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InfelizArwen: 6.6.612:01
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cmwebArwen, nothing happened12:01
Arwencmweb, you might not be able to do that because only root can create links in /var12:01
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edd_how do u get to the back-ports?12:01
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HuibertGillnceterval: first try "sudo su", then "export LANG=C" then "LC_ALL=C" then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf"12:01
crimsun_nceterval: / HuibertGill: you need to pass the whitespace-delimited locale list to locale-gen12:01
cmwebarwen, im loged in as root12:01
Arwencmweb, it's ln -s <target> <location for symlink>12:01
Arwenyou mighta had the order reversed12:01
crimsun_nceterval: see GNOME's System> Administration> Language Support, or /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED's left-most column12:02
HuibertGillArwen: try "cat /proc/version"12:02
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cmwebroot@cmweb:/home/owner# ln -s /var/www /home/Owner/Desktop/WWW12:02
cmwebln: creating symbolic link `/home/Owner/Desktop/WWW' to `/var/www': No such file or directory12:02
ncetervalHuibertGill, Wen I do that, I just get: *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/perl terminated Aborted12:02
edd_crimsun_: how do i get to back-ports?12:03
crimsun_!backports |edd_12:03
ubotuedd_: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports12:03
chableanyone can tell me how do i boot kernel 2.6.17-10-generic , default12:03
edd_ty12:03
ncetervalcrimsun_, I see the column you're talking about, but I don't know what to do with it.12:03
ubuntui am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"12:03
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cmwebarwen, last message for you12:03
crimsun_nceterval: choose the ones you want, and pass them to locale-gen(8)12:03
HuibertGillnceterval: hmm, that's strange, it is even stranger that I reme,ber the same output from this afternoon, but it was at work, so I can't check now......12:03
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joeishi am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"12:03
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ArwenHuibertGill, that'd be nice, but the version I have is not the one which I want to find out12:04
ncetervalcrimsun_, Forgive me for being so ignorant, but I don't know how to pass them.12:04
crimsun_nceterval: type them in a Terminal12:04
ncetervalPlease give an example12:04
Arwenchable, edit the menu.lst in /boot/grub and adjust the default=whatever to whichever one is the kernel you want12:04
Arwencmweb, ?12:04
chableu mean /boot/grub/menu.lst ?12:04
Arwenjoeish, that's a common error.... have you searched the ubuntu forums?12:04
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crimsun_nceterval: sudo locale-gen da_DK.UTF-8 de_BE.UTF-812:05
cmwebarwen,12:05
cmwebroot@cmweb:/home/owner# ln -s /var/www /home/Owner/Desktop/www12:05
cmwebln: creating symbolic link `/home/Owner/Desktop/www' to `/var/www': No such file or directory12:05
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ncetervalcrimsun_, Ah, thank you.  No errors with that, I'll try dpkg again.12:05
Arwenchable, yes12:05
joeishArwen, i have been figured i would try here too12:05
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chablemelin ceni hin ln sla i 'eladhach , Arwen12:06
chablele hannon12:06
ncetervalcrimsun_, Fantastic, that did the trick!  HuibertGill, thank you for your help!12:06
gwayneis there a way to get rid of the ubuntu message i get when I ssh into my box?12:06
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Arwencmweb, err, do you have a /var/www?12:06
h00tdoes anyone know how can i set to "erase" completely instead of moving into trash12:06
Helpmeeewhen i try to uninstall linux-restricted-modules i get this error msg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-restricted-modules12:06
gwaynei dont see a way to remove it in bash.bashrc12:06
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Arwencmweb, or are you trying to link /var/www to /home/owner/desktop/www ?12:06
cmwebarwen, im looking rihgt at it, theirs a phpmyadmin then apache-default12:07
HuibertGillcrimsun_: good one, thanks for the info12:07
Dial_toneuninstall it using what method?12:07
cmwebarwen, yesss..12:07
h00tdoes anyone know how can i set to "erase" completely instead of moving into trash12:07
Arwenh00t, it's in nautilus preferences, you can also use the rm command12:07
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h00tArwen, sorry wrong window12:08
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HelpmeeeDial_tone, using -r12:08
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jovanshallo i am using ubuntu warty and i wont upgrade to edgy is it possible12:08
ThePubso between my previous install and this new one I have generated an error on a seemingly identical configuration.  When gnome loads up now, just after the startup icons it says that HAL could not be initialized.12:08
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Arwencmweb, sorry for being stupid, but what folder are you trying to set as target and what dir do you want your symlink to be in?12:08
ncetervalHuibertGill, Hmm, now the perl locale problem is gone, but the "stack smashing" error still keeps me from finishing the Edgy upgrade.12:08
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HuibertGillnceterval: never heard of that during edgy upgrade, I think it's googletime again12:09
Arwenjovans, you won't upgrade to edgy.... is it possible - well, yes?12:09
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ncetervalHuibertGill, The first result is about an Edgy upgrade, form the Ubuntu forums :)12:10
cmwebArwen, sorry for my stupidity, i forgot obout that my username is not capitalized12:10
cmwebI got it12:10
Infeliz6876t12:10
Infeliz bjkl12:10
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Infelizohops12:10
h00tArwen, i lost the start menu from the panel on top... i managed to get back the start menu ... do you know how to separate the "preferences" and "administrative" on the panel12:10
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ncetervalHuibertGill, Apparently, in that particular case, using aptitude rather than apt get was the solution...   seems odd.12:10
HuibertGillnceterval: yes, seems odd12:11
cmwebarwen, but you can tell me thes, what user should the www dir be in12:11
Arwencmweb, lol12:11
chablebnrb reboot12:11
HuibertGillnceterval: did it work for you?12:11
Arigatowhat is the difference between a link and a symbolic link?12:11
Whilsmithehey - trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on my desktop but when i hit enter to start the livecd/install at the initial boot screen from the cd it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor that never does anything, i've tried adding break=bottom to the list of boot options and various other things i found on forums but nothing works12:11
Whilsmitheanyone know anything that might work?12:11
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ncetervalHuibertGill, I'm trying to figure out how to use aptitude, I'll give it a try once I do.12:12
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Arwenh00t, err.... try running the menu editor (alacarte)12:12
Arwencmweb, hmm.... no idea - where is it?12:12
HuibertGillArigato: first google result for your exact wording: "http://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.htmlhttp://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.html"12:12
felixjetcan i dissable anacron and atd from services? they are cron's but i dont know if it will f*ck my pc12:12
HuibertGillnceterval: I never got the hang of aptitude12:12
cmweb /var/www12:12
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ArwenArigato, a symlink redirects a call to a file/folder to another one. A hardlink/link gives a file/folder multiple names and makes it appear to exist multiple times12:12
Arwenfelixjet, yes - system > administration > services >anacron12:13
felixjetbut i can dissable them without no risk?12:13
felixjeti know how to do, i just want to know if it will be bad12:13
HuibertGillArigato: a hardllinks is an inode pointer, a softlink only holds te path/filename info...12:13
Arwencmweb, so... what do you mean what user should it be in?12:13
HuibertGilllink "http://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.html" (corrected sorry)12:14
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cmwebarwen its in root root it should be in another one12:14
chableits working12:14
SlartIf a process reports as a Zombie in the system-monitor, is it dead? can I kill it? can it get better? should I kill it?12:14
Arwencmweb, I'm lost - what are you trying to do?12:14
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chablerim hennaid Arwen12:14
ArwenSlart, you can kill it or leave it - zombie is an app that's dead but still shows in the process list12:14
Arwenchable, ???12:14
ncetervalHuibertGill, It looks like aptitude is getting the same stack smashing error but going through with the dpkg commands anyway...  I don't quite understand, but I won't complain.12:15
n2diy_Are there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?12:15
SlartArwen: what makes a process go Zombie?12:15
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CydeHow do I reinstall all of the stuff in /etc/ that comes with a package?  I just removed and installed something, but none of the files in /etc/ got fixed.12:15
cmwebarwen, scratch it.... Whats the membership command, i need to add my self to www-data12:15
HuibertGillnceterval: so it like --force in dpkg?12:15
Arwencmweb, no idea how to add to group, sorry12:15
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CydeArwen: sudo usermod -G www-data -a your_user_name12:15
ncetervalHuibertGill, Oh, maybe, I'm not sure.12:15
eilkerwhat happens if i delete a script from etc/init.d,   i dont want no-ip script anymore12:15
CydeErrrr, cmweb: sudo usermod -G www-data -a your_user_name12:15
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ArwenSlart, basically an error in the app causing it to die12:16
SlartArwen: ok. Thanks for your help12:16
porsiipHi, I used this guide(http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide) to try to get better screen card settings, but now when I start ubuntu I only get the command line, when I try to write startx it stands fatal error, no screen, is there something I can do to fix this. thanks for all the help I can get on this12:16
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chablepedich Edhellen , Arwen  ?12:16
ArwenSlart, the easiest way to fix zombied apps is to reboot12:16
Hinjhttp://www.irseek.com/files/Freenode/ubuntu/December/10.10.html?hilite=ubuntu12:16
cmwebsudo usermod -G www-data -a owner ? i did that but still have no access to my www12:16
HuibertGilleilker: look into "man update-rc.d" or "update-rc.d --help"12:16
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s4ltydoghello folks12:16
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n2diy_Arwen, why not just kill the zombie from Top?12:17
cmwebcyde, that last one was for you12:17
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Arwenn2diy, sometimes it doesn't work12:17
HuibertGilleilker: if you just remove the script, you will get a lot of broken symlinks in /etc/rc**.d12:17
Cydecmweb: You need to relog.12:17
s4ltydogHas anyone had an issue where when you install ubuntu, the monitor turns a greenish hue (I've made sure it is not the monitor)12:17
Cydecmweb: Changes to groups only take effect once you establish a new shell session.12:17
n2diy_Arwen, ah, I c12:17
chablei need to upload some food12:17
Arwens4ltydog, yes... this is usually caused by an xorg error12:17
cmwebcyde, so is their a command to that?12:17
CydeHow do I reinstall all of the stuff in /etc/ that comes with a package?  I just removed and installed something, but none of the files in /etc/ got fixed.12:17
SlartArwen: hmm.. do these zombified processes take memory? smell bad or make any kind of trouble? or can I just leave them if I dont want to reboot right now?12:18
Cydecmweb: How are you logged in, on the command line, in a terminal window, SSH, etc.?12:18
Arwens4ltydog, oh wait.. greenish hue, sorry, nvm - never seen it before12:18
n2diy_Cyde, how did you remove and install them?12:18
cmwebim in gnome on a terminal12:18
Cyden2diy_: apt-get remove xxxxx   apt-get install xxxxxxx12:18
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Cyden2diy_: I messed up and deleted something in /etc/ that the package came with, now reinstalling it isn't bringing that conf file back.12:18
porsiipIs there an easy way to get my old scrren card settings back? I only get the command line, cause I messed something up, while I tried to change the settings12:18
s4ltydogI'm thinking it may have something to do with the graphic card drivers?12:18
eilkerHuibertGill: done, thank you, :)  sudo update-rc.d no-ip remove12:18
ArwenSlart, they do smell bad, as they're zombies. They usually take 0 mem, something that you can verify. They may cause errors, but are usually symptoms of a bigger problem12:18
n2diy_Cyde, that should have worked.12:18
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bruenigporsiip, what did you change...12:19
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Arwen!acl12:19
nopleasehi12:19
Cyden2diy_: It didn't12:19
ubotuacl: Access control list utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.39-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 220 kB12:19
n2diy_test12:19
refus3dwhere is the best place to get Emerald themes12:19
SlartArwen: ok, sounds like a reboot is in order then12:19
bruenig!hi | noplease12:19
ubotunoplease: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:19
s4ltydogporsiip you can reconfigure xorg.conf12:19
SlartArwen: thanks12:19
bruenig!xconfig | porsiip12:19
ubotuporsiip: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:19
cmwebcyde, in gnome on terminal12:19
n2diy_Cyde, I don't know what to tell you.12:19
Cydecmweb: So close the terminal window and open another one.12:19
s4ltydogrefus: Been a while since i've checked, have you tried gnomelook.org?12:19
n2diy_Are there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?12:20
Arwendoes anyone know of a gui tool to change acls?12:20
cmwebcyde, restart the computer, im in gnome12:20
Arwenand does using an acl overwrite my octal file permissions? if not, does it take over?12:20
Cydecmweb: You don't need to restart the computer, just open another terminal window.12:20
Cydecmweb: Ohhh, hrmm. .. you mean you're using Gnome's GUI file browser to look at your file system?12:21
n2diy_Cyde, run updatedb from a terminal, maybe the stuff is there, but the db doesn't know it12:21
cmwebcyde, Yes,12:21
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Cydecmweb: Restart gnome then I guess.12:21
ncetervalHuibertGill, aptitude seemed to be working, but then returned errors while processing every package.12:21
Cydecmweb: You don't need to restart your computer though.12:21
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cmwebcyde, i know of no other way to do that12:21
HuibertGillnceterval: hope they will go away, after the upgrade has completed.12:22
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JFG8721no puedo12:22
jovansis this the right channel for me?12:22
Cydecmweb: Press Alt-F1 to get a real terminal.  (But before you do that, note that Alt-F7 brings you back into X11)12:22
jovansxubuntu12:22
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cmwebOk in terminal i do what cyde12:23
jovansi'd like to download xubuntu feisty is it availible?12:23
ncetervalHuibertGill, It failed to upgrade, though, so it seems that I am stuck again.12:23
HuibertGill!xubuntu12:23
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"12:23
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Cydecmweb: Well first of all log out of Gnome ... there should be a GUI way to do that.12:23
eilkerhow can i have whole man pages ? not only from console, pdf prefable :)12:23
porsiipubotu: what shall I do when I'm reconfiguring the xserver? after writing the command... I'm a noob...12:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about what shall I do when I'm reconfiguring the xserver? after writing the command... I'm a noob... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:23
cmwebcyde, its called shutdown :12:23
cmweb:)*12:23
untony2hey12:23
HuibertGillnceterval: have you tried "apt-get dist-upgrade" a few times? (sound funny but it might work)12:23
ncetervalHuibertGill, Several12:24
jovansare xubuntu feisty herd 1 availib12:24
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crimsun_jovans: no.12:24
jovansbut i have found that iso image12:24
HuibertGillnceterval: what does apt-get dist-upgrade -f say?12:24
crimsun_jovans: I highly doubt that.12:24
d00dAnyone use Koversation, i can't get it to auto nickserv :[12:24
ncetervalHuibertGill, dist-upgrade needs an -f install, -f install fails, aptitude fails...  not sure what to do,12:24
jovanshttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/12:24
crimsun_jovans: that's not Herd 1.12:24
crimsun_jovans: believe me, I made the final call on that one.12:25
jovansbut feisty or?12:25
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HuibertGillnceterval: all fail with the stack smash error?12:25
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crimsun_jovans: it's a snapshot that was the Herd 1 candidate. It's broken in many situations, though.12:25
ncetervalHuibertGill, Actually, hold on, I have not tried a dist-upgrade -f, just an -f install.  I will do that.12:25
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HuibertGillnceterval: k12:25
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ncetervalHuibertGill, It failed with a dependency problem that I think I need to -f install to fix.  I can pastebin, if you'd like.12:26
d00dWho uses Kovsation here?12:26
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ncetervalHuibertGill, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37249/12:27
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beerockxsanyone know what might cause Totem to display videos with false colours (skin shows as blue, e.g.) VLC is working fine.12:27
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KrinkleI can't connect to my hub or get to the internet through ubuntu. Yesterday someone suggested gnome network manager. I can't seem to find that program in any of the program lists and I still can't connect. Pinging google.com says it's an invalid address. Is there something really simple I'm missing?12:28
joeishi am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"12:28
crimsun_beerockxs: video output method, perhaps?12:28
joeishi have check the forums and cant find any answers12:28
beerockxscrimsun_: where would I set that?12:28
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ski-worklapwhat's with the UUID stuff in /etc/fstab ?12:28
HuibertGillnceterval: brb12:28
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ski-worklapit's a lot uglier than /dev/hda6 or so, and I can't figure out what real world benefit it has?12:29
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HuibertGillnceterval: have you tried "apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg"12:29
crimsun_ski-worklap: a lot of HDs attached to laptop docks hijack primary indices.12:29
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crimsun_ski-worklap: suddenly booting from /dev/hda1 takes a completely different meaning12:29
ncetervalHuibertGill, No, I will.12:30
cmwebljl, your going to kill me12:30
ncetervalHuibertGill, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).12:30
crimsun_ski-worklap: i.e., it's a persistence issue that the uuid issue resolves.12:30
ski-worklapweird12:30
beerockxscrimsun_: hmm, it looks like it's behaving wrong when using Xv.12:30
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beerockxsIs there a know problem with fglrx and Xv?12:30
HuibertGillnceterval: then try "apt-get -f --reinstall install"12:30
cmwebWhats up with this12:30
cmwebowner@cmweb:~$ locate php.ini12:30
cmweb/etc/php4/apache2/php.ini12:30
cmweb/etc/php5/cgi/php.ini12:30
ski-worklapso you're talking about full fledged laptop docks, not external (usb/firewire/whatever) hard drives?12:31
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HuibertGillnceterval: just guessing though12:31
age6racerHi all, I'm having trouble setting up my wireless driver Linksys WPC45G (Broadcom) I' currently using bcm43xx but my dmesg is full of errors about this  :(12:31
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ncetervalHuibertGill, Another error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37250/12:32
age6racer*WPC54G12:32
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ncetervalVery frustrating12:32
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cmweb!wireless12:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:32
joeishi have check the forums and cant find any answers12:32
age6racerI've been there and done that. i was hoping someone here had set up the same or a similar card12:33
HuibertGillnceterval: with the unmet dependencis, did apt tell wich packages are missing?12:33
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age6racerI was here yesterday talking to a couple of guys who had. They recommended upgrading to edgy. But nothing has improved so i was coming back for more ideas...12:33
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joeishi am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"12:33
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KrinkleI see a lot of faqs on getting wireless networking working. How do you get regular networking working. If I boot up in windows I connect fine. If I boot up in ubuntu it doesn't. I enabled the card what more does it want?12:34
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ncetervalHuibertGill, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37251/12:34
rc-1i have a usb HD, and when i plug it in its not listed in lsusb, but the kernel DOES recognize it, please help!12:34
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ncetervalHuibertGill, Thanks, again, for all the help12:34
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Drako60what happened with the last kernel update?12:34
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rc-1Drako60, the restart after that it didnt recognize my usb drive12:35
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Drako60rc-1, i wish it was only my USB drive, i'm having kernel panics that i can't get any messages on, ioctl failures, X crashing12:36
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rc-1ouch!12:36
eilkerhow can i have whole man pages ? not only from console, pdf prefable :) , i couldnt find it in google12:36
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mzanfardinoHelp!12:36
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Drako60even gcc is segfaulting when i try to compile a new kernel12:36
mzanfardinoI can't get my java plugin to work with Firefox under Edgy!12:36
kitcheeilker: I haven't found any pdf's but you can find man pages on line all over12:37
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mzanfardinoanyone else having this problem/know of a solution?12:37
mzanfardinoI swear I've ready the instructions, but to no avail!12:37
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eilker!man12:38
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands12:38
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matt____is it possible to use lightscribe disk labling in ubuntu? on the lightscribe website, it has a linux versian, (rpm), but clearly says it doesn't support debian. if i convery it with alien, will that do it? or is it something more than that?12:38
crimsun_mzanfardino: pastebin the directory contents of /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/12:38
HuibertGillnceterval: try using dpkg directly for this package, it has a nifty --force-all (dpkg --force-help) dpkg needs the full path to the DEB file as an argument12:38
crimsun_mzanfardino: specifically, ls -l the directory contents of12:38
crimsun_argh.12:38
SaudiLinuxhi12:38
eilkerkitche: it would be great to have it as pdf12:38
HuibertGillnceterval: but be carefull, this might severly break your system.12:38
crimsun_mzanfardino: specifically, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/12:38
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mzanfardinomozilla-firefox?!?  damnit.  hang on...12:38
crimsun_mzanfardino: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:38
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dobbbobwhat is the command to see if video accel is turned on?12:38
aenthey, I'm trying to burn a video DVD, I have an mpeg file, whats the easiest way to do that?12:39
matt____is it possible to use lightscribe disk labling in ubuntu? on the lightscribe website, it has a linux versian, (rpm), but clearly says it doesn't support debian. if i convery it with alien, will that do it? or is it something more than that?12:39
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ski-worklapdobbbob - glinfo or something like that....12:39
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matt____is it possible to use lightscribe disk labling in ubuntu? on the lightscribe website, it has a linux versian, (rpm), but clearly says it doesn't support debian. if i convery it with alien, will that do it? or is it something more than that?12:39
ncetervalHuibertGill, I see...  Well, would it be better to just force one option or another?  Also, where does apt put cached debs?12:39
ski-worklapdobbbob, glxinfo12:39
crimsun_matt____: cdrecord supports lightscribe, yes.12:39
kitchedobbbob: glxinfo|grep rendering12:39
ski-worklappipe it into less there's a lot of output12:39
HuibertGillnceterval: I'm sorry but I have to pickup my wife from the station, so I'll be off and can't help you anymore, I hope you get your upgrade fixed, but it does not look to good ATM, "may the source be with you!"12:39
matt____so how do i go about that?12:39
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ncetervalHuibertGill, Thanks12:40
matt____cdrecord, a program?12:40
crimsun_matt____: it's the backend burning program that just about all gui burning apps use.12:40
HuibertGillnceterval: apt location: "/var/cache/apt/archives/"12:40
matt____how do i get it?12:40
eilkerwhat happens if i disable pcmcia script in booting, i am on pc...12:40
mzanfardinocrimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37254/12:40
dobbbobwhat is the glxcommand to SHOW the glxgears framerate?12:40
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Krinkleif I install ubuntu without a mount onto a partition can it still see that partition? If I had .avi files could it read them? If not, what should I mount on it where it woln't hurt the data?12:41
HuibertGillnceterval: If you achive anything or want to conntact me later just write, I'll wil lcheck later with "lastlog"12:41
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matt____how can i get cdrecord?12:41
ncetervalHuibertGill, Alright12:41
HuibertGillbye, bye12:41
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crimsun_mzanfardino: take a close look at the two libjavaplugin*.so12:41
ski-worklapdobbbob, hmm i dunno, but if you find out please let me know i'd like to see what i get12:42
rickymplhi. why is it that when i plugin a usbdisk, it mounts it but it displays characters like  in a weird way?12:42
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mzanfardinooh-kay....12:42
ski-worklaprichiefrich, do you have nls=utf8 in your mount options?12:42
bobbychello, i was attempting to modify file permissions for a file "/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom" but i've gone and messed it up and now i cant even access it12:42
rickymplski-worklap, how can i check that? sorry12:43
bobbyccan anyone tell me how to get rwx for this file please12:43
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bobbycmy second day using linux12:43
mzanfardinocrimsun_: one is a logical link to /usr/local/jrel... while the other points to /etc/alternatives/firefox...12:43
ski-worklaprickympl, check the output of mount12:43
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cmwebhow do i uninstall12:43
cmwebapt-get uninstall?12:43
ski-worklapbobbyc, sudo chmod 755 /your/file12:43
crimsun_mzanfardino: yes, now follow the /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so symlink12:43
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adrianhow do i install apche from terminal12:44
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ski-worklapdoes anyone else have problems with sun java 1.5 crashing both as firefox and with standalone programs like azureus?12:44
rickymplski-worklap, i get this: /dev/sdc1 on /media/SWISSMEMORY type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)12:44
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eilker!lamp |adrian12:44
ubotuadrian: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:44
mzanfardinocrimsun_:  points to: firefox-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/lib/libgcjwebplugin.so12:44
matt____how can i get cdrecord?12:44
ski-worklaprickympl, hmm, it says utf8 in there, which seems right to me, so i'm not sure to be honest12:44
c0rt3zanyone ever use jetaudio mp3players?12:44
crimsun_mzanfardino: so more than likely you don't want that.12:44
cmweb!uninstall12:45
matt____can someone walk me through setting up lightscribe?12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
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rickymplski-worklap, could it be that the dir in question was copied to the disk using windows?12:45
mzanfardinoshould I simply delete it?12:45
ski-worklaprickympl, that's my assumption, yes12:45
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bobbychey thanks ski12:45
eilkercmweb: apt-get remove ?12:45
cvrsebobbyc: u dont need +x on that file, sudo chmod 644 /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom12:45
rickymplski-worklap, how can i fix this?12:45
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matt____lightscribe help?12:46
ski-worklaprickympl, sorry, i don't have any other ideas. try google and such or wait until someone more knowledgeable comes around12:46
matt____please12:46
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rickymplski-worklap, thx12:46
mzanfardinobrb12:46
ski-worklapubuntuforums is a great reource12:46
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pianoboy3333!lightscribe12:47
mame_runnerI have downloaded tons of programs for ubuntu and now I am going to wipe my drive clean and start over. Is there any way to save the packages I downloaded and that way I wont need such heavy use of the network connection?12:47
grogoreowhy is it that I can see the output from my Hauppage card in Ekiga but not in VLc and transcode not getting anything from it?12:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:47
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cmwebOk it says that php4 is not install but the php4 php.ini file is still their how do i do a compleate removal in term12:47
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mzanfardinocrimsun_: I removed the link to the /etc/alternative, retstarted firfox, and still no java... damnit, what am I doing wrong?12:49
cmwebin terminal * LAST MESSAGE12:49
adrianI want to install apache mysql etc, is their a gui or web interface I can use12:49
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grogoreocmweb, apt-get --purge remove <package>12:50
cmwebadrian, apt-get install apach212:50
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TCrafter@adrian: You should be able to install them from Synaptic - PhpMyAdmin is the standard web interface to MySQL.12:50
cmwebOk my bad i forgot i got to tewll apache that php5 is teir12:51
cmwebhow do i setup apache for php512:51
jribmzanfardino: why would you delete it?12:51
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aliendream23hello, I have a question12:51
matt____anyone have a clue about lightscribe in ubuntu?12:51
aliendream23is there a flavor of linux that can load onto a palm device or pda?12:52
Drako60why does this happen to me12:52
jrib!lamp | cmweb12:52
ubotucmweb: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:52
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aliendream23to replace the software that comes with the device12:52
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cmwebIVE ALREDY GOT LAMP12:52
cmwebmy bad12:52
cmwebmy bad12:52
crimsun_mzanfardino: did you verify that the Sun one is valid?12:52
cmwebsorry12:52
jribcmweb: does that page help you?12:53
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TCrafterDoes anyone have experience with Ubuntu x64, or can point me to a resource that describes the advantages/disadvantages?12:53
adriani need to install mysql and perl from terminal?12:53
mzanfardinojrib: let me bottom-line it: I'm relatively new to linux, I have no idea why java isn't working.  I have no other place to turn.  Why did I delete the reference?  I misunderstood the line of questioning from crimsun and thought that might be the next step.  Clearly I was mistaken.12:53
n2diyAre there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?12:53
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d3This weather.sh / xslt puked out a parse error for conky. any fix I look for tells me about php4/512:53
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ValMarkoWhat does it mean sh ?12:54
mzanfardinocrimsun_: I'm not sure how to verify that the Sun one is valid... how would I do that?12:54
cmwebjrib, nope12:54
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alaa_hi, im installing cdemu but i dont know what they mean by you need the source of your current running kernel.12:54
alaa_/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include needs to point at it.12:54
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IrCShAdYhello i neeed help plz12:54
cmweb!ask12:54
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:54
Infelizaint get it12:54
ValMarko! sh12:54
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands12:54
Drako60does anyone know what happened in the last kernel update for Edgy (AMD64) that messed things up so badly?12:54
jribcmweb: but it tells you how to setup Php5 with Apache.  What step doesn't work?12:54
d3Infeliz, you get around eh?12:54
Infelizuh12:55
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cmwebhu, didnt see that jrib12:55
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ValMarkosh extensions. What does it mean?12:55
d3Or is that a different Infeliz on efnet's #ubuntu.12:55
IrCShAdYSh=Shell12:55
jribcmweb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-59bdeb1f6438eddbde544b41ca0a5149c59624b612:55
cmwebjrib, i only see php5 with mysql12:55
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mzanfardinojrib: I'be relinked to the /etc/alternative path...12:55
Infelizd3: sam guy12:55
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mzanfardinocrimsun_: how do I verify that it's valid?12:56
IrCShAdYi want install my modem Sageme 800 but i have 2error in (make)12:56
ValMarko! flash12:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:56
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d3Infeliz, nice to meet ya sam. ;)12:56
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IrCShAdYi want install my modem Sageme 800 but i have 2error in (make)12:56
jribmzanfardino: personally, I would remove the local installation of java you have.  Install from the repositories, and then use alternatives to point to that one12:56
IrCShAdYAny one cna help me?12:56
adrianany gui available to configure apache12:56
joeishi am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"....forums dont help12:57
cmwebjrib, i guess it works... i didnt have libapache2-mod-php512:57
mzanfardinocrimsun_: nm, I think I know what you mean12:57
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[A] ndy80hi12:57
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Drako60joeish, try dvd://112:57
[A] ndy80how can I rename all files in sub-directories of mp3/ from <filename>.MP3 to <filename>.mp3 ?12:58
adrianhow can i install webmin from terminal12:58
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Hirvinen[A] ndy80: man rename12:58
[A] ndy80something like: find /mp3/ -iname '*.MP3' | mv $112:58
Lunis[A] ndy80: a batch renamer might be a good start, there are a couple in the repos12:58
mzanfardinojrib: honestly, I thought I did just that.  I had jre 1.4.2 installed, but have since removed it (or so I though). ...12:58
Hirvinen[A] ndy80: Or use a graphical tool such as krename.12:58
jrib[A] ndy80: with the rename command, do you know regex?12:58
[A] ndy80jrib, very little...12:59
joeishdrako thats what the error says i typed it backwards12:59
mzanfardinojrib: I really don't have any freaking idea what I'm doing... how do I completely remove jre1.4.2?12:59
adrianAnybody know of a GUI for apache 212:59
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Drako60joeish, do you have libdvdnav installed from apt?12:59
d3Here's an odd one... Anyplace in the OS that tells me when I installed it?12:59
joeishDrako60, i will check12:59
anaanyone aware of a problem doing a cp from a nfs (as the client)?  My system keeps freezing (not even Ctl-Alt-F1) after transferring ~gig of data12:59
jribmzanfardino: ok, check for me if you have any packaged java installed already01:00
mzanfardinojrib:  dpkg -l | grep java ?01:00
ValMarkoI have flash installed but , when I want to watch some video from youtube, it asks for the latest flash, 7. It's the one I have. What should I do01:00
joeishDrako60, no it wasn't01:00
jrib[A] ndy80: rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' *     <-- try this, it won't do anything unless you remove the -n01:00
Drako60joeish, good, libdvdcss from apt?01:00
mzanfardinojrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37257/01:01
jrib[A] ndy80: maybe this is a little better:   rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' *.MP301:01
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[A] ndy80jrib, I've to substitute MP3 with mp3, from upper to lower01:02
jrib[A] ndy80: yes, that command should work, did you try it?01:02
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joeishDrako60, installed libdvdnav and i get the same error01:02
[A] ndy80jrib, 'cause of a iPod firmware bug... try to upload a .MP3 on an iPod nano 2nd generation, and it will crash :)01:02
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jribmzanfardino: ok, so we need to install that.  Remove the installation you have in /usr/local01:03
Drako60joeish, do you have libdvdcss installed from apt? and you don't want libdvdnav installed from apt it messes with mplayer for some reason01:03
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mzanfardinothe /usr/local/jre1.5.0_09?01:03
jribmzanfardino: yep01:03
joeishDrako60, libdvdnav was not originally installed, libdvdcss is installed01:03
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[A] ndy80jrib, is it possible to make it recursive?01:03
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jrib[A] ndy80: use find01:04
mzanfardinojrib: done01:04
Drako60joeish, whats the full command your using with mplayer?01:04
MystaMaxhello what does the "d" on the end of folder names mean inside the /etc/ folder???01:04
Intangirdirectory01:04
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Capslock118i deleted a rather large folder from off one of my HDDs, it doesnt show that it is there, yet the space is still taken up, why is this?01:04
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IntangirCapslock118: it probably put it in the trash01:04
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Intangirif you deleted it from inside nautilus it moves it to trash01:04
littleEdgyhello all01:04
jrib[A] ndy80: or zsh :)01:05
Drako60http://pastebin.ca/280555  <-- i need some help here my kernel wants to blow up on me01:05
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hexidigital_how can i not require sudo for wlassistant? chmod +x /usr/bin/wlassistant?01:05
Capslock118Intangir: trash can is empty01:05
joeishDrako60, in the gui i am rightclicking and selecting open....DVD01:05
Drako60joeish, do you have more then one drive?01:05
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mzanfardinojrib: ok, now that it's gone, what should I do?01:05
littleEdgyBesides newegg and tigerdirect where can I get comp hardware w/ good shipping01:05
joeishDrako60, yes01:05
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[A] ndy80jrib, I'm trying find /media/usbdisk/MP3/ -iname '*.MP3' | rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' * but it doesn't scan subfolders...01:06
Drako60joeish, open preferences and make sure the proper /dev line is in the dvd-device feild01:06
joeishDrako60, but the other one is completely unresponsive (i think it is the drive)01:06
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jribmzanfardino: what version of ubuntu?01:07
mzanfardinojrib 6.1001:07
jrib[A] ndy80: it should.  You need to get rid of -n or else it won't actually change the name01:07
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mzanfardinojrib: I've edited my /etc/apt/sources.list to include all sources...01:07
jrib[A] ndy80: oops, no that won't work.  use | xargs rename01:07
annyluxhello01:08
mzanfardinojrib: I ran apt-cache search sun-java5-plugin, but found nothing01:08
jribmzanfardino: ok, install sun-java5-plugin01:08
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Drako60joeish, try this command from terminal mplayer -vf lavcdeint -dvd-device /dev/cdrom0 dvd://1 (replace /dev/cdrom0 with the proper drive)01:08
jribmzanfardino: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please01:08
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jrib[A] ndy80: do any files have spaces?01:08
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[A] ndy80jrib, find  /media/usbdisk/MP3/ -iname '*.MP3' -r | xargs rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' *01:09
[A] ndy80?01:09
[A] ndy80still doesn't work...01:09
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jrib[A] ndy80: what does the -r do?  And you have to get rid of the -n!!01:09
mzanfardinojrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37259/01:09
FozzieG'evening all01:09
[A] ndy80(yes I know about the -n option... but only MP3 in the root are dispolayed01:09
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[A] ndy80jrib, sorry.... I made a mistake copy-pasting01:10
[A] ndy80I used:01:10
Fozziei need to talk to someone about ATI/AMD FGLRX troubleshooting.   Is anyone available?01:10
jrib[A] ndy80: find  /media/usbdisk/MP3/ -iname '*.MP3' -print0 | xargs -0 rename 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/'01:10
joeishDrako60, thanks a million....mplayer was pointing...well nothing (changed it to hdc and done!)01:10
[A] ndy80find /media/usbdisk/MP3/ -iname '*.MP3' | xargs rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' *01:10
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mzanfardinojrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37260/01:10
ibb-nivida configuration problems, i got a nvidia 7950gt that wont get identified01:11
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jribmzanfardino: you don't have edgy multiverse01:11
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jribonly backprots01:11
Capslock118so what could be the reason why the folder I deleted didnt full delete itself?01:11
Capslock118it didnt move to the trash, and the folder still exists01:11
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FozzieFGLRX help needed01:11
Capslock118could it be a shortcut folder and I didnt realize it?01:11
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ValMarkoI dont understan. Firefox doesnt recognize flash plugin but mozilla can. In other words, I can watch videos from youtube using but nothing happens when I use Firefox. What the solution?01:11
Capslock118im trying to move everything from NTFS to ext301:11
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kitcheCapslock118: or you just did rm command and the folder wasn't empty01:12
mzanfardinojrib: ok, what do I need to do to add multiverse?  I thought I have multiverse listed, but maybe I'm not seeing the right thing01:12
Capslock118kitche: i just hit the del key, the folder disappeared but there was about id say around 30gb of data in there01:12
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FozzieAnyone available to help me?01:13
kudzubaneValMarko: download the flash plugin manually, and install manually, this worked for me01:13
jribmzanfardino: add " multiverse" to the end of every line with "universe" in it but no "multiverse".  Lines 16, 17, 31 and 3201:13
SilentDisvalmarko:  where did you put the .so file you downloaded?01:14
[A] ndy80jrib, it worked partially, I get some errors like: Can't rename /media/usbdisk/MP3/FILOMENA.MP3 /media/usbdisk/MP3/FILOMENA.mp3: File exists01:14
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kudzubaneValMarko: plugin package didn't work for me either under firefox01:14
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Fozziehelp, please?01:14
ValMarkoI used easyubuntu01:14
SilentDis!ask | Fozzie01:14
ubotuFozzie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:14
BlackHawkgn801:14
jrib[A] ndy80: self explanatory though, right?01:14
FozzieUbotu, i did, earlier01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i did, earlier - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
SilentDisfozzie:  I just got here.  can't help if I don't know what's going on :)01:15
jribFozzie: don't ask for help, just repeat your question once in a while01:15
[A] ndy80jrib, not exactly..... because FILOMENA.MP3 is not FILOMENA.mp3 (should be case sensitive...)01:15
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n2diyValMarko, back up your stuff, last time I tried getting the plugins, I had a hard crash.01:15
MaskSomeone can tell me how where is disk manager. My ubuntu version is 6.10 but it isnt in System > Administrative01:15
joeishi am trying to add a CD-RW/DVD+-R to fstab and want to know what type/options/etc i should use01:15
mzanfardinojrib: ok, I've added "multiverse" to all lines with universe.  However, when I run apt-cache search sun-java5-plugin I still get zip01:15
Fozziei'm having problems with radeon 900m.  I've followed instructions in faqs to install fglrx and it still isnt' working01:16
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jribmzanfardino: sudo apt-get update01:16
Fozziein troubleshooting, it said to come here and ask for more help01:16
SilentDisfozzie:  do you get errors when you select that driver from x setup?01:16
jrib[A] ndy80: and both files don't exist? FILOMENA.MP3 and FILOMENA.mp3?01:16
kudzubaneFozzie: dedicated video mem, or shared?01:16
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[A] ndy80jrib, only FILOMENA.MP3 exist01:17
MaskSomeone can tell me how where is disk manager. My ubuntu version is 6.10 but it isnt in System > Administrative. Who know pvt-please!!!01:17
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mzanfardinojrib: son of a gun...01:17
n2diyAre there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?01:17
Fozziesilentdis, sorry, x setup?01:17
kudzubane!repeat01:17
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:17
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jrib[A] ndy80: hmm weird01:17
Peloblazor are you around ?01:17
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mzanfardinojrib: so, before I go any further, I suppose I should install the sun-java5-plugin.  what about jre1.5.x?01:17
Fozziefraid to say i'm pretty new to linux and ubuntu.  I love it so far, i'm just trying to fine tune my laptop now01:17
ValMarkoWhere do I get the sources for the manual installation of adobe flash player?01:17
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jribmzanfardino: it will get installed automatically01:18
TCrafter!patience01:18
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:18
SilentDisFozzie:  after you install the new vid driver, it's usually best to go back through your x configuration to make sure it's setup right.  an easy way to do this is to hit a console, and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:18
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jribValMarko: adobe's site01:18
Capslock118ok, tried deleting something else on another drive, but it still doesnt show that I lost anything01:18
mzanfardinojrib: and my references to jre1.4.2?  will they go away?01:18
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joeishi am trying to add a CD-RW/DVD+-R to fstab and want to know what type/options/etc i should use01:18
jribmzanfardino: no, you'll have to take care of that01:18
kudzubaneValMarko: go to the flash page (http://www.flash.com) and click on any of the get flash player buttons01:19
ValMarkothanks01:19
Capslock118Im thinking, I moved files from NTFS to ext3. Could that be why it isnt showing that is being deleted, perhaps everything on the drive is just a shortcut?01:19
mzanfardinojrib: should I just remove the directories that make reference to jre1.4.2?01:19
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FozzieSilentDis, ok, i'm in there, what do you need to know?  Fglrx is in the list of drivers01:19
jribmzanfardino: yeah, I guess.  Do a 'dpkg -S /whatever/file' first.  That will tell you if it belongs to any package01:19
kudzubaneCapslock118:  good chance everything is copied instead01:19
SilentDisjoeish:  mine happens to be on hdc, so ymmv.  a basic one would be /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 001:20
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joeishSilentDis, ok thats what i had....still not working01:20
SilentDisfozzie:  go through that setup, step by step.  choose the fglrx driver, and take it slow, read each screen :)01:20
jrib[A] ndy80: what if you  issue the rename command directly on the file?01:21
[A] ndy80jrib, I've to rename fist to .MP3_ then to .mp301:21
FozzieSilentDis No problem.  Do i need to be exact on things like "Identifier for your Video Card"? or will this just be reference?01:21
mzanfardinojrib:  I have two suspect directories in /usr/lib/jvm: java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-4.1.4.2.0 and java-gcj...01:21
[A] ndy80it's fat32 the usbdisk :(01:21
jribmzanfardino: leave those01:22
mzanfardinook01:22
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mzanfardinojrib: I'm goin got try this now.  Thank you very much for your help and patients!01:22
jribmzanfardino: wait01:22
Capslock118kudzubane: if that is the case then why am i not seeing these files deleted right away?01:22
mzanfardinook01:22
SilentDisfozzie:  you have to be exact... but having said that, the tool is always there if you fsck things up, and you can go through it again without reprocussion.  (worst that'll happen is you'll end up sitting at a prompt).01:22
mzanfardinojrib: ok01:22
MaskSomeone can tell me how where is disk manager. My ubuntu version is 6.10 but it isnt in System > Administrative. Who know PVT-plz01:22
ValMarkoWell, I followed all the instructions from Adobe official site. Nothing ! I cant watch videos from youtube. Nevertheless , using mozilla... I can01:22
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SilentDisfozzie:  also, it backs up your old x.conf, so you can just rename the old one into place, should the need arise01:23
jribmzanfardino: make sure you get rid of that java link that _doesn't_ point to alternatives.  Then, do this command: sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so01:23
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kudzubaneCapslock118: if NTFS is mounted read-only, nothing gets deleted01:23
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jribValMarko: where did you install it to01:23
FozzieSilentDis Awesome, i'll work through and get back to you soon.  Many many thanks01:23
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kudzubaneCapslock118:  (i'm assuming you are moving things from ntfs to ext3)01:23
Blah93Does anybody know a way to listen to embed mp3s in firefox?01:23
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SilentDisfozzie:  sorry, old convention.  the file name it changes is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it makes it's backups right there as well01:23
joeishi am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it01:24
ValMarkoGood question. a plce where I have permissions. Home.. something01:24
Capslock118kudzubane: yes i am01:24
jribValMarko: you need to be more specific for me to help you :)01:24
Capslock118kudzubane: but im referring to deleting files in my ext3 fs01:24
mzanfardinojrib: like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37262/01:25
MaskSomeone can tell me how where is disk manager. My ubuntu version is 6.10 but it isnt in System > Administrative. Who know PVT-plz01:25
Blah93Are there any drivers out there for edgy embed mp3s?01:25
Blah93in firefox01:25
jribmzanfardino: right, you want 301:25
jribmzanfardino: close all firefox and start it again now to test01:26
mzanfardinojrib: ok, I've removed the symbolic link and run the update-alternative.  I suppose I can try it now?01:26
SilentDisBlah93:  try this, open synaptic (or whatever package manager you prefer) and type in firefox plugin.  check out the descriptions :)01:26
mzanfardinojrib: thank you again!01:26
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RedKriegI'm trying to get my USB mic to work in alsa using http://crache.net/blog/2006/05/06/logitech-usb-desktop-microphone-in-linux/ but I need my .asoundrc file to use spdif .asoundrc here: http://pastebin.redkrieg.com/?page=view&id=1166228337 anyone know what I can do to use the usb for input and spdif for output?01:26
kudzubaneCapslock118: did you check the permissions on the files?01:26
joeishi am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it01:26
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ValMarkoBefore that I installed flash using easyubuntu. Is there a conflict ? What should I do to make Firefox recognise the plugin?01:27
SilentDisi shall be right back.  kde is still a bit jolting to me, and I don't quite know where everything is yet.  gonna hop back to gnome so I can better help people :)01:27
Capslock118kudzubane: when I mounted the drive, i gave myself permissions01:27
Blah93SilentDis: Will do01:27
toM|vendettAHi, I am trying to install my Quickcam for Notebook pro, the linux-uvc drivers support it, and i dont know how to install them (http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/)01:27
toM|vendettAcan someone hel?01:28
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toM|vendettAhelp01:28
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mohithey all01:28
kudzubaneCapslock118: i mean, the actual file permission (it is possible to mount and have rw perm, but file still has read only)01:28
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joeishi am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it01:29
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toM|vendettAHi, I am trying to install my Quickcam for Notebook pro, the linux-uvc drivers support it, and i dont know how to install them (http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/)01:29
flasher222how can i make one track/voice in a midi file louder than the others?01:29
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flasher222(using timidity, for example)01:29
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Capslock118kudzubane: it shows owner (me) has rw, while group and others have read only01:30
MystaMaxwhen i run man samba from the CLI, where is it pulling that data from?01:30
Capslock118kudzubane: although the group says my name01:30
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kudzubaneCapslock118: and does it show files as links to original?01:30
toM|vendettAHi, I am trying to install my Quickcam for Notebook pro, the linux-uvc drivers support it, and i dont know how to install from http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/01:30
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Capslock118kudzubane: how do i see that?01:31
ValMarkoI'm using Beryl but I heard that there is also compiz. What's the better one?01:31
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Uboon2"beryl rocks"01:31
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SilentDisvalmarko:  the term 'better' has many meanings...  neither is 'better', one is simply better suited to someone else than the other.  (i, personally, prefer beryl) :)01:32
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Blah93SilentDis: it still will not play mp3 objects in firefox01:32
kitcheMystaMax:  /usr/share/man is one spot01:32
ValMarkoI understand. Dependsof what you want01:32
piratepenguinwould Ubuntu run in 5Gb of space?01:32
Blah93SilentDis: I have the mozilla-plugin-vlc01:32
jamesbrosepiratepenguin, yes it would01:33
FozzieSilentDis, I've worked through that.  Was very interesting, i hope that i answered it all correctly.  What should be the next step?01:33
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MystaMaxthanks kitche01:33
jamesbrosepiratepenguin, the minimum is really 1 gig01:33
SilentDisfozzie:  time to restart gdm and cross your fingers lol01:33
piratepenguinjamesbrose, wow, thanks01:33
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kitcheValMarko: Compiz is done by Novell and is not really complete while beryl used to be compiz-quinnstorm and is more complete01:33
FozzieSilentDis hehe, thanks.  I'll hopefully be right back01:33
joeishi am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it01:33
SilentDisagain, the config file we're working on is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  there's backups there as well.01:33
jamesbroseyour welcome, now dig this piratepenguin, http://digg.com/design/Photoshop_CS3 :P01:33
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FozzieOk01:34
SilentDisfozzie:  to restart gdm, just hit <ctrl>-<alt>-<backspace> (no need to reboot01:34
mzanfardinojrib: I'm sorry to keep at this, but I think I'm some kind of idiot.  After everything we've done java still does not work with Firefox 2.0.01:34
PhibreOptixHey guys, I'm trying to get my friend to switch to ubuntu, but when he tries to burn the ISO to cd, it tells him that the CD can't fit that much data01:34
kitchePhibreOptix: you have to finish the cd it will fit but you have to close it after burning01:34
TCrafterIs he using a 700MB/80min CD?01:35
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jribmzanfardino: pastebin what 'ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/' looks like now.  pastebin the page 'about:plugins' displays in firefox too01:35
PhibreOptixTCrafter: Yes01:35
PhibreOptixkitche: So, he has to close the open sessions on it?01:35
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TCrafterWhat program is he using?01:35
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PhibreOptixTCrafter: Nero 701:35
SilentDisblah93:  what site are you trying to stream mp3s over?  they might have some sort of weird 'tool' that's necessary to do it.  (this is not something i've done before, just trying to offer suggestions, btw)01:35
FozzieSilentDis Didn't know that! handy01:35
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SilentDisfozzie:  nt :)01:36
FozzieSilentDis ok, its apparent i still have video, whats the best way to check to see if its working?01:36
TCrafterIs he using the "Burn Image" from the File menu, rather than dropping the ISO onto the session?01:36
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johny5Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an older machine that does not support boot from cd-rom, can anyone point me to a good howto for making a boot floppy for this purpose?01:36
kitchePhibreOptix: yes it should say something like finish when that screen pops up there should be cancel and yes just click ont he one that's on the left side of that window that pops up01:36
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mborghey i'm a noob and i'm having some totem issues. .wmv, .avi, .mov video formats do not work at all in totem01:36
piratepenguinjamesbrose, heh, I think the gimp will do for my crop&resize jobs tho XD01:36
Blah93SilentDis: Whenever I go to nedm.ytmnd.com I don't hear any background music01:36
Capslock118kudzubane: someone else I was talking to claims that linux doesnt tell you what is deleted, instead it will just write over the information, what doesnt make sense to me is why wouldnt the system tell you how much space the stuff you didnt delete uses up?01:36
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Stormx2Yo. Is linux-kernel-headers the new linux-headers-1.3.3.7?01:36
evilgoldHey, this is kinda odd, but my wireless card isnt picking up networks even though it seems to be working fine otherwise01:36
PhibreOptixTCrafter: Yes he is burning it as an image01:36
jamesbrosepiratepenguin, still!01:36
SilentDisfozzie:  glxinfo | grep direct01:36
mzanfardinojrib: ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37264/01:37
carutsuscuse me01:37
Stormx2!+linux-headers-2.6.17-10-38601:37
ubotulinux-headers-2.6.17-10-386: Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on i386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-10.34 (edgy), package size 898 kB, installed size 24344 kB01:37
piratepenguinjamesbrose, oh.. I don't digg, actually, lol01:37
Stormx2bleh.01:37
Stormx2I need that deb.01:37
globeis there a way to tell which video driver I should be using?01:37
jamesbrosepiratepenguin, :O why nott?!01:37
TCrafter@PhibreOptix - OK, listen to kitche - I don't have Nero on the machine I'm working from :(01:37
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piratepenguinjamesbrose, I spend enough time on forums :(01:37
PhibreOptixOk guys, thanks for the help01:37
PhibreOptix;)01:37
mzanfardinojrib: about:plugins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37266/01:38
jamesbrosepiratepenguin, yeah but if you dig it, you will get a cookie :P01:38
carutsuhello, here's the story i downloaded ubuntu (it's in spanish), then i downloaded Kubuntu (KDE i mean) but it's in english, is there a way to change it? i haven't found it01:38
mborgis there a reason why totem shouldn't be able to play wmv, mov, or avi video formats?01:38
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Stormx2Where can I get debs from? Im looking through security.ubuntu.com..... my internet is buggered in ubuntu and I'm in windows.01:38
FozzieSilentDis Hmm, i don't think it is.  Xlib: Ext "Xfree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:38
Fozziedirect rendering: No01:38
FozzieOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect01:38
kitcheStormx2: packages.ubuntu.com01:38
l3mrglobe: well, that depends on your graphics card...01:38
Blah93mborg: You need the codecs to play them01:38
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mborgdo you know of a good package?01:38
jribmzanfardino: you have two of them.  I don't know if this would cause it to not work, but we should fix that.  I don't think firefox-javaplugin.so belongs.  use dpkg -S and see01:38
Stormx2Thanks01:38
globel3mr its an intel integrated in a gateway mobo01:38
Blah93mborg: no, I have just recently switched to ubuntu from fc01:38
carutsuhello?01:38
Blah93hai01:39
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l3mrglobe: well then the default driver ubuntu choses should be fine...01:39
mborgdoes anyone know of a decent plugin package for totem?01:39
agohi all01:39
SilentDisfozzie:  apparently not lol01:39
jribmzanfardino: after you take care of that, what does this return:  readlink -f $(which firefox)01:39
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FozzieSilentDis Any ideas?01:39
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kudzubaneCapslock118: if you delete something in linux and then ls it, it should be gone01:39
l3mrglobe: do you experience some problems, or why do you ask? :)01:39
SilentDisfozzie:  you went through, step by step, slowly, the instructions in the wiki?01:39
l3mrmborg: just use mplayer :)01:39
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FozzieSilentDis yep, double checked as i went01:40
globel3mr: should....isnt.  I had 6.06 on it and it did everything right, reformat and put 6.10 on there and I get xserver failures01:40
Blah93im curious; is mplayer better than vlc?01:40
joeishi am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it01:40
mzanfardinojrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37267/01:40
l3mrglobe: did you upgrade using update-manager? or apt-get?01:40
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SilentDisfozzie:  because i'm apt to suggest going through them again, just to be sure.  it's a pain, i know, but i had a similar problem first time I was getting into ubuntu... i missed the restricted modules :P01:40
kitcheBlah93: it's more of an opinion whihc one is better01:40
mzanfardinojrib: does this mean it should be removed/01:40
Capslock118kudzubane: so would you say it is safe to delete my ntfs tables since everything seems to be transferred over?01:40
kudzubaneCapslock118: whether it is done right as you execute is another matter, but generally it takes a very short amount of time for the actual delete to happen, and certainly, the system knows the files are slated for deletion and will show you proper disk space usage01:40
globel3mr: neither.  I reformatted and put in the install cd.01:40
jribmzanfardino: dpkg -S  capital and give the full path01:40
FozzieSilentDis Missed the Restricted Modules?  Adding them to the sources?01:41
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mzanfardinojrib: dpkg: *firefox-javaplugin.so* not found.01:41
Blah93kitche: what I meant was does one have more coecs than the other?01:41
SilentDisfozzie:  installing them properly :P01:41
kudzubaneCapslock118: i would find out why you can't delete the files you transfered first01:41
l3mrglobe: hmm, dunno. i did have some x problems too, at first, but running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg helped...01:41
jribmzanfardino: ok, delete it.  That's the one you put back probably01:41
kitcheBlah93: they use the same codec packages01:41
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Blah93kitche: is it just the whole "features" aspecct of it that varies?01:41
globel3mr: I've had this problem in the past...and got it working on a gateway laptop but this time i am stuck01:42
l3mrglobe: paste the error message in the pastebing01:42
agohalf partition has vanished!!! cfdisk showing 18GB and df 9GB01:42
mzanfardinojrib: readlink -f $(which firefox)    /opt/firefox/firefox01:42
l3mrpastebin01:42
SilentDis!ati | Fozzie-just to be sure01:42
ubotuFozzie-just to be sure: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:42
jribmzanfardino: does that tell you anything?01:42
kitcheBlah93: well vlc is more idiot proof I put it that way01:42
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mzanfardinojrib: I'm in the wrong directory?!?01:42
globel3mr: um.  how can I do such things w/o x?01:42
Blah93kitche: then I gotta get mplayer :D01:42
