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| rjian | elkbuntu: good morning.. | 02:06 |
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| rjian | elkbuntu: u there? | 02:06 |
| rjian | hmmm no ones here | 02:07 |
| somerville32 | I'm here | 02:08 |
| somerville32 | jenda: ping | 02:09 |
| rjian | somerville32: hello hehe can u point me to the logo guidelines? | 02:09 |
| somerville32 | Try speaking with the Ubuntu art team | 02:10 |
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| rjian | hehe ok thnx | 02:11 |
| Admiral_Chicago | rjian: google official ubuntu art | 02:11 |
| Admiral_Chicago | there should be a page on the team descrpition | 02:11 |
| somerville32 | Admiral_Chicago, Hey | 02:11 |
| rjian | Admiral_Chicago: hello | 02:11 |
| Admiral_Chicago | hello | 02:11 |
| somerville32 | What was with that really weird message on the ml? | 02:12 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i'm not on the mailing list, dunno | 02:12 |
| rjian | Admiral_Chicago: hehe finding guidelines for the logo because the loca Ubuntu-ph team logo is not qualified | 02:12 |
| rjian | a/loca/loCo | 02:12 |
| rjian | somerville32: u can check the propose logo to the trademark on the Ubuntu-ph team http://jucato.org/stuff/ubuntu-ph.png | 02:32 |
| somerville32 | Cool :] | 02:32 |
| rjian | somerville32: but not qualified :( | 02:32 |
| rjian | somerville32: any suggestion u can make? | 02:33 |
| somerville32 | I'm afraid I have nothing to do with artwork. | 02:34 |
| somerville32 | But I'll ask my art buddy | 02:34 |
| somerville32 | ...Who happens to be offline right now | 02:35 |
| somerville32 | hehe | 02:35 |
| somerville32 | You might e-mail the ubuntu-art team mailing list | 02:35 |
| somerville32 | I'm sure they'll be happy to give you pointers | 02:35 |
| rjian | somerville32: hehehe ok.. :) | 02:42 |
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| cellofellow | anybody interested in marketing Xubuntu, help out at http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/ubuntu/wiki | 04:53 |
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| cellofellow | I saw somebody access it. What do you think? | 05:06 |
| somerville32 | lol | 05:08 |
| cellofellow | somerville32: not you cody I know you've seen it. :) | 05:09 |
| somerville32 | ;] | 05:09 |
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| jenda | elkbuntu: you're on a mailing spree? :) | 12:29 |
| elkbuntu | jenda, yep | 12:29 |
| jenda | I think Dan will be able to make it to the meeting. | 12:29 |
| jenda | Which is good. | 12:29 |
| jenda | I invited matthewrevell, too, having stumbled upon him. | 12:29 |
| jenda | But he'll probably not make it. | 12:30 |
| elkbuntu | didnt expect he would | 12:30 |
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| a7p | hi everyone, I just had a little chat @ubuntu-bugs ... and I'd like to suggest to introduce something like "A bug a week" ... one bug and it's symptoms get described and then it is shown how this particular bug was fixed ... | 12:46 |
| a7p | I don't know if it is a good idea to get more people into bugfixing and reporting ... but at least it's an idea. | 12:47 |
| elkbuntu | a7p, have you put this past sfllaw? | 12:47 |
| a7p | elkbuntu, no, I've talked to hobbsee and she pointed me here. | 12:48 |
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| elkbuntu | a7p, ok. if you're unsure, talk to sfllaw, and see what he thinks the best way to go would be. if he thinks it's a good idea, and you are willing to maintain the section, then by all means, we can consider adding it :) | 12:49 |
