[12:03] do that nvidia config command [12:04] sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ? [12:04] yep [12:05] sudo nvidia-glx-config enable [12:05] oops wrong paste [12:05] ward@ward-laptop:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable [12:05] Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed [12:05] the nvidia driver for your running kernel. [12:06] sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia [12:06] ward@ward-laptop:~$ sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia [12:06] ERROR: Module nvidia does not exist in /proc/modules [12:06] ok [12:06] sudo modprobe nvidia [12:07] ward@ward-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia [12:07] Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [12:07] jrib: [12:07] ok now does sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ? === Ubotwo [n=ubotwo@81-208-36-87.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:08] Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed [12:08] the nvidia driver for your running kernel. [12:08] lol === jrib is confused [12:08] told u my system is pissing me off === jrib whispers quietly to PuRu , reboot [12:09] reboot is not gonna change anything lol [12:09] humor me please [12:09] is rebooting [12:10] I'm pretty sure the problem was that package with a different version [12:10] I just don't know enough about modules to load that up the right way... [12:11] rebooted [12:11] anyone else here who knows this? [12:11] ok sudo nvidia-glx-config enable [12:11] just a sec [12:11] let me open xchat === PuRu_ [n=ward@102.7-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:12] back [12:13] what i still dont understand is how can i install a wrong version if i follow the tutorial [12:13] ? [12:13] Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed [12:13] the nvidia driver for your running kernel. [12:13] it's not that you installed the wrong version, it's taht the package didn't get upgraded for some reason [12:13] apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-common [12:13] what version is installed? [12:13] 6.10 [12:13] edgy [12:14] I mean that the commands returns for linux-restricted-modules-common [12:14] he cant find the packet "linux-respricted-modules-commo" [12:14] put an 'n' at the end [12:14] literally commo [12:15] linux-restricted-modules-common: [12:15] Genstalleerd: 2.6.17.6-1 [12:15] Kandidaat: 2.6.17.6-1 [12:15] Versietabel: [12:15] *** 2.6.17.6-1 0 [12:15] 500 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages [12:15] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [12:15] 2.6.17.5-11 0 [12:15] 500 http://be.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages [12:15] sorry for the long paste, wanted to spare some time [12:15] pastebins seem slow [12:15] ok, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx [12:15] genstalleerd = installed [12:15] kandidaat = candidate [12:16] versietabel = veriontable [12:16] versiontable [12:16] is working [12:17] PuRu_: are you using the generic kernel? [12:17] 386 i believe [12:17] i dunno the difference [12:18] shall i reboot to make sure i choose for 386? [12:18] no, generic should be it [12:18] Some people on the forums had this same problem and they needed to use generic [12:18] i'll reboot and make sure i choose generic then [12:18] k [12:20] I assumed I was using generic, but apparently I'm not... strange [12:21] rebooted :-) [12:22] uname -a says generic now? === PuRu_ [n=ward@102.7-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:23] back [12:24] yes it says generic [12:24] sorry my dad came in [12:24] spliff is ready [12:24] ok hopefully that command works now [12:24] time for a ganjabreak [12:25] wich command? [12:25] sudo nvidia-glx-config enable [12:26] nope doesnt work lol [12:26] brb [12:26] :/ [12:26] reinstall? [12:26] if so i set it up to reinstall while i'm smoking [12:26] apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) [12:27] or shall i uninstall the nvidia-glx? [12:27] since its the wrong version :s [12:27] lol anyway brb [12:27] cant wait any longer [12:27] heh ok [12:29] hmm maybe it's nvidia-xconfig === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:41] jrib: back === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:44] you mean as a command? "nvidia-xconfig" [12:46] PuRu: yeah [12:46] I just read that that's the new way to do it in edgy [12:46] (in the wiki) [12:47] i just did it [12:47] but make sure linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) is installed [12:47] sudo nvidia-xconfig [12:47] lol then i did ctrl-alt-backspace [12:47] ok did it work? [12:47] now i get a black screen after getting a cursus on the left top [12:48] alright hit ctrl-alt-f1 and apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) [12:48] so no it didnt work :p [12:48] ctrl-alt-f1 didnt work [12:48] it was really a crash lol [12:48] i'm rebooting [12:48] i thought linux didnt crash fast :p [12:48] maye the kernel [12:49] X is easy to crash [12:49] damn lol [12:49] reboot does nothing [12:49] ctrl-alt-delete either [12:49] start with a fresh install maybe? [12:49] i think ubuntu is quite fucked up by now :p [12:49] heh go for it [12:50] its done pretty fast anyway [12:50] and then we're 100% sure i got a standard ubuntu edgy [12:51] i work at a helpdesk (for windoze pc's, general home users) and we often start from scratch becasue thats the only way to be sure when something keeps going wrong === selinuxium [n=selinium@82-34-184-164.