[12:14] <trael> wtf happened!!??
[12:14] <feety> did your burner program reboot the computer and load the desktop cd?
[12:14] <trael> never has before
[12:15] <trael> df shows it seems to have taken over the HD.
[12:15] <trael> this is the oddest thing I have ever seen.
[12:15] <trael> talk about hands free installation.
[12:15] <feety> odd, the installation cd doesnt auto install... :/
[12:15] <feety> magical elves must have completed the set up process for you
[12:15] <trael> freaky.
[12:15] <nothlit> oh you know what?
[12:16] <trael> is there a preview?
[12:16] <feety> what
[12:16] <nothlit> There was a lame auto update that automatically restarted windows
[12:16] <nothlit> i saw it on one of the computers in the house
[12:16] <nothlit> so the livecd must have booted when windows did that
[12:16] <trael> Kubuntu auto installs?
[12:16] <feety> no
[12:16] <trael> never used it before.
[12:17] <feety> did you burn the Desktop CD or Alternative CD?
[12:17] <nothlit> trael, no you're in a livecd environment
[12:17] <trael> desktop
[12:17] <trael> ahh..
[12:17] <nothlit> trael, click the install icon on the desktop to start :P
[12:17] <feety> reboot the computer and remove the cd
[12:17] <trael> that was the funniest thing.
[12:17] <feety> wait, back up your files from Windows first! lol
[12:17] <nothlit> does kubuntu use ubiquity?
[12:17] <feety> yep
[12:17] <nothlit> and gparted?
[12:18] <feety> qt bindings
[12:18] <feety> qtparted
[12:18] <nothlit> it has less features
[12:18] <feety> thats what it has on the cd
[12:18] <feety> otherwise theyd have to waste disk space with gtk libraries :)
[12:18] <nothlit> the livecd should have pretty safe ntfs resizing though
[12:18] <feety> it does. ive tried it. but you have to be careful what size you make.
[12:19] <trael> welp thanks, time to go play.
[12:20] <nothlit> i've never actually installed from the kubuntu livecd, just booted it and i used the alternate cd for packages on the test system
[12:20] <killermach> whose freakin idea was it to have ubuntu delete /dev/ devices on reboot??? I how can I make the hideous behaviour go away???
[12:21] <feety> it deletes /dev devices? o_o
[12:21] <soulrider> hi
[12:21] <nothlit> what?
[12:21] <soulrider> i got issues installing grub, it sais its not a valid device when i do setup(hd0)
[12:22] <_kuja_> killermach, which devices in particular?P
[12:22] <nothlit> soulrider, you need hd0,0? :P
[12:22] <feety> do you put apostrophes around (hd0), soulrider?
[12:22] <feety> oh yeah that too
[12:22] <soulrider> yes
[12:22] <feety> ad dont forget the apostrophes, grub-install loves those
[12:22] <soulrider> no
[12:22] <soulrider> i need
[12:22] <soulrider> (hd0)
[12:22] <dbglt> for some reason, my ipod doesn't seem to be recognised when I plug it in now... it used to pop a konqueror window of my ipod, but now nothing comes up at all. Any ideas what could be the problem? (dmesg finds it - so It connects fine)
[12:22] <soulrider> ive done this a million times
[12:22] <nothlit> are you chainloading?
[12:23] <soulrider> maybe because i chose another partition for /boot ?
[12:23] <nothlit> or do you have no partitions
[12:23] <nothlit> soulrider, well that could be ^^
[12:23] <nothlit> tell us what /dev/hdxx /boot is mapped to
[12:23] <soulrider> boot is sda1, swap is sda2, root is sda3
[12:24] <soulrider> i want grub to be in the MBR
[12:24] <soulrider> thats why i do setup (hd0)
[12:24] <tamacracker> Isn't Ark supposed to open .RAR files?
[12:25] <_kuja_> you have to install unrar first
[12:25] <tamacracker> <,<
[12:25] <tamacracker> ok. brb
[12:26] <nothlit> theres rar unrar and unrar-free btw
[12:26] <nothlit> soulrider, oh grub setup
[12:26] <nothlit> soulrider, you probably have the syntax wrong, you need you give us the whole command
[12:27] <soulrider> heres what i did
[12:27] <soulrider> mounted sda3 in /mnt/ubuntu
[12:27] <soulrider> mounted sda1 in /mnt/ubuntu/boot
[12:27] <jonathan_> how do i unlock adept manager
[12:27] <soulrider> cd /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub
[12:27] <soulrider> did sudo grub
[12:27] <soulrider> then i did root (hd0,2)
[12:27] <soulrider> and then setup (hd0)
[12:27] <tamacracker> Ok I installed unrar free-version
[12:27] <soulrider> but now im getting another error
[12:27] <nothlit> you're not using grub-install?
[12:28] <tamacracker> and I still cannot open my .rar folder with Ark.
[12:28] <soulrider> i get file not found
[12:28] <soulrider> no
[12:28] <soulrider> i allways installed grub this way
[12:28] <nothlit> You do know hd0 is hda?
[12:28] <soulrider> its weird
[12:28] <_kuja_> only if hda is a hard drive ...
[12:28] <soulrider> grub sometimes takes it as 0 and sometimes as 1
[12:28] <soulrider> sda is my hard drive
[12:28] <nothlit> use the console and find out which # corresponds to your usb drive?
[12:28] <soulrider> its SCSI
[12:29] <jonathan_> adept wont let me install any other packages how do i unfreeze it
[12:29] <nothlit> oh
[12:29] <jonathan_> i know its fuser -ivk whats the rest of the command
[12:29] <soulrider> should i try running grub-install
[12:29] <nothlit> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[12:29] <_kuja_> tamacracker, you have to restart ark first, you've done this, right?
[12:30] <tamacracker> yeah I closed Ark..
[12:30] <nothlit> soulrider, i suppose its worth a shot
[12:30] <tamacracker> Do I need to restart?
[12:30] <_kuja_> No
[12:30] <tamacracker> or log off and back on
[12:30] <_kuja_> restarting rarely fixes anything,.
[12:30] <killermach> I'm working on setting up IrDA for my laptop/palm IIIc, and when I reboot ubuntu it's like having a nightmare about windows
[12:31] <_kuja_> I've never used unrar-free before, but I know I've successfully extracted rar files with unrar using ark before. In fact, I did that a couple days ago.
[12:31] <killermach> I mknod's in /dev/ and a reboot litterally eats them
[12:31] <tamacracker> ok
[12:31] <tamacracker> ill download the non=free version then
[12:32] <soulrider> nothlit: what should i add as device ?
[12:32] <_kuja_> tamacracker, try instead of doing that, to create a symlink from unrar-free to unrar in /usr/bin
[12:32] <tamacracker> i can't find unrar.
[12:32] <tamacracker> it's not on my program list
[12:32] <jonathan_> what is the fuser command that unlockes adept manager
[12:32] <tamacracker> or utility list
[12:32] <tamacracker> etc...
[12:33] <_kuja_> tamacracker: sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/unrar-free unrar
[12:33] <nothlit> tamacracker, its not in /usr/bin?
[12:33] <shinda> Anyone here have experience with curlftpfs, I'm getting permission problems that I can't seem to work out..
[12:33] <tamacracker> Attention: NO ONE GET UNRAR FREE-VERSION, IT DOES NOT WORK.
[12:33] <tamacracker> Thanks, that's all I needed
[12:33] <tamacracker> peace in the middle east :D
[12:33] <soulrider> lol tamacracker
[12:34] <_kuja_> unrar-free more than likely does work . ..
[12:34] <tamacracker> Nah the non-free version works :D
[12:34] <nothlit> soulrider, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Multiboot-with-GRUB-2.html
[12:34] <tamacracker> thanks anyways Kuja
[12:34] <_kuja_> mmhmm
[12:34] <jonathan_> what is the fuser command that unlockes adept manager
[12:34] <soulrider> thanks
[12:35] <_kuja_> why not just sudo killall adept-manager?
[12:35] <jonathan_> tried that the package is still trying to install which locks it kuja
[12:36] <_kuja_> lurvely
[12:36] <soulrider> nothlit: i want it in my HD, not a friggin floppy :P
[12:36] <_kuja_> !randonnonsensesoIgetthefactoidsmessage
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about randonnonsensesoIgetthefactoidsmessage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <jonathan_> ubotu u know anything about the fuser command that will terminate the hung package install
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u know anything about the fuser command that will terminate the hung package install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <_kuja_> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:38] <_kuja_> jonathan_, ubotu is of course, a bot :)
[12:38] <Red-Sox> Hi, just wondering how I can determine what my CUPS printer's URL is...
[12:39] <jonathan_> oh lol
[12:39] <jonathan_> sry im so out of it right nwo kuja it not funny
[12:40] <_kuja_> I've been in a state of pure ZOMBIE all day long. So I guess I'm not one to talk on that topic...
[12:40] <feety> killall _kuja_ && kuja &
[12:40] <yaweez> @ Red-Sox type in konqueror "localhost:631" and click on your printer?
[12:40] <_kuja_> x_x
[12:41] <jonathan_> ubotu u know anything about the fuser command that will terminate the hung package install in adeptttt maaaanagerr
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u know anything about the fuser command that will terminate the hung package install in adeptttt maaaanagerr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <_kuja_> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:41] <_kuja_> (second time I had to paste it now)
[12:41] <nothlit> soulrider, has the syntax lol
[12:41] <jonathan_> sry kuja didnt see it the first time
[12:41] <_kuja_> for future notice, it is, to help me remember it:
[12:41] <_kuja_> !adeptfix
[12:41] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[12:41] <nothlit> soulrider, was only scanning i can go find another howto
[12:41] <jonathan_> thanks ubotu
[12:43] <jonathan_> thank u all for ur help
[12:43] <_kuja_> hehehe] 
[12:43] <Red-Sox> yaweez: Don't see it...
[12:44] <_kuja_> killermach, if you're still around, I recommend you stuff t he creation of nodes into an init script.
[12:44] <_kuja_> almost forgot to tell you that.
[12:45] <yaweez> Red-Sox: do you see the CUPS page? on the top right of it click on 'printers'
[12:47] <php-freak> join /#css
[12:47] <_kuja_> php-freak, who and why?
[12:47] <Red-Sox> yaweez: Yeah I know, but my printer isn't listed
[12:48] <soulrider> uhm
[12:48] <soulrider> i really need help with my grub
[12:48] <_kuja_> what about it, exactly?
[12:48] <php-freak> kuja: sorry wrong chanenl
[12:48] <soulrider> well, i cnt install it
[12:48] <php-freak> wrong command I mean
[12:49] <_kuja_> ah
[12:49] <earl_> hello guys
[12:49] <earl_> i'm having a bit of trouble with apt-get.
[12:49] <soulrider> hi earl_
[12:50] <_kuja_> I'm afraid to inform you that your fingers may in fact be dyslexic php-freak. This highly contagious problem can be caught from in fact, reading the things inputted by my fingers o.O
[12:50] <earl_> i'm trying to apt-get install some programs, and i get an error that some of the dependencies are uninstallable
[12:50] <_kuja_> try installing the uninstallable dependencies?
[12:51] <_kuja_> also with apt-get ....
[12:51] <nothlit> kuja-contracted dyslexic fingerosa?
[12:51] <_kuja_> before installing what you want, that is.
[12:51] <earl_> here, look at this:
[12:51] <earl_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37073/
[12:52] <soulrider> !grub
[12:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:52] <_kuja_> It must need more cowbell o.O
[12:52] <earl_> if i try to install one of the dependencies:
[12:52] <dopez> can anyone tell me how to fix knetworkmanager in edgy? i installed it, it sees my networks but when i connect to one with wpa it just crashes and i need to restart dbus before knetowrkmanager works again
[12:52] <_kuja_> first, sudo apt-get remove cowbell
[12:52] <_kuja_> then try each of the dependencies one by one
[12:52] <earl_> it does need more cowbell unfortunately =(
[12:53] <yaweez> Red-Sox: is your printer installed? maybe not through CUPS. Then just use "administration" and "add this printer (your printer should be in the list) if it's installed
[12:53] <nothlit> soulrider, lol sorry i was just skimming, but it gave you the syntax... which was your question
[12:53] <earl_> it says cowbell is not installed, therefore not removed
[12:53] <nothlit> apt-get -f install?
[12:53] <_kuja_> that, or dpkg --remove --force cowbell ...... might work
[12:54] <Red-Sox> yaweez: I can print on every computer but this one.
[12:54] <earl_>  -f install: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, 0 not upgraded
[12:54] <earl_> _kuja_:dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `cowbell'
[12:54] <earl_> it's happened with other programs i try to install too
[12:55] <earl_> for example, easytag
[12:55] <_kuja_> This is likely caused by the version of cowbell in the repositories having specific dependencies, likely in the main repository. Do you have the updates repository enabled?
[12:55] <soulrider> i found someting, but its not working
[12:55] <soulrider> nothlit: whats a block device ?
[12:55] <earl_> i will pastebin my sources.list
[12:55] <jontec> hey... anyone care to tell me why all of the rubygems packages are missing from my repos (amd64)? I'm using the same as my 32-bit desktop and I can't see a package. Both are running Kubuntu Dapper.
[12:55] <jontec> see it's not even on here:
[12:56] <jontec> !libgem-ruby1.8
[12:56] <nothlit> soulrider, as per google define: A device such as magnetic tape or a disk drive, that naturally transfers data in blocks of fixed size. Opposed to character device.
[12:56] <nothlit> biology.ncsa.uiuc.edu/library/SGI_bookshelves/SGI_Developer/books/DevDriver_PG/sgi_html/go01.html
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgem-ruby1.8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <earl_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37076/
[12:56] <soulrider> =/
[12:56] <soulrider> well
[12:56] <Red-Sox> !CUPS
[12:56] <nothlit> !find libgem
[12:56] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:56] <soulrider> heres the thing
[12:56] <ubotu> Found: libgempc410, libgempc430
[12:56] <soulrider> i do "grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda"
[12:56] <soulrider> and i get
[12:56] <soulrider> uhm, hold on
[12:57] <_kuja_> jontec, there's also the possibility that there aren't 64-bit packages for that available. It's a small % of packages that don't, but it could be part of that small % I suppose.
[12:57] <jontec> Red-Sox: the name of the package is "libgems-ruby1.8"
[12:57] <yaweez> Red-Sox: try adding your printer through CUPS - administration - add this printer (when it's listed), when not, just "add printer" and follow the process
[12:58] <Red-Sox> jontec: What package?
[12:58] <earl_> _kuja_: do you see anything wrong with my sources.list?
[12:58] <jontec> _kuja_: I don't think that's it.... it says all archs in the "details" on the 32-bit comp
[12:58] <soulrider> nothlit: look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#head-44a5805eeda20ec1b6bd6c274cbf3a74230675d1
[12:58] <soulrider> its not working =/
[12:58] <jontec> Red-Sox: sorry wrong person. :D
[12:58] <Red-Sox> jontec: Ah no prob
[12:59] <_kuja_> earl_, try doing an apt-get update, and then try it again, just to be on the safe side.
[12:59] <_kuja_> I see nothing wrong with the list.
[12:59] <nothlit> soulrider, so why didn't the install handle grub for you?
[12:59] <jontec> _kuja_: since it says all archs... :D I think I'll get the .deb from my system.
[12:59] <soulrider> no idea
[12:59] <jontec> _kuja_: I've been doing that all day :D
[12:59] <earl_> no dice, kuja
[12:59] <soulrider> instead of grub i get "error 15: file not found"
[01:00] <_kuja_> jontec, I just ran a search, I'm not seeing them either.
[01:00] <soulrider> and if i go to a console
[01:00] <soulrider> mount /boot
[01:00] <soulrider> and then open grub
[01:00] <soulrider> do
[01:00] <soulrider> root (hd1,2)
[01:00] <soulrider> setup (hd1)
[01:00] <soulrider> i get a file not found error too
[01:00] <jontec> _kuja_: sorry.. you were talking to someone else. :D
[01:00] <jontec> _kuja_: what arch are you?
[01:01] <soulrider> i get
[01:01] <_kuja_> x86_64
[01:01] <soulrider>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
[01:01] <soulrider>  Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no
[01:01] <soulrider> Error 15: File not found
[01:02] <revolutionstudio> oi can anyone explain why i have to identify my password everytime i connect?
[01:02] <revolutionstudio> on freenode that is
[01:02] <daeds> does kubuntu support and detection the rt2500 wireless chipset automatically?
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[01:03] <nothlit> soulrider, reinstall grub
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[01:03] <soulrider> nothlit: how ?
[01:03] <spammer> its true
[01:03] <nothlit> soulrider, sudo aptitude reinstall grub
[01:03] <soulrider> im using the live CD now
[01:03] <nothlit> soulrider, so how are you booting into this in the first place?
[01:03] <earl_> kuja, thanks for your help, but it doesn't seem like this is a solvable problem
[01:03] <_kuja_> jontec: ... libgems-ruby1.8 doesn't have a launchpad page, are you sure that's the exact package name?
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[01:03] <soulrider> !ops
[01:03] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
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[01:03] <daeds> This is an Automated script thing to point out that I have no reg in CS! HAHHAHAHA!
[01:04] <_kuja_> earl_ well, it'll let me do it, so something must be solvable about it.
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[01:04] <daeds> \ Ol! SUPER BAN! :D /
[01:04] <jontec> _kuja_: certain... lol... I'm staring at the other screen right now. :D
[01:04] <soulrider> thanks!
[01:04] <soulrider> <3
[01:04] <daeds> silly scripts :P
[01:04] <earl_> yeah... but everything seems to be where it's supposed to be and such, it just can't seem to find these phantom packages
[01:04] <_kuja_> jontec: well, this is cute then: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+package/libgems-ruby1.8
[01:04] <nothlit> soulrider, oh... well you could always try chrooting...
[01:05] <soulrider> uhm... how ?
[01:05] <nothlit> soulrider, btw you might have the device #'s wrong then... because its the livecd filesystem
[01:05] <soulrider> i know the one thatc hanges is the 1
[01:05] <daeds> does kubuntu support and detection the rt2500 wireless chipset automatically?
[01:05] <soulrider> i already did this like 5 times :P
[01:05] <earl_> i get the same thing for pcakages like gaim, easytag
[01:05] <earl_> seems like the common thread is gtk programs
[01:06] <killermach> _kuja_: ok.. like /etc/rc.local  ??
[01:06] <soulrider> nothlit: reinstalled it and its not working
[01:06] <_kuja_> earl_ I'ma gonna take a look at that sources.list again
[01:06] <nothlit> soulrider, lol so you tried 0, 1 and 2?
[01:06] <_kuja_> killermach: /etc/init.d
[01:06] <soulrider> there sonly 1 and 0
[01:06] <soulrider> tab hsows only 1 and 0
[01:06] <soulrider> and
[01:06] <nothlit> soulrider, ahh
[01:06] <soulrider> theres no partition number 1 in hd 0
[01:06] <soulrider> so it has to be 1
[01:06] <_kuja_> killermach: you place a regular bash script there, lets refer to it as script.sh, then you type in "sudo update-rc.d script.sh defaults"
[01:07] <soulrider> i could try using a floppy
[01:07] <killermach> _kuja_: gotcha.. my peave is I was following a howto, I did all the steps and rebooted as recommended, and my work was deleted
[01:07] <earl_> k
[01:07] <soulrider> or maybe just reinstalling? :P
[01:07] <soulrider> i just reinstalle dkubuntu, couldnt even get in it once
[01:07] <nothlit> soulrider, i think you'll come into the same problem
[01:07] <_kuja_> killermach: I feel your pain
[01:07] <nothlit> soulrider, did you try using the alternate disc? it has better support
[01:07] <soulrider> text CD ?
[01:07] <nothlit> yeah
[01:07] <soulrider> i dont have ht edgy alternate one
[01:08] <soulrider> only dapper
[01:08] <soulrider> ima just gonna reinstall
[01:08] <nothlit> gl
[01:08] <soulrider> thanks
[01:08] <_kuja_> earl_: it looks okay. You haven't installed any other apps (gtk-related) from other repositories, or directly with dpkg have you?
[01:09] <earl_> not that i know of
[01:09] <[RIP] d3jake> nice, it worked
[01:09] <earl_> is there like a command that will make apt-get forget everything
[01:09] <_kuja_> earl_, if it won't break too many things, try removing gtk, and then reinstalling gtk + cowbell + anything important that it might remove.
[01:09] <killermach> _kuja_: its no working .. I've set this USB STIR4200 dongle up on this laptop with mandrake, but sofar I cannot get any output from irdadump on ubuntu
[01:09] <earl_> okay i'll give that a shot
[01:09] <_kuja_> earl_ what do you mean by forget?
[01:10] <earl_> hm what is the name of the gtk package
[01:10] <earl_> well like i dunno. i'm not very smart when it comes to linux things, but it seems to me like somehow apt-get was convinced that these packages just don't exist.
[01:10] <earl_> but they obviously do...
[01:10] <earl_> i dunno. i'll try removing gtk
[01:10] <_kuja_> earl_ libgtk2.0-0 I think
[01:10] <earl_> thanks
[01:11] <soulrider> nothlit: now that im reinsatlling, dop you think its a good idea to still use another aprtition for root ?
[01:11] <soulrider> i mean, boot
[01:11] <_kuja_> killermach, I wouldn't know ... the only infrared I play with is related to my remote ... which happens to be working great and it required little effort :)
[01:11] <darkmaniac> http://www.gimmickry.org/ <-riddles
[01:12] <[RIP] d3jake> what's the default root password for Kubuntu..?
[01:12] <nothlit> soulrider, well, if you use a separate partition and use ext2, you get better compatibility, but its not that necessary in this day and age
[01:12] <_kuja_> by default the root acount is completely disabled.
[01:12] <[RIP] d3jake> k
[01:12] <nothlit> !sudo | [RIP] d3jake
[01:12] <ubotu> [RIP] d3jake: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:13] <[RIP] d3jake> ahhhh, thanks nothlit
[01:13] <earl_> okay this is just getting weirder and weirder
[01:14] <[RIP] d3jake> thnaks
[01:14] <[RIP] d3jake> thanks*
[01:14] <earl_> i tried to remove gtk and this is what i got
[01:14] <_kuja_> earl_: did you do a clean edgy install or upgrade from dapper?
[01:15] <killermach> _kuja_: yeah.. I was hoping that install gnome-pilot and irda-utils and it would pleastly just work :)
[01:15] <earl_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37079/
[01:15] <jontec> well that's not helpful.
[01:15] <earl_> clean install
[01:15] <jontec> rubyforge is down.
[01:15] <earl_> it's been installed for about a month
[01:15] <earl_> but i stopped using it for about two weeks; started up a few days ago and all of a sudden -today- this problem starts
[01:15] <_kuja_> Hmm, that's interesting, because the versions of those broken packages listed seem to be in the repos
[01:16] <earl_> i'm removing openoffice
[01:16] <earl_> i dont even know why it's there to begin with
[01:16] <earl_> i have koffice...
[01:16] <_kuja_> If all else fails, try switching the mirror from us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[01:17] <earl_> k
[01:17] <_kuja_> earl_ I did a server install, so openoffice hasn't seen the light of my system in quite some time :D
[01:19] <earl_> okay... it's not even letting me uninstall openoffice. says it will break packages.
[01:20] <_kuja_> force it?
[01:20] <earl_> clearly, the problem is that i have broken packages -already- on my system
[01:20] <earl_> yup - apt-get remove --force right?
[01:20] <_kuja_> might work?
[01:20] <earl_> let me give it as hot
[01:20] <eilker> !directfb
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about directfb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <eilker> !framebuffer
[01:21] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[01:21] <nothlit> earl_, how did it get on there in the first place, did you turn on auto updates?
[01:21] <nothlit> or do you run it packaging managing with -y?
[01:21] <sertan> hi all
[01:21] <_kuja_> nothlit, he said he did a clean install
[01:21] <earl_> E: Command line option --force is not understood
[01:21] <_kuja_> earl_ that's why I said might, I didn't think apt-get had it, but I wasn't going to stop you from trying
[01:22] <earl_> i really don't know how openoffice ended up here. i might have installed it a while ago, but the problem's only been here about 12 hours.
[01:22] <nothlit> yeah but he said its been installed for a month
[01:22] <sertan> bana trke yardm edicek olan varm ?
[01:22] <_kuja_> earl_, try apt-get -f install
[01:22] <earl_> ugh, reinstalling the whole os is looking more appealing every minute
[01:23] <earl_> kuja, no effect
[01:23] <eilker> sertan: send me pm, trke yasak
[01:23] <_kuja_> earl_ if it's not too customized or not too much trouble, then it's not a bad option really.
[01:23] <earl_> =(
[01:23] <earl_> and i just finally got beryl to work toooo >,<
[01:23] <sertan> oke im sorry :(
[01:24] <_kuja_> Sounds like customization, which would make said reinstalling FAR more tedious.
[01:24] <earl_> yup
[01:24] <eilker> sertan: you can send me message
[01:24] <nothlit> try running the commands with aptitude? dunno
[01:25] <earl_> aptitude?
[01:25] <nothlit> !aptitude
[01:25] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[01:25] <nothlit> it can be a drop-in replacement for apt-get
[01:25] <earl_> interesting
[01:25] <_kuja_> sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-common language-support-en openoffice.org l10n-en-za
[01:25] <jontec> *looks around* what's the problem with earl_, now?
[01:26] <earl_> what the hell!!!
[01:26] <_kuja_> Broken packages causing dependency problems.
[01:26] <_kuja_> or some such
[01:26] <earl_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37082/
[01:27] <earl_> how are you going to tell me the package isn't installed! i'm running it right now!!
[01:27] <hazard_> WELL, that was exciting...
[01:27] <nothlit> because thats a metapackage?
[01:27] <hazard_> just in case anyone ever thinks of it, don't write a c program which recursively calls itself to run in the background.
[01:27] <LjL> no need for it to be a C program
[01:28] <jontec> has he run apt-get check?
[01:28] <jontec> what about apt-get moo?
[01:28] <LjL> and, yeah, that's called a forkbomb
[01:28] <nothlit> earl_, apt-cache show openoffice.org :P
[01:28] <_kuja_> apt-get moo is the solution to all of lifes problems.
[01:28] <nothlit> cowsay > ^
[01:28] <earl_> apt-cache gives no response
[01:28] <earl_> i try apt-get install openoffice.org
[01:28] <earl_> and this is what i get
[01:28] <eilker> !xgl > sertan
[01:29] <_kuja_> earl, I didn't type this: "sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-common language-support-en openoffice.org l10n-en-za" for my health
[01:29] <hazard_> Meh, I suppose that IS what it does.
[01:29] <earl_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37083/
[01:29] <nothlit> _kuja_, he didn't use a pastebin for his health
[01:29] <earl_> _kuja_ that second-last thing i pastebinned was what i got from your thing that you didn't do for your health =P
[01:30] <_kuja_> or wait, yes, I just now saw it. Remember, I'm a zombie.
[01:30] <nothlit> earl_, apt-cache policy openoffice.org
[01:30] <_kuja_> And also remember that zombies don't have health
[01:30] <jontec> I was serious 'bout that apt-get check though :D
[01:31] <earl_> apt-get check was almost resultless
[01:31] <Flarp> !easysource
[01:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[01:31] <_kuja_> earl_: revised edition (for everyone elses health, but not mine): sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-common language-support-en openoffice.org-l10n-en-za
[01:31] <earl_> apt-cache policy openoffice.org gave the following
[01:32] <earl_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37084/
[01:32] <nothlit> man pastebins are annoying
[01:32] <earl_> sorry =(
[01:32] <earl_> better than in here though
[01:32] <earl_> kuja, we're finally making progress
[01:33] <earl_> it didn't raise a stink about that one
[01:33] <nothlit> earl_, check your sources.list and sudo apt-get update
[01:33] <nothlit> earl_, um. its really not good that theres no result
[01:33] <Jucato> (you don't need to run apt-cache with sudo)
[01:33] <earl_> kuja says my sources.list is fine
[01:33] <_kuja_> The part where apt-cache show openoffice.org didn't work really bugs me.
[01:33] <earl_> i'll run you with sudo!!
[01:33] <nothlit> earl_, then apt-get update
[01:34] <nothlit> _kuja_, he has no installation candidate, that means his package list is broken
[01:34] <Jucato> by any chance, are you using us.archive.ubuntu.com in your sources.list?
[01:34] <earl_> jucato, as far as i know, yes
[01:34] <nothlit> earl_, and tell us if there are any errors, then run the apt-cache policy openoffice.org again
[01:35] <Jucato> hm... that may be the cause of the problem...
[01:35] <_kuja_> That's why I mentioned possibly trying archive.ubuntu.com instead a while back.
[01:35] <earl_> no errors uninstalling it
[01:35] <CSonicGo> Hi all!
[01:35] <_kuja_> us.archive.ubuntu.com has given me trouble on a few occasions.
[01:35] <eilker> !xgl > flash
[01:35] <Jucato> the us.archive.ubuntu.com has been giving some problems
[01:35] <CSonicGo> kuja it's very slow as of late.
[01:35] <eilker> !flash > sertan
[01:35] <CSonicGo> at max one time I was getting 668B/s
[01:35] <_kuja_> I wouldn't know.
[01:35] <earl_> apt-cache gave the same result this time
[01:35] <earl_> which is probably expected since it really isn't installed now
[01:35] <_kuja_> My connection apparantly isn't fast enough to  notice.
[01:36] <Jucato> earl_: no. apt-cache policy and show will show something, whether or not the package is installed
[01:36] <jontec> dangett... I can't find that file .deb file for libgems-ruby1.8... it's like someone erased all of its traces except for in adept... which never forgets anything
[01:36] <nothlit> earl_, no, there should be an available candidate from the repos
[01:36] <_kuja_> 668B/S, sounds like mor e of a problem with _YOUR_ connection that us.archive.ubuntu.com ....
[01:36] <SrChuck> hello, my keyboard don't work in kde :s, print the error... The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols Ignoring extra symbols.. Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
[01:36] <earl_> jucato it says the package is not installed
[01:36] <SrChuck> save me :'(
[01:36] <_kuja_> I typically get about 80 from us.archive.ubuntu.com, or anything, for that matter.
[01:37] <Jucato> earl_: do as _kuja_ recommended, switch your us.archive.ubuntu.com to plain archive.ubuntu.com or uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:37] <nothlit> earl_, thats not all policy does...
[01:37] <earl_> jucato, have switched it, updating now
[01:37] <CSonicGo> kuja I'm on Wireless USB maybe that's the problem
[01:37] <earl_> nothlit: let me show you the output of policy
[01:37] <nothlit> earl_, i saw the pastebin
[01:37] <nothlit> earl_, and that is NOT a good thing
[01:37] <nothlit> earl_, like jucato said, it should always say something
[01:37] <earl_> yeah
[01:38] <earl_> this is very strange
[01:38] <_kuja_> so yes, pull up the sources.list in kate, find and replace (hint)all instances of us.archive.ubuntu.com with archive.ubuntu.com, save.
[01:39] <_kuja_> do an apt-get update, then an apt-get upgrade.
[01:39] <earl_> kuja, done that already and apt-get updated
[01:39] <earl_> nothing to upgrade
[01:39] <_kuja_> Well, apt-get install cowbell?
[01:39] <nothlit> earl_, kk run the policy again and tell us if theres anything new, no need to pastebin
[01:39] <earl_> cowbell still fails to install
[01:39] <earl_> apt-cache policy returns the same result
[01:39] <earl_> not intsalled, no candidate
[01:39] <nothlit> !openoffice.org
[01:39] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[01:39] <nothlit> !info openoffice.org
[01:40] <Flarp> what in the world is cowbell ?
[01:40] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[01:40] <nothlit> its a music organiser
[01:40] <earl_> it's a masstagger... but that's not the problem, it seems to be happening with any gtk program
[01:40] <_kuja_> try again to remove gtk, and reinstall it?
[01:40] <CSonicGo> heh, cowbell
[01:40] <earl_> oh, right
[01:41] <CSonicGo> that's awesome
[01:41] <earl_> okay now it's letting me remove gtk
[01:42] <earl_> yeah it removed a buttload of things along with it, including things like beryl-manager, so i'm assuming i need to restart linux right
[01:42] <_kuja_> Nope
[01:42] <_kuja_> Wonderful thing about linux is that the only time you need to reboot is if you're screwing with the kernel, or some kernel modules.
[01:42] <earl_> well beryl manager is my window manager. and my windows are still being managed.
[01:43] <dave_> hey there, i am new to Kubuntu and i cant get MP3's to play in amarok or kaffine
[01:43] <_kuja_> So, you'll likely want to restart x, but that's okay, isn't it?
[01:43] <earl_> yeah that's fine
[01:43] <earl_> i just hope everything stlil works when i do
[01:43] <Jucato> !mp3 | dave_
[01:43] <ubotu> dave_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:44] <_kuja_> it won't affect any running programs, but if you uninstall something like beryl, then close out beryl, and try to restart beryl before having reinstalled it, it won't start.
[01:44] <earl_> okay
[01:44] <earl_> i'm going to restart x
[01:44] <earl_> wait this is probably a good time to ask
[01:44] <nothlit> earl_, lol gtk runs on beryl-manager doesn't it?
[01:44] <nothlit> err
[01:44] <nothlit> the other way
[01:44] <earl_> should i log out before ctrl alt backspacing?
[01:44] <nothlit> yes
[01:45] <earl_> okay i'll brb
[01:45] <Jucato> (not really necessary, because if you log out, there will already be an option restart X in the login menu...)
[01:46] <dave_> I couldn't get anything out of that oinfo, Kubuntu wont play MP3s on many computers.
[01:46] <nothlit> in kdm
[01:46] <dave_> That I have tried
[01:46] <dave_> amaroK
[01:46] <dettoaltrimenti> does google mail work (with all the features) for anyone with konqueror/
[01:46] <mike1980> Hi there guys, I have set up my development web server now i want to be able to upload web sites to via the LAN what do I have to install to do so?
[01:46] <dave_> and Kaffeine
[01:46] <nothlit> you've installed mp3 decoders?
[01:46] <dave_> We've /tried/
[01:47] <mike1980> Hi there guys, I have set up my development web server now i want to be able to upload web sites to via the LAN what do I have to install to do so?
[01:47] <nothlit> !ftp
[01:47] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[01:47] <nothlit> !nfs
[01:47] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:47] <ruzle> Hello, I have problems burning cds with k3b? Can some one tell me what to do?
[01:47] <SrChuck> hello, my keyboard don't work in kde :s, print the error... The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols Ignoring extra symbols.. Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
[01:47] <dave_> So where can we find a decoder?
[01:47] <_kuja_> !mp3
[01:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:48] <Jucato> dave_: install libxine-extracodecs from the multiverse repository
[01:48] <dave_> we just *Tried* those
[01:48] <mike1980> shh or anything
[01:48] <earl_> okay
[01:48] <_kuja_> after installing it, you quit amarok and restarted it, or no dave_?
[01:48] <earl_> so one of the things that removing gtk did
[01:48] <earl_> was remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:49] <earl_> so i figure... you know, if there's a package i need to run kubuntu
[01:49] <earl_> it's probably kubuntu desktop
[01:49] <mike1980> !ftp
[01:49] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[01:49] <_kuja_> kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, reinstall it if you wan to
[01:49] <earl_> i apt-get installed that
[01:49] <earl_> yeah i know it's a metapackage and mostly unnecessary
[01:49] <earl_> buuuuuuuut
[01:49] <earl_> it's one any kubuntu system starts out with right?
[01:49] <earl_> aaaaand it wont let me install it.
[01:49] <CSonicGo> hey uh how do I use a serial mouse
[01:49] <CSonicGo> :(
[01:49] <earl_> so i'm pretty sure apt-get is just plain broken.
[01:50] <nothlit> earl_, it doesn't make sense, why would kubuntu need gtk?
[01:50] <nothlit> earl_, your system sounds broken, its prolly less hassle to start over
[01:50] <earl_> i'm sure there's some random minor program that needs gtk
[01:50] <_kuja_> It's probably thrown in there for compatibility reasons.
[01:50] <earl_> yeah
[01:50] <earl_> i agree it's probably easier to start over
[01:50] <_kuja_> Just like Ubuntu-GNOME comes with QT, if I remember right.
[01:51] <Jucato> nope
[01:51] <_kuja_> Hmmmmmm
[01:51] <_kuja_> Maybe not
[01:51] <_kuja_> My memories are fuzzy on that one ;)
[01:51] <_kuja_> I can't think of any things in KDE that need GTK though, oddly enough.
[01:52] <earl_> firefox! =)
[01:52] <Jucato> one of the apps installed with Kubuntu (kubunut-desktop) probably depends on GTK.
[01:52] <mike1980> How or where do I configure proftpd from GUI?
[01:52] <Jucato> Kubuntu is not 100% pure KDE
[01:53] <_kuja_> Most unforutunately
[01:53] <CSonicGo> if you want pure KDE can't you apt-get install KDE
[01:53] <_kuja_> I think I know what it is.
[01:53] <_kuja_> It's probably OOo
[01:53] <CSonicGo> because that's what I did
[01:53] <_kuja_> or some such
[01:53] <earl_> okay well thanks for your help guys. i'm just gonna reinstall kubuntu
[01:53] <Jucato> the "kde" metapackage installs too many things
[01:53] <CSonicGo> I know it does but
[01:53] <CSonicGo> it's nice heh
[01:54] <earl_> have a good night fellas
[01:54] <CSonicGo> if you have a big HD that is
[01:54] <Jucato> you can also install kde-core instead, and just build up from there
[01:54] <_kuja_> earl_ good luck
[01:55] <_kuja_> kde-core + kubuntu-default-settings + kubuntu usplash
[01:56] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a nice rss aggregator for linux that can handle audio and video podcasts/
[01:56] <CSonicGo> heh, KDE runs nice on my old computer, I turned all the "effects" off
[01:56] <nothlit> _kuja_, earl_ said it lol, firefox
[01:56] <Jucato> heh.. usplash, Crystal, system settings, and Adept are the only kubuntu stuff I have installed
[01:56] <Jucato> firefox is not installed by default in Kubuntu, btw
[01:56] <nothlit> or use the colossal kde package
[01:56] <nothlit> really? it forces you to use konqueror?
[01:57] <nothlit> i don't mean that literally btw
[01:57] <_kuja_> Nobody is forcing you to use anything :P
[01:57] <Jucato> nothlit: it doesn't "force" you anything. you can always install
[01:57] <nothlit> i don't mean that literally btw
[01:57] <_kuja_> And who wouldn't want to use konqueror?
[01:57] <Jucato> apparently, nothlit...
[01:57] <manuleviking> Jucato: you don't use kubuntu ?
[01:58] <Jucato> manuleviking: I don't use the kubuntu-desktop package
[01:58] <nothlit> people who don't like the plugin support?
[01:58] <Jucato> but I use Kubuntu :)
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: it isn't
[01:58] <nothlit> or the middle click behavior?
[01:58] <Jucato> what middle click behavior?
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: the desktop is just a meta-package, doesn't mean anything really
[01:59] <_kuja_> nothlit, behaviours can be changed, though the interfaces for doing so don't exist and you have to edit a text file. Which bugs me.
[01:59] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: huh?
[01:59] <manuleviking> Jucato: ok but how did you installed KDE ( non kubuntu-fied ) ? just apt-get install kde ?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> what?
[02:00] <Jucato> manuleviking: http://jucato.org/kde/kde-core.html
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> everyone ignore me. /away
[02:01] <the-erm> I know this is a linux channel, but there are windows users here, and it's been years since I seriously ran it.  Do you really need norton go back on a notebook?  Or is it better to turn it off?
[02:01] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti: akregator handles feeds, amarok handles podcasts. I know of n othing that handles both.
[02:02] <nothlit> _kuja_, i'm not running any kde apps anyways
[02:02] <_kuja_> Qt
[02:02] <nothlit> _kuja_, but konqueror default behavior bugs me a lot
[02:02] <nothlit> yes you can change it
[02:02] <nothlit> but i don't use it often and its irritating when i do
[02:03] <nothlit> same
[02:03] <_kuja_> middle click paste perchance?
