=== anuragJ [n=anurag@59.92.50.158] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=rjian_se@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MefistoRQ [n=MefistoR@adsl-ull-18-25.46-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:06] elkbuntu: good morning.. [02:06] elkbuntu: u there? [02:07] hmmm no ones here [02:08] I'm here [02:09] jenda: ping [02:09] somerville32: hello hehe can u point me to the logo guidelines? [02:10] Try speaking with the Ubuntu art team === somerville32 has no idea. [02:11] hehe ok thnx [02:11] rjian: google official ubuntu art [02:11] there should be a page on the team descrpition [02:11] Admiral_Chicago, Hey [02:11] Admiral_Chicago: hello [02:11] hello [02:12] What was with that really weird message on the ml? [02:12] i'm not on the mailing list, dunno [02:12] Admiral_Chicago: hehe finding guidelines for the logo because the loca Ubuntu-ph team logo is not qualified [02:12] a/loca/loCo [02:32] somerville32: u can check the propose logo to the trademark on the Ubuntu-ph team http://jucato.org/stuff/ubuntu-ph.png [02:32] Cool :] [02:32] somerville32: but not qualified :( [02:33] somerville32: any suggestion u can make? [02:34] I'm afraid I have nothing to do with artwork. [02:34] But I'll ask my art buddy [02:35] ...Who happens to be offline right now [02:35] hehe [02:35] You might e-mail the ubuntu-art team mailing list [02:35] I'm sure they'll be happy to give you pointers [02:42] somerville32: hehehe ok.. :) === rjian [n=chatzill@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru_ [n=poningru@pool-72-64-211-211.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === cellofellow [n=josh@geek-4.69-71-160-0.qwest.dsl.vcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=chatzill@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian is now known as rjian[lunch] [04:53] anybody interested in marketing Xubuntu, help out at http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/ubuntu/wiki === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-240-236.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:06] I saw somebody access it. What do you think? [05:08] lol [05:09] somerville32: not you cody I know you've seen it. :) [05:09] ;] === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian[lunch] is now known as rjian === abc [n=rjian_se@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === abc is now known as ghost === ghost is now known as rjian === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-211-211.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=chatzill@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === yama [n=yama@ubuntu/member/yama] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["kthxbye!"] === samiam [n=samurai@74-134-155-212.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B250A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MefistoRQ [n=MefistoR@adsl-ull-246-5.46-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=menza@last.fm/subscriber/pdpc.student.MenZa] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MefistoRQ [n=MefistoR@151.73.166.129] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:29] elkbuntu: you're on a mailing spree? :) [12:29] jenda, yep [12:29] I think Dan will be able to make it to the meeting. [12:29] Which is good. [12:29] I invited matthewrevell, too, having stumbled upon him. [12:30] But he'll probably not make it. [12:30] didnt expect he would === a7p [n=Albrecht@p54AE028C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:46] hi everyone, I just had a little chat @ubuntu-bugs ... and I'd like to suggest to introduce something like "A bug a week" ... one bug and it's symptoms get described and then it is shown how this particular bug was fixed ... [12:47] I don't know if it is a good idea to get more people into bugfixing and reporting ... but at least it's an idea. [12:47] a7p, have you put this past sfllaw? [12:48] elkbuntu, no, I've talked to hobbsee and she pointed me here. === MefistoRQ [n=MefistoR@151.73.162.47] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:49] a7p, ok. if you're unsure, talk to sfllaw, and see what he thinks the best way to go would be. if he thinks it's a good idea, and you are willing to maintain the section, then by all means, we can consider adding it :) [12:50] okay, I will talk to him ... (eventhough I think I am not able to maintain something that technically). [12:50] a7p: similar to debian package a week? [12:51] I could imagine that appearing in the UWN. [12:51] Admiral_Chicago, exactly only about bugs and how they got fixed. [12:51] i like