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BenCedgy, dapper?12:18
david_corralesedgy12:18
BenChave you tried booting an older kernel?12:19
david_corralesI don't have any old kernel12:19
david_corralessince the update didn't change the numeration12:19
david_corralesit was a replacement12:19
mkrufkyBenC: i mailed it to kernel-team, but it got bounced "awaiting moderator approval"12:20
mkrufky(sorry to interject)12:20
david_corralesmkrufky: np :)12:20
BenCmkrufky: It'll get through, thanks12:21
BenCdavid_corrales: No idea there...do you have a CD you can boot rescue from?12:21
mkrufkyok, cool12:21
david_corralessure12:21
david_corralesI can try overwriting grub12:21
okaratasmkrufky good new :)12:21
BenCdavid_corrales: Also, it's not a kernel problem that grub cannot find a file, just FYI12:21
david_corralesI thought about that also12:22
BenCdavid_corrales: No, I don't mean overwriting grub, the problem is much simpler12:22
david_corralesbut why would it suddenly break12:22
mkrufkyokaratas: huh?12:22
david_corralesit can boot fc6 and debian12:22
david_corralesI tried changing the root parameter and partitions (the root is fine though, since it can boot fedora)12:22
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BenCdavid_corrales: That has nothing to do with it12:23
okaratasmkrufky your joined ubuntu kernel network team12:23
BenCdavid_corrales: Boot the rescue CD, and find /boot/grub/menu.lst from the root partition, and also get an "ls -l" of the /boot direction on the root partition12:24
david_corralesthe files are there12:24
david_corralesvmlinuz and initrd.img12:24
BenCvmlinuz and initrd.img are not files12:24
david_corraleswell, those are links in /12:24
david_corralesbut I mean12:24
david_corralesin boot, there's vmlinuz-bla-bla12:24
BenCthey are symlinks, I need to see the actual files in /boot to see if they look sane12:24
mkrufkyokaratas: i am?  that's wierd... i do v4l-dvb stuff, not network stuff :-?12:25
david_corraleswhich is actually, read correctly by the grub command line12:25
okaratasmkrufky hm okey12:25
mkrufkyhehe12:25
david_corralesthat is, if I'm in grub12:25
david_corralesand press e to edit the line12:25
okaratashttps://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-kernel-server12:25
david_corralesI erase it all, then use TAB to autocomplete12:25
david_corralesit'll tell me that the files are there12:25
okaratasmkrufky your devel server package?12:25
BenCdavid_corrales: Something is obviously broken, so if you could get me the actual ls -l output of that directory, I can help, otherwise you're on your own12:25
david_corralesokie, gimme a sec12:26
david_corralesdidn't mean to sound like an ass... it's just that I've tried a couple tricks hehe :)12:26
BenCdavid_corrales: Note that grub isn't using the symlinks, those are mainly if you use lilo...grub uses the /boot/vmlinuz-x.y.z and /boot/initrd.img-x.y.z files12:26
david_corralesyeah, I tried the links and they didn't work either lol12:27
BenCand sometimes those files can get corrupt12:27
david_corralesdebian vanilla uses those12:27
BenCdo you have /boot on a separate partition12:27
BenC?12:27
david_corralesnope12:27
BenCdavid_corrales: well we aren't talking about debian, we are talking about ubuntu :)12:27
david_corralesyeah, I was just saying hehe12:28
david_corralesok12:28
david_corraleshere's my ls12:28
mkrufkyokaratas: v4l-dvb subsystem applies to both server and desktop stuff.... in the case of DVR , then it is for servers, yes12:28
david_corralesabi-2.6.17-10-generic12:28
david_corralesmemtest86+.bin12:28
BenCdavid_corrales: "ls -l" I need to see file sizes, etc12:28
david_corralesconfig-2.6.17-10-generic12:28
david_corralesah k12:28
BenCand please put it on pastebin12:28
david_corraleshmm12:29
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david_corralesI'm actually seeing a difference in the init.rd image12:29
david_corralesfrom my lappy to my desktop12:29
mkrufkyhmm, guess i lost okaratas12:29
david_corralesslow pastebin12:32
