[12:26] <somerville32> Burgwork, ping
[12:26] <Burgwork> somerville32: pong
[12:27] <somerville32> Did UWN 24 get mailed?
[12:27] <Burgwork> nope, because work has been so nuts today
[12:27] <somerville32> Are we going to send out UWN24 and 25 tonight?
[12:28] <Burgwork> 24
[12:28] <somerville32> 25 is almost ready
[12:28] <somerville32> And is suppose to be shipped today
[12:28] <somerville32> But I don't see a problem is delaying it
[12:29] <somerville32> *in
[12:29] <Burgwork> yep
[12:29] <Burgwork> I don't mind shipping 24 tongith and 25 on friday and then 26 a week today
[12:29] <somerville32> k, perfect.
[12:30] <somerville32> Well, I've already started on 26.
[12:30] <somerville32> I can't do too much more on 25
[12:30] <Burgwork> ok, sorry for the delay
[12:30] <Burgwork> I should probably hand off more of the UWN
[12:31] <somerville32> I dunno what there is to hand off
[12:31] <Burgwork> need to figure out a better method for the feisty thing
[12:38] <somerville32> Mmm
[12:44] <somerville32> jenda: Still up?
[12:44] <jenda> yeap
[12:45] <somerville32> Jenda: Will you make me some Ubuntu business cards? <g>
[12:45] <jenda> hmm
[12:45] <jenda> somerville32: you know what...
[12:45] <jenda> that's not a bad idea...
[12:45] <somerville32> :D
[12:45] <jenda> somerville32: find me 3 other people that would be interested, that'll make 5 of us.
[12:46] <somerville32> Well, can you find out a price?
[12:46] <somerville32> :] 
[12:46] <jenda> with 200 cards apiece, we could get some serious discounting ;)
[12:46] <somerville32> Woot! :D
[12:46] <jenda> I'll try.
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[12:46] <jenda> have the cards pre-printed on pre-lined A4 sheets...
[12:48] <jenda> Is there a fixed size for cards, or can I change it a bit? :)
[12:48] <somerville32> Unknown.
[12:48] <somerville32> There is artwork already for it, you know
[12:49] <jenda> yes
[12:49] <jenda> but artwork size can be altered.
[12:49] <jenda> This could get _really_ cheap.
[12:49] <jenda> with decent quality ;)
[12:49] <somerville32> Woot :] 
[12:50] <jenda> got a piece of paper and a ruler? :)
[12:50] <somerville32> Yup.
[12:51] <jenda> got centimiters on that ruler? :)
[12:54] <jenda> Try drawing a rectangle 7.4  4.3
[12:54] <jenda> is that good enough for a card?
[12:58] <jenda> Muhehe
[12:59] <jenda> I can fit 15 cards with dimensions 4.933  8 cm on an A4 sheet of paper.
[12:59] <jenda> somerville32? :)
[12:59] <jenda> My idea is, have 300 sheets of harder paper with those cards pre-carved out of it made by the printer.
[01:00] <jenda> and then either ship them blank to the person and email an .ods spreadsheet measured exactly for the printing (risky) or simply print out one's data on them.
[01:01] <jenda> somerville32: how much would you be willing to pay for 45 cards?
[01:07] <somerville32> Hmm...
[01:09] <somerville32> 6.75 USD?
[01:11] <jenda> noted
[01:11] <jenda> good.
[01:11] <jenda> that's plenty possible ;)
[01:12] <somerville32> $5 would be a nice round fee <g>
[01:12] <jenda> hehe :)
[01:13] <jenda> I need some sort of margin, too.
[01:13] <somerville32> I thought you were doing this out of the kindness of your Ubuntu heart! : O
[01:14] <somerville32> Maybe $0.12 a card then plus $0.10 processing fee
[01:14] <somerville32> So that would be $5.50
[01:14] <somerville32> And make sure it is the thick paper too
[01:14] <somerville32> The good stuff
[01:15] <jenda> I'll have to get a quote on it first ;)
[01:15] <somerville32> $0.10 processing fee for every 45 cards at $0.12 per card.
