[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69452 in gst-plugins-ugly0.10 (universe) "Totem crashed in the middle of a movie" [Medium,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69452
[12:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75674 in kiso (universe) "kiso crashes on file open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75674
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75676 in grub-installer (main) "unable to write to mbr on disc (sd0)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75676
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75678 in kdebase (main) "Wish: Please consider using the SuSE-Kickoff branch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75678
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75679 in ubiquity (main) "Kubuntu installer Crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75679
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75680 in upstart (main) "Fail to reboot after upgrading from 0.2.7-7 to 0.3.1-1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75680
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75681 in initramfs-tools (main) "scripts/local-top/mdadm not being called?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75681
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75682 in libsynce (universe) "libsynce.pc missing from /usr/pkgconfig" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75682
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75684 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Edgy Eft Server / Alt. OS Install Fails with Adaptec / DPT i2o Controller but Desktop Version Does Not." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75684
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75685 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xgl - crashed while not in use" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75685
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75686 in samba (main) "dependency on update-inetd is not declared on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75686
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75687 in Ubuntu "Password requires continual reseting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75687
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75688 in openoffice.org (main) "OOo Crashes when pasting in wordpress" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75688
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75689 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when logging into Amazon.com" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75689
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75691 in bluez-utils (main) "/etc/init.d/bluetooth doesn't start dund or pand" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75691
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75692 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox causes Gstreamer error when trying to change track number " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75692
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75693 in gossip-telepathy (universe) "Cannot create new account" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75693
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75694 in gimp (main) "Cannot (re)install gimp-svg plugin after update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75694
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71642 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Speedtouch usb connection dying under Ubuntu 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71642
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75695 in grep (main) "huge performance hit for -i with UTF-8 locales" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75695
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75696 in bittorrent (main) "Bittorrent doesn't open in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75696
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75697 in emacspeak (universe) "emacspeak install script returns error value 2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75697
[05:39] <jz> hi could someone advise me on how to get bugs closed or marked as fixed on launchpad
[05:39] <Admiral_Chicago> jz: which bug?
[05:40] <jz> i have quite a few
[05:40] <Admiral_Chicago> have an example?
[05:40] <jz> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/71585
[05:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71585 in usplash "Regression: usplash does not work on Dell Latitude C400 out of the box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i see
[05:41] <jz> also would it be appropriate to close bugs that are feature requests?
[05:42] <jz> seen many of those
[05:42] <Admiral_Chicago> jz: depends on the bugs
[05:42] <nixternal> don't close feature requests, mark them as "wishlist"
[05:43] <jz> how do i mark wishlist
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: you can only WL if you're on QA
[05:43] <jz> don't see that option
[05:43] <jz> ok
[05:43] <jz> not there
[05:43] <nixternal> point me to the bug and i will wishlist it if needed
[05:43] <jz> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/72213
[05:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72213 in Ubuntu ""Restore grub" option on the Live CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[05:45] <jz> would it be possible to apply to qa team
[05:45] <jz> what are the requirements?
[05:46] <nixternal> you need to be on the bugsquad for a while and have triaged a lot of bugs, plus be an ubuntu member
[05:46] <nixternal> ok, i am sure there is a duplicate on that grub bug somewhere, but i have wishlisted it for the time being
[05:47] <nixternal> i am sure they are also working on a fix for that bug report, or something similar
[05:47] <jz> thanks, i'll stick to triaging for now
[05:49] <somerville32> nixternal: Thats not true.
[05:50] <somerville32> You don't need to be a ubuntu member to be a member of ubuntu-qa
[05:50] <somerville32> :)
[05:50] <jz> just a bugsquad pro?
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75698 in amarok (main) "amarok makes multiple credit-card charges for a single Magnatunes purchase" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75698
[05:51] <jz> "multiple credit-card charges" that must be a pisser
[05:52] <jz> got another that might warrant being put down https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/66871
[05:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 66871 in Ubuntu "can't use username or password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[05:52] <nixternal> somerville32: how do you figure?