david_corralesbtw, the only change from my laptop to my desktop is init.rd. Laptop 7mb (working), desktop 5.5mb (broken)12:33
david_corraleslappy is Pentium M, desktop is Athlon XP12:33
david_corrales*waiting for pastebin to show signs of life12:36
mkrufkypastebin.com has been royally farked for the past many months12:37
mkrufkypastebin.ca is still good though12:38
mkrufkyand http://rafb.net/paste is good too12:38
david_corralesgood to know lol12:38
mkrufkythere is another pastebin on ubuntu's web site, but i dont know where it is, offhand12:38
david_corraleshttp://pastebin.ca/27934112:38
david_corralesthanks for the link mkrufky12:39
mkrufkyI'm happy to help12:39
david_corrales:)12:40
david_corralesbtw, replacing the init.rd file did nothing12:41
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david_corralesBenC: any pointers?12:50
david_corralesBenC: ?01:09
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infinityBenC: Release notes here: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.32.5.html01:38
infinityBenC: Download here: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html01:38
infinityBenC: If you use a feed reader, RSS for releases is at http://www.ati.com/online/rss/atilinuxdriver.rss01:39
mjg59infinity: I'm not convinced that's going to build against 2.6.19+01:39
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BenCinfinity: Thanks01:41
BenCdavid_corrales: pastebin your boot/grub/menu.lst too please01:43
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infinitymjg59: A little patching never killed anyone.01:48
BenCmjg59, infinity: I got the current one to build, so I can do the same here :)01:48
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mjg59The fucking kernel driver calls mprotect01:49
mjg59And modify_ldt01:49
mjg59Using the syscall macros01:49
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david_corralesBenC: I fell asleep! You still there?02:14
david_corralesBenC: http://pastebin.ca/279461 here's the menu.lst file02:42
BenCdavid_corrales: Why does ubuntu say root (hd1,4), and fedora say root (hd0,5), the actual root= is /dev/sda for both?02:54
david_corraleso.o02:55
BenCgroot=(hd1,4)02:55
david_corraleslet me check something02:55
david_corraleshmmm02:55
BenCI think that might have something to do with it02:55
david_corraleslooks like grub changed my root to 1,402:55
david_corralesbah, that was it02:56
BenCgroot is set by grub02:56
BenCisn't02:56
david_corralesnow I feel stupid -_-02:56
david_corralesit should be filed as a bug though02:56
david_corralesI had a previous menu.lst file with (0,4) just checked02:56
david_corralesthe last update, bumped it to (1,4)02:57
david_corralesthing is, I have a second hard drive so it was checking the second one02:57
BenCok, file a bug on grub then02:58
david_corralesokies :)02:58
david_corralesthanks for the help02:58
BenCnp02:59
david_corralesI'll go file it02:59
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david_corralesBenC: one final question. Which package should I commit it to? grub or grub-installer?03:05
BenCgrub03:05
david_corralesk thanks03:06
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derekSBenC: ping? 2.6.20 ended up booting.... i have a bunch of the same errors... 04:19
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fabbioneBenC, kylem: ping?01:46
fabbionelinux-source-2.6.20$ for i in *2.6.20-1.1_sparc.udeb; do dpkg -c $i | grep mpt; done01:47
fabbionewe need the mpt modules to install on Niagara01:47
fabbioneand that would be very nice (aka do it now or die) before monday01:47
fabbionethere is already a bug in LP for that01:48
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zulmorning02:25
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BenCfabbione: Bug report filed already03:43
BenCmissing drivers/block/ and drivers/fusion/03:43
fabbioneBenC: yeps.. those 204:00
fabbionei really need them04:00
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BenCfabbione: commited {block,message}-modules05:26
fabbioneBenC: thanks. Is there any chance we can get a kernel before monday with that stuff?05:27
