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somerville32Who is Rich Johnson?12:14
somerville32oh oh12:14
somerville32nixternal: Are you still working on UWN?12:15
somerville32Jenda: I replied to Mark :)12:26
jendacool ;)12:27
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somerville32tsmite: Want something to do? :] 12:37
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somerville32I made some cookies today12:42
somerville32I should decorate them with the Ubuntu logo12:42
Burgwork-news subscriptions are up 20+ today alone12:47
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BurgworkI don't know ;)12:55
somerville32Burgwork: How do I register a new mailing list?12:56
Burgworksomerville32: you ask for it01:03
Burgworkwhat are you thinking?01:03
somerville32I was contemplating xubuntu-users01:04
Burgworkah, ok01:09
Burgworkgot enough use to split xubuntu up like that?01:09
somerville32We only xubuntu-devel01:17
somerville32*have01:17
Burgworkthen go for it01:17
Burgworkrt@admin.canonical.com01:17
somerville32Who am I e-mailing?01:17
jendathe Request Tracker.01:18
jendaSir Request Tracker,01:19
jenda24 Canonical drive.01:19
Burgworksomerville32: god01:19
Burgworkotherwise known as elmo01:19
somerville32If I say Dear God (aka elmo), would he get upset?01:20
somerville32*said01:20
jendasomerville32: yes01:20
Burgworkyes01:20
BurgworkI was joking01:20
jendasomerville32: at this time of the year, you should call him Santa.01:20
somerville32Are you joking again?01:21
somerville32haha01:21
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jendalol ;)01:29
Burgworkdo it01:29
jendaI don't think he should mind that :)01:29
Burgworkthere are others that mind respond, but anyway01:29
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tonyyarussoBurgwork: You around?09:24
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poningruok guys bad news10:46
poningrugobby will be down from 20th of december to january 4thish10:46
poningruswitching services10:46
jendaaww10:47
poningru:( I know sorry10:48
poningruI wont be there10:48
poningruand my other roommate is kinda computer illiterate10:48
jendaponingru: can you check the moderation queue?10:51
jendaI'm unsure of one of the things.10:51
jendacarpediem @ global.co.za10:51
poningruhmm checking10:51
poningruhmm ic what you mean10:54
poningruI think we should probably forward that to canonical10:54
jendaTo:10:55
jenda<info@canonical.com>10:55
jendaCC:10:55
jenda<ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com>10:55
jendahehe10:55
poningruyeah saw that10:55
jendaponingru: someone thought ahead of you ;)10:55
poningrunot sure if they check that email or not...10:55
poningruwe should probably bug jane or someone just to make sure they know about it10:55
jendaI think we should let it through.10:55
poningruoh yeah most def10:55
jendaIt's a little spammy, but not in a malicious way :)10:56
poningruand one of us should respond10:56
poningruirght10:56
poningruright*10:56
jendaI'm sure someone will, on the ML10:56
jendaponingru: when accepting emails, also consider whether the user should be added to the whitelist or not...10:57
jendaI don't think this one should, for example :)10:57
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poningruoh hehe10:57
jendaSince I have no clue how to remove them ;)10:57
poningru:) yeah we should figure that out10:57
jendaAnd it's easy to do a mistake: yesterday I thought I accepted the sabdfl's email, but I musta been so excited I only whitelisted him, but deleted the mail :)10:58
poningrurofl10:59
elkbuntulol11:01
elkbuntuwth was he not whitelisted already?11:01
jendanot yet :)11:02
jendahe is now.11:02
elkbuntunext person to see mitchm needs to harrass him about running sobby11:03
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poningruhey if gobby.ubuntu.com could be forwarded to my server...11:06
jenda* WANTED *11:07
jendaMitch Mahan11:07
mindspindid you all read this "Using Ubuntu in an animated studio" on the ml ?11:07
jenda  Reward:11:07
jendaRunning sobby11:07
jendamindspin: that's what poningru and I have been discussing :)11:07
mindspin;-)11:07
mindspincanonical will surely contact them for support offers....11:08
