[12:01] <removed_> is there a reason vsftpd and pure-ftpd can't see local users on ubuntu?
[12:01] <crowley1027> he has 2.6.17.10 and he wants to install new kernel...is it a good idea?
[12:01] <compilerwriter> !gnupg
[12:01] <ubotu> gnupg: GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1031 kB, installed size 4784 kB
[12:01] <mastin> i can lost programs or drivers in the update?
[12:01] <kitche> mastin: fi you don't know how to compile a kernel I won't bother
[12:02] <crowley1027> mastin: no.
[12:02] <dbass> hey could someone answer a real quick question about wine for me right quick?
[12:02] <crowley1027> mastin: no download el nnuevo kernel
[12:02] <crowley1027> nuevo*
[12:02] <kinyas> kitche: nautilus is the default file manager isn't it? how can i open a root nautilius window?
[12:02] <crowley1027> si no sabe install, es mal.
[12:02] <kitche> kinyas: gksu nautilius
[12:03] <removed_> is there a reason vsftpd and pure-ftpd can't see local users on ubuntu? do I have to set shells for each user?
[12:03] <crowley1027> guys, i need a C++ compiler...how do i go about downloading one?
[12:03] <devnull_> so im F'ed i suppose
[12:03] <LjL> Ubotu, tell crowley1027 about build-essential | crowley1027, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:03] <arrenlex> crowley1027: apt-get install build-essential
[12:03] <arrenlex> crowley1027: The compiler itself is g++
[12:03] <dbass> get g++
[12:03] <compilerwriter> dbass there are no really quick questions about wine.
[12:03] <george_> do i need to uninstall gaim before installing a deb with the new version?
[12:03] <Adil> crowley1027: get g++
[12:03] <LjL> crowley1027: it's called GCC (the GNU Compiler Collection), it includes a C and C++ (and others) compiler, and it's on the Ubuntu CD as well as in the "main" repository component
[12:03] <mastin> ok,thanks a lot crowley1027
[12:03] <kitche> devnull_: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:03] <crowley1027> so pop in the live CD and do what
[12:04] <devnull_> thanks
[12:04] <Adil> crowley1027: donload it from Synaptics
[12:04] <neosa-chris> crowley sit back and relax
[12:04] <neosa-chris> peace all
[12:04] <crowley1027> heh, i'm no good with linux guys and gals...just transferred fresh from windows.
[12:04] <arrenlex> Adil: Synaptics is a touchpad driver :) The package manager is synaptic.
[12:04] <freshhawk> speaking of 2.6.17-10, anyone have some tips on how to diagnose this : i can boot into 2.6.15-27 just fine but booting with 17-10 makes my machine hang at the pretty ubuntu splash screen with the progress bar not moving
[12:04] <compilerwriter> welcome crowley1027
[12:05] <compilerwriter> I am a recovering winblows user as well.
[12:05] <AtticStorm> Is there a "how-to" page relative to setting up Ubuntu with a PDF like printer driver as in Kbuntu?  Thanks.
[12:05] <compilerwriter> Unfortunately I am still forced to use it in some cirlces
[12:05] <bimberi> crowley1027: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' (as per arrenlex)
[12:05] <shwag> can someone tell me how to get the setup script on phpmyadmin working?
[12:05] <crowley1027> i have the CD in.
[12:05] <Adil> arrenlex: Lol. Thanks
[12:05] <dredhammer> hello i succesfully compiled vlc but its missing wmv3 support did i miss something in ./configure?
[12:05] <crowley1027> unmet dependiencies
[12:06] <markvandenborre> I'm looking for a gnash package for dapper
[12:06] <arrenlex> dredhammer: Any reason you're not satisfied with the one in the repositories?
[12:06] <markvandenborre> from a well respected repository
[12:06] <markvandenborre> any suggestions?
[12:06] <dredhammer> wmv3 support and flash video
[12:06] <arrenlex> markvandenborre: Do you know you need gnash in particular? It's not ready for users yet.
[12:06] <tomlikestorock1> why is it that when I turn on my laptop, and I start typing to log in, my first keypress is always ignored? How do I fix that?
[12:07] <visik7> elisa rocks
[12:07] <bimberi> crowley1027: type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and copy and paste the contents of that file to a pastebin site ...
[12:07] <visik7> is there a package for ubuntu ?
[12:07] <crowley1027> i had to undo rtorrent
[12:07] <bimberi> !pastebin | crowley1027
[12:07] <ubotu> crowley1027: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <markvandenborre> arrenlex, I try to avoid sending an electronic greeting card back to a friend
[12:07] <crowley1027> bimberi!!! thats insulting...:(
[12:07] <cyber_brain_mfkg> someone know how to set up port on my Wireles AP (Planet WAP-4033)???
[12:07] <jhaquo> whats the tomcat default folder to put the webfiles plz?
[12:07] <bimberi> crowley1027: not intended to be.  it was to give you the URL of the pastebin
[12:07] <crowley1027> it set up build-essential 11.3
[12:08] <jota> hola atodos
[12:08] <crowley1027> but i know about pastebin.
[12:08] <markvandenborre> if I can open it using gnash, it's no problem
[12:08] <markvandenborre> otherwise, it is
[12:08] <devnull_> so reinstalling it is the same f'ing error
[12:08] <crowley1027> :) if it involves anything generally usable with windows i know it.
[12:08] <bimberi> crowley1027: yes, but I didn't know that you know :)
[12:08] <devnull_> whats the f'ing deal with debs anyway
[12:08] <crowley1027> i'm one of those people that are good with windows, bad with linux.
[12:08] <crowley1027> so i installed build-essential.
[12:08] <arrenlex> crowley1027: It's better to tell someone who might already know about pastebin how to use it, than to not tell someone and then find out that they don't. =P
[12:08] <crowley1027> can i install rtorrent now?
[12:08] <crowley1027> dir
[12:08] <tomlikestorock1> anyone ever have that problem? the first keypress is ignored?
[12:08] <crowley1027> oops
[12:08] <kitche> devnull_: what is wrong?
[12:09] <drkm> I am having a problem mounting my new partition.. I have added it to fstab with defaults, rw... it loads but won't let me write anything to it as a normal user... i've even chgrp to my normal use and chmod 755.. what am i doing wrong?
[12:09] <YoshiG3> LjL: Whatsup man
[12:09] <crowley1027> i dont have gawk, is that ok?
[12:09] <LjL> YoshiG3: just cleaning up a couple of bans
[12:09] <devnull_> dpkg: error processing courier-authdaemon (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[12:09] <YoshiG3> LjL: What IRC client do you use?
[12:09] <YoshiG3> actually, my fault. See offtopic.
[12:09] <Adil> drkm: If its NTFS. you cant.
[12:09] <vanberge> would anybody be willing to give me a hand troubleshooting a thunderbird / internet issue?  its driving me nuts  :-P
[12:09] <jotita> hwllow friends
[12:10] <drkm> Adil... its ext3... and you can... ntf-3g lets you write
[12:10] <devnull_> i dont even want courier mta on my computer
[12:10] <w3ccv> vanberge, what is your problem
[12:10] <robdeman> hey folks, I have apache and apche2 running on my Ubuntu machine for soem weird reason
[12:10] <devnull_> kitche i was doing a complete upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06 and this is where it stopped
[12:10] <robdeman> how do I prevent apache (apache 1.3) from starting at boottime?
[12:10] <jotita> help
[12:11] <vanberge> w3ccv, when i open thunderbird... my internet connection dies
[12:11] <kitche> devnull_: hmm what did you get that package from?
[12:11] <Adil> drkm:ntf-3g. Yes, try not to use it. Its dangerous. your NTFs can be come unbootable. regarding ext3, not sure. Never had that problem. Sorry :)
[12:11] <vanberge> w3ccv, i close thunderbird, ifdown/ifup my eth0... then it works again until i open thunderbird
[12:11] <devnull_> kitche i got all packages from the official apt sites
[12:11] <w3ccv> vanberge, no help on that, sri
[12:11] <removed_> so useless.
[12:11] <jota> help
[12:11] <crowley1027> !pastebin
[12:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <vanberge> w3ccv, i think it relates to my rss feeds... im not sure though
[12:12] <kitche> devnull_: you might have to purge it
[12:12] <robdeman> hey folks how do I remove stuff from /etc/init.d/ ?
[12:12] <devnull_> okay ... how
[12:12] <jota> ai am new on foro
[12:12] <devnull_> i will try anything at this point
[12:12] <ratdesang> Can someone recommend a wireless keyboard and mouse that'll just plugin and not really require any more configuration? I have an ubuntu machine running as a kiosk outside, and I live in Alaska, so I'm really wanting to avoid standing there and configuring it.
[12:12] <w3ccv> vanberge, drop themoutn and see if it works
[12:12] <jota> or chat
[12:12] <robdeman> I need /etc/init.d/apache to NOT load at boottime
[12:12] <LjL> Ubotu, tell robdeman about boot | robdeman, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:12] <devnull_> robdeman take it out of the runlevel
[12:12] <w3ccv> s/themoutn/them out/
[12:12] <vanberge> w3ccv, im doing it now..
[12:13] <w3ccv> vanberge, good luck
[12:13] <jota> help please server in spanish
[12:13] <vanberge> yeah, it is them....  wonder why that is causing a problem
[12:13] <crowley1027> bimberi:  This is from trying to install libtorrent - - - -   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36907/
[12:13] <w3ccv> vanberge, add one at a time back - check the url carefully
[12:14] <Adil> robdeman: http://www.mepis.org/node/6126
[12:14] <ProFfX> fuck have installed Ubuntu from being a redhat user :) Love it!
[12:14] <jota> help
[12:14] <devnull_> kitche, can't dpkg -P for same reason
[12:14] <plesnivyjano> i tried to move content of one directory to another. I had permissions for first directory but not for second. Now it seems content just disappeared
[12:14] <robdeman> LjL Yes cool thanks!
[12:14] <Navyseal> hey all
[12:14] <ProFfX> it found my Digitalcamera directly <3
[12:14] <devnull_> i cant remove or install anything at the moment
[12:14] <der0b> If I want to install freenx on edgy, should I be using the seveas dapper repo?
[12:14] <jota> proffx heph
[12:14] <jota> help
[12:14] <Navyseal> with what program do i extract video and sound from an .avi file?
[12:14] <bimberi> crowley1027: why are you compiling? rtorrent can be installed without needing to compile anything.  Enable the universe repository and then install it.  Or do you need a later version or something?
[12:15] <ProFfX> Navyseal, hi
[12:15] <jota> help
[12:15] <ProFfX> jota, whats up?
[12:15] <daxxar> How do I persistently change LC_MESSAGES?
[12:15] <der0b> jota: you need to ask a question
[12:15] <jota> spanish server please
[12:15] <der0b> !es
[12:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:15] <ThePub> jota: maybe it's better to state your question than just say "help" over and over again.
[12:15] <devnull_> courier-authdaemon wont remove itself
[12:15] <bimberi> daxxar: environment variable?  /etc/environment
[12:15] <devnull_> -r or -P
[12:16] <ProFfX> jota, hablemos en #ubuntu-es mejor!
[12:16] <arrenlex> devnull_: It says you should try reinstalling... what happens if you run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall courier-authdaemon"?
[12:16] <Adil> robdeman: move apache out of the /etc/init.d. restart. enjoy
[12:16] <ProFfX> sorry people, just told him to talk in #ubuntu-es
[12:16] <crowley1027> how do i enable the universe repository
[12:16] <daxxar> bimberi, I tried adding 'LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"' to /etc/environment, but on a relogin, it's still no_NO...
[12:16] <jota> ok proffx
[12:16] <robdeman> Adil where would I move it to?
[12:16] <bimberi> daxxar: not set, or set to something else?
[12:17] <devnull_> arrenlex lots of dependencies for other stuff comes up ... says to apt-get -f install
[12:17] <daxxar> bimberi, it's set to no_NO.UTF8
[12:17] <bimberi> daxxar: ah.  hm, perhaps it's being overridden somewhere else
[12:17] <arrenlex> Ouch.
[12:17] <Dybber> i have connected an usbdisk but and its saying "remaining disk space: 18,3 mb", and when i delete stuff it still says 18,3 mb remaining
[12:17] <w3ccv> robdeman, it's probably linked into /etc/rc.3   as SNNhttpd  Change the S to s
[12:17] <Adil> robdeman: You could create a folder inside /etc/init.d and move it there. Doesnt matter where, as long as its not in that folder (can be in a subfolder though)
[12:17] <arias> anyone who can help me with using 2 screens to one computer ?!
[12:18] <daxxar> bimberi, I was thinking so, but grep LC_ .* in my homedir yielded nothing interesting, and grep LC_ -r /etc/ the same.
[12:18] <crowley1027> how do i enable the universe repository bimberi
[12:18] <devnull_> arrenlex, yea its fun .. i was in the middle of upgrading to edgy from dapper
[12:19] <bimberi> !universe | crowley1027
[12:19] <ubotu> crowley1027: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:19] <devnull_> courier-authdeamon depends courier-authlib
[12:19] <bimberi> daxxar: yes, not finding much here either :|
[12:19] <LjL> devnull_: known bug... :-\
[12:20] <daxxar> bimberi, kinda annoying with localized output :p
[12:21] <devnull_> ljl any way around this ? i would like to finish the upgrade
[12:21] <LjL> devnull_: well, the comments in the bug report do contain some suggestions... as to the validity of them, i wouldn't know
[12:21] <devnull_> gotcha ... do you have the id of that bug report ?
[12:21] <Ady> anybody know how to configure a Belkin F5d7000
[12:22] <LjL> devnull_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/64615
[12:22] <devnull_> thanks
[12:23] <ThePub> devnull_: idk about recent apt, but dpkg used to be fairly hackable if you mucked around in the cache.  always fun to screw with if looking for a challange ^_^
[12:23] <Ady> anybody using a Belkin WIFI Nic BCM4306
[12:23] <bimberi> @bug 64615
[12:23] <ThePub> devnull_: but I didn't say that ;0
[12:23] <bimberi> as i suspected :)
[12:23] <devnull_> thepub .. hehe i usually do but with half of my software being upgraded and half not ... i am a little hesitant
[12:24] <ThePub> devnull_: nothing quite like solving the problem with a big stick right?  -_^
[12:24] <devnull_> its exciting
[12:24] <maccam94> ugh, i've got xp MCE booting issues after a fresh edgy install. hp, has a recovery partition, exact same configuration as here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1882863#post1882863
[12:24] <maccam94> haven't been able to find a fix
[12:25] <maccam94> looks kind of common tho
[12:25] <crowley1027> bimberi i'm confused on how to enable the universe thing.  can you just walk me thru it?
[12:25] <arrenlex> crowley1027: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:25] <crowley1027> i'm at the "software sources" screen
[12:25] <arrenlex> crowley1027: add the following line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[12:25] <arrenlex> crowley1027: Run sudo apt-get update
[12:26] <crowley1027> i'm at GNU nano
[12:26] <crowley1027> blank little screen thing.
[12:26] <devnull_> even forcing the removal fails
[12:26] <SNeeR> Who can help make a patch to use reiser4fs
[12:27] <crowley1027> arrenlex i typed in the link in GNU nano and hit enter.  now its just sittin round...what do i do/
[12:27] <devnull_> yikes
[12:27] <arrenlex> crowley1027: Paste "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse" into it with the middle mouse button or shift+insert. Then press ctrl+x to exit, type y to save and hit enter.
[12:27] <devnull_> time to hack the package list
[12:27] <crowley1027> k
[12:27] <crowley1027> done
[12:27] <crowley1027> i hit enter
[12:27] <crowley1027> so now its 2 lines.
[12:27] <arrenlex> crowley1027: Did it quit nano?
[12:28] <crowley1027> nope.
[12:28] <crowley1027> i can type another line.
[12:28] <crowley1027> sshot?
[12:28] <SNeeR> How patch a kernel? Do I have to recompile all kernell?
[12:28] <arrenlex> crowley1027: Let's review: ctrl+x, y, enter.
[12:28] <AcKroNiC> where is italian channel?
[12:28] <arrenlex> SNeeR: Why are you trying to patch your kernel?
[12:28] <arrenlex> !it | AcKroNiC
[12:28] <ubotu> AcKroNiC: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:29] <crowley1027> oka wait
[12:29] <SNeeR> arrenlex I wanna use reiser4 fs
[12:29] <crowley1027> click in an open spac ein GNU
[12:29] <crowley1027> filename to write?
[12:29] <arrenlex> crowley1027: ....did you run the wrong command?
[12:29] <crowley1027> ok, im out of the terminal.
[12:29] <crowley1027> tell me what to do.
[12:29] <arrenlex> crowley1027: command to start nano was "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:30] <crowley1027> in terminal correct?
[12:30] <SNeeR> arrenlex or I have other way?
[12:30] <arrenlex> crowley1027: If you're having so many problems with nano, just use "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" instead.
[12:30] <arrenlex> SNeeR: I don't know anything about reiserFS. Sorry.
[12:30] <crowley1027> ok arrenlex im at GNU nano
[12:30] <crowley1027> 1.3.12
[12:30] <w3ccv> going to dinner, but watching Good Evening (in this part of the world)
[12:30] <crowley1027> file: /ect/apt/sources.list
[12:30] <crowley1027> now what do i do
[12:31] <mike_> there a "multimedia repo" as in with debian?
[12:31] <SNeeR> Who know How to pactch kernell? I wanna use reiser4fs
[12:31] <wakest> what is the ppc channel of ubuntu?
[12:32] <jota> hola
[12:32] <arrenlex> crowley1027: Paste the following line into the file: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[12:32] <bimberi> mike_: no, but there are instructions in setting up codecs etc. ...
[12:32] <crowley1027> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[12:32] <crowley1027> is that correct
[12:32] <bimberi> !restricted | mike_
[12:32] <ubotu> mike_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:32] <jota> help como estro a ubuntu espaol
[12:32] <crowley1027> is that ALL i paste?
[12:32] <wakest> anyone know what the channel for the PPC version of ubuntu is?
[12:33] <jota> como entro a ubuntu espanol
[12:33] <Ady> my menus have started opening slowly, anybody got any ideas
[12:33] <bimberi> !es | jota
[12:33] <arrenlex> crowley1027: Good. Then press ctrl+x. It will ask you "Save modified buffer". Type the "y" key. It will now ask you for the filename to save under. Just press enter. This should quit nano.
[12:33] <ubotu> jota: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:33] <crowley1027> wait
[12:33] <bimberi> wakest: i don't think there is one, you can try asking here (if you haven't already)
[12:33] <wakest> oh, well, there used to be a ppc channel
[12:33] <crowley1027> error writing /ect/apt/sources.list: no such file or directory
[12:33] <wakest> hmm
[12:34] <arrenlex> crowley1027: It's not ect, it's etc. Like etcetera.
[12:34] <crowley1027> hhahahahah
[12:34] <crowley1027> oooh
[12:34] <devnull_> wow ... i had to create a /usr/sbin/courierlogger file
[12:34] <crowley1027> file exists, overwrite?
[12:34] <wakest> I am wondering if version 6.10 supports the powerbooks wireless card with out installing anything special
[12:34] <crowley1027> ok i overwrote it.
[12:34] <arrenlex> crowley1027: ...since you were modifying a blank file, if you overwrite you'll lose any custom repositories ... xD
[12:35] <crowley1027> *sigh*
[12:35] <arrenlex> crowley1027: Hope you didn't have anything important in there.
[12:35] <crowley1027> probly not.  BRAND new linux.
[12:35] <arrenlex> crowley1027: Now run sudo apt-get update.
[12:35] <arrenlex> crowley1027: Then all is good.
[12:35] <crowley1027> got it a couple hours ago;
[12:35] <wakest> I have installed it on my powerbook, but I don't know how to get onto the wireless network
[12:35] <crowley1027> ok getting lots of stuff :)
[12:35] <crowley1027> brb im goin up in the hellhole for food.
[12:35] <crowley1027> CHARGE!!!
[12:35] <Aji-Dahaka> howdy.  I'm having this issue with azureus where it's upset because I am using java 1.4.2 which it thinks I shouldn't be using
[12:36] <SNeeR> If I wanna patch my kernell Should I recompile it all when I patch it
[12:36] <Zakir> wakest: have you installed network-manager-gnome?
[12:36] <wakest> I just did the automatic install, from the live cd
[12:36] <bimberi> wakest: that probably means you have a broadcom card - this page will hopefully help - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:37] <bimberi> SNeeR: yes, you patch the kernel source so you need to recompile it
[12:37] <bimberi> !kernelcompile | SNeeR
[12:37] <ubotu> SNeeR: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:38] <_osiris> i was wondering if someone could help with a live CD install...i load up the live CD then i get an error saying cannot start gnome setting daemon after that when i click install nthing happens
[12:38] <buscon> Hi, is it possible to make an ubuntu mirror on a debian ?
[12:38] <arrenlex> buscon: On a debian what?
[12:38] <buscon> arrenlex, on a debian system
[12:38] <arrenlex> buscon: What are you trying to do?
[12:38] <ValMarko> I just installed Beryl. I'm amazed !! Now we're talking graphics :))
[12:39] <buscon> arrenlex, I need an ubuntu mirror for a lan of ubuntu machines, but I have only debian machines connected to the internet
[12:40] <jokoon> Hello back
[12:40] <GlutenBoy> Question: But first of all I must say that I'm now using Ubuntu as my primary OS for the first time and I don't regret it so far...
[12:40] <drkm> btw if anyone is interested... mounting with fstab with /dev/hd..... will only mount READ no matter what you set it as... will load properly if you use LABEL instead
[12:40] <mamonassassina> Hello people,I wanna know about iPods and iTunes.
[12:41] <Aji-Dahaka> apple.com
[12:41] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: thank you very much
[12:41] <arrenlex> XD
[12:41] <mamonassassina> i think i'll be banned if i say what i think about you right now in the channel
[12:41] <mamonassassina> anyway
[12:41] <mamonassassina> if anyone is here to help instead of making jokes.
[12:41] <bimberi> seconded :)
[12:41] <drkm> GlutenBoy: same here.. how long has it been your primary OS?
[12:41] <plesnivyjano> pls how to recover removed files??
[12:41] <bimberi> !ipod
[12:41] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:41] <mamonassassina> can i transfer files like a normal pendrive?
[12:42] <GlutenBoy> My question is: what is the best file system to share a drive between WinOS and Linux, should I use FAT32? Right now I use NTFS but I read that writing to this is still in beta (not always statble).
[12:42] <crowley1027> its updated
[12:42] <mamonassassina> bimberi: it can be answered with a yes or a no,i think it's easier to look for someone that can give me an answer rather than reading the how-to.
[12:42] <Aji-Dahaka> manuleviking: nope, but you can use other means ... chuck out gtkpod or amarok, perhaps
[12:42] <c0llin> hello
[12:43] <Zakir> you can't drag and drop files if you're using the basic apple OS... however, the rockbox firmware supports this.... try using GTKPOD or similar program for the basic apple firmware.
[12:43] <buscon> mamonassassina, rtfm
[12:43] <GlutenBoy> drkm: About a month or so
[12:43] <Aji-Dahaka> err... mamonassassina ^^you,rather
[12:43] <mamonassassina> buscon: atfq
[12:43] <manuleviking> Aji-Dahaka: ;)
[12:43] <mamonassassina> buscon: osu.
[12:43] <bimberi> mamonassassina: yes, absolutely, but just in case no-one knows
[12:43] <mamonassassina> bimberi: sure.
[12:43] <arrenlex> GlutenBoy: Fat32, yes.
[12:43] <bimberi> mamonassassina: which is a yes to "it can be answered ..." :)
[12:44] <ValMarko> Mamonassassina, Ve-se logo que s portugues. Vai para casa aprender a ser educado e depois aparece por aqui
[12:44] <mamonassassina> buscon: i think "atfqostfu" would be better.but when i sent the first part i hadn't thought of the second part of it.
[12:44] <bimberi> !stfu
[12:44] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:44] <mamonassassina> ValMarko: errou,burro,sou Brasileiro.e se ningum  mau-educado comigo,eu no sou mau educado com ningum.
[12:44] <ValMarko> pior.
[12:44] <LjL> !pt
[12:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:44] <crowley1027> rtfm?
[12:44] <buscon> mamonassassina, dunno your language
[12:44] <jokoon> Anyone having problem with the kernel headers recent update ?
[12:45] <crowley1027> jfgi?
[12:45] <mamonassassina> ValMarko: vai se fuder,porco racista.
[12:45] <ompaul> crowley1027, read the fine*** manual
[12:45] <bimberi> crowley1027: read the ... manual
[12:45] <ValMarko> :) eh eh
[12:45] <crowley1027> lol.
[12:45] <mamonassassina> buscon: answer the f** question or shut the fuck up
[12:45] <mamonassassina> that's what i meant.
[12:45] <jokoon> what is JFGI, period ?
[12:45] <mamonassassina> oops
[12:45] <arrenlex> !language | mamonassassina
[12:45] <ubotu> mamonassassina: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:45] <crowley1027> !language
[12:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:45] <mamonassassina> forgot to ** the second
[12:45] <mamonassassina> sorry,sorry.
[12:45] <crowley1027> arrrrr
[12:45] <crowley1027> haha
[12:45] <mamonassassina> anyway
[12:45] <crowley1027> !pirate
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pirate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <LjL> mamonassassina: it doesn't matter what you ** and what you don't
[12:45] <buscon> mamonassassina, question?
[12:45] <LjL> just don't use foul language, censored or not, and no personal attacks please
[12:46] <LjL> if you have issues with someone, resolve them in a private query
[12:46] <bimberi> buscon: bit hard to find it in the noise eh? :)
[12:46] <LjL> and use english on here please
[12:46] <crowley1027> yay, rtorrent installed
[12:46] <mamonassassina> buscon: can i transfer files to an ipod like i do it with a common pendrive?
[12:46] <mamonassassina> that's my question.
[12:46] <mamonassassina> because of this question
[12:46] <crowley1027> !porn
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <mamonassassina> that can be answered with a YES or a NO
[12:46] <mamonassassina> you told me to read the manual
[12:46] <Aji-Dahaka> mamonassassina: I answered your question...
[12:46] <iratik> wow i walked in a weird answer
[12:46] <arrenlex> crowley1027: I think google might be more helpful in helping you find THAT. o_O
[12:46] <GlutenBoy> My god I think it's the first time I use IRC since high school...sorry a flashback
[12:47] <Mike> Hey guys, quick question.
[12:47] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: you did?you told me to go to apple.com
[12:47] <iratik> How do you upgrade breezy to the newest dist, have done "apt-get update&&apt-get upgrade&&apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:47] <Aji-Dahaka> mamonassassina: after that...you know, after you asked your question
[12:47] <Mike> Is there a way to tell the cpu/memory usage and the like from the console?
[12:47] <c0llin> could someone point me in the right direction to setting up raid 0 for server install?
[12:47] <Aji-Dahaka> Mike: top
 err... mamonassassina ^^you,rather
[12:47] <mamonassassina> you mean,this?
[12:47] <iratik> Mike: top, uptime
[12:47] <arrenlex> mamonassassina: You were answered: (04:43:00 PM) Zakir: you can't drag and drop files if you're using the basic apple OS... however, the rockbox firmware supports this.... try using GTKPOD or similar program for the basic apple firmware.
[12:47] <mamonassassina> like...
[12:47] <buscon> mamonassassina, you could have read a lot of manuals...
[12:47] <Aji-Dahaka> mamonassassina: yeah, look just up from there
[12:47] <ra> I need to write to an NTFS disk. What's the best way to mount the partition? ntfs-3g or something else
[12:47] <linis_australis> greetings, Question for anyone: when I log in sometimes I am immediately logged back out. Also, when logging in on occasion I am bounced into command line login. Why is this happening?  nyone have any clues?
[12:47] <bimberi> !upgrade | iratik
[12:47] <ubotu> iratik: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:47] <Mike> Aji-Dahaka, iratik: Thank you both very much! :D
[12:48] <mamonassassina> up from there,the idiot telling me to read the manual?
[12:48] <george_> Do I have to uninstall gaim in edgy before installing the latest beta as a deb????
[12:48] <bimberi> george_: no, the package manager will handle that
[12:48] <george_> bimberi: thanks mate
[12:48] <Aji-Dahaka> mamonassassina: you hoon!  "nope, but you can use other means ... chuck out gtkpod or amarok, perhaps" <-- see that there that I wrote 6 minutes ago
[12:49] <arrenlex> mamonassassina: I think you should probably take "read the manual" as "I have absolutely no idea and probably shouldn't be answering this question anyway"... it doesn't seem that anyone who knows the answer is helping you, so just cool down and try again later, or use google. Sorry = /
[12:49] <mamonassassina> anyway,Zakir,thanks for the gtkpod thing.
[12:49] <ValMarko> Why dont you try Windows? There you can blasfem for free because you already paid for the product. Go ahead :)
[12:49] <mamonassassina> arrenlex: zakir helped me.aji-dahaka helped me.
[12:50] <mamonassassina> arrenlex: buscon had nothing to do with my question.here in brazil there is a saying that goes a little bit like "if you don't know how to help,then don't get on the way"
[12:50] <crowley1027> in the way*
[12:50] <mamonassassina> thanks.
[12:50] <crowley1027> no problem:)
[12:50] <bruenig> mamonassassina, there is a saying here that goes, fool me once.......shame on ...........you. Fool me twice....................you can't get fooled again.
[12:50] <iratik> Thanks
[12:51] <mamonassassina> bruenig: that didn't help me about my ipod.
[12:51] <crowley1027> ahahaha
[12:51] <buscon> mamonassassina, ok we're on a public list, sorry if I write...
[12:51] <crowley1027> pwnt.
[12:51] <bruenig> mamonassassina, but it is a saying...
[12:51] <ValMarko> Nobody is forced to help you. You're here at your own will. remember this.
[12:51] <crowley1027> touche-pwnt.
[12:52] <mamonassassina> ValMarko: absolutely
[12:52] <bruenig> ValMarko, that is not humanity towards others...shame on you
[12:52] <mamonassassina> at my own will,looking for help.
[12:52] <mamonassassina> and of course
[12:52] <ValMarko> Yahh... Humanity is your conduct ... eh eh.
[12:52] <crowley1027> about 18 hours for my pr0n?@!?!?!?!
[12:52] <mamonassassina> brazil is a free country,so,i can understand that people have the right to be idiots.
[12:52] <crowley1027> I only need 15 minutes of it!
[12:52] <GlutenBoy> Question 2:  In Synaptic Package Manager, what is the difference between Mark for removal and Mark for complete removal?
[12:52] <mamonassassina> just the way i have the right to get mad at them.
[12:52] <vanberge> is it quick/easy to configure plugins?  i.e. totem mozilla plugin plays videos right in my browser window?  i want vlc media to  open in a new window
[12:52] <ValMarko> Did you pay to act like a jerk with others?
[12:53] <Aji-Dahaka> brasil isn't a free country...but it sure ischeap
[12:53] <mamonassassina> GlutenBoy: i think complete removal removes all the "configuration"...thing of the package.
[12:53] <crowley1027> lol.,..
[12:53] <Aji-Dahaka> my company is constantly going there for the low-waged employment
[12:53] <arrenlex> Can we move the brazil argument to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[12:53] <ValMarko> Buy Windows and there you can say fuck you very loud because you, the humanitarian, paid for it
[12:53] <arrenlex> !language | ValMarko
[12:53] <ubotu> ValMarko: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:53] <crowley1027> ouch...governmentally-pwnt
[12:53] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: yes,there are poor people here.
[12:53] <bruenig> brasil*
[12:53] <dredhammer> hello i succesfully compiled vlc but its missing wmv3 support did i miss something in ./configure?
[12:53] <digitalsatori> When I explore the file system using Nautilus,  it can only display the files and folders in icon view ,while shifting to list view will leave a blank window. Anybody encounter the same?
[12:54] <bruenig> dredhammer, why did you compile instead of sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:54] <jokoon> Hello, I think I need some "heavy" help [I currently thank luck for me newbie to have learn ho to edit a text file VIM in a terminal, I'm with windows now] . There was a kernel headers update, and I rebooted much later. The update replaced my menu.lst (again, without the chainloader entries to boot up windows and the K7 latest entries) but worse, the X11 or X graphical interface doesn't want to start. How can I solve it ?
[12:54] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: surely not my case though.
[12:54] <jokoon> sorry for flood
[12:54] <dredhammer> flash video
[12:54] <dredhammer> plus wmv3
[12:55] <linis_australis> greetings, Question for anyone: when I log in sometimes I am immediately logged back out. Also, when logging in on occasion I am bounced into command line login. Why is this happening?  anyone have any clues?
[12:55] <dredhammer> unless 0.8.6 is in the repos
[12:55] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: you know that an ipod here costs 3 times what an ipod costs in the Usa.
[12:55] <Aji-Dahaka> jokoon: what does it do instead of starting?  any error messages or anything?
[12:55] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: so...
[12:55] <timtrimble> trying to upgrade from breezy to edgy.  unsure entirely what to do.  can someone help?  i had to do this because gparted would crash when I would try to use the edgy livecd.
[12:55] <crowley1027> in equivalent to US dollars mamonassassina?
[12:55] <mamonassassina> still,i have some important things to do
[12:55] <tim167> what's a good way to run small windows applications on ubuntu ?
[12:55] <crowley1027> do you mean it costs 200 US here and 600 US there, or 200 US here and 600 Peso there
[12:55] <mamonassassina> tim167: wine
[12:55] <timtrimble> tim167:  wine
[12:55] <linis_australis> tim167: wine
[12:55] <Aji-Dahaka> mamonassassina: I don't doubt it.  takes about 4 hours for me to earn an ipod, though.  I imagine somewhat longer for the average brasilian to earn an ipod
[12:55] <mamonassassina> crowley1027: in equivalent to US dollars.
[12:55] <bimberi> !wine | tim167
[12:55] <ubotu> tim167: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:56] <crowley1027> oh wow
[12:56] <crowley1027> tim167:wine
[12:56] <timtrimble> tim167:  apt-get install wine and then just type "wine <program name>"
[12:56] <tim167> :-D ok wine it is! is it in synaptic ?
[12:56] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: average brazilian...ya,i know some of those.
[12:56] <jokoon> Aji-Dahaka X says in some dirty text mode that some configuration files blabla with some report I can't understand. I just remember the last thing was like "no screen found"
[12:56] <timtrimble> yeah, tim167
[12:56] <timtrimble> trying to upgrade from breezy to edgy.  unsure entirely what to do.  can someone help?  i had to do this because gparted would crash when I would try to use the edgy livecd.
[12:56] <tim167> timtrimble: ok thanks!
[12:56] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: they work for my father.
[12:56] <_osiris__> is there any other way to install ubuntu than downloading the iso?
[12:57] <arrenlex> Anyone familiar with xvidcap? I am wondering what settings provide the best framerate in a movie. I can compress\resize it later; I just want to capture.
[12:57] <Aji-Dahaka> jokoon: you may need to try reconfiguring X, I'm not sure the ubuntu-approved method, but editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf or using xorgcfg usually work
[12:57] <arrenlex> ! install | _osiris
[12:57] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: still,my country has never invaded a country.
[12:57] <ubotu> _osiris: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:57] <arrenlex> ! install | _osiris__
[12:57] <ubotu> _osiris__: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:57] <GlutenBoy> Question3: Why when I try to Remove, let say Ekiga Softphone, in Synaptic it says I need to also remove the  ubuntu-desktop package and when I look at this package they say I shouldn't remove it?
[12:57] <mamonassassina> we have the most beautiful beaches in the world,the biggest river and the biggest forest as well.
[12:57] <Aji-Dahaka> mamonassassina: I wasn't going to bring that up.  I don't like insulting people just because of what country they come from.
[12:57] <bimberi> !offtopic | mamonassassina
[12:57] <ubotu> mamonassassina: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:57] <arrenlex> GlutenBoy: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage which can be safely removed.
[12:57] <timtrimble> how do i dist-upgrade from breezy to edgy?
[12:57] <mamonassassina> Aji-Dahaka: "brasil is surely cheap"
[12:58] <digitalsatori> Nautilus can only display the files and folders in icon view, not in list view. Can anybody help?
[12:58] <bimberi> !upgrade | timtrimble
[12:58] <ubotu> timtrimble: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:58] <jrib> !upgrade | timtrimble
[12:58] <Aji-Dahaka> mamonassassina: I've heard that
[12:58] <arrenlex> Can we PLEASE move the brazil discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, guys?!
[12:58] <timtrimble> tanks bimberi
[12:58] <_osiris__> thank you ^_^
[12:58] <jrib> hey!
[12:58] <bruenig> brasil*
[12:58] <mamonassassina> no,no offtopic,i guess i'm going to leave now.
[12:58] <bimberi> timtrimble: np, note that you should go breezy -> dapper -> edgy
[12:58] <maddash> !offtopic | maddash
[12:58] <ubotu> maddash: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:58] <_5-HT_> timtrimble: leap-frogging when dist-upgrading is not a good idea. Better to go Breezy -> Dapper -> Edgy to help avoid breakage. The follwing in an Edgy upgrade guide from the ubuntu wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[12:59] <Aji-Dahaka> so I installed azureus from apt, but it complains that I am running java 1.4.2 which it thinks is too old.  Is this a known problem?  is there a known remedy?
[12:59] <mamonassassina> RACIST PIG.
[12:59] <arrenlex> What the hell.
[12:59] <bruenig> Aji-Dahaka, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[01:00] <jokoon> Aji-Dahaka what kind of thing I should fix in this file ?
[01:00] <arrenlex> Anyone familiar with xvidcap? I am wondering what settings provide the best framerate in a movie. I can compress\resize it later; I just want to capture.
[01:00] <mame_runner> I was wondering if there is a faster ripper other than sound juicer
[01:00] <vanberge> could anybody help me change around my firefox plugins?  i want to use VLC and can't seem to get totem's plugin disabled
[01:00] <Aji-Dahaka> jokoon: it depends a bit on what exactly is wrong ... usually it states whether it is the video card or pointer device or whatnots
[01:01] <mame_runner> vanberge: CAn you just uninstall totem?
[01:01] <arrenlex> vanberge: apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[01:01] <timtrimble> thanks for help, all.  i'll hopefully be seeing you all in 6.10
[01:01] <vanberge> mame_runner, arrenlex when i go to mark that for uninstall it also requires taht i un mark "ubuntu-desktop" for some reason?
[01:01] <jokoon> Aji-Dahaka so actually xorgcfg is sure to fix the problem ?
[01:01] <Aji-Dahaka> jokoon: wort ha try at least
[01:02] <Aji-Dahaka> worth*
[01:02] <arrenlex> vanberge: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage which can be safely removed.
[01:02] <arrenlex> !metapackage | vanberge
[01:02] <ubotu> vanberge: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[01:02] <mame_runner> I dont think it actully uninstalls the whole desktop because I have done it for other aps.
[01:02] <jokoon> ok, thanks for te help
[01:02] <vanberge> arrenlex, ubotu  tyvm.   :-P
[01:02] <pablo___> hi, i am having problem to set up the ssid on a pcmcia
[01:02] <kbrosnan_> vanberge: type about:config in the address bar find plugin.expose_full_path and change it to true, type about:plugins in the address bar find the totem plugins, rm them, go back to about:config and change plugin.expose_full_path back to false (minor security issue leaving it true)
[01:03] <GlutenBoy> I just removed Ekiga and the "ubuntu-desktop" package and all when well phew ;)
[01:04] <ColonelZarkawi> greetings
[01:05] <pablo___> how do i setup the ssid on the network/interfaces
[01:05] <GlutenBoy> Wow cool there's a python-beagle package to do search with beagle in python code.
[01:05] <wyld> what can i do if i screwed up my sources.list?
[01:06] <dabaR_> !easysource
[01:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[01:06] <maddash> pablo___: do sudo network-admin?
[01:06] <wyld> thanks
[01:06] <k13> Hi there! I have the following situation: I have a LDAP server with user authentication (running on a SuSE), each user has a printing quota. I have a printing server running in Windows with share enabled (so I see it as a Samba share in the client PCs). The client PCs runs Ubuntu. So this is what I want: configure the Ubuntu's CUPS server to access this Windows share, BUT CUPS _must_ use the current username
[01:06] <k13>  and password to access it (like smb://user:pass@printing_share_server_host) because the server decreases the user quota by the pages printed. Is there any practical way to do this by configuring Samba, or CUPS to do this without the neeeding of wrapper scripts or the like?
[01:07] <n2diy> Hello, I installed Mondo with Synaptic this afternoon, but I can't run it, it isn't in my menus, and doesn't run from a CLI?
[01:07] <orangefly> i have samba and a vpn....the vpn is connecting, but how do i access my folders on the server....???....
[01:07] <ColonelZarkawi> n2diy, error message
[01:08] <n2diy> None, I just get the command prompt again, I ran updatedb, and that didn't change anything.
[01:08] <ubun> anyone know why all my movies are playing reaaalllly slowly? i have a fast machine and they werent doing this before. i installed all the codecs and stuff and am testing with mplayer, vlc and totem
[01:08] <ColonelZarkawi> n2diy, what does strace mondo say
[01:09] <n2diy> Cololnel, I don't know, I give it a try now.
[01:09] <ubun> they wreent doing this all slow out of sync stuff the other day
[01:10] <kitche> n2diy: it's mondoarchive -Oc 2 -g to backup to a cdr
[01:10] <n2diy> Colonel, it says command not found. Synaptic shows it as installed??
[01:10] <corevette> how come when i can't uninstall xgl without getting an error?
[01:10] <kitche> n2diy: the 2 stands for the writer speed
[01:10] <ColonelZarkawi> n2diy, probably you are not giving the right parameters to mondo as kitche suggested
[01:10] <ColonelZarkawi> n2diy, and the wrong command line program
[01:10] <ColonelZarkawi> n2diy, forget about my suggestion of using strace
[01:10] <pablo___> agggggghhhhhhh why it doesnt works the wireless
[01:10] <kitche> ColonelZarkawi: :)
[01:11] <pablo___> how do i check if the pcmcia card is rightly detected
[01:12] <ColonelZarkawi> Pablo, dmesg
[01:12] <n2diy> Colonel, kitche, thanks all try mondoarchive at the prompt, and see if it gives me any suggestions.
[01:12] <Navyseal> with what program do i extract video and sound from an .avi file?
[01:12] <kitche> n2diy: mondo's website has documentation which will tell you the most common switches and how to use them
[01:12] <crowley1027> how do you remove a program?  apt-get -r program?
[01:13] <maddash> pablo___: what's the problem?
[01:13] <ColonelZarkawi> crowley1027, apt-get --purge remove package
[01:13] <tom_kelleher> is it possible to add 'open terminal here' to the menu when I right click the desktop or a folder
[01:13] <maddash> pablo___: does "sudo network-admin" work?
[01:13] <Navyseal> use the synaptic crowley1027
[01:13] <pablo___> maddash: i set up the ssid but it is not working
[01:13] <ColonelZarkawi> tom_kelleher, xfce has that option already for the xfce terminal
[01:13] <ColonelZarkawi> tom_kelleher, in thunar
[01:13] <ColonelZarkawi> !thunar
[01:13] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0svn+r23151-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 384 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[01:13] <maddash> pablo___: huh? define "not working." what does the network-admin command bring up?
[01:14] <crowley1027> there isn't a way to get icons on desktop?
[01:14] <crowley1027> like Gaim or ktorrent?
[01:14] <Navyseal> with what program do i extract video and sound from an .avi file?
[01:14] <bruenig> crowley1027, right click on the desktop, create launcher
[01:14] <n2diy> kitche, thanks, I DLed the docs to, but they weren't very helpful, but running mondoarchive brought me to a menu, so now I'm on the right path, tnx.
[01:14] <maddash> pablo___: "it"? how did you even set up the ssid?
[01:15] <pablo___> maddash: it brings a panel to configure the networks
[01:15] <bruenig> crowley, or generally you can drag and drop stuff, like menu items
[01:15] <nexact> hey all, I have to install a perl package, Net::RawIP.. unfortunately, I can't find it, I need help please.. Thanks !
[01:15] <pablo___> maddash: and there i set up the ssid
[01:15] <maddash> pablo___: what does "iwconfig" say?
[01:15] <kitche> Navyseal: well there is many programs to do that but usually avi is just a container the format of the video and sound can be anything
[01:15] <tom_kelleher> ColonelZarkawi; thanks, I'm installing it now.
[01:15] <ubun> what should i do if all of my movies play realllly slowly and they werent before? something i installed or configured messed things up im sure but i have no idea what
[01:15] <kitche> nexact: you have to use CPAN and it's been a while sicne I used it myself
[01:15] <Navyseal> kitche so how do i do?
[01:15] <maddash> pablo___: how many wireless interfaces do you have?
[01:15] <pablo___> maddash: 1
[01:16] <maddash> pablo___: ok, so I assume that network-admin shows that interface, right?
[01:16] <n2diy> Navyseal, www.cpan.???
[01:16] <pablo___> maddash: right
[01:16] <maddash> pablo___: is the interface enabled? properly activated (via network-admin panel)?
[01:17] <pablo___> maddash: sure
[01:17] <kitche> Navyseal: well you want to rip them from the avi file?
[01:17] <ColonelZarkawi> tom_kelleher, it's a very nice thunar feature ("Open terminal here"). It is shown in the context menu when I click with the right mouse on a directory
[01:17] <kitche> Navyseal: and not redo the video in a different format or what?
[01:17] <ColonelZarkawi> tom_kelleher, I wonder why this is not a default feauture in NAUTILUS
[01:17] <kitche> n2diy: cpan is part of perl it's how you download modules of perl and such
[01:18] <Navyseal> well i want to extract them and get to put it in avi again kitche
[01:18] <tobi> Hello back
[01:18] <pablo___> maddash: but iwconfig doesnt tell me the ssid i put
[01:18] <maddash> pablo___: ok, open up network-admin (under sudo) again,
[01:18] <dabaR_> ColonelZarkawi: it is assumed that most nautilus users do not use a terminal, and thus the feature is not enabled by default due to the gnome hig
[01:18] <tom_kelleher> ColonelZarkawi; yea, I find that feature really helpful. Even if it's really easy to cd in a terminal I'm just lazy that way
[01:18] <n2diy> kitche, I think they have a website too?
[01:18] <tobi> using irssi in a DOS like test
[01:18] <tobi> text
[01:18] <maddash> pablo___: select your interface, click "properties,"
[01:18] <nexact> maddash, thanks for the hints, cpan is simple ;D
[01:18] <dabaR_> tom_kelleher: you can install nautilus-open-terminal and get the feature
[01:18] <pablo___> maddash: right, now
[01:19] <maddash> nexact: huh?
[01:19] <ColonelZarkawi> tom_kelleher, you are right "cd ../../../" and stuff... that sucks really :)
[01:19] <tom_kelleher> dabaR_; oh really? would that be in the package manager?
[01:19] <nexact> maddash, err, kitche.
[01:19] <n2diy> kitche, yep, it is cpan.org
[01:19] <benplaut> is there a non-break method for backporting the newest hplip drivers to dapper? just got a new printer, and it's only in a newer version. (power user, just not familiar with debian derivs)
[01:19] <jokoon> Is the person helping me 15min ago still there ?
[01:19] <maddash> pablo___: there's a combo box thingy right next to "ESSID:"
[01:20] <dabaR_> tom_kelleher: well, or you could compile it, but that package is in ubuntu...anything you install is through a package manager...
[01:20] <benplaut> well forget that
[01:20] <dabaR_> tom_kelleher: or shortly, yes
[01:20] <maddash> pablo___: if you click it, it should display to you the SSID of detected routers
[01:20] <benplaut> they provide debs... whaddya know :P
[01:20] <pablo___> maddash: yes where i set up the ssid
[01:20] <kitche> nexact: no problem just couldn't tell you how to get it since it's been a very long time sicne I used it myself
[01:21] <tom_kelleher> dabaR_; installed it :)
[01:21] <maddash> pablo___: click the "v" (down arrow button) - does it display the ssid of your router?
[01:21] <crowley1027> how do i install decoders for totem?
[01:21] <jenda> How can I empty the trash can with root privs?
[01:21] <ColonelZarkawi> !totem-xine
[01:21] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:21] <pablo___> maddash: i dont broadcast it from the router i just only like to set it up
[01:21] <dabaR> !codecs | crowley1027
[01:21] <ubotu> crowley1027: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:21] <tom_kelleher> dabaR; should I restart X or something? I don't see the option?
[01:22] <dabaR> tom_kelleher: killall nautilus in a terminal
[01:22] <dabaR> jenda: what are you asking?
[01:22] <bimberi> hi jenda, sudo rm -r /home/jenda/.Trash/*
[01:22] <tom_kelleher> dabaR; that exactly what I type?
[01:22] <vanberge> anybody could throw me a quick command for getting rid of stupid windows files that i migrated?  like desktop.ini and thumbs.db ?
[01:22] <dabaR> tom_kelleher: killall nautilus
[01:22] <kitche> Navyseal: try Cinerella
[01:22] <pablo___> maddash: whats that exadecimal or ascii thing?
[01:23] <tom_kelleher> dabaR; AWESOME! You rock!
[01:23] <kitche> vanberge: rm -i *.ini -i makes it ask you if you want to delete before it does
[01:23] <dabaR> ;P
[01:23] <maddash> pablo___: u only use that if you use password encrypted your router/client transactions
[01:23] <tom_kelleher> ColonelZarkawi; not sure if you caught that but dabaR just showed me a package that will add the 'open in terminal' anywhere
[01:23] <vanberge> kitche, could we integrate that into a larger search?  like find "desktop.ini, thumbs.db" | rm
[01:23] <n2diy> Mondo wants to know what /dev my CDR is, is there a quick way to determine that?
[01:23] <ColonelZarkawi> tom_kelleher, I didn't get that, which is the package?
[01:23] <pablo___> maddash: well mine is not encrypted
[01:23] <maddash> pablo___: what do you mean by not broadcasting from the router?
[01:23] <wabz> hi, my sound isn't working - I'm trying to rmmod snd_intel8x0, but it tells me it's in use. How can I find out what's using it?
[01:24] <econobeing> in beryl, when i'm switching desktops, the windows move...forward, like towards the screen. how would i turn that off?
[01:24] <washbear> any OOo 2.1 .deb packages?
[01:24] <ubun> should i enable kernal frame buffer, in xerver-xorg?
[01:24] <tom_kelleher> ColonelZarkawi;  nautilus-open-terminal
[01:24] <kitche> vanberge: well you can but what's the extensitons of the files just .ini and .db?
[01:24] <jokoon> Hello, I have some problem with a Xorg not wanting to start, tried xorgcfg but there no such like comand, I still need some heavy help
[01:24] <ColonelZarkawi> tom_kelleher, hmmm nice, I will instal too, thanks dabaR !
[01:24] <pablo___> maddash: i dont let the other machines to detect it, i have to set it up, it works for the rest but ubuntu 6.10 not
[01:24] <Aji-Dahaka> bruenig: is there a way to make that the default java?
[01:24] <vanberge> kitche, just thumbs.db and desktop.ini are the only ones i am concerned about
[01:24] <zacky> hello everyone!
[01:24] <zacky> i am just wondering when i type "about:configure" in firefox's address bar, it said invalid url?
[01:25] <bruenig> Aji-Dahaka, not sure how you installed the other one. That is the only java I ever installed
[01:25] <tom_kelleher> ColonelZarkawi; just install that then restart nautilus like dabaR showed me
[01:25] <wabz> zacky: about:config
[01:25] <Aji-Dahaka> bruenig: I think it's part of the default install.
[01:25] <ColonelZarkawi> tom_kelleher,will do, thanks
[01:25] <zacky> wabz: cheers
[01:25] <bruenig> Aji-Dahaka, pretty sure it isn't
[01:25] <maddash> pablo___: does ubuntu connect when you configure your router to broadcast?
[01:26] <wabz> how do I unload a module that doesn't want to be unloaded? -f gives ERROR: Removing 'snd_intel8x0': Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:26] <kbrosnan> zacky: it is about:config
[01:26] <n2diy> Mondo wants to know what /dev my CDR is, is there a quick way to determine that?
[01:26] <kitche> vanberge: then do rm -i desktop.ini thumbs.db
[01:26] <Aji-Dahaka> bruenig: it's depended on by ubuntu-desktop so for me it installed by default.
[01:26] <dabaR> wabz: what about blacklisting it and rebootinG?
[01:26] <pablo___> maddash: dont know, that shouldnt be the problem, i configured ubuntu 6.06 in another notebook with another pcmcia without bradcasting
[01:26] <Aji-Dahaka> bruenig: does java5-bin fulfill the dependency of azureus?
[01:27] <maddash> pablo___: also, are you connected to your router via hardlink/ethernet right now? maybe there's some conflict when you try to connect via wireless as well
[01:27] <bruenig> Aji-Dahaka, yes
[01:27] <vanberge> kitche, but that wouldnt go recursively through a directory structure would it?
[01:27] <jokoon> I'm running irssi now, can someone say my nick to see if highlighting works ?
[01:27] <kitche> n2diy: look at your /etc/fstab and see what gets mounted as your cdrom drive
[01:27] <pablo___> maddash: no hard link by that machine
[01:27] <bruenig> jokoon
[01:27] <jokoon> ah thanks
[01:27] <jokoon> so I ask my question again
[01:27] <kitche> vanberge: you will have to add the -r switch
[01:27] <maddash> pablo___: have you tried using the other pcmcia w/this notebook?
[01:28] <jokoon> Hello, I have some problem with a Xorg not wanting to start, tried xorgcfg but there no such command, I still need some heavy help
[01:28] <pablo___> maddash: thats what i will try
[01:28] <n2diy> kitche, thanks, I thought there might be a way to ls it, but I'll take a look in fstab.
[01:28] <w3ccv> vanberge, man find - there is a set op flags you can do with find that will rm files - first use print if they are correct then do it with the rm flags
[01:28] <dabaR> jokoon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the command to config x. DO you have a graphics card like ati or nvidia?
[01:29] <Aji-Dahaka> bruenig: sho 'nuff.  thanks a lot :)
[01:29] <slop> if i have an application running that's hogging up a lot of memory, is there something i can do to keep it from bogging down my system performance so much (besides buying more memory), like making it higher priority or something?
[01:29] <jokoon> dabaR: yes of course, I ran quake 3 with ubuntu like yesterday, 125 fps in 1024*768
[01:29] <jokoon> dabaR: nvidia
[01:30] <dabaR> jokoon: so x stopped working? I don't know much about fixing that other than the nvidia wiki page...
[01:30] <ColonelZarkawi> slop, fix the application
[01:30] <Aji-Dahaka> bruenig: so you use azureus with 1.5 and it doesn't core dump for you?
[01:30] <bruenig> Aji-Dahaka, I don't use azureus. I once did, and it didn't core dump.
[01:31] <slop> ColonelZarkawi: i don't think it needs fixing....i'm kinda over-using it...
[01:31] <jokoon> dabaR: first it began with a kernel headers update, it replaced my menu.lst with an new one, and when I started it, X told me there was problems, and that he did not want to start
[01:32] <kitche> slop: what program is it?
[01:32] <slop> kitche: rTorrent
[01:32] <crowley1027> HALELUJAH
[01:32] <kitche> slop: hmm odd you must be having a lot of peers or something connected to you
[01:32] <crowley1027> i found my 256MB lexar drive.
[01:32] <crowley1027> i can play pokemon sapphire now.
[01:32] <crowley1027> YESS
[01:32] <crowley1027> haha
[01:33] <crowley1027> !flood crowley1027
[01:33] <slop> kitche: well i've got 9 really big torrents open at once
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flood crowley1027 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <maddash> !flood
[01:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:33] <crowley1027> !flood|crowley1027
[01:33] <ubotu> crowley1027: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:33] <arpu> hi @ll
[01:34] <__mikem> Whats a lexar drive?
[01:34] <jokoon> How can I run a command in terminal without quitting irssi ?
[01:34] <proqesi> !op
[01:34] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[01:34] <nalioth> proqesi: yes?
[01:34] <arpu> can anybody help me with this problem ?  usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[01:34] <LjL> since when do we have !op anyway?
[01:34] <jrib> jokoon: use screen, or /exec in irssi might work (depends on what you want to do)
[01:34] <ColonelZarkawi> jokoon, screen
[01:34] <ColonelZarkawi> !screen
[01:34] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[01:34] <nalioth> proqesi: did you need help?
[01:34] <proqesi> nalioth: I need a cloak, do you know who is the staffer?
[01:35] <maddash> er
[01:35] <maddash> ok
[01:35] <maddash> that was weird
[01:35] <n2diy> Ok, mondo is cooking now, how do I do a restore with mondo?
[01:35] <__mikem> Seveas, is !op an aleas for !ops?
[01:35] <Seveas> yes
[01:35] <__mikem> figures
[01:35] <maddash> what's the point of !op?
[01:35] <jokoon> screen
[01:35] <zacky> how do i set firefox to use mplayer to handle all the videos instead of totem(cos totem doesn't work on wmv file)?
[01:35] <jokoon> even with the / is doesnt work
[01:35] <Seveas> maddash, to alert the operators when people are misbehaving
[01:35] <Crankymonky> maddash, to get an op's attention shoudlt he channel be spammed or something
[01:35] <jokoon> I'll reconnect
[01:35] <proqesi> Seveas: please, can you help?  I really *do* need a net cloak
[01:36] <maddash> Seveas,Crankymonky: thanks
[01:36] <Seveas> proqesi, a) that's offtopic b) don't abuse ops c) we aren't freenodestaff, see the freenod website
[01:36] <Crankymonky> maddash, de nada
[01:36] <proqesi> sorry, I couldn't remember your name and thought you might know.. :(
[01:37] <__mikem> proqesi, there is a local freenode staff member named nalioth who likes to hang around here, you can also PM him.
[01:37] <shwag> any used tripwire or something like that to watch for modifications to a machine ?
[01:37] <existence> How can I rewrite Grub to the MBR?  I reinstalled windows and it got wiped (i.e. I boot straight to windows).
[01:37] <bimberi> proqesi: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp
[01:38] <w3ccv> shwag, I used to use it on a Solaris machine - questions
[01:38] <nalioth> proqesi: __mikem is a helpful fellow who can answer your questions before he points folks around
[01:38] <lardarse_> does anyone know where the themes are stored for gnome ?
[01:38] <Seveas> existence, grub-install /dev/yourharddrivehere
[01:38] <nalioth> !tell lardarse_ about themes
[01:38] <n2diy> shwag, I tried in the past, with no luck, but I have tried it with synaptic.
[01:38] <__mikem> lol thanks
[01:38] <lardarse_> nalioth: ?
[01:38] <existence> Seveas, am I going to have to mount that in a live CD first?
[01:38] <Seveas> existence, no
[01:38] <nalioth> lardarse_: look to your private messages
[01:38] <n2diy> shwag, I meant to say haven't tried it with synaptic.
[01:38] <__mikem> unfortunately, I know nothing about the cloaks, except that unless freenode approves of it, you probably won't have much luck using it in these rooms
[01:39] <lardarse_> oh... damn, no sound on this computer
[01:39] <existence> Seveas, I can't get to my linux partition since I boot straight to windows..
[01:39] <proqesi> I already have a cloak, I just need it changed and lilo isn't around anymore
[01:39] <n2diy> Ok, mondo is cooking now, how do I do a restore with mondo?
[01:39] <Seveas> proqesi, ffs, stop being offtopic and follow the instructions people gave...
[01:39] <proqesi> a really popular troll has a similar name to me and I have to change my nick
[01:39] <lardarse_> nalioth: i meant where are they cutrently on my computer?
[01:39] <nalioth> lardarse_: if you read the info, you'll find out
[01:39] <shwag> n2diy: synaptic can watch my hd ?
[01:40] <n2diy> shwag, no, it can install tripwire. My past experience with tripwire wasl installing it myself.
[01:41] <tom_kelleher> I just tried to install an application but it said I couldn't install it because of a dependancies but I check in the package manager and I already have it.
[01:41] <shwag> n2diy: oh...so is tripwire the program to use though?
[01:41] <w3ccv> shwag, what's your question about tripwire
[01:41] <shwag> w3ccv: should I use it?
[01:41] <n2diy> To monitor for changed files, yes.
[01:42] <shwag> n2diy: so its like the defacto standard then ?
[01:42] <shwag> n2diy: is it easy to install on ubuntu ?
[01:42] <n2diy> Shwag, to monitor for changed files, yes.
[01:42] <shwag> n2diy: apt-get install tripwire ?
[01:42] <w3ccv> shwag, depends it does whatch the disk, but it can get wrapped up in itself - if it watches it's log files then they are always changing, configuring is time consuming, but worth it.
[01:42] <n2diy> Shwag, I have a linux security book, and tripewire is the first chapter.
[01:43] <n2diy> Shwag, I couldn't get tripwire to run, but maybe synaptic can do the job?
[01:43] <shwag> n2diy: i usually just use apt-get
[01:43] <n2diy> Schwag, apt-get install should work.
[01:44] <proqesi> Seveas: sorry, I'm just a bit distraught over the whole mess
[01:44] <w3ccv> shwag, I've had it run on Solaris and RedHat9 with no problems - right out of the box, so to speak
[01:44] <pasquale> ciao
[01:44] <n2diy> Ok, mondo is cooking now, how do I do a restore with mondo?
[01:44] <k13> where do I search the package directory like the search in packages.debian.org ?
[01:45] <ColonelZarkawi> k13, with apt-file
[01:45] <bimberi> k13: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:46] <ColonelZarkawi> k13, or with apt-cache searc
[01:46] <k13> colonel: i'd like to search the packages contents, and apt-file is too slow to build its cache...
[01:46] <garrettkajmowicz> Quick question:  If I want to fetch the source for a particular package I have installed on my system so that I can make modifications, what is the easiest way to do this?
[01:46] <k13> thanks, bimberi
[01:47] <n2diy> garrettkajmowicz, look for the CVS version of it?
[01:47] <bimberi> k13: np :)
[01:48] <ernz> When I try to rename the name of a USB device, Ubuntu doesn't allow me to, can someone please shed some light on why the text field is editable, but you can't actually edit it, and how I would actually go about doing it on Kubuntu/ubuntu?
[01:48] <w3ccv> garrettkajmowicz, my first look would be fershmeat.net
[01:48] <GlutenBoy> Why the search window of Beagle doesn't appear when I press F12? That's what is in my settings.
[01:48] <dabaR> garrettkajmowicz: apt-get src <pkg> if the deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list are uncommented
[01:49] <ColonelZarkawi> garrettkajmowicz, apt-get source
[01:49] <ernz> ... PleasE?
[01:49] <ColonelZarkawi> apt-get src
[01:49] <crowley1027> how do i install wine
[01:49] <ColonelZarkawi> E: Invalid operation src
[01:49] <crowley1027> how do i get it*
[01:49] <bimberi> !wine | crowley1027
[01:49] <ColonelZarkawi> !wine
[01:49] <ubotu> crowley1027: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:49] <crowley1027> can i get it via terminal?
[01:49] <ColonelZarkawi> crowley1027, yes
[01:49] <crowley1027> what command?
[01:50] <crowley1027> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:50] <crowley1027> AHH
[01:50] <crowley1027> i for got the install part
[01:50] <garrettkajmowicz> dabaR, ColonelZarkawi, thanks.  Download in progress.
[01:50] <bimberi> crowley1027: getting the hang of linux eh? :)
[01:50] <crowley1027> a bit :)
[01:51] <holyduck> hm, my apt has managed to go into somwhat of a infinitive loop
[01:51] <holyduck> it wont install anything
[01:51] <holyduck> becouse a file install was aborted
[01:51] <holyduck> and the dpgk --configure -a command
[01:51] <holyduck> just fails at fixing it
[01:51] <holyduck> it cant install the package either
[01:51] <holyduck> :(
[01:52] <Rasta> someone knows if is possible to have vmware player working fullscreen and change between workspaces with ctrl+alt+right without minimize the player?
[01:52] <dabaR> holyduck: how about removal?
[01:52] <holyduck> hm
[01:52] <holyduck> 2 sec
[01:52] <jrib> !enter | crowley1027, holyduck
[01:52] <ubotu> crowley1027, holyduck: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:52] <holyduck> sorry
[01:53] <holyduck> hm now why did'nt i think of that
[01:53] <holyduck> it seems to be working
[01:53] <dabaR> so I can fix the issue
[01:53] <holyduck> thank you dabaR
[01:54] <dabaR> $20
[01:56] <finchx6_> Hey, I'm quite the linux newb, and I just got XGL with Beryl running perfectly on edgy eft...  Although it's causing me a lot of problems because of a certain keystroke that is automatically implemented
[01:57] <finchx6_> it makes the keystroke shift+backsapce log out of your session
[01:57] <finchx6_> I know I have to change the modmap to change this, which I thought I'd done, but I'm obviously using a different modmap file than the one I made changes too, because nothing changed
[01:57] <finchx6_> and yes, I did have the rights to edit the file when I did
[01:57] <andyky> I'm having trouble getting a PCI wireless card to work. It's linksys WMP11. I've can see the  "driver installed, hardware present" message from ndiswrapper -l. Can anyone help?
[01:59] <finchx6_> So, basically...my question is this.  How can I find out exactly which xmodmap I'm using??
[01:59] <__mikem> We havn't had a good net split lately
[02:00] <dabaR> !xgl | finchx6_
[02:00] <ubotu> finchx6_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:01] <benplaut> i just hooked up my printer, and when trying to print anything the CUPS status of the job flips immediately from "printing" to "stopped
[02:01] <benplaut> suggestions?
[02:01] <pablo_> no, it doesnt works neither with the other card
[02:01] <n2diy> Ok, mondo is cooking now, how do I do a restore with mondo?
[02:03] <kuto> hi
[02:03] <kuto> how do i install flash with firefox 2.0
[02:03] <pablo_> yeesss now yes
[02:03] <funkyHat> I'm trying to use dcop over ssh and getting really weird problems :S
[02:04] <proqesi> finchx6_: did you try /usr/share/xmodmap?
[02:04] <funkyHat> matt@bloob:~$ ssh mesh 'dcop amarok player nowPlaying'
[02:04] <funkyHat> bash: dcop: command not found
[02:04] <Dustrh> sudo aptitued purge apache2 is leaving the conf files behind. shouldn't that command remove all traces?
[02:05] <Ropechoborra> What is dcop for?
[02:05] <funkyHat> But if I run dcop amarok player nowPlaying on a terminal on mesh it works no problem
[02:05] <kuto> zippity doo dah zippity day
[02:06] <sparky_elite> hey, does anyone know how to turn on MSN window closing notification in gaim?
[02:06] <sparky_elite> it used to work in 1.5
[02:06] <proqesi> the folks on #gaim might know
[02:06] <Dustrh> sudo aptitued purge apache2 is leaving the conf files behind. shouldn't that command remove all traces?
[02:07] <funkyHat> Ropechoborra, uh... I think it's a kind of message bus... it doesn't have a man page or an info page so I can't actually give you it's official purpose!
[02:07] <funkyHat> Ropechoborra, I just want to use it to grab 'now playing' info from amaroK on my other machine
[02:08] <Ropechoborra> =( no idea sorry
[02:10] <robert_> can I get bsd make pre-compiled for Ubuntu?
[02:10] <jvai> hey ppl
[02:11] <lubix> bsd is it own operation system robert_
[02:11] <robert_> I know
[02:11] <lubix> how would it be pre-compiled for ubuntu
[02:11] <lubix> that makes 0.00 sense
[02:12] <shwag> Can anyone help me to figure out why there is a 15 second delay when I ssh to my server before it asks me for my password?
[02:12] <proqesi> robert_: you can get a few bsd tools in bsdutils and bsdmainutils but I don't think make is one of them
[02:12] <OllieD> Hello
[02:12] <Thuryn> yo
[02:13] <lubix> oh bsd-make
[02:13] <lubix> i get it
[02:13] <robert_> I've got both bsdutils and bsdmainutils
[02:14] <lubix> are you a dev for bsd?
[02:15] <lumaQQ> Does anyone know whats the deal with Flash 9 in ubuntu ?  still cant get mine to work and i just found a new dead or alive vid on youtube ~~  this is mega important ~~ anyone offer any help ?
[02:15] <Jamo> how do I figure out if tomcat is installed on my ubuntu install?
[02:15] <OllieD> that's a secret
[02:16] <lumaQQ> Does anyone know whats the deal with Flash 9 in ubuntu ?  still cant get mine to work and i just found a new dead or alive vid on youtube ~~  this is mega important ~~ anyone offer any help ?
[02:16] <Jamo> like seriously how do I search for tomcat on this crap
[02:16] <LjL> !flash9 | lumaQQ
[02:16] <ubotu> lumaQQ: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[02:16] <proqesi> Jamo: you could try "locate tomcat" and see if anything comes up
[02:16] <lumaQQ> backports?
[02:16] <LjL> !backports | lumaQQ
[02:16] <ubotu> lumaQQ: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:16] <Jamo> thank you, that worked
[02:16] <LjL> Ubotu, tell lumaQQ about repositories | lumaQQ, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:17] <LjL> lumaQQ: you should read about how ubuntu organizes software, i think...
[02:17] <Jamo> hmm.. now I wonder how to run it :|
[02:17] <lumaQQ> LjL ?  why    ?
[02:17] <LjL> lumaQQ: because it's important to know... and if you had, you'd know what backports is :)
[02:18] <LjL> lumaQQ: software management is arguably the most important thing in a distribution, so you definitely want to understand how it's done
[02:18] <kuto> w00t
[02:19] <kuto> hi guys
[02:19] <mnoir> ok - I have my sources configured including all the source ones.  So how do I download the source for, say, bash or the 'most' utility using synaptic?  I know how to do it using apt-get.
[02:19] <LjL> lumaQQ: long story short: ubuntu (say Edgy) has an "edgy" repository, containing the (frozen, never-changing) release packages, an "edgy-updates" repository, which contains ONLY updates that fix VERY serious bugs, "edgy-security", which gives you security patches, and "edgy-backports", which can give you (if you enable it) new versions of packages that were 'backported' from the next (experimental) distribution, Feisty in this case
[02:19] <sud0> hi
[02:19] <kuto> mnoir try the search function
[02:20] <kuto> hi sud0
[02:20] <LjL> lumaQQ: each repository has a "main" (officially maintained, free packages) component, a "universe" (community maintained, free) one, "restricted" (officially maintained, non-free) and "multiverse" (community maintained, non-free)
[02:20] <funkyHat> Ok this makes no sense :/
[02:21] <kuto> funkyHat: what do you need help with
[02:21] <LjL> lumaQQ: specifically, Flash is in multiverse, and Flash 9, since it didn't exist at the time of the Edgy release, is in edgy-backports's multiverse
[02:21] <mnoir> kuto - nope, only shows the binary package
[02:21] <jvai> <--*taking notes*
[02:21] <funkyHat> If I run ./nowplaying on another machine (called mesh) it calls a program which tells me what track amaroK is playing
[02:21] <kuto> mnoir: sorry
[02:21] <funkyHat> But if I run ssh mesh './nowplaying' I get...
[02:22] <funkyHat> $ ssh matt@mesh './nowplaying'
[02:22] <funkyHat> ./nowplaying: line 1: dcop: command not found
[02:22] <LjL> lumaQQ: then there are the third-party, unsupported repositories (usually not recommended, but can be useful sometimes). you can manage (add, remove, change) repositories from the command line, or from Software Sources, and you can use apt-get (command line) or Synaptic to actually install/remove/upgrade the software
[02:22] <jokoon> hello, I already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but in recovery mode, but starting the system in no-recovery mode and I still have the Xorg telling there is some problem with the nvidia driver ...
[02:23] <bummerz> i looked at the faq but found no solution. i installed ubuntu edgy on my laptop today, runs great. i made 2 users and when i log off and switch user, the mouse cursor freezes i cant use it, but i can still use the keyboard part. any suggestions?
[02:23] <funkyHat> kuto, any ideas?
[02:23] <kitche> jokoon: pastebin your Xorg.0.log it's in /var/log at a pastebin site
[02:24] <jokoon> ok
[02:25] <kuto> funkyHat: your dcop server might not be working
[02:26] <kuto> funkyHat: i honestly dont have any ideas how to do network stuff in linux
[02:26] <funkyHat> kuto, the command works correctly when I run it locally on mesh though... :S (I'm sitting next to both machines)
[02:26] <kuto> funkyHat: what is mesh
[02:26] <dabaR> funkyHat: as a long shot, try installing kdelibs4c2a
[02:27] <funkyHat> kuto, my desktop pc, it's running Gentoo
[02:27] <funkyHat> dabaR, on which machine?
[02:27] <dabaR> funkyHat: the one where it does not work, off course
[02:27] <dabaR> of*
[02:28] <Stewie> Sup
[02:28] <LjL> !sup
[02:28] <funkyHat> dabaR, the other machine only has kde 3.5 though
[02:28] <ubotu> sup: Software Upgrade Protocol implementation. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8-12 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 212 kB
[02:28] <jokoon> kitche : http://paste.uni.cc/12202
[02:29] <goochy> how's everybody doing tonight?
[02:29] <dabaR> funkyHat: so you are saying that package is not available?
[02:29] <brianMan> How do I stop dhclient from populating the resolv.conf?
[02:29] <kitche> jokoon: do an lsmod see if you have a nvidia kernel module
[02:30] <LjL> brianMan: i removed the 'resolvconf' package to achieve that, not sure it's a reasonable route, and ymmv. maybe you could also just set -w resolv.conf
[02:30] <jokoon> kitche : the problem is that I managed to boot at least windows, is there things I should do after doing a lsmod ?
[02:30] <funkyHat> dabaR, I have a feeling it's something to do with ssh using the local system's environment rather than the remote one's :S if I ran ssh mesh 'dcop' it returned command not found, but if I run ssh mesh '/usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop it gives a different error (ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server)
[02:31] <jokoon> kitche : before I return to the recovery mode
[02:31] <funkyHat> dabaR, should ssh use the local system's PATH? (That's what it looks like it's doing to me :S)
[02:31] <dabaR> funkyHat: ssh is a remote login, it will act as if you opened a terminal right on the computer.
[02:31] <funkyHat> dabaR, no the package is available, but it doesn't match the verson of the KDE libs on mesh
[02:31] <kitche> jokoon: no lsmod just lists what modules you have on your system
[02:32] <brianMan> LjL: I'm sure I stumbled upon some way to stop dhclient from touching it, but can't find anything in the man pages.. Will try to dig deeper.
[02:32] <dabaR> funkyHat: that path is not in your PATH, if it says command not found.
[02:32] <dabaR> funkyHat: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:32] <lubix> feisty fawn
[02:32] <jokoon> test
[02:32] <funkyHat> dabaR, I know, but it IS in my PATH on mesh, so if I type ssh mesh 'dcop' it should be in my path!
[02:32] <YoshiG3> funkyHat: whatsup
[02:32] <funkyHat> dabaR, edgy
[02:33] <dabaR> find /usr/bin/dcop edgy
[02:33] <dabaR> !find /usr/bin/dcop edgy
[02:33] <jokoon> kitche : you think a kernel headers update would have changed the nvidia kernel ?
[02:33] <ubotu> File /usr/bin/dcop found in kdelibs-bin, kdelibs-dbg
[02:34] <desenv0> hi all
[02:35] <funkyHat> YoshiG3, ssh weirdness.... If I run ssh matt@mesh (my desktop PC) I can't run dcop (bash: dcop: command not found), but it runs fine in a terminal window on that machine
[02:35] <MarcC-Linux> when I try to uninstall Gimp it says it will uninstall Ubuntu-Desktop too...is this OK?
[02:35] <desenv0> anynone have experience with ubuntu vpn (edgy)?
[02:35] <dabaR> !ubuntu-desktop | MarcC-Linux
[02:35] <ubotu> MarcC-Linux: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:36] <funkyHat> MarcC-Linux, yeah that's fine, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage (doesn't contain any files)
[02:36] <MarcC-Linux> dabaR: thank you :)
[02:36] <MarcC-Linux> got it, thanks funkyHat
[02:36] <FreeNet> hi may i know where is the HTTPs certificates stored? in ubuntu?
[02:37] <YoshiG3> funkyHat: I was just sayin whatsup, sorry I can't help you with your prob, I switched back to windows =\
[02:37] <crazy_bus> Does anyone know of any good games that can run on older hardware, or a channel that could tell me.  (Geforce2, AthlonXP1800)
[02:37] <funkyHat> YoshiG3, ahh, ok :(
[02:37] <governator> yo
[02:37] <dabaR> FreeNet: did you create one?
[02:37] <funkyHat> YoshiG3, Ohh yeah I remember, odd problems with your graphics card or something?
[02:38] <FreeNet> no...
[02:38] <dabaR> FreeNet: or you bought one and want to pput it into the right place?
[02:38] <kling0n> crazy_bus: try wolfenstein: enemy territory or america's army
[02:38] <FreeNet> it's default there
[02:38] <kling0n> gah sleepy... going to bed
[02:38] <dabaR> FreeNet: ubuntu comes with a security certificate when installed?
[02:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, I'm sorry to bother you, but I need with my wireless connection again.
[02:38] <brianMan> LjL: supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; in /etc/dhclient.conf was the trick :)
[02:39] <kuto> ls
[02:39] <kuto> la
[02:39] <Low-> I bet lot of people have asked this already but here it is again anyone know why the easy ubuntu 404's after I try the apt-key add command?
[02:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> My Linux won't recognize my wireless card.
[02:39] <kuto> apt-get
[02:39] <Low-> server down?
[02:39] <funkyHat> dabaR, there's no reason why I should have to have any of KDE installed locally to use dcop through ssh though is there :S
[02:39] <kuto> apt-search
[02:39] <kuto> hello
[02:39] <FreeNet> oh... can I replace it with my own certificate?
[02:39] <kuto> hi FreeNet
[02:39] <crazy_bus> I'm not very good at FPS games.  Do those games you mentioned have a single player, or bots which I could practice on?
[02:39] <PORDO> i need help.  ever since upgrading to edgy, i can't drag windows to other workspaces.  i hold the window with the mouse, and then click a key combo to go to another workspace, but nothing happens.
[02:39] <kuto> hi crazy_bus
[02:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> It's worked for the past week, and then it suddenly stopped working.
[02:39] <kuto> hi PORDO
[02:39] <YoshiG3> funkyHat: Yeah, it wouldn't work...plus, the installing is just rediculously complicated. I'm happy with my windows, but I wish I had another machine so I could install ubuntu on it and run soem servers
[02:39] <ubun> any idea why my real movies don't have sound? (all other movie formats have sound for me, wmv, mpeg, etc) i installed real player
[02:39] <kuto> hi Spaghetti_Knife
[02:39] <kuto> hi YoshiG3
[02:39] <PORDO> hello kuto
[02:39] <kuto> hi ubun
[02:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hey, kuto.
[02:39] <YoshiG3> kuto: sup
[02:39] <YoshiG3> lol
[02:39] <YoshiG3> Spam again?
[02:39] <YoshiG3> Or you just gettin ban happy
[02:39] <LjL> just look above
[02:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> The thing is, I've tried ifconfig, and it doesn't list wifi0 or ath0.
[02:40] <dabaR> FreeNet: no, it does not have its own certificate, I was trying to get you to tell me what you want. Do you have apache2 installed?
[02:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> What should I do?
[02:40] <YoshiG3> LjL: Ah, ls, la, etc
[02:41] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, have you loaded the modules for your wireless card ?
[02:41] <dabaR> FreeNet: /etc/apache2/ssl/ is where it should be, afaik. Got that from http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign_ubuntu.html
[02:41] <FreeNet> yes.. all installed... my https is working. Now I just want to replace the certificate information to my house info
[02:41] <funkyHat> :(
[02:41] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid, what should I do? Where are the modules?
[02:41] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid: The wiki says that I should load madwifi, and I think I did.
[02:41] <benplaut> i just hooked up my printer, and when trying to print anything the CUPS status of the job flips immediately from "printing" to "stopped"...  suggestions?
[02:42] <benplaut> the logs don
[02:42] <benplaut> 't show something being flagged as an error
[02:42] <funkyHat> YoshiG3, I couldn't really work out what your actual problem was... (I wasn't paying attention when you first explained it I don't think)
[02:42] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife,  ok
[02:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_: ???
[02:42] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife,  modprobe wlan  ; modprobe wlan_scan_sta  ; modprobe wlan_wep
[02:42] <amattas> My girlfriends computer started randomly booting grub, and then going to stage 2, and error 2. I booted from the CD, but I don't remember what the default partition setup is to try to fix it.  Any suggestions
[02:43] <bummerz> reinstall
[02:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_, Is that what I should type into the command prompt?
[02:43] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, and modprobe ath_pci
[02:43] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, yes
[02:43] <amattas> reinstall not quite an option I need to save her data
[02:44] <cafuego_> rapid_: ath_pci would like linux-restricted-modules-($uname -r) as well
[02:45] <rapid_> cafuego, hmm..?
[02:45] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_, I had an error message. Should I pastebin it?
[02:45] <rapid_> paste it to me if you want
[02:46] <rapid_> or pastebin whatever
[02:46] <xipietotec> has anyone here played around with flickrfs?
[02:46] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_, the error is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36921/.
[02:46] <MSTK> hey, all.
[02:46] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ Thanks.
[02:47] <MSTK> mind if I ask a few questions?
[02:47] <MSTK> i'm new to ubuntu
[02:47] <manmadha> MSTK, ok
[02:47] <MSTK> okay, I have a Yama keyboard with USB midi output
[02:48] <MSTK> when I was using WIndows I could use it to compose and arrange music
[02:48] <MSTK> but will the Driver still work on Ubuntu?
[02:48] <kitche> MSTK: you will have to find the linux driver if there is one
[02:48] <MSTK> The driver was manufactured by Yamaha.  Not sure if they created a Linux one.
[02:48] <MSTK> so there's no work-around?
[02:49] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_  You there?
[02:49] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, yeah. what distribution are you on?
[02:49] <rapid_> ubuntu
[02:49] <rapid_> ?
[02:49] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ Ubuntu 6.10
[02:49] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, Check out the madwifi documentation, maybe even install it.
[02:50] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, try ifconfig ath0 up
[02:50] <MSTK> so I have to have a linux driver?  there's no workaround that allows me to use the windows driver?
[02:50] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ It says there is no such device.
[02:50] <rapid_> MSTK: ndiswrapper.
[02:51] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, ok.. you'll, compile madwifi from source and install it with your current kernel,
[02:51] <MSTK> rapid_ - thanks, I'll look into that
[02:51] <lumaQQ> Installing aMSN with an error messge... Dependency is not satisfiable  : Libc6   < whats this mean Anyone?
[02:52] <lumaQQ> Ubuntu 6.06 is called What???  ANYONE?
[02:52] <beuno> Dapper Drake
[02:52] <Jordan_U_> lumaQQ: How are you installing it?
[02:52] <LjL> lumaQQ: it means you try to install that using a non-Ubuntu package (or a package not for the right version of Ubuntu)
[02:53] <lumaQQ> a  i think i selected edgy but im using Dapper Drake ~~~
[02:53] <dabaR> !burn | vanberge
[02:53] <ubotu> vanberge: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:53] <kitche> vanberge: well k3b is a good frontend to cdrecord
[02:54] <lumaQQ> after dapper drake  ~ what version is there?
[02:54] <vanberge> kitche, thanks...  :-)   i'd like to keep it gnome based though
[02:54] <Jordan_U_> lumaQQ: Edgy
[02:54] <lumaQQ> after edgy is FF right?
[02:54] <kling0n> vanberge: k2b is the best solution out there though
[02:54] <kitche> vanberge: well the only thing that is gnome based is Nautilus cd burner
[02:55] <Jordan_U_> lumaQQ: correct.
[02:55] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ It still doesn't recognize the card. But it installed right.
[02:55] <lumaQQ> Jordan  ~~  WHY are they making me wait sooooo long for FF~~~~  i just cant wait~~~
[02:55] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ Should I input all those commands you put up earlier?
[02:55] <vanberge> lol... ok
[02:56] <Jordan_U_> lumaQQ: The release cycle is every 6 months, which is actually short compared to other distibutions.
[02:56] <lumaQQ> it is   but i still have to wait ~~~
[02:56] <lumaQQ> i wish i could use the test developer V  but my ubuntu isnt that good yet
[02:56] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ I input all those commands you told me to input earlier, and it's still coming up with the same error.
[02:56] <dabaR> lumaQQ: maybe you could freeze yourself, and get unfrozen after 6 months pass...
[02:56] <lumaQQ> dabaR i was thinking about that.
[02:57] <dabaR> lumaQQ: so was cartman...
[02:57] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ you there?
[02:57] <lumaQQ> dabaR  i LOVE crtman
[02:57] <Jordan_U_> lumaQQ: Yoiu can dual boot dapper and Feisty.
[02:57] <lumaQQ> Jordan_U_ now?
[02:57] <NoonInSF> My g4 powerpc imac will not hibernate or suspend, any suggestions?
[02:58] <Jordan_U_> lumaQQ: When you install ( from the liveCD just like the first time but with the Feisty CD instead of Dapper's ) resize your Dapper partition and use the free space to install feisty
[02:58] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ Don't leave me, rapid_! :.(.....(The periods are tears)
[02:59] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, I just got back..
[02:59] <lumaQQ> Jordan_U_  sounds like a good idea but i was thinking about movig over to xubuntu ~
[02:59] <lumaQQ> what do you think Jordan_U_?
[02:59] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, type lspci | grep Atheros
[03:00] <Jordan_U_> lumaQQ: Sure, you can also run: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and switch between Gnome and XFCE on the same install.
[03:00] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ Then what? ath0 won't come up.
[03:01] <jvai> there's fluxbuntu also
[03:01] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, do you have a atheros based card?
[03:01] <jvai> but i dont know if fluxbuntu is active
[03:01] <lumaQQ> fkuxbuntu ?
[03:01] <Spaghetti_Knife> Yes.
[03:01] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ yes.
[03:01] <jvai> yes, i dl'ed the iso for older pc's
[03:02] <lumaQQ> ok  my laptop isnt old but i want it to run faster.
[03:02] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, ok, did you look at madwifi documentation
[03:02] <Jordan_U_> lumaQQ: At one pint I had 13 Window managers installed at once to find which I liked best :)
[03:03] <joejaxx> Jordan_U_: lol
[03:03] <lumaQQ> 13!!!!!  toooo many~
[03:03] <joejaxx> Jordan_U_: how long was your list for gsm
[03:03] <joejaxx> Jordan_U_: gdm for the sessions list
[03:03] <lumaQQ> jordan when its finished DL what do i do ?
[03:03] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ Can you give me a url?
[03:03] <joejaxx> Jordan_U_: did it take up half the screen?
[03:04] <Jordan_U_> lumaQQ: AFIK feisty comes with Beryl installed by default which should speed things up ( it wastes GPU instead of CPU ) without having to use a lightweight window manager
[03:04] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, maybe madwifi.sourceforge.net or madwifi.org or similar
[03:04] <Jordan_U_> joejaxx: It scrolled :)
[03:04] <joejaxx> Jordan_U_: that is funny
[03:05] <dabaR> yay! I borked my apt system
[03:05] <joejaxx> dabaR: what is wrong with it?
[03:05] <dabaR> piece of crap. I am such a stupid...
[03:06] <dabaR> joejaxx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36922/ shows exactly what I did...
[03:06] <Jordan_U_> dabaR: "i" == sudo apt-get install ?
[03:06] <rapid_> Spaghetti_Knife, check your dmseg for errors aswell
[03:07] <dabaR> Jordan_U_: ya
[03:07] <dabaR> sudo aptitude install
[03:07] <maggie> hello, i looked on the forums and I can't find anyone confirming the adobe flash9 beta2 firefox lockup after closing a flash video. does anyone else have this issue?
[03:07] <dabaR> And I have no idea how to fix those errors...last time I reinstalled after a while of just manually installing packages.
[03:08] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ There are a crapload of errors.
[03:09] <shwag> what user does cron usually run as ?
[03:09] <Jordan_U_> dabaR: try sudo apt-get -f install ( no package name, just leave it blank ) and sudo dpkg-reconfigure <affected packages>
[03:09] <kitche> shwag: the user that made the cronjob
[03:09] <billytwowilly> If I get an error "unkown protocol "evdev"" and I have evdev installed how would I fix this in X?
[03:10] <Jordan_U_> dabaR: Also, do you know why debootstrap was being kept back?
[03:10] <vanberge> kitche, kling0n, GnomeBaker seems pretty nice for burning...  :-)
[03:10] <joejaxx> dabaR: oh wow
[03:10] <joejaxx> dabaR: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:11] <dabaR> pah, it got fixed
[03:11] <Jordan_U_> dabaR: How?
[03:11] <joejaxx> dabaR: ah ok  good :)
[03:11] <jvai> vanberge, in dapper, gnomebaker has nice sounds, when finished burns errors burns, & whatnot
[03:11] <dabaR> Jordan_U_: thanks. I actually knew about that command, the -f install.
[03:11] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ #madwifi's empty.
[03:12] <dabaR> Jordan_U_: debootstrap was being held back cause I enabled backports to install the cairo-clock.
[03:12] <jokoon> Hello, I need help to restore my Xorg
[03:12] <jokoon> x says blabla nvidia not happy
[03:12] <jokoon> I did a lsmod
[03:13] <jokoon> I don't know what for
[03:13] <kitche> jokoon: here is something to try sudo modprobe nvidia and see if you can do startx then
[03:13] <jokoon> aaah "startx"
[03:13] <jokoon> ok I try
[03:14] <Eclypse> that's ridiculous, edgy has already managed to successfully annoy me
[03:14] <Phelanor> Hiya everyone
[03:14] <Eclypse> in the network properties for my wireless card, I can't select my wireless router with in that
[03:14] <Eclypse> it wont let me simply ENABLE the bloody connection
[03:14] <Eclypse> so it CAN check
[03:14] <nn> Eclypse: 'man iwconfig' :)
[03:15] <Phelanor> I'm having an issue installing Edgy, I think its because I have an ATI video card
[03:15] <Eclypse> I'm taking the gui interface NN
[03:15] <nn> when GUIs annoy you, try console :)
[03:15] <Eclypse> nn, it used to just WORK
[03:15] <Eclypse> nn, now it doesnt
[03:15] <Phelanor> Hangs during installation, and theres a graphical mess below the status bar
[03:15] <nn> Eclypse: Ah. i'm in nyc, there's always 10 or 15 APs i can hop on
[03:15] <Eclypse> nn, this is retarded though, I can't enable the bloody connection within network setings
[03:15] <nn> Eclypse: so i just fire up kismet, pick out an ssid that's open, and voila! free interweb
[03:15] <Phelanor> nn: I live in Norwalk, theres six open APs, sadly they figure it out and boot me off
[03:16] <Eclypse> nn, omg, no way, it didn't prompt me for sudo,
[03:16] <nn> Phelanor: where's norwalk?
