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diegothegatekeeper, how long have you been using ubuntu for?12:23
hujciwdupeomg wireless blows in kubuntu, what a worthless crap12:23
matthewhujciwdupe, actually, it works quite well for me.12:23
crimsun_I know, we should all use whatever OS hujciwdupe wrote!!one12:23
matthewI'm using a ralink something or other...kinda sketchy under dapper, but rock-solid under edgy12:24
hujciwdupecrimsun_,and what os is that12:24
matthewhujciwdupe, crimsun_ is making a point12:24
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hujciwdupei dont see the point12:25
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gan|y|medhi12:25
matthewhujciwdupe, crimsun_ is saying "If you're not happy with it, then fix it. But don't complain about it.12:25
gan|y|medgot a problem with superkaramba12:26
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matthewbasically, do something constructive12:26
hujciwdupeyeah, i am , im installing windows right now12:26
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crimsun_that's brilliant, but I don't think we really care about Windows here.12:27
gan|y|medhad it installed, worked fine. installed themes (particularly wikipedia search). then superkaramba crashed. since then i can install scripts, just not some (like wikipedia) that were installed before. reinstall and removal didn't work either12:27
Chousukehujciwdupe: Don't blame your incompetence on the OS :)12:27
gan|y|medany ideas?12:27
hujciwdupenot my fault it doesnt work12:27
TheGateKeeperdiego, for about a year now, I actually dual boot & most of the time use gentoo12:27
diegocan't help sorry, i'm struggling on installing firrefox and amsn12:28
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diegoi see, is gentoo better?12:28
Koshtanhi yaall12:28
OkinawaInstructoi run duel o/s on one computer (windows and Kubuntu) i loaded windows and lost access to linux, how can i fix it so when i turn on the computer i get the choice of which o/s i want?12:28
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matthewhujciwdupe, but you could either find a card that works automatically under kubuntu, or you can do a little bit of work to get wifi working.12:28
gan|y|meduse a live cd and grub it12:28
vgenever mix jelly to butter12:29
matthewOkinawaInstructo, you need to reinstall GrUB12:29
Xubuntianguys12:29
Xubuntiani am surprised12:29
Xubuntianlook here12:29
matthewOkinawaInstructo, give me a sec, I'll get you a link.12:29
Xubuntianhttp://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130058247670&fromMakeTrack=true12:29
Xubuntiansorry :)12:29
Xubuntianwrong link12:29
matthewlol12:29
Xubuntianhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE1XQyT_IbA12:29
Xubuntianthis one12:29
OkinawaInstructoXubuntian: thank you12:29
TheGateKeepercrimsun_, DaSkreech  which bright spark emasculated the wiki? There used to be loads of usefull stuff which all seem to have diappeared, can't even find the howto install firefox 2 on dapper12:29
DaSkreechDink: Hiya12:30
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TheGateKeeperdisappeared*12:30
gan|y|medhey guys, nothing about superkaramba??12:30
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DaSkreechTheGateKeeper: Well if it was a bright enough spark I would blame the wicki12:30
hujciwdupematthew, my card is detected fine12:30
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diegoi cant even install flash player :(12:30
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matthewhujciwdupe, do you have dhcp enabled?12:31
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matthewOkinawaInstructo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:31
TheGateKeeperdiego, http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes  <-- lots of usefull stuff there12:31
hujciwdupematthew, yup12:31
diegothegatekeeper, thank you ill try it12:32
matthewhujciwdupe, do you have eth0 enabled? (eth0 is the ethernet link)12:32
TheGateKeeperdiego, gentoo is basically building linux from scratch, but once you have done it, it's very easy to keep up to date12:32
hujciwdupematthew,disabled12:32
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matthewhujciwdupe, are you using wlassistant to try to connect to your network?12:32
diegoso you've got to do it by yourself?12:33
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diegothe whole os thing*12:33
hujciwdupematthew, yup . i already hate that app12:33
Xubuntiandiego: sei tu?12:33
Xubuntiandiego: sono taglia12:33
matthewhujciwdupe, I know what you mean12:33
vgewhat's the easiest way to make a "back up disket"? that i could run to gain access to disks?12:33
matthewhujciwdupe, try using a static IP address.12:33
matthewhujciwdupe, what's the IP of your network? Probably something like 192.168.1.*12:34
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eilkerhow can i have whole man pages ? not only from console, pdf prefable :)12:34
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hujciwdupematthew, i did , the problem is the encryprion key12:34
TheGateKeeperdiego, yep12:34
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matthewhujciwdupe, ah...wep or wpa?12:34
diegoxubuntian, is that italian? :s i do spanish and a little portuguese and a little french12:34
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hujciwdupematthew,wep12:35
TheGateKeeperdiego, have a look at the url in the pm, if you want to talk more we can talk there12:35
diegothegatekeeper, i tried downloading to install it but couldn't be bothered to install it yet, i can't talk there12:35
matthewhujciwdupe, in network settings, did you tell it that ra0 is a wep-encrypted link? There should be a field to fill in...12:35
matthewwith the code.12:36
hujciwdupematthew, nope havent seen any setting like that ,12:36
matthewhujciwdupe, ok...here we go!12:36
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ubuntuhi someone plz12:36
ubuntuif i want to install kubuntu12:37
matthewhujciwdupe, go into network settings and click the administrator button12:37
ubuntudo i need /usr partiotion?12:37
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matthewhujciwdupe, type in the password12:37
hujciwdupematthew,  ive been there many times , there is no option like that12:37
fnord5!cron12:37
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm12:37
matthewhujciwdupe, at the bottom, you may need to scroll down.12:37
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matthewhujciwdupe, if you still can't find it, try sudo kcontrol12:38
fnord5do i need cron for anything?12:38
matthewin a terminal, of course12:38
hujciwdupematthew, i know where the admin is , but no option to choose wep or wpa or whatever12:38
matthewhujciwdupe, you need to select ra0 in the list, then click "Configure" down below12:38
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matthewhujciwdupe, actually "Configure Interface" button12:39
hujciwdupematthew, when i click that it only lets me put in the network name and the key, and the ip configs12:39
matthewok, h/o12:39
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fnord5is ok to disable cron or rsync?12:41
matthewhujciwdupe, ok...I'm not on a box w/ wireless right now...so...ok, try going into wlassistant and right-clicking the network name and "forget settings"12:41
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hujciwdupematthew, and12:41
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digitalfreedomany one here good with nessus?12:41
ninHerhi all12:42
matthewhujciwdupe, try letting me know when you have done what I asked...it speeds up the process. I'm not trying to be rude, honest.12:42
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matthewhujciwdupe, then click on the network name and select automatic, then it should ask for a network key...12:42
hujciwdupematthew,just tell me the whole thing , i have to go down to the besement , thats where that pc is12:43
matthewhujciwdupe, ok...I think that's it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.12:43
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hujciwdupematthew, ok , what do i do after clearing the settings?12:44
matthewhujciwdupe, then click on the network name and select automatic, then it should ask for a network key...12:45
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hujciwdupematthew, ok , which format is the network key supose to be in?12:46
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eilker!lightscribe12:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:46
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matthewhujciwdupe, if your passcode is just a word or something, then its ascii12:47
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bluehi guys, im trying to share the internet connection on my ubuntu box to another pc. the other pc can obtain an ip address from my ubuntu box, the other pc cannot browse the web12:47
hujciwdupematthew, yeh i tried all that many times , but im gonna go do it again , where do i specify to use wep , can it even use wpa?12:48
fnord5what the command lineterm to display all running processes?12:48
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fnord5also ktorrent keeps crashing every tim i start it,any help???12:48
ibertin which packet can I find "mail" for the command line?12:49
bgsteffensi bought a brand new drive, put it into my main kubuntu machine, formatted and created an ext3 partition, copied over a couple hundred gb of data, then moved it to my server (xubuntu) and xubuntu sees the partition filesystem as 'unknown'12:49
bgsteffensany ideas?12:49
fnord5come on i know someone here know the answere to at least one of my questions!!12:50
hujciwdupefnord5, u can use the ksystemguard to view processes12:51
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hujciwdupefnord5, or ksysguard or something like that12:51
JohnFluxfnord5: press ctrl+esc12:52
JohnFluxfnord5: on the command line you can use  top or ps12:52
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BluesKajktorrent has a new version that is stable12:53
BluesKaj!ktorrent12:53
ubotuktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB12:53
bgsteffensnobody has any ideas what could be wrong with my drive?12:53
JohnFluxhujciwdupe: search for my masquerading made simple howto on google12:53
JohnFluxhujciwdupe:  first hit ;-)12:54
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matthewhujciwdupe, ok, I'm back. Sorry I was away...I'm at work. ok, how did that work? were you able to connect using the passcode? Remember, plain text is ascii, and stuff like "0cFF87DE" is Hex.12:55
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hujciwdupematthew, i havent tried yet , im gonna go do it right now,  i dont see the option to choose wep or wpa ,12:57
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hujciwdupematthew, other problem is that the wireass app wont show any netwoks untill i specify the name of the network , even tho its broadcasted12:59
BluesKajdon't choose wep, wpa is much more secure01:00
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matthewhujciwdupe, try clicking "Refresh"...01:05
eilkercould anyone paste pls from his fstab // /dev/fd0> /media/fd0  users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0  // i have this sth wrong with it, dapper drake here01:05
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eilkeri have problem with fd001:06
eilkerkate /etc/fstab01:06
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xherr4hello01:07
eilkerhi01:07
BluesKajsudo kate /etc/fstab01:07
eilkerblueskaj: kdesu kate /etc/fstab will be better01:08
BluesKajyup01:08
eilkerblueskaj: anyway could you tell me that line from your fstab pls01:08
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eilkerthe line with fd001:08
BluesKajhang on01:09
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wimpieshi all, any openoffice 2.1 packages for edgy >01:09
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matthewhujciwdupe, try clicking "Refresh" within the wlassistant program.01:11
BluesKajeilker, no line with fd001:13
eilkerblueskaj: so u dont have floopy ?01:13
hujciwdupematthew, yeah , im fuckin pissed, this thing doesnt even want to list my network anymore , not to mention other networks that are around my house01:14
BluesKajnope01:14
eilkerblueskaj: i see ,thanx..01:14
digitalfreedomnessus anyone?01:14
eilkerdigitalfreedom:  i had it01:14
digitalfreedomi need some hlp01:15
eilkerlet me try if i can01:15
BluesKajwas an oversight when i ordered my pc ...I have 2 floppy drives sitting here on the shelf but I haven't bothered installing01:15
digitalfreedomok when im not getting a faild login to nessud im an ssl error01:15
matthew!language01:15
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:15
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matthewhujciwdupe, ok, why don't you go ahead and type in the name of the wireless network in the configuration portion.01:16
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hujciwdupematthew, i did, now it doesnt show it either,  it shows it whenever it wants to01:16
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crimsoncan anyone talk me through a couple small things?01:17
hujciwdupematthew, i know the signal quality is good , so thats not the problem01:17
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matthewhujciwdupe, hmm, in the network settings -> configure interface, is the box for "Activate on startup" checked?01:18
Alter-Egocrimson, don't ask, just ask01:18
matthew!anyone | crimson01:18
ubotucrimson: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:18
hujciwdupematthew,yes01:18
matthewhujciwdupe, hmmm, I'm all out of ideas. Try kubuntuforums.net01:18
hujciwdupematthew, olrighty , thank you01:19
crimsoni'm attempting to install a plugin and i'm having a hard time understanding the way the cd command is used.01:19
crimsonand also how to find and convey the location of the package's source code through the cd command01:20
Alter-Egochange directory ?01:20
crimsonyeah01:20
Alter-Egocd /01:20
Alter-Egocd ~01:20
Alter-Egocd /home/crimson01:20
Alter-Egopwd - present working directory01:21
Alter-Egols - listing of directory contents01:21
crimsonit says that no directory exists when i do the syntax to the package folder01:21
Alter-Egor u in konsole ?01:22
Alter-Egoi assume01:22
crimsonyeah01:22
digitalfreedomgo to the place where you want to install the pkg then run it01:22
Alter-Egowhere is it supposed to be ?01:22
matthewhujciwdupe, no prob01:22
crimsoni don't know where i want it installed01:23
crimsonwherever is default01:23
crimsoni just want it installed01:23
Alter-Egor u using adept ?01:23
digitalfreedomwhats the pkg?01:23
crimsonyeah01:23
Alter-Egoor is the package in adept01:23
crimsonits the xine plugin01:23
crimsonit isn't an adept package01:23
digitalfreedomoh well just let adept do the work01:23
digitalfreedomoh01:23
Alter-Egoyes01:23
digitalfreedombut yo ucan find the xine pkg on adept01:24
Alter-Egowhat plugin in xine is it ?01:24
crimsonits the d5d01:24
crimsonvideo support01:24
binary2k2crimson: what was the file you downloaded?01:24
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crimsonits xine-d5d-0.2.7.01:25
crimsonits was compressed, now it is a folder by that name01:25
Alter-Egoah, i understand now01:25
binary2k2crimson: did it have .tar.gz as the extention?01:25
crimsonyeah01:25
binary2k2crimson: have you unpacked it yet?01:25
digitalfreedom./configure time01:25
Alter-Egoi suspect that now that it is in a folder your wanting to move it to the xine plugin folder ?01:25
crimsonyeah01:26
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DaSkreechI like kaffiene now :)01:26
binary2k2crimson: if you type ls "xine-d5d-0.2.7" do you see a listing?01:26
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crimsontype it in konsole?01:26
binary2k2yeah01:27
digitalfreedomyes konsole is kin crimson01:27
digitalfreedomking*01:27
crimsonit just says command not found01:27
crimsonwhoops01:27
crimsontypo01:27
binary2k2the command is: ls xine-d5d-0.2.701:27
crimsonno such file or dir01:28
binary2k2ok01:28
digitalfreedomtry whereis xine01:28
binary2k2type: ls xine-<TAB>01:28
binary2k2where <TAB>01:28
binary2k2is the actual tab key01:28
crimsonjust makes a beep noise01:28
binary2k2try pressing it twice in quick succession01:29
crimsonwhereis xine worked01:29
Alter-Ego /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.201:29
digitalfreedombravo now just unpack/compile yer plugin there01:30
digitalfreedomor mv the folder01:30
crimsonwhats the syntax for unpacking it there?01:30
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binary2k2cd to /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.201:31
binary2k2then run: sudo tar xzf ~/xine-d5d-0.2.7.tar.gz01:31
crimsonit says no such file or directory01:31
binary2k2if the file is saved in your home dir01:32
crimsongotcha01:32
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digitalfreedomor to save typing all that add an * after xine01:33
digitalfreedomits a wild card char01:33
digitalfreedomvery handy01:33
digitalfreedomfor saving keystrokes01:33
crimsongoing to far01:33
crimsoni still cant cd to the dir01:33
Alter-Ego<tabing> works as well01:33
crimsonit says it doesnt exist01:33
Alter-Egomv .hidden .hidden.old01:33
binary2k2crimson: is it a .tar.gz or some other type? eg .tgz01:34
crimsontar.gz01:34
digitalfreedomdo i have to install fork? like i had to to do finger and whois?01:34
crimsoner, i mean .tgz01:34
binary2k2then replace tar.gz with tgz in the tar command01:35
crimsoni haven't used a tar command01:35
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Alter-Egocrimson, can you cd to that directory ?01:35
crimsonno01:35
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binary2k2that's how you extract the archive01:35
digitalfreedomgunzip is handy as well01:35
Alter-Egocan you cd past your home directory ?01:36
digitalfreedomi cant fork nothing01:36
digitalfreedom:(01:36
Alter-Egofor example, cd ~ and then cd ../01:36
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crimsonokay01:37
Alter-Egocan you get to the root directory ?01:37
crimson?01:38
Alter-Egoso when you do an ls, you see /bin, /boot, etc.01:38
Alter-Egoif you do a pwd, where does it show you at ?01:38
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crimsonhome01:38
binary2k2crimson: what do you get if you run: ls -ld /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.201:38
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crimsonno file or directory01:39
Alter-Egobinary2k2 i think his problem is the .hidden file in edgy that is hiding the directory structure01:39
binary2k2Alter-Ego: it doesn't effect terminals tho01:39
binary2k2crimson: what's the out put of: ls /usr/lib/xine/plugins/01:40
Alter-Egooh01:40
crimsonnothing01:40
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binary2k2Alter-Ego: I haven't bothered to change the /.hidden yet, and I can still see everything in / with ls, just not with konq01:41
Alter-Egooh01:41
binary2k2crimson: you may have to make the directory first then01:41
crimsonjust make it with that exact name, and then move the .tgz file there, and extract it?01:42
binary2k2yeah01:43
binary2k2cd /usr/lib/xine/plugins/01:43
goodthingcan anyone try and help me with adding a hard disk? I have tried to documentate my previous steps here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37268/01:43
binary2k2sudo mkdir 1.1.201:43
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crimsonthanks for the help01:44
binary2k2:)01:44
crimsonill check in later when i do it01:44
crimsongotta go for now01:44
binary2k2lucky I can't sleep ay :p01:44
bgsteffensquestion - when cfdisk shows an FS Type of 'Linux' instead of 'Linux ext3' - what do i put as the type when mounting it?01:44
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binary2k2bgsteffens: what did you format it as?01:46
bgsteffensi thought ext3 but it won't mount as that01:47
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DaSkreechAnyone uses xpenguins?01:48
binary2k2have you tried just: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" and see if it will work that way? (replace hda1 with the real partition tho)01:48
goodthingDaSkreech:  never heard of it01:48
BluesKajDaSkreech, what are xpenguins?01:48
DaSkreechcheck adept01:48
goodthinganyone reading my stupid story?01:49
binary2k2Description: little penguins walk on your windows01:49
DaSkreechI installed it about three weeks ago still can't get it to work01:49
BluesKajawwc c'mon you can tell us01:49
DaSkreechYeah01:49
bgsteffensmount: you must specify the filesystem type01:49
DaSkreechgoodthing: What story?01:49
goodthingthe url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37268/01:49
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BluesKaj!xpenguins01:49
ubotuxpenguins: little penguins walk on your windows. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2-4 (edgy), package size 218 kB, installed size 1316 kB01:49
goodthingabout my hard disk adventure01:49
bgsteffensneither ext2 nor ext3 works, they return 'wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock, missing codepage, or other error'01:49
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binary2k2bgsteffens: how did you format it?01:49
bgsteffenswell i used cfdisk to create the partition01:50
DaSkreechgoodthing: TIA?01:50
bgsteffensi couldn't find ext3 so i just did linux01:50
bgsteffensbut it mounted on the computer i was doing it on01:50
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matthewbgsteffens, if you don't care about the data, try sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/device_name01:50
bgsteffensit's 200+ gb of all my data >_<01:50
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matthewoh.01:51
matthewlol01:51
bgsteffenslol that's why i haven't just done that ;P01:51
matthewbgsteffens, oh, ok01:52
BluesKajbgsteffens, I recommend GParted Live CD for setting up resizing , moving partitions for Linx and Windows01:52
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BluesKajlinux of course01:52
DaSkreechgoodthing: *poke*01:52
bgsteffensok01:53
bgsteffensso no ideas on how to check a filesystem type as it relates to mount command?01:53
matthewbgsteffens, I'm not sure this would work, but try fsck01:54
matthewsudo, of course01:54
matthewsudo fsck /dev/device name01:54
bgsteffenswon't mess up data?01:54
matthewonly if it's mounted01:54
binary2k2bgsteffens: umm, if you do something like "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=testfile bs=1024 count=4" then "file testfile" you may get a hint to the filesystem01:54
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binary2k2I did that for my hda1 and got: testfile: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data01:55
matthewfsck might output what type of fs it is.01:55
bgsteffensadministrator@server:/media/longterm$ sudo fsck /dev/hda101:55
bgsteffensfsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)01:55
bgsteffense2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)01:55
bgsteffensCouldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...01:55
bgsteffensfsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda101:56
bgsteffensThe superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext201:56
bgsteffensfilesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext201:56
bgsteffensfilesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock01:56
bgsteffensis corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:01:56
bgsteffens    e2fsck -b 8193 <device>01:56
bgsteffenssorry >_< lol01:56
DaSkreechSo no one has gotten xpenguins to work?01:56
DaSkreechMan so much stuff needs updating in the repos :(01:56
matthewbgsteffens, ok, have you tried binary2k2's solution?01:56
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JohnFluxDaSkreech: hmm?01:56
goodthingDaSkreech: sorry, i was out for toilet and tea. TIA= thanks in advance01:57
bgsteffensfile testfile returns: 'testfile: data'01:57
DaSkreechHA ha01:57
esaymanyone good with xorg and ati01:57
esaym?01:57
esaymi have a res in the xorg.conf that i cant use but i could use in windows01:57
esaym1400x1050 @7601:57
JohnFluxDaSkreech: to run xpenguins, you need to configure the desktop and allow programs to access the background01:58
esaymright now no matter what i do i cant get anything higher then 1280x102401:58
DaSkreechJohnFlux: How?01:58
esaymhas anyone seen this problem before? i cant find any info01:58
esaym9700 pro btw01:58
JohnFluxDaSkreech: right click on the desktop, configure desktop01:58
BluesKajesaym, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head01:58
LjLesaym: you might have sync rates in your xorg.conf that are too low, and xorg refuses to use that resolution01:58
LjLesaym: if you have your monitor's specs (should be in the user manual), you can put them into xorg conf01:58
JohnFluxDaSkreech: Behaviour tab01:59
esaymfglrx is installed01:59
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esaymi have the h and v specs in the xorg.comfig01:59
JohnFluxDaSkreech: then allow programs access to background or something01:59
LjLesaym: otherwise what i'd advice is a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and when it asks you to choose refresh rates, select the "intermediate" (or whatever it's called - but not the "basic" or "advanced") setting, and tell it 1400x1050 @ some Hz that you know your monitor can take01:59
kamui_i've been having a problem with my usb, it seems that devices plugged in are running at 1.1 speeds.   Is there a way to check what driver my usb host hardware is being controlled by?  I think if memory serves me it should be ehci for usb 2.001:59
BluesKajesaym, the open source driver might accomodate yer high expectations for resolution02:00
DaSkreechJohnFlux: Right. And that doesn't work But at least I have path now02:00
esaymlet me try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again02:00
esaymbrb02:01
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goodthingdamn, i might have spend 400 euro for a hard disk and a hard disk silencer for nothing. iSuck (tm)02:03
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DaSkreechgoodthing: It comes up in the BIOS right?02:06
goodthingyeah, prefectly02:07
goodthing*perfectly02:07
goodthinglooking at the live-cd the /dev/sd* locations just get switched somehow02:07
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goodthingi suspect that grub is working with wrong paths by that, but my knowledge stops there02:08
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DaSkreechLive CD works fine?02:10
DaSkreechgoodthing: Well edgy does have upstart02:10
goodthinguhm, yeah live-cd boots although the /dev/sd* paths are weird02:11
goodthingsomehow SATA1 and SATA3 get switched every time02:11
goodthingin live that is ok i guess, but from the disk it is a problem02:12
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binary2k2the sd* devices are made in order of detection, so i think it depends on a mixture of the kernel and udev02:12
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DaSkreechgoodthing: Which grub is it booting from?02:13
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goodthingDaSkreech: i have no idea, the grub from edgy i guess. Should i look?02:13
goodthingalready looking...02:14
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BluesKajanyone running a network with windows pcs at home or at work ? ...I'm trying to make wife's windows pc work with samba on this kubuntu box, but her pc keeps asking for user and pw ...it doesn't accept the one I've stored in her pc's hostfile02:15
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goodthingDaSkreech: 0.97-11ubuntu1402:16
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binary2k2BluesKaj: what is the security part set as in smb.conf ?02:17
binary2k2I have a working network with an XP box at home02:17
DaSkreechgoodthing: What happens if you remove all the drive s but the new one?02:18
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BluesKajbinary2k2, my smb.conf is blank !02:18
goodthingDaSkreech: then all goes without a single problem, even if i add one the two other disk it does smooth02:18
goodthing*goes02:19
goodthingthird disk= problem somehow02:19
DaSkreechthird disk == ?02:19
DaSkreechoriginal boot drive?02:20
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binary2k2BluesKaj: have you tried using the setup in system settings?02:20
goodthingnope, i put edgy (which works) on SATA1, this works. Then i put one of the two older disks at SATA2 and this still goes without a problem02:21
goodthingthe problem starts when i put a third SATA disk in system02:21
DaSkreechAnyone of them?02:22
goodthingyep02:22
goodthingwhich one does not matter02:22
DaSkreechAh Maybe a MB problem then?02:22
binary2k2do you have to set the jumpers on SATA disks?02:22
goodthingthat would be insane, this motherbord is like two years old02:22
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BluesKajyes binary2k2 , I have, but the terms are difficult to understand02:23
DaSkreechYeah Sata isn't the most bug free technology in the world02:23
DaSkreechsataI or sataII ?02:23
goodthingbinary2k2: nope, comes jumpersless, the new 750 disk has a jumper for SATA2 300gbit/s and SATA2 150gbit/s mode though. (does not make a diference)02:23
goodthing202:24
DaSkreechbinary2k2: No Sata has one device perchannel02:24
binary2k2just askin :p02:24
DaSkreechbinary2k2: Just informing02:24
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BluesKajbinary2k2, what's the best settings to use in the share settings ..simple sharing or advanced ?02:25
DaSkreechWhat sata chipset?02:25
goodthingthe hard part: the motherbord maker (asus) has stopped updating his BIOS almost a year ago02:25
goodthingone year support i got(!) where the MB was just out02:26
binary2k2BluesKaj: that's just alowind users at setup shares, not access them, simple lets any user share anything in it home, advanced sets permission to share per user (I use simple)02:26
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goodthingi think one year yes02:26
DaSkreechSounds about right02:26
BluesKajok cool binary2k2..I'll do that02:27
goodthingright? well, not if i still comes with bugs not02:27
binary2k2BluesKaj: this is what my smb.conf is like with an example share in it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37274/02:27
goodthingat least, it looks like it for now02:28
goodthinghmm, or not, the live-cd just work....\02:28
DaSkreechgoodthing: Didn't say the MB had faults02:28
DaSkreech SATA itself is an incomplete technology02:28
goodthingso "they" release an incomplete product on the public :s02:30
binary2k2microsoft do it all the time :p02:30
DaSkreechgoodthing: It's mostly good02:30
goodthingthey all do it i guess02:30
goodthingbut when it hurts you it's no fun02:31
DaSkreechIt's stuff like having 4 controllers or sharing channels sends it crazy02:31
binary2k2the linux kernel itself is incomplete02:31
binary2k2work in progress02:31
DaSkreechWhich was to be taken care of in SATA II but they spent a lot of time on timing stuff and less on organization02:31
DaSkreech SATA II *should* be much better02:31
goodthingwell, i have waited for sataII to buy this board and disks back then02:32
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DaSkreechHi Jucato02:32
BluesKajbinary2k2, why would my smb.conf file be blank ...I don't get it :P02:33
goodthingsometimes i ask myself why i would my own systems....02:33
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Jucatohi DaSkreech02:33
binary2k2BluesKaj: I don't know, I set mine up over a year ago, don't remember if it was empty, I just drag it from distro to distro02:33
BluesKajis it cuz I'm also using komba2 to link my network ?02:34
binary2k2maybe, it could have killed your smb.conf, but I don't use it so I can't say02:35
binary2k2BluesKaj: SWAT (Samba Wab Administration Tool) is I think waht I used to set mine up02:36
binary2k2bit like webmin02:36
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BluesKajok thx ...wifes asleep already due to her early shifts ,, pc is in her bedroom ... we're an old married (40yrs together) couple02:37
DaSkreechFor somereason I read pregnant in that sentence02:37
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goodthinghehe02:38
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BluesKajshe's retiring in may... I'll put linux on her new pc02:38
binary2k2ftp can be so much easier :p02:39
BluesKajSWAT ...here we go02:39
DaSkreechJohnFlux: You got it working?02:39
JohnFluxhmm what?02:39
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kpenrosehas anyone installed xemacs on 6.10 and gotten it to work?02:40
BluesKajbinary2k2, I really don't need to have access to this box from her pc ..but i want to have all options available :)02:40
DaSkreechJohnFlux: xpenguins02:40
JohnFluxoh i didn't play with it02:40
DaSkreech:-(02:41
goodthingDaSkreech: what do you think, should i file a bug report for this?02:41
binary2k2BluesKaj: I know what you mean, I hardly ever need to access the this box from the windows one, but there's bound to be that one time I will :p02:41
DaSkreechgoodthing: Again I think that it's a SATA thing but what can we use to eliminate that?02:42
BluesKajI can do it from the windows partition if need be02:42
DaSkreechbinary2k2: putty?02:43
binary2k2DaSkreech: yeah, I use that mostly02:43
goodthingDaSkreech: not much i guess, i think could have tried installing windowsxp..., but then it would not detect the other two disks because of the file systems...02:43
binary2k2DaSkreech: but sometimes it's easier to "mount the network drive" on windows02:43
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jorge_hola necesito ayuda dee ubuntu02:45
goodthingbut maybe it would at least view the disks, hmm, would that say anything?02:45
crimsun_jorge_: #kubuntu-es02:46
jorge_ok gracias02:46
crimsun_de nada02:46
DaSkreechhow many sata connectors are there?02:47
goodthingDaSkreech: four for single use, four for raid02:47
goodthingand two IDE02:47
DaSkreechWht happens if you put on on the raid?02:47
goodthingdestroy my data i guess02:48
goodthingafaik raid needs to be used from the start of making "partitions"02:49
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DaSkreechYou can't JBOD it?02:49
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goodthingi have no idea what that is, i've only heard of it02:51
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carloshello, i am running kubuntu 5.10. I'd like to update it to 6.10... what's the update process?02:53
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[Relic] Anyone install firefox 2.0?02:54
binary2k2carlos: upgrade to 6.06 then to 6.1002:54
carlosand what i have to do?02:54
carlosand can't it be one shot? I mean from 5.10 to 6.10 is just 12 months :P02:54
binary2k2carlos: no, you really can't jump like that without messing things up02:55
binary2k2carlos: follow the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades then at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades02:55
Jucato!upgrade02:56
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:56
Jucatouse that one for upgrading from Dapper to Edgy ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^02:56
[Relic] !firefox02:56
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins02:56
carlosAw. I am goign to need to download like 1gb02:56
binary2k2yeah :p02:57
binary2k2but it's the only safe way02:57
carloswhy couldn't i choose a rolling release distro02:57
binary2k2and i use safe quite loosely :p02:57
binary2k2because kubuntu has support cycles02:58
carlosWell I don't need upgrading so badly. I am happy where I am. Is good to have 3.4 KDE and 1.0.7 firefox.02:58
binary2k2as dose ubutnu02:58
binary2k2I like KDE 3.5.5 and firefox 2.002:59
binary2k2but I'll soon got o feisty and see what thats got02:59
carlospure markettng :P02:59
binary2k2nope, BUG FIXES :D02:59
binary2k2lots and lots of bug fises03:00
binary2k2*fixes03:00
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carlosI have kubuntu on my laptop and arch on my desktop. I like arch and its package management system (very fast and easy to update after real long periods of time). But I like kubuntu for its easyness. XD03:02
goodthinghmm, and raid was a problem with the firmware version of one of my maxtor disks. Of course that firmware needs to be updates from inside windows.03:03
DaSkreechgoodthing: Just A bunch of disks03:04
goodthingyeah i know, already looked it up03:04
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mankeletorhi all03:04
DaSkreechgoodthing: Essentially the same thign as disabling RAID03:04
carloswell03:05
carlosthanks for the help03:05
carlosGotta run.03:05
binary2k2cya03:05
carlostata binary2k203:05
mankeletorhow can I do for install yakuake in kubuntu? (sorry for the stupid question, im new with this distro)03:05
goodthingi could use raid ir jbod for the two maxtors, there are almost the same disks, only the age is a little different. But i yet do not trust my new disk to carry all my data03:05
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binary2k2mankeletor: either use adept or "sudo apt-get install yakuake"03:06
DaSkreechOf course03:07
DaSkreechreal men use Windows03:07
goodthing!03:07
goodthingare you sick?03:07
DaSkreechno Maxtor is03:07
DaSkreechmankeletor: Do you have universe enabled?03:08
mankeletorDaSkreech: universe enabled?03:09
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DaSkreechmankeletor: New to Kubuntu or new to LInux?03:09
binary2k2mankeletor: have you used debian before?03:09
goodthingi agree03:09
mankeletornever03:10
mankeletori used slackware03:10
binary2k2ahh03:10
DaSkreechmankeletor: Ah03:10
DaSkreechreal men use slackware03:10
binary2k2from the top then03:10
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mankeletorDaSkreech: lol03:10
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DaSkreechmankeletor:03:10
mankeletorDaSkreech: I have compiled a lot of packages for slack03:11
DaSkreechDebian breaks the packages into catefories03:11
DaSkreech!universe03:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:11
DaSkreechYou can read more there03:11
DaSkreechbut in short yakuake is not maintained by Ubuntu so it's in the universe packages03:11
mankeletorDaSkreech: It's called series in slackware03:12
DaSkreechmankeletor: I take it you have no preference between cli or GUI?03:12
DaSkreechmankeletor: Hmm I'll note that03:12
binary2k2on slack, he must be a cli veteran :p03:12
mankeletorxD03:12
DaSkreechbinary2k2: doesn't mean he prefers it :)03:13
binary2k2why wouldn't you tho, gotta love hat console :D03:13
binary2k2s/hat/that/03:13
DaSkreechThey need a gui SED :)03:14
binary2k2search and replace03:14
binary2k2uses regxp too03:14
DaSkreechblast03:14
DaSkreechdoes KDE do everything right!?!?!?03:14
binary2k2YES!!03:14
binary2k2:p03:14
DaSkreechNo DaSkreech of kourse they dont03:15
DaSkreechgoodthing: if you can do JBOD in RAID they don't need to be the same03:15
mankeletorDaSkreech: gui is nice :)03:15
DaSkreechok press Alt+Space03:16
DaSkreechtype adept03:16
DaSkreechpress enter03:16
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binary2k2of you have katapult03:16
binary2k2alt-f2 to get a run dialog03:16
DaSkreechs/of/oof :)03:16
mankeletorDaSkreech: Do I need to add more repositories to Adept?03:16
binary2k2yes, I was about to do that :p03:16
DaSkreechmankeletor: yes I was going to walk you through it03:16
binary2k2shame konversation doesn't have sed tho :p03:17
DaSkreechubotu should03:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about should - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:17
mankeletorAdept is a GUI for apt-get?03:17
DaSkreechI think apt does03:17
DaSkreechShut bot bot!03:17
DaSkreechmankeletor: Yup03:17
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DaSkreechwhat's the opposite of botsnack?03:17
