jrib | do that nvidia config command | 12:03 |
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PuRu | sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ? | 12:04 |
jrib | yep | 12:04 |
PuRu_ | sudo nvidia-glx-config enable | 12:05 |
PuRu_ | oops wrong paste | 12:05 |
PuRu_ | ward@ward-laptop:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable | 12:05 |
PuRu_ | Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed | 12:05 |
PuRu_ | the nvidia driver for your running kernel. | 12:05 |
jrib | sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia | 12:06 |
PuRu_ | ward@ward-laptop:~$ sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia | 12:06 |
PuRu_ | ERROR: Module nvidia does not exist in /proc/modules | 12:06 |
jrib | ok | 12:06 |
jrib | sudo modprobe nvidia | 12:06 |
PuRu_ | ward@ward-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia | 12:07 |
PuRu_ | Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 12:07 |
PuRu_ | jrib: | 12:07 |
jrib | ok now does sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ? | 12:07 |
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PuRu_ | Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed | 12:08 |
PuRu_ | the nvidia driver for your running kernel. | 12:08 |
PuRu_ | lol | 12:08 |
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PuRu | told u my system is pissing me off | 12:08 |
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PuRu | reboot is not gonna change anything lol | 12:09 |
jrib | humor me please | 12:09 |
PuRu | is rebooting | 12:09 |
jrib | I'm pretty sure the problem was that package with a different version | 12:10 |
jrib | I just don't know enough about modules to load that up the right way... | 12:10 |
PuRu | rebooted | 12:11 |
PuRu | anyone else here who knows this? | 12:11 |
jrib | ok sudo nvidia-glx-config enable | 12:11 |
PuRu | just a sec | 12:11 |
PuRu | let me open xchat | 12:11 |
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PuRu_ | back | 12:12 |
PuRu_ | what i still dont understand is how can i install a wrong version if i follow the tutorial | 12:13 |
PuRu_ | ? | 12:13 |
PuRu_ | Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed | 12:13 |
PuRu_ | the nvidia driver for your running kernel. | 12:13 |
jrib | it's not that you installed the wrong version, it's taht the package didn't get upgraded for some reason | 12:13 |
jrib | apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-common | 12:13 |
jrib | what version is installed? | 12:13 |
PuRu | 6.10 | 12:13 |
PuRu | edgy | 12:13 |
jrib | I mean that the commands returns for linux-restricted-modules-common | 12:14 |
PuRu_ | he cant find the packet "linux-respricted-modules-commo" | 12:14 |
jrib | put an 'n' at the end | 12:14 |
PuRu_ | literally commo | 12:14 |
PuRu_ | linux-restricted-modules-common: | 12:15 |
PuRu_ | Genstalleerd: 2.6.17.6-1 | 12:15 |
PuRu_ | Kandidaat: 2.6.17.6-1 | 12:15 |
PuRu_ | Versietabel: | 12:15 |
PuRu_ | *** 2.6.17.6-1 0 | 12:15 |
PuRu_ | 500 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages | 12:15 |
PuRu_ | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 12:15 |
PuRu_ | 2.6.17.5-11 0 | 12:15 |
PuRu_ | 500 http://be.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages | 12:15 |
PuRu | sorry for the long paste, wanted to spare some time | 12:15 |
PuRu | pastebins seem slow | 12:15 |
jrib | ok, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx | 12:15 |
PuRu | genstalleerd = installed | 12:15 |
PuRu | kandidaat = candidate | 12:15 |
PuRu | versietabel = veriontable | 12:16 |
PuRu | versiontable | 12:16 |
PuRu_ | is working | 12:16 |
jrib | PuRu_: are you using the generic kernel? | 12:17 |
PuRu | 386 i believe | 12:17 |
PuRu | i dunno the difference | 12:17 |
PuRu | shall i reboot to make sure i choose for 386? | 12:18 |
jrib | no, generic should be it | 12:18 |
jrib | Some people on the forums had this same problem and they needed to use generic | 12:18 |
PuRu | i'll reboot and make sure i choose generic then | 12:18 |
jrib | k | 12:18 |
jrib | I assumed I was using generic, but apparently I'm not... strange | 12:20 |
PuRu | rebooted :-) | 12:21 |
jrib | uname -a says generic now? | 12:22 |
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PuRu_ | back | 12:23 |
PuRu_ | yes it says generic | 12:24 |
PuRu | sorry my dad came in | 12:24 |
PuRu | spliff is ready | 12:24 |
jrib | ok hopefully that command works now | 12:24 |
PuRu | time for a ganjabreak | 12:24 |
PuRu | wich command? | 12:25 |
jrib | sudo nvidia-glx-config enable | 12:25 |
PuRu_ | nope doesnt work lol | 12:26 |
PuRu | brb | 12:26 |
jrib | :/ | 12:26 |
PuRu | reinstall? | 12:26 |
PuRu | if so i set it up to reinstall while i'm smoking | 12:26 |
jrib | apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) | 12:26 |