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:54] *installing* [12:56] jrib: any idea why it didnt work the first time when i used the tutorial? [12:56] maybe because you didn't have the generic kernel loaded [12:56] or maybe not [12:56] no I'm not really sure why it didn't work [12:56] that can be [12:57] that i didnt load the generic kernel [12:57] well now i got time for a new spliff while it installs :-) [12:58] got a car accident today, kinda have a bad day lol [12:58] and then ubuntu that keeps refusing to work with the nvidia driver on my system [12:58] oh, you alright? [12:59] yeah, but the car = f*cked up [12:59] radiator = dead, airco radiator = also dead [12:59] front bumper = dead, front lights are dead, the hood = bend, ... [12:59] well they happen, good thing is you are alright [01:00] yeah but still [01:01] i was gonna buy my own car [01:01] now i'm not gonna have moeny to by my own [01:01] because some idiot is parked in the middle of the street [01:01] i start to hate idiotic people more and more each day [01:01] every day at work nothing but idiots that call me... [01:02] on the road nothing but idiots that do stupid manouvres [01:02] this world is completely filled with idiots... [01:06] jrib: files are copying :-) [01:08] cool === unix_infidel [n=blue@unaffiliated/unixinfidel/x-8383745] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === cntb [n=user@85-250-246-68.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:08] my guess is he's ready in 20minutes at most [01:08] o/ [01:09] what's this weeks session on? [01:09] the wik is sort of out of date. [01:10] unix_infidel: atm I'm not sure we have an instructor [01:10] omg lol [01:10] the installer seems crashed! [01:10] what's the topic even :P [01:10] ? [01:10] just when i thought i had seen it all [01:11] unix_infidel: The Linux Kernel [01:12] lol its my drive [01:12] the contact is bad lately [01:12] just glad its not my HD :-) [01:15] voila, working again [01:16] unix_infidel: ok update, we do have an instructor [01:17] are there actually lessons given here or is this just the channel for n00bs? [01:19] \o [01:19] so room is not ghost town any more? [01:19] Varies widely cntb . [01:20] People are becoming more aware, which is fantastic. === cntb trying to spread the word in vicinity [01:24] well [01:24] PuRu: there are actual lessons, see the schedule in the topic === tonyyarusso looks when the next one is supposed to be [01:25] this weekend! [01:25] sweet [01:25] tonyyarusso: what do you think sysadmin 101 entails? [01:26] jrib: No idea...probably not too hard though if it's 101 [01:26] jrib: chown/chmod? :P [01:26] perhaps adduser [01:27] jrib: You volunteering? [01:28] tonyyarusso: well I don't know what exactly I would teach. But I wouldn't mind learning something new over the next couple of weeks so I could teach it [01:29] you can teach that, trust me :P [01:29] jrib: Awesome. I'll bet we could get some folks to guide you along too. There's a mailing list - could ask there. [01:29] jrib: new_user_mentors@lists.novarata.net === tonyyarusso ponders the "advanced" one [01:30] I'm a member :) [01:30] I don't personally consider myself "advanced", but I do run a server for kicks, so depending what they mean I might be able to handle that. === PuRu_ [n=wardje20@102.7-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mbamford [n=Matt@d207-81-186-112.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:31] I don't think i ever get any mail from that list though [01:31] PuRu_: working? [01:31] is reinstalling [01:32] yeah the contact of the drive is a bit bad [01:32] sometimes it doesnt work [01:32] the cd drive [01:46] jrib: installed / rebooting :-) [01:46] gl [01:46] ubuntu = installed lol [01:46] not the driver [01:47] booting generic mode [01:47] (this was the only mode right now is that normal?) [01:54] the generic kernel, yeah [01:55] allright, i'm booted :-) === unix_infidel [n=blue@unaffiliated/unixinfidel/x-8383745] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === stalefries [n=stalefri@pool-71-121-157-20.