[12:51] g'night all === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.198] has joined #edubuntu === blue-phuz [n=blue-phu@cpe-24-166-3-166.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:07] hello all [01:07] can get some help with a gfx card [01:08] hmm, you might want to try #ubuntu actually [01:08] there are a lot more people there [01:10] ya no one will respond to me [01:10] i know its some thing ssiple but i havent a clue [01:10] simple* [01:13] what's the problem? [01:14] when i goto change resolution the screen corrupts and the systm locks up [01:14] ok, and how are you changing the resolution? [01:14] it looks like when a lcd is cracked with all the lines [01:15] any way === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === globe [n=root@69.39.5.163] has joined #edubuntu [02:06] does anybody know of a good guide to setting up ltsp? I have edubuntu installed and thats about as far as i've gotten.... [02:13] http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp.html ? [02:13] hmm...thx. I'll take a look === globe is now known as globe_switch === globe [n=robert@host-72-174-196-231.dur-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:20] Heya [02:25] hello. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === globe is now known as globe_bbiab === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === toosa [n=toosa@202.73.108.83] has joined #edubuntu === Phoenix7477 [n=matt@75.153.211.50] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [06:51] hey LaserJock [06:54] hi cbx33 [06:54] phew this is early ;) [06:55] yeah === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.21.97] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:54] hi corey === Burgundavia__ [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia__ is now known as Burgundavia === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-241-54-102.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [09:06] highvoltage, hey [09:09] hi willvdl ] [09:10] willvdl: note that quite a few of your posts ge held back from the lists because you post from a different address to the one you subscribed from [09:10] hi RichEd === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [09:10] RichEd, I know :| [09:10] can you add me as a moderator? [09:10] the easiest thing to do is to subscribe as all the addresses you might mail from, and then select "no emails" from all but one [09:11] hi willvdl , RichEd [09:11] aha. didn't think of that [09:11] Kamping_Kaiser, hey [09:11] :) [09:11] I've been cleaning out the moderator backlog from users ... will keep it up to date now [09:11] hey Kamping_Kaiser ... hows things ? [09:11] good news is we're making headway on doc planning [09:12] RichEd, busy :|, i havent had a chance to un[tar,zip] the thing we talked about last time [09:13] Great. I was following your discussion yesterday. Things like "What is the difference between release notes and about" are significant ... we need a list of docs and what they do ... targetted, focused, and procedures for updates. Looks like you have the ball rolling. [09:13] Thanks. [09:13] Kamping_Kaiser: no worries ... when you have some time. === Kamping_Kaiser will try and collect the stuff at work tomorrow === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:29] ah, 2.0 is out === Kamping_Kaiser wgets [09:35] cbx33, just got LP rights. time for some updates :] [09:39] hey willvdl [09:40] highvoltage, been having some very interesting doc-team discussions [09:40] am looking for your input if possible [09:42] willvdl: nice [09:42] I'm here [09:42] just shout when you need me [09:42] hmmm, was a premature but not a problem [09:44] check http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-doc-2006-12-12.html from 11:30 [09:45] and http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-doc-current.html till 12:50 [09:47] willvdl: anything in particular you'd want me to look at? I'll read through a bit later, there's a lot going on here atm [09:47] whew. trying to write up some thoughts on wiki. probably best way. will point you to it [09:48] excellent job willvdl [09:48] so we're going with svn? [09:49] yeah. guess so. six of one... [09:49] you got access? [09:50] give some thought on how to use branches vs sub-directories for non-release docs [09:51] yes I will [09:51] LaserJock is going to get my access [09:53] so that shouldn't be a problem [09:53] cool [10:02] https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-advocacy <-- is this still valid? Can we rather integrate it into marketing team? [10:03] willvdl: yes [10:03] willvdl: it can be integrated into marketing [10:04] highvoltage, do you think we are likely to justify an edubuntu-doc package anytime soon? === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl notices there isn't even a kubuntu-doc package [10:04] nixternal, morning [10:04] willvdl: if there's documentation to put into it, then yes. :) [10:05] :) [10:05] good answer [10:05] willvdl: with the last release we had a edubuntu-doc package that contained modified content from the tuxlab technical and software modules [10:05] ah. didn't notice that [10:07] willvdl: sorry, not last release, dapper release, I meant [10:27] trying to decide what to do with https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation [10:27] I imagine it is basically taken care of in current