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| MagicFab | what's the licence of content at https://help.ubuntu.com/community ? Like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/ScanModem ? | 02:47 |
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| dsas_ | MagicFab: funny subject. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiLicensing | 02:49 |
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| dsas_ | hi david_corrales Are you having any luck with scrollkeeper? | 02:50 |
| david_corrales | heya | 02:50 |
| david_corrales | actually I got the advice I was looking for | 02:50 |
| MagicFab | dsas, so it's currently *unlicensed* ??? | 02:51 |
| david_corrales | thanks for your interest :) | 02:51 |
| MagicFab | (well, (C) Canonical) | 02:51 |
| david_corrales | it was all about putting the docs inside /usr/share/gnome/help | 02:51 |
| david_corrales | to get them available through ghelp:name | 02:51 |
| dsas_ | MagicFab: Theoretically it's copyright Canonical yes. | 02:52 |
| MagicFab | ! | 02:53 |
| dsas_ | MagicFab: At least as far as I understand, I've not had anything to do with the discussions... the spec drafters are your best bet... | 02:53 |
| jjesse | i thought we were moving to cc-by-sa or something | 02:55 |
| jjesse | i can't keep it striaght eitehr | 02:55 |
| tonyyarusso | MagicFab: You get a glimpse of the headaches this is causing ;) | 02:55 |
| tonyyarusso | jjesse: They're trying to straighten it out, yes. | 02:55 |
| MagicFab | Well, I just came across a translation of those docs with a more restrictive licence | 02:55 |
| MagicFab | I just assumed it was all GFDL ! | 02:56 |
| dsas_ | jjesse: We are for the non-wiki docs, and I think it was/is intended to move the wiki docs to that license too | 02:56 |
| jjesse | i just let mdke_ take care of the licensing ;) | 02:57 |
| jjesse | i trust him | 02:57 |
| jjesse | i know the docs got/are getting relecincesd to match the official ubuntu book | 02:57 |
| dsas_ | MagicFab: No-one ever stuck a license on the wiki. Hence all the problems it's causing, the "everything is owned by canonical" is something that's been thrown into the argument since I was last up to date with it. | 02:58 |
| tonyyarusso | dsas_: The way I've heard it is that it legally belongs to the vague legal entity of "the doc team", but I dunno | 02:59 |
| dsas_ | tonyyarusso: That goes for the shipped docs, but not the wiki docs afaik | 02:59 |
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| tonyyarusso | Some of the wiki docs are the shipped docs though | 03:00 |
| tonyyarusso | Clear as a whirlpool in a mudpuddle | 03:00 |
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| dsas_ | tonyyarusso: heh, exactly. | 03:00 |
| dsas_ | david_corrales: Cool, how are the jokosher docs coming along? | 03:01 |
| MagicFab | Found the thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-November/007322.html | 03:02 |
| david_corrales | dsas_: well, I'm doing the final installation bits. Then, I'll have to tag the manual itself | 03:02 |
| MagicFab | Seems the spec was not accepted for a sprint at UDS, so it's been delayed | 03:02 |
| david_corrales | it needs updating and new secionts | 03:02 |
| david_corrales | sections* | 03:02 |
| dsas_ | MagicFab: that thread is about the shipped docs (the ones not in h.u.c/community) | 03:05 |
| MagicFab | huh | 03:05 |
| dsas_ | at least as I understand it... | 03:05 |
| dsas_ | MagicFab: There should be threads (and CC meeting logs) about the wiki licensing somewhere, though it's been going on for ages.. | 03:06 |
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| jjesse | mdke_ has been working for a long time on licesnign the wiki | 03:08 |
| jjesse | that's preety much all i know :) | 03:08 |
| MagicFab | Aren't the shipped docs bases on the community docs ? | 03:11 |
| jjesse | some of them are | 03:12 |
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| mdke_ | morning | 08:45 |
| Madpilot | hi mdke_ | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | hi mdke_ | 08:46 |
| somerville32 | hi mdke_ | 08:48 |
| mdke_ | how's it going? | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | it's going :-) | 08:56 |
| mdke_ | good | 08:57 |
| somerville32 | :] | 08:59 |
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| twosouls82 | hi all :) | 01:10 |
| willvdl | hi there | 01:10 |
| twosouls82 | I edited https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades | 01:18 |
| twosouls82 | can someone check it? | 01:18 |
| twosouls82 | I saved it a couple of times, my bad, sorry | 01:19 |
