[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75951 in mplayer (multiverse) "crash while convert to xvid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75951
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75952 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu crashes router" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75952
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75953 in libapache2-mod-python (main) "libapache2-mod-python cannot be installed in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75953
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75954 in tightvnc (universe) "tightvnc crashes on 6.10 amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75954
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75955 in proftpd-dfsg (universe) "proftpd uses update-inetd, which moved out of netbase" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75955
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75957 in control-center (main) "[feisty]  [usability]  categorization in the gnome-control-center needs to be more fine grained" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75957
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75958 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "kernel lockups" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75958
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73526 in wxmaxima (universe) "Please sync Ubuntu wxmaxima [universe]  ver. 0.6.5 from Debian unstable/testing (main) ver. 0.7.0a" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73526
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75960 in mono (main) "Mono crashs on system startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75960
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75961 in Ubuntu "Speedstep stopped working in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75961
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75962 in Ubuntu "lockup at [4294715.038000] cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af:" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75962
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75963 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox crashed on while trying to close it." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75963
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75964 in firefox (main) "Crash on Digg.com spell check close" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75964
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72051 in vim (main) "foldmethod is overriden somehow in /etc/vim/vimrc" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72051
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75965 in Ubuntu "Linux Is not a Viable OS without robust and extensive printer driver support." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75965
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75966 in Ubuntu "Emerald crash at right-click on window title" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75966
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75967 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashes during AIM file send" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75967
[07:21] <Ubugtu> WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas.
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> is lol
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> that came at the same time a "girls gone wild commercial came on"
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> so it said "Warning" and i though my computer was talking out of the tv
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75968 in meta-kde (main) "KDE in Feisty Fawn is Very Unstable/Unresponsive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75968
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> w00t
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> wrong channel...
[07:56] <Ubugtu> WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas.
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75969 in Ubuntu "Multiple Dmesg Errors When using Feisty Fawn " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75969
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75970 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed on VMware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75970
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75971 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 (restricted) "IPW3945 on Feisty Fawn does not start cleanly." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75971
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75972 in compiz (universe) "Maximize/minimize buttons causes Epiphany to lose window borders" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75972
[08:45] <crimsun_> bug 67402, 69489, 70664
[08:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67402 in vlc "mozilla-plugin-vlc is completely broken" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67402
[08:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69489 in bzr "When merge does not change anything then should not have pending merge to commit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69489
[08:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70664 in vlc "vlc player crashes during SAP playlist loading" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70664
[08:45] <crimsun_> bug 69849
[08:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69849 in vlc "crashed in edgy trying to open downloaded file" [Low,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69849
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69549 in gnome-screensaver (main) "Unlock Dialog Text Confusing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69549
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #74543 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74543
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75974 in ntp (main) "Change name of ntp-simple package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75974
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75975 in aboot-installer (universe) "While installing the prog. can't install GRUB on (hd4)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75975
[11:14] <pirast> when is the next hug day?
[11:15] <coNP> pirast: Wednesday, the 20th, I think
[11:15] <pirast> coNP, k, thanks
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75978 in firefox (main) "Firefox2 crashes on log-out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75978
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75979 in afbackup (universe) "update-inetd dependency missing in Feisty make uninstalable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75979
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75980 in gnome-panel (main) ""Clear Recent Documents" clears only the list in the gnome panel but not other application's lists as expected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75980
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75981 in bidentd (universe) "missing dependency on update-inetd make it uninstalable on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75981
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75982 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity crashes when being run without administrator permissions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75982
[12:11] <Hobbsee> bug #63992
[12:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63992 in gnome-keyring "Crashed" [Unknown,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63992
[12:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63992 "Crashed" [Unknown,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63992
[12:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: you got that email too?
[12:15] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: yeah
[12:16] <Hobbsee> the k3d oen
[12:16] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure how to help out, i expecti when it's fixed upstream
[12:16] <Admiral_Chicago> unless someone can hack up a patch and send it upstream and commit a new version
[12:17] <Hobbsee> yeah
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> oh well. i should go to bed sometime and stop messing around on irc.
[12:18] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[12:18] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 16 2006, 05:18:43
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> finals are great...
[12:19] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:39] <slacker> lo
[01:00] <TrioTorus> Hobbsee, I see you were talking about k3d, I'm following the bug you submitted a patch for. Is there something coming up in regard to k3d?
[01:01] <Hobbsee> TrioTorus: as in, a fix?