[02:03] <nothlit> close tabs
[02:03] <_kuja_> or perhaps middle clicking on a tab not closing it?
[02:03] <_kuja_> those bug me.
[02:03] <_kuja_> I changed them.
[02:03] <nothlit> the middle click tab in konqueror is really annoying
[02:03] <Jucato> middle-click paste is *not* a KDE feature
[02:03] <_kuja_> :D
[02:03] <nothlit> If i wanted to paste i would have done it in the window
[02:03] <manuleviking> nothlit: you can change that
[02:04] <Jucato> hm.. I shall repeat, middle-click paste is not a KDE feature
[02:04] <the-erm> Middle click is useful when you're running konsole.
[02:04] <_kuja_> No, I mean middle clicking when  page is loaded, and it instead of switching to panning mode, decides to enter the contents of your clipboard into the address bar and try to go t here.
[02:04] <manchicken> Middle-click paste is an X feature.
[02:04] <nothlit> Again, on the TAB.
[02:04] <manuleviking> but you can modify it ;)
[02:04] <Jucato> that's not middle-click paste nothlit, _kuja_
[02:04] <the-erm> I think it's useful.
[02:05] <manchicken> I love Button2 pasting.
[02:05] <Jucato> but that's easily changed in the settings
[02:05] <nothlit> manuleviking, i only see it on livecds and other peoples comps i setup anyways
[02:05] <nothlit> Jucato, it is the way konqueror handles it :P
[02:06] <Jucato> also, it might surprise you to know that middle-click to close a tab is actually only know to those who have used Firefox.
[02:06] <_kuja_> that's not easily changed, I have to create an invisible option in a text file.
[02:06] <nothlit> Jucato, nope, i've used it in other gecko browsers and opera and even IE7 uses that.
[02:06] <nothlit> I don't even use firefox
[02:06] <T3hWiz0rd> Hello!
[02:06] <Jucato> _kuja_: I meant to turn off the "Middle click opens URL in selection"
[02:06] <Jucato> oh yeah, Firefox and Opera
[02:07] <nothlit> Jucato, and IE7 (MSFT!!!!!!) and other gecko browsers (mozilla-browser, galeon, epiphany, though i think epiphany doesnt)
[02:07] <_kuja_> It just so turns out, that quite a few people are coming from a background where they may have used said browsers Jucato :D
[02:07] <nothlit> Jucato, so really konqueror is the abnormal one
[02:07] <CSonicGo> wow Konquerer is fast on a slow computer
[02:08] <Jucato> _kuja_: true. that option (Middle click to close a tab) needs a way to control it in the GUI
[02:08] <nothlit> epiphany listens to HIG with the annoying X i think
[02:08] <Jucato> nothlit: only when people started copying Firefox
[02:08] <manuleviking> you can close your tabs in konqueror with middle click like this : MouseMiddleClickClosesTab=true in your : ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc ( section FMSettings )
[02:08] <manuleviking> ;)
[02:08] <nothlit> Jucato, so? It happened now, and opera had it first
[02:09] <_kuja_> jucato: I recall Opera 7 having done it. Opera may have been the first at it? Who knows.
[02:09] <nothlit> manuleviking, so I should do that every time I run across a livecd/foreign system?
[02:09] <Jucato> nothlit: I'm just saying that it wasn't a "trend" before, which is why Konqueror dindn't have a GUI way to control middle-click close
[02:09] <manuleviking> i think nothlit
[02:10] <nothlit> Jucato, still why not keep up
[02:10] <manuleviking> btw, : http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Middle_Click_on_Tab_to_Close_in_Konqueror_KDE_3_4_
[02:10] <Jucato> nothlit: who knows. KDE 4?
[02:10] <_kuja_> manuleviking: Taht's just what my point was, we shouldn't have to add previously invisible things to the text file. A person wouldn't even know they could do it unless they were specifically looking for it.
[02:10] <nothlit> Jucato, why does konqueror need to wait for a major major kde release?
[02:11] <_kuja_> And that's assuming they took the time to look for it instead of passing it off as, wow, I hate this, which ignorant people are known to do (I'm obviously not one of those :-p)
[02:11] <nothlit> doing that would take me about as much motivation as recompiling konqueror just to do that
[02:11] <Jucato> nothlit: better idea: make a wishlist in bugs.kde.org, vote for it, ask people to vote for it, until it gets "confirmed by popular vote"
[02:11] <manuleviking> there are very good tips in there :)
[02:11] <Jucato> or better yet: stick to Firefox, no one's "forcing" anyone
[02:11] <nothlit> Does konqueror have video thumbnailing?
[02:11] <_kuja_> nothlit, work on KDE3 is grinding to a halt. All that is trickling into it now is bugfixes. Maybe the off feature or two, but development is geared up for KDE4 now.
[02:12] <manuleviking> exactly
[02:12] <nothlit> Jucato, you wondered what i was referring to lol
[02:12] <Jucato> yes, and I already answered how it can be changed
[02:13] <nothlit> Jucato, yes but that is only realistic if I run konqueror all the time on my main system
[02:13] <Jucato> "Middle click opens URL in selection" is easily turned off. "Middle click to close tab" needs to be manually added (and also needs a GUI control)
[02:13] <T3hWiz0rd> look, it is this simple: KDE is goig under a complete rehaul in the coming year or so, from this point out kde 3.5 is more of a burden then a priority
[02:13] <nothlit> It is DEFINITELY not viable for every foreign system... which i may not be allowed to modify the behavior and livecds
[02:13] <T3hWiz0rd> most MAJOR changes wont hit until kde 4.
[02:13] <Jucato> I actually don't care what you run. I was just wondering what you were referring to
[02:13] <T3hWiz0rd> the same goes for almost EVERY gui ever made.
[02:13] <nothlit> Jucato, i have nothing against the pasting, just the tab part
[02:13] <_kuja_> jucato, is there a bug report/wishlist item for that on bugs.kde.org, (only if you know off hand, otherwise, I'll go check now)
[02:14] <Jucato> _kuja_: go check, I don't know offhand
[02:14] <_kuja_> I think I still have some votes left, that I've not yet spent on Konqueror afterall
[02:14] <Jucato> _kuja_: you have an unlimited # of votes
[02:14] <Jucato> but you can only put 20 votes per report
[02:14] <_kuja_> limitted to 100 for Konqueror, of course
[02:14] <manuleviking> nothlit: is it so hard to stay with middle click=paste ??
[02:15] <nothlit> manuleviking, absolutely
[02:15] <_kuja_> Of which I may have used around 60, at 20 a piece
[02:15] <Jucato> manuleviking: if you've been used to middle-click on tabs to close
[02:15] <Jucato> manuleviking: I actually have that (middle click tab to close)
[02:15] <nothlit> manuleviking, i'm a power browser, i can have 30-50 tabs open at a time, can be more
[02:15] <Jucato> but also have middle click to open URL (which I find very helpful)
[02:16] <Jucato> _kuja_: if you do find the wishlist, post the link here so we (or I) can vote
[02:16] <_kuja_> I'm looking
[02:16] <jontec> okay.... I remember why I just have the .deb packages and they're not in my archives: I complied these .deb packages... I just don't remember how. Does anyone know how to? I thought I copied the instructions... but I don't see them on my system
[02:16] <nothlit> manuleviking, and it really slows me down, especially since i'm used to other browsers... so this behavior not only doesn't minimise how many tabs i have open but also pastes over tabs that may still be important
[02:16] <fenixnr> How would I install gnome on kubuntu?
[02:16] <nothlit> fenix_, install the gnome or ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[02:17] <nothlit> !synaptic | fenix_
[02:17] <ubotu> fenix_: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:17] <nothlit> !synaptic | fenixnr
[02:17] <ubotu> fenixnr: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:17] <nothlit> oh
[02:17] <nothlit> oops
[02:17] <nothlit> !adept | fenixnr
[02:17] <ubotu> fenixnr: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:17] <manuleviking> nothlit: i agree with you with this point
[02:17] <fenixnr> I already know aboutabout synaptic and adept
[02:17] <nothlit> fenix_, install the gnome or ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[02:18] <nothlit> manuleviking, its just what i find irritating, yes it can be changed, but the process of changing it can also be part of the irritation
[02:18] <nothlit> manuleviking, i think we've all said our piece on the subject?
[02:18] <hex_st0rm> #slackware
[02:19] <nothlit> fenixnr, sorry look at what i gave to fenix_
[02:19] <manuleviking> nothlit: i think :)
[02:19] <Jucato> [and the part about people complaining without trying to help do something about it (if they care at all) is a bigger source of irritation] 
[02:19] <_kuja_> Jucato, I'm not seeing one, at least not about having an option in the gui for it.
[02:19] <nothlit> Jucato, i wasn't complaining about it, you wondered (and so asked)
[02:20] <Jucato> nothlit: I wasn't referring to you
[02:20] <Jucato> although you are also complaining a bit already :)
[02:20] <nothlit> Jucato, no just clarifying
[02:20] <Jucato> _kuja_: hold on a sec
[02:21] <nothlit> Jucato, i have nothing personally against konqueror, its a great app
[02:21] <hex_st0rm> is slackware a decent distro?
[02:21] <hex_st0rm> i wanna switch from kubuntu to slackware...
[02:21] <hex_st0rm> or just any other distro really
[02:21] <Jucato> _kuja_: I'm see some reports
[02:22] <nothlit> slackware is has pretty old packages, and i don't think there is package removal
[02:22] <T3hWiz0rd> hex_st0rm: why not ask such questions in those distros designated channels?
[02:22] <_kuja_> I don't see one specifically related to there not being a gui option ...
[02:22] <nothlit> you either compile from source or extract straight into root
[02:22] <_kuja_> I see plenty to do with middle click close tab though
[02:22] <hex_st0rm> tehwiz0rd, #slackware is basicly dead
[02:22] <angasule> vim-tiny is the default vim? that's rubbish, unusable even
[02:22] <_kuja_> angasule, I agree
[02:22] <T3hWiz0rd> hex_st0rm: then it matches the distro
[02:22] <hex_st0rm> alright
[02:22] <Jucato> _kuja_: have you read through all of them? one might already mention it inside the report
[02:22] <_kuja_> That's the very first thing I change in a new install
[02:22] <nothlit> hex_st0rm, switch to arch or gentoo
[02:23] <nothlit> hex_st0rm, arch is great
[02:23] <_kuja_> I've skimmed, I may have missed something?
[02:23] <hex_st0rm> i've never heard of it?
[02:23] <nothlit> its a small distro, for advanced users
[02:23] <_kuja_> but I really haven't seen anything regarding a gui option for it ... which is what we're wanting, right?
[02:23] <angasule> _kuja_: I had been busy with finals, and I was trying to configure vim and got strange errors, when I checked, it was the non-functional tiny vim, gah
[02:23] <nothlit> its not for the everyday joe
[02:23] <hex_st0rm> im not advanced, im more intermediate
[02:23] <manuleviking> or maybe sabayon ? ( it is based on gentoo too )
[02:24] <_kuja_> Crud, it's getting late, I should go ...  I have to get up early
[02:25] <AlexLibman> hiya
[02:28] <jontec> why does samba make me login to my windows computer's shared documents? There is no password setup for it
[02:29] <morvok> @yay!
[02:33] <nothlit> !samba | jontec
[02:33] <ubotu> jontec: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:33] <nothlit> jontec, you need to set a password with smbpasswd, or lower the security to share in the samba config file
[02:42] <der_steppenwolf> hello, i have a question about character encodings
[02:42] <nothlit> !ask
[02:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:43] <hawk_> can anyone help me
[02:43] <hawk_> i am geting an kernal panic when trying to install
[02:44] <jontec> I have two non-repo debs here that I need to install... how do I do that?
[02:44] <hawk_> anyone here
[02:44] <honkzilla> man dpkg
[02:44] <hawk_> that can help me
[02:44] <nothlit> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:44] <nothlit> does kubuntu have anything like gdebi?
[02:45] <hawk_> i am getting a kernal panic when intalling how do i fix it?
[02:45] <hawk_> desktop
[02:45] <nothlit> I saw debs before in konqueror and they got opened with ark
[02:45] <Jucato> nothlit: right click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install package
[02:45] <Jucato> nothlit: they're planning to port gdebi to KDE next release
[02:46] <der_steppenwolf> well, i use cvs to checkout a project, but it seems the file names of the project are encoded in iso8859-1. So, when I see the file names I see '?' characters. I can change the encoding to UTF-8 by using the command convmv. However, if I want to see the differences using diff with my files and the files in the CVS obviously they are different. Is there any other way to work more transparently?
[02:46] <hawk_> i am getting a 42.502309 kernel panic how do i fix it
[02:46] <morgWork> anyone else have problems getting the ipw2100 working on an IBM T42?
[02:46] <hawk_> when intalling
[02:47] <goodthing> is there an easy to get the boot messages back in edgy?
[02:47] <nothlit> Jucato, does it just use dpkg or is there a graphical end to it?
[02:48] <goodthing> *+way
[02:48] <nothlit> goodthing, edit your grub menu.lst and take out the quiet
[02:48] <goodthing> way too cool, thank you :)
[02:48] <nothlit> that's the easiest way
[02:48] <Jucato> nothlit: which one? the Kubuntu Package Menu actually just launches xterm with the appropriate dpkg command. it's not a separate app.
[02:48] <LjL> nothlit: what are the other ways?
[02:48] <nothlit> Jucato, kubuuntu package menu... thnx
[02:49] <php-freak> can i share xubuntu with kubunut
[02:49] <php-freak> I want to sahre desktops, or let someone else access my desktop
[02:49] <hawk_> i am getting a kernal panic when instaling can i fix it
[02:49] <nothlit> LjL, lol, i suppose you could embed grub with a setup, or edit it each time on boot, or use a different boot loader or run it off a live disc or something
[02:49] <nothlit> !x11vnc | php-freak
[02:49] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[02:50] <LjL> nothlit: ah, ok, i thought there were other ways besides removing the "quiet" kernel parameter
[02:50] <nothlit> LjL, i was just saying thats as easy as it gets
[02:50] <LjL> nothlit: asking mainly because, if you try that, you'll see that it has the side-effect of giving you some (very brief, admittedly) textmode stuff dumped on the console before usplash starts
[02:51] <php-freak> well
[02:51] <php-freak> i have vnb
[02:51] <php-freak> how do i set my server up
[02:51] <nothlit> i thought it vomits all over tty1?
[02:51] <hawk_> i am getting a kernal panic when installing
[02:51] <LjL> nothlit: that's probably what it does
[02:52] <nothlit> yeah i get it all over tty1 and different info from usplash
[02:52] <LjL> nothlit: but then, when usplash takes over, that's not a problem anymore. it's just the split second when usplash isn't loaded yet that is a bit "ugly" with 'quiet' removed
[02:52] <nothlit> but if i switch between the two byebye usplash
[02:52] <the-erm> php-freak: apt-get install apache2
[02:52] <nothlit> i just get the bar if it happens to move
[02:53] <ablyss> php-freak: why not use krfb
[02:53] <menteck> i am getting a kernal panic when i try to intall is there a way i can fix it
[02:53] <LjL> !install
[02:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:53] <menteck> thank you for your help
[02:53] <nothlit> LjL, hmm how would you flush apps from ports? I have had x11vnc processes incorrectly terminate and now I'm at :5902
[02:54] <ablyss> krfb is an easy gui app that allow instant sharing of your current desktop
[02:54] <nothlit> !krfb
[02:54] <ubotu> krfb: Desktop Sharing for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 921 kB, installed size 1644 kB
[02:54] <sl00> Hi. Is there a LiveCD available that is using KDE 3.80.2 ?
[02:54] <LjL> nothlit, dunno, i guess there's probably just some file in /var/lock that you could remove manually
[02:54] <nothlit> its a kde thing? he wants to share from xubuntu to kubuntu
[02:54] <nothlit> !miniiso
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about miniiso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <LjL> it's a VNC server (or client, whichever it is)
[02:55] <nothlit> LjL, hmmm the mini iso isn't very visible
[02:55] <LjL> should work well with the Gnome equivalent
[02:55] <nothlit> vino-server is HORRIBLY documented
[02:55] <LjL> nothlit: indeed, i just got to knew about its existence a few days ago
[02:55] <nothlit> HORRIBLY HORRIBLY HORRIBLY
[02:55] <LjL> well, about what it did anyway
[02:55] <nothlit> just use x11vnc
[02:55] <LjL> nothlit: i'm not adding a factoid or a decent wiki page yet just because i haven't tried it yet, but i intend to
[02:55] <the-erm> er ... what about ssh?
[02:56] <nothlit> ssh is for tunneling/transferring/console?
[02:56] <the-erm> Do you *need* to be able to see the desktop, or do you just need access to the data?
[02:56] <trappist> nothlit: you can tunnel X apps over ssh
[02:56] <the-erm> yup.
[02:57] <nothlit> Yeah but its not the safest thing to do and it doesn't do remote desktop sharing
[02:57] <trappist> nothlit: ssh -c blowfish -X somehost xcalc for example
[02:57] <NameNomad> does anyone know a good anti-virus program for Linux?
[02:57] <NameNomad> I won't ever need it
[02:57] <NameNomad> probably
[02:57] <trappist> nothlit: (I recommend -c blowfish for this because it's faster)
[02:57] <nothlit> trappist, i know lol, i tunnel x apps to windows even
[02:57] <NameNomad> but it doesn't hurt to have one installed
[02:57] <the-erm> Personally I'd recommend using shfs, or konqueror to sftp:// in then edit the file with the local program, then save it there.
[02:57] <trappist> nothlit: oh :)
[02:58] <nothlit> NameNomad, theres panda and clamav
[02:58] <NameNomad> either one better than the other?
[02:58] <nothlit> they have how to's on the wiki help.ubuntu.com/community
[02:59] <morvok> why does my apt-get install refuse to find packages?
[02:59] <nothlit> i would say clamav is a better tool
[02:59] <nothlit> and easier to install
[02:59] <nothlit> but you need to follow the wiki
[02:59] <nothlit> morvok, it doesn't search for packages... but you might not have the right repos enabled
[02:59] <nothlit> !repos | morvok
[02:59] <ubotu> morvok: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:59] <menteck> thanks for your help but it was a hardware
[03:00] <the-erm> I'm about to ask a stupid question ... why run a virus scanner in linux?  Last I heard there were no active viruses in linux.  Just ones that could effect the mail server.
[03:00] <nothlit> trappist, btw also add -C if its over WAN
[03:00] <nothlit> linux isn't perfectly safe
[03:00] <morvok> nothlit: thanks
[03:00] <nothlit> and usually just to scan documents that you may forward, or to scan windows machines and partitions
[03:00] <trappist> nothlit: nice, hadn't seen that before
[03:00] <NameNomad> pretty much
[03:01] <NameNomad> for me, I've started to torrent things
[03:01] <menteck> dos  this have a problem with hyberthreading
[03:01] <the-erm> I have no windows partitions on this computer, it's all server, all linux.
[03:01] <NameNomad> because I'm too poor for buying
[03:01] <NameNomad> and I just want to be sure I'm safe
[03:01] <menteck> hardware
[03:01] <mark_> hi
[03:01] <menteck> hello
[03:01] <nothlit> the-erm, so you never have to forward emails with attachments, or documents, spreadsheets, presentations?
[03:01] <mark_> hi mentek
[03:02] <menteck> hows it going
[03:02] <menteck> mark
[03:02] <mark_> not too bad, urself
[03:02] <menteck> just intalling kubuntu on my spare computer
[03:03] <mark_> I'm a total newbie, just trying things out
[03:03] <menteck> well i am kind of know
[03:03] <menteck> new
[03:03] <menteck> lol
[03:04] <menteck> i have tryed out several other linux things and now it is time to try this one
[03:04] <mark_> how's the install going
[03:04] <bear-> booted faster than I thought it would
[03:04] <bear-> but, is there not a wpa_supplicant?
[03:04] <menteck> i had problems at first with hardware
[03:05] <menteck> bad memory stick but the cool thing is the Kubuntu found it and told me
[03:05] <mark_> took me a bit of messing to get printer working, scanner still not, but everything else no probs
[03:05] <nothlit> LjL, wow... the ops really go through the factoids before they finally push them through?
[03:06] <menteck> bad thing i have to find more memory know
[03:06] <menteck> how long have you been using linux for? Mark
[03:06] <mark_> trying to install 'wine' so i can use windows software/games
[03:07] <NameNomad> thanks for the help folks, I gotta hit the road though
[03:07] <NameNomad> busy day
[03:07] <menteck> thats why i changed to to kubuntu
[03:07] <mark_> oooh, about 2 weeks with a good few days off
[03:07] <menteck> wine dos not work in slackware with out pull out some hair so here i am
[03:07] <BluesKaj> well, thought I was fixinga problem, but I've lost permission to my hda1 partition ... uhoh !
[03:08] <mark_> yeah, i'm fed up with microsh*t so trying linux, firefox, etc
[03:08] <BluesKaj> so trying what , mark_ ?
[03:08] <LjL> nothlit: actually, no, i'll add it. i was just a bit unsure on a couple of things - there was a wiki page that confused me
[03:08] <mark_> kubuntu bluesKaj
[03:09] <nothlit> LjL, no in general, not the miniiso in particular
[03:09] <menteck> you see what you realy need to do is get VMware and intall it into linux then install windows inside VMware like i plane to do one of theses days
[03:09] <nothlit> That sounds horrible
[03:10] <nothlit> !qemu
[03:10] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[03:10] <nothlit> !kqemu
[03:10] <ubotu> kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[03:10] <mark_> i guess thats a bit complex if you are planning it
[03:10] <LjL> nothlit: well, inaccurate factoids are not good for sure, so i rather double check before adding them
[03:10] <nothlit> running windows inside linux sounds horrible no matter which method you use
[03:10] <menteck> but why
[03:10] <T3hWiz0rd> why's that?
[03:11] <T3hWiz0rd> if you have a system that can support it, its not a big deal.
[03:11] <nothlit> LjL, ahh... I just found a few I submitted very heavily modified is all
[03:11] <BluesKaj> mark_, don't do what i did ..try to get better access between partitions ...I kinda blew it ...now i cant even see my windows partition ...oh the beauty of linux ..whenya screw up , it's usually a doozie  :)
[03:12] <LjL> nothlit: !elaborate etc? we already had factoids very similar to those, and we merged things a bit
[03:12] <menteck> a dont tell him that
[03:12] <LjL> !nothing | nothlit, this is one we didn't merge, for instance
[03:12] <ubotu> nothlit, this is one we didn't merge, for instance: Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so. - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[03:12] <menteck>  you will scare him away
[03:12] <menteck> lol
[03:12] <menteck> and i am the one installing it
[03:13] <menteck> and your scaring me
[03:13] <mark_> i'm not getting scared yet, just dizzy
[03:13] <CSonicGo> lol
[03:13] <nothlit> LjL, hmm anyways I think there should be a warning somewhere about mounting to /media /mnt instead of subfolders inside, I've seen it happen a few times today
[03:13] <mark_> i seem to be going round in circles trying different things but getting nowhere
[03:13] <nothlit> LjL, its up to you guys of course
[03:14] <pacman_> anyone have a good recommendation for .flac to .mp3 converter?
[03:14] <LjL> nothlit: well, does anything extremely bad happen even if someone does that? the linked page does tell you to mount under /media/something
[03:14] <CSonicGo> audacity can do it now I think
[03:14] <mark_> mentek, what other installs have you tried and how were they
[03:14] <LjL> nothlit: basically the problem is, factoids need to be short in order to not look like spam themselves, and they tend to grow very easily. they should just point you to the relevant information, with some *very* basic hints
[03:15] <nothlit> LjL, dunno, haven't tried it, and people mostly had empty /mnt folders so
[03:15] <LjL> nothlit: admittedly, we don't have a decent page about mounting partitions, in my opinion. !fstab even links to a site that's not the ubuntu wiki
[03:15] <murchadh_bhaba> pacman_, soundkonverter I think!
[03:15] <menteck> other ones that i have tryed
[03:15] <LjL> nothlit, it really shouldn't cause damage, i think. what's "behind" the mount stays untouched
[03:15] <menteck> that worked?
[03:15] <nothlit> LjL, i could try inaccurately mounting something over a folder now
[03:15] <LjL> nothlit: one thing that should *not* be done otoh is mounting under /tmp ;-)
[03:15] <nothlit> LjL, ahh ok
[03:16] <mark_> that worked or didn't
[03:16] <menteck> working...
[03:16] <menteck> ok
[03:16] <nothlit> lool
[03:16] <soulrider> finaly~!
[03:16] <soulrider> got ubuntu up and running :P
[03:17] <soulrider> piece of advice to everyone, dont try mandriva :P
[03:17] <soulrider> !easysource
[03:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[03:17] <BluesKaj> mark..I'm just pi..ed. I 'll eventully gety helpto fix my problem. I 'm just telling you to be careful
[03:17] <LjL> nothlit: well... imho it's a bug with the way /tmp works, but it wasn't accepted as a bug :)
[03:17] <mark_> thanks Blues, partitions seem fine so far
[03:17] <luca> hi everyone
[03:17] <mark_> hi luca
[03:18] <bear-> hmmm
[03:19] <menteck> knoppics, slakware,redhat,mandreak and made on of my own
[03:19] <bear-> I need to see if there's WPA so I can access my AP
[03:19] <menteck> on is one
[03:19] <menteck> BRB
[03:19] <mark_> ok mentek
[03:19] <bear-> menteck: I remember starting off witih Slackware 3.4
[03:20] <LjL> !minimal | nothlit
[03:20] <ubotu> nothlit: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only the packages you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD for more information
[03:20] <momal> Anyone have an recommendations for good video editors under linux ?
[03:21] <nothlit> LjL, :D
[03:22] <menteck> back for some time
[03:24] <mark_> mentek, you made your own, how did that go
[03:25] <menteck> i downlaoded a kernal form kernal.org and just kind of did it from scrach not something every one wants to do
[03:25] <hex_st0rm> !adept crash fix
[03:25] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:26] <menteck> and i found a guid on the internet some place i will see if i can find it
[03:26] <mark_> sounds like fun
[03:27] <mark_> what country are you in mentek?
[03:27] <menteck> it was a lot of fun and i learnd so much
[03:27] <menteck> USA
[03:28] <mark_> I'm in the UK so it's 2:30am, I'm off to bed cos I got to work tomorrow
[03:28] <nothlit> suid/guid usage is unsafe btw
[03:28] <menteck> dam dude you stay up way to late
[03:28] <menteck> lol
[03:29] <menteck> but sleep is for the weak
[03:29] <mark_> I know, lol, I'll catch upi at the weekend
[03:29] <nothlit> LjL, neat, I mounted a fuse fs and even made a dir with the same name, but everything was preserved inside
[03:29] <mark_> oops up not upi
[03:29] <menteck> kk hope to see you soon
[03:30] <mark_> anyway, nice chatting, no doubt I'll be back soon, I dont give up easily
[03:30] <menteck> how else is up for some chatting
[03:30] <menteck> ????
[03:30] <mark_> take care & good night
[03:30] <menteck> you to mark
[03:30] <murchadh_bhaba> !cifs
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <nothlit> !smbfs
[03:31] <RoKFiT> does anyone here use cedega?
[03:31] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB
[03:31] <nothlit> !cedega | RoKFiT
[03:31] <ubotu> RoKFiT: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:31] <nothlit> !anyone
[03:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:31] <coreymon77> guys
[03:32] <coreymon77> im curious
[03:32] <coreymon77> is it possible to partition a drive used or windows without harming the data on it?
[03:32] <coreymon77> used for*
[03:32] <nothlit> !gparted | coreymon77, yes it is
[03:32] <ubotu> coreymon77, yes it is: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:32] <tijoe> i can't see my panel in xubuntu. can anyone help?
[03:32] <nothlit> coreymon77, the livecd has gparte on it
[03:33] <nothlit> #xubuntu?
[03:33] <BluesKaj> gparted is a live cd
[03:33] <coreymon77> oh
[03:33] <menteck> no it is not possible with out 3d part software. coreymom
[03:33] <coreymon77> because im introducing my friend to kubuntu
[03:33] <coreymon77> and he only has one drive
[03:33] <tijoe> yes
[03:33] <coreymon77> does the dapper livecd has this gparted thing?
[03:34] <nothlit> yes
[03:34] <nothlit> oh kubuntu uses qtparted
[03:34] <nothlit> but ntfs resizing should be fine
[03:34] <RoKFiT> do I have to have a cdrom to use cedega?
[03:35] <coreymon77> so the dapper livecd has qparted preinstalled?
[03:36] <coreymon77> cause i want to introduce him to kubuntu but dont want to damage his drive
[03:36] <coreymon77> does it?
[03:36] <RoKFiT> cedega is freezing on check for updates.
[03:38] <nothlit> I was told that it does
[03:38] <RoKFiT> and i can't mount my hd
[03:38] <bartkorn> Hi
[03:38] <nothlit> If not you can burn the gparted or ubuntu livecd to partition it first
[03:39] <coreymon77> of course he should back up everything first though
[03:40] <nothlit> lol sure
[03:40] <nothlit> but i don't
[03:40] <coreymon77> wouldnt hurt
[03:40] <coreymon77> so this will resize without damaging?
[03:40] <nothlit> Yup
[03:41] <nothlit> ntfsprogs/resize are highly tested
[03:41] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me with this error?...
[03:41] <RoKFiT> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[03:41] <RoKFiT> mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist
[03:41] <nothlit> they've actually defrag it for you too
[03:41] <nothlit> since the windows defraggers aren't good enough
[03:42] <pablo7> RokFiT: did you add the /dev/hda to /etc/fstab ?
[03:43] <morvok> hrm... when enabling option "fbdev" for X my log says device is /dev/fb0 is not found.
[03:43] <mike-kayaker> Installed kde in Bea very stable
[03:43] <morvok> but it is present
[03:43] <nothlit> !framebuffer
[03:43] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[03:43] <morvok> hehe
[03:43] <morvok> cool bot
[03:44] <CSonicGo> !xscreensaver
[03:44] <ubotu> xscreensaver: Automatic screensaver for X. In component main, is optional. Version 4.24-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 272 kB, installed size 2216 kB
[03:45] <CSonicGo> nice bot indee
[03:46] <jerp> When they say that Beryl is a fork of Compiz, what are they saying?
[03:47] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys is there a way to burn tracks crossfading in k3b?
[03:47] <morvok> that didn't help any.
[03:48] <pablo7> RoKFiT:!audacity
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> sorry i x;d out did anyone have an answer to my question?
[03:49] <nothlit> jerp, compiz and beryl used to be the same thing, the community didn't like what novell was doing with compiz so they took what was there and made their own version
[03:49] <ForzaPalermo> anyone know if u can crossfade tracks in k3b?
[03:49] <ForzaPalermo> and if so how?
[03:50] <jerp> I read today at Linux Journal that novell is getting real cllose with MS
[03:50] <nothlit> thats old news lol
[03:52] <menteck> what is this manesft83 thing in the start up about
[03:52] <morvok> all fixed
[03:52] <RoKFiT> would it be a bad idea for me to change from dash to bash as my shell script type?
[03:52] <RoKFiT> to accomidate a program
[03:52] <LjL> !dash
[03:52] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[03:54] <menteck> how do i login as root
[03:54] <LjL> Ubotu, tell menteck about root | menteck, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:54] <BluesKaj> tomorrow i'll ask about reagaining permission to access my NFTS partition ...to tired to handle any advice tonite ... nite all:)
[03:55] <BluesKaj> see NTFS
[03:56] <menteck> i would like to run as root anyway
[03:56] <menteck> and is that thing a bot
[03:56] <RoKFiT> how do i install wine?
[03:56] <RoKFiT> or is it pre-installed
[03:56] <RoKFiT> !wine
[03:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:56] <menteck> that is another Q i have
[03:56] <RoKFiT> how do i install wine?
[03:57] <nothlit> !synaptic | RoKFiT
[03:57] <ubotu> RoKFiT: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:57] <RoKFiT> which package
[03:57] <menteck> how do i get into root acount
[03:57] <RoKFiT> libwine?
[03:58] <RoKFiT> winefish
[03:58] <menteck> anyone
[03:58] <nothlit> wine rofl
[03:58] <nothlit> !info wine
[03:58] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[03:58] <nothlit> !sudo | menteck
[03:58] <ubotu> menteck: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:58] <RoKFiT> nothing is listed when i search for wine
[03:58] <nothlit> !repos | RoKFiT
[03:58] <ubotu> RoKFiT: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:58] <jerp> menteck: 'sudo' should do it
[03:58] <RoKFiT> all repos are enabled
[03:58] <menteck> well i know that but i would like to be in root
[03:59] <menteck>  i just have this thing about not haveing full control over my computer much like M$
[03:59] <jerp> being in root runs the risk of damages happening and systems breaking
[03:59] <RoKFiT> all repos are enabled, and when i search wine i find libwine and libwine-dev
[04:00] <nothlit> menteck, read the article linked?
[04:00] <nothlit> !repos | RoKFiT
[04:00] <ubotu> RoKFiT: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:00] <nothlit> !sudo | menteck
[04:00] <menteck> i know that but have made my own Linux before so i should be fine
[04:00] <ubotu> menteck: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:00] <menteck> never mind
[04:00] <menteck> i will find out on my own
[04:00] <RoKFiT> nothlit: they are enabled
[04:00] <menteck> thanx anyway
[04:00] <RoKFiT> all repos are enabled
[04:00] <mike1980> Hi guys could someone please help me.  I did this command "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" now I would like to remove it can anyone help please?
[04:00] <RoKFiT> nothlit: all of them
[04:00] <nothlit> RoKFiT, update you repos
[04:01] <nothlit> !info wine
[04:01] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[04:01] <RoKFiT> nothlit: how?
[04:01] <nothlit> RoKFiT, update as in synchronise
[04:01] <nothlit> RoKFiT, sudo aptitude update
[04:01] <nothlit> RoKFiT, its in the universe repo
[04:01] <menteck> what is the password to the root acount on this thing
[04:01] <novato182> good night  guys
[04:01] <menteck> is it the same as the one that i set for my self
[04:01] <jerp> menteck: it ahs to be made
[04:01] <jerp> has
[04:02] <nothlit> menteck, READ THE LINK
[04:02] <angasule> winehq has a repo for ubuntu which is up to date
[04:02] <nothlit> !sudo | menteck
[04:02] <ubotu> menteck: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:02] <nothlit> yeah it has .27
[04:03] <RoKFiT> nothlit: universe is enabled and wine is not showing up
[04:03] <mike1980> Hi guys could someone please help me.  I did this command "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" now I would like to remove it can anyone help please?
[04:03] <pacman> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <Chousuke> that doesn't help
[04:04] <menteck> i am so sorry for not doing what you guys told me
[04:04] <novato182> apt-get remove
[04:04] <mike1980> pacmanL ok thanksa I will give that a try
[04:04] <RoKFiT> nothlit:
[04:04] <menteck> i  read and now i now
[04:04] <mike1980> pacman: ok thanksa I will give that a try
[04:04] <pacman> *nods*
[04:04] <Chousuke> it will only remove the kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[04:04] <Chousuke> which is probably not what you want.
[04:05] <nothlit> RoKFiT, sudo aptitude install wine
[04:05] <nothlit> !purekde
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purekde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <nothlit> !puregnome
[04:05] <mike1980> Chousuke: I want to get rid of all the stuff it install
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <RoKFiT> no candidate version for wine
[04:05] <nothlit> mike1980, you need to go to psychocats.net
[04:05] <Chousuke> mike1980: you can try removing some kde libraries.
[04:06] <nothlit> mike1980, they'll tell you how
[04:06] <Chousuke> hm
[04:06] <nothlit> RoKFiT, you didn't get your sources.list right... put the contents in a pastebin
[04:06] <nothlit> !pastebin | RoKFiT
[04:06] <ubotu> RoKFiT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:06] <Chousuke> someone needs to write a deinstall-kubuntu-desktop script :P
[04:06] <RoKFiT> where is sources.list located
[04:06] <mike1980> Chousuke: I guess if I remove x it will not start up anyways on my server right?
[04:07] <Chousuke> mike1980: yeah.
[04:07] <Chousuke> if you remove X you will only have the command line .
[04:07] <RoKFiT> nothlit: where is it located
[04:07] <nothlit> RoKFiT, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <nothlit> RoKFiT, patience
[04:07] <mike1980> Chousuke: ya ok cool I just don't want to eat up cpu and ram on a web server but need the GUI to set up
[04:08] <nothlit> mike1980, why?
[04:08] <RoKFiT> nothlit: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37105/
[04:09] <mike1980> nothlit: why? waht part
[04:09] <mike1980> nothlit: why? what part
[04:09] <nothlit> RoKFiT, patience
[04:09] <nothlit> oh
[04:09] <RoKFiT> okay
[04:09] <nothlit> mike-kayaker, why do you need a gui to set it up
[04:10] <nothlit> RoKFiT, ok, run this command sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine
[04:10] <mike1980> nothlit: I like to click I am new Guy lol
[04:10] <malcolm> i need write access to my ntfs partition, can anyone help me?
[04:10] <nothlit> !nfts-3g | malcolm
[04:10] <Chousuke> mike1980: actually, setting up a server is mostly command line work
[04:10] <mike1980> nothlit: need pictures lol
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfts-3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <nothlit> !ntfs-3g | malcolm
[04:10] <Chousuke> mike1980: the GUI isn't going to help you much
[04:10] <ubotu> malcolm: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:11] <nothlit> well kcontrol has good tie ins to things like samba right?
[04:11] <mike1980> Chousuke: ya I noticed that after the fact woops
[04:11] <unix_infidel> nothlit: define "tie-ins"
[04:11] <unix_infidel> you should configure samba independently of a gui.
[04:11] <RoKFiT> nothlit: so what was the problem, did that just install wine?  and why didn't it show up in my repo search
[04:11] <mike1980> ok thanks guys for your help
[04:11] <nothlit> gui interface
[04:11] <mike1980> LaTeZ
[04:12] <nothlit> RoKFiT, you didn't update /synchronise
[04:12] <RoKFiT> how do i do that?
[04:12] <nothlit> RoKFiT, did you hit enter and did it work?
[04:12] <RoKFiT> yes it worked
[04:12] <nothlit> RoKFiT, then yes it installed wine, and you synchronise by doing sudo aptitude update
[04:13] <nothlit> also the computer automatically synchronises everyday
[04:13] <RoKFiT> but it didn't update the first time
[04:13] <RoKFiT> how do i open it with wine
[04:13] <mauro> !nvidia
[04:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:14] <shadowhywind> hay seeing someone talk bout nvidia, i have an issue
[04:14] <RoKFiT> nothlit: wine is still not installed
[04:14] <e1mer> anyone experience sound problems? sometimes its ok, sometimes its not working
[04:14] <nothlit> RoKFiT, aptitude show wine
[04:14] <shadowhywind> i can't start X on boot up, unless i reinstall the drivers. But it only works for that boot.
[04:14] <nothlit> RoKFiT, tell me if it says installed/not installed
[04:14] <malcolm> i'm using kubuntu, doi have dapperor edgy?
[04:15] <nothlit> malcolm, kubuntu is available for both
[04:15] <RoKFiT> no candidate version found for wine State: not a real package
[04:15] <malcolm> how do i know what i have?
[04:15] <nothlit> !version | malcolm
[04:15] <ubotu> malcolm: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[04:16] <nothlit> RoKFiT, ok, run kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list .. and change every us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[04:17] <nothlit> RoKFiT, then run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine
[04:17] <nothlit> RoKFiT, the us archive is sort of broken
[04:17] <RoKFiT> how?
[04:18] <RoKFiT> does kubuntu use synaptic?
[04:19] <nothlit> !adept | RoKFiT
[04:19] <ubotu> RoKFiT: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:19] <nothlit> RoKFiT, just run those commands i told you in order
[04:21] <bgsteffens> is libdvdcss not available for 64 bit kubuntu?