PuRu | or shall i uninstall the nvidia-glx? | 12:27 |
PuRu | since its the wrong version :s | 12:27 |
PuRu | lol anyway brb | 12:27 |
PuRu | cant wait any longer | 12:27 |
jrib | heh ok | 12:27 |
jrib | hmm maybe it's nvidia-xconfig | 12:29 |
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PuRu_ | jrib: back | 12:41 |
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PuRu | you mean as a command? "nvidia-xconfig" | 12:44 |
jrib | PuRu: yeah | 12:46 |
jrib | I just read that that's the new way to do it in edgy | 12:46 |
jrib | (in the wiki) | 12:46 |
PuRu | i just did it | 12:47 |
jrib | but make sure linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) is installed | 12:47 |
PuRu | sudo nvidia-xconfig | 12:47 |
PuRu | lol then i did ctrl-alt-backspace | 12:47 |
jrib | ok did it work? | 12:47 |
PuRu | now i get a black screen after getting a cursus on the left top | 12:47 |
jrib | alright hit ctrl-alt-f1 and apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) | 12:48 |
PuRu | so no it didnt work :p | 12:48 |
PuRu | ctrl-alt-f1 didnt work | 12:48 |
PuRu | it was really a crash lol | 12:48 |
PuRu | i'm rebooting | 12:48 |
PuRu | i thought linux didnt crash fast :p | 12:48 |
jrib | maye the kernel | 12:48 |
jrib | X is easy to crash | 12:49 |
PuRu | damn lol | 12:49 |
PuRu | reboot does nothing | 12:49 |
PuRu | ctrl-alt-delete either | 12:49 |
PuRu | start with a fresh install maybe? | 12:49 |
PuRu | i think ubuntu is quite fucked up by now :p | 12:49 |
jrib | heh go for it | 12:49 |
PuRu | its done pretty fast anyway | 12:50 |
PuRu | and then we're 100% sure i got a standard ubuntu edgy | 12:50 |
PuRu | i work at a helpdesk (for windoze pc's, general home users) and we often start from scratch becasue thats the only way to be sure when something keeps going wrong | 12:51 |
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PuRu | *installing* | 12:54 |
PuRu | jrib: any idea why it didnt work the first time when i used the tutorial? | 12:56 |
jrib | maybe because you didn't have the generic kernel loaded | 12:56 |
jrib | or maybe not | 12:56 |
jrib | no I'm not really sure why it didn't work | 12:56 |
PuRu | that can be | 12:56 |
PuRu | that i didnt load the generic kernel | 12:57 |
PuRu | well now i got time for a new spliff while it installs :-) | 12:57 |
PuRu | got a car accident today, kinda have a bad day lol | 12:58 |
PuRu | and then ubuntu that keeps refusing to work with the nvidia driver on my system | 12:58 |
jrib | oh, you alright? | 12:58 |
PuRu | yeah, but the car = f*cked up | 12:59 |
PuRu | radiator = dead, airco radiator = also dead | 12:59 |
PuRu | front bumper = dead, front lights are dead, the hood = bend, ... | 12:59 |
jrib | well they happen, good thing is you are alright | 12:59 |
PuRu | yeah but still | 01:00 |
PuRu | i was gonna buy my own car | 01:01 |
PuRu | now i'm not gonna have moeny to by my own | 01:01 |
PuRu | because some idiot is parked in the middle of the street | 01:01 |
PuRu | i start to hate idiotic people more and more each day | 01:01 |
PuRu | every day at work nothing but idiots that call me... | 01:01 |
PuRu | on the road nothing but idiots that do stupid manouvres | 01:02 |
PuRu | this world is completely filled with idiots... | 01:02 |
PuRu | jrib: files are copying :-) | 01:06 |
jrib | cool | 01:08 |
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PuRu | my guess is he's ready in 20minutes at most | 01:08 |
cntb | o/ | 01:08 |
unix_infidel | what's this weeks session on? | 01:09 |
unix_infidel | the wik is sort of out of date. | 01:09 |
jrib | unix_infidel: atm I'm not sure we have an instructor | 01:10 |
PuRu | omg lol | 01:10 |
PuRu | the installer seems crashed! | 01:10 |
unix_infidel | what's the topic even :P | 01:10 |
unix_infidel | ? | 01:10 |
PuRu | just when i thought i had seen it all | 01:10 |
jrib | unix_infidel: The Linux Kernel | 01:11 |
PuRu | lol its my drive | 01:12 |
PuRu | the contact is bad lately | 01:12 |
PuRu | just glad its not my HD :-) | 01:12 |
PuRu | voila, working again | 01:15 |
jrib | unix_infidel: ok update, we do have an instructor | 01:16 |
PuRu | are there actually lessons given here or is this just the channel for n00bs? | 01:17 |
cntb | \o | 01:19 |
cntb | so room is not ghost town any more? | 01:19 |
tonyyarusso | Varies widely cntb . | 01:19 |
tonyyarusso | People are becoming more aware, which is fantastic. | 01:20 |
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cntb | well | 01:24 |
jrib | PuRu: there are actual lessons, see the schedule in the topic | 01:24 |
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jrib | this weekend! | 01:25 |
tonyyarusso | sweet | 01:25 |
jrib | tonyyarusso: what do you think sysadmin 101 entails? | 01:25 |
