=== ssam [n=ssam@87.127.117.246] has joined #ubuntu-motu === muzzol_ [n=muzzol@62-43-64-39.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host55-237-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@36-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-018-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host55-237-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] Any REVU admins here that can "re-sync the REVU uploaders keyring"? [12:41] dcraven: yes, should be finished in a few minutes [12:42] sistpoty, thanks :) === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-148-159.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === engla [n=ulrik@kr-lun-116-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywi1ly is now known as chillywilly [01:00] dcraven: update done [01:01] hi [01:01] sistpoty, thanks again. [01:02] can a version name have two hyphens? [01:02] np [01:02] hvirtual (1:2.1.0-2svn20061104) unstable; urgency=low [01:02] 1:2.1.0-2svn20061104 [01:02] 1:2.1.0-2svn20061104-1 [01:02] is that correct? [01:02] it's not best practice, but it's legal [01:02] ok [01:03] it is because im still learning about packaging [01:03] in fact, I'd say "don't do it". [01:03] it's possible but then 2svn20061104 will be part of the upstream version [01:03] so i want to just icrease version for testing [01:03] why use that version string to begin with? [01:04] is what i've found in the package [01:04] this packages has been packaged before [01:04] i'll paste some of changelog [01:04] hvirtual (1:2.1.0-2svn20061104) unstable; urgency=low [01:04] [01:04] * SVN of 2006-11-04, non-debug build [01:04] [01:04] -- Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:25:03 +0100 [01:04] [01:04] hvirtual (1:2.1.0-1svn20060912) unstable; urgency=low [01:05] [01:05] * SVN of 2006-09-12, non-debug build, merge with Adam's 2.1 version [01:05] [01:05] -- Debian User Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:58:37 +0200 [01:05] [01:05] hvirtual (1:2.0.0) unstable; urgency=low [01:05] [01:05] * 2.0 [01:05] [01:05] -- Andraz Tori Tue, 8 Jan 2006 22:22:14 +0200 [01:05] eww. [01:06] first, it doesn't exist in Debian or Ubuntu, so you'd start with an initial packaging revision. [01:06] ah, ok [01:06] i also dont understand the colon [01:06] some light? [01:07] what precedes the colon is an epoch [01:07] i dont find any references to colon in ubuntu p. guide [01:07] e.g., 1:1.0-1 overrides 1.0-1 [01:08] is this usual? [01:08] it is used more often than I'd like, but no, it's not usual or recommended. [01:09] I would say it's usual [01:09] but of course I don't recommend it either [01:09] so can you give some light about how can i start the naming of this package [01:09] im getting confused [01:10] what's the upstream version right now? === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-138-121.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] 1:2.1.0-2svn20061104 [01:10] no, what was the last release by upstream? [01:11] not the debian package [01:11] cinelerra_2.1.0-2svn20061104.tar.gz [01:11] so, 2.1.0? [01:11] yes === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] 2.1.0-0ubuntu1~svn20061104, perhaps [01:12] ok [01:12] that's just my suggestion, ask some others [01:12] (my template is mjg59's recent compiz uploads) [01:13] and if i want to increment revision [01:13] I only see version 2.1 on cinelerra's upstream web page [01:13] what page are you looking? [01:13] there's two forks [01:13] I doubt upstream will release a tarball called 2.10-2svn20061104 [01:13] but are friendly forks [01:13] http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3 [01:14] is not that one [01:14] cinelerra [01:14] and cinelerra-cv [01:14] are diferent [01:14] minghua: upstream has some very, very ... interesting licensing issues. [01:14] sorry i dindt say that [01:14] is somewhat similar to sylpheed and sylpheed-claws [01:14] well, if they are _friendly_ forks, shouldn't they at least change the name? [01:15] actually, even unfriendly forks should do that [01:15] yes, i've asked that same question in cinelerra-cv channel [01:15] but seems that heroin people are ok with naming cinelerra-cv just cinelerra [01:15] i also think it would be better to name it cinelerra-cv [01:16] because maybe someday heroin want to release debs [01:17] i think i'll start a fresh naming to reflect all this [01:18] if i use this name cinelerra-cv_2.1.0-0ubuntu1~svn20061104 [01:18] crimsun_: I can imagine licensing is quite a touchy