binary2k2!botsnack03:17
ubotuYum!03:17
binary2k2!botslap03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:18
DaSkreechdon't feed the thing!03:18
binary2k2aww :p03:18
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binary2k2maybe I'll send a new feature request for a botslap03:19
DaSkreechPlease do03:19
DaSkreech and make it karmaed03:19
DaSkreechmankeletor: You can let me know when it's open :)03:20
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binary2k2nano is much easier to add sources with03:20
binary2k2have i mentioned that i hate adept?03:20
DaSkreechyeah but he asked for GUI :)03:20
binary2k2synaptic :p03:21
DaSkreechwhat's the adept hate for?03:21
tony__hello. how can i creat a CD image ( recovery  ) of my new linux installation ?03:21
binary2k2but you need to install it with adept :p03:21
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binary2k2DaSkreech: I just dislike the GUI and it's not as powerful as synaptic IMO03:21
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DaSkreechHmm I always get lost in Synaptic03:22
DaSkreechNot more powerful how?03:22
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mankeletorDaSkreech: Im on it, Im seeing the repository manager03:22
tony__hello. how can i creat a CD image ( recovery  ) of my new linux installation ?03:22
binary2k2with synaptic you can hold packages, force versions, download changelogs and other stuff too03:23
DaSkreechright go down to the line that has edgy (I assume this is edgy) and universe03:23
DaSkreechNot edgy-backports03:23
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DaSkreechbinary2k2: touche that's my exact wishlist for adept03:23
DaSkreechtony__: I'm not sure what you are asking03:23
binary2k2and you can install java with it too :p03:23
DaSkreechyou cn do that with adept03:24
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DaSkreechit has two recommended packages that don't get installed. install them and you can install java and flash03:24
binary2k2it has (or had) problams letting you accept the license03:24
mankeletorDaSkreech: Yes I guess, It says ergy, ergy-update, and ergy-security03:24
tony__i installed linux , so , i need to creat recovery CD, so something happend , all i have to is to insert the cd and install linux will all the extar that i have installed03:24
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DaSkreechedgy :)03:25
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DaSkreechmankeletor: Ok the one that says "*edgy universe" should be disabled03:25
DaSkreechhi Hobbsee03:25
binary2k2!backup | tony__03:25
ubotutony__: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning03:25
DaSkreechmankeletor: Klick on enable then double click the word universe03:26
DaSkreechmankeletor: btw do you use MP3s or you never touch the nasty things?03:26
Hobbseehey DaSkreech03:26
mankeletorlol I use mp3's and ogg's03:26
binary2k2amarok installs mp3 support now, I think, i only use ogg :D03:27
DaSkreechmankeletor: Right as I was saying double click the word universe and you should be able to edit it03:27
httpdssim having some font issue problem ... and not OOo related :D ... the thing is i have kde configured for DejaVu Sans .. size 11 ... my actual dpi is of 75 ... the thing is that when kde starts, the kicker font size is like 13 or 14 ... i do "killall kicker" and "kicker &" and up goes my really nice kicker with font size 11 ... someone can explain whats happening here ? where is kicker initialized ?03:27
DaSkreechadd in a space after the word universe and type in multiverse03:27
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DaSkreechonce you do all that click apply and close it out. Back at the farm... I mean back in adept press fetch updates03:28
TehKewl1err... why doesnt dapper have GTK 2.10 yet?03:28
TehKewl1I thought it was long term support03:28
DaSkreechbinary2k2: I'm on my way to only using ogg but untill people start shipping ogg hardware players mp3 is going to be around for a bit03:28
tony__ok , backup is good, but problme with back up is that , i have to install linux first and then restor my back up right ???03:28
DaSkreechtony__: First thing is that you should have a seperate home partition03:29
tony__what happens if i format my harddrive , can i use the back up to start all installation as soon as i boot the system03:29
binary2k2DaSkreech: my apple iPod nano, plays ogg :D03:29
DaSkreechthat will save a load of heartache unless you like messing with your system a lot03:29
DaSkreechbinary2k2: With ipod linux installed03:29
tony__there is only single user on this pc, so im not adding extra home partition03:30
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binary2k2DaSkreech: I do have that installed, but it's not a good media player, I use RockBox03:30
DaSkreechmankeletor: After that just type in yakuake in the search box03:30
DaSkreechLink?03:30
tony__i need someting like GHOST dose for Window . creates the IMAGE of your hardrive and burns that on CD03:30
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vaniqueHi03:30
binary2k2DaSkreech: http://www.rockbox.org/03:31
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DaSkreechHow much compression does it use?03:32
binary2k2what ogg?03:32
DaSkreech!grue03:32
ubotuThe grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)03:32
DaSkreechno GHOST03:32
DaSkreechbinary2k2: ogg has no compression03:33
binary2k2but it is better quality IMO03:33
DaSkreechI think you mean vorbis :)03:33
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binary2k2damn you and your pedanticness :p03:34
DaSkreechHaha :)03:34
DaSkreech!shut up!03:34
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ubotu:x03:34
DaSkreechGuess I'll have to live with that03:35
binary2k2no, I mean vorbis in an ogg container :p03:35
DaSkreechWhat would botslap elicit?03:35
binary2k2the bot will be upset with you, and will stop talking to you03:36
DaSkreech:-)03:36
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hujciwdupei want to capture some old tapes into flacs or waves and clean them up a little , what would be the best app to do this03:38
hujciwdupe?03:38
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mankeletorDaSkreech: *universe is disabled now03:41
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BluesKajhujciwdupe, audacity might do it03:42
mankeletorbinary2k2: I noticed that ogg have better audio quality than mp303:42
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BluesKajwav and flac are best ..lossless03:43
binary2k2mankeletor: yeah, I can't notice the difference between a 64kbps ogg (vorbis) and a 128kbps mp3 :p03:43
DaSkreechmankeletor: Umm You should enable it03:43
mankeletorDaSkreech: Ok, enabled now03:44
DaSkreechhujciwdupe: It's going to be a pain but you can google it pretty easily03:44
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DaSkreechNot so much the capturing you can do that a whole bunch of ways but cleaning them is going to be painful03:44
DaSkreechmankeletor: did you add multiverse?03:44
DaSkreechlnxkde: Hi03:44
mankeletorDaSkreech: nope03:46
DaSkreechok double click the word universe03:46
DaSkreechyou should be able to edit it03:46
DaSkreechput a space after the word and type in multiverse03:46
mankeletordone03:46
DaSkreechthen click apply03:46
hujciwdupeok , ty .,.,  i know goldwave is really good for that , buti think it only runs on windows03:46
DaSkreechclose and click fetch updates03:46
mankeletorSo i should change multiverse by universe?03:46
DaSkreechhujciwdupe: Audacity should have you covered03:47
mankeletorI mean, universe by multiverse03:47
mankeletor:P03:47
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DaSkreechmankeletor: don't change universe to multiverse. add it beside it03:47
DaSkreechso it looks like "universe multiverse"03:47
DaSkreechthen click apply03:47
Jucato(now DaSkreech probably realizes how difficult it is to explain how to add "multiverse" in Adept...)03:48
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mankeletorDaSkreech: done03:48
DaSkreechclick apply03:48
hujciwdupewill try audacity03:48
ubuntu_I am trying to restore Grub, how do I know what my boot partition number is_03:49
DaSkreechJucato: it's normally pretty easy to pick up. I'm doing half explanations soit's probably my fault03:49
DaSkreechJucato: Maybe you can help goodthing.03:49
JucatoDaSkreech: no. you're doing fine. based on (my and others) experience, it's always difficult explaining how to add multiverse03:49
DaSkreechmankeletor: after clicking apply when you get back to adept click fetch updates03:50
mankeletordone03:50
hujciwdupewas anyone unable to connect to wireless network even tho everything was setup right with 6.10?03:50
_goofy_how do i mount a drive so i have read/write abilitys for owner, groupe, and "other"03:50
JucatoDaSkreech: the success rate of people successfully adding multiverse, using the guide from the Wikis, is less than 50%, imho03:50
DaSkreechmankeletor: after the update type in yakuake in the search box03:50
phobiacubuntu_: Tricky question. Do you have Qtparted or Gparted installed?03:50
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ubuntu_phobiac: I am runninng Live CD right now so I the installer can tell me03:51
ubuntu_but I dont know how to translate hdc5 for grub for eg03:51
mankeletorDaSkreech: After, request install, Aply the changes... done.03:51
Jucatoubuntu_: hdc5 will be hd2,4 afaik03:51
JucatoGRUB starts from 0, the usual hd** starts from 103:52
Jucatoa, b, c, d = 0, 1, 2, 3; hdc = hd203:52
phobiacubuntu_: If you have access to your Fstab it should be able to tell you which partition is which.03:52
ubuntu_grub> root (hd2,4)03:53
ubuntu_Error 21: Selected disk does not exist03:53
Jucatoare you sure it's on hdc5?03:53
DaSkreechmankeletor: Umm sure... When I reach that section I'll tell you :)03:53
ubuntu_thats the / partition of my Kubuntu installation03:53
DaSkreechYou may also want to look at libxine-extracodecs03:53
ubuntu_but Ive installed Win XP for tests and it removed grub obviously03:53
mankeletorDaSkreech: thank you very much :)03:53
Jucatohm...03:54
Jucato!grub | ubuntu_03:54
ubotuubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:54
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Jucatotry following that guide...03:54
phobiacI think the windows recovery guide gives you instructions on how to restore grub with the Live CD too.03:54
Jucatooh, btw, if you type in the grub prompt "find /boot/grub/stage1", it will output which partitions contain the /boot directory03:55
ubuntu_yes, i was following this, Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader03:55
ubuntu_grub> find /boot/grub/stage103:55
ubuntu_Error 15: File not found03:55
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ubuntu_I dont know whats the problem03:55
Jucatohm... that looks bad...03:55
mankeletorDaSkreech: can i use apt-get too?03:55
DaSkreechJucato: Oh I love kaffiene btw :)03:56
DaSkreechmankeletor: Yup03:56
DaSkreechman apt-get and go crazy03:56
JucatoDaSkreech: I loved kaffeine03:56
DaSkreechJucato: ed?03:56
Jucatoyes03:56
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JucatoI'm looking towards KPlayer right now... because of some issues I'm having with Kaffeine03:56
mankeletorDaSkreech: If you wanna go crazy you should try to compile KDE yourself03:57
mankeletorlol03:57
DaSkreechmankeletor: that's krazy FYI03:57
DaSkreechWhat issues?03:57
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DaSkreechI just discoverd if you jump desktop when a video is playing and it's up it pauses the video till you come back03:57
JucatoDaSkreech: some .mkv videos do not play properly (maybe a Xine thing), a slightly bad (just imho) UI, and inconsistent (from the rest of KDE) mouse wheel behavior03:58
Jucatosmall things... but they annoy me :P03:58
mankeletorDaSkreech: http://www.kwort.org/staticpages/index.php?page=20060903213413709 <-- See who is the KDE maintainer of that distro03:59
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Jucatosecond on the list...04:00
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hujciwdupeis i586 same as x84 same as 32bit ?04:00
mankeletoryup04:00
mankeletorhujciwdupe: nope04:00
ant_x8604:00
BluesKajdoes hotmail still publish the senders IP addy in the header ?04:01
mankeletori586 means pentium I and above04:01
ant_it means the processor your using is a p204:01
ant_well pre p304:01
DaSkreechJucato: Kaffiene is pretty inconsistent. what mouse whell behaviour?04:01
mankeletori686 p2 and above04:01
hujciwdupeahhh04:02
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lucahi everyone04:02
mankeletorhi luca04:02
lucacan someone helpme restoring OpenGL on my pc?04:02
JucatoDaSkreech: in almost all KDE apps (specially KDE multimedia apps), scrolling the mouse wheel up moves the sliders forward (to the right/up), and scrolling it down moves the sliders backward (to the left/down). It's the reverse in Kaffeine04:03
hujciwdupedoes wireless networking on linux work with anything besides WEP?04:03
lucahi mankeletor04:03
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lucahujciwdupe try wifi-radar04:03
lucaI believe it has wpa support04:03
morgWorkgah, anyone else having wireless issues with a freshly installed 6.10 on an IBM T42 Thinkpad? I'm checking the forums but not seeing much04:03
DaSkreechJucato: Ha ha :-) never noticed it before. I suppose that's a easy patch04:03
Jucatoeasy for who? :P04:04
DaSkreechanyone who is annoyed enough by it to look04:04
hujciwdupeluca,ty will try04:04
Jucatoit's been like that since I remember (breezy). either the devs don't know about it, or they don't want to change it04:04
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Jucatoin either case, it doesn't solve my other problem (.mkv)04:04
DaSkreechJucato: filed bugs on any of this?04:05
Jucatohehe anyway... gtg :P04:05
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DaSkreechseeya!04:05
JucatoDaSkreech: nope... not really interested in filing one yet... maybe one of these days :P04:05
lucahujciwdupe np :)04:05
hujciwdupemorgWork,, whats your problem with wireless, im having wireless problems too04:06
morgWorkhujciwdupe: it's unable to set channels with ipwconfig for starters04:07
morgWorkwlassistant doesn't like it, kwlan doesn't either04:07
morgWorkwpa_supplicant is a no go as well04:07
morgWorkit can see networks via iwlist eth1 scanning, but can't really do much with it04:08
DaSkreechHmm04:08
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DaSkreechCan't wget download real files? not just HTML files?04:09
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binary2k2DaSkreech: yes04:09
morgWorkDaSkreech: wget can download pretty much anything04:09
lucaanyone willing to help me with opengl?04:09
DaSkreechthen why the back side won't it listen to me?04:09
hujciwdupemorgWork, i can see my network but no matte what i do , it will not connect to it , something is messed up with the wep key04:09
ubuntuHi, I've got a problem with a harddisk. I just made a backup to one harddisk, and now I'm trying to copy it to another one. The copying is pretty slow, and after some while, I always get some "Input/Output" Erorrs. If I unmount and remount hte partition, I can copy some more stuff, but the harddisk seems to be brocken - right?04:10
ubuntuWhat can I do to figure out what's wrong with it?04:10
DaSkreechwget -rc http://horus.gasid.org.uk/wf/04:10
DaSkreechgives me a 404 index.html not found04:10
morgWorkhujciwdupe: yeah, it's a pain in the ass. I had a t42 previously, but it was a t42p, which used ipw2200 rather than 2100 and it worked great04:10
BluesKaji have swat (Samba Web Admin Tool) in the form of a *.gz file ...how am I supposed to handle this file if it 's always cpmpressed ..it won't open into a normal file ...looks a lot like HTML or PDF04:11
binary2k2BluesKaj: it's in the repositorys (edgy)04:11
hujciwdupemorgWork, doent it set the channel utomatically when it connects to the network it detected?04:12
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DaSkreechWhat am I doing wrong?04:13
BluesKajyeah binary2k2 , I installed it with synaptic ...this form of file is strange04:13
lucaubuntu check permissions of the files04:14
lucaubuntu they could be mesisng things up04:14
DaSkreechOr can someone start wget on that URL and tell me what they typed in :)04:14
lucanobody for opengl? :(04:14
ubuntuluca: 664 on every file and 775 on every dir, I'm the owner04:14
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binary2k2BluesKaj: you should just go to http://localhost:901/04:15
DaSkreechluca: #ubuntu-xgl would be a good placeto try as well04:15
lucaubuntu doh not really understandng, you seem to know more :)04:15
Agent_bobwhat device is a scaner (MFD)  ?04:15
lucaDaSkreech: I am there, and the last post was mine.......20 minutes ago04:15
DaSkreechha ha :)04:15
mankeletoranyone knows how to make a debian package?04:16
mankeletori need to compile amule04:16
DaSkreechyou should be able to install it without compiling04:16
lucamankeletor: all I know is that checkinstall can create deb files.....type sudo checkinstall instead of sudo make install04:17
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BluesKajyeah, binary2k2 thx , i just discovered that :)04:17
lucadoes nobody want to help me? :(04:17
DaSkreechWhat's the problem?04:18
lucano opengl04:18
Agent_bobanyone know the device node for a usb connected MFD scanner ?04:18
DaSkreechIt sounds like you had it before04:18
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phobiacmankeletor, there's something called alien that can convert files to debian packages04:18
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lucawhen i try to open a program requiring it i receive a message which says xlib: no glx option for screen 0:004:18
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DaSkreechmorgWork: How do I get wget to mirror a folder?04:19
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lucaDaSkreech: yeah I had it.......but I messed around with video drivers04:19
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DaSkreechluca: What drivers do you hve installed and waht video card04:19
DaSkreech!opengl04:19
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:19
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morgWorkDaSkreech: no clue off hand, check the man page...04:19
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DaSkreechWell it said -r for recursive04:19
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morgWorkhujciwdupe: nope04:19
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lucaDaSkreech I have an intel 82855 with i810 as driver04:19
morgWorkit doesn't change the channel at all04:19
DaSkreechbut I guess recurcive needs a HTML page to start off04:20
morgWorkok, I need to reboot, brb04:20
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lucathe driver has some problems at resuming after suspend04:20
mankeletori prefer to make packages myself, i dont like to much alien and checkinstall04:20
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phobiacAlright, just thought that might help you.04:20
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lucaI messed around with xgl and beryl and video drivers and now suspend functions....do not understand perfectly why04:21
lucabut no opengl04:21
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binary2k2super cow powers at work :p04:22
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DaSkreechdo you have glx in your xorg.conf?04:25
intelikeyanyone know the device node for a usb connected MFD scanner ?    or howto set it up ?04:25
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arunkaleHey, people04:25
intelikeyor where to get info ?04:25
lucaDaSkreech: where should i be?04:25
lucait04:25
arunkaleI want to try out the Ubuntu (Gnome) -- how do I go about it?04:26
phobiacarunkale: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:26
arunkalephobiac: what happens after it's installed?04:26
phobiacThen you'll be able to start a session running gnome at your login screen.04:27
binary2k2you'll get a choice when you login to start gnome or kde04:27
DaSkreechluca: /etc/X1104:27
DaSkreechintelikey: Doesn't the Kontrol Center have a ahardware info section?04:27
arunkaleah thanks.. so how big is the download?04:27
phobiacYou can click the options menu on the side to choose to change the session, or do alt+t and the menu will pop up.04:27
lucaDaSkreech: I meant in the file :)04:28
phobiacI went the other way around. Started with gnome and switched to kde. It took a little while for me, not unbearable though.04:28
arunkalelike 100 mb?04:28
DaSkreech*shrugs* just grep it04:28
lucaDaSkreech: I hav been modifying that little text file doxens of times now.... :(04:28
DaSkreechIf you don't have it then you don't have opengl04:28
DaSkreechI was wondering04:28
DaSkreechKinda hard to have beryl and not know where that file is04:29
phobiacIt installs the gnome pacakages like gaim, gedit, and such. So it takes a while.04:29
DaSkreechAnyone want to shed some light on the wget terminology?04:29
arunkaleah okay, thanks :)04:29
lucaDaSkreech what command should I issue?04:29
phobiacNo problem.04:29
arunkaleok, so i just need to use the sudo command, nothing else?04:29
DaSkreechcause it obviously doesn't speak english04:29
DaSkreechluca: grep gls /etc/X11/xorg.cong04:30
DaSkreechluca: grep glx /etc/X11/xorg.cong04:30
lucaI have a Load "glx" which I myself added04:30
lucanothing else04:30
DaSkreechThat should do it04:31
lucait is under modules04:31
arunkalephobiac: is gnome faster than kde?04:31
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lucaDaSkreech it does not however :(04:31
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phobiacarunkale: Same speed for me.04:31
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DaSkreechOh yeah I know but that's the first step to opengl As i understand it04:31
DaSkreech what error are you getting?04:31
lucaXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:32
DaSkreechmankeletor: The Distro uses XFCE?04:32
DaSkreechwhat drivers are you using?04:32
phobiacarunkale: If you're used to kde's one toolbar it might be a little odd to use gnome's default two toolbars though.04:32
BluesKajhmmm, my samba vers is smb4k and the samba web admin tool is written for vers 3.0 ...wondering if there's an upgrade problem04:32
DaSkreechnv? nividia? ati? fgrlx? vesa?04:33
lucaDaSkreech: i81004:33
DaSkreechHmm that should work as well04:33
DaSkreechWell that's about as much as my knowldege goes04:33
lucaDaSkreech I know because it did :(04:33
DaSkreechluca: Perhaps ##linux ?04:33
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lucaeh thx anyways04:34
mankeletorDaSkreech: if you're talking about Kwort, yes04:34
lucaI will look into it later.... :(04:34
arunkalephobiac: is it easy to uninstall gnome later?04:34
phobiacarunkale: You should be able to use adept to purge ubuntu-desktop and it should unistall all the related packages.04:35
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phobiacNote though, should. I can't gaurentee no problems will occur.04:35
arunkaleok.. thanks04:36
arunkalehow much space does it require?04:37
arunkalemy kubuntu partition is like 10GB i think04:37
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phobiacIf you use the command line it should tell you and ask you before going through with the install how much space it requires.04:37
arunkalealright04:37
arunkalethanks04:37
binary2k210GB is fine for a decent install04:37
phobiacIt's less then 1gb though.04:37
arunkalethanks a lot man04:38
phobiacAnd the worst that happens is you uninstall a package you didn't want to. Easy enough to fix that.04:38
sirjinxHi. Can some help me customise the kde menu? Could some point me in the right direction of setting it up so it looks like the one in opensuse?04:39
[Relic] 6.10 considered the lastest stable release?04:39
binary2k26.10 is the latest stable release yes04:39
matthew[Relic] , yes04:39
DaSkreech!kickoff04:39
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233104:39
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DaSkreechsirjinx: There you go04:39
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[Relic] time to back up everything and install 6.10 then  :)04:39
sirjinxthanks, it was what I was looking for :)04:40
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binary2k2[Relic]  good luck with that04:40
DaSkreechIt's called kickoff for future google searches :)04:40
matthew[Relic] , worked good for me!04:40
DaSkreechbinary2k2: used wget to mirror a directory before?04:40
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binary2k2DaSkreech: I haven't but I think it can be done04:41
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binary2k2man wget has all the answers :p04:41
phobiacarunkale: And no problem. Good luck with the install. It's always nice to try something new, that was my main reason for even switching to linux in the first place.04:41
DaSkreechNo It doesn't. It doesn't speak english04:41
[Relic] got a new MB & CPU so I figure a fresh install would be best04:41
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binary2k2[Relic] : linux won't care if you change your HD and CPU, it will just work04:42
arunkalephobiac: same here :)04:42
binary2k2or MB too04:42
Admiral_ChicagoHDD, maybe...if it has your partition on it..04:42
STDI need help :/ I don't have the option for treble or bass control in the alsamixer D: I have logitech z-2400 speakers and I'm getting no bass sound out of them x_X04:42
binary2k2yeah, i meant 'MB' not 'HD' :p04:42
[Relic] :)04:42
[Relic] just want it to be clean  :)04:43
[Relic] good excuse to back up all the 3d art files too :)04:43
mankeletorubotu: it looks nice04:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about it looks nice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
Admiral_Chicagomankeletor: that's a robot04:45
Lam_amarok can play flac out of the box, right?04:46
mankeletorAdmiral_Chicago: hmm I being crazy04:46
phobiacLam_: I'm pretty sure it can04:46
Admiral_ChicagoLam_: i believe so04:46
Admiral_Chicagoflac = open format?04:46
Lam_i think it might be04:47
mankeletorubotu: !help04:47
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matthewflac == full lossless audio codec?04:47
Admiral_Chicagoif it's an open format like ogg it will04:47
mankeletorflac == for loosers audio codec :P04:48
matthewmankeletor, why do you say that?04:49
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: it is an open format04:49
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mankeletormatthew: joke xD04:49
matthewah...oh right, lol04:49
Admiral_Chicagothank Jucato04:49
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Admiral_Chicagooh I did 8/10 chapters, so now all i have lab reports and a final04:50
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Jucato:)04:50
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goodthingDaSkreech: still there? You know what is even mote weird? The data on the partition which should contain edgy minus the /home folder only carries a folder home (empty) and a folder media (with enpty folders). Still, if i boot from is with two disks, i have a living system FROM THAT PARTITION. I tell you, it is spooky in here...04:52
goodthing*more04:52
DaSkreechwhat is it formatted as?04:52
goodthingext304:52
DaSkreechJucato: used wget?04:52
JucatoDaSkreech: for?04:53
DaSkreechMirroring a folder04:53
Jucatoum... nope04:53
DaSkreechmirroring anything?04:53
spawn57how do i run konqueror as root?04:53
Jucatospawn57: kdesu konqueror04:54
JucatoDaSkreech: nope...04:54
DaSkreechspawn57: kdesu konqueror04:54
spawn57ah thanx04:54
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DaSkreechI lose04:56
Dark_Oppressoris there some kind of program that will give me a nice visual representation of my harddrive and how much space different directories are using?04:56
mankeletoradept have found frozen-bubble :D awesome!04:57
goodthinghmm, let's download a newer debian and see what that does04:58
DaSkreechYeah04:58
Admiral_ChicagoDark_Oppressor: yes, i forget the name04:59
DaSkreechmankeletor: Old one though04:59
DaSkreechThe new one has network multiplay :)04:59
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phobiacBye all04:59
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Dark_OppressorAdmiral_Chicago: if you happen to remember the name let me know :P05:00
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Admiral_Chicagosure05:00
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ranceI have a problem with KDE getting EXCLUSIVE access to the sound device, is there any way to make that SHARED access?05:01
DaSkreechBloody wget05:03
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lucahi again05:04
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lucafound the problem, I have a sticky nvidia-glx driver05:04
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DaSkreechsticky?05:05
lucadoesn't uninstall05:06
jerpSo I'm trying to install Gnash from Adept and I get a 'break(install)' in red letters when I make the request.  What's up?05:06
DaSkreechAh05:06
lucait says that there is a file in /usr/X11R6/lib/nvidia which does not want to be changed05:06
rancejerp: it means that there is a bug in that package that will break your install05:06
lucaI have taken all files and put them in home...let us see05:06
Jucatojerp: try to install it through apt-get to get more descriptive error messages, or try to click on Preview Changes in Adept when you request install gnash05:06
lucauh uh done!05:07
lucarebooting!05:07
Jucatorebooting?05:07
Jucato:O05:07
Dr_willisDasBOoting!05:07
Dr_willis:)05:07
mankeletorDaSkreech: yeah, I was testing mandriva 2007 and got it05:07
jerpthanks rance and jucato, I'll give it a try05:08
[Relic] how do I tell how my HD is divided up?05:08
ablyssthere are a few ways05:09
goodthingone can install debian from the first cd right?05:09
ablyssthey're*05:09
DaSkreechDr_willis: Booting me?05:09
DaSkreechmankeletor: Frozen bubble?05:09
goodthingdebian has 15 cd's o_005:09
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DaSkreechgoodthing: first two I think05:09
Dr_willis[Relic] ,  sudo fdisk -l /dev/whatever05:10
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goodthingthx05:10
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mankeletorDaSkreech: yes05:11
[Relic] 1 have 3 partitions, I need to mount the last one05:12
[Relic] and it isn't in fstab05:12
mankeletorDaSkreech: hmm i remember i got from the mandriva repositories with "urpmi --auto frozen-bubble"05:13
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Dr_willis[Relic] ,  mount it manually, or add a fstab entry for it then.05:16
[Relic] no fstab can't seem to get it to mount manually either, not sure what I am doing wrong05:16
Dr_williswhats the fstab entry you are using..05:17
jerpjucato, my 'preview changes' have other files there with nothing requested to install... libsdl-mixer1.2 libsmpeg0 libmad0 libaa105:17
Dr_willis[Relic] ,  and #1 -- the MOUNT point must exist befor you mount it.05:17
Jucatojerp: hm... Adept isn't very helpful... how about apt-get?05:17
jerpjucato, I didn't request intsall of gnash but there are those files "lurking", I haven't tried that yet05:18
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Jucatojerp: I meant to request install gnash, then click Preview Changes. but try apt-get, it might be more helpful05:19
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[Relic] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,05:20
[Relic]        missing codepage or other error05:20
[Relic]        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try05:20
[Relic]        dmesg | tail  or so05:20
[Relic] assuming it is trying to mount that section properly but having a problem05:21
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Jucato!pastebin05:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:21
jerphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37289/05:22
jerpjucato, there it is if you're interested05:22
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Dr_willis[Relic] ,  thats saying 'your command/fstab line' is wrong....05:23
jerpI  used that raof repository05:23
jerpmaybe I should delete that from my list05:24
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Jucatotry to comment/disable unnecessary/unofficial repos... might be causing problems05:24
jerpok05:24
gebruikerlinux05:25
mankeletornice, im looking the binary file in /usr/bin, most files are stripped :)05:26
[Relic] cannot find any way this will work05:27
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jerpjucato, is there a way to disable or remove those from the adept list?  wait, what's that purge command in apt-get?  could you direct me with the proper command?05:30
[Relic] how does one format a disk section?05:30
Jucatojerp: in Adept, you go to View -> Manage Repositories. right-click on the line and select Disable05:30
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jerpI went into sources.list with nano and used the uncomment #05:31
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jerpor comment actually05:31
intelikeyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37290/plain/05:32
intelikeycan anyone tell me what's going on there ?05:32
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: looking now05:32
jerpso how do I get a fresh gnash that isn't bugged05:32
jerprun apt-get update?05:32
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Admiral_Chicagomodprobe sg what does htat sy05:33
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago no change.05:34
Admiral_Chicagowhat was the output?05:34
intelikeynothing05:34
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Admiral_Chicagohmm, to be honest i don't know much about printing.05:35
intelikeythe printer works fine.  but there seems to be no scanner there.05:35
intelikeyand yes the hardware is there....05:36
intelikeymodule did load btw05:36
intelikeyttyp0 [greg@~]  lsmod | grep sg05:36
intelikeysg                     37920  005:36
Admiral_Chicagowhats in /etc/modules?05:36
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intelikeylp and scsimod  are all that might relate05:37
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intelikeyerr scsi_mod actually05:37
intelikeythe rest is sound drivers specific for the box05:38
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intelikeyi got the .deb's from the manufacturer and installed the printer and cups warper seem ok.  but i have hailed to get anything out of the scanner   the scanner .deb installs ok but xsane says no device found and you saw the pastebin.05:41
intelikeyhailed/failed05:41
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intelikey 12. found USB scanner (vendor=0x04f9, product=0x01ba) at libusb:001:00205:42
intelikey26. No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,05:42
intelikey?05:46
xsacha26 scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,05:47
unix_infidelanyone know of a firefox plugin that allows you keep the search bar at the bottom of the page between sessions?05:48
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DaSkreechAh man I'm loving on kio slaves now05:54
poquedoraquMy girlfriend got a new HP computer that came with winblowz, and we just tried to resize its partition so that kubuntu could squeeze in... but the windows partition is displayed in red, and when you try to resize it says "couldnt check disk, totally 3 clusters"05:54
poquedoraquwindows didnt put a block on it did they?05:56
xsachamm just format windows? :)05:58
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poquedoraquEveryone says that lol :D But i cant get her to give up some of the windows stuff she likes.05:59
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xsachalike?05:59
xsachahttp://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/12/15/2234216.shtml ;P06:00
poquedoraquA fish tank program she got that doubles as a screensaver, and a male stripper for her desktop.06:00
poquedoraquWine wasnt able to handle them06:00
xsachaa male stripper?06:00
poquedoraquyeah lol06:00
xsachaso she's gonna boot up windows whenever she needs her fish tank and male stripper?06:01
poquedoraquyes <06:01
xsachajust give her my number06:01
hujciwdupehow do i update firmware on a wireless lancard? i only have a bin file06:01
poquedoraqulol06:01
xsachai'll come around with a real fish tank06:01
poquedoraquShe likes sitting down with a big 3d desktop and having her little animated male dancer jump up now and then. But i hate that she's using the evil windows06:02
DaSkreechWe need a <shudder> open stripper06:03
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poquedoraqulol.06:03
poquedoraquyoud hink the company would just put a linux version up. Thats *soooo* not hard.06:03
DaSkreechpoquedoraqu: I'll put 10 dollars in your belt if you call them up and they don't say What is linux?06:04
poquedoraquDaSkreech: LOL im sure you're right06:04
xsachahave you looked around for a linux version of a male stripper program?06:04
poquedoraquno such thing06:05
DaSkreechI serverly doubt there is one06:05
DaSkreechNot a big enough itch06:05
poquedoraquSo nobody's going to help me with the un-re-sizable partition06:05
DaSkreechand who would they model? Stallman?06:05
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poquedoraqu???06:05
xsachapoquedoraqu: just make a video of you stripping every day06:05
DaSkreechHeaven (and a few otehr regalutory bodies) forbid06:05
poquedoraquCome on guys >.<06:06
xsacha"At the Desktop Linux Conference in Boston, Red Hat and IBM detailed their desktop Linux plans. ... Danny DeVito will guest star as a male stripper"06:06
xsacharead: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=male+stripper+desktop+linux+%22Advanced+Combo+Tricks%2206:07
poquedoraquKubuntu's partition manager... help?06:07
intelikeypoquedoraqu: boot windows turn fertual memory off and (after the restart) run scandisk and defrag   for m windows.   then try the resize.06:07
unix_infidelxsacha: the American Sit-Com "Friends" already tried that with little success.06:07
unix_infidelYou'd think IBM and RH would learn :)06:07
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xsacha:P06:07
DaSkreechRedhat should be very happy06:07
unix_infidelRedHat is bajillions of reasons to be happy.06:07
unix_infidelhas*06:07
poquedoraquintelikey: how fragged could it be? its been out of he package one day06:08
DaSkreechJava GPL being number Two?06:08
intelikeypoquedoraqu ok don't  it's your box.06:08
unix_infidelDaSkreech: Java is now GPL?06:08
DaSkreechpoquedoraqu: Doesn't mean anything. On install windows throws files anywhere06:08
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DaSkreechunix_infidel: Ehh close enough :)06:08
poquedoraquintelikey: So windows basically blocked the partition so i cant install linux06:08
unix_infidelDaSkreech: the VM or the compiler?06:09
xsachayou see the french law that would suggest that a computer and OS should be sold seperately? and HP is trying to say they need to be sold together06:09
xsacha'The PC without an OS is not a product because it doesn't work,' said Alain Spitzmuller, legal affairs director for HP France. 'We believe the market is for products that work.06:09
DaSkreechunix_infidel: both06:09
unix_infidelor is this some nerd TOMFOOLERY!06:09
intelikeypoquedoraqu no windows basically has files at the end of the partition and the partition can't be resized in that condition06:09
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unix_infidelDaSkreech: what do you mean by close enough?06:09
DaSkreechpoquedoraqu: defrag06:09
poquedoraqu*sigh* well, if no one can help me, she's rushing me. Ill try defrag06:09
poquedoraquthanks06:09
DaSkreechunix_infidel: Announced but not GPLed fully till March 200706:09
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intelikeyscandisk && defrag    then resize.06:10