tonyyarusso | jrib: No idea...probably not too hard though if it's 101 | 01:26 |
LjL | jrib: chown/chmod? :P | 01:26 |
LjL | perhaps adduser | 01:26 |
tonyyarusso | jrib: You volunteering? | 01:27 |
jrib | tonyyarusso: well I don't know what exactly I would teach. But I wouldn't mind learning something new over the next couple of weeks so I could teach it | 01:28 |
LjL | you can teach that, trust me :P | 01:29 |
tonyyarusso | jrib: Awesome. I'll bet we could get some folks to guide you along too. There's a mailing list - could ask there. | 01:29 |
tonyyarusso | jrib: new_user_mentors@lists.novarata.net | 01:29 |
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jrib | I'm a member :) | 01:30 |
tonyyarusso | I don't personally consider myself "advanced", but I do run a server for kicks, so depending what they mean I might be able to handle that. | 01:30 |
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jrib | I don't think i ever get any mail from that list though | 01:31 |
jrib | PuRu_: working? | 01:31 |
PuRu_ | is reinstalling | 01:31 |
PuRu_ | yeah the contact of the drive is a bit bad | 01:32 |
PuRu_ | sometimes it doesnt work | 01:32 |
PuRu_ | the cd drive | 01:32 |
PuRu_ | jrib: installed / rebooting :-) | 01:46 |
jrib | gl | 01:46 |
PuRu_ | ubuntu = installed lol | 01:46 |
PuRu_ | not the driver | 01:46 |
PuRu_ | booting generic mode | 01:47 |
PuRu_ | (this was the only mode right now is that normal?) | 01:47 |
jrib | the generic kernel, yeah | 01:54 |
PuRu_ | allright, i'm booted :-) | 01:55 |
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PuRu_ | now what to do lol? | 02:07 |
PuRu_ | jirib: | 02:08 |
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jrib | PuRu_: ? | 02:28 |
tonyyarusso | !nickspam | Limulf | 02:30 |
ubotu | Limulf: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently | 02:30 |
tonyyarusso | (Not a very busy channel, but still, pick one ;) ) | 02:31 |
Limulf | Sorry a lot, i'll keep that in mind :-) | 02:31 |
PuRu_ | jrib: what can i try to make ubuntu install teh correct version? | 02:32 |
PuRu_ | or anyone else | 02:32 |
jrib | PuRu_: the wiki instructions should work, just install nvidia-glx and the restricted modules for your kernel | 02:32 |
PuRu_ | last time i did that exactly | 02:33 |
PuRu_ | so i assume this time it wont work | 02:33 |
PuRu_ | but it did it wit synaptic | 02:33 |
PuRu_ | can that matther? | 02:33 |
jrib | last time you had the other kernel remember? I found some people on the forums with the same issue | 02:33 |
jrib | so first, install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel | 02:34 |
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PuRu_ | wich command please? | 02:35 |
PuRu_ | (or tutorial if its more then one command) | 02:36 |
jrib | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia | 02:36 |
jrib | sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic | 02:36 |
PuRu_ | lol i allready did that last time | 02:37 |
PuRu_ | but not the command | 02:37 |
PuRu_ | "In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button." | 02:38 |
PuRu_ | no add button in the screen that pops up | 02:39 |
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jrib | PuRu_: you should have a checkbox for restricted | 02:40 |
PuRu_ | its just to enable all the packets? | 02:41 |
PuRu_ | if so then i know what u mean and did it | 02:41 |
jrib | k | 02:41 |
PuRu_ | yeah its the one i mean | 02:41 |
PuRu_ | i did that last time too | 02:41 |
PuRu_ | sould i do the command too? | 02:41 |
jrib | that should let you install linux-restricted-modules-generic | 02:41 |
PuRu_ | the install went fine | 02:42 |
PuRu_ | last time | 02:42 |
PuRu_ | no errors or anything | 02:42 |
jrib | k | 02:42 |
PuRu_ | it was after the install | 02:42 |
jrib | what card is this by the way? | 02:42 |
PuRu_ | 420 go with 32mb | 02:43 |
PuRu_ | (toshiba sattelite pro m10) | 02:44 |
jrib | ok should work, I have a similar card | 02:44 |
PuRu_ | its not legacy, i checked | 02:44 |
jrib | 440 go | 02:44 |
PuRu_ | what do u have? | 02:44 |
PuRu_ | i do this command right: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic | 02:44 |
PuRu_ | ? | 02:44 |
jrib | yeah, assuming 'uname -a' says you are running generic | 02:44 |
PuRu_ | ok did "sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic" | 02:47 |
PuRu_ | and its finished | 02:47 |
PuRu_ | now just install nvidia-glx trough synaptic? | 02:47 |
PuRu_ | or something else first? | 02:47 |
jrib | just nvidia-glx | 02:48 |
jrib | you can use aptitude for that too if you want | 02:48 |
PuRu_ | too late lol | 02:49 |
jrib | same thing | 02:49 |
PuRu_ | i just did sudo synaptic and then marked nvidia-glx | 02:50 |
jrib | k | 02:50 |
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PuRu_ | and then installed offcourse | 02:50 |
