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kkathmanor use adept or synaptic to manage repositories12:13
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spitwisecomment out the universal line i believe its called12:14
billytwowillythe bar at the top of amarok with the file menu dissapeared. How do I get it back?12:14
crazyreddwolfkkathman when you ready i have several now that have the proftpd12:14
kkathmanready for what?12:15
cliveAnything!12:15
crazyreddwolfi thought you were helping me with  the ftp server12:15
spitwisedeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe12:15
spitwisethen sudo apt-get update12:15
kkathmancrazyreddwolf:  this I think will help you alot:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer12:16
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bgsteffensafter enabling the universe repositories, it still says it cannot find package w32codecs12:17
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spitwisedid you apt-get update?12:17
bgsteffensyeps12:17
kkathmanbgsteffens:  because its in the restricted-formats12:17
kkathmannot universe12:17
kkathmanwhich it what I said :)12:17
spitwisesudo apt-cache search w32codecs  ..12:17
bgsteffensummm12:17
kkathmanno sudo needed for apt-cache12:17
spitwiseoh12:18
spitwisesudo stuff in new for me12:18
bgsteffensthe only thing that isn't commented out is the backports12:18
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spitwisedid you uh save the file?12:19
spitwise;P12:19
kkathmanuncomment those also, then do a sudo apt-get update12:19
bgsteffensokee12:20
kkathmanw32 might be in backports now I dunno.. I forget where everything is :)12:20
spitwisei have multiverse uncommented as well - not sure the difference between the two12:20
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flaccidbbl12:20
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kkathmanI just uncomment them all so I dont have to go back12:21
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crazyreddwolfsorry that didn't realy help at all  i'm new with doing a linux system  and a lot of what they ae talken aout i have no idea what it is12:21
spitwiseit shouldnt be in backports12:21
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lenscapeanyone know how I get kubuntu to leave the search list in resolv.conf alone?12:22
kkathmancrazyreddwolf:  well, thats a great explanation....I dont run an ftp server myself so I dont know much more than proftpd is very popular12:22
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crazyreddwolfok  do you know any one that has set up a ftp server befor on her12:23
kkathmanyes , but I dont think they are around atm12:23
crazyreddwolfok12:23
crazyreddwolfif you do see him/her on can you send them my way12:24
andrew_hi12:24
kkathmansure12:24
andrew_ihave a question is this where i can get some help?12:24
kkathmanjust ask and maybe someone will know :)12:24
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bgsteffensoh, i have amd6412:25
bgsteffensThe Windows Codecs package cannot be used directly by the AMD64 distribution12:25
Bubba_Gumpwhat is 'grep'?12:25
kkathmanAHHH  hmmm yeah ...12:25
kkathmanBubba_Gump:  partial search12:25
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kkathmanman grep   for more details12:25
andrew_well im trying to make my own website and people say that since i have ubuntu i can just upload my cgi script to a linux webserver bu i dont know even where to begin:(12:25
kkathmanandrew_:  well you need to create your server first... install Ubuntu as a LAMP server I reckon then go from there12:26
spitwiseyou need an ftp client of some kind, the webserver address, username and password12:26
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kkathmanwell not necessarily if you are the one hosting the websever12:27
kkathmanwhich I assume12:27
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kkathmanif not, then yeah all you need is an FTP client12:27
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spitwiseeven where to begin is a vague q ;)12:27
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kkathmanyah it is12:27
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kkathmangotta crawl before you walk12:28
kkathmanand walk before you run12:28
andrew_well im gonna host it myself but is there a web server program or something?12:28
spitwiseyou have quite some reading to methinks12:28
kkathmanandrew_:  how much experience do you have with linux?12:28
andrew_me think so too :P12:28
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andrew_i have alot i just dont know how to make my own site12:29
spitwisei would adive making something on a free server, and then learning about hosting next12:29
spitwiseavise12:29
spitwiseadvise.12:29
spitwisetyping on coffee table not recommended12:29
chupiei installed kubuntu on my laptop just a little bit ago.. and since i've been using it, i haven't heard to cpu fan kick on.... what should i do?12:29
spitwisebe happy12:30
spitwise?12:30
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billytwowillylaugh at windows for having bad power management?12:30
kkathmanlike I said, start by installing an ubuntu server LAMP to be exact12:31
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chupieheh... well i dunno, just kinda noticed its getting a lil warmer than normal12:31
billytwowilly is there any way to get beryl to respect the hiding settings I have on my second panel in kubuntu and to not include the second panel in switcher?12:32
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andrew_how do i install a LAMP server?12:33
andrew_o ok12:33
andrew_i get ya from the server cd:P12:34
CVirusandrew_: sudo apt-get install LAMP12:34
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xenolGN guys12:34
spitwiseandrew: man apt12:35
spitwisein the konsole terminal12:35
andrew_it's not in the repos:(12:35
andrew_i tried12:35
spitwiseyou will need to sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:35
spitwiseand uncomment some lines.12:36
andrew_k12:36
spitwiseit will have tips commented int eh file12:36
andrew_i think ive done that when i first installes it12:36
CVirusandrew_: what is LAMP anyway ?12:37
_kuja_linux-apache-mysql-php12:37
andrew_a server prgram i guess12:37
CVirusandrew_: will you google before asking questions that you even know nuthing about ?12:37
CVirus_kuja_: of course I do know that12:37
spitwisei dunno about lamp, i've only meesed with apache12:38
spitwise12:38
CVirusandrew_: you dont even know what LAMP is and you want to install it ... does that make sense ?12:38
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_kuja_why should a person have to google for something when there is a perfectly good human being within range to ask?12:38
andrew_yup12:38
spitwiseheheh12:38
CVirusandrew_: its up to you then12:39
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CVirus!lamp12:39
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:39
CVirusandrew_: click the link .. copy and paste in your terminal and you're done12:39
jerpkuja, uhh, one gets a quicker response?12:39
spitwiselinux will be tough for you if you're not willing to do some research12:39
CVirusandrew_: listen to spitwise's words12:39
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andrew_kk12:39
spitwiseyou won't learn anything if you just paste commands from other people12:39
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_kuja_learn through massive breakage, download debian sid today :D12:40
Hexidigitalanyone in here have the kubuntu.org repository enabled for bleeding-edge KDE?12:40
spitwise:D12:40
_kuja_hexidigital, unless you're a developer, that's not much point in it12:41
Hexidigital_kuja_::  that was my next question... thank you :)12:41
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_kuja_**there's ....... my fingers are becoming increasingly dyslexic as of late.12:41
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Murchadh!bluetooth pairing12:43
ubotubluetooth: Bluetooth stack utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 60 kB12:43
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Bubba_Gumpso when is fiesty out?12:43
_kuja_in about 5 months, or so12:44
Bubba_Gumpand is it worth upgrading from edgy?12:44
Bubba_Gumpahh okay :12:44
Bubba_Gump:)12:44
spitwiseif you don't mind somethings breaking every once in a while ;)12:44
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spitwisemm12:45
spitwisesine ive installed kubuntu ive noticed not a lot of updates12:45
spitwisecompared with debian testing12:45
spitwiseis there something between 'stable' and 'bledding edge'?12:46
_kuja_not in ubuntu?12:46
spitwisepardon?12:46
molotoffhmmm12:47
_kuja_Nothing between stable and bleeding edge, in ubuntu, unless you count only upgrading every not, or upgrading every beta, or whatever12:47
spitwisemm12:48
spitwiseseemed to work better for me when i was using debian since i'm ppc12:48
notechmost distro's are like that, stable and devel (bleeding edge)12:48
spitwisekubuntu is quite nice though, and new to kde as well.12:49
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_kuja_I think I might set up a virtual machine and see how things are working in feisty as of current ...12:51
DaSkreechnikkiana: Night12:51
DaSkreechnixternal: What's Up?12:52
DaSkreechDink: How are you?12:52
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_kuja_o.O12:56
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_kuja_I agree DaSkreech, caffeine is probably the best answer, not yawning.12:58
DaSkreechOr sleep12:59
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_kuja_sleep, that sounds like a horrible idea01:00
_kuja_I just might do that01:00
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_kuja_d'oh, the channel went and died on me :(01:05
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BluesKaj_kuja_, splits01:06
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_kuja_eh?01:06
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hex_st0rm!adept crash01:08
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB01:08
DaSkreechsleep< those little slices of death01:08
DaSkreechHi BluesKaj01:08
hex_st0rm!adeptcrashfix01:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrashfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:08
LjL!adept crash fix01:08
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'01:08
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hex_st0rmthank you ljl01:08
LjL!adeptcrashfix is <alias> adept crash fix01:09
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL01:09
dettoaltrimentithis package iputils-arping is making my internet not work when I use windows- is this possible? either way, is it safe to remove that package?01:09
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matthewI'm having some trouble with flash sound in swiftfox. I'm running kubuntu 6.10, and swiftfox 2.0, with flash 9 beta201:09
DaSkreechdettoaltrimenti: Eh?01:09
matthewMy trouble is there is no sound.01:09
matthewI've tried editing the ~/firefoxrc file to include aoss, alsa, auto, and nothing works.01:10
DaSkreechmatthew: I'm Willing to wager it's more a problemwith flash9 beta01:10
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malik__there is one file in firefox or flash u need to edit01:10
matthewmaybe, but it works fine on my other computer01:10
malik__n channel sound to flsh01:10
matthewmalik, huh? What do you mean?01:10
malik__just a tic lemme dig it out for u01:11
matthewmalik__, k, thanks01:11
SchuenemannI just installed Sun's JDK via apt-get, how can I find out where it was installed?01:12
DaSkreechHow does GPL java affect Ubuntu?01:13
DaSkreechSchuenemann: I would suspect it's installed where it's supposed to01:13
DaSkreechSchuenemann: What are you looking for the compiler??01:13
_kuja_They'll be able to install it by default ... if they want to. It won't be fully gpl'ed for about 6 months or so though01:13
Schuenemannand that would be... ?01:13
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SchuenemannI want to set the environment variables01:13
_kuja_/usr/lib/jvm/01:13
Schuenemannclasspath, java_home...01:13
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_kuja_set the environment variables in your ~/.bash_profile01:14
Schuenemannthere it is, thank you01:14
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Schuenemannnot .bashrc?01:14
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_kuja_I would do it in the profile ... might work in the rc, might not matter much01:15
_kuja_I know the $PATH is set in the profile01:15
Schuenemannok01:15
Admiral_Chicagohellp all01:15
Admiral_Chicagoerr hello*01:15
matthewhey Admiral_Chicago01:15
malik__matthew: oki try this one first goto system settings n then sound system n then  hardware tab n make sure full duplex is OFF n see if that solves ur prob01:15
matthewlong time no see01:15
_kuja_Hmm, that's interesting, the bash_profile includes the file bashrc ...01:15
matthewmalik__, ok, h/o01:15
matthewmalik__, yes sir, it's off01:16
Admiral_Chicagomatthew: i know, I've been doing finals / updating my system01:16
matthewmalik__, not checked.01:16
malik__oki then leem dig out the editing one01:16
matthewAdmiral_Chicago, got a problem w/ flash sound...any ideas? Swiftfox 2.0, flash 9 beta2, kubuntu 6.1001:16
malik__sorry for typo01:16
malik__too cold here in ankara01:17
matthewmalik__, not to drop you for someone else, just thought I'd get another person onboard01:17
matthewmalik__, ok, I'll be here01:17
BluesKajcold in anakara...how cold ?01:17
Admiral_Chicagomatthew: first off, ALSA work?01:17
BluesKajerr ankara01:17
matthewAdmiral_Chicago, I've already tried all the "options" in the ~/firefoxrc thing01:18
matthewAdmiral_Chicago, ALSA works wonderfully, just not for media in swiftfox...lol01:18
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Admiral_Chicagomatthew in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c301:19
Admiral_Chicagohave you tired that?01:19
Schuenemann_kuja_: sorry, how do I set the variables? I thought it was just export $VARIABLE=path_list01:20
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racarrMaybe KDE could help you konqueror your browser problems01:20
racarroops, freudian slip!01:20
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dettoaltrimenti_matthew: are you using flash 9 or 7?01:20
_kuja_Schuenemann, that's right01:20
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Schuenemannit doesn't work... echo $JAVA_HOME echoes nothing01:21
_kuja_example: $JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java/home01:21
matthewdettoaltrimenti, flash 901:21
_kuja_wait01:21
_kuja_you have to export it too, I think01:21
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_kuja_export $VARIABLE01:22
BluesKajfreud gets too much credit for mere human mistakes01:22
matthewAdmiral_Chicago, checking it out know...01:22
Schuenemannexport $JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/01:22
SchuenemannI did this01:22
_kuja_nay01:23
matthewAdmiral_Chicago, I'm using 6.10, will these instructions work for me? Normally I would go ahead and try, but this is my work computer...01:23
_kuja_take off the $01:23
Admiral_Chicagomatthew: worked for me, but I only use FX not Swift01:23
matthewAdmiral_Chicago, ok, let me give it a shot...thank you01:23
Schuenemann_kuja_: same thing01:24
BluesKajdidn't see any advantages to swiftfox when i was using dapper 64 bit01:24
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SchuenemannI've read it's 80% faster on 64 bit machines01:24
malik__matthew: flashplugin-nonfree is installed ?01:24
_kuja_Schuenemann: kuja@terra:/usr/lib/jvm$ export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun/ kuja@terra:/usr/lib/jvm$ echo $JAVA_HOME /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun/01:25
dettoaltrimenti_dumb question- how do you make a line of text in this chat room all red for the person you're talking to- just write their name? dettoaltrimenti_01:25
Schuenemannyes, just write their name... but that depends on  the IRC client01:26
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DaSkreechracarr: Ha ha :)01:26
Schuenemann_kuja_: did you install mustang?01:26
_kuja_Yeah, it was released not so long ago01:26
Schuenemannhow did you do it? I couldn't install01:26
malik__!mustang01:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mustang - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
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_kuja_I downloaded the .bin file from the java website, chmod +x it to make it executable, ran it with bash01:27
DaSkreechmalik__: I think it's a Firefox build01:27
Admiral_Chicagodo i need w32codecs to play .wma?01:27
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Schuenemannbut how did you set it with updat-alternatives ?01:28
_kuja_That extracted it into a folder in my home directory ... then I moved it to /usr/lib/jvm, and made it default01:28
Schuenemannupdate*01:28
Schuenemannhow did you make it default?01:28
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: yes01:28
Admiral_Chicagothanks01:28
Kr4t05When certain applications check my OS version, they return "Debian testing/unstable." How can I change this to "Kubuntu 6.10"?01:28
Admiral_Chicagoi couldn't figure it out, then i looked at the fiels01:28
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_kuja_sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun/jre/bin/java 1001:29
SchuenemannI'll try that01:29
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DaSkreechKr4t05: What does cat /etc/issue return ?01:29
Kr4t05Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l01:29
DaSkreechKr4t05: Which apps?01:29
Kr4t05DaSkreech: l33tsig01:30
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Jucatoprobably because Kubuntu packages are taken from Debian Sid01:30
Kr4t05I know someone else had a problem like this and fixed it by editing a text file.01:30
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malik__matthew: What worked was to 1) install alsa-oss and 2) change the FIREFOX_DSP setting in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to "aoss"01:31
DaSkreech_kuja_: Explanation of mustang01:31
Schuenemannmustang = java 601:31
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DaSkreechKr4t05: Serious?01:31
DaSkreechSchuenemann: Ah Of course01:31
Kr4t05DaSkreech: Yeah.01:31
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ernzHi, can someone please tell me how to create a desktop shortcut in Kubuntu please01:32
malik__u need to edit firefoxrc n change the FIREFOX_DSP setting to aoss01:32
DaSkreechKr4t05: You would think something called leet* would work better :)01:32
DaSkreechernz: Create a aluncher01:32
Schuenemannright click the desktop > new > link to application01:32
malik__hopefully that shud do the trick01:32
DaSkreechernz: Or what Schuenemann said01:32
ernzScheunemann: I tried that, but it doesn't accept files being dragged and dropped onto it.01:33
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SchuenemannI don't know if that's possible01:33
malik__does any one know anything abt todays updates?01:33
Schuenemannyou can drag the executable to the desktop too01:33
ernzFor example, I want a launcher for a folder: /home/me/Documents/01:33
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ernzAnd then I want to be able to drag and drop items into that and have it put into the folder.01:34
DaSkreechSchuenemann: Java 6 ==java 1.6 ?01:34
Schuenemannyes01:34
_kuja_I think it's a marketing thing01:34
DaSkreechIt's sun being dumb01:34
Jucatoernz: right-click -> Create New -> Link to Locations (URL) -> put in the location: "~/Documents" (without the quotes)01:34
_kuja_It's version bloat to the extreme.01:35
Schuenemann_kuja_: since that directory already contains 1.5, what do I do, now that I've extracted the 1.6 to /home ?01:35
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Jucatohm.. new kernel...01:35
malik__does any one know anything abt todays updates?01:35
_kuja_I put it at /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun/01:35
Schuenemannoh yeah, sorry :)01:36
DaSkreech_kuja_: What's in 1.6? Not sure how it could have gotten more bloated01:36
_kuja_I can't recall, didn't bother to looka t the changelist01:36
DaSkreechJucato: 2.6.20 supports Virtualized processors :)01:36
_kuja_I'm more than sure I will soon ... I really need to brush up on my java01:36
Schuenemannonly download 1.6 if you're a java programmer01:36
DaSkreech_kuja_: Then how can you say it's ... never mind I read version bloat as feature bloat01:37
ernzJucato: That is the sort of thing I am after. Thanks! Now is there a way of stopping the prompt for an action when dragging and dropping, and just make it Move by default?01:37
_kuja_I read it as pump up the version number: go from 1.4.2_06 to .... 5.0! w00t!01:37
Jucatoernz: press Shift when dragging it01:37
DaSkreech_kuja_: Well if i recall version 1.2 was java 201:37
Schuenemannyep01:38
ernzJucato: That's good enough! :) Thanks very much.01:38
_kuja_so was java 1.3, and java 1.4 ....01:38
Schuenemannit went from 1.4 to 1.5 because a lot changed01:38
Schuenemannnot really, java 3 never existed01:38
Schuenemannnot with this name01:38
Jucatoernz: pressing Ctrl copies it, pressing Ctrl+Shift makes a (sym)link to it01:38
_kuja_They promised not to go so long between releases anymore. Thankfully01:38
Schuenemannjava 7 (dolphin) is already being developed01:39
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_kuja_kuja@terra:~$ java -version01:39
_kuja_java version "1.6.0"01:39
_kuja_Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)01:39
_kuja_Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode)01:39
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ernzJucato: Sym link --> A shortcut?!01:40
_kuja_ernz: you betcha .... wait, I'm not jucato :-p01:40
Jucatoernz: sort of, yeah01:40
Schuenemann_kuja_: can you tell me again how did you make it available from update-alternatives?01:41
malik__so any one know anything abt todays updates?01:41
ernzJucato: Amazingly, helpful, cheers. (And to think I was just about to ditch KDE over something that simple!)01:41
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Jucato:O01:41
_kuja_sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/java/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun/jre/bin/java 1001:42
ernzJucato: (First day with KDE) :)01:42
Jucatohehe )01:42
Jucato:)01:42
Admiral_Chicago!fstab01:42
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:42
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Schuenemann_kuja_: what is this /usr/bin/java ?01:42
ernzHey! Jucato...01:42
_kuja_the place where you want the symlink to be made01:42
flaccidSchuenemann: its the java jre01:42
Jucatohuh?01:42
ernzYou seem learned, maybe you can answer a question that has been bugging me for a while about ubuntu01:43
DaSkreech_kuja_: So you installed java wihtout having any clue what it does?01:43
_kuja_the second argument, java, is the alternative, the third argument, /usr/lib.... is the binary, and the fourth is the priority number, I just make it up, because I haven't figured out what I should make th enumber just yet01:43
Schuenemannhumm I was about to ask that :p01:43
Jucatoernz: I can try, but I don't promise anything01:44
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_kuja_afterwards, sudo update-alternatives --config java01:44
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_kuja_You'll also need to setup something similar for javac, and perhaps jar, perhaps a couple of others01:44
_kuja_procedure is the same01:44
Jucatomalik__: new kernel (2.6.17-10) and bug ICQ fixes for Kopete01:44
darkocan some one tell me about routes?01:44
ernzIn windows (I know, sinful, the shame....) I can hit F2 on a USB device, rename it in the text box field, and press "OK!!!!" All other systems will now recognise that device with that new name, savvy?01:44
Schuenemannargh... why that?01:44
Schuenemannthere are a lot01:45
darkoi have a route i need to deleti it every time i log on01:45
darkoit keeps comming every time01:45
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_kuja_Schuenmann, java, javac, and perhaps appletviewer are the ones I would set?01:45
ernzJucato: I try the same in Ubuntu, and no matter what, sudo'n'all, I can't rename the blighters!! WHY!?01:45
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Schuenemannjavadoc...01:45
_kuja_sure, why not01:45
Jucatoernz: um... not really sure... haven't tried renaming any of the devices...01:46
ernzJucato: I resorted many a time to sticking it into a Windows machine, and just doing it there, but that feels like cheating.01:46
Schuenemanncan't I just add those to PATH?01:46
_kuja_Heck, why not just add /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun/bin to the path at this rate :D01:46
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_kuja_I set the java and javac, didn't bother with anything else01:46
ernz!rename01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
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_kuja_And now that I think about it, I should add it to the path.01:46
ernzJucato: I'm gonna find that out and then get right back to you...!01:46
Schuenemannso I should do --config javadoc etc?01:46
DaSkreechernz: What makes the name?01:47
_kuja_I'd set javadoc too01:47
_kuja_in fact, I will now01:47
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_kuja_sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javadoc javadoc /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun/bin/javadoc 1001:48
ernzDaSkreech?01:48
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SchuenemannJava(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)01:49
Schuenemann:p01:49
ernzDaSkreech: Sorry, I don't understand your question.01:49
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DaSkreechernz: On the divice how is it set intially?01:50
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malik__Jucato: is it safe to install em coz fourth update says that one should install linux-generic meta-package first in order to make everything work n go smoothly coz of different dependancy issues01:50
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DaSkreechernz: when you put in the USB thingy it comes upw ith a Name right?01:50
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ernzDaSkreech: In the case of the device I bought today ( USB Multi Card Reader ) it was prenamed as "usbdisk"01:50
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DaSkreechAh so it was named when it was formatted?01:50
ernzDaSkreech: I assume so.01:51
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ernzDaSkreech: My pen drive was named on XP, and kept it's name that is recognised by Kubuntu.01:51
DaSkreechAh so there goes that theroy :)01:51
ernzJucato/DaSkreech: It seems like such a simple thing to do, and I have never been able to do it in Ubuntu.01:51
Jucatomalik__: yes. your old kernels won't be overwritten and a new kernel will be installed. you can always boot into the older kernel if you want01:51
Admiral_Chicagoi've got a question01:52
Schuenemann_kuja_: I installed java 5 through apt-get, how do I remove it?01:52
DaSkreechernz: I'd have to figure out what Windows is doing to tell you. It's obviously changing something about the Volume so I would suspect ti's something like that01:52
Admiral_Chicagoi'm on amarok and have my music partition mounted on /mnt/Dapper01:52
DaSkreechernz: This is in Ubuntu or Kubuntu?01:52
Admiral_Chicagohowever! I am on the Feisty/Edgy system, and can only see /home and /media01:52
ernzDaSkreech: Neither work.01:53
Schuenemannernz: what's the problem? that info is the partition name and is recorded in the pen drive01:53
Admiral_Chicagowth, can someone help me01:53
DaSkreechernz: Maybe you can ask in #kde to see if anyone knows the difference between KDE and Windows01:53
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: you don't want to mount it in /media?01:53
Jucato!hidden | Admiral_Chicago01:53
ubotuAdmiral_Chicago: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles01:53
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: With what?01:53
ernzScheunemann: Couldn't tell you. All I know is that the drive is "Renamable" in Windows, but not on Linux. Perhaps a Fat32 thing???01:54
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no i use /mnt, isn't that the right place for mounting shares?01:54
malik__Jucato: so i should be safe it i install the automatic updates n none of my customised settinmgs will be changed far as looks n taskbar settings are concerned?01:54
DaSkreechSchuenemann: He wants to change it from the mount point I guess01:54
Schuenemannhmmm...01:54
Schuenemannnever tried that01:54
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I really don't know. these days Linux seems to be moving to /media...01:54
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Yes but why is that a problem?01:54
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DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: It is the right place01:54
Jucatomalik__: yep01:54
ernzDaSkreech/Jucato/Scheunemann: Same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12041201:54
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: because amarok only list /home and /media01:54
Admiral_Chicagonothing mounted as root01:55
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: go to that page01:55
DaSkreechJucato: Media is for mounted filesystems that are not intended to be permanent01:55
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Where?01:55
malik__Jucato: thanx01:55
rebeccahi. im trying to get my sound working.. im currently getting the error: "Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting" dialog pop up. I have via ac97 audio and it worked fine with debian. any ideas what i can try?01:55
_kuja_I'm back ...01:55
DaSkreechIn the Make collection box?01:55
Admiral_Chicagoah i saw DaSkreech and Jucato thank01:55
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DaSkreechrebecca: Me too :)01:56
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musyahow do i set my root password?01:56
rebeccaDaSkreech: if noone can help me ill just have to switch back to debian.. how about you?01:56
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Schuenemann!root | musya01:56
ubotumusya: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:56
_kuja_schuenmann: just sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java5-jdk (and any others you installed)01:56
Schuenemann_kuja_: I guess I'll keep it here, thanks01:57
musyaubotu: i understand that but for su -?01:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i understand that but for su -? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:57
DaSkreechrebecca: I just close it and close whatever is eating my CPU and I'm good after that01:57
Schuenemannmusya: ubotu is a bot :p01:57
Schuenemannwhy do you need to log as root?01:57
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Where is Amarok missing /mnt ?01:57
JucatoDaSkreech: in the Collections settings01:58
the_hammerapt-get distro upgrade how ya do that proper?01:58
Schuenemannyou should use sudo or kdesu, when needed01:58
DaSkreechJucato: ah that's bad I don't think that you can type in there01:58
JucatoDaSkreech: actually, if you go to / in any KDE app, too01:58
musyaSchuenemann: yea i kinda figured...lol...wierd...but cool... yea i want to set my root passwd i know what it is for sudo but when i type in su- it doesnt work01:58
rebeccaDaSkreech: but does your sound work? mine doesnt at all and the message keeps popping up. if i close it my system hangs for 6secs then it pops up again01:58
Schuenemannmusya: they say there's no need for sy01:58
DaSkreechJucato: I know but most of them yo ucan type01:58
Jucatomusya: read that link to understand why01:58
Schuenemannsu*01:58
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DaSkreechrebecca: If I close something then it works after like a minute01:59
musyaSchuenemann: the last one i got?01:59
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_kuja_musya: if you want to set up su anyway, It's not difficult to accomplish01:59
rebeccaDaSkreech: oh, im not that lucky...01:59
Schuenemannhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo01:59
Schuenemannthis one01:59
musyaah,ok01:59
rebeccacan anyone help with fixing my sound because without sound i can't continue using this??01:59
DaSkreechrebecca: how many apps do you have open?01:59
SchuenemannI found it strange too, but up to now I never needed su :)01:59
ernz"mtools01:59
ernz!mtools01:59
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rebeccaDaSkreech: um.. a few02:00
JucatoDaSkreech: I'm not really sure. but I think according to the FHS (Filesystem Heirarchy Standard, on which the Linux filesystem heirarchy is based) says that /mnt is for "temporarily mounted filesystems" that the admin mounts as needed02:00
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: configure amarok -- configure collection02:00
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DaSkreechrebecca: Any of htem CPU hogs?02:00
rebeccaDaSkreech: yeah.. artsd02:00
DaSkreechJucato: not since /media came in. /mnt is for permanent mounts02:00
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Schuenemann_kuja_: so, will this installation update newer build of jdk 6?02:01
DaSkreech rebecca: of course02:01
rebeccathe dialog is accurate.. it's chewing all my cpu when ever it attempts to run then falls horribly on it's ass02:01
Schuenemannbuilds*02:01
JucatoDaSkreech: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html02:01
DaSkreechrebecca: What is using it?02:01
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: wma isn't in w32codecs02:01
rebeccaDaSkreech: kde02:01
_kuja_Schuenemann, no, you'd have to do it manually.02:01
DaSkreechrebecca: Huh?02:01
Admiral_Chicagoi just installed it, music still won't play02:01
Schuenemannoh my,,,02:01
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: it is02:01
Schuenemannthis is a nightmare02:01
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: then this package needs to die02:01
rebeccaDaSkreech: "huh?" isnt a constructive question02:01
DaSkreechrebecca: this is some beep sound eating the CPU?02:01
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DaSkreechrebecca: Not a dedicated music application?02:02
rebeccaDaSkreech: no02:02
DaSkreech:-(02:02
Admiral_Chicagoit's frustrating, my buddy is like "sure put linux on my computer" NOTHIN works like it should02:02
DaSkreechthat only happens to me when I'm running mplay kaffiene and amarok at teh same time02:02
_kuja_Schuenemann, it'll probably be in Feisty's repos, but for now, if we want the newest things, we have to do things manually.02:02
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: how about libxine-extracodecs ?02:02
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Schuenemannok, thanks for your help02:02
Admiral_Chicagogot that02:02
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: I think that w32codecs is one vesion behind02:02
rebeccaDaSkreech: oh.. mine doesnt work altogether02:03
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rebeccaand everyone seem to have me on ignore02:03
DaSkreechrebecca: what happens if you logout and log back in?02:03
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_kuja_rebecca, it's not muted or anything silly like that is it?02:03
rebeccaDaSkreech: it still doesnt work02:03
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rebecca_kuja_: no. muting it would cause an error02:03
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: which wma are you trying to play02:03
rebeccawouldnt**02:03
Admiral_Chicagouhh, not really sure02:03
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: It could be protected which means you can't play it unless you are in Windows02:04
_kuja_rebecca, another thing to check, type groups in a terminal, to ensure you're a member of the audio group02:04
Jucatooh yeah, DRM'ed Windows Media won't play02:04
rebecca_kuja_: yup, audio is there02:04
eilkerhi to all02:04
Admiral_Chicagothat's true, but i found this guide02:05
Admiral_Chicagomight need libxine-main02:05
Admiral_Chicagomain102:05
DaSkreechrebecca: What are your machine specs?02:05
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_kuja_rebecca, what does "lsmod | grep snd" output?02:05
_kuja_!pastebin02:05
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crimsun_rebecca: I asked you a question some hours ago, and you didn't respond directly to me.02:06
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php-freakhey guys how can i get codecs for kubuntu?02:06
php-freakI can play videos, but i get no sound02:06
php-freakmy sound card is working fine02:06
php-freakjust no sound off internet videos, and etc02:06
rebeccacrimsun_: probably because i went to bed... but i did leave a message about that and contacting me via PM02:06
crimsun_rebecca: no, 30 minutes prior to that.02:06
claydoh!codecs02:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:06
php-freakwell im getting videos, just no sound02:08
crimsun_php-freak: for Flash?02:08
php-freakno just like regular videos02:08
php-freakand flash02:08
rebecca_kuja_:02:08
rebeccahttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7hSnzC42.html02:08
crimsun_php-freak: are you using Dapper or Edgy?02:08
php-freakkubuntu02:09
php-freaki sussposed it dapper02:09
rebeccacrimsun_: can you ask it again please?02:09
crimsun_rebecca: sure. Did you get Kubuntu installed to the HD?02:09
rebeccayup02:09
Admiral_Chicagoi think i got it02:09
crimsun_rebecca: then you need to re-execute the command I gave you regarding snd-via82xx.02:09
DaSkreechcrimsun_: I wouldn't mind finding out why that happens. I have it happen from time to time02:10
rebeccacrimsun_:  can you give that too me again. i was running the live cd then so it wasnt logged02:10
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crimsun_rebecca: i.e., echo options snd-via82xx dxs_support=2|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base02:10
claydohphp-freak: if you install the kubuntu-specific packages listed02:10
claydohhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-74857744ddf74499c6447a19c7e94a2fcb382e0c02:10
claydohyou should get soun02:10
crimsun_DaSkreech: your hardware is defective, and the driver has to work around it.02:10
rebeccacrimsun_: options snd-via82xx dxs_support=202:10
crimsun_rebecca: correct.02:11
DaSkreechdefective how?02:11
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crimsun_DaSkreech: the codec does not respond to 'reset' properly02:11
DaSkreechHMm ok02:11
DaSkreechsudo tee :)02:11
DaSkreechthat's a cool way to sudo echo :)02:11
crimsun_we worked around it in snd-via82xx, but it's not foolproof, since there are too many manufacturers that use duplicate codec IDs02:11
rebeccaahhhh02:12
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DaSkreechHow often does that need to be applied?02:13
crimsun_it needs to be applied whenever snd-via82xx is loaded.02:13
crimsun_the command I gave configures the module option to be used automatically.02:13
rebeccacrimsun_: soo.. how do i fix it?02:14
rebeccait's still doing the same thing02:14
crimsun_rebecca: did you unload and reload snd-via82xx?02:14
crimsun_(or reboot)02:14
matthew_Admiral_Chicago, malik__ ,darn it, I ran out of time at work...but I'll try again on Friday.02:14
matthew_oh well02:14
rebeccacrimsun_: so that change you asked me to do is persistant?02:15
DaSkreechcrimsun_: Logout/in wouldn't work?02:15
crimsun_rebecca: it persists.02:15
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crimsun_DaSkreech: no.02:15
malik__thats okie ........take care mate n have a good one02:15
matthew_malik__,  you too, have a good one.02:15
rebeccaokay. ill reboot and see02:15
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_kuja_"sudo rmmod snd_via82xx && sudo modprobe snd_via82xx" perhaps?02:16
crimsun_modprobe -r && modprobe usually suffices, but sometime the codec is "stuck".02:16
crimsun_in that case, a cold boot is required.02:16
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crimsun_not even a warm boot (reboot) will suffice.02:16
_kuja_Ouch02:16
DaSkreechis that a problem with modprobe or with the module?02:16
crimsun_it's a problem with your hardware.02:17
_kuja_Exactly what I was about to say.02:17
crimsun_as in the actual codec itself sitting on the mainboard.02:17
DaSkreechThe hardware codec?02:17
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=== DaSkreech never thought of codecs in hardware before
_kuja_If manufacturers did a good job at it, you probably wouldn't have to, I would think.02:18
DaSkreech:-)02:19
crimsun_DaSkreech: your sound hardware is comprised of a dsp and a codec.02:19
DaSkreechYeah I know. I just never think of it :)02:19
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DaSkreechrebecca: Good?02:23
rebeccacrimsun_: you're a champ :)02:23
rebeccaDaSkreech: yup02:23
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DaSkreech:-)02:24
=== DaSkreech still hates reboot solutions
crimsun_of course. I fixed it upstream; I'd hope I know what I'm talking about.02:24
_kuja_reboot? oh .. now whatever might that be :D02:24
DaSkreechTell me about it02:25
DaSkreech I came in one day and someone had rebooted my machine after near two months of uptime02:25
rebeccahehe. my faith is restored in [k] ubuntu :)02:25
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_kuja_DaSkreech, funny. I think my records about a month, because I usually end up with experimenting with some thing or another within that amount of time.02:26
DaSkreechrebecca: I'm surprised it got shook02:26
Schuenemann_kuja_: I added this line to ~/.bash_profile : export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun/jdk1.6.002:26
DaSkreechSee?? I had purposely not done anything so I wouldn't have to reboot02:26
Schuenemannwhy doesn't echo $JAVA_HOME print anything?02:26
_kuja_it doesn't?02:26
DaSkreech_kuja_: So why the urge to get java 1.6 with no clue what it has under the hood?02:26
Schuenemannno :/02:26
_kuja_So I can force myself to figure out what is under the hood at a later time?02:27
SchuenemannDaSkreech: the sun website has all the new features... check it out02:27
_kuja_I really need to brush up on Java.02:27
robomoorecan I type right into xorg.conf to change things?02:27
Schuenemann_kuja_: how is your .bash_profile ?02:27
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DaSkreechSchuenemann: Yeah I'm interested why _kuja_ went to get it and configure it without reading it02:27
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Schuenemannthe line that exports $JAVA_HOME02:27
crimsun_there's nothing terribly shocking.02:27
crimsun_Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)02:27
SchuenemannDaSkreech: well, it the latest release... he'll to do it sometime02:28
DaSkreechcrimsun_: it's pythonic as I recall02:28
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_kuja_Hmm, that's interesting, mine wouldn't print it out either :O02:29
Schuenemannno variables?02:29
Schuenemannclasspath?02:29
joel_eh02:30
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_kuja_move it to the .bashrc .....02:30
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Schuenemannit worked @ .bashrc?02:31
_kuja_indeed02:31
Schuenemann:D02:31
Red-Sox[away] I have Kubuntu on my notebook, how do I get it to recognize an external VGA display?02:32
Schuenemannworking :p02:33
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Ash-Fox!java02:33
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:33
DaSkreechRed-Sox[away] : My first guess would be in System Settings -> Monitor/display02:34
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Red-Sox[away] DaSkreech: Nope :\02:37
DaSkreechRed-Sox[away] : Restart X?02:38
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jontechey you guys... I'm setting up Kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop right now. Using the GUI setup once I create a hard drive partition, it doesn't let me make a swap partition with the free space at the end. Why?02:40
DaSkreechWhat error?02:41
RDi can sympahtise jontec, every time i see the kubuntu partitioner i have a relapse into insanity caused by the memory of trying to do anything complex with it02:41
RDor in fact easy with it :P02:41
dettoaltrimenti_in konqueror, how do you change from the 'web' type buttons to the 'file explorer' type buttons?02:41
flaccid!gstreamer02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
flaccidi need a different engine besides xine to play streaming mp3 radio with amarok. what package contains it in ubuntu?02:42
Schuenemann!x02:43
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:43
jontecflaccid: you can use gstreamer02:43
Schuenemann!kde02:43
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE02:43
jontecflaccid: I think02:43
flaccidjontec: yes i need the package, what is it called?02:43
DaSkreechdettoaltrimenti_: I would guess open it as a file explorer02:43
dettoaltrimenti_flaccid: totem maybe?02:43
flacciddettoaltrimenti_: i want the engine only02:43
flaccidah well i'll just install the extra crap anyway02:44
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DaSkreechflaccid: installed amarok-engines ?02:44
jontecwasn't there another repository that you had ot add... I remember there was for libxine-extracodecs at least... so maybe it is for gstreamer as well?02:44
flaccidDaSkreech: thats the xine engine only02:45
DaSkreechflaccid: Sooo inapprioately named?02:45
jontecflaccid: have you looked at the wiki? If that's where I saw that extra repo... you might try adding it and then searching for a gstreamer package?02:46
