[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> like that
[12:07] <sfllaw> Yup.
[12:07] <sfllaw> Just like that.
[12:09] <somerville32> :] 
[12:09] <somerville32> Awesome.
[12:09] <somerville32> Thanks so much! :] 
[12:09] <sfllaw> No worries.
[12:10] <sfllaw> You might want to hit up dholbach for some words about MOTU next.
[12:10] <sfllaw> (He also gives hugs.)
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75533 in widelands (universe) "app stop during battle" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75533
[12:10] <Admiral_Chicago> he's asleep right now iirc
[12:11] <sfllaw> That's true.
[12:11] <sfllaw> Well.
[12:11] <sfllaw> Or if he's not, he's jamming on his turntables.
[12:19] <red_herring> hey im kinda new at helpin with bugs
[12:19] <red_herring> but i came across this bug
[12:19] <sfllaw> red_herring: Welcome!
[12:19] <red_herring> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/49884
[12:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 49884 in hal "There's a hal error if you mount smbfs devices in fstab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[12:20] <Admiral_Chicago> btw red_herring because we have Ubugtu here, we can just say something like Bug #1
[12:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[12:20] <red_herring> oh i see
[12:20] <red_herring> well
[12:20] <red_herring> iirc smbfs devices arent supposed to be put in fstab at all
[12:20] <red_herring> am i correct on that one?
[12:20] <sfllaw> Mmm.
[12:21] <sfllaw> This can be considered a bug.
[12:21] <sfllaw> Pre-HAL, this worked fine.
[12:22] <red_herring> so should ijust leave it?
[12:22] <Admiral_Chicago> RJ i think you can confirm it
[12:23] <red_herring> k
[12:23] <sfllaw> I'm not sure if it's a HAL bug or a bug in initscripts (/etc/init.d/waitnfs.sh)
[12:23] <sfllaw> But smbfs should work exactly the same as NFS.
[12:24] <red_herring> n00b question but: who should i assign it to?
[12:24] <coNP> I did some triaging and wrote to the developer and bug #63098 got fixed in CVS. What is the next step? Should I change the status or write to the packager?
[12:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63098 in tilda "Tilda segfaults if hotkeys are not prefixed (eventually with "None+")" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63098
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75534 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "linux-kernel-devel depends on a package in universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75534
[12:25] <Admiral_Chicago> you don't have to assign them to people
[12:25] <red_herring> Admiral_Chicago: k
[12:26] <Admiral_Chicago> most developers know what what they are work on, so they will see the bugs red_herring
[12:26] <red_herring> kk
[12:27] <jacobmp92> Admiral_Chicago, when you "claim" a bug to triage, aren't you supposed to assign it to yourself until the bug is confirmed/rejected?
[12:28] <Admiral_Chicago> jacobmp92: depends on the bug can you give an example
[12:28] <Admiral_Chicago> you can set an option "email me about changes to this bug report"
[12:28] <Admiral_Chicago> which is what i do some times
[12:28] <jacobmp92> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage under Complete reports
[12:29] <jacobmp92> i guess it is usually for Needs Info types of bugs
[12:29] <Admiral_Chicago> no i mean are you working on a bug yourself?
[12:29] <sfllaw> jacobmp92: Yes, that is for Needs Info.
[12:29] <jacobmp92> not at the moment
[12:29] <jacobmp92> ah ok :)
[12:29] <sfllaw> jacobmp92: But after that's over, you set it back to Nobody.
[12:29] <jacobmp92> right
[12:29] <sfllaw> jacobmp92: Unless you are the one fixing the bug.  :)
[12:29] <jacobmp92> :-p
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75535 in libnss-ldap (universe) "cannot connect to ldap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75535
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see jacobmp92
[12:31] <Admiral_Chicago> yes sfllaw is correct, i didn't realize that was the method of triaging
[12:31] <jacobmp92> heh, i really read up on the wiki before triaging :D
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i didn't, i skimmed it
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> but i read it well now
[12:32] <coNP> sorry for being impatient, could you read my previous question?
