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jribdo that nvidia config command12:03
PuRusudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?12:04
jribyep12:04
PuRu_sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:05
PuRu_oops wrong paste12:05
PuRu_ward@ward-laptop:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:05
PuRu_Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed12:05
PuRu_the nvidia driver for your running kernel.12:05
jribsudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia12:06
PuRu_ward@ward-laptop:~$ sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia12:06
PuRu_ERROR: Module nvidia does not exist in /proc/modules12:06
jribok12:06
jribsudo modprobe nvidia12:06
PuRu_ward@ward-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia12:07
PuRu_Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:07
PuRu_jrib:12:07
jribok now does   sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  ?12:07
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PuRu_Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed12:08
PuRu_the nvidia driver for your running kernel.12:08
PuRu_lol12:08
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PuRutold u my system is pissing me off12:08
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PuRureboot is not gonna change anything lol12:09
jribhumor me please12:09
PuRuis rebooting12:09
jribI'm pretty sure the problem was that package with a different version12:10
jribI just don't know enough about modules to load that up the right way...12:10
PuRurebooted12:11
PuRuanyone else here who knows this?12:11
jribok  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:11
PuRujust a sec12:11
PuRulet me open xchat12:11
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PuRu_back12:12
PuRu_what i still dont understand is how can i install a wrong version if i follow the tutorial12:13
PuRu_?12:13
PuRu_Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed12:13
PuRu_the nvidia driver for your running kernel.12:13
jribit's not that you installed the wrong version, it's taht the package didn't get upgraded for some reason12:13
jribapt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-common12:13
jribwhat version is installed?12:13
PuRu6.1012:13
PuRuedgy12:13
jribI mean that the commands returns for linux-restricted-modules-common12:14
PuRu_he cant find the packet "linux-respricted-modules-commo"12:14
jribput an 'n' at the end12:14
PuRu_literally commo12:14
PuRu_linux-restricted-modules-common:12:15
PuRu_  Genstalleerd: 2.6.17.6-112:15
PuRu_  Kandidaat: 2.6.17.6-112:15
PuRu_  Versietabel:12:15
PuRu_ *** 2.6.17.6-1 012:15
PuRu_        500 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages12:15
PuRu_        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status12:15
PuRu_     2.6.17.5-11 012:15
PuRu_        500 http://be.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages12:15
PuRusorry for the long paste, wanted to spare some time12:15
PuRupastebins seem slow12:15
jribok, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:15
PuRugenstalleerd = installed12:15
PuRukandidaat = candidate12:15
PuRuversietabel = veriontable12:16
PuRuversiontable12:16
PuRu_is working12:16
jribPuRu_: are you using the generic kernel?12:17
PuRu386 i believe12:17
PuRui dunno the difference12:17
PuRushall i reboot to make sure i choose for 386?12:18
jribno, generic should be it12:18
jribSome people on the forums had this same problem and they needed to use generic12:18
PuRui'll reboot and make sure i choose generic then12:18
jribk12:18
jribI assumed I was using generic, but apparently I'm not... strange12:20
PuRurebooted :-)12:21
jribuname -a   says generic now?12:22
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PuRu_back12:23
PuRu_yes it says generic12:24
PuRusorry my dad came in12:24
PuRuspliff is ready12:24
jribok hopefully that command works now12:24
PuRutime for a ganjabreak12:24
PuRuwich command?12:25
jribsudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:25
PuRu_nope doesnt work lol12:26
PuRubrb12:26
jrib:/12:26
PuRureinstall?12:26
PuRuif so i set it up to reinstall while i'm smoking12:26
