[12:23] <diego> thegatekeeper, how long have you been using ubuntu for?
[12:23] <hujciwdupe> omg wireless blows in kubuntu, what a worthless crap
[12:23] <matthew> hujciwdupe, actually, it works quite well for me.
[12:23] <crimsun_> I know, we should all use whatever OS hujciwdupe wrote!!one
[12:24] <matthew> I'm using a ralink something or other...kinda sketchy under dapper, but rock-solid under edgy
[12:24] <hujciwdupe> crimsun_,and what os is that
[12:24] <matthew> hujciwdupe, crimsun_ is making a point
[12:25] <hujciwdupe> i dont see the point
[12:25] <gan|y|med> hi
[12:25] <matthew> hujciwdupe, crimsun_ is saying "If you're not happy with it, then fix it. But don't complain about it.
[12:26] <gan|y|med> got a problem with superkaramba
[12:26] <matthew> basically, do something constructive
[12:26] <hujciwdupe> yeah, i am , im installing windows right now
[12:27] <crimsun_> that's brilliant, but I don't think we really care about Windows here.
[12:27] <gan|y|med> had it installed, worked fine. installed themes (particularly wikipedia search). then superkaramba crashed. since then i can install scripts, just not some (like wikipedia) that were installed before. reinstall and removal didn't work either
[12:27] <Chousuke> hujciwdupe: Don't blame your incompetence on the OS :)
[12:27] <gan|y|med> any ideas?
[12:27] <hujciwdupe> not my fault it doesnt work
[12:27] <TheGateKeeper> diego, for about a year now, I actually dual boot & most of the time use gentoo
[12:28] <diego> can't help sorry, i'm struggling on installing firrefox and amsn
[12:28] <diego> i see, is gentoo better?
[12:28] <Koshtan> hi yaall
[12:28] <OkinawaInstructo> i run duel o/s on one computer (windows and Kubuntu) i loaded windows and lost access to linux, how can i fix it so when i turn on the computer i get the choice of which o/s i want?
[12:28] <matthew> hujciwdupe, but you could either find a card that works automatically under kubuntu, or you can do a little bit of work to get wifi working.
[12:28] <gan|y|med> use a live cd and grub it
[12:29] <vge> never mix jelly to butter
[12:29] <matthew> OkinawaInstructo, you need to reinstall GrUB
[12:29] <Xubuntian> guys
[12:29] <Xubuntian> i am surprised
[12:29] <Xubuntian> look here
[12:29] <matthew> OkinawaInstructo, give me a sec, I'll get you a link.
[12:29] <Xubuntian> http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130058247670&fromMakeTrack=true
[12:29] <Xubuntian> sorry :)
[12:29] <Xubuntian> wrong link
[12:29] <matthew> lol
[12:29] <Xubuntian> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE1XQyT_IbA
[12:29] <Xubuntian> this one
[12:29] <OkinawaInstructo> Xubuntian: thank you
[12:29] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun_, DaSkreech  which bright spark emasculated the wiki? There used to be loads of usefull stuff which all seem to have diappeared, can't even find the howto install firefox 2 on dapper
[12:30] <DaSkreech> Dink: Hiya
[12:30] <TheGateKeeper> disappeared*
[12:30] <gan|y|med> hey guys, nothing about superkaramba??
[12:30] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: Well if it was a bright enough spark I would blame the wicki
[12:30] <hujciwdupe> matthew, my card is detected fine
[12:30] <diego> i cant even install flash player :(
[12:31] <matthew> hujciwdupe, do you have dhcp enabled?
[12:31] <matthew> OkinawaInstructo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:31] <TheGateKeeper> diego, http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes  <-- lots of usefull stuff there
[12:31] <hujciwdupe> matthew, yup
[12:32] <diego> thegatekeeper, thank you ill try it
[12:32] <matthew> hujciwdupe, do you have eth0 enabled? (eth0 is the ethernet link)
[12:32] <TheGateKeeper> diego, gentoo is basically building linux from scratch, but once you have done it, it's very easy to keep up to date
[12:32] <hujciwdupe> matthew,disabled
[12:32] <matthew> hujciwdupe, are you using wlassistant to try to connect to your network?
[12:33] <diego> so you've got to do it by yourself?
[12:33] <diego> the whole os thing*
[12:33] <hujciwdupe> matthew, yup . i already hate that app
[12:33] <Xubuntian> diego: sei tu?
[12:33] <Xubuntian> diego: sono taglia
[12:33] <matthew> hujciwdupe, I know what you mean
[12:33] <vge> what's the easiest way to make a "back up disket"? that i could run to gain access to disks?
[12:33] <matthew> hujciwdupe, try using a static IP address.
[12:34] <matthew> hujciwdupe, what's the IP of your network? Probably something like 192.168.1.*
[12:34] <eilker> how can i have whole man pages ? not only from console, pdf prefable :)
[12:34] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i did , the problem is the encryprion key
[12:34] <TheGateKeeper> diego, yep
[12:34] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ah...wep or wpa?
[12:34] <diego> xubuntian, is that italian? :s i do spanish and a little portuguese and a little french
[12:35] <hujciwdupe> matthew,wep
[12:35] <TheGateKeeper> diego, have a look at the url in the pm, if you want to talk more we can talk there
[12:35] <diego> thegatekeeper, i tried downloading to install it but couldn't be bothered to install it yet, i can't talk there
[12:35] <matthew> hujciwdupe, in network settings, did you tell it that ra0 is a wep-encrypted link? There should be a field to fill in...
[12:36] <matthew> with the code.
[12:36] <hujciwdupe> matthew, nope havent seen any setting like that ,
[12:36] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok...here we go!
[12:36] <ubuntu> hi someone plz
[12:37] <ubuntu> if i want to install kubuntu
[12:37] <matthew> hujciwdupe, go into network settings and click the administrator button
[12:37] <ubuntu> do i need /usr partiotion?
[12:37] <matthew> hujciwdupe, type in the password
[12:37] <hujciwdupe> matthew,  ive been there many times , there is no option like that
[12:37] <fnord5> !cron
[12:37] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[12:37] <matthew> hujciwdupe, at the bottom, you may need to scroll down.
[12:38] <matthew> hujciwdupe, if you still can't find it, try sudo kcontrol
[12:38] <fnord5> do i need cron for anything?
[12:38] <matthew> in a terminal, of course
[12:38] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i know where the admin is , but no option to choose wep or wpa or whatever
[12:38] <matthew> hujciwdupe, you need to select ra0 in the list, then click "Configure" down below
[12:39] <matthew> hujciwdupe, actually "Configure Interface" button
[12:39] <hujciwdupe> matthew, when i click that it only lets me put in the network name and the key, and the ip configs
[12:39] <matthew> ok, h/o
[12:41] <fnord5> is ok to disable cron or rsync?
[12:41] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok...I'm not on a box w/ wireless right now...so...ok, try going into wlassistant and right-clicking the network name and "forget settings"
[12:41] <hujciwdupe> matthew, and
[12:41] <digitalfreedom> any one here good with nessus?
[12:42] <ninHer> hi all
[12:42] <matthew> hujciwdupe, try letting me know when you have done what I asked...it speeds up the process. I'm not trying to be rude, honest.
[12:42] <matthew> hujciwdupe, then click on the network name and select automatic, then it should ask for a network key...
[12:43] <hujciwdupe> matthew,just tell me the whole thing , i have to go down to the besement , thats where that pc is
[12:43] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok...I think that's it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
[12:44] <hujciwdupe> matthew, ok , what do i do after clearing the settings?
[12:45] <matthew> hujciwdupe, then click on the network name and select automatic, then it should ask for a network key...
[12:46] <hujciwdupe> matthew, ok , which format is the network key supose to be in?
[12:46] <eilker> !lightscribe
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <matthew> hujciwdupe, if your passcode is just a word or something, then its ascii
[12:47] <blue> hi guys, im trying to share the internet connection on my ubuntu box to another pc. the other pc can obtain an ip address from my ubuntu box, the other pc cannot browse the web
[12:48] <hujciwdupe> matthew, yeh i tried all that many times , but im gonna go do it again , where do i specify to use wep , can it even use wpa?
[12:48] <fnord5> what the command lineterm to display all running processes?
[12:48] <fnord5> also ktorrent keeps crashing every tim i start it,any help???
[12:49] <ibert> in which packet can I find "mail" for the command line?
[12:49] <bgsteffens> i bought a brand new drive, put it into my main kubuntu machine, formatted and created an ext3 partition, copied over a couple hundred gb of data, then moved it to my server (xubuntu) and xubuntu sees the partition filesystem as 'unknown'
[12:49] <bgsteffens> any ideas?
[12:50] <fnord5> come on i know someone here know the answere to at least one of my questions!!
[12:51] <hujciwdupe> fnord5, u can use the ksystemguard to view processes
[12:51] <hujciwdupe> fnord5, or ksysguard or something like that
[12:52] <JohnFlux> fnord5: press ctrl+esc
[12:52] <JohnFlux> fnord5: on the command line you can use  top or ps
[12:53] <BluesKaj> ktorrent has a new version that is stable
[12:53] <BluesKaj> !ktorrent
[12:53] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[12:53] <bgsteffens> nobody has any ideas what could be wrong with my drive?
[12:53] <JohnFlux> hujciwdupe: search for my masquerading made simple howto on google
[12:54] <JohnFlux> hujciwdupe:  first hit ;-)
[12:55] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok, I'm back. Sorry I was away...I'm at work. ok, how did that work? were you able to connect using the passcode? Remember, plain text is ascii, and stuff like "0cFF87DE" is Hex.
[12:57] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i havent tried yet , im gonna go do it right now,  i dont see the option to choose wep or wpa ,
[12:59] <hujciwdupe> matthew, other problem is that the wireass app wont show any netwoks untill i specify the name of the network , even tho its broadcasted
[01:00] <BluesKaj> don't choose wep, wpa is much more secure
[01:05] <matthew> hujciwdupe, try clicking "Refresh"...
[01:05] <eilker> could anyone paste pls from his fstab // /dev/fd0> /media/fd0  users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0  // i have this sth wrong with it, dapper drake here
[01:06] <eilker> i have problem with fd0
[01:06] <eilker> kate /etc/fstab
[01:07] <xherr4> hello
[01:07] <eilker> hi
[01:07] <BluesKaj> sudo kate /etc/fstab
[01:08] <eilker> blueskaj: kdesu kate /etc/fstab will be better
[01:08] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:08] <eilker> blueskaj: anyway could you tell me that line from your fstab pls
[01:08] <eilker> the line with fd0
[01:09] <BluesKaj> hang on
[01:09] <wimpies> hi all, any openoffice 2.1 packages for edgy >
[01:11] <matthew> hujciwdupe, try clicking "Refresh" within the wlassistant program.
[01:13] <BluesKaj> eilker, no line with fd0
[01:13] <eilker> blueskaj: so u dont have floopy ?
[01:14] <hujciwdupe> matthew, yeah , im fuckin pissed, this thing doesnt even want to list my network anymore , not to mention other networks that are around my house
[01:14] <BluesKaj> nope
[01:14] <eilker> blueskaj: i see ,thanx..
[01:14] <digitalfreedom> nessus anyone?
[01:14] <eilker> digitalfreedom:  i had it
[01:15] <digitalfreedom> i need some hlp
[01:15] <eilker> let me try if i can
[01:15] <BluesKaj> was an oversight when i ordered my pc ...I have 2 floppy drives sitting here on the shelf but I haven't bothered installing
[01:15] <digitalfreedom> ok when im not getting a faild login to nessud im an ssl error
[01:15] <matthew> !language
[01:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:16] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok, why don't you go ahead and type in the name of the wireless network in the configuration portion.
[01:16] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i did, now it doesnt show it either,  it shows it whenever it wants to
[01:17] <crimson> can anyone talk me through a couple small things?
[01:17] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i know the signal quality is good , so thats not the problem
[01:18] <matthew> hujciwdupe, hmm, in the network settings -> configure interface, is the box for "Activate on startup" checked?
[01:18] <Alter-Ego> crimson, don't ask, just ask
[01:18] <matthew> !anyone | crimson
[01:18] <ubotu> crimson: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:18] <hujciwdupe> matthew,yes
[01:18] <matthew> hujciwdupe, hmmm, I'm all out of ideas. Try kubuntuforums.net
[01:19] <hujciwdupe> matthew, olrighty , thank you
[01:19] <crimson> i'm attempting to install a plugin and i'm having a hard time understanding the way the cd command is used.
[01:20] <crimson> and also how to find and convey the location of the package's source code through the cd command
[01:20] <Alter-Ego> change directory ?
[01:20] <crimson> yeah
[01:20] <Alter-Ego> cd /
[01:20] <Alter-Ego> cd ~
[01:20] <Alter-Ego> cd /home/crimson
[01:21] <Alter-Ego> pwd - present working directory
[01:21] <Alter-Ego> ls - listing of directory contents
[01:21] <crimson> it says that no directory exists when i do the syntax to the package folder
[01:22] <Alter-Ego> r u in konsole ?
[01:22] <Alter-Ego> i assume
[01:22] <crimson> yeah
[01:22] <digitalfreedom> go to the place where you want to install the pkg then run it
[01:22] <Alter-Ego> where is it supposed to be ?
[01:22] <matthew> hujciwdupe, no prob
[01:23] <crimson> i don't know where i want it installed
[01:23] <crimson> wherever is default
[01:23] <crimson> i just want it installed
[01:23] <Alter-Ego> r u using adept ?
[01:23] <digitalfreedom> whats the pkg?
[01:23] <crimson> yeah
[01:23] <Alter-Ego> or is the package in adept
[01:23] <crimson> its the xine plugin
[01:23] <crimson> it isn't an adept package
[01:23] <digitalfreedom> oh well just let adept do the work
[01:23] <digitalfreedom> oh
[01:23] <Alter-Ego> yes
[01:24] <digitalfreedom> but yo ucan find the xine pkg on adept
[01:24] <Alter-Ego> what plugin in xine is it ?
[01:24] <crimson> its the d5d
[01:24] <crimson> video support
[01:24] <binary2k2> crimson: what was the file you downloaded?
[01:25] <crimson> its xine-d5d-0.2.7.
[01:25] <crimson> its was compressed, now it is a folder by that name
[01:25] <Alter-Ego> ah, i understand now
[01:25] <binary2k2> crimson: did it have .tar.gz as the extention?
[01:25] <crimson> yeah
[01:25] <binary2k2> crimson: have you unpacked it yet?
[01:25] <digitalfreedom> ./configure time
[01:25] <Alter-Ego> i suspect that now that it is in a folder your wanting to move it to the xine plugin folder ?
[01:26] <crimson> yeah
[01:26] <DaSkreech> I like kaffiene now :)
[01:26] <binary2k2> crimson: if you type ls "xine-d5d-0.2.7" do you see a listing?
[01:26] <crimson> type it in konsole?
[01:27] <binary2k2> yeah
[01:27] <digitalfreedom> yes konsole is kin crimson
[01:27] <digitalfreedom> king*
[01:27] <crimson> it just says command not found
[01:27] <crimson> whoops
[01:27] <crimson> typo
[01:27] <binary2k2> the command is: ls xine-d5d-0.2.7
[01:28] <crimson> no such file or dir
[01:28] <binary2k2> ok
[01:28] <digitalfreedom> try whereis xine
[01:28] <binary2k2> type: ls xine-<TAB>
[01:28] <binary2k2> where <TAB>
[01:28] <binary2k2> is the actual tab key
[01:28] <crimson> just makes a beep noise
[01:29] <binary2k2> try pressing it twice in quick succession
[01:29] <crimson> whereis xine worked
[01:29] <Alter-Ego>  /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.2
[01:30] <digitalfreedom> bravo now just unpack/compile yer plugin there
[01:30] <digitalfreedom> or mv the folder
[01:30] <crimson> whats the syntax for unpacking it there?
[01:31] <binary2k2> cd to /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.2
[01:31] <binary2k2> then run: sudo tar xzf ~/xine-d5d-0.2.7.tar.gz
[01:31] <crimson> it says no such file or directory
[01:32] <binary2k2> if the file is saved in your home dir
[01:32] <crimson> gotcha
[01:33] <digitalfreedom> or to save typing all that add an * after xine
[01:33] <digitalfreedom> its a wild card char
[01:33] <digitalfreedom> very handy
[01:33] <digitalfreedom> for saving keystrokes
[01:33] <crimson> going to far
[01:33] <crimson> i still cant cd to the dir
 works as well
[01:33] <crimson> it says it doesnt exist
[01:33] <Alter-Ego> mv .hidden .hidden.old
[01:34] <binary2k2> crimson: is it a .tar.gz or some other type? eg .tgz
[01:34] <crimson> tar.gz
[01:34] <digitalfreedom> do i have to install fork? like i had to to do finger and whois?
[01:34] <crimson> er, i mean .tgz
[01:35] <binary2k2> then replace tar.gz with tgz in the tar command
[01:35] <crimson> i haven't used a tar command
[01:35] <Alter-Ego> crimson, can you cd to that directory ?
[01:35] <crimson> no
[01:35] <binary2k2> that's how you extract the archive
[01:35] <digitalfreedom> gunzip is handy as well
[01:36] <Alter-Ego> can you cd past your home directory ?
[01:36] <digitalfreedom> i cant fork nothing
[01:36] <digitalfreedom> :(
[01:36] <Alter-Ego> for example, cd ~ and then cd ../
[01:37] <crimson> okay
[01:37] <Alter-Ego> can you get to the root directory ?
[01:38] <crimson> ?
[01:38] <Alter-Ego> so when you do an ls, you see /bin, /boot, etc.
[01:38] <Alter-Ego> if you do a pwd, where does it show you at ?
[01:38] <crimson> home
[01:38] <binary2k2> crimson: what do you get if you run: ls -ld /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.2
[01:39] <crimson> no file or directory
[01:39] <Alter-Ego> binary2k2 i think his problem is the .hidden file in edgy that is hiding the directory structure
[01:39] <binary2k2> Alter-Ego: it doesn't effect terminals tho
[01:40] <binary2k2> crimson: what's the out put of: ls /usr/lib/xine/plugins/
[01:40] <Alter-Ego> oh
[01:40] <crimson> nothing
[01:41] <binary2k2> Alter-Ego: I haven't bothered to change the /.hidden yet, and I can still see everything in / with ls, just not with konq
[01:41] <Alter-Ego> oh
[01:41] <binary2k2> crimson: you may have to make the directory first then
[01:42] <crimson> just make it with that exact name, and then move the .tgz file there, and extract it?
[01:43] <binary2k2> yeah
[01:43] <binary2k2> cd /usr/lib/xine/plugins/
[01:43] <goodthing> can anyone try and help me with adding a hard disk? I have tried to documentate my previous steps here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37268/
[01:43] <binary2k2> sudo mkdir 1.1.2
[01:44] <crimson> thanks for the help
[01:44] <binary2k2> :)
[01:44] <crimson> ill check in later when i do it
[01:44] <crimson> gotta go for now
[01:44] <binary2k2> lucky I can't sleep ay :p
[01:44] <bgsteffens> question - when cfdisk shows an FS Type of 'Linux' instead of 'Linux ext3' - what do i put as the type when mounting it?
[01:46] <binary2k2> bgsteffens: what did you format it as?
[01:47] <bgsteffens> i thought ext3 but it won't mount as that
[01:48] <DaSkreech> Anyone uses xpenguins?
[01:48] <binary2k2> have you tried just: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" and see if it will work that way? (replace hda1 with the real partition tho)
[01:48] <goodthing> DaSkreech:  never heard of it
[01:48] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, what are xpenguins?
[01:48] <DaSkreech> check adept
[01:49] <goodthing> anyone reading my stupid story?
[01:49] <binary2k2> Description: little penguins walk on your windows
[01:49] <DaSkreech> I installed it about three weeks ago still can't get it to work
[01:49] <BluesKaj> awwc c'mon you can tell us
[01:49] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[01:49] <bgsteffens> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:49] <DaSkreech> goodthing: What story?
[01:49] <goodthing> the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37268/
[01:49] <BluesKaj> !xpenguins
[01:49] <ubotu> xpenguins: little penguins walk on your windows. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2-4 (edgy), package size 218 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[01:49] <goodthing> about my hard disk adventure
[01:49] <bgsteffens> neither ext2 nor ext3 works, they return 'wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock, missing codepage, or other error'
[01:49] <binary2k2> bgsteffens: how did you format it?
[01:50] <bgsteffens> well i used cfdisk to create the partition
[01:50] <DaSkreech> goodthing: TIA?
[01:50] <bgsteffens> i couldn't find ext3 so i just did linux
[01:50] <bgsteffens> but it mounted on the computer i was doing it on
[01:50] <matthew> bgsteffens, if you don't care about the data, try sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/device_name
[01:50] <bgsteffens> it's 200+ gb of all my data >_<
[01:51] <matthew> oh.
[01:51] <matthew> lol
[01:51] <bgsteffens> lol that's why i haven't just done that ;P
[01:52] <matthew> bgsteffens, oh, ok
[01:52] <BluesKaj> bgsteffens, I recommend GParted Live CD for setting up resizing , moving partitions for Linx and Windows
[01:52] <BluesKaj> linux of course
[01:52] <DaSkreech> goodthing: *poke*
[01:53] <bgsteffens> ok
[01:53] <bgsteffens> so no ideas on how to check a filesystem type as it relates to mount command?
[01:54] <matthew> bgsteffens, I'm not sure this would work, but try fsck
[01:54] <matthew> sudo, of course
[01:54] <matthew> sudo fsck /dev/device name
[01:54] <bgsteffens> won't mess up data?
[01:54] <matthew> only if it's mounted
[01:54] <binary2k2> bgsteffens: umm, if you do something like "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=testfile bs=1024 count=4" then "file testfile" you may get a hint to the filesystem
[01:55] <binary2k2> I did that for my hda1 and got: testfile: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data
[01:55] <matthew> fsck might output what type of fs it is.
[01:55] <bgsteffens> administrator@server:/media/longterm$ sudo fsck /dev/hda1
[01:55] <bgsteffens> fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
[01:55] <bgsteffens> e2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
[01:55] <bgsteffens> Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...
[01:56] <bgsteffens> fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda1
[01:56] <bgsteffens> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[01:56] <bgsteffens> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[01:56] <bgsteffens> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[01:56] <bgsteffens> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[01:56] <bgsteffens>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[01:56] <bgsteffens> sorry >_< lol
[01:56] <DaSkreech> So no one has gotten xpenguins to work?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Man so much stuff needs updating in the repos :(
[01:56] <matthew> bgsteffens, ok, have you tried binary2k2's solution?
[01:56] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: hmm?
[01:57] <goodthing> DaSkreech: sorry, i was out for toilet and tea. TIA= thanks in advance
[01:57] <bgsteffens> file testfile returns: 'testfile: data'
[01:57] <DaSkreech> HA ha
[01:57] <esaym> anyone good with xorg and ati
[01:57] <esaym> ?
[01:57] <esaym> i have a res in the xorg.conf that i cant use but i could use in windows
[01:57] <esaym> 1400x1050 @76
[01:58] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: to run xpenguins, you need to configure the desktop and allow programs to access the background
[01:58] <esaym> right now no matter what i do i cant get anything higher then 1280x1024
[01:58] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: How?
[01:58] <esaym> has anyone seen this problem before? i cant find any info
[01:58] <esaym> 9700 pro btw
[01:58] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: right click on the desktop, configure desktop
[01:58] <BluesKaj> esaym, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head
[01:58] <LjL> esaym: you might have sync rates in your xorg.conf that are too low, and xorg refuses to use that resolution
[01:58] <LjL> esaym: if you have your monitor's specs (should be in the user manual), you can put them into xorg conf
[01:59] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: Behaviour tab
[01:59] <esaym> fglrx is installed
[01:59] <esaym> i have the h and v specs in the xorg.comfig
[01:59] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: then allow programs access to background or something
[01:59] <LjL> esaym: otherwise what i'd advice is a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and when it asks you to choose refresh rates, select the "intermediate" (or whatever it's called - but not the "basic" or "advanced") setting, and tell it 1400x1050 @ some Hz that you know your monitor can take
[01:59] <kamui_> i've been having a problem with my usb, it seems that devices plugged in are running at 1.1 speeds.   Is there a way to check what driver my usb host hardware is being controlled by?  I think if memory serves me it should be ehci for usb 2.0
[02:00] <BluesKaj> esaym, the open source driver might accomodate yer high expectations for resolution
[02:00] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: Right. And that doesn't work But at least I have path now
[02:00] <esaym> let me try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again
[02:01] <esaym> brb
[02:03] <goodthing> damn, i might have spend 400 euro for a hard disk and a hard disk silencer for nothing. iSuck (tm)
[02:06] <DaSkreech> goodthing: It comes up in the BIOS right?
[02:07] <goodthing> yeah, prefectly
[02:07] <goodthing> *perfectly
[02:07] <goodthing> looking at the live-cd the /dev/sd* locations just get switched somehow
[02:08] <goodthing> i suspect that grub is working with wrong paths by that, but my knowledge stops there
[02:10] <DaSkreech> Live CD works fine?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Well edgy does have upstart
[02:11] <goodthing> uhm, yeah live-cd boots although the /dev/sd* paths are weird
[02:11] <goodthing> somehow SATA1 and SATA3 get switched every time
[02:12] <goodthing> in live that is ok i guess, but from the disk it is a problem
[02:12] <binary2k2> the sd* devices are made in order of detection, so i think it depends on a mixture of the kernel and udev
[02:13] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Which grub is it booting from?
[02:13] <goodthing> DaSkreech: i have no idea, the grub from edgy i guess. Should i look?
[02:14] <goodthing> already looking...
[02:15] <BluesKaj> anyone running a network with windows pcs at home or at work ? ...I'm trying to make wife's windows pc work with samba on this kubuntu box, but her pc keeps asking for user and pw ...it doesn't accept the one I've stored in her pc's hostfile
[02:16] <goodthing> DaSkreech: 0.97-11ubuntu14
[02:17] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: what is the security part set as in smb.conf ?
[02:17] <binary2k2> I have a working network with an XP box at home
[02:18] <DaSkreech> goodthing: What happens if you remove all the drive s but the new one?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, my smb.conf is blank !
[02:18] <goodthing> DaSkreech: then all goes without a single problem, even if i add one the two other disk it does smooth
[02:19] <goodthing> *goes
[02:19] <goodthing> third disk= problem somehow
[02:19] <DaSkreech> third disk == ?
[02:20] <DaSkreech> original boot drive?
[02:20] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: have you tried using the setup in system settings?
[02:21] <goodthing> nope, i put edgy (which works) on SATA1, this works. Then i put one of the two older disks at SATA2 and this still goes without a problem
[02:21] <goodthing> the problem starts when i put a third SATA disk in system
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Anyone of them?
[02:22] <goodthing> yep
[02:22] <goodthing> which one does not matter
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Ah Maybe a MB problem then?
[02:22] <binary2k2> do you have to set the jumpers on SATA disks?
[02:22] <goodthing> that would be insane, this motherbord is like two years old
[02:23] <BluesKaj> yes binary2k2 , I have, but the terms are difficult to understand
[02:23] <DaSkreech> Yeah Sata isn't the most bug free technology in the world
[02:23] <DaSkreech> sataI or sataII ?
[02:23] <goodthing> binary2k2: nope, comes jumpersless, the new 750 disk has a jumper for SATA2 300gbit/s and SATA2 150gbit/s mode though. (does not make a diference)
[02:24] <goodthing> 2
[02:24] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: No Sata has one device perchannel
[02:24] <binary2k2> just askin :p
[02:24] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: Just informing
[02:25] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, what's the best settings to use in the share settings ..simple sharing or advanced ?
[02:25] <DaSkreech> What sata chipset?
[02:25] <goodthing> the hard part: the motherbord maker (asus) has stopped updating his BIOS almost a year ago
[02:26] <goodthing> one year support i got(!) where the MB was just out
[02:26] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: that's just alowind users at setup shares, not access them, simple lets any user share anything in it home, advanced sets permission to share per user (I use simple)
[02:26] <goodthing> i think one year yes
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Sounds about right
[02:27] <BluesKaj> ok cool binary2k2..I'll do that
[02:27] <goodthing> right? well, not if i still comes with bugs not
[02:27] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: this is what my smb.conf is like with an example share in it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37274/
[02:28] <goodthing> at least, it looks like it for now
[02:28] <goodthing> hmm, or not, the live-cd just work....\
[02:28] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Didn't say the MB had faults
[02:28] <DaSkreech>  SATA itself is an incomplete technology
[02:30] <goodthing> so "they" release an incomplete product on the public :s
[02:30] <binary2k2> microsoft do it all the time :p
[02:30] <DaSkreech> goodthing: It's mostly good
[02:30] <goodthing> they all do it i guess
[02:31] <goodthing> but when it hurts you it's no fun
[02:31] <DaSkreech> It's stuff like having 4 controllers or sharing channels sends it crazy
[02:31] <binary2k2> the linux kernel itself is incomplete
[02:31] <binary2k2> work in progress
[02:31] <DaSkreech> Which was to be taken care of in SATA II but they spent a lot of time on timing stuff and less on organization
[02:31] <DaSkreech>  SATA II *should* be much better
[02:32] <goodthing> well, i have waited for sataII to buy this board and disks back then
[02:32] <DaSkreech> Hi Jucato
[02:33] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, why would my smb.conf file be blank ...I don't get it :P
[02:33] <goodthing> sometimes i ask myself why i would my own systems....
[02:33] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[02:33] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: I don't know, I set mine up over a year ago, don't remember if it was empty, I just drag it from distro to distro
[02:34] <BluesKaj> is it cuz I'm also using komba2 to link my network ?
[02:35] <binary2k2> maybe, it could have killed your smb.conf, but I don't use it so I can't say
[02:36] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: SWAT (Samba Wab Administration Tool) is I think waht I used to set mine up
[02:36] <binary2k2> bit like webmin
[02:37] <BluesKaj> ok thx ...wifes asleep already due to her early shifts ,, pc is in her bedroom ... we're an old married (40yrs together) couple
[02:37] <DaSkreech> For somereason I read pregnant in that sentence
[02:38] <goodthing> hehe
[02:38] <BluesKaj> she's retiring in may... I'll put linux on her new pc
[02:39] <binary2k2> ftp can be so much easier :p
[02:39] <BluesKaj> SWAT ...here we go
[02:39] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: You got it working?
[02:39] <JohnFlux> hmm what?
[02:40] <kpenrose> has anyone installed xemacs on 6.10 and gotten it to work?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, I really don't need to have access to this box from her pc ..but i want to have all options available :)
[02:40] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: xpenguins
[02:40] <JohnFlux> oh i didn't play with it
[02:41] <DaSkreech> :-(
[02:41] <goodthing> DaSkreech: what do you think, should i file a bug report for this?
[02:41] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: I know what you mean, I hardly ever need to access the this box from the windows one, but there's bound to be that one time I will :p
[02:42] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Again I think that it's a SATA thing but what can we use to eliminate that?
[02:42] <BluesKaj> I can do it from the windows partition if need be
[02:43] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: putty?
[02:43] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: yeah, I use that mostly
[02:43] <goodthing> DaSkreech: not much i guess, i think could have tried installing windowsxp..., but then it would not detect the other two disks because of the file systems...
[02:43] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: but sometimes it's easier to "mount the network drive" on windows
[02:45] <jorge_> hola necesito ayuda dee ubuntu
[02:45] <goodthing> but maybe it would at least view the disks, hmm, would that say anything?
[02:46] <crimsun_> jorge_: #kubuntu-es
[02:46] <jorge_> ok gracias
[02:46] <crimsun_> de nada
[02:47] <DaSkreech> how many sata connectors are there?
[02:47] <goodthing> DaSkreech: four for single use, four for raid
[02:47] <goodthing> and two IDE
[02:47] <DaSkreech> Wht happens if you put on on the raid?
[02:48] <goodthing> destroy my data i guess
[02:49] <goodthing> afaik raid needs to be used from the start of making "partitions"
[02:49] <DaSkreech> You can't JBOD it?
[02:51] <goodthing> i have no idea what that is, i've only heard of it
[02:53] <carlos> hello, i am running kubuntu 5.10. I'd like to update it to 6.10... what's the update process?
[02:54] <[Relic] > Anyone install firefox 2.0?
[02:54] <binary2k2> carlos: upgrade to 6.06 then to 6.10
[02:54] <carlos> and what i have to do?
[02:54] <carlos> and can't it be one shot? I mean from 5.10 to 6.10 is just 12 months :P
[02:55] <binary2k2> carlos: no, you really can't jump like that without messing things up
[02:55] <binary2k2> carlos: follow the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades then at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[02:56] <Jucato> !upgrade
[02:56] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:56] <Jucato> use that one for upgrading from Dapper to Edgy ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[02:56] <[Relic] > !firefox
[02:56] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:56] <carlos> Aw. I am goign to need to download like 1gb
[02:57] <binary2k2> yeah :p
[02:57] <binary2k2> but it's the only safe way
[02:57] <carlos> why couldn't i choose a rolling release distro
[02:57] <binary2k2> and i use safe quite loosely :p
[02:58] <binary2k2> because kubuntu has support cycles
[02:58] <carlos> Well I don't need upgrading so badly. I am happy where I am. Is good to have 3.4 KDE and 1.0.7 firefox.
[02:58] <binary2k2> as dose ubutnu
[02:59] <binary2k2> I like KDE 3.5.5 and firefox 2.0
[02:59] <binary2k2> but I'll soon got o feisty and see what thats got
[02:59] <carlos> pure markettng :P
[02:59] <binary2k2> nope, BUG FIXES :D
[03:00] <binary2k2> lots and lots of bug fises
[03:00] <binary2k2> *fixes
[03:02] <carlos> I have kubuntu on my laptop and arch on my desktop. I like arch and its package management system (very fast and easy to update after real long periods of time). But I like kubuntu for its easyness. XD
[03:03] <goodthing> hmm, and raid was a problem with the firmware version of one of my maxtor disks. Of course that firmware needs to be updates from inside windows.
[03:04] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Just A bunch of disks
[03:04] <goodthing> yeah i know, already looked it up
[03:04] <mankeletor> hi all
[03:04] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Essentially the same thign as disabling RAID
[03:05] <carlos> well
[03:05] <carlos> thanks for the help
[03:05] <carlos> Gotta run.
[03:05] <binary2k2> cya
[03:05] <carlos> tata binary2k2
[03:05] <mankeletor> how can I do for install yakuake in kubuntu? (sorry for the stupid question, im new with this distro)
[03:05] <goodthing> i could use raid ir jbod for the two maxtors, there are almost the same disks, only the age is a little different. But i yet do not trust my new disk to carry all my data
[03:06] <binary2k2> mankeletor: either use adept or "sudo apt-get install yakuake"
[03:07] <DaSkreech> Of course
[03:07] <DaSkreech> real men use Windows
[03:07] <goodthing> !
[03:07] <goodthing> are you sick?
[03:07] <DaSkreech> no Maxtor is
[03:08] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Do you have universe enabled?
[03:09] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: universe enabled?
[03:09] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: New to Kubuntu or new to LInux?
[03:09] <binary2k2> mankeletor: have you used debian before?
[03:09] <goodthing> i agree
[03:10] <mankeletor> never
[03:10] <mankeletor> i used slackware
[03:10] <binary2k2> ahh
[03:10] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Ah
[03:10] <DaSkreech> real men use slackware
[03:10] <binary2k2> from the top then
[03:10] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: lol
[03:10] <DaSkreech> mankeletor:
[03:11] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: I have compiled a lot of packages for slack
[03:11] <DaSkreech> Debian breaks the packages into catefories
[03:11] <DaSkreech> !universe
[03:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:11] <DaSkreech> You can read more there
[03:11] <DaSkreech> but in short yakuake is not maintained by Ubuntu so it's in the universe packages
[03:12] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: It's called series in slackware
[03:12] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: I take it you have no preference between cli or GUI?
[03:12] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Hmm I'll note that
[03:12] <binary2k2> on slack, he must be a cli veteran :p
[03:12] <mankeletor> xD
[03:13] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: doesn't mean he prefers it :)
[03:13] <binary2k2> why wouldn't you tho, gotta love hat console :D
[03:13] <binary2k2> s/hat/that/
[03:14] <DaSkreech> They need a gui SED :)
[03:14] <binary2k2> search and replace
[03:14] <binary2k2> uses regxp too
[03:14] <DaSkreech> blast
[03:14] <DaSkreech> does KDE do everything right!?!?!?
[03:14] <binary2k2> YES!!