[04:21] <crimsun_> not by default
[04:22] <crimsun_> you have to compile it from source yourself.
[04:22] <RoKFiT> nothlit:  are you there?
[04:22] <bgsteffens> unbelievable
[04:22] <RoKFiT> nothlit: did i mention i'm on x86_64
[04:22] <bgsteffens> i don't understand how so many people have the time to mess with linux.
[04:23] <crimsun_> bgsteffens: most of us simply don't; we sacrifice other things (yanno, opportunity cost...)
[04:24] <bgsteffens> >_<
[04:24] <bgsteffens> seems like all the simple little things i want to be able to do
[04:24] <bgsteffens> takes 2 hours of asking questions, reading forums, trying things, not working, etc
[04:24] <CSonicGo> heh
[04:24] <CSonicGo> it takes time
[04:24] <bgsteffens> i don't even want to TRY the more complicated things i wanted to do with linux
[04:25] <CSonicGo> the only beef I have with linux is the Nvidia with Xorg
[04:25] <CSonicGo> .;(
[04:27] <unix_infidel> CSonicGo: that tends to work really well for everyone else.
[04:27] <lexi__> hi @all. just installed latest kernel security updates for edgy. at the end apt installl called update-initramfs what caused these error-messages: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/5945/ . the resulting initrd.img is not bootable.  help is very much appreciated :)
[04:28] <CSonicGo> unix_infidel: not for my 6100
[04:28] <CSonicGo> and my widescreen LCD
[04:28] <CSonicGo> :(
[04:28] <unix_infidel> CSonicGo: maybe instead of just re-iterating what you said earlier you could give me some specifics about your problem.
[04:29] <unix_infidel> eg, the errors that pop up when you use the driver?
[04:30] <CSonicGo> oh
[04:30] <Fleebailey33> is there a linux amd64 chan?
[04:30] <CSonicGo> heh it never fits to my screen
[04:30] <CSonicGo> I have a 1680X1050 screen
[04:30] <CSonicGo> and it never fills the whole thing
[04:31] <bartkorn> why here aren't any ops ?
[04:31] <unix_infidel> Fleebailey33: you mean generic Linux for AMD64? Doubtful, we just group you wanna be instruction set-ers along with the rest of us x86_32 folks :)
[04:32] <CSonicGo> !nvidia
[04:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:32] <unix_infidel> bartkorn: Ops dont beleive in showing their teeth unless they have to I guess.
[04:32] <bgsteffens> so how would i go about compiling libdvdcss for amd64? does kubuntu come with gcc preinstalled?
[04:33] <CSonicGo> !wine
[04:33] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:33] <CSonicGo> !Directx
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Directx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <CSonicGo> heh
[04:34] <bartkorn> i'm using amd64 and everything that just not working is w32codecs, everything else is ok
[04:34] <bgsteffens> i'm considering just reinstalling kubuntu, 32bit version
[04:35] <pablo7> bgsteffens: works for me.
[04:35] <bgsteffens> think that will make my life much easier?
[04:36] <bgsteffens> lol
[04:36] <bartkorn> no
[04:36] <CSonicGo> that's what I use
[04:36] <unix_infidel> 64 vs. 32 is a life choice.
[04:36] <unix_infidel> Depends on whether you have a life outside of linux to begin with :)
[04:37] <bartkorn> it would say that your cpu is less powerfull that it really is if you are yousing 2 core
[04:37] <Fleebailey33> becuase some stuff like nerolinux is only x86-32
[04:37] <pablo7> unix_infidel: is ppc then suicide?
[04:37] <Fleebailey33> once went there
[04:37] <Fleebailey33> indeed it was
[04:37] <Fleebailey33> just run os x
[04:38] <Fleebailey33> not a bad os
[04:38] <unix_infidel> pablo7: what's OS X not doing for you that linux can?
[04:38] <bgsteffens> challenging their patience!!
[04:38] <bgsteffens> lol
[04:38] <Fleebailey33> wow new os x has four desktops!!!!
[04:38] <pablo7> unix_infidel: remove $ from wallet.
[04:38] <Fleebailey33> like linux hasnt been doing that with 20 desktops for how long?
[04:39] <bartkorn> Fleebailey33: k3b is ok, why do you need nero ? ;d
[04:39] <bgsteffens> i've never used nero on any platform besides windows but from what i've done with k3b so far
[04:39] <bgsteffens> it beats the hell out of any version of nero/windows i've seen
[04:39] <blue> hi guys, i just installed kubuntu on my ibook g4. when X starts up, i get pink artifacts all over my screen. switching to a vt, and then back to get again fixes it. anyone else have these issues?
[04:40] <CSonicGo> I do
[04:40] <CSonicGo> I just live with it :X
[04:40] <blue> :/
[04:40] <CSonicGo> it goes away after a while
[04:41] <RoKFiT> does anyone know how to edit the K menu icon?
[04:41] <Fleebailey33> startx
[04:41] <Fleebailey33> CSonicGo: ?
[04:41] <bartkorn> blue: use your colour sticks ;p
[04:41] <blue> ?
[04:42] <bartkorn> blue: like this from school ...
[04:42] <Jucato> RoKFiT: <apt> Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx
[04:42] <CSonicGo> heh
[04:42] <blue> i still have no idea what colour sticks are lol. oh well i'll go check the forums again to find help
[04:43] <Fleebailey33> CSonicGo: it worked i take it
[04:43] <bartkorn> blue: never draw ? poor childhood ? ;d
[04:44] <CSonicGo> yes
[04:44] <bartkorn> c ya xD
[04:45] <CSonicGo> heh I'm blocked from privmsg
[04:45] <CSonicGo> that's like, lame
[04:45] <CSonicGo> oh well
[04:45] <Fleebailey33> oh
[04:45] <Fleebailey33> lame
[04:45] <Fleebailey33> well all i said was
[04:45] <Jucato> CSonicGo: you need to register your nick in order to PM someone on freenode
[04:45] <Fleebailey33> i had a powerbook g4 i ran it on
[04:46] <Fleebailey33> freaked me out
[04:46] <CSonicGo> heh
[04:46] <CSonicGo> I see
[04:46] <Fleebailey33> there is a perminent way to fix it
[04:46] <Fleebailey33> or it might fix itself
[04:46] <Fleebailey33> brb
[04:46] <Jucato> !register | CSonicGo
[04:46] <ubotu> CSonicGo: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:46] <bgsteffens> can anyone help get me started compiling libdvdcss for amd64?
[04:49] <menteck> how do i turn on hardware acceloration
[04:50] <ahriman> How to get bash completion when starting a command with e.g sudo
[04:50] <menteck> video card acceloration
[04:50] <wicketnezz> how can i tell if im using linux x86 or linux x86_64?
[04:50] <ahriman> menteck what is your video card?
[04:51] <shadowhywind> hay all i need some help
[04:51] <menteck> one min
[04:51] <shadowhywind> Is it
[04:51] <shadowhywind> "safe" to remove the linux-restricted-modules?
[04:51] <crimsun_> if you don't use hardware that requires them for functionality, sure.
[04:52] <crimsun_> namely, atheros wifi, nvidia/ati graphics
[04:52] <crimsun_> or ipw3945 wifi
[04:52] <shadowhywind> thats the thing. I belive that package is causing my nvidia driver issues
[04:52] <crimsun_> in what sense?
[04:52] <CSonicGo> to the person that made power supply cables so hard to pull out: )!@#*!@)*!!
[04:52] <shadowhywind> its is coming up with an API mismatch
[04:53] <shadowhywind> the nvidia kernel module has one version, while X module has another
[04:53] <crimsun_> did you compile the Nvidia driver yourself or something?
[04:53] <shadowhywind> compiled my self
[04:53] <crimsun_> then that's why.
[04:53] <crimsun_> you need to recompile nvidia.ko
[04:54] <shadowhywind> how would i go about doing that
[04:54] <crimsun_> follow the directions you used to compile them like you did initially
[04:54] <shadowhywind> because i have been running like 4 months with no problems, till i did some upgrades today
[04:54] <crimsun_> yes, we had some security updates today for the kernel.
[04:54] <shadowhywind> the only command that i did to compile the driver was sh NVIDIA<stuff> from nvidias website
[04:55] <menteck> how can i find out what video card i have
[04:56] <ahriman> What to do to make use of bash completion when starting with e.g 'sudo apt-g[tab] '
[04:56] <shadowhywind> so any ideas crimsun_
[04:57] <crimsun_> shadowhywind: I just told you.
[04:57] <ahriman> menteck: try with 'lspci | grep VGA'
[04:57] <crimsun_> shadowhywind: the same directions you used last time will suffice.
[04:57] <shadowhywind> but i allready recompiled it. It works for this boot, but once i reboot i get the same issue
[04:57] <ahriman> shadowhywind: remove the nvidia driver from linux-restricted-modules
[04:57] <ahriman> and recompile
[04:58] <ahriman> the driver from nvidia
[04:58] <shadowhywind> how would i remove it?
[04:58] <menteck> found it it is Nvideo tnt 2
[04:58] <menteck> PCi
[04:58] <menteck> 32m
[04:58] <crimsun_> note how l-r-m is mounted on volatile.
[04:58] <ahriman> shadowhywind: get in to the directory nvidia driver is located under linux-restricted-driver (find?) and just rm nvidia.ko something
[04:59] <menteck> nvideo TNT2 modole 64 32m PCI is my video  card
[04:59] <shadowhywind> ok, i feel like a total noob asking this, But huh
[04:59] <ahriman> menteck: download http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9629/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9629-pkg1.run
[05:00] <ahriman> menteck:  and run 'sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9629-pkg1.run' but you need to exit from X before installing the driver
[05:00] <menteck> will that realy work it is an realy old card
[05:01] <ahriman> menteck: The installer will ask you if you want to fix your xconfig file automatic at the last step, choose yes
[05:01] <menteck> ok
[05:01] <ahriman> menteck: yes, acording to nvidia this package has support for your card
[05:01] <shadowhywind> ok i am in my linux-restricted-modules
[05:02] <shadowhywind> delete the nvidia and nvidia_legacy files?
[05:02] <ahriman> yes
[05:02] <menteck> how do i get out of X
[05:02] <shadowhywind> actraully they are directories
[05:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[05:02] <shadowhywind> delete everything that is in the directory?
[05:02] <CSonicGo> yeah, HOW DO you get out of X?
[05:03] <shadowhywind> CSonicGo end session
[05:03] <EnsignRedshirt> I just downloaded 6.10 from www.kubuntu.org/download.php, but I can't find an md5sum listing there.
[05:03] <ahriman> shadowhywind: I think you only need to remove one single file.. nvidia.ko or nvidia.o
[05:03] <CSonicGo> did that
[05:03] <CSonicGo> but it's "still running" isn't it?
[05:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Is the md5sum on the kubuntu web page somewhere?
[05:03] <CSonicGo> I need to stop it so I can install the official linux driver.
[05:04] <CSonicGo> why is that such a pain to install? :(
[05:04] <shadowhywind> ahriman neather one as a nvidia.ko or .o they have nv.o, But if i don'tneed the files anyways, would it be safe to remove them all
[05:05] <ahriman> menteck: press ctrl+alt + F2, that vill take you to the console. type "telinit 1" this will shut down x and other unneccessary stuff. When you finis, type "telinit 3"
[05:05] <EnsignRedshirt> Nevermind, I found it... I had to click on the "Other installation options" to get to the page that has the md5sums.
[05:05] <ahriman> It should work, but test it :)
[05:05] <menteck> thanx i will get on it
[05:06] <ahriman> shadowhywind: remove them, if you get problem, just apt-get linux-restricted-driver-something (check it with apt-cache search linux-restricted) and install it then
[05:07] <wicketnezz> i could use some help when someone gets freed up
[05:08] <ahriman> CSonicGo: type telinit 1 from console to shutdown X, it's the easiest way
[05:09] <ahriman> CSonicGo: then when you are done. type telinit 3
[05:09] <ahriman> CSonicGo: telinit 2 when you are donw
[05:09] <CSonicGo> then the installer bitches that it isn't in telinit 3
[05:10] <CSonicGo> so what do? :(
[05:10] <ahriman> hehe
[05:10] <GWillakers> `
[05:10] <ahriman> CSonicGo: using gdm or kdm?
[05:10] <CSonicGo> kdm
[05:10] <menteck> what happen it reset my comuputer when i inter telint 1
[05:11] <ahriman> CSonicGo:  /etc/init.d/kdm stop  | when it is done.. just ps -e | grep Xorg and then kill -TERM pid
[05:12] <CSonicGo> you'd think they'd put that in the installer. :)
[05:12] <CSonicGo> heh.
[05:12] <ahriman> menteck: do as I told CSonicGo
[05:12] <CSonicGo> yes
[05:12] <ahriman> CSonicGo: what installer?
[05:12] <menteck> do what?
[05:12] <menteck> i am so lost
[05:13] <menteck> sorry
[05:13] <ahriman> menteck: are you using gnome or kde?
[05:14] <menteck> kde i found another way when it starts up click on the menu and it asks you if you like to login cosloe and click on it and your in console
[05:14] <ahriman> menteck: :)
[05:15] <ahriman> menteck: then go and install the drivers
[05:15] <CSonicGo> the nvidea installer
[05:15] <menteck> so i am in console mode know thanx for the help
[05:15] <CSonicGo> the "official" one you know
[05:15] <John-Z> Im so fat.. I disgust myself.
[05:15] <John-Z> :(
[05:15] <ahriman> CSonicGo: just /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then kill the X
[05:16] <CSonicGo> I'm not at that terminal at the moment, I will be soon though.
[05:16] <CSonicGo> so thanks :D
[05:16] <shadowhywind> Thank you all. It worked!
[05:16] <menteck> my card is not supported by this drive set
[05:16] <shadowhywind> *writes it down for future refrence
[05:16] <ahriman> you welcome
[05:16] <ahriman> menteck: tnt2 ?
[05:17] <menteck> here is what it says
[05:18] <GWillakers> Fix it John
[05:18] <menteck> the nevidia riva tnt2 model 64 pro gpu is supported through the nvidia lagacy linux graphics driver
[05:18] <John-Z> I just keep eating cheeseburgers.. AHHH!
[05:18] <menteck> the driver i have will ingnor this gpu
[05:18] <John-Z> Sleep all day.. eat shit food.. sleep more.
[05:18] <menteck> that is about the some of it
[05:18] <CSonicGo> will Ubuntu ever carry the "official" NVidia drivers in the future
[05:18] <GWillakers> John, how old ru?
[05:19] <John-Z> 24.
[05:19] <John-Z> Im doomed.
[05:19] <menteck> now what
[05:19] <John-Z> I drink a 6 pack of beer a day.
[05:19] <John-Z> OH GOD!
[05:19] <GWillakers> I'm 50 and lived with excess weight all of my life.  I recently lost 40lbs
[05:19] <John-Z> The worste part of it all.. My girlfriend still loves me and still wants to have sex with me.
[05:19] <John-Z> That doesnt help..
[05:20] <John-Z> I need to lose 25 pounds.
[05:20] <GWillakers> You're right... send her my way!
[05:20] <John-Z> Maybe I should just pick up a nasty speed habit.. hrmm.
[05:20] <John-Z> haha
[05:20] <CSonicGo> haha
[05:20] <menteck> what do i do now
[05:20] <John-Z> Menteck, what are you working on?
[05:20] <menteck> do i get the drivers for this one or what
[05:20] <CSonicGo> "yeah he was 500 pounds, then he got into drugs..."
[05:20] <CSonicGo> "he's not 120 and I worry about him"
[05:20] <John-Z> lol
[05:20] <CSonicGo> *now
[05:21] <CSonicGo> jenny craig ain't got nothin on it
[05:21] <menteck> getting hardware acceloration working
[05:21] <John-Z> I'd be better off if my lady would ride my ass about the beer and fast food.. AHG!
[05:21] <John-Z> What type of card?
[05:21] <menteck> it looks like the persion helping me has left me
[05:21] <menteck> dam it
[05:21] <John-Z> ooh, that sucks.
[05:21] <menteck> well letts see
[05:21] <John-Z> Dont you hate that.. people just enter .. and then leave your lives.
[05:22] <John-Z> *life
[05:22] <John-Z> Makes me want to puke.
[05:22] <CSonicGo> yeah
[05:22] <menteck> well lets see if i can do on my own
[05:22] <GWillakers> that would help your weight problem
[05:22] <John-Z> haha
[05:22] <menteck> i willl probley fuck up a crash my system but thats fine
[05:22] <John-Z> See.. now you think I have a weight problem.. and you havent even met me.. oh gosh.. damnit!
[05:23] <John-Z> You dont EVEN know what I LOOK like!
[05:23] <John-Z> You heartless bastards!
[05:23] <CSonicGo> heheh
[05:23] <GWillakers> Think how I feel. I lost 40lbs and STILL have 25 to go.
[05:23] <menteck> both of you shut up
[05:23] <John-Z> OH MAN!
[05:23] <John-Z> You're huge..
[05:23] <menteck> your both fat
[05:23] <John-Z> I feel sorry for you.
[05:23] <John-Z> lol
[05:23] <menteck> lol
[05:23] <GWillakers> why, i'm just as fat as you now!
[05:23] <GWillakers> :)
[05:23] <John-Z> Take it BACK!
[05:23] <John-Z> oh shit..
[05:24] <wicketnezz> hey if someone can get this ati radeion x1300 card work on my card ill take it back
[05:24] <menteck> i feel all alone now
[05:24] <John-Z> this isnt #weight_loss, wtf..
[05:24] <GWillakers> I'm on my way down... u?
[05:24] <GWillakers> :)
[05:24] <John-Z> On the UP AND UP!
[05:24] <wicketnezz> lol
[05:24] <John-Z> Woohoo BABY!
[05:24] <menteck> lol
[05:24] <GWillakers> give up beer... drink wine
[05:24] <John-Z> Ok seriously.. someone write some code to make me lose weight.
[05:24] <John-Z> Oh man..
[05:24] <John-Z> Thats a great idea..
[05:25] <menteck> dont eat anything
[05:25] <John-Z> I tried that.. I ended up drinking the 6 pack and the bottle of wine.
[05:25] <John-Z> I can not resist beer.. when that crisp ice cold liquid hits my taste buds.. oooohhhhhh!
[05:25] <John-Z> I have a problem. Seriously.. all jokes aside.. Im pathetic.
[05:26] <GWillakers> I hear you... don't have any around. it's easier
[05:26] <wicketnezz> is someone freed up at the moment and willing to help me with this video card issue im having
[05:26] <John-Z> We're all too busy making fun of how disgustingly fat I am.. no free time dude. Sorry
[05:26] <wicketnezz> ill give you a super size fry if you help
[05:27] <wicketnezz> :)
[05:27] <GWillakers> we're going to rename the channel #fat_linux_geeks
[05:27] <menteck> well you know if they could make a weight loss beer then we will be rich
[05:27] <John-Z> wicketnezz: DEAL!
[05:27] <menteck> do it do it
[05:27] <John-Z> Paypal me 99 cents to john.z@hotmail.com
[05:28] <John-Z> Then we'll talk.
[05:28] <wicketnezz> check that
[05:28] <wicketnezz> if you help me fix this
[05:28] <GWillakers> it's in the mail!
[05:28] <John-Z> Whats the deal?
[05:28] <wicketnezz> ill order a large pizza in your area and have it delivered to your home
[05:28] <wicketnezz> you wont even have to go to mcdonalds
[05:28] <menteck> lol
[05:28] <John-Z> OH SHIT!
[05:28] <John-Z> Lets get it on baby!
[05:29] <John-Z> How may I help you?
[05:29] <wicketnezz> lol
[05:29] <John-Z> For real though, pizza aside.. as I just ate 3 double cheeseburgers..
[05:29] <John-Z> What kind of problem are you having?
[05:29] <wicketnezz> mmmmmmm doublecheese burgers
[05:30] <John-Z> Im burping bits of burger up here and there..
[05:30] <John-Z> Its like a tasty little after meal treat each time.
[05:30] <GWillakers> eat slowly. wait between cheeseburgers at least 20minutes
[05:30] <GWillakers> it can take 20minutes for your brain to register that you're not hungry anymore
[05:30] <wicketnezz> im trying to install a ati radeon x1300 on a dell inspiron e1505 i have tried tips from various websites and still not been able to get the card functioning
[05:30] <wicketnezz> so i decided to do a fresh install and seek help
[05:31] <wicketnezz> im running kde on kubuntu 6.10
[05:31] <John-Z> Does ATI provide a linux driver for this model?
[05:31] <wicketnezz> yes
[05:31] <John-Z> Any success with it?
[05:32] <wicketnezz> well i just found there site for it
[05:32] <wicketnezz> and dont know if i want the ati driver installer
[05:32] <wicketnezz> xfree4.3 drivers or x.org.6.8 drivers
[05:33] <CSonicGo> my fan is making a weird noise..
[05:33] <levi_> For some reason I can't mount samba shares from windows box to linux box... says "Access Denied"... any thoughts?
[05:34] <wicketnezz> should i just go with the driver installer?
[05:34] <John-Z> I would.
[05:34] <John-Z> I have my ATI driver installed.
[05:34] <John-Z> In a Dell latitude d600
[05:34] <John-Z> Works perfect.
[05:34] <John-Z> What version of kubuntu are you using?
[05:35] <John-Z> Which release?
[05:35] <John-Z> Just saw, 6.10
[05:35] <heroilton> [02:37]  <John-Z> I have my ATI driver installe
[05:35] <John-Z> brb
[05:35] <John-Z> work.
[05:37] <wicketnezz> still kinda new to linux
[05:37] <menteck> i am back
[05:37] <TehKewl1> something has happened to my audio recording settings, I can't record anything through any microphone.
[05:37] <wicketnezz> will a .run work on kubuntu without altering it?
[05:37] <TehKewl1> it happened when I installed audacity last night
[05:40] <TehKewl1> wait, now it workd
[05:40] <TehKewl1> *works
[05:40] <menteck> hey anyone know anything about drivers
[05:40] <menteck> Nvidai one
[05:41] <menteck> hello anyone
[05:41] <menteck> are you there
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> gatsby: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper
[05:42] <menteck> your back
[05:42] <menteck> what is this link
[05:43] <menteck> hello anyone here
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> menteck: doing some wireless help...
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> it sucks
[05:43] <menteck> wireless help
[05:43] <menteck> ?
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless | menteck
[05:44] <ubotu> menteck: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:45] <menteck> cool stuff
[05:46] <menteck> just when every you get the time
[05:47] <noxwayxhome> hello
[05:47] <menteck> hello
[05:48] <noxwayxhome> how do you get into root
[05:49] <menteck> !sudo
[05:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:49] <aseigo> sudo -i
[05:49] <Admiral_Chicago> !sudo | noxwayxhome
[05:49] <ubotu> noxwayxhome: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:49] <noxwayxhome> ok
[05:49] <noxwayxhome> But i was woundering if some one could just tell me
[05:49] <menteck> well i can
[05:50] <menteck> i just asked that one my self
[05:50] <Dr_willis> sudo -s
[05:50] <Dr_willis> gives a root shell
[05:50] <menteck> fine take my time to shine from me
[05:51] <noxwayxhome> cool it worked
[05:52] <menteck> why couldnt anyone just told me that no i had to laern it the hard way
[05:52] <noxwayxhome> lo
[05:52] <noxwayxhome> lol
[05:53] <Dr_willis> Been reading up on MythTV lately
[05:53] <menteck> any one know anything about old Nvidia drivers
[05:53] <Dr_willis> menteck,  thats a little vague. :)
[05:53] <Dr_willis> they are 'old' heh heh
[05:54] <menteck> i have a video card that want do hardware accelration and i cant get to work right cuzz i can find drivers
[05:54] <Dr_willis> and this video card is a ?
[05:54] <menteck> the nevidia riva tnt2 model 64 pro gpu
[05:55] <menteck> PCI
[05:55] <wicketnezz> what would i need to type to install the file ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86_64.run?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> bash whatever.run (may work)
[05:55] <Dr_willis> or chmod +x whatever.run
[05:55] <Dr_willis> ./whatever.run
[05:55] <menteck> sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86_64.run
[05:56] <Dr_willis> You have read up on the !ati factoid and ati wiki pages?
[05:56] <blueillusion> hi guys, how can i install unstable packages? there are some apps that i want, but i need the unstable versions.  Is it possible to "unmask" only certain packages like in gentoo?
[05:56] <digi|tize> I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10.1 but the partition editor doesn't recognize the partition on the desired hd, which is an ntfs partition.  the hd info (drive maker and model) loads up, but not the actual partition, as a result i'm unable to resize the partition and setup more partitions for linux.  any ideas?
[05:56] <menteck> so do you know anything about my card
[05:57] <menteck> Dr
[05:57] <menteck> ?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> menteck,  id say do some googling.   I dont think that thing is supported by the X drivers now... but not the new nvidia drivers.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> given how old and slow it is anyway.... well..  What are you expecting to do with it. :)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Hmm I think that !nvidia page mentioned that card.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:59] <menteck> it is my spare system the agp slot on the mother bord is is no good
[06:00] <Dr_willis> If your graphics card is at the end of  this list of cards (marked as "legacy"), you will need to install nvidia-glx-legacy. Otherwise, install nvidia-glx.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[06:00] <menteck> it is at the bottom
[06:00] <menteck> now what
[06:01] <Dr_willis> wellhmm...  read.. :P
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases.
[06:01] <digi|tize> Dr_willis: any idea? qtparted doesn't recognize the partition type, so i cannot resize
[06:01] <menteck> so how do i get these drivers
[06:02] <Dr_willis> menteck,  install the nvidia-glx-legacy package like the directions say.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:02] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 2998 kB, installed size 9832 kB
[06:02] <Dr_willis> digi|tize not some odd ball system? or drive setup?
[06:03] <digi|tize> it's a 120gb hd, only 1 partition setup as ntfs
[06:03] <digi|tize> my main hd is read fine
[06:03] <Dr_willis> may want to try to scandisk/defrag it.. and pray. :)
[06:04] <digi|tize> it's my boot hd with windows and 2 ntfs partitions
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Ive almost totally dumped windows.
[06:04] <digi|tize> well i did at one point, and for some strange reason went back
[06:04] <digi|tize> but given ubuntu, and all linux's for that matter, progress on the desktop i was compelled for a dual boot
[06:05] <digi|tize> especially with easy read/write on ntfs
[06:05] <digi|tize> hmmm, i guess i'll try defrag
[06:06] <digi|tize> i'm correct in saying that ubuntu/kubuntu has read/write access to ntfs, right?
[06:06] <crimsun_> no
[06:06] <crimsun_> read, yes. write, no.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> I set up my windows  to read/write to ext2/3 :)
[06:08] <gatsby> i'm trying to install ndiswrapper for a driver
[06:08] <digi|tize> hmmm, i might just have to setup an external hd for kubuntu
[06:08] <digi|tize> thanks for the help :)
[06:08] <gatsby> and working on removing an old driver that i don't need
[06:09] <gatsby> I keep getting this "
[06:09] <gatsby> ndiswrapper -e netrtxpo
[06:09] <gatsby> couldn't delete /etc/ndiswrapper/netrtxpo: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[06:11] <menteck> ok dr
[06:11] <menteck> there is no admin
[06:11] <menteck> section
[06:11] <wicketnezz> hmmm
[06:11] <wicketnezz> okay i did the install
[06:11] <wicketnezz> and rebooted
[06:13] <menteck> Dr willis
[06:13] <wicketnezz> but when i do fglrxinfo i get Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:13] <wicketnezz> im assuming that means its didnt work
[06:13] <menteck> are you still here
[06:14] <Dr_willis> admin section? huh?
[06:14] <menteck> you sent me to a site and it says to go here but here dos not exist
[06:14] <Dr_willis> what site where?
[06:14] <menteck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-d3968a4d3bed6eeef4b10fd3202bcdf313b1e75d
[06:15] <Dr_willis> The nvidia site? it basicially said install the  nvidia-glx-legacy pacakge for  the old card
[06:16] <Dr_willis> 'install and activate drivers'
[06:16] <Dr_willis> 4. You will install either nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx. If your graphics card is at the end of [WWW]  this list of cards (marked as "legacy"), you will need to install nvidia-glx-legacy. Otherwise, install nvidia-glx
[06:16] <noiesmo> does anyone know why http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy-plf is unavailable
[06:16] <menteck> i can get to the nvidia gxl legacy
[06:16] <menteck> it not comeing up
[06:17] <menteck> i can get the nvidia glx
[06:17] <menteck> but no the other one
[06:17] <Dr_willis> noiesmo,  a few weeks ago plf was considering dropping support for edgy.. not sure what all happened.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> !info nvidia-glx
[06:17] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[06:17] <Dr_willis> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:17] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 2998 kB, installed size 9832 kB
[06:18] <noiesmo> Dr_willis, well maybe that did happen just went to update and it's down or well gone
[06:18] <Dr_willis> " In component multiverse,  " - you need to have the Multiverse repositories enabled.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> noiesmo,  i though they found a maintainer.. but not checked on it in a few weeks
[06:18] <menteck> how do i get that enable
[06:19] <Dr_willis> menteck,  in those docs they mention how to enable restricted.. do the same thing for 'multiverse' or read up on how ubuntu handles the repos at....
[06:19] <Dr_willis> !repo
[06:19] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:20] <Dr_willis> Has easysource site updated to support edgy yet?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[06:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[06:21] <noiesmo> Dr_willis, ok so I've been a mushroom :)  i take it that edgy has gone stable and feisty has become develop
[06:21] <Dr_willis> noiesmo,  yep.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Edgy is working very well for me.
[06:21] <menteck> i hate my life
[06:21] <noiesmo> Dr_willis, ok so i will just comment out me plf and go with that for now
[06:21] <wicketnezz> im starting to hate this ati card
[06:22] <noiesmo> Dr_willis, do you know if can upgrade from edgy to feisty easy
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Heh.. ive had some decent luck with my ati cards
[06:22] <menteck> Enable restricted packages
[06:22] <menteck> 
[06:22] <menteck> The NVIDIA drivers are in the "restricted" section of the Ubuntu package repository, so before you will be able to install the drivers, you must enable this section on your system.
[06:22] <menteck> 
[06:22] <menteck>    1.
[06:22] <menteck> 
[06:22] <Dr_willis> noiesmo,  i wouldent bother at this time.
[06:22] <menteck>       Select the System menu at the top of the screen.
[06:22] <menteck>    2.
[06:22] <menteck> 
[06:22] <menteck>       Select Administration then Synaptic Package Manager. Enter your password when prompted.
[06:22] <menteck>    3.
[06:22] <menteck> 
[06:22] <menteck>       In the package manager, select the Settings menu, then Repositories.
[06:22] <menteck>    4.
[06:22] <noiesmo> Dr_willis, k thanks for the info :)
[06:22] <menteck> 
[06:22] <Dr_willis> menteck,  they seem to be in 2 DIFFERENT repositories
[06:22] <menteck>       In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button.
[06:22] <menteck>    5.
[06:22] <menteck> 
[06:22] <menteck>       In the Edit Repository dialog, ensure that the Restricted copyright box is checked, then press OK.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> menteck,  and now most of the channel has you on ignore for flooding.
[06:22] <menteck>    6.
[06:22] <menteck> 
[06:22] <menteck>       Press OK to close the Software Preferences dialog, when Synaptic asks you to reload the package database, say yes.
[06:22] <menteck>   i cant do this
[06:23] <menteck> sorry i just have to figgur this out
[06:23] <wicketnezz> i went to do the aticonfig --initial and its saying that Found fglrx primary device section, Nothing to do, terminating.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> install synaptic, may make it easier.. or manually edit your sources.list
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Learning how the repos/package manager works - is a good thing to learn.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> !multiverse
[06:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:23] <menteck> i give up
[06:23] <Dr_willis> you can learn to use a gui tool.. or learn to edit 1 file with an editor..
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I tend to go the editor route
[06:23] <wicketnezz> can you help me dr_willis since youve had good luck with yours?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> wicketnezz,  all ive done is followed the !ati wiki page. :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> at least you aint giving up.. lol. :)
[06:24] <wicketnezz> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_driver <- this one?
[06:24] <wicketnezz> oh no im not giving up
[06:24] <Dr_willis> lets see...
[06:24] <Dr_willis> !ati
[06:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <wicketnezz> xgl is far to sexy to give up on it
[06:25] <Dr_willis> i dont find XGL worth the effort.. sorry to say..
[06:25] <Dr_willis> and i hear its ATI support is rather... flakey
[06:25] <noxwayxhome> hey dr i have been in this room for about four hours and that guy has been trying to get some help and it just an't working for him
[06:25] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx  and sudo apt-get install fglrx-control   - is about all ive had to do.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> noxwayxhome,  that last url i posted had a step by step way to  enable multiverse..   from what i 'saw' he dident even look at it.. so... well... to each his own.. ive been spending the last 3 days reading MythTV docs.. so :) im a reader kind of guy.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> I do think the installers should just ask to enable all the repos. :)
[06:27] <Dr_willis> but thats a 'no no' i guess for support.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> people just have a tendency to be to focused on 'doing what i need NOW' and not learning the skills ..
[06:28] <noxwayxhome> dr well i am menteck and i have not given up i am sorry for this
[06:28] <Dr_willis> heh..
[06:28] <noxwayxhome> i will read the the page you are right
[06:29] <noxwayxhome> Dr_willis
[06:29] <Dr_willis> ya check that last url yet? it had kubuntu/adept guide for enbaling multiverse..    I will pated my sources.list to a pastebin site for ya.
[06:29] <wicketnezz> the problem that im running into dr is that the OpenGL vendor string: is saying Mesa Project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:29] <noxwayxhome> thanx for the help
[06:29] <wicketnezz> it should be saying something about radeon
[06:31] <Dr_willis> noxwayxhome,  in 'short' you check the apt.sources file and where each line says 'universe' you also put 'multiverse' at the end. (and remove the # at the start of the line)  my example apt.sources file is.............
[06:31] <Dr_willis> la da dee.. pastebin is so slow.. :)
[06:32] <intelikey> broken festival.
[06:32] <intelikey> SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_don_diphone
[06:32] <intelikey> festival: fatal error exiting.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I dont even think i got multiverse enabled here...
[06:32] <Dr_willis> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[06:32] <Dr_willis> is the kind of lines to look for.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> wow pastebin timed out.. *sigh*
[06:33] <alaa_> hello
[06:33] <alaa_> this is a noob question but does anybody know how to open network manager?
[06:33] <alaa_> im running kubuntu and installed it through the adept manager
[06:33] <alaa_> but it didnt make an icon so i dont know how to open it
[06:34] <Dr_willis> check the files isntalled, with the package manager?
[06:34] <intelikey> one.line.sources.list.that.covers.most.things.except.updates.patches... deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:34] <malik__> hey ........does any one know that skype now comes with a lie detector add on. :)?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> you refering to the wirless manager?  it has some odd named binaries..
[06:34] <alaa_> yeah
[06:34] <billykan> ...
[06:35] <alaa_> i have my wireless drivers and everyting set up and the wireless thing for 6.10 doesnt work so i have to use network manager
[06:35] <intelikey> anyone use festival ?
[06:35] <alaa_> i installed network manager but i dont know where it went
[06:35] <Dr_willis> !networkmanager
[06:35] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[06:35] <intelikey> this is not a poll   see the above error message  ^
[06:35] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me with some audio popping problems?
[06:35] <billykan> ...
[06:36] <malik__> alaa_: it should be in internet subgroup in kmenu
[06:36] <billykan> #ubuntu
[06:36] <malik__> specially if its wireless
[06:36] <alaa_> i looked there its not there -.-
[06:36] <intelikey> !kr | billykan
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <alaa_> im lost lol
[06:36] <intelikey> !ko | billykan
[06:36] <wicketnezz> alright im gonna have to hop offa here for tonight
[06:37] <billykan> ???
[06:37] <wicketnezz> need some sleep before i gotta be up for work
[06:37] <wicketnezz> but ill be back tomorrow to see  i cant get this figured out
[06:37] <wicketnezz> thanks for your help tonight dr :)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> heh ok.. :) im still reading mythtv docs in the background
[06:37] <alaa_> does any1 kno how i can find out where my computer installed network manager to?
[06:38] <Dr_willis> it aint zappong the comercials!
[06:38] <Dr_willis> alaa_,  i though it had 2 different names,, one for the gnome version/applet and one for the kde version
[06:38] <Dr_willis> and both names were weird. :)
[06:39] <Dr_willis> add nm-applet to your startup
[06:39] <Dr_willis> thats the name of one.. from that web site..
[06:39] <Dr_willis> Note: nm-applet is now part of the network-manager-gnome package which is recommended when you install the network-manager package but may not have been installed.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> !info network-manager-kde
[06:39] <ubotu> Package network-manager-kde does not exist in any distro I know
[06:39] <Dr_willis> !info network-manager-gnome
[06:40] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[06:40] <alaa_> ok
[06:40] <Dr_willis> now WHY cant they use some more standarized names. Lol.
[06:40] <menteck> dr willis i have gotten to the point of i have the nvidia-glx package on the list but not the lagecy
[06:40] <Dr_willis> lets check..
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:40] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 2998 kB, installed size 9832 kB
[06:40] <menteck> no i dont get that packet in my list
[06:41] <menteck> hmmm....
[06:41] <Dr_willis> it says its in multiverse. so you need to 'enable' multiverse, THEN refresh the package lists
[06:41] <intelikey> help me here     SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_don_diphone
[06:41] <intelikey> festival: fatal error exiting.
[06:41] <intelikey> what am i looking at ?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> menteck,  been googling...   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories   seems like a decently explained site.
[06:42] <noiesmo> menteck, Dr_willis just on the nvidia if your interested theres a perl script called envy that grabs the right driver for nvidia cards from nvidia;s then installs and sets up xorg
[06:43] <noiesmo> !envy
[06:43] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[06:43] <Dr_willis> noiesmo,  heh cool.
[06:43] <noiesmo> oops python not perl my bad
[06:43] <alaa_> still stuck =(
[06:43] <menteck> rely there is
[06:43] <alaa_> is there any specific commands u can type in to launch it?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> if it supports the older legacy stuff. :P
[06:43] <noiesmo> i used it was piece of cake to set up
[06:43] <Dr_willis> I just got a little script i wrote that installs what i need. :P
[06:43] <intelikey> ok installing   festvox-don    maybe that will help ???
[06:43] <alaa_> i have network manager installed and everything i just dont know where it is or how i can access it
[06:43] <noiesmo> check albertomilone site all info its a deb pack you install
[06:46] <noiesmo> menteck, if you use envy Run envy from a console, if you do not it will force you too one anyway. I found that envy hangs on Kubuntu splash screen. To solve that problem press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[06:46] <menteck> i got it i got it yes thanx you so much Dr
[06:52] <Dr_willis> menteck,  :) now you can do... whatever the heck it was you were trying to do.. i forget....
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Now what was I trying to do....
[06:53] <alaa_> ffs
[06:53] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me?
[06:53] <RoKFiT> my audio is popping horribly
[06:53] <Dr_willis> alaa_,  i mentioned one of the commands earlier.. the gnome one however.. I forget the name of the kde one.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> if you install  network-manager-gnome    the command will be nm-applet
[06:56] <RoKFiT> does anyone know how to fix sound?
[06:56] <RoKFiT> crackling
[06:56] <leexgx> quick queston whats the command to getgnome interface installed
[06:56] <kory> RoKFiT: are any of your volumes cranked to the top?
[06:56] <RoKFiT> no
[06:57] <RoKFiT> about 75%
[06:57] <T3hWiz0rd> whoa its quiet in here
[06:57] <RoKFiT> why does it keep crackling
[06:57] <utta> leexgx: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[06:57] <kory> constantly crackling or did it start with a program?
[06:58] <RoKFiT> constantly
[06:59] <kory> check for loose cables?
[06:59] <RoKFiT> no, because some songs do it less than others, and in windows it never did this
[06:59] <RoKFiT> and redownloading the files as new produces the same errors
[07:00] <kory> it's audio that's causing the crackling... or does the crackling start when the PC starts?
[07:00] <max_> is there a IRC room for feisty?
[07:00] <menteck> Dr_willis thanx so much
[07:01] <T3hWiz0rd> how do you install the win32 codecs for kafein?
[07:01] <menteck> the drive installed and worked
[07:01] <RoKFiT> it's crackling from all audio sources
[07:02] <kory> a specific format?
[07:02] <RoKFiT> mp3
[07:02] <RoKFiT> everything really
[07:02] <kory> only mp3?... have you tried ogg or playing a cd?
[07:02] <RoKFiT> video does it too
[07:04] <RoKFiT> why would it not do it in windows, but do it in linux
[07:04] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone? kaffeine with win32 codecs? how to?
[07:04] <RoKFiT> that is the question
[07:05] <kory> what's your sound card?
[07:05] <RoKFiT> onboard ac97 6.1 channel
[07:05] <RoKFiT> nvidia ck804
[07:06] <RoKFiT> does windows have some sort of pop detection?
[07:06] <RoKFiT> does linux detect pops and make them apparent?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Its possible the sound card drivers are just not well done under linux
[07:09] <RoKFiT> i'm not sure, but i'd sure like to find a solution
[07:10] <max_> anyone using feisty yet?
[07:10] <kory> hmm... have you tried playing with the settings in System Settings -> Sound System applet -> Hardware tab?
[07:10] <RoKFiT> yes
[07:11] <ikirt> i'm going to upgrade now
[07:12] <kory> do you have all the channels active in KMix?
[07:12] <ikirt> have you done so already max_ ?
[07:13] <lee_> hei
[07:13] <RoKFiT> yes I do kory
[07:14] <max_> ikirt: no, but i was thinking about installing it on one of my partitions
[07:14] <ikirt> ok, i'm going to upgrade now
[07:15] <RoKFiT> yeah this is garbage
[07:15] <RoKFiT> i wonder if it's a bios setting
[07:16] <max_> does anyone know of a program that can download mulpiple links off a webpage? (picture links off fourms)?
[07:16] <Jucato> kget
[07:16] <max_> !kget
[07:16] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[07:18] <bbb> ok i'm trying to go from kubuntu amd64 to i386. repartitioning in the installer is not working. i set up a 75 gb primary ext3, a 1gb primary linux-swap.. when i press commit, the ext3+linux-swap say type: unknown
[07:19] <max_> RoKFit: whats the problem your having? ive had some sound toubles, i wasnt in here when you said your problem....state it again, maybe i can help
[07:19] <RoKFiT> i get pops in like all audio playback
[07:20] <RoKFiT> that never happened in windows
[07:20] <unix_infidel> max_: try the downloadthemall firefox plugin or you can write a script to wget certain files off a html page.
[07:20] <RoKFiT> and when i try to newly download songs the same thing happens
[07:20] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: are you using artsd?
[07:20] <RoKFiT> it's on autodetect
[07:21] <RoKFiT> but i've tried alsa with the same effects
[07:21] <RoKFiT> restarting everything
[07:21] <RoKFiT> should i use arts?
[07:22] <RoKFiT> arts isn't an option
[07:22] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: no idea. never had any problems like that using alsa.
[07:23] <unix_infidel> it could be a hardware issue, could be a codec issue, could be tons of other things.
[07:23] <unix_infidel> you'll usually get some more verbose output using mplayer and any media file.
[07:23] <RoKFiT> i believe it to be codec or driver
[07:23] <RoKFiT> most likely driver
[07:23] <bbb> why would i be unable to make ext3 or linux-swap partitions? when i press commit they change to unknown
[07:24] <unix_infidel> least likely the driver actually unless dmg says otherwise.
[07:24] <unix_infidel> bbb: why would you want an ext3 swap?
[07:24] <RoKFiT> what is the prefered driver?
[07:24] <unix_infidel> swap is its own type of fS?
[07:24] <bbb> i don't i just want to install kubuntu
[07:24] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: ubuntu should've automatically detected the hardware and used the proper kernel module.
[07:24] <bioticpro> I just moved a drive from A to B location, changed lilo and fstab, but the block devices all are still called hdb#, can I just rename them, or do I have to remake them?
[07:24] <bbb> i need an ext3 right?
[07:24] <bbb> as main
[07:24] <bbb> and linux-swap as swap?
[07:24] <bbb> but they won't commit.
[07:24] <unix_infidel> bbb: use reiserfs.
[07:24] <RoKFiT> yeah it's on autodetect
[07:25] <bbb> what is that o.o
[07:25] <RoKFiT> also on volume adjust in amarok it pops the pcm line
[07:27] <RoKFiT> is there a software volume adjuster for amarok?
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> dont ask dont tell
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> or were going to wind up in hell
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> wronh chan
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> hehe
[07:32] <RoKFiT> i'll sleep on my problem, bbl
[07:39] <chicago_> i have a problem
[07:40] <chicago_> my keyboard won't recognize my keyboard at all, i am not using a new user
[07:40] <chicago_> i think it's the locales
[07:40] <FreddyM> btw, i'm on a laptop
[07:43] <max_> does kubuntu run well on a laptop?
[07:43] <FreddyM> max_: yes
[07:44] <FreddyM> Jucato: ping?
[07:44] <FreddyM> !laptop | _max_
[07:44] <ubotu> _max_: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[07:44] <FreddyM> err wrong one
[07:44] <FreddyM> but you get the idea
[07:44] <Jucato> FreddyM: pong?
[07:44] <FreddyM> want to help me, it's Admiral_Chicago
[07:44] <Jucato> how's it going Admiral
[07:44] <Jucato> what can I do to help?
[07:45] <FreddyM> can't get my keyboard to recognize on this lappy
[07:45] <seven11> which package do i need for vnc and how do i set it up to see a xp computer on the network (xp has the server running)
[07:45] <FreddyM> there is something wrong with the user settings
[07:45] <Jucato> FreddyM: I don't know anything about laptops :(
[07:46] <FreddyM> do you know anything locales
[07:46] <Jucato> nothing... :(
[07:46] <Jucato> sorry...
[07:47] <FreddyM> damn!
[07:47] <FreddyM> okay thanks Jucato
[07:47] <FreddyM> it's frustrating...
[07:47] <Jucato> really sorry FreddyM... :(
[07:47] <FreddyM> Jucato: it's okay, thanks anyway brother
[07:47] <seven11> anybody uses vnc ?
[07:51] <ikirt> vnc, yes
[07:51] <Fleebailey33> how do fiesty users install wine
[07:51] <Fleebailey33> ?
[07:51] <Fleebailey33> the reposity says edgy
[07:52] <kkathman> is that a riddle or .. Im waiting for a punch line :)
[07:52] <Fleebailey33> well i tried it and wine is not showing up
[07:53] <Fleebailey33> i come from the powerpc world
[07:53] <Fleebailey33> so wine is insteresting
[07:56] <intruder> hi
[07:57] <intruder> i willing to switch to kde, but it seems there is some broken package when apt-geting the metapackage kde its says kdemultimedia won't be installed, does anyone knows a workaround ?
[07:58] <intruder> and the dependency problem goes deep down to kdelibs4-dev
[08:02] <seven11> ikirt: how do i start it?
[08:04] <ayeizajedi> morning everyone
[08:07] <chicago_> !sudo
[08:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:13] <RoKFiT> does the auto-detect audio driver integrate with kmix?
[08:14] <adr1an> my root password doesn't work anymore after I installed the "smbfs" package, can someone help me?
[08:15] <adr1an> in recovery mode the root password works fine
[08:23] <bbb> kubuntu edgy i386 installer is absolutely not recognizing partition types. i usex xubuntu's installer to create a partition table for installation, switched back to the kubuntu cd, and they ALL read 'unknow'
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i have a large lag when I type anything
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> how can i fix it
[08:27] <ayeizajedi> is there a way to change grub from txt to graphic ?
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ayeizajedi: yes
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !grub
[08:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> actually, i need to do that
[08:28] <ayeizajedi> :)
[08:29] <adr1an> i solved my problem
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> adr1an: how
[08:32] <adr1an> 1 sec and i'll tell u
[08:33] <adr1an> i changed /etc/sudoers for my user having the same permisions as root
[08:33] <adr1an> i did that from tje recovery mode console
[08:33] <adr1an> and that's it
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> cool
[08:46] <intelikey> well i installed the new kernel 2.6.15-27  right over the top of the old kernel 2.6.15-27   and it broke networking and sound.
[08:47] <linux8> test kubuntu irc
[08:48] <intelikey> the break in network was the lack of device node /dev/ppp  i fixed that.    also /dev/dsp was missing i fixed that   but aumix still doesn't work.   it opens/closes in one movement leaving the console without a cursor.
[08:49] <dreamer> I haven edgy-server install with a basic kde installed
[08:49] <dreamer> and there are currently 2 accounts
[08:49] <dreamer> on the admin account, when I open a progrom, it doesn't show up in the taskbar
[08:50] <intelikey> that's hardly a kde issue.
[08:50] <dreamer> on both accounts: amarok doesn't give it's icon in the system tray
[08:50] <dreamer> intelikey: ok, what kind of issue is it then ?
[08:50] <linux8> printer driver? Canon Pixma 1000
[08:50] <intelikey> package management
[08:50] <dreamer> hmm
[08:51] <dreamer> in what way is package management related to that then ?
[08:51] <intelikey> in what way is it not related ?
[08:51] <dreamer> I don't know
[08:51] <intelikey> kde has nothing at all to do with installing software
[08:51] <dreamer> I'm not talking about installing software
[08:52] <intelikey> op i did misread you.
[08:52] <intelikey> ok let me try again.
[08:52] <dreamer> :)
[08:53] <dreamer> so, when I' for instange, open firefox, there is no 'button' in the taskbar
[08:53] <dreamer> haha
[08:53] <intelikey> don't ask...
[08:53] <intelikey> anyway.
[08:53] <dreamer> I just mean running software
[08:53] <linux8> anyone can help me, how to find printer driver Canon IP1000
[08:54] <intelikey> yes   you can right click the taskbar and configure it   set it to display all apps or only minimized or apps from all desktops   it's in the settings.    kcontrol
[08:54] <dreamer> linux8: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45609
[08:54] <cntb> \o
[08:55] <intelikey> @ dreamer ^
[08:55] <cntb> what is feisty herd 1 ?
[08:55] <linux8> ok
[08:55] <Adlai> cntb, kubuntu 7.04 alpha/beta/something
[08:55] <dreamer> intelikey: on the admin account it is set like that
[08:55] <Jucato> !feisty | cntb
[08:55] <ubotu> cntb: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:55] <intelikey> it's  #ubuntu+1  cntb
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Hurd is the alpha
[08:56] <intelikey> as to the amarok issue maybe jucato can help there
[08:56] <dreamer> intelikey: 'show application icanos' is checked
[08:56] <intelikey> dreamer that's not it.
[08:56] <dreamer> hmm
[08:57] <Jucato> what?
[08:57] <intelikey> check another tab
[08:57] <intelikey> Jucato see dreamer  about configuring taskbar   and an amarok issue
[08:57] <dreamer> Jucato: amarok doesn't give it's icon in the system tray, but thu option is checked in amarok itself
[08:58] <Jucato> dreamer: do you actually have the system tray applet?
[08:58] <dreamer> Jucato: hmmm, good point :P
[08:58] <dreamer> let me check
[08:58] <Jucato> you can check by right-clicking on the panel, Remove from panel -> Applet -> System Tray
[08:58] <dreamer> how can I install it ?
[08:59] <Jucato> to add it
[08:59] <dreamer> not in there :#
[08:59] <Jucato> right-click, Add Apple to Panel, look for System Tray, and click on Add
[08:59] <intelikey> Apple ?
[08:59] <Jucato> Applet, sorry
[08:59] <dreamer> Jucato: not there either
[09:00] <dreamer> hehe
[09:00] <Jucato> ?
[09:00] <dreamer> maybe I shouldn't have done this minimal install ;/
[09:00] <dreamer> it's gona be a htpc so I didn't want it to have too much software and stuff
[09:00] <Jucato> there is no problem with a minimal install
[09:01] <Jucato> hold... are you missing the taskbar or the system tray?
[09:01] <dreamer> Jucato: whel the system tray applet isn't in either of those
[09:01] <Jucato> hm...
[09:01] <Jucato> do you have only one panel?
[09:01] <dreamer> intelikey: I have the takbar on that pc setup just like my desktop now, but still no progs in the taskbar
[09:01] <dreamer> the strange thing is also that on another useraccount on that pc the taskbar doen work ;/
[09:02] <dreamer> Jucato: what do you mean? one panel ?
[09:02] <dreamer> Jucato: I'm missing the systemtray
[09:02] <Ash-Fox> Since apparently I can't find any 'dh_make' package in Kubuntu, I assume I shouldn't be following the Debian package maintainers handbook, but rather some Ubuntu one that I cannot find?
 so, when I' for instange, open firefox, there is no 'button' in the taskbar
[09:02] <dreamer> Jucato: different problem :P
[09:02] <dreamer> and that's only on the adminaccount
[09:02] <intelikey> dreamer i think it's because you don't have a task list  applet       there is an aplet that the open apps show in   with out it the task bar has no way to show them.
[09:02] <Jucato> hm.. ok one by one...
[09:03] <dreamer> the systray is on both accounts
[09:03] <Jucato> on both accounts, there is no system tray?
[09:03] <abattoir> Ash-Fox: try asking at #ubuntu-motu , not here
[09:03] <dreamer> Jucato: yes
[09:03] <Ash-Fox> abattoir, thanks
[09:03] <Jucato> hm....
[09:03] <abattoir> Ash-Fox: you're welcome
[09:04] <Jucato> dreamer: you checked in the Add Applet dialog box?
[09:04] <dreamer> yes
[09:04] <Jucato> (not Add Application)
[09:05] <dreamer> oh wait
[09:05] <dreamer> let me check
[09:05] <dreamer> ok lol, that was it :P
[09:05] <intelikey> dreamer and if my guess is correct.  my first answer to you is actually the right answer "that's not a kde issue"   :)      it's either pebcak (you) or package management (you)
[09:05] <dreamer> now to the taskbar issue ...
[09:05] <Jucato> it's pebcak....
[09:05] <dreamer> :P
[09:05] <dreamer> :#
[09:06] <Jucato> dreamer:  look for the Taskbar applet this time
[09:06] <dreamer> I feel so stupid :(
[09:07] <Jucato> everything ok now?
[09:07] <dreamer> so, you guys have any reccomended aplications for a htpc ?
[09:07] <dreamer> Jucato: yup :#
[09:07] <Jucato> ok good
[09:07] <Jucato> :)
[09:08] <dreamer> hmm, so I was trying to add mp3-support in amarok, but restarting the program doesn't enable it
[09:08] <dreamer> so I mean: installing mp3-support from within amarok
[09:09] <feety> so you installed libxine-extracodecs?
[09:09] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <Jucato> dreamer: you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[09:10] <feety> hi there. when i try to activate the mac-os like toolbar menu option, the bar where the text SHOULD sit upon appears BENEATH where the text is. so the text is happily sitting on top of nothing, and the panel is uselessly beneath it. any ideas? and dont tell me to surf thru kcontrol, what do you think ive been doing. lol.
[09:11] <dreamer> Jucato: I tryed, but it doesn't have an installation candidate
[09:11] <Jucato> feety: try restarting kicker. Alt+F2, type in "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[09:11] <Jucato> dreamer: do you have multiverse enabled?
[09:11] <Jucato> !multiverse dreamer
[09:11] <dreamer> I thought I did
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiverse dreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <feety> would that really work? it does it even after restarting my session.
[09:11] <Jucato> !multiverse | dreamer
[09:11] <ubotu> dreamer: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:12] <Jucato> feety: no harm in trying. it just restarts kicker anyway
[09:12] <feety> okay
[09:12] <feety> oh it worked, but now that panel lacks its shadow
[09:12] <Jucato> what shadow?
[09:13] <feety> ive got the transparency manager on. it had a shadow before while it was sitting uselessly beneath the text. now it doesnt have its shadow. somehow, the main kicker panel down the bottom got a shadow it didnt have before xD
[09:13] <dreamer> Jucato: in synaptic I now have all multiverse-repo's enabled, still no candidate
[09:13] <alyx> iwlist scanning : eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device....why?it should work...:(
[09:13] <feety> did you update your list, dreamer
[09:14] <Jucato> feety: not really familiar with transparency. can't help you there
[09:14] <feety> okay. well ill live with it for now.
[09:14] <Jucato> dreamer: click on Reload (Synaptic) or Fetch Updates (Adept)
[09:14] <dreamer> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/universe/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 195.248.90.38 80] 
[09:15] <Jucato> err...
[09:15] <Jucato> somehow, that's wrong... not sure how you "enabled" multiverse
[09:15] <alyx> ifconfig eth1
[09:15] <alyx> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:89:42:81
[09:15] <alyx>           inet addr:10.23.20.100  Bcast:10.23.20.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[09:15] <alyx>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[09:15] <alyx>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[09:15] <alyx>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[09:15] <alyx>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[09:15] <alyx>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[09:15] <alyx>           Interrupt:5 Base address:0x4000
[09:15] <dreamer> settings >> repositories
[09:15] <Jucato> alyx: stop
[09:16] <Jucato> !pastebin | alyx
[09:16] <ubotu> alyx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:16] <alyx> have I something wrong?sorry 4 that long message...
[09:16] <intelikey> anyone know how to "reset" a console ?
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: is that a joke?
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> oh nvm
[09:16] <Jucato> dreamer: the line should look like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse"
[09:16] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: what?
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> nvm, I'm being retarted
[09:17] <Jucato> :O
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> I can't read
[09:17] <Jucato> you really need to get some more sleep :)
[09:17] <intelikey> Jucato should we say 'empower universe' ?
[09:17] <Jucato> dreamer: if you're using Synaptic, this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[09:17] <intelikey> or maybe  'activate universe' ?
[09:18] <feety> or enable
[09:18] <dreamer> Jucato: I have lines that look like that enabled
[09:18] <Jucato> hmm....
[09:18] <feety> try appending your country code before archive, maybe that will help
[09:19] <Jucato> dreamer: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:19] <Jucato> !pastebin | dreamer
[09:19] <intelikey> well,   anyone know how to "reset" a console ?
[09:19] <ubotu> dreamer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:19] <Jucato> intelikey: what do you mean by "reset"?
[09:20] <bbb> !ati
[09:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:20] <intelikey> i mean when the cursor is gone and the fonts are not rendering properly any more.
[09:20] <intelikey> how do you fix it ?
[09:20] <Jucato> ah.. hm...
[09:21] <intelikey> i don't want to reboot just because one console is #\|@!!_
[09:21] <feety> oh yes ive experienced that myself.the console screen turns to garbage.
[09:21] <Jucato> is this a tty, or a terminal emulator?
[09:21] <Fleebailey33> im trying to get nerolinux working under amd64. i got synaptic in a 32bit envirement in kubuntu so far. any ideas?
[09:21] <intelikey> yep.   anyone that wants an example just cat /dev/urandom
[09:21] <Fleebailey33> besides use k3b?
[09:21] <Jucato> heh :)
[09:22] <Fleebailey33> becuase im doing this for fun
[09:22] <dreamer> Jucato:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37138/
[09:22] <Fleebailey33> heh
[09:22] <cntb> kill  process intelikey ??
[09:22] <feety> nerolinux for linux reminds me of the ancient useless versions of nero for windows, prior to version 5/6 ^^
[09:22] <intelikey> what process cntb ?
[09:22] <cntb> nerolinux ? sounds interesting
[09:22] <dreamer> lel
[09:23] <dreamer> K3b kicks ass as far as I've seen
[09:23] <Jucato> dreamer: wth?
[09:23] <dreamer> heh
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> yeah i guess
[09:23] <paulo> yo yo yo
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> i want to compare on the fly speeds
[09:23] <cntb> k3b does any bootables  ?
[09:23] <Jucato> dreamer: delete those last 5 lines... those are giving you the errors
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> i think k3b could improve
[09:23] <dreamer> Jucato: lol ok
[09:23] <intelikey> anothere yo yo ???
[09:23] <Adlai> Fleebailey33, on the fly...why?
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> i dont get 16x speed on my dvds
[09:23] <Adlai> bad burns
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> nowhere close
[09:24] <dreamer> Jucato: rest looks ok?
[09:24] <Adlai> bad burns with 16x also
[09:24] <Adlai> lower speed is better
[09:24] <Jucato> dreamer: yes. as I suspected, in Synaptic, you added universe and multiverse, without indicating that it's for edgy
[09:24] <Fleebailey33> i guess
[09:24] <Fleebailey33> hmm
[09:24] <Jucato> dreamer: just delete those last 5 lines, Reload, then install
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> but it is nice to have a 32 bit envirement now
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> so i can run wine
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> speaking of wine
[09:25] <alfonso> in spanish
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> i come from powerpc world
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> how do i start wine
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> lol
[09:25] <dreamer> allright, thank you so much Jucato :)
[09:25] <snowrichard> hello
[09:25] <Adlai> Fleebailey33, winecfg
[09:26] <Adlai> then wine /path/to/windows/executable
[09:26] <dreamer> now to get an easy way to unmount dvd's instead of opening a terminal ;/ this pc is for the livingroom and my housmates aren't kings in computers ;/
[09:26] <Adlai> add a "-w" at the end if you want windowed mode
[09:26] <Adlai> dreamer, you could write a script and put it on your desktop, or if you have gnome or kde, you can right click on media and unmount it
[09:27] <Fleebailey33> i think i got it...
[09:27] <Fleebailey33> lol
[09:27] <Fleebailey33> thanks
[09:27] <intelikey> so does anyone know how to "reset" a console ?      i hate to keep asking, but this is a help channel...
[09:28] <Adlai> intelikey, how do you mean, just clear the screen?
[09:31] <dreamer> hey wf, I just tried another dvd, it played, and I could just eject afterwards, that didn't happen the last time I tried ..
[09:31] <dreamer> so, currently I have VLC for movies and dvd, amarok for music .. what else would be good ?
[09:32] <intelikey> ok i have a working answer for "how to reset a console"   reset   .....
[09:33] <intelikey> yes yes.   it was so obvious i over looked it.
[09:33] <Jucato> ?
[09:33] <Jucato> what was it?
[09:34] <malik_> !java
[09:34] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:34] <intelikey> lol Jucato
[09:34] <dreamer> intelikey: resetting a console ?
[09:34] <intelikey> that was a good one. Jucato
[09:35] <Jucato> huh?
[09:35] <intelikey> dreamer doesn't apply to the graphic user interface.
[09:35] <dreamer> ok, so :P
[09:35] <malik_> what are the java softwares we need to install on kubuntu?
[09:35] <intelikey> Jucato are you serious ?
[09:35] <intelikey> ok i have a working answer for "how to reset a console"   reset   .....  <<<< reset
[09:35] <Jucato> oh....
[09:36] <Jucato> that was the command?
[09:36] <intelikey> yes
[09:36] <Jucato> s/the/a
[09:36] <Jucato> on my PC, that's also a button...
[09:36] <intelikey> i thought you were being kar/skastic when you asked "<Jucato> what was it?"
[09:37] <Jucato> no. I was merely being dumb
[09:37] <dreamer> !ftp
[09:37] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[09:37] <dreamer> Jucato: what are you reading? :)
[09:38] <dreamer> but I don't feel like it
[09:38] <Jucato> Linux Bible 2005 :P
[09:38] <intelikey> i thought that was the best joke i've heard you do yet....   then you tell me it wasn't     man next time just grin and let people think you are funny.
[09:38] <Adlai> kftpgrabber also
[09:39] <Jucato> intelikey: sorry
[09:40] <dreamer> Adlai: I want an ftp-server on the htpc so everyone can upload movies and music themselve
[09:40] <Adlai> proftpd works for me
[09:40] <Adlai> fairly easy to set up
[09:41] <Adlai> of course I just did an anonymous setup so people could grab stuff from me
[09:43] <dreamer> Adlai: hmm, hehe, I just want the 2 accounts on the pc to get to there own space
[09:44] <snowrichard> http://72.236.163.63:13379
[09:46] <snowrichard> is that url reachable? its my shoutcast server status page
[09:48] <dreamer> snowrichard: sure
[09:48] <snowrichard> tks
[09:48] <bbb> !ati
[09:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:54] <dreamer> snowrichard: hehe, nice stream :P
[09:54] <linux_> hello, I would like to make my linux-server remote control I have read something about VNC but is there also a another way to do this ?
[09:55] <dreamer> too bad I can't seet he song-info in amarok
[09:55] <dreamer> linux_: ssh?
[09:55] <dreamer> linux_: or do you want a desktop ?
[09:56] <linux_> yes desktop :)
[09:56] <dreamer> linux_: are you going to use it remotely on a linux-box ?
[09:57] <bbb> !ati
[09:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:58] <dreamer> bbb: lol, you really should bookwark that page :P
[09:58] <linux_> yes
[09:59] <intelikey> or save page as
[09:59] <linux_> just want my server be remote control
[09:59] <dreamer> I'm not too knowledgable on remote desktopping in linux though
[09:59] <dreamer> < linux_> just want my server be remote control << that can be anything, why do you need a remote gui on your server ?
[10:00] <linux_> when I am on skool I want to work with my server its is a skool project
[10:02] <intelikey> !vnc | linux_
[10:02] <ubotu> linux_: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:02] <dreamer> linux_: just use ssh then
[10:02] <ubuntu> hi
[10:02] <dreamer> hey
[10:03] <dreamer> linux_: what do you need a gui for really ?
[10:03] <paulo> hello
[10:03] <Kubuntu1> here is a noob question
[10:03] <paulo> ok
[10:03] <linux_> okey thank, I will look for VMC
[10:03] <dreamer> so what other programs shall I install on my htpc?
[10:04] <Kubuntu1> I did an update to Kubunto edgy eft last night
[10:04] <Kubuntu1> and it wrecked my kdeint
[10:04] <Kubuntu1> save reinstaling the OS, what could I have ne to fix it
[10:06] <Kubuntu1> ok forget that queston... lol
[10:07] <Kubuntu1> has anyone install kubuntu on any dell laptops?
[10:07] <it01> # bawel
[10:07] <Kubuntu1> intelikey can you see my responses>
[10:07] <Kubuntu1> ?
[10:08] <intelikey> nope
[10:08] <intelikey> !regestor
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regestor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <intelikey> !regester
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regester - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Kubuntu1> !regester
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regester - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <dreamer> !register
[10:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:08] <dreamer> ?
[10:08] <dreamer> hehe
[10:09] <Kubuntu1> haha ok I have to register
[10:14] <Kubuntu1> thx for help i will be back, after I boot from HD. I just finished reinstalling kubuntu.. inteli i saved your info, thx
[10:18] <intelikey> SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_rab_diphone
[10:18] <intelikey> festival: fatal error exiting.
[10:18] <dreamer> anybody here using irssi ?
[10:20] <Guardian> hmm, yesterday kde packages got updated, and i could not log anymore. then i removed the .kde folder and it started
[10:20] <Guardian> today i have the same issue on another computer
[10:20] <intelikey> bx here dreamer
[10:20] <Guardian> (hmm hello :) )
[10:20] <Guardian> is there anything wiser than remove the whole .kde folder to do ? :)
[10:20] <dreamer> intelikey: bx?  I just want joins/parts/qiuts not to be displayed .. I did it before on certian channels, but I can't remember how :#
[10:21] <intelikey> !bitchx
[10:21] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1507 kB, installed size 6516 kB
[10:21] <dreamer> ah bitchx :P
[10:21] <dreamer> I like irssi, I just need to get to learn some coding ..
[10:21] <dreamer> first quantum mechanics though :/
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> root@Xenon:/# wine '/home/andy/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/SlySoft/AnyDVD/AnyDVD.exe'
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x34fc74) stub!
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> err:module:import_dll Library ntoskrnl.exe (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\ElbyCDIO.sys") not found
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> err:module:import_dll Library HAL.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\ElbyCDIO.sys") not found
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\ElbyCDIO.sys" failed, status c0000135
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> root@Xenon:/#
[10:23] <Fleebailey33> OOPS
[10:23] <dreamer> dude
[10:23] <Fleebailey33> i didnt press enter and wonrg place
[10:23] <Fleebailey33> my bad
[10:23] <intelikey> why are you doing that as root ?
[10:24] <Fleebailey33> maybe i need some sleep
[10:24] <Fleebailey33> i have to use wine like that becuase i im 64 bit
[10:24] <intelikey> uning root for things like that begs trubble
[10:24] <Fleebailey33> its tricky to get it to do 32 bit
[10:25] <dreamer> anybody know of any good VJ-apps for (k)ubuntu ?
[10:25] <intelikey> is that in a chrooted env ?
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> anybody know why wine wouldnt load btw?
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> yes
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> of made from one
[10:25] <dreamer> wine is a bitch :P
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> so i see
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> was great
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> installed the files fine
[10:26] <intelikey> wine did load   it's  ElbyCDIO.sys  that it couldn't find ?
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> im like fine is wondeful!
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> no its not
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> hm intelikey?
[10:27] <intelikey> file not found.   err:module:import_dll Library ntoskrnl.exe   < error caused by ElbyCDIO.sys
[10:27] <Fleebailey33> ah
[10:28] <Fleebailey33> following you so far
[10:28] <Fleebailey33> maybe i remove that
[10:28] <Fleebailey33> maybe we dont really need it
[10:28] <Fleebailey33> ?
[10:28] <snowrichard> hello
[10:28] <intelikey> i have very little exp with wine.   i don't do windows.
[10:29] <Fleebailey33> same
[10:29] <Fleebailey33> lol
[10:29] <snowrichard> http://schizophrenicprogrammer.info
[10:29] <snowrichard> just updated with station listen link
[10:31] <intelikey> it seems that the error i was having with festival is caused by a "LANGUAGE" setting  i don't know what language is installed by default but english will error out.
[10:31] <dreamer> I should get to making some website
[10:31] <dreamer> what is a good program for web-design? something wysiwyg would be great (haven't done html in 4 years :#)
[10:32] <snowrichard> mozilla composer, quanta, vi :)
[10:32] <intelikey> no emacs ?
[10:32] <snowrichard> never learned emacs
[10:32] <dreamer> snowrichard: vi is hardly wysiwyg :P
[10:33] <snowrichard> by the way if there are developers here, this edgy is really slick, easy install.
[10:34] <snowrichard> from the DVD
[10:34] <intelikey> hmmm installing emacs only requires a  13.1MB  dl     After unpacking 43.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
[10:34] <dreamer> so many programs installed, I'm not gona reinstall edgy for a while ;)
[10:35] <snowrichard> my other system is dual XP home, gentoo 64
[10:35] <intelikey> !LTS
[10:35] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:38] <dreamer> hmm, how do I install mozilla composer ?
[10:39] <snowrichard> just install mozilla-browser, it comes with it
[10:40] <dreamer> hmm, too bad it doesn't come with firefox
[10:40] <intelikey> piped text how to remove all between ( or [ and ]  or ) respectivly ?
[10:41] <deitarion> What could cause Samba shares on a Kubuntu box to not work?
[10:42] <deitarion> More specifically, my mother is trying to share some folders on her desktop using KDE's built-in "share folder" feature, and when I try to connect using smb:// from my Konqueror, it says "The file or folder smb://192.168.0.29/STEPHAN does not exist."
[10:43] <deitarion> However, all of the folders show up properly in smb://192.168.0.29/
[10:45] <||arifaX> deitarion: shouldn't you use smb:/192.168.0.29/STEPHAN instead of smb:// ?
[10:45] <deitarion> No. KIOSlaves expect //
[10:45] <deitarion> At least, the ones in Gentoo do.
[10:46] <deitarion> It's rather ironic that a "simple" distro like Kubuntu is the first Linux distro to give me more trouble than Windows XP with SMB/CIFS file sharing.
[10:47] <cpk1> deitarion: this should get a samba share working really painlessly http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[10:47] <||arifaX> deitarion: works fine here!
[10:55] <wily> hi all
[10:55] <wily> i ndeed your help
[10:55] <wily> i've problem with my kubuntu
[10:55] <wily> at reboot i've this error:/bin/sh : can't access tty; job control turned off
[10:56] <wily> i think this is a grub's problem
[10:56] <intelikey> not mounting the root fs
[10:56] <intelikey> no  it's initrd/initramfs.img
[10:56] <wily> i'm trying to solve problem with live distro
[10:56] <wily> chroot .... etc
[10:56] <wily> how i can solve problem?
[10:57] <intelikey> build another initrd.img
[10:57] <wily> how i can do thta?
[10:57] <wily> *that?
[10:57] <intelikey> mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-<version> <version>
[10:57] <intelikey> in the chroot
[10:58] <wily> version of what? kernel?
[10:58] <deitarion> cpk1: Aha! It's that "force user = " line that it needs. Now I just need to figure out which line from my Gentoo setup negates the need for it so that my mother can just use KDE's "share" dialog.
[10:58] <intelikey> ls /boot
[10:58] <wily> ok
[10:58] <wily> now i try that
[10:59] <wily> thank you intelikey
[10:59] <intelikey> that may not solve it.  you may have to specify the modules to load.    which is much more endepth.
[10:59] <intelikey> but try that first.
[11:00] <wily> ok
[11:04] <wily> intelikey: i try to restart
[11:05] <dreamer> so, I'm still looking for good programs for my htpc, anybody some advice ?
[11:05] <dreamer> we don't have kabel so I'm not sure about mythtv
[11:05] <wily> intelikey: nothing
[11:05] <dreamer> but we do have a vcr that will be hooked on, what program would be best for using that ?
[11:05] <wily> same error
[11:06] <deitarion> There. I couldn't figure out what Kubuntu locks down that prevents KDE and QEmu from just working with Samba, so I set a global "force user =" to dodge it.
[11:06] <wily> please help me
[11:07] <wily> at reboot i've this error:/bin/sh : can't access tty; job control turned off
[11:07] <wily> i'm trying to solve problem with live distro
[11:07] <wily> chroot .... etc
[11:07] <intelikey> yes.   ok what is the hd ?
[11:07] <intelikey> is it IDE ?
[11:07] <wily> 0,2
[11:08] <wily> yes is a notebook
[11:08] <intelikey> k
[11:08] <intelikey> and the filesystem ?
[11:08] <intelikey> ext3 ?
[11:08] <wily> ext3
[11:08] <intelikey> k
[11:08] <intelikey> and the address of the hd ?
[11:08] <wily> google tells me that is a grub's erroe
[11:08] <wily> 0,2
[11:09] <wily> sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu
[11:09] <intelikey>  /dev/hda3  ?
[11:09] <wily> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt/ubuntu
[11:09] <wily> sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu
[11:09] <DocTomoe> Are there any known (even inofficial) OOo2.1 repositories for Edgy?
[11:09] <intelikey> 2 ok.
[11:09] <wily> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[11:09] <intelikey> wait.
[11:09] <intelikey> wait.
[11:09] <intelikey> wait.
[11:09] <wily> ok
[11:09] <wily> sorry
[11:09] <intelikey> you said google tells me that is a grub's erroe
 0,2
[11:10] <wily> *error
[11:10] <intelikey> ignore the google Q it was a error on my part.
[11:10] <wily> ok i follow you
[11:10] <intelikey> you said the disk address is 0,2     but you are mounting /dev/hda2
[11:10] <wily> no no
[11:11] <wily> please step by step
[11:11] <wily> in menu.lst
[11:11] <wily> i've 0,2 for linux partition
[11:11] <intelikey> that doesn't match  <wily> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt/ubuntu
[11:12] <wily> no it's an example
[11:12] <intelikey> you have the disk mounted ?
[11:12] <wily> fdisk -L?
[11:12] <intelikey> no
[11:12] <intelikey> mount
[11:13] <wily> please tell me
[11:13] <intelikey> type   mount
[11:13] <wily> there are some way to copy files of mounted partition in chroot
[11:13] <wily> on remov device?
[11:13] <wily> if i type e on grub
[11:13] <wily> i've root (0,4)
[11:14] <wily> kernel ........ etc
[11:14] <wily> initid etc
[11:14] <wily> quiet
[11:14] <wily> savedefault
[11:14] <wily> boot
[11:14] <wily> that is
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> paste | wily
[11:14] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago .
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> err !paste
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: ?
[11:15] <intelikey> wily you are in the live cd ?
[11:15] <intelikey> wily ?
[11:16] <wily> yes
[11:16] <intelikey> type mount | grep mnt      in a terminal and
[11:17] <wily> in chroot
[11:17] <wily> ?
[11:17] <intelikey> tell me what it says
[11:17] <intelikey> no in the cd
[11:17] <wily> ok
[11:17] <wily> just a moment
[11:17] <wily> arghhh
[11:17] <wily> i've another error with klive
[11:18] <wily> BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0
[11:18] <wily> fuxxx
[11:19] <intelikey> well you have almost convinced me that you do have grub misconfigured,    but not quite.
[11:20] <intelikey> unless you have seperate / and /boot partitions
[11:21] <cpk1> i cant believe upgrading to edgy needs to pull 1gig from repos
[11:21] <intelikey> and why not ?
[11:21] <wily> if you can read this: http://ubuntutaker.wordpress.com/2006/10/11/ripristinare-grub/
[11:21] <wily> is in italian
[11:22] <cpk1> intelikey: me?
[11:22] <cpk1> because the cd is ~700megs
[11:22] <wily> intelikey
[11:22] <cpk1> i was expecting ~700meg download
[11:22] <intelikey> cpk1 and you haven't added anything after you installed dapper ?
[11:22] <wily> but step sudo grub-install /dev/hda doen't wors
[11:22] <cpk1> intelikey: shhh
[11:24] <intelikey> wily yes   now if you are finished playing with that.    would you please tell me where your hd is mounted and the device node ?
[11:25] <intelikey> issuing the mount command with no args will display that information
[11:25] <wily> i've english keyboard
[11:26] <wily> and i can't fing grep's bar
[11:26] <wily> on keyboard
[11:26] <wily> just a moment
[11:27] <wily> mount |grep mnt returned nothin
[11:27] <intelikey> so don't use a pipe   just type    mount
[11:28] <wily> i've not information about hd!!! arrrggh
[11:28] <intelikey> wily in klive ?
[11:28] <wily> proc |sys varrun varlock procusb.... udev devport
[11:28] <wily> yes
[11:29] <intelikey> ok fdisk -l
[11:29] <intelikey> !paste | wily
[11:29] <ubotu> wily: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:29] <intelikey> paste it all if you need to.
[11:29] <intelikey>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:29] <wily> ok
[11:30] <wily> i do that
[11:31] <wily>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37148
[11:32] <intelikey> ok and the output of     sudo fdisk -l
[11:33] <wily>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37150
[11:34] <intelikey> ok sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media
[11:35] <wily> ok
[11:35] <intelikey> ok sudo chroot /media
[11:36] <wily> ok
[11:37] <wily> now?
[11:37] <intelikey> ls lib/modules/
[11:37] <intelikey> tell me what that says
[11:37] <wily> 2.6.17-10-generic
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> uname -r works also
[11:38] <intelikey> ok mkinitramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic 2.6.17-10-generic
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> nevermind, i think thats a live cd
[11:38] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago no it doesn't
[11:38] <intelikey> yes livecd and i want the installed kernel
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm just going to be quiet and do my homework
[11:38] <rag> hello all
[11:38] <rag> *
[11:39] <intelikey> wily tell me when that finishes.
[11:39] <wily> ok
[11:39] <rag> anybody how to modify boot options from kubuntu alternate install?
[11:40] <intelikey> at boot [F1] 
[11:40] <intelikey> rag not sure what you want.
[11:41] <wily> nothin
[11:41] <wily> doesn't works
[11:41] <intelikey> wily good.
 doesn't works ?
[11:42] <intelikey> explain
[11:42] <rag> intelikey: hello! how are you?
