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[12:39] aha fisty [12:40] hi jdub [12:41] yo bhale [12:41] i have an autocorrect in irssi to do that ;) [12:41] hmm, "Fisty - the Break My Python release" [12:41] so many ways that could be taken wrongly :/ [12:42] The Fawning Fist 6.09 === bhale shuts up === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] bhale: that doesn't sound right.... [12:43] yeah no kidding [12:43] that sounds like a terrible joke I'd make [12:43] I've seen worse though [12:43] bluefoxicy isnt here [12:43] im filling in [12:43] one particular non-fluent english speaker at the forums.... [12:44] in a thread he used "suppository" rahter than "repository" at least 20 times [12:44] hah [12:44] hahaha [12:44] eventually I had to go through and edit most of that [12:44] and pm him informing him of what suppository means === bluefoxicy hands jdong a pill the size of his head [12:44] You need to take this with a half a glass of water [12:44] with a nick like jdong, of *course* it sounds like a terrible joke you'd make! [12:44] because people were making terrible cracks (eugh pun) about it [12:45] <- win! [12:45] jdub ftmfw! [12:45] lol === Spads_ [n=spacehob@host-84-9-51-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:51] ok, there needs to be a really brute-force rough-around-the-edges nuclear superhammer for dealing with 3rd party stuff breaking core ubuntu functionality [12:51] ;-) [12:52] "core"? :-) [12:52] nv is workin' just great for me :p [12:53] LaserJock: I was referring to a mass apt-get install --reinstall, apt-get remove $unofficial_packages [12:53] :) [12:53] jdong: probably scriptable by examining the install source of a package. :) [12:53] keescook: certainly it's very scriptable [12:54] just someone needs to have the guts to write it :D [12:54] hah, do we need a vsabdfl package? [12:54] haha [12:55] keescook: and did I read my inbox correctly that there's more clamav patching fun for {dapper,edgy} now? [12:55] afternoon [12:55] jdong: yeah, there is. the update is giant; I've got it prep'd for dapper/edgy already, but haven't had a chance to test it yet. [12:55] hiya ajmitch [12:55] k [12:55] not in a hurry [12:55] just noted it === jdong still has to deal with that dapper-backports oversight [12:56] I'm just considering infinitely backporting from edgy-security for now :D [12:56] heh [12:56] of course that's nowhere near LTS timeframe [12:56] but meh [12:57] that'll give me 13 more months to come up with a better idea === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Bye"] === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@ip-81-170-100-10.cust.homechoice.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === robertj [n=robertj@68-117-216-83.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj_ [n=robertj@68-117-216-83.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ph8 [i=henri@rigel.orion-hosting.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bronson [n=bronson@adsl-75-36-147-248.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-devel === arpu [n=arpu@chello080109078137.4.15.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@220-253-54-244.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:35] hi @all i hvae this problem usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 please can anybody help me ? === bluefoxicy stabs openoffice.org for crashing every time he tries to copy from it and paste into another program >< [01:36] [01:36] I can past ehere [01:36] pasting in firefox crashes oOo [01:37] but i tested it with different kernels [01:37] so i think is not a kernel problem [01:38] a know this usb works for some time [01:39] <_ion> arpu: Press the grey button on the device, the one to the right from the LED. That will definitely fix the problem. [01:39] _ion: sorry i do not understand [01:40] this is a webcam with pwc modul i pached the modul with the unofficell pc modul [01:40] pwc ^ [01:40] arpu: please ask on #ubuntu for support, or file bugs in launchpad [01:40] arpu: this is not a support channel [01:41] minghua: ok thx a lot but i found a bug report but no solution [01:41] mom i search [01:41] this isn't a bug channel either [01:41] arpu: please add your comments in that bug then [01:41] as much as I flame the devs periodically for the particularly annoying ones. [01:42] i.e. the ones that cause me to lose data 6 times in 5 minutes [01:42] minghua bluefoxicy sorry and thx for your time and ork on ubuntu === locsmif [n=locsmif@unaffiliated/locsmif] has joined #ubuntu-devel === binaryBlob [n=CoreTex@64-142-95-29.