[03:14] <binary2k2> :p
[03:15] <DaSkreech> No DaSkreech of kourse they dont
[03:15] <DaSkreech> goodthing: if you can do JBOD in RAID they don't need to be the same
[03:15] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: gui is nice :)
[03:16] <DaSkreech> ok press Alt+Space
[03:16] <DaSkreech> type adept
[03:16] <DaSkreech> press enter
[03:16] <binary2k2> of you have katapult
[03:16] <binary2k2> alt-f2 to get a run dialog
[03:16] <DaSkreech> s/of/oof :)
[03:16] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: Do I need to add more repositories to Adept?
[03:16] <binary2k2> yes, I was about to do that :p
[03:16] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: yes I was going to walk you through it
[03:17] <binary2k2> shame konversation doesn't have sed tho :p
[03:17] <DaSkreech> ubotu should
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about should - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <mankeletor> Adept is a GUI for apt-get?
[03:17] <DaSkreech> I think apt does
[03:17] <DaSkreech> Shut bot bot!
[03:17] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Yup
[03:17] <DaSkreech> what's the opposite of botsnack?
[03:17] <binary2k2> !botsnack
[03:17] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:18] <binary2k2> !botslap
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <DaSkreech> don't feed the thing!
[03:18] <binary2k2> aww :p
[03:19] <binary2k2> maybe I'll send a new feature request for a botslap
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Please do
[03:19] <DaSkreech>  and make it karmaed
[03:20] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: You can let me know when it's open :)
[03:20] <binary2k2> nano is much easier to add sources with
[03:20] <binary2k2> have i mentioned that i hate adept?
[03:20] <DaSkreech> yeah but he asked for GUI :)
[03:21] <binary2k2> synaptic :p
[03:21] <DaSkreech> what's the adept hate for?
[03:21] <tony__> hello. how can i creat a CD image ( recovery  ) of my new linux installation ?
[03:21] <binary2k2> but you need to install it with adept :p
[03:21] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: I just dislike the GUI and it's not as powerful as synaptic IMO
[03:22] <DaSkreech> Hmm I always get lost in Synaptic
[03:22] <DaSkreech> Not more powerful how?
[03:22] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: Im on it, Im seeing the repository manager
[03:22] <tony__> hello. how can i creat a CD image ( recovery  ) of my new linux installation ?
[03:23] <binary2k2> with synaptic you can hold packages, force versions, download changelogs and other stuff too
[03:23] <DaSkreech> right go down to the line that has edgy (I assume this is edgy) and universe
[03:23] <DaSkreech> Not edgy-backports
[03:23] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: touche that's my exact wishlist for adept
[03:23] <DaSkreech> tony__: I'm not sure what you are asking
[03:23] <binary2k2> and you can install java with it too :p
[03:24] <DaSkreech> you cn do that with adept
[03:24] <DaSkreech> it has two recommended packages that don't get installed. install them and you can install java and flash
[03:24] <binary2k2> it has (or had) problams letting you accept the license
[03:24] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: Yes I guess, It says ergy, ergy-update, and ergy-security
[03:24] <tony__> i installed linux , so , i need to creat recovery CD, so something happend , all i have to is to insert the cd and install linux will all the extar that i have installed
[03:25] <DaSkreech> edgy :)
[03:25] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Ok the one that says "*edgy universe" should be disabled
[03:25] <DaSkreech> hi Hobbsee
[03:25] <binary2k2> !backup | tony__
[03:25] <ubotu> tony__: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:26] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Klick on enable then double click the word universe
[03:26] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: btw do you use MP3s or you never touch the nasty things?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech
[03:26] <mankeletor> lol I use mp3's and ogg's
[03:27] <binary2k2> amarok installs mp3 support now, I think, i only use ogg :D
[03:27] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Right as I was saying double click the word universe and you should be able to edit it
[03:27] <httpdss> im having some font issue problem ... and not OOo related :D ... the thing is i have kde configured for DejaVu Sans .. size 11 ... my actual dpi is of 75 ... the thing is that when kde starts, the kicker font size is like 13 or 14 ... i do "killall kicker" and "kicker &" and up goes my really nice kicker with font size 11 ... someone can explain whats happening here ? where is kicker initialized ?
[03:27] <DaSkreech> add in a space after the word universe and type in multiverse
[03:28] <DaSkreech> once you do all that click apply and close it out. Back at the farm... I mean back in adept press fetch updates
[03:28] <TehKewl1> err... why doesnt dapper have GTK 2.10 yet?
[03:28] <TehKewl1> I thought it was long term support
[03:28] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: I'm on my way to only using ogg but untill people start shipping ogg hardware players mp3 is going to be around for a bit
[03:28] <tony__> ok , backup is good, but problme with back up is that , i have to install linux first and then restor my back up right ???
[03:29] <DaSkreech> tony__: First thing is that you should have a seperate home partition
[03:29] <tony__> what happens if i format my harddrive , can i use the back up to start all installation as soon as i boot the system
[03:29] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: my apple iPod nano, plays ogg :D
[03:29] <DaSkreech> that will save a load of heartache unless you like messing with your system a lot
[03:29] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: With ipod linux installed
[03:30] <tony__> there is only single user on this pc, so im not adding extra home partition
[03:30] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: I do have that installed, but it's not a good media player, I use RockBox
[03:30] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: After that just type in yakuake in the search box
[03:30] <DaSkreech> Link?
[03:30] <tony__> i need someting like GHOST dose for Window . creates the IMAGE of your hardrive and burns that on CD
[03:30] <vanique> Hi
[03:31] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: http://www.rockbox.org/
[03:32] <DaSkreech> How much compression does it use?
[03:32] <binary2k2> what ogg?
[03:32] <DaSkreech> !grue
[03:32] <ubotu> The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)
[03:32] <DaSkreech> no GHOST
[03:33] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: ogg has no compression
[03:33] <binary2k2> but it is better quality IMO
[03:33] <DaSkreech> I think you mean vorbis :)
[03:34] <binary2k2> damn you and your pedanticness :p
[03:34] <DaSkreech> Haha :)
[03:34] <DaSkreech> !shut up!
[03:34] <ubotu> :x
[03:35] <DaSkreech> Guess I'll have to live with that
[03:35] <binary2k2> no, I mean vorbis in an ogg container :p
[03:35] <DaSkreech> What would botslap elicit?
[03:36] <binary2k2> the bot will be upset with you, and will stop talking to you
[03:36] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:38] <hujciwdupe> i want to capture some old tapes into flacs or waves and clean them up a little , what would be the best app to do this
[03:38] <hujciwdupe> ?
[03:41] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: *universe is disabled now
[03:42] <BluesKaj> hujciwdupe, audacity might do it
[03:42] <mankeletor> binary2k2: I noticed that ogg have better audio quality than mp3
[03:43] <BluesKaj> wav and flac are best ..lossless
[03:43] <binary2k2> mankeletor: yeah, I can't notice the difference between a 64kbps ogg (vorbis) and a 128kbps mp3 :p
[03:43] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Umm You should enable it
[03:44] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: Ok, enabled now
[03:44] <DaSkreech> hujciwdupe: It's going to be a pain but you can google it pretty easily
[03:44] <DaSkreech> Not so much the capturing you can do that a whole bunch of ways but cleaning them is going to be painful
[03:44] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: did you add multiverse?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Hi
[03:46] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: nope
[03:46] <DaSkreech> ok double click the word universe
[03:46] <DaSkreech> you should be able to edit it
[03:46] <DaSkreech> put a space after the word and type in multiverse
[03:46] <mankeletor> done
[03:46] <DaSkreech> then click apply
[03:46] <hujciwdupe> ok , ty .,.,  i know goldwave is really good for that , buti think it only runs on windows
[03:46] <DaSkreech> close and click fetch updates
[03:46] <mankeletor> So i should change multiverse by universe?
[03:47] <DaSkreech> hujciwdupe: Audacity should have you covered
[03:47] <mankeletor> I mean, universe by multiverse
[03:47] <mankeletor> :P
[03:47] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: don't change universe to multiverse. add it beside it
[03:47] <DaSkreech> so it looks like "universe multiverse"
[03:47] <DaSkreech> then click apply
[03:48] <Jucato> (now DaSkreech probably realizes how difficult it is to explain how to add "multiverse" in Adept...)
[03:48] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: done
[03:48] <DaSkreech> click apply
[03:48] <hujciwdupe> will try audacity
[03:49] <ubuntu_> I am trying to restore Grub, how do I know what my boot partition number is_
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Jucato: it's normally pretty easy to pick up. I'm doing half explanations soit's probably my fault
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Maybe you can help goodthing.
[03:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. you're doing fine. based on (my and others) experience, it's always difficult explaining how to add multiverse
[03:50] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: after clicking apply when you get back to adept click fetch updates
[03:50] <mankeletor> done
[03:50] <hujciwdupe> was anyone unable to connect to wireless network even tho everything was setup right with 6.10?
[03:50] <_goofy_> how do i mount a drive so i have read/write abilitys for owner, groupe, and "other"
[03:50] <Jucato> DaSkreech: the success rate of people successfully adding multiverse, using the guide from the Wikis, is less than 50%, imho
[03:50] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: after the update type in yakuake in the search box
[03:50] <phobiac> ubuntu_: Tricky question. Do you have Qtparted or Gparted installed?
[03:51] <ubuntu_> phobiac: I am runninng Live CD right now so I the installer can tell me
[03:51] <ubuntu_> but I dont know how to translate hdc5 for grub for eg
[03:51] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: After, request install, Aply the changes... done.
[03:51] <Jucato> ubuntu_: hdc5 will be hd2,4 afaik
[03:52] <Jucato> GRUB starts from 0, the usual hd** starts from 1
[03:52] <Jucato> a, b, c, d = 0, 1, 2, 3; hdc = hd2
[03:52] <phobiac> ubuntu_: If you have access to your Fstab it should be able to tell you which partition is which.
[03:53] <ubuntu_> grub> root (hd2,4)
[03:53] <ubuntu_> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[03:53] <Jucato> are you sure it's on hdc5?
[03:53] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Umm sure... When I reach that section I'll tell you :)
[03:53] <ubuntu_> thats the / partition of my Kubuntu installation
[03:53] <DaSkreech> You may also want to look at libxine-extracodecs
[03:53] <ubuntu_> but Ive installed Win XP for tests and it removed grub obviously
[03:53] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: thank you very much :)
[03:54] <Jucato> hm...
[03:54] <Jucato> !grub | ubuntu_
[03:54] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:54] <Jucato> try following that guide...
[03:54] <phobiac> I think the windows recovery guide gives you instructions on how to restore grub with the Live CD too.
[03:55] <Jucato> oh, btw, if you type in the grub prompt "find /boot/grub/stage1", it will output which partitions contain the /boot directory
[03:55] <ubuntu_> yes, i was following this, Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[03:55] <ubuntu_> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[03:55] <ubuntu_> Error 15: File not found
[03:55] <ubuntu_> I dont know whats the problem
[03:55] <Jucato> hm... that looks bad...
[03:55] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: can i use apt-get too?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Oh I love kaffiene btw :)
[03:56] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Yup
[03:56] <DaSkreech> man apt-get and go crazy
[03:56] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I loved kaffeine
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ed?
[03:56] <Jucato> yes
[03:56] <Jucato> I'm looking towards KPlayer right now... because of some issues I'm having with Kaffeine
[03:57] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: If you wanna go crazy you should try to compile KDE yourself
[03:57] <mankeletor> lol
[03:57] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: that's krazy FYI
[03:57] <DaSkreech> What issues?
[03:57] <DaSkreech> I just discoverd if you jump desktop when a video is playing and it's up it pauses the video till you come back
[03:58] <Jucato> DaSkreech: some .mkv videos do not play properly (maybe a Xine thing), a slightly bad (just imho) UI, and inconsistent (from the rest of KDE) mouse wheel behavior
[03:58] <Jucato> small things... but they annoy me :P
[03:59] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: http://www.kwort.org/staticpages/index.php?page=20060903213413709 <-- See who is the KDE maintainer of that distro
[04:00] <Jucato> second on the list...
[04:00] <hujciwdupe> is i586 same as x84 same as 32bit ?
[04:00] <mankeletor> yup
[04:00] <mankeletor> hujciwdupe: nope
[04:00] <ant_> x86
[04:01] <BluesKaj> does hotmail still publish the senders IP addy in the header ?
[04:01] <mankeletor> i586 means pentium I and above
[04:01] <ant_> it means the processor your using is a p2
[04:01] <ant_> well pre p3
[04:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Kaffiene is pretty inconsistent. what mouse whell behaviour?
[04:01] <mankeletor> i686 p2 and above
[04:02] <hujciwdupe> ahhh
[04:02] <luca> hi everyone
[04:02] <mankeletor> hi luca
[04:02] <luca> can someone helpme restoring OpenGL on my pc?
[04:03] <Jucato> DaSkreech: in almost all KDE apps (specially KDE multimedia apps), scrolling the mouse wheel up moves the sliders forward (to the right/up), and scrolling it down moves the sliders backward (to the left/down). It's the reverse in Kaffeine
[04:03] <hujciwdupe> does wireless networking on linux work with anything besides WEP?
[04:03] <luca> hi mankeletor
[04:03] <luca> hujciwdupe try wifi-radar
[04:03] <luca> I believe it has wpa support
[04:03] <morgWork> gah, anyone else having wireless issues with a freshly installed 6.10 on an IBM T42 Thinkpad? I'm checking the forums but not seeing much
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Ha ha :-) never noticed it before. I suppose that's a easy patch
[04:04] <Jucato> easy for who? :P
[04:04] <DaSkreech> anyone who is annoyed enough by it to look
[04:04] <hujciwdupe> luca,ty will try
[04:04] <Jucato> it's been like that since I remember (breezy). either the devs don't know about it, or they don't want to change it
[04:04] <Jucato> in either case, it doesn't solve my other problem (.mkv)
[04:05] <DaSkreech> Jucato: filed bugs on any of this?
[04:05] <Jucato> hehe anyway... gtg :P
[04:05] <DaSkreech> seeya!
[04:05] <Jucato> DaSkreech: nope... not really interested in filing one yet... maybe one of these days :P
[04:05] <luca> hujciwdupe np :)
[04:06] <hujciwdupe> morgWork,, whats your problem with wireless, im having wireless problems too
[04:07] <morgWork> hujciwdupe: it's unable to set channels with ipwconfig for starters
[04:07] <morgWork> wlassistant doesn't like it, kwlan doesn't either
[04:07] <morgWork> wpa_supplicant is a no go as well
[04:08] <morgWork> it can see networks via iwlist eth1 scanning, but can't really do much with it
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Can't wget download real files? not just HTML files?
[04:09] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: yes
[04:09] <morgWork> DaSkreech: wget can download pretty much anything
[04:09] <luca> anyone willing to help me with opengl?
[04:09] <DaSkreech> then why the back side won't it listen to me?
[04:09] <hujciwdupe> morgWork, i can see my network but no matte what i do , it will not connect to it , something is messed up with the wep key
[04:10] <ubuntu> Hi, I've got a problem with a harddisk. I just made a backup to one harddisk, and now I'm trying to copy it to another one. The copying is pretty slow, and after some while, I always get some "Input/Output" Erorrs. If I unmount and remount hte partition, I can copy some more stuff, but the harddisk seems to be brocken - right?
[04:10] <ubuntu> What can I do to figure out what's wrong with it?
[04:10] <DaSkreech> wget -rc http://horus.gasid.org.uk/wf/
[04:10] <DaSkreech> gives me a 404 index.html not found
[04:10] <morgWork> hujciwdupe: yeah, it's a pain in the ass. I had a t42 previously, but it was a t42p, which used ipw2200 rather than 2100 and it worked great
[04:11] <BluesKaj> i have swat (Samba Web Admin Tool) in the form of a *.gz file ...how am I supposed to handle this file if it 's always cpmpressed ..it won't open into a normal file ...looks a lot like HTML or PDF
[04:11] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: it's in the repositorys (edgy)
[04:12] <hujciwdupe> morgWork, doent it set the channel utomatically when it connects to the network it detected?
[04:13] <DaSkreech> What am I doing wrong?
[04:13] <BluesKaj> yeah binary2k2 , I installed it with synaptic ...this form of file is strange
[04:14] <luca> ubuntu check permissions of the files
[04:14] <luca> ubuntu they could be mesisng things up
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Or can someone start wget on that URL and tell me what they typed in :)
[04:14] <luca> nobody for opengl? :(
[04:14] <ubuntu> luca: 664 on every file and 775 on every dir, I'm the owner
[04:15] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: you should just go to http://localhost:901/
[04:15] <DaSkreech> luca: #ubuntu-xgl would be a good placeto try as well
[04:15] <luca> ubuntu doh not really understandng, you seem to know more :)
[04:15] <Agent_bob> what device is a scaner (MFD)  ?
[04:15] <luca> DaSkreech: I am there, and the last post was mine.......20 minutes ago
[04:15] <DaSkreech> ha ha :)
[04:16] <mankeletor> anyone knows how to make a debian package?
[04:16] <mankeletor> i need to compile amule
[04:16] <DaSkreech> you should be able to install it without compiling
[04:17] <luca> mankeletor: all I know is that checkinstall can create deb files.....type sudo checkinstall instead of sudo make install
[04:17] <BluesKaj> yeah, binary2k2 thx , i just discovered that :)
[04:17] <luca> does nobody want to help me? :(
[04:18] <DaSkreech> What's the problem?
[04:18] <luca> no opengl
[04:18] <Agent_bob> anyone know the device node for a usb connected MFD scanner ?
[04:18] <DaSkreech> It sounds like you had it before
[04:18] <phobiac> mankeletor, there's something called alien that can convert files to debian packages
[04:18] <luca> when i try to open a program requiring it i receive a message which says xlib: no glx option for screen 0:0
[04:19] <DaSkreech> morgWork: How do I get wget to mirror a folder?
[04:19] <luca> DaSkreech: yeah I had it.......but I messed around with video drivers
[04:19] <DaSkreech> luca: What drivers do you hve installed and waht video card
[04:19] <DaSkreech> !opengl
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <morgWork> DaSkreech: no clue off hand, check the man page...
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Well it said -r for recursive
[04:19] <morgWork> hujciwdupe: nope
[04:19] <luca> DaSkreech I have an intel 82855 with i810 as driver
[04:19] <morgWork> it doesn't change the channel at all
[04:20] <DaSkreech> but I guess recurcive needs a HTML page to start off
[04:20] <morgWork> ok, I need to reboot, brb
[04:20] <luca> the driver has some problems at resuming after suspend
[04:20] <mankeletor> i prefer to make packages myself, i dont like to much alien and checkinstall
[04:20] <phobiac> Alright, just thought that might help you.
[04:21] <luca> I messed around with xgl and beryl and video drivers and now suspend functions....do not understand perfectly why
[04:21] <luca> but no opengl
[04:22] <binary2k2> super cow powers at work :p
[04:25] <DaSkreech> do you have glx in your xorg.conf?
[04:25] <intelikey> anyone know the device node for a usb connected MFD scanner ?    or howto set it up ?
[04:25] <arunkale> Hey, people
[04:25] <intelikey> or where to get info ?
[04:25] <luca> DaSkreech: where should i be?
[04:25] <luca> it
[04:26] <arunkale> I want to try out the Ubuntu (Gnome) -- how do I go about it?
[04:26] <phobiac> arunkale: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <arunkale> phobiac: what happens after it's installed?
[04:27] <phobiac> Then you'll be able to start a session running gnome at your login screen.
[04:27] <binary2k2> you'll get a choice when you login to start gnome or kde
[04:27] <DaSkreech> luca: /etc/X11
[04:27] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Doesn't the Kontrol Center have a ahardware info section?
[04:27] <arunkale> ah thanks.. so how big is the download?
[04:27] <phobiac> You can click the options menu on the side to choose to change the session, or do alt+t and the menu will pop up.
[04:28] <luca> DaSkreech: I meant in the file :)
[04:28] <phobiac> I went the other way around. Started with gnome and switched to kde. It took a little while for me, not unbearable though.
[04:28] <arunkale> like 100 mb?
[04:28] <DaSkreech> *shrugs* just grep it
[04:28] <luca> DaSkreech: I hav been modifying that little text file doxens of times now.... :(
[04:28] <DaSkreech> If you don't have it then you don't have opengl
[04:28] <DaSkreech> I was wondering
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Kinda hard to have beryl and not know where that file is
[04:29] <phobiac> It installs the gnome pacakages like gaim, gedit, and such. So it takes a while.
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Anyone want to shed some light on the wget terminology?
[04:29] <arunkale> ah okay, thanks :)
[04:29] <luca> DaSkreech what command should I issue?
[04:29] <phobiac> No problem.
[04:29] <arunkale> ok, so i just need to use the sudo command, nothing else?
[04:29] <DaSkreech> cause it obviously doesn't speak english
[04:30] <DaSkreech> luca: grep gls /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[04:30] <DaSkreech> luca: grep glx /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[04:30] <luca> I have a Load "glx" which I myself added
[04:30] <luca> nothing else
[04:31] <DaSkreech> That should do it
[04:31] <luca> it is under modules
[04:31] <arunkale> phobiac: is gnome faster than kde?
[04:31] <luca> DaSkreech it does not however :(
[04:31] <phobiac> arunkale: Same speed for me.
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah I know but that's the first step to opengl As i understand it
[04:31] <DaSkreech>  what error are you getting?
[04:32] <luca> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:32] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: The Distro uses XFCE?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> what drivers are you using?
[04:32] <phobiac> arunkale: If you're used to kde's one toolbar it might be a little odd to use gnome's default two toolbars though.
[04:32] <BluesKaj> hmmm, my samba vers is smb4k and the samba web admin tool is written for vers 3.0 ...wondering if there's an upgrade problem
[04:33] <DaSkreech> nv? nividia? ati? fgrlx? vesa?
[04:33] <luca> DaSkreech: i810
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Hmm that should work as well
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Well that's about as much as my knowldege goes
[04:33] <luca> DaSkreech I know because it did :(
[04:33] <DaSkreech> luca: Perhaps ##linux ?
[04:34] <luca> eh thx anyways
[04:34] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: if you're talking about Kwort, yes
[04:34] <luca> I will look into it later.... :(
[04:34] <arunkale> phobiac: is it easy to uninstall gnome later?
[04:35] <phobiac> arunkale: You should be able to use adept to purge ubuntu-desktop and it should unistall all the related packages.
[04:35] <phobiac> Note though, should. I can't gaurentee no problems will occur.
[04:36] <arunkale> ok.. thanks
[04:37] <arunkale> how much space does it require?
[04:37] <arunkale> my kubuntu partition is like 10GB i think
[04:37] <phobiac> If you use the command line it should tell you and ask you before going through with the install how much space it requires.
[04:37] <arunkale> alright
[04:37] <arunkale> thanks
[04:37] <binary2k2> 10GB is fine for a decent install
[04:37] <phobiac> It's less then 1gb though.
[04:38] <arunkale> thanks a lot man
[04:38] <phobiac> And the worst that happens is you uninstall a package you didn't want to. Easy enough to fix that.
[04:39] <sirjinx> Hi. Can some help me customise the kde menu? Could some point me in the right direction of setting it up so it looks like the one in opensuse?
[04:39] <[Relic] > 6.10 considered the lastest stable release?
[04:39] <binary2k2> 6.10 is the latest stable release yes
[04:39] <matthew> [Relic] , yes
[04:39] <DaSkreech> !kickoff
[04:39] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:39] <DaSkreech> sirjinx: There you go
[04:39] <[Relic] > time to back up everything and install 6.10 then  :)
[04:40] <sirjinx> thanks, it was what I was looking for :)
[04:40] <binary2k2> [Relic]  good luck with that
[04:40] <DaSkreech> It's called kickoff for future google searches :)
[04:40] <matthew> [Relic] , worked good for me!
[04:40] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: used wget to mirror a directory before?
[04:41] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: I haven't but I think it can be done
[04:41] <binary2k2> man wget has all the answers :p
[04:41] <phobiac> arunkale: And no problem. Good luck with the install. It's always nice to try something new, that was my main reason for even switching to linux in the first place.
[04:41] <DaSkreech> No It doesn't. It doesn't speak english
[04:41] <[Relic] > got a new MB & CPU so I figure a fresh install would be best
[04:42] <binary2k2> [Relic] : linux won't care if you change your HD and CPU, it will just work
[04:42] <arunkale> phobiac: same here :)
[04:42] <binary2k2> or MB too
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> HDD, maybe...if it has your partition on it..
[04:42] <STD> I need help :/ I don't have the option for treble or bass control in the alsamixer D: I have logitech z-2400 speakers and I'm getting no bass sound out of them x_X
[04:42] <binary2k2> yeah, i meant 'MB' not 'HD' :p
[04:42] <[Relic] > :)
[04:43] <[Relic] > just want it to be clean  :)
[04:43] <[Relic] > good excuse to back up all the 3d art files too :)
[04:44] <mankeletor> ubotu: it looks nice
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it looks nice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <Admiral_Chicago> mankeletor: that's a robot
[04:46] <Lam_> amarok can play flac out of the box, right?
[04:46] <mankeletor> Admiral_Chicago: hmm I being crazy
[04:46] <phobiac> Lam_: I'm pretty sure it can
[04:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Lam_: i believe so
[04:46] <Admiral_Chicago> flac = open format?
[04:47] <Lam_> i think it might be
[04:47] <mankeletor> ubotu: !help
[04:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:47] <matthew> flac == full lossless audio codec?
[04:47] <Admiral_Chicago> if it's an open format like ogg it will
[04:48] <mankeletor> flac == for loosers audio codec :P
[04:49] <matthew> mankeletor, why do you say that?
[04:49] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: it is an open format
[04:49] <mankeletor> matthew: joke xD
[04:49] <matthew> ah...oh right, lol
[04:49] <Admiral_Chicago> thank Jucato
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> oh I did 8/10 chapters, so now all i have lab reports and a final
[04:50] <Jucato> :)
[04:52] <goodthing> DaSkreech: still there? You know what is even mote weird? The data on the partition which should contain edgy minus the /home folder only carries a folder home (empty) and a folder media (with enpty folders). Still, if i boot from is with two disks, i have a living system FROM THAT PARTITION. I tell you, it is spooky in here...
[04:52] <goodthing> *more
[04:52] <DaSkreech> what is it formatted as?
[04:52] <goodthing> ext3
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Jucato: used wget?
[04:53] <Jucato> DaSkreech: for?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Mirroring a folder
[04:53] <Jucato> um... nope
[04:53] <DaSkreech> mirroring anything?
[04:53] <spawn57> how do i run konqueror as root?
[04:54] <Jucato> spawn57: kdesu konqueror
[04:54] <Jucato> DaSkreech: nope...
[04:54] <DaSkreech> spawn57: kdesu konqueror
[04:54] <spawn57> ah thanx
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Blast
[04:56] <DaSkreech> I lose
[04:56] <Dark_Oppressor> is there some kind of program that will give me a nice visual representation of my harddrive and how much space different directories are using?
[04:57] <mankeletor> adept have found frozen-bubble :D awesome!
[04:58] <goodthing> hmm, let's download a newer debian and see what that does
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Dark_Oppressor: yes, i forget the name
[04:59] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Old one though
[04:59] <DaSkreech> The new one has network multiplay :)
[04:59] <phobiac> Bye all
[05:00] <Dark_Oppressor> Admiral_Chicago: if you happen to remember the name let me know :P
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> sure
[05:01] <rance> I have a problem with KDE getting EXCLUSIVE access to the sound device, is there any way to make that SHARED access?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Bloody wget
[05:04] <luca> hi again
[05:04] <luca> found the problem, I have a sticky nvidia-glx driver
[05:05] <DaSkreech> sticky?
[05:06] <luca> doesn't uninstall
[05:06] <jerp> So I'm trying to install Gnash from Adept and I get a 'break(install)' in red letters when I make the request.  What's up?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Ah
[05:06] <luca> it says that there is a file in /usr/X11R6/lib/nvidia which does not want to be changed
[05:06] <rance> jerp: it means that there is a bug in that package that will break your install
[05:06] <luca> I have taken all files and put them in home...let us see
[05:06] <Jucato> jerp: try to install it through apt-get to get more descriptive error messages, or try to click on Preview Changes in Adept when you request install gnash
[05:07] <luca> uh uh done!
[05:07] <luca> rebooting!
[05:07] <Jucato> rebooting?
[05:07] <Jucato> :O
[05:07] <Dr_willis> DasBOoting!
[05:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:07] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: yeah, I was testing mandriva 2007 and got it
[05:08] <jerp> thanks rance and jucato, I'll give it a try
[05:08] <[Relic] > how do I tell how my HD is divided up?
[05:09] <ablyss> there are a few ways
[05:09] <goodthing> one can install debian from the first cd right?
[05:09] <ablyss> they're*
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Booting me?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Frozen bubble?
[05:09] <goodthing> debian has 15 cd's o_0
[05:09] <DaSkreech> goodthing: first two I think
[05:10] <Dr_willis> [Relic] ,  sudo fdisk -l /dev/whatever
[05:10] <goodthing> thx
[05:11] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: yes
[05:12] <[Relic] > 1 have 3 partitions, I need to mount the last one
[05:12] <[Relic] > and it isn't in fstab
[05:13] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: hmm i remember i got from the mandriva repositories with "urpmi --auto frozen-bubble"
[05:16] <Dr_willis> [Relic] ,  mount it manually, or add a fstab entry for it then.
[05:16] <[Relic] > no fstab can't seem to get it to mount manually either, not sure what I am doing wrong
[05:17] <Dr_willis> whats the fstab entry you are using..
[05:17] <jerp> jucato, my 'preview changes' have other files there with nothing requested to install... libsdl-mixer1.2 libsmpeg0 libmad0 libaa1
[05:17] <Dr_willis> [Relic] ,  and #1 -- the MOUNT point must exist befor you mount it.
[05:17] <Jucato> jerp: hm... Adept isn't very helpful... how about apt-get?
[05:18] <jerp> jucato, I didn't request intsall of gnash but there are those files "lurking", I haven't tried that yet
[05:19] <Jucato> jerp: I meant to request install gnash, then click Preview Changes. but try apt-get, it might be more helpful
[05:20] <[Relic] > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
[05:20] <[Relic] >        missing codepage or other error
[05:20] <[Relic] >        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:20] <[Relic] >        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:21] <[Relic] > assuming it is trying to mount that section properly but having a problem
[05:21] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:22] <jerp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37289/
[05:22] <jerp> jucato, there it is if you're interested
[05:23] <Dr_willis> [Relic] ,  thats saying 'your command/fstab line' is wrong....
[05:23] <jerp> I  used that raof repository
[05:24] <jerp> maybe I should delete that from my list
[05:24] <Jucato> try to comment/disable unnecessary/unofficial repos... might be causing problems
[05:24] <jerp> ok
[05:25] <gebruiker> linux
[05:26] <mankeletor> nice, im looking the binary file in /usr/bin, most files are stripped :)
[05:27] <[Relic] > cannot find any way this will work
[05:30] <jerp> jucato, is there a way to disable or remove those from the adept list?  wait, what's that purge command in apt-get?  could you direct me with the proper command?
[05:30] <[Relic] > how does one format a disk section?
[05:30] <Jucato> jerp: in Adept, you go to View -> Manage Repositories. right-click on the line and select Disable
[05:31] <jerp> I went into sources.list with nano and used the uncomment #
[05:31] <jerp> or comment actually
[05:32] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37290/plain/
[05:32] <intelikey> can anyone tell me what's going on there ?
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: looking now
[05:32] <jerp> so how do I get a fresh gnash that isn't bugged
[05:32] <jerp> run apt-get update?
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> modprobe sg what does htat sy
[05:34] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago no change.
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> what was the output?
[05:34] <intelikey> nothing
[05:35] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, to be honest i don't know much about printing.
[05:35] <intelikey> the printer works fine.  but there seems to be no scanner there.
[05:36] <intelikey> and yes the hardware is there....
[05:36] <intelikey> module did load btw
[05:36] <intelikey> ttyp0 [greg@~]  lsmod | grep sg
[05:36] <intelikey> sg                     37920  0
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> whats in /etc/modules?
[05:37] <intelikey> lp and scsimod  are all that might relate
[05:37] <intelikey> err scsi_mod actually
[05:38] <intelikey> the rest is sound drivers specific for the box
[05:41] <intelikey> i got the .deb's from the manufacturer and installed the printer and cups warper seem ok.  but i have hailed to get anything out of the scanner   the scanner .deb installs ok but xsane says no device found and you saw the pastebin.
[05:41] <intelikey> hailed/failed
[05:42] <intelikey>  12. found USB scanner (vendor=0x04f9, product=0x01ba) at libusb:001:002
[05:42] <intelikey> 26. No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
[05:46] <intelikey> ?
[05:47] <xsacha> 26 scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
[05:48] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a firefox plugin that allows you keep the search bar at the bottom of the page between sessions?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Ah man I'm loving on kio slaves now
[05:54] <poquedoraqu> My girlfriend got a new HP computer that came with winblowz, and we just tried to resize its partition so that kubuntu could squeeze in... but the windows partition is displayed in red, and when you try to resize it says "couldnt check disk, totally 3 clusters"
[05:56] <poquedoraqu> windows didnt put a block on it did they?
[05:58] <xsacha> mm just format windows? :)
[05:59] <poquedoraqu> Everyone says that lol :D But i cant get her to give up some of the windows stuff she likes.
[05:59] <xsacha> like?
[06:00] <xsacha> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/12/15/2234216.shtml ;P
[06:00] <poquedoraqu> A fish tank program she got that doubles as a screensaver, and a male stripper for her desktop.
[06:00] <poquedoraqu> Wine wasnt able to handle them
[06:00] <xsacha> a male stripper?
[06:00] <poquedoraqu> yeah lol
[06:01] <xsacha> so she's gonna boot up windows whenever she needs her fish tank and male stripper?
[06:01] <poquedoraqu> yes <
[06:01] <xsacha> just give her my number
[06:01] <hujciwdupe> how do i update firmware on a wireless lancard? i only have a bin file
[06:01] <poquedoraqu> lol
[06:01] <xsacha> i'll come around with a real fish tank
[06:02] <poquedoraqu> She likes sitting down with a big 3d desktop and having her little animated male dancer jump up now and then. But i hate that she's using the evil windows
[06:03] <DaSkreech> We need a <shudder> open stripper
[06:03] <poquedoraqu> lol.
[06:03] <poquedoraqu> youd hink the company would just put a linux version up. Thats *soooo* not hard.
[06:04] <DaSkreech> poquedoraqu: I'll put 10 dollars in your belt if you call them up and they don't say What is linux?
[06:04] <poquedoraqu> DaSkreech: LOL im sure you're right
[06:04] <xsacha> have you looked around for a linux version of a male stripper program?
[06:05] <poquedoraqu> no such thing
[06:05] <DaSkreech> I serverly doubt there is one
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Not a big enough itch
[06:05] <poquedoraqu> So nobody's going to help me with the un-re-sizable partition
[06:05] <DaSkreech> and who would they model? Stallman?
[06:05] <poquedoraqu> ???
[06:05] <xsacha> poquedoraqu: just make a video of you stripping every day
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Heaven (and a few otehr regalutory bodies) forbid
[06:06] <poquedoraqu> Come on guys >.<
[06:06] <xsacha> "At the Desktop Linux Conference in Boston, Red Hat and IBM detailed their desktop Linux plans. ... Danny DeVito will guest star as a male stripper"
[06:07] <xsacha> read: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=male+stripper+desktop+linux+%22Advanced+Combo+Tricks%22
[06:07] <poquedoraqu> Kubuntu's partition manager... help?
[06:07] <intelikey> poquedoraqu: boot windows turn fertual memory off and (after the restart) run scandisk and defrag   for m windows.   then try the resize.
[06:07] <unix_infidel> xsacha: the American Sit-Com "Friends" already tried that with little success.
[06:07] <unix_infidel> You'd think IBM and RH would learn :)
[06:07] <xsacha> :P
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Redhat should be very happy
[06:07] <unix_infidel> RedHat is bajillions of reasons to be happy.
[06:07] <unix_infidel> has*
[06:08] <poquedoraqu> intelikey: how fragged could it be? its been out of he package one day
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Java GPL being number Two?
[06:08] <intelikey> poquedoraqu ok don't  it's your box.
[06:08] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: Java is now GPL?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> poquedoraqu: Doesn't mean anything. On install windows throws files anywhere
[06:08] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Ehh close enough :)
[06:08] <poquedoraqu> intelikey: So windows basically blocked the partition so i cant install linux
[06:09] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: the VM or the compiler?
[06:09] <xsacha> you see the french law that would suggest that a computer and OS should be sold seperately? and HP is trying to say they need to be sold together
[06:09] <xsacha> 'The PC without an OS is not a product because it doesn't work,' said Alain Spitzmuller, legal affairs director for HP France. 'We believe the market is for products that work.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: both
[06:09] <unix_infidel> or is this some nerd TOMFOOLERY!