[01:16] <jenda> If I ended up 'processing' with scissors, the quality would go down rapidly, too.
[01:16] <somerville32> hehe
[01:16] <jenda> So they need to be willing to pre-chop it up.
[06:54] <cellofellow> somerville32: ping
[06:54] <somerville32> pong
[06:55] <cellofellow> http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/ubuntu/ubuntu-leaflet-p1_cellofellow-xubuntu.svg
[06:57] <somerville32> lol
[06:57] <cellofellow> it's a noisy little machine
[06:57] <cellofellow> maybe my dns got messed up again.
[06:58] <cellofellow> yup. one minute...
[06:59] <cellofellow> s wrong with ddclient
[06:59] <cellofellow> ok, try that
[07:00] <cellofellow> http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/ubuntu/ubuntu-leaflet-p1_cellofellow-xubuntu.svg
[07:00] <somerville32> Transx
[07:00] <somerville32> Hmmm
[07:00] <somerville32> Now it just has Kubuntu and Canonical on it :P
[07:01] <cellofellow> no Xubuntu?
[07:01] <somerville32> Nope.
[07:02] <cellofellow> in firefox? firefox is crap for SVG that's all I see too. try inkscape or opera or konq
[07:03] <cellofellow> do you have one of those somerville32?
[07:04] <somerville32> Nope.
[07:04] <cellofellow> :(
[07:04] <cellofellow> Install Inkscape it's no biggie. OOo Draw might work too.
[07:05] <somerville32> k
[07:05] <somerville32> One sec
[07:06] <cellofellow> It goes nicely with abiword and gnumeric
[07:06] <Burgundavia> cellofellow: because it isn't something that a lot of users need to use
[07:07] <cellofellow> ok. :)
[07:09] <cellofellow> somerville32: how's it coming?
[07:11] <Burgundavia> somerville32: lets get this 24 out
[07:12] <somerville32> Burgundavia, Alrighty! :] 
[07:12] <somerville32> cellofellow, Visiting now
[07:12] <somerville32> OH wait...
[07:12] <somerville32> Opera just died on me
[07:12] <somerville32> :(
[07:15] <cellofellow> just try this page http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/ubuntu/ links to both svg pages.
[07:17] <somerville32> :] 
[07:17] <Burgundavia> somerville32: have we completely spell checked 24?
[07:17] <cellofellow> 24?
[07:18] <somerville32> Burgundavia, I haven't but I believe that Elky did
[07:18] <Burgundavia> ok
[07:19] <somerville32> gimp can't open svgs, gah :(
[07:19] <cellofellow> gimp is raster (bitmap) images, not vectors.
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> You can add svg capability to gimp
[07:20] <cellofellow> gimp-svg I think
[07:20] <cellofellow> !gimp-svg
[07:20] <ubotu> gimp-svg: SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) plugin for The GIMP. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 62 kB, installed size 128 kB
[07:20] <cellofellow> better just to use Inkscape somerville32 
[07:20] <cellofellow> how hard is it to get on the same page with a document?
[07:22] <somerville32> cellofellow, I have a slow slow old computer
[07:22] <somerville32> To install software, I have to stop everything I'm doing an wait because it gets so slow
[07:22] <cellofellow> everyone else is welcome to look too if they want. http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/ubuntu
[07:22] <cellofellow> apt takes that much resources?
[07:23] <somerville32> I have a 333mhz w/ 128mb of ram
[07:23] <somerville32> I currently have 2mb of ram left and I only have xchat, gaim, firefox, and terminal open
[07:23] <somerville32> plus beep-media-player
[07:23] <cellofellow> let me try to pdf-ize this doc.
[07:23] <somerville32> That would be perfect.
[07:23] <somerville32> :] 
[07:23] <Burgundavia> 24 is out!
[07:23] <somerville32> Yeah!! :)
[07:24] <Burgundavia> finally
[07:24] <somerville32> Onto 25? <g>
[07:24] <cellofellow> what's 24? elnighten the new guy.