[05:53] <nixternal> i thought everyone on the qa team was trusted ubuntu members
[05:53] <nixternal> i may be wrong
[05:53] <somerville32> I was a member of ubuntu-qa before I became a member
[05:53] <nixternal> well, i am wrong :p
[05:53] <somerville32> And several other people at the last CC were too
[05:53] <nixternal> jz: you need to be a bug mastah :)
[05:53] <somerville32> It's ok! :)
[05:54] <jz> i'll practice my bug-fu over the holidays
[05:54] <nixternal> haha bug-fu
[05:54] <jz> some of these bugs anger me
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> every bug angers me
[05:54] <nixternal> hehe, you are well on your way then
[05:55] <nixternal> man, usplash bugs need loving again...i loved them during the beginning of the edgy cycle, and they are back up to a ton of dupes
[05:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Bug #1 the worst
[05:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[05:55] <jz> i'm talking about the ones that originate between the keyboard and chair
[05:55] <Admiral_Chicago> i reported my own bug on Edgy, got it fixed
[05:56] <Admiral_Chicago> haha, yes. i have a teeshirt "it must be user error"
[05:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75699 in tetex-bin (main) "pdfcrop has no man page" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75699
[05:56] <Admiral_Chicago> sometime i just want to mark them all as "it's a feature, not a bug!
[05:56] <nixternal> oooh, i can confirm that bug
[05:56] <nixternal> tetex has angered me
[05:56] <somerville32> Whens the next hug day?
[05:56] <jz> another for wishlist: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50345
[05:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50345 in Ubuntu "cryptsetup missing in LiveCDs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[05:56] <nixternal> every wednesday i thought
[05:57] <nixternal> so, like yesterday/today
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> somerville32: i think next wednesday as well
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> that seemed to be the chatter around here earlier
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69355 in usplash (main) "usplash refuses to work" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69355
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75702 in mesa (main) "~/.drirc is not read" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75702
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71585 in usplash (main) "Regression: usplash does not work on Dell Latitude C400 out of the box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71585
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75701 in python-defaults (main) "Python crashes inexplicably upon session start." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75701
[06:43] <nixternal> hmm..it seems the bugs i set as dupes are showing up in ubugtu now
[06:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75703 in xchat (universe) "X-chat crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75703
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75704 in Ubuntu "Repeated suspend mode after 6.10 install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75704
[06:56] <somerville32> lol
[06:56] <somerville32> nixternal: You were right about usplash
[06:59] <nixternal> hehe, it is a mess
[06:59] <nixternal> i got it under control at one point, and then it took off again
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75705 in coreutils (main) "sort order incorrect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75705
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75706 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "new upstream version fixes mode save/restore problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75706
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #74540 in hal (main) "Missing mandatory properties on volume.disc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74540
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75707 in comix (universe) "Nautilus thumbnail preview is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75707
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75709 in Ubuntu "Gnome log out applet not displaying" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75709
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75710 in mysql-query-browser (universe) "Query Browser Fails on Edit Table" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75710
[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75711 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed (6.10)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75711
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75712 in Ubuntu "Kernel update hoses grub's menu.lst" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75712
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75713 in adept (main) "does not check diskspace" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75713
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71944 in wacom-tools (main) "wacom-kernel-source fails to install under edgy" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71944
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #74544 in gdb (main) "gdb _*TOTALLY BROKEN*_ in Feisty/x86_64 due to .gnu.hash unsupported in BFD it is linked against" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74544
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75714 in openoffice.org (main) "master layout is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75714
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75715 in Ubuntu "caution about my thread with list of problems/bugs on ubuntuforums.com " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75715
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71859 in rpmstrap (universe) "rpmstrap fails to correctly call basename and wget" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71859
[09:50] <dholbach> good morning
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75717 in firefox (main) "Firefox 2 crashes during shutdown of Synaptic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75717
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> goodnight dholbach
[09:52] <dholbach> sleep tight Admiral_Chicago
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75719 in evolution-exchange (main) "evolution 2.9.3 crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75719
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75720 in fontconfig (main) "Bad default values for Urdu language" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75720
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75722 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes opening some sites" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75722
[10:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75723 in enigmail-locales (universe) "Outdated dependency in enigmail-locale-fi" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75723
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75724 in gcc-4.1 (main) "bad code with boost::signals" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75724
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75725 in alsa-driver (main) "jack sense is not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75725
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75726 in xorg-server (main) "DRI broken on r128 on dual head r128 + i965 (non Xinerama)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75726
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75727 in Ubuntu "kubuntu edgy - can't disable automounting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75727
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75728 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "xv on r128 hard locked whole machine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75728
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75729 in Fedora (main) "wrong access rights on NFS mount" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75729
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75730 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "[Regression]  Automatic change of my CPU frequency is over" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75730
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75732 in samba (main) "Fails to upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75732
[11:44] <Adri2000> a bug like 75642, importance should be medium right?