| a7p | okay, I will talk to him ... (eventhough I think I am not able to maintain something that technically). | 12:50 |
| Admiral_Chicago | a7p: similar to debian package a week? | 12:50 |
| jenda | I could imagine that appearing in the UWN. | 12:51 |
| a7p | Admiral_Chicago, exactly only about bugs and how they got fixed. | 12:51 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i like the idea. | 12:51 |
| === a7p too *g* | ||
| Admiral_Chicago | not sure about implementation, there are many ways to work it | 12:51 |
| elkbuntu | i do too. however, i believe simon should get a say on how he thinks it would be most beneficial/effective | 12:52 |
| Admiral_Chicago | yup, I don't think they would have a problem with it however | 12:53 |
| Admiral_Chicago | you might also want to put a little: how it was triaged etc | 12:53 |
| Admiral_Chicago | not sure | 12:53 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i have finals to study for | 12:53 |
| Admiral_Chicago | @now chicag | 12:53 |
| Admiral_Chicago | @now chicago | 12:54 |
| Admiral_Chicago | see? | 12:54 |
| Admiral_Chicago | oh it doesn't work bit it's 5.54 here..... | 12:54 |
| Admiral_Chicago | yea | 12:54 |
| elkbuntu | ubugtu does the time | 12:57 |
| a7p | elkbuntu, who do I best contact sfllaw? I just queried him - but no reaction (may be I should give him 5 or 6 hours). | 12:57 |
| elkbuntu | a7p, he's in canada and it's 4am there | 12:58 |
| elkbuntu | or so | 12:58 |
| a7p | what a weak excuse *g* ... | 12:59 |
| MenZa | Denn du bist was du isst! Es ist mein Teil! | 12:59 |
| a7p | I'll put my jabber id in the query so he can answer when he wants. | 01:00 |
| elkbuntu | https://launchpad.net/people/sfllaw | 01:00 |
| tonyyarusso | a7p: Indeed it is. | 01:01 |
| tonyyarusso | 7:00 AM for me in Canada, and haven't gone to bed yet | 01:02 |
| elkbuntu | tonyyarusso, he's probably over your side of the icecube anyway | 01:02 |
| tonyyarusso | Icecube? | 01:02 |
| tonyyarusso | It's 4 degrees, in the middle of December! | 01:03 |
| elkbuntu | i rest my case | 01:03 |
| tonyyarusso | We don't even have snow, in fact, it's supposed to rain today | 01:03 |
| tonyyarusso | Bloody weather | 01:03 |
| tonyyarusso | The snow should be up to my knees by now... | 01:03 |
| elkbuntu | well thats ok, we're in for a 40'C summer | 01:03 |
| tonyyarusso | ewwwwwww | 01:04 |
| === tonyyarusso would die | ||
| tonyyarusso | possibly literally | 01:04 |
| tonyyarusso | Well, lesse ours was | 01:04 |
| elkbuntu | it was 35'C at 9:30pm the other day | 01:04 |
| tonyyarusso | Does ubotu do math? | 01:04 |
| tonyyarusso | 40 / 5 = 8, 8 * 9 = 72, 72 + 32 = 104 | 01:04 |
| elkbuntu | no, google does though | 01:04 |
| tonyyarusso | Okay, yeah we go over that. | 01:05 |
| tonyyarusso | Last summer we hit 106 | 01:05 |
| tonyyarusso | But I usually crawl up in a ball in the basement and cry when that happens. | 01:05 |
| elkbuntu | um.. who said 40 was the temp we 'hit'? | 01:05 |
| tonyyarusso | blargh | 01:05 |
| elkbuntu | i mean we're looking to have a summer of almost 40 average | 01:05 |
| tonyyarusso | I remember being stranded in South Dakota when it was 110 | 01:06 |
| tonyyarusso | That was unpleasant | 01:06 |
| elkbuntu | i bet | 01:06 |
| tonyyarusso | My comfort range is -40 - +75 deg F | 01:06 |
| elkbuntu | heh, i prefer above freezing, but cold is better than hot | 01:07 |
| elkbuntu | in a few weeks, nekkid will be over dressed | 01:07 |
| MenZa | Depends on the situation. | 01:07 |
| tonyyarusso | You can always put more clothes on, but there's a limit to what you can take off | 01:07 |
| elkbuntu | tonyyarusso, precisely | 01:07 |