issue in video editing field [01:18] and then i want to increase revision [01:18] i just have to modifiy 1ubuntu1~svn20061104, right? [01:18] I don't think 2.1.0-0ubuntu1~svn20061104 is a good idea... [01:18] so? [01:19] maybe crimsun_ meant 2.1.0~svn20061104-0ubuntu1? === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] minghua: I hope that's what he meant. [01:19] but generally speaking, crimsun_ knows much better than I do [01:19] use either one [01:19] this package is not in debian, must i add ubuntu? [01:19] I used mjg59's compiz versioning as an example. [01:20] is not suposed to be used only when there's also a debian package? [01:20] crimsun_: Surely the ~svnYYYYMMDD is part of upstream? [01:20] I'm inclined to discard upstream's rather nasty versioning [01:20] I assume mjg59 keeps all the svn patches in his .diff.gz then [01:21] mjg59? === CypherBIOS [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] but then you need to discard upstream's tarball as well [01:21] frankly 2.1.0+svn20061104-0ubuntu1 makes a lot more sense. [01:22] so svn20061104 is NOT interpreted as revision, right? [01:22] in the just-cited case, no. [01:23] and can you answer my other question regarding packages that doesn't exist in debian? [01:24] i forgot a please :) [01:24] in the off chance that Debian accepts it, yes, you do need -0ubuntu1 [01:24] ah, i see [01:25] so if there's a possibility that a package goes to debian repos i must use that prefix [01:26] well, i'll use 2.1.0+svn20061104-0ubuntu1 [01:26] thanks for the time everyone [01:26] :) === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] hooray, one segfault found :) [01:35] oops, didn't mean to highlight you ;) [01:36] hehe [01:38] working on a f*cked up vhdl interpreter, written with lots of naughty hacks is sooo much fun :( === illovae [n=illovae@uni14-1-82-233-221-131.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] (thesis) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] hi all [01:52] hi fernando === Fujitsu is mystified as to how he is supposed to reject a bug in the Debian BTS. === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] Heya gang [01:57] hi bddebian [01:57] Hi sistpoty [01:57] Morning, bddebian. [01:57] Howdy Fujitsu [02:02] Fujitsu: are you trying to close a bug in the Debian BTS? [02:06] geser: Yes. [02:07] Is there no distinction between fixed and rejected, just resolved? [02:07] http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer.en.html#closing [02:08] That doesn't say what to do when it's not a valid bug. [02:08] I think there is no difference [02:09] there's always wontfix [02:10] Add wontfix and close it? [02:10] what's the context? [02:10] Debian #397909 [02:10] Fujitsu: you can ask in #debian-devel on OFTC [02:10] Debian bug 397909 in soundconverter "soundconverter: Does not convert m4a (AAC) files" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/397909 [02:11] that's a wontfix imo. [02:12] you can't do anything about it, because the GSt plugin doesn't exist. [02:12] That's what I though. [02:12] *thought [02:12] So I just add the tag and close it? [02:13] I wouldn't close it. [02:13] it's not resolved, but you aren't going to fix it [02:13] OK. === fowlduck [n=nate@75-130-31-23.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] Fujitsu: Are you going to merge zsync? [02:17] bddebian: You can take it if you want. I was going to get around to it at some point, but it's got a lot of code changes that I haven't got around to looking at yet. [02:17] Fujitsu: No, you can have it, someone just posted a merge on REVU [02:18] Ah. [02:18] Sounds bad. === ash211__ [n=andrew@user-1121f2u.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] hah, nice hand-off [02:18] crimsun_: ? === Fujitsu looks. [02:18] I'm just chuckling :) [02:18] "are you going to do it?" "no, you can" "no, really, -you- can." [02:19] bddebian: That's a very warped version of `just.' [02:20] Fujitsu: ? [02:20] November 19 != just. [02:21] I didn't mean it like "just now", I meant it like "oh, just that someone posted..." :) [02:21] Aha. [02:22] Basically all I wanted to know was whether or not to archive that upload off of REVU :-) [02:23] I'll have a look at it shortly. === bddebian starts the clock ;-) [02:24] holy crap. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403022 [02:24] Debian bug 403022 in mozilla-plugin-vlc "Non-existent vlcintf.xpt file!" [Grave,Open] [02:24] -grave-, dude. [02:25] sounds good. [02:25] that guy had better be glad ron lee isn't maintaining vlc. [02:25] Is he known for murdering people abusing severities? [02:26] murdering would be the nice way of saying it :) [02:27] Main packages don't belong on REVU do they? === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] bddebian: why not? === Fujitsu attacks LP and the requirement to have a Product registered before you can add an upstream task. [02:29] sistpoty: Becuase most of us aren't cool enough to upload them? :) [02:30] bddebian: well, there are quite some cool guys around. I'm not one of them though *g* [02:30] Do any main types even look at REVU? [02:30] I guess ajmitch does huh? [02:30] bddebian: have ajmitch look at it :P === ajmitch isn't cool [02:30] lol === ajmitch needs lunch [02:32] generally updates to existing packages don't belong on revu [02:32] ajmitch: they do, but revu should provide a debdiff to the existing one *g* [02:33] the rest of us try & discourage that sort of usage [02:33] since it's nice to keep revu for reviewing new packages [02:33] rather than splitting the procedure for reviewing updates between malone & revu [02:33] ajmitch: yes... I discourage it as well. because revu just sucks in that respect [02:34] Eeks, I didn't mean to start a fight, I'm just trying to clean up ;-) === ajmitch leaves [02:34] back later [02:35] cya ajmitch [02:35] Later ajmitch [02:42] dh_strip -a is what removes debug info? [02:43] is commented in my rules [02:43] also have this line commented [02:43] strip -x -s -R .comment -R .note debian/cinelerra/usr/lib/cinelerra/*.so [02:43] if i want to disable debug info must i uncomment those? [02:46] muzzol_: please use dh_strip to remove the debug info... (it might be used to split of the debug info to -dbgsym packages on the buildds) [02:47] so i can ignore that strip line? [02:48] sistpoty, this is first time i package this program. last guy leave debug info enabled [02:48] muzzol_: you should remove the strip line, it's redundant to dh_strip for normal builds [02:48] ok, that's what i wanted to know :) [02:48] thanks [02:48] np === sistpoty is off to bed now [02:54] gn8 everyone [02:55] 'night sistpoty [02:56] Bye, sistpoty. [02:56] Bah, bye === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === muzzol_ goes to bed === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ehazlett [n=ehazlett@adsl-69-212-246-164.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] crimsun_: http://fluxbuntu.org/fluxbuntu_ppc1.png === paran [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] joejaxx: right, what's special about that? [03:21] ps3? [03:21] ajmitch: the discs were build from scratch [03:21] ok [03:21] built* [03:21] that's a good start [03:23] ajmitch: i do not the ps3 kernel whould have the regular ubuntu versioning on it :P [03:23] so, uhm, what exactly is this "nixternal proofing packaging"? :-P [03:24] greetings all... is there a way to pass a gpg passphrase to dpkg-buildpackage so it doesn't wait for one? === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dominussuus [n=borden@206-248-177-235.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] minghua: making it nixternal-proof, I suspect :) === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] hello Hobbsee [03:26] hi Hobbsee [03:26] we need to promote Hobbsee to motu deity, too. [03:26] are there any plans to update gnome-pilot in edgy to 2.15? [03:26] dominussuus: none currently. [03:26] hey ajmitch [03:26] hey zul [03:26] how'd the meeting go? [03:27] crimsun_: I thought she was? [03:27] ajmitch: true [03:27] meeting was ok [03:27] obligatory bddebian reference was in the meeting, so it went well. :-) [03:27] crimsun - is there any way to request that because there's a rather crippling bug in 2.14 that's fixed in 2.15 [03:28] dominussuus: via backports, mayhap [03:28] Hobbsee: covered quite a bit of ground. [03:29] crimsun: backports? as in from feisty? [03:29] (and what does mayhap mean? I'm still picking up the abbreviations) [03:30] dominussuus: yes, and "perhaps" [03:30] crimsun_: what for? [03:31] @ the deity bit [03:31] oh, deity bits don't have to be explained! [03:31] was there anyting i missed after i left [03:31] "just cause" [03:31] zul: what was being discussed when you had to leave? [03:32] bzr i think [03:32] i was only paying half attention [03:32] crimsun_: but i didnt think i did anything that should make me a deity? [03:32] zul: ah. Yeah, some bits. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-December/001068.html === dominussuus [n=borden@206-248-177-235.dsl.teksavvy.