[11:44] <Adri2000> https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grisbi/+bug/75642
[11:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75642 in grisbi "Not installable on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[11:47] <jonh_wendell> Adri2000, i guess High
[11:47] <jonh_wendell> Adri2000, once it's uninstallable
[11:48] <Adri2000> jonh_wendell: it's high if you look only at the package, but if you look at ubuntu, it's just an optional universe package :)
[11:48] <jonh_wendell> Adri2000, i know that
[11:48] <Adri2000> according to the wiki, medium: "Has a severe impact on a non-core application"
[11:49] <Adri2000> sfllaw: ? :)
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75733 in mail-notification (universe) "Update button is greyed out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75733
[12:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75735 in xen-3.0 (universe) "xen-docs-3.0 is an empty package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75735
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60052 in libgnomeui (main) "i was working with synaptic and firefox on xubuntu and this error popped out" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60052
[12:33] <dholbach> if we can't make a dent into the bug graphs with that, I don't know ;)
[12:33] <dholbach> thanks :)
[12:33] <dholbach> WHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:34] <dholbach> http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats
[12:34] <seb128> with combined efforts we can for sure make it go down
[12:34] <dholbach> ROAR
[12:34] <seb128> I would be happy to have - numbers for the next UWN
[12:35] <dholbach> -100 in the last 24h
[12:35] <dholbach> (open)
[12:36] <Admiral_Chicago> it's been ridiculous
[12:36] <dholbach> and -40 in the last week
[12:36] <Admiral_Chicago> considering Feisty is out and everything
[12:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i think i left over 50 changes to reports on Tuesday, don't remeber
[12:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i spend several hours trying to help with bugs
[12:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69134 in yelp (main) "Package is working but lacks index file" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69134
[12:37] <dholbach> maybe I should hack a bit on heno's tool and see if we can make something cool happen with the dup searcher
[12:37] <seb128> Admiral_Chicago: efforts appreciated ,)
[12:37] <seb128> ;)
[12:37] <Admiral_Chicago> it was my pleasure seb128
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats/#week
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> wow look at tha
[12:41] <seb128> good :)
[12:41] <seb128> efforts are paying!
[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75737 in samba (main) "Needs update-inetd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75737
[12:42] <Hobbsee> wow!  that's a lot!
[12:43] <Hobbsee> dholbach: that unassigned drop would be the change in motu-reviewers --> u-u-s, i'll bet
[12:43] <Hobbsee> oh wait, the rise
[12:44] <dholbach> Hobbsee: hum.. I subscribed uus, but didn't assign them
[12:44] <Hobbsee> yes, exactly
[12:45] <seb128> the unassigned drop is probably kiko who put money on the task :p
[12:46] <seb128> joke assigned since kiko mentionned it would be nice to clean without a package some people have been tackling that list and assign bugs too
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75740 in firefox (main) "Crash notification appeard after resume from hibernate." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75740
[01:06] <kiko> hey Hobbsee
[01:06] <kiko> how goes it!
[01:07] <Hobbsee> hey kiko
[01:07] <Hobbsee> it sort of goes
[01:07] <kiko> oh come on
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75741 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kernel BUG at net/sunrpc/sched.c:902!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75741
[01:15] <kiko> Hobbsee, tomorrow, we roll out the guided filebug form, which should reduce the rate in which dupes come in
[01:16] <kiko> so I think your task will be made easier
[01:16] <kiko> Hobbsee, how has the work gone so far?
[01:16] <Hobbsee> kiko: yay!  however, my original comment was @ sendign the mail to the mailing list
[01:16] <Hobbsee> dunno, i've been out
[01:16] <kiko> which mail to which mailing list? :)
[01:18] <Hobbsee> @ the ones without a subject to -bugs
[01:18] <kiko> did I do that? :-)
[01:19] <kiko> oh, your previous messages.
[01:19] <Hobbsee> yeah
[01:19] <Hobbsee> kiko: oh, while i remember.  you're a lp guy, right?
[01:19] <kiko> in the flesh
[01:19] <Hobbsee> oh?
[01:20] <Hobbsee> explain that?