jrib | after it finishes, sudo nvidia-xconfig | 02:50 |
PuRu_ | it takes longer then last time i think | 02:52 |
PuRu_ | sudo nvidia-xconfig = done | 02:52 |
PuRu_ | what's next? | 02:52 |
jrib | ctrl-alt-backspace | 02:53 |
PuRu_ | *prays* | 02:53 |
PuRu_ | bang "failed to start x-server" | 02:53 |
jrib | seriously? | 02:54 |
PuRu_ | lol yeah | 02:54 |
PuRu_ | i'm looking at the ugly blue screen right now | 02:54 |
PuRu_ | wtf can be the problem lol | 02:55 |
PuRu_ | i don't get it | 02:55 |
jrib | cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Desktop , restore your backup xorg.conf and pastebin that | 02:55 |
PuRu_ | cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Desktop what does this command do? | 02:55 |
jrib | copies the Xorg.0.log to your desktop | 02:56 |
PuRu_ | what are the commands to restore please? | 02:57 |
PuRu_ | allways do this kind of stuff with x lol | 02:57 |
jrib | ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf* should list some files, what are they? | 02:58 |
PuRu_ | ls is one of the few commands i do know :-) | 02:58 |
PuRu_ | conf and conf.backup | 02:59 |
PuRu_ | i copy the xorg.conf to desktop and then rename the other one i assume | 02:59 |
jrib | PuRu_: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.broken && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 02:59 |
jrib | you could do that as well if you prefer | 03:00 |
PuRu_ | did it all | 03:02 |
PuRu_ | x = command to start x right? | 03:02 |
tonyyarusso | PuRu_: startx | 03:02 |
jrib | sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart | 03:02 |
tonyyarusso | or that | 03:02 |
PuRu_ | oh yeah :-) | 03:02 |
tonyyarusso | Actually, I'd go with the gdm method unless you have a reason not to | 03:02 |
jrib | tonyyarusso: does he need to reboot after install nvidia-glx? | 03:02 |
tonyyarusso | jrib: Not a clue. Try restarting X, if that doesn't work, then assume yes and see what happens ;0 | 03:03 |
tonyyarusso | ;) even | 03:03 |
PuRu_ | ok gui working | 03:03 |
jrib | ok well at least nv still works for you this time | 03:03 |
PuRu_ | but with the old xorg.conf lol | 03:03 |
PuRu_ | lol | 03:03 |
jrib | ok pastebin xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log on your desktop | 03:04 |
PuRu_ | how can this be possible? | 03:04 |
PuRu_ | ok | 03:04 |
PuRu_ | just a sec i'll install xchat | 03:04 |
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PuRu | voila | 03:08 |
PuRu | http://paste.uni.cc/12144 | 03:09 |
PuRu | thats the log | 03:09 |
PuRu | xorg.conf : http://paste.uni.cc/12145 | 03:10 |
PuRu_ | thats the xorg.conf that made x crash | 03:11 |
PuRu_ | and the log was also copyed to desktop before i restored the backup | 03:11 |
PuRu_ | anything unusual? | 03:11 |
jrib | ok lets check the usual first, apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx | 03:14 |
jrib | make sure the version number match up | 03:14 |
PuRu | results: http://paste.uni.cc/12146 | 03:16 |
PuRu | jrib: (just because i forgot your name lol) | 03:17 |
jrib | agh they are different | 03:17 |
PuRu_ | thats good news then thats the problem :-) | 03:17 |
jrib | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 03:17 |
PuRu_ | is it fixable? | 03:17 |
PuRu | is running | 03:18 |
jrib | reboot afterwards to make sure they get loaded | 03:18 |
PuRu | ok | 03:18 |
PuRu_ | lol its funny to see the same irc text on 2 screens | 03:18 |
jrib | what is 'apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-common' too while that is installing? | 03:19 |
PuRu_ | just run that in another terminal? | 03:19 |
jrib | yeah | 03:19 |
PuRu | nvidia-kernel-common: | 03:20 |
PuRu | Genstalleerd: 20051028+1ubuntu7 | 03:20 |
PuRu | Kandidaat: 20051028+1ubuntu7 | 03:20 |
PuRu | Versietabel: | 03:20 |
PuRu | *** 20051028+1ubuntu7 0 | 03:20 |
PuRu | 500 http://be.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages | 03:20 |
PuRu | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 03:20 |
jrib | ok | 03:20 |
PuRu_ | rebooting :-) | 03:25 |
PuRu_ | i boot into generic? | 03:25 |
jrib | 2yep | 03:25 |
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jrib | y/n? | 03:27 |
PuRu | back | 03:27 |
PuRu_ | y/n what? | 03:27 |
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jrib | are you using nvidia? | 03:27 |
PuRu_ | i dunno, don't think so | 03:28 |
PuRu_ | i do ctrl-alt-backspace to test? | 03:28 |
jrib | oh we didn't do nvidia-xconfig | 03:28 |
jrib | heh | 03:28 |
PuRu_ | so i do that one? | 03:28 |
jrib | yep | 03:28 |
PuRu_ | and then ctrl-alt-backspace? | 03:28 |
jrib | yes | 03:29 |
PuRu_ | black screen... | 03:30 |
PuRu_ | ctrl-alt-F1 doesnt work | 03:30 |
PuRu_ | i'm assuming linux crashed yet again? | 03:31 |
PuRu_ | (at this point it crashes more then any windows i ever used) | 03:31 |