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pepikcan anyone recommend LPI vs. CompTIA? I don't actually need the qualification for anything, just considering it as a more structured way to learn Linux for personal use.01:43
jribmzanfardino: yeah, you are using your own private installation of firefox.  Edgy has firefox 2.0 so I would just get rid of your private one.  Do this to test things out:  close firefox, then run '/usr/bin/firefox' in a terminal01:43
niuwhy i cant use the usplash?01:43
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l3mrglobe: hmm ok :) ... what does the error say?01:43
mzanfardinojrib: I have to exit IRC.  one sec01:43
cmwebljl, im sorry but could you walk me throught the process of getting php5 intergrated with apache 2, (please dont yell at me...)01:44
SilentDis!lamp | cmweb01:44
ubotucmweb: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:44
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cmwebljl, you told me before01:44
Capslock118kudbunzu: im not sure, perhaps I did not catch it at first. I just deleted 7 gb of data from the ext3 drive and it did register in the mount properties: I am curious as to why it doesnt head to the trash can first01:44
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cmwebi have lamp for the third time today01:44
agois there any other way to hide files other than .name in linux?01:45
cmwebthe process didnt work01:45
SilentDiscmweb:  sorry, just noticed your chatter, was simply trying to help :)01:45
kitcheCapslock118: it won't unless you use a gui since the trash can is only used by the desktop environments01:45
cmwebyep01:45
SilentDisago:  why hide a file?  simply restrict access from others to it01:45
Stormx2how do I get the USB ID of a device?01:45
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Capslock118kitche: ive been in gnome this whole time01:45
Stormx2like01:45
Stormx26891:a72701:45
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agoSilentDis, half or my partition seems to have vanished01:45
flasher222how can i convert a midi file to mp3?01:45
daniminaswhy ubuntu dapper dont have on the cd a complier, cvs.. all this basic.... i alway need to donwload :-\01:45
SilentDisago:  eh?01:46
kitcheCapslock118: but were you deleting files though a terminal?01:46
Capslock118kitche: no, through nautilus01:46
SilentDisdaniminas:  the DVD does i believe...01:46
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agoSilentDis, cfdisk shows 18GB but df only 9GB (I am talking total space)01:46
jribdaniminas: it has a compiler, not sure about cvs.  Install build-essential from the cd to get basic development stuff01:46
mzanfardinojrib: well, it made no difference to run /usr/bin/firefox either as root or not. how the hell did I manage to install my own copy and how do I remove the bloody thing?  Not that it matters... java still isn't working.01:46
pepik!wireless01:46
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:46
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kitchedaniminas: the build-esstenial package is on the cd01:47
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SilentDisago:  odd.  what about fdisk -l01:47
daniminasok..... build-essential...01:47
Capslock118brb01:47
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kudzubanekitche: confused me seeing you here and flipping back and seeing you elsewhere01:47
niui'm using the edgy but i my sreen can't init usplash!01:47
rrittenhouseI installed Ubuntu (edgy) command line only. Now I want to have X start up at boot without any login manager (is this possible?)01:47
mzanfardinojrib: sorry, bounced myself.01:47
jribdaniminas: is this computer without internet access?01:47
agoSilentDis, /dev/sda4             245        2676    19535040   83  Linux01:47
Stormx2Guys... how do I get a USB ID? Like 6891:a72701:47
jribmzanfardino: ok, don't run firefox as root.  pastebin the about:plugins from the new firefox01:48
daniminasok, so.. i dont know why apt-get install gcc dont work...01:48
agoSilentDis, df: /dev/sda4             245        2676    19535040   83  Linux01:48
kitchekudzubane: lol01:48
HoORnethi! , please can you help me ? i want mount my partition vfat but i can't write on... what is the good command please for have acces write/read ?01:48
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jrib!vfat | HoORnet01:48
ubotuHoORnet: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:48
SilentDisago:  aargh, i can't remember block config, so that's not helping :P01:48
Stormx2Meeh01:48
esaymhate to ask a question here but i cant seem to get any res higher then 1280x102401:48
h0ndaracer2helo everyone01:48
drkmin list view of a directory in gnome is alternates 2 colours.. is there a way I can change these colours?01:48
jrib!fixres | esaym01:48
ubotuesaym: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:48
HoORnetthanks01:48
HoORnet!vfat01:48
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:48
Stormx2Okay. Can ubotu tell me how to get a USB ID? xD01:49
jribdrkm: maybe with a theme, not sure01:49
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globel3mr: hmm...I think that I am getting it.  the error message is about 12 miles long.  thanks for your help though01:49
esaymi will read that but im sure i have already done it... one sec01:49
h0ndaracer2how do i delete a file it wont let me move it to the trash section01:49
gnomefreakdrkm: you mean when you use ls?01:49
Capslock118back01:49
SilentDisesaym:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, when asked what res are options, mark off what you want.  make sure you choose wisely what higher res you wanna use :)01:49
agoSilentDis, basically I have 18GB on fdisk and 9 on df, I am concerned someone else has been using my HD, I am trying a way to find out01:49
jribh0ndaracer2: what file01:49
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rrittenhouseI installed Ubuntu (edgy) command line only. Now I want to have X start up at boot without any login manager (is this possible?)01:49
esaymyea i did that01:50
h0ndaracer2like somtin i downloaded for my wireless car a folder with stuff in it i dont need01:50
h0ndaracer2it wont let me delete it01:50
SilentDisago:  ubuntu or kubuntu?01:50
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drkmgnomefreak: obviously a typo which was meant to be 'it'01:50
esaymit still uses 1280x102401:50
mzanfardinojrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37269/01:50
esaymi want 1400x105001:50
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daniminasjrib: not, but not dsl..01:50
h0ndaracer2i use ubuntu01:50
ValMarkoSometimes I see files like , for example: something.sh . What is the meaning of sh attribute?01:50
jribesaym: you selected that when you ran dpkg-reconfigure?01:50
agoSilentDis, ubuntu01:50
kitcheh0ndaracer2: try sudo rm <file> in a console01:50
esaymyea01:50
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esaymits in the xorg.conf01:50
PhibreOptixh0ndaracer2: sudo rmdir /path/to/folder01:50
h0ndaracer2ok01:50
jribesaym: did you chec system > preferences > screen resolution now?01:50
SilentDisvalmarko:  usually, .sh means a shell script or the like01:50
esaymusing kubuntu01:50
mzanfardinojrib: should I just rm -r /opt/firefox?01:50
gnomefreakdrkm: you mean when using ls you see files in 2 colors? or in GUI?01:51
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esaymbut the max it shows is 1280x102401:51
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drkmgnomefreak: in gnome nautilus gui01:51
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gnomefreakdrkm: that would be a theme01:51
jribmzanfardino: ha, no I think i know what happened.  You have /usr/bin/firefox diverted so it points to that one :)01:51
mzanfardinojrib: let me check01:51
Capslock118why wouldnt something I delete in a mounted drive not end up in the trash can?01:51
mrvertigoblaksmith are you there01:51
drkmgnomefreak: ahh ok thanks.. I think I've found it01:52
jribmzanfardino: close firefox again and run: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox01:52
drkmjrib: thanks too01:52
gnomefreakdrkm: try a new icon theme (cant remember if icon or main theme)01:52
mzanfardinojrib: yep!01:52
mzanfardinojrib: brb01:52
gnomefreakjrib: you get the black window taken care of?01:52
SilentDisago:  i'm not adept enough at command line to check these things yet... have you checked out the disk usage in Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer01:52
gnomefreakSilentDis: dh i think will do that on CLI01:52
mrvertigoblaksmith?01:53
jribgnomefreak: no, I just live with it01:53
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gnomefreakor not01:53
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kutohi01:53
kutowhat is inputrc01:53
gnomefreakjrib: oh ok sorry01:53
Capslock118so i deleted an entire ext3 drive, it was my converted ntfs files01:53
h0ndaracer2how do i setup sudo rmdir then its  on my desktop lol01:53
ValMarkoSilentdis, is it an extension only used in ubuntu? Do other linux systems also use it?01:53
jribgnomefreak: it seems to be a bug in the nvidia driver01:53
gnomefreakjrib: correct01:53
Capslock118nothing ended up in the trash, now I am trying to put stuff back on it to test it out, and there is only 9gb left, even though i deleted all my stff in the folder (40gb)01:54
LjLcmweb: try "sudo a2enmod php5" or failing that "sudo a2enmod php" (i know, bit different from what i told you the other time, but i only learned about this recently)01:54
zylcheLike the bug where I can't run Savage with xchat or firefox open or it'll crash randomly? :P01:54
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SilentDisvalmarko:  i've seen it elsewhere.  extensions don't carry quite the same 'meaning' under linux as they do under windows, mind you.01:54
agoSilentDis, any "high level" tool I have tried reports 9GB in all, but partitioning tools (that look at the device) tell me it should be 18GB.01:54
SilentDisago:  did you partition off a seperate partition?01:54
kitchekuto: it deals with keyboard mapping for specific situations and is used by Readline which is used by bash and most other shells01:54
jribh0ndaracer2: what do you mean?01:54
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mzanfardinojrib: well, what do you know? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37270/01:54
cmwebljl, This module is already enabled!01:54
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gnomefreakSilentDis: sorry its df01:55
h0ndaracer2like how do i set the directory to my desktop sry im a noob with this linux stuff01:55
kutokitche: does it deal with keyboard mapping with bash terminal?01:55
jribmzanfardino: ah, is java working now?01:55
ValMarko:) I just installed ubuntu. I've been using windows since 1991 :)01:55
kitchekuto: Readline uses it which deals with bash01:55
cmwebljl, would a restart help?01:55
gnomefreakh0ndaracer2: drag and drop it? or cp01:55
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h0ndaracer2whats cp01:55
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gnomefreakh0ndaracer2: copy01:55
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LjLcmweb: a restart of apache, perhaps. a restart of the system, i doubt it01:55
kutokitchie: if so how do i change inputrc to make my delete key to delete characters in bash terminal and not type ~01:55
kutodo you know kitche01:56
h0ndaracer2it kepts sayign access denied tho01:56
mzanfardinojrib: yes!  Bah!  Ok, now, how do I fix this (get rid of "personal" firefox and point firefox to the correct path (/usr/lib/firefox/firefox)01:56
jribh0ndaracer2: join #ubuntu-classroom and I'll walk you through it01:56
FozzieSilentDis - glxinfo reports "Direct Rendering: Yes" now, and nothing else.  Is this right?01:56
jribmzanfardino: dpkg-divert --list '*firefox*'   turn anything up?01:56
esaymaticonfig --resolution=Screen1,1400x1050 gives:01:56
h0ndaracer2same server01:56
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esaymError: Section # expected01:56
esaymSegmentation fault01:56
jribh0ndaracer2: yep01:56
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kutokitche still there?01:56
h0ndaracer2ok01:56
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cmweb"apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName" which I'm using local host it shouldn't matter should it?01:57
ubuni'm surprised nautilus doesn't tell you simple memory things like when you're replacing a file how large the file you are replacing is vs the old one and the trash can to show how much you're about to delete. would be easy to code in01:57
h0ndaracer2im in it01:57
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kitchekuto: you can do info bash and see since it should be in the info page for bash01:57
mzanfardinojrib: mark@mark-desktop:~$ dpkg-divert --list '*firefox*'01:57
LjLcmweb: i think it's just a warning that should really affect things right now01:57
mzanfardinolocal diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu01:57
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mzanfardinolocal diversion of /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox to /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox.ubuntu01:57
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SilentDisfozzie:  yep :)01:57
aeromixhi..could you please help me? I'm trying to run firestarter as a firewall..but it every time starts with this error: Failed to start the firewall An unknown error occured Please check your network device settings and make sure your internet connection is active01:58
mzanfardinojrib: so, would I just relink /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/lib/firefox/firefox?  then rm -r /opt/firefox?01:58
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Fozziesilentdis, Interesting.  I guess i was expecting a fanfare and firework display :)01:58
cmwebljl, i made a file called phpinfo.php with the phpinfo script it works but the others dont, maby permissions?01:58
jribmzanfardino: follow the removal instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion  (you only need to restore symbolic links, don't worry about profile).  And yes you can delete /opt/firefox01:58
SilentDisfozzie:  if you wanna check your framerates, you can do a quick glxgears -printfps01:58
aeromix!firestarter01:58
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).01:58
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SilentDisfozzie:  you should expect numbers in the 1000s01:59
jribmzanfardino: direct link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion#head-51054869b8a40ea50859b0163c806e76f882499c01:59
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cmwebljl, nope nvm their all 77701:59
The_Huntersudo aptitude install linux-generic01:59
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The_HunterThe following packages have been automatically kept back:02:00
The_Hunter  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic02:00
The_Hunter  linux-restricted-modules-common02:00
n2diyAre there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?02:00
SilentDisfozzie:  as for the fireworks display, that would be beryl's job ;)02:00
The_HunterHow can I fix that?02:00
isedehive, i am getting this message from adept "dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0", what do i do wrong?02:00
LjLcmweb: what happens anyway when you try to access the pages?02:00
FozzieSilentDis, :) yeah, i've heard good things about Beryl.  As for the fps, i'm getting low 800's02:00
cmwebljl, it wants me to download the file as a .PHTML same as before02:00
SilentDisfozzie:  hmm...  it's running though?02:01
LjLcmweb: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ | grep php02:01
SilentDisfozzie:  what vid card again?  how much ram on it?02:01
Fozziesilentdis, yes, lovely tri colored gears02:01
LjLcmweb: does that mention *both* php.conf and php.load?02:01
mzanfardinojrib: ok, one more try. brb02:01
agoSilentDis, to be honest I do not remember it was an old HD02:01
Drako60http://pastebin.ca/280562  http://pastebin.ca/280571   http://pastebin.ca/280573   <-- would anyone care to look at that and help me out a bit02:01
cmwebljl,  yes both of php502:01
Fozziesilent radeon 900m, not sure on memory, but i'm guessing its not much02:01
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SilentDisago:  i'd personally take a look with gparted (sudo apt-get install gparted), and see what the drive has.  I'm a rather visual person though ;)02:02
jribcmweb: I *think* it won't be setup to use php with .phtml files, see if it works if you rename it to .php.  Or is it already named that?02:02
mzanfardinojrib: you sir (madam?) are a genius!  Thank you!!!02:02
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LjLcmweb: libapache2-mod-php5 is installed? (apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-php5)02:02
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LjLmzanfardino: it's a bot. colors don't lie02:03
cmwebljl:02:03
DARKGuyhey, quick question: after installing samba, what was the command to make smbmount useable by all users or something like that?02:03
cmweblibapache2-mod-php5:02:03
cmweb  Installed: 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.402:03
cmweb  Candidate: 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.402:03
aeromixanyone here who would help me with firestarter???02:03
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kitcheaeromix: what wrong with firestarter?02:03
cmwebljl, in simple terms yes02:03
kutohow do i clear my terminal so it clears everything... so that my terminal looks like a new terminal without any previous inputs?02:03
jrib!anyone | aeromix02:03
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SilentDisDARKGuy:  you can specify a mount point under /etc/fstab, then all users can mount it... if that's what you're referring to02:03
ubotuaeromix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?02:03
kitchekuto: reset02:03
LjLcmweb: what about the phtml thing?02:03
kutokitche: thanks02:04
aeromixkitche: every time I start it, I get "unknown error" bla bla...02:04
cmwebits still doing it, haunting me02:04
DARKGuySilentDis: Uh, nope, and I couldn't understand that either x_x I mean it was something with chown or set the userID or something like that oO02:04
cmwebljl, its still doing it, haunting me02:04
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aeromixFailed to start the firewall. An unknown error occured...02:04
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kutokitche: the info bash doesnt have stuff that talks about how to change inputrc to make delete key to delete characters in my terminal02:04
carutsuhello, here's the story i downloaded ubuntu (it's in spanish), then i downloaded Kubuntu (KDE i mean) but it's in english, is there a way to change it? i haven't found it02:04
LjLcmweb: no, i mean, what jrib asked02:04
aeromixPlease check your network device settings...etc02:04
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drkmhow do I uncompress a .bz2 in terminal?02:04
SilentDisDARKGuy:  when I want users to be able to mount partitions, i drop a single line into the /etc/fstab, and they can mount/unmount it at will.02:04
aeromixkitche: any clue?02:04
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LjLUbotu, tell drkm about bz2 | drkm, see the private message from Ubotu02:05
jribdrkm: bunzip2 file.bz202:05
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DARKGuySilentDis: but this is samba, you know, network filesystems :/02:05
kitcheaeromix: not really the onyl thing I am thinking of is that iptables is not started02:05
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cmwebmy bad jrib sorry, yes they are already .php02:05
SilentDisDARKGuy:  you can do it with samba filesystems, once samba is installed :)02:05
jribcmweb: did you restart apache?02:05
drkmLjL, jrib thanks02:05
aeromixkitche: how do I start it?02:05
DARKGuySilentDis: Oh cool, didn't know that, yay for flexibility :D02:05
cmwebyes twice now02:05
cmwebljl, yes twice now02:05
con-mandoes anyone know why if Im not running xgl, my movies look like film negatives from cameras02:06
DARKGuySilentDis: thanks for the tip :P02:06
SilentDisDARKGuy:  do you want it 'always' mounted, or a choice by the user?02:06
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FozzieSilentDis, i had bad info, it is ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M IGP, 32mb ddr02:06
GaiaX11In windows we have scanip to get ip and mac address from any other computer. Is there a similar program in Ubuntu?02:06
jribcmweb: do you have apache installed as well as apache2?02:06
kitcheaeromix: well it should autostart when ubuntu is started02:06
Fozziesilentdis, according to hp site02:06
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aeromixGaiaX11: nmap x.x.x.0-X02:06
SilentDisfozzie:  yikes.  then, yes, i'm surpprised you're pulling 800fps out of glxgears lol02:06
cmwebjrib, no i only did apache 2 *this time*02:06
con-mananyone?02:06
un_operateur1gaia, arp maybe02:06
carutsuanyone who knows?02:07
DARKGuySilentDis: as a choice would be good, I'm using fluxbox and LinNeighborhood, I just don't want to run into problems when I try to mount a shared folder in an XP machine with stuff saying "smbmount must be setuid root" and stuff like that02:07
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cmwebjrib, it wouldent matter any way i only loaded a apache 2 command02:07
FozzieSilentDis Surprised good? or Surprised bad? :)02:07
aeromixkitche: the problem is IT DOESN'T ! apparently02:07
flasher222how can i convert a wav file to mp3?02:07
jribcmweb: the servers start on their own02:07
LjL!lame | flasher22202:07
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB02:07
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kenzukeAnyone using Beryl?02:07
con-mandoes anyone know why if Im not running xgl, my movies look like film negatives from cameras02:07
LjLUbotu, tell kenzuke about beryl | kenzuke, see the private message from Ubotu02:07
SilentDisDARKGuy:  what command do you do, right now, to mount that smb share?02:07
cmwebjrib, dont worry i only did apache 202:07
flasher222LjL: can mplayer convert a wav file to mp3?02:07
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DARKGuySilentDis: none, I use LinNeighborhood, the samba commandline stuff confuses me to no end02:08
SilentDisfozzie:  I'm surprized it's pushing 800fps.  I would expect lower.  hate to say it, but ATI is hell on wheels under windows, and just poor under linux :(02:08
LjLflasher222: probably, it can convert just about anything... but lame (or soundkonverter) is probably easier02:08
jribcmweb: clear your browser cache? or try a different one02:08
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carutsuHELLO!?02:08
aeromixthere is too many people:(02:08
SilentDis!hello | carutsu02:08
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB02:08
carutsuthanks Silent02:08
LjLdrkm: KDE, yes02:08
carutsuhello, here's the story i downloaded ubuntu (it's in spanish), then i downloaded Kubuntu (KDE i mean) but it's in english, is there a way to change it? i haven't found it02:08
GaiaX11aeromix: Does nmap get mac address also? From any other computer for example a neighbour PC using an external aerial?02:08
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con-mananyone?02:08
FozzieSilentDis, Hopefully fglrx will help, right?02:08
Capslock118I deleted everything under my mounted ext3 folder to see if it would actually delete the stuff, the folders disappeared but the space is still take, This is how I gave myself permissions, does this mean i can read AND write? sudo chown -R marie:marie /storage02:09
Capslock118sudo chmod -R 755 /storage02:09
LjLcarutsu: there should be K / System / Language Support, not sure it works extremely well though02:09
SilentDisfozzie:  i think you're at about the limit that linux can push that card (IE, it's all setup right)02:09
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drkmLjL: why KDE over Gnome?02:09
cmwebjrin, ljl | You guys are geniuses the browser was the problem it works now      Medal of honor to you both02:09
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carutsulet me see, thank you LjL02:09
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cmwebjrib*02:09
carutsui prefer KDE02:09
mzanfardino!samba | carutsu02:09
pr0-j03drkm: why not :P02:09
ubotucarutsu: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:09
carutsuis just so customizable02:09
SilentDisDARKGuy:  you'll have to get your hands a bit dirty to get that mount point in there, i'm sorry to say.02:09
flasher222LjL:  thanks!02:09
drkmpr0-j03: KDE looked a bit clunky to me last time I used it hehe02:10
con-manQQ02:10
toM|vendettAhi is there a way to get flash to detect my webcam?02:10
mzanfardinoSWAT02:10
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mzanfardino!swat02:10
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:10
niuneed for help!02:10
LjLcarutsu: otherwise,    sudo apt-get install  language-pack-kde-es-base  kde-i18n-es  language-pack-kde-es02:10
SilentDisDARKGuy:  one main thing I've learned about linux:  you set it up once through a lengthly setup process, and it works forever PERIOD.  hehe02:10
LjLcmweb: the browser? how?02:10
carutsufinally02:10
FozzieSilentDis, What was that command you gave me earlier, to run through the video setup?02:10
carutsui knew that02:10
SilentDisfozzie:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:10
pr0-j03Ok :D I am using it now.. I think i might go back to gnome myself. It is a bit clunky, and for some reason (this might not be KDE) i cant accsess my NFTS Partiton. APT-GET install ubuntu-desktop, HERE I COME :D02:11
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mzanfardinoLjL: Can I install KDE if I've already go GNOME installed?02:11
un_operateur1sure02:11
pr0-j03I think you can02:11
LjLdrkm: programs i like better, more flexibility (at the expense of horribly crowd preferences windows), and more integration02:11
carutsupr0-j03 you should mount it first02:11
FozzieSilentDis i'll write it down this time before i log out.  Thanks for your help, it is deeply appreciated!!02:11
LjLUbotu, tell mzanfardino about kde | mzanfardino, see the private message from Ubotu02:11
n2diySilentDis, nothing works forever, what is your backup strategy?02:11
pr0-j03I tryed02:11
un_operateur1KDE and Gnome and XFCE and any other WM can co-exist on the same machine02:11
SilentDisfozzie:  any time :)02:11
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SilentDisn2diy:  a 1TB raid array on scsi with 10k rpm server hard drives, currently.  rofl02:12
pr0-j03But it cant find it in /etc/somthingorother02:12
Fozziequit02:12
Fozzieoops02:12
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wimpiesare there packages for 2.1 openoffice ?02:12
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carutsuusually no02:12
carutsuthey think are too buggy02:12
wimpies2.1 has been released ...02:12
carutsuthe latest develompent isn't there usually02:13
carutsui know that02:13
n2diySilentDis, roger that, I'm trying to get Mondo working, but the developers haven't returned my email, in 36 hours. I don't have the hardware to match your setup.02:13
wimpiesand I have problems with some bugs02:13
mzanfardinoLjL: thank you, but the link didn't answer the basic question: can I have both GNOME and KDE installed on the same system?02:13
kitchemzanfardino: yes02:13
un_operateur1mzanfardino, yes02:13
pr0-j03Yes, i think you can.02:13
pr0-j03Lol.02:13
mzanfardinothank you all!02:13
carutsutotally YES02:13
LjLmzanfardino: "to install from Ubuntu"... what does that suggest you? ;)02:13
pr0-j03k :D02:13
SilentDisn2diy: only reason I have something like that is because I came upon a true rare find on eBay.  some guy was selling drives, he had no idea what they were, and I swooped :)02:13
carutsuactually i have booth right now02:13
niui can't use the uspalsh in my box.02:14
mzanfardinobah... it suggests to me that it might replace GNOME... but that's why I asked02:14
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SilentDisn2diy:  i've had it for nearly 4 years now.  it's saved my butt numerous times to have an endless 'backup point' attached to my BSD server :)02:14
LjLmzanfardino: there are only two downsides that i can think of: 1) your Gnome menus get crowded by KDE applications, and your KDE menus likewise  2) if you later decide to uninstall either Gnome or KDE, it's not necessarily very easy02:14
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carutsuexactly02:14
h0ndaracer2how do i navigate to the home folder then to the exaples folder02:14
n2diySilentDis, ok, good for you. Then what was your backup strategy before that?02:14
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LjLmzanfardino: if you install KDE using aptitude instead of apt-get, the latter most probably becomes easier.02:14
carutsuactually i still can't uninstall GNOME02:14
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pr0-j03Gah.  i have just started downloading Gnome GUI02:15
SilentDisn2diy:  it was mostly based upon prayer and sacred incantations.02:15
carutsuyea but uninstal GNOME is hard02:15
carutsucouse it was ubuntu first02:15
LjLcarutsu: indeed, you can't. if you uninstall libgnome2.0-0, though, you'll have gotten rid of most of it02:15
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Smittyhello, I'm wondering if anyone can give me a diagnosis to some of my mp3's popping.  Is it the files?02:15
n2diySilentDis, I recently discovered that isn't very effective. :/02:15
slicky_hi.. what is a "kicker"?     "What I do to solve this, is minimize Torrent to kicker, and then to maximize it again"02:15
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drkmLjL: how would I go about installing KDE to give it a go?02:15
SilentDisn2diy:  no, no it isn't rofl02:15
LjLUbotu, tell drkm about kde | drkm, see the private message from Ubotu02:16
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kutohow come /etc/profile in ubuntu is so short?02:16
mzanfardinoLjL: thank you.  I use Kate for javascript editing, and thought that if I installed KDE it might run more cleanly.02:16
SilentDisn2diy:  it helps to get the BEST witch doctor in the area though ;)02:16
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Smittymp3's popping, anyone?02:16
carutsumm.. i see02:16
pr0-j03DRKM02:16
LjLmzanfardino: well, if you run KDE and then (besides Kate) mostly run GNOME programs on it, it'll be just as unclean or worse ;)02:16
biotrox!drkm02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drkm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
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carutsuhowever after that usually is good to have the libreries isnt it?02:16
n2diySilentDis, so until I can get Mondo working, what should I be backing up besides /home?02:16
drkmpr0:?02:16
pr0-j03terminal: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:16
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DARKGuyGah, network messed up02:16
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slicky_ubotu: kicker02:17
kutowhere does ubuntu store the variable PATH?02:17
pr0-j03drkm: see above :D02:17
ubotukicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB02:17
mzanfardinoLjL: ok, any suggestions for a new GUI editor for languages like javascript that run will in GNOME?02:17
slicky_!ubotu: kicker02:17
carutsusee ya later02:17
LjLcarutsu: i don't have the gnome libraries installed. i see no reason to take up hundreds of megs of disk, when i'm not using gnome applications :)02:17
LjLblah02:17
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SilentDisn2diy:  if you've got /home backed up, that's a darn good start.  means you'll loose your os, and not much else.  under debian, it doesn't hurt to backup your package archives and some basic settings files too02:17
jribkuto: gets set in /etc/environment I believe02:17
LjLmzanfardino: i use KDE myself, so not really...02:17
pr0-j03I dont know if it will run in Gnome, but i am using Kate right now, its good.02:17
kutocool thanks02:18
un_operateur1$PATH is usually defined in your shell's rcfile02:18
pr0-j03im tired.02:18
mzanfardinoLjL: ok. I guess I will have to build a KDE vm and see if I like it any better (have no real preference, just used GNOME and not KDE).02:18
pr0-j03^^02:18
pr0-j03mzanfardino: I think that you can install KDE, and then change the GUI with somthing called Session Manager?02:19
pr0-j03Im not sure though.02:19
LjLmzanfardino: actually, if you use aptitude to install it, i think you'll be able to completely remove it and be back to your GNOME desktop as you left it (perhaps making a new user for KDE might be best, if you really are concerned)02:19
n2diySilentDis, ok roger the .deb archives, any clue what settings files to backup?02:19
SilentDisok, i just herd David Bowie / Bing Crosby sing a duet of "Peace on Earth / Little Drummer Boy"  that was really cool :)02:19
LjLmzanfardino: don't take my word on it, but i've done this before02:19
LjLpr0-j03: you just need to click on the Sessions (or Options, in GDM) button in the display manager and select your session02:19
Drako60http://pastebin.ca/280562  http://pastebin.ca/280571   http://pastebin.ca/280573   <-- would anyone care to look at that and help me out a bit02:19
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SilentDisn2diy:  depends on how much you're willing to restore later.  I'd say the xorg.conf can die, but maybe your /etc/fstab would be good... and in your /home, make sure you grab all .file config info.02:20
mzanfardinoLjL: thanks again02:20
mzanfardinolater02:20
n2diySilentDis, David Bowie, and Bing Crosby!? And I'm asking you for advice!!!??? :)02:20
SilentDisn2diy:  rofl02:20
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n2diySilentDis, roger on the files.02:20
kutojrib: what file does env read?02:20
nothlit!sbackup | n2diy02:20
ubotun2diy: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe02:20
Smittyhow do you diagnose mp3's that click or pop02:20
kutowhen you you export how do you unexport02:21
nothlitn2diy, but it isn't like mondo from bare metal02:21
kutocan you unset easily02:21
kutopls help02:21
SilentDisn2diy:  depends, as I said, on what exactly you're willing to restore later, assuming the worst.02:21
nothlitLjL, apt-get remove autoremove?02:21
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LjLnothlit: actually, it's just "apt-get autoremove"02:21
nothlitLjL, oh, i just looked at psychocats.net02:21
LjLnothlit: but i didn't have very exceptional experiences with that - while aptitude always worked nicely02:21
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nothlitLjL, oh it doesn't always work?02:22
SilentDisn2diy:  I usually keep text files of everything I've configured sitting around (i installed this that and the other thing, they do this that the other, are attached to the package <packagename>, etc) in my /home folder02:22
LjLnothlit: (specifically, i just installed GNOME to try something the other day, and autoremove didn't remove even half of it)02:22
n2diySilentDis, I was using sbackup, and it was a disaster, the restore program doesn't have a progress indicator, so you don't know when it is finished.02:22
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nothlitLjL, wow02:22
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LjLnothlit: apparently not - it probably does some thinking of its own in order to decide which packages you want and which you don't... but i'd rather just have aptitude removing *all* packages that i haven't installed explicitly02:23
adyyo02:23
LjLor perhaps it just still has some bugs02:23
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n2diyI just did a bare metal restore, with the install cd, and what I manged to get off sbackup.02:23
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SilentDisn2diy:  when I reinstall, i usually just copy over my .debs, my /home folder files, and then have a lengthly sudo apt-get install line that i've setup.02:23
nothlitn2diy, its a tar, you can do it manually02:23
LjL!cloning | SilentDis02:24
adyis anyone in here using wine on ubuntu02:24
ubotuSilentDis: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"02:24
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jrib!anyone | ady02:24
ubotuady: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?02:24
LjL!ask | ady02:24
ubotuady: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:24
LjL@lart jrib02:24
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LjLhey, it's enabled?!02:24
nothlitLjL, ahh, i like aptitude better anyways02:24
SilentDisljl:  oh cool, was wondering how to do that in an easier way.  I've been just copying them around lol02:24
SilentDisljl:  thanks :D02:24
jribLjL: great... now everyone knows :P02:24
gyaresuHey. I've got two laptops now that need to have 'kdm' restarted because it just drops to a terminal. Any ideas?02:24
adyare you all mostly linux people?02:24
DARKGuyHm, I installed Ubuntu using the alternate CD, plain CLI interface installed and installed Xorg, Fluxbox and such. I just installed Kate and Konsole (since it was needed by Kate's terminal window) but then it replaced my Bash terminal in Fluxbox. Is there a way to change the default terminal app somewhere?02:25
SilentDisLjL: oh god... they didn't enable all of them, did they?02:25
LjLady: is that a trick question?02:25
un_operateur1aptitude has a nasty habit of removing packages that are needed by other 3rd party packages compiled from source, etc02:25
SilentDis@ferengi02:25
gyaresuady: You mean smart?02:25
drkmif I go ahead and install KDE via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.. will it switch over from Gnome on my next restart or do I need to edit some for of config?02:25
SilentDisLjL: that answers that at least lol02:25
drkmfor = sort*02:25
n2diySilentDis, what is a tar I can do manually? Now I use Nautilus's archive feature.02:25
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SilentDisn2diy:  you're looking to tar what?02:26
gyaresuAnyone else having KDM crash on startup?02:26
un_operateur1drkm, you'll need to chose KDE at logon02:26
DARKGuydrkm: you'll have to choose your session (to be KDE) when you restart and are back on GDM02:26
Drako60well obviously no one wants to even tell me they don't have a clue, let alone help. this officially sucks02:26
drkmok thanks02:26
nothlit!X | gyaresu02:26
ubotugyaresu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:26
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n2diySilentDis, I'm not looking to tar anything, you brought that up.(?)02:26
DARKGuyDrako60: If you don't ask, don't expect an answer :/ I haven't seen a question by you so...02:27
cmwebcan i just place a command instide a script and have it work?02:27
SilentDisDrako60: i'm here, just missed your question.  ask again :)02:27
gyaresunothlit: Thanks but this is specific and happening on two different laptops now.02:27
nothlitdkrm, to choose which display/logon manager you want you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm)02:27
adyLjL i have recently turned away from M$ window$02:27
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cmwebsuch as /usr/local/bin/noip202:27
un_operateur1cmweb, sure -- as long as the script is run properly02:27
Drako60http://pastebin.ca/280562  http://pastebin.ca/280571   http://pastebin.ca/280573   <-- would anyone care to look at that and help me out a bit02:27
SilentDisn2diy:  i didn't lol02:27
nothlitgyaresu, you want something other than restarting kdm?02:27
Drako60DARKGuy, i've asked three times so far02:27
ozonecois there a sudo level file manager with a GUI?02:27
DARKGuyDrako60: ah, my bad then oO02:27
LjLady: well, this is the support channel for Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, so yeah, i suppose we mostly do use Linux in here02:27
un_operateur1sudoing a GUI is bad practise02:27
adyhaha02:28
SilentDisDrako60:  what's the gist of your problem?  I've got 43 windows up right now, and can't hit the pastebin.02:28
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gyaresunothlit: I've got no crash logs. It restarts just fine. It just doesn't want to start up from boot.02:28
un_operateur1s/practise/practice/02:28
LjLozoneco: what's wrong with just doing Alt+F2 and typing "gksudo nautilus"?02:28
LjLwell, right, there's a few things wrong with that, but still02:28
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ozonecoLjL: nothing, prolly the answer i was looking for, ty02:28
un_operateur1you almost never need to run nautilus (or anything else GUI for that matter) as root02:29
nothlitgyaresu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm02:29
blankyhey guys, I was downloading eclipse-sdk through sudo apt-get install, but it was a 100 something MB download, I stopped it with CTRL+C because I don't wnat to download it right now, is there a way to remove the stuff it downloaded?02:29
Drako60SilentDis, kernel crashing, X randomly crashing, nv_sata hangs without passing grub noapci noapic, gcc-4.1 segfaults when trying to compile kernel 2.6.19, shall i go on? oh yeah and ioctl errors02:29
DARKGuyDrako60: what's the problem specifically? :/02:29
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DARKGuyAh02:29
un_operateur1drak -- apt-get install -f02:29
LjLozoneco: just keep in mind that to run GUI programs as root you should use "gksudo" rather than "sudo" - and also as un_operateur1 said, you should try to avoid that anyway02:29
blankyanyone02:29
n2diySilentDis, you did, at 20:23, but it doesn't matter. I'm archiving with Nautilus, and have a test box setup now to test it on.02:29
nothlitgyaresu, otherwise, you can check if its a service with rcconf (command line tool) or something like bum, i don't know the kde equivalent02:29
DARKGuyoO holy hell02:29
SilentDisDrako60:  i was just having virtually the same issues... my problem is a psu failing.02:29
gyaresunothlit: Yeah. I havn't done that yet. Silly me. Thanks.02:29
ozonecook, appreciated02:29
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blankyokay just ignore me, guys :'(02:29
blankyLjL: you?02:30
LjLblanky: sudo apt-get clean02:30
adyblanky, i would help ya but i'm also a new02:30
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blankyLjL: *thumbs up*02:30
blankyady: thanks anyways :D02:30
Drako60SilentDis, PSU is fine to my knowledge, this just started happening since i installed the last kernel security update02:30
SilentDisblanky:  it'll store the partial files in a partial area until you finish the install02:30
SilentDisblanky:  they won't affect your machine at all.02:30
blankySilenceGold: oohh...02:30
blankywow, I already did sudo apt-get clean though :'(02:31
blankyso i guess they're gone?02:31
cmwebFatal error:  Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/admin/install2.php on line 69 occures when running a script, does ubuntu carry the function?02:31
gyaresunothlit: ls /etc/rc5.d/02:31
SilentDisblanky:  yes, clean will kill the debs02:31
un_operateur1blanky, you might need this instead  -- apt-get install -f02:31
blankyoh well, thanks anyways for the info SilenceGold02:31
LjLcmweb: only if you install the mysql php module02:31
un_operateur1or better aptitude install -f02:31
computermcI am installing mysql-administrator by source, and it says it depends on glib. My problem is that I can't find it in the package manger. Any suggestions?02:31
blankythanks un_operateur102:31
CalJohnI'm using urxvt (rxvt-unicode) and it sets it's font in ~/.Xdefaults .  However, no font setting I ever use ever works correctly - it sticks with its own font - a nasty one.  my current font line is "#URxvt*font:            xft:Bitstream Vera Sans mono:size=16"  This works fine on another machine (gentoo).  What's the problem?02:31
LjLcmweb: php5-mysql02:31
cmwebljl, i apperantly didnt do a full lamp02:32
LjLcmweb: guess so02:32
jribcomputermc: mysql-admin is in the universe repository02:32
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Drako60DARKGuy, unfortantly i wasn't able to grab the ioctl errors, as the system froze and it wasn't logged02:32
eyalwhi, cam driver help, logitech cam02:32
cmwebljl, i have it02:32
SilentDisdrako60:  if you're getting random crashes that seem to be kinda all over the place, I always suspect heat/psu first.  just me and how I work (from experience).  other than that, i'm not sure what could be causing such things.02:32
nothlitgyaresu, yes? what about run level 5?02:32
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Starcraftmazter_hi, for some reason, as of today, when I start gaim, it exits 1-2 seconds after it finishes signing on02:33
eyalwi tried it with aMSN, it recognized a device named logitech quickCam and a channel named webcam, but the picture is gray02:33
antjmonsorry to cut in guys, can anyone tell me or point me in the direction of allowing an already configured user to use mythtv?  it is already configured correctly under user: mythtv02:33
DARKGuyDrako60: x_x SilentDis is right though, sometimes hardware issues can give you a real hard time in software (I've had problems like that happening under Windoze, and it was just a high temp inside the case :/ )02:33
jribCalJohn: does it work after you do 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults' ?02:33
n2diycomputermc, did you try synaptic?02:33
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cmwebljl, php5-mysql is already the newest version.02:33
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gyaresunothlit: just mentioned it for finding out what services start at that runlevel. platform agnostic :)02:33
computermcn2diy: I found it in synaptic and I'm trying to install it, hold on just a sec02:34
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eyalwhi, cam driver help, logitech cam02:34
adyi had to reinstall this opperating system 5 times to get it to work right02:34
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jribCalJohn: also, what is the # for?  I've never used that02:34
un_operateur1Starcraftmazter_, start gaim from a command line -- perhaps you'll get useful error messages spat out there02:34
un_operateur1gaim &02:34
Starcraftmazter_good idea, thanks02:34
SilentDisredneck heat issue solution:  case side off, box fan in :D02:34
Drako60DARKGuy, yes i've had that problem on the 3.3 rail before, but that doesn't explain why sata_nv hangs at boot even when the system was off for over 2 hours02:34
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admin_Hello02:35
Drako60hehe SilentDis i could pull the side off wouldn't bother me02:35
nothlitgyaresu, yeah but tools are nice for disabling :)02:35
nothlitgyaresu, but not necessarily removing02:35
DARKGuyDrako60: heh, in that I wouldn't have a clue since I've never had experience with SATA stuff :/02:35
CalJohnjrib: no, that still doesn't work.  the "#" was a typo (i was testing different fonts by commenting them out).02:35
SilentDisi shall return in a bit.  got some stuff to do around the house02:35
computermcn2diy: that worked thanks02:35
jribCalJohn: comments use a ! in those files02:35
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nothlitun_operateur1, theres a ncurses gaim now02:36
Starcraftmazter_(gaim:11479): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed02:36
Starcraftmazter_** (gaim:11479): WARNING **: cannot open display: unset02:36
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CalJohnjrib: heh, i know, just realised that :p02:36
ozonecohow do i put /var/www back to the defaults for the folder and its contents?02:36
n2diycomputermc, nada, does mc stand for motorcycle club?02:36
nothlitexport DISPLAY=:002:36
un_operateur1nothlit, you mean naim??02:36
ozonecofor the rights02:36
LjLcmweb: what about libapache2-mod-auth-mysql  ?02:36
BillyBober09How do i install A driver on ubuntu02:36
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nothlitun_operateur1, dunno, its like a plugin or something, i saw it on the blog02:36
computermcthey're my initials02:36
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jribCalJohn: maybe that was the problem?02:37
blankyStarcraftmazter_: you were trying to run vnc?02:37
un_operateur1nothlit, what fun would that be eh? :)02:37
Starcraftmazter_I don02:37
Starcraftmazter_I don't think so *02:37
blankyStarcraftmazter_: if it still happens, try logging out and logging back in02:37
whyameyeBillyBober09: what driver do you want to install? Have you just tried the device to see if it works out of the box?02:37
Starcraftmazter_ok02:37
n2diyBilyBober09, you don't they are call modules, what are you trying to get to work?02:37
computermcn2diy: they're my initials02:37
blankyStarcraftmazter_: FIRST, though, do sudo apt-get install irssi02:37
CalJohnjrib: apparantly not.  :(02:37
Starcraftmazter_whats irssi02:37
BillyBober09its a neomagic graphics card02:37
blankyjust in case you can't get into gnome/kde/whatever, if you can't, type irssi for irc02:37
Drako60DARKGuy, also doesn't really explain why gcc would be segfaulting02:37
n2diycomputermc, roger that.02:37
blankyit's a command line irc client02:37
LjL!usernames | BillyBober0902:38
ubotuBillyBober09: Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab02:38
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Starcraftmazter_irssi is already the newest version.02:38
whyameyeBillyBober09: well...does it work?02:38
BillyBober09 Tab not sure what u mean02:38
blankyStarcraftmazter_: okay, try logging out and bakc in then02:38
Starcraftmazter_ok02:38
blankyStarcraftmazter_: i suggest a complete restart if you dont mind02:38
DARKGuyDrako60: No idea either, have you tried using another kernel version? blind guess but who knows oO02:38
whyameyeBillyBober09: why do you think you need to install a driver for this neomagic?02:38
shwagso why would phpmyadmin be using an old configuration if I completely deleted the old configuration already?02:38
BillyBober09whyameye: liekt his02:39
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n2diyubotu, what is this !tab stuff? I've been typing prefixes manually?02:39
Drako60DARKGuy, no but that was one of my guesses too02:39
jribCalJohn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37276/ is mine and it seems to work, can you try that file?02:39
LjL!tab | n2diy, BillyBober0902:39
ubotun2diy, BillyBober09: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:39
DARKGuyDrako60: It might be worth a shot then :P02:39
CalJohnjrib: site seems to be down02:40
Drako60hrm and no way to test my PSU02:40
BillyBober09im still confused, do u mean the tab button02:40
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CalJohnjrib: ignore last message02:40
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LjLBillyBober09: just try typing "billy" and the the TAB key on your keyboard02:41
BillyBober09BillyBober09,02:41
n2diyubotu, not working for me, but I'm new to irc, where should I go to learn this stuff?02:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about not working for me, but I'm new to irc, where should I go to learn this stuff? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:41
BillyBober09oh ok02:41
BillyBober09so`i type the name and then tab and then message right02:41
un_operateur1n2diy, ubotu is a bot not a human eh :)02:41
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un_operateur1n2diy, what are you trying to learn about?02:41
j0rg3Hello, all.02:42
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un_operateur1hey j0rg302:42
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BillyBober09ubun02:42
j0rg3How are you, un_op?02:42
CalJohnjrib: still no difference02:42
jribCalJohn: weird, I change font size and it doens't seem to affect it.  The other stuff seems to work though (I changed the height to 45 rows)02:43
un_operateur1j0rg3, good good :)02:43
un_operateur1you?02:43
Dr34mC0d3rwhen i type date I get Fri Dec 15 18:41:15 MST 2006  I need to set it to CST. Anyone???? thanks02:43
n2diyubotu is a bot heh!? Ok, I was getting to like him too. I trying to learn auto completion of user names. Tab isn't working for me.02:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot heh!? Ok, I was getting to like him too. I trying to learn auto completion of user names. Tab isn't working for me. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:43
jribCalJohn: do other settings work for you?02:43
Dr34mC0d3rubuntu 6.0602:43
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j0rg3Very good.  I've just installed Xubuntu Edgy on the computer that I am about to give to my son and I am testing.02:44
CalJohnjrib: nope.  seems that no settings do.  i just tried swapping round the foreground/background settings, and no colour changes.  weird.02:44
un_operateur1n2diy, that depends on the program you use -- is this exclusive to aparticular program?02:44
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BillyBober09whyameye, i my problem is that i cant get my screen resolution big its very small like 6 hundreed something x somehting02:44
KrinkleI installed fine, but I can't boot after restarting.02:44
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un_operateur1cool j0rg3 I hope the upgrade went fine (fingers-crossed)02:44
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whyameyeBillyBober09: and you already tried system -> pref -> screen resolution, I take it?02:44
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Krinkleit says "PCI: JMB36x enabling dual function on 0000:06:00.0" and when I google this I only get people who couldn't install in the first place02:45
BillyBober09whyameye, yep02:45
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n2diyun_operateurl, I don't know, I'm running Xchat, and I don't do enough stuff on the command line to find it useful, but let me go check it out in a terminal.02:45
j0rg3Yeah.  This is my first Xubuntu install.  A little trouble getting past the onboard video.  Small stuff.  It is quite impressive.02:45
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Starcraftmazterstill does it eh02:46
jribCalJohn: what if you specify it with a switch to urxvt itself?02:46
whyameyeBillyBober09: try on the command line: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and go through the menus and add the resolutions you want.02:46
j0rg3un_op, I see that you are VERY busy.  I'll let you help the people who need it.  ;)02:46
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un_operateur1j0rg3, not really -- just lurking mostly :)02:46
BillyBober09whyameye, thats what my teacher told me to do but i went through the whole thing and it wont work02:46
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Dr34mC0d3rwhen i type date I get Fri Dec 15 18:41:15 MST 2006  I need to set it to CST. Anyone???? thanks - ubuntu 6.0602:46
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kutohi02:47
kutohow do i ssh in my localhost?02:47
whyameyeBillyBober09: did you select the resolutions you want?02:47
un_operateur1Starcraftmazter, try this command in a terminal --  DISPLAY=:1 gaim &02:47
jribkuto: have you install openssh-server?02:47
n2diyun_operateur1, it seems to work in terminal, now I'm going to try it here.02:47
BillyBober09whyameye, yes I selected like 5 of them02:47
un_operateur1oops02:47
un_operateur1DISPLAY=:0 gaim02:47
j0rg3un_up, it looks quite complicated to me.  :)02:47
un_operateur1sorry, mind the first mistake :)02:47
Starcraftmazter507902:47
whyameyeBillyBober09: what did you choose when it asked you about configuring the screen. I think you choose "simple, medium, advanced."02:47
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kutojrib: i have the openssh-client installed will that work02:47
jribkuto: well you need the server to connect to02:48
un_operateur1kuto, you need the openssh-server too02:48
n2diyun_operateur1: it works, but there is seems to be a critical number of characters needed? un didn't work, but un_ did.02:48
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nothlitkuto, you don't ssh into your localhost, you already have access to it, ssh is for 'remote' computers02:48
BillyBober09whyameye, i have tried all three, I have been through the process many times02:48
BillyBober09why02:48
CalJohnjrib: yep, command line switches work.  "urxvt -tr -tint blue -sh 40" is a lot of fun.  I like blue.02:48
Geoffrey2lesse, my ubuntu laptop is essentially hung again...the desktop is up, but no applications will start02:48
CalJohnjrib: ;)02:48
un_operateur1yes n2diy .. because tab has to disambiguate between two or more people whose names begin with un02:48
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whyameyeBillyBober09: so you set the horizontal and vertical refresh rates to match your monitor...02:48
BillyBober09whyameye, my main concern was medium02:49
n2diyun_operateur1: roger that.02:49
BillyBober09whyameye, didnt know what to do there02:49
whyameyeBillyBober09: I can't remember medium specifically. Did you choose a large size for your monitor?02:49
kutojrib: where does ubuntu store hostname?02:49
BillyBober09whyameye, 1024 x something02:49
un_operateur1if tab doesnt respond at first -- its a sign -- press it twice quickly -- it suggests names for you02:49
jribkuto: system > administration > networking  to change it02:50
kutojrib: where does ubuntu store hostname localhost and the 127.0.0.102:50
n2diyAre there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?02:50
j0rg3un_op: Maybe it is just the separate conversations going on.  I've not been on IRC in quite awhile.02:50
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whyameyeBillyBober09: that's a resolution, but maybe it is "simple" which asks you the size of your monitor in inches.02:50
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whyameyeBillyBober09: is this an old monitor i.e. not "plug and play?"02:50
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un_operateur1j0rg3, it's basically one big conversation -- lucky i have a big monitor :)02:51
Stormx2I'm so proud I got my wireless working, hehe02:51
BillyBober09whyameye, its a laptop. Toshiba tecra 800002:51
Geoffrey2I am finding when I leave the computer unattended for significant periods of time, I'll come back to find that nothing will start, and the normal shutdown procedure won't work....02:51
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Starcraftmazterany other ideas?02:51
wickedly_coolwow 830 users and not one operator02:51
un_operateur1kuto -- /etc/hosts02:51
BillyBober09whyameye, i bought it used02:51
jribkuto: the relevant files are /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.  If you decide to edit these by hand for some reason, make sure they agree02:51
Geoffrey2won't work, as in, clicking on the red icon results in absolutely nothing happening at all02:52
nothlitwickedly_cool, there are, but they don't reveal themselves unless they need to do something02:52
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j0rg3un_op: JAJA!  (I laugh in Spanish).  You are a much better multi-tasker than I.02:52
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whyameyeBillyBober09: Google is your friend. I googled for you and the first link has a solution to your problem: http://outlands.ca/linux/t8000.html02:52
n2diywickedly_cool: you can talk ubotu, the bot.02:52
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Starcraftmazterah hey here's something, Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.02:52
StarcraftmazterThis is a bug in the software and has happened through02:52
Starcraftmazterno fault of your own.02:52
DARKGuyj0rg3: Jaja, I can laugh too, 'cause I'm spanish, ha! :P02:52
wickedly_cooloh i see... undercover02:52
jribCalJohn: when in doubt head to bug tracker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/rxvt-unicode/+bug/6510202:52
un_operateur1Starcraftmazter, you could try a uninstall/reinstall .. it might help02:52
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Starcraftmazterokey02:53
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kutojrib: ok well in fedora your localhost is set to 127.0.0.1 already but you can specify your hostname by editing /etc/hostname or /etc/host now how do i edit my hostname?02:53
un_operateur1j0rg3, I wish i could do better :)02:53
BillyBober09whyameye, thanks i'll take A look. I tried google and apparently I searched for the wrong thing. What exactly am i looking for?02:53
j0rg3DARK: I entendo muy poco espanol (if that makes sense).  But I know how to laugh! JAJA!02:53
wickedly_coolanyone use cedega on ubuntu?02:53
jribkuto: system > administration > networking , hit the "General" tab02:53
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j0rg3entiedo, I think.  Sorry.02:53
un_operateur1kuto -- sudo hostname <hostname>02:53
whyameyeBillyBober09: what you need is to add the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines that the site mentions. The directions are for Breezy but they will work for any version of ubuntu.02:53
DARKGuyj0rg3: it did, and that's a good start heh :)02:54
un_operateur1or editing /etc/hostname02:54
kutojrib: what is the gnome equivalent of that? i need to administer that without administration in new user i am in new user sorry02:54
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DARKGuywickedly_cool: I do, not much but it works for some games why?02:54
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j0rg3un_op:  This would drive me crazy.  You must have a BAWLS drip in your arm.02:54
un_operateur1lol no02:54
jribkuto: that is the gnome equivalent.  Do you not have the "administration" menu?02:54
un_operateur1just nimble fingers and a 20/20 vision :)02:54
BillyBober09whyameye, ok thanks i may be back dunno hopefully not02:54
Dr34mC0d3rwhen i type date I get Fri Dec 15 18:41:15 MST 2006  I need to set it to CST. Anyone help ???? thanks - ubuntu 6.0602:54
whyameyeBillyBober09: do you know how to edit as root?02:55
n2diykuto, sudo gives you admin privledges.02:55
un_operateur1Dr34mC0d3r, is there a specific reason for doing this?02:55
FernandoCordeshow can i remove a dir and all of its content?02:55
kutojrib: my user dont have admin priveledges02:55
jribFernandoCordes: rm -r directory02:55
nothlitFernandoCordes, rm -fr /path/to/dir02:55
un_operateur1and what is CST and MST ?? how do they differ -- sorry, i'm a european02:55
The_Jack_of_Clubif i share something in linux then go to windows and try to access the share it asks for a user name... how do i enable guest authentication so that windows can read my smb shares on my ubuntu comp with out a password?02:55
jribkuto: oh, well you need them to change the hostname.  Can you switch to the user that does have admin privs?02:55
j0rg3DARK: Thanks, I am trying.  Mostly I set my phones and equip to have Spanish menus.  That is how I am starting.  ;)  I know juegos like the back of my hand.02:56
BillyBober09whyameye, no02:56
kutojrib: yes by terminal02:56
j0rg3JAJA02:56
jribkuto: how?02:56
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Dr34mC0d3run_operateur1 - my php data insert's are recording the same incorrect date - i thought that if i correct the system date that would fix my data issue...02:56
CalJohnjrib: hmmm.  this is an annoying bug.02:56
The_Jack_of_Club!samba02:56
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:56
CalJohnnever cooperate!02:57
The_Jack_of_Clubforgot about ubotu :)02:57
n2diyFernandoCordes: open a terminal, enter "sudo nautilus" go to the directory you want, right click, and send it to the trash.02:57
kutohey jrib: i change my nickname to untony ok02:57
CalJohnjrib: thanks for the help02:57
untony2hi jrib02:57
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jribCalJohn: yeah, I had always used it with capital letters too02:57
jribuntony2: hello02:57
The_Jack_of_Clubbah02:58
un_operateur1Dr34mC0d3r, you can formulate your own date format like this  date +"%H %M %S %p"  --  type date --help at the command line for extra options02:58
The_Jack_of_Clubno help02:58
orangeflycan anyone tell me why my shared folder on my ubuntu server keeps say access is denied when i try to write to it....???....02:58
j0rg3un_op: I put a Knoppix disk in my computer and it no longer works.  Why?02:58
The_Jack_of_Clubhow do i get windows to stop asking for a username and password02:58
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The_Jack_of_Cluball i need02:58
kutook i log back in with admin support ubuntu is now looking like XP02:58
whyameyeBillyBober09: "sudo" gives you admin privs. So the best thing to do is go to the terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then edit the file by adding/modifying the Horiz and Vert lines they mention. Make sure you save the file.02:58
CalJohnjrib: damnit, it doesn't even work with lower case02:58
FernandoCordesn2diy: i knew how to do it nautilus but i was looking for the command. thx anyways02:58
un_operateur1j0rg3, by disk i suppose you mean CD/DVD ??02:58
jribCalJohn: did you merge?02:58
Geoffrey2what's the key combo to pull up tty1?02:58
FernandoCordeshow can i remove all files containing a certain string?02:58
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jribGeoffrey2: ctrl-alt-f102:59
CalJohnjrib: aha.  :)02:59
j0rg3un_op:  You are a noble man.  I was just making a joke.02:59
nothlitThe_Jack_of_Club, you can add as passwd with smbpasswd, or edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and change security to share02:59
un_operateur1Geoffrey2, CTRL+ALT+F102:59
n2diyFernandoCordes: roger02:59
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un_operateur1j0rge :d02:59
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lufisWhat does it mean for a processor to have one speed "internally" and another "externally"?02:59
The_Jack_of_Clubok ill try that02:59
Drako60is make modules still required when compiling a kernel?02:59
Geoffrey2oh fun, I can't even get tty1 to come up now02:59
blankyGUYS! :'( I updated the kernel through the updates program and not my /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't have the windows entry!02:59
blankyHow can I Add it?02:59
CalJohnjrib: so how come you can use caps?02:59
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lufisblanky: why in god's name would you want to add THAT? ;)03:00
n2diyDoes the system abandon the first tty when X starts? I always use ctl+F2.03:00
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blankycan anyone help me? :(03:00
nothlit!grub | blanky03:00
ubotublanky: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:00
somerville32!ask | blanky03:00
ubotublanky: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:00
lufisblanky: look for a backup file03:00
untony2jrib: i am in network settings03:00
wystrange. My ubuntu started to crash03:00
baconbaconlufis, internal clock speed vs external bus speed03:00
jribCalJohn: well the size was changing but the font wasn't.  It used to work fine on previous versions of ubuntu03:00
blankysomerville32: I did ask my question, read next time03:00
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nothlitsomerville32, he asked the question first03:00
jribuntony2: hit the "general" tab03:00
blankylufis: none03:00
lufisbaconbacon: ah, thank you03:00
untony2jrib ok03:01
blankythanks nothlit03:01
somerville32blanky: There is a script to update grub, one sec03:01
Geoffrey2ok, how about to kill all processes?03:01
untony2jrib ok i see it i dont want to change my host name03:01
blankysomerville32: er, thanks, but I don't think I want to update grub...?03:01
graftanyone got recommendations for a nice video editor?03:01
blankyI just want to re-add my windows partition entry03:01
jribuntony2: ok03:01
whyameyegraft: cinelerra03:01
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untony2jrib where does ubuntu store those hostname aliases for other ipaddress03:01