[07:24] <cellofellow> enlighten
[07:24] <Burgundavia> ubuntu weekly news, #24
[07:24] <cellofellow> url?
[07:25] <Burgundavia> somerville32: one thing, remember to fix the redirect at /current
[07:25] <somerville32> Ah. k
[07:25] <somerville32> :] 
[07:25] <somerville32> Want me to do that now or did you already get it?
[07:26] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: ping
[07:26] <Burgundavia> already got it
[07:26] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue24 <--- cellofellow
[07:26] <cellofellow> how do I get openoffice to have SVG support? or Inkscape PDF support?
[07:27] <Burgundavia> inkscape should just do pdf
[07:27] <cellofellow> ok
[07:28] <cellofellow> why doesn't OpenOffice do SVG? it's a standard XML format like ODD.
[07:28] <cellofellow> OpenDocument Drawing
[07:30] <cellofellow> I can't find a PDF export in Inkscape. PNG I can do though. What's a good dpi?
[07:34] <cellofellow> somerville32: http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/ubuntu/ubuntu-leaflet-p1_cellofellow-xubuntu.png
[07:36] <somerville32> Nice!
[07:36] <cellofellow> what's the rest of the marketing team here think?
[07:38] <somerville32> Marketing team... think? 
[07:38] <Burgundavia> I try not to
[07:38] <Burgundavia> hurts me brain, plus the cold slows it down
[07:39] <Burgundavia> I have always found that brochure to be too bright and too wordy, but it looks good
[07:39] <cellofellow> I was just trying my hand at this stuff. Good first try then?
[07:42] <Burgundavia> absolutely
[07:42] <cellofellow> thanks :D
[07:43] <cellofellow> If I'm going to be on the marketing team, should I join the Launchpad team?
[07:45] <Burgundavia> si tu veux
[07:45] <cellofellow> ok, just did.
[07:57] <elkbuntu> ugh. attack of the coreys
[07:58] <elkbuntu> cellofellow, inkscape sucks at doing odd too, so it's only fair ;)
[08:00] <cellofellow> :) good point. I just thought I just might find svg in OpenOffice scrolling through all of those supported file formats. sgv came up a bit, but not svg.
[08:00] <elkbuntu> cellofellow, what about ai or eps?
[08:01] <cellofellow> I don't think so.
[08:01] <elkbuntu> postscript?
[08:02] <cellofellow> I didn't look for that.
[08:02] <cellofellow> It might be there.
[08:02] <elkbuntu> it should be fine so long as you dont have transparency
[08:02] <Burgundavia__> bleeding NM
[08:03] <cellofellow> inkscape can export to postscript with the print function. just put > /path/to/file.ps in the print dialog.
[08:03] <elkbuntu> heheh
[08:03] <elkbuntu> cellofellow, i know it can, but it fails with alpha
[08:03] <cellofellow> I see.
[08:04] <cellofellow> turning ps to pdf is easy right?
[08:07] <Burgundavia> cellofellow: inkscape will do pdf export
[08:07] <cellofellow> how? I just can't get it to work right now.
[08:09] <Burgundavia> which version do you have?
[08:09] <cellofellow> Inkscape 0.44 (Oct  9 2006)
[08:11] <Burgundavia> jenda: ping
[08:11] <Burgundavia> hmm, should just work
[08:11] <Burgundavia> file a bug on it
[08:12] <cellofellow> where is the button to do it?
[08:12] <Burgundavia> file a bug?
[08:12] <cellofellow> that's my real problem, user-dunceness
[08:12] <Burgundavia> ah
[08:12] <Burgundavia> file it in Lp
[08:13] <cellofellow> not filing bugs, printing pdf's. If it can, how do I do it?
[08:13] <Burgundavia> ah
[08:14] <Burgundavia> cellofellow: save as PDF
[08:15] <cellofellow> ok
[08:18] <elkbuntu> inkscape exported pdf for me last night quite happily
[08:18] <cellofellow> :] 
[08:21] <cellofellow> I just tried that and it looked nasty. All the text got rendered as bitmap instead of fonts.
