[12:28] <minghua> sistpoty: is it just non-free or non-distributable?  there doesn't seem to be a license in it
[12:28] <sistpoty> minghua: I don't know actually, since there is no license but a copyright statement 
[12:29] <sistpoty> minghua: might be non-distributable, but might be given to public domain from apple as well
[12:29] <minghua> right.  so it's quite unclear
[12:30] <minghua> for non-distributable files I suppose things should be fixed
[12:30] <minghua> non-free probably doesn't matter much
[12:38] <cjwatson> sistpoty: I'd be inclined to see what upstream know before panicking
[12:38] <sistpoty> cjwatson: it's coming from gentoo, and afaict is still in the repos
[12:38] <cjwatson> though I see it was removed in a Debian update, hmm
[12:39] <cjwatson> sistpoty: modifying edgy itself is kind of a nuclear measure, and I'd prefer not to do it unless there is an actual legal threat
[12:40] <cjwatson> sistpoty: I'd certainly be willing to discuss an update, or something, but not at 23:40 on a Friday night. :-)
[12:40] <cjwatson> sistpoty: feel free to mail me
[12:41] <sistpoty> cjwatson: ok... will do so. Just wanted to know if that's s.th. really urgent ;)
[12:41] <sistpoty> cjwatson: I guess I'll do it via the regular motu-sru policy then, ok?
[12:41] <cjwatson> that's fine with me. If there's a threat of legal action, please let me know and I'll see that it's escalated appropriately
[12:42] <sistpoty> cjwatson: alright. thanks
[12:42] <cjwatson> I don't think we've ever modified a released suite before (apart from some changes to the Task headers in breezy's Packages files, which was sort of by accident and ended badly anyway)
[12:43] <sistpoty> oh, nice
[12:45] <elmo> sistpoty: if it's only that file, I very much doubt that's a copyrightable work
[12:45] <sistpoty> elmo: only this file, yes
[12:46] <elmo> sistpoty: then, FWIW, I really wouldn't worry about it in released distributions
[12:47] <sistpoty> elmo: ah, k... thanks
[12:50] <cjwatson> (I agree with elmo, but didn't want to make that claim off my own bat while as tired as I am)
[12:50] <cjwatson> it falls under the "only one way to do it" thing
[12:50] <cjwatson> anyway, bed
[12:50] <imbrandon> gnight cjwatson 
[12:51] <sistpoty> gn8 cjwatson
[12:51] <imbrandon> see yall
[12:51] <sistpoty> gn8 imbrandon as well
[01:09] <Drako60> i know this isn't the place for help, but i need some help befor my kernel deciedes to crash again, http://pastebin.ca/280555
[01:10] <minghua> Drako60: please report bugs instead of asking here
[04:18] <bronson> Does anyone cross-compile their packages for different architectures?
[04:19] <bronson> I have some kernel packages that I'd like to provide on more than just x86.
[04:19] <bronson> And I don't want to buy a Sparc64 box.
[04:19] <bronson> Actually, yes I do.
[04:19] <bronson> I don't want to *pay for* a sparc64 box.
[04:20] <Hobbsee> bronson: use a VM or something?
[04:20] <bronson> Maybe.  I'd be afraid of the speed if it's emulating.
[04:21] <bronson> Seems better to just run gcc natively, but outputting packages for a different architecture.  Just wondering if anyone's done this before.
[04:21] <Hobbsee> probably.  i havent
[04:21] <bronson> Gotta admit, sounds like a fun thing to play around with.
[04:21] <bronson> Wish I had more time...
[05:32] <keescook> hmpf, the python.a file in python-dev wasn't compiled with -fPIC?
[06:44] <BenC> Mithrandir: ping
[07:22] <bronson> I found a bug in the graphviz-cairo package but I can't figure out how to enter it in Launchpad.
[07:22] <bronson> Do I have to register graphviz-cairo as a product?
[07:23] <bronson> When I search in Launchpad, it says "graphviz-cairo" is not known.
[07:24] <bronson> Ah, forget it.
[07:24] <bronson> Launchpad is just too difficult to use.
[07:24] <bronson> And this bug is not big enough to worry about -- just bad dependencies.
[10:33] <cjwatson> bronson: start at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug and enter graphviz-cairo as the source package
[10:33] <bronson> Ah good, I'll give that a shot.
[10:33] <bronson> cjwatson: thanks.
[10:34] <cjwatson> np
[01:55] <cypher1> http://shootingthekids.dpblogs.com/2006/12/14/yo-mamma-likes-ubuntu/
[01:55] <cypher1> thanks to ubuntu guys ! :)
[03:09] <theBishop> has anyone booted Ubuntu PPC on a Playstation3 yet?
[04:08] <sistpoty> hi folks
[04:26] <mdke_> who is the right person to talk to at Canonical about questions of copyright?
[04:46] <BenC> Mithrandir: ping
[04:47] <BenC> mdke_: Exactly what type of question do you have?
[04:48] <mdke_> BenC: I have a question about whether Canonical are prepared to waive their copyright on some material
[04:49] <BenC> ping anyone that can process NEW archive stuff
[04:49] <BenC> mdke_: Hmm...I would guess the best starting point is Matt Zimmerman <mdz@ubuntu.com>
[04:49] <mdke_> BenC: ok, I'll try him. Thanks
[04:50] <mdke_> mdz: if you're here, let me know.
[04:57] <mdke_> mdz: alright, no worries, I've mailed
[06:40] <Amaranth> BenC: did the fix for bug 74472 fix sound on your laptop?
[06:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74472 in linux-source-2.6.20 "[ALSA]  quiet sound until after hibernate" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74472
[06:52] <Mithrandir> BenC: please include a bit of context with your pings; if it's NEW-ing lrm, I'll do that when I get home (I'm going out now-ish)
[07:59] <BenC> Mithrandir: Sorry, it's newing LRM, but also need linux-source-2.6.20 published, it has some new udeb's that need processing
[08:33] <twb> Mithrandir: hey, so you know how I merged the debian stuff into casper?  When can I expect that to turn up as a .deb in feisty?  (Maybe it's already there; I haven't looked yet.)
[11:51] <Zmax> have you ever heard an operating system named "SignalOS"?
[11:52] <shackan> it used to be a popular joke
[11:53] <Zmax> lol
[11:53] <Zmax> popular?
[11:53] <Zmax> google for SignalOS
[11:53] <Zmax> there are some sites
[11:53] <Zmax> stc
[11:53] <Zmax> etc