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:54] minghua: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/54419 ii do not know what i can write to help [01:54] Malone bug 54419 in linux-source-2.6.15 "usb change between 2.6.15-23 and 2.6.15-26 breaks working setup" [High,Confirmed] [01:58] arpu: I don't know anything about kernel either, sorry [01:59] hi, i'm looking for the much talked about 'livecd.sh' script, where can i find it? (trying to rip ideas from it) === etorix [n=etorix@unaffiliated/etorix] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fbond [n=fab@pool-72-92-138-194.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:07] locsmif: "much talked about", hmmm [02:09] mostly infinity and mithrandir, from what i could find on google [02:10] if it's public i'd like to take a look at it and rip ideas from it for my own ubuntu or debian based livecd possibly :) [02:11] locsmif, afaik it's not public [02:12] oh..ok [02:13] Well, at least i can stop looking for it then ;) [02:13] ty [02:13] they might be able to give you a cleaned up version or something [02:14] I'm not sure [02:14] isn't the livecd.sh used in http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/ or have i got my proverbial wires crossed? [02:15] I doubt it, if it's the script I'm thinking of [02:15] ok [02:16] changing an existing .iso is quite a bit different then making it frm scratch === etorix [n=etorix@unaffiliated/etorix] has left #ubuntu-devel ["PerseveranceFurthers"] === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-67-17.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9258.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9258.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon24849.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:34] dmix is causing crackling in my stock u610 installation... :( [02:34] Mithrandir: OK, at last I'm trying to boot the merged caspre via NFS. [02:34] Sadly, ipconfig can no longer see eth0, a sis900-based NIC. [02:37] alex-weej: and not reproducible with plughw:0 itself? [02:37] If, at the fallback initramfs shell, I do `modprobe sis900', ipconfig can detect eth0. [02:37] crimsun_: correct [02:37] Any idea what's responsible for doing that modprobe when things are working? I suspect udev. === ulinskie [n=yolynne@202.57.88.42] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:45] It appears that casper is not doing the 0x02 udev magic, which is in the nfs-top/udev script. I'm gonna try that myself, now. === locsmif [n=locsmif@unaffiliated/locsmif] has left #ubuntu-devel ["You] === beuno [n=martin@200-122-78-199.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.60.38] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:54] twb: sure ipconfig can't see it; that's because iPconfig is a windows command ;P [02:55] Chipzz: nope [02:55] ipconfig is a klibc command [02:55] And doing the 0x02 thing fixed it. [02:55] Yaaaay! === Chipzz frowns [02:58] hello! [02:58] anybody here from ubuntu trademarks? [02:59] Mithrandir: any idea where casper-premount/udev comes from? === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:08] ulinskie: "from" Ubuntu trademarks? [03:09] ulinskie: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.133.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180107155.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rmjb_ [n=richard@cuscon11716.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poot [n=XyTC1vXS@mneptok.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:30] `anthony: oi. === zOrK [n=eclipse@200.113.190.157] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:38] Mithrandir: aha, the udev file is in the udev package. === ulinskie is now known as ulinskie[lunch] === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.133.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.133.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rmjb_ is now known as rmjb === `anthony [n=anthony@ekorp-218-185-9-170.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ulinskie[lunch] is now known as ulinskie[busog] === ulinskie[busog] is now known as ulinskie === dilinger [n=dilinger@c-65-96-188-167.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:15] morning === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.45.238] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KissMyBean [n=sdfsdfsd@125-236-172-192.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:59] moins fabbione === glick [n=myob@cpe-76-174-1-209.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:00] hi [06:01] hi [06:01] i have a question [06:01] i work with redhat at work [06:01] fire away === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:01] and the way they bring up the different runlevels with S scripts and K scripts is what im used to [06:01] how does ubuntu do it [06:01] i guess to bring up runlevel 3 it just runs the scripts in rc3.d? [06:01] but i dont see any kill scripts [06:02] all S scripts [06:02] glick: they are no different [06:02] Ubuntu does E and J scripts mostly and ubuntu is unfit so it doesnt runlevel it walklevels with I scripts. Here at Ubuntu we believe Jebus is the light.... We take all very seriously === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee glares at BlackCheese [06:03] ? [06:03] BlackCheese: ??????? === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [06:03] glick: the only main difference is that we use rc2 by default === BlackCheese [n=sdfsdfsd@125-236-172-192.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-devel [requested] [06:03] fabbione, so how does it switch from level 4 to 3 for example === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+b BlackCheese!*@*] by Hobbsee [06:03] glick: the same way as redhat does [06:03] how does it stop services [06:03] glick: same way [06:03] fabbione, but i dont see K scripts [06:03] note: [06:03] only S scripts [06:04] yeah let me write :) === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+b *!*@125-236-172-192.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] by Hobbsee [06:04] most of the K scripts are totally unnecessary === mode/#ubuntu-devel [-b BlackCheese!*@*] by Hobbsee === mode/#ubuntu-devel [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [06:04] they are only missing from rc0 and rc6 [06:04] because no matter what you do [06:04] the system sends a kill to all processes [06:04] and that's the same as using a K script [06:05] the few apps that still require a K script will retain it [06:05] the others have been removed [06:05] fabbione, hah ok [06:05] i see em [06:06] one of the side effects is a faster reboot/shutdown [06:06] ubuntu doesnt have a runlevel where it doesnt include X? [06:06] less code to run that's going to die anyway [06:06] glick: not as RH does [06:07] glick: not really ( other than single user mode , but its not the same ) [06:07] why not add such a runlevel? [06:07] if there isnt a need , why add it :) [06:07] glick: google for it :) === zarul [n=rs@ubuntu/member/zarul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:07] glick: there have been tons of discussions about it [06:07] imbrandon, i don know there might be a need [06:08] i guess thats what server edition is for though [06:08] so i guess its not needed in the desktop distro [06:08] or you could simply tell gdm/kdm/xdm not to start :) [06:08] but exactly [06:08] do i use the service command in ubuntu like in redhat? [06:08] glick: really... google for it to find all possible reasons/objections/discussions [06:09] you'll also notice too coming from redhat that we done beleive in having services installed that arent used, like sshd etc thus the split between ssh-client and -server [06:09] but yea you have /etc/init.d/service stop|start|blah [06:10] but as fabbione said there is tons of disscussions that can be found on good as to why its done this way [06:10] google* === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:12] good morning [06:12] moins pitti [06:13] morning pitti [06:13] hi imbrandon, hey ajmitch [06:14] anyone know the reason ( other than everyone is super busy ) we've been holding off on apache2.2 ? [06:15] fabbione: there's another difference [06:15] imbrandon: I filed a sync request yesterday [06:16] heh ive used redhat so much [06:16] im used to it now [06:16] fabbione: we start gdm from /etc/rc?.d/, while redhat starts gdm from init(tab) [06:16] and i cant stand redhat! [06:16] Chipzz: i am sure there are... [06:16] pitti: rock on, good i found out i needed it today on my edgy webserver :( [06:16] hopefully it wont be too much of a pita for me to backport [06:16] :) [06:16] so to stop gdm, on redhat you have to go to runlevel 3 (instead of 5), and on ubuntu you can do /etc/init.d/gdm stop [06:18] Chipzz: or just install broken drivers and wait for gdm to time out [06:18] imbrandon: hehe :) [06:18] sadly i know that from experince [06:18] evil evil X :P [06:20] yea, me too === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:24] hey in the next ubuntu release where compbiz an xgl will be the default, will there be easy options to not install them? [06:24] i mean will it be a choice? like install 3d desktop yes or no? [06:25] glick: I truly hope so :) [06:25] Me too [06:25] yes it should be a choice and it hasent been decided if its compiz or beryl and it most likely WONT be xgl, it will be AIGLX [06:25] glick: right now, the desktop-effects package allows you to easily enable it [06:25] I have a 333mhz w/ 128mb of ram - 3d stuff would kill my box. [06:25] i just dont want it forced upon me [06:25] somerville32: sounds like a good xubutu canidate :) [06:25] glick: if we enable it by default, the same switch should be available to turn it off [06:25] im happy living in my 2d desktop world [06:25] imbrandon, Thats what I'm running ;] [06:26] pitti, but it just seems like it should be off by default and enabled by a switch [06:26] glick: I feel with you, I tried out compiz yesterday and found it so utterly broken that I immediately returned [06:26] especially if you have crappy vid hardware [06:26] The equivalent of service(8) in Ubuntu is invoke-rc.d(8). [06:26] i just dont want to see ubuntu become one of those annoying distros where you have to disable a bunch of stuff for it to be bearable [06:26] For interactive use, it's better to use /etc/init.d/ [06:27] glick: otoh, if it works, it's *amazing* [06:27] i still use dapper on my desktop [06:27] It's just chrome [06:27] HrdwrBoB: I don't find it that special [06:27] HrdwrBoB, but its highly experimental software, im sure it has dozens of security holes in it [06:28] glick: security holes in my window manager isn't going to ruin my day [06:28] dozens? wow they must have plugged some up /me stops [06:28] time for sleep yall, gnight [06:29] glick: I'm rather concerned about usability and hardware support here [06:29] HrdwrBoB, its more then a window manager [06:29] and it certainly can ruin your day [06:29] well it can ruin my day cause i have important files on my pc [06:29] well, it's unlikely to ruin my day, but it would be quite possible to ruin lots of peoples days [06:30] glick: attack vectors on your window manager are very little [06:30] HrdwrBoB, its not just a window manager [06:30] it has kernel access to hardware [06:30] Uh, surely the window manager has permission to exec and permission to talk to the x server. [06:30] aiglx does not compiz :) [06:31] anyhow any holes are not good holes [06:31] imbrandon: absolutely [06:31] but in order to own your WM, you'd have to run compromised code [06:31] .. in which case all bets are off in any case [06:31] Xserve and X.org have been around like 20 years, regular 2D and are still full of security holes === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:32] i mean i know you cant get ANY software completley bug free [06:32] but you can asomtotically approach an "acceptable" level [06:32] glick: you know aiglx is part of x.org right, you guys are mixing the X server and the WM and the composite manager [06:32] anyhow really really off [06:33] imbrandon, yeah [06:33] imbrandon, thats what im saying its not just a WM [06:33] If it really worries you, don't run X. [06:33] You can play dvds and look at pictures on the framebuffer. [06:33] sure would be faster :)\ [06:34] but not as sexy [06:34] Actually, framebuffer terminals are significantly slower than 2d-accelerated X servers running xterm. [06:35] They also don't do antialiased fonts :-( === zarul [n=rs@ubuntu/member/zarul] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:53] So yeah, I fixed a bug in the udev package. Anyone interested? [06:54] twb: keybuk or someone probably is, when they're here. would help if you gave the bug # [06:54] I haven't filed a bug yet. [06:55] The bug is actually introduced by feature patch that I'm waiting for Mithrandir to pull into the casper package. === Treenaks [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:15] hey fabbione, can you have a look at an mdadm patch I pulled together? I ran into a race with initramfs+md. #75681 [07:15] keescook: edgy or feisty? [07:16] fabbione: feisty. [07:16] hi