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> red_herring: i would update yourself on the wiki as well
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> coNP: Fix Release
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry didn't read it
[12:33] <sfllaw> Admiral_Chicago: Huh?
[12:33] <coNP> isn't Fix Released for fixes that have been released?
[12:33] <sfllaw> coNP: Yes.
[12:33] <coNP> I mean as ubuntu packages?
[12:33] <sfllaw> Yes.
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> isn't that the correct status to use?
[12:33] <sfllaw> coNP: Are you the one to be fixing it?
[12:33] <coNP> Therefore I think I should not use this now.
[12:34] <sfllaw> Wow, I sound like a sailor.
[12:34] <jacobmp92> Fix Committed I believe is what you use when it's fixed upstream but not in Ubuntu yet
[12:34] <coNP> sfllaw: no, it got fixed upstream, and I try to figure out what to do now... :)
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> so it needs to be synced correct
[12:34] <coNP> What are sailors like, anyway? :)
[12:34] <coNP> I think sync is only for debian packages.
[12:34] <sfllaw> coNP: Best leave a comment saying that upstream has fixed the bug.
[12:35] <sfllaw> coNP: If you want to sync it from Debian, you may attempt to build a new package with the fix.
[12:35] <coNP> Okay, but I think the package maintainer isn't subscribed to this bug. Or is it automagic for the packages he maintains?
[12:35] <sfllaw> Automagic!
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> coNP: no someone takes the package from upstream and builds the package for ubuntu
[12:35] <sfllaw> And it can be synced from Debian, as it was originally a Debian package.
[12:36] <sfllaw> Oy.
[12:36] <coNP> Sorry. I asked if the package maintainer is automatically subscribed to receive notifications about the changes in bugs concerning packages he maintains.
[12:36] <sfllaw> coNP: Yes, he should be.
[12:36] <coNP> I think, Admiral_Chicago you answered something else :)
[12:37] <coNP> Okay, thanks :)
[12:37] <coNP> What is "In Progress" status for, anyway?
[12:37] <Admiral_Chicago> coNP: i'm confused so I'm just going to dinner
[12:37] <sfllaw> Admiral_Chicago: Have fun!
[12:37] <sfllaw> coNP: In Progress means the assignee is actively fixing the bug.
[12:38] <sfllaw> coNP: Fix Committed usually means the fix is available SOMEWHERE.
[12:38] <sfllaw> I believe this is documented in the Bugs/CommonTasks wiki page.
[12:38] <coNP> Sorry for being confusing...
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75537 in kdebase (main) "[feisty]  kdebase-data <> kcontrol conflict. trying to overwrite." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75537
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75538 in psmisc (main) "fuser -s changes return value" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75538
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75539 in python-xlib (universe) "Edgy python-xlib dependent on python2.5, should be python2.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75539
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75540 in tar (main) "Please sync tar (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75540
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75536 in libpam-ldap (universe) "can't create passwords greater then 8 characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75536
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75541 in libpam-ldap (universe) "pam_access module doesn't work with pam_ldap" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75541
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75543 in gaim (main) "crash after paste, reproducible always (for me)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75543
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75544 in Ubuntu "Dell XPS M1210: Screensaver leaves video corrupted (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75544
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75545 in texlive-extra (universe) "ttf2afm is missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75545
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69195 in firefox (main) "Unable to load Web Pages. Synaptic, Pan problems" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69195
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69370 in casper (main) "Kubuntu specific - Locale problem in text consol" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69370
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75547 in Ubuntu "Lan Card and Bass problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75547
[02:20] <bddebian> Boo
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> ahhh!
[02:28] <bddebian> Heya Jucato :-)
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75548 in nvu (universe) "Gnome restarts while NVU is idle and a page is displayed in Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75548
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75549 in apt (main) "Cannot upgrade Dapper->Edgy without update-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75549
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> is that really a bug?