[11:42] <rag> intelikey: i want without press F6, modify kubuntu CD
[11:42] <wily> i must to go for few minutes
[11:42] <wily> CUL8R
[11:42] <rag> intelikey: my target is modify cd for put BOOT OPTIONS static
[11:43] <rag> intelikey: do you understand me?
[11:43] <intelikey> rag oh... yes i understand.   but i can't help there.
[11:43] <intelikey> you need someone that builds install cd's to help with that.
[11:47] <DocTomoe> Are there any known (even inofficial) OOo2.1 repositories for Edgy?
[11:49] <intelikey> DocTomoe not that i know of.
[11:49] <intelikey> ubotu info openoffice.org
[11:49] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[11:49] <cox377> !alternate
[11:49] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:50] <rag> intelikey: i read you
[11:50] <eltese> Hi! Im currently running ubuntu but I ran kubuntu a little while before that.. .And the overall experience was that kubuntu was somehow smoother to deal with than ubuntu. But since im new to the whole linux ground I wanted to ask.. Whats the main difference between KDE and Gnome?
[11:51] <eltese> I have understood that its something like this.. In KDE you choose whats best for you. Gnome thinks it knows whats best for you.. Is that correct?
[11:51] <cox377> !powerpc
[11:51] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[11:51] <mindspin> kde uses qt, gome GTK
[11:52] <rag> intelikey: other possibility, is possible put BOOT OPTIONS in a kickstart cfg file?
[11:52] <eltese> mindspin, ok =) And what is the difference between qt and GTK?
[11:52] <rag> intelikey: all line BOOT OPTIONS on http cfg file
[11:53] <intelikey> eltese in a vague sense maybe some points    the botom line is that kde is by default more customizable than gnome.
[11:54] <mindspin> I don't know in detail, sk a developer ;-) but generally spoken kde is far more/easyer to set up for personal needs (thats my view)
[11:54] <eltese> Ok. Thanks :)
[11:54] <intelikey> rag you can make startup scripts let init run them
[11:55] <intelikey> rag you can put scripts in the initrd.img also
[11:55] <rag> intelikey: who init scripts start?
[11:55] <intelikey> who ?
[11:55] <mindspin> I use it because I ever used KDE and was not impressed by gnome (the very early versions) I did not check contemporary Gnome
[11:55] <eltese> just a last question. When running in commands in kubuntu. (Kubuntu was the very first Linux OS i tried.) sudo <- is a gnome command, right? So what is the kubuntu command? I have seen most of the guides to kubuntu are in like ubuntu forums etc
[11:55] <rag> intelikey: my target is start a install unattend
[11:56] <intelikey> rag init script would be the place   imo
[11:56] <rag> intelikey: yeah i put files on nfs, alternate cd, and init scripts
[11:56] <mindspin> with kdesu application name you can start GUI apps like kate, konqueror etc.
[11:57] <rag> intelikey: but i need know init scripts configuration for start install with BOOT OPTIONES DEFAULTS STATIC, i put them
[11:57] <rag> intelikey: where and how to put them?
[11:57] <mindspin> you can still use sudo witch commandline tools
[11:57] <mindspin> with even
[11:58] <eltese> ok
[11:58] <eltese> thanks :)
[12:00] <intelikey> rag init runs what ever is in /etc/rcS.d/S*   it can be shell scripts in which you could do anything you can do from the command line    or perl scripts or python scripts....  or even binary executables for that matter
[12:01] <cox377> !roaming profile
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roaming profile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <cox377> !roaming
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <rag> intelikey: yeah i know inits but can i run on install moment?
[12:02] <cox377> is there a roaming profile platform for linux server to linux clients?
[12:02] <rag> intelikey: alternate cd start them?
[12:02] <intelikey> well i'll put it this way.  find the first script ran (on SysVinit systems it's /etc/inittab) and go from there.
[12:03] <intelikey> i don't know what upstart uses   and i don't know if the alternate cd uses uptart or sysv
[12:03] <rag> intelikey: ok i know inittab, but it exist on install moment?
[12:03] <intelikey> boot the thing and see.
[12:04] <cox377> no?
[12:04] <rag> intelikey: i need put BOOT OPTIONS STATIC when i put F6 not write everytime noapic nolapic etc more kickstart http call
[12:05] <rag> intelikey: everytime i install with alternate cd, i dont want press F6 more insert noapic nolapic...
[12:05] <intelikey> cox377 i don't know.
[12:05] <rag> intelikey: any idea? thx! you are a coders free software true? or system admin?
[12:05] <intelikey> rag ok we are back to pre-boot options.    is that what  "but it exist on install moment?"  is asking ?
[12:06] <intelikey> install moment = pre-boot ?
[12:06] <rag> intelikey: i need put pre-boot options static forever
[12:07] <rag> intelikey: when you install with cd , you can press f6 and insert noapic, nolapic and more boot parameters
[12:07] <rag> intelikey: i want that parameters are static, forever, and i not put them
[12:07] <chupa-chups> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:08] <rag> intelikey: for example pointer to a file on nfs with parameters!
[12:08] <chupa-chups> i wanna ask howcan i show any code
[12:08] <intelikey> rag ok,  i think i follow you.  you need to rebuild the (grub) options   /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:08] <chupa-chups> somebody told me about paste bin but i dont know how
[12:09] <rag> intelikey: intelikey no, but it is for a system installed already
[12:09] <rag> intelikey: and i talk about installing them
[12:09] <rag> intelikey: moment install
[12:09] <chupa-chups> howwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[12:09] <intelikey> as far as i know,  editing what is passed to the kernel from the boot loader is the only way to do what you are asking.
[12:09] <chupa-chups>  i wanna ask howcan i show any code
[12:10] <rag> intelikey: but menu.lst not exist on boot install no'
[12:10] <rag> ?
[12:10] <intelikey> does it not ?
[12:10] <chupa-chups> i have a python code and it doesnt work so i wanna know what is the error
[12:10] <intelikey> you have the disk.  i don't.
[12:11] <rag> intelikey: ideal is put a refer to a nfs file, with boot options
[12:11] <intelikey> !paste | chupa-chups
[12:11] <ubotu> chupa-chups: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:11] <rag> intelikey: i search again on inet, thx a lot intelikey
[12:11] <rag> :)
[12:12] <wily> intelikey:
[12:12] <wily> i'm returne
[12:12] <intelikey> wily ok.
[12:12] <wily> sorry
[12:12] <chupa-chups> ok i will paste and get the url and may any one help me to
[12:12] <wily> problem is the same
[12:12] <intelikey> where are you now ?   same place or have we lost all we did ?
[12:12] <wily> nothing change
[12:12] <wily> same palce
[12:12] <wily> place
[12:12] <intelikey> still in the chroot ?
[12:12] <wily> no
[12:13] <wily> i must to rebbot
[12:13] <intelikey> not same place
[12:13] <wily> yes
[12:13] <wily> i've rebbot to try your modify
[12:13] <intelikey> but i wasn't finished.
[12:13] <wily> oops
[12:13] <wily> sorry
[12:14] <chupa-chups> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37153/
[12:14] <wily> intelikey: i must to repeat all operation?
[12:15] <intelikey> chupa-chups take that url to  #python    ?
[12:15] <intelikey> wily all but the mkinitramfs step
[12:15] <chupa-chups> this is the first time to me using python and i have a code calculating area of 3 shapes and select which shape - then choose if area or premeter
[12:15] <chupa-chups> excuse me ??
[12:16] <chupa-chups> i paste the code there then click paste then i got the url
[12:16] <chupa-chups> is it right
[12:16] <intelikey> chupa-chups you can post your url in the irc channel #python
[12:16] <intelikey> yes  but i don't know python    and someone in  #python might help you where i can.
[12:16] <chupa-chups> thank u
[12:17] <intelikey> can't.
[12:17] <wily> please help me to remember
[12:18] <intelikey> ok sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media
[12:18] <intelikey> wily   ^
[12:18] <intelikey> ok sudo chroot /media
[12:18] <intelikey> wily   ^
[12:19] <chupa-chups> excuse me i try to go there but a message appear to me like that ([Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel)
[12:19] <intelikey> !register | chupa-chups
[12:19] <ubotu> chupa-chups: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:20] <wily> ok
[12:20] <wily> intelikey:
[12:20] <wily> now i launch mkinitramfs
[12:20] <wily> ?
[12:20] <intelikey> ok grep sda5 boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:21] <wily> ok
[12:21] <intelikey> what does it say ?
[12:21] <wily> i paste it
[12:22] <intelikey> if it's one line    paste it here.
[12:22] <intelikey> or even two.
[12:22] <wily> !paste
[12:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:22] <intelikey> else use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:22] <intelikey> yeah that.
[12:23] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37154
[12:24] <intelikey> ok then grub is not the problem.
[12:24] <intelikey> wily that disk is that an scsi interface ?    sata ?     usb ?
[12:25] <wily> is a laptop
[12:25] <wily> normal but windows partition works fine
[12:26] <intelikey> ok lshw
[12:26] <intelikey> and look at the output to see if it says sata or scsi  for the disk
[12:26] <intelikey> or pata
[12:27] <intelikey> because /dev/sda   is not IDE  unless it's using scsi emulation
[12:28] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37155
[12:29] <wily> :-(
[12:29] <intelikey> ok one more   lsmod
[12:30] <intelikey> err you will have to mount proc for that to work in the chroot so in another terminal (outside the chroot) do  lsmod
[12:32] <intelikey> wily ?
[12:33] <wily> one moment
[12:33] <intelikey> ok
[12:35] <wily> opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[12:35] <wily> this is anwer
[12:35] <intelikey> ^^^in another terminal (outside the chroot) do  lsmod
[12:36] <wily> ok
[12:36] <wily> sorry :-(
[12:36] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37158
[12:37] <kraut> moin
[12:37] <VSpike> !ntfs
[12:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:38] <intelikey> wily ok.  right there is what we are looking for.  "scsi_mod              144648  4 sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata "
[12:39] <wily> ..........
[12:40] <intelikey> i'm thinking that 'libata'  is not getting built into the initramfs.img   so we will need to add an entry in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules
[12:40] <intelikey> so we want to edit  /etc/mkinitramfs/modules  ok
[12:41] <wily> in cjroot?
[12:41] <intelikey> in the chroot. ok# nano /etc/mkinitramfs/modules
[12:41] <wily> chroot?i've not this folder
[12:41] <wily> i must to create it?
[12:42] <intelikey> no.
[12:42] <intelikey> do you have /etc/mkinitrd  folder ?
[12:42] <wily> no
[12:42] <wily> i've not
[12:42] <intelikey> in the chroot ?
[12:42] <wily> yes
[12:43] <intelikey> eeek.
[12:44] <intelikey> well lets try making it.  mkdir etc/mkinitramfs
[12:44] <wily> donr
[12:45] <wily> done
[12:47] <Admiral_Chicago> !fstab
[12:47] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:47] <intelikey> wily can you copy that to /media/etc
[12:48] <intelikey> and unpack it ?
[12:48] <wily> ok
[12:48] <wily> i try
[12:54] <wily> ok
[12:54] <wily> done
[12:54] <intelikey> in the chroot, ok#  mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:55] <intelikey> this time it should give you a working initramfs.img file
[12:55] <intelikey> but before you exit i want you to check one more thing for me.
[12:55] <wily> ok
[12:55] <wily> tell me
[12:56] <intelikey> ok grep generic /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:56] <intelikey> just to make sure that grub is actually going to use the new initramfs.img
[12:56] <wily> do u want i paste it?
[12:57] <intelikey> only an init line
[12:57] <wily> i've pasted it
[12:57] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37160
[12:58] <intelikey> yes ok.  it all looks good.
[12:58] <intelikey> is mkinitramfs   finished yet ?
[12:58] <wily> yes
[12:58] <wily> can i reboot?
[12:58] <intelikey> ls -l /boot/init
[12:58] <intelikey> ls -l /boot/init*
[12:59] <intelikey> lets make sure you did make a new one and that it's not empty.
[12:59] <wily> i've an img file
[12:59] <intelikey> size and date ?
[12:59] <wily> now
[12:59] <wily> 13.55 local time
[12:59] <dreamer> anybody here with mt-daap experience ?
[12:59] <wily> 2 minutes ago
[01:00] <intelikey> k and size
[01:00] <intelikey> size is important
[01:00] <wily> 5337921
[01:00] <intelikey> ok test it.
[01:01] <wily> i reboot
[01:01] <intelikey> yes reboot.
[01:02] <wily> same thing
[01:02] <wily> ;-(
[01:03] <intelikey> yes :-(
[01:03] <intelikey> i don't know anything more we can do.
[01:03] <wily> there are a way to recover files
[01:03] <wily> ?
[01:03] <wily> i reinstall all my kubuntu after recovering
[01:03] <intelikey> recover files ?
[01:03] <wily> in my home i've important files
[01:04] <wily> but in chroot they becomes untouchable
[01:04] <intelikey> you could mount the partition and copy your home to another partition.  or disk.   you could make a tar.gz archive of your home/
[01:05] <wily> now i try
[01:05] <wily> after i reinstall kubuntu
[01:05] <intelikey> yes. i would not use "chroot" for that.
[01:05] <wily> thank you very much
[01:05] <wily> and what?
[01:06] <intelikey> wily you're welcome.   and sorry that it's not working correctly for you.
[01:06] <wily> how i can use to copy if not chroot?
 yes. i would not use "chroot" for that. <<< coping the files.    just mount the parttion.  and use a filemanager.
[01:07] <wily> ok
[01:07] <wily> grazie mille (i'm italian!)
[01:07] <intelikey> yes i know.
[01:07] <intelikey> your welcome.
[01:07] <wily> how you know?
[01:08] <intelikey> your ip.
[01:08] <wily> 8-)
[01:08] <intelikey> it's my job to know such things. :)
[01:12] <dreamer> on my desktop I can't find my mt-daap server with Avahi (or any other program)
[01:14] <RoKFiT> when switching my sound to OSS i get the following error... "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers."
[01:15] <RoKFiT> does anyone have any possible ideas what could fix this?
[01:17] <cpk1> I thought oss was old and alsa better to use...
[01:32] <RoKFiT> i'm not sure but it keeps popping
[01:32] <RoKFiT> i'm going to restart to check bios
[01:32] <RoKFiT> brb
[01:33] <malik_> what java packages do we need to install in edgy?
[01:37] <Red_Tear> hi
[01:38] <Red_Tear> Adept sagt dauernd "Another process is using the packaging system database......."
[01:38] <Red_Tear> habe aber meines wissens keinen Prozess am laufen der darauf zugreifen drfte
[01:38] <elbing> did anyone probe HSDPA usb vodafone in kubuntu?
[01:39] <malik_> Red_Tear: u must have had konsole open too and using apt-get..........u can use only one at a time
[01:39] <dreamer> damnit, when I open the avahi zeroconf-browser I just installed on edgy it immediatly disappears
[01:40] <Red_Tear> ups im sorry, wanted to write this in the german channel...... but no Im not doing this atm...
[01:42] <dave086> Does anyone here know about WINE on Kubuntu
[01:42] <dreamer> what is there te know ?
[01:42] <dave086> ah
[01:42] <dave086> Well. I would like to know why it is allways ghosted in Adept
[01:42] <dave086> and  not installable
[01:42] <dreamer> heh, sorry, no idea
[01:43] <dave086> Ah   well...
[01:43] <cpk1> alright guys massive problem, I just tried to upgrade to edgy and now and reboot and cant boot from hdd
[01:43] <cpk1> dave086: what do you need?
[01:43] <dave086> Well. I would like to know why it is allways ghosted in Adept
[01:44] <dave086> (wine)
[01:44] <cpk1> you using the repo from winehq?
[01:44] <dave086> No, It says  I  need  to have....
[01:44] <dave086> umm
[01:44] <dave086> "Synaptic Package Manager"
[01:45] <cpk1> pretty sure you dont, i use wine and dont think i have synaptic
[01:45] <malik_> cpk1: did u upgraded online or from cd?
[01:45] <cpk1> online
[01:45] <cpk1> followed the kubuntu.org instructions
[01:45] <dave086> Are you guys talking about WINE?
[01:45] <cpk1> dave086: go to winehq.org and use their repo
[01:45] <dave086> Yeah, how  do you *use* repos
[01:46] <malik_> aaaaaaah cud be some broken packages or somethin ..........sorry dont know abt that much
[01:46] <cpk1> dave086: do you like to use adept?
[01:46] <cpk1> malik_: well kind of hard to fix broken package when i cant get it to boot =\
[01:46] <dave086> I dont mind,     I  didnt know you could do that   in Adept
[01:46] <dave086> anything will do
[01:47] <cpk1> dave086: i suppose easiest would be to do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <cpk1> and then add the repo from winehq.org into there
[01:47] <dave086> what do you   mean   'do' that command?  In terminal?
[01:49] <cpk1> dave086: yes
[01:49] <dave086> Ah   done.
[01:49] <dave086> I'll berightback and tell you what happened.
[01:50] <dave086> ..nope
[01:50] <dave086> Didnt work
[01:51] <malik_> dave086: if u r using kubuntu edgy then goto the file sources.list right click on it n then actions n then edit as a root n make the change in there n save it n then run adept
[01:52] <cpk1> dave086: did you add the repo from winehq and then in a terminal do sudo aptitude update
[01:52] <dave086> what is the default   sudo    PW?
[01:54] <malik_> ur own PW
[01:54] <cpk1> your main user PW
[01:54] <dave086> Ah good. I tried to   do SU before doing the commands but   It   didnt like me.
[01:54] <dave086> Also on     e other
[01:54] <sMu> holaaaa
[01:55] <dave086> Whatr address   is  the multiverse repository  and how  do i  get the MP3  codec   from it?
[01:55] <mauro> !java
[01:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:55] <malik_> libxine-extracodecs thats the package u need to play mp3z in kubuntu edgy
[01:56] <dave086> Dont use edgy
[01:56] <dave086> LTS  Dappler
[01:56] <dave086> "E: Couldn't rebuild package cache"
[01:56] <malik_> dapper kubuntu or ubuntu?
[01:56] <dave086> hrm.
[01:56] <dave086> Ku
[01:57] <malik_> well still that paCkage sould do the trick ...........plus may be u wanna try w32codecs
[01:57] <dave086> from multiverse?
[01:57] <malik_> i think thats where they are
[01:57] <dave086> I'm still having trouble ADDING repositories.
[01:58] <dave086> =3
[01:58] <malik_> i can pase my sources.list entries for u if u like but for that u might have to pm me coz cant paste em in the main channel
[01:58] <dave086> yes okay
[01:59] <chris__> hello, I request some help please about "wget"
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> w32 codecs are not in the multiverse
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted
[01:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:59] <chris__> why isn't wget working on my kubuntu ?
[01:59] <malik_> well there we go.........some one with knowledge
[01:59] <dave086> PM'd    you.
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> dave086: please paste your sources.list
[02:00] <malik_> bummer im blocked from pmz
[02:00] <dave086> Here?
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | dave086
[02:00] <ubotu> dave086: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[02:00] <dave086> That will get me kicked.
[02:00] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: can you please help me ?
[02:00] <malik_> i ll pase it on pastebin.........do u know how to use em?
[02:01] <dave086> Not paticularly, but anyways.
[02:01] <mauro> malik_: you have to register to use PMs
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: what is the issuo?
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> i can try, but I am busy as well
[02:01] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: wget isn't working
[02:01] <malik_> or u can try the instruction on http://easylinux.info
[02:01] <mauro> Admiral_Chicago: you know if java sdk was removed from the repos ?
[02:01] <malik_> to make use of diff repo
[02:01] <mauro> i do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk and it sais its not there
[02:02] <mauro> and ye,s i enabled everything :P
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> mauro: not sure what is your output
[02:02] <soulrider> it sais it cant find the pacckage
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: what are you trying to do
[02:02] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: check this please and tell me how I can resolve it .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37167/
[02:03] <dave086> Umm...
[02:03] <dave086> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[02:03] <dave086>   Major opcode:  145
[02:03] <dave086>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:03] <dave086>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:03] <dave086> Failed to open device
[02:03] <dave086> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[02:03] <dave086>   Major opcode:  145
[02:03] <dave086>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:03] <dave086>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:03] <dave086> Failed to open device
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> stop, use a paste bin
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste
[02:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: apt-cache search ampp
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> wget is a tool that connects to a specific website to get a .deb
[02:04] <dave086> I  KNow that.  I'm saying I CANT GET TO SOURCES.LIST!
[02:04] <dave086> =)
[02:04] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: it said Invalid operation search
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-cache search ampp
[02:04] <soulrider> did you do sudo ?
[02:04] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago:  I tried it with sudo yeah..
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> dave086: kate /etc/apt/souces.list
[02:05] <chris__> root@chris-desktop:/home/chris# apt-get search amp
[02:05] <chris__> E: Invalid operation search
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> cd
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache search ampp
[02:05] <dave086> Sources.list   is       blank
[02:05] <dave086> And it wasn't... about  2min ago
[02:06] <dave086> ahh
[02:06] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: how can i enable the apt-get search ?? i use to use it on Ubuntu
[02:06] <soulrider> chris__: do "sudo aptitude search amp"
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago>  sources
[02:06] <dave086> I made it      Souces
[02:06] <dave086> Whoops.
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: like i said cd
[02:06] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean cd?
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> your problem is "/home/chris#"
[02:06] <chris__> ohh
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> type that in a konsole
[02:07] <chris__> okay let me try
[02:07] <malik__> dave086: okie do this..........i am goin to give u a url of pastebin from where u can get the list of my repos n add em to ur sources.list
[02:07] <dave086> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37168/
[02:07] <malik__> !pastebin
[02:07] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: it's still giving me invalid operation
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> !easysource
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> malik__: standby please
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> where is the bot?
[02:08] <chris__> [15:07]  <-- ubotu has left this server (Remote closed the connection).
[02:08] <malik__> ai ai admiral
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !easysource
[02:08] <dave086> Exactly,     it   left.
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ah dammit it
[02:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:09] <dave086> One    thing I *do* know about is IRC.
[02:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[02:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[02:10] <dave086> OKay,    so          am    I being helped here?
[02:11] <chris__> please someone, can you tell me how to enable apt-get search ?
[02:11] <dave086> Is  this a   netsplit?
[02:11] <malik__> dave086: yes just wait admiral is getting stuff for u
[02:11] <murchadh_bhaba> chris__, check to see that wget is installed. dpkg -l | grep wget
[02:11] <dave086> Ahkay
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> dave086: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37169/
[02:11] <dave086> Okay
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> that is your new sources.list
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu kate /etc/sources.list
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: i have a ton of homework, same here malik__
[02:12] <chris__> murchadh_bhaba:  yeah it is, but i can't do apt-get search it tells me Invalid operation.. and i'm root
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll be happy to help at a later time
[02:12] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: okay thanks..
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm sorry, email me
[02:12] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: will do. thanks again.
[02:13] <dave086> OKay
[02:13] <murchadh_bhaba> chris__, That dpkg -l work at all? I'm just wonderin'.
[02:13] <chris__> murchadh_bhaba:  yeah it did..
[02:13] <chris__> root@chris-desktop:/home# apt-get search hi
[02:13] <chris__> E: Invalid operation search
[02:14] <chris__> what can I do to fix this
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-get can't search
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache can
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache search string
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> freddy@omicron:~/Examples$ apt-cache search gaim-themes
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> gaim-themes - Smiley themes collection for gaim
[02:14] <chris__> i used to search with apt-get on ubuntu.. i was using it like a year ago.. so i could search files on the net instead of cache..
[02:15] <chris__> how can i update it then ?? so it can find the latest software using the cache ?
[02:15] <malik__> dave086: did u get the list of repoz admiral gave u?
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> your repos are net
[02:15] <dave086> Yes.
[02:16] <chris__> How do i edit repos.. etc..
[02:16] <dave086> Document cannot be saved.
[02:16] <chris__> and what repos should I use..
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo
[02:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:17] <chris__> the website doesnt work
[02:17] <chris__> help.ubuntu can't be resolved..
[02:17] <j__> anyone know how to run the ur-quan masters in fullscreen?
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> works here
[02:18] <chris__> okay my browser just died..
[02:18] <dave086> Works here.
[02:18] <dave086> so anyways,    I cant  save that file now.
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> how are you opening it?
[02:19] <dave086> Ah I forgot    sudo
[02:19] <malik__> :)
[02:20] <j__> nevermind, found it
[02:23] <dave086> Drumroll...
[02:23] <dave086> Wine  is..
[02:23] <dave086> Ghosted.
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going?
[02:24] <dave086> who         are   you  talking  to
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> dave086: to Jucato sorry
[02:24] <dave086> s'kay
[02:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: doing fine... (I think)
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> -offtopic?
[02:25] <Jucato> um ok...
[02:28] <malik__> seems like not many ppl from homeland here
[02:29] <malik__> australia
[02:29] <Jucato> ah...
[02:29] <malik__> best country on gods green earth:)
[02:29] <big_> Hi...
[02:29] <Jucato> the kubuntu community manager is an aussie :)
[02:29] <Eyeless> !java
[02:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:30] <malik__> really?........didnt know that.......sorry
[02:30] <dave086> Im anaussie    :)
[02:30] <malik__> i ll b damned
[02:31] <dave086> O  Rly?
[02:31] <malik__> all of sudden fair few
[02:31] <dave086> Where are you?
[02:31] <malik__> blacktown sydney
[02:31] <dave086> Ah okay, Barwon heads, Victoria
[02:32] <mauro_> ~mp3
[02:32] <dave086> (near   geelong)
[02:32] <mauro_> !mp3
[02:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
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[02:32] <malik__> hmm
[02:33] <Jucato> !au
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about au - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <Jucato> hm...
[02:35] <osh_> !aptitude
[02:35] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:36] <DinoeL> !eric
[02:36] <ubotu> eric: full featured Python IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9.1-1 (edgy), package size 1888 kB, installed size 11356 kB
[02:37] <osh_> !jpegtran
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jpegtran - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <Eyeless> !ipod
[02:46] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:47] <Eyeless> !hal
[02:47] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[02:47] <dave086> OKay.   I  have  WINE  Installed. Now where   is it and how  do  i    *run* it?
[02:49] <steffen> hi
[02:49] <steffen> kann jemand deutsch?
[02:50] <Jucato> !de
[02:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:50] <osh_> Howto find out which package contains jpegtran and exifautotran?
[02:51] <Jucato> !exiftran
[02:51] <ubotu> exiftran: transform digital camera jpeg images. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.05-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB
[02:52] <Jucato> actually...
[02:52] <Jucato> !libjpeg-progs | osh_
[02:52] <ubotu> libjpeg-progs: Programs for manipulating JPEG files. In component main, is optional. Version 6b-13 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 208 kB
[02:53] <osh_> Jucato: Thanks. But how did you find that out?
[02:54] <Jucato> trade secret :P
[02:54] <Jucato> j/k
[02:54] <Jucato> osh_: in Konqueror, type in "apt:/" then go to the File Search field and enter jpegtran
[02:54] <osh_> Jucato: I'm familiar enough with rpm do be able to do it there, but in *deb it's still a mystery.
[02:54] <osh_> Jucato: Good tip. Thanks.
[02:55] <Jucato> honestly, I don't know what the manual dpkg command is :)
[02:55] <Jucato> I'll find out... one of these days...
[02:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :0
[02:56] <kkathman> dpkg = rpm  basically   for the main help, type   man  dpkg   at the console
[02:56] <BluesKaj> err :)
[02:57] <Jucato> kkathman: yeah... I just mean I haven't tried searching for the backend of that utility
[02:58] <BluesKaj> Is anyone able to write to the hda1 (NTFS) partition from kubuntu and if so how is it done ? ... i get permission denied
[02:58] <kkathman> Jucato:   hehe, dpkg isnt used quite as often on k/ubuntu as much at apt... much like yast/smart/yum kinda replace rpm most of the time on other distros
[02:59] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, You need an ntfs driver which supports read/write like ntfs-3g or the like!
[03:01] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, I did that yesterday but I have an error in /etc/fstab ...I also tried to insatll Fuse which is required too.
[03:01] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, You'll need to enable some repositories, install the driver, umount the drive remount it with sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw,umask=000 /dev/hd_whatever /media/hda1 or custoized to your own needs.
[03:02] <Jucato> kkathman, osh_: found the command: dpkg -S <filename> (seems to work only with installed packages, though :( )
[03:03] <CVirus> Isn't there a 6.10 ISO for Kubuntu ?!
[03:03] <fannagoganna> yes there is
[03:03] <Jucato> CVirus: there is
[03:03] <CVirus> oops
[03:03] <CVirus> found it
[03:03] <CVirus> sorr
[03:03] <CVirus> sorry*
[03:03] <kkathman> Jucato:  correct, only installed packages
[03:03] <munelec> hola alguin de chile
[03:04] <kkathman> !es
[03:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:04] <binary2k2> Jucato, kkathman, there is a package called apt-file that can search for files in a package, even if it's not installed
[03:04] <kkathman> hmm looks like Konqueror was my culprit on high cpu idle :(
[03:05] <Jucato> binary2k2: yep. but it's not installed by default :)
[03:05] <binary2k2> nope, but that's what apt-get is good for :p
[03:05] <Jucato> :)
[03:05] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, whatever /media/hda1 ?
[03:05] <binary2k2> you can search on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:06] <Jucato> binary2k2: apt:/ also has an interface for doing that :)
[03:06] <Presnus> hey anybody knows a good tool so I can see my system stats on my desktop ?
[03:06] <kkathman> binary2k2:  what would be the diff between apt-file and apt-cache, etc with maybe grep ?
[03:06] <kkathman> description search?
[03:06] <Jucato> kkathman: apt-file is like that dpkg -S command, but can search through all packages, installed or not
[03:07] <Jucato> that's afaik
[03:07] <kkathman> wouldnt that make it like apt-cache then?
[03:07] <Presnus> somebody that knows such tool ?
[03:07] <binary2k2> kkathman: apt-file can be used to search for a specific file, and see what package it's in, or list the contense of a package. apt-cache searches name/description and shows dependencies and the like
[03:07] <kkathman> I've used apt-cache <blah> | grep <blah>  before and narrowed down things I guess
[03:08] <kkathman> binary2k2:  ahhh ok.. kewl :)
[03:08] <Jucato> kkathman: "Unlike apt-cache, you can search in which package a file is included or list the contents of a package without installing or fetching it." (package description)
[03:09] <kkathman> kewl.. wonder why that util is not included on default?
[03:09] <binary2k2> I've used apt-file to search for a specific header file I needed to compile an app, to find what package it's in
[03:09] <kkathman> seems very useful (maybe its valuable to people that do alot of dev work I suppose_
[03:09] <Jucato> ... or to people that do a lot of snooping :P
[03:10] <binary2k2> it's probably not included by default, because "most people" don't need it
[03:11] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1. Sorry, I knew you were using hda1.
[03:11] <kkathman> does artsd constantly run and consume resource... it keeps popping to the top of my top and Im not even playing anything
[03:12] <malik__> does edgy has ntfs write access?
[03:12] <malik__> or do we need special package installed?
[03:12] <binary2k2> malik__: no, you have to install a special driver for it
[03:12] <malik__> is it safe?
[03:13] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[03:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:13] <Jucato> !fuse
[03:13] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:13] <binary2k2> I don't know, don't have any ntfs partitions
[03:13] <Jucato> basically, it's a "use at your own risk" thing
[03:13] <Jucato> may work for some, may not work for others
[03:13] <binary2k2> just wait untill vista comes out with a new version of ntfs
[03:14] <malik__> aaaaaaaaaaah in that case i better leave it alone...........as they say curiousity killed the cat
[03:14] <malik__> :)
[03:14] <binary2k2> curiousity killed the partition :p
[03:15] <kkathman> yeah I dont ever write things to my windows boxes from linux.. I just go to the windows and pull the file over
[03:15] <malik__> :) cant risk that too much data on it
[03:15] <Ash-Fox> binary2k2, vista did come out with a new version of NTFS
[03:15] <kkathman> much safer :)
[03:15] <binary2k2> Ash-Fox: I mean when it released for sale, unless it's for sale now
[03:16] <dopez> i'm trying to figure out how i can get 'run command' , (alt-f2) to autocomplete the command i'm typing, instead of having to press tab, this is the default behaviour in opensuse but if cannot figure out where i can set the option, anyone here can give me a clue ?
[03:16] <binary2k2> I don't keep up with the MS news
[03:16] <malik__> vista has just stolen few tricks n functions from mac n linux
[03:16] <Ash-Fox> binary2k2, it is
[03:16] <binary2k2> malik__: nothing new there
[03:16] <dreamer> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=10535.msg44001
[03:16] <malik__> nothin new really apart from dotting the holes in security of the windows code
[03:16] <cpk1> you know whats depressing? borking your edgy upgrade and then when you go to boot your laptop having that have a couple of bad inodes
[03:17] <Ash-Fox> malik__, please, stop with the stealing non-sense
[03:17] <binary2k2> microsoft, stop stealing, haha, as if :p
[03:18] <Ash-Fox> "Microsoft stole this from Apple" "Well Apple stole it from Xerox" "..."
[03:18] <dreamer> anybody check that link ?
[03:20] <Presnus> Does somebody knows an program that show your system stats on the desktop ?
[03:20] <malik__> kdesklets i think
[03:20] <kkathman> Presnus:  what kind of stats ?
[03:20] <hydester> hi.  i am using edgy and am trying to pair to my bluetooth phone via PPP.  my phone asks for the PIN, then says that it failed yet the computer never asks for a PIN too
[03:20] <Presnus> like ethernet use, disk space, cpu load, memory stats
[03:21] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, sudo mount -a , [mntent] : line 12 in /etc/fstab is bad
[03:21] <hydester> any tricks to bluetooth pairing?
[03:21] <cpk1> Presnus: superkaramba has many
[03:21] <Presnus> lets search google for that :)
[03:21] <kkathman> Presnus:  there are many,  I use gkrellm (which is really a gtk app, but is skinnable and low overhead)
[03:22] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, sudo nano /etc/fstab and scroll down to line 12
[03:22] <Presnus> I'm installing gkrellm
[03:22] <malik__> !gkrellm
[03:23] <ubotu> gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[03:23] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Compare it's syntax with the others, comment it out if it doesn't work. We'll fix it!
[03:23] <dreamer> so does anybody know what this ACPI: Invalid PBLK length [5]  during boot means ?
[03:23] <cpk1> Presnus: gkrellm is good but if you like eyecandy then superkaramba apps are for you
[03:23] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, /dev/partition /media/mount point ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:23] <dreamer> I havi it on my 6.10 install
[03:23] <Presnus> first time linux desktop
[03:25] <soulrider> Presnus: linux rocks!
[03:26] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, this is weird , the first 6 lines are commented out
[03:27] <kkathman> Presnus:  superkaramba widgets are good, but they come at a CPU overhead, especially the system monitor widgets.  gkrellm, as I said is very skinnable (over 1000) and its adjustable in size/width too.
[03:28] <cpk1> but superkaramba has other widgets besides system monitor!
[03:28] <cpk1> =P
[03:28] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Is that what's in your fstab, your penultimate post. Needs the /dev/hda1 and the /media/hda1. Rest of it looks fine.
[03:29] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, I'll post it in pastebin so you can take a look
[03:29] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, And don't worry about the commented out lines unless you know you need them.
[03:29] <stevie> howdy
[03:29] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Cool!
[03:30] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, You're nearly there though!
[03:30] <soulrider> BluesKaj: im trying to install sun-java5-jdk
[03:30] <stevie> This Kubuntu sure is diff
[03:30] <soulrider> when i do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[03:30] <soulrider> it sais it cant install the package
[03:30] <soulrider> sais its not available for some reason
[03:30] <soulrider> and that it ahs no installation candidate
[03:30] <soulrider> any ideas?
[03:33] <binary2k2> soulrider: do you have the multiverse repository enabled?
[03:33] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, http://pastebin.ca/279970
[03:34] <swanfl> what programs do I need to run my logitech webcam?
[03:34] <swanfl> it's an older model
[03:34] <Presnus> somebody that knows a good tool like limewire ?
[03:34] <stevie> I'm here
[03:34] <Presnus> because cant install limewire
[03:34] <swanfl> Presnus, try frostwire
[03:35] <Presnus> okay
[03:35] <BluesKaj> soulrider, try DL in the d-pkg from the java site , or using the auto install there
[03:35] <Presnus> googling :P
[03:35] <swanfl> it's a limewire equivalent
[03:35] <swanfl> and it's open source
[03:35] <notbbt> i think im gonna get my buddy to switch to kubuntu from winxp :)
[03:35] <swanfl> good deal notbbt
[03:35] <swanfl> :)
[03:36] <notbbt> in winxp, he uses thunderbird for mail, firefox for browser, and xchat for irc and absolutely loves all three
[03:36] <soulrider> i got multiverse anabled
[03:36] <soulrider> i get the same error
[03:36] <soulrider> with libxine-extracodecs
[03:36] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Just gonna have a peek now.
[03:36] <BluesKaj> cool, murchadh_bhaba
[03:37] <binary2k2> soulrider: can you post you /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin?
[03:37] <binary2k2> !pastebin
[03:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:38] <RealisticDragon> !eifka
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eifka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <soulrider> yes
[03:38] <soulrider> just a sec
[03:38] <Presnus> how can I install a deb package because when I click on it it says ""
[03:38] <Presnus> The utility is not in your PATH.
[03:38] <Presnus> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[03:38] <notbbt> and i said tonight to him, no strings attached but i'll bring my spare drive, put the live kubuntu on it, install it, get vmware and put winxp in it ( where it belongs really :) and what ya need you could go virtual with. hopefully will be after the weekend :)
[03:38] <soulrider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37179/
[03:39] <BluesKaj> notbbt, xchat isn't so great in linux ...altho we all love free stuff ..konversation is much better :)
[03:39] <notbbt> BluesKaj: i prefer konversation but hey, he's on the right path
[03:39] <RealisticDragon> xchat is nice because of the perl scripting
[03:40] <RealisticDragon> i wrote a complete IRC bot on with 3 lines of code, and one was importing the libraries for xchat :P
[03:40] <BluesKaj> yup murchadh_bhaba,  notbbt, no doubt about that :)
[03:40] <binary2k2> soulrider: you have multiverse in the backport repository, but not in the 'edgy' one
[03:40] <BluesKaj> RealisticDragon, which noob do you know uses perl scripting ? :)
[03:41] <binary2k2> soulrider: you need to add a line like this "deb http://uy.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse"
[03:41] <RealisticDragon> BluesKaj: hm well back in 199-something it wasnt uncommon :P
[03:41] <soulrider> oh, thanks
[03:42] <soulrider> binary2k2: isnt thats upposed ot come by default ?
[03:43] <binary2k2> soulrider: no
[03:43] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.ca/279975 have a gander at that.
[03:43] <binary2k2> soulrider: neither the universe or multiverse are enabled by default
[03:44] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, copy and paste ?
[03:44] <soulrider> but i did enable them
[03:46] <binary2k2> soulrider: you had universe enabled, but not multiverse on the main 'edgy' repository, only on the 'edgy-backports' repository
[03:47] <sercik> i can't install msttcorefonts some have experimented this problem and can love it?
[03:47] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Should do the trick. sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig first as backup. Then you can paste into the existing file or a new one.
[03:48] <sercik> the installer is not able to download the files from sourceforge mirror
[03:48] <sercik> but i can manually download it
[03:48] <soulrider> ah
[03:48] <sercik> it is possible to tell the installer to search on mt local disk fot the files?
[03:48] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, I suspect you may be using kate so kdesu kate /etc/fstab. Either comment out every line or delete every line. Then paste in what's in thje bin.
[03:48] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, /etc/fstab  won't open
[03:49] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[03:51] <symbulos> hi there
[03:52] <symbulos> just installed kubuntu 6.10 on laptop but the screen is completely blank when I startup
[03:52] <symbulos> do you know how to start in console mode?