[08:21] <cellofellow> never mind found that option
[08:22] <cellofellow> but now all the text is gone. :( this isn't working out too well
[08:23] <Burgundavia> pdf export is not optimal
[08:24] <cellofellow> Is there a way to just print to pdf?
[08:24] <cellofellow> set up a PDF printer? 
[09:27] <rhkfin> Hi people, you're doing great job! To who can I submit some LoCo news to possibly be released in the next UWN?
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> rhkfin: There's an "Ideas" page on the wiki, drop it on there.
[09:28] <rhkfin> ok, will do. Thank's!
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> rhkfin: Also, you could check the list of editors and "beats", and try to ping whoever's doing community news (Cody?)
[09:30] <jenda> Burgundavia: pong
[09:30] <jenda> Burgwork: pong
[09:30] <Burgundavia> jenda: hey
[09:31] <somerville32> jenda: I thought you ere going to bed.
[09:32] <jenda> somerville32: I got up already.
[09:32] <somerville32> jenda: Maybe it's time for me to go to bed then?
[09:33] <jenda> somerville32: probably ;)
[09:33] <rhkfin> tonyyarusso: here?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Ideas 
[09:33] <jenda> somerville32: way past, in fact.
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> rhkfin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Ideas - there
[09:34] <rhkfin> ok
[09:34] <Burgundavia> rhkfin: elkbuntu does loco team news
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Burgundavia: ping
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> or actually who worked on on the UWN
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> Admiral_Chicago: Is there an error?
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> tonyyarusso: no, i would just like to make a revision to the Kurdish / Ubuntu section
[11:02] <Admiral_Chicago> err an update really
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> ah
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> Well, if it's an update maybe it should go in the next one, doncha think?
[11:03] <Admiral_Chicago> It seems like the article should read something like "the local team, (ubuntu etc) was not implicated in any way and was never in any harm's way"
[11:03] <Admiral_Chicago> whatever the case may be
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> ah
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> Well, try pinging him when it's not 2 AM there I guess
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> Although you and I are both up later than that ;)
[11:05] <Admiral_Chicago> it left me in suspense, i know the story but not everyone knows the outcome
[11:05] <Admiral_Chicago> tonyyarusso: true
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> tonyyarusso: congrats on the membership btw
[11:10] <poningru> ah awesome
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> gotta run and do work
[11:32] <pschulz01> Wah?
[11:32] <pschulz01> ahh.. mixing the metaphores.
[11:33] <omgponiezlol> ?
[11:34] <pschulz01> I figure out what your nic was..
[11:34] <pschulz01> :-)
[11:34] <omgponiezlol> ha, i enjoy it
[03:52] <jenda> MenZa!
[04:22] <newz2000> Hey, just wanted to say, great job on the UWN. The last couple have been packed with good info and really helps me get a feel for what else is going on in the community. Thanks.
[04:23] <jenda> hehe :)
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> awesome
[04:23] <jenda> Burgundavia^
[04:38] <pitti> hi
[04:38] <pitti> is any Ubuntu Weekly News editor here? It seems that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Ideas is obsolete; where to send suggestions to?
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> pitti: That is the proper page, it merely hasn't been made use of recently.  However, you are the second person today with that question.  Please add yours there, and I will try to clean up the page so that it is more obvious that it has a purpose.  :)
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> Looks like we're starting to reach that critical mass of readership where we start getting input, which is awesome!
[04:43] <pitti> tonyyarusso: ah, great, thank you
[04:43] <pitti> tonyyarusso: in particular I wanted to add a pointer to 'new feature foo, please test' announcements
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> pitti: Oo, cool.
[04:44] <pitti> tonyyarusso: I sent them to ubuntu-devel@, I'm not sure whether you scan that list for news anyway or it's better to add it to Ideas
[04:44] <pitti> or, whether you want to get spammed with those kinds of announcements in the first place :)
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> pitti: We try to watch as much as we can, but as a general rule we'd be more likely to catch stuff on -devel-announce.
