need to add a line to the sesssion to start up
[09:54] <kkathman> php-freak:  also if you cant find what you need, I'd refer you to http://wiki.ubuntu.com   a storehouse of how to do things
[09:54] <kkathman> php-freak:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[09:54] <kkathman> for example :)
[09:55] <php-freak> I know that
[09:55] <kkathman> php-freak:  as a new user, you'll find the wiki to be very useful
[09:55] <php-freak> kkathman: What im asking is how to a add a line to the session, I already disable the mouse under ubuntu, but when i install kubuntu today, its not disable, so i have to add it into the session
[09:56] <kkathman> why line are you talking about
[09:56] <kkathman> a command line you mean?
[09:57] <kkathman> command lines can be put in a bash script, then run via the Autostart
[09:57] <php-freak> no
[09:58] <jonathan_> when i log into the console of vmware server it asks me to log into a remote host how would i log into a local host
[09:58] <php-freak> sesssions
[09:58] <php-freak> I need to add a line into the session
[09:58] <php-freak> under ubuntu its at System->Preferences->Sessions
[09:58] <Rob-West> why r there no ops here
[09:59] <php-freak> but wheres it at on kubuntu
[09:59] <kkathman> Rob-West:  there are, but typically no one "stays" opped...Freenode guidelines
[10:01] <sercik> ciao kkathman!
[10:02] <kkathman> sercik:  greetings !
[10:03] <sercik> i have reinstalle dkubuntu
[10:03] <sercik> and now i have installed firefox32 with flash :)
[10:04] <Necros> Does anyone know if on my already installed Feisty installation, when CompositeByDefault is implemented whether it will autoimplement on my system, or if I'll have to set it up myself
[10:04] <bert> q: does anybody knows how to open .zip files in my kubuntu 6.06 dapper? thnx
[10:04] <php-freak> How do I access what loads up in the beginning of a session?
[10:05] <crimsun> Necros: it won't be "by default" since you've already gotten an installation.
[10:05] <Necros> alright, thank you
[10:05] <[Relic] > Is there anything that will give weather information and actually work?
[10:05] <php-freak> How do I access what loads up in the beginning of a session?
[10:06] <snake[gone] > Hows everyone doin
[10:06] <metatecque> howdy snake - you don't know me - but you found the right OS
[10:07] <snake[gone] > metatecque, Ive been running *buntu for over a year now, id say I have ;-)
[10:07] <snake[gone] > hey Admiral_Chicago
[10:08] <php-freak> How do I access what loads up in the beginning of a session?
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going snake[gone] 
[10:08] <snake[gone] > Man no one I used to talk to is in here any more
[10:08] <snake[gone] > Admiral_Chicago, Not too shabby
[10:08] <bert> does anybody knows how to open .zip files in my kubuntu 6.06 dapper? thnx
[10:08] <snake[gone] > !zip
[10:08] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:09] <[Relic] > kweather doesn't seem to ever take a station even if you edit the info  :(
[10:09] <bert> my ark always prompts a random error when opening a zip fil
[10:09] <snake[gone] > [Relic] , last time I used kweather it was broke :-(
[10:10] <[Relic] > still is, any other options?
[10:10] <metatecque> bert: make sure you have the command line operator for zip i.e. sudo apt-get install zip
[10:11] <bert> command line used ->says nothing changed...
[10:12] <metatecque> bert: I am running the same version as you and I can't see why it shouldn't work
[10:12] <bert> me neither, that's why i'm asking
[10:13] <bert> i just open ark, then file,open,select the zip and get a random error
[10:13] <metatecque> what does the random error say?
[10:14] <bert> "ther was a fault while opening archive
[10:14] <bert> "
[10:14] <[Relic] > hah!  got it working now if I could find non-metrics  :)
[10:14] <metatecque> hmmm - try a different zip file
[10:15] <bert> oh damn, it's the file that was corrupt, got it from the amsn official site (skins)
[10:15] <bert> 2 files of the 3 i wanted where corrupt
[10:15] <graft> erm... how do i get konsole to keep my encoding settings at some particular default (utf8)?
[10:16] <sNaKe> Man its been so long since I used KDE.. I shouldn't be in here, i'm going to end up reinstalling it and taking up diskspace :-D
[10:16] <Necros> eh, diskspace is cheap
[10:16] <[Relic] > now I need to find the config for the kweatherservice
[10:17] <MinceR> hi
[10:17] <graft> the config for kweather is there when you right-click the kweather applet...
[10:17] <metatecque> MinceR: Hello
[10:18] <MinceR> in adept, debconf fails to use the kde frontend, giving the message "dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0" -- how do i fix this? do i need to use xhost so that root can access the x server? (even though it's run from kdesu)
[10:18] <MinceR> i'm using ubuntu+ kubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <hermesreg> alguien me echa una mano para configurar kmail para recibir los emails de hotmail
[10:18] <graft> MinceR: if it's run through sudo, it ought to work anyway, but try xhost and see if it works...
[10:18] <hermesreg> bye im not patient
[10:19] <MinceR> can i expect to work with the next package it tries to configure after the change?
[10:19] <metatecque> Mincer: try using gksu
[10:19] <MinceR> i'll try that next time, then.
[10:19] <graft> what? you can disable access restrictions with xhost for your entire x session
[10:19] <BluesKaj> MinceR,  how about kde desktop
[10:19] <graft> so until you start a new one, it will work
[10:20] <MinceR> BluesKaj: what do you mean?
[10:20] <Necros> Snake, you can get a 9 GB harddrive for only 5 bucks, new.
[10:20] <sNaKe> Necros, so? :-)
[10:21] <sNaKe> I got plenty of disk space
[10:21] <sNaKe> But installing KDE tends to make things ugly, the two DMs dont get along quiet well
[10:21] <Lord_Flasheart> hi, i have managed to turn off the menu bar and browsing bar in konqueror
[10:21] <Lord_Flasheart> does anyone know how to turn them back on again?