jrib | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=293014 | 03:32 |
PuRu_ | the capslock doesnt evne work anymore so its crashed for sure | 03:32 |
jrib | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1700610#post1700610 | 03:32 |
jrib | we can try that | 03:32 |
PuRu_ | downgrading? | 03:33 |
PuRu_ | i can't really find what u mean | 03:33 |
jrib | well we could try that as well | 03:33 |
PuRu_ | what did u mean? | 03:34 |
PuRu_ | i only read something about downgrading | 03:34 |
jrib | just reading through everything, those people seem to be having similar problems | 03:34 |
PuRu_ | lol i give up | 03:36 |
PuRu_ | i'll use windows to VJ | 03:37 |
jrib | D: | 03:37 |
jrib | lets try the two suggestions | 03:37 |
PuRu_ | i cant even boot into linux no more... | 03:37 |
jrib | choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu and restore the backup | 03:38 |
PuRu_ | can't try anything | 03:38 |
PuRu_ | its 3:40 in teh morning here lol | 03:39 |
jrib | this is some kind of bug with the update | 03:41 |
jrib | there are many threads on the forums now that I am looking | 03:41 |
PuRu_ | update from 6.06 to 6.10? | 03:42 |
jrib | oh I thought you were in 6.10 | 03:43 |
PuRu_ | i am in 6.10 | 03:43 |
PuRu_ | so i can't use the nvidia driiver with ubuntu? | 03:43 |
PuRu_ | of not with any linux? | 03:43 |
jrib | you can, this is almost certainly a bug with this package | 03:43 |
jrib | lets downgrade to the earlier versions | 03:44 |
PuRu_ | if u know how | 03:44 |
PuRu_ | and if it doesnt take too long | 03:44 |
jrib | apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx again please | 03:44 |
PuRu_ | because its getting late lol | 03:44 |
PuRu_ | erm | 03:44 |
PuRu_ | i cant even start x yet | 03:44 |
jrib | ok, let me find it in the scrollback | 03:44 |
PuRu_ | replacing didnt work | 03:44 |
PuRu_ | but i can't start x yet | 03:45 |
PuRu_ | fucking xorg.conf is dead again | 03:45 |
PuRu_ | why does the fuicking backup not work :s | 03:45 |
LjL | !language | 03:45 |
ubotu | Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | 03:45 |
PuRu_ | its impossible | 03:45 |
jrib | LjL: you know anything about this nvidia-glx problem? There are a few threads on the forums but I don't remember it | 03:45 |
jrib | PuRu_: can you get to the recovery mode prompt ok? | 03:47 |
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PuRu_ | i can get to the normal prompt ok now | 03:47 |
LjL | jrib: summarize? | 03:47 |
PuRu_ | but still no x | 03:47 |
jrib | LjL: he installs nvidia-glx and has linux-restricted-* but X refuses to start | 03:47 |
jrib | http://paste.uni.cc/12145 xorg.conf and http://paste.uni.cc/12144 log | 03:48 |
jrib | and I get a page full of search results on the forums, but I'm not really sure of a solution. Most recommend installing the beta driver... was going to try downgrading now | 03:49 |
LjL | jrib: shouldn't that use nvidia-glx-legacy? | 03:49 |
PuRu_ | nope | 03:49 |
jrib | not according to the nvidia site, and I have a similar card | 03:49 |
PuRu_ | i checked that, at first i followed the tutorial | 03:49 |
PuRu_ | but that didnt work so i came to ask here | 03:50 |
PuRu_ | and i'm 100% sure its a 420 go :-) | 03:50 |
LjL | haven't got a clue | 03:53 |
jrib | http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy#PROBLEMS_SECTION mentions our cards PuRu_ though I never did that and mine worked | 03:54 |
jrib | number 7 of the problems | 03:54 |
PuRu_ | what card do u have? | 04:02 |
PuRu_ | i'm gonna try this tomorrow | 04:02 |
PuRu_ | i'm too tired and need to work tomorrow | 04:03 |
PuRu_ | its 4 in the morning here | 04:03 |
jrib | I have the 440 | 04:03 |
jrib | GeForce4 440 Go | 04:03 |
jrib | easy way to downgrade would be to disable the security repository, remove nvidia-glx and the restricted packages and then install them again | 04:04 |
jrib | in case you want to try that too | 04:04 |
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PuRu_ | lol i'm even too tired to comprehend what you just typed | 04:05 |
PuRu_ | well i'm off to bed | 04:06 |
jrib | night, hope you figure it out | 04:06 |
PuRu_ | i'll stay online, should u read something about it, please tell it here if i'm not disconnected yet | 04:06 |
PuRu_ | night night people | 04:07 |
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jrib | joeshmo: hello | 06:41 |
joeshmo | hello | 06:41 |
joeshmo | i think my fstab is real messed up | 06:41 |
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jrib | hmm, why? | 06:41 |
joeshmo | it still has old ntfs lines in it | 06:41 |
joeshmo | i got rid of those partitions and made them ext3 | 06:41 |
jrib | pastebin please | 06:41 |
joeshmo | pastebin? | 06:42 |
jrib | !pastebin | 06:42 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 06:42 |