[01:01] <TrioTorus> Hobbsee, as in the e-mail you were talking about earlier
[01:02] <slacker> I have a small question
[01:02] <Hobbsee> TrioTorus: https://launchpad.net/bugs/64848 - it's in the process of being fixed - see the SRU wiki page linked on that bug for more info
[01:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64848 in k3d "[SRU: EDGY]   packaging typo - k3d does not install" [High,Confirmed] 
[01:02] <Hobbsee> slacker: shoot
[01:03] <slacker> If I would like to submit a request to get a ubuntu package
[01:03] <slacker> where should I make that request?
[01:03] <Hobbsee> is it already in debian?
[01:03] <slacker> (goal is to get the new libgphoto2 and libgphoto-sharp in a ubuntu package)
[01:03] <slacker> Hobbsee: that I'm not sure about
[01:03] <slacker> they just released it
[01:04] <Hobbsee> libgphoto2-2 seems to already be in the repos
[01:04] <Hobbsee> an older versoin, probably
[01:04] <slacker> jep, the new one is 2.3.0
[01:04] <slacker> and the -sharp is not in ubuntu
[01:05] <TrioTorus> Hobbsee, yeah, I saw that, yesterday I was thinking of submitting a debdiff, but I'm still learning. One thing that isn't clear to me is the versioning. The 2 debdiff files submitted don't seem to differ at all.
[01:05] <TrioTorus> Hobbsee, and there there this comment: I believe we're using 0.5.12.0-1ubuntu2.1~proposed1 now.
[01:05] <Hobbsee> TrioTorus:   one had 0.5.12.0-1ubuntu3, and the other had 0.5.12.0-1ubuntu2.1
[01:06] <Hobbsee> yes, i just saw that
[01:06] <slacker> and I have to break a lot of stuff to make sure that my libgphoto2.3 is the only libgphoto
[01:06] <slacker> present on my boxes
[01:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64848 in k3d "[SRU: EDGY]   packaging typo - k3d does not install" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64848
[01:09] <Hobbsee> TrioTorus: looks like they need to update their documentation.
[01:10] <TrioTorus> Hobbsee, okay, I see it now, the changelog diff first had 2.1 and the later one has 3, so if you make a change, the changelog file determines the name of the deb package including the correct package version number?
[01:10] <Hobbsee> yes
[01:11] <elmargol> any news about bug 28622
[01:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 28622 in gnome-volume-manager "Warning should be displayed when a filesystem is remounted read-only." [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/28622
[01:12] <TrioTorus> Hobbsee, thanks, and thanks also for the patch. I was feeling too uncomfortable to ask for sru for I'm glad you did. Good to see people are really committed to this sort of stuff. Thanks.
[01:13] <Hobbsee> TrioTorus: at times. it's kinda long :P
[01:13] <Hobbsee> TrioTorus: it's also not that hard
[01:13] <TrioTorus> Out of curiosity, how long does this generally take to see the sru occuring in my update manager?
[01:14] <Hobbsee> depends how long all the steps take
[01:14] <Hobbsee> and if the patch is right, of course
[01:14] <Hobbsee> if people actually test it
[01:14] <Hobbsee> etc
[01:15] <TrioTorus> your patch is a patch against all architectures?
[01:17] <Hobbsee> yes
[01:18] <TrioTorus> Hobbsee, is this because all the .deb package have the same control file and the usr team needs to patch all the architecture dependant .deb files?
[01:19] <Hobbsee> TrioTorus: the first half yes.
[01:19] <Hobbsee> guess yes to the second half too
[01:31] <slacker> Hobbsee: where do I submit such a "I would like this to be packaged" request?
[01:32] <Adri2000> slacker: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Candidates
[01:32] <Hobbsee> slacker: well, seeing as it's already partly in ubuntu, i'd ask seb128 or dholbach about it,a s they tend to do such things
[01:32] <Adri2000> sorry, wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[01:32] <slacker> ok, then I will hang around here some more
[01:32] <slacker> Adri2000: thnx
[01:33] <slacker> I will read it
[01:34] <slacker> Adri2000: like Hobbsee some of it already is in debian/ubuntu
[01:34] <Adri2000> slacker: you want the last version of libgphoto?
[01:34] <slacker> Adri2000: yeah, plus a new package they have
[01:34] <slacker> -sharp
[01:35] <slacker> its related to this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303357
[01:35] <slacker> I break dependencies because I removed the default libgphoto packages
[01:36] <slacker> you get errors when trying to install other packages after you removed them
[01:37] <Adri2000> slacker: have you seen that 2.3.0 is already in feisty?