jribGeoffrey2: turn off your computer.  What do you mean exactly?03:01
un_operateur1I wonder if dpkg-reconfigure --priority low; grub helps in that instance03:01
somerville32blanky: I don't mean the software :P03:01
whyameyegraft: I had quite a time installing it though. But that was awhile ago....03:01
Jordan_U_somerville32: to update grub use: sudo update-grub03:01
n2diyI answered my own question, the system does free up the first tty when X starts.03:01
graftwhyameye: there a deb version of it?03:01
untony2jrib where does ubuntu store those hostname aliases for other ipaddress03:01
blankyoo03:02
un_operateur1untony2, /etc/hosts I think03:02
untony2jrib where does ubuntu store those hostname aliases for other ipaddress#@$%#@$@%403:02
somerville32blanky, what Jordan_U_ said03:02
n2diysomerville32: Would that be in NJ?03:02
jribuntony2: /etc/hosts, but if you edit the one for 127.0.0.1 you ahve to update /etc/hostname03:02
blankyJordan_U_ and somerville32 so should I do that?03:02
blankysomerville32: oh okay03:02
lufisblanky: are you sure a backup isn't just hidden?03:02
whyameyegraft: there was but it didn't work for me, so I had to build. But you could try the deb version. Not sure where it is.03:02
jribuntony2: you only have to ask your question once03:02
somerville32blanky, :)03:02
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blankylufis: I searched, I only found menu.lst~ but that's from kate (im using kate to view it)03:02
somerville32blanky, If it doesn't fix it, I'll tell you how to add it manually03:02
blankysomerville32: thanks :)03:02
somerville32n2diy, NJ?03:02
wyIs there a way to find out the cause of a crash? Everytime I insert a cd, it will crash03:02
Geoffrey2jrib, ok, I thought someone had told me about a command like Alt-SysReq-K, or something along that line...03:02
whyameyegraft: try this http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/blog/?p=4703:02
untony2ok thanks alot jrib03:02
untony2alot03:02
n2diysomerville32: Somervill, New Jersey?03:03
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lufisblanky: isn't a file with ~ on it backup? :P03:03
nothlitblanky, ~ is probably a backup automatically made by kate03:03
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jribGeoffrey2:03:03
jribGeoffrey2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_Skinny_Elephants_Is_Utterly_Boring ?03:03
blankynothlit lufis that's what I meant, yes03:03
somerville32n2diy, Oh!! Ugh.. I live in Canada if thats what you are asking. Somerville is my last name ;] 03:03
lufisblanky: ah, sorry i can't be of more help03:03
untony2can someone type my nickname03:03
untony2can someone type my nickname03:03
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jribuntony2:03:03
nothlitblanky, oh sorry, i skim a lot on support channels03:03
blankylufis: lol thanks anyways, somerville32 and Jordan_U_ helped enough :), thanks anyways!03:03
nothlituntony2,03:03
un_operateur1Dr34mC0d3r, I hope you're ok with what i suggested03:03
blankynothlit: it's okay :)03:03
fj2hy all!03:04
untony2again03:04
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untony2untony203:04
n2diysomerville32: , ok, I used to hang out in Somerville, NJ.03:04
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jribuntony2: do this in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here03:04
wastrelUBUNTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu03:04
somerville32n2diy, Cool! :)03:04
wyHi, can anyone help with with the crashing problem?03:04
somerville32wy: Sure.03:04
untony2hi wy i can help03:04
fj2got a veeery big problem.... anyone from the usa here, willing to ping a server for me?03:04
blankysomerville32: should my menu.lst have the windows entry after I do sudo update-grub? or after I Restart, because I did that command and then cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | less and didn't find the windows entry03:04
nothlitwastrel, shhhh :P03:04
wyuntony2, somerville32 : thank you!03:04
somerville32blanky, Should automatically have it03:04
graftwhyameye: cool, thanks03:04
adywy, depends if its a partional problem, if not i cant help03:04
blankysomerville32: yeah, it doesn't appear to have been modified03:05
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fj2hmm... anyone here who is playing counter strike?03:05
somerville32blanky, Do you have /boot on a separate partition?03:05
j0rg3un_op:  What app do you use for providing background music while you answer this waterfall of inquire?03:05
slyboots_People still play that crap?03:05
untony2thanks guys03:05
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fj2or any other steam-game?03:05
blankysomerville32: no sir03:05
adyfjy i would be if i could get it to work03:05
slyboots_Jeez03:05
somerville32blanky: See query03:05
fj2ady ... that means?03:05
blankysomerville32: Im looking for a menu.lst template file online03:05
blankyokay03:06
whyameyegraft: you might check the cinelerra irc channel too. I remember some of the guys that actually build the .deb packages hang out there.03:06
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toM|vendettAhi is there a way to get flash to detect my webcam?03:06
FernandoCordesi'm trying to remove a module named vmnet (vmware networking) when i use sudo rmmod -f vmnet i get ressource temporarily unavailable. is there any way to get rid of this?03:06
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graftuse the webcam to take a picture of flash...03:06
carutsuhello03:06
wyI installed a Windows XP in the first partition just now. Before that it's a normal partition I used to store large files. After that I reinstalled grub. Later ubuntu can start. But things go strange that it crashes everytime I insert a CD03:06
toM|vendettAfj2: the steam servers are down.03:06
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j0rg3Hello, carutsu03:07
Geoffrey2I guess I could just reboot the whole thing...problem is, this problem keeps recurring, and I'd prefer to find a way to make it go away03:07
GalaeronHey guys whats up - Im new to Ubuntu and linux ^^ so I got a quick question...How the heck do you get xchat installed? I tried running the apt-get commands and it couldn't find the package and when I used the package-manager I could find nothing there. ANy ideas?03:07
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FernandoCordeswy: never do this :-)9903:07
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, you should try that in single-user mode03:07
Thurynhey03:07
carutsucan anyone tell me how to add packages (no programs) in KDE? like Synaptics?03:07
k1pieesup03:07
wastrelGalaeron:  xchat isn't in the default software repositories03:07
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wyFernandoCordes: But why does it crash?03:07
LjLUbotu, tell Galaeron about universe | Galaeron, see the private message from Ubotu03:07
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: how can i get into single-user mode?03:07
k1pieeok03:07
LjL!xchat | Galaeron03:07
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB03:07
FernandoCordeswy: don't ask. sounds really strange03:07
wastrel!universe | Galaeron03:07
ubotuGalaeron: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource03:07
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ubuntuhello03:07
ubuntui want help03:07
LjL!helpme03:08
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:08
wastrelGalaeron:  you need to "enable universe"03:08
n2diyGalaeron: did you try synaptic? System/admin/synapic03:08
ubuntuhow to enter in su to be root admin03:08
tonyyarussofj2: If you're referring to us.archive.ubuntu.com, I get nothing.03:08
LjLUbotu, tell ubuntu about sudo | ubuntu, see the private message from Ubotu03:08
somerville32!repositories | galaeron03:08
ubotugalaeron: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource03:08
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, in a terminal --- sudo telinit 103:08
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Galaeronwow thanks guys...replies out my anus :)03:08
lufis:-o03:08
FernandoCordes!gnome-terminal | ubuntu03:08
ubotugnome-terminal: The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 174 kB, installed size 408 kB03:08
wyuntony2, somerville32 : Any ideas about that?03:08
carutsuif i uninstall GNOME does synaptics go with it?03:08
Jordan_U_ubuntu: don't use su, use : sudo -S03:08
slyboots_Okay, Ran into a crappy problem, Installed Ubuntu after blitzing my drive *Sob* Tried to install Mplayer but, It wont install because Im on a AMD64 bit system03:08
LjLcarutsu: it's a GNOME program, so yes, i guess03:08
lufiscarutsu: I don't think so03:08
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somerville32wy: Does Windows crash or Ubuntu?03:09
carutsuok, but how can i add packages with KDE?03:09
slyboots_Can I not.. force it to use the 32bit version and install any needed files?03:09
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wysomerville32: Ubuntu crashes03:09
un_operateur1gnome-app-install &      might still be lurking03:09
nothlitcarutsu, kde has adept03:09
somerville32wy: I03:09
carutsui mean i know there is adop or something03:09
carutsuok03:09
somerville32wy: Not sure how the two are related03:09
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Jordan_U_ubuntu: That is a lowercase "s" so it's actually: sudo -s :)03:09
carutsubut it doesnt display all that synaptics do03:09
wysomerville32: I can boot normally and as long as I don't insert a CD, it's fine03:09
n2diycarutsu: unless you have another windows manager installed, my guess would be yes.03:09
LjLcarutsu: Adept, yes. but you can always also use apt-get / aptitude03:09
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nothlitcarutsu, you can always reinstall synaptic and use it in kde03:09
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adywy, its a ntfs partional problem03:09
somerville32wy: Insert a cd during Ubuntu is running or during the boot process?03:10
wysomerville32: OK. ignore the windows part. I03:10
carutsui like synaptic03:10
nothlit!linux32 | slyboots_03:10
wastreli like aptitude ok03:10
ubotulinux32: Wrapper to set the execution domain. In component main, is extra. Version 1-3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB03:10
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: this thing won't take my password. some kind of strange because i only have this one password03:10
carutsui want everithing gnome related out but synaptic03:10
theonceandfutureIs there a ogg ripper that is faster than Sound juicer? Oh and perhaps has something that detects a skip or scratch in the disc?03:10
nothlitwhats the collection of utils to run bits in 32 bit mode03:10
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wysomerville32: during it's running.03:10
nothlitrun apps03:10
carutsuis there a way to do that?03:10
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j0rg3Well, kids.  It was nice hanging about. This "big conversation" is about to make my eyes bleed.  I know enough that I hope to answer my own questions.  I don't know enough to answer any other questions with confidence.  L8r t8rs!03:10
wyady: How can I have this problem?03:10
LjLcarutsu: no can do, synaptic does depend about other gnome-related things... it just can't run without them. they aren't incredibly many, though03:10
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un_operateur1FernandoCordes, hmm, and you are using your password, right?03:10
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somerville32wy: Thats weird. Never heard of that happening.03:10
GalaeronMan these links are pretty vast...ill be reading for awhile. Thanks again guys03:10
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LjLcarutsu: i suggest you just start by removing libgnome. i don't think synaptic should be removed by that alone03:11
wysomerville32: yes. weird...03:11
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: right, i'm trying the password that normally brings me into my xsession03:11
FernandoCordesi have no other03:11
carutsulibgnome...03:11
somerville32wy: Try searching through the bug reports at http://bugs.launchpad.net03:11
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un_operateur1FernandoCordes, maybe this --- gksu telinit 103:11
ubuntunow i can't understand03:11
slyboots_So I need to install linux32 then?03:11
somerville32wy: The forums would be a good place to check too.03:11
wysomerville32: Ah... Because windows XP can't be installed in Thinkpad T60's SATA disk, I turned the mode into "compatible" in BIOS. Could that be the reason?03:11
untony2how do i disable remote SSH login??????????????03:11
untony2oops03:11
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untony2sorry for ?03:12
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un_operateur1disable sshd03:12
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Jordan_U_carutsu: You can use Synaptic in kubuntu, but you will need gnome-libraries to do it, so you won't have any gnome apps cluttering your menus or anything, just do: sudo apt-get install synaptic03:12
somerville32wy: Most certainly could be. Try changing it back?03:12
un_operateur1enable firewall to block port 22/ssh03:12
untony2un_operateur1: how do i disable sshd03:12
carutsuactually is what i think ill do03:12
BillyBober09whyameye, it made my screen bigger but not my resolution. I even restarted my PC and then went to resolution.03:12
n2diyuntony2: why would you want too? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of ssh?03:13
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: omg i'm tricked out by my own system. with gksu it won't work either03:13
nothlituntony2, remove the ssh server?03:13
un_operateur1untony2, uninstall it or configure firewall or remove entry from services03:13
g0tw00dHow do I get Nautilus to open in sudo?03:13
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carutsucan you repeat what should i remove to get everything else gnome-related out?03:13
un_operateur1g0tw00d, not a good idea03:13
g0tw00dwhy is that03:13
nothlitg0tw00d, press alt and f2 together, then type gksudo nautilus03:13
nothlitG0SUB, and hit enter03:13
wysomerville32: Ok. Wait... I'll try to crash it again first...03:13
LDZ420I am trying to create small databases for my local machine only do I need the client/server apps with MySql?03:13
un_operateur1theres a reason why you dont log into root by default03:13
nothlitun_operateur1, a lot of people don't know how to use cp/mv03:13
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, hmm .. strange03:14
n2diyg0tw00d, open a terminal, and enter sudo nautilus03:14
g0tw00dwhat is the reason explain plz03:14
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nothlitun_operateur1, for some it would be safer to stick with the gui03:14
Ljhello03:14
g0tw00di get som kinda error when i do that03:14
whyameyeBillyBober09: so you are saying that before it wasn't using all of the screen and now it is but the resolution is still 640x480?03:14
nothlitn2diy, never use sudo with a graphical application03:14
slyboots_Okay, I've installed linux32, but it still wont let me install mplayer (Same error message, not for this computer type AMD64)03:14
Ljsomebody speak spanish??03:14
wastrelsudo nautilus is bad because it makes your desktop file thinger root non?03:14
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: i never used this telinit before so i can't tell if it ever worked. is there no other way to force the rmmod of this module?03:14
carutsui do03:14
wastrel!es | lj03:14
ubotulj: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:14
un_operateur1nothlit, I dont know why you'd get yourself into a messy situation that warrants using sudo ..03:14
whyameyenothlit: why not use sudo with a graphical app?03:14
carutsuyo hablo espan~ol03:14
g0tw00dim the only one usign this pc its in my house03:15
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g0tw00dwhy would it matter if i open my file browser in sudp?03:15
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n2diynothlit: most of the stuff you can run from a menu, you can run from the command line as sudo.03:15
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g0tw00dim not arguing im asking why? :)03:15
un_operateur1if you play by linux rules, you dont ever need to use sudo unless you want to administer the system03:15
nothlitun_operateur1, people sometimes need to install plugins, or configs and themes system-wide03:15
BillyBober09whyameye, yes its using most of the screen except for now because I hit the Fn but plus F5. Yes resoultion still same03:15
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, ok -- try this -- sudo su -03:15
un_operateur1what happens then?03:15
ktogiasg0tw00d, it is totally insecure03:15
ubuni can't paste any text inside of vim running in putty! any idea why03:15
nothlitwhyameye, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo03:16
wastrelubun:  putty in windows?03:16
un_operateur1nothlit, yea, its only then when you really require super user privs ..03:16
whyameyeBillyBober09: and you tried going to system -> prefs -> screen resolution agaon?03:16
g0tw00donly if the guys sits infront of my pc....no?03:16
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: sudo su rmmod vmnet?03:16
ubunwastrel putty in ubuntu03:16
wastrelubun:  putty uses right-click paste i think by default in 'doze03:16
ubunin gnome03:16
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un_operateur1no FernandoCordes just   sudo su -03:16
LDZ420What is a module mean?03:16
ubuntunow i try but nothing with sudo03:16
baconbaconubun, ctrl+shift+v ?03:16
BillyBober09whyameye, yes already said that03:16
wastrelok, putty in 'nix uses middle-click as paste by default.03:16
nothlita lot of times you need to do something system wide, as in for every user profile03:16
ubunbaconbacon doesnt work either03:16
wastrelor shift-insert mebby i dunno never used putty on 'doze03:16
DARKGuyHey, I have a dual monitor setup here: PCI & AGP cards. PCI one is the one at boot and thus the one in which the Linux terminals are in. I wonder, how can I avoid the secondary monitor (AGP card) to stop flashing grey blocks (which I'm told that's harmful for both the monitor and the card) and just go black like my older Ubuntu install which didn't used to do that?03:16
Jordan_U_!fixres | BillyBober0903:16
ubotuBillyBober09: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:16
ubunmiddle clicking isnt working either, nothing is03:17
n2diyg0tw00d, and your not online.03:17
dooglusall my virtual terminals are brightly coloured random noise03:17
g0tw00dwhats teh have to do with it?03:17
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dooglus(in edgy, with an ATI X1600 card)03:17
g0tw00dim typing a command, to open file manager03:17
whyameyeBillyBober09: I'm asking if you went back to that dialog AFTER making these changes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:17
g0tw00dthen i close it when done03:17
doogluswhat can I do to fix them?03:17
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g0tw00dhow does that make me insecure?03:17
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: ok- now?03:17
un_operateur1nothlit, in exactly what situations do you need to make system wide changes to user profiles?? that too by using a sudoed nautilus??03:17
nothlitDARKGuy, lol you're helping and asking?03:17
carutsuhey have wnyone heard of bad battery support? i mean if i unplug my laptop it thinks that has no batery left03:17
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, did that work??03:17
carutsu*no power left03:17
theonceandfutureIs there a way to shut off GNOME's desktop icons03:17
carutsuso it hibernates03:18
DARKGuynothlit: Well >.> that didn't used to happen to me before so xD03:18
levanderAnybody else using Thunderbird, when you go to Tools -> Message Filters, does Thunderbird crash for you?03:18
dooglusLDZ420: a module is a part of the kernel which can be loaded at any time03:18
Stormx2theonceandfuture: Yeah. Check in gconf-editor03:18
theonceandfutureok03:18
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baconbaconcarutsu: did it always do that?03:18
ubuntuubutu03:18
nothlitun_operateur1, people can install themes, edit vnc.config, lots of things that they may not be comfortable doing in the command line03:18
carutsuyep03:18
levanderSomebody can try it and tell me if it crashes for them?03:18
ubuntusu03:18
carutsunever recogniced very good the bateries03:18
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nothlitun_operateur1, menus entries03:18
Jordan_U_g0tw00d: It doesn't on it's own, it is just that many people forget to close it or simply leave it open out of convienience, which is insecure03:18
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: yes :-) its unloaded. where is the difference btw sudo su and sudo?03:18
n2diylevander: I'm using T-Bird, and I don't have any problems with my filters, or anything else.03:18
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: thx a lot03:18
ubuntusudo03:18
wysomerville32: crashed again!03:18
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wysomerville32: Now my disk is in AHCI mode03:19
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, :) I think telinit was failing there03:19
baconbaconcarutsu: What's your laptop model? Maybe he has a non-standard acpi03:19
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ubuntuman this difference03:19
levandern2diy: I tell you, both Thunderbird and Firefox seem not as stable as before I upgraded.03:19
wysomerville32: I'll try again...03:19
sud0kids03:19
FernandoCordesubuntu: stop spamming around. if you want to ask ubotu things type !(command)03:19
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carutsummm Acer TravelMate 406003:19
g0tw00di agree for my server room yes03:19
g0tw00dthis is my house03:19
levandern2diy: The flash plugin I think is crashing Firefox occasionally.03:19
wizardHey all.  I have a very common question.  WMV files won't play correctly in mplayer.  I've followed a couple of tutorials, but none of them seem to do the trick.  could someone advice?03:19
ubuntuFernando i'm not spamming03:19
g0tw00dnoone usign it unless i tellt hem too03:19
dooglus!virtual terminals03:19
nothlitFernandoCordes, sudo su uses su, which uses root variables and isn't logged by sudo03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virtual terminals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:19
ubuntuFernando are you good03:19
dooglus!vt03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:19
ubuntuFernando are you drinking03:19
n2diylevander: when did you upgrade? I'm sitting on eight of them.03:19
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Jordan_U_!botspam03:20
carutsubaconbacon: Acer Travelmate 40603:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botspam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
ubuntubecouse i ask before how to turn on03:20
carutsu!bateries03:20
ubunturoot privilegies on Ubunut03:20
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levandern2diy: I upgraded to edgy about 2/3 weeks ago.  You're sitting on 8 of what?03:20
nothlit!w32codecs | wizard03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bateries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
ubotuwizard: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:20
ubuntuUbuntu and it told me that i can't03:20
LjL!msg the bot03:20
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)03:20
wizardnothlit, thanks.  I'll check those out right now.03:20
FernandoCordesnothlit: some kind of stronger root access?03:20
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ubuntuand i have directory that say permission denied03:20
nothlitwizard, lot at w32codecs03:20
n2diylevander: That could be, I tried to install flash plug ins here, and it killed my box.03:20
ubuntuhow can i enter in this directory.03:20
theonceandfuturecool I got the gconf-editor to do it for me. But why isnt there an icon for it in the SYSTEMS menu?03:20
un_operateur1sudo su  is logged by syslog03:21
levandern2diy: you're sitting on 8 of what?03:21
ubuntuFernando don't spam and told me.03:21
n2diylevander: Well your living on the edgy, these things will happen.03:21
carutsuhey by removing libgnome does it remove the option to load a GNOME sesion?03:21
slyboots_Speaking of media.. I still cant install mplayer from the resource packager, It just cries about the fact Im running on a 64bit OS03:21
wysomerville32: It doesn't crash now... compatible mode ...03:21
un_operateur1and sudo su is different to sudo su - .. the former maintains your env .. the latter uses roots03:21
nothlitFernandoCordes, not really, just switches home folders really (which annoyingly will use a different profile), and it doesn't get logged, which is not good03:21
angel12hey guys, ive got a question on gnome/beryl. i just installed beryl today (my ati card didnt work until the new drivers) and when im using XGL, all the window decorations look old, as if no config files for the buttons got moved over03:21
ubuntuFernandoCordes hey don't spam.Told the answer.03:21
jvaiheey, how do i lock the home folder in dapper?, or lock folders in my home dir?03:21
cmwebljl, is mysql_connect a mod of some sort, one that does not come with the ther packages?03:21
slyboots_I tried to install that linux32 libraries but.. does not seem to have done anything03:21
LjLun_operateur1: still, "sudo -s" and "sudo -i" respectively accomplish either thing quite nicely03:21
DARKGuyHey, I have a dual monitor setup here: PCI & AGP cards. PCI one is the one at boot and thus the one in which the Linux terminals are in. I wonder, how can I avoid the secondary monitor (AGP card) to stop blinking grey blocks (which I'm told that's harmful for both the monitor and the card) and just go black like my older Ubuntu install which didn't used to do that?03:22
n2diylevander: Update is telling me I have eight of them waiting for me, two of them are kernels! Why would I want to install two new kernels?03:22
untony2w00t03:22
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carutsuno its more likely 2 patcher03:22
carutsupatches03:22
un_operateur1Ljl -- yes03:22
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sud0wickedly_cool: & u r03:22
Jordan_U_angel12: Beryl does not use your gnome themes by default, use emerald theme manager to change themes03:22
LjLcmweb, mysql_connect() is just one function in the mysql API for php. it should come with the php mysql module, for all i know. not sure why it doesn't work - perhaps you need an include statement, though i don't on the web server i use03:22
baconbaconcarutsu: http://groups.google.ca/group/ubuntulinux/browse_thread/thread/4944db2281697b8/f09baad106478b9403:22
ubuntuN2dsy man becouse they are new kernels03:23
jvaiheey, i have a question: how do i lock the home folder in dapper?, or lock folders in my home dir?03:23
slyboots_Quite funny hearing that from someone called "wickedly_cool"03:23
slyboots_Was "Acid_Burn" taken?03:23
wickedly_coollol03:23
angel12Jordan_U_, even when i use metacity in XGL the buttons are horrid03:23
carutsuthank you baconbacon03:23
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slyboots_What was the name of the other guy in that film?03:23
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ubuntuyou need to update them03:23
slyboots_Zero_cool or some crap?03:23
wickedly_cooln00bzz03:23
un_operateur1Crash_Override?? :>03:23
cmwebljl, well maby this will help. Im installing Zpanel know anything about it, its the beta version03:23
slyboots_Yea! that was it03:23
wizardxD nothlit I love how it's illegal for Ubuntu to host the files, but they can direct you to them.03:23
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ubuntuyou are noobs03:23
cmwebljl, i have php-mysql installed03:24
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carutsuthen leaver03:24
carutsuleave03:24
ubuntuhow to leave03:24
nothlitwizard, well its more that ubuntu is free, and some places people can't access those files03:24
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slyboots_Anyway, Back to work :(03:24
ubuntufor example root privilegies03:24
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slyboots_Still cant figure out how to get mplayer to install..03:24
nothlit!repos > slyboots_03:25
un_operateur1aptitude install mplayer03:25
wizardOh.  Well, I'm just happy they are available.03:25
nothlit!synaptic > slyboots_03:25
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slyboots_It wont install because Im using the AMD64 release of Ubuntu, It must only want to install on 32bit machines03:25
claudiohi...i've a problem with my adsl modem "trust speedlink 235a": if i try to connect to internet it doesn't work... so i restart in windows and i connect to internet....then i restart in ubuntu and connection works. what can i do?03:25
carutsubaconbacon wow you found exactly the topic03:25
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n2diyubuntu, why, one of the kernels isn't even appropriate for my box!03:25
slyboots_I installed that "Linux32" package but it still wont install the mplayer package03:25
un_operateur1IIRC there is an AMD64 release of mplayer03:26
carutsubaconbacon: however i think i wont patch my kernel i'm still afraid of03:26
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slyboots_In the package list?03:26
Jordan_U_LinuxSuks: Please spam elsewhere03:26
un_operateur1hold on searching ..03:26
claudioah i have ubuntu 6.1003:26
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baconbaconban ban ban03:26
Jordan_U_!ops03:26
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!03:26
slyboots_Jeez, what a child..03:26
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fiveironuh... ok, uname -r returns "2.6.17-10-386" ... so what would my "apt-get source" line be to install the kernel source??03:26
baconbaconcarutsu, a quick fix is to disable hibernate on low battery03:26
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cmwebLinuxSuks, please keep your commecnts to your self unless you wana fight03:27
tonyyarussoJordan_U_: Looks like he took care of himself largely03:27
claudiohi...i have ubuntu 6.10 and i've got a problem with my adsl modem "trust speedlink 235a": if i try to connect to internet it doesn't work... so i restart in windows and i connect to internet....then i restart in ubuntu and connection works. what can i do?03:27
fiveironi've tried everything i can think and none of it works03:27
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nothlit!find source03:27
ubotuFound: bf-utf-source, gcc-4.1-source, kdepim-kresources, libgtksourceview-common, libgtksourceview-dev (and 129 others)03:27
fiveiron!find kernel source03:27
ubotuFound: kernel-package, kernel-wedge, klogd, nfs-kernel-server, nvidia-kernel-common (and 70 others)03:27
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carutsubaconbacon: i will, however i think i might try to fix it in the near future03:27
eddie_hi03:27
fiveiron!find kernel-source03:27
ubotuFound: cpad-kernel-source, kernel-source-2.4.27, wacom-kernel-source, vmware-player-kernel-source, avm-fritz-kernel-source (and 3 others)03:27
Stormx2claudio: You connecting via ethernet to your modem?03:27
eddie_how can I uninstall gnome03:27
cmwebis LinuxSuks registered?03:27
un_operateur1hmm -- I cant seem to find the 64 bit version of mplayer anymore -- maybe it was phased out03:27
fiveiron2.4.27??03:27
slyboots_Can I not just install the 32bit version?03:28
FernandoCordeshow can i fsck my / fs ?03:28
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wizardnothlit, after the wget and dpkg to install w32codecs, I still can't play WMV.  I followed the link for (if you still can't play WMV click here) and then followed those instructions.  That didn't work either.  Any more ideas?03:28
LjLUbotu, tell FernandoCordes about fsck | FernandoCordes, see the private message from Ubotu03:28
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un_operateur1slyboots_, it should work03:28
cmwebdamn, LinuxSuks is not03:28
Stormx2slyboots_: On a 64-bit machine? Yes.03:28
claudiono...it's an usb modem...i know that ubuntu has problems with usb modems03:28
slyboots_Yea, but it wont install it03:28
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un_operateur1FernandoCordes, man fsck03:28
slyboots_"This package is not designed for this system blah blah.."03:28
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augustin_what's the alternative of service network or /etc/init.d network on Ubuntu???03:28
Stormx2claudio: Ah. i could never hook mine up.03:28
Stormx2claudio: Your best bet is ubuntuforums.org03:28
un_operateur1slyboots_, you could try building from source03:28
augustin_what's the alternative of service network or /etc/init.d/network on Ubuntu???03:28
wizardnothlit, wait.  I understand now.  Some of the WMVs must be corrupted.  I found one that works.  Thanks for the help.03:28
nothlitfiveiron, linux-source-2.6.17 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.17 with Ubuntu patches03:29
slyboots_I guess, Bah..03:29
wimsdoes it exist a dvd image with the latest ubuntu version ?03:29
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nothlitwizard, you could also install vlc, might work03:29
un_operateur1augustin_, you mean the service command??03:29
cmwebljl, any ideas ive run to my last resort03:29
nothlitwims, yes, look in the extra/additional downloads03:29
augustin_un_operateur1: yep03:29
claudioStormx2... i've tried....but i don't know what to do03:29
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claudiocan u help me?03:29
untony2w00t03:29
BillyBober09whyameye, that didnt work can u give me those intructions agian please03:29
Stormx2claudio: I'll try.03:29
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untony2claudio was problem?03:29
LjLcmweb, honestly - i'm kind of drunk and confused =) so no03:29
claudiook thanks03:30
FernandoCordesLjL, un_operateur1 thx03:30
cmwebljl, thats a first03:30
un_operateur1augustin_, errm .. i'm not sure -- i have it tho  --03:30
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un_operateur1ls -l `which service`03:30
un_operateur1-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2275 2006-11-09 01:54 /usr/sbin/service03:30
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deepoops03:30
LjLcmweb: hey, nerds sometimes go to the pub too :P not very often, but still03:30
claudiouh untony...i have ubuntu 6.10 and i've got a problem with my usb adsl modem "trust speedlink 235a": if i try to connect to internet it doesn't work... so i restart in windows and i connect to internet....then i restart in ubuntu and connection works. what can i do?03:30
baconbaconwims: I don't think it would be very useful, the distro fits on a cd and the universe repository is too big for a dvd03:30
augustin_un_operateur1: bash: service: command not found03:31
cmwebljl, well i havent set one drug in my body nor nicotine and proud of it03:31
untony2claudio: you got it working alreadY?03:31
carutsui'll be back in a minute03:31
wimsnothlit no dvd in alternat as far as i can see03:31
untony2claudio: you wrote then i restart in ubuntu and connection works03:31
n2diyclaudio: looks like you found the right recipe.03:31
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claudioit works in ubuntu only if i restart in windows first03:31
un_operateur1augustin_, I've got a perl script that does the equiv of service .. would you like it?03:31
BillyBober09whyameye, u there?03:31
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nothlitwims, i'll give you a link, gimme a sec03:31
TonrenGuys, I have a horrible urgent problem and need help03:31
somerville32wy: Must have been a fluke?03:31
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cmwebclaudio ubuntu may not know how to operate it03:31
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Stormx2claudio: Thats kinda odd...03:32
cmwebclaudio try a linux driver03:32
TonrenI left my computer on until the battery ran out and it tried to hibernate, and now I can't boot into Linux03:32
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TonrenI'm on Windows ont he same laptop right now (I dual-boot)03:32
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wysomerville32: What does fluke mean?03:32
_goofy_im having problems with changing premissions on a usb HDD03:32
untony2claudio: you may have to recompile the modules in the kernel to make it working03:32
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slyboots_Anyone heard of this "Automatrix" program for Ubuntu?03:32
claudioyes....connection works only if i connect in windows first03:32
TonrenWhen I try to mount the Linux partition in Windows with Ext2FS, I get a "This drive is not formatted error"03:32
Stormx2wy: a fluke is an unlikely event03:32
_goofy_anyone have and thought03:32
baconbacon!Automatix03:32
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:32
augustin_un_operateur1: I just want to restart network service:) but if you want, you may send it to augustin.machacek et gmail dot com :)03:32
cmwebclaudio it really sounds as if ubuntu does not know how to dial the modem03:32
TonrenIt was giving me Error 0x40 when I ran without quiet splash03:32
Stormx2I'm off to bed...03:32
claudiothe problem is that seems that my modem needs to be initialised by windows in order to work03:33
Stormx2Night night all.03:33
augustin_un_operateur1: I'll take a look at it:)03:33
somerville32wy: by chance03:33
slyboots_Thanks baconbacon03:33
TonrenSomeone PLEASE help, this is completely awful and I badly need to fix it right away.03:33
un_operateur1augustin_, i got a better idea -- here's the original service command  http://pastebin.ca/28069303:33
Stormx2claudio: have you got it all set up in System > Administration > Networking?03:33
wysomerville32: I wonder if my Windows XP can start in the AHCI mode...03:33
Stormx2Night all.03:33
claudioi'm neu to linux world....please tell me what to do03:33
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fiveironcan anyone tell me how to install the kernel source for 2.6.17-10-386?03:33
augustin_un_operateur1: well, tnx03:33
cmwebclaudio, best bet is to check the fourms03:33
wysomerville32: I'll reboot to see ... see you!03:33
claudiostormx2 no...it's usb...so nothing to do in dhcp03:33
TonrenC'mon guys... this is SO urgent03:33
somerville32wy: see ya :)03:34
un_operateur1augustin_, you know what to do with it?03:34
TonrenIt was hanging on /scripts/premount03:34
khaije1i was researching a way to organize data a little while ago and i found an interesting app but i can't remember the name of it anymore... it had to do with adding tags to files for extra organization, anyone heard of something like this?03:34
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claudioi've just read the forumcmweb03:34
_goofy_ho do i change premissions on a usb hdd with a vfat file system to be able to read/write no matter im root user or "other"03:34
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augustin_un_operateur1: save it, run it:)03:34
cmwebclaudio, any thing on it?03:34
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Stormx2claudio: Okay. Well have a look anyway.03:34
claudiono03:34
claudio:(03:34
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un_operateur1errm .. save it in $PATH .. chmod +x ..03:34
Stormx2claudio: There should be more options than DHCP03:34
cmwebclaudio, or check the manufacurers site for a  driver03:34
claudiothere's not a driver03:34
claudiofor ubuntu03:35
claudio:(03:35
Stormx2But for linux?03:35
robert_bah03:35
n2diyclaudio: if your new to linux, why are you running bleeding edge software, 6.10? 6.06 is the current stable version.03:35
robert_I can't compile an smp ubuntu kernel03:35
claudiouh really n2diy?03:35
augustin_un_operateur1: I just want to try restarting network service.. if it helps me tu start firewall:)03:35
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cmwebclaudio, try for dabean03:35
drkmLjL: I see why you chose KDE03:35
n2diyrobert: did you try synaptic? I've had no trouble with SMP on this box.03:35
drkmLjL: there have been a lot of changes since I last used it03:36
un_operateur1augustin_, /etc/init.d/network restart   should do03:36
n2diyclaudio: yes, really.03:36
claudioso? no solutions? :(03:36
TonrenC'mon guys.  Someone PLEASE help with this.  I left my laptop on and it ran out of batteries and must have tried going into hibernate.  When I rebooted, it hung on Starting /scripts/pre-mount, so I popped in a live CD and my swap partition was no longer properly formatted.  I reformatted it as linux-swap but it's still not booting, and hanging in the same place.03:36
TonrenSomeone PLEASE help out.  This seriously sucks, this is a code red holy shit emergency.03:36
augustin_un_operateur1: bash: /etc/init.d/network: No such file or directory03:36
un_operateur1augustin_, btw -- the package that houses  /usr/sbin/service is   sysvconfig03:37
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BillyBober09whyameye, where are you'03:37
cmwebTonren, hardrive may be broken03:37
robert_it complains about /lib/modules/2.6.17.13-ubuntu1/modules.dep not existing03:37
cmwebTonren, due to the crash03:37
un_operateur1/etc/init.d/networking restart    sorry :p03:37
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FernandoCordesun_operateur1: could you help me rebuilding my grub?03:37
LjLdrkm: well, that goes for GNOME as well to be fair... and i also find KDE looks horrible by default =) http://ljl.byethost14.com/annotatedkde.png is more like what i set my KDE to look (the post-it colors make it a bit ugly, but still ;)03:37
augustin_un_operateur1: I am installing that package03:37
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, you dual booting ??03:37
un_operateur1augustin_,  :)03:37
claudioi don't know what to do....maybe i should change the firmware03:37
claudio!?03:37
Tonrencmweb: It's not *broken*, I'm sure, because I booted up onto the same laptop in Windows03:38
wysomerville32: too bad. Windows XP can't boot now03:38
cmwebTonren, how big is the drive?03:38
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: i tried installing windows over my linux03:38
Tonrencmweb: 80GB03:38
drkmI upgraded my NVIDIA drivers to the newest module. The driver works fine for the session, but after I restart the PC I get an error and xwindows doesn't load, for it to work again I have to reinstall the driver.. the error I get is: API mismatch: NVIDIA kernel module has the ver 1.0-7189 but this x module has ver 1.0-9631, make sure the kernel module & nv driver have same version... what should I do?03:38
somerville32wy: hehe. Enter the command "delete windows, please!" <g>03:38
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, and did that succeed?03:38
cmwebTonren, same size as mine. How many portions are on it?03:38
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FernandoCordesun_operateur1: no it didnt03:39
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g0tw00dwhy would u delete it03:39
Tonrencmweb: It's partitioned 60GB ext3, 5GB ext3, 512MB linux-swap and about 15GB NTFS03:39
jvaitonren, try fixing it thru the bootmenu list, as soon as u see grub loading, u may be able to fix the kernel thru that.. i'm not sure03:39
nonickI am tryingt too change to Xubuntu how can i uninstall gnome desktoip?03:39
Tonrenjvai: I tried booting into single, or with profile, but it isn't working03:39
Tonrenjvai: It's still hanging on premount03:39
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g0tw00dyou take away the retarded windows users and its a damn good os03:39
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, it has always been better to install windows first since it assumes that the entire HDD belongs to it03:39
TonrenIt gives me "error 0x40"03:39
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: i allready tried to rebuild it using the grub super disc -. i have my grub boot menu back now but when i select my ubuntu in it, it crashes while the splash is 2 seconds there03:39
n2diyFernandoCordes: , that is a bad recipe, it best to install Winderes first, and then linux. Winderes doesn't like sharing the hard drive with other OSs.03:39
cmwebTonren, why do you need two linux drives?03:39
fiveirondoes someone have a second to help me get a serial port IR receiver working in Ubuntu?03:39
drkmLjL: yeah it does need a few tweaks. are those post-it nodes part of the theme or for illustration? lol03:39
_goofy_fdisk -l should give me a list of all my drives......right03:39
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: i seen that03:39
wysomerville32: Oh, no03:39
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claudioah.....how can i write in a ntfs partition? i can just read it03:39
Tonrencmweb: One for / one for /home03:40
drkmnodes = notes03:40
somerville32wy: <g>03:40
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somerville32wy: #windows might be able to help you get Windows to boot03:40
cmwebTonren, you really use that much on the desktop?03:40
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, i'm not too strong on grub .. let me try and find something for you03:40
FernandoCordesn2diy: yea i ripped winddddderes off after it destroyed my grub03:40
Tonrencmweb: I really don't need a lecture on partition philosophy right now03:40
LjLdrkm: they do come from a standard KDE applet... but i don't normally use those, i only used them for illustration. if i used them normally, i'd certainly change the colors ;) (yes they can be changed)03:40
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: i allready looked up in the wiki but that didn't help03:40
FernandoCordestried several things from it03:40
n2diygotta go 73 all03:40
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claudiohow can ubuntu write in a ntfs partition? i can just read it03:41
FernandoCordesn2diy: cya03:41
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GalaeronHey guys, thanks for the awesome help. I got xchat up and running03:41
wastrel!ntfs03:41
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:41
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cmwebTonren, ok i know im loly gaging as usual, maby try installing again, sometimes it does not do right the first time03:41
nonickwait a minute... so there isn't a way to get rid off gnome-desktop in straight up way?03:41
drkmLjL: lol.. do you like to stand out by any chance? :p03:41
wastrelnonick:  uninstall a core gnome component and it should pull everything out with it (?)03:42
dominussuusI have a question about the upgrade release polices for Ubuntu.  Say that in a release upgrade from, say, Dapper to Edgy there is a regressive bug in one of the packages.  If that bug is subsequently fixed in the next version of that package, how come I have to wait until Feisty to get the fix?03:42
Tonrencmweb: Dude, I installed it 8 month sago!!!!03:42
BillyBober09BillyBober09, hey03:42
LjLdrkm: define stand out03:42
nothlit!ntfs-3g | claudio03:42
ubotuclaudio: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)03:42
FernandoCordes!completegrubrenewalstepbystepwhileloggedintodestroyedsystem03:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about completegrubrenewalstepbystepwhileloggedintodestroyedsystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:42
cmwebTonren, you said its not booting re install03:42
drkmLjL: died black hair, black lipstick? red shoes?03:42
drkmlol03:42
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, how did you manage to install grub the second time around?03:42
DARKGuyHey, I have a dual monitor setup here: PCI & AGP cards. PCI one is the one at boot and thus the one in which the Linux terminals are in. I wonder, how can I avoid the secondary monitor (AGP card) to stop blinking grey blocks (which I'm told that's harmful for both the monitor and the card) and just go black or in power save mode?03:42
BillyBober09HELLO03:42
TonrenOK guys, I left my laptop on and it ran out of batteries and must have tried going into hibernate.  It wrote something bogus to my swap partition. When I rebooted, it hung on Starting /scripts/pre-mount, so I popped in a live CD to check with gparted and my swap partition was no longer properly formatted.  I reformatted it as linux-swap but it's still not booting, and hanging in the same place.03:42
BillyBober09A03:42
cmwebljl, whats going on03:42
LjL!bot abuse | FernandoCordes03:43
BillyBober09dunno03:43
ubotuFernandoCordes: Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot03:43
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un_operateur1lol03:43
un_operateur1:))03:43
FernandoCordes!botsnack :-(803:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsnack :-(8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:43
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FernandoCordes!botsnack03:43
ubotuYum!03:43
nothlit!grub > FernandoCordes03:43
BillyBober09ubotu what do you mean03:43
LjLdrkm: hey, i told you i would *not* normally use those colors for the notes! :P03:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about what do you mean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:43
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drkm:p03:43
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: with the SGD super grub disc03:43
cmwebubotu want a cookie for your hard work?03:44
BillyBober09ubotu, not sure what you are saying bro03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about want a cookie for your hard work? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about not sure what you are saying bro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:44
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cmwebBillyBober09 IS A BOT03:44
LjLUbotu, tell BillyBober09 about bot | BillyBober09, see the private message from Ubotu03:44
rajiv_nairhi:)03:44
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, and does windows boot well now?03:44
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cmwebsorry03:44
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cmwebBillyBober09, ubotu is a bot03:44
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: i ripped it off again03:44
BillyBober09c03:44
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: i decided to say goodbye to the game i wanted to play with it (red alert 2)03:45
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un_operateur1errm .. I dunno if it was ubuntu -- but i recall some distro capable of repairing the bootloader03:45
TonrenOh my god... can someone PLEASE help me out here?03:45
cmwebAny one know a good alternative to wine?03:45
_goofy_how do i mount a drive so i have read/write abilitys for owner, groupe, and "other"03:45
un_operateur1as an install mode03:45
BillyBober09cmweb,ok03:45
LjLdrkm: and for that matter i'm also not a fan of having a ton of icons on the desktop... still, i always end up like that somehow03:45
dominussuuscmweb - yeah, it's called Windows ;)03:45
hou5tonworking on trying to get my SD Card to show up in Edgy .... looking at forums, not quite understanding .... does someone here know what to do?03:46
BillyBober09cmweb, wierdtho03:46
cmwebdominussuus, windows is shit03:46
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nonickwastrel: what would be a Gnome core program?03:46
dominussuuscmweb - seriously, there's nothing to my knowledge03:46
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_goofy_how do i mount a drive so i have read/write abilitys for owner, groupe, and "other"03:46
cmwebdominussuus i cant get into it any more due to the damn viruses in it     Not one on this03:46
dominussuuscmweb - there's crossover office, which is wine with benefits03:46
nonickcmweb:  I completely agree that m$$ is a piece of sheeeat03:46
BillyBober09ubo03:46
jvainonick - devhelp?03:46
drkmLjL: lol. yep I know what you mean.. now I've installed KDE I am going to have to spend hours fiddling with fonts and colours *sigh*03:46
BillyBober09ubotu, i need help03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i need help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
dominussuuscmweb - but you have to pay for crossover03:47
robert_does the amd64 version of ubuntu come with smp support in the kernel?03:47
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BillyBober09ubotu, how do i fix my resolution03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about how do i fix my resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
rajiv_nair!ubotu | billybober0903:47
ubotubillybober09: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:47
nnanyone gotten winamp 5 to work in wine?03:47
cmwebdominussuus, crossover?03:47
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robert_does anybody know here?03:47
nnIm running windows in emulator just to use window..03:47
TonrenOK guys, I left my laptop on and it ran out of batteries and must have tried going into hibernate.  It wrote something bogus to my swap partition. When I rebooted, it hung on Starting /scripts/pre-mount, so I popped in a live CD to check with gparted and my swap partition was no longer properly formatted.  I reformatted it as linux-swap but it's still not booting, and hanging in the same place.03:47
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dominussuuscmweb - it's called crossover office, Google it03:47
LjLdrkm: well, some hints... if fonts look a bit on the blurry side, go to System Settings / Appearance / Fonts / Configure anti-aliasing and select Full hinting rather than Medium03:48
un_operateur1FernandoCordes,  what Os you on now?03:48
un_operateur1OS03:48
nnTonren: hold one sec03:48
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: buntu03:48
angel12robert_, it might, you might just want to stick with the i386 version though, 64bit is still full of some little problems, like no flash players, little media codecs03:48
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dominussuuscould anyone here explain to me post-release updates?03:48
nnTonren: my friend just fixed that yesterday, i callin n buggin him03:48
Tonrennn: Thanks!03:48
Henry_Hey Ubuntu isn't working at all for me.  I'm trying to install it on a partition on one of my computers.  I burn it exactly according to the burningisos guide on the site, but it still won't boot from the CD.  Any tips?03:48
cmwebdominussuus, are we talking free here?03:48
LjLdrkm: as for colors, remember that in Appearance / Colors, when you click on the color in "Widget Colors", you can use the color picker and pick a color from *anywhere* on the screens - so if you like you can pick colors from screenshots03:48
robert_angel12- then help me recompile to enable SMP03:49
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un_operateur1FernandoCordes, ok, two options -- option 1 -- install grub-disk on this system and write out the floppies .. use the floppies to boot other system -- startup and reinstall grub via update-grub03:49
dominussuuscmweb - unfortunately not, crossover is commercial... open source, but commercial03:49
angel12robert_, search synaptic for smp. what proc do you have?03:49
un_operateur1second option -- use buntu CD in rescue mode to rewrite grub03:49
LjLdrkm: and if you happen to like the top-of-the-screen menu bar, it's right click on the desktop -> Behavior -> "Mac OS style"03:50
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cmwebdominussuus, well that means i cant get it03:50
_goofy_how do i mount a drive so i have read/write abilitys for owner, groupe, and "other"03:50
LjLUbotu, tell _goofy_ about windowsdrives | _goofy_, see the private message from Ubotu03:50
angel12robert_, and i think that the stock kernel has SMP enabled03:50
cmweb!hi regeya03:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi regeya - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:50
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dominussuuscmweb - I think there's also a package that lets you install windows within linux03:50
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dominussuusso you can run windows like a program within linux03:50
robert_model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+03:51
LjLdominussuus: that's two different things03:51
dominussuusbut I can't remember what it's called03:51
cmwebdominussuus, im broke only 15 years old03:51
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FernandoCordesun_operateur1: ouai merci03:51
drkmLjL: genius! saved me about loads of time there! I love how fiddly KDE is, there seems like there is so much to it03:51
nnTonren: he said he just booted and mkswap'd the swap partition03:51
FernandoCordesun_operateur1: bcp03:51
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Tonrennn: I can't boot!!03:51
dominussuuscmweb - what are you trying to run?03:51
nnTonren: there's a kernel option to skip suspend, looking for it03:51
LjLdominussuus: if you want to *install windows withing linux*, you need an emulator / virtual machine. possibly choices are qemu or vmware (there's vmware-player in the repos)03:51
godtviskenWhen I record something in Audacity, there is a really high pitched ringing sound over it.. Any ideas what could be wrong?03:51
robert_and I want to turn cpu throttling off03:51
Tonrennn: Oooh sweet03:51
cmwebdominussuus, this ubuntu03:51
robert_that's lame for my system03:51
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LjLdominussuus: if you want to just use [some]  Windows applications inside your X destkop, like they were X applications, you want WINE03:51
dominussuusLjL - is it vmware that does that?03:51
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Tonrennn: I am furious that this happened.  Low-power hibernate should NOT toast the swap partition!!!03:51
dominussuusLjL - I know, but cmweb's question was about wine alternatives03:52
tjb891does anyone know how to enlarge your ubuntu partitian undestructively?03:52
godtviskenWhen I record something in Audacity, there is a really high pitched ringing sound over it.. Any ideas what could be wrong?03:52
dominussuuscmweb - I know this is ubuntu, so I'm asking why you're looking for a wine alternative - what are you trying to run that Wine can't handle?03:52
cmwebljl, wine is not always good03:52
LjLdominussuus: well the alternatives are WINE, Cedega (these are APIs, so applications run inside your X), QEmu, VMware (these are virtual machines)03:52
FernandoCordestjb891: i only got destructive experiences with that issue03:52
Tophi have a question: i have 2 hard drives on my computer, one with linux which i boot from and the other with windows, I want to access the files from the windows HD (hda1) but the drive doesn't show up anywhere. How do i access it? i have tried mounting it, but have failed03:52
un_operateur1FernandoCordes, no agradecerme todavia  :)03:53
LjLcmweb: no it isn't. but to get something better, you actually need to install a full-blown Windows on an emulator like vmware03:53
cmwebdominussuus, diablo2, redaler2, Flight Simulator, and a slew of others03:53
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nnTonren: trying to find it03:53
khaije1LjL: dominussuus: Xen also, if yr lucky enough to have a new-ish processor03:53
LjLcmweb: forget the "seamlessness" of WINE then, though03:53
nnTonren: well.. it hibernates to the swap partition03:53
nnTonren: only safe place to do it to, really03:53
LjLkhaije1: doesn't Xen needs modified version of guest OSs?03:53
LjL(and nevermind my "s"'s)03:53
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khaije1LjL: only if the cpu doesn't have h/w support built in, all new ones do (this may not be true yet, but soon)03:54
LjLkhaije1: i see... how "new" is new?03:54
hou5tonhelp with mounting the SD Memory Card .... here's what dmesg | tail gave:  [17180826.664000]  tifm_7xx1: demand removing card from socket 303:54
hou5ton[17180827.208000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 303:54
LjLi.e., what does the CPU need to have?03:54
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Tonrennn: Yeah, but it shouldn't have bricked my boot03:55
Tonrennn: I hate that hibernate support is so dismal03:55
Music_ShuffleYou use it?03:55
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nnTonren: it's pretty new code, honestly03:56
nnTonren: i can't seem to find the kernel option to tell it not to resume the suspend hrm03:56
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nnTonren: digging in suspend and kernel sources for ya, hang on03:57
LjLi'd love to use hibernation even though i don't have a laptop. but, hm, well. "perhaps next release" (as i've said for a year or so already ;)03:57
khaije1LjL: for amd it's called pacifica, for intel it's called vanderpool03:57
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TonrenLjL: don't bother until you hear it's perfect from a hundred people03:57
LjLkhaije1: hm, i'll try to keep those words in mind when i next look at CPUs03:57
TonrenLjL: Because right now, it's absolutely horrible03:57
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LjLTonren, well, it's not like i *never* tried it :)03:57
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cmwebany one know of a remote desktop that alows me to control windows Xp home, i need it becasue my friend is a dimwit03:58
mitchm1krdc does vnc and windows terminal?03:58
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LjLTonren: still it never stopped me from booting... at worst, it would hang on suspending or resuming03:58
khaije1LjL: they are basicaly different implimentations of the same spec, AMD's version is supposedly superior to intel's03:58
LjL!tsclient | cmweb03:58
ubotutsclient: front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.148-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 290 kB, installed size 1044 kB03:58
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LjLi think03:58
slyboots_Okay.. Cant compile Mplayer from Source either..03:59
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slyboots_Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h (see DOCS/HTML/en/faq.html).03:59
TonrenLjL: Yeah same here03:59
sonicGBcmweb: uh, that knob on the monitor that says "Brightness"... it doesn't make the user brighter :-/03:59
mitchm1anyone feel like helping me install edgy? as much as i like sitting in the live cd environment, it's not fun03:59
slyboots_There is nothing in the FAQ about that error though..03:59
TonrenLjL: This is exactly the reason I don't tell people to switch to LInux yet... :\03:59
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Music_ShufflesonicGB, LOL.03:59
LjLTonren: well most people who don't have laptops don't use hibernation in my experience anyway (except the ones i've told to...)04:00
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nnew04:00
mitchm1ubiquity hangs when i chose manually edit partitions. ubiquity uses 100% cpu, gparted doesn't actually launch although the ubiquity logs say it has04:00
un_operateur1slyboots_, have you read the INSTALL/README's for the source04:00
slyboots_Yup..04:00
TonrenLjL: I code a lot, so it's annoying to serialize my work session every time I have to take a break04:00
TonrenLjL: But I have to do it anyway because hibernate sux04:00
un_operateur1they usually tell you what dependencies you need to have installed prior to attempting this build04:00
tonyyarussomitchm1: I think that might be a known bug - I seem to remember seeing something of the sort while cruising Launchpad04:00
slyboots_There is no metnion of that error message, I've tried google as well.. all I find is people asking how to fix it.. :P04:00
LjLTonren: let me guess... you code in object oriented languages.04:01
mitchm1i had a look, and nothing seemed to fit exactly.. some said dosfck took 100% cpu or something04:01
TonrenLjL: Not exclusively04:01
Tonrennn: Any luck with that kernel boot option?04:01
un_operateur1slyboots_, you could install the build dependencies in unbuntu via   apt-get build-dep mplayer04:01
slyboots_It *wont* let me do that!04:01
mitchm1a log file i found (apport.log) says "executable does not belong to a package, ignoring"04:01
LjLTonren: well, "serialize" seemed to give that away :P04:01
un_operateur1mind the difference -- this is build-dep not install04:02
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slyboots_Sorry04:02
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TonrenLjL: Hahaha, I hadn't even noticed that I used the word in an unusual context04:02
slyboots_"Unable to find a source-package for mplayer"04:02
nnTonren: it seems it's actually handled by the initd that resume uses, i think04:03
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ski-worklap!beryl04:03
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl04:03
hou5tonok ... i got my laptop to mount the SD Memory Card with: sudo modprobe tifm_sd      .... how can I make my laptop auto mount a card whenever it insert one?04:03
Tonrennn: This sucks so furiously04:04
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nothlit!alternate > mitchm104:04
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FernandoCordesi need to compile a piece of code on a box that is not connected to the internet. how can i get build-essential and all stuff onto it maintaining all dependencies?04:04
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un_operateur1apt-get build-dep mplayer  suggests i install about 30 packages ,,, i dunno why yours fails04:05
levanderFernandoCordes: build-essential and its dependencies are "probably" on the edgy distribution cd, change /etc/apt/source.list to point to the CD and install from there04:05
nnFernandoCordes: a ubuntu cd?04:05
Jordan_UFernandoCordes: sudo apt-get built-dep <package>04:05
mitchm1no chance i can launch a text mode installer from the desktop cd?04:05
FernandoCordesthanks guys04:06
levandermitchm1: you can use command line tools from a console, like aptitude and apt-get if that's what you're asking about04:06
un_operateur1desktop CD ??04:06
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nnah... I love my HackPuter04:06
levanderun_operateur1: what is your question?04:06
un_operateur1what is a desktop CD ?04:07
mitchm1levander: i want to install it from the live cd i have just downloaded, however gparted fails to start and ubiquity hangs. can i do a text install without re-downloading another 600 megs04:07
Jordan_Umitchm1: No, you need the alternate CD for that04:07
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slyboots_Are you on a 32bit system?04:07
mitchm1damn04:07
un_operateur1slyboots_, yes04:07
slyboots_Im not04:07
levanderun_operateur1: it's a CD that lets you run Ubuntu from the CD, or you can use it to install Ubuntu to your hard disk04:07
nnit used to be a "thin client" now it runs ubuntu off an 8gb USB thumbdrive raid 0 :P04:07
mitchm1wait, couldn't be coz i mounted a partition could it?04:07
Tonrennn: Any luck dude?04:07
un_operateur1slyboots_, I know -- but the command ought to work nonetheless04:07
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nothlitFernandoCordes, aptitude download packages, and then install them with dpkg04:07
levanderun_operateur1: how did you find freenode if you don't know what a desktop CD is?04:08
slyboots_Know what. F*** it04:08
nothlitFernandoCordes, otherwise,theres utilities like apt-zip04:08
slyboots_Its 3am in the freaking morning04:08
nothlit!apt-zip04:08
nnTonren: not yet :( hibernate wont work for me.. raid0 and usb thumbdrive room :\04:08
FernandoCordeslevander: will i find aircrack-ng on the edgy discs?04:08
ubotuapt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB04:08
slyboots_I'll just install 32bit ubuntu..04:08
un_operateur1levander, i was being sarcastic incase you're misreading me :)04:08