[02:44] <Jucato> :)
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> oh I see
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> it's actually a good bug to report, i should ask in -doc
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75551 in evolution (main) "Evolution only display window message's content at the 1st when the message's window is opened" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75551
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75553 in sl-modem (multiverse) "Modem silent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75553
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75554 in network-manager (main) "Unable to connect to SSID containing asterisks (*)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75554
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75555 in partman-md (main) "Software Raid Setup with feisty herd1 alternate on amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75555
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75556 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Reports 0% battery left, while ACPI says something different..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75556
[03:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75557 in openoffice.org (main) "instal python-uno broken: /usr/bin/pycentral::default_runtime.remove_byte_code() : 'NoneType' object" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75557
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73537 in devede (multiverse) "Devede needs vcdimager software" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73537
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75559 in Ubuntu "Limited Sound in Edgy (Kubuntu) on HP Pavilion DV1717tu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75559
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69161 in xchat (universe) "error message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69161
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75560 in libnotify (main) "Libnotify does not set window role properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75560
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75561 in gnome-hearts (universe) "Hearts crashed upon launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75561
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75562 in gcc-4.1 (main) "brooken dependence" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75562
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75563 in ubiquity (main) "executing 'grub-install (hd1) failed'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75563
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75565 in seahorse (universe) "crash while adding keyserver.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75565
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75566 in Ubuntu "No sound output on Ubuntu 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75566
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71673 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice.org 2.02 word freezes my amd64" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71673
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75567 in rdesktop (main) "crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75567
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75568 in dasher (universe) "Floating Point Exception (core dumped)" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75568
[06:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75569 in kdepim (main) "kpilot flakey with palm t|x // nukes data" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75569
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75570 in Ubuntu "Skype not in edgy-commercial" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75570
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75571 in banshee (universe) "Banshee should support syncing playlists to iPods" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75571
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75572 in Ubuntu "Segmentation fault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75572
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75575 in firefox (main) "Firefox Crashes When Opening File Upload Dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75575
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75576 in Ubuntu "No URI Handler implemented for "DVD"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75576
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71913 in xorg (main) "X appears to crash randomly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71913
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75578 in drupal (universe) "Newer version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75578
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75579 in wesnoth (universe) "Crash during the game" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75579
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75580 in hardinfo (universe) "Crashed when checking storage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75580
[09:42] <davmor2> Can some please confirm or reject this bug.  It doesn't happen at all in 64bit so I think it might be a 32 bit problem. bug 74400
[09:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74400 in libnotify "bubbles are placed in the bottom-right corner" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74400
[09:43] <kkubasik> hey, did someone change the colors of the translation bars in launchpad?
[09:48] <kkubasik> http://www.flickr.com/photos/qub333/321152184/
[09:48] <kkubasik> I'm testing out some trunk builds of FF and not sure if that's a rendering bug or just launchpad being cooler-looking
[09:52] <dholbach> good morning
[09:55] <kkubasik> dholbach: hey, how's it going?
[09:55] <dholbach> heya kkubasik
[09:56] <dholbach> fine fine... just need some tea to get started :)
[09:56] <dholbach> how are you?
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> omg i shouldn't have spent the whole day doing ubuntu stuff
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75581 in texmacs (universe) "Mathematica plugin for TeXmacs broken in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75581
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> someone help with a general LP question?
[10:14] <owh> Just wondering what the protocol is for editing/adding/removing tags. I've been searching for bugs with the word ThinkPad in them and tagging them accordingly - seeing that I have one of those, and I figured I could help out in a small way. In the process I've also edited tags where the majority of the tags were plural and a few singular. General house-keeping was my goal.
[10:14] <dholbach> good work owh
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> owh: also, try doing feisty for any marked feisty in the subject
[10:15] <owh> Cool, so I'm not stepping on anyone's toes?