[04:44] <pitti> tonyyarusso: ah, I see; I'm not sure that new features are important enough for -announce
[04:45] <pitti> tonyyarusso: and since u-devel@ is now much less crowded, I decided for that
[04:45] <pitti> tonyyarusso: me too :/
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> pitti: Maybe some sort of [UWN!!!]  flag in the subject line? ;)
[04:45] <pitti> tonyyarusso: ok, if you prefer stuff on Ideas, then I just add a line with a pointer
[04:46] <pitti> tonyyarusso: [UWN]  -> yay procmail :0
[04:46] <pitti> :) even
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> pitti: ubuntu-marketing@ would also work, as well as dropping some kind of comment on Gobby
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> Or the wiki page, depending on the stage of editing
[04:47] <pitti> tonyyarusso: hm, I don't feel like destroying the current editing version; what would you prefer, CC'ing -marketing@ or adding to the Ideas wiki page?
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> pitti: atm, CC'ing -marketing is probably more effective, just b/c of the current state.  I would like to get the Ideas page relevant again though, so if you throw it both places it will get both a) noticed, and b) help others realize it's a good spot
[04:49] <pitti> tonyyarusso: alright. thanks for the suggestions!
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> Thank you for the input!
[05:13] <seaLne> hiya i was wondering what the best way of getting new behindubuntu interviews mentioned in the newletter was?
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> seaLne: Drop them on the Ideas page for it.
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> seaLne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Ideas
[05:17] <seaLne> i just had a look and it didn't seem to have been edited in a few months
[05:17] <seaLne> so i was thinking that wasn't the way now
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> seaLne: You're absolutely correct - but you're now the third person today with that type of question, so I hope to revive it :)  It's just that we weren't really getting idea submissions, and were having to find stuff on our own.
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> This way is so much cooler :)
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> seaLne: You could also hit up the -marketing mailing list if you'd like
[05:25] <seaLne> ok added to wiki
[05:26] <MenZa> hey jenda
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> Whoa.  We even got a high-five from Mark for the latest UWN
[06:56] <Burgwork> tonyyarusso: that we did
[06:56] <Burgwork> tonyyarusso: please turn off your away message :)
[07:36] <Burgwork> subscriptions to ubuntu-news are way up
[08:06] <beuno> hellos
[08:07] <jenda> yo beuno
[08:08] <beuno> how's it going?
[08:08] <jenda> tired
[08:08] <jenda> just came back from a seminar.
[08:18] <beuno> ;D
[08:18] <beuno> do you know if there's any news on the webpage?
[08:19] <jenda> there would be, if I got bzr working :)
[08:20] <beuno> ooops
[08:20] <beuno> heh, ok ok
[08:21] <beuno> I've been playing with some PHP stuff, but I'm waiting for a *frontend* on the howto section to really give it a start
[08:25] <jenda> a frontend?
[08:26] <beuno> yeah, the CSS layout
[08:30] <jenda> Wait, he doesn't!
[08:31] <beuno> lol
[08:31] <beuno> well
[08:31] <beuno> I just figured it out
[08:32] <beuno> so I guess that's all that matters  ;D
[08:32] <beuno> going to get something working by friday
[08:32] <beuno> gonno try at least
[10:50] <jenda> AAARGH
[10:51] <jenda> I just lost $30 on currency fluctuations :/
[10:52] <beuno> 8|
[10:53] <beuno> not very fun...
[10:54] <jenda> Fortunately, I made 220 on the stuff.
[10:54] <jenda> so That leaves $190 for marketing :l
[10:54] <jenda> that sucks, a bit, but it still leaves something.
[10:54] <jenda> Lemme see if I lost anything on the euros.
[10:58] <beuno> selling what?
[10:59] <tsmithe> evening
[10:59] <jenda> posters and stickers
[11:00] <jenda> beuno: I don't consider the cash mine.
[11:00] <tsmithe> jenda, you're into currency trading too?
[11:00] <jenda> tsmithe: since y'all pay in USD, and I bought the stuff in CZK, what choice do I have?
[11:00] <tsmithe> oh
[11:00] <beuno> got it
[11:00] <tsmithe> i thought you were looking for a profit :)
[11:00] <tsmithe> i've gotta start doing that...