| twosouls82 | I edited because I had to use "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg" to get x working after upgrade instead of what was stated there | 01:20 |
| tonyyarusso | What did it say before? *curious* | 01:22 |
| twosouls82 | sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg, I left that notice below my edit ;) | 01:23 |
| twosouls82 | so you could revert | 01:23 |
| tonyyarusso | Hmm. I'm not familiar with the case in question, but seems to me 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' would be preferred to reinstalling. Don't know though. | 01:24 |
| twosouls82 | tonyyarusso: true, that was below the reinstall option, so I moved it up one | 01:24 |
| tonyyarusso | ah | 01:25 |
| twosouls82 | tonyyarusso: should I make it clearer that the reconfiguration is sufficient? (was on the phone) | 01:41 |
| tonyyarusso | twosouls82: If one works for sure, simplify it to only that. If it usually works, but the other may be necessary, say it like that. | 01:42 |
| twosouls82 | I will go for the last on e:) | 01:43 |
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| twosouls82 | tonyyarusso: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades | 02:07 |
| twosouls82 | fixed, finally, a lot of phone calls which I couldn't ignore | 02:08 |
| twosouls82 | grrr | 02:08 |
| twosouls82 | and I am not a multitasker | 02:08 |
| tonyyarusso | twosouls82: Looks pretty good | 02:09 |
| twosouls82 | good | 02:09 |
| twosouls82 | merci tonyyarusso for the feedback | 02:09 |
| twosouls82 | btw, I am allowed to edit and add documentation? who coordinates this? | 02:09 |
| twosouls82 | I just did without asking =) | 02:10 |
| tonyyarusso | That's basically how it works yes, although if you haven't done it much having folks look over your work is a great idea. (There's also a doc-team mailing list you may be interested in) | 02:11 |
| twosouls82 | tonyyarusso: I am looking for a regulation on the docs, does it exist too? | 02:12 |
| tonyyarusso | twosouls82: There's a Howto and guidelines, but I don't have the URLs handy | 02:12 |
| tonyyarusso | I'd start at /DocumentationTeam | 02:13 |
| twosouls82 | np, I will Google harder now that I know it does exists | 02:13 |
| twosouls82 | kay | 02:13 |
| === twosouls82 found all he need at https://wiki.edubuntu.org/CategoryDocteam 's children | ||
| tonyyarusso | yay | 02:16 |
| twosouls82 | s/need/needs/ | 02:16 |
| twosouls82 | w00t w00t | 02:16 |
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| mihakriket | I am working on some of the wiki documents but I have a general question. The wiki documents are the purpose of the wiki to provide the user with a howto on the subject or where to find information on the subject? | 09:30 |
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| LaserJock | mihakriket: well, they could be a bit of both | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | depends on the subject and how big it is | 09:34 |
| theCore | LaserJock: hi | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | sorry I missed the CC meeting, congrats | 09:36 |
| somerville32 | Hi | 09:36 |
| theCore | LaserJock: thanks | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | theCore: for some reason I thought the meeting was tomorrow | 09:37 |
| mihakriket | I am working on a document in reguards to the commandline. I asked for feedback from people on features they would like to see in the document. My feedback I received had to do with BASH scripting. During my research on the subject, I found alot of already written guides. | 09:37 |
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| LaserJock | mihakriket: I think a bit of both would be good | 09:37 |
| theCore | mihakriket: or the one doing the Advanced Command Line guide? | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | like have a few common examples in the wiki and then link to "For more information try:" | 09:38 |
| theCore | mihakriket: oh, yes it's you | 09:41 |
| theCore | I'm the guy who sent the list of suggestions on the mailing list :) | 09:42 |
| mihakriket | theCore: that is the reason why I asked the question, I wanted to get an idea of how to present the info. | 09:42 |
| mihakriket | Oh, ok. Did you get my email back on that? | 09:42 |
| theCore | mihakriket: yes | 09:42 |
| theCore | mihakriket: Obviously, writing a such guide will be hard | 09:43 |
| mihakriket | theCore: What did you think of the idea of having a seperate document on just BASH scripting? | 09:45 |
| theCore | the biggest challenge is to make the guide easy to read, so people without much experience can understand the content | 09:45 |