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> that should read hugs*
[10:15] <dholbach> in some cases tags were absolutely pointless, like tagging a bug in the package 'hal' as 'hal' or bugs in the package 'epiphany-browser' as 'epiphany'
[10:15] <dholbach> but people keep on inventing new tags :)
[10:15] <owh> Yeah, that's what I figured too.
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> some are neccesary like feisty, as I said before
[10:15] <dholbach> "two" was the most interesting tag I found
[10:15] <dholbach> right
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> I can't link to my wiki page because I already own it
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75582 in Ubuntu "Edgy LiveCD : unexpected volatility & persistance of files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75582
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75583 in firefox (main) "Here is a crash report from when I logged on to firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75583
[10:16] <owh> Also, if I see something that falls into another category, or tag, I add that also.
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> owh: package names are VERY useful
[10:17] <owh> I've been favouring "Unconfirmed bugs", figuring that someone meant them to be confirmed.
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe you can show me what you mean
[10:18] <owh> Admiral_Chicago: As tags, or as a package name?
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> package
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> if you can reproduce any, that would be great
[10:18] <owh> Sure, I've left those alone for the moment.
[10:18] <owh> That's been my intent, hence me starting with Thinkpad bugs :-)
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, if you decide to start changing any, poke me
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> so I can try to guide you, try is the key word
[10:19] <owh> Cool. Just been called to dinner.
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> also, there are many bugs without packages
[10:19] <owh> Yeah, I'll start looking at those.
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll link you when you retun. have a good dinner
[10:19] <owh> I'll focus on the unconfirmed ones.
[10:19] <owh> Sure.
[10:19] <owh> Later.
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going
[10:56] <owh> So, where were we?
[10:57] <owh> Basically, most of the bugs now tagged thinkpad were made so by me. I initially searched for unconfirmed bugs, then for thinkpad, then opened the first 20 or so and tagged them.
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> okay good
[10:58] <owh> I looked down the list for all the tags and opened those tags that appeared similar, then opened each bug to confirm and then edited the tag to remove the similar tags, merging things like acpi and acpid.
[10:59] <owh> I added suspend etc. to those Thinkpad tags that were dealing with that.
[10:59] <owh> I merged browser, browsers, browsing.
[10:59] <owh> That kind of thing.
[11:00] <owh> I tried very hard not to change the meaning of a report/tag.
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> can i see the suspend tag?
[11:01] <owh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=suspend
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71459 in coreutils (main) "It fails during upgrade installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71459
[11:03] <Admiral_Chicago> owh: sec let me read
[11:03] <owh> Most of the bugs showing there are marked Unconfirmed, the idea being that people working on suspend issues get to see a wider range of issue, perhaps making it simpler to determine the actual bug.
[11:05] <grumpymole> owh: i have added the thinkpad tag to a few that i have been following about thinkpads
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75574 in coreutils (main) "cp crashes when copying large files to usb device" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75574
[11:06] <grumpymole> owh: it's a good idea, even though there are so many tags
[11:07] <owh> grumpymole: I toyed with the idea of adding the model number, but that would lead to chaos if others did the same for each brand, so I figured that the thinkpad was a separate enough group to identify with a web-site with detailed model information, in the form of the thinkwiki
[11:07] <owh> The other part of my thinking was that a thinkpad user might want to find out what kind of bugs are lodged against their device.
[11:08] <grumpymole> owh: it allows the mass of bug reports to be viewed in many different ways, thereby allowing easier detection of duplicates
[11:08] <grumpymole> owh: true
[11:08] <owh> Yes, that was my thinking.
[11:08] <grumpymole> classic example is the firefox flash crash bug - there must be dozens of duplicates
[11:09] <grumpymole> and that takes up someone's valuable time
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> owh: look at Bug # 41612, that bug was filed a long time ago
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach asked for more information
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> never got it
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Bug #41612 can be closed
[11:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 41612 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Gdm can't wake up after suspension" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/41612
[11:09] <owh> Admiral_Chicago: What makes you decide that it can be closed?