ubuntu-doc? [10:30] hmmm [10:30] EdubuntuDocumentation has a lot of other stuff in it [10:30] but most of it now has been superseeced [10:30] apart from a few docs ;) [10:30] it's mainly handbook docs.....berfore handbook was awritten [10:31] is nixternal around? [10:31] I want to use it as a landing page for Edubuntu Doc Team so maybe I'll jsut move the current links down [10:32] ok do it [10:32] or dcall the page [10:32] EdubuntuDoc [10:32] or EdubuntuDocTeam [10:36] dcall? [10:37] dcall? [10:42] [11:32] or dcall the page [10:43] yeh ...... I'm slow this morning dcall? [10:49] heh [10:50] highvoltage, how do I change "Details" in https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-doc [10:57] are you owner of the team ;) === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:05] cbx33, no, only administrator [11:06] starting on https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation which should eventually redirect to /DocumentationTeam (somewhere in a subpage like kubuntu) === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === juliux_ [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === juliux_ is now known as juliux === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AEEB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.23.161] has joined #edubuntu === barktpolar [i=ulrich@64-48-208-9.phi-02.cvx.algx.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:31] Question: Is there a aLive CD Version of Edubuntu 6.06 or must you install it? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [12:32] there is a live versino [12:33] K, cause when I got my Shipit CDs yesterday, there was only a installing option [12:33] hmmm [12:34] ahhh [12:34] edubuntu does not have a livecd, i thought [12:34] oh [12:34] doesn't it? [12:34] we just have an installer cd [12:34] we did have in dapper I'm sure [12:34] oh maybe not on shipit [12:34] there might be one but it's not a combined one with ubiquity like ubuntu [12:34] Amaranth, i am sure that there is also a livecd [12:35] Amaranth, and you can install from the live cd but with out ltsp;) [12:35] ah, that's what it was [12:35] there is an ubiquity one === Amaranth gets confused [12:35] cos I filed several bugs on it [12:35] all i have is the edgy shipit cd [12:35] Amaranth, all the server packages are not on the live cd [12:35] Wait, Distribute Edgy CDs [12:36] and ogra once told me edubuntu did not use the combined live/install thing [12:36] http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/edubuntu/6.06.1/ [12:36] Amaranth, that is right [12:36] That is teh version I have [12:36] Amaranth, but there is a livecd but you cann't install a edubuntu server from the live cd [12:36] the cd....at boot up [12:37] Amaranth, that is why the live cd is call live cd and not desktop cd [12:37] says start Or install [12:37] I'm pretty sure [12:37] ubuntu has desktop and alternate edubuntu has live and install [12:37] http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/edubuntu/6.10/ [12:37] there is a live and a install cd image;) === jinty [n=jinty@172.Red-83-36-43.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:39] Well, right now, I'm more focused on building up my Linux Collection and Edubuntu was one of the parts [12:39] excellent [12:40] Curennt, I have Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu 6.06 [12:40] and working on Xubuntu 6.06 [12:48] cbx33, id didn't get far but have a look at https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation [12:48] (completely wrong place for it but I was pushed for time) [12:50] ==== edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting ===== 10 mins === [12:50] crikey it is an all isn't it === ogra_ is now known as ogra [12:56] willvdl: cool [12:56] brb for meeting [12:56] hi RichEd [12:56] hi juliux [12:58] how's dresden ? getting cold yet ? [12:59] RichEd, a little bit, very cold wind today but +7 degree [12:59] RichEd, i don't need my winter cloth [01:00] I'm at 25 today. Shorts & T-shirt & still hot in my office. [01:00] ==== edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting ===== now ! === [01:00] RichEd, hehe [01:00] RichEd, last year we had 20cm snow in december === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.23.161] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=co@po-dhcp2.ping.uio.no] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@dhcp01.hsz-t.ch] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === PeBe [n=sysadmin@hedmark-static12.bluecom.no] has joined #edubuntu === pitux_ [n=pitux@113-28-118.adsl.cust.tie.cl] has joined #edubuntu === PeBe [n=Per@hedmark-static12.bluecom.no] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=simon@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu [03:02] :) === willvdl brain hurt === Kamping_Kaiser eyes hurt === pips1 [n=philipp@dhcp01.hsz-t.ch] has joined #edubuntu [03:09] willvdl: ping === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [03:21] gnight all [03:28] night Kamping_Kaiser [03:28] hi rodarvus [03:29] rodarvus: Can we meet tomorrow for 30 mins ... what time would work for you ? [03:30] sure, what time do you prefer? [03:34] cbx33, have you seen https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pessulus/+bug/44802 ? === pirast [n=martin@p508B28DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] ogra, ping [04:03] where's