jribapt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)12:26
PuRuor shall i uninstall the nvidia-glx?12:27
PuRusince its the wrong version :s12:27
PuRulol anyway brb12:27
PuRucant wait any longer12:27
jribheh ok12:27
jribhmm maybe it's nvidia-xconfig12:29
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PuRu_jrib: back12:41
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PuRuyou mean as a command? "nvidia-xconfig"12:44
jribPuRu: yeah12:46
jribI just read that that's the new way to do it in edgy12:46
jrib(in the wiki)12:46
PuRui just did it12:47
jribbut make sure linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) is installed12:47
PuRusudo nvidia-xconfig12:47
PuRulol then i did ctrl-alt-backspace12:47
jribok did it work?12:47
PuRunow i get a black screen after getting a cursus on the left top12:47
jribalright hit ctrl-alt-f1 and   apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)12:48
PuRuso no it didnt work :p12:48
PuRuctrl-alt-f1 didnt work12:48
PuRuit was really a crash lol12:48
PuRui'm rebooting12:48
PuRui thought linux didnt crash fast :p12:48
jribmaye the kernel12:48
jribX is easy to crash12:49
PuRudamn lol12:49
PuRureboot does nothing12:49
PuRuctrl-alt-delete either12:49
PuRustart with a fresh install maybe?12:49
PuRui think ubuntu is quite fucked up by now :p12:49
jribheh go for it12:49
PuRuits done pretty fast anyway12:50
PuRuand then we're 100% sure i got a standard ubuntu edgy12:50
PuRui work at a helpdesk (for windoze pc's, general home users) and we often start from scratch becasue thats the only way to be sure when something keeps going wrong12:51
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PuRu*installing*12:54
PuRujrib: any idea why it didnt work the first time when i used the tutorial?12:56
jribmaybe because you didn't have the generic kernel loaded12:56
jribor maybe not12:56
jribno I'm not really sure why it didn't work12:56
PuRuthat can be12:56
PuRuthat i didnt load the generic kernel12:57
PuRuwell now i got time for a new spliff while it installs :-)12:57
PuRugot a car accident today, kinda have a bad day lol12:58
PuRuand then ubuntu that keeps refusing to work with the nvidia driver on my system12:58
jriboh, you alright?12:58
PuRuyeah, but the car = f*cked up12:59
PuRuradiator = dead, airco radiator = also dead12:59
PuRufront bumper = dead, front lights are dead, the hood = bend, ...12:59
jribwell they happen, good thing is you are alright12:59
PuRuyeah but still01:00
PuRui was gonna buy my own car01:01
PuRunow i'm not gonna have moeny to by my own01:01
PuRubecause some idiot is parked in the middle of the street01:01
PuRui start to hate idiotic people more and more each day01:01
PuRuevery day at work nothing but idiots that call me...01:01
PuRuon the road nothing but idiots that do stupid manouvres01:02
PuRuthis world is completely filled with idiots...01:02
PuRujrib: files are copying :-)01:06
jribcool01:08
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PuRumy guess is he's ready in 20minutes at most01:08
cntbo/01:08
unix_infidelwhat's this weeks session on?01:09
unix_infidelthe wik is sort of out of date.01:09
jribunix_infidel: atm I'm not sure we have an instructor01:10
PuRuomg lol01:10
PuRuthe installer seems crashed!01:10
unix_infidelwhat's the topic even :P01:10
unix_infidel?01:10
PuRujust when i thought i had seen it all01:10
jribunix_infidel: The Linux Kernel01:11
PuRulol its my drive01:12
PuRuthe contact is bad lately01:12
PuRujust glad its not my HD :-)01:12
PuRuvoila, working again01:15
jribunix_infidel: ok update, we do have an instructor01:16
PuRuare there actually lessons given here or is this just the channel for n00bs?01:17
cntb\o01:19
cntbso room is not ghost town any more?01:19
tonyyarussoVaries widely cntb .01:19
tonyyarussoPeople are becoming more aware, which is fantastic.01:20
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cntbwell01:24
jribPuRu: there are actual lessons, see the schedule in the topic01:24
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jribthis weekend!01:25
tonyyarussosweet01:25
jribtonyyarusso: what do you think sysadmin 101 entails?01:25