[01:20] <kiko> my flesh is committed to launchpad
[01:22] <Hobbsee> ah
[01:22] <Hobbsee> well, anyway, why cant you make the contact address of a group another email address already in LP?
[01:22] <Hobbsee> ie, like one belonging to a person on LP
[01:30] <Hobbsee> kiko: ^
[01:30] <kiko> Hobbsee, it's a bug, but it's not trivial to fix because it requires a data model change, and that part of the data model is non-trivial
[01:30] <Hobbsee> ah
[01:32] <kiko> see, email addresses are meant to be unique
[01:33] <kiko> and they point to person records
[01:33] <kiko> so to fix this we'd need to make that constraint a lot more complicated
[01:33] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:33] <kiko> or add an MxN table
[01:33] <kiko> none of which are trivial
[01:33] <kiko> and given the fact that our 1.0 is impending...
[01:33] <kiko> but it's a noted bug
[01:34] <kiko> and I guess it's not so hard to work around it for now
[01:34] <Hobbsee> oh dear, fair enough
[01:45] <neutrinomass> When debugging suspend/hibernate, what information should one ask for ? (are the following enough ? dmesg, lspci -vv, lspci -vvn, dmidecode, /var/log/kern.log )
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75745 in Ubuntu "Cannot display "Monitor & Display" kcontrol module (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75745
[01:48] <kiko> neutrinomass, that sounds like a good list
[01:49] <Hobbsee> someone mark that as a dupe of something else
[01:49] <Hobbsee> i've seen that in kdebase
[01:49] <dholbach> neutrinomass: could you add that to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures somewhere?
[01:50] <seb128> Does somebody has an opinion on bug #55613?
[01:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 55613 in coreutils "Make link with a file 6 times happen error " [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/55613
[01:50] <seb128> basically symlink chain limited to 6
[01:50] <seb128> I'm tempted to reject the bug
[01:50] <dholbach> me too
[01:50] <seb128> is there any real world case requiring to loop chain symlink like that?
[01:51] <neutrinomass> kiko, dholbach: Ok - I'll add it to the wiki as well
[01:51] <dholbach> neutrinomass: you rock!
[01:51] <dholbach> i saw symlink-chains maybe up to 3 or 4
[01:51] <dholbach> but that's been it
[01:51] <dholbach> /etc/alternatices and friends
[01:51] <dholbach> seb128: he should provide a real world use case :-)
[01:51] <seb128> ok
[01:51] <seb128> let close it and say to reopen with some argument
[01:51] <dholbach> hey heno!
[01:52] <Hobbsee> hey heno
[01:52] <heno> dholbach: thanks for cleaning up my code dude :)
[01:52] <heno> hey Hobbsee
[01:52] <dholbach> heno: tiny pieces here and there :-)
[01:52] <dholbach> heno: I'd love to see it as a bugsquad team effort that'd change our work
[01:53] <dholbach> heno: especially if we keep the .info files up to date, it'll be great
[01:53] <heno> Hobbsee: I see your making progress on the 'ubuntu' bugs!
[01:53] <neutrinomass> dholbach: Is the bugsquad really rocking lately or is just my impression ?
[01:53] <dholbach> neutrinomass: your impression is absolutely right
[01:53] <Hobbsee> heno: me?  nah, i havent been here.  i've only been killing things w.r.t universe-sponsors, as i'm sur eyou've seen
[01:54] <heno> ah, ok but someone has brought it down to 922 now
[01:55] <heno> from 1160 or whatever
[01:55] <dholbach> I saw some getting reassigned to desktop-bugs
[01:55] <neutrinomass> On what basis do we assign acpi issues to the kernel vs. assigning them to acpi-support ?
[01:55] <dholbach> neutrinomass: that's a good question - maybe mjg59 on #ubuntu-devel can enlighten you
[01:55] <neutrinomass> dholbach: there were plenty of nautilus bugs.... they're also several mounting problems
[01:55] <dholbach> yeah
[01:55] <dholbach> hey PriceChild
[01:56] <PriceChild> hi there
[01:57] <Hobbsee> hey PriceChild
[01:57] <Hobbsee> heno: yes, they're amazing people
[01:57] <PriceChild> Hobbsee!!!! :D
[01:58] <PriceChild> uu Hobbsee check out the new cloak.... watch it swish...