[10:21] <Vladdy> congratulations ;P
[10:22] <Lord_Flasheart> is there a key combo?
[10:22] <graft> Lord_Flasheart: kcontrol
[10:22] <graft> Lord_Flasheart: or ctrl-m
[10:23] <Lord_Flasheart> awesome
[10:23] <Lord_Flasheart> thanks loads graft
[10:23] <Lord_Flasheart> you are a hero of the highest magnitude
[10:23] <graft> i always found that annoying
[10:23] <Lord_Flasheart> :)
[10:23] <graft> if you didn't bother to learn the keycode, it's a bitch and a half figuring out how to get it back
[10:23] <metatecque> Q? has anyone done a wiki on keyboard shortcuts
[10:23] <metatecque> ?
[10:24] <Lord_Flasheart> is there an option in kcontrol somewhere aswell then?
[10:24] <BluesKaj> in the run command
[10:24] <graft> um, maybe not...
[10:25] <Necros> Snake, if you've got plenty of disk space, why sweat running KDE?
[10:25] <Necros> Run them in seperate installations
[10:25] <sNaKe> because as I said, that tends to make both DEs ugly :-)
[10:25] <Lord_Flasheart> groovy, well thanks dude
[10:25] <sNaKe> lol thats okay man, i'm on a gnome kick atm, when KDE4 is released, ill be back
[10:25] <Lord_Flasheart> i must back to work
[10:26] <Necros> Even on seperate partitions?
[10:26] <sNaKe> no not on seperate partitions sheesh
[10:26] <Necros> well then... XD
[10:26] <graft> i can't deal with gnome, man
[10:26] <graft> fonts look so much better in kde
[10:26] <BluesKaj> g-nome needs a new project :>)
[10:27] <Necros> I'd rather XFCE then gnome
[10:27] <metatecque> I can deal with knome for about as long as it takes to run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:28] <sNaKe> well compiz and xgl worked with gnome, and ive just become used to it :-)
[10:28] <metatecque> did I say knome?
[10:28] <Necros> yes
[10:28] <Red-Sox> How do I install a .deb package I've downloaded?
[10:28] <Necros> yes you did
[10:28] <sNaKe> (I ran KDE for about 8 months, ive been on gnome for about 4)
[10:28] <graft> metatecque: isn't this what a tty console is for?
[10:28] <sNaKe> Red-Sox, double click it
[10:28] <Red-Sox> ...
[10:28] <BluesKaj> kde upgrade
[10:29] <metatecque> well I didn't say I logged into gnome
[10:29] <Necros> or from konsole, dpkg -i <file name>.deb
[10:29] <metatecque> ctrl-alt-F1
[10:29] <Red-Sox> sNaKe: that just opens the archive
[10:29] <graft> sNaKe: beryl works fine with AIGLX and kde for me... thats what i'm using
[10:29] <sNaKe> Doesnt KDE have a package installer??
[10:29] <mando> hello
[10:29] <mando> after i upgraded to edgy
[10:29] <mando> when i try to run adept it doesnt run
[10:29] <mando> i get an error
[10:29] <sNaKe> graft, yes, notice Beryl, and AIGLX. Both of those work fine :-) I just got used to gnome during my Compiz/XGL days (I too am now on beryl and aiglx)
[10:30] <mando> adept could not run specifiec command
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> sNaKe: adept
[10:30] <graft> !enter | mando
[10:30] <ubotu> mando: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> adept_manager
[10:30] <Necros> monkey
[10:30] <mando> ok sorry for the enter
[10:30] <mando> thank you
[10:30] <sNaKe> Admiral_Chicago, I ment for installing debs, I know at least in gnome I just double click and it has a dpkg -i front for it
[10:30] <sNaKe> installing downloaded debs**
[10:30] <Necros> will Beryl run on KDE?
[10:30] <ORiON-> [23:30]  <ubotu> mando: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Necros: ye
[10:31] <ORiON-> WTF!? smart bot
[10:31] <graft> yeah, beryl runs on KDE
[10:31] <sNaKe> Necros, yes
[10:31] <Necros> by the way, whats the IRC command for red-typing?
[10:31] <Red-Sox> thanks Necros
[10:31] <graft> it's weaker than kwin in a bunch of ways, but the eye candy, of course, is what counts
[10:31] <Necros> you're welcom
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Necros: we don't allow colored lines in this channel :\
[10:31] <ORiON-> try CTRL+K
[10:31] <Necros> But when you directly address me, the text turns red...
[10:32] <graft> mando what's your error?
[10:32] <mando> i got it sorted
[10:32] <mando> thank you
[10:32] <graft> Necros: that's just your irc client doing that for you
[10:32] <Necros> ahhh
[10:32] <Necros> gotcha
[10:32] <graft> Necros: usually you can specify keywords to be highlighte as well
[10:32] <Necros> I'm still new to Konversation
[10:33] <Necros> I was using Gaim, but my friends all made fun of me for it
[10:33] <graft> Necros: see if you have a /hilight command
[10:33] <graft> bah, gaim is great
[10:33] <BluesKaj> gaim is for IMers
[10:33] <metatecque> Q? Is there a package for K that does what brightside does in G?
[10:33] <graft> true... i've never gotten used to gui IRC clients
[10:33] <graft> just seems wrong... like wordls colliding
[10:34] <graft> IRC must be in a console, damnit
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Necros: you have true friends
[10:34] <Necros> ROFL
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Necros: plus, red type is konversation highlighting your name
[10:34] <BluesKaj> graft, irssi
[10:34] <graft> BluesKaj: yah, that's me
[10:35] <BluesKaj> commandline junkie eh ?
[10:35] <graft> hmm, i've never seen anything like brightside for KDE
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !brightsie
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brightsie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> oh well
[10:35] <graft> though i dunno why it wouldn't work on kde anyway...?
[10:36] <graft> i guess edge flipping wouldn't
[10:36] <Red-Sox> grr
[10:36] <Red-Sox> ksmoothdock SUCKS
[10:36] <Red-Sox> I guess that there aren't any good dock apps?