jendaI'll forward it to Mark. Any objections?11:11
poningrunope11:12
mindspinnot at all, although the mail went also to info@canonical.com11:12
tonyyarussoWow.11:12
poningrutonyyarusso: I know right11:12
mindspinit will show or awareness ;-)11:13
tonyyarussoThat would so sweet if they put a big "Made with Ubuntu" notice at the beginning and it showed in theatres all over.11:13
jendamindspin: yes, I don't know anything about that addy ;)11:13
jendawooohoo ;)11:13
poningrutonyyarusso: probably at teh end11:13
jendaponingru: or in the corner the entire time ;)11:13
tonyyarussoponingru: either way, whatever11:13
tonyyarussojenda: haha11:13
mindspintonyyarusso: normally those "made with blah" lines are rather small ones ;-)11:14
poningrurofl11:14
poningruif only11:14
poningrustill we can point it out to everyone11:14
poningrulike at the theatre11:14
mindspinmentioned after the drivers ;-)11:14
poningrumake sure to stand up and yell11:14
tonyyarussoponingru: I totally would11:14
tonyyarussoBring CDS!11:14
poningru"UBUNTU I WONDER WHAT THAT IS"11:15
poningru"WHATS THIS UBUNTU CDS HMM"11:15
tonyyarussoPoint, and yell "Look!  Made with Ubuntu!  Anybody want it?"11:15
tonyyarussoYa!11:15
poningrurofl11:15
mindspinbut such a project could be good for canonical, good for (k)ubuntu ;-) and good for linux/open source at all11:15
tonyyarussoyep11:15
poningruoh guys try not to spread this around just yet11:17
mindspinwhat?11:18
mindspin;-)11:18
poningruthe clients might want some discretion atleast until the deal is finalized if not until the movie is released11:18
mindspinponingru: I was kidding11:18
poningruhehe yea11:19
poningruh11:19
mindspinafter the contracts are signed, canonical will tell the world 11:19
mindspinalthough I #m not sure wether ubuntu is "ripe" for such a project11:20
jendaI'm sure Ubuntu is ripe - not sure if there's any good software for Ubuntu to fill their needs.11:20
mindspinthat must be deceided by the "tech staff"11:20
mindspinjenda: yup better expressed11:21
Admiral_Chicagopersonally, I enjoy the phase "defective by design"11:21
jendahehe11:21
Admiral_Chicagoi use it often when talking about DRM11:21
poningruAdmiral_Chicago: hehe awesome11:21
poningruwoah11:21
poningruyou go to a college?11:21
poningruwhich one?11:21
poningrudude have you looked into freeculture.org11:22
poningru??11:22
poningruwe are looking for more chapters11:22
Admiral_Chicagoponingru: haha, yes i'm a sophmore in college11:22
Admiral_Chicagoponingru: no but I have a F/OSS team here11:22
Admiral_Chicagolink?11:22
Admiral_Chicagooh i see11:22
poningrufreeculture.org11:22
poningru;)11:22
poningruuf.freeculture.org thats our chapter11:23
Admiral_Chicagoi'll discuss it with the other guy that is big on FOSS on campus11:24
poningruawesome11:24
Admiral_Chicagowe did a talk on Open Source, I discussed Ubuntu for half and hour or so11:24
Admiral_Chicagowe are also doing an install fest, plus another talk11:24
Admiral_Chicagoi've got 7 new users in one semester11:25
poningruAdmiral_Chicago: btw freeculture.org is an official partner of fsf on defectivebydesign11:25
poningruhttp://www.defectivebydesign.org/en/node11:25
poningruon the right hand side you can see the link11:25
Admiral_Chicagopersonally that is. poningrugood to hear, one of the Liberal Arts Intro class did a book on the hacker culture11:26
Admiral_Chicagostarted talking about RMS, free formats etc11:26
poningruawesome11:26
Admiral_Chicagoif someone would have told me earlier, I would have guest lectured :)11:26
xipietotecI'm going to try starting a freeculture group as a student club at my community college, although it's not going to be specifically linux-centric11:27
Admiral_Chicagohaha, that's funny. I switched desktops and I was blogging about free software for a class.11:28
Admiral_Chicagoforgot all about it11:28
xipietotecMainly I just want to get the point across to rather disinterested college kids that people are working to steal their rights and that the RIAA/etc. are BS11:29
poningrusweet11:30
poningruxipietotec: :D11:30
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poningruAdmiral_Chicago: #freeculture btw11:30
xipietotecthe one thing I want to work on is my video project..., it's a video short where *everything* has DRM.11:30
