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Admiral_Chicago | nixternal: ping in this channel | 08:11 |
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nixternal | yo yo | 08:11 |
nixternal | pong in that channel | 08:11 |
Admiral_Chicago | there is a missing doc page that we need to do | 08:13 |
Admiral_Chicago | it's pretty critical imo | 08:13 |
Admiral_Chicago | i've needed it bofer | 08:13 |
Admiral_Chicago | let me get the link... | 08:13 |
nixternal | please don't say the "modem" section or a more detailed networking section | 08:13 |
Admiral_Chicago | no way | 08:13 |
Admiral_Chicago | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 08:14 |
nixternal | heh, get the devs on it | 08:14 |
Admiral_Chicago | the sound devs? | 08:15 |
nixternal | well, anyone dealing specifically with hardware | 08:15 |
nixternal | sound, video, you name it | 08:15 |
nixternal | video detection is pretty much straight forward, sound has always been a silly tricky one for me in the past | 08:16 |
Admiral_Chicago | can I just email the list? | 08:16 |
nixternal | wifi will continue being an issue, as we aren't catching up quick enough | 08:16 |
nixternal | you can start it, but if you do i would recommend maybe hitting up the dev lists asking for help | 08:16 |
Admiral_Chicago | hold on a suc | 08:17 |
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Admiral_Chicago | nixternal: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 08:19 |
nixternal | wouldn't hurt | 08:19 |
Admiral_Chicago | okay | 08:19 |
Admiral_Chicago | i think i'm going to CC documentation team | 08:19 |
Admiral_Chicago | good idea | 08:20 |
Admiral_Chicago | ? | 08:20 |
nixternal | probably don't need to cc the doc team, unless you want to spark some creative writing interest | 08:23 |
Admiral_Chicago | err, too late.. ;\ | 08:30 |
Admiral_Chicago | well someone can turn it down if it's not relevant | 08:30 |
nixternal | hehe | 08:36 |
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nixternal | g'nite | 08:36 |
Admiral_Chicago | night | 08:36 |
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mdke_ | I suppose it may be time to merge that topic-based-help stuff into trunk. No one has objected. But then again, not many have commented either | 12:48 |
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mpt | mdke_ or anyone, has Will Simpson's patch from December 11th been merged? It would be a shame if we lost a potential contributor because of a poor first experience | 02:55 |
mdke_ | mpt: yes it has (did I forget to send the confirmation email to the list?). He's also asked me a couple of questions via private email, he seems keen | 02:56 |
mdke_ | I applied it to the topic-based-help branch too | 02:57 |
mpt | ok, cool | 02:58 |
mdke_ | I'm just merging that branch into trunk too, we've procrastinated too long over it. We can tidy it up later | 02:58 |
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mdke_ | god, is svn slow for everyone else? | 04:18 |
mdke_ | what a pain | 04:18 |
mdke_ | Seveas: wow, good job on the CC agenda page, if that was you. | 04:21 |
Seveas | mdke_, it was | 04:21 |
mdke_ | nice | 04:21 |
mdke_ | Seveas: is part of your job also chasing them for setting meeting times? | 04:21 |
Seveas | I consider it to be and I am already chasing | 04:22 |
mdke_ | good, glad to hear that | 04:22 |
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tonyyarusso | Anybody need a break? Come play !teg | 04:22 |
Seveas | tonyyarusso, don't spam... | 04:22 |
tonyyarusso | fine.. | 04:22 |
mdke_ | especially without explaining what !teg is | 04:23 |
tonyyarusso | That would be why someone made a factoid. | 04:23 |
mdke_ | that nonsense doesn't apply in here, you have to say what you mean | 04:23 |
tonyyarusso | all right. | 04:24 |
nixternal | mdke_: yes mine just locked up | 04:29 |
nixternal | svn that is | 04:29 |
linuxphotogeek | I'm having problem also | 04:36 |
linuxphotogeek | I get error 'Failed to add directory 'ubuntu': object of the same name already exists' | 04:37 |
nixternal | what are you trying to add the ubuntu directory to? | 04:39 |
linuxphotogeek | nothing! this is the output of svn up | 04:40 |
linuxphotogeek | just trying to do an update | 04:40 |
nixternal | try it again..you might have done an up during a commit possibly | 04:41 |
linuxphotogeek | I did get some updates to edubunutu and kubuntu | 04:42 |
mdke_ | maybe I broke it with my messing around | 04:42 |
linuxphotogeek | still no joy | 04:42 |
nixternal | mdke_: i just did an up w/o any troubles | 04:42 |
linuxphotogeek | must be my problem | 04:43 |
nixternal | linuxphotogeek: you can blast the ubuntu directory and then do up again | 04:43 |