DaSkreechThey have put down there word ( and a  website) though06:10
unix_infidelDaSkreech: I doubt it'll be of little consequence.06:10
DaSkreechWhy?06:10
unix_infidelerm, i should say, I doubt it'll be of any consequence.06:10
intelikeyif you don't disable the pagefile (vertual memory)  you are spitting in the wind.06:10
DaSkreechagain Why?06:11
DaSkreechDistros can now ship with Java in it06:11
Dr_willisxsacha,  hmm.. makes me stare at my MythTVlive cd, and GeeXBoX Live cd.. :)06:11
unix_infidelDaSkreech: its not like any Linux user doesn't know where to get java with a few clicks.06:11
Dr_willisJava - such an Interesting History of that product...06:11
unix_infidelIt's like asking a kid where to get drugs even when he's not suppose to have easy access to it.06:11
unix_infidelHe ALWAYS knows where to find some.06:12
intelikeyit might even be like some linux users don't even want java06:12
DaSkreechYeah but two things. one you can ship with it no complaints and people acn actually start making the bloody VM work well now06:12
intelikeyi can name at least one  :)06:12
DaSkreech It's like Flash06:12
Dr_willisId rather have java ,,, and no flash. :)06:12
unix_infidelLike i said, It'll be of little consequence.  Unless there's a DEDICATED project that manages the virtual machine and makes the development toolkits USABLE!06:12
DaSkreechunix_infidel: WEll I don't know about usable06:13
unix_infidelDr_willis: mind your words.  AS2 is exponentially faster than java.06:13
DaSkreechlook at OO.o06:13
intelikeyi'd rather have no flash and no java06:13
Dr_willisunix_infidel,  dosent matter much to me...06:13
xsachawhy?06:13
DaSkreechintelikey: Seriously?06:13
intelikeyyes06:13
xsachathen no youtube :(06:13
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DaSkreechYou'd prefer a flat html www?06:13
Dr_willisxsacha,  and that would be a good thing.06:13
Dr_willis:)06:13
xsachalynx ftw06:13
DaSkreechxsacha: w3m :)06:14
unix_infidelDr_willis: most end users dont care what they use.  As long as the content is available.  Flash is the better content presentation and management platform, hands down06:14
unix_infidelDaSkreech: what about OO.org06:14
Dr_willisI tend to 'print' many web sites...    so whats in it for me.. heh heh06:14
DaSkreechIt sucks06:14
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unix_infidelDaSkreech: i dont think so, neither do a lot of people.06:14
intelikeyyes i have a low openion of OO also.06:15
DaSkreechIt's one huge application that has different views and a dev community that seems to lumber on not really listening to people outside it06:15
DaSkreechIt's done a lot06:15
DaSkreechBut that doesn't mean it could be a hell of a lot better06:15
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unix_infidelDaSkreech: The major revolution with Java going towards GPL will undoubtedbly be a new movement in developing alternatives to Swing.06:16
DaSkreechintelikey: What do you have against flash style interaction?06:16
dan_ok i'm really tired of using opera can someone please help me get firefox going again06:16
DaSkreechunix_infidel: I'm fairly sure anyone could do that before06:16
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DaSkreechHmm apparently there is a female stripper program for linux06:16
unix_infidelDaSkreech: A lot of talented people wont touch anything that's proprietary for tons of good reasons.06:16
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dan_nice06:16
xsachaDaSkreech: yeah of course lol06:17
xsachaDaSkreech: but there's no demand for male strippers06:17
dan_so can anyone help me please06:17
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DaSkreech!firefox06:17
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:17
mikemikefirst day-just  testing06:17
DaSkreechdan_: There you go06:17
DaSkreechunix_infidel: Oh yeah propietary is mostly evil etc06:17
dan_well no i have it it just crashes upon opening06:17
intelikeyDaSkreech i'm not trying to persuaid you.   i don't need to list all the things i don't like about something to not like it.    it would be much easier to list the things that one does like about the things he does like.06:18
dan_but i'll check it out06:18
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DaSkreechunix_infidel: I was asking intelikey why he has something against the concept of flash style interaction06:18
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Dark_Oppressorwhat would you guys suggest for an irc server?06:18
hujciwdupeanyone know how to compile the drivers for ralink lancards06:18
unix_infideldefine: "Flash style interaction"06:18
DaSkreechintelikey: at least let me get this straight. are you against the technology of flash, the license or the implementation?06:19
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intelikeythe license and the implementation  seeing that i havent studied the tech.....     but in fact i was asking for help with a scanner part of a mfd06:20
DaSkreech:-)06:20
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dan_ok ya those sites didnt help06:20
dan_can someone help me get my shit goin please06:20
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intelikeyyeah dan_ that's how i feel too.06:21
dan_lol06:21
Dr_willisrephrase the problem in a clear/precise way. :)06:21
max_what cant you get going?06:21
Dr_willis'please state the nature of the linux emergancy' :)06:21
dan_ok, when i start up firefox 2.0 it crashes the instant a page starts to load i.e. yahoo06:21
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Dr_willisdan_,  sounds like a plugin/extension issue.06:22
max_i had that problem, trying to think how to fix06:22
dan_i have no plugins or extension installed06:22
max_!fff06:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:22
max_!ff06:22
dan_but maybe lemme install it and check it out06:22
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:22
arunkaleumm i did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. now i've changed my mind mid way and dont want to install gnome, how do i cancel it and remove all the stuff that's been downloaded?06:22
max_dan_:flash causes it to crash06:23
Dr_willisdan_,  as a 'test' try making a new user and see if it crashes for them also.06:23
dan_grrr flash06:23
dan_thats the problem i knew it06:23
dan_well wtf it didnt do that with dapper06:23
max_it didnt do it with 10506:23
max_1.5*06:23
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dan_ya06:23
intelikeyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37290/plain/  this is my problem.    any fixers ?06:23
dan_but i had 2.0 in dapper and it worked06:23
mikemikeI have a question.  I have a PLC that will write information to a txt file through a java applet server in a specific directory on a server.  I am passing information && commands to an AS400.  How does the AS400 get that info.  I'm thinking FTP transfer-but what triggers the transfer.  Does the AS400 poll? or is there another way?-obviously I'm not a programmer.  I can write programs in a few languages-but I don't know the system yet.  Any help would be06:24
Zamberxgl/beryl + xglgears = crash06:24
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Dr_willis:P06:24
DaSkreecha computer06:25
Dr_willisya cant have the other machine use ssh/scp to grab the data?06:25
dan_ok ya when i hit stop before the page loads then it doesnt crash06:25
mikemikeAS400 is Unix mini06:25
dan_but now what?06:25
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linux8sorry, question about "alien"06:26
max_go for it linux806:26
intelikeyyes that is a sorry question06:26
intelikey:)06:27
linux8i can't run command alien06:27
arunkaleumm i did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. now i've changed my mind mid way and dont want to install gnome, how do i cancel it and remove all the stuff that's been downloaded?06:27
max_whats the error?06:27
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max_arunkale: tried sudo apt-get remove?06:27
intelikeyarunkale ^C06:27
intelikeyctrl-c06:28
max_linux8: what error do you get?06:28
arunkalethanks intelikey06:28
intelikeyas for the removing apt-get clean06:28
arunkalewill that delete all the downloaded files as well06:28
arunkaleoh ok.. 'sudo apt-get clean' ?06:28
arunkalethat'sit?06:28
intelikeyyes06:28
max_why thank him?06:28
max_i told you06:28
arunkaleor sudo apt-get clean ubuntu-desktop06:28
mikemikeso my question doesn't count?06:29
intelikeyno06:29
arunkalethanks to you too max_06:29
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dan_aghhhhhhhhhh grrrr06:29
linux8status, many program not install06:29
dan_what is wrong with this program!!!!!!!!06:29
mikemikeso you don't know the answer?06:29
max_linux8: and the command your doing is <alien -r filename.rpm>?06:30
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intelikeymax_ "<max_> arunkale: tried sudo apt-get remove?"    what did you expect him to remove ?06:30
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arunkaleintelikey: thanks a lot06:30
max_the file he installed06:30
Dr_willisnot that removing the ubuntu-desktop stuff will do much..06:30
intelikeyubuntu-desktop max_   hehhe06:30
Dr_willisif it got cancled during the download - its not isntalled yet.06:30
arunkalemax_: i had not installed anything06:30
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max_you said you did an install06:30
arunkaleit was downloading the stuff06:30
arunkalebefore installing06:30
intelikeyno you misread him.06:30
Dr_willishe will just have some deb files in the apt cache dir.06:31
max_oh, ok06:31
max_my bad06:31
Dr_willisNo big deal06:31
linux8yes, i'll try again, and mention messege error.06:31
dan_ok so i'm left with using opera thats just great06:31
arunkalethanks people06:31
Nukedhello all06:31
max_anyone know anything about the Fire Fox crash on pages with flash?06:31
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intelikeybut my point was that removing ubuntu-desktop would not have helped if he had installed it and now wanted to get rid of all the gnome krap.06:31
Dr_willisYahoo.com has flash>06:31
Dr_willisYahoo.com has flash?06:31
dan_ya come on i cant be the only  one06:31
dan_yes06:31
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unix_infidelDr_willis: yea.06:32
Dr_willishow lame is that.. gesh06:32
Dr_williscould remove flash. :)06:32
Nukedwhats with the libnspr4-dev package?06:32
dan_ok how though?06:32
j_I need to remove the first four characters of each line in a text file, how is this done?06:32
dan_i dont have it installed i thought anyways06:32
intelikeyj_ cut06:32
Dr_willisdan_,  you are stateing that flash is crashing firefox , even though flash is not installed?06:33
dan_i just checked nope no flash installed06:33
j_man cut will be enough?06:33
Dr_willisI think the problem may not be flash then. :)06:33
dan_i'm not saying anything about flash06:33
max_dan_: you could always ask in the #ubuntu room also, they might know06:33
intelikeyyep06:33
dan_i'm saying it crashes when yahoo loads thats all06:33
max_is it JUST yahoo?06:33
dan_nope i tried other pages too06:33
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dan_curiously the firefox page doesnt06:34
dan_ha06:34
max_google will lode?06:34
max_load*06:34
dan_lemme check it out06:34
intelikeyJ_  cut -b5- inputfile > outputfile06:34
NukedI am currently attempting to compile the latest avidemux, and it needs jsapi.h, and the package that supplies it needs libnspr4-dev for whatever reason. Anyone have an idea as to how to remedy this problem?06:34
j_intelikey, thanks06:34
intelikeynp   that's what i do.06:34
dan_ya google loads06:35
max_sounds like the pronlem i had06:35
dan_nuked, why dont you install libnspr-4-dev06:35
Nukedbecause it wishes to uninstall everything else06:36
j_i don't understand why manpages almost never include examples06:36
dan_i hate when that happens06:36
Nukedhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner/+bug/5716106:36
j_just the syntax06:36
NukedI guess I answered my own question06:36
dan_hahaha06:36
intelikeyj_ :)   yeah.06:36
Dr_willisreal men dont need examples! or ask directions!06:37
NukedI truthfully hate nothing more than when things like these happen06:37
dan_oh come on dr. willis i need a check up06:37
Nukedfirst it was gaim-encryption, now this06:37
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intelikeyDr_willis no that's lost men that don't ask dirrections.06:37
j_haha06:37
dan_ya what he said06:37
dan_haha06:37
intelikeyreal men don't get lost.06:37
dan_real men run kubuntu!!!!!!!!06:37
dan_lol06:37
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dan_so anyways come on whats up with my firefox06:38
arunkalehaha06:38
Nukedhang on a second06:38
Nukedlets say, hypothetically I uninstall firefox, would that solve the problem06:39
Nukedor would that make me uninstall all of ubuntu as well?06:39
intelikeyscanner help ?        SOMEBODY !06:39
Nukedintellikey whats going on with yours?06:39
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intelikeyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37290/plain/06:39
dan_i uninstalled firefox and i hate opera06:40
dan_i want my fox back06:40
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dan_im sinning daily because of it06:40
intelikeyand no removing ff will not remove very much.06:40
drkmkubuntu is ubuntu with kde not gnome right?06:40
Nukeddan try the weekly-builds06:40
intelikeydrkm yea06:40
dan_weekly-builds?06:40
Nukedintellikey compile the latest scanner backends, and try again06:41
dan_YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOHOOO06:41
navaburo_The FAQs say to ln -s /usr/java/... and so on to let firefox see the java plugin, but I don't have a /usr/java directory?06:41
NukedI had to do that in order to get my pixma scanner to work06:41
intelikeyNuked xsane ?06:41
dan_i got it too work06:41
drkmintelikey: ok cool just checking06:41
dan_yes yes yes06:41
dan_i installed flashplayer06:41
dan_hahaha06:41
Nukedyeah intelikey06:41
dan_not that anyone cares06:42
dan_well bye guys06:42
intelikeywell that should keep me from asking about it for several hours........06:42
Nukedseveral hours?06:42
intelikeybut i doubt that it will help.06:42
Nukedmore like 5-10 minutes06:42
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Nukedintellikey it wants to remove everything!06:43
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intelikeyno i'd have to dl build-essential and all it's deps then the source code and dialup that's probably several hours....06:43
intelikeyNuked ?06:43
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intelikeyNuked pastebin the list.06:44
Nuked!pastebin06:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:44
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Nukedintelikey: for libnspr4-dev http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37294/06:45
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intelikeyhmmmm only 23m  lets see at 4k/s that....06:45
navaburo_anyone here have working java in firefox 2 on edgy?06:46
Nukedintelikey: for removing firefox06:46
max_anyone use Beryl?06:46
Nukedhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37295/06:46
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Nukedyes max I do06:47
Nukednever got the water plugin to work06:47
Nukedor the flames06:47
intelikeyNuked that's not much.   go for it.06:47
drkmnavaburo_: I do06:47
max_do you know if XGL does anything AIGLX cant?06:47
Nukedmax, personally I prefer aiglx06:47
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Nukedintelikey: are you serious?06:47
Nukedare you saying I should remove the fox06:48
intelikeyNuked yes about 30 apps/libs  and all gnome.06:48
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intelikeyor should is say all of them gnome.06:48
Nukedso basically remove gnome06:49
Nuked?06:49
navaburo_drkm, how did you get it installed?06:49
intelikeyNuked no only the few apps06:49
intelikeygnome will still be there.06:49
Nukedwill it be crippled?06:49
drkmI used easyubuntu and installed it through that06:50
intelikeyNuked and you are doing this to update ff correct ?06:50
drkmtook about 3 clicks06:50
intelikey!ff06:50
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:50
drkmbrb06:50
Nukedno intelikey to get gaim encryption, latest avidemux and if I feel like it the new ff06:50
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intelikeyNuked  k so you do this then install the new ff and ubuntu-desktop   it puts back everything in that list.06:51
Nukedexcellent06:51
Nukedlet me try this out06:52
Nukedyou gonna stick around?06:52
intelikeyand like i said that's not a big list.06:52
intelikeyno not for very long.06:52
Nukedlo06:52
Nukedl06:52
xsachawhat does "pinwheels" mean?06:52
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intelikeyyou must have not read the lines 1 & 23   nuked.    the top 70% is not going to be removed....06:54
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Nukedintelikey: good point06:55
j_errr, actually I need to get rid of the last four characters too06:55
Nuked@@!!06:55
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intelikeyj_ that would require something else if the lines are not all the same liength06:57
intelikeyare they ?06:57
j_nope06:57
j_tried googling, couldn't find an answer06:57
intelikeysed is your answer06:58
j_tried googling, couldn't find an answer but I couldn't find the relevant part06:58
intelikeybut as to the exact syntax....  i'd have to fiddle around with it.06:58
j_damn06:58
j_too early, hit the up arrow accidently06:58
j_found it07:00
j_maybe, this is untested apparently07:00
xsachaanyone know what  "pinwheels" mean?07:01
j_sed -e 's/.$//'07:01
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j_I really don't understand regexp at all07:01
xsachawhy not?07:01
goodthinghmm, debian does not help me any further, in fact the installtion stalls at "loading "ide-disk" for "Linux ATA DISK"07:01
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j_well ok, here s stands for substite, . for any character and // is nothing07:02
menteckwhere is firefox at i cant find it07:02
j_how is that intuitive?07:02
menteck!firefox07:02
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins07:02
j_regexp is hieroglyphs basicly07:02
j_too short07:03
goodthingmenteck: can not find what, to install or to run?07:04
menteckfirefox i cant seeom to find it to run it07:04
goodthingmenteck: K-menu->internet07:05
menteckits no there07:05
menteckit not there07:05
goodthingmenteck: otherwise you could always do alt+F2 and type firefox there07:05
menteckthanx07:05
menteckdid not find command07:06
goodthingmenteck: or try running kbuildsycoca07:06
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goodthingthen firefox is either not installed or the system is messed up07:06
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mentecki checked the packege system and it says it is installed07:06
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j_hmm, didn't work07:07
goodthingmenteck: what does "which firefox" tell you?07:07
intelikeyj_ something like and you would want to test and adjust this...  sed 's/^....//g inputfile | sed 's/....$//g' > outputfile07:07
menteckwhat do you mean?07:07
intelikeyand i know that it sould be one pass but didn't want to waste the time finding out how.07:08
intelikeyshould07:08
goodthingmenteck: if you give that command in a terminal emulator (i.e. konsole) the system should show you your lath to run firefox07:08
goodthing*path07:08
menteckit say invalid command07:09
menteckcommand not found07:09
intelikeyj_ that assumes unix line ends    if it's some outher markup  i'm not sure that $ will work.07:09
goodthingwithout the "?07:09
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j_should be07:09
Nukedthis has seriously made me think about switching distros07:09
intelikeyj_ also  . per char   encluding white space.07:10
menteckwhere dos fire fox get intalled at07:10
j_thats ok07:10
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intelikeydid you try that   ?07:10
mentecksorry it is getting late here and i need to get some sleep so i will fix the towmmorw07:11
j_doesn't want to run07:11
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carutsuhello07:11
Dr_willisHowdys07:11
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intelikeyecho '1234first and last4321' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'07:12
Nukedjeez, I think ubuntu is trying to give me a stroke07:12
carutsui was playing a video in firefox (and also in Konqeuror) and the sound just07:12
carutsuis slower than the video07:12
intelikeyj_ that test works here.07:12
j_I hit enter and it just changes the line07:13
intelikeythen you missed a '  or used a `  either way it's a quote issue.07:13
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intelikeycopy and paste this line.07:14
intelikeyecho '1234first and last4321' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'07:14
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j_did that07:14
intelikeyand it does work ?07:14
j_yep07:14
intelikeynow use the last part of it to build your command.07:15
intelikeyecho '1234first and last4321' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'07:15
intelikeyoops07:15
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intelikeysed 's/^....//g' inputfile | sed 's/....$//g' > outputfile07:15
carutsusince Intelikey is bussy isn't anyone else?07:15
Dr_willisis it a flash video? or embeded some other player type video....07:16
carutsuflash video07:16
carutsuthank you Dr_willis07:16
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carutsui tried to play it with Firefox and Konqueror to see if was one of them, however same problem with booth07:17
j_that did it! thanks a million intelikey07:17
carutsuactually is the linux video hosted in youtube n_n07:17
Dr_willisFlash has a lot of issues07:17
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Dr_willisyou sure its not the video thats  just messed up.,07:17
Dr_williswhats the url? ill check here.07:17
carutsutotally i played 2 videos07:17
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carutsulet me ses...07:17
carutsusee07:18
carutsuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZmJ63sHoKU07:18
intelikeyi like sed and echo and bash ........  :)07:18
intelikeyecho '1234first and last432107:18
intelikey1234 second stage 123407:18
intelikey 1234 with spaces 432107:18
intelikey' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'07:18
intelikeytheres a good test patern ^07:18
j_I'll save this for later use07:18
Dr_williscarutsu,  the sound is in sync here07:19
carutsusee, that is what i try to fix here07:19
Dr_williscarutsu,  ive seen that video included on some LiveCD's also. :) i forget which one.07:20
Dr_willisI tracked it down once to PROVE to a guy how to pronounce linux.07:20
Dr_willis:)07:20
carutsui love that video n_N07:20
carutsun_n07:20
carutsuit is just awsome07:20
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carutsulol07:21
carutsucarutsu remembers him that i'm still in troubles here07:21
intelikeyLee Nux07:21
carutsulol, im sorry couldn't stop myself07:21
Dr_willisI seem to recall that comercial was shown during the superbowl halftime wasent it?07:22
carutsuwhat are you using for playing? what distro do you have?07:22
Dr_willisUsing Kubuntu,07:23
intelikeylinus recorded a sound test file and said "i pronounce, linux Lee Nux"  and seeing that he wrote and named it, that must be the proper way.07:23
Dr_willisor did i install LinuxMint on this box..   I forget now...07:23
Dr_willisKubuntu, edgy eft, firefox 2.007:23
carutsulike myself07:23
carutsumust be something else07:23
carutsudriver or something07:23
Dr_willisI do have a Nice Creative Audigy z2 card07:24
carutsuthis is a laptop07:24
Dr_willisand rarely have ANY sound issues with anything. :)07:24
intelikeywell if #kubuntu can't help with scanner problems where does one go ?07:24
carutsuhey btw is there a way to restore backspace to go back in the (is this word right) history07:24
carutsuin firefox?07:25
intelikeyword is right07:25
carutsuright now it is like pg uo but i dislike that07:25
Dr_willisIve herd theres a setting to do that.. but i never use that key... so never noticed...07:26
Dr_willis:)07:26
carutsuthank you, as you can see, english is not my native language07:26
Dr_willisothers have asked the same question.. i just havent paid attention to the answer they get.07:26
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j_perfect, managed to remove extra whitespace on my own, good day to you gentlemen/women07:26
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intelikeymozilla used to put that in  edit > preferances > look&feel  or some such.07:27
intelikeyok i'm went.07:28
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idawoodHi every one07:30
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[Relic] I am thinking this section of the disk didn't get formatted07:30
idawoodI need little help for Kubuntu 6.1007:30
Dr_willishmm...07:31
idawoodby default in storage media folder the hard drives (partitioned ) are mounted as hda5, hda7 etc07:31
idawoodbut in ubuntu the are mounted as same names as I named them in windows.07:32
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idawoodso it is possible to rename them or the should be mounted as the default names of window partitions07:32
Dr_willis'in ubuntu' you mean in the  media:/  location in konqueror?07:33
Dr_willismedia:/  I think uses the drives labels as a 'smarter name'   or you can  use "/media" to see them with their mount point names.07:33
idawoodyes, actually you can see you Fat32 partitions on the desktop07:33
Dr_willisI dont see them on my desktop. :) i got them hidden. heh07:34
idawoodwhere as in kubuntu it's are in storage media folder07:34
idawoodthat's what you chose :)07:34
Dr_willisI made a dir i call "Drives" with links to the drives i normally access. so i can name them what i want,.,. and give them custome icons07:34
idawoodnow can you please tell me how I can rename them, or the should be mounted as the name is windows like docs, softwares, songs07:34
Dr_willisIts a little odd how media:/ and /media differ.  You can change the hda7 or whatever you want  by editing the fstab.07:35
idawoodetc07:35
idawoodcoz in hda7, hda8 kind of naming it's hard to remember which partition contains what07:35
Dr_willisif the drive label/name under windows was 'docs' i thought media:/ showed it as 'docs'07:35
idawoodok07:35
Dr_willistry entering 'media:/' in konqueror07:35
Dr_willisTHEN try '/media'07:36
idawoodhow to edit fstab07:36
Dr_williswith a text editor.. and some skill. :)07:36
idawoodyes you got my point now07:36
idawoodit shows 'Docs' in ubuntu but not in kubuntu, in kubuntu it's showns as hda707:36
Dr_willisYou mean under GNOME in ubuntu?07:37
idawoodhey doc07:37
idawoodthanx man07:37
idawoodTHEN try '/media07:37
Dr_willisMy C: is called 'WinBoot' under Kubuntu in the 'Media:/'  area07:37
idawoodshowed the same names as under windows07:37
Dr_willisits called 'hda1' under '/media'07:37
idawoodwhat's the diffrence between both of them07:38
Dr_willis /media is the name of the actial dir/mount points07:38
idawoodmedia:/  shows window naming07:38
Dr_willismedia: is trying to be 'smart'07:38
Dr_willissome times it fails very badly :)07:39
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Dr_willis'media:' is tecnkiocially a 'kioslave' that gives konqueror special features..07:39
Dr_willisworth looking into and learning about all the special kioslaves07:40
Dr_willistry 'apt:/'07:40
Jucatoapt:/ man:/ help:/07:40
Jucatolocate:/07:40
Dr_willisIm not sure why the 'system menu' i got gos to /media instead of media:/07:40
Jucato(btw, apt:/ is a Kubuntu-only kioslave)07:41
idawoodwhat do you mean by fails very badly07:41
idawoodis it unsafe to use07:41
JucatoDr_willis: it has been changed in Edgy. all references to media:/ has been changed to /media07:41
Dr_willisif ya got 3 drives with no names.. well it can be confused.07:41
[Relic] is there a way to detemine what is on a HD mount?  I am getting the idea that this thing was never formatted since I keep getting errors when trying to mount it07:41
Dr_willisnot hurting anything - its just not helpfull.07:41
Dr_williswhich is why i did the links07:41
Dr_willisremote:/  is nice07:41
JucatoDr_willis: actually, for some reasons, media:/ is hurting some... because it doesn't work across all apps, for one07:42
Jucato(by all, I mean both KDE and GNOME apps)07:42
Jucatothere were other technical reasons. I just forgot them. and even the kde devs would agree, media:/ needs some work...07:42
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idawoodnow I created a link to media:/ and named as MyDrivers07:44
idawoodso it's very fine07:44
idawoodmy problem is solved until the media:/ won't be failed07:45
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idawoodI'm in IN07:45
idawoodso i've to work on Solaris 907:45
Jucatohm.. is there a way to direct dpkg to install to /usr/local?07:45
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binary2k2Jucato: nope07:50
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goodthingwhy is the debian installation dead slow and the ubuntu installation done in a sec?07:51
goodthingdebian takes ages07:52
binary2k2debian installs more packages07:52
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goodthingnah, i am only talking about loading ide stuff and detecting the hard disk07:52
idawoodObviously ubuntu has been pre compiled and made in packaged form07:52
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binary2k2so is debian07:53
machoo02umm....ubuntu is based on debian07:53
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binary2k2maybe the ubuntu guys tweeked the installer07:53
Jucatowhich installer?07:53
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idawoodahan07:54
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idawoodno goodthing is talking about detecting ide stuff only07:54
goodthingJucato: installer from the cd, the text-install07:54
binary2k2the debian installer, the one that loads all the udebs07:54
Jucatoah07:54
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idawoodmay be DMA and things like that  are proper and pre configured to work quickly in Ubuntu07:55
idawoodwhere as you have to do it yourself07:55
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goodthingreally insane, i am installing more than one hour already and the first package still needs to go written to my disk(?)07:55
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idawoodin debian07:55
BrigadierFrogis there an update-alternative for qt4?07:55
idawoodwhy are you using debian? any specific reason for this brain storming :)07:56
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killeroyheh, maybe you got the gentoo branch of Debian07:56
binary2k2:p07:56
idawoodhave you searched www.sourceforge.net and www.freshmeat.net for qt407:57
goodthinglol07:57
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idawoodyea! most of average even advance users don't have to compile this debian stuff07:58
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idawoodbut still it's much better than Solaris 9 :P07:59
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lakhiaHi08:00
killeroystarwatcher - I see you use wildblue08:00
goodthingidawood: because i experienced problems with a three disk installation under kubuntu. I wanted to try the newer to see if that would fix anything here08:00
killeroyhow do you like it?08:00
lakhiaI just installed 6.1008:01
goodthingbut it is starting to look like debian installation needs some custom command08:01
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goodthinglakhia: and you like it?08:02
lakhiagoodthing: yeah, much more than 5.0408:03
lakhiaor was it 5.1008:03
jbruckmani'm having some problems with my audio. I imagine it's because I have a TV tuner card istalled, and it's classifying that as a sound device. I don't know how to make it detect and use my onboard sound card though. ANy help?08:03
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killeroyspeaking of 6.10 - has anyone else had an issue where their xorg config resets itself from time to time?08:03
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binary2k2!sound | jbruckman08:03
ubotujbruckman: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:03
killeroyoccasionally it complains about not finding a correct mode for my monitor08:04
lakhiagoodthing: i just have a few minor annoyances in kde08:04
jbruckmanbinary2k2: I'm pretty sure i've read those the last time i was bothering with this... and it led to nothing, but i'll look again08:04
lakhiagoodthing: but overall I am pretty impressed08:04
killeroyas I had to muck around with my xorg.conf fle to get a 1280x1024 60Hz setting08:04
goodthinglakhia: 5.10, wasn't that breezy?08:05
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lakhiagoodthing: yeah, that's the one I had08:05
lakhiagoodthing: I skipped dapper08:05
goodthingoh, then you missed the better versiob08:05
goodthing*version08:05
goodthingdapper rocks the most IMO08:05
lakhiagoodthing: really?08:05
goodthingwell, i might be biased seeing i have edgy only running for some days08:06
lakhiagoodthing: Well, I wanted to try the faster boot times for edgy08:06
jbruckmanaplay doesn't give me any output. what do I do now?08:07
goodthingyeah, that really is something nice :)08:07
lakhiagoodthing: have had problems in the past few days?08:07
killeroyif I may chime in, despite some problems, I do like edgy a bit more than dapper08:07
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goodthinglakhia: other than my new 750GB disk not a single issue08:07
killeroythen again that may be more the result of me liking KDE more than GNOME as I've only used Ubuntu dapper08:07
killeroyand am using Kubuntu Edgy08:08
lakhiagoodthing: that's not bad08:08
lakhiakilleroy: yeah, that can be a factor, definitely08:08
idawoodgoodthing: use kubuntu or ubuntu 6.1008:09
lakhiagoodthing: so far no hardware problems with my dell inspiron laptop08:09
goodthingidawood: i do, but i wanted to install debian some day anyway08:10
idawoodor there is another good distro if you are just like to try diffrent distros08:10
goodthinglike? :)08:10
idawoodthat's freespire08:10
goodthingnope, would not do it for me i guess08:11
idawoodahan08:11
lakhiabtw, what is a good video player for linux? I tried kaffiene and mplayer so far08:11
killeroyvlc?08:11
idawoodthey try debian08:11
idawoodthen*08:11
lakhiado dvd nav menus work in vlc?08:11
idawoodinstalling debian give good hand on experience to linux08:12
lakhiai need something which my wife can use ... and mplayer doesn't cut it (guessing dvd://1 ... dvd://5 is too much for her)08:12
killeroynot really sure - I've not watched a DVD on my PC for a long time08:12
idawoodvlc is good video player08:12
idawoodyou can try totem too08:13
lakhiawhat's the diff b/w the two?08:13
matthewidawood, or kaffeine, my personal favorite!08:13
lakhiatried finding reviews but no luck08:13
Admiral_Chicago!sound08:13
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:13
goodthinglakhia: you could try kmplayer, kaffeine and codeine, those i think are the most friendly08:14
idawoodfor most they are both videwo players08:14
lakhiaI like kaffeine ... but it occasionally hanged in 5.10.08:14
idawoodvlc is good to know to play most formats easily and efficiently08:14
matthewI had to killall kaffeine once under edgy, but no further problems...08:14
idawoodit's light weight player08:15
idawoodand works fine, quickly and efficiently08:15
lakhiaok, I guess I will stick with kaffeine for now and see how it goes08:15
lakhiahmm, thanks guys ... vlc sounds interesting too08:15
idawoodif you need a player for DVD08:16
killeroywell I'm sure kaffeine has had quite a few improvements since 5.1008:16
idawoodyou can try LinDVD, if you can find it08:16
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idawoodyes it has08:17
lakhialindvd is commercial and closed source, it seems from their web page08:18
nixternalwow, LinDVD is the biggest clunk of #@$)*$# out there, and lakhia is right, gotta pay for it and can't hack it08:18
nixternali am using kaffeine right now to play dvds, but i am thinking about giving vlc another shot...mplayer used to play them and all of a sudden stopped doing so08:19
idawoodso what do you think about which one is best audio player08:19
lakhiaI've been using xmms ... but I hate it's interface if you need to do anything else besides playing08:20
idawoodamarok is good08:20
lakhiawonder when xmms2 will be ready08:20
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killeroylove amarok08:21
idawoodfreespire has Lsongs08:21
lakhiai tried using it once but never got hooked08:21
idawoodam not sure if it's amarok based08:21
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idawoodok08:22
idawoodI just remembered I need a good image manager viewer08:22
idawoodwhich one should I use08:22
goodthingidawood: looks like a combination of amarok with musikcube08:23
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idawoodany suggestion?08:24
killeroy_gbbah, such a wonky connection08:24
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idawoodgoodthing: I'm talking about image viewer, manager08:25
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idawoodlike ACDSee, Picasa for windows08:25
idawoodPicasa for linux is also available but it works slow08:25
lakhiadoes digikam help with managing loads of pics?08:26
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idawoodit's preinstalled in Edgy08:26
goodthingidawood: and i about Lsongs. But what is wrong with gwenview?08:26
lakhiaseems to support tags, comments, etc.08:27
idawoodbut it too loads pictures slowly08:27
lakhiaoh, ok. Never used it. Am still hooked to Adobe's photoalbum. Need to kick the habit one of these days08:28
lakhiaWhat about KPhotoAlbum (formerly named KimDaba)?08:29
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idawoodlakhia: didn't tried this one, is it good08:31
lakhiaidawood: I haven't either. The kphotoalbum has testimonials and screenshots. Seems like it might do the job08:32
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lakhiathere is a 3minute video that shows how easy it is to tag pics08:33
idawoodactually i need a light weight viewer which can quickly load and display pictures instead of loading with transitions08:33
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lakhiathat's what this looks like ... the interface is pretty simple.08:34
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idawoodok I'll try it08:35
lakhiasounds good ... I think I'll give it a try too08:36
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lakhiawhen I sit on my big iron desktop machine that has my picture collection08:36
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lakhiaanyone tried Feisty?08:38
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idawooddoes amarok supports equalizer08:39
manchickenidawood: Yeah.  Tools->Equalizer.08:39
lakhiawow! which part?08:39
lakhiaI'm too chicken to try it just yet08:40
manchickenThe system settings proggy.  I can't get this thing to compile for the life of me.  heh.  I shouldn't be hacking so late on so little sleep.08:40
manchickenI've got it in a chroot, so there's no risk for me ^_^08:40
lakhia:)08:40
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manchickenI'm going to bed in 15 minutes whether I'm done or not.08:41
lakhiai'm about to doze off here too and all I'm doing is typing08:41
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lakhiaI've been wanting to get started coding ... but just haven't gotten around to it08:42
idawoodlakhia are you indian08:43
lakhiaer, I mean coding on kde (I already code for work)08:43
manchickenWhat are you waiting for?08:43
