[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks mdke
[05:17] <nixternal> oh wow, I am totally in disbelief about the Ubuntu Forums
[05:19] <nixternal> i cannot believe this, they want their own CC or what not, they consider themselves the office ubuntu forums, however they have the power to temporarily lock a thread in order to transfer the information to the UDSF database
[05:32] <Madpilot> nixternal, the forums have always been their own little universe...
[05:34] <nixternal> well, they just fell below Gentoo on my useless heirarchy
[05:34] <nixternal> they are pushing windows
[05:41] <Madpilot> nixternal, huh?
[05:42] <nixternal> being crazy
[05:42] <nixternal> playing on the new lappy
[09:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[09:14] <somerville32> mdke: Is there anyone leading the Xubuntu documentation effort? Or any contacts?
[09:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> mdke, can i get just dapper doco from svn, or do i have to wget -mnp it from the web?
[09:22] <mdke> somerville32: well, there is only one contributor. Called luzi
[09:22] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, "svn checkout url"
[09:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> mdke, thanks.
[09:23] <somerville32> mdke: Someone else will be able to commit if I send in patches, right?
[09:23] <mdke> somerville32: yes
[09:24] <mdke> would be good to get some more contribution
[09:24] <somerville32> How many patches would I have to send in before I could get svn access?
[09:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> are the dirs like this: UbuntuDapperDocsSVN/ubuntu/desktopguide/ja localised versions?
[09:25] <mdke> somerville32: not many, enough to show you can write English and won't commit anything that breaks
[09:25] <mdke> somerville32: but sending patches is a pretty effective way to contribute already
[09:25] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser: yes
[09:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> ta
[09:26] <somerville32> mdke: Should I use the stuff at http://docs.ubuntu.com/xubuntu or pull ro from svn?
[09:29] <mdke> somerville32: get it from svn and use "svn diff" as described on our wiki pages. The documentation on doc.ubuntu.com is not the source
[09:32] <mdke> somerville32: definitely read our wiki pages, they describe how to ensure what you send is valid docbook, that's very important too
[09:32] <mdke> see you later
[09:32] <somerville32> Thanks :] 
[10:12] <somerville32> Gak
[10:12] <somerville32> This Xubuntu documentation needs a lot of work.
[08:30] <LaserJock> mdke: ping
[09:04] <mdke> LaserJock: hi?
[09:05] <LaserJock> mdke: I'd like to request svn access for Pete Savage (cbx33)
[09:05] <LaserJock> he worked with me on some Edubuntu docs
[09:05] <LaserJock> he's an Ubuntu member and MOTU and sent several patches to the mailing list
[09:05] <mdke> I don't remember the patches, were they ok?
[09:07] <LaserJock> I'm pretty sure, let me just check my emails real quick
[09:08] <LaserJock> yep, he's a pretty good writer and does docbook fine. He wants to get cracking on Edubuntu stuff again
[09:08] <mdke> ok
[09:08] <LaserJock> I think there will be some more people in the future wanting to get access
[09:08] <LaserJock> but they need to send patches first
[09:08] <mdke> good news
[09:09] <LaserJock> willvdl is working on heading up Edubuntu docs as a part of his employment
[09:09] <mdke> working on? I thought he *is*
[09:09] <LaserJock> well yeah
[09:10] <willvdl> that would be contrary to open development :)
[09:10] <LaserJock> well, where I come from we'd say he's "riding herd" on Edubuntu docs
[09:10] <LaserJock> ;-)
[09:12] <willvdl> I'm trying to get the ball rolling again in tune with UDP movements. In a month I'm going to be sweating in Nigeria so my time is short
[09:12] <mdke> how long are you in Nigeria?
[09:14] <willvdl> not sure yet.
[09:14] <willvdl> probably only two weeks
[09:14] <mdke> ah
[09:15] <willvdl> but then I'm in Argentina for March
[09:15] <mdke> blimey
[09:15] <mdke> rockstar stuff
[09:15] <willvdl> nothing glamorous about his work :)
[09:15] <willvdl> *this
[09:16] <willvdl> trust me
[09:16] <LaserJock> mdke: are you ok to request svn access for cbx33 or should I do it? I'm not sure if they'd listen to me :-)
[09:16] <mdke> I don't mind
[10:09] <mdke> LaserJock: so what's the verdict? am I requesting, or are you?
[10:38] <LaserJock> you are :-)
[10:39] <mdke> ok
[10:40] <mdke> LaserJock: Pete Savage/cbx33 has no search results on launchpad. Can you tell me his LP name, and ask him to remedy that?
[10:41] <mdke> ah, forget the first bit of that
[10:41] <LaserJock> yeah, he's hard to find on LP
[10:42] <LaserJock> mdke: got it now?
[10:42] <mdke> yes, but still.
[10:43] <LaserJock> but still what?
[10:44] <mdke> but still, he should fix it
[10:44] <mdke> btw LaserJock, willvdl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317786
[10:44] <LaserJock> what is there to "fix" he can't just change his LP id I don't think
[10:46] <mdke> LaserJock: he could use his real name
[10:46] <mdke> instead of a joined up name
[10:47] <LaserJock> ohhh, on Display Name
[10:47] <LaserJock> I got it
[10:48] <mdke> to be fair,  a search on "savage" doesn't even turn him up, which must be launchpad's fault
[10:49] <willvdl> mdke, ogra will be pleased :)
[10:49] <LaserJock> that's what I've always assumed
[10:49] <mdke> willvdl: or horrified, one or the other
[10:49] <willvdl> https://launchpad.net/people/petesavage
[10:49] <mdke> yeah, I found it from his wiki page
[10:50] <LaserJock> I always go to one of the teams he's on
[10:50] <LaserJock> but then I already know what teams he's on
[10:51] <mdke> only 2 clicks required to fix it
[10:51] <LaserJock> I've got him
[10:51] <LaserJock> gimme a min
[10:53] <LaserJock> mdke: done
[10:54] <mdke> also, we should go through LP and enforce a "LP username = irc handle" rule
[10:54] <LaserJock> bah
[10:54] <LaserJock> make LP search for IRC nick
[10:54] <mdke> I tried that.
[10:54] <mdke> and failed. So now, the hard approach
[10:54] <willvdl> mdke, not everyone on LP is on irc
[10:54] <mdke> willvdl: we'll enforce that too
[10:55] <LaserJock> hehe
[10:55] <LaserJock> well I'm not changing my @ubuntu.com just for you ;-p
[10:55] <mdke> isn't irc supposed to be done through launchpad anyway?
[10:55] <willvdl> I work with many people who cannot use irc...firewalls etc.
[10:55] <willvdl> you mean channel maintenance?
[10:56] <LaserJock> mdke: hmm? IRC and LP are orthogonal I believe
[10:56] <mdke> I'm just joking around
[10:56] <LaserJock> I see
[10:56] <mdke> don't you get the "orthogonal" bug too
[10:56] <LaserJock> well in my case I had an LP account before I had an IRC nick
[10:57] <LaserJock> I suppose I could change my nick
[10:57] <willvdl> sigh, my humour is fading with my fatigue.
[10:57] <willvdl> outahere
[10:57] <LaserJock> but then I'd have to buy another domain :-)
[10:57] <mdke> willvdl: probably mine is at fault here
[10:57] <LaserJock> cya willvdl
[10:57] <LaserJock> I wondered ... silly brits
[11:00] <LaserJock> mdke: why the heck does Novell have Edubuntu docs
[11:00] <LaserJock> weird
[11:00] <mdke> no idea
[11:00] <LaserJock> cya