xipietotecbooks and art require spraying on a chemical license or the words and pictures disappear, food comes pre-packaged and only works in compatible ovens with built in expiration dates that cause the food to go bad, etc.11:31
xipietotecso far for what I've got for a storyline, it revolves around a kid who finds an old (pre-licensing regime) book, and inadvertently becomes a criminal11:32
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xipietotecso um....yeah....hopefully it'll be a cool video11:40
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pschulz01Good evening.. have people seen the email that just came through on CGI film studio in South Africa?12:17
tonyyarussopschulz01: yep12:21
tonyyarussoIt's on its way to higher ups to talk to them about it.12:21
tonyyarussoIf they do end up deciding to go with Ubuntu, I'm sure we'll hear about it later.12:22
pschulz01tonyyarusso: Excellent!12:22
tonyyarussoUntil then, probably better not to say too much, in case they don't.12:22
pschulz01tonyyarusso: As long as it's is being attended to :-)12:23
tonyyarussopschulz01: Yep :)12:23
jendaOK, I'm officially delaying my t-shirt production :)12:36
elkbuntu:-/12:36
jendaI just got a poloshirt from the German LoCo team, and it is unsurpassable.12:37
jendaI can't beat that.12:37
jendaThey sell tees for 10 and polos for 1512:37
elkbuntuoh?12:37
pschulz01jenda: Link?12:38
pschulz01jenda: Pictures?12:38
poningrujenda: dude thats kinda expensive12:38
jendaponingru: a bit...12:38
poningruyou sure you can beat that?12:38
jendabut it's worth every stitch...12:38
jendaI mean...12:38
poningruisnt eastern europe a bit cheaper?12:38
jendathey are just perfect :)12:38
poningruhehe12:38
jendawe're neighbouring germany, so we ain't that much more to the east :)12:39
jendaIn fact, Juliux, who I got mine from, is probably the nearest non-Czech Ubuntu Member to me :)12:39
poningruhehe12:39
jenda(and pitti, both Dresden)12:39
tonyyarussoMy nearests are in Toronto I'm sure12:40
jendaBurgwork: ping12:47
tonyyarussoShoot.  I had a question for him and don't remember it.12:48
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jendaMenZa: looks like I'll be buying you a t-shirt from Germany ;)12:50
MenZa:O12:50
MenZalink .12:50
MenZa:O*12:50
poningrumy nearest is gnomefreak iirc12:50
poningruhe is in georgia iirc12:50
elkbuntuMenZa, pray tell, could you possibly get much more into that hostmask?12:51
MenZaelkbuntu: :D12:51
elkbuntu(i know there's other bigger ones..)12:51
MenZajenda: I doubt I can do it this cheap any longer, my boss now wants me to pay $20/m foil12:52
MenZaA lot :\12:52
jendaAww, well that's ok12:54
jendahttp://diy.devubuntu.com/polo.jpg12:54
jendaelkbuntu: technically, no - only pdpc or freenode cloaks can group, and never both.12:54
elkbuntujenda, longer nicks, dear12:55
MenZa A POLO!12:55
MenZaOh so awesome12:55
MenZa<3 jenda12:55
jendaMenZa: it's even more expensive than the coffee maker ;12:55
jenda;)12:55
MenZaXD12:55
MenZaSize large, by the way12:55
jendak12:55
MenZaAnd I'll get those stickers done asap12:55
MenZaWe're doing an 8 metre print right now12:55
MenZa...which takes a few hours.12:56
MenZaAnd we have four!12:56
jendahehe :)12:57
jendaok12:57
poningruMenZa: your boss wants you to do what?12:59
MenZaPay for the materials.12:59
poningruwhat matierials?12:59
MenZaumm, the sticker-foil01:00
pschulz01jenda: The shirt look looks great!01:01
pschulz01looks01:01
jendaContact juliux for those shirts01:01
jenda15 apiece01:01
jenda10 for t-shirt01:01
MenZa:O01:02
poningruoh01:02
poningrudoh01:02
jendaplus shipping01:05
jendaoh well, you get what you pay for :)01:05
jendaThere's no way I'm competing with high quality shirts that are a tidbit more expensive with cheap whacks.01:06
MenZajenda: fantastic, finally able to speak German on IRC01:07
jendahehe01:07
MenZaI suck at it, but I like speaking it01:07
poningruoh did I tell you guys about finding out that my parents router runs linux01:08
poningruthe isp gave them a free router that has all kinds of wonderful stuff01:08
MenZaoh nice01:08
MenZa:D01:08
jendashweet :)01:09
poningruyeah I was setting up wifi01:09
poningrusaw a whole bunch of options that normally wouldnt be there in an average router01:09