mdke_ | yes, delete things that aren't working, and re-up them | 04:43 |
mdke_ | nixternal: whenever I commit there is a 5 minute wait after transferring the data, do you get that? | 04:43 |
linuxphotogeek | Thanks! I'll try that | 04:43 |
mdke_ | I don't know whether it is local or on the server-side | 04:44 |
nixternal | i just got that earlier with the edubuntu handbook fix | 04:44 |
nixternal | i think we may have committed at the same time possibly | 04:44 |
mdke_ | no, I get it every time | 04:44 |
nixternal | ahhh | 04:44 |
nixternal | i committed just fine last night testing my commit rights on this computer | 04:44 |
nixternal | could be a hiccup maybe with the server right now | 04:45 |
mdke_ | it's been like that for a while for me | 04:45 |
nixternal | so is the topic based help structure pretty much ready to be ported over to kubuntu? | 04:45 |
linuxphotogeek | Working as we speak - Updated to revision 3491 | 04:45 |
linuxphotogeek | Thanks | 04:45 |
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nixternal | good deal linuxphotogeek | 04:46 |
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mdke_ | yeah, still the same delay | 04:46 |
nixternal | ya, i will hold off for a bit on committing stuff | 04:46 |
nixternal | hrmm | 04:46 |
nixternal | i did notice it though just a second ago | 04:46 |
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linuxphotogeek | mdke_ There seems to be a problem with the directory tree now that I've updated | 05:08 |
linuxphotogeek | There is no 'desktopguide' directory in ubuntu | 05:08 |
mdke_ | linuxphotogeek: go ahead | 05:08 |
mdke_ | that's intentional... | 05:09 |
mdke_ | see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TopicBasedHelp | 05:10 |
linuxphotogeek | I've made a change and after a 'make dg' the change does not appear in ../build/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html | 05:10 |
linuxphotogeek | Worked last time | 05:11 |
mdke_ | yes, I haven't got around to fixing the build system | 05:11 |
mdke_ | what change did you make? | 05:11 |
linuxphotogeek | working on bug https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/+bug/62694 | 05:12 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 62694 in ubuntu-doc "Incorrect link to Scribus" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 05:12 |
linuxphotogeek | Simple really | 05:12 |
linuxphotogeek | Ubugtu - are working on the same bug? | 05:13 |
mdke_ | Ubugtu isn't real, he's a machine that tells you what a bug is about when you mention one | 05:13 |
mdke_ | bug 1 | 05:13 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 05:13 |
mdke_ | (see?) | 05:13 |
linuxphotogeek | Cool never seen that before. | 05:13 |
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mdke_ | if you do the correction in ubuntu/C/office/office.xml then you can do "yelp office.xml" to view your changes | 05:14 |
linuxphotogeek | When I check as you suggest the changes are included. So I'll send my patch. | 05:15 |
linuxphotogeek | The build worked for me last week | 05:15 |
linuxphotogeek | Got to run to book reading. I'll check back later | 05:15 |
linuxphotogeek | Thanks for your help | 05:16 |
mdke_ | I'll try and fix the builds eventually | 05:16 |
mdke_ | the changes have been very extreme so it will take a bit of time | 05:16 |
jsgotangco | hello | 05:21 |
mdke_ | hi jsgotangco | 05:21 |
jsgotangco | hello mdke_ how have you been doing lately | 05:21 |
mdke_ | jsgotangco: well thanks, if busy. You? | 05:22 |
jsgotangco | pretty busy at work as well | 05:22 |
jsgotangco | actually, extremely is a better term | 05:23 |
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jsgotangco | i guess its the price i have to pay working for a large company | 05:23 |
mdke_ | ah | 05:24 |
nixternal | hiya jsgotangco! | 05:30 |
nixternal | are you ready for chicago yet? | 05:30 |
jsgotangco | im leaving on tusday | 05:30 |
nixternal | what dates are you in chicago for? | 05:31 |
jsgotangco | ill be there from the 20th till 28th i think | 05:31 |
nixternal | cool | 05:31 |
nixternal | it was warm the past coupld of days, but the cold is back | 05:31 |
nixternal | you get to come to the Bears crazed city | 05:31 |
jsgotangco | then go to madison till new year, then go back to chicago on the 2nd | 05:32 |
jsgotangco | ill just go online when i get there and ping you | 05:32 |
nixternal | cool..i will try and schedule a free day before i get my daughter | 05:32 |
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jmantha | mdke: about? | 08:13 |
nixternal | ahh it is the jmantha | 08:16 |
jmantha | mwuahaha | 08:16 |
jmantha | nixternal: you looked at the new trunk yet? | 08:16 |
nixternal | does it have gold in it? | 08:17 |