[11:01] <jenda> hehe
[11:02] <tsmithe> did i pay in usd?
[11:02] <jenda> tsmithe: I think the margin is a bit too low to interest you.
[11:02] <tsmithe> yeah
[11:02] <jenda> tsmithe: dunno, might've been euro.
[11:02] <tsmithe> i think i paid in euros yeah... but not czk
[11:02] <jenda> I made them $190 on an investment of about $600
[11:02] <tsmithe> cool
[11:03] <tsmithe> i'm sure if i waited long enough the dollar would go up to around 60. meaning about 5p in the pound profit... or 5% :)
[11:03] <jenda> I doubt it.
[11:03] <jenda> But someone did just gain my $30, somewhere :)
[11:04] <beuno> jenda, how does Ubuntu handle all this type of things?
[11:04] <jenda> beuno: it doesn't :)
[11:04] <beuno> We want to make posters and tshirts and all that to sell here
[11:04] <jenda> that's where the DIY project comes in.
[11:04] <jenda> Do It Yourself
[11:04] <beuno> but I'm not sure if that's going to conflict somehow
[11:04] <jenda> All finances are private.
[11:04] <jenda> Not at all, it's exactly what I want you to do :)
[11:05] <beuno> really?
[11:05] <beuno> that would be a good way to finance the LoCo...
[11:05] <jenda> And Canonical seems to support it, at least quietly, in a way.
[11:05] <jenda> yes, you can do that.
[11:05] <beuno> oh, cause I know Mozilla doesn't
[11:05] <jenda> Just make sure you're being transparent about it.
[11:05] <jenda> I will publish all my finances on the DIY site once it's done.
[11:05] <jenda> beuno: what's your primary language?
[11:06] <beuno> spanish
[11:06] <jenda> wooo
[11:06] <jenda> And would you be interested in making and selling spanish posters?
[11:06] <beuno> absolutely
[11:06] <beuno> I can finance some of it myself to get it started
[11:06] <beuno> in fact...
[11:07] <beuno> I have a branch in spain (I'm in argentina) so maybe I can distribute them there too...
[11:07] <tsmithe> i could do english posters :)
[11:09] <jenda> meh
[11:09] <jenda> $148, it looks like :(
[11:10] <jenda> a few more payments might come in, I s'pose, but not budging much from there.
[11:10] <jenda> It's still cash, though :)
[11:10] <tsmithe> (to the side) who's he talking to?
[11:10] <tsmithe> hi jenda :)
[11:11] <beuno> jenda, so how can I help with this?
[11:11] <jenda> get the swag design from doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing
[11:11] <jenda> redesign it for spanish...
[11:11] <jenda> get it printed...
[11:11] <jenda> sell.
[11:11] <jenda> you can keep the money.
[11:11] <tsmithe> $$$
[11:12] <beuno> lol
[11:12] <jenda> If you use it for the locoteam... that's perfect :)
[11:12] <beuno> where can I send the redesign so others con use it?
[11:12] <jenda> I used it to pay for ubuntuforums.org vBulletin license and DNS hosting for next year :)
[11:12] <jenda> and I still have those $$ left for marketing.
[11:12] <jenda> beuno: me :)
[11:12] <jenda> I'll upload them there.
[11:13] <beuno> cool
[11:13] <jenda> And it'll all be on the DIY website, eventually.
[11:13] <beuno> great
[11:13] <jenda> (BTW, anyone can upload them once they join the marketing team in launchpad)
[11:13] <beuno> I'm starting to get an idea of how this works
[11:13] <tsmithe> jenda, i know
[11:13] <jenda> beuno: feel free to do anything with english text, too.
[11:13] <tsmithe> when i have something to upload, i'll go
[11:13] <beuno> I've been in the launchpam MT for a while now
[11:13] <tsmithe> "wow! that's so cool!"