un_operateur1lol04:08
slyboots_It would save a lot of hassle I think04:08
nothlit!minimalcd | mitchm104:08
nnIt's kinda crazy having my root fs on a thumbdrive, but neat04:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about minimalcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:08
slyboots_I had the same problems with Windows :P04:08
ce_indigohuy04:08
levanderFernandoCordes: probably not, i believe aircrack-ng is in the universe repository, which won't be on the CD04:08
un_operateur1slyboots_, you could try a different player maybe?04:08
slyboots_God that wa a nightmare..04:08
nnI just take the thumbdrives + hub with me, and have a portable complete ubuntu04:08
slyboots_I like mplayer04:08
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slyboots_And this just seems like a warning of things to come ;)04:09
nnslyboots_: me tooo04:09
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nothlit!minimal | mitchm104:09
ubotumitchm1: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:09
levanderun_operateur1: people are already clueless enough in this channel, no sarcasm needed here04:09
FernandoCordesnothlit: where can i find the packages downloaded with aptitude download?04:09
nothlitFernandoCordes, in whatever directory you were at the time04:09
FernandoCordesok04:09
nothlit!apt-zip | FernandoCordes04:09
FernandoCordesthx04:09
ubotuapt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB04:09
slyboots_Mplayer (When it installs..) does what its told and plays pretty much any format under the sun04:09
un_operateur1levander, no harm done -- you just misinterpreted the context in which i asked the question04:09
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cewe_sexy_bth_besemarang04:10
un_operateur1anyway -- a CD that lets you run Ubuntu from the CD --  is a live CD not a desktop CD04:10
slyboots_Its what my xbox uses, And god damn it does a good job of playing anything I throw at it04:10
nnTonren: my suggestion is boot off the live cd again, and mkswap /dev/hdaX where hdaX is the swap partition04:10
nothlitvlc, actually has more built in codecs btw, slyboots_04:10
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FernandoCordesnothlit: will !apt-zip also download all dependencies?04:10
nonickwhat's the package for Disable people? I need the Magnifier please04:10
nnslyboots_: xbox linux? :P04:10
slyboots_XMBC04:10
nonickdon't let disable poeple down04:10
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LjLFernandoCordes: /var/cache/apt/archives/ (nothlit: not unless they were source packages i think)04:11
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nothlitFernandoCordes, i'm not sure, but thats what most people would use if you did it normally04:11
ce_indigohuy04:11
nnnonick: it's GNOME Accessibility, lemme get a pkg name04:11
LjLFernandoCordes: it's supposed to do that... also you could try04:11
Jordan_Uun_operateur1: The reason they call their LiveCD a "desktop" CD is so as not to confuse old brezzy users where the LiveCD couldn't install04:11
LjL!offline | FernandoCordes04:11
ubotuFernandoCordes: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch04:11
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tonyyarussononick: I think you can also enable accessibility stuff from system > preferances04:11
nonicknn: I would appreciate that04:11
nothlitLjL, no, if you did --download-only, it would go in /var/cache... but with download it goes into working directory04:11
slyboots_Okay, Why the hell do I have to update my package list *every* time I open the package manager04:11
un_operateur1Jordan_U, ahh, i see .. that explains it :)04:11
nonicktonyyarusso: I am in Xubuntu, I want that package standalone04:11
slyboots_They cant have gone out of date in the *Few* seconds since I last closed the program04:11
TonrenOK guys, I left my laptop on and it ran out of batteries and must have tried going into hibernate.  It wrote something bogus to my swap partition. When I rebooted, it hung on Starting /scripts/pre-mount, so I popped in a live CD to check with gparted and my swap partition was no longer properly formatted.  I reformatted it as linux-swap but it's still not booting, and hanging in the same place.04:11
tonyyarussononick: ah, okay04:11
TonrenCan anyone help out?  I'm desperate.04:11
LjLnothlit: ah, nice04:12
nonickTonren: I am desperate too04:12
tonyyarussononick: gnome-mag - a screen magnifier for the GNOME desktop, xubuntu-at-mag - screen magnifying for Xubuntu04:12
TonrennonickWhat happened to you?04:12
nnAhH! beautiful04:12
nothlitTonren, you can delete the partition and recreate it04:12
slyboots_Not to brag, But I'm desperately good looking04:12
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slyboots_I thought I would just bring that up, since you mentioned it04:12
nonickohhhh WOW... tonyyarusso  at XFCE told me they don't have one o.004:12
Tonrennothlit: The bogus info will still be there, though04:13
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tonyyarussononick: apt-cache search knows the truth ;)04:13
tjb891do any of you run starcraft on ubuntu?04:13
Tonrennothlit: Deleting the partition just removes the formatting info.  The data remains.  :\04:13
Tonrentjb891: I do, it usually runs fine04:13
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nothlitTonren, you can zero the partition04:13
nonicktonyyarusso: thanks alot04:13
Tonrennothlit: Can I do that from gparted?04:13
un_operateur1"desperately good looking"   -- there could be a better choice of adjective :)04:13
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tjb891Tonren:how do you get it to recognise the CD after it installs with wine?04:13
Tonrennothlit: Or a live CD, or from Windows?04:13
nothlitfrom a livecd, and the command line04:14
Tonrentjb891: I think I ripped the ISO and mounted it with sudo mount -o loop04:14
nothliti messaged it to you because dd commands are dangerous04:14
tjb891ok04:14
tjb891ill do that04:14
tjb891and then i just have to use the unmount command when im done right?04:14
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drkmwhen setting the font 'fixed width' in the settings in kde/gnome, what does that actually set the font for?04:15
Tonrennothlit: Yeah, they can be weapons of mass destruction04:15
Tonrennothlit: Do the drives need to be MOUNTED for dd to be used?04:16
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nothlitno lol04:16
Tonrennothlit: Oh yeah; it CAN'T work if they're mounted04:16
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TonrenOK i'ma try that out, thanks04:16
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nothlitdrkm, for things like the terminal04:17
tjb891how do i enlarge my ubuntu partitian, I have a gpparted live cd04:17
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nothlitthe ubuntu livecd also has gparted on it, you know04:17
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tjb891yeah but gpparted won't let me make my ubuntu parition larger04:17
drkmnothlit: ahh ok.. do you know why the font list only contains about 5 fonts when all the other fonts you can set contain your whole list?04:17
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nothlitdrkm, i'm not sure what you mean04:18
nothlit!elaborate | dkrm04:18
ubotudkrm: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)04:18
ubuni installed all the multimedia stuff from the 'restrictedformat' docs on ubuntu.com but now my videos' sound is out of sync. is there a way to fix this? I tried 'mplayer -framedrop' but it doesnt fix it04:19
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sephironanyone use dell computer here04:19
ubunactually sounds starts out ok and by the middle or end of every movie it's way off04:19
drkmnothlit: say you were setting your 'Menu' font.. it contains all the fonts on your system that you can choose from.. but when setting 'Fixed Width' it only contains a limited selection of your fonts04:19
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nothlitdrkm, oh, thats because not all fonts are fixed width04:19
Halitechsephiron, I've got 1 that runs my server04:20
nothlitdrkm, most aren't actually04:20
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tjb891can anyone explain to be how to mount and unmount .iso images and if there is a gui to do this?04:20
nothlitdrkm, fixed width means all the letters are the same width, so with text, you can line stuff up for things like the terminal04:20
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drkmnotbbt: ahh ok that explains a lot, thanks04:20
drkmnothlit: above was for you.. damn auto complete04:21
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sephironHalitech:if i buy a dell computer,can i change its part such as ram and graphic crad04:21
sephironcard04:21
CrookedAsteriskrofl: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CrookedAsterisk04:21
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ubuncoulda told tjb891 but he had no patience :/04:22
godtviskenis there a simple recording program i could use to see if the problem is just with audacity or somewhere else?04:22
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ubungodtvisken: did you run alsamixer from the terminal and make sure your mic volume is up or whatever04:22
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STDCan somebody helpz me please D:04:22
Halitechsephiron, it will depend on what you actually buy, the one I have has everything onboard but does have a few PCI slots so I can disable some things and use addon cards but without knowing what machine you are thinking of, hard to say for sure04:22
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angel12hey guys, for some reason, when im running beryl, the icon set doesnt look right, it looks like an older version, not like human04:23
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HalitechSTD, I think the doctors have pills for most of your problems ;)04:23
fiveironis anyone using lirc?04:24
STDMy sound isn't giving me any bass x_X I tried going into the alsa mixer and making sure all the sliders were showing but there's nothing for base or treble D:04:24
STDLol :P04:24
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Halitechsorry STD< just being a smartass04:24
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baroslwhat donkey client do you use?04:24
nn#ubuntu gave me an std :|04:25
godtviskenubun: my mic works, but i get a high pitched ringing when i try to record in audacity04:25
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STD#ubuntu got my mom pregnant D:04:25
nothlit!ask | STD04:25
ubotuSTD: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:25
nothlit!language04:25
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:25
HalitechSTD, all other sound works?04:25
STDYeah sound works.04:25
STDI'm just not getting an bass D:04:25
STDOr if I am it's just a liiiittle bit.04:26
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nnSTD: no, that was me, sorry.04:26
STDLike, if I plug my ipod into my speakers with the sub on mininum that what it sounds like on here with the sub on maximum :P04:26
wastrelwhat's sub04:26
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STDsubwoofer >_>04:26
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nnanyone wanna donate me an mp3 player that uses a portable harddrive, so when i'm in afghanistan, i can kick it to some toonz?04:27
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rajiv_nair!donation04:27
ubotuTo donate to Ubuntu, you can !participate or go to http://www.ubuntu.com/donations04:27
rajiv_nairhehe04:27
rajiv_nair:D04:27
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HalitechSTD, not sure, I've never really used much sound on mine04:28
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STDGah I'm going to die without music D:04:28
nnrajiv_nair: I donate to ubuntu, in the form of my soon-to-be fully operational DoD CAC card package :)04:28
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rajiv_nairnn: nice:)04:28
nnrajiv_nair: yessa, i hacked up CoolKey to support the new CAC cards04:28
rajiv_nairnn: coool04:29
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sephironHalitech: if i bought a Dell pc that have PCI express card,can i change it later?04:29
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Halitechsephiron, if it's an addon card then I don't see why you wouldn't be able to change it later04:30
angel12do you guys have any idea what could be wrong with my theme settings in beryl?04:30
nnrajiv_nair: Yea, got tired of only windows CAC stuff :|04:30
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rajiv_nairangel12: ur theme settings are in emerald.not beryl:)04:30
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nnrajiv_nair: altho it seems i have to install windows on here and run ubuntu in colinux, so i can have winamp 504:31
niuwhere can i get the solution about ubuntu usplash?04:31
angel12rajiv_nair, i have looked in emerald, and changed things around, but the only thing that changes is the title bar04:31
Alakazamz0rhello all!04:31
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Alakazamz0rAnyone need any help, MSG me.04:31
Alakazamz0ri'll be happy to help04:31
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rajiv_nairangel12: goto system->preferences->themes04:31
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angel12rajiv_nair, ive done that too04:31
godtviskenUhm.04:31
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niuAlakazamz0r need help04:32
rajiv_nairangel12: wat xactly is the prob?? :D04:32
tjb891could anyone here please tell me how to resize me ubuntu partition with gpparted?04:32
niuAlakazamz0r i can't use the usplash screen in my edgy!04:32
godtviskennothlit: Since when did pregnancy become inappropriate?04:32
STDUhhhg I don't even have bass or treble control in alsamixer what the hell? Is this something wrong with my card?04:32
tonyyarussogodtvisken: Since it's not an ubuntu support question.04:32
tonyyarusso!offtopic04:32
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:32
angel12rajiv_nair, i dont really know how to explain it lol, the icon sets in the menu's arent what they are in regular x, not the ones for the human theme04:32
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tonyyarusso!pm | Alakazamz0r04:33
ubotuAlakazamz0r: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.04:33
rajiv_nairohh04:33
godtviskenanyways, I get a high pitched ringing noise when i try to record in audacity. what could be wrong? it was working before, i think before i updated to edgy04:33
rajiv_nairselect human theme in sys->pref->themes04:33
rajiv_nairclick on theme details04:33
rajiv_nairand select human from icon themes04:33
angel12rajiv_nair, ive done that, it still doesnt do anything04:33
jvaiheey, i have a question: how do i lock the home folder in dapper?, or lock folders in my home dir?04:34
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nnmpan: i envy you04:35
nnfinland's so pretty...04:36
rajiv_nairangel12: u sure that human is select as ur icon theme in theme details??04:36
un_operateur1jvai, lock folders?? to prevent access to them?04:36
angel12rajiv_nair, yeah, im sure04:36
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rajiv_nairangel12: on an xtra note...dwnld aero icon themes.......aero and vista sux..but the icons luk cool:D04:37
Capslock118do i need to do something special for x64 edgy and cedega?04:37
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Froggerhi does anybody have an idea why i can only start nfs on client by this command --> mount -a  <-- http://paste.debian.net/18487       04:38
rapidCapslock118, probably a 64 bit processor04:38
rajiv_nairlol04:38
niuneed help for the usplash!04:38
Froggerinstead of    mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/and so on and so  /and so on04:39
jvaiyes un_operateur1.. i hava pron folder.. & my gtirls usaing my box more & more.. lol04:39
TangBaBaCan someone point me  to a walkthough that might help me getting my video performance up to par? I can play games with decent detail and frame rate, but on linux everything crawls.04:39
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niuscreen init failed04:39
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cmwebDoes any one know of a program thats both windows and linux compatibal that allows remote control of desktops04:40
FroggerTangBaBa    grafic card?04:40
rapidTangBaBa, install the right driver for your gfx device04:40
TangBaBaI'm using a Radeon X30004:40
TangBaBaATI.04:40
un_operateur1jvai, make seperate  users for other people -- they wont be able to get into your home folder at all04:40
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Frogger!ati04:41
rajiv_nair!ATI | tangbaba04:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:41
ubotutangbaba: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:41
ThePubis there such a thing as desktop scaling w/o installing and using accelleration?04:41
TangBaBaI've tried installing the ATI driver from Synaptic, and even installed the linux driver from ATI but I don't see any real difference.04:41
TangBaBaThanks!04:41
TangBaBaI'll check it out!04:41
cmwebDoes the ati come with the ubuntu package?04:41
ThePubTangBaBa: xorg radeon drivers are pretty good depending on the vintage of your card.04:41
rajiv_nairtangbaba: wat does fglrxinfo tell u04:41
rajiv_nair??04:41
angel12cmweb, what do you mean?04:42
cmwebis it already installed in ubuntu i have an ATI04:42
jvaiyes un_operateur1.. i knoo, bot i'm in my account moreso than not... on the weeknds.. we switch boxes alot.. & she's learning gnome more & more04:42
angel12cmweb, an ati what? video card?04:42
cmwebYes04:42
Halitechcmweb, vnc works on both linux and windows04:42
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jvaiif i cant lock the home dir, how can i lock certain folders in it?04:43
un_operateur1jvai .. even so .. make seperate users on the same machine -- another user may not enter your home dir unless you delegate permissions04:43
angel12cmweb, you have to get th fglrx driver04:43
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cmwebangel12, copy04:43
drkmwhen configuring fonts in gnome/kde what is the font section which determines the font for your filenames in naturlis for example 'Fixed Width' sets the font type for your terminal04:43
cmwebvnc?04:43
cmweb!vnc04:43
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX04:43
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jesusfishare there any good free Linux control panel options like Plesk (other than Webmin)?04:44
cmwebHalitech, my friend would never understand how to insstall ssh04:44
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jvaiaaar, so it's not posible..? she has an account on this box, but if she ewants to use it in a flash, just for the browser.. is logging out efficient?04:44
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tonyyarussojvai: Just don't allow other users read priviledges on the folder.04:44
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jvaibut how? by locking them right?04:45
Halitechcmweb, don't have to use ssh and it's usually installed by default on linux, it doesn't exist in windows04:45
cmweb!Freenix04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Freenix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:45
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un_operateur1jvai .. well, you can lock your folders using chmod -- but if a user really wanted to get into a directory, thre'd be no problem04:45
drkmanyone?04:45
factboy818181Hi, is there some sort of a GUI for the package diff?04:45
cmwebHalitech, so where does one download for windows04:45
un_operateur1unless you chmodded using root04:45
factboy818181it's a file comparer04:45
jvaiok04:45
cmweb!freenx04:45
tonyyarussojvai: with chmod, just removing the read bit04:45
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX04:45
Halitechcmweb, which way are you wanting to make the connection, from windows to linux or linux and controlling the windows box?04:45
un_operateur1factboy818181, aptitude search diff04:45
cmwebControlling the Windows hehe04:46
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TangBaBaAgh.04:46
arrenlexun_operateur1: Did you try that before you suggested it? =P 1264 results.04:46
jvaiis chmod like.. password protecting the folders?04:46
Halitechcmweb http://www.tightvnc.com/04:46
un_operateur1factboy818181, aptitude search diff | less    then :)04:46
TangBaBaOK- I am following the steps on the BinaryDriverHowTo.04:46
jvaithat's what i want04:46
arrenlexun_operateur1: The fact remains that you can't really get anything useful out of such a large list of diverse packages.04:46
ski-worklapwhat's a good laptop vendor that sells 100% free software compatible hardware?04:46
factboy818181ok04:47
TangBaBaWhen I tried this command (glxinfo |grep direct), I was booted from the desktop to my login screen.04:47
tonyyarussoski-worklap: system76.com seems promising04:47
factboy818181i'll try that :D04:47
arrenlexun_operateur1: He was asking if anyone specifically new a good one they could recommend. What you did is essentially telling him to google it.04:47
un_operateur1arrenlex, you can always grep in on what you want :)04:47
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Froggerhello. does anybody know why i can open whats inside this --> http://paste.debian.net/18487      only with mount -a    instead of mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/ and so on  / and so on04:47
ski-worklaptonyyarusso, i've seen that before, i think... thanks04:47
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un_operateur1arrenlex, do you know of one ?04:47
tonyyarussoski-worklap: (if you get one, tell me how it is ;) )04:47
Halitechski, check out system76.com04:47
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arrenlexun_operateur1: Not for gnome, no.04:47
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h0ndaracer2hey people04:47
ski-worklapdern, no 17" ers04:47
jvaihey ppl.. starbucks is closing ty  all.. gn04:48
un_operateur1neither do i -- but i can point him in a direction where he might get lucky, no? :)04:48
factboy818181well, the reason why i want a good GUI is that I got used to WinMerge, as it allowed copy and paste compare04:48
h0ndaracer2i downloaded a file and its in rpm how can i extract it04:48
cmwebHalitech, ok so what do i do to connect to it04:48
Froggeri meant cant04:48
factboy818181instead of saving the files to your hard drive04:48
Froggerhello. does anybody know why i cannot open whats inside this --> http://paste.debian.net/18487      only with mount -a    instead of mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/ and so on  / and so on04:48
factboy818181h0ndaracer2: sudo apt-get install alien04:48
un_operateur1Frogger, why does the latter command fail??04:48
h0ndaracer2ok thanks04:48
factboy818181after that, alien the file04:48
arrenlexun_operateur1: I'm just saying that maybe you should offer advice which is more helpful. :)04:48
cmwebHalitechyou say i already have it, my friend is downloading and i duno how to connect04:48
ski-worklapooh they ship with ubuntu too04:49
Halitechyou would need to get it installed and running on the windows box, then you set up a password and then from ubuntu you connect to the ip address either with terminal server client or using firefox04:49
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h0ndaracer2thanks factboy04:50
Froggerun_operateur1    it says unknown file system04:50
Halitechor you can do what I did for my parents windows box, set up a dynu account and run the client as well on the windows box and then you can connect to winblows.dynu.com04:50
factboy818181hope that helped ;)04:50
un_operateur1Frogger, what's the exact command used?04:51
Froggersorry, that was wrong04:51
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Froggerit says no permission04:51
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factboy818181on a side note, has anyone successfully gotten Photoshop to work with WINE on edgy?04:51
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un_operateur1arrenlex,  aptitude search diff | wc -l  : 4204:52
un_operateur1I dont see why you got 1200 odd results04:52
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brohkencan someone help me out... im looking to buy a laptop and want to know if the specs for it are compatible with ubuntu/beryl... but the ubuntu website doesn't have some of the stuff listed on it's compatibility list04:52
Halitechfactboy818181 haven't tried photoshop but paint shop rfom jasc works pretty good04:52
un_operateur1and if someone cant weed through 42 easy-to-read results ...I doubt they'd be easy to please04:53
arrenlexun_operateur1: Oh. aptitude's searche matches in package name only, whereas apt-cache search also matches the descriptions.04:53
Froggerun_operateur1        sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/ serverdirectory / clientdirectory04:53
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un_operateur1Frogger, what was the exact command you used?04:53
un_operateur1ok04:53
Halitechbrohken, what laptop are you looking at?04:53
brohkendell 640004:53
Froggerhttp://paste.debian.net/1848704:54
nn        Gemplus GXP3 64V2N04:54
nn        U.S. Department of Defense Common Access Card (DoD CAC)04:54
nnFrom ubuntu, with love! :)04:54
un_operateur1Frogger, it looks ok04:54
slyboots_Does Ubuntu (Default install) come with any sort of Firewall?04:54
un_operateur1arrenlex, did you see me suggest apt-cache search at all??04:54
brohkenthere's a sweet deal out for it. $650 - This Dell Small Business Inspiron 6400 (equivalent to the Dell Home Inspiron E1505) is just $649 right now with 1.6Ghz Intel Core Duo Processor T2050, 15.4" WXGA TFT with TrueLife ($10 value), 128MB ATI Radeon X1300 video ($49 value), 1GB DDR2 SDRAM ($65 value), 120GB HD ($55 value), and 8x DVD+/-RW dual layer burner ($35 value)! It also comes with 802.11b/g wireless, Windows XP Home, and a 1 yea04:55
brohkenr warranty!04:55
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Halitechbrohken, I would stay away from ATI video04:55
slyboots_brohken, Take your sales pitch and chove it up your ass :P04:55
manuel_speak spanish????? alguien??04:55
brohkenhalitech... it's sort of mandatory if I go dell04:55
Halitechand the wireless could be a pain in the butt04:55
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Froggerbut on the client computer the command :  sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/ serverdirectory / clientdirectory       doesnt work... i have to mount -a... that works04:55
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brohkenslyboots_, WTF?04:56
Froggeri know it used to work the otherway around04:56
nnI need windows XP for winamp :(04:56
Froggerive done it before04:56
Capslock118I just mounted two SATA drives, in ext3. If I delete something, it does not show up in the trash, however it DOES show up in the trash through the terminal. I can perminantly delete stuff from the trash IN the terminal, but it doesnt show at all in the GUI....does anyone know what I can do about this?04:56
Halitechthen look at system76.com04:56
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kambeiCan any one point me in the right direction... I have several machines and I want to use one machine to authenticate user logins and possibly to host the home directories.  What am I looking for, exactly?04:56
kutohi04:56
kutowhat is the free version of matlab04:56
Halitechnn , why do you need winamp?04:56
un_operateur1Frogger, have you verified permissions on both share and mount point?04:56
kutois it octave?04:56
tonyyarussokuto: maxima04:56
CalJohnnn: for winamp?  if there was ever an inferior program.  why exactly?04:56
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tonyyarussokuto: octave too04:56
jakub_hi everyone04:56
jakub_i'm interested in voice / speech command of utilities on my desktop or even from the command line. is there anything that anyone can particularly recommend as good?04:56
DBObrohken, we are not your marketing targets, no more pasting ads04:56
nnCalJohn: the media library is great04:56
CalJohnnn: tried amarok?04:56
kutotonyyarusso: do you know if it is available in ubuntu?04:57
FroggerCapslock118      View   ---->   show hidden files04:57
tonyyarussokambei: Edubuntu has a lot of that in its core04:57
nnCalJohn: ya, just not the same love04:57
tonyyarussokuto: yes, both I believe.04:57
Halitechnn: try xmms, amarok, rthymbox04:57
kambeitonyyarusso: But, generally speaking, what facilitates that?04:57
CalJohnnn: winamp is a pretty nasty program, imo :p  you're on your own.04:57
Froggerbut wouldnt swear to it04:57
tonyyarussokambei: The #edubuntu folks would know more about the components (IOW - I don't remember)04:57
brohkenDBO: i was posting the specs for the system I want04:57
kambeitonyyarusso: Thanks, I will ask them.04:57
drkmwhen configuring fonts in gnome/kde what is the font section which determines the font for your filenames in naturlis for example 'Fixed Width' sets the font type for your terminal04:57
brohkenmaybe if you read...04:57
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DBObrohken, sorry I missed your convo on scrollback, even still try linking next time instead of posting the whole ad04:58
Capslock118Frogger: nice, that works enough, but also, how come it does not show up in the trash bin on screen?04:58
brohkenDBO, k04:58
un_operateur1Frogger, does mounting from within a root shell make a difference?   sudo su - ; mount -t nfs ...04:58
FroggerCapslock118    that i dont know either, maybe it has nothing to do with04:59
jakub_anyone know of some speech -> desktop controlling utilities that work well? even for command line04:59
Froggeryour trash04:59
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Froggeron desktop bin04:59
kutotonyyarusso: is matlab available in ubuntu04:59
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tonyyarussokuto: Not in repos, but yes, Matlab sells a linux version04:59
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docmurhello all05:00
KristanoEsperanthi05:00
KristanoEsperanti need a bit of help05:00
docmurI have a problem with the dapper live cd installer05:00
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tonyyarussodocmur: Why are you online as root, pray tell?05:00
arrenlex!ask | KristanoEsperant05:00
ubotuKristanoEsperant: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:00
un_operateur1!anyone05:00
h0ndaracer2will someone assist me on installing java05:00
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:00
docmur???I shouldn't be05:00
docmurbut whatever05:00
tonyyarussodocmur: Oh, live cd. Okay.05:00
ski-worklapsystem76.com looks good, but unfortunately they don't have enough options yet05:00
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docmurthis is my sis and bro's comp05:00
docmurI need to install linux05:00
kutotonyyarusso: do you know if it would install in ubuntu is it rpm or bin package?05:00
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tonyyarussokuto: No idea05:01
docmurwhen I boot the live cd and click in the installer it crashes05:01
KristanoEsperantcan anyone tell me how to put WinXP and Ubuntu on the same computer?05:01
Halitechdocmur, running as root will allow anyone to take over an do nasty things to your computer05:01
docmurhow would I fix this05:01
tonyyarusso!dualboot | KristanoEsperant05:01
ubotuKristanoEsperant: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)05:01
docmurno my name is root05:01
un_operateur1kuto, I'd imagine it'd be in a source tarball05:01
h0ndaracer2just partion you hard drive kristano05:01
FroggerCapslock118    that i dont know either, maybe it has nothing to do with your trashcan on desktop05:01
un_operateur1sorry -- binary tarball05:01
KristanoEsperantthanks a lot :D05:01
Froggerun_operateur1   what do u mean05:01
docmurso is therw a way to update the installer ???05:01
docmuron the live cd05:01
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jakub_Halitech: although i agree running as root is not a good idea, a) he's on a livecd and b) what's the probability he can get easily rooted from freenode?05:01
kutothanks05:02
un_operateur1even if it came as a .rpm .. you could always install it using alien05:02
tonyyarussoun_operateur1: alien's not really safe though05:02
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Halitechjakub, I had typed it in before I saw he was on a livecd and b, not likely but who knows where else he is at the moment?05:02
un_operateur1i know -- i'll let you explain why alien isnt safe :)05:02
wastreli used to use alien05:03
crzygrndpaAre there any guides for installing fastCGI or fcgid onto Ubuntu?05:03
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docmur???05:03
docmuranyhelp05:03
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TangBaBaThanks for that link guys! That was exactly what I was looking for!05:04
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Halitechdocmur, did you download and burn the cd yourself? what do you have for a system?05:04
docmurya this is a burned cd but the cd works on my rez comp05:04
docmurthis system05:04
TangBaBaI was wondering if you have anymore links on how I might be able to get Xgl, Compiz, and Beryl running on Edgy Eft?05:04
docmur1500+ XP with 256 MB ram05:04
docmur40 GB drive05:04
nnMicrosoft Windows Vista, now available on 64bit platforms for only the mere cost of your soul.05:04
tonyyarusso!xgl | TangBaBa05:05
ubotuTangBaBa: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:05
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TangBaBaThanks!05:05
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Halitechdocmur did you burn it in windows?05:05
docmuryes05:05
docmursadly05:05
ski-worklapis vista 64-bit only?05:05
Halitechdocmur what speed did you burn it at?05:05
jakub_ski-worklap: no05:05
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docmurI don't remember it was a while ago way before edgy, this cd works on my comp05:06
ski-worklapoh nice, no vista for xmas05:06
docmurI would guess at 52x05:06
ppjHi, isn't there a Ubunutu install DVD? I can't find it on the site05:06
brohkenanyone have the link to ubunutu's laptop compatibility list?05:06
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tonyyarussoppj: There is.  Should be around somewhere....05:06
ValMarkoIs Vista a good choice or Ubuntu still better ?05:06
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tonyyarussobrohken: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport05:06
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Halitechdocmur, might be the cd doesn't like the highspeed burn, try burning another one at 4x05:07
tonyyarussoValMarko: That's likely to be an !offtopic sort of discussion.05:07
brohkentonyyarusso, thanks05:07
ppjThanks05:07
docmurwhy would a high speed burn cause it not to work05:07
h0ndaracer2whats the differnece between linux self extracting and linux rpm self extracting05:07
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Halitechdocmur, might just be a fussy cd05:07
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ValMarkoyes :) you're right05:07
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jakub_h0ndaracer2: i take it that has to do with java packages? linux self-extracting would be .bin and linux rpm would be rpm based (by the Redhat people)05:08
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docmurYes but the cd works on my other comp05:08
docmur???05:08
docmurthat makes no sence05:08
h0ndaracer2what would i get05:08
Pie-rateFlash doesn't quite work right in firefox under linux, is there any way to get a more recent version of it?05:08
docmurthen the burn must be good05:08
h0ndaracer2yes its jave related05:09
jakub_h0ndaracer2: get the .bin package05:09
h0ndaracer2ok05:09
arrenlexPie-rate: Dowload flash 9 beta 2 from labs.adobe.com05:09
docmurbut I'll try it\05:09
docmurthanks05:09
brohkenok so I want to get the Dell 6400 and run ubuntu with Beryl on it. Based on this page do you think it will be very compatible with Ubuntu: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400?highlight=%28laptop%29%7C%28dell%2905:09
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jakub_h0ndaracer2: though you can also build java from source, not like you'll be a speed increase with... java05:09
cmwebcan some one please help me out here, i want the windows to be the server, and i need to tap in to do a control remote desktop control05:09
ski-worklapvnc?05:09
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Halitechdocmur, just because it works on 1 cdrom doesn't mean it will work on another. I had 1 cd rom that wouldn't read a cd but another would on the same system05:10
h0ndaracer2i need help with installing this java from their website05:10
jakub_cmweb: what version of windows is this running?05:10
jakub_h0ndaracer2: dude, seriously, what is so difficult? download the file and extract it...05:10
un_operateur1you can use rdesktop/tsclient to use Windows remote desktop05:10
cmwebjakub_, according to my friend its win xp home05:10
jakub_h0ndaracer2: and ubuntu packages java up nicely, so there's no need to have to go there05:10
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jakub_cmweb: is this *your* computer..?05:10
Halitechcmweb, did thet get tightvnc downloaded?05:10
h0ndaracer2ok so apt-get install java05:10
h0ndaracer2sometin like that05:10
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cmwebNo hes a dim wit and i need to get in,05:10
Phlostenheh05:11
cmwebHalitech, yes he has no idea what to do05:11
h0ndaracer2ok nm u dont got answer tat05:11
jakub_h0ndaracer2: apt-cache search packagegoeshere, now you'll never have to ask "how do i install <x>?"05:11
Halitechcmweb, did he install it yet?05:11
brohkenok so I want to get the Dell 6400 and run ubuntu with Beryl on it. Based on this page do you think it will be very compatible with Ubuntu: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400?highlight=%28laptop%29%7C%28dell%2905:11
cmwebHalitech, yes05:11
jakub_h0ndaracer2: i believe it's sun-jdk-1.5 or something, but i'm not even on ubuntu right now05:11
cmweb, he does not know what to do05:11
cmwebHalitech05:11
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caminomasterhi05:12
Halitechcmweb, does he have it running and has he set a password yet?05:12
cmwebHalitech, and nether do i05:12
caminomasterhow can i restart esd?05:12
cmwebHalitech, he does not know how to do that05:12
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jakub_cmweb: well then i guess vnc is the best you can do because windows xp professional and the windows server variants all come with some sort of remote desktop / microsoft terminal services client. regardless, this is a question for ##windows, so take it there05:12
ski-worklapbrohken, based on that page, looks pretty decent. but why do you need me to say so?05:12
n_i_c_kcaminomaster: killall esd; esd05:13
Pie-ratearrenlex: my ~/.mozilla/plugins directory contains flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so, should i remove the flashplayer.xpt before overwriting libflashplayer.so with the flash 9 beta 2 version?05:13
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bruenigPie-rate, yes05:13
arrenlexPie-rate: Yes.05:13
Halitechcmweb http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html05:13
cmwebdont send me their please i hate windows, I despise them05:13
ivxhey i am trying to open a program, and it isn't working. when i try to launch it from terminal it says: Applications can not close shared connections.  Please fix this in your app.  Ig what's that deal with this?05:13
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caminomastern_i_c_k, $ esd?05:14
cmwebHalitech, whats my username to login to VNC05:14
brohkenski-worklap, im a noob. just wanna make sure I'm not missing anything05:14
bruenigivx, obviously the program in question might be of help05:14
n_i_c_kcaminosmaster: not sure I understand your question05:14
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ivxbruenig, sreem05:14
ivxbruenig, screem05:14
raizehi, asked yesterday but everybody seemed busy.  does ubuntu support epson printers from japan?05:15
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jakub_cmweb: ... it's not a windows channel05:15
ivxraize, what printer is it05:15
raizei have an epson pm-a850 all-in-one05:15
arrenlexraize: I suggest you check on linuxprinting.org05:15
bruenigivx, ah who needs that, just use vim :D05:15
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caminomastern_i_c_k, I mean, only "esd" will work?05:16
ivxbruenig, i'll just try that i guess05:16
ski-worklapbrohken, it looks like getting the display to its maximum resolution will be a pain in the rear05:16
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Pie-rateStill doesn't quite work properly... here's an example: jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/screenshot.png please excuse the 2560x1024 png file, i'm too lazy to resize it =/05:16
n_i_c_kcaminomaster: Sure.  Tho you might prefer "esd &", which will leave it running in the background.05:16
jakub_Pie-rate: you work at that resolution?05:16
ski-worklapbut if you're happy to do 1280x1024 for awhile until you get that figured out, sounds god05:16
magic_ninjais there a regular floppy that will allow me to do a netinstall (i dont have a cdburner on this other machine and i gotta install ubuntu on another machine)05:16
ivxraize, do you have the printer?05:17
Pie-ratejakub: yes05:17
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caminomastern_i_c_k, I've restarted esd (my ears hurt: I have earphones :P)05:17
caminomasterthanks05:17
mhubrohken: if u have radeon x1400 u wont be able to run beryl with Xorg, only with XGL which sux coz XGL doesnt support 3d acceleration with that mobile card so u better wait for the ati proprietary drivers support in DRI05:17
n_i_c_kcaminomaster: ah those beeps can be a little loud, it's true05:17
cmwebim in a world of hurt05:17
Halitechcmweb I don't know, it should be in the documentation or when he is installing it should ask what to use05:17
cmwebany one wana talk to him05:17
jakub_Pie-rate: that's awesome05:17
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bruenigmagic_ninja, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot05:18
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cmwebany one use yahoo05:18
cmwebHalitech, use yahoo?05:18
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Halitechcmweb nope05:18
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Pie-rateyeah i've got a dual monitor setup, i'm thinking of selling the 3 17" mismatched LCDs i own and buying 2 acer 19" 2ms response LCDs05:18
Pie-ratebut meh, too much work.05:18
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cmweb;-(05:18
raizeivx; yes i have it05:18
magic_ninjabruenig: i read that, it helped but i'm not quite sure as the best booting method...burning a cd is not an option05:19
h0ndaracer2i cant figure it out05:19
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jakub_Pie-rate: i work on three 21" flat panels: one for coding, one for web browsing, and one for e-mail. no way i'm going back :)05:19
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bruenigmagic_ninja, I think there is some way to do it with the debian net install floppy thing, google around for that perhaps05:19
Pie-ratejakub_: i hate you.05:19
n_i_c_kjakub_: what is your graphics card?05:19
Pie-rate:P05:19
magic_ninjabruenig: ok, thx05:20
arrenlexjakub_: Can you do all those things at the same time? =P If not, what difference does it make if it's on another monitor or in your taskbar/05:20
arrenlex?05:20
Halitechcmweb, just checked and should only need a password05:20
cmwebok05:20
ivxwell raize plug it in and see05:20
cmwebHalitech, what do i use to connect to him?05:20
cmwebHalitech, i got a password05:20
Pie-ratejakub_: check this out: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=48929605:21
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Halitechcmweb, you need his ip address and if he has a router, it will need to be configured to allow access past to the computer05:21
raizeivx, it is plugged in, and works very well in windows :), it's the only thing i'm concerned about if i switch to ubuntu05:21
cmwebHalitech, i got that and a password05:21
ivxraize, do you have ubuntu install yet?05:22
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caminomasterI have an important question: I've heard that is easy to "override" root password, then it makes me fear05:22
raizeno, i currently haven't gotten anything05:22
Halitechcmweb, just go to http://ipaddress:5802 and it should connect05:22
jakub_Pie-rate: that is sweet05:22
ppjcaminomaster, you need physical access05:22
ivxraize, it is a live cd, boot from the cd and see,05:22
ppjcaminomaster, if you have physical access its easy as hell.05:22
raizeah, well that'll do it05:22
jakub_n_i_c_k: http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/products/th2go/home.php05:22
ivxraize i think printing should work05:22
sk4nKHi, I just a "security update" from the update manager, and when I restarted, my nvidia module failed to load. I haven't been able to get it going, is there any chance this is a known problem? or a log that can show me what was upgraded?05:23
ppjcaminomaster, you just single user it and pswd root05:23
raizeit's the scanning i'm actually worried about :)05:23
jakub_arrenlex: i can afford it and i have the desktop space for it, so why not?05:23
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raizethanks for the common sense though, i'll try that and check back if (when) i have problems05:23
Halitechsk4nk, there is info on the forum site about that05:23
caminomasterppj, there's no way to avoid it?05:23
ivxraize, wait a sec05:23
raizewaiting05:23
ppjcaminomaster, where is the server?05:23
ivxraize, do you know how to install a printer05:23
sk4nKthanks.05:23
n_i_c_kjakub_: thanks.  I had vaguely heard of those.  They really work huh?  I shall read more about them.05:24
raizeon a linux platform?05:24
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raizei'll go with no, since it'll be my first time.05:24
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cmwebhalitech, im connectiong to his ip and nothing05:24
jakub_n_i_c_k: yeah, it took some fudging though. i can't do accelerated graphics for some reason though. i'll have to figure it out when i get some time05:24
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ivxraize when you boot up go to system>administration>printing, you can swing it from that05:24
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Halitechcmweb dooes he have a router?05:25
cmwebhalitech, you try 24.229.174.5305:25
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raizeexcellent.  thanks a lot, i'll download the live cd now and give it a shot05:25
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ivxraize, alright have fun, also try to google your printer model then the word ubuntu,05:25
Geoffrey2is there a command or application that will display all the modes my video chip supports?05:25
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cmwebhalitech, he says only a cable modem05:26
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jakub_cmweb: why is it that you are in orlando and he is in somewhere near Palmerton, PA according to the whois?05:26
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raizealright, take care.05:26
ivxraize, later05:26
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cmwebjakub, im in holt05:26
n_i_c_kjakub_: ah ok.  I use a Matrox dual head card, which also does not do 3d accel.  That's OK, 3 heads would be just fine, accel or not.05:26
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n_i_c_kjakub_: would you be willing to expand on "it took some fudging"?05:27
arrenlexGeoffrey2: "modes"?05:27
Halitechcmweb, then either he has a router/modem or tight vnc isn't running and seeing as how I can't ping him, I'd say router/modem or anotehr firewall05:27
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caminomasterppj, my pc is at home, and the potential "enemy" too05:28
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jakub_n_i_c_k: well for some reason, my onboard i915 kept conflicting with it, so now i have a simple shell script that forces removing the kernel module on boot05:29
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TangBaBaWhich is the preferred route: Xgl or AIGLX?05:29
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jakub_n_i_c_k: that and my desktop physically couldn't house 3 24" flat panels, so i had to cut back and use the 21"05:29
matt____is it normal for an extra hard disk to have to be mounted manuly after a restart?05:29
n_i_c_kjakub: thanks.  i915 would be an Intel integrated graphics chip, I think?05:29
cmwe1halitech, windows fire wall possibly?05:29
jakub_n_i_c_k: yep05:30
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n_i_c_kjakub_: thank you05:30
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Halitechmatt___ if it's not in fstab then yes05:30
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Halitechcmwel, maybe05:30
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cmwe1shit, what ip did i give you05:30
cmwe1halitech05:30
matt____i am mounting a 200gb hard disk at /home/matt/data, when i restart my computer, i have to mount it each time, is that normal? can i make it "automated"?05:31
Halitech24.229.174.5305:31
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Halitechmatt, edit your fstab and it will mount automatically05:31
Flannelmatt____: yeh, add it to your fstab.  (I'm sure there's a GUI way of doing it, check system > disks or something)05:31
Deon|alt>:)05:31
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matt____fstab? explain05:32
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frogzoo!fstab | matt____05:32
ubotumatt____: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions05:32
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Geoffrey2arrenlex, well, I came home from work this evening to another basically frozen computer, I ran through the whole skinny elephant routine and it worked fine, but nobody online at the time seemed to have any idea where to even begin trying to figure out why my computer keeps doing this05:33
Shnaxdoes anyone know how to fix a Bad PBR error caused by partition resizing during ubuntu installation?05:34
matt____ok, i sudo gedit /etc/fstab, but now what do i add? where? is  it "safe", what if i accidently put something in the wrong place?05:34
arrenlexGeoffrey2: You didn't answer my question from last time: do you have any other computers on the same network? I'm very curious to see if you can SSH into it.05:34
jakub_Shnax: use a livecd and install grub/lilo/<boot loader of choice>?05:34
frogzoomatt____: the docs explain all this in extensive detail05:34
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drcodehi all05:35
arrenlex!hi05:35
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!05:35
drcodeI installed p7zip05:35
arrenlex...yay?05:35
Geoffrey2arrenlex, yes, there are three computers on the network, the other two are running Windows XP05:35
drcodebut I am looking for 7z,7za any idea in what packge I can find it?05:35
arrenlexGeoffrey2: It doesn't matter; if you don't want to set up SSH on wXP you can just boot one of them from the ubuntu liveCD to get SSH.05:35
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kitchedrcode: they come with p7zip05:35
drcodeI installed p7zip05:36
drcodestrange05:36
Shnaxjakub, will grub work if I'm trying to fix a windows partition?05:36
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Geoffrey2arrenlex, oh, when it was acting funny, I tried Ctrl-Alt-F1 to bring up the tty1 screen, and that did nothing either05:36
ski-worklapdoes anyone know why linux-k7, linux-686, etc. are obsoleted by linux-generic?05:36
HalitechGeoffrey, try putty to ssh into the frozen system from windows05:36
ski-worklapdoes the current kernel auto-detect optimizations to use or something?05:36
arrenlexski-worklap: They decided that it was hard to maintain.05:36
jrib!generic | ski-worklap05:36
ubotuski-worklap: Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html05:37
ski-worklapthx05:37
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Flannelski-worklap: yes, it autodetects05:37
jribdrcode: why do you need 7z and 7za specifically?  p7zip gives you /usr/bin/7zr and /usr/bin/p7zip05:37
n_i_c_kGeoffry2: do you see anything in /var/log/syslog about the time of the error?  E.g. the kernel reporting a soft lockup?05:37
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drcodeyes05:38
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drcodeI need it bcz I want to use xarchive05:38
drcodeit use warpper with 7za05:38
KristanoEsperanthey... um... okay. The multi-boot tutorial thing is great, but can I put Windows on the master drive instead?05:38
Jester45 do you know how to look at how much each ram slot has  like slot1: 512mb slot2:128mb etc05:38
jribdrcode: I'm going to install xarchive to see, one sec05:38
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drcodek05:39
drcodethnx05:39
rolerWhen I play DVD movies on my Edgy Laptop, it goes in bursts. It is very hard to notice, but it is not as fluent as on a tv screen. My laptop is more than capable of playing a dvd video... Is there any known issue and a way to fix it?05:39
ski-worklapjrib, interesting, thanks05:39
rolerI am using MPlayer05:39
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jribdrcode: by the way, do you know that file-roller (the default archive manager) will be able to use p7zip too?05:39
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kitcheKristanoEsperant: you can put windows on any drive05:39
matt____is there an EASY way to make a drive automount?05:39
KristanoEsperantok05:39
frogzooroler: gxine ?05:39
KristanoEsperantthanks05:39
jrib!diskmounter | matt____05:40
ubotumatt____: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:40
jribmatt____: maybe consider pysdm too05:40
drcoderealy05:40
drcodeno05:40
drcodeits gui?05:40
jrib!p7zip | drcode05:40
ubotup7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.42.dfsg.1-2 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 944 kB05:40
KristanoEsperantand why is the A dropped off the end of my name?05:40
jribdumb bot05:40
jrib!7z | drcode05:40
ubotudrcode: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression05:40
Jester45please any know how to check how much ram is in each slot05:40
rolerfrogzoo; installing now to test05:40
drcodeha05:40
drcodeI use xfce05:40
drcodexubuntu05:40
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Jordan_UAnybody know where the Sysreq key is on mac keyboards?05:41
Jester45drcode: i use it to05:41
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Flanneldrcode: you might ask in #xubuntu then, they'd know the default archive program05:41
jribdrcode: oh, well I'm not sure file-roller is really gnome-specific05:41
KristanoEsperantshould I put windows on first then Ubuntu?05:41
drcodek05:41
KristanoEsperanti'm confused, two different sites say two different things05:41
frogzooroler: check disk dma is enabled, then in gxine, enable expert mode & increase buffer memory05:41
arrenlexKristanoEsperant: Windows first, then ubuntu.05:41
HalitechKristano, yes, install windows first then ubuntu05:41
FlannelKristanoEsperant: yes, windows then ubuntu.05:41
Jester45lol05:42
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rolerfrogzoo; for dma do I use hdparm ?05:42
KristanoEsperantw00t three answers05:42
KristanoEsperantthanks :P05:42
KristanoEsperanti'm pretty sure which way to go now XD05:42
ubunbeats 0, like i often get :(05:42
Flannel!dualboot | KristanoEsperant05:42
ubotuKristanoEsperant: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)05:42
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jakub_KristanoEsperant: think about it: windows installs its mbr and you overwrite it with GRUB which recognizes the windows partition. if you do it the other way around, GRUB is gone and Windows tries its best to ignore the Linux partition.05:42
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KristanoEsperantaye, but i'm inexperienced and have just started trying to learn Linux today. I'm currently running on a LiveCd.05:43
GalaeronAny got a trick to the users list on xchat? If I set it to resizable user list it doesn't appear. If I turn it off, it appears but I cant resize it.05:43
Jester45im sorry for the slowness05:43
HalitechKristano, you can do ubuntu first and then windows but then you have to end up fixing the MBR to get ubuntu bootable again05:43
jribdrcode: found it, you need to install p7zip-full05:44
KristanoEsperanti see.05:44
drcodeha05:44
drcodeI see05:44
drcodethanx05:44
jakub_KristanoEsperant: first thing is first, as far as possible, use the web to help you out (Google, forums, etc.) *then* come here if you still have questions05:44
KristanoEsperantbut it DOESNT matter where I put windows (master/slave)? for sure?05:44
drcodeI will check it out05:44
FlannelKristanoEsperant: correct.  modern GRUBs fool windows05:44
KristanoEsperantcool beans.05:44
HalitechKristano, it shouldn't but I would proably put it on the primary master05:45
KristanoEsperantThanks for all your help guys05:45
KristanoEsperantGod bless05:45
KristanoEsperantcya05:45
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Jester45anyone want to help me figure out how much ram is in each slot05:46
rastilinYou can't check?05:46
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Jester45no05:46
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Geoffrey2n_i_c_k, hmmm, thanks for suggesting the log, looks like I may have found the problem....05:46
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MattDaPcWizi need help05:46
HalitechJester45 power down and take the cover off and look?05:46
MattDaPcWizpleeeeeeeease05:46
arrenlex! ask | MattDaPcWiz05:46
ubotuMattDaPcWiz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:46
Jester45i know how much total just not separate05:47
MattDaPcWizlol05:47
Jester45Halitech: i cant05:47
MattDaPcWizok what do i do if my network adaptor is not found?05:47
Jester45Halitech: plus why powerdown05:47
GalaeronJester45: take the cover off and look. Chances are if you have 2 sticks of ram, and you know you have a gig, each slot is gonna be 512 :)05:47
frogzooroler: to enable dma if it's not on already, edit /etc/hdparm.conf05:47
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rastilinMattDaPcWiz, how's it not found?05:47
Galaeronjester45: you want to always have the power off when poking around the inside of your computer05:47
Jester45Galaeron: i have 2gb ram and 3 slots :(05:47
HalitechJester45, so you can take them out if they aren't easily visible05:47
MattDaPcWizok i go to networking05:47
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n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: you might be stuck.  Ubuntu probably lacks a driver for it.  Is it an internal PCI card or what?05:48
DaSkreechAnyone used wget to mirror a directory?05:48
frogzooroler: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda - will report if it's on05:48
MattDaPcWizand it should say05:48
MattDaPcWizwired adaptop05:48
MattDaPcWizits built into the motherboard05:48
DaSkreechI can't seem to get it to ignore html file05:48
DaSkreechhtml files05:48
MattDaPcWiz1 gbps05:48
arrenlexGeoffrey2: ...well? Are you going to share?05:48
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DaSkreechif i do wget --mirror http://url/path it tells me 404 index.html not found05:48
Galaeronjester45: chances are you have 2 sticks of ram at 1gig each05:48
HalitechJester, if yo uhave 2gb, I would say 1 1gb and 2 51205:48
n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: does it appear in the output of "ifconfig -a"?05:48
DaSkreechwget --mirror -A.avi http://url/path does little better05:48
arrenlexDaSkreech: What exactly are you trying to download?05:49
Geoffrey2arrenlex, was looking at it again...it's a kernel error, reporting that my wireless is timing out.... Dec 15 12:48:31 jeffrey-laptop kernel: [17223472.732000]  NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out05:49
jakub_Halitech, Jester45: why not just use lshw and take the guess work out of it?05:49
MattDaPcWizim not sure05:49
MattDaPcWizummmm05:49
Jester45Halitech and Galaeron i need to find the highest ones05:49
DaSkreecharrenlex: the entire contents of a folder05:49
DaSkreechIt's only avis in it05:49
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arrenlexDaSkreech: I don't think you can do it like that.05:49
HalitechJester45, oh wait, do you have all 3 slots used and have 2 gb or 2 slots and 2gb?05:49
MattDaPcWizits a Marvell Adaptor, which is part of a Gigabyte MotherBoard (GA-965P-S3 )05:49
DaSkreechbut wget keeps telling me 404 index.html not found05:49
Geoffrey2arrenlex, and that's followed immediately by Dec 15 12:48:31 jeffrey-laptop kernel: [17223472.732000]  bcm43xx: Controller RESET (TX timeout) ...05:50
Jester45Halitech: i have 3 slots used 2 gb05:50
DaSkreecharrenlex: So wget is jsut for downloading html files?05:50
Halitechjakub_ ummmmm, cause I didn't know about it?05:50
arrenlexDaSkreech: Yes, because unless you specify a file it looks like index.html05:50
frogzooDaSkreech: can you read that url witha  browser?05:50
DaSkreechYes05:50
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DaSkreechIt's a dir listing05:50
arrenlexDaSkreech: Of course not! But you need to point it to a full file.05:50
Galaeronjester: if you got 3 slots used then Halitech is right. 1 slot is a gig, the other 2 slots at 51205:50
n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: I suggest: remove the card.  Reboot. Run "ifconfig -a".  Shutdown.  Insert the card.  Boot. Run "ifconfig -a".  Any diff?  If yes, you're prob in good shape.  If not, not.05:50
DaSkreechCan't I glob files?05:50
DaSkreechIt hasa --n-glob option05:50
DaSkreechnoglob05:50
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MattDaPcWizyes well05:50
frogzooDaSkreech: -r - recursive05:50
MattDaPcWizu forget05:50
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MattDaPcWizITS BUILT INTO THE MOTHERBAORD05:50
DaSkreechfrogzoo: asks for index.html05:50
MattDaPcWizkinda hard to remove lol05:50
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n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: ah.. you have a point..05:51
MattDaPcWizand where do i type these commands?05:51
MattDaPcWizive just started using linuz lol05:51
n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: what motherboard?05:51
MattDaPcWizlinux*05:51
MattDaPcWizGigabyte GA-965P-S305:51
rolerfrogzoo; thanks so much, gxine seems to be working great. just a bit washed out (too bright) but very smooth05:51
DaSkreecharrenlex: so it's can't mirror say a directory of images?05:51
Jester45ok05:51
Jester45thanks05:51
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frogzooDaSkreech: it still needs an initial jump off page - and no, you can't glob in html05:51
DaSkreechfrogzoo: gives a 404 index.html not found05:52
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Pie-rateMattDaPcWiz: click applications->accessories->terminal and type lspci05:52
DaSkreechfrogzoo: so the --no-glob option is pointless?05:52
MattDaPcWizbrb05:52
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Pie-ratepaste the output to05:52
Pie-rate!paste05:52
Halitechjakub_ I tried that on my system and it just shows 256 but I have a pair of 128s05:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:52
frogzooDaSkreech: you can't glob in html05:52
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zcat[1] in edgy, how do I set something up to run on boot (NOT on login) .. I used to have motion running from my inittab, but now it doesn't seem to happen.05:52
n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: hmm.. what does the following return: " ifconfig | tr -s ' ' | cut -d' ' -f 1"05:52
frogzoozcat[1] : man boot-scripts05:52
zcat[1] do I have to use /etc/init.d ?05:53
zcat[1] damn, what a pain.. inittab was easy05:53
n_i_c_kzcat[1] : rc.local, I think05:53
DaSkreechSo what should I use to mirror?05:53
frogzoozcat[1] : inittab will do it too, take your pick05:53
zcat[1] inittab doesn't seem to be doing it any more...05:54
frogzoozcat[1] : only inittab is typically meant for session management05:54
MattDaPcWizALRIHT05:54
MattDaPcWizit reconises it05:54
MattDaPcWizas an ethernet adaptor and that its from Marvell tech, but its unknown devide 436405:54
Pie-ratehttp://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/screenshot.png can anyone tell me how to fix the black area around the flash animation at the top of the page?05:54
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n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: if it shows as "eth0" or some such yr ok.. if not, I don't know.05:55
poquedoraquin case i get no help in #kubuntu, mayebe you guys might know. My girlfriend got a new HP computer that came with winblowz, and we just tried to resize its partition so that kubuntu could squeeze in... but the windows partition is displayed in red, and when you try to resize it says "couldnt check disk, totally 3 clusters"05:55
poquedoraquits brand new out of the box :<05:55
frogzoozcat[1] : wierd, where's /etc/inittab gone?05:56
zcat[1] poquedoraqu: just nuke windows ... why would you want to keep it?!!05:56
MattDaPcWizis it not possible05:56
MattDaPcWizdo get a driver for it?05:56
poquedoraquzcat[1] : Bd05:56
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zcat[1] frogzoo: still there, just not running motion like it used to05:56
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poquedoraquzcat[1] : She likes her little windows fish tank program05:56
poquedoraquzcat[1] : And this male stripper thing that doesnt work in linux05:56
Capslock118would it be easier for me to use x32 as opposed to x64 ubuntu? (i have a x64 cpu)05:56
MattDaPcWizomg05:56
poquedoraqushe's extremely shallow05:56
n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: maybe, but probably not from Ubuntu.  Complain to the motherboard supplier.05:57
zcat[1] haha..05:57
MattDaPcWizit appears mavell has released a driver05:57
MattDaPcWizfor linux05:57
MattDaPcWizlol screw gigabyte they r useless to tech support05:57
Pie-ratepoquedoraqu: maybe the male stripper thing will work under wine?05:57
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zcat[1] 12:23:respawn:su - zcat -c "motion" </dev/tty12 &>/dev/tty12   -- used to work, now does nothing. Doesn't even seem to be loggin an error anywhere05:57
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n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: thank you.  I shall avoid Gigabyte motherboards.05:57
poquedoraquPie-rate: We tried. It flickers really fast on the desktop. And her fish program doesnt work at all - you cant reeally emulate a screensaver05:57
MattDaPcWizhahahah05:57
MattDaPcWiznononono05:58
MattDaPcWizthe mobos fkn kick ass05:58
MattDaPcWizbut05:58
MattDaPcWizand u never need tech support05:58
poquedoraquThese programs arent high on Wine's "to do" list05:58
MattDaPcWizbesides its not a gigabyte issue05:58
MattDaPcWizits a marvell issue05:58
Pie-ratepoquedoraqu: i bet there's a fish screensaver for linux05:58
MattDaPcWizand i believe they have released a LINUX driver05:58
DBOMattDaPcWiz, your enter key is not a comma05:58
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poquedoraquPie-rate: I think there must be, but she lieks hers :<05:58