[06:09] <intelikey> poquedoraqu no windows basically has files at the end of the partition and the partition can't be resized in that condition
[06:09] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: what do you mean by close enough?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> poquedoraqu: defrag
[06:09] <poquedoraqu> *sigh* well, if no one can help me, she's rushing me. Ill try defrag
[06:09] <poquedoraqu> thanks
[06:09] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Announced but not GPLed fully till March 2007
[06:10] <intelikey> scandisk && defrag    then resize.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> They have put down there word ( and a  website) though
[06:10] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: I doubt it'll be of little consequence.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Why?
[06:10] <unix_infidel> erm, i should say, I doubt it'll be of any consequence.
[06:10] <intelikey> if you don't disable the pagefile (vertual memory)  you are spitting in the wind.
[06:11] <DaSkreech> again Why?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Distros can now ship with Java in it
[06:11] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  hmm.. makes me stare at my MythTVlive cd, and GeeXBoX Live cd.. :)
[06:11] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: its not like any Linux user doesn't know where to get java with a few clicks.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Java - such an Interesting History of that product...
[06:11] <unix_infidel> It's like asking a kid where to get drugs even when he's not suppose to have easy access to it.
[06:12] <unix_infidel> He ALWAYS knows where to find some.
[06:12] <intelikey> it might even be like some linux users don't even want java
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Yeah but two things. one you can ship with it no complaints and people acn actually start making the bloody VM work well now
[06:12] <intelikey> i can name at least one  :)
[06:12] <DaSkreech>  It's like Flash
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Id rather have java ,,, and no flash. :)
[06:12] <unix_infidel> Like i said, It'll be of little consequence.  Unless there's a DEDICATED project that manages the virtual machine and makes the development toolkits USABLE!
[06:13] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: WEll I don't know about usable
[06:13] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: mind your words.  AS2 is exponentially faster than java.
[06:13] <DaSkreech> look at OO.o
[06:13] <intelikey> i'd rather have no flash and no java
[06:13] <Dr_willis> unix_infidel,  dosent matter much to me...
[06:13] <xsacha> why?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Seriously?
[06:13] <intelikey> yes
[06:13] <xsacha> then no youtube :(
[06:13] <DaSkreech> You'd prefer a flat html www?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  and that would be a good thing.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:13] <xsacha> lynx ftw
[06:14] <DaSkreech> xsacha: w3m :)
[06:14] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: most end users dont care what they use.  As long as the content is available.  Flash is the better content presentation and management platform, hands down
[06:14] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: what about OO.org
[06:14] <Dr_willis> I tend to 'print' many web sites...    so whats in it for me.. heh heh
[06:14] <DaSkreech> It sucks
[06:14] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: i dont think so, neither do a lot of people.
[06:15] <intelikey> yes i have a low openion of OO also.
[06:15] <DaSkreech> It's one huge application that has different views and a dev community that seems to lumber on not really listening to people outside it
[06:15] <DaSkreech> It's done a lot
[06:15] <DaSkreech> But that doesn't mean it could be a hell of a lot better
[06:16] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: The major revolution with Java going towards GPL will undoubtedbly be a new movement in developing alternatives to Swing.
[06:16] <DaSkreech> intelikey: What do you have against flash style interaction?
[06:16] <dan_> ok i'm really tired of using opera can someone please help me get firefox going again
[06:16] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: I'm fairly sure anyone could do that before
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Hmm apparently there is a female stripper program for linux
[06:16] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: A lot of talented people wont touch anything that's proprietary for tons of good reasons.
[06:16] <dan_> nice
[06:17] <xsacha> DaSkreech: yeah of course lol
[06:17] <xsacha> DaSkreech: but there's no demand for male strippers
[06:17] <dan_> so can anyone help me please
[06:17] <DaSkreech> !firefox
[06:17] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:17] <mikemike> first day-just  testing
[06:17] <DaSkreech> dan_: There you go
[06:17] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Oh yeah propietary is mostly evil etc
[06:17] <dan_> well no i have it it just crashes upon opening
[06:18] <intelikey> DaSkreech i'm not trying to persuaid you.   i don't need to list all the things i don't like about something to not like it.    it would be much easier to list the things that one does like about the things he does like.
[06:18] <dan_> but i'll check it out
[06:18] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: I was asking intelikey why he has something against the concept of flash style interaction
[06:18] <Dark_Oppressor> what would you guys suggest for an irc server?
[06:18] <hujciwdupe> anyone know how to compile the drivers for ralink lancards
[06:18] <unix_infidel> define: "Flash style interaction"
[06:19] <DaSkreech> intelikey: at least let me get this straight. are you against the technology of flash, the license or the implementation?
[06:20] <intelikey> the license and the implementation  seeing that i havent studied the tech.....     but in fact i was asking for help with a scanner part of a mfd
[06:20] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:20] <dan_> ok ya those sites didnt help
[06:20] <dan_> can someone help me get my shit goin please
[06:21] <intelikey> yeah dan_ that's how i feel too.
[06:21] <dan_> lol
[06:21] <Dr_willis> rephrase the problem in a clear/precise way. :)
[06:21] <max_> what cant you get going?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> 'please state the nature of the linux emergancy' :)
[06:21] <dan_> ok, when i start up firefox 2.0 it crashes the instant a page starts to load i.e. yahoo
[06:22] <Dr_willis> dan_,  sounds like a plugin/extension issue.
[06:22] <max_> i had that problem, trying to think how to fix
[06:22] <dan_> i have no plugins or extension installed
[06:22] <max_> !fff
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <max_> !ff
[06:22] <dan_> but maybe lemme install it and check it out
[06:22] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:22] <arunkale> umm i did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. now i've changed my mind mid way and dont want to install gnome, how do i cancel it and remove all the stuff that's been downloaded?
[06:23] <max_> dan_:flash causes it to crash
[06:23] <Dr_willis> dan_,  as a 'test' try making a new user and see if it crashes for them also.
[06:23] <dan_> grrr flash
[06:23] <dan_> thats the problem i knew it
[06:23] <dan_> well wtf it didnt do that with dapper
[06:23] <max_> it didnt do it with 105
[06:23] <max_> 1.5*
[06:23] <dan_> ya
[06:23] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37290/plain/  this is my problem.    any fixers ?
[06:23] <dan_> but i had 2.0 in dapper and it worked
[06:24] <mikemike> I have a question.  I have a PLC that will write information to a txt file through a java applet server in a specific directory on a server.  I am passing information && commands to an AS400.  How does the AS400 get that info.  I'm thinking FTP transfer-but what triggers the transfer.  Does the AS400 poll? or is there another way?-obviously I'm not a programmer.  I can write programs in a few languages-but I don't know the system yet.  Any help would be
[06:24] <Zamber> xgl/beryl + xglgears = crash
[06:24] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:25] <DaSkreech> a computer
[06:25] <Dr_willis> ya cant have the other machine use ssh/scp to grab the data?
[06:25] <dan_> ok ya when i hit stop before the page loads then it doesnt crash
[06:25] <mikemike> AS400 is Unix mini
[06:25] <dan_> but now what?
[06:26] <linux8> sorry, question about "alien"
[06:26] <max_> go for it linux8
[06:26] <intelikey> yes that is a sorry question
[06:27] <intelikey> :)
[06:27] <linux8> i can't run command alien
[06:27] <arunkale> umm i did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. now i've changed my mind mid way and dont want to install gnome, how do i cancel it and remove all the stuff that's been downloaded?
[06:27] <max_> whats the error?
[06:27] <max_> arunkale: tried sudo apt-get remove?
[06:27] <intelikey> arunkale ^C
[06:28] <intelikey> ctrl-c
[06:28] <max_> linux8: what error do you get?
[06:28] <arunkale> thanks intelikey
[06:28] <intelikey> as for the removing apt-get clean
[06:28] <arunkale> will that delete all the downloaded files as well
[06:28] <arunkale> oh ok.. 'sudo apt-get clean' ?
[06:28] <arunkale> that'sit?
[06:28] <intelikey> yes
[06:28] <max_> why thank him?
[06:28] <max_> i told you
[06:28] <arunkale> or sudo apt-get clean ubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <mikemike> so my question doesn't count?
[06:29] <intelikey> no
[06:29] <arunkale> thanks to you too max_
[06:29] <dan_> aghhhhhhhhhh grrrr
[06:29] <linux8> status, many program not install
[06:29] <dan_> what is wrong with this program!!!!!!!!
[06:29] <mikemike> so you don't know the answer?
[06:30] <max_> linux8: and the command your doing is <alien -r filename.rpm>?
[06:30] <intelikey> max_ "<max_> arunkale: tried sudo apt-get remove?"    what did you expect him to remove ?
[06:30] <arunkale> intelikey: thanks a lot
[06:30] <max_> the file he installed
[06:30] <Dr_willis> not that removing the ubuntu-desktop stuff will do much..
[06:30] <intelikey> ubuntu-desktop max_   hehhe
[06:30] <Dr_willis> if it got cancled during the download - its not isntalled yet.
[06:30] <arunkale> max_: i had not installed anything
[06:30] <max_> you said you did an install
[06:30] <arunkale> it was downloading the stuff
[06:30] <arunkale> before installing
[06:30] <intelikey> no you misread him.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> he will just have some deb files in the apt cache dir.
[06:31] <max_> oh, ok
[06:31] <max_> my bad
[06:31] <Dr_willis> No big deal
[06:31] <linux8> yes, i'll try again, and mention messege error.
[06:31] <dan_> ok so i'm left with using opera thats just great
[06:31] <arunkale> thanks people
[06:31] <Nuked> hello all
[06:31] <max_> anyone know anything about the Fire Fox crash on pages with flash?
[06:31] <intelikey> but my point was that removing ubuntu-desktop would not have helped if he had installed it and now wanted to get rid of all the gnome krap.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Yahoo.com has flash>
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Yahoo.com has flash?
[06:31] <dan_> ya come on i cant be the only  one
[06:31] <dan_> yes
[06:32] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: yea.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> how lame is that.. gesh
[06:32] <Dr_willis> could remove flash. :)
[06:32] <Nuked> whats with the libnspr4-dev package?
[06:32] <dan_> ok how though?
[06:32] <j_> I need to remove the first four characters of each line in a text file, how is this done?
[06:32] <dan_> i dont have it installed i thought anyways
[06:32] <intelikey> j_ cut
[06:33] <Dr_willis> dan_,  you are stateing that flash is crashing firefox , even though flash is not installed?
[06:33] <dan_> i just checked nope no flash installed
[06:33] <j_> man cut will be enough?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> I think the problem may not be flash then. :)
[06:33] <dan_> i'm not saying anything about flash
[06:33] <max_> dan_: you could always ask in the #ubuntu room also, they might know
[06:33] <intelikey> yep
[06:33] <dan_> i'm saying it crashes when yahoo loads thats all
[06:33] <max_> is it JUST yahoo?
[06:33] <dan_> nope i tried other pages too
[06:34] <dan_> curiously the firefox page doesnt
[06:34] <dan_> ha
[06:34] <max_> google will lode?
[06:34] <max_> load*
[06:34] <dan_> lemme check it out
[06:34] <intelikey> J_  cut -b5- inputfile > outputfile
[06:34] <Nuked> I am currently attempting to compile the latest avidemux, and it needs jsapi.h, and the package that supplies it needs libnspr4-dev for whatever reason. Anyone have an idea as to how to remedy this problem?
[06:34] <j_> intelikey, thanks
[06:34] <intelikey> np   that's what i do.
[06:35] <dan_> ya google loads
[06:35] <max_> sounds like the pronlem i had
[06:35] <dan_> nuked, why dont you install libnspr-4-dev
[06:36] <Nuked> because it wishes to uninstall everything else
[06:36] <j_> i don't understand why manpages almost never include examples
[06:36] <dan_> i hate when that happens
[06:36] <Nuked> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner/+bug/57161
[06:36] <j_> just the syntax
[06:36] <Nuked> I guess I answered my own question
[06:36] <dan_> hahaha
[06:36] <intelikey> j_ :)   yeah.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> real men dont need examples! or ask directions!
[06:37] <Nuked> I truthfully hate nothing more than when things like these happen
[06:37] <dan_> oh come on dr. willis i need a check up
[06:37] <Nuked> first it was gaim-encryption, now this
[06:37] <intelikey> Dr_willis no that's lost men that don't ask dirrections.
[06:37] <j_> haha
[06:37] <dan_> ya what he said
[06:37] <dan_> haha
[06:37] <intelikey> real men don't get lost.
[06:37] <dan_> real men run kubuntu!!!!!!!!
[06:37] <dan_> lol
[06:38] <dan_> so anyways come on whats up with my firefox
[06:38] <arunkale> haha
[06:38] <Nuked> hang on a second
[06:39] <Nuked> lets say, hypothetically I uninstall firefox, would that solve the problem
[06:39] <Nuked> or would that make me uninstall all of ubuntu as well?
[06:39] <intelikey> scanner help ?        SOMEBODY !
[06:39] <Nuked> intellikey whats going on with yours?
[06:39] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37290/plain/
[06:40] <dan_> i uninstalled firefox and i hate opera
[06:40] <dan_> i want my fox back
[06:40] <dan_> im sinning daily because of it
[06:40] <intelikey> and no removing ff will not remove very much.
[06:40] <drkm> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde not gnome right?
[06:40] <Nuked> dan try the weekly-builds
[06:40] <intelikey> drkm yea
[06:40] <dan_> weekly-builds?
[06:41] <Nuked> intellikey compile the latest scanner backends, and try again
[06:41] <dan_> YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOHOOO
[06:41] <navaburo_> The FAQs say to ln -s /usr/java/... and so on to let firefox see the java plugin, but I don't have a /usr/java directory?
[06:41] <Nuked> I had to do that in order to get my pixma scanner to work
[06:41] <intelikey> Nuked xsane ?
[06:41] <dan_> i got it too work
[06:41] <drkm> intelikey: ok cool just checking
[06:41] <dan_> yes yes yes
[06:41] <dan_> i installed flashplayer
[06:41] <dan_> hahaha
[06:41] <Nuked> yeah intelikey
[06:42] <dan_> not that anyone cares
[06:42] <dan_> well bye guys
[06:42] <intelikey> well that should keep me from asking about it for several hours........
[06:42] <Nuked> several hours?
[06:42] <intelikey> but i doubt that it will help.
[06:42] <Nuked> more like 5-10 minutes
[06:43] <Nuked> intellikey it wants to remove everything!
[06:43] <intelikey> no i'd have to dl build-essential and all it's deps then the source code and dialup that's probably several hours....
[06:43] <intelikey> Nuked ?
[06:44] <intelikey> Nuked pastebin the list.
[06:44] <Nuked> !pastebin
[06:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:45] <Nuked> intelikey: for libnspr4-dev http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37294/
[06:45] <intelikey> hmmmm only 23m  lets see at 4k/s that....
[06:46] <navaburo_> anyone here have working java in firefox 2 on edgy?
[06:46] <Nuked> intelikey: for removing firefox
[06:46] <max_> anyone use Beryl?
[06:46] <Nuked> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37295/
[06:47] <Nuked> yes max I do
[06:47] <Nuked> never got the water plugin to work
[06:47] <Nuked> or the flames
[06:47] <intelikey> Nuked that's not much.   go for it.
[06:47] <drkm> navaburo_: I do
[06:47] <max_> do you know if XGL does anything AIGLX cant?
[06:47] <Nuked> max, personally I prefer aiglx
[06:47] <Nuked> intelikey: are you serious?
[06:48] <Nuked> are you saying I should remove the fox
[06:48] <intelikey> Nuked yes about 30 apps/libs  and all gnome.
[06:48] <intelikey> or should is say all of them gnome.
[06:49] <Nuked> so basically remove gnome
[06:49] <Nuked> ?
[06:49] <navaburo_> drkm, how did you get it installed?
[06:49] <intelikey> Nuked no only the few apps
[06:49] <intelikey> gnome will still be there.
[06:49] <Nuked> will it be crippled?
[06:50] <drkm> I used easyubuntu and installed it through that
[06:50] <intelikey> Nuked and you are doing this to update ff correct ?
[06:50] <drkm> took about 3 clicks
[06:50] <intelikey> !ff
[06:50] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:50] <drkm> brb
[06:50] <Nuked> no intelikey to get gaim encryption, latest avidemux and if I feel like it the new ff
[06:51] <intelikey> Nuked  k so you do this then install the new ff and ubuntu-desktop   it puts back everything in that list.
[06:51] <Nuked> excellent
[06:52] <Nuked> let me try this out
[06:52] <Nuked> you gonna stick around?
[06:52] <intelikey> and like i said that's not a big list.
[06:52] <intelikey> no not for very long.
[06:52] <Nuked> lo
[06:52] <Nuked> l
[06:52] <xsacha> what does "pinwheels" mean?
[06:54] <intelikey> you must have not read the lines 1 & 23   nuked.    the top 70% is not going to be removed....
[06:55] <Nuked> intelikey: good point
[06:55] <j_> errr, actually I need to get rid of the last four characters too
[06:55] <Nuked> @@!!
[06:57] <intelikey> j_ that would require something else if the lines are not all the same liength
[06:57] <intelikey> are they ?
[06:57] <j_> nope
[06:57] <j_> tried googling, couldn't find an answer
[06:58] <intelikey> sed is your answer
[06:58] <j_> tried googling, couldn't find an answer but I couldn't find the relevant part
[06:58] <intelikey> but as to the exact syntax....  i'd have to fiddle around with it.
[06:58] <j_> damn
[06:58] <j_> too early, hit the up arrow accidently
[07:00] <j_> found it
[07:00] <j_> maybe, this is untested apparently
[07:01] <xsacha> anyone know what  "pinwheels" mean?
[07:01] <j_> sed -e 's/.$//'
[07:01] <j_> I really don't understand regexp at all
[07:01] <xsacha> why not?
[07:01] <goodthing> hmm, debian does not help me any further, in fact the installtion stalls at "loading "ide-disk" for "Linux ATA DISK"
[07:02] <j_> well ok, here s stands for substite, . for any character and // is nothing
[07:02] <menteck> where is firefox at i cant find it
[07:02] <j_> how is that intuitive?
[07:02] <menteck> !firefox
[07:02] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:02] <j_> regexp is hieroglyphs basicly
[07:03] <j_> too short
[07:04] <goodthing> menteck: can not find what, to install or to run?
[07:04] <menteck> firefox i cant seeom to find it to run it
[07:05] <goodthing> menteck: K-menu->internet
[07:05] <menteck> its no there
[07:05] <menteck> it not there
[07:05] <goodthing> menteck: otherwise you could always do alt+F2 and type firefox there
[07:05] <menteck> thanx
[07:06] <menteck> did not find command
[07:06] <goodthing> menteck: or try running kbuildsycoca
[07:06] <goodthing> then firefox is either not installed or the system is messed up
[07:06] <menteck> i checked the packege system and it says it is installed
[07:07] <j_> hmm, didn't work
[07:07] <goodthing> menteck: what does "which firefox" tell you?
[07:07] <intelikey> j_ something like and you would want to test and adjust this...  sed 's/^....//g inputfile | sed 's/....$//g' > outputfile
[07:07] <menteck> what do you mean?
[07:08] <intelikey> and i know that it sould be one pass but didn't want to waste the time finding out how.
[07:08] <intelikey> should
[07:08] <goodthing> menteck: if you give that command in a terminal emulator (i.e. konsole) the system should show you your lath to run firefox
[07:08] <goodthing> *path
[07:09] <menteck> it say invalid command
[07:09] <menteck> command not found
[07:09] <intelikey> j_ that assumes unix line ends    if it's some outher markup  i'm not sure that $ will work.
[07:09] <goodthing> without the "?
[07:09] <j_> should be
[07:09] <Nuked> this has seriously made me think about switching distros
[07:10] <intelikey> j_ also  . per char   encluding white space.
[07:10] <menteck> where dos fire fox get intalled at
[07:10] <j_> thats ok
[07:10] <intelikey> did you try that   ?
[07:11] <menteck> sorry it is getting late here and i need to get some sleep so i will fix the towmmorw
[07:11] <j_> doesn't want to run
[07:11] <carutsu> hello
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Howdys
[07:12] <intelikey> echo '1234first and last4321' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'
[07:12] <Nuked> jeez, I think ubuntu is trying to give me a stroke
[07:12] <carutsu> i was playing a video in firefox (and also in Konqeuror) and the sound just
[07:12] <carutsu> is slower than the video
[07:12] <intelikey> j_ that test works here.
[07:13] <j_> I hit enter and it just changes the line
[07:13] <intelikey> then you missed a '  or used a `  either way it's a quote issue.
[07:14] <intelikey> copy and paste this line.
[07:14] <intelikey> echo '1234first and last4321' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'
[07:14] <j_> did that
[07:14] <intelikey> and it does work ?
[07:14] <j_> yep
[07:15] <intelikey> now use the last part of it to build your command.
[07:15] <intelikey> echo '1234first and last4321' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'
[07:15] <intelikey> oops
[07:15] <intelikey> sed 's/^....//g' inputfile | sed 's/....$//g' > outputfile
[07:15] <carutsu> since Intelikey is bussy isn't anyone else?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> is it a flash video? or embeded some other player type video....
[07:16] <carutsu> flash video
[07:16] <carutsu> thank you Dr_willis
[07:17] <carutsu> i tried to play it with Firefox and Konqueror to see if was one of them, however same problem with booth
[07:17] <j_> that did it! thanks a million intelikey
[07:17] <carutsu> actually is the linux video hosted in youtube n_n
[07:17] <Dr_willis> Flash has a lot of issues
[07:17] <Dr_willis> you sure its not the video thats  just messed up.,
[07:17] <Dr_willis> whats the url? ill check here.
[07:17] <carutsu> totally i played 2 videos
[07:17] <carutsu> let me ses...
[07:18] <carutsu> see
[07:18] <carutsu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZmJ63sHoKU
[07:18] <intelikey> i like sed and echo and bash ........  :)
[07:18] <intelikey> echo '1234first and last4321
[07:18] <intelikey> 1234 second stage 1234
[07:18] <intelikey>  1234 with spaces 4321
[07:18] <intelikey> ' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'
[07:18] <intelikey> theres a good test patern ^
[07:18] <j_> I'll save this for later use
[07:19] <Dr_willis> carutsu,  the sound is in sync here
[07:19] <carutsu> see, that is what i try to fix here
[07:20] <Dr_willis> carutsu,  ive seen that video included on some LiveCD's also. :) i forget which one.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> I tracked it down once to PROVE to a guy how to pronounce linux.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:20] <carutsu> i love that video n_N
[07:20] <carutsu> n_n
[07:20] <carutsu> it is just awsome
[07:21] <carutsu> lol
[07:21] <carutsu> carutsu remembers him that i'm still in troubles here
[07:21] <intelikey> Lee Nux
[07:21] <carutsu> lol, im sorry couldn't stop myself
[07:22] <Dr_willis> I seem to recall that comercial was shown during the superbowl halftime wasent it?
[07:22] <carutsu> what are you using for playing? what distro do you have?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Using Kubuntu,
[07:23] <intelikey> linus recorded a sound test file and said "i pronounce, linux Lee Nux"  and seeing that he wrote and named it, that must be the proper way.
[07:23] <Dr_willis> or did i install LinuxMint on this box..   I forget now...
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu, edgy eft, firefox 2.0
[07:23] <carutsu> like myself
[07:23] <carutsu> must be something else
[07:23] <carutsu> driver or something
[07:24] <Dr_willis> I do have a Nice Creative Audigy z2 card
[07:24] <carutsu> this is a laptop
[07:24] <Dr_willis> and rarely have ANY sound issues with anything. :)
[07:24] <intelikey> well if #kubuntu can't help with scanner problems where does one go ?
[07:24] <carutsu> hey btw is there a way to restore backspace to go back in the (is this word right) history
[07:25] <carutsu> in firefox?
[07:25] <intelikey> word is right
[07:25] <carutsu> right now it is like pg uo but i dislike that
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Ive herd theres a setting to do that.. but i never use that key... so never noticed...
[07:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:26] <carutsu> thank you, as you can see, english is not my native language
[07:26] <Dr_willis> others have asked the same question.. i just havent paid attention to the answer they get.
[07:26] <j_> perfect, managed to remove extra whitespace on my own, good day to you gentlemen/women
[07:27] <intelikey> mozilla used to put that in  edit > preferances > look&feel  or some such.
[07:28] <intelikey> ok i'm went.
[07:30] <idawood> Hi every one
[07:30] <[Relic] > I am thinking this section of the disk didn't get formatted
[07:30] <idawood> I need little help for Kubuntu 6.10
[07:31] <Dr_willis> hmm...
[07:31] <idawood> by default in storage media folder the hard drives (partitioned ) are mounted as hda5, hda7 etc
[07:32] <idawood> but in ubuntu the are mounted as same names as I named them in windows.
[07:32] <idawood> so it is possible to rename them or the should be mounted as the default names of window partitions
[07:33] <Dr_willis> 'in ubuntu' you mean in the  media:/  location in konqueror?
[07:33] <Dr_willis> media:/  I think uses the drives labels as a 'smarter name'   or you can  use "/media" to see them with their mount point names.
[07:33] <idawood> yes, actually you can see you Fat32 partitions on the desktop
[07:34] <Dr_willis> I dont see them on my desktop. :) i got them hidden. heh
[07:34] <idawood> where as in kubuntu it's are in storage media folder
[07:34] <idawood> that's what you chose :)
[07:34] <Dr_willis> I made a dir i call "Drives" with links to the drives i normally access. so i can name them what i want,.,. and give them custome icons
[07:34] <idawood> now can you please tell me how I can rename them, or the should be mounted as the name is windows like docs, softwares, songs
[07:35] <Dr_willis> Its a little odd how media:/ and /media differ.  You can change the hda7 or whatever you want  by editing the fstab.
[07:35] <idawood> etc
[07:35] <idawood> coz in hda7, hda8 kind of naming it's hard to remember which partition contains what
[07:35] <Dr_willis> if the drive label/name under windows was 'docs' i thought media:/ showed it as 'docs'
[07:35] <idawood> ok
[07:35] <Dr_willis> try entering 'media:/' in konqueror
[07:36] <Dr_willis> THEN try '/media'
[07:36] <idawood> how to edit fstab
[07:36] <Dr_willis> with a text editor.. and some skill. :)
[07:36] <idawood> yes you got my point now
[07:36] <idawood> it shows 'Docs' in ubuntu but not in kubuntu, in kubuntu it's showns as hda7
[07:37] <Dr_willis> You mean under GNOME in ubuntu?
[07:37] <idawood> hey doc
[07:37] <idawood> thanx man
[07:37] <idawood> THEN try '/media
[07:37] <Dr_willis> My C: is called 'WinBoot' under Kubuntu in the 'Media:/'  area
[07:37] <idawood> showed the same names as under windows
[07:37] <Dr_willis> its called 'hda1' under '/media'
[07:38] <idawood> what's the diffrence between both of them
[07:38] <Dr_willis>  /media is the name of the actial dir/mount points
[07:38] <idawood> media:/  shows window naming
[07:38] <Dr_willis> media: is trying to be 'smart'
[07:39] <Dr_willis> some times it fails very badly :)
[07:39] <Dr_willis> 'media:' is tecnkiocially a 'kioslave' that gives konqueror special features..
[07:40] <Dr_willis> worth looking into and learning about all the special kioslaves
[07:40] <Dr_willis> try 'apt:/'
[07:40] <Jucato> apt:/ man:/ help:/
[07:40] <Jucato> locate:/
[07:40] <Dr_willis> Im not sure why the 'system menu' i got gos to /media instead of media:/
[07:41] <Jucato> (btw, apt:/ is a Kubuntu-only kioslave)
[07:41] <idawood> what do you mean by fails very badly
[07:41] <idawood> is it unsafe to use
[07:41] <Jucato> Dr_willis: it has been changed in Edgy. all references to media:/ has been changed to /media
[07:41] <Dr_willis> if ya got 3 drives with no names.. well it can be confused.
[07:41] <[Relic] > is there a way to detemine what is on a HD mount?  I am getting the idea that this thing was never formatted since I keep getting errors when trying to mount it
[07:41] <Dr_willis> not hurting anything - its just not helpfull.
[07:41] <Dr_willis> which is why i did the links
[07:41] <Dr_willis> remote:/  is nice
[07:42] <Jucato> Dr_willis: actually, for some reasons, media:/ is hurting some... because it doesn't work across all apps, for one
[07:42] <Jucato> (by all, I mean both KDE and GNOME apps)
[07:42] <Jucato> there were other technical reasons. I just forgot them. and even the kde devs would agree, media:/ needs some work...
[07:44] <idawood> now I created a link to media:/ and named as MyDrivers
[07:44] <idawood> so it's very fine
[07:45] <idawood> my problem is solved until the media:/ won't be failed
[07:45] <idawood> I'm in IN
[07:45] <idawood> so i've to work on Solaris 9
[07:45] <Jucato> hm.. is there a way to direct dpkg to install to /usr/local?
[07:50] <binary2k2> Jucato: nope
[07:51] <goodthing> why is the debian installation dead slow and the ubuntu installation done in a sec?
[07:52] <goodthing> debian takes ages
[07:52] <binary2k2> debian installs more packages
[07:52] <goodthing> nah, i am only talking about loading ide stuff and detecting the hard disk
[07:52] <idawood> Obviously ubuntu has been pre compiled and made in packaged form
[07:53] <binary2k2> so is debian
[07:53] <machoo02> umm....ubuntu is based on debian
[07:53] <binary2k2> maybe the ubuntu guys tweeked the installer
[07:53] <Jucato> which installer?
[07:54] <idawood> ahan
[07:54] <idawood> no goodthing is talking about detecting ide stuff only
[07:54] <goodthing> Jucato: installer from the cd, the text-install
[07:54] <binary2k2> the debian installer, the one that loads all the udebs
[07:54] <Jucato> ah
[07:54] <Jucato> going... :(
[07:55] <idawood> may be DMA and things like that  are proper and pre configured to work quickly in Ubuntu
[07:55] <idawood> where as you have to do it yourself
[07:55] <goodthing> really insane, i am installing more than one hour already and the first package still needs to go written to my disk(?)
[07:55] <idawood> in debian
[07:55] <BrigadierFrog> is there an update-alternative for qt4?
[07:56] <idawood> why are you using debian? any specific reason for this brain storming :)
[07:56] <killeroy> heh, maybe you got the gentoo branch of Debian
[07:56] <binary2k2> :p
[07:57] <idawood> have you searched www.sourceforge.net and www.freshmeat.net for qt4
[07:57] <goodthing> lol
[07:58] <idawood> yea! most of average even advance users don't have to compile this debian stuff
[07:59] <idawood> but still it's much better than Solaris 9 :P
[08:00] <lakhia> Hi
[08:00] <killeroy> starwatcher - I see you use wildblue
[08:00] <goodthing> idawood: because i experienced problems with a three disk installation under kubuntu. I wanted to try the newer to see if that would fix anything here
[08:00] <killeroy> how do you like it?
[08:01] <lakhia> I just installed 6.10
[08:01] <goodthing> but it is starting to look like debian installation needs some custom command
[08:02] <goodthing> lakhia: and you like it?
[08:03] <lakhia> goodthing: yeah, much more than 5.04
[08:03] <lakhia> or was it 5.10
[08:03] <jbruckman> i'm having some problems with my audio. I imagine it's because I have a TV tuner card istalled, and it's classifying that as a sound device. I don't know how to make it detect and use my onboard sound card though. ANy help?
[08:03] <killeroy> speaking of 6.10 - has anyone else had an issue where their xorg config resets itself from time to time?
[08:03] <binary2k2> !sound | jbruckman
[08:03] <ubotu> jbruckman: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:04] <killeroy> occasionally it complains about not finding a correct mode for my monitor
[08:04] <lakhia> goodthing: i just have a few minor annoyances in kde
[08:04] <jbruckman> binary2k2: I'm pretty sure i've read those the last time i was bothering with this... and it led to nothing, but i'll look again
[08:04] <lakhia> goodthing: but overall I am pretty impressed
[08:04] <killeroy> as I had to muck around with my xorg.conf fle to get a 1280x1024 60Hz setting
[08:05] <goodthing> lakhia: 5.10, wasn't that breezy?
[08:05] <lakhia> goodthing: yeah, that's the one I had
[08:05] <lakhia> goodthing: I skipped dapper
[08:05] <goodthing> oh, then you missed the better versiob
[08:05] <goodthing> *version
[08:05] <goodthing> dapper rocks the most IMO
[08:05] <lakhia> goodthing: really?
[08:06] <goodthing> well, i might be biased seeing i have edgy only running for some days
[08:06] <lakhia> goodthing: Well, I wanted to try the faster boot times for edgy
[08:07] <jbruckman> aplay doesn't give me any output. what do I do now?
[08:07] <goodthing> yeah, that really is something nice :)
[08:07] <lakhia> goodthing: have had problems in the past few days?
[08:07] <killeroy> if I may chime in, despite some problems, I do like edgy a bit more than dapper
[08:07] <goodthing> lakhia: other than my new 750GB disk not a single issue
[08:07] <killeroy> then again that may be more the result of me liking KDE more than GNOME as I've only used Ubuntu dapper
[08:08] <killeroy> and am using Kubuntu Edgy
[08:08] <lakhia> goodthing: that's not bad
[08:08] <lakhia> killeroy: yeah, that can be a factor, definitely
[08:09] <idawood> goodthing: use kubuntu or ubuntu 6.10
[08:09] <lakhia> goodthing: so far no hardware problems with my dell inspiron laptop
[08:10] <goodthing> idawood: i do, but i wanted to install debian some day anyway
[08:10] <idawood> or there is another good distro if you are just like to try diffrent distros
[08:10] <goodthing> like? :)
[08:10] <idawood> that's freespire
[08:11] <goodthing> nope, would not do it for me i guess
[08:11] <idawood> ahan
[08:11] <lakhia> btw, what is a good video player for linux? I tried kaffiene and mplayer so far
[08:11] <killeroy> vlc?
[08:11] <idawood> they try debian
[08:11] <idawood> then*
[08:11] <lakhia> do dvd nav menus work in vlc?
[08:12] <idawood> installing debian give good hand on experience to linux
[08:12] <lakhia> i need something which my wife can use ... and mplayer doesn't cut it (guessing dvd://1 ... dvd://5 is too much for her)
[08:12] <killeroy> not really sure - I've not watched a DVD on my PC for a long time
[08:12] <idawood> vlc is good video player
[08:13] <idawood> you can try totem too
[08:13] <lakhia> what's the diff b/w the two?
[08:13] <matthew> idawood, or kaffeine, my personal favorite!
[08:13] <lakhia> tried finding reviews but no luck
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> !sound
[08:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:14] <goodthing> lakhia: you could try kmplayer, kaffeine and codeine, those i think are the most friendly
[08:14] <idawood> for most they are both videwo players
[08:14] <lakhia> I like kaffeine ... but it occasionally hanged in 5.10.
[08:14] <idawood> vlc is good to know to play most formats easily and efficiently
[08:14] <matthew> I had to killall kaffeine once under edgy, but no further problems...
[08:15] <idawood> it's light weight player
[08:15] <idawood> and works fine, quickly and efficiently
[08:15] <lakhia> ok, I guess I will stick with kaffeine for now and see how it goes
[08:15] <lakhia> hmm, thanks guys ... vlc sounds interesting too
[08:16] <idawood> if you need a player for DVD
[08:16] <killeroy> well I'm sure kaffeine has had quite a few improvements since 5.10
[08:16] <idawood> you can try LinDVD, if you can find it
[08:17] <idawood> yes it has
[08:18] <lakhia> lindvd is commercial and closed source, it seems from their web page
[08:18] <nixternal> wow, LinDVD is the biggest clunk of #@$)*$# out there, and lakhia is right, gotta pay for it and can't hack it
[08:19] <nixternal> i am using kaffeine right now to play dvds, but i am thinking about giving vlc another shot...mplayer used to play them and all of a sudden stopped doing so
[08:19] <idawood> so what do you think about which one is best audio player
[08:20] <lakhia> I've been using xmms ... but I hate it's interface if you need to do anything else besides playing
[08:20] <idawood> amarok is good
[08:20] <lakhia> wonder when xmms2 will be ready
[08:21] <killeroy> love amarok
[08:21] <idawood> freespire has Lsongs
[08:21] <lakhia> i tried using it once but never got hooked
[08:21] <idawood> am not sure if it's amarok based
[08:22] <idawood> ok
[08:22] <idawood> I just remembered I need a good image manager viewer
[08:22] <idawood> which one should I use
[08:23] <goodthing> idawood: looks like a combination of amarok with musikcube
[08:24] <idawood> any suggestion?
[08:24] <killeroy_gb> bah, such a wonky connection
[08:25] <idawood> goodthing: I'm talking about image viewer, manager
[08:25] <idawood> like ACDSee, Picasa for windows
[08:25] <idawood> Picasa for linux is also available but it works slow
[08:26] <lakhia> does digikam help with managing loads of pics?