flaccidyeah02:46
flaccidwhich wiki, jontec02:46
jontecflaccid: I think... uhh... ubuntu02:46
jontecflaccid: might have been amaroK, though... it was a LONG time ago02:47
jontecI was looking to add mp3 support.02:47
jontecSetting the active partition in qtparted does what now (my question :D)?02:47
pacman_hey flaccid02:48
jontecOh and will the setup allow me to go ahead and create the first partition that I need and then create the swap partition after that?02:48
pacman_do you have a .flac to .mp3 converter that you recommend?02:48
DaSkreechjontec: It makes that partiion bootable02:49
DaSkreechjontec: It wont?02:49
jontecDaSkreech: okay, good. So, remove the flag from the win32 partition?02:49
flaccidhi pacman. sorry never done that02:49
DaSkreechjontec: No I think You can reuse it02:49
jontecDaSkreech: wait so... does it prevent it from being bootable for/by windows as well?02:50
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jontecGosh I wish I had done this installation when I did the other one... T_T02:50
_kuja_gah! this is odd ...02:50
DaSkreechjontec: Nope if you leave it then Grub will configure a pointer to boot into windows02:51
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_kuja_kuja@terra:~$ sudo parted /dev/sda10 print | grep 1002:52
_kuja_Disk /dev/sda10: 228GB02:52
_kuja_yet it says I only have 9 gb ...... I wonder if this is another one of those UUID problems02:52
jonathan_what is the command to use alien to convert an rpm to deb package and have it automatically install02:52
dettoaltrimenti_what do you guys think is better- ktorrent or azureus?02:53
DaSkreechktorrent :)02:53
SchuenemannI like azureus02:53
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jonathan_detto azureus my friend uses it and he says its really good02:53
RDazureus if you have 20gb of ram ;)02:53
DaSkreechI like the new web interface for it02:53
jonathan_dask02:54
dettoaltrimenti_do you think the downloads would be any faster?02:54
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jontecDaSkreech: Grub will configure the pointer when I attempt to book kubuntu? (Here's what I want to do... :D I want to have read-only access to my windows partition from linux.... and no access at all from windows... what do I set the active for?)02:54
jontecboot*02:54
jonathan_dask what is the command to use alien to convert an rpm to deb package and have it automatically install02:54
dettoaltrimenti__kuja_ what's hard about it?02:54
DaSkreechjontec: Eh?02:54
_kuja_Nothing is hard, just I can't _effectively_ use them.02:54
DaSkreechjontec: You don't want Windows?02:54
DaSkreechjonathan_: try man alien02:55
_kuja_When your upload speed is ~2kbs it makes it hard to get any speed out of a torrent02:55
jonathan_i am and figuredd it out now thanks dude02:55
DaSkreechjonathan_: No problem02:55
dettoaltrimenti_oh, gotcha. yeah02:55
jonathan_dask that is whhhat im telling him he needs to maake ssssure it doesnt shrink the win partition but completely erases it02:55
Schuenemann!alien02:55
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)02:55
jontecDaSkreech: I do want windows sorry... I want no access to my linux partition from windows :D... and read-only access to the windows partition from inside linux.02:56
jonathan_jonnntec on windows download vmware server02:56
jontec:D Don't want to remove windows. That'd be bad.02:56
jonathan_run it as a vrtualll machine02:56
DaSkreechjontec: Don't worry windows takes care of that by default02:56
jonathan_that is the way i have it right now02:56
jontecDaSkreech: what do you mean?02:56
jonathan_daask cant he run it from windows as a virtual machine02:57
jontecjonathan: I've run vmware before... I want a dedicated system to linux :D02:57
DaSkreechWindows doesn't recogniize anything outside of FAT and NTFS02:57
jonathan_ahhhh  ok02:57
DaSkreechSo you wont be able to see Linux stuff02:57
RDisnt there an ext driver for windows02:57
RD?02:57
_kuja_Yes02:57
jontecDaSkreech: okay, good. ^_^ so where does my active flag go?02:57
LjL!ext3 | RD02:57
ubotuRD: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org02:57
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DaSkreech and they won't release teh specs for NTFS ( iassume that's what you have WIndows installed on) so LInux is too chicken to write into it02:57
RDyus i know LjL, but its one way to share files02:58
DaSkreechjontec: I'd say leave it as is02:58
RDif you want to read NTFS in linux you can always use NTFS/captive02:58
jontecDaSkreech: which was active flag on windows?02:58
RDit nabs the windows install NTFS driver, works pretty well :)02:58
DaSkreechjontec: yes02:58
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Schuenemann!nabs02:58
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nabs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
LjLRD: ... ? i'm not getting you, you asked whether there was an ext3 (well, you said "ext", i suppose that was what you meant) driver for Windows, and i pointed you to one02:58
jontecDaSkreech: gracias. okay. let's see what I get from this.02:58
jonathan_i honestly prefer using a virtual machine that way u wont have anything to wry aout but that is just me02:58
DaSkreechRD: The point is that by default windows does what he wants02:59
RDah sorry LjL02:59
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corporateHi, does anybody here have an experience with nvtv02:59
jonathan_i honestly dont know what i did i must have installed a package on here yesterday but for some reason i wasnt able to find the dvd burner or my flash drive03:01
jonathan_also i couldnt login into sudo -s03:01
jonathan_somehhow something happened to my root accuont too03:02
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jonathan_lost 2 important files but thats ok03:02
_kuja_login in the backup mode, fix it from there ...03:03
jonathan_now im runniing kbuntu as a virtual machine03:03
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jonathan_too late kuja03:03
_kuja_ah03:03
jonathan_installed xp and vmware server and i have it up and running now as a virutal machine03:03
jonathan_i have to say i realllly love virutall maaaachinees03:03
_kuja_Woulnd't have taken long to fix, though it'd be interesting to hear how it got broken03:03
jonathan_lol true03:03
jonathan_ill see if i can do it aagain  on here03:04
jonathan_lol03:04
DaSkreechjonathan_: You are going to love 2.6.2003:04
_kuja_lol03:04
jonathan_?03:04
jonathan_y dask03:04
RDthe KVM think DaSkreech?03:04
jonathan_im lost03:04
DaSkreechRD: Eh?03:04
RDits the name of the new virtualisation system03:04
jonathan_ohhhhh03:04
RDKVM03:04
DaSkreechjonathan_: It has hardware virtualisation built in03:05
jonathan_i also still have to figure out how to use xen on suse03:05
DaSkreechwhat does KVM stand for?03:05
jonathan_nice03:05
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RDcant remember03:05
jonathan_lol03:05
RDthey shouldhave picked a different name though03:05
DaSkreech:-)03:05
DaSkreechYah03:05
ChetwinCan anyone help me with icons???03:05
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ChetwinOr should I be in a diff channel for icons03:05
DaSkreechRD: What does it refer to in this case?03:05
jonathan_once i learn c programming  next semester would any of u be interested in helping me develop stuff for kbuntu03:05
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RDDaSkreech its kernel-based virtual machine03:06
DaSkreechAhhhh03:06
joshyhow can i change "user rights" on an ntfs partition with linux03:06
DaSkreechRD: Which is ! Xen?03:06
corporateHi, does anybody here have an experience with nvtv03:06
jonathan_lol03:06
Chetwin!icons03:06
ubotuWant to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)03:06
RDno, its something new going into the main line03:06
jonathan_once i learn c programming  next semester would any of u be interested in helping me develop stuff for kbuntu03:06
dettoaltrimenti_what is the name of the program that is the GUI for kubuntu03:06
RDKDE03:07
jonathan_KDE03:07
dettoaltrimenti_if I was in terminal and wanted to run KDE, what would I type in the terminal03:07
DaSkreechKDE03:07
ChetwinCan anyone help me out with icons?03:07
DaSkreechstartx03:07
joshyonce again: how can i change "user rights" on an ntfs partition with linux03:07
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jonathan_alot of the coding for linux is done in c am i correct03:07
DaSkreechChetwin: Maybe you should ask what you want to know03:07
jontechey... so I've written the changes to disk, but there are 2GB left on my machine that I want to use for swap (1GB)... it's not letting me write to it03:07
DaSkreech!anyone03:07
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:07
RDjoshy you probably cant very easily, however id search for ntfs captive as a place to start03:08
DaSkreechjonathan_: For the kernel in KDE it's all C++03:08
DaSkreechjoshy: Use Windows03:08
dettoaltrimenti_can I only run KDE in one session at a time?03:08
joshyDaSkreech: thx03:08
jonathan_im not really interested in kernel development03:08
DaSkreechjoshy: YOu can't make them stick in linux unless you use a UID in fstab03:08
corporateHi, I want some help with setting up nvtv :(03:08
jonathan_im talking bout aplication development03:08
jonathan_dask03:08
DaSkreechjoshy: you want them permanent?03:08
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RDhttp://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ :: read-write driver for ntfs can set permissions IIRC03:09
ChetwinIf I want to creat a "launch" button like the start button in XP, how can I get the icon to be long horizontally and short vertically.  When I try drawing it that way, the panel shrinks it03:09
DaSkreechdettoaltrimenti_: No03:09
Ash-Fox!gnash03:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
DaSkreechdettoaltrimenti_: You can run two X servers and run two sessions with whatever you want on both03:09
Ash-FoxHm, strange that free flash plugin that supports flash 7 stuf isn't in the repositories03:09
dettoaltrimenti_I get this error: server is already active for display 003:09
DaSkreechChetwin: Hmm not sure have you asked in #kde ?03:09
jonathan_ash add more repositories and it will add more to the list of available apps03:09
LjLAsh-Fox: i have it there. not sure why the bot doesn't have it03:09
joshyDaSkreech: i'm trying to change to linux03:10
DaSkreechdettoaltrimenti_: try it with display 103:10
LjLAsh-Fox: oh nevermind, it's only there in edgy-backports03:10
DaSkreechjoshy: Right give us the bigger problem03:10
jonathan_ljl all she has to do is add more repositories in the adept manager03:10
DaSkreechjoshy: We may be able to help you with that03:10
DaSkreechNot me though I'm stepping out03:10
RDjoshy: you an set the permissions in fstab that are aplied to drives when they are mounted... what permissions are you trying to set?03:10
LjLjonathan_, thank you, but i was merely wondering why Ubotu didn't list that package.03:10
Ash-Foxjonathan_, I do believe I have most of the repositories for ubuntu in my sources.list03:10
jonathan_interesting03:11
Ash-Fox!backports03:11
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports03:11
dettoaltrimenti_daskreech: it doesn't work in display 1, I also tried with display 403:11
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_kuja_haha, irony, the use of the word "if"03:11
joshyRD: normally the ntfs usage works fine, but over samba it makes troubles03:11
LjL_kuja_: why? in most cases, they are *not* built03:12
Ash-FoxLjL, I'm just going to install it from the .deb file :)03:12
LjLAsh-Fox: what's wrong with backports?03:12
_kuja_"What's wrong with backports": The fact that 90% of the time they don't exist?03:12
RDhttp://electron.mit.edu/~gsteele/linuxfaq/ joshy03:12
LjL_kuja_: well in this case they do03:12
RDthe DOS drive section03:12
RDits the same principle03:12
Ash-FoxLjL, wouldn't a apt-get upgrade break my system with the backports in my sources.list ?03:13
RDi believe :)03:13
RDyou may need to set up a new group called ntfs-users for this03:13
LjLAsh-Fox: just don't run an apt-get upgrade if you're worried03:13
LjLAsh-Fox: add backports, "sudo apt-get update", install gnash, and then feel free to comment backports out again03:13
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joshyRD: on this side i don't get the right information03:15
_kuja_I have a funny feeling that playing in this virtual machine which happens to be setting my system clock is going to end up moving my system clock back in time, after having recieved email, making the timestamp "invalid" such that I my emails pull a dissappearing act again ....03:15
Ash-FoxLjL, it's apparently not in backports03:16
Ash-FoxOh blah, I keep doing dapper, stupid stupid fox03:16
LjL  Candidate: 0.7.2-1~edgy1  Version table: 0.7.2-1~edgy1 0     500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages03:16
LjLah, *dapper*03:16
RDjoshy the idea i think will be to set the correct permissions in /etc/fstab for yor system so that the samba user has full read access, right?03:17
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ktnuhola03:20
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Schuenemann!es | k-tnu03:21
ubotuk-tnu: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:21
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PhelanorHiya everyone03:22
jerphow do I add an item to the menu list?03:22
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jerpnevermind....03:23
joshyRD: I dont't exactly know what you mean; i'm an linux n00b; normally i have full access to the ntfs partition; but with samba i can't get an read permission to this partition (to 'normal' file systems it's np )03:23
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malik__can any1 tell how to chk the kernel version?03:24
RDuname -a03:24
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RDnp joshy i think that whats happening is that the ntfs drive is getting permissions for users but not for samba, which runs under its own user and group03:25
RDso, you just need to poke it a little to give samba access to the drive by default03:25
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matthew_malik__, my default kernel is 2.6.17-10-generic...I want to use the 2.6.* kernel that's optimised for 686...but I can only find the 2.4.* kernel...03:25
_kuja_woo, I do believe I just crashed ubuiquity-kde03:25
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PhelanorI'm having an installation problem.  Are there known problems with ATI cards?03:26
the_hammerhey is there no other settings then 800 x 600?03:26
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joshyRD: i'm n00b so .....03:26
the_hammeri got a 21 inch monitor for pete sake and my fonts and crap is so big a blinde person could see03:27
malik__Linux malik-desktop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux................. i get this msg after the last update.........can any1 tell if its correct version?03:27
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robomooreis it possible to become root within programs?03:27
RDunfortunatly im not sitting at a linux box right now so i cant check anything for you joshy :/03:27
fnord__!pastebin03:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:27
robomoorelike kate?03:27
malik__matthew: far as i can tell that is the latest03:27
_kuja_kdesu kate?03:28
robomoorewithout reopening the program03:28
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_kuja_AFAIK, no.03:28
malik__matthew: try uname -a command n see if it shows 686 in the line which comes out after executing that command03:28
TehKewl1is dapper going to get gtk 2.10 in it's repository?03:28
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the_hammeris possible to get better display other then 800 x 600 or do i gotta yet again scrap a distro and install another?03:29
Red-SoxGrrr....03:29
washbearhi - any OOo 2.1 .deb for (K)Ubuntu yet?03:29
robomoorethe_hammer: it's your drivers03:29
Red-Soxkubuntu freezes here every startup http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg1834el6.jpg03:29
Phelanorred: I have the same problem03:29
RDjoshy: theres a good guide to fstab here (http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/71273-howto-mounting-windows-partitions-linux-editing-fstab-file.html) and you can see what user samba uses by checking the /etc/users file (read it with cat /etc/users | less on the command line)03:30
fnord__can i get some help find out whats slowing my computer down?im running  256mg ram and a 1.5 gig intel celeronM and alll my apps keep slowing to a halt03:30
robomooreRed-Sox: try safemode03:30
PhelanorWhat video card do you have?03:30
Phelanorrobo: Tried that, same issue03:30
fnord__like a shel comand to list running pros and then ill postbin it03:30
robomoorereally, Phelanor, interesting.03:30
Phelanori tried to install this past summer, same problem I think it was because of my ATI card03:30
Red-Soxrobomoore: good point03:30
PhelanorI saw a fix somewhere on the internet03:31
PhelanorBut I lost it.03:31
the_hammerradeon x550 and no linux drivers for it03:31
Phelanor: (03:31
the_hammerlinux drivers aint available untill the 850 series03:31
Admiral_Chicagoanyone know how to get rid of that annoying blue globe in the FX icon for the panel03:31
matthew_malik__, thanks so much, when I was using dapper, I had to install the new 686 kernel, cause the 386 kernel was installed by default03:31
robomooreI would try it Red-Sox, but that won't just fix your problem03:31
PhelanorI had to somehow start with a different settings for xorg03:31
BluesKajthe radeon open source fglrx drivers will work03:31
Admiral_Chicagothere was a work around on !firefox (i know i wrote part of it) but i can't find in03:31
the_hammerare ya sure?03:31
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BluesKajI'm using them on my xpress20003:32
the_hammerok can ya help me cuz im not sure what im doing03:32
robomooreRed-Sox: try finding out why it's freezing, like if there's an error in the command structure03:32
robomoorethe_hammer: one sec03:32
the_hammerk03:32
robomoore!radeon x550 the_hammer03:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radeon x550 the_hammer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:33
robomoorehmm03:33
robomooreno03:33
robomoore!radeon x55003:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radeon x550 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:33
robomoore...03:33
malik__matthew: same with me but this new one came with automatic update n edgy so im guessing this is newer coz when i checked with adept it showed 686 but said that has been oboleted by generic...........what ever that means...........i guess i have to ask jucato03:33
fnord__can i get some help find out whats slowing my computer down?im running  256mg ram and a 1.5 gig intel celeronM and alll my apps keep slowing to a halt.or do i just ot have enuf ram?03:33
the_hammerx550 drivers are not available ive had linux over 6months and never did find drivers for it03:33
the_hammerthey dont come available till 850series03:33
malik__obsoleted*03:33
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matthew_fnord__, I would go for at least 512...I'm using that and it's maxed out.03:34
the_hammerive red forums and card makers sites and everything03:34
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BluesKajthe_hammer,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a03:34
robomooredanke BluesKaj03:34
matthew_malik__, yeah, I saw that it had been obsoleted as well, but I wasn't sure...03:34
Admiral_Chicagogah03:34
malik__what do u think Admiral?03:35
PhelanorI'm having some problems installing Ubuntu, I think it is because of my ATI card, does anyone have a workaround?03:35
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fnord__is there a way i could suplement for my lack of ram?like make my swap drive03:35
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PhelanorI get the status bar with some green and blue mess under it03:35
fnord__bigger03:35
PhelanorThere used to be a way to get around it reconfguring xorg03:36
Phelanorbefore installation03:36
Phelanorbut i cant seem to find the solution again03:36
matthew_fnord__, well, you're swap can only be 2 gigs...which is what I have, but you can make multiple swap partitions...03:36
matthew_*your03:36
GWild_Gen2Excuse me (I just installed Kubuntu) -> is there no 'wheel' group in kubuntu?03:36
fnord__matthew_: would that e benificial?03:36
Adlaifor anyone having problems with an ati radeon card, you need the following things in place: 1) xorg.conf has to have Driver "fglrx" in the device section you're using, 2) you need the kernel module fglrx installed, and then to use modprobe fglrx, 3) restart X03:37
GWild_Gen2I don't seem to be able to 'su' from the command prompt03:37
matthew_fnord__, I doubt it.03:37
LjLGWild_Gen2: no... there is an 'admin' group though03:37
LjLUbotu, tell GWild_Gen2 about root | GWild_Gen2, see the private message from Ubotu03:37
matthew_fnord__, how big is your swap?03:37
Phelanoradlai: how would I go about doing that on install?03:37
BluesKajPhelanor ,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a03:37
LjLGWild_Gen2: you can't use 'su', use 'sudo <command>' (or 'sudo -i' if you want a persistent root login)03:37
malik__Admiral_Chicago: Linux malik-desktop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux................. i get this msg after the last update.........plz can you tell if its correct version?03:37
Adlaiyou'd need to do everything from the command prompt03:37
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the_hammercool thanks03:37
Adlaiwhat is your exact problem03:37
LjLGWild_Gen2: users that are members of 'admin' can do that03:37
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GWild_Gen2LjL: thank you,03:38
Admiral_Chicago...paste the whole thing please03:38
the_hammerill try log in/out and see if it changes03:38
Adlaiforgive me if I don't scroll up03:38
PhelanorBlues: Thanks for the tip, but I would have to use the alternate cd?03:38
Admiral_Chicago!paste | malik__03:38
ubotumalik__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:38
fnord__whats getty??03:38
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fnord__!getty03:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about getty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:38
AdlaiPhelanor, I know on my install it just took a really long time to boot up03:38
AdlaiI'm only very recently a kubuntu user, I'm used to gentoo03:39
joshyRD: thx03:39
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PhelanorDid you get that mess of green and blue on the bottom of the bar?03:39
AdlaiI think there should be a safe mode or something, or you can possibly specify the driver on boot03:39
Adlaiyes I did03:39
RDdid it help joshy? sorry im not being too useful today :)03:39
Adlaiif you set it to "vesa" you should be able to get kubuntu on your system at least03:39
BluesKajgentoo eh,...difficult install03:39
BluesKaj?03:40
jontecis there another partitioner that I can use other than qtparted03:40
Adlaiand then deal with the drivers later03:40
PhelanorSafe mode isnt happening03:40
Phelanoras in same problem03:40
matthew_jontec, gparted03:40
RDnah its by the numbers BluesKaj the problem is keeping it running without breakage03:40
matthew_jontec, you can also download it as a liveCD03:40
AdlaiBluesKaj, it takes significant research, but is definitely worth it in terms of understanding your system03:40
BluesKajjontec,, GParted Live CD partitioner03:40
Adlaiit was the first install I ever did and the install itself taught me a great deal about linux in general03:40
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Adlaibut I should probably stop advertising gentoo in #kubuntu03:40
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darkocan anyone help me instal kdetv?03:41
darkoinstall03:41
BluesKajAdlai, so why the switch ?03:41
matthew_jontec, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=17382803:41
jontecmatthew_: I can't download it :D I am on dial-up and qtparted is being an idiot... it's not letting me write to a partition after I make one AND commit changes03:41
AdlaiI'm just testing it out on my laptop, to see what it's like03:41
jontecmatthew_: I've even tried restarting my computer03:41
matthew_jontec, oooh, dial up...I had that for about 10 years...made me suicidal...03:41
halter73darko, your trying to install kdetv?03:41
Adlaialso to try out kde; I've done e17 and am currently running gnome03:41
matthew_jontec, don't know what to try now...03:41
darkoyes03:41
halter73what is your problem03:41
_kuja_adlai, just how long did it take to set gentoo up?  I've heard estimates all over the wall.03:41
matthew_jontec, where do you live?03:41
darkobut  i cannot find it in adept03:42
Adlaidepends what you're setting up for03:42
halter73just a sec03:42
matthew_jontec, if you live in the US...I might send it to you...03:42
jontecmatthew_: Virginia, USA...03:42
Adlaithese questions are probably better directed at #gentoo though03:42
darkoi had it last time03:42
matthew_jontec, want a copy?03:42
_kuja_full blown desktop03:42
jontecmatthew_: I have to get this laptop up tonight. :D03:42
Adlaiif you want to ask me specifically, pm me03:42
jonteclol.03:42
matthew_jontec, oh03:42
matthew_jontec, that sucks...03:42
halter73what is wrong with tvtime03:42
_kuja_anotehr person living in t3h Virginia? Amazing.03:42
fnord__anyone know what getty is i have 6 proces named getty running right now and my system wont let me kill them03:42
darkoi cannot instal kdetv i cannot see it in adept manager03:43
LjLfnord__: they're the processes for your virtual terminals (the consoles)03:43
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darkomaybe i have to add some repositories03:43
darko?03:43
halter73have you tried tv time03:43
darkono03:43
jontecmatthew_: I'm installing gparted... right now03:43
halter73I use it and like it03:43
LjLfnord__: if you press ctrl+alt+f1, you'll see a console login. that's getty. if you do alt+f2, you see another, etc... if you finally do alt+f7, you're back to your X server03:43
darkobut kdetv is working03:43
halter73I've tried both and tvtime has all the features i need without bloat03:44
matthew_jontec, oh...how're you doing that?03:44
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jontecmatthew_:I'm surprised it's letting me install anything on livecd?03:44
darkohow can i install it03:44
halter73wait i thought you were having problems03:44
fnord__ cool03:44
darkobut like i missed some repositorie03:44
darko?03:44
robomooreubotu: nvidia > me03:44
darkomaybe03:44
darkoi am new to linux03:44
matthew_jontec, no, I mean, you can download it as  a standalone...just didn't know how you got it.03:44
darkoso everythimg is a problem for now :D03:45
LjLfnord__: and you can kill them (if you're root), they just get respawned automatically03:45
jontecmatthew_: I just opened adept... lol.03:45
matthew_jontec, lol, nice03:45
halter73try tvtime while i find a repository from kdetv03:45
jontecmatthew_: I am very surprised.03:45
matthew_jontec, ever tried synaptic?03:45
darkook03:45
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halter73it should be in adept and work right after install w/o much setup03:45
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matthew_jontec, it's a package manager like adept, but you can't destroy your system. It's very helpful.03:45
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SilverDrakehey... I really need some help, if anyone wants to...03:46
homberohey03:46
ReilithionXtreme screen problems.03:46
darkoi have no tv in adept03:46
AdlaiSilverDrake, just ask, if someone knows, they'll answer03:46
darkono kdetv03:46
fnord__whats a good p2p app that dosent take up so much memory fryou're ostwire03:46
darkono tvtime :(03:46
fnord__amule dosent work for me03:46
matthew_!anyone | SilverDrake03:46
ubotuSilverDrake: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:46
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jontecjontec: I did... when I was using xubuntu (xubuntu never configured correctly in vmware).... but I've always used adept on here... I like it very much. :D either that or apt-get istelf03:46
darkoi't seems i need a repositorie i had03:46
halter73hmm i'll tell u the repository i got it from03:46
PhelanorIs there a Kubuntu alternate text install CD?03:46
ReilithionI think SilverDrake is having some kind of refresh rate problem03:46
jonteclol.. I messaged myself03:46
halter73have you uncommented all your repositories already on the list?03:47
darkoyes03:47
jontecthis is being quite speedy considering it's 5MB03:47
darkoeven inserted some extra03:47
matthew_jontec, I either use synaptic if I don't know the name of the program, or apt-get install if I do...lol03:47
Adlaiubotu, people, in general, tend to have a problem asserting themselves, especially in a new place03:47
SilverDrakeokay... I did a restart, and when I got back to the computer, I noticed the screen was only taking up about 90% of my monitor and had vertical lines (scrapes?) on it03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about people, in general, tend to have a problem asserting themselves, especially in a new place - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
AdlaiI guess03:47
Adlaiand I apparently don't know the bot's name03:47
Adlaid'oh03:47
halter73hmm because kdetv is showing up under my adept and I am not using many extra repos03:48
matthew_Adlai, ubotu is a bot03:48
jontecmatthew_: oh, lol. have you ever used adept?03:48
AdlaiI can see that now...03:48
darkoi know03:48
darkoi had it last time03:48
jontecwomen!03:48
jontecwait... no03:48
halter73are u using edgy03:48
jontec!women03:48
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.03:48
SilverDrakewhen I went to settings and tried to see if something changed and if I could fix it, but when I did some tweaking and refreshing, I ended up with a display of about 300x400 pixels03:48
matthew_jontec, yeah...I ended up removing all essential packages. What a downer!03:48
matthew_jontec, complete reinstall03:48
darkoyes03:48
darkoedgy03:48
jontecnope... !females03:48
jontec!females03:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about females - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:49
halter73and have u updated your package list03:49
halter73updated header03:49
darkoyes03:49
jontec^^^ there it is. :D03:49
darkocouple of times03:49
homberocan somone tell me how to get automake 1.6?03:49
darkowait a sec03:49
SilverDrakeI turned the computer off and unplugged the monitor for a while, but the "scrapes" are still there03:49
halter73hmm i'll send you my repo list if you want03:49
RDhombero you can install automaken and get all versions you need at once03:49
SilverDrakedid I destroy my monitor?03:49
RD!automaken03:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automaken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:49
darkoill tell ya wait a sec03:49
jontecmatthew_: wow... how'd you manage to do that?03:50
darkoit's updating now something03:50
halter73ok03:50
homberoim very new to linux03:50
SilverDrakethat, and my window settings are all going screwy...03:50
homberoso i dont know exactrly what you mean03:50
darkothanks sanyway haltr03:50
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darkohalter03:50
darko:D03:50
jontecthe total installation for gparted is 32MB... I wonder where the live CD's gonna put it?03:50
halter73all you should do any way is run fetch updates from adept03:50
halter73or apt-get --update03:50
ReilithionHow to reconfigure X and fix refresh rates?03:51
halter73i'll send you my package list if u want03:51
RDhombero if you want to build software the common dev tools you want are listed here: http://revis.co.uk/site/?q=node/6403:51
matthew_jontec,  I noticed that I needed this lib, so I tried to install it...it needed some other lib, so I tried to install that...I figured I was screwed when I saw "Removing kubuntu-desktop" and "Removing Konqueror"03:51
darkomaybe one repository was unsaved03:51
matthew_lol03:51
darkofrom default's one03:51
halter73ok just a sec i'll send it03:51
RDyou can install them with adept (start/system/adept)03:51
matthew_jontec, liveCD's load active programs into RAM03:51
homberookay thank you RD03:51
RDnp :)03:51
darkoit's probably it03:51
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darkobiceause updating is massive :D03:52
jontecmatthew_: wow. and hehe about that last thing.... I've got 1GB of ram... somethin' ain't gonna work. :D03:52
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malik__can any one help with detecting the kernel?...............i installed updates which came out today n i want to know if the new kernel got installed correctly because there is only one entry on the boot screen...................any help will be greatly appreciated03:52
jontecI've gotta go practice my clarinet... I'll be back soon03:52
RDmalik__ try uname -a03:52
fnord__whatsa god alternative to frostwire or amule?03:53
ReilithionIs it still dpkg-reconfigure xorg?03:53
SilverDrakedid anyone hear me?  if so, I didn't notice a reply... ~.~03:53
halter73darko did you recieve a request to download a file03:53
darkono03:53
darkoor i didnt see it03:53
darkotell me where to look :D03:53
RDSilverDrake its very hard to kill hardware with linux :) does the problem stay when you restart into windows?03:53
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Erich-KWhere is the system log stored?03:54
homberowhen i try to do apt-get --update it says --update isnt understood03:54
halter73actually just go to halter73.no-ip.org/sources.list03:54
malik__RD: i tried that n it showed only one line for the kernel entry03:54
SilverDrakewindows?03:54
halter73u should be able to see it03:54
SilverDrakeI don't have windows... that OS sucks03:54
darkothan i didnt saw it :D03:54
RDmalik__ it tells you what version you are currently running03:54
halter73the top stuff is extra03:54
ReilithionRD: SilverDrake hasn't had winblows on her machine in ages.03:54
halter73ya i think the send file thing failed03:54
RDoh, sorry :) assumption makes me look like an idiot ;)03:54
RDmore like :P03:54
SilverDrakeif ever...03:54
darkonever mind halter thanks for help03:55
homberoapt-get --update is not working03:55
darkoit's downloading03:55
darkoi think it is probably it03:55
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darkobut thank you anyway very much03:55
halter73the stuff at the top is extra03:55
halter73kk03:55
ReilithionRD: do you know how to reconfigure X?  I think SilverDrake's problem is an incorrect refresh rate.03:55
halter73would a .deb file work for you03:56
halter73??03:56
malik__RD: Linux malik-desktop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux......................is this the latest for edgy?03:56
matthew_hombrero, try apt-get update03:56
RDcan you get to a command line SilverDrake? you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly to fix it03:56
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SilverDrakeI think I might've fixed it on my own...03:56
RDim afriad i dont know malik__ i have a different type of machine to you :( (ppc)03:56
ReilithionWhat happen, SilverDrake?03:56
RDgreat :)03:57
compilerwriterHello all.03:57
compilerwriterback from my reinstall.03:57
homberohey03:57
homberothat worked thanks matthew03:57
homberoproblem is i see this when i try to update03:57
hombero GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA03:57
SilverDrakeI had display settings up03:57
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SilverDrakeI tried turning it to the resolution I had before03:57
matthew_hombero, I had that trouble...but I ended up just commenting out the offending lines in my sources.lst03:58
compilerwriterI had this nifty little thing set up so that whenever I clicked my left mouse button on the desktop the kmenu came up.  I can't remember how I did that however. Anyone know?03:58
homberohmm ok ty03:58
homberoerr how do i get to the source list?03:58
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halter73"etc/apt/sources.list"03:58
homberothank you03:58
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halter73you can also edit it through adept03:59
matthew_hombero, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.lst03:59
halter73make sure you use .list not lst04:00
homberothanks guys,.. just turned my back on windows so everything is confusing04:00
halter73Linux isn't that difficult once you get used to it04:00
halter73of course there will always be challenges04:01
hombero=] 04:01
Admiral_Chicagokdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list from run command04:01
BluesKajwell, don't leave it altogether til yer sure , halter7304:01
homberoim doing a "full upgrade"04:01
halter73???04:01
BluesKaj<-- been slowly migrating to linux over the last 5 mos04:02
matthew_halter73, thanks, my bad04:02
halter73kk04:02
halter73typing error thats all04:02
matthew_took me about a year to make the switch to linux...my dial up was holding me back...04:02
matthew_halter73, nah, I thought it was .lst, not .list04:02
matthew_bleagh, need some sleep04:02
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halter73i know, i tried using linux on a comp w/o internet04:02
halter73it is about impossible with the need to install libraries and such04:03
matthew_halter73, seriously!04:03
halter73yes i copied all the source files for the software and libraries i needed to a cd and ran ./configure && make && make install04:04
halter73it was frustrating to say the least04:04
halter73b/c most of the time there was a library i didn't know i needed and such04:04
RDcomputers with no internet are like parties with no girls ;o04:04
homberoso true04:05
halter73so what are you trying to do hombero04:05
halter73???04:05
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_kuja_Would that make a computer with dialup like a party with a bunch of girls that nobody wants to be associated with?04:06
homberotrying to get kdevelop to work, just trying to make a simple hello world program in C and then going to do some allegro stuff04:06
RDif all you want is hello world vim is pretty capable ;) bit less memory hungry than kdevelop too04:06
halter73i use kdevelope a little04:06
halter73i am a bit of a novice when it comes to that myself, but maybe i can help04:07
halter73at least it is working for me04:07
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matthew_is there a command that I can use to find out what Graphics card I have? Kcontrol won't load admin, and I can't get into my PC right now.04:07
matthew_I tried lsagp, but no luck04:08
halter73any specific problem04:08
intelikeymatthew_ lshw04:08
GWild_Kubujust did my first install of kubuntu - it's seems very nice04:08
RadiantFirelspci should show it04:08
intelikeyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36936/plain/04:08
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halter73use kinfocenter under the system menu, matthew04:08
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homberoyeah im hoping this "full upgrade" will get the libs and what not i need04:09
matthew_intelikey, thanks, it worked.04:09
intelikeywelcome04:10
halter73do u have kdevelop running, hombero04:10
halter73???04:10
homberoyes04:10
homberobut it cant compile04:10
Erich-KShould I update to the 2.6.15-27-386 kernel?04:10
halter73if you do and you can't compile it is probably because you are missing the standard libraries04:10
malik__!pastebin04:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:10
halter73are u using c or c++04:11
compilerwriterI somehow got things set up so the the kmenu showed up when I left clicked the desktop.  Can anyone tell me how I did it so I can repeat the procedure?04:11
Alter-Egoadept won't start, complains about another instance running which there does not appear to be.  i assume it has a locked file04:11
Alter-Egoi know there is a way to fix this, but i forgot04:11
homberowell the book I have about the allegro graphics library uses C, but from my understanding I can program using c++ and use the library even though it was written in C04:11
intelikeyboot time help ???     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36936/plain/04:11
halter73ya, u should be able to04:12
Jucato!adept crash fix | Alter-Ego04:12
ubotuAlter-Ego: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:12
_kuja_hombero: you have install build-essential, right?04:12
halter73now are you able to do a simple hello world program using cout04:12
homberoim really not too sure k, im a real newbie to kubuntu or linux in general04:12
homberoyes04:12
jonathan_dont feel bad hombero i am too04:12
Jucatocompilerwriter: right-click on the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Behavior options -> Left button, set it to No action04:12
halter73ok so you have the standard libs04:12
homberowait wait04:13
halter73do you have the allegro-dev files04:13
homberono, i cant compile a simple program04:13
homberonot yet04:13
halter73ok then you need the standard libs04:13
malik__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36937/.......................can any one plz look at this n tell me how to enable plf repo?...................it says that its enabled in adept but with apt-get i get this error04:13
Jucatohombero: have you installed "build-essential"?04:13
homberono i dont think so04:14
Jucatomalik__: the PLF repositories might be down04:14
Jucatohombero: you need to install that04:14
halter73yes u NEED to install that to compile a simple program04:14
compilerwriterThank you jucato04:14
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halter73thanks Jucato, i forgot the package name, i did it a while ago04:15
Jucatoactually, you need to install that to be able to compile anything at all04:15
Jucato:)04:15
malik__JUcato: i installed todays kernel udate but there is still only one entry on the bootscreen...........is it an error or it didnt install properly?04:15
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homberookay guys how do i install build-essential >< with adept?04:15
Jucatomalik__: no, it's not an error. it seems it really upgraded the kernel and didn't install a new one.04:16
Jucatomalik__: I hope you are not using the NVIDIA beta drivers, though04:16
Jucatohombero: search for "build-essential" in Adept04:16
Erich-KShould I update to the 2.6.15-27-386 kernel?04:16
php-freak!winamp04:16
ubotuwinamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.04:16
halter73ya, i forgot that did not only install libc but gcc and g++04:16
compilerwriterCool I have my Applications back on my index finger where I liked them.04:17
halter73are you able to find it hombero04:17
malik__Jucato: no im not usin any nvidia drivers..............just the ones which came with kubuntu....................i dont play games...........i just use it for watching dvds n mp3 n surfing the net04:17
aseigough. beep or xmms? bleh04:17
homberoyes and it says installed04:17
BluesKajKMplayer04:17
compilerwriterI now have sound back too.04:17
Jucatomalik__: ok. then you're safe :)04:17
aseigoamarok, juk ... both are so much better imho04:17
Jucatomoin aseigo! :)04:17
halter73already?04:17
compilerwriterThis reinstall has been an unqualified succes.04:17
aseigoJucato: moin04:17
halter73or did u just install it04:17
BluesKajyup amarok is VG04:18
compilerwriternow if only I could spell.04:18
homberokdevelop is complaining about not having automake 1.604:18
homberono it already was installed04:18
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halter73do you have automake04:18
Jucatohombero: is automake (ew....?) already installed?04:18
halter73search adept for atomake1.6 it will tell you04:18
homberoyeah i have 1.204:18
Jucatoyou also need autoconf, afaik04:18
php-freak!beep-media-player04:18
php-freak!xmms04:18
ubotubeep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 856 kB, installed size 3612 kB04:18
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs04:18
Jucatohombero: install 1.904:19
homberoand i tried on adept to search automake1.6 but its no there04:19
Jucatoer.. unless you are on Dapper04:19
homberoi have 1.9 installed too04:19
halter73i mean 1.904:19
Jucatohombero: you have 2 versions installed?04:19
halter73mine works with 1.904:19
homberoyes04:19
hombero1.4 and 1.904:19
halter73y do you need 1.4?04:19
homberoi dont know04:19
Jucatohombero: remove the older one (1.4)04:19
homberook let me try that04:20
Jucatothen also install autoconf (you'll need it)04:20
aseigoyeah, best to only have one version of automake around unless you really, really need both04:20
Jucatoanyway, those 2 are used to compile KDE apps.. for simple C++ programs, you don't need them04:20
compilerwriterIs there a BOINC for kde or do I have to use the debian version?04:20
compilerwriter!boinc04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about boinc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
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homberoawesome.. its working now, thanks!04:21
homberoits spewing out a lot of output and stuff and making it a long compile is that a one time thing or just how kdevelop works?04:21
intelikeyanyone ?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36936/plain/04:21
Jucatohombero: that's how compiling in Linux works, afaik04:22
homberowhat is afaik?04:22
halter73cool gg hombero04:22
halter73gg Jucato04:22
halter73compilerwriter: http://einstein.astro.gla.ac.uk/download/boinc/dl/boinc_5.4.11_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh04:22
halter73save that to your desktop or whatever and run sudo ./boinc_5.4.11_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh04:23
Jucatointelikey: PLF repos must be down04:23
homberome, halter?04:23