the idea. === a7p too *g* [12:51] not sure about implementation, there are many ways to work it [12:52] i do too. however, i believe simon should get a say on how he thinks it would be most beneficial/effective [12:53] yup, I don't think they would have a problem with it however [12:53] you might also want to put a little: how it was triaged etc [12:53] not sure [12:53] i have finals to study for [12:53] @now chicag [12:54] @now chicago [12:54] see? [12:54] oh it doesn't work bit it's 5.54 here..... [12:54] yea [12:57] ubugtu does the time [12:57] elkbuntu, who do I best contact sfllaw? I just queried him - but no reaction (may be I should give him 5 or 6 hours). [12:58] a7p, he's in canada and it's 4am there [12:58] or so [12:59] what a weak excuse *g* ... [12:59] Denn du bist was du isst! Es ist mein Teil! [01:00] I'll put my jabber id in the query so he can answer when he wants. [01:00] https://launchpad.net/people/sfllaw [01:01] a7p: Indeed it is. [01:02] 7:00 AM for me in Canada, and haven't gone to bed yet [01:02] tonyyarusso, he's probably over your side of the icecube anyway [01:02] Icecube? [01:03] It's 4 degrees, in the middle of December! [01:03] i rest my case [01:03] We don't even have snow, in fact, it's supposed to rain today [01:03] Bloody weather [01:03] The snow should be up to my knees by now... [01:03] well thats ok, we're in for a 40'C summer [01:04] ewwwwwww === tonyyarusso would die [01:04] possibly literally [01:04] Well, lesse ours was [01:04] it was 35'C at 9:30pm the other day [01:04] Does ubotu do math? [01:04] 40 / 5 = 8, 8 * 9 = 72, 72 + 32 = 104 [01:04] no, google does though [01:05] Okay, yeah we go over that. [01:05] Last summer we hit 106 [01:05] But I usually crawl up in a ball in the basement and cry when that happens. [01:05] um.. who said 40 was the temp we 'hit'? [01:05] blargh [01:05] i mean we're looking to have a summer of almost 40 average [01:06] I remember being stranded in South Dakota when it was 110 [01:06] That was unpleasant [01:06] i bet [01:06] My comfort range is -40 - +75 deg F [01:07] heh, i prefer above freezing, but cold is better than hot [01:07] in a few weeks, nekkid will be over dressed [01:07] Depends on the situation. [01:07] You can always put more clothes on, but there's a limit to what you can take off [01:07] tonyyarusso, precisely [01:07] if you're lying in a tent with a tiny sleeping bag, I prefer hot. [01:07] :d [01:07] MenZa: Ewww === MenZa has been in that situation, freezing [01:07] lol [01:07] I have stains on my ThermARest from sweat in SD that summer [01:08] MenZa, i've been in that situation, on christmas eve, in an inch of rain [01:08] ow [01:08] well, the puddle was an inch deep anyhow [01:08] argg ... chrismas ... I still need to buy gifts ... :| [01:08] I've been tenting comfortably in -9 F (-20something C) [01:08] got mine done yesterday :D [01:10] MenZa, btw, the only reason i was sleeping in a puddle, is because cousins and brothers decided to peg lemons around for a dog to chase, and one was directed at the tent... so lemon + following dog rendered tent damaged :( [01:10] lol [01:10] That sucks :o [01:10] a7p: me too :\ [01:10] I have... two. [01:11] Another two, that is [01:11] You know what's really nice for winter camping though? Quinzees. [01:11] Sooooo warm [01:11] and cozy [01:11] a what? [01:12] Snow hut. You make a pile of snow, let is sit for a few hours to set, then hollow it out. [01:13] you canadians are weird [01:13] Try it some time [01:13] And I'm only kinda Canadian [01:19] why that, tonyyarusso? [01:19] jenda: Why kinda Canadian? [01:19] yep [01:20] I'm born, raised, and issued a passport in the USA. I'm going to school in Canada though (uni, 2nd year), and they actually _have_ an Ubuntu LoCo, so.... [01:21] cool ;) [01:21] I did my 12th year of high school in Canada [01:21] en franais :) [01:21] Plus, Minnesota's a blue state, _and_ north of where I am in Ontario, so it's like honorary Canada [01:21] lol [01:21] blue = democrats, right? [01:22] Yeah === MenZa nods [01:22] Just to confuse the world, since _everywhere_ _else_ blue is conservatives... [01:22] hehe [01:22] anyone here a FSF member? [01:22] including here. [01:22] Thought about it, xipietotec === jenda points at... he ain't here :) [01:23] Oh, and in our case, it's not just democrats, it's "Democratic Farmer Labor party" - our own little version; has to do with unique state political history stuff === xipietotec is joining today, they have some referral program, was going to put someone's # in [01:24] I should get some sleep [01:24] heh... [01:24] are you