BenCdefinitely05:27
fabbionegreat thanks05:27
BenCI'll probably upload later tonight05:27
mjg59BenC: Hm. What should be responsible for me ending up with ata-piix and not piix?05:27
fabbioneok05:27
BenCalong with lrm05:27
BenCmjg59: hold a second05:27
fabbioneBenC: can you coordinate with Colin to get also meta and d-i ?05:27
fabbionehe is aware that we need it05:27
BenCfabbione: ok05:27
fabbioneand he was going to prioritize etc..05:27
fabbioneit will really help David and me05:28
BenCmjg59: What were your pci ven/dev id's again?05:28
BenCfabbione: When are you arriving at dave's?05:28
fabbionetomorrow05:29
fabbionearound 6pm your time more or less05:29
fabbionewe already have some kernel stuff discussed .. so stay tuned for patches -> quick uploads05:29
fabbioneit's all good crack ;)05:29
BenCI wont be around Sunday, so take that day off :)05:30
fabbioneSunday i expect that we will be dorking around05:30
fabbioneit's sunday for us too05:30
BenCI have early Christmas stuff to do with family, and a 6pm EST $500k tournament05:30
fabbionebut i couldn't get a flight on sunday as planned05:30
kylemBenC, heh, if you win big, does all this stuff fall onto me? :)05:30
fabbione+ i need to get over 9 hours of jetlag again :)05:30
BenCkylem: First place is $93k, which is nice, but not job quitting material :)05:31
kylemoh, i figured it would be 500K. 05:31
BenCfabbione: good luck with that05:31
BenC$500k is the prize pool05:31
zulBenC: good luck..05:31
kylemahh.05:31
fabbioneBenC: sucks to be me and for only one week :)05:31
zuldont go all in on the first hand05:32
kylemOn Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:05:32
kylem>05:32
kylem> Linus, please do an update from:05:32
kylemNo.05:32
kylemToo effin late.05:32
kylemPlease send bugfixes only by now.05:32
kylem                Linus05:32
BenClol05:32
BenCyeah, there's way too much crack in 2.6.20 already05:32
kylemi dunno about that, the .diff is actually kind of small.05:33
mjg59BenC: 8086:266f05:33
kylempatch-2.6.20-rc1.gz                14-Dec-2006 02:00  3.9M  05:33
kylempatch-2.6.19-rc1.gz                05-Oct-2006 03:27  6.6M  05:33
kylem... that can't be right.05:34
fabbionekylem: size doesn't matter here.. really05:34
zulin some cases it does ;)05:34
BenCkylem: Wow, I wouldn't have guessed that05:34
kylemin most cases, size matters...05:34
BenCare you sure 2.6.19 didn't get a lot of whitespace cleanup? :)05:34
kylempatch-2.6.18-rc1.gz                06-Jul-2006 04:24  5.8M  05:35
kylempatch-2.6.17-rc1.gz                03-Apr-2006 03:45  6.0M  05:35
BenCwe need a way to measure invasiveness05:35
kylemthere's got to be a mistake.05:35
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fabbionezul: no, it doesn't.. you can break all with one liner...05:35
mjg59BenC: There's a lot of PCI IDs that are common between ata_piix and piix05:36
fabbione-#define libata 005:36
fabbione+#define libata 105:36
fabbionewe all remember that, don't we? :)05:36
BenCmjg59: Inside of ATA_ENABLE_PATA05:36
mjg59Yes05:36
mjg59But there's IDs in piix that aren't in ata_piix05:37
mjg59Not sure if that's deliberate - some of them may me in old_piix and the other one05:37
BenCmjg59: Guess I need to go through and compare...disable the ones in piix when ata_piix is configured05:38
mjg59Yeah05:38
mjg59As far as I know, anything in piix that isn't in old_piix and mpii_piix (or whatever) should be in ata_piix05:38
BenCmjg59: lol, there only one in oldpiix05:39
BenCsame for mpiix05:40
BenC0x1230 and 0x123405:40
BenCit's so pissing me off that most of the pata drivers are using hex instead of the pci_ids.h macros05:42
mjg59BenC: Yeah, that sounds about right05:42
BenCit's so much easier to rgrep drivers/ with the macro than the hex05:43
BenCmjg59: piix contains only 5 id's once ifdef'd for pata stuff06:20
mjg59BenC: I've got 30 or so from 2.6.19-706:21
mjg5924, to be precise06:21
BenCmost of those will be gone on the next upload06:22
mjg59Ok06:22
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zulheh there is an ubuntu satanic edition08:19