zcat[1] Pie-rate: You'd think so.. but no.. nothing I've been able to find. They all suck.05:58
poquedoraquAt any rate, can window sblock a partition from being resized?05:58
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n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: if it's on Gb's mobo, it's their issue.  Don't underestimate your influence as a paying customer.05:58
frogzoozcat[1] : there's a lot of tweaks you can do with hdparm to make disk access faster: mult_sect_io io32_support transfer_mode lookahead read_ahead_sect interrupt-unmask05:59
MattDaPcWizok05:59
MattDaPcWizalright quick question05:59
DaSkreechfrogzoo, arrenlex: ok lftp -c took care of my problems05:59
DaSkreechthanks05:59
MattDaPcWizmarvell has linux drivers, which should i download?05:59
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zcat[1] frogzoo: ?? fishtank screensavers?06:00
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MattDaPcWizkernell 2.606:00
Pie-rateits like flash doesn't support transperency on linux06:00
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MattDaPcWizkernell 2.4.20 and higher06:00
MattDaPcWizanyone?06:00
n_i_c_kMattDaPcWiz: well I'm a Free Software bigot.  If the license if non-Free, don't use the product.  I'm afraid that might not be much help, but Free isn't always Easy.06:00
poquedoraqun_i_c_k: Im with you. she's not06:01
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arrenlexMattDaPcWiz: I have a Marvell NIC that works with the open-source sky2 driver. Does yours not work?06:01
PORDOsince upgrading to edgy this week, i can no longer hibernate. :(06:01
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MattDaPcWizi have a Marvel Yukon builtinto mobo06:01
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MattDaPcWizwhere might i aqquire this sky2?06:01
arrenlexMattDaPcWiz: Yes, I have a marvell yukon NIC.06:01
MattDaPcWizdo not forget i do not have internet on the LINUX computer06:01
arrenlexMattDaPcWiz: For me, it Just Worked (tm) when I installed.06:02
MattDaPcWizalright06:02
MattDaPcWizdo u have link for driver?06:02
MattDaPcWizand does it work properly?06:02
Capslock118How can I put a mounted drive to display in the computer folder instead of in the filesystem?06:02
frogzooMattDaPcWiz: well that's first thing to fix - ubuntu without net is too painful06:02
Capslock118im thinking shotcuting it?06:02
n_i_c_kpoquedoraqu: I am glad to hear you.06:02
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arrenlexMattDaPcWiz: As I said-- it just worked when I installed, without me downloading anything.06:02
MattDaPcWizlol06:02
MattDaPcWizk06:02
MattDaPcWizomg one other things06:02
MattDaPcWizwhich im praying u guys know what to do06:02
poquedoraquBelieve me, no one hates windows more than me, which is why i want to help her dual-boot. plus, as an artist it will be in her ebst interwest06:02
Pie-rateshow her flying toasters and she'll switch over immediately06:02
poquedoraqu*interest06:03
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MattDaPcWizim usuing a dual boot system XP PRO/ LINUX UBUNTU06:03
MattDaPcWizand i want to access my other 3 hard drives with linux06:03
MattDaPcWizeven though they r windows06:03
konamthats easy06:03
konam!06:03
MattDaPcWizlol06:03
Flannel!ntfs | MattDaPcWiz06:03
ubotuMattDaPcWiz: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:03
MattDaPcWizhow?06:03
MattDaPcWizok guys06:04
MattDaPcWizthis is the first time i have used linuz06:04
MattDaPcWizlinux*06:04
MattDaPcWizlol06:04
poquedoraquAnyway, does anyone at all know if windows has the ability to make a partition blocked from resize06:04
FlannelMattDaPcWiz: read the link ubotu sent you06:04
MattDaPcWizsop go easy on me and wtf is !fuse?06:04
poquedoraqubecause I want  it to dual boot06:04
MattDaPcWizok06:04
MattDaPcWizbrb06:04
Geoffrey2MattDaPcWiz, Linux can read NTFS just fine, writing to NTFS is something that should be avoided06:04
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MattDaPcWizok06:05
MattDaPcWizgood06:05
arrenlexMattDaPcWiz: For your NIC, try "modprobe -v sky2" and tell us what it says.06:05
poquedoraquwell im going to go...06:05
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MattDaPcWizerror inserting sky206:08
MattDaPcWizok guys does mIRC work on ubuntu?06:09
arrenlexMattDaPcWiz: "error" is all it says? xD06:09
MattDaPcWizlol06:09
MattDaPcWizwell06:09
HalitechMatt, why would you need mIRC? Xchat is the same thing06:09
MattDaPcWizits on another computer in aNOTHER room06:09
MattDaPcWizsooo hard to write it all down06:09
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MattDaPcWizalright06:09
MattDaPcWizthen i will use that06:09
MattDaPcWizbut i need my internet first06:09
ladikhi, sometimes i see in process manager, firefox-bin running netstat, is that normal?06:10
Halitechor you can use gaim as well06:10
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juanjoholaaaaaa06:13
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juanjohellooooooooooo06:13
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Halitech!hello06:14
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB06:14
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nnhow do i get my video chipset (via unichrome)'s builtin mpeg2 decoder and mpeg4 accelerator to work in X? :)06:14
rajiv_nair!hi06:15
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:15
Capslock118how can I make bash the system default shell?06:15
tonyyarussoCapslock118: Use the 'chsh' tool.06:15
nntonyyarusso: system not user06:16
nnCapslock118: instead of say 'dash'?06:16
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Capslock118nn: yes06:16
nnCapslock118: you'd remove the /bin/sh symlink and replace it with one from /bin/bash06:16
tonyyarussonn: Ah, right06:16
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nnCapslock118: rm /bin/sh; ln -s `which bash` /bin/sh06:17
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nnI dislike dash too, but it's technically posix correct, more so than bash06:17
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Capslock118'which bash' would be bin/bash?06:17
nnCapslock118: yea, it'll find that for ya, tho06:18
nn`which bash` executes 'which' a program that finds it's first argument in the PATH var06:18
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frogzooCapslock118: why would you want to do that?06:19
nnfor some reason, my wireless link quality is very bad mow06:19
nnmaybe the card is overheating?06:19
frogzoonn: someone's running a microwave maybe06:19
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Capslock118frogzoo: i am trying to get cedega to work and I read that I need to be in bash in order for it to work06:19
Capslock118im basically just going with what i can find06:20
nnfrogzoo: no, i think it's maybe heat with the card ;\06:20
nnthis box is fanless and i've made some mods to it recently, but it might be tottally unconnected06:20
frogzooCapslock118: you are in bash, it's the default user shell06:20
btrentohey does anyone know how to make /forcefsck scan more than just the main drive06:20
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drkmhow do I reinstall a selection with apt-get?06:20
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BenCdrkm: apt-get --reinstall install foo06:20
Jordan_UIs somebody linking /bin/sh to /bin/bash in edgy? If so, DON'T06:21
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Capslock118frogzoo: this is what I was told, in terms of the console i really dont knwo....The problem is that edgy has a different default shell, dash.06:21
Capslock118 Basically you need to make bash the system default shell.06:21
drkmBenC: thanks06:21
Capslock118thats what i was told06:21
pzl!assembly comp06:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about assembly comp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:21
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BenCCapslock118: making /bin/sh point to bash is not correct06:21
zcat[1] Capslock118: I think you have been misinformed...06:21
pzl!blackbox06:22
ubotublackbox: Window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.70.1-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 251 kB, installed size 768 kB06:22
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BenCif you want to use /bin/bash in your scripts, then point to it directly06:22
Jordan_UCapslock118: If somebody told you you you need to make /bin/sh /bin/bash the have a broken script that THEY need to fix06:22
BenCif you want your scripts to work with /bin/sh, use correct posix shell06:22
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max_Fire Fox crashes when loading a lage with flash, anyone know the fix?06:23
zcat[1] lage ?06:23
zcat[1] ahh.. page06:23
max_page*06:23
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Capslock118x61431g06:23
frogzoomax_: tried flash 9?06:24
max_its a FF problem06:24
max_not a flash problem06:24
max_!ffcrash06:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ffcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:24
Jordan_Umax_: If it happens with flash then it is a flash problem06:24
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zcat[1] finally upgraded to edgy.. seems to have gone quite well. I guess I'll know for sue when Sue uses it.06:28
zcat[1] *sure06:28
Capslock118how do i go back to bin?06:28
CraZy675Hi I'm running a LAMP server and have always used a hardware firewall, I'd like to remove my hardware firewall and use ubuntu's firewall06:28
Capslock118bash rather06:28
CraZy675anyone have a link to a good firewall setup tutorial?06:29
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frogzoo!firestarter | CraZy67506:30
ubotuCraZy675: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:30
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Capslock118shit "bash: /usr/bin/groups: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory06:30
Capslock118bash: /usr/bin/lesspipe: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory06:30
Capslock118"06:30
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CraZy675thanks frogzoo and bot06:30
Capslock118what does that mean?06:30
zcat[1] Capslock118: sudo -i06:30
drkmI installed kde via "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop".. it messed up and I want to re-install it so I am using 'apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop' but it only downloads kubuntu-desktop and does install anything.. what should I be doing?06:30
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zcat[1] Capslock118: then cd /bin ; rm sh ; ln -s dash sh06:31
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Capslock118zcat[1] : thanks for the save06:31
duckfishcan I change umask for just one folder?06:31
drkmanyone?06:32
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BenCdrkm: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, you'll need to specify each package, or remove kubuntu-desktop, autoremove and then reinstall06:32
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frogzooduckfish: no, but you could use acls06:33
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starzhey anyone know where i can find the maintainer of w32codecs ?  or its homepage?06:34
frogzooduckfish: also chmod . +s & +t can be handy06:34
zcat[1] starz: google it?06:34
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drkmBenC: how do you do this autoremove?06:35
bradleyhi could anyone tell me what cashe memory is? and what it is used by?06:35
BenCapt-get auto-remove06:35
frogzoobradley: what's your problem?06:35
BenCbradley: it's the memory used by diskcache, and the kernel uses it...it's also free'd when you need it, so don't worry about how much is being used06:35
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zcat[1] !moo06:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:36
drkmBenC: ah ok.. so I am doing: apt-get autoremove kde? or kubuntu-desktop?06:36
zcat[1] I see ubotu doesn't have super-cow powers06:36
BenCdrkm: No, apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop; apt-get auto-remove06:36
starzzcat[1] , unlike the ignorant masses i actually do know about google and use it.06:36
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starzi only bother to ask as ive not found the answer, and wish to.06:37
ski-worklapwhat are some good free as in beer games for linux?06:37
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bradleyfrogzoo, my computer seems to glitch sometimes so i added the memory graph to my panel and it says that my 63% of the memory is used in cache.06:37
zcat[1] starz: yeah, I can't find it either :)06:37
drkmBenC: thank you.. that actually seems to be doing something I wanted it to :p06:37
ski-worklapi've got tuxracer and rogue, and what i can find online with flash, but that's it so far06:37
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frogzooski-worklap: lincity-ng & battle of wesnoth are good strategy games06:37
zcat[1] ski-worklap: nexuis ?06:37
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zcat[1] sorry, nexuiz06:38
Capslock118whats the difference between video ram and agp mem available?06:38
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starzand apparently aptitude thinks its not a real package ~_____________~06:38
bradleyfrogzoo, i am not sure if that is normal or too high.06:38
bradleyor if it would cause a freeze06:38
mikemikeI'll ask again.   I've got a PLC putting .txt files on a server. I need to talk to an AS400 speaking UNIX.   I want to model that in Linux.  Should the Linux poll the txt files or is there a better way.  I'm not a programmer but not an idiot.Just looking for a point in the right direction.06:38
frogzoobradley: it's normal - linux doesn't leave your mem sitting idle, but uses it internally, & releases as necessary06:39
ski-worklapzcat[1] , frogzoo thanks - i'll check those out06:39
Jordan_UWhen there are too many animations happening at once beryl slows down so much that it might as whell be frozen, should I report that as a bug ?06:39
zcat[1] ski-worklap: enable the seveas repo and install ubuntu-games metapackage, it's got all the best games06:39
bradleyfrogzoo, so i would only need to concern myself with memory used by programs?06:39
ski-worklapzcat[1] , oh nice06:40
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ski-worklapwow that is a lot of games06:40
duckfishfrogzoo: are they automatic; does it set the perms when you create a new file?06:40
frogzoobradley: yes, try htop06:40
frogzooduckfish: really depends what you're trying to do06:41
bradleyfrogzoo, great thanks. what is htop? (or i guess i can google and figure it out) so thanks again!06:41
zcat[1] !htop06:42
ubotuhtop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 172 kB06:42
navaburo_Whats the secret to java in firefox 2?06:42
Born_In_Xixaxseveas repo?06:42
duckfishfrogzoo: I want it so that when I right-click and go to Create Document > Empty File in /var/www, it makes the file with perms 77506:42
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zcat[1] navaburo: tell me when you find it :)06:42
ski-worklapnavaburo, what's wrong with java in ffox2?06:43
ski-worklapi find it crashes with certain apps but other apps are fine.06:43
duckfishfrogzoo: or if I do 'gedit /var/www/a-new-file'06:43
ski-worklapis that what you're talking about?06:43
navaburo_whats not wrong? the faqs say to link from a nonexistant directory: /usr/java06:43
navaburo_anyone else on edgy with ffx2 and sunjava?06:43
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Pie-ratenavaburo_: give me an example of an app that crashes?06:47
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loki505how can i find shoutcast tv stations06:47
navaburo_Pie-rate, no app crashes, i just cant get java installed06:47
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Pie-rateoh, it was ski-worklap that had crashes06:47
frogzooduckfish: best option - 'sudo chmod +s /var/www' & add users to www-data as necessary06:47
navaburo_loki505, there is a realy nifty php page out there that does it for you06:47
Pie-rateski-worklap, what applet crashes?06:47
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frogzooduckfish: 'sudo chgrp www-data /var/www' also06:48
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jakub_frogzoo: chown user:group file/directory/symlink/etc works as well06:49
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Pie-ratehttp://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm best. site. ever.06:51
MattDaPcWizalright06:51
MattDaPcWizim back and im pissed lol06:51
MattDaPcWizi still have not connected internet06:51
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MattDaPcWizand it still does not show my adaptopr06:51
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MattDaPcWizsomeone must've had this problem06:52
MattDaPcWizanyone?06:52
jakub_Pie-rate: nice find06:52
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: no one is going to remember all your problems. please state them again06:52
MattDaPcWizlol06:52
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MattDaPcWizwell nothing matters except the network adaptor not showing06:53
MattDaPcWizther rest can be fixed when i get xchat working on the computer in question06:53
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: and what network adapter is that?06:53
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: that's bloatware, imho and for your objective, irssi will suffice06:53
MattDaPcWizit is a Marvell Yukon adaptor built into a Gigabyte Motherboard06:53
MattDaPcWizok06:54
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: that doesn't sound ilke something i've heard of before, which might mean it's somewhat esoteric and not in the standard ubuntu generic kernel06:54
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MattDaPcWiznonno06:54
MattDaPcWizi have been googleing for ages06:54
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: in that case, you'll have to compile your own kernel (possibly convert to a deb and install)06:54
MattDaPcWizit was fixed for a long time06:54
MattDaPcWizbut now its not wtf? lol06:54
jakub_what's not "fixed"?06:54
Born_In_Xixaxi have a marvell pci wirless card, i had to use ndiswrapper06:54
MattDaPcWizwell06:54
MattDaPcWizit knows that there is a device there06:55
MattDaPcWizit just does not recognise it06:55
MattDaPcWizand in turn06:55
MattDaPcWizdoes not show it when i go to networking06:55
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: my openbsd box recognizes i have RAID 0+1, but that doesn't mean RAID works on it06:55
MattDaPcWizwhich means i cannot coonfigure it for my network06:55
MattDaPcWizyes i know06:55
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: maybe you should delve into a non-GUI environment in case the GUI doesn't support all the options06:55
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MattDaPcWizthis is just it06:55
Born_In_Xixaxhave you tried the nidswrapper path?06:55
MattDaPcWizit has worked on previous version of Ubuntu06:56
MattDaPcWizwithout any configuration06:56
Born_In_Xixaxare you on edgy?06:56
MattDaPcWizedgy?06:56
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Born_In_Xixaxwhat version of ubuntu06:56
MattDaPcWiz6.1006:56
Born_In_Xixaxare yo uahving trouble with06:56
MattDaPcWizjust got it an hour ago06:56
jakub_wait, this *is* an ethernet card, correct? or am i Google'ing incorrectly here?06:56
MattDaPcWizmy other things are not issues, but rather things to do06:56
jakub_because ndiswrapper has *nothing* to do with it in that case06:57
MattDaPcWizits and ethernet ADAPTOR not a card, it is built into the motherboard06:57
sonicGBMarvel Yukon is gigabit ethernet IIRC....06:57
MattDaPcWizyes06:57
sonicGBMattDaPcWiz: adaptor/card doesn't really matter.. .they both end up on the PCI bus, both work the same way06:57
MattDaPcWizcrap06:57
MattDaPcWizlol06:57
MattDaPcWizim too used to xp06:58
sonicGBOK... I think I've had a marvel yukon adaptor working on gentoo somewhere...06:58
Born_In_Xixaxi've heard that 6.10 lost support for some kinds of marginal network cards, mostly wireless06:58
sonicGBMattDaPcWiz: XP sees it the same way06:58
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MattDaPcWizyeh but xp recognises it06:58
sonicGBMattDaPcWiz: I came in late on this discussion... what's the actual problem you're having with it?06:58
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MattDaPcWizand xp mojority of stuff is done 4 u06:59
sonicGB(lol, 'frogzoo' what a cool mac!)06:59
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: uhm.. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=active&rls=en&hs=6ES&q=Marvell+Yukon+kernel+module&btnG=Search shows you what kernel module you need06:59
MattDaPcWizok lol u forget06:59
sonicGBMattDaPcWiz: I wouldn't go quite that far.... (done for you!)06:59
MattDaPcWizi have no idea bout linux06:59
MattDaPcWizat all06:59
MattDaPcWizwell06:59
MattDaPcWizmost thingsr sonic06:59
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: so, like i said before, roll your own kernel and install it with checkinstall06:59
sonicGB^s/mac/nick/06:59
MattDaPcWizman i dont know what u r saying06:59
MattDaPcWizi know ur talkin bout parts of linux07:00
MattDaPcWizbut07:00
MattDaPcWizi have nver used it b407:00
arrenlex!enter | MattDaPcWiz07:00
ubotuMattDaPcWiz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:00
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: then go use Google, honestly07:00
MattDaPcWizand i dont know where stuff is or how to use it07:00
sonicGBjakub_: if he's just said "I have no idea about linux" then we might need to give him a *little* bit more help than "roll your own and you'll be fine dude"!!!07:00
MattDaPcWizthank u sonic07:00
sonicGBjakub_: please go and read up on ubuntu philosphy.... please07:00
jakub_sonicGB: i don't think "i have no idea about linux" deserves any better. if you aren't willing to meet me halfway, then why bother?07:01
jakub_sonicGB: i'm more of a coder than a philosopher07:01
duckfishhow do I set it so that newly created files/folders inherit the parent folder's permissions - but *only* for a certain folder? ie, in a folder with perms 765, all files/folders created in that folder will inherit the perms 765?07:01
sonicGBso you're using ubuntu 6.10 right? (I have nfi about those edgy dapper whassname words)07:01
MattDaPcWizyes i am07:01
Born_In_Xixaxwhich prior version of ubuntu worked for you?07:02
sonicGBahhh... cr*p... firefox crashed again... (I'm on a mac here... first ever mac, had it for a week, and I'm still struggling!!!... gimme a minute!07:02
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: i would start by reading some sort of UNIX/UNIX-like or introduction online. get used to the environment, and when you're ready, feel free to play around with it. but ignorance really isn't an excuse07:02
MattDaPcWizuhhhhhhh lol not sure, i got it from a magazine orginally, then decided to go for the full things today after like 2 months07:02
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Born_In_Xixaxcould have been 6.0407:02
MattDaPcWizlook guys the point is, after today internet will not be an option for me unelss i get it working on this linux pc07:03
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Born_In_Xixaxyou might try downloading that version07:03
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: okay, question for you then: what do you *need* linux for? i'm all for its use, but if you're a hardcore windows user, why bother installing linux if you don't want to put in the effort?07:03
MattDaPcWizi do want to put in the effort07:04
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: honest question because i'm also all for using the best tool that you got07:04
MattDaPcWizthats why im doing this, thats why i got onto the IRC channel07:04
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MattDaPcWizxp is far less stable07:04
MattDaPcWizwhen u run servers liek i do07:04
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: not really, if you had put in the effort, my 2 second google would have been more like a 2 hour hunt for you problem07:04
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: apparently, if the card works on windows, isn't windows more stable?07:05
Born_In_Xixaxeasiest suggestion would be to use 6.04, otherwise you appear to be looking at obtaining and installing a custom module/driver07:05
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natalieCan anybody help me with a problem... Whenever I attempt to install Ubuntu 6.06 from the live CD it freezes at the GDM... The only way that I can install 5.10 is with a stage 2 install inside of stage 1... There are very few distros of linux that I can install.... I could really use some help or be pointed in the correct direction07:05
Born_In_Xixaxor otherwise dabbling in non newbie linux stuff07:05
MattDaPcWizjakub that does not make any sense07:05
jakub_how does that not make sense?07:05
jakub_it works on windows, therefore it's already a step ahead of where you are with linux, right?07:05
MattDaPcWizu said that if i put in MORE effort ur 2 second google would have been 2 hours for me07:06
sonicGBjakub_: PLEASE help, or stop.07:06
jakub_you can actually access the internet with windows, you can't currently with linux without compiling your own kernel07:06
jakub_sonicGB: i am helping07:06
MattDaPcWizim using a seperate computer07:06
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MattDaPcWizmy xp is a bit shall we say07:06
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sonicGBMattDaPcWiz: I'm gargling for solutions here. Looks like this is a driver that existed in whatever number 'dapper' is, and dissapeared in 6.10.... I think we knew that already, right?07:06
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: okay, so then let me clarify one thing: does the card work *at all* on windows?07:06
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MattDaPcWizyes07:07
jakub_okay, so what's wrong with xp?07:07
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MattDaPcWizim trying to set up a dual boot07:07
sonicGBdoes #ubuntu have moderators, 'cos we need one here07:07
jakedahnhey, can anyone help me fix up my audio?07:07
Born_In_Xixaxwould ndiswrapper help in this situation?07:07
MattDaPcWizxp is gr8 for gaming etc. but not always for HOSTING the gaming servers07:07
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: why though? what's *wrong* with windows? or do you want to test linux out?07:07
MattDaPcWizim trying to test it07:07
ski-worklapPie-rate, i think it was pjirc that crashes07:07
jakub_sonicGB: what is wrong with what i am saying?07:07
MattDaPcWizagainst xp07:07
ski-worklapazureus also crashes for me after a bit of usage07:08
MattDaPcWizwhen hosting servers07:08
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ski-worklapand gets itself into a place where it cannot restart again without crashing07:08
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: okay, alright, up until now i thought your philosophy was that windows is just inferior even though the card works on windows, that changes everything07:08
Curs0rMattDaPcWiz, you might try colinux until you feel you have it worked out07:08
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MattDaPcWizcolinux?07:08
Curs0rMattDaPcWiz, google it07:09
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: i think the best solution is still compiling a kernel and installing a debian package with checkinstall. look up compiling a kernel, checkinstall, etc. and if you still need help, i'm more than willing to help :)07:09
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jakub_MattDaPcWiz: that way you don't have to reinstall any new or old version of ubuntu07:09
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mag_wow mamy people again !}07:09
Curs0rI'm loving 6.10 I never had such a stable install07:09
nzhomiethere was 900 last nite07:10
nzhomiecursor i agree !07:10
jakub_Curs0r: that's kind of ironic compared to what ubuntu seems to publicly state that it's supposed to be a bleeding edge distro, hehe07:10
arrenlexmag_: This is pretty low for #ubuntu.07:10
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mag_arrenlex: I know, where are you froom ?07:11
sonicGBanyone know how to pull out a network driver (sky2) and replace it with the older sk98lin ? I'm not sufficiently ubuntu clued to know how to do it, but that might resolve MattDaPcWiz 's issue07:11
arrenlexmag_: ....why?07:11
sonicGBthe new sky2 driver in 6.10 breaks with marvell yukon07:11
Curs0ri've got beryl running with video on 3 sides of the cube, all my windows at 90% opaque and running a 3d game and it still doesn't overwork my machine... that's art07:11
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mag_arrenlex: Where are you from ?07:12
mag_arrenlex: that's my question !07:12
arrenlexCurs0r: My glxgears runs with 90fps when it's full screen. :D *dance*07:12
ski-worklapCurs0r, what sort of hardware?07:12
arrenlexmag_: Why do you ask?07:12
LookTJAnyone familer with syslinux?07:12
ski-worklaparrenlex, how can you tell how man fps your glxgears gets?07:12
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Curs0rx2 3800, 2gb pc-3200, 7800gtx07:12
jakub_sonicGB: rmmod and modprobe but you need to compile the kernel like i've said over and over07:12
arrenlexski-worklap: glxgears -print-fps07:12
minimanYAYY07:12
mag_arrenlex: it's only a question !07:12
arrenlexSorry, -printfps07:13
arrenlex^ ski-worklap07:13
minimanCan anyone recommend a codec pack for mp3/videos?07:13
MattDaPcWizwait07:13
MattDaPcWizhold on07:13
MattDaPcWizi have a driver from marvell07:13
MattDaPcWizbut i do not know how to install it07:13
Adlai_miniman, mplayer07:13
Born_In_Xixaxis it a linux driver?07:13
ski-worklaparrenlex, it's not printing anything?07:13
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: what file format is it? is it .ko?07:13
Adlai_you don't really need codec packs07:13
ski-worklapoh wait there it goes07:13
Adlai_those are windows07:13
minimanThank you Adlai_07:14
Geoffrey2sigh..............07:14
mag_arrenlex: becasue I'm drinking some beer and Don't I don't have someting that I can do ! lol07:14
sonicGBjakub_: compiling a kernel is a bit over the top for a n00b.... how about building a module and insmodding it?07:14
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MattDaPcWizbrb lemme check07:14
Adlai_if anything install win32codecs (or similar ubuntu release)07:14
mag_:D07:14
MattDaPcWizit came packed07:14
arrenlexGeoffrey2: Problems? =P07:14
ski-worklaphmm 40 fps, no beryl  :)07:14
Adlai_!mp3 | miniman07:14
ubotuminiman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:14
hondawhat does "Could not resolve 'archive.cannonical.com'" mean when i update synaptic?07:14
jakub_sonicGB: okay, fine if you want to get into the symantics, he has to compile a kernel *module* happy? he still needs to grab the sources doesn't he?07:14
sonicGBMattDaPcWiz: what's the driver that you have? on a CD or something? or downloaded?07:14
Born_In_XixaxsonicGB, could he use ndiswrapper with the win drivers for his marvell yukon?07:14
Curs0r6225 fps :D07:14
Born_In_Xixaxcan you not use ndiswrapper with regular ethernet adapters?07:14
arrenlexhonda: It means that you need to spell "canonical" correctly in /etc/apt/sources.list07:14
arrenlexCurs0r: With glx-gears fullscreen?07:15
jakub_sonicGB: and building a .deb out of it is better practice because he'll always have a copy that *worked*07:15
Adlai_ahh, it's w32codecs here07:15
sonicGBBorn_In_Xixax: maybe, but I don't think that's necessary. There are at least two different drivers for his card for Ubuntu... the one that 6.10 has by default is a bit borken07:15
Curs0rwhat's the fullscreen switch?07:15
sonicGBchanging to the other might be enough07:15
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sonicGBI've never tried ndiswrapper... used "project evil" on BSD though, that was a pretty cool bit of kit07:15
Born_In_Xixaxright, but ndiswrapper might be easier :)07:15
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jakub_sonicGB: ndiswrapper is a lot easier to use than ndisgen or ndiscvt on BSD07:16
Curs0roh  crap i have no idea how to kill beryl and get the max fps lol07:16
arrenlexCurs0r: Well, _I_ was just maximising my window... but -fullscreen is a valid switch.07:16
ski-worklapCurs0r, log off and start a new non-xgl session?07:16
Curs0rkk brb07:16
userundefineor just metacity --replace07:16
sonicGBignore jakub_07:16
Curs0ri like that one better07:16
Geoffrey2arrenlex, at this point I'm trying to decide whether I keep fighting Ubuntu, look at another distro, or just throw in the towel on the whole thing07:17
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MattDaPcWizalright im back and i have the contents of the file from MARVELL07:17
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jakub_sonicGB: what's your problem?07:17
arrenlexGeoffrey2: What's wrong?07:17
sonicGBcool... let us have it MattDaPcWiz07:17
arrenlexMattDaPcWiz: I remember that driver... never could get it to compile.07:17
MattDaPcWizit contains 4 files, install.sh, sk98lin.4, sk98lin.tar.bz2 and README07:18
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: tar jxvf sk98lin.tar.bz207:18
Born_In_Xixaxcheck the readme of course :)07:18
Curs0rarrenlex, 2657.754 FPS with the -fullscreen switch, no beryl07:18
MattDaPcWizyeh duhhhhhhh lol07:18
MattDaPcWizbut it does not help07:18
MattDaPcWizi type what it says07:19
sonicGBhow does it not help Matt? what have you tried?07:19
arrenlexjakub_: For your own knowledge you can just run "tar xf sk98lin.tar.bz2" -- it's more convenient. :)07:19
Born_In_Xixaxis it worth pastbin-ing?07:19
MattDaPcWizbut it says access denied07:19
jakub_the install script seems to be from autotools or something.. and the tarball might hold a generic i386 module07:19
minimanAhem... I just installed ubuntu last night, so could someone please help me out..I'm not sure as to what MPlayer to download07:19
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jakub_arrenlex: i don't think that's cross platform, better to have good practices for multiplatform use :)07:19
Geoffrey2arrenlex, well, right now everything is stable...it's a good bet tomorrow evening when I get home I'll have to reboot again.....I COULD just shut down the computer every time I leave it for a while, but then I'm not supposed to have to do that with Linux.....07:19
LookTJi'm having trouble creating a Liveusb07:19
jakub_MattDaPcWiz: you're probably uncompressing it to a directory you don't hae access to07:19
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emunhi everybody, need some help with installing canon pixma m150 multifunction printer on ubuntu 6.10, please I am anovice07:19
sonicGBMatt: try "sudo what-id-says"07:19
minimanAhem... I just installed ubuntu last night, so could someone please help me out..I'm not sure as to what MPlayer to download07:20
arrenlexjakub_: xjf isn't cross-platform either... on the solaris machines at school I actually have to bunzip first and tar xf the resulting ball.07:20
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userundefineGeoffrey2, why are you having to reboot right now07:20
sonicGBactually, I'd like to know what's in install.sh MattDaPcWiz07:20
missingarrenlex07:20
Curs0r74477 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14895.305 FPS <-- normal sized no beryl hahahaha07:20
MattDaPcWizsigh lol this would be SO MUCH EASIER if i was just on linux07:20
LookTJwhy doesn't the command(syslinux -s /dev/sda1) work?07:20
arrenlexmissing?07:20
missingarrenlex: you need to get automatix07:20
MattDaPcWizthe install.sh is huge07:20
jakub_arrenlex: ah good to know. but does solaris symlink bunzip to bunzip2? or is that another step that must be specified?07:21
sonicGBCurs0r: I hope you're talking about ethernet and not video!!! LOL07:21
arrenlexmissing: Why?07:21
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missingit will install everything you need for mplayer07:21
arrenlexCurs0r: What card? xD07:21
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missingso u can play mp3 and dvd07:21
kliptic.motd07:21
Curs0rarrenlex, 7800gtx07:21
MattDaPcWizbrb07:21
arrenlexjakub_: I use the bunzip command... never looked into how it was arranged.07:21
LookTJdon't use automatix07:21
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osahHello i need help :(07:21
arrenlexCurs0r: ...*dumb* that is what company?07:21
arrenlexmissing: I can play mp3 and dvd just fine. o_O I think you mistook me for someone.07:21
Curs0rNvidia made the chip, MSI made the card07:22
LookTJ!automatix | missing07:22
ubotumissing: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:22
arrenlexCurs0r: Ah. Nvidia. That explains it.07:22
osahI installed ubuntu, how do i access 'root'. It never asked me to supply a password. So what is the root password :/ There are some commands i need root for :/07:22
Born_In_Xixax!WorksForMe07:22
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.07:22
missingwell i cant in no way agree with you there07:22
arrenlexCurs0r: I'm running an ATI x300 ... and I have to use the open-source driver for 3D acceleration because fglrx was coded in notepad by a blindfolded intern as part of a hazing process.07:22
arrenlex!sudo | oash07:22
ubotuoash: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:22
Born_In_Xixaxlol07:22
Curs0ri got hooked on Nvidia about the time of the geforce207:22
LookTJbut on to my question07:23
Curs0rarrenlex, time will tell if AMD can save ATI07:23
arrenlexCurs0r: My old machine had a geforce 2... I miss those days. When 3D worked. Good days.07:23
missingautomatix has become a time saver and it does the same thing i would do myself like add repos and install software07:23
LookTJwhen i do syslinux -s /dev/sda107:23
osahcan anyone use sudo then?07:23
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osahor just my general account "osah"07:23
LookTJit says command not found07:23
Geoffrey2userundefine, well, after the computer sits running for a period of time, I'll find that I can't get ANYTHING to load....I also won't be able to shut down normally....at least arrenlex showed me the RSEIUB shutdown method, so I don't have to just hit the power button anymore :)07:23
arrenlexmissing: a) why are you telling me? and b) we don't recommend automatix here.07:23
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osahcan i do,  sudo passwd07:24
missingthats fine07:24
osahand add a root pw?07:24
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Madpilotos390, you could, but why?07:24
arrenlexoash: You can make a root account by using "sudo passwd root". However, it's recommended to just use sudo for all commands you need to run as root.07:24
Curs0rosah better probably to do sudo /bin/bash then run passwd then exit07:24
Madpilotosah, and by default, only the first account created will have sudo07:24
arrenlexCurs0r: "sudo -i" is what you're looking for.07:25
Curs0rarrenlex, i never read the manual ;)07:25
osahthx guys :D07:25
arrenlexCurs0r: Me neither. I just hang around here and watch everyone retrain the newbies.07:25
Curs0rkinda why i'm here rofl07:25
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emunneed help with printer installation, any suggestions , for canon mp15007:26
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arrenlexCurs0r: It's kind of hypocritical of me because I always make a root account and use su, myself, whenever I have more than one command in a row to run. But oh well. xD07:26
missinghell im the wrong network no wonder07:26
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Curs0ri'm happy as a pig in s&%t with the way my system is running, i just want to help where i can and learn tricks07:26
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Adlai_Curs0r, just hang out in the channel and watch people get questions answered07:27
arrenlexCurs0r: I was that way once. Then I ran apt-get upgrade one day and nothing was the same again.07:27
Adlai_I did that for a month in #gentoo and learned almost everything I know07:27
Curs0ri used to hang in #gentoo but i got bored with the achingly long builds07:28
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arrenlexCurs0r: Indeed. Life is too short to run gentoo.07:28
osahHey guys how come when i try to play a 3D game on ubuntu its lagging. I installed nvidia-drivers for it using  apt-get and i rebooted.07:28
Curs0rI like its performance but i never got this kind of stability07:28
osahhow can view which driver i got installed07:28
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Curs0rosah, what's your gpu?07:28
MattDaPcWizok one thing just ONE THING, i just need to know how to log in as root, what is the password for root?07:29
sonicGBthere isn't one Matt...07:29
osahcpu is  Amd 2100,  1.7ghz,  1gig ram,  nvidia gforce 4.  on windows all games run smooth. (im trying to run dreamchess) a .deb game07:29
sonicGBuse sudo07:29
MadpilotMattDaPcWiz, there isn't one by default07:29
sonicGBso "sudo <comman>"07:29
Madpilotubotu, sudo | MattDaPcWiz07:29
ubotuMattDaPcWiz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:29
sonicGBand it will ask for password07:29
MattDaPcWizbut i typed in nothing07:29
MattDaPcWizand it said incorrect password07:29
MadpilotMattDaPcWiz, sudo uses the user pw you gave during install... see the URL the bot gave you07:30
MattDaPcWizkk07:30
Curs0rosah, did you use the standard driver or the beta from... what's the repo... albertonline?07:30
sonicGBMatt: when I say there isn't one, I don't mean it's blank... I mean ... it's well, who knows07:30
sonicGBbut you don't need it.07:30
sonicGBsudo runs any command as root, and it asks for your own password07:30
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osahCurs0r, i used, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx07:30
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Curs0rosah, but you didn't add any repos first right?07:31
osahyup i didnt add anything07:31
Curs0rok07:31
osahjust found that command from forum07:31
wabbitHi all !! I'm trying to install Xgl/Compix but find that the gnome-window-decorator command is missing. Have I missed something??07:31
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Curs0rubuntuguid.org has the info for installing the nvidia beta driver07:31
arrenlexosah: What's the output of "glxinfo | grep ender"?07:31
Curs0rubuntuguide.org*07:31
sonicGBhmmm, it's really beginning to look like all this published ubuntu philosophy of helping, not giving people grief, etc, etc is honoured more in the breach than in actual practice!07:31
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osahglxinfo | grep ender07:32
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doomed /server irc.hydrochat.net07:32
MadpilotsonicGB, how so?07:32
osahreturned   direct rendering: no ,  opengl renderer string: MESA GLX Indirect07:32
Geoffrey2sigh...I say again, sigh.... :)07:33
arrenlexosah: That's why your game is lagging. =P You're not using the 3D driver.07:33
osahdo you have any link, or command which would enable it07:33
arrenlexosah: What's the output of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep iver | grep nv"?07:33
sonicGBMadpilot: I've just seen a couple of newbies get some very average advice today (as in unhelpful) and then they've wandered off frustrated and probably more lost than when they came in07:33
osahits     Driver  "nv"07:34
Curs0rosah, eureka07:34
arrenlexosah: That's your problem.07:34
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osahhow would i change it? :/07:34
MadpilotsonicGB, there's always a few, yeah - but most people get help, assuming they're willing to help themelves...07:34
arrenlexosah: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:34
osahi've been a Windows user for 8 years. Just got ubuntu today, i love it.07:34
sonicGBMadpilot: yeah, there is that! :-)07:34
arrenlexosah: Choose "nvidia"07:35
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arrenlexosah: If "nvidia" is not available, you do not have that driver installed yet. You need to install it.07:35
LookTJgrr i can't install the syslinux bootloader07:35
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LookTJtaylor@dapper:~$ syslinux /dev/sda107:35
LookTJsh: mcopy: command not found07:35
LookTJsyslinux: failed to create ldlinux.sys07:35
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LookTJPlease help if you could07:36
osahnvidia is not available,  but   nv  is?07:36
osahwould that be it07:36
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Curs0rosah,  i installed windows vista and 2 hours later deleted all win32 code from my pc07:36
arrenlexsonicGB: It's just that people don't know how to help with some things, especially very specific things. But if we just ignore people they start yelling at us. It's hard to find a middle ground, so people give "advice" to make askers feel like they've not been shafted, but at the same time not very useful advice because they don't know much about it.07:36
CoRnJuLiOxhey, has anyone here tried out the flash player 9 beta?07:36
emunnewbie here who is not getting nothing about how to install printer  canon pixma mp15007:36
arrenlexosah: You need to install it then. Press ctrl+c to exist that configuration utility; you don't need it right now.07:36
arrenlexosah: Follow this guide:07:36
arrenlex!nvidia | osah07:36
ubotuosah: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:36
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minimanomg07:38
minimanI fucked ubuntu up D:07:38
sonicGBemun: mp150... is that a printer or a multifunction?07:38
Geoffrey2if I wanted to totally disable my wireless device so ubuntu wouldn't even look at it, what's the best way to do that...keeping in mind I might want to re-enable it down the road....07:38
minimanautomatix2 fucked up my ubuntu :(07:38
sonicGBGeoffrey2: it it's a laptop, you can disable the hardware in bios?07:38
arrenlexsonicGB: For example, I don't use Gnome or synaptic, so when people ask how to, for example, configure the sound or add repositories, the only way in which I could help them would be to give them command line instructions, which are confusing and unnecessary since there's a GUI way to do it. So I stay quiet a lot of times because I don't want my help to hurt them. I imagine a lot of people have come up with weird ways to do what they want 07:38
sonicGBif it's a dell laptop, you press function-f2 to turn the device on/off!07:38
arrenlex!language | miniman07:38
ubotuminiman: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:38
minimankk.07:39
dustrhha07:39
minimanbrb07:39
dustrhobey the bot!07:39
Curs0rchastized by a bot lol07:39
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sonicGBarrenlex: I know what you're saying. I just you just have to work on that sixth sense, figureing out what advice is right for what people, and sticking to answering the ones you can!07:39
emunsonicgb. it is a multifunction, scanner/printer/ copier07:40
sonicGBI don't see how trying to convince someone to go back to windows because his network card works there is 'helping' though!07:40
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sonicGBemun: I'm digging for info, but multifunction is what I was afraid of. Those things can be tricky...07:40
Curs0rsonicGB, I see our point, that's not exactly "ubuntu help" is it?07:41
Curs0ryour*07:41
arrenlexsonicGB: I had that network card, and I resorted to unscrewing my old box and stealing one of the NICs from there just so I could have internet. What kind of advice is that? xD07:41
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sonicGBemun: the first advice I'm gonna give is think outside the square. in a lot of cases with printers in particular, a driver from a similar model printer will often work... so keep an eye out for solutions for other similar machines.... I'm googling at the moment....07:42
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emunsonicgb thanks for trying I hope yiu can find something for me07:42
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Varangerhello07:42
Varangerhow can I take a snapshot of my X desktop from the console??07:42
Curs0ri only have 1 hardware issue with ubuntu, all linux really and it's kinda dumb... my backlighted keyboard uses the scroll lock key for the switch07:42
sonicGBemun: I'm finding two year old info that says your printer isn't supported with linux. That might be out of date info, but it looks like turboprint (USD$39.00 IIRC) might support it...07:44
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thesandCan someone please post the link for the binarydriverhowto again? (installing ATI driver)07:44
osahCurs0r, i did follow all the steps but i return "unable to load nvidia kernel driver~ BNe sure to have installted the nvidia driver for your running kenrle,:07:44
Jordan_U!ati | thesand07:44
ubotuthesand: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:44
sonicGBemun: I know it's kinda useless advice after the fact, but I try to search for drivers before I buy the equipment! :-)07:44
thesandThanks!!07:44
Born_In_Xixaxemun: 2 minutes on google, turned up a forum post indicating Canon does not have linux support for the mp150 and does not plan to, as well as a link to http://www.turboprint.info/ where apparently you can buy a 3rd party driver for 39 dollars07:44
osahJordan_U, yup thats what i followed. Didnt help :( hmh not sure what im doing wrong07:45
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Curs0rosah, run lsmod | grep -i nvidia07:45
Jordan_Uthesand: When in doubt always search wiki.ubuntu.com07:45
osahCurs0r, returns nothing07:45
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Jordan_Uosah: sudo modprobe nvidia07:45
wabbitHi all I've just got Compiz/Xgl running but effects like cube switcher wobbly and missing even though the are invoked with no error.07:46
Curs0rJordan_U, beat me to it lol07:46
osahreturns  not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:46
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Madpilotwabbit, #ubuntu-xgl07:46
wabbithey thanks07:46
Curs0rosah no worries, you're almost there07:46
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Capslock118for anyone who knows cedega, why wont it install a game?07:46
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Curs0rosah, what that means is that the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf still points to the driver "nv" instead of "nvidia"07:47
emunsonicgb, actually hsd the printer before I decided to install ubuntu, used it in windows07:47
sonicGBemun: ah, sorry... I think you said you only got ubuntu today, right? :-)07:48
Curs0rosah, you can edit that file manually or try the interface switcher again07:48
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osahCurs0r, in config now i see nvidia07:48
Curs0rosah, awesome!07:48
osahnow its asking me for07:48
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osahPCI BUS number..  lspci  doesnt show me any,07:48
Curs0rhow bout lspci -v07:49
emunborn in xixax, is the no other way to get the printer to apart from having to dole out $3907:49
sonicGBemun: do you realise that you'll effectively be treating this mp150 as a bunch of kljlknlk;n (cat typing!) seperate devices (scanner, printer, etc) and that you'll be instlaling them seperately?07:49
osahit shows umm  01:00.007:49
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sonicGBhyyyyyyyyyu666707:49
sonicGBoops, cat typing07:49
Born_In_Xixaxemun, that's just what i found in 2 min on google, but it doesn't sound promising07:49
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osahso would the bus be  PCI:01:00.007:49
Varangerhow can I take a snapshot of my X desktop from the console??07:50
osahor PCI:01:00:0 .. ?07:50
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sonicGBemun: for the printing part, this might be useful ( a bit of a messy install, no point/click sorry)   http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/#canon07:50
Jordan_UVaranger: gnome-screenshot07:50
Curs0rosah, I unfortunately have not used that utility before, I usually edit my configs manually07:50
sonicGBenum: that page has some info about support for a few other mpXXX printers, so you MIGHT get lucky and get the mp150 printing for free that way07:51
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Curs0rarrenlex, you still there?07:51
emunactually if I can get the pirinter to work I will be happy07:51
sonicGBemun: if you go down the turboprint route, try the demo download first, to make sure it works before you pay!07:51
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sonicGBemun: actually, I suspect that the scanner part might be easier! :-)07:52
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VarangerJorgan_U: thanks07:53
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emunok I will take a look at turboprint, by the way are there  any printers that work with ubuntu without a hassle07:53
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Born_In_XixaxI understand HP printers have good linux support07:54
Curs0rosah, i know it will work if you escape that utility and nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, scroll down to the Device section, and change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia". I'm sure there are plenty of ways but that is just muscle memory to me07:54
sonicGBemun: scanning support is coming soon, looks like.... http://pixma.schewe.com/07:54
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arrenlexosah: This might be a little too late, but you don't need to put a PCI bus.07:54
arrenlexosah: That is an "advanced" field.07:54
Curs0rarrenlex, ah, there you are... I was fumbling hehehe07:55
sonicGBemun: I use a samsung ML-1610... it's a little laser with usb... costs about AUD$180.00... I'm happy withh it07:55
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sonicGBthe samsungs work well with winders and linux, but so far I haven't got it working with mac07:55
emunthank you so much for the info07:55
arrenlexBorn_In_Xixax: HP has fantastic support for Linux. The hplip package provides support for faxing, printing and scanning (and by extension, all-in-ones) while the hpiijs package is for inkjet printers only, but either way it's definitely well-supported.07:56
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sonicGBemun: but like I was saying about looking for drivers for other similar machines, the samsung is a good example. I'm using the Samsung ML-1700 driver to run my ML-1610 printer!07:56
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sonicGBemun: you're welcome. I hope it's of some help!07:56
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sorush20how do I check what my default java is ?07:56
arrenlexemun: I am using a ppd file that I almost accidentally found on the internet to run my Lexmark laser printer -- they only provide drivers for RedHat, as if anyone still uses it.07:57
Born_In_Xixaxsorush20: 'java -version'07:57
sphorbisquestion: i'm trying to install compiz and i installed the nvidia drivers, when i tried to restart x.org it said that the config files didnt match. any ideas?07:57
sonicGBBorn_In_Xixax: I was madly trying java --version -v -V... nothing worked <slaps forehead!>07:57
emunI will consider an hp next time , by how did you go through the installation process for the samsung07:58
saturnine_feihello, I just received my new nvidia 7950 and put it in my newly installed ubuntu system and now cannot really boot.  I am currently logged in on that system on the console, but no graphics are working. Can someone tell me where I can get some instructions for getting and installing the drivers (esp. installing)?07:58
osahCurs0r, i got it saying now  Driver: nvidia.   But   direct rendering: No  still07:58
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arrenlexosah: You've restarted X, right?07:58
osahnot yet07:58
sonicGBemun: the hard part was getting my head around CUPS... it's a bit wierd (but I needed it set up as a network printer that some winders machines could access)....07:58
arrenlexosah: XD.07:58
osahdo i reboot whole pc07:58
osah?07:58
Born_In_Xixaxosah: log out, then back in07:59
osahor just logoff username and log back in07:59
arrenlexosah: You don't need to. Just issue "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"07:59
osahoh ok07:59
Born_In_Xixaxfancy!07:59
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arrenlex...actually, that might not restart X itself, in hindsight.07:59
Curs0rarrenlex, you forgot ctrl+alt+bksp08:00
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Curs0rat gdm08:00
sonicGBemun: a lot of the little printers are more difficult 'cos they're built for winders and they rely on windows drivers to do a lot of the printing work... when you move them to another OS, nothing works. A slightly bigger printer that has its own 'brains' is a lot easier to connect to a non-windows OS, because things like HP-PCL and Postcript  are supported by everything. For example, way back in windows 3.1 days, ANY postscript printer w08:00
arrenlexCurs0r: ctrl+alt+bksp is a hard restart of the X server you can issue anywhere.08:00
emunactualy my mp150 was set up with windows on a network with a netgear print server08:00
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arrenlexsonicGB: You got a little wordy and were cut off at "ANY postscript printer".08:00
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Curs0rarrenlex, in my experience it's best not to do it logged in... well i haven't tried that in a long time...08:00
sonicGBemun: the easiest way out of the printing problem is to look for a non-windows printer, something that speaks a standard language like postscript or PC.... look at the side of the box.. if it says "Requires windows" then you're prolly going to have grief with it!08:01
arrenlexCurs0r: In the sense that it kills everything you have open, yeah. In the sense that it's somehow bad for your system no.08:01
sonicGBall but the smallest HP printers fit in that category.08:01
sonicGBinkjets are almost universially difficult08:01
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osahok im back08:02
arrenlexemun: The easiest way out of the printing problem is to actually look at linuxprinting.org before you start.08:02
arrenlexosah: Hiya.08:02
sonicGBbrb, coffee08:02
osahi would like to thank you Curs0r  and you arrenlex  :) good job it works fine.08:02
osah:D08:02
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arrenlexosah: Hurrah!08:02
saturnine_feiguess not...08:02
Curs0rosah, good to hear08:02
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sonicGBarrenlex: in this case he got the printer before he got linux!08:02
osahdo you recommend any website learning some basics like i have no clue what grep does... :)08:02
emunI see I am learning a lot , what is this postscript08:02
osahits my first time on linux.. been on windows since win9508:02
arrenlexsonicGB: I'm aware of that. We were in the hypothetical situation of "how to avoid the printing problem" and I pitched in for future reference.08:03
arrenlexosah: I've been on Windows since 3.1 =O08:03
Curs0rosah, hang out for a while, learn how the utilities are used by watching others08:03
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osahi was wondering, when i run an application from console for example  "xchat" if i close console xchat closes. I know there is a command to make it run but i still can type other commands in console..08:03
sonicGBemun: postscript is a language, closely related to PDF in some ways actually, that was one of the first widely used printing languages. It's  a 'page description' language.. "put this text here" draw a circle that big over there, etc, etc...08:03
Curs0rarrenlex, sysedit was oh-so-useful wasn't it?08:03
sonicGBa lot of printers support it....08:04
arrenlexCurs0r: I don't know. o_o I was 8.08:04
arrenlexCurs0r: I didn't mess with the internals at that age.08:04
Lunisi'm trying to sync my sony clie to ubuntu edgy via gnome-pilot. i am running the "wizard" for gnome-pilot, and it asks for information and i fill it out, it says it will send owner data, and to press the hotsync button. I do that, and two gnome-pilot windows pop up on top, but none of them seem to detect the device. I'm using /proc/bus/usb/devices as the path to my cradle (usb). am i doing this right?08:04
TefadStarcraftmazter: you might also want to poke in #ubuntu-server08:04
Curs0rarrenlex, haha08:04
sonicGBthe same with PCL... I think PCL came from HP (ie: HP-PCL, PCL5, PCL6)... but a LOT of other printers also run a clone of that language...08:04
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Adlai_osah, your window manager probably has a "run command..." function, but if you want to do it from command prompt, type in "xchat &"08:04
saturnine_feithis forum was suggested for help with ubuntu.  how does one get a question answered?08:04
Born_In_Xixaxosah: you may find it nice to use 'Alt+F2' to open a 'run' command window and issue it there08:04
osahyup that was it  & sign :D08:04
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Curs0rarrenlex, i had a trash-80 at that age08:04
osah:o thxs Born_In_Xixax08:05
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arrenlexosah: "grep" prints the lines from a file that match a string you give it. Like, if you have a file with the lines "one","two", and "three" in it (those words on separate lines), then if you grep that file with "one" you will get one. If you grep that file with "t" you will get two and three. Understand? It filters by pattern.08:05
sonicGBemun: in either case, theprint drivers just make a big file with all the 'page description' stuff in it, and throw it at the printer via usb, paralle, ethernetc, whatever... and the printer figures it out!08:05
arrenlexosah: I just had you take your entire X config file and only print the lines that contained "nv".08:05
Random_Transithey, this is gonna sound like an odd question, but is ubotu (the channel bot) open source??08:05
osaharrenlex, oh ic :)08:05
Curs0rosah you can always use the info tools as well if you have a question about the usage of a program08:05
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emunit looks like it was some proprietary language, why dont all printers use the same language08:05
Curs0rosah, ie"info grep"08:05
osahdo you guys recommend any  mp3 player that runs from console.. if any08:06
sonicGBemun: the difference between that approach and the smaller 'GDI' printers (aka "Windows Printers") is that they rely on the operating system to do almost all of the processing, and that makes it really difficult to move them to a different OS08:06
arrenlexemun: Trade secrets. Capitalism. Patenting.08:06
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sonicGBarrenlex: re future info... no worries... I wasn't having a go at you :-)08:06
arrenlexosah: mplayer! ^__^08:06
Born_In_Xixaxosah: mplayer runs from the console08:06
Curs0rosah, mplayer is uber133708:06
arrenlexosah: Also, mplayer plays anything. Literally, like, I've yet to find ANY FILE mplayer can't play.08:06
arrenlexmplayerismygod.08:07
osahi was wondering there is this command " deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian" for example. if i type that in console it returns deb unknown command.08:07
emunthanks for the explanation , I am really impressed with this forum08:07
Curs0rosah, mplayer is also the media layer of choice for the xbox media center softmod lol08:07
arrenlexosah: What are you trying to do?08:07
sonicGBarrenlex: "cat /dev/random | mplayer" ?? :-) :-) :-)08:07
michaeljustmanI was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with the ATI Radeon Xpress 200M video adapter and getting it to work with 3D exceleration?08:07
osaharrenlex just trying to download a package08:07
sonicGBu welcome enum08:07
osahalot of websites have it listed like that08:07
saturnine_feii guess one doesn't if they aren't already known to the in-crowd ...  So much for ubuntu's friendly helpful community reputation...08:08
osahit says to add it to  /etc/apt/sources.list08:08
sonicGBsaturnine_fei: there's no in-crowd that.... blast, he left08:08
sonicGB*sigh*08:08
osahand the package would install :/08:08
Random_Transitlol08:08
arrenlexosah: That's right. Open /etc/apt/sources.list in an editor and add that line to it. Then you can grab the package with apt-get.08:08
osahooh ic08:08
arrenlexosah: Those lines are like addresses for apt. They tell it where on the internet to look for packages.08:08
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arrenlexosah: If you have a .deb file sitting on your hard drive that you want to install, you use sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>08:09
Random_Transitso can anyone answer my rather unorthodox question?08:09
arrenlexosah: That translates into commands as "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", paste that line, save, close, "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install <packageyouwant>"08:09
sonicGBRandom_Transit: what's the question? I missed it.08:09
Random_Transitis ubotu (the channel bot) open source??08:09
sonicGBLOL08:10
emunis there a place where I can learn how to use CUPS08:10
Random_Transittold you it was an odd question08:10
strabesRandom_Transit: yeah that is really random. i suspect you could get the code for it somewhere08:10
strabesask one of the mods maybe08:10
sonicGBemun: a nice place to start with CUPS is to find a brick wall and slam your head on it a few times <GRIN> :-) it's a strange bit of code, a bit tricky.... wait...08:10
Born_In_Xixaxi imagine there a jillion open source irc bots08:11
Random_Transitstrabes...if only the mods were here somewhere08:11
arrenlexRandom_Transit: They're all in #ubuntu-ops08:11
emunWOW are you serious is it that bad08:11
gotitjillion?? how many zeros in it08:11
Random_Transitoh yeah...08:11
strabesRandom_Transit: you can call them with !mods i think but people seem to get upset08:11
strabesor !ops i mean08:11
strabesi dont remember08:11
arrenlexstrabes: Please don't use !ops unless someone is abusing the channel.08:11
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sonicGBemun: I'm exagerrating. Actually, it's really pretty good... it's just that the config files are a bit 'different'. :-)08:11
strabesarrenlex: yeah see that's what i thought08:11
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sonicGBemun: http://www.cups.org/cups-help.html  <--- that's the official site08:12
michaeljustmandoes anyone know where to download the old ATI drivers (8.24.8 hopefull) precompiled?  I can't seem to compile them and my graphics card hates the newest ones.08:12
Random_Transitand i guess me just waltzing into the ops channel and asking for ubotu's code would be really odd08:12
MatthewVRandom_Transit, you are looking for a blootbot08:12
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arrenlexsonicGB: Isn't there some graphical utility to configure printing? KDE has kprinter so I've never even had to touch cups itself after apt-get install cupsys... everything was handled by a fantastic GUI.08:12
tonyyarussoRandom_Transit: Meanwhile, ubotu is a supybot; the supybot base code is in the repos, and the entire code for ubotu itself is also available.08:12
MadpilotRandom_Transit, the bot is GPL'd, the bot has a URL for it's own code available...08:12
Madpilot!bot08:12
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:12
osahis ubuntu 6.10  Edgy?08:12
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Madpilotosah, no - 6.10 is Feist; 6.06 is Edgy08:13
Curs0ri'd say it's fairly well mannered lol08:13
sonicGBarrenlex: ah, yes... emun, I should add that I'm absolutely no expert on anything GUI-related on linux/unix... I use them as servers, I do it all on command line...08:13
arrenlexRandom_Transit: naw, they're pretty good. It depends on who's there. I've asked them some stuff several times and they're really nice... it depends on who's there.08:13
MatthewVRandom_Transit, sry, old ubotu was a blootbot, tonyyarusso is correct on the new ubotu08:13
Curs0rMadpilot, ummm, you sure about that?08:13
tonyyarussoMadpilot: Um....you're wrong....08:13
sonicGBarrenlex: actually, once installed, CUPS is all web based.08:13
arrenlexRandom_Transit: People like tonyyaruso and madpilot are fantastic... others are total jerks.08:13
arrenlex...08:13
arrenlexHi tony. xD08:13
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tonyyarussoHi arrenlex :)08:13
Born_In_Xixax6.10 = Edgy EFT08:13
Madpilottonyyarusso, gah, sorry. Is late here, can you tell?08:14
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tonyyarussoMadpilot: You're three hours behind me!08:14
tonyyarusso;)08:14
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Madpilottonyyarusso, maybe, but I've been up since 060008:14
XYZmale_SMGmesra.dak.net08:14
sonicGBwhat's with all the names for distros anyway? that's the one thing that REALLY confuses me about *ubuntu... I can never figure out the names... I know what 5.xx, 6.04, 6.10 means though! :-)08:14
SilentDis!beryl08:14
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:14
refus3dberyl rocks!!!08:15
refus3di got it up and running08:15
=== Curs0r dances the Beryl happy dance
arrenlexI had beryl. But it crashed a lot.08:15
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refus3darrenlex, i can see how that might be a problem it is a still a beta08:15
Curs0rarrenlex, it crashed constantly on FC6 for me, on Edgy, it's solid as a rock08:15
emuni will check out the cups official site, thanks again , another question . what commands do you use when you download something and you have to compile it08:15
refus3dive had some minor problems so far but its cool enuff to keep it around08:16
sonicGBbrb... coffee...08:16
arrenlex!compile | emun08:16
ubotuemun: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:16
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todgerhi there what is the biggest file i can make with ubuntu?08:17
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arrenlextodger: ...what do you mean?08:17
arrenlextodger: For kicks? As big as your hard drive. o_O08:17
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Curs0rhas anyone established a method to use multiple wallpapers with beryl?08:19
proqesi`todger: that's a kernel question, not an ubuntu question08:20
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emunthanks again,08:20
todgerwell you guys don't seem to no08:20
Curs0rtodger, you were told already08:20
Pablohow can I make a command like "sudo pppd call 1xevdo" not leave an open terminal when executed08:20
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Curs0rarrenlex> todger: For kicks? As big as your hard drive. o_O08:20
raknami've been looking into installing ubuntu, suse or gentoo and i was wondering why you guys would recommend ubuntu over those other two08:21
Random_Transitraknam...ease of use08:22
Random_Transitease of installation08:22
Curs0rraknam, much greater stability with my system than gentoo or suse08:22
Random_Transitgentoo is a bitch if you don't have a decent processor08:22
Random_Transityou'll spend weeks compiling KDE08:22
ski-worklapbut gentoo lets you optimize everything!!!!08:22
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ski-worklapso after you spend 3 months compiling, everything goes 0.02% faster08:22
ski-worklap... if it's not io bound08:23
Random_Transithahaha08:23
Curs0rski-worklap, yes it does, which is great if you know everything about everything08:23
ski-worklapCurs0r, and have the time to drop08:23
Random_Transitgentoo is a pain in the ass08:23
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Random_TransitSuSE is nice, but still based on DeadHat08:23
Curs0rand a time thief08:23
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proqesi`todger: it's as many bytes as you can index with an off_t08:24
Random_Transitand, in using the RPM system, dependancy hell is still a problem08:24
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Curs0rubuntu is small and smooth08:24
Random_Transityep08:24
sonicGBthis seems like an appropriate time to mention the "Gentoo is for Rice Boys" page! :-)08:24
refus3dwhat do you think of my desktop08:24
Curs0rand extremely well documented08:24
arrenlextodger: if you were serious about that question, it's 2 Terabytes.08:24
refus3dhttp://img304.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8381yg6.png08:24
Random_TransitSuSE is great, but a bit bloated08:24
Random_TransitUbuntu is insanely secure08:25
nzhomiecould someone please help me . there is no wpa_supplicant.conf in the /etc/ folder08:25
arrenlexAAAAH! Linux vista!! AAAAH08:25
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Random_Transitrofl08:25
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Random_Transittoo true08:25
proqesi`ewww bad UI08:25
refus3dmuch better than lista08:25
refus3dvista08:25
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refus3dthere is only one thing that is like vista08:25
refus3dthe buttons...08:26
edog^^^what params should I give fchk after my comp dies because of a power outage?08:26
administratorwhat the fuck is this?08:26
ski-worklap"ubuntu is insanely secure" got any facts to back that up?08:26
arrenlex!language | administrator08:26
sonicGBrefus3d: not true. My cat's litter tray is a lot like Vista!08:26
ubotuadministrator: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:26
Curs0rrefus3d, i think i'll draw my own buttons and save the $400 thank you08:26
Random_Transitin my time using ubuntu, i've seen ONE security issue pop up, and it was fixed in a matter of minutes08:26
administratorsorry08:26
administratorI am brand new to a linux chat room08:26
arrenlexRandom_Transit: If you want real security, use FreeBSD or OpenBSD.08:26
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ski-worklaparrenlex, you mean use openbsd08:26
administratorand this just took me strait into it.08:26
arrenlexBSD:Linux::Linux:Windows08:27
ski-worklapfreebsd has gone waaaay downhill from 4.x08:27
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arrenlexski-worklap: I wouldn't know. I don't BSD.08:27
Random_Transitarrenlex, sure, but they're a pain to set up08:27
refus3dCurs0r, i didnt't exzactly spend 400 dollars on a beryl theme08:27
administratorI am using mepis08:27
sonicGB<slashdot>FreeBSD is dying!!!</>08:27
arrenlexxD08:27
nzhomiecould someone please help me . there is no wpa_supplicant.conf in the /etc/ folde08:27
arrenlex<3 Slashdot.08:27
Curs0rrefus3d, haha i thought you were speaking of windows08:27
Random_TransitFreeBSD is DEAD!! LONG LIVE OSX!!!08:27
sonicGBI converted my last FreeBSD box to gentoo about a year ago...08:27
arrenlexadministrator: Okay, what's your question?08:28
strabesyeah i heard freebsd is kinda suk now08:28
administratornot sure08:28
sonicGBactually, no I think I still have one somewhere... a massive 60MHz Pentium 1....08:28
arrenlex...08:28
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refus3di heard bsd kind of sucks08:28
ski-worklapopenbsd is great08:28
ski-worklapnetbsd is interesting08:28
Random_Transitrefus3d, it used to be great08:28
ski-worklapfreebsd was nice08:28
sonicGBI heard that people who say BSD sucks suck!08:28
nzhomiecould someone please help me . there is no wpa_supplicant.conf in the /etc/ folder08:28
ski-worklapnzhomie, we heard you the first time, we dunno08:29
proqesi`I heard this is offtopic!08:29
sonicGBI really like FreeBSD. I still have a holey old FreeBSD t-shirt here somewhere, as evidence of my allegiance!08:29
ski-worklapbe patient, someone will come around who does know08:29
Random_Transitnzhomie, what are you trying to do?08:29
administratorI have a great question for all of you smart people in here08:29
Random_Transitoh?08:29
arrenlexadministrator: It's true. e does, in fact, equal mc^2.08:29
nzhomieits just i got no respone so i was like ok maybe they didn't see08:29
arrenlexI asked it.08:29
Random_Transitplease share with the rest of the class, administrator08:29
Curs0rthere are smart people in here? ^-^08:29
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sonicGBit's been my universal experience that people on usenet who call themselves "administrator" are trouble! :-) Does that cross over to irc I wonder?08:29
ski-worklapCurs0r, yes, you and only you08:29
nzhomiei need to configure wpa supplicant and there is no .conf file in the etc folder and i just installed it. am i looking in the right place08:30
Curs0rski-worklap, i would never make any such claim08:30
Random_Transitnzhomie, i would think so...possibly stuffed in a subfolder of etc08:30
nzhomieok cheers08:30
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administratorwho claims to be the god of knowledge?08:31
sonicGBhttp://darnfineshirts.com/out.php?u=iseestupidpeople08:31
arrenlexadministrator: ubotu is the god of knowledge.08:31
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Curs0rlove those darling little bots08:32
Random_Transitadministrator, the ancient greeks claimed it was Prometheus08:32
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arrenlexnzhomie: I googled for "ubuntu wpa_supplicant.conf missing" and got http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78983.html as a result... the very last post in particular seems helpful. Does that help you?08:32
Random_Transitarrenlex, i think nzhomie went afk08:32
administratorI have some news for you08:32
arrenlexAh.08:32
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nzhomienam im still here08:32
Gizmo1Anyone know how to set up dual monitors?08:33
administratorI AM THE GOD OF KNOWLEDGE08:33
nzhomiewill look at the link now08:33
yakumois it possible to use gaim messenger with webcam capability???08:33
Curs0row my freakin ears08:33
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arrenlexyakumo: No.08:33
nzhomiegizmol, obviously you will need a video card with 2 outputs08:33
Random_Transitthat's nice administrator....08:33
administratorhhhhhhhhhhhh08:33
arrenlexyakumo: If you're thinking of MSN specifically, amsn supports voice and video chat.08:33
administratoryou like that?08:33
nzhomieyakumo, get aMSN it has webcam08:33
Gizmo1I have 2 cards (identical)08:33
FirstStrikeYea, I use amsn..works quite nicely.08:33
FirstStrikeEven lets you save the webcam sessions for later viewing08:34
Curs0rwas that a very long exhale? or did your cat step on your keyboard?08:34
refus3dhttp://img288.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beryl1wv8.png08:34
arrenlexFirstStrike: What happens if you press shift+backspace in amsn?08:34
sonicGByakumo: I second what arrenlex says re aMSN... it's really very good. Strangely, the windows port is a bit wierd looking, but I'm using the mac one here, and ... it's good08:34
yakumo<nzhomie> how about the yahoo messenger08:34
FirstStrikeNothing08:34
nzhomiegizmol, are they both installed?08:34
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Gizmo1Yes08:34
nzhomiewhat about it ?08:34
arrenlexFirstStrike: Really. I've always gotten a \B character.08:34
Random_Transitadministrator, sure...why not try shouting like that some more...someone's bound to notice eventually08:34
nzhomiehave you tried connecting the two monitors one 2 each card does it work ?08:34
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arrenlexrefus3d: Except for the ugly panel at the bottom, that is one slick desktop.08:35
nzhomiewhat about yahoo messenger?08:35
Random_Transitnzhomie, i like Kopete08:35
Gizmo1No,   One works the other is full of trash08:35
arrenlexrefus3d: And the menubars.08:35
sonicGBnzhomie: in kubuntu, kopete is great... not so sure about gnome sorry08:35
FirstStrikepeople don't really like my gnome skin, but it suits me08:35
sonicGBwill kopete work on gnome/ubuntu?08:35
Random_TransitsonicGB, kopete will still work under gnome08:35
refus3ddo show FirstStrike08:35
administratorRnadom Transit: have you noticed?08:35
Curs0rI'm too ugly for a webcam, I use bitlbee lol08:35
sonicGBRandom_Transit: cool... then nzhomie , check out kopete... it's pretty good..08:36
nzhomiewill it work with gnome /08:36
Gizmo1???08:36
FirstStrikehttp://strikethis.com/wall.jpg08:36
Random_TransitsonicGB, nzhomie, any and all KDE apps will work fine in GNOME08:36
sonicGBCurs0r: I have a great face for voice chat! :-) a great face for irc!08:36
arrenlexnzhomie: Yes.08:36
Random_Transitbecause apt auto installs the kde libs08:36
nzhomiewuicked08:37
sonicGBahhh, ok, cool...08:37
refus3dFirstStrike, i dont like the stacked panels08:37
arrenlexMine is pretty standard... but I like it.08:37
arrenlexhttp://arrenlex.diff.be/screenshots/5605.png08:37
FirstStrikei can't stand having one on top and one on the bottom08:37
Random_Transityeah, actually, the KDE libs are a part of the default install for ubu since Breezy08:37
FirstStrikeon every fresh install of ubuntu the first thing i do is drag the top panel to the bottom08:38
Curs0rFirstStrike, me too08:38
Alakazamz0rAnyone have any clues on this? Im stumped: http://phpfi.com/18517308:38
administratorplbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb08:38
Curs0rinvariably some frickin window ends up getting stuck under that top bar08:38
FirstStrikehmm..i've never had that happen.08:39
refus3dvery boring arrenlex08:39
Random_Transitpersonally, i leave my gnome panels untouched08:39
Random_Transitmore or less08:39
arrenlexrefus3d: Yeah. But convenient. ^^08:39
FirstStrikemy firefox theme is black as well..it matches the gnome theme well.08:39
FirstStrikeplus, i have dslreports with its black theme so..yea.08:39
FirstStrikeno, i'm not emo or goth.08:39
FirstStrikei just hate bright colors08:39
Random_Transitlol08:39
Alakazamz0ranyone?08:39
administratorSssssssssssssoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo08:40
sonicGBAlakazamz0r: funny thing is, I can ping the ip from here no worries...08:40
fyrestrtrAlakazamz0r: what's there to be stumped about? The host is offline.08:40
Alakazamz0ri know08:40
Alakazamz0rweird eh.08:40
arrenlexI can't use a system with dark colours... I've been trained by Windows to have white backgrounds and black text.08:40
Alakazamz0rfyrestrtr, no its not.08:40
Alakazamz0rmikeking.bounceme.net = the machine im typing from08:40
sonicGBuhm... on solaris there's an nsswitch.conf in /etc that you have to tell to use /etc/hosts for name service... does linux have a similar concept?08:40
administratorwho lays claim to the goddess of all knowledge?08:40
Curs0rwo ist a good place to paste a screenie?08:40
sonicGBignore administrator08:40
fyrestrtrAlakazamz0r: check your firewall.08:40
FirstStrikemost people use imageshack if they don't have their own webspace08:41
sonicGBAlakazamz0r: what fyrestrtr said... a firewall issue? can you ping the IP from the command line... is it a 'network' problem or a name lookup problem?08:41
fyrestrtrsonicGB: cat /etc/nsswitch.conf08:41
administratorignorance is bliss08:41
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tonyyarusso!offtopic | administrator08:41
ubotuadministrator: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:41
Alakazamz0rPING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.08:42
Alakazamz0r--- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---08:42
Alakazamz0r4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3004ms08:42
Random_Transitadministrator, if you don't have something useful to contribute, try another channel08:42
Gizmo1Anyone know how to set up dual monitors?08:42
Alakazamz0ri figured it out.08:42
Alakazamz0rmy route is all jacked up08:42
sonicGBfyrestrtr: I'm using a mac today... can't test it, have to ask! :-)08:42
Gizmo1Anyone know how to set up dual monitors?:'(08:42
arrenlex!xinerama | Gizmo108:42
ubotuGizmo1: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo08:42
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Gizmo1TNX08:42
sonicGBGizmo1: we heard you, someone will answer if they know08:42
administratorwhat would You like to know?08:43
FirstStrikeYea, you don't have to spam the question over and over again08:43
fyrestrtrAlakazamz0r: use tracepath08:43
Alakazamz0rroot@malakai:~# tracepath google.com08:43
Alakazamz0r 1:  send failed08:43
Alakazamz0r     Resume: pmtu 6553508:43
Curs0rhow do i remove the hard drive icons from my desktop?08:44
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Curs0ri'd like to keep them mounted of course08:44
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prOMiNdhello all08:45
prOMiNd:)08:45
prOMiNd123108:45
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yakumodoes amsn support yahoo messenger user????08:45
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administratorwhat to contribute?08:45
arrenlexyakumo: No.08:45
sonicGByakumo: aMSN only does MSN08:45
FirstStrike...08:45
administratorhmmmmmmmmm08:45
yakumook08:45
administratorthis sucks08:45
sonicGByakumo: but it does MSN so well that it's worth having two clients running to cope with MSN, plus all the otehrs08:46
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pr3d4t0rGreetings.08:46
arrenlex!hi08:46
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!08:46
sonicGBgreetings08:46
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Curs0rhello and stuff08:47
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screechingcatany suggestions for a feed reader for gnome ?08:47
FirstStrikesalut08:47
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pr3d4t0rQ. I just finished installation of Ubuntu Dapper; I'm experienced with RH, SuSE, OS X, Solaris, and AIX.  Can someone please tell me what would be the advantage of installing/upgrading the machine to Edgy or Feisty?  Thanks in advance.08:47
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Random_Transitscreechingcat, do you want a news ticker style or a plain old feed reader?08:47
pr3d4t0rThe machine is intended as a server, not a workstation.08:48
arrenlexpr3d4t0r: Dapper will not get new versions of software.08:48
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Flannelpr3d4t0r: new versions of software08:48
Flannelpr3d4t0r: and, edgy and beyong has upstart08:48
arrenlexpr3d4t0r: If it is intended as a server, you are probably best off keeping dapper.08:48
screechingcatRandom_Transit: plain old desktop app which aggregates feeds and integrates well with gnome08:48
Music_Shufflepr3d4t0r, pure fileserver...prolly not any benefits.08:48
FirstStrikeEdgy is 'bleeding edge' and has a lot of the newest software, but might be less stable than Dapper. It's also not an LTS. Feisty really isn't ready yet and is still in development.08:48
Random_Transitscreechingcat, try blam08:48
pr3d4t0rMusic_Shuffle: It's an httpd/qmail server + gateway for an internal DMZ network.08:48
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screechingcatRandom_Transit: alright thanks08:49
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Random_Transitscreechingcat, there are a bunch08:49
proqesiEdgy isn't bleeding edge anymore, Feisty is now08:49
screechingcatRandom_Transit: so far ive used liferea and a LOT of firefox extensions08:49
Music_ShuffleOk, I should clarify and say 'server, prolly not any real benefits that you can't do without'08:49
Random_Transitscreechingcat, your best bet is to just open up synaptic and search for feed reader08:49
Curs0roh nutty fudgkins! i just learned i am not running the smp kernel08:49
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screechingcatRandom_Transit: thanks for the advice. appreciated08:50
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arrenlexCurs0r: Great leaping ocelots!!08:50
Curs0rwhat would be the easiest way to remedy that?08:50
arrenlexCurs0r: Why aren't you running -generic?08:50
Random_Transitscreechingcat, not a problem dude08:50
pr3d4t0rMusic_Shuffle: Cool.08:50
Curs0ri just used the default08:50
arrenlexCurs0r: What kernel do you have now?08:50
Curs0rasking grub08:50
pr3d4t0rFlannel: What is upstart?08:50
arrenlexCurs0r: uname -r =P08:50
arrenlexpr3d4t0r: A replacement for sysvinit.08:50
screechingcatpr3d4t0r: !upstart08:51
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arrenlex!upstart | pr3d4t0r08:51
ubotupr3d4t0r: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/08:51
pr3d4t0r!upstart08:51
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/08:51
FirstStrikei need to compile a newer kernel08:51
Curs0r2.6.17-10-38608:51
Music_Shufflelol.08:51
pr3d4t0rAh.08:51
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arrenlexCurs0r: ...wow. apt-get install linux-image-generic08:51
arrenlexCurs0r: Are you on dapper?08:51
Curs0redgy08:51
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arrenlexCurs0r: Yeah, run that.08:51
Curs0rlinux-image-generic is already the newest version.08:52
Music_ShuffleThen you win. GAME OVER.08:52
arrenlexCurs0r: Then boot into it! xD08:52
freebsehi where in kde can I setup the monitor, it was in peripherals, but it seems like they changed it08:52
Curs0ri did...08:52
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arrenlexfreebse: Right-click on the desktop and go to configure desktop. Click on display. Is that what you mean?08:53
pr3d4t0rQ. I just built the server; is it a good idea to upgrade to Edgy from Dapper?  I'd like to avoid a full install.08:53
pr3d4t0rQ. If I upgrade, will upstart automagically replace /sbin/init ?08:53
arrenlexfreebse: The same screen is found in kcontrol > peripherals > display08:53
Curs0rkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/sdc3 ro quiet splash08:53
sonicGBfreebse: it's in "System Settings" on the main menu... "monitor and display"08:53
freebsearrenlex: na it is not, I want to adjust brightnes08:53
Random_Transitpr3d4t0r, personally, i've had problems upgrading08:53
sonicGBfreebse: also right-click on desktop to configure destop stuff08:54
pr3d4t0rRandom_Transit: I see.08:54
Random_Transitpr3d4t0r, i tried to upgrade via the repos, and hosed my current install08:54
pr3d4t0rRandom_Transit: OKi.08:54
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Random_Transiti'm still using Dapper08:54
pr3d4t0rRandom_Transit: So, if I try, the worst that can happen is that I'll have to move the server (again) to my workbench and do a disk installation.08:54
freebsehttp://www.multimedia4linux.de/coolscan/monitor_kalibrieren.html >>> this settings, but I can not find them anywhere08:54
arrenlexCurs0r: If you uname -r reports -386, you are not booted into -generic.08:55
pr3d4t0rRandom_Transit: OKi, thanks for the feedback.08:55
Random_Transitpr3d4t0r, pretty much, depending on how you've partitioned things08:55
Curs0rarrenlex, so that should say kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic?08:55
pr3d4t0rRandom_Transit: LVM.08:55
Random_Transitpr3d4t0r, not a problem08:55
proqesiwhen I try to apt-get install pptpconfig I get the error: pptpconfig: Depends: php-pcntl (>= 4.3.7) but it is not installable08:55
pr3d4t0rRandom_Transit: It's almost a pristine installation.08:55
sonicGBfreebse: system settings --> monitor and display --> color and gamma08:55
proqesihow do I fix this?08:55
Curs0rright, brb08:55
pr3d4t0rRandom_Transit: So if I whack it there's no data loss or anything.08:55
sonicGBdifferent interfce, but the same functionality08:55
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Random_Transitpr3d4t0r, might have some minimal loss, but nothing tragic08:56
proqesimy repos are up to date, and I can't explicitly install that package08:56
pr3d4t0rRandom_Transit: OKi.08:56
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Flannelproqesi: er... pptpconfig isn't in any repositories.  Which 3rd party ones do you have?08:56
pr3d4t0rRandom_Transit: Do you know if upstart will automagically replace /sbin/init after the upgrade?08:56
freebsesonicGB: sorry I ask dumb questions, but I am not a KDE User, I set this up for a friend, kcontrol ist System Settings ?08:56
Random_Transitpr3d4t0r, i wouldn't know, i don't use upstart...still on Dapper08:57
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proqesiFlannel: the usual deb http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/pptpconfig ./08:57
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dos000is there a way i can right click in nautilus and start a terminal on the selected folder ?08:57
screechingcatpr3d4t0r: if you're still thinking about that edgy upgrade then dont.. if u want to use edgy that badly, do a clean install08:57
Flannelpr3d4t0r: it'll update all things appropriately.08:57
sonicGBfreebse: no problem... I'm not highly clued with gui stuff either... I'm just getting "system settings" from the main menu....08:57
screechingcatpr3d4t0r: too many upgrade horror stories08:57
proqesiFlannel: is this package not available for AMD 64-bit?08:57
pr3d4t0rscreechingcat: OKi.08:57
pr3d4t0rFlannel: :)08:58
Flannelproqesi: then you'll have to ask them where their dependencies are, as php-pcntl isn't in any official repositories either08:58
pr3d4t0rFlannel: Conflicting input.08:58
proqesiFlannel: ask who?08:58
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sonicGBfreebse: no, it's not kcontrol, it's actually 'systemsettings'08:58
arrenlexfreebse: AH! I knew I saw it somewhere.08:58
pr3d4t0rAw, what the hell; let's try upgrading it.  At worst I'll have to download the ISO image and start over :)08:58
arrenlexfreebse: You need to install kgamma.08:58
pr3d4t0rThanks everyone.08:58
arrenlexfreebse: Then it will appear.08:58
Flannelproqesi: whoever runs that repository08:58
Random_Transitpr3d4t0r, good luck...odds are you'll need it08:59
proqesiFlannel: hmm .. ok08:59
sonicGBarrenlex: I have the gamma thing on a default kubunto 6.10 install here...08:59
freebsearrenlex: thx I think this is what is needed here, thx a lot08:59
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minimanAnyone available?08:59
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screechingcatpr3d4t0r: and use the official recommended update-manager -c method and nothing else08:59
arrenlexfreebse: No problem. Then they will appear on Peripherals - Display -  Monitor Gamma.08:59
screechingcatminiman: !anyone08:59
sonicGBminiman: just ask your question08:59
sonicGB!anyone | miniman08:59
ubotuminiman: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:59
_goofy_how do i know if ive got 3d acceleration working09:00
minimankk..I tried to install frostwire, and now it says that it needs to be reinsallted, but it cant find an archive for it..AndI don't know how to fix it..Any help?09:00
arrenlex_goofy_: What's the output of "glxinfo | grep ender"?09:00
Flannel!frostwire | miniman09:00
ubotuminiman: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:00
Flannelminiman: that page should have all the info you need09:00
minimankk Ill check it out09:00
minimanthanks09:01
freebsearrenlex: sorry it is installed and does not appear anywhere, I can set this up with gnome-control-center and xfce-settings, but KDE changes it everytime I login a kde session09:01
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freebseI hate GUI spec. functions :)09:01
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screechingcatminiman: why not just use LimeWire. thats open-source and free too09:01
_goofy_direct rendering: No OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect09:01
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minimanWell I cannot install any packages until I get this fixed, it won't let me.09:01
arrenlex_goofy_: What happens if you run the "xf86gammacfg" command?09:01
arrenlex_goofy_: That's a no.09:01
arrenlex_goofy_: Sorry, that xf86gamma wasn't for you.09:01
arrenlexfreebse: It was for you. What happens if you run the "xf86gammacfg" command?09:02
arrenlex_goofy_: You don't have 3D accel.09:02
gummpppphas anyone had problems accessing yahoo mail using firefox?09:02
pr3d4t0rHe, he, he... let's see what happens.09:02
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pr3d4t0rInstalling ~300 MB now.09:02
Music_Shufflegummpppp, not I.09:02
screechingcatarrenlex: and if that command says yes, does that mean its enabled ?09:02
_goofy_thanks...i was trying to do it from memory....i must google.....09:02
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arrenlexscreechingcat: If the renderer string is not "GLX indirect" then it is enabled.09:03
tuxhi can any1 help?09:03
arrenlexscreechingcat: Direct rendering must be "yes" for 3D to be on, but it can be "yes" without it being on.09:03
sonicGBI just went to frostwire, hit the download for the mac osx version, and got taken to paypal. what's with that09:03
Music_Shuffle!ask | tux09:03
ubotutux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:03
sonicGB!anyone | tux09:03
ubotutux: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:03
screechingcatarrenlex: Mesa DRI Intel ?09:03
gummpppphas any one had any prolems with email program call evolution?09:03
Music_ShuffleHAH! I WIN.09:03
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minimanTux?09:03
tuxhow can i change the screen resolution?09:03
freebsearrenlex: ya this works, but I call this a workaround, I just want to show the guy the settings where he can set it up : http://www.multimedia4linux.de/coolscan/monitor_kalibrieren.html - nothing else :) arghh, this is driving me nuts09:04
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pr3d4t0rtux: KDE or Gnome?09:04
tuxgnome09:04
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arrenlexscreechingcat: If it's not indirect, it's accelerated. Intel's drivers are GPL so they are handled by Mesa, the 3D infrastructure.09:04
tuxmine is now 640*...09:04
screechingcatarrenlex: right thanks09:04
tuxim running xfce09:04
arrenlexfreebse: when I installed kgamma, that exact screen appeared for me in that exact location.09:04
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tuxand i cant get more than that in display settings09:05
Curs0rwell, that was fun09:05
Music_Shuffletux, gnome or xfce? Not the same thing.09:05
sonicGBtux: that implies video card/driver issues I think....09:05
Curs0ri now have an smp kernel but the nvidia driver is borked lol09:05
tuxsorry xfce09:05
arrenlexCurs0r: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)09:06
freebsearrenlex: believe me I got it installed, apt tells me it is, and no settings... anyway I feel stupid, I gonna find it out myself, there is no point in asking more dumb GUI questions :)09:06
tuxsonicGB, how to change?09:06
Curs0rsays already the newest version again09:06
sonicGBtux: do you know what video card you have... do you know if the window manager knows about it?09:06
arrenlexCurs0r: and you're sure you're running -generic now? =P09:07
tuxsonicGB, but i got  a resl or 800*.. earlier09:07
Curs0rarrenlex, jawohl!09:07
arrenlexCurs0r: I will for some reason assume that is a yes. Define "borked". How did X start?09:07
freebsethis is why I don't use KDE, it is too much setup stuff that is rather unimportant and you can not find the usefull stuff inside all this crap :)09:07
tuxsonicGB, but now some1 has changed it adn i cant revert09:07
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Curs0ri changed the driver to nv09:08
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arrenlexCurs0r: what happened if it was nvidia?09:08
sonicGBtux: I'm kinda guessing here... I've only got windows, os x and kde in front of me here.. no xfce sorry09:08
arrenlexCurs0r: the nvidia-glx package is installed?09:08
arrenlexfreebse: Lies! That package comes installed by default in kubuntu. I love KDE precisely because it gives you the option to change everything. I LOVE customisability.09:08
sonicGBso in the display config, 640x480 is the largest option now?09:08
tuxsonicGB, ysh09:09
Curs0rwell that's bizzarre before modprobe wouldn't install it, now it gives me the xorg error09:09
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sonicGBarrenlex: but KDE confuses the users! <grin> :-)09:09
arrenlexCurs0r: ...?09:09
Curs0rNot loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:09
freebsearrenlex: I set it up with gnome, all I needed to do is to start gnome-control-center at the start of kde and it keeps the settings :) bah, rubish workaround ... :) LOL09:09
arrenlexsonicGB: No it doesn't, because you can use it without touching a single option. But if you want to mess with it you can.09:09
tuxsonicGB, but perv. the sys was havin 800*09:09
sonicGBtux: are you aware of having changed anything09:09
Curs0rguess what i'm doing now ;)09:09
tuxsonicGB, no09:10
sonicGBarrenlex: I shall in future raise my hand in the air when I'm being facetious :-) :-)09:10
tuxsonicGB, but i hav root access09:10
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arrenlexsonicGB: ...oh. xD09:10
sonicGBhaha!09:10
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tuxsonicGB, hi any way..? im fed up with this09:11
sonicGBtux: does this help you? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=17640709:11
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tuxsonicGB, thnk u09:11
sonicGBtux: no point in getting fed up with me...  I'm trying my best here!09:12
sonicGBu welcome09:12
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sonicGB(but read it before you thank me, it might be garbage!!!)09:12
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Curs0rmodprobe nvidia returns "Error running install command"09:12
sonicGBnow there's a quiet moment, I'm gonna go look in the dictionary for 'facetious' :-)09:13
arrenlexsonicGB: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=facetious09:13
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sonicGBgott it, thanks :-)09:13
arrenlex...wait, didn't YOU use that word?09:13
sonicGBand yes, it does mean what I hoped it meant!09:13
sonicGBLOL09:13
arrenlexAh. xD09:13
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arrenlexI did that on a test once with "emanicpated".09:13
arrenlexI turned out to be lucky too.09:13
arrenlexemancipated *09:14
sonicGByeah, emancipated is a crap word... it doesn't mean what I think it means! lol09:14
arrenlexWhat do you think it wins?09:14
sonicGBwell, it's a good work, but I thought it meant something like 'castrated' or 'eliminated', so I never used it! lol09:14
arrenlexXD!09:14
sonicGB%s/work/word/09:15
Curs0rarrenlex, any ideas?09:15
arrenlex"Flee, black slaves! You have been emancipated!" "...ow! My family jewels!"09:15
sonicGBLOL09:15
Curs0rhaha09:15
sonicGBemancipate the eunuchs! :-)09:15
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Curs0rsweet freedom! for whatever it's worth without yer huevos09:16
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sonicGB:-)09:16
Lunishow can i stop ubuntu from fsck'ing my vfat filesystem at boot? it takes forever and i don't want/need it09:16
fyrestrtrLunis: man tune2fs09:17
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firebird619Could someone help me? I am trying to install kdenlive, but it says Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.7) but 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 is to be installed. It also says the same for other packages. How can I fix this?09:18
arrenlexfirebird619: From the official repositories?09:18
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arrenlexfirebird619: I see the answer is no. You can fix it by finding an older version or compiling from source.09:19
cafuego_firebird619: Try to not install packages that are not in Ubuntu 6.1009:19
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sonicGBfyrestrtr: is it as simple as making the last column in fstab = zero?09:20
frogzoolucasvo_: set the 6th field in fstab = 009:20
sonicGBsnap09:20
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frogzootoo late, he's gone09:20
sonicGByeah09:20
firebird619arrenlex: No, A repo I got from the KDEnlive site. I tried source, but it still gives a message about needing QT. Which exact packages do I need to resolve that dependency.09:20
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arrenlexfirebird619: kde-devel to compile from source.09:21
sonicGBouch!09:21
firebird619arrenlex: Thanks09:21
arrenlexfirebird619: Hold on, you don't need all that.09:21
arrenlexfirebird619: kdebase-dev should suffice.09:21
arrenlexYes, that should work.09:22
firebird619arrenlex: Ok, Thank You09:22
Curs0rnvidia-glx_1.0.9631+2.6.17.8-1_i386.deb is in my /var/cache/apt/archives, should i delete that?09:22
arrenlexCurs0r: archives is where apt keeps files as a cache. It manages them automatically. The fact that a package is in cache does not mean it is installed, and it won't interfere with apt finding a newer package. You can keep it.09:23
Curs0rok09:23
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Curs0rany particular reason why that package wouldn't work for me?09:24
arrenlexCurs0r: What package?09:24
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Curs0rnvidia-glx_1.0.9631+2.6.17.8-1_i386.deb09:24
arrenlex! doesn't work09:24
ubotuPlease elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)09:24
arrenlex...aw.09:24
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arrenlexWhat happened to the "sits on IRC all day" factoid?!09:24
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frogzooarrenlex: that sux :p09:25
arrenlex(09:42:05 PM) ubotu: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.09:26
Curs0rwhen i reinstall the nvidia package everything goes smoothly until i modprobe nvidia and i get "Error running the install command"09:26
arrenlexThat's what it was :)09:26
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baratahey ... anybody can sweet-talk Picasa for me? Is it supposed to be the best pic viewer in *Nix now?09:26
Curs0ri assumed you had read that when i posted it before, i did indeed elaborate, you missed it :P09:27
Adlai_barata, it's pretty good09:27
barataI get sick & tired with gthumb that seems to suffer from a memory leak and hang all the time09:27
arrenlexCurs0r: Ah, then I cannot read. Please summarise?09:27
Adlai_depends what you want to do09:27
Curs0rwhen i reinstall the nvidia package everything goes smoothly until i modprobe nvidia and i get "Error running the install command"09:27
barataI also hate gqview that doesnt hang so often; but doesnt allow a FULL folder browse (thumbnails)09:28
baratathanks Adlai_09:28
Curs0rthe package installs fine, it gripes about xorg like normal, it just won't load the driver09:28
sonicGBfrom picasa.com: system requirements: System Requirements09:28
sonicGBMicrosoft Windows 2000/XP09:28
sonicGBMicrosoft Internet Explorer 5.0+09:28
fyrestrtrbarata: try pornview09:28
frogzoobarata: find the bug & submit a patch09:28
arrenlexCurs0r: ...could you pastebin that process please?09:28
fyrestrtrsonicGB: are you looking for picasa for linux?09:28
Curs0rsure, if you could kindly define that action ^-^09:29
baratawho cares about a patch frogzoo ... I just need to use it & shop around09:29
sonicGBresponding to barata, fyrestrtr09:29
sonicGBis picasa available for *nix ?09:29
frogzoosonicGB: absolument09:29
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baratasonicGB: picasa is available for Linux since a long time ago09:29
fyrestrtrsonicGB: yes. I have it running here :)09:29
frogzoosonicGB: google wrote it to run under the wine api - which was a clever move09:29
Adlai_yes it was09:30
baratathat's what I dont like frogzoo09:30
baratausing winshit api ... meaning using wine09:30
frogzoobarata: wine api is real linux09:30
sonicGBahh, found it: http://picasa.google.com/linux/09:30
Adlai_fyrestrtr, haha pornview09:30
baratathats why I uninstalled it back then09:30
Adlai_dunno about that, for whatever reason gentoo doesn't support it anymore09:30
baratabut now I start collecting pics ... huge-huge pics in size & volume09:30
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barataall available things seem to be bad now09:30
Adlai_barata, what's bad?09:31
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baratagthumb is good for a small volume pics, but for the big ones ... it seems that the code has done something wrong with the memory allocation stuffs09:31
barataI DONT KNOW ... I'm just GUESSING ... okey09:32
frogzoocuriously, there no picasa in the repos... :(09:32
baratabut I know that it always hangs after grasping for memory09:32
baratapicasa (I think) is proprietary09:32
dopewhere can i download the mac bar like thing for ubuntu?09:32
arrenlexfrogzoo: It's not surprising. It's proprietary.09:32
tuxhi where is the Xf86config file located?09:32
zeeedhi, can smb help me with wireless connection configuration?09:32
Adlai_dope, what wm do you use?09:32
arrenlexfrogzoo: I assume it is illegal for anyone but google to distribute it.09:32
dopegnome09:32
Adlai_dunno then, sorry09:33
Curs0r!pastebin09:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:33
arrenlextux: /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:33
tuxarrenlex, thnk u09:33
frogzooarrenlex: ah, thx for that09:33
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Adlai_guys talking about picasa, there's a repo I have that lets you install picasa09:33
strabeszeeed: what exactly is your problem?09:33
barataanother reason is because it's still an ongoing thing that Google doesnt guarantee the maturity09:33
Adlai_hold on and I'll boot up my laptop and show you09:33
zeeedstrabes: it difficult to say it in one sentence09:33
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strabeszeeed: do you have network-manager-gnome installed?09:34
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barataFYI, all, download picasa from here: http://picasa.google.com/linux/thanks-other.html09:34
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zeeedstrabes: yes, but it doesn't show any aps, but when i run iwlist ath0 scan it show 2 APs, I've aslo tried wifi-radar it show all 2 Aps, but I can connect :/09:35
Curs0rarrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37300/09:35
zeeedstrabes: my network manager: http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/8113/ubuntuvu2.png09:35
baratapicasa requires 76MB09:36
baratadefinitely not a small program for a *Nix standard09:36
zeeedstrabes: strabes: and network-manager error msg: http://wklej.org/id/c9bf5383e609:36
arrenlexCurs0r: What's with the random third-party repository? Is ubuntu not good enough?09:36
barataanyway, I'm ready to JUST USE picasa and remove gthumb/gqview09:36
Adlai_everyone talking about picasa: echo "deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list09:37
zeeedstrabes: any ideas?09:37
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ThePubAnyone have experience setting up beryl to run under Xgl?09:37
Adlai_sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install picasa09:37
Curs0rhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beta_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 i was just following directions09:37
strabes!ask | ThePub09:37
ubotuThePub: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:37
arrenlexCurs0r: Why do you need the beta?09:38
barataAdlai_: just download, then "chmod a+x picasa*.bin" then "sh picasa*.bin" and you're done09:38
strabeszeeed: that imageshack url doesn't work. do i have to have an account to see it?09:38
Curs0rit was in the instructions for installing beryl09:38
Adlai_but it's cooler if you use the package manager =D09:38
zeeedstrabes: no,  let me check09:38
baratait just takes me less than 10 minutes09:38
arrenlexCurs0r: I think you should try the tried and true drivers first and use the betas only if you need to.09:38
strabeszeeed: your wireless interface is usually eth1. is it enabled? sudo ifconfig eth1 up09:38
ThePubI love when people use the bot, but have no clue about why someone would ask a general question.09:39
zeeedstrabes: url is working for my, and i don't have any account on imageshack, i don't know why you can't see it :(09:39
arrenlexThePub: What do you mean?09:39
Adlai_ThePub, I do, but it was a bad experience and I couldn't repeat it for you09:39
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strabeszeeed: sorry09:40
sphorbisquestion: when i try to log on, nothing happens, this is after the logong screen09:40
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sphorbislogon*09:40
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zeeedstrabes: my ifconfig: http://wklej.org/id/b0a2ed921f09:40
xipietotecwhat I would like is someone to take a look at my laptop and tell me why I can only access my flicker virtual file system in "true root" (Sudo su, sudo -i)09:40
xipietotecno matter how I chown stuff or whatnot09:41
zeeedstrabes: my iwconfig: http://wklej.org/id/5f817a46f009:41
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frogzooAdlai_: thx for that09:41
arrenlexxipietotec: fstab permissions.09:41
baratathe best pic viewer I think is acdc ... too bad it's only for winshit09:41
arrenlexxipietotec: If you mount in fstab, pass umask=000 in the options.09:41
Adlai_frogzoo, what09:41
Adlai_oh, picasa?09:42
frogzooAdlai_: the picasa repo09:42
Adlai_no problem09:42
untony2how do i remove a package and all of its dependencies?09:42
xipietotecI mounted in /mnt/flickrfs using fuse09:42
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Adlai_it was from a wiki somewhere09:42
barataacdc can even open up multiple pages tif files ... I wonder if picasa can09:42
zeeedstrabes: wifi-radar show AP, but when I tried connect I failed :( ...09:42
barataI think this tif business has an issue with Kodak's IP09:42
zeeedstrabes: why network-manager isn't working?09:42
sphorbiscan someone tell me the name of a text only web browser?09:43
barataand until now I still cannot find a multi-pages-tif-files viewer09:43
Adlai_frogzoo, it came from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy09:43
Adlai_sphorbis, links09:43
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Adlai_frogzoo, I just used Trevino's sources.list09:43
baratahallo xipietotec.... nice to see you under Ubuntu09:43
untony2how do i remove a package and all of its dependencies???09:44
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arrenlexuntony2: How did you install it?09:44
baratanormally I see you bashing in #politics09:44
zeeedstrabes: any ideas?09:44
baratafrogzoo too ... you can frogjump into Ubuntu ....:)09:44
xipietotecI just wish someone would make a GUI disk encryption utility for thumbdrives for linux09:44
baratawhat is a GUI disk encryption?09:45
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xipietotec(what I really want is one that will work in both linux and windows, GUI both times, but that seems to be asking waaayyy too much)09:45
baratafor encrypting the whole partition like Vista?09:45
baratasound like Xen09:45
baratahave you tried that?09:45
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untony2arrenlex: i installed it via apt-get and synaptic09:45
untony2arrenlex does it mayyer?09:46
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untony2matter09:46
Slartxipietotec: truecrypt can't do that?09:46
arrenlexuntony2: Yes, it matters.09:46
baratawith Xen you can move about Lin & Win just like you move from Thunderbird to Firefox09:46
arrenlexuntony2: For apt-get, when you remove a package, run apt-get autoremove to remove its dependencies.09:46
untony2arrenlex: i cant remember the installation09:46
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arrenlexuntony2: For aptitude, if you remove a package it will automatically remove dependencies.09:46
untony2arrenlex: what about for synaptic09:46
xipietotecSlart: ....I dunno, I haven't taken a look at truecrypt....does it have GUI?09:46
barataI dont use it myself, but that's what the Xen users told me & what I read about it09:46
arrenlexuntony2: For synaptic, I don't know.09:46
xipietotec!truecrypt09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
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Slartxipietotec: I'm not sure.. it was a while since I tried it... at least it does on windows...09:47
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frogzoobarata: linux now has encrypting file systems09:47
Slartxipietotec: http://www.truecrypt.org09:47
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baratafrogzoo ... I wonder why we want to be secretive?09:48
frogzoobarata: /mp309:48
barataone need to be (1) an Al-qaeda member or (2) a CIA agent to really use that09:48
UbuntuNewbiePlease help, Im testing Ubuntu for my second day! I cant log in as root (the account is activated and the password is set). "Where" do I log in from, I cant log in from the usual log in screen! ("root can't log in from this session" or something like that)09:48
baratawhat is /mp3?09:48
Slartbarata: to make the curious work hard cracking useless stuff.. ;)09:48
xipietotecargh....they want me to use tarbells and compressed keys....why not package management...argh09:49
pr3d4t0rUbuntuNewbie: Did you create a regular user?09:49
Slartbarata: the folder where you keep all your, legally bought and converted to mp3, music =)09:49
barataunless one has a criminal intent in mind then one doesnt need any encrypted stuffs09:49
barataWHAT FOR?09:49
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pr3d4t0rUbuntuNewbie: If so, log on as that user, then open a terminal and from there type:  sudo bash09:49
barataunless maybe ... your horoscope happens to be a Scorpio09:49
barata:)09:49
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pr3d4t0rUbuntuNewbie: Enter your password, and you'll become root.09:49
UbuntuNewbiepr3d4t0r: Yes, Im logged as a regular user!09:49
frogzoobarata: in some jurisdictions, use of libdvdcss is criminal09:49
arrenlexpr3d4t0r: The command you should be recommending is "sudo -i"09:50
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baratalike in where frogzoo? The Frogcountry.fr?09:50
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UbuntuNewbie"sudo -i" from the terminal?09:50
jareth_arrelex: what about sudo su?09:50
barataSlart: are you in Europe?09:51
Slartbarata: yes, why?09:51
barataok, Swedia09:51
arrenlexjareth_: That's anathema as well.09:51
Slartbarata: Sweden to be more precise09:51
baratano wonder you worry about government intervention09:51
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barataand you feel compelled to encrypt your movies/music09:51
jareth_arrenlex: what do yu mean by that?09:52
UbuntuNewbieah... Im root! :)09:52
arrenlexjareth_: I mean that you're not supposed to use it. Use sudo -i.09:52
Curs0rarrenlex, now the standard drivers claim that something conflicts with them09:52
Slartbarata: nah.. I dont encrypt my music.. can't be arsed.. but I understand if someone would want to09:52
arrenlexCurs0r: "something" is hard to troubleshoot. =P09:52
barataanyway ... for an argument sake ... let's say you get caught and you say you borrow the DVD/CD from a local library and rip them ... is that not a strong argument?09:52
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Curs0ryes it is09:52
jareth_arrenlex: i see.. was just curious about the diff's ;)09:52
barataor say you had bought the stuffs ... what can the obnoxious Euro-aparathic do?09:52
xipietotecSlart: thanks for showing me that :)09:52
Slartbarata: it's been a couple of years since we last had a military coup where they shot people in the streets for having "dangerous" documents on their computers.. =)09:53
Slartxipietotec: it worked? it does disc encryption?09:53
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Slartxipietotec: I just remember trying it on windows a year or so ago09:53
Curs0rhow do i switch to the "advanced mode" in the default package manager?09:53
arrenlexWe're past that now, thankfully. Now egregious Big Brother corporations track all your actions and use underhanded methods to force you to surrender your constitutional rights lest you starve.09:54
arrenlex:) god bless America.09:54
UbuntuNewbieThanx! I'll most likely be back with more newbie questions!09:54
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barataAMEN ARRENLEX ... God Bless America and GPL09:54
Curs0rarrenlex, sounds a lot like the third reich doesn't it?09:54
barataFYI: GPL is "made in America"09:54
SlartDoes anyone know of a irc-client that has a "find as you type" feature.. kind of like in firefox..that filters the channel text?09:55
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nzhomieadvanced? do you mean normal synapltic?09:55
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nzhomiesynaptic?09:55
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Curs0ri suppose09:55
arrenlexCurs0r: No, the third reich was more the "shoot you" thing.09:55
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arrenlexCurs0r: beaureaucratic corruption is a hallmark of god-given democracy. :)09:55
Curs0rit calls itself Add/Remove Applications09:56
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nzhomieslart, system, administration, synaptic package manager09:56
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Curs0rumm yup that's it but i just found it on the main menu09:56
Slartnzhomie: mm, I've been there.. searched.. didn't find anything nice.. I'm using gnome-xchat at the moment09:56
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xipietotecSlart: it does disk encryption....not sure if its GUI on the linux end, but it is on the windows end09:58
baratahey folk, I think I would love Picasa ... it's now still catalogin my pics09:58
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tamasdlfkj09:58
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ubunhow do you pronounce 'queue'?09:58
arrenlexUbun: Like Q.09:59
ubunq-you or just 'q'09:59
arrenlexThe letter.09:59
Slartxipietotec: nice... might have to check it out on linux too... too bad about the lack of ready made packages..09:59
Pie-ratewhy did the number of simultaneous keyboard presses my computer can register go down when i installed linux? is there any way to rectify this?09:59
ubundang i been pronouncing it as 'q-u' for some reason :/09:59
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xipietotecso I at least should be able to access my disks in both OS's, which is important10:00
SlartPie-rate: hmm.. I've noticed that too... when playing some games..shout if you find anything10:00
frogzooPie-rate: you mean beyond ctrl,shift,alt ?10:00
dopeshould i run KDE10:00
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dopeis it better than gnome10:00
Jordan_Udope: It is subjective10:00
arrenlex!better10:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:01
arrenlex...oh. I guess not. Sorry.10:01
dopethe application menu at the bottom left is nice10:01
frogzoodope: ubuntu is pretty much developed with gnome in mind10:01
arrenlexThought there was one.10:01
dopeoh10:01
Slartfrogzoo: not only those.. other keys aswell.. when playing fps-games for example.. running, crouching, etc etc10:01
arrenlexdope: But "better" is subjective, yes. Try it if you want, you might like it.10:01
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Pie-ratefrogzoo: I mean for example forward+KP_0+KP_110:01
dopei don't wanna reinstall10:01
Pie-rateKP_1 doesn't register10:01
ubuni think there is an absolute better... whichever is used by less people is better :P10:01
Pie-rateerr, i mean KP_2 actually, KP_1 works10:02
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arrenlexubun: Then why aren't you on the Tandy and writing with stone tablets and walking around naked? =P10:03
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barata<xipietotec> so I at least should be able to access my disks in both OS's, which is important --> this is illogical xipiet ... if your Linux encrypted disk can even be seen from your win partition ... then what's the point of encrypting it AT ALL?10:03
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barataif you can ... what makes others cannot decrypt that?10:04
barataand thus putting your effort in vain?10:04
Slartbarata: you becuase you can see that it's there doesn't mean you can read the contents10:04
dopeis there a way to install kubuntu with ubuntu already on it?10:04
dopeinstall kubuntu over ubuntu?10:04
Pie-ratedope: install ubuntu, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:05
rausb0dope: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:05
dopeok cool, thx10:05
arrenlexdope: Just install kdebase.10:05
baratait's like Vista Slart ... Linux will never be able to read its decrypted content (unless one cracks it of course)10:05
arrenlexdope: kubunu-desktop installs ALL of kubuntu -- this is a lot of applications you don't need if you just want to try it out.10:05
dopei want the whole thing!10:05
cyzie_is there a fast way to fix grub problem? i got error 1710:05
arrenlexdope: kdebase includes only the basic packages you need to start using KDE. If you like it... xD Fine.10:05
nzhomieok who needs help ?10:05
baratabut then again, if Linux can understand the algorithm .. doesnt that mean the whole thing is just useless?10:05
Slartbarata: but with truecrypt (which is available on both) you can use the encrypted disk from both10:05
dopewhoa10:05
dopethat's half a gig10:06
dopealmost10:06
dopeso just install kdebase?10:06
Slartbarata: encryption is not about hiding secrets.. except the key10:06
barataok ... maybe it's simply because I dont understand what trucrypt really is10:06
frogzoo!grub | cyzie_10:06
ubotucyzie_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:06
arrenlexdope: kdebase will set you up with what you need to run KDE itself. It doesn't include all the fancy programs.10:06
Pie-rate!kubuntu-desktop10:06
ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.10:06
frogzoocyzie_: error 17 means grub can't find your root fs10:06
dopewill it look like kubuntu with the start button in the bottom left?10:07
Slartbarata: it's a program that encrypts a hard drive.. if you want to use it you have to input a password.. no password. no files...10:07
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arrenlexdope: I don't believe kubuntu has that start button. That is a SuSE thing.10:07
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baratauboty & cyzie_: use a live cd disc ... then chroot into your linux partition ... reactivate the grub again ... then reboot10:08
Slartbarata: it's using well known encryption methods that you can read about in any book.. the strength of the encryption doesn't rely on the method being secret (which is usually bad)10:08
cyzie_frogzoo, thanks for the info. but how i actually fix it? i have check /boot/grub/menu.lst and it seem correct10:08
dopehttp://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/original/Kubuntu%206.10/5.gif10:08
Pie-ratei like gnome, it works great and doesnt have stupid bouncing icons... GAAAH THOSE PISS ME OFF SO MUCH. I know you can remove them but I hate the KDE developers for putting them in in the first place10:08
bradleyhow would i see/watch the load on my video memory?  there some sort of app?10:08
cyzie_barata, ? chroot partition ?10:08
arrenlexdope: But it will look exactly the same, the only difference will be that you don't get all the programs that come with the whole desktop (text editors, calculators, etc.)10:08
arrenlex(,games, screensavers...)10:08
baratayou lose your grub, right? yes cyzie_10:08
dopeah hell10:08
Adlai_dpi/dt, don't hate10:08
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cyzie_barata, apparently.. :( how do i fix it ?10:08
rausb0Pie-rate: you mean the start notification in kde?10:08
Pie-raterausb0: yes10:09
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dopei bet i just fubared my system10:09
rausb0Pie-rate: yeah, i always turn that off10:09
Pie-ratedope: what'd you do?10:09
dopeinstalled kdebase10:09
Curs0rok, i got it... that was involved... lol10:09
baratacyzie_: use a livecd like Ubuntu's ... boot it ... then chroot into your linux partition (you know how to, right); once there, reactivate grub (read the howto)10:09
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arrenlexCurs0r: Is it working? :O10:09
rausb0Pie-rate: but usually i dont work with kde anyway10:09
Pie-ratedope: how would that fubar your system? you can always just remove it10:10
dopei hope so10:10
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Pie-rateapt-get remove kdebase will remove it10:10
arrenlexPie-rate: No it won't; it's a metapackage.10:10
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dopewill grub be ok if i do that10:10
Pie-ratearrenlex: oh. meh, how do you get rid of it then?10:10
barataSlart: that argument that the 'best encryption is the most open encryption" is interesting ... I'll read it more next time10:10
frogzooPie-rate: installing kde can screw up your menus10:10
BadkittyDoes anyone know of a goo photoshop irc channel?10:11
dopei mean gnome10:11
arrenlexPie-rate: By using apt-get autoremove10:11
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arrenlexdope: You can choose which desktop to use in your display manager (GDM).10:11
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dopehmm10:11
Pie-ratearrenlex well yeah, that's kind of implied since it will tell you to use autoremove when you run remove10:11
Curs0rarrenlex, it is indeed working10:11
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arrenlexCurs0r: Yay!10:11
baratacyzie_ even when you use livecd you can also go online! so, boot it and go online as you try to fix your grub10:11
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bradleyfrogzoo, hi i spoke with you earlier tonight and you recommended htop... can you recommend something to view video memory usage?10:12
Curs0ri had to reinstall the restricted modules for some reason10:12
cyzie_barata, very funny. thanks10:12
Curs0rarrenlex, thanks for your help10:12
frogzoobradley: htop will show proc size10:12
arrenlexCurs0r: What help was this? xD10:12
baratacyzie_> barata, very funny. thanks --> well, Linux livecds are god sent CDs10:12
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bradleyfrogzoo, what is proc and how do i get it to display?10:13
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dopeok i like kde but....10:13
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dopewhen i run xchat it looks like it's running in wine10:14
baratayour xchat is gnome/gtk thing, right dope?10:14
dopei guess so10:14
dopei need a kde irc client?10:14
baratathat's a common problem10:14
arrenlexdope: That's weird. If you didn't uninstall anything your GUI shouldn't change.10:14
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baratawell, everything is functional ... only that it's aesthetically ugly to the eyes10:15
Curs0rmy desktop --> http://123pichosting.com/images/1100Screenshot.png10:15
dopewow that's nice10:15
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dopehow do i do that10:15
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barataI guess there must be a solution to that dope; but I never care to fix it ... just to let you know that it's a common thing10:16
dopehmm10:16
dopeoh wells then10:16
arrenlexDope: as you can see I run KDE but both kwrite (KDE) and gaim (GTK) look the same. http://arrenlex.diff.be/screenshots/28519.png10:16
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dopehmm10:16
arrenlexCurs0r: Sweet jesus, that is so obnoxious xD I could never work on that.10:16
baratait's just a setting issue; or maybe that gnome & kde have their own font's collection10:16
baratathose kind of stuffs10:16
rausb0i guess when selecting a theme in kde, it also affects the gtk theme settings10:17
dopei think it's my default fonts10:17
rausb0so that could be why xchat looks different when run in kde10:17
skilletgo to the control center or kcontrol and mess with thte gtk-qt settings10:17
dopethe letters are slim10:17
barataalso in fluxbox ... like what I'm doing now10:17
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rausb0skillet: yeah, something like that10:17
crystalcan someone help me with a video card driver problem?10:18
Curs0rarrenlex, the beauty of linux is that it can be so very personal10:18
arrenlex!someone | crystal10:18
ubotucrystal: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:18
skilletThe GTK-Qt Theme Engine is a plugin for GTK that allows GTK applications to use Qt widget styles.10:18
arrenlexCurs0r: Yes! ^__^ As obnoxious as you want it to be.10:18
barataare you online with your livecd cyzie?10:18
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cyziebarata, no. online using another PC10:18
barataok ... can you ACCESS your linux partition on that particular machine where the problem is?10:19
crystaldoes anyone know how to install a radeon x200m video card to properly support 3d acceleration?10:19
Curs0rarrenlex, as you can see, beryl was the answer to all my prayers hahaha10:19
cyziebarata, yes, what do you need?10:20
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arrenlexCurs0r: Enjoy it. xD10:20
baratacyzie ... your problem is (1) grub is missing so (2) you cannot get into your linux, right?10:20
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cyziebarata, yes, duirng booting grub stage 1.5, it show the error 1710:21
barataokey cyzie, now put a live cd and boot with that livecd10:21
khatunhi, i keep having troubles getting the fglrx driver to work in edgy properly. any better howtos than the one in ubuntu wiki?10:21
baratalike your ubuntu cd/dvd10:21
cyziebarata, yes, im using ubuntu live CD and it is up now10:21
cyziebarata, what's next?10:21
barataokey, then create a mount point, like /hda110:21
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skilletkhatun, what kind of troubles10:22
crystalkhatun, you have the radeon x200m also?10:22
cyziebarata, done10:22
Nitrolinkenhey10:22
baratawhat is your partition type? ext2 ext3 ?10:22
baratais it in hda1 or hda2?10:22
NitrolinkenI have a problem with ubuntu..10:22
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Nitrolinkenand10:22
baratathen: "mount /dev/hda1 /hda1 -t ext3"10:23
crystalim trying to get mine to work on kubuntu, but its not cooperating with me10:23
khatunskillet: well, here's what glxgears -printfps says: "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." , "1627 frames in 5.2 seconds = 312.927 FPS"10:23
Nitrolinkenwell, I don't get connected to the network10:23
cyziebarata, ext3, sda510:23
arrenlexbarata: Don't need to pass the t switch if the type can be autodetected.10:23
khatuncrystal: no, i have Radeon 9600 Pro10:23
cyziebarata, it has windows xp and debian.10:23
baratathen: "mount /dev/sda5 /hda1 -t ext3"10:23
arrenlexkhatun: Odd. What driver?10:23
frogzooNitrolinken: how are you trying to connect?10:23
Nitrolinkenwell10:23
baratayou should see your linux in /hda1 now10:23
NitrolinkenI have an ethernet card10:23
dopehow do i get a terminal window in kde?10:23
cyziebarata, done10:24
frogzoo!enter | Nitrolinken10:24
ubotuNitrolinken: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:24
Nitrolinkenwe have lan in the house10:24
Adlai_khaije1, are you root or a user?10:24
arrenlexdope: It's called konsole.10:24
Adlai_because that was my problem10:24
dopeoh10:24
Adlai_you have to be a user with ubuntu10:24
skilletdope, konsole10:24
barataokey ... now you're ready to chroot ... I'm kind of forget how we normally do that, hold down10:24
dopegot it now10:24
frogzooNitrolinken: what is the ethernet card make/model?10:24
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khatunarrenlex: fglrx10:24
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arrenlexkhatun: What card?10:24