keescook, still up? [07:16] basically, my sata drives come online after local-top/mdadm has already aborted [07:16] hiya pitti! yeah, long evening. :) [07:16] short night for me :) [07:16] keescook: you have done a lot of work that has been already done and needs to be moved to udev-mdadm [07:17] + wait=$(sed -e 's/ /\n/g' < /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf | grep ^devices= | cut -d= -f2- | sed -e 's/,/ /g') [07:17] you have no guarantee that devices are listed in mdadm.conf [07:17] fabbione: yeah, i know. :P [07:17] actually, that's a requirement for mdadm now (says the readme) === dieman_ [n=dieman@3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:18] keescook: hem no.. it's not [07:18] ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid5 num-devices=4 UUID=e4ac4774:c730d28b:0978c89e:2173da3d [07:18] this won't match anything in your entry [07:18] and stall [07:18] aaah, you mean the device= isn't a requirement... good point === fabbione has been there... [07:19] keescook: just wait for the spec to be implemented.. really [07:19] keescook: i didn't spend time fixing mdadm in feisty.. [07:19] the udev-md spec says it's implemented, so this led to my confusion. :) [07:19] see the big SRU for mdadm in edgy [07:19] no it has been mistakely marked as implemented and reassigned to me [07:19] oh! hah. okay. :) === fabbione changes status [07:19] keescook: is it true that madwifi has some buffer overflow [07:20] jdong: yup. [07:20] keescook: exploitable to gain root? [07:20] keescook: lovely :) [07:20] but there is good news? [07:20] jdong: unsure if it's been proven to gain root, but it's a stack attack, so it's likely. [07:20] keescook: mmm :-/ not something I like to wager :D [07:21] fabbione: cool, I'll leave my patch in place on my machine for now. Let me know when you want beta code tested. :) [07:21] keescook: i am blocked by Keybuk that needs to do a udev upload [07:22] keescook: and i have plenty of raids to test, but yes.. i will let you know.. [07:22] one more test > * [07:22] :) [07:25] pitti; hello :) [07:25] hey desrt [07:25] do you know when the new kernel for dapper will be out? [07:26] desrt: erm, the ones I released yesterday? [07:26] ((btw: having my security notifications signed by someone whose pgp key i have signed directly is cool)) [07:26] heh [07:26] the firewall fix isn't in the dapper kernel [07:26] you mentioned that in your mail, i think [07:27] desrt: ah, right; there was some serious trouble with backporting that patch [07:27] desrt: we have a patch which is currently reviewed by upstream [07:28] desrt: so I hope we can get another update in January [07:28] !! [07:28] well, in any case, idon't think the bug affects me [07:29] i guess if you have fragment reassembly in place then it doesn't matter === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:31] it sort of makes me consider upgrading to edgy, though [07:35] desrt: argh, I should have mentioned that it only affects IPv6 === pitti fixes this on the webpage [07:36] done [07:40] oh. nice. [07:41] ipv6 is for suckas :) [07:41] desrt: ipv6 is teh winnar.. you suck === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:42] pitti: dude... [07:42] usn-395-1 [07:42] ya. seriously. [07:42] pitti: CVE-2006-5648 affects sparc too. the kernel is patched, but the USN needs to be updated [07:43] pitti: [07:43] * [SPARC64] : Fix futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic implementation. [07:43] Upstream GIT-SHA: c7fed9d75074f7c243ec8ff2c55d04de2839a6f6 [07:43] - Malone #68266 [07:43] Malone bug 68266 in linux-source-2.6.17 "unkillable cpu-eating zombie children left by glibc build" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68266 [07:44] that bug has, perhaps, the best summary ever [07:44] desrt: luckly i didn't do the usual make -j 4096 [07:45] holy crap. i haven't signed martin at all. [07:45] ! [07:45] travesty [07:45] desrt: did i ever sign you? [07:45] yes [07:45] desrt: i am pretty sure i did.. [07:45] ok [07:45] and i signed you and emailed the sigs [07:45] yeps [07:45] but you couldn't open them or something [07:45] yeah i think i did it [07:45] oh. good :) [07:46] what's your gpg uid? [07:46] afaa6ff6 [07:46] uid as in email [07:46] desrt@desrt.ca [07:47] lots of gdm flaws today [07:47] hmmm [07:48] fabbione: ok, /me fixes wiki page [07:49] eep. only one flaw. just looked like lots from the volume of emails i got [07:49] pitti: thanks [07:49] desrt: it looks like i don't have them.. oh well [07:49] fabbione; i used scott's script. at the time you said you were having difficulty opening them [07:49] fabbione; you could probably check in your received mail for them [07:50] (if you really care) :) [07:50] desrt: no i am sure i don't have them in my inbox [07:50] fabbione: done, thanks [07:50] desrt: i guess we will resign next time [07:51] fabbione; i'm sure i'll see you soon :) [07:51] any word on where the next one will be? [07:51] desrt: and if not.. i wish you a good travel in the other life === desrt will probably be in the area if it's in europe === nags [n=nags@125.22.85.87] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti tests 2.6.20, rebooting === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:56] pitti; on your laptop? [07:57] desrt: both amd64 desktop and ppc laptop [07:57] looks good on sparc [07:57] hold it up to your ear [07:57] is it ticking anymore? [07:57] desktop is running now [07:58] argh, usb 2.0 broken === dilinger [n=dilinger@c-24-128-243-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:58] usb 2.0 was broken before you rebooted your desktop, dear :) === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:03] desrt: 'ticking'??? [08:03] pitti; the new kernels are supposedly "tickless" [08:03] or, rather, circa 2.6.17-8 i heard "we'll be tickless by 2.6.20" [08:04] ie: the timer interrupt (HZ) no longer constantly runs [08:04] but, rather, is only scheduled when it needs to be [08:04] ah, I remember [08:05] not sure how you find out if you're tickless or not [08:05] (i doubt the trick with holding it up to your ear actually works) [08:06] desrt: pfft [08:06] desrt: doesn't fix C3/C4 buzzing on my laptop [08:07] desrt: tickless patches that is [08:07] well [08:07] that's because the entire userland is retarded [08:07] I hope that's why [08:07] come see my talk at linux.conf.au about how to fix it :) [08:07] :) [08:07] I see the .au and somehow think it won't happen :D [08:07] dude. summer in january. [08:07] but i'll be awaiting the day I can send my alptop to C3 === simira [n=simira@tellus.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:24] cjwatson_: may I nag you about the SRU bug 59946 again? [08:24] Malone bug 59946 in gnome-system-tools "Admin tools require admin group membership" [High,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59946 === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@220-253-54-244.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:38] Anybody know if usplash can be made to work over pxelinux? [08:38] s/over/with/ [08:39] twb: what do you mean over pxelinux? [08:39] usplash starts from initramfs [08:40] argh, why does gdb get more broken with every release recently? [08:40] I think the underlying problem is that the framebuffer isn't being used. [08:40] twb: pxelinux is just a minimal piece of code to download kernel and initramfs [08:40] I just get a boot: prompt instead of the full gxfboot thing that you get when booting with isolinux. [08:43] works fine here [08:43] Hmm, maybe it's because I'm using CentOS4's pxelinux.0 instead of Ubuntu's [08:43] (I'm stuck with CentOS on the server, against my will) [08:44] you can still use pxelinux.0 from ubuntu [08:44] That's what I'm about to do. [08:44] anyway this is become #ubuntu stuff [08:44] Sorry. [08:50] fabbione: (moved to #ubuntu) === Zober [n=a@dvb278.resnet.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:52] Is there an svn system out there that does not require installation? For example, if i want to host a repository on my site, but its a shared host with no shell privilages. [08:53] Zober: setting up svn requires shell access TTBOMK [08:53] is there a knockoff of svn that run on say php/mysql? [08:53] or perl and mysql or something [08:54] Zober: however, bzr does not :) it can use sftp, rsync, or you can copy it with ftp, or whatever [08:54] nice! [08:56] === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-87ef2b1b9c70c8dc] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:57] sigh. [08:57] every time i read a get-women-involved-in-linux document i am depressed [08:58] i'm like "oo. magic solution" [08:58] and then it's either the same-old, or worse [08:58] :/ === desrt goes to bed === mdke points at #ubuntu-offtopic [08:59] don't go to bed [08:59] we have 2.6.20 \o/ [09:00] desrt: have you tried it ? [09:01]