[01:59] <PriceChild> :P
[02:01] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: yay!
[02:05] <neutrinomass> dholbach: here you go http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[02:06] <dholbach> ROCK
[02:06] <dholbach> thanks
[02:06] <dholbach> will look later
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75746 in epiphany-browser (main) "Characters produced by dead keys do not work with history/search list being shown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75746
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75749 in hydrogen (universe) "Crashed while trying to load a drumkit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75749
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75753 in udev (main) "Wrong group for IDE cdrom/cdwriter/dvd devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75753
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75754 in firefox (main) "crash when loaded with media plugins" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75754
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75757 in Ubuntu "Beginning of boot process a half-minute pause occurs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75757
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69328 in fileroller (main) "file-roller should work with the "7zr" command too" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69328
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75758 in Ubuntu "Firefox doesn't display new windows in new tabs despite option being set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75758
[03:36] <bddebian> Boo
[03:36] <ogra> bee
[03:36] <dholbach> hiya bddebian
[03:36] <bddebian> Heh hi ogra, dholbach
[03:40] <dholbach> seb128: I think the bughelper tool will be really good at some stage
[03:40] <seb128> dholbach: good :)
[03:41] <seb128> dholbach: I would prefer launchpad to be really good at some stage though :p
[03:41] <dholbach> both will be good at some stage
[03:41] <seb128> :)
[03:41] <dholbach> no, they'll be great!
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75760 in Ubuntu "What happened to the diagnostics on the F8 key at boot?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75760
[04:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75762 in emerald "emerald crash after click on window title" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75762
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75763 in gnome-games (main) "Sudoku crashed while playing a game" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75763
[04:07] <seb128> 399 unread bug mails, yeah \o/
[04:07] <dholbach> rock
[04:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75765 in syslinux (main) "This package should depends on mtools" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75765
[04:57] <coNP> Hi, what do you think about #75403?
[04:58] <coNP> I marked it fixed, since the debian distributors say this behavior is desired.
[04:59] <seb128> bug #75403
[05:00] <marnanel> *tumbleweed*
[05:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75403 in Debian "Gnus is duplicated" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75403
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71403 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "System does not wakeup correctly after suspend/hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71403
[05:04] <coNP> seb128: I think a specification should be filed about this, if it is a _real_ problem. What do you think?
[05:04] <seb128> coNP: should be marked rejected if that's not a bug
[05:06] <coNP> I marked it fixed, because it was fix released in Debian, too.
[05:06] <coNP> However, with the unusual "nothing should be changed" semantics of bugfix.
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75768 in gnome-keyring (main) "gnome-keyring never stores passwords (only SMB?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75768
[05:18] <a7p> someone requests a blob-scanner-driver to be delivered with ubuntu - is there any policy limiting the blob-pest?
[05:19] <a7p> #72321
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75767 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "kernel panic: killing interrupt handler" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75767
[05:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68848 in update-manager (main) "Update to edgy ruins machine" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68848
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75769 in emerald "emerald crashes when the left and right mouse button are pressed at the same time on window title bar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75769
[05:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75770 in xorg (main) "ATI Open source driver shows distorted unreadable image on Dell laptop + Apple Cinema Display 23 inch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75770
[05:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75771 in Ubuntu "Resuming from suspend freezes on iBook if suspending from a graphical session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75771
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75772 in samba (main) "Samba requires "update-inetd", but not Installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75772
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75776 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Closing the lid from a gnome session does not trigger suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75776
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75775 in Ubuntu "Battery Charge Rate Incorrect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75775
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75778 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "after update from *-10.33 to 34 no sound" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75778
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75779 in fai (universe) "fai-doc: Root password hash stored in log files." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75779
[06:16] <somerville32> ...
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75781 in psycopg (main) "python-psycopg: Missing dependencies? (libc6, libpq4)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75781
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75782 in beagle (main) "beagle-crawl-system is failing every day" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75782
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75784 in kobodeluxe (universe) "kobodeluxe: kobodl segfaults on 64 bit ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75784
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75785 in dovecot (main) "After security update (1.0.beta3-3ubuntu5.4), no service" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75785
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75787 in gnome-media (main) "[feisty]  volume-control: capture tab muting wrong PCM stream?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75787
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75786 in pcsc-lite (universe) "Compile with extended APDU support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75786
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75788 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "linux-source-2.6.17-10.34 snd_hda_intel broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75788
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75790 in apache2 (main) "NameVirtualHost is required but configtest doesn't warn about lack of it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75790
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75791 in gnome-mount (main) "ntfs-3g support?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75791
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75792 in Ubuntu "open office crashes with a copy-and-paste in a gaim chat window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75792
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75793 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 (restricted) "Nvidia driver (9631) does not work properly with rdesktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75793
[07:15] <seb128> bug #34675
[07:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 34675 in gtk+2.0 "Polish:  previously selected package isn't completely greyed when upgrading" [Wishlist,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/34675
[07:15] <seb128> do people think that's a bug?
[07:15] <seb128> insensitive GtkTreeView having the selection displayed differently
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75794 in k3d (universe) "can't install k3d on Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75794
[07:20] <jonh_wendell> :)
[07:22] <somerville32> seb128: I guess thats why it is marked as wishlist?
[07:23] <seb128> somerville32: I marked it wishlist
[07:23] <somerville32> :)
[07:23] <seb128> somerville32: when I set it as Needs Info too
[07:23] <seb128> so, do you have an opinion on it? ;)
[07:24] <somerville32> Hmm..
[07:26] <somerville32> It does look weird.
[07:27] <a7p> on bug #72321 ... it's a request to include a partially binary driver into sane-backends-extra ... who to coupe with this?
[07:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72321 in sane-backends-extras "Include Brother scanner drivers (brother2, brother)" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72321
[07:28] <somerville32> seb128: Yea, I would say thats a bug.
[07:29] <somerville32> It is certainly deceiving to the user
[07:30] <somerville32> Guess he  didn't like my answer! <g>
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75795 in mail-notification (universe) "Can't communicate with evo in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75795
[07:33] <a7p> hihi
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75796 in nautilus (main) "mounted devices shown as unmounted [feisty] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75796
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75798 in control-center (main) "terminal-to-window fontset string conversion Edgy live CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75798
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75799 in digikam (main) "digikamdcraw is missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75799
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75800 in telepathy-gabble (universe) "Crash on connect." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75800
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75801 in python2.4 (main) "Feisty: Crash when browsing menus with menu editor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75801
[08:50] <jonh_wendell> seb128, now we have Manny subscribed in lauchpad!
[08:50] <jonh_wendell> seb128, for autilus bugs, so cool
[08:50] <seb128> jonh_wendell: ah, excellent
[08:51] <seb128> jonh_wendell: I was just telling him to subscribe to nautilus-open-terminal, he's asking for a bugzilla product on #bugs from irc.gnome
[08:51] <jonh_wendell> seb128, i've contacted him a few days ago, about open-terminal bugs
[08:52] <jonh_wendell> seb128, when he said he has a LP id, i suggested it
[08:52] <seb128> excellent :)
[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75803 in gnome-power-manager (main) "non privilege user can change cpu speed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75803
[09:03] <jrib> hmm what to do with bugs that request for a program to be packaged? bug 57865
[09:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57865 in Ubuntu "Package for Frets on fire" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/57865
[09:04] <seb128> jonh_wendell: well done for suggesting to Manny to subscribe to those ;)
[09:05] <jonh_wendell> ;)
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75805 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse 3.2.1 -> File properties -> Refactoring -> Ok throw error dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75805
[09:05] <mr_pouit> jrib: perhaps you can ask him to put his request here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates ?
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75804 in gnome-power-manager (main) "performance setting missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75804
[09:06] <jonh_wendell> seb128, i see some upstream authors don't want to get involved with distros. I did not feel this in Manny
[09:07] <seb128> cool
[09:07] <jrib> mr_pouit: agreed, should be ok to reject the bug then?
[09:08] <seb128> jrib: yep, reject the bug
[09:09] <seb128> jrib: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[09:09] <seb128> jrib: there is a stock reply "If it's a packaging request of new software not already in Debian"
[09:09] <jrib> ah I see it :)  oops
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75806 in firefox (main) "Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75806
[09:10] <marnanel> yay for descriptive titles.