[03:16] <Eclypse> nn, did ubuntu go retarded?
[03:16] <Phelanor> In Connecticut
[03:16] <Phelanor> about an hour north via Metro North train
[03:16] <nn> Eclypse: did you enter your password for admin wrapper recently?
[03:16] <kitche> Eclypse: iwconfig can run as a user but to configure it you need sudo
[03:16] <nn> Phelanor: oh cool, wanna get drunk sometime? :P
[03:16] <Phelanor> What, no dinner?
[03:16] <Phelanor> Wheres the romance?
[03:16] <wastrel> "hello"
[03:16] <Eclypse> nn, this is a fresh install
[03:17] <Eclypse> nn, it doesn't prompt me for my password . . .
[03:17] <nn> Phelanor: Sorry, i don't have dinner with strangers, unless they're cute ;)
[03:17] <genben> hi all, i need Java 1.5 or later to run latest jedit, but the sys only upgrades to Java 1.4.2. is a later Java available in testing tree?
[03:17] <nn> Phelanor: i was actually gonna suggest a 2600 meeting
[03:17] <manmadha> evarina telugu vaaru ikkada unnara?
[03:17] <nn> Eclypse: strange, my install does
[03:17] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Have you entered your password recently?
[03:17] <Eclypse> jordan_u not to my knowledge.
[03:18] <wastrel> edgy has java5
[03:18] <Eclypse> jordan_u, it's just stupid
[03:18] <wastrel> er  1.5
[03:18] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Try running: gksudo echo "test"
[03:18] <Phelanor> Maybe.
[03:18] <jokoon> kitche: when sudo modprobe nvidia, tells me "fatal: error running install command for nvidia"
[03:18] <Eclypse> just prompted me
[03:18] <LjL> !fi | manmadha
[03:18] <ubotu> manmadha: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[03:18] <Phelanor> So anyhow, how does one install 6.10 when it hates ATI?
[03:18] <Eclypse> jordan_u, it prompted.
[03:18] <genben> wastrel: according to this it is only 1.4.2
[03:18] <kitche> jokoon: then your kernel module is messed up
[03:18] <wastrel> !info sun-java5-bin
[03:18] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21811 kB, installed size 65084 kB
[03:19] <jokoon> kitche: so I just have to update it ?
[03:19] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Then your menue item is probably just missing the gksudo, you can add it in with alacarte
[03:19] <manmadha> ok
[03:19] <kitche> jokoon: or reinstall it yes
[03:19] <Eclypse> jordan_u how?
[03:19] <genben> wastrel: the package is called sun-java5-bin ?
[03:19] <wastrel> hm but java --version does say 1.4.blagh
[03:20] <wastrel> genben:  yes
[03:20] <jokoon> kitche: so if I want a kernel for a K7 processor what component should I apt-get ?
[03:20] <jvai> ok peepz.. ty .. gn
[03:20] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: System -> Preferences -> menu layout...
[03:20] <genben> wastrel: k, thanks
[03:20] <wastrel> genben:  you may need to do  sudo update-alternatives --config java   to tell the system to use sun java instead of gjc
[03:20] <shwag> how do I change me default text editor ?
[03:20] <genben> k
[03:20] <kitche> jokoon: think the kernel for the nvidia module is the same
[03:21] <Eclypse> jordan_u then what?
[03:21] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Go to networking and add "gksudo" in front of the command, so it should read "gksudo network-admin"
[03:21] <vanberge> ok seriously does anybody else have difficulty with their internet connection??  like once or twice an hour it seems to just halt???
[03:21] <vanberge> or has anybody heard of this in ubuntu?
[03:21] <genben> so install the sun-jave first, the update-alternatives?
[03:21] <kitche> !ipv6|vanberge| this might help you
[03:21] <ubotu> vanberge| this might help you: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:21] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay, when I open Networking in the taskbar, it doesn't show a wireless option.
[03:21] <Jordan_U> vanberge: Does it always happen when you are on IRC?
[03:22] <jokoon> kitche: I'm with irssi with some dos like screen, isn't there so command I should do ?
[03:22] <vanberge> Jordan_U, no... at first i thought thunderbird was causing it...   but irc etc keep running fine.
[03:22] <vanberge> its like DNS lookups bomb out
[03:22] <Spaghetti_Knife> I go to system>Administration>Network Settings, and there's the wired setting, and the modem option.
[03:22] <Spaghetti_Knife> Nothing about wireless.
[03:23] <wastrel> shwag:   sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[03:23] <kitche> jokoon: you need to switch to another terminal with alt+ctrl+F2 and  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx might want to remove it first then install it
[03:23] <kitche> vanberge: then you probably want to turn off ipv6
[03:23] <Jordan_U> vanberge: The reason I ask is that threre is an exploit in some not up to date routers that people are using to disconnect people on IRC, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[03:23] <Spaghetti_Knife> HELP!!!
[03:23] <Spaghetti_Knife> Is it a computer virus?
[03:23] <jokoon> kitche: I'm in a recovery mode kernel right now
[03:23] <genben> wastrel: i am getting E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin, after doing an apt-get update
[03:24] <Eclypse> jordan_u, this is retarded, it still isn't working
[03:24] <kitche> jokoon: you should still have different terminals
[03:24] <wastrel> !java | genben
[03:24] <ubotu> genben: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:24] <genben> ta
[03:24] <Spaghetti_Knife> rapid_ You there?
[03:24] <wastrel> genben:  you may need to add the multiverse repo
[03:24] <genben> ah multiverse
[03:24] <genben> yep
[03:24] <Eclypse> jordan_u, it doesn't find my wireless card, but then when I have my network monitor listening to eth1, it shows that it is connected to somethign . . .
[03:24] <kitche> vanberge: ipv6 will slow down the internet dns look ups if you don't use it
[03:24] <datsclark> Spaghetti_Knife: It's not a virus. Probably just don't have your wireless setup
[03:24] <wastrel> genben:  & prolly better to install the jre package than just the bin
[03:24] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Eth1 is likely your wireless card
[03:24] <Spaghetti_Knife> datsclark Okay, what should I do?
[03:25] <vanberge> kitche, i think that is probably right... tyvm.   Jordan_U thanks for the info about the exploit...
[03:25] <Spaghetti_Knife> datsclark: It worked until around 5:00 this evening.
[03:25] <Eclypse> jordan_u, yes, that's what I'm troubleshooting here.
[03:25] <shwag> so how do I troubleshoot a cronjob that doesnt seem to be running?
[03:26] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: It is perfectly normall for a wireless card to be called eth1
[03:26] <Eclypse> jordan_u omg, lol
[03:26] <Eclypse> jordan_u that's not what the problem is
[03:26] <tim167> question about WINE: can I run a win program that needs to be installed by running Setup.exe ? (for example powertab from www.power-tab.net)
[03:26] <wastrel> shwag:  test it on the command line first
[03:26] <Eclypse> jordan_u, it doesn't find my wireless network in network settings.
[03:26] <Spaghetti_Knife> jordan_u, yeah, I have the same problem.
[03:26] <wastrel> shwag:  and after that think about the environment variables the program needs to run, which you may need to explicitly define in the crontab
[03:27] <shwag> wastrel: good idea. thanks.
[03:28] <funkyHat> Can anyone explain this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36928/
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Spaghetti_Knife: I may be misunderstanding your problem but "networking" ( network-admin ) does not search for wireless networks, for that you want wifi-radar or network-manager-gnome
[03:28] <funkyHat> (Messed up environment over ssh :()
[03:29] <wastrel> funkyHat:  you have a login shell in the one instance and a non-login shell in the other
[03:29] <tim167> about WINE: I tried installing powertab doing "wine Setup.exe" , but it gave a bunch of errors, ending with "failed, error 193" any ideas ?
[03:29] <jack|ass> So in edgy, "gnome-power-manager" has become somewhat retarded.  It decides the battery is "critically low" and goes to sleep as soon as i unplug the power cable.
[03:29] <jack|ass> Is there a fix for this?
[03:29] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_u: I go to System>Administration>Networking, and it lists only my wired and modem connections.
[03:29] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_u: I go to Wireless Assistant, and it closes automatically because it can't find any wireless components.
[03:29] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U: I think it's something with the OS.
[03:30] <wickedly_cool> is ubuntu 6.10 more stable than 6.06?
[03:30] <Eclypse> jordan_u, not liking edgy so far. doesn't seem as well built as dapper.
[03:30] <jack|ass> Eclypse: I concur.
[03:30] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: It ain't called Edgy for nothin'
[03:30] <Eclypse> jack|ass, it's retarded, bloody network manager.
[03:30] <wastrel> funkyHat:  or actually, vice versa
[03:31] <genben> is there somewhere to view all the files in a version/repos?
[03:31] <funkyHat> wastrel, hm.... ok, but I still don't understand why running dcop amarok player nowPlaying would work in a local terminal on mesh, but not in an ssh login shell from here :S
[03:31] <Eclypse> see, I can double click on the network icon on the panel, and it doesn't prompt for a password
[03:31] <jack|ass> Eclypse: i say power management wins in the "DING FRIES ARE DONE" department.
[03:31] <genben> ie edgy eft/multiverse
[03:31] <TuTUx> hi everybody, how can i make my irc like conky (use the desktop as bg)??
[03:31] <Eclypse> jack|ass eh?
[03:31] <Invader_Mistress> Quick question about networking. How do I connect to a friendly Wireless WPA-PSK secured network with the network admin setting it up under Windows XP Pro sp2
[03:31] <jack|ass> Eclypse: unplug power, it immediately goes to sleep.
[03:31] <funkyHat> wastrel, I thought they were the same issue (this machine not using the correct variables) but I guess maybe not
[03:31] <Phuzion> Anyone here able to suggest a good usenet client that can download binaries efficiently?
[03:32] <Spaghetti_Knife> Why isn't Ubuntu recognizing that my frakking computer can use wireless?
[03:32] <itsmabus> How can I upgrade my dapper system to edgy easily?
[03:32] <Phuzion> Spaghetti_Knife:  lspci, does your card show up?
[03:32] <funkyHat> Spaghetti_Knife, what wireless card do you have?
[03:32] <mister_roboto> Phuzion: pan is pretty good
[03:32] <jrib> genben: aptitude search '~smultiverse'     is that what you are looing for?
[03:32] <funkyHat> !edgyupgrades
[03:32] <manmadha> what is the actual meaning of creating backup ..I mean *.bak
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgyupgrades - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <genben> jrib: ta
[03:33] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: run: sudo -k , then try opening networking again, if you fixed the menu item it should prompt you for your password.
[03:33] <Spaghetti_Knife> funkyHat: A d-Link Atheros.
[03:33] <jrib> genben: I believe there is some way to use synaptic too
[03:33] <Eclypse> jordan_u, it does, but the icon on the panel doesnt.
[03:33] <funkyHat> !tell itsmabus about edgy
[03:33] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion: It doesn't show up. It shows an atheros ethernet controller, but I don't think that's my wireless.
[03:33] <Eclypse> jordan_u, it's like a web site with a ton of broken linksa.
[03:34] <tim167> anyone using wine ?
[03:34] <Phuzion> Spaghetti_Knife:  Please pastebin the output of lspci and give me the link
[03:34] <Phuzion> !anyone
[03:34] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:34] <jrib> genben: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ch02s03.html  by the way so you don't think I just picked it out of thin air :)
[03:35] <lovloss> Say i want to upgrade my cpu ^_^ seeing as its, er, 1.5 ghz...
[03:35] <lovloss> Can i finf out if my board can handle it using a linux command line?
[03:35] <funkyHat> !edgy | itsmabus
[03:35] <ubotu> itsmabus: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[03:35] <tim167> does wine allow running a win app that needs do be "Setup.exe" first ? if yes, how ?
[03:35] <lovloss> :(
[03:35] <funkyHat> tim167, sometimes, and quite simply... wine Setup.exe
[03:36] <lovloss> I need to know, you know, what my board's speed is and stuff. I want to go up to a pentium 4 with 3.0 ghz :D
[03:36] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion: Here you go.
[03:36] <ubun> after i edit /etc/sysctl.conf what do i have to do to make the changes take effect?
[03:36] <Spaghetti_Knife> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36933/
[03:36] <lovloss> im tired of blender rendering  soooo slow
[03:36] <Pelo> lovloss,  I think you would do better to look in your board manual to see what cpu it is made to handle
[03:36] <lovloss> Pelo - ... i wasnt given a board manual. i suppose i could look it up by type. I figured it would tell me my BUS speed or something
[03:36] <tim167> funkyHat: it didn't work with powertab's Setup.exe from www.powertab.net, anything else I can try ?
[03:36] <Pelo> lovloss,  or look up your board model on line
[03:36] <Phelanor> I'm having problems installing Ubuntu because of my ATI card, how can I configure xorg to take my video card?
[03:37] <Phuzion> seems like it's seeing your card
[03:37] <lovloss> ok. Time to squat with a flashlight
[03:37] <Phuzion> I'd suggest searching on Google for "linux drivers [model number] "
[03:37] <Pelo> !ati | Phelanor
[03:37] <ubotu> Phelanor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:37] <tim167> funkyHat: i meant www.power-tab.net
[03:37] <linax> hi
[03:38] <linax> Can anyone help me out here im relatively new to using ubuntu and im having trouble figuring some things out
[03:38] <Jordan_U> tim167: You can try installing it on windows then copying over the files / directories it creates in linux ( wine has a virtual drive C: folder in ~/.wine )
[03:38] <Pelo> linax,  just ask your question if someone can help they will try
[03:38] <Phelanor> Pelo: How would I go about doing that if this happens to me on install?
[03:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion: What do you mean?
[03:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> It's definitely not seeing my card.
[03:39] <tim167> Jordan_U: that's what I was afraid of :-P , but I can try that, thanks
[03:39] <linax> Well for some reason i can only hear the volume in a few things Like playing a cd or in a game i play but it wont work on anything else
[03:39] <linax> it only works if i play a cd or this one specific game
[03:39] <linax> i want to hear sound in other stuff but *sigh* no such luck
[03:39] <Phuzion> Spaghetti_Knife:  Can you identify why you have a second ethernet controller that has part of the name of your wireless card in lspci then?
[03:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion: I have no idea.
[03:40] <Jordan_U> Phelanor: You can follow the same steps to install the drivers on the liveCD, or , IMHO easier, you can install with the alternate, text based install CD.
[03:40] <Pelo> linax,  try double clicking on the sound Icon in the taskbar and see if there is anything in there you can ajdust or enable to help you out
[03:40] <tjs> are there any images of ubuntu that I could install form a 256 meg flash drive?
[03:40] <Phelanor> jordan: Thanks for the tip, alternate cd is installing now
[03:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion: When I try to ifconfig it up, it says that there is no such device.
[03:41] <tim167> Jordan_U: maybe I can retry wine Setup.exe, but give a linux compatible path to the installer script ?
[03:41] <Phuzion> Spaghetti_Knife:  Do what I said, search for the drivers.  Your card is most likely not showing up in GUI's and ifconfig because it lacks the proper drivers
[03:41] <Phelanor> er downloading
[03:41] <Phelanor> not installing
[03:41] <genben> jrib: k, thanks for the aptitude info
[03:41] <linax> i've tried this type of stuff pelo.... the only thing down is bass
[03:41] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion: It's worked until 5:00 p.m., and I just installed madwifi.
[03:41] <linax> the sound itself works but its not working with any other program at all
[03:41] <ubun> how do i make /dev/rtc readable by the user?
[03:41] <linax> just cd's and Second Life
[03:41] <Jordan_U> tim167: I am not a win / wine guy, you might get better help in #wine .
[03:41] <Pelo> linax,  try   typing alsamixer in the terminal
[03:42] <jokoon> kitche: when you told me the kernel was messed up, you meant the linux kernel or the nvidia kernel ?
[03:42] <Phuzion> Spaghetti_Knife:  I've never used madwifi, so I can't help you
[03:42] <ubun> chown u+r <user> ?
[03:42] <lovloss> :< *looking and looking* I hope it manages a 3.0 ghz... i want to process stuff fast... its brand new!
[03:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion: :.(....
[03:42] <Jordan_U> !install | tjs
[03:42] <ubotu> tjs: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:42] <tim167> Jordan_U: #wine is empty :-/
[03:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> The periods are tears.
[03:42] <Phuzion> I'd suggest trying to go back to old drivers and uninstalling madwifi
[03:42] <linax> ok
[03:42] <Pelo> tim167,  it's #winehq
[03:42] <dougsko> does anyone know if there a way to manually update the output of df? its like you can delete a file, then do df, but the changes arent reflected for a few seconds
[03:42] <tim167> Pelo: ok thanks
[03:42] <tjs> Jordan_U: thanks :)
[03:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion I installed madwifi after the problem started.
[03:42] <linax> ok what comes up
[03:42] <kitche>  jokoon: the nvidia kernel module
[03:43] <linax> is bass pcm treble and auto gain
[03:43] <linax> playback is capture all
[03:43] <linax> USB mixer
[03:43] <Pelo> linax,   arrow right , there is more stuff
[03:43] <Phuzion> Spaghetti_Knife:  Did madwifi ever work with your wireless card?
[03:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> Yeah, it worked until this afternoon.
[03:43] <Phuzion> Ok
[03:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> I have no idea what could possibly be wrong.
[03:43] <linax> stops at auto gain
[03:44] <Phuzion> Well, I've hit a brick wall, I can't think of anything else that could be wrong
[03:44] <Pelo> linax,   you can also try searching the forum for audio issues
[03:44] <linax> i've looked sadly the only thing i can think of is that its the headphones but that doesnt really explain why it works for some stuff and not others
[03:45] <Pelo> linax,  what doesnT work again ?
[03:45] <linax> the sound isnt working outside of playing a cd or running a game called SL that i play
[03:45] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion: Thanks.
[03:45] <lovloss> guys i cant figure out how to figure out what my model of motherboard is o.o  its a winfast tho
[03:45] <lovloss> how do i find out
[03:45] <Phuzion> Spaghetti_Knife:  Sorry I couldn't help you
[03:45] <Pelo> linax,  how about playing video files ?
[03:46] <Spaghetti_Knife> Phuzion: No problem.
[03:46] <linax> video files have no sound either
[03:46] <linax> =/
[03:46] <Zelda> hey everyone
[03:46] <ubun> how do i give a user read permission on a file?
[03:46] <Zelda> is there another DVD player program out there other then VLC?
[03:46] <linax> ubun right click and properties
[03:46] <ibb> xine, mplayer etc...
[03:46] <Zelda> that will play all codecs?
[03:46] <ubun> zelda mplayer... ogle i think
[03:47] <Zelda> I know VLC plays anything.
[03:47] <Pelo> linax,   double click on the sound icon in the task bar,   menu > edit > prefs ,  see what you can do with that
[03:47] <Zelda> how come that's not very popular?
[03:47] <linax> it allows the same options as the other things =./
[03:47] <linax> =/
[03:47] <Pelo> Zelda,  it's not a question of player it's a question of codex
[03:48] <kaynine> Hello all. I'm a happy Debain (sarge) user, wondering what reasons might exist for me to switch to ubuntu. Is there a list somewhere? Would you like to share your reason? Host is server, not desktop.
[03:48] <Zelda> so, which is best?
[03:48] <Pelo> linax,  you are doing something wrong becaue there is a whole lot of stuff in there
[03:48] <SurfnKid> hi i have a question about USB Drive
[03:48] <ubun> linax that only works if im the only of the file though, i need like a sudo/chown way
[03:48] <SurfnKid> when plugging it in, its read only
[03:48] <linax> bass boost
[03:48] <linax> treble
[03:48] <SurfnKid> how can that be removed... so read/write can be accessed
[03:48] <itsmabus> kaynine: if you like it, why change?
[03:48] <Pelo> ubun,  from the terminal   type   chmod --help and figure it out
[03:48] <itsmabus> :p
[03:49] <linax> pcm
[03:49] <linax> microphone
[03:49] <linax> auto gain control
[03:49] <kitche> kaynine: ubuntu is more up to date then debian and more user friendly that's wthe difference of debian and ubuntu really
[03:49] <Zelda> hey hair? which is the best all round codec player then?
[03:49] <kaynine> itsmabus: that's why I'm askin :)
[03:49] <kaynine> kitche: thank you
[03:49] <Pelo> Zelda,  congrats on the spanish but my nick is Pelo , not hair
[03:49] <Zelda> heh it means hair.
[03:49] <Bakefy> sometimes my screen saver does not work.  When it does not work its just a blank screen.  Any suggestions
[03:50] <Zelda> so, will you answer me?
[03:50] <Spaghetti_Knife> Can anybody help me get ubuntu to recognize my wireless?
[03:50] <Zelda> thanks
[03:50] <sc4ttrbrain> hi :D
[03:51] <SurfnKid> how can I remove read access from a uSB DRIVE
[03:52] <sc4ttrbrain> !nfs
[03:52] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:52] <Pelo> SurfnKid,   with chmod probably
[03:53] <SurfnKid> Pelo, yeah i thought so... but shouldnt a USB storage device come up as read/write for access?
[03:53] <kitche> SurfnKid: only if your root it will
[03:54] <Pelo> SurfnKid,  I don't know,  maybe it's a format problem  is it an ntfs partition ?
[03:54] <SurfnKid> kitche, ok smart man.. :) in english.. whatcha mean
[03:54] <SurfnKid> kitche, how can i root it?
[03:54] <kitche> SurfnKid: either you need to use umask to write to it as a user or use root powers
[03:54] <SurfnKid> i see
[03:55] <kitche> SurfnKid: such as sudo each time you want to do something the umask is easier when you mount it
[03:55] <kitche> anyways I'll be back later
[03:56] <SurfnKid> kitche, thx bro
[03:57] <olrrai_> hello
[03:58] <Spaghetti_Knife> Can anybody help me with the fact that my computer's not noticing my wireless capability?
[03:58] <vanberge> Spaghetti_Knife, is your card detected?
[03:58] <Spaghetti_Knife> vanberge: Nope.
[03:59] <Pelo> !wireless | Spaghetti_Knife   that's the best I can do for you
[03:59] <vanberge> and can somebody help me disable ip6?  I did what it said in the wiki but it is still enabled!!  :-(
[03:59] <ubotu> Spaghetti_Knife   that's the best I can do for you: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:59] <vanberge> Spaghetti_Knife, what kind of card?
[03:59] <Spaghetti_Knife> d-link, it's an Atheros base.
[03:59] <ColdFyre> what package provide 'smbmount'?
[03:59] <sc4ttrbrain> !ipv6
[03:59] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:00] <Pelo> Spaghetti_Knife,   you can also try looking up your modem model in the forum
[04:00] <vanberge> Spaghetti_Knife, you could use ndiswrapper... i've done that with unsupported cards and had success
[04:00] <ColdFyre> !smbmount
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <vanberge> sc4ttrbrain, i did that and it did not disable it
[04:00] <Spaghetti_Knife> vanberge: how do I use ndiswrapper?
[04:01] <vanberge> you have to install it first...  "apt-get install ndiswrapper"  then you use ndiswarpper to import the windows drivers for your card
[04:01] <sc4ttrbrain> !samba | ColdFyre
[04:01] <ubotu> ColdFyre: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:02] <sc4ttrbrain> Spaghetti_Knife: try madwifi first,its alot better than nduswrapper
[04:02] <Spaghetti_Knife> sc4ttrbrain, I just installed madwifi.
[04:02] <Spaghetti_Knife> It's not working.
[04:02] <sc4ttrbrain> oh ok
[04:03] <ColdFyre> sc4ttrbrain:  ubuntu server, doesnt come with smbmount, even in the universe repositories
[04:03] <ColdFyre> the mount -t smbfs .. doesnt like me
[04:03] <sc4ttrbrain> its in samba imo,
[04:03] <sc4ttrbrain> gotta reboot,bye
[04:05] <vanberge> hmm... has anybody disabled ip6 in 6.10?
[04:05] <vanberge> i tried what it says in the wiki and its still enabled.
[04:05] <Zelda> why do you want to disable it?
[04:06] <vanberge> Zelda, because its making my internet connection slow
[04:06] <Zelda> oh just wondering.
[04:06] <cafuego_> vanberge: Not, it's not. it's making dns lookups slow because it tries AAAA entries first.
[04:06] <existance> how do I figure out what drivers I need for my microphone?
[04:07] <vanberge> cafuego, well thank you.... but that does also = slow internet browsing.
[04:07] <cafuego_> vanberge: Slow lookups yes, but it doesn't affect data transfer speeds at all.
[04:07] <cafuego_> vanberge: Did you search for 'v6' in the firefox about:config ?
[04:08] <vanberge> yes that part is already disabled / false
[04:08] <cafuego_> Um,
[04:08] <cafuego_> network.dns.disableIPv6 should be TRUE
[04:08] <vanberge> but when i do the ip a | grep inet6 i still get output
[04:08] <cafuego_> vanberge: Yes, whether the ipv6 kernel module is loaded bears no relation to whether firefox uses it or not
[04:09] <bobbie__4> Hey ReDnEcKbOy you found the right server
[04:09] <vanberge> cafuego, well i'd like to disable it across the board as it affects email, irc, etc.
[04:09] <vanberge> firefox is actually working well
[04:09] <cafuego_> vanberge: it just has ipv6 entries for localhost and somesuch on the interface; that's fine - they don't interfere at all
[04:10] <ReDnEcKbOy> I already knew what server to use... I just didn't check what I was connecting to 'cause I didn't remember changing the server in the connection tool :P
[04:10] <ReDnEcKbOy> but thnx anyways bobbie__4
[04:10] <vanberge> cafuego_, the wiki says that you shouldnt get any output when doing the grep.  so, i guess i'm trying to understand why what i did has not disabled the kernel module?
[04:11] <cafuego_> vanberge: You blacklisted the ipv6 module?
[04:11] <cafuego_> vanberge: ... and then rebooted?
[04:12] <vanberge> cafuego_, i did the first three steps and then rebooted.  the blacklist part says 'for dapper'
[04:12] <Zemmy> hello
[04:12] <jesse`> Hey ho.  What's with the weird characters in Ubuntu man pages?
[04:12] <jesse`> They don't show up properly in, say, emacs or eterms.
[04:13] <jesse`> But they look peachy in xterms.
[04:13] <Zemmy> how do I install a .pl file?
[04:13] <jesse`> .pl is a perl file.
[04:14] <jesse`> You put it somewhere in your path and run it.
[04:14] <ReDnEcKbOy> alright! I hope someone can help me out... i'm still a newbie with Linux... Ubuntu 6.10 is my starting point... and i found out some cool info for setting up multi-track recording on it (which is the LAST step I need to take before getting rid of Microsomething for ever)... now I did everything I could, following the steps in the community stuff... and I can't seem to make my jack audio server run right... then I also wanted to
[04:14] <ReDnEcKbOy> setup timidity and that doesn't seem to work well either... is there anyone here who can help? I'm an amateur musician and I just really wanna get my demo out there but I wanna do it on my own but I have no money left to invest... And I really think the 'Open Source' could give me a hand ;)
[04:14] <jesse`> You might have to make it executable (chmod +x filename)
[04:15] <gentoo_helper> Hello there, can anyone help me do a dual boot with OpenSuSE? I installed SuSE first with its own /boot on /dev/sda1 (marked bootable) and it seems that in doing so I have made things hard for myself. How can I work ubuntu onto the spare space on the disk without reinstalling grub and without damaging my existing /boot?
[04:16] <Zemmy> I just get a "command not found" response
[04:16] <ubun> how come 'sudo chown o+r bla' says '"o+r": invalid user'
[04:17] <bimberi> Zemmy: try:  ./file.pl
[04:17] <SpacePuppy> gentoo_helper: just do a custom install and it should be obvious as what to do. You will prolly have to tweak grub.. so
[04:17] <gentoo_helper> SpacePuppy, Ok. How do I do a custom install? I'm not very comfortable with this debian style install process because I am used to Gentoo. :)
[04:17] <Flannel> gentoo_helper: "Expert" Install mode on the Alternate CD, will give you an option for lilo, grub, or none.
[04:18] <gentoo_helper> Flannel, ....alternate CD?
[04:18] <SpacePuppy> gentoo_helper: just do it.
[04:18] <gentoo_helper> Flannel, I take it this is not the Ubuntu 6.10 LiveCD
[04:18] <Zemmy> bimberi- its working thanks
[04:18] <Flannel> gentoo_helper: yes.  Alternate CD.  LiveCD is desktop CD.  This is just a text-based, debian-installerish installation CD
[04:18] <SpacePuppy> gentoo_helper: asking too many questions will just confuse you.
[04:18] <gentoo_helper> SpacePuppy, Is there an "expert mode" available on the regular old LiveCD?
[04:19] <SpacePuppy> i don't know .. boot it up and find out.
[04:19] <gentoo_helper> SpacePuppy, In the gentoo universe, asking a ridiculous number of questions is a requirement. :-D
[04:19] <malt> has anyone ever set up psychostats gaming stats for Counter-strike 1.6 on ubuntu?
[04:19] <gentoo_helper> Flannel, Ok. So on the LiveCD I can't tell it not to install Grub?
[04:19] <Flannel> gentoo_helper: I have no idea.  I haven't used the DesktopCD since... well... ever.
[04:20] <SpacePuppy> gentoo_helper: lol.. i guess i'm from the slackware model where if you dont rtfm at least twice before asking then no-one will answer you.
[04:20] <gentoo_helper> SpacePuppy, Ah. I've never used slackware. Only have one x86 machine. Has slackware ever been run on amd64?
[04:20] <Bakefy> anyone know why my screen saver is blank?
[04:20] <SpacePuppy> gentoo_helper: yes you can can tell it to install grub/lilo or nothing.. just doo it... and i don't know about slackware since about 4.3
[04:21] <Pelo> Bakefy,  becaue it is set to blank ?  or random and blank is up ?
[04:21] <gentoo_helper> SpacePuppy, On the LiveCD though, right? Like I said?
[04:21] <SpacePuppy> fire it up and go for it!! woooot!!!
[04:22] <Bakefy> Pelo, its on pictures, and it only works 5 % of the time
[04:22] <gentoo_helper> Flannel, If I have Ubuntu in a partition, /dev/sda4 and a /boot inside of / on that partition, then I can point my menu.lst entry for SuSE to that by giving the kernel line something like (hd0,3)/boot/whatever, right?
[04:22] <Flannel> gentoo_helper: yeah.  It's just normal grub stuff ;)
[04:22] <SpacePuppy> gentoo_helper: or you can mount that hdo,3 frominside ubuntu and then copy those lines into grub.
[04:23] <gentoo_helper> Flannel, Oh good. That I can understand. :)
[04:23] <gentoo_helper> SpacePuppy, There's a thought. I'd still need to edit 'em though.
[04:23] <what_if> does anyone here have sound working on YouTube ? if so .. how ?
[04:23] <SpacePuppy> a little vi and it's all done
[04:24] <gentoo_helper> SpacePuppy, Is it possible to append expert to the boot options on the LiveCD to get to a text based install? I have no working CD burner with which to get the "alternate" .iso at the moment.
[04:24] <vanberge> cafuego, i had to do the dapper part as well, it appears.   the kernel module is not loaded any longer.  thanks for helping me  :-)
[04:24] <SpacePuppy> what_if: no probs here// does your sound work normally?
[04:24] <devin_> i'm trying to make a partition for one of my drives does this look bout right for fdisk.  mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1
[04:24] <what_if> SpacePuppy: yes, everything buy youtube works
[04:25] <what_if> SpacePuppy: so... this is not a common problem?
[04:25] <draeath> help! gpg is timing out consistantly on keyservers, no matter what keyserver I try! wireshark shows some (not much) bi-directonal traffic
[04:25] <fabriciocscte> alguem pode me ajuda a instalar o ssh server...pelo apt get
[04:25] <SpacePuppy> what_if: nope.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq6nkk9mIcQ  works fine for me
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> !br | fabriciocscte
[04:25] <ubotu> fabriciocscte: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:26] <Phuzion> Anyone here have any good recommendations for a usenet binary downloader?
[04:27] <Phuzion> And preferably do not say Pan because I can't figure out why its not working
[04:27] <Flannel> gentoo_helper: no.  The textmode (alternate) CD is an entirely different method than the Desktop CD one
[04:27] <Pelo> fabriciocscte,  jo no esta espanol, jo soy canadian
[04:27] <what_if> SpacePuppy: tried that url, no sound
[04:27] <Pelo> e jo no parla mui espanol
[04:28] <what_if> SpacePuppy: i am using flash 7 and have 2 soundcards (which may be the problem)
[04:28] <gentoo_helper> Flannel, Ok then. Guess I have no choice but to get that image and burn it. Looks like I'll have to scrounge something. :-/
[04:28] <SpacePuppy> what_if:  is the sound slider up?
[04:28] <what_if> SpacePuppy: yes :)
[04:28] <gentoo_helper> Flannel, SpacePuppy, thanks for your help guys. I'll give the install a shot from the alternate CD as soon as I can find a working burner.
[04:28] <Flannel> gentoo_helper: eh.  not necessarily.
[04:28] <Flannel> !install | gentoo_helper, there's plenty of methods, see if you can find one that works (netboot, etc, etc)
[04:28] <ubotu> gentoo_helper, there's plenty of methods, see if you can find one that works (netboot, etc, etc): Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:29] <gyaresu> Anyone have a list of the Automatix packages so I can install them directly through apt?
[04:29] <Madpilot> Anyone know a good guide to using Firestarter to set up networking thru a 2nd eth port? eth0 is incoming net, I'd like to use eth1 to connect a visiting laptop...
[04:29] <gentoo_helper> Ok. I'll check that out. :)
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> !restricted | gyaresu
[04:29] <ubotu> gyaresu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:29] <SpacePuppy> what_if: only thing i can  suggest is that your flash install is foo_bar
[04:30] <Madpilot> gyaresu, most of it is the !restricted stuff, plus a few extras like Opera
[04:30] <gyaresu> tonyyarusso: thanks.
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> gyaresu: Also, !binarydriver
[04:30] <what_if> SpacePuppy: yeah, just tried illwillpress (foamy) and no sound there either... will reinstall flash
[04:31] <nn> <3 foamy
[04:31] <SpacePuppy> what_if:  :D
[04:32] <SpacePuppy> what_if: yup foamy works here
[04:33] <malt> has anyone ever set up psychostats gaming stats for Counter-strike 1.6 on ubuntu?
[04:36] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I force FrostWire to quit?
[04:36] <mark_> sudo pkill -9 FrostWire
[04:36] <Pelo> Spaghetti_Knife,  rightclick the icon
[04:37] <project_2501> does anyone have a problem with mounting cds/dvds and ubuntu list files on the cd as a bunch of random question marks?
[04:37] <Zakir> killall process_name... kill -9 might be a little extreme. :-)
[04:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> Umm, it's not working.
[04:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> What do I type?
[04:38] <Zakir> if you are using kill, you have to specify the process ID... if you are using killall, use the process-name
[04:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> FrostWire isn't quitting.
[04:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> So what exactly do I type?
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> Spaghetti_Knife, you can just type in xkill and then click....if you prefer that. >.>
[04:38] <Zakir> To find the process name and ID, you can run "ps -ef" in the terminal.
[04:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> It's not working.
[04:39] <Zakir> spaghetti_knife... what's not working? what are you trying?
[04:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> xkill.
[04:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> I click on FrostWire, and it doesn't close.
[04:40] <ReDnEcKbOy> alright! I hope someone can help me out... i'm still a newbie with Linux... Ubuntu 6.10 is my starting point... and i found out some cool info for setting up multi-track recording on it (which is the LAST step I need to take before getting rid of Microsomething for ever)... now I did everything I could, following the steps in the community stuff... and I can't seem to make my jack audio server run right... then I also wanted to
[04:40] <ReDnEcKbOy> setup timidity and that doesn't seem to work well either... is there anyone here who can help? I'm an amateur musician and I just really wanna get my demo out there but I wanna do it on my own but I have no money left to invest... And I really think the 'Open Source' could give me a hand ;)
[04:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay, it worked.
[04:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks!!!
[04:42] <nn> ReDnEcKbOy: timidity is a player, check out rose garden and audacity
[04:42] <mark_> ifconfig
[04:42] <mark_> Er..
[04:42] <mark_> Oops.
[04:42] <ReDnEcKbOy> I know... but I tried to Use timidity as my SERVER
[04:43] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: server for what?
[04:44] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: there's something I just googled up, http://jackaudio.org/
[04:44] <ReDnEcKbOy> server for playing back Midi since my soundcard doesn'T support it Hardware I have to install software support for midi
[04:46] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: well I don't know anything about music making, but that jackaudio.org looked like something you need
[04:46] <ReDnEcKbOy> OMG!!! Now with experimental MIDI support!
[04:46] <ReDnEcKbOy> that's not with the Jack I got in the Ubuntu reps =)
[04:46] <ReDnEcKbOy> thanks
[04:47] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: http://jackaudio.org/applications there's nice list of everything
[04:47] <zoidberg> does anyone know how to install a N64 emulator...i cant get Mupen64 to install?
[04:48] <what_if> does anyone know how to troubleshoot or setup flash? I have no sound, have reinstalled flash and tried different browsers
[04:48] <charlie5> hi ... is it ok to ask for laptop/notebook buying advice ?
[04:48] <ReDnEcKbOy> diskus, thanks I really appreciate it... i'm gonna try everthing i can find there ;)
[04:48] <Toma-> zoidberg, dont you just untar it and run it?
[04:48] <zoidberg> how do u untar Toma-
[04:49] <Toma-> tar -zxf filename.tar.gz
[04:49] <diskus> charlie5: I have HP pavilion and it works fine
 charlie5, just be careful if you buy a laptop with an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M... I never got anything to work in 3D 'cause the driver doesn't support it...
[04:49] <Toma-> zoidberg, better yet, right click and "Extract here"
[04:49] <diskus> charlie5: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[04:49] <olrrai_> later
[04:49] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: I got
[04:50] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: tremulous and some other 3d games work fine
[04:50] <ProFfX> hey
[04:50] <Toma-> theres also an ubuntu laptop page in the wiki somewhere
[04:50] <what_if> charlie5: i'd stay away from ati completely (in my experience) and I've had good luck with compaq laptops (on my third)
[04:50] <ReDnEcKbOy> diskus... how about the rest? what do you get as framerate with the glide gears?
[04:50] <ProFfX> I cant change my keyboard layout to Swedish
[04:50] <ProFfX> I tryed kbdconfig but its still Spanish layout :S
[04:50] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: well have to turn on laptop and check :P
[04:51] <Spaghetti_Knife> Anyone use FrostWire?
[04:51] <ProFfX> Spaghetti_Knife, didnt get it to start :S
[04:51] <ProFfX> so I started to us xMule :)
[04:51] <ProFfX> works nice
[04:51] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: ofcourse ati express 200M is not rocket, so I didn't even expect anything big :P
[04:51] <cafuego_> charlie5: if you're not too worried about extremely high 3d framerates, intel based laptops should be shiny. The 945 are supported and the X3000 as well these days I think.
[04:51] <charlie5> thanks guys ... i have 0 laptop experience ... i was hopring for something with a nvidia card, as i'm used to these
[04:51] <ProFfX> anyway someone knows how I can change my kaybord layout?
[04:51] <Phelanor> how can one boot up into command prompt?
[04:51] <spx2> can i be unbanned from #vim ?
[04:52] <spx2> i really need help from over there
[04:52] <spx2> does someone know anyone there ?
[04:52] <ProFfX> spx2, with what?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> spx2: ...that's entirely not our call - check chanserv for the contact if you need to
[04:52] <ReDnEcKbOy> well using microsomething windsomething i've been able to run great games like The latest tony hawk (before project8)
[04:52] <ReDnEcKbOy> and now in linux I can't even run Xmoto
[04:52] <charlie5> ReDnEcKbOy: yep, i've head the ati are not well supported in linux
[04:52] <spx2> ReDnEcKbOy: whats that again ?
[04:53] <charlie5> diskus: thanks for the site ... hadn;t seen it yet
[04:53] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: hmm.. you meant glxgears?
[04:53] <spx2> charlie5: i have ati 200m
[04:53] <cafuego_> charlie5: nvidia *should* work fine, but then, I've never used one of their laptop based gfx controllers
[04:53] <Phelanor> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu with my ATI card
[04:53] <shayan_> Does anyone know of some instant messaging bugs, harmless pranks that i can use with my freinds?
[04:53] <Phelanor> i installed successfully with the alternate cd and the text based installer
[04:53] <Phelanor> but upon boot i still get the same graphical glitch
[04:53] <charlie5> spx2: are i may have been misinformed :/
[04:54] <Phelanor> how can i boot into the command prompt so I can install proper ATI drivers?
[04:54] <ReDnEcKbOy> yeah sorry glxgears...
[04:54] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: it doesn't show fps, but runs fine, no glitches at all
[04:54] <cafuego_> charlie5: The thing is, not all mobile radeons are supported by the ATI driver, and ati's own driver is not a shining examply of stability.
[04:55] <zoidberg> do you guys know what it means when it says "GLX" missing on display 0:0
[04:55] <jackfrost> hello
[04:55] <Zakir> _charlie5: nvidia has worked great on several laptops I've used... but I honestly have never been able to get the ATI drivers to work... as well, the nvidia card allows you to easily use multiple screens.
[04:55] <charlie5> cafuego_: thanks ... i'll probably try to find one with a nividia card ... i use these in my desktop, and do a bit of 3d dev work, so it would be handy to have good 3d accel
[04:56] <ReDnEcKbOy> anyways I have no money to buy a new laptop so i'll just forget about it and just keep on suffering from the pain of not beeing able to play games :(
[04:56] <kitche> zoidberg: you don't have the glx module enabled in your xorg.conf
[04:56] <charlie5> Zakir: yep, i pretty well sold on a nvidia
[04:56] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: well I presume you did try ATI's closed source drivers?
[04:56] <Zakir> Phelanor: you should be able to hit ctrl-alt-f1 after bootup.. to access the CLI.
[04:57] <cafuego_> charlie5: *nod* My next one will be an intel (just recently bought an desktop mobo with integrated i945, which seems fine) - but I don't do gaming.
[04:57] <zoidberg> kitche: how do i enable it...i know that this has been giving me a problem...before i used to be able to run blender3d but now i cant because of this same reason...
 closed source?
[04:58] <diskus> ReDnEcKbOy: the ones you get from ati.com
[04:58] <ReDnEcKbOy> yes yes indeed I did
[04:58] <diskus> well works fine here
[04:58] <diskus> maybe slower ofcourse, because it's ati :P
[04:58] <diskus> slower than in Windows I mean
[04:58] <kitche> zoidberg you can do it this way sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and when you get to the module part make sure glx has a * in the [] 
[04:58] <spx2> is it normal that my computer stays less than one hour awake with its battery beeing full on start,just running basic stuff like ubuntu+gvim+firefox ?
[04:59] <ReDnEcKbOy> spx2, is it lasting longer in other os's like microsomething windsomething?
[05:00] <spx2> ReDnEcKbOy: i havent tried except for ubuntu
[05:00] <spx2> kitche: what do you think ?
[05:00] <spx2> diskus ?
[05:00] <FFForever> i have ubuntu & kubuntu and i was wondering how i re enable gdm i don't like kdm but i figured id give it a shot
[05:00] <diskus> I don't know, never used my laptop without AC plugged in
[05:00] <ReDnEcKbOy> OMG!!!
[05:00] <ReDnEcKbOy> lol
[05:00] <ReDnEcKbOy> you're killing the battery
[05:00] <diskus> batter is removed :P
[05:01] <kitche> spx2: soudns like your battery is draning to fast
[05:01] <jackfrost> pwned.
[05:01] <diskus> battery even
[05:01] <ReDnEcKbOy> diskus ok you scared me :P
[05:01] <yakumo> hi what is the different with Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic and Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-386???
[05:01] <spx2> ReDnEcKbOy: why do you think one is killing the battery that way ?
[05:02] <jackfrost> spx2 do a search on lithium ion battery maintence
[05:02] <diskus> and I think there must be somekind protection in laptops now, to prevent that
[05:02] <ReDnEcKbOy> spx2, if you never uncharge the battery... all the liquid hardens and then you never can recharge is enough...
[05:02] <spx2> ReDnEcKbOy: i got the laptop some months ago and im using it with the batter on and ac plugged in
[05:02] <FFForever> how do i enable the gdm?
[05:02] <gyaresu> Best GUI network manager? Suggestions?
[05:02] <Pelo> yakumo,  the generic package is just a dummy that load the correct one for your system,  to avoid screwups
[05:02] <Zakir> network-manager-gnome
[05:02] <gyaresu> Zakir: thanks
[05:03] <zoidberg> kitche: i just ran what you told me too...and GLX already had a * beside it
[05:03] <ReDnEcKbOy> spx2, there might be a way to make it come back a little faster... that would be to recharge it and bring it to complete death before recharging it again... and do this over and over again for a few dozen times...
[05:03] <zoidberg> kitche: should i try my program again or do i need to restart my computer?
[05:03] <spx2> ReDnEcKbOy: ill try that
[05:03] <FSRxc> Good evening
[05:03] <kitche> zoidberg: just have to restart X if you went though the whole thing with ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:04] <FSRxc> What would you guys suggest as far as eye candy goes? aiglx, beryl, or compiz xgl?
[05:04] <kitche> FSRxc: depends on card
[05:04] <FSRxc> nvidia FX 5700LE
[05:04] <kitche> FSRxc: I would just use the nvidia driver
[05:04] <FSRxc> Decent 256 mb card, I'd guess
[05:04] <ReDnEcKbOy> I for myself have a fairly new laptop.. had it for a year and I wait for the battery to die Everyday before I go to bed and plug it back in... I maybe lost half an hour of power after a Year of usage
[05:04] <Zakir> FRSxc: beryl or compiz will run on aiglx or xgl... beryl split from compiz and is the OSS optino.
[05:05] <kitche> !nvidia9|FSRxc
[05:05] <ubotu> FSRxc: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[05:05] <yakumo> the problem is i  upgrade using the auto update and when i restart, my grub list add other menu Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-386. when i choose it error 15: file not found... any idea why? :)
[05:05] <FSRxc> I'm on dapper
the problem is i  upgrade using the auto update and when i restart, my grub list add other menu Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-386. when i choose it error 15: file not found... any idea why? :)
[05:06] <sphorbis> i
[05:06] <Pelo> yakumo,  no,sorry,  , you can always edit grub not to have the option
[05:06] <sphorbis> i'm doing a fresh install of edgy and i keep getting x server failures
[05:06] <FSRxc> Last time I installed xgl/compiz via the ubuntu guide
[05:07] <FSRxc> Various errors came up
[05:07] <kitche> sphorbis: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and reconfigure X fixes my problem
[05:07] <FSRxc> To the point where it eventually caused X to not start.
[05:07] <sphorbis> thx kitche
[05:07] <FloK> hi. how can i disable tooltips in gnome pls?
[05:07] <Zakir> FSRxc I remember that there were a couple of issues when they made some larger changes to the compiz structure and the wiki wasn't fixed for a little while.
[05:07] <yakumo> yes thnks anyway, i edited my grub list
[05:08] <FSRxc> I see
[05:08] <FSRxc> Basically, my goal is to make a vista-like interface :-|
[05:08] <what_if> i have no sound in flashplayer... can someone help ??
 what's the point of making something ulgy out of beautiful?
[05:08] <FSRxc> lmao
[05:08] <FSRxc> I just want to tease some friends
[05:09] <sc4ttrbrain> FSRxc: :have u tried beryl?
[05:09] <FSRxc> "Not that you would, but you could" sorta thing
[05:09] <FSRxc> Nope.
[05:09] <FSRxc> Is there a site or guide?
[05:09] <Zakir> FSRxc: I'd go with beryl... since that's a continuation of compiz that has the most development.... However, I can't give you advice on XGL vs AIGL... when I ran XGL... it was pretty unstable for me... so personally, if I tried again, I'd use AIGL.
 time - money and you're wasting it... congrats
[05:09] <sc4ttrbrain> try it, its easy to clone vista, mac ,anything :D
[05:10] <sc4ttrbrain> anyway ,im using aiglx
[05:10] <spx2> i have ati radeon 200m , i get only 60hz on my display,i don't know my sync rates,what do i do ? i tried searching for them got nothing. :(
[05:10] <FSRxc> Cool, and yeah, I had a friend recommnd aiglx to me
[05:10] <FSRxc> redneckboy, I'm not wasting any money
[05:10] <spx2> HEEELP
[05:10] <ReDnEcKbOy> FSRxc, no but time
[05:10] <FSRxc> Fair enough
[05:10] <spx2> i have ati radeon 200m , i get only 60hz on my display,i don't know my  sync rates,what do i do ? i tried searching for them got nothing. :(
[05:10] <spx2> HEELP
[05:11] <sc4ttrbrain> ReDnEcKbOy: :to convert ppl to ubuntu, all what it takes, i will :D
[05:11] <ReDnEcKbOy> spx2 I know there's a way to get the framerate with glxgears but i don't know the commands... try glxgears --help
[05:11] <Zakir> FSRxc: I disagree with redneckboy... I have some coworkers who believe that when used correctly, beryl actually makes them more productive for features such as switching windows... transparency... the window sorting, etc.
[05:11] <spx2> ReDnEcKbOy: not the framerate,the vertical and horizontal syncs !
[05:11] <ReDnEcKbOy> Zakir... i'm okay with the optimization process... but making it look like windows... isn't it odd?
[05:12] <spx2> HOW DO I GET MY MONITOR MORE THAN 60HZ ?
[05:12] <sc4ttrbrain> convert ppl dude
[05:12] <FSRxc> Yup
[05:12] <FSRxc> I know some people that are wanting to try linux
[05:12] <FSRxc> But... they're still pawns to the window
[05:12] <ReDnEcKbOy> spx2, I have an ATI 200M too and never got sweet fudge all to work... ati drivers = crap
[05:12] <FSRxc> So if I could lead the way
[05:12] <FSRxc> And show them that they don't need a monster of a computer, all is well :)
[05:13] <sc4ttrbrain> ati radeon 9000 works like CHARM !
[05:13] <Zakir> FSRxc: yeah, it'll take you some time. :-) It won't work the first time... but by the time your done... you'll know your xorg.conf a whole lot better! :-) REDNECKBOY... I agree that I wouldn't make it look like windows... but I personally was ready to be done with windows forever... some people aren't... little by little... if the eye candy moves them over (even it looks like Vista), then I'm all for it!
[05:13] <spx2> ReDnEcKbOy: I JUST NEED TO GET A DECENT REFRESH RATE 60HZ IS BURNING MY EYES REALLY!
[05:13] <ReDnEcKbOy> FSRxc, someone already tried and called it lindows, got sued by microsoft and called it linspire... it never worked
[05:13] <VerdRousseau> can anyone here help me get my Dell truemobile working with ndiswrapper
[05:13] <kitche> spx2: go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be252
[05:13] <FSRxc> I'm fairly familiar with my xorg.conf, lol
[05:13] <spx2> thx kitche
[05:14] <FSRxc> Hey... I have linspire
[05:14] <FSRxc> Somewhere...
[05:14] <spx2> kitche: i have LCD no CRT
[05:14] <ReDnEcKbOy> Linspire though was a scam... you had to pay for the 'click and run' which is exactly the same thing as the synaptics...
[05:14] <FSRxc> Yup
[05:14] <FSRxc> I didn't buy linspire
[05:14] <Zakir> FSRxc: setting up compiz was my first major "project" on linux... I bugged the heck out of the unix sysadmin... breaking X over and over again... but eventually figured it out. :-0
[05:15] <FSRxc> They had a short period where they gave that out for free
[05:15] <sc4ttrbrain> !offtopic :D
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <ReDnEcKbOy> I installed it once and got rid of it the next day lol
[05:15] <kitche> spx2: ok see if these commands will return anything to you sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[05:15] <FSRxc> I never even installed it, HA!
[05:15] <FSRxc> ;)
[05:15] <FSRxc> Zakir, how many times did you break linux with compiz?
[05:15] <AngryElf> given that /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist AND xorg.conf.bak does -- why does "sudo sed 's/nv/nvidia/g' xorg.conf.bak > xorg.conf" give xorg.conf: Permission denied???
[05:16] <spx2> kitche: hang on
[05:16] <spx2> AngryElf: get root!
[05:16] <Gilbert_4321> if i install ubuntu on my windows xp labtop do i lose my xp os or do i ceep it and get #ubuntu also?
[05:16] <Gilbert_4321> i mean ubuntu lol
[05:17] <spx2> kitche: root@spx2-laptop:/home/spx2/eckel/scopeoperator# ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[05:17] <spx2> root@spx2-laptop:/home/spx2/eckel/scopeoperator#
[05:17] <kitche> Gilbert_4321: if you don't delete your partition
[05:17] <kitche> spx2: sudo
[05:17] <Zakir> FSRxc: I never "broke" linux too badly.... just made some big enough errors in xorg.conf setting up both dual-monitors, compiz, and XGL, that I had to go beg for help... at the point where I just followed howtos and didn't really understand what the steps actually did... :-)
[05:17] <spx2> kitche: already root
[05:17] <kitche> spx2: ah ok didn't see it :)
[05:17] <FSRxc> Ah
[05:17] <FSRxc> I made big errors
[05:17] <Gilbert_4321> will it delete my current OS or will it ask me during installing?
[05:17] <FSRxc> Tried to backtrack, and it broke things
[05:17] <spx2> kitche: what do i do ?
[05:18] <Gilbert_4321> will it ask or does it do it automaticly if i dont do anything i mean
[05:18] <Zakir> FSRxc... that's essentially what I did... I kept trying to fix it... but just continued to break it even more to the point where X was nowhere close to functional.
[05:18] <ReDnEcKbOy> Gilbert it'll ask... but you gotta be careful with the partitioning
[05:18] <sc4ttrbrain> Gilbert_4321: :it ll ask u :D
[05:18] <bimberi> AngryElf: the redirect doesn't get run as root with that syntax.  Run it in a root shell (sudo -i).
[05:18] <Gilbert_4321> kk ty
[05:18] <FSRxc> Zakir, did you reinstall?
[05:18] <kitche> spx2: there is another way to do it also by running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg make sure you backup the xorg.conf before you do that command to be on the safe side
[05:19] <Gilbert_4321> im still d loading it so i cant install yet lol
[05:19] <Gilbert_4321> ty for your help
[05:19] <FSRxc> Better yet, is there anything in linux like system restore?
[05:19] <spx2> kitche: that won't work either i tried that already
[05:19] <kitche> spx2: you still have the monitor book :)
[05:20] <Zakir> FSRxc... didn't end up needing to in the end...luckily my friend knew what he was doing and could essentially write the xorg and gdm conf files again off the top of his head.
[05:20] <spx2> kitche: no i dont
[05:20] <Vich> anyone here use effectv?
[05:20] <FSRxc> That's good.
[05:21] <Vich> because I'm having trouble using the latest
[05:21] <malt> malt@malt-server:~$ sudo apt-get update
[05:21] <malt> Password:
[05:21] <malt> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com] 
[05:21] <malt> is that down or is it just me ?
[05:22] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:22] <kitche> spx2: ok your kinda on your own now but I'll give you a start in your xorg.conf there is a Monitor section in that section there is HorizSync and VertRefresh if theri not thee you have to make them
[05:22] <kitche> malt: try a different mirror
[05:23] <FSRxc> Does it matter what shell I do the install from?
[05:23] <FSRxc> Right now I'm using xfce
[05:23] <kitche> FSRxc: install what beryl can run with xfce kde or gnome
[05:23] <FSRxc> I'd like to install beryl and use it with KDE
[05:24] <FSRxc> Should I be under KDE doing the install?
[05:24] <kitche> FSRxc: no it doesn't matter what you install from
[05:24] <FSRxc> ok
[05:24] <FSRxc> Thanks.
[05:24] <FSRxc> Already ran into a error, and I'm just trying to add the repository
[05:24] <FSRxc> "wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -  "
[05:25] <spx2> kitche: can you pastebin that section somewhere so i can add it ?
[05:25] <FSRxc> No such file or directory
[05:25] <kitche> spx2: why you don't have a monitor section already you should
[05:25] <james296> where is the default Ubuntu splash login screens located normally?
[05:26] <sc4ttrbrain> james296: :u mean usplash ? or gdm theme?
[05:26] <bimberi> james296: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[05:26] <spx2> kitche: let me see hang on
[05:26] <james296> thank you very much
[05:26] <sc4ttrbrain> lol
[05:27] <spx2> kitche: i have that section i have set the values to
[05:27] <spx2> kitche: 117         HorizSync       28-85
[05:27] <spx2> 118         VertRefresh     43-85
[05:27] <spx2> kitche: and still nothing
[05:27] <sc4ttrbrain> !pastebin
[05:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:28] <spx2> kitche: what do i have to make them to make my monitor go to 75 hz ? what are the most common values for refresh ratE ?
[05:28] <sc4ttrbrain> spx2: :well does it support  75 hz ?
[05:28] <lovloss> How do i find out how far my motherboard can upgrade in terms of cpu?
[05:28] <kitche> spx2: LCD is a tad different then LCD
[05:29] <nn> kitche: Eh?!
[05:29] <spx2> sc4ttrbrain: unfortunately only 60hz for the moment on all resolutions(i am on 1200x800)
[05:30] <spx2> nn: he makes no sense to me either
[05:30] <what_if> [took 3 hrs to find this]  there is a little known, undocumented bug in flash player7 for linux that causes no sound with certian hardware setups, the only fix it to use FP9 beta ;) pass it on
[05:30] <kitche> spx2: cRT*
[05:30] <lovloss> It's a Winfast 748K7AA... pretty sure its this http://www.spcomputers.net/winfast_skt_a_748k7aa.htm   maybe you guys can help me? :<
[05:30] <spx2> kitche: oh...
[05:30] <sc4ttrbrain> if it doesnt support 75 hz from the hardware then u can do nothing
[05:30] <PhibreOptix> what_if: Where can I get this FP9 Beta?
[05:30] <spx2> sc4ttrbrain: i am sure it does support,what do you think?
[05:30] <nn> bbl
[05:31] <sc4ttrbrain> let me look at ur xorg.conf
[05:31] <what_if> PhibreOptix: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:32] <PhibreOptix> what_if: Thanks
[05:32] <lovloss> If no one can help, does anyone know a room that might be able to tell me about upgrading CPU? :<
[05:32] <FSRxc> You know
[05:32] <FSRxc> I just thought about it
[05:32] <PhibreOptix> what_if: I've been looking for forever as to why my sound won't play xD
[05:33] <malt> how do i flush my dns in ubuntu?
[05:33] <what_if> PhibreOptix: make shure you uninstall your last flashplayer... old one was 2 part... plash 9 is one part
[05:34] <PhibreOptix> what_if: Alright thanks for the heads up
[05:34] <what_if> PhibreOptix: may confuse or crash browser if 1 & 1/2 flashs are installed lol
[05:34] <Mahdi> hi, could anybody plz help me with smth? i got a ext3 partition that i want all users to have rw access. My /etc/fstab is "/dev/hda2 /stuff       ext3    defaults,users        0       2", but only root can write there... what is wrong?
[05:34] <PhibreOptix> So, does anybody here know why my Ubuntu keeps freezing when I leave it idle over night?
[05:35] <craigbass1976> What went wrong today?  I couldn't get dansguardian working.  I think it was as problem with squid, not sure.  I ended up puttin ubuntu ce on my kid's box because it's all preconfigured
[05:35] <Mahdi> PhibreOptix: overheating? buggy video drivers?
[05:35] <PhibreOptix> Mahdi: not sure, but try giving it rw access to everybody chmod +rw
[05:35] <PhibreOptix> Nah it's not overheating, and the video drivers are fine
[05:35] <craigbass1976> PhibreOptix, Are you here in Maine with me?
[05:35] <craigbass1976> Stuff freezes here all the time...
[05:35] <PhibreOptix> craigbass1976: No...I'm in australia
[05:36] <ke4nt> Texas
[05:36] <craigbass1976> I haven't a clue then
[05:36] <PhibreOptix> It's weird because, if I leave it idle for the same amount of time through the day
[05:36] <craigbass1976> PhibreOptix, have you gone through the logs?  Dmesg and mesasges?
[05:36] <PhibreOptix> It never freezes
[05:36] <PhibreOptix> No, I don't really have much idea how to go through the logs
[05:37] <PhibreOptix> Bit of a linux newbie ;)
[05:37] <craigbass1976> PhibreOptix, that is weird... Wonder if it's got something to do with the date changing
[05:37] <itsmabus> Anybody know of a decent ircd for ubuntu that I can configure to only accept connections from localhost?
[05:37] <mmr> heya there
[05:37] <ThomBrown> guys, can someone help me, I just bought a samsung yp-u2j audio player, and i can't get ubuntu to eve NOTICE it, let alone mount it . . . i think it's FAT 32
[05:38] <mmr> for some reason synaptic's reload is stuck in file 9 (of 14)
[05:38] <james296> can someone help me with using the startup manager? I add a startup program called Glippers I installed and I typed it in to start at system startup, but after I close the startup manager and open it again, its gone
[05:38] <james296> why is this happening?
[05:38] <craigbass1976> PhibreOptix, sudo cat /var/log/messages and see if there's anything funny there.  Also, try leaving it at 11:50 PM and check on it at about 5-10 past midnight, see if it froze.
[05:38] <mmr> perhaps it is trying to contact a server which is down (to get this files) and seems to have a really long timeout (just guessing), what can i do to bypass this?
[05:39] <james296> so can someone help me out here?
[05:40] <L0cKd0wN> what's the command to restart a service via tty ?
[05:40] <craigbass1976> james296, what file is the startup manager writing to?
[05:40] <L0cKd0wN> under fedora i used to do: service vsftpd restart
[05:40] <james296> what do you mean lol
[05:40] <bretzel> hi all, ubuntu rules the linux world! too much wonderfull : just fresh-install onto a Toshiba Satellite A100 (centrino dual) --all working out of the box ...
[05:40] <L0cKd0wN> but that doesn't work here
[05:40] <james296> Im not sure
[05:40] <craigbass1976> /etc/init.d/whatever restart
[05:40] <bruenig> !offtopic | bretzel
[05:40] <ubotu> bretzel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:40] <james296> I just typed Glipper in the box to run it at startup
[05:40] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, you switching too?
[05:40] <L0cKd0wN> fedora doesn't support shfs
[05:41] <L0cKd0wN> (cleanly)
[05:41] <bruenig> james296, needs to be glipper, lowercase
[05:41] <L0cKd0wN> so yea
[05:41] <bretzel> bruenig:uh?
[05:41] <L0cKd0wN> i need support for it, and fuse-sshfs doesn't cut it
[05:41] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, is that the sh***y file system?
[05:41] <PhibreOptix> AFK
[05:41] <james296> still did the same thing
[05:41] <L0cKd0wN> no why do you say that?
[05:41] <L0cKd0wN> it's been running stable i mean... guess time will tell heh
[05:42] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, never heard of it, and was trying to figure out what the acronym stood for.
[05:42] <L0cKd0wN> oh lol
[05:42] <bruenig> !bot | bretzel
[05:42] <ubotu> bretzel: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:42] <L0cKd0wN> but yea, im learning all new stuff, been raised of fedora
[05:42] <mkoby> Hi all, I removed a hard drive from my system, how do I cause Dapper to not try to mount it?
[05:42] <L0cKd0wN> since fedora core 1
[05:42] <L0cKd0wN> but time to switch
[05:42] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, how are you liking ubuntu?
[05:42] <L0cKd0wN> :)
[05:42] <L0cKd0wN> well it's out of the box faster
[05:42] <genii> Is anyone having a weird half-blank screen during Feisty install?
[05:43] <L0cKd0wN> but it's hard to make a comparison, cuz im not actually sure what's installed and what's not, some stuff I still haven't gotten to work... like VNC
[05:43] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, notice the install time?  Course, not so much softrware out of the box, but there's a lot more in the apt repos I think than yum.
[05:43] <mmr> ok, i got the problem
[05:43] <L0cKd0wN> apt-get seems quicker than yum... but some stuff i woulda had up and running in a blast, and im STILL troubleshooting
[05:43] <james296> so, anymore help plz?
[05:43] <bimberi> geez, !offtopic was a bit harsh there
[05:43] <genii> Feisty = pre 7.04
[05:44] <L0cKd0wN> i still don't know what's going on with VNC
[05:44] <mmr> during the installation i configured my country, what suggested ubuntu to use close mirrors in sources.list
[05:44] <L0cKd0wN> i login and get a logo....
[05:44] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, where are you trying to vnc to and from?
[05:44] <bruenig> bimberi, funny contrast though, pretty much an admonishment for being laudatory about the OS
[05:44] <L0cKd0wN> windows xp -> ubuntu
[05:44] <mmr> everything ok, but... the server it suggested seems to be down
[05:44] <bimberi> mmr: it does that from your country selection
[05:45] <mmr> bimberi: yes and how am i supposed to change that?
[05:45] <mmr> bimberi: just editing the file?
[05:45] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, hmmm.  Nothing on the ubuntu forums?  I'm still new too (also started linux on FC1) and haven't run across vnc yet.
[05:45] <mmr> bimberi: shouldnt it, say, have a timeout and try a 'default server' or something?
[05:45] <james296> well?
[05:45] <mkoby> Hi all, I removed a hard drive from my system, how do I cause Dapper to not try to mount it?
[05:45] <L0cKd0wN> craigbass1976: yea i recognized ur nick from fedora... heh
[05:46] <kitche> mkoby: edit your /etc/fstab
[05:46] <craigbass1976> mkoby, should be somewhere in /etc/fstab
[05:46] <mmr> mkoby: /etc/fstab
[05:46] <bimberi> mmr: probably, you could file a bug on it
[05:46] <__david> hello, could anyone help me troubleshoot my Xorg with an rv350/9600XT radeon card?  I can't seem to get direct rendering to work
[05:46] <mkoby> Do I just delete the line(s) in fstab?
[05:46] <bimberi> mmr: yes, editing /etc/apt/sources.list would be the way
[05:46] <mmr> mkoby: comment them
[05:46] <L0cKd0wN> man /etc/fstab
[05:46] <jokoon> Hello again...
[05:46] <mmr> bimberi: right
[05:46] <mkoby> Ok, and then reboot?
[05:46] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, I'm seeing a few folks in here off and on that I recognize.
[05:46] <james296> someone plz tell me what to do...
[05:46] <__david> does anyone know if the rv350 is compatible with direct rendering?
[05:47] <mmr> mkoby: if you already removed the hd, why would you want to reboot?
[05:47] <Assasein84> i got a little question... im want to try out ubuntu but in the web theres various options were to download it from.. http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease
[05:47] <mkoby> I just commented the fstab line?
[05:47] <L0cKd0wN> craigbass1976: yea i've searched some of the forums, tried a few things still no luck
[05:47] <L0cKd0wN> craigbass1976: im sure i'll figure it out
[05:47] <L0cKd0wN> eventually...
[05:48] <Assasein84> i have to choose from which Os im downloadig the iso or were i want to install it?
[05:48] <Mahdi> hi, where can i get linux-image-2.6.17-7-generic for amd64? 2.6.17-10 seems to have an issue with my wireless card
[05:48] <PhibreOptix> Back
[05:48] <Assasein84> anyone?
[05:49] <Mahdi> PhibreOptix: u were right =P dumb error on that fstab stuff... missing a g+w chdmod =/ LOL
[05:49] <craigbass1976> james296, sorry, I didn't see your reply to me.  The files (if what we're talking about is making something start at boot) should be in the /etc/rc folders.  I don't knwo what glipper is, and I'm not sure exactly how this goes, but whichever folder it shows up in decides which runlevel the program runs in.
[05:49] <james296> ???
[05:49] <Mahdi> PhibreOptix: tkz ;)
[05:49] <jokoon> Just for info, I ask several times for a problem I just found is very common : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254 I just hope next time I'll be forwarded better than today. Sorry for the whine.
[05:50] <PhibreOptix> Mahdi: No problems
[05:50] <zeeble> heya.. which is the feisty fawn channel?
[05:50] <james296> ummmm, which rc folder?
[05:50] <james296> theres 8 of them
[05:50] <james296> lol
[05:50] <zeeble> meh. feisty fawn xfce then :)
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> zeeble: #ubuntu+1
[05:50] <zeeble> ty, tonyyarusso
[05:51] <L0cKd0wN> i can't find crap... lol
[05:51] <zeeble> tonyyarusso: ty for the apache2 help yesterday.. got my stuff running and connected to oracle and all
[05:51] <L0cKd0wN> where's the config for vsftpd hiding?
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> zeeble: Yay!
[05:51] <Assasein84> i ve a little question... i want to try out ubuntu, but in the webpage theres various options were to download it from.. http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease ... i have to choose from which Os im downloadig the iso or were do i want to install it?
[05:51] <craigbass1976> james296, I'm not sure.  You have to google for it.  Find out exactly how those folders work and go from there.  Weird that the GUI wouldn't do it though...
[05:51] <zeeble> what processor do you have in your machine, Assasein84?
[05:52] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, yes, things are moved around a bit...
[05:52] <Assasein84> core duo
[05:52] <james296> well, I have a confession
[05:52] <Assasein84> but a pentium in the one i want to install it
[05:52] <genii> core duo = i386 version
[05:52] <genii> (SMP kernel)
[05:52] <craigbass1976> james296, nothing really bad, hopefully...
[05:52] <james296> I installed the Orange-Theme using the installer it came with and it was SUPPOSED to be only for Dapper Drake I believe
[05:52] <james296> and Im using Edgy Eft
[05:52] <james296> and they said it isnt fully stable
[05:53] <james296> I just dont know how to remove that now
[05:53] <james296> lol
[05:53] <zeeble> Assasein84: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[05:53] <craigbass1976> james296, well, maybe it's not, or maybe it makes no difference.
[05:53] <PhibreOptix> Assasein84: http://shipit.ubuntu.com  get a free ubuntu cd sent to you ;)
[05:53] <craigbass1976> james296, how did you install it?
[05:53] <Mahdi> anybody knows any way to downgrade my kernel to 2.6.17-7? 2.6.17-10 prevents my wireless card from working =/
[05:53] <Assasein84> thanx ppl! :D
[05:53] <james296> just by using the installer
[05:53] <zeeble> Mahdi: your bootloader doesnt give you the option to boot with the older kernel?
[05:53] <craigbass1976> james296, you didn't type a command?  I think if you used the gui to install it, you can just uncheck the box.
[05:54] <holycow> oh challenge is spaceships
[05:54] <holycow> neato :)
[05:54] <james296> yeah I used the GUI
[05:54] <zeeble> Mahdi: when you boot up, it will ask you which kernel to use.. choose the one where your stuff works
[05:54] <james296> but theres no checkbox
[05:54] <james296> lol
[05:54] <Assasein84> PhibreOptix: im not in USA :s
[05:54] <craigbass1976> well, what's the package called?
[05:54] <craigbass1976> james296,
[05:54] <Mahdi> zeeble: i just had to reinstall edgy from the cd... the official release doesnt include 2.6.17-7. Only 2.6.17-10
[05:54] <holycow> wher eis the challenge hosted, blender.org or blenderartists.org?
[05:54] <Assasein84> but thanx
[05:54] <holycow> oh shit wrong channel
[05:54] <holycow> sorry
[05:54] <zeeble> Assasein84: download it. it will take a few days if you asked anyway
[05:54] <PhibreOptix> Assasein84: I'm in austrlia
[05:54] <zeeble> Mahdi: aw
[05:55] <Assasein84> mmm ok
[05:55] <PhibreOptix> Assasein84: And one got sent to me
[05:55] <zeeble> but you can download it faster :)
[05:55] <james296> what
[05:55] <Assasein84> thnx 4 da info
[05:55] <TJ_>  james296: is this orange theme you speak of by any chance orange-look?
[05:55] <bhudda> what is the name of the program or whatever that monitors system heat and controls fan speed?
[05:55] <james296> yes it is
[05:55] <PhibreOptix> But if you get the CD sent to you, you get some cool, free Ubuntu stickers with it ;)
[05:55] <Mahdi> zeeble: but from where? LOL ubuntu's archive does not include them anymore!
[05:56] <zeeble> Mahdi: download the kernel source and compile it?
[05:56] <TJ_> james296: if you didn't install it more than one time, than you should be able to go around, and restore all of the icon backups
[05:56] <james296> ok...how?
[05:56] <L0cKd0wN> craigbass1976: yea like im used to vsftpd config files residing in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf , here it's just /etc/vsftpd.conf, so when I listed the directories I automatically skipped over it and missed it heh
[05:57] <Mahdi> zeeble: but then i miss the whole point about using a std kernel =//
[05:57] <zeeble> Mahdi: wait
[05:57] <TJ_> james296: just recall the install, then go into the icon folders where it had said it was changing themes
[05:57] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, I've noticed (when trying to copy mail over) that .thunderbird doesn't exist either, it's .mozilla-thunderbird.  Installing things where the names are different is weird too
[05:58] <james296> its not the icons Im worried about
[05:58] <james296> its gettin the Startup manager working!
[05:58] <L0cKd0wN> craigbass1976: i hear ya, how long have you been an ubuntu user?
[05:58] <TJ_> jame296:...
[05:58] <zeeble> Mahdi: whatis the kernel package aclled?
[05:58] <james296> yes?
[05:58] <glick> hello
[05:58] <TJ_> james296: gdm is down for you? and if so... whats wrong?
[05:58] <PhibreOptix> Hi
[05:58] <Mahdi> zeeble: linux-image-2.6.17-7-generic
[05:58] <james296> I cant add anything to system startup...
[05:59] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, I tried it for a couple of weeks before the FIRST planned FC6 release date, couldn't deal with sudo, and ended up putting FC5 on.
[05:59] <BlackCheese> Praise Sweet baby Jesus
[05:59] <glick> hi i am not quite following the ubuntu boot process i.e. how it brings the system to different runlevels
[05:59] <craigbass1976> Then I put it on again about a month ago and am rather liking it.
[05:59] <glick> i gues after it reads the inittab runlevel
[05:59] <BlackCheese> I feel Jesus is behind Ubuntu..... Praise the lord can I have an amen!
[05:59] <glick> it goes into the rc#.d folder
[05:59] <L0cKd0wN> im certain you can enable root, yea the sudo bugs me too
[05:59] <glick> and runs the scripts there
[05:59] <glick> but what does the rcS.d folder to
[05:59] <zeeble> Mahdi: http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.17/ look there
[06:00] <s0nix> hi
[06:00] <TJ_> james296: odd, i've never ecountered anything like that, but when my comp was buggy, i had made a script that would launch all of my startup programs for me, thats the best i've got
[06:00] <glick> and also, i dont see any kill scripts for when you change into a lower runlevel
[06:00] <PhibreOptix> If using sudo in ubuntu bugs you so much
[06:00] <nick_> can anyone help me with a sound juicer problem
[06:00] <glick> can someone explain this to me?
[06:00] <PhibreOptix> Just run the root terminal instead
[06:00] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, I'd rather when I need to be root when running the printer config gui or something, that it would ask me for root's pass instead.  I trid configuring it todo that, but messed it up I guess.
[06:00] <Mahdi> zeeble: good =D but only udebs... will that cause me trouble?
[06:00] <s0nix> anyone can help me: i want to  make my TV-OUT (ATI) like a second screen with a different RESOLUTION.... at the moment... its a clone of the real screen.
[06:01] <james296> I'll just be lazy and fix the problem by reformatting and installing again lol
[06:01] <zeeble> Mahdi: dunno. you'll have to build the kernel. with kernel package prolly
[06:01] <PhibreOptix> Anyway guys
[06:01] <zeeble> Mahdi: or look around in the mirror for the package you want
[06:01] <PhibreOptix> I'm off
[06:01] <aWu>  #include <stdio.h>
[06:01] <aWu>  int main()
[06:01] <aWu>  {
[06:01] <aWu>  printf("hellow world!");
[06:01] <aWu>  return 0;
[06:01] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, I did set a root pass though, because it's easier sometimes to just be root for a while in the terminal
[06:01] <aWu>  }
[06:01] <zeeble> aWu: geez.. what was that? and it is "hello", not hellow
[06:01] <TJ_> james296: well thats no fun, be creative and invent some new ways to do it
[06:02] <craigbass1976> james296, we all do it starting out.  Eventually, you get mad and figure it out instead.
[06:02] <sc4ttrbrain> !pastebin | aWu
[06:02] <ubotu> aWu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <nick_> has anyone gotten sound juicer to rip mp3's
[06:02] <uffiole> i upgraded to edgy some weeks ago and now i run update manager the first time and it says not all upgrades can be performed, do distro upgrade
[06:02] <squisher> Hi, does anyone know how to get rid of the locale warnings in dapper?
[06:02] <Mahdi> zeeble: how did u fidn this mirror? i browsed through a lot of them and did not find all these versiones
[06:02] <zeeble> Mahdi: just googled
[06:03] <james296> I do admit it is startin to piss me off lol
[06:03] <squisher> I google for it, and find lots of posts with the same error message, but nowhere a solution
[06:03] <Mahdi> zeeble: damn... i've been googling for the last 2 hours and found nothing! LOL
[06:03] <zeeble> Mahdi: rofl.
[06:03] <craigbass1976> Hey, can anyone tell me how, with the slip of a mouse, I ended up detaching the ubuntu chat from the rest of my XCHAT window?  It is in a window all by itself now.
[06:03] <bimberi> nick_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[06:03] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[06:03] <L0cKd0wN> neat trick craigbass1976 :P
[06:03] <zeeble> Mahdi: all i put was 2.6.17-7 .deb ubuntu in google, and this was a "index of/" link so went in
[06:04] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, only if I can do it again...
[06:04] <L0cKd0wN> haha
[06:04] <Mahdi> zeeble: tkz a lot =P i'm already downloading and backuping it :)
[06:04] <nof> omg wireless help needed d-link dwl-510, isn't atheros just supposed to work =(
[06:04] <Mahdi> zeeble: i tried even with the exact name!
[06:04] <zeeble> Mahdi: hm, ok. good luck with the install then
[06:04] <Mahdi> zeeble: tkz :)
[06:05] <Mahdi> time to reboot
[06:05] <Mahdi> tkz zeeble
[06:05] <Mahdi> cya
[06:05] <cjjtcha> You don't really need to set a root password, just type `sudo bash`. Same thing
[06:06] <GpartedCreator> Hi
[06:06] <nof> getting a error for wireless reqest "set encode" (8B2A) : invalid argument "s:"
[06:06] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, oh, there's a detach tab commandin the Xchat menu.  There must be a mouse/keyboard shortcut that does the same thing.  I think you have to use your elbow though...
[06:07] <bimberi> cjjtcha: 'sudo -i' is preferable (sets up the environment)
[06:07] <squisher_> Hi, I was just here a moment ago but my computer crashed. Did anyone by chance answer about the locale warnings in dapper? I searched the net and faq to no avail
[06:07] <L0cKd0wN> craigbass1976: i don't have the luxury of a desktop right now.... damn VNC! *shakes fist*
[06:07] <cjjtcha> bimberi: Thanks, even better. I didn't know that
[06:07] <L0cKd0wN> and im horrible
[06:07] <bimberi> cjjtcha: np :)
[06:07] <L0cKd0wN> at elbow commands
[06:07] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[06:08] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, oh, I didn't realize you weren't even in Ubuntu yet.
[06:08] <L0cKd0wN> ssh man
[06:08] <L0cKd0wN> that's all i gots
[06:08] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[06:08] <nof> any wireless ninja's around??
[06:08] <L0cKd0wN> i don't really need a desktop
[06:08] <L0cKd0wN> like gui, cuz im pretty efficient w/ the tty
[06:09] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, although it's sometimes nice to use the GUI...
[06:10] <L0cKd0wN> it's on a 600mhz celeron, performs like a champ
[06:10] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, I just put dapper on a similar box for my son today.   Did you see http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-December/053266.html?
[06:11] <fede23> Hello, anyone wanna help me install ubuntu 6.10 ?
[06:11] <L0cKd0wN> iptables....
[06:11] <L0cKd0wN> why didn't i think of that
[06:11] <L0cKd0wN> brb!
[06:11] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, could be windows security stuff stopping things.  I don't think you even have iptables
[06:12] <fede23> How can I install ubuntu 6.10 in dual boot without erasing my entire hdd ???
[06:12] <L0cKd0wN> craigbass1976: looks like security is handled a bit differently under ubuntu, iptables is empty :S
[06:13] <co_maniez> hy
[06:13] <dabaR> fede23: ask the installation program to resize its partition. _Back_ up data.
[06:13] <L0cKd0wN> gonna try: " iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 5900:5905 -j ACCEPT "
[06:14] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, do you even have iptables?  Where'd you find it?
[06:15] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, I'm behind a Cent firewall, so I've not been worried about Ubuntu security yet.
[06:15] <L0cKd0wN> iptables: /sbin/iptables /lib/iptables /usr/share/man/man8/iptables.8.gz
[06:16] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, and the vnc server is actually running on Ubuntu box?
[06:17] <dabaR> craigbass1976: it is installed by default
[06:17] <L0cKd0wN> i think Xvnc is
[06:17] <fede23> dabaR I've sent you an im, so we can chat better.
[06:17] <L0cKd0wN> vncserver i had to obtain
[06:17] <L0cKd0wN> maybe there's a conflict.....
[06:17] <L0cKd0wN> Xrealvnc *
[06:17] <dabaR> fede23: just talk here
[06:17] <craigbass1976> dabaR, Ahh, I didn't know that.  I thought ubuntu didn't have iptables by default.
[06:17] <dabaR> L0cKd0wN: and your iptables should adapt to the enabled server
[06:17] <disant> hi
[06:17] <co_maniez> hy
[06:18] <disant> anyone had problems setting up ethernet card using tulip to full-duplex/100?
[06:18] <disant> LNE100TX
[06:18] <MSTK> hey all
[06:18] <ColonelZarkawi> greetings
[06:19] <MSTK> does anyone know if there are any way to watch Windows Media Player videos on Ubuntu?
[06:19] <MSTK> no workaround or anything?
[06:19] <disant> MSTK, mplayer
[06:19] <dabaR> MSTK: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:19] <Madpilot> MSTK, most wmv vids should work
[06:19] <MSTK> well, I can play wmv's
[06:19] <MSTK> but the ones embedded in firefox
[06:19] <MSTK> and webpages
[06:19] <MSTK> it doesn't seem to be supported
[06:19] <fede23> ok dabaR, I'm in the window where it asks me to select my hard drive.
[06:19] <fede23> I have 2 hdd on raid 0, and it gives me the option to select one of them.
[06:20] <L0cKd0wN> yea there's definitely two vnc programs running
[06:20] <L0cKd0wN> Xvnc and vncserver
[06:20] <L0cKd0wN> i only see one config though, this is wild
[06:20] <disant> mozilla-mplayer
[06:20] <dabaR> fede23: hehe, make sure you choose the right option to resize the drive, and did you _back_ up your data?
[06:20] <MSTK> disant - thanks, I'll check it out
[06:20] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, what if you shut one off?
[06:20] <disant> enjoy
[06:20] <blargityblarg> heyy anyone here?
[06:21] <disant> no
[06:21] <zeeble> no
[06:21] <MSTK> no
[06:21] <blargityblarg> awesome
[06:21] <disant> everyone's out for lunch
[06:21] <blargityblarg> um
[06:21] <disant> I'm watching the sheeps
[06:21] <MSTK> actually we are all just computer programs
[06:21] <MSTK> programed with automatic responses
[06:21] <MSTK> we don't actually exist
[06:21] <blargityblarg> does anyone not out to lunch feel like helping me with an opengl problem?
[06:21] <disant> ... when they come back.. I'll go for lunch
[06:21] <MSTK> in fact nobody truly exists.
[06:21] <MSTK> it's all a virtual reality program
[06:21] <dabaR> MSTK: programs can spell programmed...
[06:21] <blargityblarg> ok
[06:21] <blargityblarg> well
[06:21] <L0cKd0wN> yea im trying
[06:21] <blargityblarg> for my purposes
[06:21] <diskus> lunch?
[06:21] <blargityblarg> it will do
[06:21] <zeeble> just go ahead and ask, blargityblarg
[06:21] <L0cKd0wN> i need to figure out what's running tho
[06:21] <blargityblarg> ok
[06:22] <fede23> what do you mean by "_back_ up" ? is it a command ?
[06:22] <blargityblarg> im just really confused on which way to go with nvidia drivers i read so much conflicting info
[06:22] <blargityblarg> im on the latest mepis
[06:22] <blargityblarg> trying to get opengl to work
[06:22] <blargityblarg> quake3 runs
[06:22] <blargityblarg> but extremely slowly
[06:22] <disant> burepe, kombanwa
[06:22] <dabaR> fede23: I mean, did you save your important files to an external hd, or a dvd?
[06:22] <Madpilot> !enter | blargityblarg
[06:22] <ubotu> blargityblarg: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:22] <blargityblarg> ok
[06:23] <Madpilot> blargityblarg, also, if you're on Mepis, why are you in #ubuntu?
[06:23] <blargityblarg> because
[06:23] <blargityblarg> noone is talking in there
[06:23] <blargityblarg> and its the next closest thing i suppose
[06:23] <dabaR> is mepis based on Ubuntu?
[06:23] <blargityblarg> yes
[06:23] <sc4ttrbrain> then switch to us first :D
[06:23] <dabaR> haha
[06:23] <blargityblarg> the newest mepis is based on ubuntu
[06:23] <Madpilot> blargityblarg, ATI or Nvidia card?
[06:23] <blargityblarg> i just made the switch from ubuntu to mepis
[06:23] <blargityblarg> nvidia
[06:23] <Madpilot> !nvidia | blargityblarg
[06:23] <ubotu> blargityblarg: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <blargityblarg> ok ok
[06:24] <diskus> what's wrong with ubuntu so that you wanted to install mepis?
[06:24] <fede23> not all of them, but is that the only way to install ubuntu 6.10 ???
[06:24] <fede23> erasing everything and installing from scratch ?
[06:24] <blargityblarg> for the hell of it
[06:24] <L0cKd0wN> craigbass1976: take a look please, this is as far as the login goes: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a179/ArcTuRuX/screen.jpg
[06:24] <L0cKd0wN> just so you know what im talkin bout ;)
[06:25] <dabaR> blargityblarg: http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Hardware#NVIDIA
[06:25] <blargityblarg> ty
[06:25] <dabaR> blargityblarg: heh.
[06:25] <charlie5> hi again folks ... just discussing 'beryl' desktop manager with a friend ... has anyone tried this with ubuntu ? i think its in 'unstable'
[06:26] <Arigato> where are apache log files stored?
[06:26] <diskus> ofcourse beryl is unstable
[06:26] <diskus> and XGL in overall
[06:26] <dabaR> !beryl | charlie5
[06:26] <ubotu> charlie5: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:26] <PhibreOptix> Hi guys, does anybody know of a visual form designer for coding similar to visual basic's one that runs on Ubuntu?
[06:26] <bimberi> Arigato: /var/log/apache (iirc)
[06:26] <dabaR> PhibreOptix: did you try monodevelop?
[06:26] <L0cKd0wN> ur httpd.conf might tell you
[06:26] <L0cKd0wN> ;)
[06:27] <genii> arigato /var/log/apache2/access.lo /var/log/apache2/error.log
[06:27] <PhibreOptix> dabaR: No I didn't, so thank you
[06:27] <genii> access.log
[06:27] <charlie5> dabaR: thank you ... i ddn't think to try uboto :
[06:27] <uMISTA> how do i add new users, the command way?
[06:27] <disant> beryl? nah.. sticking to fluxbox
[06:27] <bimberi> uMISTA: sudo adduser
[06:28] <diskus> well fluxbox is not 3d multimedia :P
[06:28] <disant> sudo useradd
[06:28] <disant> diskus, that's why it rox :)
[06:28] <craigbass1976> L0cKd0wN, I don't knwo what to tell you.
[06:28] <diskus> disant: it's not fun, but otherwise it's better than this 3D desktop
[06:29] <dabaR> ya, its like, what's this talk about beryl...as if I need an app slowing down my computer...
[06:29] <diskus> it's not that slow if it's supported by hardware
[06:29] <kuto> i get clock skew problem when compiling with anjuta
[06:29] <diskus> actualy it wasn't slow at all on my computer when I last tried it
[06:29] <dom> hi, I just installed the "network-manager-gnome" as per the wifi WPAHowTo on the ubuntu site, and it's not giving me any options to manage the wireless
[06:30] <dom> when I left-click on it, it just shows that "wired network" is selected
[06:30] <disant> I can write you a small C program that will effectively assist you in utilizing about 98% of your system resources :)
[06:30] <zeeble> disant: haha
[06:30] <dom> or greyed-out if I unplug the ethernet cable
[06:30] <dom> do I have to do something to get it to recongize the wireless?
[06:30] <disant> dom: a driver
[06:30] <dom> I'm currently connecting via the neighbour's crappy un-protected network
[06:31] <zeeble> :p
[06:31] <disant> dom, what type of card is it?
[06:31] <dom> lspci says it's a Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG MiniPCI Adapter rev 05
[06:31] <disant> man.. just got iptables up and running on my wireless router.. sweet thing
[06:32] <disant> dloaded fwbuilder to get my rules just the way I want them.. push it out.. voila
[06:32] <disant> dom: and what driver are you using?