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === stalefries [n=stalefri@pool-71-121-157-20.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["I've] [02:07] now what to do lol? [02:08] jirib: === luisbg_ [n=LuisB_G@87.217.144.239] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:28] PuRu_: ? [02:30] !nickspam | Limulf [02:30] Limulf: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away " to set your client away silently [02:31] (Not a very busy channel, but still, pick one ;) ) [02:31] Sorry a lot, i'll keep that in mind :-) [02:32] jrib: what can i try to make ubuntu install teh correct version? [02:32] or anyone else [02:32] PuRu_: the wiki instructions should work, just install nvidia-glx and the restricted modules for your kernel [02:33] last time i did that exactly [02:33] so i assume this time it wont work [02:33] but it did it wit synaptic [02:33] can that matther? [02:33] last time you had the other kernel remember? I found some people on the forums with the same issue [02:34] so first, install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel === tmccrary [n=tmccrary@d14-69-160-83.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:35] wich command please? [02:36] (or tutorial if its more then one command) [02:36] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [02:36] sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic [02:37] lol i allready did that last time [02:37] but not the command [02:38] "In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button." [02:39] no add button in the screen that pops up === tmccrary [n=tmccrary@d14-69-160-83.try.wideopenwest.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [02:40] PuRu_: you should have a checkbox for restricted [02:41] its just to enable all the packets? [02:41] if so then i know what u mean and did it [02:41] k [02:41] yeah its the one i mean [02:41] i did that last time too [02:41] sould i do the command too? [02:41] that should let you install linux-restricted-modules-generic [02:42] the install went fine [02:42] last time [02:42] no errors or anything [02:42] k [02:42] it was after the install [02:42] what card is this by the way? [02:43] 420 go with 32mb [02:44] (toshiba sattelite pro m10) [02:44] ok should work, I have a similar card [02:44] its not legacy, i checked [02:44] 440 go [02:44] what do u have? [02:44] i do this command right: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic [02:44] ? [02:44] yeah, assuming 'uname -a' says you are running generic [02:47] ok did "sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic" [02:47] and its finished [02:47] now just install nvidia-glx trough synaptic? [02:47] or something else first? [02:48] just nvidia-glx [02:48] you can use aptitude for that too if you want [02:49] too late lol [02:49] same thing [02:50] i just did sudo synaptic and then marked nvidia-glx [02:50] k === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:50] and then installed offcourse [02:50] after it finishes, sudo nvidia-xconfig [02:52] it takes longer then last time i think [02:52] sudo nvidia-xconfig = done [02:52] what's next? [02:53] ctrl-alt-backspace [02:53] *prays* [02:53] bang "failed to start x-server" [02:54] seriously? [02:54] lol yeah [02:54] i'm looking at the ugly blue screen right now [02:55] wtf can be the problem lol [02:55] i don't get it [02:55] cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Desktop , restore your backup xorg.conf and pastebin that [02:55] cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Desktop what does this command do? [02:56] copies the Xorg.0.log to your desktop [02:57] what are the commands to restore please? [02:57] allways do this kind of stuff with x lol [02:58] ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf* should list some files, what are they? [02:58] ls is one of the few commands i do know :-) [02:59] conf and conf.backup [02:59] i copy the xorg.conf to desktop and then rename the other one i assume [02:59] PuRu_: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.broken && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf [03:00] you could do that as well if you prefer [03:02] did it all [03:02] x = command to start x right? [03:02] PuRu_: startx [03:02] sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart [03:02] or that [03:02] oh yeah :-) [03:02] Actually, I'd go with the gdm method unless you have a reason not to [03:02] tonyyarusso: does he need to reboot after install nvidia-glx? [03:03] jrib: Not a clue. Try restarting X, if that doesn't work, then assume yes and see what happens ;0 [03:03] ;) even [03:03] ok gui working [03:03] ok well at least nv still works for you this time [03:03] but with the old xorg.conf lol [03:03] lol [03:04] ok pastebin xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log on your desktop [03:04] how can this