ogra? :-/ === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:05] Heya [04:05] hey [04:06] pirast, sorry, very busy ... i saw your bugfix to klogic ... [04:07] ogra, great :-) [04:07] ogra, what are you doing all the time? ;-) [04:08] currently carting for ltsp bugs, main inclusion of new packages etc ... [04:08] then building the edubuntu-auth-server and testing it ... etc etc ... [04:08] implementing all listzed specs from https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs ... [04:09] argh ;-) [04:09] hehe, I have holidays in a few days :-P [04:10] me too (not that i would do anything different to a workday though :P) [04:10] btw, if you still remember me, I spoke with a teacher and he sayd that we could move one lab to linux.. I do not know if he really does but I am currently preparing my laptop to present it :-) [04:11] do you know any howtos on mounting samba shares as home directorys and authentification against windows servers? [04:11] ogra, hehe [04:12] auth should hopefully work with ldap [04:16] hi pirast [04:16] hi juliux === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [04:22] Morning all [04:24] hey [04:24] hey sbalneav [04:25] Hello pips1 === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has left #edubuntu ["No] [04:26] scottie !!! === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:29] ogra: yes I saw that bug [04:29] but it's a pessulus/gconf thing. [04:30] yep [04:30] I'll have to look into it I suppose, I don;t think vuntz is working on pessulus much anymore [04:31] i was just wondering if its related to your patch [04:31] i don;t think so [04:32] good mornin' [04:32] holy cow, 9:32, I thought it was 7:30 [04:33] hey nixternal [04:33] whats up cbx33 [04:34] oh i don't even want to look at email this morning [04:35] I wanted you for something earlier now I can't remember what it was [04:46] ogra https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pessulus/+bug/44802 that was bugged before i started playing with pessulus [04:46] ;) [04:46] ah [04:46] phew === dfwlinuxguy [n=james@70.255.231.189] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEF1F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [06:07] ping ogra [06:09] Think he's having dinner [06:11] ah [06:11] sbalneav, it's to early for dinner;) [06:11] Not in Germany [06:12] sbalneav, we have no 18:00 [06:12] it is a early dinner,) [06:12] 18:00 [06:12] 's 6:00! Man, that's time for dinner! [06:13] for me not;) [06:13] I like to eat at least 5 hours before I go to bed, otherwise sometimes I get heartburn :) [06:14] hehe === dfwlinuxguy [n=james@70.255.231.189] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:52] awwww [06:56] ping RichEd [06:58] highvoltage, where is edubuntugirl these days? [06:59] bbl [07:21] http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2006/12/in_praise_of_edubuntu.html [07:24] hi again! [07:25] i have a question to the thin client booting from network... what if there are two dhcp servers in the network.. one the dhcp server of server1 and one the edubuntu dhcp server? [07:25] from which one does the client boot then? [07:25] can i specify this somehow? [07:27] Burgwork, w00t [07:27] you can't have two dhcp servers pirast [07:28] cbx33, so no chance? :-( [07:28] well [07:28] because there is a windows server in the network.. [07:28] what server is the dhcp serveR? [07:28] is it windows based? [07:28] ;) [07:28] yeah :-( [07:28] hang on two secs ;) [07:28] no smile there is a way [07:28] k, thanks [07:28] I made sure of it [07:29] ;) [07:29] I have a windows dhcp server [07:29] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP# [07:29] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP [07:29] some of the deatils may need to be changed slighty [07:29] i will have a look.. [07:29] thanks [07:29] but that you can pick up from the configuration file for the edubuntu dhcp server [07:30] it works trust me;) [07:30] wow! [07:31] many thanks I love you man :-) [07:31] no problem [07:31] oh you may like this too [07:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPMultiboot [07:33] looks great, also :- [07:33] :-) [07:33] ping nixternal [07:33] yo yo [07:34] take a look at those last two links [07:34] I should have put them in the handbook [07:34] what do you think? [07:34] if there isn't already data on them [07:34] hrmm.i know sbalneav was working on the LTSP part, it might be better to ask him on that one [07:35] ping sbalneav [07:35] time to roll out..i will bbiab === Ubug2 [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [07:44] hi Edubuntu people [07:44] hey LaserJock [07:44] need to tal to you [07:44] but going out [07:44] back alter [07:44] later === cbx33 [n=542de178@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:01] ping sbalneav LaserJock ogra [08:05] bbl [08:05] heh [08:20] hmm, interesting === StephenL [n=steve@216.62.85.65] has joined #edubuntu [08:25] How can I turn off or uninstall terminal services from edubuntu? [08:26] you want to prevent users from using a terminal? [08:26] or from using LTSP [08:29] LTSP [08:29] you should be able to just turn on off the dhcp server [08:30] Simplest would be just to turn off the dhcp server [08:30] heh [08:30] I want to disable it in X though. [08:30] you could simply uninstall it [08:31] StephenL: just issue this command "update-rc.d -f dhcp3-server remove [08:32] or, more accurately: [08:33] sudo update-rc.d -f dhcp3-server remove [08:33] The dhcp server isn't what I'm worried about. I have software that works fine in ubuntu, but in edubuntu it won't work. It's something to do with how X listens with connections I believe. [08:35] No, theres no difference in X between edubuntu and ubuntu. [08:35] What's the software? Maybe you're just missing a library? [08:37] It's the software for this: http://www.ncomputing.com/ncomputing/products/direct.php === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@ppp138-80.lns3.mel6.