=== rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-052-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jozo- [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo__ [n=slomo@p5486ED50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.123.24] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinuxium [n=selinium@82-34-184-232.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unaffiliated/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@40-88-199-200.vcnet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@40-88-199-200.vcnet.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye"] [01:16] ajmitch: whiprush is at LUG meeting... [01:16] ? [01:16] stunned, apparently he is "finishing up some stuff" [01:18] some needs to stage an intervention :-) [01:18] that sounds like the Mafia! [01:18] the first rule of ... [01:19] :) [01:19] Burgwork: burning bridges? [01:20] no idea, as the lug is apparently still holding their meetings at his workplace [01:22] ./win 183 [01:22] he still needs to be on irc / jabber now and then , because he dosent use the software we do dosent make him not a freind imho [01:22] but thats upto him i guess :) === ajmitch still talks to him [01:24] win 12 [01:24] he talks to me on jabber a fair amount [01:24] i guess i just need to add him to my jabber list heh [01:24] geez, you people are terrible typists, zul and sladen [01:24] :) [01:24] win 32134 [01:24] :) [01:24] win 4493038403484 [01:24] ridiculous [01:25] it is 4:30 and I am at work [01:25] win -30 [01:25] lol [01:25] win nullity [01:26] /win > /dev/null [01:26] Burgwork: sorry....dealing with a Kconfig :P [01:26] wow you still use kconfig ? [01:26] ouch [01:26] its a bug if its not in system settings [01:26] :) [01:26] imbrandon: for porting xen yeah i do [01:27] ohhh i was thinking kcontrol /me headdesks [01:27] must be he hasn't had enough Mt. Dew today [01:27] hehe [01:27] i'm on pepsi today, out of dew and too lazy to goto the store tonight [01:27] meh...mountain dew is disgusting [01:28] That reminds me. I saw a picture of imbrandon with a mountain dew... [01:28] whenever I think of the borg or some bionic machine I always think of it running on Mt. Dew [01:28] probably on my blog ( or the same picture thats on my blog ) of the KDE crew at UDS [01:28] heh thats nothing i seen him with a crack pipe for liking shakira [01:28] LOL [01:29] somerville32: http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/uds_mtv/kubuntu_uds_mtv.jpg [01:29] Hmm... [01:29] Who is the hot dude with the mountain dew? === somerville32 wonders. [01:29] 404 [01:29] if you are refering to me and hot in the same sentance i hope your of the female gender :) [01:30] Burgwork: really? [01:30] wow [01:30] hold on [01:30] "The requested URL /misc/uds_mtv/kubuntu_uds_mtv.jpg was not found on this server." [01:30] Burgwork: http://mirror.imbrandon.com/misc/uds_mtv/kubuntu_uds_mtv.jpg [01:30] try that one [01:31] that works [01:31] yea, its a dns thing, i'm migrating to a new box, so somethings mught be screwy atm [01:31] mirror.* is the new box [01:32] heh i like the jono pic [01:32] lol [01:32] yea, thats a blackmail pic :) [01:32] for susan [01:33] daniel holbach is in the bg too if you look real close [01:33] zul: ^ === ajmitch looks [01:33] heh i like the foreground better [01:34] :) [01:34] jono just doesn't do it for me, sorry [01:34] hahaha i think he means the legs :) [01:35] i have a few more pictures from UDS, i need to get them all uploaded i guess === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] imbrandon: Indeed you do. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] heh [01:45] imbrandon: Were you able to get the box setup? [01:46] its what i'm waiting on dns for , here lemme get you an account on the old one for the time being [01:46] one sec [01:47] ok setup [01:48] somerville32: see query === ademan [n=dan@h-68-164-187-134.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121kf1.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] Can anyone check why my digikam_0.9.0~rc2-0ubuntu3 upload (1st after loooog time) does not show up on revu? [02:13] allee: are you sure you uploaded to REVU instead of ubuntu official? [02:13] minghua: yeap. [02:14] Hmm, I don't know then [02:14] minghua: i'm no motu so how can I upload to ubuntu official [02:14] you can, it will just be silently dropped [02:14] heh never tried. sounds like fun ;) [02:17] if anybody has the time, 2 bugs can be fixed with an easy repackaging [02:17] bug 2379 and bug 56436 [02:17] Malone bug 2379 in electricsheep "Screensaver uses only 1/4 of display size" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/2379 [02:17] Malone bug 56436 in electricsheep "Doesn't show up in gnome-screensaver list" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56436 [02:18] edit a .desktop file and change the location of a .desktop file [02:18] If I knew how to package, I'd do it myself === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] ash211: are the bugs assigned to motu? [02:20] Heya gang [02:21] don't think so [02:21] 2379 is, 56436 isn't [02:21] electricsheep is in universe [02:21] what's the point of assigning bugs to MOTU anyway... [02:23] I don't know stuff. But I suppose bugs are only fixed when confirmed and assigned [02:23] they're both confirmed [02:23] think I should assign 56436 to MOTU ? [02:23] are you a part of the no [02:23] sorry [02:24] that should have been just no [02:24] probably not, that package is in main I think?