tonyyarussojrib: No idea...probably not too hard though if it's 10101:26
LjLjrib: chown/chmod? :P01:26
LjLperhaps adduser01:26
tonyyarussojrib: You volunteering?01:27
jribtonyyarusso: well I don't know what exactly I would teach.  But I wouldn't mind learning something new over the next couple of weeks so I could teach it01:28
LjLyou can teach that, trust me :P01:29
tonyyarussojrib: Awesome.  I'll bet we could get some folks to guide you along too.  There's a mailing list - could ask there.01:29
tonyyarussojrib: new_user_mentors@lists.novarata.net01:29
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jribI'm a member :)01:30
tonyyarussoI don't personally consider myself "advanced", but I do run a server for kicks, so depending what they mean I might be able to handle that.01:30
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jribI don't think i ever get any mail from that list though01:31
jribPuRu_: working?01:31
PuRu_is reinstalling01:31
PuRu_yeah the contact of the drive is a bit bad01:32
PuRu_sometimes it doesnt work01:32
PuRu_the cd drive01:32
PuRu_jrib: installed / rebooting :-)01:46
jribgl01:46
PuRu_ubuntu = installed lol01:46
PuRu_not the driver01:46
PuRu_booting generic mode01:47
PuRu_(this was the only mode right now is that normal?)01:47
jribthe generic kernel, yeah01:54
PuRu_allright, i'm booted :-)01:55
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PuRu_now what to do lol?02:07
PuRu_jirib:02:08
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jribPuRu_: ?02:28
tonyyarusso!nickspam | Limulf02:30
ubotuLimulf: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently02:30
tonyyarusso(Not a very busy channel, but still, pick one ;)  )02:31
LimulfSorry a lot, i'll keep that in mind :-)02:31
PuRu_jrib: what can i try to make ubuntu install teh correct version?02:32
PuRu_or anyone else02:32
jribPuRu_: the wiki instructions should work, just install nvidia-glx and the restricted modules for your kernel02:32
PuRu_last time i did that exactly02:33
PuRu_so i assume this time it wont work02:33
PuRu_but it did it wit synaptic02:33
PuRu_can that matther?02:33
jriblast time you had the other kernel remember?  I found some people on the forums with the same issue02:33
jribso first, install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel02:34
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PuRu_wich command please?02:35
PuRu_(or tutorial if its more then one command)02:36
jribhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:36
jribsudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic02:36
PuRu_lol i allready did that last time02:37
PuRu_but not the command02:37
PuRu_"In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button."02:38
PuRu_no add button in the screen that pops up02:39
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jribPuRu_: you should have a checkbox for restricted02:40
PuRu_its just to enable all the packets?02:41
PuRu_if so then i know what u mean and did it02:41
jribk02:41
PuRu_yeah its the one i mean02:41
PuRu_i did that last time too02:41
PuRu_sould i do the command too?02:41
jribthat should let you install linux-restricted-modules-generic02:41
PuRu_the install went fine02:42
PuRu_last time02:42
PuRu_no errors or anything02:42
jribk02:42
PuRu_it was after the install02:42
jribwhat card is this by the way?02:42
PuRu_420 go with 32mb02:43
PuRu_(toshiba sattelite pro m10)02:44
jribok should work, I have a similar card02:44
PuRu_its not legacy, i checked02:44
jrib440 go02:44
PuRu_what do u have?02:44
PuRu_i do this command right: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic02:44
PuRu_?02:44
jribyeah, assuming 'uname -a' says you are running generic02:44
PuRu_ok did "sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic"02:47
PuRu_and its finished02:47
PuRu_now just install nvidia-glx trough synaptic?02:47
PuRu_or something else first?02:47
jribjust nvidia-glx02:48
jribyou can use aptitude for that too if you want02:48
PuRu_too late lol02:49
jribsame thing02:49
PuRu_i just did sudo synaptic and then marked nvidia-glx02:50
jribk02:50
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PuRu_and then installed offcourse02:50