[09:12] <jrib> heh
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75807 in metacity (main) "metacity crash while scrolling in youtube" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75807
[09:21] <marnanel> Ooh, yay, a bug for me
[09:24] <somerville32> Is today hug day or something? ;] 
[09:25] <jonh_wendell> somerville32, next 20th
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75808 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Random PC freeze in X, possible ATI video problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75808
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75809 in nautilus (main) "Reports "Generic Error" and crashes when SSH transfer out of space." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75809
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75810 in slab (universe) "Close button in the about window doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75810
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75811 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager UI has become unnecessarily complicated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75811
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75812 in gnomebaker (universe) "sp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75812
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75789 in pcmanfm (universe) "pcmanfm crashed" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75789
[09:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75813 in qm (universe) "Error when using qmtest gui" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75813
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75814 in udev (main) "udev loads ata_piix module for SATA causing ~30 second boot delay" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75814
[10:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75815 in gaim (main) "crash after pasting text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75815
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75816 in file-roller (main) "File-roller " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75816
[10:43] <bcmSucks> critical bug 62432 is still a mystery if I were to follow one before last posting/comment
[10:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62432 in openoffice.org "Crash when copying text from OpenOffice to other applications" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62432
[10:43] <bcmSucks> can anyone talk me through oo.o update for 62432?
[10:44] <jrib> from edgy-proposed?
[10:45] <bcmSucks> yes
[10:45] <jrib> just add this to your sources.list:
[10:45] <jrib> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main
[10:45] <jrib> and ugprade the oo packages
[10:46] <crimsun_> and please note that is a TESTING repository.
[10:48] <jrib> bcmSucks: yes, only install it if you don't mind things ending up more broken
[10:49] <bcmSucks> jrib, is it known to be broken in any features?
[10:49] <jrib> I have no idea
[10:49] <bcmSucks> the bug and the solution being about three months old i would imagine this is wel tested :)
[10:54] <bcmSucks> matthias's final instructions on this bug is not working ... ie, oo.o is not presented in Software Update after giving 'apt-get update'
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75817 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Sound broken after this update." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75817
[10:55] <bcmSucks> is there anything specific that needs to be done to update the fixed oo.o?
[10:57] <jrib> bcmSucks: apt-cache policy openoffice.org    show anything in -proposed?
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> that bug sucks real bad. almost lost me a lot of work
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> i know several users that say they lost a ton of work because of it
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> "save early and save often"
[11:00] <jrib> "almost"?  did you manage to recover somehow?
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> caught myself in time
[11:01] <jrib> ah so you knew about it
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> yea i get updates on my bug almost everyday
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> in my inbox. haha. i checked my email. 10 emails about bugs / ubuntu stuff
[11:02] <Admiral_Chicago> but i think i have it light compared to some other people
[11:03] <bcmSucks> jrib, hmmm it seems updated to 'Installed: 2.0.4-0ubuntu3'
[11:03] <jrib> bcmSucks: then you have it
[11:06] <bcmSucks> jrib, i did not see oo.o listed in the graphical 'Software  Update Manager' ... with the tick boxes next to it as in the case of the kernel files, avahi etc.
[11:06] <bcmSucks> jrib, thats how i got confused. sorry
[11:06] <jrib> idk, maybe it was already installed?
[11:06] <jrib> bcmSucks: np
[11:12] <bcmSucks> jrib, did you just call me idk?
[11:12] <jrib> idk = i don't know
[11:13] <bcmSucks> jrib, i could not have had it as edgy-proposed is not automatic in sources list. no?
[11:13] <jrib> right, it is not enabled by default
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75818 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "no more sound with linux-image-2.6.15-27-686" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75818
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71532 in units (universe) "can't scroll up in help, PAGER not set to less" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71532
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75819 in Ubuntu "Adjusting mouse motion acceleration has no effect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75819
[11:21] <bcmSucks> 6432 needs at least two or three independent confirmations for each bug report mentioned in the changelog to be part of updates.
[11:22] <bcmSucks> I would like to uninstall oo.o and go through the process once more. Where best to get help on uninstall?
[11:23] <coNP> what do you think, can I reject #71532
[11:23] <coNP> This is not even a bug, I think, and surely not a bug in 'units'.
[11:35] <bcmSucks> jrib, after desired oo.o is installed i should comment out the sources list entry for 'proposed main' . no?
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75820 in Ubuntu "KDE menu empty after last upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75820
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75821 in gdm (main) "Unable to open gdmsetup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75821
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75822 in mono (main) "Sudden crash when using OpenOffice" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75822
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75823 in typo3-site-installer (universe) "[Package Removal Request]  typo3-site-installer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75823