| theCore | mihakriket: I think you shouldn't cover BASH scripting | 09:45 |
| theCore | there's a lot of good guides out there about Bash scripting | 09:46 |
| theCore | you should really focus on the command line power tools | 09:46 |
| theCore | so, it should focus on "being productive with the command line" | 09:48 |
| mihakriket | That's what I was thinking too. I was going to use the suggestion about the different shells in a section. | 09:49 |
| theCore | I loves Zsh | 09:49 |
| LaserJock | I've seen a lot of bash scripting documentation | 09:50 |
| LaserJock | it would be nice to have a "Command-Line Productivity" guide | 09:50 |
| theCore | I think Bash scripting should be forbidden ... | 09:50 |
| theCore | mihakriket: where will you write the document? | 09:52 |
| mihakriket | I have added command line navagation, such as keystrokes as well as info on the history command. I was going to add a section about alias and env variables as well. I was going to remove the section on scripting. | 09:52 |
| mihakriket | theCore: I am updating the current document in the wiki. | 09:53 |
| theCore | URL? | 09:53 |
| mihakriket | theCore: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedCommandlineHowto?highlight=%28commandline%29 | 09:54 |
| theCore | thanks | 09:54 |
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| mihakriket | theCore: what do you think of the document? | 10:04 |
| theCore | mihakriket: not bad. I need some structure, tough | 10:05 |
| mihakriket | I have just started to edit the document, so I am just brain storming. | 10:08 |
| theCore | mihakriket: have you seen: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/shell-scripting/index.html ? | 10:09 |
| mihakriket | theCore: thanks, I will look at the doc. I was thinking of removing the scripting portion of the doc, this was in their before I starting editing the doc. | 10:12 |
| theCore | mihakriket: I'm writing something about shell globbing and regex | 10:15 |
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| mihakriket | theCore: I added a wildcard section in the CommandLine howto on the wiki. Maybe I can add a link to your document in the advance commandline doc? | 10:20 |
| mihakriket | theCore: I was going to add a section about regex but I will not, no use in redundancy in the wiki. | 10:24 |
| theCore | ? | 10:26 |
| theCore | the wiki doesn't contain a regex guide... | 10:26 |
| mihakriket | theCore: I was going to add a section on regex in the advance commandline doc. regex is used by some commands such as grep or awk correct? | 10:29 |
| theCore | mostly grep | 10:30 |
| theCore | not in AWK | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | ? | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | I think regex are used in awk, sed, a lot of tools | 10:33 |
| mihakriket | theCore: ok. | 10:33 |
| mihakriket | LaeserJock: that was what I was thinking, I was just double checking on that as we speak. | 10:34 |
| theCore | mihakriket: nevermind, awk uses regex | 10:34 |
| theCore | just a very weird type of regex | 10:34 |
| mihakriket | theCore: let me know when the document is completed, I will add a link in the Advanced commandline doc. | 10:35 |
| theCore | mihakriket: ok | 10:35 |
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| nixternal | i will say this everyone, we are definitely better doc wise then our mother Debian | 11:20 |
| nixternal | i have been scouring their docs today looking for some info, and it isn't that great | 11:21 |
| willvdl | hey nixternal, I remember seeing a discussion on why docs are not in bzr but can't seem to locate it anymore. | 11:30 |
| willvdl | any pointers? | 11:30 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: why the ubuntu docs aren't? | 11:30 |
| LaserJock | we had a dicussion at our last meeting and a little follow up on the mailing list | 11:31 |
| mihakriket | nixternal: Do you mean the quality of the docs are the amount of docs? | 11:31 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, ubuntu-docs etc. yeah | 11:32 |
| willvdl | I'll check minutes and mailing list. I jsut rememebr _something_ on the wiki | 11:32 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 11:32 |
| willvdl | I'm grappling with the seperation of "release docs" and "dynamic docs" | 11:33 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 11:33 |
| willvdl | meaning e.g. About Ubuntu is a release doc. | 11:33 |
| nixternal | mihakriket: both actually | 11:33 |
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| willvdl | it gets packaged and appears on CD, etc. | 11:34 |