jribafter it finishes, sudo nvidia-xconfig02:50
PuRu_it takes longer then last time i think02:52
PuRu_sudo nvidia-xconfig = done02:52
PuRu_what's next?02:52
jribctrl-alt-backspace02:53
PuRu_*prays*02:53
PuRu_bang "failed to start x-server"02:53
jribseriously?02:54
PuRu_lol yeah02:54
PuRu_i'm looking at the ugly blue screen right now02:54
PuRu_wtf can be the problem lol02:55
PuRu_i don't get it02:55
jribcp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Desktop   , restore your backup xorg.conf and pastebin that02:55
PuRu_cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Desktop what does this command do?02:55
jribcopies the Xorg.0.log to your desktop02:56
PuRu_what are the commands to restore please?02:57
PuRu_allways do this kind of stuff with x lol02:57
jribls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*    should list some files, what are they?02:58
PuRu_ls is one of the few commands i do know :-)02:58
PuRu_conf and conf.backup02:59
PuRu_i copy the xorg.conf to desktop and then rename the other one i assume02:59
jribPuRu_: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.broken && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:59
jribyou could do that as well if you prefer03:00
PuRu_did it all03:02
PuRu_x = command to start x right?03:02
tonyyarussoPuRu_: startx03:02
jribsudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart03:02
tonyyarussoor that03:02
PuRu_oh yeah :-)03:02
tonyyarussoActually, I'd go with the gdm method unless you have a reason not to03:02
jribtonyyarusso: does he need to reboot after install nvidia-glx?03:02
tonyyarussojrib: Not a clue.  Try restarting X, if that doesn't work, then assume yes and see what happens ;003:03
tonyyarusso;) even03:03
PuRu_ok gui working03:03
jribok well at least nv still works for you this time03:03
PuRu_but with the old xorg.conf lol03:03
PuRu_lol03:03
jribok pastebin xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log on your desktop03:04
PuRu_how can this be possible?03:04
PuRu_ok03:04
PuRu_just a sec i'll install xchat03:04
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PuRuvoila03:08
PuRuhttp://paste.uni.cc/1214403:09
PuRuthats the log03:09
PuRuxorg.conf : http://paste.uni.cc/1214503:10
PuRu_thats the xorg.conf that made x crash03:11
PuRu_and the log was also copyed to desktop before i restored the backup03:11
PuRu_anything unusual?03:11
jribok lets check the usual first,    apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx03:14
jribmake sure the version number match up03:14
PuRuresults: http://paste.uni.cc/1214603:16
PuRujrib: (just because i forgot your name lol)03:17
jribagh they are different03:17
PuRu_thats good news then thats the problem :-)03:17
jribsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:17
PuRu_is it fixable?03:17
PuRuis running03:18
jribreboot afterwards to make sure they get loaded03:18
PuRuok03:18
PuRu_lol its funny to see the same irc text on 2 screens03:18
jribwhat is 'apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-common' too while that is installing?03:19
PuRu_just run that in another terminal?03:19
jribyeah03:19
PuRunvidia-kernel-common:03:20
PuRu  Genstalleerd: 20051028+1ubuntu703:20
PuRu  Kandidaat: 20051028+1ubuntu703:20
PuRu  Versietabel:03:20
PuRu *** 20051028+1ubuntu7 003:20
PuRu        500 http://be.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages03:20
PuRu        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status03:20
jribok03:20
PuRu_rebooting :-)03:25
PuRu_i boot into generic?03:25
jrib2yep03:25
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jriby/n?03:27
PuRuback03:27
PuRu_y/n what?03:27
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jribare you using nvidia?03:27
PuRu_i dunno, don't think so03:28
PuRu_i do ctrl-alt-backspace to test?03:28
jriboh we didn't do nvidia-xconfig03:28
jribheh03:28
PuRu_so i do that one?03:28
jribyep03:28
PuRu_and then ctrl-alt-backspace?03:28
jribyes03:29
PuRu_black screen...03:30
PuRu_ctrl-alt-F1 doesnt work03:30
PuRu_i'm assuming linux crashed yet again?03:31
PuRu_(at this point it crashes more then any windows i ever used)03:31
jribhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29301403:32
PuRu_the capslock doesnt evne work anymore so its crashed for sure03:32
jribhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1700610#post170061003:32
jribwe can try that03:32
PuRu_downgrading?03:33
PuRu_i can't really find what u mean03:33
jribwell we could try that as well03:33
PuRu_what did u mean?03:34
PuRu_i only read something about downgrading03:34
jribjust reading through everything, those people seem to be having similar problems03:34
PuRu_lol i give up03:36
PuRu_i'll use windows to VJ03:37
jribD:03:37
jriblets try the two suggestions03:37
PuRu_i cant even boot into linux no more...03:37
jribchoose "recovery mode" from the grub menu and restore the backup03:38
PuRu_can't try anything03:38
PuRu_its 3:40 in teh morning here lol03:39
jribthis is some kind of bug with the update03:41
jribthere are many threads on the forums now that I am looking03:41
PuRu_update from 6.06 to 6.10?03:42
jriboh I thought you were in 6.1003:43
PuRu_i am in 6.1003:43
PuRu_so i can't use the nvidia driiver with ubuntu?03:43
PuRu_of not with any linux?03:43
jribyou can, this is almost certainly a bug with this package03:43
jriblets downgrade to the earlier versions03:44
PuRu_if u know how03:44
PuRu_and if it doesnt take too long03:44
jribapt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx   again please03:44
PuRu_because its getting late lol03:44
PuRu_erm03:44
PuRu_i cant even start x yet03:44
jribok, let me find it in the scrollback03:44
PuRu_replacing didnt work03:44
PuRu_but i can't start x yet03:45
PuRu_fucking xorg.conf is dead again03:45
PuRu_why does the fuicking backup not work :s03:45
LjL!language03:45
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:45
PuRu_its impossible03:45
jribLjL: you know anything about this nvidia-glx problem?  There are a few threads on the forums but I don't remember it03:45
jribPuRu_: can you get to the recovery mode prompt ok?03:47
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PuRu_i can get to the normal prompt ok now03:47
LjLjrib: summarize?03:47
PuRu_but still no x03:47
jribLjL: he installs nvidia-glx and has linux-restricted-* but X refuses to start03:47
jribhttp://paste.uni.cc/12145 xorg.conf and http://paste.uni.cc/12144 log03:48
jriband I get a page full of search results on the forums, but I'm not really sure of a solution.  Most recommend installing the beta driver... was going to try downgrading now03:49
LjLjrib: shouldn't that use nvidia-glx-legacy?03:49
PuRu_nope03:49
jribnot according to the nvidia site, and I have a similar card03:49
PuRu_i checked that, at first i followed the tutorial03:49
PuRu_but that didnt work so i came to ask here03:50
PuRu_and i'm 100% sure its a 420 go :-)03:50
LjLhaven't got a clue03:53
jribhttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy#PROBLEMS_SECTION mentions our cards PuRu_ though I never did that and mine worked03:54
jribnumber 7 of the problems03:54
PuRu_what card do u have?04:02
PuRu_i'm gonna try this tomorrow04:02
PuRu_i'm too tired and need to work tomorrow04:03
PuRu_its 4 in the morning here04:03
jribI have the 44004:03
jribGeForce4 440 Go04:03
jribeasy way to downgrade would be to disable the security repository, remove nvidia-glx and the restricted packages and then install them again04:04
jribin case you want to try that too04:04
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PuRu_lol i'm even too tired to comprehend what you just typed04:05
PuRu_well i'm off to bed04:06
jribnight, hope you figure it out04:06
PuRu_i'll stay online, should u read something about it, please tell it here if i'm not disconnected yet04:06
PuRu_night night people04:07
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jribjoeshmo: hello06:41
joeshmohello06:41
joeshmoi think my fstab is real messed up06:41
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jribhmm, why?06:41
joeshmoit still has old ntfs lines in it06:41
joeshmoi got rid of those partitions and made them ext306:41
jribpastebin please06:41
joeshmopastebin?06:42
jrib!pastebin06:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:42
monoxideis it true linux can write on a fat 32 partition06:42