[03:52] <osh_> symbulos: If it's an X problem you could press ctrl-alt-f1
[03:53] <osh_> symbulos: That'd give you a console.
[03:53] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, Press alt^F1 or F2 should get you to a terminal/konsole!
[03:54] <symbulos> I imagine it is a X problem due to the ati mobility x700 card
[03:54] <binary2k2> or just boot in to "recovery mode"
[03:54] <symbulos> but when I do alt + f1 i do not switch to console mode as I should
[03:55] <binary2k2> symbulos: then boot in to recovery mode
[03:55] <osh_> symbulos: try ctrl-alt-f1. not just alt-f1.
[03:55] <symbulos> I tried ctrl-alt-f1, without success
[03:55] <symbulos> after starting in recovery mode what do i do?
[03:56] <symbulos> the procedure i used for 6.06 was to install in text mode
[03:56] <binary2k2> symbulos: it will start in a single-user console mode
[03:56] <osh_> symbulos: then it's a reboot I'd say. start by looking for X-errors in /var/log/
[03:56] <symbulos> the switch to console mode, install ati driver, restart the machine, but now it does not work
[03:57] <symbulos> can I start in recovery mode and install the drivers from there?
[03:57] <osh_> symbulos: sure, just make sure you enable networking and other things you need.
[03:57] <binary2k2> symbulos: you'll want to boot in to the recovery mode (from the grub menu), then look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[03:58] <alexicon> hello
[03:58] <alexicon> im trying to reinstall kubuntu edgy on my laptop now because WIFI doesnt work at all
[03:58] <symbulos> thanks, I am doing it whilst we speak
[03:58] <alexicon> some dhcp release problem
[03:58] <alexicon> anyone else having issues??
[03:58] <alexicon> its really annoying not being able to use wifi in kubuntu
[03:59] <alexicon> i didnt have to do anything special to get it to work in dapper or in suse....
[03:59] <alexicon> it sees networks but i cant connect ever
[03:59] <alexicon> never gets the IP
[03:59] <sercik> l
[03:59] <alexicon> tried configuring it in kcontrol, kwifimanager, wlanassistant...
[04:00] <alexicon> nothing can connect to dhcp servers
[04:00] <alexicon> even open systems i cant connect to
[04:00] <osh_> alexicon: I have the same problem. fscking annoying. Just try to connect, then open a konsole and sudo dhclient <interface> and it'll work.
[04:00] <eMaX> re
[04:00] <alexicon> ok
[04:00] <alexicon> thanks osh_
[04:00] <alexicon> :/ just dont know how they could have released this in such a poor state
[04:00] <osh_> alexicon: replace <interface> with the name of your interface obviously.
[04:00] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, I hate to be such PITA but this the message when i try to open hda1
[04:01] <alexicon> yteah osh_
[04:01] <alexicon> seems like such a simple thing to fix as well
[04:01] <alexicon> !bug report
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug report - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <alexicon> !bugs
[04:01] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:02] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, http://pastebin.ca/279984
[04:02] <osh_> alexicon: if you want to see networking done right, have a look at mandriva 2007. Other issues there naturally but networking is just dead simple and wonderful. =)
[04:02] <alexicon> just wasting my time doing a reinstall -_- the live cd doesnt work with wifi anymore either...
[04:02] <alexicon> mandriva..
[04:02] <alexicon> i really hate rpm
[04:02] <alexicon> its so last century
[04:02] <alexicon> that said i use suse now since kubuntu has a lame leg
[04:02] <alexicon> but i still loathe rpms :P
[04:03] <alexicon> last time i used that it was called mandrake :P
[04:03] <osh_> suse... ah MS-Linux you mean... =)
[04:03] <alexicon> nah suse is beautiful
[04:03] <alexicon> and its got the best hardware detection ive even encountered
[04:03] <alexicon> take a lesson!
[04:03] <alexicon> you can see the money at work with suse
[04:03] <osh_> alexicon: sure, and they're also in bed with microsoft. =)
[04:03] <alexicon> lol
[04:03] <alexicon> well i'll pay my praise when we can write to ntfs
[04:04] <alexicon> usually im all for ubuntu but this wifi thing is unforgivable
[04:04] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Just havin a gander.
[04:04] <alexicon> i install linux for a lot of friends and this would really put people off
[04:04] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Type mount to see if it is already mounted (/dev/hda1)
[04:04] <BluesKaj> alexicon , that's what I'm trying to do ...write to the windows partition
[04:04] <alexicon> not going to happen BluesKaj
[04:04] <alexicon> not without some experimental modules that wont work anyway :P
[04:05] <symbulos> osh_ what should i look for in Xorg.0.log?
[04:05] <osh_> Except for the wifi the upgrade to edgy also broke my suspend-to-disk thingy. i should probably report it...
[04:05] <osh_> symbulos: errors
[04:05] <alexicon> yeah me too osh_
[04:05] <alexicon> -_-
[04:05] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, At a console type sudo umount /dev/hda1
[04:05] <BluesKaj> alexicon, according to others , we can
[04:05] <osh_> symbulos: Have a look at the last 10 lines or so.
[04:05] <alexicon> ive never seen it work, but yeah ive heard the rumours
[04:06] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, ok, done
[04:06] <alexicon> ntfs is evil
[04:06] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, At a console type sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[04:06] <binary2k2> symbulos: errors will start with (EE)
[04:06] <osh_> !ntfs
[04:06] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:06] <osh_> !fuse
[04:06] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:06] <symbulos> osh_ the only error is a error opening /dev/wacom
[04:06] <alexicon> interesting
[04:07] <BluesKaj> ok murchadh_bhaba, done as well
[04:07] <symbulos> what on earth is a /dev/wacom?
[04:07] <osh_> symbulos: that's odd. what'll happen if you run "startx"? Screen go blank again and you have to reboot?
[04:07] <osh_> symbulos: a pointing device.
[04:08] <symbulos> osh_ wait
[04:08] <osh_> symbulos: and can you kill X again with ctrl-alt-backspace?
[04:08] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Type sudo touch /media/hda1/testfile
[04:08] <symbulos> osh_ yes, screen gone balnk need to restart. i try to restart the xserver now.
[04:09] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, Tablet (pen thingy for drawing etc.)
[04:09] <symbulos> osh_  yes, screen gone balnk need to restart. i try to restart the xserver now.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> thx murchadh_bhaba, I just copied a music file to my windows my music folder ..COOL!
[04:09] <RealisticDragon> if you want a graphics tablet, buy a wacom :o
[04:09] <symbulos> murchadh_bhaba thanks
[04:09] <symbulos> osh_ yes, I can stop the xserver
[04:10] <symbulos> osh_ shall I install the ati drivers?
[04:10] <RealisticDragon> i tried a cheaper tablet and it was rubbish :( sold and brought a proper wacom tablet now :)
[04:10] <fadey> Hello, everyone. Does anybody know how could I find out all IPs assigned by my dhcp server to people
[04:11] <sercik> noone could explain me how to install msttcorefonts?
[04:12] <sercik> the installe rcan't donload andale32 etc. etc. from sourceforge
[04:12] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, I agree that ntfs is evil. I'm no advocate. Just had to do this for a few people. If there are no errors on the drive, and it mounts, it seems fine. I don't write much to it, I use it more to delete stuff from my WinXP partition. Although I haven't been in Win in 3 months.
[04:12] <alexicon> yeah murchadh_bhaba no doubt
[04:12] <alexicon> it would definately be handy to get it working consistantly
[04:12] <binary2k2> fadey: from the server you'll need to find "dhcpd.leases" somewhere in /var
[04:13] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Read up on that driver. alexicon It's pretty sta
[04:13] <symbulos> osh_ what shall I do?
[04:13] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, Sorry, it's pretty straight forward.
[04:13] <alexicon> :)
[04:13] <alexicon> cool
[04:13] <BluesKaj> seems to work very quickly too , great stuff murchadh_bhaba :)
[04:14] <alexicon> murchadh_bhaba: the fuse one you mean?
[04:14] <fadey> binary2k2: But there I have all the history for all times. Is there a way to see only the recent leases&
[04:15] <BluesKaj> alexicon, here's a site that may help http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[04:15] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, Add givre's repository which I can paste bin for you, apt-get ntfs-3g, umount /dev/hda1 or whatever, sudo mount -t ntfs -o rw,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[04:15] <alexicon> cheers
[04:15] <alexicon> id like to be able to run my games from windows in kubuntu, think it will be ok with that?
[04:15] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, Assuming it is hda1 and mount point /media/hda1 exists
[04:15] <binary2k2> fadey: I don't know, It's been a while since I've run a dhcp server
[04:16] <fadey> binary2k2: :-(
[04:16] <alexicon> locate lease ! grep dhcp
[04:16] <alexicon> with a pipe not a !
[04:16] <alexicon> need to fix my xkb..
[04:16] <oem> Greetings
[04:17] <binary2k2> parties for everone #ubuntu-cafe
[04:17] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, You'll need some kind of emulator. I use wine, less and less though.
[04:17] <alexicon> party?? ^_^
[04:17] <alexicon> yeah wine
[04:17] <alexicon> i subscribe to cedega too
[04:17] <alexicon> wines been gettin better and better tho
[04:17] <alexicon> used to need cedega for wow
[04:17] <symbulos> help!
[04:17] <alexicon> but wine does a fine job now
[04:18] <symbulos> shall I install the proprietary ati driver?
[04:18] <sercik> hey please only a question...
[04:18] <alexicon> hmm
[04:18] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, cedega sounds the bomb allright. I don't really need Win any more. And Wine works for when I do. ??)
[04:19] <alexicon> :D
[04:19] <alexicon> yeah i havent used win in years actually
[04:19] <alexicon> i just got a laptop this summer tho
[04:19] <symbulos> osh_  murchadh_bhaba can I have the MOBILITY RADEON X700 work without using the propriatary driver?
[04:19] <alexicon> has winxp on it -_-
[04:20] <alexicon> since compiz doesnt like doing games, i started using windows again for it
[04:20] <alexicon> brb
[04:24] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, One of my kids uses my PC for Guitar Pro. I must see about trying to run it wine.
[04:25] <ScarFreewill> !rename
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <symbulos> ti
[04:25] <symbulos> !ati
[04:25] <murchadh_bhaba> !vesa
[04:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:25] <ScarFreewill> whats the e name command? lol :P
[04:25] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[04:25] <symbulos> !ifconfig
[04:25] <binary2k2> ScarFreewill: mv
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <ScarFreewill> binary2k2, thx
[04:25] <binary2k2> ScarFreewill: eg: mv file1.txt file2.txt :D
[04:26] <ScarFreewill> binary2k2, ok thx
[04:26] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, Did you see ubotu's reply above?
[04:27] <luca_b> Hello! A question for anyone using the shell: how do I sort a text file for fields that contain mixed characters(numbers,letters, hypens, points)
[04:29] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto - really good link!
[04:31] <alexicon> omg im a retard..
[04:31] <dr0fnax> !xgl
[04:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:31] <alexicon> lol
[04:35] <dreamer> dude :P
[04:36] <alexicon> i know this partition table better than the back of my hand :P
[04:36] <nagyv> hello! could someone explain me how can I use amarok's media storage with an usb stick? I just would like to copy files to the stick and listen to track already on the stick.
[04:39] <case> !libarts1-dev
[04:39] <ubotu> libarts1-dev: development files for the aRts sound system core components. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1171 kB, installed size 6364 kB
[04:39] <Adlai> nagyv, when you put in the stick, amarok should detect it as a media device
[04:39] <Adlai> if not, mount it yourself and use the "files" tab in amarok to copy/play things
[04:42] <nagyv> Adlai: it recognizes it, but which "plugin" should I use? generic audio player or music sharing? Under the files tab I can not copy, just play.
[04:42] <Adlai> dunno, try both
[04:43] <Adlai> if you mount it as a regular drive with user privileges you shouldn't have trouble copying to it though
[04:43] <Adlai> if you're mounting it as root that's your problem
[04:43] <alexicon> it should be mounted as the user when its put in anyway though
[04:43] <nagyv> Adlai: I mount it as a regular drive (with kubuntus automatic pmount script)
[04:43] <alexicon> amarok just notices when its mounted
[04:43] <alexicon> yeah
[04:44] <Adlai> what error do you get when you try to copy files to it
[04:44] <alexicon> you trying to add files to the usb thing or remove them
[04:44] <alexicon> or do both not work
[04:44] <symbulos> !network
[04:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:45] <alexicon> whats up symbulos
[04:45] <alexicon> got wifi hassles?
[04:45] <RoKFiT> maybe because i am on kubuntu
[04:46] <alexicon> @_@
[04:46] <nagyv> I select "Transfer to Media Device", then under the media devices tab there is a transfer queue. If I choose Generic audio player, then I can not transfer it from the queue. If I choose Music Sharing then I get "Failed to copy track to media device: /media/maxtor1/Anima S S/anima sound system - '68.mp3"
[04:46] <shadowhywind> hay all, ever sense yesterday * i screwed soemthing up* When ever i open up adept, it says another proccess is using it so I can't make any changes and i forgot what the konsole command was to fix it
[04:47] <murchadh_bhaba> There's that BluesKaj back again. Lovely....
[04:47] <alexicon> permissions all ok nagyv?
[04:48] <alexicon> BluesKaj: do you hang out in #bash?
[04:48] <Adlai> nagyv, just go to the files tab, not the media player tab
[04:48] <nagyv> alexicon: it should be ok
[04:48] <Adlai> navigate to /media/maxtor1 and try to copy there
[04:48] <nagyv> Adlai: and what to do there?
[04:48] <symbulos> does anyone know hw to maually configure a network so that the ip address is fetched using dhcp (no graphics)?
[04:49] <nagyv> I tried to drop the file from the playlist, but it did not worked
[04:49] <Adlai> see if it's a problem with your permissions or amarok
[04:49] <nagyv> Adlai: but I would like to copy from /media/maxtor1 to /media/usbstick
[04:49] <shadowhywind> symbulos do you mean like dhcpcd eth0 (in konsole)
[04:49] <nagyv> Adlai: how could I check that?
[04:49] <Adlai> well then navigate to /media/usbstick
[04:50] <Adlai> or, better yet, open each in your favorite file manager and copy that way
[04:50] <symbulos> shadowhywind well this is the first time I try to do it by hand, because I need to download the ati drivers in text mode
[04:50] <nagyv> Adlai: yes this was the boring way, that I wanted to avoid, given that I have to select a lot of tracks from even more tracks :)
[04:50] <case> how can i create a local mirror?
[04:51] <symbulos> shadowhywind but I do not know where to start from
[04:51] <Adlai> symbulos, /etc/init.d/net.<interface> start
[04:51] <Adlai> symbulos, if you haven't changed /etc/conf.d/net, it'll automatically choose dhcpcd
[04:51] <Adlai> (I think...that's how it works on gentoo)
[04:51] <alexicon> is it net.interface or networking?
[04:52] <Adlai> net.interface
[04:52] <symbulos> Adlai no, I had to install the modules for my network by hand, because it is agere et131x, not yet in kernel
[04:52] <alexicon> thats for gentoo
[04:52] <alexicon> i think ubuntu uses networking
[04:52] <Adlai> so /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
[04:52] <Adlai> oh really
[04:52] <Adlai> alright then, I'll shut up
[04:52] <Adlai> symbulos, do you have dhcpcd installed?
[04:53] <symbulos> Adlai, no I am looking for it now
[04:53] <Adlai> that's a good first step
[04:54] <alexicon> everything should be there already tho right. everything to connect to dhcp anyway
[04:54] <Adlai> you should be able to run "dhcpcd <interface>" after that and have it work
[04:54] <RoKFiT> what package do i need to install for gstreamer?
[04:54] <alexicon> maybe not serving..
[04:54] <alexicon> gstreamer :P
[04:54] <alexicon> heh
[04:54] <alexicon> gstreamer-0.8 or whatever
[04:54] <RoKFiT> k
[04:56] <RoKFiT> there are like 10 packages
[04:56] <RoKFiT> no 20
[04:57] <symbulos> Adlai do I have to shut down the eth0 interface before proceeding?
[04:57] <Adlai> ?
[04:57] <malik__> gstreamer0.10 for edgy
[04:58] <Adlai> bring down using ifconfig or stop the initscript
[04:58] <symbulos> Adlai, where is the dhcpcd package, cannot find it
[04:59] <Adlai> dunno on kubuntu
[04:59] <Adlai> try apt-cache search dhcp
[04:59] <alexicon> symbulos: no just restart the interface, it should notice the updated configuration
[04:59] <symbulos> alexicon, what updated interface?
[04:59] <alexicon> well if you change the network configuration then do the /etc/init.d/networking restart it should do the dhcp
[05:00] <alexicon> it should do dhcp by default anyway tho
[05:00] <alexicon> going to reboot my install brb!
[05:00] <sponix> anyone else have issues with kspread crashing when you save ?
[05:02] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, dhcpd3
[05:03] <alexicon> ok
[05:04] <symbulos> murchadh_bhaba there is no dhcpcd in dhcpd3
[05:04] <towync> hello world
[05:04] <vado> Re
[05:04] <towync> why doesn't beryl work on my comp =((((
[05:04] <towync> *sniff sniff* lol
[05:07] <alexicon> anyone have trouble enabling nvidia drivers?
[05:07] <towync> what does that mean
[05:07] <symbulos> situation has improved ethernet is up and running but I keep getting no route to host
[05:07] <cpk1> blah the edgy live cd has the same problem for me that the dapper one did but worse
[05:07] <alexicon> symbulos: can you connect to external sites?
[05:08] <alexicon> check your /etc/resolve.conf
[05:08] <symbulos> alexicon no. also i do not have any text browser because on the cd there is none, so I can't check
[05:08] <cpk1> i get garbely gook as output on my monitor but on the edgy cd starting in safe mode doesnt fix it =\
[05:08] <towync> kjh
[05:08] <Adlai> towync, what graphics card?
[05:08] <alexicon> umm
[05:08] <alexicon> theres gotta be vim
[05:08] <towync> me?
[05:08] <towync> i use nvidia 5900
[05:08] <towync> fx
[05:08] <Adlai> dunno then, sorry
[05:09] <Adlai> I only have ati experience
[05:09] <Adlai> still bitter, too
[05:09] <alexicon> whats up towync
[05:09] <alexicon> nvidia++ ;D
[05:09] <wincide> hi all, do someone knows the name of a kde desktop recorder to make videotutorials ???
[05:09] <towync> what's up alexicon =)
[05:09] <towync> cool thx adlai
[05:09] <Dr_willis> wincide,  ive heard of some that record vnc sessions. none 'kde specific'
[05:09] <alexicon> whats up with your nvidia towync
[05:09] <towync> nothing
[05:09] <alexicon> oh ok
[05:09] <alexicon> heh
[05:09] <towync> i don't know
[05:10] <towync> i think Adlai wanted to help me with beryl
[05:10] <towync> so Adlai was asking earlier
[05:10] <Adlai> class nvidia { 5.times {@awesomeness++}}
[05:10] <towync> what does that mean =)
[05:10] <Adlai> yeah, his glx effects are messed
[05:10] <towync> for me, it always says xgl not found
[05:10] <towync> which is confusing cuz i thought edgy comes with aiglx
[05:11] <Adlai> towync, try #ubuntu-xgl
[05:11] <alexicon> you got the glx driver installed properly??
[05:11] <towync> isn't that supposed to be better already
[05:11] <towync> i know that channel
[05:11] <towync> everyone tells me to go there
[05:11] <towync> =)
[05:11] <Adlai> and?
[05:11] <towync> and i'm still asking lol
[05:11] <towync> everytime i start beryl it says
[05:11] <alexicon> "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". that ALWAYS fails for me
[05:11] <towync> xgl not found, nvidia ok, starting without xgtl
[05:11] <towync> then freeze =)
[05:12] <alexicon> yeah towync
[05:12] <alexicon> i cant get the nvidia-glx working consistantly on kubuntu
[05:12] <towync> it's a black background too when it freezes
[05:12] <towync> i can still move mouse, but then nothing responds to mouse
[05:12] <towync> ic
[05:12] <towync> is it better in ubuntu?
[05:12] <towync> i'm thinking of reinstalling everything =)
[05:12] <alexicon> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[05:12] <alexicon> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[05:12] <alexicon> but ive got nvidia-kernel-common
[05:12] <gnomefreak> whats the key combo for screenshot in kde?
[05:12] <towync> cuz the first time i installed, which was like 2 weeks ago, i didn't know anything about linux
[05:13] <alexicon> i dont think its any different in ubuntu :(
[05:13] <alexicon> if it is let me know
[05:13] <Adlai> xgl is old though, use either aiglx or the native nvidia glx effects (that I think exist)
[05:13] <towync> i only switched cuz my windows crashed and i don't have cd anymore
[05:13] <alexicon> gnomefreak: printscr :P
[05:13] <gnomefreak> alexicon: tried
[05:13] <towync> yeah aiglx comes with edgy right
[05:13] <alexicon> im tryin nvidia-glx
[05:13] <alexicon> but no joy
[05:13] <gnomefreak> alexicon: tried alt+printscreen ctrl+prsc. and so on
[05:13] <alexicon> if i manually change the driver to nvidia it freaks out
[05:13] <coreymon77> okay
[05:14] <coreymon77> today at lunch im gonna try to do that qparted thing on my friends laptop that i was talking about lastnight
[05:14] <towync> is it a good idea to download feisty herd1 now?
[05:14] <towync> what's qparted?
[05:14] <alexicon> partitioning tool
[05:14] <coreymon77> towync: i usuallly dont do that until rcs
[05:14] <alexicon> qtparted
[05:14] <towync> cool
[05:14] <binary2k2> towync: not unless you're a developer or a bug fixer
[05:14] <towync> coreymon77 ic =)
[05:14] <towync> cool
[05:15] <towync> how do people become developers
[05:15] <coreymon77> a partitioning tool that apparently can risize ntfs partitions without damaging them
[05:15] <binary2k2> learn C++
[05:15] <coreymon77> is this correct
[05:15] <towync> no i meant assuming u already can program, how do u become developers
[05:15] <coreymon77> will it be able to (when running off of the dapper livecd) resize my friends ntfs partition without damaging the data on it?
[05:15] <coreymon77> is qparted able to do that?
[05:16] <alexicon> you start developing then give the project your updates :P
[05:16] <alexicon> if what you write is good it will get used
[05:16] <coreymon77> can i get an answer quickly, i have to go very soon
[05:16] <alexicon> helps to join channels
[05:16] <coreymon77> can qparted do that
[05:16] <alexicon> yeah coreymon77
[05:16] <coreymon77> will it be able to (when running off of the dapper livecd) resize my friends ntfs partition without damaging the data on it?
[05:16] <coreymon77> okay
[05:16] <coreymon77> food
[05:16] <alexicon> it will repartition it safe
[05:16] <coreymon77> good*
[05:16] <towync> but who decides what is good and what gets put in the distribution
[05:16] <Adlai> coreymon77, you can do it with norton partition magic
[05:16] <kilrae_> yes, but this is not legal advice
[05:16] <gnomefreak> alexicon: ok is there a way to do it with menu open? i found out prtscr. works just not with menu open
[05:16] <Adlai> dunno about qtparted
[05:16] <coreymon77> w/e
[05:16] <coreymon77> ive been told qparted does it
[05:16] <Adlai> kilrae_, yes it is, if he buys it
[05:16] <coreymon77> and its free
[05:17] <alexicon> towync: if theres something you want to work on, start doing it. join the irc channel talk to the other developers
[05:17] <coreymon77> anyways
[05:17] <coreymon77> thanks
[05:17] <alexicon> its up to the maintainers to decide if they want to use your changes
[05:17] <coreymon77> gtg
[05:17] <kilrae_> buys what, kubuntu or the advice?
[05:17] <towync> alexicon do people just vote on what gets put in a distribution?
[05:17] <alexicon> no
[05:17] <Adlai> partition magic; thought you were talking to me
[05:17] <towync> alexicon o, who decides then
[05:17] <alexicon> it depends on the project
[05:17] <alexicon> what do you want to develop towync
[05:17] <alexicon> big projects have a big hierarchy
[05:18] <alexicon> small projects you can usually talk to the main developer and get them to add stuff you write if they like it
[05:18] <kilrae_> Adlai: i'm saying that resizing partitions sometimes fails, in which case, nobody here it legally responsible
[05:18] <alexicon> or fork it for your own project
[05:18] <alexicon> whatever
[05:18] <towync> alexicon i guess i'm wondering how linux companies work
[05:18] <alexicon> gpl ftw
[05:18] <gnomefreak> towync: file a bug on what you want to be put it.
[05:18] <alexicon> thats a complicated question towync
[05:18] <alexicon> and its different for every company
[05:18] <alexicon> "company"
[05:18] <towync> alexicon but how do they even function at all, they don't sell stuff right
[05:18] <alexicon> they sell support
[05:18] <gnomefreak> towync: there is a whole SP for it but i dont have the instructions on hand give me a minute i will see if i have them
[05:18] <alexicon> to big companies that use 100 of copies of their software
[05:19] <towync> alexicon there's a number i can dial in to tell them to fix my beryl? hehe
[05:19] <alexicon> most small projects dont make any money#
[05:19] <alexicon> towync: if you pay them im sure theyll fix it :P
[05:19] <towync> gnomefreak thx =)
[05:19] <alexicon> the point is its free so you can sort it out yourself
[05:19] <gnomefreak> towync: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureSpecifications
[05:19] <towync> gnomefreak thx =)
[05:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:19] <kilrae_> and i'm never upgrading or reinstalling again, i doubt I could do it twice
[05:19] <alexicon> lol kilrae_
[05:20] <kilrae_> i'm afraid to even restart my computer
[05:20] <alexicon> i used to be afraid of doing that in gentoo lol
[05:20] <alexicon> !nvidia
[05:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:20] <cpk1> umm is vi different in edgy?
[05:20] <alexicon> vi is different from vim
[05:20] <towync> !towync
[05:20] <alexicon> edgy uses vim 7
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about towync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <alexicon> but its pretty much the same
[05:21] <towync> i still am afraid of restarting my computer lol
[05:21] <kilrae_> i downloaded a bunch of videos, but video playback with beryl running isn't so great, so i need to restart in regular xorg, but i'm scared
[05:21] <cpk1> i see so whats insert then?
[05:21] <alexicon> OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:21] <cpk1> because i isnt working
[05:21] <alexicon> i can paste links directly in to the browser window in ff again :DDDDDDDDDD
[05:21] <alexicon> joy
[05:21] <alexicon> i is insert
[05:21] <alexicon> press esc then try i again
[05:22] <alexicon> i insert, a append
[05:22] <towync> sometimes i can hear harddrive shuts down, but somehow something, either graphics card or the fan still runs cuz i get a blank black screen
[05:22] <kilrae_> then give up and use nano :P
[05:22] <towync> !nano
[05:22] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[05:22] <towync> i knew that
[05:22] <towync> lol =)
[05:22] <kilrae_> or as i still call it: pico
[05:23] <kilrae_> someday they'll remove that link
[05:23] <towync> there should be like 1 and only 1, instead of so many choises
[05:23] <kilrae_> and i won't know how to text edit
[05:23] <towync> yeah there should be one and only one text editor
[05:23] <j03> !php
[05:23] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:23] <towync> so people don't have to relearn everything
[05:23] <towync> !LAmp
[05:24] <alexicon> garrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:24] <alexicon> stupid
[05:24] <kilrae_> towync: except for emacs and vi, every other text editor works logically and there is pretty much no relearning
[05:24] <alexicon> it doesnt recognise my graphics card
[05:24] <alexicon> but suse does straight away
[05:24] <cpk1> well does nano come with the live cd? i am trying to edit xorg so i can get a picture in X and vi is not behaving how I would expect it to
[05:24] <kilrae_> i'm sure nano comes with the live cd, it's used in most tutorials, if it doesn't just install it
[05:25] <towync> kilrae_ i hate emac i hate emac i hate emac, stupid thing inserts unseen characters everywhere and screws up semicolons, quotes, and other loads of crap that results in, disfunct programs that results in: bad grade =)
[05:25] <alexicon> lol
[05:25] <alexicon> i cant even figure out how to quit emacs and ive been using linux for 5 years
[05:25] <alexicon> its the most unintuitive program ever
[05:25] <towync> i'm proud to say i've been using linux for 5 days =)
[05:26] <cpk1> it does, time to see if i can get x to start with a picture i can use now
[05:26] <alexicon> well done towync ;D
[05:26] <nagyv> towync: we are proud of you too
[05:26] <kilrae_> i once sat down to learn emacs after i read some glowing review of it somewhere, after three hours i still couldn't actually write anything, so i gave up
[05:26] <alexicon> ^_^
[05:26] <towync> yay thx all =) hehe
[05:26] <alexicon> lol kilrae_
[05:27] <kilrae> you spend hours learning how to move the cursor
[05:27] <towync> anyone getting vista?
[05:27] <alexicon> LOL
[05:27] <alexicon> no.
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i am...
[05:27] <kilrae> *cough* bittorrent *cough*
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> NOT!
[05:27] <towync> yay so am i=)
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> !windows
[05:27] <alexicon> i dont have enough money to buy 2gb of ram
[05:27] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:27] <towync> lol
[05:27] <alexicon> hahaha
[05:27] <towync> i'm getting vista only cuz i'm getting new comp and it comes with it
[05:28] <towync> o u guys should all go to http://www.cyberpowerpc.com for new computers, they have so much great stuff
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> towync: don't pay the MS tax
[05:28] <towync> it's like newegg.com except limited to computer stuff
[05:28] <alexicon> build my own pcs
[05:28] <kilrae> my only computer running windows has no cdrom, so i couldn't install vista on it, and the lack of a cdrom is the only thing stopping me from installing linux
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> read the EULA, they have to give you money back if you don't use their softway
[05:28] <towync> as in u buy all separate parts and put them together alexicon?
[05:28] <towync> cuz that's what they do
[05:28] <alexicon> yeah towync
[05:28] <towync> i like cyberpowerpc so much, cheap stuff, great stuff =)
[05:28] <kilrae> that sounds expensive
[05:29] <nagyv> where it this under kde System->Preferences->Sessions, click the "Startup Programs" (this is the Gnome way, I would like to get to a similar page under KDE)
[05:29] <kilrae> nagyv: so would it :P
[05:29] <kilrae> i
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> nagyv: ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:29] <kilrae> so would i
[05:29] <kilrae> that's it
[05:29] <kilrae> well la di da mister admiral
[05:29] <cpk1> alright anyone think of any reasons why the edy live cd just gives me bars of bluish/purple when it tries to start X?
[05:30] <cpk1> edgy*
[05:30] <towync> is anyone using nvidia 8800 here?
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk1: driver?
[05:30] <towync> !nvidia
[05:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <goodthing> what could the reason why edgy does not want to boot my system with a second and third SATA disk? (IDLE at "Mounting root file system..."  "Waiting for root filesystem" )
[05:30] <towync> i think i'm getting a nvidia 7800gs next few weeks, they have agp!!! yay =)
[05:30] <alexicon> towync: i am using nvidia 7400
[05:30] <alexicon> and having an arse of a time with it >8[
[05:30] <cpk1> Admiral_Chicago: "nv"
[05:30] <towync> cool
[05:31] <cpk1> this is the live cd
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk1: hmm, that'sodd
[05:31] <towync> alexicon that means good right, what u said earlier
[05:31] <alexicon> going to try and gank my suse xorg.conf and use it
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i think i read something like that on LP
[05:31] <alexicon> no nvidia is being a pain in the arse towync
[05:31] <towync> alexicon lol ok
[05:31] <alexicon> D:
[05:32] <towync> alexicon i sort of like nvidia, more so now cuz they have the 7800 gs for agp
[05:32] <towync> and it's cheaper than ati counterpart =0
[05:32] <cpk1> this happened on the dapper live cd too but starting in safe mode fixed it, it doesnt however fix it in edgy
[05:32] <kilrae> wheee, upgrading is fun
[05:32] <goodthing> when i disconnect them, all is fine
[05:33] <towync> !beryl
[05:33] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:33] <alexicon> I LOVE NVIDIA
[05:33] <alexicon> id never use ati
[05:33] <alexicon> not with linux anyway
[05:33] <towync> what games do u play?
[05:33] <towync> and how is it with nvidia
[05:33] <towync> like i have a nvidia go 7400 on my laptop, but it doesn't feel that much bettern than my nvidia fx 5900
[05:34] <towync> cuz the 7400 go only has 4 pipelines, what the heck...
[05:34] <towync> how do u say that =)
[05:34] <towync> * towync slap free software around some more with a medium trout
[05:35] <alexicon> yeah towync thats what iev got
[05:35] <kilrae> how?  i typed it
[05:35] <towync> i typed it too =(
[05:35] <towync> and it doesn't come out hehe
[05:35] <towync> did u have a sony laptop alexicon?
[05:35] <fdoving> towync: you can use '/say what you want to say' i think..
[05:35] <towync> cuz i got mine from costco 1100
[05:35] <towync> hi
[05:35] <nagyv> under system settings->Monitor&Display I get the error: The Monitor&Display modul could not be loaded. Possible reasons: (1) there is a problem after upgrading from a previous kde version, (2) an old, third party modul messes up the system. How could I find out a more exact problem?
[05:35] <fdoving> towync: or /me something..
[05:35] <kilrae> ohhhh, /me
[05:35] <towync> thx =)
[05:36] <towync> oops
[05:36] <cpk1> going to try changing nv to vesa
[05:36] <towync> didn't mean to emote that
[05:36] <towync> me stands for emote right
[05:37] <kilrae> i thought it stood for 'me'
[05:37] <cpk1> hooray that did the trick
[05:37] <kilrae> you know: me does something or other
[05:37] <towync> o
[05:37] <towync> cool
[05:37] <towync> !me
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <towync> !/me
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <towync> just testing =)
[05:38] <towync> !ubotu
[05:38] <kilrae> !anything
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <towync> oo gotta run, good luck everyone, with whatever ur working on, lates all
[05:38] <towync> !bye
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <goodthing> anyone knows why adding disk is making edgy to stall at boot?
[05:39] <towync> i have a test tomorrow and i wanna cry lol
[05:39] <jamaur> hey everyone, does anybody know how to remove the kasbar?
[05:39] <towync> actually that's what i'm going to do now, piece all=)
[05:40] <kilrae> :O apt-get emailed me! i feel so special
[05:41] <cpk2> Admiral_Chicago: apparently safemode didnt force vesa
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ah...where did you get this?
[05:42] <cpk1> well in safe mode i was still able to switch to tty1 so i just edited xorg from there
[05:42] <cpk1> this explains why safe mode worked on the dapper live cd but not edgy live
[05:43] <kilrae> the xorg made by system control is kinda messy
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk1: check Laundpad,
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> might be a bug
[05:43] <cpk1> i read the very beginning of a lunchpad bug post which is what made me realize i was supposed to have vesa not nv so i think it is already documented
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> haha, figures
[05:47] <cpk1> backing up /etc and then i think i will be ready to wipe my dapper install and get edgy
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !lts
[05:55] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:55] <cpk1> by coincedence i have an unused partition that is 256mB this is plenty of room for /boot right?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> 50mb is plen ty for /boot
[05:56] <eMaX> anyone here uses cross over office? my screen goes blank whenever I open a windows application. when I switch back to console and back, everything is ok
[05:56] <Dr_willis> use of /boot - isent really needed these days
[05:56] <cpk1> what else am I going to use that partition for =P
[05:57] <Dr_willis> swap
[05:57] <casev01> hi, im going tu upgrade the linux-image and i have installed vmware, i will need to reinstall it?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:57] <cpk1> i have a 2gig swap already
[05:57] <Dr_willis> more swap
[05:57] <cpk1> haha
[05:57] <Dr_willis> swap swap..
[05:57] <Dr_willis> enctypted porn drive
[05:57] <kilrae> grrrr
[05:58] <kilrae> it would seem that running xgl at high resolutions is harder on the computer
[05:59] <eMaX> how can I check the color depth in ubuntu
[06:01] <nagyv> beryl is running! :)
[06:01] <kilrae> huzzah!
[06:01] <RoKFiT> so there isn't a fix for audio popping?
[06:01] <l3mr> whenever i try to go to console mode in kdm, i just get a black screen... help!
[06:02] <RoKFiT> then is there any way i can get OSS working?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !oss
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:04] <Dr_willis> l3mr,  so from X, if ya try alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 - you also have the same issue?
[06:06] <alfred> Anybody know what is included on the DVD for Kubuntu Edgy 6.10?
[06:06] <kilrae> nagyv: does your super key work?
[06:07] <l3mr> Dr_willis: yes. it seems it cannot go back to the console mode once X was initialised.
[06:07] <cpk1> alfred: its the livecd +++++packages
[06:07] <nagyv> kilrae: I am just trying out the keys, but I reset the winkey as a win key should work. So it's not "super", but simply super. :)
[06:07] <nagyv> and it works as I expect
[06:07] <nagyv> it opens the k-menu
[06:07] <kilrae> mine doesn't open the kmenu :P
[06:08] <kilrae> :(
[06:08] <alfred> I tried the live CD and it was a bit bare. As an example: Does it include Samba, Squid etc?
[06:08] <nagyv> kilrae: would you like to get my setup?
[06:09] <eMaX> re
[06:09] <eMaX> anyone here has wine running under kubuntu?
[06:09] <kilrae> well, iirc it worked on the default, but after i deleted the original kmenu and made a new one up top it stopped working
[06:09] <Dr_willis> l3mr, theres 2 possibilities.. one is the 'framebuffer' support is messing you up. That can be disabled by the 'nofb' option to the kernel/grub options.. OR its possible that the X drivers are messing things up.
[06:09] <kilrae> so i'm guessing it has to know which kmenu to open
[06:09] <Dr_willis> l3mr,  you could boot, and not start kdm (thus booting straight to the console)  and IF it works then.. well that points to an X Driver issue. If booting straight to the console  dont work - that imples a framebuffer issue.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> eMaX,  for some odd reason wine dont run stuff for me that it used to .. any more.. not sure what the deal is.
[06:10] <eMaX> well for me the display goes black when I start any windoze app, switching back and forth via a text console brings back the image
[06:10] <cpk1> hrmm wine has bee great for me lately
[06:11] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  the few apps i run with it. dont even start - wine just crashes..
[06:11] <cpk1> =\
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Yep - a bit annoying.
[06:11] <cpk1> although I almost always get my roomate to install the game on his windows and then just copy the whole directory over
[06:12] <cpk1> thats the most headache free way of getting things to work
[06:12] <alfred> Can anybody point me to a link (maybe on Kubuntu's Website, that gives me some idea of what is included on the DVD? It just talks about the CD. That's for Edgy 6.10
[06:12] <Dr_willis> DVD is the live cd + the alt install cd - I thought.
[06:12] <cpk1> i thought it was also +++packages
[06:12] <l3mr> Dr_willis: framebuffer is disabled, always was.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Of course any packages they include would proberly be out of date and need updated anyway. :)
[06:12] <l3mr> Dr_willis: i get the same problem with the proprietary nvidia driver as with the nv
[06:13] <Dr_willis> l3mr,  bummer.. try disabling KDM, and using 'startx' see if exiting out of X then resets them back to normal?
[06:13] <binary2k2> alfred: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.manifest
[06:13] <cpk1> oh btw in edgy how do you get it to show folders like /etc and stuff but not show .somefolder folders?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[06:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:14] <binary2k2> cpk1: edit /.hidden
[06:14] <alfred> Updating isn't an issue, guessing that Kubuntu has some kind of update applet?
[06:14] <cpk1> cool thanks
[06:14] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  or are you refering to .whatever type directories?
[06:15] <cpk1> huh?
[06:15] <nceterval> Hello, I'm having trouble upgrading from Dapper to Edgy using apt.  I changed my sources to the new repository, but the dist-upgrade failed.  I tried apt-get -f install and get the following error: http://pastebin.ca/280096    What can I do to fix this and complete the upgrade?