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lakhiaidawood: close enuf ... Pakistani08:43
manchickenGet on it.08:43
lakhiaI know ... I think it is just the initial hurdle so set things up etc08:44
idawoodclose enough :)08:44
idawoodme too paki08:44
lakhiaplus, I don't have a compelling itch to scratch08:44
manchickenlakhia: Setting up chroot to build is insanely simple.08:44
manchickenI'm scratching someone else's itch right now.08:44
manchickenhe08:44
manchickenh08:44
lakhiaidawood: cool!08:44
lakhiahehehe!08:45
manchickenThis could be the last build of the night....08:45
lakhiais there a doc on how to do this? The only time I did chroot was for installing gentoo08:45
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idawood:)08:45
lakhiaidawood: so, dawood is your last name?08:46
seven11anyone an idea why some of the packages come back with an gzip error when i do apt-get update?08:47
idawood:) yes08:47
lakhiamanchicken: I hope you got it to compile08:47
manchickenMe too.08:48
seven11why?08:48
idawoodIt's Imran Dawood08:48
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idawoodmay be not zipped properly or may be not downloaded fully08:48
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lakhiamanchicken: congratz!08:49
seven11every time i do update it comes back with gzip error08:49
seven11Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:49
idawoodchange the repositiries08:49
seven11?08:49
idawoodtry to main servers of ubutunu08:50
idawoodtry main servers of ubuntu08:50
lakhiareplace au.archive with us.archive (in /etc/apt/sources.txt)08:50
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seven11i choose au because it is closer but i will give us a try08:51
lakhiasorry, that's sources.list, not sources.txt08:51
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seven11jo i guessed so08:51
idawoodseven: you did right but the source you are using have corrupted gzip file08:51
idawoodso it's better to try some other source repositry08:51
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idawoodok Have to go08:52
idawoodgotta go on job :(08:52
lakhiasee you, Imran08:52
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lakhiagood luck with kphotoalbum08:53
idawoodthanx every one08:53
idawoodyea thanx :)08:53
idawoodBye08:53
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lakhiaany luck, seven11?08:53
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fribuntuHi all08:54
lakhiahi08:54
killeroyhello08:54
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fribuntuWhat is the apt repository for the "bad" stuff like w32codecs or mscorettf, etc.?08:54
seven11jo lakhia works with us08:55
seven11thanks08:55
lakhiacool08:55
lakhiait's was idawood's idea ... :)08:55
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fribuntuIs there something like "debian-multimedia.org" for kubuntu?08:55
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lakhiafribuntu: did you try the universe multiverse repository?08:56
fribuntulakhia: yep.08:56
fribuntulakhia: It is not in there.08:56
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killeroyperhaps its in one of the PLF repos08:57
lakhiahttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories08:57
fribuntulakhia: Apparently it is so bad, they don't want it anywhere near the official packages.08:57
fribuntulakhia: I know how to add repositories, I just don't know which repository to add.08:57
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lakhiago to the site .. and paste everything in the box08:58
lakhiainto an empty sources.list08:59
lakhiamake a backup (just in case)08:59
lakhiadoing that worked for me08:59
fribuntukilleroy: what is PLF? Do you have an URL?08:59
killeroypenguin liberation front09:00
lakhiaI don't know which of those repositories has w2codes but one of them does09:00
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killeroyurl from ubuntuguide is as follows: deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/09:01
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fribuntulakhia: Aha, there are PLF repositories listed in your box.09:01
fribuntukilleroy: thanks!09:01
lakhiafribuntu: ok, maybe that's the one (I knew one of them had it)09:01
firebird619Could someone help me? I am trying to install kdenlive, but it says Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.7) but 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 is to be installed. IT also says the same for other packages. How can I fix this?09:02
lakhiawell, going to bed09:03
lakhiagood night guys09:03
killeroynight09:03
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xsachadamn i so want this patch in: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/6072609:08
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crimsun_xsacha: doesn't seem relevant in feisty.09:20
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seven11anyone knows a program which can make on pdf file out of many single ones?09:22
xsachacrimsun_: aiglx supports pixel shaders in feisty?09:22
crimsun_xsacha: I can't seem to find that error message in the logs.09:23
unix_infidelseven11: the only possible way i can think of is to import via OO.org and then export as one pdf09:23
unix_infidelotherwise get Acrobat 7 Pro for Win32.09:23
unix_infidelI beleive even cxoffice supports it.09:24
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seven11i tryed OO but it couldn't read the pdf file09:24
unix_infidelseven11: then use acrobat pro.09:24
seven11free?09:24
unix_infidelis it all text?09:24
unix_infidelseven11: of course not, its like 400 dollar software :)09:25
seven11:(09:25
seven11nop thanks09:25
seven11i will find another way09:25
unix_infidelseven11: if its all just basically rich text export it to a more usable file.09:25
unix_infidelif its not i'm sure openoffice can find a way to open it.09:25
seven11i will give it another try09:25
seven11i will post it here if i find a way09:26
unix_infidelwin32 has a lot of novel pdf manip methods.09:26
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xsachacrimsun_: logs of what?09:27
xsachano error, just pixel shaders arent available..    glxinfo -i | grep fragment_program09:28
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crimsun_xsacha: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors09:30
xsachacrimsun_: using aiglx? what output of glxinfo -i | grep fragment_program      on feisty?09:30
christianeHello. How can I define the ID of a partition? cfdisk, sfdik?09:31
crimsun_xsacha: nothing relevant.09:31
xsachak, that patch needs to be added09:31
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shinobi2hi09:33
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tbeHiloo everyone09:38
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tamacrackerHey guys...09:42
tamacrackerWhere's my Screen shot program located?09:42
tamacrackerIt's not under the Utilities option >.>09:42
matthewtamacracker, the printscreen button.09:42
Jucatotamacracker: K Menu -> Graphics -> KSnapshot09:42
tamacrackerI can just hit the print screen09:42
tamacrackeroh ok Jucato09:42
matthewlol09:42
tamacrackeri didn't know Linux had that option like Windows >.>09:43
Jucatoof course you can hit the Print Screen button09:43
tamacrackerHa... sweet09:43
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tamacracker>.> Newbs tend to be scared of new things maybe? ha09:43
tamacrackerThanks matthew and Jucato09:43
matthewtamacracker, I'm kind of the quick and dirty kind of guy...why bother with the program name when there's a button? lol09:43
tamacrackerI know, shortcuts are always better09:44
tamacrackerI just didn't know it worked lol09:44
kilraeit's new09:44
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matthewnow if I could get my windows button to pop up the Kmenu...09:45
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tamacrackerYeah that would be sweet!09:45
matthewI know I can, I'm just too lazy to figure it out...lol09:46
tamacrackerha09:46
tamacrackeryeah key shortcuts09:46
matthewanyone have any ideas?09:46
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Jucatogoogle?09:47
unix_infideluse a wm and not a de :P09:47
matthewJucato, or something...09:47
matthewlike...enlightenment?09:47
Jucatothe disadvantage of mapping Win key for the K Menu alone, is that you can't use it for anything else09:47
unix_infidelew, no.09:47
tamacracker:D09:47
tamacrackerYeah... like Beryl09:48
matthewJucato, but I'm not using it for anything now...09:48
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unix_infidelw00t09:48
tamacrackerBeryl uses it with some of their eyecandies09:48
tamacracker>.> is that an old keyboard?09:48
unix_infideltamacracker: no, of course not.09:48
matthewtamacracker, I've got a rage 128 pro w/ NO 3d/OpenGL...really sucks, but I'm working on getting an nvidia...09:48
tamacrackeror just one specifically without am.09:48
Jucatomatthew: then time to use it for something :)09:48
unix_infideltamacracker: no, i'll give you a hint though.09:49
tamacrackernvidia = niiice09:49
Jucatobesides, why use the K Menu when you can use Katapult :)09:49
tamacrackerMac?09:49
matthewtamacracker, it's a 104 key keyboard.09:49
unix_infidelIt's the same keyboard the Creator of Facebook.com and the BSD dev's use :)09:49
tamacrackerha09:49
tamacrackerJucato... very tru.09:49
unix_infidelno joke either :)09:49
matthewunix_infidel, I bet you want me to use compiz or glx...huh?09:49
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Jucatodvorak?09:49
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unix_infidelmatthew: i use X primarily to spawn $TERMs09:50
unix_infidelso flux works fairly well for me.09:50
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matthewunix_infidel, nice. I used fluxbox for a while, very very minimal, very nice. I liked it for old, old machines...09:50
unix_infideli like it for fast machines.09:50
unix_infidelgo figure, get work done quickly so i can go play :)09:51
matthewunix_infidel, I like mah eye-candy09:51
matthewunix_infidel, fortunately, I don't work with my machine!09:51
unix_infidelmatthew: no problem with eye candy.  WE just have TOTALLY different views on the definition of eye candy!09:51
matthewat least, not this one.09:51
matthewunix_infidel, so, in your view, would a tool-bar be eyecandy?09:51
matthewlol09:51
unix_infidelLike I said, i like minimalist get work done ennvironment so I can go play.09:52
unix_infidelThen its eye candy time :)09:52
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matthewunix_infidel, what're you running?09:52
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matthewspecs, please09:52
unix_infidelmatthew: lots of stuff.09:52
matthewproc, hdd, mobo, gfx...etc...lol09:52
unix_infidelanywhere from 500mhz p3, to dual g5 powermac to 8 way xeon.09:52
pulltabIsn't there somehow someway to open a rar file in kubuntu?09:53
matthewunix_infidel, I've got this old P3 900Mhz box w/ 512 RAM09:53
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tamacrackerAll I need is a dock... and I'm satisfied with workspeed.09:53
matthewunix_infidel, whoa, Xeon!?!?!09:53
tamacrackerpulltab09:53
pulltabyes?09:53
tamacrackeropen Adept Manager09:53
digitalfreedomaight dewds girls im trying to install nmap with the X GUI front end and im getting this error saying that i have no gtk installed but im sure as i just used adept to get it anycertain gtk i should get?09:53
fdovingpulltab: you need to install unrar i guess.09:53
pulltabok...09:53
fdoving!unrar-nonfree09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
tamacrackerand download unrar non-free version09:53
unix_infidelor you can use 7zip :)09:53
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tamacrackerI'm sure you have Ark.09:54
fdoving7zip fails on some .rars, works on most though..09:54
sukhhi09:54
matthewdigitalfreedom, try this: sudo apt-get install nmap09:54
digitalfreedomi did that09:54
matthewoh09:54
matthewlol09:54
digitalfreedombut i want to try the GUI09:54
sukhanyone know how to stop the bouncing icon beside the mouse when you start an app?09:54
unix_infidelfdoving: is correct unfortunately, its designed to handle 7z but its fairly versatile as it is.09:54
matthewthe GNOME desktop?09:54
digitalfreedomKDE09:54
digitalfreedomoh lol not me09:54
matthewdigitalfreedom, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:54
tamacrackerI like the bouncing icon :(09:55
tamacracker:D09:55
digitalfreedomi have KDE09:55
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matthewdigitalfreedom, do you want to use GNOME?09:55
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sukhits so anoying09:55
digitalfreedomits not that let me find the error..no im not up for GNOME09:55
matthewdigitalfreedom, ok09:55
tamacrackerbut honestly, I don't know how to get rid of the bouncing icon.09:55
sukh:(09:55
digitalfreedomnmapfe.c:114:2: error: #error "Your system does not appear to have GTK (www.gtk.                                                                                                   org) installed.  Thus the Nmap X Front End will not compile.09:55
matthewIt's under system settings09:55
matthewI know that much09:56
matthewlol09:56
unix_infidellol.09:56
matthewnot you, digitalfreedom09:56
sukhtoo many settings..ive gone through it twice and i acnt find it09:56
matthewdigitalfreedom, umm, no idea...sorry09:56
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digitalfreedomsukh: diffrent theme maybe?09:56
digitalfreedomme neither09:56
digitalfreedomi jsut got all the XML gui and C++ gtk bindings09:56
fdovingsukh: k -> run command 'kcmshell kcmlaunch'09:56
digitalfreedomits not working09:57
digitalfreedom:(09:57
digitalfreedomtime for some single malt whiskey09:57
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unix_infidelmake it a double.09:57
sukhawsome thanks, any clue as to how you found that?09:57
fdovingsukh: i know it's there. for more options than the ones available in system settings you can use the kde control center. K -> Run Command -> 'kcontrol'09:58
unix_infidelfdoving: how hard has it been getting new people ubuntu cloaks lately?09:58
matthewyou can also run that from the cli09:58
sukhthanks once again...time to go to bed. :)09:58
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fdovingsukh: also.. in a terminal, you can run 'kcmshell --list' to get a complete list of modules.09:59
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fdovingunix_infidel: no idea. i'm not into those things.10:00
unix_infidelfdoving: I took a shot :)10:00
matthew unix_infidel, what are unix cloaks?10:00
matthewI mean, ubuntu cloaks.10:00
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fdoving!cloak10:01
ubotuTor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks10:01
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matthewah10:01
matthewunix_infidel, do you need one?10:02
unix_infidelmatthew: do i need a cloak, no.  I already have one.10:02
matthewah, ok.10:02
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matthewI really don't see the point if I'm not visiting "adult" sites...lol10:02
matthewmaybe if I was ssh'ing somewhere...10:03
fdovingit's for IRC only.10:03
unix_infidelmatthew: I think you misunderstand the definition.10:03
digitalfreedomim so in dep-hell right now10:03
digitalfreedom:(10:03
matthewdigitalfreedom, use synaptic10:03
unix_infideldigitalfreedom: running red hat eh?10:03
unix_infidel:)10:03
matthewsudo apt-get install synaptic...10:03
crystalcan someone help me?10:03
matthew!someone10:03
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:03
tamacrackerso gettin cloak is actually a good thing eh?10:03
tamacrackerBeneficial?10:04
matthewcrystal, what can we do for you?10:04
unix_infideltamacracker: like most all things it a matter of convention.10:04
tamacrackerconvention?10:04
matthewunix_infidel, or conviction, lol10:04
crystalI cannot get the driver for my video card installed to support 3d acceleration10:04
tamacrackerlol10:04
crystalor installed right period10:04
tamacrackeroh wit10:05
tamacrackerwait*10:05
matthewcrystal, what is the graphics card, which driver, where did you get it, and what OS?10:05
tamacrackercloak is for IRC.10:05
digitalfreedomi am mat10:05
digitalfreedomunix i mean10:05
digitalfreedompango geezz10:05
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tamacracker<,< I wish I could listen to AM radio stations10:06
crystalati radeon x200m, fglrx, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665, kubuntu edgy10:06
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tamacrackeron pc that is.10:06
pulltabWhen Ever I try to unrar a RAR in ARC it show error "10:06
pulltabThe utility unrar is not in your PATH.10:06
pulltabPlease install it or contact your system administrator.10:06
matthewhmmm, ATI is def a hard one to play with...I honestly can't help much, sorry.10:07
Jucatopulltab: install the package "unrar"10:07
tamacrackerpulltab...10:07
tamacrackeri just gave you instructions.10:07
tamacrackeropen up Adept Manager10:07
pulltabI have a file called unrar that has a icon like a gear, and I've tried putting it every path I can think of10:07
Jucatopulltab: from multiverse, or "unrar-free" (from universe)10:07
tamacrackertype in unrar10:07
digitalfreedomwell i got bigger problems now thunderbird wont open nor firefox the icons went away and replaced with the "gear"10:07
pulltabthere is no package unrar10:07
tamacrackerand use unrar non-free version >.>10:07
pulltabBRB10:07
Jucato.....10:07
tamacrackeroh maybe you need to change your adept settings10:07
digitalfreedommore single malt whiskey by the bottoe full is now called for10:07
matthewcrystal, ok, so, what part of the instruction didn't work?10:08
matthewI'm looking at the page now10:08
crystalwhen i run the glxinfo | grep direct it says that the display cannot be loaded (null)10:09
digitalfreedomwhat does malformatted mean?10:09
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matthewcrystal, try running glxgears from the Command Prompt...what happens?10:09
matthewcrystal, also, what is the error that you get?10:10
crystalError: couldn't open display (null)10:10
crystalfor both10:10
matthewcrystal, yeah, sorry, shoulda seen that...10:10
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digitalfreedommalformatted anyone?10:10
crystalis ok10:10
matthew!pastebin | crystal10:10
ubotucrystal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:10
matthewcrystal, paste your xorg.conf there, please10:11
digitalfreedomhe piped crystal10:11
digitalfreedomlol10:11
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pulltabsynaptic has 0 results for "unrar"10:11
digitalfreedomgtk just killed my computer10:11
digitalfreedomawsome10:11
matthewcrystal, then tell me the url of the page...10:11
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crystalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37303/10:13
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matthewcrystal, ok, h/o10:13
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matthewcrystal, I assume you've rebooted?10:15
crystalyes i have\10:15
matthewcrystal, ok, I'm out of ideas...sorry10:15
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matthewanyone else have anything to add?10:15
crystalwell thank you for your help i will look into the other irc10:16
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matthewok, good luck, crystal10:16
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digitalfreedomwell that sucked10:26
digitalfreedomi got gtk stuff and lost firefox10:26
digitalfreedomand thunderbird10:26
digitalfreedomhad to reinstal lthem both10:26
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digitalfreedomo.010:27
matsreinstalling? :p10:27
digitalfreedomhad too10:27
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matshehe, strange10:27
digitalfreedomthe shortcut i clicked on said they were malformatted10:27
digitalfreedomLOL10:27
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digitalfreedomit worked fine till i got the gtk stuff10:28
digitalfreedomand pango10:28
digitalfreedombleh10:28
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llutzMoin10:29
matsdigitalfreedom: heh - now you blowed my mind :p10:29
matsthats not tipical10:29
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sbonetehello everyone11:09
volocawte je ut niekto zo slovenska??11:09
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nuxilHello guys11:09
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voloslovakia?11:09
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nuxilvolo, no norway11:10
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zorglu_!sl11:10
ubotusl: Correct you if you type `sl' by mistake. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-14 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 132 kB11:10
zorglu_moauoaua :)11:11
voloslovakiaaaaaaa je ut niekto???11:11
nuxilim trying to get the output from  nc -vvn -z 192.168.1.1 79-81   to be out into a file.. but it doesnt work anyone have a idea why? pipe it with > File doesnt help11:11
voloslovakia help11:12
aspianattegood morning!11:12
nuxilG'Day11:12
aspianattesomeone of you have 64 bit instaled?11:12
nuxilme11:13
aspianattei can't see video in real player!11:13
zorglu_volo, what is the language code for slovakia ? .uk, .fr etc.. this kind of stuff11:13
nuxiluse mplayer11:13
aspianatteumm11:13
voloslovakia?,,11:13
aspianattemplayer can handel ram files?11:13
nuxilyes11:13
zorglu_aspianatte: some of them yes11:13
aspianattei have tried to paste a link address bun it doesn't play11:13
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aspianattei have googled for real player test page and then from there i have tried to play some11:14
aspianattethere is audio but no vieo11:14
aspianattebideo11:14
nuxilaspianatte, what address ?11:14
aspianattewait a minute11:14
zorglu_!codecs | aspianatte11:14
ubotuaspianatte: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:14
zorglu_aspianatte: did you follow those tutorials ?11:15
aspianattei have red that page one miliion times don't give me anymore that address11:15
aspianatteahh11:15
aspianattei'm sercik11:15
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nuxilaspianatte, give me the add.. and i'll check if mplayer plays it11:15
serciknuxil http://service.real.com/test/11:16
voloslovesnko11:16
zorglu_!loco | volo11:16
ubotuvolo: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams11:16
krautmoin11:16
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volohm....11:17
nuxilsercik, :) it players11:18
nuxil*plays11:18
serciknuxil i'm disappointed :(( i don't want to use linux anymore!11:18
sercikwhat distribuction do you use?11:18
zorglu_volo: this is a english speaking channel, there are many channel in other language, try #ubuntu-fr but replace -fr by your country/language11:18
nuxilsercik, install ,mplayer and the codecs11:18
serciki heve installed11:19
nuxilthen you will be fine11:19
volozorglu thanks11:19
sercikthe codec? what do you mean exctly?11:19
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zorglu_sercik: that's fine, ubuntu want you to be happy. if you dont want to use ubuntu, ubuntu wont force you to11:19
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sercikzorglu_ : what do you say?11:19
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zorglu_sercik: you have the complete right not to use linux11:20
sercikyou must convince people tp use linux11:20
zorglu_sercik: ubuntu people respect that and wont try to force you11:20
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serciknuxil what do you mean with the codecs?11:20
zorglu_no i dont :)11:20
zorglu_forcing people is not part of ubuntu policy11:21
allan__no you show them linux but like methey are so used to windows not an easy task11:21
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serciknuxil please tell e which version of mplayer and which codecs?11:21
nuxillibxine-extracodecs11:21
sercikso i will try11:22
zorglu_sercik: on the other hand, if you want to use linux, we will be glag to help you :)11:22
serciki know zorglu_11:22
sercikyou are a good boy!11:22
zorglu_cool :)11:22
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zorglu_sercik: so have you made your decision ?11:22
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sercikzorglu_ i use linux from many years11:22
serciki'm not w newbye11:23
zorglu_sercik: ?11:23
serciki use linux from long time11:23
serciki think that the problem is using a 64 bit version11:23
zorglu_<sercik> nuxil i'm disappointed :(( i don't want to use linux anymore! <- i was talking about this sentence11:23
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zorglu_not about the time you use linux11:23
nuxilsercik, if you haved used linux forlong time.. you should learn to use the wiki's howto's and google more TO :)'11:24
allan__inly now linux ubuntu - suse- mephis- mandriva -knoppix - puppylinux -pc bsd - ect too many ossses for people to ty being pc made for windows not linux11:24
sercikno no but i was joking11:24
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zorglu_sercik: ah ok, sorry the ':11:24
serciknuxil if i'm here...11:25
zorglu_ponction was unclear11:25
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serciki 'm not able to solve the problem11:25
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allan__first time i got this koversation goin looks ok so far11:25
zorglu_sercik: as you want to use linux, you can read video by following those tutorial11:25
nuxilapt-get install libxine-extracodecs11:25
zorglu_!codecs | sercik11:25
ubotusercik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:25
serciknooooooo11:25
nuxilyes11:25
sercikthat tutorial is for 32 bit11:25
zorglu_sercik: the xine extracodec are part of the tutorial11:25
sercikand not 64 bit11:25
zorglu_ah ok11:26
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nuxilshit.. want this to work or not11:26
allan__I buy LFX  magazinre from england here in australia11:26
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sercikand then i have followed that tutorial i have installed real player it play files but i don't see video11:26
zorglu_sercik: well current 64bit is not really perfectly supported :)11:26
nuxilsercik, im telling you to apt-get install libxine-extracodecs to make it work11:26
allan__64 bit still not fully supported by xp or vista yet :)11:26
sercikdon't make me stupid, please!11:26
ZeuGiRDoRtoday, when I try to send a file throught bluetooth, this message appears: "Error connecting transport". What's wrong?11:27
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allan__signal lost11:27
serciksu do you have 64 bit installed11:27
zorglu_sercik: so if you use 64bit you will frequently run into trouble.11:27
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sercikand you visit that site with konqueror?11:27
bxnpclear11:27
allan__even microsoft games arew not all 64 bit supported an im a heavy gamer11:27
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allan__i got on my pc windows on a 40gig hdd bios boot to a 20 gig for ubuntu with edubuntu works well11:28
serciknuxil why do you abandon me? only two question i want to ask!!11:29
nuxilsercik, i have 64 bit11:29
allan__any 1 find linux nowdays finds u r internet connections 5 times fasrer than windows11:29
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allan__i mean locates all connetions better lol11:30
sercikdo you visit that site with konqueror?11:30
nuxilsercik, i visit the site with firefox.11:30
sercikah11:30
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nuxilsercik, then the mozilla-mplayer plugin kicks in11:30
sercikfirefox 64 bit?11:30
allan__all sites u must use a browser lol11:30
nuxilsercik, im running firefox 2 beta atm11:30
nuxili havent upgraded :p11:31
sercikok11:31
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allan__this is only a text based chat service11:31
nuxilallan__, nooo is it true?11:32
nuxilallan__, :P11:32
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sercikgoodbye see you soon11:35
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linux8halo11:38
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linux8now i can't open "add/remove program"11:39
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vadoRe11:39
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linux8The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.11:40
matslinux8: it says what you have to do11:41
linux8root@ubuntu:/etc/apt# edit sources.list~11:41
linux8Warning: unknown mime-type for "sources.list~" -- using "application/*"11:41
linux8Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"11:41
Admiral_Chicagoin a terminal11:42
Admiral_Chicagoerr it says that11:42
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: ping.11:43
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Admiral_Chicagogreat. thanks Feisty for that restart.11:45
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bxnpis there already a fix for mounting under kde 3.5.511:59
klaushello!  gphoto2 can download images from the cam, but only as root ... any Idea how a user can download with gphoto2?11:59
bxnpcause its not mounting my cdrom and usb stick anymore11:59
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bxnpmake a camera group and you as a user to that group klaus11:59
klausthank you, bxnp, i try!12:00
bxnpor maybe there is already an camera group klaus12:01
bxnpbut you have to make that group with the right persmissions12:01
klausthrere was no camera group in /etc/group12:01
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klausnow, there is a new group camera in /etc/groups and user is klaus, which permissions do i set where?12:02
klaus /etc/group i ment12:02
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klausjust adding the new group, doesnt work12:03
klausdont i have to associate this group with the usb-device ?12:03
bxnpehm no i dont think so you have to give it the right rights to acces the device12:03
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bxnpand then add  your user to that group and other users who should access the camera with gphoto12:04
klausok, the last part is clear, but what means "right rights" ?12:04
bxnpor maybe there is an configuration option within gphoto to configure it so you can use it as non root12:04
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bxnpacces rights12:04
bxnpfor example12:04
bxnp70012:04
klaus700 for /proc/bus/usb ?12:05
bxnpyour normal user seems to have not sufficient rights to acces the camera12:05
klausi agree your diagnosis12:06
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klausthe normal user has no sufficent rights12:06
CainMadnessHaving trouble downloading updates with Adept, keeps erroring out on one of the packages. What do I do?12:06
klausbut rights for what ? for /proc/bus/usb ?12:06
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bxnpwait klaus12:07
bxnpbtw klaus you use gphoto12:08
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bxnpwhy dont you use a program like digikam12:08
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klausnormally i like to use digikam12:08
bxnpwich uses gphoto as it back ends12:08
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klausbut digikam runs with use rights. it detects the cam, but cannot download the images12:08
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klausgphoto2 is runable as  root, and this worked.12:09
digitalfreedomwhats a good linux firewall m8's?12:09
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jezovihello12:10
jezovi:))12:10
digitalfreedomhey jez12:10
klausdigitalfreedom: mabye you mean iptables?12:10
digitalfreedomno i mean a firewall12:10
Admiral_Chicagodigitalfreedom: firestarter12:10
digitalfreedomaweet than Admiral12:11
digitalfreedomadept have it?12:11
circcan i do a quick question?12:11
Admiral_Chicagoshould have it12:11
Admiral_Chicago!ask | circ12:11
cheez_doodlesdigitalfreedom: iptables12:11
digitalfreedomsweet :)12:11
ubotucirc: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:11
digitalfreedomyou piped circ12:11
circok how do you make the 'taskbar' icons smaller in the panel?12:11
Admiral_Chicagocirc: resize the panel+12:12
digitalfreedomright click on it then click on configure panle12:12
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stamen!MSXML12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about MSXML - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
stamenhi12:12
stamenwho works with wine12:13
stamenor nobody here ?:)12:13
digitalfreedomwine is kewl12:13
digitalfreedomi use it for a few things12:13
klausbxnp: do you have an idea where i have to set the right access rights for the usb-camera ?12:13
circtheres no option to make them smaller12:13
digitalfreedomsize man size12:13
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bxnpklaus: wait a sec12:13
circthe size is large right now, but ive seen huge panels where the icons were tiny12:13
klausok12:13
cyril_yop12:13
Lynourestamen: are you looking for the number of people for statistics? If not, try asking your actual question instead12:13
digitalfreedomor maybe try a diff theme?12:14
Bubba_Gump!anyone12:14
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:14
stamenI wnat to ask, how to install MSXML4 for wine12:14
digitalfreedomfirestarter installed zawsome12:15
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shoshohi all any one here know about python12:15
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Ace2016There is something wrong with my /etc/fstab12:16
bxnpi have it klaus sec12:16
Ace2016http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37325/12:16
bxnphttp://gphoto.org/doc/manual/permissions-usb.html12:16
circthemes dont make a difference12:16
Ace2016what are those radom long uuids?12:16
bxnphere is your answer take a look at it12:16
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klausthank you bxnp!12:16
Admiral_ChicagoAce2016: edgy?12:16
bxnpi am reading it aswell so if you have more question's just pop it12:17
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HobbseeAce2016: they're fine you can leave them12:17
stamenhow to fix this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37328/12:17
Ace2016Hobbsee: but i need to remove them12:17
Admiral_Chicagoyes, they make for a more robust fstab iirc12:17
Ace2016Hobbsee: i'm trying to run initng and its failing12:17
HobbseeAce2016: what for?12:17
klausok12:17
Hobbseeurgh12:17
circoh well12:17
Ace2016Hobbsee: so can i remove them without breaking the system?12:17
Hobbseeso then just use /dev/hda# like the line above was12:17
Hobbseeit might break in the future12:18
circwhat do i need to install to configure screen settings like resolution?12:18
Hobbseecirc: intel card?12:18
Admiral_Chicago!res | circ12:18
ubotucirc: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:18
Ace2016Hobbsee: i was about to but i wanted to know if there was a reason for the use of uuid12:18
Admiral_Chicagothat?12:18
Hobbsee!uuid12:18
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)12:18
HobbseeAce2016: ^12:18
stamenhow to fix this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37328/12:18
Admiral_Chicago!repeat | stamen12:19
ubotustamen: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:19
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circwell no not the x window, kde had a tool to shift resolutions and so on12:19
Admiral_Chicagostamen: it's fine, it's not an error.12:19
circi did a base install, but have no idea what that pack is called12:19
shoshohi12:20
shoshohi all any one here know about python12:20
stamenAdmiral_Chicago:  I know, but do you know how to make this not to appear12:20
Hobbseecirc: kde-guidance, iirc12:20
stamenwhen I am upgrading12:20
Admiral_Chicagostamen: you're on edgy right?12:20
stamenyes12:20
Admiral_Chicagoi have no idea, it always happened with me12:20
stamen:)12:20
Admiral_Chicagoit's not an error, it just appeared12:21
Hobbseestamen: in feisty, they hope to have an update manager.  just run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" again12:21
circthanks12:21
stamenas I see this version makes a lot of headakes12:21
Hobbseeactualyl, that's standard for a dist-upgrade12:21
Hobbsee(python transition caused that)12:21
stamenHobbsee: after making this, all is the same12:21
shoshoany one here know about python12:21
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Admiral_Chicago!lts12:21
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.12:21
bxnpklaus: is it off any help12:22
klausbxnp: i am reading it12:22
bxnpoke12:22
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Ace2016bye all12:22
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Hobbseeshosho: the people in #python do12:22
shoshoi cant get there12:23
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shoshoi have a message u need to be identified12:23
Hobbseeuse /j #python12:23
shoshoi did12:24
Hobbseereally?12:24
Admiral_Chicagotry right clicking12:24
Admiral_Chicagomight be only registered nicks too12:24
shoshoso ??12:24
Hobbsee!register12:25
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:25
Hobbseeshosho: you need to register with freenode, then you can join12:25
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digitalfreedomhow can i make nmap show ALL the open ports on a target?12:25
digitalfreedom--open?12:25
lazarus__Im trying to mount a samba remote share locally, with absolutely no success. can anyone help?12:25
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klausbxnp: which section is for me? the hotplog section ?12:29
klausbxnp: .. then i have to install hotplug12:29
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shoshoexcuse me plz12:30
shoshosomebody tell me how to reach python channel step by step12:31
shoshoif u plz12:31
bxnpi think that hotplug is already installed on your system12:31
bxnpyou do run kununtu dapper right12:31
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shoshosomebody tell me how to reach python channel step by step12:32
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shoshoi didnt go to any channel b4 this channel is opened by default when i open irc12:33
klausbxnp: kubuntu edgy12:33
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klausbxnp: it uses udev12:33
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Ace2016shosho: are you using konversation?12:33
shoshoyes12:34
Ace2016then press F5 to get a list of the available channels and then refresh it, then filter it to find python12:35
Ace2016once you know the name you can use   /join #name12:35
Ace2016e.g /join #python12:35
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lazarus__anybody know how to mount a network share locally?12:35
Ace2016shosho: or you can click on this >>  #python12:35
shoshoi have this message ]  [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel12:36
Ace2016shosho: then you have to register12:36
Ace2016your nick12:36
shoshommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm12:37
shoshoi cant12:38
shoshoevery time i try i have the same message12:38
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shoshoi dont know why12:38
shoshoi may be maaaaaaaaaaad12:38
klausbxnp: i tried http://www.blurty.com/users/claudiusmaximus/day/2006/10/19#38812:38
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Ace2016shosho: what message?12:39
shosho[Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel12:39
Ace2016shosho: type  "/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER"  to register your nick with a password so you can join the channel12:39
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shosho"/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER"12:40
shoshook12:40
shoshowhere can i write this12:40
Ace2016into the Ubuntu IRC tab12:40
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shoshoi have this [Error]  "/msg: Unknown command.12:41
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Admiral_Chicagono "12:42