+ [02:24] don't assign bugs to people [02:24] no, electrcsheep is in universe [02:24] only subscribe [02:25] LaserJock: sure about that? [02:25] yes [02:25] ok [02:25] yes [02:25] [sry] [02:26] <_MMA_> LaserJock: Got a min? #ubuntustudio [02:26] both have MOTU subscribed to them [02:27] I guess I just wanted to get them into the logs so if somebody who can package saw them, they'd get fixed === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] imbrandon, The server is off :/ [02:35] why do I get these errors when pbuilding a package that uses kde.mk in rules: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36713/ [02:38] That's an apt issue. It shouldn't have anything to do with kde.mk [02:38] ryanakca: Is it because you haven't updated your pbuilder recently enough, and it's trying to get an outdated version of that package? [02:39] RAOF: I just updated? [02:39] ryanakca: So, no :) [02:39] ryanakca: update you pbuild environment. You package list refers to gettext 0.15.1.. but 0.16... is now in feisty [02:40] allee: reupdating... *twiddles* === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] allee: the only thing that isn't updated is this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36740/ [02:42] ... o.o [02:42] wow, I got e-mail. === bluefoxicy guesses he should update pax-utils then. [02:43] ryanakca: well, that only lists pkgs that are already installed and out of date. Important is that the pkg lists are updated, so next pbuild will try to install the lasted version of gettext in the archive [02:43] ah, kk, thanks :) === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] ryanakca: np [02:44] allee: while I'm at it, d'you know of a good example package for learning how to package something that uses cdbs + qmake-qt4? === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] ryanakca: no I've not looked at qt4 or kde4 yet. Maybe you should ask show to find all pkgs depending on qt4 and cdbs? (<- I don't know ;) [02:47] s/depending/build-dep/ [02:48] hmm... apt-cache show | grep qt4 | grep cdbs ... except that would take forever, and I don't know how to show all packages... === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] apt-cache show `dpkg -l | awk command to display second collumn and join them` | grep qt4 | grep cdbs [02:53] apt-cache rdepends qt4 might do you some good, though a depends doesn't necessarily == a build-depend [02:54] You can use grepdctrl too but I can never remember the syntax [02:54] ryanakca, bddebian: use apt-cache showsrc <- 'we' are interested in build-deps not install depends [02:55] bddebian: yeah, grep-dcrtl is a nightmare ;) [02:56] I have a question === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] I'm syncing with pax-utils-0.1.15 today [02:56] it's also in debian, maintained separately, by someone else. [02:57] my package uses cdbs; I don't know what theirs uses [02:57] do I have to release this as 0.1.15-0ubuntu1 or 0.1.15? [02:57] allee: bddebian: I think I should use: grep-dctrl -i qt4 -a cdbs [02:58] but what would be the filename? [02:59] uhm, anyone can spot the error: I've digikam 0.9.0~rc1-1~ach0dapper2 installed. I try to install showfoto 0.9.0~rc2-0ubuntu2~ach0edgy1 that has: Replaces: digikam (<< 0.9.0~rc2~0). Nevetheless dpkg -i fails because that showfoto has files also in digikam [02:59] what provides x includes? I'm searching threw the output of "apt-cache search x includes"... can't seem to find anything though [03:00] allee: is it because showfoto is trying to replace rc2, but only rc1 is installed? [03:01] ryanakca: << rc2 should be true for rc1 too, right? [03:01] or wait, no, nevermind... no clue, sorry... [03:01] yeah [03:01] I just noticed :) [03:03] nite, it's toooo late already [03:04] nite allee [03:10] yawn === joejaxx does a dance [03:21] Hello everyone [03:21] Heya joejaxx [03:22] bddebian: hello [03:22] how are you today? [03:23] OK thanks, you? [03:23] i am well === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] just looking over some of my projects [03:26] and planning some things [03:26] bddebian: i want to have a etch chroot :P [03:26] Joy === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch looks for something to break === joejaxx suggests udev [03:28] lol === joejaxx gives ajmitch a hammer [03:28] joejaxx: you don't need a hammer to break udev ;-) [03:28] not helpful [03:28] jdong: haha :P [03:29] how about break azureus [03:29] OH WAIT IT IS ALREADY BROKEN! [03:29] ajmitch: twofish? [03:29] jdong: haha! [03:29] and there still isn't a fix in edgy-proposed === jdong eyes Fujitsu [03:29] ;-) [03:29] :P [03:29] I know we all hate java apps... === theCore [n=alex@unaffiliated/thecore] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] but I spent money on 4GB of RAM and Azureus can't use 3GB to download a 1-minute MP3 if it doesn't run.... [03:30] jdong: not i :) [03:30] haha [03:31] imo, azureus isn't good at all [03:31] i hate java [03:31] do not* [03:31] :P [03:31] ajmitch: :) [03:32] Admiral_Chicago: you like python? === ajmitch leaves [03:32] :( === sailingboarder [n=sailingb@pool-71-98-237-11.