| nixternal | we have more info on pbuilder than debian does in our system docs (packaging guide) and definitely our wiki | 11:34 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: what would be a dynamic doc? generally I would think of wiki pages as dynamic docs | 11:34 |
| willvdl | and then dynamic docs appear on the wiki (or pilfered from forum) | 11:34 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, yeah | 11:34 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: it depends, they have much better policy documentation. We have better "guides" | 11:35 |
| willvdl | but... some docs (or planned docs) are going to be dynamic | 11:35 |
| willvdl | for example Edubuntu School Advocacy: needs to reflect releases but is also going to be constantly updates as marketing material | 11:35 |
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| LaserJock | yep | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | I think you'll always have that to some degree | 11:36 |
| willvdl | so where does one keep it? | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | same place | 11:36 |
| willvdl | not on the wiki and the svn is too release specific | 11:36 |
| willvdl | so was wondering about bzr | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | we use svn for it | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm not sure that bzr has an advantage over svn in that regard exactly | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | it's more of the packaging and build structure | 11:37 |
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| willvdl | LaserJock, currently the svn contains ubuntu-doc | 11:37 |
| willvdl | which gets packaged and shipped | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | not all of it | 11:38 |
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| willvdl | good point | 11:38 |
| LaserJock | you could have both release and dynamic docs in there | 11:38 |
| LaserJock | you just branch and build for release docs | 11:38 |
| LaserJock | while the dynamic docs are just built as needed | 11:39 |
| willvdl | hmmm | 11:39 |
| LaserJock | bzr might give you a more flexibilty | 11:40 |
| willvdl | where would one put dynamic docs? in the trunk under seperate directory or seperate branch? | 11:40 |
| LaserJock | doesn't matter | 11:40 |
| willvdl | well, it's not really a branch per se | 11:41 |
| LaserJock | to build the release docs we have Makefiles, you just don't build/install the dynamic ones | 11:41 |
| LaserJock | for instance currently ESA isn't shipped | 11:41 |
| LaserJock | so it's a dynamic doc in that sense | 11:41 |
| willvdl | but it is built in the makefile | 11:41 |
| LaserJock | not in any package | 11:42 |
| LaserJock | so we build it for the website I believe | 11:42 |
| willvdl | aha | 11:42 |
| LaserJock | but it's not a release doc currently by your definition | 11:42 |
| willvdl | right | 11:43 |
| willvdl | even though ti uses the same makefile | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | so it's more about how you build them then where you put them | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | well, a single makefile can do many different things | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | more importantly in this case is the packaging | 11:44 |
| willvdl | okie. I need to read up on the reasoning behind bzr vs svn. imagine it's an interesting read | 11:44 |
| willvdl | I see your point | 11:44 |
| LaserJock | I think the bzr site has some interesting stuff | 11:44 |
| willvdl | who does the packaging? | 11:44 |
| LaserJock | well, generally mdke or I for ubunt-docs | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | mostl Riddell for kubuntu-docs | 11:45 |
| theCore | mihakriket: I think I'm done | 11:45 |
| willvdl | and where is it tracked what is packaged? | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | it's in the svn repo | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | under debian/ and kubuntu/debian/ | 11:46 |
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| willvdl | aha | 11:46 |
| willvdl | does https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+source/ubuntu-docs enter into it? | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | well, that is the source package that get's uploaded | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | it's a snapshot of the svn repo | 11:48 |
| mihakriket | theCore: good deal. What is the url? | 11:48 |
| theCore | mihakriket: I didn't uploaded yet | 11:48 |