monoxide | is it true linux can write on a fat 32 partition | 06:42 |
jrib | monoxide: yes | 06:42 |
monoxide | kool ill have to convert my NTSF then | 06:42 |
joeshmo | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36584/ | 06:42 |
jrib | monoxide: windows can read and write to ext3 if you install the fs-driver | 06:43 |
monoxide | fat32 seem easier | 06:43 |
monoxide | i just have existing data from my old windows install | 06:43 |
jrib | fat32 doesn't support linux permissions however | 06:43 |
monoxide | I am going to just be using linux for now but I might soon go back to windows | 06:44 |
jrib | joeshmo: "interesting" | 06:44 |
jrib | monoxide: nope, you'll never go back | 06:44 |
joeshmo | see | 06:44 |
joeshmo | its because i used pysdm | 06:44 |
joeshmo | it made all new lines | 06:44 |
joeshmo | i want to start over | 06:44 |
jrib | did it/you make a backup? | 06:45 |
joeshmo | theres 2 backups here | 06:46 |
joeshmo | idk if i made them | 06:46 |
joeshmo | or it | 06:46 |
joeshmo | but they are the same | 06:46 |
joeshmo | should i just reinstall | 06:46 |
jrib | nah that's overkill | 06:46 |
jrib | pastebin the two backups | 06:46 |
joeshmo | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36585/ | 06:47 |
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joeshmo | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36586/ | 06:47 |
joeshmo | before pydsm there was just the top part | 06:47 |
jrib | how about swap? | 06:48 |
joeshmo | swap is on /dev/hda5 | 06:48 |
joeshmo | i have no NTFS now either | 06:48 |
jrib | ah i see it now | 06:48 |
joeshmo | but theres still lines for NTFS there | 06:48 |
jrib | ok, well just delete the ntfs lines does that resolve the problem? | 06:49 |
jrib | 18. /dev/hdd5 /media/hdd5 swap sw 0 0 | 06:49 |
jrib | 21. /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 swap sw 0 0 | 06:49 |
jrib | how about those? | 06:49 |
joeshmo | wait | 06:50 |
joeshmo | i deleted the hdd5 one | 06:50 |
joeshmo | its only hda2 now | 06:50 |
jrib | ok then maybe it's easier for you to delete all the ntfs, then go one by one with the ones below swap and keep what you have | 06:51 |
joeshmo | so what does this fstab do anywyas | 06:51 |
jrib | erm, below floppy | 06:51 |
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joeshmo | i read if its not in fstab then only root can use it? | 06:51 |
jrib | joeshmo: it's the partitions that get mounted | 06:51 |
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jrib | no, it just doesn't get mounted when you boot | 06:51 |
jrib | but yeah, only root can mount stuff not in fstab | 06:52 |
joeshmo | ok | 06:52 |
joeshmo | im just gonna delete it all and try doing it over with pydsm | 06:52 |
jrib | ok | 06:52 |
joeshmo | but what option would i have to put to make it read write | 06:52 |
joeshmo | rw? | 06:52 |
jrib | for ext3, just use permissions, don't use any fstab options | 06:53 |
joeshmo | ok | 06:53 |
joeshmo | permissions stay after reboot right | 06:54 |
jrib | yes | 06:54 |
joeshmo | ok im gonna try this pysdm with a new fstab | 06:55 |
joeshmo | backed up the old one | 06:55 |
joeshmo | how do i chmod or chown them tho | 06:57 |
joeshmo | i dont understand it | 06:57 |
joeshmo | how u use a number | 06:57 |
jrib | take care of mounting them first, then I'll give you a quick intro | 06:58 |
jrib | that way we can actually try it on what you've mounted | 06:58 |
joeshmo | ok ill be back | 06:58 |
joeshmo | hopefully | 06:58 |
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jrib | joepits: ok, your / is still in fstab? | 07:02 |
joepits | nooo | 07:03 |
joepits | no / | 07:03 |
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jrib | make sure you have proc, /, swap, cdrom, floppy like your old one did | 07:04 |
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jrib | joepits: why did you leave by the way? | 07:06 |
joepits | rebooted | 07:07 |
joepits | didnt have to right | 07:07 |
jrib | nope | 07:07 |
joepits | ok | 07:08 |
joepits | the old one had all 0 1 | 07:08 |
joepits | the new one is all 0 0 | 07:08 |
joepits | i should make it 0 1? | 07:08 |
jrib | no | 07:08 |
jrib | only / should be 0 1 | 07:08 |
joepits | ok | 07:09 |
jrib | others should have a 2 instead of a 1 if you want them checked | 07:09 |
joepits | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 | 07:09 |
joepits | /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 | 07:09 |
joepits | /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 swap defaults 0 0 | 07:09 |
joepits | /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ext3 defaults 0 0 | 07:09 |
joepits | /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1 ext3 defaults 0 0 | 07:09 |
joepits | /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 vfat defaults 0 0 | 07:09 |
joepits | welll | 07:10 |
joepits | ill do that stuff later | 07:10 |
joepits | how do i chmod to make it so all users can touch them | 07:10 |
joepits | i got my terminal open | 07:10 |
jrib | swap and cdrom and floppy you are missing | 07:10 |
jrib | oh not swap... | 07:10 |
joepits | oh | 07:11 |
jrib | your swap looks different than your original, just copy what that one had | 07:11 |
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joepits | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36589/ | 07:13 |
joepits | its pretty much the same as the old one but it doesnt have the UUID stuff idk what that is | 07:13 |
jrib | hda5 used to be your swap | 07:14 |
jrib | is that gone or something? | 07:15 |
joepits | ya i got rid of that a while ago | 07:15 |
joepits | do i just chmod 777 | 07:15 |
jrib | ok so lets do that, but don't forget you are missing floppy and cdrom | 07:16 |
jrib | so if you have a permission like that with 3 numbers lets say 777 | 07:16 |
jrib | then the first number applies to the owner | 07:16 |
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jrib | the second number applies to the group | 07:16 |
jrib | the last number is for everyone else, "other" | 07:16 |
joepits | do i need a cdrom in there... | 07:17 |
joepits | if i put a cd in it works | 07:17 |
jrib | idk, it may mount it if you boot your computer wiht a cdrom in | 07:17 |
joepits | oh | 07:17 |
joepits | as for floppy, i cant find my cable | 07:17 |
jrib | k | 07:17 |
joepits | i dont really care about secuirty | 07:18 |
jrib | I would just put it in commented | 07:18 |
jrib | ok, so each number represents read, write, and execute permissions | 07:18 |
joepits | ok | 07:18 |
jrib | are you familiar with binary? | 07:18 |
joepits | a little | 07:18 |
jrib | ok, 100 do you know what that is in binary? | 07:19 |
joepits | no | 07:19 |
jrib | 1*2^2 + 0*2^1 + 0*2^0 = 4 | 07:19 |
joepits | oh right | 07:19 |
jrib | 010 then is 0*2^2 + 1*2^1 + 0*2^0 = 2 | 07:19 |
jrib | and 001 is 1 | 07:19 |
jrib | now 7 is 4 + 2 + 1 = 111 in binary | 07:20 |
jrib | so you can think about it this way, the first spot in binary is read, the second is write, the last is execute | 07:20 |
jrib | or 4 is for read, 2 is for write, 1 is for execute | 07:20 |
joepits | wow | 07:21 |
jrib | if you want to give read and write, you add the numbers. 4+2=6 | 07:21 |
jrib | notice in binary this is 110 | 07:21 |
TheGilmanator | (Sorry to butt in, but it all makes sense now. It's taken me several years to get that. Thanks, jrib!) | 07:21 |
joepits | now whyd they do it that way | 07:21 |
joepits | just to be nerdy? | 07:21 |
jrib | well it's a concise way to represent it, idk why they did it that way | 07:22 |
joepits | so i want all users to read write and execute | 07:22 |
jrib | ok, what do you think it should be then? | 07:22 |
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jrib | TheGilmanator: np :) | 07:22 |
joepits | 777 | 07:22 |
TheGilmanator | jrib: I'll never have to look up a table again! | 07:22 |
jrib | right, 7 gives read write and execute. And you have 7 for users, for group, and for others | 07:23 |
joepits | so i do that for the /dev/hdb1 etcetera | 07:23 |
joepits | or for the /media/hdb1 | 07:23 |
jrib | just for the mount point | 07:23 |
jrib | sudo chmod 777 /media/hdb1 | 07:23 |
jrib | chmod lets use easier ways to represent a permission as well | 07:24 |
jrib | like a+rwx means give users, groups, and others read write and execute permissions | 07:25 |
joepits | ok | 07:25 |
joepits | lost and found | 07:25 |
joepits | i cant get in there still but thas because its a root only thing? | 07:26 |
jrib | hmm I'm not sure if permissions amtter or not, but you shouldn't use it. It's for the filesystem | 07:27 |
joepits | ok | 07:27 |
joepits | well as long as i can put my files there which i can | 07:27 |
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jrib | joepits: did you try one of the paritions to test it out? | 07:28 |
joepits | yeah i dragged af ile onto it | 07:28 |
joepits | and it worked | 07:28 |
joepits | idk why they cant give u a tool for that in ubuntu | 07:29 |
joepits | but anywyas thanks for ur help | 07:30 |
jrib | joepits: you can right click | 07:30 |
joepits | ive been fretting over it all night | 07:30 |
jrib | then permissions | 07:30 |
joepits | yeah | 07:30 |
joepits | but it says i cant ch ange them because im not root | 07:30 |
jrib | but you'd need to run nautilus with 'gksudo nautilus' | 07:30 |
joepits | ohh | 07:30 |
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joepits | just do that from console? | 07:31 |
joepits | and it will start gdm and stuff | 07:31 |
joepits | i know the other way to start gdm | 07:31 |