jribmonoxide: yes06:42
monoxidekool ill have to convert my NTSF then06:42
joeshmohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36584/06:42
jribmonoxide: windows can read and write to ext3 if you install the fs-driver06:43
monoxidefat32 seem easier06:43
monoxidei just have existing data from my old windows install06:43
jribfat32 doesn't support linux permissions however06:43
monoxideI am going to just be using linux for now but I might soon go back to windows06:44
jribjoeshmo: "interesting"06:44
jribmonoxide: nope, you'll never go back06:44
joeshmosee06:44
joeshmoits because i used pysdm06:44
joeshmoit made all new lines06:44
joeshmoi want to start over06:44
jribdid it/you make a backup?06:45
joeshmotheres 2 backups here06:46
joeshmoidk if i made them06:46
joeshmoor it06:46
joeshmobut they are the same06:46
joeshmoshould i just reinstall06:46
jribnah that's overkill06:46
jribpastebin the two backups06:46
joeshmohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36585/06:47
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joeshmohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36586/06:47
joeshmobefore pydsm there was just the top part06:47
jribhow about swap?06:48
joeshmoswap is on /dev/hda506:48
joeshmoi have no NTFS now either06:48
jribah i see it now06:48
joeshmobut theres still lines for NTFS there06:48
jribok, well just delete the ntfs lines does that resolve the problem?06:49
jrib18. /dev/hdd5                                  /media/hdd5     swap         sw                                  0  006:49
jrib21. /dev/hda2                                  /media/hda2     swap         sw                                  0  006:49
jribhow about those?06:49
joeshmowait06:50
joeshmoi deleted the hdd5 one06:50
joeshmoits only hda2 now06:50
jribok then maybe it's easier for you to delete all the ntfs, then go one by one with the ones below swap and keep what you have06:51
joeshmoso what does this fstab do anywyas06:51
jriberm, below floppy06:51
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joeshmoi read if its not in fstab then only root can use it?06:51
jribjoeshmo: it's the partitions that get mounted06:51
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jribno, it just doesn't get mounted when you boot06:51
jribbut yeah, only root can mount stuff not in fstab06:52
joeshmook06:52
joeshmoim just gonna delete it all and try doing it over with pydsm06:52
jribok06:52
joeshmobut what option would i have to put to make it read write06:52
joeshmorw?06:52
jribfor ext3, just use permissions, don't use any fstab options06:53
joeshmook06:53
joeshmopermissions stay after reboot right06:54
jribyes06:54
joeshmook im gonna try this pysdm with a new fstab06:55
joeshmobacked up the old one06:55
joeshmohow do i chmod or chown them tho06:57
joeshmoi dont understand it06:57
joeshmohow u use a number06:57
jribtake care of mounting them first, then I'll give you a quick intro06:58
jribthat way we can actually try it on what you've mounted06:58
joeshmook ill be back06:58
joeshmohopefully06:58
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jribjoepits: ok, your / is still in fstab?07:02
joepitsnooo07:03
joepitsno /07:03
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jribmake sure you have proc, /, swap, cdrom, floppy like your old one did07:04
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jribjoepits: why did you leave by the way?07:06
joepitsrebooted07:07
joepitsdidnt have to right07:07
jribnope07:07
joepitsok07:08
joepitsthe old one had all 0 107:08
joepitsthe new one is all 0 007:08
joepitsi should make it 0 1?07:08
jribno07:08
jribonly / should be 0 107:08
joepitsok07:09
jribothers should have a 2 instead of a 1 if you want them checked07:09
joepitsproc       /proc        proc  defaults  0  007:09
joepits/dev/hda1  /            ext3  defaults,errors=remount-ro   0  107:09
joepits/dev/hda2  /media/hda2  swap  defaults  0  007:09
joepits/dev/hdb1  /media/hdb1  ext3  defaults  0  007:09
joepits/dev/hdd1  /media/hdd1  ext3  defaults  0  007:09
joepits/dev/sda2  /media/sda2  vfat  defaults  0  007:09
joepitswelll07:10