[06:33] <dom> mmm ipw2200
[06:34] <disant> dom: also.. are you sure that your neighbour has a crappy unprotected network and not a access-point simulator, luring dumbasses like yourself, sniffing your packets, having more fun then a barrel of monkeys?
[06:34] <dom> this is my point
[06:34] <NoonInSF> PowerPC user, no luck in the forums and little luck in the IRC with my problem.  Computer refuses to suspend or hibernate. Can anyone point me in the direction of a webpage or something?
[06:34] <dom> I don't want to be connecting to random unprotected netowkrs
[06:35] <fede23> I'm back
[06:35] <disant> fede23, at last
[06:35] <cmt^^> How do I change default program for playing video?
[06:35] <fede23> please help me disant, I can't set up my raid 0 installation without deleting my entire hard disk.
[06:36] <glick> heh i still run dapper on the desktop
[06:36] <glick> anyone here still runnin dapper?
[06:36] <Geoffrey2> at times I wish I still was....
[06:36] <glick> fiesty givin you problems?
[06:37] <Geoffrey2> isn't feisty the first 2007 release?
[06:37] <silentace> sorry to be a newb... but is ubuntu a good candidate for a linux newb?
[06:37] <rapid_> silentace, sure
[06:37] <glick> i mean edgy
[06:37] <juancarlos> silentace, yes.
[06:38] <glick> silentace, you have unix experience at all?
[06:38] <Geoffrey2> I've got a small list of problems I'm trying to fix....most of them more annoyances than anything else
[06:38] <glick> its alot different if your used to solaris or something
[06:38] <silentace> i didn't see anything on the main ubuntu site... is there a good place to go to get some modules (may be called something else) to add to my disc image?
[06:38] <VerdRousseau> anyone here have a Dell Truemobile 1180
[06:38] <silentace> glick: no
[06:39] <glick> silentace, install the main disk then you can download whatever else you need/want
[06:39] <silentace> windows guru and thats it... trying to expand my knowledge on various OSs
[06:39] <Ash-Fox> I'd like to set the order of three soundcards. The method I've found requires that I set in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, options module-name index=<number for sound device>, unfortunately. I have two soundcards that use the same module (snd_usb_audio), unfortunately as they are USB devices, I can plug them into any port -- so I can't really rely on which port they're plugged into. "asoundconf list" does however name one "Headset" and the other 
[06:39] <silentace> so is the image from there site a live disc or no?
[06:39] <glick> im so ignorant on a windows machine
[06:39] <glick> im like where do i click
[06:39] <glick> what do i do
[06:39] <silentace> with the iso i download from ubuntu is that an install disc or a live linux distro?
[06:40] <glick> been using unix and linux regularly for like 7 years
[06:40] <glick> heh
[06:40] <Ash-Fox> silentace, both.
[06:40] <silentace> thanks ash
[06:40] <glick> and windows only in labs n stuff for papers what not
[06:40] <SurfnKid> glick, i think im very ignorant now too, i feel weird when i boot to xp
[06:40] <silentace> i am a heavy gamer and thats the only reason i stay away from mac/linux
[06:40] <glick> MS word is the depth of my windows knowledge
[06:40] <SurfnKid> i only boot to XP for gaming and hd space file management, nothin else
[06:41] <silentace> i know there is a lot of experimental things for gaming with windows games on linux but nothing solid enough to make me switch cold turkey
[06:41] <glick> yeah
[06:41] <SurfnKid> I find copyrights and IP has gotten way to dumb to be worrying about fines
[06:41] <Ash-Fox> silentace, meh, games like WoW actually perform better under Wine running on Linux in my experience, unfortunately getting it working is another story.
[06:41] <silentace> surfnkid... makes since
[06:41] <bhudda> I can't get my SATA drives to mount...
[06:41] <glick> i havent played games in a long time
[06:41] <silentace> maybe i should think about that
[06:41] <glick> its too bad, linux wold make a fine game platform
[06:41] <glick> loki proved that
[06:41] <silentace> so is installing ubuntu on a sata going to be a problem
[06:41] <glick> but companies just wont do it
[06:41] <GigaClon> what does firefox usally take up in memory, its  taking up 80MB here
[06:42] <GigaClon> and its being slow
[06:42] <dope> depends on how long it's been running
[06:42] <glick> theres just too many damn distros each doing there own thing, so their like "well which distro should we develop for?"
[06:42] <glick> so i can kind of understand why they generally wont
[06:42] <silentace> gigaclon: 120meg
[06:42] <kbrosnan> GigaClon: that is fairly normal usage
[06:42] <dope> firefox has a really bad memory leak
[06:42] <silentace> i got a few extensions though
[06:42] <SurfnKid> dope, oh?
[06:42] <dope> you ain't heard?
[06:42] <SurfnKid> FF2?
[06:42] <glick> dope, firefox goes down more often then a 2 dollar assistant crack hoe
[06:42] <Fede23b> ok, now I'm ready.
[06:42] <Ash-Fox> glick, develop for one, such as redhat. the other distros will find ways to get the game working. It's been that way with commercial software, and worked fine.
[06:43] <dope> pretty sure ff2 has it too
[06:43] <silentace> anyone ever messed around with slax?
[06:43] <glick> its really frustrating
[06:43] <kbrosnan> dope, GigaClon etc.
[06:43] <rapid_> silentace, what about it?
[06:43] <kbrosnan> dope, GigaClon etc. http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/memusage.html
[06:43] <glick> brb laundry drp off
[06:43] <Geoffrey2> glick, and then there's the FOSS movement, which probably leaves some wondering how many would actually shell out money for a game on Linux if they spent the time porting it
[06:43] <SurfnKid> glick, hehe
[06:43] <Ash-Fox> glick, I doubt it has anything todo with the fragmentation of linux distros, but more of the fact that developing for such a niche user base is not going to bring much of a profit.
[06:43] <silentace> just wondering (im so clueless on this) whats the difference? i know there is different cores and all
[06:43] <SurfnKid> !slax
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <cmt^^> Anyone know how to change default players in ubuntu edgy?
[06:44] <SurfnKid> whats slax
[06:44] <SurfnKid> slackware?
[06:44] <glick> silentace, slax is a sweet live distro
[06:44] <SurfnKid> oh
[06:44] <krustofski> slack live cd
[06:44] <rapid_> SurfnKid, its based on slackware.
[06:44] <silentace> yeah
[06:44] <_Rebecca> Anyone know how I would install a mozilla rdf file?
[06:44] <SurfnKid> i see
[06:44] <krustofski> nothing special
[06:44] <krustofski> you can use it to make your own distro too
[06:44] <glick> for rescue, or when you just wanna boot into a linux machine and all you have is your grandmothers win98 machine
[06:44] <leandro-1> hello
[06:44] <silentace> so any thoughts on whether installing ubuntu on a sata partition will be a bitch or not?
[06:44] <disant> :) sometimes I just enjoy sitting back and looking at this chat...
[06:44] <leandro-1> a program to synchronization mpx220 to ubuntu edgy?
[06:45] <disant> reminded me of my colege days when we used to get stoned in my friend's basement
[06:45] <silentace> does ubuntu deal with dual booting as well? or will i have to find that information elsewhere
[06:45] <zeeble> _Rebecca: the RDF file comesalone, or with its .js file as well?
[06:45] <disant> silentace, it'll allow you to configure dualbut
[06:45] <rapid_> disant: i'm still stuck in those days
[06:45] <PhibreOptix> silentace: Yea, when you goto install it it resizes your other partitions so you can dualboot easily
[06:45] <SurfnKid> silentace, dualboot is what ive got, runs 100%
[06:45] <sartan> Okay so... I'm a little surprised there isn't a default iptables firewall on hoary..
[06:45] <_Rebecca> zeeble it comes with the .js as well
[06:45] <sartan> is there a package to provide one or am i going to have to write my friend some scripts myself
[06:45] <dabaR> _Rebecca: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_Description_Framework
[06:45] <disant> i dont get dualbooting though
[06:46] <disant> if you want to play w/OS.. just get vmware.. its free
[06:46] <krustofski> what dont you get?
[06:46] <_Rebecca> dabaR thanks for the link
[06:46] <silentace> so if right now my patitions cover all the space on my drive it will take some away from it for me?
[06:46] <PhibreOptix> disant: VMware is slow as hell with larger applications
[06:46] <krustofski> vmware requires decent specs
[06:46] <disant> PhibreOptix, "play"
[06:46] <leandro-1> hi, my english suck but somebody knows a program to mpx220 sinchronization to ubuntu edgy?
[06:46] <silentace> what is not to get about dual booting? i want to learn linux but i still need windows for games and such
[06:47] <Geoffrey2> ok, lesse...biggest bug, after hours of running the computer under linux, I will hit a point where nothing wants to load up...any icon I click on starts the little wait icon spinning and a name appears in the task bar, then it dissapears completely...session manager won't come up...I can't even get the log off/shut down menu to come up...only way to fix is to hold the power button down until the computer shuts off
[06:47] <krustofski> linux is overrated
[06:47] <PhibreOptix> silentace: Dual booting is the way to go IMO
[06:47] <disant> silentace, that was a personal thing.. sorry :)
[06:47] <krustofski> stick with windows
[06:47] <silentace> no need for appologies
[06:47] <rapid_> krustofski, get the hell out of here
[06:47] <PhibreOptix> krustofski: Then why are you here? In an ubuntu chat
[06:47] <silentace> i am horrible at spelling by the way =)
[06:47] <krustofski> because i use ubuntu?
[06:48] <MSTK> ROFL
[06:48] <_Rebecca> zeeble: actually it just comes with the .rdf
[06:48] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Firstly, start programs from the terminal to see if they print output.
[06:48] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, when that's happening, I can't even bring up the terminal window
[06:48] <silentace> my basic reason for wanting to learn some sort of windows is to eventually learn how to maintain my own webserver, which i think would be easier if i had some type of linux experiance on my resume
[06:48] <disant> f*&^*&^*&6
[06:48] <disant> stupid tulip driver
[06:49] <zeeble> _Rebecca: then you have to create the file that will allow Mozilla to open the rdf
[06:49] <h00t> hello can some pls tell me how can i install non-free codecs fro use w/ mplayer (wanna play XM radio stream)
[06:49] <PhibreOptix> Did everybody here about the new flash player 9 for Linux?
[06:49] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Secondly, never hold the power button to restart Linux! You should always restart it cleanly to avoid filesystem corruption: press alt+sysrq+s, alt+sysrq+u, alt+sysrq+b to sync the filesystems, unmount them, and reboot (respectively)
[06:49] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Sysrq is the print screen key.
[06:49] <hap0> hello
[06:49] <_Rebecca> zeeble: ok, not sure how to do that, but I'll do some googling. thanks
[06:49] <h00t> PhibreOptix, just installed it
[06:50] <MSTK> arrenlex - I'm scared now.  I've held down the power button in the past to do a hard reboot.  is there any way to undo the damage?
[06:50] <PhibreOptix> h00t: Does it play sound properly this time around?
[06:50] <h00t> here's a link ... yes
[06:50] <bblargitylarg> ok i got the driver installed on mepis but how do i enable opengl? i try to run quake3 but it runs at just a few frames per second
[06:50] <h00t> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:50] <hap0> anyone have any tips on recovering sound after switching to KDE?
[06:50] <h00t> just drop it into /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[06:50] <rapid_> hap0: open your mixer and turn the volume up
[06:51] <zeeble> _Rebecca: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Install.rdf
[06:51] <h00t> can anyone help me w/ that non free codecs
[06:51] <hap0> rapid: Thanks I've checked that., But I'll check it again...
[06:51] <_Rebecca> zeeble: Thank you
[06:51] <Geoffrey2> file system corruption...been there, done that.......
[06:52] <PhibreOptix> h00t: try this http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:52] <arrenlex> MSTK: Don't worry, ext3 is really hard to corrupt, and fsck will catch it... but it's better to reboot cleanly, of course. :)
[06:52] <hap0> rapid: No dice. Anyone else have any ideas? I've been through a fair number of searches via google.
[06:52] <h00t> yeah .. i know about that ... but do you know why aren't they in regular depository
[06:52] <GigaClon> my firefox is scrolling very slowly
[06:53] <buitenzorg812_> i always fail using free ubuntu?
[06:53] <arrenlex> MSTK: Your computer will check the filesystems and fix any errors on boot.
[06:53] <buitenzorg812_> how come?
[06:53] <MSTK> ah, okay.  thanks
[06:53] <bblargitylarg> anyone on the opengl in mepis?
[06:53] <MSTK> free ubuntu?  as opposed to a paid version?
[06:53] <Fede23b> if I would die right now, I would ask god: WHY IS LINUX SO FRICKING HARD TO INSTALL/USE !?!?!?!?!?
[06:53] <PhibreOptix> h00t:  I think they aren't in regular depositary because they are propitary, but I may be wrong
[06:53] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: You can also use alt+sysrq+k to kill all processes that are running under you. See if that helps.
[06:53] <buitenzorg812_> sorry...i mean easyubuntu
[06:54] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: If it DOES help, chances are something you're running is leaking memory badly.
[06:54] <MSTK> Fede23b - actually, I found that Ubuntu is by far easier to install than Windows is
[06:54] <spx2> where is the repository list file ?
[06:54] <PhibreOptix> h00t: Try adding the universe and multiverse repositeries
[06:54] <zeeble> spx2: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:54] <bblargitylarg> mepis took 30 mins to install fully with like two clicks it was amazing
[06:54] <spx2> zeeble: thx
[06:54] <arrenlex> Fede23b: Because Windows is installed by hardware manufacturers, so you don't have to. :)
[06:54] <h00t> ahhhh ... exactly .. my bad
[06:54] <bblargitylarg> pleeeeeeeeeease help with opengl on mepis
[06:54] <hap0> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:54] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, ok, what do the s, u, and b commands do?
[06:55] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: I told you! Please read my sentences the whole way through. xD
[06:55] <arrenlex> (10:49:35 PM) arrenlex: Geoffrey2: Secondly, never hold the power button to restart Linux! You should always restart it cleanly to avoid filesystem corruption: press alt+sysrq+s, alt+sysrq+u, alt+sysrq+b to sync the filesystems, unmount them, and reboot (respectively)
[06:55] <buitenzorg812_> MSTK - i agree with you...
[06:56] <Geoffrey2> ah, sorry, sync, unmount, boot...got it
[06:56] <MSTK> Hi all, sorry for sounding naive, but I'm trying to download a plug-in for firefox (namely, mplayer).  I've downloaded the source file and it's an archive with a folder "mplayerplug-in".  Now I'm guessing that I am supposed to just extract this folder to the plugins folder?  Is that that direct, or do I have to do something in between with the terminal?
[06:56] <dom> ugh, apparently busting into the old wpa_supplicant.conf file by hand was the answer to connecting... I'd still like to know why the gnome network manager doesn't so much as acknowledge the wireless card.  aren't intel wireless chips supposed to be okay in general?
[06:56] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: To be fair you should probably run RSEIUB rather than just SUB, to put the keyboard in raw mode, sync the filesystems, send all processes the TERM signal, then KILL all processes that haven't yet terminated, unmount your filesystems, and then reboot. But that takes too long.
[06:56] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: (A mnemonic to remember that is Raising Skinny Elephants is Utterly Boring)
[06:56] <bblargitylarg> opengl....meppis
[06:57] <Geoffrey2> I don't ever wanna hear anyone in here poke fun of Ctrl-Alt-Del then :)
[06:57] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: All things windows are poked fun at here. :)
[06:57] <bimberi> MSTK: Just install it using synaptic - mozilla-mplayer  (multiverse repository)
[06:57] <spx2> WHAT IS YOUR OPPINION ON BERYL ?
[06:57] <MSTK> Beryl is shiny
[06:57] <MSTK> totally pointless, but awesome
[06:57] <rapid_> its a emerald
[06:57] <hap0> Beryl is fun.
[06:57] <sc4ttrbrain> !offtopic
[06:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:58] <bblargitylarg> opengl...mepis pleeeeeeeeease how to enable it
[06:58] <arrenlex> spx2: MY OPINION OF BERYL IS THAT IT IS FANCY. MY OPINION OF YOU IS THAT YOU SHOULD STOP YELLING AT US.
[06:58] <_Rebecca> spx2 Beryl is buggy
[06:58] <MSTK> bimbery - didn't think to look for a mozilla plugin in the packages manager.  thanks.
[06:58] <spx2> _Rebecca: really ?
[06:58] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, oh, that's a given...but Windows only required one three finger salute, usually preceded, followed, or both, by a one finger salute
[06:58] <spx2> arrenlex: do you think its a good substitute for gnome or kde ?
[06:58] <_Rebecca> spx2: Yes, in my experience
[06:58] <MSTK> i have to get used to the idea that all of my programs aren't scattered around the internet -- they're all organized in one handy place
[06:58] <Phrozen_One_> if DRI is disabled on an ATi card is that why all the fps are so terrible?
[06:58] <MSTK> and downloadable there
[06:58] <dabaR> !mozilla-mplayer
[06:58] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[06:59] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, ok, lesse....a large memory leak could be causing the problems I described?
[06:59] <hap0> Anyone else have any ideas on how to get sound working with KDE/Ubuntu???
[06:59] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: ctrl+alt+del also works to restart your computer if you're not running X... but usually your GUI catch that combination and assign it to something else.
[06:59] <spx2> foshizzle ma nizzle BERYL IS GOOD OR NOT !!!!!!!!! ??????????/
[06:59] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: A lot of things could be causing the problems you've described. Does it slow down gradually or does it suddenly just stop working?
[06:59] <rapid_> spx2: double gizzle to the pizzle, install it and find out, bitch
[07:00] <hap0> In X ctl-alt-backspace will restart WindowMgr.
[07:00] <sc4ttrbrain> spx2: :try it dude! and STOP yelling !!
[07:00] <somerville32> !caps| spx2
[07:00] <ubotu> spx2: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:00] <spx2> sorry for yelling ma niggaz
[07:00] <arrenlex> spx2: Berizzle is lyk the bling bling minus the ching ching dawg.
[07:00] <dabaR> you guys are all fresh
[07:00] <somerville32> !language | spx2
[07:00] <ubotu> spx2: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:00] <zarul> cab  u guys stop with the CAPS?
[07:00] <zarul> *can
[07:00] <spx2> SOOOOORRRRRYYYYYYYYY NIIGAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZ :D please don't ban me im just joking
[07:00] <krustofski> family friendly
[07:01] <somerville32> !ops
[07:01] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[07:01] <arrenlex> hap0: Actually, in X, ctrl+alt+backspace will restart X.
[07:01] <sc4ttrbrain> please sum1 ban spx2 !
[07:01] <hap0> I give up.
[07:01] <Geoffrey2> shouldn't most children be in bed by now?
[07:01] <krustofski> no!
[07:01] <MSTK> bimberi - for future reference, what if I stumble upon a plug-in that is not available in the synaptics?
[07:01] <Hobbsee> !language
[07:01] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Ubuntu has people from all timezones.
[07:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:01] <Madpilot> Geoffrey2, immaturity is not linked to calendar age...
[07:01] <Hobbsee> to everyone else
[07:01] <spx2> sorry
[07:01] <krustofski> yay!
[07:01] <dabaR> spx2: last warning...
[07:02] <Geoffrey2> Madpilot, sadly......
[07:02] <sc4ttrbrain> spx2: :GO away !
[07:02] <krustofski> dont mind those elitist tards spx2
[07:02] <PhibreOptix> So, who here has played tux racer?
[07:02] <dabaR> sc4ttrbrain: chill out
[07:02] <krustofski> you seem like a nice fella
[07:02] <spx2> i promise it wont happen again
[07:02] <rapid_> Geoffrey2, its 5pm where I am. so no
[07:02] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Sorry, did you answer that? I asked if it slows down gradually or not?
[07:02] <dabaR> spx2: ok, move on
[07:02] <arrenlex> Yessir Mr. Op, sir.
[07:03] <PhibreOptix> How do you do that? I'm new to irc aswell xD
[07:03] <mypapit> w00f w00f
[07:03] <somerville32> arrenlex, Hobbsee is a Mam.
[07:03] <krustofski> lies
[07:03] <krustofski> no women on irc
[07:03] <arrenlex> somerville32: But that contradicts one of the basic tenents of IRC: the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents.
[07:04] <arrenlex> It cannot be!
[07:04] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, ok, I'm not really sure, what will happen is that I'll come back having left the computer running for several hours and find it in this state....
[07:04] <krustofski> unless of course.. post op trannys
[07:04] <Hobbsee> way cool, i'll be an FBI agent then.
[07:04] <Madpilot> arrenlex, krustofski - #ubuntu-offtopic, if you really must continue this conversation...
[07:04] <krustofski> lol
[07:05] <krustofski> how dare you... Hobbsee true identity matters.. i vote post op tranny
[07:05] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Anything unusual about your setup? Are you running any daemons that aren't in the default install?
[07:05] <dabaR> krustofski: stop it already, it is not related, I can not catch the questions
[07:05] <krustofski> pre op?
[07:06] <krustofski> so just a cross dresser?
[07:06] <dabaR> bye
[07:06] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, none that I'm aware of....I have the BOINC client running in the background, not sure if that is considered a daemon....
[07:06] <somerville32> krustofski, Thats enough. You're getting offencive now.
[07:06] <arrenlex> krustofski: Are you serious? Isn't getting kicked once enough to clue you in that maybe you should stop that? o_O
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: i was about to forward that
[07:06] <Hobbsee> but thanks
[07:07] <dabaR> everyone likes to have fun :-)
[07:07] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, forward it to where? There isn't an #offensive-idiot channel that I know of...
[07:07] <bimberi> MSTK: depends on what it is really, sometimes it's in another repository, sometimes you need to compile it yourself
[07:07] <malt> does www.m4lt.com/stats/ work for everyone? i got psychostats working i think
[07:07] <somerville32> hehe
[07:07] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: *grin*.  was thinking to ##offtopic actually
[07:07] <h00t> hey ppl i have a really weird problem ... i am listening to a mms stream ... but it seem that in firefox totem is handling it .. how can i make it so mplayer will handle it
[07:07] <Hobbsee> dabaR: sure, and i get fun kicking people :)
[07:08] <arrenlex> h00t: The easiest way is to remove the totem-mozilla package.
[07:08] <dabaR> Hobbsee: would you say you get a kick out of it?
[07:08] <arrenlex> h00t: And install mozilla-mplayer.
[07:08] <Hobbsee> dabaR: perhaps :P
[07:08] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: BOINC shouldn't be a problem because it runs niced (only uses the CPU when nothing else is). Still, I don't run it so I dunno...
[07:09] <MSTK> bimberi - I'm new to this stuff.  in Windows all I had to do was run an .exe.  Is there a guide taht shows me how to compile things, etc?
[07:09] <h00t> arrenlex, yes i installed the mplaer as well as firefox plugin
[07:09] <arrenlex> !compile | MSTK
[07:09] <ubotu> MSTK: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:09] <dabaR> repos > MSTK
[07:09] <arrenlex> h00t: Then remove totem-mozilla and you're all set.
[07:09] <h00t> arrenlex, ok... let's see
[07:10] <Jbirk> I have a question about a NIC
[07:10] <Geoffrey2> now, another problem I have occasionally is when I go to shut down I get a black screen with the line, as I remember it "BCM43xx: Controller Reset (TX Timeout", constantly repeating
[07:10] <arrenlex> !ask  | Jbirk
[07:10] <ubotu> Jbirk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:10] <MSTK> thanks, dabaR.
[07:10] <Jbirk> I bought a Gigabit NIC today, but it is terribly slow under Ubuntu
[07:10] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Does BCM43xx mean anything to you?
[07:10] <dabaR> MSTK: mozilla-mplayer is in multiverse.
[07:10] <Jbirk> It runs slower than the built in 10/100 VIA NIC built into my motherboard
[07:10] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, it's the Broadcom chipset for my internal wireless
[07:11] <MSTK> dabaR - I know.  I just wanted to know for future reference if I stumble upon a plug-in that is not
[07:11] <rapid_> Geoffrey2, sounds like its not shuting down before you shutdown
[07:11] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Ah. I don't know anything about wireless, sorry. = /
[07:11] <Jbirk> I installed the Air Link 10/100/1000 Adapter with Realtec chipset and Ubuntu detected it fine
[07:11] <rapid_> Geoffrey2, before you shutdown try a simaple "ifconfig wlan0 down" where wlan0 is your interface.
[07:11] <Jbirk> Windows and the switch it is connected too both show 1 Gbps
[07:11] <dabaR> MSTK: compiling is simple, but remember to use checkinstall
[07:11] <Jbirk> ifdown wlan0 will work too
[07:11] <MSTK> thanks, I'll remember that
[07:12] <Jbirk> ANy ideas why the card is so slow
[07:12] <Jbirk> 289 minutes to copy 4.36 GB of data
[07:12] <MSTK> ack.  sorry for another question =/. I've just installed mozilla-mplayer, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on my browser after I restart firefox.  Is there something that I need to switch on?  A hidden setting?
[07:12] <Geoffrey2> MSTK, just curious about your name, is that MST3K, by chance?
[07:12] <Jbirk> Why is it that the built in 10/100 VIA junk in my mootherboard is way faster?  It does the copy in about 22 Min
[07:13] <Jbirk> MSTK, did you install mplayer too?
[07:13] <h00t> arrenlex, you were absolutely right ... what the hell did firefox do ... just "moved on" to a next available plugin
[07:13] <h00t> that's weird
[07:13] <MSTK> Geoffrey2 - Actually, no.  I picked this before I knew about MST3K.  But after watching it, I think I should have.
[07:13] <MSTK> Jbirk - yes
[07:13] <MSTK> all of the packages
[07:13] <Jbirk> should start streaming video
[07:13] <Jbirk> and playing it back
[07:13] <zarul> I hate firefox
[07:13] <Jbirk> did you also install the codecs
[07:14] <arrenlex> h00t: Firefox took the first plugin it detected that said it could handle video. If you go into "about:plugins" you can see a list of all the plugins installed and what they handle.
[07:14] <Jbirk> Firefox is actually quite good
[07:14] <zarul> it's getting heavier these  days
[07:14] <dabaR> mstk uninstall totem-mozilla, if you read the channel you would see h00t  has the same issue
[07:14] <MSTK> totem = the pre-installed media player, right?
[07:14] <Jbirk> yes
[07:14] <h00t> MSTK, ys
[07:14] <Jbirk> sometimes people have gxine
[07:15] <spx2> foshizzle babey
[07:15] <h00t> MSTK, I'd remove the whole thing ... i hate totem...
[07:15] <Jbirk> Oh, BTW, close Firefox
[07:15] <arrenlex> ...please don't start, spx2.
[07:15] <spx2> just installed beryl my nizzle
[07:15] <Jbirk> before installing the plugins
[07:15] <Jbirk> and install them as root
[07:15] <MSTK> spx2 - yes, Beryl is great
[07:15] <spx2> who the man now ?
[07:15] <MSTK> yet totally pointless
[07:15] <MSTK> which is what makes it even more great
[07:15] <Jbirk> Good ol' BerylManager eh?
[07:15] <MSTK> who cares if you don't need every window that you close to burst into flames?
[07:15] <Geetarman> quick question, what is a good irc client for ubuntu
[07:15] <spx2> yeah baby thats right,im the beryzzle my nizzle
[07:15] <Jbirk> I don't care much for Beryl these days
[07:15] <Jbirk> it is a bit buggy
[07:15] <arrenlex> spx2: You're the man, because you managed to install a 3D-accelerated window manager from third-party repositories. The ladies will be all over you.
[07:15] <MSTK> who cares if wobbly windows don't help you at all?
[07:16] <MSTK> they're still awesome
[07:16] <Jbirk> nor does the expose
[07:16] <Jbirk> yeah
[07:16] <Jbirk> true
[07:16] <Jbirk> I m iss the poping menus
[07:16] <Jbirk> ever since I did a beryl upgrade it was never as good
[07:16] <h00t> chix digg 3d X
[07:16] <MSTK> Wobbly Windows are the most pointless aesthetic feature ever.  Yet it's better than all of the eye candy in Windows Vista combined
[07:16] <Jbirk> I think the magic trick With Linux is
[07:16] <Jbirk> Nvidia Graphics Cards
[07:16] <spx2> yo , word out to my hommies on #ubuntu , beryl is shitizzle and it either don't workizzle so chill out
[07:16] <arrenlex> !enter | Jbirk
[07:16] <ubotu> Jbirk: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:17] <zarul> SpacePuppy can u please stop the shizzle mizzle my  niggaz thing?
[07:17] <Geoffrey2> and, of course, this is a Dell computer with a Broadcom internal wireless....needless to say, neither Dell or Broadcom provide Linux drivers for anything
[07:17] <zarul> ops
[07:17] <arrenlex> dieman_: Nice hostname.
[07:17] <zarul> sorry
[07:17] <zarul> spx2
[07:18] <srf21c> Anyone had any luck installing cinelerra on Edgy?
[07:18] <Jbirk> I think Ubuntu likes Broadcom, Intel, and Nvidia very much as well as AMD.  However, I don't think Linux plays well with other hardware much.  You wouldn't belive how much effort it took to get my mouse working right
[07:18] <spx2> srf21c: maybe cinderella ?
[07:18] <h00t> one more thing ppl ... this is the second time i've installed 6.10 ... but i've noticed that there's much less software installed this time and also some of the things (like mplayer plugin) look and behave differently .... question is ... do the official iso images actually change from day to day
[07:18] <srf21c> I added the repos according to the faq (digging for link)  program installed, but won't launch
[07:18] <zarul> spx2, he said cinelerra
[07:18] <arrenlex> srf21c: I've installed it on Debian Etch, which is close. Problems?
[07:18] <Jbirk> It is a movie studio
[07:18] <srf21c> pretty sure it's called cinelerra.  Looks like a typo, I know.
[07:19] <srf21c> Threw me at first too.
[07:19] <dabaR> srf21c: you followed http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu?
[07:19] <spx2> zarul: thats right ma nigga , you have goog eye sight ,good for you,yay!
[07:19] <spx2> :D
[07:19] <Jbirk> I installed it on Dapper and it ran like a champ.  Much like final cut pro.  I really liked it.
[07:19] <srf21c> er, I did the lazy repos way,  ;)  let me see if I can dig up the link to the forum thread.
[07:19] <arrenlex> srf21c: What problems are you having with it?
[07:19] <dieman_> arrenlex: thanks
[07:20] <srf21c> Try to launch the program, and its pops up a "Program Crash Detected" windows
[07:20] <Rupie> My drives are /dev/sda,sdb... What does the s mean? Why is it not hda?
[07:20] <srf21c> Only says "Sorry, Cinelerra closed unexpectedly" then asks if I want to report a bug, etc.
[07:20] <dabaR> SATA vs. IDE
[07:20] <Jbirk> S is for SATA or SCSI or USB
[07:20] <zeeble> maybe you have a SATA controller, or SCSI
[07:21] <Rupie> What's the difference between sata and scsi?
[07:21] <zeeble> omg
[07:21] <Jbirk> $$$ and the BUS
[07:21] <dabaR> Rupie: wikipedia
[07:21] <disant> why would this happen.. I change the device settings w/mii-tool but it still shos the old settings?
[07:21] <srf21c> Running Edgy 6.10, w/all latest updateds.
[07:21] <Jbirk> SATA is a serial connection.  1 Cable 1 drive.  SCSI supports 8 to 16 devices with 0 reserved for SCSI BUS.
[07:21] <Pablo> anyone got a sprint aircard working on edgy?
[07:21] <arrenlex> srf21c: You could try to launch it from the command line and see if it prints an error.
[07:22] <spx2> yo ma hommiez ! noone listen to me anymo ? what up ?
[07:22] <Jbirk> CAn I overclock from within Linux?
[07:22] <Rupie> Oh... so just connections? The hard drives aren't different then?
[07:22] <Jbirk> That depends on what you mean by different?
[07:22] <Jbirk> The hard drive connections, jumpers, and controllers are different.
[07:22] <srf21c> Here's the post I used to install.   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1721190&postcount=2
[07:22] <arrenlex> Jbirk: Depends what your cpu supports... cpufrequtils IIRC has the cpu-set-freq command to set your CPU frequency if your processor supports it.
[07:23] <Geoffrey2> ok, I want to download the latest Windows driver for my Broadcom wireless, and extract the firmware from it...given a choice between versions (98, NT, XP, etc), is there any particular version that would be preferable?
[07:23] <srf21c> arrenlex, good idea, I'll try that now.
[07:23] <Jbirk> The hard drives themselves are usually faster for SCSI and usually built to higher tolerances.
[07:23] <Jbirk> I.e. it is not uncommon to have 10,000 and 15,000 RPM SCSI drives
[07:23] <srf21c> When I try to launch cinelerra from the command prompt is sez;   Illegal instruction (core dumped)
[07:24] <Jbirk> cpufreq-selector --governor performance?
[07:24] <ThePub> good evening
[07:24] <Hoso001> Has anyone successfully emulated a recent realese of itunes?
[07:24] <Jbirk> I did that and it took it to full speed; however, I want to take my CPU above and beyond its spectifications
[07:24] <juancarlos> so i compiled the new kernel and im getting this intel_rng: FWH error
[07:25] <Jbirk> Why compile?
[07:25] <dabaR> srf21c: show your sources.list on pastebin
[07:25] <Jbirk> Can't you get a package?
[07:25] <juancarlos> hmm how?
[07:26] <srf21c> alright dabaR, standby.
[07:26] <Jbirk> CAn I increase my motherboard BUS Speed?
[07:26] <dabaR> pah, spx2 left
[07:26] <mneptok> Jbirk: yes. buy a new motherboard. :)
[07:27] <Jbirk> I have 2 new ones
[07:27] <Jbirk> Ubuntu is on my junk computer
[07:27] <Pablo> anyone got a sprint aircard working on edgy?
[07:27] <Jbirk> My test/spare
[07:27] <zarul> dabaR, he wasn't happy we ighnored him
[07:27] <zarul> lol
[07:28] <Pablo> who?
[07:28] <Rupie> Thanx a lot jbirk :)
[07:28] <Jbirk> What did I do?
[07:28] <Rupie> Told me about scsi?
[07:28] <Jbirk> Oh, no problem.  I use it every day at work
[07:29] <Jbirk> The jumpers are Binary
[07:29] <Jbirk> i.e. the rule is that each drive must be configured differently than the other drives
[07:29] <akio> i want to use x as root
[07:29] <Jbirk> Scsi is hot swappable as is SATA, FYI
[07:29] <arrenlex> akio: ...why?
[07:29] <Jbirk> akio, no you don't
[07:29] <akio> oh god
[07:29] <arrenlex> akio: If you want to run certain programs, use gtksu.
[07:29] <akio> please
[07:30] <Go1> Aw, that didn't work.
[07:30] <srf21c> dang, pastebin is taking 4ever.
[07:30] <Jbirk> okay
[07:30] <Jbirk> switch to a console
[07:30] <Jbirk> ctrl alt f1
[07:30] <Jbirk> sudo -i
[07:30] <Jbirk> Once you are at the # prompt, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:31] <Jbirk> then #startx
[07:31] <Jbirk> Don't know why you would do that though
[07:31] <akio> because i have nothing to fear from hackers or damaging my system
[07:31] <somerville32> akio: Why is that?
[07:31] <akio> i have installed 3 distros in the past week
[07:31] <akio> on the same disk
[07:32] <zarul> akio,  but you should be fearful of yourself
[07:32] <akio> right
[07:32] <akio> nuke and pave my friend
[07:32] <srf21c> would anyone care to suggest a pastebin alternative?  Website is not responding for whatever reason.
[07:32] <zarul> I mean accidentally deleting  files...
[07:32] <dabaR> srf21c: /topic
[07:32] <arrenlex> akio: Can you explain what you need to constantly be doing that requires root privileges?
[07:32] <akio> besides there is only one thing i actually want to work properly
[07:33] <arrenlex> srf21c: pastebin.ca
[07:33] <Madpilot> ubotu, paste | srf21c
[07:33] <ubotu> srf21c: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:33] <akio> get my wireless working
[07:33] <arrenlex> Madpilot: I think the point was that the site was DOWN and he wanted something else =P
[07:33] <Madpilot> arrenlex, that URL works here, I just tried it
[07:33] <Madpilot> pastebin.com always seems to be down/insanely slow
[07:33] <somerville32> pastebin.ca is good though
[07:34] <Madpilot> akio, getting your wireless working requires root in X? Huh?
[07:34] <disant> where do I configure module parameters in ubuntu?
[07:34] <akio> i have a 4311
[07:34] <akio> broadcom 4311
[07:34] <disant> used to be /etc/conf.modules
[07:34] <akio> and i want to use the devicescape stack
[07:35] <akio> im using 2.6.19
[07:35] <srf21c> thanks ubuto, I'll try the URL you provided.
[07:35] <akio> and i just dont care about safety right now, and i do alot of unsafe things
[07:35] <spx2> i haven't managed to get beryl running it just fucks up after i start it in the console.what might the cause be ?
[07:35] <srf21c> alright peeps, here's my apt sources.list  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36954/
[07:35] <akio> language dude
[07:36] <akio> i have never cursed on freenode
[07:36] <zarul> spx2, first stop using the "F' word, Beryl doesn't like it
[07:36] <zarul> that's why
[07:36] <spx2> zarul: really..why do you thnk its not working ?
[07:37] <Madpilot> spx2, beryl is very very alpha, no wonder it crashes
[07:37] <mneptok> spx2: Beryl is more likely to not work than work.
[07:37] <spx2> zarul: i'm gonna bring my girlfriend over to make my beryl right ... so i guess all of you aren't smarter than my gf ....
[07:37] <mneptok> spx2: she dates you. i don't 'nuff said.
[07:37] <dabaR> spx2: i guess
[07:38] <spx2> my gf is smarter than all of you put together
[07:38] <spx2> looolz
[07:38] <zarul> spx2, by just "it f**k up won't solve the problem, we are not psyhic, give us more details...
[07:38] <somerville32> !ops
[07:38] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[07:38] <Madpilot> somerville32, that wasn't really needed...
[07:38] <somerville32> Oh, didn't see your name :P
[07:39] <spx2> is zarul gay ?
[07:39] <mneptok> spx2: this isn't a dating channel
[07:39] <dabaR> lol!!
[07:39] <zarul> gay == happy
[07:39] <zarul> yes I am
[07:39] <Madpilot> spx2, absolute last warning. Behave, or be banned for 48 hrs...
[07:40] <zarul> but if gay == homosexual
[07:40] <zarul> no I am not
[07:40] <arrenlex> Hey, you guys, I heard of this awesome thing called Ubuntu.
[07:40] <arrenlex> Let's talk about that instead.
[07:40] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: only 48?  ban
[07:40] <spx2> Madpilot: if i send my gf over to your house can i be unbanned ?
[07:40] <Hobbsee> *bah
[07:40] <Hobbsee> that was the last one.
[07:40] <mneptok> and that's the end of that chapter
[07:40] <srf21c> Did dabar drop off?
[07:40] <dabaR> srf21c: damn, dude, what is the output of uname -r?
[07:41] <mneptok> uhhh ... that wasn't well thought out.
[07:41] <srf21c> uname -r is  2.6.17-10-generic
[07:41] <dabaR> srf21c: so is your cpu a pentium 4?
[07:42] <srf21c> just slapped on some updates today.
[07:42] <srf21c> I guess, it's an older Dell Dimension 4500
[07:42] <srf21c> I'm guessing it's prolly 5 years old  Hand me down from the folks.
[07:42] <dabaR> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:42] <srf21c> It was free, so I'm not complaining.
[07:42] <dabaR> srf21c: don't paste here
[07:42] <Hobbsee> mneptok: :P
[07:43] <dabaR> mmmmm...chicken...
[07:43] <srf21c> You want me to pastebin cat /prov/cpuinfo too?  Or is there a particular value you're looking for?
[07:43] <linux_user400354> after installing the nvidia driver on dapper, x wont start. i let the nvidia installer automatically configure my xorg.conf. any ideas?
[07:43] <dabaR> srf21c: what proc is it?
[07:43] <dabaR> srf21c: model name
[07:44] <lambo4jos> how come in ubuntu dapper 'sudo apt-get install mysql-query-browser' doesn't work?  I have come across many people complaining about this version of query browser failing when trying to run
[07:44] <lambo4jos> can anyone help?
[07:44] <mneptok> linux_user400354: installed from nVidia-supplied .bin installerator or from a repo?
[07:44] <srf21c>  GenuineIntel   cpu family      : 15   model           : 2   model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz   stepping        : 7   cpu MHz         : 2525.352   cache size      : 512 KB
[07:44] <arrenlex> linux_user400354: run the command "startx" from the console and tell us what error messages it prints.
[07:44] <Madpilot> !info mysql-query-browser dapper
[07:44] <dabaR> srf21c: OK, sudo apt-get remove --purge cinelerra
[07:44] <ubotu> mysql-query-browser: Official GUI tool to query MySQL database. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.17-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 716 kB, installed size 2116 kB
[07:44] <linux_user400354> arrenlex: im saying that didnt work
[07:44] <linux_user400354> arrenlex: oh, nevermind
[07:45] <srf21c> Purging cinelerra using aptitude instead (since that what I installed it with)
[07:45] <mneptok> lambo4jos: my guess? people don't ahve universe enabled, or if they do, have not refreshed repo listings.
[07:45] <dabaR> srf21c: replace your last line in sources.list with "deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/dapper/cinelerra/pentium4/ ./"
[07:45] <dabaR> srf21c: and then install cinelerra again, and try running it again.
[07:45] <linux_user400354> mneptok: the .bin installer from nvidia.com
[07:45] <srf21c> Aye aye.
[07:45] <lambo4jos> mneptok: your talking about universe in the sources.list file?
[07:45] <mneptok> lambo4jos: eye yam
[07:47] <monkey050> Is anybody awake at this hour?
[07:47] <frogzoo> zzz...
[07:47] <ArwynH> monkey050: yes, it's 3pm here
[07:47] <srf21c> monkey:  I'm counting 810 people in the chat room.  Wonder what percentage are active.
[07:47] <fallingdutch> since i upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 i have a problem connecting to my svn-server: svn list svn://hostname/rep fails with "connot connet to host hostname. but a svn list svn://192.168.1.1/repname works. dig hostname returns 192.168.1.1 so what could be the problem?
[07:47] <monkey050> Heh.
[07:48] <monkey050> Do any of you guys know what to do in the case of installing 6.10 on one computer and then putting the harddrive into another?  (Laptop)
[07:48] <MSTK> hey all.  just a quick question.  Will the extensions that I used on my Windows version of Firefox still work the same on my Ubuntu version?
[07:48] <lambo4jos> mneptok: i am going to check this file but i am pretty sure it is available.  when i run query browser, it opens, i can create a table, but when i edit a table it fails and closes?  i dont know what gives
[07:48] <Madpilot> monkey050, this is a very international channel. "this hour" would probably include all 24 of them. ;)
[07:48] <monkey050> No problem.
[07:48] <monkey050> If anybody can help with my strange problem, I'm booting into recovery mode now.  Please PM.
[07:49] <ArwynH> MSTK: depends on the extensions, but probably yes.
[07:49] <tabman> I'm a traditional user of windows & I use google talk, msn etc there to do voice chat ? what is the alternative on Ubuntu given that people on the other side are not using Linux
[07:49] <srf21c> MSTK:  I think the extensions should work, unless they are platform specific.
[07:49] <mneptok> lambo4jos: then the problem is not installing the package, it's a problem with the software once the package is installed.
[07:50] <mneptok> lambo4jos: i would suggest checking LP for bug reports
[07:50] <srf21c> dabar:  Success!   Thank you very much.
[07:50] <frogzoo> !doesn't work | monkey050
[07:50] <ubotu> monkey050: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:50] <dabaR> tabman: skype...
[07:50] <dabaR> srf21c: you got what was wrong?
[07:50] <mneptok> tabman: GAIM + Skype/Gizmo
[07:50] <srf21c> Cinelerra fired right up.
[07:50] <linux_user400354> anyone tried ventrilo with wine?
[07:50] <srf21c> I don't really understand what happened, care to edumacate me?
[07:50] <lambo4jos> mneptok: LP?
[07:50] <tabman> GAIM does not have voice ?
[07:50] <mneptok> lambo4jos: Launchpad
[07:51] <MSTK> Yeah.  Recently I re-installed all of my extensions.  But then the performance of FF degraded.  And sometimes sound on flash movies would be disabled until I restarted FF.  I think it's just a problem with one extension though.
[07:51] <monkey050> OK.
[07:51] <ArwynH> tabman: not yet, it's in the works. Skype has voice though.
[07:51] <monkey050> Is there someone I can converse with on PM about this?
[07:51] <monkey050> I can run though in detail what I did.
[07:51] <srf21c> wait, duh!  I put in a package source for the athlon
[07:51] <monkey050> It's hard for me to keep track in here.  Thanks.
[07:51] <tabman> mneptok: what is the package for skype ?
[07:52] <mneptok> tabman: there's no package (yet)
[07:52] <dabaR> !skyp
[07:52] <dabaR> !skype
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skyp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:52] <monkey050> I installed on one laptop and put the HDD in my laptop since it doesn't have a working CD drive.  I'm assuming it's a hardware issue.
[07:52] <monkey050> I have a blinky typing line.
[07:52] <frogzoo> monkey050: a lot of people idle here, if you take your support to pm, it means other's can't learn from your experience
[07:52] <monkey050> Is there something I can do to make Ubuntu reconfigure the hardware settings?
[07:53] <monkey050> OK, I understand.
[07:53] <srf21c> alright, next video editing question, what do people here prefer, cinerella or kino?  I want to create Ogg Theora vids.
[07:53] <linux_user400354> !ventrilo
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ventrilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <tabman> dabaR: ok thanks I'll look into
[07:53] <monkey050> So is there a way I can make Ubuntu boot properly in my situation?
[07:53] <frogzoo> monkey050: which piece of h/w doesn't work?
[07:53] <monkey050> It's not hardware not working, it's Ubuntu not booting right.
[07:54] <monkey050> I tried booting in Recovery Mode and the last line I have is "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[07:54] <MSTK> is there a shortcut to system monitor?  sort of like CTRL+ALT+DEL was for Windows?
[07:54] <Fede23b> how much time do you think it will take linux to be a noob-friendly os ?
[07:54] <monkey050> And then there's a thing that says "(initramfs) _" which I can type on
[07:54] <Fede23b> 5 years ?
[07:54] <frogzoo> monkey050: you installed on one machine, then switched the drive to another?
[07:54] <monkey050> Frogzoo:  correct.
[07:55] <monkey050> Frogzoo:  I'm assuming it's confused about the hardware configuration.
[07:55] <Fede23b> frog, what's your take on my question ?
[07:55] <dabaR> Fede23b: which user?
[07:55] <monkey050> Frogzoo:  I do not have a working CD drive on the computer the drive is in now - so is there some command I can use to make Ubuntu boot properly?
[07:56] <Fede23b> dabaR I don't understand your question...
[07:56] <srf21c> MSTK:  There's a tip in the Ubuntu guide that shows you how to map CTRL-ALT-DEL to system monitor
[07:56] <monkey050> Frogzoo:  OK, now everything just disappeared.
[07:56] <srf21c> Let me see if I can find the link for you.
[07:56] <monkey050> Wait, I pressed a button and it reappeared.
[07:56] <jch> I have a trackball/keyboard USB combination device. I've done a lot of researching on the subject and I cannot figure out why I can't get it working in Ubuntu. When I cat the stuff in /dev/input/ (for which a few obviously correspond to the device), I get no output for the trackball device. However, the keyboard and trackball work fine on a plain-jane Windows XP installation on the same computer.
[07:56] <frogzoo> monkey050: your best bet is an install on the native machine - consider installing from usb key if you can
[07:57] <srf21c> MSTK:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_enable_Ctrl.2BAlt.2BDel_to_open_System_Monitor_in_GNOME
[07:57] <monkey050> I can't boot from USB devices with this computer as far as I know.  If windows worked, USB devices start working when it boots up.  :?
[07:57] <monkey050> The only USB key I have is 128MB.
[07:57] <MSTK> oh, I know how to map it
[07:58] <monkey050> Unless there's something I don't know.
[07:58] <MSTK> I just thought there was a default key combination
[07:58] <FERAS> please how can I configure my iptable  on my pc
[07:58] <srf21c> jch:  have you tried any other pointing devices under linux?  Maybe another mouse?
[07:58] <MSTK> or something
[07:58] <monkey050> I will get my USB key.
[07:58] <jch> srf21c: Let me try...
[07:58] <Fly_Molo_> hey can someone help me get wireless working on my zv6000 HP laptop (6.10 Edgy) i currently cannot connect to the internet because my ethernet cable isnt being detected
[07:58] <srf21c> MSTK:  now aware of any default system monitor keyboard shortcuts under Gnome.
[07:58] <srf21c> Or Kubuntu or Xubuntu
[07:59] <srf21c> er, "not" aware. :D
[07:59] <jch> srf21c, I don't have another USB pointer device, but I do have a Synaptics touch pad on the machine...
[07:59] <monkey050> I now have my 128MB usb key handy.
[07:59] <linux_user400354> monkey050: check the bios
[07:59] <srf21c> jck:  does your keyboard work at all?
[07:59] <frogzoo> srf21c: system -> prefs -> k/b shortcutws
[07:59] <jch> srf21c, The keyboard works, not the mouse function...
[07:59] <monkey050> 400354:  How do I get to it if GRUB keeps coming up???
[08:00] <screechingcat> i couple of programs im trying to install have dependencies in kdelibs4. but thats not available in the repos. the latest seems to be kdelibs4c2a. maybe i should get the fesity package ?
[08:00] <monkey050> I know how to get to it under normal circumstances but now it doesn't let me.
[08:00] <frogzoo> monkey050: nvm, installing from usb is a long haul unless you know what you're doing
[08:00] <srf21c> frogzoo:  I think what MSTK was asking is if there's a default out-of-box keyboard sequence for the system monitor.
[08:00] <Ganesh> guys help me.... I have installed dual OS... ubuntu n windows xp... But my grub is not get displayed...automatically ubuntu gets loaded.... help me?...i want choices to get appear in grub......
[08:00] <monkey050> So there's no commands I can use to make Ubuntu reconfigure its hardware setup or something?
[08:01] <arrenlex> screechingcat: Programs you're trying to install how?
[08:01] <monkey050> I have this line here I can type on in Recovery Mode.
[08:01] <srf21c> jch:  Do you happen to remember how windows detects your trackball under windows?  That info could be helpful getting it to work in Ubuntu
[08:01] <Fede23b> hahaha ganesh you are in real trouble
[08:01] <Fede23b> I'm a complete newbie, so I can't help you...
[08:01] <FERAS>  im new user on linux --how configure iptables to protect my pc --please
[08:01] <Fede23b> sorry
[08:01] <monkey050> It says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off".  Then there's "(initramfs) _"
[08:01] <Ganesh> guys help me.... I have installed dual OS... ubuntu n windows xp... But my grub is not get displayed...automatically ubuntu gets loaded.... help me?...i want choices to get appear in grub......
[08:01] <screechingcat> arrenlex: .debs that i downloaded from kde-apps.org
[08:01] <frogzoo> Ganesh: the timeout on grub might be zero,,,
[08:01] <Fede23b> Somebody help poor Ganesh with grub !
[08:02] <lambo4jos> mneptok: how would i install mysql-query-browser from source?  and how do i find the dependencies?  i haven't found any good resources on this
[08:02] <srf21c> FERAS:  if you're a new user, you might want to try firestarter in lieu of iptables.
[08:02] <srf21c> Much easier to set up and configure firestarter IMO
[08:02] <screechingcat> arrenlex: even fesity doesnt seem to have kdelibs4. it has the same package as edgy
[08:02] <arrenlex> screechingcat: Ah. Yes, the ubuntu package is kdelibs4c2a, and no you don't need feisty packages.
[08:02] <Fly_Molo_> can someone help me getting my internet to work, my ethernet isnt working
[08:02] <ArwynH> FERAS: on a default install, you don't neet iptables. your system should be fine. no open ports, etc...
[08:02] <frogzoo> lambo4jos: why do you want source? the binary's fine
[08:02] <mneptok> lambo4jos: have you checked for bug reports, or filed one?
[08:02] <arrenlex> screechingcat: You're going to have to modify the dependencies in the poorly made debs or install from source.
[08:02] <monkey050> Is there anything I can do on this command line thing?
[08:02] <screechingcat> arrenlex: how do i modify the deps ?
[08:03] <srf21c> Fly_Molo:  Do you get a orange or green link light on the ethernet port?
[08:03] <monkey050> When I type help it gives me all kinds of commands
[08:03] <Fly_Molo_> nope
[08:03] <ArwynH> monkey050: probably. you have a command line? what command line? grub?
[08:03] <arrenlex> screechingcat: Uhh... not easily. To be honest I wrote myself quite a complicated shell script to handle the unpacking and repacking. I advise you to install from source... unofficial debs will probably cause problems because they're compiled for different libraries.
[08:03] <Fly_Molo_> and this is on Edgy 6.10
[08:04] <arrenlex> screechingcat: Are you sure you can't get whatever it is you're trying to get from the official repositories?
[08:04] <monkey050> I'm in Recovery Mode.
[08:04] <cmt^^> i have a problem changing file-associations in ubuntu edgy. I tried right-clicking the file[type]  I wanted to change, and then select Properties/Open With.. But the problem is that as a regular user I can't change anything in that list, and when changing stuff as root I don't see the effects as a regular user
[08:04] <srf21c> Fly_Molo:  That could be a problem.   Most ethernet cards will light up w/ a link light.  But not all.
[08:04] <cmt^^> anyone?
[08:04] <monkey050> Evidently, Ubuntu didn't load right and I have this line.
[08:04] <lambo4jos> mneptok: i filed one.  and the source package status for query browser status is removed but i dont know what that means
[08:04] <srf21c> Fly_molo:  Is there a link light on your switch or ethernet hub?
[08:04] <Fly_Molo_> but the thing is, 6.06 worked just fine
[08:04] <monkey050> It starts with "(initramfs)"  Then the blinky line
[08:04] <screechingcat> arrenlex: nope. i checked. they're not there. konverter, kmencoder and kooldock
[08:04] <FERAS>  I replace win with ubuntu on my pc to protect me from specific ip 172 . -----  I need to configure iptables to deny that ip
[08:04] <monkey050> but it says /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[08:05] <srf21c> Fly_Molo:  Do you remember what kind of driver your network card was using in 6.06?
[08:05] <arrenlex> screechingcat: Then I suggest you install from source.
[08:05] <Fly_Molo_> no, it was a little while ago
[08:05] <Fly_Molo_> but it was a broadcom
[08:05] <Fly_Molo_> i know my wireless
[08:05] <Chandu> is there any way to add additional langauags (locales) without doing "dpkg-reconfigure locales" , thru any other command or script
[08:05] <screechingcat> arrenlex: alright thanks
[08:05] <srf21c> Fly_molo:  ok, sorry I assumed it was wired ethernet.
[08:06] <Fly_Molo_> it is
[08:06] <screechingcat> arrenlex: what would happen if i forced it ?
[08:06] <Fly_Molo_> the wired ethernet isnt working either
[08:06] <arrenlex> screechingcat: Especially since, randomly googling for kooldock, I find that a) the debian package link is broken, and b) it's for Debian Sid, which isn't even ubuntu and probably won't be compatible.
[08:06] <arrenlex> screechingcat: Then it will complain about unresolved dependencies every time you use apt-get or synaptic for anything.
[08:06] <srf21c> Fly_molo, does lspci show your ethernet device?  What kind of adpater is it? integrated, pci card, usb?
[08:07] <screechingcat> arrenlex: shit. definitely had enough of that. thanks mate
[08:07] <arrenlex> !language
[08:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:07] <screechingcat> sure. sorry
[08:07] <monkey050> So nobody here can help me?
[08:07] <Fly_Molo_> its integrated
[08:07] <srf21c> screechingcat:  try swearing in obscure furren languages instead.  Works like a champ. . ;)
[08:07] <Fly_Molo_> Realtek
[08:08] <ArwynH> monkey050: doesn't look like it.
[08:08] <Fly_Molo_> its on a laptoip
[08:08] <srf21c> fly_molo  ok.  does lspci command show the device?
[08:08] <jb0nd38372> lol srf21c, always some way to get past anything, until its patched hhehe... or in the bots case, added too
[08:08] <Fly_Molo_> yeah
[08:08] <somerville32> srf21c, Try not swearing at all - works like a champ ;] 
[08:09] <ArwynH> monkey050: if i had the system at hand i could probably do something, but i'm not up to explaining something i havn't done before over irc. sorry.
[08:09] <screechingcat> srf21c: chuthya (f**ker in hindi)
[08:09] <monkey050> You could probably recreate the problem by installing Ubuntu on one laptop and then putting it in another.
[08:09] <monkey050> That's my problem.  It won't boot on the other laptop.
[08:09] <ArwynH> monkey050: basicly what you need to do is reconfigure your packages. either by hand or automatically via dpkg
[08:09] <monkey050> It just gives me a goofy command line kind of thing.
[08:10] <monkey050> I see a (initramfs) _ that I can type on
[08:10] <ArwynH> monkey050: i don't have 2 laptops available >_>
[08:10] <srf21c> fly_molo:  that's good.  Now what does lsmod say?  Do you see a realtek module loaded?  I forget what the exact name is off the top of my head.
[08:10] <ArwynH> hmm. try typing 'ls'
[08:10] <monkey050> Wouldn't it do the same for 2 desktops?
[08:10] <asnubuntu-> hi all ! how to remove the games of gnome?
[08:10] <monkey050> Anyways, before that it says /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[08:10] <lambo4jos> frogzoo: how would i install query browser binaries and where would i get them?
[08:11] <ArwynH> monkey050: i'm asuming this is 6.10?
[08:11] <monkey050> Yes
[08:11] <Fly_Molo_> well i dont see anything with realtek in it
[08:11] <barata> how to install Boutell's gd?
[08:11] <barata> apt-get install WHAT?
[08:11] <barata> or it is not in the repository?
[08:11] <monkey050> I mentioned it was 6.10 earlier.
[08:11] <srf21c> Can someone help us out?  Anyone know what the module name for a realtek nic is?
[08:12] <frogzoo> lambo4jos: sudo apt-get install mysql-query-browser
[08:12] <barata> gdbm?
[08:12] <ArwynH> monkey050: what is the output of 'ls'? or rather does it give output?
[08:12] <lambo4jos> frogzoo: this is for dapper and after an install and opening browser, i can create table but when i edit table it shuts down.
[08:12] <monkey050> let me try
[08:12] <frogzoo> srf21c: best bet is to google for the make/model + 'linux driver'
[08:12] <foo> I shouldn't have any issue with drivers on ubuntu with this, right?  POWERCOLOR X800GTO256MBDDR3 Radeon X800GTO 256-bit PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
[08:13] <monkey050> When I type ls it gives me more commands.  dev, bin, etc, modules, scripts, usr, proc, var, root, etc etc.
[08:13] <adriano> does pvmove even work in ubuntu?
[08:13] <FERAS>  I replace win with ubuntu on my pc to protect me from specific ip 172 . -----  I need to configure iptables to deny that ip
[08:13] <adriano> for me it just hands there
[08:13] <srf21c> thanks frogzoo.   fly_molo did you catch that?
[08:13] <adriano> hangs*
[08:13] <Fly_Molo_> yeah im going to search for that now
[08:13] <srf21c> once you have the module name, you can try to manually load it using the insmod command.
[08:13] <frogzoo> Fly_Molo_: best bet is to google for the make/model + 'linux driver'
[08:13] <ArwynH> monkey050: now, does 'dpkg' give any output?
[08:14] <monkey050> Let me try
[08:14] <monkey050> "/bin/sh: dpkg: not found"
[08:14] <monkey050> NOTE: This is in the Recovery Mode thing.
[08:14] <frogzoo> monkey050: this would be fixable maybe for an expert - your best bet is finding a workable cd drive
[08:15] <monkey050> Yeah, I found http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264583&highlight=swapped+hard+drive which mentions a similar problem.
[08:15] <monkey050> I just wouldn't know how to disable the drives or anything.
[08:15] <ArwynH> monkey050: yes. i've never been in recovery mode before, i wasn't sure what it was. Your drives aren't mounted in it it seems.
[08:16] <srf21c> fly_molo:  also forget to ask if you saw any errors in dmesg output.  That could provide some clues as well.
[08:16] <monkey050> So if I go to GRUB is there a way for me to mount it?
[08:16] <monkey050> I can mount in Recovery Mode too, though
[08:16] <ArwynH> monkey050: you can do it from recovery mode.
[08:16] <srf21c> fly_molo, did you upgrade over your old 6.06 installatino?  Or was this a clean install?
[08:16] <monkey050> Ok, so what do I tell it?
[08:16] <Fly_Molo_> clean install
[08:16] <PhibreOptix> Hey guys, I just did a sudo cat /var/log/dmesg and in it I found
[08:17] <PhibreOptix> ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found! Is this bad?
[08:17] <ArwynH> monkey050: do you know what your root partition is?
[08:17] <monkey050> whatever the default 3 letters is and 0 or 1.
[08:17] <monkey050> I can't scroll up to see what it was trying to load though
[08:17] <monkey050> I can however go and see in GRUB
[08:17] <srf21c> PhibreOptix:  did you aready try searching for "ACPI and DSDT" in the ubuntu forums?
[08:17] <aldwin> hi
[08:18] <monkey050> I just have to Ctrl Alt Delete
[08:18] <HymnToLife> !hi | aldwin
[08:18] <ubotu> aldwin: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:18] <aldwin> is there anynone here who knows what is the meaning of GNU???
[08:18] <monkey050> Should I go to the regular command in GRUB or stay in Recovery Mode?
[08:18] <HymnToLife> Generally Not Usable
[08:18] <PhibreOptix> srf21c: No, i'll go do that now
[08:18] <frogzoo> monkey050: did you read & follow the page you posted?
[08:18] <arrenlex> aldwin: GNU'S Not Unix :P
[08:18] <monkey050> There's no specific instruction.
[08:18] <srf21c> aldwin:  It's a backronym.   "Gnu Not Unix.
[08:18] <aldwin> what does that mean then?
[08:18] <arrenlex> aldwin: It means GNU isn't Unix?
[08:18] <aldwin> HmmToLife: Generally Not Usable?
[08:18] <monkey050> It says basically to try installing on the other machine and disable drives.
[08:19] <arrenlex> aldwin: They were kidding.
[08:19] <monkey050> But the installation was a little to simple and it didn't mention any drives.
[08:19] <HymnToLife> (in case you guys didn't get it, it was a _joke_ :p)
[08:19] <fallingdutch> anyone an idea why i can't connect to my svn-server using its hostname but can if using its ip althought dig hostname returns the ip?
[08:19] <arrenlex> !kidding | HymnToLife
[08:19] <ubotu> HymnToLife: You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)
[08:19] <srf21c> aldwin:  It's a form for wordplay.  It's more or less meaningless.
[08:19] <monkey050> I'm going to go to GRUB.
[08:19] <fallingdutch> (had no problems with ubuntu 6.06)
[08:19] <ArwynH> monkey050: grub won't tell you anything. try mounting /dev/hda1. "mount /dev/hda1"
[08:19] <frogzoo> monkey050: the point about similarity of machines wasn't lost on you? what are the differences between them?
[08:19] <aldwin> hmm
[08:20] <monkey050> Mine's a Sony PCG-GR250 and the othe was a Dell something.
[08:20] <aldwin> i really need to know what GNU means
[08:20] <srf21c> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backronym
[08:20] <HymnToLife> srf21c, actually it's quite meaning ful, given that GNU was designed as a free alternative to UNIX
[08:20] <frogzoo> !gnu
[08:20] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[08:20] <monkey050> I'll try mounting that in a second.
[08:20] <aldwin> i dont know if it is allowable or is it right for me to print the linux 101 at linux.org?
[08:20] <HymnToLife> aldwin, GNU's Not Unix, as people told you
[08:20] <srf21c> HymnToLife:  ok, you're right, I rescind that statement.
[08:20] <frogzoo> monkey050: and did you check for the differences that link mentioned?
[08:21] <barata> how to install Boutell's gd?
[08:21] <monkey050> yes, I read it.
[08:21] <barata> the answer is "apt-get install php5-gd"
[08:21] <monkey050> I have a nonfunctional CD Drive and the Dell has one.  That's the only major hardware difference AFAIK.
[08:21] <barata> 100 for myself!
[08:21] <srf21c> I meant that to say that backronyms are not inherently meaningful.  They're kind of confusing to the uninitiated.
[08:21] <barata> 0 for you all
[08:21] <frogzoo> monkey050: what are the h/w differences?
[08:21] <barata> :)
[08:21] <aldwin> so can anyone tell me what does it mean if GNU means Generally Not Usable???
[08:21] <jb0nd38372> I hear jeopardy music
[08:21] <monkey050> I just said
[08:22] <frogzoo> aldwin: that was meant factiously
[08:22] <monkey050> Hold on - I'm going back to recovery console and I"m going to try to use the mount command.
[08:22] <frogzoo> facetiously even
[08:22] <barata> aldwin: 
[08:22] <aldwin> frogzoo,i dont get it.
[08:22] <barata> so stupid
[08:22] <srf21c> aldwin:  Spend some time on wikipedia.   You're question is best answered there  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU
[08:22] <jb0nd38372> aldwin: My definition of GNU in that sense would have to be, Winders :P
[08:23] <ArwynH> i have heard some sonys don't boot anything other than the os it comes installed with... not sure how accurate that is though.
[08:23] <frogzoo> aldwin: nvm, geek humour can be a little opaque
[08:23] <monkey050> Not accurate at all evidently.
[08:23] <srf21c> fly_molo:  any luck?  I'm about ready to check out.
[08:23] <barata> damned! where does ubuntu place httpd?
[08:23] <monkey050> I was able to use the LiveCD of 5.10.
[08:23] <monkey050> But this is an OLD Sony.
[08:23] <arrenlex> aldwin: That was a joke. GNU does not mean "generally not useable". GNU stands for GNU's Not Unix. That's it. There's nothing more to it.
[08:23] <monkey050> I'm typing on a New Sony now.  lol
[08:24] <monkey050> OK I have my command line.  I'm going to mount /dev/hda1
[08:24] <ArwynH> heh. ok, i stand corrected. :)
[08:24] <diskus> Is it possible nowadays to make desktop size bigger than physical display?
[08:24] <monkey050> Ummmm I can't use spacebar.
[08:24] <monkey050> Do I have to do it in GRUB?
[08:24] <monkey050> OK.
[08:24] <HymnToLife> if you want to edit entries, yes
[08:24] <HymnToLife> otherwise, no
[08:24] <monkey050> I just typed mount on its own
[08:24] <monkey050> Mount returned the following:
[08:25] <monkey050> none on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
[08:25] <monkey050> none on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
[08:25] <monkey050> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[08:25] <HymnToLife> monkey050, what do you want to do ?
[08:25] <monkey050> i want to boot the darn thing.  lol
[08:25] <barata> where on earth is my httpd?
[08:25] <frogzoo> monkey050: let me put it straight - you have buckleys of fixing this & it will be very frustrating for you to try
[08:25] <HymnToLife> mount alone will just tell you what is currently mounted and where
[08:25] <foo> uh, I mv'd the apache2 dir in /etc after I uninstalled apache with --purge ... and I reinstall apache, and the dir doesn't come back with configs. Any ideas?
[08:26] <monkey050> Ok
[08:26] <jb0nd38372> diskus: Have you seen beryl by chance?  Its not stable yet, but it does what your asking about and much more.. lotsa eye candy, nothing really productive, course i'm not considered productive, thats why I am messing with it :P
[08:26] <monkey050> So how would I go about disabling a CD device upon reinstallation if I reinstall in the other computer again?
[08:26] <frogzoo> monkey050: maybe borrow a cd to do the install
[08:27] <monkey050> I have the CD.
[08:27] <monkey050> I don't have a functioning DRIVE in the computer I want to install on!
[08:27] <diskus> jb0nd38372: no beryl/XGL is different thing :P
[08:27] <frogzoo> monkey050: the cd shouldn't cause you problems if it's missing - what are the other h/w differences between the 2 ?
[08:27] <L0cKd0wN> hey guys, my dad has 56k
[08:27] <L0cKd0wN> can he use ubuntu?
[08:27] <diskus> jb0nd38372: what I want is to have screen size like 2048x1024 for example but physical resolution 800x600
[08:27] <frogzoo> monkey050: for instance, is one amd, the other intel?
[08:27] <monkey050> Absolutely not.
[08:27] <monkey050> I don't know any Dells that are AMD.
[08:27] <ThePub> L0cKd0wN: internet connection speed does not determine you're ability to run a linux.
[08:27] <jb0nd38372> diskus: Ahh sorry, thought you meant something like the desktop plane feature where you can scroll to different desktops, my bad
[08:28] <monkey050> And I also don't know any Sonys that are AMD.
[08:28] <srf21c> LockDown:  He can, but I would recommend setting up a local software repository or he'll probably grow old and die before he can install all his software.
[08:28] <L0cKd0wN> i mean
[08:28] <monkey050> I do know that neither are AMD and that there aren't any other major differences.
[08:28] <ThePub> L0cKd0wN: But like anything, on a slower connection package updates will take longer.
[08:28] <L0cKd0wN> is it posibble to get an internet connection ?
[08:28] <ThePub> L0cKd0wN: of course.
[08:28] <srf21c> Software installation works much better over broadband.
[08:28] <frogzoo> monkey050: so they're both intel with only one hard drive (and an extra cdr on one)
[08:28] <ArwynH> frogzoo: with 6.10 it should be using the generic kernel anyway, so it should run on both, right?
[08:28] <jb0nd38372> diskus: hmmm interesting idea... googling that.. :)
[08:28] <digitalsatori> I'm learning Plone, I would like to upload a document instead of typing the content,but I can't find the upload document link where it stated in the plone book. Help pls.
[08:28] <L0cKd0wN> he has to use windows software they give him
[08:28] <monkey050> They're both Intel all-around, ATI graphics, but one doesn't have a working cd drive.
[08:28] <monkey050> Correct.
[08:28] <monkey050> Laptops.
[08:28] <frogzoo> ArwynH: I'm trying to figure out why it's not working, when it should
[08:28] <srf21c> Lockdown:  Many windows apps can run under linux via Wine.
[08:28] <monkey050> Ok.
[08:29] <diskus> jb0nd38372: it was possible to do that like 6-7 years ago when I used it
[08:29] <L0cKd0wN> he has to use software that he downloads, then installs
[08:29] <srf21c> If he sports $40 or so for Crossover, he can run most major windows apps no problem.
[08:29] <ThePub> L0cKd0wN: if it's some form of company vpn connection or something, why bother running Linux?
[08:29] <L0cKd0wN> i think he'd like it
[08:29] <frogzoo> monkey050: in that case, it may be that the problem's not in swapping over the HD, but that ubuntu won't run on this laptop's old h/w
[08:29] <monkey050> I'm in GRUB now - what happenes if I edited the kernel boot line from /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdc2 ro single and replace the HDC2 with HDC1?
[08:29] <srf21c> http://www.codeweavers.com/
[08:29] <ThePub> L0cKd0wN: There's no advantage to running Linux if Windows has everything you need and works.
[08:29] <monkey050> It meets requirements.
[08:30] <monkey050> Even if minimum.
[08:30] <L0cKd0wN> hmmm
[08:30] <jb0nd38372> diskus: Ahh, well i'm by no means seasoned any any form of linux... windows spoiled me for many years, but when I gave up gaming I started in ubuntu, i'm not start, but i'm determined :)
[08:30] <srf21c> I would disagree with ThePub about that.
[08:30] <frogzoo> monkey050: but the chipsets might not actually work
[08:30] <L0cKd0wN> what if i brought my ubuntu box home
[08:30] <srf21c> For one, there are no license keys for fees to worry about with Ubuntu.
[08:30] <ArwynH> monkey050: ! replace hdc2 with hada2
[08:30] <monkey050> Oh.
[08:30] <L0cKd0wN> what if i brought my ubuntu box home, (for christmas)
[08:30] <ArwynH> monkey050: hda2
[08:30] <ThePub> srf21c: you're welcome to, but like the cliche statement goes:  "if it ain't broke don't fix it!"  :)
[08:31] <monkey050> ArwynH, that's in the kernel part of the boot line thing - that's safe to edit to, right?
[08:31] <L0cKd0wN> could i get updates lol
[08:31] <diskus> jb0nd38372: well I'm still gamer, but that doesn't mean I have to move 100% to Linux :P
[08:31] <cmt^^> how do you guys change file-associations in ubuntu edgy?
[08:31] <monkey050> I edited it, so I'll try to boot now
[08:31] <ArwynH> monkey050: yes, change all hdc? to hda?
[08:31] <srf21c> ThePub;  Absolutely.   I guess it begs the question of why LockDown wants to have his Dad run linux then.
[08:31] <monkey050> Ok
[08:31] <arrenlex> ThePub: I disagree. Windows had everything I needed but I wouldn't go back to it for anything because Linux is so different. There's a community that cares about the operating system, there's a concept of freedom, it's powerful and customisable, and it's so easy to give something back... it's wonderful. Windows has nothing that comes close.
[08:31] <monkey050> And I switched 2 to 1.
[08:31] <ArwynH> monkey050: no, don't switch the numbers
[08:31] <monkey050> Ok
[08:32] <srf21c> cmt:  You should be able to right click the file in the file manager, select properties.
[08:32] <ArwynH> monkey050: just the letter
[08:32] <ThePub> arrenlex: and do you run your linux box on a company connection that supposedly needs to run windows-based software provided by that company? :)
[08:32] <ArwynH> monkey050: and it _should_ boot.
[08:32] <monkey050> OK.
[08:32] <monkey050> I'll try it now
[08:32] <jb0nd38372> diskus: Well I admit I play world of warcraft still, but wine is doing an excellent job of running that.. and WHEN I can keep beryl from crashing my friends that use windows freak out when I cube the display and rotate wow full screen.. I'm too old to be showing off.. ugh
[08:32] <arrenlex> ThePub: No. I'm just disagreeing with your general statement.
[08:32] <monkey050> It's making more information!
[08:32] <monkey050> I THINK IT'S WORKING!
[08:32] <srf21c> Then Then click on the "open with" tab.
[08:32] <monkey050> It's starting stuff!
[08:32] <monkey050> Configuring network blabhlabh
[08:32] <frogzoo> monkey050: oh congrats
[08:33] <monkey050> Setting up console font and keymap...
[08:33] <ArwynH> monkey050: not so fast. you'll need to modify grub and the fstab to get things to work properly.
[08:33] <monkey050> OOPS.  I did it in Recovery Mode.  LOL
[08:33] <monkey050> It gave me the regular recovery command line.
[08:33] <ArwynH> monkey050: from here on it's know territory :)
[08:33] <ThePub> arrenlex: I didn't make a general statement.  it was a statement specific to this situation.  unless his dad is a professional, familar with the ins-and-outs of Linux, and cares to deal with the ups and downs of trying to mesh into a Windows network, then it will definitely not be worth the trouble.
[08:33] <lubix> msg chanserv
[08:33] <ArwynH> monkey050: don't worry.
[08:33] <ArwynH> monkey050: recovery mode is better
[08:33] <ThePub> arrenlex: it's an application of not-so-common, common sense.
[08:33] <monkey050> I'll make the switch on the regular boot
[08:33] <monkey050> Really?
[08:34] <ArwynH> monkey050: it won't work yet.
[08:34] <monkey050> Ok so it says root@Pau-UBUNTU:~#
[08:34] <monkey050> oops, Paul, not Pau
[08:34] <monkey050> That's my name.  ^_^
[08:34] <monkey050> So what do I type now?
[08:34] <srf21c> Lockdown:  Did you check out codeweavers?  If you decide to run Ubuntu, that will probably be well worth the investment for your Dad.
[08:34] <ThePub> arrenlex: if it were a general statement I'd be a hypocrite since, like you, my XP box has worked without fail for years :)
[08:35] <cmt^^> srf21c - I did, but as a regular user I can't do anything with that
[08:35] <monkey050> I want the GUI now, not the silly blinky line.
[08:35] <ArwynH> monkey050: nano /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:35] <monkey050> K
[08:35] <cmt^^> srf21c - and as root any changes I make won't matter to the regular user
[08:35] <frogzoo> ThePub: if you haven't had xp trouble, you haven't used it much :)
[08:35] <glick> its a shame how many people there are that still havent even heard about ubuntu
[08:35] <monkey050> I can't use spacebar still.
[08:35] <ArwynH> monkey050: we have to change the references to your hard drives.
[08:35] <glick> even engineers where i work havent heard of it
[08:35] <ArwynH> monkey050: eh? no spacebar?
[08:35] <ThePub> frogzoo: maybe you're using it wrong? :)
[08:35] <monkey050> Not in Recovery Console or GRUB lines.
[08:36] <srf21c> cmt:  Where is the file located?  Are you sure you have permissions to modify it in the first place?  If not, you made have to grant permissions to user your account from the command line using sudo chmod/chown first.
[08:36] <monkey050> What if I just use "nano"
[08:36] <frogzoo> ThePub: nope, doesn't do what it says on the can
[08:36] <ArwynH> monkey050: erm... try regular boot then.
[08:36] <ThePub> frogzoo: neither does Ubuntu ;)
[08:36] <monkey050> Wait, what if i tried nano and it gave me some kind of further instruction?
[08:36] <ArwynH> monkey050: nano is an editor.
[08:36] <monkey050> Ok.  Then i'll just Ctrl Alt Del
[08:37] <monkey050> Now it's stopping all the happy stuff.  "Will Now Restart"
[08:37] <srf21c> cmt:  are you signed in as your regular user account right now?
[08:37] <monkey050> Silly computers.
[08:37] <monkey050> OK.
[08:37] <monkey050> Here is what the new kernel line reads on the regular boot:
[08:37] <jb0nd38372> diskus: I found a post, is this what your talking about specifically? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58832  (scroll to the second post)
[08:38] <ThePub> frogzoo: There are far more rough edges in Ubuntu than XP from a desktop perspective.  Windows at least works on a fresh install on this machine, but Ubuntu has a hairy habit of randomly crashing (I know why, and I know how to solve it, but it's not user-friendly)
[08:38] <monkey050> "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash"
[08:38] <cmt^^> srf21c - sure am
[08:38] <monkey050> Do I try it now?
[08:38] <monkey050> Wait...
[08:38] <ArwynH> monkey050: yes. should be ok.
[08:38] <cmt^^> and ownership settings for the home-dir are correct
[08:38] <monkey050> Should root be (hd0,1)
[08:38] <ArwynH> monkey050: doesn't matter. /dev/hda2 will work
[08:38] <HymnToLife> monkey050, bot notations work
[08:39] <monkey050> Ok.  Time to press B!
[08:39] <monkey050> Staring Up...
[08:39] <monkey050> Ubuntu Logo....
[08:39] <monkey050> THE BAR IS ALIVE!
[08:39] <monkey050> WOOOO!
[08:39] <monkey050> Now to wait.
[08:39] <monkey050> Half way almost.
[08:39] <monkey050> 3/4
[08:39] <monkey050> bland screen...
[08:39] <srf21c> cmt:  so the file is in your homedir?
[08:39] <monkey050> DESKTOP!
[08:39] <monkey050> Logon screen!
[08:40] <canine_kouji> an advanced question about the ubuntu installer. Is there a way to have X NOT load?
[08:40] <monkey050> SUCCESS!
[08:40] <canine_kouji> and I don't want the minimal iso
[08:40] <canine_kouji> I want the desktop iso
[08:40] <cmt^^> srf21c - yep
[08:40] <srf21c> You can open the properties of the files via the gui, and get to the display tab?
[08:40] <jb0nd38372> monkey050: Great play by play, I can almost hear you typing in your user / pass :P
[08:40] <canine_kouji> the nvidia driver is freezing my machine
[08:40] <monkey050> Logging on...
[08:40] <monkey050> Logon sound...
[08:40] <monkey050> Desktop loading...
[08:40] <monkey050> Brown BG...
[08:40] <canine_kouji> the 6600GT 256MB card just makes it lock up when X starts loading
[08:40] <monkey050> And it's up.
[08:40] <canine_kouji> then its.. nothing, no keyboard, no mouse
[08:40] <monkey050> Score one for the Ubuntu guys!
[08:40] <arrenlex> canine_kouji: The alternative ISO is not "minimal", it's exactly the same CD except without X starting, just as you want. However, you might try safe graphics mode.
[08:40] <monkey050> You.  Are.  Awesome.
[08:41] <canine_kouji> arrenlex: tried that
[08:41] <monkey050> See?  It wasn't hopeless after all!
[08:41] <srf21c> canine:  try jamming the CTRL-ALT-BKSP key sequence several times when the gui loads..
[08:41] <canine_kouji> arrenlex: is there another way without downloading a new iso?
[08:41] <monkey050> I am so happy.
[08:41] <srf21c> sometimes that will drop you to a termninal
[08:41] <ArwynH> monkey050: if you don't want to keep changing things at boot, edit /boot/grub/menu.list and change all references of /dev/hdc2 to /dev/hda2
[08:41] <monkey050> Ok
[08:41] <monkey050> So it doesn't keep the settings in GRUB that I edited?
[08:42] <HymnToLife> actually, it's "menu.lst", not "list" ;)
[08:42] <arrenlex> canine_kouji: I haven't messed with the discs much, so I dunno.
[08:42] <cmt^^> srf21c - thought the CTRL+ALT+BKSP was for me 8)
[08:42] <monkey050> ok
[08:42] <ArwynH> HymnToLife: >_>
[08:42] <srf21c> cmt:  doh!
[08:42] <canine_kouji> mm
[08:42] <canine_kouji> there is an idea actually
[08:42] <monkey050> I was wondering about that, HymnToLife.
[08:42] <arrenlex> HymnToLife: By the same brilliant logic that makes the unmount command "umount" and thus completely unintuitive and impossible to guess.
[08:42] <monkey050> a 4 letter extension sounded weird.
[08:42] <canine_kouji> I could try repeatedly using alt-ctrl-bcksp
[08:42] <HymnToLife> monkey050, nope, each time GRUB starts, settings are loaded from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:42] <monkey050> Cool.
[08:42] <canine_kouji> after 5 attempts or so it chokes
[08:42] <HymnToLife> arrenlex, agreed but that's the way it is
[08:42] <monkey050> I'll try that later.  At least I know what to do.
[08:43] <HymnToLife> just make your own distro with the file named menu.list ;)
[08:43] <monkey050> LOL!
[08:43] <monkey050> Ok.
[08:43] <ArwynH> monkey050: >3 letter extensions are common place in the unix world. :)
[08:43] <monkey050> Ah
[08:43] <monkey050> Ok
[08:43] <canine_kouji> I'd hate to ruin this new machien with windows xp
[08:43] <frogzoo> monkey050: you should also set groot properly in menu.lst, & check your devices.map - so it doesn't break on a future kernel upgrade
[08:43] <canine_kouji> core2 duo 2.4Ghz with 2 gig ram and 2 500GB WD enterprise drives :)
[08:43] <canine_kouji> a whole terrabyte
[08:43] <monkey050> I'll keep that in mind, but I'm pretty much a noob.
[08:44] <monkey050> I wouldn't know what to do with devices.map unless it was easy to read when i see it.
[08:44] <monkey050> Now, I can make a shortcut to the PPPoE thing on there, right?
[08:44] <glick> great firefox crashes again
[08:44] <monkey050> I managed to make PPPoE work on a Live CD of 5.10.
[08:44] <ThePub> glick: epiphany is your friend anyhow :D
[08:44] <monkey050> I just did a lot of looking around.  I was happy.
[08:45] <monkey050> I'm taking you guys' names down for future references.  Now I know who to talk to.
[08:45] <monkey050> You're awesome.
[08:45] <monkey050> Now, I do that GRUB editing in the terminal, right?
[08:45] <HymnToLife> not necessarily
[08:45] <monkey050> Where?
[08:46] <HymnToLife> you can do it in whichever text editor you like
[08:46] <monkey050> Oh right.  One of those.  lol
[08:46] <monkey050> Ok
[08:46] <fallingdutch> i have straces svn and when using hostname svn trys to connecto to port 0 but when using ip it trys to connect to port 3690 as supposed (ubuntu 6.10 amd64) can anyone proof that?
[08:46] <monkey050> Now, if I plug in my USB key will it recognize it or not?
[08:46] <srf21c> cmt:  If you know how to add a VNC host I could take a look see.  Feel like we're stuck on this one.
[08:46] <HymnToLife> monkey050, keyboard or USB memory stick ?
[08:47] <monkey050> USB sti..... POPUP!
[08:47] <ArwynH> open terminal and type, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit the grub file.
[08:47] <monkey050> It worked!
[08:47] <srf21c> anyone know of a command line video joiner tools for linux?   Need to patch together some pr0n, er uh, "video" files.  ;)
[08:47] <HymnToLife> lol I remember all the trouble I had to go through in FreeBSD to do just that
[08:47] <hive> Hey folks :)  Just a question, not really ubuntu-specific, but I figure someone here might be able to point me in the right direction..  Can somebody reccomend to me a pay-VPN service?  Something that will encapsulate all of my traffic...  I am currently using the free VPN at SecureIX, but I'd like something with consistent speeds and I don't mind paying for it.. Can someone point me in the right direction? :-)
[08:47] <monkey050> LOL.  Hymn, Ubuntu beat you to the answer!
[08:47] <diskus> jb0nd38372: naah, I have 19" monitor but I need more desktop area, and I remember that I tried somekind of virtual thing in the XFree86 abot 5 years ago, just trying to figure out if there is such a thing in X.org
[08:48] <monkey050> Now I want to active my corrupt windows partition so I can take a looksee at the files.  How how how?
[08:48] <HymnToLife> monkey050, you don't want to
[08:48] <monkey050> I read it a minute (hours) ago.  I vaguely remember already.
[08:48] <srf21c> hive:  If you're looking for privacy you can try metropipe.  Kinda off topic though
[08:48] <HymnToLife> mounting a corrupted partition can result in huge data loss
[08:48] <monkey050> I meant... the partition's not bad.
[08:48] <monkey050> Windows itself screwed up in a chkdsk.
[08:48] <jb0nd38372> diskus: ok, i'll keep looking,. i'm just sitting here in the channel anyway, trying to learn tips and tricks for when I mess something up, and i'm sure i will sooner or later :)
[08:48] <monkey050> So you can imagine why I put ubuntu on that laptop.
[08:49] <twb> fabbione: you are using the pxelinux.0 that ships with syslinux 3.11-3ubuntu2?
[08:49] <monkey050> The harddrive is completely good.
[08:49] <hive> srf21c: Thank you man.. I'll google it :^)
[08:49] <monkey050> If I wanted, I could have erased windows, but I know there's leftover files that chkdsk managed to NOT delete somehow.
[08:49] <monkey050> An old outtake of my band that broke up that makes me cry too.
[08:49] <monkey050> Friend came over and we found it using Knoppix.
[08:49] <monkey050> I want to listen to it again.
[08:49] <monkey050> I know the partitions are good.
[08:49] <monkey050> I meant Windows itself messed up.
[08:50] <srf21c> also anonyimizer has an ssh tunneling service.  But I wouldn't trust routing my traffic through any company located in the states these days.
[08:50] <diskus> jb0nd38372: no need, I think I found
[08:50] <monkey050> It's in System Admin right?
[08:50] <arrenlex> srf21c: apt-cache search join listed avifile-utils, which looks promising. However, those kinds of "videos" are usually mpeg, and apt-cache search join mpeg listed mpgtx, which also looks likely.
[08:50] <diskus> jb0nd38372: it's Virtual keyword in xorg.oconf
[08:50] <arrenlex> srf21c: In any case, apt-cache search is your friend. :)
[08:50] <molba> hy boys 'n' girls!
[08:50] <arrenlex> !hi
[08:50] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:50] <monkey050> And how come I only see 2 workspaces?
[08:50] <monkey050> No matter, I want to get to my Windows stuff.
[08:50] <srf21c> thanks arrenlex.   You know what would really be cool is a command line tool that converts wmw (windows media) files to a more usable format, like avi.
[08:51] <molba> :)
[08:51] <monkey050> Where do I activate my windows partition?
[08:51] <arrenlex> srf21c: There is one! mencoder -ovc lavc -oac lavc file.wmv -o file.avi =P
[08:51] <monkey050> To view in the browser thing?
[08:51] <jb0nd38372> diskus: ok, great, I think I may go have a look see, I'm having a minor issue with screen lock, and not recovering back to login screen (stays black) and ctrl-alt-bkspc does nothing..
[08:51] <frogzoo> !ntfs | monkey050
[08:51] <ubotu> monkey050: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:52] <arrenlex> srf21c: You will need mencoder and w32codecs for this.
[08:52] <Zober> Is there an svn system out there that does not require installation?  For example, if i want to host a repository on my site, but its a shared host with no shell privilages.
[08:52] <monkey050> Cool thanks.
[08:52] <srf21c> arrenlex:  rockin!  T'anks.  Already have w32codecs.  Will do some research on mencoder.
[08:52] <arrenlex> srf21c: apt-get install mencoder :)
[08:52] <arrenlex> srf21c: It's part of the venerable mplayer package. It can transcode from (but not to) any file mplayer can play.
[08:53] <monkey050> Alright, well I have to get to bed.
[08:53] <srf21c> you prefer apt-get over aptitude?  Been using aptitude mostly.  But found that apt-get tends to be more robust, when the going gets tough.
[08:53] <arrenlex> srf21c: That is, it's part of mplayer, not the package... the ubuntu devs separated them.
[08:53] <monkey050> You guys are great.  Thanks!
[08:53] <srf21c> I have mplayer installed.
[08:53] <glick> mmmm bedddd
[08:53] <glick> i still have to pack :/
[08:53] <monkey050> Lol.  Goodnight.
[08:53] <glick> and im beat
[08:54] <Commander-Crowe> http://pastebin.ca/278648
[08:54] <twb> fabbione: with 3.11-3ubuntu2, I get `unknown thingamy' for the GFXBOOT and GFXBOOT-BACKGROUND entries.
[08:54] <Commander-Crowe> I get that error om boot up
[08:54] <Commander-Crowe> on*
[08:54] <arrenlex> srf21c: I can't stand aptitude because it goes through "Reading extended state information", "Initializing package states... Done", and "Reading task descriptions... Done" every time, which slows it down.
[08:54] <uMISTA> whts the openssh client command
[08:54] <uMISTA> ?
[08:55] <arrenlex> srf21c: And it also offers completely random solutions whenever it doesn't like something, which typically consist of removing a dozen unrelated packages and do not solve the problem I was having, which annoys me incredibly.
[08:55] <srf21c> arrenlex:  Don't mince words.  Tell me how you *really* feel about aptitude.  :-B
[08:55] <arrenlex> srf21c: !language won't let me. :(
[08:55] <arrenlex> srf21c: Nah... it's not bad. Useful for its -t switch.
[08:56] <srf21c> cracking me up.   I had read several places about how aptitude supposedly had superior dependency handling capabilities.
[08:56] <glick> hey is there anyway to read dvds on the commandline?
[08:56] <arrenlex> srf21c: Those "capabilities" are essentially that it also installs recommended packages, rather than pure dependencies, so it fills your system with total crap you don't need.
[08:56] <glick> umm thats not what i meant
[08:56] <glick> i meant is there anyway to view pdfs on the commandline
[08:57] <twb> fabbione: OK, usplash comes up OK; I was just missing the `splash' kernel argument.
[08:57] <srf21c> arrenlex:   Ahh....that's the first I've heard of that issue.  Interesting..
[08:57] <Commander-Crowe> how do i edit /etc/fstab to revert away from uuid namings?
[08:57] <twb> I'd still like to get the GFXBOOT keyword working.
[08:57] <arrenlex> glick: "pdftotext" will extract the text from the pdf. Is this what you want?
[08:57] <cmt^^> srf21c - ok i've gotten it set up now
[08:57] <arrenlex> glick: "extract" -> "show" I guess, for clarity.
[08:58] <arrenlex> srf21c: It's not a bug, it's a feature. ;)
[08:58] <glick> arrenlex, just a commandline pdf reader
[08:58] <arrenlex> srf21c: Seriously, it's intentional.
[08:58] <glick> viewer
[08:58] <arrenlex> glick: I don't see how anything past extracting text is possible on a command line.
[08:59] <srf21c> arrenlex: Assuming everyone you say is true, what's the point of using aptitude at all?
[08:59] <srf21c> cmd:  be with you in a sec.
[08:59] <srf21c> er, cmt rather.  I'm a krappy typist.
[08:59] <srf21c> arrenlex:  "Assuming every*thing* you say is true"...my its getting late...
[09:00] <arrenlex> srf21c: Previously, because it kept track of what packages were installed as dependencies, so if you installed "foobar" and this also had to install "libfoobar" and "libsithblob-dev" and whatever, if you removed "foobar" with aptitude it would also remove libfoobar and libsithblob-dev. Apt wouldn't; you'd have to write it down somewhere or try to remember or just leave them there.
[09:00] <arrenlex> srf21c: But ubuntu's apt-get now keeps track of that via the "autoremove" feature.
[09:00] <arrenlex> srf21c: So what the point is NOW, I donut know.
[09:00] <srf21c> which reminds me, is there any decent speech recognition software for Ubuntu?  Want to get my inverse Stephen-Hawking on..
[09:00] <glick> arrenlex, yeah i guess your right
[09:00] <arrenlex> you;re
[09:00] <arrenlex> you're
[09:00] <arrenlex> xD
[09:01] <sc4ttrbrain> apt-get autoremove should do that imo :)
[09:01] <arrenlex> sc4ttrbrain: Yes, it does, as I was telling him.
[09:01] <sc4ttrbrain> oops
[09:01] <lovloss> Does Ubuntu have access to this "glib" file Ajunta IDE wants me to get? I seem to remember screwing up last time
[09:01] <srf21c> arrenlex:  When was apt-get updated to keep track of "autoremove" feature?  Last 6 months?
[09:01] <arrenlex> srf21c: I've been looking for such an application but I've yet to find one that works. Let me know.
[09:01] <frogzoo> srf21c: dragontalk can run under wine...
[09:02] <srf21c> What does this mean for the future of aptitude?
[09:02] <arrenlex> srf21c: I noticed it around the time edgy came out...
[09:02] <arrenlex> srf21c: But then I went back to debian because I hate ubuntu, and debian's doesn't have that. =(
[09:02] <arrenlex> srf21c: So it was back to the text file into which I paste things. xD
[09:02] <srf21c> frogzoo:  I have an old copy of Dragon Naturally Speaking...
[09:03] <frogzoo> !appdb | srf21c
[09:03] <ubotu> srf21c: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:03] <lovloss> WHat packages should i get if im looking to work in c and c++? I looked up glib in apt-cache and found LOTS of libraries
[09:03] <mm2000> Hello our server at work suddenly just freezes, resulting that we have to push on the "mum-button", everything just stops, including samba and ssh, Any idea what i can monitor to find out what the problem is?
[09:03] <frogzoo> lovloss: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' & done & done
[09:04] <arrenlex> lovloss: Just to compile? Or an entire IDE?
[09:04] <srf21c> arrenlex:  You hate Ubuntu, and you're hanging out on the #ubuntu IRC channel.   ???!!!
[09:04] <diskus> srf21c: tried http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/ already?
[09:04] <lovloss> arrenlex: im just trying to make Ajunta work :P
[09:04] <arrenlex> srf21c: Yes, to help people :)
[09:04] <arrenlex> srf21c: The #debian channel is full of arrogant jerks. I hate it there.
[09:04] <lovloss> frogzoo, i already have build essential
[09:05] <srf21c> discuss:  never heard of festival, thanks for the link.
[09:05] <arrenlex> lovloss: A junta? apt-get install pinochet =P what is ajunta? I've never heard of it.
[09:05] <arrenlex> srf21c: festival is text-to-speech IIRC.
[09:05] <diskus> srf21c: as far as I know it's very old, probably mature now
[09:05] <srf21c> arrenlex:  sounds reasonable.
[09:05] <frogzoo> lovloss: mebbe try 'apt-get source ajunta' ?
[09:05] <lovloss> couldnt find pinochet. Ajunta is a c/c++ IDE that comes in ubuntu's repositories. it asks for a "glib" file
[09:06] <srf21c> I'll be sure to use festival to make some pranks calls.  Thanks fellas. ;)
[09:06] <lovloss> frogzoo: i do have anjuta, its just not working
[09:06] <srf21c> cmt:  still there?
[09:06] <Pablo> where is this now? --> .In the file /etc/hotplug.usb.usermap
[09:06] <arrenlex> lovloss: Pinochet as a joke... chilean dictator... set up a junta... nevermind. xD
[09:06] <Pablo> I need to edit that file but i do not have
[09:06] <lovloss> lol
[09:06] <lovloss> Anjunta, its called
[09:06] <arrenlex> srf21c: Better hurry, skype's free calling in US&Canada ends soon!!
[09:07] <arrenlex> lovloss: You probably need libglib2.0-0
[09:07] <arrenlex> lovloss: And maybe libglib2.0-dev
[09:07] <srf21c> haha.   I know that's a bummer.  Maybe google dial will fill it's shoes.
[09:08] <lovloss> seems i had that
[09:08] <arrenlex> srf21c: I think google dial is something else... for small businesses, is it not?
[09:08] <arrenlex> lovloss: No? Maybe libglibmm-2.4-dev?
[09:09] <glick> anyone know of a good iptables tutorial?
[09:09] <lovloss> hah, now its asking for even more files. what a tedious little IDE
[09:10] <maggie> does anyone know where the config file for inetd resides?
[09:10] <srf21c> so looks like older versions of dragon naturally speaking are reasonably well supported under Wine.
[09:11] <maggie> most distros i can find it in /etc/inetd.conf i can't seem to locate it in ubuntu though
[09:11] <srf21c> maggie:  /etc/inetd.conf
[09:11] <srf21c> maybe you have to create a new one?
[09:11] <srf21c> mine is blank.
[09:11] <lovloss> seriously, is there *any* good graphical c/c++ program that ubuntu can easily run? Or do i just have to download a kazillion libraries
[09:11] <frogzoo> maggie: it's not there?
[09:12] <srf21c> try man update-inetd
[09:12] <maggie> frogzoo: no, i isn't there =(
[09:12] <arrenlex> lovloss: How about eclipse-cdt?
[09:12] <frogzoo> maggie: dapper or edgie?
[09:12] <somerville32> lovloss: Do you mean an IDE?
[09:12] <maggie> edgy
[09:12] <lovloss> okay im trying out eclipse... and yes, an IDE. you know, with a compile button :)
[09:12] <srf21c> arrenlex:  don't know much about google dial other than there are supposedly some called ID issues that could lead to abuse.
[09:13] <frogzoo> maggie: wierd, it's there for me - anyways, /etc/inetd.conf is the correct path
[09:13] <lovloss> otherwise i have to type the compile command and THEN the run command over and over as i test stuff
[09:13] <Kachingo> Howdy, I just got given a scsi controller & 3 discs. Two of the discs are identical and are mounted in removable enclosures that monitor voltage, mtbf, temperature etc. When I plug all the discs in and go into the scsi controller bios, the identical drives appear as one disc. I assume this means they are configured for raid, but how do I delete the raid, so I can use both discs seperately?
[09:13] <frogzoo> lovloss: make
[09:14] <lovloss> i tried make, it gave me wierd messages about the libraries :P
[09:14] <lovloss> it was like "no, hello.c does not exist"
[09:14] <frogzoo> Kachingo: there'll be a management app - maybe for doze only
[09:15] <Kachingo> frogzoo: doze?
[09:15] <lovloss> when an apt-get reccomends and suggests packages, should you install them, or no?
[09:15] <frogzoo> Kachingo: win+doze
[09:15] <arrenlex> lovloss: You don't need them. They're just suggestions for things you might find interesting\relevant.
[09:15] <lovloss> gotcha
[09:16] <frogzoo> lovloss: if you have the space, sure
[09:16] <lovloss> this eclipse thing is an IDE?
[09:16] <Kachingo> frogzoo: ah, I see
[09:16] <frogzoo> !eclipse
[09:16] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[09:16] <srf21c> alright everybody, I'm cashing out for tonight.  Appreciate all the help, esp: dabar and arrenlex.
[09:16] <lovloss> Java?
[09:16] <arrenlex> !eclipse-cde
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse-cde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <arrenlex> Oh, that's cdt.
[09:17] <arrenlex> !eclipse-cdt
[09:17] <ubotu> eclipse-cdt: C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.1-3 (edgy), package size 17049 kB, installed size 21896 kB
[09:17] <arrenlex> :)
[09:17] <lovloss> ahhh
[09:17] <frogzoo> !eclipse-perl
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse-perl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <frogzoo> :(
[09:17] <lovloss> neat :3
[09:17] <arrenlex> lovloss: eclipse itself is a java ide by nature.
[09:18] <lovloss> You see, im president of a cute little video gamed company and i only know how to make an adlib program.
[09:18] <lovloss> so... i better get trucking
[09:18] <luca__> hi everyone
[09:18] <arrenlex> Bonjour, Jirya. Tu oublie? #ubuntu-fr =P
[09:19] <luca__> does anyone have experience about how to change successfully the graphics driver?
[09:19] <arrenlex> luca__: If you've not messed with your x config, you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select a different driver.
[09:19] <lovloss> luca__: Beryl comes with the best driver ive ever had :)
[09:20] <lovloss> reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh is better
[09:20] <luca__> arrenlex, lovloss
[09:20] <arrenlex> luca__?
[09:21] <lovloss> luca__: ...?
[09:21] <arrenlex> Are we just saying random people's names for fun? xD
[09:21] <dope> what irc client do yall use
[09:21] <luca__> arrenlex, lovloss I have tried but the console says that the driver does not exist
[09:21] <luca__> dope konversation
[09:21] <lovloss> hmm
[09:21] <arrenlex> luca__: What driver is this?
[09:21] <dope> that's for kde isn't it
[09:21] <arrenlex> dope: Yes.
[09:21] <dope> what is gtk?
[09:22] <arrenlex> dope: A GUI toolkit.
[09:22] <Kachingo> would writing zeros to a hard drive destroy the raid configuration?
[09:22] <lovloss> Guys, i just installed this eclipse-cdt thing, but its not under my applications anywhere
[09:22] <luca__> arrenlex: i915 for intel
[09:22] <dope> so what would be the difference between bitchx and bitchx-gtk
[09:22] <luca__> dope gtk is the file manager substantially
[09:22] <Sub> Kachingo, depends if it is hardware or software RAID
[09:22] <Sub> hardware raid, no it wouldnt.
[09:22] <arrenlex> dope: It stands for "GIMP Toolkit", which in turn stands for "GNU Image Manipulation Program Toolkit" which in turn stands for "GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program Toolkit", ad infinitum. :)
[09:23] <luca__> dope without gtk you use the default file browser....which is gtk in any case under gnome :-P
[09:23] <dope> oh
[09:23] <dope> so i guess bitchx is fine then
[09:23] <arrenlex> luca__: The file manager?! What? o__O
[09:23] <Kachingo> sub: what is the difference?
[09:23] <arrenlex> luca__: Gnome's file manager happens to be written in gtk, but so what?
[09:23] <Sub> dope, basically bitchx-gtk is a GUI version of bitchx
[09:23] <arrenlex> Sub: Brilliant. XD
[09:24] <lovloss> arrenlex  how do you use eclipse? its not in my applications :<
[09:24] <dope> ok
[09:24] <rausb0> why use bitchX, when there is irssi :)
[09:24] <maggie> weird, i have inetd running as a process but no inetd.conf file... synaptic shows inetd as not being installed....
[09:24] <Sub> Kachingo, well a hardware raid uses a RAID controller card to setup the raid- software raid is when you have two harddrives but you are using software to make the RAID
[09:24] <dope> what's so good about irssi?
[09:24] <Sub> rausb0, bitchx is just a collection of scripts for irssi....
[09:24] <Sub> basically.
[09:24] <Sub> its irssi at the core of it.
[09:25] <arrenlex> lovloss: the "eclipse" command doesn't exist?
[09:25] <rausb0> dope: also text mode, but much better usability. completion for almost everything, better window handling, ..
[09:25] <lovloss> arrenlex: you mean it doesnt have a gui?
[09:25] <arrenlex> lovloss: Of course it does. XD
[09:25] <dope> how do i run the bitchx-gtk?
[09:25] <arrenlex> lovloss: Just trying to help you find it.
[09:25] <lovloss> arrenlex: i cant find it in the a... wait, do i need to install just 'eclipse' too?
[09:25] <matthewrevell> join #launchpad
[09:26] <arrenlex> lovloss: I don't know... I've never used eclipse with c++. Ask on #eclipse maybe, they're really good.
[09:26] <lovloss> thank you ^o^
[09:26] <Kachingo> sub: ah I see, yeah it's hardware. It has a controller card.
[09:26] <rausb0> Sub: no. bitchX has nothing to do with irssi. bitchX _was_ a script collection for irc ii, which was turned into C code.
[09:27] <Sub> Kachingo, it should be okay - but like anything, backup to be sure
[09:27] <Sub> rausb0, ahh okay.
[09:28] <rausb0> Sub: AFAIK irssi shares no code with irc ii
[09:28] <Kachingo> sub: well, actually I'm trying to get rid of the raid. I can't work out how
[09:28] <Sub> hmm, does apt-get not keep logs? only aptitude?
[09:29] <maggie> yeah, irssi and irc ii are not the same.
[09:29] <maggie> oh... and bitchx blows =(
[09:29] <luca> anyone knowing something about i915?
[09:29] <Sub> Kachingo, you tried like "sudo /etc/init.d/mdadm stop " ?
[09:29] <Sub> im not sure, i think you would need a reinstall.
[09:30] <ddj> @luca: i915 .... you mean the graphics chip??
[09:30] <Sub> depends on the raid setup too - raid 0 for example you cant really jus "get rid" of the raid without loosing all the data
[09:31] <frogzoo> why do people say dapper is more stable than edgy? for me, edgy fixed everything that was annoying me
[09:32] <arrenlex> frogzoo: For me, edgy felt a lot slower than dapper. And broke a lot of things I had grown used to, like mp3 support. It drove me back to debian.
[09:32] <frogzoo> arrenlex: kde ?
[09:32] <arrenlex> frogzoo: Yes.
[09:32] <Kachingo> sub: it's not raid0. I guess the second drive is a clone or parity or something
[09:32] <arrenlex> frogzoo: Is that a sin or something now?
[09:32] <ddj> @frogzoo: Edgy has some annoying "features" too :)
[09:33] <dope> what's the best rss feed reader?
[09:33] <frogzoo> arrenlex: the gnome ugprade to 2.16 has been nothing but positive, huge speed gains
[09:33] <arrenlex> frogzoo: The people on #gaim were like, you're on KDE?! Oh it's not a gaim problem then, crawl back to the kinfestedhole you crawled from infidel.
[09:34] <frogzoo> arrenlex: well ubuntu is principally developed for gnome
[09:34] <arrenlex> frogzoo: I'm used to kde. It has everything and I love that. :) And the GUI is pretty -- GTK always felt a little soft around the edges for me, whatever theme I used.
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> dope: Depends what kind of feel you like.  I ended up not being entirely comfortable with any that I found, and so installed Planet on Apache :X
[09:34] <SouthernGrey> Can anyone help me out, I run Drake on a virtual machine off of XP and have forgotten my password after not using it for awhile.  Can any1 help get back in?
[09:34] <arrenlex> frogzoo: I was running kubuntu, which is principally developed for kde.
[09:34] <cypher1> does anyone know how to enable "direct rendering" on ATI Rage ?
[09:34] <frogzoo> arrenlex: touche
[09:34] <arrenlex> !password | SouthernGrey
[09:34] <ubotu> SouthernGrey: Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> Wow.  That is an amazing factoid.
[09:35] <SouthernGrey> thanks friendly bot
[09:35] <cypher1> !thanks | SouthernGrey
[09:35] <ubotu> SouthernGrey: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:35] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: Yes it is, and hallo. Did "password" set off some sort of flag? xD
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: Nah, I'm always half-listening (/stalking)
[09:36] <arrenlex> *nod*
[09:36] <echosystm> guys, do you think its possible to make a computer silent?
[09:36] <echosystm> or
[09:36] <echosystm> like get it under 18dba at least
[09:36] <FreeNet> question SSL uses which port? is https and XXX.com:433 the same?
[09:36] <arrenlex> echosystm: Yes. Use a caseless setup.
[09:36] <echosystm> without water cooling of course
[09:36] <arrenlex> caseless -> fanless. Wow.
[09:36] <arrenlex> *tired*
[09:36] <echosystm> caseless?
[09:36] <echosystm> ahah
[09:37] <echosystm> yeah
[09:37] <echosystm> what im doing
[09:37] <cypher1> FredricR: do you mean ssh ?
[09:37] <tcli> FreeNet: 443, and yes
[09:37] <cypher1> FreeNet: do you mean ssh ? SSL is a protocol
[09:37] <echosystm> fanlesss psu, fanless video, harddrives mounted with rubber bands (lol) and a duct for the cpu fan
[09:37] <echosystm> so, only 1 fan
[09:37] <echosystm> should be ok right?
[09:37] <frogzoo> echosystm: you can run a fanless pc, or water cooling is very quiet
[09:37] <FreeNet> https is actually forwarded to port 433?
[09:37] <tcli> cypher: pretty sure he was talking about ssl encrypted web traffic
[09:38] <Albert> hello everybody
[09:38] <tcli> FreeNet: https://blah.com will go to port 443
[09:38] <tcli> not 433, 443 :P
[09:38] <nothlit> cypher1, so it http, doesn't mean it doesn't have a standard port
[09:38] <ddj> does anyone here experience their PS/2 keyboard freezing in Ubuntu 6.10 "Edgy" ??
[09:38] <FreeNet> what if i am using dynamic url forwarding?
[09:38] <nothlit> Can you get a certificate for that?
[09:39] <cypher1> nothlit: ssl with http will have a specific port..
[09:39] <nothlit> cypher1, that's what I just said
[09:39] <echosystm> can anyone recommend a fanless PSU? all i can find are these crap FSP ones and Thermaltake 350w which are no longer available in AU :(
[09:39] <tcli> FreeNet: like mod_rewrite? ...the web browser actually handles that, but if the url is https:// it'll go to 443, http:// it'll go to 80... if you need to force it, you need to take a port on the end
[09:39] <cypher1> nothlit: sorry did not understood
[09:40] <tcli> FreeNet: mismatching protocols will generally yield garbage, or an error though (e.g. http://bob.com:443 or https://bob.com:80
[09:40] <FreeNet> can anyone try accessing xquest.dyndns.biz
[09:40] <FreeNet> and try it's https
[09:40] <nothlit> tcli, i think he means dyndns/no-ip stuff
[09:42] <wikingz999> how to launh task manager from terminal?
[09:42] <nothlit> freebse, nothing.
[09:42] <nothlit> wikingz999, gnome-system-monitor
[09:42] <nothlit> wikingz999, or top/ ps aux
[09:43] <nothlit> FreeNet, ok it took a long time but it just asked me for a certificate and now it works
[09:43] <FreeNet> ok sorry guys... i have forwarded a wrong port on my router... i forwarded 433 instead of 443... mistake
[09:43] <FreeNet> now it's working
[09:43] <avis> far out man
[09:45] <abuyazan> hello all
[09:45] <arrenlex> !hi
[09:45] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:45] <tcli> FreeNet: I can connect just fine
[09:46] <tcli> FreeNet: default apache page, default certificate
[09:46] <hdibani> Feels good being on the Ubuntu channel
[09:46] <abuyazan> i need software to create CD cover to stick on the CD
[09:46] <hdibani> i asked a question on solaris channel
[09:46] <arrenlex> !glabels | abuyazan
[09:46] <ubotu> glabels: label, business card and media cover creation program for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1build1 (edgy), package size 328 kB, installed size 1012 kB
[09:46] <hdibani> 30 minutes but no answer
[09:46] <FreeNet> yes.. thanks for the test
[09:48] <Albert_> Hello, i have a problem with my cpu temp he is cold -116 ; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36963/ ; have you an idea ? thks
[09:49] <nothlit> lol thats impossible
[09:50] <abuyazan> yes it seems it is what i need
[09:50] <abuyazan> thanks all
[09:50] <hdibani> HAHAHA i would like to have that
[09:51] <uMISTA> i have to nic's one for lan and one connector to a internet router. how would i setup to the dhcp to go though the sec nix to internet router?
[09:52] <arrenlex> abuyazan: yw.
[09:53] <Kachingo> sub: the mouse and keyboard don't respond when I boot up with the drives connected
[09:53] <flasher222> how can i check whether my audio is set to also OR to oss?
[09:54] <arrenlex> flasher222: Your audio isn't "set to" anything -- applications themselves can choose which to use.
[09:54] <flasher222> arrenlex: oh
[09:54] <arrenlex> flasher222: Unless you've changed something in your setup, your audio is alsa with oss emulation.
[09:55] <flasher222> arrenlex: i ask because I'm using noteedit (a musical score editor) , and when i play back the score/sheet via timidity playback, it sounds bad
[09:55] <arrenlex> flasher222: "bad"?
[09:55] <avis> i've got a broken face
[09:55] <flasher222> arrenlex: like scratchy
[09:56] <arrenlex> flasher222: maybe you're just no mozart? =P
[09:56] <flasher222> arrenlex: no, i don't mean the piece as a whole.
[09:56] <flasher222> i'm talking about the audio quality
[09:56] <arrenlex> flasher222: Do normal midis play fine in timidity? Which instruments package are you using?
[09:56] <flasher222> arrenlex: well, yes, midis play fine with timidity.
[09:57] <arrenlex> flasher222: What's the difference between what plays fine and what plays scratchy?
[09:57] <flasher222> arrenlex: although i wish i do not see any messages which say "Will not play instrumnent XXX"
[09:57] <Kachingo> if I boot into ubuntu with only one of two raid drives connected, will the operationg system see it?
[09:57] <uMISTA> if i have eth0(dhcp server) has setting of gateway (which is pointed to eth1) would this work. (eth1 is connected to internet connection?)
[09:57] <flasher222> arrenlex: just to clarify. when I said "via timidity playback", i meant inside noteedit.
[09:57] <arrenlex> flasher222: ...I see.
[09:58] <flasher222> any midi i play in timidity itself (e.g. timidity foo.mid) is fine
[09:58] <arrenlex> flasher222: What happens if you "export" a midi from noteedit and play that midi in timidity? If that's possible?
[09:58] <flasher222> arrenlex: yes it is. it sounds fine
[09:59] <flasher222> i've exported only one voice (Tenor). I'll try exporting all voices
[09:59] <arrenlex> flasher222: Then I would be digging through the noteedit settings if I were you... I'm not familiar with any of the applications or theory involved, so I can't help you much.
[09:59] <flasher222> but while i try that, let me ask you a question. You asked me "Which instruments package are you using?" My question to you is: what options do i have? Which is the best?
[09:59] <arrenlex> flasher222: I've only used timidity for playing random Jethro Tull midis I've found.
[10:00] <arrenlex> flasher222: Uh... on ubuntu, AFAIK the only one is freepats, no? Software, I mean.
[10:00] <uMISTA> can i blind the dhcp server onto eth0 and not eth1?
[10:00] <flasher222> So you mean to ask me what instrument software package i'm using?
[10:00] <arrenlex> flasher222: Yes.
[10:00] <BlackHawk> hi
[10:01] <arrenlex> !hi
[10:01] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:01] <flasher222> um, i'm not sure i understand your question. maybe if you answer the question first, i'll understand.
[10:01] <arrenlex> flasher222: xD Nevermind. As I say, I'm not familiar with midis or how they work.
[10:01] <sushi_> Hey I want .ICO files to have thumbnails in Nautilus.  How is this possible?
[10:02] <flasher222> arrenlex: thanks
[10:03] <magic_ninja> i am having an azureus problem, but its a java error, i think i have 2 different java versions installed
[10:04] <arrenlex> magic_ninja: "a problem" and "I think it's an error" aren't very helpful... can you be more specific?
[10:05] <magic_ninja> arrenlex: yea, mainly just makin sure someone's here.
[10:05] <magic_ninja> arrenlex: I have a log file I can pm you, but not sure where its at, do you know where the JRE saved error logs
[10:05] <arrenlex> magic_ninja: There are 827 people in this channel. There are always people here.
[10:05] <arrenlex> magic_ninja: Not me, I have to go. :) Good luck, though.
[10:06] <wikingz999> please help!!! i Cant write small C - i have Compiz. I has define small C one time as shorCtut o Custom keybindings & now whatever Ii write as shorCtut keys, always 1. Command run after i press small C.
[10:06] <Mahmoud> hello, any software management tool to push software packages to all my Ubuntu clients one go instead of installin them one-by-one?
[10:06] <kishan> can any one help If I hibernate, it overwrites my swap and doesn't restore my session on the next boot. I then have to go through the steps of fixing my swap
[10:07] <Russel> hiho
[10:07] <Russel> i got a little problem here:
[10:07] <Russel> i use a livecd and chroot into my normal installation
[10:07] <Russel> but in the chroot i do not have a name resolving
[10:08] <Kachingo> Howdy, I have two scsi drives that only work when both are connected, and only appear as a single drive in the scsi controller bios. But they don't appear as a raid array, and it won't let me delete the raid, because it thinks the two discs actually are the same. When I boot into ubuntu with the discs connected, the mouse and keyboard don't work. What should I do to get these drives working independant of each other?
[10:08] <Russel> i copied the names from the resolv.conf of the livecd
[10:11] <leagris> Kachingo did you check it is not an SCSI chain terminator issue?
[10:11] <kishan> any one can help If I hibernate, it overwrites my swap and doesn't restore my session on the next boot. I then have to go through the steps of fixing my swap
[10:11] <magic_ninja> where does java store its error log files
[10:12] <ddj> @NINJA: Depends on the application .....   e.g. azureus puts them in ~/.azureus/
[10:13] <Wiseguy> hey guys whats the best gui CD/DVD burning app for .img and .iso's?
[10:13] <ddj> k3b
[10:14] <Wiseguy> does k3b support DVD's?
[10:14] <nothlit> if you want to stay within gnome applications you can choose gnomebaker or brasero
[10:14] <Kachingo> leagris: perhaps it is. I don't know a huge amount about scsi. How would I check that?
[10:15] <KenSentMe> I have updated profptd on my ubuntu dapper machine, but since that i get an error when restarting proftpd: IPv6 getaddrinfo 'marge2.lan' error: Name or service not known.I've read the README.debian file about adding '::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback your_host_name' and '::fff:A.B.C.D your_host_name'. The server restarts without error, but is unreachable through an ftp client. Anyone know a solution?
[10:15] <ddj> @NOTHLIT: yes it does ...  it actually depends if all the right tools are installed (cdrecord, dvd+rw tools, etc.)
[10:16] <nothlit> ddj, ehh k3b has the same dependencies?
[10:16] <ddj> @NOTHLIT: what do you mean with "same dependencies" ?
[10:17] <Wiseguy> ddj, do you know if k3b does DVD images as well?
[10:17] <nothlit> ddj, uses the same backends
[10:17] <leagris> Kachingo, an SCSI chain is a single channel(cable) starting from the SCSI card thouch te connected devices (disks) and ending with e terminator (line resistors). Either a terminator is plugged after the last disk in the chain or the last disk has a jumber enabling an internal terminator. You should check only the last disk get internal terminator enabled or neither but an external terminator
[10:18] <sushi_> Hey I want .ICO files to have thumbnails in Nautilus.  How is this possible?
[10:18] <ddj> @WISEGUY: I burn my DVD ISO's all the time with k3b so I am pretty sure the answer is "yes" :)
[10:19] <pfhomer> Yo! Now, I am probably a moron (with a computer science masters), but I can't seem to find the Ubuntu live cd????
[10:19] <avis> good morning
[10:19] <leagris> Kachingo, You should also check no devices in the chain get the same SCSI ID. Usually cards default to ID7. First disk may have ID1, next ID3. Order of IDs in the chain don't matter. Ensure none have the same ID.
[10:19] <avis> its on your bookshelf ;)
[10:19] <pfhomer> thanks!
[10:19] <pfhomer> :)
[10:20] <bigbro> pfhomer: It's probably just well hidden - like the mini.iso image :-)  Are you looking to download a copy? If so, just grab the default CD from ubuntu.com
[10:20] <pfhomer> avis, really... is the "normal" iso image also the live image, or...? Why isn't the ubuntu home page more clear about where to find the live cd?
[10:20] <bigbro> pfhomer: There is no longer a distinction between the live and install CD - one CD does both.
[10:20] <pfhomer> bigbro, ok!
[10:21] <bigbro> pfhomer: Grab the alternative CD installer ISO if your computer is old / has less than 256MB RAM (I know they say 192MB, but I had issues with less than about 256)
[10:21] <cwillu> I can't get any audio cd's to play;  sound juicer comes up, shows the track listings, but hangs with 100% cpu at 2 seconds, with no sound
[10:21] <pfhomer> bigbro, I have to boot from cd on a machine with a wrecked windows installation. I cant install anything to hd. I just want to boot on the cd, mount his hd, get the wireless network up and runnning (hopefully easy from the live cd), and then transfer all his important files to another machine over the net
[10:22] <avis> pfhomer, i'm not sure i use the altenate text based cd.  i was trying to track down a live cd url for you but they it seems apache under linux does not display entire filenames
[10:22] <cwillu> pfhomer: might want to look at knoppix;  it's designed a bit more for that usage
[10:22] <avis> pfhomer, you can look at www.ubuntu.com and check out download it
[10:22] <pfhomer> bigpro it is a laptop with a P4 3GHz and 512 MB RAM
[10:22] <nothlit> Anyone know what's the difference between the default entry in menu.lst and the default you set with grub-set-default?
[10:22] <bigbro> pfhomer: JUst grab the normal CD then - should do the job nicely
[10:22] <pfhomer> cwillu, sure, but knoppix is a damn dvd these days. a huge download
[10:23] <pfhomer> bigbro, cool, thanks
[10:23] <magic_ninja> ok i found the problem I think
[10:23] <infobash> why is finding codecs etc such a mission?
[10:23] <magic_ninja> I have 2 different versions of java....
[10:24] <avis> its not if you read the restricted formats wiki
[10:24] <magic_ninja> how do you remove one version of java without messing them both up
[10:24] <Infeliz> why here is 0 ops
[10:25] <infobash> avis: got a link
[10:25] <avis> Infeliz, they dont want people to think they are watching over the channel so they sneak up behind you and nab you when your misbehaving.
[10:25] <Kachingo> leagris: The chain has a terminator plugged at the end. Does having scsi drives of different standards (scsi2 & scsi3) connected on the same chain stuff it up?
[10:25] <cwillu> Infeliz: there are ops around, they're just not advertising themselves
[10:25] <Infeliz> okay
[10:26] <avis> the community contributed link on the default ubuntu start page should take you to a place you can find it
[10:26] <kraut> moin
[10:26] <leagris> Kachingo, it should not be a problem because the devices are bus compatible and the card talks either SCSI dialect to them.
[10:26] <ubox> hey all
[10:27] <ubox> anyone knows a good document for Rmail configuration?
[10:27] <cwillu> I can't play audio cd's, even though it looks like I can rip them;  it just hangs when I try to play;  help!
[10:27] <nothlit> !restricted
[10:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:27] <bigbro> pfhomer: np :)
[10:27] <bhudda> Where are application files installed to by default?
[10:28] <cwillu> nothlit: that wasn't for me was it?
[10:29] <Kachingo> leagris: Also, how does one set the ID? Because the two drives I'm having problems with have removable enclosures that monitor temp, fan, voltage, mtbf, etc. It also appears that you can set the scsi ID on the display of the enclosure. There is also a dial at the back of the enclosure that turns & is marked 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-A-B-C-D-E-F
[10:29] <nothlit> cwillu, nah
[10:29] <infobash> ubotu: cheers
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <ubox> Rmail configuration anyone?
[10:30] <ubox> !ramil
[10:30] <leagris> Kachingo, turn the dial at each enclosure to different IDs
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ramil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <ubox> !rmail
[10:30] <ubotu> rmail: MTA->UUCP remote mail handler. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 221 kB, installed size 344 kB
[10:30] <kimrhh> hi, having problems with cupsd on ubuntu-server... when trying to add printers over the web-interface, it starts generating SSL certs, but never finishes (from tail /var/log/cups/*) ... cups was installed with "apt-get install cupsys*", any ideas?
[10:30] <TiGZ> I have an error in ubuntu
[10:31] <TiGZ> It says when it boots up that it can't find taskman.exe in C:\Windows\
[10:31] <nothlit> !cups
[10:31] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:31] <nothlit> !windows | TiGZ
[10:31] <ubotu> TiGZ: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:32] <bhudda> Where does Ubuntu install it's application data by default?
[10:32] <deon> hello
[10:32] <magic_ninja> how do you remove java
[10:33] <kimrhh> nothlit: ehm, cups is working, SSL is the problem... not really found in a guide ?
[10:33] <nothlit> bhudda, /usr, but you don't need to mess around in that folder
[10:33] <bhudda> I just need to link to it. thanks!
[10:33] <deon> k i got a problem, when i login (sometimes) into gnome my window borders disappear and my start bar and workspace switcher also goes missing.
[10:34] <halorgium> evening
[10:34] <halorgium> i'm trying to boot from a usb stick
[10:34] <halorgium> i'm following the wiki instructions
[10:34] <gharz> guys, what's the equivalent command of defrag in linux?
[10:34] <halorgium> there isn't one
[10:34] <gharz> i want to defragment my hd
[10:34] <halorgium> you can do fsck
[10:35] <cwillu> gharz: shouldn't need to with most partition types
[10:35] <gharz> cwillu, ok...
[10:35] <gharz> thanks for the info.
[10:35] <nothlit> gharz, you don't need to for a year or two
[10:35] <halorgium> fsck isn't a "defrag"
[10:35] <echosystm> if youre using ext3 your filesystem wont really f*ck itself like a windows drive will gharz
[10:35] <echosystm> :)
[10:35] <nothlit> halorgium, there is but really linux filesystems are almost self defragging
[10:35] <Infeliz> u dont need defrag ext3/2 etc
[10:36] <halorgium> nothlit: i know :)
[10:36] <gharz> thanks for the info guys
[10:36] <cwillu> why do you suppose I can rip a cd, but I can't just play it?
[10:36] <halorgium> now, why doesn't my edgy usb disk not boot? :(
[10:36] <echosystm> no cdda support?
[10:36] <cwillu> elaborate?
[10:37] <nothlit> halorgium, you said there isn't one
[10:37] <echosystm> what prog are you using the play the cd?
[10:37] <cwillu> sound juicer, rhythm box, etc
[10:37] <halorgium> nothlit: oh, right. thought you were on about 'fsck isn't a defrag"
[10:37] <cwillu> I get a hang after about 2 seconds, no audio to begin with
[10:37] <echosystm> hmm ok
[10:38] <echosystm> i cant really help
[10:38] <Amelik> hello..  I need to configure a bridge on ubuntu... can someone help me?
[10:38] <Kachingo> leagris: Turning the dial does change the ID. However, the two drives still appear as one even when their ID's are different. There is also a thing on the digital display that says ID, but when I change it nothing happens
[10:38] <cwillu> tried a different cd, same thing
[10:38] <echosystm> but mp3s etc play ok?
[10:38] <cwillu> echosystm: yep
[10:38] <echosystm> weird
[10:38] <echosystm> i have no idea man, sorry
[10:38] <cwillu> :/
[10:40] <Kachingo> leagris: It detects only one drive, and displays it's ID. But if one of the drives is disconnected, neither works.
[10:41] <leagris> Kachingo, New IDs should appear after a bus reset (either system reset). If not the ID switchs may not be plugged to the disk inside the enclosure.
[10:42] <CyaNox> Where do I report broken packages for feisty? libapache2-mod-python is broken.
[10:42] <cwillu> CyaNox: what's wrong?
[10:42] <dsdg> whats better to install on a work pc, for production desktop, edgy or dapper?
[10:43] <CyaNox> well it refers to libapache2-mod-python2.4 which does not excist.
[10:43] <CyaNox> see also: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/feisty/python/libapache2-mod-python
[10:43] <cwillu> dsdg: I'd go with edgy if it works myself
[10:43] <Infeliz> edgy works well
[10:43] <dsdg> cool, thank you,
[10:43] <cwillu> dapper only if you're paranoid
[10:44] <cwillu> now, if only I could figure out how to play cd's
[10:44] <MisterE> what's new?
[10:45] <leagris> Kachingo, let's talk SCSI in private as it is not realy on topic here
[10:45] <MisterE> ooh no I love scsi talk
[10:45] <CyaNox> MisterE: libapache2-mod-python is broken for feisty ...
[10:45] <cwillu> CyaNox: what broke?
[10:45] <CyaNox> 10:43 < CyaNox> well it refers to libapache2-mod-python2.4 which does not excist.                                                                                                                                         Amaranth
[10:46] <CyaNox> cwillu: as you can see on http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/feisty/python/libapache2-mod-python
[10:46] <MacMatt> Hello! needing help booting Ubuntu from CD on a PowerPc mac
[10:46] <cwillu> looking;  sorry, didn't see the first response
[10:47] <leagris> CyaNox, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-python2.4
[10:47] <echosystm> whats faster, a geforce4 ti4400 or an FX5200 ?
[10:48] <nothlit> dsdg, production you should go with dapper
[10:48] <lardarse> 5200... but get 1 with a fan
[10:48] <MacMatt> anyone with any linux-mac experience ?
[10:48] <echosystm> im actually looking to get one without a fan :P
[10:48] <cwillu> CyaNox: edgy you said?  it pulls libapache2-mod-python2.4 on my system if I select it
[10:48] <lardarse> aaah...
[10:49] <CyaNox> leagris: Package libapache2-mod-python2.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:49] <echosystm> its cheaper for me to buy a new card than to get a heatpipe for my gf4
[10:49] <CyaNox> cwillu: no feisty
[10:49] <lardarse> well, ive had a bad experience with a 520 without a fan...
[10:49] <MisterE> hey guys why not just get a mac with os x?
[10:49] <cwillu> CyaNox: I _think_ fiesty might be going to 2.5, but I'm not sure
[10:49] <echosystm> are 5200s unstable without a fan lardarse?
[10:50] <MisterE> I hear tales ubuntu is the most user friendly distro but umm
[10:50] <lardarse> echosystm: i think the issue was specific to my setup
[10:50] <MisterE> am I missing a white elephant?
[10:50] <lardarse> but it's put me off buying any gfx card without a fan
[10:50] <echosystm> how about radeon 9250 ?
[10:51] <lardarse> echosystm: but YMMV
[10:51] <echosystm> this pc is used in a music studio
[10:51] <Narada> guys; am i write in thinking that when i do update-alternatives --config java and then select one that it is only selecting the `java` binary and not the other 20-25 java related binaries?  because if that is so that is quite retarded
[10:51] <kling0n> MisterE: what do you mean?
[10:51] <echosystm> so it has to be quiet as
[10:51] <fallingdutch> is anyone here using svn on Ubunut6.10 amd64?
[10:51] <lardarse> hmm... my friends generally believe that nvidia cards are better for gaming on linux
[10:51] <CyaNox> so leagris, cwillu I'm basicly stuck till I either compile it myself or to when?
[10:51] <echosystm> rightyo
[10:51] <cwillu> CyaNox: just grab the 2.4 deb from edgy
[10:51] <leagris> CyaNox, here it is http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/python/libapache2-mod-python2.4
[10:51] <lardarse> echosystm: aaah, i see, in that case, a 5200 should be fine
[10:52] <cwillu> CyaNox: are you doing development on fiesty?
[10:52] <lardarse> maybe even the 4400 or the 9250
[10:52] <MisterE> kling0n: what application does it excel most at other than a high-load server I can't make it work in my brai
[10:52] <lardarse> i'm honestly not sure
[10:52] <_raphael_> is there a repo with openoffice 2.1?
[10:52] <lardarse> but if you're not gaming on it, then you don't need to have a "gaming" card
[10:52] <kling0n> MisterE: well... the most fundamental thing for me is, once you've configured your system, it *stays* configured
[10:53] <kling0n> MisterE: and I can make stuff behave the way I like it
[10:53] <MisterE> hmm
[10:53] <buitenzorg812_> what is lubuntu?
[10:53] <kling0n> MisterE: but are you comparing this to windows or osx?
[10:54] <kling0n> MisterE: compared to windows, it should be a no-brainer for most regular users... a Desktop environment that works and does not bother you with popups or viruses
[10:54] <MisterE> os x is my prefered platform I'll get that out in the open up front
[10:54] <Infeliz> loser buntu
[10:54] <MisterE> don;t speak the evil win word
[10:54] <kling0n> MisterE: If you are happy with osx, I wouldnt change
[10:54] <MisterE> no but I keep hearing ubuntu this and that and it's all the rage
[10:54] <MisterE> but I can't figure what Im missing
[10:54] <Vernaldo> OS X is frustrating
[10:55] <MisterE> I mean even comapred to other distros
[10:55] <kling0n> MisterE: but once you've banged your head into stuff that "can't be done" because someone else decided it was bad for you a sufficient number of times, come to the lnux world :)
[10:55] <ddj> @MisterE: If you are happy with OS X .... don't bother with anything else :-)
[10:55] <Vernaldo> OS X is limiting
[10:55] <MisterE> what sets it apart from red had, frdora, debian, yellow dog let alone os x
[10:55] <kling0n> what Vernaldo said :)
[10:55] <MisterE> limiting?
[10:55] <kling0n> hehe long discussion
[10:55] <Vernaldo> using OS X is expensive
[10:56] <ddj> @MisterE:  to each his own
[10:56] <MisterE> it's got all the goodness of a *nix with the best gui a *nix will ever get
[10:56] <kling0n> MisterE: basically, ubuntu edgy is a more "current" package set than the server editions of ubuntu as well as the other distros..
[10:56] <MisterE> how's the device drivers?
[10:56] <kling0n> MisterE: then' there is a fair bit about how much work is ndone on customizing the desktop for the individual distro
[10:56] <kling0n> MisterE: and the quite a bit of general preference :=)
[10:56] <Vernaldo> the finder is too basic a file manager. Even nautilus has more power for some things, and it doesn't even come close to konqueror.
[10:57] <kling0n> MisterE: that is practically identical across all the distros... the kernel is the same kernel tree
[10:57] <MisterE> seriously guys no one who knows their way around a cli uses finder
[10:57] <Vernaldo> you cannot browse others' files from the file manager, finer won't let you. It won't ask for password or anything.
[10:57] <Narada> what do i add to sources.lst to get the new java 6
[10:57] <ddj> @MisterE:  Red Hat: too proprietary for my taste; Fedora: limited package selection (Ubuntu has 21000 packages to choose from!), Yellow Dog: Is for PPC only, not for Intel machines so I can't know it / Debian: Not friendly enough for me.  / SUSE: Novell sucks. I just replaced all my SUSE installations with Debian or Ubuntu ....
[10:58] <kling0n> MisterE: I use Freebsd on servers, and have used it o desktops too... but I prefer unbuntu for desktop stuff
[10:58] <MisterE> hmm
[10:58] <MisterE> 21k packages the mind bogles
[10:58] <Vernaldo> MisterE: well, if you put it like that, then they're both on equal ground. No wait, BSD/linux still wins.
[10:58] <choongii> http://www.pcbsd.org/ :)
[10:58] <MisterE> I can't see how you guys feel limited in os x though
[10:58] <dneary> Hi
[10:58] <MisterE> I know you're used to saving cash but you get what you pay for no?
[10:58] <choongii> I'd love a mac, but they're so expensive ~_~
[10:58] <nothlit> isn't osx limited?
[10:59] <dneary> Any idea which bot generates the IRC logs for this and the other Ubuntu channels?
[10:59] <MisterE> maybe you don't like it "Steve's way" I can dig that
[10:59] <kling0n> MisterE: if your brain works like the mac devs think it does, it's fine.... (and a very nice, well thought out gui it is too!) but once you start wanting to change fundamental parts of it, you simply can't
[10:59] <Vernaldo> ddj: why do you say SUSE sucks? (technical reasons, not microsoft ones please)
[10:59] <Infeliz> mac expensive, are u poor?
[10:59] <choongii> Infeliz, I'm a student, so, yes, I am very poor
[10:59] <kling0n> suse is great for server installs
[10:59] <Infeliz> heh
[10:59] <hdibani> SLED is good for desktop too
[10:59] <kling0n> i'd buy a mac book for the hardware :)
[11:00] <Vernaldo> MisterE: I've spent over 1,500 only in software in the last six months
[11:00] <ddj> @Vernaldo:  Try to upgrade something ... something harmless. It can totally ruin your system! Happened to me several times. And one day I decided: enough is enough.
[11:00] <kling0n> and then put on ubuntu :)
[11:00] <MisterE> mac is no more expensive than a similarly equipped dell box but I kow you all are probably building your own
[11:00] <Vernaldo> MisterE: just on OSX
[11:00] <CyaNox> thanks leagris, cwillu ... it works now.
[11:00] <MisterE> I'm on a macbook kling0n
[11:00] <ootput> g'day folks. I came across two scripts that automated codec installation, graphics driver installation etc, but I've forgotten what they were called. Also, can any of you offer input on either of these, making mention of advantages and pitfalls?
[11:00] <ddj> automatix
[11:00] <kling0n> !automatix
[11:00] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:00] <leagris> Vernaldo, SUSE is RPM based and it was neat in the 90'. Now it is a pain even with yast.
[11:00] <Vernaldo> kling0n: the moment I find someone that can hint me through the process, I'll do it.
[11:01] <kling0n> leagris: yeah.. rpm is a pita
[11:01] <Magilla> !WorksForMe
[11:01] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:01] <Vernaldo> kling0n: the problem is that ubuntu livecd chokes on this mac's video card.
[11:01] <ddj> @LEAGRIS:  dito !! SUSE is nice for as long as you don't dare to install packages that were not shipped on their DVD ...
[11:01] <ootput> ddj, kling0n: what's the name of the other one?
[11:01] <MisterE> how could you spend $1500 on mac os x software?
[11:01] <kling0n> ootput: easyubuntu
[11:01] <ddj> easyubuntu
[11:01] <kling0n> Vernaldo: can't you do a CLI install?
[11:01] <ddj> ha, same thought, same time ... LOL
[11:01] <kling0n> ddj: faster fingers :P
[11:01] <ootput> !easyubuntu
[11:01] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[11:02] <MisterE> you guys are students and probably cs majors to boot when you get into the business world you will have to make a choice unless you land a sys admin gig at a server farm / isp or whatever
[11:02] <Vernaldo> kling0n: it chokes at the CLI!
[11:02] <Kachingo> leagris: Cool, I messaged you in the private convo
[11:02] <kling0n> Vernaldo: is it ppc or intel??
[11:02] <Vernaldo> kling0n: not even the CLI comes up right. The screen gets unreadable.
[11:02] <sushi_> How do I move a window into another virtual desktop?  Thanks
[11:02] <Vernaldo> intel
[11:02] <eeos>  I would like to install ubuntu from the net, on a pc with broadband, where there is already another distribution, but where we do not have floppy or cdrom. ho can I do it? can I do it from the iso?
[11:03] <Vernaldo> single core
[11:03] <eeos> I read the documetation, but did not find an appropriate install method
[11:03] <kling0n> Vernaldo: and do you have any peripherals that you could disconnect during the install ?
[11:03] <MisterE> yay internet back up at mae west
[11:03] <Vernaldo> vid card is intel 950 (which I've learned is troublesome on ubuntu)
[11:03] <kling0n> eeos: PBX
[11:03] <kling0n> eeos: sorry PXE boot
[11:03] <eeos> kling0n PBX?
[11:03] <ootput> eeos: any other pc's close by that one?
[11:03] <sushi_> eeos: use the live cd-rom, it'll have everything you need
[11:03] <leagris> Kachingo, don't see you
[11:03] <ootput> eeos: can do a remote install through netboot
[11:03] <Zaggynl> Hi, I'm trying to play a flv file, I tried VLC and mplayer, both crap out :(
[11:04] <buscon> Hi, how can I made an ubuntu mirror on a debian system?
[11:04] <Zaggynl> ffmpeg cannot conver either: ' [flv @ 0x82c8a80] Unsupported video codec (4)'
[11:04] <eeos> sushi_  just told you I can't
[11:04] <ootput> Zaggynl: dev mplayer works for me
[11:04] <ootput> self-compiled
[11:04] <eeos> kling0n what is PXE boot
[11:04] <kling0n> Zaggynl: go look for the "dirty" codecs
[11:04] <Zaggynl> I have the win32 codecs
[11:04] <eeos> ootput how does that work? can I do it from the repository?
[11:04] <Narada> hi; how do i remove a .deb package installed via dpkg -i?
[11:04] <ddj> Zaggy ... and if you convert it to DIVX?
[11:04] <kling0n> eeos: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[11:05] <Narada> can you just do dpkg --remove?
[11:05] <kling0n> Zaggynl: try it with mplayer
[11:05] <Zaggynl> I tried mplayer too
[11:05] <jokoon> I'm having a problem described on http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue Is it normal that I was having 6.10 when the problem is described to have happenned in august on the 6.06 ?
[11:05] <ddj> @ZAGGY:  mencoder YourFile.flv
[11:05] <ddj> -oac mp3lame -lameopts preset=standard -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1231:mbd=1:lumi_mask=0.5:scplx_mask=0.1:
[11:05] <ddj> cmp=256:vqmin=2:vqmax=6:mbqmin=2:mbqmax=10 -vf pp=lb -ffourcc DX50 -o $2
[11:06] <Zaggynl> :o
[11:06] <ddj> ah sorry .... should all be one line
[11:06] <eeos> kling0n it looks like you need a serer, you do cannot do it from the main repository.
[11:06] <MisterE> nastyness welp each to his own take care ubuntu_people
[11:06] <eeos> kling0n serer = server
[11:06] <kling0n> do you ahve any other machines on the local network?
[11:06] <kling0n> have
[11:06] <ddj> @ZAGGY: it will convert anything into a nice sweet DIVX (*.avi) file ...
[11:06] <Zaggynl> hmm okay
[11:07] <kling0n> ddj not if it can't decode the original file
[11:07] <sushi_> How do I move a window into another virtual desktop?  Thanks
[11:07] <kling0n> sushi_: right click the title bar :)
[11:07] <ddj> OK, of course. If the original file is corrupt or cannot be read due to some missing codecs ... oh well. :)
[11:07] <eeos> kling0n another one
[11:07] <kling0n> Vernaldo: does your mac book have a serial port?
[11:07] <kling0n> eeos: running linux or windows?
[11:08] <kling0n> ddj: ... which puts him back where he started :)
[11:08] <eeos> kling0n linux of course :P (mandriva 2007)
[11:08] <Vernaldo> kling0n: just USB
[11:08] <kling0n> eeos: in that case, you should be able to follow the link
[11:08] <ddj> hmmm ... well ..... at least I tried, no? :)
[11:09] <eeos> kling0n cannot use that machine, it is a production machine used the whole day, that is the reason because I need to install from the repository if possible
[11:09] <kling0n> eeos basically, you set up the directory structure of the install cd, activate tftp for that dir and configure dhcpd to look for BOOTP requests
[11:09] <Jurgeni> is it a common problem that firefox is really slow if there are pages with flash open?
[11:09] <eeos> kling0n yes, I did understand the procedure
[11:10] <kling0n> Vernaldo: have you tried booting a knoppix or other livecd?
[11:10] <Narada> guys am i missing something or is java6 on edgy?
[11:10] <eeos> kling0n but the point is I cannot use it :(
[11:10] <Vernaldo> kling0n: no, not really.
[11:10] <kling0n> Vernaldo: if you can find one that will boot, you should be able to use that interface to get ubuntu on the machine :)
[11:10] <Vernaldo> kling0n: I tried ubuntu, because there is a special ubuntu livecd for macintels
[11:10] <Vernaldo> kling0n: the special ubuntu cd already includes bios tweaks through refit to make it boot
[11:11] <kling0n> eeos: well... if you dont have floppy, dont have cd and can't set up pxe boot you cant really do  a lot
[11:11] <Vernaldo> so, no, I have not tried other livecds. I didn't even consider trying, due to all the BIOS muhaha
[11:11] <kling0n> Vernaldo: use that livecd to do the install then
[11:11] <eeos> kling0n but I have broadband connection, so I imagine I can do a netboot pointing to the main respository.
[11:12] <kling0n> eeos: netbooting requires the serving machine to be on same local net segment
[11:12] <stephan21> !ipaq
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipaq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <kling0n> eeos: it runs on raw ethernet frames
[11:12] <eeos> kling0n that is the problem I could not solve, so this is the reason why I contacted the chat!
[11:12] <stephan21> can someone tell me how to sync my ipaq to linux
[11:12] <kling0n> eeos: i'm sorry for you, but it can't be done
[11:12] <eeos> kling0n I thought there was an equivalent for the internet
[11:13] <eeos> kling0n :(
[11:13] <genesis[OFT] > Hi guys - Can anyone help me with a problem with BIND\DNS?
[11:13] <kling0n> eeos: the PXE code is part of the bios.. it cant be updated to be fancier...
[11:13] <SuMarDi> hello there
[11:13] <Vernaldo> kling0n: my speed is dialup
[11:13] <kling0n> eeos: which is pretty much a good thing (TM) since I wouldnt run the risk of my machine booting some strange install from the internet
[11:14] <SuMarDi> anyone has a modem smartlink driver for kernel 2.6.17-10?
[11:14] <kling0n> Vernaldo: :( do you have flatrate?
[11:14] <Vernaldo> yes
[11:14] <kling0n> Vernaldo:  then it is potentially a question of patience :)
[11:14] <Vernaldo> unlimited always on flatrate, at dialup speed
[11:14] <Vernaldo> ha. ha.
[11:14] <Vernaldo> *sigh*
[11:15] <kling0n> Vernaldo: or you could boot the livecd that works, eject it, mount the install dis and try  going from there
[11:15] <kling0n> dis=disc
[11:15] <genesis[OFT] > there any DNS\BIND gurus out there?
[11:15] <eeos> kling0n but I would like to be able to chose where my machine boots from.
[11:15] <kling0n> Vernaldo: I just got my 10mbit/512kbit line  a month ago :P
[11:16] <kling0n> eeos: the protocol only supports ethernet frames for the bootp request.... it does not speak tcp/ip
[11:16] <Infeliz> does I have to register my nickname in this FreeNode -network?
[11:16] <Vernaldo> I'm officialy on broadband, because it's through cable modem, but the speed is 64kpbs
[11:16] <Infeliz> Do
[11:16] <kling0n> Vernaldo: try the disc-changing strategy
[11:16] <kling0n> Vernaldo: lol
[11:16] <Vernaldo> kling0n: will do. I will try knoppix and others.
[11:17] <eeos> kling0n what I thought, was to download something like a booter, point grub to it, reboot the mchine, and the machine looding the booter, connectig and dowloading/ installing the rest
[11:17] <kling0n> eeos: hmm
[11:17] <Vernaldo> I assume that since I have updated the firmware, maybe other livecds will load too, not just the ubuntu mac special cd
[11:17] <eeos> kling0n I do not understand why should that not be feasible.
[11:17] <kling0n> eeos: you could try downloading the livecd and making an ext2fs partition for it
[11:18] <eeos> kling0n and then?
[11:18] <kling0n> eeos: and then go look for a bootloader that supports both
[11:18] <kling0n> eeos: if you partition magic or similar you could do the partitioning easily
[11:19] <kling0n> eeos: what is the machine running atm?
[11:19] <eeos> kling0n I could eventually dowload the ISO, unpack it locally, reboot pointing to the istaller on hard disk.
[11:19] <Kachingo> leagris: Did you get that?
[11:19] <eeos> kling0n do not understand the question
[11:19] <kling0n> eeos: yes... but you will need to  make an ext2fs partition for the unpacked image
[11:20] <kling0n> eeos: is the machine currently running windows, linux or mac?
[11:20] <eeos> kling0n ubuntu 606 amd64, but need to move to 610 386.
[11:21] <kling0n> eeos: why not simply doing an upgrade?
[11:21] <eeos> kling0n because I eed to change architecture to 386
[11:21] <eeos> kling0n because this is the demo machine we use at the customers, and some stuff does not work on amd64 version
[11:21] <kling0n> eeos: you could install the 386 kernel and then simply choose that from grub :)
[11:22] <eeos> kling0n for example alsa based modems :(:(:(:(
[11:22] <kling0n> eeos: :(
[11:22] <eeos> kling0n explain, please.
[11:22] <kling0n> eeos: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 (or whatever release is avaliable for dapper)
[11:23] <kling0n> eeos: then choose that kernel from the bootloader in stead of the 64bit one
[11:23] <eeos> kling0n yes, but all the remainig ackages I have at the moment are amd64!
[11:23] <mneptok> kling0n: that will not work, as the modules are compiled for AMD64
[11:23] <eeos> kling0n so I imagine they have been compiled for it.
[11:23] <eeos> kling0n including all the modules.
[11:23] <eeos> thanks mneptok
[11:23] <kling0n> eeos: cross- compile a base system?
[11:23] <mneptok> eeos: just get a 6.10 alternate CD and use it to upgrade
[11:24] <kling0n> mneptok: he can't use cds apparently
[11:24] <eeos> mneptok that is the point, cannot use the cd
[11:24] <cr4ftyb0n35> Hello all. Have a small problem, where I installed a touchscreen, and the install process of the driver inserted a bootscript at run level 2(default). Now for some vague reason, on boot, all my devices are screwed up. /dev is completely hosed
[11:24] <mneptok> eeos: why is that?
[11:24] <kling0n> eeos: if you're in a hw shop cant you borrow a drive?
[11:24] <ddj> "hosed" ??? How?
[11:24] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: Unsure.  But I am not able to find anything in the logs.
[11:25] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: basically none of the devices exist
[11:25] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: its as if mknod never ran. Even dev null is bad
[11:25] <bigbro> eeos: You can set up a PXE boot server and boot from that and TFTP - but you should probably be aware that setting up such things requires more hardware and can be more difficult to debug.
[11:25] <pinchartl> hi
[11:25] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: so as soon as I log into X, I get a console with the whole /dev/null permission denied
[11:25] <eeos> bigbro yes, I know
[11:25] <ddj> CR4 ... and if you reboot?
[11:25] <kling0n> bigbro: we've already been around that solution
[11:25] <eeos> ok, I will try to use a different approach!
[11:26] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: same deal
[11:26] <mneptok> eeos: what's wrong with a CD install?
[11:26] <eeos> thanks to everybody!
[11:26] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: if I boot into runlevel 1, its fine
[11:26] <ddj> all the files in /dev are virtual anyway
[11:26] <kling0n> mneptok: he has no drive
[11:26] <bigbro> eeos: THere are few other solutions. Ubuntu is designed to boot off a CD. If you can't use a CD, then you are probably looking at the wrong solution to your problem.
[11:26] <eeos> mneptok that I can't do it now.
[11:26] <kling0n> eeos: you're welcome
[11:26] <Kachingo> leagris: Hmmm, it seems I can't reply to your private messages or anything, you don't reply to pings. Can you private message me a different way of contacting you?
[11:26] <mneptok> eeos: there's no spare drive you could plug in?
[11:26] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: the mknod seems to run fine if that script doesn't execute. So obviously the script is the issue. But the script is so ridiculously tiny, I don't know what's screwing it up
[11:26] <kling0n> mneptok: ooh yeah good idea!
[11:26] <eeos> mneptok no, or I would have done before :P
[11:27] <kling0n> eeos: an extra drive and debootstrap could do it
[11:27] <ddj> CR4 .... can you paste it here?
[11:27] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: paste what?
[11:27] <kling0n> eeos: or make a new partition on your drive and use debotstrap
[11:27] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: hang on
[11:27] <mneptok> eeos: then netbooting is your option
[11:27] <kling0n> debootstrap
[11:27] <eeos> kling0n I have a chroot environment! what about installing from the chroot enviroment????
[11:27] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: ls -ld /dev/
[11:27] <cr4ftyb0n35> drw-rw-r-- 17 root root 14940 2006-12-14 15:56 /dev/
[11:28] <pinchartl> I somehow managed to break sshd, so I'll have to fix that first. it now refuses to listen on both :: (ipv6) and 0.0.0.0 (ipv4) together. I can get it to listen on one of those, but not on both. could anyone help me (ubuntu 6.10 server) ?
[11:28] <eeos> kling0n that sounds a very interesting solution! can you point me to documetation?
[11:28] <kling0n> eeos: that would only install it in the chroot env
[11:28] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: the problem is that /dev doesn;t have the execution bit set
[11:28] <eeos> kling0n I meant make a new partition on your drive and use debotstrap
[11:28] <kling0n> eeos: but if you can free some space and make a new primary partition , you could use debootstrap to make an install on there
[11:28] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: granted, but why is this script ruining it? If I don't insert the script on  bootup, everything works fine
[11:28] <ddj> yeah, those permissions look odd
[11:28] <kling0n> eeos: that would work
[11:28] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: yes, but they are getting screwed up, I wonder why. they are getting screwed up on runtime.
[11:28] <eeos> kling0n could ou point me to some documentatio, please?
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35> * on boot time
[11:29] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: sorry, my crystal ball is in the shop ;)
[11:29] <kling0n> eeos: just remember to update your grub menu.lst
[11:29] <kling0n> !debootstrap
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok. thanks :D
[11:29] <ubotu> debootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB
[11:29] <ddj> OK, can you please paste the content of the boot script here?
[11:29] <kling0n> han gon
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: sure thanks, hang on
[11:29] <eeos> kling0n not very much, is it?
[11:29] <mneptok> please do *not* paste the contents of scripts (or anything else) into the channel
[11:29] <eeos> kling0n :P
[11:29] <mneptok> !pastebin
[11:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: #
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35> # Avoid being interrupted by child or keyboard
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35> #
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35> trap "echo" SIGINT SIGSEGV SIGQUIT SIGTERM
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35> set +e
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35> case "$1" in
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35>     start)
[11:29] <cr4ftyb0n35>         /elo/loadelo
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35>         /elo/eloser ttyS5
[11:30] <ddj> yes, I meant pastebin
[11:30] <kling0n> !chroot | eeos
[11:30] <ubotu> eeos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:30] <mneptok> *sigh*
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35>         ;;
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35>     stop)
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35>         ;;
[11:30] <kling0n> eeos: there yo ugo :)
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35>     *)
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35>         echo "Usage: $0 {start}"
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35>         exit 1
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35> esac
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35> Argh
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35> Pastebin
[11:30] <cr4ftyb0n35> yeah :D
[11:30] <kling0n> eeos: lol look at the description :)
[11:30] <ddj> !pastebin
[11:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:30] <eeos> kling0n thanks! :D
[11:31] <kling0n> eeos: me da man :)
[11:31] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36974/
[11:31] <eeos> kling0n hey! that is th documet I used to set up the chroot on my computer!
[11:31] <mneptok> kling0n: you're the man? cool. want to help debug some initramfs issues? :P
[11:31] <kling0n> mneptok: :P
[11:32] <Teejay__> Has anybody managed to run Ubuntu 6.10 on say a Pentium III 500mhz system with 128mb of ram?
[11:32] <kling0n> mneptok: i'd rather not :)
[11:32] <cr4ftyb0n35> Teejay: welcome to my world :D
[11:32] <kling0n> eeos: look for the debootstrap part
[11:32] <cr4ftyb0n35> Teejay: 6.06 works, 6.10 had major issues, not sure why. I gave up on it. I wasn't that keen
[11:32] <mneptok> Teejay__: you'd want Xubuntu
[11:32] <kling0n> eeos: then make a new partition, mount it and debootstrap into it with the --386 option
[11:32] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: what's that other script do?
[11:33] <frogzoo> cr4ftyb0n35: 128mb is pretty slim
[11:33] <cr4ftyb0n35> frog: yeah
[11:33] <eeos> yes then reboot from there and reinstal from there
[11:33] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: what other script?
[11:33] <kling0n> Teejay__: or fluxbox and env :)
[11:33] <kling0n> and=as
[11:33] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: the other scrupt called from the first one
[11:33] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: /elo/loadelo
[11:33] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: loadelo ?
[11:34] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: and what is this script for again?
[11:34] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: its loading a touchscreen driver
[11:34] <mneptok> it loads the Electric Light Orchestra?
[11:34] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: lol
[11:34] <cr4ftyb0n35> menptok: ELO manufactures touch screens
[11:34] <cr4ftyb0n35> Hang on let me pastebin the other script
[11:34] <mneptok> the driver has no kernel module?
[11:35] <ddj> CR4 .... what's that /elo/loadelo thing?
[11:35] <cr4ftyb0n35> menptok: nope sir. Though there was this thing on their site where you could compile it into the kernel, but the damned thing didn't work at all
[11:36] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36975/
[11:36] <mneptok> that's increditarded
[11:36] <cr4ftyb0n35> menptok :D
[11:36] <mneptok> oh, i see
[11:36] <Vernaldo> bye
[11:36] <Zaggynl> I just had a scaring experience, my keyboard stopped working altogether, mouse did work, most menu's in my gnome desktop didn't work either
[11:37] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: I can see that the stupid "test" line in the loadelo script is causing a possible problem
[11:37] <Zaggynl> reboot fixed it though :/
[11:37] <cr4ftyb0n35> But, I am unsure where
[11:37] <cr4ftyb0n35> GRRRRR
[11:37] <mneptok> add a hasbang to /bin/bash at the top of each elo script
[11:37] <Vernaldo> Zaggynl: ubuntu does that
[11:37] <mneptok> *hashbang
[11:37] <Zaggynl> Vernaldo, it does?!
[11:37] <Vernaldo> Zaggynl: it's to tell you that you shouldn't rely only on computers
[11:37] <Zaggynl> D:
[11:37] <cr4ftyb0n35> menptok: hmmm?
[11:37] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: ELO is making some dumb assumptions about your shell. specify BASH.
[11:37] <Zaggynl> There has at to be a logical explanation for that
[11:37] <Vernaldo> Zaggynl: it's to tell you that you should also get out more, rely on *humans*
[11:37] <dav_id> it might be a hardware error
[11:37] <Vernaldo> that humanity thing, i tell you
[11:38] <Vernaldo> dav_id: no, it's ubuntu
[11:38] <cr4ftyb0n35> menptok: interesting, let me try
[11:38] <dav_id> heh
[11:38] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: thanks, let me try and give it a reboot
[11:38] <Zaggynl> my windows sometimes frooze/rebooted out of itself too, first time in ubuntu T_T
[11:38] <Zaggynl> computers just follow programming, so either the hardware is damaged, or I did something stupid
[11:38] <mneptok> Zaggynl: or the progrmammers did.
[11:38] <dav_id> or both
[11:38] <Vernaldo> Zaggynl: OR the program is buggy
[11:39] <Zaggynl> I was just browsing for crying out loud
[11:39] <Zaggynl> Any logs I should check?
[11:39] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: you think that's it...?
[11:39] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: i think it's more than likely
[11:39] <Vernaldo> BYE all
[11:40] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: we just have to wait. Thanks for everything though. real help
[11:40] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: Please insert $0.25 to continue.
[11:40] <dav_id> has anyone read the official Debian book here? is it helpful when working with Ubuntu?
[11:41] <dav_id> I flicked through 'Ubuntu hacks' but thought that it was a bit.. basic for my liking
[11:42] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: I am afraid the quarter'll have to wait. it didn't work. Same issue.
[11:42] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: bah. le suq.
[11:43] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: oui monsieur, c'est la vie.
[11:43] <mneptok> oui, c'est vrai.
[11:43] <mneptok> tabernoche ...
[11:43] <ddj> @CR4 .... that script ... c'est incredible
[11:43] <ddj> incroyable
[11:43] <ddj> pardon :)
[11:43] <cr4ftyb0n35> menptok: something is weird...the mode in the script says 664. which is right...but something in that script is just really crazy
[11:44] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: Unable to know what the hell is going wrong there, I SWEAR its that stupid script, its just blowing something out. the mknods and the mkfifos...its annoying.
[11:44] <eeos> kling0n got a live cd!
[11:45] <mneptok> cr4ftyb0n35: svp, pastebin the changed script?
[11:45] <eeos> kling0n and working cd reaer!
[11:45] <eeos> kling0n but the screen goes totally blank, even when I try vga=771
[11:45] <eeos> kling0n after boot :(
[11:47] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: hang on, trying something. the \\$1 doesn't make sense to me
[11:47] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: so I am getting rid of the \\
[11:47] <math> hello guys
[11:47] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: think that might be it, hopefully...because that line just don't work in Bash...
[11:47] <math> my fglrx drivers doesnt work on my laptop
[11:48] <math> it says: cant open display
[11:48] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: in which case the if condition would fail and it could just act weird
[11:48] <kurisutofuaa> How do I force mount my CD-Rom/DvD-Rom drive?
[11:49] <osfameron> noncon with media devices is a bit rude
[11:49] <Starcraftmazter> hi
[11:49] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: lol, now the dev problem is gone, but the touchscreen no longer works :D
[11:50] <Starcraftmazter> any1 here?
[11:50] <Zaggynl> how do I check which version of ubuntu i run again
[11:50] <math> Zaggynl, overloper :P
[11:50] <ddj> @CR4 ... Can you try to change the script? Remove the lines where they delete stuff in /dev/* ....
[11:50] <Zaggynl> math, :P
[11:50] <math> uname -r ofzo?
[11:51] <Zaggynl> that's the kernel version
[11:51] <math> ooh
[11:51] <cr4ftyb0n35> ddj: sure, but that's unlikely to help. Clearly the issue is elsewhere...but sure, let's give it one more shot.
[11:53] <ndlovu> is there some way I can automatically set my routing so that I don't have to disconnect my wireless network (ifconfig eth1 down) in order to use my mobile phone as a modem?
[11:53] <math> how to install firefox 2.0 ?
[11:53] <math> apt-get install mozilla-firefox..?
[11:53] <math> will it replace my older one?
[11:53] <JoshHendo> math, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:53] <math> 6.06.1 dapper drake?
[11:53] <[1] DarkLegacy> How can I combine two internet connections into one?
[11:54] <[1] DarkLegacy> As in, split packets between both
[11:54] <[1] DarkLegacy> Network brige?
[11:54] <[1] DarkLegacy> bridge*
[11:54] <JoshHendo> math, get the upgrade script. just a sec, I will get you a link
[11:54] <math> JoshHendo, thnx :)
[11:54] <math> I'll wait
[11:55] <JoshHendo> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/firefox
[11:55] <math> ok thnx
[11:56] <math> JoshHendo, its not in synaptic?
[11:56] <JoshHendo> it is in Synaptic for Edgy, as it comes with edgy
[11:56] <math> ah :)
[11:57] <DarkLegacy> :O
[11:57] <Zaggynl> Where does firestart keeps its logfile? can't find it in /var/log
[11:57] <math> how about autofill?
[11:57] <cr4ftyb0n35> mneptok: that didn't work either
[11:57] <JoshHendo> math, is that about firefox?
[11:57] <JoshHendo> it should work the same as in 1.5
[11:57] <math> no something else in terminal
[11:57] <math> when u want to autofill a second word
[11:58] <stefg> Hi, has anyone ever tried to move a vmware-installation of ubuntu to a non-virtual machine? Would it work? My idea is to set up a 'golden machine' in vmware, and then just shift the whole installation to a real machine, as often as i want (because i tend to break edgy very often, when i'm trying things ;-) )
[11:58] <DarkLegacy> Download :: 12880 Kbps or 12.88 Mbps (1572 kB/s)
[11:58] <math> its not on dapper
[11:59] <JoshHendo> You may be thinking of 'fish'
[11:59] <math> sudo apt-get install [TAB]  gives more options in Edgy, but not in Dapper
[11:59] <JoshHendo> A terminal program
[11:59] <JoshHendo> oh, ok
[12:00] <we2by> hi
[12:00] <JoshHendo> hello
[12:00] <cr4ftyb0n35> I FOUND IT! The problem was \\. It should only be one slash, typo in the original sript
[12:01] <we2by> my wireless dies from time to time and I have to reload the module to get it back working
[12:01] <nata1> whats the best webdesign program for KDE?
[12:01] <nata1> like dreamweaver.
[12:01] <we2by> kedit
[12:01] <JoshHendo> What drivers are you you using for your wireless card we2by?
[12:01] <we2by> JoshHendo, it is rt2500
[12:02] <JoshHendo> we2by, try bluefish or nvu, doesn't really matter if you use GTK in KDE imho
[12:02] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows where firestarter keeps its logfiles? I can't find it in any documentation
[12:02] <we2by> JoshHendo, nah, I prefer gedit
[12:02] <math> dont use nvu if u want to do some php-programming
[12:02] <bvanaerde> I'm also using gedit for the moment
[12:03] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: somewhere in /var/log I'd guess
[12:03] <we2by> yea, nvu sucks on php.
[12:03] <Starcraftmazter> any1 here run dreamweaver on ubuntu?
[12:03] <we2by> a php editor with auto completion would be nice
[12:03] <bvanaerde> the only thing that comes close to dreamweaver, is Eclipse
[12:03] <JoshHendo> I answered that as the question was a webdesign program like dreamweaver
[12:03] <math> bluefish is realy cool
[12:03] <math> I like it a lot
[12:03] <JoshHendo> Starcraftmazter, there are tutorials that will allow you to run dreamweaver in wine
[12:03] <we2by> math, does it have autocompletion?
[12:03] <Starcraftmazter> can you recomend any?
[12:03] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, I tried looking there, can't find firestarter or iptables
[12:03] <math> JoshHendo, what's the big difference between firefox 1.5 and 2.0?
[12:03] <Starcraftmazter> recommend*
[12:04] <math> we2by I've to find out
[12:04] <JoshHendo> math: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0/releasenotes/
[12:04] <math> not installed it on this laptop
[12:04] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: oh, as I recall, you need to enable logging in firestarter
[12:04] <math> JoshHendo, :D thnx
[12:04] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, okay I'll go looking in the gui
[12:04] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: yep
[12:05] <Zaggynl> can't find it D:
[12:05] <Starcraftmazter> what are the best compilers for tarballs?
[12:05] <JoshHendo> whoever it was who was having problems with their wireless card, check here: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTOS
[12:05] <bvanaerde> dreamweaver in wine: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200305
[12:05] <JoshHendo> starcraftmazter: do you mean to create a tar file?
[12:06] <Starcraftmazter> nay
[12:06] <JoshHendo> Just use archive manager
[12:06] <Starcraftmazter> I'll be installing a lot of tarballs, for lamp, etc
[12:06] <we2by> JoshHendo, thanks
[12:06] <Starcraftmazter> so I'll need to compile a lot of things from source
[12:06] <Starcraftmazter> i understand ubuntu doesn't come with any compilers?
[12:06] <JoshHendo> you will need to unzip them, and then compile them using the make command
[12:06] <Starcraftmazter> yeh, I know how it's done
[12:07] <we2by> JoshHendo, maybe I foud out what was causing this problem. too many open connections
[12:07] <Starcraftmazter> BUT, does ubuntu have the necessary compilers, out of the box
[12:07] <we2by> I have over 300 connections open for BT
[12:07] <JoshHendo> hehe
[12:07] <JoshHendo> ok
[12:07] <we2by> just lowered it to 200 and works nice
[12:07] <we2by> hope it stays so :)
[12:08] <|thunder> !paste
[12:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:08] <math> we2by installed bluefish again, no autofill in it
[12:09] <math> but it has highlighting
[12:09] <math> for syntax types
[12:09] <we2by> math, so does gedit
[12:09] <math> oh :o
[12:09] <nothlit> !build-essential | Starcraftmazter
[12:09] <ubotu> Starcraftmazter: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:09] <we2by> with auto-complete work goes faster
[12:09] <math> well the bluefish editor is more advanced I gues
[12:09] <nothlit> !lamp | Starcraftmazter
[12:09] <ubotu> Starcraftmazter: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:09] <math> we2by true
[12:10] <math> we2by
[12:10] <we2by> phpgedit is nice too
[12:10] <math> where is it
[12:10] <math> the auto fill
[12:10] <math> in gedit
[12:10] <we2by> it can collapse a large function
[12:10] <math> :/
[12:11] <we2by> math, gedit does n't have auto-complete
[12:11] <math> ooh, I thought u said
[12:11] <math> what about second auto-complet in dapper?
[12:11] <Magilla> how do I give apache permission to write to a driectory in my homedirectory?
[12:11] <math> in terminal
[12:12] <halorgium> i've been booting to my usb flash stick, but when it tries to install the base system, it fails with 'Cannot locate codename for release" (Deboostrap error)
[12:12] <we2by> math, bluefish can do auto completion
[12:12] <math> sudo apt-get install [TAB] 
[12:12] <we2by> try ctrl+space
[12:12] <math> ooh
[12:12] <Pippo> hello
[12:12] <math> we2by, thats nice!
[12:12] <math> :D
[12:12] <Damiano[PL] > hellooo
[12:12] <Pippo> math?
[12:12] <math> yes
[12:12] <we2by> lemme try it  :)
[12:12] <math> yea
[12:12] <Pippo> i have a problem
[12:12] <Pippo> my ethernet card don't run
[12:12] <Pippo> :(
[12:13] <Damiano[PL] > is here anyone from POLAND????
[12:13] <Pippo> i need help
[12:13] <frogzoo> this is a hard one, so worth extra points - how do you get the networking in vmware-player (on edgy) to use a tap interface instead of bridging?
[12:13] <kurisutofuaa> I am trying to set up a share between my mac and ubuntu how do I set up a shared folder?
[12:13] <Pippo> sooo
[12:13] <Damiano[PL] > sambaaa
[12:13] <we2by> lol
[12:13] <Pippo> i need help
[12:13] <halorgium> kurisutofuaa: edit the /etc/smb.conf
[12:13] <we2by> bluefish crashed
[12:14] <math> no shit
[12:14] <we2by> crashed when trying to save the file
[12:14] <math> :/
[12:15] <Pippo> who can help me?
[12:15] <M3G4crux> hi
[12:15] <math> u use windows? :P
[12:15] <we2by> no lol
[12:15] <M3G4crux> anyone has successfully installed splashy on boot time on Ubuntu Edgy?
[12:16] <M3G4crux> I got it to work when I halt or reboot. but not on boot
[12:16] <math> we2by, hehe :P
[12:16] <Zaggynl> kurisutofuaa, just right click the folder and hit 'share folder'
[12:16] <M3G4crux> is there anyone who knows what splashy is?
[12:17] <JoshHendo> !splashy
[12:17] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:17] <frogzoo> !splashy | M3G4crux
[12:17] <ubotu> M3G4crux: usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:17] <M3G4crux> ok I knew that I just wanted to call your attention heheh
[12:18] <M3G4crux> however that is not splashy, that is usplash
[12:18] <Pippo> who can help me?
[12:19] <nothlit> frogzoo, you can edit the properties of the virtual machine and change the networking properties to nat
[12:19] <M3G4crux> ok, lets try something different. Has anyone been able to install a java program from windows on a ubuntu box through wine?
[12:19] <we2by> math, gphpedit is a nice editor too. it gives a reference when you type mysql_query :)
[12:20] <math> cool thnx
[12:20] <math> :)
[12:22] <we2by> math, it got auto-complete too! nice
[12:22] <math> nice!
[12:23] <math> I'll install it now :D
[12:23] <we2by> but only for buildin php functions
[12:23] <math> not with html syntaxes?
[12:23] <nata1> whats the easiest way to install java?
[12:23] <we2by> don't think so
[12:23] <nata1> is there an apt package available for that?
[12:23] <we2by> it's still a nice editor
[12:23] <we2by> :)
[12:24] <nata1> eclipse needs java to run. :(
[12:24] <we2by> I'm off to code :)
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> !java | nata1
[12:24] <ubotu> nata1: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:24] <ika> hi
[12:24] <math> ye :)
[12:24] <ika> i m new comer
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> Welcome ika
[12:24] <ika> where is the update config file?
[12:25] <Wiseguy> hey guys, how do i get the mac osx looking app bar at the bottom of my screen... im looking at gnome-look.org and i see lots of themes that show that tool bar but i cant figure out how to get it up
[12:25] <apokryphos> ika: update config file?
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> ika: What do you mean?
[12:25] <apokryphos> ika: if you're looking to upgrade, you want to read the upgrade instructions.
[12:25] <apokryphos> ika: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:25] <ika> update resourse config file
[12:26] <roovis> Wiseguy: I think you're talking about kiba dock
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> Wiseguy: This might help - http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php
[12:26] <nothlit> cairo dock /gnome dock is a lot more osx like
[12:27] <math> we2by,
[12:27] <math> how to auto complete?
[12:27] <apokryphos> math: auto-complete what?
[12:28] <math> in gphpedit
[12:28] <frogzoo> math: hit tab?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> math: the tab button might do it
[12:28] <math> oh just like in the terminal
[12:29] <math> doesnt work
[12:29] <frogzoo> !doesn't work
[12:29] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:30] <nothlit> !edgy | ika
[12:30] <ubotu> ika: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[12:30] <math> try to speak dutch :P
[12:30] <gnomefreak> math: not all apps use tab to autocomplete. not all apps can do autocomplete
[12:30] <we2by> math, it gives a list of posible f unctions you are refering to
[12:30] <we2by> ;)
[12:30] <gnomefreak> !de
[12:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:30] <we2by> math, mysql_
[12:30] <we2by> try that
[12:30] <math> k
[12:30] <Wiseguy> this is an example: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=25816
[12:30] <we2by> math, nice, I'm from nl too
[12:31] <we2by> but chinese
[12:31] <math> lol
[12:31] <math> dat kan zomaar he ;)
[12:31] <we2by> haha, yep :P
[12:32] <ReTyPe> i installed kdm and now kdm is default login manager, but it doesn't work, how do i set it back to gdm ?
[12:32] <math> were from?
[12:32] <math> we2by,
[12:32] <math> province
[12:32] <we2by> math, I live in the hague
[12:32] <we2by> z-holland
[12:32] <math> oh ok :)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> ReTyPe: sudo dpkg reconfigure gdm
[12:32] <math> Dordrecht?
[12:33] <we2by> den haag ;)
[12:33] <math> ahh
[12:33] <dv_> ReTyPe, update-alternatives
[12:33] <gnomefreak> math: and we2by please join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue that
[12:33] <dv_> just a sec, looking up the exact entry
[12:33] <math> ye ye
[12:33] <math> I'm already quite
[12:34] <we2by> I'm off
[12:34] <math> we2by,
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ReTyPe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:34] <math> oh ok
[12:34] <math> lama
[12:34] <ycedres> when I try to run a php script that connects to mysql (apahe2.0+php4+mysql5.1)  it works ok...but when I try to do the same with a much bigger database the server doesn't run the script but offer me to download the php file...does anybody know if this has to do with any kind of timeout variable in php.ino or apache2.conf?
[12:34] <dv_> RedKrieg, sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[12:34] <we2by> wanna get some frites :)
[12:34] <dv_> oh, or dpkg-reconfigure
[12:34] <math> oooh :o
[12:34] <we2by> math, want some? :P
[12:34] <math> jjajajaja
[12:34] <Magilla> I added myself to the group www-data, but I STILL can't write to /var/www/ without using sudo. Why is this?
[12:35] <math> from hague
[12:35] <Mongrol> hey folks
[12:35] <shiner421> Greetings
[12:35] <we2by> bbl
[12:35] <frogzoo> Magilla: ls -ld /var/www/
[12:35] <math> cu :)
[12:35] <Mongrol> can anyone tell me how to set the QT theme? I`m not using kubuntu, just have some QT apps
[12:35] <shiner421> So I was goofing around with the file that contains all my boot info, and I somehow removed the entry for my windows partition
[12:36] <shiner421> how do I get that back?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> shiner421: did you make a backup?
[12:36] <shiner421> Lesson learned here, dont mess with that stuff
[12:36] <shiner421> ahh, no
[12:36] <gnomefreak> shiner421: :(
[12:36] <shiner421> yea I know
[12:36] <gnomefreak> shiner421: file file?
[12:36] <shiner421> part of the learning process
[12:36] <gnomefreak> what file?
[12:36] <shiner421> let me look it up
[12:37] <Magilla> frogzoo: what does that show me?
[12:37] <shiner421> menu.lst
[12:37] <_raphael_> if I want to install debs for openoffice manually, do I have to remove the old openoffice packages?
[12:37] <frogzoo> Magilla: what did it say?
[12:37] <pvf> oi oi...does anyone know how to switch focus to a window on gnome without obscuring the first one...with the keyboard
[12:37] <gnomefreak> shiner421: there might be a backup made for you look in /boot/grub/ for a menu.lst~ or something like that
[12:38] <Magilla> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-12-14 20:05 /var/www/
[12:38] <shiner421> yea there is one like that
[12:38] <shiner421> so I jsut copy it over to the other one?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> shiner421: open it see if the windows part is there  and replace the /boot/grub/menu.lst with that one
[12:39] <gnomefreak> shiner421: or copy it over :)
[12:39] <shiner421> well, that was easy
[12:39] <shiner421> ok next question
[12:39] <shiner421> I have a few entries in my list that I dont want
[12:39] <gnomefreak> shiner421: always back up files before playing with them please
[12:39] <shiner421> such as a kernel I installed that doesnt quite work
[12:39] <gnomefreak> shiner421: what list?
[12:39] <shiner421> the grub boot menu
[12:40] <Magilla> I thought ubuntu runs apache as www-data though...
[12:40] <shiner421> it has the 386 kernel which I got my video drivers to work with
[12:40] <Wiseguy> is there a way to get the open apps to minimize to the top bar rather than the bottom one?
[12:40] <shiner421> the 686 kernel doesnt work
[12:40] <Magilla> does that mean apache is running as root?
[12:40] <shiner421> it completely crashes my system
[12:40] <gnomefreak> shiner421: open synaptic and search kernel than find ones you dont need or want and choose complete removal
[12:40] <shiner421> thought so
[12:40] <shiner421> hehe learning fast here
[12:40] <gnomefreak> shiner421: that will delete them from /boot/grub/menu.lst also :)
[12:40] <frogzoo> !permissions | Magilla
[12:40] <ubotu> Magilla: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:41] <shiner421> oh yea I think I installed beryl, but I dont know how to get it to work
[12:41] <Lynoure> Wiseguy: how about manually switching the bars around? or moving the tasklist area from lower to upper one? I'm in kde, but I bet you can do either.
[12:41] <Magilla> shiner421: I'm running Beryl. It's sweet as :D
[12:41] <Infeliz> my xgl doesnt work, where are the logs?
[12:41] <shiner421> found it, eager to check this out
[12:41] <shiner421> brb as I p[lay with this a second
[12:42] <Wiseguy> Lynoure, because im still using the bottom bar as an app launcher
[12:42] <shiner421> ok I see the config program, but I dont see any 3d effects on my desktop of any kind
[12:42] <Lynoure> Wiseguy: in kde those are different. Not in gnome?
[12:43] <Magilla> frogzoo: how do I make it so that I can write to /var/www without using sudo?
[12:43] <Lynoure> s/diffirent/separate
[12:45] <daviey> Hi, has anybody here got LIRC working on edgy?
[12:45] <refus3d> hey
[12:45] <shiner421> ok I restarted my X server and still no 3d effects
[12:46] <shiner421> I dont think beryl is running
[12:46] <Magilla> did you see a splashscreen telling you that beryl is running?
[12:47] <shiner421> no
[12:47] <shiner421> I installed it through synaptic
[12:47] <shiner421> and I found the configuration program
[12:47] <shiner421> but its not running
[12:47] <Magilla> which how-to did you use?
[12:47] <_raphael_> how can I remove openoffice-writer without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[12:48] <shiner421> ahhh
[12:48] <shiner421> dunno
[12:48] <shiner421> I just found it in synaptic
[12:48] <Pippo> who can help me?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> shiner421: for beryl try #ubuntu-xgl
[12:48] <daviey> Pippo, no one
[12:48] <shiner421> ok how about this, which how-to should I use?
[12:48] <protocol1> how can I figure out what is my default cd-rom mount?
[12:48] <Pippo> i have a problem with ethernet
[12:48] <Magilla> shiner421: the one in the ubuntu wiki, not the one on the beryl site
[12:49] <shiner421> ok, ill go check that out
[12:49] <frogzoo> Pippo: ok
[12:49] <daviey> Pippo, we need more info
[12:49] <Pippo> ok
[12:49] <_raphael_> is there a repo that has norwegian openoffice 2.1 packages?
[12:49] <protocol1> is there an eject command I can use to test in console?
[12:49] <Pippo> i have a ifconfig
[12:49] <Pippo> than i have
[12:49] <daviey> protocol1, 'eject'!
[12:49] <Pippo> eth0
[12:49] <Pippo> lo
[12:49] <Pippo> wlan0
[12:49] <Pippo> wmaster0
[12:50] <Pippo> who is wmaster0?
[12:50] <protocol1> daviey, im trying to eject my cdrom from console
[12:50] <protocol1> have a command I can use?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> protocol1: eject is the command iirc
[12:50] <Pippo> daviey?
[12:50] <daviey> protocol1, use eject
[12:50] <protocol1> ok
[12:50] <gnomefreak> !wireless | Pippo
[12:50] <ubotu> Pippo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:51] <daviey> Pippo, sorry, don't know nothing about wireless
[12:52] <protocol1> daviey, that ejects my secondary cd-rom drive
[12:52] <protocol1> how can I do my primary one?
[12:53] <daviey> protocol1, eject /media/cdrom0 (or whatever mount point it has)
[12:54] <protocol1> daviey, that did it thanks
[12:55] <daviey> protocol1, np
[12:55] <usr_rob> I got update notification about linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic. If i install this, will i loose the Ati drivers that i bulid in my current kernel ? Does my current modules also load on the new kernel ?
[12:55] <protocol1> Im installing quake 4 thats why I was asking   :)
[12:58] <frogzoo> usr_rob: uname -r - as long as it report linux-image-2.6.17, you should be ok
[12:59] <usr_rob> frogzoo: Okej, thx!! :)
[12:59] <Magilla> ok, lets attack this from another angle. How do I give apache/php permission to write to ~/webpages?
[01:00] <usr_rob> frogzoo: Okey, thx! (sorry forgot to write in english)
[01:02] <kurisutofuaa> How would I go about converting a .cdr image to .iso image?
[01:02] <kavit> ahoy there!! anyone else having SCSI CD device issues on Edgy?
[01:05] <jacquesmerde> the nv driver always puts my display a half-inch to the right, any solutions other than switching to the proprietary driver (which works fine)?
[01:05] <jrib> Magilla: why?
[01:06] <kaptengu> is there away to have openoffice running in the background for quicker startup?
[01:06] <tim167> i installed an update as suggested by update notifier, now all my sound devices stopped working! please help! its urgent! how can I downgrade again ?
[01:06] <rajiv_nair> tim: which update xactly??
[01:07] <tim167> not sure, i just followed some update wizard
[01:07] <rajiv_nair> !sound | tim
[01:07] <ubotu> tim: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:07] <tim167> if I try to open Volume control, i get : "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured"
[01:07] <Magilla> jrib: I got sick of having to sudo to create/edit/move/delete files and folders in /var/www so I put a symlink in there pointing to ~/webpages
[01:08] <rajiv_nair> tim: check out the links ubotu gave u
[01:08] <Magilla> it works fine until I ask php to work out where a folder is
[01:08] <jrib> Magilla: best way is to create a group for web editing, add yourself to that group, and change /var/www to be owned by that group
[01:09] <VSpike> I was thinking, since moving from Windows, I've often been less than impressed by the quality of application software available in Ubuntu (bought to mind as yet another app failed the first time I tried to use it).  One thing I love about Linux is the command line - the Bash shell and all the good stuff that goes with it (awk, sed, grep, etc.).  However, I could have all that stuff on Windows with Cygwin...
[01:09] <Magilla> the then resolves the symlink and takes a dump because it can't write to ~
[01:09] <rajiv_nair> Vspike: wats ur point??
[01:09] <VSpike> My question is, what is your killer app on ubuntu/Linux?  Which app do you find really indispensible?
[01:09] <Magilla> jrib: as long as that doesn't kill apaches ability to work in /var/www
[01:10] <jrib> VSpike: vim, but this is a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:10] <VSpike> my reason for asking is for my own education about what's available, so that I can check out some that I haven't heard off
[01:10] <jrib> Magilla: no, it should work fine
[01:10] <Magilla> 'k, thanks
[01:10] <VSpike> jrib: yeah, I did wonder. It's kind of a support question, and kind of not, but I'll take it over there
[01:10] <tim167> rajiv_nair: I had a perfectly working hammerfal hdsp+multiface before upgrading, now it doesnt even load
[01:10] <VSpike> jrib: I like vim too, although I don't really use it to its potential
[01:10] <jrib> kaptengu: ooqstart-gnome package (I've never tried it)
[01:10] <kurisutofuaa> How would I go about converting a .cdr image to .iso image?
[01:11] <rajiv_nair> tim: ohh........srry dude......dnt no any further:( u tried the forums??
[01:11] <frogzoo> VSpike: must haves = openoffice, taskjuggler, kismet, umm...htop,nmap,...?
[01:11] <rajiv_nair> dnt knw*
[01:11] <zak> VSpike: killer apps - konqueror [esp. it's/KDE's virtual filesystem] , beagle, k3b, amarok, rox filer [sorry, haven't used gnome much :)] 
[01:11] <rajiv_nair> Vspike: i cant live without beryl :D
[01:13] <VSpike> great stuff.. plenty I've not heard of or looked at. just what I wanted. Thanks!
[01:13] <rajiv_nair> hehe
[01:13] <rajiv_nair> :D
[01:13] <kavit> pitti: are you around??
[01:13] <VSpike> rajiv_nair: beryl looks fun but I haven't dared try and set it up yet :) given that I have enough trouble with basic stuff
[01:13] <rajiv_nair> never hesitate my friend:D
[01:14] <rajiv_nair> trust me..beryl's worth the risk:)
[01:14] <kaptengu> thanks jrib
[01:14] <rajiv_nair> and if any xgl-beryl luver here is in a mood to "flame".........take a luk at http://center-fold.blogspot.com/ and flame on:D:D
[01:14] <frogzoo> VSpike: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[01:15] <XCute4God> pls... anyone... ive tried to install BERYL and EMERALD themes in my Edgy 6.10, ATI X700 with 3D acceleration enabled, but the official guide didnt worked for me ;( ... anyone can help me?
[01:15] <frogzoo> anyone know how to get vmware-player on edgy to use tap0 instead of bridged ethernet?
[01:15] <pitti> kavit: yes
[01:15] <rajiv_nair> Xcure: try #beryl
[01:16] <rajiv_nair> Xvute4God*
[01:16] <rajiv_nair> Xcute4god*
[01:16] <rajiv_nair> damn typos
[01:16] <Unity> hi i am new, how to solve after install 'apt-get install linux-686' on Dapper and reboot mouse & keyboard don't work, same problem straight after install with Edgy Eft
[01:17] <kavit> pitti: sweet, i am using Edgy... I have a laptop with a SATA DVD RAM drive and hal cannot detect... edgy is updated to the latest updates
[01:17] <jacquesmerde> yo, on my previous distro i screwed around with mounting and symlinking a fat32 partition, and now all the permissions on different subdirectories are different. i assumed the permissions were on the previous linux partition, but now that partition is gone. how do i reset to normal permissions on the fat32 partition?
[01:17] <Infeliz> how do i solve problem, xgl doesnt work
[01:17] <kavit> pitti: launchpad.net says the bug has been resolved but /dev doesn't get device nodes
[01:17] <genesis[OFT] > Can anyone help me with an issue with Dynamic DNS Updates with Bind and Windows XP clients?  I'd really appreciate it!
[01:18] <kavit> pitti: lshal thinks its a generic scsi device
[01:18] <patbam> hi, does anyone happen to know where python2.5 's libs are supposed to live in dapper? they seem to be in /usr/local/lib/python.2.5 but 2.4 was in /usr/lib/python2.4 (no /local/ )
[01:18] <cdavis_> is vmware server working with edgy?  I had it working with dapper but when I upgraded vmware stopped working
[01:19] <kavit> pitti: is this worth bothering you or is it a different issue and needs to be reported accordingly?
[01:19] <jrib> patbam: /usr/local is stuff you installed without using the package manager
[01:19] <iltomee> hi
[01:20] <kurisutofuaa> How do I convert a .cdr image to .iso image?
[01:20] <patbam> jrib: ah, oh yeah. i guess i installed 2.5 from a tarball, forgot. if 2.5 is in the repos now, would installing it from synaptic be extraordinarily bad, ray?
[01:20] <cdavis_> If I install vmware through synaptic can I keep my vmware machines and not have to reinstall windows as a vmware guest?
[01:20] <jrib> patbam: no, but your system will still prefer the one in /usr/local since /usr/local comes first in your PATH
[01:21] <daviey> cdavis_, you should be able to, it's just a case of loading the vmx file
[01:21] <frogzoo> cdavis_: of course
[01:21] <iltomee> Hello, this is my first time around here... I have a problem... I CANNOT intall g++ very disturbing...
[01:21] <cdavis_> ok
[01:21] <patbam> jrib: that makes sense. thanks for your help
[01:21] <iltomee> can someone help
[01:21] <jrib> iltomee: how did you try to install it?
[01:21] <daviey> iltomee, from packages?
[01:21] <frogzoo> !helpme
[01:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:21] <cdavis_> daviey, the vmx file is all I need?
[01:22] <jrib> patbam: I would remove the /usr/local installation and use the repositories myself.  np
[01:22] <frogzoo> cdavis_: no, you need the disk image as well
[01:22] <daviey> well those around it aswell, but the vmx is the machine image
[01:22] <iltomee> i tryed w/ apt-get and also w/ the package manager
[01:22] <patbam> jrib: i'm looking to see if 2.5 has made it into the repo yet
[01:22] <jrib> iltomee: pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[01:22] <daviey> iltomee, what error is getting returned?
[01:22] <iltomee> i messed around w/ my sourcle.list before, so...
[01:22] <jrib> patbam: I know it is in edgy, don't know about dapper
[01:22] <patbam> jrib: doesn't seem to be there, guess not yet.
[01:22] <frogzoo> anyone know how to get vmware's networking to use tap0 ?
[01:22] <MaDrense> hi ppl ...
[01:22] <patbam> jrib: the name "edgy" makes me nervous :D
[01:22] <daviey> frogzoo, part of installation
[01:22] <jrib> patbam: heh
[01:23] <frogzoo> patbam: it's better than dapper, imo
[01:23] <iltomee> jrib, just a sec
[01:23] <fenrig> how do  I mount a hard disk when running the ubuntu live cd?
[01:23] <MaDrense> got a question that I know has been asked a lot ... but i really havent found a clear answer
[01:23] <fenrig> !mount
[01:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:23] <patbam> is upgrading difficult?
[01:23] <frogzoo> daviey: you have this working?
[01:23] <MaDrense> got an intel core 2 duo ..
[01:23] <jrib> iltomee: pastebinning /etc/apt/sources.list too would probably help
[01:23] <MaDrense> should i go 32 bits or 64 bits ?
[01:23] <jrib> !upgrade | patbam
[01:23] <ubotu> patbam: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:23] <frogzoo> daviey: you're using tap0, and NOT bridging?
[01:23] <patbam> thanks
[01:23] <MaDrense> anyone ?
[01:23] <daviey> fenrig, in console mount /dev/hd1a /mnt/folder  (hda1 = the hd and folder needs to exsist) so mkdir /mnt/folder (example
[01:24] <iltomee> jrib, here u go:
[01:24] <iltomee> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:24] <iltomee>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[01:24] <iltomee>                             libc-dev
[01:24] <iltomee>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:24] <iltomee> E: Broken packages
[01:24] <jrib> !pastebin | iltomee
[01:24] <ubotu> iltomee: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:24] <daviey> frogzoo, naa, didn't get it working :(
[01:24] <fenrig> thx il try
[01:24] <jacquesmerde> yo, on my previous distro i screwed around with mounting and symlinking a fat32 partition, and now all the permissions on different subdirectories are different. i assumed the permissions were on the previous linux partition, but now that partition is gone. how do i reset to normal permissions on the fat32 partition?
[01:24] <frogzoo> daviey: tap0 worked on dapper, but the install scripts don't seem to set it up on edgy
[01:24] <cdavis_> synaptic tells me it can't that an update for mplayer is available, but it wont let me select it?
[01:24] <daviey> frogzoo, no idea then, sorry
[01:25] <fenrig> hello
[01:25] <jrib> iltomee: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <iltomee> jrib: what is pastebin?
[01:25] <fenrig> uhm what is the
[01:25] <fenrig> root password for the live cd?
[01:25] <bigbro> jacquesmerde: FAT32 doesn't have permissions - the filesystem doesn't support them. What are you trying to do exactly?
[01:25] <frogzoo> daviey: well it hasn't beaten me yet
[01:25] <MaDrense> has anyone been using a 64 bit version with the intel core 2 duo ?
[01:25] <apokryphos> fenrig: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:25] <iltomee> jrib ok
[01:26] <daviey> fenrig, use 'sudo su' to get root access
[01:26] <apokryphos> daviey: please do not advise that
[01:26] <apokryphos> daviey: recommend sudo -i instead
[01:26] <daviey> apokryphos, whats the diffeence
[01:26] <apokryphos> (if you want someone to get a jailed root session)
[01:26] <iltomee> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36986/
[01:26] <apokryphos> daviey: one uses su to get root access, the other plainly uses sudo. Furthermore, sudo -i sets up the envrionment more appropriately (see man sudo)
[01:27] <jrib> iltomee: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:27] <lambert> hi max
[01:27] <iltomee> dapper
[01:27] <daviey> apokryphos, for a live cd - surely they are interchangable
[01:27] <patbam> gksu has to be run with sudo, right?
[01:27] <jacquesmerde> bigbro: this is what i thought! hence my confusion! please help
[01:28] <iltomee> jrib 6.06
[01:28] <daviey> patbam, use gksudo
[01:28] <buzzy-> hello,  i have a problem on my hard disk> i have resized some partitions and now windows does not start anymore...if i start linux (ubuntu) it makes the filesystem check...but fails and asks me to do it manually O_O..what can i do_
[01:28] <buzzy-> ?
[01:28] <jrib> iltomee: apt-cache policy build-essential libc6-dev libc-dev g++        on pastebin please
[01:28] <apokryphos> daviey: no, not the same environment variables are set. And like I said, even if it's interchangable: one uses su to get root access, the other uses sudo. sudo is the recommended model on Ubuntu. It provides problems if we tell users to use sudo, not su, and then we have that recommended for a jailed session
[01:28] <patbam> daviey: [[[ $ gksudo "update-manager -c "  ] ] ]  ?
[01:29] <apokryphos> daviey: sudo handles jailed root sessions just fine, and that's with sudo -i.
[01:29] <MartySk_tch> buzzy - how did you resize the partition?
[01:29] <buzzy-> gparted
[01:29] <jrib> patbam: no, you can just use gksu, no sudo
[01:29] <buzzy-> MartySk_tch, but i did not touch windows one
[01:29] <apokryphos> patbam: right
[01:29] <buzzy-> i resized data poartitions
[01:29] <daviey> patbam, shoudl work.  you want to update TO edgy?
[01:29] <patbam> jrib: head a splodes somewhat.
[01:30] <jacquesmerde> bigbro: i JUST installed ubuntu. /media/shared is where i mounted my fat32 partition. all its subdirectories have standard permissions: drwxrwx--- , but the one i fiddled with on my old distro has permissions dr-xr-x---. how did THAT come about?
[01:30] <patbam> er, that was supposed to be for everyone heh
[01:30] <patbam> daviey: well, i'm thinking about it :)
[01:30] <apokryphos> patbam: all of this is covered in the FAQ.
[01:30] <iltomee> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36987/
[01:30] <nata1> is there a apt package available for Mozilla Thunderbird?
[01:30] <MartySk_tch> buzzy How hard would it be to reset the partion back to the original size
[01:30] <apokryphos> nata1: yes
[01:30] <daviey> nata1, yes
[01:30] <nata1> whats it called?
[01:30] <bigbro> jacquesmerde: It will inherit the permissions you mount it with.
[01:30] <apokryphos> !package | nata1
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <apokryphos> !packages | nata1
[01:30] <nata1> cuz apt-get install thunderbird didnt work
[01:30] <ubotu> nata1: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:30] <buzzy-> MartySk_tch, ..?
[01:30] <apokryphos> nata1: use Synaptic.
[01:31] <nata1> apokryphos: whats that?
[01:31] <nata1> and where?
[01:31] <apokryphos> !synaptic
[01:31] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:31] <iltomee> jrib, this does not look good, does it?
[01:31] <daviey> MartySk_tch, thats probably not the problem.  I expect you have lost the MBR.  google should help.  failing that.  Installing ubuntu back ontop of the old ubuntu partition
[01:31] <apokryphos> nata1: in the menus
[01:31] <gbrent> I am tryying to add wwww-data in the sudoers file but do not want to mess it up and the man file is confusing. I jyst want www-data to be able to run the shudown command
[01:31] <gbrent> anyone help?
[01:32] <javaJake> At Automatix website - "If someone on #Ubuntu told you that Automatix caused a certain problem don't believe him/her. Its a known fact that the #Ubuntu channel spreads misinformation about Automatix."
[01:32] <biotrox> hi
[01:32] <apokryphos> javaJake: whatever
[01:32] <jrib> iltomee: have you used any other repositories or installed from deb packages ever?
[01:32] <biotrox> how am i able to make my webcam works..?
[01:32] <MartySk_tch> daviey is there an format option to restore the mbr?
[01:32] <javaJake> I think the bot's !automatix entry needs to be removed, then, if it's false.
[01:32] <apokryphos> javaJake: considering it isn't........
[01:32] <javaJake> apokryphos, Yea, how?
[01:32] <shiner421> oh good god HELP!!
[01:32] <jacquesmerde> bigbro: i'm just mounting the partition wholesale. WHERE is the information coming from to give different SUBdirectories in that partition different permissions?
[01:32] <jrib> automatix talk somewhere else please
[01:33] <apokryphos> javaJake: we've seen countless of broken systems from bad apt sources added, from bad package versions installed, etc
[01:33] <shiner421> ive pretty much trashed my system just now to the point of complete reinstall
[01:33] <iltomee> jrib: yeah, probably i did, i installed ubuntu 4 the 1. time a couple of month ago, and i was just messing around :(
[01:33] <shiner421> and im getting REAL sick of having to do this over and over
[01:33] <iltomee> jrib: i know i modified my source.list file a number of times
[01:33] <fenrig> I cant get it mount
[01:33] <apokryphos> javaJake: also the author of automatix has been VERY disenclined to take any pieces of advice from many of us and other ubuntu members.
[01:33] <tim167> after installing an upgrade ALL sounddevices dissapeared! is there a way to see what I upgraded last and/or downgrade ?
[01:33] <fenrig> i want to mount /dev/sda2
[01:33] <jrib> iltomee: ok, lets see if we can get to the root of the problem, join me in #ubuntu-classroom and we'll try a few commands
[01:33] <javaJake> apokryphos, ok
[01:33] <javaJake> Just checking to be sure. :P
[01:33] <shiner421> I have lost almost al lof my kernels
[01:33] <javaJake> shiner421, welcome to linux. ;)
[01:34] <daviey> MartySk_tch, don't know - but there are tools.  i aint used them though
[01:34] <javaJake> shiner421, no, linux isn't supposed to be like that, actually
[01:34] <shiner421> and it took me aq bunch of goofing around to even get x server to start
[01:34] <javaJake> shiner421, how did your computer get to this state?
[01:34] <fenrig> i cant get /dev/sda2 mounted
[01:34] <fenrig> and i need to
[01:34] <tim167> yesterday update notifier suggested to run an update, after that ALL sounddevices dissapeared, how can I fix this ?
[01:34] <fenrig> im in the live cd
[01:34] <shiner421> well, I want to use linux, but the fact is that it being this difficult to do the simplist things is why it will NEVER make it mainstream
[01:34] <shiner421> I was trying to get beryl to work
[01:34] <shiner421> I actually got it up to the splash screen
[01:35] <shiner421> then EVERYTHING froze
[01:35] <daviey> fenrig, are you sudo'ing it first ie sudo mount ....
[01:35] <fenrig> i've used su
[01:35] <shiner421> and now I cannot boot to the regular kernel
[01:35] <shiner421> the other 2 kernels I had installed disappeared
[01:35] <fenrig> and i have enabled the root
[01:35] <shiner421> and my nvidia driver no longer works
[01:35] <javaJake> shiner421, ew... sounds like your hard drive did something.
[01:35] <fallingdutch> is anyone here using svn on Ubunut6.10 amd64?
[01:35] <jacquesmerde> there must be some read-only bit for directories in fat32 like there is for files, yeah? anyone know how to change that?
[01:35] <shiner421> no, not the hard drive
[01:35] <shiner421> id bet an entire alienware computer on it
[01:36] <javaJake> shiner421, heheh
[01:36] <tim167> An update yesterday deleted all sounddevice configurations, can I downgrade or see what's been updated ? I dont know exactly what was installed or upgraded
[01:36] <javaJake> shiner421, ok, btw, you were using fglrx drivers right?
[01:36] <shiner421> huh?
[01:36] <shiner421> never heard of those
[01:36] <javaJake> shiner421, ok
[01:36] <fenrig> im in the terminal and im logged in as root
[01:36] <shiner421> u mean glx dreivers?
[01:36] <javaJake> shiner421, what does X use for 3D acell?
[01:36] <shiner421> nothing anymore :(
[01:36] <fenrig> but when i try to mount use
[01:36] <javaJake> shiner421, heh, no before
[01:36] <shiner421> ahh nvidia glx
[01:37] <javaJake> shiner421, ok... hmmm...
[01:37] <bimberi> tim167: /var/log/dpkg.log will have info on what was done
[01:37] <fenrig> it says permission denied
[01:37] <shiner421> and I never did quite figure out how I got it to work, and now I have to spend another 2 hours trying to redo it
[01:37] <shiner421> not to mention I am booted in safe mode at the moment
[01:37] <javaJake> shiner421, yea, I'd bet a million when you turned off your computer, the hard drive wrote over a bunch of stuff.
[01:37] <fenrig> nvidia xgl sucks
[01:37] <shiner421> nvidia glx is the only thing u can use when you have an nvidia card
[01:37] <fallingdutch> anyone here using svn and has installed ubuntu6.10?
[01:37] <ToHellWithGA> what command can i run to change the settings for xorg to allow new refresh rates and resolutions?
[01:37] <javaJake> shiner421, I mean, I installed Beryl (as has thousands others) and we've never hit that problem.
[01:38] <fenrig> now i need to reconfigure /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[01:38] <shiner421> I still dont know how to properly install stuff
[01:38] <shiner421> and on top of that
[01:38] <fenrig> but i cant get on my hard drive to fix it
[01:38] <shiner421> bah to heck with it
[01:38] <jrib> !xconfig | ToHellWithGA
[01:38] <ubotu> ToHellWithGA: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:38] <javaJake> shiner421, However, you turned off your computer (probably not the correct way - power button)
[01:38] <shiner421> I had no choice
[01:38] <javaJake> shiner421, heh, sorry, I really truly think when you turned off your computer incorrectly the hard drive did something.
[01:38] <shiner421> the logout button wouldnt work
[01:38] <daviey> How can i make my desktop appear a 16:9 output?
[01:39] <shiner421> NOTHING was responding after rebooting after installing beryl
[01:39] <prOMiNd> weeee
[01:39] <ToHellWithGA> thanks jrib
[01:39] <prOMiNd> hi all :D
[01:39] <javaJake> shiner421, there are methods to shutting down (the Raising Skinny Elephants Is Boring method)
[01:39] <shiner421> no menus, buttons, links, programs, etc.
[01:39] <shiner421> right but after I installed beryl, nothing worked
[01:39] <shiner421> I had no choice
[01:39] <fenrig> can sombody help?
[01:39] <shiner421> and now I dont know how to get ubuntu to even boot properly
[01:40] <javaJake> shiner421, yea, there's really nothing any of us can do here except tell you to back up your stuff and reinstall
[01:40] <shiner421> the kernels I installed are actually still there, but they dont show up in the menu.lst file
[01:40] <fenrig> how do i mount a harddrive on
[01:40] <fenrig> a live cd
[01:40] <shiner421> ok then my question is this:
[01:40] <shiner421> I am using 6.10 edgy
[01:40] <javaJake> Ye
[01:40] <apokryphos> prOMiNd: please turn that off.
[01:40] <javaJake> Yea*
[01:40] <biotrox> fenrig | just mount as usual
[01:40] <fenrig> it says
[01:40] <fenrig> permission denied even in root
[01:41] <daviey> fenrig, i told you.  mount /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx
[01:41] <fenrig> okey
[01:41] <echosystm> hmm, guys, ubuntu sees my hard drives on my raid controllers, but not as an array
[01:41] <shiner421> and once I reinstall, I want to setup multimedia (be able to stream video from firefox), get my video card drivers properly installed, and get the proper kernel that I should be running installed
[01:41] <echosystm> if i set them up as single disk arrays, could i use software raid?
[01:41] <shiner421> never did get gstreamer to work
[01:41] <shiner421> it always says something about mms not working
[01:41] <Unity> hi i am new, how to solve after 'apt-get install linux-686' on Dapper and reboot mouse & keyboard don't work, same problem straight after install of Edgy Eft
[01:41] <fenrig> bash: /dev/sda2: Permission denied
[01:41] <echosystm> or would performance suck due to the controller not having drivers etc. ?
[01:41] <shiner421> the linux-686 package is faulty
[01:42] <shiner421> it dont work
[01:42] <javaJake> shiner421, you want the generic kernel
[01:42] <fenrig> it doesnt wants to mount
[01:42] <daviey> fenrig, /dev/sda2 does exist?
[01:42] <fenrig> yeah
[01:42] <shiner421> isnt the generic kernel the one that has the fewest features and doesnt support the features of my processor?
[01:42] <fenrig> gparted says so
[01:42] <shiner421> I have a P4
[01:42] <Unity> shiner421:  is this true?
[01:42] <biotrox> fenrig | r u sure ? that sda2 really exist
[01:42] <shiner421> well, it dont work for me
[01:42] <javaJake> shiner421, I have a P3, and I still use the generic kernel
[01:43] <fenrig> yeah
[01:43] <fenrig> wait
[01:43] <daviey> fenrig, and your certain that the device IS sda2 and your are doing it as root?
[01:43] <shiner421> I tried and when I booted into the 686 kernel it didnt even get far enough to start an x server
[01:43] <javaJake> shiner421, besides the improvements over each are minor. :P
[01:43] <Unity> k thx
[01:43] <javaJake> shiner421, oh, really?
[01:43] <shiner421> exactly my point jake
[01:43] <javaJake> shiner421, before beryl?
[01:43] <shiner421> I want to use all the features of my processor
[01:43] <shiner421> yea
[01:43] <shiner421> before beryl
[01:43] <javaJake> shiner421, ewww... ok....
[01:43] <javaJake> shiner421, holy smokes
[01:44] <daviey> fenrig, do fdisk -l to see what is attached
[01:44] <shiner421> oh good god get this
[01:44] <roovis> I like Beryl :)
[01:44] <shiner421> now my synaptic package manager is GONE
[01:44] <javaJake> shiner421, rofl
[01:44] <shiner421> GRR I want to check out beryl!
[01:44] <gbrent> ccan someone help me write my sudoers file with visudo?
[01:44] <shiner421> but ubuntu is so buggy ill never get there
[01:44] <kurisutofuaa> How do I convert a .cdr image to .iso image?
[01:44] <javaJake> shiner421, "sudo apt-get remove --purge beryl*"
[01:44] <shiner421> as much as I hate windows, there is a reason it is so popular
[01:44] <roovis> shiner421: anticompetitive business practices?
[01:44] <gbrent> What do I do to test the Sudoers file before saving it?
[01:44] <daviey> shiner421, because it is supplied with most new machines?
[01:44] <Volstrup> does anybody know of a good graphical 'frontend' for managing which services to start at which runlevels with Ubuntu/Gnome?
[01:45] <roovis> daviey: right on :)
[01:45] <javaJake> shiner421, Windows has its uses, for sure. Linux is not for everyone. Windows is for the average user, while Linux is for the rest of us. :)
[01:45] <javaJake> shiner421, NOT to say that average users can't make the jump, but unless they either really want to or need to, they'll never stick with Linux.
[01:45] <johns^> javaJake: not true. Linux is for the people who want to get a job done
[01:45] <javaJake> In my Experience
[01:45] <shiner421> there is no reason linux has to be so difficult to use
[01:45] <daviey> javaJake, Correct!  numnuts should use it as 'users' so they can't break it!
[01:45] <echosystm> anyone?
[01:46] <apokryphos> !offtopic
[01:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:46] <Unity> i want to get gfx card installed lol
[01:46] <echosystm> running drives ona raid controller without drivers?
[01:46] <javaJake> apokryphos, oh fine
[01:46] <johns^> :) ask yourself this: how much work would it take to install beryl like functionality on XP
[01:46] <javaJake> :P
[01:46] <shiner421> what is the PROPER way to install a new kernel?
[01:46] <l3mr> hi, i upgraded from dapper to eft and noticed that there are no more 686-smp kernel images, only -generic. how can i get an image the does support smp?
[01:46] <javaJake> shiner421, apt-get install, or Synaptic.
[01:46] <roovis> a support channel?
[01:46] <shiner421> ive done 3d desktops n windows and its a LOT easier than ubuntu
[01:46] <pao> HI I have installed ubuntu on a powerpc but I have no ideo wheter I have a CD player or a CDRW how can I easily know ?
[01:46] <Volstrup> l3mr: all kernels now support smp
[01:46] <javaJake> l3mr, the generic kernel works for everything now
[01:46] <gbrent> Looks like this became an argument channel over linux Windows
[01:47] <Ekinoks> for a "AMD X2", what Ubuntu i need ? "Ubuntu PC" or "Ubuntu 64-bit PC" ?
[01:47] <javaJake> lol..
[01:47] <gbrent> Please argue in #windows
[01:47] <johns^> shiner421: on Fedora Core 6 xgl/3d stuff is a click away
[01:47] <Unity> any alternative to 'apt-get install linux-686' ?
[01:47] <shiner421> how can I have lost synaptic from my system menu?
[01:47] <bimberi> !generic | l3mr
[01:47] <ubotu> l3mr: Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[01:47] <l3mr> Volstrup: hmm, trying to boot generic doesn't work, it stops when "trying to get acpiid" right at the beginning ..
[01:47] <johns^> I guess on Ubuntu 7.0x it wil be no differend
[01:47] <shiner421> thats one distro I havent tried yet, and I am thinking about going that way
[01:47] <gbrent> can someone help me write my sudoers file with visudo?
[01:48] <Volstrup> l3mr: what cpu do you have?
[01:48] <cpk1> installing from debian debs shouldnt cause any problems right?
[01:48] <l3mr> pentium D 3.2
[01:48] <apokryphos> cpk1: of course it can
[01:48] <gbrent> cpk1: no
[01:48] <javaJake> johns^, 3D stuff on 7.0x will be different, actually, if what I've heard is true.
[01:48] <bimberi> cpk1: it can. what's the package?
[01:48] <johns^> I've got Dapper, Edgy en Core 6 running at the moment. Ubuntu is easyer to setup
[01:48] <shiner421> im gonna try to reboot into the regular linux-generic kernel, but chances are it wont be able to start an x server
[01:48] <cpk1> libxine
[01:48] <l3mr> it cannot find the uuid that ubuntu wants, and falls  back into busybox
[01:48] <gbrent> I have not had any issues
[01:48] <cpk1> there isnt a dapper backport for it
[01:48] <johns^> javaJake: link?
[01:48] <javaJake> shiner421, hold on a sec...
[01:48] <javaJake> johns^, yea, two moments
[01:48] <screechingcat> how do i add a userscript to the greasemonkey in epiphany ?
[01:48] <apokryphos> cpk1: mp3 codecs for xine?
[01:49] <shiner421> I think that synaptic is gone cause I am in safe mode
[01:49] <cpk1> no, the xine library
[01:49] <cpk1> i want to to play flacs in amarok
[01:49] <cpk1> 1.1.1 doesnt work
[01:49] <biotrox> i already detect my genius webcam
[01:49] <cpk1> need 1.1.2 or greater
[01:49] <apokryphos> cpk1: edgy has 1.1.2
[01:49] <biotrox> but i don't know how to use this device :P pls help
[01:49] <cpk1> yes, but I am running dapper and stubborn =P
[01:50] <javaJake> johns^, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/composite-by-default https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/accelerated-x
[01:50] <apokryphos> cpk1: I'm not sure why it's not working, it really should.
[01:50] <javaJake> johns^, I can't find the other one... there was one other one...
[01:50] <johns^> javaJake: thanks!
[01:50] <apokryphos> cpk1: your safest bet is recompiling the ubuntu debian src from the edgy package
[01:50] <javaJake> shiner421, Check to see what processes are running.
[01:50] <javaJake> shiner421, any ssh processes? How about apt-gets?
[01:50] <shiner421> I do believe I jsut removed EVERY instance of my nvidia driver
[01:51] <tim167> please help! alsa is not working after i installed an update how can I fix this
[01:51] <shiner421> ahh
[01:51] <shiner421> forgot how to check processes
[01:51] <daviey> shiner421, top
[01:51] <shiner421> yea ghehe I no longer have any video drivers installed
[01:51] <cpk1> apokryphos: just using apt-build you mean? and hoping it doesnt end up wanting to rebuild tons of other stuff
[01:51] <l3mr> booting the 386 kernel works, booting generic throws me into busybox, saying ALERT: /dev/disk/by-UUID/somelongnumbers doesn't exist
[01:51] <javaJake> shiner421, Well, there's the GUI way (System -> Administration -> System Monitor) or terminal way (ps -A)
[01:51] <javaJake> shiner421, another terminal way, (top) but that won't give you everything
[01:51] <shiner421> got around 12-15 processes running
[01:51] <_raphael_> why do I have to remove ubuntu-desktop in order to remove openoffice? I want to install debs from openoffice.org
[01:52] <shiner421> oh
[01:52] <javaJake> shiner421, you on livecd?
[01:52] <apokryphos> cpk1: with apt-get -b, yes, and hoping -- yup.
[01:52] <shiner421> no
[01:52] <javaJake> shiner421, k
[01:52] <shiner421> I am in the generic kernel resuemode
[01:52] <shiner421> *rescue mode
[01:52] <apokryphos> _raphael_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:52] <javaJake> shiner421, yep
[01:52] <shiner421> sh is running
[01:53] <shiner421> what I think I need to do now is reinstall my kernel and my nvidia drivers
[01:53] <javaJake> shiner421, kill it. (muhahahaha)
[01:53] <daviey> _raphael_, because ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package linking all required packages together.  If you remove one package the the virtual package isn't complete.  if it forces removal of ubuntu-desktop you will not loose gnome
[01:53] <shiner421> ok killed sh
[01:53] <javaJake> shiner421, I'm wondering if either an apt-get program is removing stuff, or someone got in and is making a mess, because to have programs disappearing like that is uncanny.
[01:54] <shiner421> I think its me
[01:54] <shiner421> I think its cause I am in rescue mode
[01:54] <shiner421> I am going to reboot
[01:54] <cpk1> apokryphos: so if in the event that fails is it relatively safe installing from a debian deb?
[01:54] <shiner421> if it dont work, I am going to bed and ill work on it after work tonight
[01:54] <edgy> Hi, how can I tell whether the OS installed is plain ubuntu or ubuntu server?
[01:54] <XCute4God> pls... anyone... ive tried to install BERYL and EMERALD themes in my Edgy 6.10, ATI X700 with 3D acceleration enabled, but the official guide didnt worked for me ;( ... anyone can help me?
[01:54] <_raphael_> daviey: so it is safe to remove, but I should reinstall it when I upgrade to feisty?
[01:54] <shiner421> for the love of god Xcute DONT! Lol
[01:54] <shiner421> J/K
[01:54] <apokryphos> cpk1: no, it's not ever really safe installing from a debian deb. Things are done differently there.
[01:55] <apokryphos> edgy: dpkg -l|grep desktop
[01:55] <apokryphos> !beryl | XCute4God
[01:55] <ubotu> XCute4God: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:55] <l3mr> what can i do to prevent grub in edgy to replace the root=/dev/sda1 with some weird UUID stuff when updating grub?
[01:55] <apokryphos> _raphael_: right
[01:55] <shiner421> thats what I dont get is when I install a kernel, it installs fine, but never updates the menu.lst file
[01:55] <shiner421> so you cant boot into it
[01:56] <javaJake> XCute4God, Compiz is supposedly smoother, faster, and more stable... look into that too.
[01:56] <edgy> apokryphos: but may be the person who installed it removed the -desktop package
[01:56] <apokryphos> edgy: well dpkg -l|grep gnome
[01:56] <apokryphos> or gtk
[01:56] <edgy> apokryphos: ok thanks
[01:57] <XCute4God> [javaJake] : hmmm
[01:57] <XCute4God> javaJake thanks
[01:58] <shiner421> WOOT! I did it!
[01:58] <shiner421> and I have no idea how LOL
[01:58] <shiner421> ok so I now have a running system again
[01:58] <daviey> wooohoo
[01:58] <astroman> is anyone knows where i can find awk version of unix command ??? like fold, head, tail, diff thx
[01:58] <shiner421> synaptic is back
[01:58] <shiner421> so how do I install my nvidia drivers?
[01:58] <shiner421> ill do this one step at a time
[01:58] <javaJake> shiner421, try the forums
[01:59] <shiner421> the forums did nothing but to confuse me further
[01:59] <shiner421> there were like 8 ways to install the drivers
[01:59] <kaur> my laptop's idle cpu temp is about 50 C and I don't know what is causing it
[01:59] <kaur> please help
[01:59] <javaJake> Holy SMOKES! Feisty's an Upgrade Maniac! I installed 9 updates and 10 minutes later 9 more are available... :P
[01:59] <kaur> sometimes it is 43 C and doesn't go higher
[02:00] <protocol1> is there a way to find out which graphics driver im using from console?
[02:00] <jrib> astroman: what do you mean?
[02:00] <HymnToLife> protocol1,    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver
[02:00] <javaJake> kaur, my temp is lucky to get to that point. :P
[02:00] <anwar> can anybody tell me the name of the package that is on the desktop CD that appears in system > administration as "Disks"?
[02:00] <HymnToLife> the last line it will return will most certainly be your graphics driver
[02:00] <anwar> need to install it via apt/synaptic
[02:01] <astroman> jrib : i need to find the bash command diff, fold, tail, head program with awk ???
[02:01] <javaJake> Here's the deal: I've got this here laptop running on a P3 processor. Now, this processor is supposed to be able to scale between two frequencies: 7xx MHz and 997MHz, but it is sticking at 997MHz in Feisty. How in the world to I get the thing unstuck? :)
[02:01] <kaur> javaJake: do u have any idea how to cool it?
[02:01] <johns^> HymnToLife: must by Driver
[02:01] <Rage__> javaJake: I used powernowd on my debian laptop...
[02:01] <johns^> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf is shorter
[02:02] <FreeNet> hi may i know how to install a *.bin file for example this game "PlaneShift_CBV0.3.017.bin"
[02:02] <jrib> astroman: ok, I'm not familiar enough with awk to understand the question, maybe someone else can help
[02:02] <FreeNet> it says it's for ubuntu
[02:02] <HymnToLife> grep is case insensitive I think
[02:02] <HymnToLife> but I might be wrong
[02:02] <astroman> thx anyway
[02:02] <johns^> FreeNet: sh *.sh
[02:02] <javaJake> kaur, mmm, no, the laptop should automatically decide when it is too hot and turn on a fan or something
[02:02] <javaJake> Rage__, powernowd... ok...
[02:02] <anwar> can anyone answer my question?
[02:02] <kaur> javaJake: it turns on the fan when it reaches 50, but it should not reach that high at all when idle
[02:02] <javaJake> johns^, lol
[02:02] <daviey> FreeNet, easyiest way is to burn it to cd
[02:03] <daviey> (i epect
[02:03] <daviey> FreeNet, BIN is normally a CD image
[02:03] <shiner421> ok, got my drivers installed
[02:03] <FreeNet> any way else without having to install to CD?
[02:03] <javaJake> kaur, ok, don't know what to say...
[02:03] <shiner421> now where did you say to go to PROPERLY install beryl?
[02:03] <javaJake> shiner421, wiki.beryl-project.com
[02:03] <javaJake> shiner421, and follow the AiGLX instructions.
[02:03] <shiner421> k thanks :)
[02:03] <kaur> javaJake: I've looked around in the forum and it seems that this is a common bug
[02:04] <javaJake> kaur, oh, ok...
[02:04] <javaJake> kaur, perhaps the problem is the same as mine - processor running at full speed even when idle. :P
[02:04] <anwar> hello??
[02:04] <shiner421> hmm wiki.beryl-project.com is no good
[02:04] <apokryphos> !beryl
[02:04] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:04] <kaur> javaJake: i had that problem and i solved it
[02:05] <javaJake> shiner421, WHAT!?
[02:05] <javaJake> kaur, oh, how?
[02:05] <FreeNet> is there any DVD drive emulator that i can use for the *bin?
[02:05] <kaur> javaJake: u aren't using the generic kernel by any chance?
[02:05] <javaJake> FreeNet, probably. Google it. :)
[02:05] <shiner421> yea it goes to some non related page
[02:05] <javaJake> kaur, yea
[02:05] <javaJake> shiner421, hmm, let me get you a direct link
[02:06] <kaur> javaJake: there seems to be a bug in it
[02:06] <halorgium> i have a "server" install of ubuntu
[02:06] <halorgium> if i want to get a "desktop" install
[02:06] <kaur> javaJake: use 686 kernel
[02:06] <halorgium> what do i need to do?
[02:06] <FreeNet> javaJake>	If telling people is the only thing you know.. then i'll say i can do a better job...
[02:06] <kaur> the goog old one
[02:06] <javaJake> kaur, mm, no, works in edgy, just not in feisty.
[02:06] <FreeNet> google.
[02:06] <johns^> FreeNet: mount -o loop <binfile> /mnt/
[02:06] <Samuli^> halorgium, sudo apt-get install (k)(x)ubuntu-desktop
[02:06] <kaur> javaJake: mine doesn't work in edgy
[02:07] <javaJake> FreeNet, I'm saying that because I know I've seen something for that for Windows in Google, so there's probably a Linux one.
[02:07] <halorgium> Samuli^: good, i'm doing that :)
[02:07] <johns^> FreeNet: but .bin files aren't often cd images.
[02:07] <kaur> javaJake: i think it's the Dual Core stuff that confuses it
[02:07] <johns^> unless it's windows :)
[02:07] <javaJake> kaur, uh, yea, I've got a P3, so no dual stuff happening here.
[02:08] <javaJake> shiner421, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[02:08] <shiner421> jake, right from the start the aiglx instructions dont work for me
[02:08] <shiner421> I cannot get a key
[02:08] <FreeNet> no john... no luck
[02:08] <shiner421> it says no valid openpgp data found
[02:09] <shiner421> its got some crazy symbols in the instructions
[02:09] <javaJake> shiner421, ok, well, you don't need the key. That's just to check to be sure hackers aren't trying to get into your system. Which is one in a million.
[02:09] <johns^> FreeNet: what did you try. The mount command or sh
[02:09] <kaur> is there a channel for laptop issues?
[02:09] <shiner421> I take it I dont want experimental packages?
[02:09] <FreeNet> mount
[02:09] <daviey> FreeNet, is the bin execuatble?  Try chmod +x xxx.bin      Then ./xxx.bin
[02:09] <FreeNet> sh not working too
[02:10] <johns^> output?
[02:10] <FreeNet> can alien work?
[02:10] <daviey> FreeNet, where did you get the bin file?
[02:10] <johns^> FreeNet: it's not a cd image, just looked at the website
[02:10] <FreeNet> download from planshift's site
[02:10] <johns^> it's a binary
[02:10] <FreeNet> it
[02:10] <FreeNet> it's for debian distro
[02:11] <johns^> it doesn't end on .sh huh? so the command should be sh *bin :)
[02:11] <javaJake> OK, that's wierd. My CPU just suddenly decided it was scaled and everything works now. :P
[02:11] <prOMiNd> any know website for send free sms- in all country ?!
[02:11] <prOMiNd> Oo :)
[02:12] <FreeNet> not working for sh *bin
[02:12] <ArCHoNKoG> is there any way you can restore /var/lib/dpkg
[02:12] <klm-> are firefox 1.X:s configurations (bookmark toolbar folder and mouse gestures) transportable to Firefox 2:s config folders?
[02:12] <daviey> prOMiNd, you'll struggle to get a reliable SMS site that doesn't attach adverts for free
[02:13] <prOMiNd> huh ?
[02:13] <kaur> what would be the best way to figure out why ny laptop's cpu temp is too high? Cpu usage seems to be normal
[02:14] <FreeNet> nvm guys... i think i'll have to sort out some other time... i can't find a good newsgroup client for reading my school newsgroup either.
[02:14] <FreeNet> i have to use my slower Windows System to do it now.
[02:14] <johns^> FreeNet: Knode
[02:14] <johns^> or slrn
[02:14] <johns^> :)
[02:15] <johns^> gui or cli
[02:15] <daviey> Anybody know how to easily set my desktop to be widescreen?
[02:15] <silentace> question about ubuntu... running it now almost fresh install... can ubuntu read fat32 and ntfs hard drives? what i want to be able to do is access my mp3's on my windows partition
[02:15] <compengi> how to check what's my kernel through the terminal?
[02:15] <shiner422> it did it again :(
[02:15] <daviey> silentace, yes
[02:15] <rapid> compengi: uname -a
[02:15] <cpk1> silentace: of course it can
[02:15] <shiner422> completely froze my system
[02:16] <shiner422> however
[02:16] <shiner422> when I rebooted
[02:16] <silentace> how do i mount my windows drives?
[02:16] <cpk1> silentace: its writing to it that can get tricky =)
[02:16] <shiner422> everything works fine now
[02:16] <rapid> silentace: man mount
[02:16] <shiner422> so thanks a TON jake :)
[02:16] <shiner422> your the man!
[02:16] <shiner422> I dont know why it froze
[02:17] <cpk1> silentace: sudo mount /dev/nodeofyourpartition /media/somefolderyoumade
[02:17] <biotrox> hello hello
[02:17] <shiner422> ubuntu automatically installed mounted and configured my windows partition
[02:17] <rapid> shiner422 thats nice
[02:17] <biotrox> can anybody help me with my webcam...?
[02:17] <rapid> biotrox possibly
[02:17] <shiner422> I got lucky
[02:17] <daviey> shiner422, only if attached at initital install
[02:17] <silentace> yeah when i did the install it had them on there and i was worried it would try and mess with them
[02:18] <shiner422> ahh
[02:18] <tim167> how do i DOWNGRADE my kernel ?
[02:18] <silentace> so i took them off
[02:18] <rapid> tim167 compile the kernel you want and install it. read the kernel-howto
[02:18] <biotrox> I can detect my usb webcam
[02:18] <biotrox> don't know how to integrated it with yahoo or msn
[02:18] <biotrox> or skype
[02:18] <daviey> use /dev/video0  (or something)
[02:19] <silentace> how do i find the partition nodes?
[02:19] <tim167> rapid: the problem is: i dont know exactly which one I had, i just lost all my sounddevices after upgrading via ubuntu update notifier yesterday
[02:19] <biotrox> use /dev/video0 where..?
[02:19] <biotrox> what application..?
[02:19] <shiner422> is jake gone? or just busy?
[02:19] <shiner422> I have to go, someone give him my thanks for his patience and assistance
[02:19] <shiner422> I REALLY appreciated it! and learned a lot :)
[02:20] <shiner422> I am one more step closer to losing windows finally!! woot!
[02:20] <shiner422> gnight all
[02:20] <cpk1> silentace: if the windows partitions are in the fstab you can just do sudo mount -a
[02:20] <rastilin> Anyone ever got qemu to compile with kqemu?
[02:20] <silentace> new to all this... what is fstab?
[02:20] <FreeNet> how do i find my newly installed knode? why it's not in the Application Menu Link?
[02:20] <halorgium> file system table
[02:20] <rapid> silentace its where all your drivers are mounted cat /etc/fstab
[02:21] <halorgium> silentace:
[02:21] <rapid> drives sorry
[02:21] <daviey> silentace, fdisk -l will list the partitions
[02:21] <biotrox> silentace | fstab is where you mount all your partitions
[02:21] <halorgium> rapid: no, it is where the configuration for the mounting is stored
[02:21] <biotrox> !fstab
[02:21] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:21] <biotrox> ya i mean that
[02:21] <halorgium>  /proc/mounts show the current mounts
[02:21] <rapid> halorgium that is what I meant.
[02:21] <itsmabus> Why does my computer stop responding when I remove the keyboard?
[02:22] <biotrox> rapid | how to use the /dev/video0
[02:22] <itsmabus> ie: it can't be pinged when the keyboard comes out
[02:22] <daviey> halorgium, did what rapid say make sense?! your being pedantic
[02:22] <rapid> itsmabus thats wierd.
[02:22] <rapid> biotrox make sure the program supports it
[02:22] <halorgium> daviey: what rapid said was completely different
[02:23] <halorgium> configuration != runtime
[02:23] <biotrox> rapid i don't know what program support video webcam
[02:23] <itsmabus> rapid: Yeah, I have 4 servers like this sitting here... 1 working keyboard.
[02:23] <itsmabus> 3 problems
[02:23] <daviey> halorgium, no *completely* different
[02:23] <rapid> Its the file that has the configuration where all the drives are mounted, same thing
[02:23] <TritonX> irc.ogame.net
[02:23] <halorgium> meh
[02:23] <halorgium> i thought it was a useful clarification
[02:24] <cypher1> how can one create a bootable dvd ?
[02:24] <rapid> burn a bootable image to it
[02:24] <daviey> halorgium, i disagree
[02:24] <halorgium> that's fine :)
[02:25] <spox> what is 8001 in " tc qdisc show dev ppp0" output and how one can control it?
[02:25] <itsmabus> Where do you statically manage your ip addresses in ubuntu?
[02:25] <rapid> spox: probably the port number.. looks like a streaming port, check /etc/services
[02:25] <Rage__> itsmabus: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:26] <spox> rapid: not sure - I have 8001 8002 and 8003 for tree discipline leafs
[02:26] <cypher1> rapid: ok but how do i create a bootable image ?
[02:26] <ArCHoNKoG> is there any way you can restore /var/lib/dpkg
[02:26] <biotrox> !xawtv
[02:26] <Rage__> itsmabus: you want static instead of dhcp. man that file.
[02:26] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 656 kB
[02:26] <rapid> cypher1 use a burning tool, k3b should suffice
[02:27] <cypher1> rapid: k3b will create a bootable image from an iso ?
[02:27] <rapid> if the iso has a boot able image contained for sure
[02:27] <rapid> cypher1
[02:27] <l3mr> i have an nvidia 8800 graphics card, which is not supported by the drivers in ubuntu edgy. If I try to install the drivers using the original nvidia auto installer package, it says it can't find the X directories...any ideas on how to get nvidia installer to solve this? or are there recent drivers available pre-packaged?
[02:27] <itsmabus> Rage__: thank, got it.
[02:27] <spox> qdisc sfq 8005: parent 1:101 limit 128p quantum 12187b perturb 10sec ---------- What's "8005" ??
[02:27] <rapid> l3mr take a look at nvidia site for your correct driver
[02:27] <tabman> using which utility can I extract .tgz & ps.gz files ?
[02:28] <spox> gunzup
[02:28] <l3mr> rapid: i did download the installer from there, but it cannot find the X directories it complains?
[02:28] <spox> gunzip
[02:28] <behdad> Hi folks , is there any knows that how can i get easyUbuntu ?
[02:28] <rapid> tar
[02:28] <spox> tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[02:28] <dabaR_> !easyUbuntu
[02:28] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:29] <behdad> thanks alot ,
[02:29] <age6racer> hey all... what's the command to invoke openoffice.org 2 from the terminal?
[02:29] <rickross> hi all, I have a new motherboard with a Realtek RTL8111 gigabit lan controller on it - the Edgy 64-bit install CD doesn't recognize
[02:29] <dabaR_> age6racer: oo<tab><tab>
[02:29] <jrib> age6racer: press oo<TAB><TAB>
[02:30] <rickross> is there a place to download a CD with latest 2.6.18 kernel on it already?
[02:30] <age6racer> jrib thanks
[02:30] <halorgium> rickross: are you running a core duo 2?
[02:30] <halorgium> haven't trouble getting installed?
[02:30] <HymnToLife> rickross, get Debian :)
[02:30] <dooglus> I just upgraded from dapper to edgy, and when I rebooted, my X display is corrupted and the virtual termnals are black-on-black
[02:30] <rickross> halorgium - yes, it is an E6600 on an Asus P5B-VM
[02:31] <dooglus> any suggestions?
[02:31] <halorgium> rickross: get the boot.img
[02:31] <rapid> rickross just compile the 2.6.18 kernel
[02:31] <halorgium> i went and got a usb stick and installed from that
[02:31] <uMISTA> ok apt-get says i have iptables intstall but when i trying the do /etc/init.d/iptables restart, it says its not there?
[02:32] <rickross> halorgium - is there a wiki page that describes what to do?
[02:32] <halorgium> rickross: yip
[02:32] <halorgium> it is on my winxp install
[02:32] <halorgium> which isn't booted atm
[02:32] <|markie|> during the desktop installation..  i dont have the option for a to install on a software raid.... is it possible to install or reconfigure the desktop to use software raid ?
[02:32] <halorgium> cause i'm actually just installing now!
[02:32] <halorgium> haha
[02:32] <rapid> rickross: why don't you get the source and compile it?
[02:33] <halorgium> rapid: he doesn't have an installation to do so from
[02:33] <rickross> rapid - the machine has no network conenctivity at all
[02:33] <rapid> rickross: get the boot.img then :)
[02:34] <rambo3> uMISTA man iptables
[02:34] <cdavis_> How do you get the rsa fingerprint of an  ssh server?  I mean when I ssh to it after I save the fingerprint, I dont know where to see that fingerprint anymore
[02:34] <rickross> rapid - any url that describes how to do that (haven't had to do it before)
[02:34] <uMISTA> ok apt-get says i have iptables intstall but when i trying the do /etc/init.d/iptables restart, it says its not there?
[02:34] <rapid> rickross: what distribution? ubuntu?
[02:35] <rickross> rapid - yes, Ubuntu Edgy 64-bit
[02:35] <jrib> cdavis_: ~/.ssh/known_hosts  I believe is where it is saved to
[02:35] <rambo3> uMISTA, and they never will be there
[02:35] <rapid> rickross: isn't the CD bootable?
[02:35] <uMISTA> so why do how to tell me type such a thing in?
[02:35] <rickross> the CD is bootable - does it already have 2.6.18 kernel sources on it?
[02:36] <rapid> rickross: not sure.
[02:36] <rapid> rickross: can't you do that once its installed.
[02:36] <halorgium> rickross: no
[02:36] <dooglus> what do I need to do to get an sshd running in edgy?
[02:36] <halorgium> rapid: no, the ide channels aren't detected :/
[02:36] <dooglus> I think I've installed the 'ssh' package.  do I need to edit any config files?
[02:36] <rapid> dooglus start the deamon "sshd"
[02:36] <jrib> it shoudl start after being installed
[02:36] <cdavis_> jrib, ya but they are not the same as the one that shows up when I type ssh?  are they just in a different format?
[02:37] <rambo3> uMISTA,  sudo iptables -L and see rules , you can flush add remove
[02:37] <dooglus> rapid: my display is corrupted, so I can't see what I'm doing.  I'm hoping to run sshd so I can fix it from a different box
[02:37] <jrib> cdavis_: not sure
[02:37] <rapid> dooglus type reset
[02:37] <dooglus> rapid: the X display is corrupted - it's like each like is 10 pixels too short, so everything's skewed diagonally across the screen
[02:37] <rickross> rapid - I don't have any network at all on the machine, and I am a relative noob when it comes to getting drivers in at install time
[02:37] <rapid> dooglus: press ctrl+alt+f1
[02:38] <dooglus> rapid: the virtual console windows are all black
[02:38] <rickross> usually I have been able to just apt-get whatever I needed
[02:38] <dooglus> no white text
[02:38] <bigbro> jacquesmerde: You should not be seeing different permissions in different subdirectories. Are you mounting over SAMBA, or mounting a local FAT32 drive?
[02:38] <rapid> dooglus: restart the X server with ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:38] <jrib> cdavis_: man 8 sshd   has info on the format
[02:38] <rapid> rickross: why do you need a 2.6.18 on the box if it will have no network access etc.
[02:38] <dooglus> rapid: I have done, but it comes back the same.  upgrading from dapper to edgy did this.
[02:39] <ArCHoNKoG> which one takes up more ram kde or gnome
[02:39] <jrib> ArCHoNKoG: probably about the same
[02:39] <rickross> rapid - I understand that the required network drivers may already be present in latest 2.6.18 version
[02:39] <apokryphos> ArCHoNKoG: it's probably not worth trusting anyone's answer to that
[02:39] <_raphael_> when will openoffice 2.1 (preferably norwegian) appear in the ubuntu repo(s)?
[02:39] <dooglus> rapid: I managed to get logged in using ssh.  the magic words were "sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start"
[02:39] <Samuli^> ArCHoNKoG, to me, KDE is slightly snappier feeling
[02:39] <rapid> dooglus cool
[02:39] <halorgium> rickross: you want the url?
[02:40] <apokryphos> ArCHoNKoG: though, see http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/
[02:40] <rickross> halorgium - yes, thanks
[02:40] <rapid> rickross: www.kernel.org
[02:40] <jacquesmerde> bigbro: local. i think i've screwed fat32 attributes with chmod somehow
[02:40] <usr_rob>  Which one gives best result: cdparanoia or cdda2wav ?
[02:40] <bigbro> jacquesmerde: I would say that's a distinct possibility, yes.
[02:41] <rickross> rapid - nothing more specific than that (a little like "use the internet")
[02:41] <rapid> rickross: whats wrong?
[02:41] <halorgium> rickross: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1805806
[02:41] <halorgium> nearer the bottom
[02:41] <bigbro> jacquesmerde: Try umounting and remounting it? Have you got any overlaid filesystems?
[02:41] <halorgium> have you got a window box?
[02:41] <dooglus> rapid: running a dpkg-reconfigure and accepting all the default values fixed it, too, so it's strange that the upgrade broke it!
[02:41] <rickross> rapid - nothing wrong, it's just a very general url - not particular to my question
[02:41] <halorgium> cause the boot.img you'll need to get the files on a linux box
[02:42] <halorgium> or someone could extract and zip em for ya
[02:42] <IMYojimbo> hi
[02:42] <rickross> what about prelim versions of Feisty?
[02:43] <apokryphos> what about it?
[02:43] <rickross> how stable is ubuntu in early stages of next release?
[02:43] <itsmabus> rapid: and now, even with a kvm switch... switching from one computer to the other with the scroll lock X2, up key combo freezes BOTH machines
[02:43] <IMYojimbo> Is someone arround here bored enough to team up and develop something?
[02:43] <apokryphos> rickross: it varies between releases. Edgy was very unstable throughout. Fesity of course will be very unstable now and for the upcoming few months
[02:44] <itsmabus> IMYojimbo: Probably not the best place to ask... ;) Why, what are you interested in?
[02:44] <rickross> so it's better to simply get latest kernel into a stock Edgy install?
[02:44] <IMYojimbo> itsmabus: i don't know, something in java maybe..? :)
[02:45] <jacquesmerde> bigbro: mounting and unmounting? i've deleted the entire linux distro that had mounted it, and reinstalled linux
[02:45] <itsmabus> IMYojimbo: I don't know a lick of anything outside of perl. Not that I'm unwilling to learn.
[02:45] <itsmabus> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:45] <IMYojimbo> itsmabus: you've got any ideas?
[02:45] <rizhun> ok, i've read the stuff on the wiki and downloaded the windows driver for my wireless card. i've installed it with ndiswrapper. but when i run a 'ndiswrapper -l' it says invalid driver..
[02:45] <bigbro> jacquesmerde: ANd what are you seeing?
[02:45] <bigbro> jacquesmerde: What permissions are wrong?
[02:46] <rizhun> if i look at the ndisgtk it says no hardware
[02:46] <rizhun> but i can see the card in an lspci...
[02:46] <itsmabus> IMYojimbo: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:46] <rizhun> can anyone tell me where i'm going wrong here?
[02:46] <jacquesmerde> the writability permissions. i just chmod'ed them all writable, i just hope it fixed the fat32 attributes
[02:47] <dooglus> !info apt-file
[02:47] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[02:47] <frogzoo> jacquesmerde: chmod doesn't work with fat32 - use mount options instead
[02:47] <dooglus> aah - universe..  I was forgetting about that...
[02:48] <pablo> hi, i have a problem, my machine detects the wireless but it says disconected, with the live cd it worked correctly
[02:48] <ReTyPe> i dont have the powerdown button anymore, how do i readd it to the shutdwon/logoff window ?
[02:48] <jacquesmerde> frogzoo: chmod MUST do soemthing to fat32 ouside the mount. its the ONLY way this makes sense
[02:49] <dooglus> pablo: are you using a 686 kernel?
[02:49] <rizhun> can anyone help me to get ubuntu to recognise my wireless card?
[02:49] <dooglus> pablo: the live CD worked for me (with a 386 kernel) and won't connect to my wireless card if I use a 686 kernel
[02:49] <jrib> jacquesmerde: the permissions won't be there next time you mount
[02:50] <pablo> dooglus: yes something similar, but where do i chose the kernel
[02:50] <jacquesmerde> jrib: they must be. they even withstand a complete deleting of linux
[02:50] <frogzoo> jacquesmerde: pass 'umask=0000' as an option in /etc/fstab & remount
[02:50] <dooglus> pablo: at boot time, hit escape to see the menu
[02:51] <jacquesmerde> nah, i dont do stuff i dont understand
[02:51] <pablo> dooglus: once ubuntu installed?
[02:51] <chibiace> anybody got a screwdriver?
[02:51] <rizhun> dooglus, you can choose which kernel to run at startup?
[02:52] <jrib> jacquesmerde: what does "that" mean exactly?  What permissions?
[02:52] <vlt> Hello. I installed lvm2 via aptitude. When I try to execute one of lvm's commands in /sbin/ (that btw. are all symlinks to a binary called lvmperversion or similar) an error msg "No program lvfoobar found for your current version of LVM" appears. What does it mean?
[02:52] <frogzoo> !ntfs | jacquesmerde
[02:52] <ubotu> jacquesmerde: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:53] <pablo> dooglus: so ubuntu live cd uses 386 kernel and it installs a 686 kernel and thats why with the live cd it works and once installed not?
[02:53] <k3k0> hola alguien ke hable espaol
[02:53] <dooglus> pablo: once it's installed, yes.  it will install the 'grub' boot loader.  as it starts booting, it'll day "esc for menu" and count down (from 3 I think).  hit esc to see a list of installed kernels
[02:53] <ProN00b> jacquesmerde, seriously chmod doesn't work on fat32 because it simply doesn't support it
[02:53] <dooglus> pablo: I don't know if it installs a 386 or 686 kernel by default, and I don't know if you're having the same problem as me, either.
[02:54] <jacquesmerde> well, SOMEthing in linux seems to alter native fat32 attributes. its the only thing that would explain it...
[02:54] <jrib> jacquesmerde: what are the native fat32 attributes you are talking about?
[02:54] <pablo> dooglus: ok thanks, i will try
[02:54] <ProN00b> jacquesmerde, as a workarround some default set of chmod are displayed/used, which are set when the partition is mounted
[02:55] <jacquesmerde> that allocated bit in files in fat32
[02:55] <frogzoo> jacquesmerde: nope - once fat's mounted, linux assumes all files have the same permission
[02:56] <jacquesmerde> i've mounted a fat32 partition, and obviously changed attributes to the fat32 partition, coz when i unmounted, deleted linux, reinstalled, remounted, the permissions were the same, and fat32 aint get no permissions
[02:56] <ProN00b> jacquesmerde, look in /etc/fstab (for example, my fat32 disk has defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 as options (umask is chmod))
[02:56] <biotrox> !nvidia
[02:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:56] <pablo> dooglus: there is only one type of kernel
[02:56] <ProN00b> well, the archive bit could change, dunno about that, but the permissions don't change
[02:57] <jacquesmerde> ProN00b: the problem is with different directories inside the partition having different "permissions", fstab mounts the partition wholesale
[02:57] <ProN00b> jacquesmerde, what is the problem ?
[02:57] <ProN00b> jacquesmerde, that can't happen, all dirs+files on the disk should have the same permissions once mounted
[02:57] <dooglus> pablo: the other thing to make sure is that you have the corresponding 'linux-restricted-modules-...' kernel installed.
[02:58] <gnu> hi when I try to copy files from a dvd in some cases it says: error i/o when copying
[02:58] <dooglus> s/kernel/package/
[02:58] <gnu> anyone knows what to do?
[02:59] <klm-> if I paste a bunch of lines (separated with enter) into terminal, will it process all of them?
[02:59] <pablo> dooglus: what should i do, with the live cd it worked and now that it is installed no
[03:00] <dooglus> pablo: run "dpkg -l | grep linux-rest" and paste me the output
[03:00] <FYI> hello, I've searched and searched, but I cannot find out how to delete a custom emblem
[03:00] <jacquesmerde> ProN00b: EXACTLY! but thats not what happened!!!
[03:00] <jacquesmerde> ProN00b: the mount must have been responding to fat32 attributes
[03:01] <ReTyPe> i dont have the powerdown button anymore, how do i readd it to the shutdwon/logoff window ?
[03:01] <ThePub> FYI: as in under nautilus?
[03:01] <FYI> ThePub: yes
[03:01] <buzzy> hello
[03:01] <buzzy> how can i configura grub menu.lst ?
[03:01] <vlt> vlt: When you try to execute one of lvm's commands and an error msg "No program lvfoobar found for your current version of LVM" appears it could be because of a kernel compiled w/o LVM support ;-)
[03:01] <HymnToLife> buzzy, edit it in your favourite text editor
[03:01] <Navyseal> video editor for ubuntu?
[03:01] <ReTyPe> buzy: with sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:01] <dooglus> which kernel do I need in edgy to take advantage on my dual-core processor?
[03:01] <lnx^_> heya
[03:02] <ProN00b> jacquesmerde, dunno, the archive bit or some crap might have been set, but i am pretty damn sure you can't chmod there
[03:02] <FYI> I did "updatedb" and then tried to "locate" the name of it
[03:02] <dooglus> I have linux-image-generic, but it doesn't seem to notice both cores
[03:02] <HymnToLife> dooglus, the "generic" kernel does
[03:02] <lnx^_> is anyone aware of any fonts very similar to Book Antiqua in linux?
[03:02] <arias> anyone who is good at fixing with dual screens ?
[03:02] <jrib> Navyseal: kino is one
[03:02] <Navyseal> no
[03:02] <buzzy> HymnToLife, ReTyPe  yes i know, but i don't know what to write in it!!
[03:02] <lnx^_> or is there any guide for installing that font for openoffice?
[03:02] <Navyseal> jrib another
[03:02] <lnx^_> i couldn't find out how to install truetype fonts in ubuntu
[03:02] <HymnToLife> buzzy, depends on what you want to do ^^
[03:02] <dooglus> HymnToLife: I'm looking in /proc/cpuinfo and it's telling me I have 1 core
[03:02] <jacquesmerde> man, i'm 404'ing on easyubuntu's gpg thingy. this temporary?
[03:02] <lnx^_> it's a freeware ttf font so i guess it should be possible to install it somehow
[03:03] <gnu> error i/o when copying any ideas?
[03:03] <pablo> dooglus: linux-restricted modules-generic res
[03:03] <ThePub> FYI: so define "delete a custom emblam" a little more.  do you want to remove an emblem from an icon?  remove an emblem that's option, but available?
[03:03] <HymnToLife> lnx^_, installing TTFs in Linux is pretty easy, search the Wiki for it, I think you should find somethingf
[03:03] <pablo> dooglus: linux-restricted modules-common non
[03:03] <lnx^_> HymnToLife: okiedokie
[03:03] <pablo> dooglus: linux-restricted modules-2.6.17-10-generic non
[03:03] <buzzy> ok guys i have linux and windows in the same HD (partitioned) now want to configure grub so that i can choose if to boot with win or linux... HymnToLife
[03:03] <dooglus> pablo: can you pastebin the actual output?
[03:03] <dooglus> !paste
[03:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <FYI> ThePub, sorry... I added an emblem thru "edit>backgrounds and emblems> add new emblem", but I used the wrong image... but now I can't delete it
[03:04] <jrib> Navyseal: apt-cache search video editor
[03:04] <pablo> dooglus: it doesnt has internet
[03:04] <HymnToLife> buzzy, doesn't it give you the choice by default ?
[03:04] <daviey> I want xscreensaver to excute a shell script when it activates and exits.  Without writing my own screensaver... how could i do it?
[03:05] <dooglus> pablo: maybe you can find a cable somewhere?
[03:05] <nzhomie> can anybody help me with wifi and wpa ?
[03:05] <dooglus> nzhomie: what's the problem?
[03:05] <buzzy> HymnToLife, i have configured it wrongly
[03:05] <nzhomie> well i have wpa_supplicant installed and i am not sure wher to go from there
[03:05] <nzhomie> any links to help me out
[03:06] <andrea> Is there any way to record keystrokes in X-Window if no keylogger is installed, but X session is not over yet?
[03:06] <andrea> or to recover keystrokes better....
[03:06] <dooglus> nzhomie: I went through this process yesterday.
[03:06] <nzhomie> yourself?
[03:06] <lnx^_> HymnToLife: didn't find anything
[03:07] <nzhomie> or for someone else?
[03:07] <dooglus> nzhomie: the end result was to edit /etc/networking/interfaces and have these 4 lines for the wireless interface:
[03:07] <dooglus> 1. iface wlan0 inet dhcp  2. wpa-ssid linksys  3. wpa-proto WPA  4. wpa-psk "mypass"
[03:07] <lnx^_> HymnToLife: i probably just suck at searching
[03:07] <HymnToLife> lnx^_, all right, hold on a sec, I'll launch a GNOME and tell you
[03:07] <dooglus> nzhomie: where 'linksys' is the ssid and 'mypass' is the password - keep the double quotes there
[03:07] <uMISTA> what does 192.168.0./24 mean
[03:08] <dooglus> uMISTA: it means you've missed a digit after the 3rd '.'?
[03:08] <buzzy> HymnToLife, i have configured it wrongly
[03:08] <buzzy> so how do i do?
[03:08] <Murchadh> uMISTA, 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.255
[03:09] <der0b> Heya folks, is there a tool for realtime monitoring of a single program's resource usage?
[03:09] <uMISTA> thkz
[03:09] <HymnToLife> buzzy, pastebin your current file as well as the output of      sudo fdisk -l    <= mark it's a lowercase L, not an uppercase i
[03:09] <nzhomie> dooglus: i have the lines auto eth0
[03:09] <nzhomie> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[03:09] <nzhomie> auto eth1
[03:09] <nzhomie> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[03:09] <nzhomie> auto eth2
[03:09] <nzhomie> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[03:09] <nzhomie> auto ath0
[03:09] <nzhomie> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[03:09] <HymnToLife> !pastebin | nzhomie
[03:09] <ubotu> nzhomie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:09] <gnu> error i/o when I copied some files from dvd any help?
[03:09] <dooglus> nzhomie: run 'iwconfig' to see which is your wireless interface
[03:10] <buzzy> HymnToLife, sorry i discovered that if i boot into windows i get: NTLDR is missing !!!
[03:11] <HymnToLife> buzzy, boot from a Win XP CD, go to a recovery console and run      fixboot c:
[03:11] <dooglus> !ati
[03:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:12] <lnx^_> HymnToLife: only copying the ttf files to /usr/share/fonts worked
[03:12] <buzzy> HymnToLife,  ok
[03:12] <lnx^_> HymnToLife: not sure if that's the 'correct' way though
[03:12] <nzhomie> dooglus: when i configured ndiswrapper i made my wireless connection wlan0
[03:12] <jacquesmerde> how do i make a chmod a+w on a directory recursive?
[03:12] <HymnToLife> lnx^_, if it works, it's all that matters
[03:12] <buzzy> HymnToLife,  it is /dev/hda1 (windows partition ) but i m not sure it is C:\ or F:\
[03:12] <lnx^_> right :P
[03:13] <HymnToLife> the XP recovery console will tell you
[03:13] <gnu> anyone knows how to solve this? error i/o when I try to copy files from a cd?
[03:13] <nzhomie> dooglus: i just ran iwconfig and my wireless connection is listed but i am not connected to any networks
[03:13] <blackflare> hi
[03:13] <HymnToLife> gnu, any CD or a specific one ?
[03:14] <HymnToLife> !hi | blackflare
[03:14] <ubotu> blackflare: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:14] <gnu> that's a backup dvd that I made when I had windows
[03:14] <blackflare> um, not a popular question im sure, but how do I properly uninstall ubuntu? I had it on a totally seperate harddrive and I reformatted it, and when I restarted recently it gave me some errors about GRUB (I have windows xp on the other disk)
[03:15] <HymnToLife> blackflare, boot from a Win XP CD, go to a recovery console and run     fixmbr
[03:15] <blackflare> oh thanks
[03:15] <ThePub> FYI: sorry, only have a single disk and I'm copying several GBs back and forth (very slow here)  :)
[03:15] <gnu> Hymn to life: that's a backup dvd that I made when I had windows
[03:16] <ThePub> FYI: if you scroll to the bottom of the emblems list there's an "erase" icon.. just drag it over the emblem in question.
[03:16] <HymnToLife> if ignu, if it works on any other disc but not on that particular one, I think it just got damaged someho
[03:16] <blackflare> I wish I could have made ubuntu work :/ I just couldnt get some things working I needed :(
[03:16] <nzhomie> but in my interfaces i have my acess point listed and my corret password but it will not connect
[03:16] <HymnToLife> w*
[03:16] <nzhomie> what did you need working ?
[03:16] <HymnToLife> blackflare, did you ask for help with it ?
[03:16] <blackflare> well
[03:16] <blackflare> I needed a tv program, I had tv time
[03:16] <nzhomie> yeah us here will help you as best as we could
[03:16] <blackflare> but it randomly stopped finding a signal
[03:17] <nzhomie> personallly i would have tried mythtv
[03:17] <blackflare> I also had problems with ventrilo
[03:17] <blackflare> I got it running in wine but it had terrible sound quality
[03:17] <nanda> hi
[03:17] <nanda> what is the fastest cd ripper available?
[03:18] <HymnToLife> nanda, cdparanoia
[03:18] <HymnToLife> with whatever frontend you want, I perosnnaly use abcde
[03:18] <nanda> HymnToLife: thnx, will check it out now
[03:18] <Narada> hi anyone got home and end keys working in ubuntu in eterm?
[03:18] <HymnToLife> !abcde
[03:18] <ubotu> abcde: A Better CD Encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.99.5-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 300 kB
[03:18] <blackflare> lol cute name
[03:18] <nanda> will also check out abcde
[03:19] <HymnToLife> cdparanioa is just the ripper
[03:19] <MarcN> nanda: grip is nice if you want a gui
[03:19] <HymnToLife> abcde is a tool that uses cdparanioa for ripping then other tools for encoding
[03:19] <nanda> ok
[03:19] <HymnToLife> !cdparanoia
[03:19] <ubotu> cdparanoia: An audio extraction tool for sampling CDs. In component main, is optional. Version 3a9.8-13 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 116 kB
[03:19] <MarcN> nanda: same for grip.  It is the UNIX way -- use bunch of little tools to get the job done.
[03:19] <nanda> so cdparanoia will just give wav files?
[03:20] <nanda> then I can use lame or something?
[03:20] <HymnToLife> just use abcde
[03:20] <mulander[ubuntu] > hi all.
[03:20] <HymnToLife> it will do all of it for you and give you nice OGG
[03:20] <nanda> ok
[03:20] <HymnToLife> or MP3 if you don't like freedom ;)
[03:20] <nanda> lol
[03:20] <nanda> unfortunatly I have an ipod
[03:20] <foxy123> Trevinho
[03:20] <nanda> so gotta go the mp3 route for now
[03:21] <nothlit> People want the fastest ripper rather than the most accurate?
[03:21] <mulander[ubuntu] > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High  Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) <-- I have some trouble with this card, installing ubuntu edgy eft for my friend - we have no sound - could anyone help specyfy what could possibly cause the problems whe are having?
[03:22] <Razdaman> Hi guys.. how do I install Firefox on an Ubuntu Dapper installation?
[03:22] <Razdaman> I mean - Firefox 2
[03:22] <Narada>  /join #enlightenment
[03:22] <|markie|> is it possible to nstall ubuntu desktop with software raid support?
[03:22] <Narada> sigh sorry
[03:22] <HymnToLife> Razdaman, thare is a Wiki page about it, it's called FirefoxNewVersion
[03:22] <Razdaman> HymnToLife> thanks.. will check it out
[03:23] <HymnToLife> basically, get the archive from mozilla.com, extract it somewhere (preferably in /opt) and update a bunch of symlinks
[03:23] <blackflare> =/ Im having problems
[03:23] <biotrox> !webcam
[03:23] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:23] <blackflare> I put in a windows cd and tried to boot from it and it ignores my keyboard
[03:24] <HymnToLife> USB keyboard ?
[03:24] <blackflare> yes
[03:24] <HymnToLife> get a PS/2
[03:24] <maniacxs> Hi there, I am searching on a (k)ubuntu the drop_caches switch. This should not be a kernel config option. i am not able to find it in /proc/sys/vm/
[03:24] <gtapsycho> or maybe a driver
[03:25] <eyalw> Hi, im looking for a visual html editor, is there a good open source one for ubuntu?
[03:25] <nothlit> !nvu | eyalw
[03:25] <nanda> eyalw: try quanta+
[03:25] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB
[03:25] <stefg> cough... closest thing to Frontpage would be nvu ....
[03:26] <nanda> don't know why you would want anything close to frontpage..
[03:26] <xipietotec> is there a linux version of arachnophilia?
[03:26] <nanda> that thing is a pos
[03:26] <maniacxs> eyalw: quanta+ is not a wysiwyg editor.
[03:26] <s-toned> I didn't get dapper to work with my Matrox G550DH (only vesa, no xinerama). So I installed breezy again. Is my only option to switch to nvidia to get a working xinerama installation? (Acceleration would be better anyway.)
[03:27] <HymnToLife> if you have a MAtrox, I doubt nvidia drivers will work...
[03:27] <Igor_V2> anybody knows a good video player for Ubuntu?
[03:28] <HymnToLife> Xine
[03:28] <Igor_V2> xine?
[03:28] <HymnToLife> with whatever frontend you want, I personnaly use Kaffeine
[03:28] <puk_jp> vlc
[03:28] <Igor_V2> how i install all the plugins for kafeine?
[03:28] <Carolinamusicman> MPlayer is another good video player
[03:29] <HymnToLife> you might want to use gxine or totem as a frontend for xine if you're in GNOME
[03:29] <blackflare> woo, fixing the boot record worked, thanks hymn
[03:29] <daviey> Is there a way i can play a video/dvd as a screensaver?
[03:29] <blackflare> while Im on the subject though, how do I get my computer to recognize a usb keyboard preboot?
[03:30] <nothlit> daviey, lol I know how to do it as a background with xgl/aiglx
[03:30] <Igor_V2> thanks guys....i've never used totem...i'll try it
[03:30] <HymnToLife> blackflare,  no idea, I stay as far away of those as I can
[03:30] <nothlit> totem-xine is much nicer than totem-gstreamer
[03:31] <HymnToLife> Igor_V2, be sure to have totem-xine and not totem-gstreamer
[03:31] <daviey> nothlit, hmm.  i have a fullscreen app running most of the time - so that might not work.  Thanks anyway.  Is there a way to load mplayer as part of the screensaver
[03:31] <Telcia> !bluetooth
[03:31] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:31] <humbolt> what do I have to configure on the server to log from my firewall to a debian linux server (firewall offers to enter a syslog ip)?
[03:31] <blackflare> haha oh well
[03:31] <blackflare> I have a ps/2 one right here as well so I can always swap I suppose
[03:31] <FYI> Anyone know how to delete custom emblems once added
[03:32] <blackflare> I may try ubuntu again someday when Im in a better mood :| lol
[03:33] <VSpike> blackflare: usually there is a setting in the BIOS for USB keyboard & mouse emulation
[03:33] <blackflare> ah
[03:34] <nzhomie> /etc/init.d/ifplugd: command not found ??????? is this a standard dir?
[03:36] <x-r00t-x> wake up guys
[03:36] <nzhomie> i rekon
[03:36] <ThePub> nzhomie: /etc/init.d are init scripts, not directories
[03:36] <x-r00t-x> nzeembo, excuse me ?
[03:36] <Igor_V2> hey...how i get all the plugins for totem?
[03:36] <biotrox> rapid | yes my webcam works.. i use camorama
[03:37] <Igor_V2> hey...how i get all the plugins for totem? with apt-get ?
[03:37] <nzhomie> ifplugd is not in there
[03:37] <nzhomie> how do i get it there
[03:37] <rapid> biotrox: cool.. good stuff :)
[03:38] <biotrox> rapid | how to integrate my webcam with gaim..?
[03:38] <eyalw> hi, i need an html (not source, but visual)  editor
[03:38] <nzhomie> Igor_V2 there is a lib command that you have to type but i am not sure of it
[03:38] <kauef> conect
[03:38] <FYI> eyalw use gedit
[03:38] <rapid> biotrox, does gaim even support it yet? i'm not sure.
[03:39] <nzhomie> what about aMSN
[03:39] <eyalw> FYI: i said i need a vidual editor, not source
[03:39] <FYI> ahhh sorry
[03:39] <biotrox> rapid, then what s/w must i use for the messenger that supports web cam?
[03:39] <eyalw> FYI: i wanna drag buttons in...
[03:39] <nzhomie> try aMSN
[03:39] <genix> hello
[03:39] <nzhomie> hi
[03:39] <rapid> eyalw, check out quanta plus with kde
[03:39] <ThePub> nzhomie: I'm just guessing, but maybe it's part of the "ifplugd" package.  If you've installed it already and it's not there, then why'd you remove it? :)
[03:39] <john76> why would you use a visual editor in linux? if your on linux don't you know better
[03:40] <biotrox> nzhomie is there an msn messenger for ubuntu..?
[03:40] <eyalw> rapid: i did checked it out, but it source editing, not cisual editing
[03:40] <john76> they produce horrid looking code
[03:40] <Igor_V2>  anybody knows the command to get plugins for totem
[03:40] <FYI> Anyone know how to delete emblems added through "Backgrounds and Emblems"
[03:40] <genix> what is the difference beterrn "newest version" and "long-term support"?
[03:40] <ThePub> FYI: I answered your question.
[03:40] <rizhun> hey, i've just downloaded a metacity theme, i've un-tar'd it and its a load of png's and some xml files.  how do i install it? System > Preferences > Themes says its an invalid file type.
[03:40] <FYI> ThePub: I didn't get it, could you send it again??
[03:40] <nzhomie> the pub : i am trying to configure wpa_supplicant and it is not working there is a command that i type into terminal and it says invalid
[03:41] <Igor_V2>  anybody knows the command to get plugins for totem???
[03:41] <ThePub> rizhun: don't unpack it, just drag the archive to themes :)
[03:41] <nzhomie> biotrox
[03:41] <nzhomie> :
[03:41] <HymnToLife> Igor_V2, which totem and which plugins ?
[03:41] <rizhun> ThePub, I'll give it a try...
[03:41] <Igor_V2> totem-xine
[03:41] <dooglus> I'm not having any luck getting a bluetooth mouse connected using bluezutils.
[03:41] <Igor_V2> plugins for .avi
[03:41] <dooglus> I See: hidd --connect 00:07:61:4D:FB:78
[03:41] <dooglus> Can't get device information: Host is down
[03:41] <genix> what is the difference beterrn "newest version" and "long-term support"?
[03:41] <kauef> hello
[03:41] <HymnToLife> Igor_V2, libxine-extracodecs will already give you lots of stuff I think
[03:41] <ThePub> biotrox: "gaim" in the "internet" folder under applications doesn't work for you?
[03:41] <dooglus> genix: long-term support is supported longer...
[03:41] <kauef> Plix i wanna know one thing someone can help me?
[03:42] <dooglus> genix: the newest version is newer
[03:42] <genix> what does this mean?
[03:42] <genix> supported longer?
[03:42] <Igor_V2> ok
[03:42] <Igor_V2> ill try....thanks
[03:42] <HymnToLife> means it will get security updates for a longer period
[03:42] <kauef> someone have Gaim!?
[03:42] <dooglus> genix: security fixes and such like will be released for longer
[03:42] <rizhun> ThePub, if i chose the .tar file, or drag and drop it onto themes, it just says 'invalid file format'
[03:42] <nzhomie> aMSN is conpatible with ubuntu i have it running on my laptop you can either google it or download a program called automatix which is like apt and you can get aMSN from there too
[03:42] <genix> at the moment i have debian...
[03:42] <erchache> hi
[03:43] <HymnToLife> !amsn
[03:43] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[03:43] <biotrox> thepub what do you mean exactly..?
[03:43] <nzhomie> y on a ubuntu irc then ?
[03:43] <genix> but the debs are coming out late...
[03:43] <genix> is it different with ubuntu?
[03:43] <nzhomie> huh?
[03:43] <ThePub> biotrox: you asked for an msn client.  gaim is an IM client that handles multiple protocols, including MSN.  It's very stable too.  :)
[03:43] <HymnToLife> genix, go to #debian then :)
[03:44] <FYI> ThePub: the erase icon is used to remove emblems from a file/folder... it's not used to remove the emblems from your system itself :-/
[03:44] <erchache> i have a sun fire v65x with ubuntu
[03:44] <erchache> and a hard disk has yellow led
[03:44] <genix> thats why i asking... if its better with ubuntu then i switch to ubuntu :)
[03:44] <ThePub> rizhun: where'd you get the theme?  I've never had an issue with a properly packaged archive just dragging the file onto the themes list.  Gnome has a standard theme package format.
[03:44] <erchache> i have smartmontools installed and running
[03:44] <erchache> is it secure? or need to change hard disk?
[03:44] <rizhun> I got the theme from gnome-look.org
[03:44] <HymnToLife> genix, are you happy with DEbian ? If so, there's no reason to switch
[03:44] <biotrox> thepub, yes thanks i'm using gaim right now.. but that's not the Question. the question is what messenger s/w in ubuntu that webcam enable
[03:44] <ThePub> rizhun: you don't unpack anything for a theme.  download the archive and add it to themes by dragging onto the window.
[03:45] <biotrox> nzhomie amsn is a 15.2MB package :(
[03:45] <biotrox> can't download it
[03:45] <biotrox> to big
[03:45] <rizhun> mmm
[03:45] <nzhomie> bandwith?
[03:45] <HymnToLife> !amsn
[03:45] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[03:45] <nzhomie> wb gaim ?
[03:45] <HymnToLife> methinks amsn is 2.2 MiB, not 15
[03:45] <ThePub> rizhun: if this theme you've downloaded does not do that, then you'll ahve to repackage it yourself :)
[03:45] <DarthLappy> HymnToLife: TCL?
[03:45] <ThePub> rizhun: there's also a ".themes" folder in your home directory
[03:45] <biotrox> amsn ++ lib etc etc
[03:46] <HymnToLife> DarthLappy, I beg your pardon ?
[03:46] <aberry> heya, anyone know anything about ubuntu live cd having problems with an x800 graphics card? :S
[03:46] <nzhomie> genix : i am a beginner to linux i have tried, pclinuxos, xfce, opensuse, fedora. and from my view ubuntu is the best distro avalible
[03:46] <rizhun> ThePub, what is that .themes folder all about?
[03:46] <DarthLappy> HymnToLife: aMSN: Written in tcl. Gotta dowload tcl for aMSN then. :P
[03:46] <erchache> aberry: use vesa and download lastest module kernel
[03:46] <HymnToLife> oh, didn't know that
[03:47] <aberry> erchache, surely you have to be able to boot ubuntu to do that?
[03:47] <biotrox> genis | yes ubuntu is the best, I also tried mandriva, suse, centos, red hat, fedora, knoppix
[03:47] <DarthLappy> I should be asleep, anyway...
[03:47] <erchache> yeah
[03:47] <nzhomie> i have 40gb to download between midnight and midday. hmm what apps do i need
[03:47] <nzhomie> ????
[03:47] <ThePub> rizhun: it's where custom themes get installed when you drag them to the themes window
[03:47] <nzhomie> Darth lappy : ME 2
[03:47] <erchache> aberry: quit splash of grub boot line
[03:47] <ThePub> rizhun: you won't have one if you haven't installed any themes before (by default)
[03:48] <biotrox> nzhomie beside amsn.. can't you tell other application for yahoo that support webcam enable..?
[03:48] <_CoutinhoBR> chanserv list #*fr*
[03:48] <aberry> well I know about the optimized kernels and all that, it's just that when I stick the cd in and let it boot up in to live cd mode, whether it's on safe graphics or not, it will get most of the way there, then the screen will go funny looking, a dodgy green line cuts across the screen and it doesnt go any further than that
[03:48] <HymnToLife> biotrox, I know Kopete does but it's more a KDE app
[03:48] <HymnToLife> will work just fine in GNOME though
[03:48] <wildchild> hello there is in edgy any package similar to aida32 (I wanna se what hardware I have on conputer...)
[03:48] <aberry> I know it's still responding, however, because when I go to turn it off it will still send all the halt commands and turn of the pc properly
[03:48] <biotrox> mmmm
[03:48] <HymnToLife> but will require a bunch of extra libs
[03:48] <erchache> aberry: all my video problems was solved deleting splash from grub boot line
[03:49] <ThePub> biotrox: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#vv
[03:49] <aberry> erchache how do you do that?
[03:49] <erchache> on boot time
[03:49] <ThePub> biotrox: you'll need to look for an alternative for the msn protocol if you must have video :(
[03:49] <erchache> push e and edit line
[03:49] <nzhomie> yahoo or msn ?
[03:49] <erchache> do you have a pci-e graphic card or agp?
[03:49] <biotrox> need yahoo more than msn
[03:49] <biotrox> both is better
[03:50] <aberry> erchache: so allow it to boot on to live cd then press e? I have pci-e 16
[03:50] <erchache> if is pci-e perhaps your motherboard are unsupported yet
[03:50] <erchache> in this case get server install cd with is on command line mode
[03:50] <erchache> make your own kernel
[03:50] <aberry> erchache: really? it's about two years old and other more basic distros run on it
[03:50] <erchache> and install X system
[03:51] <erchache> i need to do that on a intel core duo with pci-e machine
[03:51] <aberry> erchache: well I have no Idea how to write my own kernel so Ill try your e idea
[03:51] <erchache> did you install propietary kernel modules?
[03:52] <erchache> for video cards
[03:52] <biotrox> so i must use gaim-w if i want to use video chat
[03:52] <biotrox> mmmm
[03:52] <aberry> erchache:  I havnt got that far yet, it wont let me boot the live cd
[03:53] <erchache> aberry: you need server install cd
[03:53] <erchache> it dont need graphics enviroment
[03:53] <aberry> erchache: you mean on the other distros? well I installed the optimised distro kernels and the proprietary graphics drivers, but it worked without them until I did
[03:53] <nzhomie> wow 902 users
[03:53] <wildchild> ..3
[03:53] <erchache> no no you can do with ubuntu for servers
[03:53] <nzhomie> biotrox : whats so bad about gaim ?
[03:54] <HymnToLife> nzhomie, it has no K in it :p
[03:54] <biotrox> nzhomie gaim is not bad, acctually it's a very good messenger
[03:54] <aberry> erchace: whats the difference between the server and the desktop version, bar the command line startup? is it a heavier OS?
[03:54] <biotrox> i like gaim better than kopete
[03:54] <biotrox> but need to make webcam works for yahoo and messenger
[03:55] <biotrox> msn i mean
[03:55] <HymnToLife> aberry, the DEsktop is what you tried, the installable Live CD. The Ser'ver just installs a very basic system and thel lets you install whatever you want
[03:55] <nzhomie> hymn to life : it has no k in it ???
[03:55] <HymnToLife> between them there is the Alternate, same as the Desktop but the installer is text-based
[03:55] <nzhomie> does it not support webcam ?
[03:55] <HymnToLife> so it's less pretty but also far less likely to fail on you, I suggest you try this :)
[03:56] <aberry> hymntolife: is there anyway of starting the desktop version without x? I'd rather not have to completely install the distro from scratch
[03:56] <erchache> aberry:
[03:56] <erchache> yeah....you have two ways
[03:56] <nzhomie> if off to bed guys
[03:56] <biotrox> nzhomie gaim doesn't support webcam :(
[03:56] <nzhomie> ouch
[03:56] <nzhomie> u sure aMSN is 22mb?
[03:56] <HymnToLife> aberry, boot in recovery mode and edit your X config file to use the vesa driver
[03:56] <erchache> 1- more easy....wait until livecd gets your video card.....very lame
[03:57] <aberry> yes but surely when I do that it will forget the changes when I reboot
[03:57] <nzhomie> GOODNIGHT !
[03:57] <erchache> 2- more funny...install server mode ubuntu....compile your own code.....install X.org
[03:57] <HymnToLife> nzhomie, amsn itself is 2.2 MiB
[03:57] <biotrox> amsn is 15MB with a lot of ++ of libs
[03:57] <HymnToLife> but it is written in Tcl so you'll need to download the Tcl interpreter to run amsn
[03:57] <aberry> if recovery mode is the same as basic graphics mode I have already tried, and it does the same thing
[03:57] <HymnToLife> which is significantly bigger
[03:57] <erchache> the cool guys gets way 2 :-D
[03:57] <biotrox> 2MB if amsn only
[03:58] <HymnToLife> aberry, nope, the recovery mode is comand line only
[03:58] <erchache> aberry if you want i can pass a list of packages needed to compile your own kernel
[03:58] <erchache> its more easy than you know
[03:58] <aberry> hymntolife: how to I start it in recovery mode from the live cd? and do I need to use a usb stick to remember boto settings?
[03:59] <aberry> erchache, really?
[03:59] <erchache> all people afraid with kernel panics...but....with little experience you can solve it
[03:59] <HymnToLife> aberry, does the Live CD in "safe graphics" work ?
[03:59] <HymnToLife> if so, it will be a bit more easy
[03:59] <aberry> hymntolife, no, it does the same as it does otherwise
[03:59] <erchache> i get kernel panic a lot! but....i get a lot of experience with this
[03:59] <HymnToLife> all right so forget the Live CD
[03:59] <littlesniper> hello I wanted to install ubuntu on two machines
[03:59] <HymnToLife> boot your Ubuntu from your HD in recovery mode
[03:59] <littlesniper> on the first one no problem
[04:00] <erchache> if you want to learn ubuntu/linux sysadmin....you MUST to learn to compile your own personalized kernel
[04:00] <aberry> I cant, it isnt installed yet :S
[04:00] <quad3datwork2> anyone messed with ZoneCD before? i'm wondering if there is a lighter solution, any suggestions are appreciated
[04:00] <HymnToLife> aberry, oh right
[04:00] <HymnToLife> get an Alternate CD then :)
[04:00] <littlesniper> on the second one I get back to the login every 10 secondes or so when trying to do the installation
[04:00] <erchache> step 1- install ubuntu edgy for servers
[04:00] <aberry> erchache, could I do that on another distro?
[04:00] <aberry> oh ok
[04:00] <erchache> step 2- configure your network card
[04:00] <littlesniper> the ubuntu installation is going crazy on this computer, any idea ?
[04:01] <erchache> step 3- modify /etc/apt/sources.list for get packages from internet
[04:01] <erchache> step 4 - upgrade your system
[04:01] <erchache> step 5 - install all packages needed for compile kernel
[04:01] <erchache> step 6 (more tedious) - make your own kernel without kernel panics
[04:01] <littlesniper> hmmmm
[04:02] <jrib> !paste | erchache
[04:02] <ubotu> erchache: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:02] <fenrig> !nvidia
[04:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:03] <qos> hey guys ... it there anyone who can help me with sound problems?
[04:03] <littlesniper> when I try to install ubuntu on one of my machines, the installation is getting mad going back to the login every 10 seconds or so. Does anyone has met this issue please ?
[04:04] <DaDiablo> I have the following problem: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Anyone know what i have to do?
[04:04] <HymnToLife> DaDiablo, use another one :)
[04:04] <aberry> erchache, that sounds simple in like six sentences but I don't think I have enough knowledge to do it :p especially since my network card is wifi so I need ndiswrapper and I have NO idea how that would work in command line :p
[04:04] <HymnToLife> I assume you get that when trying to play something in mplayer
[04:05] <DaDiablo> yes
[04:05] <erchache> ubotu: these graphic card is pci-e is a motherboard chipset problem
[04:05] <Pelo> I need someone to look up a link in the alacarte menu editor for me,  I was enabling something but I fucked up and deleted it instead,  I need the proper command
[04:05] <HymnToLife> aberry, just try an Alternate CD
[04:05] <jrib> !language | Pelo
[04:05] <ubotu> Pelo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:05] <jrib> Pelo: what command?
[04:06] <erchache> step 7 - if you gets a stable kernel for your system....take a beer for your good work :-D
[04:06] <frogzoo> Pelo: which?
[04:06] <aberry> hymntolife, you mean ther server one?
[04:06] <HymnToLife> no
[04:06] <HymnToLife> the Alternate
[04:06] <Pelo> jrib,  the comman for the OO  model thingy , it is not enabled by default
[04:06] <erchache> step 8 - install X.org and additionals packages
[04:06] <buzzy> sorry people can you say me if i have set well my grub? I would like to be able to boot windows partition. i have pasted fdisk -l and menu.lst content: http://rafb.net/paste/results/mSEqJT58.html
[04:06] <buzzy> HymnToLife,
[04:06] <HymnToLife> there are three CDs, DEsktop, Alternate and Server
[04:06] <aberry> ok, ill take a look at that
[04:06] <erchache> aberry: get server install cd
[04:06] <erchache> server is like livecd but without X system
[04:07] <garoto> que haces??
[04:07] <jrib> Pelo: I have nothing with the word "model" in the office menu (in alacarte)
[04:07] <jrib> !es | garoto
[04:07] <ubotu> garoto: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:07] <aberry> I know kde works on another distro, should I try the kubuntu live cd or do you think I would get the same problems
[04:07] <buzzy> HymnToLife,  can you help me please?
[04:08] <Pelo> jrib,  might be template,    new Open office doc from template or something
[04:08] <HymnToLife> aberry, you will get exactly the same
[04:08] <erchache> aberry: you have same problem
[04:08] <jrib> Pelo: oofromtemplate %U    is the command
[04:08] <HymnToLife> it has nothing to do with GNOME or KDE
[04:08] <erchache> you need to upgrade your kernel to get pci-e support
[04:08] <Pelo> jrib,  thanks
[04:08] <HymnToLife> !ask | buzzy
[04:08] <ubotu> buzzy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:08] <garoto> te luce el verde
[04:08] <erchache> and with this you can get video card support
[04:08] <aberry> hymntolife & erchache: ok, I can see the server but not th alternate on the site
[04:08] <HymnToLife> hmm
[04:08] <erchache> get server
[04:09] <erchache> and follow my steps
[04:09] <ValMarko> Hi there :) sudo -i gives me permanent permission to the terminal. What command should I typo to have permission to all the task of the system ?
[04:09] <aberry> erchache, if I didnt get this would it mean I might have problems running 3d apps?
[04:09] <Criss> hola leooooooooooooo
[04:09] <erchache> no...you cant use X
[04:09] <buzzy> HymnToLife,  i wrote this:
[04:09] <aberry> erchache, I meant after x is installed
[04:09] <buzzy> sorry people can you say me if i have set well my grub? I would like to be able to boot windows partition. i have pasted fdisk -l and menu.lst content: http://rafb.net/paste/results/mSEqJT58.html
[04:09] <leoely> hola
[04:09] <erchache> ahh no
[04:10] <erchache> you can get all opengl functionalities
[04:10] <Criss> nou spanish
[04:10] <erchache> dejad de dar la vara
[04:10] <erchache> usad ubuntu-es
[04:10] <HymnToLife> buzzy, yep, that will work
[04:10] <aberry> erchahe, only asking because I have had problems with it on another distro :p
[04:10] <garoto> como estan ustedes  los de fundacite
[04:10] <buzzy> ok hybrid  that says me: NTLDR is missing :S
[04:10] <erchache> this isnt important
[04:10] <aberry> erchache it sounds all good and well but I have a feeling it's a little out of my league, Im sure theres more to it than what you just said
[04:11] <HymnToLife> buzzy, did you fixboot c: in Win XP recovery console as I told you ?
[04:11] <erchache> aberry: its a normal problem...because pci-e support are very newer
[04:11] <erchache> dont get afraid for this
[04:11] <erchache> with little patiente and luck you can solve it
[04:11] <erchache> what chipset do you have intel?
[04:12] <erchache> is a intel core duo or amd machine?
[04:12] <buzzy> HymnToLife,  i have windows 2k and i tried it but it fails!! :S
[04:12] <aberry> erchache, I imagine it'd be possible but if I screw it up it would be insanely difficult to understand my mistakes
[04:12] <buzzy> what to do?
[04:12] <rapid> core duo
[04:12] <aberry> it's a via chipset, amd 3800+
[04:12] <rapid> could be amd I guess
[04:12] <stefg> buzzy: The section in /boot/grub/menu.lst is correct (only the comment is wrong). So you reinstalled windows and lost grub from the MBR... see !grub for help
[04:12] <HymnToLife> buzzy, sorry, can't help you with 2k
[04:12] <erchache> ahh dont worry
[04:13] <erchache> with make menuconfig you have a ncurses menu
[04:13] <erchache> very easy to configure
[04:13] <aberry> lol :p no offence erchache but I've never done it before, and other than eight sentences I wouldnt know how
[04:13] <erchache> a first time was ever! :-D
[04:13] <aberry> for a start how would I configure a wifi card without x?
[04:14] <HymnToLife> aberry, try the Alternate...
[04:14] <aberry> and I have already tried, and failed, to find proper drivers
[04:14] <stefg> sudo vim /etc/network interfaces
[04:14] <erchache> yeah
[04:14] <aberry> hymntolife where is it?
[04:14] <HymnToLife> same place you got your Desktop CD from most likely
[04:14] <HymnToLife> it it isn't there, try another mirror
[04:15] <aberry> it isn't anywhere obvious on the ubuntu website :S
[04:15] <aberry> ok
[04:15] <fenrig> can sombody help me
[04:15] <erchache> aberry: did you try with alternate? i dont see it before...
[04:15] <stefg> !ask
[04:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:15] <aberry> erchache, no I ididnt
[04:15] <erchache> hymmtolife: thanks for your advice ;-)
[04:15] <erchache> hymntolife
[04:16] <ValMarko> I want to install seamonkey but I dont have all the permissions to write files to a givem directory.  What command should I type to have all the permissions ?
[04:16] <erchache> The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Ubuntu. It provides for the following situations:
[04:16] <erchache>     * creating pre-configured OEM systems;
[04:16] <erchache>     * setting up automated deployments;
[04:16] <erchache>     * upgrading from older installations without network access;
[04:16] <erchache>     * LVM and/or RAID partitioning;
[04:16] <erchache>     * installing GRUB to a location other than the Master Boot Record;
[04:16] <erchache>     * installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.
[04:16] <aberry> ok I have a fair few, would you reccomend 64 bit
[04:16] <aberry> and before Im asked a silly question, I do have a 64 bit processor :p
[04:16] <LjL> !paste | erchache
[04:16] <ubotu> erchache: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:16] <erchache> vale vale :-D
[04:16] <kanzie> I have just installed Edgy on my IBM Thinkpad T60 that is equipped with ATI graphics. Which driver should I use?
[04:17] <aberry> kanzie, get proprietary from ati.com
[04:17] <erchache> aberry: http://mirror.lupaworld.com/ubuntu/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[04:17] <erchache> use that
[04:17] <aberry> erchache, cheers
[04:17] <protocol1> how do I extract a .gz file?
[04:17] <protocol1> example?
[04:17] <erchache> tar zxfv file.gfz
[04:17] <DaDiablo> I have the following problem: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Anyone know what i have to do?
[04:17] <kanzie> aberry, When I last installed Beryl on this machine (running Dapper) I was encouraged to use unofficial drivers
[04:17] <ValMarko> Is Pentium 4 a 64 bits processor?
[04:17] <HymnToLife> protocol1, tar.gz or somethingelse.gz ?
[04:18] <HymnToLife> ValMarko, no
[04:18] <erchache> valmarko: you need to see emt64 at boot to get a intel pentium 4 64 bits
[04:18] <frogzoo> ValMarko: 32
[04:18] <syock> why is it that everytime people teach the usage of tar they use all those flags?
[04:18] <protocol1> HymnToLife, somethingelse.gz
[04:18] <HymnToLife> protocol1, gunzip
[04:18] <ValMarko> tanks
[04:18] <protocol1> ok
[04:18] <frogzoo> syock: man tar
[04:18] <aberry> kanzie, it is good to support GNU but, realistically, the proprietary drivers are better, if only because ati, dont let people know how their cards work properly
[04:19] <ValMarko> What processor from intel is a 64 bit
[04:19] <DaDiablo> I have the following problem: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Anyone know what i have to do?
[04:19] <kanzie> Should I install anything extra to the kernel to get support for DualCore?
[04:19] <erchache> intel core duo
[04:19] <kanzie> aberry, True true...
[04:19] <frogzoo> kanzie: beryl is only supported for the open source driver - not ati
[04:19] <aberry> kanzie, there are dual core kernels
[04:19] <erchache> kanzie: use amd64 ubuntu version
[04:19] <HymnToLife> kanzie, in Edgy, no, in DApper : linux-686-smp
[04:19] <sysrage> syock: habbit.. i always use zxpvf.. why do i use p or v? cause that's the first way i was ever tought.. no i dont need them :)
[04:19] <ValMarko> beryl is very nice. I just installed it yesterday
[04:20] <HymnToLife> erchache, and for 32 bit dual cores ?
[04:20] <erchache> ubuntu normal
[04:20] <erchache> and get smp kernel from apt
[04:20] <kanzie> HymnToLife, Im running Edgy since an hour ago, so no fiddeling around to get both cores up and running?
[04:20] <biotrox> !gyach
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gyach - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <frogzoo> ValMarko: are you running the fglrx driver ?
[04:20] <biotrox> !gayachi
[04:20] <HymnToLife> kanzie, nope
[04:20] <erchache> more /proc/cpuinfo
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gayachi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <HymnToLife> you can check it by running   cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:20] <aberry> kanzie, open uo synaptic and type in kernel
[04:20] <erchache> with this see number of cpu cores
[04:20] <HymnToLife> you'll see the two cores are recognized
[04:20] <ValMarko> I'm using the open source driver that comes with edgy
[04:21] <aberry> at least in other distros it should have a list of newer and modified kernels or kernel headers that are specific to certain types of machines
[04:21] <kanzie> frogzoo, Will I have any problems with beryl if I use the driver from ATI.com?
[04:21] <cpk1> i am trying to use debuild but it is stopping due to debian/rules? anyone able to help?
[04:21] <HymnToLife> aberry, Ubuntu used to have different kernels too but in Edgy they merged lots of them in the "generic" kernel
[04:22] <aberry> kanzie, no it just means that you supposedly aren't entitled to support, you can always switch back and ask :p
[04:22] <erchache> aberry yeah like gentoo
[04:22] <protocol1> how do I run an executable file in console?
[04:23] <aberry> hymtolife and erchache oh right, Ive been using PClinuxOS, basically mandriva, and it has a whole list which do actually work alot better than the original "generic" kernel
[04:23] <Pelo> protocol1,  just type the name of the file in
[04:23] <ValMarko> I'm not an expert but... if you have edgy you wont need  to make any replacement for the driver. The system comes already with an open source driver for ati. As I said, I just installed Beryl yesterday and everything works fine
[04:23] <datil> hi
[04:23] <erchache> ./executablefile
[04:24] <buzzy> guys i booted linux with printer switched off, now i need to print but it is not mounted ...what is the correct way to print? (a webpage from firefox)
[04:24] <HymnToLife> !hi | datil
[04:24] <ubotu> datil: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:24] <datil> is 6.10 release actually working with Core 2 Duo motherboards?
[04:24] <aberry> erchache, im gonna find another distro, it's downloading at 4kbs :S
[04:24] <erchache> use bittorrent
[04:24] <erchache> and wait
[04:24] <erchache> datil: yes with amd64 ubuntu distro
[04:25] <datil> erchache, why with the amd64?
[04:25] <HymnToLife> 32 bits will work fine too
[04:25] <erchache> because has 64 bits
[04:25] <stefg> !cups | buzzy
[04:25] <ubotu> buzzy: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:25] <truz_`24> how do you bring up the processes screen?
[04:25] <datil> i heard that standard i386 had problems with JMicron controller and probably ICH8
[04:25] <HymnToLife> datil, if you want 64 bits support, which has little to no use atm
[04:25] <datil> optical drive not being detected, etc
[04:25] <truz_`24> I thought it was ctrl+alt+p
[04:25] <stefros> hallo
[04:25] <aberry> erchache, dont worry bittorrent is fast but the UK mirrors are serving me at like 300kbs so theres no point :p
[04:25] <datil> no, not really looking for 64bits
[04:25] <erchache> ubuntu amd64 has support for opteron, amd64 and emt64
[04:25] <erchache> emt64 is intel core duo
[04:26] <datil> talking about the JMicron / ICH8 problem with 6.10, i'm not sure if it's fixed with the lattest daily build
[04:26] <HymnToLife> aberry, try another mirror
[04:26] <ValMarko> Well, I know the system is not using all the potencial of my graphics card but I prefer it working well instead of exploring unknown fields and destroy the castle I builted
[04:26] <datil> which seems being the 25th October
[04:26] <truz_`24> The system monitor, no pre-defined shortcut for it?
[04:26] <stefros> I am having trouble activating my PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI
[04:26] <aberry> hymntolife Ive found a decent enough one, thanks
[04:26] <stefros> under Ubuntu 6.06
[04:26] <xamox> I am trying to do SSH shared public keys, I have given the public key to the server, but when I triy to connect it keeps saying that the server is not on my known_host list, what do I need to do?
[04:26] <kanzie> how on earth can I find out what card is in my laptop to get the right drivers from ati.com?
[04:26] <erchache> stefros: use goolge and sear before please
[04:26] <egenesis> hola
[04:26] <stefros> also my Radio switches
[04:27] <egenesis> alguien entendido en kdevelop???
[04:27] <HymnToLife> kanzie, lspci -n
[04:27] <HymnToLife> !es | egenesis
[04:27] <ubotu> egenesis: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:27] <stefros> I have used google but some problems
[04:27] <stefros> I am new to Linux
[04:27] <egenesis> ok
[04:27] <erchache> xamox: cat your_server_key >> /userhome/.ssh/autorized_keys2
[04:27] <aberry> stefros, if you are just having trouble with the card then try installing NDISwrapper and using the windows drivers
[04:28] <aberry> ndiswrapper is for wifi, it works by "wrapping" windows drivers so they work in linux
[04:28] <stefros> is it difficult to install it ?
[04:28] <HymnToLife> not much but what card do you have ?
[04:28] <aberry> stefros not at all, on my second day of using linux I figured it out :p
[04:28] <kanzie> HymnToLife, mohaha, that just gave me a list of numbers, if I had that matrix-vision I might be able to work something out...
[04:28] <erchache> well i need to back to my real job
[04:28] <erchache> bye!
[04:28] <ValMarko> My system is configured to agp mode=1. How can I change to a higher one? should I ?
[04:28] <stefros> but there is another problems due to the wireless card
[04:28] <aberry> bye ercache, cheers for the help
[04:28] <stefros> I also have radio switches
[04:28] <ValMarko> system= ubuntu
[04:29] <erchache> you are welcome
[04:29] <aberry> stefros, radio switches?
[04:29] <HymnToLife> kanzie, my mistake, drop the -n :p
[04:29] <DaDiablo> I have the following problem: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Anyone know what i have to do?
[04:29] <stefros> buttons for activating my wlan card
[04:29] <erchache> if you get your machine run with ubuntu its the best reward! :-D
[04:29] <stefros> i am using amilo m 7400 laptop
[04:29] <erchache> DIE windows!
[04:29] <erchache> bye...
[04:29] <aberry> stefros, I don't know if theres any way around that, hopefully they're hardware driven though I doubt it
[04:30] <daviey> Anybody know how to make VLC work onroot
[04:30] <aberry> if they are software driven, bar writing your own drivers or checking the manufactures website for linux drivers, I dont think youll have much luck, but you never know ndiswrapper might sort that out too
[04:30] <aberry> I highly doubt it though
[04:30] <HymnToLife> VLC on root ?
[04:30] <shinda> Hey was wondering if someone could help me with curlftpfs
[04:30] <HymnToLife> that sounds like a bad idea to me
[04:30] <HymnToLife> !anyone | shinda
[04:30] <ubotu> shinda: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:30] <daviey> HymnToLife, paint to root
[04:30] <kanzie> HymnToLife, hmm... I think something is wrong. My graphics-card sure is not installed (lagging windows and such, can only set resolution to 1024 etc.) and lspci gave me: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7149
[04:31] <stefros> Okay, I am going to check this out
[04:31] <stefros> thx
[04:31] <HymnToLife> !ati | kanzie
[04:31] <ubotu> kanzie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:31] <aberry> no prob
[04:31] <HymnToLife> ttry these instead of the drivers from ati.com
[04:31] <psyoptik> random question....I want to upgrade my dapper box to edgy but I was wondering whether edgy is stable enough for everysay desktop use (ie. low chance of breakage)?
[04:32] <shinda> I'm trying to mount an ftp folder using curlftpfs, Problem I'm getting is when I mount a folder I have to switch into root, I've tried setting the group/user id so that my normal login can get access to the folder but I always get permission denied when I try to access the folder after exiting root and ideas?
[04:33] <aberry> kanzie try the proprietary drivers, I had the same problem using either vesa or radeon fbdev drivers and original kernel
[04:33] <aberry> you cant do anything about the kernel but get the drivers, it helped in my case, and my graphics card is just plain awkward!
[04:33] <psyoptik> is it a stupid question to ask whether the current version of edgy is stable for everyday use?
[04:34] <aberry> psyoptik, it is stable enough I think, you just have to look at it this way, even if it has got glitches it CANT be as bad as windows :p
[04:35] <aberry> but if you're worried download the older distro with the longer guaranteed support
[04:35] <datil> is it stable/safe to use daily (current) builds of 7.4 release?
[04:35] <apokryphos> !feisty
[04:35] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:36] <dreamer> how can I set THunderbird as my default mail-client?
[04:36] <psyoptik> aberry, this is very true.
[04:36] <dreamer> right now everything is opened by evolution, but I don't want that
[04:36] <aberry> hehe
[04:36] <G4BR13L> g
[04:36] <datil> apokryphos, i say it cause some of my hardware isn't supported in 6.10
[04:37] <apokryphos> datil: help in #ubuntu+1
[04:37] <biotrox> how to forge ubuntu to be a faster OS
[04:37] <aberry> anyway Id best be off for now, cheers everyone for your help
[04:37] <kavit>  this ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37006/   is causing HAL/DBUS to not load/recognise my DVD RAM drive... any ideas?
[04:39] <shinda> any got any ideas about my curlftpfs problem? Basically what I'm doing to mount the folder is swtiching into root then curlftpfs -u user="user:pass",gid=1000 ftp.url.com folder/
[04:39] <shinda> but once i exit root I can't access folder
[04:39] <besucher> Heyho Mikelo
[04:39] <dreamer> how can I remove/disable evolution? in Synaptic it says ubuntu-desktop will also be removed, I just want to disable evolution so that when I clkick on a mail:bla@bla.bla link it will open in thunderbird
[04:40] <HeathenDan> you can set thunderbird to be your default client
[04:41] <nothlit> dreamer, system -> preferences -> preferred applications
[04:41] <Samuli^> dreamer, ubuntu-desktop it just a meta-package, nothing as itself it just depends on a whole lot of stuff so that when you install package ubuntu-desktop you will get the needed packages.
[04:41] <dreamer> nothlit: sorry, I am in KDE
[04:41] <Samuli^> so no harm done removing ubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <dreamer> ok :)
[04:41] <nothlit> dreamer, so you're using kubuntu-desktop?
[04:41] <dreamer> I guess ?
[04:42] <dreamer> I installed the default dapper ubuntu install (not kubuntu(, but installed kde later
[04:43] <DFM> I need some help with grub.
[04:43] <dreamer> I will remove evolution with synaptic
[04:44] <DFM> I have reinstalled ubuntu and now my brub version is 0.97 instead of 1.5
[04:45] <DFM> when I boot it doesn't highlight anything so it's hard to know which kernel or OS you are selecting
[04:45] <ericmoritz\0> eek, my swap has stopped working
[04:45] <erUSUL> DFM: there is no grub 1.5 afaik 0.97 is default version (maybe you see loading stage 1.5 on boot and assumed it was the grub version but it is not)
[04:45] <DFM> Where do I need to look to learn how to upgrade or install a newer version of grub?
[04:45] <DFM> true
[04:46] <DFM> why is it so different than before?
[04:46] <erUSUL> !grub | DFM
[04:46] <ubotu> DFM: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:46] <shinda> anyone got any ideas on how to make the folders mounted with curlftpfs accessible to users other then just root?
[04:46] <DFM> thanks
[04:46] <richiefrich> shinda: chown
[04:46] <richiefrich> shinda: chmod
[04:46] <nothlit> shinda, chown the folder before you mount it
[04:47] <nothlit> shinda, otherwise, you can also use uid,gid
[04:47] <VSpike> ericmoritz\0: mine did the same
[04:47] <shinda> I've tried using uid,gid but still get the problems
[04:47] <ericmoritz\0> VSpike, did it just stop mounting it?
[04:48] <VSpike> ericmoritz\0: pretty much. I had a few different problems.
[04:48] <richiefrich> shinda: how is it being mounted?
[04:48] <shinda> curlftpfs -u user="user:pass",gid=1000 ftp.url.com folder/ is what I used to mount it
[04:48] <shinda> but I did tat as root
[04:48] <nothlit> DFM, you can change the colors in grub, see the grub manual
[04:48] <richiefrich> shinda: after it is mounted show me a  -->  mount | grep  folder
[04:48] <ericmoritz\0> I was able to recreate the swap partition and get it mounting again but it doesn't seem to use it much
[04:49] <VSpike> ericmoritz\0: mine never gets used.  I didn't have one for ages and I didn't notice any difference.
[04:49] <nothlit> not mount -t curlftp -o user=?,uid=1000,gid=1000?
[04:50] <richiefrich> nothlit: y our way will work .. idk what he did
[04:50] <shinda> richiefrich -> curlftpfs on /home/shinda/ftpfolder type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[04:51] <richiefrich> shinda: there is no  users in the ()
[04:51] <noobixor> hi, how can i scale down cpu frequency in my laptop?
[04:51] <shinda> let me try that again
[04:51] <richiefrich> shinda: add users
[04:51] <nothlit> !applets | noobixor
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <LjL> !gdesklets | perhaps
[04:52] <ubotu> perhaps: gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[04:52] <nothlit> noobixor, theres a cpu frequency applet, right click on the menu/launch bar and choose add applet, then add the cpu frequency applet
[04:52] <nothlit> LjL, gdesklets seem resource intensive
[04:52] <shinda> richiefrich - i tried using the -o uid=1000 option but I'm setting getting no userid, how can I add a user after I mounted the folder using curl?
[04:52] <LjL> nothlit: i was just guessing, it was the only factoid containing the word "applet", i thought it was what you were thinking about
[04:53] <richiefrich> LjL  thats an app -->   cpufreqd
[04:53] <nothlit> LjL, oh I meant gnome-panel applets
[04:53] <noobixor> nothlit, can i scale smaller than this -> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[04:53] <noobixor> 1667000 1333000 1000000
[04:53] <richiefrich> shinda: add in your cmd  -o users
[04:53] <LjL> !applets is <reply> To add useful applets to your panel, right click on the panel and choose "Add applet"
[04:53] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[04:53] <dreamer> hmm, in KDE, how can I set prefered aplications? I still can't get thunderbird to open a new mail-window when clicking on an emailadress
[04:53] <nothlit> I doubt it
[04:53] <nothlit> dreamer, launch kcontrol, it should be in there somewhere
[04:54] <nothlit> dreamer, otherwise you may be able to set it within your browser
[04:54] <ThePub> now that java is entirely gpl'd, has there been a word from ubuntu about inclusion of it into the main package database?
[04:54] <richiefrich> shinda: mount -t fuse /dev/??? -o users   /mnt/too
[04:54] <joseba> hola
[04:54] <VSpike> well i'll be damned
[04:55] <nothlit> lol the filesystem isn't fuse, it should be something else
[04:55] <VSpike> I made something work
[04:55] <joseba> tengo un problema con el amule
[04:55] <nothlit> !es
[04:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:55] <richiefrich> nothlit: i know but thats whta it gets mounted as
[04:55] <nothlit> what a selfish naming scheme for a fuse filesystem
[04:55] <edan> is it possible to read files that are on my windows partision??
[04:55] <nothlit> !ntfs
[04:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:55] <richiefrich> !fuse
[04:55] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:56] <nothlit> edan, do you also want to write to them?
[04:56] <emilia> hey im trying to dameware into my ubuntu pc, but i get an error ; logon failure. System error : 1311, There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon request.
[04:56] <nothlit> dameware?
[04:56] <stoorty> !ntfs-3g
[04:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:56] <edan> nothlit: i dont know
[04:56] <edan> nothlit: dose it matter?
[04:56] <nothlit> !ntfs-3g | edan
[04:57] <ubotu> edan: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:57] <shinda> ritchiefrich -> "???" is that the fuse folder?
[04:57] <evan_> is there a definitive guide to getting streaming media in firefox to work - all i see is a black box and "no video" - and ive been through an endless amount of guides to try and sort it, trying a few different media players and plugins to do it as well :/
[04:57] <nothlit> edan, well if you want to write to them you'll need to use ntfs-3g
[04:57] <edd_> ne1 know how to increase framerate on a game?? the game is liveforspeed, i think its too heavy for wine, ive taken off frame limit and its still at 2 - 5 FPS...
[04:57] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! In dapper I used a k7 kernel, but upgrading to edgy changed it to generic. Anyone could tell me why? coulnd't I use k7 kernel anymore?
[04:57] <nothlit> evan_, uninstall totem-mozilla add mozilla-mplayer
[04:57] <edan> nothlit: thnx
[04:57] <richiefrich> ompaul: how are you ?
[04:57] <LjL> !generic | paolob-parroquia
[04:57] <ubotu> paolob-parroquia: Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[04:57] <jrib> evan_: mozilla-mplayer with w32codecs plays everything for me
[04:58] <paolob-parroquia> !
[04:58] <DaDiablo> I have the following problem: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Anyone know what i have to do?
[04:59] <nothlit> !deprecated is when something is replaced by something more useful.
[04:59] <Linuturk> how do I set irssi to use a proxy?
[04:59] <evan_> ive got mozilla-mplayer and w32codecs installed
[05:00] <shinda> ritchiefrich: I get an error when I try that command, not sure what I should enter as the ??? I tried the fuse folder
[05:00] <nothlit> evan_, restart firefox
[05:00] <nothlit> evan_, if it doesn't work, you may need to set the -vo for mplayer
[05:01] <nothlit> evan_, otherwise, you can uninstall mozilla-mplayer and install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[05:01] <ompaul> richiefrich, I will claim, I am alive
[05:02] <Everflex> What is the path to where Ubuntu stores icon themes?
[05:02] <evan_> i think it might have all got a bit messed up from where ive tried different guides, because i had both mozilla-mplayer and mozilla-plugin-vlc already installed
[05:03] <paolob-parroquia> LjL, thank you
[05:03] <Toma-> /usr/share/pixmaps or icons
[05:03] <sedrake> what package is needed to play mp3s in banshee?
[05:03] <edd_> ne1 know how to increase framerate on a game?? the game is liveforspeed, i think its too heavy for wine, ive taken off frame limit and its still at 2 - 5 FPS...
[05:04] <jrib> evan_: try to prefix your messages with my name or I may not notice them.  Pastebin what this command returns 'apt-cache policy mozilla-mplayer'  please
[05:04] <richiefrich> ompaul: thats all , doesnt sound to good :\
[05:04] <jrib> !paste | evan_
[05:04] <ubotu> evan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:05] <shinda> richiefrich: mount -t fuse /dev/fuse -o users   /home/shinda/ftpfolder
[05:05] <shinda> is what I tried but got an error.
[05:06] <emilia> does anyone know a way i can remotely log into my ubuntu pc from windows, with a new session?
[05:06] <emilia> right now im using vnc, but it doesnt help if someone is using it, or if its not logged in
[05:06] <richiefrich> shinda: fuse isnt the type i justr did that
[05:06] <richiefrich> shinda: use whatever -t you were
[05:06] <evan_> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37009/
[05:06] <utab> I have some pdf files that O would like to read but these files depend on some .PDX files so I may open my document but can not reach the pages that are linked to other documents, Did anyone use these .pdx files
[05:07] <shinda> ritchiefrich: sorry, i'm brand new to unix, so not sure what you mean
[05:07] <ismail> hi guys
[05:07] <jrib> evan_: ok, pastebin what you get when you type 'about:plugins' in the address bar of your browser.  Also pastebin the result of this command 'ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/'
[05:08] <ThunderM> Small quuestion : is it me or the plf repository for edgy is down ?
[05:08] <ismail> where can i get the gnome blutooth remote manager
[05:08] <richiefrich> shinda: drop the -t all together
[05:08] <buzzy> how do i mount a floppy in fat mode?
[05:08] <zyth> buzzy, mount -t fat /dev/fd0 /mountpoint
[05:08] <richiefrich> shinda: ssee if it auto detects it
[05:09] <shinda> ritchiefrich: I'm trying sudo mount fuse /dev/fuse  -o users /home/shinda/ftpfolder
[05:09] <richiefrich> shinda: i dont htink you can mount fuse like that
[05:09] <buzzy> zylche,  are you sure it will be read from windows?
[05:09] <leandro> hola a todos
[05:10] <zyth> buzzy, huh? read from windows?
[05:10] <leandro> saludos hijos de putas
[05:10] <richiefrich> shinda: fusermount
[05:10] <richiefrich> shinda: man fusermount
[05:10] <jrib> !es | leandro
[05:10] <ubotu> leandro: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:10] <jrib> leandro: watch your language please.
[05:10] <zyth> buzzy, if the disk is already FAT formatted, writing to it from linux won't change that.
[05:10] <nothlit> !mp3 | edd
[05:10] <ubotu> edd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:11] <richiefrich> shinda:  there is no man page for it my bad
[05:11] <leandro> queria charlar con ustedes
[05:11] <evan_> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37010/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37011/
[05:11] <littlesniper> strange issue: when trying to install ubuntu, after entering gnome, every 10sec or so im back to the login screen :-O. Is that "normal" ?
[05:11] <Linuturk> linuxsys, hi andrew
[05:11] <leandro> pero no puedo
[05:11] <shinda> ritchiefrich: actually I got a page for it what exactly am I looking for in this?
[05:12] <richiefrich> shinda: whats the url?
[05:12] <Danb99> Hey, I've installed the Aegis Anti-virus scanner through the "add applications" function. For some reason, its shortcut won't appear under "accessability" but I can run it through the terminal. I'm setting this PC up for someone new to PC's so I ideally need the shortcut, where can I find it?
[05:12] <jrib> evan_: ok uninstall the vlc plugin
[05:12] <nothlit> littlesniper, after installing ubuntu? or while trying to install ubuntu?
[05:12] <zyth> Danb99, have you logged out of gnome and back in? Sometimes you have to do so for the menus to refresh (there may be another way as well, I'm unsure)
[05:13] <Danb99> Thank you, i will try that
[05:13] <zyth> np
[05:13] <littlesniper> nothlit: when trying to install it
[05:13] <nothlit> zyth, the other way is killall gnome-panel
[05:13] <zyth> ahh
[05:13] <zyth> there
[05:13] <ismail> where can i get the gnome blutooth control remoto
[05:13] <zyth> thanks nothlit
[05:13] <ThunderM> Does anyone have an ideea about the plf repository for edgy ? When i've done a apt-get update today i woke up it couldn't reach them...
[05:13] <Danb99> I have actually reset but it still didn't appear. Any other ideas?
[05:13] <littlesniper> nothlit: boot fine, arrive to gnome, then back to login after a few secs. Worked fine on a newer comp though
[05:13] <evan_> jrib, ok
[05:14] <zyth> Danb99, manually add it.  System -> Preferences -> Menu Layout
[05:14] <Danb99> Thanks mate I will try that
[05:14] <JackW90> hi all
[05:14] <littlesniper> nothlit: when trying to click the install icon (when i have time :) ) the screen flashes and then... back to login
[05:14] <jrib> evan_: now close and start firefox again and test your player here: http://www.linspire.com/products_linspire_whatis.php?tab=compatibility
[05:14] <shinda> ritchiefrich: doesn't show a url just authors email @debian, but there is this url which seems to have info on it http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FAQ
[05:15] <nothlit> littlesniper, well I'm not exactly sure what you can do to fix that, but you can always use the alternate disc to install if the live cd doesn't work
[05:15] <richiefrich> shinda: thats what im reading now
[05:15] <nothlit> !alternate | littlesniper
[05:15] <littlesniper> nothlit: Can i switch to some text mode ?
[05:15] <ubotu> littlesniper: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:15] <JackW90> danb99 hi dude
[05:15] <Linuturk> how do you list out the installed packages using aptitude?
[05:15] <nothlit> Linuturk, aptitude search ~i
[05:15] <Linuturk> via the terminal, not the aptitude men
[05:16] <jrib> Linuturk: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/
[05:16] <jrib> Linuturk: the "search patterns" page
[05:16] <littlesniper> nothlit: the graphical installation is not ready isnt it  ? :P
[05:16] <nothlit> jrib, how do you get a man url so fast?
[05:16] <richiefrich> shinda: what error do you get on trying to mount it9$
[05:16] <Linuturk> thanks
[05:16] <richiefrich> it?
[05:16] <Danb99> zyth there isn't a "menu layout" but there is a "menu & toolbars" but there isn't anything in there which will add the shortcut. any other ideas?
[05:16] <Danb99> hey jackw90
[05:16] <jrib> nothlit: bookmark
[05:16] <nothlit> littlesniper, theres probably a solution, and i'm thinking about it, but the alternate cd is a great tool, gives you more options as well
[05:17] <nothlit> Danb99, just rightclick on the applications bar and click edit menu
[05:17] <nothlit> Danb99, after that you can add it manually inside a category
[05:17] <JackW90> danb99 l8r m8!
[05:17] <Danb99> I've tried that and the virus scanner is there with a tick-box next to it but it still won't appear
[05:18] <nothlit> Danb99, tick the tick box ?
[05:18] <ismail> where can i get the gnome blutooth control remoto
[05:18] <littlesniper> nothlit: i will try the othe cd, I want an universal one for several machines. The desktop CD worked on the more ressent machine only
[05:18] <nothlit> !bluetooth
[05:18] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:18] <Danb99> cya jackw90!
[05:18] <Danb99> I've done that nothlit
[05:18] <nothlit> littlesniper, the livecd doesn't work if you don't have enough memory
[05:18] <shinda> ritchiefrich: mount: can't find it9 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:19] <Danb99> the weird thing is I've installed another program and that appears fine
[05:19] <littlesniper> nothlit: :D its not that old, it has >700Mram I suppose its enough
[05:19] <nothlit> Danb99, not all the programs are packaged according to freedesktop.org specifications, and thats where your problems lie
[05:19] <littlesniper> nothlit: its just there is a vodoo3 inside which may be a problem, i dont know
[05:19] <shinda> ritchiefrich: I appreciate the help, but I got to run, got an exam in 10 mins, so sorry to bolt like this
[05:20] <Danb99> How can I resolve that/
[05:20] <jfrench_> Hey, I was hoping some one could link me to a site, the show how to easily upgrade beryl from 1.0.2 to 1.0.3
[05:20] <nothlit> Danb99, you can't unless you're a package manager
[05:20] <Danb99> haha
[05:20] <Danb99> ok thank you for your help
[05:20] <richiefrich> shinda: ok get me when you get back
[05:20] <jrib> jfrench_: those versions don't exist, but try #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl
[05:21] <jfrench_> LoL what do you mean those versions don't exist
[05:21] <jrib> jfrench_: /join #ubuntu-xgl  I'm there as well
[05:21] <dreamer> nothlit: I can't find it in kcontrol, do you know how teo set it in firefox ?
[05:22] <jfrench_> I mean 0.1.2* lol my bad
[05:22] <evan_> jrib, thanks dood thats sorted it. guess it just got mixed up with all the diff things i tried
[05:22] <jrib> evan_: yeah
[05:22] <nothlit> dreamer, lemme open up firefox and check
[05:22] <goochy> what's beryl?
[05:22] <dreamer> :)
[05:22] <somerville32> !beryl | goochy
[05:22] <ubotu> goochy: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:23] <nothlit> dreamer, have you check the gconf url handlers?
[05:23] <dreamer> no, what are those ?
[05:23] <jfrench_> Thanks ppl
[05:23] <nothlit> dreamer, run gconf-editor
[05:23] <nothlit> dreamer, as your regular user
[05:23] <dreamer> ok
[05:24] <dreamer> nothlit: hmm, kde isn't in there. All I see is gnome everywhere
[05:25] <nothlit> dreamer, oh doh keep forgetting you aren't running ubuntu
[05:25] <nothlit> !kubuntu
[05:25] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:25] <dreamer> :P
[05:25] <dreamer> !kde
[05:25] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:25] <dreamer> hmm, I'll check #kubuntu then I guess ..
[05:25] <nothlit> dreamer, no #kubuntu, i'm looking but i don't have kde installed and they'll prolly be able to help you faster
[05:25] <ismail> guys
[05:25] <dreamer> yeah I'll see there :)
[05:26] <ismail> help plz
[05:26] <ismail> :(
[05:27] <rapid> i've got kde install what the problem
[05:27] <nothlit> rapid, he wants to set thunderbird as the default mail:// handler in firefox
[05:28] <dreamer> rapid: I want to set thunderbird as the default mail-client, where can I do that ?
[05:28] <dreamer> :)
[05:28] <ismail> where can i get the gnome blutooth control remoto
[05:28] <PMantis> Edgy doesn't have an inittab, of course. Where do I disable the Ctrl-Alt-Del event?
[05:29] <gestapo> Hi, can anybody help me with sendmail perhaps?
[05:29] <rapid> dreamer: what program is it launching?
[05:29] <dreamer> rapid: it was launching evolution, I removed that now, but now it doesn't open anything
[05:29] <kane77> how is uptime calculated? is it just time from last restart (disregarding hibernation time) or does it count only time when system was running?
[05:30] <gestapo> Hi, can anybody help me with sendmail perhaps?
[05:30] <nothlit> dreamer, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client
[05:30] <nothlit> dreamer, google is your friend :)
[05:30] <dreamer> :)
[05:31] <dreamer> thank you nothlit :)
[05:32] <nothlit> dreamer, lol see it is also in kde configs :P
[05:32] <gestapo> hallo...anybody???
[05:32] <dreamer> nothlit: where ?
[05:33] <dreamer> "K (start) -> System -> Configuration Editor" << I don't have that nothlit
[05:33] <ismail> help plz
[05:33] <gestapo> please
[05:33] <nothlit> dreamer, it should be somewhere inside kcontrol
[05:33] <kane77> how is it with installing packages in live version? is it possible?
[05:34] <JackW90> i have a problem every time i try to insatll the anit-virus this message comes up
[05:34] <JackW90> Installing this application would mean that something else needs to be removed. Please use the "Advanced" mode to install 'aegis-virus-scanner'. can any 1 help?
[05:34] <kanzie> Im about to install beryl on my Edgy laptop, sohuld I go with XGL or AiGLX (what is the difference)
[05:34] <saturn_> Could anybody help me with programming Atmel microchips using C++?
[05:35] <nothlit> !aiglx
[05:35] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[05:35] <rapid> saturn_, #c or #C++
[05:35] <nothlit> !xgl
[05:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:35] <JackW90> i have a problem every time i try to insatll the anit-virus this message comes up  Installing this application would mean that something else needs to be removed. Please use the "Advanced" mode to install 'aegis-virus-scanner'. can any 1 help?
[05:35] <saturn_> rapid, #c
[05:36] <nomis_> is it possible with the new nvidia driver to run 3d games on beryl?
[05:36] <kane77> JackW90, try typing in console "sudo apt-get install aegis-virus-scanner"
[05:36] <kane77> JackW90, and tell me what it says
[05:36] <nothlit> !beryl > nomis_
[05:36] <eichi> hi, how to search package with apt-get?
[05:36] <kane77> eichi, apt-cache search keywords
[05:36] <nothlit> eichi, apt-cache search / apt-cache --names-only search
[05:37] <kane77> eichi, replace keywords with what you want to fing
[05:37] <kane77> *find
[05:37] <nothlit> but aptitude results are nicer
[05:38] <kane77> plus aptitude uninstalls all unwanted dependencies... (when you remove  program)
[05:38] <JackW90> jack@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install aegis-virus-scanner
[05:38] <JackW90> Password:
[05:38] <JackW90> Reading package lists... Done
[05:38] <JackW90> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:38] <JackW90> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[05:38] <JackW90> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[05:38] <JackW90> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[05:38] <JackW90> or been moved out of Incoming.
[05:38] <JackW90> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[05:38] <JackW90> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[05:38] <JackW90> that package should be filed.
[05:38] <JackW90> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[05:38] <JackW90> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:38] <JackW90>   aegis-virus-scanner: Depends: libarchive-zip-perl but it is not installable
[05:38] <JackW90>                        Depends: libarchive-tar-perl but it is not going to be installed
[05:38] <nothlit> !pastebin | JackW90
[05:38] <ubotu> JackW90: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:38] <JackW90> E: Broken packages
[05:38] <JackW90> jack@ubuntu:~$ #
[05:38] <kane77> JackW90, use pastebin please...
[05:39] <linuxsys> quit
[05:39] <JackW90> no
[05:39] <kane77> JackW90, try "sudo apt-get install libarchive-tar-perl" first...
[05:40] <pike_> JackW90: rule for irc channels is usually three lines of pasted text
[05:40] <JackW90> it can istall and it sed that there r broken pages
[05:41] <kane77> JackW90, use "sudo apt-get install -f" to fix
[05:41] <gestapo> Hi, can anybody help me with sendmail perhaps?
[05:42] <JackW90> udo apt-get install - that what it sed
[05:42] <pike_> gestapo: reason youre not going with postfix?
[05:43] <JackW90> Reading package lists... Done
[05:43] <JackW90> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:43] <JackW90> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:43] <Linuturk> how do I add a Ubuntu cd to /etc/apt/sources.list on a server install?
[05:44] <somerville32> !repositories | Linuturk
[05:44] <ubotu> Linuturk: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:44] <JackW90> Reading package lists... Done
[05:44] <JackW90> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:44] <JackW90> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:45] <nothlit> !pastebin
[05:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:45] <kane77> JackW90, now try installing the libarchive-tar-perl again
[05:47] <ubuntu_> hi
[05:47] <ubuntu_> hello
[05:48] <goose> hi
[05:48] <ubuntu_> how long has everyone had ubuntu
[05:48] <goose> my ubuntu-notifier is a bit messed up after the update to edgy.  any ideas on diagnosing what's wrong and how to fix it?
[05:48] <mathiouzz> hi all
[05:48] <gestapo> Hi, can anybody help me with sendmail perhaps? please...
[05:49] <goose> show-updates does nothing
[05:49] <mathiouzz> does someone have problems with dvd burning ? (growisofs : input /outpout error)
[05:49] <mztriz> How do I burn a bootable  iso dvd image in ubuntu
[05:50] <frogzoo> mztriz: k3b does it easily
[05:50] <nothlit> mztriz, you just burn the iso image (but not as date)
[05:50] <gestapo> help plz
[05:50] <mztriz> okay, and it will be bootable?
[05:50] <mztriz> thanks frogzoo and nothlit
[05:50] <igor_> hi all
[05:51] <igor_> hi.. there is any way to use install to copy a direcoty structrue to a destionation? I have tried:  install -vdD fakeroot/boot fakeroot/etc fakeroot/usr /tmp/ but didn't copy anything.
[05:51] <somerville32> mztriz: IT'll be bootable IF you burn it as an ISO.
[05:51] <AlexC_> Hey,
[05:51] <gestapo> s.o.s.
[05:51] <AlexC_> How can I mount a FAT32 hard drive? I added it to my fstab but it doesn't show up when I type "mount" in terminal
[05:51] <AlexC_> the hard drive is /dev/sdb1
[05:52] <AlexC_> and I want it mounted to /media/windows
[05:52] <PuRu> back
[05:53] <igor_> AlexC_: mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/windows
[05:53] <DaDiablo> I have the following problem: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Anyone know what i have to do?
[05:53] <igor_> you shoiuld create /media/windows first
[05:53] <igor_> mkdir /media/windows if it didn't exist.
[05:53] <AlexC_> igor_: yeah I have created it
[05:53] <igor_> then mount should help you
[05:53] <igor_> if is on fstab you can mount with mount /media/windows only
[05:53] <igor_> cd /media/windows will show you the contents
[05:54] <igor_> ALT+F2 and type /media/windows will help too
[05:54] <igor_> :-)
[05:54] <AlexC_> igor_: I have it in my fstab - but when I looked in /media/windows there was _no files_ .... yet I know for a fact there are
[05:54] <sedrake> I-managed-to-screw-up-my-spacebar-key,-is-there-anyway-to-reset-the-keyboard-shortcuts?
[05:54] <wy2000> hello
[05:55] <igor_> AlexC_: cd .. ; cd -\
[05:55] <AlexC_> igor_: I get this: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[05:55] <igor_> cd .. ; cd -
[05:55] <igor_> ohh.
[05:55] <igor_> ok
[05:55] <igor_> show me your fstab entry
[05:55] <wy2000> are there oracle dba here??
[05:55] <igor_> wy2000: we are on oracle support?
[05:55] <AlexC_> igor_: /dev/sdb1 /media/windows vfat umask=0000 0 0
[05:55] <wy2000> igor
[05:55] <wy2000> how??
[05:55] <psusi> sedrake: ctrl-alt-del? ;)
[05:55] <mztriz> I have one more question for anyone, how would I transfer a file over my network (both computers are running ubuntu) I have ssh set up if that means anything.
[05:56] <nothlit> sedrake, easiest way is to remove gconf settings i think
[05:56] <somerville32> mztriz: You could use sftp
[05:56] <nothlit> !ftps
[05:56] <psusi> AlexC_: sudo mount /media/windows
[05:56] <wy2000> i have been trying 2 install oracle on 6.06
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <ismail> help plz
[05:56] <igor_> AlexC_: everything seems fine..
[05:56] <mztriz> Okay, I'll try that, thanks somerville32
[05:56] <nothlit> somerville32, sftp = simple file transfer protocol... != ftps
[05:56] <AlexC_> igor_: weird, I get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, again
[05:56] <igor_> wy2000: why should you need a oracle dba to install oracle?
[05:56] <nothlit> mztriz, install gftp and do it
[05:57] <somerville32> nothlit, No it stands for secure file transfer protocol, thanks ;] 
[05:57] <igor_> AlexC_: file -s /dev/sdb1
[05:57] <psusi> since when is there a simple file transfer protocol?  there is a trivial file transfer protocol, but I have never heard of simple
[05:57] <ismail> where can i get the gnome blutooth control remoto
[05:57] <AlexC_> igor_: /dev/sdb1: writable, no read permission  - what the hell?
[05:57] <igor_> ?
[05:57] <igor_> ls -l /dev/sdb1
[05:57] <wy2000> igor: what i meant was if anybodi hear has oracle dba experience with ubuntu
[05:57] <mztriz> nothlit, okay gftp it is :D
[05:57] <mztriz> thanks.
[05:57] <AlexC_> igor_: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 2006-12-14 16:46 /dev/sdb1
[05:57] <jareth_> sfpt - secure file transfer protocol
[05:58] <igor_> I have installed oracle on linux but im not an oracle dba
[05:58] <igor_> sudo file -s /dev/sdb1
[05:58] <nothlit> somerville32, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_File_Transfer_Protocol
[05:58] <AlexC_> igor /dev/sdb1: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xb, starthead 1, startsector 63, 160055532 sectors, extended partition table (last)\011
[05:58] <nothlit> somerville32, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ftps
[05:58] <somerville32> nothlit: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+sftp&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[05:58] <igor_> dont seems like a vfat partition
[05:59] <cld2> anyone know if the xorg.conf device option "rotate" works with the binary ati drivers?
[05:59] <igor_>  sudo file -s /dev/hda2
[05:59] <igor_> /dev/hda2: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x58, OEM-ID "MSDOS5.0", sectors/cluster 16, reserved sectors 36, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 996030, sectors 19535040 (volumes > 32 MB) , FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 9530, reserved3 0x1800000, reserved 0x1, serial number 0x20b772cf, unlabeled
[05:59] <mztriz> nothlit, what port should I use 22 or 21?
[05:59] <jareth_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol
[05:59] <igor_> AlexC_: mount | grep windows shows something?
[06:00] <psusi> igor_: of course it is a vfat partition... ID=0xb
[06:00] <nothlit> mztriz, 22 is the default ssh server port
[06:00] <AlexC_> igor_: nothing,
[06:00] <mztriz> nothlit, okay, thanks again.
[06:00] <igor_> psusi: sure.. ;-) it was a mistake :-) thank you
[06:00] <igor_> try mount like this: mount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /media/windows
[06:01] <igor_> sdb1
[06:01] <igor_> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/windows
[06:01] <nothlit> somerville32, its sometimes called sftp as an acronym but its ftps://
[06:01] <nothlit> somerville32, like https
[06:02] <specialdave> does skype run on ubuntu?
[06:02] <AlexC_> igor_: !! Fixed! it was sdb5 not 1
[06:02] <nothlit> igor_, did he make the mount point?
[06:02] <nothlit> !plf | Specialdave
[06:02] <ubotu> Specialdave: PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[06:02] <igor_> nothlit: he said yes :-)
[06:02] <AlexC_> igor_: thank you _so_ much for your time and help, this has been driving me mad for a long time.
[06:02] <siezer> !seen moly
[06:02] <ubotu> I haven't seen moly recently
[06:02] <nothlit> specialdave, you'll need to get skype from the penguin liberation front
[06:02] <psusi> last time I checked, there were two different packages claiming to be "secure ftp", one is just an scp hacked up to look kind of like ftp, and the other is actually ftp, over ssl
 igor_: /dev/sdb1 /media/windows vfat umask=0000 0 0
[06:02] <igor_> you pasted sdb1
[06:02] <specialdave> ok ty
[06:03] <AlexC_> igor_: yeah, that's what I thought it was. but I just looked at my device manage and saw sdb1 and sdb5 .. so I thought I'd try 5 and see if that worked
[06:03] <igor_> psusi: did you know if /usr/bin/install can install direcoties and all structure inside it?
[06:04] <igor_> AlexC_: ok. .best luck ... ;-) be welcome
[06:04] <igor_> FORD!
[06:04] <igor_> :-)
[06:04] <AlexC_> =) thanks
[06:04] <sergevn> Hi can someone help me with NTFS-FUSE?
[06:04] <AlexC_> bye
[06:04] <DaDiablo> I have the following problem: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Anyone know what i have to do?
[06:04] <psusi> igor_: not sure.... man install? :)
[06:04] <psusi> igor_: but I usually see scripts mkdir -p anyhow to make sure that the directory exists
[06:05] <nothlit> psusi, sftp (1)             - secure file transfer program? this what you referring to?
[06:05] <Eddie> i have a wireless card and the driver it loads i dont want so i have to rmmod the driver and modprobe the correct one everytime. Is there a way to set the driver to the one i wish so i dont have to do this everytime i reboot
[06:05] <trilly> hey, anyone here knows how i can invert one window in particular with Xorg ?
[06:05] <trilly> .. and not by using beryl or compiz
[06:06] <psusi> nothlit: like I said, last time I looked there were two different programs with that name... one using ssl, one using ssh
[06:06] <cld2> trilly: do you mean rotate?
[06:06] <zyth> haha that's awesome, I put in my World of Warcraft DVD, clicked the EXE, and the installer is running
[06:07] <trilly> cld2: no, i mean black is white, red is green, etc.
[06:07] <h0ndaracer2> hi
[06:07] <nightfreak> anyone knows a graphical merge tool for ubuntu
[06:07] <cld2> trilly: ok, no I dont. sorry.
[06:07] <nothlit> nightfreak, merging what?
[06:07] <sergevn> Cant someone help, i am kind of a rookie with this stuff.
[06:07] <nightfreak> nothlit: textfiles
[06:07] <psusi> nightfreak: merge tool as in merging patches to source code/text files?
[06:08] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> i dont think that it dows
[06:08] <cloom> angochat.net
[06:08] <psusi> nightfreak: emacs has a handy dandy diff/patch/merge mode
[06:09] <nightfreak> psusi: i'll check that, any other suggestions
[06:09] <makkk> hey all, i'm in a real hurry. i just installed dapper and it doesnt seem to be detecting my network connection. is there anything I can do?
[06:10] <psusi> nightfreak: nope.... I'm an emacs fan
[06:10] <age6racer> hi everyone, I have issues with my wireless card not working (quite) ndiswrapper is showing the driver and hardware though.
[06:11] <sergevn> I am getting this error when i mount /media/sda1 as user, serge@tony:/media$ mount sda1/  usermount: mount failed: Invalid argument fuse_mount failed.Unmounting: data.
[06:11] <sergevn> this is my fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs-fuse rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:12] <age6racer> I'm running Ubuntu (Hoary) with Xfce.
[06:12] <clearscreen> age6racer does it have a broadcom chipset? lol
[06:12] <psusi> age6racer: holy crap... Hoary is like 3 years old ;)
[06:12] <age6racer> dunno? how do i find that out? it is a linksys WPC54G
[06:12] <eisenpm> hello, just one short question: USB-headsets work out of the box with edgy, right? no drivers needed?
[06:12] <age6racer> Sorry Breezy
[06:12] <kkaisare> Anyone here tried out the Herd-1 release?
[06:13] <clearscreen> age6racer I believe linksys WPC54G has a broadcom chipset.. which can now run native drivers instead of using ndiswrapper
[06:14] <jengc0il> !how to mount my xternal HDD to read write
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how to mount my xternal HDD to read write - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <jengc0il> !mount external HDD
[06:14] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB
[06:14] <age6racer> that sounds good. Do I need to upgrade to edgy for that then?
[06:14] <clearscreen> well first try lspci and see what it spits back on your network controller
[06:15] <jengc0il> any1 any idea
[06:15] <age6racer> ok
[06:16] <clearscreen> linksys WPC54G (ver.1.2) is supported, just depends on what ver you're using
[06:16] <age6racer> clearscreen: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GLG8VW86.html
[06:16] <emilia> right now im using vnc, but it doesnt help if someone is using it, or if its not logged in
[06:16] <emilia> does anyone know a way i can remotely log into my ubuntu pc from windows, with a new session?
[06:17] <clearscreen> ok, that's supported by the bcm43xx package
[06:17] <zaferbatur> if i dont spell wrong you have to enble xdmcp service
[06:18] <age6racer> bcm43xx? Do i need to install that in ndiswrapper?
[06:18] <clearscreen> what kernel are you using age6racer?
[06:18] <clearscreen> nope; ndiswrapper 'emulates' windows drivers. you're gonna want to install the native drivers
[06:18] <age6racer> How do I check that?
[06:18] <clearscreen> uname -a
[06:18] <age6racer> ok thanks
[06:19] <clearscreen> you'll need 2.6.15 or newer for these drivers
[06:19] <age6racer> 2.6.12-10-386
[06:19] <age6racer> so upgrade time then...
[06:19] <jengc0il> clearscreen: how to mount xternl HDD read write
[06:19] <clearscreen> indeed
[06:19] <clearscreen> no idea jengc0il, sorry
[06:20] <littlesniper> hey, i have another question guys: in the installation with the alternate CD I cant choose the packets right ?
[06:20] <jengc0il> clearscreen: but it auto detact
[06:20] <age6racer> thats fine, but i could do with soe help with a that in Xfce (I'm new to it and have only ever done upgrades with a gui in gnome)
[06:20] <jengc0il> clearscreen: but it readly only
[06:20] <nothlit> littlesniper, packages?
[06:20] <jengc0il> nothlit: hi there
[06:20] <littlesniper> ups yes
[06:20] <nothlit> littlesniper, you could install the minimal, and then install packages from the cd inside the installed system
[06:21] <clearscreen> age6racer once you have a newer kernel; apt-get install wireless-tools wpasupplicant.. then get bcm43xx-fwcutter tool (don't know if ubuntu breezy aptitude repositories have it)
[06:21] <nothlit> jengc0il, hello
[06:21] <jengc0il> nothlit: how to read write my xternal HDD/ pendrive
[06:21] <gnu> hi anybody knows how to install cs: source with cedega?
[06:21] <littlesniper> nothlit: hmmm not that cool, I guess I will have to uninstall a lot of things once they have been installed
[06:21] <nothlit> jengc0il, what filesystem is it?
[06:21] <clearscreen> ah age6racer, found the official ubuntu howto for those drivers. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Breezy#head-7a790bf9da8da9656c6f938a7382ac166c43a723
[06:22] <age6racer> thanks clearscreen
[06:22] <jengc0il> nothlit: all file in my xternal HDD
[06:22] <clearscreen> you're welcome
[06:22] <gnu> anybody knows how to install cs: source with cedega?
[06:22] <nothlit> jengc0il, as in, FAT, ext3, reiser?
[06:22] <jengc0il> nothlit: it autodetact but red only
[06:22] <littlesniper> nothlit: I was told that you could check or uncheck the package in this distribution ???? Im very surprised
[06:22] <nothlit> jengc0il, ok give me the line in mount -l
[06:22] <jengc0il> nothlit: hmm NTFS/fat32
[06:22] <jengc0il> w8
[06:22] <valme> luna
[06:23] <nothlit> littlesniper, nah its mostly to give people a default desktop, or you start with the base and build up
[06:23] <valme> hola
[06:23] <nothlit> littlesniper, otherwise you could use the net install or mini iso
[06:23] <nothlit> littlesniper, but the mini iso is very very hard to find
[06:23] <fbc> Is there a kernel fo AMD sempron 3000+ or should I just run i386?
[06:24] <fenrig> do i386
[06:24] <littlesniper> nothlit: well this sounds me like "create a script to uninstall all useless stuffs from all your computers :)"
[06:24] <fbc> fenrig:  thanks
[06:24] <magic_ninja> with java in ubuntu whats the best way to remove it
[06:24] <gnu> anybody knows how to install cs: source with cedega?
[06:24] <fenrig> i have a amd 64 3800+ and it runs smooth
[06:24] <nothlit> littlesniper, well otherwise people can customise the install cd
[06:24] <nothlit> littlesniper, like i said, you can use the mini iso, it does exactly what you want
[06:25] <fbc> fenrig: but you should be running the amd64 kernel not the i386
[06:25] <nothlit> magic_ninja, uninstall it with your package manager and remove any references you may have manually added
[06:25] <littlesniper> nothlit: will the alternative installation, ask me for a 64/32 bits kernel to install if my CPU is 64bits ?
[06:25] <nothlit> there is nothing wrong with running in 32 bit mode, 64bit linux does introduce some hassles
[06:25] <nothlit> littlesniper, no thats a different disc
[06:26] <nothlit> littlesniper, theres different discs for different cpus
[06:26] <kane77> can I install programs running only live cd?
[06:26] <littlesniper> nothlit: fine thank you
[06:26] <jengc0il> nothlit: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37021/
[06:26] <binit> are there any java development environment packages for linux
[06:26] <jengc0il> nothlit: do u got it?
[06:27] <binit> also, where are the mplayer packages?
[06:27] <littlesniper> synaptic removes the dependencies now or do we still have to use aptitude ?
[06:27] <fbc> nothlit: like what? because I've been dieing for better performance adn had dreams of switching to an amd64 machine running the ubuntu amd64 kernel.. Are you telling me it's not worth it?
[06:27] <nothlit> !ntfs-3g | jengc0il
[06:27] <ubotu> jengc0il: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:27] <nothlit> fbc, things like binary blobs, flash, some people have had problems, one person couldn't get freenx working
[06:28] <clearscreen> there's already a driver that supports ntfs write access? wow didn't know.
[06:28] <gnu> anybody knows how to install cs: source with cedega?
[06:28] <gnu> anybody knows how to install cs: source with cedega?
[06:28] <nothlit> clearscreen, theres been captiventfs for a while now
[06:28] <clearscreen> gnu #cedega
[06:28] <clearscreen> nothlit but didn
[06:28] <gnu> ok
[06:28] <jengc0il> nothlit: still beta
[06:28] <jengc0il> nothlit: how to solve my problem
[06:29] <clearscreen> didn't it require specially made partitions* I can remember it being possible but requiring a workaround*
[06:29] <nothlit> jengc0il, you want write access, install ntfs-3g
[06:29] <ValMarko> please somebody help. I dont have all the permission to move a file to a directory. How do I do it?
[06:29] <Igor_V2> i knoew it's not the ritgh place to ask....but anybody knows how i find my pendrive in Debian?
[06:29] <jengc0il> c lunapark?
[06:29] <nothlit> jengc0il, its plenty safe
[06:29] <fbc> nothlit: right now picasa keeps my cpu pinned at 100%. I thought I might need to upgrade my cpu.. but I guess picasa is just a hog...
[06:29] <nothlit> clearscreen, no
[06:29] <nothlit> fbc, use fspot then?
[06:29] <sharperguy> It it for real that ctrl+alt+delete shuts your computer down?
[06:29] <nothlit> fbc, is it still searching/indexing/thumbnailing?
[06:30] <nothlit> sharperguy, not unless you're in console view
[06:30] <Igor_V2> i know it's not the ritgh place to ask....but anybody knows how i find my pendrive in Debian?
[06:30] <lovloss> i love you guys :D
[06:30] <lovloss> Hey, whats the keyboard shortcut for closing an unresponsive program?
[06:30] <QwertyM> sharperguy, and yeah, it dont shut down, it reboots
[06:30] <TheGateKeeper> ValMarko: use sudo
[06:30] <nothlit> Igor_V2, its most likely in /dev/sda, you may need to automount it and #debian
[06:30] <QwertyM> lovloss, alt+f4 ?
[06:30] <lovloss> yay thanks :D
[06:30] <Igor_V2> ok...thanks
[06:30] <nothlit> lovloss, you can run xkill
[06:30] <ValMarko> I typed: sudo -i and password
[06:30] <lovloss> So anyway how is everyone
[06:30] <jengc0il> nothlit: thanks guy
[06:31] <ValMarko> But I still cant move the file
[06:31] <AlexC_> How can I create a link from /home/alex called music to /media/windows/music ?
[06:31] <AlexC_> much like a Windows Shortcut
[06:31] <magic_ninja> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[06:31] <magic_ninja> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[06:31] <magic_ninja> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[06:31] <kevin327> type 123 if you can see this. (I'm having IRC issues.)
[06:31] <fbc> nothlit:  I think it is..
[06:31] <nothlit> AlexC_, oh, linux links are far more powerful... ln -s /media/windows/music /home/alex/music
[06:31] <lovloss> 123
[06:31] <Mastastealth> AlexC_: I think its ln -s /home/alex/music /media/windows/music
[06:31] <kevin327> thanks
[06:31] <lovloss> :)
[06:31] <Mastastealth> bah! beat to it ;)
[06:31] <lovloss> hahaha!
[06:31] <fbc> It never stops.. my fans run constantly when picasa runs
[06:32] <magic_ninja> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[06:32] <magic_ninja> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[06:32] <magic_ninja> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[06:32] <fbc> nothlit: It never stops.. my fans run constantly when picasa runs
[06:32] <nojoes> When i insert my network cable i don't get an IP until I do '/etc/init.d/networking restart'. How can I change this?
[06:32] <lovloss> Im mostly here to see if i can answer questions, since im always asking. I try so many things, lol. Beryl one day. C++ the next. Rendering. New motherboard.
[06:32] <Mastastealth> nojoes: do you have network manager installed?
[06:33] <jb0nd38372> lovloss: Hehe same here I experiment so much, its not even funny, an IT manager would look at my style of computing and probally stroke out
[06:33] <nojoes> Mastastealth: This is a fresh install. Is it standard?
[06:34] <phiwum> Hey ho.  How do I see a log of recently applied upgrades?
[06:34] <h0ndaracer2> hello everyone
[06:34] <Mastastealth> nojoes: No I don't think so...just apt-get install network-manager-gnome, great network app that should autodetect wireless or wired connections
[06:34] <lovloss> jb0nd38372: I live by the philosophy that making mistakes is better for learning than research =) Ive reinstalled ubuntu 4 times. I leave my system files on a seperate partition specifically for those mess-ups
[06:34] <nothlit> does apt-get have a log?
[06:34] <nojoes> Mastastealth: Ok, thanks alot!
[06:34] <phiwum> nothlit: I should hope so!  But maybe not.
[06:35] <lovloss> Once i just downloaded every package i could, and then all the suggested packages, and then THEIR suggested packages, until dvds failed to work o.O
[06:35] <phiwum> nothlit: Surely Ubuntu keeps a record of when an upgrade was applied?
[06:35] <magic_ninja> is there a package name for java
[06:35] <nothlit> there should be a sudo log
[06:35] <lovloss> magic_ninja: To program in?
[06:35] <ValMarko> How can I run as Administor on gnome?
[06:35] <nothlit> i would only look at the aptitude logs myself tho
[06:36] <nothlit> !sudo | ValMarko
[06:36] <ubotu> ValMarko: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:36] <jb0nd38372> lovloss: Ditto... right now i'm running beryl, with kiba dock, running world of warcraft under wine emulation , my windows friends come over and trip out when I cube the desktop and start rotating it... esp when world of warcraft is on one of the sides full screen
[06:36] <lovloss> ValMarko : gksudo nautilus
[06:36] <lovloss> :)
[06:36] <lovloss> but BE CAREFUL
[06:36] <Mastastealth> !java | magic_ninja
[06:36] <ubotu> magic_ninja: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:36] <phiwum> nothlit: What aptitude logs?  I'm new to ubuntu.
[06:36] <ValMarko> tanks lovloss
[06:36] <nothlit> phiwum, nm, alternate program
[06:36] <AlexC_> How can I get Surround sound ( 5.1 ) with Ubuntu?
[06:36] <phiwum> I guess that ls -lrt /var/cache/apt/archives works a bit.
[06:36] <nothlit> !aptitude | phiwum
[06:36] <ubotu> phiwum: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[06:36] <ValMarko> tanks everybody
[06:36] <lovloss> jb0nd38372: lol :D Thats awesome. i need to figure out Wine
[06:36] <Blippe> !java
[06:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:36] <lovloss> ValMarko: they are mad at me because gksudo is risky
[06:37] <magic_ninja> Mastastealth: thans
[06:37] <lovloss> ValMarko: you can delete any file, even system files
[06:37] <nothlit> lovloss, gksu(do) is no riskier than sudo
[06:37] <ValMarko> :) I just want to move a file to a directory just created :)
[06:37] <ValMarko> Tanks anyway :)
[06:38] <lovloss> nothlit: Except your in a GUI and not a command line. clicks and keyboard are different
[06:38] <lasse> quit
[06:38] <lovloss> ValMarko: it works for me, i use it ALL the time. Just be safe :D
[06:38] <lasse> oops
[06:38] <nothlit> a user could just as easily do rm -r wildcard character
[06:38] <jb0nd38372> lovloss: me too , the current version of wine .0.9.2 I think actually runs wow, without any other configuration other than running wine wow.exe -opengl.  Back a couple wine builds ago, lotsa editing was required, maybe they can implement .net structures someday soon
[06:38] <daviey> Hi, how can i easily convert avi to mpeg?
[06:38] <nothlit> !mencoder
[06:39] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[06:39] <nothlit> !vlc | daviey
[06:39] <ubotu> daviey: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:39] <lovloss> jb0nd38372: Whenever i install anything in Wine, the program wont start. Says that the file is a bad exe.
[06:39] <daviey> nothlit, *easily*
[06:39] <nothlit> daviey, install vlc, it can transcode things
[06:39] <daviey> cheersd
[06:39] <nothlit> I think vlc as a whole actually has more features than mplayer
[06:39] <lovloss> gksudo is the worst thing ever for changing permissions though. It always messes up :<
[06:40] <nothlit> lovloss, again, it would be gksudo filemanager?
[06:40] <lovloss> nothlit: ya
[06:40] <nothlit> lovloss, and i've never had that problem
[06:41] <jb0nd38372> lovloss: Ehh, I've not had that issue as of yet... I did most of my installs in ubuntu with automatix, and with wine, just ran ./winecfg after it installed and setup wine with basic options... , did a mime type to tell wine to7 handle *.exe's when clicked in natulas, and most things try and run that way for me, otherwise I jump to howto's.
[06:42] <lovloss> jb0nd38372: hmm... i hope i get it configured right someday
[06:42] <jb0nd38372> lovloss: you will.. :) got faith!
[06:43] <brohken> hey
[06:43] <brohken> can someone give me a recommendation and some info?
[06:44] <nothlit> !automatix | jb0nd38372
[06:44] <ubotu> jb0nd38372: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:44] <nothlit> !ask | brohken
[06:44] <ubotu> brohken: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:44] <glenn> new to Ubuntu ! hello
[06:44] <brohken> im looking to install ubuntu. I need a recommendation on which kind of laptop to get. i'd like to run Beryl XGL with ubuntu
[06:45] <brohken> and I also want something that will easily work with Ubuntu/Beryl... a Dell maybe?
[06:45] <lovloss> okay let me show you guys what im doing. I installed Gabriel Knight 3, which wineapps says works fine
[06:45] <nothlit> !hi | glenn
[06:45] <ubotu> glenn: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:45] <sc4ttrbrain> brohken,if ur looking a bit old laptop, try HP nx9100 ,mine is, all works by default, even the so called special button etc
[06:45] <glenn> I'll just listen in
[06:45] <nothlit> brohken, you probably want aiglx, the best bet is something with an intel card, otherwise run nvidia.
[06:45] <lovloss> wine: could not load L"C:\\Sierra\\Gabriel Knight 3\\GK3.exe": Bad EXE format for
[06:45] <nothlit> brohken, don't get an ati
[06:46] <lovloss> and thats all. 'for'...
[06:46] <lovloss> above that it says err:module:map_image Could not map section .rsrc, file probably truncated
[06:46] <littlesniper> nothlit: ubuntu is installed now. i have the same issue as  during the installation fo the desktop CD: gnome starts then fall back to the login gdm screen
[06:46] <lovloss> i get this message when i try to run *any* program i installed in wine, though they install just fine. anyone know what may be my issue?
[06:47] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: have u run winecfg?
[06:47] <brohken> nothlit: I saw a really nice guide for how to get beryl working with ubuntu on a pc with a ati card
[06:47] <fbc> nothlit: does matter that the pictures that picasa is working with and thumnailing are 12 megapixel photos??
[06:47] <brohken> why stay away from ati?
[06:47] <nothlit> littlesniper, ok you'll need to press ctrl + alt+ f1, and login, then type less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:47] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: yes but i didnt see any changes to make, and my 'sound' tab crashes th cfg
[06:47] <nothlit> littlesniper, and look at the errors
[06:47] <swiftfeet8> After installing updates my sound card is no longer detected.  Any suggestions?
[06:47] <nothlit> fbc, lol definitely
[06:47] <littlesniper> nothlit: im on
[06:47] <nothlit> fbc, its probably not near finished yet
[06:48] <fbc> nothlit:  Crap... you get agood camera and it screws up your computer..
[06:48] <nothlit> brohken, ati support is not the best in linux, unless you go with old cards supported by the radeon driver instead of the fglrx drivers
[06:48] <nothlit> brohken, you can get ati, but i can't promise it won't be a HUGE hassle
[06:49] <brohken> hrmmm
[06:49] <sc4ttrbrain> ati radeon 9000 works great here
[06:49] <swiftfeet8> I have a list of the updates that were done.  The kernel headers were updated, which I am guessing has something to do with it?
[06:49] <brohken> how about the x series laptop radeons?
[06:49] <nothlit> littlesniper, after you type that, you have to hit enter and scroll until you see errors
[06:49] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: Do i need to add one of these quadrilion libraries?
[06:49] <nothlit> swiftfeet8, kernel headers have nothing to do with your sound not working
[06:49] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: what libs?
[06:50] <nothlit> brohken, the radeon driver does not correlate to the radeons, its just the name of the opensource driver
[06:50] <littlesniper> nothlit: :) im an old linux user, though not ubuntu. I got that :-P
[06:50] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: under the 'libraries' tab of winecfg.
[06:50] <swiftfeet8> I didn't think so, but the only other things that were updated were libavahi
[06:50] <nothlit> littlesniper, ok then you can find the errors, or use w3m and then paste them in the pastebin
[06:50] <nothlit> !pastebin | littlesniper
[06:50] <ubotu> littlesniper: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: if it need it,yes...
[06:51] <littlesniper> nothlit: i know that too :) though I dont know how i can do as X doesnt stay up as I told you
[06:51] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: The wineapp page didnt mention any libraries, it just said it runs fine :( but i get the error message when i run it
[06:51] <fbc> nothlit:  What's weird is that picasa uses something called explorer.exe that's using up my cock cycles over 75%. I gave it a nice value of 19 so that it doesn't consume all my cpu clock cycles.
[06:52] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: get any error?
[06:52] <nothlit> littlesniper, it sounds like x stays up from what you said, its just gnome initialisation fails and you get kicked back to gdm
[06:52] <sc4ttrbrain> fbc: picasa run through wine
[06:52] <nothlit> fbc, well i think explorer.exe is the program accessing the files?
[06:52] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: wine: could not load L"C:\\Sierra\\Gabriel Knight 3\\GK3.exe": Bad EXE format for
[06:52] <nothlit> fbc, yeah it is run through wine
[06:52] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: and err:module:map_image Could not map section .rsrc, file probably truncated
[06:52] <brohken> does anyone have a link to a super easy XGL Beryl install for ubuntu?
[06:53] <brohken> for a noob
[06:53] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: is it listed in wine appdb as runnable under wine?
[06:53] <nothlit> brohken, wiki.beryl-project.org
[06:53] <fbc> nothlit: I stopped using wine along time ago. I'm sober now.. :-p
[06:53] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: yes, they said it works fine
[06:53] <nothlit> fbc, hahaha
[06:53] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: it installed perfectly - although, it didnt go to the directx installer afterwards.
[06:54] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: it use opengl?
[06:54] <jb0nd38372> brohken: If your using an nvidia card.. this howto was extremely straight foward for me http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beryl.2FAIGLX_.28Nvidia.29
[06:54] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: It is supposed to run on directx
[06:54] <eilker> hi , i am installing ubuntu-server at the moment, anybody experienced with it ?
[06:54] <Atlas95> hello
[06:54] <sc4ttrbrain> hmm,never try this one..
[06:55] <nothlit> !anybody | eilker
[06:55] <ubotu> eilker: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:55] <brohken> is there an ati guide? just incase i do go with a dell
[06:55] <brianMan> Does multiple entries of "nameserver" in resolv.conf act as a "round-robin type DNS", or as an " if first doesn't respond try second, if second doesn't respond try third etc"?
[06:55] <Atlas95> I want to know how to use hibernate with a ati card AND if possible encrypted swap
[06:55] <daxxar> When I try to use the native 16:9-resolution on my projector, I get this: "(II) VIA(0): Not using mode "1280x720" (no mode of this name)"
[06:55] <Atlas95> could you help me please
[06:55] <daxxar> What could be the cause?
[06:55] <nothlit> !fixres
[06:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:55] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: but, bad exe format usually means,its not supported by wine yet (in my case)
[06:55] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: then why were these guys able to run it :<
[06:56] <sc4ttrbrain> gimme urls
[06:56] <littlesniper> nothlit: I have a lot of strange errors, it doesnt like the graphic card indeed. For e.g. it says /dev/dr/card0 return -1 (doesnt exist)
[06:56] <eilker> hi , i am installing ubuntu-server at the moment, there are options, install to hard disk, install lamp server, what to choose ?
[06:56] <daxxar> nothlit, that was fo rme?
[06:56] <nothlit> littlesniper, how did you set up your voodoo card before?
[06:56] <nothlit> eilker, it depends on what sort of server you want
[06:56] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: gimme urls
[06:56] <Mastastealth> eilker: do you want the LAMP stuff?
[06:56] <nothlit> eilker, describe it
[06:56] <Mastastealth> !LAMP
[06:56] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:57] <refus3d> come to #refus3d i will answer any questions
[06:57] <lovloss> sc4tterbrain: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=515
[06:57] <littlesniper> nothlit: what to do you mean, I did nothing. Though it was working fine with zenwalk, slackware also
[06:57] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: checking
[06:57] <eilker> nothlit: i want lamp too, but choosed install to hard disk, after installation, wii i not able to install lamp from cd ? did i do wrong ?
[06:57] <bXi> does one of you know any sound edit/recording tools cept for audacity
[06:57] <littlesniper> nothlit: yes zenwalk doesnt use gnome...
[06:58] <nothlit> eilker, nope you can still install it, the disc just makes it easier, follow the link/guid
[06:58] <nothlit> !lamp | eilker
[06:58] <ubotu> eilker: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:58] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: got the same version?
[06:58] <nothlit> littlesniper, so is it popping back to gdm or is x restarting?
[06:58] <eilker> nothlit: i know that guide, but if i choosed install lamp server , would it use cd as a repo ?
[06:58] <Roscar> I'm hoping for help installing the propriatary drivers for my ati video card. I'm running Dapper and have an ATI Radeon 9200 SE
[06:59] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: i have the version that ubuntu loads as a package, and it hasnt given me an update :/
[06:59] <nothlit> eilker, it can
[06:59] <Roscar> I've downloaded the driver from ATI's site but I'm unsure where to go from there.
[06:59] <nothlit> eilker, i think
[06:59] <nothlit> eilker, if you need to get rid of the cdrom, you can comment it out it /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:59] <Crazyl1nk> im in need of some help
[06:59] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: no imean the software version
[06:59] <littlesniper> nothlit: afaik go back to gdm, dont know if it also restart X
[06:59] <nothlit> !sources.list | eilker
[06:59] <ubotu> eilker: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:59] <cpic> Hi
[06:59] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: Gabriel knight? yes, same version
[06:59] <eilker> nothlit: so what happens, if i boot from cd and choose install lamp server, after installation
[07:00] <nothlit> littlesniper, if you don't see any console/black/white/text/foreground/black/white/flickering/blinking, x didn't restart
[07:00] <littlesniper> nothlit: i have also a complain about aiglx saying that the 3D driver claims not to support visual xxxx
[07:00] <tristam_> /* off topic: What does SOL stand for? As in this service is SOL */
[07:00] <nothlit> eilker, oh you can't do that, it'll start the installation from scratch
[07:00] <lovloss> tristam_: sh** out of luck
[07:00] <nothlit> littlesniper, um... thats really odd... aiglx is for composite window managers.. but you don't even have one installed
[07:01] <eilker> nothlit: and without lamp server, what is the use of ubuntu server ?
[07:01] <nothlit> littlesniper, what version # are you installing?
[07:01] <eilker> !evms
[07:01] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-15 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 304 kB
[07:01] <DaDiablo> I have the following problem: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Anyone know what i have to do?
[07:01] <littlesniper> nothlit: edgy from alternate CD
[07:01] <tristam_> thanks lovloss
[07:01] <Crazyl1nk> im trying to add a user over my terminal commands using the Useradd command but i get a reply saying "useradd: unable to lock password file" how can i fix this?
[07:01] <nothlit> eilker, you can build it from scratch... a non -x installation, you can run samba, nfs, lots of things
[07:01] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: how did the installation?have u install things that needed by the software?
[07:01] <lovloss> tristam_: ;)
[07:01] <lovloss> sc4ttrbrain: I believe so. It says directx is up to date
[07:01] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: directx 9?
[07:02] <lovloss> the one that came with GK3
[07:02] <littlesniper> actually I have black flickering in the short time I have gnome, before falling back to gdm. I dont know if this is a X restarting sign
[07:02] <eilker> nothlit: i am gonna format and choose lamp server installation...
[07:02] <lovloss> which is like 6.
[07:02] <pike_> DaDiablo: im assuming thats mplayer ? what are you wanting to do?
[07:02] <nothlit> littlesniper, #xorg might be able to help you
[07:02] <cpic> Hi, I need some help please. I'm trying to configure spamassassin with amavis-new in dapper, but it just doesn't work, amavis-new works ok with clam-av but spamassassin. Has someone succeded configuring this in dapper?
[07:02] <nothlit> littlesniper, you can restart x with ctrl+alt+backspace and see if theres any difference
[07:03] <littlesniper> nothlit: :/ are you sure its their issue ? i mean the same computer works for other linux distribution which are shipped with xorg as well
[07:03] <Cisco> hi evrebody
[07:03] <nothlit> littlesniper, its not but they might be able to help you, otherwise you can stick around here and keep asking or ask on ubuntuforums.org
[07:03] <sc4ttrbrain> lovloss: hmm...sorry dunno bout this one,it should load just fine
[07:03] <swiftfeet8> could someone help me with the syntax in modprobe.d/alsa-base?
[07:03] <Cisco> can anyone help me with gdm?
[07:03] <nothlit> !forums
[07:04] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[07:04] <nothlit> !anyone | Cisco
[07:04] <ubotu> Cisco: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:04] <littlesniper> nothliti: thank you
[07:04] <swiftfeet8> !modprobe.conf
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <swiftfeet8> !alsa-base
[07:04] <ubotu> alsa-base: ALSA driver configuration files. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.11-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 153 kB, installed size 332 kB
[07:04] <nothlit> swiftfeet8, to autoload modules just put the name in a new line on /etc/modules
[07:05] <Cisco> ah ok
[07:05] <chaman> hello
[07:05] <Cisco> I'm italian, so i try to expose as i can my problem
[07:05] <Cisco> So
[07:05] <eilker> nothlit: can we say that the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-server is only X ?
[07:05] <pike_> eilker: and other bloat
[07:06] <nothlit> eilker, no, it lacks all the desktop packages, and suites
[07:06] <eilker> pike_:bloat ?
[07:06] <magic_ninja> does anyone have the java6 runtime (their download site is down) or know a link to another site that hosts them
[07:06] <sc4ttrbrain> eilker: the server kernel is different i think
[07:06] <Cisco> i have some problems with login manager: gdm doesent start and the icon of log out doesn't show me icon to rebbot or shoutdown pc
[07:07] <pike_> eilker: i was refering to the suites and other software you might not use but is installed
[07:07] <Mastastealth> Cisco: are you using XGL?
[07:07] <Cisco> i'm on edgy, aiglx so, with compiz, but no activated
[07:07] <Crazyl1nk> im trying to add a user over my terminal commands using the Useradd command but i get a reply saying "useradd: unable to lock password file" how can i fix this?
[07:07] <finalbeta> Anyone using Nicotine as soulseek client? i'm guessing the version in edgy is already to old to stay connected to the network.
[07:08] <finalbeta> That's really a problem with things like that and wine, they are outdated the moment they are put in the repo.
[07:08] <Cisco> but i dont think is aiglx problem
[07:08] <Cisco> if i write on shell dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:09] <Cisco> the output is:sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:09] <swiftfeet8> but when I try loading the module with modprobe I get nothing
[07:09] <Cisco>  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...                              * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[07:09] <Cisco> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[07:09] <swiftfeet8> shadow_7: when I try to load the module with modprobe I get nothing
[07:09] <NoonInSF> Does ubuntu just not support sleep on the power pc platform?
[07:09] <nothlit> sc4ttrbrain, ehm? kernel different?
[07:09] <Cisco> i try to remove and install again by synaptic gdm, but it's the same
[07:10] <sc4ttrbrain> nothlit: doesnt it come with kernel automized for server?
[07:10] <Mastastealth> Cisco: Ok, I was asking about XGL cuz that happened when I had it instsalled (the logout buttons missing), but aiglx hasnt messed with that. if you do a "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" when you are in the console mode (ctrl-alt-f1), what happens?
[07:11] <nothlit> sc4ttrbrain, ehm I don't think so, could be wrong
[07:11] <Cisco> now i try
[07:11] <eilker> ssh host@user // isnt it correct ?
[07:12] <nothlit> eilker, user@host
[07:12] <nothlit> rofl
[07:12] <sc4ttrbrain> not automized > optimized
[07:12] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Does nesting groups work in /etc/group?
[07:12] <nothlit> sc4ttrbrain, people don't really read word by word anyways lol
[07:12] <Jessehk> If I burn a Windows CD image in Ubuntu, will it work in Windows?
[07:12] <eilker> nothlit: doesnt ubuntu-server come ssh installed ?
[07:12] <nothlit> It should
[07:12] <ClydeGoffe> Hey does anyone know anything about dm-raid and lvm?
[07:12] <nothlit> eilker, no?
[07:12] <sc4ttrbrain> nothlit: yeah lol
[07:12] <littlesniper> nothlit: info: when I put vesa as graphic driver, it works
[07:13] <nothlit> eilker, its plain, or with dns or lamp
[07:13] <ollekalle> q: I have a problem. I just installed xorg with some auto-login feature. During installation x was running smoothly but after reboot by screen goes black. It gets no signal according to the crt-LED. Any suggestions on where to start serching for problems?
[07:13] <ClydeGoffe> sorry i meant md-raid
[07:13] <nothlit> eilker, JUST ubuntu-minimal+standard
[07:13] <zylche> I have a game that sometimes crashes Ubuntu, but I can't find anything in the system logs about it, is there anything else I can check?
[07:13] <eilker> nothlit: i see...
[07:13] <nothlit> littlesniper, thats great :)
[07:13] <littlesniper> nothlit: the driver installed by ubuntu for vodoo 3 doesnt work
[07:13] <nothlit> littlesniper, ahh
[07:13] <littlesniper> nothlit: so it seems :/
[07:13] <h0ndaracer2> hello everyoone
[07:14] <nothlit> littlesniper, i would have recommended a legacy/compatibility driver but I don't really know about voodoo stuff
[07:14] <eilker> nothlit: is it enough to install svgalib-bin for links2 ? do i need more packages ?
[07:14] <ClydeGoffe> I have an md raid 1 device that is a physical volume being used by a lvm volume group that i have
[07:14] <ClydeGoffe> i want to stop this md device i.e mdadm -S /dev/md
[07:14] <ClydeGoffe> but it keeps telling me the device is busy
[07:14] <nothlit> eilker, you can just use the regular framebuffer... (and gpm if you want) ... or use directfb, but you'll need to run it as root
[07:14] <nothlit> !framebuffer | eilker
[07:14] <ubotu> eilker: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[07:14] <Crazyl1nk> im getting a "useradd: unable to lock password file" when i attempt to add a user from terminal, Why?
[07:15] <NoonInSF> It's amazing, this channel has been so helpful when i've asked my about installing, and when i asked about getting my network card to work. But the moment i mention my powerpc not sleeping. The room goes silent. (well as silent as it can get) I mean, ubuntu not being able to support hibernate, and suspend is a huge issue.
[07:15] <nothlit> eilker, if you install svgalib, you'll need to configure it, just like the xorg config, but manually
[07:15] <ClydeGoffe> I realize that i need to somehow diactivate that volume group to make it unbusy
[07:15] <ClydeGoffe> but not sure how
[07:15] <nothlit> NoonInSF, not so much, windows doesn't have it really working, and you can still shutdown/startup
[07:16] <Mastastealth> NoonInSF, I'm not sure if you've heard too, but Ubuntu will not be officially supporting PPC soon...
[07:16] <nothlit> umount it?
[07:16] <nothlit> fluxbuntu is developing a pcc branch, for ps3 support
[07:17] <Dimon> test
[07:17] <zylche> ERROR!
[07:17] <NoonInSF> is there any other flavor of linux with more work being done for the powerpc?
[07:17] <nothlit> eilker, why do you have one set?
[07:17] <deep> fatal error O_o
[07:17] <nothlit> gentoo should support it well
[07:17] <zylche> for Elischa and bitmvnch, true
[07:17] <nothlit> yellow dog?
[07:17] <pike_> is yellowdog still active?
[07:18] <Crazyl1nk> *wave* help-o?
[07:18] <zylche> it thought it changed colour
[07:18] <zyth> anyone know how i check if DMA is enabled for my hard disk?
[07:18] <Mastastealth> yellowdog was the f its PS3 distro, so I guess it has to be active
[07:18] <nothlit> dunno Seveas said something about it i think a day or two ago
[07:18] <Mastastealth> *first
[07:18] <Slart> NoonInSF: from what I've heard Debian at least tries to work on just about everything.. don't know about powerpc though
[07:18] <zylche> windows > linux unless someone helps
[07:18] <nothlit> zyth, man hdparm
[07:18] <Seveas> nothlit, .
[07:18] <Seveas> ?
[07:18] <zylche> I have a game that sometimes crashes Ubuntu, but I can't find anything in the system logs about it, is there anything else I can check?
[07:18] <zylche> :P
[07:18] <mumrah> i'm having trouble setting up a printer
[07:18] <nothlit> Seveas, you said something about yellowdog a few days ago  i think?
[07:18] <zylche> I thought that was a lost dog
[07:18] <jughead> the default driver that loaded for my onboard graphics is the "i810" driver.  I have a 945GM mobile express chipset; is there a better driver?  my games run slow and I get the "warning:  3D driver claims not to support visual 0x5b"
[07:18] <mumrah> it detects and installed fine, but when it prints, nothing gets printed
[07:19] <nothlit> !windows | zylche
[07:19] <ubotu> zylche: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:19] <nothlit> zylche, :P
[07:19] <Mastastealth> !intel
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <nothlit> help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[07:20] <zylche> :P
[07:20] <nothlit> i think
[07:20] <eilker> nothlit: is  directfb  a package ?
[07:20] <Slart> I have 2 linux-boxes working at the moment.. is there some native way of sharing files between them or should I use samba on both?
[07:20] <nothlit> !framebuffer | eilker
[07:20] <ubotu> eilker: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[07:20] <Cisco> i'm returned
[07:20] <pike_> !nfs| Slart
[07:20] <nothlit> eilker, it is, but you can just use the plain old framebuffer
[07:20] <ubotu> Slart: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:21] <bigbro> Slart: You can use SAMBA, though I'd recommend NFS if you don't need to connect any windows machines to them.
[07:21] <pike_> Slart: i also use sshfs to mount remote systems
[07:21] <daxxar> I was wondering if anyone could offer me some help in getting my projector to work with 1280x720 (16:9). I've tried setting it in xorg.conf, and later set a custom modeline, but it still falls back to e.g. 1024x768. Could someone take a look at my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log? They're here: http://daxxar.com/~daxxar/Xorg.0.log http://daxxar.com/~daxxar/xorg.conf
[07:21] <Slart> pike_: hmm.. I've heard some bad things about nfs regarding to security...
[07:21] <nothlit> fuse virtual fs's are great
[07:21] <Cisco> when i wrote restrt gdm, system said me, error display and put me out, in other display (display 1)
[07:21] <eilker> nothlit: ahaa:) fb means frame buffer:) and the biggest team of world for me  :)
[07:21] <Crazyl1nk> i need help please, people are waiting for me to finish this project, i need help
[07:22] <Slart> but sshfs and nfs are good alternatives then?
[07:22] <nothlit> Slart, doesn't matter if you keep it within a network
[07:22] <nothlit> !ask | Crazyl1nk
[07:22] <ubotu> Crazyl1nk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:22] <Mastastealth> Cisco: do you have an ATI card?
[07:22] <Crazyl1nk> i do ask, no one answers >_<
[07:22] <Cisco> no, intel integrated
[07:22] <Cisco> i810
[07:22] <Cisco> yesterday all work good
[07:22] <jengc0il> nothlit: wht happend if i upgrade
[07:22] <Slart> nothlit, pike_: ok, I'll go check on those.. thanks!
[07:22] <jengc0il> jengc0il@insecure-b0x:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:22] <Cisco> i try to install bum and gfxboot
[07:22] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: use adduser, not useradd
[07:22] <nothlit> jengc0il, elaborate please?
[07:22] <Cisco> and this problem come
[07:23] <Cisco> i have uninstall bum and gfxboot by synaptic but the problems remain...
[07:23] <jengc0il> nothlit: do all old package must update again
[07:23] <mzanfardino> okay, another rookie question: I'm trying to transfer a file from one machine to anther.  I've installed ftpd and wu-ftpd (as recommended by ftpd) on the host machine, yet I cannot connect to it.  What am I missing?
[07:23] <nothlit> jengc0il, from what state?
[07:24] <Cisco> any idea?
[07:24] <nothlit> jengc0il, to what state
[07:24] <bigbro> mzanfardino: Ignore FTP unless you must use it for some reason. Use scp <file> <remotehost>:
[07:24] <nothlit> mzanfardino, you installed TWO ftp daemons?
[07:24] <Cisco> when systen put me on displasy 1, gdm work correctly
[07:24] <mzanfardino> bigbro: I'm not familiar with scp
[07:24] <nothlit> !gtfp | mzanfardino
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtfp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <eilker> nothlit: sorry for my newbie questions, but what i want to is to reach internet graphically in console, i read fb but didnt get the point...
[07:25] <mzanfardino> nothlit: I installed ftpd first, wasn't able to connect, then read that I shouldbe using wu-ftpd.
[07:25] <nothlit> mzanfardino, you can also use sftp
[07:25] <pike_> mzanfardino: an alternative is to use scp sftp.  there is a gui windows client called winscp. all you have to do at the server is apt-get install openssh-server
[07:25] <bigbro> mzanfardino: It's Secure CoPy. Use it instead of FTP.
[07:25] <nothlit> eilker, you need to edit your grub.conf to include a vga code
[07:25] <mzanfardino> pike_: will that permit remote access to my machine?
[07:25] <nothlit> !gftp | mzanfardino
[07:25] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-14ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[07:25] <bigbro> mzanfardino: Are they both Linux machines?
[07:25] <pike_> mzanfardino: yes
[07:25] <mzanfardino> yes
[07:25] <nothlit> eilker, then you will need to restart, and run links2 -g
[07:25] <Crazyl1nk> adduser -d /home/teamspeak teamspeak = Option d is ambiguous (debug, disabled-login, disabled-password) adduser: The user `/home/teamspeak' does not exist.
[07:25] <mzanfardino> ok, one sec
[07:26] <bigbro> mzanfardino: Use scp - it will already be installed and ready to run - no daemons to configure, nothing.
[07:26] <jengc0il> nothlit: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[07:26] <bigbro> mzanfardino: It just works - and is secure.
[07:26] <pike_> mzanfardino: if your machine is exposed to the internet id uninstall the ftp server unless you are comfortable setting it up right
[07:26] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: that's not the correct syntax.  Just do   adduser teamspeak
[07:26] <bigbro> !scp | mzanfardino
[07:26] <ubotu> mzanfardino: SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[07:26] <nothlit> sftp is also already installed
[07:26] <jengc0il> nothlit: step apt-get update
[07:26] <nothlit> bigbro, you  haven't told him/her that he needs to install openssh-server first
[07:27] <padlefot> why does the ircd resolve my host as 'i=' ?
[07:27] <Crazyl1nk> only root may add user or group, do i run in root terminal?
[07:27] <Thuryn> no
[07:27] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: sudo adduser teamspeak
[07:27] <Crazyl1nk> (forgive me im learning as i go)
[07:27] <padlefot> same as the thilde on other networks? no working identd?
[07:27] <nothlit> jengc0il, you're running dapper?
[07:27] <jengc0il> nothlit: yup
[07:27] <jengc0il> LTS
[07:27] <jengc0il> nothlit: LTS 6.06
[07:27] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: why not use system > administration > users and groups ?
[07:28] <Crazyl1nk> because id like to run as this page tells me, i hate turning off from the commands they give me because then i dont know where i went wrong
[07:28] <nothlit> jengc0il, oh upgrade/dist-upgrade, if you don't modify sources.list in a specific way, will just basically keep your packages up to date, after you syncronise the lists with update
[07:28] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: what page?
[07:29] <Crazyl1nk> http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=tutorial_b
[07:29] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: ok did that adduser command work?
[07:29] <eilker> !repo
[07:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:29] <jengc0il> nothlit: oic. mean all that pckage had install will not missing
[07:30] <Crazyl1nk> it did let me finish up the questions its asking me
[07:30] <buscon> Hi, how can I make an ubuntu mirror from a debian machine?
[07:30] <Crazyl1nk> ok yes
[07:30] <Crazyl1nk> user is added
[07:31] <nothlit> buscon, just use a guide to set up a mirror but mirror an ubuntu repository instead
[07:32] <buscon> nothlit, that's what I did, but I get
[07:32] <buscon> Download of dists/edgy/Release failed: 404 Not Found Download of dists/edgy/Release.gpg failed: 404 Not Found Release signature does not verify.
[07:32] <eilker> how to find the repo for a package ? i am looing for links2 but i dont know at which repo it is...
[07:32] <eilker> *looking
[07:32] <nothlit> buscon, you needto get the gpg key
[07:32] <nothlit> !info links2
[07:32] <ubotu> links2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre23-1 (edgy), package size 2009 kB, installed size 3224 kB
[07:32] <pike_> eilker: i do apt-cache madison packagename
[07:33] <pike_> eilker: er but that wont help you if repo isnt there  :)
[07:33] <mzanfardino> thank you.  SCP seems to do the trick.
[07:33] <eilker> pike_: madison ? :)
[07:33] <hjmills> eilker: if its in ubuntu just enable them all and install it or use apt-cache or if its not on the ubuntu repos search on apt.org (i think thats right) but they may not work
[07:33] <pike_> eilker: fyi it in universe
[07:34] <zylche> talking of crashes, ubuntu just did it on its very own..
[07:34] <jrib> ubotu: tell Crazyl1nk about sudo
[07:34] <nothlit> jrib, why you using tell?
[07:35] <l3mr> is there a way to upgrade from a running 32bit system to a 64bit ubuntu? ( i installed my old harddisk with i386 ubu in my new 64bit system ), or do i have to install the base system anew?
[07:35] <ollekalle> q: my nvida-driver seems to stop working after I installed gdm. (I managed to run while installing though). If I change driver to vesa in xorg.conf x starts but with nvidia I get a black screen. Any ideas?
[07:35] <ven0m> Guys, i am new to linux, and i got a problem with streaming videos, on YouTube for example - i hear no sound in NONE of them. what am i missing to fix that?
[07:35] <nothlit> !flash9
[07:35] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[07:35] <mathiouzz> ollekalle take a look at /var/log/xorg.o.loh
[07:36] <mathiouzz> log*
[07:36] <ven0m> i installed flash 9 already
[07:36] <jrib> nothlit: why not?
[07:36] <mathiouzz> u'll probably find the reason why u've got a black screen
[07:36] <nothlit> jrib, so other users could potentially see it and learn something? dunno
[07:36] <eilker> pike_: thanx
[07:36] <ven0m> !backports
[07:36] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[07:37] <pike_> ven0m: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297298 maybe
[07:37] <jrib> nothlit: I guess that's a godo point
[07:37] <defrex0> also make sure you have a plugin and not just the player
[07:37] <eilker> nothlit: is 3 gb enough for ubuntu server with lamp ?
[07:37] <nothlit> ollekalle, its /var/log/Xorg.0.log (the capitalised X is important)
[07:37] <mathiouzz> too late nothlit :P
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[07:37] <nothlit> eilker, should be, depends on how large your /var/www will be
[07:38] <nothlit> mathiouzz, reread what  I said
[07:38] <lasse__> eilker  its probably enoguh
[07:38] <mathiouzz> erh oky :P
[07:38] <eilker> nothlit: got it, just practicing here :)
[07:38] <ollekalle> nothlit, mathiouzz: It keeps only the last session logged, right?
[07:38] <cbx33> is there a nice piece of ubuntu software to burn a slideshow for use o na dvd playert?
[07:38] <mailer>  where did i loose the dvd image i just copied while trying to write multiple copies in edgy?
[07:39] <mathiouzz> or take a look at /var/log/gdm sumthin
[07:39] <mailer> ie, where in filesysytem...
[07:39] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: from what youv told me and from this page im almost done, if you can do you mind helping me with the last few steps?
[07:39] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: just ask the channel, I'll help if I can
[07:39] <nothlit> ollekalle, more sessions will get logged as well... take a look in /var/log... if on the command line use ls /var/log
[07:39] <l3mr> is it possible to resize an ext3 partition without losing any data on that partition ( given that there is enough free space ) ?
[07:40] <nothlit> !gparted | l3mr
[07:40] <ubotu> l3mr: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:40] <Helpmeee> When i try to install nvidia drivers i get following msg: You appear to be using a modular X.org release, but nvidia-installer was unable to determine the correct X library installation path with the pkg-config utility
[07:40] <Helpmeee> Whats wrong?
[07:40] <XiXaQ> how can I find out which other machines are on my subnet?
[07:40] <nothlit> !xorg-dev
[07:40] <ubotu> xorg-dev: the X.Org X Window System development libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[07:40] <ubox> hey all
[07:41] <Helpmeee> im having some trouble installing that
[07:41] <nothlit> Helpmeee, you'll need to tell us what you error messages are
[07:42] <ubox> anyone knows about -> fetchmail: socket error while fetching from ...
[07:42] <carlos42> my friend's aunt is having a disaster area with an old pc, i got sketchy information from him but sounds like virus infections and the thing is dying.  not sure of age of pc but he thinks it's running windows 95, possibly windows 98 so it's likely to be more than 6 years old, can't remember what specs were back then, probably pentium/p2 with 16-64MB ram.  i suggested Ubuntu if she doesn't want to replace the pc.  will Ubuntu work on such a lo
[07:42] <carlos42> spec PC?
[07:42] <pike_> carlos42: go with xubuntu ligher but still gui friendly
[07:42] <bigbro> carlos42: PRobably, yes. But your question is like asking how long a piece of string is.
[07:42] <Helpmeee> nothlit, Nvidia thing or  or xorg-dev
[07:42] <ollekalle> nothlit, mathiouzz: not much fishy in the log. There are a handful of "NVIDIA(0): WAIT...". Any clues or something I should look for?
[07:43] <bigbro> carlos42: It's a better (IMHO) alternative than any of the modern windows variants.
[07:43] <nothlit> Helpmeee, xorg-dev
[07:43] <nothlit> ollekalle, anything with ER or error
[07:43] <Helpmeee> Hmm.. now that I think of it, i dont think that i've tried to install that ...
[07:43] <ubox> anyone knows about -> fetchmail: socket error while fetching from ...
[07:43] <nothlit> carlos42, it won't work on something with such low ram
[07:43] <knoppix> knkn
[07:43] <nothlit> carlos42, theres a very slight chance xubuntu may run, but I doubt it
[07:43] <togawoga> hiya - trying to install ubuntu
[07:44] <carlos42> (g) :-) yes, i know... "work" is a relative term.... all she needs is to do web surfing and edit word documents I think.  Is there some way of just saying to ubuntu when it starts "only install the bare minimum"?
[07:44] <Crazyl1nk> the page askes me to run a command "tar -xjf ts2_server_rc2_20201.tar.bz2" but it doesnt work.
[07:44] <Helpmeee> nothlit, could you write the commandline here on how to isntall it? Wanna get things right ;p
[07:44] <togawoga> i'm getting very confused...I boot up with the cd, and i just get a brown screen
[07:44] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: pastebin the output
[07:44] <nothlit> carlos42, not unless you want to start without graphics and do things from the command line
[07:44] <jrib> !pastebin | Crazyl1nk
[07:44] <ubotu> Crazyl1nk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:44] <togawoga> i can do ctrl-alt-F1 and get a prompt, but no commands do anything other than just sit there
[07:44] <nothlit> Helpmeee, sudo aptitude install xorg-dev
[07:45] <nothlit> togawoga, did you log in?
[07:45] <ubox> anyone for fetchmail error?
[07:45] <togawoga> no i didn't log in
[07:45] <ollekalle> nothlit: not a single er or error (lots of vERsion though :/ ). I appreciate any suggestions...
[07:45] <Helpmeee> nothlit, thanks, gonna try it right away :)
[07:45] <mailer> now where did i lose the dvd disc image I copied into edgy while trying to write multiple copies?
[07:45] <carlos42> nothlit: i'd have no problem doing that myself, i'm an old hand with various linux distros but i was going to post my friend a CD and get him to do it... if it looks at all hard he'll give up and go out and spend 400 on a low spec box to run XP Home (yuk!!)
[07:46] <togawoga> i put the cd in and hit the 'run or install ubuntu' option
[07:46] <nothlit> bah my factoids are all rejected
[07:46] <togawoga> i can't even run 'ls' the prompt just hangs
[07:46] <nothlit> carlos42, DSL? you could give him xubuntu and hope it works
[07:46] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: i dont understand what you mean
[07:47] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: copy the command you entered, as well as the output.  Then go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste it in the form there.  Submit it.  Then give us the url
[07:47] <togawoga> somehow i'm booting up, but the installer isn't starting
[07:47] <zylche> -_-
[07:47] <togawoga> is the installer supposed to start when you boot off of the cd?
[07:47] <nothlit> !alternate | togawoga
[07:47] <ubotu> togawoga: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:48] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: there was no output that the problem ._.
[07:48] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: paste the command then
[07:48] <togawoga> yes i get that its a live cd, but how do i get from the live part to starting the installation?
[07:48] <s0nix> hi
[07:48] <togawoga> i just get a blank screen with a mouse cursor
[07:49] <donvella> help please i have to goto work but i only have 10minutes, i just need to know how to navigate to my boot folder in my file system
[07:49] <donvella> through console that is
[07:49] <s0nix> anyone here use vmware with a guest OS WINXP installed on a physical disk... i got a problem with hal.dll :(
[07:49] <nothlit> !alternate | togawoga
[07:49] <ubotu> togawoga: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:49] <mailer> donvella, ls /boot
[07:49] <carlos42> nothlit: :-) she doesn't even have broadband i think - he was reporting download speeds of 3k per second, which sounds like dialup to me... he's non technical... I think he's already given up on linux as he thinks it sounds hard, shame to fork out 400 though and end up with windows XP which will go out of support in a few years, is inferior and virus prone when she could end up with a beautiful new experience, mind you I'm not trekking 30 m
[07:49] <carlos42> out to Maidenhead to install it for her
[07:49] <nothlit> donvella, cd /boot
[07:49] <togawoga> nothlit are you trying to tell me i should be using the alternate cd?
[07:50] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: you can do most of that stuff with the gui.  The wget command just downloads a file.  The tar -xjf thing just extracts it
[07:50] <donvella> cheers
[07:50] <nothlit> carlos42, how do you expect him to run xp on 64mb ram?
[07:50] <Crazyl1nk> i know
[07:50] <nothlit> togawoga, its easier than fixing X on the livecd
[07:50] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: what is GUI?
[07:50] <togawoga> ok thanks
[07:50] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: graphical user interface
[07:50] <nothlit> GUI = graphical user interface
[07:50] <togawoga> hopei have another blank cd around :(
[07:50] <Crazyl1nk> well dont i feel dumb.
[07:51] <carlos42> nothlit - sorry not to be clear.... i said his options are (1) upgrade to linux or (2) throw the pc away and buy a new one with XP on it for about 400
[07:51] <carlos42> option (3), trying to make windows 98 or 95 work and be safe is just not worth it
[07:52] <Helpmeee> nothlit, is it "aptidue"
[07:52] <nothlit> !aptitude | Helpmeee
[07:52] <ubotu> Helpmeee: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[07:52] <eilker> nothlit: i am in partioaning screen, 1/erase the disk 2/ erase the disk and use lvm , what to choose
[07:52] <eilker> !lvm
[07:52] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:53] <nothlit> eilker, depends on what you want to use.. lvm is advanced, but lets you do things like resize on the fly, span across multiple partitions, snapshots and so on
[07:53] <nothlit> eilker, do you want to wipe the whole disk?
[07:53] <mrabbit> hey, torrents on ubuntu download slowly whilst the upload speed is normal, my router is fine as the speeds are ok on windows and were on suse 10.1 which i stopped using
[07:53] <nothlit> eilker, lvm takes more work, i would recommend using ext3
[07:53] <eilker> nothlit: working with vmware server
[07:54] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: i switched to the teamspeak profile from my terminal, im punching the commands from the terminal. is there a easier way to do the remaining steps?
[07:54] <nothlit> eilker, just choose 1
[07:54] <seppe> hi, does anyone has a solution to the poor ntfs-3g performance when writing large files (a 4 GB file takes 3 hours to copy!)
[07:54] <eilker> nothlit: sorry u recommend without lvm ?
[07:54] <nothlit> seppe, don't use ntfs
[07:54] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: what step are you on?
[07:54] <mrabbit> can anybody plz help me sort out my slow torrents? i've tried azureus and ktorrent
[07:54] <seppe> easy said
[07:54] <XiXaQ> hmm. Dependency is not satisfiable: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 <-- How can I fix that?
[07:54] <nothlit> eilker, yeah its advanced, there will be graphical tools for it in feisty probably, but now now
[07:54] <shwag> how do I troubleshoot a VHOST that is not being recognized?
[07:55] <seppe> it's a external hard drive I want to use in Windows machines and Linux machines without installing ext2 s
[07:55] <seppe> support for windows
[07:55] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: the command right under the *Unpack the Linux server by using the following command*
[07:55] <nothlit> seppe, use FAT
[07:55] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: right click on the tar.bz2 you downloaded and extract it
[07:56] <mralphabet> seppe: are you sure it is usb 2.0?
[07:56] <seppe> the problem with FAT32 is that it can't handle files larger than 4 GB
[07:56] <seppe> yes, it's USB 2.0
[07:56] <mralphabet> those speeds seem right for usb 1.1
[07:56] <nothlit> you're using it for backup images?
[07:56] <seppe> yeah, kind of :)
[07:56] <mralphabet> but is it recognized as 2.0
[07:56] <seppe> DVD images
[07:56] <nothlit> you can always use the split command
[07:56] <seppe> dunno, how can I check?
[07:57] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: done
[07:57] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: now you can do the remaining steps in your terminal
[07:57] <seppe> *sigh* I guess I have to format it as ext2 and install that driver from fs-driver.org on all Windows machines I tough with this external hdd
[07:57] <nothlit> seppe, lshw
[07:58] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: "In order to start the server change into the 'tss2_rc2'..." this one
[07:58] <eilker> could anyone tell me a way to damage my mbr ?
[07:58] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: wont this change anything i did in the remaing steps?
[07:58] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: no
[07:58] <l3mr> If i run gparted from the ubuntu live cd and resize my ext3 partition, no data will be deleted?
[07:58] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: what you just did and that tar command are the same thing
[07:59] <Crazyl1nk> ok thank you one second
[07:59] <carlos42> thanks guys... looks like ubuntu can't solve this lady's problems but thanks very much for your input...
[07:59] <nothlit> l3mr, correct
[07:59] <jokoon> Lol my screen looks like I'm using a lens, but in full screen. Just after trying to launch a quake 3 game
[07:59] <jokoon> not bad
[07:59] <jokoon> how do I exit this ?
[07:59] <eilker> how to damage my mbr ??
[07:59] <seppe> wierd, lshw | grep usb shows 2 USB busses as usb-1.10 and one as usb-2.0, and I have only 2 USB slots :)
[07:59] <pike_> eilker: dd?
[07:59] <l3mr> nothlit: ok, thanks. just wanted to make sure.
[07:59] <pike_> eilker: cat?
[07:59] <l3mr> :)
[08:00] <xerox> hola
[08:00] <pike_> etc
[08:00] <xerox> alguien por ahi
[08:00] <eilker> pike_: i wanna damage my mbr....
[08:00] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: i love you o_o....
[08:00] <pike_> eilker: why?
[08:00] <eilker> pike_: to leanr how to fix it
[08:00] <nothlit> eilker, use dd and overwrite those blocks
[08:00] <eilker> *learn
[08:00] <chutzpah> are there any imagemagick packages that don't depend on x11?
[08:01] <eilker> !dd
[08:01] <nothlit> eilker, read how to back up your mbr with dd, then reverse the command
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <nothlit> or you can fill it with something from /dev/urandom
[08:01] <nothlit> or null
[08:01] <nothlit> You could use an arbitrary file if you wanted
[08:01] <hjmills> www.<firstname>.<lastname>.youaremighty.com
[08:02] <eilker> nothlit: more clear pls, sudo dd /than ?
[08:02] <nothlit> eilker, google backup mbr dd
[08:02] <nothlit> eilker, and read the usage of dd, wikipedia has a nice article
[08:02] <eilker> nothlit: ok thanx
[08:03] <nothlit> eilker, then restore the mbr with /dev/urandom  or null or an artbitrary file
[08:03] <nothlit> eilker, the howtos tell you how to restore, basically restore it with something else
[08:03] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: now that the hard part is out of the way, do you know of anything about Teamspeak?
[08:03] <jrib> Crazyl1nk: nope
[08:03] <eilker> nothlit: i have already read howto restore , but i dont know howto damage :)
[08:03] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: crap... time for trial and error.
[08:04] <nothlit> eilker, lol don't use the .img file to restore with
[08:04] <eilker> nothlit: in fact i damaged it many times without knowing it is my nightmare :D
[08:04] <nothlit> eilker, restore instead from /dev/urandom or /dev/null or /path/to/file.mp3
[08:05] <jokoon> can, someone, tell me, how, to return, in normal, fullscreen mode, on desktop ?
[08:05] <nothlit> so it would be if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
[08:05] <nothlit> with a limiter of course
[08:05] <nothlit> make sure you use a limiter or it'll wipe the whole drive, and you wouldn't want that
[08:06] <morghot> hi all
[08:07] <eilker> nothlit: in fact i still didnt understand how to do it, i think i need to google...
[08:07] <jokoon> How to quit the zooming mode on ubuntu desktop ?
[08:07] <nothlit> eilker, do you understand how dd works?
[08:07] <nothlit> eilker, man dd
[08:07] <seppe> wasn't there a graphical format/create FS utility in Gnome present? If so, what is it called and where do I find it?
[08:08] <eilker> nothlit: i was already start to read it:)
[08:08] <nothlit> eilker, :D:D
[08:08] <l3mr> seppe: gparted?
[08:08] <nothlit> !gparted | seppe
[08:08] <ubotu> seppe: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:08] <seppe> yeah, but I guess it isn't installed default
[08:08] <seppe> because I don't have it right now :)
[08:08] <l3mr> seppe: but you have apt-get
[08:08] <l3mr> :)
[08:08] <seppe> yeah, and a slow internet connection ;)
[08:08] <Eddie> i have a wireless card and the driver it loads i dont want so i have to rmmod the driver and modprobe the correct one everytime. Is there a way to set the driver to the one i wish so i dont have to do this everytime i reboot
[08:09] <seppe> ah its almost downloaded hehe
[08:09] <goochy> isn't there a VNC viewer built into ubuntu?
[08:09] <nothlit> yeah
[08:10] <nothlit> Applications, Internet, Terminal whatever
[08:10] <brussel> I'm not happy with Ubuntu's support of keyboards. I finally had to go buy another keyboard because Ubuntu just isn't up to speed.
[08:10] <chutzpah> are there any imagemagick packages that don't depend on X?
[08:10] <Pf123b> What would a channel be for help on mysql-server on ubuntu?
[08:10] <nothlit> did you try reconfiguring xorg?
[08:10] <nothlit> Pf123b, this one
[08:10] <eilker> nothlit: is "dd mbr" very stupid approach ? so sorry
[08:11] <pike_> Eddie: you should be able to add a module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist  and the one to load to /etc/modules
[08:11] <Pf123b> Well, I just apt-get installed' mysql-server, and yea, im trying to login, telling me wrong password, what would my password be?
[08:11] <nothlit> chutzpah, Depends: libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.4-1), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2), libice6, libjasper-1.701-1 (>= 1.701.0), libjpeg62, liblcms1 (>= 1.08-1), libmagick9, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libsm6, libtiff4, libx11-6, libxext6, libxml2 (>= 2.6.26), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)
[08:11] <burgermann> Hi. What's the reconfigure command for dpkg?
[08:11] <Eddie> thanks pike_ i will do that now :)
[08:11] <eilker> Pf123b: mysql -u root -p
[08:11] <nothlit> !lamp | Pf123b
[08:11] <ubotu> Pf123b: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:11] <nothlit> dpkg-reconfigure
[08:11] <burgermann> oh
[08:11] <burgermann> thx
[08:12] <Pf123b> thanks, ill take a look at that
[08:13] <chutzpah> nothlit: so i take it that there are no packages for it that don't depend on libx11?
[08:13] <nothlit> !find imagemagick
[08:13] <ubotu> Found: graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat, imagemagick
[08:13] <ehazlett> is there a way to find the user of a sudo'd command?  im trying to find the username of a sudo command (not root)...
[08:14] <|McCoy|> anyone here has Hamachi working on Ubuntu? I'm facing this problem and I don't know how to solve it: http://forums.hamachi.cc/viewtopic.php?t=11191
[08:15] <kmaynard> |McCoy|, yo
[08:15] <magic_ninja> does anyone have the jre6 bin
[08:15] <goochy> I get this error when trying to execute the terminal server client http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37034/
[08:16] <|McCoy|> kmaynard: any tips?
[08:16] <kmaynard> |McCoy|, i got it running, but i havent had trouble with it
[08:16] <sgorilla80> whats a normal price for a ds3 in the us
[08:16] <pike_> ehazlett: dunno maybe  "for i in `ls /home/`; do cat /home/$i/.bash_history| grep commandname; done" but thats not a real answer..
[08:16] <finalbeta> magic_ninja, it's free to download from sun. Why do you need it?
[08:16] <nothlit> !java
[08:16] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:16] <finalbeta> nothlit, he specifically asked for 6
[08:16] <finalbeta> so no repo will help him
[08:17] <finalbeta> atleast not the ubuntu ones which are doomed to have old versions.
[08:17] <nothlit> feisty? :P
[08:19] <goochy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37034/   anybody know what this means?
[08:19] <finalbeta> nothlit, pretty sure feisty wont have it for some time ever. I'm pretty disappointed with it anyway. better GTK support my "bum". The open File dialog looks like something a kid hacked up. And most special things are still not supported. And with that Netbeans 5.5 wrote 2 of my projects broken.
[08:19] <Zambezi> How is the support for Pioneer DVD+R Duallayer-writer in Linux?
[08:19] <diezare> Guys, I have ubuntu 6.10 and I want to install kernel 686 smp. But I can't find it in apt-cache search. Any Ideas?
[08:20] <l3mr> !generic
[08:20] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[08:20] <nothlit> !hardware | Zambezi
[08:20] <ubotu> Zambezi: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:20] <pike_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[08:20] <pike_> ach sorry
[08:20] <l3mr> diezare: so just use the -generic kernel instead.
[08:21] <magic_ninja> finalbeta: sun's download servers are down...and i can't find a mirror anywhere
[08:21] <diezare> l3mr, where can I get the -generic kernel?
[08:21] <magic_ninja> finalbeta: down for maintainence that is
[08:21] <l3mr> diezare: apt-get install linux-image-(something)-generic
[08:22] <diezare> l3mr, what's the diffrence between that and the normal kernel?
[08:22] <l3mr> diezare: ubuntu folks made some performance testing and noticed that there's almost no difference between the different sub archs (i686, i686smp and so on)
[08:22] <l3mr> diezare: therefore you just have this kernel
[08:23] <l3mr> !tell diezare about generic
[08:23] <crimsun_> -generic is tuned for 586 and smp, whereas -386 is tuned for 486 and up
[08:23] <l3mr> diezare: generic has smp enabled, btw
[08:24] <diezare> l3mr, my laptop is dual core 1.8 with 512MB RAM and build-in viga. every time I start up the system it starts very slowly and when I open the menu it takes noticable time to load the images. and ideas to improve the performance?
[08:25] <l3mr> diezare: buy more ram :)
[08:25] <l3mr> !performance
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about performance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <diezare> l3mr, linux-686 - Obsoleted by: linux-generic is that the kernel ur telling me about?
[08:25] <l3mr> diezare: yes
[08:25] <diezare> l3mr, just get it and remove nothing?
[08:25] <eilker> nothlit: 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda'    is it ok ?
[08:25] <mailer> in edgy oo.o to evolution cut and paste is *sometimes* not working... looks like oo.o document font related ... reproduction of issue is erratic ... is this known?
[08:25] <mailer> #
[08:26] <l3mr> diezare: also, try disabling some effects
[08:26] <l3mr> diezare: well install the new kernel first, boot it, if everything works you can apt-get remove the old ones
[08:26] <diezare> l3mr, from where can I disable some effects. wut buzzez me is taht my laptop is new and it's that slow.
[08:26] <l3mr> diezare: did you enable compiz? also, maybe you didn't choose the proper driver for X
[08:27] <l3mr> diezare: what graphics card do you have?
[08:27] <nothlit> eilker, ABOSULUTELY NOT
[08:27] <l3mr> nothlit: he wants do destroy his data ;/
[08:27] <diezare> built-in intel accelerator 910
[08:27] <nothlit> eilker, DO NOT DO THAT or you will completely overwrite your harddrive with random data
[08:28] <nothlit> l3mr, no he wants to corrupt the mbr
[08:28] <diezare> l3mr, I didn't enable compiz
[08:28] <nothlit> eilker, you need to limit blocks
[08:28] <l3mr> diezare: good :)
[08:28] <diezare> l3mr, it's already installed while when I write cat /proc/cpuinfo it disaplayes 1 processor while before it used to display 2, i mean before in older versions of ubuntu.
[08:28] <l3mr> diezare: try 'uname -a'
[08:29] <eilker> nothlit: could you please correct it ? 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda'
 l3mr, it's already installed while when I write cat /proc/cpuinfo it disaplayes 1 processor while before it used to display 2, i mean before in older versions of ubuntu.
[08:29] <diezare> Linux diezare-laptop 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:29] <ehazlett> pike_: yeah, that's about what i came up with... ;)  grep'g ps...
[08:29] <l3mr> diezare: you are running the 386 kernel. not the generic with smp
[08:29] <diezare> l3mr, and how can I choose?
[08:30] <l3mr> diezare: you should probably change the default in /boot/grub/menu.lst, or just press esc during startup to get the grub menu
[08:30] <AlexC_> Hey,
[08:30] <AlexC_> Anyone know of a good PHP Editor?
[08:30] <nothlit> eilker i think you need bs=512 count=1 but lemme ask , because dd is a dangerous operation
[08:30] <diezare> l3mr, and when I get the grub menu will it set by default the kernel i choose everytime?
[08:31] <eilker> nothlit:  'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<dev> bs=512'
[08:31] <l3mr> diezare: no, grub menu lets you choose the kernel for 'this boot', if you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst you can change the default
[08:32] <l3mr> diezare: ok maybe my explanation is a bit confusing. grub menu = the boot menu you get when pressing ESC during the boot process.
[08:33] <nothlit> eilker, btw null = 0's and urandom = random data
[08:33] <nothlit> eilker, still waiting for response, gimme a sec
[08:33] <diezare> l3mr, i get u. i did this before in gentoo it's just it's little diffrent here, the file names.
[08:33] <eilker> nothlit: ok friend, thank you
[08:33] <diezare> l3mr, how can I choose the default kernel while editing the grub file?
[08:34] <l3mr> diezare: yeah every linux distro likes to rename some stuff to confuse people :) but of course the ubuntu / debian way is the way it's supposed to be done :)
[08:34] <nothlit> diezare, change the default to a different number
[08:34] <l3mr> diezare: there is an entry default (number)
[08:34] <l3mr> diezare: you most likely want to change it to 2
[08:34] <l3mr> instead of 0
[08:34] <marinosi> hello..i use edgy eft desktop with the generic kernel and i tried to set dma on to my disk but failed /dev/sda1:
[08:34] <marinosi>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[08:34] <marinosi>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[08:34] <nothlit> gentoo has /boot/grub/menu.lst too
[08:35] <diezare> i think it's 3 cause 2 is the recovery mode for 386
[08:35] <l3mr> diezare: hmm it starts with 0 afaik
[08:35] <marinosi> propably i have to recompile my kernel but ubuntu has only the headers in..where can i find the source package?
[08:35] <diezare> l3mr, oh, k thnx.
[08:35] <nothlit> dieman_, no its 2, it starts from 0
[08:35] <diezare> ## default num
[08:35] <diezare> # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
[08:35] <diezare> # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
[08:35] <diezare> #
[08:35] <diezare> # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
[08:35] <diezare> # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
[08:35] <diezare> # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
[08:35] <diezare> # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
[08:35] <diezare> default         0
[08:35] <diezare> Chane the default right?
[08:35] <diezare> sry guys if that's spamming
[08:35] <nothlit> !pastebine | diezare
[08:35] <nothlit> !pastebin | diezare
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <ubotu> diezare: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:36] <nothlit> it is and never ever do that again
[08:36] <l3mr> diezare: it is. don't.
[08:36] <diezare> k, sry.
[08:36] <aL\away> there is 2 taskbar in ubuntoo
[08:36] <aL\away> i deleted one of them
[08:36] <l3mr> diezare: but yes, change it to two
[08:36] <nothlit> yes, thats how gnome sets it up
[08:36] <aL\away> how do i restore it
[08:36] <aL\away> cz i cant see any running aplication
[08:37] <marinosi> /dev/sda1:
[08:37] <marinosi>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[08:37] <marinosi>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[08:37] <marinosi>  what have i got to do
[08:37] <lasse__>  aL\away thats no problem, just left click on the one you havent deleted and click create new panel or something like that
[08:37] <lasse__> aL\away, then just add the application list and so on
[08:37] <eilker> nothlit: gotta go urgently so sorry, coming back after 30 minutes
[08:38] <nothlit> eilker, make sure you have a backup, but that seems like the correct command, with the bs=512 and  count=1
[08:38] <diezare> l3mr, thnx alot first i'll check if it will work probably or not, and if it did i'll change it in the gurb configuration file. cya
[08:39] <Studiosus> hi, all! after upgrade from 2.6.17 to 2.6.18 (on debian) i got impression that my hdd is working louder. Anyone experienced something like that? How to fix it?
[08:39] <Slart> marinosi: I get the same thing here.. haven't thought about it before
[08:39] <Crazyl1nk> jrib: are you still hear?
[08:39] <aL-away> still got problem
[08:39] <aL-away> when i minimise application
[08:39] <aL-away> i dont see it again
[08:40] <lasse__> aL-away did you do what i told you?
[08:40] <marinosi> Slart, propably there is no built_in support for the chipset but where can i find the sources
[08:40] <aL-away> #yea
[08:40] <marinosi> only images :S
[08:40] <aL-away> new panel
[08:40] <mon> if the filesystem check fails at boot and asks for rootpw for repairs. then what? :)
[08:40] <aL-away> it loded new panel
[08:40] <aL-away> but say i m using firefox
[08:40] <aL-away> when i minimise it
[08:40] <aL-away> i dont see it anywhere
[08:40] <Slart> marinosi: I have no idea.. I'm googling around to see if I find anything
[08:41] <lasse__> aL-away, tthen right click on the new panel, and select Add Item
[08:41] <nothlit> aL-away, easiest way is to run this command in the terminal, rm -fr ~/.gconf && killall gnome-panel
[08:41] <mailer> for oo.o to evo cut and past bug i found this ...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1771529 (solution to earlier question)
[08:41] <nothlit> !terminal | aL-away
[08:41] <ubotu> aL-away: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:41] <marinosi> Slart, is it kernel 2.6.17.10?
[08:41] <lasse__> nothlit, thats not right
[08:41] <lasse__> nothlit, he has deleted his second panel...
[08:41] <cbx33> anyone have experience of advanced virtual networks in vmware?
[08:41] <Slart> marinosi: Linux Comp02 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP
[08:41] <nothlit> lasse__, yeah, so restart the gconf entries
[08:42] <jengc0il> nothlit: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37040/
[08:42] <marinosi> Slart, nice ..
[08:42] <Slart> marinosi: a fresh install of ubuntu 6.10
[08:42] <Crazyl1nk> does anyone have EXP with Teamspeak?
[08:42] <Slart> Crazyl1nk: EXP?
[08:42] <cbx33> Crazyl1nk, yup
[08:42] <jengc0il> nothlit: do any step to run 2 process in 1 time
[08:42] <lasse__> nothlit, but they have been saved havent they?
[08:42] <nothlit> lasse__,thats why you wipe them
[08:42] <nothlit> jengc0il, ps aux | grep apt
[08:43] <lasse__> nothlit, sorry i was wrong, you are right and ill shut up
[08:43] <diezare> l3
[08:43] <Slart> Crazyl1nk: EXP = experience?.. as in.. has someone got teamspeak working alright?
[08:43] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: how much do you know? im trying to run a server from my computer for a short time, from what i know the server is up, im trying to get into it
[08:43] <cbx33> ok
[08:43] <Crazyl1nk> slart: yes
[08:43] <cbx33> what's the problem
[08:43] <diezare> guys, when I open the menu for the first time after booting the system the images loading time is noticable and long. and ideas about hwo can I solve this problem?
[08:43] <cbx33> I've had it working fine
[08:43] <Slart> Crazyl1nk: there's a default password in a log somewhere
[08:43] <dhf> Its al i dont see nothin
[08:43] <towsonu2003> I compiled a new kernel (2.6.19.1) and now, using bcm43xx, iwscan gives me "no scan results"... do you know why this might be? this doesn't happen with ubuntu's kernel.
[08:43] <eneska> czy jest polski kana ?
[08:44] <dhf> i cant see those xchat client
[08:44] <dhf> wwith al-away
[08:44] <dhf> al\away
[08:44] <nothlit> jengc0il, its probably no big deal, you just need to wait for it to finish, if after a while it still hasn't freed up you can do sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:44] <dhf> only taskbar i see is
[08:44] <diezare> guys, when I open the menu for the first time after booting the system the images loading time is noticable and long. and ideas about hwo can I solve this problem?
[08:44] <dhf> application place system
[08:44] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: im not sure what to do but im reading the Fourms and this guy says you run a address in your browser to log into it with admin password, how do i do so?
[08:44] <dhf> that bar
[08:44] <eneska> i search polish ubuntu canal
[08:44] <crimsun_> towsonu2003: which Ubuntu kernel?
[08:44] <mrabbit> hey, torrent downloads on ubuntu are really slow, and torrents work fine on windows and other distros, please help
[08:44] <pike_> diezare: there's always xubuntu or fluxbox
[08:44] <jengc0il> nothlit: yup 1 process update
[08:44] <cbx33> Crazyl1nk, hmm.....yes there is a web client
[08:44] <lasse__> dhf are you aL-away?
[08:44] <Slart> Crazyl1nk: teamspeak has a web interface for administration... you have to find out the correct port and password
[08:45] <cbx33> yes
[08:45] <jengc0il> nothlit: so i how could i run install in same time
[08:45] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: how do i do so?
[08:45] <cbx33> Slart, ++
[08:45] <towsonu2003> crimsun_, dapper uptodate kernel has no problems with bcm43xx
[08:45] <diezare> pike_, ya but my laptop is new, dual core 1.8 and 512MB RAM. lol why should i use these?
[08:45] <cbx33> check the docs
[08:45] <nothlit> jengc0il, yeah just wait for it, its probably the automatic update, or look around and see if you left any open
[08:45] <cbx33> it is all in there
[08:45] <dhf> yea
[08:45] <dhf> i m
[08:45] <crimsun_> towsonu2003: it's nicely patched up.
[08:45] <nothlit> jengc0il, you just need to wait, it should finish soon
[08:45] <jengc0il> nothlit: tq
[08:45] <dhf> i cant get in to that client
[08:45] <nothlit> jengc0il, its probably no big deal, you just need to wait for it to finish, if after a while it still hasn't freed up you can do sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:45] <dhf> like i said
[08:45] <dhf> when i minimise
[08:45] <lasse__> then run the command nothlit told you to run. you know how to open a terminal dont you?
[08:45] <dhf> it vanishes
[08:45] <diezare> pike_, and the applications open fast, everything is great except the menu images.
[08:45] <pike_> diezare: i use them because i dont think half my system resources shoul be taken up by my desktop environment.  i like to save stuff like that for applications
[08:45] <towsonu2003> crimsun_, how can I solve this on a compiled kernel though?
[08:46] <pike_> diezare: ah
[08:46] <crimsun_> towsonu2003: track upstream
[08:46] <lasse__> dhf i see your problem. did you try the command nothlit told you to run?
[08:46] <jengc0il> thnkz guy
[08:46] <towsonu2003> crimsun_, okay thanks :)
[08:46] <dhf> no
[08:46] <dhf> which command
[08:46] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: do you knhowwhere? im looking at the server.log and the admin passwords, but i dont know how to get the site up, im looking at it now they say to try http://yourservernameorIPhere.com:14534
[08:46] <Slart> Crazyl1nk: there is a log file somewhere (check the docs) created when you installed teamspeak.. in it is the port and default admin password
[08:46] <mrabbit> please help, im going out of my mind with the slow torrents
[08:46] <nothlit> dhf, i would also recommend logging out and back in afterwards
[08:46] <ragnar_123> hey guys!
[08:46] <ragnar_123> I've had samba running on my server (tiny server at home) and it just simply did kinda stop working. Anyone in here with a suggestion?
[08:46] <nothlit> aL-away, easiest way is to run this command in the terminal, rm -fr ~/.gconf && killall gnome-panel
[08:46] <diezare> pike_, I admire fluxbox. I use it on my PC but i use gnome on my lap cause sometimes my brother needs it or any other person in the family who wont be able to use fluxbox.
[08:46] <nothlit> !terminal | aL-away
[08:46] <ubotu> aL-away: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:46] <pike_> diezare: if you rm -fr ~/.g*  and alt-ctrl-bkspace does it still do it?
[08:47] <cbx33> Crazyl1nk, what does that give you?
[08:47] <nothlit> ragnar_123, sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:47] <dhf> nothlit,
[08:47] <dhf> i tried that
[08:47] <ragnar_123> nothilt: will try
[08:47] <dhf> still when i minimised
[08:47] <dhf> the application
[08:47] <dhf> it goes
[08:48] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: nothing, im not 100% sure what to punch into this address
[08:48] <lasse__> dhf then write killall gnome-panel in your terminal
[08:48] <cbx33> well what' sthe ip of the server
[08:48] <diezare> pike_, sorry I tried wut u said so iwas logged out.
[08:48] <dhf> when i installed ubuntoo it had 2 panel
[08:48] <dhf> one on top
[08:48] <tommyw> I have a samba problem I cant seem to find a solution for on the forums:  I can map successfully with the command line to a specific folder on the share but cannot successfully bring up the share in nautilus. I get the message: "colder contents could not be displayed...".
[08:48] <cbx33> just do
[08:48] <mrabbit> how can i permanently open a port in ubuntu
[08:48] <dhf> one at the bottom
[08:48] <jokoon> what means Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic ? I was told several times on this channel to install kernel for K7 architecture ...
[08:48] <dhf> i deleted the one in the bottom
[08:48] <lasse__> dhf then write killall gnome-panel in your terminal
[08:48] <diezare> pike_, it's alittle faster. But still what not I think itshould be.
[08:48] <cbx33> http://123.123.123.123:14534/
[08:48] <dhf> now when i minimise
[08:48] <nothlit> dhf, or you can right click on the bar, add applet, and add application list
[08:48] <nothlit> dhf, or you can right click on the bar, add applet, and add application list
[08:48] <diezare> pike_, but it's alot faster
[08:48] <gumpo> Whats the command that lets me manually configure my video settings? (I know my card and monitor are capable of a lot more then what i can pick from in the screen resolution menu.)
[08:48] <ragnar_123> nothilt: nothing did happen.. still same thing...
[08:49] <diezare> pike_, what was the command u said rm something?
[08:49] <nothlit> mrabbit, if you didn't add , its already open whenever a program wants it
[08:49] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: i dont know would it be the 4 digit number the terminal gave me while running it? or my IP?
[08:49] <lasse__> no, dhf listen to us here. write killall gnome-panel in your terminal
[08:49] <cbx33> the ip of the server
[08:49] <cbx33> goto the server machien and type ifconfig on the terminal
[08:49] <mrabbit> except my torrent go slowly, and my router is set up fine, they go fast on other distros
[08:49] <[A] ndy80> hi
[08:49] <pike_> diezare: rm -fr  == remove force recursively(directories) all files begining with .g
[08:49] <nothlit> ragnar_123, it could be the windows election mechanism, you could try restarting the computer<S>
[08:49] <cbx33> or on the local server machine just do
[08:49] <dhf> i did
[08:49] <cbx33> http://localhost:14534/
[08:50] <cbx33> or whatever the port number is
[08:50] <mrabbit> ive heard of torrent problems on ubuntu, but no solutions are available
[08:50] <dhf> and what it done is refreshed the task bar i have
[08:50] <dhf> but still
[08:50] <diezare> what does that do?
[08:50] <dhf> like i minimised terminal now
[08:50] <dhf> and its gone again
[08:50] <[A] ndy80> I've a strange problem: every time I login into my ubuntu desktop (I'm using Edgy) Skype crashes. If I launch it again it doesn't crash. What could it be the problem?
[08:50] <dhf> task bar 1 is theer
[08:50] <nothlit> dhf, or you can right click on the bar, add applet, and add application list
[08:50] <dhf> but no ruunning application
[08:50] <nothlit> dhf, or you can right click on the bar, add applet, and add application list
[08:50] <lasse__> ok, then write the command nothlit told you to, then write killall gnome-anel
[08:50] <Crazyl1nk> could 6645 be it?
[08:50] <lasse__> *panel
[08:51] <Crazyl1nk> 6654***
[08:51] <diezare> pike_, what does rm -fr do?
[08:51] <ragnar_123> nothilt: I dont sit on a windows machine!!! are you crazy?...but it kinda like stop working after I installed fluxbox on the machine..
[08:51] <nothlit> rm -fr removes things recursively (into directories) and without complaint
[08:51] <dhf> its still now workin guys
[08:51] <pike_> diezare: rm = remove   so it removes whole directories
[08:51] <diezare> pike_, which directories while it remove?
[08:52] <lasse__> dhf what panels do you have now? top or bottom or both?
[08:52] <mrabbit> please help me get my torrents going as fast as they should, speeds hang around 15kb/s when they are capable of far more
[08:52] <pike_> diezare: whatever you specify .  we told it anything begining with .g in your home directory.  your gnome config files
[08:52] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: could 6654 be it?
[08:52] <cbx33> hmmm
[08:52] <cbx33> that may actually be the teamspeack protocal port
[08:52] <dhf> i have one of them
[08:53] <dhf> top
[08:53] <dhf> where it says
[08:53] <dhf> application
[08:53] <diezare> pike_, so does this mean that it will delete my themes?
[08:53] <pike_> diezare: if you ls -a youll see alot of files begining with a . that are normally hidden
[08:53] <dhf> system
[08:53] <nothlit> dhf, are you sure you added the windows list?
[08:53] <dhf> place
[08:53] <lasse__> right dhf enough
[08:53] <nothlit> dhf, MAKE SURE you have added the windows list in applets
[08:53] <pike_> diezare: shouldnt. themes should be stored elsewhere in /usr
[08:53] <lasse__> dhf, listen to me and just me now. dont get confused here
[08:53] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: its the number i got from the terminal right after running the command to start up the server
[08:53] <nothlit> dhf, to add applets, right click the toolbar and select applets
[08:53] <dhf> lasse_
[08:53] <dhf> thank you so much
[08:53] <dhf> its workin now
[08:54] <diezare> pike_, what do the config files of gnome got which I should delete?
[08:54] <cbx33> Crazyl1nk, yeh that's not your ip
[08:54] <lasse__> dhf, good
[08:54] <nothlit> lasse__, lol which solution did he use?
[08:54] <dhf> problem no 2
[08:54] <cbx33> load the terminal window on the server
[08:54] <cbx33> and run ifconfig
[08:54] <ivx> hey i just updated ubuntu and now mysql server won't work, i get a fail when i try to start it, it says exit status 1, anyone know how to fix this
[08:54] <lasse__> nothlit no idea
[08:54] <cbx33> that will givey ou the ip of the server
[08:54] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: i know my IP
[08:54] <Orangekid13> I just got VLC media player because it knows how to play mpeg filetypes, but I don't know how to make firefox use it... I keep just getting the message from totem about it not being able to play it
[08:54] <pike_> diezare: anytime you have a problem with an app you can delete its .config file or directory to restore it to a default state
[08:54] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: but that or my router IP wont help, the webpage window just keeps loading but doesnt run
[08:55] <diezare> pike_, k thnx alot. i'll give it a shot. and i'll restart then tell u.
[08:55] <pike_> er only in your home directory dont do that in /etc :)
[08:55] <cbx33> firewalls?
[08:55] <Orangekid13> and firefox continues to open new windows when i have it supposed to open tabs
[08:55] <nothlit> Orangekid13, you will need to remove totem-mozilla and install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[08:55] <lasse__> Orangekid13: apt-cache search vlc mozilla plugin     and install that one
[08:55] <nothlit> !synaptic | Orangekid13
[08:55] <ubotu> Orangekid13: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:55] <mike1980> hi guys what the command to find my internal IP i need it for bind?
[08:55] <aL> ok broblem no 2
[08:55] <nothlit> lasse__, you have to make sure you remove totem-mozilla
[08:55] <aL> i cant log in to an irc server
[08:55] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: possible im not sure if my router has one but its possible, give me a second to log into my router
[08:55] <aL> it says i might misstype name
[08:55] <nothlit> lasse__, there can't be any conflicting video plugins
[08:55] <Slart> mike1980: try ifconfig
[08:55] <lasse__> nothlit, i see
[08:56] <aL> but i m sure i didnt misstype
[08:56] <lasse__> aL, you are on a irc server now...?
[08:56] <mike1980> Slart: that only gives me 127.0.0.1
[08:56] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: wait wait im into the site admin log in page sorry i guess it just takes a while to load
[08:56] <aL> yea
[08:56] <aL> i m
[08:56] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: do i log into super admin or admin?
[08:56] <Slart> mike1980: only localhost there? no eth0, eth1 etc?
[08:57] <aL> * Looking up irc.banglacafe.com
[08:57] <aL> * Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[08:57] <cbx33> Crazyl1nk, admin I think
[08:57] <cbx33> I can't remember
[08:57] <aL> that is curect server
[08:57] <cbx33> read the docs I'm afraid
[08:57] <Crazyl1nk> alright one second
[08:57] <aL> correct*
[08:58] <mike1980> Slart: yep and mask
[08:58] <mike1980> but no 192.X.X.X
[08:58] <lasse__> aL, i dont know if this is the right place to ask this. try pinging it
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> mike1980: how many devices do you see in ifconfig?
[08:59] <aL> with ip address it works
[08:59] <aL> hmm
[08:59] <aL> thanks you so much
[08:59] <aL> for ur help
[08:59] <jokoon> Cool ! when I manually move quicklaunch icons, they just become icons that launch nothing ! Yipee
[08:59] <Slart> mike1980: hmm, weird... to bad I have to go now.. it should turn up there
[09:00] <diezare> pike_, it's still slow :(
[09:00] <Slart> mike1980: but as I said.. I have to run..  hope someone else can help you
[09:00] <mike1980> fyrestrtr: it's not showing any I am on ubuntu server
[09:00] <djembe> anyone have luck with making bluetooth (gnome-bluetooth) work correctly?
[09:00] <mike1980> Slart: ok thanks man
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> you network is running, right?
[09:00] <aL> lasse_
[09:01] <mike1980> fyrestrtr: woop I am a idiot it's not plug in yet lol
[09:01] <aL> a nice client to irc gui based
[09:01] <aL> xchat aint that good
[09:01] <mike1980> fyrestrtr: ok thanks
[09:01] <aL> what else can i run with gnome
[09:01] <pike_> diezare: dunno what to tell you is it just rendering stuff thats slow? apps run fine but loading anything graphically slow?
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> aL: get the proper xchat, not the xchat-gnome.
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> !info xchat
[09:01] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[09:01] <aL> i have proper xchat
[09:02] <mrabbit> please help, the torrents are so slow
[09:02] <diezare> pike_, ya by the way my video card is built-in
[09:02] <aL> XChat 2.6.6
[09:02] <aL> A multiplatform IRC Client
[09:02] <aL> Linux 2.6.17-10-generic [i686/2.19GHz] 
[09:02] <aL> Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango
[09:02] <aL> Compiled: Oct  2 2006
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> aL: oh. well then I don't know what to tell you. I use irssi :)
[09:02] <lasse__> aLdont do that
[09:02] <pike_> diezare: intel graphics?
[09:02] <lasse__> aL, what dont you like about xchat... its nice!
[09:02] <diezare> pike_, ya
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: make sure your ports are properly configured.
[09:02] <marinosi> how can i recompile the  kernel for ubuntu desktop while there are only the headers????
[09:02] <Orangekid13> i couldn't tell what it is people were telling me to do to to get vlc media player to work in firefox... aka i need to kill totem
[09:02] <aL> the layout i guess
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: why do you want to recompile it?
[09:03] <aL> i could use theme
[09:03] <aL> for that
[09:03] <Orangekid13> i need noob directions
[09:03] <aL> couldnt i
[09:03] <mrabbit> what u mean, ubuntu auto opens right? my router is fine as torrents work fine on other distros
[09:03] <pike_> diezare: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver  do you get a vesa or i810?
[09:03] <djembe> anyone know anything about gnome-bluetooth?
[09:03] <aL> i just started to use linux
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> pike_: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:03] <aL> very much of a window person
[09:03] <marinosi> fyrestrtr, i cannot put the dma support on for one of my disks and i assume there is no support to the kernel
[09:03] <lasse__> Orangekid13, sudo apt-get remove mozilla-plugin-totem
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: what kind of disk is it?
[09:03] <lasse__> Orangekid13, sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[09:04] <mrabbit> fyrestrtr:i know my router is set fine as torrents are fine on other distros
[09:04] <diezare> pike_, i get i810
[09:04] <marinosi> fyrestrtr, hard disk drive
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: I meant IDE, SATA, SCSI etc.
[09:04] <marinosi> fyrestrtr, sata
[09:04] <marinosi> fyrestrtr, /dev/sda1
[09:04] <Crazyl1nk> cbx33: it will not let me log into the admin page, what is the normal ADMIN name is it like admin, or {admin} or administation?
[09:04] <cbx33> I really can't remember
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: dma is only effective on IDE disks, on SATA its not that great (as in, sometimes it doesn't even work).
[09:05] <cbx33> and unfirtunately I'm busy hacking up ldm
[09:05] <cbx33> or I'd beable to look for you
[09:05] <Crazyl1nk> np ill try some trial and error.
[09:05] <cbx33> it will be documented
[09:05] <lasse__> Crazyllnk try to google it, it should show up
[09:05] <marinosi> fyrestrtr, but when i download something the laptop is burning...i cannot even fireup an xterm
[09:05] <pike_> diezare: i dont know man.  recommend installing xubuntu.  it wont take up much space and you can see which you like best
[09:05] <lontra> can i apt-get flashplugin 9 from the ubuntus repos?
[09:05] <diezare> pike_, ok thanks alot for your help
[09:06] <Stormx2> Yo. Have a few wireless questions here. In networking, what is meant by ESSID? How do I find this? My network is called "fatfreddy", is this of use? Secondly I'm using a USB dongle. Do I need any special steps?
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: what? what do you mean by that?
[09:06] <mrabbit> please help me somebody, this is driving me insane
[09:06] <lontra> Stormx2: yes fatfreddy is the ESSID
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: fatfreddy is the ESSID
[09:06] <Stormx2> Okay
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep DMA will tell you what modes your drive supports, if any.
[09:07] <shurik_v> can I use RIP MD5 authentication in guagga?
[09:07] <marinosi> fyrestrtr, when i download something and i have i/o operations , using wmii i try to open an xterm and the prompt does about 20 sec to show up
[09:07] <lontra> !flash
[09:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: how much ram do you have on the system, and what kind of video card?
[09:08] <nothlit> I have x11vnc processes that incorrectly terminated, and now they want to use higher ports. Is there someway to flush the ports/get back control?
[09:08] <dv_> hmm
[09:08] <Orangekid13> ok now instead of an error when trying to play video in firefox i get a black screen with small white letters in the middle reading " (no video) "
[09:08] <dv_> say,
[09:08] <Hausberg> I am having a problem with my grub - everytime there is an update the devices are changed to something I don't want
[09:08] <lasse__> orangekid13, nice
[09:08] <marinosi> it is a laptop dell intel core 2 duo t7200 ,nvidia 7400 and 1G ram
[09:08] <dv_> it is planned to use esd for feisty, or will it be dropped in favor of dmix?
[09:08] <Orangekid13> what do i do
[09:08] <Stormx2> Right. Still no luck...
[09:08] <Hausberg> where is the default menu.lst?
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[09:08] <mrabbit> does anybody know a torrent downloader that downloads at decent speeds on ubuntu 6.10
[09:08] <marinosi> fyrestrtr, marinosi@lucifer:~$ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda |grep -i dma
[09:09] <marinosi>         DMA: sdma0 sdma1 sdma2 mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
[09:09] <marinosi> fyrestrtr, yeap
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: dma is already on then.
[09:09] <Orangekid13> anyone?
[09:09] <Orangekid13> trying to watch video in firefox
[09:09] <marinosi> fyrestrtr, what could be wrong then?
[09:09] <lasse__> orangekid13, sudo apt-get remove mozilla-plugin-vlc  then   sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-totem
[09:09] <Orangekid13> totem doesn't work
[09:09] <Orangekid13> it doesn't have the codecs
[09:09] <lasse__> orangekid13, then follow the guide at www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: I don't know, try /etc/init.d/hdparm restart
[09:10] <lasse__> orangekid13, okay?
[09:10] <lontra> Orangekid13: try the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[09:10] <lontra> it works great
[09:10] <marinosi> i did it ...no result ...muuuuch delay
[09:10] <Lam_> i suggestions for a program that can do music format conversions.
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: is your computer under any load?
[09:11] <marinosi> no nothing
[09:11] <lasse__> mrabbit: they all do, try azureus, but this is probably a port/connection/settingsintheclient problem, not a ubuntu problem
[09:11] <Crazyl1nk> Slart: are you still here?
[09:11] <mrabbit> Lam_:soundKonverter
[09:11] <Lam_> mrabbit: thanks :)
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> marinosi: you are just getting slow disk activity?
[09:11] <Hausberg> where does synaptic get the menu.lst for grub after update?????
[09:11] <mrabbit> i try azureus, my router ports are set fine, and azureus is set just as on suse, which worked fine
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> Hausberg: read the comments in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:12] <shurik_v> does anyone use quagga server?
[09:12] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay, run that by me again, how do I uninstall a driver?
[09:12] <marinosi> hmmm, no i supposed that dma was off because i start an xterm and it starts after 10-20 sec and it requests much cpu
[09:12] <lasse__> mrabbit there is no reason why it shouldnt work on ubuntu
[09:12] <mrabbit> therefore it is ubuntu problem, as many complain about this, and everyone blaims there correctly configured routers and clients
[09:12] <Crazyl1nk> slart: do you mind helping me?
[09:12] <ToHellWithGA> my roommate has an nvidia GeForce2 MX card and would like to run a better driver than VESA.  What driver should he use?
[09:13] <dv_> gf2mx.. hm
[09:13] <lasse__> mrabbit check that your ports are forwarded to the right IP
[09:13] <dv_> the nv driver should do I guess
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: I don't know, never faced that problem on my laptop (or desktop)
[09:13] <dv_> or older CS drivers,
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> ToHellWithGA: the 'nv' driver.
[09:13] <dv_> but the newest ones drop gf2 support
[09:13] <mrabbit> lasse__:I have my router set to DMZ for my ip, and ubuntu is supposed to open ports that apps try to use
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: ubuntu doesn't open ports by itself.
[09:14] <lasse__> mrabbit, correcct
[09:14] <lasse__> ion
[09:14] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I uninstall madwifi?
[09:14] <lasse__> mrabbit; wow laggy
[09:14] <mrabbit> is there any way to make a port open all the time?
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: are you using a firewall?
[09:14] <mrabbit> what?
[09:15] <mrabbit> errr, i dont think so
[09:15] <mrabbit> new to ubuntu :p
[09:15] <lasse__> fyrestrtr,then you arent :)
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> lasse__: I'm not what?
[09:15] <lasse__> fyrestrtr; oops wrong person
[09:15] <lasse__> mrabbit, then you arent :)
[09:16] <mrabbit> well, is there are way to open a port permanantly/
[09:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I uninstall?
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: ports aren't gates that you open and shut. You have to have something (a program) listening on a port for it to open.
[09:16] <ragnar_123> Spaghetti_Knife: how did you install?
[09:16] <lontra> mrabbit: you can open a port by opening it on your router
[09:17] <lasse__> mrabbit try the netstat command
[09:17] <mrabbit> fyrestrtr:wrong, i opened ports in yast on suse nefore
[09:17] <Spaghetti_Knife> I svn'd it, then made it and make installed it.
[09:17] <ragnar_123> Spaghetti_Knife: or what to uninstakk?
[09:17] <mrabbit> lontra:ive already said my router is fine
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: no, you didn't.
[09:17] <Spaghetti_Knife> madwifi.
[09:17] <Orangekid13> I still get the black screen with the " (no video) " with mplayer and the mozilla plugin
[09:17] <lontra> mrabbit: ok...then set it with the program you want to use
[09:17] <mrabbit> didnt wat?
[09:17] <lontra> to the port you've open
[09:17] <lontra> ed
[09:17] <mrabbit> lontra:prog is set, router is set, still slow downloads
[09:17] <lontra> if you opened 6885 tell azureus to listen to that port
[09:17] <lasse__> Orangekid13, what happens when you try to download a video and run it with mplayyer?
[09:18] <mrabbit> IVE DONE THAT!
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: could be a bad torrent, have you ever thought of that possibility?
[09:18] <lontra> mrabbit: maybe others aren't
[09:18] <lontra> mrabbit: and chill out
[09:18] <lasse__> orangekid13: as a stand alone player
[09:18] <mrabbit> it downloads much faster on other distros
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: where did you open it?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: *how* did you open it?
[09:18] <lasse__> mrabbit uses DMZ that should do it
[09:18] <mrabbit> so torrent is fine, opened via azureus open option
[09:18] <lontra> mrabbit: this is definitely not an ubuntu issue
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: is azureus giving you the green smiley face?
[09:19] <LuisMendes> hello, please answer a small question: I'm using fglrx drivers for ATI Radeon 9600XT. Can I use AIGLX and Beryl? The driver is working, but "composite" is not supported (according to the Ubuntu wiki)
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> LuisMendes: no, you must use XGL.
[09:19] <lasse__> LuisMendes youll have to use XGL
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> LuisMendes: you can use beryl with xgl.
[09:19] <lasse__> ah too slow
[09:19] <mrabbit> lontra:hmm, weird logic, works fine in other distros so 'it cant be an ubuntu issue'
[09:19] <JanK> just a short off topic question (sorry): is "he correctly recognises that..." wrong?
[09:19] <majestik> how can i transform a 128kbps mp3 to a 56 kbps mp3?
[09:19] <mrabbit> fyrestrtr:yes
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: then its not a problem with the ports, or ubuntu. You are just on a slow seeder.
[09:20] <FunnyMan3595> Okay, trying to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy here, through the update-manager.  It lost a couple packages somewhere in the middle of installing (not downloading) because it'd run out of disk space.  I cleared a bunch up, but when it hit the end, the install failed.  What's the best way to try and repair it?  The system's still up and running.
[09:20] <lontra> mrabbit: if it's green then it's the others seeding  and leaching
[09:20] <lontra> mrabbit: it's not ubuntu's fault...again
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: just restart the install process.
[09:20] <JanK> majestik: search for "ffmpeg"
[09:20] <mrabbit> fyrestrtr:except that its been slow all day, and many people complain of slow dloads in ubuntu, but ill try another torrent to humour yiu
[09:20] <mrabbit> *you
[09:20] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Okay, that's what I figured, but I also thought I should come check, just in case.  :)
[09:21] <Orangekid13> when i try to play standalone i get "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device."
[09:21] <Orangekid13> guess this means i get to figure out how to use the terminal to install the binary drivers for my nvidia card
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: if the icon is green in azureus, that means that the problem is not with the network or the operating system. There is nothing in the ubuntu installation that will prevent you from downloading torrents.
[09:22] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: It's not liking that...
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: error?
[09:22] <lasse__> orangekid13, sounds like a driver problem yeah
[09:22] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: At the CL it's complaining about dbus (could not initiate, could not send inhibit signal, did not get reply)
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: ah yes, the lovely dbus.
[09:23] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: In the gui part, it lists two components to be upgraded, but they're greyed out and the top still says it's up-to-date.
[09:23] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: And the install button is also greyed out.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: what apps?
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: apps = components.
[09:23] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: libggi2, mplayer
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: logout of gnome, and log back in, try it again.
[09:24] <FunnyMan3595> Okay...  Here's hoping it'll log back in...
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: don't restart the computer.
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595:  if it doesn't THEN restart the PC. Those two things aren't critical.
[09:24] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Right.
[09:25] <ToHellWithGA> fyrestrtr: thanks for that.  his video performance is mui bueno now. :)
[09:26] <mrabbit> the NAT light keeps going grey, but the NAT test says OK for the port ive set in config
[09:26] <vijaymateti_> hello after installing the 64 bit AMD version of edgy eft my boot screen wnet black and white can any one explain why its so??
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: that's not a ubuntu problem then :)
[09:27] <Orangekid13> the how-to for the driver tells me to do stuff that isn't there... i go into the synaptic packager manager, click settings > repositories, then it thinks a "Edit repository" dialog comes up for me to click add, but i just get "software sources" and no add button... there's an add button under the "third party" tab, but that has "APT line" and nothing about a "restricted copyright" checkbox that i'm supposed to check
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: plenty of natting help at the azureus website and at portforward.com
[09:27] <Orangekid13> (this is the nvidia driver)
[09:27] <ivx> hey i am trying to get mysql working but i always get the error that package mysql-server-5.0 in not configured yet, how do i fix this
[09:27] <vijaymateti_> hey??
[09:27] <majestik> so i have ffmpeg, and lame, how do i convert a 128kbps mp3 to a 56kbps mp3?
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> ivx: try sudo dpkg-configure mysql-server-5.0
[09:28] <mrabbit> fyrestrtr:my router is set to dmz on my ip, azureus is fine on other distros, and it is configured exactly the same
[09:28] <FunnyMan3595> Well, the system decided to hang on logout.
[09:29] <Detox_away> can I get an opinion on which iso to get?
[09:29] <FunnyMan3595> The new kernel wouldn't boot, which is probably because (as I was informed on startup) /boot is 100% full.
[09:29] <mrabbit> fyrestrtr:and it cant be a slow seeder, because i am connected to 7 seeders
[09:29] <Aldoliel> Detox_away, if you like
[09:29] <Strang3> Hello
[09:29] <sharperguy> lontra, with Seveas' repo enabled you can
[09:29] <sharperguy> ! Seveas
[09:29] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:29] <ivx> fyrestrtr: it says sudo: dpkg-configure: command not found
[09:29] <Detox_away> I have a  Dell Poweredge 1950 with two Xenon 3ghz cpu's  two HD's with raid
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: please, stop saying 'its fine on other distros'.
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> ivx: sorry, dpkg-reconfigure
[09:30] <Detox_away> the hd's are mirrored
[09:30] <mrabbit> fyrestrtr:why, its true
[09:30] <FunnyMan3595> Old kernel brought up a new gooey, but the mouse cursor is borked on one of the two monitors.
[09:30] <Infeliz> lol
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: then switch back :)
[09:30] <Detox_away> [   ]  ubuntu-6.10-server-amd64.iso     ??
[09:30] <vijaymateti_> yes
[09:30] <ivx> fyrestrtr it says: it is broken or not fully installed,
[09:31] <mrabbit> fyrestrtr:no, because ubuntu beats the other distros ive tried in many other ways, such as updates working properly
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> ivx: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.0
[09:31] <Detox_away> yes to me?
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: I can assure you, the problem is not with ubuntu -- as there is no problem on my laptop downloading torrents using azureus.
[09:32] <Aldoliel> Detox_away, if they're 64bit CPU's that might be a good choice, some apps aren't availible for 64bit though
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> mrabbit: if there was, it would be all over launchpad and probably in the /topic of this channel, as there are a lot of torrent users.
[09:32] <Detox_away> all I will be using is servoy , and sybase
[09:32] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Could still be an incompatibility between Ubuntu and his particular hardware setup.
[09:32] <Detox_away> no other except maybe text editor and term
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> I doubt that has anything to do with torrents being slow.
[09:33] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: No idea WHY, but it's possible.
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> a hardware problem would not manifest itself in ONE application.
[09:33] <Detox_away> and I understand it sees raid ok?
[09:33] <ivx> fyrestrtr, it said the same thing when trying to install, not configured, but it also said in the begining part where 1 reinstalled that 2 not fully installed, how do i know what 2
[09:33] <Detox_away> if this is the wrong place to ask let em know
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> it would crop up everywhere (just ask me -- I have the problem with my intel wifi because of a bug in the firmware).
[09:33] <Aldoliel> Detox_away,  If they're compiled for 64bit, go for it. Raid should be fine
[09:33] <Detox_away> good
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> ivx: have you tried removing it?
[09:34] <Detox_away> thanks
[09:34] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Okay, I'm getting the exact same symptom from update-manager after the reboot.
[09:34] <Aldoliel> No worries
[09:34] <ivx> fyrestrtr, i'll try that again, is it sudo apt-remove or what?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> ivx: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.0
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> heh, cool -- in my flight sim game, its showing the aurora borealis.
[09:35] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Good idea or bad to try and run updates with apt-get, since the gui's not working?
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: you aren't on edgy yet, right?
[09:36] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Yes and no.  Like I said, the gui changed on startup, even with the old kernel.
[09:36] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: So I think I'm in an inconsistent halfway state.
[09:36] <WizCraker> is there anything I need to do in order to connect to mysql remotely?  I'm trying to use the free mysql tools but unable to get a connection.
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: lsb_release -a
[09:37] <FunnyMan3595> codename edgy
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> WizCraker: 1) make sure mysql is listening on your public IP address, not localhost 2) add a user with access rights from the remote ip in mysql.
[09:37] <jb0nd38372> ivx: do you have encryption turned on in other distro's?  and possible not in ubuntu?  my isp is actually slower with encryption off... in windows I was using Utorrent, with enc off it was much slower at seeding and downloading, while turned on, with good seeders I got near 100% isp speeds
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:37] <ivx> fyrestrtr, i removed it and installed again, and when it tried to start it it says fail, invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed
[09:38] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: *nods*  Rightyo
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> ivx: anything in the logs? this is strange.
[09:38] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Looks like that's pulling those two packages.
[09:38] <ivx> fyrestrtr what is the path of the log i should look at, it was all fine untill i updated
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> ivx: updated what?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: might be a good time (after its done) to enable multiverse/universe
[09:39] <ivx> fyrestrtr, the ubuntu updates, kernel headers, ect. and i tried to boot the old one, and it isn't showing up in grub
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: and run apt-get update and apt-get distupgrade again.
[09:39] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Hmm, on a second check, it says "The followign packages have been kept back"
[09:39] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: And lists the two again.
[09:40] <wildchild> hello there how can I know what hardware do I have on my computer?
[09:40] <orangefly> i am using webmin to configure my server, i give write permissions but still can't write to share....any idea why....???....
[09:40] <wildchild> is there any app, or it exists simple command for this?
[09:40] <LuisMendes> which should I use: compiz or beryl?
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: okay, remove them both and reinstall them from the edgy repos (enable multiverse/universe first)
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> wildchild: lshq
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> wildchild: lshw
[09:41] <jb0nd38372> LuisMendes: Personally beryl works good for me... i'm running 0.1.3 and it's fairly stable
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> LuisMendes: compiz for (relative) stability beryl for better eye candy.
[09:41] <jlmb> I need to set up a RAID1 on my existing ubuntu server. Is it possible to configure it without having to reinstall?
[09:41] <orangefly> is edgy that much better than dapper....???...
[09:41] <wildchild> fyrestrtr: thx
[09:42] <LuisMendes> fyrestrtr, jb0nd38372: thank you!
[09:42] <LuisMendes> I'll choose Beryl then
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> orangefly: webmin is not supported under debian/ubuntu.
[09:42] <jb0nd38372> LuisMendes: hehe conflicting answers never help.. but its all dependant on your hardware and how  you use it
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> LuisMendes: if your video card has great drivers, then it doesn't matter which you choose.
[09:43] <orangefly> the webmin site says it is....
, well I want to check the eye candy, and I have an ATI radeon 9600XT
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> !webmin
[09:43] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> orangefly: listen to the all-mighty ubotu
[09:43] <orangefly> anything similar that work....???....
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> orangefly: personally, I only use ssh to admin my servers.
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> orangefly: so I don't know of any alternatives, others might.
[09:44] <jb0nd38372> LuisMendes: eek... I have heard from reading here that ati support is buggy for cards that dont use the radeion driver, but use the ... fyrestrtr knows the answer to that... Nvidia support is good.. i'm not good with ati though, sorry
[09:44] <orangefly> is edgy that much better than dapper....???...
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> orangefly: if you like updated packages, then yes. If you want long term support and stability, then you should stick with dapper.
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> orangefly: I run dapper on my server, and edgy on my laptop.
[09:45] <banjooie> Alright, does anyone have like, a checklist of things I should look for if my sound doesn't work.
[09:45] <orangefly> i meant for a server....
, for using Beryl, should I use fglrx or the drivers from ATI website?
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> orangefly: go with dapper.
[09:46] <banjooie> Cause lspci picks up my sound card.
[09:46] <ivx> fyrestrt, do you have any other ideas?
[09:46] <banjooie> Amarok makes motions that indicate it's got the right drivers.
[09:46] <jackyyll> hey guys, how do i set up mod_python?
[09:46] <VividHazE> Hey everyone i'm trying to find the Bus ID no. of my HP Scanjet 3970 scanner so i can run the command sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/001/002 and add permissions for it, but i don't know how to find it
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> LuisMendes: it doesn't matter. Beryl doesn't care, its just a window manager. You need to use XGL not AIGLX with ATI's fglrx drivers.
[09:46] <VividHazE> anyone know a command or menu in Kubuntu for this?
[09:46] <brainsik> jackyyll: install the package and then enable it in apache
, ok then, I think I'm all set :)
[09:46] <AlexC_> hey guys,
[09:47] <AlexC_> Firefox isn't opening links in new tabs sometimes, it's really annoying
[09:47] <wildchild> fyrestrtr: can't find any description of my graphic card with command lshw
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> jackyyll: sudo apt-get isntall libapache-mod-python-2.4 && sudo a2enmod mod_python
[09:47] <jackyyll> thanks
[09:47] <AlexC_> I have it set to open in new tabs, but it doesn't sometimes
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> jackyyll: atleast I think that's right....
[09:47] <brainsik> fyrestrtr: libapache2-*
[09:48] <jackyyll> couldnt find package :s
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> brainsik: ah yeah.
[09:48] <brainsik> jackyyll: try libapache2-mod-python
[09:48] <VividHazE> can anyone help me with my problem above?
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> jackyyll: its libapache2-mod-python2.4
[09:48] <jackyyll> there we go :D
[09:48] <jackyyll> thanks
[09:48] <Helpmeee> I tried to use the command: sudo aptitude install xorg-dev and I get a msg: Resolving dependencies... Unable to resolve dependencies. giving up... Abort.
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> VividHazE: lsusb
[09:48] <VividHazE> thanks fyrestrtr
[09:49] <brainsik> jackyll: you can use 'apt-cache search' to find packages. For example, 'apt-cache search mod python'
[09:49] <jackyyll> ooh
[09:49] <jackyyll> ic
[09:49] <jackyyll> thanks guys
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> jackyyll: also http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> !packages
[09:49] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:49] <iwkse> hi all, how i can find the icon-theme conf file? i need to modify the default icon theme
[09:49] <orangefly> how do you install a vpn from a terminal....???....
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> orangefly: sudo apt-get install openvpn (and then configure it)
[09:51] <Orangekid13> ok does anyone know how to get to the "restricted" section of the ubuntu package repository?
[09:51] <Orangekid13> trying to get my nvidia drivers installed
[09:51] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Okay, looks like it's got those two installed now.  The kernel image is probably still bad, but I've got the old one and a 2.6.19 image I can use if need be.  Let me try another restart here...
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> !universe | Orangekid13
[09:51] <ubotu> Orangekid13: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:52] <iwkse> 
[09:52] <Orangekid13> i have a how-to from help.ubuntu.com that ISNT WORKING
[09:52] <Helpmeee> I tried to use the command: sudo aptitude install xorg-dev and I get a msg: Resolving dependencies... Unable to resolve dependencies. giving up... Abort.
[09:52] <Orangekid13> ubotu sucks
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <iwkse> any help with gnome gconf files? i need to modify the default icon theme by here
[09:53] <Orangekid13> fuck ubotu
[09:53] <WizCraker_> fyrestrtr:  so I should set bind-address in my.cnf (mysql)  to the public IP so that I can access it remotely?
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> Orangekid13: its a wiki, if you see a problem. Login and change it.
[09:53] <banjooie> uboto sound
[09:53] <banjooie> ubotu sound
[09:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:53] <un_operateur1> Orangekid13, you can just add something like this to your sources.list  - deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main multiverse restricted universe
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> WizCraker_: yes, then make sure you add a user that has rights to access mysql from a remote ip. By default, all users only have access rights from localhost.
[09:53] <Crazyl1nk> i need help configing my router to allow people to connect to my Teamspeak server
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> Crazyl1nk: www.portforward.com
[09:54] <Orangekid13> still need help finding the restricted section of the package repository
[09:54] <Crazyl1nk> fyrestrtr: do you have EXP with Teamspeak?
[09:54] <Orangekid13> the nvidia binary drivers i need are in there
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> Orangekid13: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> Crazyl1nk: no, but plenty of experience in port forwarding :)
[09:55] <WizCraker_> fyrestrtr: thanks for the help. :)
[09:55] <Crazyl1nk> can you help personaly? im new to this kinda thing
[09:55] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Okay, that's mostly a success.  The new kernel worked after all, apt must've repaired it.  I still have a glitched cursor, though.
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> Crazyl1nk: just go to the site I mentioned. Find your router model/number. Adjust the ports to the ones that teamspeak uses. Its that simple.
[09:56] <nofeardjb> Crazyl1nk: portforward.com is crazy easy! :D
[09:56] <Ademan> the gnome save file dialog loses the file name when you change folders...
[09:56] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: On one monitor, it shows up about the size of a desktop icon, and filled with what looks like a bad sampling of either my desktop or my theme.\
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: 'glitched'?
[09:56] <rapid> Crazyl1nk, open a web connection to your router and forward the powers
[09:56] <djembe> does gnome-obex-send or the nautilus-sendto (obex) programs work for anyone?
[09:56] <rapid> Crazyl1nk, er ports
[09:56] <Crazyl1nk> im in my router now
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: sounds like something proper drivers could fix.
[09:56] <Orangekid13> ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET TO THE RESTRICTED SECTION OF THE UBUNTU PACKAGE REPOSITORY?!?!?!?
[09:56] <Crazyl1nk> i have the list of ports Teamspeak uses
[09:56] <FunnyMan3595> ! caps | Orangekid13
[09:56] <ubotu> Orangekid13: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:56] <Orangekid13> PLEASE
[09:56] <rapid> Crazyl1nk, look for port redirection / forwarding
[09:57] <Crazyl1nk> but yeah its like having 2 batteries but not knowing which is + and whats -
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> Orangekid13: I have told you twice, un_operateur1 already told you once. Stop shouting and go to the pages I tell you to go to, and read them.
[09:57] <Orangekid13> yeah but you like to ignore both
[09:57] <Helpmeee> I tried to use the command: sudo aptitude install xorg-dev and I get a msg: Resolving dependencies... Unable to resolve dependencies. giving up... Abort.
[09:57] <Orangekid13> i'm on a friggen how to from help.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <Orangekid13> and it's not working
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> Helpmeee: see if there is a bug at LP for it.
[09:57] <Orangekid13> it's expecting different windows than are coming up from its directions
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> Helpmeee: if not, file one :)
[09:57] <Tonren> Hey guys, does anyone here own a System 76 computer?  Can anyone tell me where I can go to read reviews and stuff?