[08:26] <idawood> it's preinstalled in Edgy
[08:26] <goodthing> idawood: and i about Lsongs. But what is wrong with gwenview?
[08:27] <lakhia> seems to support tags, comments, etc.
[08:27] <idawood> but it too loads pictures slowly
[08:28] <lakhia> oh, ok. Never used it. Am still hooked to Adobe's photoalbum. Need to kick the habit one of these days
[08:29] <lakhia> What about KPhotoAlbum (formerly named KimDaba)?
[08:31] <idawood> lakhia: didn't tried this one, is it good
[08:32] <lakhia> idawood: I haven't either. The kphotoalbum has testimonials and screenshots. Seems like it might do the job
[08:33] <lakhia> there is a 3minute video that shows how easy it is to tag pics
[08:33] <idawood> actually i need a light weight viewer which can quickly load and display pictures instead of loading with transitions
[08:34] <lakhia> that's what this looks like ... the interface is pretty simple.
[08:35] <idawood> ok I'll try it
[08:36] <lakhia> sounds good ... I think I'll give it a try too
[08:36] <lakhia> when I sit on my big iron desktop machine that has my picture collection
[08:38] <lakhia> anyone tried Feisty?
[08:39] <idawood> does amarok supports equalizer
[08:39] <manchicken> idawood: Yeah.  Tools->Equalizer.
[08:39] <lakhia> wow! which part?
[08:40] <lakhia> I'm too chicken to try it just yet
[08:40] <manchicken> The system settings proggy.  I can't get this thing to compile for the life of me.  heh.  I shouldn't be hacking so late on so little sleep.
[08:40] <manchicken> I've got it in a chroot, so there's no risk for me ^_^
[08:40] <lakhia> :)
[08:41] <manchicken> I'm going to bed in 15 minutes whether I'm done or not.
[08:41] <lakhia> i'm about to doze off here too and all I'm doing is typing
[08:42] <lakhia> I've been wanting to get started coding ... but just haven't gotten around to it
[08:43] <idawood> lakhia are you indian
[08:43] <lakhia> er, I mean coding on kde (I already code for work)
[08:43] <manchicken> What are you waiting for?
[08:43] <lakhia> idawood: close enuf ... Pakistani
[08:43] <manchicken> Get on it.
[08:44] <lakhia> I know ... I think it is just the initial hurdle so set things up etc
[08:44] <idawood> close enough :)
[08:44] <idawood> me too paki
[08:44] <lakhia> plus, I don't have a compelling itch to scratch
[08:44] <manchicken> lakhia: Setting up chroot to build is insanely simple.
[08:44] <manchicken> I'm scratching someone else's itch right now.
[08:44] <manchicken> he
[08:44] <manchicken> h
[08:44] <lakhia> idawood: cool!
[08:45] <lakhia> hehehe!
[08:45] <manchicken> This could be the last build of the night....
[08:45] <lakhia> is there a doc on how to do this? The only time I did chroot was for installing gentoo
[08:45] <idawood> :)
[08:46] <lakhia> idawood: so, dawood is your last name?
[08:47] <seven11> anyone an idea why some of the packages come back with an gzip error when i do apt-get update?
[08:47] <idawood> :) yes
[08:47] <lakhia> manchicken: I hope you got it to compile
[08:48] <manchicken> Me too.
[08:48] <seven11> why?
[08:48] <idawood> It's Imran Dawood
[08:48] <idawood> may be not zipped properly or may be not downloaded fully
[08:49] <lakhia> manchicken: congratz!
[08:49] <seven11> every time i do update it comes back with gzip error
[08:49] <seven11> Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[08:49] <idawood> change the repositiries
[08:49] <seven11> ?
[08:50] <idawood> try to main servers of ubutunu
[08:50] <idawood> try main servers of ubuntu
[08:50] <lakhia> replace au.archive with us.archive (in /etc/apt/sources.txt)
[08:51] <seven11> i choose au because it is closer but i will give us a try
[08:51] <lakhia> sorry, that's sources.list, not sources.txt
[08:51] <seven11> jo i guessed so
[08:51] <idawood> seven: you did right but the source you are using have corrupted gzip file
[08:51] <idawood> so it's better to try some other source repositry
[08:52] <idawood> ok Have to go
[08:52] <idawood> gotta go on job :(
[08:52] <lakhia> see you, Imran
[08:53] <lakhia> good luck with kphotoalbum
[08:53] <idawood> thanx every one
[08:53] <idawood> yea thanx :)
[08:53] <idawood> Bye
[08:53] <lakhia> any luck, seven11?
[08:54] <fribuntu> Hi all
[08:54] <lakhia> hi
[08:54] <killeroy> hello
[08:54] <fribuntu> What is the apt repository for the "bad" stuff like w32codecs or mscorettf, etc.?
[08:55] <seven11> jo lakhia works with us
[08:55] <seven11> thanks
[08:55] <lakhia> cool
[08:55] <lakhia> it's was idawood's idea ... :)
[08:55] <fribuntu> Is there something like "debian-multimedia.org" for kubuntu?
[08:56] <lakhia> fribuntu: did you try the universe multiverse repository?
[08:56] <fribuntu> lakhia: yep.
[08:56] <fribuntu> lakhia: It is not in there.
[08:57] <killeroy> perhaps its in one of the PLF repos
[08:57] <lakhia> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:57] <fribuntu> lakhia: Apparently it is so bad, they don't want it anywhere near the official packages.
[08:57] <fribuntu> lakhia: I know how to add repositories, I just don't know which repository to add.
[08:58] <lakhia> go to the site .. and paste everything in the box
[08:59] <lakhia> into an empty sources.list
[08:59] <lakhia> make a backup (just in case)
[08:59] <lakhia> doing that worked for me
[08:59] <fribuntu> killeroy: what is PLF? Do you have an URL?
[09:00] <killeroy> penguin liberation front
[09:00] <lakhia> I don't know which of those repositories has w2codes but one of them does
[09:01] <killeroy> url from ubuntuguide is as follows: deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/
[09:01] <fribuntu> lakhia: Aha, there are PLF repositories listed in your box.
[09:01] <fribuntu> killeroy: thanks!
[09:01] <lakhia> fribuntu: ok, maybe that's the one (I knew one of them had it)
[09:02] <firebird619> Could someone help me? I am trying to install kdenlive, but it says Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.7) but 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 is to be installed. IT also says the same for other packages. How can I fix this?
[09:03] <lakhia> well, going to bed
[09:03] <lakhia> good night guys
[09:03] <killeroy> night
[09:08] <xsacha> damn i so want this patch in: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/60726
[09:20] <crimsun_> xsacha: doesn't seem relevant in feisty.
[09:22] <seven11> anyone knows a program which can make on pdf file out of many single ones?
[09:22] <xsacha> crimsun_: aiglx supports pixel shaders in feisty?
[09:23] <crimsun_> xsacha: I can't seem to find that error message in the logs.
[09:23] <unix_infidel> seven11: the only possible way i can think of is to import via OO.org and then export as one pdf
[09:23] <unix_infidel> otherwise get Acrobat 7 Pro for Win32.
[09:24] <unix_infidel> I beleive even cxoffice supports it.
[09:24] <seven11> i tryed OO but it couldn't read the pdf file
[09:24] <unix_infidel> seven11: then use acrobat pro.
[09:24] <seven11> free?
[09:24] <unix_infidel> is it all text?
[09:25] <unix_infidel> seven11: of course not, its like 400 dollar software :)
[09:25] <seven11> :(
[09:25] <seven11> nop thanks
[09:25] <seven11> i will find another way
[09:25] <unix_infidel> seven11: if its all just basically rich text export it to a more usable file.
[09:25] <unix_infidel> if its not i'm sure openoffice can find a way to open it.
[09:25] <seven11> i will give it another try
[09:26] <seven11> i will post it here if i find a way
[09:26] <unix_infidel> win32 has a lot of novel pdf manip methods.
[09:27] <xsacha> crimsun_: logs of what?
[09:28] <xsacha> no error, just pixel shaders arent available..    glxinfo -i | grep fragment_program
[09:30] <crimsun_> xsacha: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors
[09:30] <xsacha> crimsun_: using aiglx? what output of glxinfo -i | grep fragment_program      on feisty?
[09:31] <christiane> Hello. How can I define the ID of a partition? cfdisk, sfdik?
[09:31] <crimsun_> xsacha: nothing relevant.
[09:31] <xsacha> k, that patch needs to be added
[09:33] <shinobi2> hi
[09:38] <tbe> Hiloo everyone
[09:42] <tamacracker> Hey guys...
[09:42] <tamacracker> Where's my Screen shot program located?
[09:42] <tamacracker> It's not under the Utilities option >.>
[09:42] <matthew> tamacracker, the printscreen button.
[09:42] <Jucato> tamacracker: K Menu -> Graphics -> KSnapshot
[09:42] <tamacracker> I can just hit the print screen
[09:42] <tamacracker> oh ok Jucato
[09:42] <matthew> lol
[09:43] <tamacracker> i didn't know Linux had that option like Windows >.>
[09:43] <Jucato> of course you can hit the Print Screen button
[09:43] <tamacracker> Ha... sweet
[09:43] <tamacracker> >.> Newbs tend to be scared of new things maybe? ha
[09:43] <tamacracker> Thanks matthew and Jucato
[09:43] <matthew> tamacracker, I'm kind of the quick and dirty kind of guy...why bother with the program name when there's a button? lol
[09:44] <tamacracker> I know, shortcuts are always better
[09:44] <tamacracker> I just didn't know it worked lol
[09:44] <kilrae> it's new
[09:45] <matthew> now if I could get my windows button to pop up the Kmenu...
[09:45] <tamacracker> Yeah that would be sweet!
[09:46] <matthew> I know I can, I'm just too lazy to figure it out...lol
[09:46] <tamacracker> ha
[09:46] <tamacracker> yeah key shortcuts
[09:46] <matthew> anyone have any ideas?
[09:47] <Jucato> google?
[09:47] <unix_infidel> use a wm and not a de :P
[09:47] <matthew> Jucato, or something...
[09:47] <matthew> like...enlightenment?
[09:47] <Jucato> the disadvantage of mapping Win key for the K Menu alone, is that you can't use it for anything else
[09:47] <unix_infidel> ew, no.
[09:47] <tamacracker> :D
[09:48] <tamacracker> Yeah... like Beryl
[09:48] <matthew> Jucato, but I'm not using it for anything now...
[09:48] <unix_infidel> w00t
[09:48] <tamacracker> Beryl uses it with some of their eyecandies
[09:48] <tamacracker> >.> is that an old keyboard?
[09:48] <unix_infidel> tamacracker: no, of course not.
[09:48] <matthew> tamacracker, I've got a rage 128 pro w/ NO 3d/OpenGL...really sucks, but I'm working on getting an nvidia...
[09:48] <tamacracker> or just one specifically without am.
[09:48] <Jucato> matthew: then time to use it for something :)
[09:49] <unix_infidel> tamacracker: no, i'll give you a hint though.
[09:49] <tamacracker> nvidia = niiice
[09:49] <Jucato> besides, why use the K Menu when you can use Katapult :)
[09:49] <tamacracker> Mac?
[09:49] <matthew> tamacracker, it's a 104 key keyboard.
[09:49] <unix_infidel> It's the same keyboard the Creator of Facebook.com and the BSD dev's use :)
[09:49] <tamacracker> ha
[09:49] <tamacracker> Jucato... very tru.
[09:49] <unix_infidel> no joke either :)
[09:49] <matthew> unix_infidel, I bet you want me to use compiz or glx...huh?
[09:49] <Jucato> dvorak?
[09:50] <unix_infidel> matthew: i use X primarily to spawn $TERMs
[09:50] <unix_infidel> so flux works fairly well for me.
[09:50] <matthew> unix_infidel, nice. I used fluxbox for a while, very very minimal, very nice. I liked it for old, old machines...
[09:50] <unix_infidel> i like it for fast machines.
[09:51] <unix_infidel> go figure, get work done quickly so i can go play :)
[09:51] <matthew> unix_infidel, I like mah eye-candy
[09:51] <matthew> unix_infidel, fortunately, I don't work with my machine!
[09:51] <unix_infidel> matthew: no problem with eye candy.  WE just have TOTALLY different views on the definition of eye candy!
[09:51] <matthew> at least, not this one.
[09:51] <matthew> unix_infidel, so, in your view, would a tool-bar be eyecandy?
[09:51] <matthew> lol
[09:52] <unix_infidel> Like I said, i like minimalist get work done ennvironment so I can go play.
[09:52] <unix_infidel> Then its eye candy time :)
[09:52] <matthew> unix_infidel, what're you running?
[09:52] <matthew> specs, please
[09:52] <unix_infidel> matthew: lots of stuff.
[09:52] <matthew> proc, hdd, mobo, gfx...etc...lol
[09:52] <unix_infidel> anywhere from 500mhz p3, to dual g5 powermac to 8 way xeon.
[09:53] <pulltab> Isn't there somehow someway to open a rar file in kubuntu?
[09:53] <matthew> unix_infidel, I've got this old P3 900Mhz box w/ 512 RAM
[09:53] <tamacracker> All I need is a dock... and I'm satisfied with workspeed.
[09:53] <matthew> unix_infidel, whoa, Xeon!?!?!
[09:53] <tamacracker> pulltab
[09:53] <pulltab> yes?
[09:53] <tamacracker> open Adept Manager
[09:53] <digitalfreedom> aight dewds girls im trying to install nmap with the X GUI front end and im getting this error saying that i have no gtk installed but im sure as i just used adept to get it anycertain gtk i should get?
[09:53] <fdoving> pulltab: you need to install unrar i guess.
[09:53] <pulltab> ok...
[09:53] <fdoving> !unrar-nonfree
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <tamacracker> and download unrar non-free version
[09:53] <unix_infidel> or you can use 7zip :)
[09:54] <tamacracker> I'm sure you have Ark.
[09:54] <fdoving> 7zip fails on some .rars, works on most though..
[09:54] <sukh> hi
[09:54] <matthew> digitalfreedom, try this: sudo apt-get install nmap
[09:54] <digitalfreedom> i did that
[09:54] <matthew> oh
[09:54] <matthew> lol
[09:54] <digitalfreedom> but i want to try the GUI
[09:54] <sukh> anyone know how to stop the bouncing icon beside the mouse when you start an app?
[09:54] <unix_infidel> fdoving: is correct unfortunately, its designed to handle 7z but its fairly versatile as it is.
[09:54] <matthew> the GNOME desktop?
[09:54] <digitalfreedom> KDE
[09:54] <digitalfreedom> oh lol not me
[09:54] <matthew> digitalfreedom, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <tamacracker> I like the bouncing icon :(
[09:55] <tamacracker> :D
[09:55] <digitalfreedom> i have KDE
[09:55] <matthew> digitalfreedom, do you want to use GNOME?
[09:55] <sukh> its so anoying
[09:55] <digitalfreedom> its not that let me find the error..no im not up for GNOME
[09:55] <matthew> digitalfreedom, ok
[09:55] <tamacracker> but honestly, I don't know how to get rid of the bouncing icon.
[09:55] <sukh> :(
[09:55] <digitalfreedom> nmapfe.c:114:2: error: #error "Your system does not appear to have GTK (www.gtk.                                                                                                   org) installed.  Thus the Nmap X Front End will not compile.
[09:55] <matthew> It's under system settings
[09:56] <matthew> I know that much
[09:56] <matthew> lol
[09:56] <unix_infidel> lol.
[09:56] <matthew> not you, digitalfreedom
[09:56] <sukh> too many settings..ive gone through it twice and i acnt find it
[09:56] <matthew> digitalfreedom, umm, no idea...sorry
[09:56] <digitalfreedom> sukh: diffrent theme maybe?
[09:56] <digitalfreedom> me neither
[09:56] <digitalfreedom> i jsut got all the XML gui and C++ gtk bindings
[09:56] <fdoving> sukh: k -> run command 'kcmshell kcmlaunch'
[09:57] <digitalfreedom> its not working
[09:57] <digitalfreedom> :(
[09:57] <digitalfreedom> time for some single malt whiskey
[09:57] <unix_infidel> make it a double.
[09:57] <sukh> awsome thanks, any clue as to how you found that?
[09:58] <fdoving> sukh: i know it's there. for more options than the ones available in system settings you can use the kde control center. K -> Run Command -> 'kcontrol'
[09:58] <unix_infidel> fdoving: how hard has it been getting new people ubuntu cloaks lately?
[09:58] <matthew> you can also run that from the cli
[09:58] <sukh> thanks once again...time to go to bed. :)
[09:59] <fdoving> sukh: also.. in a terminal, you can run 'kcmshell --list' to get a complete list of modules.
[10:00] <fdoving> unix_infidel: no idea. i'm not into those things.
[10:00] <unix_infidel> fdoving: I took a shot :)
[10:00] <matthew>  unix_infidel, what are unix cloaks?
[10:00] <matthew> I mean, ubuntu cloaks.
[10:01] <fdoving> !cloak
[10:01] <ubotu> Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[10:01] <matthew> ah
[10:02] <matthew> unix_infidel, do you need one?
[10:02] <unix_infidel> matthew: do i need a cloak, no.  I already have one.
[10:02] <matthew> ah, ok.
[10:02] <matthew> I really don't see the point if I'm not visiting "adult" sites...lol
[10:03] <matthew> maybe if I was ssh'ing somewhere...
[10:03] <fdoving> it's for IRC only.
[10:03] <unix_infidel> matthew: I think you misunderstand the definition.
[10:03] <digitalfreedom> im so in dep-hell right now
[10:03] <digitalfreedom> :(
[10:03] <matthew> digitalfreedom, use synaptic
[10:03] <unix_infidel> digitalfreedom: running red hat eh?
[10:03] <unix_infidel> :)
[10:03] <matthew> sudo apt-get install synaptic...
[10:03] <crystal> can someone help me?
[10:03] <matthew> !someone
[10:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:03] <tamacracker> so gettin cloak is actually a good thing eh?
[10:04] <tamacracker> Beneficial?
[10:04] <matthew> crystal, what can we do for you?
[10:04] <unix_infidel> tamacracker: like most all things it a matter of convention.
[10:04] <tamacracker> convention?
[10:04] <matthew> unix_infidel, or conviction, lol
[10:04] <crystal> I cannot get the driver for my video card installed to support 3d acceleration
[10:04] <tamacracker> lol
[10:04] <crystal> or installed right period
[10:05] <tamacracker> oh wit
[10:05] <tamacracker> wait*
[10:05] <matthew> crystal, what is the graphics card, which driver, where did you get it, and what OS?
[10:05] <tamacracker> cloak is for IRC.
[10:05] <digitalfreedom> i am mat
[10:05] <digitalfreedom> unix i mean
[10:05] <digitalfreedom> pango geezz
[10:06] <tamacracker> <,< I wish I could listen to AM radio stations
[10:06] <crystal> ati radeon x200m, fglrx, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665, kubuntu edgy
[10:06] <tamacracker> on pc that is.
[10:06] <pulltab> When Ever I try to unrar a RAR in ARC it show error "
[10:06] <pulltab> The utility unrar is not in your PATH.
[10:06] <pulltab> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[10:07] <matthew> hmmm, ATI is def a hard one to play with...I honestly can't help much, sorry.
[10:07] <Jucato> pulltab: install the package "unrar"
[10:07] <tamacracker> pulltab...
[10:07] <tamacracker> i just gave you instructions.
[10:07] <tamacracker> open up Adept Manager
[10:07] <pulltab> I have a file called unrar that has a icon like a gear, and I've tried putting it every path I can think of
[10:07] <Jucato> pulltab: from multiverse, or "unrar-free" (from universe)
[10:07] <tamacracker> type in unrar
[10:07] <digitalfreedom> well i got bigger problems now thunderbird wont open nor firefox the icons went away and replaced with the "gear"
[10:07] <pulltab> there is no package unrar
[10:07] <tamacracker> and use unrar non-free version >.>
[10:07] <pulltab> BRB
[10:07] <Jucato> .....
[10:07] <tamacracker> oh maybe you need to change your adept settings
[10:07] <digitalfreedom> more single malt whiskey by the bottoe full is now called for
[10:08] <matthew> crystal, ok, so, what part of the instruction didn't work?
[10:08] <matthew> I'm looking at the page now
[10:09] <crystal> when i run the glxinfo | grep direct it says that the display cannot be loaded (null)
[10:09] <digitalfreedom> what does malformatted mean?
[10:09] <matthew> crystal, try running glxgears from the Command Prompt...what happens?
[10:10] <matthew> crystal, also, what is the error that you get?
[10:10] <crystal> Error: couldn't open display (null)
[10:10] <crystal> for both
[10:10] <matthew> crystal, yeah, sorry, shoulda seen that...
[10:10] <digitalfreedom> malformatted anyone?
[10:10] <crystal> is ok
[10:10] <matthew> !pastebin | crystal
[10:10] <ubotu> crystal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:11] <matthew> crystal, paste your xorg.conf there, please
[10:11] <digitalfreedom> he piped crystal
[10:11] <digitalfreedom> lol
[10:11] <pulltab> synaptic has 0 results for "unrar"
[10:11] <digitalfreedom> gtk just killed my computer
[10:11] <digitalfreedom> awsome
[10:11] <matthew> crystal, then tell me the url of the page...
[10:13] <crystal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37303/
[10:13] <matthew> crystal, ok, h/o
[10:15] <matthew> crystal, I assume you've rebooted?
[10:15] <crystal> yes i have\
[10:15] <matthew> crystal, ok, I'm out of ideas...sorry
[10:15] <matthew> anyone else have anything to add?
[10:16] <crystal> well thank you for your help i will look into the other irc
[10:16] <matthew> ok, good luck, crystal
[10:26] <digitalfreedom> well that sucked
[10:26] <digitalfreedom> i got gtk stuff and lost firefox
[10:26] <digitalfreedom> and thunderbird
[10:26] <digitalfreedom> had to reinstal lthem both
[10:27] <digitalfreedom> o.0
[10:27] <mats> reinstalling? :p
[10:27] <digitalfreedom> had too
[10:27] <mats> hehe, strange
[10:27] <digitalfreedom> the shortcut i clicked on said they were malformatted
[10:27] <digitalfreedom> LOL
[10:28] <digitalfreedom> it worked fine till i got the gtk stuff
[10:28] <digitalfreedom> and pango
[10:28] <digitalfreedom> bleh
[10:29] <llutz> Moin
[10:29] <mats> digitalfreedom: heh - now you blowed my mind :p
[10:29] <mats> thats not tipical
[11:09] <sbonete> hello everyone
[11:09] <volo> cawte je ut niekto zo slovenska??
[11:09] <nuxil> Hello guys
[11:09] <volo> slovakia?
[11:10] <nuxil> volo, no norway
[11:10] <zorglu_> !sl
[11:10] <ubotu> sl: Correct you if you type `sl' by mistake. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-14 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 132 kB
[11:11] <zorglu_> moauoaua :)
[11:11] <volo> slovakiaaaaaaa je ut niekto???
[11:11] <nuxil> im trying to get the output from  nc -vvn -z 192.168.1.1 79-81   to be out into a file.. but it doesnt work anyone have a idea why? pipe it with > File doesnt help
[11:12] <volo> slovakia help
[11:12] <aspianatte> good morning!
[11:12] <nuxil> G'Day
[11:12] <aspianatte> someone of you have 64 bit instaled?
[11:13] <nuxil> me
[11:13] <aspianatte> i can't see video in real player!
[11:13] <zorglu_> volo, what is the language code for slovakia ? .uk, .fr etc.. this kind of stuff
[11:13] <nuxil> use mplayer
[11:13] <aspianatte> umm
[11:13] <volo> slovakia?,,
[11:13] <aspianatte> mplayer can handel ram files?
[11:13] <nuxil> yes
[11:13] <zorglu_> aspianatte: some of them yes
[11:13] <aspianatte> i have tried to paste a link address bun it doesn't play
[11:14] <aspianatte> i have googled for real player test page and then from there i have tried to play some
[11:14] <aspianatte> there is audio but no vieo
[11:14] <aspianatte> bideo
[11:14] <nuxil> aspianatte, what address ?
[11:14] <aspianatte> wait a minute
[11:14] <zorglu_> !codecs | aspianatte
[11:14] <ubotu> aspianatte: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:15] <zorglu_> aspianatte: did you follow those tutorials ?
[11:15] <aspianatte> i have red that page one miliion times don't give me anymore that address
[11:15] <aspianatte> ahh
[11:15] <aspianatte> i'm sercik
[11:15] <nuxil> aspianatte, give me the add.. and i'll check if mplayer plays it
[11:16] <sercik> nuxil http://service.real.com/test/
[11:16] <volo> slovesnko
[11:16] <zorglu_> !loco | volo
[11:16] <ubotu> volo: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[11:16] <kraut> moin
[11:17] <volo> hm....
[11:18] <nuxil> sercik, :) it players
[11:18] <nuxil> *plays
[11:18] <sercik> nuxil i'm disappointed :(( i don't want to use linux anymore!
[11:18] <sercik> what distribuction do you use?
[11:18] <zorglu_> volo: this is a english speaking channel, there are many channel in other language, try #ubuntu-fr but replace -fr by your country/language
[11:18] <nuxil> sercik, install ,mplayer and the codecs
[11:19] <sercik> i heve installed
[11:19] <nuxil> then you will be fine
[11:19] <volo> zorglu thanks
[11:19] <sercik> the codec? what do you mean exctly?
[11:19] <zorglu_> sercik: that's fine, ubuntu want you to be happy. if you dont want to use ubuntu, ubuntu wont force you to
[11:19] <sercik> zorglu_ : what do you say?
[11:20] <zorglu_> sercik: you have the complete right not to use linux
[11:20] <sercik> you must convince people tp use linux
[11:20] <zorglu_> sercik: ubuntu people respect that and wont try to force you
[11:20] <sercik> nuxil what do you mean with the codecs?
[11:20] <zorglu_> no i dont :)
[11:21] <zorglu_> forcing people is not part of ubuntu policy
[11:21] <allan__> no you show them linux but like methey are so used to windows not an easy task
[11:21] <sercik> nuxil please tell e which version of mplayer and which codecs?
[11:21] <nuxil> libxine-extracodecs
[11:22] <sercik> so i will try
[11:22] <zorglu_> sercik: on the other hand, if you want to use linux, we will be glag to help you :)
[11:22] <sercik> i know zorglu_
[11:22] <sercik> you are a good boy!
[11:22] <zorglu_> cool :)
[11:22] <zorglu_> sercik: so have you made your decision ?
[11:22] <sercik> zorglu_ i use linux from many years
[11:23] <sercik> i'm not w newbye
[11:23] <zorglu_> sercik: ?
[11:23] <sercik> i use linux from long time
[11:23] <sercik> i think that the problem is using a 64 bit version
 nuxil i'm disappointed :(( i don't want to use linux anymore! <- i was talking about this sentence
[11:23] <zorglu_> not about the time you use linux
[11:24] <nuxil> sercik, if you haved used linux forlong time.. you should learn to use the wiki's howto's and google more TO :)'
[11:24] <allan__> inly now linux ubuntu - suse- mephis- mandriva -knoppix - puppylinux -pc bsd - ect too many ossses for people to ty being pc made for windows not linux
[11:24] <sercik> no no but i was joking
[11:24] <zorglu_> sercik: ah ok, sorry the ':
[11:25] <sercik> nuxil if i'm here...
[11:25] <zorglu_> ponction was unclear
[11:25] <sercik> i 'm not able to solve the problem
[11:25] <allan__> first time i got this koversation goin looks ok so far
[11:25] <zorglu_> sercik: as you want to use linux, you can read video by following those tutorial
[11:25] <nuxil> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[11:25] <zorglu_> !codecs | sercik
[11:25] <ubotu> sercik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:25] <sercik> nooooooo
[11:25] <nuxil> yes
[11:25] <sercik> that tutorial is for 32 bit
[11:25] <zorglu_> sercik: the xine extracodec are part of the tutorial
[11:25] <sercik> and not 64 bit
[11:26] <zorglu_> ah ok
[11:26] <nuxil> shit.. want this to work or not
[11:26] <allan__> I buy LFX  magazinre from england here in australia
[11:26] <sercik> and then i have followed that tutorial i have installed real player it play files but i don't see video
[11:26] <zorglu_> sercik: well current 64bit is not really perfectly supported :)
[11:26] <nuxil> sercik, im telling you to apt-get install libxine-extracodecs to make it work
[11:26] <allan__> 64 bit still not fully supported by xp or vista yet :)
[11:26] <sercik> don't make me stupid, please!
[11:27] <ZeuGiRDoR> today, when I try to send a file throught bluetooth, this message appears: "Error connecting transport". What's wrong?
[11:27] <allan__> signal lost
[11:27] <sercik> su do you have 64 bit installed
[11:27] <zorglu_> sercik: so if you use 64bit you will frequently run into trouble.
[11:27] <sercik> and you visit that site with konqueror?
[11:27] <bxnp> clear
[11:27] <allan__> even microsoft games arew not all 64 bit supported an im a heavy gamer
[11:28] <allan__> i got on my pc windows on a 40gig hdd bios boot to a 20 gig for ubuntu with edubuntu works well
[11:29] <sercik> nuxil why do you abandon me? only two question i want to ask!!
[11:29] <nuxil> sercik, i have 64 bit
[11:29] <allan__> any 1 find linux nowdays finds u r internet connections 5 times fasrer than windows
[11:30] <allan__> i mean locates all connetions better lol
[11:30] <sercik> do you visit that site with konqueror?
[11:30] <nuxil> sercik, i visit the site with firefox.
[11:30] <sercik> ah
[11:30] <nuxil> sercik, then the mozilla-mplayer plugin kicks in
[11:30] <sercik> firefox 64 bit?
[11:30] <allan__> all sites u must use a browser lol
[11:30] <nuxil> sercik, im running firefox 2 beta atm
[11:31] <nuxil> i havent upgraded :p
[11:31] <sercik> ok
[11:31] <allan__> this is only a text based chat service
[11:32] <nuxil> allan__, nooo is it true?
[11:32] <nuxil> allan__, :P
[11:35] <sercik> goodbye see you soon
[11:38] <linux8> halo
[11:39] <linux8> now i can't open "add/remove program"
[11:39] <vado> Re
[11:40] <linux8> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[11:41] <mats> linux8: it says what you have to do
[11:41] <linux8> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt# edit sources.list~
[11:41] <linux8> Warning: unknown mime-type for "sources.list~" -- using "application/*"
[11:41] <linux8> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[11:42] <Admiral_Chicago> in a terminal
[11:42] <Admiral_Chicago> err it says that
[11:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: ping.
[11:45] <Admiral_Chicago> great. thanks Feisty for that restart.
[11:59] <bxnp> is there already a fix for mounting under kde 3.5.5
[11:59] <klaus> hello!  gphoto2 can download images from the cam, but only as root ... any Idea how a user can download with gphoto2?
[11:59] <bxnp> cause its not mounting my cdrom and usb stick anymore
[11:59] <bxnp> make a camera group and you as a user to that group klaus
[12:00] <klaus> thank you, bxnp, i try!
[12:01] <bxnp> or maybe there is already an camera group klaus
[12:01] <bxnp> but you have to make that group with the right persmissions
[12:01] <klaus> threre was no camera group in /etc/group
[12:02] <klaus> now, there is a new group camera in /etc/groups and user is klaus, which permissions do i set where?
[12:02] <klaus>  /etc/group i ment
[12:03] <klaus> just adding the new group, doesnt work
[12:03] <klaus> dont i have to associate this group with the usb-device ?
[12:03] <bxnp> ehm no i dont think so you have to give it the right rights to acces the device
[12:04] <bxnp> and then add  your user to that group and other users who should access the camera with gphoto
[12:04] <klaus> ok, the last part is clear, but what means "right rights" ?
[12:04] <bxnp> or maybe there is an configuration option within gphoto to configure it so you can use it as non root
[12:04] <bxnp> acces rights
[12:04] <bxnp> for example
[12:04] <bxnp> 700
[12:05] <klaus> 700 for /proc/bus/usb ?
[12:05] <bxnp> your normal user seems to have not sufficient rights to acces the camera
[12:06] <klaus> i agree your diagnosis
[12:06] <klaus> the normal user has no sufficent rights
[12:06] <CainMadness> Having trouble downloading updates with Adept, keeps erroring out on one of the packages. What do I do?
[12:06] <klaus> but rights for what ? for /proc/bus/usb ?
[12:07] <bxnp> wait klaus
[12:08] <bxnp> btw klaus you use gphoto
[12:08] <bxnp> why dont you use a program like digikam
[12:08] <klaus> normally i like to use digikam
[12:08] <bxnp> wich uses gphoto as it back ends
[12:08] <klaus> but digikam runs with use rights. it detects the cam, but cannot download the images
[12:09] <klaus> gphoto2 is runable as  root, and this worked.
[12:09] <digitalfreedom> whats a good linux firewall m8's?
[12:10] <jezovi> hello
[12:10] <jezovi> :))
[12:10] <digitalfreedom> hey jez
[12:10] <klaus> digitalfreedom: mabye you mean iptables?
[12:10] <digitalfreedom> no i mean a firewall
[12:10] <Admiral_Chicago> digitalfreedom: firestarter
[12:11] <digitalfreedom> aweet than Admiral
[12:11] <digitalfreedom> adept have it?
[12:11] <circ> can i do a quick question?
[12:11] <Admiral_Chicago> should have it
[12:11] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask | circ
[12:11] <cheez_doodles> digitalfreedom: iptables
[12:11] <digitalfreedom> sweet :)
[12:11] <ubotu> circ: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:11] <digitalfreedom> you piped circ
[12:11] <circ> ok how do you make the 'taskbar' icons smaller in the panel?
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> circ: resize the panel+
[12:12] <digitalfreedom> right click on it then click on configure panle
[12:12] <stamen> !MSXML
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MSXML - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <stamen> hi
[12:13] <stamen> who works with wine
[12:13] <stamen> or nobody here ?:)
[12:13] <digitalfreedom> wine is kewl
[12:13] <digitalfreedom> i use it for a few things
[12:13] <klaus> bxnp: do you have an idea where i have to set the right access rights for the usb-camera ?
[12:13] <circ> theres no option to make them smaller
[12:13] <digitalfreedom> size man size
[12:13] <bxnp> klaus: wait a sec
[12:13] <circ> the size is large right now, but ive seen huge panels where the icons were tiny
[12:13] <klaus> ok
[12:13] <cyril_> yop
[12:13] <Lynoure> stamen: are you looking for the number of people for statistics? If not, try asking your actual question instead
[12:14] <digitalfreedom> or maybe try a diff theme?
[12:14] <Bubba_Gump> !anyone
[12:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:14] <stamen> I wnat to ask, how to install MSXML4 for wine
[12:15] <digitalfreedom> firestarter installed zawsome
[12:15] <shosho> hi all any one here know about python
[12:16] <Ace2016> There is something wrong with my /etc/fstab
[12:16] <bxnp> i have it klaus sec
[12:16] <Ace2016> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37325/
[12:16] <bxnp> http://gphoto.org/doc/manual/permissions-usb.html
[12:16] <circ> themes dont make a difference
[12:16] <Ace2016> what are those radom long uuids?
[12:16] <bxnp> here is your answer take a look at it
[12:16] <klaus> thank you bxnp!
[12:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Ace2016: edgy?
[12:17] <bxnp> i am reading it aswell so if you have more question's just pop it
[12:17] <Hobbsee> Ace2016: they're fine you can leave them
[12:17] <stamen> how to fix this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37328/
[12:17] <Ace2016> Hobbsee: but i need to remove them
[12:17] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, they make for a more robust fstab iirc
[12:17] <Ace2016> Hobbsee: i'm trying to run initng and its failing
[12:17] <Hobbsee> Ace2016: what for?
[12:17] <klaus> ok
[12:17] <Hobbsee> urgh
[12:17] <circ> oh well
[12:17] <Ace2016> Hobbsee: so can i remove them without breaking the system?
[12:17] <Hobbsee> so then just use /dev/hda# like the line above was
[12:18] <Hobbsee> it might break in the future
[12:18] <circ> what do i need to install to configure screen settings like resolution?
[12:18] <Hobbsee> circ: intel card?
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> !res | circ
[12:18] <ubotu> circ: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:18] <Ace2016> Hobbsee: i was about to but i wanted to know if there was a reason for the use of uuid
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> that?
[12:18] <Hobbsee> !uuid
[12:18] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[12:18] <Hobbsee> Ace2016: ^
[12:18] <stamen> how to fix this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37328/
[12:19] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat | stamen
[12:19] <ubotu> stamen: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:19] <circ> well no not the x window, kde had a tool to shift resolutions and so on
[12:19] <Admiral_Chicago> stamen: it's fine, it's not an error.