still up, or already up, tonyyarusso? [01:25] jenda: still [01:25] funky [01:25] yep [01:25] tonyyarusso, the US has a LoCo, that's splintered 20 ways to stupidity [01:25] Dan buch is your timezone, and he got up about an hour ago :) [01:25] So, the sun will be up soon, therefore I'm going down [01:25] tonyyarusso, that's right - hide from it. [01:25] elkbuntu: I'm not aware of any activity other than CO and NJ [01:26] tonyyarusso: there are quite a few. [01:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList?highlight=%28CategoryLoCoTeams%29 [01:26] tonyyarusso, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamsList [01:26] But do any of them DO anything? [01:26] AFAIK, Chicago is quite active. [01:27] Oh, and chicgo [01:27] tonyyarusso, proliferate more splinters === jenda points at nixternal [01:27] utah is a bit ok as well afaik === tonyyarusso checks whether anyone is in -midwest [01:27] Mmmmmm, me and ubotu [01:28] haha.. poke imbrandon to join his own damned loco then [01:28] see? No one lives in the midwest [01:28] I'll try during daylight hours sometime [01:28] Where's imbrandon from? [01:28] atoponce is the Utah guy... [01:28] Minnesota has a LP page, but no irc channel [01:29] huh....no one in #ubuntu-california either [01:29] careful about too many IRC channels, it can split the effort. [01:30] Dan Buch says 'lump, don't split' :) === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["No] [02:00] elkbuntu: yeah. we are very active, actually. meeting once a month, with ~15 members [02:01] our mailing list and forums are low activity though [02:01] atoponce, we = ? [02:01] utah loco team [02:01] aha, read up finally [02:01] :) === atoponce just got out of bed [02:02] no prob. [02:02] hey, i like your ubuntu counter. are you thinking of releasing the source to it? [02:03] atoponce, when/if i ever clean it up [02:03] :) [02:03] atoponce: I hope you don't want to decentralise it. [02:03] :) [02:03] np. just curious. [02:03] elkbuntu: you should follow the launchpad model ;) [02:03] jenda: i've been thinking of setting up a dvorak counter [02:03] woo :) [02:04] elkbuntu: please open up the source! :) [02:04] :) [02:04] jenda, atm, that's basically the reason. "it's not ready" [02:04] k [02:05] atoponce, it's a surprisingly simple model. it stores users, then counts the users. [02:06] elkbuntu: yeah. i was planning one out, and it didn't seem too bad, but then i thought, rather than reinvent the wheel, use another api, and improve it. :) [02:06] EEE [02:07] hmm [02:07] we might get a chance to appeal to the Culture ministry to use FLOSS === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === elkbuntu cheers for jenda [02:08] the CZLUG leader to the minister: "You probably aren't pleased with being the head of the best known organisation involved in software piracy in the country" [02:08] that's some cheek ;) [02:08] s/cheek/brazenness/ [02:09] nice === jenda waves at MitchM [02:12] you there? [02:12] wow... after a bit of research: [02:13] more than two thirds of their computers run illegal soft :) [02:13] ROFL [02:13] Go government. [02:13] why doesn't that surprise me? :) [02:14] 150-200 MS Win licences :) [02:14] mm [02:15] that's over a million CZK :) [02:15] rofl... [02:16] that's a chance for us. [02:17] meh... [02:17] not sure if we want them to use our wonderful OS [02:18] They were lent 25 PCs a few years ago by a company, and didn't return them when they were due... so the company billed for them, and they never paid. [02:21] nice [02:22] there are a couple employees at my work who have pirated software on their machines. [02:23] and ith it manager knows about it, but prefers to "forget" it [02:23] drives me nuts [02:23] s/ith/the/ [02:35] hehe [03:11] i don't get the statement "the US has a LoCo, that's splintered 20 ways to stupidity" [03:12] nixternal, your one country, has quite literally 10x the number of locos *ANY* other country does [03:13] and we have 10x the population as well [03:14] Ubuntu Chicago has a market of 9 million plus to reach alone [03:14] you have more population than china or india? [03:14] umm no [03:14] china has the whole of 2 locos, not 20 [03:14] india i believe has 1 [03:15] they cope fine [03:15] *that* was my point [03:15] ya, but i am willing to bet there are areas that aren't being targeted [03:15] screw it, i guarantee it [03:15] elkbuntu: india has more. [03:15] coping is one thing, effectively reaching the entire market is another [03:15] there's still areas that arent being targeted in the US, because there's people starting 1 person locos [03:15] and