Adlai_barata, chroot /path/to/mountpoint /bin/bash10:24
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khatunarrenlex: Radeon 9600 Pro10:24
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Adlai_env-update && source /etc/profile10:25
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Adlai_(on gentoo, anyway)10:25
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arrenlexkhatun: Won't work. fglrx only supports radeon > 9800.10:25
cyziebarata, ???10:25
arrenlexkhatun: You're going to have to use the acceleration in the open-source "radeon" driver.10:25
skilletati cards are such a pain in the ass10:25
khatunarrenlex: really? it has worked great in the past10:25
Nitrolinkenfrogzoo: Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC10:25
arrenlexskillet: They ARE.10:25
arrenlexkhatun: For 3D acceleration? You're sure?10:25
baratacyzie: I'm reading this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/UsingChroot10:25
frogzooNitrolinken: ifconfig |grep eth10:25
khatunarrenlex: yes, in Dapper10:25
baratathat's right Adlai_10:25
skilletNitrolinken, i have a the same chipset10:25
skilletit works well10:25
cyziebarata, so what is the command ?10:26
eddiestonemy ubuntu dapper is loging out automatically.. what do I do?10:26
crystalwhere can i find the open source drivers?10:26
cyziebarata, i have mounted the partition10:26
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crystalfor ati cards10:26
Adlai_cyzie, chroot /path/to/mountpoint /bin/bash && env-update && source /etc/profile10:26
baratachroot /hda1 /bin/bash10:26
arrenlexkhatun: I'm reading the fglrx guide on ubuntu and it says: The model number for your Radeon card is a 9700 pro or above (this includes model numbers that start with an X, like X300, X1600, etc., and it also includes the Xpress 200)10:26
Nitrolinkenyeah. iut's odd. I've had net on it before with ubuntu, but not anymore :( works on the gentoo live-cd anyway =P10:26
frogzooNitrolinken: ifconfig |grep eth10:26
Adlai_I would suggest not using the first &&10:26
arrenlexkhatun: (which means I lied, it's 9700 not 9800, but it doesn't matter.)10:26
Nitrolinkensorry but, frogzoo? I'm new with linux :(10:26
cyzieAdlai_, why /bin/bash for ?10:26
arrenlexkhatun: And that is also in keeping with what I've seen on this channel before.10:26
Adlai_do it as two separate commands or the wrong bash might interpret the second pair of commands10:26
Adlai_it specifies the shell you want to use10:27
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khatunarrenlex: hmm.. so they've changed it just recently then(?)10:27
baratato move the bash environment to /hda110:27
frogzooNitrolinken: type that in a terminal, what's it say?10:27
Adlai_otherwise you'll just be using /bin/sh which is a little uglier10:27
eddiestonewhat is the command to upgrade dapper2edgy?10:27
Adlai_but usable, if you want10:27
arrenlex!upgrade | eddiestone10:27
ubotueddiestone: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:27
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cyzieso barata is the command given by Adlai_ correct?10:27
eddiestoneoh man, I have no browser10:27
arrenlexkhatun: I don't know.10:27
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arrenlexeddiestone: You always have a console browser, it's called w3c :)10:28
khatunarrenlex: ok, thank you. but i'll keep trying anyway for a while ;)10:28
barataonce you've done it, you're basically already in your original linux environment ... not in the livecd anymore10:28
rausb0arrenlex: w3m10:28
eddiestonelynx10:28
cyzieso barata is the command given by Adlai_ correct?10:28
baratayes cyzie10:28
eddiestonethanks10:28
arrenlexrausb0: c almost looks like m if you squint, right? xD10:28
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baratatry to ls your home, can you see your files?10:28
rausb0arrenlex: :)10:28
arrenlexkhatun: Is there any reason that the radeon driver won't satisfy you?10:28
eddiestonearrenlex: could you repeat that url?10:28
baratajust 'ls /home' though, not 'ls /hda1/home'10:29
cyzie<Adlai_> cyzie, chroot /path/to/mountpoint /bin/bash && env-update && source /etc/profile  // i dont have env-update10:29
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eddiestonearrenlex: nevermind! thanks10:29
arrenlexeddiestone: If you don't have a GUI it won't help you much because the update manager is graphical.10:29
Adlaicyzie, chroot /path/to/mountpoint10:29
khatunarrenlex: the fglrx used to be 2x+ faster in 3d acceleration10:29
Adlaithen try env-update && source /etc/profile10:29
arrenlexkhatun: *shrug* you know what you need.10:29
cyzieadlia env -update, NOT env-update10:29
cyzie..........10:29
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barataAdlai: he doesnt need profile because the current profile is the livecd's10:30
Adlaicyzie, I come from gentoo, where it's a little different, sorry10:30
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cyziebarata, Adlai k guys, im rebooting now10:30
Adlaigood luck10:30
cyziethanks Adlai10:30
barataok, you should see your grub back10:30
cyziethanks barata10:30
dopehow do i change my volume?  i can't find a volume control in kde10:30
baratais it back?10:30
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cyzie:(10:31
skilletdope kmixer10:31
cyziestill error 1710:31
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barataokey ... because you just chroot and didnt fix the grub!10:31
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dopewhere's that10:31
baratado it all over again, but this time fix the grub and put it back in the mbr10:31
skilletbarata, isnt there a way to fix grub when you boot the cd? or was that on the alternate cd? can't remember10:31
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cyziebarata, okie. booting the live cd10:32
baratachroot skillet10:32
crystalcan someone help me get the fglrx installed properly or direct me to another how to or possibly even the open source ati drivers?10:32
Adlaicrystal, do you have adept?10:32
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arrenlexcyzie: I googled: Grub error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition. This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.10:32
baratabecause if grub is screwed up, you just cannot enter windows or linux10:32
crystalyes i do10:32
ArCHoNKoGcan someone help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37305/10:32
arrenlexcyzie: Which begs the question: you're sure your filesystems are correct?10:32
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Adlaigo to that10:32
Adlaiand search for fglrx10:32
skilletbarata, right i know you can do it that way but you have to know what you are doing... thus why you are in the conversation that you are in10:33
skilletdope, i believe it is in multimedia10:33
kleinlappiesi have a nat problem in azureus. does anyone know what i must do?10:33
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arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Could you please run "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/coreutils_5.96-5ubuntu4_amd64.deb" and paste the error you get here?10:33
kleinlappiesi use firestarter10:33
uboxhey all10:33
Adlaiyou'll want fglrx-kernel-<your version> and xorg-driver-fglrx10:33
Adlaicrystal, ^^10:33
skilleteverytime you download music from the internet God kills a kitten10:33
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uboxhelp needed for pop configuration10:34
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Adlaikleinlappies, you go to the azureus website and read their faqs10:34
arrenlexskillet: If by God you mean RIAA and by kitten you mean a random young girl or grandmother, then yes.10:34
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baratacyzie: read this grub stuffs: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=97510:34
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skilletarrenlex, lol10:34
barataskillet, he needed to put his grub back to the mbr10:34
kleinlappiesarrenlex, k. will do that. was at ubuntu forums but to no avail. thanks10:35
sacaterdoes anyone know how i change the default media player in firefox10:35
Adlaicrystal, once you have those, I'll give you a list of things you need to do before I take a very very late bedtime10:35
sacateri want to change it to vlc media plater10:35
sacateri want to change it to vlc media player*10:35
skilletbarata, sorry i didnt mean to hijack anything i did come in on the middle of that and i apologize10:35
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baratait's all right skillet10:35
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37306/ here it goes10:35
crystalok i have the list10:35
Adlaialright10:35
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sonicGBubox: what's your issue?10:35
Adlaifirst thing, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that whatever Device section your screen is asking for has Driver "fglrx" in it10:36
sacaterhow do i change the default media player in firefox10:36
Nitrofrogzoo: it gave this eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:31:2F:4D:1C10:36
cyziebarata, do u want to see my fdisk -l ?10:36
Adlaithen kill X (log out and go to console)10:36
skilletNitro, lsmod | grep 8139too10:36
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Adlairmmod fglrx && modprobe fglrx10:36
skilletsee what you get with that10:36
baratanever fdisk anything cyzie10:36
Adlaiand then start X again (initscript or startx)10:36
uboxam setting up pop on my machine for lan10:36
baratait's dangerous10:36
Adlaiit should work after that10:36
cyziebarata, fdisk -l just show the partition.10:37
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Adlaito test, as user, run "glxinfo | grep -i render"10:37
Adlaiit should tell you that direct rendering is on10:37
Adlaioh, one other thing10:37
skilletubox, howtoforge.com10:37
baratabasically cyzie, you only need to (1) chroot and (2) grub-install10:37
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Adlaiin /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:37
baratathat's it10:37
rausb0Nitro: do you have to reboot into linux in order to check those commands?10:37
Adlaiyou need to disable compositing10:37
AdlaiI'll /msg you that10:37
barataand your grub must be back again10:37
Nitroyes10:37
Nitrobut I'll10:37
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Nitroget the other laptop up with mirc so that I won't10:37
rausb0Nitro: then maybe its better to give you a longer list :)10:37
Nitro:P10:38
frogzooNitro: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ?10:38
Nitrofrom windows?10:38
Adlaiwhether or not you have to disable compositing depends on what card you have, but to make sure you get the driver working with hardware rendering, it's best to disable it first10:38
Adlaiand then if you really want compositing you can fool around from there10:38
frogzooNitro: your nick is working, you just need to configure /etc/network/interfaces for eth0 properly10:38
Adlaigood?10:38
rausb0Nitro: first things first: do you have a dhcp server on your local net?10:38
uboxsonicG8: do i have to make my machine as dns?10:38
cyziebarata, done chroot, now what?10:38
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NitroI think it is10:39
barataread: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=97510:39
baratait;s about installing grub10:39
rausb0Nitro: in windows, open cmd.exe and type in: ipconfig10:39
Flannel!grub | cyzie, first link tells how to install grub:10:39
ubotucyzie, first link tells how to install grub:: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:39
baratacyzie, if you 'ls /home' now can you see your files?10:39
Adlaiwell I hope that works for you because I am very tired10:39
uboxcoz the error its giving is Host lookup failed: pop.x.x: Name or service not known10:39
rausb0Nitro: there you should see the ip settings10:39
Adlaigood night #ubuntu10:39
crystalive done all that i appeciate the help10:39
cyziebarata, yes i can see my files10:39
NitroMaybe I should try set up a static IP using that?10:40
jareth_!grub-install10:40
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grub-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
baratathat's good! That means that now your root is already in your partition environment!10:40
rausb0Nitro: not necessarily. if dhcp works, it is much easier.10:40
Adlaicrystal, if it doesn't work after that it's probably a problem with your kernel version not matching up with the fglrx module version10:40
baratanow you only have to grub-install again10:40
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Adlairestarting into a command prompt may or may not help you there10:40
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cyziebarata, how ?10:40
Nitrorausb0: that's the problem, that's what it's set on ubuntu10:40
barataI forget ... :( read the links: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=97510:40
rausb0Nitro: what is set in ubuntu? fixed ip address or dhcp?10:41
obstfliegeguten morgen!10:41
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Nitrodhcp rausb010:41
skilletrausb0 wtf is that10:41
uboxsonicG8: i have edited .fetchmailrc but my only quetsion is whether i should make my machine as a dns?10:41
baratacyzie: do 'grub'10:41
rausb0skillet: my nick name :)10:41
cyziebarata, done10:41
ArCHoNKoGcan someone help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37305/10:41
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skilletrofl10:41
cedric30Hello10:41
baratathen type 'setup (hd0)10:41
skillethaha10:42
baratano '10:42
skilletoh man10:42
rausb0well, its also the inferface name of ralink usb wlan cards, but thats another story10:42
sonicGBas a dns.... not, not unless you have a specific need for a local dns10:42
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arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Yes, hold on, I'm thinking.10:42
Nitrorausb0? any ideas?10:42
sonicGBubox: I do have a dns on the box I run fetchmail from, but I don't really need to10:42
cedric30I have removed the directory /usr/lib/dri How could I repare this???10:42
barataif it says 'succeeded' .. you are done, then exit from the root, exit again and reboot10:42
rausb0Nitro: write down the settings that the ipconfig command in windows tells you10:42
Nitroand set a fixed ip?10:43
cedric30there is only ATI drivers in this directory???10:43
uboxsonicG8: oh ok10:43
sonicGBubox: is your fetchmail config working OK for you?10:43
rausb0Nitro: that would be ip address, subnet mask, gateway address and dns server address10:43
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Download this to a temporary directory: http://arrenlex.diff.be/preinst10:43
Nitroyeah :)10:43
cyziebarata, can you type my name before u tell me the message. i barely see your message, or can we PM ?10:43
NitroI'll try that10:43
Nitrobais10:43
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Run it as "sudo sh -x preinst". There should be quite a lot of output. Pastebin it all.10:43
rausb0nitro: i wasnt finished yet...10:43
sonicGB"dns server", "pin number", "fmc computer"10:44
baratacyzie, have you done grub and see the > grub prompt?10:44
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cyziebarata, yes, i have see grub pormpt now what ?10:44
baratayes or no?10:44
uboxsonicG8: ya i think so...i did fetchmail -v $mydomain, it asked for my password and then came by to command prompt10:44
cyziebarata, yes10:44
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rausb0sonicGB: i was going to tell him how to set that with ifconfig and route10:44
baratanow, type root (hd0,0)10:44
rausb0sonicGB: but people are just too impatient10:44
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skilletrausb0, for real man10:45
skilletso true10:45
uboxsonicG8: i have working smtp10:45
cyziebarata, Filesystems type uknow, partition type 0xde10:45
cedric30Someone could help me because I have removed my  /usr/lib/dri directory ?? And I don't know what it could success when I reboot my computer ... What driver is on this directory????10:45
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sonicGBrausb0: there's really absolutely no need to take me seriously you know! :-) I'm usually playing silly buggers! :-)10:45
rausb0sonicGB: :)10:45
baratacyzie: done? okey, try to type --> find /boot/grub/stage110:45
cyziebarata, my drive is recognize as sda. using dell dual core laptop10:45
skilletsilly buggers....10:45
sonicGBubox: so do you have fetchmail sucking down your mail and throwing it at your local smtp server all OK?10:45
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uboxsonicG8: should i send u my .fetchmailrc file?10:46
baratasda as in an external usb hd?10:46
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arrenlexcedric30: apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri10:46
sonicGBubox: you can if you like, yes....10:46
cyziebarata, find /boot/grub/stage1 show rseult (hd0,4)10:46
uboxsonicG8, wait..10:46
cyziebarata, it is sata disk on laptop.10:46
barataok ... that MEANS your linux is on the 4th partition10:46
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37308/10:46
sonicGBsend.it.here@threefiddy.com  <--- send it there (but I don't want to see any passwords, ok!)10:46
cedric30<arrenlex> Is there just Display driver in this directory10:46
barataso cyzie, do: root (hd0,4)10:47
arrenlexcedric30: There are some shared libraries used by all your display drivers, yes.10:47
cedric30 <arrenlex> What package could I reinstalll for ATI driver10:47
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frogzoocedric30: which vid driver are you using?10:47
cyziebarata, done10:47
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cedric30<frogzoo> ATI driver when 3D acceleration operate...10:48
arrenlexcedric30: xorg-driver-fglrx [10:48
baratacyzie: then type again --> setup (hd4)10:48
arrenlexcedric30: xorg-driver-fglrx10:48
cedric30<arrenlex> ok thanks10:48
barataif you see .... "/grub/grub.conf....... succeded" ... you are done!10:48
baratacyzie: if you see .... "/grub/grub.conf....... succeded" ... you are done!10:48
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frogzoocedric30: you can 'sudo apt-get --reinstall' your vid driver & you should be fine10:49
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: What's the output of "file /var/lib/dpkg/diversions"?10:49
cedric30<frogzoo> ok thanks10:49
skillet*sigh* one of these days flash and linux will love each other10:49
ArCHoNKoGwhat do you mean10:49
frogzooskillet: flash 9 is the shizzle10:49
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: That is a command:  "file /var/lib/dpkg/diversions"10:49
skilletyea tell that do ff and opera10:50
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Enter it in your terminal. Paste output.10:50
skilletthey hate it... at least on my system10:50
skilletdo = to10:50
cyziebarata, got error, can i paste u the error in Private Message?10:50
cyziebarata, got error, can i paste u the error in Private Message?10:50
baratago ahead10:50
frogzooskillet: ff 2.0 on edgy ?10:50
Slartmm, same here.. 64 bit ubuntu and flash is not getting along10:50
skilletyes sir10:50
cyziebarata, u got it ?10:50
arrenlexSlart: Not surprised. You can't run flash on 64-bit ubuntu natively.10:50
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, /var/lib/dpkg/diversions: ERROR: cannot open `/var/lib/dpkg/diversions' (No such file or directory)10:50
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baratayes cyzie10:50
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frogzooskillet: oh, 64bit might be problematic10:51
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Aha! That is your problem. :)10:51
Slartarrenlex: oh, but you can.. the latest standalone beta works great... but not the plugin10:51
skilleti have a amd64 but im running 32 version of ubuntu,.... too many damn problems with amd64 right now10:51
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thesandOK- I've got a pretty stupid question. Which image is being referred to when they use the term "splash screen"?10:51
arrenlexSlart: That beta is 32-bit, and amd64 can also execute 32-bit. However, in the context of a 64-bit browser, it cannot work.10:51
baratacyzie, do again (1) grub (2) root (hd0,4) (3) find /boot/grub/stage110:52
frogzoothesand: well it might be the grub splash, or the gnome splash10:52
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, what are my options then10:52
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arrenlexSlart: So the standalone will work because of 32-bit emulation, but you're not running it within a 64-bit fox anytime soon.10:52
dopeok i don't like kde anymore i wanna go back to gnome10:52
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Hold on, I'm arguing and\or looking up something for you. :)10:52
arrenlexdope: xD traitor!10:52
skilletdope... haha10:52
skilletwhy10:52
dopewhen i try to boot into gnome everything is just black10:52
cyziebarata, done.10:52
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, alright thanks man10:52
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dopeskillet, cause i can't get media to work in firefox10:52
skilletnot so good for you!10:52
thesandThe Gnome Splash- I just installed the Gnome Splash Screen Preferences - but I'm not sure which image it is referring to.10:52
baratacyzie: no error?10:52
uboxsonicG8: sent10:52
Slartarrenlex:  ah... ok then.. let me rephrase =)... the standalone beta player (32 bit) works great =)10:52
dopeand i can't find my volume controller10:52
cyzieyes, no error for (1) (2) (3)10:53
skilletkmixer?10:53
cyziebarata, nv try setup (hd0,4) yet10:53
skillethrm10:53
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Slartarrenlex: and here I was hoping a functional 64bit flash plugin wasn't far away... *sob*10:53
arrenlexSlart: Yeah, which is what I'm telling you.10:53
thesandIs it the graphic that shows metacity, nautilus, etc, loading when I first login?10:53
dopecouldn't find kmixer10:53
frogzoothesand: sys -> admin -> login window10:53
wenkodope: I had that problem...My video card was out of the scope of my monitor...the only way to deal with it is to try a diff monitor OR edit ur configs10:53
cyziebarata, nv try setup (hd4) yet10:53
wenkobiab10:53
arrenlexSlart: No, because your player is 32-bit and the plugin must be 64. xD10:53
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dopei just want gnome back :(10:53
skilleti just switched to gnome... i used kde for like 6 years10:53
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barataokey cyzie, try it 'setup (hd0,4)10:54
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Hmm. Try this: "sudo touch /var/lib/dpkg/diversions"10:54
barataif that works10:54
dopewell my gnome is black10:54
dopethe ubuntu loading thing doesn't even come up10:54
cyziebarata, failed10:54
frogzoo!art-manager | thesand10:54
dopei hear the noise and that's it10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about art-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
skilletdont be racist!10:54
arrenlexskillet: Traitor!!! KDE is the God unto you all!10:54
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, alright10:54
frogzoo!gnome-art | thesand10:54
thesandOK- thanks!10:54
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ubotugnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB10:54
baratacyzie, try 'setup (hd4)'10:54
Slartarrenlex: well.. I hope I can show my grandkids the new 64 bit flash plugin at least =)10:54
cyziebarata, setup(hd4) failed, but setup (hd0,4) successfully ;)10:54
khatunarrenlex: just so you know, got it working now :)10:54
arrenlexSlart: They will probably be using it to play Duke Nukem Forever.10:54
zakdope: one of my stoned friends got chased by a black midget once10:54
barataokey ... if it;s successful then you're done!10:54
Slartarrenlex: indeed10:55
dope:|10:55
baratajust exit and exit again and reboot cyzie10:55
frogzoo!offtopic | zak10:55
ubotuzak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:55
skilletarrenlex, i installed edgy and it looked so damned sexy i didnt even install kde10:55
uboxsonicG8: did u get it?10:55
dopei don't even smoke10:55
arrenlex:(:(!!10:55
arrenlexskillet: You should SEE what they've done to the kubuntu livecd. She's GORGEOUS.10:55
cyziebarata, praying10:55
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skilletreally...10:55
Slarthmm.. I10:55
baratapray hard to tux-god cyzie10:55
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arrenlexskillet: Her window titlebars have caused me to switch WM style... for the first time EVER.10:55
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skilletmight have to take a look at it10:55
arrenlex<3<310:55
SlartI'll have to try out kubuntu one of these days10:56
cyziebarata, error :(10:56
cyziebarata, error 1710:56
cyzie:((10:56
baratacyzie ... what windoz did you install? Vista?10:56
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Run that?10:56
ArCHoNKoGyea10:56
dopehow do i reinstall the gnome base sutff?10:56
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Now run "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/coreutils_5.96-5ubuntu4_amd64.deb" again.10:56
cyziebarata, previosuly, i have windows xp and debian, then i try to install vista but i never got installed cuz no more disk let. it require 6GB but i only have 2gb10:56
ArCHoNKoGalright thanks man10:57
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arrenlexThose were good times.10:57
skillet6GB? my my my10:57
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arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Don't thank me yet :) chanes are good that something will still break.10:57
barataVista has a known issue ... as to 'conqueor' the mbr10:57
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ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, what :(/10:57
barataanyway cyzie, did you just install your XP again?10:57
skilletbarata, yup haha10:57
dopei'll fix it tomorrow i guess :/10:57
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Run that command, if something goes wrong, pastebin the error to me.10:57
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arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Else, you're good to go.10:57
cyziebarata, no, i didnt install XP again . cuz i never install vista.10:58
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Pennywise_Can I access root when im logged in as user?10:58
arrenlex!sudo | Pennywise_10:58
ubotuPennywise_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:58
skilletPennywise_, sudo -i10:58
cyziebarata, repeat the step again or what ? :((10:58
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, lol you spoke to soon because some thing happen but to a diff package10:58
Pennywise_Ok, thx :)10:58
cyziebarata, im kinda panic10:58
baratacyzie: this is what I can think of and will do right now ... I'll use Windoz cd to put windoz mbr (fdisk in C:\); then redo the grub thing again10:58
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: ...pardon? xD10:58
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skilletbah, i have to go to work soon10:59
baratacyzie: no panic! You DO NOT lose a SINGLE file10:59
arrenlexskillet: Work, eh? It's 3AM here.10:59
skilletits 5 am here10:59
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ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, same thing but for this one /var/cache/apt/archives/debianutils_2.16.2_amd64.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 110:59
cyziebarata, this dell laptop preinstalled with window xp home edition, no disk come with it10:59
rausb0its 10:58 am here10:59
skilletarrenlex, where are you at?10:59
arrenlexskillet: Canada.10:59
barataoh shit cyzie .... do you have ANY bootable windoz?10:59
skilletbah! canadia!10:59
skilletmy brother lives there11:00
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arrenlexArCHoNKoG: *sigh* pastebin the output of "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/debianutils_2.16.2_amd64.deb"11:00
ArCHoNKoGsorry11:00
cyziebarata, windows vista count ?11:00
Paladinehow do I stop firefox from being upgrading once I have done sudo apt-get update?11:00
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: What are you apologising for? xD You didn't break the packages!11:00
skilletcanada = americas hat.... where in canada do you live?11:00
cyziei only have windows vista with me now :(11:00
Paladinewhen I do sudo apt-get upgrade firefox gets listed11:00
baratano cyzie ... windoz vista as I said love to conqeour your MBR11:00
ArCHoNKoGpaste bin output11:00
PaladineI have locked the version in synaptic but it still gets listed for upgrade11:00
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baratamoreover, Vista has no dos prompt anymore11:01
arrenlexskillet: If by "hat" you mean "that other country which is not full of crazy egotistic megalomaniacs", you're absolutely right.11:01
skilletarrenlex, haha11:01
rausb0barata: no shell at all?11:01
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cyziebarata, FUCK. i was thinking to try new technology and now i fuck up with problem11:01
arrenlex!language11:01
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:01
cyziesorry11:01
cyziebarata, must i use any windows disk? can i download off the internet ?11:01
baratarausb0: we are trying to put grub back to the MBR that had been screwed up by Vista11:01
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Paladineanyone?11:02
baratacyzie: use ktorrent11:02
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, this is output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37311/11:02
rausb0barata: yeah, i got that11:02
Protocol2is there a way to get two ubuntu machines on the same network to share files?11:02
baratayou can always burn things with any linux livecd11:02
enycProtocol2: ALL SORTS11:02
uboxbrb11:02
skilletProtocol2, yes11:02
arrenlex!nfs | Protocol211:02
ubotuProtocol2: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.11:02
enycProtocol2: oopos capslock11:02
cyziebarata, use ktorrent for what ?11:02
skilletktorrent is pretty cool11:02
baratacyzie, what is important is just dont do stupid things like fdisk or cfdisk that will erase your dear files11:02
Protocol2arrenlex, thx11:02
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baratacyzie: ktorrent for downloading a pirated windoz11:03
enycU seem to have all sorts of trouble with edcy console -- keyboard nub/caps lights dont work and capslock seems to activate shif for nuwber keys etc.  -- not just uppercase letters!11:03
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baratacyzie: and also do NOT recover your Windoz with Dell's stuffs ... because the same, it's just gonna erase your things/data11:03
cyziebarata, let's assume i have windows xp professsional edition now, what do i do next?11:03
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Whoa, your system is screwed up. I've never seen that error before.11:03
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: What have you done?! *thwap*11:03
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arrenlexArCHoNKoG: What would happen if you run "apt-get install --reinstall dpkg"?11:04
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Nitroback again. still, no net11:04
rausb0Nitro: you left MUCH too early11:04
baratacyzie: if you have a bootable windoz, what I WOULD do with your problem is to fixmbr ... that allows me to boot into XP; then once it is done, I'll fix the grub11:04
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Almindorhey guys11:04
arrenlex!hi11:04
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!11:04
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex,  it reinstalled it thats all11:04
skillethey hey11:04
Almindoris there a repos. somewhere with the new nvidia driver?11:05
NitroI'm on a laptp now... :/ well..11:05
baratacyzie: I'm just SPECULATING ... I might be wrong .... that is your MBR is fucked up by Vista ... that is a well known shit because I was there too11:05
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: now run "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/debianutils_2.16.2_amd64.deb" again...11:05
AlmindorI have old amaranth's beta (for beryl) but I understand the new release now has support for that11:05
rausb0Nitro: so you dont have to reboot now to try linux commands?11:05
Nitrono11:05
rausb0Nitro: good.11:05
skilletbarata, vista was never installed... due to lack of disk space11:05
Nitroindeed =P11:05
cyziebarata, right, i have windows xp home editoin from friend. okay, what i see from your advice is that, 1. run commmand prompt. 2. type fixmbr 3. ???11:05
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, it worked long story on how this system is screwed up11:05
barataskillet: he did try!11:05
Amaranth!nvidia9 | Almindor11:05
ubotuAlmindor: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable11:05
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skilletFSCK!11:06
rausb0Nitro: in the terminal, type in: ip a11:06
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barata3 boot cyzie and see if you can enter winxp11:06
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Nitrook11:06
Almindorthat's not it11:06
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Good to hear! *waits for the next error*11:06
AlmindorI want the stable latest not beta11:06
rausb0Nitro: which eth interfaces does it show?11:06
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, lol11:06
Almindorthat beta is old11:06
cyzieok. thanks will u be here in this channel for sometime now ?11:06
Almindorrelease is 963111:07
Nitro3 ones rausb011:07
baratago ahead cyzie ... I'll be here11:07
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, going to restart and see if it works if you don't see me on in about 10 min something went wrong11:07
cyziebarata, ok. thanks will u be here in this channel for sometime now ?11:07
Nitroif I read it correct that is11:07
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, thanks again for the help11:07
barataokey cyzie11:07
rausb0Nitro: which _eth_ interfaces?11:07
cyziewindows damn f**k up :(( screw everyghing11:07
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cyziebarata, can you message in private?11:08
frogzooNitro: no luck yet?11:08
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Nitro<broadcast, multiast and up>11:08
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Nitrofrogzoo: no11:08
rausb0Nitro: no, i mean the interface names11:08
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arrenlexcyzie: It always does. :)11:08
EmxBASeveas: thanks on IRC cloak :)11:08
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frogzooNitro: 3 things - are you using dhcp, what are you connecting to switch/hub/modem? & pastebin /etc/network/interfaces11:09
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cedric30I have intall the linux restricted module to have my ATI fglrx driver but I have put the repo of albertomilone.com do I recompile my kernel with ths last driver ATI because my 3D Acceleration do not operate anymore11:10
cedric30?11:10
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Almindorooh you got them 9631 in now11:10
Nitrorausb0: srry, but what name? :(11:10
AlmindorAmaranth, where can I get the keys?11:10
frogzoorausb0: it's eth011:10
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rausb0frogzoo: how can you be sure?11:10
Nitroforgzoo: I tried dhpc, it goes to a router, but not working11:10
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AmaranthAlmindor: I don't know11:10
AmaranthAlmindor: and 9629 is not beta11:10
arrenlexcedric30: Did you install a kernel that is not from the ubuntu repositories?11:10
frogzoorausb0: Nitro | frogzoo: it gave this eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:31:2F:4D:1C11:11
netcrashHello , how can I rebuild the file sources.list with new locations ?11:11
rausb0frogzoo: ah okay11:11
AmaranthAlmindor: although i think the repo actually has 9631, i don't maintain it11:11
Nitrooh that name :$11:11
netcrashHello , how can I rebuild the file sources.list with new locations ? ( it's empty now )11:11
arrenlex!sources.list | netcrash11:11
ubotunetcrash: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource11:11
cedric30<arrenlex> I don't think11:11
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sonicGB!repeat11:11
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience11:11
rausb0Nitro: how to you test the network connectivity? hopefully not with a browser11:11
AlmindorAmaranth, it does now11:11
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AmaranthAlmindor: wget http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -11:11
arrenlex!easysource | netcrash11:11
ubotunetcrash: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".11:11
AlmindorAmaranth, thanks alot11:11
frogzooNitro: now for the 3rd time, please pastebin /etc/network/interfaces11:11
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Nitrofrogzoo: ...11:12
nemanjaHi11:12
skillethi11:12
sonicGBsource o matic only has breezy, dapper, edgy and no version numbers... how on earth am I supposed to map code names to actual version numbers?11:12
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frogzoo!pastebin | Nitro11:12
ubotuNitro: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:12
nemanjahow are you11:13
jareth_why is gnome-art so heavy on my cpu?11:13
skilletoh im good. how about yourself11:13
Nitroyes, but what am I gonna pastebin?11:13
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raid_hello I have a question> i run ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS and i have gnucash 1.8, it seems I can't update to 2.0.3 from synaptic, do I have to install ubuntu 6.10 in order to have gnucash 2.0.3 installed?11:13
frogzooNitro: now for the 3rd time, please pastebin /etc/network/interfaces11:13
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skilletNitro, cat /etc/network/interfaces11:13
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arrenlexraid_: Yes. Dapper will not receive new versions. Only bugfixes.11:13
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Nitrook11:13
jareth_it uses 39.2 % cpu while downloading background pics?11:13
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ver0niqu3hi all11:14
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raid_arrenlex is that the only way to have nucas 2.0 ???11:14
uboxdo i have to set ip addrress range in .fetchmailrc when i am setting pop for LAN?11:14
raid_gnucash11:14
rausb0Nitro: you definitely need some command line knowledge11:14
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, i made it back11:14
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arrenlexraid_: Of course not. You can compile from source if you like.11:14
netcrash!hashkey | netcrash11:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hashkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:14
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ver0niqu3i've installer xgl with beryl on ubuntu edgy with ati radeon, radeon drivers works....beryl works....but when i open the xgl session it start by default with compiz then i've to click on emerald and select beryl. is it posible to set by defaul beryl?11:14
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Glad to see you on here.11:14
ver0niqu3installed*11:14
arrenlexArCHoNKoG: Survived? xD11:14
netcrashHow can I check witch is my hash key ?11:14
ArCHoNKoGarrenlex, thanks again for the help11:14
raid_arrenlex that sounds like too hard for me, anyway thx11:15
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arrenlexArCHoNKoG: No problem... although I'm very curious just what on earth you did to your poor system.11:15
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Nitrorausb0: wow, you don't say so.11:16
jareth_me is wondering why art-manager is built using ruby, which is quite heavy on cpu load....11:16
krautmoin11:16
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rausb0Nitro: anyway, pastebin the file frogzoo told you11:17
Nitroyeah11:17
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ppdhi, how can I print odt and doc files directly from the console?11:18
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rausb0.oO(i wonder why he had to go offline for that..)11:19
checkmatedoes anyone have any insight as to why sometimes my onboard audio is dev/dsp, and sometimes it's dev/dsp1?11:19
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checkmatei just shut down and booted back up11:19
checkmateand it changed11:19
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checkmateit switches back and forth randomly it seems11:19
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jensHi everybody11:20
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frogzoocheckmate: onboard sound card?11:20
EvilGuruWhat can I use to open .chm files?11:20
barataxchm11:21
Infelizpray help from god11:21
jensI have a small problem with Edgy on my notebookt: whenever the screensaver kicks in the screen goes blank but does _not_ turn off, i.e. no power savings. I tried "xset s dpms force off/standby/suspend" and these commands all turn the screen off, so I don't know why g-p-m doesn't do that. I also tried setting these values in /apps/gnome-power-manager  in gconf-editor, to no avail.  Any ideas?11:22
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affluxis there any way to install an ubuntu linux from a running damn small linux?11:22
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jensEvilGuru, xchm or the KDE Help viewer11:23
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EvilGurujens: thanks11:23
jensEvilGrin, for KDE you need to install kdevelop I think, it has the necessary converter11:24
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jensEvilGrin, and xchm doesn't do most fonts (just default ones) so it'll work but not be pretty, last time I looked that is11:24
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leor.quit11:25
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baratado /quit11:25
uboxis pop.gmail.com not working..coz its showing me connection timed out11:25
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Curs0romg i just ate half a pumpkin pie11:27
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rausb0Nitro: why did you go offline?11:27
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jensCurs0r, leftovers from thanksgiving? :)11:27
jensCurs0r, about time..11:27
Curs0rno i just drove to the store, bought a pie, came home, and ate half of it11:28
whyzhey.. very basic question. I'm not familiar with apt. How do i check if a specific package is installed?11:28
rausb0Nitro: you needed the notebook to use pastebin and the linux box to read the contents of /etc/network/interfaces11:28
uboxoops didn't tick SSL option11:28
uboxits ok now11:28
Nitroraus0: I went offline cause y usb dropped out11:29
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proqesiis it ok to install *.i386.deb ubuntu packages on my amd64 system?11:29
uboxwhyz: choose synaptic, its a gui for apt11:29
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LinuxHelpHow can I check the what udma mode I'm using on my /dev/sda ?11:29
rausb0Nitro: usb? why do you need usb for going online?11:29
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proqesirausb0: usb modem maybe?11:29
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nearfarI am trying to install edgy (gui installer).11:30
rausb0proqesi: i hope not11:30
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Curs0rLinuxHelp, using udma on scsi?11:30
whyzubox, thanks, but i want it in console :)11:30
nearfarit hung up at the step 'scanning the mirror'11:30
nearfarwhat to do? :/11:30
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LinuxHelpCurs0r, sata in fact11:30
ct12amCan I install ubuntu from the iso without burning it?11:30
ct12amI'm in a chicken/egg bind11:30
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rausb0proqesi: usb modems using proprietary shit protocols11:30
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uboxwhyz: sudo apt-cache search <packagename>11:30
Curs0ri thought sata didn't do udma11:30
ct12amCan I upgrade from Debian to Ubuntu with apt? ha ha ha11:31
Curs0rhence the whole sata 150/300 thing11:31
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Nitrolinkenbtw, I have ms 200011:31
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rausb0Nitrolinken: whatever that is11:31
ct12amI ahhh...I am going to burn a cd now, nevermind Internet land11:32
Pennywise_how do i install .patch files?11:32
proqesict12am: no11:32
ct12amha11:32
ct12amcool11:32
ct12amthanks dude11:32
ct12amI'm real!11:32
LinuxHelpCurs0r, I'm sure I've check the udma settings on my hard drives before, I think they were actually 100 (i think thats udma4) and 133 (i think thats udma5)11:32
Nitrolinkenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37319/11:32
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LinuxHelpLinuxHelp, I've tried hdparm, but its not giving me any useful info11:32
x-r00t-xhello .i got problem with cpu usage . 1st cpu 100% and 2nd cpu 50% loaded on standby11:32
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Curs0rLinuxHelp, now how on earth did you get a sata drive to do udma 100?11:33
LinuxHelplol at me talking to myself11:33
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rausb0Nitrolinken: looks okay. its a bit strange the "auto eth0" line is the last one but it doesnt matter11:33
LinuxHelpCurs0r, it came that way11:33
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frogzooNitrolinken: add the line "auto eth0" above eth0, & 'sudo ifup eth0'11:34
rausb0frogzoo: auto eth0 is there11:34
rausb0frogzoo: at the end of the file11:34
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LinuxHelpCurs0r, either that, or I'm going mad11:34
Paladineanyone awake?11:34
frogzoorausb0: oh yes11:34
rausb0frogzoo: do you think the order of that lines matters?11:34
Curs0rLinuxHelp, well in the event that a sata drive were operating in udma mode i would imagine it would be 13311:34
Paladinek anyone help me with a permissions issue?11:35
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Curs0rLinuxHelp, that just doesn't sound right though, is your bios providing some type of emulation?11:35
LinuxHelpCurs0r, hmm11:35
LinuxHelpCurs0r, nope11:35
LinuxHelpCurs0r, I think I just probably left out dma support in the kernel or something, I change kernels quick and see what happens11:36
klausHello, my digikam cannot download from the cam, gphoto2 can, but only as root ... any Idea?11:36
frogzoorausb0: don't think so but maybe, 1st to check though is autoneg settings11:36
HuibertGill!ask  | Paladine11:36
ubotuPaladine: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:36
Nitrolinkenfrogzoo: he gives back unable to lookup lan by gethost....11:36
frogzooNitrolinken: 'sudo apt-get install mii-tools'11:37
Curs0rwell i'm looking at someone's random kernel output that show sata interfaces being interpreted at 133 but they aren't actually udma11:37
frogzooNitrolinken: 'sudo apt-get install net-tools'  soz11:37
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Paladineok I added myself to the www-data group so I could manage files in the webtree without having to chown or sudo all the time11:37
rausb0Nitrolinken: does ping 139.174.2.5 work?11:37
PaladineI have rebooted to restart my PAM session11:37
Paladine`id` shows the following11:37
frogzoorausb0: there's no ip11:37
Paladineuid=1000(paladine) gid=1000(paladine) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),33(www-data),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),112(admin),1000(paladine)11:38
frogzooNitrolinken: oh nvm, you can't install stuff while your net's down :(11:38
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Paladineso you can see 33(www-data) identifies me as a member of that group11:38
Nitrolinkenfrozoo: I just realized that =P11:38
Paladine-rwxrwxr-x  1 www-data www-data     0 2006-12-15 21:49 test11:38
Paladinewhen I try and delete that file11:38
Nitrolinkenrausb0: I'll try11:38
PaladineI get permission denied11:38
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HuibertGillPaladine: to delete a file, the user or group must have write permission un the directory11:39
x-r00t-xPaladine,  use root11:39
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HuibertGillx-r00t-x: the easy way out, is not allways the correct way.11:39
Nitrolinkenrausb0: connect: Network is unreachable11:39
Curs0rhaha i just read a bit of an article with some dude raving and jabbering that sata drives are not that much faster than ide... was this a secret? who did not know this? lol11:40
UbuntuNewbi1Anyone here running 6.10 on a VIA EDEN ITX-PC? I'd appreciate help with installing the motherboard drivers!11:40
willskillshmm, guys, I had WoW running no problem on my Dapper install (which died, so I reinstalled) now WoW is crashing on character selection. Drivers seem to be installed ok, how do I purge and reinstall Nvidia drivers?11:40
serioussvenHow do I get totem to work with video files? I installed the totem-xine but it doesn't handle xvid yet.11:40
PaladineHuibertGill, look again at the file permissions, I have full accesss set for group11:40
klaus gphoto2 can download images from the cam, but only as root ... any Idea how a user can download with gphoto2?11:40
frogzooNitrolinken: try: 'sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0 '11:40
Paladinex-r00t-x, if you don't have an answer don't try11:40
HuibertGillPaladine: nit the file perm . the directory of the file "."11:40
HuibertGill*not11:40
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Nitrolinkenfrogzoo: both get same message11:41
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HuibertGillPaladine: changing a file requires the file permisions, deleteing a file alters the directory structure, not the file it self11:42
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PaladineHuibertGill, k you were correct the parent directory didn't have write permission11:42
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Paladinethanks its been bugging me for 20 minutes11:42
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HuibertGillPaladine: I know :-)11:42
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frogzooNitrolinken: ping localhost11:43
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LinuxHelpCurs0r: I found these files: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5AqWU424.html11:43
Paladinex-r00t-x, the whole point of adding myself to the www-data group was to prevent having to override permissions with sudo/chown11:43
ArIdAhello everybody, does anyone knows what package I have to download to be able to see .mpg and .mpeg files?11:43
LinuxHelpI suppose I want to know what generated them.11:43
Paladineso saying use root is just a stupid suggestion11:43
proqesiserioussven: in my experience, vlc and xine are much better at playing commonly used video formats11:44
frogzoo!restricted | LinuxHelp11:44
ubotuLinuxHelp: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:44
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UbuntuNewbi1Does anyone here know how to install the motherboard graphics drivers on a VIA ME6000?11:44
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Paladinethanks again HuibertGill11:44
Curs0rLinuxHelp,  well udma6 probably means the 150 interface11:44
cedric30I have my 3D acceleration because I have install a package "fglrx-kernel..generic" I have never seen this package before someone know what is it .....11:44
cedric30?11:45
ArIdAthnx proqesi11:45
LinuxHelpfrogzoo, that factoid had absolutely no relevence to my question.11:45
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serioussvenproqesi: do you know a site which contains plugin installation information for firefox or opera11:45
Nitrolinkenfrogzoo: unknown host11:45
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frogzoo!restricted | ArIdA11:45
ubotuArIdA: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:45
LinuxHelpCurs0r, interestingly the sdb is running on udma5 (also in that paste)11:45
frogzooNitrolinken: grep localhost /etc/hosts11:45
proqesi!flash11:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:46
proqesiserioussven: read the restricted formats link11:46
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Curs0rLinuxHelp, not the most bizarre thing i ever saw11:46
LinuxHelpor, sda is udma5 and sdb is udma611:46
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proqesiserioussven: firefox plugins can be installed with synaptic or aptitude11:47
Curs0rLinuxHelp, pretty weird though11:47
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futzilogikCan anyone help me with this? --> "Sound Juicer could not extract this CD. Reason: Could not link pipeline"11:48
serioussvenproqesi: I know, but when I use mplayer svn synaptic doesn't mark mplayer as being installed so I can't just install the plugin without installing mplayer for the second time destroying the installation...11:48
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futzilogikI'm trying the preconfigured wave profile11:48
LinuxHelpCurs0r, do you have any idea what generated those two files? Its not hdparm I dont think.11:48
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proqesiserioussven: it would mark it as installed if you used checkinstall to install the package you built11:49
Curs0rLinuxHelp, when you run cat against a device like that it gets it's info from /proc i believe11:49
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Curs0rmuch like /cat/proc/cpuinfo gives you the full rundown on that yada yada11:50
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serioussvenproqesi, how do I use the command? the wiki talks about using auto-apt for simple packages11:50
proqesiserioussven: sudo checkinstall make install11:51
proqesiserioussven: or whatever the install command is11:51
serioussvenok11:51
mindspinhi, I get this error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37323/ where do I set my language (on console)?11:51
serioussvenproqesi, another thing learned :) thanks11:51
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frogzooLinuxHelp: those are 'hdparm -I /dev/xxx'11:51
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Curs0rLinuxHelp, i see your drive has oth sets of instructions11:51
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Curs0rboth*11:51
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Curs0rmy brain is fried i must sleep11:52
Curs0rnight people11:52
LinuxHelpYup, hdparm -I it is11:52
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markus_naglerhello, I'm looking for help with the synaptic package manager11:53
markus_nagleranyone?11:55
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proqesimarkus_nagler: ask your question11:55
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Nitrolinkenfrogzoo: it returns blank11:56
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markus_nagleralright, the thing is, my snaptic package manager freezes up if I try to modify the preferences. apt-get works fine, synaptic pm works fine, it's just the preferences11:56
LinuxHelpI am just wondering, what Curs0r meant when he said "your drive has both sets of instructions" http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5AqWU424.html11:56
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Alakazamz0rmarkus_nagler, what do you need help with11:56
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HuibertGillmindspin: I think it is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf"11:56
markus_nagleris there a way of 'zapping' the preferences like under Mac OS?11:56
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HuibertGill!locales11:57
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf11:57
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Alakazamz0r<markus_nagler> what happens when you click preferences?11:57
Zodiac`when i try to install ubuntu i get something like this error: "Could not get enough free space for ubuntu" :/11:57
markus_naglerthey open.11:57
Alakazamz0rok, so whats the problem?11:57
klaushello?  gphoto2 can download images from the cam, but only as root ... any Idea how a user can download with gphoto2?11:57
proqesimarkus_nagler: sounds like you should file a bug. you might want to delete the existing preferences file and see if the problem goes away11:58
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markus_naglerwell, when I try to close them, with or without modifications, the whole synaptic PM freezes up11:58
markus_nagler@proquesi: yes, that's what I wanted to do. Where is the preference file?11:58
Zodiac`when i try to install ubuntu i get something like this error: "Could not get enough free space for ubuntu" :/11:58
Alakazamz0rmarkus_nagler, freezes up for how long?11:59
Alakazamz0rmarkus_nagler, are you running it as root?11:59
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markus_naglerI haven't tried beyond something like 5 minutes. Should I?11:59
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Alakazamz0ryes.11:59
Alakazamz0rgksudo synaptic11:59
Alakazamz0rtype that11:59
frogzooNitrolinken: 'sudo -i ; echo "127.0.0.1 localhost" > /etc/hosts"11:59
frogzooNitrolinken: NO!!!11:59
frogzooNitrolinken: 'sudo -i ; echo "127.0.0.1 localhost" >> /etc/hosts"11:59
Nitrolinkenok11:59
frogzooNitrolinken: now correct12:00
markus_nagler@Alakazamz0r: through 'sudo'12:00
Alakazamz0rmarkus_nagler, once again12:00
Alakazamz0rgksudo synaptic12:00
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Alakazamz0rjust like that12:00
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markus_nagleron it. just a moment12:01
mindspinHuibertGill: dpkg-reconfigure shows no effect, I get the same error12:01
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Alakazamz0rok markus_nagler12:01
Alakazamz0rmindspin, care to explain your problem one more time... i can probably help.12:01
Zodiac`when i try to install ubuntu i get something like this error: "Could not get enough free space for ubuntu" :/ After i choosed to partition my hdd12:01
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frogzooZodiac`: is this a trick question?12:02
Alakazamz0rlol12:02
proqesiZodiac`: are you installing in addition to windows?12:02
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Alakazamz0rproqesi, yes he is12:02
Alakazamz0robviously.12:02
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markus_naglerthere we go. Clicked the terminal button (second row from bottom) in preferences, hit apply and the windows turn blank (i.e. just basic outlines). App stops responding12:02
Zodiac`proqesi, im installing on an hdd with windows12:02
Zodiac`and i want to dualboot12:02
proqesiZodiac`: you should have Windows do disk cleanup, and throw away as many files as you can in Windows, then try again12:02
Alakazamz0rmarkus_nagler, and you did "gksudo synaptic" ?12:02
markus_naglerI'm fairly certain I meesed it up when wrangling with the JRE last night12:03
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mindspinAlakazamz0r: ok: after updateing hal, my keyboard did not work correct anymore, I needed to push every button for about a second to show up. I fixed this by editing xorg.conf12:03
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Alakazamz0rmarkus_nagler, synaptic isnt java based.12:03
proqesiZodiac`: or look for another hard drive to attach to your computer12:03
markus_nagler@Alakazamz0r: yes12:03
Zodiac`proqesi: defragmate thingy? (tryed to translate from norwegian :P)12:03
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mindspinbut now my language settings are messed up. I have no german charset at konsole, and only some with x apps12:03
proqesiZodiac`: something like that, yes12:03
Alakazamz0rmindspin, " I fixed this by editing xorg.conf"12:03
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markus_naglerI know, but I got some errors, had to run stuff from the command line to get Synaptic to work again12:03
Alakazamz0rso its fixed?12:03
Alakazamz0rmarkus_nagler, ok lemme think here.12:03
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Alakazamz0rmarkus_nagler, is your system up to date?12:04
proqesimarkus_nagler: what are the errors?12:04
Zodiac`proqesi, thanks :D12:04
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Zodiac`im doing it now ;)12:04
markus_nagler@proquesi: how would i know?12:04
mindspinperl is ranting about languages12:04
proqesimarkus_nagler: just describe what the errors say12:04
markus_nagler@Alakazamz0r: yes, as of 2 hours ago or something like that.12:05
mindspinhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37323/12:05
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Alakazamz0rmarkus... whats it do if you try and install a package.12:05
Alakazamz0rsearch for "nmap" for me12:05
Alakazamz0rand try and install it12:05
HuibertGill!locales | mindspin12:05
ubotumindspin: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf12:05
markus_nagler@proquesi: I don't get any error output. Where would i find it?12:06
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mindspinAlakazamz0r:  I did tihis with xorg.conf:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf12:06
mindspinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf12:06
mindspinargh12:06
proqesimarkus_nagler: so you're working fine then?12:06
Alakazamz0rmindspin, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:06
Nitrolinkenfrogzoo: sudo: unable to lookup lan via... bash: permission denied12:06
markus_nagler@proquesi: no. Synaptic from the command line took Yakuake with it ...12:07
mindspinAlakazamz0r: haha that leads me back to the "push the button a second" behaviour12:07
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Alakazamz0ris your keyboard/mouse USB or PS2?12:07
mindspinits a notebook12:07
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Alakazamz0raaah12:08
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proqesimarkus_nagler: run Yakuake again and you will get another Yakuake window12:08
mindspingive me a second, to let you show what I did to xorg.conf12:08
Alakazamz0rare you sure you have everything in xorg properly configured?12:08
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mindspinno12:08
Alakazamz0rwhat is the model number of your laptop?12:08
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mindspinthinkpad t4012:08
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frogzooNitrolinken: 'sudo -i' doesn't work?12:09
Alakazamz0rmindspin, http://www.ubuntuforums.com/search.php?searchid=1127713512:09
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mindspinhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317424&highlight=keyboard12:09
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mindspinthat's what I did12:09
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cedric30I have installed html doc but I'm french and all my text are in translate page are in french so with accent and when i make a pdf translation I have all my pdf with strange letter because it doesn't know  french letter it is possible to change it ???12:09
AlexC_Hey,12:10
KpoHhello, where i can read how to build my own ubuntus .deb package?12:10
Nitrolinkenfrogzoo: no12:10
AlexC_Is it possible to make the middle mouse button click to act as Double Click?12:10
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Alakazamz0rmindspin, "mindspin> that's what I did" <---- what did you do?12:10
mindspinAlakazamz0r: http://www.ubuntuforums.com/search.php?searchid=1127713512:10
Alakazamz0rmindspin, thats like 20 posts.12:11
mindspinargh12:11
Alakazamz0rhow could you do all 20 posts12:11
mindspinno sorry the previous link12:11
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mindspinhttp://www.ubuntuforums.com/search.php?searchid=1127713512:11
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mindspinbullshit12:11
Alakazamz0rhuh?12:11
mindspinhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317424&highlight=keyboard12:11
mindspinthis one12:11
slackeris this the place to place a little rant at ubuntu?12:11
sonicGBno12:11
proqesino12:11
slackerdamn12:12
willskillsno I don't think so12:12
slackerI think it is12:12
proqesithis is the place to extol ubuntu's virtues12:12
mindspinit made my keyboard "work" but as mentioned its a "dirty" workaround12:12
slackerproqesi: its a virtue12:12
slackeri'm just installing KDE and the bloody thing will not work12:12
Alakazamz0rmindspin, did you do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=293823&page=212:12
sonicGBslacker: you come in to a place where volunteers spend their whole day helping people, and start bitching about it, and you'll probably find yourself being beated to death with a stick12:13
slackersonicGB: I like a challenge12:13
sonicGB!language | slacker12:13
mindspinAlakazamz0r: yup, with no result,12:13
ubotuslacker: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:13
willskillsrofl12:13
slackerlol12:13
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sonicGB.ignore slacker12:13
willskillsindeed12:13
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Alakazamz0rmindspin, can you private message me so my eyes dont have to compete12:13
frogzooNitrolinken: you'll need to reboot & choose 'recovery mode' from the grub prompt - is this on edgy?12:13
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mindspinsure12:14
Alakazamz0rim a little tired, but i think i can help you12:14
Nitrolinkenedgy? I instaled with A live cd12:14
Nitrolinkenwell12:14
zeeedhi, can smb help my with wireless conection and network manager?12:14
Nitrolinkenok12:14
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proqesizeeed: no12:14
markus_nagler@Alakzamz0r: I'm now the happy owner of a brand new nmap. What next?12:14
zeeedproqesi: :/12:14
slackerzeeed: smb is samba, it will help you with setting up "windows shares"12:14
zeeedsorry i mean somebody not samba12:15
proqesizeeed: fortunately, #ubuntu can help12:15
slackerhaha, ok12:15
markus_nagler;-)12:15
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ldvx:)12:15
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proqesiman, 3AM12:16
slackerhope this time it will do the job correctly12:16
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willskillshttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper12:16
willskillshttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy12:16
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theclawhi there12:16
willskillsbest FAQs imho12:16
willskillshi theclaw12:16
theclawhow to set up WPA in edgy eft?12:16
zeeednetwork manager doesnt show any Acces points, but when I use iwlist scan i can see 2 available :/12:16
willskillshttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy12:16
monzoaada anak jakarta atau indo12:17
theclawis there an *easy* way? (i.e. not using wpa_supplicant by hand)12:17
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slackertheclaw: wpa_suplicant12:17
willskillsit tells you in there12:17
theclawslacker: hmm i want to configure it by using the GUI12:17
slackertheclaw: then I cannot help you12:17
theclawslacker: hm, thanks though12:17
zeeedtheclaw: I have the same problem12:17
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theclawzeeed: hmm12:17
zeeedtheclaw: have you tried network-manager-gnome?12:18
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theclawslacker: well i converted from debian to ubuntu because i didn't want to configure everything by hand12:18
theclawzeeed: yes12:18