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] sorry, I didn't mean to start a language war [03:33] joejaxx: i kinda do === sailingboarder [n=sailingb@pool-71-98-237-11.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:33] Admiral_Chicago: oh ok [03:33] Admiral_Chicago: i have not coded in python [03:33] Admiral_Chicago: only c++ and java [03:34] joejaxx: java is slow and security blows === jdong codes in python, C/C++, and java [03:34] Admiral_Chicago: java is actually pretty fast once it starts running [03:34] all my viruses were in windows and 75% written in java === plugwash preffers real compiled languages without those horrors known of as garbage collectors [03:34] Admiral_Chicago: it's the initial JIT compile overhead [03:34] VB.net, java, beginning fortran [03:34] plugwash: c++! [03:34] :D [03:34] must get arround to trying C++ [03:35] anyone here ever learn pascal? [03:35] yep :) [03:35] lupine_85: :) [03:35] Object Pascal ftw! [03:35] yes, the later borland variants are actually pretty nice [03:35] yeah [03:35] :D [03:35] there's a Free compiler for linux [03:35] www.freepascal.org [03:35] nice [03:35] iso pascal by all accounts sucks [03:36] anyone know if Ktorrent uses XHTML or wahtever the engine is for Konquiu [03:36] and lazarus.freepascal.org if you miss delphi/kylix [03:36] Admiral_Chicago: KHTML [03:36] Freepascal is in the archive isn't it? [03:36] Admiral_Chicago: it embeds a Konqueror [03:36] jdong: that's what i thought it did [03:36] !info fpc [03:36] freepascals source is in the ubuntu archives, but no binaries [03:36] Package fpc does not exist in any distro I know [03:36] fpc needs fpc to build, you see... :) [03:36] Admiral_Chicago: hey, it's an easy way to get a browsing component in a KDE app :D [03:36] the buildd's can't build it because it is a self hosting compiler [03:37] since it's written in object pascal [03:37] Hmm, I tried to build it once [03:37] Admiral_Chicago: their tracker communication uses kio/http too [03:37] Admiral_Chicago: in fact, it's almost completely built on the KDE stack [03:37] more importantly, i broke my candy cane :\ [03:37] couldn't rules download the appropriate static compiler? [03:37] lupine_85 technically sure it could, not sure if that would comply with ubuntu policy though [03:37] bddebian: i have officially installed debian :) [03:38] you could also include the starting compiler in the source pacakge, again the only issue is policy [03:38] bddebian: well "installed" [03:38] idempotent builds and such? :) [03:38] it seems like very few people can upload binaries to ubuntu [03:38] freepascal already builds the compiler and main rtl 3 times as part of the standard build process [03:39] and if the second and third compiler binaries don't match it is considered a failure === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] plugwash: ask in #ubuntu-devel (or the mailing list), maybe? === bronson [n=bronson@adsl-75-36-147-248.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] I don't see how to build a self-hosting compiler without some exception made [03:40] plugwash: just like gcc :) [03:40] and no fpc means no lazarus :( [03:40] that program is seriously cool [03:41] i should learn ada [03:41] still, you can just "alien" the official rpm s and it all "just works" [03:41] if you wan't to try then sure go ahead, personally i've tried pushing before and largely failed [03:42] the debian deps of freepascal should also install with no problems on ubuntu === fernando__ [n=fernando@189.0.143.109] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon23430.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] Hey guys [03:50] and gals [03:50] I got a build error email from launchpad about a pacakge I merged [03:50] nice there is an ada compiler [03:51] from the log it looked like the build rules tried to remove apt and that cause a problem?? [03:51] can someone take a look at the log and correct me? it's not long [03:52] rmjb: ignore it, it's not your fault [03:52] rmjb are you sure it was the build rules and not the build deps dependency resoloution? [03:52] Building dependency tree... [03:52] The following packages will be REMOVED: [03:52] apt* build-essential* g++* g++-4.1* libstdc++6* libstdc++6-4.1-dev* [03:52] if it was the latter don't worry about it its a known issue with the feisty repositries [03:53] I thought those packages would stay once debhelper is in the build deps [03:53] but I guess something was going on today? [03:58] the version of libstdc++ currently in the feisty repositries is uninstallable and it seems some even more core library is conflicting with older versions of libstdc++ [03:59] the result is a