[12:19] <circ> i did a base install, but have no idea what that pack is called
[12:20] <shosho> hi
[12:20] <shosho> hi all any one here know about python
[12:20] <stamen> Admiral_Chicago:  I know, but do you know how to make this not to appear
[12:20] <Hobbsee> circ: kde-guidance, iirc
[12:20] <stamen> when I am upgrading
[12:20] <Admiral_Chicago> stamen: you're on edgy right?
[12:20] <stamen> yes
[12:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i have no idea, it always happened with me
[12:20] <stamen> :)
[12:21] <Admiral_Chicago> it's not an error, it just appeared
[12:21] <Hobbsee> stamen: in feisty, they hope to have an update manager.  just run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" again
[12:21] <circ> thanks
[12:21] <stamen> as I see this version makes a lot of headakes
[12:21] <Hobbsee> actualyl, that's standard for a dist-upgrade
[12:21] <Hobbsee> (python transition caused that)
[12:21] <stamen> Hobbsee: after making this, all is the same
[12:21] <shosho> any one here know about python
[12:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !lts
[12:21] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:22] <bxnp> klaus: is it off any help
[12:22] <klaus> bxnp: i am reading it
[12:22] <bxnp> oke
[12:22] <Ace2016> bye all
[12:22] <Hobbsee> shosho: the people in #python do
[12:23] <shosho> i cant get there
[12:23] <shosho> i have a message u need to be identified
[12:23] <Hobbsee> use /j #python
[12:24] <shosho> i did
[12:24] <Hobbsee> really?
[12:24] <Admiral_Chicago> try right clicking
[12:24] <Admiral_Chicago> might be only registered nicks too
[12:24] <shosho> so ??
[12:25] <Hobbsee> !register
[12:25] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:25] <Hobbsee> shosho: you need to register with freenode, then you can join
[12:25] <digitalfreedom> how can i make nmap show ALL the open ports on a target?
[12:25] <digitalfreedom> --open?
[12:25] <lazarus__> Im trying to mount a samba remote share locally, with absolutely no success. can anyone help?
[12:29] <klaus> bxnp: which section is for me? the hotplog section ?
[12:29] <klaus> bxnp: .. then i have to install hotplug
[12:30] <shosho> excuse me plz
[12:31] <shosho> somebody tell me how to reach python channel step by step
[12:31] <shosho> if u plz
[12:31] <bxnp> i think that hotplug is already installed on your system
[12:31] <bxnp> you do run kununtu dapper right
[12:32] <shosho> somebody tell me how to reach python channel step by step
[12:33] <shosho> i didnt go to any channel b4 this channel is opened by default when i open irc
[12:33] <klaus> bxnp: kubuntu edgy
[12:33] <klaus> bxnp: it uses udev
[12:33] <Ace2016> shosho: are you using konversation?
[12:34] <shosho> yes
[12:35] <Ace2016> then press F5 to get a list of the available channels and then refresh it, then filter it to find python
[12:35] <Ace2016> once you know the name you can use   /join #name
[12:35] <Ace2016> e.g /join #python
[12:35] <lazarus__> anybody know how to mount a network share locally?
[12:35] <Ace2016> shosho: or you can click on this >>  #python
[12:36] <shosho> i have this message ]  [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel
[12:36] <Ace2016> shosho: then you have to register
[12:36] <Ace2016> your nick
[12:37] <shosho> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[12:38] <shosho> i cant
[12:38] <shosho> every time i try i have the same message
[12:38] <shosho> i dont know why
[12:38] <shosho> i may be maaaaaaaaaaad
[12:38] <klaus> bxnp: i tried http://www.blurty.com/users/claudiusmaximus/day/2006/10/19#388
[12:39] <Ace2016> shosho: what message?
[12:39] <shosho> [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel
[12:39] <Ace2016> shosho: type  "/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER"  to register your nick with a password so you can join the channel
[12:40] <shosho> "/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER"
[12:40] <shosho> ok
[12:40] <shosho> where can i write this
[12:40] <Ace2016> into the Ubuntu IRC tab
[12:41] <shosho> i have this [Error]  "/msg: Unknown command.
[12:42] <Admiral_Chicago> no "
[12:42] <Ace2016> don't use " just type whats inside it
[12:42] <chupa-chups> iam so sad
[12:43] <chupa-chups> i dont know how to reach there
[12:43] <Admiral_Chicago> why is that
[12:43] <chupa-chups> every time i  have error
[12:43] <Admiral_Chicago> are you registered?
[12:43] <Ace2016> reach where?
[12:43] <chupa-chups> #python
[12:43] <chupa-chups>  [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel
[12:43] <chupa-chups> i tried many times
[12:43] <Ace2016> Type /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[12:43] <klaus> bxnp: yet no solution works. i have to buy an christmas tree, but will come again later ...
[12:44] <chupa-chups> i did
[12:44] <Ace2016> chupa-chups: did you follow the instructions?
[12:44] <bxnp> oke klausis
[12:44] <bxnp> oke klaus
[12:44] <lazarus__> chupa-chups: take a look at: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:44] <bxnp> i dont know if i am here then cause my internet is doing strange
[12:44] <bxnp> but goodluck
[12:44] <Ace2016> Then type  /msg Identify your-password-here  ??
[12:45] <chupa-chups> i am trying now
[12:47] <lazarus__> Im trying to mount a network share locally. can anyone help?
[12:48] <rcrook> please elloberate?
[12:49] <mildner> does anybody know how to install winetools on kubuntu 64bit
[12:51] <rcrook> lazarus__: are you trying to mount a nfs or smb share?
[12:51] <lazarus__> rcrook: smb share
[12:52] <rcrook> lazarus__: using mount or a tool like smb4k?
[12:52] <lazarus__> rcrook: using mount -t cifs, and smbmount, with the same error
[12:53] <lazarus__> connection failed
[12:53] <rcrook> hmm.
[12:53] <lazarus__> but I can browse the share in konqueror without any problems
[12:53] <xsacha> hey, with: ls -l | awk '$5 > 400000'    i see all files above 400KB in this directory.. how do i pass only these filenames to rm?
[12:54] <rcrook> what are the options you are using? minus any passwords etc?
[12:54] <rcrook> xsacha: use find
[12:55] <lazarus__> rcrook: Ive tried every combination of options I can think of, with no success
[12:55] <xsacha> oh ok find -size, thanks
[12:55] <shosho> problim
[12:55] <shosho> really big problim for me
[12:55] <rcrook> xsacha:  no probs
[12:55] <shosho> no its a problim
[12:56] <rcrook> lazarus__: give ma a sec and I will give you an example I have used
[12:56] <lazarus__> rcrook: eg, smbmount //remote/sharename /media/mydocs -o username=(user),password=(pass)
[12:59] <lazarus__> rcrook: Im assuming everything is working hardware-wise and configured, since I can browse shares in konqueror with smb:/...
[12:59] <rcrook> damn lazarus__ .. that works for me...
[12:59] <rcrook> I gather its a windows box you are mounting?
[01:00] <lazarus__> rcrook: its driving me nuts. Ive followed so many howtos to the letter
[01:00] <rcrook> I can imagine.
[01:00] <lazarus__> yes, windows, but its a dual-boot with kubuntu dapper, either os same story
[01:01] <rcrook> what version of windows?
[01:01] <lazarus__> xp, sp2
[01:01] <rcrook> hmmm....
[01:02] <lazarus__> this box has limited ram. could that be the problem? again, I can browse shares in konq
[01:02] <rcrook> you could try to disable the third party smb server option in the local security pocily ion the windows box
[01:02] <rcrook> doubt its memory...
[01:03] <rcrook> sounds like we are missing something in the smbmount options..
[01:04] <lazarus__> Ive mostly tried to get it working running kubuntu on both boxes, thinking same version of samba on both boxes would be easier
[01:05] <lazarus__> on the plus side, Im learning a lot
[01:05] <rcrook> could be.. it would be good to see if there is anything in eventviewer in the XP box
[01:05] <rcrook> maybe give a hint.
[01:06] <rcrook> I am running win2k on my win box.. all seems to work ok
[01:06] <lazarus__> ok, Ill see if I can find anything. also, would it matter if the windows box is logged in as admin user account or more restricted account?
[01:07] <rcrook> shouldnt
[01:07] <xsacha> rcrook: how do i get find to only search in the current directory?
[01:08] <rcrook> xsacha: -maxdepth levels
[01:08] <xsacha> ah
[01:08] <rcrook> lazarus__: also try the degug=4 option on smbmount
[01:08] <franky> hello everyone
[01:09] <franky> i have troubles with startup of kubuntu
[01:09] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going franky
[01:09] <Admiral_Chicago> what is the problem
[01:09] <franky> well, i installed ubuntu 6.10 last weekend, everything worked fine this week
[01:09] <rcrook> lazarus__: thats debug=4
[01:09] <franky> but now i want to boot my computer, i enter my login and password
[01:10] <franky> my screen turns black and shows the login dialog again
[01:10] <franky> i also got an error once 'cannot start kstartupconfig'
[01:10] <franky> and it tells me about the $HOME dir which kde has no writing access to
[01:10] <franky> any idea?
[01:10] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[01:11] <Admiral_Chicago> it seems like ~/.kde is messed up somehow
[01:11] <xsacha> rm `find -maxdepth 1 -size -380k -a -size +300k`    perfect :)
[01:11] <Hobbsee> franky: what's your user?
[01:11] <Admiral_Chicago> log into a fail safe terminal
[01:11] <Admiral_Chicago> and try "sudo startx"
[01:11] <Hobbsee> franky: sudo chown -R user.user $home
[01:11] <Hobbsee> (where user is the name of your user)
[01:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: what does that command do?
[01:12] <franky> ok but i will have to switch computers for that
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> add access i see
[01:12] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: changes the owner - ch own
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> don't try sudo startx,
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> listen to Hobbsee
[01:12] <Hobbsee> heh :P
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> no i read it too quickly I see it now thanks Hobbsee
[01:12] <Hobbsee> franky: sudo chown -R user.user /home/user - where all 3 users are your username
[01:12] <franky> ok but i will have to switch computers, i installed ubuntu as a dual boot with win xp
[01:12] <Hobbsee> franky: fair enough
[01:12] <franky> i'll write down this and i will be back in a few minutes
[01:13] <franky> thanx in advance
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> you're quite popular on IRC today Hobbsee
[01:13] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: why so?
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> getting poked for help in -bugs as well
[01:13] <Hobbsee> ah yeah
[01:13] <Hobbsee> and in #kde4-devel
[01:13] <Hobbsee> hey rob!
[01:14] <kwtm> Hello, all.
[01:14] <rob> hey Hobbsee :D
[01:14] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:14] <franky> Hobbsee: what will that sudo chown command do?
[01:15] <oslo>  wirh kopete i can't the text "showgallery.php" on msn ....
[01:15] <kwtm> Got a question about dpkg --could someone help me find a file?
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> add read acess to the user franky
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> or actually change owner
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> ch own
[01:15] <franky> ok thx
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> see what I mean?
[01:15] <franky> btw: is there a way to move my home dir?
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> cp ~/ /other/location etc
[01:16] <franky> owkay, thanx, i'll give it a try
[01:16] <Hobbsee> franky: change the ownership of those files
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> actually cp ~/* /other/location
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> but that is a bit more complicated
[01:16] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: that wont do hidden files
[01:16] <kwtm> franky: You mean set another directory as your home dir?  Or just copy what's in your home dir to another location that's not your home dir?
[01:16] <xsacha> move or copy? move would be: usermod --home new_home_dir ?
[01:16] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: you want cp ~/ /foo
[01:16] <franky> set another dir as home dir.
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> really? cp -a ~/
[01:17] <Admiral_Chicago> yea that's what i meant
[01:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: how would you do hidden files?
[01:17] <kwtm> franky: I think xsacha has the right idea, although I'm not familiar with usermod.  But you do need to change the HOME environment,
[01:17] <Hobbsee> well, either cp .* or just cp /
[01:17] <kwtm> franky: otherwise you would end up just continuing to use your old home dir (which would now be empty if you moved your files elsewhere)
[01:18] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i'll remember that, i've only been using linux for about a year
[01:18] <xsacha> usermod -d new_home_dir -m
[01:18] <xsacha> the -m moves too
[01:18] <Hobbsee> kwtm: what did you want to know?
[01:18] <kwtm> Hobbsee: I get this error with this file "/usr/lib/libcups.so.2"
[01:18] <kwtm> Hobbsee: How do I find out what ubuntu package it came from?
[01:19] <kwtm> Hobbsee: I figure there must be some dpkg command
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> kwtm: i think it's apt-get show
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> but i'm probably wrong
[01:19] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: you are wrong :P
[01:19] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: you're thinking of apt-cache show
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> gah! i'm like 0/5 Hobbsee
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> that is what I thought
[01:19] <kwtm> Admiral_Chicago: Thanks, I'll check.  Ooops, Hobbsee: :P  Okay, apt-cache show /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 ?
[01:20] <Hobbsee> kwtm: dpkg -L /path
[01:20] <xsacha> franky: sudo usermod --home /foo --move-home $USER
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> hey it's 6.15 AM here, plus i've been up all night doing a physics final
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> 20 odd pages
[01:20] <Hobbsee> kwtm: no, apt-cache show does something different
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i get to make mistakes :P
[01:20] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:20] <franky> kwtm: thanx i'll try
[01:20] <Hobbsee> apt-cache show does the packages, dpkg -L (list) will tell you the filse that belong to the package
[01:20] <Hobbsee> also, packages.ubuntu.com will tell you
[01:21] <kwtm> Hobbsee: thanks, I tried dpkg -L; but is there a way to find out what package a file belongs to if I don't know what package it is?
[01:21] <xsacha> kwtm: sudo apt-get install apt-file
[01:21] <xsacha> apt-file filename
[01:21] <yuma> hi
[01:21] <xsacha> search*
[01:21] <kwtm> Hobbsee: I don't want to have to go through all packages looking for that file... xsacha: okay, will try that.
[01:22] <Hobbsee> kwtm: dpkg -L does that, doesn tit?  or packages.ubuntu.com and scroll down
[01:22] <Hobbsee> kwtm: look down - you want the second search box
[01:22] <lazarus__> rcrook: with the debug=4 option, I get attempting host lookup, wins lookup, and then wins server resolution selected and no wins servers listed
[01:23] <yuma> is there any way to change the kdm language?
[01:23] <rcrook> lazarus__: do you have the win machine in your hosts file?
[01:23] <yuma> I think so, because I remember that in gentoo I had Spanish...
[01:23] <yuma> but I've not idea how...
[01:23] <Admiral_Chicago> yuma: there is an option in xserver iirc
[01:23] <lazarus__> rcrook: how do I check that?
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> but i may be wrong
[01:24] <rcrook> cat /etc/hosts
[01:24] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: I'll find out
[01:24] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: Thanks
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> look in input device
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> yuma:        Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
[01:25] <franky> Admiral_Chicago, Hobbsee and kwtm: thanks a lot! it works again!!!
[01:25] <rcrook> lazarus__: if it is not there you can add it by editing the file or use the network setup
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> is my line, your line sohuld read "es" i think
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: is that right?
[01:25] <Hobbsee> franky: :)
[01:25] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: I did that, but that's for the input of the kb
[01:25] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: no idea, i dont use locales
[01:25] <xsacha> franky: what did you end up doing?
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> then i'm not wrong that i know of
[01:25] <franky> well, i dit chown my home dir
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> so I win...slightly
[01:26] <franky> and then i move it to another dir
[01:26] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: What I want is to have the interface in Spanish, instead of 'Password' I should read 'Contrasea' and so on
[01:26] <xsacha> k
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> yuma: OH!
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> wait a sec
[01:26] <rcrook> lazarus__: you and also use its ip address in the smbmount command too.. //192.168.XX.XX/share
[01:26] <xsacha> export LANG       or  LANGUAGE ?
[01:27] <kwtm> Hobbsee: Thank you --looking at packages.ubuntu.com worked!  I found that /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 is in the libcupsys package (I would never have found that on my own!)
[01:27] <lazarus__> rcrook: where should the hosts file be?
[01:27] <Hobbsee> kwtm: :)
[01:27] <rcrook> lazarus__: /etc/hosts
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> yuma: sorry right now i'm really tired and can't think straight
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe #kubuntu-es can help
[01:28] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: hehe, don't worry, thanks for everything
[01:28] <kwtm> Hobbsee: When I checked the package, it looks like /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 has length 0 --no wonder my printer isn't working!  I will reinstall the package.  I love having the k/ubuntu community available at 4 in the morning!
[01:28] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: I'm already there, but they are all sleeping!
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> yuma: i should be too!
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[01:28] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 16 2006, 06:28:39
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ...final exams
[01:28] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: bad thing...
[01:28] <kwtm> Admiral_Chicago: hey, best of luck on your physics exam.  Is this high school or university?
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> yuma: i hear it is really easy to make one too
[01:29] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: you really should be sleeping
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> kwtm: college.
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> actually i'm finishing my physics now
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> 20 pages
[01:29] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: physics?
[01:29] <Hobbsee> kwtm: :)
[01:29] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: what are you studing?
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> physics and computer science
[01:30] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: I'm doing physics in Madrid
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm jealous.
[01:30] <yuma> best luck in exams!
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i love Spain, I went three years ago
[01:30] <kwtm> Admiral_Chicago: I know how you feel!  (I did engineering in undergrad.  Man, what a wringer!)
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> yuma: thanks
[01:30] <rcrook> yuma: you can change the language for kdm in the kdm setings gui
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> kwtm: 14 pages for homework, you know what it's like
[01:30] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: if you want we can swap for a year or so!
[01:30] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: hehe
[01:31] <yuma> rcrook: I've tried kdmtheme, but I don't find the option
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> yuma apt-cache search kdm
[01:31] <kwtm> Admiral_Chicago: Best of luck!  Thanks Hobbsee!  yuma, quiero tambien ir en espana un dia!  Bye!
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> there may be an option
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> no ignore that
[01:31] <Hobbsee> jerre: hehe, heya
[01:31] <yuma> kwtm: you're invited too :)
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm out of ideas...
[01:32] <rcrook> yuma: not the kdetheme but if you start kcontrol and in the system admin there is a login manager section
[01:32] <jerre> Hobbsee:whos is this
[01:33] <yuma> rcrook: hmm, I don't know why but I'm afraid I miss some options in kcontrol
[01:33] <Hobbsee> jerre: a strange person
[01:33] <crystal> #ubuntu
[01:33] <yuma> rcrook: I'll check but almost sure I don't have that
[01:33] <rcrook> ok yuma
[01:34] <lazarus__> rcrook: I add the win ip then the name after the 127.0.0.1 localhost, like this 192.168.xxx.xxx win-machine ?
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> final exam = 21 pages. blah
[01:34] <yuma> rcrook: I promise I search it for a long time!
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> time to type some more lab reports
[01:34] <yuma> rcrook: I found it, but I didn't expect that name in Spanish...
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> second all nighter in a row
[01:35] <yuma> I'm so ashamed...
[01:35] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: In which course are you?
[01:35] <klaus> bxnp, i am back
[01:35] <rcrook> lazarus__: the format of hosts is <ip address> <hostname>
[01:35] <bxnp> well i am not gone
[01:36] <rcrook> yuma: do be ashamed.. they like to test us when naming the options... LOL
[01:36] <rcrook> dont be ashamed
[01:36] <rcrook> I mean
[01:36] <Admiral_Chicago> yuma: physics 1 :| and it is that much wrk
[01:36] <rcrook> doh! now I am ashamed.. my typing is bad tonight
[01:37] <yuma> Admiral_Chicago: I know what you mean, I'm in 4th and you could be sure this is worst...
[01:37] <klaus> hello, i am use kubuntu edy , and digikam cannot download from my usb-cam. its an rights problem, because root can. any idea ? maybe something with udev ...
[01:37] <yuma> rcrook: yes, sometimes is hard to find something you've always have read in English
[01:37] <rcrook> lazarus__: for example. my windows box is thing so the format would be 192.168.0.56 thing
[01:38] <lazarus__> ok, added the winbox to hosts, the smbmout with debug=4 option now says error connecting to ip #:port # (No route to host), then the same thing again with a different port #
[01:39] <yuma> well I've to go to have a shower and to buy something to eat today
[01:39] <yuma> I'll see you later
[01:39] <yuma> thanks for the help!
[01:40] <rcrook> see ya yuma
[01:40] <klaus> any idea how to use an usb-cam with digikam as non-root in kubuntu-edgy?
[01:40] <chimaera> can somone with flash9 installed pls call http://www.myspace.com/wallsofjericho within konqi and see if the playlist of the player gets loaded correctly? (might want to turn the volume down, depending on your taste of music).
[01:42] <chimaera> klaus: might want to add the user to the appropriate group, dont's know which this is, though.
[01:42] <klaus> chimaera, i created a group camera, where the user is in, but i think kubuntu has to know that this group has the rights
[01:43] <chimaera> klaus: try it the othe rway around. find out which group camera belongs to. ;)
[01:44] <klaus> chimaera, ahm. and how ?
[01:45] <chimaera> klaus: mhh, do you know the device (/dev/..)?
[01:45] <frootstripe> hi all - cud s/o tell me how to get bluetooth modules to stop from loading on startup. the modules are cfcomm and l2cap
[01:46] <klaus> chimaera, mabye no /dev/ device  ? not sure ... dont know
[01:46] <klaus> chimaera, dmesg dont tell me
[01:46] <chimaera> frootstripe: add them top /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:46] <chimaera> klaus: does the application give any hints on the device used?
[01:47] <frootstripe> thanx
[01:47] <lazarus__> rcrook: smbmout with debug=4 option now says error connecting to ip #:port # (No route to host), then the same thing again with a different port #. does no route to host mean what it sounds like?
[01:48] <frootstripe> only I don't have that file, the skeleton somewhere?
[01:48] <klaus> chimaera, its an usb-cam ptp/ip ... 04cb:019b
[01:48] <rcrook> lazarus__: could be a ip address error..
[01:48] <rcrook> let me look at something
[01:48] <chimaera> frootstripe: should be there. really should.  ;)
[01:49] <revolutionstudio> anyone can suggest a cheap place to pick up some ram want atleast 1gb in the 184 pin ddr dimm
[01:49] <malik__> does any know how to make opera play multimedia files in kubuntu edgy?
[01:49] <chimaera> frootstripe: just add the module-name, nothing else in it.
[01:50] <chimaera> klaus: try checking the ubuntu wiki or ask if someone in #ubunto knows to which group usb-cams are assigned.
[01:50] <chimaera> klaus: #ubuntu of course.
[01:51] <klaus> chimaera, ok i will try there thanks
[01:51] <ylz_> Hello...
[01:51] <revolutionstudio> and i have another question....about cooling fans...would it be safe to sit a big ass fan beside the case without the side panel on it to help cool it down...i shut down to add a fan and when i touched the metal inside i burned my hand
[01:52] <rcrook> lazarus__: what I think is happening is the knoqueror use the netbois name resolution to get the hosts ip address. smbmount doesnt. I am not sure if you can force smbmount to use netbios. so you need to have the hosts ip address in hosts or you can use the ip address in the command itself.
[01:52] <lazarus__> rcrook: you mean Im using the wrong ip number? or something is wrong with network configuration?
[01:52] <ylz_> I try to change font size of GTK applications (like gaim and evolution), but I cannot find those settings in kcontrol. Does someone knows how to?
[01:52] <xsacha> revolutionstudio: an intel?
[01:53] <revolutionstudio> hell no...
[01:53] <revolutionstudio> sorry just hate intels
[01:53] <xsacha> i have trouble getting any of my AMDs above room temperature
[01:53] <revolutionstudio> amd athlon
[01:54] <lazarus__> rcrook: I tried smbmount with ip number, same no route to host error. could it be a hardware problem?
[01:54] <rcrook> lazarus__: bigest issue is if you use dhcp for the windows box net configuration. then there is no garranty that you will have the same ip address each time it boots.
[01:54] <lazarus__> rcrook: that is, faulty network card?
[01:54] <revolutionstudio> its old but runs alot better than most of the intels around here anyways...everyone i know with intel bog out during gameplay...and my old ass amd 1.4ghz kicks ass
[01:54] <revolutionstudio> but runs way too hot...and dont understand why
[01:54] <rcrook> lazarus__:  try ping ipaddress eg: ping 192.168.0.54
[01:55] <lazarus__> ipconfig in windows/dos gives you the ip number, right?
[01:55] <rcrook> lazarus__: yup
[01:55] <revolutionstudio> yes lazarus
[01:55] <revolutionstudio> so will a big window fan or box fan work to help cool it all down?
[01:56] <revolutionstudio> will that be safe really im sure it will work but safty wise
[01:57] <revolutionstudio> any ideas on where to get the cheap ram?
[01:57] <lazarus__> rcrook: ok, getting somewhere. now with correct ip, says smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000), then smbmnt failed: 1
[01:59] <rcrook> lazarus__: you can chmod o+s `which smbmnt` but using setuid can be dangerous security wise.
[02:00] <rcrook> lazarus__: its chmod u+s
[02:00] <rcrook> sorry
[02:00] <lazarus__> if I sudo smbmount, it says namecache_shutdown: Couldnt close namecache on top of gencache
[02:01] <rcrook> lazarus__: interesting. let me try
[02:02] <malik__> hi any one here knows how to make opera work in edgy?
[02:02] <Ace2016> Hi all
[02:02] <rcrook> lazarus__: did it actually mount the share?
[02:03] <Ace2016> If i set up a software raid, at what point during startup will the bootprocess start reading from both disks?
[02:04] <lazarus__> rcrook: hey, it did mount it!
[02:05] <lazarus__> so I just need to sudo smbmount (and get the ip number right). Just want to make sure I understand what happened
[02:07] <malik__> hi any one here knows how to make opera work in edgy?
[02:08] <ibert> hey girls&guys! I'm search for way to send mails inside my lan from between different machines & users (so to their local mailboxes) does anyone know a howto for such a thing (small LAN)?
[02:08] <chimaera> can somone with flash9 installed pls call http://www.myspace.com/wallsofjericho within konqi and see if the playlist of the player gets loaded correctly? (might want to turn the volume down, depending on your taste of music).
[02:09] <rcrook_> ibert: simple way would to be to set up an imap server on one ot the machines
[02:09] <Ace2016> i wonder how much speed i could gain by getting a cheep 40gb hard disk  and adding it as hdc and using a 40gb partition from hda and hdb and setting up a software raid. First i have to figure out when all the disks start being used
[02:10] <malik__> hi any one here knows how to make opera work in edgy?
[02:11] <rcrook_> malik__: if you have a little while I wil try to install it
[02:11] <Administrateur_> hallo
[02:11] <Ace2016> malik__: install it from conical repos?
[02:12] <diana99> hola gente
[02:12] <malik__> Ace2016: yes i have but it doesnt play multimedia files of any sort
[02:13] <larson9999> malik__: i just installed it in edgy.  it worked fine
[02:13] <rcrook_> malik__: have you an example site I could try?
[02:13] <ibert> rcrook_: is this really simple? hmm. I was wondering If i could do it with postifx on the machines...
[02:14] <sirjinx> Hi. Can some one help me?
[02:14] <rcrook_> ibert: if you are going to go that direction I think exim is easier to configure
[02:15] <sirjinx> My  xorg.conf file doesn't seem to load the modified changes unless I start X from the command line.
[02:15] <malik__> http://news.bbc.co.uk and http://npr.org
[02:15] <Ace2016> malik__: flash? or windows media? flash 9 just about works with it and kaffeine can be used as a plugin to play media files
[02:15] <ibert> rcrook_: I'll check it out. thanx.
[02:15] <malik__> flash works in it just fine its real meadia n windows media which is giving me grief
[02:16] <malik__> the canonical repo i use is as this .........http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[02:18] <sirjinx> Is it normal that X doesn't load the changes that I made to my xorg.conf file unless I start X from the command line?
[02:18] <Ace2016> !raid
[02:18] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:19] <chimaera> sirjinx: you have to restart x. just loging out and lggin in (with kdm) running won't suffice.
[02:20] <sirjinx> well, I have actually done a reboot many times. It worked yesterday when I did, but it's not working now.
[02:20] <lazarus__> rcrook_: thank you so much for your help. just to confirm, I needed to sudo mount, and of course use the right ip number, either in hosts file or in the smbmount command. Is that all the problem was?
[02:21] <koyo001> helo
[02:21] <koyo001> i am trying out some new features
[02:21] <koyo001> on kubuntu
[02:22] <sampo-> Nice, only way to learn is trying :)
[02:23] <ibert> koyo001: which ones?
[02:24] <malik__> Ace2016: which canonical repo i need to enable?.......can u point me in the right direction plz?
[02:24] <malik__> im using edgy with ked 3.5.5
[02:25] <Ace2016> malik__: to use kaffeine to play stuff?
[02:25] <Ace2016> malik__: you just have to install kaffeine-mozilla
[02:25] <Ace2016> mozilla plugin that lanches kaffeine for supported media types
[02:26] <rcrook_> lazarus__: yup... seems that way.
[02:27] <lazarus__> Ive found mozilla mplayer plugin works well for windows embedded media in firefox, but have never tried with opera
[02:27] <malik__> i installed the plugin last time n it does lauch kaffiene but only externally n it takes very long time to play video or audio files
[02:28] <rcrook_> malik__: got opera installed but cant get it to play the streams. thing I need some plugins to get it to. I use firefox ad have few problems with it.
[02:28] <Ace2016> true, thats what sucks about opera
[02:30] <malik__> yea thats the thing it doesnt work correctly in linux n it sucks .........i can make firefox with extensions work like opera but its not the same
[02:31] <malik__> konqi works just fine but lacks opera's mouse gestures .........other than that i like konqi so far
[02:31] <Ace2016> firefox just doesn't feel as responsive, but after opera 8, it went down hill fast, can't even pann properly when zoomed
[02:31] <rcrook> lazarus__: just to let you know I use smb4k instead of trying to handle smbmount.. does all the hard stuff for you. you might want to have a squiz at it.
[02:32] <lazarus__> rcrook: is that installed with samba, or a separate package?
[02:32] <malik__> i cant understand that why opera ppl havent released the code since they have made the browser free
[02:32] <rcrook> separate package lazarus__
[02:33] <sampo-> Are it possible to mount my root partition to other partition, witch is normaly mount as /home?
[02:34] <sampo-> for temporary
[02:34] <sirjinx> Now this is just weird. Everytime I cold boot into kde, my xorg.conf doesn't load. But once I restart X, it loads it. Is there a place besides /etc/X11 where an xorg.conf file may be stored?
[02:35] <malik__> Ace2016: do you use firefox or konqi?
[02:36] <rcrook> sirjinx: /var/lib/x11/
[02:36] <sirjinx> ok thanks
[02:37] <Ace2016> i use opera most of the time, and firefox if i'm watching youtube videos and stuff like that, opera's flash messes up easily
[02:37] <koyo001> i have a little problem
[02:37] <Ace2016> koyo001: what is it?
[02:37] <koyo001> if someone could help me out i would really apreciateit
[02:37] <koyo001> i am trying to get into multiverse
[02:37] <koyo001> not working
[02:37] <cox377> what does everyone here use to listen to mp3/wma's etc?
[02:38] <rcrook> amarok cox377
[02:38] <Ace2016> cox377: amarok/juk
[02:38] <murchadh_bhaba> cox377, Amarok
[02:38] <Ace2016> cox377: juk is better, faster
[02:38] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: does anyone here stream music over a network to there kubuntu box?
[02:38] <rcrook> koyo001: you need to add  multiverse to the apt-sources file
[02:38] <koyo001> i read the info
[02:39] <koyo001> but as i try to rewrite the name
[02:39] <frootstripe> how do i change my default internet browser? still want konqueror for my system tho....
[02:39] <koyo001> when i click on it again it goes back to universe
[02:39] <rcrook> are you trying it in adept koyo001?
[02:40] <koyo001> yeah
[02:40] <rcrook> let me have a quick look koyo001
[02:40] <koyo001> tyring it in adept
[02:40] <murchadh_bhaba> Ace2016, But amaroks extras are brilliant, and it works in konquerors sidepanel to wiki artists and lyrics, etc. I was loath to move away from winamp but amarok is solid.
[02:41] <Ace2016> murchadh_bhaba: its slow, thats about the only reason i don't use it, takes forever to add all my music to a playlist
[02:41] <koyo001> as you can tell newbie to linux
[02:41] <murchadh_bhaba> cox377, Not that up on streaming, but as far as I know amarok can stream and read stream?
[02:41] <koyo001> but i have been coming on and off back to linux
[02:41] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: it does with some stuff and just crashs with out
[02:41] <koyo001> i just never got it completely set up right
[02:41] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: as a desktop OS this has been doing my nut
[02:42] <koyo001> and never had the time to so just went back to shitty ass windows
[02:42] <koyo001> but now i just cant take windows anymore
[02:43] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: it's like the fact with armork you can't add network shares into your library
[02:43] <murchadh_bhaba> Ace2016, I have 22000 songs in it's Database, and it's probably the best media player I've used. On any platform! But my needs ar e limited to playing my nusic. All other media is played by an xbox; cartoons, movies, etc.
[02:45] <rcrook> koyo001: Just tied the manage repos in adept. if you double click on the components on the line in question  then add multiverse and hit enter it should work
[02:45] <Ace2016> murchadh_bhaba: well i just want to go to the collection tab, select all, and then right click and add them to the playlist but its not letting me
[02:45] <murchadh_bhaba> cox377, Ah, I'll have to check it out. I think amaroks can share a single database across the network. I may be wrong though.
[02:45] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: i can imagine if the media is local it works very well
[02:45] <koyo001> i just did that
[02:45] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: Umm u got any ideas how mate?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[02:46] <koyo001> i try to click on the line
[02:46] <murchadh_bhaba> cox377, MySQL!
[02:46] <koyo001> then it gives me the option to write
[02:46] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: unfortunatly i dont know that well enough to start doing such a thing
[02:46] <cox377> :(
[02:46] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: lol
[02:46] <koyo001> but how do i write it so it stays
[02:46] <BluesKaj> anyone try FF3 yet ?
[02:47] <koyo001> and another thing is i have 2 universes
[02:47] <murchadh_bhaba> koyo001, Click apply at the bottom!
[02:47] <koyo001> after i finish writing
[02:47] <koyo001> universe multiverse
[02:47] <koyo001> ????
[02:47] <rcrook> koyo001: seems odd but just typing multiverse at the end and pressing enter should work. sigh that is how it works for me.
[02:48] <BluesKaj> copy & paste
[02:48] <rcrook> yes
[02:48] <rcrook> you want both universe and multiverse if you want the bleeding egde progs
[02:48] <koyo001> does it have to be active when i do it
[02:48] <rcrook> yes
[02:49] <koyo001> yes i want it all
[02:49] <koyo001> i am trying to get amule
[02:49] <rcrook> ok
[02:49] <koyo001> and codecs to listen to mp3's
[02:49] <murchadh_bhaba> cox377, There is a good howto on just that, but you'll have to google it as I can't remember it off the top of my head. Unfortunately, my Kubuntu machine is the one with all the medai on it, my 9 year old laptop won't run amarok, and all media not played on the kubuntu PC is played on modded xboxes.
[02:50] <koyo001> i just started with kubuntu
[02:50] <koyo001> trying to set it up
[02:50] <koyo001> finaly got msn back
[02:50] <murchadh_bhaba> cox377, So I'm not much help. How much music do you have there, that you add it all to your collection?