be possible? [03:04] ok [03:04] just a sec i'll install xchat === PuRu [n=ward@102.7-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:08] voila [03:09] http://paste.uni.cc/12144 [03:09] thats the log [03:10] xorg.conf : http://paste.uni.cc/12145 [03:11] thats the xorg.conf that made x crash [03:11] and the log was also copyed to desktop before i restored the backup [03:11] anything unusual? [03:14] ok lets check the usual first, apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx [03:14] make sure the version number match up [03:16] results: http://paste.uni.cc/12146 [03:17] jrib: (just because i forgot your name lol) [03:17] agh they are different [03:17] thats good news then thats the problem :-) [03:17] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [03:17] is it fixable? [03:18] is running [03:18] reboot afterwards to make sure they get loaded [03:18] ok [03:18] lol its funny to see the same irc text on 2 screens [03:19] what is 'apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-common' too while that is installing? [03:19] just run that in another terminal? [03:19] yeah [03:20] nvidia-kernel-common: [03:20] Genstalleerd: 20051028+1ubuntu7 [03:20] Kandidaat: 20051028+1ubuntu7 [03:20] Versietabel: [03:20] *** 20051028+1ubuntu7 0 [03:20] 500 http://be.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages [03:20] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [03:20] ok [03:25] rebooting :-) [03:25] i boot into generic? [03:25] 2yep === PuRu [n=ward@102.7-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:27] y/n? [03:27] back [03:27] y/n what? === jrib waits in suspense [03:27] are you using nvidia? [03:28] i dunno, don't think so [03:28] i do ctrl-alt-backspace to test? [03:28] oh we didn't do nvidia-xconfig [03:28] heh [03:28] so i do that one? [03:28] yep [03:28] and then ctrl-alt-backspace? [03:29] yes [03:30] black screen... [03:30] ctrl-alt-F1 doesnt work [03:31] i'm assuming linux crashed yet again? [03:31] (at this point it crashes more then any windows i ever used) [03:32] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=293014 [03:32] the capslock doesnt evne work anymore so its crashed for sure [03:32] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1700610#post1700610 [03:32] we can try that [03:33] downgrading? [03:33] i can't really find what u mean [03:33] well we could try that as well [03:34] what did u mean? [03:34] i only read something about downgrading [03:34] just reading through everything, those people seem to be having similar problems [03:36] lol i give up [03:37] i'll use windows to VJ [03:37] D: [03:37] lets try the two suggestions [03:37] i cant even boot into linux no more... [03:38] choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu and restore the backup [03:38] can't try anything [03:39] its 3:40 in teh morning here lol [03:41] this is some kind of bug with the update [03:41] there are many threads on the forums now that I am looking [03:42] update from 6.06 to 6.10? [03:43] oh I thought you were in 6.10 [03:43] i am in 6.10 [03:43] so i can't use the nvidia driiver with ubuntu? [03:43] of not with any linux? [03:43] you can, this is almost certainly a bug with this package [03:44] lets downgrade to the earlier versions [03:44] if u know how [03:44] and if it doesnt take too long [03:44] apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx again please [03:44] because its getting late lol [03:44] erm [03:44] i cant even start x yet [03:44] ok, let me find it in the scrollback [03:44] replacing didnt work [03:45] but i can't start x yet [03:45] fucking xorg.conf is dead again [03:45] why does the fuicking backup not work :s [03:45] !language [03:45] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [03:45] its impossible [03:45] LjL: you know anything about this nvidia-glx problem? There are a few threads on the forums but I don't remember it [03:47] PuRu_: can you get to the recovery mode prompt ok? === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@ppp138-80.lns3.mel6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:47] i can get to the normal prompt ok now [03:47] jrib: summarize? [03:47] but still no x [03:47] LjL: he installs nvidia-glx and has linux-restricted-* but X refuses to start [03:48] http://paste.uni.cc/12145 xorg.conf and http://paste.uni.cc/12144 log [03:49] and I get a page full of search results on the forums, but I'm not really sure of a solution. Most recommend installing the beta driver... was going to try downgrading now [03:49] jrib: shouldn't that use nvidia-glx-legacy? [03:49] nope [03:49] not according to the nvidia site, and I have a similar card [03:49] i checked that, at first i followed the tutorial [03:50] but that didnt work so i came to ask here [03:50] and i'm 100% sure its a 420 go :-) [03:53]