[01:37] <slacker> for now, there is no harm done, because of a (possible) bug in libgphoto
[01:37] <slacker> Adri2000: no
[01:37] <slacker> is feisty stable?
[01:37] <Adri2000> no
[01:37] <slacker> or considered
[01:37] <Adri2000> no
[01:37] <slacker> ahh, then I will not use it yet
[01:37] <Adri2000> anyway, 2.3.0 will never go in edgy or dapper
[01:38] <slacker> ahh.. that sucks
[01:38] <slacker> pardon my french
[01:38] <slacker> but I should be able to get those packages working under edgy
[01:38] <Adri2000> yes, rebuild it
[01:39] <slacker> mm, my vacation will be dedicated to this then :)
[01:41] <slacker> ok, thanks for the help/info
[01:45] <a7p> who to handle bug 57141 - it seems to be a kernel-laptop-problem (to me). Should I ask him to send his the logfiles for one boot with working sound and one without working sound?
[01:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57141 in Ubuntu "Sound doesn't work after restart, only works on cold boot" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/57141 (Assigned to: a7p (a7p))
[01:52] <TrioTorus> Can someone help triage this bug with me: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/75978
[01:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75978 in firefox "Firefox2 crashes on log-out" [Undecided,Needs info]   (Assigned to: TrioTorus (dries))
[01:53] <TrioTorus> the guy who reported didn't include reproduce steps, although I asked.
[01:54] <TrioTorus> And I would also like to know whether the crash report (11 MB) is of any use.
[01:56] <DarkMageZ> those crash reports can be used by apport to gain a proper trace with full debugging symbols. anyone who knows the codebase well enough should beable to point out where the flaw is from there
[01:58] <DarkMageZ> i would love to grab one of those firefox devs for an hour and give them backtrace after backtrace and close half the firefox bugs
[01:58] <TrioTorus> DarkMageZ, ok, so what to do here? How to triage this bug?
[01:59] <DarkMageZ> do you know how to read backtraces?
[01:59] <TrioTorus> nope, I'm just starting out on bug-squad
[02:00] <TrioTorus> assign it to someone else? What about Importance?
[02:01] <TrioTorus> Is the Needs Info stage fulfilled?
[02:02] <DarkMageZ> the best thing to do with the firefox bugs is try and look for duplicates. someone else will hopefully beable to read the backtrace and fill out all the useful info for the bug
[02:03] <DarkMageZ> i'm going to see if i can interpretate any of that trace at all.
[02:03] <DarkMageZ> tho, i doubt it
[02:03] <TrioTorus> keescook, thanks for the effort
[02:03] <TrioTorus> oops, that was meant for DarkMageZ
[02:05] <hjmf> noob here too, from the backtraces how can you see if the bug is duplicated?
[02:05] <hjmf> is there a quick way?
[02:06] <DarkMageZ> what we really need is a coder with reasonable knowledge of the firefox codebase to read the backtraces
[02:07] <hjmf> I see
[02:09] <TrioTorus> Can we leave a message to the submitter saying he should send the crash report upstream? Or we do that ourselves?
[02:11] <DarkMageZ> generally when they submit it to us, it's up for us (ubuntu community) to figure out if it is likely to be a problem in upstreams codebase or due to changes we made to the code
[02:11] <DarkMageZ> or a plugin they installed
[02:32] <elmargol> can someone please check if this backtrace is usefull? http://nopaste.php-q.net/261470
[02:32] <elmargol> I'm running libgpod 0.4.0 and gtkpod 0.99.8 on edgy
[02:32] <DarkMageZ> did gtkpod crash?
[02:33] <elmargol> yes
[02:33] <DarkMageZ> yes. did you rebuild gtkpod for libgpod 0.4?
[02:33] <elmargol> yes
[02:34] <elmargol> I'm using libgpod and gtkpod from feisty on edgy
[02:34] <elmargol> My ipod is not supported on edgy :(
[02:36] <DarkMageZ> hmm, i'm actually going to give that a shot. tho backporting such things isn't supported.
[02:36] <elmargol> I know that there is no way for a backport
[02:36] <elmargol> thats why i try to do it on my own
[02:37] <elmargol> and nothing importand depends on libgpod on my system... so I can't break anything
[02:44] <DarkMageZ> elmargol, you'd probably be better talking to upstream about that issue.
[02:45] <elmargol> ok so you think the backtrace is usefull?
[02:47] <DarkMageZ> there's nothing in there that i can see that indicates that it's not useful
[02:49] <elmargol> ok
[03:06] <Admiral_Chicago> elmargol: have you tried gtkpod?
[04:05] <Seveas> bug 1
[04:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1