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:39] ncomputing is not LTSP, but some sort of properitary product [08:39] Right. [08:39] I need it to work and LTSP not to work. [08:40] So, you say it works on ubuntu, but not edubuntu? [08:40] So, why not use ubuntu? :) [08:40] Yes, it worked fine in ubuntu. [08:40] All edubuntu is is ubuntu + ltsp + educational apps. [08:41] Yeah, I know. It's easier to do an apt-get install edubuntu-desktop than to install all the apps individually. [08:41] You don't want the ltsp, so just use ubuntu, and if you need some of the educational apps, just install them with synaptic. [08:41] I don't really want to reinstall I just want to get rid of the ltsp part. [08:42] thats easy. [08:42] rm -rf /opt/ltsp [08:42] ltsp gone. [08:42] odd, i have not /opt/ltsp [08:43] s/not/no [08:43] Did you start with a ubuntu box and add the edubuntu desktop? [08:43] Yes. [08:43] Then you don't even have ltsp installed. [08:43] ltsp only gets installed when you install from the cd [08:44] installing edubuntu desktop doesn't get you the ltsp build, unless you run ltsp-build-client. [08:44] So, ltsp isn't your problem. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [08:47] /usr/sbin/gdm --config=/etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf [08:47] Where is the config file that's telling gdm to use that config? [08:48] what is cdd? [08:48] /etc/init.d/gdm [08:49] That'll be part of the flexiserver "switch user" functionality. [08:49] That's the same as in stock ubuntu, I beleive. [08:50] I don't have a gdm-cdd.conf on my ubuntu box. [08:51] what are the reasons for edubuntu using the -386 kernel instead of the -generic one? [08:51] From the /etc/init.d/gdm script: [08:51] # Allow cdd to override the config [08:51] if [ -f /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf ] ; then [08:51] CONFIG_FILE="--config=/etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf" [08:51] fi [08:51] yeah I see that [08:51] if you're seeing that, you should have it. [08:51] gdm-cdd.conf is a symlink pointing to /etc/alternatives/gdm-config-derivative [08:51] Ubuntu does not have that symlink [08:52] pirast: I don't think there was a decision to use -386 over -generic [08:52] LaserJock, mhm because I just installed Edubuntu and it uses the 386 one by default.. [08:52] on edubuntu, it points to: [08:52] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2006-10-24 09:06 /etc/alternatives/gdm-config-derivative -> /usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf [08:53] so, just remove the link, and everything should be normal. [08:53] pirast: there were bugs I think [08:53] that's what I'm trying now... [08:53] LaserJock, okay.. thanks [08:53] pirast: I don't think it was edubuntu specific though [08:53] then invoke-rc.d gdm restart [08:53] pirast: but perhaps [08:53] which will kick you out of your X session, BTW [08:54] I'm ssh'd to the box in another location [08:54] I just rebooted it. [08:54] meh, shouldn't EVER need to reboot a linux box :) [08:54] just restarting the service should be fine. [08:54] unless you're testing the kernel [08:55] Well, ok, got me there. [08:55] I agree, but not sitting in front of the box I would just rather have it reboot. [08:55] and sometimes vmware/qemu doesn't cut it ;-) [08:57] Well, I gotta get going in a couple of minutes and drop off YET ANOTHER database server to our developer. Apparently the $40,000 worth of hardware of ours sitting out at their site isn't sufficient, and they need ANOTHER $7,000 box. [08:57] grmbl [08:58] I'll be on later. [08:58] cya all. === cbx33 [n=542de178@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:01] ping ogra [09:01] ping LaserJock [09:05] hi [09:06] Dude i need help [09:07] uh oh [09:07] hang on === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.92] has joined #edubuntu === StephenL [n=steve@216.62.85.65] has left #edubuntu [] [09:49] my dhcpd is up and running but other pcs can't connect to it via dhcp.. [09:50] is there another dhcp server around? [09:50] no, only one :-( [09:50] hmm, I don't know [09:50] the pcs are connected directly.. [09:50] mhm [09:50] and when i run "dhclient eth1" on the server, it does not work either [09:51] (i did it before by mistake and it worked) [09:51] then i restored my network settings because they were shot === Ubug2 is now known as Ubugtu [10:05] okay.. problem solved [10:05] i though that the cable would not be crossed, but it was [10:05] or the other way :-) === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #edubuntu [10:21] i now get tftp error 1 (file not found).. any idea what's wrong? [10:47] solved, too.. had to add i386 === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@dyn-83-153-175-94.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu