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fignewok12:14
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php-freak_fignew: now what should we do?12:14
delphinehello :)12:14
fignewtry cat /dev/zero > /dev/dsp12:14
fignewnotice the zero12:14
fignewshould be alittle bit louder12:15
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php-freak_yes did it12:15
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php-freak_don't hear anything12:15
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fignewthe problem is I'm doing the /dev/random and dev/zero and I can barely hear them on my headphones12:15
bgsteffensHow do i restart KDE please?12:15
graftare your speakers on, php-freak?12:15
fignewand these are really good headphones12:15
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php-freak_fignew: well i don't hear anything i put my ear up to the speaker12:16
graftbgsteffens: ctrl-alt-backspace is the cheap way to do it, or else you can do it from the kmenu (logout)12:16
graftbgsteffens: or you can do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart12:16
bgsteffensok ty :)12:16
fignewLOL!12:17
fignewmy laptop has the same soundcard12:17
WeamHi everyone, i installed kubuntu 6.06 some day ago, all went fine. Tho im getting problems with GRUB, it hangs at Loading Stage 1.5 / Hard Disk Error, and i've found out it has something to do with my S-ATA disk.. i googled some and found out i need to update my BIOS to make it work, tho i already had the latest so thats screwed.12:17
WeamA guy help me install LILO instead of GRUB but i got some Fatal error cuz of raid (?) tho im not using any raid, but i guess my S-ATA controller identifys it as a raiddisk. Is there any way of making it work? Any known solutions?12:17
WeamHere is a guy with the same problem, also the same motherboard as me: http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub%40gnu.org/msg10559.html12:17
php-freak_fignew? are you serious12:17
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Weamapart from him tho i only got one s-ata disk and uses the whole thing for linux so no dualboot etc12:17
php-freak_fignew: is your working?12:18
fignewyes, and, my speakers don't work either... HOWEVER, when you plug in headphones, they work12:18
php-freak_hmm12:18
php-freak_lol what should we do I have a gateway laptop12:18
fignewMine is a sharp :P12:18
fignewI like it, (laptop doesn't make sound in class!)12:18
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fignewWeam: Try disabling the RAID in the BIOS12:19
fignewthere should be an option to disable the RAID firmware12:20
fignewphp-freak_: have you tested the headphones?12:20
php-freak_i don't have none12:20
fignew!!!12:20
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Weamfignew aight, ill try that12:20
php-freak_fignew: what about that device i disabled?12:21
verzonnenmewshi: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server12:21
php-freak_or that said it was busy?12:21
fignewartsd is the KDE sound system12:21
fignewsometimes it gets in the way12:21
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php-freak_i see12:21
fignewbut it'll start right back up12:21
php-freak_hmm see how i can get this working12:21
graftartsd should never be used12:21
fignewgraft: why?12:21
fignewit's normally enabled by default12:22
lupine_85artsd isn't much use12:22
graftbecause the sound quality is bad, it has high CPU usage, everything that uses it can talk to ALSA directly, etc.12:22
fignewI don't mind it12:22
graftand everyone should have ALSA dmix plugins these days, so you don't even need it for software mixin12:22
mewshisudo smbpasswd -a system_username <- do i type this in exactly?12:22
php-freak_boom12:22
php-freak_its fucking working12:23
php-freak_headphones, and speakers12:23
fignewnow?12:23
php-freak_yes12:23
BluesKaj!language12:23
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:23
fignew:P12:23
fignewthat's funny12:23
verzonnenmewshi: I guess you nneed ti change the system_username12:23
php-freak_disable the external amp12:23
fignewunder alsamix?12:23
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php-freak_no12:23
php-freak_kmix12:23
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fignew:P12:24
php-freak_working?12:24
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fignewthat's why you sould always fiddle with the settings :P12:24
fignewI'll try that on my laptop12:24
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Weamfignew; I can't do any settings in VIA SATA IDE RAID-menu (controller-device) and the only option I got in bios is to have it enabled or disabled12:25
fignewaww, I dont have that option12:25
Weamand ofc if i disable S-ATA controller my disk wont work12:25
fignewyou've tried to disable it?12:25
Weamye, just did to be on the safe side12:25
php-freak_fignew: you talking to me12:25
fignewcould it be that the drives are plugged into the RAID SATA plugs on the motherboard?12:26
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fignewphp-freak_: no, weam12:26
kkathmanphp-freak_:  many of the things about which you have inquired, are in settings or discussed in the wiki.  Also several ubuntu/kubuntu forums exist on line for your utilization. Those might be good sources to go to before asking in the channel :)12:26
gemidjyhow to downgrade libhal1 libhal-storage1 automaticly?12:26
fignewkkathman: seemed like a good question to me...?12:26
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Weamhm, nah i mean. i followed the motherboard manual about setting up a S-ATA disk and its in the only plug i can plug it in (yeye good english), anyway at the motherboard its plugged in at SATA 112:27
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fignewwhat type of mobo?12:27
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Weamhttp://www.epox.nl/products/view.php?product_id=34512:28
marshcasthey guys... I'm having problems with this new 'autoremove' function in apt-get12:28
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marshcastcan anyone help me? as I understand it it should remove all dependencies that aren't used.12:29
fignewnot automatically12:29
kkathmanhehe12:29
fignewhmm Weam...12:29
fignewmarshcast: it just tells you if they exist12:30
kkathmannot much is automatic - however, aptitude tries to remove package-specific dependencies12:30
fignewwhen you run an apt-get command12:30
Weamthe problem i got is pretty rare as i understand, fdoving tried to help me, tried installing LILO and a bunch of other things. didnt work tho :<12:30
marshcastKDE loads up loads of things I dont want - lets start, for instance , with bluetooth. I dont want any bluetooth, but how do I remove all those bluetooth libraries etc? do I have to go through it all by hand  to remove them? shouldn't autoremove do it for me? it doesn't seem top wortk for me. or am i missing something here?12:31
BluesKaj"autoremove" can also do damage , if yer not careful12:31
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jontecooh... I have fcgid... and I didn't even know it12:31
fignewWeam: I'm still brainstorming on a possible solution12:31
marshcastso how do I go about setting up a secure and fast system with kde?12:31
marshcastis it possible?12:31
Weamaight12:32
kkathmanmarshcast:  some of those are kernel module that you'll need to remove that way I reckon12:32
marshcastif I try to remove anything at all with adept it seems to remove the whole of kde?!?!12:32
fignewmarshcast: hold on12:32
marshcastkkathman: all of them? if I try to autoremove kdebluetooth then it just removes that 1 app.12:33
fignewK-menu --> System Settings --> advanced12:33
marshcastwith you, fignew12:34
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fignewSystem Services to remove non-kde related stuff12:34
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kkathmanmarshcast:  there are modules that are loaded during boot, you'll need to change that....I did this once or twice, but its been a while..so I dont want to tell you wrong12:35
fignewand service manager to remove KDE related stuff12:35
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racarr!pastebin12:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:36
fignewWeam: so GRUB has been totally removed?12:36
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Weamnope, grub is still the loader, fdoving said that LILO should have higher prio tho when it gets an error GRUB loads instead12:37
Weamsomething like that12:37
Weamanyway12:37
Weamstill got GRUB as loader12:37
Weamand its still "GRUB Hard Disk Error"12:37
marshcastfignew - this doesn't seem to let me remove them & all the piles of (what is in effect if i dont use it) rubbish that goes with them. my system is still full of unused stuff. do I just have to out up with that in kde?12:37
fignewWeam: because even if there is a RAID controller without a RAID, it should still boot12:38
marshcastthat would make it a bit of a dinosaur12:38
marshcast:(12:38
fignewunder what... Service manager?12:39
fignewWeam: will memtest86 boot?12:39
marshcastsystem services12:39
Weamis that embedded with kubuntu or do i need to boot memtest with floppy etc?12:39
fignewit should be an option under GRUB12:40
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eilker!sls12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:40
fignewmarshcast: did you click administrator mode in the bottom right?12:40
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Weamhm no, it dont load if so. all i get when i trying to boot my computer i get "GRUB Loading Stage 1.5" followed by "GRUB Hard Disk Error" and then it freezes12:40
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fignewremember, marshcast, be careful with the system services, without certain things, the system may break12:41
fignewWeam: you selected Memtest?12:41
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marshcastfignew - I cant remove anything from systemservices though.12:42
fignewdid you click administrator mode in the bottom right?12:42
ncallerWhat package should I install to get the source code to /bin/ping ?  I haven't had luck looking12:42
marshcastI want shot of all bluetooth related apps. can I do this without searching out all apps and dependencies by hand one at a time?12:43
Weamfignew, im sorry. i havent been having these kind of problems before when trying out linux so, how do i do that? (im a total grubnoob)12:43
fignewpress escape12:43
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fignewwhen GRUB first pops up12:43
marshcastand yes - admin mode. but can only start/stop/restart deamons12:43
Weamaight12:44
fignewncaller: iputils-ping12:44
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fignewmarshcast: what do you have against BT?12:45
fignew:P12:45
ncallerit says I already have that package, but I don't see the source for it under /usr/src12:45
fignewmarshcast: you can edit the /etc/init.d/ files12:45
fignew1 sec ncaller12:45
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marshcastBT??12:45
kkathmanfignew:  I looked in my processes and bluetooth isnt running on my system12:45
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kkathmanso maybe he actually specifically installed??12:46
DekKeDany idea how to edit an IMG file?12:46
Weamfignew; im spamming escape-button but i dont got time before it says hard disk error12:46
Weamtried several times now12:46
Weam>.<12:46
marshcastfignew - don't think i have anything against anything (unless it's corporate - then I do tend to get a bit asrsey...)12:46
fignewwait, you want it to run?12:46
fignewBluetooth that is?12:47
fignewhmm12:47
fignewWeam: 1 sec12:47
jpiccolohas anyone seen the ADAPTEC 2610SA12:47
marshcastkkathman: me? i didn't install - but it's there - i dont want it on the machine as I'm never going to use it...also - btooth is just an example - i want to strip the system of all unused services/apps AND all their deps12:47
fignewncaller: apt-get source iputils-ping12:48
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fignewmarshcast: Debian is best for doing that12:48
marshcastwhich is why the adept thing with 'remove one, remove all' seems a bit odd12:48
kkathmanmarshcast:  As I said earlier, each of those are in one of the boot directories. You just need to find which ones you want to get rid of  and move them elsewhere I reckon12:49
marshcastfignew: Hhhmmm.. but i a bit noob for Debian12:49
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fignewagreed with kkathman, look in  /etc/init.d12:49
marshcastkkathman: that's the only way - - seems dangerous :/12:49
marshcastfignew: kkathman, and deosn't get shot of the libraries/apps from my hdd :( - that mean it's not possible except by hand?12:50
kkathmanahhh thats the directory...thanx fignew :)12:50
fignewyes, but if you're careful, you won't have problems... but if you do, boot up with a liveCD, mount the HD, and fix what you messed up...12:50
kkathmanI had forgotten12:50
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fignewmarshcast: the files will still be there, they just won't be run at bootup12:51
fignewso all the BT stuff will still be taking up space12:51
fignewbut boottimes will be faster12:51
kkathmanmarshcast:  it takes a little leg work to work through each of the modules to know which one does what, but then you simply remove that one from the directory, then the boot process doesnt process it.. its quite safe, unless you remove something you didnt want to...all you need to do is put it back tho12:52
fignewWeam: Looks like it's failing before it ever gets to the point I'm thinking of12:52
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marshcastHhhhmmm... was trying to get the machine sorted quick to have minimal access to things and get it into someone elses  house with just browser/openoffice & amarok. that's not going to happen with kde, is it...?12:52
Weamyup, seems so12:52
fignewWeam: you have a few options though, you could setup grub to boot from a floppy12:52
fignewor thumbdrive (assuming the BIOS supports USB booting)12:52
Weamhm12:53
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fignewmarshcast: try Xubuntu12:53
fignewstill very easy to use12:53
ncallerfignew: I had to install dpkg-dev as well, but that worked, awesome and thanks12:53
fignew:)12:54
Weamhow do u mean with floppy? that i should dl like an BOOT-floppydisk for kubuntu or something? do i need it every time then etc?12:54
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fignewyes, you would need it everytime12:54
marshcastyeah - i just come from Xubuntu. wanted to make it easy for them to use, which kde offers in a greater degree for noobs...12:55
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marshcastbut that could be the answer, eh12:55
fignewkeep everything then12:56
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fignewjust imagine if they bought a Bluetooth adaptor for their phone and it didn't work!12:56
Weamthink i got a floppy laying around somewhere. is it hard setting up grub to boot on it if i would choose to do it like this?12:56
fignewWeam: never done it12:56
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Weam:<12:56
fignewI know you can do it though12:56
fignewthere's an app called grub-floppy12:57
fignewprob. makes it pretty easy!12:57
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RealisticDragonnow thats a name that didnt get thought through :)12:57
fignew:P12:57
Weamguess its time to google some to check it out12:57
vadoRe12:57
fignewWeam: I would prob. reinstall Kubuntu12:57
RealisticDragonis there a kubuntu ppc (or powerbook) channel on freenode? :o12:58
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Weami've reinstalled kubuntu 6.10 twice, thought it was something wrong with the iso so burned and installed kubuntu 6.06 three times12:58
Weamsame error every time12:58
Weameven followed a pictureguide12:58
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Weamtho its not hard at all installing kubuntu12:58
Weami did it to be sure12:59
Weamso it has nothing to do with kubuntu-install12:59
fignewno12:59
RealisticDragonwhat was the error Weam? :o12:59
fignewjust reinstall because you messed with lilo12:59
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Weamoh12:59
Weamye12:59
Weambut still, need to figure out the grub-floppy thing first12:59
fignewRealisticDragon: http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub%40gnu.org/msg10559.html12:59
fignewthat pretty much sums it up :P01:00
Weamyup, kinda01:00
RealisticDragonwoo, thats fun :)01:00
fignewBIOS RAID conflicting with GRUB, no off switch for RAID = trouble01:01
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fignewstrange thing though is I had BIOS RAID turned on on (whee) my home computer... no problems01:02
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RealisticDragonthe strangest things can mess stuff up01:02
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RealisticDragonmy powerbook does suspend/resume on lid close *perfectly*... as long as it's connected to a WPA network... WEP kills it dead one time in 20... god knows whats the root cause of that01:03
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fignewyou can fix that01:04
RealisticDragonscript to unload the wireless driver on suspend?01:04
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fignewyes01:05
fignewbut start with simple01:05
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RealisticDragonsimple?01:06
fignewdo you have knetworkmanager installed?01:06
RealisticDragonyes but it doesnt work for PPC, i need to use wifi-radar (at best, or CLI) for WEP and cli for WPA stuff01:06
fignewDOH!01:07
RealisticDragonits a broadcom airport card, bcm43xx drivers01:07
RealisticDragonhey, at least it works :D its a disctinct improvement01:07
oslodoes someone here has already success to use gmailfs ??01:08
RealisticDragonnot tried it :) sounds interesting though, got a link?01:09
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fignewRealisticDragon: have you looked under /etc/network/01:10
fignew?01:10
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RealisticDragonah ha, interesting - the pre-down.d (etc) stuff?01:11
RealisticDragonthat would probably work nicely01:11
RealisticDragondoes suspend automatically up/down the interface? or will i need a "disconnect from network" link on the desktop01:11
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fignewI have written a little script that connects/disconnects me from my school network01:15
ingoay01:16
fignewwith a link on my 'top01:16
fignewso let's see here01:16
RealisticDragonifdown eth1 && modprobe -r bcm43xx01:16
RealisticDragon:)01:16
fignewbringing it up though is a bit more work01:17
fignewat least for me :P01:17
RealisticDragonheh01:17
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RealisticDragonmostly a pest with changing networks01:17
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fignewHidden network, WEP (no big deal, right?... wrong: thousands of MAC addresses), and a login captive portal.01:17
eilkerhow can i define a shortcut, to not write "sudo apt-get install" evertime ? is it possible ?01:18
RealisticDragoni should probably cache some information about the network and then check on resume with iwlist eth1 scan to see whats present before bringing the network back conditionally01:18
ingoeilker: alias01:18
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eilker!alias01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
ingodefine it in your bashrc01:18
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eilkeringo: bashrc? u mean shell scripting ?01:18
fignewalias ls='ls --color=auto' <--- Enabled by default01:18
LjLeilker, alias is a shell command. type "help alias"01:19
chupiei got one of those free kubuntu cd's, popped it in the cdrom drive.. and when it goes to boot, i get a kernel panic..01:19
chupieits version 6.06 LTS 64bit01:19
RealisticDragondoesnt knetworkmanager handle that for you fignew? otherwise nm-applet will work in kde if you need it badly, or wifi-radar (which is a bit less elegant)01:19
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RealisticDragonchupie: how old is your machine?01:20
fignewRealisticDragon: it would (and I wish it did) except, I would have to add each AP's mac address01:20
sithergeanus01:20
chupieabout a year01:20
RealisticDragondo you know what kind of processor it has? you might just need a different version of the disk01:20
fignewit aliases the WEP key with the AP's mac address (not SSID)01:21
chupieits a Athlon 64 3000+01:21
fignewwhat happens right before the kernel panic?01:21
RealisticDragonsorry chupie, thought id start with the obvious ;) theres nothing wrong with that01:21
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chupiewell its right at the boot screen, asking me what i want to do, i choose start.. and then it goes to load the kernel.. and then i get a screen full of crap i have no idea what it is.. and at the bottom it says kernel panic01:22
chupietried to kill init01:22
chupieor something of that sort01:22
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eilkerLjL: is it correct ?//        alias -p test=sudo apt-get install01:23
fignewdoes shift+pageup scroll up?01:23
LjLeilker: why -p?01:23
chupiei dunno, i'll have to reboot and check01:23
RealisticDragondid you check the CD was ok?01:23
chupieno, i can also do that01:23
LjLand i think you need quotation marks after the = i think, eilker01:23
LjLalias test="sudo apt-get install"01:24
RealisticDragonmight be worth a check in case its a bad disk :o01:24
chupiewell i just got it and took it out of the mailing envelope01:24
chupiekk01:24
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fignewgood point RealisticDragon01:24
chupiebe back in a few01:24
thedevilsjesterDoes anyone know a good way to (in C++) execute a program from within your program, not using any forks or calls that stop execution of the calling app (I need this for launching a browser from within my app)01:24
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lupine_85thedevilsjester: execv() ?01:25
thedevilsjesterdoesnt work like I need it to01:25
thedevilsjesterwith that I have to harvest zombie proccesses of the called app01:25
thedevilsjesteratleast in all my experiances with it01:26
eilkerLjL: got it, thank you01:26
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eilkerfignew: what does this do  / ls='ls --color=auto' / ? what does it mean ? ls is ls, so why do we have color and auto etc..? what does color do ? is it for colors when we type "ls" ?01:29
chupiewell..01:29
RealisticDragonany luck chupie?01:29
chupiei get a kernel panic trying that01:29
RealisticDragonthe media check?01:29
chupiewhat it says is, kernel panic - not syncing01:29
chupieyeah01:29
jontechey guys... I've asked this in #rubyonrails and #apache... here we go: for fastcgi, this article tell me to add -D FASTCGI to APACHE2_OPTS in /etc/conf.d/apache2, however, I have fcgid installed... what do I add? However, I will note that these directions were written for gentoo... and I am on kubuntu and in the conf.d folder, I already have a fcgid.conf file.01:29
chupieand when its doing that.. my cdrom is making a weird noise01:29
RealisticDragonim going to go with a media fault then, if the drive works fine in windows :)01:30
chupienot in windows01:30
chupiebut yeah it works fine01:30
fignewI'm not sure... I typed in alias then <TAB> a few times and that popped up... I suppose it makes the file listings colorful01:31
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dettoaltrimentihey- I can't seem to get swf files (flash) to play in konqueror... any suggestions?01:31
fignewjontec: if you're gonna run fastcgi, use lighttpd01:31
fignew:P01:31
RealisticDragoni dont have aa copy of the md5sum handy for the 64 bit CD im afraid to check it :/01:31
chupiei've noticed this pc though is very picky on *nix's... i'm running FreeBSD atm.. which is so far the only thing i have been able to run on it01:31
fignewdettoaltrimenti: do they play in firefox?01:31
dettoaltrimentifignew: no01:32
jontecfignew: I'm limited... it's not my choice. I'm using apache201:32
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dettoaltrimentifignew: although I have downloaded numerous packages that claim to give flash support for mozilla01:32
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chupieshould i try downloading the iso? and trying it?01:32
eilkerfignew: i see, thanx anyway01:32
figneweilker: what's linux timeline?01:32
fignewchupie: yea, redownload perhaps with wget?01:33
RealisticDragonif even the media check wont run i would try it chupie, it depends - maybe not if you are on dialup or metered, then id try and get someone to give you a md5sum to check the current disk against01:33
eilkerfriends you should see this, http://linuxtoy.org/img/linux_timeline.png01:33
fignewdettoaltrimenti: do you want flash 7 or flash 9 (beta)?01:33
eilkerfignew: see the link pls, history of linux distro's01:33
chupiekk, redownload01:33
RealisticDragonflash 9 works pretty well, its in non-free backports right?01:34
dettoaltrimentifignew: flash 7, if it works on youtube- that's about all I use flash for01:34
RealisticDragonyoutube works with 7 or 9 :)01:34
fignewdettoaltrimenti: yes, 7 or 9, but most other videosites require 9 (for some odd reason)01:34
BluesKajflashn9 is buggy , had replace it with 701:34
dettoaltrimentifignew: hell ok, 901:34
RealisticDragonthey improved the video codecs in 8 i think fignew01:34
RealisticDragonbut there was no release 8 for linux01:35
chupiealso.. should i just go w/ i38601:35
fignewchupie: what connection you on?01:35
chupiealso.. should i just go w/ i386?01:35
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chupiecable01:35
chupie6mbit01:35
larson99999 + bugs = 7 + websites that don't work with 701:35
RealisticDragonchupie: i have an amd64 machine running i386 for now01:35
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dettoaltrimentiI write down whenever anyone tells me how to do something, because usually linux ends up getting messed up and I have to reinstall01:35
larson99999 + bugs > 7 + websites that don't work with 701:35
RealisticDragonit makes some things easier (for now) like browser plugins... 64bit gets easier all the time01:35
fignewsame, running i386 on my AMD6401:35
otaku-sananyone a kxdocker user here?01:35
fignewdettoaltrimenti: ok 1 sec01:36
chupiei dunno.. i've just so far used 64bit on this pc, xp 64, bsd 64.. etc.. not too much of a drop in performance? if any?01:36
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RealisticDragonnone i think01:36
chupie18 minutes to download01:37
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fignewHAR01:37
chupielol01:37
chupiethat would be nice01:38
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chupieahh01:38
RealisticDragonim in mexico at the moment... broadband here is two men shouting 0111001 at each other ;) (20k/sec on DSL)01:38
chupieLMFAO01:38
chupienice...01:38
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RealisticDragonhence no WPA, the (monopoly) phone company supplies all the DSL routers01:39
RealisticDragonanyway chupie i was planning to give 64 bit kubuntu another go at around 7.10 since my workstation will probably be happy with 6.06 until then :)01:39
fignewtechnically everything is 100mbit for me... but no servers are fast enough :/01:40
chupieah, icic01:40
dettoaltrimentiunlimited bandwidth doesn't exist!01:40
fignewdettoaltrimenti: http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=2006103116190153301:40
RealisticDragonfignew: was ever thus, even my 10mbit service at college used to overwhelm servers no problems01:41
jpiccolo!software raid01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about software raid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
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fignew!swraid01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
dettoaltrimentifignew: thanks01:41
jpiccolowhere would i find system requirements for software raid?01:41
fignewthere's one extra step though01:41
fignewdettoaltrimenti: at the end, open up Konq. go to prefrences, and search for plugins01:42
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RealisticDragonjpiccolo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto01:42
eilkerhey people lets say  / alias df="sudo apt-get install" /  what happens when i write "df ":D01:42
RealisticDragonoops, sorry, bad link :o01:42
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RealisticDragonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid?highlight=%28raid%2901:43
_kuja_eilker, exactly what you think it'd do01:43
fignewit would run apt-get install :/01:43
fignew:P01:43
eilker_kuja_: df is another command too....will df command be lost ?01:44
eilker:D01:44
Red-SoxHow do I make the time 12-hour?01:44
_kuja_alias is temporary, it only lasts until you close the terminal.01:44
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_kuja_you wouldn't be able to use df until you changed it01:44
fignewRed-Sox: right-click01:44
_kuja_I do that with install, a command I never use .... alias install="sudo apt-get install"01:44
fignewon the time01:44
_kuja_Only I put it in my bash profile ...01:44
eilker_kuja_: is alias temporary ?? but i need it permanantly....01:45
Red-Soxfignew: uh-huh?01:45
eilker_kuja_: possible ?01:45
_kuja_eilker, put in your ~/.bash_profile01:45
fignew1 sec01:45
Jucatoer. it's recommended to put it in .bash_aliases01:45
Red-Soxkk01:45
fignewDate & Time format01:45
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notechrewrite df to an install command? how odd01:46
dettoaltrimentifignew: sorry to be a pain, but that made flash work in firefox. Can I make flash work in konqueror?01:46
RealisticDragondont suppose anyone knows how to bind (key)-left click to be right click do they? stupid powerbooks01:46
_kuja_jucato, makes not a lot of differnece, but you have to switch on the use of .bash_aliases in the profile if I rmeember right01:46
fignewthen Times & Date01:46
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Jucato_kuja_: yes. but bash itself "recommends" putting in .bash_aliases,that's why it has that part01:46
JucatoRealisticDragon: switch the mouse buttons?01:46
fignewdettoaltrimenti: I told you :P    --- dettoaltrimenti: at the end, open up Konq. go to prefrences, and search for plugins01:46
eilkerjucato: where is " .bash_aliases" . i cant find its place by locate command01:47
RealisticDragonJucato: need to use the left button as well most of the time ;) but theres only one button on the machine01:47
Jucatooh...01:47
Jucatoeilker: ~/.bash_aliases01:47
Jucatoeilker: http://www.jucato.org/blog/ubuntu-classroom-command-line-basics/ scroll down to the Aliases part01:47
Red-SoxNow how do I restart the kicker?01:48
fignewlogin01:48
fignewermm logout01:48
_kuja_type in kicker and hit enter01:48
Jucatono01:48
JucatoAlt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"01:48
_kuja_if it's already running that killall kicker first01:48
DaveQBRed-Sox  dcop kicker kicker restart01:48
dettoaltrimentioh sorry fignew01:48
DaveQBbeat me! damn01:48
DaveQB:)01:48
Red-Soxcool :)01:48
jpiccoloRealisticDragon, thanks for the links but thats not really what i am looking for, i want to know what kind of cpu and ram requirements are needed for different raid sizes (say 2terabytes) and raid level say raid 501:48
_kuja_I swear my fingers are dyslexic anymore01:48
Red-Soxthanks guys01:48
RealisticDragonah sorry jpiccolo01:49
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jpiccolono prob01:49
fignewjpiccolo: none really01:50
fignewas long as it's not ancient01:50
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eilkerjucato: is it correct  ~/. = /home/user/.01:50
fignewit should be able to handle it01:50
Jucatoeilker: yes. actually you type in ~ and the system will understand it01:50
jpiccolosay a 1.4 althon and 512 ram01:50
fignewalso, pay attention to the Filesystem, Ext3 might not be the best choice for a 2TB RAID01:50
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fignewno problem01:51
jpiccolowould be able to handle a 6 disk raid 5 array?01:51
shadowmobhello everyone01:51
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_kuja_hi there01:51
shadowmobI am in need of some help.01:51
boris``what does ubuntu mean?01:51
_pragmashadowmob: how can I help you?01:51
goldfishboris``: "Unable to install gentoo."01:51
fignewjpiccolo: I don't see why not01:51
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boris``LAWLAWL01:51
goldfishboris``: in african01:51
jpiccolooh ok sweet01:51
_pragmagoldfish: i find you offensive01:51
shadowmobI just installed Kubuntu and I am trying to get it to work the way I want it to01:51
=== eilker learnt very interesting thing ~ redirects to /home/user
fignewas long as you have enough plugs :P01:52
goldfish_pragma: I find you black gold.01:52
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jpiccoloyeah, well i was looking at that01:52
_pragmashadowmob: HOW MAY I HELP YOU?!01:52
goldfishAh man.01:52
RealisticDragonwhat do you need help with shadowmob? :)01:52
_kuja_eilker: $HOME does too.01:52
goldfishThis is bad.01:52
shadowmobI have an intel core duo processor and an ATI x140001:52
_pragmashadowmob: if you can't be courteous enough to provide an answer, I will refuse to help you.01:52
Jucatoalthough ~ is easier to type than $HOME :)01:52
shadowmobI am trying to get it to run at full cpu frequency01:52
_pragmashadowmob: i see.01:52
Jucatoboris``: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu01:52
shadowmobit is only running at about half01:52
_pragmashadowmob: ah, only half.  hmm.01:53
_pragmashadowmob: i've had some experience with this01:53
RealisticDragonthe CPU should change on it's own depending on what you are doing shadowmob01:53
boris``Jucato: what?! this is offensive!01:53
fignewgoldfish: that translation is only applicable for one dialect: more commonly ubuntu means "cant be bothered with a system that is broken half of the time"01:53
_pragmaRealisticDragon: leave my noob alone01:53
jpiccolofignew, i was thinking about 2 of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681512402001:53
RealisticDragonmy laptop runs at half frequency unless im doing a lot of stuff01:53
goldfisheilker: If you're using 'cd ~' , 'cd' will do the same thing.01:53
_pragmashadowmob: i know how to help you01:53
shadowmobWell when I am running on battery power I'd like it to run at full cpu frequency01:53
boris``Jucato: that site claims to distribute "nigger porn"01:53
goldfishfignew: Ignore me, that was just for boris``.01:53
_pragmaRealisticDragon: you're running on half frequency01:53
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_pragmaRealisticDragon: shadowmob wants to run at full frequency01:53
boris``Jucato: i am black, you are offensive!01:53
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_pragmaRealisticDragon: i will help the noob if you will silence yourself01:53
_pragmaJucato: are you offending black people?01:54
RealisticDragongtg, see you alter :01:54
_pragmashadowmob: anyway, like I was saying ...01:54
_pragmashadowmob: what you need to do first is ignore RealisticDragon01:54
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_pragmashadowmob: we do this like this:  /ignore RealisticDragon01:54
Jucatoboris``, _pragma: prove your accusations01:54
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shadowmobDone01:55
eilkergoldfish: i knew cd ~ before, but just learnt ~ redirects to /home/user in konqueror01:55
fignewjpiccolo: looks ok (I suppose)... Do note, the easiest way to install a software raid is with the Alternative Install disk!01:55
_pragmashadowmob: perfect01:55
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dettoaltrimentican you open .doc files in konqueror?01:56
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jpiccolofignew, would it be better to install the os on the raid or have a seperate hd for the os01:56
Jucatoapokryphos: thanks btw :)01:56
jpiccolofignew, this is going to be just a fileserver01:57
fignewdettoaltrimenti: yes, I believe you can if you install koffice...01:57
Jucatodettoaltrimenti: not in Konqueror, but in OpenOffice.org01:57
Jucatoof course, if you have KOffice/KWord install, you can "preview" them in Konqueror01:57
apokryphosJucato: np, he was being a lot worse in #suse :O01:57
fignewseperate HD for OS is always best!01:57
Jucatoapokryphos: oh so he was spamming a lot, eh? good thing he didn't do that in #kde :P01:58
jpiccoloand if the seperate hd that the os is on dies, i would beable to get my software raided file system back?01:58
apokryphosit was?01:58
dettoaltrimentiok01:58
fignewJucato: with Koffice, KIO will only let you preview... not edit?01:58
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robomoore!pebkac01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pebkac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
robomooresure you don't >.>01:59
fignewjpiccolo: yes01:59
Jucatofignew: yes. read only. but it's not handled by KIO, btw01:59
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fignewreally?01:59
fignewJucato: what handles it then?01:59
JucatoKParts02:00
Jucatoembedded viewers are handled by KPart (except tar:/ afaik)02:00
fignewjpiccolo: if this is a mission critical File Server I would get hardware RAID though02:00
chupiewell, time to try the new iso02:00
chupiebrb02:00
fignewohhh02:00
fignewok02:00
_kuja_RAID and I never got along :(02:00
jpiccolofignew, well this is just going to be a fileserver to get the junk off my hd02:01
jpiccolopersonal use02:02
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jpiccoloi am building a different one for my dads shop right now, thats only going to be a raid 1 though02:02
fignewwow, you have alot of junk :P02:02
fignewmirroring is always good :)02:03
jpiccoloi am trying to wait till the 1T drives come out so it will drive the prices down on all the others02:03
jpiccoloplus i want to do it, and i want to make it worth my while02:04
jpiccolowow, gentoo takes awhile to install, well i should say compile02:05
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jpiccoloyeah i guess that would be about 5 levels of back up02:07
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fignewmeh, I've tried gentoo three times... each time I tried to install... compile errors.02:09
robomoore!twinview02:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:09
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jpiccolo66 out of 360 so far02:11
jpiccologentoo is the only one that reconigized the network card02:11
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kilrae! i got beryl working02:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i got beryl working - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:13
kilraequiet you02:13
fignewlol :P02:13
oslokilrae> welcome02:13
kilraesilly bot02:14
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kilraehehe, everything is wiggly02:14
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kilraethis is so going to improve my efficiency02:14
fignewLOL!02:14
kilraei keep moving windows just for fun02:15
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Fureshoanybody here know how to use unace? i can't seem to get the friggin command to work. i typed unace -ex filename.ace but i get a message on how to use it properly.02:15
kilraereminds me of when i got 3.102:15
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fignewdamnit jpiccolo, I feel like installing gentoo now02:17
jpiccolohaha, sorry02:17
fignewluckily for me, though, I have no computer to install it on02:17
jpiccoloi have a brand new one02:18
_kuja_One plus for beryl I say, is that moving windows no longer takes 50% cpu usage :)02:18
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jpiccolowell, new in the sense the motherboard came yesterday02:18
arrenlexfignew: Life is too short to run gentoo.02:18
jpiccoloand its the first micro atx board i have messed with02:18
deegrayvehey yall02:18
fignewlol arrenlex02:19
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fignewkilrae: did you use Aquamarine02:20
fignew?02:20
kilraei guess not02:20
kilraexgl and beryl02:20
kilraei've read the name, but i don't know what aquamarine is02:20
_kuja_I think aquamarine is a window decorator that uses kwin-style window decorations ...... if I remember right02:22
fignewyes02:22
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Red-Sox_OKAY_ now I need to get my songs off my iPod02:22
kilraei just got it working a few minutes ago, still using the standard decorator02:22
kilraei should to be studying for my metalogic exam on thursday02:23
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labadliHi every one.02:23
labadliHow are u today??02:23
_kuja_fignew, where would one get aquamarine anyway ... I just set up beryl a few days ago, and I miss the plastik windec already ...02:23
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kilraeplastik?  it's a crystal world02:24
jpiccolocan amarok play a .pls02:24
fannagogannayes02:25
labadliyes02:25
fannagogannaamarok is pretty god-damn versatile02:25
labadlican amarok play wma???02:25
jpiccolojust open the address as a stream02:25
jpiccolo?02:25
arrenlexThe real question is, can amarok cure cancer?02:25
fignewlabadli: if you have the wma codec :P02:25
fignewarrenlex: ear cancer, yes02:26
jpiccolooh i got it02:26
jpiccolosweet02:26
labadlican i have it in internet??02:26
fignewhmm?02:26
fignew_kuja_: I was just wondering if you had it installed, I'm interested in it02:27
larson9999if you have the cancer codec02:27
larson9999i think that's closed source02:27
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fignewjust checked, w32codecs does NOT have it :(02:28
fignew;)_02:28
chupiewell so far the live cd is working.. but the installation has froze @ 60% trying to load the usb storage module02:28
chupieheh02:28
fignewwow chupie, so it was the CD?02:29
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fignewchupie: do you use USB?02:29
chupieonly for my mouse02:30
chupiewhich.. didn't work on boot, so i had to search for a ps/2 mouse02:30
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chupiehmm... i hear hard drive activity but.. its been @ 60% for a while...02:31
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fignewgive it a few more minutes02:32
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fignewthen reboot, and append the bootoption nousb to the boot options02:32
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chupiek02:32
chupiekubuntu is based on debian right?02:33
fignewalso, try checking the virtual terminals for debug output02:33
fignewyes, debian based02:33
chupieyay, apt-get02:33
chupielol02:33
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arrenlexchupie: Or you could have just entered "apt-get" in the terminal to see what happens. =P02:34
fignew:P02:34
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madziayo02:35
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fignewyoyoyo02:35
arrenlexBling.02:36
madzia:D02:36
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chupieugh... gonna reboot in a few minutes02:37
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Jucatoreboot?02:40
arrenlexJucato: You know, that thing which resets your uptime.02:41
chupiecurrently trying to install02:41
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Jucatooooh... never heard of it till now. :)02:41
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Necroshey php-freak_02:42
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php-freak_necros: yes?02:44
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Necrosdid you get your setup working?02:45
larson9999arrenlex: viagra?02:45
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arrenlexlarson9999: ...where did that come from? o_O02:46
php-freak_Necros: most certainly, got everthing working on Kubuntu, just working a shopping cart for a client.02:46
larson9999arrenlex: resetting your uptime02:46
php-freak_custom programming job, and then I need to get back to my scooter website.02:46
Necroscool02:46
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larson9999arrenlex: wrong channel. sorry for the bad joke02:46
NecrosI had to go to a concert..02:46
php-freak_Necros: you wouldn't know any where to find a good article writers? I need some india submitted to articles sites02:47
php-freak_I'm into seo, but have too much time with what im doing now, and i need to pay someone to do my submissions for me, and directory submissions02:47
lrentzWhat is better to use for beryl XGL or AIGLX?02:47
Necros'Fraid not02:47
php-freak_hmmm02:47
php-freak_You know much seo/php?02:48
php-freak_sql?02:48
Necrosnope02:48
NecrosI'm a pure C++ kind of guy02:48
Necrosnever worked with databases and the like02:48
novoAnyone know how to unset my wireless channel on my card using iwconfig?  I set it to a specific channel but now I dont want it locked on a channel02:48
php-freak_Necros: do it for a living?02:48
_kuja_lrentz, AIGLX works very well.02:48
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Necrosphp-freak_: I sometimes contribute to various projects. I burn out when I work to long on code. I did rank first place in my state during high school....02:49
lrentzWhat is the difference between the two?02:49
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php-freak_Necros: what do you do for a living them? You should at least write software, and sale it?02:49
Koshtanhi wirld.. :)02:49
Necrosphp-freak_ I'm going into the Marine Corps this summer, until then I'm just bumming around02:50
php-freak_I see02:50
php-freak_Necros: well Hey i need to get back to work02:50
php-freak_ttyl02:50
_kuja_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XGL probalbly has an answer, lrentz02:50
arrenlexNecros: Iraq a hot destination this time of year?02:50
Necrosyep02:50
php-freak_getting paid 30 bucks an hour lol02:50
php-freak_take it easy02:50
Necrosarrenlex: Eh, its alright02:50
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lrentz_kuja_, Thanks for the info. AIGLX works well for you.  Are you using it on a laptop?02:51
_kuja_No, desktop, with the Nvidia 9631 drivers.02:51
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NecrosCan you run AIGLX on a legacy-glx card?02:52
_kuja_Which card?02:53
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larson9999if i run all of these fancy new graphics thingies, does it make my desktop slower?02:53
NecrosRiva TNT202:53
_kuja_larson9999: shouldn't, it offloads the majority of the work to the graphics card, it actually speeds things up for me :)02:54
larson9999_kuja_: you're just saying that to get me to try it.02:55
larson9999_kuja_: like that crack dealer on the corner always wanting to give me a freebie02:55
flaccid!logitech02:55
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:56
_kuja_No, I'm serious, lets say I move a window, before, CPU usage jumped to about 50% or so, not it doesn't go higher than about 5%02:56
MarcCwhat do I do when KDE locks up? I can move my mouse but I can't use it.02:56
Necros_kuja_: Do you know if a Riva TNT2 will run it?02:56
_kuja_MarcC: ctrl + alt + backspace might kill X for you, or you can hope it will.02:56
_kuja_Necros: not sure02:57
Jucato_kuja_: it will, if the keyboard still responds02:57
MarcCso there's no KDE-centric way, just killing x, eh?02:57
_kuja_Jucato: which is why I said might.02:57
JucatoMarcC: no. because X isn't a KDE app/server02:57
MarcCok, thanks02:57
MarcCwill try that :)02:57
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MarcCand how do I restart the kicker, btw?02:58
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chupieok, try #202:58
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_kuja_necros, you said the card is a legacy card, by legacy are you also meaning old? If it's underpowered your experience with it probably wouldn't be too nice anyhow.02:58
arrenlexlegacy:hardware::retro:fads::golden:old people02:59
JucatoMarcC: Alt+F2 (or in Konsole), type in "dcop kicker kicker restart" (without the quotes)03:00
NecrosI mean it uses the legacy nvidia driver03:00
NecrosI overclocked (considerably) and it runs games like Medal of Honor smoothly. I cant imagine a window manager being that demanding03:00
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_kuja_I can't either03:01
_kuja_I don't think the legacy nvidia drivers  have aiglx support, but you may be able to run xgl instead, but it's not as good (in my experience)03:02
Necrosalright03:03
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MarcCthanks Jucato03:07
Jucatonp :)03:08
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syntaxxis there a shortcut keys to go to the next virtual desktop?03:12
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weswh-firefox is a hole. i've had the same experience with it on xubuntu. i installed this system and have had it running for about 4 days...the first few my memory usage (after i got it all setup) and browsing the web with konqueror, was hanging around 250. (+/- buffers/cache). ever since i installed fox, it's been slowly creeping up, even though i haven't been opening more tabs or anything else. just had a couple of browser instances idle03:14
weswh-i'm up to 376 megs used now, ff being the only thing different about what is running or in use03:15
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weswh-i am also using ktorrent, and i have increased the load there a bit over the past few days as well - but it didn't seem to be growing much until ff.03:15
chupiewell good, got it installed03:15
chupieok.. i got one problem.. what is the defualt root password..? heh03:15
chupiei noticed just as it got done installing.. it never asked me for one03:16
NamShubchupie: theres none03:16
DaveQBchupie there's njo root account03:16
chupieoh..03:16
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DaveQBchupie  use sudo03:16
chupiewell thats different03:16
weswh-also, has anyone else noticed that konqueror is very slow to update it's idea of file permissions? when i chown stuff, ls -al will of course show the changes immediately. konqueror takes a certain series of closing it, doing a kdesu session, closing that, etc. before it will see the changes03:16
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DaveQBchupie  you can create a root account if you want or simply sydo su03:17
larson9999i guess i was lagging03:17
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weswh-chupie - it's a security measure03:17
chupiekk03:17
NamShubchupie: why do you want a root account for?03:17
chupieoh, i'm just used to using su03:17
larson9999at first i thought i needed to set a su pw.  now i think the sudo way is better03:17
chupiefor apt-get etc03:17
NamShubsudo -s :)03:17
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DaveQBweswh-  F5 seems to work for me in Konqueror03:18
weswh-yeah, i prefer sudo now too. though i do sudo su - pretty often too03:18
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weswh-DaveQB: yeah, i guess i just figured that going up a directory, and then back in would accomplish the same thing as F5. i suppose not. some kind of cache or whatever03:19
larson9999i got an offer for a permanent position... and it's for more money that i get for doing the same thing under contract.  i'm not charging enough!03:19
larson9999same company, too.03:19
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weswh-anyone use beagle? i know a while back it wasn't entirely stable...it would be nice if they had a tool like that, that would index the entire drive - not just certain types of files. like google desktop search for windows.03:20
larson9999 weswh- beagle write?03:20
weswh-larson9999: eh?03:20
larson9999weswh-: the program, beagle write.03:21
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weswh-larson9999: it's the same as beagle but more expansive?03:22
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larson9999weswh-: nah, just teasing.  beagle write was a program for the apple ii03:25
larson9999weswh-: word processor.03:25
campbcheh?03:26
campbchok, this is really screwing me up03:26
campbchan array03:26
campbchis a pointer03:26
lrentzWhat would no valid open pgp data found when trying to add pgp key03:27
campbchif i have an array of arrays, that is the same thing as a 2d array03:27
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campbchif i have an array of pointers, i should have a 2d array, without dealing too much with double pointers or 2d arrays03:27
campbchnow03:27
campbchin memory03:27
campbchi have 5 strings, all in formats[5] , and each is a char*03:28
campbchi take one of those03:28
weswh-larson9999: ah, never had an older apple :)03:28
campbchand i can reference it like formats[1] [1]  or formats[2] [1]  etc, correct?03:28
Admiral_Chicago#offtopic03:29
Admiral_Chicagocampbch: but you are correct03:29
Admiral_Chicagoerr !offtopic03:29
campbchhmm?03:29
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic03:29
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:29
campbchwhat is03:29
campbchoh03:29
campbchmy03:29
campbchmy channel changed :(03:29
campbchapologies03:29
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dettoaltrimentido people get paid to stay in this chatroom all the time?03:31
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larson9999dettoaltrimenti: yeah.  and all the girls digg them03:33
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|WAL|I'm having troubles with USB drives (CDrom/iPOD) in Kubuntu LTS.. they don't seem to be detected upon plugin03:33
jontec!supercow03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about supercow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
jontec!moo03:35
dettoaltrimentihow do I unpack a tar.gz file?03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
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LjL!tar | dettoaltrimenti03:35
ubotudettoaltrimenti: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression03:35
LjLdettoaltrimenti: tar xf filename03:35
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dettoaltrimentioh so ark can do it all03:37
dettoaltrimentiI'll learn how to do it in the terminal later03:37
Admiral_Chicagodettoaltrimenti: the terminal is a lot better than GUI03:38
|WAL|I'm having troubles with USB drives (CDrom/iPOD) in Kubuntu LTS.. they don't seem to be detected upon plugin03:38
dettoaltrimentiwhy is the terminal better03:38
Admiral_Chicagomost users of *nix systems will agree (after) they use the systems for a while03:38
Admiral_Chicagoterminal can do most anything03:38
Admiral_Chicago!repeat | |WAL|03:38
ubotu|WAL|: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience03:38
dettoaltrimentiwhy even use beryl, or xwindows then?03:39
LjLi don't agree that the terminal is better. i think it's better for certain purposes, and i also think it's overused in Unix due to bad GUIs03:39
dettoaltrimentican I get onto irc chat in the terminal?03:40
Admiral_Chicagodettoaltrimenti: irssi03:40
angasuledettoaltrimenti: yes03:40
LjL!info irssi | dettoaltrimenti03:40
ubotuirssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB03:40
Necrosterminal is much faster03:40
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Admiral_Chicago!info w3m | dettoaltrimenti03:40
angasulethe terminal is different, better for some things, worse for others03:40
ubotuw3m: WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support. In component main, is standard. Version 0.5.1-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1036 kB, installed size 1816 kB03:40
dettoaltrimentiim going to ive that a try03:40
angasulefor example, the terminal sucks for detail editing of an image03:41
angasulebut for batch processing of images it's great03:41
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Admiral_Chicagoangasule: uhh some people swear only by vim or emacs03:41
flaccidsome people live in a fairy world03:41
angasulefor example, if you have a lot of black and white images, you can turn the white into transparent of hundreds of images with a single command (I had to do this once, actually)03:41
LjLangasule: wait, if i really want *detail* editing, i find using hex codes easier than pointing my shaky mouse to the right pixel with my shaky hand :P03:41
flaccidof their own03:41
angasuleAdmiral_Chicago: I'm a vim user, actually :)03:42
Admiral_Chicagohahah, that's true03:42
angasuleLjL: hahahaha03:42
angasuleI did draw a Tyrannosaurus Rex pixel by pixel, once03:42
Admiral_Chicagozomglolwth03:42
angasuleand I would use a hex editor to create my own images when coding an image loader03:42
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flaccidsounds like you got way too much time on your hands :)03:42
angasulebut, those were just in case I ever need to use the insanity defense03:42
dettoalt1imentiwow, irc on the terminal is awesome03:43
angasuleI was like 12 when I did the tyrannosaurus rex03:43
LjL!info aview03:43
ubotuaview: A high quality ASCII art image viewer and video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0rc1-8 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 124 kB03:43
LjL!info hasciicam03:43
ubotuhasciicam: ascii for the masses. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1.3 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 124 kB03:43
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angasuleyou can play quake in ascii :)03:43
angasuleanyway, console != ascii03:43
LjL!info overkill03:43
ubotuoverkill: bloody 2D action deathmatch-like game in ascii-art. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-8 (edgy), package size 323 kB, installed size 2724 kB03:43
angasulein fact if the console could only do ascii, it'd suck03:44
angasuleutf-8 is much better :)03:44
angasule!info nethack03:44
ubotuPackage nethack does not exist in any distro I know03:44
angasulewhaaaat?03:44
angasulenethack is the best game in history03:44
flaccidhaha03:44
LjLangasule: well yeah, it can only do character rendering though (unless you consider the framebuffer 'console' that is)03:44
angasuleLjL: ASCII is only 127 chars (well, even less)03:45
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flaccid!falconseye03:45
ubotufalconseye: A port of NetHack using SDL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.3-16ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 812 kB, installed size 2172 kB03:45
VanessaECan someone help me here?  GIMP keeps printing this image I'm working on (a 3320x4950 slice of a PDF I loaded) in landscape mode, making it run off one edge of the page, even though I've explicitly told GIMp to use portrait mode.  Tell it to use landscape mode and it prints in portrait mode (but of course I can't use the whole page).03:45
LjL!find nethack | angasule03:45
ubotuFound: jnethack, nethack-common, nethack-console, nethack-el, nethack-gnome (and 4 others)03:45
angasulebah, GUI for nethack is heresy03:45
LjLangasule: so is ASCII for video :P03:45
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flaccid!nethack-qt03:45
ubotunethack-qt: Text-based/Qt overhead view D&D-style adventure game. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.3-8ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 937 kB, installed size 2092 kB03:45
angasuleLjL: have you tried it? :P03:46
LjLangasule: i don't have to try it to know it's heresy :P03:46
Unistefan, you wouldn't happen to be the stefan who works at codesourcery would you?03:46
bLaZeDhow can i remove a sym link in cli...i tried to rm -rf the file and it says i cant03:46
angasuleLjL: set the console to green on black and watch The Matrix in ASCII, it's a religious experience, I tell you!03:46
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LjLangasule: i would, but i'm busy listening to a novel in morse03:47
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flaccidbLaZeD: what is the error?03:47
angasule:P03:47
bLaZeD[enemy@glass public_html] $ rm -rf etmain/03:47
bLaZeDrm: cannot remove `etmain/': Not a directory03:47
bLaZeDi created it with ln -s03:48
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flaccidbLaZeD: remove the / at the end03:48
flaccidthe / indicates the directory. omitting it indicates the file or symlink03:48
bLaZeDomg sorry for wasting ya time03:48
bLaZeDlol03:48
bLaZeD:-)03:48
flaccidno. that tripped me out for months because of tab complete back in the day...03:48
flaccid:)03:48
flaccidnow i am bored03:49
flaccideating sushi03:49
flaccidyay03:49
bLaZeDhehe03:50
AlexLibmansushi rules03:51
flaccidthis is really good sushi, cept they ran out of salmon rolls03:52
VanessaE(just fyi, I just deleted my .gimp-2.2 directory just to make sure no settings were getting screwed up... didn't help)03:53
VanessaEjust tried it with another image (something from my camera)...  same problem there too.03:55
Admiral_ChicagoVanessaE: what did you just try?03:55
VanessaEAdmiral: trying to print an image with The GIMP..03:55
Admiral_Chicagoah i see03:55
Admiral_Chicagohmm, maybe a bug report03:55
VanessaEwhen I tell it portrait, it prints landscape, and vice-versa03:55
Admiral_Chicago!bug03:56
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots03:56
flaccidVanessaE: its either gimp, or your print server03:56
VanessaEthing is, it works on my husband's box, which goes through the server also.03:56
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flaccidVanessaE: what is the dif between your box and your husbands then?03:56
VanessaEhardware-wise, just a different video card.  Software size, not sure (both run edgy and are up to date)03:57
flaccidvery hard to troubleshoot03:57
flaccidtry using the same cupsd.conf03:57
VanessaEI can print from KDE's printer setup - the test page comes out just fine03:57
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flaccidyou could have different local print system configurations..03:58
VanessaEpossibly - but both machines dump to .....wait as sec03:58
Admiral_Chicagomy keyboard stopped responding on Dapper, any ideas? Kdm works, but nothing past it03:58
VanessaEOpera's doing it too...03:58
VanessaEwtf?03:58
_kuja_admiral_chicago, so I'm assuming it works fine in the terminal also ... try changing the region of the keyhboard in systemsettings, if you can get there03:59
Admiral_Chicago_kuja_: i'll try03:59
flaccidVanessaE: it does to to the local print system first you know..04:00
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VanessaEyep I know..checking the settings there now.04:01
flaccidAdmiral_Chicago: there is some bugs on that. not sure if its the same. tried a different user or new login ?04:01
VanessaEthe "printer" on the local system is just a 'raw' queue, since I'm letting my server handle the grunt work04:01
Admiral_Chicagoflaccid: different login? tty?04:01
flaccidVanessaE: yes but its probably differnt cupsd.conf to your husband04:01
VanessaEright04:01
flaccidAdmiral_Chicago: i'd adduser test then login in kdm with test. quick of seeing if the problem lies in ~/somewhere04:02
weswh-i have an Athlon 2500+, should i install ardour-gtk, or ardour-gtk-i686?04:02
VanessaEI might have fixed it...04:02
Admiral_Chicagoflaccid: i'll try that next, it's on a different bok04:02
flaccidok04:02
VanessaEThe "margins" page in the print setup was showing a landscape image even though it was set for portrait... tried switching landscape/portrait a couple of times, left it back on portrait, hit OK, then went back in.  Now it looks right and the printout is correct.04:03
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VanessaE(in KDE control center : Printers -> Instances -> Settings -> Margins )04:04
flaccidVanessaE: just one of those things i guess. one of those things that really gets to ya04:04
RoKFiTwhat's going on people?04:04
VanessaEyeah04:04
flaccid.. if it doesn't fix heh04:04
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VanessaEvery weird..04:05
Admiral_Chicago_kuja_: nothing, flaccid will attempt you approach later04:05
Admiral_Chicagogotta run04:05
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flaccidcya04:06
RoKFiTis there a cedega installer in repos04:08
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flaccidcedega is not free04:09
flaccidand not in repos04:10
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RoKFiTi know, but the .deb file is not installing for me04:11
Admiral_ChicagoRoKFiT: sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb04:11
Admiral_Chicagothat's the command04:11
Admiral_Chicagoafk04:11
flaccidwhat is the error, RoKFiT?04:11
RoKFiTnothing, ark just opens with nothing in it04:11
flaccidhave you tried installing it?04:12
RoKFiTwith Admiral_Chicago's method?04:12
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JucatoRoKFiT: don't click on it in Konqueror. right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package04:12
flaccidyes04:12
flaccidor Jucatos04:12
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RoKFiTyes now it says errors were encountered when trying to install .deb something04:13
JucatoArk doesn't install .deb because it's not an installer. :)04:13
RoKFiTit says errors installing04:13
JucatoRoKFiT: use pastebin to show the errors04:13
claydohdang cedega needs on or more deps installed, but i can't remember which04:14
RoKFiTdpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in version number in /home/brandon/Desktop/cedega-small_5.2.3_all.deb04:14
RoKFiTi can't copy it04:14
flaccidark can usually open .deb packages. maybe the package is stuffed04:14
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RoKFiTJucato: i can't copy the text from the install terminal04:15
claydohRoKFiT: if its highlighted, it is copied04:15
tato_yes now it says errors were encountered when trying to install .deb someth04:15
JucatoRoKFiT: highlight the text, then right-click Copy?04:15
RoKFiTone minute04:15
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RoKFiThttp://pastebin.ca/27734104:16
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claydohJucato: the installer doesn't have any right-click options04:16
Jucatooh04:16
claydohbut once highlighted, it is copied04:16
Jucatoyeah, X thingy :)04:17
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Jucatohm.. strange error.. not very helpful04:17
RoKFiTyeah i can't copy from x thingy?04:17
flaccidpackage is most likely chopped04:17
claydohiether need python-gtk204:17
RoKFiTmeaning?04:17
claydohor04:17
JucatoRoKFiT: by default, when you highlight something, it's copied into X's clipboard. you can paste it normally, or press the middle mouse button to paste04:18
claydohto paste, justctrl-v after highlighting the selected text04:18
flaccidmeaning its corrupted, not the full thing was copied, hash doesn't match etc.04:18
RoKFiTokay, thanks04:18
dennisterhey ppl...i really need some help tonight: can't log into x except as root04:18
claydohor possibly  python-glade04:18
RoKFiTpython-gtk2 installed04:19
flacciddennister: have you checked logs?04:19
RoKFiTglade-1.2 or glade2?04:19
dennisteryes, kernel event issues, permission denied on /dev/null...host of other issues i don't know how to fix04:19
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larson9999bed time04:20
flacciddennister: if you create a newuser and log in with that, does it work04:20
claydohprob glade204:20
_kuja_bed time? what's that :P04:20
dennisterhaven't tried that yet...but will...hate being in as root :(04:21
flaccidyeah it sux. if the new user can log in. would be easier to migrate your profile to the new user04:21
flaccidunless you wanna spend hours on it.04:22
dennisteri don't, but i've got to cause other two users are me and mythtv, which i just got reinstalled with new tuner04:22
RoKFiTbrandon@brandon-desktop, how can I rename brandon-desktop?04:22
dennisternice to see u back flaccid :)04:22
flaccidhehe thanks dennister. been very busy at work04:23
claydohRoKFiT: in System Settings, in the networking section04:23
RoKFiTthanks04:23
flaccideven though i'm at work atm heh04:23
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flaccidmythtv set up on ubuntu sux asss04:24
dennisterlol...i remember you got a new job; is it going well, d\ya think?04:24
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RoKFiTflaccid, use tvtime04:24
flaccidyeah kqemu would be good Alex04:24
flaccidyeah I use it RoKFiT. but would like to try mythtv coz of the hype04:24
flaccidyeah no job rox04:25
dennisterwell i did have mythtv working...then found out ir blaster on that model could never transmit, now i have a different, more powerful model04:25
RoKFiTsame here, i want to give it a try04:25
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flaccidboss aint even here atm. doing goverment client work. 'i was hacking a goverment site yesterday'04:25
dennisterand it was almost perfect here...till i got this x problem04:25
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dennisterheheheh...to get paid to hack...heaven04:26
flaccidi need a digital tv tuner that is linux friendly, has 2 tuners, is usb and is small. suggestions?04:26
RoKFiTflaccid, doesn't ati make an external usb video card?04:26
dennisterwell, hauppauge 150 is linux favourite...ivtv drivers, but edgy makes ivtv easy04:26
flaccidRoKFiT: no idea04:26
flacciddennister: can you link me?04:26
Jucato"can you link me?"04:27
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flaccidheheh04:27
dennisterhold on a sec04:27
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flaccidnah hes a 40304:28
Jucatolol04:28
dennisterhttp://www.hauppauge.com/04:28
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dennisterdo NOT get the 250 or 350 models tho...make sure it's 'newer' 150 model based04:28
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dennisteror get a tuner that's not ivtv-driver-based at all, and you'll have more choices in terms of tvapplications04:29
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flacciddennister: you can't get that in usb04:30
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dennistere.g. xawtv, motv, tvtime, kdetv....none work with ivtv cards...usb tuners don't work well with linux period04:30
flaccidoh my bqad04:30
flaccidits the 150 in the usb04:30
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flaccidWinTV-PVR-USB204:31
flaccidhttp://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvrusb2.html04:31
dennisterbe VERRYY careful buying usb-type tuners04:31
dennisterdo u have to have usb?04:31
flaccidyeah coz i want it for mobile purposes04:31
dennisteroh dear...hold on04:32
RoKFiThow can i install cedega?04:32
flaccidwhy be careful04:32
RoKFiTcompile it?04:32
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claydohRoKFiT: there are how-to's but the code you can compile does not contain all the features of the cedega binary04:33
flaccidRoKFiT: read the manual04:33
flaccidbbs04:33
claydohIf you bought cedega, compiling the code is a step backwards in this case04:34
RoKFiTyeah but the installer isn't working04:34
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claydohcompiling is harder04:34
claydohyou should pastebin the errors given,04:35
claydohwhen trying to install it04:35
claydohwhere did you get it from?04:35
RoKFiTso you're saying try to compile it and pastebin those errors?04:35
RoKFiTbecause i just pastebined the .deb installer errors04:35
claydohno paste the errors from installing the .deb04:35
dennisterflaccid: this may take a while to find the list of tested cards04:36
RoKFiTclaydoh: http://pastebin.ca/27734104:36
claydohRoKFiT: i don't see a link to it...04:36
claydohahh04:36
claydohbad download04:36
RoKFiTit was a bad download?04:36
claydohI woulfd say so04:37
claydohwhered you get it from?04:37
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claydohahh hold on04:37
claydohyou need to make sure in the command you have the full name of the deb file04:37
dennisterflaccid: u here or away? i found something for u04:38
claydohit nedds to look likethis: 'sudo dpkg -i cedega-small_5.2.3_all.deb' or whatever the actual filename is04:38
JucatoRoKFiT: sudo dpkg -i [type in a few letters of the deb file then press Tab] 04:38
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claydohif it is warez version of cedega you are on your own :)04:39
RoKFiTsetting up cedega-small04:39
RoKFiT...  now nothing04:40
claydohitll take a sec04:40
RoKFiTokay04:40
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RoKFiTcan i lower the dpi of my mouse?04:40
shinobi2anyone have kubuntu on a mac?04:41
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dennisterflaccid: Hauppauge does make a Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T USB2 that supposedly works with mythtv..mythtv's list of supported cards is at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Video_capture_cards04:42
jpiccologentoo still installing04:42
jpiccoloarg04:42
Rob-Westcan someone help me install vncviewer04:43
Rob-Westapt-get install vncviewer doesnt work04:44
RoKFiTno, yeah, this cedega installer isn't installing04:44
RoKFiTJucato:04:45
JucatoRoKFiT: only reason I see is that the package is corrupted04:45
Rob-West!vncviewer04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vncviewer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:45
claydohdoes it give a different error?04:45
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RoKFiTit says Setting up cedega-small, then goes to my regular terminal line04:46
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RoKFiTbrandon@smith:~/Desktop$04:46
jpiccolocedega offers support04:46
RoKFiTi'll try the forums04:46
RoKFiTdoes anyone know how to change the dpi of a mouse?04:47
Rob-Westcan someone help me install vncviewer04:47
RoKFiT2000dpi is way way way too fast04:47
jpiccolohave you tried changing pointer acceration?04:47
RoKFiTyes, they both are as low as they go04:47
claydohthat should mean it installed if it gave no errors04:50
claydohtho it won't show up in your menu until you logout/in04:50
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claydohor wait a while04:51
Rob-Westwhats the VNC port04:51
claydohbut if you type in 'cedega' in a terminal or in the Run Command dialog, it should open up04:52
Red-SoxIs there a screensaver that shows me what's now playing in Amarok04:53
_kuja_red -sox, I don't think so04:54
dennistertest04:54
dennistertest04:54
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bobdediegotest04:56
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claydohRed-Sox: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4648804:57
claydohmight work for you04:57
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Rob-Westi can VNC into my little brothers PC04:58
Rob-Westcant*04:59
weswh-i have an Athlon 2500+, should i install ardour-gtk, or ardour-gtk-i686?05:00
bobdediegoardour-gtk05:00
bobdediegoI686 its for two cores cpu05:00
bobdediegos05:00
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dennistercould someone let flaccid know about the links/tuner info i posted for him^^?05:02
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dennisteri gotta go reboot and see if my problem's fixed05:03
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nixternalanyone, at the command line (konsole) type:    grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo | sed -e 's/.*: //' | awk '{print $1,$3,$4}'05:04
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nixternallet me know what you get please05:04
jpiccoloi get05:05
jpiccoloAMD 64 X205:05
nixternalcat /proc/cpuinfo    <-- how about that?05:05
nixternalim glad you tried that with a x205:06
bobdediegomodel name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz05:06
jpiccoloyou want all that?05:06
nixternalthanks05:06
nixternalno jpiccolo , just the model name05:06
nixternalsorry, i should have said grep05:06
Dr_willisZ80 X1\05:06
Dr_willis:)05:06
jpiccolomodel name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+05:06
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nixternalrocking..thanks05:07
jpiccolonp05:07
bobdediego:)05:07
nixternaltime to get new hardware..make coding stuff easier for all platforms :)05:07
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bobdediegoindeed05:08
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flaccidthanks dennister05:09
Red-SoxHow does one install flash for konq?05:09
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jaseyhi there, id just like to know how one could disable icons in menus and such. thank ya in advance05:13
flaccidgive google a try Red-Sox05:14
flaccidits just a symlink i believe05:14
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_kuja_jasey, right click on the kmenu icon, configure kmenu05:14
_kuja_might be in there ...05:14
_kuja_**menu editor05:15
jaseywould not that just configure the k menu05:15
jaseyi mean every menu05:15
jaseytoolbar menus, right click menu, the works05:15
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_kuja_Hmm, nope, it's elsewhere05:15
bobdediegogo to system settings05:15
dennisterhey ppl05:15
_kuja_desktop in system settings05:15
bobdediegoindeed05:15
bobdediegohiya dennister05:15
jaseyoki doki05:15
jaseyunder behaviour?05:16
dennisterstill can't start x, except as root in recovery mode...one problem is kernel event manager can't start at boot05:16
_kuja_I'm not seeing it there either .... gah05:16
bobdediegounder Appearance I think05:16
jaseyive looked in there05:16
_kuja_right click the panel, configure panel05:16
dennisternor is the system services module present in system settings...at least not for root05:17
Skeez187There are a bunch of screensavers that only play when I choose the "random" option, how do I make them show upin the actual list of screensavers?05:17
_kuja_it's under the panels appearance menu05:17
dennisterthis is one helluva problem05:17
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jaseywhere, _kuja_ ??05:18
_kuja_right click on the panel, configure panel, click on appearance, there should be a checkbox for showing the side image in the menu05:18
bobdediegowhat exactly do you need to change?05:18
jaseyi dont care about the k menu05:18
jaseyim talking about icons that appear in menus, any menus05:18
jaseyright click menus, toolbar menus, etc etc05:19
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bobdediegothat must be definitely on System Settings05:19
bobdediegodouble check please05:19
jaseystupid little pictures of clipboards next to Paste and stars and pieces of paper next to New and spanners next to Configure blah blah blah05:19
jaseyive doubled checked that and kcontrol, no module seems to control it05:19
bobdediegohumm05:19
bobdediegothen I dunno my friend05:20
jaseyim thinking some obscure configuration file may control it..05:20
bobdediegohhahahha05:20
jaseyas with everything lol05:20
bulwynkl!LVM05:20
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO05:20
bobdediegoi feel ya05:20
_kuja_jasey, are you sure the one I pointed you to doesn't turn that off as well? It would require an application restart to take effect if it's the one05:20
jaseyno, it just affects the k menu. the module is, after all, all about the panels and not the widgets05:21
_kuja_Well, I really doubt we'll have any luck finding anything in system settings, it's crippled by comparison with kcontrol anyway05:22
jaseyi know, why we have it is beyond me05:22
jaseythats why i use kcontrol anyway05:23
jaseyif i were to accurately describe how i want menus to look like, i would have to compare it to Windows 98/Me/2000 (whereby having icons in menus is a mortal sin)05:23
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bulwynklmedia path question... default path for e.g. kubuntu install CD is /cdrom, I have a CDRW that seems to want to mount in /cdrw and DVDRW that wants to mount in /dvdrw.... OR05:24
_kuja_Try going to appearance -> style05:24
jaseytried it05:24
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bobdediego...we need a handbook....or the Bible, LOL05:24
bulwynklDVDrw that mounts as /cdrom but is somewhat broken and doesn't want to recognise CDs (only DVDs) so looking in cdrom0 is not working, but cdrom1 is not the right location...05:25
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momalHow can I force a device to become unbusy?? | umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy | It wont let me eject the cdrom. How can i force it to become unbusy.. I don't seem to have anything up using it.05:25
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bobdediegoreboot?05:25
momalwithout rebooting05:25
jaseyunmount it ?05:25
bobdediegodamn05:25
bobdediego:(05:25
bobdediegogot me there05:25
_kuja_sudo umount /media/cdrom005:26
_kuja_?05:26
bobdediegothat should do it05:26
momalstill says its busy05:26
jaseyif not, make sure a process isnt using the disc drive05:26
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jaseyuse system guard and see what process is most likely using it05:26
_kuja_sudo fuser -ck /media/cdrom005:26
bobdediegoand kill it05:26
_kuja_?05:26
jaseyand if youre trying to unmount while the terminal's working path is /media/cdrom, theres another problem :P05:27
abattoirmomal: are you in /cdrom while trying to umount it?05:27
momalnope05:27
abattoir:P05:27
momali closed everything that seems to be using it05:27
abattoir /media/cdrom?05:27
momalnope not in it05:27
Skeez187There are a bunch of screensavers that only play when I choose the "random" option, how do I make them show up in the actual list of screensavers?05:28
momalscrew it just going to have to reboot05:28
bobdediegosee?, reboot....magic :)05:28
_kuja_fuser usually works for killing the processes that don't want to die that are accessing the cd drive.... always did for me anyway05:29
jaseySkeez187: an easy way would be to install xscreensaver which comes with a better screensaver configuration utility than kde's one... but then of course everything gets mucked up cos you have too many screensaver managers lol05:30
bobdediegofuser works, ya, but that gus had something different running i think05:30
bobdediegoguy*05:30
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Skeez187Hmmm05:31
jaseybut yes, xscreensaver's configuration utility is just better in general to both the gnome and kde ones :)05:31
Skeez187Im installing it now05:32
bobdediegonow, I have a question05:32
bobdediegois there a theme manager for kubuntu?05:32
RoKFiTi'm trying to install razertool_amd64.deb and it says Unpacking replacement razertool...  Setting up razertool... Press <enter> to exit..., I press enter and nothing happens, what should I do?05:32
jaseyin terms of what kind of theme?05:33
_kuja_bobdiego, kcontrol -> appearance -> themes?05:33
jaseylol05:33
Skeez187Thanks a lot jasey, you solved my problem05:33
bobdediegois not there, already checked, on Mepis there is one but on Kubuntu seems to be not there05:33
bobdediegosorry for the n00b question :)05:34
jaseyno worries Skeez187. just for a bit of trivia, xscreensaver was the manager on ubuntu 5.10 :) why they changed is beyond my comprehension05:34
jaseyit should be there in kcontrol =\05:34
_kuja_you are in kcontrol and not systemsettings, right?05:34
jaseysystemsettings is rubbish. open kmenueditor and change the command to kcontrol >_> lol05:34
_kuja_Why that's not in systemsettings is beyond me, but it _is_ in kcontrol05:34
Skeez187Yeah the one in Dapper doesnt even show the other 50 screensavers available05:34
Skeez187They should have kept xscreensaver05:35
jaseyyeah they should have05:35
bobdediegounder Appearance I have: Colors, Fonts, GTK Styles and Fonts, Font Installer, Icons, Style and Window Decorations...missing Themes05:35
jaseywhat we should do is put in Feisty's launchpad specs page is "get rid of that systemsettings rubbish, put kcontrol back where it belongs"05:36
bobdediego under Appearance I have: Colors, Fonts, GTK Styles and Fonts, Font Installer, Icons, Style and Window Decorations...missing Themes05:37
bobdediegothats what I get from there05:37
jaseyunusual :S05:37
_kuja_I do believe they're planning to do a _lot_ moreusability work on the currently rather unusable systemsettings05:37
bobdediegothey should05:38
jaseysystemsettings is just confusing lol. nothing is where it should be.05:38
bobdediegoMepis in that matter is better05:38
bobdediegobut I will not wipe my HDD again , hehe05:38
jaseylol05:38
bobdediegolol05:38
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_kuja_here's what it looks like for me: http://images.xnowherex.net/screenshots/themes.jpg05:39
jaseypretty05:39
bobdediegois that on Kubuntu kuja?05:40
_kuja_Yeah05:40
bobdediegodamn05:40
jaseyi would say it is, if hes on a kubuntu channel ^^05:40
bobdediegowhat did u install to get that config?05:40
jaseythat comes as part of kubuntu-desktop05:41
bobdediegoLOL05:41
bobdediegoI know05:41
_kuja_a part of kde-base at that05:41
jaseyoh05:41
bobdediegodumb question05:41
jaseylol05:41
jaseybrb05:41
jaseygotta uninstall beryl, it keeps mucking up the konversation text buffer :(05:41
bobdediegok05:41
jaseyoh this is nice... better :)05:42
_kuja_which reminds me ... I need to get around to finding aquamarine, if it's in a usable state05:42
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jaseytrevino's repositories have it05:43
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malik__!aquamarine05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aquamarine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
_kuja_and what line would I need to add to my sources.list for trevino's repository? what arch's does it support?05:44
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jaseyit supports 32 bit and amd05:44
whisky?05:44
jaseydeb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn05:45
bobdediegohttp://bob.pcpanama.com/Fotos/snapshot4.jpg05:45
bobdediegocheck that out05:45
bobdediegothat is what I get on Appearance05:45
jaseyuse with extreme caution, aquamarine crashes more than drunk drivers on a friday night05:45
_kuja_eee, I was beginning to get that impression when I googled it05:45
jaseythats not kcontrol to begin with05:46
jaseythats systemsettings05:46
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bobdediegobutuuuuuuuuuum05:46
bobdediegohahahahaha05:46
_kuja_bobdiego: hit alt+f2, type in kcontrol, hit enter.05:46
jaseyclick the k menu, click run command, and enter kcontrol :P05:46
bobdediegook05:46
jaseyya that too lol05:46
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bobdediegoholy command05:47
kkathmankcontrol = much better :)05:47
bobdediegohehehehe05:47
kkathmanhehe05:47
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jaseyand if you ever feel adventurous, open the kmenu editor, and change the command for the System Settings entry from whatever it is to kcontrol ^^05:47
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kkathmanvery good idea in fact05:47
RoKFiTcan anyone help me change the permission of my mouse?05:47
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bobdediegomaking some changes at this moment :O05:48
_kuja_RoKFiT, whatever do you mean?05:48
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RoKFiTi downloaded and installed razertool-gtk and it says that i may need to change the permission of the device05:49
jaseytried running the program as sudo?05:49
_kuja_sudo chmod (whateveryouneeditchangedto) /dev/input/mice05:49
RoKFiT_kuja_: 777?05:50
jaseylol05:50
_kuja_that'll probably do it05:51
RoKFiTi seriously don't know05:51
jaseyand like i say, try that tool as sudo05:51
jaseyoften those programs urge you to change the permissions of everything when all it REALLY wants is to be run as root05:51
_kuja_Be right back, I need to get myself some MD before any more blood leaks into my caffeine stream05:51
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jaseylol05:52
RoKFiTthere was an error communicating with the device: Operation not permitted   You may need to change the permissions of the device (see the README)05:52
bobdediegonow, this is nice05:52
RoKFiTany ideas?05:52
jaseyhave you seen the readme? lol05:52
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_kuja_Mmmmmm, caffeinated05:55
jaseywoo05:56
RoKFiThow do i restart udev?05:58
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_kuja_sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart, probably05:58
RoKFiTwill that restart the computer?05:58
_kuja_No05:59
RoKFiTYES IT WORKED!!!!05:59
RoKFiTHAHAHAH05:59
RoKFiTTOO HAPPY!!!!05:59
RoKFiTthat was awesome!!!05:59
Admiral_Chicago!wifi06:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:00
_kuja_hehehe06:00
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Admiral_Chicagoflaccid: ping06:01
RoKFiTI LOVE YOU WORLD!!!06:01
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flaccidhello06:01
flaccidping?06:02
_kuja_yM inmd si ras.clebdm06:02
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RoKFiTIT'S SO SMOOTH!!!06:02
jaseywhat is??06:02
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RoKFiTmy razer mouse06:02
RoKFiTthe razer mouse06:02
jaseyoh :)06:02
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RoKFiTthe DPI was way too high and i finally got the razertool-gtk working06:03
RoKFiTand its sooooo smooth06:03
RoKFiTi love this mouse!06:03
jaseyim glad you have it working how you like it :D06:03
wheatie\o/06:03
_kuja_I contemplated buying one of those, then I decided I wanted to save my money for something else, so I spent the extra money on a keyboard :)06:03
RoKFiTthank you jasey06:03
ichidohello06:03
jaseyno worries. if only my mouse would behave how i want it. lol.06:03
jaseyhi there :)06:03
_kuja_helloooooooo06:04
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RoKFiTwhy would anyone even want a 2000 dpi in this day and age06:05
RoKFiTits WAY too powerful06:05
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RoKFiTor way too high dpi06:05
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_kuja_super-duper precise work?06:05
ichidoor pro gaming06:06
RoKFiTbut it makes the mouse too fast06:06
RoKFiTmaybe in linux06:06
RoKFiTi suppose for windows06:06
RoKFiTbut even then there were mouse flaws06:06
RoKFiTlike mouse wiggle06:06
_kuja_@pity 7 windows06:07
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ichidoslow night uh?06:09
RoKFiT_kuja_: what did you say?06:09
_kuja_you betcha06:09
RoKFiTyeah kinda slow06:10
jaseyoh dont yawn, im so tired! lol06:10
_kuja_Sleep is for the weak.06:10
RoKFiTvlc is kinda jacked.  i liked kaffeine, but disliked compatability06:10
RoKFiTlike the volume in vlc is annoying to adjust06:10
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ichidoi use kaffeine w/ the xine backend06:11
jaseyvlc is an evil thing. but still. nice way to avoid downloading win32codecs.06:11
_kuja_I hear VLC will be switching to QT4 :)06:11
jaseyoh hooray!06:11
ichidonice06:11
jaseybetter than that wxwidgets stuff lol06:11
RoKFiTyeah jasey, my kaffeine just like stopped working06:11
jaseyi hope audacity follows suit o_o06:11
ichidoaudacity looks so outdated06:11
jaseyyeah it does06:11
_kuja_Apparantly they had their fill of fighting wxwidgets to get it to do what they needed it to do.06:11
jaseyit looks fine in Windows, but looks ugly on X06:12
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jaseylol06:12
ichidoi haven't tried it on windows06:12
binary2k2I just widh audacity used ALSA, don't care what it lookes like06:12
binary2k2*wish06:12
bobdediegowell guy, gtg, thx for the advice, I already changed some stuff :P06:12
jaseyme too06:12
jaseybye bye :)06:12
bobdediegotake care06:12
_kuja_later bobdediego06:12
RoKFiTuh jasey06:12
RoKFiTdo you know how to fix kaffeine06:12
jaseyif i knew what was wrong with it, yeah06:13
jaseylol06:13
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RoKFiTfor me it won't open since i installed vlc and tried to install w32codecs06:13
ichidolol06:13
RoKFiTit just doesn't open06:13
jaseyrun it from konsole and see what error messages it brings06:13
_kuja_try to open it in a terminal06:13
RoKFiTi did, and no errors came up06:13
jaseyoh06:13
RoKFiTyeah shitty06:13
_kuja_interesting06:13
jaseytry sudo apt-get install --reinstall kaffeine06:14
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kutohi06:14
ichidobut app doesn't start or it doesn't play the vids?06:14
jaseyi had a similar thing with amarok. a reinstall fixed it right up.06:14
jaseyhi huto06:14
jaseykuto*06:14
_kuja_in that case, sudo apt-get install --reinstall kaffeine06:14
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ichidohi kuto06:14
jaseyecho :P06:14
RoKFiTand jasey do you know how to install the w32 codecs for 6406:14
_kuja_they won't work, you'll need a 32-bit player06:15
RoKFiTbogus06:15
_kuja_Or, better, use a more up to date player (assuming all you're looking for is wmv9 playback)06:15
RoKFiTso just use vlc for now?06:15
jaseyi think i read somewhere people usually install win32codecs in a 32 bit installion of kubuntu and chroot into that one from the 64 bit version06:15
_kuja_You probably heard that a long time ago jasey, no need to resort to that now :)06:16
RoKFiTjasey that sounds way too complicated06:16
jaseyoh yay06:16
jaseyit isnt that complicated really. its just a major pain in the rhetorical bum.06:16
RoKFiTdoes it now?06:16
RoKFiTnot*?06:16
RoKFiThahah.06:16
_kuja_one moment06:16
_kuja_While I dig up one of the possibile solutions06:16
jaseywoo hoo06:16
binary2k2chroots aren't complicated IMO, just a pain in the A$$06:17
RoKFiTyeah the machine is running smooth now, just no side panel on the case!06:17
_kuja_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18897406:17
RoKFiTdo you guys use vlc?06:17
ichidoin the mplayer homepage you have the 64 bits of the w32codecs to download06:17
_kuja_Dapper only06:17
_kuja_I have VLC, that doesn't mean I actually use it.06:17
ichidohaven't tried them..... since I have a 32bit machine06:17
RoKFiT_kuja_: what do you use?06:17
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_kuja_Either Kaffeine or Mplayer (any frontend will do), depending on my mood, the day of the week, which side of the bed I woke up on, and the weather.06:18
RoKFiT_kuja_: and are you 32bit?06:18
_kuja_No06:18
jaseyyeah ive got vlc, just for windows media video. otherwise, its kaffeine all the way baby (looks at libxine seductively)06:18
RoKFiTdo you use jasey's method of chrooting to a 32bit world06:19
jaseyi dont do that lol06:19
_kuja_No, I haven't done that since Breezy06:19
RoKFiToh06:19
jaseyi just saw that on the ubuntu wiki, on the restrictedformats page06:19
RoKFiTwhy can't kaffeine just support wmv06:19
_kuja_It can06:19
_kuja_it will06:19
RoKFiTbut why doesn't it by default06:19
jaseyit does ^^06:20
jaseybecause its not a free format06:20
_kuja_The version in the repositories doesn't.06:20
_kuja_Microsoft Opened the specs on WMV9 because they plan on using it for something, like a DVD format or something06:20
RoKFiTsee but i'm new, i need something simple06:20
RoKFiTinstall and work06:20
RoKFiTthat is the kubuntu "idea"06:20
jaseylol06:20
JucatoRoKFiT: same reason Ubuntu doesn't have MP3 enabled by default06:20
RoKFiTwhatever, i now know how to setup the majority of things, and i'm learning06:21
RoKFiTsoon i'll have it memorized06:21
RoKFiThow many installs did it take you to remember simple things like how to mount a drive06:21
RoKFiTand edit fstab properly06:21
_kuja_As soon as the specs on WMV9 were opened, the FFMPEG devs implemented it, which means MPlayer, Xine, and others support it now.06:21
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RoKFiTtotem-xine was perfect under gnome for me06:22
_kuja_(Kaffeine uses Xine, another note, MPlayer 1.0RC1 and on has it implemented)06:22
Jucato_kuja_: of course, presuming that it will be opened in a way/license that is acceptable to the devs06:22
jaseykaffeine can use mplayer as well06:22
_kuja_via kmplayer06:22
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jaseyya06:22
gatsbyhey guys, its Admiral_Chicago here, anyone help with wireless06:23
ichidoas soon as wmv9 is the standard they are going to change something so only they can use "propertary features" or whatever to screw everyone else06:23
RoKFiTso the all-in-one player i should be using is...06:23
gatsbythe documetation isn't helping me much06:23
RoKFiTor what i should be using is... with... done....06:23
_kuja_ichido, but of course06:23
gatsbyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&highlight=4306+ndiswrapper06:23
gatsbyis teh link i'm followinf06:23
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AngryElfhey all -- i installed libxine-extracodecs, yet still, amarok doesn't like my mp3s......do i need to install something else?06:24
Jucatook this is weird... there once was a vlc-qt package?06:24
jaseywow06:24
_kuja_RoKFiT ... mplayer 1.0RC1 would work ... with the KMPlayer frointend it actually wouldn't be too bad either06:24
_kuja_And seeing as you can make Kaffeine use KMPlayer as a backend, you can have the best of all worlds :)06:24
jaseyyup06:25
RoKFiTawesome06:25
flaccidAngryElf: did you select the xine engine in amarok config06:25
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RoKFiTnow how do i do that?06:25
gatsbyJucato: can you help me out06:25
gatsbyits Admiral_Chicago06:25
jaseysudo aptitude install kmplayer06:25
Jucatogatsby: sorry, can't. don't know anything about wireless stuff06:25
Jucato!vlc-qt hoary06:25
AngryElfflaccid, default setting -- but reselected anyways06:25
gatsbyJucato: this is my 1st too06:25
RoKFiTnow what jasey?06:25
ubotuvlc-qt: Qt frontend for VLC (dummy legacy package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB06:26
malik__AngryElf: have u installed w32codecs?06:26
jaseyjust a tick06:26
flaccidwhat is the error message, AngryElf?06:26
_kuja_http://mplayerhq.hu download mplayer 1.0RC1 ... you'll have to compile it yourself, that is, unless you can find an up-to-date repo for it. Edgy only has version 1.0-pre806:26
jaseymp3 support isnt in win32codecs06:26
AngryElfunable to load some files06:26
binary2k2malik__: you don't need w32codecs for mp306:26
AngryElfmalik__, mplayer plays the files fine06:26
malik__okie sorry06:26
binary2k2ooh, kinda jumped on you there :p06:26
AngryElfsorry "some media could not be loaded (not playable)"06:26
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jaseyokay RoKFiT, after installing kmplayer and mplayer, open kaffeine (if you can), click Settings > Player Engine > Embedded MPlayer for KDE06:27
malik__amarok installs the support for mp3 by itself but some really old dodgy mp3 which were not properly made cant be plays06:27
flaccidAngryElf: does playing a wav or ogg vorg file with xine engine work?06:27
malik__i have same prob too...........but they are very few06:27
jaseyRoKFiT: did you try reinstalling kaffeine at all in this time?06:27
AngryElfi actually don't have any :-/06:27
binary2k2malik__: that's only on edgy tho06:27
flaccidmalik__: it doesn't06:27
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RoKFiTjasey: yes i did and i just tried to open kaffeine, and it didn't open06:27
jaseyoh06:28
RoKFiTis vlc messing with it?06:28
whiskyhi06:28
flaccidAngryElf: did you search? i would just goto #amarok and get help from the experts06:28
JucatoRoKFiT: and what happens if you try to run in from the command line?06:28
RoKFiTnothing06:28
_kuja_RoKFiT: sudo apt-get remove --purge kaffeine && sudo apt-get install kaffeine06:28
RoKFiTjust goes to the next line06:28
Jucatonothing launches?06:28
whiskykaffeine??06:28
jaseyyeah, try kuja's idea06:28
Jucatovery strange...06:28
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jaseypurging a bad config file may be the answer06:28
malik__AngryElf: are u usin edgy or?/06:28
jaseyalso, you could try this from Konsole: kaffeine --verbose06:29
RoKFiT_kuja_: done!06:29
RoKFiTnow what06:29
RoKFiTstart kaffeine06:29
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_kuja_yup06:29
AngryElfmalik__, dapper06:29
RoKFiTstill no-go06:29
_kuja_VERY odd06:29
RoKFiTyeah!06:29
jaseytry kaffeine --verbose in a terminal06:29
malik__ooh okie.........havew u tried files tab of the amarok to make it play those file?06:30
jaseyit should give you debugging info when before it crashes :P06:30
RoKFiTnothing happens06:30
_kuja_RoKFiT: what version of KDE/Kaffeine are you using?06:30
RoKFiTgoes to next line06:30
RoKFiTkde 3.5.506:30
flaccidbrb06:30
RoKFiTkaffeine i don't know06:30
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_kuja_on Dapper, or on Edgy?06:30
jaseyeven with --verbose ? weird :(06:30
RoKFiTEdgy06:30
_kuja_weird indeed.06:31
RoKFiTcandidate version 0.8.2-0ubuntu206:31
_kuja_One moment while I piece somethign together06:31
RoKFiTokay06:31
jaseyyou havent got a mixed up sources.list do you06:31
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RoKFiTi'm not sure06:31
malik__AngryElf: have u tried files tab of the amarok to make it play those file?06:31
jaseyokay, i can safely assume no then lol06:31
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RoKFiTi think i may have edited sources.list though06:32
RoKFiTbut edited it back06:32
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RoKFiTi enabled one repo that didn't work then i removed the line with a text editor06:32
malik__AngryElf: one more thing...........are those file present in ur collection tab in amarok?06:32
RoKFiTwhen attempting to install that w32 support for it06:32
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_kuja_RoKFiT, while I'm wrting the script, can you enable the source repos in your sources.list (for  main and universe at least)06:33
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eilkerNo module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled // is this normal ?06:33
AngryElfoh neat -- it fixed itself all by its merry self06:33
RoKFiT_kuja_: yes06:33
AngryElfall while reading the news :-/06:34
malik__yea sometime it does that06:34
AngryElfthanx anyways! :)06:34
jaseylol06:34
malik__np mate06:34
binary2k2eilker: what's that error from?06:34
jaseyxine must have just clicked, or something refreshed itself ^^06:34
RoKFiTall repos are enabled06:34
flaccidhaha thats xine-ui for ya, AngryElf!!06:35
eilkerbinary2k2: it is from syslog  //localhost kernel06:35
flaccidheh xine-ui is so shite06:35
jaseyabsolutely06:35
jaseylol06:35
flaccidactually i think i mean xinelib06:35
flaccidwell all of xine is wicked and then crap06:35
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binary2k2eilker: can you pastebin a few lines before and after it?06:36
binary2k2!pastebin06:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:36
AngryElfwhile i'm here -- is there any way to have playlists stored in the database?06:36
flaccidsure is06:37
flaccidwell yes iirc... read the amarok documentation06:37
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flaccidsorry AngryElf: the collection database setting is in amarok config | collection06:38
flaccidsqlite, postgresl, mysql06:38
eilkerbinary2k2: it is in fifth line http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36777/06:38
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AngryElfflaccid, yea, but by default that's only files, play count rating blah blah06:38
AngryElfnot the playlists i create06:38
malik__AngryElf: try playlis tab06:38
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RoKFiTwhere is _kuja_?06:41
binary2k2eilker: seems to be normal, I get that too06:41
_kuja_I'm working on it >.>06:41
flaccidoh, i don't think it does that yet, ask in #amarok06:41
eilkerbinary2k2: thank you very much for your interest, do u have this too // kdm_greet[5300] : Can't open default user face06:41
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_kuja_!pastebin06:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:43
binary2k2eilker: I don't get that error, but I do get another kdm_greet error06:43
eilkerbinary2k2: :) i see06:44
binary2k2eilker: as long as your system boot, and is working, you don't need to worry too much about the errors :p06:44
binary2k2eilker: I get a strange error: "kdm_greet[18084] : Internal error: memory corruption detected" but KDM works find :p06:45
binary2k2(and memtest86 says everything is fine too)06:45
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eilkerbinary2k2: i have it too:) the memory corruption06:45
eilkerbinary2k2: it boots slow...06:46
jpiccoloeww memory corruption06:46
_kuja_RoKFiT: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36778/06:46
binary2k2my system boots in 36 seconds, from poweron to KDM login :D06:46
binary2k2and this is on a 5 year old PC06:46
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_kuja_not bad for an old one ... mine does it in 19s06:47
eilkerbinary2k2: i have lamp server, ftp server, vmware server,nessus server etc, it boots nearly 90 seconds :D06:47
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RoKFiT_kuja_: run those commands individually?06:47
binary2k2well that's why then :p06:47
eilkerbinary2k2: ohh dhcp server too :D06:47
_kuja_You could do that, or you could dump it in a text file, chmod +x the file, and run it as a script06:48
binary2k2eilker: well the good thing about linux is you don't have to restart often06:48
eilkerbinary2k2: yess that is a great thing :)06:48
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binary2k2the only reason I restarted last was to clean the dust out of the case :p06:49
jpiccoloup 14 days06:49
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Unknow2007hello to all06:50
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_kuja_hello06:50
Unknow2007where are you from Kuja?06:50
binary2k210 days so far, average for me is about 40 days, because I get board and compile a kernal :p06:50
_kuja_VA, US06:51
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Unknow2007ok06:51
jpiccoloon your desktop pc or a server06:51
binary2k2desktop06:52
Unknow2007I have a question about aplication Mailer06:52
Unknow2007are have a program bulk mailer for linux06:52
Unknow2007?06:52
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Unknow2007ok06:53
RoKFiTokay _kuja_ what do i do now with that page?06:53
_kuja_With what page?06:53
RoKFiTthe page you sent me with all the script06:53
Unknow2007and other people doesn't about?06:53
RoKFiThttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36778/06:54
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RoKFiTthat one06:54
_kuja_Well, as we agreed, you can either run it one command at a time, or make a shell script out of it and have it do it all for you (recommended)06:54
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_kuja_Mine just finished compiling :)06:55
RoKFiTokay06:55
RoKFiTfrom the "text" section06:55
Unknow2007Somebody knows to say me, where I find a program that's bulk mailer?06:56
Unknow2007for linux06:56
matthewUnknow2007, nobody likes spam.06:57
_kuja_To make it a shell script: make a new file in kate, call it script.sh, copy the text in and save it, chmod +x script.sh, bash script.sh06:57
binary2k2!repeat | Unknow200706:57
ubotuUnknow2007: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:57
Unknow2007ok ubotu, and binary2k206:58
Unknow2007ok matthew06:58
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matthewUnknow2007, I'm sorry if you aren't going to send spam, but bulk mail, in my mind, is automatically spam.06:59
_kuja_well, newsletters could be considered bulk ... some of them are worth my time.07:00
binary2k2matthew, it could be for mailing lists07:00
Unknow2007understand you matthew. Don't question about it again.07:00
Unknow2007yes binary, it's mailing lists sender.07:00
matthewUnknow2007, sorry, my bad.07:00
binary2k2Unknow2007: you could ask in the general linux channel ##linux07:00
Unknow2007yes Kuja, I think so.07:01
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_kuja_RoKFiT, how's that script going for you?07:02
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EndlerI seem to have lost the icons that normally appear to the left of each shutdown option.  Buttons and text (Shutdown, reboot, etc.) are all there, but no icons on the left.07:03
EndlerIcons are working normally everywhere else.07:03
_kuja_Endler: weird, have you done anything recently that you think might have affected it?07:04
EndlerWell, it's not my system.  I set it up but don't use it too often.  I did change the icon theme, but it's the same one I use on all my other machines, and icons still appear on the shutdown menus of all those machines.07:05
RoKFiT_kuja_: i'm going to do it in a minute07:05
RoKFiTpossibly tomorrow07:05
RoKFiTi'm just about to watch a football match, aka soccer07:06
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_kuja_endler, perhaps try changing the icon theme, take a look, then change it back?07:06
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EndlerI'm not on that machine right now, but I'll try that.  The really funny part is that icons work 100% in every other place, and the fact that that icon set defiantly includes the icons.07:08
EndlerI thought maybe there was a place in kcontrol to say whether or not you want icons on the shutdown menu.  Not sure why anyone would want to turn them off just there though.07:09
_kuja_Yeah .l07:09
_kuja_**it's weird07:09
RoKFiTyeah _kuja_ thank you for the help, i'll bbl07:09
JucatoEndler: System Settings -> Appearance -> Style -> enable "Show icons on buttons" (may require a logout to take effect)07:10
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EndlerHmm, you'd think that would apply system-wide, not just on the shutdown menu, but maybe it is any other places just aren't using icons on the buttons.07:12
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rocky123hello everybody07:13
rocky123can anybody help me with video4linux07:13
JucatoEndler: you can check if other buttons like OK, Save, Cancel, Open, etc. have buttons on them07:13
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EndlerMaybe I just didn't notice because it only applies to KDE apps.07:15
rocky123can anybody tell me which version of video4linux is installed with the edgy kernel 2.6.10.-generic07:15
xsachaanyone know if kvm (will) supports 64-bit?07:17
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jpiccolodo i need all the cds to install slack?07:17
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flaccidi gtg07:18
Jucatojpiccolo: errr... wrong channel?07:18
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EndlerHey, It's easy to do :)07:19
jpiccolowell i was just wondering07:19
EndlerEsp if you use Konversaton and the scroll wheel a lot.   If you dip a little too low, it scrolls the chatroom tab, lol.07:20
Jucatoyeah07:21
jpiccoloyeah amarok and kaffiene do that all the time to me07:21
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ichidojpiccolo: I always used 1 cd only.. but I haven't installed one since slack 9.107:22
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EndlerI don't think having the scroll wheel cycle though the tabs is such a good idea.  I'll bet you can turn that off somewhere though.07:22
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jpiccolook, yeah will get cd 1 now, and other ones later if needed07:23
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JucatoEndler: it's the default for all of KDE07:24
musyaeverytime i try and ssh into my machine it says connection refused, and i have ssh installed and my firewall settings are all fine what should i do? or try?07:25
EndlerOh, does that behavior every come in handy in any KDE app?07:25
notechis the ssh server running?07:25
Endlerever07:25
Jucatoyes07:25
EndlerWhich ones?07:25
Jucatofor me it does. Konqueror, desktop, even Konvi07:25
Jucatoscroll wheel to cycle07:26
Jucatothrough stuff07:26
Jucatoeven works on the taskbar07:26
DaveQBmusya nmap scan the machine to make sure port 22 is open for a start07:26
EndlerSeems to me it would only be handy if the tabs themselves were not visible to go direct to them.07:27
musyaDaveQBhow do i make sure its open? and how do i open the port?07:27
notechmusya: netstat -natlp | grep ssh07:27
EndlerMay its just because I always have a zillion of everything open at the same time, and I don't want to see all the shit I'm not trying to get to fly by.07:28
musyanotech: it still wont ssh, i did what you said07:28
EndlerMight work better on more manable lists :)07:28
DaveQBmusya  I was suggesting scanning from an the box your trying to connect FROM, but notech's idea will work07:28
DaveQBmusya  what was the result ?07:29
notechmusya: but did the command return anything?07:29
musyanope just gave me a new command line07:29
JucatoEndler: that's your choice, and you can click on the tabs. but sometimes I want to browse through the tabs in succession and I don't want to have to click on each one07:29
notechmusya: the ssh server is not running then07:29
musyauh, how do i turn it on, i just typed in ssh and i got that it was installed but how do i start it?07:30
notechmusya: that was run on the box you trying to ssh into, right?07:30
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musyayea07:30
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binary2k2musya: do you goe anything if you type "pidof sshd" ?07:30
DaveQBnotech i didnt get anything either with that command, yet I am definately ssh in on the box I tried07:30
notechmusya: i'm not sure of the ssh server package name for kubuntu, someone else will know07:30
binary2k2I think you need sudo before netstat07:31
musyabinary2k2: no, just a new command line07:31
musyayea i did do sudo07:31
EndlerI suppose it can be useful if you're actually doing it intentionally :D07:31
DaveQBits installed right ?07:31
binary2k2musya: try "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start"07:32
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musyashould i just look for a new ssh package?07:32
musyaok 1 sec07:32
shan`:S i screwed up07:32
DaveQBit should of started if not try binary2k2's command07:32
shan`lol07:32
notechDaveQB: wierd, wonder why netstat didn't show it07:32
shan`grub is looking at a windows install at hd0,0 which i deleted but i want it to look at another install which is at hd0,107:32
DaveQBnotech  not sure, I have hardly used netstat so cant say,07:33
musyabinary2k2: i typed it in i got that the command was not found07:33
DaveQBa command i want to learn more07:33
binary2k2musya: what package did you install ?07:33
DaveQBmusya  "sudo ls /etc/init.d/s*"07:33
binary2k2you don't nees sudo for "ls"07:33
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DaveQBbinary2k2  you might if the dir is 60007:34
shan`how do i edit grub?07:34
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Jucatoshan`: edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file07:34
musyaDaveQB: i got this07:34
musya/etc/init.d/screen    /etc/init.d/skeleton        /etc/init.d/sysklogd07:34
musya/etc/init.d/sendsigs  /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd07:34
musya/etc/init.d/single    /etc/init.d/stop-readahead07:34
Admiral_Chicagoi set up ndiswrapper wrong07:34
binary2k2DaveQB: but i know init.d isn't :p07:34
musyabinary2k2: no i didnt install anything07:34
DaveQBshan`  sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst i think07:34
Admiral_Chicagois there a way i can just remove the data associated with it without removing the packagae?07:34
DaveQBmusya  no ssh installed then07:34
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Admiral_Chicago!pante | musya07:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pante - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:34
DaveQBmusya  sudo apt-get install ssh07:34
Admiral_Chicago!paste | musya07:34
ubotumusya: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:34
binary2k2musya: sudo apt-get install ssh07:34
binary2k2musya: that will install ssh07:35
DaveQByeah, what i said :)07:35
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musyaok ill install it 1 sec, and sorry for flooding07:35
notechAdmiral_Chicago: 3 lines of paste is too much here? the bot does that much quite often07:35
DaveQByou could of tried dpkg -l ssh musya but we have already proven its not installed07:35
binary2k2^^ I was going to say that too07:36
binary2k2well dpkg -l | grep ssh07:36
DaveQBjust dpkg -l ssh is fine though07:37
Admiral_Chicagodidn't know how much you were using sorry07:37
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EndlerOh, btw, my shutdown hang problem turned out to be splashy using a framebuffer mode higher than the videocard supported.  Interestingly enough Kubuntu doesn't use a vga= command in grub by default.  It must try to autodetect what your card can handle and guessed wrong.07:37
notechAdmiral_Chicago: what is the limit for lines here?07:37
musyaha! ok i installed it and it works now, sorry that was an easy one, thanks guys though07:37
DaveQBnoworries musya07:38
binary2k2musya: no problem :D07:38
musyathanks07:38
Admiral_Chicagonotech: no real limit, depends on the number of users, lot of activity, very few07:38
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notechAdmiral_Chicago: ok, thanks. thought there might be a specified limit. :)07:39
Admiral_Chicagonope07:39
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xsachaeveryone here heard about kvm? anyone tried it?07:40
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rocky123can anybody tell me which version of video4linux is installed with the edgy kernel 2.6.10.-generic07:41
bgsteffensHello everyone, can someone tell me the easiest way to burn an image file to a disc in a fresh install of Kubuntu edgy?07:41
DaveQBbgsteffens use K3B07:41
EndlerI think a lot of people that think they have a problem with acpi are really having a problem with splash trying to use an usupported framebuffer mode on shutdown.07:42
bgsteffensDaveQB: is that prepackaged with kubuntu or do i download it?07:42
DaveQBxsacha Keyboard Video Mouse ?07:42
DaveQBbgsteffens  not sure. Should be in Kmenu > Multimedia07:42
xsachaDaveQB: no :P the new virtualisation in kernel07:42
naught101bgsteffens: open is in k3b07:42
naught101open *it*07:42
bgsteffensoh awesome thank you07:42
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xsachaDaveQB: KVM (Kernel-based Virtual Machine for Linux)07:44
xsachawill be in 2.6.2007:45
EndlerK3B has been rock solid for me whereever I've used it.  I think it's the only burning program for either Windows or Linux that has never once created a coaster for me.07:45
xsachathe backend cdrecorder created a few coasters for me :(07:45
binary2k2that's the beauty of CD-RWs :p07:46
EndlerI think it has for me too, but not when accessed via K3B.  It might have something to do with it requesting access to run with extended privileges when you first install it.07:47
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Admiral_Chicago/msg Admiral_Chicago07:50
Admiral_Chicago##KDE 3.5.5 Repo07:50
Admiral_Chicagodeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 edgy main07:50
Jucato?07:51
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dettoaltrimentiin irc, how do I get a list of all channels?07:53
gatsby!restricted07:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:53
binary2k2dettoaltrimenti: /list07:53
dettoaltrimentithanks binary2k207:53
binary2k2:)07:54
thoreauputicdettoalt1imenti: be aware, the /list command will list thousands of channels07:54
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binary2k2konversation will warn you first07:54
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gatsby!easysource07:59
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".07:59
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DaveQBhow does one tunnel a wget download through to their home server using ssh ?08:01
DaveQBexamples I have read dont work08:01
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binary2k2DaveQB: how about just ssh to the home server and running wget from there?08:02
DaveQBbut then I have to transfer again using scp08:02
DaveQB2 downloads essentially08:02
DaveQBI want 1 download on the home server that dumps the file to me here, at work, in one command08:03
binary2k2is the work pc running linux?08:03
DaveQBa pipe might work, but I thought an ssh tunnel created here at work that I can connect to to tunnel past our firewall here08:03
DaveQBcygwin08:03
binary2k2ah08:03
DaveQBi read ssh -D 1010 username@remoteip08:04
DaveQBto create a local SOCKS proxy on port 1010 ,but connection to it with firefox fails08:04
DaveQBs/connection/connecting08:05
binary2k2I have no clue08:06
DaveQBhaha08:06
DaveQBhttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/tag/commands/08:06
DaveQBDoes it work for you ?08:06
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binary2k2DaveQB: can't get it to work for me08:10
DaveQBhmmm bugger08:10
binary2k2but I do have some funkey firewall rules :p08:10
binary2k2try with a high port. i.e. > 102408:11
binary2k2ports 1-1024 require root to bind08:11
thoreauputicthe usual socks port is 1080 if I recall correctly08:11
thoreauputicnot that it should matter as long as it's > 102408:11
DaveQBi'll give it a try08:13
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eMaXmoin moin08:14
thoreauputicwiki wiki !08:15
thoreauputic;)08:15
EndlerSSH tunneling can get confusing, but when it also works slicker than shit once you figure out a way to use it for a particular situation.   A bunch of example solutions for different scenarios in the SSH man would be a VERY welcome and useful addition.08:16
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eMaXwhy does ubuntu create a agroup with the username whenever I create a user08:17
EndlerSo you can have groupies :)08:18
thoreauputicEndler: tsocks is a nice way to socksify *everything* :)08:18
JucatoeMaX: that's the standard in Linux, iirc08:18
thoreauputiceMaX: that's the Debian Way (tm)08:18
binary2k2eMaX: because ubuntu uses personal groups08:18
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thoreauputicJucato: no, some distros use "users" etc08:18
eMaXwhat is the reason for a group that has only one member08:18
Jucatoah yeah08:18
binary2k2i.e. a user has there own goup08:19
thoreauputiceMaX: enables you to restrict / allow on the basis of the user group rather than a generic group08:19
EndlerIn case you want to share files with a select members of your choosing.08:19
eMaXso you say thisis now the standard linux (tm) way?08:20
eMaXjust that I don't recreate a "users" groupp08:20
binary2k2it's the standard 'debian way (tm)'08:20
thoreauputiceMaX: no, it's not standard - as I said, it comes from Debian in Ubuntu's case08:21
eMaXok. as I am now using deb/ubuntu, I'm going to adhere to that08:21
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thoreauputiceMaX: you can of course create groups, add users to groups etc etc08:22
thoreauputicassuming you are the admin/sudo/root user :)08:22
eMaXwhat is the ubuntu equivalent of profile.local in SuSE08:23
thoreauputicnever used SuSE....08:23
binary2k2maybe /etc/profile08:24
thoreauputicwhat does profile.local do ?08:24
binary2k2guess from the name08:24
eMaXok bash.bashrc seems to work08:24
eMaXjust for environmen settings08:24
thoreauputicah08:24
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thoreauputic /etc/profile is usual - bash,bashrc would work too08:24
binary2k2well all /etc/profile dose is source /etc/bash.bashrc anyway08:24
thoreauputicright08:25
paoloHow. is it possibile to auto-mount a cd when inserted?08:25
paoloHi :). is it possibile to auto-mount a cd when inserted?08:25
Endlerthoreauputic, does tsocks address the encryption issue at all or do you still need to run it through a ssh tunnel08:25
thoreauputicEndler: tsocks is used in conjunction with ssh ( at least, that's how I use it)08:26
notechpaolo: you don't mean a music cd, do you?08:26
EndlerOh, OK.  I figured as much.08:26
paolonotech: a data cd, no music08:26
EndlerI'll check it out.08:26
thoreauputicEndler: once the tunnel is set up, using tsocks allows you to run commands through it08:27
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notechpaolo: ah. i'm sure it is, other distro's can. sorry, i don't know how though. heh08:27
chupieusing smbmount ... how do i specify a user and password when mounting a network drive?08:27
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paolo:(08:28
paolo(thanks, anyway)08:28
binary2k2chupie: like: [service]  [mountpoint]  -o username=user,password=pass08:29
binary2k2chupie: check out man smbmount08:29
chupiek08:29
thoreauputicEndler: for instance, ssh -NfD 1080 user@host.org ; tsocks firefox  <-- browse through an ssh tunnel with the IP address of host.org08:30
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EndlerDo you run any remote desktop through shh.  I use krfb/krdc through an ssh tunnel and it works ok, but it sense that I have a fast cable connection and will only let me choose fast connection.  Medium and slow are grayed out.  The only problem is that cable is only fast in one direction and when you you are hampered by the slow upload speed.08:31
thoreauputicEndler: check out freenx08:31
thoreauputic!freenx08:32
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX08:32
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binary2k2the NoMachine server for linux is now free, so you can use that08:33
thoreauputicbinary2k2: permanently? Used to be just for testing....08:33
EndlerSound good.  I'll give that a shot too :D.  Is it a lot more efficient about it sends over that wire than K remote desktop?08:33
thoreauputicbinary2k2: ah sorry i misunderstood08:34
thoreauputicbinary2k2: thought you meant the online test site08:34
thoreauputicEndler: orders of magnitude better08:34
binary2k2thoreauputic: no, the actual server you install08:34
thoreauputicbinary2k2: yup, as I said i misunderstood - go it now :)08:35
thoreauputic*got it08:35
eMaXwow. oracle works. pfffew.08:35
EndlerKRD keeps sending the same wallpaper image back and forth instead of caching it, for example.08:35
binary2k2don't know if FreeNX is bein maintained now that the server is free08:35
thoreauputicEndler: freenx doesn't do the round trip thing08:35
thoreauputicEndler: try it - it rocks08:36
thoreauputicor NX or whatever - as binary2k2 says, it's free08:36
EndlerI definitely will :)  Thanks.08:36
EndlerI'm glad I asked.08:36
thoreauputicbinary2k2: free as in Freedom or only as in Beer?08:36
binary2k2beer08:36
thoreauputicbinary2k2: right08:37
binary2k2(I think)08:37
binary2k2dunno actually08:37
thoreauputicbinary2k2: freenx is Free08:37
binary2k2I know freenx is free, the clue is in the name :p08:39
EndlerGoodnight everyone.08:40
thoreauputichmm #kubuntu reminds me of the way #ubuntu was in the warty/hoary era :) #ubuntu is just too big and too full of *very* new people now...08:40
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thoreauputicbinary2k2: heh, yeah "freenx" is kind of obvious, sorry :)08:40
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eMaXre08:41
binary2k2I used it before the nomachine server became free08:41
binary2k2worked very well too, as i recall08:41
thoreauputicbinary2k2: yah, it did - after all I think the code is probably pretty much the same08:42
eMaXI wonder why ubuntu per default enters my gateway as dns server.08:43
eMaXI don't want that as it is very slow working as  a dns server08:43
thoreauputiceMaX: because dhclient queries your router08:43
eMaXin wlassistant I set "manually" to ip address etc. so no dhcp08:44
thoreauputiceMaX: most routers can be configured to use manual dns settings08:44
eMaXnevertheless dhcp is running08:44
eMaXi mean dhclient08:44
thoreauputiceMaX: do you have static Ips in /etc/network/interfaces ?08:45
thoreauputicif you have "inet dhcp" dhcp will be used08:45
eMaXwhen I use wlassistant to disconnect and reconnect, it sets my nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf08:46
eMaXwhen I use wlassistant to disconnect and reconnect, it sets my nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf08:46
thoreauputiceMaX: as i said, that means the dhcp server on the router is setting your DNS up - it needs to be configured at the router08:47
thoreauputici.e. your router is overwriting your /etc/resolv.conf08:48
eMaXyes but you know, I now have to start wlassistant every time I want to overwrite that setting, disconnect and then reconnect.08:48
chupiehmm... i could add some debian package mirrors to the apt-get mirror file couldn't i?08:49
thoreauputiceMaX: have a look at the config for dhclient then - something like /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf08:49
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thoreauputiceMaX: one hackish way to stop it is to make /etc/resolv.conf not writable ( sudo chmod -w /etc/resolv.conf )08:50
eMaXtn08:50
eMaXx08:50
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eMaXre08:54
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paoloHi.. I've edited fstab and changed noauto to auto for the cdrom; however it doesn't mount automatically the cdrom yet...09:21
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KomiaPoikapaolo auto only applies at boot09:23
thoreauputicpaolo: wrong option09:23
thoreauputicpaolo: auto means 'mount this on boot" as KomiaPoika says09:24
paoloi see. so, which is the correct options to auto mount a cdrom when inserted?09:24
thoreauputicpaolo: you aren't trying to mount an audio CD, are you ?09:24
paolono: a data cd09:24
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thoreauputicFor KDE i don't know - in gnome it just works09:25
thoreauputicpaolo: the ivman package will do it, but I would have thought KDE had it built in somehow09:26
paolothoreauputic, so I have to install this package?09:26
thoreauputicpaolo: sorry, I only have KDE on my laptop ( currently using desktop)09:26
paolothoreauputic, I'm using icewm09:27
thoreauputicpaolo: ah09:27
thoreauputicpaolo: install ivman and read the man page then09:27
Jucatopaolo: this is the default line for the CD Writer on my system: /dev/hdc /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 009:27
JucatoI think pmount also handles that?09:28
thoreauputicpaolo: it isn't an /etc/fstab thing09:28
thoreauputicJucato: yes, but that isn't automatic - ivman is09:28
thoreauputicI guess it uses pmount though09:28
Jucatothoreauputic: I don't have ivman installed, but everything is automatic. maybe they replaced ivman with pmount?09:29
thoreauputicpaolo: auto mount is a desktop environamnet thing, so if you use another wm you need ivman09:29
thoreauputicJucato: are you running KDE?09:29
Jucatoyes09:29
thoreauputicJucato: that's why09:29
thoreauputicJucato: paolo is running icewm09:29
paolothoreauputic, well, more exactly i'm using rox-filer on icewm09:30
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paolobut i've found a tip: let's try09:30
thoreauputicpaolo: ivman won't pop up an icon, but it should do the mounting for you09:30
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Jucatoyou mean pmount won't work on anything but KDE?09:30
paoloi'll be back soon09:30
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thoreauputicpaolo: in rox-filer you can just go to /media and click to mount anyway09:30
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thoreauputicJucato: no, I mean KDE has a fancy automount function ( that probably uses pmount as one of its backends)09:31
thoreauputicJucato: pmount will work even without X09:32
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Jucatomeaning, he can use it with icewm too09:33
thoreauputicJucato: I use fluxbox and I run ivman in my fluxbox start script to enable usb and other automount functions09:33
Jucatooh..09:33
Jucatow/ or w/o pmount?09:33
thoreauputicJucato: of course - but pmount is a *command* not an automatic mounter in itself09:33
thoreauputicJucato: you are confusing two levels of functionality here09:34
Jucatoah09:34
thoreauputic:)09:34
Jucatoyep.. apparently :)09:34
Jucatoall I know is HAL+pmount = no worries :)09:34
Jucato(talking about packages here)09:35
thoreauputicas I said though, rox-filer mounts on click anyway, although ivman makes it aware of usb disks etc09:35
thoreauputicie. with ivman running, clicking on /media/usbdisk or whatever will access the device09:36
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jakub_what's the PAM module for preventing root from seeing network profiles? i.e. a network user logs in with a home directory mounted as /mnt/home/netuser, root doesn't have access `find /mnt/home/netuser`09:36
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tamacrackerGuys? How come every time I watch a video online... say from Youtube, myspace, google etc... the sound and video freezes and the sound is like a broken record that keeps repeating over and over?09:44
eMaXre09:44
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reldruhtamacracker: that sounds like a flash problem. Have you tried reinstalling it?09:45
tamacrackerI have not...09:45
reldruhit couldn't hurt09:46
tamacrackeralright ill see what I can do.09:46
reldruhand maybe try the updated flash 9?09:46
reldruhI think it's still in beta, but it's working great for me09:46
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thoreauputicthe beta flash player is also alsa aware, which is nice ( no fighting for the sound device)09:48
eMaX_re09:48
eMaX_a package tells me that libqt3-mt >= 3:3.3.7 is needed, yet 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 be installed. What can I do09:48
thoreauputiceMaX: what package ?09:48
thoreauputiceMaX: hello? what are you installing?09:50
eMaX_ok sorry was able to solve it with --force-depends-version. needed to install tora with oracle support09:50
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eMaX_how can I add to LD_LIBRARY_PATH so that this is taken for each program I start from kde as a normal user?09:54
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eMaX_how can I exclude one given package from the update manager? I don't want to update a given package that I've installed manually and that now the packager thinks to be broken. Is there something like an ignore flag?09:57
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Ignite_Is it possible to upgrade to OpenOffice.org 2.1?09:57
Ignite_Cleanly I mean.09:58
Ignite_:)09:58
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reldruhIgnite_: it's probably best to wait until it gets into the repositories. I'm no expert, but I think that's the best way and it doesn't usually take long for it to get in there09:59
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Ignite_I was thinking because it's a minor (major.minor.micro) release it wouldn't be in the repos until feisty fawn.10:00
eMaX_is there a way to exclude a package from the update manager?10:01
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reldruhIgnite_: I think it'll be there before then10:02
reldruhis there a feature in it that you really need?10:02
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reldruhhas anybody here played with kde4 at all?10:06
eMaX_?10:08
reldruheMaX_: I don't know if there's a way to exclude a package10:08
Admiral_Chicagoreldruh: i know some people that have but they are all asleep10:09
matthewhow can I install KDE4?10:11
reldruhAdmiral_Chicago: too bad. I was curious what it was like. I know the major parts of the new gui aren't really ready yet, but I was wondering what changes are already visible10:11
reldruhmatthew: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php10:11
reldruhthat's a set of instructions for the latest developer snapshsot10:11
Admiral_Chicagoreldruh: as i understand it, a lot is under the cover stuff10:11
Jucatovisual changes are very, very minimal, almost not noticeable, in the latest snapshot released for Kubuntu10:11
reldruhare the applications faster, though?10:11
reldruhthe ones that have been ported?10:11
Jucatoemphasis on the "developer" snapshot10:11
Admiral_Chicagoreldruh: i heard they are10:11
reldruhmmm... good point10:11
Admiral_Chicagovery fast10:11
matthewreldruh, thanks.10:11
Admiral_Chicagoanyways I have a paper10:11
reldruhdoes phonon happen to be in a workable state? I'd love to see new sound stuff in linux10:11
Jucatoit's not something that users can use already, or can observe. the developer snapshots are not meant as demos but something that developers would be able to use in developing KDE4 apps10:11
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MHKhi all10:12
reldruhimpatience go the best of me10:12
reldruhMHK: hi :-)10:13
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MHKreldruh: hi =) what's going on?10:14
reldruhMHK: nothing much in here10:15
reldruhwe were just talking about kde4 and how it wasn't ready for people to use yet10:15
MHKlol10:15
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MHKwell, i'm really looking forward to kde crash10:15
reldruhMHK: isn't that already out?10:16
Jucato"not ready for user-type people to use yet"10:16
Jucatodeveloper-people can most certainly use it already...10:16
matthewMHK, ok, so, what's "plasma"?10:16
Jucatokrash = nickname given to the developer snapshots of KDE 4 (KDE 3.80.x10:17
Jucatomatthew: http://plasma.kde.org10:17
matthewJucato, thank you10:17
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reldruhI wish those websites were kept more up to date10:17
gan|y|medgood morning10:17
MHKwell, in the end i only need two things: xine and my browser. maybe also konversation10:17
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MHKplasma.kde.org is... somewhat empty... no screenshots etc.10:18
twosouls82imbrandon: your site is down, due to a misconfiguration; 'error id: "bad_httpd_conf"'10:19
Jucatothey weren't meant to contain screenshots anyway10:19
reldruhMHK: not even a roadmap like on the other ones10:19
MHKcrap..10:19
Jucatothe real "action" goes behinds the scenes (at least for the other KDE4 projects)10:19
eMaX_my problem is that I manually forced to install a package "tora" which requires libqt3-mt >= 3.3.7 while I have 3.3.6 installed. The package works and I want to keep it that way. yet the package manager now tells me that the package is broken and wants to "fix" it by installing the tora version from the repository that I do not want, as it does not have oracle support.10:19
MHKguess, will migrate to gentoo then. everything will be faster10:19
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bgsteffenswhat is that command similar to 'sudo' but that can be run in Konsole? it starts with a k i think.. maybe 5 letters.. k____ kate /etc/....10:19
Jucatoif you really want to keep up to date, read mailing lists, commit-digets, dot.kde.org10:20
Jucatobgsteffens: kdesu10:20
MHKkdesu10:20
bgsteffenstyty :)10:20
MHKJucato: i want results! =D10:20
JucatoMHK: good luck. even if you use Gentoo now, you still won't have KDE 410:20
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MHKJucato: i know, but when it's released i think about to migrate...10:21
MHKdamned, my teacher is back...10:21
MHKcu10:21
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Jucatohe even got his /quit "joke"  wrong10:22
JucatoAlt+Q does nothing...10:22
Jucatohe needs Ctrl+Q10:22
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malik__kedit?10:26
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malik__ksudo?10:27
Jucatoolder KDE text editor. Kate is newer10:27
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malik__!kdsudo10:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdsudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:27
Jucatomalik__: he already had his answer. it's kdesu10:27
matthew!kdesu10:28
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo10:28
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malik__thats oki i was just tryin to find it for myself as i saw it somewhere yesterday:)10:28
snapyhello I would like to know what is the KDE way to share a desktop via VNC.  Somehow it has disappeared from my KDE menu10:29
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stamenhi10:31
lupine_85weird... I can ssh to my remote server, but trying to set up a subversion repo accessible via ssh is saying access denied (publickey authentication). Any ideas, anyone?10:31
stamena problem with edgy again10:31
lupine_85erm, access denied when I svn co from the local machine10:31
matthewstamen, what's up?10:31
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stamenit didn't activate on startup the SWAP10:32
stamenand the hardware problems10:32
matthewstamen, sudo swapon -a10:32
matthewthat should work10:32
stamenand the hardware drivers I mean, soory10:32
stamenok10:32
matthewthe swap or the raid?10:32
stamenand the LVM something10:32
matthew!LVM10:33
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO10:33
stamenI have only SATA drive10:33
lupine_85!subversion10:33
ubotusubversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion10:33
stamenok I will see now10:33
stamenmatthew: thanks for now10:33
stamen:)10:33
KabalHello all,10:33
KabalI'm trying to install PSP Video Converter (pspvc)10:33
KabalBut when I try to install I get this.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36804/10:33
Kabalwho can help me? :)10:33
stamenI will try the tips which you gave me10:33
matthewyay!10:33
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stamenmatthew: after doing this command sudo swapon -a will it be permanent10:34
stamennot to write it again and again10:34
matthewI think so. It was perm for me10:34
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stamenok10:34
matthewif not, you can add the command to xinitrc10:34
matthewI think10:34
stamenswapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/a3704e1e-197b-444b-931e-e6a57aafbc91: Invalid argument10:34
matthewok, gimme a sec10:35
matthewtry sudo swapon /dev/device_name10:35
stamenok10:35
wiking_how to configure Picasa to show images full screen, not to fit screen ( http://81.198.237.8/Screenshot.png )10:36
crazy_penguinDBO: may I bother you with a question?10:36
matthewstamen, did it work?10:36
stamenmatthew: waht I see after df -h is very strange for me10:36
eMaX_re - anyone here who can help me on how to tell my package manager to ignore one given package?10:36
stamenas i see on the place where should10:36
matthewstamen, what does df -h do?10:36
stamenit be the swap there is shm10:36
stamendev/shm10:37
stamenis this somthing new?10:37
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matthewstamen, don't you have the swap on the physical hard drive?10:37
matthewstamen, I've never heard of shm.10:38
stamenI made it and it was before upgrading10:38
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stamenthat is realy strange10:38
stamenthere is varlock10:38
stamenvarrun10:38
stamenprocbususb10:38
matthewstamen, what is the partition no. of the swap partition?10:39
stamenit didn't appear10:39
stamenthat is very strange for me10:39
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stamenand now I must fix this too :(10:39
matthewstamen, try mkswap /dev/device_name10:39
stamenok10:40
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matthewstamen, how'd that work?10:40
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stamenwait10:41
matthewk10:41
crazy_penguincan someone tell if i need more then the recipient (the users who i want to be able to receive mail thru the server) account in the postfix chroot passwd file ?10:41
krautmoin10:41
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stamenmatthew: I made it swap again :)10:42
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stamenmatthew: now I will try with other command10:42
matthewyay! It worked?10:42
stamenwait10:42
matthewok10:42
stamenit works :)10:43
stamenthank you very much10:43
matthewstamen, very cool10:44
stamenbut now the problem still stay with the other partitions10:44
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matthewstamen, have you changed your fstab?10:44
stamenno10:44
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matthew!pastebin | stamen10:45
ubotustamen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:45
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matthewpaste your fstab on pastebin10:45
stamenmatthew: what was the address10:45
stamenmatthew: for pastebin10:45
matthewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:45
matthewpaste it as stamen10:46
stamenmatthew: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36806/10:46
stamenmatthew: as I see it has modifyied itself10:46
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stamenmatthew: there are UID10:47
matthewI see, was the text "converted during upgrade to edgy" included, or did you add that yourself?10:47
shenmue!lftp10:48
ubotulftp: Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0-1 (edgy), package size 349 kB, installed size 1364 kB10:48
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Admiral_Chicagomatthew: automatically by ubuntu10:48
Admiral_Chicagomakes for a more robust fstab10:48
stamenmatthew: I think kubuntu did it10:49
Admiral_Chicagodon't know why10:49
Jucato!UUID10:49
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)10:49
Admiral_ChicagoJucato ftw.10:49
Jucato:)10:49
stamenAdmiral_Chicago: will work the older fstab which I have in backup10:49
matthewJucato, FTW10:49
matthewfor sure10:49
Admiral_Chicagostamen: that's shouldn't be the problem10:49
Admiral_Chicagowhat is the problem anyhow10:49
matthewstamen, I've got no idea...anyone else know?10:49
Jucatostamen: it should work, /dev or UUID10:50
stamenwhawt is ->Jucato, FTW10:50
Admiral_ChicagoFor the win10:50
stamenaaa10:50
Jucato:P10:50
stamen:)10:50
abattoirJucato FTW too10:50
stamenso windows can see it?10:50
Jucatolol hi abattoir!10:51
abattoirhi Jucato :)10:51
Admiral_Chicago??10:51
Jucatowindows can't see ext3 or swap partitions10:51
matthewWindows Native can't see anything but FAT, FAT 16, FAT 32, and NTFS10:51
matthewI think10:51
snpz^wrkis there any LiveCD available with 2.6.19 kernel included?10:51
Admiral_Chicagothere is a guide somewhere online10:52
snpz^wrkJucato, ext2fs10:52
Admiral_Chicagosnpz^wrk: maybe Feisty10:52
cpk1Jucato: err yo can get windows to see ext2 so it sould be able to see ext310:52
snpz^wrkExplore2Fs10:52
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Admiral_Chicago!feisty10:52
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+110:52
snpz^wrki mean10:52
Jucatosnpz^wrk, cpk1: of course, but not by default10:52
lenscape!aria210:52
cpk1excuse poor spelling10:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aria2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:52
snpz^wrkjup10:52
cpk1keyboard acting up10:53
snpz^wrkAdmiral_Chicago, i will take a look10:53
lenscapeanyone know where I can find a .deb for this? http://aria2.sourceforge.net/10:54
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snpz^wrkhttp://tuxoblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/aria2-packages.html10:58
oslolenscape> do you have try http://dl030.filefactory.com/dl/f/657c41/b/6/h/b5b469e26a46ff3f/ i get it following the package link from your url10:58
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matthewgood night, everyone10:58
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lenscapeoslo: Thanks. I didn't see that link11:00
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AnalogManHello11:03
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sercikheila!!!11:04
sercikhow are you all!11:05
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AnalogManTroubled11:05
sercikin linux is normal11:05
eMaX_ne1 knows how to exclude a package from the package database / auto update?11:05
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sercikonly in windows all is simple but you can't do anithing!11:05
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AnalogManOkay, then what can I do with my problem?11:06
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thoreauputiceMaX_: you can do (in terminal)  sudo aptitude hold <name-of-package> to stop it being upgraded11:07
bernielivehi all11:08
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bernielivenew to linux how do i install programs?11:08
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thoreauputic!adept11:09
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto11:09
bernielivethanks11:09
thoreauputicbernielive: read that - you might also install synaptic ( it is more advanced in some ways)11:10
thoreauputic!repos| bernielive11:10
ubotubernielive: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:10
thoreauputic!synaptic| bernielive11:11
ubotubernielive: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto11:11
thoreauputicbernielive: adept and synaptic do the same things really - synaptic is probably more adaptable, and the command line apt and aptitude are the back ends for both11:12
sercikif you want to install program you can use apt-get install "program" if you know the name11:12
sercikor you can use synaptic or adept_manager graphic interface11:12
bernielivethanks serik all noted11:12
serciki Like synapticbut is not default installed on kubuntu to do that open a konsole and type sudo apt-get install synzptic11:13
bernielivethanks thoreauputic11:13
sercikbernielive: pm me11:13
thoreauputicbernielive: no worries :)11:13
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bernielivepm?11:13
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sercikprivate message11:14
sercikclick on my name right mouse and then choose private message11:14
bernielivedoesn`t say pm11:15
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sercikbernielive?!11:19
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sercikwhich program are you usinf? to chat?11:19
snpz^wrkKonversation11:19
snpz^wrkxchat11:19
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sercikon the left top you must see my name under #kubuntu11:19
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sercikexcuse me snpz^wrk i talk with bernielive11:20
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Jucatosercik: if he's using Konversation (which is the one installed by default), it should be right-click -> Open Query11:20
serciki have already opened conversation so he must only switch window chat11:21
sercikhi jucato!11:21
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Jucatohi11:22
serciki'm not very good with linux11:22
sercikbut i'd like to help for the basis11:22
Jucatolooks like he went afk or something11:22
sercikii want to do my part11:22
Jucatothat's very good :)11:22
Jucatokeep it up11:22
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serciki have abbandoned fedora for kubuntu and for i'm in trouble for the differences :(11:23
sercikfor example telinit command doesn't work in kubuntu11:23
Jucatodon't worry. the basic differences would probably be the commands and package names. (unless you were using GNOME then)11:23
serciki'd like to start in runlevel 3 and then call runlevel 5 with startx11:24
Jucatosercik: telinit is in Kubuntu11:24
serciki use kubuntu11:24
Jucatoah.... runlevels... too advanced for me :)11:24
sercikand the inittab configuration file?11:24
serciknoooo11:24
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sercikin redhat there was a file in /etc called inittab11:24
Jucatohm.. I forgot where inittab is.. but I think it's in here somewhere11:24
sercikonly need to write init 3:initdefault11:25
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sercikbut i can't find inittab in kubuntu11:25
cpk1*ubuntu doesnt use runlevels iirc11:25
Admiral_Chicagocpk1: it does11:25
Jucatoah I think they did away with that in Edgy?11:25
serciki don't think that don't use runlevel11:26
sercikis impossible11:26
Jucatosercik: edgy uses a new init system, not the old sys v init11:26
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Admiral_Chicagono, still do iirc. maybe because of upstart not sure11:26
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JucatoI do recall editing something like inittab to reduce the number of tty's... I just forgot...11:26
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cpk1there still is /etc/inittab11:27
cpk1i *think*11:27
cpk1i am running dapper though11:28
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sercikin the last kubuntu there is not inittab11:30
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serciksomeone could explain me qhy in synaptic appears like no installed some kde packages?11:31
sercikbut i'm using kde now11:31
sercikunder the category kde universe?11:31
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sercikcai i switch to tha package to have completely support for mp3 mp4 aac in kde program?11:32
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sercikAdmiral_Chicago please light me!!11:33
omgponiezlolsercik: hello11:33
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omgponiezlolit is I11:33
sercik| ?11:34
omgponiezlolI = Admiral11:34
serciki know that you are admiral11:34
omgponiezlolwhat can i do for you?11:34
sercikwhat do you think abot my previous question?11:34
omgponiezlolsynaptic? or mp311:35
serciki remember that in fedora there was a kde red-hat project that give the complete and official kde11:35
omgponiezlolnot sure about that11:35
omgponiezlol!restricted | sercik11:35
ubotusercik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:35
omgponiezlolfor mp311:35
serciki thought that there was a similat thing in kubuntu11:35
serciki know that page!11:35
sercikand i have read11:36
omgponiezlolkubuntu = kde build for ubuntu11:36
sercikbut if i change completely kde11:36
Rob-Westwill Kubuntu go from my S3 video to Nividia withough a problem11:36
omgponiezlolRob-West: probably11:36
sercikseems that universe repository give the complete kde11:36
Rob-Westi dont wanna fight with Xorg11:36
omgponiezlolif not, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:36
Jucato(probably not... need to reconfigure X)11:37
omgponiezlolsercik: you mean for every kde package ever?11:37
omgponiezlolJucato: X has done it for me before11:37
Jucatoomgponiezlol: it used a fallback driver when you switched cards?11:37
omgponiezlolno it just worked, no idea how but it did...11:37
Jucatowhat driver were you using?11:38
omgponiezlolnv iirc11:38
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Jucatoand you switched from what card to what card?11:38
omgponiezlolnv to on board11:39
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Jucatothe onboard is also nvidia, I presume?11:39
omgponiezlolJucato: can this come up some other time, unfortunetly Admiral has to get back to work11:39
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omgponiezlolno intel11:39
Jucatoah11:40
Jucatook sorry..11:40
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omgponiezlolJucato: thanks, we can talk when it's not...11:40
omgponiezlol@now chicago11:41
UbugtuCurrent time in America/Chicago: December 13 2006, 04:41:0611:41
Rob-West!time11:41
ubotutime: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB11:41
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Linux-Noobi@now zurich11:41
UbugtuCurrent time in Europe/Zurich: December 13 2006, 11:41:3911:41
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Rob-West@now Watervliet11:41
Rob-West!detroit11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about detroit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
Rob-West@detroit11:42
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Rob-West@now detroit11:42
UbugtuCurrent time in America/Detroit: December 13 2006, 05:42:1911:42
Rob-Westwow11:42
sercikyes admiral11:42
Rob-Westhow can i check my CPU temps11:42
serciki'm installing everything form universe repository that regards kde!11:43
sercikrob-west you can use lm-sensors11:43
serciktry sudo apt-get install ksensors11:43
sercikit installs lm-sensors and also a kde interface11:43
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Rob-West35C works11:47
xsachahey anyone here know about restricted modules.. installing old nvidia driver or something?11:47
Rob-Westthats what my CPU is running at11:47
sercikGood job Rob!11:48
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robthanks sercik!11:48
digitalfreedomi love when kopete crashes my desktop11:48
rob:p11:49
serciknothing11:49
sercikxsacha what do you need?11:49
xsachadoes restricted modules need to be uninstalled when you get a newer nvidia driver?11:49
digitalfreedomi love it even better when it crashes right after a reboot and wont re open thats aswsom11:49
sercikif you use alberto milone repository no11:50
xsachawhat about installing from nvidia site?11:50
sercikbecause is an .deb package that will upgrade automatic with apt11:50
serciki prefer to use people repository11:50
sercikyou can vist alberto milone page and read which are the pro and cons11:51
serciki have done with alberto milone repository and then automatic with adept_manager the driver download and install11:51
sercikif you use 64 bit:11:52
sercik#Alberto Milone Driver11:52
sercikdeb http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/nonlegacy/64bit binary/11:52
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xsachaif i (it's not me -- i dont have an nvidia card) installed the drivers from nvidia website though, would i need to uninstall restricted modules?11:52
sercikadd this to sources.list11:52
serciki think that it is a right think11:53
sercikfor sure......11:53
xsachaok thx, page not found on that link11:53
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sercikis not a page is the link to entry in sources.list11:54
xsachai know11:54
xsachabut i cant browse it?11:54
sercikno11:54
serciktry to googlin for alberto milone11:54
xsacha:( can usually browse them11:54
Jucatohm..11:54
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sercikwait a minute11:54
Jucato!nvidia911:55
ubotuFor Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable11:55
sercikjucato i'm italian so prefer alberto milone :)11:55
Jucatosercik: I don't know who owns that one. it's just in the bot11:56
Jucato(but yeah I think I'd trust tseliot's more...)11:56
sercikwhen i download with synaptic i can't browse the web (slowly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)11:56
sercikjucato is there an qutomatic mode to insert jucato: like you do with sercik:11:57
sercikor you must write it11:57
Jucatosercik: tab completion. like in the command line11:57
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abattoirsercik: write Juc and hit the tab key11:57
abattoiror even Ju11:58
sercikgreat11:58
sercikthank you11:58
sercikJucato: thank you11:58
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sercikah! the exact page is http://albertomilone.com/driver.html12:00
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sercik|multimedia12:01
sercik!multimedia12:01
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications12:01
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delphine_hi there12:04
delphine_I am struggling to use Katapult12:05
delphine_but I get a funky "invalid or uninitialized input deveice 166"12:05
delphine_s/deveice/device12:05
sercik!aac12:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:06
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revolutionstudiohey just asking but what kind of a server is myspace?....ftp or what?12:08
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revolutionstudiohey just asking but what kind of a server is myspace?....ftp or what?12:11
Rob-Westi just cleaned up my desktop12:11
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Rob-Westi added a second taskbar12:11
Rob-Westand it looks alot better12:12
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d34l3rhi12:14
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MHKre12:14
probZi got a problem12:14
MHKtell us12:14
probZI need widgets12:14
MHKwell, me at least12:14
probZdo you know what I mean12:14
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probZthey show CPU Load12:15
diometa12:15
MHKsomething like superkaramba?12:15
probZinet speed12:15
probZetc12:15
MHKtry aero12:15
Jucato!superkaramba12:15
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org12:15
probZ^^ wait12:15
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MHKyou'll get this at kde-looks.org12:15
probZwait... going to take a look12:15
diomethelp12:15
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diometwhere can i find xine codecs?12:16
diometin apt-cache search12:16
MHKxinehq.org12:16
diometthnq12:16
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probZwhere to find superkaramba?12:16
Riddellsee RestrictedFormats12:16
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mkay_probZ on sourceforge12:16
RiddellprobZ: universe12:16
MHKprobZ apt-get install superkaramba12:16
probZok ^^12:17
probZi got kubuntu edgy eft12:17
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probZ(6.10)12:17
MHKprobZ apt-get install superkaramba12:17
probZhope it's already built for edgy12:17
Jucatoit is12:17
probZany idea where to get apt package of xchat for edgy?12:17
probZi cant find12:17
MHKdamned, just try man!12:17
Jucato!info superkaramba | probZ12:17
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB12:17
probZi am talking bout XCHAT not superkaramba -.-12:17
JucatoMHK: patience12:18
RiddellprobZ: it's also in universe12:18
MHKprobZ sorry, meant superkaramba not xchat12:18
Riddellalthough xchat-gnome is probably in main12:18
JucatoprobZ: xchat is in the repositories, just like superkaramba12:18
MHKJucato messed a test12:18
probZxchat gnome is in main but not normal xchat12:18
probZthat sucks >_<12:18
MHKdiomet: do you speak german?12:19
probZich ja12:19
probZ:>12:19
diometi`m new on kubuntu/linux and i'll apreciate a lot some help with this codecs12:19
probZ:-D12:19
probZ@ mhk12:19
diometMHK, no...12:19
MHKdiomet: damned...12:19
probZso12:19
mindspin!de12:19
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:19
probZwo liegt das nun12:19
probZin welcher kategorie @ mhk12:19
MHKdiomet: there is very good wiki, unfortunately in german...12:20
probZah - dientprogramme12:20
probZ^^12:20
diometdoes not exist some apt-get install ?12:20
MHKprobZ ??12:20
probZjo12:20
probZwas gibts12:20
diometi found one last night12:20
MHKdiomet, because some are proprietary software12:20
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diometbut i have reinstall the kubuntu12:21
diometand now i can`t find it12:21
MHKdiomet: i know that the admin will kill me, but try www.getautomatix.com12:21
probZMHK12:21
probZno update for edgy already...12:21
probZonly for dapper12:21
probZ;)12:21
MHKprobZ hu? what are you talking about? xchat?12:21
probZno12:22
diometi found a source.list for edgy12:22
probZI am talking bout automatix12:22
diometon howtoforge.com12:22
MHKdiomet be carefull!!!12:22
probZit is not optimized for edgy already12:22
probZonly for dapper drake12:22
mkay_diometic, i have the same prob. try easyubuntu...12:22
MHKprobZ don't mind use 6.1012:22
probZI use 6.10 :-D12:22
probZ;>12:22
mkay_i hope it will be right for edgy, cause i install it too12:22
MHKprobZ me212:22
probZMHK ich kann deutsch12:22
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probZnur nebenbei12:22
probZ^^12:22
diometi like 6.1012:22
diometthe last ubuntu tryied was 5.1012:23
MHKthat sucked...12:23
MHK=(12:23
probZ5.10 lol12:23
probZcrappy installer....12:23
probZ:-D12:23
mkay_probZ dies ist ein englischsprachiger channel. bitte richte dich danach12:23
probZjop kk12:23
diometi've been searching for an os to replace windows12:23
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diometand until now12:23
diometkubuntu is the best12:23
diomet:)12:23
MHKdiomet: try MacOSX gg12:23
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probZi need an overview what shows me how much RAM is used12:24
probZhow mach Harddisk space etc12:24
probZI got superkaramba now12:24
MHKprobZ take aero12:24
probZwhat extensions do you recommend12:24
mkay_MHK mac is cool12:24
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mkay_probZ superkaramba12:25
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mkay_or conky12:25
probZi've got superkaramba12:25
probZbut it only shows "design"12:25
probZdesigns12:25
diometmaybe, but it can be installed on a pc12:25
MHKmkay_: got this crap at school... unfortunately12:25
diomet:)12:25
probZbut not extensions -.-12:25
diometi heard something about a pc version12:25
MHKprobZ: download some from www.kde-looks.org and then unpack and then click on'em12:26
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mkay_probZ no, it have nice sysmonitors too12:26
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probZ:-D12:26
bezxyw:D12:27
probZjust microsoft software12:27
probZnothin more or less12:27
MHKM$ u mean12:27
probZI was forced to Win XP on an 1 GHZ Machine12:27
probZto install*12:27
probZ5 mins after inet access the machine was damn slow12:27
probZand full of viruses12:27
probZ>_>12:27
probZnow I will install some Debian based Distribution12:28
diometa few years ago i installed a XP on a 350MHz pc12:28
probZ:-)12:28
MHKwho looked for codecs?12:28
diometME12:28
probZWindows ME12:28
probZ:-P12:28
mkay_me too, cause easyubuntu doesnt work12:28
MHKhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs12:28
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mkay_im installing edgy via ssh, very precious12:28
MHKand for the german one: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Codecs12:29
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probZMHK12:29
probZextensions for Superkaramba?12:29
stamenhi12:29
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probZwhere 2 get from12:29
stamenhow to see which program uses my CPU on 100% ?12:29
abattoirprobZ: what sort of 'extensions' do you need?12:29
abattoirstamen: try top12:29
probZwell12:29
probZone that shows CPU Load12:29
stamenabattoir: how12:29
probZone for RAM usage12:29
abattoirstamen: 'top' in a terminal12:29
stamenok12:29
probZone for iNET Activity (in and out)12:30
MHKstamen: top -d 0.512:30
probZthats it12:30
abattoirstamen: open up a terminal(konsole) type top, and press enter12:30
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diometlibxine-extracodecs12:30
diometthat`s the codec12:30
diometnow i have to find a repository12:30
diomet:)12:30
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probZah and one for harddisk usage (space left / space used)12:30
abattoir!info libxine-extracodecs12:30
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB12:30
probZ@ abattoir12:30
stamenabattoir: I saw it, thanks :)12:30
MHKffmpeg (universe), libxvidcore4 (multiverse), libxine-extracodecs (multiverse), libquicktime12:30
MHKthat are the most important codecs12:31
abattoirprobZ: browse through kde-look.org or click on Get new stuff in the sk main window12:31
abattoirprobZ: and choose a system monitor which fits your needs12:31
MHKprobZ: shall i send you a copy of aero?12:31
MHKabattoir: give it up...12:31
abattoirMHK: give what up?12:32
MHKabattoir: give it up, he wants you to do it.12:32
probZ-.- foad12:32
abattoirMHK: do what?12:33
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MHKprobZ: look yourself and use your eyes. I can only recommend you something.12:33
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probZforget what he said12:33
probZ...12:33
MHKabattoir to install the superkaramba design12:33
probZi dont need superkaramba... i had normal widgets using Gnome12:33
probZnow I search some for KDE12:33
probZ-.-12:33
probZthats all...12:33
abattoirprobZ: yeah, superkaramba is a 'widget' program12:34
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probZsuperkaramba only shows me some designs12:34
probZi dont need designs -.-12:34
MHKand then you need some widget themself12:34
abattoirif you need something very simple(at least eye-candy wise) get gkrellm12:34
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MHKdesigns=widget12:34
abattoirprobZ: 'designs'?12:34
eilker!vnc12:34
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX12:34
probZyeah visual designs...12:34
abattoirMHK: wait a sec12:34
MHKabattoir hm, also two sec... =)12:35
abattoir:)12:35
MHKwell, these were now 45.4 sec12:35
eMaX_re12:36
eMaX_anyone knows what ubuntu-minimal is for and why it is being removed upon install of other packages?12:36
MHKprobZ http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Desklets#SuperKaramba12:37
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probZ?12:38
probZright12:38
probZ Imeant desklets12:38
probZnot widgets ^^ sry12:38
MHKprobZ: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=50059&PHPSESSID=abbc07f1342c22c41bb926996c9ea57612:38
j03!FreeNX12:38
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX12:38
MHKprobZ guess that's what you're looking for12:38
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abattoirprobZ: try http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5005912:38
probZyep^^12:38
abattoiroh, the same stuff12:38
abattoirit's by nixternal apparently :)12:39
probZI mixed up widgets / desklets12:39
probZsry!12:39
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marius_Hi, I'm running thunderbird as my mailclient and if I click on a link in an email it tries to open this with konqueror. However I'd prefer if it used firefox. I cannot find this setting in thunderbird so I'm guessing thunderbird somehow drops the request to kde and lets kde open it with the default browser. Where do I set this behaviour ?12:39
MHKmarius_ go to Systemsettings12:40
MHKmarius_ then to standard programms (or similar, got german version) and then to webbrowser and change then to firefox (got to type in)12:41
marius_MHK Systemsettings/standard programs/webbrowser is already at firefox12:41
diometmkay_: i solved12:41
diomet:)12:41
diometneed help?12:42
MHKmarius_ hum, well then i don't know12:42
twosouls82marius_: it might use the $BROWSER variable then12:42
probZabattoir12:42
probZhow to change the KDE Theme?12:42
twosouls82marius_: export it in your ~/.bashrc12:42
probZoO?12:42
probZnot just the background12:42
eilker!ssh12:42
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/12:42
twosouls82probZ: try to look for yourself in Kcontrol12:42
twosouls82look harder12:43
marius_If I type an address in the "run command" bar in kde is in fact uses firefox. So it appears to be a thing of GTK applications maybe12:43
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twosouls82marius_: look at what I said, some apps (mostly gtk) use the $BROWSER environment variable to launch urls12:43
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twosouls82marius_: put 'export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox' in ~/.bashrc12:44
twosouls82marius_: then relogin12:44
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twosouls82it might even lauch sensible-brower, that wouldn't be nice12:45
twosouls82=)12:45
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Hisfkofhi peapole, i need install kwlan (or similar) gui for wpa_supplicant12:45
Hisfkofkwlan don't work, his say "wpa_supplicant not are executing"  but wpa_supplicant daemon are working12:45
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marius_twosouls82: I've done something similar: in a shell : >>> export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox' && modzilla-thunderbird <<<  but still the same so the env setting does not seem to do the trick12:46
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twosouls82marius_: to determine if the sensible-browser is used; 'ln -s /usr/bin/firefox ~/bin/sensible-browser' and restart thunder, if that wasn't it, remove the symlink from your personal bin dir12:47
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marius_twosouls82: still konqueror... Hmm I need to work now. I'll try later. I'll just keep copying the addresses into firefox12:51
twosouls82marius_: export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox' && modzilla-thunderbird <--- typo, missing '12:51
twosouls82marius_: have a nice day at work12:51
marius_twosouls82: O yea the typo was here in the chat, not in the shell of course. But thank you !12:52
twosouls82:)12:52
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probZfound what i needed12:54
probZ...12:54
probZwhere can i find truecrypt... is there any official binary?12:54
lupine_85!truecrypt12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
lupine_85nope12:55
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fildo*gone01:00
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GunirusHi01:03
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GunirusWhen i plug in my USB hdd, Kubuntu asks me what to do. I click "open i a new window" and the hdd will be mounted... But the owner is root01:04
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Gunirushow can i change that?01:07
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digitalfreedomi do i uninstall a tar file from cli?01:13
digitalfreedomhow*01:13
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verminox_hey any kdevelop users here?01:18
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sercikan antivirus for kubuntu?01:18
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supergregmy adept package manager just quit on me, and now it says "another process is using the packaging system db"  - how do I kill it?01:21
Jucato!adept crash fix | supergreg01:21
ubotusupergreg: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'01:21
supergregthanks01:21
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GunirusWhen i plug in my USB hdd, Kubuntu asks me what to do. I click "open i a new window" and the hdd will be mounted... But the owner is root01:22
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Gunirushow can i change that?01:22
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marius_twosouls82: If you are interested, i've found a solution to the default browser used by thunderbird: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser01:24
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twosouls82marius_: thanks man, next time I will have that as a third option =)01:24
twosouls82;)01:24
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twosouls82marius_: I changes my from 'galeon' to 'konqueror', I am on kde an galeon was default  :D01:27
twosouls82s/changes/changed/g01:27
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delphine_ok, Katpult is driving me crazy01:46
delphine_or rather, it's not driving at all :(01:46
stamenhow can I search in console by letter01:47
stamenls ?01:47
stamenin example, I am in directory with many subdirs01:47
stamenand they are starting with letters01:48
stamenhow can I search by letter "w"01:48
stamenlets say01:48
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stamento show me the folders with "w"01:48
eMaX_did I say recently adept sucks....01:48
stamen:)01:49
eMaX_when I have a conflict, it gives me an ok button and forgets all selected packages afterwards01:49
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stameneMaX_: yes I now01:49
stamen:)01:49
stamenknow01:49
eMaX_any other thing that I can use instead that would be better01:50
stameneMaX_: use apt-get01:50
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stameneMaX_: for search use-> apt-cache search01:50
eMaX_a little more like user interface fancy ? :)01:50
stameneMaX_: with GUI I don't know01:51
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marius_stamen: ls w*01:51
stamenmarius_: 10x01:51
stamen:)01:51
stamenhow can I test my webcam01:52
stamendoes it work or not01:52
eMaX_of course if I select packages manually using adept, I cannot use apt-get as the database is locked01:52
stameneMaX_: close adept01:53
stamenand try gain01:53
stamenagain01:53
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Jucato!adept crash fix | eMaX_01:54
ubotueMaX_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'01:54
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Jucatodelphine_: ls <letter>*, like "ls w*" to search for everything beginning with 'w' (doesn't include 'W')01:55
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delphine_huh?01:56
Jucatoer sorry01:56
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Jucatoit was for stamen...01:56
delphine_auto complete ;)01:56
Jucatostamen: ls <letter>*, like "ls w*" to search for everything beginning with 'w' (doesn't include 'W')01:56
Jucatodelphine_: nah.. I wasn't reading properly... your nick and stamen have the same color here...01:56
stamenJucato: yes they told me :)01:57
stamenJucato: 10x01:57
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stamenJucato: do you know how to test my webcam01:57
Jucatonope01:58
stamenJucato: I wan't to use it ofcourse01:58
JucatoI don't even have a webcam, much less know how to test it...01:58
stamenJucato: but I can't use it with skype for now01:58
stamenJucato: ok01:58
abattoir!webcam01:58
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:58
stamendoes anybody knows01:58
abattoirstamen: skype for linux doesn't support video yet01:58
stamenabattoir: yes I know01:58
stamen:(01:58
stamenthats why I install whengophone01:59
stamenwhengophone01:59
stamenit supports01:59
stamenbut I can't see a preview in the settings01:59
stamenof my webcam01:59
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nuxilhow can i put a dot at the 3 number from right to left? example.. i got a string like: 123456 i want that to be 123.456 or if its 1234 i want it to be 1.23402:18
nuxilhow can i do it?02:19
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Koshtanhi all02:21
kruemelteehi Koshtan02:21
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Koshtanfirst time starting this talking from the live CD :D02:22
Koshtanlooks good02:22
fdsareqwfsdarewqhello?02:25
fdsareqwfsdarewqhi this thing is on :)02:25
Koshtanfirst time for you to dude?02:25
Koshtan:)02:25
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fdsareqwfsdarewqfirst time on irc in oh 10 years02:26
fdsareqwfsdarewqnever used this client before02:27
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fdsareqwfsdarewqthe channel lists are hilarious  lilo-memorial :)02:28
fdsareqwfsdarewqciao02:28
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Koshtan:))02:30
Koshtanis there any good pluggin for .mp3,.avi... etc. ?02:31
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Koshtanis there any good pluggin for .mp3,.avi... etc. ?02:34
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Koshtanany one...02:35
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BluesKajhowdy all ! :)02:39
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Koshtanhi02:40
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Gunirus_hi Koshtan02:44
BluesKajwow, quiet this morning02:45
Koshtanis there any good pluggin for .mp3,.avi... etc. ? PLS02:47
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Koshtanthis OS looks just fine :D02:48
crimsun_Koshtan: for what app/usage?02:48
BluesKajcan anyone decipher this message . This is the error message generated when trying to open Xawtv,...  Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct02:48
crimsun_Koshtan: enable the universe and multiverse components, then install the 'libxine-extracodecs' package02:49
Koshtancrimsun_:  realy dont care i just want to play them.. ex.: coffeine to play .avy and amarok .mp302:50
Koshtanill do my best thanks...02:50
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Koshtan:)02:50
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Shan`i just connected another hdd in place of my cdrom.. now i cant see it02:51
master_give it for ubuntu a filesharing program???02:51
Shan`tanyone?02:52
Shan`hello?02:53
crimsun_Shan`: does the bios recognise it?02:53
Shan`yeah02:53
Shan`i mean i hope so02:53
Shan`lol02:53
Shan`i didnt check02:53
crimsun_then check.02:53
Shan`lol brb02:53
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Koshtancrimsun_: how do I enable the universe and multiverse components? im realy kinda new here SRY02:55
crimsun_!components |Koshtan02:56
ubotuKoshtan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:56
Koshtanhih thanks...02:56
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Shan`well.. i checked and it detects it as secondary slave02:57
Shan`crimsun_, ??02:58
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master_ubuntu sucks02:59
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dannybuntulol03:00
BluesKajwell, now you can deal with it Shan`, but it means you have to reset the connections for that drive to either primary or slave depending on what setup you want to have03:00
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flo_Anyone here who can help me with passwordless ssh ?03:01
Shan`Black5un, does that mean i need to check the jumper?03:01
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Koshtanlaters my linux friends.. crimsun_ ,thanks again!03:01
BluesKajyes. go to the makers' site for the name amd number of the drive to dee what the jumper options are, Shan`03:02
BluesKajsee03:02
Shan`grrrr03:02
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Shan`Black5un, theres no jumper in there.. os its obviously a slave rigt?03:02
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Shan`*sigh*03:04
BluesKajnot necessarily Shan` , it depends on the maker's setup03:04
BluesKajwhat brand is the drive03:05
Shan`its a 40 gb sAMSUNG03:05
BluesKajmodel ?03:05
Shan`AND SORRY BOUT THE NICK BluesKaj03:05
Shan`SV4012H03:05
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Shan`the thing is BluesKaj that i got this drive from work.. and i intend to use this as a backup disk.. but i need to first take a backup of the stuff thats on there.. it might be some imp work related shit03:07
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hammersources list /etc/apt?03:08
Shan`?03:09
VSpikeWhen I insert a removable storage device and it gets mounted into /media and a link placed on the desktop, what mechanism(s) are doing that?03:09
Shan`would be fun to automount all drives eh?03:09
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BluesKajShan`, you can see the drive , then you have access to the data unless it's pw protected etc03:11
Shan`BluesKaj, I cant mount it.. i see it as hdd but if I try to mount it it asks for a fs type which i know is ext3 cos theres another ubuntu install on it but then it says ext3 is wrong03:11
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mindspinVSpike do you have issues with usb devices?03:12
BluesKajdoesn't matter whether it's a slave ...you van always change it03:12
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Shan`would reconfiguring grub see it as a bootable and give me that option?03:12
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Schuenemannhow can I remove the java (JDK) included in kubuntu?03:12
eMaX_anyone here knows how to recompile the kernel that comes with kubuntu? I'm asking as I've seen a patch that would allow me to enable my drivebay hotswap. I've not yet compiled a kernel on ubuntu (only suse), and otoh don't want to break any other things like suspend/standby which work well03:13
crimsun_...there is no JDK included with Kubuntu.03:13
Schuenemannsorry, JRE03:13
crimsun_meaning gcj?03:13
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Schuenemannyeah, gcj03:13
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crimsun_why remove it? do you want Sun's or IBM's instead?03:13
Rebeccahi hi... how do i kill arts on the live cd.. im trying to install but arts keeps poping up "sound server fatal error; cpu overload aborting". top shows it is going crazy. killing it doesnt help because it respawns.. disabling sound in kde setup thingy doesnt help either03:13
Schuenemannyes, I'll install JDK 603:14
BluesKajShan`, your present ubuntu is prolly ext3 as well ...some how it has to become the primary ....the best thing in my opinion is make it the primary and disconnect your present primary for now so you can access the samsung03:14
crimsun_Schuenemann: you don't need to remove it; just reconfigure the Java alternative and $PATH03:14
Schuenemannbut there's no reason to have an older version03:14
Shan`BluesKaj, makes sense.. thanx03:14
Shan`bbl03:14
crimsun_Schuenemann: when you remove gcj, it'll drag away a considerable portion of the infrastructure, too.03:15
BluesKajright03:15
Schuenemannhmm...03:15
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crimsun_Rebecca: in a Konsole: grep snd_via82xx /proc/asound/modules >/dev/null 2>&1 ; echo $?03:15
Rebeccathe reason it's dieing is probably because it's trying to use my crappy onboard sound by default.. but i have a SBlive that i normally use.. ill fix that up when i finish the install but anyone know how to kill arts for now?03:15
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crimsun_Rebecca: tell me what that entire command returns03:16
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Rebeccacrimsun_: 003:16
sercikhi rebecca!03:16
sercikprobably you could disable onboard audio from bios03:16
crimsun_Rebecca: excellent. I fixed that several months ago. In the meantime, just set your SB Live to be the default. In that same Konsole, what's the output from ``asoundconf list'' ?03:17
Rebeccasercik: um, hi03:17
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RebeccaV823703:17
serciki think is the best solution if you use a live why doesn't disable audio on board?03:17
sercikciao a tutti!!!03:17
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the_hammerok every sudo command i do isnt working sudo kwrite and sudo kate03:18
sercikhi to the great kkathman...03:18
Rebeccasercik: because right now im just trying to install it to my hdd not set it up03:18
the_hammeri wanna edit my stupoid sources list03:18
crimsun_Rebecca: ok, in the same Konsole: echo options snd-via82xx dxs_support=2 |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base03:18
Schuenemannthe_hammer: it's kdesu03:18
crimsun_Rebecca: wait, you haven't finished installing it yet?03:18
Schuenemannkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:18
the_hammerthanks guys03:19
Rebeccacrimsun_: nope. read what i have said and that's evident03:19
Rebeccacrimsun_: i just dont want the install to be messed up by arts consuming 99% cpu while im doing it03:19
crimsun_Rebecca: (no, it's not evident, because the installer could have begun already, which changes the approach)03:19
crimsun_Rebecca: you can disable the sound server in System Settings03:20
Rebeccacrimsun_: like i said... i did already....03:20
VSpikemindspin: sorry.. had to attend to a crying baby suddenly.  Not exactly.  Mostly curiosity.  Also that something has created a whole load of directories in my /media folder called usb, usb0, usb1 ... usb7 and I'm curious why03:21
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Rebeccawhat is spawning arts? i just want to kill the damn thing while i install03:22
crimsun_Rebecca: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) && sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-via82xx dxs_support=203:22
mindspinI asked because there is a bug relating t hal (which is doing the handling of usb devices, and other things)03:22
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Rebeccacrimsun_: sweet. i think that did it... so far :)03:23
Rebeccacrimsun_: thanks :)03:23
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VSpikemindspin: I assumed it was to do with the 3 port hub / cardreader that I plugged in.  Yet, when I plug a card into that device, it gets mounted as /media/usbdisk03:24
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mindspinso you seem not affected by that bug03:24
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VSpikemindspin: what are the symptoms?03:24
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mindspinusb devices are no more recognized by plugging them in and you'll have to fiddle around with fstab or "downgrading" hal03:25
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ncallergnome-terminal has a way to enlarge the window and font while keeping the lines 80x25 constant. using (Ctrl Shift +).  In Konsole I know you can drag the window larger and choose a larger font size but is there a way to increase it and keep the aspect or lines the same? (80x24) in this case?03:26
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VSpikewell, I have one device which used to be recognised when I plugged it into that 3 port hub, and now isnt unless I plug it into the PC itself.03:27
Alter-Egoi am getting no sound from you tube videos03:27
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vyomanwhat is the linux way of windows ipconfig /flushDNS?03:29
ncallervyoman what do you need to do?03:30
vyomanclear the dns cache03:30
LjLvyoman, don't assume we know what windows commands do :P anyway, i'm not sure there's a DNS cache at all... i'll check03:30
ncallerwhat is resolving improperly?03:30
vyomanohps yes thanks03:30
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LjLvyoman: http://www.tech-faq.com/flush-dns.shtml <- but this daemon the talk about doesn't seem to be there here =)03:31
vyomani am changing the DNS entries on the server and don't like to wait for the DNS TTL03:31
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ncallercreate a temporary entry for the machine in /etc/hosts03:31
VSpikemindspin: so, what part does HAL play in the whole process? I remember you used to have to fiddle with things like putting "auto" in your fstab, or using supermount or autofs or whatever they were called.  Are those still involved, or does KDE itself take care of things now?03:31
LjLvyoman: some google seems to confirm my suspicions of no-caching-by-default03:32
ncallerverify it has actually been changed on the nameserver by doing a manual lookup at that nameserver: $ host box.to.lookup nameserver.to.use03:33
vyomanahh thank you very much, i thought i ask here first03:33
serciki have tried to launch a program with alt+F2 combination keys (for example synaptic) it requires root privileges and kubuntu try to use gksu (s gnome frontend to sudo) why it doesn't use kdesu instead?03:33
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LjLsercik: well, if the program is synaptic, then it doesn't surprise me too much that it tries to use to gksu...03:33
mindspiniirc hal is the kde part which handles the stuff, but I#m no expert/developer03:33
sercikhi ljl03:33
LjLsercik: anyway, can't you just specify "kdesu" before the command manually, if the program itself is too smart for its own good?03:34
serciki have resolved installing gksu03:34
sercikbut i tought that was an option to specify the use of kdesu as predefined!03:34
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LjLwouldn't installing synaptic install gksu anyway?03:34
ncalleralso when you run Alt+F2, there is an options menu to "Run as a different user" you should use that03:35
JucatoLjL: afaik, no03:35
sercikexcuse me but i don't understand03:35
sercikthe problem however is not important.....03:35
VSpikemindspin: thx03:35
LjLsercik, there's no "predefined" sudo-like command i think... it's just that some programs (like synaptic, i guess) have the abilities to launch a sudo-style thing on their own. in the case of gnome programs, i would assume it's gksudo03:35
sercikprobably03:36
ncallerwell maybe not if root's password is unknown and only accessed through sudo then being able to enter the root password is pointless.  I guess it depends on if kde's run is invoking su or sudo03:36
serciki'm not good in linux and was not symple to mer understand that the problem was gksudo :(03:36
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LjLJucato: hmm, well, depends what you use to install it ;-) gksudo is a recommends. if you install gnome-app-install it's a depends, though03:37
JucatoLjL: probably. I only installed synaptic (for testing)03:37
LjLsercik, why was it a problem, at any rate?03:37
Schuenemanncan anyone tell me where to download flash9? Adobe website always redirects me to flash703:37
sercikstrange that apt-get install synaptic doesn't install also gksudo03:37
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LjLJucato: right, i said "depends" because if you installed it using, say, aptitude, the recommends would be installed by default03:37
LjL!flash9 | Schuenemann03:37
ubotuSchuenemann: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports03:37
Jucatoit shouldn't be a problem. when you install Synaptic, the K Menu entry for it doesn't specifically use gksu/gksudo or kdesu03:38
Schuenemann!backports03:38
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports03:38
JucatoLjL: not on my system (set aptitude not to install recommends :P )03:38
LjLsercik: "gksu" is listed as a "recommended" package for Synaptic. apt-get, by default, doesn't install "recommended" packages, but only "dependencies". other front-ends (such as aptitude) do that by default03:38
sercikok03:38
LjLJucato: ah well, i was talking defaults of course :P03:38
fdovingsercik: it's not needed to run synaptic. it's just ubuntus way of starting synaptic.03:38
sercikbut aptitude is not good frontend03:39
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serciknot simple to use03:39
fdovingalso, one can configure kdesu to use the su/root password instead of the sudo/user password.03:39
sercikso i have installed synaptic tha i like much03:39
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LjLfdoving: i assume his problem was that he launched it without any *su* thing whatsoever, and i suppose if it sees it's not root, synaptic tries to launch gksu...03:39
JucatoLjL, sercik: the K Menu entry for Synaptic has the "Run as different user" enabled, and doesn't use gksudo or kdesu specifically. this means that the it's up to the system to decide whether kdesu or gksudo is installed/being used03:39
serciki have learned one new thing "Run as different use"03:40
serciki have installed a lot of games like pingus penguin racer-...... but there aren't no shortcut in kde menu03:40
Jucatosercik: if "Run as different user" is set to blank, the system will assume that you want to run it as root03:40
LjLsercik: but anyway, just typing "kdesu synaptic" should suffice03:41
Jucatosercik: some apps really don't get added to the menu03:41
sercikwithout doubt03:41
sercikbut noone games i have installed?03:41
Rebeccasercik: you can add them yourself03:41
LjLsercik: well, *some* packages do miss a menu entry. otoh, i've sometimes experienced that packages that *do* provide an entry don't have it added until KDE is restarted, for some reason03:41
sercikthank you ljl03:41
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LjLsercik: well, dunno, let me try the ones you mentioned03:42
JucatoLjL: no need for a restart. "kbuildsycoca" is enough. I also think that has been fixed in Edgy03:42
fdovingLjL: that's because the sycoca isn't properly updated. running 'kbuildsycoca --incremental' from the commandline would fix that.03:42
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serciki thibnk that you are right because i don't think that al lgames doesn't add shortcut03:42
sercikyes rebecca03:42
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LjLJucato, fdoving: thank you. yes, i don't think i've seen that anymore in edgy actually03:42
sercikbut if i install ten application together is not symple to make ten shortcut03:43
LjL(though still, i think i'll keep using ctrl alt backspace ;)03:43
Schuenemannhow do those backports help me? I already have those in my repositories03:43
fdovingsome games only provide a debian-menu menu entry. in that case one needs to install the 'menu' package.03:43
sercikfdoving explain me better please!03:43
LjLsercik: pingus and planetpenguin-racer, you said?03:43
Jucatosercik: there are very few apps that don't get added to the menu, compared to ones that are added03:43
sercikso i'm stranged noone shortcut appears03:44
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LjLSchuenemann: then "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" should do the trick03:44
Jucatosercik: usually some of the games I think don't really get added to the menu, unless you do some stuff (like what fdoving mentioned)03:44
Schuenemannwill that install 9?03:44
fdovingsercik: some apps do not provide a .desktop file, which will make up the menu. some provide a .menu file in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.menu file instead, debian (and then ubuntu too) got a system to read those files and make a menu. to get that menu you need to install the 'menu' package.03:44
LjLSchuenemann: if you're on Edgy and have backports enabled, yes03:44
Schuenemannhow can I know which version will it install?03:44
SchuenemannI'm on dapper03:44
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LjLSchuenemann: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree03:45
LjLSchuenemann: if you're on dapper, then perhaps seveas has it03:45
LjLlet me look03:45
sercikif i explore the contect of one package can i understand if and where a shortcut is created?03:45
JucatoLjL: flash 9 beta 2 available for both dapper and edgy in backports03:45
Seveas(dapper-backports has it)03:45
LjLSchuenemann: oh nevermind then. just use backports03:45
Jucato:)03:45
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Schuenemannbut it's 703:45
fdovingsercik: it will make a kmenu -> debian submenu with all it's fancy debian-menu stuff.03:45
Schuenemann7.0.63.3ubuntu3 003:45
LjLSchuenemann: then you don't really have backports enabled03:45
JucatoSchuenemann: do you have dapper-backports enabled?03:45
LjLSchuenemann: are you sure there isn't also another version listed?03:46
serciki install menu package03:46
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Schuenemannlet me see03:46
LjLsercik, here planetpenguin-racer is added a menu entry in Games / Arcade. i don't see pingus though03:46
sercikljl i have installed menu package and some application appeas03:47
LjLSchuenemann, apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree will list *all* the versions that you have available, including older ones from other non-backports repositories03:47
sercikappears03:47
Schuenemannonly 7 was listed03:47
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LjLsercik: together with a lot of cruft, i bet =)03:47
LjLSchuenemann: then you don't have backports enabled, pastedbin your /etc/apt/sources.list03:47
sercikthanks to jucato for this hint03:47
Jucato!pastebin | Schuenemann03:48
ubotuSchuenemann: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:48
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SchuenemannI guess I'm wrong03:48
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sercikyes thanks to fdoving i don't remember right03:48
Schuenemann# deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse03:48
Jucato:)03:48
Schuenemannthis should be uncommented, right?03:49
JucatoSchuenemann: yep03:49
Jucatothe "sudo apt-get update" or click on Fetch Updates in Adept03:49
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serciksomeone could give me the repository for flash on kubuntu edgy03:49
sercikif i do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree noone package is found03:50
Jucatosercik: it's in multiverse (Flash 7) and edgy-backports multiverse (Flash 9)03:50
Jucato!multiverse | sercik03:50
ubotusercik: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:50
serciki have multiverse enabled03:50
sercikbut it can't find03:50
Jucatosercik: I guess you don't have the correct multiverse enable03:50
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sercikcould you paste me the correct address?03:51
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serciki have found it in unofficla ubuntu starter03:51
Jucatosercik: you have to add the word "multiverse" to the line that looks like "deb http://__.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"03:51
Jucatoadd multiverse, don't replace "universe"03:51
rebeccaokay... installed.. now how do i change the sound device?03:52
Jucatoso that it will look like "deb http://__.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse"03:52
serciklike this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse03:52
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Jucatoyeah that will do03:52
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serciki have this line but flash-plugin..... is not found03:52
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Jucatosercik: did you just add that recently?03:53
sercikno03:53
SchuenemannI added backports and now it lists versions 7 and 9, how do I choose?03:53
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serciki have already done many upgrade03:53
sercikand i have done apt-get update03:53
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Jucatohm.. strange...03:53
serciki know it's strange03:53
serciki can't understand!03:54
fdovingSchuenemann: the highest version will be preferred. you can select to install a lower version with for example: sudo apt-get install packagename=version03:54
Schuenemannok, thank you03:54
JucatoSchuenemann: you will probably have a notification that updates are available.03:54
shenmue!postmark03:54
ubotupostmark: File system benchmark from NetApp. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.51-5 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 68 kB03:54
Jucatoall you need to do is update to get the latest flash03:55
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rebeccaanyone? (changing the sound hardware it's set to use)03:56
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eMaX_how comes that adept_manager says that kde is not installed in kubuntu, while I'm obviously using kde03:58
Schuenemannargh... didn't work, appearently03:58
rebeccathe Kubuntu Device Database has frozen..03:58
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Schuenemannasks for plugin installation whenever I load a site that uses flash03:58
sercikeMaX_: i have the same problem03:58
sercikthe packages kde are under kde (universe)03:59
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eMaX_which means?03:59
BluesKajThis version is a testing version, updated daily, and we give no warranty it won't break anything, burn your house,or kill your dog. But it *should* be safe to use anyway.03:59
BluesKaj:)03:59
serciknoone have reply to me03:59
fdovingeMaX_: because kubuntu does not install the whole KDE suite. the package named 'kde' is there to install it all. which we do not do by default.03:59
sercikfdoving: but also kdelibs appears like noinstalled and that's impossible04:00
fdovingsercik: that's impossible.04:00
eMaX_but if I do install it I won't break anything?04:00
fdovingeMaX_: not sure, haven't tried.04:01
sercikno it's not impossible04:01
sercikwait a minute04:01
fdovingsercik: it's not impossible adept say it's not installed. But I still belive kdelibs is actually installed.04:02
sercikyes is installed if i do dpkg -l | grep kde is here04:02
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m`kayhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/277725 - kubuntu.org-sources are 404 ???04:03
rebeccai heard about some script that sets up all the non-free codecs.. doesnt seem listed in the faq.. can anyone enlighten me about it?04:03
serciki have installed kdelibs 3.5.5-0ubuntu304:03
sercikbut in synaptic there is 3.80.1-0ubuntu104:04
eMaX_anyone already tried 2.6.19 on top of edgy?04:04
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fdoving!automatix | rebecca04:04
uboturebecca: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:04
m`kay!easyubuntu | rebecca04:04
uboturebecca: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu04:04
eMaX_!easyunbuntu04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easyunbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
rebeccafdoving: cool. thanks :)04:05
eMaX_oops04:05
sercikprobably is because is not a kde upgrade but a different version04:05
sercikin fact if i try to install it removes many kde packages and install other versions04:05
Schuenemannthis damn apt-get didn't install any flash04:05
TheGateKeeperrebecca, you want the w32codecs?04:05
sercikSchuenemann: download manually flash04:06
Schuenemannwhere can I find it?04:06
Schuenemannflash 904:06
sercikinstalling is simple i have done so04:06
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sercikwait a minute04:06
Schuenemanncan't find at the adobe site04:06
rebeccaTheGateKeeper: yeah.. eventually.04:06
m`kayschuenemann wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Flash904:06
sercikif you want i can send you the file04:06
TheGateKeeperrebecca, read the top of my web page: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes04:07
Schuenemannsomeone but that's german!04:07
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Schuenemannoops04:07
Schuenemann*butt that's german!04:07
JucatoSchuenemann: what do you mean by it didn't install flash?04:07
sercik/nickserv register ciccio04:07
SchuenemannJucato: I opened a page and it told me to download the plugin04:07
sercikthat's stupid kopete04:08
JucatoSchuenemann: but you were able to install it using apt-get? are using Konqueror?04:08
rebeccaTheGateKeeper: okay. i think ill get a few other things done first though.... like my sound... anyone know how to change the physical sound device?04:08
serciki have done my password to all04:08
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SchuenemannJucato: firefox... and it said the installation was finished04:08
j_humm, how do I check if openGL works?04:09
sercik/nickserv identify ciccio04:09
JucatoSchuenemann: have you tried to restart firefox?04:09
SchuenemannJucato: yes, I closed before installing04:09
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Jucatohm.. strange...04:09
Schuenemannand now I accidentaly installed 7 again lol04:09
fdovingsercik: i think it's time to change that password :)04:09
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sercikbut i don't understand...04:09
JucatoSchuenemann: in Firefox, type "about:plugins" and see what Flash version is installed04:10
sercikkopete doesn't execute /nickserv command?04:10
Jucatosercik: you're probably typing a blank space before the "/"04:10
Schuenemann7... but I installed it accidentaly when it was requested04:10
Schuenemannanyway, no 904:10
Jucatosercik: and I think it should be /msg nickserver....04:10
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sercik/nickserv identify ciccio04:10
sercikno there is not blank space04:10
Jucatosercik: try /msg nickserv....04:10
LjLsercik: i'd change it04:10
sercikwith /msg it open a new private conversation04:11
sercikyes i will change it04:11
sercikbut i doesn't use kopete anymore04:11
Schuenemannmaybe you should type that in console/status ?04:11
BluesKajSchuenemann, flash 9 is buggy ...7 is stable and it works04:11
sercikstupid program GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR04:11
Schuenemannflash 7 does not open youtube04:12
rebeccaDoes anyone know how to change the physical device that the sound daemon is using? i need to change mine04:12
BluesKajworks for me , Schuenemann04:12
serciki will return with konversation04:12
Schuenemannhow come?04:12
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BluesKajabout: plugins, in the address bar04:12
BluesKajtype: about: plugins,   in the address bar04:13
SchuenemannShockwave Flash 7.0 r6804:13
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SchuenemannBluesKaj: what about it?04:13
sercik_l04:13
BluesKajapplication/x-shockwave-flash and application/futuresplash04:14
BluesKajyou should have both04:15
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rebeccaanyone? it's kind of a show stopper for me using kubuntu.......04:15
Schuenemannyes... in fact, it opened an youtube video now04:16
Schuenemannbut the video was a lot slower than it should be04:16
serciki heve changed my password04:17
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jpiccolodo you guys know anything about PCI-X?04:20
Schuenemann!pci-x04:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pci-x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:21
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ClayGhey anyone know the package/kernel name I need to apt to get dual core support?04:22
Schuenemannsercik: type that on status... it's safer04:22
trappistClayG: somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but you get dual core support out of the box04:23
sercik/i'm trying to learn04:23
serciki have added command on strtup in kopete but it doesn't work04:23
serciki'm trying on internet on how to configure kopete right04:23
SchuenemannI don't like kopete04:23
dannybuntukopete is great!04:24
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SchuenemannI wonder when there'll be a client like mirc04:24
Jucatoer?04:25
JucatoKonversation == IRC client04:25
dannybuntuloool04:25
Schuenemannbut not as configurable as mirc04:25
sercikmirc works good with wine04:25
Jucato??04:25
serciknow i will try to install it04:25
Jucatoyou can automatically identify yourself in Konversation04:25
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Schuenemanncan you use aliases, scripts, etc?04:26
Jucatoof course04:26
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paulohello all04:26
Schuenemannhmm04:26
rebeccabrb: restarting x... but in the mean time if someone figures out how to change the damn sound device let me know when i return please....04:26
JucatoSchuenemann: Settings -> COnfigure Konversation -> Command Aliases or Auto Replace04:26
Jucatofor scripts, they can be found/placed in /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts or ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts04:27
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Schuenemannok04:27
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Jucatoyou can choose to have your channel tabs at the top, bottom, or left side (tree view)04:27
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_normanquestion i have an e-tech adsl usb2 modem how can i connect it with linux04:28
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SchuenemannI could configure mirc to ignore actions (/me), is that kind of configuration possible with konversation?04:28
Jucatothat I don't know04:28
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Jucatoer sorry04:29
Schuenemannin some networks, lots of people keep auto-announcing the stupid songs they're listening to :p04:29
rebeccasoooo... anyone figure out my highly complex question.? *sigh*04:30
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fdovingrebecca: did you investigate inside system settings?04:30
fdovingrebecca: something about sound and devices?04:30
rebeccafdoving: yes... i have looked there..04:30
fdovingrebecca: it's there, i don't have a kde desktop around now, can't check.04:31
rebeccafdoving: the 'hardware' section lets me select which sound server im using.. but i fail to see what that has to do with hardware...04:31
rebeccaok04:31
rebeccaweird... im supposed to have 3d accel working but glxgears runs super slow..04:32
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Nookie^!w32codecs04:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:32
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sercikrebecca prova glxgears --showfps04:33
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sercikin una console04:33
fdovingor 'glxinfo | grep -i rendering'04:33
rebeccasercik: Warrning: unknown parameter: --showfps04:33
fdovingrebecca: i belive it's one -04:34
rebeccafdoving: and what am i looking for exactly in the output?04:34
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fdovingrebecca: in the output from 'glxinfo | grep -i rendering' you're looking for Yes or No.04:34
Jucatorebecca: it should have this "direct rendering: Yes"04:35
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rebeccalibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b04:35
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rebeccadirect rendering: Yes04:35
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rebeccahmmm.. whatever visual 0x4b is04:36
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kwtmIn Kubuntu, where exactly is the trash:// directory shown in the trash can ("recycle bin")?  It's not ~/.Trash or ~/Trash --I checked.04:36
sercikah was -printfps04:37
serciknot showfps excuse me04:37
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ragnar_123hi there!04:37
sercikrebecca you could also try penguin racer04:37
rebeccahmm.. is foobilliard not in the normal repos?04:38
LjLrebecca: IIRC yes04:38
LjL!foobillard04:38
LjL!foobilard04:38
ubotufoobillard: a 3D billiards game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0a-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 976 kB, installed size 1444 kB04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about foobilard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
LjLeh, correcting a typo that i didn't make04:39
ragnar_123any administrator here, who can tell me why am suddenly was banned from #ubuntu yesterday?04:39
rebeccahmm.. cant find it in the repos......04:39
piotszekwtm: "trash:/" in konqi, ".Trash-1000" (hidden) as a folder on each partition04:39
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ncallerrebecca apt-cache search tuxracer04:40
fdovingragnar_123: try #ubuntu-ops04:40
rebeccadoes ubuntu's repos only have a tiny subset of the packages avail in the deb repos or something?04:40
fdoving!repos | rebecca04:40
uboturebecca: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:40
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BluesKajrebecca, type this in the terminal: fgl_glxgears04:41
ncallerI get the same message with glxgears on my thinkpad, I also have direct rendering enabled and fps is 1171 avg.04:41
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the_hammeris there away to add an item of my choice to kmenu system tab?04:41
rebeccaBluesKaj: i dont have it installed04:41
ncallerright-click system choose "edit menu"04:42
ragnar_123fdoving: thanks04:43
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BluesKajrebecca, ok , sorry about that .. maybe this site can help you get the right drivers and setup: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_driver04:46
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the_hammerok this is gonna be tricky to explain but here goes04:46
sercikrebecca you could visit alberto milone drivers web page04:47
sercikfor me works good04:47
serciki have a 7600 GT04:47
the_hammeri open a term i type in sudo kmenuedit i created a new thing to add to the menu i call super user i have to sudo to see my work in the menu but long story short i wanna add it to the kmenu http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=4dmgmtc04:49
Jucatothe_hammer: why are you running kmenuedit as root?04:50
the_hammerbecause i need root privs to do what i wanna do with it04:50
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the_hammerany of u used mepis before?04:51
Jucatowhat do you mean? you run kmenuedit as a normal user if you want to see the changes on that user04:51
rebeccaBluesKaj: i think it is installed ok actually... despite the cryptic error. tuxcart + foobillard works fine04:51
Jucatothe_hammer: you want to add a K Menu entry that will launch Konqueror as root?04:51
the_hammeror seen any distro with a super user file manager in kmenu?04:51
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the_hammersomething like that yes04:51
the_hammerit can be done in mepis04:51
the_hammeri wanna try and make it work here04:51
Jucatothe_hammer: you don't need to be root to add that in kmenuedit04:52
rebeccawhich is certainly a plus compared to my days spent trying to get 3d accel working with debamd64. hehe04:52
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humbolt how can I quickly get a button in my taskbar which does execute one thing on the first and another on the second click?04:52
Jucatothe_hammer: add a normal entry in K Menu, and for the command, put in "kdesu konqueror"04:52
Jucatothe_hammer: or, just put in "konqueror" then enable/check the "Run as different user" and leave field beneath it as blank04:53
the_hammerok i messed something i think...ill trry again and ill be back in a bit04:53
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the_hammeri got it04:57
the_hammeri found my prob to while i was at it04:57
sercikto all people tha speak with me about the problem that apt-get for me can't find lflash-plugin nonfree!!04:57
Jucatoflashplugin-nonfree04:57
Dr_willis!fash04:57
serciki have understood the problem: I have 64 bit04:57
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
the_hammerwhen i typed the command in term to edit menu out of habbit i did it as root04:57
the_hammer*slaps self04:58
sercikand on the universe repo there isn't 64 bit flash04:58
ubuntuhello04:58
Jucatothe_hammer: which is why I was asking why you were running kmenuedit as root04:58
serciknoone of us could understand now i have understood the problem04:58
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Jucatosercik: basically because there is not 64 bit Flash at all..04:58
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sercikexact04:58
the_hammerya it didnt dawn on me till after04:58
Dr_willisJucato,  i was about to say that. :)04:58
Jucatosercik: I didn't recall you mentioning you were on 64-bit...04:58
sercikbut before you haven't told me that04:58
Dr_willisone of th emany reasons i dont mess with 64bit linux yet.04:58
shotglassi have a question: how do I set my resolution to 1280 by 1024? The maximum res on the LiveCD is 1024 by 76804:58
sercikbut you are good you must arrive yourself :)04:58
shotglassis that changable04:59
Jucatosercik: we can't read minds or guess if you're on 32-bit or 64-bit04:59
archangel_Hey, I just got a media card reader. How do I get it to work with linux04:59
sercik:)04:59
the_hammerok now i can continue to play bbl guys and thanks again04:59
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sercikjucato: i'm joking04:59
Jucatothe_hammer: next time, just right-click on the K Menu and select Menu Editor04:59
shotglasshow do I set my resolution to 1280 by 1024? The maximum res on the LiveCD is 1024 by 76804:59
shotglass[15:58]  <sercik> but you are good you must arrive yourself :)04:59
shotglass[15:58]  <shotglass> is that changable04:59
serciki'm not good05:00
serciki'm here to ask for your help05:00
shotglassso can i change the resolution while using the LiveCD?05:00
sercikto all people that need help on 64 bit kubuntu i can help to install firefox32bit with flash and java05:00
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mc__ im trying to compile enlightnement form cvs the autogen script gives me followin error:./autogen.sh: line 10: aclocal: command not found ,what package do you think is missing?05:01
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sercikone question windows vista exists 32 bit version?05:01
shotglassnever mind05:01
crimsun_sercik: it would be beneficial to write up your help on a wiki page, too.05:01
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sercikthe help is already online! but for someone that have a doubt.....05:02
sercikhow many people here call from europe? and from italy?05:03
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LjL!offtopic | sercik05:04
ubotusercik: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:04
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LjLand of course vista exits in a 32 bit version anyway05:04
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SchuenemannI have installed JDK 6, how can I make kubuntu stop using gcj (perhaps even remove it) ?05:05
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archangel_wow never mind it was auto matic05:05
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JucatoSchuenemann: "sudo update-alternatives --config java"05:06
archangel_the icon to the media was right there on my desktop05:06
archangel_I didnt have to do jack05:06
archangel_lol05:06
SchuenemannJucato: huh... I don't see the installation I just made05:06
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JucatoSchuenemann: you installed jdk or jre?05:07
archangel_what does this mean?  ----------->   can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab05:07
SchuenemannJDK, but it contains JRE05:07
JucatoSchuenemann: then there should be a line for Sun Java there05:08
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arnecould some one please tell me how to get mpd to recreate th db file?05:08
Schuenemannthere isn't... I swear05:08
Schuenemann/usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.105:08
Schuenemann*+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java05:08
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JucatoSchuenemann: how did you install it,btw? apt-get?05:09
sercikLjL: was only a question don't be so precise!05:09
Schuenemannno, the shell script at sun's site05:09
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Jucatoah, no wonder...05:09
Jucatosorry, my knowledge stops there..05:09
Schuenemannapt-get does not have 6, I think05:09
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Jucato nope. only 505:10
Schuenemannhow can I undo the installation?05:10
Schuenemannwhereis javac doesn't return anything, that's strange05:10
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dannybuntuhello all can anyone tell me how to reverse the effect of ./configure?05:12
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LjLdannybuntu: make distclean possibly05:15
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LjLor just remove the directory and untar again :P05:15
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dannybuntuok will try thanks :)05:15
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BluesKajwhat bit torrent client is best in (k)ubuntu ..I'm using azureus , but it seems to stall and lose conns frequently ...any suggestions ?05:19
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dannybuntuktorrent05:19
rebeccainteresting..i disabled onboard sound and it's still not finding my SBlive05:19
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dannybuntuBlueskaj: Ktorrent looks and feels like utorrent05:20
the_hammeranyone one here use eye candy?05:20
BluesKajdannybuntu, ktorrent seems buggy to me , doesn't launch properly half the time05:20
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the_hammerwhen i try to d/l liquid weather i friggen kate opens and kills my d/l05:21
the_hammerwhy and how to stop?05:21
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the_hammersays something bout binery file and poof d/l dies05:21
dannybuntuBluesKaj: utorrent works well in wine05:22
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makishi05:22
the_hammerwine...ill drink it with ya05:22
makisanyone tried voipbuster client with wine?05:22
LjLmakis: no, but keep in mind that you can use *any* SIP client with voipbuster (you just need their own client in order to *create* an account)05:23
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LjL!wengophone05:23
ubotuwengophone: SIP-based software telephone with video and chat features. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+svn4511-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2280 kB, installed size 4988 kB05:23
LjL!twinkle05:23
ubotutwinkle: Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) SIP Phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 1115 kB, installed size 2988 kB05:23
makisthanks for your answer05:23
LjL!kphone05:23
ubotukphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB05:23
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LjLmakis: the voipbuster site has a "SIP" page when it gives you the parameters to use on the client05:23
makisbut with voipbuster client you can send also sms05:24
rebeccacan anyone tell me how to change my sound device please?05:24
makisthats why i'd like to use it05:24
LjLmakis: well, i believe you can do that from the web page as well, though05:24
Schuenemannis there a way to remove GCJ without any side effects? I want to install JDK 605:24
makisyeah i'm a little lazy,i know....05:24
makishowever thanks05:24
LjLmakis: not a matter of laziness, but while WINE can be useful at times, i think mostly you should avoid it when you can... it's just unnecessary hassle and eating of resources, isn't it05:26
LjLSchuenemann: won't update-alternatives suffice?05:26
Schuenemannthe sun jdk isn't listed there...05:26
SchuenemannI installed using the shell script from sun's website05:26
makisi agree on that05:27
rebeccadoesn't anyone have a clue how to setup sound?!05:27
JucatoLjL: he installed Java 6 from java.com05:27
LjLoh, nevermind then05:27
Schuenemannwhy installing things have to be a pain? =/05:27
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LjLmakis: also, WengoPhone supports SMS sending - but i don't know if it's a Wengo specific feature, or something general to SIP that will work with VoipBuster as well05:28
LjLSchuenemann: it doesn't if you get them from the repositories :-P which, admittedly, don't have java 605:28
vadoBonsoir tout le monde05:28
Schuenemannyeah... that's a problem05:28
SchuenemannI installed from another distro that didn't come with gcj and it worked fine05:29
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Schuenemannisn't there a manual way of adding an entry to update-alternatives?05:29
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The_Machinedumb question, yeah..  where can i find my floppy?05:36
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The_Machinei'm not seeing it under media.05:36
The_Machinehow might i mount it, or be able to make it so i can use it? :)05:37
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tencokann mir mal jemand sagen warum psi in der ubuntu version nur jabber kann? o_O05:41
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Schuenemann!nl | tenco05:44
ubotutenco: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl05:44
BluesKaj!de05:44
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:44
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tencoups, sorry05:44
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tencofalse channel XD05:45
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rebeccahow do i manually setup sound? :/05:47
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crimsun_rebecca: more context, please?05:48
rebeccacrimsun_: it's not detecting my PCI SBlive05:49
rebeccaso i guess i need to set it up manually05:49
crimsun_what's the output from ``asoundconf list''?05:49
weswh-is it possible to run openssh off of the livecd? i am trying to figure out a way to get some data off of a drive onto my laptop (before i install the system). not sure what tools are at my disposal just with the livecd. ssh would work perfectly, but given it's not even installed by default i doubt it is there?05:49
rebeccathere is none05:49
crimsun_none?05:49
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crimsun_what's ``cat /proc/asound/cards''?05:50
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zorbashi05:50
rebeccaNo such file or directory05:50
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crimsun_rebecca: pastebin your ``lspci -v && lspci -nv''05:51
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zorbashey guys which distribution is best for newbie : kubuntu or suse ?05:52
Schuenemannboth are nice, in my opinion05:52
Schuenemannbut suse is heavier05:52
BluesKajkubuntu...suse has a terrible pkg sources setup05:52
Jucatoyou're asking in a #kubuntu channel?05:52
zorbasi've installed suse but it seems to complicated to me05:52
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zorbas:)05:52
weswh-i wouldn't say suse is 'complicated', apt-get is much nicer for packages as mentioned05:53
zorbasi simply asking05:53
Schuenemannif it seems complicated, try slackware :D05:53
Schuenemannyou can install apt-get in suse05:53
zorbasslackware ?05:53
zorbaswhat is apt-get ?05:53
weswh-but you won't be able to use the debian/ubuntu packages05:53
weswh-i meant overall, i wasn't impressed with suse packages. but, i'm rather new myself.05:54
Jucatoapt-get is the program for the APT package manager in Debian, Kubuntu, and others05:54
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Schuenemannand suse is 5 cds... kubuntu is only 105:54
JucatoSchuenemann: disadvantage: you need a good internet connection to install other stuff05:54
zorbasyes is really big05:54
Schuenemannyeah... right05:54
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crimsun_rebecca: tell us the url when you've pasted it.05:55
rebeccahttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/wWbPGt14.html05:55
Jucatothe premise with Kubuntu's 1 CD is that it contains everything you need to run a normal, "free" desktop05:55
Schuenemannbut the programs in those cds become old quickly05:55
megapigchange res 1280*800 anyone?05:55
rebeccacrimsun_: pastbin was being weird05:55
crimsun_rebecca: paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?05:55
rebeccacrimsun_: no05:56
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ultm8hey up folks05:59
ultm8have a real simple question for u linux gurus05:59
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ultm8i just cannot get my head around how to moving files out of a folder to another folder using the terminal06:00
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ultm8can some1 give me an example06:00
Schuenemanntype cd directory06:00
Schuenemannlike cd /home06:00
ultm8yes06:00
rebeccaultm8: man mv06:00
Schuenemannahh mov06:00
Schuenemannmove... sorry06:00
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ultm8yeah sure i know its mv <--- but how do i move the files within the folder and not the folder itself? do i have to move each file seperately?06:01
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ultm8for example i have 10 files in LINUX folder06:02
VSpikeif you want to move the files in the folder, cd into into it and do "mv * /some/new/place"06:02
ultm8the star with do it?06:02
ultm8:o)06:02
Jucatoyes06:02
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Jucato* = "everything"06:02
rebeccause wildcards with caution...06:02
ultm8i had a sneaking suspicion :o) thx Jucato06:02
Jucatoactually it means "all files"06:02
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ultm8u can sleep well 2night knowing u did a good deed06:03
ultm8hehehe06:03
VSpikeultm8: yes. And you can be more specific, e.g. "mv file* /some/new/place" which would move anything starting with "file", e.g. file123, filexyz, file.txt06:03
rebeccaJucato: and directories (which are really just another kind of file i know)06:03
ultm81 sec will just try it06:03
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ultm8quality06:03
Jucatorebecca: depends on the command. afaik cp and rm don't work with directories unless you specify -r06:03
ultm8i want to move all folders and files within the folder06:04
rebeccatrue.. but we are talking about the wildcard not the specific command06:04
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ultm8so would it be sudo mv * -r /home/blar/blar etc06:04
Jucatorebecca: I meant that * in cp and rm doesn't include folders, afaik06:04
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Jucatoultm8: no need for the -r06:04
ultm8oki doki06:05
ultm8here we go then06:05
ultm8i will get back to u06:05
ultm81 sec06:05
rebeccaultm8: read the man page.. it's explained quite well06:05
delanAlgum do Brasil?06:05
Jucato!br06:05
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:05
eeoshow do I switch to text install, because my screen goes blank?06:05
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ultm8guys thx soooo dam much06:06
ultm8finally06:06
VSpikeultm8: you can use mv to rename files too06:06
rebeccaim going to crash for the night.. if anyone has a clue about manually setting up the hardware sound device (yes i sound like a broken record but noone seems to have a clue). then please Private message me with info.06:06
VSpikemv oldname newname06:06
ultm8well done give urselves a big bat on the back ;o)06:06
eeoscan I install from the iso to my hard disk without cd and without floppy?06:06
mc__!ati06:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:06
eeos!iso06:07
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.06:07
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eeos!install06:07
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues06:07
ultm8now i can install joomla @ long last06:08
ultm8hehehe or next steop06:08
ultm8step06:08
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ultm8in the last 15minutes i learnt how to moves files using ssh to my server and to move files from folders only06:08
ultm8u guys rock thx06:08
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eeosI would like to install on a laptop through the internet, fetching files from the main repository, but I have no floppy and no cdrom06:10
Jucatoultm8: couldn't do it from a GUI?06:10
eeoscan I do it?06:10
The_Machineheh06:10
The_Machinehehe06:10
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ultm8erm no jucato06:12
Jucatowhy?06:12
ultm8my server has no gui06:12
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mefisto__What are kernel headers? I've been googling this and getting more and more puzzled. Is there a simple answer?06:12
ultm8and for some reason i cannot connect via the graphical interface on my localmachine06:12
Jucatosftp:// in Konqueror?06:12
ultm8hold on i will give that a go06:13
ultm8am actually using ubuntu06:13
ultm8not kubutu06:13
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ultm8but the ubuntu folks weren't very helpful ;o)06:13
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ultm8might go back to good old kde though ;o)06:13
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Jucatoah06:15
Jucatowell....06:16
Jucatodon't know how to do that in Ubuntu...06:16
delphine_hello people06:16
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crimsun_rebecca: any update on the paste?06:16
ultm8yeah i think its the same06:16
ultm8tried using natilus06:17
delphine_I have a question concerning unmounting the partitions at shutdown. But I may be totally wrong about the whole thing anyway.06:17
ultm8but for some reason my password fails eeeck!06:17
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ultm8yes06:17
ultm8i done it06:18
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ultm8thx jucato u taught me something else06:18
Jucato??06:18
delphine_Admiral_Chicago: you around?06:18
ultm8hahaha am on a learning streak06:18
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Jucatowhat did I teach you? sftp on Nautilus?06:18
ultm8if i type in sftp://username@ip in natilus i can graphically enter my remote machine06:19
ultm8hehehe06:19
ultm8sftp06:19
Admiral_Chicagodelphine_: sorry no, major paper due in 40 minutes06:19
Jucatoyeah06:19
ultm8in natilus06:19
ultm8yeah06:19
delphine_Admiral_Chicago: ok06:19
Jucatoworks in KOnqueror too06:19
delphine_Admiral_Chicago: may the force be with you06:19
ultm8also taught u something too natilus u can do it in there06:19
Admiral_Chicagoty06:19
ultm8was trying in my webrowser @ 1st06:19
Admiral_Chicagodelphine_: PM me if you wish06:19
Admiral_Chicagoi'll be awy 3 hours though06:20
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delphine_Admiral_Chicago: naa, i'll let you work06:20
delphine_thx :)06:20
ultm8yeah i know konqueror works, but never used it ;o) i think konqueror is far superior to gnome06:20
ultm8loads more functions06:20
ultm8but gnome is a nicer smoother environment06:20
Jucatoultm8: I didn't know it worked the same in Nautilus, tbh :)06:21
ultm8but kde has loads more functionality06:21
ultm8well we all learn together06:21
ultm8heheh06:21
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ultm8i cannot believe am logged into my other computer via this 106:21
ultm8that is sooo cool06:22
ultm8hahaha06:22
ultm8noob excitement06:22
Jucato:)06:22
CVirus!nvidia06:22
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:22
ultm8thats sooo handy06:22
ultm8was worried because lateron i need to move more files over06:22
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ultm8and now no more worries06:23
ultm8i think i wil still give the command line priority06:23
Jucatoyep. it's always good to learn the CLI counterpart06:23
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ultm8ok buddy i have to go now06:24
ultm8gotta go pick up the mrs06:24
ultm8but i will be back06:24
ultm8take care and thx 4 ur helps peeps06:24
ultm8Jucato the *06:24
Jucatohehe06:24
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derekShi. iI am trying to upgrade from dapper->edgy, and it is giving me problems with koffice-libs... i couldn't find any issues on launchpad/forums...any suggestions?06:33
derekSdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-libs_1%3a1.5.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/krossrunner', which is also in package koshell06:34
derekSthats the error06:34
raphinkuninstall koshell06:34
raphinkrun apt-get update06:34
raphinkand reinstall kubuntu-desktop06:34
raphinksee if that fixes it06:34
derekSuninstall via apt or dpkg?06:35
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raphinkeither06:35
derekScan i "--ignore-depends=koffice"06:36
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derekSbecause otherwise i can't uninstall06:36
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raphinkhow do  you mean you can't uninstall?06:37
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derekSapt wouldn't do it06:38
derekSso i needed dpkg06:38
derekSi did it with dpkg... works now :)06:38
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raphinkok06:39
BluesKajwhat gives : ?   /home/user/.local/share/Trash/files/xawtv-3.95/arch-i686-linux/config.log ...won't trash this file !06:40
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raphinkBluesKaj: is that a question?06:43
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_ptehello. can I somehow install kubuntu edgy without reformating the partition? (something like copy this, set this and it will work..)06:45
delphine_huh, what did you have on the partition before?06:46
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raphinkyou can _pte06:46
_pteI've got one single partition, but with some data on it..06:46
_pte(it's ext3)06:46
raphinkbut if you ask this, I doubt you will manage to do it06:46
eloquence_sup every106:47
delphine_raphink: heh06:47
_pteso can I just copy it and set lilo (or grup)?06:47
raphink_pte: why not save the data, install and put the data back on the partition?06:47
raphink_pte: this is what the desktop CD does almost06:47
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raphink_almost_06:47
eloquence_speaing of partitions anybody know about triple booting? XP,Ubuntu, BackTrack06:47
raphinkeloquence_: it's just like double booting06:48
dommorning, everyone!06:48
chriskellyhi all, I have a question that's probably obvious but I haven't been able to figure it out for the last couple of weeks06:48
raphinkexcept you add another entry to menu.lst06:48
chriskelly I am recently upgraded to kubuntu edgy eft and the bluetooth supports seems much better but...06:48
_ptethanks06:48
dom!wireless > dom06:48
chriskellyI can't figure out how to pair a device06:48
megapigwhy does most of my programs start to malfunction?06:48
raphinkmegapig: do you expect an answer?06:49
megapigdunno lol06:49
megapigAmarok won't start anymore06:49
eloquence_raphink th eprob is that when backtrack installs itself it takes over the MBR and i cant even get into Windows06:49
megapiganyone know how to fic it?06:49
megapigfix*06:49
eloquence_I wanna stick with ubuntu's GRUB at boot06:49
raphinkeloquence_: then install windows first, then backtrack and then linux06:49
raphinkeloquence_: or just reset grub after all installs06:49
raphinkmegapig: you're not giving much info06:50
eloquence_I have an NTFS part for Xp and an ext3 part for Linux which I split into three parts... 5gb ubuntu, 5gb BackTrack 500mb Swap06:50
eloquence_I aint reinstalling windows :-) and I might reinstall ubuntu since I screwed it up trying to install ieee8021106:50
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raphinkok06:50
eloquence_I have 6.06 but for some reason, it shows that ieee80211-1.1.11 is installed but ipw3945 wasn't finding it so I tried installing a seperate ieee80211 and it blew my wireless card away06:51
raphinkwow backtracks developers hvae a pretty high opinion of themselves06:51
raphink:)06:51
_pteeloquence> i usually boot some live cd, mount linux partition, chroot it and type lilo06:51
eloquence_its actually kubuntu that I have, but yea... I got screwed06:51
raphink"Combining the best features from both distributions, and paying special attention to small details, this is probably the best version of either distributions to ever come out."06:51
eloquence_backTrack devs has a buncha potato chips up their butt06:52
raphinkbeah, lilo06:52
eloquence_they dont wanna break them06:52
_ptebut if u r uber hacker like me, u can hack xp boot loader to load linux :-)06:53
chriskellyIs there a 'Pair a new device' option anywhere does anyone know or should I install an extra package?06:53
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eloquence__pte... i am still not too linux proficient... my windows bloodlevel is still over 90%06:53
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eloquence_i am ubernoober06:53
eloquence_we are a new breed ;)06:53
delphine_;)06:53
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raphinkeloquence_: what's special about backtrack?06:54
eloquence_should i just try downloading Edgy?06:54
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eloquence_raph... i just wanted it for the security stuff06:54
eloquence_to mess around with wireless06:54
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eloquence_here in Saudi Arabia its hard to find decent broadband ... there are a few places that have it where i wanna try to get into it... i can also use it to maybe help the ppl secure their wireless (make money on the side)06:55
eloquence_i am doomed to use dial-up .. so .. yeah, wanna get into some unused wireless broadband whenever i can06:55
_ptebuee, dial-up06:56
_pte"unused wireless broadband" :-)  lol06:56
eloquence_yea saudis are lame06:57
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eloquence_they pay for expensive connections06:57
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eloquence_then put them in their businesses or hotels knowng no1 will use them06:57
eloquence_and put passwords on them06:57
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eloquence_might as well use what they r paying for an dmaybe help them to stop others like me ;)06:57
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eloquence_if Dapper wasn't acting so gay... I woulda been able to use my ipw3945 correctly and never go to BackTrck06:58
eloquence_a 2.7gb install just to use some wireless tools OOTB :(06:58
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smaggardhey06:59
_ptetry slack, it's small and you can add some modules, but never tryed it06:59
eloquence_i dont really wanna stray to far from ubuntusince it is better for windows kiddies like me07:00
eloquence_but... i also wanna be bale to use all the hhardware built into my laptop07:00
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scion_hi07:00
eloquence_it's bad enough i have a winmodem and cant use it for dial-up07:00
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eloquence_but when i am also not able to use my wireless... i feel a bit screwed07:00
_pteunconnected...07:01
scion_when i try mount my usb stick i get the following: An unknow error occured... help!07:01
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eloquence_yea .. uber-unconnected07:02
_ptescion> can u open terminal and dmesg | tail ?07:02
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scion__pte: yes i can07:03
_pteto anyone creating iso boot images> can u optimize somehow layout of data on the CD? I want to use my DVD drive again after I boot!07:03
_ptescion> and is there some error, or something?07:04
chriskellybluetooth07:04
scion__pte: there does not appear to be any error07:04
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chriskellysorry (meant to do a search)07:04
scion__pte: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36858/07:05
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_ptescion_> it looks normal to me, don't know ubuntu much, but I usually mount devices by hand when GUI magic doesn't work07:09
scion_i'm kubuntu dude07:09
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_ptescion_> just mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/floppy or somewhere else and it should work. maybe some another initiative application tryed to mount it or something (it somethimes happened to me under kde)07:12
scion__pte: check it out now!! - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36859/07:12
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_ptescion_> ??. and you can read it under windows?07:13
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scion_yes, without problems07:14
scion_and i even did a chkdisk just in case07:14
scion_this memory stick is FAT3207:14
delphine_ok, I need help on accessing my ext3 partition with Windows07:14
delphine_anyone can help?07:15
delphine_ie. I need to make sure that the ext3 partition is cleanly unmounted when I quit linux07:15
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_ptescion_>have no idea07:16
delphine_so that window can access with the Ext2 Installable File System for Windows07:16
scion_ok cheers anyway07:16
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_ptewhy when I open / in konqueror, I see just home, media, rofs, but I can chdir to everywhere from address bar (in livecd)?07:24
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Rob-Westhows everyone07:24
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Dr_willis!hidden07:27
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles07:27
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Dr_willis_pte,  thats a 'feature' that seems to be getting removed soon. :)07:27
_ptemaybe just remove it for root (and why the .... there's not mc on the livecd? ok, prepared for 100+ cp and mv and mkdir..)07:29
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Authorityin kdmrc, on the ServerCmd line, what is the -br option that is used when starting X?07:29
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zorglu__pte: I see just home, media, rofs <- what is this 'rofs' ?07:30
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_pteaha, thanks for link07:30
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zorglu_!rofs07:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:31
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_pteisn't it something from livecd?07:32
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zorglu_oh they mean 'read only file system' ?07:32
zorglu_!search rofs07:33
ubotuFound:07:33
trikiRetrieving Data.... Please Wait....07:33
zorglu_ok i will know another day :)07:34
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_ptehow can I create /dev directory?07:36
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zorglu_"mkdir /dev" but it is unlikely you want to do that07:37
zorglu_as it most likely already exist07:37
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zorglu_and it has a very constrained content07:37
_pteno, i'm manually installing kubuntu07:37
buzzy!version07:37
buzzyhow can i know my version of ubuntu?07:37
zorglu_there is a command for that07:38
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zorglu_but i dont remember which one07:38
zorglu_lmb/freedesktop kindof stuff07:38
eloquence_buzzy07:38
eloquence_go to terminale07:38
eloquence_and type uname --help07:38
buzzyok07:38
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.07:38
eloquence_uname -r will show u what kernel u have07:39
zorglu_ahh a misterious answered :)07:39
buzzyguys now i want to know if i have ubuntu breezy or whatever version!!07:39
buzzy:D07:39
zorglu_buzzy: <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.07:39
zorglu_this was the command i was thinking about07:39
eloquence_breezy is 5.04 i think07:39
eloquence_6.06 is dapper07:39
eloquence_edgy is 6.1007:39
buzzyok07:39
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NapalmSMilesum how do i configue glx?  3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!07:43
NapalmSMilesor whatever it is that needs configuring?07:43
zorglu_!xxgl07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xxgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:45
zorglu_!xgl07:45
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:45
NapalmSMilesalso what the apt-get for installing the xwindows base files?07:45
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angasulezorglu_: xgl != glx07:46
angasule!opengl07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
eloquence_try #ubutu07:47
angasuleNapalmSMiles: do you have an nvidia card? ati? intel?07:47
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NapalmSMilesnot sure its a laptop,and i didint keep the orginal info07:47
zorglu_NapalmSMiles: you try to install the 3d desktop stuff, no ?07:47
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NapalmSMilesand the make/models wore off the bottom07:47
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NapalmSMilesyup07:47
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zorglu_an07:47
zorglu_angasule: i guess it was rather xgl then :)07:48
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angasuleNapalmSMiles: try 'lspci' in a console, it will tell you a bunch of PCI stuff in your laptop, maybe you can figure out what you have07:48
zorglu_"lspci | grep VGA" <- type that07:48
zorglu_as angasule saidf07:48
angasulezorglu_: 3ddesktop is an application, it is NOT xgl07:48
zorglu_angasule: hhehe :)07:48
angasulezorglu_: 3ddesktop needs just opengl, it's not related to compiz, beryl or any of that, it's just a neat virtual desktop switcher07:49
zorglu_angasule: pfff07:49
zorglu_sure07:49
NapalmSMiles01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev                                                              01)07:49
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zorglu_angasule: you are having a bad day i guess :)07:49
NapalmSMilesis that it?07:49
angasuleI had 3ddesktop running, but beryl is much more impressive so I use that when people visit :P07:49
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NapalmSMileswhats berly?im just loking for eye candy07:50
zorglu_NapalmSMiles: yep this is your model of graphic card07:50
NapalmSMiles!berly07:50
angasuleNapalmSMiles: that's an integrated card, yes07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
NapalmSMiles!beryl07:50
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:50
angasuleNapalmSMiles: you must get OpenGL working on your laptop before using any eye candy stuff07:50
NapalmSMilesapt-get install opengl?07:51
zorglu_"glxinfo | grep render" <- type that in a terminal NapalmSMiles07:51
imbrandon07:51
NapalmSMilesX Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)07:52
_ptedo i need /lib/udev/devices? how can I copy it?07:52
NapalmSMilesMajor opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)07:52
NapalmSMiles  Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)07:52
NapalmSMilesSerial number of failed request:  1607:52
zorglu_NapalmSMiles: you cant do 'glxinfo' ? you got problem in the install already07:52
NapalmSMilesCurrent serial number in output stream:  1707:52
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buzanyone using the edgy kernel updates from today? they wont boot for me07:53
zorglu__pte: you are sure you handling something adapted to your current skills ?07:53
zorglu__pte: i mean to install manually kubuntu is VERY HARD :)07:53
_ptebut is's fun :-)07:53
zorglu_enougth for me to say that i dont know anybody able to do :)07:53
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NapalmSMilesi just tried again in root:07:53
NapalmSMilesXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server07:53
NapalmSMilesXlib: No protocol specified07:54
NapalmSMilesrror: unable to open display (null)07:54
zorglu_NapalmSMiles: the issue is the X driver, not the user from which you run the command07:54
zorglu_$ glxinfo | grep render07:54
zorglu_direct rendering: Yes07:54
zorglu_OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20050528 AGP 4x NO-TCL07:54
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zorglu_you should get something like that07:54
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zorglu_the important part being the Yes :)07:54
NapalmSMilesso what do i have to do?07:54
zorglu_maybe try to boot X without xgl07:55
angasuleNapalmSMiles: you might want to check in #ubuntu and the ubuntu and kubuntu email lists07:55
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nuxilhey has anyone played with Kommander ?07:56
zorglu_dont forget google :)))))))07:56
nuxil#join #kde07:56
nuxilerm07:56
NapalmSMilesum wait i need the x base system installed right?07:57
zorglu_NapalmSMiles: well sure07:57
zorglu_NapalmSMiles: what are you running on ?07:57
zorglu_NapalmSMiles: you dont have X ?07:57
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NapalmSMilesdose that come normally with kubuntu?07:57
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NapalmSMilessorry im still new07:58
zorglu_NapalmSMiles: yes :) X is what display the windows on the screen07:58
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NapalmSMileslol ok07:58
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wayne_1980hello all07:58
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zorglu_hmm ok lets try "   xvinfo | grep "number of ports"       " <- put that in a console NapalmSMiles07:59
zorglu_wayne_1980: hello07:59
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wayne_1980hi zorglu, howz u?07:59
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BluesKajok , dumped azureus.. the new version of KTorrent is much more stable and it stays connected ...YES!08:00
NapalmSMilessame as before,08:00
sercikhi again08:00
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serciki use dpkg -l to see which are the package installed08:01
NapalmSMilesshould something go where "number of ports" is?08:01
zorglu_$ xvinfo | grep "number of ports"08:01
zorglu_    number of ports: 108:01
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zorglu_you should get something like that08:01
sercikcould someone explain what rc means08:01
zorglu_rc = release candidate08:01
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zorglu_well it is one possible meaning at least :)08:02
_ptereal crap?08:03
ev1lm1nd666repeat code?08:03
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NapalmSMilesfrost wire slows my computer down like crazy,it starts a process called java that takes up 30-60% of my resources.anyone have a seuggestion for a diffrent p2p?08:05
sercikplease be serious08:05
sercikrc is not release candidate08:05
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buzzy!ntfsresize08:05
angasulesercik: 'rc', in software, means release candidate08:05
serciki try to remove a program and dpkg say that is not installed but only configuration file08:05
buzzy!ntfsresize08:05
buzzy!ntfsresize08:05
buzzy!ntfsresize08:05
buzzy!ntfsresize08:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:05
sercikare present08:05
angasulesercik: oh, yeah, some files have an .rc extension as well08:06
zorglu_sercik: well provide more info in your question, you may get more suitable answre :)08:06
sercikso it tell to use --purge08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:06
zorglu_buzzy: avoid the spammin please08:06
ev1lm1nd666rc= root comand?08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:06
NapalmSMilesretarded computer08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:06
LjL!ops08:06
NapalmSMiles!rc08:06
sercikand when i use --purge and then try again dpkg -l the package doesn't appers anymore08:06
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist08:06
uboturc: an implementation of the AT&T Plan 9 shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-3 (edgy), package size 73 kB, installed size 184 kB08:06
angasulerc has a thousand meanings08:06
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sercikSTOP08:07
sercikrc is in the output of command dpkg -l08:07
angasuleI always think rc == Remote Controlled, and it helps me remember the order in which mathematical matrices are specified, (row, column)08:07
tsdgeoslol, ubotu asked for help :D08:07
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sercikzorglu_: have you understoof?08:08
sercikzorglu_: have you understood?08:08
zorglu_sercik: yep you want the meaning of the .rc suffix generally used for configuration file08:08
zorglu_sercik: and this is a good question :) i have no idea:)08:08
sercikpackages not installed but leave something on hd?08:08
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sorush20hi..08:09
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zorglu_sercik: nope what is left is the config files08:09
sorush20kubuntu is k3b is check sum and I don't really know what to do after that?08:09
zorglu_sercik: and the config files happens to has a .rc in their name08:09
sorush20I get a value but I'm not sure if its correct .. what is the subcheck?08:09
sercikit is possile to know when i use apt-get install package from which repo packade is downloaded08:10
zorglu_http://docs.hp.com/en/B9106-90008/rc.1M.html <- sercik it is the same rc kindof stuff08:10
zorglu_sercik: yep, use 'apt-cache policy yourpackagename'08:11
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sorush20!sum08:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:13
sorush20what is the sum check for the kubuntu iso08:13
zorglu_sorush20: it check if the cd is properly burned08:14
zorglu_aka if the disk is not corrupted08:14
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zorglu_!md508:14
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows08:14
zorglu_i guess the first url explains it08:15
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janos_hi08:20
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serciksomeone have 32 bit ubuntu could send me some files?08:21
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serciki need to use mplayer32 on 64 bit kubuntu08:21
janos_bocs de csak magyarul beszlek :D08:22
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zorglu_!hu08:22
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu08:22
buzzyguys please help me: i open gparted but it shows me /dev/hda1 witha "!" ==> it says that gparted can't read filesystem (it is windows 2000 filessyetm) how can i resize that partition? please answer me whatever you know!! :D08:22
janos_ok08:22
janos_thx08:22
zorglu_!resize08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
zorglu_!msg ubotu resize08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu resize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
_pte!ntfs08:23
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse08:23
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_pte!ntfsresize08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
zorglu_ok it is somewhere in there :)08:23
zorglu_there are some tools to resize ntfs08:23
zorglu_and they are described in the wiki08:23
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RealisticDragonheh hfs+ might be a pain but at least Linux can read it :P08:26
zorglu_http://nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm <- the stuff about ntfs resize08:26
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sorush20how do I make sure there are no error in the iso of kubuntu that I have downloaded?08:32
zorglu_you run the checksum on it :)08:32
zorglu_!md508:32
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows08:32
zorglu_the first link is for you :)08:32
RealisticDragonpfft real men burn the CD and wait for 99% of the install to go by to discover it's broken ;P08:33
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osloRealisticDragon> did u check md5sum before :D ?08:34
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RealisticDragonto be honest, uh, no... im always too lazy, but i have been lucky so far :) only one bad one in a decade or so08:35
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RealisticDragoncan anyone remember what the trawling for imagess software is called? the one that will watch your lan segment for traffic... the name escapes me08:36
RealisticDragonoh, driftnet, nm :)08:36
michelleindeedokay, i'm a moron, i swear. i am trying to upgrade skype and i am having serious issues...08:37
michelleindeedalthough in my opinion skype is crap anyhow08:37
RealisticDragonskype is a static binary right? so, you just unpack click and away you go... or did they change it?08:38
_kuja_Well, they've got debs too08:38
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zorglu_well if you dont like the software, no need to install it then :)08:38
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michelleindeedeh, i've decided to do it so now i'm going to have to08:39
zorglu_if you go against my solutions, stuff wont be as smooth :)08:39
michelleindeedi have issues with my mic anyhow so i figure i may as well upgrade it before i bother fixing the mic..08:39
RealisticDragonzorglu_: not heard of the girfriend imperative then? ;)08:39
_kuja_download the deb ... dpkg -r skype && dpkg -i *.deb?08:39
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michelleindeedi'm downloading the deb pkg08:40
_ptebtw. when u boot livecd in safe vga mode and select 640x480, the boot screen is not resized and u cannot see any messages under the progress bar, which should be fixed08:41
_kuja__pte, if you're talking about edgy, you won't see any messages, safe mode or not.08:41
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_pteand press enter to reboot is not message? ;-)08:42
_kuja_Of course not :D08:42
michelleindeedit's saying something about the utility not being in my PATH08:43
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_kuja_pastebin it?08:43
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michelleindeed?08:43
_kuja_!pastebin08:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:43
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michelleindeedwell, it's not all that large. it just says error - ark, because it opens ark when i click on it.08:44
michelleindeedand then says that ^08:44
_kuja_that's okay, it needn't be opened with ark anyway ...08:44
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michelleindeedi absolutely forgot what to do08:45
_kuja_jeeze ... kde takes forever to compile :o08:45
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RealisticDragonhah i used to run gentoo on a 1 ghz celeron, i know the pain :)08:46
michelleindeedoh wait. just rightclick and install. wow.08:46
RealisticDragonit got so bad my dorm actually set up distcc :)08:46
michelleindeednow i feel very stupid.08:46
zorglu_michelleindeed: time to remove it now08:46
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michelleindeedremove the other one?08:46
_kuja_I think it has been going for about two hours ... watched a movie while I was waiting...08:46
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RealisticDragonwell early KDE builds were 24 hours plus on that machine, so should be under 6 hours on todays computers :)08:47
_ptewhen (hd0,4) is linux partition in grup, then /dev/sda5 is root partiotion in linux, isn't it? is SATA sda or not?08:47
_kuja_RealisticDragon: I'd like to see just h ow long it takes, should be interesting08:48
NapalmSMilescan anyone think of a way to put a iso on an ipod?08:48
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RealisticDragonas a bootable disk NapalmSMiles?08:48
_kuja_RealisticDragon: I had decided that I wanted to have a vanilla kde installed as well, what a time consuming idea08:48
NapalmSMilesyup08:48
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billytwowillydid you guys switch to beryl in edgy when I wasn't looking? I have beryl like window switching and re-running kwin no longer fixes my lack of borders on windows.08:48
raquelfeliz navidad paaara todos08:49
RealisticDragonedgy doesnt have beryl, even with backports, at least on ppc/32 billytwowilly08:49
RealisticDragonno es navidad hoy :P08:49
ninHerigual para ti raquel08:49
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billytwowillyk, is there a beryl/kubuntu support channle?08:49
zorglu_!es08:49
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:49
zorglu_!xgl08:49
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:49
billytwowillythanks08:49
RealisticDragonim not sure NapalmSMiles, sounds interesting though :) i think you can provided it can be read like a normal USB drive08:49
ninHerbrasa el bot este08:50
_kuja_perhaps #beryl?08:50
BluesKajbillytwowilly, have fun if yer using ATI :)08:50
sercikplease i need two files from 32 bit version08:50
RealisticDragonhey, 3d accel works for ATI cards now :)08:50
serciklibsasl2.so.2 => not found08:50
sercik        libgnutls.so.13 => not found08:50
NapalmSMilesit can but i just dont know how to put the iso on it K3B will only burn to cd's08:50
_kuja_uggh08:50
serciksomeone could send me?08:51
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RealisticDragonhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8903 - boot from an ipod into linux for PPC08:51
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ninHerNapalmSMiles: k3b can burn iso's08:51
_pteI wan't to know, how can ati degrade performance in their drivers so much without being noticed of calling delay, looping etc. :-)08:51
NapalmSMilesyes but only to cds,i need it burnt to a ipod08:51
ninHerNapalmSMiles: cd and dvd ones08:51
_kuja_k3b is my hero :D08:51
ninHermine too... lol08:52
RealisticDragonwell it works for mac hardware, so there might be a way to get it working for pcs too :)08:52
ninHerwhy don't you install gnu/linux on your ipod ?08:52
michelleindeedokay, it's upgraded, quite easily in fact.08:53
RealisticDragonbecause that still wont let him boot pcs with it ninHer? ;)08:53
michelleindeednow i just need to get my mic working sometime this year08:53
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sercikkkathman: please help me?08:53
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ninHerRealisticDragon: look at this link and think twice08:53
NapalmSMilesninHer: because the install files in iso format08:53
ninHerhttp://ipodlinux.org/Main_Page08:53
serciksend me libsasl2.so.2 libgnutls.so.13 from your ubuntu08:53
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zorglu_sercik: install it from the repositories08:56
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yumahi there, anyone having trouble opening the gmail inbox with firefox?08:57
cloakableNope. Why not try Kmail?08:58
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inetproyuma: I use gmail and firefox all the time08:58
yumainetpro: have you experienced some issues lately?08:59
inetproyuma: nope08:59
RealisticDragonkmail can read gmail accounts now right? i was looking at it because google offer an smtp server and ICBA to run my own... anyone tried it and know if it works with forged "from" and "return to" headers?08:59
yumainetpro: I see the inbox for a second and then, crash08:59
inetproyuma: i've just been there but lemme try again08:59
yumainetpro: ok09:00
yumainetpro: maybe it's some plugin I've installed09:00
yumainetpro: have you configured the File Picker for firefox?09:00
inetproyuma: no... what doe it do?09:01
yumainetpro: it just changes the file picker from the gtk  based to the qt based09:01
inetproyuma: never used it09:01
eMaX_re09:01
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yumainetpro: it shouldn't be related to that...09:02
eMaX_how, when I boot kubuntu, can I switch off the splash screen and see the boot messages?09:02
naliothyuma: yes, i've noticed trouble in the last week or so.  nothing ever resolves but a white screen09:02
eMaX_like in SuSE, I simply press Esc; is there something similar in Kubuntu?09:02
inetproyuma: still trying to connect... me network connection very slow09:02
yumainetpro: ok09:02
yumanalioth: nothing resolves? what do you mean?09:02
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NapalmSMilessystem setting spalsh screen?09:03
yumaI've found this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/6815109:03
NapalmSMilesmaybe?09:03
inetproyuma: connected no problem09:03
billytwowillylol fix one problem and find another. X is giving me weird errors when I try to start konqueror now. Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16909:03
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billytwowillyany ideas?09:03
The_Machineanyone have a tutorial how i can add my kubuntu machine to a windows 2k domain?  (something more recent?)  Is there some kind of utility that will let me do this automatically, rather than having to edit all sorts of files?09:03
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naliothyuma: it ends up a white (blank) window09:03
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yumanalioth: here it crash09:04
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billytwowillyand when I try to open kaffeine for that matter. same error.09:04
inetproanyone have a solution for remote administering a MAC server from Kubuntu?09:04
yumanalioth, inetpro: in the bug sais it's fixed, but maybe just in the ubuntu repositories09:05
billytwowillyinetpro: ssh?09:05
ramponeany solution for the suspend/hibernate HORRIBLE ERROR ?09:05
inetproI mean something like rdesktop or vnc09:05
RealisticDragonif you need the user interface does NX work?09:05
billytwowillyvnc will work in linux.09:05
RealisticDragoncant remember if there is an OSX server09:05
inetprobillytwowilly: but what do i install on the mac?09:06
NapalmSMileswhat are the advantages of kubuntu over gentoo09:06
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billytwowillyinetpro: search fink for a vnc server? I dunno, I don't really do macs yet;) I'll be more helpful when I get a macbook in a couple months;)09:06
cloakableNapalmSMiles: You don't have to wait ages to install OO.org :)09:07
scipperhi09:07
cloakableNapalmSMiles: Or KDE :P09:07
RealisticDragonmostly its easier to keep it running smoothly NapalmSMiles09:07
scipperdoes anyone has a howto i can run opengl with my radeon x800xt?09:07
RealisticDragonother than that, its all Linux, the actual desktop isnt much different :)09:07
inetprothanks billytwowilly i will do some more googling on fink09:07
NapalmSMileskeep which one running?09:07
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billytwowillyinetpro: fink is like .debs on ubuntu for macs..09:08
billytwowillyinetpro: fink.sf.net I think09:08
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inetproaha09:08
_pteHA! finally! i'm able now to boot from hdd!09:08
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inetprobillytwowilly: fink.sourceforge.net09:09
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billytwowillysf.net redirects there;)09:09
buzgnomefreak: this is somehow related to update initramfs. ever since i run update -k all not even dapper kernel will work anymore09:09
zorglu_!ati | scipper09:09
ubotuscipper: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:09
buzwhich is reaaally unfortunate considering the laptop doesnt have a cdrom09:10
RealisticDragondoes automatix have the ATI drivers in it?09:10
zorglu_RealisticDragon: it is supposed to, yes09:10
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scipperubotu i already installed the atidriver(fglrx) but this doesnt make opelgl run09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i already installed the atidriver(fglrx) but this doesnt make opelgl run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
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scippero009:12
zorglu_scipper: ubotu is a bot09:12
scipperlooks like, didnt know09:12
zorglu_scipper: do "glxinfo | grep render" in a terminal09:12
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RealisticDragonlol my website is being spammed by a bot advertising ubuntu :D09:13
RealisticDragonthe spammers hit a new low... whats next, spamming for cancer charities? :/09:13
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scipperzorglu Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual09:13
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inetprobillytwowilly: do i understand correctly? You install fink and then you install any .dpkg package?09:14
zorglu_scipper: ok do "xvinfo | grep "number of port"" in a terminal09:14
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scipperzorglu number of which port?09:15
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zorglu_xvinfo | grep "number of port" <- type this in the terminal, number of port is a pattern, you dont have to replace it09:16
RealisticDragoninetpro: fink has a built in package manager and list of packages for OSX systems09:16
scipperzorglu oh kk ^^09:16
billytwowillyinetpro: I haven't used it. My understanding is that fink is justa  package manager. So you install fink and then there should be some way to tell fink to download and install software from repositories.09:17
inetproRealisticDragon: wow, sounds very cool... can't wait until tomorrow. Unfortunately the MAC is at work.09:17
scipperzorglu nothin happens on this command. when i just type xvinfo the terminal says no adaptors present09:17
RealisticDragonhttp://www.realvnc.com/download.html << you can download VNC for OSX (and linux) from here09:18
zorglu_scipper: did you install the driver for your card ?09:18
inetprobillytwowilly: will try it tomorrow.. now 22:17 and need some sleep :)09:18
scipperzorglu yes i installes it with apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx09:18
zorglu_scipper: do you have a nvidia by chance ?09:18
scipperno09:19
scipperati09:19
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inetproRealisticDragon: we've tried that at some stage and had a problem but maybe i should try again09:19
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rizwaanhi, anybody using rlocate on (k)ubuntu?09:19
RealisticDragoninetpro: are you going to be running over an insecure network? like the inetnet?09:20
zorglu_scipper: some issue happen today with nvidia kernel, did your stuff worked yesterday or it is the first time you try ?09:20
inetproRealisticDragon: not a chance09:20
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RealisticDragonheh just asking, VNC has no security of its own you see :) but you can use it with port forwarding and SSH09:20
scipperzorglu its the first time i try to. could there be a problem with my ati graficscard and the nforce chpset?09:20
inetproRealisticDragon: yip i know. Thanks09:21
kkathmanmorning (well afternoon) folks09:21
RealisticDragoni used to use it over the campus network redirected via a mail server i had shell access to since it could see both inside and outside the LAN :P09:21
rizwaancould anyone suggest me how to make a "rc.local" like startup script in ubuntu.. to load rlocate module at the startup09:21
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rizwaani came from slackware..09:21
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inetproRealisticDragon: tell me, does OSX have ssh installed by default or do I also install that somehow via fink or other...09:22
buz_inetpro: ssh client is installed by default09:22
RealisticDragonerrr give me a sec and ill check09:22
buz_server i'm not sure09:22
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RealisticDragoni have mac on linux installed on this machine :) its rather slick09:22
zorglu_!tab | scipper09:22
ubotuscipper: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:22
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zorglu_!ati | scipper09:23
ubotuscipper: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:23
_kuja_rizwaan, are you wanting details on how to write the script, or how to get it to run on startup ... or both?09:23
zorglu_scipper: have you followed this tutorial ?09:23
rizwaanget it run on startup09:23
inetprobuz_: interesting...09:23
rizwaanboth would be nice.. :)09:23
inetproRealisticDragon: on Intel?09:23
inetproRealisticDragon: or should i say PC?09:23
scipperzorglu_: no not yet ^^09:24
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eMaXre09:24
zorglu_scipper: ok now is a good time :)09:24
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scipperkk i thought installing the package with apt would be enough09:24
inetproRealisticDragon?09:25
nagyvI would like to write an audio CD from a selection of mp3s and wmas, but for the wma files k3b says that the format is not supported. What can I do?09:25
_kuja_rizwaan, I've no idea what would go into the script, but I can help with the other part. Check that there isn't already somethign in /etc/init.d09:25
eMaXhow can I list all installed packages / deb?09:25
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rizwaanokie dokie09:26
zorglu_rizwaan: dont /msg me, use #kubuntu to ask your questions09:26
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rizwaanokay09:26
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rizwaanwhich file is 'rc.local' equivalent to slackware in (k)ubuntu?09:27
MurchadheMaX, dpkg -l >> applist creates file applist09:27
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inetproeMaX: good question... i've never doen this on the CLI. Anyone?09:27
nagyveMaX: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l > ~/packages09:27
nagyvI have a small sh script for this, if you want I can post it on pastebin09:27
Realistic_Dragonrizwaan: you need to make your own, the article i linked had how to do it :)09:27
eMaXtnx09:27
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Realistic_Dragonoh, i got d/ced, sec ill repost it :o09:28
nagyvanyway, I have to say thank you for this same irc channel, the posted line was received here :)09:28
Realistic_Dragonhttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup09:28
rizwaanok, thanks Dragon :)09:28
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Realistic_Dragonnp, wanted to know myself :)09:28
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gnomefreakbuz_: the head kernel developer is commenting on your bug. he says it should be an easy fix. the instructions will be on the bug report09:29
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scode_I was told by nixternal after i had an issue with my graphics card to put in composite as disabled, now I'm getting this error message saying to enable it09:30
_oshRealistic_Dragon: That isn't the "new and improved" way of doing it is it? The "edgy" way.09:30
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Realistic_Dragonapparently its the debian way09:30
Realistic_Dragonso it probably has dust on it :P09:30
eMaXquestion: does kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic refer to that specific file or symlink in / or in /boot?09:31
buz_gnomefreak: i'm quite positive this is an initrd issue09:31
_oshRealistic_Dragon: Weren't the startup something that they're working on. To improve startup time and move away from the symlinked version into something new that has dependancies between applications. Like samba depend on network and portmap being started...09:31
buz_copying an initrd from another machine seems to have mostly worked09:31
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andres_Hola09:31
gnomefreakbuz_: he knows the issue if hes replying that fast. i trust him on kernel09:31
Realistic_Dragon_osh: oh, hm, i dont know if itll still work then... /etc/init.d is still there on edgy though09:32
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_ptether's no resolv.conf in kubuntu?09:32
_pte!resolv09:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resolv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:32
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_kuja__pte, resolv.conf is in /etc, and it's there.09:34
inetpro_pte: I've always created my own resolv.conf09:34
buz_ok getting the old initram at least gets me back into kubuntu09:34
buz_now for his fix09:34
Rob-Westis Beryl XGL good09:35
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_kuja_beryl + aiglx = better :)09:35
buz_unless you got nvidia09:35
buz_in which case you get black windows when you run out of video ram09:35
Rob-Westwell im getting an Nvidia card09:35
Rob-Westits 128mb09:36
buz_get one with tons of ram if you want to use beryl09:36
Realistic_Dragonhas anyone tried beryl+aiglx on a ppc machine?09:36
yumaHey, anyone having good results with a Intel 915GM integrated on Beryl + Aiglx?09:36
_kuja_decent low-end/cheap nvidia card: geforce 6600gt09:36
buz_-> #ubuntu-xgl09:36
_kuja_(by todays standards)09:36
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zorglu_yuma: good question, im interested by the anwer too :)09:36
Rob-Westim getting an Nvidia 550009:36
buz_even for aiglx09:37
_kuja_sounds ... old09:37
yumazorglu_: I think I wont like the answer :)09:37
jaramillowhere can i find the .torrent for kubuntu (cd, not dvd) ?09:37
buz_wasnt the 5XXX line the ones that sounded like vacuum cleaners09:37
Rob-Westthe guy im getting it from wants me to put Compiz on this computer09:37
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jaramilloin torrent.ubuntu.com i only find dvd's in the release folder09:37
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_kuja_I used to have a 6600gt ... but I sold it to a friend and got myself a 7900gtx :)09:37
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zorglu_yuma: well i got good 3d perf on it. way enougth to play 3d games. so i guess a window stuff could be handled easily :)09:38
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zorglu_yuma: i havent tried tho :)09:38
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jaramilloand cd's under the 'simple' folder. are those cd's final version?09:38
yumazorglu_: I tried but it was slow like hell09:38
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yumazorglu_: I felt asamed of the graphic card... Never tried again09:39
zorglu_yuma: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)09:39
Rob-Westif i went back to windows how would the Nvidia FX5500 game09:39
ernz_cHi everyone, I am new to Kubuntu. I just switched from Ubuntu. Does anyone know if there is a way to change the icons of specific mounted devices and their names in the Storage Media applet?09:39
_kuja_rob-west, if you played a game that was even somewhat new, it would show its weakness very, very quickly09:39
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zorglu_yuma: i run first personn shooter on that at more than 60fps... i wont understand that a 3d stuff doing simple stuff will be slow09:39
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zorglu_yuma: well one day i will try :)09:40
Rob-Westwell im talking like Grand Theft Autos09:40
yumazorglu_: I don't know, but maybe I didn't configured it right09:40
buz_gnomefreak: getting rid of kopt and then have grub use UUID doesnt hep09:40
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yumazorglu_: I tried algo the koroora (something like that, I can't remember the name) and it worked very fast...09:41
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The_Machineis there an easy way to join a windows domain (2000) in ubuntu?  some util or something?09:41
yumazorglu_: but again, in kubuntu it didn't work09:41
zorglu_yuma: ah ok :) then it is more a config issue :)09:41
gnomefreakbuz_: is that what he told you to try?09:41
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zorglu_yuma: i hate to config stuff :) im still on dapper for this reason :)09:41
yumazorglu_: do you see in glxgears the gears move smooth?09:41
inetproThe_Machine: samba?09:42
nagyvhow can I restart the sound daemon? something went here really wrong. Amarok crashes every time when I would like to play something.09:42
zorglu_yuma: yep without any issue09:42
buz_gnomefreak: yes09:42
yumazorglu_: I can't wait for the new software... hehe09:42
gnomefreakbuz_: than put it in the bug report09:42
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zorglu_yuma: http://tremulous.net is what i run on it. with much less details tho :)09:42
yumazorglu_: then, definetly I have something broken09:42
gnomefreakhe will get the email and he will work with you on it09:42
brian_go to the system settings panel and sound, and change the audio driver, it will restart the sound syste09:42
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gnomefreakor fix it.09:42
billytwowillyso if konqueror won't start what's the best way to go about figuring out why? The error messages when I run it in a terminal are uninspiring..09:42
The_Machineinetpro - hmm..  right, it's partially samba09:43
The_Machinei mean, i'm not seeing any *recent* tutorials on how i would join an NT domain with k/ubuntu09:43
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yumazorglu_: hey, it looks better that Cube!09:43
The_Machine:(09:43
The_Machinei know it's easy in a couple of other distros..09:43
buz_currently writing the report09:43
yumazorglu_: I'll give it a try, when exams finish...09:43
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zorglu_yuma: very fun to play, very fast paced09:43
inetproThe_Machine: what you trying to achieve?09:43
yumazorglu_: are you using the i810 driver for X, don't you?09:43
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nagyvbrian_: thx09:44
zorglu_yuma: let me check09:44
brian_np09:44
holgerhi all09:44
zorglu_Driver          "i810" <- yuma09:45
yumazorglu_: I see09:45
zorglu_(WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found09:45
zorglu_(--) Chipset 915GM found09:45
yumazorglu_: I've noticed that it sais to me that DRM failed, I'm talking about glxgears09:45
inetproThe_Machine: sorry i'm a commandline fan... i edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to set thye domain value etc. and then i do smbmount09:46
brian_nagyv: what format are you trying to play in amarok?09:46
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yumazorglu_: hahaha, I don't even have direct rendering, this morning something broke for good09:46
scipperzorglu_: i try to follow the man but i got an error on the step with fglrxinfo09:46
zorglu_yuma: only this morning ? it was ok before ?09:46
scipperzorglu_: same as before Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!09:46
billytwowillyhmm. which -dbg for kde should I use to get debugging symbols out of konqueror?09:47
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yumazorglu_: I left direct rendering yesterday, but today, when arrive to university the whole xorg.conf was broken09:47
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yumazorglu_: I left working*09:48
inetproThe_Machine: i think you have to install smbfs to get smbmount09:48
zorglu_yuma: did you update in the middle, there is an issue with the update on nvideo this morning ?/09:48
holgerubuntu is so nice, but today my mouse is broken, not physically ;-) yesterday i connected my digital camera the first time. Now, after a reboot my mouse is not working anymore, what can i do?, it's so sad.09:48
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andres_hola alguien habla espaol?09:48
yumazorglu_: nope, I didn't09:48
holgerit's an usb mouse09:48
eMaX_yo09:48
RealisticDragoneuthanasia is the only answer, for he was a good and faithful mouse and it would be inhmane to let it suffer09:48
The_Machineinetpro - i can take a command line fan09:48
nagyvbrian_: I don't know exactly what happened. I was playing something while I wanted to convert some wmas2mp3 using this script: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Convert_WMA_to_MP3. It did not succeed, and after amarok said that the sound device is occupied by some other program. I restarted it, and then it did not answered to anything.09:48
The_Machineso i did edit the domain in smb.conf09:48
bgsteffensi'm new from windows to kubuntu, and i cannot figure out for the life of me how to install software (other than getting the packages through the console).. now i'm trying to install thunderbird. it's a .tar.gz file and i can't figure out what i'm supposed to do with it! >_<09:48
inetproThe_Machine: yip09:49
nagyvbgsteffens: use synaptic, that is a user interface for the package manager09:49
The_Machineinetpro: are you joined to a Active Directory domain w/ your kubuntu?09:49
inetproThe_Machine: i think it's still called Workgroup09:49
holgerAny suggestions in troubleshooting mouse-support? Please09:49
RealisticDragonbgsteffens: start up adept and install it from there09:49
RealisticDragonits on the menu under system09:49
inetproThe_Machine: yes09:49
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brian_to install a .tar.gz file install alien from the package manager09:49
nagyvbgsteffens: sorry, no use adept, synaptic is for Gnome (the other ubuntu)09:49
inetproThe_Machine: and it's even a 2003 domain09:50
RealisticDragonbgsteffens: once you have it open you can just type in thunderbird and then click install :) it does everything else for you09:50
nagyvbrian_: for .tar.gz-s he needs build-essentials I think09:50
zorglu_scipper: dunno the answer sorry, the kernel seems to have trouble with 3d today09:50
brian_after that open a terminal window and browse to the directory where the .tar file is09:50
bgsteffensAdept Manager Manage Packages?09:50
holgerIs it possible to redetect the mouse?09:50
nagyvbgsteffens: yes09:50
RealisticDragonholger: unplugging and replugging should pick it up with hotplug09:50
holger:-(09:50
holgerok09:50
brian_the command to change to .deb is  sudo alien packagename09:51
bgsteffensok cool, thank you :)09:51
bgsteffenshas anyone gotten blender to install on kubuntu edgy?09:51
RealisticDragonholger: the mouse works in another machine?09:51
brian_after you change to .deb, just right click and install with package manager.09:51
nagyvbgsteffens: to get access to some non opensource packages you will have to add new repositories to your sources.list file09:52
RealisticDragonbgsteffens: i think blender is in adept09:52
RealisticDragonblender is Open Source nagyv:)09:52
andres_yuma how to register me to talk to you09:52
bgsteffensok thanks =)09:52
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RealisticDragonyes bgsteffens, you can install blender with adept09:52
zorglu_!register | andres_09:52
ubotuandres_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:52
nagyvRealisticDragon: I know, I was not talking about blender09:52
RealisticDragonah ok09:52
holgermmh, i have replugged it, but nothing happens i will try it on another machine, but this was happend after i plugged my digital camera yesterday - i think something has happend with the usb ports, mmh09:53
andres_ok tanks09:53
RealisticDragonyou have tried a different physical port holger?09:53
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holgermom09:53
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holgeryes i tried, but nothing09:54
nagyvbgsteffens: just to know. .tar.gz files in general are source files (not always), so to install them you have to compile it from the source. Package manager is preferred because of security updates and is also more comfortable.09:54
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RealisticDragon:/ sorry holger, its a bit of an odd one that, not seen a broken mouse in a while09:54
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trappistand you're less likely to break your system when you stick with the package manager09:54
bgsteffensnagyv: ok ^^ a question about source code.. what gui libraries for c++ are supported by kubuntu/kde? qT?09:54
billytwowillyguys, I really need some help. I'm running edgy and konqueror won't start. Where do I get the debugging symbols for konqueror? do I use the kdebase ones?09:54
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RealisticDragonbgsteffens: you can install gtk/gnome libs if you like, the ubuntu and kbuntu share repositories and can run side by side09:55
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RealisticDragonxfce/xubuntu as well09:55
brian_Unless you just prefet konqueror, install firefox from adept09:55
bgsteffensnice09:55
RealisticDragonif you want the whole thing install ubuntu/desktop but you dont need to, when you select apps itll automagically install all the things you need (as long as you use adept to do it)09:56
yumabrb09:56
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RealisticDragonbillytwowilly: im sorry im afraid i havent used the debugger with kde before :o09:56
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billytwowillyRealisticDragon: can you offer any other suggestions as to how to figure out why konqueror won't start?09:57
RealisticDragonrun it from the command line and see what error it gives you09:57
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holgeroh, let me tell you i am stupid :-) my mouse was connected through a ps2-adapter for while and stopped working today. now i removed the adapter and plugged in usb and it is working again, very odd. Thanks RD09:58
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Gangsterdoes kubuntu come with 3d desktop as a default in the current version ?09:58
brian_hmm09:58
RealisticDragonlol np holger09:58
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RealisticDragonno Gangster09:58
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billytwowillyRealisticDragon: it gives crap errors. I'll give you an example  Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16909:58
RealisticDragonhopefully the next version will09:58
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Gangstercrud09:58
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holger:-)09:58
billytwowillyafter that there is a bit more, but it essentially just stops.09:58
alejoI have a problem with adept manager "help"09:58
RealisticDragonbillytwowilly: erk, no idea im afraid09:58
loslopezmctux09:58
brian_whats wrong with adept?09:59
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alejoI dont more upgrade kubuntu..09:59
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yumare10:01
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nagyvbgsteffens: I don't know. Actually I do not really understand you question. :)10:05
chris___how can i update kDE to 4.0 version?10:05
alejothe error message is "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "10:05
chris___how can i update kDE to 4.0 version?10:06
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The_Machinei'm trying to figure out why evolution mail would be starting up when i log into KDE10:07
The_Machineit isn't in my KDE Autostart folder10:07
RealisticDragongah i hate google because im on a mexican ip it keeps giving me spanish language websites when i search, even with the terms in english10:07
The_Machinelittle help?10:07
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The_Machinestrange RealisticDragon.  I didn't know google did that :)10:07
RealisticDragonThe_Machine: KDE saves your session when you log off10:07
The_MachineBut i don't run evolution mail..  while i'm on..10:07
RealisticDragonyeah, it redirects to google.co.uk hen you have an english locted ip as well The_Machine10:08
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RealisticDragonis it minimised in the system tray?10:08
The_Machinenope.10:08
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Zerb_Rissdoes anyone know how to get acroread to open PDF files inside Firefox?10:08
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RealisticDragonhm, if you try opening up a console and ps x | grep vol10:08
The_Machinek10:08
RealisticDragonthen kill anything that looks like evolution before logging out and back in10:08
The_Machineinteresting10:09
The_Machinethanks :)10:09
RealisticDragonit might not work :)10:09
yumahmmm, now firefox works ok with gmail10:09
The_Machinei do see evolution stuff10:09
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The_Machinealarm and "data-server"10:09
yumaI don't understand a thing...10:09
The_Machinewhatever that is.10:09
trojan_warI havent had any problems with kubuntu, don't understand why some people have so many probs10:09
RealisticDragonyou can kill it with 'kill -9 insetpidnumhere'10:10
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RealisticDragonor killalll evolution-data-server or whatever might work too :)10:10
mhbHi ... what's the best audio encoder for Kubuntu?10:10
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mhbI need a FLAC -> mp310:11
alejoalguien habla espanol?10:11
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RealisticDragonmhb: mencoder can convert anything more or less, and its scriptabl10:11
RealisticDragone10:11
mhbRealisticDragon: is it xine-based?10:13
LjL!es | alejo10:13
ubotualejo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:13
mhbor mplayer-based?10:13
RealisticDragonno mhb, its mplayer based10:13
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RealisticDragonits a command line transcoder, very feature rich (and a little bit complex) - its great combined with xargs though10:13
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alejogracias :)10:13
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RealisticDragonno, mplayer10:13
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yumaI changed the ui.allow_*File_Picker* in about:config of Firefox 2.0 but the new File Picker (the qt based) didn't recognize my encoding and break the directories with  and so on10:15
yumais there any way of fixing it?10:16
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billytwowillyanyone running beryl with kde? Got a link to a howto? the #ubuntu-xgl stuff appears aimed at gnome users10:16
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trojan_warubotu: tu habla engles muy pecito?10:16
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tu habla engles muy pecito? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:16
mhbis there an encoder which is easy to install and graphical?10:16
trojan_waryeah, go to windows, im sure you would like nero10:16
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RealisticDragonim not sure mhb, i think there probably is :)10:17
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RealisticDragonas for installation, you can use adept which will help you out10:17
RealisticDragonits under system on the menu10:17
billytwowilly!beryl10:17
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl10:17
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RealisticDragonif you open up adept and type in encoder theres a pretty big selection of applications to dig through :)10:18
mhbRealisticDragon: I guess so10:18
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mhbRealisticDragon: but I hoped for a quick recommend, since I need it pretty fast10:19
RealisticDragonhm, id take a look at gtranscode maybe10:19
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dek_i have installed Win32 codecs, but Kaffeine doesn't play XviD, any ideas?10:19
RealisticDragonhttp://www.fuzzymonkey.net/software/gtranscode/10:19
mhbRealisticDragon: thanks10:19
cloakabledek_:  libxine-extracodecs10:20
RealisticDragonnvm, video thing :./ sorry10:20
earl_speaking of beryl. i'm trying to get that running and i get a weird error in my Xorg.0.log. it goes something like this:10:20
sercikw32codecs is for mplayer and not for kaffeine10:20
earl_(EE) RADEON(0): [dri]  RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM [dri]  Disabling DRI.10:20
sercikthat use the xine engine10:20
earl_anyone know what that means10:20
dek_ok10:20
dek_let me try10:20
dek_:P10:20
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Gangsteris there a development version that comes with 3D desktop default ?10:21
dek_works, thanks to both10:21
RealisticDragonthere are instructions to set up a 3d desktop on edgy Gangster10:21
Gangsterim only gonna be running the live cd though10:22
RealisticDragonotherwise i think mandriva (?) has a release at present with a 3d desktop by default if that helps10:22
RealisticDragonahh ok10:22
Gangsterim getting kororaa atm10:22
Gangsterits live cd is 3D10:22
Gangsterim more familiar with ubuntu though10:22
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Red-Sox[away] Two problems, both with flash10:26
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Red-Sox[away] (A) Sound waaay behind in Konq, and (B) NO sound in YouTube10:26
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RealisticDragonRed-Sox[away] : are you running flash 7 or 9?10:27
RealisticDragoni have had both problems with v. 710:27
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Red-Sox[away] RealisticDragon: 910:29
earl_how do you get flash 9?10:29
Red-Sox[away] Er10:29
Red-Sox[away] 810:29
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Red-Sox[away] no10:30
RealisticDragon8 doesnt run on linux :o10:30
Red-Sox[away] 710:30
earl_i didn't think so10:30
RealisticDragonand you install the flash-nonfree package earl_10:30
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Red-Sox[away] RealisticDragon: 7!!one10:30
RealisticDragoni think 9 (beta) is in backports, if its not in universe10:30
elbingI use 9 release from adobe web10:30
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=== Red-Sox[away] fixed it
ernzCan someone help me please, I just installed Kubuntu, and I was trying out themes in the theme manager. I clicked high contrast, now I can't return to default settings. Please? :)10:31
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ernz__Can someone help me please, I just installed Kubuntu, and I was trying out themes in the theme manager. I clicked high contrast, now I can't return to default settings. Please? :)10:32
excitatoryernz_: couldn't you go back into the theme manager and change it to the default?10:32
Red-Sox[away] ernz__: Mistaaake10:32
excitatoryernz__: and there's no need to flood the channel like that.10:32
Red-Sox[away] ernz__: lol10:32
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Red-Sox[away] ernz__: Didn't you see the high contrast preview?10:32
Red-Sox[away] :P10:32
ernz__excitatory, I tried that, it "defaults" to the high contrast every time10:32
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excitatoryernz__: well, logic would dictate that you try a different theme.10:33
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ernz__excitatory: I searched for the default Kubuntu theme, but only found one for Emerald. I wen to KDE-look and it seems as though everything is for another distro or a thrid party style manager!10:34
ernz__Very frustrating10:34
excitatoryernz__: no10:34
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ernz__"No"?10:34
excitatorygo back into the theme manager, and use Plastik, or Keramik or something10:34
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ernz__excitatory: Which one is the Kubuntu default?10:35
elbingkubuntu theme?10:36
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ernz__ebling: I don't see it in there :(10:36
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excitatoryplastik10:39
Zerb_Rissno10:39
Zerb_RissCrystal is the Kubuntu default10:39
Zerb_RissPlatik is the KDE default10:39
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ernz__excitatory: When I click plastik the window decorations look off.10:39
elbingoh, crystal for window decoration, I thought about color theme10:40
elbingsorry10:40
ernz__Zerb_Riss, I don't see crystal for the theme10:40
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Zerb_Risswhat do you mean by theme?10:40
Zerb_Risswhat config page are you on?10:40
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nagyvI would like to try out bzflag, but first it would be nice to practice "at home" on localhost. How can I do that?10:41
ernz__Control Center Modules Menu > Appearance and Themes > Theme Manager10:41
Zerb_Risswhat the... are you using SuSE?10:42
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excitatoryernz__: well that's because a theme encompasses a whole look to the desktop.. i don't use themes.. i use a customized set of window borders, colours, etc.  so if you changed those, then choosing straight up plastik will change those settings to its own.10:42
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Zerb_Rissoh I see it10:43
ernz__Zerb Riss: Add the applet to panel10:43
ernz__:) See10:43
Zerb_Rissyah I don't think Kubuntu uses a theme by default10:43
Zerb_Rissunder Style it uses Plastik10:44
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elbingnot really, neither control center... maybe systemsettings10:44
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excitatoryernz__: if it's really bothering you.. you can always create a new user, and log in as that.10:44
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Zerb_Rissyah well Theme Manager isn't in System Settings, it's only in kcontrol10:45
ernz__excitatory: Sounds like a last ditch - I would be better to reinstall KUbuntu10:45
Zerb_Rissif you want to reset everything, then just rename the .kde folder in your home directory and it will reset your desktop10:45
elbingright. I don't use complete themes... maybe I was wrong for that10:45
ernz__Zerb_Riss: Rrrrrrealy? I will try that now and will be back shortly.10:46
Zerb_Risswell from what I can tell, there isn't a theme for Kubuntu10:46
elbingread Zerb_Riss, is not needed to reinstall10:46
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excitatoryi can't believe this guy10:47
Zerb_RissI just created a Kubuntu Theme lol10:47
elbinglol10:47
Zerb_Risstook like two seconds10:47
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excitatoryhe's convinced that creating a new user is a last ditch solution, so instead, he's going to reinstall..10:48
excitatorythat's insane10:48
Zerb_Rissno10:48
Zerb_Risshe's going to do what I said10:48
elbingnot, that's windows 2003 server10:48
Zerb_Rissi.e. rename the .kde folder in his home directory10:48
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elbingi usually rename k3b around 3 times for week... it hates my DVD's lol10:49
elbingvery useful method10:49
Zerb_Risslol10:49
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ernzThat TOTALLY just worked!!!10:49
Zerb_Riss:)10:49
ernzAwesome.10:49
elbingZerb_Riss: thank for give us Kubuntu Theme10:49
ernzB)10:49
elbinggot o kde-look and upload it lol10:50
Zerb_Risshehehe10:50
ernzI lost all of my panels and stuff, but that was totally worth it.10:50
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Zerb_Rissyah10:50
Zerb_Riss.kde has all of your kde settings in it10:50
Zerb_RissI said rename in case you couldn't get something back10:51
ernz_Where would my desktop settings be saved? :D10:51
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ubuntuhow do i change the partition tables from a live kubuntu cd?10:51
elbingwell, but if he doesn't know anything about change themes in KDE, do you think if he will know to look for individual configuration files?10:52
Zerb_RissI'm not sure, I think it's in .kde/share/config10:52
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Zerb_Risselbing: better than making a whole new user o_O10:52
ernz_elbing: I'm ugly, not stupid.10:52
Zerb_Risslol10:52
elbingright, goingo to silence :p10:52
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elbinghehe, sorry man, it was ironic, that's all10:53
ernz_2nd thoughts, I better just do it manually.10:53
ernz_Oooh ooh, one more question before I go...10:53
ernz_!ask10:53
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:53
ernz_:)10:53
ubuntui messed up my windows bootloader when i tried to put grub on, and i want to change it back, but how do i get read/write access to my ntfs hdd from a live cd?10:54
ernz_...is there a way for me to alter the name/icons of individual icons on the removable storage applet?10:54
Zerb_Risshmm no clue on that one10:54
RealisticDragonif you want to write to an NTFS disk you need to use NTFS_captive I think (blame microsoft for that one :( ) its on the ultimate boot CD linux distro, not sure about k/ubuntu10:54
ernz_The reason I ask is because I bought a USB card reader today, but it registers as a UsbDisk, with a USB pen drive icon, when it isn't. It gets more confusing because I do also have an actual pen drive plugged in too.10:55
elbingubuntu, if you want to restore your MBR, try booting from windows cd and from console type "fixmbr"10:55
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ubuntui just need to change my boot.ini back, but don't have write access to it10:55
ernz_elbing: Would "bootfix/fixboot" be of any use also?10:56
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ubuntui could fix it from linux if i could get linux installed on here, but i can't get my partitions correct.  and don't know how to from this cd10:57
dhq__hey all10:58
Schuenemannhow can I choose to open files with a double-click, instead of a single one?10:58
dhq__my x doesnt wrk10:58
dhq__fdoving: you there ^^10:58
ernz_Scheunemann: I actually know the answer to that one!!! Wait a sec and I will tell u10:58
Schuenemannk10:58
RealisticDragonstart:system settings:eyboard and mouse10:59
Zerb_RissSchuenemann: System Settings->Keyboard & Mouse->Mouse->Double-click to open files radio button10:59
ernz_What realisticdragon said, then check "Double click to..."10:59
Schuenemannwhere is keyboard & mouse?10:59
ernz_This could have been my first fix, and you guys steal my thunder?10:59
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RealisticDragonsorry ernz_ :)10:59
elbingheh11:00
ernz_Click on the Big K in the corner, and then System Settings11:00
ernz_Keyboard and mouse is 3rd row, second column11:00
SchuenemannI found it... but keyboard and mouse are 2 separate entries11:00
Schuenemannat least in dapper11:00
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ernz_Mouse then?11:00
Schuenemannworking now, thank :p11:00
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elbinggood job ernz_ :p11:01
ernz_Schuenemann: Awesome. Damn I am good.11:01
Schuenemannhehe11:01
Schuenemannright duke11:01
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Zerb_Rissway to go ernz11:01
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xenolhi can someone help me how to install gfxboot for GRUB? pm me11:02
ernz_Zerb_Riss: You can take this one....11:02
ernz_heh11:02
Zerb_Risslol11:02
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Zerb_RissI don't even know what gfxboot is, but I'd like to :)11:03
xenolhh11:03
xenolwait i give u a link11:03
ernz_lol11:03
elbingdid anyone probe xgl unde kubuntu?11:03
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elbings/une/under11:03
Zerb_Rissxenol: this might help: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/GfxBoot11:04
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ernz_!gfxboot11:04
ubotugfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.23-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB11:04
Zerb_Rissit actually looks pretty cool11:05
Zerb_Rissmaybe my wife could figure out how to start my comptuer with that11:05
Zerb_Riss:)11:05
xenolhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20885511:05
SchuenemannI leave windows as default for my sister11:05
ernz_Zerb: I'm getting my cat to do it for me...11:05
Zerb_Risslol11:05
ernz_I'll just screw it up.11:05
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ernz_Windows.... "lol".11:06
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Schuenemannxenol: have you tried sudo apt-get install gfxboot ?11:06
xenolzup11:06
xenolyup11:06
xenoli removed grub but couldnt do this11:06
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elbingI leave bsd for my wife... she's a very complicated woman :p11:07
xenolnvm find my mistake11:07
ernz_If anyone ever needs to know how to establish a Citrix server within Debian based distros, I totally figured it out earlier.11:07
Schuenemannwrite a tutorial11:07
ernz_Scheunemann, I modified one I found online and am submitting it to my college 2moz.11:08
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Schuenemannyou know, you can type part of a nick and hit TAB :p11:08
alieskyhello11:08
ernz_Has anyone in here dabbled with Beryl yet?11:08
alieskyHow can i econfigure my TimeZone??11:08
ernz_Does it even work with Kubuntu?11:08
RealisticDragoni believe it does ernz_, theres a big howto somewhere11:09
elbingaliesky: right mouse button11:09
ernz_Aliesky, right click clock > timezones > configure timezones.11:09
elbingover clock, of course11:09
Zerb_Rissit works with Kubuntu11:09
Zerb_RissI'm running it now11:09
ernz_Zerb_Riss, I tried on Ubuntu, and was successful at installing it 1 and a half times out of five.11:09
Zerb_Risslol11:10
Zerb_Rissit's easy to install11:10
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ernz_Zerb_Riss: Perhaps you have a DECENT howto?11:10
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Zerb_Rissjust the one provided by Beryl11:11
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Zerb_Risshttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA11:11
ernz_Zerb_Riss: I has it working fine, BEFORE I "dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg"'d11:11
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Zerb_Rissoh you probably overwrite your xorg.conf file, in that case11:11
ernz_Zerb_Riss: I need resolution 2048x1024 you see.11:12
ernz_So how would I do BOTH, install beryl AND change my res.11:12
ernz_I did it once, but that was just using random key-presses for 8 hours until it magically worked.11:12
Zerb_Risslol11:13
ernz_Zerb_Riss: That wasn't a joke.11:13
ernz_:|11:13
Zerb_Risscan't you change your resolution in System Settings->Computer Administration->Monitor & Display->Screen Size?11:14
ernz_Zerb_Riss: Highest shown is 1024x76811:14
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ernz_Zerb_Riss: And the driver it is currently using is "nv" when i know it should be using "nvidia"11:15
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tomaczechi11:15
Zerb_Rissdid you install the latest nvidia driver?11:15
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ernz_Zerb_Riss: Heres the story:11:15
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xenoldamn i scared of removing GRUB last time i had to reinstall kubuntu :/11:16
xenol? restrictedformats11:16
Schuenemann!restrictedformats11:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:17
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compilerwriterCan anyone please help me do a backup of my evolution stuff.  I am having trouble figuring out how to get the job done.  It is my last task before a clean re-install.11:17
weswh-how buggy is Beryl? and if you install it, does it take over your system, or is sort of optional? the expose like feature and the program switcher i would consider using...along with some of the translucency and such. the cube..nah11:19
ernz_Zerb_Riss: I have used ubuntu for the last year. Went from Dapper, to Edgy. I got beryl to work on edgy. I have always used scripted installers (Combinations of automatix, and easy ubuntu) which took care of my graphics driver too. My little brother bought me a new phone, and It uses bluetooth, I have a dingle dongle but Gnome is USELESS when it comes to bluetooth support, and all the KDE tools were buggy at best. Yesterday I started using KDE and it's been a11:19
ernz_bitter sweet relationship so far. All of my devices are much better to interact with including bluetooth. What I would really like, is for a fully working Kubuntu system, with all the stuff I has from automatix, and beryl, and the correct drivers for my graphics card. Not asking for much, just that. Reckon it's dooable?11:19
ernz_Weswh: Same boat11:19
compilerwriter? evolution backup11:20
Zerb_Rissernz_: sure ;)11:20
Schuenemanncompilerwriter: use exclamation, not question mark11:20
compilerwriter!evolution backup11:20
ubotuevolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB11:20
Zerb_Rissyou should be able to get Beryl working with that link I pasted11:20
ernz_Weswh: I have had beryl working before. it's sweet.11:20
ernz_Zerb_Riss: Problems I face with beryl are: screwed up video playback after installing Beryl, and the resolution thing I was talking about earlier.11:21
angasuleberyl is very unstable, crashes often, I wouldn't (and don't) use it while working11:21
RealisticDragoni guess im lazy before i would have broken things happily installing it, now im just waiting patiently for it to get integrated :P11:21
weswh-yeah, i have mixed feelings. part of me thinks if it aint broke don't fix it. but i used to have a mac, and did enjoy some of the glitz11:21
weswh-not that kde in and of itself is dull or anything11:21
angasuleas for automatix et al, it's a *legal* problem in the USA and its colonies11:22
ernz_Angasule: I hate to agree.11:22
jhutchins_wkCould someone check this stream: http://kcurstream.umkc.edu:8002/listen.pls11:22
jhutchins_wkIt's supposed to be 128k MP3, but I get "no demux available".11:22
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angasuleI want a hot blonde delivered with my shipit CDs, why can't I have that?11:22
ernz_Angasule: "As for automatix"... and if you live in Scotland :D11:23
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HymnToLifeernz_, Automatix stinks wherever you live :p11:23
jhutchins_wkIs bery still gnome only, or does it use KDE now?  (Or is it it's own thing?)11:24
angasuleernz_: Scotland is a colony of a colony of the USA :P11:24
RealisticDragonamerica was founded based on a healthy disrespect for law and order, i dont see why that should change now ;)11:24
angasulereally, software patents and all that silliness...11:24
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xenolwhy doesnt adept manager start when i enter password?11:24
ernz_HymnToLife: Automatix, in fairness, is the reason why a lot of people stick with X/K/Ubuntu, and don't revert back to windows....11:25
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HymnToLifeernz_, so what ?11:25
ernz_Angasule, Scotland is a colony of a colony of the USA :P << I have no idea what that means. :)11:25
RealisticDragonhe is talking about us brits11:25
ernz_HymnToLife: You lost me.11:25
Zerb_Rissernz: Beryl does mess up video playback, it's a bug in the program11:25
angasuleernz_: just making random fun of a country :P11:25
RealisticDragonwhat he doesnt realise is that scotland runs england rather well11:25
angasuleScotchland is nice11:25
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ernz_RealisticDragon: I know that, I just can't tell it it's good or bad making fun.11:26
RealisticDragonscots have more people in cabinet per person by far11:26
compilerwriterCan anyone talk me through a backup of my evolution data please?11:26
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RealisticDragonsorry compilerwriter, i dont use evolution11:26
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Zerb_Rissme neither11:26
xenoli cant start adept where can i see running active procceses plz?11:26
RealisticDragonyou might have more luck in the ubuntu channel as I believe evolution is default for ubuntu?11:26
RealisticDragonmost people here probably use kmail11:27
HymnToLifeme neither (Thunderbird fanboy inside :p)11:27
Zerb_RissI'd love to walk you through it, but I have no idea what to tell you11:27
compilerwriterYou Scots can be credited with my favourite drink.11:27
RealisticDragonxenol: try running a terminal and then typing 'ps x'11:27
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compilerwriterThen again you are also responsible for golf.11:27
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compilerwriterI guess we will call it a wash11:27
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ernz_For any Americans in the room who aren't aware: London is not a country. England is. Scotland is a country. Wales is a country. Ireland is a country. All of the aforementioned countries are part of Britain (UK).11:28
compilerwriterThanks for the advice though.11:28
HymnToLife[23:26]  <compilerwriter> You Scots can be credited with my favourite drink. <= and for my favourite chess opening :D11:28
xenolrealisticdragon does adept_manager acuse that i acnt run adept ?11:28
RealisticDragonsorry we cant help more compilerwriter, good luck11:28
ernz_HymnToLife> A head-butt to the face is a chess move???11:28
compilerwriterThanks for advice11:28
HymnToLifewhen playing White, when playing Black I still like my French ^^11:28
RealisticDragonxenol: ksudo can be a tiny bit fussy sometimes i find, have you tried running it from the terminal with sudo adept?11:28
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xenolno11:29
RealisticDragonok, you can bring up a terminal with start>system>console11:29
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ernz_compilerwriter > You still there?11:29
xenoli have console opened11:29
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RealisticDragonok, type sudo adept11:30
xenoli also typed sudo apt -get install flashplugin-nofree11:30
xenoland it says uknown command :/11:30
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HymnToLifethat's most certainly because it's 'apt-get'11:30
RealisticDragonapt-get is all one word11:30
xenolit is running11:30
xenolbut am interested whz so late :/11:31
compilerwriterI am still here yes11:31
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RealisticDragonadept is running for you now? or apt-get?11:31
compilerwriterI am in both channels11:31
RealisticDragonxenol: the other thing you might find useful is apt-cache search flash (this apt-cache search shows you the things that apt-get can install)11:31
compilerwriterernz_  Do you have some help for me?11:31
ernz_compilerwriter: I might, is it the mails you are trying to export, and then import again on your new installation?11:32
compilerwriterThat would be what I am after.  I was going to reformat and then reinstall.11:33
ernz_compilerwriter: I have done this myself, sorry I didn't speak up earlier, I am stupid.11:33
compilerwriterThere was also Calendar stuff too.11:33
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compilerwritercontacts and the like.11:33
buzzy!grub11:34
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:34
compilerwriterWould be good just to know how to do backups etc.11:34
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ernz_From what I can remember, if you goto the mail section, and then, folder at a time, if I am right, select all the mails in that folder, then click file, and I THINK there is an export option. Name the file what that folder is called.11:34
ernz_Repeat for each folder, and I assume the procedure is identical/similar for contacts and calender entries.11:35
xenol!kpilot11:35
ubotukpilot: KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1887 kB, installed size 4348 kB11:35
compilerwriterThanks ernz I will give it a go.11:35
xenolwat for is Kpilot good that i have i required to install thorugh update?11:35
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ernz_compilerwriter: I think I have the procedure bookmarked. Please hold...11:36
compilerwriterroger wilco ernz_11:36
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ernz_compilerwriter: Sorry, can't find the links BUT....!11:37
xenolplz wat for is Kpilot?11:38
xenol!gfxboot11:38
ubotugfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.23-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB11:38
ernz_A little bird showed me a cool trick earlier. Perhaps just copying your ENTIRE .evolution folder back on your new installation will retain everything?11:38
xenol!firefox11:38
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:38
ernz_Zerb_Riss: Whats the liklihood of that working?11:38
xenol!movieplayer11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about movieplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:39
xenol!xine11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:39
compilerwriterI don't know how the messages are stored in evolution, hopefully that will work though.11:39
TheGateKeeperwhat the ls option to get the permissions?11:39
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ernz_Compilerwriter: It seems to work for everything else in Linux :)11:40
compilerwriterernz_ how did yo play elevator music11:40
compilerwriterI have forgotten how do to emotes like that.11:40
Murchadhcompilerwriter, You should tar your home folder with tar -cvzf home.backup.tar.gz /home. Then check it with tar -tvf | less to see all the files are backed up.11:40
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xenolrealisticdragon plz wat for is kpilot?11:41
ernz_Compilerwriter: Murchadh sounds smarter than me. Do what he says instead as a precaution :)11:41
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crazyreddwolfhello i would like to set up a easy ftp server, i have gone through the server guide on my linux  machine but could not figure it out and i have seen the web sight for it too and still nothing could someone help walk me through it11:42
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compilerwriterThanks murchadh but I don't want to end up with the same problems I am having now.11:42
compilerwriterSomehow I have bolluxed things and I have no clue where. Therefore I am just trying to save data that I know is needed and will be innocuous.11:42
Murchadhcompilerwriter, Check to see if there is an evolution folder. Check in ~/.kde/share/apps. You could just backup this folder.11:43
compilerwriterok11:43
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ernz_Murchadh: Not the /home/ folder?11:43
ernz_:S11:43
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Murchadhernz_, ~/ is a shortcut for home.11:43
ernz_Murchadh: Ignore me. I'm going ~.11:44
ernz_Exactly...11:44
Murchadhhehe11:44
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LeeJunFan~ is where you makefile it.11:44
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ernz_LeeJunFan: That's deep man. Real deep. "Home is where you makefile it"11:45
angasule!kpilot11:45
ubotukpilot: KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1887 kB, installed size 4348 kB11:45
sikuni just installed kubuntu on my laptop and i've noticed so far the cpu fan hasn't turned on.... i was just wondering if there is something else i need to do?11:45
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ernz_LeeJunFan: That's deep man. Real deep. "Home is where you makefile it"11:46
ernz_Right, I better go now before I screw up any more computer related stuff. Thanks all for your help.11:46
LeeJunFan:)11:46
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crazyreddwolfhello i would like to set up a easy ftp server, i have gone through the server guide on my linux  machine but could not figure it out and i have seen the web sight for it too and still nothing could someone please help me out11:46
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kkathmancrazyreddwolf:  sudo apt-get install proftpd11:49
kkathmanthen just Google the home page for details11:49
crazyreddwolfcould not find package list kkathman11:50
kkathmancrazyreddwolf:  be sure all of your repositories are enabled11:51
crazyreddwolfok11:51
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compilerwriterMurchadh unfortunately not11:52
Bubba_Gumpis there a shortcut-key to minmize the current window?11:53
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kkathmanBubba_Gump:  you can set one up...use the kcontrol or system settings and set your shortcuts11:54
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flaccidBubba_Gump: check your system settings - > regional and accessibility > keyboard shortcuts -> windows | minimise window11:54
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flaccidif anyone has logitech keyboard multimedia keys working pls let me know11:57
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crazyreddwolfok as far as i know all my respitories are on11:58
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kkathmancrazyreddwolf:  do an apt-cache search ftp and look for proftpd  it should be there, if not, you definitely dont have all the repos turned on12:00
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kkathmanor you might still have your cd-rom set in your sources.list12:01
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crazyreddwolfyour talken about in the adept manager right12:03
kkathmanwhatever method you use12:04
kkathmanadept, synaptic, cli12:04
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crazyreddwolfi had looked in the adept manager and found stuff on ftp but none for proftpd12:05
tomlikestorock1why is it that when I turn on my laptop, and I start typing to log in, my first keypress is always ignored? How do I fix that?12:05
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bgsteffensok i'm getting really frustrated to add mp3 support to kaffeine or amarok12:05
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kkathmancrazyreddwolf:  here's what comes up toward the bottom of my apt-cache search ftp:  proftpd - Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon12:06
bgsteffensi see tutorials on the net that tell me to open an mp3 file in amarok and it will prompt me to install mp3 support, but amarok just crashes, as does kaffeine12:06
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MasterLexxhey12:06
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crazyreddwolfat the bottom of mine came up with vsftpd12:07
MasterLexxhow can i see the directories of my partition? i am logged in as standard user and konqueror shows me / with only home and media12:07
crazyreddwolfi have kubuntu 6.06.112:07
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kkathmanbgsteffens:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:07
kkathmanscroll down and find the mp3 section12:08
MarcC-Linuxhi, I'm using Edgy and it has Firefox 1.5 installed - how do I get 2.0?12:08
bgsteffens Open Amarok and play an mp3 file. Amarok will ask if you would like to add mp3 support and then install the libxine-extracodecs package.12:08
bgsteffensbut amarok only crashes12:08
kkathmanor go to wiki.kubuntu.org and look in the documentation section for mp312:08
tomlikestorock1anyone ever have that problem? the first keypress is ignored?12:08
kkathmantypically all you have to do is 1) be sure you have xine and amarok-xine installed, and then install the w32codecs12:08
bgsteffensxine and amarok-xine??12:09
kkathmanbgsteffens:  sudo apt-get install amarok-xine    then go into amarok and under settings, change the engine to xine12:10
kkathmanbe sure you've installed the w32codecs12:10
bgsteffenshow do i install w32codecs? sudo apt-get install w32codecs?12:10
lenscapehow do I get kubuntu to leave the search list in resolv.conf alone?12:11
kkathmanbgsteffens:  yep12:11
bgsteffenskkathman: it couldn't find the package12:11
lenscapeit keeps getting reset - presumably when the lease is renewed12:11
kkathmanwhich package?12:11
bgsteffensw32codecs12:11
kkathmanyou'll need to enable restricted-formats in your sources12:11
crazyreddwolfi just went back in to the repos and made sure they were all turned on12:12
bgsteffensis that in my um12:12
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bgsteffensthat list with commented out places to find packages?12:12
kkathmanyes, some may be commented out12:12
bgsteffenswhat's the path of that file agian? >< sorry to be such a bother12:12
tomlikestorock1why not just use easyubuntu?12:13
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kkathmanif you are editing it directly... use kdesu kate then edit /etc/apt/sources.list12:13

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