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:58] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Graphics driver, I assume?  Unless the upgrade switched it, I'm on vesa at the moment, I could swap back to ati.
[09:58] <Orangekid13> someone else try it if they don't believe me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:58] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: No doubt
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: suggest you install it first, as with the new kernel, you probably need the new driver.
[09:58] <jbfavre> good evening everybody, I've got a software Raid problem with 3 firewire disks
[09:58] <power83> hi
[09:59] <power83> ubuntu 6.10 with bugs???
[09:59] <nofeardjb> Orange: i've installed automatix2 and just installed the nvidia drivers that way
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: if you are on a laptop, go for the fglrx drivers (better power safe / suspend+resume support)
[09:59] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: I take it the upgrade wouldn't upgrade that?
[09:59] <FunnyMan3595> !automatix | nofeardjb
[09:59] <ubotu> nofeardjb: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:59] <mike1980> hi guys could anyone please tell me the command to install kde AND X on by unbuntu server plase?
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: no, it didn't for me.
[09:59] <nofeardjb> rgr that
[09:59] <power83> I've installe d alternate-i386 on Pentium D 930, but the kernel don't boot
[09:59] <jbfavre> The array isn't properly reconstruct on boot because md0 set up before the complete recognition of the disks
[09:59] <jbfavre> any idea ?
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> mike1980: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:59] <power83> it stopped the first line "Starting up..."
[09:59] <nofeardjb> !WorksforMe
[09:59] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:59] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: Nope, main system with a dual-head card.
[10:00] <mike1980> fyrestrtr: thanks
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> FunnyMan3595: okay, then you can try the fglrx drivers in the repos :) Instructions are (as always) at the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video -- make sure you pay attention to edgy-specific stuff.
[10:00] <banjooie> ....
[10:01] <intrepidus> Quick question: how do I determine, if I don't remember, which drive grub is installed on? I know it's my primary drive...but I don't know what that is in grub-speak; hd(0,0), etc.?
[10:01] <banjooie> argh!
[10:01] <banjooie> That was the issue?
[10:01] <banjooie> The fucking analog/digital switch!?
[10:01] <nothlit> I have x11vnc processes that incorrectly terminated, and now they want to use higher ports. Is there someway to flush the ports/get back control?
[10:01] <Orangekid13> ok if nobody's going to try to help me at least send me the links again cause i lost the window at some point
[10:01] <DBO> banjooie, watch your language please
[10:01] <nofeardjb> !ask
[10:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:01] <banjooie> Sorry.
[10:01] <nothlit> intrepidus, grub just starts counting from 0
[10:01] <diezare> !info recompiling kernel
[10:01] <ubotu> Package recompiling does not exist in edgy
[10:01] <banjooie> Just been trying to fix this like, a week
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> intrepidus: from the grub shell (type 'grub') to get it, hit hd( and then <tab> to see the grub devices. That's one way (the way I use). Might be another.
[10:01] <diezare> !info kernel compilation
[10:01] <ubotu> Package kernel does not exist in edgy
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> !kernel | diezare
[10:01] <ubotu> diezare: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:01] <FunnyMan3595> fyrestrtr: *thanks and runs off to go read*
[10:02] <nofeardjb> orange: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:02] <djembe> can anyone help with gnome-obex-send (or nautilus-sendto)
[10:02] <diezare> fyrestrtr, thnx
[10:02] <nothlit> !kernel
[10:02] <nofeardjb> orange: or if you want beta: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beta_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> diezare: cheers :)
[10:02] <diezare> lol
[10:02] <Slart> I have 2 soundcards in my computer.. sometimes when I boot my soundblaster is alsa card 0, sometimes it's alsa card 1.. how can I make this consistent? I dont want to edit .asoundrc every time I boot
[10:02] <nothlit> diezare, btw !info is only for packages
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> Slart: can you disable one from your bios?
[10:03] <intrepidus> nothlit: so my drive will be hd(0,0) if it's the primary sata master?
[10:03] <intrepidus> fyrestrtr: if i type hd( and tab it just...prints hd( again
[10:03] <stefg> Orangekid13: point 1 on the nvidia-install 101: Breathe, relax, forget about your windows-habits in installing drivers. go for a walk, be back in five minutes and then we're going to set up your nvidia-card...
[10:03] <dave_> whats the best way to burn a vcd in ubuntu?
[10:03] <diezare> nothlit, Oh, k thnx dude.
[10:03] <Slart> fyrestrtr: oh.. I want both... I just want them to be named consistently
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> intrepidus: try hd(0,<tab>
[10:03] <nothlit> intrepidus, for first drive, first partition
[10:03] <nofeardjb> !ask | nofeardjb
[10:03] <ubotu> nofeardjb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:03] <nofeardjb> :D
[10:03] <shwag> anyone use the debian phpmyadmin setup scripts?
[10:03] <intrepidus> fyrestrtr: same thing
[10:04] <jbfavre> does anybody use software raid with firewire disks ?
[10:04] <nothlit> !phpmyadmin
[10:04] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.2-0.2 (edgy), package size 3522 kB, installed size 13752 kB
[10:04] <ollekalle> Hi. My NVIDIA misbehaves. Sometimes x wont start and sometimes it starts - but in a minute or 5 it hangs (only response from remote log-in). any ideas someone?
[10:04] <nofeardjb> where can i find the list of IRC commands that are available in this channel?
[10:04] <nothlit> !phpmyadmin > shwag
[10:04] <nothlit> shwag, you don't need them?
[10:04] <Slart> ollekalle: just a wild guess.. overheating? =)
[10:04] <Pf123b> any ideas, why i go "sudo gedit" and it never opens?
[10:04] <nothlit> !bot
[10:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:05] <nothlit> Pf123b, never use sudo for graphical programs, use gksudo
[10:05] <Pf123b> gksudo doesnt work either
[10:05] <shwag> nothlit: well... specifically im having trouble getting configuration for remote servers to work.
[10:05] <stefg> Pf123b: because there's an invisible propmpt for your password .-) .. try gksudo gedit
[10:05] <StephenL> why do people say to never use sudo for graphical programs?
[10:06] <stefg> StephenL: that applies to your question,too
[10:06] <dave_> whats the best way to burn a vcd in ubuntu that'll play in dvd players?
[10:06] <ollekalle> Slart: wild guess. hmm.. the case is quite cold as well as the fan exhaust.... :/
[10:06] <stefg> dave_: k3b
[10:06] <StephenL> sudo works just fine, comes up in a terminal asking for password
[10:06] <dave_> stefg can i just do it as a data and dvd players read the avi files?
[10:06] <jbfavre> !raid
[10:06] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:06] <Pf123b> (gedit:11919): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[10:06] <Pf123b> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[10:06] <dave_> or is there some setting somewhere
[10:07] <Pf123b> thats with gksudo
[10:07] <Slart> ollekalle: ok.. just seems 90% of all problems that appear after a while has got something to do with cooling.... what driver do you use?
[10:07] <jrib> StephenL: some programs end up taking ownership of ~/.Xauthority and then people can't log in
[10:07] <Pf123b> sudo gedit worked yesterday
[10:07] <eyalw> hi!
[10:07] <eyalw> I need your help
[10:07] <ollekalle> Slart: usually I fail to start it at all. I use the nvidia-generic driver
[10:08] <shwag> how do I clear out extra files that I no longer need...which apt saves.
[10:08] <StephenL> jrib: intersting.  guess i have just never experienced that.
[10:08] <stefg> dave_: no... vcd's can be beasts... so much to look after to get a workink VCD.. k3b assists you in converting the video into the proper format, but you still have to know, what you're doing
[10:08] <Slart> ollekalle: have you tried the binary driver from nvidia?
[10:08] <eyalw> I just installed apache, php and mySQL. now i wanna configure httpd.conf but it looks very suspiciously short, not like my server on windows
[10:08] <Pf123b> is there any other ways of starting gedit with root?
[10:08] <nofeardjb> !ask | eyalw
[10:08] <ubotu> eyalw: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:08] <Pf123b> eyalw, try apache2.conf
[10:08] <Slart> ollekalle: just to check if it's the driver or something else
[10:09] <jrib> StephenL: I haven't either, and I think it's really a bug with the program.  I know k3b used to do this and many people would sudo because they didn't have proper permissions on their cd drive.  But that has since been fixed
[10:09] <stefg> Pf123b: gksudo gedit
[10:09] <nofeardjb> eyalw: windows apache and linux apache files are set up a little differently
[10:09] <eyalw> Pf123b: whats the different?
[10:09] <intrepidus> Whenever I right-click the menus appear -behind- the windows instead of on them - is that normal?
[10:09] <Pf123b> stefg, gksudo and sudo gedit dont doanything
[10:09] <eyalw> ha, i get it
[10:09] <Pf123b> eyalw, atleast with me, apache2.conf is long :p
[10:09] <ivx> if when i install something and it says 1 not fully installed or removed, how do i know what package that is?
[10:09] <jbfavre> !mdadm
[10:09] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB
[10:09] <ollekalle> Slart: yeah. I think thats the one: apt-get nvidia-glx
[10:09] <eyalw> thanks, just wanted to be surwe
[10:09] <StephenL> jrib:  I see.
[10:09] <stefg> Pf123b: then your sudoers file is broken, or your user isn't member of the group admin
[10:10] <Pf123b> only one group on my computer, im doomed
[10:10] <StephenL> pf123b: what happens when you do sudo -i
[10:10] <Slart> ollekalle: yes.. that's the one... in that case.. have you tried the open source one? just use nv instead of nvidia in xorg.conf
[10:10] <Crazyl1nk> fyrestrtr: is strikced IP the same as setting your computer to run on a IP you tell it to?
[10:10] <ollekalle> Slart: is it provided in the very same package?
[10:10] <jbfavre> !mdraid
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <Crazyl1nk> fyrestrtr: Static
[10:10] <Pf123b> StephenL, i get root@...
[10:10] <Slart> ollekalle: I think you've got the open source one installed by default..
[10:11] <stefg> !raid
[10:11] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:11] <StephenL> pf123b:  try typing gedit now
[10:11] <jbfavre> !dmraid
[10:11] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[10:11] <Pf123b> cannot open display: (null)
[10:11] <Pf123b> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[10:11] <ollekalle> Slart: i'll try. We'll know in a few minutes :D
[10:11] <arrenlex> Pf123b: Can't use X apps from sudo -i. You're going to have to use a command line editor, like nano.
[10:11] <Slart> ollekalle: good luck.. we'll be here waiting =)
[10:12] <StephenL> arrenlex: yes you can
[10:12] <Pf123b> arrenlex, but why was I able to get into gedit with sudo yesterday, and not today
[10:12] <arrenlex> StephenL: From sudo? Yes. From sudo -i? No.
[10:12] <StephenL> arrenlex: you are wrong
[10:12] <Pf123b> sudo, gksudo, sudo -i...none of them work :(
[10:12] <Macris> any of you guys know a cinelerra like videotool that i can perhaps install easier...
[10:12] <stefg> Pf123b: make sure you're member of admin: sudo addgroup %username admin
[10:13] <emilia> hey does anyone know how i can view my shared folder on ubuntu from windows xp?
[10:13] <fabs> hey
[10:13] <emilia> i keep getting an error saying i have no permission
[10:13] <stefg> log out and back in to make it happen
[10:13] <fabs> howz it guys?
[10:13] <StephenL> pf123b: are you running this from a gnome-terminal or are you doing it from a real terminal (alt+f1)?
[10:13] <Slart> fyrestrtr: I found a solution.. it's apparently a common question .. http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ042
[10:13] <arrenlex> StephenL: I am not wrong. I just tried it.
[10:14] <Pf123b> my guess is terminal, i just clicked the one under applications
[10:14] <padlefot> emilia: Explore2fs (http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm)
[10:14] <StephenL> arrenlex:  sorry, but you are.   I do it all the time and I just did it right now.
[10:15] <Pf123b> stefg, The user `pf123' is already a member of `admin'.
[10:15] <eyalw> and, where do i change the server root directory, (not he configuration files root)
[10:15] <emilia> padlefot : no i just want to see a shared folder on the network, not mount a liunux file system on xp
[10:15] <eyalw> i cant find it in apache2.cond
[10:15] <StephenL> pf123b: can you run gedit without sudo...just as yourself?
[10:15] <stefg> Pf123b: ok, then we know to look somewhere else
[10:15] <Pf123b> eyalw, i didnt find it either, but its in /var/www/
[10:15] <eyalw> so we cant change it??...
[10:15] <Pf123b> yes I can run gedit, but when it comes to modifing my php.ini, read only soo...thats why I want sudo
[10:16] <Pf123b> eyalw, im not sure how
[10:16] <StephenL> ok...and what is the error you get when you try to run it as root?
[10:16] <arrenlex> StephenL: No, really. I'm not: http://arrenlex.diff.be/no.ogm
[10:16] <eyalw> strange
[10:16] <Pf123b> StephenL, i hit enter, then the thing jumps to the bottom, and just sits there for all eternity
[10:16] <eyalw> ok, thats not that importent
[10:16] <Pf123b> and blinks, it looks like its crying
[10:17] <Pf123b> its weird because it was working fine yesterday
[10:17] <Slart> eh... where's the modprobe.conf in ubuntu? can't find it in /etc
[10:18] <StephenL> arrenlex: that is odd. are you running kubuntu?
[10:19] <arrenlex> StephenL: Yes. But it doesn't matter.
[10:19] <StephenL> arrenlex:  works fine for me in ubuntu dapper and edgy
[10:19] <ollekalle> Slart: I got a out-of-range-signal on my CRT. Probably I have to put some restrictions in my display-part of the xorg.cfg file. Do you think monotor capabilities would make the setup work for a fem minutes and then collapse - seems strange to me
[10:19] <StephenL> arrenlex: might be something to do with kde
[10:19] <pike_> su - pf123b -c "sudo gedit filename" heh
[10:19] <monkey050> HymnToLife, are you here?  I have a question.
[10:19] <monkey050> Again.
[10:19] <Pf123b> pike_, what do i do?
[10:20] <arrenlex> StephenL: The same thing happens for inkscape, which isn't a KDE app.
[10:20] <Slart> ollekalle: nope.. monitor caps should either work forever or not at all.. unless your monitor is severly damages I guess =)
[10:20] <ollekalle> Slart: i.e. I lowered the freqs already in conf file - and success! (at least for a minute now)
[10:20] <StephenL> arrenlex: but you are still in kde...
[10:20] <Slart> ollekalle: you can always do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:20] <arrenlex> StephenL: Can you please explain to me how kde interferes with sudo?
[10:20] <ollekalle> Slart: what will it do?
[10:21] <WizCraker_> after changing the mysql listening ip address and then restarting i get the infamous stopping server from pid file error.. I assumed that I could get more information by looking at the logs in /var/log but the mysql.log files are empty.  Am I looking in the wrong place?
[10:21] <Slart> ollekalle: lets you set driver, freqs, language etc
[10:21] <StephenL> arrenlex: it doesn't.  its something to do with environment variables is my guess getting changed when you su to root
[10:21] <brady_> is there a dictionary meta-package to install all/most of the dictionaries?
[10:21] <ollekalle> slart: I manually modifid the xorg.conf, basically the same I suppose?
[10:21] <Slart> ollekalle: yup
[10:21] <userek> how can change text console resolution? it uses 720x400, its hard to find more undstandard mode ;)
[10:21] <monkey050> I have a question about the time settings on 6.10 - they're not saving.
[10:22] <loz> Hi everybody
[10:22] <loz> anybody on edgy here?
[10:22] <Pf123b> Hi
[10:22] <monkey050> When I re boot, it's like 10AM again in sunny July.
[10:22] <ollekalle> Slart: do you know any reason why I should try to get the "nvidia" bin-driver work insted of the "nv" one?
[10:22] <arrenlex> !anyone | loz
[10:22] <ubotu> loz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:22] <Slart> ollekalle: the bin driver offers hardware acceleration
[10:23] <Slart> ollekalle: so, no gaming while using this one =)
[10:23] <Pf123b> Well StephenL, arrenlex, stefg im going to reboot this laptop, and hope for the best, that sudo/sudo -i/gksudo starts working magicly again
[10:23] <HymnToLife> monkey050, chech your BIOS battery
[10:23] <ollekalle> Slart: 3d-acceleration? what about mpeg2 decoder for DVD?
[10:23] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Hi Hymn.
[10:23] <Slart> ollekalle: no 3d-acceleration.. don't think you'll get any of the goodies you paid lots of money for..
[10:23] <StephenL> arrenlx: see here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=214578  it is indeed an environment variable problem.
[10:23] <loz> can anybody guide me to a link for connecting two ubuntus together via ssh?
[10:24] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Is there a way I can do that easily on my laptop?
[10:24] <Slart> ollekalle: but it works alright in 2d mode..
[10:24] <monkey050-Ubuntu> I don't have easy access to the Mobo.
[10:24] <HymnToLife> I don't think so
[10:24] <StephenL> arrenlex: *
[10:24] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Agh.
[10:24] <stefg> loz: sudo aptitude install openssh-server .... that's it, basically
[10:24] <monkey050-Ubuntu> By the way, i'm on Ubuntu now. lol
[10:24] <sivik_> is there another program other, but like mythtv
[10:24] <arrenlex> StephenL: But not a KDE problem. Which means there is no reason that it should have worked for pf123b.
[10:24] <Slart> ollekalle: and you'll sleep well at night knowing it's open source... well.. also since you won't be up playing quake you'll have nothing to keep you up =)
[10:25] <ollekalle> Slart: paid lots for. Actually I bought the cheapest nVidia card I could find with TV-out capability :D
[10:25] <StephenL> arrenlex: then why does it work fine for me?
[10:25] <monkey050-Ubuntu> OK well thanks for the answer.  I was fearing that would be it - not a big problem anyway.
[10:25] <Slart> ollekalle: hehe.. ok.. not so much money then
[10:25] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Also, I did those GRUB edits you told me.
[10:25] <arrenlex> StephenL: Possibly you have that variable set. Is it in your /root/.bashrc?
[10:25] <monkey050-Ubuntu> I couldn't do the devices.map thing that frogzoo told me though.
[10:26] <monkey050-Ubuntu> It came up blank.
[10:26] <StephenL> steve@steve-desktop-lnx:~$ set |grep XAUTHORITY
[10:26] <StephenL> XAUTHORITY=/home/steve/.Xauthority
[10:26] <StephenL> steve@steve-desktop-lnx:~$ sudo -i
[10:26] <StephenL> Password:
[10:26] <StephenL> root@steve-desktop-lnx:~# set |grep XAUTHORITY
[10:26] <StephenL> XAUTHORITY=/home/steve/.Xauthority
[10:26] <arrenlex> !pastebin | StephenL
[10:26] <ubotu> StephenL: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:26] <StephenL> i know about pastebin it was just a few lines
[10:26] <arrenlex> StephenL: 6 lines. The maximum IIRC is 2.
[10:26] <StephenL> do the same thing from your shell...see what your output is
[10:26] <idigital> I need help installing my sound .
[10:26] <loz> ubotu ssh
[10:26] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:27] <ecarnol> Hi room
[10:27] <arrenlex> StephenL: I don't have an XAUTHORITY variable on either normal user or root.
[10:27] <Orangekid13> anyone have experience setting up twinview then unplugging the second monitor?
[10:27] <Orangekid13> (nvidia twinview)
[10:28] <refus3d> how do i change the icons for indivdual icons
[10:28] <vlt> Hello. i just installed Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 and the pkg vnc4server. When I start a server `vncserver :1` it says ok but doesn't run. The logfile tells mwe something about missing fonts. There was such an issue on breezy, I remember. What to do on edgy now?
[10:28] <spacepod> hello all
[10:28] <dreamer> how can I run a .iso from my hd ?
[10:28] <devnull_> hello i just upgraded to edgy and have no text in my xmms menus
[10:28] <refus3d> help please want to create a mixture of various icons themes how?
[10:28] <StephenL> arrenlex: That's because it is set by gdm...which is why you don't have it.  Which is also why sudo -i will work just fine under ubuntu
[10:28] <vlt> dreamer: qemu?
[10:28] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Dreamer:  You'd have to mount it to something somehow.  Similar to daemon tools on windows.  I don't know exactly though.
[10:28] <dreamer> hmm
[10:28] <dreamer> !qemu
[10:28] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:28] <vlt> dreamer: Or what does "run" mean for you?
[10:29] <refus3d> hey?
[10:29] <johns^> dreamer: what kind of iso? software?
[10:29] <johns^> movie?
[10:29] <dreamer> hmm, like, to play it (aka Alcohol 120% ?) without burning
[10:29] <dreamer> it's software
[10:29] <lontra> is there a flashplugin 9 deb somewhere?
[10:29] <johns^> mount -o loop nameofiso.iso /media/mountpoint_of_choice
[10:29] <idigital> I'm having problem with my Ubuntu is not able to play sound / detect sound driv
[10:29] <devnull_> is there a reason a gtk menu is missing text ?
[10:30] <Slart> lontra: 32bit or 64bit?
[10:30] <spacepod> can anyone point me to information on setting up samba to have password protected folders
[10:30] <lontra> Slart: 32 bit
[10:30] <devnull_> i think i might have battled this issue when i installed dapper
[10:30] <dreamer> !alsa | idigital
[10:30] <ubotu> idigital: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:30] <mralphabet> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning
[10:30] <Slart> lontra: do a google for flash 9 beta linux
[10:30] <callicles> Hello everybody
[10:30] <FunnyMan3595> Okay, I need some help getting xorg.conf set up with the new driver.
[10:30] <mralphabet> dreamer: see link ^^
[10:30] <johns^> spacepod: password protected folders are not possible afiak
[10:30] <johns^> userlevel access however is
[10:30] <Slart> lontra: there is an installer from adobe... I can't use it (I use 64bit).. but it's supposed to work
[10:30] <dreamer> thnx mralphabet
[10:30] <vlt> A solution for vnc server and font problem anyone?
[10:31] <devnull_> aswell as i am having issues getting connected to my wireless network again like before i had network manager on dapper
[10:31] <FunnyMan3595> At first, I think it had the two monitors reversed from the old version, since the right hand monitor showed the default X cursor when I moved the mouse left (like the left used to do), and the left was showing "mode not supported", probably because it has a lower res cap.
[10:31] <spacepod> well lets say i want to setup a private folder only allowing a specific users to log into it.. how would i go about doing that
[10:31] <devnull_> does the upgrade leave stuff behind and not install all needed software ?
[10:31] <ollekalle> anyone have a good suggestion on how I can assure my graphics works. e.g. is there some terminal sw that is constantly moving like the amiga bounce demo?
[10:32] <arrenlex> ollekalle: glxgears
[10:32] <spacepod> i just used the installer lontra
[10:32] <FunnyMan3595> Running dexconf got me a working display, but it's a double-display of the same screen, at low resolution.
[10:32] <johns^> spacepod: setup a share and add an option "valid user = username"
[10:32] <stefg> vlt: i don't know if this relates to your problem, but i found that vino (gnomes vnc-server) doesn't start automatically because of a bug. I added /usr/lib/vino-server to my autostarted apps to fix that
[10:32] <ivx> hey when i try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart it returns nothing, anyone know why?
[10:32] <Maxime> Can anyone help me?
[10:32] <spacepod> just take a look at the readme file.. you have to run the intaller from command line.. and place it into the firefox directory
[10:32] <shwag>  sudo -s;    sudo: unable to lookup dev via gethostbyname()
[10:32] <Shaba1> Hello folks
[10:33] <ubuntu> hi there
[10:33] <arrenlex> !anyone | Maxime
[10:33] <FunnyMan3595> Is there a parameter I can pass to dexconf to tell it to set up two displays?
[10:33] <ubotu> Maxime: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:33] <mralphabet> ivx: it is quite possible that the script doesn't have an echo telling you that it did something
[10:33] <ubuntu> i have a problem and i need help
[10:33] <arrenlex> !ask | ubuntu
[10:33] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:33] <sivik_> ubuntu: what is it
[10:33] <monkey050> Is there a hotkey that changes Workspace???
[10:33] <monkey050> 6.10 that is...
[10:33] <vlt> !vnc | vlt
[10:33] <ubotu> vlt: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:33] <eilker> ivx: what about sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld
[10:33] <Shaba1> Is there a linux equivalent to an Windows startup script?
[10:33] <ollekalle> arrenlex: thanx
[10:33] <shinda> richiefrich you around?
[10:33] <johns^> monkey050: ctrl-alt-arrow
[10:33] <ubuntu> i have a problem in the grub, error 17
[10:33] <Gumby> monkey050: you mean ctrl+alt+Left ?
[10:33] <monkey050> Thanks.
[10:34] <devnull_> Shaba1, there is rc.d and startups for your window manager aswell
[10:34] <ivx> eilker, it says command not found
[10:34] <Maxime> I'm installing a ubuntu server (dapper drake) everything installed fine but when it as to boot linux my computer reboots, he finds the kernel but then it just restarts
[10:34] <monkey050> Why did they take out 2 workspaces after Badger???
[10:34] <spacepod> johns how would i then login to that share via xp?
[10:34] <Gumby> ubuntu: did you just update to a new kernel?
[10:34] <johns^> uhh, I use samba as a domain master
[10:35] <johns^> so a log in to the domain and the logon scripts take care of the connections
[10:35] <mralphabet> spacepod: from windows explorer, \\ip_address in the address bar
[10:35] <ubuntu> i repartitioned one of the windows partitions using partition magic and when i restarted the computer the grub showed a msg called error 17
[10:35] <StephenL> shaba1: System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs
[10:35] <Shaba1> devnu11 what is rc.d Is that a specific distro file/program or does it come with all versions of linux
[10:35] <ubuntu> i am now booting from live cd
[10:35] <johns^> spacepod: I got a commented smb.conf
[10:35] <Gumby> ubuntu: you probably need to reinstall grub (or you acidentally formatted a partition you needed)
[10:35] <johns^> never mind, it's in dutch
[10:35] <spacepod> hrrm i obviously need to do more reading.. what would be a good url to look at
[10:36] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Where can I install the MP3 codecs from??
[10:36] <stefg> ubuntu, you repartitioned your drive, didn't you?
[10:36] <johns^> samba.org
[10:36] <Shaba1> Thanks StephenL but what I was thinking of is something that would start even before the desktop manager apeared
[10:36] <eilker> shaba1:  do u have this /home/user/.gnome/Autostart
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> !mp3 | monkey050-Ubuntu
[10:36] <ubotu> monkey050-Ubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:36] <monkey050-Ubuntu> I want to play some music in Rhythmbox but it won't play.
[10:36] <ubuntu> no, i am sure that i didn't repartition any of the linux partitions
[10:36] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Ok
[10:36] <Crazyl1nk> im in need of help with Linux port staticing
[10:36] <mralphabet> spacepod: http://jonpeck.blogspot.com/2006/11/how-to-configure-80-fileserver-in-45.html
[10:36] <Maxime> I'm installing a ubuntu server (dapper drake) everything installed fine but when it as to boot linux my computer reboots, he finds the kernel but then it just restarts
[10:36] <Crazyl1nk> i mean IP staticing&
[10:36] <StephenL> shaba1: /etc/rc.local
[10:36] <fraganator> Hola mi amigos
[10:36] <stefg> ubuntu: define 'any of the linux partitions'
[10:36] <sysdoc> I just upgraded Xorg, and now my nvidia driver reinstall is throwing a error saying it can't load the nvidia.ko file. Strang since that is the same driver I just had installed.... Anyone have any idea wth is going on here?? Oh btw I'm running edgy
[10:36] <ubuntu> i think the problem is that the grub must be updated because it is now pointing to the wrong partition but i don't know how
[10:36] <johns^> spacepod: samba is not diffucult, it's just very much :)
[10:37] <spacepod> ty Mralphabet and johns
[10:37] <Shaba1> Hold on StephenL let me google that.
[10:37] <StephenL> shaba1: just add whatever command you want to run in that file.
[10:37] <spacepod> i'm just diving into this.. if its not obvious already i'm a linux noob.. however i'm loving this unbuntu distro very nice.. last distro i used was redhat 7.1
[10:37] <Crazyl1nk> what do i set for Static DNS when setting up my router for Static IPs?
[10:37] <Shaba1> To let you know I am adminster a windows network and I am getting workstations donated that have ubuntu on them.
[10:38] <Shaba1> I need to find someway of intergrating them into AD for authentication and verification even to getting the desktop itself.
[10:38] <johns^> spacepod: http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/
[10:38] <johns^> very usefull
[10:38] <Maxime> anyone an idea why my server keeps rebooting ?
[10:38] <Crazyl1nk> i need help
[10:38] <fraganator> cause you keep typing reboot?
[10:38] <Phuzion> Maxime:  Read your logs
[10:38] <TheVault> Can someone help me out?
[10:39] <stefg> Maxime: tke the chewing gum from the reset button
[10:39] <Phuzion> !help
[10:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:39] <Phuzion> !ask
[10:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:39] <TheVault> lol
[10:39] <StephenL> shaba1: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91510.html
[10:39] <devnull_> could be a hardware problem
[10:39] <Maxime> i can't read the logs cause it doesn't want to boot..it installed fine but when it says 'booting...' it reboots the whole system until the same point
[10:39] <ubuntu> i have the output of fdisk -l and menu.lst, can someone of you guys see it and tell me the problem
[10:39] <Shaba1> johns^ Samba goes the wrong way.
[10:39] <Crazyl1nk> how do i set up a static IP with Static DNS when i dont know it
[10:39] <johns^> Shaba1: why?
[10:39] <djembe> does anyone have experience getting gnome-obex-send or nautilus-sendto working in edgy?
[10:39] <pike_> ubuntu: pastebin em
[10:39] <Shaba1> That is for letting windows machine access a unix file share.
[10:39] <pike_> !paste
[10:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:39] <Phuzion> Maxime:  Do you have a second machine you can hook the server's HDD to so you can dump the logs and read them?
[10:39] <TheVault> Well, I just bought a Wireless Network Card for my Desktop(USB) and I got the install disc and I can use linux but i have to do configurations that im not quite sure about
[10:40] <captain_laredo> hey room...new ubuntu convert here...:) quick question...ubuntu no longer recognizes my CDROM...it gives me an error message "Unable to mount the selected volume....mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist"
[10:40] <Shaba1> I want the linux machines to access a windows server/fileshares
[10:40] <devnull_> so no text in xmms ... anyone know what this is about in edgy from dapper
[10:40] <johns^> Shaba1: well i think that's great. windows machines bowing for the allmighty linux/samba server
[10:40] <johns^> Shaba1: smbclient
[10:40] <globe> when I apt-get -d where does it download the package files ?
[10:40] <Shaba1> Well it does not help me.
[10:40] <Maxime> yes i have...it's a windows tough...:-)
[10:40] <johns^> globe: /var/cache/apt?
[10:41] <stefg> Maxime: at the grub boot screen, press 'esc' and 'e' to get to a editable boot parameter line. Take out 'quiet splash' so you can read the screen while booting
[10:41] <globe> johns^: yea, I think thats it  thx
[10:41] <StephenL> shaba1: read that guide i pasted
[10:41] <Turias> newbie question here.  I ran 'aptitude upgrade', which failed.  Now when I try to run it again, is says i dont have any apckages to upgrade.  how do i go back and upgrade the packages that failed the first time?
[10:41] <Maxime> ok i'll try that
[10:41] <TheVault> Someone going to help me?
[10:41] <pike_> Shaba1: i wrote a little bitty script to connect to windows shares i can pm you it to take a look at.
[10:41] <StephenL> TheVault: what was the question?
[10:41] <TheVault> can I pm ya?
[10:42] <StephenL> sure
[10:42] <ubuntu> i pastebin em
[10:42] <pike_> ubuntu: url?
[10:42] <globe> So, if I have a package installed on my computer, is there a way to re-dl the package file so that I can put it on a computer not connected to internet?
[10:42] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37050/
[10:42] <ubuntu> sorry
[10:42] <Shaba1> I will take whatever help I can get pike_
[10:42] <korupt> does anyone know what I need to install to provide Mono.Unix?
[10:43] <TheVault> PM ya StephenL
[10:43] <shinda> anyone here got any experience with curlftpfs, i'm trying to setup a virtual folder, but keep running into permission problems
[10:44] <eilker> i see my desktop in 2 minutes 45 seconds, dual boot xp and kubuntu, i have lamp,ftp,dhcp,samba,cups,vmware,dns servers, is it normal ?
[10:44] <StephenL> theVault: i didn't get it
[10:44] <idigital> I need someone to assist me through my sound problem
[10:44] <eilker> !alsa
[10:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:44] <idigital> i founded my sound driver
[10:44] <StephenL> globe: check /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:44] <ubuntu> i made a correction, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37051/
[10:44] <idigital> but i'm lost
[10:44] <ubuntu> please help
[10:44] <globe> StephenL: mmmk...thx i'll look
[10:44] <TheVault> How about now?
[10:44] <korupt> does anyone know what I need to install to provide the Mono.Unix namespace??
[10:44] <idigital> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8330&module=cmi8330
[10:45] <stefg> ubuntu: all your partiton numbers have decreased by 1... you took out a partition, didn't you?
[10:45] <idigital> how would use this and solve my sound problem?
[10:45] <ubuntu> i took one of the windows partitions and i divided it into two partitions
[10:45] <twager> Anyone upgraded from Edgy to Feisty ?
[10:46] <TheVault> How about now StephenL
[10:46] <stefg> ubuntu: oops... yeah, now i see it
[10:46] <globe> StephenL: nope...tis empty
[10:46] <ubuntu> good
[10:46] <ubuntu> do u know what exactly should i do
[10:46] <StephenL> globe: what package is it?
[10:46] <korupt> *sigh* anyone in here develop with mono?
[10:46] <globe> StephenL: build-essential
[10:47] <stefg> ubuntu that means two things: first grub needs to point to the right partition with it's config file. Are you on a Live-CD now?
[10:47] <captain_laredo> I have an issue with my DVD/CDRW drive...it worked for a while...and now I'm noticing that it can't mount the drive...the error message is: "mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist"
[10:47] <spacepod> wow this channel is popular thats for sure
[10:47] <twager> Anyone upgraded from Edgy to Feisty ?
[10:47] <ubuntu> yea, ani mounted ext3 partition
[10:47] <idigital> can anyone tell me where to get the alsa driver package
[10:47] <idigital> for http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8330&module=cmi8330
[10:48] <djembe> anyone know how to get gnome-obex-send or nautilus-sendto working for bluetooth?
[10:48] <age6racer> Hi i was here earlier trying to set up my wifi card. I was speaking to Clearscreen... I have upgraded my system and now ave the right kernel. I've also installed bcm43xx-fwcutter. Things seem to be ok. But how do I connect/choose wireless networks etc?
[10:48] <spacepod> anyone have any good music streams that i can listen to while working on this samba mess?
[10:48] <crimsun_> idigital: we ship snd-cmi8330 by default.
[10:48] <stefg> ubuntu: consider a nick change please.... Tab doesn't work with 300 people whose name starts with ubu...
[10:48] <Maxime> .
[10:48] <crimsun_> idigital: ``sudo modprobe snd-cmi8330''
[10:49] <idigital> FATAL: Error inserting snd_cmi8330 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-cmi8330.ko): No such device
[10:49] <stefg> ubuntu: so you've mounted your ubuntu partiton. Where did you mount it?
[10:49] <crimsun_> idigital: is pnp os enabled in bios?
[10:49] <idigital> how to enable pnp in bios
[10:49] <khaled83> i am ubuntu
[10:49] <crimsun_> idigital: check with your motherboard's manufacturer's Web site.
[10:49] <Sugaratias_UK> Hi All.  I just copied the nice Calibri font from a Vista install to my fresh Ubuntu install, but after installing the font and choosing it in the GNOME font selector, it looks ugly and is NOT antialiased. What do I have to do to make it look like it did in Vista...?
[10:49] <idigital> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8330&module=cmi8330#opt
[10:49] <StephenL> globe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/build-essential
[10:50] <Maxime> Stefg: I removed the quiet splash, should i just press escape and then b to boot?
[10:50] <stefg> Maxime: right
[10:50] <TheVault> StephenL, did you ya forget about me?
[10:50] <globe> StephenL: right, but won't I have to build it?
[10:50] <StephenL> thevault: i pm'd you and never got a response
[10:50] <NoStress> hi
[10:50] <TheVault> yeah I did
[10:50] <khaled83> Stefg, i am back, the grub problem
[10:50] <stefg> khaled83: Where have you mounted your ubuntu-partition?
[10:51] <age6racer> clearscreen: Could you help me with the final bit of setting up wireless please?
[10:51] <Maxime> stefg: the problem is still there, should i remove the savedefault?
[10:51] <captain_laredo> anybody have any advice on DVD/CDRW issues?
[10:51] <khaled83> stefg, on /mnt/rescue/
[10:51] <StephenL> globe: no you can download the .deb from there
[10:51] <stefg> Maxime: this wouldn't solve the problem... only let you see the mysery
[10:51] <Sugaratias_UK> anyone..? Why dont newly installed fonts come out antialiased..?
[10:52] <stefg> khaled83: sudo chroot /mnt/rescue
[10:52] <phaedra> captain_laredo,  What's the issue?
[10:52] <globe> StephenL: whoa.  thats cool, I never knew.  Thx alot ;-)
[10:52] <khaled83> stefg, ok
[10:52] <khaled83> stefg, then...
[10:52] <NoStress> "colorfire" screensaver reboot my computer each time it execute, it's the only one that reboot in all the screensaver installed by default, what can be the pb with this screensaver ?
[10:52] <StephenL> globe: no problem
[10:52] <idigital> crimsun < how to check my motherboad? lspnp -v?
[10:52] <captain_laredo> phaedra: The drive was working for a while.  I copied some MP3s...etc...but now I'm getting a message "Unable to mount device...mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist"
[10:53] <crimsun_> idigital: no, you need to reboot and check the bios settings
[10:53] <stefg> khaled83: now type 'grub' in the terminal that's chrooted to your ubuntu-partition
[10:53] <idigital> so i have to check if pnp is enable or [ok] 
[10:53] <idigital> rite
[10:53] <crimsun_> idigital: correct.
[10:53] <captain_laredo> phaedra: I tried rebooting, no dice
[10:53] <korupt> does anyone know what package provides Mono.Unix??
[10:53] <stefg> khaled83: you'll get a grub-prompt
[10:53] <khaled83> stefg, ok i got "grub>
[10:53] <idigital> brb
[10:54] <khaled83> stefg, yea
[10:54] <sports_fan> ii'm looking for the actual package name for x11 libarary. can you guys (gals) help me ?
[10:54] <stefg> khaled83: find /boot/grub/stage1
[10:54] <lovloss> there might as well not be an #eclipse. Does anyone here know what it means when eclipse wont load, because: "Error notifying a preference change listener"?
[10:54] <ragnar_123> one really quick: what is the command for untarring a .tar.gz tarball in konsole?
[10:54] <sports_fan> tar -zxvf <filename>
[10:54] <stefg> khaled83: should come up with hd0,10
[10:54] <StephenL> ragnar_1213: tar -zxvf file
[10:54] <ragnar_123> thanks you!
[10:54] <phaedra> captain_laredo,  Hmmm...  Were you using nautilus or another file manager to copy?  Were you copying to the symlink for the device or /dev/hdc?
[10:55] <khaled83> stefg, Error 15: file not found
[10:55] <stefg> ooops
[10:55] <globe> what is the name of the wireless applet that comes with eft?
[10:55] <fraganator> Is there a way to remove the 'sudo' and make it like a normal cli?
[10:55] <globe> fraganator: sudo -s
[10:56] <StephenL> fraganator: sudo -i
[10:56] <stefg> khaled83: then type ' root (hd0)'
[10:56] <captain_laredo> phaedra:  I was using Nautilus....I even tried starting ubuntu from the Live CD, but the BIOS is now not recognizing the Drive...In BIOS setup it's listed as "Unknown Device"
[10:56] <captain_laredo> or Unknown Drive
[10:56] <magic_ninja> whats the python library package name
[10:56] <captain_laredo> something like that
[10:56] <stefg> khaled83: then type ' find /boot/grub/stage1' again
[10:56] <kane77> is it possible to install stuff running the live cd?
[10:56] <khaled83> stefg, Error 21: selected disk doesn't exist
[10:56] <sports_fan> no x11 - Install x-windows development headers/libraries   <---which packe is that please ?
[10:57] <livingdaylight> are the forums down?
[10:57] <Jamo> how do I map a ubuntu folder on my windows
[10:57] <sports_fan> gogle samba
[10:57] <sports_fan> google*
[10:57] <Jamo> samba eh
[10:57] <proqesi> !smb | Jamo
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <stefg> khaled83: what program did you use to split the win-partitions?
[10:57] <Jamo> likes like a painful anal probe
[10:57] <sports_fan> it is a pain to configure
[10:57] <magic_ninja> !python | magic_ninja
[10:57] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[10:58] <proqesi> hmm
[10:58] <kane77> livingdaylight, nah... I can see them...
[10:58] <proqesi> !samba
[10:58] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:58] <korupt> !mono
[10:58] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[10:58] <sports_fan> !x-windows
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-windows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <korupt> !mono.unix
[10:58] <khaled83> stefg, i am not sure, i think partion magic or something like that
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono.unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <livingdaylight> kane77, its ok now, thx
[10:58] <sports_fan> !x11
[10:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:58] <khaled83> stefg, do u think i will have to reinstall the system?
[10:58] <phaedra> captain_laredo,  Okay...  That sounds like a hardware problem...  If the live cd can't recognize it and the bios has it as unknown try to get it back into the bios listing.
[10:58] <korupt> does anyone know the package that provides mono.unix?
[10:58] <matos> hello!!
[10:59] <kane77> is it possible to install stuff running the live cd?
[10:59] <un_operateur1> have you tried searching for mono.unix via apt-cache/aptitude?
[10:59] <captain_laredo> phaedra...thanks...I'll try that again...I'm not sure what I can do besides disconnecting the drive and connecting it again...
[10:59] <matos> the subtitle option on xdvdshrink is disabled, any help?
[11:00] <korupt> un_operateur1: many many times
[11:00] <phaedra> captain_laredo,  It might be a lose connection.  Try that but it won't operate properly until the bios can get it setup.
[11:00] <phaedra> s lose/loose
[11:01] <stefg> khaled83: No.. you just have to adjust the /etc/fstab of your installed system to reflect the new partition-layout, and then get grub back in conditition.  Type 'exit' at tze grub-prompt and then try 'sudo grub-install' in your chrooted terminal
[11:01] <sports_fan> no x11 - Install x-windows development headers/libraries   <---which packe is that please ?
[11:01] <un_operateur1> korupt, I've never come across a package by that name -- what does it do? i might be able to help if you tell me more about it's functionality
[11:01] <captain_laredo> phaedra...yeah...I'll check that out....It's just weird...the Drive opens and closes and acts like it's reading the CD...but I still get that message...Oh well...I'll figure it out eventually...THanks :)
[11:01] <x06vh-ubuntu> Hur dos-formaterar man en 1.44" diskett i Ubuntu?
[11:01] <age6racer> 
[11:01] <Wilco991> hello all
[11:02] <Wilco991> what's up?
[11:02] <un_operateur1> sports_fan, perhaps --libx11
[11:02] <un_operateur1> or something along those lines
[11:02] <phaedra> captain_laredo,  That's just the drive...  It can do that; act like there's nothing wrong.
[11:02] <sports_fan> can't find package
[11:02] <Wilco991> Edgy has support for most wacom tablet pcs right?
[11:03] <un_operateur1> libx11-6 and libx11-dev
[11:03] <sports_fan> does search support wildcards?
[11:03] <Fletch229_> hey anybody know how to disable the boot screen
[11:03] <age6racer> my eth1 won't activate - can anyone help me out here? Ubuntu dapper, Linksys WPC54G (Broadcom)
[11:03] <idigital> everything said ok
[11:03] <captain_laredo> thanks phadra....thanks #ubuntu residents! :)
[11:03] <un_operateur1> sports_fan, it depends how you are searching
[11:03] <idigital> in when i restarted
[11:03] <ady> anybody got any good linux orientated themes for Ubuntu
[11:03] <Wilco991> check out Gnome-look.org
[11:03] <un_operateur1> aptitude supports regular expressions
[11:03] <stefg> Fletch229_: sudo aptitude remove usplash
[11:03] <Wilco991> for themes I mean
[11:03] <ady> cheers
[11:03] <Fletch229_> thanks
[11:04] <un_operateur1> linux oriented themes for ubuntu :)) are ubuntu's themes not linuxy enough?
[11:04] <sports_fan> libx11-dev seems to be working
[11:04] <Wilco991> lol
[11:04] <idigital> crimsun_ everything said ok
[11:04] <Wilco991> the default one for edgy is impressive
[11:04] <idigital> did see pnp / bios
[11:04] <idigital> But everything aid ok
[11:04] <alexutz> salutttt
[11:04] <alexutz> hy all
[11:04] <alexutz> hy all
[11:05] <aefkei> hey all.
[11:05] <khaled83> stefg, man u know what, i decided i don't want windows on my pc again
[11:05] <matos> the subtitle option on xdvdshrink is disabled, any help?
[11:05] <khaled83> stefg, i am going to reinstall ubuntu and delete windows forever
[11:05] <Maxime> can I load the kernel manually via grub?
[11:05] <stefg> khaled83: wise and future-proof decision :-)
[11:05] <Wilco991> are you sure the dvd you have in has a subtitle track?
[11:05] <aefkei> Is anyone here using wmii-3 tonite ?
[11:05] <khaled83> stefg, but i need ur help in something
[11:06] <stefg> khaled83: make a backup of your system as it is now... you can reuse a lot of your settings then
[11:06] <khaled83> stefg, i have 160 GB hard disk, what is the best partitions layout i should make
[11:06] <sheriff> im using dapper also gdesklet with starterbar but does gdesklet have to stay next to the watch? Also would you recommend another dock ?
[11:06] <dreamlinux> configure: error: *** No X11!  Install X-Windows development headers/libraries! ***
[11:06] <matos> Wilco991 i'm sure of that i've already saw it on kaffeine
[11:06] <sports_fan> thats my error msg
[11:07] <khaled83> stefg, i have external usb harddisk and i will back up my system
[11:07] <Wilco991> hmmm
[11:07] <matos> i've installed it by the install script
[11:07] <un_operateur1> dreamer, maybe you need x11-common too
[11:07] <idigital> crimsun_ u there
[11:07] <idigital> are u there
[11:07] <khaled83> stefg, i have 160 GB hard disk, what is the best partitions layout i should make
[11:07] <dreamlinux> i will try it too
[11:07] <crimsun_> idigital: what does "everything says ok" mean?
[11:08] <un_operateur1> khaled83, it depends -- do you intend to have user data on that HDD??
[11:08] <SoulBrother> I have an ancient computer and I was trying to setup ubuntu on it but when in installing I get a message stating: unable to mount cd-rom??
[11:08] <johns^> khaled83: desktop system? 7GB /, swap and the rest /home
[11:08] <johns^> :)
[11:08] <khaled83> stefg, no only me
[11:08] <brady_> Where do I report a packaging problem?
[11:08] <dreamer> un_operateur1: no i don't
[11:08] <stefg> khaled83: my suggestion would be: hda1: 10 G root (/),hda2:  2G /var,hda3:  512 MB swap, hda5 (logical) /home.. all the remaining space.
[11:08] <pike_> khaled83: i always make home seperate and leave like 2 8-10g paritions one for / one blank for installing new versions /
[11:08] <Maxime> stefg: can I load the kernel manually via grub?
[11:08] <idigital> I haven't able to located the "PNP or BIOS" but when i restarted the computer and ubutu showed everything ok
[11:09] <idigital> network [ok]  , ... etc [ok] 
[11:09] <dsnyders> Hi all.  There used to be a program called sweep to execute the same command in every subdirectory.  What is the equivalent?
[11:09] <dreamlinux> common did not solve my problem either
[11:09] <crimsun_> idigital: but did you load the sound driver?
[11:09] <Megaqwerty> when will the new OpenOffice.Org be available in the repository?
[11:09] <monkey050-Ubuntu> New question:  I can't get Rhythmbox to play *anything*.  I just installed all the codecs the "easy way" in the terminal and it won't play Mp3s or a Podcast I added.
[11:09] <pianoboy3333> Megaqwerty: feisty
[11:09] <khaled83> ok guys thank you for the help
[11:09] <Megaqwerty> pianoboy3333:are you serioius?
[11:09] <Wilco991> have you tried easy-ubuntu or automatix2 to install codecs?
[11:09] <stefg> Maxime: grub is a pree-boot command environment. you can edit all the lines grub uses to boot the kernel, but of course cant load the kernel 'manually'
[11:09] <idigital> before i type in terminal : modprobe snd-card-cmi8330
[11:09] <pianoboy3333> Megaqwerty: yes
[11:10] <un_operateur1> dreamer, but did you install libx11-6 or thereabouts tho?
[11:10] <Megaqwerty> pianoboy3333: how far off is that?
[11:10] <pianoboy3333> Megaqwerty: what version are you using now?
[11:10] <dreamlinux> um, prolly not. i'm still trying out the base system
[11:10] <Megaqwerty> pianoboy3333: Edgy
[11:10] <pianoboy3333> ubotu: please tell Megaqwerty about feisty
[11:10] <ady> how do I install a theme in Gnome
[11:10] <dreamer> un_operateur1: you don't mean me but dreamlinux :P
[11:10] <pianoboy3333> Megaqwerty: you will probably be able to use the fiesty packages when they are released into feisty, you just download the debs from packages.ubuntu.com/fiesty
[11:11] <un_operateur1> sorry dreamer :) my bad
[11:11] <pike_> art.gnome.org has themes and howtos
[11:11] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Again, how do I get rhythmbox to work properly?
[11:11] <Megaqwerty> pianoboy3333: thanks
[11:11] <idigital> how i load a sound card ? load in terminal?
[11:11] <ady> how do I install a theme in Gnome
[11:11] <stefg> Maxime: my first guess would be a line with 'acpi=off noapic nolapic' in it to see if it boots then
[11:11] <dreamlinux> i have the latest version acording to apt-get
[11:11] <un_operateur1> dreamlinux, aptitude install libx11-6 libx11-dev
[11:11] <pianoboy3333> Megaqwerty: they may be there now, I have no idea
[11:11] <johns^> ady: install gnome-art
[11:11] <dreamlinux> un_operateur1,  : i have both of those now
[11:11] <Megaqwerty> I'll check...
[11:12] <pianoboy3333> Megaqwerty: lemme help you
[11:12] <idigital> Right now i type in modprobe snd-cmi8330
[11:12] <pianoboy3333> !info openoffice.org feisty
[11:12] <sheriff> im using dapper also gdesklet with starterbar but does gdesklet have to stay next to the watch? Also would you recommend another dock ?
[11:12] <Megaqwerty> pianoboy3333: Thanks
[11:12] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[11:12] <pianoboy3333> lol
[11:12] <idigital> saying operation not permitted
[11:12] <Megaqwerty> grr
[11:12] <pianoboy3333> doesn't say...
[11:12] <Shaba1> StephenL you reccommended I look up rc--what?
[11:12] <Megaqwerty> it's at 2.1 right now
[11:12] <justin420> hi all. anybody have problems with gnome after updating the kernel vuln. that required a restart? i cant seem to right click on my desktop background anymore since the upgrade on the kernel. anybody have any ideas?
[11:12] <pianoboy3333> Megaqwerty: isn't that the new version...?
[11:12] <dsnyders> How do I automatically run the same command in each sub-folder?
[11:13] <un_operateur1> dreamlinux, are you trying to build something?
[11:13] <Megaqwerty> pianoboy3333: yes, I'm saying that that is what I need
[11:13] <khaled83> stefg, how can i unmount the mounted partition
[11:13] <stefg> sudo umount -a
[11:13] <Faintofhearts> I have a question about drivers. I am trying to tun Quake 3, but it's horribly laggy, and my hardware should be able to handle it. Even after I have downloaded drivers it won't run correctly. Anyone know how I can get my video card working at max performance?
[11:13] <dreamlinux> i am attempting to build Xastir.
[11:13] <StephenL> shaba1: /etc/rc.local just put whatever commands you want to run in that file
[11:13] <pianoboy3333> Megaqwerty: oh, I know
[11:13] <un_operateur1> dsnyders, for i in `find /path/to/dir`; do command $i; done;
[11:13] <un_operateur1> maybe
[11:13] <Shaba1> thanks StephenL. Its a whole lot more complicated then just commands but that give me a start'
[11:13] <stefg> Faintofhearts: facts! what hardware?
[11:14] <jrib> dsnyders: or   find -exec
[11:14] <Faintofhearts> stefg: I have a 32MB Intel chip... 810 something if I remember correctly.
[11:14] <StephenL> shaba1: what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:14] <un_operateur1> dreamlinux, maybe you could do this ..
[11:14] <khaled83> guys, how can i unmnt a mounted partition?
[11:14] <un_operateur1> apt-get build-dep xastir
[11:14] <jrib> khaled83: umount /mount/point
[11:14] <un_operateur1> that should find and install deps
[11:14] <Megaqwerty> pianoboy3333: I'll have to search the net for a .deb package :(
[11:15] <dsnyders> un_operateur1, thanks for the pointer.  You too, jrib
[11:15] <un_operateur1> np :)
[11:15] <stefg> Faintofhearts: That isn't hardware 3D capable... no fun
[11:15] <idigital> crimsun_ you mention to me before > did I load a sound card ?how do you load it? in terminal?
[11:15] <pianoboy3333> Megaqwerty: ok
[11:15] <dreamer> anybody here know of 77 million paintings?
[11:15] <dreamer> brian eno's new project
[11:15] <Shaba1> Ok I have a Win2k network. I am being donated 15 blank HD machines and an ubuntu cd.
[11:15] <dreamer> I gat an iso of the windows-version, got it installed with wine, but damn does it run badly ;/
[11:15] <Faintofhearts> stefg: It was able to run Quake on Windows without a problem.
[11:15] <Faintofhearts> So I know the hardware is capable.
[11:15] <dreamer> Shaba1: donated huh? :)
[11:16] <Shaba1> I need to find some way of NOT letting users get to the desktop even to use the machines unless they are verified by my win2k AD server.
[11:16] <StephenL> shaba1: start here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91510.html
[11:17] <Shaba1> Hell they are free and we are a non profit so I am not going to look a gift horse in the mousth
[11:17] <stefg> Faintofhearts: DirectX isn't OpenGL.... the stock i810 driver that came with the default install is just fine, but all hardware 3D is only emulated by mesa...  I doubt that Ianybody in here can give you tuning tips for i810 graphics in /here/ , but there's specialized forums on the web on that
[11:17] <eilker> i see my desktop in 2 minutes 45 seconds, dual boot xp and kubuntu, i have lamp,ftp,dhcp,samba,cups,vmware,dns servers, is it normal ?
[11:18] <khaled83> stefg, should the root partition be a primary partition/
[11:18] <khaled83> stefg, should the root partition be a primary partition?
[11:18] <johns^> eilker: I think that's slow
[11:18] <mralphabet> eilker: how much ram / what is processor speed?
[11:18] <rickest> anyone know if http://packages.freecontrib.org is just temporarily down or gone altogether?  any other plf repositories?
[11:18] <stefg> khaled83: that's irrelevant for linux, but a good measure to keep everything in an ordered manner
[11:19] <defrex> I'm having trouble.. x is crashing mid-way through gnome starting. Can anyone give me a hand?
[11:19] <eilker> mralphabet: p4 2.4 and 512 ram
[11:19] <khaled83> stefg, this means yes, right?
[11:19] <Shaba1> Right now I have systems policies set so that the user turns on the machine and it gives him a dialog box to enter a user name and password. That is then verified against the users and groups I have set up on the win2k server. Once verified a logon.bat files then runs a kicktart script the user then gets a different desktop and permission to files on the server based on which group he/she is in.
[11:19] <Faintofhearts> stefg: It should be possible though, correct? I mean, I have had it running on this machine before, with this exact hardware. Any idea what I could be missing that keeps it from working properly?
[11:19] <stefg> khaled83: yes, that's yes :-)
[11:20] <Shaba1> So I am wanting to get these new machines that arrive monday to do that same thing
[11:20] <userek> how can i disable cups daemon?
[11:20] <abo> hi, I have all the video working under the K desktop but not under gnome, I have obviously all codecs installed, any ideas?
[11:20] <Crazyl1nk> i need help
[11:20] <userek> when i want to uninstal cups
[11:20] <Shaba1> YES I know about samba but that goes the other way.
[11:20] <userek> it wants to uinstall ubuntu-desktop
[11:20] <stefg> Faintofhearts: as I said... DirectX
[11:20] <Shaba1> Letting windows machines talk to linux file shares. I want it the other way around.
[11:20] <pike_> defrex: first thing "rm -fr ~/.g*"  maybe
[11:20] <Faintofhearts> stefg: Downloadable on Linux?
[11:20] <Faintofhearts> I wasn't sure.
[11:20] <StephenL> shaba1: no it does both
[11:20] <stefg> Faintofhearts: beware... no
[11:20] <mralphabet> eilker: with p4 2.8 and 2gb ram I am at desktop in ~1min . . . what is the memory usage on your machine?
[11:20] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Can someone help me figure out how to get Rhythmbox to work?
[11:20] <khaled83> stefg, and the rest should i choose primary or extended?
[11:20] <Crazyl1nk> i need help setting up my router for static IPs
[11:20] <Faintofhearts> No...
[11:20] <monkey050-Ubuntu> Rhythmbox won't play ANYTHING.
[11:21] <mralphabet> Shaba1: samba goes both ways
[11:21] <defrex> pike_: I'm using a live cd atm... should I giver witht hat anyway?
[11:21] <mralphabet> Shaba1: look at smbmount
[11:21] <idigital> crimsun_?
[11:21] <Faintofhearts> So... I will need to find something to replace DirectX...
[11:21] <idigital> how ?
[11:21] <mralphabet> !smbmount
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <mralphabet> bah ;(
[11:21] <justin420> anybody have problems have with gnome after upgrading the recent kernl vuln? i cant right click on my desktop; im that damn close to reinstalling windows as my primary OS; which i really dont want to do, any ideas anyone?
[11:22] <pike_> defrex: well youd mount your ubuntu parition and then rm -fr /media/mountpoint/home/username/.g*
[11:22] <stefg> khaled83: i'll keep my system partitons ( /var and swap) primary, and my data-partitions (/home, /media ) logical. But that's just an arbitrary convention
[11:22] <leny> !biarch
[11:22] <ubotu> A BiArch 64-bit system is one that comes with a complete 32-bit package system, as well. This means that you can run 32bit packages as well on your 64-bit install
[11:22] <Jako> Hey
[11:22] <defrex> roger
[11:22] <Jako> Bus-ID what is that?
[11:22] <Crazyl1nk> i need help setting up my router for static IPs
[11:22] <eyalw> hi, i've got a problem connecting to mySQL through php on apache
[11:22] <eilker> mralphabet: at the moment % 68 is free
[11:23] <khaled83> stefg, ok thanks, the last question hopefully, i was once told that the swap partition should be equal to my ram, is this true?
[11:23] <eyalw> Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[11:23] <eyalw> Warning: Unknown: Failed opening '/var/www/apache2-default/create_users_table.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[11:23] <stefg> khaled83: oh... wait /media is already used ... errrr call it /multimedia
[11:23] <sports_fan> unfortunatly none of these ideas have solvced my issue. thanks for the effort guys.
[11:23] <crimsun_> idigital: yes, with the command I gave you before
[11:23] <magic_ninja> anyone in here use cedega
[11:23] <Shaba1> did I lose you StephenL?
[11:23] <stefg> khaled83: nowaday all rules of thumb fail miserably... how much ram do you have?
[11:24] <StephenL> shaba1: no im just reading several different things at once
[11:24] <defrex> pike_: uh, sorry, how do I mount the drive?
[11:24] <idigital> i did with "snd-cmi8330"but now its saying bash: snd-cmi8330: command not found
[11:24] <khaled83> stefg, 1G
[11:24] <Crazyl1nk> i need help setting up my router for static IPs
[11:25] <AngryElf> could someone in here who has a XP/ubuntu dual boot be so kind as to pastebin their /boot/grub/menu.lst for me?
[11:25] <stefg> khaled83: so you'll never use more than 256 MB of swap (or you are in a very special situation) call it 512 MB swap...
[11:25] <kane77> i have ubuntu installed on a disk partition. on the same disk there's a windows partition (fat32). How can I decrease the Fat32 size and increase my linux partition???
[11:25] <mralphabet> Shaba1: have you looked at smbmount before?
[11:25] <khaled83> stefg, ok
[11:26] <leny> Is this the right place to ask if Edgy ever made BiArch for x86 and if so how to (practically) install 32-bit libraries etc.
[11:26] <pike_> defrex: well id just reboot into my computer and when x crashed alt-ctrl-f2 then login then type rm -fr ~/.g*  then alt-ctrl-f7 to get back to x
[11:26] <jtrejo> hi
[11:26] <mralphabet> Shaba1: you can also look at sshfs
[11:26] <jtrejo> I need wireless help badly:(
[11:26] <idigital> crimsum what the command was $ snd-cmi8330
[11:26] <idigital> correct
[11:26] <defrex> pike_: will do...
[11:27] <kane77> jtrejo, what's up?
[11:27] <jtrejo> is anyone here [intimately]  familar with peap+WEP
[11:27] <jtrejo> :(?
[11:27] <Crazyl1nk> i need help setting up my router for static IPs
[11:28] <michaelmacleod> I'm having an issue where ubuntu keeps changing my 2nd network card between eth1 and eth2 when the system reboots
[11:28] <aefkei> back. Hey'a.
[11:28] <leny> jtrejo: Sorry stuck with WiFi on my Powerbook  :-)
[11:28] <mralphabet> eilker: if that is really your memory usage, then it seems long to get to the gnome desktop
[11:28] <brucedes> I'm trying to install 6.10 on my macbook on an external USB Drive. I've got rEFIt installed, but I want to know if there is a way of not installing grub
[11:28] <david___> hi
[11:28] <david___> it's jtrejo
[11:28] <david___> sorry
[11:28] <david___> my other pc rebooted
[11:28] <david___> stupid windows
[11:28] <david___> actualyl it was the powercord:o
[11:28] <david___> this is the linux machine
[11:28] <pike_> michaelmacleod: its setup in /etc/iftab?
[11:28] <david___> so I can psot config files and the like
[11:29] <bimberi> AngryElf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37058/  (actually a tri-boot: Dapper, XP, Edgy)
[11:29] <Shaba1> mralphabet thank you right now I am gettin all the information I can.
[11:29] <stefg> brucedes: intel or ppc
[11:29] <brucedes> intel
[11:29] <brucedes> macbooks are intel
[11:29] <AngryElf> bimberi, thanx a bunch
[11:29] <zero> #ubuntu
[11:29] <mike1980> hi guys when i do this command mysql> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, INDEX, ALTER, CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES, LOCK TABLES ON database1.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword';  I get error ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ON database1. *  TO 'mike'@'localhos
[11:29] <stefg> ah... 'cos ppc uses elilo IMHO
[11:29] <zero> alguien espaol ??
[11:29] <david___> anyone know an ircchannel that would be good for complex wireless configs?
[11:29] <david___> yesI sopeak spanish
[11:29] <david___> yo hablo espanol
[11:30] <ompaul> david___, ehh please stop using the enter key in the place of a comma, please
[11:30] <johns^> mike1980: lose the '
[11:30] <ompaul> "es
[11:30] <zero> ok
[11:30] <johns^> username@localhost
[11:30] <idigital> crimsun_?
[11:30] <ompaul> !es
[11:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:30] <stefg> brucedes: sorry Intel macs are out of my scope... did some ppc installs, but never had an intel-mac in front of me
[11:30] <peregrine81> okay guys you are the experts heres a question. Will the ATI Mobility Xpress 200m ever be supported or will I have to use binaries that dont quiet -work-?
[11:30] <idigital> crimsum what the command was $ snd-cmi8330 correct but i recived bash: snd-cmi8330: command not found
[11:30] <johns^> select .... to user@localhost identified by 'password'
[11:30] <AngryElf> the "root		(hd0,0)" in menu.lst -- that refers to (hd<hard disk number>,<partition number>)  yes?
[11:30] <mike1980> johns: ok thanks
[11:30] <leny> brucedes: You can use the Alternate install CD to install grub to a place other than the MBR, i.e. your Linux partitiion. Would that do?
[11:31] <brucedes> It should do, yes
[11:31] <stefg> AngryElf: yes... but minus 1
[11:31] <kane77> i have ubuntu installed on a disk partition. on the same disk there's a windows partition (fat32). How can I decrease the Fat32 size and increase my linux partition???
[11:31] <brucedes> I considered doing it leny
[11:31] <zero> alguien me echa una mano ???
[11:31] <zero> necesito un poco de ayuda
[11:31] <bruenig> !es
[11:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:31] <david___> kane77 qtparted
[11:31] <stefg> AngryElf: (hd0,0) in grub-speak is /dev/hda1
[11:31] <AngryElf> cool
[11:32] <kane77> david___, will I lose my data on the fat32 partition??
[11:32] <peregrine81> nothing?
[11:32] <david___> no
[11:32] <AngryElf> is there any reason I can't take a HD from another box that is strictly XP and throw it in my box as slave and then set up grub with (hd1,0) ???
[11:32] <michaelmacleod> Does anyone here know why Ubuntu might be making my 2nd ethernet card oscillate between eth1 and eth2 when the system reboots? It's causing my PPPoE connection a lot of grief.
[11:32] <brucedes> Also, how do I connect to my wireless network? I put the SSID and WEP password in the network manager, but it doesn't work (In OS X now)
[11:32] <tarzeau> michaelmacleod: it's a linux kernel thing
[11:32] <mike1980> johns: still didn't work
[11:33] <tarzeau> michaelmacleod: i've got the same on a ultra5
[11:33] <cafuego_> michaelmacleod: /etc/iftab is a way to make it not do that
[11:33] <sorush20> have the ubuntu servers for the packages slowed down?
[11:33] <idigital> crimsum what the command was $ snd-cmi8330 correct but i recived bash: snd-cmi8330: command not found
[11:33] <michaelmacleod> tarzeau: It's a PowerMacG4, if that makes a difference.
[11:33] <_Staz> Hi, whats the correct way to switch users in gnome terminal.
[11:33] <tarzeau> michaelmacleod: no idea, mine's a sparc
[11:33] <Orangekid13> anyone know how to set up the resolution for widescreen? i've got a 1440x900 that looks retarded cause it's being forced to 1024x768
[11:33] <stefg> AngryElf: The problem is taht the bios will only look for the /first/ harddisk to find a MBR...
[11:33] <deep> !mrt
[11:33] <deep> !t
[11:33] <ubotu> mrt: Multi-threaded Routing Toolkit (BGP4+/BGP/RIPng/RIP2). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2a-3 (edgy), package size 738 kB, installed size 1852 kB
[11:33] <tarzeau> cafuego_: what if you have the same mac address on the interfaces?
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <deep> @t
[11:34] <deep> hm
[11:34] <tarzeau> cafuego_: like quad cards on sparc do that by default
[11:34] <bimberi> _Staz: 'sudo su - anotheruser' is my method
[11:34] <AngryElf> stefg, which is fine -- i'm going to include the XP install in GRUB so I can select it....right?
[11:34] <cafuego_> tarzeau: ugh, broken hardware
[11:34] <tarzeau> cafuego_: no, it's not broken
[11:34] <tarzeau> cafuego_: it CAN be changed
[11:34] <_Staz> thanks bimberi
[11:34] <mike1980> hi guys when i do this command mysql> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, INDEX, ALTER, CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES, LOCK TABLES ON database1.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword';  I get error ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ON database1. *  TO 'mike'@'localhos
[11:34] <AngryElf> stefg, hence the (hd1,0) setup...
[11:34] <cafuego_> tarzeau: Then I suggest plugging 'em all in and using the bonding interface
[11:34] <we2by> edgy is very bugy here. I got a few weird issues :(
[11:34] <tarzeau> cafuego_: haha :) k
[11:35] <stefg> AngryElf: Grub is only called and seen by the bios if it's on hd_a_ ... hdb or hdc won't work if hda is present
[11:35] <Seveas> mike1980, #mysql may be more appropriate for such questions
[11:35] <mike1980> ok thanks
[11:35] <AngryElf> stefg, grub will be on hda -- XP will be on hdb
[11:35] <michaelmacleod> tarzeau: thanks, I think that should do the trick
[11:35] <ompaul> mike1980, put that in a pastebin before you do - it looks trunkcated
[11:35] <kane77> a second (stupid) question... how do I go about using the qparted? cuz as far as I know you have to unmount the disks you want to change
[11:35] <stefg> AngryElf: then you're good to go
[11:35] <AngryElf> sweet
[11:35] <AngryElf> thanx
[11:35] <leny> brucedes: Sorry stuck with WiFi myself.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows should help you in installing grub to a non-standard partition. Use (hd0,<linux partition no>) in the examples.
[11:35] <crimsun_> idigital: sudo modprobe snd-cmi8330
[11:36] <brucedes> I'll go try
[11:36] <stefg> AngryElf: grub-survivor lines: find /boot/grub/stage1... root (hd0,0) .... setup (hd0)
[11:36] <Orangekid13> nobody knows how to make widescreen look good?
[11:36] <Orangekid13> 1440x900
[11:36] <Orangekid13> please tell me i can do it
[11:36] <ompaul> !resolution
[11:36] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:36] <khaled83> stefg, i am now deleting windows and installing ubuntu
[11:37] <brucedes> could you be more specific orangekid?
[11:37] <astronouth7303> sound isn't working at all. all the appropriate levels seem to be up, nothing muted, hardware seems ok. But I can't hear a thing. How do I track it down and fix it?
[11:37] <dcordes> !bcm43xx
[11:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:37] <Orangekid13> i have a widescreen monitor... it's 1440x900
[11:37] <crimsun_> astronouth7303: pastebin your ``amixer'' output and tell me the URL.
[11:37] <astronouth7303> (it used to work ... occasionally)
[11:37] <ompaul> !resolution | Orangekid13
[11:37] <ubotu> Orangekid13: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:37] <Orangekid13> i want it to be anything but forced to be 1024x768
[11:37] <Orangekid13> wtf is with the ! and the |
[11:37] <prower> Hello everyone :> How easy is it to upgrade between an installation of Dapper and Eft? Or more importantly, do I even want to be attempting that in the first place? ;>
[11:37] <Orangekid13> ?
[11:37] <magic_ninja> how do i changed my default shell to bash instead of dash
[11:38] <brucedes> you tried setting the resolution to 1220x800? That's what my macbook uses, it looks nice
[11:38] <ompaul> Orangekid13, it is me instructing the bot to tell you the answer to your question
[11:38] <kane77> a second (stupid) question... how do I go about using the qparted? cuz as far as I know you have to unmount the disks you want to change... but I cant unmount my root partition
[11:38] <Shaba1> am I correct in assuming that burning a ubuntu image onto a CD DOES NOT neccessarily make it a LIVECD?
[11:38] <khaled83> :)
[11:38] <Orangekid13> oh
[11:38] <idigital> FATAL: Error inserting snd_cmi8330 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-cmi8330.ko): No such device
[11:38] <idigital> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_cmi8330
[11:39] <bimberi> Shaba1: it depends which image, so yes
[11:39] <astronouth7303> crimsun_, it's being slow...
[11:39] <Everflex> is it a bad idea to index the root derectory?
[11:39] <crimsun_> astronouth7303: so use another one of the hundreds.
[11:39] <Orangekid13> the only resolutions i can choose are not 16x9 aspect ratio
[11:39] <n2diy> How do I get Firefox to default to Thunderbird, instead of Evolution, when I click on a "mail to" link?
[11:39] <tarzeau> n2diy: hehe :)
[11:39] <stefg> Shaba1: all CD's labeled #Desktop' are Live-CD's ... al 'Alternat'-CD's use a textmode installer
[11:39] <bruenig> n2diy, system>preferences>preferred applications
[11:39] <age6racer> Hi all, I am running ubuntu with xfce and I just clicked somethng named 'SMB network browser' now my desktop has turned black and I have some icons on the desktop (didn't before)
[11:40] <age6racer> I cant get rid if it. Does anyone know what's happening?
[11:40] <khaled83> stefg, i understand when u told me that it is a wise decision, but what did u mean by future proof decision? if u r busy u donna have to answer i am just chitchatting until the system is installed
[11:40] <idigital> crimsun
[11:40] <idigital> its say
[11:40] <idigital> FATAL: Error inserting snd_cmi8330 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-cmi8330.ko): No such device
[11:40] <idigital> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_cmi8330
[11:40] <eyalw> i need help with php-mysql
[11:40] <dcordes> are the broadcom 43xx interfaces supported out of the box?
[11:40] <Shaba1> stefg you mean when I burn the .iso file onto the cd I should give it a lable of #DESKTOP?
[11:41] <david_corrales> hi everyone. Anyone else getting grub's error #15 after the kernel upgrade?
[11:41] <ompaul> age6racer, log out and log back in if that fails call back
[11:41] <stefg> khaled83: that was just a cynical comment on the hardware-requiremnts of Windows Vista... We don't need 1 Gig of Ram just for the OS, without any app running
[11:41] <magic_ninja> anyone had cedega problems with ubuntu
[11:41] <stefg> Shaba1: no... what's the name of the .iso you downloaded?
[11:41] <age6racer> I tried that already. It saved my session settings   :/
[11:41] <Shaba1> Hold on I will check
[11:42] <ompaul> magic_ninja, those who do speak with cegeda, generally it is not supported here
[11:42] <khaled83> stefg, ah u right, vista requirements are crazy
[11:42] <monkey050> I just downloaded and installed all the available updates for 6.10 and the menu\taskbar froze.
[11:42] <crimsun_> idigital: you need to find out whether your bios has PNP OS enabled
[11:42] <Shaba1> stefg: ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso"
[11:43] <wyld> david_corrales: I belive that it is a hardware problem
[11:43] <Shadow_mil> how can I compile a kernel?
[11:43] <tarzeau> Shadow_mil: i'd use kernel-package
[11:43] <wyld> carefully
[11:43] <Shadow_mil> how do I use it?
[11:43] <stefg> Shaba1: Then you have a Live-CD :-) burn it, boot it, love it :-)
[11:43] <david_corrales> wyld: not really. Everything -but- edgy is booting now
[11:43] <david_corrales> stupid upgrade
[11:43] <Shaba1> thanks
[11:43] <khaled83> guys, is it true that the next ubuntu release will mainly focus on solving laptop hardware problems???
[11:43] <Shadow_mil> tarzeau: I downloaded it
[11:43] <monkey050> Is there a way I can reboot without using the menu?
[11:43] <Shaba1> can you refer me to a place where I can then get instructions on how to install that on a HD?
[11:43] <david_corrales> khaled83: not really. It'll probably focus a lot on eye candy
[11:44] <Shadow_mil> monkey050: init 0
[11:44] <stefg> monkey050: sudo reboot in a terminal
[11:44] <monkey050> How do I get to it?
[11:44] <Shadow_mil> or init 6 (for a reboot)
[11:44] <monkey050> I can't get to the Applications menu
[11:44] <bruenig> sudo shutdown -r now
[11:44] <age6racer> OK I've fixed it. it was a process called xff-deskvier or something like that.
[11:44] <Shadow_mil> monkey050: terminal,
[11:44] <bimberi> Shaba1: boot the LiveCD and double-click on the Install icon on the Desktop
[11:44] <stefg> monkey050: alt-f2... enter gksudo reboot
[11:44] <kincade> how do I login as root?
[11:44] <monkey050> Ok
[11:44] <governator> ok, i installed freespire then ubuntu... they are on sepeprate hds... how to access hd with freespire on it?
[11:44] <monkey050> Terminal won't open.
[11:44] <idigital> How do i find out whether your bios has PNP OS enabled?
[11:44] <idigital> I restarted
[11:45] <stefg> !root > kincade
[11:45] <monkey050> Is installing updates supposed to make things freeze?
[11:45] <khaled83> david_corrales, also a good point, but it dream of the day that i can run ubuntu on my toshiba laptop smoothly
[11:45] <idigital> and my computers go striaght to ubunutu loading...
[11:45] <kincade> do that at the login screen?
[11:45] <edison> hi
[11:45] <idigital> and i don;t see PNP
[11:45] <governator> ok, i installed freespire then ubuntu... they are on sepeprate hds... how to access hd with freespire on it?
[11:45] <age6racer> Now, can someone help me with my wireless issue pls... I have a linksys WPC54G card (Broadcom) and I have the driver installed correctly. But eth1 doesn't want to activate for some reason
[11:45] <stefg> kincade: no at the login screen there's a menu dwn left
[11:46] <monkey050> Should I do a forced shutdown by holding the button?
[11:46] <idigital> Do you mean plug and play?
[11:46] <governator> ok, i installed freespire then ubuntu... they are on sepeprate hds... how to access hd with freespire on it?
[11:46] <monkey050> Age6Racer, I maybe able to help you.  I just got mine (same card) working today.
[11:46] <idigital> PNP = Plug and play
[11:46] <stefg> monkey050: ctrl-alt-del
[11:46] <erUSUL> governator: mount it, or use System<Admin<Disks
[11:46] <edison> how to mount partition ntfs in ubutun ?
[11:46] <idigital> crimsun_ it does say [ok] 
[11:46] <stefg> !ntfs
[11:46] <jokoon> Hello
[11:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:46] <monkey050> Stefg:  Nothing happens.
[11:46] <kincade> oh ok thanks I'll check it out thanks stefg
[11:46] <erUSUL> !ntfs |edison
[11:46] <ubotu> edison: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:46] <edison> tanks
[11:47] <stefg> monkey050: then a hard reboot... shouldn't hurt if you're only at the gdm login
[11:47] <age6racer> monkey050: wow amazing! yes please!
[11:47] <defrex> is there anyone who can help with an x crashing problem?
[11:47] <jokoon> What is the purpose of the kernel "generic" ? what does it mean ?
[11:47] <edd_> ne1 know how to get sound working in flash
[11:47] <edd_> ?
[11:47] <erUSUL> |anyone
[11:47] <erUSUL> !anyone
[11:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:47] <bimberi> !generic | jokoon
[11:47] <ubotu> jokoon: Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[11:47] <Music_Shuffle> jokoon, the other types were combined to reduce redundancy and save developer time I think.
[11:47] <monkey050> Ok, let met just reboot this thing.  I hope the updates didn't mess with things.
[11:47] <bashir> hey
[11:47] <monkey050> I'm on 2 computers right now.
[11:47] <governator> there is no system>admin>disks........
[11:47] <age6racer> ok
[11:48] <crimsun_> idigital: I'm in a meeting atm, so I can't respond.
[11:48] <bashir> i just upgraded my kernel and it rewrote my grub menu.list !
[11:48] <bashir> it took off my windows parition menu
[11:48] <Uboon2> i'm on a chair, thats more comfortable
[11:48] <bimberi> governator: no, not in Edgy
[11:48] <bashir> and now that i add it it isnt working
[11:48] <governator> then what should i do?
[11:48] <bashir> i added title		Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[11:48] <bashir> root		(hd0,4)
[11:48] <bashir> makeactive
[11:48] <bashir> chainloader	+1
[11:48] <stefg> governator: edgy has a new way of dealing with disks, so the old app didn't work anymore... but the new one isn't ready :-(
[11:49] <erUSUL> governator: sorry my bad there was in dapper (or in breezy... ;)
[11:49] <aboyousif> hello .. anyone here know how to make the nvidia module xorg compiled not xfree ?
[11:49] <dcordes> i have some problems getting my broadcom iface up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37061/ would be very kind if somebody could take a quick look at it. thanks for your help
[11:49] <monkey050> age2racer: My ubuntu's reloading now
[11:49] <prOMiNd> any can help me ..
[11:49] <prOMiNd> i can't install xine-extracodecs ...
[11:49] <jokoon> Does it mean I still can gain performance installing the appropriate kernel ?
[11:49] <prOMiNd> i need source ...
[11:49] <eyalw> my php script dosent recognize mySQL functions, but i installed all the packages
[11:49] <david_corrales> so nobody knows about the error 15 crap?
[11:49] <idigital> crimsun tell me when your not busy
[11:49] <prOMiNd> any have a source and paste here ?
[11:49] <prOMiNd> thx ..
[11:49] <defrex> Everything was running fine until the power to my house went out while I was at work. Whether it had to do with the power or not, I don't know, but now when I'm half way through loading gnome my screen goes multi-colour, then tosses me back to the sign-in screen.
[11:50] <defrex> can anyone help
[11:50] <defrex> ?
[11:50] <monkey050> Sorry, I meant age6racer.
[11:50] <bashir> can someone help me plz
[11:50] <prOMiNd> bashir: for what ? Oo
[11:50] <Music_Shuffle> !ask | bashir
[11:50] <monkey050> Now Ubuntu's loading slow.  I'll be right back.
[11:50] <ubotu> bashir: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:50] <bashir> i did
[11:50] <stefg> jokoon: you won't gain anything... generic means that the old separation of 586/686/k7 is now unified into a self optimizing kernel, which works on all architectures
[11:50] <prOMiNd> LjL: here ? :)
[11:50] <bashir> when i updated the kernel it rewrote my menu.list
[11:50] <Music_Shuffle> Just keeeeeeeeedding.  I knew that. ;p
[11:51] <bashir> it took off my windows parition entry
[11:51] <bashir> i tried entering title		Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[11:51] <bashir> root		(hd0,4)
[11:51] <bashir> makeactive
[11:51] <bashir> chainloader	+1
[11:51] <bashir> to the end
[11:51] <prOMiNd> ubotu, tell about prOMiNd xine
[11:51] <bashir> but it comes up error 12 invalid device
[11:51] <bashir> my partition is hda5
[11:51] <bashir> so (hd0,4) should be right
[11:51] <prOMiNd> ubotu, about prOMiNd xine
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about prOMiNd xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <stefg> !xine > prOMiNd
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <Uboon2> !xine
[11:52] <LTjake> is there a reason why x11-common would be install with edgy server?
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <age6racer> monkey050: here's the results from iwconfig   -    http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/bLNDSu90.html
[11:52] <prOMiNd> !xine-extracodecs
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine-extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <prOMiNd> boys
[11:52] <prOMiNd> ..
[11:52] <jokoon> stefg : so in a way, all kernels that generic replaces can just be removed ?
[11:52] <Uboon2> !ubotu wake up dude
[11:52] <monkey050> Age6racer, are you running 6.10?
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wake up dude - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <stefg> jokoon: basically yes
[11:52] <age6racer> 6.06
[11:53] <monkey050> Hm.
[11:53] <jokoon> That will clean my menu.lst for sure ...
[11:53] <prOMiNd> i can't install xine-iu extracodecs in my Ubuntu 6.10 :9
[11:53] <prOMiNd> any can help me ? Oo
[11:53] <magic_ninja> !cedega | magic_ninja
[11:53] <ubotu> magic_ninja: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:53] <prOMiNd> Craig David - Walking Away
[11:53] <kincade> stefg: hey I checked the menu and nothing that will let me login as root, so do I need to install or enable something?
[11:53] <monkey050> Did you check all the Network-related things in the menu, age6racer?
[11:53] <infidel> anyone here usemint?
[11:53] <infidel> anyone here use mint?
[11:53] <stefg> !root | kincade
[11:53] <ubotu> kincade: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:53] <age6racer> monkey050: I could do with a way to view wireless networks and try connecting to them.
[11:53] <jokoon> Anyhow, is there some utility or command to make a clean menu.lst ?
[11:54] <age6racer> I knwo there are two where I am (which I have acces to)
[11:54] <prOMiNd> ANY CAN HELP ME ?
[11:54] <WizCraker>  do I just run mysqladmin shutdown then run mysqld_safe & to start it again?  I changed the my.cnf file and trying to figure out the correct way for the restart
[11:54] <prOMiNd> Package xine-ui is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:54] <prOMiNd> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:54] <prOMiNd> is only available from another source
[11:54] <prOMiNd> E: Package xine-ui has no installation candidate
[11:54] <monkey050> I'm trying to think - my 6.10 is on a black screen with no backlight.  :?
[11:54] <bashir> anyone know what is wrong?
[11:54] <Music_Shuffle> !caps | prOMiNd
[11:54] <ubotu> prOMiNd: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:54] <monkey050> There was something I did with enabling it somehow.
[11:54] <monkey050> I remember.
[11:55] <dcordes> can someone take a look at my broadcom interface? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37061/
[11:55] <monkey050> I remember visually though so I need to get mine to work to show you.
[11:55] <defrex> Everything was running fine until the power to my house went out while I was at work. Whether it had to do with the power or not, I don't know, but now when I'm half way through loading gnome my screen goes multi-colour, then tosses me back to the sign-in screen. Is there anyone who can give me a hand?
[11:55] <un_operateur1> prOMiNd, are you sure you have the multiverse repo added to sources.list ??
[11:55] <age6racer> yeah in 'networking' you can choose to "enable" it, but it doesnt stay enabled
[11:55] <monkey050> Ok hold on.  My computer won't load Ubuntu now that i upgraded things.
[11:55] <monkey050> LOL.
[11:55] <monkey050> Nevermind, the screen went black for some reason.
[11:55] <monkey050> Pushing buttons always helps on black screen!
[11:55] <age6racer> lol
[11:55] <stefg> defrex: are you sure that the power outage didN#t send a voltage spike to your box that damaged the hardware?
[11:55] <age6racer> always
[11:56] <monkey050> Now I can log in.  Hold on and I'll get in the IRC on my other system.
[11:56] <prOMiNd> boys, please help me ...
[11:56] <prOMiNd> i can't install
[11:56] <prOMiNd> xine extra codecs ..
[11:56] <prOMiNd> i miss the packages ....
[11:56] <defrex> stefg: I hope not... but I doubt it. I'm running a live cd right now. I guess it could have hurt the hard drive...
[11:56] <un_operateur1> prOMiNd, http://rpm.rutgers.edu/repository/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xine-extracodecs/
[11:57] <dcordes> p
[11:57] <age6racer> monkey050: Something is definately not right, cos it takes ages to activate the eth1 connection. As though it has just timed out.
[11:57] <n2diy> Mondo is telling me it "can't format a boot disk. Is your distro broken?" I emailed the error log to the developers, and I'm waiting to hear back from them.
[11:57] <monkey050> Hold on.
[11:57] <monkey050> I have the same card as you and it doesn't use ETH1 at all.
[11:57] <age6racer> oh...ok
[11:58] <prOMiNd> lol un_operateur1
[11:58] <Orangekid13> does anyone know what i can change to get 1440x900 on my list of available screen resolutions?
[11:58] <prOMiNd> verry thx, verry !!
[11:58] <monkey050> AAGHH it's telling me to become root before running pppoeconf!
[11:58] <corevette> how do i get my desktop to stop rendering in xgl without receiving errors?
[11:58] <justin4thirty> Hello! I have windows on hda1, linux on hdb1, and a fat32 filesystem on hdb2, but I can't read the fat32 partiton when I boot into windows. Does anyone know why?
[11:58] <stefg> defrex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will let you reconfigure your xorg.conf. But check, there might be locked files on the box, which need to be removed after the hard shutdown to get it up again
[11:58] <monkey050> Can someone help me so I can help age6racer?  lol
[11:58] <un_operateur1> prOMiNd, I asked you if you had the muliverse repo added to sources.list ..
[11:58] <un_operateur1> but you didnt see that post
[11:58] <Orangekid13> try putting sudo before the command?
[11:58] <treitter> does anyone know how (at least in recent versions of Ubuntu) tar knows to not autocomplete "tar -jxvf foo.tar<tab>" for foo.tar.gz (since it's seeing the -j flag passed to tar isn't applicable for foo.tar.gz)?
[11:58] <Orangekid13> oops
[11:58] <Orangekid13> monkey050: try putting sudo before the command
[11:59] <age6racer> ha, thanks for this monkey050
[11:59] <monkey050> ok
[11:59] <Uboon2> prOMiNd: gksudo apt-get install xine-ui        doesn't work ?
[11:59] <edd_> does anybody know how to get sound working in flash???
[11:59] <goofy> befor i go looking is there a installation guide for the alternate cd
[11:59] <monkey050> OK got it.
[11:59] <cmacis> Hello all, having trouble with the wireless network here. The card appears to be recognised, but its not connecting when i give it the name and key for the network
[11:59] <monkey050> Thanks oragnekid13
[11:59] <Orangekid13> welx
[11:59] <idigital> how do i install opera
[11:59] <monkey050> I just hope it lets me poff dsl-provider when I'm done!
[11:59] <pantalaimon_> edd_, install flashplayer 9 plugin
[11:59] <idigital> sudo filename?
[11:59] <edd_> ive done that
[11:59] <monkey050> OK, now age6racer.
[11:59] <ExM3th1x> hi @ all
[12:00] <stefg> edd_ a google search comes up with a thousand hits... google 'ubuntu flash sound'
[12:00] <ExM3th1x> http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/991/bildschirmfotote3.png
[12:00] <edd_> ok
[12:00] <ExM3th1x> does anybody know what that means?
[12:00] <Orangekid13> does anyone know how to get a widescreen resolution? i can only pick 1024x768 and smaller, all square
[12:00] <vlt> age6racer: I tried to get a BCM4311 working last week and it really drove me mad. Finally I switched from Dapper 6.06 (where nohting I tried seemed to work) to Edgy 6.10 (where I still had to compile a newer version of ndiswrapper ...)
[12:00] <ExM3th1x> it comes everytime i play a video
[12:00] <Orangekid13> i want to get 1440x768
[12:00] <defrex> stefg: I'll give that a try.
[12:00] <ExM3th1x> but the strage thing is all videos are played very good
[12:00] <stefg> Orangekid13: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:00] <Orangekid13> er 1440x900
[12:00] <jokoon> stefg and even speaking about running quake3 for example, the perfs will stay the same ?
[12:00] <monkey050> Go to System > Administration >Networking
[12:00] <corevette> can someone help, if i uninstall xgl, xserver comes up with errors saying Gnome needs xgl to render