joepitsill do that stuff later07:10
joepitshow do i chmod to make it so all users can touch them07:10
joepitsi got my terminal open07:10
jribswap and cdrom and floppy you are missing07:10
jriboh not swap...07:10
joepitsoh07:11
jribyour swap looks different than your original, just copy what that one had07:11
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joepitshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36589/07:13
joepitsits pretty much the same as the old one but it doesnt have the UUID stuff idk what that is07:13
jribhda5 used to be your swap07:14
jribis that gone or something?07:15
joepitsya i got rid of that a while ago07:15
joepitsdo i just chmod 77707:15
jribok so lets do that, but don't forget you are missing floppy and cdrom07:16
jribso if you have a permission like that with 3 numbers lets say 77707:16
jribthen the first number applies to the owner07:16
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jribthe second number applies to the group07:16
jribthe last number is for everyone else, "other"07:16
joepitsdo i need a cdrom in there...07:17
joepitsif i put a cd in it works07:17
jribidk, it may mount it if you boot your computer wiht a cdrom in07:17
joepitsoh07:17
joepitsas for floppy, i cant find my cable07:17
jribk07:17
joepitsi dont really care about secuirty07:18
jribI would just put it in commented07:18
jribok, so each number represents read, write, and execute permissions07:18
joepitsok07:18
jribare you familiar with binary?07:18
joepitsa little07:18
jribok, 100 do you know what that is in binary?07:19
joepitsno07:19
jrib1*2^2 + 0*2^1 + 0*2^0 = 407:19
joepitsoh right07:19
jrib010 then is 0*2^2 + 1*2^1 + 0*2^0 = 207:19
jriband 001 is 107:19
jribnow 7 is 4 + 2 + 1 = 111 in binary07:20
jribso you can think about it this way, the first spot in binary is read, the second is write, the last is execute07:20
jribor 4 is for read, 2 is for write, 1 is for execute07:20
joepitswow07:21
jribif you want to give read and write, you add the numbers.  4+2=607:21
jribnotice in binary this is 11007:21
TheGilmanator(Sorry to butt in, but it all makes sense now. It's taken me several years to get that. Thanks, jrib!)07:21
joepitsnow whyd they do it that way07:21
joepitsjust to be nerdy?07:21
jribwell it's a concise way to represent it, idk why they did it that way07:22
joepitsso i want all users to read write and execute07:22
jribok, what do you think it should be then?07:22
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jribTheGilmanator: np :)07:22
joepits77707:22
TheGilmanatorjrib: I'll never have to look up a table again!07:22
jribright, 7 gives read write and execute.  And you have 7 for users, for group, and for others07:23
joepitsso i do that for the /dev/hdb1 etcetera07:23
joepitsor for the /media/hdb107:23
jribjust for the mount point07:23
jribsudo chmod 777 /media/hdb107:23
jribchmod lets use easier ways to represent a permission as well07:24
jriblike   a+rwx   means give users, groups, and others read write and execute permissions07:25
joepitsok07:25
joepitslost and found07:25
joepitsi cant get in there still but thas because its a root only thing?07:26
jribhmm I'm not sure if permissions amtter or not, but you shouldn't use it.  It's for the filesystem07:27
joepitsok07:27
joepitswell as long as i can put my files there which i can07:27
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jribjoepits: did you try one of the paritions to test it out?07:28
joepitsyeah i dragged af ile onto it07:28
joepitsand it worked07:28
joepitsidk why they cant give u a tool for that in ubuntu07:29
joepitsbut anywyas thanks for ur help07:30
jribjoepits: you can right click07:30
joepitsive been fretting over it all night07:30
jribthen permissions07:30
joepitsyeah07:30
joepitsbut it says i cant ch ange them because im not root07:30
jribbut you'd need to run nautilus with 'gksudo nautilus'07:30
joepitsohh07:30
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joepitsjust do that from console?07:31
joepitsand it will start gdm and stuff07:31
joepitsi know the other way to start gdm07:31
jribjoepits: start gdm?07:31
joepitsidk07:31
joepitsthe window manager07:31