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> owh: it's really old, unresponside reporter
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> expecially after a request
[11:10] <owh> Admiral_Chicago: By no means is it the oldest I saw today, not even close to old.
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> request for more info* correct dholbach?
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> owh: sec
[11:11] <dholbach> which bug are you referring to?
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> bug #41612
[11:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 41612 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Gdm can't wake up after suspension" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/41612
[11:13] <dholbach> I'd request dmesg information and it might be a hardware problem too
[11:13] <dholbach> but best to ask kernel hackers what they'd rather like
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, well i assumed since it was really old -- around breezy time, it got taken care of
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc about times that is
[11:15] <owh> If I put on my bug fix hat, then the more information, the better. So if it were me I'd be reluctant to close bugs that aren't specifically fixed.
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75586 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (universe) "vga-out get different resolution than the LCD display of a laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75586
[11:16] <owh> That bug that just came past, that's an example of one of many similar bugs I've seen in the last few hours.
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> well i agree with you, maybe you would like to subscibe to the bug and ask for more info
[11:17] <owh> While I'm happy to do that, is this how it's done, in such an ad-hoc fashion?
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> owh: there is a wiki page...
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> look for "How to triage bugs" on the link
[11:18] <owh> Hmm, /me suspects that this is the incorrect link.
[11:18] <owh> That's the list, not a wikki :-)
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> ah it's late here... https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-qa/
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> ah no
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> There!
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> see
[11:20] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 13 2006, 04:20:08
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i have a paper to revise, poke me for help
[11:20] <owh> Ah
[11:20] <owh> Cool
[11:26] <omgponiezlol> owh: new nick for now, Admiral has to do work...
[11:27] <owh> Sure :-)
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75587 in proftpd (universe) "proftpd not instalable in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75587
[11:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69114 in beagle (main) "crash in Mono" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69114
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75588 in evolution (main) "Evolution crash upon closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75588
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75589 in php5 (main) "PDO support installation fails with insufficient memory error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75589
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75590 in apache2 (main) "Please sync apache2 (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75590
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75591 in krb5 (main) "memory leaks in init_sec_context.c" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75591
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75592 in xorg-server (main) "libGLcore crash (probably screensaver-induced)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75592
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75593 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes with quicktime pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75593
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75594 in vlc (universe) "Broken package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75594
[01:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75596 in compiz (universe) "Resizing windows is way too slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75596
[01:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75597 in compiz (universe) "workspace handling totally broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75597
[01:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75598 in gnome-panel (main) "Opening video player crashed gnome-panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75598
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: how did that apt-bug turn out?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: what one was it. i worked on a bunch last night to find issues. i think the one your talking about is fixed
[01:25] <gnomefreak> mvo: was the apt-index-watcher upgraded for edgy also?
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> it had all kind of dependecy issues or something. mplayer was going to be removed, some kde packages were not installed etc
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i forget it as well
[01:26] <mvo> gnomefreak: yes. sorry for the confusion. I discovered a different bug that sometimes could make apt crash. that is why I reassinged some bugs
[01:26] <mvo> gnomefreak: more after I come back from lunch
[01:26] <gnomefreak> mvo: ty than i will mark as dup
[01:26] <mvo> cool, thanks gnomefreak :)
[01:26] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: are you here?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> btw the gcc apt libstdc++6 are no longer held back. ill let the reporter know to try again
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: anyway when you get back if we didnt fix it last night please try the patch that michael left on your bug. i was gonna say use it as is for now until you run into it again to see if maybe it is still an issue.