poningruso looking around01:09
poningruturns out there is a configure file for the firewall01:09
poningruand guess what the text file is 01:09
poningruiptables01:09
poningruI was like waoh01:10
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poningrulooked up the model number turns out they do use linux01:10
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juliuxhi all jenda said i have to join this channel ;)02:25
jendamuhehe02:25
jendaeveryone, meet juliux02:25
jendajuliux, meet team.02:25
jendaor meat teem02:25
jendawhatever ;)02:25
jendajuliux is the guy you bother with t-shirts02:25
jenda:)02:25
juliuxthey are not my shirts;) only in my flat;)=02:28
MenZahey juliux02:28
juliuxhi MenZa 02:28
jendajuliux: I know that type of stuff ;)02:29
jendaI've got 40 ubuntu tees on my flat too02:29
jendabut they're Czech.02:29
jendaMenZa: I heard you bought a shirt from juliux ;)02:29
juliuxjenda, i have also 8000 ubuntu german ubuntu flyer, 500 ubuntu edgy dvd02:30
MenZaI did ;)?02:30
jendaMenZa: that probably means you'll be getting two02:30
jendaaha, I suppose you didn't :)02:30
juliuxMenZa, he want one of the next generation;)02:30
MenZaNever bought any, told him to tell me when he was doing the next batch02:30
jendajuliux: 500 pressed DVD?02:30
MenZaWith breastpockets!02:30
juliuxjenda, 80002:30
jendaMenZa: Ah I see :)02:30
juliuxjenda, 800er ;)02:30
jendajuliux: are they multilingual?02:30
jendabrb02:31
juliuxjenda, MenZa want some with a a breast-pocket 02:31
juliuxjenda, yes02:31
jendajuliux: how much per DVD?02:31
juliuxjenda, it is the normal edgy i386 iso02:31
juliuxjenda, but with a german cover02:31
jendabut pressed :)02:31
jendaah02:31
juliuxyes pressd02:31
jendawell, that sohuldn't matter.02:31
juliuxwe presssed 200002:31
jendaHow much do they cost?02:31
juliux0,70 02:32
jendaneat02:32
jendaI might be getting some later.02:32
juliux800 for us, 200 for an company 700 for an other association and 300 for a bookshop02:32
MenZajuliux, how much do you want to add one to the T-shirt jenda ordered?02:32
MenZaI'd like to see what kind of pressing this is :)02:32
MenZabrb02:32
juliuxMenZa, i made a deal with jenda, he gaves me 10 posters i send him a poloshirt;)02:33
juliuxjenda, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1885212#post1885212 ;902:35
willvdlDoes the marketing team use launchpad for any projects/products/etc?02:38
juliuxwillvdl, i think it is better to ask on the mailinglist02:41
willvdlwill do. will search archives as well I guess02:42
juliuxok02:42
jendajuliux: hehe I'll be ordering another one for MenZa02:43
MenZa:O02:43
jendaI can either give you cash, or 15 posters for it :)02:43
MenZa:o02:43
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juliuxhm02:43
juliuxcash is better;)02:43
jendaok ;)02:43
juliuxwe also should speak about posterts02:43
jendaplease tell me if you have some way of accepting paypal - it's a million times easier for me.02:44
jendaok sure ;)02:44
jendawhat about them?02:44
juliuxyes we have a paypal account i think ;)02:44
juliuxwhat was the production for the posters you made?02:44
juliuxand who many posters you made02:44
jendaI made 50002:48
jendaand it cost me...02:48
jenda29002:48
jendawell, 300, more like02:48
juliuxit was din a3 right?02:50
jendayep02:51
jendaI could get 200 A2s done for 35 apiece02:51
jendaerr... 35 CZK02:51
jenda1.2502:51
jendawould get cheaper going up02:52
jendadown to about 0.80 apiece at 500 i think, juliux 02:52
juliuxjenda, ok02:52
juliuxi will check what it cost in germany;)02:52
jenda:)02:54
juliuxjenda, 500 din a3 poster with 4 colors cost 206,25 in germany02:54
jendajuliux: I can guarantee we have cheaper shipping than you, though ;)02:54
juliuxincl. shipping02:54
jendaah02:54
jendawell, shipping posters costs me 3 up to about 15 posters02:54
jenda4 up to 28 or so02:55
jendaand then goes by the 4 as it doubles.02:55
jendaerr...02:55
jendamake that, goes by 4 per half-kilo02:55
jendano... not true ;)02:55
jendaper 250 g02:55
juliuxi didn't check the shipping prices from germany to the whole world;)02:56
juliuxbut a letter up to 2kg format din a4 costs 4,50 to whole europe02:56
jendawow, that's a good price.02:57