halter73computerwriter04:23
halter73if you have any other problems just tell me04:23
Jucato!boinc-client | compilerwriter04:24
ubotuboinc-client: core client for the BOINC distributed computing infrastructure. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.4.11-1 (edgy), package size 298 kB, installed size 804 kB04:24
halter73compilerwriter04:24
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halter73where did you find this ubotu04:24
Jucatocompilerwriter: most of the boinc related packages start with "boinc-". "try apt-cache search boinc"04:24
Jucatohalter73: I found it P04:24
intelikeyJucato and that applies to me how ?04:24
ubuntuHello04:24
Jucatointelikey: er sorry... wrong person :(04:25
ubuntuHi, could someone answer me a question about the monitor display?04:25
intelikeyJucato :)04:25
halter73is compilerwriter still here04:25
malik__what happens to all the text generated at  pastebin?.........does it stay on the net   or ubuntu takes it down after a while?04:26
halter73sure ubuntu what is you monitor problem04:26
pablo7ubuntu: just ask.04:26
intelikeyubuntu what about it ?04:26
ubuntuThanks04:26
Jucatomalik__: I think it's removed after a long time04:26
aseigomalik__: they eventually take it down. on the submission form there is a place to note how long you want to keep it up04:26
homberookay.. time to try compiling an allegro program04:27
ubuntuIt's not letting me go past 1024 by 768, and I know I can go higher to 1280 by 1024 on other linus systems.04:27
halter73kk keep us posted hombero04:27
halter73so your monitor supports it?04:27
ubuntulinux systems. sorry04:27
ubuntuYes04:27
pablo7ubuntu: locate xorg.conf04:28
halter73go to system settings -> Monitor & Display04:28
ubuntuOk04:28
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halter73pablo7 lets try the gui way first04:28
ubuntuI'm there04:28
halter73go to hardware04:28
halter73the tab04:28
ubuntuok04:28
ubuntuI'm a hardware04:29
halter73the click administrator mode and put in you admin password04:29
ubuntuI don't have an ID, I'm running a live cd to test this04:29
halter73ok then just go strait to configure by monitor #104:30
halter73it might be able to detect you monitor, but if your like me you might have to select your monitory from a list04:30
ubuntuHow do I activate it? It doesn't do anything when I click04:31
halter73click administrator mode04:31
intelikeyubuntu sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   answer all the questions carefully and acurately    use  http://monitorworld.com or other sources as needed.    restart the xserver when finished.   [alt] +[ctrl] +[backspace]   will restart the xserver without a reboot.04:31
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ubuntuI clicked it04:32
halter73ubunut is using a live cd i'm just telling him how to do it using system settings04:32
halter73do u have a red ring around the setting stuff04:32
halter73ubuntu???04:32
halter73are u able to click configure now and have it open a new window?04:33
ubuntuI don't see anything to increase the display04:33
homberookay04:33
halter73wait patiently04:33
halter73do you have the correct monitor selected for monitor #104:34
homberoi copied the project files off my book's CD onto the desktop.. which file do i want to open in kdevelop to open up the project? or is it different than windows in this way04:34
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ubuntumonitor custom 104:34
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halter73hombero: you should be able to import project under the project menu and choose the entire folder04:35
halter73ubuntu: click configure and choose you monitor make and model from list04:35
ubuntuI'm not having much luck so far. Sorry to be such a pain.04:36
halter73OR run autodetect monitor04:36
halter73no prob04:36
homberojeeez error city lol04:36
halter73so am I correct in saying you cannot change your monitor model by clicking configure?04:37
halter73???04:37
homberomain.c:9: error: previous declaration of _mangled_main was here04:37
homberois the first error04:37
halter73did you import it well hombero?04:38
halter73w/o error04:38
homberoyeah04:38
ubuntuI have a Viewsonic VP920B04:38
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ubuntuI don't see it on the list04:38
halter73it might be better to get Jucato to help you04:38
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halter73he seems to have more knowledge04:39
homberothe books outlined into chapters, each chapter has a few different projects in it, and then for example im trying to compile one of the projects, in the project folder there are another two folders, admin, and another called circlefill04:39
Jucato^^^^^^^04:39
homberoaka circlefill/admin and circlefill/circlefill04:39
homberocirclefill is the name of the project04:39
halter73ok just use autodetect then04:39
halter73ubuntu04:39
ubuntuIt's not working. The main problem is it's not filling my screen. There is more than an inch of black around the edges of my viewing screen04:40
ubuntuYes04:40
halter73under the Size, Orientation, and Positioning you are unable to go over 1024 x 76804:40
homberotry changing the settings on your screen itself maybe04:40
halter73am i tight04:40
ubuntuYes04:40
halter73still04:40
ubuntuI tried PCLinux and it let me bump it up to 1280 by 1024, and it filled the screen. But I wanted to go with this because it's more popular.04:41
halter73choose a generic monitor from the top then that allows 1280 by 102404:41
halter73hit apply04:42
halter73then try to change the resolution04:42
RadiantFireubuntu: you can also try using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the terminal, and selecting the appropriate resolutions you want available04:42
RadiantFiresometimes that works for resolutions I can't get guidance to give me on my laptop04:42
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dennistergood evening all04:43
neomatikhi all !04:43
halter73the only reason (k)ubuntu will not let u set it higher is b/c it does not want to set your monitor out of range04:43
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halter73were you able to switch to a generic monitor04:43
neomatikis any good video editor for ubuntu04:43
homberoc04:43
halter73ubuntu?04:43
homberocd '/home/andrew/Desktop/kdevelop/chapter03/circlefill' && make -k04:43
homberomake all-recursive04:43
homberoMaking all in circlefill04:43
homberocompiling main.c (gcc)04:43
homberomain.c:10: error: conflicting types for _mangled_main04:43
homberomain.c:9: error: previous declaration of _mangled_main was here04:44
ubuntuit say restart somekind of x server04:44
homberomain.c: In function _mangled_main:04:44
homberomain.c:24: warning: return with no value, in function returning non-void04:44
Jucato!pastebin | hombero04:44
ubotuhombero: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:44
homberomain.c:28: warning: textprintf is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/allegro/alcompat.h:189)04:44
ubuntuwhat's that?04:44
dennisterneomatik: do u mean film editor, or video editor? some ppl get them confused04:44
halter73click ok04:44
homberomake[2] : *** [main.o]  Error 104:44
pablo7neomatik: you can try kino.04:44
homberomake[2] : Target `all' not remade because of errors.04:44
homberomake[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 104:44
homberomake: *** [all-recursive-am]  Error 204:44
homberomake: Target `all' not remade because of errors.04:44
hombero*** Exited with status: 2 ***04:44
Jucatohombero: stop04:44
homberooh sorry didnt know04:44
dennisterhey jucato :)04:44
Jucatohi dennister04:44
homberodidnt mean to cause anyone trouble or annoyance sorry guys04:44
neomatikkino. I think I have hear of it04:45
neomatikcan I connect video camera to capture video to Kino ?04:45
pablo7neomatik: yes.04:45
halter73ubuntu are you still there or did you restart your xserver already04:45
ubuntuwhat should I do next04:45
dennisteri'm having trouble installing a scanner that I've easily and successfully installed many times04:45
halter73next change your resolution04:45
neomatikpablo7: thanks ! I will try now.04:45
homberohalter, this is the output im getting from kdev when trying to compile04:45
homberohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36938/04:45
dennistercan't understand why this time it's problematic04:46
halter73once you picked the generic monitor04:46
ubuntuI did04:46
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pablo7neomatik: it might take a while to download the kde-libs if you're on a slow connection.04:46
ubuntuI've set it for 1280 ny 1024, but I have to restart some x server04:46
dennisterwhen i want to unmount it, terminal tells me it's multiply mounted (???)04:46
neomatikpablo7: how big the package ?04:47
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halter73[alt] +[ctrl] +[backspace]  to restart the x server04:47
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dennisterhow do i found out how it's multiply mounted so i can unmount all of them?04:47
halter73you need to restart the x server to change resolution04:47
_kuja_ack ... 340mb+ this'll take a couple of days ...04:47
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halter73once your done04:47
homberois there an easier to set up and get working compiler than kdev?04:47
halter73 tell us how it worked out ubuntu04:47
homberoer IDE i should say04:47
halter73hombero, im not ignoring you04:47
intelikeydennister cat /proc/mounts04:48
pablo7neomatik: not sure because i run kubuntu (w/ kde), but just to upgrade kino was something like 9 MB.04:48
halter73i looke at the log a little already04:48
jontec!libxine-extracodecs04:48
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB04:48
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hombero=] 04:48
_kuja_hombero, just use g++ in a terminal?04:48
matthewman, I tried to install a 3d driver for my ati rage 128...but I ended up totally screwing up my xorg.conf...good thing I backed it up!04:48
halter73however i already told you to i'm a bit of a noob at this myself, i have the basics down04:48
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homberonah i meant a development environment not the actual compiler sorry for the confusion kuja04:48
halter73I have never herd of the allegro graphics library04:49
compilerwriterI am still around halter73 just busy with about a dozen things at once.04:49
myrdosI use it on a regular basis04:49
ubuntuDid you get that  Halter7304:49
halter73so am i04:49
myrdosGood for games, crappy for GUIs04:49
ubuntuIt worked! Thanks!04:49
halter73no type that again04:49
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dennisterpablo7: ty...it seems there's a funny line at the bottom i've never seen before:binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 004:50
halter73cool thanks for reporting back ti si good to know i could help04:50
ubuntuYou certainly did. Thanks so much.04:50
neomatikpablo7: 9mb is not alot I have cable connection here, it should take just a few minutes, if the other server is fast. Thank you for info really helps.04:50
halter73hopefully you will stick with (k)ubuntu and more importantly linux04:50
pablo7neomatik: no problem.04:50
dennisterpablo: can I just delete it?04:50
halter73i think you would like it04:50
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dennisterI have the proper line for it up top04:51
pablo7dennister: what are you talking about?04:51
halter73i switche to kubuntu just a few months back because the great support the community offers so i figured i should give back04:51
intelikey   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36936/plain/  ?04:52
dennisterthe multiple mounts...i think the line in fstab that i cat from the cat command (i quoted it ^^) is the culprit04:52
halter73hombero: the compile would probably work if you got the allegro dev files04:52
myrdosget the package, not the source04:52
halter73it will certaintly not work w/o it04:52
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dennisteri just want the line that I entered into fstab myself, manually, for the scanner04:52
myrdosallegro source won't work well in kubuntu because of missing dependencies04:52
matthewanyone know where I can get a 3d driver for my ati rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS?04:52
jontecwhere is the repository file? I need to add one and I can't remember... T_T04:53
halter73compilerwriter, are you the one who wanted to install bonic?04:53
homberoi have the allegro dev files04:53
myrdoshttp://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libdevel/liballegro4.2-dev04:54
myrdosThat one?04:54
pablo7dennister: okay, i just use xsane to select the scanner for me, i don't really edit /etc/fstab these days.04:54
DaSkreechhombero: Did you get b-e ?04:54
halter73mathew: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide04:55
dennistero wait...the cat command results are quite different from fstab...there are lots of mounts for the scanner04:55
halter73that should help, write back with questions04:55
homberoyes 4.2 myrdos, what is b-e?04:55
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myrdosdunno04:55
halter73mydros do u use allegro?04:55
myrdosyes, for years now04:56
halter73ok thank you, I think you could help hombero much better than i can04:56
myrdosthe package is the key, it gives you all of allegro's dependencies04:56
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halter73mathew u there04:56
myrdoswell, what's the problem? (I joined after you described it I think)04:57
dennisterok, it looks like i will delete the one i put in manually, and see if it works without it...i'm used to using xsane myself04:57
matthewhalter, yeah, but I'm not getting alerted, cause you need to include 2 t's in matthew...or start typing my name and hit tab for auto-complete04:57
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matthewjust saw the link04:57
matthewhalter73, yeah, but I'm not getting alerted, cause you need to include 2 t's in matthew...or start typing my name and hit tab for auto-complete04:57
halter73matthew: is that link helpful04:58
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matthewhalter73, looks like it...I"m still reading04:58
halter73kk04:58
matthewhalter73, I didn't mean to be rude...04:59
myrdoskonversation crashed on me :(04:59
homberothis is the output i get when trying to compile my allegro program04:59
homberohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36938/04:59
myrdosEND_OF_MAIN needs to be after your main function05:00
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homberothis is the program code05:01
halter73no prob matthew you didn't come off as rude05:01
homberohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36942/05:01
Dr_willisHmm.. Trying to find a Tv listing viewing program.. cant seem to track one down.05:01
halter73i'm new to IRC, glad for the advice and i am just trying to help people by pointing them in the right direction05:01
Dr_willisMythTV is using the zap2it web site.. but i cant seem to find an alternative front end to the listings05:01
myrdosI checked my code, I don't have the semi-colon after END_OF_MAIN()05:02
myrdostry that?05:02
halter73Dr_willis: i use tvtime for normal veiwing05:02
dennisterhmmm...xsane says no scanners avaiilable05:02
myrdosI should mention, there's an allegro channel here05:02
myrdos#allegro05:02
Dr_willis!info tvtime05:02
ubotutvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB05:02
halter73and use mythtv for my tvguide + dvr viewing05:02
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Dr_willisNot watching tv.. just getting the guide listing05:02
Dr_willis:)05:02
homberoi tried the allegro channel earlier and they were kind of mean lol05:02
halter73ok05:02
homberotried removing the ; and no fix05:02
Dr_willisI got Mythtv on this other box.. but for sime reason the listing/guide its downloading is wrong.05:02
myrdosheh05:02
Dr_williswanting to double check it.05:02
halter73Dr_willis: why not just check tv listings online?05:03
intelikeyhas anyone even looked at this?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36936/plain/   i have asked four times in the last hour and not one word in reply.     i did get a "keep your cli help to your self" answer when i offered an answer tho...     ?05:03
homberodo i need to include things other than the #include stuff?05:03
Dr_willishalter73,  i want to check the ones i am getting from zap2it05:03
mefisto__In system settings, sharing, everything is dimmed out. I can't change any settings. How do I share files/folders?05:03
myrdosnot as far as I know05:04
myrdoshow are you compiling?05:04
halter73ok05:04
Dr_willisto double check the mythtv stuff.. i cant tell if its off by an hr, day , or heck several days.. not sure what the deal is.. but the listings it 'thinks' its are showing are not the right ones.05:04
Dr_willis!samba05:04
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:04
dennisteri'm having real problems purging a dpkg package05:04
homberohitting build -> build project05:04
Dr_willismefisto__,  install the samba stuff.05:04
myrdosg++ myprogram.cpp `allegro-config --libs` -o netpaint05:05
DaSkreechintelikey: That's a CD?05:05
myrdosmaybe try that?05:05
intelikeyDaSkreech no05:05
dennisteri try to purge, error message says certain files aren't there to purge, i reinstall it, the files it said were missing appear, and then try to purge again, the files are deleted, then terminal compalins it can't find them :(05:05
intelikeyDaSkreech sda   hard drive.05:06
mefisto__Dr_willis: I think I've installed it, because I can see the samba share on another computer. But I can't share anything on THIS one05:06
dennisterodd, it deletes like it's supposed to, and then complains about it's own work05:06
DaSkreechWell it's a wrong magic error05:06
matthewuh, halter73 , that link is only good for Radeon-class Cards...I've got a rage-class...only 32 Mb RAM...yeah.05:06
halter73intelikey: I did read you message howver i don't know the problem or solution05:06
DaSkreechintelikey: you have a cramfs on your hard drive?05:06
Dr_willismefisto__,  your logic is wrong. :P kde has samba 'client' features built in - to  have samba shares.. you need the samba server.05:06
halter73intelikey: are you just trying to mount a hard drive05:06
halter73srry matthew, thought it might help05:07
intelikeyhalter73 thanks for looking.05:07
intelikeyDaSkreech all initrd.img's are cramfs  no ?05:07
mefisto__Dr_willis: I'm actually trying to get zeroconf working. I don't need samba to do that, right?05:07
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DaSkreechWhen are you getting this?05:07
myrdosdoes anyone know how to disable a laptop's touchpad?05:07
intelikeyhalter73 that comes up each boot.05:07
matthewhalter73, no problem...except I got half-way through the instructions before I realized it...oh well, hope I can do this...05:08
myrdoswhile still enabling the 'normal' mouse?05:08
intelikeyit slows the boot time and is an annoyance to see errors at boot time.05:08
Dr_willismefisto__,  ive never figured out a way to make zeroconf do anything. I think its very much a 'work in progress'05:08
DaSkreechintelikey: Boot up with a live Cd and mount the drive05:08
Dr_willismefisto__,  id say check the wiki/forums for zeroconf info05:08
DaSkreechor fsck it05:08
halter73intelikey: what filesystem are u using for your root partition05:08
homberomyrdos: it outputs the same mangled_main() error05:08
myrdosI'll try compiling it over here... hold on05:09
intelikeyDaSkreech ?   i'm running from the drive now.05:09
homberocool thanks =] 05:09
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intelikeyhalter73 ext205:09
DaSkreechintelikey: Yeah I figured05:09
intelikeyok i stopped lagging.05:09
intelikeyDaSkreech and ?05:10
DaSkreechand I gave you the advice I just gave you05:10
halter73intelikey: did you say you are running from the harddrive or the cd righ now?05:10
intelikeyi'm sorry but what can i do from the live cd that i cant do from the running system ?05:10
intelikeyhalter73 hd05:10
DaSkreechunmount the drive and run fsck on it?05:10
halter73but it is just mounting to /root05:11
intelikeyDaSkreech i can remount ro and check it.   but it's clean.05:11
halter73intelikey: try running sudo mount /dev/root05:11
DaSkreechcan you fsck the .imd ?05:11
DaSkreechcan you fsck the .img ?05:11
halter73or have you already done so?05:11
intelikeycan you fsck cramfs ?05:11
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intelikeyhalter73 yeah dev/root is mounted on /05:12
DaSkreechI would assume if it is a fs you can check it in some way05:12
DaSkreechwell you can't for swap so maybe not05:12
intelikeycram is readonly  i never saw any fsck util for it...05:12
Ash-FoxBy sending specially crafted packets, a remote attacker could exploit this to bypass firewall rules. <- Those exploits are so cool :P05:12
Dr_willisYea - fscking cramfs - seems ... odd...05:13
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halter73ok then the error message could be a resuld to trying to mount a partition already on "/" to "/root"05:13
myrdoscompiled for me, some of the stuff in there gave deprecation warnings05:13
myrdosthe command I used:05:13
myrdosg++ test.cpp `allegro-config --libs`05:13
compilerwriteryes halter73 I wanted to reinstall boinc05:14
halter73intelikey: ok then the error message could be a resuld to trying to mount a partition already on "/" to "/root"05:14
myrdosI had to make the main function return an int though05:14
myrdosprobably could have avoided that if I'd used gcc instead of g++05:14
intelikeyhalter73 yeah  could be.   what do you sujest ?     rebuilding the initramfs.img ?05:14
halter73intelikey: you could edit your /etc/fsatb file to stop your computer from incorrectly mounting the hard drive05:15
intelikeyhalter73 that's before it ever sees /etc05:15
intelikeynotice the next to last line of text05:15
homberookay thank you for your work myrdos05:15
halter73compilerwriter:  http://einstein.astro.gla.ac.uk/download/boinc/dl/boinc_5.4.11_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh05:16
myrdosno problem, if you still can't get it, I recommend the allegro forums05:16
homberoi tihnk i might need to just uninstall kdevelop and reinstall or something because it seems its a problem with kdevelop/mycompiler05:16
intelikey "   * INIT: version 2.86 booting05:16
homberoalthough..05:16
myrdostry it at the command line first05:16
matthewok, here I go...ran dpkg --reconfigure xorg...or something like that...restarting now!05:16
myrdosthen switch to kdevelop05:16
intelikey  that's when the system loads init05:16
homberoam i supposed to restart after installing allegro?05:16
myrdosshouldn't have to05:16
bobdediegoguy, would Kubuntu 6.06 AMD64 run fine on an Dell XPS 400 with a Pentium D?05:17
myrdosgood luck, anyways05:17
halter73intelikey: you could be right, my idea is just that, an idea05:17
myrdosnice library once you get it working05:17
homberoim wondeirng if i need to link something in or something05:17
homberoty05:17
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myrdosif you use the package, everything should be done for you05:17
pacman_can anyone recommend a good .flac to .mp3 converter?05:17
intelikeywell fstab is accurate anyway.05:17
myrdosit's only the source code that needs all kinds of tweaking05:18
DaSkreechintelikey: I'd be looking ath the magic error05:18
halter73intelikey: however the fact that the bootup is trying to mount "/root" before "/" could be a problem05:18
myrdoshold on a sec...05:18
compilerwriterok thanks halter7305:18
chupieok, i'm trying to update java jre.. but when i goto install it doing apt-get install sun-java5-jre it says that the package is unavailable..05:18
halter73compilerwriter: are you there05:18
bobdediegoguys, would Kubuntu 6.06 AMD64 run fine on an Dell XPS 400 with a Pentium D?, what do you think?05:18
pacman_intelikey: your opinion is always welcome05:18
homberoi used the package that was listed on adept05:19
halter73bobdediego: yes, why not?05:19
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bobdediegook, im about to wipe out mu actual kubuntu installation to try that one, thx halter73 :)05:19
intelikeyhalter73 no in the initramfs the hard drive is mounted on /root then init is loaded and the system is checked and then fstab read and the same fs mounted on /root is then mounted on /      i know it sounds convoluted but that's how ubuntu does it.05:19
myrdosyeah, that's the one05:19
homberowell i think ive figured out the problem..05:20
dennisterintelikey: your cat command told me that yes, the usbfs for my scanner is multiply mounted; how do i reduce these multiple mounts?05:20
myrdos?05:20
homberofor some reason both allegro 4.1 and 4.2 are installed05:20
myrdosheh, it can't help05:20
halter73intelikey: it seams you know more about it than i do, i was just trying to help05:20
homberogoing to try to see if that helps05:20
DaSkreechthats upstart?05:20
pacman_intelikey is the man (or woman)05:21
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DaSkreechor bot05:21
intelikeydennister find what is mounting it.    and stop one of them.    alternatively you can use a startup script to just umount it and thus start from scratch.05:21
halter73bobdediego: why not kubuntu 6.10?05:21
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bobdediegogood question, maybe I should download that one05:21
pacman_intelikey: no help? :(05:22
bobdediegonot sure yet05:22
dennisterhow do i find out what is mounting it? (i certainly don't know how to use a startup script)05:22
halter73bobdediego: I think it is much better, but it is just my opinion05:22
bobdediegoi had to stop the dual core feature on this installation05:22
intelikeypacman_ i missed your Q sorry.  but no i never used flac  so i have no idea.05:23
bobdediegothe cpu usage was at 100%05:23
dennisteri know there is no fstab line anymore for this usbfs...where else could it be05:23
halter73bobdediego: I have not done a kubuntu install on a dual core processor before so maybe ask someone who has05:23
DaSkreechbobdediego: it's using it as SMP?05:23
halter73bobdediego: the newer the version though, the more likely i figure the bug would be fixed?05:23
bobdediegothx for your opinion halter73, i will do some more research in any case05:23
dennisterhalter73: i have a dual core processor here05:23
halter73dennister: does it work well on kubuntu 6.1005:24
compilerwriterhalter73 how exactly am I to install it?05:24
homberookay05:24
dennisteryes, i'm very pleased indeed05:24
halter73compilerwriter: did you download it yet?05:24
bobdediegowhat processor do you have dennister?05:24
homberoi dragged the files that im trying to open into kdevelop over from a CD onto my desktop, but im getting that i dont have permission to access them when kdev want sto save or compile any ideas?05:24
compilerwriterI tried to, but it said it is a binary file and saving it will do no good.05:24
dennisteramd 64 x2 3800+05:25
compilerwriterHave it on my desktop now.05:25
bobdediegoI have an Intel Pentium D05:25
myrdosit's still set to read only05:25
myrdoscause it was copied from a CD05:25
halter73the open up the konsole05:25
halter73run cd Desktop05:25
myrdosfrom the command line it's: chmod a+x myfiles05:25
myrdosdoh05:25
myrdosI mean chmod a+rw myfiles05:26
halter73then sudo sudo ./boinc_5.4.11_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh05:26
myrdosprobably an option by right-clicking on it to enable writing as well05:26
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halter73compilerwriter:05:26
halter73<halter73> the open up the konsole05:26
halter73[23:26]  <halter73> run cd Desktop05:26
homberookay thanks myr, can I put a folder name for myfiles and have it do the entire folder?05:26
halter73compilerwriter: then sudo sudo ./boinc_5.4.11_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh05:26
myrdoschmod a+rw *05:27
homberothank you05:27
myrdosthat would do all the files in a folder05:27
dennisterwell i need to go start a download on another machine...then bedtime for me...will try to fix this multiply-mounted usbfs for my scanner tomorrow...night folks05:27
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bobdediegotake care dennister05:27
homberotake care05:28
halter73ttyl dennister05:28
homberoits still saying i dont have permission hmm05:28
compilerwriterkeith@Minuet:~/Desktop$ sudo sudo ./boinc*05:28
compilerwriterPassword:05:28
compilerwritersudo: ./boinc_5.4.11_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh: command not found05:28
compilerwriterkeith@Minuet:~/Desktop$05:28
bobdediegowith sudo?05:28
intelikeyDaSkreech ok lets examine the "[17179594.072000]  cramfs: wrong magic "    do you have any idea what it's looking for ?05:28
myrdoswell, right-click on the icon for one of them, go to properties->permissions05:28
intelikeywhat why or where  ?05:29
myrdoswhat does it say?05:29
halter73compilerwriter: whed you are in the Desktop directory after running "cd Desktop"05:29
compilerwriterhalter73 sudo gives me an error05:29
homberosays Can read Can read Can read05:29
myrdosswitch to can read and modify05:30
bobdediegoits today wednesday?, OMG ive been sitting here too long :(05:30
halter73ok you are in the Desktop already i think compilerwriter05:30
DaSkreechintelikey: Magic number?05:30
homberook thanks, do i have to do that for every file over and over though>05:30
DaSkreechthough that seems wrong05:30
compilerwriterThat is correct halter7305:30
myrdosif chmod didn't work...05:30
DaSkreech My hard drive threw that error a day before it died05:30
halter73then run "ls |grep boin05:30
halter73compilerwriter: "ls |grep boin05:30
homberoi think i know how to do it05:31
compilerwriterls | grep boinc05:31
homberoi checked "apply to all folders and their subdirectories under this level" or something05:31
intelikeywell it's not likely that the initramfs.img is about to die.   and the hd has never had a bad block   and i've checked it several times.05:31
homberomaybe that will apply it to all05:31
halter73does this command output anything? compilerwriter05:31
myrdossounds good05:31
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myrdosIt looks like you can select multiple files and right click to change all their permissions as well05:31
compilerwriteryup it outputs that I have a file boinc_5.****05:31
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intelikeygoogle shows sever people describing the same problem but i've not seen any answer yet...05:32
compilerwriterIs there a way to apt-get boinc05:32
ubuntuHi, I'am going to install Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake, Is there any way to tell gparted to mount 2 lvm partitions to /home and /usr, I want to keep my /home lvm partition cuz I have my data there05:32
homberookay it worked, myrdos, but now I get this error that is not allowing it to compile05:32
hombero -  /usr/lib/liballeg.a(xwin.o): In function `_xwin_private_set_window_defaults': undefined reference to `XpmCreatePixmapFromData'05:32
halter73ok then run "sudo ./bion" then press [TAB]  and it should finish the statment the press ENTER compilerwriter05:32
myrdosare you linking to the library?05:33
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DaSkreechintelikey: is the number significant?05:33
compilerwritersudo complains that the command is not found05:33
myrdosI've never used Kdevelop, I just use Kate + terminal05:33
homberoi dont know myr, all i did was install kdev, install the essentials, install allegro and then typed in some allegro code from a learning book05:33
halter73if that doesn't work run "sudo sh bion" then press [TAB]  ... compilerwriter05:33
myrdosOK, you definitely need to link to allegro05:33
ubuntuSomeone with knowledge about ubuntu, lvm and gparted ?05:33
halter73in place of ./ write "sh" then a space [space] 05:34
halter73in place of ./ write "sh" then a space [space]  compilerwriter05:34
myrdosbut cursed if I know how to do it in KDevelop05:34
DaSkreechubuntu: Using the live CD?05:35
halter73is it working compilerwriter05:35
homberoalas i do not know either, be right back05:35
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halter73ubuntu: why not use 6.1005:36
compilerwriterI think I have it installed now I have to get the client fired up and the gui fired up.05:36
ubuntuDaSkreech: Yes, I am using LiveCD 6.0605:36
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intelikeyDaSkreech the number preceeding the error message ?05:36
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geniiIs anyone getting a weird half-blank screen during install on Feisty?05:36
matthewman, that was hard...but I got05:36
ubuntuhalter73: I'am going to upgrade as soon as I install this one. :)05:36
DaSkreechubuntu: FAIK the LiveCD isnt the way to go for Lvm. If you are installing get the alternate CD05:37
myrdosHere's what I've googled: Run allegro-config --libs on the command line. That'll give you a list of things to add to KDevelop's linker settings.05:37
DaSkreechintelikey:05:37
DaSkreechyes05:37
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matthew'er done...I reconfigured several times...now it's working again...better than before I think...I don't think that the installer installed the right driver/options05:37
halter73why not install 6.10 and skip the frustration of upgrading, ubuntu05:37
intelikeyi wouldn't think so    it's just  a kernel timestamp05:37
ubuntuDaSkreech:  alternate cd? Where do I obtain it?05:37
DaSkreechubuntu: Where did you get the LIve Cd?05:38
matthew!alternate05:38
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.05:38
myrdosThis seems to be a good link also: http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/58875805:38
geniiThe live cd and the install CD are now the same05:38
intelikeyDaSkreech ^ i wouldn't think so    it's just  a kernel timestamp05:38
ubuntuDaSkreech: Downloaded at the {k,u}buntu website05:39
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myrdosand it's time for me to get some sleep. Take it easy :)05:39
ubuntuubotu: Thanks05:39
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)05:39
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DaSkreechubuntu: That's the same place you get the alternate05:39
ubuntuI kneew05:39
DaSkreechubuntu:  I assume this is for an install?05:39
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ubuntuDaSkreech: You are sure that it is possible to mount lvm partitions with the alternate cd, like in debian?05:40
DaSkreechintelikey: So any idea waht the magic is?05:40
lexi_hi @all. did anyone manage to bring iTunes to live via wine ? followed this recipe http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=itunes6 . didnt work for me.05:40
geniiDomo Arigato Mr Ubotu05:40
DaSkreechubuntu: The alternate is to install. Is this an install issue?05:40
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intelikeyhehhe there is another odd one on that subject.  http://gnowledge.org/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20030602/036528.html05:40
ubuntuDaSkreech: Yes05:41
DaSkreechlexi_: Why do you want itunes?05:41
compilerwritergot a client and manager going now.  Have to reconnect.05:41
compilerwriterThanks.05:41
DaSkreechubuntu: if you want to test you can install lvm on the Live CD05:41
ubuntuDaSkreech: I want to install ubuntu but want the setup to install the /usr to an alredy existing /usr lvm partition. And mount /home to my alredy existing lvm home partition05:42
lexi_as a client for the store. i know there are plenty alternatives for everything else ;)05:42
halter73your welcome compilerwriter05:42
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intelikeyDaSkreech i'm going to see if the new kernel patch helps and rebuild the initramfs.img  if it doesn't.     thanks for the ToD and effort.05:42
ubuntuDaSkreech: There is alredy LVM on the livecd, The thing is that I can't manage gparted to mount my lvm parititons the way I want. It sees only the usual parititons05:43
DaSkreechubuntu: I would think that the alternate is the way to go. You many need to go to the advanced install (f6)05:43
DaSkreechubuntu: Oh really I've never gotten LVM to work on the live CD05:43
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matthewok, this is a major pain in the butt05:44
matthewI tried to play supertux w/ openGL enabled...and it crashed...05:44
ubuntuDaSkreech:  Then I'll give the alternate cd expert/advanced install a try. Thanks for your help05:45
halter73matthew: how did you install the ATI drivers?05:45
matthewh/o05:45
matthewhalter73, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xor05:45
DaSkreechubuntu: Cool :)05:45
matthew-xorg05:45
geniimatthew Do you have some x300 - x800 series ATI?05:46
homberohey05:46
geniiBecause I have a page bookmarked here for special driver install on those05:46
matthewhalter73, used the ati driver, with no kernel frame buffering, 65536 of RAM, stuff like that05:46
matthewgenii, I have a rage 128 pro05:47
homberoMyr are you still here?05:47
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geniimatthew Ah OK... I used to have a PCI one. I eventually had to use the vesa driver, the xorg driver kept crashing it05:48
halter73i wish, i could help more but i use nvidia cards05:48
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matthewgenii, ok...why does the ati crash so often?05:49
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geniimatthew mainly because ATI provides little info to developers for drivers so much is done by reverse-engineering05:50
matthewgenii, ah yes, I remember reading that now05:50
homberoanyone fammiliar with kdevelop here?05:50
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solid_liqhombero: try #kde-devel05:51
AngryElfhey all when I launch amarok I get "failed to open device" then it quits......I see nothing but the splash screen05:51
halter73AngryElf: not to stat the obvious but have you reinstalled amarok05:52
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AngryElfI did dpkg-reconfigure amarok05:53
homberothank you solid05:53
geniimatthew I'll give you the link to that ATI driver install page .. you may want to try the alternate driver listed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19013305:53
halter73AngryElf: why not just use adept05:54
matthewgenii, will it work for the rage-class card? seems like all the drivers out there are for the Radeon and up cards05:54
halter73AngryElf: anyway if reinstalling doesint work run amarok from the command line and post the output05:54
dettoaltrimenti_is there a website to read the manual entries to programs/commands in linux?05:55
AngryElfit's something to do with mysql05:55
geniimatthew Well, I figure it's worth a try. You can always revert the driver by editing the xorg.conf file after if it's no good05:56
matthewok, go for it...05:56
halter73AngryElf: to my knowledge amarok does not require MySQL, Do you have any more info05:56
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genii-awayI need to make a coffee run...back in 1005:57
homberonot finding any help with kdevelop in #kde-devel or #kdevelop05:58
dettoaltrimenti_how do I make certain programs run during starup? is there some kind of tutorial online describing how?05:58
AngryElfyea, i set it to use mysql :) which is why it's got something to do with it ;)05:58
AngryElfi got it working -- however, the fact that it didn't like my mysql Settings should not prevent it from opening altogether05:58
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halter73AngryElf: what do you us MySQL for?05:59
AngryElfmore than one computer hitting my one DB06:00
halter73AngryElf: And I realized that libmysqlclient15off is required06:00
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halter73Angry06:00
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halter73AngryElf: however i'm sure you have that if you have the entire database06:00
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halter73AngryElf: Has it worked w/ MySQL previously06:01
AngryElflike I said, it's working now -- i had the host ip wrong06:01
AngryElfmy point now is that *that* shouldn't prevent mysql from opening06:01
halter73o, ok i missed that, my bad06:01
AngryElfthat smells like a bug06:01
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halter73submit it to bugzilla or it equivilant06:01
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matthewgenii-away, ok, I tried that...didn't work...bummer, huh? How's the coffee?06:11
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matthewgenii, ok, I tried that...didn't work...bummer, huh? How's the coffee?06:12
geniiI *JUST* returned :) Coffee is strong and good06:12
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matthewgenii, yuck...but that's just me...06:12
matthewgenii, I like SWM's...Single White Mochas06:12
matthewgenii, with whipped cream...06:13
matthewmmmm06:13
geniimatthew I set up a rage 128 AIW before... had to use the vesa driver eventually, unfortunately06:13
matthewgenii, I'm now using the ati driver, but if I run into problems, that's where I'll go as well.06:13
geniiIs your GL library up-to-date?06:14
matthewgenii, how can I tell06:14
matthew?06:14
geniiLooking into that right now06:15
matthewgenii, thanks for being such a huge help to me.06:15
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DaSkreechWhy isn't there an ubuntu-games ?06:16
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geniimatthew libgl1-mesa seems to be the library06:17
matthewgenii, sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa?06:18
geniiyeah I'd try that06:18
matthewok, here we go06:18
DaSkreechTribal trouvles has an Ubuntu fix :-)06:18
matthewlibgl1-mesa-glx is already the newest version.06:19
geniiThere also seem to be a lot of other things gl-related from the results of apt-cache search opengl|more06:19
matthewgenii, any other ideas?06:19
geniigive me a minute, I need to go look at my other machine here...this is a windoze box :)06:20
geniiperhaps libgl1-mesa-dri06:20
matthewlibgl1-mesa-dri is already the newest version.06:21
homberowhat is the "commit"?06:21
geniiand libgl1-mesa-swrast06:21
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geniilibglu1-mesa perhaps06:22
matthewgenii, ooh, that did something, I'm being prompted to install 53.1 MB of stuff...I think I'll do it...06:22
Ash-Fox!soundcards06:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soundcards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:22
geniiWeird the bot should know SOMEthing about soundcards06:22
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hombero!sound cards06:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sound cards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:23
geniimatthew If those libraries I mentioned get updated and still no-go I'm outta ideas06:23
hombero!audio cards06:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audio cards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:23
homberomeh06:23
matthewok...06:23
matthewgenii, once those 50 megs of libs d/l, I'll do that last one...and then...use the fglrx driver?06:24
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geniiWell I'd try the ATI driver first06:24
geniiAlso I just found another library that maybe needs updating libgl1-mesa-glide306:25
geniiA lot of hardware GL stuff needs glide drivers06:26
matthewgenii, ok, gonna restart the ol' xserver...06:27
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geniimatthew OK good luck :)06:28
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matthewgenii, hmm, restarted, xserver wouldn't load, ran the dpkg thing, ati, no buffer, 64k RAM, etc, back up...testing the opengl right now...06:33
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geniiOK06:34
geniimatthew at the command-line what does "glxinfo | grep render" produce?06:34
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matthewgenii, darn, I really screwed something up. I now longer have access to screensavers, The diagnostics is: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: _LINE_06:35
matthewok, h/o06:35
matthewgenii, I get the following: glxinfo: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE__06:35
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matthewI really screwed something up, huh?06:36
geniibah, some kernel version mismatch it seems06:36
matthewI'm using the 2.6.17-10-generic version.06:36
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matthewgenii, wow, I'm in way over my head...what do I do?06:37
geniiNo worries :)06:37
matthewgonna talk me though it?06:37
matthewthrough06:37
geniimatthew Just revert the xorg.conf file to use the ATI driver (or vesa if you prefer) as before, and do the dpkg-reconfigure for X06:38
matthewok...h/o06:38
geniiSince the glide3 drivers seem to be the prob right here, do an ap-get remove --purge libgl1-mesa-glide306:38
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bgsteffensi just bought a new hard drive. how can i access it in kubuntu edgy (preferably thru conqueror)06:39
matthewpurging now...06:39
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geniimatthew OK good06:39
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geniibgsteffens How will it be physically installed? Slave on same cable as existing harddrive?06:40
bgsteffensgenii yep, already hooked it up06:41
geniibgsteffens OK, is your normal master drive hda or hdc ?06:41
bgsteffenshda06:41
Ash-FoxI'd like to set the order of three soundcards. The method I've found requires that I set in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, options module-name index=<number for sound device>, unfortunately. I have two soundcards that use the same module (snd_usb_audio), unfortunately as they are USB devices, I can plug them into any port -- so I can't really rely on which port they're plugged into. "asoundconf list" does however name one "Headset" and the other06:41