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75600 in totem (main) "Black box after changing volume when playing video fullscreen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75600
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75599 in liferea (main) "Liferea doesn't use GNOME's proxy settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75599
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75601 in bzr-gtk (universe) "Installs nautilus-bzr to wrong directory" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75601
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75602 in dbus (main) "DBUS Should Support "Session Groups" (pam_group.so,/etc/security/groups.conf)" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75602
[02:18] <kiko> morning buggers
[02:19] <dholbach> hey kiko
[02:19] <kiko> how's it going?
[02:20] <dholbach> good good - just heading out for lunch
[02:20] <dholbach> how are you?
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75606 in pygtk (main) "[Feisty]  Module codegen.createdefs is missing in python-gtk2-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75606
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75608 in Ubuntu "combining diacritics should be CTL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75608
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75609 in tilda (universe) "crashes as soon as window is hidden" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75609
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75610 in totem (main) "Arrow keys are not working properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75610
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75611 in tilda (universe) "Bad default (None + F1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75611
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75612 in eclipse (universe) "Ctrl+Number causes Ctrl+Shift+Number keypress" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75612
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75613 in wide-dhcpv6 (universe) "Can't specify more than one interface" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75613
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75614 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed (Edgy Eft)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75614
[03:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69080 in totem (main) "when playing ac3 files, totem tells me audio device used by another program" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69080
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75616 in initramfs-tools (main) "support suspend2 kernels in initramfs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75616
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75618 in adns (main) "Complains about IPv6 entries in resolv.conf" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75618
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71485 in gcc-4.1 (main) "Documenting `-fstack-protector'" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71485
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71788 in gcc-4.1 (main) "gcc 4.1.2 on x86_64 Ubuntu Edgy generates incorrect prefetch instruction" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71788
[04:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71914 in python2.5 (main) "python2.5 ctypes.c_longlong has wrong size (32 bits instead of 64)" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71914
[04:05] <bddebian> Boo
[04:46] <sfllaw> bddebian: Who?
[04:47] <bddebian> Don't cry ;-P
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75622 in ubiquity (main) "Failed to install Grub (hd0)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75622
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68266 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "unkillable cpu-eating zombie children left by glibc build" [Medium,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68266
[04:57] <marnanel> I have no joke, I just like to say unkillable cpu-eating zombie children.
[05:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75626 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "usb2 stops working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75626
[05:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75627 in postfix (main) "postfix fails to upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75627
[05:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75628 in agave (universe) "About dialog "Close" does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75628
[05:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75629 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75629
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75630 in avahi (main) "avahi-discover doesn't close on CTRL+Q" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75630
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75631 in kdebase (main) "Klipper crashes on startup (FEISTY)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75631
[06:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75632 in Ubuntu "[SOLVED]  tivoli storage manager, acrobat on x86_64 need symbolic link for locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75632
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75633 in mono (main) "I was just reading fark.com and Mono crashed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75633
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75634 in djplay (universe) "New upstream release available" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75634
[06:18] <crimeboy> hello
[06:18] <crimeboy> anyone know about bug in the last  kernel image from dapper
[06:19] <crimeboy> here broken splash
[06:27] <jonh_wendell> crimeboy, i think it's better you make a search in malone
[06:28] <crimeboy> jonh_wendell: :~(
[06:28] <crimeboy> crimeboy: vdepizzol tah me passando a imagem "sadia"
[06:28] <crimeboy> eh a mesma release
[07:00] <fuoco> what can i do about some bugs that i have and don't seem to be getting attention?