[10:36] <Necros> hehe
[10:36] <graft> almost by definition
[10:36] <graft> i was using OSXDocker for a while
[10:36] <Red-Sox> graft: and?
[10:36] <graft> um... what the heck was it called
[10:37] <Necros> Whats wrong with the panel, when you tell it to expand as contents require?
[10:37] <Red-Sox> Meh...
[10:37] <Red-Sox> I want zooming launchers on the bottom and everything else on the top
[10:37] <graft> http://xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php
[10:37] <Party> hello. i have a simple bash script to adjust alsamixer settings in the .kde/Autostart folder. but it doesn't look like it's working. (Yes it is executable). Any ideas?
[10:37] <Red-Sox> I know you can kinda get zooming launchers on panels but THEY suck
[10:37] <Red-Sox> graft: I tried that too :\
[10:38] <tdd1984> okay guuys im in a big problem, I got a kubuntu, and I did something i dont know what I did, but all s I can get is the shell prompt during boot up, I tried to do a recovery?
[10:38] <Red-Sox> graft: couldn't even get that one to run
[10:38] <tdd1984> by the way this is php-freak
[10:38] <Necros> tdd1984:have you checked your X configuration?
[10:38] <graft> Red-Sox: hmm... well it's pretty easy to hack around in the source and bug-fix that one if you're up for it
[10:38] <tdd1984> necros: x Config? Wheres it located at
[10:38] <cloakable> tdd1984: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <Red-Sox> aight graft, if you can walk me through it
[10:39] <Necros> \etc/X11
[10:39] <graft> Red-Sox: nah... i meant more as a personal project :P
[10:39] <Red-Sox> Hrmph
[10:39] <Red-Sox> :P
[10:39] <tdd1984> cloakable: do you think i should just reinstall it which I got all my same files
[10:39] <Red-Sox> ight
[10:39] <BluesKaj> tdd1984, startx
[10:39] <graft> that's what i did in the past to get that thing working
[10:39] <Necros> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <Necros> there, thats better
[10:39] <graft> but then i gave up and just stuck with a non-zooming panel launcher
[10:39] <tdd1984> blueskaj: hw do I start x?
[10:39] <Red-Sox> graft: how was it?
[10:39] <Necros> run startx
[10:39] <Red-Sox> tdd1984: startx...
[10:39] <graft> it's okay... i just decided i hate zooming...
[10:40] <tdd1984> okay im running start x now
[10:40] <BluesKaj> tdd1984, type startx at the prompt
[10:40] <tdd1984> i did
[10:40] <Necros> what did it tell you?
[10:40] <tdd1984> building operating ysstem linux
[10:40] <graft> it has some neat features... recognizes launched applications, etc., adds them to the dock
[10:40] <tdd1984> BluesKaj: hold on let me red it
[10:40] <tdd1984> read it
[10:41] <tdd1984> see right before reboot i edit the xorg.conf
[10:41] <tdd1984> since then it wasn't rebooting
[10:42] <tdd1984> says problem parsing the config file
[10:42] <Necros> try this 'sudo cp xorg.conf~ xorg.conf'
[10:42] <eMaX_> re
[10:42] <tdd1984> line 101
[10:42] <Necros> from //etc/X11/
[10:42] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[10:42] <Necros> you just have a bad config file, thats all
[10:43] <[Relic] > repository firefox or one from the website?
[10:43] <tdd1984> okay it gave me a >
[10:43] <Necros> a what?
[10:43] <graft> repository firefox
[10:43] <tdd1984> >
[10:43] <tdd1984> thats it
[10:43] <Necros> hmm
[10:43] <[Relic] > firefox or mozilla fire fox?
[10:43] <graft> unless you're running feisty
[10:43] <Necros> do you have an nvidia card installed?
[10:43] <tdd1984> no
[10:44] <graft> um, one is a dummy for the other, anyway...
[10:44] <Necros> hmm
[10:44] <tdd1984> it said there was an error on line 101 in the xorg.conf file
[10:44] <tdd1984> i edit the xorg.conf right before i rebooted it
[10:44] <Necros> nano xorg.conf
[10:44] <Necros> check line 101
[10:44] <tdd1984> how do i open the file
[10:44] <tdd1984> with out being in linux
[10:44] <Necros> nano
[10:44] <tdd1984> so i can fix it
[10:44] <[Relic] > 104k must be the dummy then  :)
[10:44] <Necros> nano xorg.conf
[10:44] <tdd1984> nice
[10:44] <tdd1984> nano hehe :)
[10:44] <tdd1984> linux rock!
[10:44] <graft> tdd1984: your system can boot to a console, right?
[10:44] <Necros> I use nano for all things
[10:45] <tdd1984> only getting the shell right now
[10:45] <tdd1984> hold on guys
[10:45] <Necros> even when i have the gui
[10:45] <graft> tdd1984: yeah, that's "linux"
[10:45] <tdd1984> let me remove line 101 which was the line i added when it screwed up
[10:45] <Necros> you have to edit it with sudo if you want to save your changes
[10:45] <tdd1984> hw can i go straight to line 101
[10:45] <tdd1984> okay so sudo nano xorg.conf
[10:45] <eMaX_> anybody here got a fingerprint reader (bioapi) to work on ubuntu? It workfs for me for things like "su -", but it doesn't for things like screensaver etc.
[10:46] <eMaX_> particularly difficult to test as kdesu seems to cache the successful logins for some timeee
[10:46] <graft> tdd1984: ctrl-w,ctrl-t, 101
[10:47] <tdd1984> dangit trying to exit out of this
[10:47] <Necros> ctrl-x
[10:47] <graft> eMaX_: you can avoid that problem in one of two ways:
[10:48] <graft> eMaX_: either configure sudo to not keep tickets around for any length of time, or you can kill your timestamp using um... sudo -k i think
[10:48] <graft> damnit... does anyone have any idea how i can change my konsole encoding from whatever the heck it is to utf8 permanently?