| theCore | just a sec | 11:48 |
| willvdl | brill. LaserJock, thanks | 11:48 |
| LaserJock | we'll have an edubuntu-docs package soon enough | 11:49 |
| willvdl | cool. | 11:49 |
| mihakriket | theCore: Are you posting the document into the wiki? | 11:49 |
| LaserJock | we mostly just need to get enough content to replace ubuntu-docs | 11:50 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, it gets tricky when some of our docs are essentially marketing stuff | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | well, we can have release and dynamics docs side-by-side no problem | 11:50 |
| willvdl | how is the automatic inclusion of ubuntu-doc material (for sake of reducing duplication) going to work? | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | we won't | 11:51 |
| willvdl | by hand then at snapshot time | 11:51 |
| willvdl | until Topic-Based comes into effect | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | well, what I'm saying is the idea is to totally replace the ubuntu-docs with edubuntu-docs | 11:51 |
| theCore | mihakriket: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShellGlobbing | 11:51 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, so edubuntu-doc being only value-add info | 11:53 |
| LaserJock | edubuntu-doc being complete documentation for an Edubuntu system | 11:53 |
| LaserJock | i.e. ubuntu-doc won't be installed | 11:54 |
| willvdl | edubuntu being based on ubuntu, there is bound to be overlap of info | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | yep | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | but the idea was that the Edubuntu Handbook would be that | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | perhaps we will need to copy over the Ubuntu desktopguide I'm not sure | 11:55 |
| LaserJock | depends on how far along the handbook gets | 11:55 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, it is bound to go that way | 11:55 |
| willvdl | it is impractical for the handbook to cover edubuntu & base ubuntu info | 11:56 |
| willvdl | impractical for the authors | 11:56 |
| LaserJock | yeah, well ... | 11:56 |
| LaserJock | we could install ubuntu-docs as well | 11:57 |
| LaserJock | but then we start getting into space issues | 11:57 |
| willvdl | not necessarily install ubuntu-doc | 11:57 |
| willvdl | but at least pull sections | 11:58 |
| LaserJock | it'll be some work, but doable | 11:58 |
| willvdl | less work than rewriting | 11:58 |
| LaserJock | somebody needs to lead some effort there ;-) | 11:58 |
| willvdl | that's what I'm trying to do :) | 11:58 |
| willvdl | but need to understand the history etc. | 11:59 |
| LaserJock | I think pygi's original goal was to create a full-fledged Edubuntu book | 11:59 |
| LaserJock | that would go to a publisher | 11:59 |
| LaserJock | and be shipped as the complete Edubuntu documentation | 11:59 |
| theCore | mihakriket: the foo, bar examples should be changed to "real world" examples | 11:59 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, still the goal only we're going broader | 11:59 |
| willvdl | we want to target specific audiences with specific information | 12:00 |
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| LaserJock | ok, so I think it'd be a wise thing to do to use the doc team for the release docs and non-marketing stuff | 12:00 |
| willvdl | cbx33, jsut in time :) | 12:01 |
| LaserJock | and then set up a bzr repo tied to an LP team for the marketing stuff | 12:01 |
| willvdl | was my thinking | 12:01 |
| cbx33 | sounds good | 12:01 |
| mihakriket | theCore: Where do you upload your docs? I have been editing docs on the wiki. | 12:01 |
| cbx33 | was what we were thinking right willvdl ? | 12:01 |
| LaserJock | we've consistently had trouble getting Edubuntu people to contribute to the doc team | 12:01 |
| willvdl | one way is to continue authoring of handbook as original goal | 12:01 |
| willvdl | cbx33 yeah | 12:01 |
| theCore | mihakriket: ^^ | 12:01 |
| theCore | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShellGlobbing | 12:02 |
| willvdl | and then draw info from it for other purposes as needed. | 12:02 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, this way I hope to leverage more contribution from the marketing team | 12:02 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that would be good | 12:03 |
| willvdl | and don't want to dilute the doc team too much | 12:03 |
| willvdl | there is an edubuntu doc team | 12:03 |
| LaserJock | IMO, there shouldn't be | 12:03 |
| LaserJock | on LP anyway | 12:03 |