Ace2016don't use " just type whats inside it12:42
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chupa-chupsiam so sad12:42
chupa-chupsi dont know how to reach there12:43
Admiral_Chicagowhy is that12:43
chupa-chupsevery time i  have error12:43
Admiral_Chicagoare you registered?12:43
Ace2016reach where?12:43
chupa-chups#python12:43
chupa-chups [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel12:43
chupa-chupsi tried many times12:43
Ace2016Type /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER12:43
klausbxnp: yet no solution works. i have to buy an christmas tree, but will come again later ...12:43
chupa-chupsi did12:44
Ace2016chupa-chups: did you follow the instructions?12:44
bxnpoke klausis12:44
bxnpoke klaus12:44
lazarus__chupa-chups: take a look at: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:44
bxnpi dont know if i am here then cause my internet is doing strange12:44
bxnpbut goodluck12:44
Ace2016Then type  /msg Identify your-password-here  ??12:44
chupa-chupsi am trying now12:45
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lazarus__Im trying to mount a network share locally. can anyone help?12:47
rcrookplease elloberate?12:48
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mildnerdoes anybody know how to install winetools on kubuntu 64bit12:49
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rcrooklazarus__: are you trying to mount a nfs or smb share?12:51
lazarus__rcrook: smb share12:51
rcrooklazarus__: using mount or a tool like smb4k?12:52
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lazarus__rcrook: using mount -t cifs, and smbmount, with the same error12:52
lazarus__connection failed12:53
rcrookhmm.12:53
lazarus__but I can browse the share in konqueror without any problems12:53
xsachahey, with: ls -l | awk '$5 > 400000'    i see all files above 400KB in this directory.. how do i pass only these filenames to rm?12:53
rcrookwhat are the options you are using? minus any passwords etc?12:54
rcrookxsacha: use find12:54
lazarus__rcrook: Ive tried every combination of options I can think of, with no success12:55
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xsachaoh ok find -size, thanks12:55
shoshoproblim12:55
shoshoreally big problim for me12:55
rcrookxsacha:  no probs12:55
shoshono its a problim12:55
rcrooklazarus__: give ma a sec and I will give you an example I have used12:56
lazarus__rcrook: eg, smbmount //remote/sharename /media/mydocs -o username=(user),password=(pass)12:56
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lazarus__rcrook: Im assuming everything is working hardware-wise and configured, since I can browse shares in konqueror with smb:/...12:59
rcrookdamn lazarus__ .. that works for me...12:59
rcrookI gather its a windows box you are mounting?12:59
lazarus__rcrook: its driving me nuts. Ive followed so many howtos to the letter01:00
rcrookI can imagine.01:00
lazarus__yes, windows, but its a dual-boot with kubuntu dapper, either os same story01:00
rcrookwhat version of windows?01:01
lazarus__xp, sp201:01
rcrookhmmm....01:01
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lazarus__this box has limited ram. could that be the problem? again, I can browse shares in konq01:02
rcrookyou could try to disable the third party smb server option in the local security pocily ion the windows box01:02
rcrookdoubt its memory...01:02
rcrooksounds like we are missing something in the smbmount options..01:03
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lazarus__Ive mostly tried to get it working running kubuntu on both boxes, thinking same version of samba on both boxes would be easier01:04
lazarus__on the plus side, Im learning a lot01:05
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rcrookcould be.. it would be good to see if there is anything in eventviewer in the XP box01:05
rcrookmaybe give a hint.01:05
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rcrookI am running win2k on my win box.. all seems to work ok01:06
lazarus__ok, Ill see if I can find anything. also, would it matter if the windows box is logged in as admin user account or more restricted account?01:06
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rcrookshouldnt01:07
xsacharcrook: how do i get find to only search in the current directory?01:07
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rcrookxsacha: -maxdepth levels01:08
xsachaah01:08
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rcrooklazarus__: also try the degug=4 option on smbmount01:08
frankyhello everyone01:08
frankyi have troubles with startup of kubuntu01:09
Admiral_Chicagohow is it going franky01:09
Admiral_Chicagowhat is the problem01:09
frankywell, i installed ubuntu 6.10 last weekend, everything worked fine this week01:09
rcrooklazarus__: thats debug=401:09
frankybut now i want to boot my computer, i enter my login and password01:09
frankymy screen turns black and shows the login dialog again01:10
frankyi also got an error once 'cannot start kstartupconfig'01:10
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frankyand it tells me about the $HOME dir which kde has no writing access to01:10
frankyany idea?01:10
Admiral_Chicagookay01:10
Admiral_Chicagoit seems like ~/.kde is messed up somehow01:11
xsacharm `find -maxdepth 1 -size -380k -a -size +300k`    perfect :)01:11
Hobbseefranky: what's your user?01:11
Admiral_Chicagolog into a fail safe terminal01:11
Admiral_Chicagoand try "sudo startx"01:11
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Hobbseefranky: sudo chown -R user.user $home01:11
Hobbsee(where user is the name of your user)01:11
Admiral_ChicagoHobbsee: what does that command do?01:11
frankyok but i will have to switch computers for that01:12
Admiral_Chicagoadd access i see01:12
HobbseeAdmiral_Chicago: changes the owner - ch own01:12
Admiral_Chicagodon't try sudo startx,01:12
Admiral_Chicagolisten to Hobbsee01:12
Hobbseeheh :P01:12
Admiral_Chicagono i read it too quickly I see it now thanks Hobbsee01:12
Hobbseefranky: sudo chown -R user.user /home/user - where all 3 users are your username01:12
frankyok but i will have to switch computers, i installed ubuntu as a dual boot with win xp01:12
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Hobbseefranky: fair enough01:12
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frankyi'll write down this and i will be back in a few minutes01:12
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frankythanx in advance01:13
Admiral_Chicagoyou're quite popular on IRC today Hobbsee01:13
HobbseeAdmiral_Chicago: why so?01:13
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Admiral_Chicagogetting poked for help in -bugs as well01:13
Hobbseeah yeah01:13
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Hobbseeand in #kde4-devel01:13
Hobbseehey rob!01:13
kwtmHello, all.01:14
robhey Hobbsee :D01:14
Hobbsee:)01:14
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frankyHobbsee: what will that sudo chown command do?01:14
oslo wirh kopete i can't the text "showgallery.php" on msn ....01:15
kwtmGot a question about dpkg --could someone help me find a file?01:15
Admiral_Chicagoadd read acess to the user franky01:15
Admiral_Chicagoor actually change owner01:15
Admiral_Chicagoch own01:15
frankyok thx01:15
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Admiral_Chicagosee what I mean?01:15
frankybtw: is there a way to move my home dir?01:15
Admiral_Chicagocp ~/ /other/location etc01:15
frankyowkay, thanx, i'll give it a try01:16
Hobbseefranky: change the ownership of those files01:16
Admiral_Chicagoactually cp ~/* /other/location01:16
Admiral_Chicagobut that is a bit more complicated01:16
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HobbseeAdmiral_Chicago: that wont do hidden files01:16
kwtmfranky: You mean set another directory as your home dir?  Or just copy what's in your home dir to another location that's not your home dir?01:16
xsachamove or copy? move would be: usermod --home new_home_dir ?01:16
HobbseeAdmiral_Chicago: you want cp ~/ /foo01:16
frankyset another dir as home dir.01:16
Admiral_Chicagoreally? cp -a ~/01:16
Admiral_Chicagoyea that's what i meant01:17
Admiral_ChicagoHobbsee: how would you do hidden files?01:17
kwtmfranky: I think xsacha has the right idea, although I'm not familiar with usermod.  But you do need to change the HOME environment,01:17
Hobbseewell, either cp .* or just cp /01:17
kwtmfranky: otherwise you would end up just continuing to use your old home dir (which would now be empty if you moved your files elsewhere)01:17
Admiral_Chicagookay i'll remember that, i've only been using linux for about a year01:18
xsachausermod -d new_home_dir -m01:18
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xsachathe -m moves too01:18
Hobbseekwtm: what did you want to know?01:18
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kwtmHobbsee: I get this error with this file "/usr/lib/libcups.so.2"01:18
kwtmHobbsee: How do I find out what ubuntu package it came from?01:18
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kwtmHobbsee: I figure there must be some dpkg command01:19
Admiral_Chicagokwtm: i think it's apt-get show01:19
Admiral_Chicagobut i'm probably wrong01:19
HobbseeAdmiral_Chicago: you are wrong :P01:19
HobbseeAdmiral_Chicago: you're thinking of apt-cache show01:19
Admiral_Chicagogah! i'm like 0/5 Hobbsee01:19
Admiral_Chicagothat is what I thought01:19
kwtmAdmiral_Chicago: Thanks, I'll check.  Ooops, Hobbsee: :P  Okay, apt-cache show /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 ?01:19
Hobbseekwtm: dpkg -L /path01:20
xsachafranky: sudo usermod --home /foo --move-home $USER01:20
Admiral_Chicagohey it's 6.15 AM here, plus i've been up all night doing a physics final01:20
Admiral_Chicago20 odd pages01:20
Hobbseekwtm: no, apt-cache show does something different01:20
Admiral_Chicagoi get to make mistakes :P01:20
Hobbseehehe01:20
frankykwtm: thanx i'll try01:20
Hobbseeapt-cache show does the packages, dpkg -L (list) will tell you the filse that belong to the package01:20
Hobbseealso, packages.ubuntu.com will tell you01:20
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kwtmHobbsee: thanks, I tried dpkg -L; but is there a way to find out what package a file belongs to if I don't know what package it is?01:21
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xsachakwtm: sudo apt-get install apt-file01:21
xsachaapt-file filename01:21
yumahi01:21
xsachasearch*01:21
kwtmHobbsee: I don't want to have to go through all packages looking for that file... xsacha: okay, will try that.01:21
Hobbseekwtm: dpkg -L does that, doesn tit?  or packages.ubuntu.com and scroll down01:22
Hobbseekwtm: look down - you want the second search box01:22
lazarus__rcrook: with the debug=4 option, I get attempting host lookup, wins lookup, and then wins server resolution selected and no wins servers listed01:22
yumais there any way to change the kdm language?01:23
rcrooklazarus__: do you have the win machine in your hosts file?01:23
yumaI think so, because I remember that in gentoo I had Spanish...01:23
yumabut I've not idea how...01:23
Admiral_Chicagoyuma: there is an option in xserver iirc01:23
lazarus__rcrook: how do I check that?01:23
Admiral_Chicagobut i may be wrong01:24
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rcrookcat /etc/hosts01:24
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: I'll find out01:24
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yumaAdmiral_Chicago: Thanks01:24
Admiral_Chicagolook in input device01:24
Admiral_Chicagoyuma:        Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"01:24
frankyAdmiral_Chicago, Hobbsee and kwtm: thanks a lot! it works again!!!01:25
rcrooklazarus__: if it is not there you can add it by editing the file or use the network setup01:25
Admiral_Chicagois my line, your line sohuld read "es" i think01:25
Admiral_ChicagoHobbsee: is that right?01:25
Hobbseefranky: :)01:25
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: I did that, but that's for the input of the kb01:25
HobbseeAdmiral_Chicago: no idea, i dont use locales01:25
xsachafranky: what did you end up doing?01:25
Admiral_Chicagothen i'm not wrong that i know of01:25
frankywell, i dit chown my home dir01:25
Admiral_Chicagoso I win...slightly01:25
frankyand then i move it to another dir01:26
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: What I want is to have the interface in Spanish, instead of 'Password' I should read 'Contrasea' and so on01:26
xsachak01:26
Admiral_Chicagoyuma: OH!01:26
Admiral_Chicagowait a sec01:26
rcrooklazarus__: you and also use its ip address in the smbmount command too.. //192.168.XX.XX/share01:26
xsachaexport LANG       or  LANGUAGE ?01:26
kwtmHobbsee: Thank you --looking at packages.ubuntu.com worked!  I found that /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 is in the libcupsys package (I would never have found that on my own!)01:27
lazarus__rcrook: where should the hosts file be?01:27
Hobbseekwtm: :)01:27
rcrooklazarus__: /etc/hosts01:27
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Admiral_Chicagoyuma: sorry right now i'm really tired and can't think straight01:27
Admiral_Chicagomaybe #kubuntu-es can help01:28
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: hehe, don't worry, thanks for everything01:28
kwtmHobbsee: When I checked the package, it looks like /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 has length 0 --no wonder my printer isn't working!  I will reinstall the package.  I love having the k/ubuntu community available at 4 in the morning!01:28
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: I'm already there, but they are all sleeping!01:28
Admiral_Chicagoyuma: i should be too!01:28
Admiral_Chicago@now chicago01:28
UbugtuCurrent time in America/Chicago: December 16 2006, 06:28:3901:28
Admiral_Chicago...final exams01:28
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: bad thing...01:28
kwtmAdmiral_Chicago: hey, best of luck on your physics exam.  Is this high school or university?01:28
Admiral_Chicagoyuma: i hear it is really easy to make one too01:28
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: you really should be sleeping01:29
Admiral_Chicagokwtm: college.01:29
Admiral_Chicagoactually i'm finishing my physics now01:29
Admiral_Chicago20 pages01:29
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: physics?01:29
Hobbseekwtm: :)01:29
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: what are you studing?01:29
Admiral_Chicagophysics and computer science01:29
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yumaAdmiral_Chicago: I'm doing physics in Madrid01:30
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm jealous.01:30
yumabest luck in exams!01:30
Admiral_Chicagoi love Spain, I went three years ago01:30
kwtmAdmiral_Chicago: I know how you feel!  (I did engineering in undergrad.  Man, what a wringer!)01:30
Admiral_Chicagoyuma: thanks01:30
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rcrookyuma: you can change the language for kdm in the kdm setings gui01:30
Admiral_Chicagokwtm: 14 pages for homework, you know what it's like01:30
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: if you want we can swap for a year or so!01:30
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yumaAdmiral_Chicago: hehe01:30
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yumarcrook: I've tried kdmtheme, but I don't find the option01:31
Admiral_Chicagoyuma apt-cache search kdm01:31
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kwtmAdmiral_Chicago: Best of luck!  Thanks Hobbsee!  yuma, quiero tambien ir en espana un dia!  Bye!01:31
Admiral_Chicagothere may be an option01:31
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Admiral_Chicagono ignore that01:31
Hobbseejerre: hehe, heya01:31
yumakwtm: you're invited too :)01:31
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm out of ideas...01:32
rcrookyuma: not the kdetheme but if you start kcontrol and in the system admin there is a login manager section01:32
jerreHobbsee:whos is this01:32
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yumarcrook: hmm, I don't know why but I'm afraid I miss some options in kcontrol01:33
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Hobbseejerre: a strange person01:33
crystal#ubuntu01:33
yumarcrook: I'll check but almost sure I don't have that01:33
rcrookok yuma01:33
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lazarus__rcrook: I add the win ip then the name after the 127.0.0.1 localhost, like this 192.168.xxx.xxx win-machine ?01:34
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Admiral_Chicagofinal exam = 21 pages. blah01:34
yumarcrook: I promise I search it for a long time!01:34
Admiral_Chicagotime to type some more lab reports01:34
yumarcrook: I found it, but I didn't expect that name in Spanish...01:34
Admiral_Chicagosecond all nighter in a row01:34
yumaI'm so ashamed...01:35
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: In which course are you?01:35
klausbxnp, i am back01:35
rcrooklazarus__: the format of hosts is <ip address> <hostname>01:35
bxnpwell i am not gone01:35
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rcrookyuma: do be ashamed.. they like to test us when naming the options... LOL01:36
rcrookdont be ashamed01:36
rcrookI mean01:36
Admiral_Chicagoyuma: physics 1 :| and it is that much wrk01:36
rcrookdoh! now I am ashamed.. my typing is bad tonight01:36
yumaAdmiral_Chicago: I know what you mean, I'm in 4th and you could be sure this is worst...01:37
klaushello, i am use kubuntu edy , and digikam cannot download from my usb-cam. its an rights problem, because root can. any idea ? maybe something with udev ...01:37
yumarcrook: yes, sometimes is hard to find something you've always have read in English01:37
rcrooklazarus__: for example. my windows box is thing so the format would be 192.168.0.56 thing01:37
lazarus__ok, added the winbox to hosts, the smbmout with debug=4 option now says error connecting to ip #:port # (No route to host), then the same thing again with a different port #01:38
yumawell I've to go to have a shower and to buy something to eat today01:39
yumaI'll see you later01:39
yumathanks for the help!01:39
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rcrooksee ya yuma01:40
klausany idea how to use an usb-cam with digikam as non-root in kubuntu-edgy?01:40
chimaeracan somone with flash9 installed pls call http://www.myspace.com/wallsofjericho within konqi and see if the playlist of the player gets loaded correctly? (might want to turn the volume down, depending on your taste of music).01:40
chimaeraklaus: might want to add the user to the appropriate group, dont's know which this is, though.01:42
klauschimaera, i created a group camera, where the user is in, but i think kubuntu has to know that this group has the rights01:42
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chimaeraklaus: try it the othe rway around. find out which group camera belongs to. ;)01:43
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klauschimaera, ahm. and how ?01:44
chimaeraklaus: mhh, do you know the device (/dev/..)?01:45
frootstripehi all - cud s/o tell me how to get bluetooth modules to stop from loading on startup. the modules are cfcomm and l2cap01:45
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klauschimaera, mabye no /dev/ device  ? not sure ... dont know01:46
klauschimaera, dmesg dont tell me01:46
chimaerafrootstripe: add them top /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist01:46
chimaeraklaus: does the application give any hints on the device used?01:46
frootstripethanx01:47
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lazarus__rcrook: smbmout with debug=4 option now says error connecting to ip #:port # (No route to host), then the same thing again with a different port #. does no route to host mean what it sounds like?01:47
frootstripeonly I don't have that file, the skeleton somewhere?01:48
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klauschimaera, its an usb-cam ptp/ip ... 04cb:019b01:48
rcrooklazarus__: could be a ip address error..01:48
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rcrooklet me look at something01:48
chimaerafrootstripe: should be there. really should.  ;)01:48
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revolutionstudioanyone can suggest a cheap place to pick up some ram want atleast 1gb in the 184 pin ddr dimm01:49
malik__does any know how to make opera play multimedia files in kubuntu edgy?01:49
chimaerafrootstripe: just add the module-name, nothing else in it.01:49
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chimaeraklaus: try checking the ubuntu wiki or ask if someone in #ubunto knows to which group usb-cams are assigned.01:50
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chimaeraklaus: #ubuntu of course.01:50
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klauschimaera, ok i will try there thanks01:51
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ylz_Hello...01:51
revolutionstudioand i have another question....about cooling fans...would it be safe to sit a big ass fan beside the case without the side panel on it to help cool it down...i shut down to add a fan and when i touched the metal inside i burned my hand01:51
rcrooklazarus__: what I think is happening is the knoqueror use the netbois name resolution to get the hosts ip address. smbmount doesnt. I am not sure if you can force smbmount to use netbios. so you need to have the hosts ip address in hosts or you can use the ip address in the command itself.01:52
lazarus__rcrook: you mean Im using the wrong ip number? or something is wrong with network configuration?01:52
ylz_I try to change font size of GTK applications (like gaim and evolution), but I cannot find those settings in kcontrol. Does someone knows how to?01:52
xsacharevolutionstudio: an intel?01:52
revolutionstudiohell no...01:53
revolutionstudiosorry just hate intels01:53
xsachai have trouble getting any of my AMDs above room temperature01:53
revolutionstudioamd athlon01:53
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lazarus__rcrook: I tried smbmount with ip number, same no route to host error. could it be a hardware problem?01:54
rcrooklazarus__: bigest issue is if you use dhcp for the windows box net configuration. then there is no garranty that you will have the same ip address each time it boots.01:54
lazarus__rcrook: that is, faulty network card?01:54
revolutionstudioits old but runs alot better than most of the intels around here anyways...everyone i know with intel bog out during gameplay...and my old ass amd 1.4ghz kicks ass01:54
revolutionstudiobut runs way too hot...and dont understand why01:54
rcrooklazarus__:  try ping ipaddress eg: ping 192.168.0.5401:54
lazarus__ipconfig in windows/dos gives you the ip number, right?01:55
rcrooklazarus__: yup01:55
revolutionstudioyes lazarus01:55
revolutionstudioso will a big window fan or box fan work to help cool it all down?01:55
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revolutionstudiowill that be safe really im sure it will work but safty wise01:56
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revolutionstudioany ideas on where to get the cheap ram?01:57
lazarus__rcrook: ok, getting somewhere. now with correct ip, says smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000), then smbmnt failed: 101:57
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rcrooklazarus__: you can chmod o+s `which smbmnt` but using setuid can be dangerous security wise.01:59
rcrooklazarus__: its chmod u+s02:00
rcrooksorry02:00
lazarus__if I sudo smbmount, it says namecache_shutdown: Couldnt close namecache on top of gencache02:00
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rcrooklazarus__: interesting. let me try02:01
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malik__hi any one here knows how to make opera work in edgy?02:02
Ace2016Hi all02:02
rcrooklazarus__: did it actually mount the share?02:02
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Ace2016If i set up a software raid, at what point during startup will the bootprocess start reading from both disks?02:03
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lazarus__rcrook: hey, it did mount it!02:04
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lazarus__so I just need to sudo smbmount (and get the ip number right). Just want to make sure I understand what happened02:05
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malik__hi any one here knows how to make opera work in edgy?02:07
iberthey girls&guys! I'm search for way to send mails inside my lan from between different machines & users (so to their local mailboxes) does anyone know a howto for such a thing (small LAN)?02:08
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chimaeracan somone with flash9 installed pls call http://www.myspace.com/wallsofjericho within konqi and see if the playlist of the player gets loaded correctly? (might want to turn the volume down, depending on your taste of music).02:08
rcrook_ibert: simple way would to be to set up an imap server on one ot the machines02:09
Ace2016i wonder how much speed i could gain by getting a cheep 40gb hard disk  and adding it as hdc and using a 40gb partition from hda and hdb and setting up a software raid. First i have to figure out when all the disks start being used02:09
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malik__hi any one here knows how to make opera work in edgy?02:10
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rcrook_malik__: if you have a little while I wil try to install it02:11
Administrateur_hallo02:11
Ace2016malik__: install it from conical repos?02:11
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diana99hola gente02:12
malik__Ace2016: yes i have but it doesnt play multimedia files of any sort02:12
larson9999malik__: i just installed it in edgy.  it worked fine02:13
rcrook_malik__: have you an example site I could try?02:13
ibertrcrook_: is this really simple? hmm. I was wondering If i could do it with postifx on the machines...02:13
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sirjinxHi. Can some one help me?02:14
rcrook_ibert: if you are going to go that direction I think exim is easier to configure02:14
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sirjinxMy  xorg.conf file doesn't seem to load the modified changes unless I start X from the command line.02:15
malik__http://news.bbc.co.uk and http://npr.org02:15
Ace2016malik__: flash? or windows media? flash 9 just about works with it and kaffeine can be used as a plugin to play media files02:15
ibertrcrook_: I'll check it out. thanx.02:15
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malik__flash works in it just fine its real meadia n windows media which is giving me grief02:15
malik__the canonical repo i use is as this .........http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu02:16
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sirjinxIs it normal that X doesn't load the changes that I made to my xorg.conf file unless I start X from the command line?02:18
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Ace2016!raid02:18
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO02:18
chimaerasirjinx: you have to restart x. just loging out and lggin in (with kdm) running won't suffice.02:19
sirjinxwell, I have actually done a reboot many times. It worked yesterday when I did, but it's not working now.02:20
lazarus__rcrook_: thank you so much for your help. just to confirm, I needed to sudo mount, and of course use the right ip number, either in hosts file or in the smbmount command. Is that all the problem was?02:20
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koyo001helo02:21
koyo001i am trying out some new features02:21
koyo001on kubuntu02:21
sampo-Nice, only way to learn is trying :)02:22
ibertkoyo001: which ones?02:23
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malik__Ace2016: which canonical repo i need to enable?.......can u point me in the right direction plz?02:24
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malik__im using edgy with ked 3.5.502:24
Ace2016malik__: to use kaffeine to play stuff?02:25
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Ace2016malik__: you just have to install kaffeine-mozilla02:25
Ace2016mozilla plugin that lanches kaffeine for supported media types02:25
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rcrook_lazarus__: yup... seems that way.02:26
lazarus__Ive found mozilla mplayer plugin works well for windows embedded media in firefox, but have never tried with opera02:27
malik__i installed the plugin last time n it does lauch kaffiene but only externally n it takes very long time to play video or audio files02:27
rcrook_malik__: got opera installed but cant get it to play the streams. thing I need some plugins to get it to. I use firefox ad have few problems with it.02:28
Ace2016true, thats what sucks about opera02:28
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malik__yea thats the thing it doesnt work correctly in linux n it sucks .........i can make firefox with extensions work like opera but its not the same02:30
malik__konqi works just fine but lacks opera's mouse gestures .........other than that i like konqi so far02:31
Ace2016firefox just doesn't feel as responsive, but after opera 8, it went down hill fast, can't even pann properly when zoomed02:31
rcrooklazarus__: just to let you know I use smb4k instead of trying to handle smbmount.. does all the hard stuff for you. you might want to have a squiz at it.02:31
lazarus__rcrook: is that installed with samba, or a separate package?02:32
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malik__i cant understand that why opera ppl havent released the code since they have made the browser free02:32
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rcrookseparate package lazarus__02:32
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sampo-Are it possible to mount my root partition to other partition, witch is normaly mount as /home?02:33
sampo-for temporary02:34
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sirjinxNow this is just weird. Everytime I cold boot into kde, my xorg.conf doesn't load. But once I restart X, it loads it. Is there a place besides /etc/X11 where an xorg.conf file may be stored?02:34
malik__Ace2016: do you use firefox or konqi?02:35
rcrooksirjinx: /var/lib/x11/02:36
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sirjinxok thanks02:36
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Ace2016i use opera most of the time, and firefox if i'm watching youtube videos and stuff like that, opera's flash messes up easily02:37
koyo001i have a little problem02:37
Ace2016koyo001: what is it?02:37
koyo001if someone could help me out i would really apreciateit02:37
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koyo001i am trying to get into multiverse02:37
koyo001not working02:37
cox377what does everyone here use to listen to mp3/wma's etc?02:37
rcrookamarok cox37702:38
Ace2016cox377: amarok/juk02:38
murchadh_bhabacox377, Amarok02:38
Ace2016cox377: juk is better, faster02:38
cox377murchadh_bhaba: does anyone here stream music over a network to there kubuntu box?02:38
rcrookkoyo001: you need to add  multiverse to the apt-sources file02:38
koyo001i read the info02:38
koyo001but as i try to rewrite the name02:39
frootstripehow do i change my default internet browser? still want konqueror for my system tho....02:39
koyo001when i click on it again it goes back to universe02:39
rcrookare you trying it in adept koyo001?02:39
koyo001yeah02:40
rcrooklet me have a quick look koyo00102:40
koyo001tyring it in adept02:40
murchadh_bhabaAce2016, But amaroks extras are brilliant, and it works in konquerors sidepanel to wiki artists and lyrics, etc. I was loath to move away from winamp but amarok is solid.02:40
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Ace2016murchadh_bhaba: its slow, thats about the only reason i don't use it, takes forever to add all my music to a playlist02:41
koyo001as you can tell newbie to linux02:41
murchadh_bhabacox377, Not that up on streaming, but as far as I know amarok can stream and read stream?02:41
koyo001but i have been coming on and off back to linux02:41
cox377murchadh_bhaba: it does with some stuff and just crashs with out02:41
koyo001i just never got it completely set up right02:41
cox377murchadh_bhaba: as a desktop OS this has been doing my nut02:41
koyo001and never had the time to so just went back to shitty ass windows02:42
koyo001but now i just cant take windows anymore02:42
cox377murchadh_bhaba: it's like the fact with armork you can't add network shares into your library02:43
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murchadh_bhabaAce2016, I have 22000 songs in it's Database, and it's probably the best media player I've used. On any platform! But my needs ar e limited to playing my nusic. All other media is played by an xbox; cartoons, movies, etc.02:43
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rcrookkoyo001: Just tied the manage repos in adept. if you double click on the components on the line in question  then add multiverse and hit enter it should work02:45
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Ace2016murchadh_bhaba: well i just want to go to the collection tab, select all, and then right click and add them to the playlist but its not letting me02:45
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murchadh_bhabacox377, Ah, I'll have to check it out. I think amaroks can share a single database across the network. I may be wrong though.02:45
cox377murchadh_bhaba: i can imagine if the media is local it works very well02:45
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koyo001i just did that02:45
cox377murchadh_bhaba: Umm u got any ideas how mate?02:45
BluesKajHowdy all ! :)02:45
koyo001i try to click on the line02:46
murchadh_bhabacox377, MySQL!02:46
koyo001then it gives me the option to write02:46
cox377murchadh_bhaba: unfortunatly i dont know that well enough to start doing such a thing02:46
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cox377:(02:46
cox377murchadh_bhaba: lol02:46
koyo001but how do i write it so it stays02:46
BluesKajanyone try FF3 yet ?02:46
koyo001and another thing is i have 2 universes02:47
murchadh_bhabakoyo001, Click apply at the bottom!02:47
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koyo001after i finish writing02:47
koyo001universe multiverse02:47
koyo001????02:47
rcrookkoyo001: seems odd but just typing multiverse at the end and pressing enter should work. sigh that is how it works for me.02:47
BluesKajcopy & paste02:48
rcrookyes02:48
rcrookyou want both universe and multiverse if you want the bleeding egde progs02:48
koyo001does it have to be active when i do it02:48
rcrookyes02:48
koyo001yes i want it all02:49
koyo001i am trying to get amule02:49
rcrookok02:49
koyo001and codecs to listen to mp3's02:49
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murchadh_bhabacox377, There is a good howto on just that, but you'll have to google it as I can't remember it off the top of my head. Unfortunately, my Kubuntu machine is the one with all the medai on it, my 9 year old laptop won't run amarok, and all media not played on the kubuntu PC is played on modded xboxes.02:49
koyo001i just started with kubuntu02:50
koyo001trying to set it up02:50
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koyo001finaly got msn back02:50
murchadh_bhabacox377, So I'm not much help. How much music do you have there, that you add it all to your collection?02:50
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koyo001now missing amule02:51
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cox377murchadh_bhaba: i have a similar figure to you 2200002:51
koyo001and sound02:51
cox377murchadh_bhaba: AHH modded xboxs.. thats my kinda media center ; )02:51
koyo001been reading all the how to's02:51
koyo001and cant get multiverse active02:52
praveer_fedorakubuntu messed everything02:52
praveer_fedorait messed grub of fedora core 502:52
praveer_fedoracan anyone help me, i first installed fedora core 5 wid wondowz on hard disk 102:53
praveer_fedorathen i installed kubuntu 6.06 lts on second hard disk02:53
praveer_fedorait messed kubuntu itself along with fedora as fedora and kubuntu are not starting properly02:53
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praveer_fedoranow i am on kubuntu live using konversation02:54
koyo001it saya here in adept uncomment the following 2 lines to add software from universe02:54
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praveer_fedoraplease someone help me with ths, i used fedora rescue cd but grub-install reports errors02:55
praveer_fedoranow i could not boot to any linux02:55
praveer_fedoraneither kubuntu nor fedora02:55
praveer_fedorastrangely wwindowz boots well02:56
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BluesKajyou prolly have 2 , ext3 Linux partitions...confuses the mbr02:57
praveer_fedoraBluesKaj: what should i do then02:57
koyo001rcrook02:57
koyo001you still there02:57
rcrookpraveer_fedora: never used grub booting two linux's before... always used lilo for that... seems to handle multi linuxs' better.. sorry cant help very much02:58
rcrookyes koyo00102:58
koyo001sorry to disturb you02:58
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koyo001its just i dont know how to do it02:58
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koyo001i have been trying for days now02:58
rcrooktis ok... just trying to figure why adept works ok for me and not for you koyo00102:59
BluesKajchoose either kubuntu , I think you repartition fedora to a reiser file sytem and leabve kubuntu as ext3 . That should solve yer prob02:59
koyo001maybe i am douing something real basic wrong02:59
koyo001its what i think02:59
praveer_fedoraBluesKaj: i dont think fedora will support reiser due to its selinux policies02:59
rcrookonly thing I can think is adept is not running as root... something wrong with the sodu02:59
praveer_fedoraBluesKaj: what do u say03:00
koyo001humm03:00
rcrooksodu03:00
BluesKajthen dump fedora :)03:00
koyo001it asks me for my password03:00
rcrookgod my typing is bad tonight03:00
koyo001tonight03:00
koyo001where are you03:00
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rcrookcanberra australia03:00
praveer_fedoraBluesKaj: i installed more than 200 packages on fedora03:00
koyo001shit03:00
koyo001the land down under03:00
rcrookyup03:01
koyo001cool03:01
koyo001i am in santiago chile03:01
koyo001morning here03:01
rcrookhot at the moment actually lol03:01
koyo001hot here too03:01
praveer_fedoraBluesKaj: i dont have 2 ext3fs on same hdd03:01
BluesKajpraveer_fedora, it's your decision> murchadh_bhaba ...what do you think he should do ?03:01
rcrookchile... sounds interesting. :)03:01
koyo001ok let me describe what i do03:01
praveer_fedoraBluesKaj: one has fedora ext3 and other kubuntu ext303:02
koyo001you can tell me if i am missing a step03:02
koyo001it is03:02
rcrookok03:02
cox377koyo001: u been watching the ashes?03:02
koyo001nice women here03:02
christianeHello. I just installed Kuibuntu 6.10 and now try to access a samba share in konqueror with "smb://user@server" but get no files. I installed smbfs but it's the same. What could be wrong here? Do I need smbfs for smb://?03:02
koyo001what ashes03:02
rcrooknot a cricket fan then. LOL03:02
cox377koyo001: opps wrong person03:02
koyo001its ok03:03
cox377rcrook: you been watching the ashes03:03
praveer_fedorais there any k front end to grub so that i can install it via apt here and try it03:03
koyo001no cricket for me03:03
koyo001ok here it goes03:03
rcrookI am not a cricket fan either cox377 LOL, but I know the aussies have been thrashing the poms;)03:03
koyo001i start adept manager03:03
rcrookok03:03
cox377rcrook: lol03:03
koyo001manager asks me for my password03:04
rcrookyup03:04