[10:48] <tdd1984> okay i removed line 101
[10:48] <tdd1984> which was the line i put in
[10:48] <tdd1984> now let me try to reboot
[10:49] <angasule> graft: did you try Settings->Encoding (and then save as default)?
[10:49] <dettoaltrimenti> when you do 'sudo apt-get update' does that actually update apt-get, or does it update everything on your system?
[10:49] <graft> angasule: yeah, doesn't do shit...
[10:49] <Necros> you dont have to reboot...
[10:49] <Necros> just startx
[10:49] <bernielive> HI ALL
[10:49] <tdd1984> k
[10:49] <tdd1984> me new linx n00b
[10:49] <tdd1984> hold on
[10:49] <tdd1984> its doing something hold on
[10:50] <Necros> yay for doing something!
[10:50] <tdd1984> lol
[10:50] <eMaX_> graft any idea how to kill that for kdesu?
[10:50] <BluesKaj> prolly setting up
[10:50] <graft> eMaX_: kdesu uses same tickets as sudo... same deal, sudo -k
[10:50] <dettoaltrimenti> emax: kill what?
[10:50] <eMaX_> strange doesnt work
[10:51] <eMaX_> it still does no longer ask for a password. I try as normal user kdesu -c adept_manager -u root -n
[10:51] <Red-Sox> what browser do y'all use
[10:51] <graft> eMaX_: and then sudo -k says what?
[10:51] <cloakable> Konqueror
[10:52] <BluesKaj> FF
[10:52] <bernielive> same
[10:52] <MinceR> gn
[10:52] <Necros> Swiftfox/Firefox 3/Konq/Lynx
[10:52] <lupine_85> Konq
[10:52] <eMaX_> nothing
[10:52] <lupine_85> every time :)
[10:52] <Red-Sox> Wo the hell uses Lynx?
[10:52] <Red-Sox> WHY?
[10:52] <lupine_85> sometimes links2 - but only if the site doesn't support lynx
[10:52] <fdoving> !language
[10:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:53] <Red-Sox> fdoving: me?
[10:53] <Necros> when I'm playing an MMORPG, and I need to look something up, I use Lynx cause it wont slow things down
[10:53] <lupine_85> well, I'd use firefox but it keeps complaing about a missing display. Is there a fix for that?
[10:53] <Lam_> i need a program to check to see if a hard drive is potentially failing. suggestions?
[10:53] <graft> eMaX_: um, how does sudo itself behave after sudo -k?
[10:53] <fdoving> Red-Sox: you too, i notice a negative trend.
[10:53] <Red-Sox> fdoving: who was that directed to?
[10:53] <eMaX_> correctly as you say. sudo -k forces a password next time su is used
[10:54] <eMaX_> only for kdesu this is different
[10:54] <Necros> tdd1984: are you out there?
[10:54] <graft> is hell a bad word? that's a bit strong, isn't it?
[10:54] <fdoving> Red-Sox: those who feel guilty.
[10:54] <Red-Sox> lupine_85: MMORPGs for linux?
[10:54] <Necros> planeshift
[10:54] <Necros> Cedega-run
[10:54] <Red-Sox> Cedega's expensive
[10:54] <Necros> Runescape if i'm feeling like a n00b
[10:55] <graft> lupine_85: missing display?
[10:55] <Necros> Red-Sox: No comment
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Necros, tdd1984 is still listed
[10:55] <tdd1984> yes
[10:55] <Red-Sox> LOL @ Necros] 
[10:55] <tdd1984> necros: its wrking
[10:55] <Red-Sox> oops
[10:55] <Necros> sweet
[10:55] <[Relic] > can you replace konquer with firefox?
[10:55] <tdd1984> necros: how do i get my wireless card working
[10:55] <lupine_85> yeah. For some reason, my server in london isn't running X
[10:55] <BluesKaj> tdd1984, cool
[10:55] <tdd1984> yup :)
[10:55] <lupine_85> weird, I know
[10:55] <tdd1984> i messed the config file up, just didn't know how to get back to it
[10:55] <Necros> tdd1984: what kind of card is it, and what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[10:55] <[Relic] > and if so how?  :)
[10:56] <graft> lupine_85: um, how would you run FF without X?
[10:56] <tdd1984> newest kubuntu
[10:56] <Necros> I mess my config up all the time, had to restore this time
[10:56] <tdd1984> let me message you guys back when i get home
[10:56] <Necros> 6.10 or 7.04?
[10:56] <lupine_85> graft: exactly
[10:56] <eMaX_> ok I just gonna kill X
[10:56] <eMaX_> brb
[10:56] <Necros> edgy or feisty?
[10:56] <lupine_85> [21:52]  <Red-Sox> WHY? [do you use lynx] 
[10:57] <Necros> tdd1984: what kind of card is it?
[10:57] <eMaX> re
[10:58] <graft> eMaX: try kdesu -s
[10:58] <graft> err damnit
[10:59] <The_Machine> what's a good tool to mount iso images in ubuntu (like you would use daemon tools for in Win?)
[10:59] <Necros> mount
[11:00] <The_Machine> :P
[11:00] <Necros> mount -o -loop -t iso9660 <file name>.iso
[11:00] <The_Machine> i can't remember that iso9660 every time
[11:00] <The_Machine> actually
[11:00] <Necros> mount -o -loop -t iso9660 <file name>.iso /mnt
[11:00] <The_Machine> the whole command doesn't really make sense to me
[11:00] <The_Machine> isn't there something that will make it "nice"?
[11:00] <The_Machine> not to say i refuse to learh
[11:00] <The_Machine> learn, even
[11:00] <Necros> what do you mean by nice?
[11:00] <Vladdy> lol
[11:01] <Vladdy> try mount -o loop <file> <mountpoint>
[11:01] <graft> um, yeah, no dash before loop
[11:01] <Necros> ahh
[11:01] <Necros> my bad
[11:01] <The_Machine> nice like, i click on the .iso and i say "mount this shit"
[11:01] <lupine_85> as in, GUI?