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geniibgsteffens OK, so it will be then hdb. You need to partition it first, then format it. after that you can mount it.06:42
bgsteffensthanks06:42
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matthewgenii, apt is telling me that there is a veritable plethora of packages that are no longer needed...I'll post it to paste-bin...06:43
geniibgsteffens since I am a command-line guy I would do: fdisk /dev/hdb ...set it up...then mke2fs /dev/hdb1 then make a dir like /mnt/drive2  then put an fstab entry for it06:43
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geniimatthew OK06:44
matthew!pastebin06:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:44
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geniimatthew Don't worry much, they are all sub-dependencies of that main glide3 package06:45
matthewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36948/06:45
matthewI don't think so...06:45
matthewnot kpager and ksig and ktuberlings...06:45
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geniiWhoa hangon, I just have that page up now06:45
geniiWTF?06:46
matthewseriously06:46
genii1 minute06:46
matthewok06:46
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matthewnot panicking06:46
matthewlol06:46
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matthewI think I'll put in 'n', not 'Y'06:46
matthewlol06:46
geniiYeah good idea06:46
rpvhi all06:46
matthewso...ideas?06:47
geniiIt should *NOT* be wanting to remove all that kde stuff06:47
matthewyeah, i should think not!06:47
geniitry without the --purge06:47
drewdropinhey room ~~~~~~~~~~!!!06:47
drewdropinI'm so glad I got on....06:47
matthewgenii, same thing06:47
geniimatthew OK give me a minute to cogitate :)06:48
matthewok...here's some light reading...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36949/06:48
drewdropinIt's been sooooooooooo hard getting ANY chat to work!!!!06:48
matthewdrewdropin, this ubuntu-specific chat...06:48
matthewjust so you know06:48
geniiDid it give you any compile or install messages when libgl1-mesa-glide3 was installed?06:48
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matthewgenii, nope, nothing...06:49
matthewjust that it wanted to install a bunch of libs and remove some libs...06:49
matthewI was kind of sketch about it...oh well, I can always reinstall...got my /home partition on a different drive...06:49
drewdropinthanks matthew....06:50
geniibrb--researching06:50
drewdropinI'm using ubuntu06:50
matthewgenii, thanks for stickin' with it!06:50
matthewdrewdropin, that's very cool...06:51
drewdropinkubuntu is what again???06:51
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geniimatthew please do an apt-get check06:51
drewdropinhow do I get onto freenode or regular ubuntu chat???06:51
matthewdrewdropin, kubuntu is ubuntu with the KDE desktop manager06:52
geniidewdropin It's the KDE version of ubuntu as opposed to the GNOME version06:52
matthewdrewdropin, /join #ubuntu06:52
matthewReading package lists... Done06:52
matthewBuilding dependency tree06:52
matthewReading state information... Done06:52
drewdropinwhat's the differance???06:52
matthewdrewdropin, the interface...the Graphical User Interface06:52
matthewdrewdropin, the desktop06:53
DaSkreechdrewdropin: one uses KDE06:53
drewdropinis the desktop not like windows???06:53
matthewdrewdropin, KDE is full of eyecandy, while GNOME just gets 'er done06:53
geniiThe KDE desktop looks more like a Windows desktop basically06:53
drewdropinin kde that is06:53
drewdropinreally06:54
Jucatocorrection: KDE can be full of eyecandy, and yet get the job done06:54
matthewgenii, Reading package lists... Done06:54
matthewBuilding dependency tree06:54
matthewReading state information... Done06:54
drewdropinso Kubuntu is even better....06:54
matthewdrewdropin, For some people it is better...06:54
matthewespecially those with higher end machines06:54
geniimatthew this should check your system integrity and give some report06:54
drewdropinlike which is better coke or pepsi?06:54
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matthewalthough I'm using kubuntu on  a 933Mhz box w/ 512MB RAM06:55
matthewgenii, should I pipe the output to a file or to /dev/dsp?06:55
matthewor something like that?06:55
drewdropinI'm using just about the same....06:55
geniimatthew to a file and pastebin would be handy :)06:56
matthewI do that with "sudo apt-get check > /home/matthew/file.txt" , right?06:56
geniiyeah that works06:57
DaSkreechdrewdropin: use both and decide06:57
geniiyou may need to alter permissions on it if yer trying to view it as the regular user06:57
matthewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36950/06:58
geniior ownership rather than permissions06:58
geniimatthew OK brb06:58
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geniiHmm, no glaring errors it seems06:58
matthewno confirmation of anything either...06:58
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matthewgenii, running out of ideas?06:59
geniiapt-cache unmet libgl1-mesa-glide306:59
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geniiWill say what deps it can't find or are messedup hopefully07:00
matthewok...whoa...h/o07:01
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matthewgenii, ok, here it comes...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36952/07:04
geniiOK07:04
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matthewI would agree with that!07:05
dettoaltrimenti_kubuntu makes me stand up straight- there are these gears in konqueror that you can't see if you're looking directly at the monitor, but if you tilt it up or down (a laptop monitor), you can see them07:05
dettoaltrimenti_makes me sit up straight, rather07:05
DaSkreechrsi_break does the same thing :)07:07
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geniiWhats weird is dep checking doesn't show any unresolved dependencies07:08
matthewah, the beauty of linux...even n00bs can royally screw it up...lol at myself...07:08
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geniiscouring for X specific stuff... looks like most of it is OO related...dictionaries etc07:09
matthewyeah...but seems like it wanted to remove a bunch more than that...kwallet, etc...07:10
geniimatthew Are you using xfce4 ?07:10
matthewgenii, nope, kde 3.5.507:10
geniibizarre07:10
matthewwith qt 3.3.607:10
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geniistill scouring ...brb07:12
zahnzahello, i am having some problems with my wirless card and was wondering if anyone could help07:12
matthewgenii, take as long as you want. I'll be up all night long...07:12
geniiheh07:13
zahnzaanyone?07:14
geniiThere are so many unresolved dependencies (many of them seem non-crucial) ... I would try an apt-get update to see if it can be resolved automatically07:14
matthewokey doke...brb07:15
matthew!anyone07:15
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:15
geniiOddly enough there is nothing in the entire mess which indicates some deficiencies in the X system LOL07:15
matthewhow ironic07:15
matthewIt looks the same to me...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36953/07:16
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geniiOK checking it BRB07:18
geniiNo it definitely is a shorter list07:18
geniiWhat remains is almost exclusively mozilla and OO stuff now07:19
zahnzathe card i have is an awll3026 and it works fine when i am close to the router but when i go to another room i can't connect, the computer can see the accespoint fine, but hangs when it tries to connect, i know that it's no out of the range for the card because it workd fine on the same machine running windows07:19
matthewzahnza, do you have many christmas ornaments up?07:20
zahnzaaccess point*07:20
zahnzanone07:20
geniimatthew OK, right now what X driver are you using? The ATI one?07:20
zahnzano that big of a fan of christmas07:21
zahnzanot*07:21
matthewzahnza, christmas ornaments degrade wireless signals.07:21
zahnzayeah, im sure07:21
zahnzabecause they creater their own signal, its a plot by the gov. to control our minds07:22
matthewgenii, yes, the ati one07:22
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matthewzahnza, I'm not kidding.07:22
geniiOK, try the glinfo command again07:22
zahnzabasically what i am asking is if there is anyway to boost the signal strength07:22
zahnzaon the card itself07:22
geniizahnza Get an antenna with a Db booster07:23
matthewgenii, glinfo? I've never tried that before. Anyways, it comes back with: bash: glinfo: command not found07:23
zahnzawell i shouldnt need one because it works with windows07:23
matthewzahnza, then use windows07:23
zahnzaso what ever the problem is, its on the linux side07:23
geniiOK it maybe the other command lemme look it up again07:23
matthewzahnza, ok, I'm sorry. my bad.07:23
matthewgenii, ok07:23
zahnzayou're a really great help thanks07:23
geniimatthew sorry glxinfo (forgot the x)07:24
DaSkreechzahnza: Is that sarcasm?07:24
matthewglxinfo: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE__07:24
geniibah same crap07:24
zahnzano, i really appreciate the level of maturity and help i am recieving07:24
geniimatthew OK gimme a few minutes gonna research that lib a bit07:24
matthewzahnza, the reason you haven't gotten help is cause nobody knows, or they're helping someone else07:24
matthewgenii, thanks so much!07:25
zahnzathat's fine, but that does not mean you have to be an ass07:25
geniiI got nothing better to do atm :)07:25
matthew!language07:25
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:25
matthew!etiquette07:25
ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)07:25
matthew!attitude07:25
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:25
zahnzasorry07:25
matthewno prob07:25
zahnzathat doesnt many you have to be rude07:25
matthewI get like that too...as you witnessed07:25
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matthewgenii, good to know that I rank above nothing, but below something...lol07:26
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DaSkreechzahnza: What's the problem?07:26
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zahnzai have a wireless card (awll3026) and it works fine when i am close to the router but when i go to another room i can't connect, the computer can see the accespoint fine, but hangs when it tries to connect, i know that it's no out of the range for the card because it workd fine on the same machine running windows07:27
Hoso001Is it possible to emulate a recent version of itunes ?07:27
geniimatthew try apt-get install libglide3-dev then re-run the glxinfo07:27
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DaSkreechHoso001: install amarok07:28
Hoso001I need to place some DRM protected music07:28
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matthewit sets libglide up, but I found this in the middle: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process07:28
DaSkreechdid you read !wireless ?07:28
DaSkreechHoso001: Ah then you need to install itunes I'd suspect07:28
zahnzanot yet07:28
matthewgenii, and I get the same old undefined symbol garbage...oh well...07:28
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DaSkreech!wireless | zahnza07:29
ubotuzahnza: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:29
geniizahnza There may be some smtp command you can run to boost your cards signal strength but offhand I wouldn't know it. You may want to google for smtp plus chipset or similar07:29
zahnzaalright07:29
DaSkreechThey hsould have list of known cards with issues and possible workarounds07:29
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geniimatthew The lock thing means 2 prrocesses are trying to run apt07:29
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matthewhmm, I don't have anything else up that's using apt...only apt-get.07:30
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MukiEXI made a simple shell script, but KDE only sees it as a plain text document.07:30
geniiDo you perhaps have aptitude or similar open in X?07:30
MukiEXIs there a way to make it double-clickable?07:30
matthewno sir07:30
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geniisNtp not smtp sorry07:30
matthewI've got Xchat, SwiftFox, Skype, and the CLI07:30
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notechMukiEX: did you make it executable?07:31
matthewrunning atm07:31
MukiEXnotech : yes07:31
MukiEXI renamed it .sh , but KDE just shows at as a shell script with contents of a Plain Text Document07:31
geniimatthew and still same glxinfo "symbol not found" or similar?07:31
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matthewglxinfo: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE__07:32
geniimatthew OK more research needed :) afk07:32
notechMukiEX: what's the first line in it?07:32
matthewagain...lol07:32
matthewanything I can do?07:33
MukiEXecho "Making Directories"07:33
MukiEXIt's all commands, and it was made entirely in nano07:33
notechMukiEX: the first line of a bassh script must start #!/bin/sh07:33
geniilooks like yer not the only one with this prob..eg: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/625895/an/0/page/207:34
MukiEXnotech : Is there a way to make it open an xterm window and run its commands from it?07:34
MukiEX*run all subsequent commands from it07:34
MukiEX*in it07:34
notechMukiEX: dunno, might ask in #bash07:34
MukiEXThanks, notech =307:34
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JucatoMukiEX: in Konqueror, right-click on the file, select Properties, in the Permissions tab, is [ ]  Executable enabled/checked?07:34
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matthewgenii, yeah, but unlike him, I've got someone to help me...I hate it when nobody responds on forums...07:35
MukiEXJucato : Yes, but notech already solved my issue =307:35
Jucatook07:35
geniiheh07:36
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matthewaw, c'mon, I know your blushing, lol07:36
matthewyou're07:36
matthewso, anyway, any luck?07:36
geniiLooks like a known bug: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2005/09/msg00492.html07:37
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DaSkreechKeyhole?07:37
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geniiSomething to do with xlibmesa-dri apparently07:38
matthewso, what can I do? apt-get remoce xlibmesa-dri?07:38
matthewor --purge?07:38
genii1 minute07:39
matthewokey doke07:39
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geniiubuntu version of these libraries seem tied in to libosmesa6-dev07:39
matthewwould that make a difference since I'm using kubuntu?07:40
geniiinterestingly apt-cache search xlibmesa returns openoffice packages LOL07:40
matthewhmmm, weird07:40
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shinobi2anyone got a guide to open up a mac opticial mouse?07:41
shinobi2i don't see screws07:41
matthewgenii, seems like it...07:41
geniiWell perhaps try to install that package and see if it's already on etc07:41
matthewshinobi2, try using a flat-head screwdriver to wedge into the gap on the side and rotate...not absolutely sure though07:42
geniiI'm pretty sure by now that the gl probs are tied in with the mesa system07:42
matthewgenii, E: Couldn't find package xlibmesa07:42
matthewoh wait07:42
geniilibosmesa6-dev07:42
matthewh/o07:42
DaSkreechAnyone uses OO.o?07:43
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geniiDaSkreech Yes,07:43
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DaSkreechCan I put a list of sheets in the side bar for OO calc?07:43
geniiboth windoze and linux versions07:43
matthewI want you to check this out first, ok?07:43
rizal_my laptop can't produce sounds, what should I do?07:44
DaSkreech!sound07:44
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin07:44
geniiDaSkreech Sorry, dunno :(07:44
geniimatthew More pastebin?07:44
matthewgenii, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36955/07:44
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matthewoh yeah, more pastebin07:44
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genii-pastebin:)07:44
matthewhope you're not on a dial-up connection07:44
matthewlol07:44
genii-pastebinnah07:44
genii-pastebinoc307:44
DaSkreechBlast07:45
matthew10Mbps Cable here07:45
rizal_I'm using Kubuntu, is it the same with ubuntu?07:45
matthewmoderately slow compared to the rest of the world...except Africa07:45
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DaSkreechmatthew: Afrika :)07:46
genii-pastebinmatthew OK, looks like this one may resolve the libgl1-mesa-glide3 stuff07:46
Jucato!kubuntu | rizal_07:46
uboturizal_: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE07:46
matthewok, I'm going for it07:46
rizal_thanks07:46
rizal_!sound07:46
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin07:46
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matthewIf this works, I will wax your car for a year!07:46
matthewlol07:46
matthewand possibly bear your children07:46
genii-pastebinWell, my bicycle LOL07:46
matthewrofl07:46
genii-pastebinmatthew we still need to see about resloving the gl crash etc07:47
matthewbitchin', looks like it worked...nother pastebin coming your way!07:47
matthewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36956/07:48
genii-pastebinOK cool. Now try with the ATI driver the program that was crashing the GL system earlier and lemme know how it goes :)07:49
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matthewgenii-pastebin, I just did glxgears, and it worked for a little while, then the gears look like they were caught on something (I know, I know) and got this message in the CLI: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).07:49
matthewvesa?07:49
genii-pastebinvesa is last resort but may eventually be the solution07:50
matthewor a reinstall of edgy...07:50
matthewthat's kinda like a "Final Solution"07:50
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genii-pastebinWeird that it worked for a bit then crashed07:51
matthewworks for a little over 3 seconds...07:51
AdlaiI've got a fresh kubuntu install and I can't figure out DRI with a radeon x140007:51
matthewjsyk07:51
Adlaidoes anyone have a link to that?07:51
matthewAdlai, DRI?07:51
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genii-pastebinadlai 1 minute, yes07:51
Adlaithanks07:52
Adlaimatthew, direct rendering infrastructure07:52
Adlaihardware rendering07:52
matthewah, no help there!07:52
genii-pastebinadlai http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19013307:52
laalithahi I am new to kubuntu and I nee some help07:52
matthewAdlai, genii-pastebin is the man!07:52
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Adlaithanks a million07:52
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revolutionstudioanyone here ever use truecrypt?07:52
laalithahow do I install firefox07:52
geniiheh forgot about the nick LOL07:52
geniilaalitha apt-get install firefox07:53
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laalithathanks07:53
matthewlol07:53
geniilaalitha you may want to use sudo before the apt-get part07:53
matthewlaalitha, sudo apt-get install firefox-bin?07:53
matthewnever mind, just do whatever genii tells you...lol07:54
laalithawhen I try to remove some programs from add/remove it closes down suddenly07:54
laalithawhy is that07:54
revolutionstudioneed to know how to email an encrypted file that was made with truecrypt07:54
geniimatthew OK, my next step is to try the other driver from before...you will need to do the reconfigure etc etc07:54
matthewwhich driver? the fglrx one?07:55
geniilaalitha what is the user name you are logged on as?07:55
laalithalaalitha07:55
geniimatthew Yup07:55
laalithawhy?07:55
matthewalrighty, brb07:55
geniilaalitha when you run the add-remove program does it ask you for a password?07:55
laalithano07:56
laalithait  just opens07:56
Adlaiwhat's better, adept or synaptic (I know there will be opinions on either side...)07:56
geniilaalitha Reason I asked is because some ppl try to run as root, it causes probs07:56
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matthewgenii, hmm, got this error: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process07:56
laalithagenii firefox is missing i07:56
geniilaalitha Perhaps try from the program Adept or Aptitude instead07:56
laalithaok07:57
AdlaiI'm used to doing commandline installs07:57
geniilaalitha OK 1 minute I need to look the exact name07:57
matthewgenii, I think it's firefox-bin07:57
laalithaI typed firefox-bin didnot work07:57
geniiI think it's mozilla-firefox07:58
laalithaok 1 min07:58
Adlaiwhy don't you just apt-cache search firefox07:58
geniilaalitha When I do apt-cache search it spits back just "firefox". Have you dona ap-get update   yet?07:59
laalithano07:59
laalithai didn't know that07:59
Adlaialright, my problem is that the composite extension is enabled, disabling direct rendering, but the composite extension isn't even specified in xorg.conf07:59
geniimatthew Weird, it's saying again 2 progs are tryin to use apt-get08:00
geniimatthew ps ax|grep apt08:00
laalithadoing it now08:00
Adlainever mind, found it online08:00
matthewgenii,08:00
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matthew 4127 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher watch --syslog08:00
matthew 8656 pts/2    R+     0:00 grep apt08:00
matthewgenii, killall apt-index-watcher?08:01
geniimatthew Ah OK, it's doing an automatic look for possible program updates etc08:01
chupiequestion.. mounting a windows network share.. how do i?08:01
chupiei have samba installed08:01
matthewthat's weird...08:01
laalithaok genii firefox is installing thanks08:01
chupiebut.. smbmount doesn't work...?08:01
geniilaalitha Good :) Gl;ad to help08:01
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laalithaone more thing I cannot get online using my lan08:02
matthewI just did an apt-get update...08:02
matthewthat's prob what that's all about...08:02
earl_can anyone recommend a good batch mp3 tagging program?08:02
earl_i've been told to use cowbell, but i seem to be having trouble with it08:02
laalithait's detected and is in the network devices as enabled08:02
RoKFiTeasytag08:02
geniimatthew It's a cron thing where it just checks periodically08:02
matthewah...ok, how long will it take?08:03
earl_can easytag get tags off the internet?08:03
geniionly a minute or two normally08:03
matthewI probably don't want to interrupt it, huh?08:03
earl_i.e. - i don't want to do it myself08:03
RoKFiTi'm not sure, but i do not think so, but again i'm not sure08:03
earl_bah08:03
RoKFiTpossibly though08:03
RoKFiTi would check08:03
RoKFiTits a good program08:03
earl_k08:03
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geniiYou should see on the desktop after a green dot or whatever on bottom right where it says "system is up to date" or whatever when you hover on it after08:03
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earl_cowbell seems good too, it just doesn't seem to like that my music is on a FAT partition08:04
matthewok, I'll wait...08:04
matthewI wish the superkaramba icon didn't look so much like the adept notifier icon...but that's just me...08:04
geniimatthew I think I would recommend a reboot if it still hangs with the lockfile msgs08:05
matthewafter it gets done with the look-around?08:05
geniimatthew Yes. It may have hung without removing the lockfile if an ap-get etc was terminated early08:06
matthewok, here goes nothing...08:06
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geniiI'll be around still :)08:06
laalithagenii can you tell me a good network manager08:07
laalithawhich will handle both lan and wlan08:07
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laalithaconnections08:07
rizal_!mp308:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:07
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geniilaalitha Mostly I use more diagnostic stuff like nmap08:08
geniilaalitha but you may find it suitable08:08
laalithaI'll try that08:09
geniiknmap is the KDE package for it08:09
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matthewk, I'm back up...08:09
matthewgonna try the reconfig now...08:09
geniimatthew wb :) OK, with the alternate driver right?08:09
matthewoh, and for as long as I could see, my cpu was pegged 100%. What's that all about? You know what? Never mind. Lets get this done first. lol08:10
geniifglrx08:10
xsachahttp://www.google.com/trends?q=beryl%2C+kubuntu  lol08:10
genii100% cpu looks like some memory leak08:11
chupieok, well fixed the smb prob.. ok.. now another question.. lol, how could i make it so my network drives are mounting when i boot?08:11
xsachalooks like an infinite loop :O08:11
matthewok, restarting xserver...hold onto your boots08:11
geniichupie you can add a fstab entry with filesystem type as smbfs08:11
chupiekk.. well i noticed when i mounted them just a second ago.. even tho i did have the password option.. it asked me again for the password08:12
geniichupie If you don't mind some insecurity you could purposely set the passwords to be null08:13
chupieyeah, i was just thinking about doing that08:13
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Adlaiglxinfo gets me "unable to open display (null)", anyone know?08:13
geniieg: smbpasswd -n username08:13
xsachaAdlai: DISPLAY=:0.0 glxinfo08:14
geniiadlai no X server window it can use08:14
Adlaiconnection refused by server08:14
geniiadlai is this a remote X session?08:14
Adlaino08:14
Adlaiit's a fairly fresh local install08:15
geniiadlai try sudo before the command then08:15
AdlaiI'm root08:15
xsachaahhh08:15
xsachadont run it as root08:15
geniiIt should not let you have an X session as root by default08:15
xsacharun it as user you logged in with08:15
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geniiunless you messed with the xdm08:15
Adlaimmkay08:16
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Adlaiweird08:16
Adlaiworks fine that way on gentoo08:16
matthewgenii, ok, I rebooted with the fglrx drivers...it froze, so I restarted, and then reconfigged to use the ati driver...08:16
matthewfglrx is just not working...08:17
geniimatthew Well, it is the driver for the later series so I thought it likely wouldn't but good to try anyways08:17
Adlaimatthew, what have you done so far?08:17
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geniimatthew What slot is the rage128?08:18
xsachaa rage128?08:18
matthewgenii, agp08:18
xsachawith fglrx drivers :S08:19
laalithagenii knmap is not available in apt-get08:19
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geniilaalitha Are you using kubuntu or regular ubuntu?08:20
matthewxsacha, I know, I know08:20
xsachause r128 driver for rage128? unless there is some really ancient ati driver that supports rage128 :S the lowest on proprietary ati supported list is 850008:20
geniimatthew Found some stuff relating to this and version-specific stuff of Xorg and this card08:20
Adlaianyone know why desktop switching would be very very slow?08:20
Adlaiit takes forever to switch, and then takes even longer to draw the window decorations08:21
laalithakubuntu08:21
Adlaithis is a fairly fresh install08:21
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DaveQBAdlai  out of memory...using swap08:21
laalithaI downloaded the tar file knmap 2-108:21
Adlai...I have a gig of memory08:21
DaveQBAdlai check you memory and swap usage08:21
Adlaiwould it really be using that much?08:21
DaveQBoh08:21
DaveQBsomething might be eating it all up08:21
Adlaiyeah it's not even close08:21
geniilaalitha Hmm OK. Apt-cache search knmap on my box shows it available. You may need to expand your /etc/apt/sources.list to include more repositories08:22
AdlaiI have over half a gig left unused, and no swap being used08:22
DaveQBAdlai that is odd then08:22
laalithahow do I do that08:22
AdlaiI know08:22
geniimatthew The url for this info (bsd specific but applicable) http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2005-May/002111.html08:22
AdlaiI enabled direct rendering, and did the Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" in xorg.conf, which is supposed to fix a slow 2D system08:22
matthewlaalitha, genii, how would I use the r128 driver? I found a site that purported to tell me how to do it...but I ended up with a dead xserver.08:23
DaveQBi have never had to do that...I cant think of what else to try off the top off my head08:23
matthewchecking the url now, genii08:23
geniilaalitha To include all available repositories, open up that file in kwrite or nano etc and remove the # from before all the lines starting with word "deb"08:24
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laalithaok08:25
geniilaalitha then do an apt-get update   then do an ap-cache search knmap and see if it appears08:25
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Adlaiany idea about slow desktop switch and redraw of window decorations?08:25
matthewbrb08:26
geniimatthew Basically the 6.8.2 X distro has no 3D for rage128 is the gist08:26
laalithawhat r all these packages that install when I do an apt-get update08:26
HymnToLifelaalitha, nothing installs when you run apt-get update08:26
geniilaalitha the apt-get update is getting all the lists of available packages you will be able to install08:26
HymnToLifeapt-get jus download the list of installable packages08:27
laalithaok thanks08:27
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laalithaI got a lot to learn08:27
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laalithaok knmap is installing08:28
laalithathanks genii08:28
kokjeany plans of porting OOo 2.1 to dapper ?08:28
geniilaalitha No probs08:28
RoKFiTdoes anyone know when 64bit users will see the flash plugin?08:29
ikirtthere isn't one08:30
ikirtuse 32 bit08:30
HymnToLifeRoKFiT, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava08:30
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ikirtand get flash9 beta08:30
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RoKFiTon fedora i was having some problems with firefox closing lost with the 32bit version of the plugin08:30
ikirti just had the same issue @ work with fc6 64bit08:31
ikirti have to install 32bit ff and install flash9 beta plugin08:31
RoKFiTand it fixed?08:31
zahnzai have a wireless card (awll3026) and it works fine when i am close to the router but when i go to another room i can't connect, the computer can see the accespoint fine, but hangs when it tries to connect, i know that it's no out of the range for the card because it workd fine on the same machine running windows08:31
ikirtyup08:31
zahnzaanyone here have any ideas?08:31
ikirtwatched youtube quite a bit last night08:31
RoKFiTi'll give it a try08:32
RoKFiTwhere did you get the beta from08:32
matthewgenii, ok, I ate some sweet and sour pork and read the page...I'm downloading the r128.tgz now...08:32
ikirtone sec let me see if i can find it08:32
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HymnToLifeRoKFiT, http://labs.adobe.com/08:33
RoKFiTare you using 32bit firefox?08:33
zahnzai have check all of the wifi docs on the ubuntu website with no luck08:33
laalithagenii I am getting this "Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"08:33
geniimatthew give me some time to look at the docs08:33
laalithaI launched by typing knmap on the prompt08:33
geniilaalitha For nmap??08:33
laalithayeah08:33
laalithahere's the whole error08:34
geniilaalitha Try opeing it from inside KDE instead, it should now be there08:34
ikirthttp://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/08:34
matthewokey doke...08:34
ikirtyes 32bit firefox08:34
RoKFiToh you do08:34
RoKFiTsee i want to use 64, because 32 kept closing with flash player08:35
ikirtthere isn't a flash player for 64bit firefox08:35
laalithaok it works fine08:35
zahnzadoes anyone know if there is a command or graphic utility that would allow me to boost the signal stength of the card?08:35
geniimatthew I think that may be a bsd-specific hack so don't install anything until I figure it out first LOL08:35
AdlaiRoKFiT, check out the flashblock plugin for firefox08:35
RoKFiThow and where08:35
ikirtflashblock ?08:35
Adlaiaddons.mozilla.org08:35
chupiewell back with another question.. what is a way to burn dvd videos?08:35
ikirthe's trying to get flash to work08:36
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Adlaiit uses javascript to prevent firefox from loading flash unless you tell it to08:36
Adlaifixed a problem I had where some websites would force tons of flash to open and bog down firefox08:36
ikirtfirst he needs to get the proper flash plugin installed08:36
Adlaibut yes, RoKFiT, you won't get flash working with 64-bit firefox08:36
RoKFiToh08:37
RoKFiTso remove firefox and install 32bit?08:37
Adlaiyou want firefox-bin08:37
ikirtyes08:37
RoKFiTwhat is firefox-bin08:37
ikirtdownload it from their site08:37
ikirtjust 32bit version08:37
geniilaalitha :)08:37
matthewgenii, not gonna do anything I don't understand that I don't clear with you first...08:37
zahnzaanyone have a suggestion?08:37
matthewgenii, besides, the .tgz file isn't downloading...08:38
geniimatthew I'm looking for a debian-specific fix08:38
RoKFiTAdlai: do you know when a 64bit version of the plugin will be available?08:38
matthewsweet!08:38
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matthewI can't believe how much "work" this has turned into...08:38
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matthewlol, like the name change!08:39
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laalithagenii how do I manage my lan and wlan with knmap? It seems like a port scanning software.08:40
AdlaiRoKFiT, nope08:41
zahnzadoes anyone here even care about trying to help?08:41
Adlaidon't think anyone does08:41
zahnza\08:41
Adlaidon't worry about it though, 64-bit ff isn't all that faster anyway08:41
RoKFiTsomeone told me about june before when vista comes out08:41
RoKFiTokay how do i install 32bit firefox08:41
matthewnope, coming out in January;  I work for a Computer Building/Repair shop08:42
RoKFiTfrom adept_manager?08:42
acatalanI have two users, one the sound works, kmix says its using ALSA.  the user where the sound doesnt work, the kmix hardware link says its using ALSAOSS.  where is this damn setting?08:42
matthew!language08:42
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:42
acatalanheh, sure.08:42
matthewI get your frustration though08:42
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matthewI've been trying to enable 3d acceleration for my "ancient" video card for the last 6 hours or so.08:43
matthewI've had to rebuild my xserver about 10 times...08:43
RoKFiTi believe you need drivers08:43
genii-researchinmatthew I found some stuff but it ain't for the faint of heart08:43
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matthewI'll take it!08:43
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geniimatthew http://www.reades.com/radeon.html08:44
matthewgenii, do you understand the steps involved?08:44
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geniiWell it's pretty straight-forward but involves some compiling which a lot of ppl don't normally need to be doing08:44
laalithazahnza I from my experience there's no sw to boost the signal strength08:44
matthewgenii, I know how to compile.08:44
matthewmore or less08:45
matthewcompiled the kernel a couple of times...08:45
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geniimatthew The problem is that the r128 drivers which have good 3D support are basically embedded within the GATOS stuff which is tv-card support.08:46
matthewGATOS? is that another distro?08:46
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geniimatthew no, gatos is a set of drivers and applications which let you use the TV functions for instance of all-in-wonder cards08:46
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RoKFiTwhat was that plugin i just installed?  flashbox08:47
RoKFiTwhat is that08:47
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AdlaiRoKFiT, flashblock08:47
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laalitha%c4 <zahnza> you might want to check your driver for the card08:47
RoKFiTflashblock, what is that08:47
matthewgenii, oh. so, what's the problem? I've got 80 gigs of free space...08:47
Adlaiit blocks flash on a page and puts an icon there that you can click to see the flash item08:47
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Adlaiit won't fix your problem; I misunderstood your problem at first08:47
RoKFiToh08:47
RoKFiThow do i remove it?08:47
Adlaiyou want to do something along the lines of apt-cache search firefox08:47
Adlaiand then look for one that says firefox-bin or some such08:48
geniimatthew so it works out that to get the best ati driver which has gl and 3D support involves getting the ati.2 driver installed from the gatos stuff08:48
Adlairemove it by using firefox's own addon thingy08:48
Adlaitools > addons08:48
RoKFiTwell thanks for the help, and bbl.08:48
geniimatthew Well if you have some time and don't mind getting your hands dirty I'd try the solution found there then :)08:48
matthewgenii, oh, so I need to install the GATOS "suite", then that will have the drivers for my card?08:48
zahnzathanks anyway, oh yeah and fuck you mathew and genii08:48
geniimatthew yes, exactly08:49
matthewok, I'll give it a shot...08:49
matthewthanks a lot!08:49
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geniimatthew I'll be around maybe an hour if you want to check in ane lemme know how it goes :)08:49
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laalitha<zahnza> you may want to check this out   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29584308:50
matthewok...I'm downloading the kernel source right now...might as well get the sweet hotness...08:51
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geniiMatthew Supplementary page for additional help and info : http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php08:52
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matthewgenii, seriously, you rock!08:53
geniimatthew Well I'm stubborn when it comes to figuring out why things don't work how they are supposed to LOL08:53
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matthewyeah. You kicked some major butt tonight. Seriously, this is how the Linux movement stays in motion, it's because of people like you who are willing to sacrifice hours of time to get the right answers.08:55
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geniiWell there have been many times I thought some issue had no solution but with some help it was eventually solved.08:56
geniiOne of the best things about linux mentality is that you need to know to some degree how the insides work08:56
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geniiI need to go make a coffee-run but will return :)08:58
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matthewgenii-away, I'll be here08:58
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genii-awayIf you want to make a deb package from the source perhaps look here as well: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003&highlight=checkinstall09:02
genii-awayOK, really really getting coffee now :) afk09:02
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crazyphirecan anyone help me get my wireless connection setup on kubuntu?09:03
crazyphireit says connection failed even though all the info is correct09:04
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crazyphirei've been trying to find good compatibility with my laptop and linux, a little suppot would be much appreciate09:05
crazyphirebeen at it for a few days now09:05
matthewgenii-away, I'm having some trouble here, probably cause the ati guys are using 2.4.17 and I'm using 2.6.18...I can't find "Console Drivers" directory anywhere in the Linux Kernel Configuration.09:07
matthewI'm going to download the 2.4.17 kernel and do it their way...09:10
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matthewo...k...I'm not able to d/l the 2.4 kernel...how odd.09:11
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crazyphirematthew are you familiar with linux?09:12
matthewok, nvm, got it working09:12
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matthewyes, I am moderately capable. Why do you ask?09:13
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crazyphirecan you help me with my wireless network?09:13
crazyphireit wont connect even though the settings are correct09:13
sampo-No, if you dont tell what it's wrong with it09:13
matthewcrazyphire, uh, ok...as far as I can09:13
crazyphirei wish i knew09:13
matthew!anyone09:13
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:13
matthewlol09:13
crazyphireit simply says Connection failed.09:13
crazyphireit won't even connect when there is no WEP security09:14
matthewcan you see the network?09:14
crazyphireits strange because it seems to detect my network card09:14
crazyphireyeah09:14
matthewok...gimme a sec09:14
sampo-Did it work before ?09:14
matthewcrazyphire, I'm assuming that you're using Wireless Lan Assistant09:15
matthew?09:15
crazyphireyes09:15
sampo--->09:15
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crazyphireit has worked on regular Ubuntu just fine, and XP09:15
lucahi everyone09:15
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matthewmake sure that you don't have your eth0 enabled under System Settings->Network Settings09:15
matthewgenii-caffeinate, hey, I'm gonna try it with the 2.4 kernel, since the 2.6 is so different...09:15
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geniimatthew Well that is a bit much09:16
crazyphireit is disabled09:16
geniimatthew I dunno if I'd downgrade from a 2.6 just so my video card would do GL LOL09:16
crazyphireath0 is enabled09:16
crazyphiremy wireless interface09:16
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matthewcrazyphire, is your eth0 enabled?09:16
crazyphireno, its disabled09:17
matthewgenii, why not?09:17
crazyphireand i cant select either of them09:17
matthewcrazyphire, are you using dhcp for the wireless?09:17
crazyphireyes09:17
geniimatthew well, you'll lose the udev features for one thing09:17
matthewcrazyphire, you need to be administrator for that09:17
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crazyphirematthew: i am admin09:17
luca__umph crashed09:17
matthewgenii, at the risk of sounding ignorant, what's udev?09:17
matthewcrazyphire, hmmm09:17
crazyphirei entered root password before using wireless lan ass.09:17
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geniimatthew Basically udev creates all the stuff in your /dev directory each boot depending on what actual stuff you have09:18
matthewcrazyphire, no, you need to go to the Kmenu -> System Settings->Network Settings09:18
luca__anyone using intel graphics cards here?09:18
matthewgenii, like if I swap in hardware?09:18
crazyphireluca__ im in network settings right now09:19
geniimatthew previously with 2.4 and below there were a bunch of static dev entries09:19
geniimatthew Yup09:19
matthewgenii, I'm beginning to see where you're coming from...maybe I'll just get a cheap-o nvidia and call it good09:19
matthewok, 2.4 is off...I give up, I just want to sleep...huuuuuuuh!09:19
crazyphireokay, kubuntu has seemed to configure itself finally09:19
geniimatthew Well, I'm stubborn....give me some time to see if I can find a binary for your kernel version of ati.209:19
luca__crazyphire  am trying to substitute the default i810 graphcis driver with the i91509:19
matthewgenii, I love you.09:20
matthewthe end09:20
geniimatthew what kernel? 2.6-10 or so?09:20
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matthew2.6.48-10-generic09:20
matthewdefault w/ edgy09:20
luca__crazyphire that's because the i810 does not support suspend, which means it is useless for me :-P09:20
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crazyphireluca__ what in the world are you talking about?09:21
matthewcrazyphire, your wireless is working?09:21
crazyphirematthew: yes09:21
matthewcrazyphire, you responded to luca__ instead of me...I think.09:21
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crazyphirewhat does it mean when a popup error says "connection to sound server failed. cpu overload" or something09:21
matthewcrazyphire, cool, but watch out. My wireless used to flip on and off, seemingly randomly09:21
luca__crazyphire, matthew, probable ;)09:22
geniimatthew OK one of the earlier links has the way to put in the binaries http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php   I would likely untar it somewhere safe first tho then copy over the ati.2 file09:23
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ddjQuestion to all: Does anyone here experience keyboard lockups with PS/2 keyboards? e.g. You boot the system and the PS/2 keyboard does not react at all in Ubuntu (no problem with other OS) ... ?09:23
geniiddj Perhaps ensure the mouse and keyboard are not swapped09:24
crazyphire:| my computer just powered of09:24
crazyphireoff09:24
crazyphireis kubuntu stable?09:24
ddj@genii: as I said, no problems with other OS09:24
ddj@crazy: maybe your computer just got too hot?09:25
geniiddj In some bios especially dell/compaq/hp as well, there is an option for ps2 port for things like auto/off/on  etc. For some *nix it must be explicitly on and not auto09:25
ddj@genii: How come that other distros (SuSE 9.2, SUSE 10.0, SUSE 10.2, Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper", etc.) have no problems with it?09:26
crazyphire"sound server fatal error. cpu overload, aborting"09:26
crazyphireanyone know what that means?09:26
matthewgenii, ok, it looks like I need XFree 4.3.0?09:26
ddj@genii: I only experience these lockups with 6.10 "Edgy" ... pretty weird.09:26
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geniiddj Well, yeah that is odd. Can't hurt to check your bios for something like that tho.09:27
geniimatthew What ver right now?09:27
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matthewThey used 4.3.0 but when I apt-get install XFree, I get nothing...09:27
matthewgenii, couldn't find package XFree09:28
crazyphireanyone??09:28
geniimatthew OK gimme a minute09:28
spitwiseXorg?09:28
matthewXFree86, maybe?09:28
spitwiseis Xfree still used?09:28
Adlaiwhy would you want xfree86?09:28
matthewThat's the problem with using old hardware...you have you use old software...09:28
spitwisecrazyphire: what processes are/were running?09:28
matthewAdlai, Because I need it to install ati.2 binaries09:29
crazyphirenone i just booted my computer09:29
Adlaiugh09:29
spitwisei thought the switch was made to xorg09:29
Adlaicount me out09:29
Adlainight all09:29
spitwisecpu overload right after boot?09:29
matthewnight09:29
crazyphireyeah09:29
crazyphire"sound server fatal error. cpu overload, aborting"09:29
matthewcrazyphire, if you were using windows, I would say virus...but as it stands...09:29
spitwisewell 'sound' seemsto be the keyword here ..09:29
crazyphirei dont think sound is working09:30
crazyphirei dont hear anything when i boot or login, should i?09:30
spitwisewhat os?09:30
crazyphirekubuntu09:30
matthewcrazyphire, when you login, yes.09:30
geniiI need to remember where X drivers are in debian distros09:30
matthewcrazyphire, it's a sort of "doo doo doo" sound.09:31
matthewgenii, /etc/X11?09:31
crazyphireeerg, its so hard to find a linux OS compatible with toshiba sattelite09:31
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geniimatthew I'm ssh'd into a debian box of mine from this XP machine to try and track it09:32
spitwise}:/09:32
geniimatthew I think it needs to be a lib dir of some sort09:32
matthewgenii, you kick total ass.09:32
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matthewI know, I know.09:32
matthew!language | matthew09:32
ubotumatthew: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:32
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spitwiseheh ubotu09:33
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buzgnomefreak: just thought i'd share how i fixed my kernel booting issues: building the initramfs with yaird did the job09:33
crazyphirecan anyone help me setup my sound card? :s09:33
netmonkplease, forgive my ignorant question. I use Kubuntu on a laptop and noticed it loads lvm, mdmadm-raid and evms. Do I need those?09:33
buz(i did report that ;-)09:34
geniimatthew Crap I forgot that box is using CLI only LOL09:34
ddj@netmonk: probably not ....09:34
matthewlol09:34
geniimatthew You have any contents in /usr/lib/X1 ?09:35
matthewwant to ssh into mine? I'll install ssh server...09:35
geniimatthew You have any contents in /usr/lib/X11 ?09:35
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matthewwhen I cd there and ls I get this: config  locale  rgb.txt  x11perfcomp  xkb  xsm09:35
netmonkddj, is there a way that I can check if i'm using them?09:35
geniimatthew Basically you could find where the driver needs to go from something like locate vesa|grep X11|more09:35
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matthewh/p09:36
matthewh/o09:36
spitwisedocs say the sound card on a toshiba satellite works 'out of box'09:37
ddj@netmonk:  Unless you setup some logical volumes on your laptop you probably are definitely not using them. During boot the OS probably will just do a basic check and then exit from the scripts without actvating anything ...09:37
geniimatthew Most likely somewhere like /usr/share/lib/X11 or similar. lib somewhere in the hierarchy most likely09:37
geniiafk a minute, some other boxes beeping for me09:37
netmonkddj, I have 4 partitions + one for swap. I did a basic install of Kubuntu. I suppose I am not using these services...09:38
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ddj@netmonk: Yes, you're probably not using them. It's probably safe to remove them from the boot process .... Might speed things up a little.09:40
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netmonkddj, thats my idea :)09:40
netmonkwill try now :)09:40
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ddj@netmonk: There is a program called "Boot Manager" or something like that which will remove them from the boot process (point and click). However you should not "apt-get remove" them ... they might have dependencies with other stuff on the system.09:41
matthewgenii, when you're back, I found /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg-video-vesa.list09:41
geniimatthew Please do ls /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/|more    and tell me if it looks like drivers for vesa,ati et al look to be in that dir please09:42
matthew/usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-vesa09:42
netmonkddj, thank you :)09:42
matthewh/o09:42
matthewgenii, ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/: No such file or directory09:42
matthewmy X11 stuff is stored in /etc/X11, I think...this is what ls gets in there: app-defaults             xorg.conf.20061213201550  xorg.conf.fglrx-009:43
matthewcursors                  xorg.conf.20061213202039  xorg.conf.original-009:43
matthewdefault-display-manager  xorg.conf.20061213202838  Xresources09:43
matthewfonts                    xorg.conf.20061213203141  Xsession09:43
matthewrgb.txt                  xorg.conf.20061213210804  Xsession.d09:43
matthewX                        xorg.conf.20061213210846  Xsession.options09:43
matthewxinit                    xorg.conf.20061213212850  XvMCConfig09:43
matthewxkb                      xorg.conf.20061213213027  Xwrapper.config09:43
matthewxorg.conf                xorg.conf.2006121323111609:43
matthewxorg.conf~               xorg.conf.2006121323151109:43
matthewsorry about the spam!09:43
geniimatthew OK, got it09:44
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geniimatthew I am almost certain the right dir is now /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers09:44
ddj@geniii ....   /usr/lib/xorg/modules/09:45
geniiit screwed me up because no "X11" search produced a satisfactory result09:45
ddjI think that's the one you're looking for?09:45
ddjah you got it already .... sorry :)09:45
geniiddj I believe it's the one :)09:45
matthewgenii, ls reveals a driver dir09:45
matthewI love you ddj09:45
matthewboth of y'all09:45
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geniimatthew OK, so if you untarred the stuff from gatos project somewhere safe, copy the ati.2 file from in there to the dir for the drivers09:46
matthewk, h/o09:47
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geniimatthew then of course alter the xorg.conf again, do a dpkg reconfigure for X etc etc... you know the drill by now :)09:47
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geniithen glxinfo hopefully will produce a hardware render yes or similar09:47
ayeizajedigood morning everyone09:48
matthewI gotta download the gatos stuff again...09:48
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LionBGhello. I have kubuntu LTS but for some reason KDM won't start when i start the computer. I have login first and then run kdm as root. any ideas how i can fix that? already reinstalled kdm - it didn't help09:48
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geniimatthew after you get it, untar it in your home dir... then do an updatedb ... then locate ati.2 and it should tell you the exact spot you need to pull it from09:49
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matthewok...wait. I need the gatos stuff and the ati.2 binary?09:50
geniimatthew ATI-4.3.0-X.i386.tar.gz  is the file. We only need the one binary from it09:51
matthewok, sweet09:51
geniithere is a way to extract just the one file but I'm too lazy to scour the man tar page right now LOL09:51
matthewthe one for X.org 6.7.0?09:52
geniixorg 6.8.209:52
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genii(should be)09:52
matthewgenii, this is where I am: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1262909:52
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geniiOK type in X-version09:54
geniiand see what ver you have09:54
anydayhas anyone had any problems with the x1300 and ubuntu?09:54
geniianyday Yes it's a common problem09:54
geniianyday some help can be found here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19013309:54
anydayive been checking the internet for 2 days and havnt seen a fix , you know if there is one?09:55
geniianyday The instructions are for the older series but it applies09:55
matthewX-version x-version x --version not recogged, X --version not valid option09:55
geniimatthew LOL OK gimme a minute09:56
matthewbleagh, I feel so useless...09:56
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geniiIt used to be you could do X -V but every distro has to be different09:57
matthewgenii, X -version gives me X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.109:58
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geniiOK so the tar for 6.7.0 should be fine09:59
matthewok, d/l'ing now10:00
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ayeizajediis there a howto/guide on installing the latest ati driver and getting laptop displays working correctly ?10:01
kavitI upgraded to Edgy on my toshiba tecra a4 and now my cd rom drive is not being detected10:01
kavitany ideas?10:01
kavitEdgy is a hater :(10:02
matthewgenii, I d/l'ed it, untarred into /home/matthew/ati10:03
matthewonto the ati.2?10:03
geniiayeizajedi the link I gave for anyday should help you as well10:03
matthewoh wait, that was the ati.2...10:03
matthewI need sleep LOL10:03
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geniimatthew OK, so now somewhere in that dir structure is the ati.2 file/driver. So updatedb && locate ati.210:04
matthewgenii, what is updatedb?10:04
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geniimatthew then cp/wherever/it/is/ati.2 / /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers10:05
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geniiupdatedb updates the lists of what is where on your file system10:05
geniiif you don't updatedb after you change or add a lot of stuff it will give you a cached answer of what files are where10:05
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matthewok...did it...but I got no output...10:06
geniiwhat, locate ati.2 produced no result??10:07
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geniibleh10:07
eMaX_remoin10:07
matthewgenii, yeah. exactly. I ran sudo locate ati.2 by itself to confirm...I cd'ed into the /home/matthew/ati folder10:07
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matthewand I ran locate w/o sudo; same result10:08
matthewor lack thereof10:08
geniimatthew ok, so in the dir of /home/matthew/ati then do: ls -R *|grep ati|more   and see if that produces a result10:08
matthewREADME.ati.6.7.010:08
eMaX_anyone here has experiences w/ hotswapping from the drivebay in an ibm laptop?10:09
geniimatthew Well, perhaps read it to see if it's enlightening in any way LOL10:09
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matthewlol10:10
matthewwould you like me to pastebin it?10:10
matthewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36965/10:11
geniiOK good :) I am also going back to the sourceforge site shortly to d/l the file and then untar it here on the XP box to see what the hell is in it10:12
kavitWhen I try and mount my cdrom i get this10:12
kavitmount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist10:12
matthewI found a .so file entitled r128_dri10:12
matthewroflmfao10:12
kavitafter I upgraded to edgy10:12
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kavithal-device doesnt list the cdrom drive at all either10:13
kavitits all gone fubar... any ideas?10:13
wombat_Hi all10:13
geniimatthew did you download  ATI-6.7.0-exp1.i386.tar.gz   ?10:14
ddjkavit: you have a SCSI or USB cdrom ??10:14
matthewgenii, yessir10:14
wombat_can anyone help me get my web cam to work with Kopete?10:15
matthewgo into /liib/modules/dri to look at that file I found.10:15
matthew/lib/modules/dri10:15
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geniiok ...AFK, untarring and examining the file10:15
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kavitddj: it is a tecra a4 laptop with SATA hdd and cd10:16
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kavitddj: it was working fine with dapper and sarge before that10:17
geniimatthew Yup, thats the only one it can be10:17
matthewmove it to..../usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers?10:17
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ddj@KAVIT:  What does /etc/fstab say ?10:18
geniiIf there is a subdir there of dri put it there, otherwise yes10:18
matthewnot able to paste there...chmod 777?10:18
matthewchown matthew?10:18
geniimatthew just sudo cp it  :)10:18
kavitddj: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       010:18
matthewwow, really need sleep. I'm sorry10:19
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matthewI just laughed uncontrollably...I'm losing it...10:19
geniiheh :)10:19
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geniiAt least you can still laugh10:19
anydaythanks for the link on the x1300 info, still did not resolve the problem though10:19
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geniianyday :( sorry to hear10:20
ddj@KAVIT:  Change /dev/scd0 no to:  /dev/scd10:20
ddj@KAVIT:  Then try again ...10:20
kavitddj: ok... i'll give that a shot10:20
matthewok, did it10:20
matthewdpkg config?10:20
anydayi can get the module loaded fine and rendering says its running but the 2d performance is really really bad and whenever i run glxgears my system hangs10:21
geniimatthew OK so now change xorg.conf to make the driver r128_dri then dpkg reconfigure etc10:21
matthewok...h/o10:21
kavitddj: mount: special device /dev/scd does not exist10:21
ddj@KAVIT .... hmmm .... did you check the system logs? Maybe the device is called something else now?10:22
kavitddj: hal-device doesnt find a CDROM drive at all.... somehow my cdrom drive is no longer being detected10:22
kavitddj: dmesg reveals no cdrom at all10:22
ayeizajedithanks genii10:22
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geniianyday what does glxinfo report for the line reading "hardware renderer" or similar?10:23
anydayah would have to reboot10:23
ddj@KAVIT:  hmm .... try this als root:   lsmod | grep "cd"10:23
geniiayeizajedi did yu resolve your issue?10:23
matthewgenii, you know, I was looking around in /usr/lib/modules/drivers, and there doesn't seem to be any ati.so driver either...I think it's in the wrong spot...10:23
ayeizajedigenii, im just looking at the page now :) will let you know how i fare :)10:24
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matthewgenii, nvm10:24
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geniinot just /usr/lib.... xorg in there somewhere LOL10:24
kavitddj: it has loaded the cdrom driver10:24
kavitcdrom                  38944  1 sr_mod10:24
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kavitbut its not associated to any devices10:24
geniiayeizajedi OK cool10:25
ddj@KAVIT:  can you post the entire list please? As root:  lsmod  .... this should give the complete list10:25
matthewhold on, still working on it...10:26
kavitddj: do you want the whole lsmod or just the result of grep ?10:26
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krautmoin10:26
matthewthis is the directory I meant: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers10:27
wombat_can anyone please help me set up my web cam with Kopete?10:27
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ddjkavit ... the whole thing10:27
geniimatthew That should be the dir10:27
matthewok, gotta reboot...10:27
kavitddj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36967/10:28
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ddj@kavit .... as root user, can you please take a look into this file:  /var/log/dmesg .... You could do it like this: gksudo gedit /var/log/dmesg10:29
genii-aroundpossibly just do sudo dmesg|tail10:30
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eMaXre10:31
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kavitddj: sure... i will have to use kdesu and kwrite though10:31
eMaXI just recompiled my kernel and have the following problem: when booting the kernel, he says: Waiting for root filesystem...10:31
ddj@KAVIT:  kdesu kwrite /var/log/dmesg10:31
ddjor kate$10:31
ddjkate10:31
ddjshould work just as well10:32
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drakeoutlawhi all I just switched to kubuntu from ubuntu. wish I had done it a year ago10:32
ddjwhy?10:32
matthewOk, I'm back...which driver do I select? the ati one or the fglrx one?10:32
genii-aroundmatthew the r128_dri one10:32
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matthewgenii-around, it wasn't shown in the menu10:33
kavitddj: done... although cant find "cdrom" or "cd rom" in the file10:33
ddj@KAVIT:  ok, let's read that one slowly ....10:33
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geniimatthew Try then just r12810:33
matthewok...10:33
ddj@KAVIT:  early on it says stuff about ACPI and so on, right?10:33
kavitddj: yes it does10:34
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ddj@KAVIT: OK, press "Page Down" a few times, it should then all of a sudden say things about "CPU0" and stuff like that, right?10:34
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matthewit's still not showing up...10:35
kavitddj: yes it does10:35
Amelikhello...   someone can help me to configure bridging on eth0 and eth1 on  kubuntu?10:35
ddj@KAVIT: OK, now slowly ... press "Page Down" a few times until it starts talking about "PCI" ...10:35
geniimatthew Try just editing the xorg.conf file manually to replace the driver name there it's currently using with r128_dri then restart the x server10:36
kavitddj: ok done10:36
matthewI don't understand. Find+Replace all instances of ati?10:36
geniimatthew You are using the ati driver right now?10:37
matthewyes10:37
ddj@KAVIT: oK, now keep your eyes open and scroll line by line ... it should talk about "Real Time Clock" and then immediately after that it will start talking about disk and disk-like devices the kernel can see ...10:37
geniimatthew OK... so open up the xorg.conf file in an editor and look for a place where it has the display section10:37
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ddj@KAVIT:  in my case it says:  "[17179571.632000]  Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac"10:37
paulohello all10:38
kavitddj: yeah the ata2 driver is loaded...10:38
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ddj@KAVIT: and then just a few lines down it starts listing my IDE devices ... I suppose this should be similar to your SATA devices?10:38
geniimatthew That part should also have stuff like what resolutions etc10:38
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kavitddj: yeah10:38
matthewoh, ok...sorry I'm so dense tonight10:38
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ddj@KAVIT: what does it say there? Does it list some devices it sees?10:39
geniimatthew the current driver name will be there somewehere in quotes... replace where it says "ati"  with "r128_dri"10:39
matthewIt's actually in the "Device" Section, at least, that's what I see...you want me to paste it on pastebin?10:39
matthewlol10:39
geniino no thats the right section :)10:40
matthewrofl10:40
Atomshello. i have a problem, i have two sound cards, onboard and audigy, so when pc starts default is onboard, so in kde default too is onboard, how can i change default card in kde or in system ? i need onboard card too, i can not disable it10:40
kavitddj: yeah... it lists some devices... mostly my hard drive partitions... no cd rom... no scd10:40
geniimatthew It's been a while since I had to poke around in there etc so a bit rusty10:40
matthewmuch better than me...10:40
ddj@KAVIT: can you please show me what it says?10:40
matthewok, I replaced it...log out and restart X?10:41
geniiyup10:41
matthewbrb I hope10:41
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Atomsanybody ?10:41
kavitddj: sure I will post it up in a second10:41
drakeoutlaw!mailserver10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mailserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
drakeoutlaw!mail server10:42
anydaywell i check my xorg log output and im getting this, (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7). could that be my probleM?10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mail server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
geniiatoms http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=49952010:42
anydaygenii10:42
geniianyday Hello again :) You may need to put in the GL drivers, yes10:43
kavitddj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36968/10:43
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anydayi tried an apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri and they are already installed10:43
Atomsgenii tnx10:44
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geniianyday gimme a minute and I'll find the one...10:44
geniiatoms no probs10:44
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ddj@KAVIT:  how many disks have you got in your system?10:44
anydaygenii: thx10:44
matthewgenii, back, and it didn't work...had to use the ATI driver...I think the r128 driver is in the wrong dir...10:44
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ddj@KAVIT:  guessing from that output your CD-ROM might be /dev/sdb  ....10:46
geniimatthew It couldn't find it ?10:46
ddj@KAVIT: there is one line saying: "ata2: dev 0 ATAPI, max UDMA/33"10:47
kavitddj: ok i will give it a shot10:47
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ddj@KAVIT ... UDMA/33 is way too slow for a harddisk ... I am sure it must be your CD-ROM that it sees right there ...10:47
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geniimatthew crap, scroll for the channel is not long enough... do you remember the filename that resolved the glide3 issue? anyday needs the name of it10:48
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Atomsgenii didn't help, i set so my ca0106 sound card is default, but after reboot anyway onboard is default10:48
kavitddj: /dev doesn't have anything beginning with sd except sda* no sdb10:49
anydaylibgl1-mesa-glide3?10:49
geniiatoms if you look in /etc/modules, are any sound dribvers in there?10:49
geniianyday no, not that one :)10:49
matthewgenii, got it...it's libosmesa610:49
ddj@KAVIT .... hmmm ....10:49
matthewI'm moderately sure10:49
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geniimatthew thx :)10:49
matthewHow can I know that?10:49
matthewlol10:49
geniianyday - try apt-get install libosmesa6-dev10:49
Atomsgenii nop, there are no sound drivers at all10:50
ddj@KAVIT:  can you give me the output of this command:  ls -al /dev/10:50
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anydaykk lemme try brb10:50
geniiatoms OK then... put in the driver name of the secondary card there so it pre-loads10:50
matthewlooks like that just crashed anyday's box...lol? no, I don't think I will.10:51
geniiheh10:51
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geniiI think I'm getting a bit sprerad out here LOL10:51
matthewyeah, just a little...10:51
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geniimatthew OK, so if it can't find the driver... it needs to be where it can find it... if the driver is being found but crashes it...well...back to ati or vesa10:52
geniimatthew When it kicks out of X does it give an informative error msg?10:53
matthewinformative? no. not to me...let me check the syslog...10:53
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anydaygenii: ok still getting this: (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)10:54
drakeoutlaw!mail10:54
ubotumail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com10:54
eeoshi there.10:54
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Atomsgenii did't help either :(10:55
eeosI would like to install ubuntu from the net, on a pc with broadband, where there is already another distribution, but where we do not have floppy or cdrom. ho can I do it? can I do it from the iso?10:55
geniianyday OK try libglew110:55
canine_koujiI need to upgrade my ubuntu, I've the latest 6.10.10:56
geniiatoms :( Sorry, then I'm out of quick ideas10:56
Atomsehh10:56
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Atomsok then i will just disable onboard for now :(10:57
matthewgenii, (I'm almost afraid to ask)...pastebin?10:57
anydaygenii libglew1 is already the newest version.10:58
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genii-pastebinanyday  OK, I'm out of answers for the moment then10:58
anydaysorry10:58
genii-pastebinnp :)10:58
matthewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36971/10:59
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Naradahi guys; what do i need to add to sources.lst to get the new java 611:00
Naradano response in #ubuntu11:00
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matthewgenii-pastebin, there's the full version...had some problems...11:01
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matthewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36971/11:01
eeosI would like to install kubuntu from the net, on a pc with broadband, where there is already another distribution, but where we do not have floppy or cdrom. ho can I do it? can I do it from the iso?11:02
eeosI read the documetation, but did not find an appropriate install method11:02
genii-pastebinmatthew Got it... seems like no error relating to the video driver there however...a ll input devices stuff11:02
matthewhmmm, so, what does that mean?11:03
genii-pastebinmatthew Somewhere in /var/log there is x11 log... if possible pls pastebin it11:03
matthewok11:04
genii-pastebin like /var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar11:06
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matthewhmmm, can't find it...maybe in a different location?11:07
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genii-pastebinmatthew should be under /var/log hierarchy somewhere11:08
Jucato /var/log/ then just look for one that starts with Xorg11:08
Jucatoand ends with .log11:08
matthewI found the one with Xorg...I thought I was looking for X11...sorry11:08
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genii-pastebinI know, I keep thinking X11 all the time instead of xorg too LOL11:09
matthewgenii-pastebin, the one that I already pastebinned is the xorg.0.log file11:09
matthewdid you want something else?11:10
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matthewI'm going to pee, brb11:11
genii-pastebinmatthew with the driver name in xorg.conf at r128_dri, from command-line try to execute startx or startkde then do a tail|dmesg > somefilename.txt then pastebin that11:11
matthewok...right now I'm in a gui, so I'm going to have to drop down to level 2...right?11:13
matthewI know it seems like my intelligence is decreasing, but I just don't want to screw something up this late in the game.11:14
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matthewoh, do it from _inside_ the gui?11:15
matthewgenii-pastebin, ?11:15
genii-pastebinhere..11:15
matthewoh, do it from _inside_ the gui?11:16
genii-pastebinmatthew no it's fine, it will tell you the session is being used etc11:16
matthewok11:16
matthewlol, read my above posts for the reasoning behind the idiocy11:16
genii-pastebinthe thing is to see if it can find the driver11:16
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matthewah11:16
matteoroxxhello all11:17
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matteoroxxi wanna install many packages that i don't find inside universe or multiverse..such as skype, w32codecs, libdvddeccs and more11:17
matteoroxxand i don't find a valid p.l.f. link...11:18
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matteoroxxwhich is a good repositories, pls ?11:18
matteoroxxthanks in advance11:18
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matthewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36973/11:19
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matthew^startx^11:19
matthewgenii-pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36973/11:19
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eMaXre11:20
eMaXwell.11:20
genii-pastebinOK nothing enlightening :(11:20
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matthewbummer11:20
eMaXin 2.6.19, hotswap works. yet the generic kernel is not so easy to configure - wlan no longer works, and also my soundcard. anyone has an idea when edgy will upgrade to 2.6.18ff?11:20
matthewwant me to try startkde?11:20
geniimatthew in your xorg.conf  in the modules section is dri there?11:20
matthewlemme look11:21
matthewgenii, under section "Module" it is called, and that's about it11:22
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matthewgenii, Load"dri"11:23
geniimatthew OK good11:23
geniigimme a minute to go look at a box here11:23
matthewgenii, how long have we been on this thing? like...5 hours..lol, that's dedication11:23
matthewok, go for it...11:23
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geniiheh :)11:25
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geniiOK, please try this... rename the r128_dri.so file to r128dri_drv.so   then put as the driver name in xorg.conf  just  r128dri11:26
matthewok11:26
geniithen restart the x server11:27
geniietc etc11:27
geniimatthew Well I'm stuck on an allnighter doing a batch netboot install of 50 systems anyhow so it's not like time is a problem for me11:28
matthewwow...what do you do?11:29
geniiI'm a sysadmin for an isp in Toronto, Canada11:29
matthewnice.11:29
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matthewcan't rename the damn thing...tried chowning and chmodding...and I can't remember how to rename...bleagh11:30
matthewhelp?11:30
geniiWell we are a non-profit isp so sometimes nice sometimes not LOL11:30
matthewlol, how does that work?11:30
geniimatthew there is no rename command since between cp and mv unix doesn't need one11:30
matthewnon-profit...so you're kind of transparent between big ISP's and customers?11:30
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geniijust do mv oldname newname11:31
matthewthere is to a rename command, but your way is better. thanks.11:32
matthewtoo11:32
matthewtry it again?11:32
matthewstartx? or restart xserver?11:32
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geniimatthew We basically get bulk discount in PRI lines and subsidised server space in a nice spot and sell at cost with fixed IPs etc11:32
matthewnice11:33
geniimatthew yeah just retart and if it chokes go in with nano and change it back from r128dri to ati etc etc11:33
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matthewgenii, meh, it choked11:36
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geniimatthew Bleh11:36
matthewgenii, exactly11:36
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geniiwell I'm ready to concede11:37
geniiLOL11:37
matthewany other ideas besides get a good graphics card?11:37
matthewok, fine by me11:37
drakeoutlaw!sql server11:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sql server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:37
drakeoutlaw!sql11:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:37
matthewjust wanted to see if it could be done...11:37
genii!mysqld11:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mysqld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:37
matthewrofl11:37
drakeoutlaw! sql11:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:37
matthew!lamp11:37
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)11:37
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matthewgenii, thanks so much for your time11:37
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geniimatthew No prob. Just disappointed it didn't turn out better11:38
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matthewyeah, me too...now I have to spend 40 dollars on ebay...oh well...I work at a computer store, so i can get anything at cost...you want anything?11:38
geniiyeah some old Seagate barracudas LOL11:40
matthewhow big?11:40
genii3611:40
matthewgot a box full of them.11:40
geniiSCSI UW11:40
matthew36 gigs?11:40
geniiYeah I have 3 raid5 which need matched 3611:40
matthewscsi...that might be a little hard...I'll look into it.11:40
matthewmy email is computingsolutionsbiz@gmail.com11:41
matthewWe can go from there...cool?11:41
geniiyup, cool11:41
geniigot your addie saved11:41
matthewsweet...ttyl11:41
geniihave fun :)11:41
matthewalways!11:41
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Agent_bob!ati11:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:48
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tyehi11:50
alyxhave someone experience with the asus A6R notebook?11:58
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nata1whats the best program for KDE to use for webdesign?12:01
nata1something similiar to dreamweaver.12:02
Jucato!quanta12:02
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2361 kB, installed size 5700 kB12:02
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nata1thanks Jucato.12:02
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Guardianhi12:09
Guardianhow can i get kde display an icon on the desktop when i plug an usb drive ?12:09
sebbarit doesn't display it automatically?12:09
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Guardiannop12:10
Guardianit opens a dialog box, asking what i want to do: open in new window etc ...12:10
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sebbarwell if you select open in new window do you have the icon on the desktop afterwards?12:14
Guardianno12:15
Guardianand the window does not open :(12:15
genii-around!register12:16
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:16
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sebbarhave tried googling for your usb device + linux to see if maybe it's not supported or something like that?12:18
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Guardiansame behavior whatever usb device i use12:22
Guardianworks on the next ubuntu dapper12:22
Admiral_Chicagohave you checked in media:\ or /media12:23
nata1whats the easiest way to install java on kubuntu?12:23
nata1is there an apt package available to do that?12:23
Guardiannothing in /media12:23
Jucato!java | nata112:24
ubotunata1: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository12:24
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kavitI hate edgy12:47
kavit:(12:47
Lynourekavit: Then use dapper instead?12:47
Hobbseeuse warty instead!12:48
kavitLynoure: downgrading is sacrificing a day or two to make sure everything works12:49
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kavitit is a development box of sorts.... I am just hitting every bug12:50
Lynourekavit: ok, I thought you meant you hate it enough to want to get rid of it.12:50
LynoureHobbsee: How long is warty still supported?12:50
kavitLynoure: I am a masochist of sorts... I enjoy the pain.. i think12:50
LynoureI didn't think it was anymore12:50
kavitLynoure: don't know how else to explain my dogged persistance12:51
HobbseeLynoure: it's not12:51
Lynourekavit: I know that mindset :)12:51
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kavitany developers around?12:55
stamenhi12:55
stamenhow to make in console the ethernet adapter to work with static IP address12:56
kavitI shouldn't have moved from next door to jeff waugh... atleast i could bitch to him about bugs12:56
stamenor DHCP12:56
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kavitstamen: sudo ifconfig ethX up and sudo dhclient ethX where X is the number you want to use12:57
stamenok12:58
stamenand moving from dhclient to static12:58
stamen?12:58
stamenhow12:58
kavitto change the static configuration edit /etc/network/interfaces12:59
stamenok, 10x12:59
kavitno worries matey12:59
stamenwhat to write there for static12:59
kavitiface ethX inet static01:00
kavitaddress <insert IP>01:00
stamenkavit: 10x a lot01:00
stamen:)01:00
kavitstamen: there is more01:00
kavitstamen: you need to supply netmask and gateway01:01
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stamenthe other thing I know01:01
stamenthe question was for static and DHCP01:01
kavitno worries01:01
stamen:)01:01
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peikko#lahti01:06
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drakeoutlawwhat is the default runlevel in kubuntu?01:10
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drakeoutlaw!runlevel01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
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drakeoutlaw!run level01:12
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cpk12-501:13
cpk1i think01:13
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drakeoutlawhow would one boot to command line interface?01:14
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cpk1!upstart01:17
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/01:17
drakeoutlawthanx01:17
cpk1provided you are on edgy01:17
drakeoutlawon edge is right :-)01:18
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shenmuehi01:24
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shenmueanyone know how to limit the length the rl_history file of lftp?01:25
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buzzy-Hello,  i have a problem on my hard disk> i have resized some partitions and now windows does not start anymore...if i start linux (ubuntu) it makes the filesystem check...but fails and asks me to do it manually O_O..what can i do?01:28
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nata1is there a apt package available for Mozilla Thunderbird?01:30
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crube_http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/ Wtf? :D01:30
drakeoutlawbuzzy: You need to boot the machine with your windows xp disk and press R to run the repair console . then do chkdsk01:31
buzzy-ok drakeoutlaw01:31
drakeoutlawbuzzy: If that dowsn't fix your windoz partition you will have to reinstall windoz01:32
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buzzy-drakeoutlaw,  ok01:33
buzzy-drakeoutlaw,  fsck with what params?01:33
buzzy-*chkdsk01:33
eMaX_re01:33
eMaX_how come I cannot remove entries from one given kde menu - system - settings01:33
drakeoutlawbuzzy: no windows uses chkdsk /p or chkdsk /? to see the help01:33
buzzy-ok i will try01:34
buzzy-common01:34
buzzy-thanks a lot drakeoutlaw01:34
buzzy-hope it'll solve ;)01:34
buzzy-bye01:34
drakeoutlawbuzzy: good luck01:35
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eMaX_someone here can help me restore some default kubuntu system menu entries? for some reason I lost them like user manager, settings, etc.01:36
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vgeeMaX_: have you trid updating the menu?01:38
lazarus__I have samba installed and running, so that I can browse shared folders. Can I mount those shares, so that all programs (not just konqueror, etc) see them as part of the filesystem? Im trying to do it in Disk & Filesystems in system settings, but get errors when I try to enable the networked disk01:40
drakeoutlawvge: how do you do update menu?01:40
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vgedrakeoutlaw: i think the quickest method is to second click the menu and select "edit menu", from there press the save button and it will update your menu01:43
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eMaX_yes i did now I lost all my previous chagnes :(01:44
Jucatowhich menus are you missng?01:44
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megapigHow do i change my screen resolution to 1280x800?02:13
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universi<megapig>go in Control Panel02:14
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universiIt's possible install nubuntu security tools on kubuntu? There are repos?02:16
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cpk1define security tools?02:19
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universitools as sniffers, which i can find for example in Backtrack distro02:20
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Lynoureuniversi: That's probably a question better targeted to the people who packaged them. But very many sniffers exist in Universe already02:22
universii'm not interesting only to sniffers, i have mensioned sniffer for give an example02:24
Lynoureuniversi: So you want to know if each and every of them is available for kubuntu? That's really a question best answered on irc.kaffeinenet.com #nubuntu02:25
universiLynoure: i try to connect to nubuntu channel but connection appears refused02:26
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universiLynoure: exacly02:26
Lynoureuniversi: you can  do some  apt-cache show:ing for the package names yourself, too02:26
Pensacolahow to start the update notifier in edgy? I accidentaly closed it02:26
universii fill "nubuntu" in adept searchbar but 0 results02:27
abattoirPensacola: 'kdesu adept_updater'02:28
Pensacolawill it start automatically next time?02:29
abattoirPensacola: if you close KDE w/ it running, and have Session restore on, it should02:29
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Pensacolaok thx02:29
Lynoureuniversi: That's the distribution name, not the package name, I think02:29
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Lynoureuniversi: but if you just want kde and nubuntu, you can install kubuntu-desktop on nubuntu, it seems02:30
universi:D i know lynoure....02:30
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universibut if adding a pakage mirror in my list of adept repos ...?!?02:31
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gerulahi all02:32
universi:D sorry for my english02:32
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xsachahttp://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2006Dec/bch20061205000073.htm  65nm  finally! :D02:34
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Lynoureuniversi: it's your system, no promises, but if you have backups and testdrive the installs with the simulate switch, you should be roughly fine.02:34
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Lynoureuniversi: If you things work radically well or radically badly, talk about it somewhere so that other people have to a bit less questioning. Good luck and have fun.02:36
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chihhello everybody02:51
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truecklN abend ;)02:52
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chih # apt-get update02:52
chih# apt-get dist-upgrade02:52
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chih# apt-get update02:53
chihapt-get upgrade02:53
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Murchadhchih, !apt-get update02:53
Jucato!cn02:54
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:54
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eMaX_did I say recently, the kde menu editor sucks... I keep loosing menu entries02:56
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JucatoI did ask which menus disappeared02:57
Jucatoabout an hour ago02:57
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kavitany devs or /dev node hackers here?02:57
kavitI have an issue with a ATAPI DVD RAM drive and edgy02:58
kavitround 2 :(02:58
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eMaX_well about one hour ago I reinitialized my menu. then i started sorting things again. then when I finally was sort of finished, I looked through and there was one of my submenus missing. a custom created one. and all its icons.02:59
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eMaX_then I see ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu and that my icons are there noted as "<deleted>...</deleted>". Now what the F I delete that section manually, but KDE is totally uninterested in rereading that file.03:00
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buzzyhello03:01
buzzyhow can i configura grub menu.lst ?03:01
_kuja_with a text editor :)03:01
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chihuse vi03:01
malik__guyz why doesnt real player in linux plays anything properly?.............it keeps jerking n skipping video...........any one have any idea?03:02
_kuja_or kate, if you've never used vi03:02
buzzyhow can i configura grub menu.lst ? i mean what should i write in it?03:02
malik__is there any way that we can play real video files with kaffeine or Kmplayer??03:03
_kuja_malik_ real player in linux is essentially a completely differnet player in linux.03:03
_kuja_malik:might be able to if you have the w32codecs installed.03:03
malik__i think i have w32codecs installed03:03
buzzyok guys i have linux and windows in the same HD (partitioned) now want to configure grub so that i can choose if to boot with win or linux...03:03
_kuja_buzzy: depends what you want to do to it03:03
buzzyhow do i do that?03:04
buzzy_kuja_, ?03:04
_kuja_It probably doesn't help much that I'm lagging 3 seconds, is it?03:04
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BluesKajHowdy all ! :)03:05
_kuja_malik: if you have the w32codecs installed, then you're probably pretty much at the limit of what proprietary formats you can play.03:05
shenmuewhat's the difference between mplayer and kmplayer?03:05
_kuja_helluuu03:05
HymnToLifeshenmue, methinks kmplayer is a Qt based GUI for mplayer03:05
_kuja_kmplayer is a frontend for xine, mplayer, and gstreamer, whereas, mplayer is itself.03:05
HymnToLife!kmplayer03:05
ubotukmplayer: media player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 620 kB03:05
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_kuja_mplayer is a cli based video player, with an optionally available gtk frontend. On the other hand, KMPlayer and KPlayer both exist ... and IMO they should switch names ... it'd make more sense.03:07
mindspin_hi,nearly "out of a sudden" my keyboard went mad,I have to push the keys for about a second toshow up,it works on commandline log in.any idea?03:07
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malik__so that wud mean i ll be never able to play real video files?03:10
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malik__!cli03:11
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands03:11
Jucatowhich real video files? .rmvb? .rm?03:11
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_kuja_mindspin: the last time my keyboard went mad, it had hot steamy liquid and marshmallows floating in it :O03:12
malik__Jucato: it says .rm on the extension03:12
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Jucatomalik__: I can play those on kaffeine....03:13
malik__it plays just fine in win xp03:13
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Jucatow32codecs, I think03:13
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malik__i have w32 codecs03:13
malik__but recently i installed real playerr u think it might have mucked up the settings?03:13
_kuja_realplayer in windows != realplayer in linux .... realplayer in linux = helix player with real media playback capabilities03:13
BluesKajrm = Real Media = Realplayer ..a pain in the ass03:14
JucatoI don't think it would have mucked up anything...03:14
_kuja_ack, looks like I've hit my download limit ...03:15
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_kuja_my lag was 52s there for a couple minutes ... weird03:16
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malik__in the error details it says that xine: demuxer failed to start..........what could that mean?03:18
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Naradahi anyone got home and end keys working in ubuntu in eterm?03:18
_kuja_it means it was unable to demux the file. Pretty straightforward really.03:18
malik__i mean there are some files with rm extension kaffeine is playin n then this particular one its not playin03:18
_kuja_there are 10 or more versions of the rm format. It plays some but not others03:19
malik__oki then canu plz tell me what does demux means?03:19
_kuja_I'm pretty sure it has to do with seperating the audio and the video, or some such03:19
_kuja_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demux03:21
malik__Hmm well for that i miss win xp03:21
eMaX_re03:22
malik__but i guess i can live with that03:22
_kuja_if realplayer's playback is jerky, there is probably something you need to configure. It has quite a few settings that you can change related to playback, especially with regards to streaming playback.03:22
eMaX_anyone ever used easyubunut? I try to install codecs and he tells me that there is no source for the w32codecs03:22
Jucato!easyubuntu03:22
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_kuja_I've never used easyubuntu, but I know where to get the w32codecs.03:22
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_kuja_http://mplayerhq.hu03:23
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malik___kuja_: i dont use realplayer for streamin playback .........i like kaffeine coz then i can record the streams too:)03:23
sercik!mp303:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:24
eMaX_what's more easyubuntu.freecontrib.org seems to be down03:25
HymnToLifeeMaX_, think of it as a nice opportunity to learn doing stuff by yourself :)03:25
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eMaX_well yes :)03:26
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s-tonedI didn't get dapper to work with my Matrox G550DH (only vesa, no xinerama). So I installed breezy again. Is my only option to switch to nvidia to get a working xinerama installation? (Acceleration would be better anyway.)03:28
maniacxsHi, I am searching the drop_caches switch in /proc/sys/vm/ on a kubuntu. Not able to find it. any ideas where it disappeared to?03:29
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BluesKajKDETV crashes X ... clicks off and puts me back into the login page .... any ideas ?03:31
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BluesKajyeah i know , if it hurts when ya do that ...don't do that  :)03:31
_kuja_here's my idea: compile it with --enable-debug=full and submit a bug report with a nice backtrace :O03:32
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s-tonedCan (should) I mix (with pinning) breezy and dapper like I used to mix debian stable and testing?03:35
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Igor_V2 anybody knows the command to get plugins for totem video player?03:41
fannagoganna_what?03:41
fannagoganna_totem is merely a front end to xine and gstreamer03:42
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wildchildhello there is in edgy any package similar to aida32 (I wanna se what hardware I have on conputer...)03:47
angasulefannagoganna_: how about interface plugins (for example, to search for files)? Probably wasn't what he wanted, but still not a crazy idea03:48
fannagoganna_are there?03:48
fannagoganna_totem is pretty integrated into GNOME, I think everything is  done through audiovisual backends or through gnome libraries03:49
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BluesKajI like the new version of KTorrent quite a lot , but I've enabled the UDP /TCP ports required and files are DLing NP , but I see in the peers DHT column that the hash tables are X"d out ...why03:57
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linux_what is the command to view the processes ?04:01
malik__what is the latest version of Ktorrent?04:02
HymnToLifelinux_ > ps04:02
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ubotuktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB04:02
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angasule!nvidia > angasule04:03
linux_yes okey :)04:03
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linux_but there is also a other command, that startup a grafische program04:05
linux_and you can stop processes04:05
buzzysorry people can you say me if i have set well my grub? I would like to be able to boot windows partition. i have pasted fdisk -l and menu.lst content: http://rafb.net/paste/results/mSEqJT58.html04:05
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lazarus__Im trying to mount a network share (following a howto) and it shows up in konqueror as media:/MY DOCUMENTS, but nothing is displayed in the konqueror window. and a messagebox comes up saying feature only available with HAL. Can anybody give me a clue, as I have none. Do I need to install or activate HAL?04:07
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troydo OOo 2.1 packages exist anywhere (other than klik)?04:08
buzzycan you help me please?04:08
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BluesKajlazarus__, have you considered samba for network sharing ?04:09
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lazarus__BluesKaj:  yes, Ive got samba installed and working. I just want the shares to be mounted in the filesystem04:10
BluesKajlazarus__, is the the network tree listed ok ?04:11
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mindspin does anyone know how to fix my keyboard issues,I could swear that its relatetd to the hal update today. I have the keys to push about a second each to show up.On commandline login, theres no problem, even typing the password before kde starts up is normal. But after kde is running, my keyboard gets weird04:13
mindspin I installed the older working version again with no help, I guess the other two packages have to be "downgraded" to. when if, then how? ;-)04:13
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lazarus__BluesKaj: yes04:14
BluesKajare the othe pcs on your network running windows ?04:14
BluesKajother04:15
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mirshafiehello. i'm having some problems with kde suddenly slowing down. it works fine for a few hours, sometimes one, sometimes nine, but then it  just goes slomo until i'm kicked back at kdm (unless i logout first). arts seems to crash sometimes when mplayer is running ("cpu overload"), but i don't know if these are related. it all used to work fine on dapper.04:15
lazarus__BluesKaj: the one other pc is windows/kubuntu dual-boot, currently booted in kubuntu04:15
cebices4hi04:15
ibertmirshafie: the gam_server?04:16
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mirshafieibert: gam_server? don't know what that is04:17
cebices4dns, routers, server redirection, can you tell me the best channel to ask about this?04:17
mirshafieoh yeah, forgot to mention top says everyting consumes normal amounts of cpu and ra,04:17
mirshafie*m04:17
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lazarus__BluesKaj: the howto I followed is at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_network_folders_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite04:18
ibertmirshafie: can you log into a vt when kde is slowing down? if yes, login, and type top. if there is the app gam_server running with high cpu usage, than you've found the problem.04:18
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DarkWizzardhello all04:19
DarkWizzardI need some help04:19
DarkWizzardMy ISP just switched to pppoe04:19
DarkWizzardand I need to configure it under kubuntu04:20
mirshafiesorry, it happened again. would be really nice if someone could help me out with this :D04:20
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DarkWizzardI'm under windows now04:20
ibertmirshafie: try to start  top and you will see which application is slowing down your machine...04:20
ibertmirshafie: ever tried top?04:20
mirshafieibert: of course, and top says everything consumes pretty normal amounts of virt, cpu and mem04:21
vyomanHi could someone confirm that there have been a number of eclipse updates recently, or is there something wrong with my installation?04:21
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cebices4how do I redirect a subdomain to a second computer, using another port?04:23
ibertmirshafie: check top if the problem occurs.04:23
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buzzyguys i booted linux with printer switched off, now i need to print but it is not mounted ...what is the correct way to print? (a webpage from firefox)04:24
vyomanuhhps wrong channel sorry04:24
mirshafieibert: yea, that's what i have done, but it doesn't give me a clue. the only thing that i think could prod me in the right direction is that artsmessage error, that says my cpu overloaded.04:25
cebices4lets say i use a router with a firewall and a computer with apache listening on port 80, and a domain, and i want to use a second port 81 to redirect a subdomain to another apache server, on a second computer. How can I do this?04:25
malik__buzzy: try mount -a n see if it works04:26
ibertmirshafie: ah. I see. so that's another possibility. but actually I don't use arts.04:26
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mirshafieibert: well, i've always heard arts suck, so i thought maybe i should just try something else. i guess the alternative is alsa? any ideas on how i could switch?04:27
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trappistmirshafie: it depends on your sound card.04:28
trappistmirshafie: if your sound card does hardware mixing, like an audigy, you don't need anything like arts.  otherwise I recommend using arts.04:29
ibertmirshafie: system settings -> soudns& multimedia -> deactivate soundsystem04:29
mirshafietrappist: how do i find out?04:29
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trappistmirshafie: what sound card do you have?04:29
ibertmirshafie: just try. deactivate arts, and play 2 different sounds. like skyp and amarok04:29
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ibertmirshafie: skype with alsa of course04:30
ibertmirshafie: or kaffeine and amarok04:30
sercikhellooooooooooo04:30
malik__hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii  :)04:30
sercikhi to all great people in this forum04:30
mirshafieibert: i'll try it, but the thing is that artsmessage thing occours only rarely, and just sometimes when i run mplayer. usually it doesn't happen, but i still can't help to think there's a connection04:31
serciksomeone here have installed xgl?04:31
mirshafietrappist: not sure really :)04:31
malik__!xgl04:31
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:31
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sercikmalik__: i'll read!04:32
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trappistmirshafie: lspci | grep Audio04:33
malik__sercik: i wa chkin for myself, just wantd to know what it is04:33
malik__im a newbie04:33
sercikwa chkin?04:34
malik__was checking:)04:34
malik__bad habit of sms chat04:34
mirshafieibert: i deactivated the sound system, and sound still works (which doesn't make sense to me...)04:34
mirshafietrappist: this is what i get: 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)04:35
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ibertmirshafie: sound works in 2 layers. you can use kde soundsystem if you want, but you don't have to.04:35
trappistmirshafie: that's what I get too.  did you try playing two sounds at once?04:35
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ibertmirshafie: i have the same hardware and I don't have to use arts04:36
BluesKajlazarus__, sorry i'll have to hand off to someone who knows something about HAL ...i have no knowledge of it ..I'm running a small home network setup with this linux box and wife's windows pc ...I don'r recall anything about a HAL  utility in the "mix". :(04:36
ibertmirshafie: your hardware supports mixing out of the box04:36
monadhello... after manually installing libdvdcss and compiling mplayer from source, i get several errors when compiling some self-written C programs: ../../types.h: error: duplicate unsigned04:36
kavitthis ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37006/   is causing HAL/DBUS to not load/recognise my DVD RAM drive... any ideas?04:37
lazarus__ok, thanks anyway BluesKaj04:37
monadany ideas?04:38
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mirshafie|trappist, ibert: well, i tried to run mplayer with amarok playing songs, and i got kicked right back out at kdm04:38
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BluesKajsounds like this HAL thing is causing probs with others as well04:39
trappistmirshafie|: well that shouldn't happen, but apparently you do want to use arts04:39
mirshafie|i usually just mute amarok when i'm using mplayer04:39
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trappistmirshafie|: me too, but this was a test to see if you could play multiple sounds simultaneously.  a real life example would be like listening to amarak, and kopete wants to beep at you.04:40
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kavitas soon as I went from dapper to edgy my dvd ram drive stopped working.... what good is a laptop without an optical drive04:40
RealisticDragondvd ram? oO04:41
RealisticDragonrare to say the least :)04:41
mirshafie|trappist: ok. i enabled the sound system again. is there any alternatives to arts?04:41
kavitRealisticDragon: its a Toshiba Tecra A4... not so rare04:42
trappistmirshafie|: sort of, but arts is what you want if you use kde04:42
mirshafie|trappist: ok04:42
kavitRealisticDragon:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37006/  <---------- can you make sense of this??04:43
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RealisticDragonhm says it has a DVD RW drive, not a DVD RAM drive :o maybe they made several versions :)04:43
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monadhello... after manually installing libdvdcss and compiling mplayer from source, i get several errors when compiling some self-written C programs: ../../types.h: error: duplicate unsigned04:43
mirshafie|trappist: so, could it be that it's something wrong with my soundcard? because it's quite messy, some of the ports don't even work04:43
jontechow do I upgrade to edgy from dapper.... what package?04:43
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RealisticDragonyou need to change the repos you are using jontec - the instructions are on the front page of the kubuntu website04:43
BluesKaj!Edgy04:44
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kavitRealisticDragon: yeah they did.... but it is an ATAPI device to say the least04:44
kavitRealisticDragon: it was working reallllllly well with everything else I have used on this machine04:44
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RealisticDragonit is wierd that it has died :/ can you see it from the edgy live CD?04:45
easytigerhi. when i run sudo iwlist scanning i can see my wireless network, but when i set the networking utility to conect to it it doesnt connect04:46
easytigerand its a belkin usb wireless and the entwork is not encrypted04:46
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kavitRealisticDragon: I did a dist-upgrade04:47
kavitRealisticDragon: it worked with sarge :(04:47
usrhi04:47
RealisticDragoneasytiger: give 'sudo iwconfig <interface> ssid networkname && dhcpcd <interface>' a go and see if it connects04:47
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easytigerwill do04:48
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RealisticDragonkavit: i think they changed something with the /dev system in edgy, although i dont know the details exactly :o if it works off the live CD then theres a very good chance its fixable04:48
kavitRe\04:49
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kavitRealisticDragon: yeah... I need the DVD writer to work to burn a live cd though :(04:49
RealisticDragonsorry easytiger that should be dhclient <interface> forget my head if it wasnt glued on ;)04:49
RealisticDragond'oh... does the drive show up in lspci?04:50
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easytigerRealisticDragon: yea it just tries a few times then says no offers04:50
kavitRealisticDragon: lshal shows it to be a generic scsi device04:50
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RealisticDragoneasytiger: it might be worth trying a different config utility - wifi-radar sometimes works better than nm-applet or knetworkmanager04:51
RealisticDragonits in adept :) run it with sudo wifi-radar04:51
llutzeasytiger: try to switch off encryption explicit: iwconfig >dev> enc off04:52
easytigerRealisticDragon: cool. sadly the computer has no network connection04:52
RealisticDragonkavit: dont know if i can be any help :/ sorry04:52
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RealisticDragonahh sorry easytiger, didnt realise it was wireless only :)04:52
easytigeralas04:53
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kavitRealisticDragon: thanks for trying anyway :)04:55
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VSpikeIf I go into the control panel and disable the sound system, does that stop arts running?04:57
VSpikehm no.. sorry shoulda checked that myself04:58
VSpikeI guess it stops it actually doing anything though?04:58
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SebbohHow do I inform KDE that I want to double click files to open them, not single click?05:04
RealisticDragonsystem settings>keyboard and mouse>mouse05:04
Sebboh(Or at least not open the file twice if I do double click, jeeze. ;P )05:04
RealisticDragoni think you can change the delay there as well :)05:04
Jucato(In Dapper, it would be just System Settings -> Mouse)05:05
shenmue!lvm205:05
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RealisticDragonthe control panel seems to be getting a little more obtuse with every release :/05:05
SebbohThe double click delay?  That would have nothing to do with it. =)  File open is set to double click now, thanks all.05:05
RealisticDragonnp05:06
shenmue!lvm2 > shenmue05:06
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dettoaltrimenti_where is the control panel in kubuntu?05:06
RealisticDragonstart>system settings05:06
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LjLdettoaltrimenti_: K / System Settings05:06
snamaor you can type    kcontrol    in konsole05:06
LjLor in alt+f2 for that matter05:07
RealisticDragonalt-space kcontrol :)05:07
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kavitwhats the gpg key for kubuntu.org apt repository?05:07
LjLRealisticDragon: that won't work05:07
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RealisticDragonbah, its not in katapult.. wonder why05:07
LjLRealisticDragon: it only knows about things that are somewhere in the menu i think05:07
dettoaltrimenti_is there somewhere under system settings where I can choose which programs to load at startup? or do I have to write a script to do that?05:07
snamahey this is great stuff man05:07
RealisticDragoni do love katapult but it can be a bit odd :)05:07
snamawhere are you all from?05:08
JucatoK Menu -> System Settings05:08
LjLkavit: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-161.php05:08
jerpkavit, go to that automated repository generator, they'll have it there05:08
RealisticDragonengland snama05:08
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snamaiam fron sweden05:08
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snamafrom*05:08
JucatoRealisticDragon: its Programs catalog only knows those that are in the K Menu05:08
buzzyhow do i mount a floppy in fat mode?05:08
kavitjerp: which one?05:08
RealisticDragonwell alt-space sys works anyway ;)05:09
_kuja_mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /path/to/mountpoint05:09
_kuja_perhaps05:09
LjLdettoaltrimenti_: can't you just open all (and only) the programs you want to be run at startup, and do a K / Save Session?05:09
snamawhat is katapult btw?05:09
LjL!katapult05:09
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.05:09
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LjLsnama: press Alt+Space05:09
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: you can just create links to the applications you want to startup in ~/.kde/Autostart (right click -> Create New -> Link to Application). Or you could use KDE's Session management which is set to "Restore from previous session" by default05:09
LjLoh it's previous session by default05:10
jerphttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:10
snamaman itws great stuff05:10
JucatoLjL: yep. not manually save session05:10
_kuja_katapult's even a fully functional calculator :)05:10
eMaX_re05:11
RealisticDragonhaha thats awesome _kuja_05:11
snamadoesnt katapult have to buffer the harddriver or something?05:11
JucatoKatapult can launch programs in K Menu, search for docs in your home directory, launch/run Amarok playlists, etc05:11
snamalike indexing05:11
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Jucatosnama: not really. it just uses the information that's already available, like the K Menu (.desktop files), Amarok playlists, etc05:12
snamak05:12
snamanice05:12
Jucatooh, it also does bookmarks05:12
snamavery nice05:12
snamawhat web browser are you using guys?05:13
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RealisticDragonfirefox and konqueror :)05:13
RealisticDragonmostly firefox05:13
snamaopera is great but now i use Konqueror05:13
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snamaFirefox boots so damn slow on my pc05:13
snamakonqueror is instant05:13
rich__hi i am having a poblem05:13
_kuja_I have opera skiinned to look just like konqueror (for the most part) .... I get the two confused sometimes!05:13
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Jucatosnama: you could try swiftfox05:14
RealisticDragonwhats up rich__?05:14
snamak05:14
Jucato_kuja_: how can you get confused with the toolbars? :P05:14
Jucatogoing afk...05:14
RealisticDragontoo many firefox extensions i dont want to give up :)05:14
rich__my pc wont bownload things off the internet05:14
_kuja_I know that's different, but the colors, icons, everything else is the same .....05:14
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rich__my pc wont bownload things off the internet05:15
shenmueRealisticDragon: me too05:15
_kuja_Or as close as I can get it.05:15
snamaman i like the way linux communities work man... its so friendly and free05:15
RealisticDragonrich__: the same pc you are using now?05:15
rich__yes\05:15
RealisticDragonso, the internet works, just some bugs ;) which program are you using to download?05:15
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rich__firefox05:16
rich__???05:16
shenmueJucato: some ff extensions are really helpful05:16
RealisticDragoncan you see web pages with it? its just downloading files that breaks?05:16
VSpike!arts05:16
ubotuarts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB05:16
rich__yes how did u no???05:16
snamaman i bet KDE4 will rock05:17
rich__yes how did u no???05:17
RealisticDragonjust working through the list of things that might be wrong :)05:17
snamai wish it could be faster than 3 too05:17
RealisticDragonwhat happens when you go to toold>downloads? (firefox menus)05:17
snamayou open up the downloads window05:17
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BluesKajhow do i give myself permission to copy files from ext3 to my NTFS partition ...I have samba working and i can copy file from NTFS to kubuntu , but not the reverse . I don't want to have to boot into windows.05:17
snamaif you want to configure you go to preferences05:17
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RealisticDragontalking rich though a problem snama ;)05:18
snamak05:18
snamalol05:18
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RealisticDragondoes the download window show up when you do that rich__? :o05:18
llutzBluesKaj: you don't want to write to ntfs from linux,( maybe with ntf-3g)...05:18
vadoHi05:19
RealisticDragon!captive05:19
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse05:19
snamahey vado05:19
snamahaving a nice day?05:19
_kuja_speaking of arts and kde4 ... no more arts, yay!05:19
BluesKajllutz, ntf-3g ? what's that ?05:19
llutzBluesKaj: new driver for ntfs05:19
snamawhen is KDE 4 coming?05:19
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_kuja_in a long time05:19
rich__yes it does05:20
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rich__its working05:20
snama:( but i bet it will be good made05:20
llutzBluesKaj: ntfs-3g, sry05:20
rich__its working05:20
rich__!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:20
RealisticDragongreat rich__, all set now? :)05:20
rich__i think05:20
BluesKajllutz, , I just need permission to copy files05:20
snamaanother satisfied soul05:20
snamaits good and friendly here05:20
snamawindows sucks05:21
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_kuja_The phrase "Windows sucks" has such a nice ring to it05:21
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BluesKajwindows is a fact of life , I have to learn to live with it05:22
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RealisticDragonwell, windows isnt the whole problem :) its all the software that sucks AND requires windows thats the problem... the telmex DSL install frexample that took me 2 1/2 hours this morning :P https://www.revis.co.uk/site/?q=node/12505:22
snamamicrosoft is critisized for having too many "Windows applications" in Vista. not letting the competion in. believe it or not but microsoft has its own Anti-Virus for Vista haha05:22
BluesKajall this windows bashing isn't helping me05:22
_kuja_RealisticDragon: don't limit it to software, don't forget about the hardware ...05:22
fannagoganna_well i don't like MS because it's just not a very powerful OS05:22
llutzwin-bashing helps nobody05:22
_kuja_No, but it makes us feel all warm and fuzzy inside.05:23
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BluesKajllutz, ;)05:23
snamayou cant do nothing in the NT or DOS command-line05:23
fannagoganna_with Linux, i can just pop out a program with a GUI when I need one05:23
RealisticDragoni havent tried the new windows shell yet05:23
RealisticDragonits supposed to be half decent05:23
snamahey btw will Swiftfox interfere with Firefox?05:23
fannagoganna_plus, any UNIX shell command is much much much better than cmd :)05:23
fannagoganna_I mean UNIX shell, sorry05:24
_kuja_cygwin? :D05:24
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llutzif you miss something, use cygwin or gnu-utils, bash/zsh are available, so what? :)05:24
fannagoganna_eh, cygwin is pretty cumbersome. Although it's better than Windows, it's not as good as Linux05:24
snamahas any1 tried tremolous?05:24
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rich__> > > > > > > Could not open the file /home/rich/Desktop/GoogleEarthLinux.bin.05:25
rich__> > > > > > > gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.05:25
rich__> > > > > > > Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.05:25
rich__> > > > > > > Select a character coding from the menu and try again.05:25
rich__help05:25
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rich__> gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.05:25
rich__> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.05:25
rich__> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.05:25
_kuja_try kate?05:25
RealisticDragonno05:25
fannagoganna_did you try chmod +x  /home/rich/Desktop/GoogleEarthLinux.bin?05:25
RealisticDragonits google earth05:25
rich__help05:25
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RealisticDragonwhat fannagoganna_ said ;)05:25
rich__help05:25
snamawhat are you trying to do?05:25
snamarich05:25
RealisticDragonopen up a konsole (alt-f2)05:26
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RealisticDragonthen type konsole05:26
Dr_willisrich__,  Learn some linux basics gesh.. and quit acting like an idiot on IRC.05:26
dreamerheya05:26
rich__i tryed 2 download it05:26
_kuja_why do such a combersome thing when we have katapult, RD?05:26
cebices4sorry the lights went out in here and i missed all the aswers... could you please repeat05:26
Dr_willisrich__,  you need to 'run' the thing - its an executable.. not a text file.. dont just 'double click' on it.05:26
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dreamerwhere can I do that ?05:26
snamayou need to go to the file properties of GoogleEarthLinux.bin and make it executable and then open konsole in that directory and launch05:26
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fannagoganna_hey now, this channel is for newbies05:27
fannagoganna_no need for abuse05:27
rich__thanks05:27
RealisticDragonthe command you need rich is 'chmod u+x google*.bin && ./google*.bin'05:27
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D4rkW1zz4rdhello05:27
RealisticDragonthe first one marks the file as being good to run and the second runs it05:27
D4rkW1zz4rdI need some help05:27
D4rkW1zz4rdhow to configure PPPOE ?05:27
_kuja_that happens a lot in support channels d4rk05:27
Dr_willisjust dont shout  help, help, help, and flood the channel in the future.. :)05:27
D4rkW1zz4rdit just gives me access denied authentification failed05:28
RealisticDragonD4rkW1zz4rd: USB ASDL modem?05:28
D4rkW1zz4rdno modem05:28
D4rkW1zz4rdat all05:28
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D4rkW1zz4rddirect connection05:28
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llutzdreamer: in firefox prefs.js/user.js , "network.protocol-handler.app.mailto" = "firefox", "network.protocol-handler.external.mailto" ="true"05:28
Dr_willis!googleearth05:28
ubotuGoogle Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html05:28
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RealisticDragonbest place to look might be the ubuntu wiki D4rkW1zz4rd, afraid i havent had to play with ppoe05:28
dreamerllutz: where exactly do I find this to edit ?05:29
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rich__thanks everyone05:29
llutzdreamer: ~/.mozilla ; http://mozdev.org/pipermail/discuss/2004-April/000068.html05:29
_kuja_hmm, apt-cache shows a  couple pertinent programs: pppoe and pppoeconf05:29
rich__thanks everyone05:29
snamanp05:29
rich__bye05:29
dreamerllutz: thnx, I'll check05:29
rich__bye05:30
snamabye man have a nice day05:30
rich__u 205:30
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rich__marry xmas05:30
snamasame to you05:30
rich__have a good day05:31
Dr_willisnow HOW did i install google earth from the package manager....05:31
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Dr_willisits in some alternative repos i guess...05:31
Dr_willisI rember doing it just last week. :)05:31
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snamahey does any1 know any very big difference between Feisty Herd and Edgy Eft?05:33
RealisticDragonberyl might be inegrated into feisty05:34
snamanice05:34
RealisticDragonim not sure about this name :( i was hoping for fantabulous flatfish ;)05:34
snamalol05:34
Dr_willisI think the whole Cute Animal Name scheme is getting rather sad....05:34
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snamahey btw any1 here wants that Valve ports Steam and all of the big Steam games to Linux, BSD and Mac?05:35
RealisticDragonnot me05:35
snamawould be nice05:35
RealisticDragonnot a fan of steam05:35
Dr_willissnama,  actually i gave UP on  the valve games because of Steam.05:35
snamanot me either but CS and Half Life05:36
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snamasteam is so slow05:36
Dr_willisthey did it in a totally screwy way.. and i had to wait several days to get HL2 to even install.05:36
Dr_willisso i dont buy stuff from them any more.05:36
Dr_willisactually i dont play games much any more.05:36
snamai never did05:36
snamabuy05:36
snamai borrowed an account from a friend or used Pacsteam05:37
Dr_willisand the way steam is set up i cant even 'legally' give my game to my brother to play.. since its in my name.05:37
RealisticDragonif you pay for steam games then you wont be able to play them when/if valve pulls the plug :o all my old games i can still play on linux with cedega if i feel bored enough... HL2 and the rest are just rented, so im keeping my money :)05:37
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snamaPacsteam is pretty good, you get all the games but you can only run them on cracked servers05:37
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Dr_willissounds like somthing to avoide...05:38
imagineHello, during the install, Kubuntu never asked me to enter a SU password.. How can I set it up now ?05:38
snamaso how much faster is Swiftfox compared to Firefox?05:38
RealisticDragonnot so into stolen software anymore :) easier of course to say now that linux is so good.. and i get paid on a monthly basis :P05:38
Dr_willis!root05:39
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:39
Dr_willis!sudo05:39
RealisticDragonimagine: you dont normally use root on an ubuntu/k box, if you need to have a root shell try sudo su05:39
imagineok05:39
Dr_willissudo -s05:39
imaginesry, I"m comin from SUSe05:39
RealisticDragonthe password for sudo is the first user password :)05:39
Dr_willisi perfer the 'sux' command.. but im old-skool05:39
imaginekk;)05:39
dresnuhello to all! I'm getting a new laptop today with a dual 2 core processor. I'm a little confused on which kubuntu version to install. Should I install the "normal" x86 version with the generic smp kernel or the amd64 version (which from what I read on the forums works also with intel cpus)?05:40
Dr_willisBeen Messing with my MythTV box last 3 days....05:40
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Dr_willisdresnu,  i would avoide the 64bit versions. theres still lots of quirks with stuff. and programs taht are not avail for it.05:40
RealisticDragondresnu: right now i think a lot of people are still running on x86 rather than -amd64 until the last of the bugs go away05:40
snamai am satisfied with my good'ol Pentium 3 coppermine05:41
dresnuaha, yeah I already knew about many programs not working with 64bit version05:41
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snamaany1 here running on a P3?05:41
RealisticDragongot a server running on an old P3 gen. celeron :)05:42
dresnubut you confirme my that the amd64 version also works for intel?05:42
snamaman am i hungry05:42
RealisticDragondresnu: yeah, the intel 64 bit extensions were licensed from amd05:42
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dresnuRealisticDragon: interesting, thanks05:43
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dresnuso I guess I'll stick to x86 for now05:44
snamawhere are you guys from?05:44
snamaany1 here experiencind Amarok being slow at startup?05:45
Dr_willisheh - anyone here even been able to FIND a ps305:45
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RealisticDragoni want a wii but they are all sold out :/05:46
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Dr_willisThe hotest Xmas gifts that you cant buy....05:46
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nuxillinux will run on ps3 ;)05:47
Dr_willislinux will run on a PS2 :)05:47
nuxili know05:47
Dr_willislinux will run on a ........ lot of things..05:47
dreamerit'll ,rum' on anything :P05:47
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RealisticDragonno direct access to the video hardware05:47
dreamer'run' *05:47
nuxilDr_willis, LOL05:47
nuxilyea thats true05:47
dofrehello05:47
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Dr_willisbeen looking at the Nokia 770, or that GPX2 handheld for a new toy....05:48
Dr_willisbut i want somthing that can play videos well.05:48
dofrei have a usb version 2 but in linux it's configure only with 1.1 version05:48
Jucatoboth can, afaik05:48
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Dr_willisso can my PSP - :) but i want somtning thats nice and easier to use.05:48
dofrehow to modifiy to pass to usb 205:48
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Dr_willisPSP is &$&@&@9 annoying in the formats it plays05:49
RealisticDragonDr_willis: i have a sharp zaurus C750 for playing video :) 2gb sd card and a 4gb Cf card, and enough battery to get over the adlantic05:49
nuxilsonyericsson :)05:49
JucatoDr_willis: yes. so you can play more games :)05:49
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Dr_willisi dont even play games on the psp05:49
Dr_willis'Porn Station Portable'05:49
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nuxillol05:49
Dr_willisNEXT big thing to figure out - is converting my MythTV recordings to PSP format....05:50
nuxilheh.. good luck :)05:50
Dr_willisI hear the replacement for the 770 is  comming out soon.05:50
RealisticDragontheres a tool to automatically convert them and serve them up as an rss feed05:50
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RealisticDragonmaybe that was for the ipod :o05:50
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Dr_willisguy at work had an ipod watching videos.. the psp made it look like a cheap thing.05:51
Dr_willis:)05:51
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nuxilwtf is the point in watching a video on a 2" screen :p05:52
Dr_willisOf course they frown on watching videos at work.05:52
_kuja_on a 2" screen ... that costs $100+05:52
_kuja_I don't know what the point is either05:52
Dr_willisits so noisy in the factory.. and i got anime that i have to use subtitles for.. so i need a bigger screen.05:52
nuxiloverprized05:52
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nothlitThe psp should have enough res for subtitles05:53
nothlitDr_willis, of course only if you can use all of it05:53
ubuntu_will two bootable flags frag the system? (one on a sata disk /dev/sdc, and one on a stata disk /dev/sdb)05:53
nuxilhehe make a headgear for the ipod and let it hang like 3" away from your eyes.. make it look like 50" :P05:53
Dr_willisYea. getting the videos converted to the psp - and showing the subtitles - is the stumbling point.05:53
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Dr_willisGetting Anything converted to the PSP is the big hassle.05:54
Dr_willisnuxil,  they got those allready.05:54
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nuxillol05:54
nuxilno kidding?05:54
ubuntu_i am adding a disk :) ,but just adding with fdisk and mkfs and plug in as +1sdx does not boot the system05:54
nuxilwell people make alot of crap thise days.. so why not a headgrear for the ipod05:55
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nuxillol05:55
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RealisticDragonyou can get glasses that take composite inputs already ;)05:55
dofreany idea to configure a correct usb 2....05:55
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BluesKaj_kuja_, i need to unmount the hda1 partition in oder to use Fuse and ntfs-3g..what's the the right command ?05:56
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_kuja_umount /dev/hda105:57
_kuja_**sudo05:57
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nuxilnot happening if hda1 is /05:57
ubuntu_can anyone tell why kubuntu doesn' t let me add a disk? if i do, and make the table and fs from a live-cd and reboot, the system stops with some weird error05:58
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jager|worksome weird error?05:58
jager|workcan you be more specific?05:58
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nuxilubuntu_, a weird error for you may mean something for others05:58
_kuja_screenshot/pastebin of the weird error?05:59
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ubuntu_yeah, i have seem more, something with that init could not be found05:59
ubuntu_but as soon as i unplug the new disk, all is just fine05:59
ubuntu_*seen05:59
_kuja_What kind of disk?06:00
_kuja_IDE, SATA, USB, Firewire?06:00
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ubuntu_seagate barracuda 7200.10 sata3gb/s  750GB06:00
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ubuntu_hehe06:01
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_kuja_I've got two barracuda 250gbs ...06:01
ubuntu_yeah they seem to be fast06:01
nuxilseagate was my first 1 GB disk :)06:01
ubuntu_the 7200.10 line that is06:01
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snamai have an old fujitsu 15.3 GB 5500 rpm06:01
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snamaIDE06:02
_kuja_so lets see here, what is your primary drive, seeing as you can't mount the 750gb?06:02
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nuxildo a df06:03
nuxilto check no trying to mount a exsiting one06:03
nuxil*no/not06:03
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ubuntu_SATA1-port is my new seagate, SATA2-port is my old 300GB diamondmax dapperD with LOTS of data, SATA3-port is my old 300GB diamondmax with my stuff06:04
ubuntu_SATA2 has a bootable flag06:04
nuxilhmmm why did hda become sda in kernel 2.6.1906:04
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_kuja_ubuntu_, which drive do you ahve ubuntu installed on?06:04
snamai need help with one thing. when i installed the Fgrlx driver on Kubuntu 6.10 the KDM doesnt show up when i reboot it. i can only start X by doing startx as root06:04
ubuntu_SATA206:04
ubuntu_which was SATA1-port06:05
nuxilwhats new in edgy compared to dapper ?06:05
_kuja_Hmm, try unplugging any and all IDE drives, and then booting?06:05
snamamostly bug-fixes i guess. and some new programs06:05
_kuja_nuxil: kde 3.5.5 is a plus06:05
ubuntu_but when i added the new disk at SATA3 after i got it partitioned, it didn' t boot... so i thought, let's forget dapper and install edgy on the new disk06:06
nuxil_kuja_, is that all?06:06
_kuja_No06:06
snamawhy dont you check on their site06:06
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nuxil_kuja_, i got 3.5.5 in my dapper06:06
buzhow do i force linux to rescan usb devices?06:06
_kuja_Yes, but try to start Kaffeine from the terminal in dapper with kde 3.5.5, I dare you.06:06
buzafter resuming from suspend to disk usb subsystem doesnt work anymore06:07
_kuja_Unless they've done another update since the last time I ran 3.5.5 in dapper ...06:07
snamawhen i installed the Fgrlx driver on Kubuntu 6.10 the KDM doesnt show up when i reboot it. i can only start X by doing startx as root06:07
_kuja_In other words, there are issues with it in dapper.06:07
snamacan someone help me plz?06:07
nuxilbuz, reconnect them. fysicaly06:07
buznuxil: doesnt help06:07
buzthey dont show up06:07
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ubuntu_and that turned out to be questionable because then i have to know wheter two bootable flag will hurt the system06:07
buznot even on dmesg06:07
ubuntu_so i was trailing...06:07
nuxilbuz, try unsuspend the disk with hdparm06:08
ubuntu_was scared and came here06:08
buzits not a disk06:08
buzits mostly my mouse06:08
buztho usb disks dont get detected either06:08
buzits like whole usb subsystem is dead06:08
buzeven though the modules are reloaded06:08
_kuja_ubuntu_ your problem is weird indeed06:08
buzi need to unload all usb stuff before suspend06:09
nuxilsmod |grep usb06:09
nuxil*lsmod06:09
buzyeah, 6 modules using usbcore06:09
buzall fine06:09
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nuxiltry reloade the modules06:09
buzusbcore               134912  7 usblp,usbkbd,usbmouse,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd,usbhid06:09
snamai got to go and shit now man06:09
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_kuja_that's wonderful snama06:10
ubuntu_yeah, well, if i could install edgy on the new disk on SATA1-port without getting in troubles with previous bootable flags it will fly i guess. But it is scary with my load of data06:10
buzwhy would bootable flag destroy data06:10
_kuja_Well, so long as corruption doesn't happen, and it shouldn't, you should be save ubuntu_06:10
_kuja_*safe06:10
buzreloading all usb modules doesnt help eithrer06:11
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_kuja_As per the bootable flags, I've never noticed any differences when using or not using them.06:11
_kuja_I don't even bother setting them anymore.06:11
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buzwinwoes gets confused without06:12
buzother than that they arent really needed i guess06:12
Rob-Westwinblows sucks06:12
_kuja_Oh, I haven't used/setup windows in a couple years, so I guess I wouldn't know :D06:12
nuxilbuz, does this only happens if X is running?06:12
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buzi sent the machine to suspend while i was in x, but i have it switching to VT1 first06:13
Rob-Westi switched to linux 2 weeks ago06:13
nuxilther might be a bug in the Xorg driver for usb06:13
buzif i dont switch to VT1 i get garbled gui after resuem06:13
_kuja_A wise choice Rob-West!06:13
dettoaltrimenti_if you don't have a registered domain name, can people still access an apache server you set up if through your ip address?06:15
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buznuxil: gets weirder than that, if i do suspend to ram after suspend to disk and then resume, i can use the keyboard and mice again06:15
buzall usb stuff06:15
buzso obviously powersaved does some black magic06:15
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_kuja_dettoaltrimenti, maybe, if you have a static ip06:16
ubuntu_thanks for info _kuja_06:16
ubuntu_and rest06:16
nuxilbuz, sounds weird06:16
_kuja_yw ubuntu_06:16
buzmhh try some more06:16
buzi'm almost there06:16
buzi never had suspend to disk working while using nvidia binary drivers06:16
buzif that will work, this laptop is perfect06:16
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dettoaltrimenti_how do I check my ip in the terminal? ipconfig?06:16
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_kuja_unsure, it'd have to be the ip that your ISP assigned you06:17
bgsteffensi just mounted a hard drive but i do not have access to it! >_>06:17
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bgsteffenshow can i change permissions on a mounted drive >___>06:17
Chousukedepends on the filesystem06:17
bgsteffensext306:18
Chousukechmod.06:18
Chousukemaybe there's some GUI tool for it too06:18
Chousukelike right-clicking the files in konqueror and looking at properties or something06:18
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bgsteffenswell it looks like it yea06:18
bgsteffensbut it says i don't have permission06:19
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Chousukebgsteffens: then you're not the owner of those files.06:19
bgsteffenscan i do like a sudo in kde?06:19
nothlitChousuke, there is06:19
nothlitkdesu?06:19
Chousukehmm06:19
snamaiam back06:19
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bgsteffensshould i not have mounted the device as root?06:19
Chousukebgsteffens: is it an external drive or something?06:19
nothlitbgsteffens, kdesu konqueror ... is that what you mean?06:19
bgsteffensno, internal driver06:19
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Chousukeno, that should not matter.06:19
Chousukewhat files does it contain?06:20
bgsteffensempty, i want to move old files to it06:20
_kuja_Chousuke, bgsteffens, good old fstab. You can set most anything regarding permissions in there. Then umount, remount, and you're good to go.06:20
bgsteffensto get them off ntfs06:20
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Chousukebgsteffens: hmmh06:20
Chousukebgsteffens: I think you need a chown operation06:20
bgsteffenskuja: you can set permission in there?06:20
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_kuja_bgsteffens, mmhmm06:21
Chousukebgsteffens: if you do chown -R username.username /drive/mount/path that should make the drive "belong" to your user.06:21
Chousukebe careful not to do it on /, though!06:21
snamayou know all, i think all Linux and BSD people should make some more propaganda in public places06:21
bgsteffensi put /dev/hdd, /media/temphd, auto, rw, user, noauto, 0, 006:22
Chousukeauto and noauto together?06:22
snamain cities, squares and malls06:22
Chousuke:P06:22
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bgsteffensi copied above lines generated by os...........06:22
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bgsteffensauto is for type06:22
bgsteffensnoauto under options06:22
Chousukeah, true06:22
Chousukebgsteffens: do you need to have multiple users with access to the drive?06:22
_kuja_what fstype are we working with?06:22
Chousukeext306:23
ubuntu_oh, btw, does it matter if the disk on SATA1-port is on /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sda? (seems the installation forces me todo that when the other disks are SATA2 and SATA3)06:23
Chousukeit should be trivial06:23
bgsteffensno :( i just want to transfer 300 gb from one drive to another and then i'm done :(06:23
Chousukebgsteffens: you just need to change the owner of the drive06:23
Chousukethat doesn't require any remounting06:23
_kuja_yeah, a simple chown -R should do the trick06:23
ChousukeI have no idea how to do it in a GUI, but it's simple from the command line06:24
ChousukeThis is kind of funny, actually06:24
bgsteffenschown root:staff /u? lol06:24
ChousukeMaybe people complain that Linux is difficult to use because they're always given instructions in CLI commands :P06:24
_kuja_chown -R users:users /path/to/mountpoint?06:25
snamabgsteffens: you can burn it all onto DVDs hehe06:25
RealisticDragonone line somewhere thats easy to find or 13 button clicks in random locations :P06:25
bgsteffenssnama: would take forever.. after how long i've been trying to do this tho lol06:25
TheGateKeeperChousuke:  hmmm thought that made it easy, copy --> paste06:25
bgsteffensi should've just used dvds in the first place ;P06:25
Chousukebut telling them to "type <random magicks here>" instead of "click there, and there, and there, and... oh, you were using fluxbox?"06:25
snamaDVD906:25
Chousukeeasier06:25
Chousuke:P06:26
RealisticDragonas long as no one tries the old just type sudo rm -rf / thing :P06:26
snamaany1 here uses the Baghira theme for KDE?06:26
bgsteffensk i did sudo chown root:brian /media/temphd06:26
_kuja_hehehe06:26
bgsteffensno error but06:26
bgsteffensroot still owns06:26
Chousukebgsteffens: of course.06:26
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Chousukebgsteffens: you specified root as the owner.06:27
_kuja_you need chown -R! the -R is important06:27
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Chousukeand you need to say brian:brian if you want to be the owner.06:27
Chousukethe second username is actually a group name06:27
bgsteffenssudo chown -R brian:brian /media/temphd?06:27
Chousukeyeah06:27
Chousukethat makes you own the drive.06:28
bgsteffensok whew06:28
ubuntu_0_o06:28
_kuja_and every file on it06:28
bgsteffensmkdir worked06:28
bgsteffens:D06:28
ChousukeI suppose there's no need to give other users access?06:28
_kuja_w00706:28
bgsteffensno need but06:28
Chousukein that case, you'd have to make a group.06:28
bgsteffensoh i see06:28
Chousukeit's simple, really06:28
bgsteffensthanks for the search term for the future06:28
bgsteffensi never know what to write in google for what i want to know lol06:28
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ChousukeI think you can make groups from some account management tool in KDE06:28
RealisticDragonkuser06:29
bgsteffensyea i think i saw something like that06:29
Chousukethen you can just "sudo chown brian:group" whatever files you want the group to be able to access06:29
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_kuja_I don't think ubuntu installs kuser by default, but systemsettings has a clone of it in it.06:29
bgsteffenscool cool ^^06:29
Chousukealso, chmod to modify permissions to the files.06:29
bgsteffensi like linux for the command line lol06:29
ChousukeDo you know how permissions work on ext3?06:29
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bgsteffensnope =/06:30
Chousukethere's the owner, the group, and others.06:30
bgsteffensi thought i saw something in KDE that looked like ftp permissions lol06:30
Chousukeeach have their own permissions.06:30
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Chousukethey are exactly like ftp permissions.06:30
_kuja_read, write, and execute06:30
bgsteffensniceee06:30
bgsteffens:D06:30
Chousukeor ftp permissions are exactly like UNIX permissions, actually.06:30
Chousuke(or POSIX? terminology... ;()06:31
_kuja_Sure, why not06:31
bgsteffens;P06:31
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bgsteffensok thank you everyone06:31
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bgsteffensthe migration to linux nightmare has subsided just long enough for me to go to work06:31
Chousukethe problem people are having with no permissions on NTFS drives is because of incompatible permission schemes.06:31
bgsteffensi'll be back with more questions another day >=D06:31
_kuja_oh my, work, how horrible06:31
ChousukeNTFS doesn't have simple POSIX permissions, so you need to "emulate" them when mounting a nNTFS drive :/06:32
Chousukean*06:32
_kuja_transitioning to linux is kind of like eating a warhead, or a fireball06:32
bgsteffensall at once or none at all?06:32
bgsteffensor burns you no matter what ;P06:32
ChousukeLinux requires you to be able to change the way you think.06:33
Chousukethe generic windows user doesn't have a clue as to what "permissions" even are06:33
_kuja_nay, I speak of the candies ... burns at first, but soon enough they're quite sweet :)06:33
bgsteffenshehe06:33
Chousukebut in Linux, they're an essential part of what keeps Linux secure :P06:33
bgsteffensi've used windows most of my life except for dos (which i miss)06:34
ChousukeDOS didn't even have permission support :D06:34
bgsteffensalways programming06:34
bgsteffenscan't wait to get going programming in linux06:34
bgsteffens^^06:34
Chousukeor rather, the filesystems didn't.06:34
bgsteffensyea but it was command-line06:34
Chousukeheh06:34
Jucato(what do you expect from an OS that doesn't ask *your* permission to "dial home"?)06:34
bgsteffensi like to know exactly what i'm doing lol06:34
ChousukeI wonder what kind of trouble users are going to have when Vista blows these "you don't have permission to write to this file" messages at them.06:35
bgsteffensvista will have permissions?06:35
ubuntu_nope06:36
_kuja_There will be a lot of job openings for help desk positions?06:36
Chousukewell, it will default to non-admin user I think06:36
Chousukesince they're probably used to running as admin and having permission to do anything they want06:36
bgsteffensoh lol06:36
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ChousukeXP does have permissions too. very advanced and flexible ones too06:36
Chousukejust that everyone runs as admin06:36
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bgsteffensjust everyone runs as admin eh06:36
Chousukeand everyone expects you to run as admin06:36
_kuja_Not everybody.06:36
Chousukewhich makes the whole thing useless.06:36
Chousuke_kuja_: almost everyone, then :P06:37
_kuja_My parents win_xp computer, of course, isn't set up in such a foolish manner :)06:37
ChousukeI've tried running it with non-admin.06:37
Chousukeit's a pain to set up, and a pain to use.06:37
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_kuja_Indeed.06:37
_kuja_A very big pain.06:37
Chousukethere's always some app that needs more permissions06:37
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Chousukeand then you need to hack registry and permissions to make that app work.06:38
_kuja_or if permissions somehow get changed, oh,l the nightmare that is modifying permissions in winxp home06:38
ChousukeIt's not Windows' fault, really :/06:38
_kuja_Yes it is.06:38
bgsteffenshaha'06:38
Chousukewell, not XP:06:38
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ChousukeXP's*06:38
ChousukeIt's just legacy software from the Win9x time when they had no permissions :P06:38
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_kuja_If it didn't set users up to be admin by default, applications wouldn't be written expecting users to be admins.06:38
Chousukeand still some apps get coded in a stupid way06:39
ubuntu_i asked MS once how todo that, they refused to tell me how to get it done, i had to pay for it :(06:39
bgsteffensO_o06:39
Chousukeubuntu_: eh?06:39
bgsteffens++google06:39
_kuja_had to pay for what, ubuntu_?06:39
ubuntu_yeah, it was because i had oem license i guess06:39
Chousukehad to pay to get documentation about how to write working software?06:39
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ubuntu_for support06:39
Chousukewhat kind of sad platform is that... oh :(06:40
_kuja_the usual kind that microsoft promotes?06:40
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Chousukegood developer documentation is kind of essential :/06:41
Chousukebut it sucks if you have to pay to access even basic stuff like that.06:41
ubuntu_i dunno, just called them and need to verify a lot of numbers and them the awnser was probably only ment to given for corporate use, at least, that is my guess06:41
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ubuntu_holy f, typo's....06:42
ChousukeMaybe the info is available on MSDN somewhere.06:42
_kuja_No need to fret about microsoft though now, now is there.06:42
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_kuja_just ask the question/etc aleksanteri?06:42
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aleksanteriso: how do i run a php file in the terminal?06:43
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aleksanteriin win you could do a batch file "php.exe" "file_to_run.php"06:43
aleksanterihow you do it in linux?06:44
_kuja_perhaps "php filetorun.php"?06:44
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trappistaleksanteri: php5 -f file06:44
trappistper the man page06:44
aleksanteriok06:44
aleksanterithx06:44
aleksanteriwill try that06:44
ubuntu_yeah you're right _kuja_, but it got me a bad feeling back then, i was overwhelmed by arrogance. Anyway...06:44
osloi dont want korgac run when i run kontact how can i do ?06:45
_kuja_configure -> configure kontact06:45
nuxilHey06:45
_kuja_uncheck korgac?06:45
nuxilhas anyone used Kommander ?06:45
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nuxilis ther a way to make the spinboxses or the slidrers use desimals like.. 3.14 and so on? i have only gotten it to use hole int's like 1 ; 2 : 3 so on.06:47
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sampo-If I got free space at my hard drive end, and I want to make new partition, does it effect to other partitions? In software-raid howto says, that if make changes to partitions, array must stopeed.06:50
ChousukeAnd you have software RAID?06:51
sampo-Yes06:51
ChousukeHmm.06:51
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ChousukeI'm not sure if it only means changes in the partitions that are part of the RAID set already.06:52
sampo-ok, and does linux use /boot -area after boot?06:52
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ChousukeI have no idea.06:52
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Chousukebut just creating a partition from free space should not affect other partitions if you don't do resizing or moving. However, the RAID might be sensitive to changes to the disk as a whole too. :/06:53
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_kuja_umount everything on the disk(s) before making any changes, a good policy to follow.06:54
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bXidoes one of you know any sound edit/recording tools cept for audacity06:56
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LjLbXi: kwave06:57
LjLbXi: and soniK, not in the repositories, but the author has an Ubuntu package i think06:58
nuxilenergyXT ;E06:58
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nuxil$$$06:58
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nuxilhttp://www.xt-hq.com/06:58
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LjLbXi: only a Breezy package actually :-\06:58
LjLand a debian sarge one, you might try that, with the obvious caveats of course06:59
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stamenhi06:59
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bXiand compilable from source i guess07:00
stamenhow to cd in directory which is separated by spaces in console07:00
stamen?07:00
bXiuse \ in front of the spaces07:00
bXilike\ this07:00
stamen10x07:00
_kuja_or put the filename/location in quotes07:01
bXior type the first few letters and press tab07:01
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stamenbXi: how this will be -> Toni Braxton - Un-Break07:01
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stamenToni\ Braxton \- \Un-Break ?07:01
eMaX_re07:02
bXijust type Toni<tab key>07:02
eMaX_did I already say that ubuntu is cool...07:02
bXior Toni\ Braxton\ -\ Un-Break07:02
stamenok07:03
stamenin this variant  just type Toni<tab key> it shows posibilities07:03
bXithen type the next letter07:04
bXiand press tab again07:04
stamenok07:04
stamenyes, now ot works07:04
stamendid anybody knows how to modify a playlist made with winamp under windows to make it readable for linux07:05
stamenbecause it makes the drives in win with letters, but in lin u know how they are07:05
bXiwith what program are you trying to play it?07:05
eMaX_anyone uses kopete here? I apparently wants to store my im passwords in kwallet. so a) kwallet keeps asking me for whether it shall have access (I'd like to say, yes, forever), and then I keep getting asked for each im provider password.07:05
stamenamarok07:05
stameneMaX_: me07:05
bXithen i dont know if it can import them07:05
stamenwith what progwam you can07:06
stamenand how to make them to be burned to a cd07:06
stamenafter that07:06
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_kuja_emax, with kwallet, you can set your master password to nothing, and it won't bug you anymore, assuming physical access to your computer is secure enough.07:06
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eMaX_well you know when I look at the kwallet settings, I see "kopete" "grant always" (or what it's like in English)07:07
eMaX_and yet it keeps bugging me07:07
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_kuja_And yet it will. It grants permission to use the wallet, yet you'll still have to input the master password.07:08
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eMaX_this is particularly useful.07:08
aleksanteriok i used aptitude to get php5 but what's the command now? :P07:09
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eMaX_php (Enter)07:09
eMaX_:D07:09
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aleksanteribash: php: command not found07:09
aleksanteri:P07:09
aleksanterii tried that before07:09
_kuja_php5 <enter>07:09
hazard_anyone have any experience with TV cards and linux?07:10
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aleksanterino07:10
_kuja_not I07:10
Dr_willishazard_,  using MythTV right now on my other machine. :P)07:10
Dr_willisgot a Hauggpage 15007:10
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hazard_specifically, I only care about video in to the computer's display, not watching cable07:11
aleksanteri_kuja_: no07:11
nuxilhaha i got a better card :P07:11
nuxilpvr 500 :P07:11
Dr_willisMine was on sale + remote after rebates = $4007:11
Dr_willis:)07:11
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hazard_Haha! mine is an ancient Rage128AIW! P3hear my l33t piles of junk.07:11
nuxilim using a logitech remote :) harmony07:11
Dr_willishazard_,  an ati all in wonder card.. may not work at all07:12
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eMaX_Kompose is really cool07:12
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hazard_See, that's what I'm trying to figure out, but I can't seem to find anything related either way.07:12
nuxilDr_willis, do you have issues that some bin or img files do not play in myth?07:12
eMaX_stamen, do you ever have problems being regularly disconnected from msn with kopete?07:12
nuxilmovie bin & img files07:13
_kuja_aleksanteri: sudo locate -u && locate php | grep bin07:13
aleksanteriok will try ;)07:13
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stamenno07:13
impacthi all07:14
_kuja_hi impact07:14
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aleksanteri_kuja_: and?07:15
impactI try to get sound working for Enemy Territory, ... using artsdsp, can anybody tell me what to do? all stuff I have seen on forums like artsp -m does not work07:15
_kuja_what did it ouptut? should be a list of binaries with php in their name ...07:15
_kuja_bound to be one of them :P07:15
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aleksanteriok07:15
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impactif I deactivate the sound server sound works ...07:16
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nuxilimpact,07:17
impactbut I want to listen to music AND play Enemy Territory with sound AND have Teamspeak running ...07:17
impactis there a proper way?07:17
nuxildid you get that?07:17
aleksanteriworks! thx07:17
nuxilimpact, i sent you a script in om07:17
nuxil*pm07:17
impactnot I haven't07:17
nuxil1 sec07:18
impactsry i have it thx07:18
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nuxilhttp://pastebin.ca/27909407:18
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eMaX_has anyone here vmware running w/ nat ?07:22
_kuja_nat?07:22
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cloakablenetwork address translation07:23
impactstill does not work @nuxil07:23
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nuxili have had this issue,, but i dont remember how i fixed it hehe07:24
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impactif i dactivate the sound server it works :P07:24
impactmaybe there is a way using dmix07:24
eMaX_network address translation07:25
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compilerwriterI am not certain which irc client I like best.  Gaim or Konversation?07:25
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nuxilimpact, did you do this07:26
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zorglu_compilerwriter: entirely up to you07:26
nuxilgo to the install dir of teamspeaker07:26
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nuxilthen open the teamspeaker script07:26
nuxilnot bin file07:26
impactteamspeak is not installed atm07:26
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nuxilthen you change the line that looks like07:26
impacti play music with amarok and want sound with et07:27
compilerwriterAlthough I shall have to find a way to to turn off the sound with every time a person enters or leaves.  That is getting annoying.07:27
compilerwriterGaim is the prettier enterface though.07:27
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nuxilTeamSpeak.bin $* to artsdsp -m /path/TeamSpeak.bin $*07:27
compilerwriterKonversation works reasonably well though.07:27
zorglu_hehe07:27
zorglu_compilerwriter: thanks for sharing :)07:27
impacti have already tried that nuxil07:27
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impactwith the et script07:28
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nuxilimpact, set your amarok to use xine and not artsd07:28
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nuxilthen you disable the kde soundsystem07:28
nuxilamaork engine to xine07:28
impactah ok07:29
eMaX_my problem is: I have an internal network card on 192.168.1.53/24 and configured the vmnet8 adapter to 192.168.2.1/24; inside the vmware, I have 192.168.2.128/24, and I can ping from 192.168.2.1 <=> 192.168.2.128 both ways. I also want to be able to ping from 192.168.2.128 => 192.168.1.53, yet I'm not able to.07:29
eMaX_I assume I need something like port forwarding or whatever on ubuntu / host system so that this works07:30
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_kuja_compilerwriter, kopete works well enough too :)07:30
compilerwritergood lord emax07:30
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eMaX_oh long time noone called me that way...07:30
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nuxileMaX_, ping -I $interface ip07:30
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compilerwriterI just found one failing with gaim.  It doesn't highlight when someone types using your nick.07:31
trappisteMaX_: you need separate static routes for 192.168.1. and 192.168.2.07:31
compilerwriterDoes kopete do that.07:32
mc__compilerwriter: do you indeed write compilers?07:32
_kuja_highlight when people use your nick? Yeah07:32
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_kuja_or it can beep. Only way to get my attention really07:32
compilerwriterI haven't attempted such a thing in years.07:32
eMaX_trappist on the host system?07:32
_kuja_were said attempts successful?07:33
trappisteMaX_: yes - btw I wouldn't use that for your vmware subnet07:33
compilerwriterI once was one of the esoteric programmers though.07:33
eMaX_trappist do you know the exact syntax?07:34
compilerwriterI am about to show my age when I tell you I cut my teeth on a sequent.07:34
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trappisteMaX_: the syntax, yes - the exact command you need, no.  the 'route' man page is helpful though.07:34
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zorglu_!codecs07:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:34
compilerwriterWorking with linux has been like a blast from the past.07:34
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compilerwriterThough I never did much system administrative work back then.  I am learning a whole new end of things in that regard.07:35
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eMaX_trappist something like? route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev vmnet8 - this doesn't work but do you spot the error?07:38
impactstill no success07:38
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slow-motionhallo07:48
trappisteMaX_: looks pretty close.  does it give you an error message?07:49
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digiluxhm07:53
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eMaX_hey question how can I sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward07:56
eMaX_obviously ">" is not "sudoed"07:56
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fdovingeMaX_: echo 1 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward07:56
trappisteMaX_: echo 1 | su...07:57
trappistwhat fdoving said07:57
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trappisteMaX_: also, sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=107:58
fdovingeMaX_: it's actually just 'tee' without the -a, to have the > effect. -a is for >>07:58
eMaX_works but also outputs a "1"07:58
trappisteMaX_: yeah that's what tee does07:58
trappistredirects input to stdout and a file07:58
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eMaX_ echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward >/dev/null works. thanks all08:00
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BluesKaj!pastebin08:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:06
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imagineAnyone has ever used moodin?08:07
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BluesKajtrying to install Fuse and  ntfs-3g , check this out ... I get an error saying line 13 is bad .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37031/08:09
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whiste27hey there08:10
imagineAnyone has tried to install moodin plugin? I can't compile it it crashes all the time08:12
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dettoaltrimenti_I have saved my passwords in kopete many times, but whenever I restart it always asks me for my passwords again. What's the deal?08:13
RealisticDragonhm kopete is using 120KB/sec to the MSN server08:13
RealisticDragonoh, turn off the keyring dettoaltrimenti_08:13
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dettoaltrimenti_you mean kwallet?08:13
RealisticDragonyep08:13
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dettoaltrimenti_should I just uninstall kwallet? or is it useful for anything08:14
RealisticDragoni think you can disable it to test08:14
RealisticDragonand its useful on a shared machine i guess08:14
dettoaltrimenti_thanks08:14
ubuntu_hola08:14
ubuntu_someone speak spanish???????????/08:14
fdoving!es | ubuntu_08:15
ubotuubuntu_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:15
ubuntu_#ubuntu-es08:15
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RealisticDragonescribe /j #ubuntu-es08:15
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teja_in english guys..plz08:17
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sgorilla80anyone know the cost of a ds308:21
teja_inkow08:22
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teja_but im forget hehe08:22
caseyomahIs there a way to "Dock" standard applications (Lock to edge and maximize for other apps doex not cover app)?08:23
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caseyomah(...or lap under "Docked" app)08:24
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caseyomahI can put the app where I want it, I can make it not able to move even, but resizing the "desktop area" to not include it I can't figure out.08:26
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caseyomahAny help?08:28
RealisticDragoni think you need a tiling window manager for that08:28
RealisticDragonim not sure kde can handle it08:28
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RealisticDragonyou can set always on top but thats about it08:28
RealisticDragonright click on the title bar and go to advanced08:29
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caseyomahYeah, I know about always on top, but I don't want underlap either. :/08:30
lucahi everyone08:30
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lucadoes anyone know how to make beryl use a window manager?08:30
RealisticDragontry ubuntu-xgl luca08:31
RealisticDragon:)08:31
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RealisticDragon!beryl08:31
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:31
lucaas a command?08:31
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RealisticDragonthe channel :)08:31
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lucaoh thx :D08:32
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max_luca: do you need help installing beryl?08:34
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blackflagIm trying to get the apche2-perl module running. So I installed libapache2-mod-perl2 and doing a2enmod but can not find a perl modul08:41
blackflagwhere is it?08:41
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blackflagcan somone help?08:41
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cntbviva mexico RealisticDragon08:43
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RealisticDragonim english ;P but i agree with the sentiment :)08:44
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ernzHi everyone.08:46
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ernzDoes someone know of a way to make windows remember their position and dimensions on re-opening?08:47
RealisticDragoni thought it was like that by default?08:47
cntbkubuntu does it KDE does it08:48
ernzMine doesn't...08:48
cntbdefault does it08:48
ernzThis is a clean install.08:49
RealisticDragonodd :)08:49
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RealisticDragonmaybe theres a WM setting that got flipped somewhere08:49
teja_guys,how to operate knoppix and kubuntu`s opperation in the same time ....08:49
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The_Machinehow to make yahoo mail my default mail in kubuntu?  :)08:50
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xfreexwww.davetsiz.org08:53
teja_guys,how to operate knoppix and kubuntu`s opperation in the same time ....how realistic??08:53
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xfreexwww.davetsiz.org www.davetsiz.org www.davetsiz.org www.davetsiz.org www.davetsiz.org www.davetsiz.org www.davetsiz.org www.davetsiz.org08:53
RealisticDragonteja_: you can have both installed, and there are a number of ways to run both at once08:54
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teja_thanx08:55
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max_anyone use Beyl?08:55
max_Beryl808:55
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teja_what is it??max08:57
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RealisticDragon!beryl08:57
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:57
RealisticDragonthat ;)08:57
fabio_someone can help me with toshiba a100-925 and omnibook module?08:57
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max_how do you update beryl from the svn and get all the svn plugins?08:57
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teja_thanx guys..see you09:05
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max_how do i install a deb?09:08
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RealisticDragon!dpkg09:08
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.09:08
RealisticDragonyou need to use that :)09:08
filthgrinderHi, how do I uninstall a driver that I have compiled from source?09:09
RealisticDragondkpkg -i whatever.deb if i remember right09:09
max_ok09:09
max_thanks09:09
RealisticDragonfilthgrinder: modprobe -r drivername09:09
filthgrinderthanks :)09:09
banjooieAlright, I am retarded and I have somehow lost my sound.09:09
banjooielspci finds the sound card.09:09
banjooieAmarok knows there's sound, no programs complain about it.09:10
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banjooieThe headphones I'm using work.09:10
RealisticDragonchecked the levels with alsamixer? (console app)09:10
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filthgrinderand how do I "unmount" a driver..?09:11
banjooieThe master's set to near full, and I can't see what else is down that would need to be putup09:11
RealisticDragonthats what modprobe -r does09:11
RealisticDragonit unloads it from the kernel09:11
filthgrinderhmm09:11
RealisticDragonnothing is set to mute banjooie?09:11
banjooieNot that I can see.09:12
RealisticDragontried restarting the sound system? something like /etc/init.d/alsa restart09:12
banjooieI've rebooted my entire computer already.09:12
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filthgrinder$ sudo modprobe -r snd09:12
filthgrinderFATAL: Module snd is in use.09:12
filthgrindero009:12
RealisticDragonsomething is using it then >:)09:12
filthgrinderwell... no :(09:13
filthgrinderbecause when I started my computer today, I had no sound at all09:13
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filthgrinderseems like -something- has been screwed up really bad09:13
filthgrinderwhen I do dmesg I get loads of errors from the sound driver09:13
filthgrinderunknown symbols and what not :s09:14
RealisticDragondoesnt sound good09:14
filthgrindersure doesn't :s09:14
filthgrinderI'm suspecting that MAYBE the compiler used the wrong kernel headers when I compiled it09:14
sampo-I've got /dev/sdb4 for /boot -area. How do I move /boot from root to sdb4?09:15
nuxilSo anyone around that has played with Kommander ? kmdr09:15
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filthgrindercus my current kernel is 2.6.17-10-generic, but I also have k.h. for 2.6.17-10 in my /usr/src09:15
banjooie....So, uh, besides alsamixer09:16
banjooieAny other ideas?09:16
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RealisticDragonnot off the top of my head, sorry09:16
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banjooieAlright, thanks09:17
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filthgrinderbanjooie: I've had kinda the same problem, just that my mic didn't work (I got sound on the speakers, but no output when I used i.e. Krec. Try googling it, there are LOADS of howtos and troubleshooters for sound problems..09:18
caseyomahI have Main Panel and another Panel loaded and Configure Panels claims I have Main Panel and a Dock Application Bar.09:18
filthgrinderimho the sound structure in linux kinda sucks :/09:18
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syntaxxis there a shortcut ket to change desktop to 1 and so on?09:19
filthgrinderthere are like 253 different mixers, and not all are doing what they claim, and even if you turn "sound system" OFF in system settings, i.e. amarok still plays with no problem09:19
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filthgrinderRealisticDragon: can the fact that I installed VMware last night have anything to do with the matter?09:22
filthgrindereverything was working just fine back then..09:23
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RealisticDragonit might do, vmware inserts a kernel module i think?09:23
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filthgrindermight be, I dunno. I just installed it so that I can try installing winXP through it when I physically remove it from my computer09:24
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Partywhy doesn't my bash-script run in /Autostart at bootup? It is executable.. Any ideas please?09:25
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STDI need some help D:09:25
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STD1) Does anyone know how to turn on pixel hinting? And 2) I can't read my DVD-RWs that i need with all my music on them x_X09:26
RealisticDragonsub pixel hinting can be set under fonts int he control panel09:26
RealisticDragonapperance>fonts>configure09:27
STDAh thanks. Hopefully that helps.09:27
Partyhm got a new kopete in the repositories today.. but there's no sign of 0.12.3 anywhere on the web?09:28
Partyweirdness09:28
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STDSo nobody knows how I can get my DVD-RWs to read D:09:28
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RealisticDragonhmm well they should read ok std09:29
RealisticDragonthe drive reads normal DVDs no problem?09:30
STDYeah.09:30
buchan__Is there a way to convert to regular Ubuntu in Kubuntu?09:30
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STDI used drag-and drop kinda thing to put all my stuff on them in window.s09:30
STD:/09:30
RealisticDragonbuchan__: install kubuntu-desktop09:30
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STDAnd now when I go to open the dvd it doesn't show any files D:09:30
RealisticDragonthe package in the repo09:30
buchan__RealisticDragon: Other way around09:30
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zetazholA09:31
buchan__Kubuntu to Ubuntu.09:31
RealisticDragonyou want to go to ubuntu? then install ubuntu-desktop09:31
buchan__Naturally :)09:31
buchan__Thanks09:31
RealisticDragonnp09:31
zetazhellow fron spain09:31
RealisticDragonhi zetaz09:31
zetazhi09:31
kaajavilinuxhi09:31
filthgrinderwhy would anybody switch away from KDE :s09:31
RealisticDragonSTD: does your windows software use some wierd packet writing system?09:31
kaajavilinuxalguien habla en espaol?09:31
zetazsorry for may bad english09:31
RealisticDragon!es09:32
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:32
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kn3!fr09:32
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:32
kaajavilinuxthank09:32
filthgrinder!no09:32
ubotuHvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!09:32
kn3:)09:32
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STDRealisticDragon: it might D: You usually have to make the disk compatible before reading on other drives. But I figured it was the same drive so it would work >_>09:32
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RealisticDragonits probably the driver thats funky not the hardware ;)09:32
RealisticDragonlinux can hndle standard multisession disks fine but im not sure what packet write formats it can read09:32
RealisticDragonmaybe you can read the disk via k3b?09:33
STDWhat's that?09:33
snamai dont like the Gnome version of Ubuntu09:33
RealisticDragoncd/dvd writing software09:33
STDI am a ubuntu n00b D:09:33
RealisticDragonalt-space k3b to run it :)09:33
STDis k3b on here by default?09:33
RealisticDragonyup09:33
snamaits nice being a noob09:33
snamalearn stuff09:33
snamaiam a noob09:34
STDHmm Ima try that09:34
snamai learn everyday about linux09:34
STDNah K3b isn't reading it either ;-;09:35
RealisticDragonmight need to finalise the disk then :o09:35
Macrishi guys...09:35
STDI can't >_>09:35
snamahey09:35
RealisticDragonah, windows has already gone? :/09:35
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STDYeah09:35
snamamaybe you burned it without the ridge rock09:35
STDand I cant' even get it back with system restore09:35
Macrisi need o video editing tool for kde any ideas?09:35
STDbecause of grub09:35
snamamaybe you burned it without the ridge rock,09:35
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Macrisi cant get cinelerra easily installed09:36
snamaif iam right Unix systems cant read without ridge rock extensions09:36
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STDRealisticDragon:  http://foodfight.org/log/Misc/how-to-get-rid-of-grub I tried using the method he showed in there but I'm not exaclty sure how to do it09:36
Rob-Westi need help09:37
Rob-WestVMware workstation cant find09:37
Rob-Westrpm -U --replacepkgs  '///home/robert/Desktop/VMware-workstation-5.5.3-34685.i386.rpm';echo RESULT=$?09:37
Rob-Westerror: Failed dependencies:09:37
Rob-West/bin/sh is needed by VMwareWorkstation-5.5.3-34685.i38609:37
Rob-Westwoops09:37
snamago on09:37
Rob-Westheres the problem09:38
Rob-Westrpm -U --replacepkgs  '///home/robert/Desktop/VMware-workstation-5.5.3-34685.i386.rpm';echo RESULT=$?09:38
Rob-Westerror: Failed dependencies:09:38
Rob-West/bin/sh is needed by VMwareWorkstation-5.5.3-34685.i38609:38
snamahehe you dont have the libraries needed to install that09:38
Rob-Westit cant find /bin/sh09:38
snamadoes it say what is missing?09:38
Rob-Westno09:38
snamai mean what package09:38
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Rob-Westhow do i install the libraries09:39
snamahey w8 a sec09:39
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snamaif that is RPM you have the wrong package09:39
snamaubuntu doesnt use RPM09:39
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snamaits Debian based and therefor uses DEB packages09:39
Rob-WestKPackage will install .rpm packages09:40
snamabut it sounds very strange09:40
snamayou sure?09:40
Rob-Westyes09:40
snamak09:40
Rob-Westi need to install the libraries i guess09:40
snamawell its the dependencies you need, its easier to install some apps from source09:41
snamabcoz then you get to know what you need when you ./configure09:41
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caseyomahI found a workaround for my docking issue, I put a panel under the app and set the app always on top.09:41
Rob-Westhow do i install dependencies09:41
snamabut i think its best for you if you get the DEB version of the package if it is possible09:42
Rob-Westits not09:42
Rob-Westunless i use alien to convert it09:42
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caseyomahalien does dependancy checks.09:42
snamayea09:43
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snamathen you should know09:43
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pielgrzym!pastebin09:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:43
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snamawhat to install in order to install then thing you want t install09:43
filthgrinderRealisticDragon: you're right, VMware DID come with its own kernel headers.. I removed vmware now and am recompiling the drivers09:43
filthgrinderhopefullt it'll work again :] 09:43
refus3dplease direct me website where i can learn about changing themes in KDE09:43
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caseyomah!kde-theme09:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-theme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:44
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caseyomahGrr. lol09:44
snamait should stand how to compile the themes in the readme's you get with the themes09:44
ollie!jack09:44
ubotujack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-11 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 580 kB09:44
ollie:P09:44
filthgrinder!jackoff09:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jackoff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:44
filthgrinderhrrhrr09:44
snamalol09:44
refus3ddues!!09:44
snama!hey whats up09:45
ollieim having problems with jack on kubuntu amd64...09:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hey whats up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:45
olliecan i get support here or is this not a support chan?09:45
STD!GRUB uninstall09:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about GRUB uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:45
ollieoh wait it seems it is lol09:45
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snamait should be a support channel09:45
halter73you can get support ollie09:45
snamathats the fine thing about communities09:46
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snamayou get help from kind people09:46
ollie:)09:46
ollieive got an issue with jack audio connection kit09:46
halter73ok09:46
olliei run qjackctl09:46
ollieand i get these errors09:47
olliewait il pastebin them holdon09:47
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refus3ddudes how do i use themes manager09:47
Rob-Westhow do i get /bin/sh back09:47
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Rob-Westor will i need to reload Kubuntu09:48
refus3d!dekorator09:48
ubotudekorator: KDE theme manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2fix1-1 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 296 kB09:48
halter73the kde theme manager? Rob-West09:48
Rob-Westno09:48
Rob-Westits a directory09:48
refus3ddoes any one use dekorat?09:49
snama<refus3d> go to konsole and run kcontrol, go to appearence and theme manager09:49
olliedoh.. just realised what i did09:49
Rob-Westill dig out my Kubuntu cd09:49
olliei installed jack as opposed to jackd with apt09:50
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olliehaha09:50
olliecheers anyway guys.09:50
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halter73or you could just go to System -> appearance Rob-West09:50
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snamahalter sorry but theme manager is not in the system setting in kubuntu09:51
Rob-Westits not the friggen theme crap09:51
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snamayou need to run kcontrol09:51
snamaits the default srttings manager in KDE09:51
snamaKmenu > run command > kcontrol09:52
snamaor konsole > kcontrol09:52
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mildnernabend#09:53
snamarob west you found it?09:53
Macris!video editing09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video editing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
Macris!video09:54
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications09:54
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snamaiam so tired i think i will go to sleep now09:55
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snamai hate getting up in the morning09:55
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snamagoodbye everone09:56
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Ace2016hi all09:58
Ace2016does kubuntu have a startup service manager?09:58
RealisticDragonyes, its under advanced on the control panel09:59
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refus3dhow do i start dekorator09:59
mango12hello09:59
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refus3dit isnt "dekorator"09:59
mango12how can i edit the package sources to get kernel-source by apt-get? :)09:59
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banjooieI fixed my sound.10:01
refus3ddudes10:01
banjooieIt was the fucking analog/digital switch.10:01
refus3dcome on how to i start dekorator10:01
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Ace2016does kubuntu have a startup service manager?10:03
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The_MachineAce2016:  i'm so confused about KDE startup10:04
The_Machinei mean10:04
The_Machinesupposedly in home/user/.kde/Autostart10:04
The_Machineif you have anything in there they will autostart10:04
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The_Machineso make a link to that dir if you want it to load10:04
The_Machinewhen it comes to making things NOT load10:04
The_Machinei have some stuff in there that is loading that isn't in there10:04
The_Machineand aren't services10:04
The_Machineand i dont' get it.10:04
steveireis there a channel apart from kate, kde-devel, kde that can answer this question: Is it possible to write kate plugins with python, or is c++ neccessary?10:05
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apokryphossteveire: my brother's actually working on making kate scritable with python, so stay tuned :)10:05
steveireapokryphos: hmmm, what do you mean scriptable? And who is your brother?10:06
MacrisThe_Machine: could it be something to do with kde sessions?10:06
The_MachineMacris - sorry, not sure what you mean..10:07
apokryphossteveire: pluginable. He's develops for kde, though he generally works with kde-accessibility. His irc nick is Cerulean10:07
apokryphoss/He's/He/10:07
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Macrisas i recall kde loads the last session while you login10:07
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steveireapokryphos: ah, right. Useful. I'll keep that in mind. It'll be a while before I can give it any time anyway.10:08
Macrisso if u live some apps running while shutdown the pc, they will autostart the next time you login10:09
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Macrissorry my english its bee a while... live=leave10:09
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mindspinmy keyboard is messed after hal-update any hint? I have to push the buttons for about a second to show up10:11
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digitalfreedomhow can i get hydra? i tried to add a repos for it and it keeps crashing synaptic..so i deleted the repos listing10:11
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nibletshow do copy song from a CD onto my computer, then turn them into MP3?10:22
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nibletsim on Kubuntu edgy10:23
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mildnerkann mir jemand etwas zur neuinstallation von kbuntu sagen10:24
steveire!de10:24
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:24
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steveirevas eest dine probe Lem?10:25
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mildneris it english here10:25
steveiremildner: Yes.10:25
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Guardianhi10:26
Guardiankde won't start anymore10:26
Guardianfailsafe login works10:26
steveirehmmm,10:26
Guardianwhich log file should i check10:26
steveireYou install beryl?10:26
steveireor anything else new?10:26
Guardianwas installed previously10:26
mildnerok is anybody able to tell me something to newinstallation especially partition of the harddisk10:26
Guardiandid not touch the box for a week10:26
Goliath23niblets: use KAudioCreator10:26
Guardianberyl is installed10:26
Guardianbut not started automatically10:26
steveireGuardian: And now what happens? Do you get a text login prompt?10:27
steveiremildner: What is the question?10:27
Guardiani can login using the failsafe session10:27
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Guardianthen i can even launch beryl-manager and it works10:27
Guardianstartkde won't10:27
Goliath23also: if you insert an audio cd a pop up window should appear where you can select the action that starts kaudiocrator10:27
Guardianit kills xserver10:27
mildnersorry I have to leave......10:28
mildnerthank you10:28
digitalfreedomxf86config guardian10:28
mildnersorry10:28
digitalfreedomi think10:28
Guardianwell i removed all fancy stuff in xorg.conf10:28
steveireGuardian: Oh, so you can see kdm? I don't think I can help.10:28
Guardianyeah i can see kdm10:28
nibletsGoliath23: Thanks,10:28
Guardiani can log using failsafe session10:28
digitalfreedomwhats a good repos for hydra10:28
Guardianfrom failsafe session i can even start beryl10:29
steveireniblets: Put in the cd, open konqueror, and go to audiocd:/10:29
steveireThen just copy and paste from whichever format you want10:29
Guardianbut startkde will just kill the x server just before i would be able to use it10:29
Goliath23steveire: yes, another possibility, very nice one :)10:29
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Guardiani have nothing in my Autostart folder10:29
Goliath23but I think you have to start kaudiocreator once to select a codec10:29
Guardianhow can i remove session settings ?10:30
steveireGoliath23: Very. I wouldn't use KAudioCreator myself after finding that.10:30
steveireah.10:30
steveireGuardian: Sorry, I don't know. Can you create a new session? Or create a new user and log in with that?10:30
Goliath23at least it was like that a few minor versions ago10:30
Guardiani just removed .kde10:31
Guardianit works now10:31
Guardianweird10:31
nibletssteveire: That sounds easier.10:31
nibletsI will see if I can manage that little amount of work10:31
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steveireGuardian: And, yet, it makes a bit of sense.10:31
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nibletssteveire: Yea, I'm lost10:32
mindspinmy keyboard is totally messed up since an update (hal) today10:32
mindspin I have to push the buttons for a second to show up10:32
steveireniblets: ?10:32
mindspinnow I started konversation from filesafe to be able to type10:32
Goliath23niblets: for mp3 you have to choose the lame encoder. make sure you have that installed using adept..10:33
nibletsI opened the audio cd window, but it came up and said "could not get CDDB information10:33
Goliath23just start adept, search for lame and install.10:33
nibletsohk10:34
steveirecddb is a database that will get the names of your songs automatically.10:34
Goliath23niblets: the program tries to get CDDB information (track and artist name and so on) .. those information is mostly found on original audio cds if it's a burned one, it wont be able to download any matching info10:35
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Goliath23so the files it will create will be named "Track1" and so on10:35
digitalfreedomGoliath23: yes10:35
nibletsI am in adept, there are about 15 results for lame, do I get them all?10:35
Goliath23no10:36
Goliath23just the package that is named "lame"10:36
niblets"aint an MP3 encoder" one?10:36
Goliath23right10:36
nibletscool10:36
nibletsapplying..10:36
Goliath23don't let the name fool you :)10:36
nibletsI know that much with Linux10:36
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nibletsso its installed, what do I do now?10:37
Goliath23after that: 1. open konqueror 2. type "audiocd:/" (without ") in the adressbar and hit enter 3. navigate to the MP3 folder 4. copy the mp3 files to the harddisk10:37
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nibletsAn error occurred while loading audiocd:/:10:39
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Goliath23niblets: you could also start Kaudiocreator from the multimedia section in your start menu. but I find using konqueror better. the audiocd:/ protocol gives you a list of virtual files in different formats that you just need to copy10:39
Goliath23niblets: any information on the error?10:39
Rob-Westim downloading a Kubuntu DVD10:39
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eilkeri see my desktop in 2 minutes 45 seconds, dual boot xp and kubuntu, i have lamp,ftp,dhcp,samba,cups,vmware,dns servers, is it normal ?10:40
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nibletsWhen I put in the cd, it started audioCD by itself, and I selected LAME as the encoder. But I cant find how to start teh encoding and copying10:40
Goliath23niblets: make sure you have the package "kdemultimedia-kio-plugins" installed.10:40
nibletsGoliath23: How do I do that?10:40
nibletsWait, im in kaudiocreater10:41
Goliath23niblets: start adept, type in a part of the name, check results..10:41
nibletskk10:41
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nibletsyup10:41
nibletsinstalled10:41
Goliath23strange10:41
nibletshow do I drive Kaudiocreator?10:42
Goliath23wait10:42
Goliath23did you type audiocd:/ or audiocd:/: ??10:42
Goliath23try the first version10:42
Goliath23in konqueror10:43
nibletswill do10:43
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nibletsAn error occurred while loading audiocd:/10:43
nibletsCould not read .10:43
jontecwhy is the package libgems-ruby1.8 not avaliable for amd64? My other kubuntu computer can find it, but this one can't... T_T10:43
jontec!libgems-ruby1.810:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libgems-ruby1.8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:44
nibletsIts strangee, I have Kaudiocreator running, and it reads the cd, and shows teh tracks, I just cant rip them10:44
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Ace2016How do i edit the startup services? the ones which start when the computer is started and the blue kubuntu logo is there with the thin progress bar10:44
Goliath23niblets: isn't there a gear to click on?10:44
jontechuh? I have it listed as a package on my other computer right now10:44
STDCan someone help me x_X I'm trying to reinstall my windows using my system restore DVD but grub does't let me boot into windows once everything is all formated and windows is installed D:10:44
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jontec!rubygems10:44
ubuntu_ok, i have problem with the partioner10:44
nibletsThere is, but when I click it I get 13 errors saying "could not read /dev/cdrom10:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rubygems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:45
jontecT_T why are all of the ruby packages missing!?!10:45
steveireSTD: Reboot with the windows cd, and get ino recovery mode. Then restore the MBR10:45
jontec!ruby10:45
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uboturuby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB10:45
Ace2016nevermind kcontrol has a module for it, i'll try it10:45
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Goliath23Ace2016: and if that doesn't work, read "man update-rc.d" on how to do it using the command line10:46
steveireSTD: Get that one?10:46
dettoaltrimentibefore I mount a device, is it under the same name in the folder /dev? for instance, if a mounted device is /media/ipod, would you mount it by typing 'mount /dev/ipod'?10:46
frank___!flash10:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:46
Goliath23niblets: hmmm10:46
steveiremount /dev/ipod /media/ipod I think.10:46
nibletsits not a copied cd either.10:46
dettoaltrimentiand eject /media/ipod right?10:47
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frank___anyone know a repository for the latest flash 9 beta?10:47
crimsun_use -backports10:47
STDsteveire: I don't have windows cd I only have the system recovery dvd that came with my computer10:48
steveiredettoaltrimenti: I thought umount /dev/ipod/ I've not had to use mount in a long time though10:48
steveireSTD: That should do.10:48
Goliath23niblets: did you try another cd? do you have problems accessing data cds on your pc?10:48
STDWhen I boot from the restore dvd it just asks me if I want to restore my computer to factory defaults D:10:48
steveireI think there's something about a recovery console10:48
nibletsGoliath23: I'll ry another CD now, but I dont have problems with data cds10:48
STDAfter I restore it to factory defaults and install windows when it asks me to reboot to finish grub comes up and gives me an error10:49
Ace2016Whats kde-guidance? its running on startup10:49
Ace2016Description: collection of KDE system administration tools for GNU/Linux10:49
frank___crimsun_: thanks I didn't even think of checking backports10:49
ollie!jackd10:49
ubotujackd: JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.101.1-1 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 352 kB10:49
steveireSTD: You may be able to get a program to restore the windows MBR. Google for it. The problem is that Grub is in your MBR instead of the windows bootloader.10:50
dettoaltrimentican anyone give me some help getting my ipod to work with amarok? I don't really even know where to begin.10:50
nibletsIt must be the cd, my other one worked10:50
STDI know I can get a grub boot disk to let me back into windows but I don't know how to make it.10:50
Goliath23niblets: glad to hear that. did you try audiocd:/ now as well?10:50
Goliath23I bet you'll like it more.10:50
steveiredettoaltrimenti: Settings > Media devices or something. Add device10:50
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nibletsno, I just used the kaudiocreator which starts up automatically in KDE Daemon10:51
Goliath23niblets: ok, stop it and try the audiocd:/ protocol, its an order! :)10:51
STDhttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html <--- Where Do I use the commands in that walkthrough, I tried in the konsole but it doesn't do anything D:10:51
nibletsWhy is that?10:51
nibletssame error10:51
steveireSTD: If that was your solution, you'd need the disk each time you booted. You want to restore the windows bootloader to the MBR10:51
Goliath23hmmmm10:52
Goliath23maybe you're still missing a package10:52
nibletsI blame yoi10:52
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niblets*you10:52
niblets=P10:52
Goliath23:)10:52
Goliath23check if kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins is installed..10:53
nibletskk10:53
nibletsI have to stop cloing Adept10:53
STDsteveire: It told me to use that in a walkthrough I was reading and then changing the settings once back into windows D:10:53
Ace2016rsync is running on startup, can i disable it?10:53
Ace2016isn't that a gentoo app?10:53
Goliath23yes :)10:53
STDAnd the only bootloaders I could find for windows were floppy disk ones ;o10:53
steveireoh, ok. Just put the files on a cd10:54
Goliath23Ace2016: rsync is just a tool to syncronize files with minimum overhead.10:54
STDso if I can get one to boot dos then I can just type in windows and it should work?10:54
nibletskfiel is indeed installed10:54
niblets*file10:55
Goliath23niblets: okay, you know what? I don't know! :)10:55
nibletsSmae here10:55
chupa-chupsany one here know about python10:55
steveireSTD: http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse91/suselinux-adminguide/html/ch07s05.html First google hit. I'm sure there's more appropriate ones to your situation10:55
nibletsDamn, all I can listen to is my other 11GB of music =P10:55
steveirechupa-chups: What is your quest?10:56
Goliath23doesn't kaudiocreator work now?10:56
chupa-chupsi am a bigginer10:56
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dettoaltrimentiwhat is the preconnect and postconnect commands for the ipod in amarok?10:56
Ace2016Goliath23: why is it running on startup? does it do something on startup?10:56
PsiKloPxCan someone recommend a good newsreader?10:57
chupa-chupsi have a code calculate area of 3 shapes , i have error i cant explain10:57
nibletsIt does, but not for the first cd10:57
Goliath23Ace2016: I bet it does something, if it runs! if you don't know exactly what it does, better leave it in there.10:57
steveirechupa-chups: What are the shapes? Do any of them work?10:57
chupa-chupscould u plz chek the code10:57
chupa-chupslook10:57
steveireDon't paste it here10:58
steveireUse a pastebin10:58
chupa-chups#filename:areas.py10:58
chupa-chupsi=int(raw_input('''choose the shpe :10:58
steveireDon't paste it here10:58
chupa-chups1- circle10:58
steveireDon't paste it here10:58
chupa-chups2- square10:58
olliehi, anyone good with ardour & jack?10:58
chupa-chups3-rectangle10:58
steveirechupa-chups:10:58
chupa-chups : '''))10:58
steveireDon't paste it here10:58
chupa-chupsif i==1 :10:58
chupa-chups    r=int(raw_input('enter the radius of the circle : ' ))10:58
chupa-chups    premeterc = 2*3.14*r10:58
olliei cant get my m-audop delta 66 to record in ardour10:59
chupa-chups    areac = 3.14*r*r10:59
olliebut it works in audacity10:59
chupa-chups    j=int(raw_input('''enter your choice of  :10:59
steveirechupa-chups: Stop!10:59
Partyi love drugs10:59
chupa-chups    a-  premeter10:59
steveire!ircops10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ircops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:59
chupa-chups    b-  area : '''))10:59
chupa-chups    if j == a :10:59
steveirebah!10:59
chupa-chups        print "premeter is : ",premeterc10:59
steveire!cops10:59
chupa-chups    elif j == b :10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:59
PsiKloPxanyone recommend a good newsreader?10:59
chupa-chups        print "area is : ",areac10:59
steveireWhat's the command I'm looking for?10:59
Partyif a=="d-" else return10:59
steveiregnomefreak:10:59
Partyb-area. int "hello world"11:00
Ace2016Goliath23: thanks11:00
Partylol11:00
gnomefreaksteveire: ?11:00
nibletsGoliath23: I tihkn I know the problem11:00
Goliath23niblets: what is it11:00
Goliath23?11:00
steveiregnomefreak: Sorry, for future ref, what's the bot command to get irccops?11:00
gnomefreaksteveire: !ops11:00
chupa-chupssorry11:00
chupa-chupshow can i send it to u11:01
chupa-chupsok11:01
steveiregnomefreak: Thanks11:01
gnomefreakyw11:01
chupa-chupssorry11:01
chupa-chups???11:01
Goliath23chupa-chups: use a "pastebin"11:01
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nibletsI'm probably wrong, but the default CD drive thats mounted (I have two) is the other one11:01
chupa-chupshow11:01
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chupa-chupsiam beginner11:01
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steveirechupa-chups: Did you not see me saying don't post it here many times?11:02
Goliath23chupa-chups: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin pastebins are used to share code without spamming the irc channel11:02
lupulcan anyone tell me pls what i have to write in xorg.conf to make my ati radeon work better?11:02
Goliath23check this article, at the bottom you find links to pastebins you can use.11:02
nibletsI think I am wrong11:02
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steveirechupa-chups: Is the area "Cannot concatenate str and int objects"?11:02
Goliath23niblets: well, but that sounds reasonable11:02
nibletsWAIT!!!! I AM RIGHT!!!!11:02
nibletsit worked11:03
Goliath23niblets: it could well be the problem11:03
Goliath23yep11:03
chupa-chupslook11:03
Goliath23audiocd:/ too?11:03
nibletsThe only problem is I dont knwo where kaudio rips them to11:03
gpatersonHi all11:03
lupul!xorg.conf config11:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:03
Goliath23niblets: does audiocd:/ work now in konqueror?11:04
dettoaltrimentiok I got the ipod working on amarok... thanks guys11:04
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gpatersonAny of you guys know much about PIM syncing?11:04
nibletsGoliath23>yes11:04
chupa-chupsthere is an error occures in step of11:04
chupa-chups  j=int(raw_input('''enter your choice of  :11:04
chupa-chups    a-  premeter11:04
chupa-chups    b-  area : '''))11:04
Goliath23niblets: then use that, it's more comfortable I think. you can copy the whole mp3 folder.11:05
nibletsBut they arent MP3s by defeault11:05
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chupa-chupssorry i cant deal with irc well , this is the only way to present my code if any of u have an idea to show in another place , say it11:05
nibletsGoliath23: They are WAV files, and I dont know how to change them other then Kaudio11:06
dettoaltrimentiquestion: in konqueror, you type "/' to search for a term: is there any way to 'find next" with this, like in firefox?11:06
Goliath23chupa-chups: I described it a few lines above11:06
Goliath2323:02]  <Goliath23> chupa-chups: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin pastebins are used to share code without spamming the irc channel11:06
steveireniblets: You should have folders like wav, mp3, ogg11:06
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steveiredettoaltrimenti: f311:06
dettoaltrimentithanks11:06
steveireshift f3 is previous11:06
jerpchupa, it's posted in the channel notice when you enter so keep this under your hat; Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org |11:07
nibletsyea, so I open them, and what?11:07
steveirecopy+paste11:07
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Goliath23niblets: copy them to your harddisk and they will materialize :)11:07
steveireYou say it's wav files in each folder?11:07
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steveireniblets: Don't copy all of them though, that's just wastage.11:08
Goliath23niblets: those a virtual files, they get encoded on the fly when you copy them11:08
nibletsonly MP3s11:08
Goliath23s/a/are11:08
chupa-chupsgoliath its german site i want english site plz11:08
steveiregpaterson: What is PIM synching?11:08
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gpatersonkitchensync - that sort of thing11:09
mango12when i type /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart i get: "* Linux >= 2.6.13-rc1 requires pcmciautils instead of pcmcia-cs"11:09
mango12pcmciautils is installed11:09
chupa-chupssteveire u didnt answer me yet11:09
nibletsGoliath23: Well that's my one problem a day over.11:09
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ernzHELP! :(11:09
steveireniblets: What was yesterdays problem?11:10
ernzThere's always something, isn't ther?!11:10
Goliath23chupa-chups: sry. just go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste your code there and the url you get here...11:10
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mango12someone know something about my problem? google dosnt help11:10
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nibletssteveire: Amarok cutting up my MP3s (not decoding the first 2min of about 4GB worth)11:10
levi_hi11:10
steveirehmmm11:10
mango12ive got pcmciautils in the newest version11:10
levi_for some reason i can log into samba shared folder11:10
ernzI have searched high and low for a way of mounting my Creative Zen Microphoto on Kubuntu and have found nothing useful. Can someone Pleaaase help me?11:10
nibletssteveire: But that is fixed now11:11
levi_access denied11:11
levi_anyone have this problem?11:11
levi_mounting NTFS drive from windows comp to linux box on lan but access denied... any tips?11:11
gpatersonDoes anyone know anyone who knows there way around kitchensync and kdebluetooth?11:12
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chupa-chupsgoliath , i get there and i paste my code then what i have to do ???11:12
Goliath23chupa-chups: don't drive me mad please11:13
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ernzgpaterson, I use KbluetoothD, that any use?11:13
Goliath23chupa-chups: you get a small link from that sites. post it here.11:13
levi_ive disabled firewall11:13
chupa-chupssorry but i told u iam new user of both irc , python11:13
chupa-chupsok ok thanx11:13
Goliath23chupa-chups: no offence :)11:14
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ernzZen Microphoto MTP device on Kubuntu, anyone help please?11:14
gpatersonernz my device appears in KbluetoothD. Not all works 'tho11:14
eilkeri see my desktop in 2 minutes 45 seconds, dual boot xp and kubuntu, i have lamp,ftp,dhcp,samba,cups,vmware,dns servers, is it normal ?11:15
ernzgpaterson, what are you trying to get to work?11:15
gpatersonPIM sync my mobile phone with Kontact ernz11:16
nibletsGoliath23: Problem two for today, not so much of a problem, but I want to change something11:16
Goliath23shoot ;)11:16
nibletsIs htere anyway to make it so Konqueror doesnt take ages to reconnect to the server everytime you click a link online?11:17
nibletsLike, itll open a window, stay connected to the net, then go back to normal in like 5seconds11:17
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nibletsso everytime It goes to a new page, it reconnecys, refinds the site, then loads11:17
nibletsit makes my 2mb net seem like idalup11:17
niblets*dial11:17
Goliath23really? that sound more like a slow dns server or a faulty one in your /etc/resolv.conf . for example if the first one isn't working, there is a timeout and the the second entry is queried.11:18
nibletsSo how do fix/solve this problem?11:19
nibletsOr is it just un-fixable11:19
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Goliath23I think the reconnecting behaviour is just normal. imagine every http client would like to maintain a connection to the every server it loads something from. all servers would be limited to 65535 connections or less.11:20
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nibletsthats a good point11:20
Goliath23no. you could try to use other dns-servers. do you get your dns servers from your provider via dhcp or do you type them in by hand?11:20
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nibletsbut Firefox has no problem with it, nor windows internet explorer when im on windows11:20
gpatersonernz thanks! goto go11:20
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ernzgpaterson >> LMAO I just had the answer for him11:21
nibletsSo it cant be the ISP11:21
Goliath23niblets: maybe firefox does it's own dns caching. just a theory11:21
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nibletshmm11:22
nibletscould be11:22
Goliath23that would mean firefox would only be affected by the problem the first time a new server is accessed11:22
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nibletsyea, maybe I should just stick to firefox for webbrowsing11:22
Goliath23do you know how to use a command line editor on the konsole?11:22
nibletsand konw for everything else11:22
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mike____f11:22
nibletsI know how to use the konsole and all that, but I dont know how to do a lot o stuff on it11:23
nibletsonly basics, like getting to graphics drivers (thanks Beryl) and mounting, unmounting things11:23
Goliath23can you edit text files in konsole?11:23
nibletspretty hazy on that one11:24
nibletsD=11:24
Goliath23if yes: type sudo <insertyourfavouritetexteditingprogramhere> /etc/resolv.conf11:24
mike____hi guys when i do this command mysql> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, INDEX, ALTER, CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES, LOCK TABLES ON database1.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword';  I get error ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ON database1. *  TO 'mike'@'localho11:24
niblets"localho" that made me lol11:25
Goliath23enter your password. the file should contain at least two ip adresses at the top. change their order, to see if that's the problem11:25
nibletsSo, what text editor would I put there11:25
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nibletsI havent used a text editor on Linux since ever11:25
Goliath23kate maybe11:25
steveiretry kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf11:25
Goliath23yes!11:25
steveirenot sudo11:25
nibletskk11:25
nibletswhy kdesu?11:25
steveireit's graphical sudo11:26
nibletsohk11:26
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steveireapparently sudo kate breaks things11:26
Goliath23okay. I have to go to bed. good luck niblets!11:26
Goliath23cu all11:26
nibletsCheers, have a good sleep11:26
steveirenn11:26
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ubuntuok, i did more or less what was suggested. Now i have the error 15 when i point grub to the proper partition11:26
nibletsresolve konfig came up11:27
ubuntuwhen i remove the two other disks i have error 2111:27
niblets*conf11:27
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steveireniblets: What do you see?11:27
steveireip addresses?11:27
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nibletsyup, two of them11:27
niblets2.1 and 8.111:27
steveirewith nameserver inf front of them>11:27
nibletsyup11:28
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steveirethey're not  ip addresses11:28
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nibletsTricky tricky11:28
ubuntui should have never bought an extra hard disk11:28
steveireip addresses look like 192.168.2.211:28
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nibletswell, yea, 192.168.2.1 and 192.168.8.111:28
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steveireok. Goliath23 was saying to change the order of them. Give that a shot11:29
nibletsso, what do I do, swap the 2.1 with 8.111:29
nibletsand vice cersa11:29
nibletsversa11:29
steveireyes.11:29
nibletswhat is that going to do?11:29
nibletsshould I save it?11:30
Ace2016night all, bye11:30
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Goliath23niblets: yes, save it11:31
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Goliath23restart konqueror and try if its getting better11:31
nibletsYou are still around?11:31
steveireA nameserver holds a list of ip addresses and human readable hostnames. type host www.ubuntu.com to make a query to your nameserver. it looks ub the hostname you give it and it gives you back an ip address. Goliath23 thought that your computer is using a slow nameserver, and you should make another one default11:31
Goliath23although it looks like you have some router/modem device running at 192.168.2.1 that relays the dns reqests11:32
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nibletsthat fully just broke my internet11:32
steveireniblets: Do you use knetworkmanager?11:32
Goliath23niblets: yep. just change it back and it will work again11:32
nibletsok11:33
nibletsThat didnt like it11:33
nibletssteveire: no, I dont think so11:33
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Goliath23you could surf to your ISPs website, search for their nameserver IPs and put them there to try it.11:33
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Goliath23IF the dns server is the problem at all... just a wild guess11:34
Goliath23okay, have to go11:34
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nibletsI noticed the two IPS were my routers, I have a wireless connected to a normal, connected to the ISP router. So really I jsut swapped my wireless with my cabel, and vice versa11:34
nibletsohk, seeyou11:34
niblets*Ip addresses11:35
nibletsnot IPS11:35
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ubuntuwhy is the installation giving me other /dev/location than the live cd, damit11:35
ubuntu(sorry, talking loud)11:36
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Rob-Westcan someone help me setup my insternet11:36
Rob-Westi just reinstalled Kubuntu11:36
notechniblets: what's the problem?11:36
weedarDoes anyone know how I can discover the actual URL of a video stream? All I have atm is the ip and port, able to play it in vlc11:37
nothlityou also need to protocol?11:37
nibletsnotech: Just something I was trying to work out with another guy about DNS servers. But hes gone, and It's not too urgent, just a preference sort of thing11:37
nothlitits probably just http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:123411:37
notechniblets: ok11:37
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weedarnothlit: I know it's via http and that the file is asf format11:37
nothlitweedar, have you tried opening the playlist?11:38
weedarnothlit: to elaborate, I'm serving two video streams from a windows xp machine, but I want to record videos from the same stream. It's for a surveillance system11:38
francishello11:38
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nothlitweedar, just use vlc to open the stream and then click the checkbox for transcoding11:39
francisin my syslog file I have "11:39
francisDec 14 23:15:43 fixe kdm_greet[4573] : Can't open default user face11:39
francisDec 14 23:16:00 fixe kdm_greet[4573] : Internal error: memory corruption detected11:39
franciswho can help me ?11:39
nibletsGoodbye people, have a good day, the lot of you11:39
francisbye niblets11:40
nothlitweedar, just use vlc to save it11:40
weedarnothlit: my original plan was to use ffmpeg to record 1 hour long videos so I later can go back and see through the archives. ffmpeg needs a complete URL it would seem11:41
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nothlitweedar, open the playlist in vlc11:42
weedarnothlit: also, the machine with ffmpeg does not have X installed to save resources11:42
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weedarnothlit: I have, there is no file information11:42
nothlitweedar, or open the .asf with a text editor11:42
nothlitweedar, a lot of times opening the file can garner streaming info11:42
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weedarnothlit: I'm unable to open the asf file, mostly because it seems vlc doesn't save the stream when I say to..11:48
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towynchello11:49
ubuntucould there be any reason why the installer would forget to install the whole system and instead create an empty /home and /media/folders?11:50
zazzahi11:50
towynccould someone compare/contrast KDE vs Gnome11:50
towyncI know people say its personal preference, but that's not too much info lol11:50
nothlitweedar, wget http://address/file.asf?11:50
nothlitweedar, usually the asf is just a pointer11:50
weedarnothlit: sorry, I might have been unclear here..I have no idea what the filename is, all I've got is adress:port11:51
nothlittowync, this is a kubuntu channel, you'll get biased to kde11:51
nothlitweedar, wget address:port? see what happens?11:51
weedarnothlit: ah, good idea!11:51
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weedarnothlit: I get a 400 error - "bad request"11:52
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nothlittowync, kde, more flashy stuff, more configurability, gnome, simple, less confusing for the masses11:52
nothlitalso themes seem easier in gnome11:52
nothlitweedar, =/ usually I would just experiment11:53
nothlitweedar, are you using windows media encoder ?11:53
ubuntuthis is some weird shit, installed from live cd, nothing wrong, i reboot, not a single system file except /home on the system11:53
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weedarnothlit: yes I am!11:54
weedarnothlit: I looked through all the settings in it but can't find what the filename is11:54
nothlitweedar, thats odd... i've used it before and opened stuff on multiple clients on both os's11:54
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nothlitweedar, i remember being able to get more specific info11:55
Ace2016hi all11:55
Ace2016Anyone know about a gui defrag app that can show a nice map of the drive like in windows?11:55
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Ace2016actual 14006, ideal 6006, fragmentation factor 57.12%  :(11:55
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weedarnothlit: oh I'm able to open the stream itself and view it in vlc, but I'm basically stuck with using ffmpeg to record the video and it looks as if it doesn't understand the format when I exclude the asf-part of the URL11:55
nothlitnoncontinguous you mean?11:55
nothlitweedar, no but i could get alternative addresses11:56
nothlitweedar, i could help you if i started a stream right now and tried it myself, but...11:56
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Ace2016i just want to see where the fragmented stuff is on the disk11:56
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nothlitweedar, anyways gl... it sounds odd that you can't get any more info11:56
towyncnothlit yeah i already have kubuntu on11:56
towyncnothlit is gnome easier to use then?11:57
nothlitweedar, have you tried opening capture devices and streaming from vlc instead then?11:57
eilkerwhy do i get ip starting with 169.254.x.x ? dhcp problem ?11:57
nothlittowync, i suppose it could be less confusing11:57
towyncnothlit there also seems to be much support for ubuntu at ubuntuforum.org and i have yet to find a kubuntu site by itself11:57
towyncnothlit what does less confusing mean11:57
weedarnothlit: Hm, I'm unsure but I think I tried streaming with vlc but with not as much sucess as I got with the microsoft application (!)11:58
nothlittowync, just that, less options, places to go wrong, but if you like KDE theres no reason not to stick with it11:58
eilker hi nothlit11:58
eilkersorry for leaving11:58
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nothlittowync, you will probably miss some apps... i use neither anymore so..11:58
weedartowync: there is a kubuntuforums site, but there is also alot of people using kde on ubuntuforums :)11:58
towyncnothlit what do u use11:59
nothliteilker, oh anyways yeah bs=512 count=1 should work but some people like /dev/zero instead of urandom11:59
towyncweedar cool thx11:59
eilker thank you nothlit11:59
nothlittowync, fluxbox+custom mix of stuff, anyways if you're still asking about kde vs gnome, you're probably not ready for that11:59
nothlittowync, you don't get cozy automounting, or desk icons and you set wallpapers by hand12:00
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feetyif you do want those stuff, it takes a bit of extra config... and even the biggest fluxbox enthusiast cant be bothered with all the muck it takes lol12:01
nothlitfeety, what do you mean can't be bothered12:01
feetyseriously, how many fluxbox users you know who can be bothered installing desktop icons support12:02
nothlitoh, i got adesklets desktop icons working, but i like the desktop nice and clean12:02
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nothlitfeety, its more than fluxbox users don't use desktop icons... they're perfectly happy to perfect a conky setup12:02
nothlitthat*12:02
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feetylol thats what i meant. perhaps i was ambiguous in my chosen wording. apologies, nothlit12:03
towyncnothlit so genome has less features but it's easier to use for beginniners right12:03
nothlitfeety, ahh12:03
nothlittowync, less choice is more like it12:03
towyncnothlit any examples? =)12:04
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nothlittowync, um, if your intelligent, and open then there is no reason why you shouldn't use kde12:04
nothlittowync, its more that the layperson, the monitor is the computer and the case is the hard drive and the cd tray is the cup holder sort of person12:04
feetygnome has about the same amount of features. only problem is you have to use gconf-editor to get at them. for a windows comparison, thats just like editing the Windows Registry just to do the simplest task. pointless and stupid. kde has the options easily available to you. ^^12:04
nothlitThey take away most of the configurability in gnome for that sort of person12:05
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eilker!dhcp12:05
ubotudhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB12:05
eilker!dhcp312:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dhcp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
nothlitfeety, gconf-editor and sabayon is nice though12:05
towyncfeety so is it right to say kubuntu is easier to use then?12:05
Ace2016I don't have xfs_fst, what do i do? i want to defrag the partition12:05
feetyyes lol12:05
nothlitBasically gnome hides all the features/config options from you unless you really want them12:05
feetyif youre used to Windows, its for you.12:06
towyncwhat's the its, kubuntu right12:06
nothlittowync, if you're a power user, choose kde/kubuntu12:06
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nothlittowync, if you're a get my email and news done person, choose gnome12:06
towyncnothlit i'm new to linux =)12:06
feetywell kde is a good starting point12:06
nothlittowync, yeah but there are windows power users12:07
feetyits simple, similar to microsoft windows' interface, and pretty to boot12:07
towyncnothlit took me like a day to get wireless set up lol12:07
Ace2016is xfs and ext2 the only file systems with a defrag programs?12:07
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nothlittowync, just install both... theres a kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop package12:07
eilkerwhat is the difference between dhcp and dhcp3 ?12:07
feetyinstalling both is a waste of disk space12:07
nothlittowync, you can log in to either and choose which one from both kdm/gdm12:07
nothlitinstalling both is great if you're new and don't know the differences12:08
nothlitthat way you can try both and see12:08
nothlitand you get to know what apps are available12:08
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nothlitmost people choose a mix of apps from kde and gnome12:08
nothlitlike gaim and k3b are supposed essential apps12:08
Ace2016xfs_fsr isn't found12:08
feetybut if you want to remove one a metapackage, its a royal pain in the bottom12:08
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nothlitfeety, edgy has apt-get remove auto-remove now and theres aptitude12:09
Ace2016ah i need to install xfsdump12:09
nothlitautoremove minus the dash :)12:09
feetyi know. they have a knack for removing packages you NEED as well.12:09
nothlitThen use aptitude12:09
nothlityou can set flags12:09
nothlitto save what you want12:09
feetyand aptitude asks you a bunch of questions to confuse the first time user12:09
nothlitlike?12:10
nothlityes/no?12:10
feetyi remember when i was a first time user last year. it took me about two months to figure out how the heck the packages system worked.12:10
feetyif youre a windows convert, then you just want things to work. you dont want to have to keep examining removal solutions and pressing ! and e and ? and such. =\12:10
nothlitreally? I figured it out before I installed ubuntu12:10
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feetyyeah but its easy to see youre computer illiterate enough to make shakespeare want to learn linux in order to keep his position12:11
feetylol12:12
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traelodd question here folks. bare with me..  if you walk away from a computer burning a Kubuntu disk. what should you come back to say 20hours later?12:13
traelon windows.12:13
feetya finished cd with the tray ejected, i wager12:13
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nothlitilliterate?12:13
feetyliterate*12:13
traelfor some reason I came back to the Kubuntu desktop!!12:13
feetyshh im dyslexic12:13
feetyoh goodness!12:14

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