[02:51] <koyo001> now missing amule
[02:51] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: i have a similar figure to you 22000
[02:51] <koyo001> and sound
[02:51] <cox377> murchadh_bhaba: AHH modded xboxs.. thats my kinda media center ; )
[02:51] <koyo001> been reading all the how to's
[02:52] <koyo001> and cant get multiverse active
[02:52] <praveer_fedora> kubuntu messed everything
[02:52] <praveer_fedora> it messed grub of fedora core 5
[02:53] <praveer_fedora> can anyone help me, i first installed fedora core 5 wid wondowz on hard disk 1
[02:53] <praveer_fedora> then i installed kubuntu 6.06 lts on second hard disk
[02:53] <praveer_fedora> it messed kubuntu itself along with fedora as fedora and kubuntu are not starting properly
[02:54] <praveer_fedora> now i am on kubuntu live using konversation
[02:54] <koyo001> it saya here in adept uncomment the following 2 lines to add software from universe
[02:55] <praveer_fedora> please someone help me with ths, i used fedora rescue cd but grub-install reports errors
[02:55] <praveer_fedora> now i could not boot to any linux
[02:55] <praveer_fedora> neither kubuntu nor fedora
[02:56] <praveer_fedora> strangely wwindowz boots well
[02:57] <BluesKaj> you prolly have 2 , ext3 Linux partitions...confuses the mbr
[02:57] <praveer_fedora> BluesKaj: what should i do then
[02:57] <koyo001> rcrook
[02:57] <koyo001> you still there
[02:58] <rcrook> praveer_fedora: never used grub booting two linux's before... always used lilo for that... seems to handle multi linuxs' better.. sorry cant help very much
[02:58] <rcrook> yes koyo001
[02:58] <koyo001> sorry to disturb you
[02:58] <koyo001> its just i dont know how to do it
[02:58] <koyo001> i have been trying for days now
[02:59] <rcrook> tis ok... just trying to figure why adept works ok for me and not for you koyo001
[02:59] <BluesKaj> choose either kubuntu , I think you repartition fedora to a reiser file sytem and leabve kubuntu as ext3 . That should solve yer prob
[02:59] <koyo001> maybe i am douing something real basic wrong
[02:59] <koyo001> its what i think
[02:59] <praveer_fedora> BluesKaj: i dont think fedora will support reiser due to its selinux policies
[02:59] <rcrook> only thing I can think is adept is not running as root... something wrong with the sodu
[03:00] <praveer_fedora> BluesKaj: what do u say
[03:00] <koyo001> humm
[03:00] <rcrook> sodu
[03:00] <BluesKaj> then dump fedora :)
[03:00] <koyo001> it asks me for my password
[03:00] <rcrook> god my typing is bad tonight
[03:00] <koyo001> tonight
[03:00] <koyo001> where are you
[03:00] <rcrook> canberra australia
[03:00] <praveer_fedora> BluesKaj: i installed more than 200 packages on fedora
[03:00] <koyo001> shit
[03:00] <koyo001> the land down under
[03:01] <rcrook> yup
[03:01] <koyo001> cool
[03:01] <koyo001> i am in santiago chile
[03:01] <koyo001> morning here
[03:01] <rcrook> hot at the moment actually lol
[03:01] <koyo001> hot here too
[03:01] <praveer_fedora> BluesKaj: i dont have 2 ext3fs on same hdd
[03:01] <BluesKaj> praveer_fedora, it's your decision> murchadh_bhaba ...what do you think he should do ?
[03:01] <rcrook> chile... sounds interesting. :)
[03:01] <koyo001> ok let me describe what i do
[03:02] <praveer_fedora> BluesKaj: one has fedora ext3 and other kubuntu ext3
[03:02] <koyo001> you can tell me if i am missing a step
[03:02] <koyo001> it is
[03:02] <rcrook> ok
[03:02] <cox377> koyo001: u been watching the ashes?
[03:02] <koyo001> nice women here
[03:02] <christiane> Hello. I just installed Kuibuntu 6.10 and now try to access a samba share in konqueror with "smb://user@server" but get no files. I installed smbfs but it's the same. What could be wrong here? Do I need smbfs for smb://?
[03:02] <koyo001> what ashes
[03:02] <rcrook> not a cricket fan then. LOL
[03:02] <cox377> koyo001: opps wrong person
[03:03] <koyo001> its ok
[03:03] <cox377> rcrook: you been watching the ashes
[03:03] <praveer_fedora> is there any k front end to grub so that i can install it via apt here and try it
[03:03] <koyo001> no cricket for me
[03:03] <koyo001> ok here it goes
[03:03] <rcrook> I am not a cricket fan either cox377 LOL, but I know the aussies have been thrashing the poms;)
[03:03] <koyo001> i start adept manager
[03:03] <rcrook> ok
[03:03] <cox377> rcrook: lol
[03:04] <koyo001> manager asks me for my password
[03:04] <rcrook> yup
[03:04] <BluesKaj> praveer_fedora, this is a kubuntu help room ...try this for your fedora problem http://www.fedorafaq.org/
[03:04] <koyo001> i then go to view manage repositories
[03:04] <rcrook> cool
[03:05] <koyo001> in repositories there is a line that says uncomment the following 2 lines to add software from universe
[03:05] <rcrook> yup
[03:05] <Alter-Ego> i forgot how to start an stuck adept
[03:06] <koyo001> i right click the 2 lines and activate them
[03:06] <vlt> Hello. I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and now try to access a samba share in konqueror with "smb://user@server" but get no files. I installed smbfs but it's the same. What could be wrong here? Do I need smbfs for smb://?
[03:06] <rcrook> yup
[03:06] <koyo001> then i clisck on the line and write
[03:06] <koyo001> universe multiverse
[03:07] <koyo001> click apply
[03:07] <koyo001> and nothing happens
[03:07] <rcrook> ok koyo001.. I am gonna do the same
[03:07] <BluesKaj> christiane, do you have SWAT installed (Samba Web Admin Tool) ?
[03:07] <koyo001> stays exactly the same
[03:08] <christiane> BluesKaj: No, what do I need this for?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> or is it vlt
[03:08] <BluesKaj> helps setup samba on yer system
[03:08] <christiane> BluesKaj: I didn't realize that irc.freenode.org#kubuntu and irc.ubuntu.com#kubunti were the same ;-)
[03:09] <koyo001> hey it worked
[03:09] <christiane> BluesKaj: I don't want to setup samba on my system, I want to access a samba server.
[03:09] <rcrook> lol
[03:09] <koyo001> i have been doing the same shit for a week
[03:09] <koyo001> and it finally worked
[03:09] <koyo001> what the fuck
[03:09] <rcrook> the vageries of computer... lol
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> !language | koyo001
[03:10] <ubotu> koyo001: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:10] <apokryphos> !language| koyo001
[03:10] <BluesKaj> !language
[03:10] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:10] <koyo001> sorry
[03:10] <koyo001> it was expression of joy
[03:10] <koyo001> not meant in a bad way
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i know it was
[03:10] <koyo001> sorry kids
[03:11] <koyo001> lol
[03:11] <koyo001> ok now i have no idea what to do
[03:11] <rcrook> hit update
[03:12] <koyo001> fetch updates???
[03:12] <rcrook> yup
[03:13] <koyo001> humm
[03:13] <koyo001> dont have amule
[03:13] <koyo001> or i mule on here
[03:13] <rcrook> one sec
[03:15] <rcrook> mine says its in the universe component.   let me see what repos
[03:15] <koyo001> and why is it that when i go back to the repositories its not active????
[03:16] <fribuntu> Hi again
[03:16] <Ace2016> Hi
[03:17] <fribuntu> Is anyone else having problems with the NVidia drivers after the most recent upgrade?
[03:17] <fribuntu> I had to switch back to "nv" to enable X11
[03:18] <Ace2016> fribuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318206
[03:18] <rcrook> not sure exactly what repos... but as you say if the repos is not enabled ...
[03:18] <koyo001> well cause when i switch back and forth
[03:18] <hoody> hi there!
[03:19] <boqdan> polaken devastation
[03:19] <koyo001> when i go back its not active
[03:19] <koyo001> shouldnt it stay active???
[03:19] <rcrook> its should yes. koyo001
[03:19] <Ace2016> Is there a software raid how to for ubuntu which uses the alternative install disk>?
[03:20] <christiane> BluesKaj: Solved the smb:// problem. I had to append the shared path to the url.
[03:20] <koyo001> man linux really makes my hard diffcult
[03:20] <malik__> does any one know abt any skins for konqi besides the default settings?
[03:21] <fribuntu> Ace2016: Thanks for the hint. I will try the methods described and reboot. brb :)
[03:21] <hoody> i need help! kpowersave always want's me to start dbus although it is already started ... if i restart dbus the battery status shows up but i can't switch between powermodes
[03:21] <rcrook> thats the challange koyo001.. LOL, not sure whats going on..
[03:21] <koyo001> hey it says to uncomment the lines
[03:22] <koyo001> shouldn't i uncomment
[03:22] <rcrook> which is what the right click enable is supposed to do
[03:22] <rcrook> or if you are keen you can manually edit the apt.sources file
[03:22] <koyo001> no it leaves it with the comment next to it
[03:23] <fribuntu> Ace2016: It worked. Thanks again for the hint. Was dead on.
[03:23] <BluesKaj> christiane
[03:23] <mattik> Hello. How do I disable the second ethernet card? My network have been slow after it that I install pppoe-password in adsl-router.
[03:24] <BluesKaj> how did you append the path tom the URL?...I'm having aprob getting my wifes windows pc to access this linuxbox
[03:24] <Ace2016> fribuntu: the link is from the message in the forums
[03:24] <koyo001> what is it supposed to write
[03:25] <koyo001> next to the universe one
[03:25] <hyper_ch> anyone has winetools?
[03:25] <koyo001> instead of comment???
[03:25] <BluesKaj> christiane,  how did you append the path to the URL?...I'm having a prob getting my wife's windows pc to access this linuxbox
[03:25] <rcrook> the ## is the comment marker at the beginning of the line
[03:25] <christiane> BluesKaj: After seeing nothing when typing "smb://user@server" I added the path: "smb://user@server/user" ... and it worked.
[03:25] <rcrook> when you enable the line the ## is supposed to vanish
[03:26] <koyo001> comment##
[03:26] <fribuntu> Ace2016: Do you have any idea how I could test my 3D acceleration?
[03:26] <fribuntu> Ace2016: Some sort of minimal 3D test/benchmark for Linux ...
[03:27] <BluesKaj> christiane, did you edit the smb.conf to do this ?
[03:27] <rcrook> so the line should looks something like deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[03:27] <christiane> BluesKaj: No, I just had to type something else in Konqueror's url line.
[03:28] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:28] <fribuntu> mattik: you can use "ifconfig ethX down" where X is the number of the device you want to disable.
[03:28] <koyo001> and cant i just write that
[03:28] <christiane> BluesKaj: Look, if there's a [homes]  section in smb.conf.
[03:28] <mattik> fribuntu: thank you :)
[03:28] <xsacha> http://bur.st/~s/3d.jpg
[03:29] <koyo001> cause right now dont know why but when i enable it
[03:29] <koyo001> it just stays the same
[03:29] <rcrook> koyo001: what does the whole line actually look like at the moment?
[03:30] <mattik> fribuntu: How I can do it automatically in boot time? By script?
[03:30] <fribuntu> mattik: If you want to do that on a more permanent basis, disable "auto" in the /etc/network/interfaces file.
[03:30] <fribuntu> mattik: Then it will not autoconfig your second network card again :)
[03:30] <mattik> fribuntu: thank you
[03:30] <BluesKaj> rcrook, and the rest of you guys when showing repos URLs pls put quotes around the whole address , otherwise noobs who cut and paste won't get the deb and the universe, multiverse parts
[03:30] <koyo001> comment## uncomment the following two lines to add software from the universe
[03:31] <mattik> fribuntu: So I have to start eth0 then some way
[03:31] <koyo001> comment##repositories
[03:31] <fribuntu> fribuntu: No, you just set eth1 on manual and leave eth0 on auto of course.
[03:31] <rcrook> ahhhhhh
[03:31] <fribuntu> mattik: see above
[03:31] <rcrook> now I see the problem
[03:31] <fribuntu> mattik: and see "man interfaces" :)
[03:32] <mattik> fribuntu: thank you very much :) you are friendly guy :)
[03:32] <koyo001> so what is the problem
[03:32] <koyo001> ????????????????
[03:32] <koyo001> tell me
[03:32] <fribuntu> mattik: Most people here are very friendly, really.
[03:32] <koyo001> cause i am clueless] 
[03:32] <mattik> fribuntu: It's sure :)
[03:32] <rcrook> koyo001: about 7 lines down from the the "uncomment the following two lines is a line starting with deb
[03:33] <rcrook> that is the line you enable and then add multiverse at the end..
[03:33] <koyo001> yes
[03:33] <rcrook> just double click on the universe
[03:33] <koyo001> really
[03:33] <rcrook> yup
[03:34] <rcrook> then add multiverse after universe
[03:34] <koyo001> to witch line
[03:34] <koyo001> the one with deb
[03:34] <rcrook> the two line starting with deb
[03:34] <koyo001> or the one with comment
[03:34] <koyo001> ok
[03:34] <koyo001> will try that see if it works
[03:34] <rcrook> there is a deb and a deb-src
[03:35] <rcrook> you dont really need the deb-src one tho
[03:35] <mattik> fribuntu: Do I can comment lines what I don't need?
[03:36] <koyo001> do i have to write universe
[03:36] <koyo001> at the end
[03:36] <koyo001> or just multiverse
[03:36] <rcrook> at the end you should have universe multiverse
[03:36] <koyo001> at the end of that line
[03:36] <fribuntu> mattik: You can.
[03:36] <koyo001> so i have to write universe
[03:36] <koyo001> and then multiverse
[03:37] <rcrook> just write multiverse after the universe thats there
[03:37] <fribuntu> mattik: Use "#" in the beginning of a line.
[03:37] <koyo001> there is no universe written there
[03:37] <mattik> fribuntu: thank you. I found error. I have pppoe-settings in /etc/network/interfaces -file
[03:37] <rcrook> hmmmm
[03:37] <fribuntu> mattik: But note you can only comment whole lines, not just parts.
[03:37] <mattik> ok
[03:38] <rcrook> the line should look like this ->>>> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[03:38] <koyo001> it says deb http>//cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/multiverse
[03:38] <rcrook> tho it might not be au.archive.
[03:38] <theholycow> Hello, people of Earth. Fear me, for I am here to enslave your whole race! That, or to ask a question...I'm not really sure which.
[03:39] <theholycow> Okay, I guess I'll just ask a question. That whole race-enslaving thing sounds like a lot of work.
[03:40] <koyo001> ok found the problem
[03:40] <rcrook> ok...  you need to ensure the distribution is edgy and then the colunm for component is universe multiverse
[03:40] <ganymed_> hi
[03:40] <koyo001> the column written universe was completely hidden
[03:40] <rcrook> ahhh
[03:40] <rcrook> ok
[03:41] <ganymed_> what is the standard prog for speed stepping (it is not powernowd anymore, is it)?
[03:41] <rcrook> powersave should do it for you
[03:41] <koyo001> what is powersave??/
[03:41] <theholycow> Is there an efficient way to save a series of screenshots in one file? I've been saving individual images with ksnapshot, but it would be much quicker and easier to deal with if I could have screenshots go straight to the clipboard, where I can paste them all in one place...
[03:42] <rcrook> powersave is a power management program for linux
[03:43] <koyo001> comment was intended for someone else i think
[03:43] <rcrook> theholycow: you could always paste the screenshots into operoffice write and save them as a pdf
[03:43] <mattik> fribuntu: firefox is now fast. It's more fast than firefox in XP.
[03:43] <rcrook> sorry koyo001, yes it was.
[03:43] <theholycow> rcrook: That's my plan, exactly. However, how do I get screenshots onto the clipboard? ksnapshot seems only to save.
[03:44] <rcrook> theholycow: ... good point let me see...
[03:45] <ganymed_> correction, powernowd is still used. don't know, thought i had seen it not installed in synaptic
[03:45] <theholycow> rcrook: The ksnapshot handbook says there's a button for using the clipboard, but I don't see it...
[03:45] <koyo001> ok now got a brand new question
[03:45] <koyo001> got 3 amules here
[03:46] <rcrook> theholycow: its right under the save as button on the version I am using
[03:46] <koyo001> amule
[03:46] <koyo001> amule common
[03:46] <koyo001> amule daemon
[03:46] <theholycow> rcrook: What version? V .7.1 included in Breezy Badger is what I've got.
[03:46] <koyo001> no i just wanna know wich one is the right one to install
[03:47] <drakeoutlaw> koyo001: amule
[03:47] <koyo001> ah
[03:47] <koyo001> gracias
[03:48] <drakeoutlaw> koyo001: it will automagically install others if needed
[03:48] <rcrook> theholycow: it says Ksnapshot 0.7 on my version.. I am using edgy
[03:49] <ganymed_> i use edgy. kaffeine used to work well (some issue with a window popping up twice for a second, but it started and worked), but now kaffeine just doesn't start. there is no output when i try starting it in a console
[03:49] <koyo001> wooooohoooo
[03:49] <koyo001> i think its gonna work
[03:49] <koyo001> if this works i am not going back to win
[03:49] <theholycow> rcrook: Argh...drat...curses...foiled again! <G> How can mine, which came with Breezy, by newer than yours from Edgy?
[03:50] <rcrook> no idea theholycow... LOL
[03:50] <ganymed_> seems to be since the first update, but as far as i remember this was just about updating the kernel libs
[03:50] <rcrook> koyo001: I dropped loserdoze as my primary os 5 years back... lol
[03:51] <rcrook> rcrook@trinity:~$ ksnapshot --version
[03:51] <rcrook> Qt: 3.3.6
[03:51] <rcrook> KDE: 3.5.5
[03:51] <rcrook> KSnapshot: 0.7
[03:51] <koyo001> i tried dropping win in 96 with red hat
[03:51] <ganymed_> noone has problems with kaffeine???
[03:51] <koyo001> but because i was still in school
[03:52] <koyo001> and didnt have time
[03:52] <koyo001> i just never could get time to learn
[03:52] <murchadh_bhaba> theholycow, Have you changed your repositories?
[03:52] <rcrook> thats the the version info on my ksnapshot theholycow
[03:52] <harmental> hi eveybody...
[03:52] <harmental> do u know any easy way to send international faxes using kubuntu?
[03:53] <theholycow> murchadh_bhaba: I added a special-purpose repository that just has Musicbrainz Picard, a couple months ago
[03:53] <rcrook> harmental: not something I have ever tried.. sorry
[03:57] <BluesKaj> what is inetd ?
[03:58] <koyo001> rcrook
[03:58] <Seveas> imbrandon, you around?
[03:58] <koyo001> thank you very mutch
[03:58] <koyo001> for all your help
[03:58] <koyo001> really apreciated
[03:58] <BluesKaj> !inetd
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <theholycow> BluesKaj: It's a meta-daemon. It listens on various ports and runs individual daemons only as necessary to respond to requests.
[03:59] <rcrook> no problems koyo001
[03:59] <koyo001> thanks alot
[03:59] <koyo001> i got amule installed
[03:59] <fribuntu> mattik: Well congratulations.
[03:59] <koyo001> now just gotta figure out how this one works
[03:59] <rcrook> inetd is the super daemon that is used to handle alot of the tcp/ip services
[03:59] <murchadh_bhaba> theholycow, If that's the only extra repo, it shouldn't account for you having a newer version than rcrook. Are your repos dapper or edgy (not as silly a question as it may appear)?
[03:59] <koyo001> seeya
[03:59] <robert> Ngon svensk hr som kan hjlpa mig?
[04:00] <rcrook> seeya koyo
[04:00] <robert> somebody goot at wlan? can't figure out how to install my wlan on linux?
[04:01] <theholycow> murchadh_bhaba: Nope, I just checked. My repos are definitely Breezy. However, maybe rcrook doesn't have edgy-updates.
[04:01] <rcrook> I do theholycow:)
[04:01] <BluesKaj> ok thx theholycow... trying to get permission fro my wife's windows pc to read and write over our network to this linux box , but i can't find any situations in samba/swat instructions that fit ...any ideas ?
[04:02] <murchadh_bhaba> theholycow, Seems likely!
[04:02] <theholycow> BluesKaj: Works for me, default out of the box, as far as configuration on the Ubuntu side. For Windows, be sure all permissions are set correctly.
[04:02] <rcrook> BluesKaj: permissions with samba can get really complicated...
[04:03] <BluesKaj> if i knew how to set them up correctly , I wouldn't need to ask :)
[04:03] <rcrook> if I remember that is some doco on the samba site that covers the permission
[04:03] <rcrook> let me see if I can remeber where they are
[04:04] <theholycow> BluesKaj: If it's XP, my experience has been that it's quite simple. I right-clicked a folder, went to "Sharing", and enabled R/W access.
[04:05] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: You trying to write to shares on a linux PC?
[04:05] <theholycow> BluesKaj: Then, I just went into Konqueror, went to the default page (" about:konqueror ") that links to "Network Folders", and accessed the XP box from there.
[04:05] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: That I can do, I'll sit at my Kubuntu machine and go through it with you if I can help.
[04:08] <BluesKaj> I can access the windows pc ok ...it's vice versa that want to do
[04:08] <MidMark> BluesKaj: samba?
[04:08] <BluesKaj> yes Murchadh
[04:08] <MidMark> have you created a user?
[04:08] <BluesKaj> yes samba
[04:08] <BluesKaj> where
[04:09] <Ace2016> hi all
[04:09] <Murchadh> theholycow: My fresh Kubuntu 6.10 shows ksnapshot version 0.7!
[04:09] <Ace2016> Will using a software raid give me a faster startup?
[04:09] <MidMark> smbpasswd -a <user>
[04:09] <MidMark> unfortunetally in the system settings creating a samba user doesn't take effects
[04:09] <theholycow> Murchadh: How did I wind up wiht .7.1? Weird!
[04:11] <BluesKaj> MidMark, I'm on the linuxbox ...I need to set it up so I can write from the windows pc to the linuxbox ...I have read/write access from the linuxbox to the windows pc , already.
[04:11] <theholycow> How can I assign a key combination to run a program? I think I'll just use scrot for my screen shots, which I'll assemble from individual files later...
[04:11] <MidMark> BluesKaj: I have understood, but you don't have the viceversa
[04:11] <BluesKaj> yup
[04:11] <MidMark> and I have tell to you how to do this
[04:12] <MidMark> ^^^^^^^^^^^
[04:12] <BluesKaj> well, someone
[04:12] <MidMark> http://www.samba.netfirms.com/addusers.htm
[04:12] <Murchadh> theholycow: Worth looking into. Can't find version 0.71 on google!
[04:13] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj: should be a simple case of installing samba then going to System Settings --> Sharing & setup your shares
[04:13] <MidMark> TheGateKeeper: no, if there is no user there is no way
[04:13] <MidMark> and the only way now is the way I have said
[04:13] <MidMark> or manually editing the config samba file
[04:14] <rcrook> Geez... its been awhile since I looked the doco up on sambas site.. theres plenty there ... the Howto up there may help. http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[04:15] <BluesKaj> TheGateKeeper...samba is installed , sharing is set up ...wife's windows pc just can't read/write to this linuxbox
[04:15] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Let's see what I have. Midmark, I don't add users to write to my shares. Anyone allowed through my firewall has full write access to my writeable shares.
[04:15] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Wife is running what Win Ver?
[04:16] <BluesKaj> Murchadh, there doesn't seem to be a anything on the smb.conf file either ... it's blank ..that must be a problem
[04:16] <MidMark> Murchadh: I haven't said to let writing nothing, I have said that without a user in samba config you will be never access from windows
[04:16] <BluesKaj> XP SP2 Pro
[04:16] <MidMark> anyway if you want to resolve you do like I have said
[04:16] <MidMark> bye
[04:17] <rcrook> here is an exaple of a share config I have set up on my local lan
[04:17] <rcrook> [public] 
[04:17] <ubuntu_> ne lan
[04:17] <rcrook>         comment = Public Data
[04:17] <rcrook>         path = /net/public
[04:17] <rcrook>         read only = No
[04:17] <rcrook>         create mask = 0666
[04:17] <rcrook>         directory mask = 0777
[04:17] <rcrook>         inherit permissions = Yes
[04:17] <rcrook>         force user = rcrook
[04:17] <rcrook>         force group = rcrook
[04:17] <mindspin> !paste
[04:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:18] <rcrook> thanks mindspin:)
[04:18] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj: well that is what I did a while back on my test box, but if you are trying to do things without any users or something odd ball then you are going to have to trawl through 100 of pages of documentation trying to figure out what's going wrong
[04:19] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:20] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Is the linux PC firewalled.
[04:20] <ubuntu_> hi girls
[04:20] <theholycow> Okay, my partial solution to my screenshot need: I ran Kcontrol, searched for "hotkey", and found it unintuitively placed in "Regional & Accessibility". I assigned a hotkey to run a script which is as follows: "cd ~/Documents/scrot && scrot". I tried just putting that command in the hotkey definition, but it wouldn't run; instead it tried to open that in konqueror.
[04:20] <ubuntu_> fuck you grl
[04:20] <BluesKaj> no Murchadh , we're behind a router
[04:20] <Jucato> yay! :)
[04:21] <Jucato> that was pretty swift, apokryphos
[04:21] <apokryphos> :)
[04:21] <BluesKaj> good one apokryphos
[04:21] <theholycow> That all results in my PrintScreen key quickly, easily, and non-troublesomely saving a file. Later, I can just dump them all into one file.
[04:21] <Murchadh> apokryphos: hehe. Niiiisse!
[04:21] <apokryphos> some rude words on highlight, yeah
[04:22] <theholycow> Is there a command that can copy an image file to the clipboard? I could put that in my script, and really make my day...
[04:22] <rcrook> theholycow: you could use gimp
[04:22] <BluesKaj> Murchadh, i have no text whatsoever in the smb.conf file ...isn't that strange ?
[04:22] <Murchadh> theholycow: I'd write that as a scriopt, save it where you keep scripts, and point at the script from there.
[04:23] <Jucato> theholycow: I'm not sure if either Ctrl+PrintScreen or Alt+PrintScreen copies directly to the clipboard
[04:23] <theholycow> rcrook: gimp --help tells me that there's a batch mode. Maybe that would work.
[04:23] <Jucato> but they're in Keyboard Shortcuts... haven't really used them..
[04:23] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Yeah. If you right click on a folder in home, and click properties, do you get a sharing option as a tab along the top of the dialog that pops up.
[04:23] <theholycow> d'oh!
[04:24] <theholycow> Jucato: You're right! Alt-printscreen seems to do the job.
[04:24] <theholycow> That's what I was looking for all along... :)
[04:25] <BluesKaj> Murchadh , that's not what i asked
[04:25] <Jucato> theholycow: glad I could randomly help :P
[04:26] <llutz> hi
[04:26] <rcrook> hi llutz
[04:27] <ubuntu> lol
[04:27] <theholycow> Sweet! Now I can finally do that homework... ;)
[04:27] <rcrook> lol
[04:29] <BluesKaj> Murchadh what oes this mean "smbpasswd -a <user>" ... am i supposed to use a username in <user> or a password .. it's confusing to me ?
[04:31] <BluesKaj> theholycow, ? someone ? what does this mean "smbpasswd -a <user>" ?.. am i supposed to use a username in <user> or a password .. it's confusing to me
[04:31] <rcrook> yes.. it means you supply a username
[04:31] <theholycow> BluesKaj: username, I guess
[04:31] <BluesKaj> guess ...lets not guess
[04:31] <rcrook> ge: smbpasswd -a rcrook
[04:32] <rcrook> it will then ask you for a password
[04:32] <theholycow> BluesKaj: smbpasswd --help says -a is "add user"
[04:32] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: You need a smb.conf. Are you sure it's not there at /etc/samba?
[04:32] <rcrook> make it the same as the username and password your wife has on the windows box
[04:33] <BluesKaj> hangon Murchadh, lemme look
[04:35] <BluesKaj> Murchadh, yup it's there in the samba folder , no wonder i couldn't call it up ...kdesu kate ..doesn't work on folders
[04:36] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: hehe
[04:36] <BluesKaj> ok, now what am i looking for in the smb.conf file , Murchadh?
[04:39] <Murchadh> [DATA] 
[04:39] <Murchadh> path = /DATA
[04:39] <Murchadh> guest ok = yes
[04:39] <Murchadh> read only = no
[04:39] <Murchadh> BluesKaj, I have the following lines for a share (at the bottom of the file) - [data]  -NL- path= /DATA -NL- guest ok = yes -NL- read only = no (-NL- means a newline).
[04:39] <ravermeister> hello i've got a problem....
[04:40] <ravermeister> i use knetworkmanager to make a connection to my wpa secured wlan network
[04:40] <curuxz> hey all im trying to get my printer working in kde, its a printer on a windows pc and in Smb4k i can browse the win box fine and see it, yet when i go to printers in systems settings and press scan it can see the pc but WONT let me browse it saying "NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED" any ideas please?
[04:40] <ravermeister> but everytime i restart my computer
[04:40] <ravermeister> i have to put in my password and i get an errormessage from the kdewallet
[04:40] <ravermeister> what can i do to fix this??
[04:40] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Have a look through to see that "valid users =" isn't set for now.
[04:41] <Murchadh> Sorry! My paste had already worked.
[04:42] <ravermeister> the error message is this one: http://virusmaster.homelinux.com/networkmanager.jpg
[04:43] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Removing ; enables the line! ?-}
[04:43] <Red-Sox> http://pastebin.ca/281167
[04:43] <xsacha> anyone know a nice standalone GUI debugger? (not integrated into an IDE and not insight)
[04:43] <Red-Sox> any ideas?
[04:43] <ravermeister> but when i open the kdewallet, the password is stored there yet look here: http://virusmaster.homelinux.com/wallet.jpg
[04:43] <ravermeister> please help me
[04:44] <hexidigital_> can anyone provide info on how to remove the pixelated border from konsole? i want to have a transparent terminal for TOP & other admin tools
[04:44] <christiane> Hello. I installed 6.10 on /dev/sda6. Now I repartitioned, created a new /dev/sda6 while my old /dev/sda6 is now /dev/sda7, copied all files from new 7 to new 6 and booted grub (which loaded new 6 as /). Now ubuntu is running, / is the new 6 (I can see the new size of /), but it's called /dev/sda7. WTF happened here? There's no sda7 entry in syslog or dmesg.
[04:47] <BluesKaj> nope Murchadh, still no access from windows pc
[04:47] <ravermeister> nobody a solution for me?
[04:49] <Murchadh> Red-Sox: You're versions are too new for the version of gnutella you're trying to install. Hmmm....
[04:50] <tilli> hallo
[04:50] <tilli> jemand da?
[04:50] <Red-Sox> Murchadh: Oh...
[04:50] <Murchadh> Red-Sox: Sounds like you need to update a repository.
[04:51] <tilli> i hate widows
[04:51] <Murchadh> tilli: From what I can ascertain, you are in the right place!
[04:52] <Murchadh> Red-Sox: Paste-bin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:53] <tilli> can someone tell my how i can play mp3s with amarok?
[04:53] <tilli> sorry, i am a newbie
[04:54] <Red-Sox> http://pastebin.ca/281169
[04:54] <Red-Sox> Murchadh: ^
[04:54] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: First off, I don't have a winpc to see if I can access samba shares. My dsl laptop, kubuntu laptop, and xbox all see my kubuntu shares. Midmark may be onto something about having to add samba users!
[04:54] <Red-Sox> Murchadh: and Edgy
[04:55] <Murchadh> Red-Sox: You are mixing repos there. Not good!
[04:56] <Murchadh> Red-Sox: Probably picking up the latest dapper version of ksnapshot which is looking for old libs.
[04:56] <ArrAKeeN> hello
[04:57] <Murchadh> Red-Sox: At this stage, I think commenting out all dapper repos, or updating them to edgy. Anyone else; ideas?
[04:59] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: You don't have anything other than a windows laptop to check access to your kubuntu shares. I'd suggest a DSL livedisk or somesuch. Boot girlfriends laptop, and try to samba mount your shares. At least then we'll have narrowed down the problem
[04:59] <BluesKaj> Murchadh, do I add samba users in the smb.conf file or in the terminal ...I followed his  smbpasswd [options]  [username]  etc in the terminal but it doesn't work on the windows pc
[04:59] <ubuntu> jest ktos z POLSKI?
[05:00] <Jucato> !pl
[05:00] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:02] <pulltab> I'd honestly have to say that Suse is better.
[05:03] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Read the sections under Authentication in smb.conf. I have those sections all commented out. Check yours...
[05:03] <BluesKaj> Murchadh , both pcs are desktops , and connected to a seimens router ...no laptops here
[05:05] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Still recomend a live cd to troubleshoout. You can boot girlfriends pc with dynabolic or dsl, try to mount the samba shares. If it works, there are windows iossues we must sort out, if you can't access them from linux we'll know there is more to to on Kubuntu file sharer.
[05:05] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: A live distro won't change a thing on the WinPC!
[05:06] <Murchadh> BluesKaj:  issues even!
[05:07] <BluesKaj> Murchadh, my wife's windows pc is accessible from the linuxbox
[05:09] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Sorry wife's PC. Yeah I know. I just want to find out if your PC is actually sharing anything. I've forgotten most of my windows training, so I'm trying a different route to establish that there is actually something to connect to. ?-)
[05:11] <Murchadh> BluesKaj:  Just trying to narrow down the range of problems. No point trying to connect to something that isn't really shared properly.
[05:13] <rcrook> night all
[05:14] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: My methods might not make much sense, I dunno. I use Dynabolic and DSL to troubleshoot dodgy PC's all the time. Especially in virus troubled installations/networks! Boot from a live cd, do your bits and pieces look around, isolate problems, reboot, back in the users OS!
[05:14] <BluesKaj> ok, Murchadh NP :) the windows partition on this box and wife's can share files
[05:15] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: There is a windows install on your PC also?
[05:15] <BluesKaj> yes
[05:15] <BluesKaj> I would like to migrate to linux totally tho
[05:15] <BluesKaj> on this pc
[05:19] <BluesKaj> I also have access to this windows partition from wife's pc
[05:20] <BluesKaj> and access from the linux partition to wifes pc
[05:20] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Doesn't really help. Just means the networking is setup right which we knew.
[05:20] <BluesKaj> but no access from wifes windows to this linuxbox
[05:20] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: First off, how mine works. I'm just thinking back to my own situation. I dunno that I got sharing working on Kubuntu until I setup firestarter and allowed the IPs of all PCs that were to have access. It might be worth a try. Give me 5 mins, and I'll have a root through some notes.
[05:22] <wildchild> how can I load .sub and .idy subtitles with kaffeine?
[05:22] <wildchild> .idx*
[05:29] <shadowhywind> hay all just a quick question, if a filesystem is readonly. how would i go about changing it to read+ write, and its a vfat
[05:31] <Murchadh> shadowhywind: You have to add umask=000 to your /etc/fstab or mount command. Like this sudo mount -t vfat -o re,umask=000 /dev/h??? /media/h??? (replace ??? with da1 or whatever).
[05:32] <Murchadh> shadowhywind: sudo umount /dev/h??? first to unmount it.
[05:35] <imbrandon> Seveas: yea
[05:36] <Seveas> dennis@mirage:~$ ssh imbrandon.sytes.net
[05:36] <Seveas> ssh: connect to host imbrandon.sytes.net port 10022: Connection refused
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:36] <imbrandon> Seveas: crap , ok give me a sec
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Lots of good info there.. worth bookmarking for all your ntfs/vfat needs. :)
[05:39] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: My install procedure involves setting up firestarter and allowing all my PC's access to the services on this kubuntu box. Until we can establish that it's possible to connect to your kubuntu shares at all, there is no point in trying to figure out why windows won't connect.
[05:40] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: The fact that they connect under windows just tells us that the wiring and hardware are OK.
[05:40] <BluesKaj> what does a FW have to do with the prob?
[05:42] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: How do we establish whether it is possible to connect to your kubuntu shares? I still recommend a live boot cd. I can then help you establish that kubuntu is in fact making that share available. ?)
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Last i set up samba on kubuntu, i had to enable the home shares in the samba.conf (make them writeable also) and perhaps browsewable, then for each user do a 'sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME'
[05:43] <Dr_willis> that was after installing the samba and samba-doc packages
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !info samba-docs
[05:43] <ubotu> Package samba-docs does not exist in any distro I know
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !find samba
[05:43] <ubotu> Found: python2.4-samba, samba, samba-common, samba-dbg, samba-doc (and 6 others)
[05:44] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Boot dsl, open a term, sudo smbmount //ip_address/share_name /mount_point. There is an equivalent means in windows, I'm sure, but I'm not that man!
[05:46] <teclo> Hello. Everytime I run kcontrol or kdmtheme, and disable themes, I get SIGSEGV !
[05:46] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: My sharing requirements are minimal, anyone who can get past my firewall can access my shares, so I don't use the users section.
[05:47] <Murchadh> teclo: What version.
[05:47] <teclo> Murchadh: 3.5.2
[05:47] <apokryphos> and what's "disable themes"?
[05:47] <Murchadh> teclo: And Kubuntu ver?
[05:47] <apokryphos> do you mean change themes?
[05:47] <teclo> apokryphos: there's an option called "disable themes"
[05:48] <teclo> Murchadh: 6.06
[05:49] <Alarm> hello. i got a simple but kind of weird question. i changed from the control center the to sans serif 8. the fonts did really change in the k-meny and konqueror menu as well. but under firefox or the adept manager the fonts are still huge. how can that be changed ?
[05:49] <apokryphos> teclo: does the problem happen when you use kubuntu's system settings?
[05:49] <teclo> ah it's called "Enable KDE themes"
[05:49] <teclo> apokryphos: Yes, it also happens that way
[05:49] <BluesKaj> well anyway thanks for trying Murchadh ...eventually I'll convince wifey to run linux and then the problem should go away :)
[05:49] <wildchild> how can I encrypt file with edgy=
[05:49] <wildchild> ?*
[05:49] <teclo> It happens when I use kdmtheme directly
[05:49] <teclo> or when I use the the system settings
[05:50] <apokryphos> no useful output on the command line?