[11:01] <The_Machine> :)
[11:01] <Necros> eww
[11:01] <weswh-> i have an HFS (macosx) partition that i want to get my data off of. when i mount it (even with uid=1000, read only) i can access the mount, but most of the folders have 'lock' icons on them. permission denied. if i access it with kdesu konqueror, i can't copy files to my drive. it says they do not exist. when i tried cp from a clean root shell, it says 'ommiting folder', and quits.
[11:01] <trappist> The_Machine: language please
[11:02] <The_Machine> oh, sorry
[11:02] <lupine_85> make a shellscript and associate the MIME type with it?
[11:02] <lupine_85> it's a trivial thing
[11:02] <The_Machine> lupine_85: you're going over my head.
[11:02] <lupine_85> ...
[11:02] <The_Machine> i appreciate that you suggest such a thing..
[11:02] <matthew> I'm having trouble getting kaffeine to load. I just installed edgy, but I am not able to play anything with kaffiene. When I click on a media file or the icon, I get a little "loading" placeholder in the kicker panel, but then it disappears after 20 seconds or so. I'm using KDE 3.5.5 and Qt 3.3.6. Anyone know what's going on?
[11:02] <The_Machine> but i've never written a shell script before.
[11:02] <lupine_85> create a file in /usr/bin called "mount_iso"
[11:02] <weswh-> anyone have any ideas? i don't know if it is inheriting permissions from the macos system or what. it's an external firewire harddrive. when i was in there with kdesu i could play mp3s off of it and such. how can i play a file, but not copy the file? :/
[11:02] <graft> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577
[11:02] <graft> for you, The_Machine
[11:03] <The_Machine> Thanks, graft.
[11:03] <Necros> KIso perhaps?
[11:03] <Necros> bye everyone
[11:04] <lupine_85> make it read "#!/bin/bash \ kdesu mount -o loop $1 -t iso9660 /mnt/iso \ exit 0" (\ is new lines; modify /mnt/iso if needed). Make it executable, then associate .iso file types with that script (using konqueror).
[11:04] <The_Machine> lupine :)
[11:04] <The_Machine> haha
[11:04] <lupine_85> seriously. that's it
[11:04] <eMaX> in kubuntu, which is the default (graphical) runlevel?
[11:04] <lupine_85> default is 2, but all the runlevels are identical
[11:04] <lupine_85> well, 2-5
[11:05] <The_Machine> i believe you, but you're approaching the problem from a perspective that isn't considering your audience
[11:05] <eMaX> ????
[11:05] <The_Machine> again, not that i don't appreciate your answer
[11:05] <lupine_85> remove kdm from one if you don't want it to be graphical
[11:05] <lupine_85> do you really want a deb package for something so trivial?
[11:05] <graft> hey eMaX - kdesu can be whacked via kdesu -s
[11:05] <The_Machine> when you started using linux, would you have understood what you just said?
[11:05] <lupine_85> yes
[11:05] <The_Machine> how?!
[11:05] <The_Machine> that's amazing.
[11:06] <lupine_85> I knew how to "create a file"
[11:06] <eMaX> tried didnt work
[11:06] <graft> probably because of years of unix use
[11:06] <graft> what! damnit... okay, i got nothing, then
[11:06] <lupine_85> my first *nix experience was red hat 6...
[11:06] <The_Machine> how did you know how to create a file?
[11:06] <lupine_85> I hated it :D
[11:06] <The_Machine> heh.
[11:06] <The_Machine> i'm not doubting that you knew
[11:06] <lupine_85> because I knew that "gedit" was an editor. And I knew how to go to file->save
[11:06] <The_Machine> i'm just surprised that you were able to intuitively grasp such a thing.
[11:06] <The_Machine> Okay
[11:06] <The_Machine> i know gedit is an editor too
[11:06] <lupine_85> the hard bit would be working out you needed to be root to save it
[11:07] <lupine_85> although correctly it should go in ~/bin - but ubuntu doesn't have that, for some unknown reason
[11:07] <dettoaltrimenti> what's the best messenger program for kubuntu?
[11:07] <graft> mkdir ~/bin?
[11:07] <lupine_85> kopete :)
[11:07] <BluesKaj> !commands
[11:07] <graft> gaim
[11:07] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:08] <lupine_85> graft: then the fun of adding it to $PATH... I was going for "basic" here
[11:08] <verzonnen> lupine_85: why not paste the script and instructions on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:08] <graft> lupine_85: eh... still pretty basic, but ok
[11:08] <lupine_85> verzonnen: why pastebin 1 line?
[11:08] <verzonnen> the chmod and all
[11:08] <matthew> Kaffeine will not open for any kind of media format. It loads, then closes. What can I do?
[11:08] <graft> use kmplayer
[11:08] <graft> kaffeine stinks
[11:09] <RadiantFire> check your process list
[11:09] <lupine_85> kaffeine++
[11:09] <RadiantFire> no, kaffeine is amazing...
[11:09] <oslo> does someone success to use gmailfs ??
[11:09] <verzonnen> lupine_85: gives ppl time to chew it over;
[11:09] <matthew> I like kaffeine...
[11:09] <RadiantFire> sometimes a kaffine process is left running in zombie mode or something
[11:09] <graft> i've never had good luck with it...
[11:09] <matthew> kmplayer, hmm?
[11:09] <RadiantFire> do killall kaffeine in the terminal then try
[11:09] <fariborz> hi all
[11:09] <graft> kmplayer just works... why not use it?
[11:09] <RadiantFire> matthew: try killall kaffeine in the a terminal
[11:09] <lupine_85> verzonnen: true, but it looks like The_Machine has another solution anyway
[11:09] <verzonnen> lupine_85: just a sugestion
[11:09] <matthew> thanks...doing it now
[11:09] <RadiantFire> matthew: I had that problem, it seems to be a slight glitch
[11:09] <fariborz> is any one germanspeaking here?