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:34] zul: and that we elected to leave all the merges for bddebian [03:34] great.. [03:34] wow, that's a present. [03:34] happy hanauka [03:35] Hobbsee: well, for one, mortals don't have pointy sticks of doom :-) [03:35] minghua: good point. === Hobbsee actually did some merging yesterday [03:36] crimsun_: I got mentioned? === minghua heads home [03:37] be back later [03:38] bddebian: absolutely :) [03:41] Hmm === bddebian doesn't remember that [03:43] !logs [03:43] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [03:44] I freakin hate digging through diff.gz's to see if changes got applied.. :-( [03:47] can someone explain how to use dpkg-buildpackage -sgpg ? im trying to throw options at the gpg for signing [03:48] ehazlett: dpkg-buildpackage -sa -S -rfakeroot -k? [03:48] ehazlett: the -k is the bit you're after, i think [03:48] im trying to automate the key input... so it doesn't prompt... [03:49] as in the signing bit? [03:49] yeah [03:49] i dont think you can... [03:49] that's what i was afraid of... ;) [03:50] Hobbsee: thanks anyways... :) === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121f2u.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] ehazlett: it's kind of dangerous if you *did* want to automate that somehow [03:54] Did I understand from the meeting today that they feel we should actually fix the problems with packages on REVU? [03:55] Hobbsee: yeah, i know... for local use only... :) [03:55] nixternal: You around? [03:55] bddebian: or tell the people how to fix them [03:56] Hobbsee: Well that was my thinking so they "learned" but that wasn't the impression I got today [03:57] ooh, i see === Hobbsee is just getting to that bit of the meeting [04:08] [04:08] [04:10] right, interesting [04:10] very :) === Hobbsee notes that they didnt discuss SRU's [04:11] palski: ping? [04:11] What, you don't have the MOTU secret decoder ring? :) [04:11] Hobbsee: what did you need discussed? [04:11] what about them Hobbsee ? [04:11] ajmitch: dunno. people are starting to bitch that their changes are taking too long === Hobbsee shrugs [04:11] heya ajmitch bddebian Hobbsee btw [04:11] Hi imbrandon [04:11] Doesn't everyone bitch about everything taking too long? :-) [04:11] Hobbsee: bring it up on the list [04:12] hello imbrandon [04:12] personally, i think they're too long and painful, which is the main reason i dont put them through. and confusing [04:12] ajmitch: but ML's are evil [04:12] them don't complain :) [04:12] Hobbsee: it is the holidays too, people are putting in less time as a whole imho [04:12] bddebian: which is why we should shorten them :P [04:12] is part of it [04:12] imbrandon: that's true. [04:12] holidays? [04:12] hah [04:12] Hobbsee: probably a suitable discussion at MC [04:12] too long? 7 days isnt that long imho [04:13] but as crimsun said probably something for the MC to review [04:13] not that we need a council, when we have the motu trinity [04:13] ajmitch: yes, i'll bet that they'll become the council [04:13] imbrandon: it's not that, I don't think. It's a distinct lack of movement based on 'verification-motu-needed' [04:13] :P [04:14] crimsun_: frankly, it's hard to test stuff that you never use [04:14] Hobbsee: not likely as dholbach dident ask me "did i see myself on the council" so i dont think i'm up for the MC :) [04:14] ajmitch: agreed. [04:14] imbrandon: awwwwww === Hobbsee didnt get asked either, obviously [04:15] imbrandon: we should test those returned by https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=verification-motu-needed [04:15] Hobbsee: hehe no worries, here, i'll do it if asked and wont fuss if not :) [04:15] crimsun_: rockin, i dident know we could get a working list [04:15] imbrandon: he may still be asking people === imbrandon will do some of that tonight then [04:15] ajmitch: yes, people bitch about that too. that devs didnt fix a bug with a patch attached in 3 months, although -sponsors has only known about it for 3 days [04:15] regardless, I'll be pushing for those during the revu sprint, too [04:15] Hobbsee: note that the patch was only attached to the bug 3 days ago [04:15] Malone bug 3 in rosetta "Custom links for each translation team." [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3 [04:15] shut up Ubugtu [04:16] hehe [04:16] crimsun_: right on [04:16] ajmitch: yes, i know [04:17] crimsun_: btw can you talk to port 902 ? ( the reason i asked is i opend up that port for vmware console access to your VM if you have vmware console installed ) [04:17] if you can your more than welcome to use it [04:18] imbrandon: you hand out vmware access now too? :) [04:18] imbrandon: I don't have it installed [04:18] ajmitch: only in one special case [04:18] :) [04:18] aw [04:18] but my box is underpowered :) [04:18] hehe the vmware box thats on ( amd64 3400+ ) is less powerfull than your desktop [04:19] probably === imbrandon wants a shiney new vmware esx server === ajmitch wants a shiny new box at home [04:19] & some bandwidth to host stuff [04:19] just a pony here. [04:19] heh i got the bandwidth and the rackspace now, just no servers to plug into the holes but i'll be fixing that over the next while === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] i just picked up a sun ultra 5 free yesterday [04:20] that i might try to rack on a shelf === ajmitch hates imbrandon some more [04:20] Damn.. [04:20] dude and ultra 5 is only 400mhz [04:20] got a ppc for the rack as well? [04:20] I used to get nice hardware for nada :-( [04:21] ajmitch: yea i have my laptop i took to uds reloaded with a server install in the rack now, if i can find a beefier ppc i will replace it [04:21] as is its a 800mhx 640mb ram [04:21] yeah I know you were considering putting the laptop in there [04:21] but it's not really suitable for a rack [04:22] so as of this moment i have the ppc lappy reconfigured as a server and a x86 box actualy IN the rack , and a ultra 5 getting ready to possibly get put in [04:22] yea thats my main problem, most of the hardware i have is "rack ready" other than my x86 and x86_64 boxes [04:22] s/is/is not/ [04:23] so imbrandon can be our build farm now [04:23] although a lappy is better than a desktop [04:23] as far as that goes [04:23] ajmitch: yup, thats what i'm slowly doing [04:23] :) [04:23] Hobbsee: You still have ksudoku up on REVU? [04:24] with this pay increase i'm thinking i can have it done by febuary with all the arches i wanna put in there [04:24] bddebian: if i do, it should be archived, why? === Hobbsee just keeps merging it [04:24] Hobbsee: I'm working throught the list [04:24] I'll archive it [04:24] bddebian: which list? === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] Hobbsee: REVU [04:27] bddebian: ah right === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-109-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] crimsun_: on those how many MOTU's are needed ? i thought it was only 1 [04:31] ( e.g. some have 2 and 3 already ) [04:31] imbrandon: for SRU? it still stands at 5 votes [04:31] or are you meaning they only need build/uploaded [04:31] seperate from the SRU team approval [04:32] after uploading and testing though right ? [04:32] e.g. "works for me" [04:32] and umm people arent clear about what they areacking , ugh, all i see is a bunch of "+1"'s [04:32] yeah [04:32] it's not clear at all [04:32] s/areacking/are\ acking/ [04:32] more motu mess :) [04:33] man i wish i could have spent more time at the MOTU meeting today [04:33] it was just as i was getting off work though [04:33] hrm [04:33] and we cant see whats in -proposed huh ? [04:34] imbrandon: ha ha, your satiric +1 description really sounds like backports testing comments :D [04:34] imbrandon: Sure you can [04:34] jdong: well there are diffrent types of acks on these [04:34] edgy-proposed is a real life, reachable repo. [04:34] ah, ok [04:34] we have to be able to see what's in -proposed to be able to test it! [04:34] StevenK: i mean from LP without adding it to my sources.list [04:35] imbrandon: that's just because LP sucks :) [04:35] e.g. if i wanna cherry pick some packages [04:35] You might, I haven't tried. === ajmitch searches [04:35] I don't know if any pockets (the technical name for them) are exposed === jdong notices that his absurd use of sshfs-over-wifi is causing 17s lag === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon25025.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-1121jee.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] jdong: sshfs? [04:38] Hobbsee: FUSE filesystem for ssh [04:38] ah [04:38] more jdong crack [04:38] Hobbsee: i.e. sshfs server:/foo ~/bar [04:38] Hobbsee: and voila, ssh mounted as a filesystem :) [04:38] ahhh [04:39] sshfs is scary [04:39] ajmitch: hahaha, wouldnt surprise me [04:39] very handy, ahem, ajmitch :D [04:39] +1 for sshfs [04:39] Then again, tramp has done it for years. [04:39]