[05:50] <xsacha> anyone know why kmd is all gtk when it has a k in it? :( i was hoping it would be qt
[05:50] <apokryphos> if you want to change your KDM theme then you can edit the kdmrc file manually
[05:50] <Murchadh> teclo: Yeah, That started to crash on me to. I made several posts about it way back, but now use 6.10. There were 2 or three things in control panel that used crash kubuntu. It had worked for ages before that.
[05:50] <xsacha> this one: kmd http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/1541/debuggerbm6.png
[05:51] <teclo> apokryphos: kdmrc manually ? great
[05:52] <apokryphos> teclo: if the app is broken of course the only thing I can tell you to do is file a bug report
[05:52] <Murchadh> Alarm: Firefox uses the gtk settings I think. So > System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts. Report back....
[05:52] <apokryphos> past that, if you need a workaround, you can edit the file.
[05:52] <apokryphos> which isn't that cryptic
[05:52] <dromer> hey all, I'm having trouble getting mplayer to play certain streaming media (mplayer-plugin)
[05:52] <Alarm> Murchadh:  i did activate to use kde fonts, didnt change
[05:52] <teclo> apokryphos: bug reports seem to be useless with ubuntu/kubuntu. I already sent many of them, there is no progress of any kind on these bugs.
[05:53] <dromer> the plugin connects to the media, and starts buffering, but eventually doesn't play
[05:53] <apokryphos> teclo: bug number?
[05:53] <teclo> apokryphos: it's useless
[05:54] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: You still need to establish that kubuntu is sharing properly. It's brought me back though...
[05:54] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Nice chatting to you...
[05:55] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Windows, hmmm...
[05:56] <teclo> okay where in the kdmrc file do I have to change to disable the kdm theme ?
[05:56] <Murchadh> Alarm: GTK Styles Use Another Style => QT, GTK Fonts Use another font (say 20).Stop firefox, restart firefox.;
[05:57] <apokryphos> teclo: see the howto on kdelook.org
[05:58] <Alarm> i do: use my kde style in gtk apps , and kde fonts in gtk apps . so it should be everywhere the same i guess
[05:59] <Murchadh> Just set my Firefox to use a cursive script, looks silly, but cute. Awww...
[05:59] <Murchadh> Changing back...
[06:00] <Murchadh> Pretending to be a grown up....
[06:00] <Alarm> a kind of weird question. which font looks more similar to the default font of windows ?
[06:02] <dr0fnax> !xgl
[06:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:03] <Black5un> !vnc
[06:03] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:05] <steveire> I find firefox very slow to start on Kubuntu. I use konqueror for everything except gmail (for which I use opera). Any one else have a slow ff?
[06:06] <Aaron_S> nope
[06:06] <Murchadh> Alarm: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxFonts.html and http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/res_fonts.htm are good reads. Interesting stuff too.
[06:06] <makka__> ciao a tutti
[06:06] <Alarm> thanks
[06:07] <Murchadh> steveire: Have you many add-ons, etc.?
[06:07] <steveire> No, don't think so.
[06:07] <makka__> Hi all,I wanted to know if anyone knows how to configure kopete beause I think it's quite illegibile http://www.ilsoftware.it/forum/download.php?id=2842 thnak's a lot,evenif noone is able to answer :D
[06:07] <Murchadh> makka__: I only use it for IRC. Can I be of help?
[06:08] <hatta> hi I'm having some trouble with amarok on kubuntu
[06:08] <Murchadh> steveire: What version FF, what version OS?
[06:08] <hatta> when I try to configure my collection it only shows me two folders
[06:08] <BluesKaj> koptete is for IMs , otherwise it sucks for IRC
[06:08] <hatta>  /home and /media
[06:08] <makka__> it's kopete ofor msn
[06:08] <hatta> do you know how I can make it show all my folders?
[06:09] <steveire> ff2.0 Edgy. It's not a major problem. I far prefer Konq. I just wish it could use gmail chat.
[06:09] <Murchadh> hatta: Are you on kubuntu 6.10? Then most root folders are hidden.
[06:09] <Murchadh> !hidden
[06:09] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:09] <hatta> that's a feature?!
[06:09] <Murchadh> hatta: hehe
[06:09] <BluesKaj> hatta, let amarok scan your drive for music files
[06:09] <makka__> It's appear :one contact deep blue,the other white,i can't read.I think it's a confguration problem,but I can't see how to fix it
[06:10] <PhinnFort> !beforelight
[06:10] <hatta> I only have a few folders with music files, it would be silly for it to scan 100gb of crap for no reason
[06:10] <ubotu> beforelight: X client - beforelight. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:10] <PhinnFort> hatta: you can choose which folders to scan
[06:11] <Murchadh> hatta: You can just delete /.hidden or rename it or remove the name of the folder you want visible from that file. It's a simple text file, anything in it is hidden bu konqueror but accessible all the same, as long as you know whaere it is.
[06:11] <PhinnFort> is beforelight needed for anything?
[06:11] <hatta> Murchadh, great thanks
[06:14] <PhinnFort> what pros has adept compared to kpackage?
[06:14] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: What don't you like about kopete? I used to use konversation, and I really liked it, but I've started to use kopete recently. Configured it to my liking and leave it run. Have xchat 2.4.3 on my 9 year old dsl-n laptop.
[06:15] <fribuntu> PhinnFort: Use whichever you prefer.
[06:15] <fribuntu> fribuntu: I use aptitude :)
[06:15] <PhinnFort> just wondering;)
[06:16] <fribuntu> PhinnFort: errm, I use aptitude
[06:16] <PhinnFort> kpackage seems much better, but it isn't default
[06:16] <fribuntu> PhinnFort: Kpackage can work with more than just "deb", I think.
[06:16] <PhinnFort> yeah
[06:16] <BluesKaj> xchat is ok ...konversation is my preference ...kopete is buggy and arcane
[06:16] <PhinnFort> i used it under gentoo too
[06:17] <PhinnFort> kopete is very good
[06:17] <PhinnFort> you should try it
[06:17] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: There are many package managers, and some are better at removing installs than others. You'll probably get many people expressing an opinion on which is best. I use adept, and run dpkg -l > ~/Applists/Applist.yyymmdd after all upgrade/downgrades. Keeps atrack of all installed software which is easily diff'ed with previous Applist.???????? files to establish changes to the system and enable repair.
[06:18] <PhinnFort> well, it was just an observation, since adept seems awfully sluggish
[06:18] <fribuntu> PhinnFort: If you want a fast package manager, try "aptitude".
[06:19] <PhinnFort> well, kpackage seems to be just as snappy;)
[06:19] <PhinnFort> and the interface is better than aptitude, but that's my opinion
[06:21] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Example: at a prompt: dpkg -l > ~/Applists/Applist.existing, run adept (or whatever, apt-get) and install something, then dpkg -l > ~/Applists/Applist.new, then diff ~/Applists/Applist.existing ~/Applists/Applist.new
[06:23] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: You can pipe the output into a file with a name that explains what it is like Apps.Diff.yyymmdd.yyyymmdd.
[06:24] <PhinnFort> ok
[06:24] <PhinnFort> how do i restart a service with that nifty new service manager?
[06:25] <PhinnFort> !lighttpd
[06:25] <ubotu> lighttpd: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.13~r1370-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 288 kB, installed size 852 kB
[06:26] <PhinnFort> !lighttpd&php
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lighttpd&php - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <Murchadh> I think adept has a name for being slow, but I think it gets all permissions straight before it starts, synaptic and kpackage only access the lock files when you actually say yes to an install. Is this accurate? Sometimes the password screen for adept disappears but no adept, clicking it again brings it up properly. I have a black hole somewhere, full of unhappy adepts!
[06:28] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Are you in Administrator Mode?
[06:28] <PhinnFort> ?
[06:28] <PhinnFort> root?
[06:28] <PhinnFort> i sudo it before i run it, yes
[06:28] <wimpies> Need some help getting my sound back up.  The modules do not want to load anymore claing version mismatch ...
[06:28] <BluesKaj> trying kopete ...it's certainly different ...these silly icons next to nicks gotta go :)
[06:29] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:29] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: No, bottom of screen beside the close button.
[06:29] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: you lost me...
[06:30] <PhinnFort> i don't have a close button
[06:30] <PhinnFort> i've got a rather filled kicker with applets, systray and some apps
[06:30] <BluesKaj> yeah, where is the close button
[06:30] <PhinnFort> i have one in the top right corner though
[06:31] <BluesKaj> yup
[06:31] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: System Settings > Advanced > System Services (Under System Administration). Then you shoud see administrator Mode button.
[06:31] <PhinnFort> ah...
[06:31] <PhinnFort> i just did /etc/init.d/lighttpd restart
[06:32] <PhinnFort> (it was lighttpd i needed to restart, btw)
[06:32] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Can you do it via the GUI now?
[06:32] <BluesKaj> i'm talking about these dumb kopete icons beside the nicks in the channel text
[06:32] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: tried a different theme?
[06:33] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Try it in Gaim mode or Clear.
[06:34] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: Settings > Configure > Appearance > Chat Window
[06:34] <Murchadh> BluesKaj: I'm using clear but like gaim too.
[06:34] <PhinnFort> or click "get new..." and download glossyk
[06:34] <PhinnFort> darn purtty
[06:34] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:35] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: glossyk will have to be given a chance then!
[06:35] <PhinnFort> :D
[06:35] <wimpies> are there know issues with edgy and 2.6.17-10 kernel ? AKA. how can I reinstall a linux kernel ?
[06:35] <jenda> There is a quiz at 20:00 UTC tonight in #ubuntu-trivia! Be sure to attend, and if you're lucky, you might win a prime Ubuntu Poster! (Today's sponsor: rob)
[06:36] <PhinnFort> "2006-12-16 18:36:02: (mod_fastcgi.c.1034) to be exact: it seg-fault, crashed, died, ... you get the idea."
[06:36] <jenda> :)
[06:36] <PhinnFort> #ubuntu-trivia! is empty... watch that punctuation
[06:36] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:37] <pierreth> hello, do you know how I can segment a file?
[06:37] <PhinnFort> pierreth: split it?
[06:37] <PhinnFort> try ark
[06:37] <pierreth> yes
[06:37] <PhinnFort> i think ark has support for splitting archives
[06:37] <pierreth> OK
[06:37] <saharaab> hallo
[06:38] <PhinnFort> saharaab: hello
[06:38] <hatta> is krusader available in edgy?
[06:38] <apokryphos> !info krusader
[06:38] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[06:39] <hatta> I don't seem to be able to apt-get it
[06:39] <apokryphos> you need to enable the Universe repository
[06:39] <apokryphos> hatta: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[06:39] <nalioth> hatta: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[06:39] <hatta> thanks
[06:39] <hatta> I'll read up
[06:39] <PhinnFort> !dolphin
[06:39] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[06:40] <PhinnFort> !universe
[06:40] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:43] <spitwise> !multiverse
[06:43] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:45] <xenol> plz why i get "There was an error commiting changes. Posiblly there was a problem downloading some packages and or the commmit would break packages." type error when i want to install new updates?
[06:46] <PhinnFort> xenol: first run "sudo apt-get updgrade" in a konsole and copy&paste the output to rafb.net/paste
[06:47] <PhinnFort> then read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[06:47] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:49] <pierreth> PhinnFort: No I don't think so
[06:49] <xenol> !paste
[06:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:49] <PhinnFort> pierreth: do you have java?
[06:49] <PhinnFort> if so, try hjsplit
[06:49] <pierreth> PhinnFort: No
[06:49] <xenol> ok the log is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37396/
[06:50] <PhinnFort> fscking slow server...
[06:50] <BluesKaj> kopete is fluffy eye candy ...too much attn to the look , not enuff to ease of use
[06:51] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: how so?
[06:51] <Jucato> xenol: are you on Dapper?
[06:52] <PhinnFort> xenol: could you paste your sources.list too?
[06:52] <xenol> can anyone help me plz?
[06:52] <Jucato> :O
[06:52] <blue> hi guys, instead of switching to a full unstable ubuntu, is it possible to install unstable apps of my choice?
[06:52] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort, it's my opinion , ya don't have to agree :)
[06:52] <xenol> yep i am on dapper
[06:52] <PhinnFort> xenol: if you answer questions, you will get help
[06:52] <xenol> ok sec i copy my sorces list
[06:53] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: i just don't see much they could've done different;)
[06:53] <Jucato> xenol: did you follow the instructions about adding the key mentioned in this page? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-16.php
[06:54] <BluesKaj> <---not  really visual type ...if it's suprefluous , get rid of it :)
[06:54] <xenol> jucato first time i did that upgrade at friend when i did at home i got this error
[06:54] <xenol> !paste
[06:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:54] <xenol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37398/
[06:55] <xenol> !restricted formats
[06:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:58] <ubuntu> AA
[06:58] <ubuntu> AA
[06:58] <ubuntu> merda
[06:59] <xenol> how can i redownload packages? :p
[06:59] <pierreth> PhinnFort: I found split but I don't know how to put back the files toghter
[06:59] <h4netdeeds> merda
[06:59] <h4netdeeds> s
[07:01] <h4netdeeds> merd
[07:01] <h4netdeeds> algum brasileiro ai?
[07:01] <Jucato_> !br
[07:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:02] <gephalt> are there any applications that can help to convert .lit in linux?
[07:02] <h4netdeeds> eu quero saber como entrar na brasnet?
[07:04] <Murchadh> pierreth: cat file1 file2 > file3
[07:04] <h4netdeeds> #porradarock
[07:06] <Murchadh> pierreth: cat file1 file2 > file3 creates file3 from file1 and file2. cat file1 file2 >> file3 adds the contents of file 1 and file2 to file3.
[07:07] <oen> cze :D
[07:07] <xenol> so anyone got any ideas about my prob plz?
[07:09] <urli> lalalla
[07:09] <urli> ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[07:09] <urli> wkklrleflj 9ir34f
[07:10] <urli> lalalal
[07:10] <urli> Q  mierda es estoooooooooooo
[07:11] <xenol> why is everyone ignoring me? :/
[07:16] <toruser_767> !kernel
[07:16] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:19] <bitki> i installed an nvidia driver off nvidia's website, now X fails to start, how do i install the old driver ?
[07:20] <matthew> bitki, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:20] <matthew> bitki, I think
[07:20] <kraetzichriz> How to enter my mail-address on konversation?
[07:21] <Murchadh> xenol: Try sudo apt-get remove package: sudo apt-get install package or sudo dpkg-reconfigure package
[07:21] <kraetzichriz> I'm always getting this error:
[07:21] <kraetzichriz> [19:19]  [468]  Connect with your real username, in lowercase.
[07:21] <kraetzichriz> [19:19]  [468]  If your mail address were foo@bar.com, your username would be foo.
[07:21] <kraetzichriz> [19:19]  [error]  Closing Link: kraetzichriz by ign.ie.quakenet.org (USER: Bad username)
[07:24] <wimpies> can *Anybody* help me out getting my sound modules back loadable.  after update/crash or whatever they claim invalid version
[07:27] <wimpies> please ... ?
[07:28] <huston> only english???
[07:28] <LjL> !en
[07:28] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:31] <pierreth> Murchadh: OK, I was not sure if things worked with binary
[07:33] <sebastian> Hey guys
[07:33] <sebastian> I came here cause I got very frustrated with iptables
[07:33] <sebastian> It won't forward packets
[07:33] <kraetzichriz> sebastian: try #iptables
[07:33] <sebastian> OK
[07:37] <esaym> crud i forgot how to install Synaptic
[07:37] <esaym> i cant use apt-get right?
[07:38] <matthew> esaym, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:38] <esaym> hmm i just tried that i thought, one sec
[07:38] <matthew> esaym, I gotta go...sorry.
[07:39] <esaym> oh it works, cant have capital S
[07:39] <arunkale> hey people, does any one know any good bittorrent clients for kde apart from ktorrent and azureus
[07:40] <bubu1uk> bittorrent, or i use rtorrent, but it's console
[07:40] <arunkale> bittorent has a linux version?
[07:40] <cloakable> Yup
[07:41] <arunkale> does it work better than ktorrent
[07:41] <bubu1uk> either GUI for it.
[07:41] <bubu1uk> dunno, it's about same. what u mean better?
[07:42] <arunkale> i mean, ktorrent stopped working for me
[07:42] <bubu1uk> why?
[07:42] <Murchadh> There's also bittornado, but I find ktorrent good!
[07:42] <arunkale> it only seeds, it doesnt leech
[07:43] <ollie> hi guys
[07:43] <ollie> does anyone know
[07:43] <ollie> why this happend
[07:43] <ollie> *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60.
[07:43] <ollie> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[07:43] <ollie> make[1] : *** [cvs]  Error 1
[07:43] <ollie> doesnt really make much sense to me :/
[07:44] <Jucato> hm...
[07:45] <ollie> was trying to compile kxdocker
[07:46] <Jucato> you have the necessary devel packages installed, I presume?
[07:46] <arunkale> Yo Jucato
[07:46] <Jucato> I'm not sure if automake1.9 is also needed
[07:46] <arunkale> whats up!
[07:46] <Jucato> hi arunkale
[07:46] <arunkale> long time
[07:46] <Jucato> heh yeah
[07:46] <ollie> well, it seems to crash on an error with autoconf
[07:46] <Jucato> what's up? I'm up, at 2:45 AM
[07:46] <ollie> i may re-install autoconf
[07:46] <ollie> and see what happens
[07:47] <Jucato> ok, but check if you have kde-devel and automake (latest version) installed too
[07:47] <ollie> whoa
[07:47] <ollie> this might explain a few things
[07:47] <ollie> i think kde-devel was missing :)
[07:47] <ollie> cheers hehe
[07:47] <ollie> cya
[07:49] <Jucato> heh
[07:50] <papamaco> sziasztok
[07:51] <kulbir>  how do I Disable the firewall?
[07:51] <Murchadh> kulbir: What firewall is running and where?
[07:52] <kulbir> iptables
[07:54] <kulbir> hello
[07:54] <Murchadh> kulbir: ipchains -F is how on ipchains. look here http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=749681&admit=-682735245+1166295238855+28353475
[07:55] <Murchadh> kulbir: service iptables stop
[07:55] <kulbir> Murchadh thanks man :D
[07:56] <Murchadh> kulbir: Hope it worked. Don't forget to put it back on when you've finished sorting out whatever it is! ?)
[07:58] <kulbir> service iptables stop is not working.
[08:00] <kulbir> Murchadh done thanks :)
[08:00] <Alarm> hello, i just installed the latest jdk succesfully, and when i try to run an application i get the following:  Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
[08:00] <Alarm> ls: /usr/java: No such file or directory
[08:00] <Alarm> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[08:00] <Alarm> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com
[08:00] <Alarm> How could this be fixed ?
[08:01] <Murchadh> kulbir: Great!
[08:02] <pabloodissea_> hello
[08:05] <pabloodissea_> I have a problem with kcontrol... if I attempt to set monitor stop... the new configuration isn't saved by kcontrol!!!
[08:07] <xenol> k can someone give me repository where can i download koffice-data koffice-libs krita krita-data and libcms1 from plz?
[08:10] <pabloodissea_> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-161 edgy main
[08:12] <|WAL|> can someone tell me where the instructions for playing mp3's on Kubuntu are?
[08:13] <xenol> !restricted formats
[08:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:13] <xenol> here
[08:13] <xenol> the first link
[08:13] <xenol> just downlaod libxine-extracodecs
[08:13] <|WAL|> txs
[08:13] <drkm> I have just installed kubuntu-desktop.. but the keyboard map installed in English-US.. I'm in the UK so how can I install English-UK?
[08:14] <xenol> drkm go to kmenu system setting
[08:15] <BluesKaj> drkm, system/settings/regional&language
[08:15] <drkm> BluesKaj: yeah I know where to change it, but if I select Add Language, it only has English-US.. no option for UK?
[08:16] <BluesKaj> country region and languge tab
[08:17] <drkm> BluesKaj: yeah it is set as United Kingdom.. but the keyboard map is still for a US keybaord
[08:17] <BluesKaj> once you choose uk , british english will be an option
[08:17] <xenol> blueskaj dont u know where from i can downlaod koffice-data koffice-libs krita krita-data and libcms1?
[08:17] <Murchadh> drkm: Do you use adept.
[08:18] <drkm> BluesKaj: it's not on mine.. I can only choose English-US
[08:18] <drkm> Murchadh: no, that's that?
[08:18] <BluesKaj> xenol , have you tried adept or synaptic
[08:18] <xenol> yes but i get error and in console it says erro 404
[08:19] <xenol> for the repository where i can downlaod it frm
[08:19] <xenol> dont u know some other?
[08:19] <BluesKaj> no sorry
[08:19] <xenol> :/
[08:19] <drkm> Murchadh: ?
[08:21] <eMaX> re
[08:21] <xenol> !krita
[08:21] <BluesKaj> strange drkm, are you choosing your region first? if you don't you have no other options
[08:21] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2463 kB, installed size 7768 kB
[08:21] <xenol> plz anyone know where can i download koffice-data koffice-libs krita krita-data and libcms1 from? plz
[08:21] <Murchadh> drkm: Trying to find the name of the keyboard driver to use?
[08:22] <drkm> BluesKaj: yep, selecting UK then Add Language and it's just English-US
[08:22] <apokryphos> xenol: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[08:22] <xenol> o
[08:22] <xenol> ok
[08:22] <drkm> murchadh_bhaba: there isn't a problem with the drivers as Gnome was fine with it.. I just have to change the keyboard over to UK somehow in KDe
[08:22] <drkm> Murchadh: above was for you..
[08:22] <rag_> please help me!
[08:22] <Murchadh> xenol: They're in the repositories. You must need to enable them. If you have any trouble pastebin them.
[08:23] <xenol> from konsole?
[08:23] <rag_> why a rt61 wifi card not works command dhclient ra0?
[08:23] <Dr_willis> !repo
[08:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:23] <BluesKaj> xenol, google drkm, /login manager/admin mode
[08:23] <xenol> !paste
[08:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:23] <ryanakca> d'arvit... how do I change my keyboard map in KDE without using System Settings? (That particular module is... kaput... for me)
[08:24] <xenol> murchadh http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37420/ here it is
[08:24] <amitron> I have a problem with my X-server. I can't quite run programs from a Gentoo machine (omega, 192.168.0.11) on my Kubuntu machine (AMITRON, 192.168.0.103). This is what I run: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37419/
[08:24] <drkm> BluesKaj: I dont' understand you there, what do you mean?
[08:24] <BluesKaj> sys/setttings
[08:25] <Dr_willis> error :  http://kubuntu.org dapper/main koffice-data 1:1.6.0-0ubuntu1~dapper1  404 not found..
[08:25] <drkm> BluesKaj: still don't see what you mean, can you explain it better
[08:25] <Dr_willis> Thats Weird.... with a ~ in the name.
[08:25] <BluesKaj> sys/settings/advanced/login manger/admin mode/ languge bartab at the bottom
[08:25] <Dr_willis> i would almost guess the server is being updated/changed/or somthing.
[08:25] <xenol> dr_willis that symbol is problem?
[08:26] <Dr_willis> xenol,  sounds to me like the server is having some issues.. Look and see if that dir/file is there wiht a web browser
[08:26] <Murchadh> xenol: Can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin?
[08:26] <xenol> ah so it is shut off
[08:26] <drkm> BluesKaj: ah I found it now.. in the language bar it only has US English
[08:27] <BluesKaj> arte you in admin mode , drkm
[08:27] <xenol> !paste
[08:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:27] <xenol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37421/ here murchadh
[08:27] <drkm> BluesKaj: yeah I went into admin mode.. theres only US English in the list
[08:28] <Murchadh> drkm: Stumped. I have like English UK, English US and Irish when I click on Add Language. And other shows up under English US. I'm of no use I'm afraid.
[08:29] <amitron> I can't run programs on a Gentoo machine (omega, 192.168.0.11) using my Kubuntu machine's X-Server (AMITRON, 192.168.0.103). This is what I run in Konsole: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37419/
[08:29] <BluesKaj> well, drkm, dunno what i can do to help .... Murchadh?
[08:29] <xenol> can i also use debs for debian on ubuntu?
[08:29] <drkm> hmm strange one.. is there something I should download to add more languages to KDE?
[08:29] <osh_> What does this mean and how can I fix it? A link would be fine. "PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20050606/mysql.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20050606/mysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0"
[08:30] <BluesKaj> !languages
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <BluesKaj> !language
[08:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:31] <BluesKaj> hehe
[08:33] <PhinnFort> !locales
[08:33] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[08:33] <osh_> amitron: try ssh -X whateverhostname and run programs from there. what happens then?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort to the rescue
[08:33] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:34] <PhinnFort> argh... lighttpd segfaults php, and cherokee just gives me "200" whenever i try to access a php script...
[08:34] <amitron> osh_: nope. nothing.
[08:35] <PhinnFort> drkm: install "kde-i18n-xx" where xx is your language, like nb, en, ja, etc.
[08:35] <PhinnFort> i guess i'll have to install apache...
[08:36] <drkm> PhinnFort: ok I'll check it out
[08:36] <BluesKaj> what is apache ?
[08:36] <PhinnFort> a webserver
[08:36] <PhinnFort> *the* webserver
[08:36] <PhinnFort> defacto for over 10 years
[08:36] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:36] <BluesKaj> ya gonna share yer files with us ? :)
[08:36] <drkm> on a totally different topic what should I add to sources.list for KDE?
[08:37] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: just need for testing on my local computer before i upload it
[08:37] <osh_> amitron: you're on the gentoo and ssh to the kubuntu. Or the other way around?
[08:37] <PhinnFort> drkm: kubuntu thingies
[08:37] <BluesKaj> it's already there drkm
[08:37] <drkm> ah ok thanks
[08:37] <PhinnFort> apache install failed...
[08:37] <drkm> PhinnFort: how am I meant to install kde-i18n-xx? apt-get?
[08:37] <usamahashimi> hi everyone
[08:37] <xenol> plz can someone tell me if i can use debs for debian on kubuntu?
[08:37] <amitron> osh_: I run ssh to the Gentoo machine from the Kubuntu one
[08:38] <PhinnFort> drkm: pick yer poison, whatever package manager you want
[08:38] <PhinnFort> xenol: in theory, yes
[08:38] <drkm> PhinnFort: well I wasn't sure because I tried it through apt-get and it can't find it ?
[08:38] <usamahashimi> from previous some days my system is hanging and responding very slow, can anyone tell me that how can i correct this problem?
[08:38] <xenol> so i can use krita krita-data and koffice packages?
[08:38] <PhinnFort> drkm: apt-cache search kde-i18n
[08:38] <drkm> PhinnFort: I think I got it, used UK rather than EN
[08:39] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: run ksysguard from under "System" under the K-Menu
[08:39] <PhinnFort> drkm: good, good:)
[08:39] <osh_> amitron: check that the ssh-server on gentoo is X-enabled. It's a compile-time option iirc. And have a look in the config-file too. Might be disabled there also.
[08:39] <JohnFlux> PhinnFort: you can press ctrl+esc   instead
[08:39] <BluesKaj> Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main apache2-utils 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 [93.1kB] 
[08:39] <BluesKaj> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe apache-common 1.3.34-4ubuntu1 [852kB] 
[08:39] <BluesKaj> Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe apache 1.3.34-4ubuntu1
[08:39] <PhinnFort> JohnFlux: doesn't always work
[08:40] <JohnFlux> PhinnFort: yeah dunnot why
[08:40] <drkm> PhinnFort: UK = Ukrainian lol
[08:40] <drkm> I'll apt-cache
[08:40] <PhinnFort> beryl, crashed kdesktop, etc
[08:40] <amitron> osh_: When I use a different machine with Windows and Cygwin, it works.
[08:40] <PhinnFort> drkm: :P
[08:40] <BluesKaj> !en
[08:40] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:40] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: and how can i know that which process i have to close?
[08:41] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: sort by cpu usage
[08:41] <osh_> amitron: perhaps you're setting the wrong display then. Unset all that and try the ssh -X version.
[08:41] <drkm> PhinnFort: found it thanks.. it's gben
[08:41] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: click on the "system" column, and see what ranks highest
[08:41] <PhinnFort> drkm: nice
[08:41] <Murchadh> xenol: I'd comment out lines 14 down, and try a sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install koffice
[08:42] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: it ranks highest X and it is 2.50
[08:42] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: do you have fancy desktop effects, like beryl installed?
[08:42] <Murchadh> xenol: Or build new sources for your region.
[08:42] <BluesKaj> yup, PhinnFort , apache failed om my box too
[08:42] <Murchadh> !repositories
[08:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:42] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: works now, though
[08:42] <Murchadh> !sources.list
[08:43] <BluesKaj> dpkg: error processing apache (--configure):
[08:43] <BluesKaj>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:43] <BluesKaj> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:43] <xenol> murchadh repositories r OK and also apt-get update shows error 404 :p so there must be smthing with server :/
[08:43] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: just try again
[08:43] <PhinnFort> worked second time here
[08:43] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: no, i dont have 3d card so i turned of the translucency
[08:43] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: how sluggish is it?
[08:43] <amitron> osh_: What do you mean exactly? Can you pastebin a list of commands for me, please?
[08:44] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: is the mouse sluggish, or just moving windows, etc?
[08:44] <BluesKaj> ok, PhinnFort , it installed
[08:44] <PhinnFort> ;)
[08:44] <Murchadh> xenol: Yeah, not sure they exist long term. Comment them out, have another go. From line 14 down to the bottom, just add #. apt-get upgrade see if those errors still occur.
[08:44] <dope> i installed kubuntu over ubuntu and i think i broke ubuntu :(
[08:45] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: my system hand in intervals like it hang for 10 secs, then run fine for a minute or 2 and then hangs for 10-12 secs and this story continues
[08:45] <usamahashimi> while hanging mouse works but i can not click on anything also somethimes mouse hangs in its movements
[08:46] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: what kind of programs have you installed lately?
[08:46] <PhinnFort> sounds like something is comitting it's cache to the harddrive or something
[08:46] <xenol> murchadh update and upgrade show same error and those repositories r OK i upgraded with em my ubuntu 2 days ago at my friend only at me i get probs :/ and btw can u tell me where i can build repos plz? any website for it?
[08:46] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: i used to run firefox, xmms, konsole and giam simultaneously
[08:46] <osh_> amitron: unsetenv DISPLAY and all other environment variables you set before and ssh -X yourbox
[08:47] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: but have you installed any new apps?
[08:47] <Murchadh> xenol: There is indeed, just can't remember where. Was mentioned here a few times yesterday. I'll google it....
[08:47] <xenol> murchadh ty
[08:48] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: only installed some codecs and multimedia apps like mplayer, xmms, also firfox, gaim, vlc
[08:48] <PhinnFort> hmm
[08:48] <eMaX_> does ssh configure somewhere through which interfaces I may connect? Apparently, I cannot connect through all my network interfaces.
[08:48] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: can you paste the output of "ps aux"?
[08:48] <PhinnFort> !paste
[08:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:51] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: pastebin is not working, can you tell me any other site for pasting?
[08:51] <BluesKaj> try www.pastebin.ca ...not as busy as the others
[08:52] <dope> can i install beryl or compiz on kubuntu?
[08:52] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: i dont know why its not pasting
[08:52] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: rafb.net/paste
[08:52] <Dr_willis> dope,  yes.. - is it worth the effort... doubtfull.
[08:52] <Hawkwind> !beryl | dope
[08:52] <ubotu> dope: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:52] <PhinnFort> sorry, i was getting meself a hot dog;)
[08:53] <Murchadh> Anyone know of a link to a site to help create a fresh sources.list?
[08:53] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[08:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[08:53] <Dr_willis> but it dont have edgy support yet. :(
[08:53] <PhinnFort> !sources.list
[08:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:53] <Murchadh> Mentioned here yesterday. My bad for not noting it.
[08:53] <Dr_willis> ive seen some other sites taht have example sources also.
[08:53] <PhinnFort> argh...
[08:53] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Gs95o937.html
[08:53] <xenol> dr_willis in easy source i can build repos for my regions?
[08:53] <PhinnFort> i'm growing tired of webserver
[08:53] <PhinnFort> s
[08:53] <dope> oh
[08:54] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: hehe I tried that too.
[08:54] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:54] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: any reason automatix is running?
[08:54] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: i had a similar problem some time ago under gentoo, though
[08:55] <PhinnFort> it was arts acting up
[08:55] <PhinnFort> just deleting it helped;)
[08:55] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: as firefox is hanging, i am thinking about to install swiftfox browser
[08:55] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: give opera a try;)
[08:55] <PhinnFort> osh_: you know any reason apache would give me 404 for my images/ and everything under it?
[08:56] <PhinnFort> all other folders exist, and work just dandy
[08:56] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: i used opera, its very heavy, do u use swiftfox browser?
[08:56] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: nope, i use konqueror, and opera when i need flash
[08:56] <PhinnFort> (32-bit)
[08:56] <osh_> PhinnFort: baby crying. back later
[08:56] <drkm> PhinnFort: finally got UK language installed and I've changed it over to UK, but my keyboard is still mapped for US keyboards.. have I missed something?
[08:56] <ryanakca> how do I change my keyboard map in KDE without using System Settings? (That particular module is... kaput... for me)
[08:56] <PhinnFort> osh_: :P
[08:57] <PhinnFort> drkm: i think it's somewhere lse
[08:57] <PhinnFort> *else
[08:57] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: do find any thing wrong the output of ps aux
[08:57] <drkm> PhinnFort: do you know where?
[08:57] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: nothing jumps at me, no
[08:57] <eMaX_> where can I tell kwallet not to ask for passwords?
[08:57] <PhinnFort> drkm: look under keyboard?
[08:57] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: lemme tell u the output of hdparm
[08:57] <PhinnFort> drkm: it's in xorg.conf, i think
[08:58] <drkm> PhinnFort: ok thanks, I'll have a look
[08:58] <PhinnFort> np
[08:59] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5IgP0p32.html
[08:59] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: i also want to tell u one more thing
[08:59] <PhinnFort> ok
[08:59] <PhinnFort> your parameters seems just fine, btw
[09:00] <matthew__> Can anyone tell me how to map my WINkey to the Kmenu? I want the kmenu to pop up when I hit the Windows key.
[09:00] <PhinnFort> you should try running top in a konsole when everything goes haywire, too
[09:00] <PhinnFort> matthew__: why on earth do you want that?
[09:00] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: when my sytem starts, it takes a long time at "Loading Hardware Driver...", when i checked in verbose mode, it gave an error "ide: dma timed out"
[09:00] <matthew__> PhinnFort, why not? just something to make my life easier
[09:00] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: could you paste the output of dmesg?
[09:00] <PhinnFort> just for kicks
[09:01] <PhinnFort> matthew__: why not use katapult or similar
[09:01] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: ok :)
[09:01] <PhinnFort> makes your life even easier
[09:01] <PhinnFort> ;)
[09:01] <matthew__> PhinnFort, I don't understand...how would katapult help?
[09:01] <matthew__> isn't katapult like "run"?
[09:02] <PhinnFort> just alt+space (one press) and choose program
[09:02] <PhinnFort> don't you want the kmenu to run things?
[09:02] <Murchadh> drkm: After installing it, you should move it to the top of the list. See what happens then. (Select it, click move up) and sorry if you have already done so!
[09:02] <Fleebailey33> i am trying to dual boot kubuntu amd64 and windows. any help?
[09:02] <Fleebailey33> i cant find a tutorial
[09:02] <Fleebailey33> ive never dual booted before
[09:02] <PhinnFort> Fleebailey33: don't need a tutorial
[09:02] <matthew__> PhinnFort, ooooh, I like katapult
[09:02] <PhinnFort> just do it;)
[09:02] <matthew__> a lot
[09:02] <PhinnFort> :P
[09:02] <matthew__> thank you thank you thank you!
[09:02] <matthew__> lol
[09:02] <PhinnFort> yw
[09:02] <PhinnFort> ;)
[09:03] <Fleebailey33> PhinnFort:
[09:03] <Fleebailey33> ...
[09:03] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/paste/results/KPerGp63.html
[09:03] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Think he wants windows functionality, winkey brings up the menu list.
[09:03] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: thanks
[09:03] <Fleebailey33> what partitions to i need to make in linux first?
[09:03] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: but i have to thank u as u are doing ur best to help me :)
[09:04] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: katapult supersedes that
[09:04] <PhinnFort> :P
[09:04] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: i'm sorry we haven't progressed very far;)
[09:04] <Fleebailey33> i love katapult
[09:04] <Fleebailey33> just like quicksilver
[09:04] <PhinnFort> quicksilver is katapult eq. for mac?
[09:04] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: np :)
[09:04] <Fleebailey33> yup
[09:04] <PhinnFort> ;)
[09:04] <Murchadh> matthew__: I'veonly managed to get it to work as a modifier key. Win+\ makes kuake pop out of the left hand side of the screen!
[09:05] <Fleebailey33> PhinnFort:
[09:05] <matthew__> !kuake
[09:05] <ubotu> kuake: Console which looks like Quake game console. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-5 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 244 kB
[09:05] <matthew__> ah
[09:05] <Fleebailey33> i do need help though
[09:05] <PhinnFort> !yakuake
[09:05] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[09:05] <PhinnFort> ;)
[09:05] <Fleebailey33> i thought grub couldnt do ntfs
[09:05] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, need help w/ partitions?
[09:05] <Fleebailey33> yeah
[09:05] <PhinnFort> Fleebailey33: it uses something called "chainloading"
[09:05] <matthew__> ok, what do your drives look like?
[09:05] <PhinnFort> it just hands over everything to the ntfs partition, and it takes it from there
[09:06] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Yeah Katapult rocks. Gets kinda sluggish though, the more stuff gets installed. It works perfect here on a pretty clean install, but on my old system, it could take ages to work.
[09:06] <PhinnFort> that's at least how i understood it
[09:06] <dhq> how do i partition my hardisk i need a graphical tool
[09:06] <Fleebailey33> qtparted dhq
[09:06] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: i think they've optimised it quite a bit
[09:06] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, what do your drives look like?
[09:06] <matthew__> or gparted.
[09:06] <Fleebailey33> regular installed for internal on this laptop
[09:06] <Fleebailey33> swap and ext3
[09:06] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, oh, you've already got linux installed?
[09:07] <Fleebailey33> yes.
[09:07] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, so, what's the prob?
[09:07] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, problem
[09:07] <Fleebailey33> i have absloutely no clue how to install media center edition on my linux box
[09:07] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: your problem seems to be related to "VFS: busy inodes on changed media. "
[09:07] <PhinnFort> Fleebailey33: so get mythtv;)
[09:08] <Fleebailey33> i dont want the media center part
[09:08] <PhinnFort> Fleebailey33: just make a partition for windows in linux, and then start the windows install
[09:08] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: what is this and how can i correct it?
[09:08] <Fleebailey33> its just the os i have
[09:08] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: i'm trying to find out...
[09:08] <Fleebailey33> fat32 will do?
[09:08] <Fleebailey33> how big?
[09:08] <PhinnFort> dunno
[09:08] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, if you really want to install windoze, you're going to need to use the gparted liveCD to resize your ext3 partition and make a new FAT32 partitiion
[09:08] <PhinnFort> winblows sucks space like nothing else, though
[09:09] <Fleebailey33> i can do that
[09:09] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, once you install windoze, you're going to have to reinstall GrUB
[09:09] <Murchadh> Anyone who uses the shell needs either kuake or yakuake running. Being a bit of a twit, I have both, kuake on the left hand side and yakuake at the top. One has emacs running at all times with .conf files open, the other is for quick commands. Also check out screen if you use a shell.
[09:09] <Fleebailey33> resize
[09:09] <Fleebailey33> gotcha
[09:09] <Fleebailey33> and grub will reconize?
[09:09] <xenol> ofc
[09:09] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, yes, but you need to reinstall grub after, cause microsoft will overwrite it
[09:09] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: or just yakuake with several sessions open at a time
[09:09] <Fleebailey33> ok
[09:09] <Fleebailey33> gotcha
[09:10] <Fleebailey33> how big should my fat32 be you think?:
[09:10] <Fleebailey33> percentage of hdd space
[09:10] <Fleebailey33> im think 1/4
[09:10] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: http://www.google.com.pk/search?q=VFS%3A+busy+inodes+on+changed+media&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[09:10] <PhinnFort> Fleebailey33: depends entirely on you
[09:10] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Yeah, I got carried away, couldn't decide which I preferred nad am now using both. ?)
[09:10] <Fleebailey33> i got 120gb on laptop plus external ext3
[09:10] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: i found this
[09:10] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: i'm the devs fanboy;)
[09:10] <Fleebailey33> sounds good?
[09:10] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, if you're doing media stuff, as big as you can. If you're just installing it for games or whatever, I would do about 10-30 Gigs...depends on size of drive
[09:11] <PhinnFort> the yakuake dev
[09:11] <cathal> how do I add the trash(recycle bin) to my desktop?
[09:11] <drkm> PhinnFort: all fixed now.. you were right with setting in xorg.conf.. thanks
[09:11] <chx> hi. I have a DVD writer (which works in a desktop) hooked up to my laptop through USB (this thing works with a HDD) if I put in a DVD, then the system recognizes, and asks what I want to do with my shiny new GitS DVD. I want to play it with Kaffeine, I got an error and dmesg says [17232183.440000]  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 147 and then this is repeated with more blocks up to 156. I tried other DVDs to the same results.
[09:12] <matthew__> cathal, click on the bar on the left side of the bin, and drag it to the desktop
[09:12] <PhinnFort> cathal: right click -> new -> link to location, type "trash:/" as the URL
[09:12] <Fleebailey33> well thanks matthew
[09:12] <PhinnFort> or what matthew__ said;)
[09:12] <matthew__> Fleebailey33, np,..gl,
[09:13] <dope> i can't get any videos to play in firefox
[09:13] <dope> what do i do
[09:13] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: have you looked at http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2006-03/msg06629.html
[09:13] <PhinnFort> ?
[09:13] <francesco_> hi,i'm a new linux user..somebody can help me please?
[09:13] <PhinnFort> dope: you use konqueror
[09:13] <cathal> matthew, PhinnFort: thank u both
[09:13] <PhinnFort> heh, np;)
[09:13] <dope> why can't i use firefox?
[09:13] <matthew__> !anyone | francesco_
[09:13] <ubotu> francesco_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:13] <osh_> PhinnFort: Still problemwith 404?
[09:13] <Fleebailey33> and it will work on amd64. the gparted live im assuming?
[09:13] <PhinnFort> osh_: yeah
[09:13] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: leme check
[09:13] <PhinnFort> Fleebailey33: yeah
[09:13] <PhinnFort> tried it meself here
[09:14] <francesco_> ok..i've problems with the italian language pack...
[09:14] <dope> i like my firefox plugins :(
[09:14] <Fleebailey33> awesome
[09:14] <matthew__> francesco_, what's the prob?
[09:14] <PhinnFort> osh_: i don't have any .htaccess there
[09:14] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Yakuake has been on my machine for a while, one bug (which doesn't affect it's functionality) I found is with the transparency, it shows the first desktop image it opens on every time it opens. eg I open it on desktop 1, I see my desktop beneath. Switch to desktop 2, press F12, but yakuake still shows me desktop 1 in the background. I know I'm being picky, but it's the one thing kuake does better outta the box.
[09:14] <Fleebailey33> thanks PhinnFort
[09:14] <osh_> PhinnFort: Check permissions? You use selinux? what's your basedir in apache.conf
[09:14] <ibert> just for inspiration: where do you store your mp3's? in /home or in an extra data partition?
[09:14] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: i know, but that's a minor inconvenience
[09:14] <francesco_> i've installed them..but my linux is already in english..
[09:15] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: and when i use beryl, transparency just works (tm)
[09:15] <PhinnFort> ;)(
[09:15] <PhinnFort> osh_: permissions ok, no selinux, and the rest of the webpage work
[09:15] <matthew__> francesco_, have you tried restarting?
[09:15] <xenol> !vim
[09:15] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[09:15] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Agreed, It's not coming off my machine anyway. Must give beryl another try.
[09:15] <PhinnFort> ;)
[09:15] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: what kind of gfxcard?
[09:15] <PhinnFort> Fleebailey33: np;)
[09:16] <francesco_> yes..but only adept now is in italian
[09:16] <chx> is there anything I could do or should I just accept that this USB rack does not work with this DVD writer :( ?
[09:16] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: KDED Media manager' If i turn it off, will kde auto mount my usb and cdrom?
[09:16] <matthew__> francesco_, sorry, I don't know anything more. Sorry!
[09:16] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: probably not, but try deactivating it, and see if the problem is still there
[09:17] <osh_> PhinnFort: apache1 or apache2?
[09:17] <PhinnFort> apache1
[09:17] <Murchadh> I have yakuake on F12 and kuake on Win+\, which is awful handy. PhinnFort a Radeon 9250 I think.
[09:17] <francesco_> doesn't matter...thanks
[09:17] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: should work just dandy with aiglx then
[09:17] <BluesKaj> !katapult
[09:17] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[09:17] <PhinnFort> i have yakuake on f10, f12 is hard-wired in Blender
[09:17] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: after stopping it, dmesg is still giving the same error
[09:18] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: are you getting new errors?
[09:18] <PhinnFort> check the timestamp
[09:18] <ibert> ubotu: katapult starts with ALT+SPACE
[09:18] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.1.3-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 322 kB, installed size 2716 kB
[09:18] <ibert> ubotu: alt+f2 is the old launcher .-)
[09:18] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: no, same error
[09:18] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: but are you sure there are still appearing?
[09:18] <dope> does kubuntu have themes?
[09:18] <PhinnFort> dope: of course
[09:19] <PhinnFort> dmesg doesn't clear the log
[09:19] <dope> where do i set those
[09:19] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: yes, i checked twice
[09:19] <PhinnFort> when it is run
[09:19] <PhinnFort> !themes
[09:19] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:19] <PhinnFort> !changethemes
[09:19] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[09:19] <PhinnFort> dope
[09:19] <PhinnFort> you're on kde
[09:20] <francesco_> mattew..now it works!!
[09:20] <dope> yup
[09:20] <shadowhywind> anyone know how to fix filesystem panic so that it will stop changing my fat partition to read only?
[09:20] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: i remember that some days i ago i added a line dev.cdrom.lock=0 in /etc/sysctl.conf
[09:21] <Murchadh> PhinnFort:  I showed my friend yakuake, and he installed kubuntu on all his PCs. Now he keeps pressing F12 at work looking for a console. hehe
[09:21] <Murchadh> Yakuake Killer app!
[09:21] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: try removing it
[09:21] <osh_> PhinnFort: anything useful in the error-log?
[09:21] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: lol
[09:21] <PhinnFort> osh_: i'll look
[09:21] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Not the ATI Radeon (fglrx) driver then?
[09:21] <PhinnFort> osh_: tried creating a new folder with the same name, didn't find it, capitalized the first letter, then i could find it
[09:21] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: nope
[09:22] <dope> is there a way to set a hotkey to open konsole
[09:22] <PhinnFort> osh_: seems like apache wants "images/" from /usr/share, but the rest of the queried documents from /var/www
[09:22] <dope> i found it
[09:23] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: ok removed it but how can i make my system know that now this line is removed (without restarting)?
[09:23] <BluesKaj> dope, which key is it?
[09:23] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: i'm not sure how you do it under ubuntu...
[09:23] <dope> i set it
[09:24] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: use "sysctl" directly
[09:24] <PhinnFort> run "sysctl dev.cdrom.lock=0"
[09:24] <PhinnFort> "sysctl dev.cdrom.lock=1" i mean
[09:24] <dope> you right click on it and click edit icon and then select a hotkey for it
[09:24] <BluesKaj> dope, how?
[09:24] <dope> it should be under the system menu
[09:25] <dope> just right click it and select edit item
[09:25] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: no, dmesg is still giving the same error :(
[09:25] <PhinnFort> WHY THE FSCK is /images/ aliased in the default apache config
[09:25] <crimson> i'm trying to install some plugins and when i get to the point in the terminal where i need to use "./configure" there is a string of things such as autoconf and automake missing. Can anyone help?
[09:25] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: then you should try to reboot
[09:25] <PhinnFort> i want to strangle a dev right now...
[09:25] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: oh
[09:25] <Phoenix92x> excuse me, does anyone know any good channels that I could ask some general questions about VPNs in? I've done some research and still have some questions
[09:25] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: does it still hang?
[09:25] <PhinnFort> the errors in dmesg could just be leftovers
[09:26] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: yes after a minute or two
[09:26] <PhinnFort> darn
[09:26] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: sorry, i can't help you...
[09:27] <osh_> PhinnFort:   that'd put your image-dir outside of the server-root I think. could you change it to look in /var/www  (which I assumes server-root points to)?
[09:27] <PhinnFort> osh_: i know
[09:27] <usamahashimi> PhinnFort: np. thanks by the way, thanks a lot for ur efforts
[09:27] <PhinnFort> i just commented out the alias
[09:27] <PhinnFort> usamahashimi: no problem
[09:27] <PhinnFort> osh_: but why such a stupid alias just to get the default "replaceme" webpage to work?
[09:28] <osh_> PhinnFort: dunno
[09:29] <PhinnFort> osh_: someone should whip the dev responsible
[09:29] <PhinnFort> ...
[09:31] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Just checked out some guys YouTube of his beryl - now I'm gonna have to install it. Looks wicked. I don't need much of that stuff, but I love showing kubuntu off!
[09:32] <shadowhywind> !pastebin
[09:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:33] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: nice;)
[09:33] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: if you install it "right", you can choose when you log in if you want it or not
[09:33] <BluesKaj> Murchadh, I tried to install beryl but it won't run on my ATI card ...crashes X
[09:33] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: what kind of card do you have?
[09:33] <alan_> ?ESPAOL?
[09:34] <BluesKaj> ATI xpress200
[09:34] <PhinnFort> !espanol
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <BluesKaj> !es
[09:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:34] <PhinnFort> !spanish
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <PhinnFort> !women
[09:35] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[09:35] <keddie> how do I change the menu bar picture or color?
[09:36] <tamacracker> What's the best program to use to extract .zip files?
[09:36] <xenol_> ark
[09:36] <xenol_> i think
[09:37] <PhinnFort> yeah
[09:37] <tamacracker> woot
[09:37] <tamacracker> ok
[09:37] <PhinnFort> although i think konqueror has built-in support for it too
[09:37] <tamacracker> i was clickin the open link from the download window, and it wouldn't open, until i just double clicked the file itself.
[09:38] <BluesKaj> tamacracker, if yer gonna run zipped windows files better get wine
[09:42] <conn> hi, when I try to copy a cd via k3b, I see "Cddb error (communication error.)." - can anyone help?
[09:43] <tamacracker> are you hooked up to the internet?
[09:43] <tamacracker> while you burn the cd?
[09:44] <tamacracker> that little program is what finds the track information, such as the year, album, artist, track number, track name etc..
[09:44] <conn> yep, and gnome's "sound juicer" retrieves the track information every time I pop in a cd
[09:44] <BluesKaj> Kaudio creator
[09:45] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Can't find a linux-dri-modules for my kernel.
[09:45] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: ?
[09:45] <PhinnFort> i just enabled stuff in xorg-conf
[09:45] <PhinnFort> .conf
[09:45] <conn> BluesKaj, that's a dependency? I'll install it and try again
[09:45] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Sorry, just running an update on adept after adding the repos. might find it now.
[09:45] <PhinnFort> ok
[09:46] <BluesKaj> nope conn, it's a stand alone cd rippre
[09:47] <deitarion> The SD Card reader built into my mother's printer isn't triggering KDE's insert notification though LinuxPrinting says everything should work. Suggestions?
[09:47] <keddie> how can I change the default kde purple gears picture on the kde menu?
[09:47] <jontec__> at first when I turn on my computer, I can connect to the internet connection shared by my computer... then less than two minutes later I cannot. This goes also for the shared folder that is on the network by my windows computer. In addition to this, before I was getting prompts for a username and password to my windows shared folder. Why is this and how can I fix it? Someone told me before about lower the permissions of
[09:48] <oslo> hi
[09:48] <oslo> i cant hide my kicker when i go to a screen corner with beryl....
[09:48] <oslo> could u help
[09:48] <oslo> its when teh scree become dark & show all apps which are launch
[09:48] <oslo> ed
[09:49] <dope> does konquer have mouse gesture support?
[09:50] <jontec__> my other kubuntu computer can access the network, but my first one (the one I talked about out) can't.
[09:51] <PhinnFort> dope: yes
[09:51] <dope> where do i add that
[09:52] <christiane_> Hello. What is the cleanest way to modprobe ndiswrapper at system start?
[09:56] <bLaZeD> christiane, use sudo ndiswrapper -m
[09:56] <bLaZeD> that wll add everything to load it at boot
[09:56] <[Relic] > how do I list all installed packages
[09:58] <Murchadh> [Relic] : dpkg -l
[09:58] <dope> how do i enable mouse gestures for konquorer
[09:59] <Murchadh> [Relic] : dpkg -l > ~/MyApplist.yyyymmdd pipes them neatly into a text file called......
[10:00] <[Relic] > is there something that will simply put the names and no other info in?  not a major issue just wondering
[10:02] <Murchadh> [Relic] : Hmmm.. How to strip out the second and third columns? It's possible,b I'm just not the man to tell ya how I'm afraid!
[10:02] <[Relic] > I'll cut them out later  :)
[10:03] <[Relic] > need to burn one last dvd then I need to figure out how to format a hd section
[10:05] <dope> !themes
[10:05] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:07] <PhinnFort> kde-look.org
[10:07] <drkm> what player would you guys reccomend for mp3s?
[10:07] <PhinnFort> amarok
[10:07] <PhinnFort> hands down
[10:07] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:07] <dope> PhinnFort: how do i add the mouse gesture support to konquorer
[10:07] <PhinnFort> dope: dunno:P
[10:07] <dope> :|
[10:07] <ibert> drkm: amaraok! I fully agree...
[10:07] <PhinnFort> look under the system settingfs
[10:08] <drkm> ibert: cool ok
[10:08] <drkm> anyone else?
[10:08] <dope> i looked on google and saw some post about how a guy would switch from firefox to konquorer if it had mouse gesture support
[10:08] <PhinnFort> dope: under "Accessiblity"
[10:08] <PhinnFort> input actions
[10:08] <PhinnFort> there you can assign hotkeys and gestuers
[10:09] <dope> is that in konquorer?
[10:09] <PhinnFort> dope: that's in KDE, and therefore also konqueror
[10:10] <dope> oh
[10:10] <PhinnFort> konqueror is an integral part of KDE;)
[10:10] <malik__> are there any skins for     konqueror?
[10:10] <PhinnFort> malik__: wtf?
[10:10] <PhinnFort> skins?
[10:11] <PhinnFort> you could look at the different styles
[10:11] <BluesKaj> theses guys are all about eye candy :)
[10:11] <PhinnFort> "system settings" -> "appearance"
[10:11] <malik__> yes skins .........like they have for ff and opera
[10:11] <PhinnFort> skinning is stupid
[10:11] <PhinnFort> imho
[10:11] <[Relic] > but it is personalization  :)
[10:11] <PhinnFort> apps should use the styles given to them by the almighty window manager;)
[10:11] <pacman_> anyone know if there is an IRC channel of soundkonverter support?
[10:11] <PhinnFort> [Relic] : how so?
[10:12] <[Relic] > the more comfortable you are with a system the more productive you can be  :)
[10:12] <PhinnFort> [Relic] : how is skinning relevant?
[10:12] <BluesKaj> !soundkonverter
[10:12] <dope> these seem to be correct already but i don't know how to activate them
[10:12] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1047 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[10:12] <BluesKaj> #soundkonverter
[10:13] <[Relic] > look at how many different skins there are for some of the different programs, if you get one you like that is a more efficient layout to you then it will let you be more productive, doesn't need to make sense since it is personal choice
[10:13] <drkm> does anyone know how to get nick autocomplete to work in Kconversation?
[10:13] <PhinnFort> [Relic] : apps are supposed to be laid out in the most efficient way possible
[10:13] <BluesKaj> productive ?
[10:13] <PhinnFort> if it isn't, you should complain
[10:13] <pacman_> SOB banned me
[10:13] <PhinnFort> pacman_: it was empty;)
[10:14] <pacman_> oh
[10:14] <PhinnFort> [Relic] : and the layout isn't supposed to have anything to do with skinning
[10:14] <PhinnFort> read: the buttons placement in konqi and opera doesn't change with the skin
[10:14] <[Relic] > different apps they do though
[10:15] <[Relic] > like I said though it is a personal choice of what you are the most comfortable with when using something the more manipulation you allow the more users you will have assuming the program is any good
[10:15] <[Relic] > !pastebin
[10:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:16] <PhinnFort> [Relic] : KDE is the single most configurable collection of software there is, afaik
[10:16] <PhinnFort> you can adjust almost everything, everything if you're willing to change the sourcecode
[10:16] <BluesKaj> pacman_, have you considered gnormalize ?
[10:17] <BluesKaj> !gnormalize
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnormalize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <[Relic] > anyone know how to format or make recognizable a disk section?
[10:17] <BluesKaj> !GParted
[10:17] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:17] <Fleebailey33> so i am installing media center edition
[10:17] <Fleebailey33> dual boot
[10:18] <[Relic] > BluesKaj, it is there but for some reason it doesn't want to mount
[10:18] <christiane> bLaZeD: adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...
[10:18] <christiane> bLaZeD: couldn't add module alias:  at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 720.
[10:18] <dope> how do i use these gestures!?
[10:19] <Fleebailey33> i made a fat32 partition. hp installer said it was formatting hdd. im not sure if it was partition or whole hdd
[10:19] <Fleebailey33> it was very fasty
[10:19] <Fleebailey33> fast
[10:19] <BluesKaj> [Relic]  , it's best used as alive cd
[10:19] <Fleebailey33> then it very quickly made a new partition
[10:20] <[Relic] > BluesKaj, the section of the disk is there but I keep getting an error when trying to mount it, it even lists as linux
[10:20] <Fleebailey33> would that be it formmating the fat32 to ntfs
[10:20] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:20] <Fleebailey33> or the whole thing?
[10:21] <Fleebailey33> dang im nervous
[10:21] <Fleebailey33> i didn't back up
[10:21] <Fleebailey33> =(
[10:21] <bLaZeD> christiane, have u added your wireless driver with ndiswrapper?
[10:21] <BluesKaj> [Relic] , don't try to mount it ...burn it to a cd and run it , make sure you setup your boot sequence in  the BIOS to read the dcrom drive first
[10:22] <BluesKaj> cdrom
[10:22] <[Relic] > I am trying to mount the section of drive that read as linux format but doesn't want to mount
[10:22] <drkm> when using Konverstation why does it always have a - or + at the start of what someone is saying in the channel?
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> man pmount [Relic] 
[10:23] <Fleebailey33> pmount then device name
[10:23] <christiane> bLaZeD: Yes, it runs perfectly when I manually `sudo modprobe ndiswrapper`. I could write a script in /etc/rc* but I thought there must be a "cleaner" way to load modules ...
[10:23] <Fleebailey33> /dev/sde1 for example
[10:24] <[Relic] > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,   <-  the error I get every time I try to mount it in anyway
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> [Relic] , try pmount
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> readdddd
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> gtg
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> brb
[10:25] <[Relic] > that's what I get with pmount
[10:26] <agente2012> Hi
[10:26] <oslo> on beryl with the scale plugin, i see my kicker... how make it not showing ???
[10:27] <matos_SP_25> anyone from Brazil?
[10:27] <mats> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:28] <dope> how do i remove this kasbar?
[10:28] <dope> nm got it
[10:29] <PhinnFort> anyone good with bash here?
[10:29] <PhinnFort> why won't this work: http://rafb.net/paste/results/PRIDhN39.html
[10:29] <PhinnFort> "./scale.sh: line 5: `$f': not a valid identifier"
[10:29] <dope> maybe it should be $1
[10:29] <mats> maybe #bash can help?
[10:29] <keddie> what is the best program to extract an iso image
[10:30] <dope> what's $f
[10:30] <chx>  I have a DVD writer (which works in a desktop) hooked up to my laptop through USB (this thing works with a HDD) if I put in a DVD, then the system recognizes, and asks what I want to do with my shiny new GitS DVD. I want to play it with Kaffeine, I got an error and dmesg says [17232183.440000]  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 147 and then this is repeated with more blocks up to 156. I tried other DVDs to the same results. the USB
[10:30] <chx> - iDE device is Bus 005 Device 013: ID 04b4:6830 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. USB-2.0 IDE Adapter.
[10:31] <mats> keddie: why dont just mount it? 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 isofile mount_place'
[10:31] <PhinnFort> nm, it works
[10:31] <dope> my monitor is running at 50hz when it should be 60
[10:32] <keddie> mats: substitute isofile with file name?
[10:33] <mats> keddie: yes
[10:36] <bLaZeD> christiane, hmm ive always used ndiswrapper -m and it adds it for me...not sure what could be causing your prob.......
[10:37] <keddie> mats: thx that works great
[10:37] <mats> keddie: nice ;)
[10:48] <dope> is there a way to auto accept certain file types in konversation?
[10:48] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Beryl up and running. Some minor hicups, but time for some more showing off. So cool. Set my six desktops back to 4 with the same wallpaper, but I just haven't started fiddling with it yet. I think it's gonna be my favourite program since screen, before that yakuake, before that K/Ubuntu. OK I'll shaddup now. Thanks for the help!
[10:49] <PhinnFort> hehe;)
[10:50] <dope> PhinnFort: you know?
[10:50] <PhinnFort> dope: sorry, no
[10:50] <PhinnFort> you can ask Sho_ if you find him
[10:50] <dope> kk i'll be on the lookout
[10:50] <PhinnFort> he is one of the Konversation programmers
[10:50] <PhinnFort> he is usually in #kde
[10:50] <PhinnFort> [22:50]  [Whois]  Sho_ is a user on channels: #akademy #akregator #cedega #creative #fink #kde #kde-usability #khtml #nvidia #nx #openusability #yakuake
[10:50] <PhinnFort> afaik
[10:51] <dope> he's idle
[10:51] <PhinnFort> ping him
[10:51] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Does Sho__ work on yakuake. I'll have to pop over to one of them sites and big 'im up!
[10:51] <mats> a guy who has many interest i see :p
[10:51] <dope> can you tile chat windows in konversation?
[10:51] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: :P
[10:52] <PhinnFort> he is your average kde coder
[10:52] <PhinnFort> half a dozen apps under his west
[10:52] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:52] <jjlee> Adept Notifier seems to ignore hold and forbid-version -- can anybody explain why??
[10:52] <PhinnFort> jjlee: the adept devs, prolly
[10:53] <jjlee> I guess I'm mildly surprised anybody is able to use it given this
[10:54] <firebird619> Where is KDE installed to when installed via the kubuntu-desktop package? I am trying to install KDEnlive and it asks for where KDE is installed.
[10:54] <jjlee> I just did a search for "artsd crashes", and artsd immediately crashed :-0
[10:55] <jjlee> I think it's smarter than it looks :-)
[10:55] <cloakable> :P
[10:59] <OOD> !mp3
[10:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:59] <jjlee> Anybody know of any tips / howtos on stripping down [k] ubuntu to remove some of the fancier stuff (automounting, file monitoring, that kind of stuff)?
[11:00] <jjlee> I suppose I'm looking for a checklist of "stuff lots of people happily do without"
[11:00] <jjlee> otherwise I guess I'll just work my way through ps -ax...
[11:01] <killeroy> perhaps try the server install
[11:01] <[Relic] > can't figure out how to get this drive section working  :(
[11:01] <PhinnFort> bash is getting on my nerves...
[11:01] <killeroy> and then add what you want
[11:01] <killeroy> not sure how well that would work though
[11:01] <jjlee> killeroy: I don't want to reinstall, just remove some cruft from my installed desktop system
[11:02] <jjlee> I guess the first thing is to figure out how to ask what packages I have installed...
[11:03] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Are you limited to the same desktop pic with beryl?
[11:03] <PhinnFort> Murchadh: haven't tried switching
[11:03] <Black5un> !java
[11:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:04] <dope> when i hit print screen i don't think anything happens
[11:04] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: Ah. Just had a quick look, and only see desktop 1 showing up in the usual place where you change them.
[11:04] <jjlee> OMG, I have 24000 packages on this thing!  Where to begin...
[11:05] <BioVorE> grep might be something to start with.. :-P
[11:05] <Murchadh> PhinnFort: When X starts, I see my 6 desktops as they were, until beryl starts, and then I'm back to 1. Bears further investigation. Still, it's cool.
[11:05] <jjlee> BioVorE: hmm
[11:06] <jjlee> even scrolling through the list takes 30 seconds :-(((
[11:06] <BioVorE> dpkg -l | grep <string>
[11:06] <chimaera> hi. i just set up gnupg for kmail, i can send encrypted, but on receiving it can't get decrypted:
[11:06] <chimaera> Error: Bad passphrase
[11:06] <chimaera> actually, i'm not asked for the phrase on receiving.
[11:07] <jjlee> can all things things really be installed I wonder, or is apt-cache pkgnames showing all packages *known* to the system rather than *on* the system?
[11:08] <dope> you can't send files with kopete?
[11:08] <BioVorE> apt-cache list whats avalible in the repos.. not whats installed
[11:08] <BluesKaj> so i have direct rendering installed ok, cuz the fgl_glxgears test works very fine ...I was led to beleive that with the right ATI open source drivers now installed that i could run beryl or other eye candy desktop GUIs ...is this true ?
[11:09] <jjlee> BioVorE: OK, that makes more sense :-)
[11:09] <BioVorE> beryl + ati = dosn't work (I think)
[11:09] <Jucato> anyone here familiar with compiling KDE apps to other directories other than /usr/ or /usr/local/ ??
[11:09] <Murchadh> BioVorE: Works here (for the last 20 minutes).
[11:10] <dope> what's the kde equivelant to gksudo
[11:10] <Jucato> dope: kdesu
[11:10] <BioVorE> that with ATI drivers or opensource ones?
[11:10] <Murchadh> BioVorE: ATI Radeon 9250 (A kinda budgety card in it's day).
[11:10] <BluesKaj>  I'm asking in case some of the knowledgeable ppl here know the problem, but i think you may be right, BioVorE
[11:11] <jjlee> The man page says apt-cache pkgnames shows all packages "in the system".  That's rather misleading, at least in the absence of an introductory para that also fails to explains what "APT's package cache" is
[11:11] <BioVorE> ah older ATI.. gotcha..  The newer cards don't though.. X1400 I know for a fact dosn't
[11:11] <jjlee> erm, in the absence of an intro para that *does* explain what... I mean
[11:11] <BluesKaj> BioVorE, it's open source version of the fglrx driver
[11:11] <BioVorE> what ATI card?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> xpress200
[11:12] <BluesKaj> onboard
[11:12] <BioVorE> don't know about that one..
[11:12] <jjlee> Only 1216 packages to schlep through, then...
[11:12] <BioVorE> I use NVidia stuff here..
[11:12] <BluesKaj> it's listed as 3d capable
[11:13] <BluesKaj> well, bully for you ... it doesn't help me :)
[11:13] <BioVorE> x200.. I tihnk thats an older ATI card
[11:13] <BioVorE> I know some of the newer stuff like x1400 don't
[11:13] <BluesKaj> less than 1 yr old
[11:14] <BioVorE> but the good news is that I hear the AMD is looking in to opensourcing the ATI drivers on linux..
[11:14] <BioVorE> If that happens then ATI stuff will start to work very well
[11:14] <BluesKaj> can only hope
[11:14] <drkm> which pdf viewer should I use between KGhostView or KPDF?
[11:15] <BluesKaj> certainly AMD seems more linux friendly than intel
[11:15] <BioVorE> intel stuff is farily open..
[11:16] <Alarm> hello. sometimes when i try to run some applications. they do run , but in console i see the following errors : X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[11:16] <Alarm>   Major opcode:  144
[11:16] <Alarm>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:16] <BioVorE> there wifi stuff works great in linux.. and the opensourced there graphics driver for i810
[11:16] <Alarm> is that something major ?
[11:16] <BioVorE> just ignore it.. everyone get it..
[11:16] <BioVorE> Its something to do with Xorg 7.xxx
[11:17] <Alarm> ohh cool ehehe
[11:18] <Alarm> a question. i was trying to ran a java application it was telling me that it couldnt find java , although it was installed. so i copied the java directory in /usr/java and worked pretty well. will i have now any other problem with other applciations that will need to run java as i moved it from my home dir (where i normaly installed it) to /usr/java  ? got what i did ? :)
[11:19] <BioVorE> !java
[11:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:19] <Alarm> :)
[11:22] <jjlee> Anybody else see the panel frequently crashing with dapper? Right now I don't have a panel, it just vanished without even a puff of smoke (though half an hour ago I got two dialogs telling me kpanel crashed)
[11:22] <BioVorE> BluesKaj: Looks like the x200 + XGL/Beryl is busted in Edgy....
[11:23] <BluesKaj> ok , how did you find this out , BioVorE ?
[11:23] <BioVorE> forums
[11:23] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:24] <Jucato> anybody here knows where to properly set KDEDIRS in Kubuntu Edgy?
[11:25] <ArrAKeeN> re
[11:29] <alexicon> does anyone here know if ubuntu's wifi actually works?
[11:29] <alexicon> cos kubuntu edgy wifi is retarded and wont connect to anything
[11:30] <alexicon> meh everything is busted in edgy
[11:30] <alexicon> this is getting annoying
[11:30] <BioVorE> alexicon: wifi works here
[11:30] <alexicon> three operating systems on this machine and not one of them does everything i need
[11:30] <alexicon> meh
[11:30] <alexicon> my wifi wont connect in kubuntu
[11:30] <alexicon> dhcp errors
[11:30] <BioVorE> what wifi card you got?
[11:30] <alexicon> and manually running dhclient isnt fixing it
[11:31] <alexicon> intel
[11:31] <alexicon> laptop
[11:31] <alexicon> it worked with dapper
[11:31] <BioVorE> what laptop?
[11:31] <alexicon> works fine in suse
[11:31] <alexicon> sony vaio sz
[11:31] <cloakable> alexicon: There's always LFS if you want everything you want :P
[11:31] <BioVorE> that a intell 1345 or 2200?
[11:31] <alexicon> i got it working once in edgy configuring it through kcontrol
[11:31] <alexicon> but then it never worked again
[11:31] <alexicon> and never connected with wlanassistant
[11:32] <prower> Hello :> I've enabled translucency and shadows in KDE, but they aren't showing up...is there something else that I need to configure, like in xorg.conf?
[11:32] <BioVorE> alexicon: apt-get install knetworkmanager
[11:32] <alexicon> yeah
[11:32] <alexicon> that program is worst of all
[11:32] <alexicon> i cant even select a network with that proggy
[11:32] <alexicon> i used to love it
[11:32] <BioVorE> prower: in simple yes..
[11:32] <BioVorE> works great with my wifi card here on edgy
[11:34] <BioVorE> I have a intell 3945ABG, works once you set it up correctly
[11:34] <BioVorE> !3945
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3945 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <BioVorE> !wifi
[11:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:35] <Black5un> !XDMCP
[11:35] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[11:42] <alexicon> wheres the fastest place to download ubuntu from
[11:45] <billytwowilly> so who is the smart guy that set amarok to only show /media and /home to choose to find the media collection and how do I fix it so it will show atleast /mnt as well?
[11:45] <dope> so no file transfer in konversation
[11:46] <Jucato> !hidden | billytwowilly
[11:46] <ubotu> billytwowilly: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[11:46] <Jucato> dope: DCC?
[11:47] <dope> err
[11:47] <dope> i mean kopete
[11:48] <dope> all these k at the beginning of names reminds me of something i read about the kkk
[11:49] <billytwowilly> Jucato: thanks. I'm happy they are removing that rather silly "upgrade" in feisty.
[11:51] <billytwowilly> while we're on the topic of directories, can someone point me to the thread outlining why they chose to put a /media in  root in the first place? that's what /mnt is for..
[11:53] <dope> kubuntu seems a lot prettier than ubuntu
[11:53] <cloakable> I generally navigate system directories in the terminal :P
[11:55] <alexicon> kubuntu is sucking my nonexistant balls right now
[11:55] <hujciwdupe> what do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???
[12:00] <christiane> I installed xorg-driver-fglrx. `fglrxinfo` tells me something about "mesa3d.org", not "ATI Corp.". Is that right?
[12:02] <rafal> hello
[12:03] <drkm> when you open an application it goes in the taskbar.. is there anyway I can make the taskbar application bits longer?
[12:04] <lol> welcome for everyone
[12:06] <hujciwdupe> what do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???
[12:07] <wimpies> crimsun_ : are you available ?
[12:07] <drkm> are there any alternatives to Konqueror to browse files?
[12:08] <wimpies> drkm : konsole ?
[12:09] <drkm> wim: alternative gui
[12:10] <wimpies> no ... check perhaps in www.kde.org
[12:11] <hujciwdupe> what do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???
[12:12] <wimpies> hujciwdupe : why you think it does not work ?
[12:13] <dope> i don't like that kdewallet holds my passwords in plain text