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75635 in util-linux (main) "Vaio PCG-SRX51P/B has two graphics problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75635
[07:12] <jonh_wendell> fuoco, tell the bug number
[07:16] <fuoco> bug 69607
[07:16] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69607 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "DRI very slow on ATI Radeon 9600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69607
[07:16] <fuoco> that's one of them
[07:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75636 in linux-meta (main) "Kernel oops" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75636
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75638 in Ubuntu "/usr/share/man/man3/open_memstream.3.gz is a dangling symlink" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75638
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75639 in mesa (main) "wrong version number" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75639
[07:46] <Ubug2> New bug: #75640 in sound-juicer (main) "SJ froze the entire computer when ripping a burnt CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75640
[07:46] <Ubug2> New bug: #75641 in lkl (universe) "Time/Date stamp placed with"NULL"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75641
[07:46] <jonh_wendell> fuoco, i guess it's kind of duplicate of bug 47614 or bug 56692
[07:46] <Ubug2> Malone bug 47614 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "xserver-xorg does not automatically set supported options for ati (slow desktop/gui)" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/47614
[07:46] <Ubug2> Malone bug 56692 in xorg-server "ATI/Intel: poor 3D performance" [Unknown,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/56692
[07:50] <jonh_wendell> fuoco, what do you think?
[07:56] <Ubug2> New bug: #75642 in grisbi (universe) "Not installable on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75642
[08:01] <Ubug2> New bug: #75643 in bsdgames (universe) "cribbage: shows 19 points when the score is 0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75643
[08:01] <Ubug2> New bug: #75644 in Ubuntu "New programs not appears in KDE or Gnome menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75644
[08:01] <Ubug2> New bug: #75645 in Ubuntu "Edgy Eft Server / Alt. OS Install Fails with Adaptec / DPT i2o Controller but Desktop Version Does Not." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75645
[08:11] <Ubug2> New bug: #75646 in kdepim (main) "Manual filtering erroneously steps to next message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75646
[08:15] <Ubug2> New bug: #75647 in compiz (universe) "Window drag key not set properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75647
[08:20] <fuoco> jonh_wendell: nope, i'm pretty sure it's not a configuration issue at all. And the most important thing is that the fps with glxgears is around 25 - quite far from the 500 on that bug
[08:23] <Ubug2> New bug: #75623 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75623
[08:24] <fuoco> jonh_wendell: also note that in other distros it works much better.
[08:25] <Ubug2> New bug: #75648 in kdebase (main) "kpager is not saving settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75648
[08:25] <jonh_wendell> fuoco, ok, i guess the bug exists. i am not doubting you ;)
[08:25] <fuoco> i know :)
[08:26] <fuoco> i just wonder what causes it and why no dev is responding there trying to help us out.
[08:26] <fuoco> unfortunately i have other important bugs that are not being attended to
[08:30] <jonh_wendell> fuoco, there are a lot of bugs and few people triaging them
[08:31] <jonh_wendell> dholbach, in this case (xserver-ati related bug), what should we do? just assign it to ubuntu-swat?
[08:37] <seb128> sfllaw: do you monitor verification-needed bugs or should you ping you for SRU updates available?
[08:38] <sfllaw> seb128: I monitor them.
[08:38] <seb128> good
[08:38] <jonh_wendell> seb128, any idea about my question to dholbach ?
[08:39] <sfllaw> seb128: Have I dropped one of yours?
[08:39] <seb128> sfllaw: no, just upstream asked me about bug #73115 again, the blocker has been ubuntu-sru, not you
[08:39] <Ubug2> Malone bug 73115 in control-center "theme manager crash on theme installation" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73115
[08:39] <seb128> it took weeks for the -proposed update to be accepted
[08:40] <Ubug2> New bug: #75649 in initramfs-tools (main) "edgy: update-initramfs fails with 'mkinitramfs: invalid option' when given -v" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75649
[08:41] <seb128> jonh_wendell: assign it to ubuntu-x-swat if you want, not going to make a huge difference anyway, we have no xorg maintainer atm :/
[08:41] <jonh_wendell> :(
[08:41] <sfllaw> seb128: I'm concerned about bug 70986.
[08:41] <Ubug2> Malone bug 70986 in vino "CoRRE bug prevents connection from Nokia 770 to edgy" [Medium,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70986
[08:42] <sfllaw> seb128: Do we really need to fix this bug?  There aren't very many 770 users out there.
[08:42] <fuoco> no xorg maintainer - that sounds pretty bad :)
[08:43] <mc44> Isnt rodarvus maintaning xorg?
[08:44] <seb128> sfllaw: well, the fix is easy enough and in the pipe now
[08:44] <sfllaw> seb128: Yeah.  Testing requires resources and for me to dig out my 770.
[08:45] <seb128> sfllaw: well, your call, I did my part ;)
[08:45] <Ubug2> New bug: #75650 in Ubuntu "add jdk-6 to edgy-backports?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75650
[08:45] <Ubug2> New bug: #75651 in update-manager (main) "Finnish translation bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75651
[08:50] <Ubug2> New bug: #75652 in kdepim (main) "Kontact starts component not selected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75652
[09:05] <dholbach> sfllaw: when is the next hug day?
[09:05] <Ubug2> New bug: #75653 in firefox (main) "Firefox 2.0 crashes upon visiting a complex page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75653
[09:05] <Ubug2> New bug: #75654 in rhythmbox (main) "Removing track is not permanent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75654
[09:05] <Ubug2> New bug: #75655 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "System won't boot after update, can't find root partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75655
[09:06] <sfllaw> dholbach: I'm writing an announcement now.  And then e-mailing everyone who's signed up to Ubuntu-QA but has never found me online.
[09:07] <dholbach> yeeeeeeeeeeha
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> will that also go to the bug team or only QA?
[09:07] <dholbach> excellent
[09:07] <dholbach> sfllaw: when will the hug day be?
[09:07] <sfllaw> Probably next Wednesday.
[09:07] <sfllaw> A week's lead time is good.
[09:10] <Ubug2> New bug: #75656 in gst-plugins-base0.10 (main) "GStreamer apps play back my music with intermittent pops and clicks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75656
[09:10] <Ubug2> New bug: #75657 in udev (main) "kernel 2.6.19-7 doesn't boot on nforce4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75657
[09:11] <dholbach> yeah, much better
[09:45] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: kk, thanks... how do I apply the patch? download the source? or just apply the patch to my / ?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: dont know :(
[09:49] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: kk, thanks anywais :)
[09:56] <Ubug2> New bug: #75658 in nautilus (main) "Directory properties: Contents field doesn't indicate progress" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75658
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: only way i know is you can apply it at build time but you shouldnt have to rebuild it
[10:03] <gnomefreak> i woke up at 7am he was heading to lunch so i didnt get up with him for more than 3 seconds
[10:06] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: its there for the person thats gonna rebuild package there is no way to aooly patch any other way (just assked in -motu) ;)
[10:10] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: kk, thanks
[10:11] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: I'd take the sources and add the patch... but it would be more of a hassle for the maintainer than anything
[10:11] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: he will be building it
[10:12] <ryanakca> kk
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75659 in Ubuntu "fortune in foregein language" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75659
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75661 in firefox (main) "/var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75661
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75660 in kdeutils (main) "ARK: Adding files to a zip file -> Error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75660
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75662 in mysql-admin (universe) "MySQL Admin crashes at clicking at "Catalogues"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75662
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75663 in beep-media-player (universe) "bmp windows don't behave like a same window when they are united" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75663
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75665 in xorg (main) "Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse 3000" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75665
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75668 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 (restricted) "linux-restricted-module should provide source packages for individual components" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75668
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71864 in ubiquity (main) "Installer does not allow to select a Kurdish keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71864
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75669 in Ubuntu "nautilus crash upon create folder from file menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75669
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75670 in gnome-power-manager (main) "All "help" buttons opens the gpm help index" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75670
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75671 in mono (main) "Odd crash for unknown reason." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75671
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75672 in bittorrent (main) "doesn't work with python2.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75672
[11:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75673 in Ubuntu "32bit apps have no access to locales other than 'C' on 64bit system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75673
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75675 in emacs21 (main) "multi_key broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75675