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BluesKajpraveer_fedora, this is a kubuntu help room ...try this for your fedora problem http://www.fedorafaq.org/03:04
koyo001i then go to view manage repositories03:04
rcrookcool03:04
koyo001in repositories there is a line that says uncomment the following 2 lines to add software from universe03:05
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rcrookyup03:05
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Alter-Egoi forgot how to start an stuck adept03:05
koyo001i right click the 2 lines and activate them03:06
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vltHello. I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and now try to access a samba share in konqueror with "smb://user@server" but get no files. I installed smbfs but it's the same. What could be wrong here? Do I need smbfs for smb://?03:06
rcrookyup03:06
koyo001then i clisck on the line and write03:06
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koyo001universe multiverse03:06
koyo001click apply03:07
koyo001and nothing happens03:07
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rcrookok koyo001.. I am gonna do the same03:07
BluesKajchristiane, do you have SWAT installed (Samba Web Admin Tool) ?03:07
koyo001stays exactly the same03:07
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christianeBluesKaj: No, what do I need this for?03:08
BluesKajor is it vlt03:08
BluesKajhelps setup samba on yer system03:08
christianeBluesKaj: I didn't realize that irc.freenode.org#kubuntu and irc.ubuntu.com#kubunti were the same ;-)03:08
koyo001hey it worked03:09
christianeBluesKaj: I don't want to setup samba on my system, I want to access a samba server.03:09
rcrooklol03:09
koyo001i have been doing the same shit for a week03:09
koyo001and it finally worked03:09
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koyo001what the fuck03:09
rcrookthe vageries of computer... lol03:09
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Admiral_Chicago!language | koyo00103:10
ubotukoyo001: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:10
apokryphos!language| koyo00103:10
BluesKaj!language03:10
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:10
koyo001sorry03:10
koyo001it was expression of joy03:10
koyo001not meant in a bad way03:10
Admiral_Chicagoi know it was03:10
koyo001sorry kids03:10
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koyo001lol03:11
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koyo001ok now i have no idea what to do03:11
rcrookhit update03:11
koyo001fetch updates???03:12
rcrookyup03:12
koyo001humm03:13
koyo001dont have amule03:13
koyo001or i mule on here03:13
rcrookone sec03:13
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rcrookmine says its in the universe component.   let me see what repos03:15
koyo001and why is it that when i go back to the repositories its not active????03:15
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fribuntuHi again03:16
Ace2016Hi03:16
fribuntuIs anyone else having problems with the NVidia drivers after the most recent upgrade?03:17
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fribuntuI had to switch back to "nv" to enable X1103:17
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Ace2016fribuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31820603:18
rcrooknot sure exactly what repos... but as you say if the repos is not enabled ...03:18
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koyo001well cause when i switch back and forth03:18
hoodyhi there!03:18
boqdanpolaken devastation03:19
koyo001when i go back its not active03:19
koyo001shouldnt it stay active???03:19
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rcrookits should yes. koyo00103:19
Ace2016Is there a software raid how to for ubuntu which uses the alternative install disk>?03:19
christianeBluesKaj: Solved the smb:// problem. I had to append the shared path to the url.03:20
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koyo001man linux really makes my hard diffcult03:20
malik__does any one know abt any skins for konqi besides the default settings?03:20
fribuntuAce2016: Thanks for the hint. I will try the methods described and reboot. brb :)03:21
hoodyi need help! kpowersave always want's me to start dbus although it is already started ... if i restart dbus the battery status shows up but i can't switch between powermodes03:21
rcrookthats the challange koyo001.. LOL, not sure whats going on..03:21
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koyo001hey it says to uncomment the lines03:21
koyo001shouldn't i uncomment03:22
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rcrookwhich is what the right click enable is supposed to do03:22
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rcrookor if you are keen you can manually edit the apt.sources file03:22
koyo001no it leaves it with the comment next to it03:22
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fribuntuAce2016: It worked. Thanks again for the hint. Was dead on.03:23
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BluesKajchristiane03:23
mattikHello. How do I disable the second ethernet card? My network have been slow after it that I install pppoe-password in adsl-router.03:23
BluesKajhow did you append the path tom the URL?...I'm having aprob getting my wifes windows pc to access this linuxbox03:24
Ace2016fribuntu: the link is from the message in the forums03:24
koyo001what is it supposed to write03:24
koyo001next to the universe one03:25
hyper_chanyone has winetools?03:25
koyo001instead of comment???03:25
BluesKajchristiane,  how did you append the path to the URL?...I'm having a prob getting my wife's windows pc to access this linuxbox03:25
rcrookthe ## is the comment marker at the beginning of the line03:25
christianeBluesKaj: After seeing nothing when typing "smb://user@server" I added the path: "smb://user@server/user" ... and it worked.03:25
rcrookwhen you enable the line the ## is supposed to vanish03:25
koyo001comment##03:26
fribuntuAce2016: Do you have any idea how I could test my 3D acceleration?03:26
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fribuntuAce2016: Some sort of minimal 3D test/benchmark for Linux ...03:26
BluesKajchristiane, did you edit the smb.conf to do this ?03:27
rcrookso the line should looks something like deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse03:27
christianeBluesKaj: No, I just had to type something else in Konqueror's url line.03:27
BluesKajok03:28
fribuntumattik: you can use "ifconfig ethX down" where X is the number of the device you want to disable.03:28
koyo001and cant i just write that03:28
christianeBluesKaj: Look, if there's a [homes]  section in smb.conf.03:28
mattikfribuntu: thank you :)03:28
xsachahttp://bur.st/~s/3d.jpg03:28
koyo001cause right now dont know why but when i enable it03:29
koyo001it just stays the same03:29
rcrookkoyo001: what does the whole line actually look like at the moment?03:29
mattikfribuntu: How I can do it automatically in boot time? By script?03:30
fribuntumattik: If you want to do that on a more permanent basis, disable "auto" in the /etc/network/interfaces file.03:30
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fribuntumattik: Then it will not autoconfig your second network card again :)03:30
mattikfribuntu: thank you03:30
BluesKajrcrook, and the rest of you guys when showing repos URLs pls put quotes around the whole address , otherwise noobs who cut and paste won't get the deb and the universe, multiverse parts03:30
koyo001comment## uncomment the following two lines to add software from the universe03:30
mattikfribuntu: So I have to start eth0 then some way03:31
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koyo001comment##repositories03:31
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fribuntufribuntu: No, you just set eth1 on manual and leave eth0 on auto of course.03:31
rcrookahhhhhh03:31
fribuntumattik: see above03:31
rcrooknow I see the problem03:31
fribuntumattik: and see "man interfaces" :)03:31
mattikfribuntu: thank you very much :) you are friendly guy :)03:32
koyo001so what is the problem03:32
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koyo001????????????????03:32
koyo001tell me03:32
fribuntumattik: Most people here are very friendly, really.03:32
koyo001cause i am clueless] 03:32
mattikfribuntu: It's sure :)03:32
rcrookkoyo001: about 7 lines down from the the "uncomment the following two lines is a line starting with deb03:32
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rcrookthat is the line you enable and then add multiverse at the end..03:33
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koyo001yes03:33
rcrookjust double click on the universe03:33
koyo001really03:33
rcrookyup03:33
rcrookthen add multiverse after universe03:34
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koyo001to witch line03:34
koyo001the one with deb03:34
rcrookthe two line starting with deb03:34
koyo001or the one with comment03:34
koyo001ok03:34
koyo001will try that see if it works03:34
rcrookthere is a deb and a deb-src03:34
rcrookyou dont really need the deb-src one tho03:35
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mattikfribuntu: Do I can comment lines what I don't need?03:35
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koyo001do i have to write universe03:36
koyo001at the end03:36
koyo001or just multiverse03:36
rcrookat the end you should have universe multiverse03:36
koyo001at the end of that line03:36
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fribuntumattik: You can.03:36
koyo001so i have to write universe03:36
koyo001and then multiverse03:36
rcrookjust write multiverse after the universe thats there03:37
fribuntumattik: Use "#" in the beginning of a line.03:37
koyo001there is no universe written there03:37
mattikfribuntu: thank you. I found error. I have pppoe-settings in /etc/network/interfaces -file03:37
rcrookhmmmm03:37
fribuntumattik: But note you can only comment whole lines, not just parts.03:37
mattikok03:37
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rcrookthe line should look like this ->>>> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse03:38
koyo001it says deb http>//cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/multiverse03:38
rcrooktho it might not be au.archive.03:38
theholycowHello, people of Earth. Fear me, for I am here to enslave your whole race! That, or to ask a question...I'm not really sure which.03:38
theholycowOkay, I guess I'll just ask a question. That whole race-enslaving thing sounds like a lot of work.03:39
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koyo001ok found the problem03:40
rcrookok...  you need to ensure the distribution is edgy and then the colunm for component is universe multiverse03:40
ganymed_hi03:40
koyo001the column written universe was completely hidden03:40
rcrookahhh03:40
rcrookok03:40
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ganymed_what is the standard prog for speed stepping (it is not powernowd anymore, is it)?03:41
rcrookpowersave should do it for you03:41
koyo001what is powersave??/03:41
theholycowIs there an efficient way to save a series of screenshots in one file? I've been saving individual images with ksnapshot, but it would be much quicker and easier to deal with if I could have screenshots go straight to the clipboard, where I can paste them all in one place...03:41
rcrookpowersave is a power management program for linux03:42
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koyo001comment was intended for someone else i think03:43
rcrooktheholycow: you could always paste the screenshots into operoffice write and save them as a pdf03:43
mattikfribuntu: firefox is now fast. It's more fast than firefox in XP.03:43
rcrooksorry koyo001, yes it was.03:43
theholycowrcrook: That's my plan, exactly. However, how do I get screenshots onto the clipboard? ksnapshot seems only to save.03:43
rcrooktheholycow: ... good point let me see...03:44
ganymed_correction, powernowd is still used. don't know, thought i had seen it not installed in synaptic03:45
theholycowrcrook: The ksnapshot handbook says there's a button for using the clipboard, but I don't see it...03:45
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koyo001ok now got a brand new question03:45
koyo001got 3 amules here03:45
rcrooktheholycow: its right under the save as button on the version I am using03:46
koyo001amule03:46
koyo001amule common03:46
koyo001amule daemon03:46
theholycowrcrook: What version? V .7.1 included in Breezy Badger is what I've got.03:46
koyo001no i just wanna know wich one is the right one to install03:46
drakeoutlawkoyo001: amule03:47
koyo001ah03:47
koyo001gracias03:47
drakeoutlawkoyo001: it will automagically install others if needed03:48
rcrooktheholycow: it says Ksnapshot 0.7 on my version.. I am using edgy03:48
ganymed_i use edgy. kaffeine used to work well (some issue with a window popping up twice for a second, but it started and worked), but now kaffeine just doesn't start. there is no output when i try starting it in a console03:49
koyo001wooooohoooo03:49
koyo001i think its gonna work03:49
koyo001if this works i am not going back to win03:49
theholycowrcrook: Argh...drat...curses...foiled again! <G> How can mine, which came with Breezy, by newer than yours from Edgy?03:49
rcrookno idea theholycow... LOL03:50
ganymed_seems to be since the first update, but as far as i remember this was just about updating the kernel libs03:50
rcrookkoyo001: I dropped loserdoze as my primary os 5 years back... lol03:50
rcrookrcrook@trinity:~$ ksnapshot --version03:51
rcrookQt: 3.3.603:51
rcrookKDE: 3.5.503:51
rcrookKSnapshot: 0.703:51
koyo001i tried dropping win in 96 with red hat03:51
ganymed_noone has problems with kaffeine???03:51
koyo001but because i was still in school03:51
koyo001and didnt have time03:52
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koyo001i just never could get time to learn03:52
murchadh_bhabatheholycow, Have you changed your repositories?03:52
rcrookthats the the version info on my ksnapshot theholycow03:52
harmentalhi eveybody...03:52
harmentaldo u know any easy way to send international faxes using kubuntu?03:52
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theholycowmurchadh_bhaba: I added a special-purpose repository that just has Musicbrainz Picard, a couple months ago03:53
rcrookharmental: not something I have ever tried.. sorry03:53
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BluesKajwhat is inetd ?03:57
koyo001rcrook03:58
Seveasimbrandon, you around?03:58
koyo001thank you very mutch03:58
koyo001for all your help03:58
koyo001really apreciated03:58
BluesKaj!inetd03:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:58
theholycowBluesKaj: It's a meta-daemon. It listens on various ports and runs individual daemons only as necessary to respond to requests.03:59
rcrookno problems koyo00103:59
koyo001thanks alot03:59
koyo001i got amule installed03:59
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fribuntumattik: Well congratulations.03:59
koyo001now just gotta figure out how this one works03:59
rcrookinetd is the super daemon that is used to handle alot of the tcp/ip services03:59
murchadh_bhabatheholycow, If that's the only extra repo, it shouldn't account for you having a newer version than rcrook. Are your repos dapper or edgy (not as silly a question as it may appear)?03:59
koyo001seeya03:59
robertNgon svensk hr som kan hjlpa mig?03:59
rcrookseeya koyo04:00
robertsomebody goot at wlan? can't figure out how to install my wlan on linux?04:00
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theholycowmurchadh_bhaba: Nope, I just checked. My repos are definitely Breezy. However, maybe rcrook doesn't have edgy-updates.04:01
rcrookI do theholycow:)04:01
BluesKajok thx theholycow... trying to get permission fro my wife's windows pc to read and write over our network to this linux box , but i can't find any situations in samba/swat instructions that fit ...any ideas ?04:01
murchadh_bhabatheholycow, Seems likely!04:02
theholycowBluesKaj: Works for me, default out of the box, as far as configuration on the Ubuntu side. For Windows, be sure all permissions are set correctly.04:02
rcrookBluesKaj: permissions with samba can get really complicated...04:02
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BluesKajif i knew how to set them up correctly , I wouldn't need to ask :)04:03
rcrookif I remember that is some doco on the samba site that covers the permission04:03
rcrooklet me see if I can remeber where they are04:03
theholycowBluesKaj: If it's XP, my experience has been that it's quite simple. I right-clicked a folder, went to "Sharing", and enabled R/W access.04:04
MurchadhBluesKaj: You trying to write to shares on a linux PC?04:05
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theholycowBluesKaj: Then, I just went into Konqueror, went to the default page (" about:konqueror ") that links to "Network Folders", and accessed the XP box from there.04:05
MurchadhBluesKaj: That I can do, I'll sit at my Kubuntu machine and go through it with you if I can help.04:05
BluesKajI can access the windows pc ok ...it's vice versa that want to do04:08
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MidMarkBluesKaj: samba?04:08
BluesKajyes Murchadh04:08
MidMarkhave you created a user?04:08
BluesKajyes samba04:08
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BluesKajwhere04:08
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Ace2016hi all04:09
Murchadhtheholycow: My fresh Kubuntu 6.10 shows ksnapshot version 0.7!04:09
Ace2016Will using a software raid give me a faster startup?04:09
MidMarksmbpasswd -a <user>04:09
MidMarkunfortunetally in the system settings creating a samba user doesn't take effects04:09
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theholycowMurchadh: How did I wind up wiht .7.1? Weird!04:09
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BluesKajMidMark, I'm on the linuxbox ...I need to set it up so I can write from the windows pc to the linuxbox ...I have read/write access from the linuxbox to the windows pc , already.04:11
theholycowHow can I assign a key combination to run a program? I think I'll just use scrot for my screen shots, which I'll assemble from individual files later...04:11
MidMarkBluesKaj: I have understood, but you don't have the viceversa04:11
BluesKajyup04:11
MidMarkand I have tell to you how to do this04:11
MidMark^^^^^^^^^^^04:12
BluesKajwell, someone04:12
MidMarkhttp://www.samba.netfirms.com/addusers.htm04:12
Murchadhtheholycow: Worth looking into. Can't find version 0.71 on google!04:12
TheGateKeeperBluesKaj: should be a simple case of installing samba then going to System Settings --> Sharing & setup your shares04:13
MidMarkTheGateKeeper: no, if there is no user there is no way04:13
MidMarkand the only way now is the way I have said04:13
MidMarkor manually editing the config samba file04:13
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rcrookGeez... its been awhile since I looked the doco up on sambas site.. theres plenty there ... the Howto up there may help. http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/04:14
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BluesKajTheGateKeeper...samba is installed , sharing is set up ...wife's windows pc just can't read/write to this linuxbox04:15
MurchadhBluesKaj: Let's see what I have. Midmark, I don't add users to write to my shares. Anyone allowed through my firewall has full write access to my writeable shares.04:15
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MurchadhBluesKaj: Wife is running what Win Ver?04:15
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BluesKajMurchadh, there doesn't seem to be a anything on the smb.conf file either ... it's blank ..that must be a problem04:16
MidMarkMurchadh: I haven't said to let writing nothing, I have said that without a user in samba config you will be never access from windows04:16
BluesKajXP SP2 Pro04:16
MidMarkanyway if you want to resolve you do like I have said04:16
MidMarkbye04:16
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rcrookhere is an exaple of a share config I have set up on my local lan04:17
rcrook[public] 04:17
ubuntu_ne lan04:17
rcrook        comment = Public Data04:17
rcrook        path = /net/public04:17
rcrook        read only = No04:17
rcrook        create mask = 066604:17
rcrook        directory mask = 077704:17
rcrook        inherit permissions = Yes04:17
rcrook        force user = rcrook04:17
rcrook        force group = rcrook04:17
mindspin!paste04:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:17
rcrookthanks mindspin:)04:18
TheGateKeeperBluesKaj: well that is what I did a while back on my test box, but if you are trying to do things without any users or something odd ball then you are going to have to trawl through 100 of pages of documentation trying to figure out what's going wrong04:18
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ubuntu_hi04:19
MurchadhBluesKaj: Is the linux PC firewalled.04:20
ubuntu_hi girls04:20
theholycowOkay, my partial solution to my screenshot need: I ran Kcontrol, searched for "hotkey", and found it unintuitively placed in "Regional & Accessibility". I assigned a hotkey to run a script which is as follows: "cd ~/Documents/scrot && scrot". I tried just putting that command in the hotkey definition, but it wouldn't run; instead it tried to open that in konqueror.04:20
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ubuntu_fuck you grl04:20
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BluesKajno Murchadh , we're behind a router04:20
Jucatoyay! :)04:20
Jucatothat was pretty swift, apokryphos04:21
apokryphos:)04:21
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BluesKajgood one apokryphos04:21
theholycowThat all results in my PrintScreen key quickly, easily, and non-troublesomely saving a file. Later, I can just dump them all into one file.04:21
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Murchadhapokryphos: hehe. Niiiisse!04:21
apokryphossome rude words on highlight, yeah04:21
theholycowIs there a command that can copy an image file to the clipboard? I could put that in my script, and really make my day...04:22
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rcrooktheholycow: you could use gimp04:22
BluesKajMurchadh, i have no text whatsoever in the smb.conf file ...isn't that strange ?04:22
Murchadhtheholycow: I'd write that as a scriopt, save it where you keep scripts, and point at the script from there.04:22
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Jucatotheholycow: I'm not sure if either Ctrl+PrintScreen or Alt+PrintScreen copies directly to the clipboard04:23
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theholycowrcrook: gimp --help tells me that there's a batch mode. Maybe that would work.04:23
Jucatobut they're in Keyboard Shortcuts... haven't really used them..04:23
MurchadhBluesKaj: Yeah. If you right click on a folder in home, and click properties, do you get a sharing option as a tab along the top of the dialog that pops up.04:23
theholycowd'oh!04:23
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theholycowJucato: You're right! Alt-printscreen seems to do the job.04:24
theholycowThat's what I was looking for all along... :)04:24
BluesKajMurchadh , that's not what i asked04:25
Jucatotheholycow: glad I could randomly help :P04:25
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llutzhi04:26
rcrookhi llutz04:26
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ubuntulol04:27
theholycowSweet! Now I can finally do that homework... ;)04:27
rcrooklol04:27
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BluesKajMurchadh what oes this mean "smbpasswd -a <user>" ... am i supposed to use a username in <user> or a password .. it's confusing to me ?04:29
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BluesKajtheholycow, ? someone ? what does this mean "smbpasswd -a <user>" ?.. am i supposed to use a username in <user> or a password .. it's confusing to me04:31
rcrookyes.. it means you supply a username04:31
theholycowBluesKaj: username, I guess04:31
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BluesKajguess ...lets not guess04:31
rcrookge: smbpasswd -a rcrook04:31
rcrookit will then ask you for a password04:32
theholycowBluesKaj: smbpasswd --help says -a is "add user"04:32
MurchadhBluesKaj: You need a smb.conf. Are you sure it's not there at /etc/samba?04:32
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rcrookmake it the same as the username and password your wife has on the windows box04:32
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BluesKajhangon Murchadh, lemme look04:33
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BluesKajMurchadh, yup it's there in the samba folder , no wonder i couldn't call it up ...kdesu kate ..doesn't work on folders04:35
MurchadhBluesKaj: hehe04:36
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BluesKajok, now what am i looking for in the smb.conf file , Murchadh?04:36
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Murchadh[DATA] 04:39
Murchadhpath = /DATA04:39
Murchadhguest ok = yes04:39
Murchadhread only = no04:39
MurchadhBluesKaj, I have the following lines for a share (at the bottom of the file) - [data]  -NL- path= /DATA -NL- guest ok = yes -NL- read only = no (-NL- means a newline).04:39
ravermeisterhello i've got a problem....04:39
ravermeisteri use knetworkmanager to make a connection to my wpa secured wlan network04:40
curuxzhey all im trying to get my printer working in kde, its a printer on a windows pc and in Smb4k i can browse the win box fine and see it, yet when i go to printers in systems settings and press scan it can see the pc but WONT let me browse it saying "NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED" any ideas please?04:40
ravermeisterbut everytime i restart my computer04:40
ravermeisteri have to put in my password and i get an errormessage from the kdewallet04:40
ravermeisterwhat can i do to fix this??04:40
MurchadhBluesKaj: Have a look through to see that "valid users =" isn't set for now.04:40
MurchadhSorry! My paste had already worked.04:41
ravermeisterthe error message is this one: http://virusmaster.homelinux.com/networkmanager.jpg04:42
MurchadhBluesKaj: Removing ; enables the line! ?-}04:43
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Red-Soxhttp://pastebin.ca/28116704:43
xsachaanyone know a nice standalone GUI debugger? (not integrated into an IDE and not insight)04:43
Red-Soxany ideas?04:43
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ravermeisterbut when i open the kdewallet, the password is stored there yet look here: http://virusmaster.homelinux.com/wallet.jpg04:43
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ravermeisterplease help me04:43
hexidigital_can anyone provide info on how to remove the pixelated border from konsole? i want to have a transparent terminal for TOP & other admin tools04:44
christianeHello. I installed 6.10 on /dev/sda6. Now I repartitioned, created a new /dev/sda6 while my old /dev/sda6 is now /dev/sda7, copied all files from new 7 to new 6 and booted grub (which loaded new 6 as /). Now ubuntu is running, / is the new 6 (I can see the new size of /), but it's called /dev/sda7. WTF happened here? There's no sda7 entry in syslog or dmesg.04:44
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BluesKajnope Murchadh, still no access from windows pc04:47
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ravermeisternobody a solution for me?04:47
MurchadhRed-Sox: You're versions are too new for the version of gnutella you're trying to install. Hmmm....04:49
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tillihallo04:50
tillijemand da?04:50
Red-SoxMurchadh: Oh...04:50
MurchadhRed-Sox: Sounds like you need to update a repository.04:50
tillii hate widows04:51
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Murchadhtilli: From what I can ascertain, you are in the right place!04:51
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MurchadhRed-Sox: Paste-bin your /etc/apt/sources.list04:52
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tillican someone tell my how i can play mp3s with amarok?04:53
tillisorry, i am a newbie04:53
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Red-Soxhttp://pastebin.ca/28116904:54
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Red-SoxMurchadh: ^04:54
MurchadhBluesKaj: First off, I don't have a winpc to see if I can access samba shares. My dsl laptop, kubuntu laptop, and xbox all see my kubuntu shares. Midmark may be onto something about having to add samba users!04:54
Red-SoxMurchadh: and Edgy04:54
MurchadhRed-Sox: You are mixing repos there. Not good!04:55
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MurchadhRed-Sox: Probably picking up the latest dapper version of ksnapshot which is looking for old libs.04:56
ArrAKeeNhello04:56
MurchadhRed-Sox: At this stage, I think commenting out all dapper repos, or updating them to edgy. Anyone else; ideas?04:57
MurchadhBluesKaj: You don't have anything other than a windows laptop to check access to your kubuntu shares. I'd suggest a DSL livedisk or somesuch. Boot girlfriends laptop, and try to samba mount your shares. At least then we'll have narrowed down the problem04:59
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BluesKajMurchadh, do I add samba users in the smb.conf file or in the terminal ...I followed his  smbpasswd [options]  [username]  etc in the terminal but it doesn't work on the windows pc04:59
ubuntujest ktos z POLSKI?04:59
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Jucato!pl05:00
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl05:00
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pulltabI'd honestly have to say that Suse is better.05:02
MurchadhBluesKaj: Read the sections under Authentication in smb.conf. I have those sections all commented out. Check yours...05:03
BluesKajMurchadh , both pcs are desktops , and connected to a seimens router ...no laptops here05:03
MurchadhBluesKaj: Still recomend a live cd to troubleshoout. You can boot girlfriends pc with dynabolic or dsl, try to mount the samba shares. If it works, there are windows iossues we must sort out, if you can't access them from linux we'll know there is more to to on Kubuntu file sharer.05:05
MurchadhBluesKaj: A live distro won't change a thing on the WinPC!05:05
MurchadhBluesKaj:  issues even!05:06
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BluesKajMurchadh, my wife's windows pc is accessible from the linuxbox05:07
MurchadhBluesKaj: Sorry wife's PC. Yeah I know. I just want to find out if your PC is actually sharing anything. I've forgotten most of my windows training, so I'm trying a different route to establish that there is actually something to connect to. ?-)05:09
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MurchadhBluesKaj:  Just trying to narrow down the range of problems. No point trying to connect to something that isn't really shared properly.05:11
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rcrooknight all05:13
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MurchadhBluesKaj: My methods might not make much sense, I dunno. I use Dynabolic and DSL to troubleshoot dodgy PC's all the time. Especially in virus troubled installations/networks! Boot from a live cd, do your bits and pieces look around, isolate problems, reboot, back in the users OS!05:14
BluesKajok, Murchadh NP :) the windows partition on this box and wife's can share files05:14
MurchadhBluesKaj: There is a windows install on your PC also?05:15
BluesKajyes05:15
BluesKajI would like to migrate to linux totally tho05:15
BluesKajon this pc05:15
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BluesKajI also have access to this windows partition from wife's pc05:19
BluesKajand access from the linux partition to wifes pc05:20
MurchadhBluesKaj: Doesn't really help. Just means the networking is setup right which we knew.05:20
BluesKajbut no access from wifes windows to this linuxbox05:20
MurchadhBluesKaj: First off, how mine works. I'm just thinking back to my own situation. I dunno that I got sharing working on Kubuntu until I setup firestarter and allowed the IPs of all PCs that were to have access. It might be worth a try. Give me 5 mins, and I'll have a root through some notes.05:20
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wildchildhow can I load .sub and .idy subtitles with kaffeine?05:22
wildchild.idx*05:22
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shadowhywindhay all just a quick question, if a filesystem is readonly. how would i go about changing it to read+ write, and its a vfat05:29
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Murchadhshadowhywind: You have to add umask=000 to your /etc/fstab or mount command. Like this sudo mount -t vfat -o re,umask=000 /dev/h??? /media/h??? (replace ??? with da1 or whatever).05:31
Murchadhshadowhywind: sudo umount /dev/h??? first to unmount it.05:32
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imbrandonSeveas: yea05:35
Seveasdennis@mirage:~$ ssh imbrandon.sytes.net05:36
Seveasssh: connect to host imbrandon.sytes.net port 10022: Connection refused05:36
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Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume05:36
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imbrandonSeveas: crap , ok give me a sec05:36
Dr_willisLots of good info there.. worth bookmarking for all your ntfs/vfat needs. :)05:36
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MurchadhBluesKaj: My install procedure involves setting up firestarter and allowing all my PC's access to the services on this kubuntu box. Until we can establish that it's possible to connect to your kubuntu shares at all, there is no point in trying to figure out why windows won't connect.05:39
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MurchadhBluesKaj: The fact that they connect under windows just tells us that the wiring and hardware are OK.05:40
BluesKajwhat does a FW have to do with the prob?05:40
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MurchadhBluesKaj: How do we establish whether it is possible to connect to your kubuntu shares? I still recommend a live boot cd. I can then help you establish that kubuntu is in fact making that share available. ?)05:42
Dr_willisLast i set up samba on kubuntu, i had to enable the home shares in the samba.conf (make them writeable also) and perhaps browsewable, then for each user do a 'sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME'05:43
Dr_willisthat was after installing the samba and samba-doc packages05:43
Dr_willis!info samba-docs05:43
ubotuPackage samba-docs does not exist in any distro I know05:43
Dr_willis!find samba05:43
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ubotuFound: python2.4-samba, samba, samba-common, samba-dbg, samba-doc (and 6 others)05:43
MurchadhBluesKaj: Boot dsl, open a term, sudo smbmount //ip_address/share_name /mount_point. There is an equivalent means in windows, I'm sure, but I'm not that man!05:44
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tecloHello. Everytime I run kcontrol or kdmtheme, and disable themes, I get SIGSEGV !05:46
MurchadhBluesKaj: My sharing requirements are minimal, anyone who can get past my firewall can access my shares, so I don't use the users section.05:46
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Murchadhteclo: What version.05:47
tecloMurchadh: 3.5.205:47
apokryphosand what's "disable themes"?05:47
Murchadhteclo: And Kubuntu ver?05:47
apokryphosdo you mean change themes?05:47
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tecloapokryphos: there's an option called "disable themes"05:47
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tecloMurchadh: 6.0605:48
Alarmhello. i got a simple but kind of weird question. i changed from the control center the to sans serif 8. the fonts did really change in the k-meny and konqueror menu as well. but under firefox or the adept manager the fonts are still huge. how can that be changed ?05:49
apokryphosteclo: does the problem happen when you use kubuntu's system settings?05:49
tecloah it's called "Enable KDE themes"05:49
tecloapokryphos: Yes, it also happens that way05:49
BluesKajwell anyway thanks for trying Murchadh ...eventually I'll convince wifey to run linux and then the problem should go away :)05:49
wildchildhow can I encrypt file with edgy=05:49
wildchild?*05:49
tecloIt happens when I use kdmtheme directly05:49
tecloor when I use the the system settings05:49
apokryphosno useful output on the command line?05:50
xsachaanyone know why kmd is all gtk when it has a k in it? :( i was hoping it would be qt05:50
apokryphosif you want to change your KDM theme then you can edit the kdmrc file manually05:50
Murchadhteclo: Yeah, That started to crash on me to. I made several posts about it way back, but now use 6.10. There were 2 or three things in control panel that used crash kubuntu. It had worked for ages before that.05:50
xsachathis one: kmd http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/1541/debuggerbm6.png05:50
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tecloapokryphos: kdmrc manually ? great05:51
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apokryphosteclo: if the app is broken of course the only thing I can tell you to do is file a bug report05:52
MurchadhAlarm: Firefox uses the gtk settings I think. So > System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts. Report back....05:52
apokryphospast that, if you need a workaround, you can edit the file.05:52
apokryphoswhich isn't that cryptic05:52
dromerhey all, I'm having trouble getting mplayer to play certain streaming media (mplayer-plugin)05:52
AlarmMurchadh:  i did activate to use kde fonts, didnt change05:52
tecloapokryphos: bug reports seem to be useless with ubuntu/kubuntu. I already sent many of them, there is no progress of any kind on these bugs.05:52
dromerthe plugin connects to the media, and starts buffering, but eventually doesn't play05:53
apokryphosteclo: bug number?05:53
tecloapokryphos: it's useless05:53
MurchadhBluesKaj: You still need to establish that kubuntu is sharing properly. It's brought me back though...05:54
MurchadhBluesKaj: Nice chatting to you...05:54
MurchadhBluesKaj: Windows, hmmm...05:55
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teclookay where in the kdmrc file do I have to change to disable the kdm theme ?05:56
MurchadhAlarm: GTK Styles Use Another Style => QT, GTK Fonts Use another font (say 20).Stop firefox, restart firefox.;05:56
apokryphosteclo: see the howto on kdelook.org05:57
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Alarmi do: use my kde style in gtk apps , and kde fonts in gtk apps . so it should be everywhere the same i guess05:58
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MurchadhJust set my Firefox to use a cursive script, looks silly, but cute. Awww...05:59
MurchadhChanging back...05:59
MurchadhPretending to be a grown up....06:00
Alarma kind of weird question. which font looks more similar to the default font of windows ?06:00
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dr0fnax!xgl06:02
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:02
Black5un!vnc06:03
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX06:03
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steveireI find firefox very slow to start on Kubuntu. I use konqueror for everything except gmail (for which I use opera). Any one else have a slow ff?06:05
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MurchadhAlarm: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxFonts.html and http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/res_fonts.htm are good reads. Interesting stuff too.06:06
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makka__ciao a tutti06:06
Alarmthanks06:06
Murchadhsteveire: Have you many add-ons, etc.?06:07