[11:09] <dettoaltrimenti> matthew: you probably need to install some codecs: go to adept and see what packages are available
[11:10] <fariborz> i need help
[11:10] <graft> !de
[11:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:10] <matthew> RadiantFire, thanks so much, it's working now!
[11:10] <matthew> I love you!
[11:10] <RadiantFire> :-)
[11:10] <matthew> RadiantFire, in a platonic sense, of course...lol
[11:10] <fariborz> who can give me some advises?
[11:10] <RadiantFire> kmplayer is kind of barebones compared to kaffeine, its nice, but I wuold feel sad if you were forced ot use it
[11:11] <graft> !ask | fariborz
[11:11] <ubotu> fariborz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:11] <lupine_85> I use kaffeine solely for the playlists
[11:11] <fariborz> oh tnks
[11:11] <fariborz> oki
[11:11] <RadiantFire> fariborz: gehen se ins di #kubuntu-de kanael
[11:11] <RadiantFire> wow, I fail at typing in german...
[11:11] <fariborz> wo ist das?
[11:12] <RadiantFire> sie konnen /join #kubuntu-de machen und dan sind sie in die kanael
[11:12] <graft> man, i am so dissatisfied with spamassassin
[11:12] <fariborz> how can i  use windwos xp boot loader instead of the shit grub
[11:12] <graft> !spam
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <graft> why would oyu want to use the XP boot loader? it won't let you dual boot linux
[11:13] <lupine_85> there's a haxored version of it that can load linux
[11:13] <lupine_85> but yeah, it's worse even than lilo
[11:13] <fariborz> i had that once. i  had windows xp and knoppx in my boot.ini
[11:13] <graft> but, if memory serves, you can get a utility called fixmbr or mbrfix for windoze that will restore your windows boot loader
[11:13] <graft> sometimes accessible on the windows xp install disc
[11:14] <fariborz> however does anyone know how ?
[11:14] <graft> anyone got anything better than spamassassin going on?
[11:14] <RadiantFire> bogofilter?
[11:14] <graft> fariborz: google?
[11:14] <fariborz> lol
[11:15] <fariborz> didnt find any help there
[11:15] <graft> bogofilter... hm
[11:15] <RadiantFire> its built in to kmail
[11:15] <dettoaltrimenti> I just installed edgy, and there are far fewer programs than with dapper. Is VLC not available for 6.10?
[11:15] <fariborz> ok  here is the net question
[11:15] <RadiantFire> although I would be careful using it on an imap server
[11:15] <dettoaltrimenti> I mean, programs listed in apt-get
[11:15] <graft> not to worry, i'm still using nmh
[11:15] <fariborz> how can i update my kubunto version 6.06  to 6.1??
[11:15] <fdoving> !upgrade | fariborz
[11:15] <ubotu> fariborz: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:16] <lupine_85> dettoaltrimenti: are all your repositories enabled?
[11:16] <lupine_85> !info vlc edgy
[11:16] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[11:16] <lupine_85> like universe, for instance...
[11:16] <lupine_85> !repos
[11:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:17] <smaggard> where is ubuntus mysql databases located?
[11:17] <smaggard> i looked in var but maybe i just didnt see them
[11:18] <dettoaltrimenti> lupine: how do I check? I'm not sure, just installed about 15 minutes ago
[11:19] <fdoving> smaggard: /var/lib/mysql/
[11:19] <Lam__> if your system has two hard drives: main (with kde installed), and secondary (for backups), and you hear a verbal click from the tower (potentially indicating a failing hard drive), and soon after kde starts to freeze on itself with a "malformatted error", which hard drive would you assume failed?
[11:20] <smaggard> ah thx
[11:20] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks lupine
[11:20] <graft> you know what, bayes filters suck.
[11:21] <graft> how many spams must i get that say "Investor alert blah-di-blah" before they figure it out?
[11:21] <fariborz> the  comand with gksu doesnt work
[11:22] <graft> Lam_: why don't you just disable the secondary one? or run a filesystem check on both?
[11:22] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a page describing the legal issues that explain why there is universe/multiverse?
[11:22] <Lam_> graft: how do i do the latter?
[11:22] <graft> fsck
[11:23] <Lam_> graft: ok thanks
[11:26] <oslo> does someone here has already success to use gmailfs ??
[11:27] <graft> oslo: why do you want gmailfs?
[11:29] <oslo> graft> to be able to import/export some files from/to gmail like if it was a partition
[11:29] <dettoaltrimenti> should I add the 'restricted' repository? is that where the mp3 related packages are?
[11:29] <graft> right, i understand what gmailfs is, but it's not a very good solution for anything, is it?
[11:30] <oslo> graft> it could be nice
[11:30] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[11:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:30] <cloakable> Konqueror freezes up while rendering webpages. How can I fix that?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> use FF :)
[11:33] <fignew> BluesKaj: I think he prefers to use better software than firefox...
[11:34] <php-freak_> hey guys how can i disable the touch pad mouse?
[11:34] <graft> php-freak_: a sharp rock
[11:34] <fignew> cloakable: run konqueror from the command prompt
[11:34] <brett_> A website wont allow me to register with them. It says this ip is already registered. Is there an easy way to hide your ip?
[11:35] <graft> php-freak_: or a really good dielectric, maybe...
[11:35] <fignew> and see if there's any output
[11:35] <sercik> disconnect and reconnect again if you have a dinamic IP
[11:35] <fignew> php-freak_: ignore these idiots
[11:35] <fignew> php-freak_: 1 sec and I'll tell you
[11:35] <brett_> and what if i dont?
[11:36] <fignew> php-freak_: install ksynaptics
[11:36] <graft> brett_: um, what sort of registration does it have? login/password?
[11:36] <fignew> !ksynaptics
[11:36] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 1008 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[11:37] <fignew> there's an option in that to disable/enable the touchpad
[11:37] <php-freak_> nice
[11:37] <brett_> graft: yeah. it is a game that i want to play called punch me... so i need to make my own account
[11:37] <php-freak_> how do i get it?