nixternal | i have taken a brief look | 08:17 |
nixternal | i was waiting for mdke to finish his commits, then i was going to look it over and start kubuntu | 08:17 |
jmantha | according to his email the packaging is broken | 08:19 |
nixternal | for the time being it is | 08:19 |
nixternal | im sure we can fix that up so it isn't | 08:19 |
jmantha | yeah, I'm checking it out now | 08:21 |
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nixternal | i just committed kubuntu/C/* starting the topic based help | 09:07 |
nixternal | only things not validating are xrefs, which can be pulled together after a bit | 09:08 |
nixternal | mdke: here we go, transmitting file data and it is taking forever | 09:08 |
nixternal | it seems the files get pushed to the repo as normal, but when it goes to pull the revision info it seems to stall | 09:18 |
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mdke | jmantha: yes | 09:28 |
jmantha | mdke: yeah, just saw your email | 09:29 |
jmantha | mdke: what kind of breakage in packaging does the TBH create? | 09:29 |
jmantha | just need to install the files to the right places? | 09:29 |
mdke | yes | 09:29 |
mdke | I have fixed it all basically now | 09:29 |
mdke | maybe the occasional thing still broken | 09:30 |
jmantha | ah cool | 09:30 |
mdke | lots still to do though | 09:30 |
mdke | ubuntu/Makefile is still untouched | 09:31 |
jmantha | is the cron job set up now for doc.u.c? | 09:32 |
mdke | yes, it has been for serious numbers of months | 09:32 |
jmantha | well for a while it wasn't building | 09:33 |
jmantha | but I'm not sure if it was because of makefiles or what | 09:34 |
mdke | yes, that wasn't due to the cronjob though, it was due to the fact that the documents weren't building | 09:34 |
mdke | now, they certainly won't be :) | 09:34 |
jmantha | hmm | 09:34 |
jmantha | it's odd that they would just stop building | 09:34 |
mdke | not really | 09:35 |
jmantha | I think the packaging guide wasn't updates for a few months | 09:35 |
mdke | there are two really common reasons | 09:35 |
jmantha | s/updates/updated/ | 09:35 |
mdke | a) someone does a commit which invalidates a document | 09:35 |
mdke | b) someone changes a document so that the Makefile doesn't work, or changes the Makefile itself so that it doesn't work | 09:35 |
jmantha | if 1 file is invalid does it kill that whole build or just that doc? | 09:36 |
mdke | it kills the whole of the build for the group of documents (groups are ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu) | 09:36 |
jmantha | hmm, I see | 09:37 |
jmantha | does it log somewhere? | 09:37 |
mdke | no, but you can see the error by trying the build | 09:37 |
jmantha | it'd be handy if we had some sort of status page | 09:38 |
mdke | aha. ssh is working again | 09:43 |
mdke | jmantha: I don't know how that would work. But feel free to dig around | 09:48 |
jmantha | yeah, I might think about that | 09:49 |
nixternal | jmantha: status page reading the status from the xml docs or an updated wiki status page? | 10:15 |
jmantha | a page that shows the last time the different areas of doc.u.c built and if not shows an error message | 10:17 |
nixternal | ahh | 10:22 |
nixternal | hrmm.. | 10:22 |
nixternal | have the cron job log to a file that is accessible via the web | 10:26 |
jmantha | well, or have the makefile spit something out to a file | 10:27 |
nixternal | well, it would be easier just to append > /log/file.txt to the cron | 10:28 |
nixternal | i.e., 0 0 0 0 /path/to/Makefile /path/to/repo > /path/to/log.txt | 10:29 |
jmantha | yeah, but I'm not sure if we want all of it, but maybe | 10:30 |
jmantha | the first thing would at least be a status of "What worked and what didn't" | 10:30 |
nixternal | hmm. well, get the makefile to log, and then create a script that will execute a tail -f on the log >> txt | 10:31 |
mdke | whoosh | 10:57 |
mdke | svn has felt my wrath today | 10:57 |
jmantha | heh | 10:58 |
jmantha | nixternal: do you use vmware at all? | 11:01 |
mpt | On "svn up" I get "svn: Failed to add directory 'ubuntu': object of the same name already exists" | 11:14 |
mpt | What do I do now? :-] | 11:15 |
mdke | mpt: we had someone else report that too, I must have buggered it up. Can you rm -rf ubuntu/ and svn up again? | 11:15 |
mpt | ok | 11:27 |
mdke | sorry | 11:28 |
nixternal | LaserJock: yes | 11:29 |
nixternal | to vmware | 11:29 |
nixternal | hmm that is an odd error. i wonder why they got it? wonder what was different | 11:30 |
mdke | I removed the ubuntu directory with one commit, then added it with the next one, obviously svn didn't like it | 11:31 |
mdke | boh | 11:32 |
nixternal | ahh | 11:36 |
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