| MenZa | if you're lying in a tent with a tiny sleeping bag, I prefer hot. | 01:07 |
| MenZa | :d | 01:07 |
| tonyyarusso | MenZa: Ewww | 01:07 |
| === MenZa has been in that situation, freezing | ||
| elkbuntu | lol | 01:07 |
| tonyyarusso | I have stains on my ThermARest from sweat in SD that summer | 01:07 |
| elkbuntu | MenZa, i've been in that situation, on christmas eve, in an inch of rain | 01:08 |
| MenZa | ow | 01:08 |
| elkbuntu | well, the puddle was an inch deep anyhow | 01:08 |
| a7p | argg ... chrismas ... I still need to buy gifts ... :| | 01:08 |
| tonyyarusso | I've been tenting comfortably in -9 F (-20something C) | 01:08 |
| elkbuntu | got mine done yesterday :D | 01:08 |
| elkbuntu | MenZa, btw, the only reason i was sleeping in a puddle, is because cousins and brothers decided to peg lemons around for a dog to chase, and one was directed at the tent... so lemon + following dog rendered tent damaged :( | 01:10 |
| MenZa | lol | 01:10 |
| MenZa | That sucks :o | 01:10 |
| MenZa | a7p: me too :\ | 01:10 |
| MenZa | I have... two. | 01:10 |
| MenZa | Another two, that is | 01:11 |
| tonyyarusso | You know what's really nice for winter camping though? Quinzees. | 01:11 |
| tonyyarusso | Sooooo warm | 01:11 |
| tonyyarusso | and cozy | 01:11 |
| elkbuntu | a what? | 01:11 |
| tonyyarusso | Snow hut. You make a pile of snow, let is sit for a few hours to set, then hollow it out. | 01:12 |
| elkbuntu | you canadians are weird | 01:13 |
| tonyyarusso | Try it some time | 01:13 |
| tonyyarusso | And I'm only kinda Canadian | 01:13 |
| jenda | why that, tonyyarusso? | 01:19 |
| tonyyarusso | jenda: Why kinda Canadian? | 01:19 |
| jenda | yep | 01:19 |
| tonyyarusso | I'm born, raised, and issued a passport in the USA. I'm going to school in Canada though (uni, 2nd year), and they actually _have_ an Ubuntu LoCo, so.... | 01:20 |
| jenda | cool ;) | 01:21 |
| jenda | I did my 12th year of high school in Canada | 01:21 |
| jenda | en franais :) | 01:21 |
| tonyyarusso | Plus, Minnesota's a blue state, _and_ north of where I am in Ontario, so it's like honorary Canada | 01:21 |
| jenda | lol | 01:21 |
| jenda | blue = democrats, right? | 01:21 |
| tonyyarusso | Yeah | 01:22 |
| === MenZa nods | ||
| tonyyarusso | Just to confuse the world, since _everywhere_ _else_ blue is conservatives... | 01:22 |
| jenda | hehe | 01:22 |
| xipietotec | anyone here a FSF member? | 01:22 |
| jenda | including here. | 01:22 |
| MenZa | Thought about it, xipietotec | 01:22 |
| === jenda points at... he ain't here :) | ||
| tonyyarusso | Oh, and in our case, it's not just democrats, it's "Democratic Farmer Labor party" - our own little version; has to do with unique state political history stuff | 01:23 |
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| tonyyarusso | I should get some sleep | 01:24 |
| jenda | heh... | 01:24 |
| jenda | are you still up, or already up, tonyyarusso? | 01:24 |
| tonyyarusso | jenda: still | 01:25 |
| jenda | funky | 01:25 |
| tonyyarusso | yep | 01:25 |
| elkbuntu | tonyyarusso, the US has a LoCo, that's splintered 20 ways to stupidity | 01:25 |
| jenda | Dan buch is your timezone, and he got up about an hour ago :) | 01:25 |
| tonyyarusso | So, the sun will be up soon, therefore I'm going down | 01:25 |
| a7p | tonyyarusso, that's right - hide from it. | 01:25 |
| tonyyarusso | elkbuntu: I'm not aware of any activity other than CO and NJ | 01:25 |
| jenda | tonyyarusso: there are quite a few. | 01:26 |
| jenda | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList?highlight=%28CategoryLoCoTeams%29 | 01:26 |