[06:15] <binary2k2> Dr_willis: in edgy, by default only /home and /media is shown
[06:15] <Dr_willis> binary2k2,  thats differnt then what he sort of asked however   :) he wasent clear
[06:16] <cpk1> are there any other default minor annoyances in edgy?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> life is full of annoyances.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:16] <cpk1> unfortantely, yes
[06:17] <RealisticDragon> and most of them are female and live with me, grrr
[06:17] <cpk1> hahaha
[06:17] <cpk1> no kidding
[06:17] <RealisticDragon> fix this, fix that, do this, no playing with that stupid computer
[06:18] <cpk1> alright install is done, time to reboot and pray =D
[06:18] <fnord__> whats a good ys  ratio on ktorrent?it says inf whats that mean?
[06:18] <fnord__> share ratio*
[06:18] <nceterval> Any ideas about my upgrade problem?
[06:18] <RealisticDragon> g'lick
[06:18] <RealisticDragon> fnord__: inf = upload as much as your connection allows
[06:19] <fnord__> i have it set to unlimeted
[06:19] <fnord__> cool
[06:19] <binary2k2> fnord__: you want at least a ratio of 1.00, but the higher the better
[06:19] <alfred> Which Bootloader does Kubuntu use?
[06:19] <binary2k2> GRUB
[06:19] <alfred> Does it recognise other Distro
[06:20] <Dr_willis> some times.. :)
[06:20] <fnord__> should usrally
[06:20] <Dr_willis> but with grub - its best to learn how to configure grub..
[06:20] <fnord__> which distro?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> Its always amusing when different disrtos all try to take over the boot loader.
[06:20] <alfred> Thanks for the warning, that's what Mandriva did, took me a while to get back onto the other Distro as well
[06:21] <l3mr> Dr_willis: kdm always starts by default :/
[06:21] <l3mr> Dr_willis: and i don't see any way to get into the console to even try that
[06:21] <Dr_willis> l3mr,  disable the kdm service
[06:22] <alfred> Does Kubuntu's Grub give you access to edit the paritions during boot?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> edit the partitions?
[06:23] <binary2k2> alfred: depends what you mean by "edit the partitions"
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Grub us Grub.. kubuntus use of grub is the same as most all the otehr disrtos Grub features.
[06:24] <alfred> Set where your other Distro is located ie Kernal etc
[06:24] <fnord__> whats up with  kde wallet?it never stores my passwords?
[06:24] <binary2k2> alfred: yes, it lets you do that
[06:24] <alfred> good :-)
[06:24] <cpk1> it works hooray!
[06:24] <Dr_willis> grub reads the menu.lst normally.. you can edit things from the grub boot menu.. but thats not a perment change
[06:25] <binary2k2> you can always use the grub command line
[06:25] <cpk1> !nvidia
[06:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <l3mr> Dr_willis: thanks
[06:25] <alfred> Thanks willis. As long as I can edit the menu, I can set it permanent then in Kubuntu..somehwere I guess
[06:26] <alfred> Anybody remember where kmail locates the mail?..it's been a while
[06:27] <fdoving> alfred: ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail i guess.
[06:28] <alfred> I check it out :-)..need to back up my mail before I blow away SuSE 10.1
[06:31] <alfred> fdoving..spot on thanks :-)
[06:34] <BluesKaj> ok ,gents one more small project to go on the windows network...need wifey's windows pc to see the Kubuntu box ..any suggestions ?
[06:34] <alfred> What's better? download DVD or install live CD and then somehow build it up?
[06:35] <TheGateKeeper> ok guys what does boot mean where I have marked it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37206/
[06:35] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: install samba
[06:35] <BluesKaj> I have samba installed , binary2k2
[06:35] <binary2k2> TheGateKeeper: it meens boot
[06:36] <BluesKaj> I can see and access wifes pc but not vice versa
[06:36] <binary2k2> TheGateKeeper: like saying to GRUB "go and boot that"
[06:36] <cpk1> alfred: what do you mean "somehow build it up?"
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Halp
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Amarok went nuts
[06:36] <BluesKaj> hers is the windows box
[06:36] <TheGateKeeper> hmmm first time I have seen that thanx :-)
[06:36] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: post your smb.conf
[06:36] <BluesKaj> ok
[06:37] <TheGateKeeper> binary2k2: I thought it just did it anyway
[06:37] <alfred> Well, i will need all sorts of stuff..Firfox, Samba (client/Server), NFS.....
[06:37] <fnord__> could i get some help with a glx problem?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318918
[06:38] <BluesKaj> smb.conf is blank
[06:38] <alfred> I can download the DVD via bittorrent or just install the live CD which seems to be a bit bare
[06:38] <fnord__> DaSkreech:  you have to state a problem
[06:38] <fnord__> not just that it went nuts
[06:38] <fnord__> whats wrong with it?
[06:38] <BluesKaj> actually I'm usung the komba browser , binary2k2
[06:38] <Dr_willis> alfred,  or get the alternative instgall cd.
[06:38] <cpk1> alfred: its not hard to install them after you install
[06:38] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: you can set samba up in system settings
[06:39] <Dr_willis> Its Trivial to install stuff later.
[06:39] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: system settings -> Sharing (in edgy)
[06:39] <alfred> I have never used anything but rpm before, so this will be new to me
[06:39] <Dr_willis> alfred,  time to do some reading while that stuff downloads.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> !apt
[06:39] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:39] <TheGateKeeper> any devs in here?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> fnord__: Well near as I can tell it opened by itself and thhen popped up 120 dialog boxes telling me I can't play mp3's on an empty playlist
[06:40] <fnord__> id shut them all down and try again
[06:40] <DaSkreech> While I'm at it what do I need to install to get mp3 support on the media player in Konqueror?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> fnord__: I wasn't trying it opened by itself :) but I did that already
[06:41] <fnord__> if it dosent work then restart and then try
[06:41] <fnord__> oh
[06:41] <DaSkreech> fnord__: do you knowwhat I need to install to get mp3 on the media player in konqueror?
[06:41] <fnord__> DaSkreech: !automatix
[06:41] <fnord__> !automatix | DaSkreech
[06:41] <ubotu> DaSkreech: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:42] <fnord__> automatix
[06:42] <DaSkreech> I know automatix I don't like it and I don't use it i just want to know the name of the package :)
[06:42] <fnord__> not sure sorry
[06:42] <Dr_willis> I know that the KUBUNTU faq - mentions several of the packages you need to install for MP3 features to work with several programs.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:42] <ionut> help
[06:42] <fnord__> why dont you like it?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> I always go there and install the ones they suggest.
[06:42] <eMaX_> what is in ubuntu the easiest way to edit rc*.d?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> automatix - has been known to really screw stuff up.
[06:43] <binary2k2> all I needed to play mp3 is libxine-extracodecs
[06:43] <Dr_willis> eMaX_,  edit in what way? theres various SysV tools.
[06:43] <ionut> how can i install hp laserjer 1000 printer drivers?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> fnord__: Me?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> theres a 'system services->runlevel editor' tool   KDE control center module
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !printer
[06:43] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:43] <fnord__> search getting things working media ubuntu forums google
[06:43] <fnord__> DaSkreech: yup
[06:44] <ionut> thnq
[06:44] <DaSkreech> fnord__: Can't I be unreasonably biased? :)
[06:44] <fnord__> ive never d a problem with it,but i know others have
[06:44] <eMaX_> ok. the ksysv shows everything in such small windows I need a magnifying glass
[06:44] <fnord__> sure
[06:44] <alfred> I will read up on Apt :-) I have downloaded and burned the standard CD for Edgy 6.10. Would the laternative be a better choice for building the system once the base is installed?
[06:46] <Dr_willis> alfred,  once its isntalled - it really dosent matter
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: It's libakode-mpeg
[06:47] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  somthing i prberly installed ages ago.. heh .
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Yeah :-)
[06:47] <Dr_willis> well off to get some lunch.. byeee
[06:47] <DaSkreech> me too
[06:48] <binary2k2> in edgy, doesn't amarok just go and download mp3 support for you when you try and play an mp3?
[06:48] <alfred> I know I ask a lot of questions, but I just want to get some ideas before doing the plunge :-) Is there a application that informs you of updates espatially security in Kubuntu?
[06:49] <fnord__> could i get some help with i a glx problem not sure whats wrong but im sure someone i heres smart enuf to help?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318918
[06:49] <binary2k2> alfred: yeah, you'll get a little icon in the system tray when there are updates avaliable
[06:49] <eMaX_> dr_willis do you know any /usable/ sysv util? ksysv isn't really as its screen areas are too small
[06:50] <alfred> thanks binary :-)
[06:50] <alfred> glx...ouch...what is the problem?
[06:51] <[GuS] > hi
[06:51] <TheGateKeeper> FOR ANY DEVS THAT MIGHT BE IN HERE, please can you make a backup of menu.st rather than just nuking it, when you do updates
[06:51] <fnord__> not reallt sure
[06:51] <eMaX_> oh found sysv-rc-conf. cool enough for me
[06:52] <fnord__> fnord@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo
[06:52] <fnord__>  name of display: :0.0
[06:52] <fnord__> X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[06:52] <fnord__>  Major opcode of failed request: 142 (GLX)
[06:52] <alfred> well, describe what going on. What does glxgears give you?
[06:52] <eMaX_> what in ubuntu is the "S" runlevel?
[06:52] <fnord__> Minor opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[06:52] <fnord__>  Serial number of failed request: 16
[06:52] <fnord__> brb
[06:53] <fnord__> alfred: they move,should they dfr). something else?
[06:54] <fnord__> whats that thisisnotabenchmark thing?
[06:54] <fnord__> should they do*
[06:54] <alfred> they will give you different readings, but what is your average ftp throughput?
[06:54] <binary2k2> eMaX_: the S runlevel is the single user one, when you boot in to rescue mode
[06:55] <eMaX_> tnx
[06:55] <fnord__> alfred: they move slowly
[06:56] <fnord__> py
[06:56] <fnord__> kinda jumpy
[06:56] <alfred> the wheels always move slowly..what's the through put that the shell tells you?
[06:57] <alfred> open up console and type: glxgears..the console will then tell you the ftp throughput
[06:57] <fnord__> theough put? like waht happens from glxinfo?
[06:57] <fnord__> ok
[06:58] <fnord__> fnord@ubuntu:~$ glxgears
[06:58] <fnord__> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
[06:58] <fnord__> second line came up when i closed the gears
[06:58] <binary2k2> fnord__: what do you get when you do "echo $DISPLAY" ?
[06:59] <matuso> hi
[06:59] <DaSkreech> fnord__: Most Video card stuff with GL has experts in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:59] <fnord__> nothing
[06:59] <fnord__> nothing comes up justa blank line
[07:00] <alfred> what card do you have?
[07:00] <fnord__> binary2k2: should i try ubuntu-xgl?
[07:00] <binary2k2> fnord__: is X running?
[07:00] <matuso> i want to add a personal script path to KDE apps path to run scripts directly using "run command" in KDE menu... how i can do that ?
[07:00] <fnord__> whats that pcmia comand?
[07:00] <fnord__> yup
[07:00] <fnord__> to list my hardware?
[07:01] <binary2k2> fnord__: are you in konsole?
[07:01] <fnord__> x has to be running for my gui to work right?
[07:01] <fnord__> yea konsole
[07:01] <alfred> fnord..yes
[07:02] <fnord__> then its running
[07:02] <binary2k2> are you running an XGL session?
[07:02] <fnord__> whats the command to list pcmia hardware?
[07:02] <fnord__> um i dont know
[07:02] <binary2k2> because I remember on the XGL guide it starts the X server on :1.0
[07:02] <matuso> is possible to run XGL with a SiS integrated video card ?
[07:02] <swanfl> can someone help me with my logitech quickcam in edgy using the 2.6.19 kernel?
[07:02] <fnord__> mines 0:0
[07:03] <fnord__> which i was told isint right
[07:03] <binary2k2> type this: DISPLAY=:1.0
[07:03] <eMaX_> why in a runlevel editor I see for a given service on a given runlevel only a start or a stop link not both (both may be there for one runlevel)
[07:03] <binary2k2> then run glxgeers again
[07:03] <alfred> it should be 0.0 but I don't think that SIS cards are supported
[07:04] <alfred> My son's PC has SIS and it's no good for it'
[07:04] <fnord__> fnord@ubuntu:~$ DISPLAY=:1.0
[07:04] <alfred> Can you watch DVD's on your PC?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: What's menu.st do?
[07:04] <fnord__> fnord@ubuntu:~$ glxgears
[07:04] <fnord__> Error: couldn't open display :1.0
[07:04] <matuso> yes, i heard that SiS integrated video cards has a poor performance
[07:04] <swanfl> talking to me alfred ?
[07:05] <alfred> yep
[07:05] <fnord__> how do i find out what video card im running?
[07:05] <swanfl> yes I acn view dvd's
[07:05] <swanfl> can
[07:05] <binary2k2> fnord__: then you should ask on #ubuntu-xgl see if they can help
[07:05] <binary2k2> fnord__: pcmcia ot pci ?
[07:05] <fnord__> ok
[07:05] <matuso> fnord_ try to run from konsole lspci
[07:05] <fnord__> um its a laptop
[07:05] <fnord__> pci
[07:05] <fnord__> i think
[07:06] <binary2k2> fnord__: use the command: lspcmcia
[07:06] <binary2k2> is it's a laptop it may be pcmcia
[07:06] <fnord__> thats not the one
[07:06] <dettoaltrimenti> how do you check your 'score' in ktorrent?
[07:07] <fnord__> it gave me info but not what i was looking for
[07:08] <binary2k2> fnord__: check with lspci
[07:08] <voicu> what's the package needed for creating python modules? i.e. that includes the Python.h header
[07:08] <voicu> i installed python-dev, what else?
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !webcam | swanfl
[07:08] <ubotu> swanfl: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:09] <voicu> !python
[07:09] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[07:09] <voicu> !python-dev
[07:09] <ubotu> python-dev: Header files and a static library for Python (default). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB
[07:09] <soulrider> can someone remember the name of that firefox fork? the one that was all GPL
[07:09] <DaSkreech> dettoaltrimenti: HIgh Scores?
[07:09] <RealisticDragon> iceweasel
[07:10] <RealisticDragon> its a debian fork
[07:10] <dettoaltrimenti> DaSkreech heh no- it's a score based on how much you've uploaded and downloaded
[07:10] <RealisticDragon> and basically its only the graphics that are a problem I believe :) all the code is fine
[07:10] <DaSkreech> There is a share ratio
[07:10] <dettoaltrimenti> also, how can I disable the pointer on my laptop?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> RealisticDragon: Well technically the issue was about code
[07:11] <soulrider> thanks RealisticDragon
[07:11] <dettoaltrimenti> ok, share ratio
[07:11] <fnord__> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[07:11] <DaSkreech> +s
[07:11] <RealisticDragon> because they couldnt compile a new version and call it firefox under the trademark license IIRC DaSkreech, they didnt have to replace any code, just change the name :)
[07:12] <RealisticDragon> and the graphics
[07:12] <swanfl> DaSkreech, my camera requires qc-usb and when I tried to compile it, against a kernel that I compiled and have been running for some time now it complains about not finding linux/config.h
[07:12] <DaSkreech> RealisticDragon: Yeah but the issue was because teh Mozilla folks didn't think that code deian was adding was up to the standards they hold and was hurting the name firefox
[07:13] <DaSkreech> swanfl: do you have a linux/config.h?
[07:13] <swanfl> DaSkreech, where would I find that?
[07:15] <mefisto__> how can I create a link to a website I have open in firefox? The drag-drop method doesn't seem to work
[07:16] <DaSkreech> swanfl: I would assume in the src difrectory
[07:16] <fnord__> not sure,how do i tell?
[07:17] <fnord__> im kind new
[07:17] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: Where do you wantto create teh link?
[07:18] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: in a directory, or the desktop. Anywhere, really. I want a file that is a link to a webpage
[07:20] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:20] <mefisto__> if I drag/drop, it asks for a filename, and if I enter one, it just creates a textfile with the url as contents
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Um
[07:22] <DaSkreech> I guess create a link to URL?
[07:22] <Alter-Ego> my adept updater is stuck
[07:22] <Alter-Ego> how do i get it unstuck
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Define stuck
[07:23] <Alter-Ego> dpkg configure -a or something i remember does it
[07:23] <Alter-Ego> when i try to use it, it says another instance is running
[07:24] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: so there's no easy way to do it. I have to create it manually?
[07:25] <AxL> Hi ! I d like to configure my proset 2200 wifi card for my laptop. Is this possible ? Is there any driver ?
[07:26] <RealisticDragon> there may be
[07:26] <RealisticDragon> it depends what chipset it has, let me look it up for you
[07:26] <AxL> RealisticDragon : thanks :)
[07:27] <mefisto__> Alter-Ego: do you have adept or synaptic open?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: Doesn't look so. My bet is it works fine in Gnome
[07:28] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: konqueror doesn't seem to be able to do it either. how inconvenient
[07:28] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: It makes a text file?
[07:29] <RealisticDragon> AxL: it should work with the ipw2200 driver
[07:29] <mefisto__> I take that back. konqueror does create a url link with drag/drop
[07:29] <dimanish> clear
[07:29] <RealisticDragon> it may have already been autodetected: if you open up a console and type in iwconfig you might see it (either eth1 or wlan0)
[07:29] <AxL> RealisticDragon: ok thanks ... I can install it from the reposiyory ? Right ?
[07:29] <cpk1> !java
[07:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:30] <RealisticDragon> AxL: the driver should have been installed as part of the base kubuntu install i think :)
[07:31] <RealisticDragon> AxL: you can check (again from the command line) with 'sudo modprobe -r ipw2200 && sudo modprobe ipw2200' then run dmesg and see what the last couple of lines say
[07:31] <sdlnxgk> Good Morning / Afternoon Everyone !!!
[07:32] <RealisticDragon> AxL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75612&page=3 might be interesting for you
[07:33] <AxL> RealisticDragon: ok thanks for the command line : it seems to be detected :)
[07:34] <RealisticDragon> great!
[07:34] <RealisticDragon> ok, if you load knetworkmanager you can use that to configure your wireless network
[07:34] <RealisticDragon> you might need to install that with adept
[07:34] <AxL> Now I got to configure it ... I activated it with DHCP for IP adress ... but it doesn't seem to work :\
[07:35] <RealisticDragon> does your wireless network use encryption?
[07:35] <ubuntu_> have anyone use alc883
[07:35] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:36] <AxL> RealisticDragon : yes
[07:36] <RealisticDragon> is it WEP or WPA?
[07:36] <AxL> RealisticDragon WPA PSK
[07:37] <RealisticDragon> hmm you might need to poke one of these nice folk since i dont know how well knetworkmanager does with wpa
[07:37] <RealisticDragon> couple of things you could try
[07:38] <RealisticDragon> one is to quit knetworkmanager and install nm-applet (the gnome version, also works in KDE) and see if that works for you, the other is to try it by hand
[07:38] <RealisticDragon> there is a thread on the forums about your wireless card and WPA
[07:39] <RealisticDragon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834&highlight=ipw2200
[07:39] <RealisticDragon> !wpa
[07:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:40] <AxL> RealisticDragon : ok thanks ... gonna read :)
[07:40] <RealisticDragon> you can ignore anything about ndiswrapper or drivers, you card is already working fine :)
[07:41] <RealisticDragon> the thread says that network-manager works fine with WPA for your card :)
[07:42] <RealisticDragon> (aka nm-applet)
[07:44] <AxL> RealisticDragon : network manager ... Mhhh .. I m french and I wonder the name for this ... Need to find a screenshot for it ...
[07:45] <RealisticDragon> ah, life made easy ;) you can ask in ubuntu-fr as it's the default network widget for ubuntu
[07:45] <AxL> RealisticDragon: well yes .. but I ve just thought : command should be the same ...
[07:46] <AxL> Shiuldn't it be ?
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind, how's you doing?
[07:46] <RealisticDragon> im not sure, are all packages given grench names?
[07:47] <RealisticDragon> all the mexican and dutch guys I know use english language linux because its easier (and still supports creating docs in spanish/dutch fine)
[07:47] <goodthing> if the system does not boot with a second sata hard disk, can i just put the sa
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> lol
[07:47] <goodthing> oops
[07:47] <goodthing> if the system does not boot with a second sata hard disk, can i just put the data cable in when it is bootted?
[07:48] <AxL> I need to fine the command line to launch network-manager .... but I have another config tool like "wireless network"
[07:48] <RealisticDragon> the command line is nm-applet
[07:48] <AxL> I don't know if this could help ...
[07:48] <RealisticDragon> it may not be installed by default on kubuntu
[07:49] <AxL> RealisticDragon yes it is not :)
[07:49] <goodthing> can anyone help me adding two disks? been bussy for a day already and nothing seems to work
[07:49] <AxL> RealisticDragon : you said before I need nm-applet to config my card, right ?
[07:50] <RealisticDragon> it should work with your card fine :) although im surprised knetworkmanager doesnt (although i havent used it)
[07:50] <RealisticDragon> otherwise you an configure your card from the command line
[07:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there any known bug where a LAN connection works for about 5 minutes, then you have to restart your computer to get it to work again?
[07:53] <goodthing> i am starting to believe that dapper and edgy do not like disk when one of them is using the perpendicular technologie
[07:53] <goodthing> could that be it?
[07:54] <mishelPlatin> how can I know in which partition of my hard disk is installed the GRUB?
[07:55] <soulrider> mishelPlatin: its probably on the MBR
[07:55] <eilker> my ip is 169.254.x.x , what is the problem ? any idea ? dhcp problem....
[07:56] <soulrider> eilker: you mean your internet ip or hwat? =/
[07:56] <soulrider> do ifocnfig
[07:57] <goodthing> mishelPlatin: to add to that-> and i believe the MBR is always partitionless
[07:57] <eilker> soulrider: ifconfig shows it
[07:57] <soulrider> oh
[07:57] <soulrider> uhm,a dn what should your ip be?=/
[07:58] <mishelPlatin> but if I want to re_grub-install and I want to reinstall it on the same partition I have to specify /dev/hd0 or /dev/hda1 and I need to be sure where is actually installed
[07:58] <DaSkreech> mishelPlatin: It will probably be the active one
[07:58] <mindspin> how do I configure my charset (locales) for the basic system ? in system settings the language is set correctly but does not work
[07:58] <mishelPlatin> Da Screech: what do you mean?
[07:59] <mishelPlatin> DaSkreech: what do you mean?
[08:00] <arafat> !knetworkmanager-vpnc
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager-vpnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <chimaera> hello. anyone using zd1211 module (wifi)? i'm experiencing serious issues with this..
[08:01] <Ace2016> "In Dapper and previous releases, there has been no default scheduler set at install time, thus the system defaults to the native Linux scheduler."
[08:01] <Ace2016> has a default sheduler been enabled in edgy etch?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> mishelPlatin: the active partition is the one that the computer boots from
[08:02] <Ace2016> i just realised its Edgy Eft
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Ace2016: :-)
[08:03] <DaSkreech> You could use kontact it hasa  scheduler that is pertty good. It's just not turned on by default
[08:04] <Ace2016> kontact?
[08:04] <Ace2016> hasa?
[08:04] <Ace2016> I was just reading this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CFQbyDefault
[08:05] <mishelPlatin> DaSkreech: Ok, I think I know what do you mean. That partition is displayed on the screen on the boot up of the computer, isn't that?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Depends on where you mean :)
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Most disk utilities will tell you which one is ctive
[08:06] <DaSkreech>  they may call it the boot flag
[08:08] <BluesKaj> what's KDE grpoupware wizard and what does it do ?
[08:11] <Realistic_Dragon> mexican houses are too well built :(
[08:11] <dettoaltrimenti_> how do I see how much space I have available in "/"
[08:11] <Realistic_Dragon> im on the top floor but i cant get a signal on the roof, and i left all my big antennas at home :)
[08:11] <Realistic_Dragon> df -h dettoaltrimenti_
[08:12] <DaSkreech> dettoaltrimenti_: df -h
[08:12] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks
[08:13] <dettoaltrimenti_> if you pick all the programs that you want and put them into an installer to install linux onto a computer, is that called 'compiling'?
[08:15] <chimaera> dettoaltrimenti_: no, compiling is creating binaries out of source-code.
[08:15] <DaSkreech> dettoaltrimenti_: technically no
[08:15] <DaSkreech> In english it is a compliation in Techese it's not
[08:16] <Ace2016> well does the installer have the source in it? which it compiles depending on options like --without-oss then i guess it would be like compiling
[08:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok- I was reading about damn small linux, and they walk you through that whole process, but I woud like to do that with kubuntu- do you think there are any guides out there similar to the damn small linux one?
[08:16] <xenol> plz i can i erase history, temp and chace  in konqueror? i use delete chace buw nothing happens
[08:16] <DaSkreech> dettoaltrimenti_: There is a UBuntu remaster project ( I forget the name)
[08:17] <DaSkreech> Ace2016: Sounds like Gentoo
[08:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> DaSkreech: thanks- I found it, it's nUbuntu
[08:18] <DaSkreech> dettoaltrimenti_: Not sure that's it but if that makes you happy :)
[08:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah, you may be right there..
[08:21] <Ace2016> Anyone here using minit?  http://www.fefe.de/minit/
[08:23] <eilker> !xgl
[08:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:28] <ruben> Hi
[08:28] <ruben> I'm completely new to IRC. What is the point of this system??
[08:28] <NameNomad> what does "Decentralised tracking" mean?
[08:29] <ruben> Tracking which is not coming out of a certain point??
[08:29] <ruben> No idea
[08:29] <NameNomad> maybe
[08:29] <NameNomad> I just need to know because my firewall is blocking port 20792 UDP
[08:30] <NameNomad> and something is trying to get through there
[08:30] <NameNomad> constantly
[08:30] <NameNomad> and the ip, I think, is inside my network, I'm just not sure
[08:30] <ruben> Man, I'm SO new that I can't really help you
[08:30] <ruben> Sorry!
[08:31] <ruben> But if it's blocking the ip it should come from inside
[08:31] <NameNomad> google returns that it's an azureus thing
[08:31] <NameNomad> so forget that
[08:31] <NameNomad> I even got rid of azureus, this is aggravating
[08:33] <DaSkreech> ruben: Hi :)
[08:34] <DaSkreech> ruben: Welcome
[08:34] <ruben> thanks
[08:34] <gatorxeon> can anyone help me private plz?
[08:34] <ruben> ?
[08:35] <gatorxeon> need some serious help? :(
[08:35] <DaSkreech> gatorxeon: What's the problem?
[08:36] <gatorxeon> well, i kinda screwed up my kde in kubuntu dapper
[08:36] <DaSkreech> Right
[08:36] <DaSkreech> and?
[08:36] <gatorxeon> i can boot in console, than i see a f*cked up bootloaderthing, and than just a black screen with an "x"
[08:37] <gatorxeon> and from there for me it's impossible to get in to kde
[08:37] <DaSkreech> gatorxeon: Ah so X works?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> What did you do?
[08:37] <gatorxeon> uhu
[08:37] <gatorxeon> eeuhm
[08:38] <DaSkreech> If you don't want to be honest we really can't help you
[08:38] <gatorxeon> dll a splash for ksplash
[08:38] <eilker> !networking
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <ubuntu_> just to be sure, one can change the status of the first partiotion on a second sata disk from "active" to "not active" without loosing data right?
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Whats ksplash again?
[08:38] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: I should think so
[08:38] <ubuntu_> cool, thanks :)
[08:38] <gatorxeon> a sort of program than can change that loaderfile just before you get your desktop view
[08:39] <mankeletord> hi all
[08:39] <DaSkreech> Ah right
[08:39] <DaSkreech> what happens when type startx ?
[08:39] <mankeletord> what's the root pass for kubuntu after the first install?
[08:39] <DaSkreech> !root
[08:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:40] <Fleebailey33> you start x!
[08:40] <gatorxeon> makeletord ther is no root in kubuntu, u have to log in as usual, than use sudo befor command
[08:40] <DaSkreech> mankeletord: Read that
[08:40] <Fleebailey33> anyone good with chroot. im trying to install lightscribe labeler
[08:40] <DaSkreech> good with chroot?
[08:40] <Fleebailey33> 32 env in 64
[08:41] <Fleebailey33> guess not
[08:41] <eilker> why do i have 2 eth0 ? one is 10.0.0.x one is 169.254.x.x . and both is working accarding to network interface in kde information center....
[08:41] <DaSkreech> gatorxeon: What happens when you login and type startx ?
[08:41] <mankeletord> ok, thanks
[08:41] <ernz> Hi all, would someone please provide a beryl howto for nvidia on kubuntu that they can personally recommend?
[08:41] <Fleebailey33> read mangage route eilker
[08:41] <Fleebailey33> manapge
[08:41] <mankeletord> if i need to run kdesu?
[08:42] <Fleebailey33> you can run through th0
[08:42] <Fleebailey33> eth0
[08:42] <eilker> Fleebailey33: it is kinda dhcp problem.....
[08:42] <Fleebailey33> did you configure you box without network or network later?
[08:42] <Fleebailey33> i know
[08:42] <eilker> Fleebailey33: but i dont know the solution...
[08:43] <gatorxeon> DaSkreech: it says that the server is already active...
[08:43] <eilker> Fleebailey33: i tried to configre manually, but it again takes the ip 169.254.x.x
[08:43] <Fleebailey33> hm
[08:43] <Fleebailey33> unplug your modem
[08:43] <Fleebailey33> plug it back in
[08:43] <Fleebailey33> i swear
[08:43] <DaSkreech> gatorxeon: did you run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:43] <Fleebailey33> trust me
[08:43] <eilker> Fleebailey33: i did it :)
[08:43] <Fleebailey33> eilker:
[08:43] <Fleebailey33> good
[08:44] <Fleebailey33> was i right?
[08:44] <eilker> Fleebailey33: nope:)
[08:44] <Fleebailey33> shucks
[08:44] <Fleebailey33> becuase i just had a simliar problem
[08:44] <gatorxeon> DasSkreech: just did (linux just next to me here, says sudo /etc/init.d: command not found
[08:44] <eilker> Fleebailey33: i unplugged lan cable, router, and reboot , but still same
[08:44] <Fleebailey33> i found out throuhg the route man man pages my network is odly configured
[08:45] <DaSkreech> gatorxeon: /etc/init.d/gdm ?
[08:45] <Fleebailey33> everything is through eth0
[08:45] <Fleebailey33> weird huh?
[08:45] <gatorxeon> idem
[08:45] <Fleebailey33> works fine now
[08:45] <eilker> Fleebailey33: i have many things, lamp-ftp-vmware server-samba ....cups
[08:45] <Fleebailey33> hm
[08:45] <Fleebailey33> wine by any chance
[08:46] <Fleebailey33> ?
[08:46] <eilker> Fleebailey33: why wine ?
[08:46] <Fleebailey33> i need help with it
[08:46] <Fleebailey33> im bored
[08:46] <Fleebailey33> on school break with new laptop
[08:46] <Fleebailey33> heh
[08:46] <eilker> Fleebailey33: so try vmware server...
[08:46] <eilker> Fleebailey33: it is better and better
[08:46] <Fleebailey33> considering my cousines work for emc......
[08:46] <Fleebailey33> lol
[08:47] <Fleebailey33> i could get it for freeeeee.
[08:47] <gatorxeon> gives the same....
[08:47] <eilker> Fleebailey33: yess
[08:47] <gatorxeon> so i cd to etc/init.d
[08:47] <gatorxeon> and there it says gdm not found?
[08:47] <Fleebailey33> eilker: mind a pm?
[08:48] <eilker> Fleebailey33: as you wish, but here is better, people can see what we talk too...
[08:48] <eilker> gatorxeon: not gdm, it is kdm
[08:49] <eilker> gatorxeon: arent u on kubuntu ?
[08:49] <Fleebailey33> true
[08:49] <Fleebailey33> ok well
[08:49] <gatorxeon> eilker: thought so to (dapper...) but doesn't do anything
[08:49] <Fleebailey33> eilker:
[08:49] <Fleebailey33> how do i use vmware with amd64
[08:49] <Fleebailey33> im new to intel amd linux
[08:49] <Fleebailey33> i got chroot
[08:50] <Fleebailey33> 32 bit
[08:50] <Fleebailey33> obvisoly we mentioned that
[08:50] <gatorxeon> Fleebaily33: check here: http://www.vmware.com/news/releases/64bit.html
[08:50] <DaSkreech> gatorxeon: Duh I mean kdm :-P
[08:50] <Fleebailey33> but how do i add the file to apt and install with synaptic?
[08:50] <Fleebailey33> ahhh
[08:51] <eilker> Fleebailey33: this is useful too http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[08:51] <Fleebailey33> thanks
[08:51] <gatorxeon> eilker
[08:51] <Fleebailey33> no how much is it for others
[08:51] <Fleebailey33> if your cousins dont work for emc
[08:52] <eilker> gatorxeon: yes ?
[08:52] <Fleebailey33> lol
[08:52] <gatorxeon> eilker: yes, i'm using the 6.06 lts for 64bit
[08:52] <gatorxeon> eilker: aka dapper
[08:52] <Psyko> hello
[08:53] <eilker> gatorxeon: sorry what was your problem ?  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start ?
[08:53] <Psyko> does anyone know how to fix this "umount: it seems /dev/hdc is mounted multiple times"
[08:53] <gatorxeon> eilker: nope says command not found
[08:54] <eilker> gatorxeon: r u in X or ?
[08:54] <gatorxeon> no, in tty1
[08:54] <gatorxeon> but x is running, but doesn't show me a login screen or a desktop...
[08:55] <fnord__> how do i tell whvesion im runnning?
[08:55] <eilker> gatorxeon: so why dont u reboot ?
[08:55] <eilker> fnord: lsb_release -a
[08:56] <gatorxeon> eilker: kay rebooting now, whats next?
[08:57] <eilker> gatorxeon: lets see..
[08:58] <gatorxeon> i can see now the bizarre screen (which i tried to install instead of the standard kde theme
[08:58] <Fleebailey33> eilker: do you run it on 64 bit?
[08:59] <Fleebailey33> where can i get a demo deb?
[08:59] <eilker> gatorxeon: which screen ??
[09:00] <gatorxeon> can't remember the name, dll it from http://www.kde-look.org/index.php
[09:00] <gatorxeon> searchin the site now to find which one it is...
[09:00] <eilker> gatorxeon: is it login screen ? or command line ? i couldnt get the point ....
[09:01] <gatorxeon> eilker: splash screens
[09:02] <eilker> gatorxeon: i see, and frozen ?
[09:02] <gatorxeon> idd
[09:04] <gatorxeon> Eilker: is there a way to disable these splash screens from tty1 or something?
[09:04] <eilker> gatorxeon: yes there is
[09:04] <eilker> gatorxeon: gimme a second
[09:05] <gatorxeon> eilker: np thnx , been looking everywhere on the net to solve this trashproblem
[09:06] <eilker> gatorxeon: r we talking about grub splash image ?
[09:06] <inteliwasp> oh joy, i am finaly done with my fall semester, now i have time to mess with my server :)  any sugestions to try out on it? i am curently going to be seeting up apache, mysql, mythtv, and MPD
[09:07] <gatorxeon> eilker: i guess, i installed the file through ksplash in the kde
[09:07] <eilker> gatorxeon: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:07] <eilker> gatorxeon: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:07] <gatorxeon> eilker: in nano opened
[09:07] <gatorxeon> now?
[09:08] <eilker> there will be a line splashimage
[09:09] <gatorxeon> eilker: don't find it :( but are we talking about the same thing?
[09:10] <eilker> gatorxeon: i am not sure...in fact i didnt get your point
[09:10] <gatorxeon> eilker: i think u are talking bout this: http://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/albums/kubu606/boot.jpg
[09:10] <cmdrwill> When i try to log in to KDE, it looks like it tries(the log on dissappears) , bu then it looks like X crashed then it goes blank and then returns to the login screen.
[09:10] <cmdrwill> Anybody know anything about that?
[09:11] <gatorxeon> eilker: i'm having the problem with someithing like this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/17887-1.png
[09:12] <jerp> cmdrwill, so you're getting the login in graphics twice?
[09:12] <eilker> gatorxeon: ok in that screen, is it frozen ? cant u get login screen ?
[09:12] <gatorxeon> no i don't get that screen anymore, before that it's a sort of an animation, and than black, with an x mouse pointer
[09:13] <eilker> ok we need to reconfigure x
[09:13] <cmdrwill> jerp, yes but it will accecpt my password, and then goes to terminal
[09:13] <gatorxeon> eilker: owkay, how to do that?
[09:14] <cmdrwill> jerp, yes but it will notaccecpt my password, and then goes to terminal
[09:14] <cmdrwill> jerp, it goes black like X crashed...it's right before the KDE splash would appear....forget what I said about the terminal] 
[09:14] <eilker> gatorxeon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:15] <cmdrwill> i can't get into KDE at all
[09:15] <jerp> cmdrwill, it sounds slightly like what gatorxeon is going through
[09:15] <cmdrwill> what is happening with gatorxeon ?
[09:16] <cmdrwill> I just recently did a apt-get upgrade....it finished and all.  I am using Dapper, I even tried rebooting, but I didn't think that would help and it didn't.
[09:16] <gatorxeon> @jerp: think so to... @eilker what x-server driver do i choose the best
[09:16] <cmdrwill> It's a brand-new install.
[09:16] <eilker> gatorxeon:  what is your vga card ?
[09:16] <jerp> his computer freezes at that point
[09:16] <gatorxeon> eilker: ati X1300
[09:17] <eilker> gatorxeon:  what do u have in choices ? choose vesa for now, after we change it
[09:17] <jerp> sometimes it's good to install a second time if it's not right and before you load files onto that will have to be archived
[09:18] <gatorxeon> eilker: i have a whole list on my screen... ati is also there, vesa or ati?
[09:18] <eilker> gatorxeon:  ati
[09:20] <gatorxeon> eilker: i get a screen now that asks me wheter i want to use the framebuffer-interface in the kernel?
[09:20] <gatorxeon> eilker: y/n question
[09:21] <eilker> i am not sure, but yes
[09:23] <towync> hi room
[09:23] <nedqlko> hi
[09:23] <towync> i just made 1 dollar on ebay lol
[09:24] <gatorxeon> @all: what is the diffirence between an ImPS/2 mouse or an ExplorerPS/2?
[09:25] <eilker> gatorxeon:  just enter
[09:27] <gatorxeon> eilker: just finished the x config
[09:27] <gatorxeon> what now?
[09:27] <eilker> startx
[09:27] <gatorxeon> startx
[09:27] <gatorxeon> whoops (wrong keyboard :s)
[09:28] <jerp> Since KBFX isn't in the Adept app., does anyone know if there are any known issues with it when loaded on Ubuntu?
[09:28] <gatorxeon> strange, says that the server is already active for display 0
[09:28] <jerp> 6.06 Ubuntu
[09:28] <jerp> 6.06 kUbuntu
[09:28] <eilker> gatorxeon:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:29] <jerp> well I like it and I'm gonna give it a shot.
[09:29] <gatorxeon> eilmer: screen is now changing, now i see the first boot schreen without any text
[09:30] <gatorxeon> jerp: don't understand your question?
[09:30] <eilker> gatorxeon: lets see the result:)
[09:30] <gatorxeon> fatal server error: no screens found
[09:31] <gatorxeon> XIO: fatal IO error 104 on X server ":0.0" aftre 0 requests with 0 events remaining
[09:33] <jerp> gaotr, I think in Newb, and that is that if KBFX was in the Adept package manager, it would have been given the OK by the authorities.
[09:33] <eilker> gatorxeon: it is misconfigured x server....
[09:33] <cmdrwill> an update...I tried installing window maker, and I can't even login to window maker....it seems no matter if it's KDE or window maker I can't get into any desktop environment at all
[09:34] <LjL> !fbfx
[09:34] <LjL> !kbfx
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <ubotu> kbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features
[09:34] <LjL> pfff
[09:34] <LjL> !info kbfx
[09:34] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.1+20060611cvs-1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[09:34] <LjL> !forget kbfx
[09:34] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[09:34] <cmdrwill> anybody have trouble ever getting past the KDE login screen?