[11:13] <beuno> Martin Albisetti
[11:14] <jenda> cool
[11:14] <jenda> beuno: next step, learn bzr :)
[11:14] <jenda> and ssh
[11:14] <beuno> yes, I've been fighting with it all day
[11:14] <beuno> ssh and stuff I can do
[11:14] <beuno> I manage a few linux servers
[11:14] <beuno> so I know my way around the console
[11:14] <jenda> cool ;)
[11:14] <beuno> much better then the GUI  ;D
[11:14] <tsmithe> fo sho
[11:15] <jenda> Well, unless you become a massproducing swag-spewing machine, you don't really have to worry about it :)
[11:15] <jenda> Dan and I can do it ;)
[11:15] <beuno> well, I'm gonno run this by the LoCo members and see what they think
[11:15] <beuno> yeah, that would be great at first
[11:16] <beuno> until I can understand how it works well enough not to break anything
[11:16] <jenda> beuno: BTW, once you have it ready, fill me in on the details...
[11:16] <tsmithe> and me
[11:16] <tsmithe> i wanna be up to date on all the goss
[11:16] <jenda> beuno: it's possible that printing here and the entire pack to you would be cheaper than printing there ;)
[11:16] <beuno> you think so?
[11:16] <tsmithe> more likely than not
[11:17] <beuno> maybe it will be the other way around
[11:17] <tsmithe> hes in czechorepublic
[11:17] <jenda> beuno: If, however, anyone in the LoCo owns a printer.... ;)
[11:17] <beuno> I'm in Argentina
[11:17] <jenda> Shouldn't matter - we can compare the prices anyway.
[11:17] <jenda> ;)
[11:17] <beuno> yeah
[11:17] <beuno> well
[11:17] <beuno> let's see
[11:18] <beuno> I made tshirts a while back with text on em for 4.5 us dollars
[11:18] <beuno> per tshirt
[11:18] <jenda> but what quality?
[11:18] <jenda> (BTW, that's very cheap ;))
[11:18] <beuno> pretty good, I've washed the one I used over 30 times and still is perfect
[11:18] <beuno> yeah, Argentina ir really cheap right now
[11:18] <beuno> is
[11:18] <jenda> Yeah, Argentina is a good country for this too :)
[11:19] <jenda> (BTW, shipping prices are an issue too)
[11:19] <beuno> yes
[11:19] <beuno> that's a different story
[11:19] <jenda> shipping a shirt from here costs cca $4
[11:19] <jenda> anywhere
[11:19] <jenda> par avion ;)
[11:19] <tsmithe> beuno, that's an amazing price
[11:19] <tsmithe> here it's more like 5
[11:19] <tsmithe> so 8$
[11:20] <beuno> yeap
[11:20] <beuno> and I only made 50
[11:20] <tsmithe> wow
[11:20] <beuno> I guess the price lowers
[11:20] <tsmithe> that was for 100
[11:20] <beuno> for more
[11:20] <tsmithe> indeedy
[11:20] <beuno> it was the classic "no, I won't fix your computer" one
[11:21] <jenda> hehe
[11:21] <jenda> beuno: I will be making shirts soon, but I'll be aiming for higher quality.
[11:21] <beuno> I got pretty tired of getting asked if I could take a look at...
[11:21] <jenda> Polo shirts, too.
[11:21] <beuno> oh, REALLY high quality
[11:22] <jenda> well, quality that'll make you wear it because it's a t-shirt, not because it has Ubuntu on it :)
[11:22] <beuno> it's a good angle
[11:23] <tsmithe> and i said decent
[11:23] <tsmithe> not crappy
[11:23] <tsmithe> hmm
[11:24] <jenda> hehe
[11:25] <tsmithe> well, after that kind of outburst, i had to make it feel less awkward in here!
[11:25] <beuno> lol
[11:25] <tsmithe> wow awkward is a word where both syllables have a "w"
[11:25] <tsmithe> i never noticed english having so many "w"s before
[11:26] <tsmithe> hmm
[11:26] <tsmithe> i'll just go talk to a scarecrow
[11:26] <jenda> tsmithe: I noticed.
[11:27] <jenda> I do keyboard layouts :/
[11:27] <jenda> it makes my life difficult :)
[11:27] <tsmithe> :)
[11:27] <tsmithe> qwerty
[11:27] <tsmithe> right next to e
[11:27] <tsmithe> but how do you mean "do"?