| elkbuntu | tonyyarusso, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamsList | 01:26 |
| tonyyarusso | But do any of them DO anything? | 01:26 |
| jenda | AFAIK, Chicago is quite active. | 01:26 |
| tonyyarusso | Oh, and chicgo | 01:27 |
| elkbuntu | tonyyarusso, proliferate more splinters | 01:27 |
| === jenda points at nixternal | ||
| elkbuntu | utah is a bit ok as well afaik | 01:27 |
| === tonyyarusso checks whether anyone is in -midwest | ||
| tonyyarusso | Mmmmmm, me and ubotu | 01:27 |
| elkbuntu | haha.. poke imbrandon to join his own damned loco then | 01:28 |
| xipietotec | see? No one lives in the midwest | 01:28 |
| tonyyarusso | I'll try during daylight hours sometime | 01:28 |
| tonyyarusso | Where's imbrandon from? | 01:28 |
| jenda | atoponce is the Utah guy... | 01:28 |
| tonyyarusso | Minnesota has a LP page, but no irc channel | 01:28 |
| xipietotec | huh....no one in #ubuntu-california either | 01:29 |
| jenda | careful about too many IRC channels, it can split the effort. | 01:29 |
| jenda | Dan Buch says 'lump, don't split' :) | 01:30 |
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| atoponce | elkbuntu: yeah. we are very active, actually. meeting once a month, with ~15 members | 02:00 |
| atoponce | our mailing list and forums are low activity though | 02:01 |
| elkbuntu | atoponce, we = ? | 02:01 |
| atoponce | utah loco team | 02:01 |
| elkbuntu | aha, read up finally | 02:01 |
| atoponce | :) | 02:01 |
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| elkbuntu | no prob. | 02:02 |
| atoponce | hey, i like your ubuntu counter. are you thinking of releasing the source to it? | 02:02 |
| elkbuntu | atoponce, when/if i ever clean it up | 02:03 |
| atoponce | :) | 02:03 |
| jenda | atoponce: I hope you don't want to decentralise it. | 02:03 |
| jenda | :) | 02:03 |
| atoponce | np. just curious. | 02:03 |
| jenda | elkbuntu: you should follow the launchpad model ;) | 02:03 |
| atoponce | jenda: i've been thinking of setting up a dvorak counter | 02:03 |
| jenda | woo :) | 02:03 |
| jenda | elkbuntu: please open up the source! :) | 02:04 |
| atoponce | :) | 02:04 |
| elkbuntu | jenda, atm, that's basically the reason. "it's not ready" | 02:04 |
| jenda | k | 02:04 |
| elkbuntu | atoponce, it's a surprisingly simple model. it stores users, then counts the users. | 02:05 |
| atoponce | elkbuntu: yeah. i was planning one out, and it didn't seem too bad, but then i thought, rather than reinvent the wheel, use another api, and improve it. :) | 02:06 |
| jenda | EEE | 02:06 |
| jenda | hmm | 02:07 |
| jenda | we might get a chance to appeal to the Culture ministry to use FLOSS | 02:07 |
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| jenda | the CZLUG leader to the minister: "You probably aren't pleased with being the head of the best known organisation involved in software piracy in the country" | 02:08 |
| jenda | that's some cheek ;) | 02:08 |
| jenda | s/cheek/brazenness/ | 02:08 |
| atoponce | nice | 02:09 |
| === jenda waves at MitchM | ||
| jenda | you there? | 02:12 |
| jenda | wow... after a bit of research: | 02:12 |
| jenda | more than two thirds of their computers run illegal soft :) | 02:13 |
| jenda | ROFL | 02:13 |
| jenda | Go government. | 02:13 |
| atoponce | why doesn't that surprise me? :) | 02:13 |
| jenda | 150-200 MS Win licences :) | 02:14 |
| jenda | mm | 02:14 |
| jenda | that's over a million CZK :) | 02:15 |
| jenda | rofl... | 02:15 |
| jenda | that's a chance for us. | 02:16 |
| jenda | meh... | 02:17 |
| jenda | not sure if we want them to use our wonderful OS | 02:17 |