the loco teams are meant to be able to target their area. [03:16] I can't imagine a team properly managing the entire states. [03:16] well 1 person loco's is ignorant [03:16] jenda, no, but one team managing the chapters would be great [03:16] meh [03:16] ok [03:16] ;) [03:16] the only reason i started chicago is because we instantly had 40+ interested from the forums alone [03:17] why not illinois as a whole? [03:17] plus now I am the president of the LoCo, so now we have just kind of grew into one huge "Ubuntu Marketing" family in the Chicago land area [03:17] we are looking at becoming Ubuntu Illinois actually [03:17] cool, good [03:17] we have people in the center of the state now and the southern portion of the state === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:17] :) [03:18] so it only makes sense for us to become Illinois eventually [03:18] hi all [03:19] yo, jules. [03:19] :) [03:19] juliux: what's your email again? I had someone email @ubuntu.com, and it came back undelivered. [03:20] jenda, jbloch@ubuntu.com or jbloch@edubuntu.org are working but my main one is juliux@ubuntu-de.org [03:20] long live spam ;) [03:20] i have a greate spamfilter;) [03:20] k, will rememba for next time. [03:20] hehe [03:23] elkbuntu, in which channel is the marketing meeting? [03:24] juliux, um... i really dont know [03:24] elkbuntu, good answer;) [03:24] juliux, well... for as long as i've been with the team, there's not been a meeting [03:24] heh, we used to have a lot of "good" meetings [03:24] nixternal, people obtained lives [03:25] must be ;p [03:25] hey [03:25] what are you saying? i don't have a life now? ;p [03:25] you're one of the ones that does [03:25] well, i guess....tell me something i didn't know already [03:25] if i can't purchase it on amazon, then i don't need it ;) [03:25] you're part of the problem, man [03:26] always am, if you have an issue, please file a bug against it in malone [03:26] heh, now that would be one hell of a triagers nightmare...fixing "nixternal" bugs [03:27] but seriously, ompaul got a life and gnewsense, matthewrevell got a life and a canonical job, mdke... i dont know if he's on much anymore, but he got a life and a job [03:27] bah, i don't need all that...i got a life with school & ubuntu..that's enough for me [03:27] anymore and my head would explode [03:27] school lol ;) [03:28] ya, but i am double majoring now to finish my masters and another comp sci degree, and then possibly (haven't made up my mind yet) a phd in probably electrical engineering or comp sci [03:29] phd ? [03:29] at 32, i decided to finish everything, since the military is paying for everything...can't loose that opportunity [03:29] dr. or philosophy [03:30] which is scary to think about [03:41] thank god for musicbrainz [03:42] i converted all of my music to ogg last night (finally), and a lot of the tags were removed [03:53] musicbrainz rocks! i don't know what i'd do without it. i certainly wouldn't tag the files myself! ;) === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B250A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:04] ya, i just noticed the button for it in amarok and totally forgot i set that up many months back [04:11] so, am i to understand that the marketing meeting is in 10 hours and 49 minutes? [04:12] atoponce, i believe 30 hours. confirm with Burgwork if he ever regains consciousness [04:13] hmm. ok. trying to decipher if it's 12:01am is sat or sun === atoponce hates midnight for that reason. [04:19] jenda -- good sir? [04:20] MitchM: I was about to warn you about an email coming - it's already there, though. [04:20] lol k [04:21] jenda: Bah! More users. === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:30] well jenda -- It will be hard to get everyone to be able to read/write securely. [04:30] hmm [04:30] how dat? [04:30] Since apache needs to be a member of the group to read the web files. That means if I add "other" people to the group -- and allow them "Write" privs. [04:31] Then apache has write privs to the directory also. [04:31] which is (in my experience) never a good idea. [04:31] If you would like me to create a seperate "diy" account for general use. [04:31] I can do that [04:31] or I can proceed on with adding everyone to the group [04:32] and giving apache write access to the files [04:32] ok, then, just leave it as it is :) [04:32] k :) [04:32] and what abou the newuser "bueno" [04:32] ignore? [04:32] about* [04:38] MitchM: we'll just let him use the account there is now, if necessary. [04:38] Good. 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