steveireNo, don't think so.06:07
makka__Hi all,I wanted to know if anyone knows how to configure kopete beause I think it's quite illegibile http://www.ilsoftware.it/forum/download.php?id=2842 thnak's a lot,evenif noone is able to answer :D06:07
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Murchadhmakka__: I only use it for IRC. Can I be of help?06:07
hattahi I'm having some trouble with amarok on kubuntu06:08
Murchadhsteveire: What version FF, what version OS?06:08
hattawhen I try to configure my collection it only shows me two folders06:08
BluesKajkoptete is for IMs , otherwise it sucks for IRC06:08
hatta /home and /media06:08
makka__it's kopete ofor msn06:08
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hattado you know how I can make it show all my folders?06:08
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steveireff2.0 Edgy. It's not a major problem. I far prefer Konq. I just wish it could use gmail chat.06:09
Murchadhhatta: Are you on kubuntu 6.10? Then most root folders are hidden.06:09
Murchadh!hidden06:09
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles06:09
hattathat's a feature?!06:09
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Murchadhhatta: hehe06:09
BluesKajhatta, let amarok scan your drive for music files06:09
makka__It's appear :one contact deep blue,the other white,i can't read.I think it's a confguration problem,but I can't see how to fix it06:09
PhinnFort!beforelight06:10
hattaI only have a few folders with music files, it would be silly for it to scan 100gb of crap for no reason06:10
ubotubeforelight: X client - beforelight. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 80 kB06:10
PhinnForthatta: you can choose which folders to scan06:10
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Murchadhhatta: You can just delete /.hidden or rename it or remove the name of the folder you want visible from that file. It's a simple text file, anything in it is hidden bu konqueror but accessible all the same, as long as you know whaere it is.06:11
PhinnFortis beforelight needed for anything?06:11
hattaMurchadh, great thanks06:11
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PhinnFortwhat pros has adept compared to kpackage?06:14
MurchadhBluesKaj: What don't you like about kopete? I used to use konversation, and I really liked it, but I've started to use kopete recently. Configured it to my liking and leave it run. Have xchat 2.4.3 on my 9 year old dsl-n laptop.06:14
fribuntuPhinnFort: Use whichever you prefer.06:15
fribuntufribuntu: I use aptitude :)06:15
PhinnFortjust wondering;)06:15
fribuntuPhinnFort: errm, I use aptitude06:16
PhinnFortkpackage seems much better, but it isn't default06:16
fribuntuPhinnFort: Kpackage can work with more than just "deb", I think.06:16
PhinnFortyeah06:16
BluesKajxchat is ok ...konversation is my preference ...kopete is buggy and arcane06:16
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PhinnForti used it under gentoo too06:16
PhinnFortkopete is very good06:17
PhinnFortyou should try it06:17
MurchadhPhinnFort: There are many package managers, and some are better at removing installs than others. You'll probably get many people expressing an opinion on which is best. I use adept, and run dpkg -l > ~/Applists/Applist.yyymmdd after all upgrade/downgrades. Keeps atrack of all installed software which is easily diff'ed with previous Applist.???????? files to establish changes to the system and enable repair.06:17
PhinnFortwell, it was just an observation, since adept seems awfully sluggish06:18
fribuntuPhinnFort: If you want a fast package manager, try "aptitude".06:18
PhinnFortwell, kpackage seems to be just as snappy;)06:19
PhinnFortand the interface is better than aptitude, but that's my opinion06:19
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MurchadhPhinnFort: Example: at a prompt: dpkg -l > ~/Applists/Applist.existing, run adept (or whatever, apt-get) and install something, then dpkg -l > ~/Applists/Applist.new, then diff ~/Applists/Applist.existing ~/Applists/Applist.new06:21
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MurchadhPhinnFort: You can pipe the output into a file with a name that explains what it is like Apps.Diff.yyymmdd.yyyymmdd.06:23
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PhinnFortok06:24
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PhinnForthow do i restart a service with that nifty new service manager?06:24
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PhinnFort!lighttpd06:25
ubotulighttpd: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.13~r1370-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 288 kB, installed size 852 kB06:25
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PhinnFort!lighttpd&php06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lighttpd&php - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
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MurchadhI think adept has a name for being slow, but I think it gets all permissions straight before it starts, synaptic and kpackage only access the lock files when you actually say yes to an install. Is this accurate? Sometimes the password screen for adept disappears but no adept, clicking it again brings it up properly. I have a black hole somewhere, full of unhappy adepts!06:27
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MurchadhPhinnFort: Are you in Administrator Mode?06:28
PhinnFort?06:28
PhinnFortroot?06:28
PhinnForti sudo it before i run it, yes06:28
wimpiesNeed some help getting my sound back up.  The modules do not want to load anymore claing version mismatch ...06:28
BluesKajtrying kopete ...it's certainly different ...these silly icons next to nicks gotta go :)06:28
PhinnFort:P06:29
MurchadhPhinnFort: No, bottom of screen beside the close button.06:29
PhinnFortMurchadh: you lost me...06:29
PhinnForti don't have a close button06:30
PhinnForti've got a rather filled kicker with applets, systray and some apps06:30
BluesKajyeah, where is the close button06:30
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PhinnForti have one in the top right corner though06:30
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BluesKajyup06:31
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MurchadhPhinnFort: System Settings > Advanced > System Services (Under System Administration). Then you shoud see administrator Mode button.06:31
PhinnFortah...06:31
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PhinnForti just did /etc/init.d/lighttpd restart06:31
PhinnFort(it was lighttpd i needed to restart, btw)06:32
MurchadhPhinnFort: Can you do it via the GUI now?06:32
BluesKaji'm talking about these dumb kopete icons beside the nicks in the channel text06:32
PhinnFortBluesKaj: tried a different theme?06:32
MurchadhBluesKaj: Try it in Gaim mode or Clear.06:33
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MurchadhBluesKaj: Settings > Configure > Appearance > Chat Window06:34
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MurchadhBluesKaj: I'm using clear but like gaim too.06:34
PhinnFortor click "get new..." and download glossyk06:34
PhinnFortdarn purtty06:34
PhinnFort:P06:34
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MurchadhPhinnFort: glossyk will have to be given a chance then!06:35
PhinnFort:D06:35
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wimpiesare there know issues with edgy and 2.6.17-10 kernel ? AKA. how can I reinstall a linux kernel ?06:35
jendaThere is a quiz at 20:00 UTC tonight in #ubuntu-trivia! Be sure to attend, and if you're lucky, you might win a prime Ubuntu Poster! (Today's sponsor: rob)06:35
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PhinnFort"2006-12-16 18:36:02: (mod_fastcgi.c.1034) to be exact: it seg-fault, crashed, died, ... you get the idea."06:36
jenda:)06:36
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PhinnFort#ubuntu-trivia! is empty... watch that punctuation06:36
PhinnFort:P06:36
pierrethhello, do you know how I can segment a file?06:37
PhinnFortpierreth: split it?06:37
PhinnForttry ark06:37
pierrethyes06:37
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PhinnForti think ark has support for splitting archives06:37
pierrethOK06:37
saharaabhallo06:37
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PhinnFortsaharaab: hello06:38
hattais krusader available in edgy?06:38
apokryphos!info krusader06:38
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB06:38
hattaI don't seem to be able to apt-get it06:39
apokryphosyou need to enable the Universe repository06:39
apokryphoshatta: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic06:39
naliothhatta: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?06:39
hattathanks06:39
hattaI'll read up06:39
PhinnFort!dolphin06:39
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB06:39
PhinnFort!universe06:40
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:40
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spitwise!multiverse06:43
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:43
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xenolplz why i get "There was an error commiting changes. Posiblly there was a problem downloading some packages and or the commmit would break packages." type error when i want to install new updates?06:45
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PhinnFortxenol: first run "sudo apt-get updgrade" in a konsole and copy&paste the output to rafb.net/paste06:46
PhinnFortthen read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html06:47
PhinnFort:P06:47
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pierrethPhinnFort: No I don't think so06:49
xenol!paste06:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:49
PhinnFortpierreth: do you have java?06:49
PhinnFortif so, try hjsplit06:49
pierrethPhinnFort: No06:49
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xenolok the log is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37396/06:49
PhinnFortfscking slow server...06:50
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BluesKajkopete is fluffy eye candy ...too much attn to the look , not enuff to ease of use06:50
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PhinnFortBluesKaj: how so?06:51
Jucatoxenol: are you on Dapper?06:51
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PhinnFortxenol: could you paste your sources.list too?06:52
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xenolcan anyone help me plz?06:52
Jucato:O06:52
bluehi guys, instead of switching to a full unstable ubuntu, is it possible to install unstable apps of my choice?06:52
BluesKajPhinnFort, it's my opinion , ya don't have to agree :)06:52
xenolyep i am on dapper06:52
PhinnFortxenol: if you answer questions, you will get help06:52
xenolok sec i copy my sorces list06:52
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PhinnFortBluesKaj: i just don't see much they could've done different;)06:53
Jucatoxenol: did you follow the instructions about adding the key mentioned in this page? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-16.php06:53
BluesKaj<---not  really visual type ...if it's suprefluous , get rid of it :)06:54
xenoljucato first time i did that upgrade at friend when i did at home i got this error06:54
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xenol!paste06:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:54
xenolhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37398/06:54
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xenol!restricted formats06:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:55
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ubuntuAA06:58
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ubuntumerda06:58
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xenolhow can i redownload packages? :p06:59
pierrethPhinnFort: I found split but I don't know how to put back the files toghter06:59
h4netdeedsmerda06:59
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h4netdeedsmerd07:01
h4netdeedsalgum brasileiro ai?07:01
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Jucato_!br07:01
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.07:01
gephaltare there any applications that can help to convert .lit in linux?07:02
h4netdeedseu quero saber como entrar na brasnet?07:02
Murchadhpierreth: cat file1 file2 > file307:04
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h4netdeeds#porradarock07:04
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Murchadhpierreth: cat file1 file2 > file3 creates file3 from file1 and file2. cat file1 file2 >> file3 adds the contents of file 1 and file2 to file3.07:06
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oencze :D07:07
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xenolso anyone got any ideas about my prob plz?07:07
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urlilalalla07:09
urli,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,07:09
urliwkklrleflj 9ir34f07:09
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urliQ  mierda es estoooooooooooo07:10
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xenolwhy is everyone ignoring me? :/07:11
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toruser_767!kernel07:16
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:16
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bitkii installed an nvidia driver off nvidia's website, now X fails to start, how do i install the old driver ?07:19
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matthewbitki, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:20
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matthewbitki, I think07:20
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kraetzichrizHow to enter my mail-address on konversation?07:20
Murchadhxenol: Try sudo apt-get remove package: sudo apt-get install package or sudo dpkg-reconfigure package07:21
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kraetzichrizI'm always getting this error:07:21
kraetzichriz[19:19]  [468]  Connect with your real username, in lowercase.07:21
kraetzichriz[19:19]  [468]  If your mail address were foo@bar.com, your username would be foo.07:21
kraetzichriz[19:19]  [error]  Closing Link: kraetzichriz by ign.ie.quakenet.org (USER: Bad username)07:21
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wimpiescan *Anybody* help me out getting my sound modules back loadable.  after update/crash or whatever they claim invalid version07:24
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wimpiesplease ... ?07:27
hustononly english???07:28
LjL!en07:28
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat07:28
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pierrethMurchadh: OK, I was not sure if things worked with binary07:31
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sebastianHey guys07:33
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sebastianI came here cause I got very frustrated with iptables07:33
sebastianIt won't forward packets07:33
kraetzichrizsebastian: try #iptables07:33
sebastianOK07:33
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esaymcrud i forgot how to install Synaptic07:37
esaymi cant use apt-get right?07:37
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matthewesaym, sudo apt-get install synaptic07:38
esaymhmm i just tried that i thought, one sec07:38
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matthewesaym, I gotta go...sorry.07:38
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esaymoh it works, cant have capital S07:39
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arunkalehey people, does any one know any good bittorrent clients for kde apart from ktorrent and azureus07:39
bubu1ukbittorrent, or i use rtorrent, but it's console07:40
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arunkalebittorent has a linux version?07:40
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cloakableYup07:40
arunkaledoes it work better than ktorrent07:41
bubu1ukeither GUI for it.07:41
bubu1ukdunno, it's about same. what u mean better?07:41
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arunkalei mean, ktorrent stopped working for me07:42
bubu1ukwhy?07:42
MurchadhThere's also bittornado, but I find ktorrent good!07:42
arunkaleit only seeds, it doesnt leech07:42
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olliehi guys07:43
olliedoes anyone know07:43
olliewhy this happend07:43
ollie*** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60.07:43
ollie*** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer07:43
olliemake[1] : *** [cvs]  Error 107:43
olliedoesnt really make much sense to me :/07:43
Jucatohm...07:44
olliewas trying to compile kxdocker07:45
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Jucatoyou have the necessary devel packages installed, I presume?07:46
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arunkaleYo Jucato07:46
JucatoI'm not sure if automake1.9 is also needed07:46
arunkalewhats up!07:46
Jucatohi arunkale07:46
arunkalelong time07:46
Jucatoheh yeah07:46
olliewell, it seems to crash on an error with autoconf07:46
Jucatowhat's up? I'm up, at 2:45 AM07:46
olliei may re-install autoconf07:46
ollieand see what happens07:46
Jucatook, but check if you have kde-devel and automake (latest version) installed too07:47
olliewhoa07:47
olliethis might explain a few things07:47
olliei think kde-devel was missing :)07:47
olliecheers hehe07:47
olliecya07:47
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Jucatoheh07:49
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papamacosziasztok07:50
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kulbir how do I Disable the firewall?07:51
Murchadhkulbir: What firewall is running and where?07:51
kulbiriptables07:52
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kulbirhello07:54
Murchadhkulbir: ipchains -F is how on ipchains. look here http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=749681&admit=-682735245+1166295238855+2835347507:54
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Murchadhkulbir: service iptables stop07:55
kulbirMurchadh thanks man :D07:55
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Murchadhkulbir: Hope it worked. Don't forget to put it back on when you've finished sorting out whatever it is! ?)07:56
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kulbirservice iptables stop is not working.07:58
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kulbirMurchadh done thanks :)08:00
Alarmhello, i just installed the latest jdk succesfully, and when i try to run an application i get the following:  Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...08:00
Alarmls: /usr/java: No such file or directory08:00
AlarmOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy08:00
AlarmYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com08:00
AlarmHow could this be fixed ?08:00
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Murchadhkulbir: Great!08:01
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pabloodissea_hello08:02
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pabloodissea_I have a problem with kcontrol... if I attempt to set monitor stop... the new configuration isn't saved by kcontrol!!!08:05
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xenolk can someone give me repository where can i download koffice-data koffice-libs krita krita-data and libcms1 from plz?08:07
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pabloodissea_deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-161 edgy main08:10
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|WAL|can someone tell me where the instructions for playing mp3's on Kubuntu are?08:12
xenol!restricted formats08:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:13
xenolhere08:13
xenolthe first link08:13
xenoljust downlaod libxine-extracodecs08:13
|WAL|txs08:13
drkmI have just installed kubuntu-desktop.. but the keyboard map installed in English-US.. I'm in the UK so how can I install English-UK?08:13
xenoldrkm go to kmenu system setting08:14
BluesKajdrkm, system/settings/regional&language08:15
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drkmBluesKaj: yeah I know where to change it, but if I select Add Language, it only has English-US.. no option for UK?08:15
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BluesKajcountry region and languge tab08:16
drkmBluesKaj: yeah it is set as United Kingdom.. but the keyboard map is still for a US keybaord08:17
BluesKajonce you choose uk , british english will be an option08:17
xenolblueskaj dont u know where from i can downlaod koffice-data koffice-libs krita krita-data and libcms1?08:17
Murchadhdrkm: Do you use adept.08:17
drkmBluesKaj: it's not on mine.. I can only choose English-US08:18
drkmMurchadh: no, that's that?08:18
BluesKajxenol , have you tried adept or synaptic08:18
xenolyes but i get error and in console it says erro 40408:18
xenolfor the repository where i can downlaod it frm08:19
xenoldont u know some other?08:19
BluesKajno sorry08:19
xenol:/08:19
drkmMurchadh: ?08:19
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eMaXre08:21
xenol!krita08:21
BluesKajstrange drkm, are you choosing your region first? if you don't you have no other options08:21
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2463 kB, installed size 7768 kB08:21
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xenolplz anyone know where can i download koffice-data koffice-libs krita krita-data and libcms1 from? plz08:21
Murchadhdrkm: Trying to find the name of the keyboard driver to use?08:21
drkmBluesKaj: yep, selecting UK then Add Language and it's just English-US08:22
apokryphosxenol: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic08:22
xenolo08:22
xenolok08:22
drkmmurchadh_bhaba: there isn't a problem with the drivers as Gnome was fine with it.. I just have to change the keyboard over to UK somehow in KDe08:22
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drkmMurchadh: above was for you..08:22
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rag_please help me!08:22
Murchadhxenol: They're in the repositories. You must need to enable them. If you have any trouble pastebin them.08:22
xenolfrom konsole?08:23
rag_why a rt61 wifi card not works command dhclient ra0?08:23
Dr_willis!repo08:23
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:23
BluesKajxenol, google drkm, /login manager/admin mode08:23
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xenol!paste08:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:23
ryanakcad'arvit... how do I change my keyboard map in KDE without using System Settings? (That particular module is... kaput... for me)08:23
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xenolmurchadh http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37420/ here it is08:24
amitronI have a problem with my X-server. I can't quite run programs from a Gentoo machine (omega, 192.168.0.11) on my Kubuntu machine (AMITRON, 192.168.0.103). This is what I run: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37419/08:24
drkmBluesKaj: I dont' understand you there, what do you mean?08:24
BluesKajsys/setttings08:24
Dr_williserror :  http://kubuntu.org dapper/main koffice-data 1:1.6.0-0ubuntu1~dapper1  404 not found..08:25
drkmBluesKaj: still don't see what you mean, can you explain it better08:25
Dr_willisThats Weird.... with a ~ in the name.08:25
BluesKajsys/settings/advanced/login manger/admin mode/ languge bartab at the bottom08:25
Dr_willisi would almost guess the server is being updated/changed/or somthing.08:25
xenoldr_willis that symbol is problem?08:25
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Dr_willisxenol,  sounds to me like the server is having some issues.. Look and see if that dir/file is there wiht a web browser08:26
Murchadhxenol: Can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin?08:26
xenolah so it is shut off08:26
drkmBluesKaj: ah I found it now.. in the language bar it only has US English08:26
BluesKajarte you in admin mode , drkm08:27
xenol!paste08:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:27
xenolhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37421/ here murchadh08:27
drkmBluesKaj: yeah I went into admin mode.. theres only US English in the list08:27
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Murchadhdrkm: Stumped. I have like English UK, English US and Irish when I click on Add Language. And other shows up under English US. I'm of no use I'm afraid.08:28
amitronI can't run programs on a Gentoo machine (omega, 192.168.0.11) using my Kubuntu machine's X-Server (AMITRON, 192.168.0.103). This is what I run in Konsole: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37419/08:29
BluesKajwell, drkm, dunno what i can do to help .... Murchadh?08:29
xenolcan i also use debs for debian on ubuntu?08:29
drkmhmm strange one.. is there something I should download to add more languages to KDE?08:29
osh_What does this mean and how can I fix it? A link would be fine. "PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20050606/mysql.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20050606/mysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0"08:29
BluesKaj!languages08:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:30
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BluesKaj!language08:31
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:31
BluesKajhehe08:31
PhinnFort!locales08:33
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf08:33
osh_amitron: try ssh -X whateverhostname and run programs from there. what happens then?08:33
BluesKajPhinnFort to the rescue08:33
PhinnFort:P08:33
PhinnFortargh... lighttpd segfaults php, and cherokee just gives me "200" whenever i try to access a php script...08:34
amitronosh_: nope. nothing.08:34
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PhinnFortdrkm: install "kde-i18n-xx" where xx is your language, like nb, en, ja, etc.08:35
PhinnForti guess i'll have to install apache...08:35
drkmPhinnFort: ok I'll check it out08:36
BluesKajwhat is apache ?08:36
PhinnForta webserver08:36
PhinnFort*the* webserver08:36
PhinnFortdefacto for over 10 years08:36
PhinnFort:P08:36
BluesKajya gonna share yer files with us ? :)08:36
drkmon a totally different topic what should I add to sources.list for KDE?08:36
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PhinnFortBluesKaj: just need for testing on my local computer before i upload it08:37
osh_amitron: you're on the gentoo and ssh to the kubuntu. Or the other way around?08:37
PhinnFortdrkm: kubuntu thingies08:37
BluesKajit's already there drkm08:37
drkmah ok thanks08:37
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PhinnFortapache install failed...08:37
drkmPhinnFort: how am I meant to install kde-i18n-xx? apt-get?08:37
usamahashimihi everyone08:37
xenolplz can someone tell me if i can use debs for debian on kubuntu?08:37
amitronosh_: I run ssh to the Gentoo machine from the Kubuntu one08:37
PhinnFortdrkm: pick yer poison, whatever package manager you want08:38
PhinnFortxenol: in theory, yes08:38
drkmPhinnFort: well I wasn't sure because I tried it through apt-get and it can't find it ?08:38
usamahashimifrom previous some days my system is hanging and responding very slow, can anyone tell me that how can i correct this problem?08:38
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xenolso i can use krita krita-data and koffice packages?08:38
PhinnFortdrkm: apt-cache search kde-i18n08:38
drkmPhinnFort: I think I got it, used UK rather than EN08:38
PhinnFortusamahashimi: run ksysguard from under "System" under the K-Menu08:39
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PhinnFortdrkm: good, good:)08:39
osh_amitron: check that the ssh-server on gentoo is X-enabled. It's a compile-time option iirc. And have a look in the config-file too. Might be disabled there also.08:39
JohnFluxPhinnFort: you can press ctrl+esc   instead08:39
BluesKajGet:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main apache2-utils 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 [93.1kB] 08:39
BluesKajGet:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe apache-common 1.3.34-4ubuntu1 [852kB] 08:39
BluesKajGet:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe apache 1.3.34-4ubuntu108:39
PhinnFortJohnFlux: doesn't always work08:39
JohnFluxPhinnFort: yeah dunnot why08:40
drkmPhinnFort: UK = Ukrainian lol08:40
drkmI'll apt-cache08:40
PhinnFortberyl, crashed kdesktop, etc08:40
amitronosh_: When I use a different machine with Windows and Cygwin, it works.08:40
PhinnFortdrkm: :P08:40
BluesKaj!en08:40
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat08:40
usamahashimiPhinnFort: and how can i know that which process i have to close?08:40
PhinnFortusamahashimi: sort by cpu usage08:41
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osh_amitron: perhaps you're setting the wrong display then. Unset all that and try the ssh -X version.08:41
drkmPhinnFort: found it thanks.. it's gben08:41
PhinnFortusamahashimi: click on the "system" column, and see what ranks highest08:41
PhinnFortdrkm: nice08:41
Murchadhxenol: I'd comment out lines 14 down, and try a sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install koffice08:41
usamahashimiPhinnFort: it ranks highest X and it is 2.5008:42
PhinnFortusamahashimi: do you have fancy desktop effects, like beryl installed?08:42
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Murchadhxenol: Or build new sources for your region.08:42
BluesKajyup, PhinnFort , apache failed om my box too08:42
Murchadh!repositories08:42
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:42
PhinnFortBluesKaj: works now, though08:42
Murchadh!sources.list08:42
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BluesKajdpkg: error processing apache (--configure):08:43
BluesKaj subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 108:43
BluesKajErrors were encountered while processing:08:43
xenolmurchadh repositories r OK and also apt-get update shows error 404 :p so there must be smthing with server :/08:43
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PhinnFortBluesKaj: just try again08:43
PhinnFortworked second time here08:43
usamahashimiPhinnFort: no, i dont have 3d card so i turned of the translucency08:43
PhinnFortusamahashimi: how sluggish is it?08:43
amitronosh_: What do you mean exactly? Can you pastebin a list of commands for me, please?08:43
PhinnFortusamahashimi: is the mouse sluggish, or just moving windows, etc?08:44
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BluesKajok, PhinnFort , it installed08:44
PhinnFort;)08:44
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Murchadhxenol: Yeah, not sure they exist long term. Comment them out, have another go. From line 14 down to the bottom, just add #. apt-get upgrade see if those errors still occur.08:44
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dopei installed kubuntu over ubuntu and i think i broke ubuntu :(08:44
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usamahashimiPhinnFort: my system hand in intervals like it hang for 10 secs, then run fine for a minute or 2 and then hangs for 10-12 secs and this story continues08:45
usamahashimiwhile hanging mouse works but i can not click on anything also somethimes mouse hangs in its movements08:45
PhinnFortusamahashimi: what kind of programs have you installed lately?08:46
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PhinnFortsounds like something is comitting it's cache to the harddrive or something08:46
xenolmurchadh update and upgrade show same error and those repositories r OK i upgraded with em my ubuntu 2 days ago at my friend only at me i get probs :/ and btw can u tell me where i can build repos plz? any website for it?08:46
usamahashimiPhinnFort: i used to run firefox, xmms, konsole and giam simultaneously08:46
osh_amitron: unsetenv DISPLAY and all other environment variables you set before and ssh -X yourbox08:46
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PhinnFortusamahashimi: but have you installed any new apps?08:47
Murchadhxenol: There is indeed, just can't remember where. Was mentioned here a few times yesterday. I'll google it....08:47
xenolmurchadh ty08:47
usamahashimiPhinnFort: only installed some codecs and multimedia apps like mplayer, xmms, also firfox, gaim, vlc08:48
PhinnForthmm08:48
eMaX_does ssh configure somewhere through which interfaces I may connect? Apparently, I cannot connect through all my network interfaces.08:48
PhinnFortusamahashimi: can you paste the output of "ps aux"?08:48
PhinnFort!paste08:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:48
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usamahashimiPhinnFort: pastebin is not working, can you tell me any other site for pasting?08:51
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BluesKajtry www.pastebin.ca ...not as busy as the others08:51
dopecan i install beryl or compiz on kubuntu?08:52
usamahashimiPhinnFort: i dont know why its not pasting08:52
PhinnFortusamahashimi: rafb.net/paste08:52
Dr_willisdope,  yes.. - is it worth the effort... doubtfull.08:52
Hawkwind!beryl | dope08:52
ubotudope: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:52
PhinnFortsorry, i was getting meself a hot dog;)08:52
MurchadhAnyone know of a link to a site to help create a fresh sources.list?08:53
Dr_willis!easysource08:53
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".08:53
Dr_willisbut it dont have edgy support yet. :(08:53
PhinnFort!sources.list08:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:53
MurchadhMentioned here yesterday. My bad for not noting it.08:53
Dr_willisive seen some other sites taht have example sources also.08:53
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PhinnFortargh...08:53
usamahashimiPhinnFort: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Gs95o937.html08:53
xenoldr_willis in easy source i can build repos for my regions?08:53
PhinnForti'm growing tired of webserver08:53
PhinnForts08:53
dopeoh08:53
MurchadhPhinnFort: hehe I tried that too.08:54
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PhinnFort:P08:54
PhinnFortusamahashimi: any reason automatix is running?08:54
PhinnFortusamahashimi: i had a similar problem some time ago under gentoo, though08:54
PhinnFortit was arts acting up08:55
PhinnFortjust deleting it helped;)08:55
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usamahashimiPhinnFort: as firefox is hanging, i am thinking about to install swiftfox browser08:55
PhinnFortusamahashimi: give opera a try;)08:55
PhinnFortosh_: you know any reason apache would give me 404 for my images/ and everything under it?08:55
PhinnFortall other folders exist, and work just dandy08:56
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usamahashimiPhinnFort: i used opera, its very heavy, do u use swiftfox browser?08:56
PhinnFortusamahashimi: nope, i use konqueror, and opera when i need flash08:56
PhinnFort(32-bit)08:56
osh_PhinnFort: baby crying. back later08:56
drkmPhinnFort: finally got UK language installed and I've changed it over to UK, but my keyboard is still mapped for US keyboards.. have I missed something?08:56
ryanakcahow do I change my keyboard map in KDE without using System Settings? (That particular module is... kaput... for me)08:56
PhinnFortosh_: :P08:56
PhinnFortdrkm: i think it's somewhere lse08:57
PhinnFort*else08:57
usamahashimiPhinnFort: do find any thing wrong the output of ps aux08:57
drkmPhinnFort: do you know where?08:57
PhinnFortusamahashimi: nothing jumps at me, no08:57
eMaX_where can I tell kwallet not to ask for passwords?08:57
PhinnFortdrkm: look under keyboard?08:57
usamahashimiPhinnFort: lemme tell u the output of hdparm08:57
PhinnFortdrkm: it's in xorg.conf, i think08:57
drkmPhinnFort: ok thanks, I'll have a look08:58
PhinnFortnp08:58
usamahashimiPhinnFort: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5IgP0p32.html08:59
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usamahashimiPhinnFort: i also want to tell u one more thing08:59
PhinnFortok08:59
PhinnFortyour parameters seems just fine, btw08:59
matthew__Can anyone tell me how to map my WINkey to the Kmenu? I want the kmenu to pop up when I hit the Windows key.09:00
PhinnFortyou should try running top in a konsole when everything goes haywire, too09:00
PhinnFortmatthew__: why on earth do you want that?09:00
usamahashimiPhinnFort: when my sytem starts, it takes a long time at "Loading Hardware Driver...", when i checked in verbose mode, it gave an error "ide: dma timed out"09:00
matthew__PhinnFort, why not? just something to make my life easier09:00
PhinnFortusamahashimi: could you paste the output of dmesg?09:00
PhinnFortjust for kicks09:00
PhinnFortmatthew__: why not use katapult or similar09:01
usamahashimiPhinnFort: ok :)09:01
PhinnFortmakes your life even easier09:01
PhinnFort;)09:01
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matthew__PhinnFort, I don't understand...how would katapult help?09:01
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matthew__isn't katapult like "run"?09:01
PhinnFortjust alt+space (one press) and choose program09:02
PhinnFortdon't you want the kmenu to run things?09:02
Murchadhdrkm: After installing it, you should move it to the top of the list. See what happens then. (Select it, click move up) and sorry if you have already done so!09:02
Fleebailey33i am trying to dual boot kubuntu amd64 and windows. any help?09:02
Fleebailey33i cant find a tutorial09:02
Fleebailey33ive never dual booted before09:02
PhinnFortFleebailey33: don't need a tutorial09:02
matthew__PhinnFort, ooooh, I like katapult09:02
PhinnFortjust do it;)09:02
matthew__a lot09:02
PhinnFort:P09:02
matthew__thank you thank you thank you!09:02
matthew__lol09:02
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PhinnFortyw09:02
PhinnFort;)09:02
Fleebailey33PhinnFort:09:03
Fleebailey33...09:03
usamahashimiPhinnFort: http://rafb.net/paste/results/KPerGp63.html09:03
MurchadhPhinnFort: Think he wants windows functionality, winkey brings up the menu list.09:03
PhinnFortusamahashimi: thanks09:03
Fleebailey33what partitions to i need to make in linux first?09:03
usamahashimiPhinnFort: but i have to thank u as u are doing ur best to help me :)09:03
PhinnFortMurchadh: katapult supersedes that09:04
PhinnFort:P09:04
PhinnFortusamahashimi: i'm sorry we haven't progressed very far;)09:04
Fleebailey33i love katapult09:04
Fleebailey33just like quicksilver09:04
PhinnFortquicksilver is katapult eq. for mac?09:04
usamahashimiPhinnFort: np :)09:04
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Fleebailey33yup09:04
PhinnFort;)09:04
Murchadhmatthew__: I'veonly managed to get it to work as a modifier key. Win+\ makes kuake pop out of the left hand side of the screen!09:04
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Fleebailey33PhinnFort:09:05
matthew__!kuake09:05
ubotukuake: Console which looks like Quake game console. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-5 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 244 kB09:05
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matthew__ah09:05
Fleebailey33i do need help though09:05
PhinnFort!yakuake09:05
ubotuyakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB09:05
PhinnFort;)09:05
Fleebailey33i thought grub couldnt do ntfs09:05
matthew__Fleebailey33, need help w/ partitions?09:05
Fleebailey33yeah09:05
PhinnFortFleebailey33: it uses something called "chainloading"09:05
matthew__ok, what do your drives look like?09:05
PhinnFortit just hands over everything to the ntfs partition, and it takes it from there09:05
MurchadhPhinnFort: Yeah Katapult rocks. Gets kinda sluggish though, the more stuff gets installed. It works perfect here on a pretty clean install, but on my old system, it could take ages to work.09:06
PhinnFortthat's at least how i understood it09:06
dhqhow do i partition my hardisk i need a graphical tool09:06
Fleebailey33qtparted dhq09:06