[11:38] <fignew> php-freak_: with the adept package manager :P
[11:38] <fignew> !adept
[11:38] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:39] <graft> um... brett_ they seem to be really dumb
[11:39] <brett_> graft: the webpage designers?
[11:39] <graft> yeah
[11:39] <mustafa> How can I make kubuntu write on NTFS file system?
[11:39] <graft> i can't imagine why that would possibly be a restriction
[11:39] <brett_> it seems really simple
[11:40] <fignew> brett_: use a proxy
[11:40] <fignew> or!
[11:40] <brett_> they do not want people to make multiple accounts
[11:40] <fignew> you could use the coral cache
[11:40] <brett_> you could kinda cheat if you did
[11:40] <brett_> fignew: i tried a few put they dont like me using posts
[11:40] <brett_> fignew: they are worried i am hacking into something
[11:41] <fignew> http://www.website.url.com.nyud.net:8080
[11:41] <fignew> try that
[11:41] <fignew> replace the URL ;)
[11:41] <oslo> does someone here has already success to use gmailfs ??
[11:41] <fignew> !ntfs
[11:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:41] <php-freak_> where can i find out what every one of these packages do?
[11:41] <fignew> !ntfs-3g
[11:41] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:41] <brett_> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.punchme.net.nyud.net:8080.
[11:42] <php-freak_> also any one know anything about my sound card? its a onboard card? its reading fine, but does not play
[11:42] <sithergean> Kubuntu rocks, whoever made it deserves 100 freaking gold medals
[11:42] <fignew> you get that mustafa?
[11:42] <brett_> hmm.
[11:42] <fignew> thousands of people made it sithergean ;)
[11:42] <mustafa> yes i knew that
[11:42] <mustafa> but it didnt work
[11:42] <php-freak_> hey i install the package, now how i get to the configuration?
[11:42] <brett_> can someone maybe go to the site and sign up for me... it just takes a second
[11:42] <fignew> is it an internal drive?
[11:43] <eilker> !printer
[11:43] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:43] <mustafa> yes its
[11:43] <sithergean> then thousands of people deserve thousands of gold medals :p
[11:43] <brett_> fignew: the simplest solution is for someone to sign up for me. Do you mind it is just three fields?
[11:44] <mustafa> 1st... thanks for helping me
[11:44] <fignew> but your IP still wont work...
[11:44] <brett_> it will
[11:44] <brett_> i am sure of it
[11:44] <brett_> i just need someone to create the account
[11:44] <fignew> mustafa: have you edited /etc/fstab ?
[11:45] <mustafa> whats that?
[11:45] <fignew> 1 sec brett_
[11:45] <php-freak_> fignew: i install it, but how do i use it?
[11:45] <brett_> fignew: sure
[11:45] <fignew> 1 sec php-freak_
[11:46] <php-freak_> fignew; okay thanks
[11:46] <fignew> mustafa: sudo kate /etc/fstab
[11:46] <fignew> then look for the mount point
[11:47] <fignew> php-freak_: <alt> f2
[11:47] <fignew> then type in kcontrol
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> is there a port you need to leave open to make sure you get the update notification?
[11:48] <mustafa> I write this in a usal terminal?
[11:48] <fignew> TheGateKeeper: no
[11:48] <fignew> mustafa: yes
[11:48] <php-freak_> i hit alt f2
[11:48] <php-freak_> but nothing happen
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> thanx fignew
[11:48] <php-freak_> i got it through running the command
[11:49] <mustafa> error bad device
[11:49] <fignew> php-freak_: kcontrol?
[11:49] <fignew> mustafa: bad device what?
[11:49] <mustafa> invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[11:49] <php-freak_> yes
[11:49] <php-freak_> it says kontrol center
[11:50] <fignew> mustafa: did you follow the guide at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 ... that has what I was about to do...
[11:50] <fignew> ok php-freak_, search for synaptics
[11:50] <mustafa> ok
[11:50] <mustafa> thanks
[11:51] <php-freak_> nice
[11:51] <fignew> brett_: msg me your email
[11:51] <php-freak_> fignew: kubuntu is way differnet then ubuntu, maybe I can get my sound card working now im usuing kubuntu
[11:51] <brett_> fignew: how do i message?
[11:51] <Moniix> hello=) how do i get in to efnet?
[11:51] <brett_> err wait
[11:51] <fignew> /msg fignew email@address
[11:51] <brett_> fignew: i figured it out
[11:51] <fignew> ok
[11:51] <brett_> fignew: set up NoSpin as the userid pls
[11:52] <brett_> fignew: you didnt get the email huh
[11:52] <brett_> fignew: they blocked the message because i am unregistered
[11:52] <fignew> php-freak_: it's the same, though I'm sure we can get it to work
[11:52] <fignew> brett_: can you paste it in here?
[11:52] <php-freak_> fignew: thats what every one has said? what do you need to know if you think we can get it working?
[11:53] <brett_> fignew: kalluminati2001@yahoo.com
[11:53] <mustafa> bash: gksu: command not found
[11:54] <mustafa> whats that?
[11:54] <fignew> php-freak_: what type of soundcard?
[11:54] <fignew> what brand & model?
[11:54] <dettoaltrimenti> what is the kde equivalent of gedit?
[11:54] <fignew> mustafa: use kdesu instead
[11:54] <fignew> kate is the equiv. of gedit
[11:54] <mustafa> ok
[11:54] <fignew> KDE Advanced Text Editor
[11:54] <php-freak_> fignew: hold on, how do i find out again? I know theresa  control panel, but wheres it located at on kubuntu?
[11:55] <fignew> K menu -> system -> Kinfocenter
[11:56] <mustafa> file not found
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> kate has built in terminal so it's better hehe
[11:56] <fignew> in the menu?