jendafor those measures, europe is the same as the world :(02:57
juliuxhehe02:57
jendaHowever, my experience says most of your users will not be from Europe.02:57
juliuxperhaps i find a sponsor for shipping costs;)02:58
jendawow02:59
jendaI didn't get that far02:59
jenda:)03:00
juliuxperhaps not sure03:00
juliuxhm posters are very cheap03:01
juliux225 for 500 posters din a203:01
jendaO.O03:01
jendado it :)03:01
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juliuxjenda, at first we have to sell the shirts and dvds;)03:02
jendahehe03:02
jendaI'll do what I can to help with that.03:03
juliuxwe spend 1500 for shirts, 500 for flyers, 600 for dvds;)03:03
juliuxin only in november03:03
jendawow :)03:04
jendaI didn't know the shirts were that fresh.03:04
juliuxwe have 50 shirts and 100 polos;)03:04
jendaThey totally rock, though :)03:04
juliuxand 50*8 +100*11 are 150003:04
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juliuxjenda, just do what you did in the past;)03:05
jendawell, all the material you offer to ship globally will be featured on diy.devubuntu.com03:05
jendathat website will have a little banner at the front page of ubuntuforums.org03:05
juliuxthe dvds has a german cover:(03:05
jendajust like the announcement that hangs there03:05
jendajuliux: that's unfortunate, but you never know who might buy them :)03:06
jendas/buy/want to get as a free gift in return for a donation/03:06
jendaand that banner on the forums is powerful, BTW :)03:06
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jendaI sold about half my stock thanks to it.03:07
juliuxwe will try to get a link on http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu#buycurrent to the onlineshop of the bookshop03:07
jendacool03:07
juliuxthey are selling the dvds but the profit goes to the community03:07
jendajuliux: OTOH, I'd appreciate a bit of an outward-thinking approach, too, in return ;)03:07
juliuxotoh ?03:08
jendaon the other hand03:09
juliuxok03:09
jendaWhat i mean is looking at other projects out there that might appreciate support :)03:09
jendathe thing is, there are hundreds of projects on Ubuntu03:09
juliuxsure03:09
jendaSome are digital, and don't involve money.03:09
jendaSome aren't - and gain money.03:09
jendaSome cost money :)03:09
juliuxjenda, sorry girlfriend just arrvived;)03:10
jendaso I try to think of the redistribution ;)03:10
jendasure03:10
jenda:)03:10
elkbunturedistribution of the girlfriend? jenda, you naughty boy!03:11
jendahehe :)03:11
jendaNo, actually, i didn't mean that :)03:12
elkbuntu(i know)03:12
jenda03:12
poningruok so I am gonna go request the source to my parents new router...03:12
poningruhow should I go about it?03:12
jendaYo gonna fork up me dem source or i's gonna bust a cap in yo' 'hind?03:15
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poningruhaha03:28
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somerville32Good Morning Ubuntu Marketing Team! :D05:47
jendaGood afternoon, team :)05:52
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jendaMitchM: there was some reward on your head earlier...06:03
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MitchMWho was looking :-) ?06:04
jendaright06:04
jendaelkbuntu: 06:04
MitchMProblems with her website?06:04
jendaShe wanted to ask if you could run a sobby on your server.06:04
MitchM"sobby"06:04
MitchMas in a sad pos ?06:05
MitchM=)06:05
jendayep06:05
jendawell, actually, she was more like ordering you to do so, under pain of eternal torment.06:06
jendaBut I allowed myself to rephrase a bit.06:06
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MitchM_Jenda: Yeah. So I'm a ginnie pig for a failing Cisco router.06:17
MitchM_Sobby is a "multiple user 'vim'" ?06:17
jendayep :)06:17
jendaor gedit.06:17
MitchM_*pukes*06:18
MitchM_Elkbuntu: Setting up Sobby now.06:19
MitchM_elkbuntu, You should be able to run it from your normal user. If you would like a seperate "global" sobby user I can also set that up.06:21
juliuxre06:21
MitchM_and just create a blank directory to place your projets in.06:21
MitchM_elkbuntu, Just make sure if you start a sobby session to use the default port. 652206:28
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