jrib | joepits: start gdm? | 07:31 |
joepits | idk | 07:31 |
joepits | the window manager | 07:31 |
joepits | or something | 07:31 |
jrib | you are in gnome at the moment? | 07:31 |
joepits | ya | 07:31 |
jrib | just type 'gksudo nautilus' in a terminal | 07:31 |
joepits | ok it didnt work | 07:33 |
joepits | joe@joe-desktop:~$ gksudo nautilus | 07:33 |
joepits | (nautilus:6173): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: | 07:33 |
joepits | Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. | 07:33 |
joepits | (nautilus:6173): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. | 07:33 |
joepits | Volume monitoring will not work. | 07:33 |
joepits | joe@joe-desktop:~$ gksu | 07:33 |
joepits | joe@joe-desktop:~$ | 07:33 |
jrib | did nautilus still start? | 07:33 |
joepits | oh well it opened up a new window yes | 07:34 |
joepits | i have to use that one? | 07:34 |
joepits | oh ya now i can do it through the permissions thing | 07:34 |
jrib | yes, use it for what you need and then close it. You can really mess stuff up if you get used to using it, so I'd recommend avoiding it | 07:35 |
joepits | yeah they say taht | 07:35 |
joepits | hehehehe | 07:35 |
joepits | now im gonna go try and get wine to run CS | 07:35 |
joepits | TYTYTY again | 07:35 |
joepits | ty and goodnight | 07:36 |
jrib | night | 07:36 |
TheGilmanator | Dude, seriously. How come nobody ever explained permissions to me like that before? | 07:37 |
jrib | spread the word | 07:38 |
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cntb | what is "DCC SCHAT "? | 06:56 |
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tonyyarusso | !exploit | cntb | 06:58 |
ubotu | cntb: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit | 06:58 |
cntb | tonyyarusso, look pls | 06:59 |
cntb | * Received 'DCC SCHAT "lol_jews_did_wtc" 0 0 0' from mrtanooki | 06:59 |
tonyyarusso | cntb: Yep, we all saw that one. | 06:59 |
cntb | so what happened to mrtanooki ? | 07:00 |
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cntb | tonyyarusso, must I fix all my installations of ubuntu ? | 07:01 |
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tonyyarusso | cntb: By putting that in #ubuntu people who are affected and haven't followed the instructions ubotu linked to get kicked offline, spamming the channel with quit messages. | 07:01 |
tonyyarusso | cntb: If you didn't get kicked off by it, you can ignore it, and/or shout explitives at people who need a better hobby. | 07:01 |
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LjL | cntb: can you tell me when you received that? does your client timestamp? | 07:02 |
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cntb | yes LjL | 07:13 |
cntb | 17:49:LjL, timestamp * Received 'DCC SCHAT "lol_jews_did_wtc" 0 0 0' from mrtanooki | 07:14 |
LjL | tonyyarusso: actually i'd advice not speaking to them at all | 07:14 |
LjL | i'm convinced that would be a positive feedback to them | 07:14 |
tonyyarusso | LjL: Shoot, poor choice of words. | 07:14 |
tonyyarusso | cntb: I meant "shout at" as in at the computer, not actually interacting with the people. :P | 07:14 |
tonyyarusso | LjL: Better? | 07:14 |
LjL | cntb: (that was just to check your timezone, don't worry ;) | 07:14 |
LjL | tonyyarusso: ah, yeah =) the computer probably deserves the expletives anyway | 07:15 |
cntb | I am not allowed to do such CTCp time LjL right ? | 07:15 |
LjL | cntb: you aren't an identified user, so i guess not | 07:15 |
LjL | !register | 07:15 |
ubotu | Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration | 07:15 |
cntb | now I am identified | 07:16 |
cntb | forgot to nickserv id | 07:16 |
cntb | ;-) | 07:17 |
cntb | btw any class hou any time soon ? | 07:18 |
LjL | don't think | 07:18 |
cntb | pls do ;-) | 07:19 |
tonyyarusso | There's one on the calendar for this weekend; not sure of its status though. | 07:20 |
LjL | well i could improvise a class myself about, uh... dunno. if i have to think "is there anything i know particularly well?", i can't come up with anything :PO | 07:20 |
cntb | haha LjL modest. good | 07:21 |
LjL | well, there are people who know a lot about one topic | 07:22 |
LjL | then there are people who know a few things about a few topics | 07:22 |
LjL | then there's me - there's a LOAD of things i know a whole nothing about | 07:23 |
cntb | ok still you are helpful for quite some time to newcomers | 07:26 |
tonyyarusso | LjL: We should have a class on cowspamming! | 07:28 |
cntb | ok what is cowspamming ? | 07:30 |
tonyyarusso | cntb: ASCII art pasting into the channel - normally a bad thing, but in special channels where nobody's trying to be productive, silly and fun ;) | 07:33 |
cntb | ah seen that ty | 07:36 |
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