[09:34] <jerp> ahh, thanks Lj
[09:35] <cmdrwill> or rather the KDM login screen
[09:35] <jerp> I'm 6.06 kUbuntu, not edgy
[09:35] <gatorxeon> cmrdwill
[09:35] <LjL> !info kbfx dapper
[09:35] <gatorxeon> have same problem
[09:35] <ubotu> kbfx: a new K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8+cvs20060413-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 804 kB
[09:35] <gatorxeon> just tried reconfiguring x
[09:35] <cmdrwill> did it work?
[09:35] <LjL> jerp: ^
[09:35] <gatorxeon> didn't help very much :(
[09:35] <cmdrwill> at all?
[09:35] <jerp> well, I'll go loosen up some Universe repos
[09:36] <jerp> thanks Lj :)
[09:36] <gatorxeon> eilker: any other idea?
[09:36] <LjL> jerp: actually universe is a component, the repository will be "dapper" (or "dapper-backports" if there's a new version)
[09:36] <cmdrwill> did you do anythig right before your problem gatorxeon
[09:37] <gatorxeon> cmdrwill: ? what exactly do u mean?
[09:37] <eilker> gatorxeon: it is misconfigured of your hardware i think
[09:37] <costas> high guys
[09:37] <cmdrwill> Well I was just trundeling along installing apache and stuff and then the next time i looked KDM didn't work
[09:37] <jerp> alrighty, got it
[09:37] <eilker> gatorxeon: may be keyboard
[09:37] <cmdrwill> I did nothing!
[09:37] <murchadh_bhaba> cmdrwill, It happened to me I'm trying to remember were there some incorrectly set bits within the home directories. Easily checked if you can get to a terminal, login, add a user, logout, log that user in and run startx. Process of elimination for us....
[09:38] <eilker> gatorxeon: may be mouse...
[09:38] <costas> how can I compile xorg 7.2?
[09:38] <eilker> gatorxeon: may be vga driver...
[09:38] <cmdrwill> murchadh_bhaba, I tried making a new user (or rather a user I had that I made but never loggedd into)  I made it before I had this problem and I cna't use that one to login either.
[09:39] <eilker> gatorxeon: try again pls, and choose vesa pls
[09:39] <murchadh_bhaba> cmdrwill, Can you log in as root and startx?
[09:40] <murchadh_bhaba> cmdrwill, Just to check!!!
[09:40] <cmdrwill> X is started...
[09:40] <cmdrwill> how can I stop it?
[09:40] <costas> sudo killall kdm
[09:40] <costas> or gdm to stop
[09:40] <murchadh_bhaba> cmdrwill, ctrl+alt+bac.spc
[09:41] <cmdrwill> OK...trying.
[09:42] <cmdrwill> I tried /etc/init.d/kdm start to start it again.
[09:42] <cmdrwill> it's back up..llet me see if I can get back in
[09:42] <cmdrwill> no luck
[09:42] <cmdrwill> even "Failsafe" doesn't work
[09:42] <cmdrwill> This is rather troubling.
[09:43] <ernz> I have two things that I need to sort before I take the permanent dive into Kubuntu, can someone please help me resolve these small issues please, I am strapped for ideas.
[09:43] <costas> guys, I am concerned that X is not terribly responsive when many windows/applications are open
[09:43] <costas> is that normal?
[09:43] <costas> XP is "smoother" if you will
[09:43] <cmdrwill> costas,do you have enough RAM?
[09:43] <cmdrwill> Howmch RAM do you have?
[09:43] <murchadh_bhaba> cmdrwill, Press alt^F1 to see can you get a terminal.
[09:43] <costas> yeah man, 768MB
[09:44] <cmdrwill> ++oh wow
[09:44] <costas> its an 3 yr old Dell Latittude 1.2GHz P3-M
[09:44] <cmdrwill> that is suerly enough
[09:45] <ernz> I recently installed Beryl and almost everything works fine.
[09:45] <ernz> I am having a small annoyance with Kaffeine, when I play DVD's the framerate is a little choppy and blurred.
[09:46] <ernz> I know the system is capable to perfect playback, because I ran a MOV through mplayer, and it's smooth as a baby's arse.
[09:46] <ernz> Any ideas?
[09:46] <nixternal> beryl?
[09:46] <ernz> nixternal - Yep.
[09:46] <nixternal> did it work fine prior to installing beryl?
[09:47] <ernz> nixternal - Yerp
[09:47] <nixternal> well then beryl would be my first choice as the cause of the issue
[09:47] <nixternal> there might be some beryl support around here somewhere..let me look
[09:47] <murchadh_bhaba> ernz, Can't help much with kaffeine as I use amarok, but what was the second thing?
[09:48] <Eyeless> how do i restore(fix) my swap if i broke it trying to hibernate?
[09:48] <costas> eyeless, just restart
[09:48] <ernz> amarok plays DVD's?
[09:48] <costas> if u have issues try: sudo swapoff -a
[09:48] <costas> then: sudo swapon -a
[09:49] <ernz> murchadh_bhaba: How do you play a DVD in amarok?
[09:50] <Eyeless> got an error trying swapon, "Invalid argument"
[09:50] <weedar> I have some code (java) which was written on a windows computer, but the (norwegian) special characters show up as question marks in linux. What can I do to convert it to utf-8?
[09:50] <costas> eyeless try "swapoff -a" first
[09:50] <Eyeless> costas:  i did :P
[09:50] <costas> then "swapon -a"
[09:51] <nixternal> ernz: #beryl for some beryl support if possible
[09:51] <Eyeless> the compleate error message is "swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/b873b1cd-486c-4e34-8cb0-e795eab6f213: Invalid argument"
[09:51] <nixternal> maybe someone there would know of a fix
[09:51] <costas> eyeless, hmmmm Ive never heard of this error before, not sure really
[09:51] <Eyeless> weedar: do you want to convert the sourcecode to utf-8?
[09:52] <goodthing> i might have found a solution, weird one though...  why would my old dapper disk has to be third in row of the sata ports, i just don't see it
[09:52] <Eyeless> costas: thank you anyway
[09:53] <weedar> Eyeless: Well, utf-8 is what is used in kubuntu, right? I want to be able to use the source code "as is" without manually changing the special characters :)
[09:53] <costas> eyeless, you could try "blkid" to give u the correlation between UUIDs and /dev/xxx devices
[09:53] <ernz> murchadh_bhaba: How do you play a DVD in amarok?
[09:53] <ernz> Anyone: How to play a DVD through amarok??
[09:53] <costas> eyeless: maybe ur fstab is corrupted too
[09:54] <Eyeless> costas: probably, it all broke after i tried to hibernate, i think it whined about  a cache signature during boot
[09:54] <costas> eyeless are you using ext2 or ext3
[09:55] <Eyeless> weedar: i had the same problem a short while ago, i wrote a small java program to convert some source to utf-8, dunno where it is now tho
[09:55] <eilker> !zeroconf
[09:55] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[09:55] <kilrae_> silly kubuntu
[09:55] <Eyeless> costas: ext3, but this is the swat, so it shouldnt matter
[09:55] <Eyeless> swap*
[09:56] <weedar> Eyeless: do you remember what function you used or did you have to code everything yourself?
[09:56] <ricky> hi everybody
[09:56] <costas> eyeless: yeah i guess you are right. the only thing i can think is that maybe your fstab does not specify your swap partition
[09:57] <Eyeless> weedar: java have some exelent functions to convert strings of different encodings
[09:58] <the-erm> What's the slowest computer anyone here recommends for installing kubuntu?
[09:58] <Eyeless> costas: well, i dont "think" anything has changed there, btw what util is used to format the swap-space
[09:58] <yackfou> aloha :D
[09:59] <Eyeless> the-erm: what do you want to do with it?
[10:00] <the-erm> I want to make the laptop a remote control.  In other words all it needs to do is surf to 1 site, and 1 site only.
[10:00] <murchadh_bhaba> ernz, gxine plugin. Not sure what it's called, I can check in adept! Must admit, it's been a while since I watched anything on my PC. Could be wrong, as I had loads of stuff on my dapper install, and stuff just played. I've migrated to edgy now that I've ironed out some small kinks. This system is having software installed less haphazardly (for now, I know), keep it clean for a while.
[10:00] <Eyeless> if swap is mounted ig should show up when i run mount without any arguments, right?
[10:00] <the-erm> I could probably get away with just using ssh.
[10:01] <ernz> murchadh_bhaba: OK, thanks bud.
[10:01] <the-erm> It has 98 on it, but it would be nice to run linux on it.
[10:01] <costas> eyeless: i am not sure which utility u use to format swap although i imagine it is mkswap
[10:01] <the-erm> In all seriousness I think there are palm pilots with more computing power than this.
[10:01] <costas> eyeless: when i type mount my swap partition doesnt show up
[10:02] <murchadh_bhaba> ernz, I think sudo apt-get install amarok-xine is worth a go!
[10:03] <ernz> murchadh_bhaba: Already newest version apparently.
[10:03] <Eyeless> the-erm: you could always run plain debian, and "links -g" from a terminal, it shouldnt require much
[10:03] <mray> Hi. Can somebody please tell me how to fix  broken packages? i cant re-install amarok :'(
[10:03] <murchadh_bhaba> costas, That's the norm I believe.
[10:04] <Eyeless> how do i get the "/dev/name" from a UUID?
[10:05] <goodthing> oh, it gets even weirder, now the dapper disk isn't recognized at all
[10:05] <zered> Hi everybody
[10:06] <Eyeless> lo
[10:06] <goodthing> anyone wants to buy a computer? :D
[10:06] <murchadh_bhaba> mray sudo apt-get -f install
[10:07] <DaSkreech> they need an ubuntu-games team
[10:08] <zered> How can I have numeric pad activated in kdm whan the machine is booting ?
[10:08] <DaSkreech> Press numlock?
[10:08] <zered> Thanx DaSkreech ! ;-)
[10:09] <zered> I can tunes it in kde but in kdm ?
[10:10] <DaSkreech> I would suspect so
[10:10] <towync> do people actually make money on ebay?
[10:11] <towync> cuz i just made 1 dollar selling graphics card l.o.l
[10:13] <costas> anybody like symphony-x??
[10:14] <Fleebailey33> i deleted my feisty sources.list somehow. someone want to give me another?
[10:14] <Fleebailey33> heh
[10:16] <bLaZeD> anyone else haveing probs with edgy playing dvds....ive yet to get one to play in ANY movie player
[10:17] <Fleebailey33> libdvdcss2
[10:17] <bLaZeD> i used to be able to use kaffein and xine to actualy navigate the dds
[10:17] <bLaZeD> Fleebailey33, i have it
[10:17] <DaSkreech> Fleebailey33: Try reinstalling it
[10:18] <Fleebailey33> hmm
[10:18] <Fleebailey33> upgrade to fiesty
[10:18] <Fleebailey33> feisty
[10:22] <mray> murchadh_bhaba: thanks - but what is that supposed to do?
[10:22] <mray> i sill cant request a normal install of amarok in the paketmanager
[10:23] <mray> wasn't there some option to clean up all pakets?....
[10:24] <ibert> anybody in here with german Umlauts on his keyboard?
[10:25] <ibert> I have a problem with ark: I have a zip file with german Umlauts in file/dirnames. Ark isn't able to deal with them. in mc it works pretty fine. any idea?
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> switch keybaords back and forth...
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> sorry im pressimistic
[10:26] <gpaterson> hi, has anyone here successfully synced there cellular phone with Kontact?
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> i have no sources.list
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> and no one will give me one
[10:26] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, You have to do that one first, then sudo apt-get update
[10:27] <Fleebailey33> ibert: want to help?
[10:28] <costas> fleebailey33: go to http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and get a source list for dapper. then change all instances of dapper to feisty. its the best i can do for you since i use edy
[10:28] <costas> edgy
[10:28] <ibert> Fleebailey33: didn't follow your problem.
[10:30] <Fleebailey33> thank you so much
[10:30] <Fleebailey33> had so much trouble googling that
[10:30] <costas> its ok mate
[10:30] <DaSkreech> mray: Normal?
[10:31] <DaSkreech> !easysource | Fleebailey33
[10:31] <ubotu> Fleebailey33: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[10:31] <mray> DaSkreech: what do you mean by "normal" ?
[10:32] <DaSkreech> mray: You said something about a normal amarok install?
[10:32] <DaSkreech> !away | MV70
[10:32] <ubotu> MV70: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[10:32] <mray> i just wanted to use amarok - when i installed stuff so that it also plays mp3 i somehow wreked it. (couldn't update it anymore)
[10:32] <DaSkreech> !back
[10:32] <mray> now i removed amarok.
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about back - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <DaSkreech> :-)
[10:33] <DaSkreech> right
[10:33] <mray> but i can't seem to install it even wiith murchadh_bhaba 's tips :(
[10:34] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, What messages are you getting if you type sudo apt-get install amarok at a shell?
[10:35] <mray> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:35] <mray>   amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[10:35] <mray> E: Broken packages
[10:36] <mray> and some other text trying to cheer me up by saying what "could be" the cause...
[10:36] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, sudo apt-get -f install amarok
[10:37] <mray> still teh same error message occurs
[10:38] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, sudo apt-get check
[10:38] <mray> Reading package lists... Done
[10:38] <mray> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:39] <Alter-Ego> anybody ever mess with car computers ?
[10:40] <seele> can you use the display module in system settings to configure an external monitor which is a different resolution than the native monitor?
[10:41] <DaSkreech> mray: is libvisual installed?
[10:41] <mray> no idea!
[10:41] <DaSkreech> check!
[10:43] <matt____> hey
[10:43] <DaSkreech> hay
[10:43] <costas> hey
[10:43] <matt____> do you understand linux really well
[10:43] <costas> REALLY well
[10:44] <matt____> i wish i did
[10:44] <costas> no, actually it aint that easy
[10:44] <matt____> i know
[10:44] <mray> i tried "apt-get install libvisual"
[10:44] <mray> no luck it doesn't find any package with that name
[10:44] <DaSkreech> mray: try apt-cache search libvisual
[10:44] <matt____> i understand windows 3.11,dos,win 95 98 2000 and me
[10:44] <DaSkreech> mray: No wait aptitude search libvisual
[10:44] <matt____> but not linux
[10:45] <DaSkreech> matt____: What don't you understand?
[10:45] <costas> me as in you or as in win me
[10:45] <costas> sorry lame joke
[10:45] <DaSkreech> costas: only oggenc jokes are allowed here
[10:45] <matt____> ive used red had linux 7.3
[10:46] <matt____> its hard and now im using ubuntu gnome and its a bit easyer
[10:46] <theheff> anyone here used realVNC with kubuntu/ubuntu?
[10:46] <mray> i installed libvisial0.2 (the only usable paket i found) -  still amarok won't get installed with an "apt-get install amarok"
[10:47] <costas> matt wait till you start compiling kernels and packages. but its very interesting. its more of a hobby rather than anything else
[10:47] <ORiON-> the heff... i do
[10:47] <DaSkreech> matt____: What's hard? we can probably help you
[10:47] <graft> yo, anyone got musicbrainz working in amarok?
[10:47] <DaSkreech> mray: You have adept?
[10:47] <mray> yes
[10:47] <cloakable> graft: Me
[10:47] <DaSkreech> I did
[10:48] <DaSkreech> Forget how
[10:48] <graft> cloakable: have to do anything special?
[10:48] <theheff> orion: does it work well? hard to install?
[10:48] <DaSkreech> mray: open amarok and search for libvisual
[10:48] <ORiON-> nop
[10:48] <ORiON-> 2 second with aptitude and its working great
[10:48] <theheff> ah, didn't know it was in apt
[10:48] <theheff> thx
[10:48] <betelgeuse46> hello... anyone can help me with samba? I'm a newbie and need help to connect windows file server from my kubuntu.
[10:49] <cloakable> graft: To get mp3 support, I had to install libtunepimp3-mp3
[10:49] <ORiON-> use x11vnc
[10:49] <ORiON-> for server
[10:49] <mray> DaSkreech: you mean "adept" not "amarok" right?
[10:49] <theheff> is that different from the normal one?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> mray: Oh yeah Duh :)
[10:49] <ibert> betelgeuse46: how far are you already?
[10:50] <mray> DaSkreech: i get only three results - libvisual0.2, *-dev , *-plugins
[10:50] <mray> DaSkreech: i only installed the "normal" paket
[10:50] <DaSkreech> mray: what version of amarok are you trying to install?
[10:50] <ORiON-> yea... its better than tightvnc and all the rest alternativez
[10:50] <mray> DaSkreech: well, ANY! -..... the newest!
[10:50] <graft> cloakable: sweet, thanks
[10:50] <DaSkreech> haha
[10:50] <teclo> Hello, where can I find an .iso of Kubuntu 6.06 for PowerPC ?
[10:50] <betelgeuse46> I can see the windows server shares if I try like "smb://192.168.0.1/sharename" but I can not browse like "smb://servername/sharename"
[10:50] <DaSkreech> are you on edgy?
[10:51] <DaSkreech> teclo: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <graft> cloakable: you're the very first person to successfully answer an ubuntu question for me in over a year on these channels :P
[10:51] <mray> DaSkreech: how do i find out?
[10:51] <ArrAKeeN> hello
[10:51] <DaSkreech> mray: type /cmd cat /etc/issue into konversation
[10:51] <mray> DaSkreech: silly me! i'm NOT on edgy
[10:52] <ibert> betelgeuse46: quick and dirty you can make an entry in your /etc/hosts file: 192.168.0.1 hostname
[10:52] <mray> DaSkreech: edgy is the newest of the newest right?
[10:52] <mray> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[10:52] <DaSkreech> newest stable one
[10:52] <ibert> betelgeuse46: then your machine should find the server via hostname
[10:52] <murchadh_bhaba> betelgeuse46, You may need to sudo apt-get install smbclient, if you don't have it.
[10:52] <betelgeuse46> yes, I know I can do that with host file entries but I want to learn the long and clean way.
[10:52] <LeeJunFan> hrm, kopete has taken a liking to crashing on me for the last couple weeks. Nothing new on my system. And I removed all the old kopete configs and started new. Any of the IM providers muck up a protocol?
[10:53] <murchadh_bhaba> betelgeuse46, sudo mount -t smbfs //ip_address/share_name /mount/point
[10:53] <DaSkreech> mray: ok hold on
[10:53] <ibert> betelgeuse46: ok. are you acting with an router? what is your dns server? for me it seems like dns problem, not an smb problem
[10:53] <betelgeuse46> I think I have smbclient becouse I can connect with konqueror when I write "smb://192.168.0.1/sharename"
[10:54] <DaSkreech> mray: What version of KDE do you have?
[10:54] <betelgeuse46> I have an ipcop firewall running on another machine and it's acting my dns server too.
[10:55] <murchadh_bhaba> betelgeuse46, sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.1/sharename /media/samba.share
[10:55] <mray> DaSkreech: erm... i just made an update via adept.... any trick you know to post it in konversation??? ;)
[10:55] <ibert> murchadh_bhaba: he wants to solve his name resolution problem.
[10:55] <DaSkreech> an update to?
[10:56] <ibert> betelgeuse46: do nslookup windowsservername
[10:56] <mray> DaSkreech: you're funny :D i just make udates like apt-get update, apt-get upgrade - or - "fetch lists of updates" & "apply updates"
[10:57] <betelgeuse46> when I nslookup, I get a wrong ip addres from my dns server.
[10:57] <ibert> betelgeuse46: I guess here is your problem :-)
[10:57] <mray> DaSkreech: i have no clue when i use what version :S
[10:58] <betelgeuse46> I don not have samba server installed, I have samba client only. I'll try samba server after I solve this issue.
[11:00] <betelgeuse46> how can I make samba client not to lookup dns for windows names? in windows they can find the manes by broadcast, how can I do this with linux?
[11:00] <ibert> betelgeuse46: yes. but the name resolution doesn't work. try to edit /etc/hosts file. if this works, than it's surely your DNS-server the problem
[11:00] <cmdrwill_0w> ..
[11:00] <mray> DaSkreech: can you tell me if amarok plays mp3 out of the box if i re-install kubuntu?
[11:01] <betelgeuse46> ok. So I can edit /etc/hosts file, it seems the easiest thing for me...
[11:01] <ibert> betelgeuse46: just for testing. not for solution of the problem
[11:01] <DaSkreech> mray: Look under Help -> About KDE
[11:02] <cmdrwill> murchadh_bhaba,  i fix my KDE problem. I reinstalled Kubuntu.
[11:02] <betelgeuse46> maybe, there is an error in my router configuration. (I'm using ipcop linux for routing and firewall. I have to check its dns serverice too.)
[11:02] <mray> DaSkreech: 3.5.2
[11:03] <murchadh_bhaba> cmdrwill, How long did it take?
[11:03] <DaSkreech> Hmmm
[11:03] <cmdrwill> 30min
[11:04] <DaSkreech> what version is amarok>
[11:04] <crimsun_> !amarok
[11:04] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[11:04] <crimsun_> nein
[11:05] <crimsun_> !info amarok feisty
[11:05] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.4-0.3ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 14578 kB, installed size 32536 kB
[11:06] <betelgeuse46> thanks for help. Now I'll try hosts file...
[11:06] <DaSkreech> HI BluesKaj
[11:06] <murchadh_bhaba> cmdrwill, Good going! Now don't do it again. <;})
[11:06] <DaSkreech> mray: What version is your amarok?
[11:07] <mray> i don't have any amarok
[11:07] <mray> i removed it.
[11:07] <DaSkreech> ah
[11:07] <mray> i have trouble installing it again.
[11:07] <DaSkreech> can you type apt-cache policy amarok
[11:07] <mray> (actually the same trouble when trying to upgrade it)
[11:07] <DaSkreech>  Or look at it in adept to see teh cacndidate version?
[11:08] <DaSkreech> candidate
[11:08] <mray> amarok:
[11:08] <mray>   Installed: (none)
[11:08] <mray>   Candidate: 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu1~dapper1
[11:08] <mray>   Version table:
[11:08] <mray>      2:1.4.3-0ubuntu1~dapper1 0
[11:08] <mray>         500 http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[11:08] <mray>      2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 0
[11:08] <mray>         500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[11:08] <mray>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:09] <DaSkreech> what error do you get on installation?
[11:09] <mray> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:09] <mray>   amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[11:09] <mray> E: Broken packages
[11:10] <DaSkreech> do an apt-cache search libvisual-0.4-
[11:10] <DaSkreech> mray: do an apt-cache search libvisual-0.4-0
[11:10] <graft> or find out what it says when you install libvisual-0.4-0
[11:11] <mray> Package libvisual-0.4-0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:11] <mray> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:11] <mray> is only available from another source
[11:11] <mray> E: Package libvisual-0.4-0 has no installation candidate
[11:11] <graft> um... dapper busted
[11:12] <crimsun_> !info libvisual-0.4-0 dapper-backports
[11:12] <ubotu> libvisual-0.4-0: Audio visualization framework. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0-1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 123 kB, installed size 388 kB
[11:12] <BluesKaj> mray ,.. for the latest amarok vers  go to www.imbrandon.com and add his repos to your sources list then reinstall amarok
[11:12] <crimsun_> mray: you're missing dapper-backports.
[11:12] <mray> DaSkreech: i have this STRANGE feeling that it might be best to re-install kubuntu (again!) :(
[11:12] <graft> mray: nah, he's right, just add dapper-backports
[11:13] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, crimsun_ may be right. Don't jump on the install bandwagon just yet!
[11:13] <mray> are dapper-backports in the standard list of repositories (but grayed out)?
[11:14] <DaSkreech> mray: nope always better to fix it :)
[11:15] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: It's dapper on an old KDE maybe not the greatest of ideas
[11:15] <murchadh_bhaba> Come on people, would you re-install WinXP because notepad was giving you trouple? And all the bad feeling here to M$, that wouldn't be the first thing to spring to mind.
[11:15] <mray> DaSkreech: true but when you always depen on th kind help of others you begin to wonder if it is worth it...
[11:15] <DaSkreech> mray: Yes they are
[11:15] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, hehe
[11:15] <DaSkreech> mray: By doing that a few times you learn enough to never have to do it again
[11:15] <DaSkreech> mray: Plus we are family here and don't you forget it ;-)
[11:16] <mray> i'm a non coding guy  - and honestly i try i try i try  but sooner or later i loose the game i end up with a problem that freaks the hell out of me an i use windows again.
[11:16] <murchadh_bhaba> There are some class people in these places, and we let them down every time we do a reinstall. It just gives the whole community that shambolic, try again look.
[11:17] <DaSkreech> mray: I'm not sure how you broke it in the first place :-)
[11:17] <murchadh_bhaba> We can fix things! 8~)
[11:17] <mray> DaSkreech: neitehr do i!!!
[11:17] <mray> :P
[11:18] <mray> ok i activated teh repositories and made an update. what now?
[11:18] <DaSkreech> try install amarok
[11:18] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, sudo apt-get -f install amarok
[11:19] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install amarok
[11:19] <mray>   amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[11:19] <mray> E: Broken packages
[11:19] <mray> sorry guys :(
[11:20] <murchadh_bhaba> mray What command did you issue?
[11:20] <mray> sudo apt-get -f install amarok
[11:20] <mray> same without the "-f"
[11:20] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, Pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> what does the ap-cache policy libvisual-0.4-0 say?
[11:21] <jbruckman> !kernel
[11:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:22] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, I remember using sudo apt-get autoclean once to solve something similar. But it removes all cached (downloaded files).
[11:22] <mray> murchadh_bhaba: what does "downloaded" mean? downloaded but not installed?
[11:23] <elt0n_afk> hi
[11:24] <BluesKaj> yeah murchadh_bhaba ..autoclean does damage
[11:24] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, When apt downloads files it caches them after installing them.
[11:24] <jbruckman> !kernel upgrade
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <mray> didn't change anything :8
[11:24] <elt0n> i installed downloader4x and downloaded 5 files greater than 100mb but they are not in the directory i wanted them to be.
[11:25] <`kber> i'm looking to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu, and i see that Herd 1 is out. is it stable enough, or should i stick to edgy for now?
[11:25] <elt0n> and i din't find them with locate
[11:25] <murchadh_bhaba> elt0n, sudo updatedb
[11:25] <elt0n> i know i made an update
[11:26] <elt0n> but i didn't found the file
[11:26] <elt0n> didn't find the file
[11:26] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, What was your last action?
[11:26] <ArrAKeeN> what's the extension ?
[11:26] <ArrAKeeN> what's the extension of the files ?
[11:26] <BluesKaj> !kernel
[11:26] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:26] <elt0n> .otrkey
[11:26] <mray> DaSkreech: i tried autoclean
[11:27] <mray> no luck though
[11:27] <ArrAKeeN> and locate *.otrkey doesn't give anything ?
[11:27] <jbruckman> okay. So, I'm wondering how to upgrade to kernel 2.10, anyone know?
[11:27] <mray> DaSkreech: i hve no idea to post my apt sources list :s
[11:27] <DaSkreech> mray: what does the ap-cache policy libvisual-0.4-0 say?
[11:27] <elt0n> no new files
[11:27] <elt0n> just some old one
[11:27] <DaSkreech> mray: Do you know pastebin?
[11:27] <mray> DaSkreech: i signed a policy?
[11:27] <DaSkreech> elt0n: check in /tmp would be my guess
[11:27] <mray> DaSkreech: i used it ONCE
[11:28] <DaSkreech> mray: libvisual did. Don't worry about it
[11:28] <ArrAKeeN> so maybe the reason you downloaded them so fast is that you actually didn't :)
[11:29] <mray> DaSkreech: so what is ACTUALLY the problem here? i'm missing a library? r what?
[11:29] <elt0n> DaSkreech: hmm no files that are greater than 100mb
[11:29] <elt0n> does anyone use this programm ? (downloader4x)
[11:29] <DaSkreech> mray: Yes. that's the problem
[11:29] <ArrAKeeN> i don't sorry
[11:29] <mray> elt0n: nope
[11:30] <DaSkreech> mray: You did a sudo apt-get update ?
[11:30] <mray> DaSkreech: i will again to be sure
[11:30] <ArrAKeeN> elt0n: what if you try to locate the downloader4x folders ?
[11:31] <ArrAKeeN> nothing inside ?
[11:31] <elt0n> good idea
[11:31] <xenol> plz how can i install xgl?
[11:31] <ArrAKeeN> does 'locate' work on hidden files/folders ?
[11:31] <mray> DaSkreech: well one server halts on 99% (dintn.no-ip.org)
[11:31] <DaSkreech> mray: Wohohoho
[11:31] <DaSkreech> Where did that come from?
[11:31] <xenol> wat do i need? ati drivers?
[11:32] <DaSkreech> Ok do you know pastebin?
[11:32] <xenol> and wat else?
[11:32] <ArrAKeeN> prayers
[11:32] <mray> DaSkreech: yes more or less
[11:32] <ArrAKeeN> backup of the xorg.conf
[11:32] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, Found something worth a try, sudo apt-get install libvisual-plugins amarok
[11:32] <mray> DaSkreech: but i don't know ho i can list the list :P
[11:32] <xenol> ?xgl
[11:32] <DaSkreech> mray: ok pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:32] <xenol> !ati drivers
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <jp_> is there anyone who speak french ? or spak french group-forum
[11:33] <xenol> !ati
[11:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:33] <ArrAKeeN> jp_: il y a des salons francophones :)
[11:33] <mray> murchadh_bhaba: unfortunately i cant install it - i does not find any paket with that name
[11:33] <jp_> merci mais o
[11:34] <graft> xenol: try getting AIGLX working instead
[11:34] <mray> DaSkreech: how do i get the list in my clipboard?
[11:34] <xenol> !aixgl
[11:34] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, sudo apt-get install xmms-libvisual
[11:34] <graft> odds are that will work with the open-source radeon drivers
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <xenol> !aiglx
[11:34] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[11:34] <mray> murchadh_bhaba: same again
[11:35] <xenol> graft but first i need to downld drivers from ATI webpage if i have ati GPU right?
[11:35] <graft> xenol: no, the open source radeon drivers work for AIGLX pretty well, usually... and in fact the ATI drivers don't support it
[11:35] <elt0n> i think i got my problem ^^
[11:35] <elt0n> my fault
[11:35] <elt0n> sry
[11:35] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, sources.list
[11:36] <elt0n> the files doesnt exist
[11:36] <DaSkreech> mray: open it in kate
[11:36] <DaSkreech> mray: alt+F2 -> kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <ArrAKeeN> elt0n_afk: there is no .downloader4x in your home ?
[11:36] <ArrAKeeN> for instance
[11:37] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: Was just wondering where you were
[11:37] <DaSkreech> hi dettoaltrimenti
[11:37] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[11:37] <xenol> graft so can u gib me link?
[11:37] <DaSkreech> mray: Then copy and paste :)
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> hiya DaSkreech how are you doing?
[11:38] <elt0n_afk> ArrAKeeN: no there isn't
[11:38] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: Not bad. What's up with menu.lst
[11:39] <graft> xenol: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290841
[11:39] <ArrAKeeN> elt0n_afk: I don't know this software, but doesn't this sound weird ? what is the problem you finally found ?
[11:39] <mray> pastebin does not seem to work :S
[11:40] <DaSkreech> What is it doing?
[11:40] <xenol> draft i got kubuntu 6.06.1 and 9600 pro ati radeon card
[11:40] <mray> it shows me a query failure when posting
[11:40] <xenol> that manual is for edgy
[11:40] <DaSkreech> Just try againa
[11:40] <mray> i did!
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> DaSkreech, I fixed it, I use this machine to dual boot kubuntu / gentoo, a kernel update came through which amongst other things seem to nuke my menu.lst leaving only kubuntu settings
[11:41] <mray> DaSkreech: luck is not on my side.
[11:41] <DaSkreech> Ah and what was the cause
[11:41] <elt0n_afk> ArrAKeeN: i made a mistake while adding the files: there is a field containing the file name and i pastet the target folder name into it...
[11:41] <DaSkreech> mray: Which pastebin are you using?
[11:42] <murchadh_bhaba> I just had that gatekeeper.
[11:42] <hermes> greetings everybody want help me with my vmplayer ?
[11:42] <elt0n_afk> i don't know where the files are now but not were they should be ^^
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> DaSkreech,   h3sp4wn, told me if modify where I put the gentoo boot bit it should be ok
[11:42] <ArrAKeeN> elt0n_afk: okay ;)
[11:42] <mray> DaSkreech: pastebin.com
[11:42] <murchadh_bhaba> Sorry, TheGateKeeper, my 6.10 erased my 6.06 out of fstab. Rubbed out!
[11:43] <xenol> !aiglx
[11:43] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[11:43] <mray> DaSkreech: murchadh_bhaba: both of you are really what makes the future of linux! i appreciate your help. but i feel like this is an endless story. i need to proof to myself that i can get along with the system on my own (at least to a certain degree)
[11:44] <mray> if not - the system is not a help for me. but an obstacle.
[11:44] <DaSkreech> mray: Ok a quick explanation of what is going on
[11:44] <DaSkreech> !pastebin | mray
[11:44] <ubotu> mray: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:44] <DaSkreech> mray: ues that one instead
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> well... I have had something of a running battle with updates & config files being tinkered with or reset to default with both gentoo & now kubuntu
[11:45] <mray> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37241/
[11:47] <xenol> omg xgl is so hard to make?
[11:47] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, Thanks, but there have been some issues recently. I've put K/ubuntu up for a lot of people. Most people have a great experience out of the box (or down the wire). But as you appreciate, there are gurus available here to all who are inclined to make it up that hill. You are really close to the top, but don't lose hope.
[11:48] <murchadh_bhaba> TheGateKeeper, Have you got a backup copy of your menu.lst?
[11:48] <DaSkreech> :-)
[11:48] <DaSkreech> mray: can you make a backup copy of that file
[11:48] <mray> DaSkreech: i just see that my activation of the backports got lost
[11:49] <DaSkreech> Yeah it did
[11:49] <mray> :S
[11:49] <TheGateKeeper> murchadh_bhaba, possible, it's not hard to fix, just annoying
[11:50] <ibert> hey guys! a collegue of mine is a lil bit internet addicted. I suggested him to limit his daily access to 2 hours. Is there already a solution existing for dd-wrt or do I have to script it my self?
[11:50] <mray> DaSkreech: what file?!
[11:50] <ibert> sorry, wrong channel...
[11:50] <murchadh_bhaba> TheGateKeeper, Yeah, we can bang one together here if you need!
[11:50] <DaSkreech>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:50] <xenol> !xgl
[11:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:51] <mray> DaSkreech: what for?
[11:51] <DaSkreech> mray: replace it with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37243/
[11:51] <DaSkreech> I'm giving you a new one
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> murchadh_bhaba, no need I fixed it :-)
[11:51] <DaSkreech> This should be able to install amarok and mp3 support
[11:51] <DaSkreech> the first one couldn't
[11:51] <murchadh_bhaba> TheGateKeeper, Nice....
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> murchadh_bhaba, now I know a kernel upgrade does a bit more that just replace your kernel I'll be ready for it next time
[11:55] <DaSkreech> mray: Are you with me?
[11:55] <murchadh_bhaba> TheGateKeeper, Yeah, a bit more than it says on the tin!
[11:55] <mray> DaSkreech: it seems to work!
[11:56] <mray> DaSkreech: what did you do?
[11:56] <DaSkreech> mray: doh I wanted to surprise you :)
[11:56] <Adlai> I am the keymaster
[11:56] <murchadh_bhaba> Nice work DaSkreech and mray! Legend....
[11:56] <DaSkreech> apt-get install amarok libxine-extracodecs would have installed it and mp3 at teh same time
[11:56] <mray> well - that makes it hard for me to surprise my girlfriend on her laptop running kubuntu :S
[11:57] <TheGateKeeper> DaSkreech, you have to install libxine-extracodecs
[11:57] <murchadh_bhaba> mray, You have the sources.list now, you're laughing.
[11:58] <DaSkreech> mray: ok
[11:58] <DaSkreech> well I still have no idea why it broke
[11:59] <DaSkreech> mray: but the two important things I did was to remove the # from in front of the backport lines
[11:59] <DaSkreech> mray: and put multiverse at teh end of the deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe lines
[11:59] <DaSkreech> now if you want to install mp3 support the only thing you need is the multiverse
[12:00] <DaSkreech> mray: Want me to show you how to do that in adept real quick?
[12:00] <mray> ok
[12:00] <murchadh_bhaba> Can I make a general suggestion to all kubuntu heads, as that's where we are, after a fresh install, at a command prompt dpkg -l > ~/Applists/Applist.yyyymmdd. Do this after installing new software. These files can be grepped and diffed, etc.
[12:00] <diego> hi
[12:01] <DaSkreech> mray: open adept and go to Adept -> Manage Repositaries
[12:01] <mray> ok
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> For those who are interested: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories   &&  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[12:02] <eilker> !runlevel
[12:02] <murchadh_bhaba> grep libvisual ~/Applists/Applist.yyyymmdd finds if libvisual is installed. Quicker than starting adept, and you always have a record.
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <mray> DaSkreech:  ok
[12:02] <eilker> !rc
[12:02] <ubotu> rc: an implementation of the AT&T Plan 9 shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-3 (edgy), package size 73 kB, installed size 184 kB
[12:02] <DaSkreech> scroll down to where you see the deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe line
[12:02] <DaSkreech> if it's disabled you will have to enable it
[12:03] <diego> could anybody help me out here please? how on earth can i install firefox on kubuntu? i've tried the terminal and comands on their website but it doesn't work
[12:04] <crimsun_> diego: use adept/apt-get/aptitude/dselect to install firefox
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> diego, which version of (k)ubuntu are you using?
[12:04] <honkzilla> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:04] <murchadh_bhaba> diego, Type sudo apt-get install firefox, if that doesn't work you need to enable some repositories.
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> yeah
[12:04] <diego> version 6.06 LTS for pc
[12:05] <mray> DaSkreech: there is only a "universe multiverse" line :S
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> diego, which version of firefox you after?
[12:05] <DaSkreech> mray: I know :) I put it in. I'm showing you how to do it when it's not there
[12:05] <diego> the latest really
[12:05] <DaSkreech> there will be a line that says deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[12:05] <diego> i think it's 2
[12:05] <diego> 2.00*
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> diego, there is a wiki howto
[12:05] <DaSkreech> If it's not enabled then enable it
[12:06] <DaSkreech>  then double click the universe section and you can write into it
[12:06] <DaSkreech> put a space after universe and type multiverse
[12:06] <DaSkreech> click apply then go back to adept and press fetch updates
[12:06] <BluesKaj> mray, be sure to include the deb and the dapper universe parts
[12:06] <diego> i tried installing it before, the terminal says it's installing and everything but it isn't added to the programs list thing
[12:06] <DaSkreech> mray: then install libxine-extracodecs :-)
[12:07] <diego> TheGateKeeper, thank you, let me see if i can do it this time
[12:08] <murchadh_bhaba> diego, ctrl+F2 then type firefox
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> diego, not tried it myself, but these wiki things are usually straight forward
[12:09] <mray> DaSkreech: ok it was already enabled - i could install the paket right away.
[12:09] <DaSkreech> I know :)
[12:09] <mray> i can now listen to mp3s - thank you!
[12:09] <DaSkreech> mray: you said something about your gf's laptop
[12:09] <DaSkreech>  I was showing you how to install it without the pain you just went through
[12:09] <mray> i remember she has teh same problem
[12:09] <diego> TheGateKeeper, i'm just searching for them
[12:09] <DaSkreech> not hearing mp3?
[12:09] <mray> yep
[12:10] <piv> .
[12:10] <xenol> is it possible to download all files that i need for xgl and onlz install em easily?
[12:11] <DaSkreech> mray: Well that sequence I just told you is the easy fix
[12:12] <mray> ok - i'll try it right now.
[12:13] <xenol> !restricted formats
[12:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats