| LaserJock | willvdl: yes, but we already have that | 12:17 |
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| cbx33 | listening..... | 12:17 |
| willvdl | :) | 12:17 |
| cbx33 | in bed..... | 12:17 |
| theCore | when is the next docteam meeting? | 12:18 |
| LaserJock | whenever we schedule one | 12:18 |
| theCore | ah, ok | 12:18 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, again an edubuntu marketing team jsut dilutes the current one | 12:18 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: there is no kubuntu-doc team on LP | 12:18 |
| cbx33 | hmmm..... | 12:19 |
| willvdl | agreed on that point: edubuntu-doc team is dilution | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | well, but it serves a purpose if you use it to house the marketing docs in bzr | 12:19 |
| cbx33 | agreed | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | I can see creating edubuntu-* if it is actually doing something | 12:19 |
| willvdl | well, no reason why that can't be done out of ubuntu-marketing either | 12:19 |
| cbx33 | also helps with organization | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | perhaps, you'd have to talk with them about it | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | anyway, if you look at Kubuntu | 12:20 |
| willvdl | exactly | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | who is quite a bit more different than Ubuntu then Edubuntu is | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | they have a rocking doc team | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | and I think a lot of it has to do with not trying to split everything up | 12:21 |
| willvdl | agreed. no splitting :) | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 12:22 |
| willvdl | instead of creating new sub-teams, rather create spec/features that certain folk can subscribe too | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | so all that really needs to be done is getting people excited about joining the doc team | 12:22 |
| willvdl | and the other way around | 12:23 |
| willvdl | getting doc team excited about helping edubuntu :] | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | well, we have been | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | consistently | 12:23 |
| willvdl | I know | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | laserjock, are we using svn/bzr? | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | and I've felt like Edubuntu has snubbed them time after time | 12:23 |
| willvdl | working on it. | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | I know it's not intentional, but it gets a little old waving our hands saying "We're here and we want to help!" and nobody shows up | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | Mattew East even wrote an Edubuntu css for the docs | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | I said I'm always willing to commit things | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | nixternal has been fixing xml and maintaining a branch of the handbook | 12:25 |
| willvdl | yeah, he's helped me quite a bit | 12:26 |
| LaserJock | so I'm not trying to be down on you at all | 12:26 |
| willvdl | what about more svn access? | 12:26 |
| LaserJock | I've just been a bit frustrated for the last 9 months because I want to see Edubuntu docs rock but I'm not really in a position to write them myself | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | could i get svn access? | 12:26 |
| LaserJock | sure | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | svn access is not an issue | 12:27 |
| willvdl | cool | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | all we ask is that the person be an edubuntu member and show that they can "play nice" with the XML | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | it was...but cool...that it isn't now | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | basically show you are a part of the team and send in some patches | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | ok.....how do iget myself on the lst | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | Mark helped us out there | 12:28 |
| cbx33 | i sent loads of patches in dapper | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | we did have quite a bit of a hard time getting new people added as elmo was very very busy | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | but that's "fixed" now | 12:28 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, we can continue the doc discussion in the meeting tomorrow. | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | yep, but honestly, we welcome people to come | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | but generally nobody shows up | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: unfortunately the Edubuntu meeting is 4:00am for me | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | I doubt I'll make it | 12:29 |
| nixternal | edubuntu meeting is at 6am here tomorrow, which is 4am for LaserJock ;( | 12:29 |
| willvdl | urk. it's 1:30 am now for me :) | 12:29 |
| nixternal | if i am up at 6am, i will kill myself | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | anyway | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | I would just say that the doc team is eager to see action on the Edubuntu front | 12:30 |
| willvdl | yes. I get the picture about the repo which is great. | 12:30 |
| LaserJock | and I personally will do whatever I can to help | 12:31 |
| cbx33 | get me svn ;) | 12:31 |
| LaserJock | ok | 12:31 |
| LaserJock | I'll talk to mdke about it tomorrow | 12:31 |
| cbx33 | cool | 12:31 |
| LaserJock | I know you can do valid docbook | 12:31 |
| willvdl | RichEd wants some targeted marketing stuff (as mentioned above) which we'll all plan around still | 12:31 |
| LaserJock | yeah, what I can see is some differentiation there | 12:32 |
| willvdl | and we'll rally contributions for the handbook which will be the mothership of info | 12:32 |
| cbx33 | it's getting much more urgent now | 12:32 |
| theCore | LaserJock: can I do valid docbook? | 12:32 |
| theCore | :P | 12:32 |
| LaserJock | theCore: most of the time ;-) | 12:32 |
| theCore | haha | 12:32 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: I would just say if you can to promote joining the doc team as well as a particular doc | 12:33 |
| nixternal | i can't, so don't feel bad | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | sometimes people get a little overwhelmed | 12:33 |
| cbx33 | nn will | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: you just commit to the wrong branch ;p | 12:33 |
| nixternal | lol | 12:33 |
| willvdl | ciao cbx33 | 12:33 |
| nixternal | shush | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | cya cbx33 | 12:33 |
| cbx33 | i'm still here | 12:33 |
| nixternal | lol | 12:34 |
| cbx33 | thought will was off | 12:34 |
| willvdl | oh | 12:34 |
| willvdl | almost | 12:34 |
| LaserJock | anyway, I'm excited for you to take this on willvdl | 12:34 |
| willvdl | I'm paid too :) | 12:34 |
| cbx33 | lucky | 12:35 |
| LaserJock | I just wanted to "vent" some of my frustrations with Edubuntu docs over the last 9months | 12:35 |
| willvdl | no worries. I need to know realities | 12:35 |
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| cbx33 | right i really am out now..... | 12:36 |
| cbx33 | shattered | 12:36 |
| willvdl | likewise | 12:36 |
| LaserJock | good night guys | 12:36 |
| willvdl | cbx33, I'll try to follow up in the morning or else I'll have to pick things up again tomorrow night | 12:36 |
| LaserJock | have a good meeting tomorrow | 12:36 |
| cbx33 | ok | 12:37 |
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| cbx33 | nn | 12:37 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, thanks for your help | 12:37 |
| PriceChild | Hey there all.. | 12:37 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: np | 12:37 |
| LaserJock | hi PriceChild | 12:37 |
| PriceChild | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy needs its repositories and gpg key loaction changing... but it says not to edit it | 12:37 |
| PriceChild | What should I do? :) | 12:37 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, wiki needs lots of maintenance too. working on that slowly | 12:38 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 12:38 |
| LaserJock | I'm trying to work on the MOTU wiki | 12:38 |
| LaserJock | I feel the pain | 12:38 |
| nixternal | i need to go through and rip out pieces of the Ubuntu Documentation that will pertain directly to the Edubuntu Standalone section for sure | 12:39 |
| PriceChild | Anyone got any ideas for me before I just go ahead and edit the things? | 12:39 |
| LaserJock | PriceChild: well, I'm not sure, it's also got some pretty plain issues | 12:39 |
| willvdl | I'm trying to remove deprecated and confusing stuff | 12:39 |
| nixternal | the Handbook needs a lot of writing to still be done, more goods and less smiley faces in the content. I went through and easily pulled out 100+ :) in between <para>...</para> | 12:39 |
| willvdl | especially old planning and proposal pages | 12:39 |
| LaserJock | PriceChild: if you are sure go ahead and edit it and then email the ubuntu-doc list | 12:39 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: ugggg | 12:40 |
| nixternal | hehe ya | 12:40 |
| willvdl | do you know if https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation has current stff on it? | 12:40 |
| PriceChild | LaserJock: Because I _know_ that the amd64 repo is incorrect... I run one of the beryl mirrors and that's wrong. Also that key is _definately_ out of date. | 12:40 |
| nixternal | i didn't catch them until I built it, because it turned blue making me think it was &fjfldka; | 12:40 |
| willvdl | nixternal, like switching to dvorak key layout by mistake | 12:41 |
| nixternal | willvdl: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuHandbook <- might want that listed there as well | 12:41 |
| willvdl | hmmm, maybe I should rather use the CategoryCleanup idea rather. What's the status on that? | 12:42 |
| nixternal | i had created https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuHandbook/Management to manage the sections, in order to help those out that were running the project, but they like disappeared | 12:42 |
| willvdl | the people or the section? | 12:43 |
| nixternal | truthfully, i would rm -rf /*Handbook and start fresh, there is a lot of old info and unmaintained info...almost makes since to start fresh and take control from the beginning | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 12:43 |
| PriceChild | LaserJock: Someone's messed that guide up... the Nvidia section's split in two for some reason and half will cause adverse affects instead of helping... | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | PriceChild: yep, I'd email the list | 12:44 |
| willvdl | nixternal, was hoping you'd say that | 12:44 |
| nixternal | good ol https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOfCrap | 12:44 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: so is section 1 and 2 pretty much done? | 12:44 |
| willvdl | nearly had a heart-attack - thought that was a valid link :) | 12:44 |
| PriceChild | hmm... do I have to sign up for the doc mailing list to send a message...? | 12:45 |
| nixternal | lol | 12:45 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: section 1 and 2 of what? the handbook? | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 12:45 |
| willvdl | PriceChild, to avoid the moderation queue, yip | 12:45 |
| nixternal | oh no, they are half done at least, the ltsp portion definitely has the most content right now | 12:45 |
| nixternal | i need to take a day and just write, as it seems we aren't ready for the topic based stuff just yet | 12:45 |
| nixternal | need to start writing a new Kubuntu Desktop Guide as well. the current is stale and ugly to me | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 12:46 |
| nixternal | especially after researching the other distros documentation, it needs a lot of love | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | it does look like basically ESA + LTSP docs | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: which distros? | 12:47 |
| LaserJock | opensuse? | 12:47 |
| PriceChild | willvdl: what's the email? I'd rather send it into the queue as I can't stand the mail | 12:47 |
| LaserJock | PriceChild: lists.ubuntu.com | 12:48 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: btw, Kubuntu docs are under https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc too | 12:48 |
| willvdl | hmmm | 12:48 |
| willvdl | ok, outa here. LaserJock, I'll look into intelligent use of LP for all of this, bounce it off at the meeting and take it from there | 12:49 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: OpenSUSE, FC, Gentoo, Slackware, and more | 12:49 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: ok, good luck. I look forward to reading the meeting logs | 12:49 |
| willvdl | and use the wiki for LP spec tracing which is what it is _meant_ for | 12:49 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: and who's docs did you like the best? :-) | 12:49 |
| nixternal | OpenSUSE w/o a doubt | 12:49 |
| LaserJock | willvdl: mhm | 12:49 |
| willvdl | steal them :) | 12:50 |
| willvdl | steal them all | 12:50 |
| nixternal | Gentoo has some really nice docs as well | 12:50 |
| nixternal | their OS is garbage, but their docs are great | 12:50 |
| willvdl | right. really leaving this time | 12:50 |
| willvdl | g'night | 12:50 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: heh, I thought the OS was good but the docs not so much | 12:52 |
| nixternal | you thought gentoo was good? | 12:54 |
| nixternal | the gentoo docs and wiki are fairly elaborate..very well maintained | 12:54 |
| LaserJock | I ran Gentoo for over 2 years | 12:55 |
| LaserJock | dang, I'm getting the OpenSuse DVD at 4M/s | 12:55 |
| nixternal | i think my longest running use of a Linux OS was probably Slackware, with SuSE and Debian a close 2nd | 12:55 |
| LaserJock | I've never installed Slackware once | 12:56 |
| LaserJock | not sure why, just never did | 12:56 |
| nixternal | Slackware is fun, as you do all of the work, definitely not a newb friendly system | 12:56 |
| LaserJock | my order by longest using is Gentoo, Ubuntu, SuSE | 12:57 |
| nixternal | heh, you just started with SuSE didn't you? | 12:57 |
| LaserJock | I've never run Debian on a desktop machine | 12:57 |
| LaserJock | nah, I ran SuSE between Gentoo and Ubuntu | 12:57 |
| nixternal | desktop it was always Slackware and SuSE pretty much, I ran Debian for servers, and then for a few years ran Debian as a KDE dev desktop | 12:58 |
| LaserJock | right now Novell is the biggest reason I don't do much with suse | 12:59 |
| LaserJock | otherwise it seems like a really good distro | 12:59 |
| LaserJock | well, if I can get around that whole .rpm business ;-) | 12:59 |
| nixternal | ya | 01:04 |
| nixternal | im not used to rpms anymore either | 01:04 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm to the point where not being able to build a source package is sort of scary | 01:05 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: I got the 3.6GB OpenSuse DVD .iso in 16 min. ;-) | 01:13 |
| nixternal | nice | 01:13 |
| LaserJock | I love uni connections | 01:14 |
| nixternal | i like the Mepis Doc Project wiki layout for a front page that they have. | 01:21 |
| Burgwork | lets steal it | 01:21 |
| Burgwork | :) | 01:22 |
| nixternal | muhehe | 01:22 |
| nixternal | http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Main_Page | 01:22 |
| Burgwork | I like the boxes, but the content inside the boxes doesn't grab me | 01:23 |
| nixternal | topically broken down, however their documentation isn't great | 01:24 |
| nixternal | MEPIS supports a lot of hardware out-of-the-box. There is no need to download or install extra drivers. Most hardware will just work.... | 01:25 |
| nixternal | Unfortunately even though most hardware will work, not all hardware will work | 01:25 |
| nixternal | if i was a dog, i would be chasing my tail right now | 01:25 |
| nixternal | Burgwork: i do see what you mean, Devices and General Knowledge Db both contain "hardware"...it is a little silly, but i like the fact everything is linked, big letters, and no scrolling to findi t (fluidity) | 01:29 |
| Burgwork | yep | 01:29 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | nixternal: Bug #75549 | 02:44 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 75549 in apt "Cannot upgrade Dapper->Edgy without update-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/75549 | 02:44 |
| Admiral_Chicago | what is your take on this, I'm not sure what to do with it | 02:45 |
| LaserJock | well, it seems logical that would should say something about server installs | 02:50 |
| nixternal | definitely a very valid point | 02:51 |
| Admiral_Chicago | LaserJock: i thought so, will the doc be updated soon? i'll bookmark the bug | 02:51 |
| nixternal | i do it the "unreliable" way for every machine...editing source.list and doing the dist-upgrade | 02:51 |
| nixternal | hasn't broke yet for me | 02:51 |
| Admiral_Chicago | nixternal: as do I | 02:51 |
| nixternal | that is a wiki page, he can edit it or you can edit, or anyone can edit it to do the apt-get way for servers | 02:52 |
| LaserJock | well, we are encouraging people to use update-manager | 02:54 |
| Admiral_Chicago | not sure how you do it really. i don't think he does either | 02:54 |
| LaserJock | but the language should say something about server installs | 02:54 |
| Admiral_Chicago | so editing the sources would be the way to go for servers? | 02:55 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure what Canonical/devs want to do | 02:57 |
| nixternal | sudo mv sources.list sources && sed -e 's/edgy/feisty/' sources | sudo tee -a sources.list && sudo rm sources | 02:58 |
| nixternal | that will provide him the sources.list to update, and then he can sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from there | 02:58 |
| nixternal | im sure there is a shorter way of doing the first line, i just can't remember, plus im a lil busy ;p | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | well, but the point isn't how so much | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | but what are we as a project supporting | 03:00 |
| Admiral_Chicago | okay i'll just edit the page | 03:00 |
| nixternal | http://www.elfyourself.com/?userid=5692c75673810380ba8999dG06121216 | 03:01 |
| nixternal | gahahahahahaha | 03:01 |
| nixternal | my x-wife just sent that to me | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | Admiral_Chicago: maybe you should email the list | 03:04 |
| Admiral_Chicago | LaserJock: the doc list or the dev list? | 03:04 |
| LaserJock | doc first | 03:05 |
| Admiral_Chicago | okay will do. | 03:05 |
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| tonyyarusso | Oh dear. | 03:31 |
| tonyyarusso | (See Mailing List) | 03:31 |
| Admiral_Chicago | tonyyarusso: yea it's a good question, (i sent it) | 03:31 |
| tonyyarusso | So Matthew Flaschen asked something, and Matthew Nuzum forwarded it to the doc team, where Matthew East will answer. :P | 03:32 |
| tonyyarusso | Admiral_Chicago: I'm just amused by the names ;) | 03:32 |
| tonyyarusso | But yes, the overall question does need to be addressed too | 03:33 |
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| Burgundavia | mdke_: ping | 07:31 |
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| mdke_ | Burgundavia: pong | 08:53 |
| rob | hi mdke_ | 08:53 |
| mdke_ | hi rob | 08:54 |
| Burgundavia | mdke_: got a UWN 24 article in the queu for the firdge | 08:55 |
| mdke_ | ah | 08:56 |
| mdke_ | ok | 08:56 |
| mdke_ | Burgundavia: approved | 08:58 |
| Burgundavia | sweet | 08:58 |
| mdke_ | good job | 08:59 |
| somerville32 | mdke_: ping | 09:05 |
| mdke | somerville32: just ask | 09:05 |
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| somerville32 | mdke: Can you add two reoccurring monthly event on the fridge calendar, Wednesday @ 2200 UTC and Saturday @ 1500 UTC titled "Xubuntu Developer Team Meeting" with a link to the agenda at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 09:09 |
| somerville32 | *events | 09:09 |
| somerville32 | Thanks. | 09:10 |
| mdke | somerville32: can you email them to fridge-devel@lists.ubuntu.com please? | 09:10 |
| mdke | if not, I can email them | 09:10 |
| somerville32 | Done. | 09:11 |
| somerville32 | :] | 09:11 |
| mdke | thanks | 09:11 |
| willvdl | morning all | 09:12 |
| mdke | morning willvdl | 09:14 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #75542 in ubuntu-doc "Diagrams missing in PostfixBasicSetupHowto" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/75542 | 09:15 |
| willvdl | mdke, can we add release series to https://launchpad.net/products/distro-about-page etc? | 09:18 |
| mdke | willvdl: well, it's all a bit confused: we have a general ubuntu-doc product that we use for most launchpad activity (bug tracking), and of course there is distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs. That product you mention isn't really used. | 09:20 |
| mdke | mpt registered it, maybe he can tell you more about *why* he did so | 09:21 |
| willvdl | ok, I'll ask him | 09:21 |
| willvdl | I'm trying to get edubuntu "back in the fol" so am looking at launchpad, wiki.e.o, wiki.u.c and help.u.c | 09:22 |
| willvdl | s/fol/fold/ | 09:22 |
| mdke | sure | 09:22 |
| mdke | I think probably the best thing to do is to use the LP ubuntu-doc product. we can discuss it on the mailing list and see what people think | 09:24 |
| willvdl | yeah, we cahtted about that in here last night | 09:24 |
| willvdl | want to bring edubuntu-docs into ubuntu-doc(just like kubuntu-doc) so as not to dilute the doc-team | 09:24 |
| willvdl | but at the same time, some of our stuff is "marketing" related so we want to put it in svn but not package for release in ubuntu-doc necessarily | 09:25 |
| mdke | certainly | 09:26 |
| mdke | like the school-advocacy document | 09:26 |
| willvdl | although what I'm not sure about is if "kubuntu-doc" or "edubuntu-doc" will end up being seperate products | 09:26 |
| mdke | yeah, I see. I can see a much more powerful argument for that than to have a separate product for each document | 09:27 |
| willvdl | it just brings up the question of duplication since edubuntu is built on ubuntu | 09:28 |
| mdke | but again, if they are in the same repository, something tells me it should be the same product | 09:28 |
| willvdl | well, there's stuff in the repo that is not part of the product so... | 09:28 |
| mdke | well, the idea is that you register the repository with the product | 09:29 |
| willvdl | as a branch? or as a subdirectory in trunk? | 09:29 |
| mdke | https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/trunk | 09:30 |
| mdke | or as a branch, whatever is applicable | 09:30 |
| mdke | confusingly, that product has "main" and "trunk", which appear to be the same | 09:30 |
| willvdl | don't like the branch idea. not sure it's technically correct | 09:30 |
| mdke | you'll see we don't really think about this much | 09:31 |
| willvdl | :) | 09:31 |
| willvdl | should we add edgy/dapper releases to above product? | 09:31 |
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| mdke | well, dapper is there. We should add Edgy | 09:31 |
| mdke | (I think) | 09:31 |
| willvdl | I can do if ok with you. want to add more edubuntu stuff here and there anyway... | 09:32 |
| mdke | I'm not sure you have the right permissions | 09:33 |
| willvdl | probably not | 09:33 |
| mdke | alright, done | 09:35 |
| willvdl | thanks | 09:35 |
| mdke | I've added the relevant branch in our repository as the code, you don't think that's correct? | 09:36 |
| willvdl | not with you? | 09:36 |
| mdke | 08:38:45 < willvdl> don't like the branch idea. not sure it's technically correct | 09:36 |
| mdke | https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/edgy | 09:37 |
| willvdl | as I understand, a branch is a parallel effort | 09:37 |
| willvdl | whereas a tag is a snapshot | 09:37 |
| mdke | right, but we sometimes update our branches after branching or even after release | 09:37 |
| mdke | like by fixing critical bugs, or importing new translations | 09:37 |
| willvdl | good point | 09:37 |
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| willvdl | no you're right. branch is right | 09:38 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | what licence is the doco released under? i seem to remember it was a CC+GFDL licence, but i just want to check | 11:19 |
| rob | just CC now iirc | 11:20 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | share alike? | 11:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | wonder if it says on the wiki...hm. | 11:21 |
| rob | by SA | 11:21 |
| rob | yep | 11:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks. | 11:22 |
| rob | This document is made available under a dual license strategy that includes the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and the Creative Commons ShareAlike 2.0 License (CC-BY-SA). | 11:22 |
| rob | that's for edgy, for feisty its just the CC license iirc | 11:22 |
| Admiral_Chicago | blah i don't like CC, not to start a license flame wor | 11:22 |
| rob | Admiral_Chicago: there was quite a bit of debate about it on the mailing list | 11:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Admiral_Chicago, we dont have anything better. :\ | 11:23 |
| Admiral_Chicago | Kamping_Kaiser: i'd just go for GNU, I think CC is too much "Protect some of the author's rights" | 11:23 |
| rob | by having only one licence we can get material from other compatible license works and use them, with the dual license set up we couldn't from either | 11:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Admiral_Chicago, there isnt a good gnu doco/arwork licence though. | 11:24 |
| rob | yep, to a point | 11:24 |
| Admiral_Chicago | that is true, for both those points | 11:24 |
| rob | wikipedia is gfdl isn't it? | 11:24 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | iirc yes | 11:25 |
| rob | hmm, should be a branch for dapper I think in svn | 11:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | only 5 files in my svn checkout with 'dapper' in the name, all images :/ | 11:26 |
| rob | hmm, talk to mdke later about it then | 11:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. i'll try and catch him | 11:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks :) | 11:27 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | mdke, you about yet? | 03:06 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | gnight all | 03:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'll try and catch you another time mdk | 03:21 |
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| nixternal | hola LaserJock | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | hi nixternal | 07:58 |
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| LaserJock | oh geeze, this wiki license thing is sure a pain | 08:28 |
| Burgwork | I am ignoring it | 08:31 |
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| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser: what's up? | 10:01 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser: ah, I see the scrollback. It's at https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/branches/dapper | 10:07 |
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