bronsonzul: Yeah, that looks pretty sweet. 08:36
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bronsonOK, I've put my linux-vserver packages up.  http://git.u32.net/08:37
bronsondeb http://dpkg.u32.net/ubuntu edgy main   (deb-src works too)08:37
BenCbronson: Nice, you should post to -devel about that08:48
bronsonWill do.08:48
bronsonMaybe add a short howto on the Wiki too.08:49
BenCsounds good08:50
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superm1ping BenC 08:57
BenCsuperm1: pong08:57
superm1hi BenC.  I just wanted to let you know that there was an ivtv 0.9.1 release that should probably go into l-r-m rather then 0.908:57
superm1it was announced a few days ago08:58
BenClrm?08:58
BenCis ivtv non-free or something?08:58
superm1well i was assuming it'd build off linux-restrictd-modules08:58
superm1you remember we talked before, correct?08:59
BenCit's in the ubuntu/ directory of ubuntu-2.6 (2.6.20) git right now08:59
BenC0.9.1 is08:59
superm1oh okay08:59
superm1well then nvm :)08:59
BenCgoing to be in the 2.6.20-2.2 upload08:59
superm1great08:59
superm1thanks a bunch for making this happen09:00
BenCnp09:02
superm1so, question though - will the resulting modules be shipping directly on all boxes, or will this be an ivtv-modules package?09:05
BenCdefault09:06
BenCkernel will provide the ivtv-modules09:06
superm1okay09:06
superm1that will make this much easier for users then, just needing to install the firmware09:07
superm1okay well off to lunch for me, have a good one09:08
BenCwhere's the firmware, I can maybe include that too09:08
superm1well its non fre09:08
superm1*non free09:08
superm1and there is a license attached to it09:08
BenCI can maybe put it in lrm depending on the license09:08
superm1i just got it accepted into multiverse09:08
superm1like an hour ago09:08
BenCif the kernel proper has the driver, the firmware should go with it09:08
superm1well the license is all in the packaging now.  here i'll give you a revu link09:09
superm1http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=378609:09
superm1when i spoke to the hauppauge rep, it was made clear that we just need to have the user be presented the end user license09:10
superm1which is what the firmware package will be doing09:10
superm1I was assuming the process to get it into l-r-m in the first place would mean it going into multiverse first anyhow (at least thats the way MOTU made it seem)09:21
BenCsuperm1: Ah, if it's an EULA, then yeah, separate package is best09:34
superm1Ok09:34
superm1would it be feasible to move it into restricted though rather then multiverse?09:35
superm1so that you didnt need to enable multiverse to use it09:36
superm1out of the box09:36
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MithrandirBenC: plans for 2.6.20 lrm in NEW soonish?10:04
BenCMithrandir: over the weekend10:04
Mithrandircoolie10:04
BenCI'm doing a build/boot test of latest 2.6.20 git now10:04
Mithrandirping me when you need NEW love.10:04
BenCok, thanks10:05
zul later../10:07
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bronsonOh no, the entire .git/ tree ended up in my source package.10:44
bronsonHow do you guys prevent that from happening?10:44
superm1when you debuild, you can add a -i10:53
superm1that at least works to leave out .bzr and .svn directories10:55
superm1i'm imagining it works for .git too10:55
superm1bronson, if .git isn't automatically filtered with the -i, the man page indicates that it will take regexps to filter additional directories10:58
bronsonsuperm1: I can do that, certainly.10:58
bronsonI was just wondering if the kernel guys had it a bit more automated.10:59
superm1setup an env variable11:01
superm1DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS11:01
superm1and add what you are missing to it11:02
superm1(the -i)11:02
superm1that can also go in /etc/devscripts.conf11:02
bronsonHey, that sounds good to me.11:02
bronsonsuperm1: thanks!11:02
superm1yup11:02
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