| mihakriket | theCore: I saw the doc, I mean how do people upload docs to the help.ubuntu.com site? | 12:03 |
| willvdl | exactly | 12:03 |
| theCore | mihakriket: just invent your own url | 12:03 |
| theCore | mihakriket: then, edit and post | 12:04 |
| willvdl | in effect it appears, but we miss the boat by seperating from it | 12:04 |
| LaserJock | the doc team has very good resources for documentation | 12:04 |
| willvdl | and many reviewers | 12:04 |
| LaserJock | and Edubuntu has kind of been the last team to get onboard | 12:04 |
| willvdl | so keep LP doc team | 12:05 |
| willvdl | with ubuntu-doc project | 12:05 |
| willvdl | and edubuntu-doc as another product | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure how it all works | 12:05 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | but the issue is less with LP and more with people | 12:06 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, spent an hour with salgado :) | 12:06 |
| LaserJock | with Kubuntu, the doc guys are a part of the doc team | 12:06 |
| willvdl | but it still needs to be tracked with minimum effort | 12:06 |
| cbx33 | totally | 12:07 |
| willvdl | so intelligent use of LP and wiki is key | 12:07 |
| LaserJock | we just need people working and joining the team, I really have had a hard time understanding why Edubuntu people seem to not get that | 12:07 |
| cbx33 | :( - I have to get off to bed now.... | 12:07 |
| cbx33 | up in about 6 hours | 12:07 |
| willvdl | cbx33, up in 5 hours :P | 12:08 |
| cbx33 | please please willvdl could you send me a quick mail about what we decide ;) | 12:08 |
| cbx33 | then I'll get it fleshed out for the summary page ;) | 12:08 |
| willvdl | cbx33, will do and check ubuntu-doc logs tomorrow | 12:08 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, technical docs are always tedious | 12:09 |
| willvdl | but I think we can curry favour on the marketing side | 12:09 |
| LaserJock | well, we get people and then nothing happens | 12:10 |
| LaserJock | that's been my issue | 12:10 |
| LaserJock | they need to be joining the doc team and getting involved | 12:10 |
| willvdl | well, our community is smaller | 12:10 |
| LaserJock | what I'm saying is don't think of it as edubuntu docs | 12:11 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, was suggesting to cbx33 an open letter - call for contributions to doc-team community | 12:11 |
| LaserJock | but as ubuntu doc people working on edubuntu | 12:11 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, that's been my take since the beginning | 12:11 |
| mihakriket | theCore: How do create a url? | 12:11 |
| LaserJock | I think that's what we've missed for a while | 12:11 |
| willvdl | I'm slowly populating the doc team wiki with edubuntu references | 12:11 |
| dsas | mihakriket: Just type it in your browsers address bar | 12:12 |
| willvdl | and eventually specs into LP | 12:12 |
| dsas | mihakriket: Or you can create a link using [:PageName: page name] syntax | 12:12 |
| LaserJock | what seems to happen is a few people get all excited but they just stay a closed little team | 12:12 |
| cbx33 | nn | 12:12 |
| cbx33 | see ya willvdl and LaserJock | 12:12 |
| willvdl | nn | 12:13 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, I'm here to try and track/manage that. | 12:14 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 12:14 |
| LaserJock | I'm glad you're here :-) | 12:14 |
| willvdl | won't have time to author much unfortunately | 12:14 |
| willvdl | which I'd like since I've done a looot of that in the past | 12:14 |
| LaserJock | I guess what I'm saying is that the biggest problem from my standpoint is not a technological one, but a social one | 12:14 |
| willvdl | I hear you | 12:15 |
| LaserJock | we have everything in place for an edubuntu doc team | 12:15 |
| LaserJock | we just need people to join and work | 12:15 |
| LaserJock | instead of wandering off trying to reinvent the wheel | 12:15 |
| willvdl | well, lemme look deeper at LP, maybe we can keep the edubuntu doc SUB-team | 12:16 |
| LaserJock | so I think if you can push people toward the doc team | 12:16 |
| LaserJock | perhaps | 12:16 |
| willvdl | and move subscriptions up | 12:16 |
| LaserJock | but you can do the whole thing without LP if you want | 12:16 |
| willvdl | actually, nah, still makes no sense | 12:16 |
| LaserJock | I think the an edubuntu-marketing team might be better to house the marketing stuff | 12:17 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, LP works nicely for bugs, reviewing, proofing etc. | 12:17 |
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