PhinnFortMurchadh: i think they've optimised it quite a bit09:06
matthew__Fleebailey33, what do your drives look like?09:06
matthew__or gparted.09:06
Fleebailey33regular installed for internal on this laptop09:06
Fleebailey33swap and ext309:06
matthew__Fleebailey33, oh, you've already got linux installed?09:06
Fleebailey33yes.09:07
matthew__Fleebailey33, so, what's the prob?09:07
matthew__Fleebailey33, problem09:07
Fleebailey33i have absloutely no clue how to install media center edition on my linux box09:07
PhinnFortusamahashimi: your problem seems to be related to "VFS: busy inodes on changed media. "09:07
PhinnFortFleebailey33: so get mythtv;)09:07
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Fleebailey33i dont want the media center part09:08
PhinnFortFleebailey33: just make a partition for windows in linux, and then start the windows install09:08
usamahashimiPhinnFort: what is this and how can i correct it?09:08
Fleebailey33its just the os i have09:08
PhinnFortusamahashimi: i'm trying to find out...09:08
Fleebailey33fat32 will do?09:08
Fleebailey33how big?09:08
PhinnFortdunno09:08
matthew__Fleebailey33, if you really want to install windoze, you're going to need to use the gparted liveCD to resize your ext3 partition and make a new FAT32 partitiion09:08
PhinnFortwinblows sucks space like nothing else, though09:08
Fleebailey33i can do that09:09
matthew__Fleebailey33, once you install windoze, you're going to have to reinstall GrUB09:09
MurchadhAnyone who uses the shell needs either kuake or yakuake running. Being a bit of a twit, I have both, kuake on the left hand side and yakuake at the top. One has emacs running at all times with .conf files open, the other is for quick commands. Also check out screen if you use a shell.09:09
Fleebailey33resize09:09
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Fleebailey33gotcha09:09
Fleebailey33and grub will reconize?09:09
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matthew__Fleebailey33, yes, but you need to reinstall grub after, cause microsoft will overwrite it09:09
PhinnFortMurchadh: or just yakuake with several sessions open at a time09:09
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Fleebailey33ok09:09
Fleebailey33gotcha09:09
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Fleebailey33how big should my fat32 be you think?:09:10
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Fleebailey33percentage of hdd space09:10
Fleebailey33im think 1/409:10
usamahashimiPhinnFort: http://www.google.com.pk/search?q=VFS%3A+busy+inodes+on+changed+media&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial09:10
PhinnFortFleebailey33: depends entirely on you09:10
MurchadhPhinnFort: Yeah, I got carried away, couldn't decide which I preferred nad am now using both. ?)09:10
Fleebailey33i got 120gb on laptop plus external ext309:10
usamahashimiPhinnFort: i found this09:10
PhinnFortMurchadh: i'm the devs fanboy;)09:10
Fleebailey33sounds good?09:10
matthew__Fleebailey33, if you're doing media stuff, as big as you can. If you're just installing it for games or whatever, I would do about 10-30 Gigs...depends on size of drive09:10
PhinnFortthe yakuake dev09:11
cathalhow do I add the trash(recycle bin) to my desktop?09:11
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drkmPhinnFort: all fixed now.. you were right with setting in xorg.conf.. thanks09:11
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chxhi. I have a DVD writer (which works in a desktop) hooked up to my laptop through USB (this thing works with a HDD) if I put in a DVD, then the system recognizes, and asks what I want to do with my shiny new GitS DVD. I want to play it with Kaffeine, I got an error and dmesg says [17232183.440000]  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 147 and then this is repeated with more blocks up to 156. I tried other DVDs to the same results.09:11
matthew__cathal, click on the bar on the left side of the bin, and drag it to the desktop09:12
PhinnFortcathal: right click -> new -> link to location, type "trash:/" as the URL09:12
Fleebailey33well thanks matthew09:12
PhinnFortor what matthew__ said;)09:12
matthew__Fleebailey33, np,..gl,09:12
dopei can't get any videos to play in firefox09:13
dopewhat do i do09:13
PhinnFortusamahashimi: have you looked at http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2006-03/msg06629.html09:13
PhinnFort?09:13
francesco_hi,i'm a new linux user..somebody can help me please?09:13
PhinnFortdope: you use konqueror09:13
cathalmatthew, PhinnFort: thank u both09:13
PhinnFortheh, np;)09:13
dopewhy can't i use firefox?09:13
matthew__!anyone | francesco_09:13
ubotufrancesco_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:13
osh_PhinnFort: Still problemwith 404?09:13
Fleebailey33and it will work on amd64. the gparted live im assuming?09:13
PhinnFortosh_: yeah09:13
usamahashimiPhinnFort: leme check09:13
PhinnFortFleebailey33: yeah09:13
PhinnForttried it meself here09:13
francesco_ok..i've problems with the italian language pack...09:14
dopei like my firefox plugins :(09:14
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Fleebailey33awesome09:14
matthew__francesco_, what's the prob?09:14
PhinnFortosh_: i don't have any .htaccess there09:14
MurchadhPhinnFort: Yakuake has been on my machine for a while, one bug (which doesn't affect it's functionality) I found is with the transparency, it shows the first desktop image it opens on every time it opens. eg I open it on desktop 1, I see my desktop beneath. Switch to desktop 2, press F12, but yakuake still shows me desktop 1 in the background. I know I'm being picky, but it's the one thing kuake does better outta the box.09:14
Fleebailey33thanks PhinnFort09:14
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osh_PhinnFort: Check permissions? You use selinux? what's your basedir in apache.conf09:14
ibertjust for inspiration: where do you store your mp3's? in /home or in an extra data partition?09:14
PhinnFortMurchadh: i know, but that's a minor inconvenience09:14
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francesco_i've installed them..but my linux is already in english..09:14
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PhinnFortMurchadh: and when i use beryl, transparency just works (tm)09:15
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PhinnFort;)(09:15
PhinnFortosh_: permissions ok, no selinux, and the rest of the webpage work09:15
matthew__francesco_, have you tried restarting?09:15
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xenol!vim09:15
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code09:15
MurchadhPhinnFort: Agreed, It's not coming off my machine anyway. Must give beryl another try.09:15
PhinnFort;)09:15
PhinnFortMurchadh: what kind of gfxcard?09:15
PhinnFortFleebailey33: np;)09:15
francesco_yes..but only adept now is in italian09:16
chxis there anything I could do or should I just accept that this USB rack does not work with this DVD writer :( ?09:16
usamahashimiPhinnFort: KDED Media manager' If i turn it off, will kde auto mount my usb and cdrom?09:16
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matthew__francesco_, sorry, I don't know anything more. Sorry!09:16
PhinnFortusamahashimi: probably not, but try deactivating it, and see if the problem is still there09:16
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osh_PhinnFort: apache1 or apache2?09:17
PhinnFortapache109:17
MurchadhI have yakuake on F12 and kuake on Win+\, which is awful handy. PhinnFort a Radeon 9250 I think.09:17
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francesco_doesn't matter...thanks09:17
PhinnFortMurchadh: should work just dandy with aiglx then09:17
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BluesKaj!katapult09:17
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.09:17
PhinnForti have yakuake on f10, f12 is hard-wired in Blender09:17
usamahashimiPhinnFort: after stopping it, dmesg is still giving the same error09:17
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PhinnFortusamahashimi: are you getting new errors?09:18
PhinnFortcheck the timestamp09:18
ibertubotu: katapult starts with ALT+SPACE09:18
ubotukatapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.1.3-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 322 kB, installed size 2716 kB09:18
ibertubotu: alt+f2 is the old launcher .-)09:18
usamahashimiPhinnFort: no, same error09:18
PhinnFortusamahashimi: but are you sure there are still appearing?09:18
dopedoes kubuntu have themes?09:18
PhinnFortdope: of course09:18
PhinnFortdmesg doesn't clear the log09:19
dopewhere do i set those09:19
usamahashimiPhinnFort: yes, i checked twice09:19
PhinnFortwhen it is run09:19
PhinnFort!themes09:19
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy09:19
PhinnFort!changethemes09:19
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=309:19
PhinnFortdope09:19
PhinnFortyou're on kde09:19
francesco_mattew..now it works!!09:20
dopeyup09:20
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shadowhywindanyone know how to fix filesystem panic so that it will stop changing my fat partition to read only?09:20
usamahashimiPhinnFort: i remember that some days i ago i added a line dev.cdrom.lock=0 in /etc/sysctl.conf09:20
MurchadhPhinnFort:  I showed my friend yakuake, and he installed kubuntu on all his PCs. Now he keeps pressing F12 at work looking for a console. hehe09:21
MurchadhYakuake Killer app!09:21
PhinnFortusamahashimi: try removing it09:21
osh_PhinnFort: anything useful in the error-log?09:21
PhinnFortMurchadh: lol09:21
PhinnFortosh_: i'll look09:21
MurchadhPhinnFort: Not the ATI Radeon (fglrx) driver then?09:21
PhinnFortosh_: tried creating a new folder with the same name, didn't find it, capitalized the first letter, then i could find it09:21
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PhinnFortMurchadh: nope09:21
dopeis there a way to set a hotkey to open konsole09:22
PhinnFortosh_: seems like apache wants "images/" from /usr/share, but the rest of the queried documents from /var/www09:22
dopei found it09:22
usamahashimiPhinnFort: ok removed it but how can i make my system know that now this line is removed (without restarting)?09:23
BluesKajdope, which key is it?09:23
PhinnFortusamahashimi: i'm not sure how you do it under ubuntu...09:23
dopei set it09:23
PhinnFortusamahashimi: use "sysctl" directly09:24
PhinnFortrun "sysctl dev.cdrom.lock=0"09:24
PhinnFort"sysctl dev.cdrom.lock=1" i mean09:24
dopeyou right click on it and click edit icon and then select a hotkey for it09:24
BluesKajdope, how?09:24
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dopeit should be under the system menu09:24
dopejust right click it and select edit item09:25
usamahashimiPhinnFort: no, dmesg is still giving the same error :(09:25
PhinnFortWHY THE FSCK is /images/ aliased in the default apache config09:25
crimsoni'm trying to install some plugins and when i get to the point in the terminal where i need to use "./configure" there is a string of things such as autoconf and automake missing. Can anyone help?09:25
PhinnFortusamahashimi: then you should try to reboot09:25
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PhinnForti want to strangle a dev right now...09:25
usamahashimiPhinnFort: oh09:25
Phoenix92xexcuse me, does anyone know any good channels that I could ask some general questions about VPNs in? I've done some research and still have some questions09:25
PhinnFortusamahashimi: does it still hang?09:25
PhinnFortthe errors in dmesg could just be leftovers09:25
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usamahashimiPhinnFort: yes after a minute or two09:26
PhinnFortdarn09:26
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PhinnFortusamahashimi: sorry, i can't help you...09:26
osh_PhinnFort:   that'd put your image-dir outside of the server-root I think. could you change it to look in /var/www  (which I assumes server-root points to)?09:27
PhinnFortosh_: i know09:27
usamahashimiPhinnFort: np. thanks by the way, thanks a lot for ur efforts09:27
PhinnForti just commented out the alias09:27
PhinnFortusamahashimi: no problem09:27
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PhinnFortosh_: but why such a stupid alias just to get the default "replaceme" webpage to work?09:27
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osh_PhinnFort: dunno09:28
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PhinnFortosh_: someone should whip the dev responsible09:29
PhinnFort...09:29
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MurchadhPhinnFort: Just checked out some guys YouTube of his beryl - now I'm gonna have to install it. Looks wicked. I don't need much of that stuff, but I love showing kubuntu off!09:31
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shadowhywind!pastebin09:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:32
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PhinnFortMurchadh: nice;)09:33
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PhinnFortMurchadh: if you install it "right", you can choose when you log in if you want it or not09:33
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BluesKajMurchadh, I tried to install beryl but it won't run on my ATI card ...crashes X09:33
PhinnFortBluesKaj: what kind of card do you have?09:33
alan_?ESPAOL?09:33
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BluesKajATI xpress20009:34
PhinnFort!espanol09:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
BluesKaj!es09:34
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:34
PhinnFort!spanish09:34
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
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PhinnFort!women09:35
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.09:35
keddiehow do I change the menu bar picture or color?09:35
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tamacrackerWhat's the best program to use to extract .zip files?09:36
xenol_ark09:36
xenol_i think09:36
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PhinnFortyeah09:37
tamacrackerwoot09:37
tamacrackerok09:37
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PhinnFortalthough i think konqueror has built-in support for it too09:37
tamacrackeri was clickin the open link from the download window, and it wouldn't open, until i just double clicked the file itself.09:37
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BluesKajtamacracker, if yer gonna run zipped windows files better get wine09:38
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connhi, when I try to copy a cd via k3b, I see "Cddb error (communication error.)." - can anyone help?09:42
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tamacrackerare you hooked up to the internet?09:43
tamacrackerwhile you burn the cd?09:43
tamacrackerthat little program is what finds the track information, such as the year, album, artist, track number, track name etc..09:44
connyep, and gnome's "sound juicer" retrieves the track information every time I pop in a cd09:44
BluesKajKaudio creator09:44
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MurchadhPhinnFort: Can't find a linux-dri-modules for my kernel.09:45
PhinnFortMurchadh: ?09:45
PhinnForti just enabled stuff in xorg-conf09:45
PhinnFort.conf09:45
connBluesKaj, that's a dependency? I'll install it and try again09:45
MurchadhPhinnFort: Sorry, just running an update on adept after adding the repos. might find it now.09:45
PhinnFortok09:45
BluesKajnope conn, it's a stand alone cd rippre09:46
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deitarionThe SD Card reader built into my mother's printer isn't triggering KDE's insert notification though LinuxPrinting says everything should work. Suggestions?09:47
keddiehow can I change the default kde purple gears picture on the kde menu?09:47
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jontec__at first when I turn on my computer, I can connect to the internet connection shared by my computer... then less than two minutes later I cannot. This goes also for the shared folder that is on the network by my windows computer. In addition to this, before I was getting prompts for a username and password to my windows shared folder. Why is this and how can I fix it? Someone told me before about lower the permissions of09:47
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oslohi09:48
osloi cant hide my kicker when i go to a screen corner with beryl....09:48
oslocould u help09:48
osloits when teh scree become dark & show all apps which are launch09:48
osloed09:48
dopedoes konquer have mouse gesture support?09:49
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jontec__my other kubuntu computer can access the network, but my first one (the one I talked about out) can't.09:50
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PhinnFortdope: yes09:51
dopewhere do i add that09:51
christiane_Hello. What is the cleanest way to modprobe ndiswrapper at system start?09:52
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bLaZeDchristiane, use sudo ndiswrapper -m09:56
bLaZeDthat wll add everything to load it at boot09:56
[Relic] how do I list all installed packages09:56
Murchadh[Relic] : dpkg -l09:58
dopehow do i enable mouse gestures for konquorer09:58
Murchadh[Relic] : dpkg -l > ~/MyApplist.yyyymmdd pipes them neatly into a text file called......09:59
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[Relic] is there something that will simply put the names and no other info in?  not a major issue just wondering10:00
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Murchadh[Relic] : Hmmm.. How to strip out the second and third columns? It's possible,b I'm just not the man to tell ya how I'm afraid!10:02
[Relic] I'll cut them out later  :)10:02
[Relic] need to burn one last dvd then I need to figure out how to format a hd section10:03
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dope!themes10:05
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy10:05
PhinnFortkde-look.org10:07
drkmwhat player would you guys reccomend for mp3s?10:07
PhinnFortamarok10:07
PhinnForthands down10:07
PhinnFort;)10:07
dopePhinnFort: how do i add the mouse gesture support to konquorer10:07
PhinnFortdope: dunno:P10:07
dope:|10:07
ibertdrkm: amaraok! I fully agree...10:07
PhinnFortlook under the system settingfs10:07
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drkmibert: cool ok10:08
drkmanyone else?10:08
dopei looked on google and saw some post about how a guy would switch from firefox to konquorer if it had mouse gesture support10:08
PhinnFortdope: under "Accessiblity"10:08
PhinnFortinput actions10:08
PhinnFortthere you can assign hotkeys and gestuers10:08
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dopeis that in konquorer?10:09
PhinnFortdope: that's in KDE, and therefore also konqueror10:09
dopeoh10:10
PhinnFortkonqueror is an integral part of KDE;)10:10
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malik__are there any skins for     konqueror?10:10
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PhinnFortmalik__: wtf?10:10
PhinnFortskins?10:10
PhinnFortyou could look at the different styles10:11
BluesKajtheses guys are all about eye candy :)10:11
PhinnFort"system settings" -> "appearance"10:11
malik__yes skins .........like they have for ff and opera10:11
PhinnFortskinning is stupid10:11
PhinnFortimho10:11
[Relic] but it is personalization  :)10:11
PhinnFortapps should use the styles given to them by the almighty window manager;)10:11
pacman_anyone know if there is an IRC channel of soundkonverter support?10:11
PhinnFort[Relic] : how so?10:11
[Relic] the more comfortable you are with a system the more productive you can be  :)10:12
PhinnFort[Relic] : how is skinning relevant?10:12
BluesKaj!soundkonverter10:12
dopethese seem to be correct already but i don't know how to activate them10:12
ubotusoundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1047 kB, installed size 1980 kB10:12
BluesKaj#soundkonverter10:12
[Relic] look at how many different skins there are for some of the different programs, if you get one you like that is a more efficient layout to you then it will let you be more productive, doesn't need to make sense since it is personal choice10:13
drkmdoes anyone know how to get nick autocomplete to work in Kconversation?10:13
PhinnFort[Relic] : apps are supposed to be laid out in the most efficient way possible10:13
BluesKajproductive ?10:13
PhinnFortif it isn't, you should complain10:13
pacman_SOB banned me10:13
PhinnFortpacman_: it was empty;)10:13
pacman_oh10:14
PhinnFort[Relic] : and the layout isn't supposed to have anything to do with skinning10:14
PhinnFortread: the buttons placement in konqi and opera doesn't change with the skin10:14
[Relic] different apps they do though10:14
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[Relic] like I said though it is a personal choice of what you are the most comfortable with when using something the more manipulation you allow the more users you will have assuming the program is any good10:15
[Relic] !pastebin10:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:15
PhinnFort[Relic] : KDE is the single most configurable collection of software there is, afaik10:16
PhinnFortyou can adjust almost everything, everything if you're willing to change the sourcecode10:16
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BluesKajpacman_, have you considered gnormalize ?10:16
BluesKaj!gnormalize10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnormalize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:17
[Relic] anyone know how to format or make recognizable a disk section?10:17
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BluesKaj!GParted10:17
ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php10:17
Fleebailey33so i am installing media center edition10:17
Fleebailey33dual boot10:17
[Relic] BluesKaj, it is there but for some reason it doesn't want to mount10:18
christianebLaZeD: adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...10:18
christianebLaZeD: couldn't add module alias:  at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 720.10:18
dopehow do i use these gestures!?10:18
Fleebailey33i made a fat32 partition. hp installer said it was formatting hdd. im not sure if it was partition or whole hdd10:19
Fleebailey33it was very fasty10:19
Fleebailey33fast10:19
BluesKaj[Relic]  , it's best used as alive cd10:19
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Fleebailey33then it very quickly made a new partition10:19
[Relic] BluesKaj, the section of the disk is there but I keep getting an error when trying to mount it, it even lists as linux10:20
Fleebailey33would that be it formmating the fat32 to ntfs10:20
slow-motionhallo10:20
Fleebailey33or the whole thing?10:20
Fleebailey33dang im nervous10:21
Fleebailey33i didn't back up10:21
Fleebailey33=(10:21
bLaZeDchristiane, have u added your wireless driver with ndiswrapper?10:21
BluesKaj[Relic] , don't try to mount it ...burn it to a cd and run it , make sure you setup your boot sequence in  the BIOS to read the dcrom drive first10:21
BluesKajcdrom10:22
[Relic] I am trying to mount the section of drive that read as linux format but doesn't want to mount10:22
drkmwhen using Konverstation why does it always have a - or + at the start of what someone is saying in the channel?10:22
Fleebailey33man pmount [Relic] 10:22
Fleebailey33pmount then device name10:23
christianebLaZeD: Yes, it runs perfectly when I manually `sudo modprobe ndiswrapper`. I could write a script in /etc/rc* but I thought there must be a "cleaner" way to load modules ...10:23
Fleebailey33/dev/sde1 for example10:23
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[Relic] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,   <-  the error I get every time I try to mount it in anyway10:24
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Fleebailey33[Relic] , try pmount10:25
Fleebailey33readdddd10:25
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Fleebailey33gtg10:25
Fleebailey33brb10:25
[Relic] that's what I get with pmount10:25
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agente2012Hi10:26
osloon beryl with the scale plugin, i see my kicker... how make it not showing ???10:26
matos_SP_25anyone from Brazil?10:27
matsPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.10:27
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dopehow do i remove this kasbar?10:28
dopenm got it10:28
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PhinnFortanyone good with bash here?10:29
PhinnFortwhy won't this work: http://rafb.net/paste/results/PRIDhN39.html10:29
PhinnFort"./scale.sh: line 5: `$f': not a valid identifier"10:29
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dopemaybe it should be $110:29
matsmaybe #bash can help?10:29
keddiewhat is the best program to extract an iso image10:29
dopewhat's $f10:30
chx I have a DVD writer (which works in a desktop) hooked up to my laptop through USB (this thing works with a HDD) if I put in a DVD, then the system recognizes, and asks what I want to do with my shiny new GitS DVD. I want to play it with Kaffeine, I got an error and dmesg says [17232183.440000]  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 147 and then this is repeated with more blocks up to 156. I tried other DVDs to the same results. the USB10:30
chx- iDE device is Bus 005 Device 013: ID 04b4:6830 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. USB-2.0 IDE Adapter.10:30
matskeddie: why dont just mount it? 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 isofile mount_place'10:31
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PhinnFortnm, it works10:31
dopemy monitor is running at 50hz when it should be 6010:31
keddiemats: substitute isofile with file name?10:32
matskeddie: yes10:33
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bLaZeDchristiane, hmm ive always used ndiswrapper -m and it adds it for me...not sure what could be causing your prob.......10:36
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keddiemats: thx that works great10:37
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matskeddie: nice ;)10:37
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dopeis there a way to auto accept certain file types in konversation?10:48
MurchadhPhinnFort: Beryl up and running. Some minor hicups, but time for some more showing off. So cool. Set my six desktops back to 4 with the same wallpaper, but I just haven't started fiddling with it yet. I think it's gonna be my favourite program since screen, before that yakuake, before that K/Ubuntu. OK I'll shaddup now. Thanks for the help!10:48
PhinnForthehe;)10:49
dopePhinnFort: you know?10:50
PhinnFortdope: sorry, no10:50
PhinnFortyou can ask Sho_ if you find him10:50
dopekk i'll be on the lookout10:50
PhinnForthe is one of the Konversation programmers10:50
PhinnForthe is usually in #kde10:50
PhinnFort[22:50]  [Whois]  Sho_ is a user on channels: #akademy #akregator #cedega #creative #fink #kde #kde-usability #khtml #nvidia #nx #openusability #yakuake10:50
PhinnFortafaik10:50
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dopehe's idle10:51
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PhinnFortping him10:51
MurchadhPhinnFort: Does Sho__ work on yakuake. I'll have to pop over to one of them sites and big 'im up!10:51
matsa guy who has many interest i see :p10:51
dopecan you tile chat windows in konversation?10:51
PhinnFortMurchadh: :P10:51
PhinnForthe is your average kde coder10:52
PhinnForthalf a dozen apps under his west10:52
PhinnFort:P10:52
jjleeAdept Notifier seems to ignore hold and forbid-version -- can anybody explain why??10:52
PhinnFortjjlee: the adept devs, prolly10:52
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jjleeI guess I'm mildly surprised anybody is able to use it given this10:53
firebird619Where is KDE installed to when installed via the kubuntu-desktop package? I am trying to install KDEnlive and it asks for where KDE is installed.10:54
jjleeI just did a search for "artsd crashes", and artsd immediately crashed :-010:54
jjleeI think it's smarter than it looks :-)10:55
cloakable:P10:55
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OOD!mp310:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:59
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jjleeAnybody know of any tips / howtos on stripping down [k] ubuntu to remove some of the fancier stuff (automounting, file monitoring, that kind of stuff)?10:59
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jjleeI suppose I'm looking for a checklist of "stuff lots of people happily do without"11:00
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jjleeotherwise I guess I'll just work my way through ps -ax...11:00
killeroyperhaps try the server install11:01
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[Relic] can't figure out how to get this drive section working  :(11:01
PhinnFortbash is getting on my nerves...11:01
killeroyand then add what you want11:01
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killeroynot sure how well that would work though11:01
jjleekilleroy: I don't want to reinstall, just remove some cruft from my installed desktop system11:01
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jjleeI guess the first thing is to figure out how to ask what packages I have installed...11:02
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MurchadhPhinnFort: Are you limited to the same desktop pic with beryl?11:03
PhinnFortMurchadh: haven't tried switching11:03
Black5un!java11:03
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:03
dopewhen i hit print screen i don't think anything happens11:04
MurchadhPhinnFort: Ah. Just had a quick look, and only see desktop 1 showing up in the usual place where you change them.11:04
jjleeOMG, I have 24000 packages on this thing!  Where to begin...11:04
BioVorEgrep might be something to start with.. :-P11:05
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MurchadhPhinnFort: When X starts, I see my 6 desktops as they were, until beryl starts, and then I'm back to 1. Bears further investigation. Still, it's cool.11:05
jjleeBioVorE: hmm11:05
jjleeeven scrolling through the list takes 30 seconds :-(((11:06
BioVorEdpkg -l | grep <string>11:06
chimaerahi. i just set up gnupg for kmail, i can send encrypted, but on receiving it can't get decrypted:11:06
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chimaeraError: Bad passphrase11:06
chimaeraactually, i'm not asked for the phrase on receiving.11:06
jjleecan all things things really be installed I wonder, or is apt-cache pkgnames showing all packages *known* to the system rather than *on* the system?11:07
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dopeyou can't send files with kopete?11:08
BioVorEapt-cache list whats avalible in the repos.. not whats installed11:08
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BluesKajso i have direct rendering installed ok, cuz the fgl_glxgears test works very fine ...I was led to beleive that with the right ATI open source drivers now installed that i could run beryl or other eye candy desktop GUIs ...is this true ?11:08
jjleeBioVorE: OK, that makes more sense :-)11:09
BioVorEberyl + ati = dosn't work (I think)11:09
Jucatoanyone here familiar with compiling KDE apps to other directories other than /usr/ or /usr/local/ ??11:09
MurchadhBioVorE: Works here (for the last 20 minutes).11:09
dopewhat's the kde equivelant to gksudo11:10
Jucatodope: kdesu11:10
BioVorEthat with ATI drivers or opensource ones?11:10
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MurchadhBioVorE: ATI Radeon 9250 (A kinda budgety card in it's day).11:10
BluesKaj I'm asking in case some of the knowledgeable ppl here know the problem, but i think you may be right, BioVorE11:10
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jjleeThe man page says apt-cache pkgnames shows all packages "in the system".  That's rather misleading, at least in the absence of an introductory para that also fails to explains what "APT's package cache" is11:11
BioVorEah older ATI.. gotcha..  The newer cards don't though.. X1400 I know for a fact dosn't11:11
jjleeerm, in the absence of an intro para that *does* explain what... I mean11:11
BluesKajBioVorE, it's open source version of the fglrx driver11:11
BioVorEwhat ATI card?11:11
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BluesKajxpress20011:12
BluesKajonboard11:12
BioVorEdon't know about that one..11:12
jjleeOnly 1216 packages to schlep through, then...11:12
BioVorEI use NVidia stuff here..11:12
BluesKajit's listed as 3d capable11:12
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BluesKajwell, bully for you ... it doesn't help me :)11:13
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BioVorEx200.. I tihnk thats an older ATI card11:13
BioVorEI know some of the newer stuff like x1400 don't11:13
BluesKajless than 1 yr old11:13
BioVorEbut the good news is that I hear the AMD is looking in to opensourcing the ATI drivers on linux..11:14
BioVorEIf that happens then ATI stuff will start to work very well11:14
BluesKajcan only hope11:14
drkmwhich pdf viewer should I use between KGhostView or KPDF?11:14
BluesKajcertainly AMD seems more linux friendly than intel11:15
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BioVorEintel stuff is farily open..11:15
Alarmhello. sometimes when i try to run some applications. they do run , but in console i see the following errors : X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16611:16
Alarm  Major opcode:  14411:16
Alarm  Minor opcode:  311:16
BioVorEthere wifi stuff works great in linux.. and the opensourced there graphics driver for i81011:16
Alarmis that something major ?11:16
BioVorEjust ignore it.. everyone get it..11:16
BioVorEIts something to do with Xorg 7.xxx11:16
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Alarmohh cool ehehe11:17
Alarma question. i was trying to ran a java application it was telling me that it couldnt find java , although it was installed. so i copied the java directory in /usr/java and worked pretty well. will i have now any other problem with other applciations that will need to run java as i moved it from my home dir (where i normaly installed it) to /usr/java  ? got what i did ? :)11:18
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BioVorE!java11:19
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:19
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Alarm:)11:19
jjleeAnybody else see the panel frequently crashing with dapper? Right now I don't have a panel, it just vanished without even a puff of smoke (though half an hour ago I got two dialogs telling me kpanel crashed)11:22
BioVorEBluesKaj: Looks like the x200 + XGL/Beryl is busted in Edgy....11:22
BluesKajok , how did you find this out , BioVorE ?11:23
BioVorEforums11:23
BluesKajok11:23
Jucatoanybody here knows where to properly set KDEDIRS in Kubuntu Edgy?11:24
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ArrAKeeNre11:25
alexicondoes anyone here know if ubuntu's wifi actually works?11:29
alexiconcos kubuntu edgy wifi is retarded and wont connect to anything11:29
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alexiconmeh everything is busted in edgy11:30
alexiconthis is getting annoying11:30
BioVorEalexicon: wifi works here11:30
alexiconthree operating systems on this machine and not one of them does everything i need11:30
alexiconmeh11:30
alexiconmy wifi wont connect in kubuntu11:30
alexicondhcp errors11:30
BioVorEwhat wifi card you got?11:30
alexiconand manually running dhclient isnt fixing it11:30
alexiconintel11:31
alexiconlaptop11:31
alexiconit worked with dapper11:31
BioVorEwhat laptop?11:31
alexiconworks fine in suse11:31
alexiconsony vaio sz11:31
cloakablealexicon: There's always LFS if you want everything you want :P11:31
BioVorEthat a intell 1345 or 2200?11:31
alexiconi got it working once in edgy configuring it through kcontrol11:31
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alexiconbut then it never worked again11:31
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alexiconand never connected with wlanassistant11:31
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prowerHello :> I've enabled translucency and shadows in KDE, but they aren't showing up...is there something else that I need to configure, like in xorg.conf?11:32
BioVorEalexicon: apt-get install knetworkmanager11:32
alexiconyeah11:32
alexiconthat program is worst of all11:32
alexiconi cant even select a network with that proggy11:32
alexiconi used to love it11:32
BioVorEprower: in simple yes..11:32
BioVorEworks great with my wifi card here on edgy11:32
BioVorEI have a intell 3945ABG, works once you set it up correctly11:34
BioVorE!394511:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3945 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:35
BioVorE!wifi11:35
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:35
Black5un!XDMCP11:35
ubotuxdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it11:35
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alexiconwheres the fastest place to download ubuntu from11:42
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billytwowillyso who is the smart guy that set amarok to only show /media and /home to choose to find the media collection and how do I fix it so it will show atleast /mnt as well?11:45
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dopeso no file transfer in konversation11:45
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Jucato!hidden | billytwowilly11:46
ubotubillytwowilly: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles11:46
Jucatodope: DCC?11:46
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dopeerr11:47
dopei mean kopete11:47
dopeall these k at the beginning of names reminds me of something i read about the kkk11:48
billytwowillyJucato: thanks. I'm happy they are removing that rather silly "upgrade" in feisty.11:49
billytwowillywhile we're on the topic of directories, can someone point me to the thread outlining why they chose to put a /media in  root in the first place? that's what /mnt is for..11:51
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=== cloakable didn't even notice the hidden files o.o
dopekubuntu seems a lot prettier than ubuntu11:53
cloakableI generally navigate system directories in the terminal :P11:53
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alexiconkubuntu is sucking my nonexistant balls right now11:55
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hujciwdupewhat do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???11:55
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christianeI installed xorg-driver-fglrx. `fglrxinfo` tells me something about "mesa3d.org", not "ATI Corp.". Is that right?12:00
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rafalhello12:02
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drkmwhen you open an application it goes in the taskbar.. is there anyway I can make the taskbar application bits longer?12:03
lolwelcome for everyone12:04
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hujciwdupewhat do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???12:06
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wimpiescrimsun_ : are you available ?12:07
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drkmare there any alternatives to Konqueror to browse files?12:07
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wimpiesdrkm : konsole ?12:08
drkmwim: alternative gui12:09
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wimpiesno ... check perhaps in www.kde.org12:10
hujciwdupewhat do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???12:11
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wimpieshujciwdupe : why you think it does not work ?12:12
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dopei don't like that kdewallet holds my passwords in plain text12:13
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