| jenda | They were lent 25 PCs a few years ago by a company, and didn't return them when they were due... so the company billed for them, and they never paid. | 02:18 |
| atoponce | nice | 02:21 |
| atoponce | there are a couple employees at my work who have pirated software on their machines. | 02:22 |
| atoponce | and ith it manager knows about it, but prefers to "forget" it | 02:23 |
| atoponce | drives me nuts | 02:23 |
| atoponce | s/ith/the/ | 02:23 |
| jenda | hehe | 02:35 |
| nixternal | i don't get the statement "the US has a LoCo, that's splintered 20 ways to stupidity" | 03:11 |
| elkbuntu | nixternal, your one country, has quite literally 10x the number of locos *ANY* other country does | 03:12 |
| nixternal | and we have 10x the population as well | 03:13 |
| nixternal | Ubuntu Chicago has a market of 9 million plus to reach alone | 03:14 |
| elkbuntu | you have more population than china or india? | 03:14 |
| nixternal | umm no | 03:14 |
| elkbuntu | china has the whole of 2 locos, not 20 | 03:14 |
| elkbuntu | india i believe has 1 | 03:14 |
| elkbuntu | they cope fine | 03:15 |
| elkbuntu | *that* was my point | 03:15 |
| nixternal | ya, but i am willing to bet there are areas that aren't being targeted | 03:15 |
| nixternal | screw it, i guarantee it | 03:15 |
| jenda | elkbuntu: india has more. | 03:15 |
| nixternal | coping is one thing, effectively reaching the entire market is another | 03:15 |
| elkbuntu | there's still areas that arent being targeted in the US, because there's people starting 1 person locos | 03:15 |
| jenda | and the loco teams are meant to be able to target their area. | 03:15 |
| jenda | I can't imagine a team properly managing the entire states. | 03:16 |
| nixternal | well 1 person loco's is ignorant | 03:16 |
| elkbuntu | jenda, no, but one team managing the chapters would be great | 03:16 |
| jenda | meh | 03:16 |
| jenda | ok | 03:16 |
| jenda | ;) | 03:16 |
| nixternal | the only reason i started chicago is because we instantly had 40+ interested from the forums alone | 03:16 |
| elkbuntu | why not illinois as a whole? | 03:17 |
| nixternal | plus now I am the president of the LoCo, so now we have just kind of grew into one huge "Ubuntu Marketing" family in the Chicago land area | 03:17 |
| nixternal | we are looking at becoming Ubuntu Illinois actually | 03:17 |
| elkbuntu | cool, good | 03:17 |
| nixternal | we have people in the center of the state now and the southern portion of the state | 03:17 |
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| elkbuntu | :) | 03:17 |
| nixternal | so it only makes sense for us to become Illinois eventually | 03:18 |
| juliux | hi all | 03:18 |
| jenda | yo, jules. | 03:19 |
| jenda | :) | 03:19 |
| jenda | juliux: what's your email again? I had someone email @ubuntu.com, and it came back undelivered. | 03:19 |
| juliux | jenda, jbloch@ubuntu.com or jbloch@edubuntu.org are working but my main one is juliux@ubuntu-de.org | 03:20 |
| jenda | long live spam ;) | 03:20 |
| juliux | i have a greate spamfilter;) | 03:20 |
| jenda | k, will rememba for next time. | 03:20 |
| jenda | hehe | 03:20 |
| juliux | elkbuntu, in which channel is the marketing meeting? | 03:23 |
| elkbuntu | juliux, um... i really dont know | 03:24 |
| juliux | elkbuntu, good answer;) | 03:24 |
| elkbuntu | juliux, well... for as long as i've been with the team, there's not been a meeting | 03:24 |
| nixternal | heh, we used to have a lot of "good" meetings | 03:24 |
| elkbuntu | nixternal, people obtained lives | 03:24 |
| nixternal | must be ;p | 03:25 |
| nixternal | hey | 03:25 |
| nixternal | what are you saying? i don't have a life now? ;p | 03:25 |