[11:56] <fignew> mustafa ^^
[11:57] <verzonnen> TheGateKeeper vim lets you execute commands from within s it's even better
[11:57] <matthew> verzonnen, but it is kind of hard to get the hang of...no mouse...
[11:57] <fignew> brett_: p/w should be in Email
[11:57] <verzonnen> matthew: It does, try it
[11:57] <brett_> fignew: thank you
[11:57] <verzonnen> matthew: vim
[11:58] <verzonnen> gvim
[11:58] <verzonnen> third time lucky
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> verzonnen, I wouldn't know just can't get on with vim
[11:58] <matthew> verzonnen, wait, vim supports mouse?
[11:58] <fignew> I always use nano
[11:58] <verzonnen> matthew: gvim does
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> me too
[11:58] <fignew> nano can be configured to support mouse :)
[11:58] <matthew> I like kate or kwrite myself...
[11:58] <matthew> verzonnen, oh, ok.
[11:59] <php-freak_> fignew: Intel 82801db-ICH4 (duplex)
[11:59] <php-freak_> its saying my synth devices not enabled in config
[11:59] <fignew> that doesn't matter... unless you want MIDI
[11:59] <php-freak_> not really
[11:59] <php-freak_> but thats the card i got and its not working
[12:00] <php-freak_> intel 82801db-ich4 with ad1981b
[12:00] <verzonnen> nice thing with gvim is that you learn all the keyboard shortcuts and vim will become very powerfull in a short time
[12:00] <fignew> in commandprompt does alsamixer show anything?
[12:00] <php-freak_> hold on
[12:00] <php-freak_> yes, and everything is configured propely
[12:01] <fignew> ok, fiddle with each of the volumes
[12:01] <fignew> down then up
[12:01] <php-freak_> okay
[12:01] <fignew> all of them
[12:01] <php-freak_> okay
[12:01] <php-freak_> did it
[12:02] <php-freak_> fignew: you there
[12:02] <fignew> yea
[12:02] <php-freak_> Got a solution for this?
[12:03] <fignew> cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[12:03] <fignew> ctrl + c to stop
[12:03] <php-freak_> fignew is that direct at me
[12:03] <fignew> yes
[12:03] <php-freak_> says "device or resource busy"
[12:04] <fignew> whee
[12:04] <php-freak_> lol what
[12:04] <fignew> type killall artsd
[12:04] <fignew> then try again
[12:04] <php-freak_> now says no such file or directory
[12:04] <alessandro_> I've installed kubuntu 6.10 but the sound system doesn't work.... With 6.06 all work fine! Anybody know why?
[12:05] <php-freak_> lol
[12:05] <php-freak_> fignew: said not directory, or file
[12:05] <fignew> I'll look into it in a minute alessandro_
[12:06] <php-freak_> fignew: you there man
[12:06] <fignew> multitasking
[12:06] <fignew> on the phone
[12:06] <verzonnen> php-freak_: ls -l /dev/null /dev/dsp
[12:06] <php-freak_> k
[12:06] <fignew> very awkard
[12:06] <fignew> no
[12:06] <fignew> don't do that
[12:07] <php-freak_> k
[12:07] <php-freak_> whats that do
[12:07] <alessandro_> fignew: I've a apple powerbook g4 but I read that the same problem have been detective by many people...
[12:07] <verzonnen> lists the files
[12:07] <fignew> :P
[12:07] <fignew> I thought it was ln
[12:07] <php-freak_> fignew: k, what should i do nw
[12:07] <fignew> ls won't do anything
[12:07] <verzonnen> lol
[12:07] <mewshi> can someone help me with samba?
[12:07] <fignew> 1 sec
[12:08] <verzonnen> mewshi: sama.org has a lot of examples
[12:08] <fignew> just use the KDE samba configuration tools
[12:08] <dettoaltrimenti> when you start a new session that is a terminal (like ctrl alt f6) how do you get it to run the gui- windows system? I mean, what program do you run
[12:08] <mewshi> but i just want to get it done
[12:08] <dettoaltrimenti> I use edgy
[12:09] <mewshi> not learn every damned thing about it
[12:09] <fignew> php-freak_: working on a method to find out what's making the resource busy
[12:09] <verzonnen> mewshi: what do you want to do ?
[12:09] <fignew> mewshi: just use the KDE samba configuration tools
[12:09] <verzonnen> mewshi: share files?
[12:09] <php-freak_> fignew: okay cool, hopefully we get this working cause its been stressin me out :)
[12:09] <mewshi> ???
[12:09] <mewshi> there are kde samba config tools?
[12:09] <verzonnen> mewshi: there are
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> mewshi, install samba then go to system settings --> shares and set your shares up
[12:10] <mewshi> i just want to make it accessible from any comp on the network
[12:10] <fignew> php-freak_: are you sure you did killall artsd
[12:10] <fignew> perhaps sudo killall artsd
[12:10] <TheGateKeeper> mewshi, if all you want to do is look at a windows computer from linux you can do that with konqueor, just navigate to it
[12:10] <fignew> the error you gave didn't match what it should have been
[12:11] <php-freak_> yes postive
[12:11] <php-freak_> wait
[12:11] <php-freak_> it said no process killed this time
[12:11] <fignew> ok
[12:11] <php-freak_> probaly cause it was already killed
[12:11] <php-freak_> problay*
[12:11] <fignew> try cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[12:11] <fignew> again
[12:12] <php-freak_> okay hold on its doing something
[12:12] <fignew> you should hear static
[12:12] <fignew> if you turn up the volume on the speakers
[12:12] <php-freak_> when?
[12:12] <fignew> the whole time
[12:12] <fignew> until you press ctrl + c
[12:13] <php-freak_> i don't hear static
[12:13] <fignew> but it's just sitting there?
[12:13] <php-freak_> yes
[12:13] <php-freak_> i toggled with all the sound settings too
[12:13] <fignew> is it surround sound?
[12:14] <php-freak_> its a laptop, sometimes it sound like a surround sound