[11:28] <jenda> I use my own customised dvorakish layout.
[11:28] <jenda> And I'm working on a full Czech dvorak layout.
[11:28] <jenda> Totally impossible task :/
[11:29] <jenda> and I'm also trying to make the 21st century Czech keyboard, which expects you to type English quite often as well as Czech.
[11:29] <jenda> W is very common in E
[11:29] <jenda> NEVER used in C
[11:29] <jenda> :/
[11:29] <jenda> as are FG and Q.
[11:30] <tsmithe> awk
[11:30] <tsmithe> that's a lot of hacking you'd have to do
[11:30] <tsmithe> i hate having to do accents and umlauts
[11:30] <tsmithe> stupid crappy keyboards
[11:31] <tsmithe> they're a rubbish medium anyway
[11:31] <jenda> hehe
[11:31] <jenda> not if you set them up right :)
[11:32] <tsmithe> really?
[11:32] <tsmithe> how can i do it
[11:32] <jenda> use xmodmap :)
[11:33] <jenda> man xmodmap
[11:33] <jenda> and:
[11:33] <jenda> nano /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.<languagecode>
[11:33] <tsmithe> huh does that help with accents?
[11:33] <tsmithe> really?
[11:33] <tsmithe> how?
[11:33] <tsmithe> hmm
[11:34] <tsmithe> i use it for multimedia keys
[11:34] <jenda> it's quite tough to master, really ;)
[11:34] <tsmithe> i know
[11:34] <tsmithe> that's why i stopped there
[11:34] <jenda> but once you know your way around, it can do anything to your keyboard.
[11:34] <jenda>   
[11:34] <tsmithe> wow
[11:35] <tsmithe> "i'll do anything for you, dear, anything, for you, dear, anything... anything?... anything for you!"
[11:35] <tsmithe> ...
[11:35] <somerville32> Did you guys read Mark's letter?
[11:35] <tsmithe> which one?
[11:35] <somerville32> The one praising UWN24 :D
[11:36] <tsmithe> ah yeah
[11:36] <tsmithe> i read it
[11:36] <tsmithe> congrats
[11:36] <tsmithe> :)
[11:36] <jenda>  - teh bt eekly es
[11:36] <jenda> :)
[11:36] <tsmithe> hey that's a crazy kind of "w"
[11:36] <tsmithe> all curly and junk
[11:36] <somerville32> :D
[11:37] <tsmithe> n
[11:37] <jenda> somerville32: Actually, I accidentally deleted that letter from the ubnutu-marketing list queue, so I had to ask him to resend it :)
[11:37] <tsmithe> and that n
[11:37] <tsmithe> !
[11:37] <jenda> tsmithe: it's an 'omega'
[11:37] <tsmithe> ah
[11:37] <somerville32> Doh!
[11:37] <tsmithe> you fool
[11:37] <tsmithe> !
[11:38] <beuno> jenda, FYI, I got to talk to dan for a while over jabber and we're back on track   ;D
[11:38] <jenda> cool 
[11:38] <jenda> tsmithe: :)
[11:38] <tsmithe> :)
[11:39] <jenda> tsmithe: maybe it was a subconscious excuse to write to Mark ;)
[11:39] <tsmithe> :D
[11:43] <somerville32> "Thanks, Corey & co!"
[11:43] <somerville32> Yeah for us!
[11:45] <Burgwork> somerville32: congrats on your hard work
[11:45] <Burgwork> congrats on all our hard work
[11:45] <somerville32> Thanks! :)
[11:59] <jenda> Burgwork, somerville32, the team: congrats ;)
[12:00] <tsmithe> now that's not just a "bit" late
[12:00] <tsmithe> hey wait
[12:00] <tsmithe> ah
[12:00] <tsmithe> it's only ten minutes
[12:00] <tsmithe> carry on
[12:00] <tsmithe> :)
[12:00] <tsmithe> ...
[12:02] <jenda> lol ;)