| elkbuntu | you're one of the ones that does | 03:25 |
| nixternal | well, i guess....tell me something i didn't know already | 03:25 |
| nixternal | if i can't purchase it on amazon, then i don't need it ;) | 03:25 |
| elkbuntu | you're part of the problem, man | 03:25 |
| nixternal | always am, if you have an issue, please file a bug against it in malone | 03:26 |
| nixternal | heh, now that would be one hell of a triagers nightmare...fixing "nixternal" bugs | 03:26 |
| elkbuntu | but seriously, ompaul got a life and gnewsense, matthewrevell got a life and a canonical job, mdke... i dont know if he's on much anymore, but he got a life and a job | 03:27 |
| nixternal | bah, i don't need all that...i got a life with school & ubuntu..that's enough for me | 03:27 |
| nixternal | anymore and my head would explode | 03:27 |
| juliux | school lol ;) | 03:27 |
| nixternal | ya, but i am double majoring now to finish my masters and another comp sci degree, and then possibly (haven't made up my mind yet) a phd in probably electrical engineering or comp sci | 03:28 |
| juliux | phd ? | 03:29 |
| nixternal | at 32, i decided to finish everything, since the military is paying for everything...can't loose that opportunity | 03:29 |
| nixternal | dr. or philosophy | 03:29 |
| nixternal | which is scary to think about | 03:30 |
| nixternal | thank god for musicbrainz | 03:41 |
| nixternal | i converted all of my music to ogg last night (finally), and a lot of the tags were removed | 03:42 |
| atoponce | musicbrainz rocks! i don't know what i'd do without it. i certainly wouldn't tag the files myself! ;) | 03:53 |
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| nixternal | ya, i just noticed the button for it in amarok and totally forgot i set that up many months back | 04:04 |
| atoponce | so, am i to understand that the marketing meeting is in 10 hours and 49 minutes? | 04:11 |
| elkbuntu | atoponce, i believe 30 hours. confirm with Burgwork if he ever regains consciousness | 04:12 |
| atoponce | hmm. ok. trying to decipher if it's 12:01am is sat or sun | 04:13 |
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| MitchM | jenda -- good sir? | 04:19 |
| jenda | MitchM: I was about to warn you about an email coming - it's already there, though. | 04:20 |
| MitchM | lol k | 04:20 |
| MitchM | jenda: Bah! More users. | 04:21 |
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| MitchM | well jenda -- It will be hard to get everyone to be able to read/write securely. | 04:30 |
| jenda | hmm | 04:30 |
| jenda | how dat? | 04:30 |
| MitchM | Since apache needs to be a member of the group to read the web files. That means if I add "other" people to the group -- and allow them "Write" privs. | 04:30 |
| MitchM | Then apache has write privs to the directory also. | 04:31 |
| MitchM | which is (in my experience) never a good idea. | 04:31 |
| MitchM | If you would like me to create a seperate "diy" account for general use. | 04:31 |
| MitchM | I can do that | 04:31 |
| MitchM | or I can proceed on with adding everyone to the group | 04:31 |
| MitchM | and giving apache write access to the files | 04:32 |
| jenda | ok, then, just leave it as it is :) | 04:32 |
| MitchM | k :) | 04:32 |
| MitchM | and what abou the newuser "bueno" | 04:32 |
| MitchM | ignore? | 04:32 |
| MitchM | about* | 04:32 |
| jenda | MitchM: we'll just let him use the account there is now, if necessary. | 04:38 |
| MitchM | Good. | 04:38 |
| MitchM | Thats what i like to hear =) | 04:38 |
| MitchM | lol | 04:38 |
| jenda | 04:40 | |
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