joepitsor something07:31
jribyou are in gnome at the moment?07:31
joepitsya07:31
jribjust type 'gksudo nautilus' in a terminal07:31
joepitsok it didnt work07:33
joepitsjoe@joe-desktop:~$ gksudo nautilus07:33
joepits(nautilus:6173): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:07:33
joepitsAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.07:33
joepits(nautilus:6173): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.07:33
joepitsVolume monitoring will not work.07:33
joepitsjoe@joe-desktop:~$ gksu07:33
joepitsjoe@joe-desktop:~$07:33
jribdid nautilus still start?07:33
joepitsoh well it opened up a new window yes07:34
joepitsi have to use that one?07:34
joepitsoh ya now i can do it through the permissions thing07:34
jribyes, use it for what you need and then close it.  You can really mess stuff up if you get used to using it, so I'd recommend avoiding it07:35
joepitsyeah they say taht07:35
joepitshehehehe07:35
joepitsnow im gonna go try and get wine to run CS07:35
joepitsTYTYTY again07:35
joepitsty and goodnight07:36
jribnight07:36
TheGilmanatorDude, seriously. How come nobody ever explained permissions to me like that before?07:37
jribspread the word07:38
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cntbwhat is "DCC SCHAT "?06:56
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tonyyarusso!exploit | cntb06:58
ubotucntb: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit06:58
cntbtonyyarusso, look pls06:59
cntb* Received 'DCC SCHAT "lol_jews_did_wtc" 0 0 0' from mrtanooki06:59
tonyyarussocntb: Yep, we all saw that one.06:59
cntbso what happened to mrtanooki ?07:00
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cntbtonyyarusso, must I fix all my installations of ubuntu ?07:01
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tonyyarussocntb: By putting that in #ubuntu people who are affected and haven't followed the instructions ubotu linked to get kicked offline, spamming the channel with quit messages.07:01
tonyyarussocntb: If you didn't get kicked off by it, you can ignore it, and/or shout explitives at people who need a better hobby.07:01
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LjLcntb: can you tell me when you received that? does your client timestamp?07:02
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cntbyes LjL07:13
cntb17:49:LjL,  timestamp  * Received 'DCC SCHAT "lol_jews_did_wtc" 0 0 0' from mrtanooki07:14
LjLtonyyarusso: actually i'd advice not speaking to them at all07:14
LjLi'm convinced that would be a positive feedback to them07:14
tonyyarussoLjL: Shoot, poor choice of words.07:14
tonyyarussocntb: I meant "shout at" as in at the computer, not actually interacting with the people.  :P07:14
tonyyarussoLjL: Better?07:14
LjLcntb: (that was just to check your timezone, don't worry ;)07:14
LjLtonyyarusso: ah, yeah =) the computer probably deserves the expletives anyway07:15
cntbI am not allowed to do such CTCp time LjL  right ?07:15
LjLcntb: you aren't an identified user, so i guess not07:15
LjL!register07:15
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration07:15
cntbnow I am identified07:16
cntbforgot to nickserv id07:16
cntb;-)07:17
cntbbtw any class hou any time soon ?07:18
LjLdon't think07:18
cntbpls do ;-)07:19
tonyyarussoThere's one on the calendar for this weekend; not sure of its status though.07:20
LjLwell i could improvise a class myself about, uh... dunno. if i have to think "is there anything i know particularly well?", i can't come up with anything :PO07:20
cntbhaha LjL  modest. good07:21
LjLwell, there are people who know a lot about one topic07:22
LjLthen there are people who know a few things about a few topics07:22
LjLthen there's me - there's a LOAD of things i know a whole nothing about07:23
cntbok still  you are helpful for quite some time to newcomers07:26
tonyyarussoLjL: We should have a class on cowspamming!07:28
cntbok what is cowspamming ?07:30
tonyyarussocntb: ASCII art pasting into the channel - normally a bad thing, but in special channels where nobody's trying to be productive, silly and fun ;)07:33
cntbah seen that ty07:36
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