lot of stuff currently cannot be installed/upgraded without forcing some essential packages to be removed [03:59] which apt will not do unless you proceed past a REALLY strong warning [04:00] hello? === bluefoxicy pokes jdong [04:00] oh... so some manual tweaking of the build environments is needed in that case? [04:01] rmjb: yes, be patient & it will be fixed [04:01] bluefoxicy: Segmentation Fault. Signal 11 sent to pid 0: Attempted to raise rlimit_core 4096->0 [04:01] ;-) [04:01] no probs... just wanted to know if it was something I had to fix on my end [04:01] jdong: rofl! Did you ever get over to #pax this weekend? [04:01] thanks for the info :) [04:01] also I need to know [04:01] whats needed is waiting for the packages in question to be fixed, then the buildds should be able to be updated normally [04:02] do I need to label my package pax-utils-0.1.15-0ubuntu1 if there's a Debian pax-utils maintained separately? [04:02] plugwash: and I guess the buildd admins will re-queue the failed builds === mruiz [n=mruiz@200-126-79-213.bk5-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] bluefoxicy: unfortunately no didn't get the chance [04:03] jdong: nods [04:03] bluefoxicy: if you're adamant on maintaining a separate package, then yes [04:03] so the current feisty version is 0.1.13-0ubuntu1, not hard to change that to 0.1.15-0ubuntu1 [04:04] ajmitch: I have the just-released-5-minutes-ago version and don't feed debian because I'm not equipped to send them stuff [04:04] but yeah === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] I'll keep the versioning scheme then. [04:04] I see debian has a dfsg-free version [04:04] I wonder what licensing issues there were [04:04] dfsg-free? [04:04] pax-utils | 0.1.13.dfsg.1-2 | http://apt-proxy sid/main Sources [04:05] the dfsg in the version indicates that the upstream tarball has been modified for licensing reasons [04:05] hmm. [04:05] oh [04:05] shit. [04:05] * Remove original macho.h with Apple copyright but no license. [04:05] ajmitch: I compared the versions, yes [04:05] the macho was removed in 0.1.15 [04:05] oh good [04:05] I didn't know it was there before and uploaded it to edgy as-is, I should probably fix 0.1.13 [04:06] interesting name for a header [04:06] not really. [04:06] MACH .o [04:06] I know the reason behind it [04:06] still an interesting name [04:06] ajmitch: is this a debdiff? it looks off to me: http://librarian.launchpad.net/5186919/debdiff.diff [04:07] ajmitch: this is why I don't maintain any other packages ;) [04:07] rmjb: it is, but a debdiff of 2 binary packages, not source packages [04:07] dpkg-buildpackage -s -S -rfakeroot [04:07] dammit tilda === bluefoxicy clicks up on the console [04:07] ah, okay I'll submit a correct source debdiff and subscribe universe sponsors === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-065-036.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:08] /usr/bin/fakeroot: 152: debian/rules: Permission denied [04:09] .......... needs to be executable [04:11] quick question... with version strings like ~, if you have two packages where is the same but differs, how does apt-get determine which one to install? [04:11] wtf do I dput again? [04:11] e.g. would 1.0~ann be overwritten by 1.0~bob ? === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] i think past the tilde normal rules still apply [04:16] but i'm not sure [04:17] all the sensible packages I've seen have ~ [04:17] which is sensible :) [04:18] imo the best docs for this kind of thing is probablly the source [04:19] ajmitch: that's freaking weird. [04:19] I deleted macho.h and deleted #include from paxinc.h [04:19] then built a source package to look for what to fix [04:19] ....... it worked. Binaries work. [04:19] wtf? [04:19] you can't just rip out headers and expect the program not to puke [04:19] probablly only used on some platforms [04:20] or no longer used but not actually ripped out [04:20] eh, I'll build and try to install and see what happens :) [04:22] well. Uploading. *shrug* [04:22] Sp4rKy: are you here? === dous [n=dous@124.107.250.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kkubasik [n=kjk38@kjk38-laptop.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] lupine_85: You can use "dpkg --compare-versions" to check :) [04:30] dpkg --compare-versions 1.0~ann lt 1.0~bob && echo "true" [04:31] Returns true, so it seems lexographical is the way it works [04:32] cool :) [04:33] every time I think linux is missing something, it's really just that I don't know how to use my tools... :D [04:33] Pretty much, yeah :) [04:34] RAOF: it is lexographical [04:35] well that's for me for tonight [04:35] see y'all === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jokitalo@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fbond [n=fab@pool-72-92-138-194.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous_ [n=dous@124.107.250.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kkubasik [n=kjk38@kjk38-laptop.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chandu [n=Chandu@203.129.255.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chandu [n=Chandu@203.129.255.178] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] I don't suppose it would be considered a bad form to file a bug for something I want to fix in a SRU === jikanter [n=jordan@24.12.220.77] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] Laser_away: not if it needs fixing [06:43] crimsun_: ping? [06:43] Laser_away: i would think it would be ok ( unless its just a wishlist feature or something ) [06:44] but if its truely a bug [06:44] :) [06:44] crimsun_: i've changed the mailing address to u-u-s, and fought LP. i think you'd be able to subscribe to all bugs if you want. or i could point the buglist at your email. However, lots of fighting LP is involved in doing that. [06:44] imbrandon: it is, it's in Main but it's missing deps that supposedly make the package broken [06:45] ahh , yea [06:46] part of the problem I'm already doing an SRU for [06:46] Laser_away: sounds good to me :-) [06:46] but I noticed that there was also another Debian bug that was easy to fix [06:47] brainsik: wahoo! just the man I was looking for [06:47] brainsik: I'm working on python-imaging [06:47] but I can't figure out how to reproduce it [06:47] LaserJock: cool [06:47] LaserJock: what do you mean? [06:47] well, I tried import sane and that loaded fine [06:48] I need to know how to break it :-) [06:48] LaserJock: okay, the way it happened for me was that libjpeg62 wasn't installed === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] if you are on a graphical system, that's pretty much not an option === allee_ [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] but i'm doing this on a barebone web server [06:49] brainsik: well what I need is a "this is how you break it" to show both that it's broken and that I can fix it [06:50] 1) dpkg -r libjpeg62 [06:51] I am trying to verify my key for launchpad, and mutt seems to be unable to find my data. Does anyone think they could send me their .muttrc? [06:51] 2) load up python, then try and import the module [06:52] LaserJock: let me get you a more concrete example [06:54] brainsik: ok, well I'm not sure how critical this is then because there are lots of apps that bring in libjpeg62 [06:54] LaserJock: well it broke my web app server [06:54] true, that's not nice [06:55] but for non-server installs it should be fine [06:55] I can run it by mdz and see if he thinks it's worthy of an SRU [06:56] same for psycopg [07:02] brainsik: ok, I'm off for tonight, I'll see what I can do tomorrow [07:02] LaserJock: okay, i am generating an example, where should I send it [07:03] attach it to the bug report [07:03] okay [07:03] goodnight [07:03] also please explain that it affects server installs and broke you're webapp [07:03] I just need to "sell" it to the higher ups ;-) === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kkubasik [n=kjk38@kjk38-laptop.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] why would interdiff fail between two archives? === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia__ [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80 [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1096714520.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rytmisk [n=irc@81-231-105-125-no27.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic__ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:24] m/win 5 === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic__ is now known as Zic_ === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Quitte"] === Zic__ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:25] Burgundavia, ping [08:30] lastnode: pong === ademan [n=dan@h-68-164-187-134.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] Burgundavia, pm? [08:38] shoot === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode__ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode__ is now known as lastnode === selinuxium [n=selinium@82-34-184-232.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === proppy [n=proppy@free.mekensleep.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === proppy hugs dholbach === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-148-51.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seeker` [n=Seeker@84-12-167-90.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:21] mmm sleep [09:21] gnight all === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-49dd31ab97af5a78] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F738C5.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:52] good morning === somerville32 gives dholbach a big good morning bug. [09:54] ... [09:54] *hug [09:54] ahhhh... better :-) === dholbach hugs somerville32 back [09:54] how's it going? [09:54] Pretty good. Just pulling another all nighter. === somerville32 pants. === proppy hugs dholbach [09:56] hey proppy [09:57] hoy dholbach === dholbach hugs proppy back [09:57] receiving my macbook today [09:57] can't wait longer ! [09:58] hehe [10:03] i want a mac... unfortunately i have neither the monies or the space === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:05]