theclawzeeed: but it doesn't help - administration -> network doesn't allow me to change the encryption type12:18
slackertheclaw: lol, ok, I can image that you want a little bit more gui in your live then :)12:18
theclawzeeed: in ubuntu 6.06 it worked withouth problems12:18
theclawslacker: heh ;)12:18
stevenI would like to bind my new interface card with sk98link driver, any ideas?12:19
slackertheclaw: are you using gnome or kde?12:19
theclawslacker: gnome12:19
slackertheclaw: k12:19
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Lynouretheclaw: I think there are a lot of front-ends in debian too. But yes, first one has to find them12:20
monzoai need help12:20
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slackertheclaw: http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html12:20
frogzoo!helpme12:20
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:20
sonicGBmonzoa: have you tried #psychiatry ?12:20
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theclawslacker: thanks!12:21
slackermm, I'm gonna bookmark that one12:21
theclawLynoure: hrm12:21
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slackermaybe it will come in handy12:21
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Lynouretheclaw: But yes, the out-of-box configuration is less hassle in ubuntu12:21
theclawLynoure: well, a think a lot of frontends do the whole configuration thing aself rathern than changing the distribution-specific configuration files (/etc/network/interfaces in debian/ubuntu for example)12:22
theclawLynoure: in ubunut 6.06 it worked *flawlessly*!12:22
zeeedslacker: I will try this HOWTO ...12:22
slackerzeeed: ok12:23
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slackergood luck w/ it12:23
zeeedslacker: thx12:23
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Lynouretheclaw: for me, and for you. But not for all. Helps to have Linux friendly hardware to start with. :)12:23
slackerLynoure: true true12:24
wall86Anyone here have any experience with troubleshooting ubuntu amd64?12:24
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Microshyma slt!12:24
Nitrolinkenfrogzz12:24
theclawLynoure: my hardware supports wpa under linux (ipw3945)12:25
Nitrolinken*frogzoo: now?12:25
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theclawLynoure: everything what needs to be done is starting/configuring wpa_supplicant, thats my prob :/12:25
Hobbseetheclaw: why not use knetworkmanager?12:25
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Hobbseetheclaw: er, network-manager-gnome?12:26
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foghi12:26
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Nitrolinkenfrogzoo? you there?12:27
theclawHobbsee: i installed network-manager-gnome, but this doesnt help12:27
Lynouretheclaw: yep, network-manager is by far the easiest way to do it. In my case, install, comment out stuff from /etc/network/interfaces and it was done. But if you need static ips that are not given to you by dhcp, I guess that takes more work12:27
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theclawLynoure: hmm why do i have to comment out the stuff from "interfaces"?12:28
slackerLynoure: probable you need soem pre-init (or something like that defined on your interface12:28
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slackertheclaw: because the network manager will prob. set it up for you12:28
Lynouretheclaw: because it works? :)12:28
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theclawLynoure: this answer sucks ;)12:29
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stevenwhere do I see which module my interface uses?12:29
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theclawslacker: yep - but why doesn't the "wireless connection quality" systay show up without commenting out the stuff from the interfaces file?12:30
Lynouretheclaw: I did not go digging in the code for the reason12:30
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Lynouretheclaw: see http://www.lynoure.org/blog/index.php?/archives/76-Solving-the-common-NetworkManager-problem.html for what I mean12:30
unfunHow come my internet stopped working in ubuntu since i installed windows?12:31
slackertheclaw: beats me .. I have tried setting up WPA and gnome-network manager w/ dapper and the one before that12:31
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frogzooNitrolinken: ok, now 'echo "127.0.0.1 localhost" >> /etc/hosts"12:31
Nitrolinkenin the black and white screen?12:31
slackertheclaw: it refused my charms, so I scripted something around it12:31
frogzooNitrolinken: the same12:31
Lynouretheclaw: it seemed to be common enough problem to merit blogging about :(  Yes. I would prefer it not to need that, but I do not maintain that package12:31
theclawLynoure: hrm12:31
Nitrolinkenwel12:31
NitrolinkenI have a root@lan: #12:32
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frogzooNitrolinken: sure12:32
theclawLynoure: okay i see12:32
slackertheclaw: now I have it working like I want (somewhat bound to one location - but it works form me)12:32
theclawLynoure: that definitly sucks12:32
frogzooNitrolinken: now 'cat /etc/hosts' & you should see that line12:32
theclawslacker: hmm i'll try to comment out the stuff in interfaces first12:32
theclawbrb, i think i have to restart gnome12:33
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theclawthanks12:33
Lynouretheclaw: well, it's not a unrecoverable change, nor require memorizing lines and lines of options. So could be worse. Trying it only takes a min or two12:33
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slackerbtw, are there any ubuntu package maintainers in this channel?12:34
Nitrolinkenwell frogzoo12:34
Nitrolinkenafter I wrote that echoo.... I pinged localhost, and it's ponging back12:34
slackerpref. for libghphoto212:34
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frogzooNitrolinken: hit 'ctrl d' to go multiuser12:35
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unfunWhy doesn't my internet in ubuntu work after installing windows?12:37
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Nitrolinkenin the console?12:37
frogzooNitrolinken: yes12:38
Nitrolinkenok12:38
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mwohlmuther#ubuntu-bugs12:39
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knoppix_hello12:39
mwohlmutherhello12:39
Nitrolinkenfrogzoo: logged in, now wat?12:39
Nitrolinken*wat12:39
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Nitrolinken*what12:40
knoppix_estas bom tu >>?12:40
frogzooNitrolinken: ifconfig |grep eth012:40
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Nitrolinkenok12:40
knoppix_como >>?12:41
knoppix_estas em que pais tu >>?12:41
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markus_naglerI'm still looking for the "preferences file" of the Synaptic Package Manager. Anyone know where it is and whether it can be safely deleted?12:41
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frogzoomarkus_nagler: dpkg -L synaptic12:42
Nitrolinkenyeah frogzoo, done. I get that line again12:42
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Mr_magicIs there a way to activate my second network card? lspci gives Dlink unknown device12:43
miociao12:43
frogzooNitrolinken: no ip though?12:43
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Nitrolinkenjust that lne again12:43
Nitrolinken*line12:43
markus_naglerThanks frogzoo, but that's rather a lot of files. Which one do I need?#12:44
miociao a tutti12:44
frogzoomarkus_nagler: I can't see anything that looks like a config file anyhow :(12:44
rausb0frogzoo: ifconfig | grep eth0   will never show any ip, because the ip address is not on the line containing "eth0"12:44
frogzoomarkus_nagler: ~/.synaptic/synaptic.conf12:44
frogzoorausb0: zomg12:45
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mio#ubuntu-it12:45
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Nitrolinkentw12:45
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Nitrolinken*btw, at my speedtouch cp, my computer is listed12:45
Nitrolinkenas active12:45
frogzooNitrolinken: ifconfig - do you see an ip for eth0 ?12:46
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slackerNitrolinken: ifconfig eth012:46
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slackerit will list all information about that interface12:46
rausb0Nitrolinken: look for a line containing "inet addr:"12:46
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NitrolinkenI'm not that stupid rausb0 :P yes, inet addr, bcast and mask12:47
frogzooNitrolinken: well then you should be good to go12:47
Nitrolinkenok :)12:47
Nitrolinkenthankss ye12:47
rausb0Nitrolinken: and what addresses do you see there?12:48
Nitrolinkenthe static ones12:48
Nitrolinkeng2g12:48
markus_nagler@frogzoo: Thanks, but i don't have that file. Not even a ~/.synaptic folder12:48
frogzoomarkus_nagler: try ~root12:48
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mrabbithello, i just updated my ubuntu 6.10, and now the 'lock screen' option doesnt work, please help12:52
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markus_nagler@ frogzoo: Thank you, found it. Removing it did restore preferences temporarily. Now, where do I go to get detailed error messages?12:52
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fabiociao a tutti12:52
frogzoomrabbit: sys -> prefs -> screensaver12:52
frogzoomarkus_nagler: run synaptic from terminal12:53
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mrabbitthanks, fixed12:53
markus_naglerI did that before, I get twice the GTK message, then nothing, just blanks out12:53
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untony2dont know where to geek pwnz talk now12:54
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frogzoomarkus_nagler: nothing in /var/log/messages or syslog ?12:54
darkcloudwhoa, bun fight! just to say, installed ubuntu on friend's pc, and it is lovely. real problems getting 6.10 standard install to work, monitor out of range. but everyone is happy now. byeeee :)12:54
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markus_naglera read-only problem with gconfd???12:56
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frogzoomarkus_nagler: oh gconf continually spams that - don't think it's a problem12:57
frogzoomarkus_nagler: does 'sudo apt-get update' work?12:57
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derfloohis dri (xorg module) included in ubuntu 6.10?12:59
markus_nagleryes12:59
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markus_naglerI can install new stuff fine, just the preferences are $%&%$&12:59
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_chrishi all, i have a gdm crash when i change user, anybody knows this bug ?01:01
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capunkg01:02
markus_naglercan I post the gconf output from syslog? It's the only thing repeatedly showing up since restart and about the same number of times I've wrangled with Synaptic today.01:02
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InfelizPastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:03
capunkwwwwwwwwwhyyyyyyy01:03
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markus_naglerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37339/01:03
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malt1how does a AV work on ubuntu?01:04
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malt1Does it scan all directorys?01:04
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kintaro0ehi guys..i tried to compile something and it says an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37341/plain/ what is the problem here01:05
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ver0niqu3hi all01:05
thomashelllo01:05
ver0niqu3is there someone who installed jre 6 with mozilla plugin?01:05
Sugaratias_UKI've added a font to Ubuntu and it now shows up in the GNOME font control but its ugly and not anti-aliased.. How can I fix this....??01:05
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mute01:06
QwertyMwhy isnt the libdvdcss2 still not ported properly for Ubuntu dapper/edgy ?01:07
l3on_hi! i've some problem with my ubuntu edgy 64 bit01:07
fabiimhi there , my ubuntu gone crazy. My keyboard doesn't work , like in the login process i begin typing my username (balayhashi) and when i type the 'b' , it prompts for the password withtout me pressing the enter key01:07
frogzooQwertyM: it's not in the repos for legal reasons01:07
l3on_when i try to shutdown system, the monitor turn off....01:07
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frogzooQwertyM: in other words, it never will be in the repos01:08
l3on_it's the same when i try to switch shell tty (cltr+alt+f1/f2/f3)01:08
QwertyMfrogzoo, oh ok but is one perfectly made deb available yet ?01:08
l3on_anybody can help me ?01:08
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frogzooQwertyM: works perfectly for me...01:08
QwertyMlike, UbuntuGuide says it aint ported or something01:08
QwertyMso, the usual paranoia :p01:08
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frogzoo!restricted | QwertyM01:09
ubotuQwertyM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:09
QwertyMfine am gonna try it out frogzoo thanks :)01:09
frogzooQwertyM: enjoy :)01:09
fabiimi've tried to work around these problem , i got a login by recover mode , but when i type just strange characters appear01:10
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derfloohhow can i enable dri ?01:10
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StarcraftmazterWhere can I get x11-devel for ubuntu?01:12
Sugaratias_UKcan anyone tell me how to antialias a font?01:12
kwtmWhat "dpkg" command do I use to find out what package the file "/usr/lib/libcups.so.2" comes from?  I think it's corrupt.01:12
kwtmI get an error trying to use pdf2ps: "error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libcups.so.2: file too short".  I also get this error message when trying to configure KDEfax.01:12
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slackerStarcraftmazter: libx11-dev this package perhaps?01:13
Starcraftmazteryes, probably01:13
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Starcraftmazterneed the x11 headers01:14
slackerStarcraftmazter: run a apt-cache search query on x11 and grep for dev01:14
Starcraftmazterok01:15
slackeror xorg, perhaps its in there01:15
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jovanshello i am using edgy ubuntu i have installed from the ubuntu repo nvidia-glx01:15
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bisexxxhola desde sevilla01:16
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jovansbut on dep. now its using 2.6.19-7-386 instaed of generic is this normal01:16
nolimitsoyajovans, run 'nvidia-glx-config enable' to enable it. and change all the 386 stuff (kernels, headers, restricted) from 386 to generic01:17
jovansaha01:17
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jovansshoud i uninstall the i368?01:18
nolimitsoyajovans, yes, and install the -generic packages in their place01:18
jovansaha ok thanks01:18
nolimitsoyajovans, just make sure you install all the generic packages and boot them before you remove the current runing kernel01:19
jovanssure01:19
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charliehello01:26
nolimitsoya!hi | charlie01:26
ubotucharlie: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:26
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charliehmm...complete noob here...but i didnt see this in the faq....what are my options if i just installed ubuntu, and it's running rather slow?01:27
nolimitsoyacharlie, slow how?01:27
charlieit's fine when i first boot up, but after an hour or so, irc clients, firefox, everything just has slow response time01:27
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Paavocharlie: how much ram do you have?01:27
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charlie76801:28
miowine whit eyeball??????01:28
jovanshello i've got one more question what is the latency kernel?01:28
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charliedo i just need more ram?01:28
jovansfor wich cpu is compiled?01:28
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nolimitsoyajovans, a kernel with dirrekt preempt than the regular01:28
nolimitsoya*diffrent01:28
Mizipzorwhich package should i use if i want to connect to a vnc server running on windows?01:29
nolimitsoyajovans, its for low latency systems, like those for music production01:29
nolimitsoya!vnc | Mizipzor01:29
ubotuMizipzor: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX01:29
jovansperformance benefits?01:29
nolimitsoyajovans, if you want (need) low latency its a performance boost. if you dont, its a degradation01:29
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echosystm!FreeNX01:30
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX01:30
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echosystmfreenx is more efficient than vnc?01:30
echosystmive not heard of it before01:30
jovansbut it's the same as the generic bjut for latency right?01:30
nolimitsoyajovans, yes01:30
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jovanssorry but i am not using edgy is faisty01:31
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nolimitsoyajovans, where did you find it? running feisty, are you?01:31
jovansfeisty01:31
jovansi mean01:31
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nolimitsoyajovans, i though you would. it shouldnt be in edgy :)01:31
jovansyes it's feisty i have do today a fresh herd 1 install01:31
chelebanybody in here using wengophone on feisty? i get a kernel oops when i try to start it01:31
Mizipzornolimitsoya, thx01:31
jovansbefore was edgy installed ;)01:31
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nolimitsoyajovans, cheleb feisty talk should be in #ubuntu+101:32
charliewhat's the recommended amount of RAM for running 6.10?01:32
jovansmy impression is that feisty runs much more better then edgy01:32
chelebnolimitsoya: thanks. will do so01:32
ootputhello, can any of you point me in the direction of the dir that contains the azureus binary? I can't seem to use 'which azureus' which suggests that it's not in the standard PATH. I'm trying to associate .torrents 'opened' by firefox with azureus.01:32
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nolimitsoyacharlie, 192 is required to run the live cd, but you can install on systems with even less ram. the requirement is realy dependant on what software you run, but for legacy systems xubuntu is the better choice01:33
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nolimitsoyacharlie, to install on a system with to little ram to run the live cd, get the alternate01:33
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vghvghhello, i would like to ask you what modem/router is okay with ubuntu?01:34
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crystalhello is there anyone here that knows how to install a radeon x200m?01:34
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nolimitsoyavghvgh, any should be fine as long as it connects to your nic01:35
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MZMcrystal: is it r200 chip?01:35
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charlie well my system has a 256 and a 512 stick installed, so not quite 1gig of mem but still more then the 192 required for live cd01:35
charlieyou wouldnt happen to know any Ubuntu speed optimizing guides on the web do you?  i didnt see one at the official site01:35
nolimitsoyacharlie, you should be fine, and then some01:35
vghvghsorry what is nic? the ethernet port?01:35
nolimitsoyavghvgh, Network Interface Card, so yes01:36
crystalim thinking it probably is but not really sure01:36
malt1what is a way i could backup all users home directorys like every week to make it backup the file to my directory?01:36
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charlieyeah, but somehow firefox just chugs...i dual boot xp and firefox runs fine, so im thinking i did something wrong when i installed ubuntu01:36
vghvghthank you01:36
nolimitsoyamalt1, check out anacron and rsync - or hubackup01:37
MZMcrystal: you can check it with lspci command.01:37
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MZMcrystal: I'm just asking it, as I had box with r250 chip and it was working like charm with opensource drivers (radeon)01:37
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crystalit has 2 numbers rs480 and sb40001:38
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MZMcrystal: from lspci?01:39
crystalyes01:40
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TurgonIf I burn an Ubuntu Feisty Desktop install CD image to a DVD it will work exactly the same as if I had used a CD, won't it? (my burner is behaving a bit temperamental about CDs lately)01:40
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kintaro0ehi guys..how to solve this problem: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/6vM88n71.html01:41
nolimitsoyaTurgon, it would, but then may i suggest you get the dvd images instead?01:41
nolimitsoyaTurgon, correction: it _should_. ive not tried it :)01:41
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ootputkintaro0e: line 2 mentions a config.log01:41
slackerkintaro0e: open your config.log, and look for the error01:42
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slackerkintaro0e: and it also states you are missing glib01:42
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slackerkintaro0e: my best guess is: install glib01:42
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kintaro0eslacker: apt-get install glib right?01:42
MZMcrystal: set video driver to "radeon" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X01:42
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slackerkintaro0e: yep01:43
Turgonnolimitsoya : thanks, I'll download the DVD image then to be sure =)01:43
kintaro0eslacker: couldn't find package glib01:43
slackerkintaro0e: apt-cache search glib will help you select to correct package when in doubt01:43
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defaultuseranyone using enleghtenment? :)01:43
defaultuser++i01:43
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Mr_magicwhere can I change the driver for my network card?01:44
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crystalk now since im new to linux how exactly do i restart X?01:44
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Paavocrystal: ctrl-alt-backspace is a quick and dirty solution...01:45
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MZMcrystal: first - edit that file, find "Section 'Device'" Driver "foo" and change foo to radeon01:46
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MZMPaavo: nice work. Maybee nexttime suggest rm trick?01:46
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Guest33can ubuntu 6.10 install to DELL 1950?01:47
nolimitsoyaGuest33, try it and find out :)01:47
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Starcraftmazteri have a warning box from azureous in the bottom right corner, hide button doesnt do anything, and it won't go away, any suggestions?01:47
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MZMGuest33: try. I'm running right now on Latitude D50501:47
Zodiac`noen norske her?01:47
Zodiac`eller skandinaviske?01:47
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nolimitsoya!en| Zodiac`01:48
ubotuZodiac`: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat01:48
Zodiac`XD01:48
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, im se myself ;)01:48
Zodiac`"Couldn't get enough free space to installation" :/ Anyone know how to fix?01:48
modai can not install01:48
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nolimitsoyaZodiac`, free some space01:48
Zodiac`nolimitsoya, i have enough space01:49
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, be aware that resizeing is dangerous, if thats what you are attempting01:49
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Zodiac`i tryed to install on a windows disk01:49
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, have you partitioned/formatted correctly? you cant install to an ntfs filesystem01:49
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Zodiac`and partionated automatic (80%), and then that error came01:49
Zodiac`aha, not to an ntfs? XD01:49
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Zodiac`then its solved, lawl01:49
kr0n1xwhat is the best chipset for intel motherboard?01:49
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, youll have to resize the ntfs partition and create a new one with a linux filesystem01:50
KillerTkronix, u really wanna do intel?01:50
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kr0n1xKillerT i will buy an intel core 2 duo processor...then i need a motherboard that support it01:50
Zodiac`nolimitsoya, ill do that with partitionmagic, do that work?01:50
kr0n1xwhat is a good motherboard for intel core 2 duo?01:50
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, if you are trying to resize, youll want to know that not only do you need enough free space, but that space must be continguos and at the end of the partition you want to resize01:50
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kr0n1xlow cost please...like 60 euro01:51
kr0n1x:p01:51
KillerTcheap or good?01:51
kr0n1x60-80 maximum01:51
KillerTi'm sorry I use US dollars01:51
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kr0n1xthen 90 dollars maximum ;)01:51
klausHello, does someone know to which group usb-cams are assigned?01:51
KillerTok hold on01:51
saharaabhallo01:52
nolimitsoya!cam| klaus01:52
ubotuklaus: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:52
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kr0n1xAsrock ConRoeXFire-eSATA2 is good??? KillerT ?01:52
modai can not install ubuntu 6.10 on DELL 195001:52
jpjacobsklaus, i guess video01:52
finalbetamoda, got any more information as to where it fails?01:52
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nolimitsoyamoda, why not?01:52
KillerTAsrock is cheap but good01:52
klausthank you, i will check it !01:53
KillerTI have asrock in my current system01:53
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Zodiac`linux ext1, linux ext2 or linux swap? =/01:53
modacan not find /dev/sda01:53
KillerTthis one is asrock01:53
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KillerThttp://www.pricewatch.com/motherboards/intel_955x.htm01:53
nolimitsoyamoda, are you sure its supposed to be sda, and not hda?01:53
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Zodiac`nolimitsoya, linux ext1, linux ext2 or linux swap? =/01:53
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modadell sas raid 101:53
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, ext3 is the default and recommended filesystem01:53
cdavis_what command do I use to find it a deb is installed with apt-get?01:53
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Zodiac`kk :)01:54
MUTUWhere is the boot loader installed? On a hard disk?01:54
saharaabreiser is better01:54
cdavis_I am from fedora and used to do rpm -qa |grep package01:54
modayes01:54
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Zodiac`thanks for the help01:54
Zodiac`bb01:54
modaon the /dev/sda01:54
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Zodiac`tusen takk nolimitsoya ;)01:54
nolimitsoyasaharaab, no, its not. reiser is, in fact, badly brokem01:54
nolimitsoya*n01:54
finalbetaMUTU, mbr01:54
saharaablol01:54
jribcdavis_: apt-cache policy package_name01:54
modacan not load the sas driver01:55
saharaabi used SUSE with reiser it is stable01:55
modao01:55
khaledhello there, i noticed that the latest version of openoffice is 2.1, can i get this version using apt-get?01:55
nolimitsoyasaharaab, im notgoing to argue this. read of and youll find loads of broken behaviour with reiserfs01:55
nolimitsoya*up01:55
cdavis_jrib, what if I don't know the exact name of the package, how can I get a list of everything installed?01:55
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nolimitsoyakhaled, check in the backports repo01:56
MUTUI have 3 hard disks on my machine. One SATA (which has Windows on it) and 2 IDEs. Is it possible to use 1 of the IDEs to install ubuntu on but still have a boot loader to allow me to choose between Windows and Ubuntu?01:56
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jribcdavis_: dpkg -l    or    aptitude search '~i'01:56
khalednolimitsoya, how can i do that?01:56
saharaabindeed i dont use ubuntu yet01:56
nolimitsoyaMUTU, yes01:56
KillerTMUTU, yes01:56
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nolimitsoyakhaled, do what?01:56
MUTUnolimitsoya, KillerT: any special settings, or does it get done like that automatically?01:56
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nolimitsoyaMUTU, install grub to the mbr01:57
khalednolimitsoya, how can i check in the backport repo?01:57
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nolimitsoya!backports | khaled01:57
ubotukhaled: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports01:57
AvaEnturingood day ;)01:57
AvaEnturindoes anyone know where to find help for gnumeric?01:57
khaledok01:57
MUTUnolimitsoya: on the MBR of the SATA?01:57
KillerTMUTU, in grub the entries change but ubuntu does it automatically for u....just remember /dev/hda is your ide and /dev/sda/ is sata drive01:57
nolimitsoyaAvaEnturin, 'man gnumeric' :)01:57
ldvxMUTU, yes01:57
nolimitsoyaMUTU, the mbr of the drive you are booting by default01:58
MUTUby default i have SATA which will only have windows on it01:58
MUTUubuntu will be on ide01:58
nolimitsoyaMUTU, the install grub there01:58
AvaEnturinnolimitsoya: I think my problem is a bit "delicate" .. searched already ;)01:58
KillerTyeah which most likely is default and that is where mbr should go01:58
MUTUok thanks01:58
nolimitsoyaAvaEnturin, then spell it out01:58
MUTUthank you all01:58
nolimitsoyaMUTU, that is, install to the sata mbr.01:58
Protocol2would updating wine in the future remove any of my programs I currently use with it?01:59
nolimitsoyaProtocol2, no, it shouldnt01:59
Protocol2thanks for the info01:59
Protocol2:)01:59
AvaEnturinI need to plot some data in an existing diagram.. want it to use as a template, especially for disabling the data for the template in the legend01:59
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AvaEnturinand, for sure: use it once more ;)02:00
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khalednolimitsoya, i didn't find it02:01
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nolimitsoyakhaled, then it isnt backported. any good reason to have it?02:02
klaushello, has anybody an idea how to use an usb-cam (Fuji, Digikam fp30) with digikam as non-root in kubuntu-edgy? has it tody with udev?02:03
khalednolimitsoya, i read that the developers of this release really recommend to have it as it had many new and upgraded features02:03
AvaEnturinhas noone an idea how to make templates with gnumeric?02:04
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nolimitsoyakhaled, if you realy need them youll have to package and install it yourself02:04
saharaabwhat is gnumeric?02:04
nolimitsoyasaharaab, an alternate to ooo calc02:04
khalednolimitsoya, ok thanks02:05
saharaabexcel02:05
AvaEnturingnumeric is a spreadsheet program02:05
saharaabyes like exel02:05
AvaEnturinok then: does anyone know a channel where i can find help?02:06
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saharaabis there anyone who can help klaus02:06
whyameyeis there a Linux equivalent to camstudio that will make movies of what is shown on the computer screen?02:06
nolimitsoyaAvaEnturin, perhaps the gnome support channel?02:06
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klausthank you saharaab, i want to use an usb-cam (Fuji, Digikam fp30) with digikam as non-root in kubuntu-edgy? has it tody with udev?02:07
saharaabmain actor02:07
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AvaEnturinis it at irc.gnome.org? could not connect to it recently02:07
nolimitsoya!cam | klaus02:07
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ubotuklaus: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:07
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bimberiwhyameye: there is istanbul ...02:07
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bimberi!istanbul02:07
ubotuistanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB02:07
bimberi!away > [niceday] 02:08
klausnolimitsoya, : it is no webcam. easycam2 cannot be installed. it seems to require gnome02:08
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nolimitsoyaklaus, but you want to use it as i webca,, right? therefore its a webcam02:08
ramon1movistar - motorola c650 con linux02:08
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klausnolimitsoya, no, no webcam use. just downloading fotos (via ptp/ip)02:08
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ramon1movistar espaa02:08
ramon1motorola02:09
ramon1motorola c650 gprs02:09
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ramon1gprs02:09
christianeHello. How many swap space (if any) do I need to get hibernate work?02:09
nolimitsoyaklaus, ah. is it not usb mass storage compatible?02:09
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derflooh_(II) ATI(0): [drm]  SAREA 2200+1208: 340802:09
derflooh_drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card002:09
derflooh_drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)02:09
derflooh_drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)02:09
derflooh_drmOpenDevice: Open failed02:09
nolimitsoyachristiane, the amount of ram and then some02:09
nolimitsoya!paste | derflooh_02:09
ubotuderflooh_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:09
klausnolimitsoya, i think ptp/ip is not mass-storage, but not sure02:10
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derflooh_can somebody help me? i have a rage mobility with mach64 chipset02:10
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ramon1hivernate work02:10
TC`how to change boot screen?02:10
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nolimitsoya!usplash | TC`02:10
ubotuTC`: usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto02:10
ramon1motorola c65002:10
EmxBA!splash02:10
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor02:10
christianenolimitsoya: Where's the contents of swap is stored to when hobernating?02:10
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klausnolimitsoya, i think it is a problem with the right, root can access the cam, user cannot02:10
ReisigerGood afternoon everyone. I'm looking for help to install Ubuntu. My system uses a nvidia raid 5 setup, but gparted only shows the devices sda, sdb and sdc.02:10
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christianes/hober/hiber/02:10
ramon1movistar con linux02:11
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nolimitsoyachristiane, your open ram will be saved to your swap partition/file when hibernating. if you have 512mb ram id recommend 768mb swap if you want to hibernate02:11
AvaEnturincan someone please tell me, where to find a gnome-channel? sorry, i am new in irc...02:11
klausi tried chmod -R 0660 /proc/bus/usb but this want help02:11
nolimitsoyaklaus, add yourself to the correct group. have no idea what that would be though....02:11
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ramon1huberbate motorola c65002:11
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derflooh_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37350/02:11
nolimitsoyaderflooh_, what driver are you running?02:12
frogzooklaus: u looking for group 'plugdev' ?02:12
derflooh_ati02:12
christianenolimitsoya: Thank you. It's 2GB RAM so I should create about 2.25 GB swap space?02:12
klausnolimitsoya, i am allready in the groups: camera, video, plugdev02:12
ramon1motorola movistar02:12
nolimitsoyachristiane, that should work, yes02:12
nolimitsoyaklaus, then im out of ideas :)02:12
nntoo  many people here.. hah my poor client cant handle the join02:12
nolimitsoya!lostirc | nn02:12
ubotulostirc: simple IRC client for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6-2 (edgy), package size 241 kB, installed size 720 kB02:12
bimberiAvaEnturin: it will be on irc.gnome.org (probably #gnome but that's a guess only)02:13
KillerTnolimitsoya, i was wondering why everyone was making huge swap files02:13
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AvaEnturinbimberi: thanks :)02:13
bimberiAvaEnturin: np :)02:13
klausnolimitsoya, hmm ok, thank you02:13
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nnnolimitsoya: great but that wont run on a sidekick or in an ssh session02:13
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KillerTnolimitsoya, thought it was used like virtual ram in windows which didn't require as much as everyone was recommending02:13
nolimitsoyaKillerT, its exactly the same as windows virtual ram02:14
nnbbiab.. too much lag02:14
AvaEnturinbimberi: got an "unknown host"02:14
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christianeWhat is the best partiton type for a vfat fs? 0c?02:14
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nolimitsoyachristiane, just write an msdos partition table02:15
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KillerTnolimitsoya, so the safe net is to tell people to do just a little more than thier ram but it truely depends on how u use ur system02:15
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nolimitsoyaKillerT, quite :)02:15
bimberiAvaEnturin: hm, works here ('host irc.gnome.org' returns info)02:15
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klaus.. i am trying later ...02:16
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KillerTone guy was in here telling people to double thier ram and this guy had two gigs so swap was like 4 and i thought it was a little overkill02:17
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nolimitsoyaKillerT, id second that...02:17
derflooh_nolimitsoya: do you have any idea? all modules are loaded correctly02:17
christianenolimitsoya: I'm creating new partition table with cfdisk right now. One of the partitions will be a vfat for sharing with Windows (or is there any Windows ext/reiser rw driver you can reccomend?). What does your "just write an msdos partition table exactly mean"?02:18
Reisigerdoes anyone have knowledge how to get the installer of ubuntu (6.10 LiveCD) to recognise a raid 5 setup?02:18
nolimitsoyaderflooh_, idea on what? i cant keep track of whos who and what problem they have in here. too many people :)02:18
derflooh_i see :) no problem02:18
nolimitsoyachristiane, use ext3 and ext2ifs from fs-driver.org for windows sharing02:19
KillerTchristiane, I use a fat32 partition to access with windows and linux02:19
bimberi!ext3 | christiane02:19
ubotuchristiane: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org02:19
nolimitsoyaderflooh_, give me a hint when you are reviving old requests and imight be more helpfull :)02:19
christianebimberi, nolimitsoya: Cool. Thanks.02:20
sonicGB_uh, I think ubotu might be wrong there... ext2 works (very well) but ext3 is unrecognised02:20
sonicGB_at least that's been my experience02:20
nolimitsoyasonicGB_, not quite. ext2 and 3 are fullty compatible. the only thing is you wont get journaling when accessing from windows with ex2ifs02:20
KillerText 2 is ext 3 just with journaling02:20
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KillerTbackwards02:21
KillerText 3 is ext 2 just with journaling02:21
sonicGB_nolimitsoya: understand that, but a while about (about 6 months ago, it may have changed since then) I built the linux half of a box with ext3 everywhere, then loaded up those drivers in winders and it didn't find any of them02:21
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KillerTArn't these all beta drivers though. I mean linux can even access read and write to ntfs but it can create errors wouldn't it be best to use something more stable?02:22
AvaEnturinhallo? can someone please help me to find a gnome-channel? irc.gnome.org doesnt work for me...02:22
sonicGB_when I went back and read the fine print, the drivers (at that point in time) couldn't deal with the ext3 tweaks02:22
nolimitsoyasonicGB_, thats odd. working excelent now either way02:22
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sonicGB_now I also point out that my information is about 6 months old, so the code may well have been updated02:22
ibookUbuntuis there a powerpc help channel?02:22
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christianeAvaEnturin: Try irc.freenode.org02:22
nolimitsoyaAvaEnturin, irc.gnome.org is the server you need to connect to, on port 6667 id think. #gnome is the channel to join when you get there02:23
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AvaEnturinyes, i know: as i mentioned before, i get "unknown host" when i try to connect to it (added it with irc.gnome.org on the server list)02:23
MarcusTheReverenanyone know a gui that will display all the wireless networks around and their signal strength?02:23
ElectroDamned, windows is so much more fun to play with software, new program version comes out that fixes something. You use it. he you have to wait 6 months to get it. if you are lucky. They really need to figure something out for this.02:23
sonicGB_but I also wonder why ubotu says "ext3" and the fs-driver.org says "ext2" in the header and description...02:23
Thessuuucccckkkkkk u alll02:24
nolimitsoyaElectro, you are using the wrong distro. get gentoo02:24
ThurynHello02:24
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nolimitsoyasonicGB_, as i said, the driver is ext2 only, but ext3 and ext2 are compatible02:24
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Electronolimitsoya, I did, gentoo is the wrong distro 2. I want my desktop working for me. Not me for my desktop.02:24
jru_irc://irc.freenode.org/gnome02:24
sonicGB_nolimitsoya: I'm not disagreeing with you dude, just recounting my own experience....02:25
gnomefreakext3 == ext2 + journaling02:25
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bimberi!networkmanager | MarcusTheReveren02:25
ubotuMarcusTheReveren: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager02:25
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nolimitsoyaElectro, then try slack or any other distro. ubuntu is not supposed to be bleeding edge02:25
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MarcusTheReverengracias bimberi02:25
ibookUbuntudoes anyone know how to turn off the fading of the screen when putting the computer to sleep or going to suspend02:25
ibookUbuntuit runs super slow on my computer02:25
ibookUbuntuor how to speed it up02:25
nolimitsoyaibookUbuntu, look under screensaver properties02:25
sonicGB_my own direct experience, about 6 months ago, was that the winders ext2 driver didn't recognise ext3 filesystems for me. Wierd, I know, but when I changed them to ext2, it was all good! :-)02:26
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Alakazamz0ribookUbuntu, you need to enable DRI02:26
ibookUbuntujust in xorg.conf?02:26
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KillerTI think Electro would rather stick with windows for simple and quick installs of the latest and greatest without any hassle even if he has to deal with all the bugs viruses worms trojans and overall insecure windows02:27
sonicGB_oh, I love it when folks come in here asking for help and they already know what config files are! :-) <warm glow> :-)02:27
KillerTor try mac?02:27
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arte_hi02:28
ibookUbuntuAlakazamz0r: it's loaded as a module in xorg.conf... how do I enable it?02:28
arte_why cant i view all users in list ?02:28
Thurynok02:28
arte_on xchat i mean02:28
Alakazamz0ribookUbuntu, do you know if its already enabled02:28
Alakazamz0rdo this02:28
Alakazamz0rglxinfo |grep render02:28
nolimitsoyaarte_, couse they are 882 as of now, and your client probably dont want to handle that :P02:28
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sonicGB_KillerT: I'm on a max as we speak and... er... *cough*... I'm not so sure I like mac!02:29
Alakazamz0ror actually02:29
Alakazamz0rglxinfo |grep direct02:29
arte_u want to say that xchat sucks ? :)02:29
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ibookUbuntudirect rendering: Yes02:29
nolimitsoya!lostirc | arte_02:29
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sonicGB_s/max/mac/02:29
Alakazamz0ribookUbuntu, im not sure whats doing it then.02:30
MUTUIn general, would a game run fastest on Windows or on Ubuntu + Cedega/WINE?02:30
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rapidarte_: you can view all users on list. what do you mean in each channel;?02:30
Alakazamz0rit should fade without being choppy02:30
arte_ok suggest som alternative ..02:30
rapidMUTU: probably windows..02:30
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sonicGB_MUTU: in broad terms, it would be more quickerer on winders directly02:30
nolimitsoyaibookUbuntu, using vesa/floss driver or proprietary?02:30
sonicGB_actually, not necessarily02:30
ibookUbuntuit's not choppy at all, it just takes years to fade02:30
MUTUthanks rapid and sonicGB_02:30
ElectroKillerT, I've never actually had a virus and spyware scans always turn out nothing. And my Ubuntu box tends to crash more then my windows box. I guess I'm only here as a hobbyist. Windows is still my general purpose/development dream while nix can run my servers... Yet, if ubuntu wants to be for the masses. They will have to solve those issues.02:30
KillerTsonicGB: I would never suggest it to someone to install ubuntu on. I mean u can build a much more powerful system for half the price but osx is entertaining and there is less "work" involved and a more stable workplace02:30
ibookUbuntulike a total of 5 minutes02:30
sonicGB_it might actually be more quickerer on wine..... remember "wine is not an emulator"02:31
diskusElectro: what issues?02:31
arte_is there any better irc client for ubuntu ?02:31
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ElectroI will give MAc a try though.02:31
diskusElectro: my Ubuntu never crashes02:31
arte_wine sucks02:31
QwertyMHmm, does Ubuntu run perfectly on a macbook ?02:31
rapidarte_: you were given a post, + xchat is fine02:31
KillerTElectro: My ubuntu never crashes unless I tell it to02:31
QwertyMand severe limitations ?02:31
defaultusernot perfectly02:31
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arte_win progs works the same as in win02:31
nolimitsoyaElectro, i realy hope youve filed a bugreport02:31
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sonicGB_KillerT: the first thing I did when I got this macbook (a week ago) was set it up to triple-boot osx, kubuntu and winders02:31
arte_sometimes it hangs muy ubuntu02:32
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nolimitsoyaElectro, or bugreports, if thats more apropriate02:32
QwertyMdefaultuser, ohk, then I wont get a mac as my next comp ...02:32
KillerTElectro: It is also common knowledge in the 3 minutes u plug a fresh install up to the internet u get hit with a malware02:32
sonicGB_QwertyM: *kubuntu* installed painlessly on this macbook... I haven't actually used it very much yet02:32
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QwertyMthought it would be good to run Ubuntu, Win and OSx perfectly02:32
Electrodiskus, I'm on a dell inspiron. Should be properly supported. I files reports, but it's hard to trace why my metacity freezes up every two hours untill I switch to cntr-alt-somethingelse and back. Or why it freezes sometimes when I plug in an USB disk.02:32
QwertyMand together02:32
duzchipHi guys. I need some help here please. I've got an old iMac (233 mhz iirc). I installed Ubuntu (i know this is rather hated) for fun to try it out on mac a while ago but now i really wanna get NetBSD back onto it. However, it refuses to boot the netbsd install cd now i press down C during the bootup as i'm supposed to do but only gets to the Ubuntu bootstrap where i can chose to boot either the installed system or the cdrom so i chosed to02:32
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daimohdon't suppose anyone knows why DVD playback under myth on tvout is all blue, but works fine on the LCD monitor?02:33
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QwertyMsonicGB_, ohk, good luck with it :D02:33
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nolimitsoyaKillerT, 3min it a bit long... symantec estimated 20sec the last time they did any serious investigations02:33
defaultuserhey QwertyM, i like macs02:33
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daimoh(having only just installed myth)02:33
ElectroKillerT, that's true. But i've done pentesting etc. I know how to stay safe.02:33
Alakazamz0rduzchip, nuke the drive.02:33
defaultuserbut why to install ubuntu on it?02:33
Alakazamz0rwrite it to 0's02:33
daimoher... mythtv02:33
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Alakazamz0ror... just repartition it.02:33
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QwertyMdefaultuser, I love it too, but I cant afford using 2 different comps lol02:33
duzchipAlakazamz0r: how?02:33
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Alakazamz0rwhat kind of drive is it.02:33
sonicGB_QwertyM: like I said, the first thing when I got this macbook (core 2 duo, 2gb, 120gb) a week ago was make it triple-boot winders, osx, kubuntu.... I had to jump through a few hoops, but there was never any indication that it was gonna argue with me... it all just worked02:33
QwertyMdefaultuser, I love Ubuntu, thats why02:33
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Alakazamz0rWhatever brand it is, the company that makes it has a utilities disk for it.02:34
defaultuserwhy not to use just mac? :)02:34
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duzchipAlakazamz0r, Have no idea. it's one of those old iMac's which i've never ever been inside of02:34
Alakazamz0rdefaultuser, no cursing.02:34
rapiddefaultuser, macintosh = most applications crash if not the operating system hangs02:34
sonicGB_defaultuser: you asking me?02:34
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Alakazamz0rduzchip, try this02:34
MattDaPcWizalright anyone willing to help a guy in need?02:34
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QwertyMsonicGB_, Oh ok, I'll google a little more and decide then02:34
Alakazamz0ri cant gaurentee anything02:34
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seanhHey folks, I'm trying to get a friends Ubuntu laptop to access another friend's WindowsXP shared folder by following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently Anyone know how I find out the name of the server and the share in Windows?02:34
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Alakazamz0rduzchip, http://ebcd.pcministry.com/download_en.html02:35
rapidseanh, go into into network settings, look for shared drivers.02:35
fyrestrtrseanh: you can browse network places in ubuntu.02:35
Electrodiskus, the crashes are the least of my problems, they seem hardware related, so i'll blame that on myself for buying the hardware. The general limitations of repositories, and multimedia are more of an issue.02:35
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rapiddrives even02:35
Alakazamz0rbrb02:35
QwertyMdefaultuser, Coz I need Ubuntu or any *nix equal to it (lol) for my developments :)02:35
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frogzooseanh: net show \\ip           iirc02:35
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MattDaPcWizalright, currently guys im trying to get a Marvell Yukon network adaptor to work, it is built into mymotherboard, and when i try to install it it says syntax error 68 and comaplins about a ")" symbole wtf do i do?02:35
KillerTElectro: With metacity freezing r u sure that isn't because u setup swap incorrectly?02:35
diskusElectro: well I don't see any problems with multimedia on my laptop02:35
sonicGB_seanh: "ipconfig /all" and "rbtstat" are your friends on winders.... if you need more info say so and I'll fire up my winders box and tell you command lines02:35
fyrestrtrMattDaPcWiz: was it working in the livecd?02:36
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sonicGB_seanh: also "net share" is useful02:36
MattDaPcWizno this is installed02:36
defaultuserQwertyM, well, which kind of developing02:36
seanhfyrestrtr -- oh yeah. Since when? Does installing samba or smbfs enable that automatically?02:36
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ElectroKillerT, I've got 512MB ram, 512Mb swap, at the moment it freezes i'm not using more then 300MB ram.02:36
MUTUMy hard disk is formatted in ext2. Would the Ubuntu DVD installation allow me to format it as ext3?02:36
grogoreowhy when I try to change the channel on a VLC PVR it crashes?02:36
sonicGB_MUTU: yes, it would02:36
Psykovsky!pastebin02:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:36
fyrestrtrseanh: its always been there (well, ever since I've been using ubntu)02:36
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daimohanyone have any ideas as to why DRI doesn't work, even though fglrx module is installed?02:36
rapiddaimoh: have you got Load "dri"02:37
diskusElectro: and who are we to say that you should use Ubuntu, it's not for everyone02:37
fyrestrtrdaimoh: what does glxinfo say?02:37
Electrodiskus, I'm a human ;)02:37
KillerTdaimoh does it say something about mesa.org?02:37
daimohyeah, mesa.org02:37
Electrousing that as a marketing line tends to say much.02:37
MattDaPcWiz alright, currently guys im trying to get a Marvell Yukon network adaptor to work, it is built into mymotherboard, and when i try to install it it says syntax error 68 and comaplins about a ")" symbole wtf do i do?02:37
daimohsorry - i was trying to figure out how to paste that in here02:37
sonicGB_hmmmm... beer glass empty error... brb02:37
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daimohX is running on a different computer...02:37
fyrestrtrMattDaPcWiz: how are you trying to install it?02:38
rapiddaimoh: that means fglrx isn't installed properly.02:38
fyrestrtrMattDaPcWiz: and please stop repeating.02:38
daimohrapid: ah02:38
christianeHello. I use the video driver "fglrx" for my ATI X1300 or X1400. When playing video only about 6 fps are shown. What can I do here?02:38
christiane(Ubuntu 6.10)02:38
ikke81hello how can i boot into x with the install cd with the vesa driver02:38
seanhIs there any good way to pause the xchat view or copy stuff from it easily? I just gotta lot of help, but I need to save those comments somehow. It's really awkward to copy paste from xchat as it keeps scrolling02:38
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defaultuseranyone heard about dri-support for SiS M760?02:38
rapidseanh: xchat can log for you02:38
KillerTchristiane is that card even supported yet with the ati linux drivers02:39
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MattDaPcWizi got the driver off intel and it instructs me to use a install.sh that came in the packed file02:39
daimohat http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Troubleshooting_for_both_Methods i see it says you just disable composite mode02:39
nolimitsoyaikke81, select graphics safe mode02:39
KillerTmattda: sh install.sh02:39
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daimohand i presume it's supposed to work then, but i have that line in my xorg file, and.. you know.. it's not working :)02:39
MattDaPcWizwhen i do it says that there has bee na syntax error 68 and complains a certain ")"02:39
frogzoochristiane: I think you want a final section in your xorg.conf: Section "Extensions" Option      "Composite" "0"02:39
kvarchilis there any possible way to make directory limit?02:39
rapidkvarchil, man quota02:40
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fyrestrtrMattDaPcWiz: firstly, do you know if its already installed and working? How many devices do you see when you do ifconfig ?02:40
kvarchilrapid, no manual entry02:40
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MattDaPcWizi only have one network device02:40
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rapidkvarchil: install quota02:40
kvarchilok02:41
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christianefrogzoo: There's already: Option      "Composite" "Disable"02:41
seanhfyrestrtr -- okay I see some windows shares, but I get errors when I double-click them02:41
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christianefrogzoo: Does that mean the same?02:41
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fyrestrtrseanh: you must have the permissions to view them.02:41
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arte_it was very har to explain about resizble user list ?02:41
arte_jerk ....02:41
rapidarte_: who?02:42
arte_who wot ?02:42
MattDaPcWizat the moment i am using something called local loopback, it sees my Marvell Yukno as a unknown device02:42
rapid<shrug>02:42
arte_who me ?02:42
frogzoochristiane: dunno, everything I've seen mentions "0"02:42
arte_am user02:42
arte_arte :)02:42
arte_lol02:42
sonicGB_seanh: what sort of erras?02:42
rapidarte_: lol.. your funny02:43
daimohchristiane - see if http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide helps02:43
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arte_funny ?02:43
AXL888hello02:43
rapidarte_: comedy02:43
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MattDaPcWiznobody has nay ideas?02:43
AXL888i speak hungarian02:43
arte_yes i can;t live without it02:43
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arte_am a joker lol02:44
MattDaPcWizhellllllllllllllllo/02:44
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MattDaPcWiz?02:44
monzoahow to activ pcmcia02:44
rapidMattDaPcWiz,  not that much of a wiz are ya02:44
AXL888Valaki beszl mg magyarul?02:44
monzoa!help me02:44
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:44
MattDaPcWizlol i am, just not with linux, i make pcs and screw with windows xp linux is a new thing to me02:44
seanhfyrestrtr sonicGB_ : I click on Network Servers, Windows Network, MSHOME, get "Couldn't display MSHOME, The location is not a folder". Sometimes it actually does open it and show the shares, sometimes not. ?02:45
ldvxhello... how can i enable bitmap fonts??    with dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig it is supose to able them automatically ??02:45
kvarchilrapid, looks like quotas wont work, have other ideas? except making partitions?02:45
fyrestrtrseanh: it depends if your workgroup master is online or not.02:45
rapidkvarchil: not sure.. why won't quota work?02:45
MattDaPcWizRapid: lol i am, just not with linux, i make pcs and screw with windows xp linux is a new thing to me02:45
seanhfyrestrtr : you mean the Windows user?02:45
monzoahow to activ pcmcia02:45
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nolimitsoyaMattDaPcWiz, loopback is the same in windows. 127.0.0.1 is not a real network conntection, but a loopback to your local machine02:46
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symtabhi02:46
frogzoomonzoa: pcmcia is enabled as default02:46
christianefrogzoo: The wiki daimoh mentioned says "Disable", too.02:46
MattDaPcWizyes well thats all well and good02:46
symtabanyone compilled a mplayer 32bit on a amd64 ubuntu installation02:46
symtab?02:46
AXL888ok02:46
sonicGB_fyrestrtr: I think it's save to assume that there's a browse master online all the time. If the existing browse master dissapears, the other boxes will figure that out pretty quickly, and hold an election to set another one02:46
AXL888ok02:46
AXL888ok02:46
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AXL888ok02:46
AXL888ok02:46
sonicGB_s/save/safe/02:46
AXL888ok02:46
MattDaPcWizbut it does not RECOGNISE my Marvell Yukon device and i need to get my drivers working for it02:46
AXL888ok02:46
AXL888a02:46
AXL888sa02:46
AXL888fd02:46
AXL888dsa02:46
AXL888aw02:46
rapidMattDaPcWiz, get the right driver for it and install it02:46
sonicGB_ignore AXL88802:46
AXL888fr02:46
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AXL888sd02:46
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AXL888sd02:47
AXL888ignore sonicGB02:47
arte_where is Rapid airlines ? :)02:47
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rapidarte_: yo. in australia02:47
sonicGB_"The Winner is Syd-en-ey!"02:47
arte_:)02:47
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seanhfyrestrtr sonicGB_ : Okay, when I get into the server, I see the share "CONKER", it says it's a smb-share, when I click it I get a long error message about "Cannot open CONKER because the filetype indicates it's a desktop configuration file, but the contents show it's a smb-share02:47
AXL888the winner is Zhony!02:47
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arte_oh sure .. i thought its somewhere in africa02:48
IndyGUnFreakhow do you ignore a user?02:48
MattDaPcWizok rapid, this is the ONLY driver for it, i am trying to install it and the only problem is that it is saying a syntax erroir 68 to do with a certain ")" symbol02:48
rapidIndyGUnFreak, /ignore02:48
sonicGB_seanh: fark! that's what I love about computers... they're always coming up with new erra messages that you've never seen before... *cough*02:48
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seanhIt says it won't open the share in case it's a security risk02:48
sonicGB_IndyGUnFreak: use /ignore <username>02:48
IndyGUnFreaki think it worked, thanks02:48
rapidMattDaPcWiz, is it a linux driver, did you read the docs for the driver.02:49
sonicGB_u welcome02:49
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rapidarte_, could be, I'm in australia :)02:49
apokryphosroot_: you shouldn't IRC as root02:49
oxwhats the  irc channel for glx stuff?02:49
rapidroot_: you should get banned for that.02:49
arte_me too .. :)02:49
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jribox: #ubuntu-xgl?02:49
nolimitsoyaox, #ubuntu-glx02:49
karakaralol02:49
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arte_ah02:49
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oxahh xgl yes thanks02:49
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MattDaPcWizrapid, yes it is a linux driver, i specifically searched for linux driver and found one on the intel site and a few others but they are all THE SAME DRIVER02:50
sonicGB_rapid: fwiw, we discussed MattDaPcWiz 's problem earlier today. The Marvel Yukon is a gigabit ethernet adaptor that (unfortunately) has a bit of a history in ubuntu.... there are two different drivers for it, one called sky2, and onother called <something>98<something>...02:50
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sonicGB_the sky2 is borken for many people02:50
arte_whois rapid02:50
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arte_:)02:50
MattDaPcWizsky2 is the one that i have02:50
sonicGB_so what he needs to do is find the older driver in module form... unload the sky2 and load the other02:50
MattDaPcWizi jus tam having trouble installing it02:50
monzoamy souncard dosnot work02:50
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arte_rapid is australian lol02:50
sonicGB_but he dissapeared offline this morning before I got to spell that out02:50
daimohrapid: any handy urls for figuring out why my flgrx stuff ain't working? (getting that mesa3d stuff with flgrxinfo)02:50
MattDaPcWiznononononono i just need to installsky2 but it wont let me :'(02:50
apokryphos!repeat02:51
MUTUHow long does Ubuntu take to boot from the DVD? I burned the DVD from one machine and I'm trying to install it to another, but it's making funny sounds and it's been trying to boot for ages02:51
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience02:51
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arte_kengoo02:51
apokryphos!offtopic | sonicGB_02:51
ubotusonicGB_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:51
rapiddiamoh: one second.02:51
IndyGUnFreakMutu, it only takes about 30sec on my machine02:51
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IndyGUnFreakbut i guess it would all depend on the PC02:51
sonicGB_MattDaPcWiz: according to the gargling i did this morning, the sky2 driver is included in the distro you have, but sky2 is borken for lots of folks02:51
arte_rapid where is this server location ?02:51
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MUTUIndyGUnFreak: it's taken 5 mins from mine and it's giving Buffer I/O error on device hdc02:52
MattDaPcWizright, so how do i load this fixed one?02:52
MattDaPcWizi have it02:52
IndyGUnFreakhmm02:52
MattDaPcWizwhere do i put it?02:52
rapidarte_: I honestly don't know.. run a traceroute or a nmap02:52
sonicGB_!fuckyouyougotohellandyoudie | apokryphos02:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fuckyouyougotohellandyoudie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:52
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IndyGUnFreakMUTU, I would probably try to download the Alternate Install CD02:52
MUTUhdc would be the DVD-ROM drive?02:52
up365monzoa: go to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544902:52
kkaisareGreetings all.02:52
IndyGUnFreakshould be.02:53
MUTUI could reburn the ISO...02:53
IndyGUnFreakMutu, thats what I would do.02:53
IndyGUnFreakbut burn the Alternate Install CD02:53
MUTUcos i burned it on a dvd which was a bit scatched already :)02:53
IndyGUnFreaklol02:53
IndyGUnFreakwell that might be your problem02:53
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IndyGUnFreakreburning would be a good idea.02:53
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MUTUbut it verified on my DVDRW02:53
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seanhAnyone know what to do about this error, when trying to access a smb-share on a Windows machine? http://seanh.freeshell.org/screenshot.png02:53
desert88hi02:53
MUTUlemme try another dvd :)02:53
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MattDaPcWizsonicGB_ can i chat to u privately?02:54
desert88im new to linux02:54
desert88can anyone help me install amarok02:54
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rapiddiamoh: just make sure you read the docs when install fglrx .02:54
flasher222i installed a program via "sudo aptitude install foo". If I go "sudo aptitude remove foo", will it remove _everything_ that the install installed?02:54
rapiddesert88: try a apt-get install amarok02:54
apokryphosdesert88: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic02:54
MattDaPcWizDesert88, welcome to the club02:54
jribflasher222: use purge, not remove02:54
malt1is there any way to have the linux server backup all the users home folder?02:54
desert88k thnx02:54
johns^malt1: tons of ways02:54
flasher222jrib: oops. too late. how can i undo my remove?02:54
rapidmalt1, of course, use tar02:55
johns^or rsync02:55
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jribflasher222: install :P02:55
flasher222jrib: you're serious?02:55
malt1like to get it to backup there folders 1 time a week to a certain directory02:55
jribflasher222: yes, I don't know of another way02:55
johns^yeah reboot time. Removed fc-6 and edgy is back :)02:55
MattDaPcWizSonicgb_ can i have a private conversation with u?02:55
frogzooseanh: did you mount the smb share ?02:55
rapidmalt1: make a cron entry to tar /home weekly02:55
daimohrapid: there's docs? :)02:55
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Zodiac`i tried to do some stuff with partion magic and with ubuntu install, it didnt go, and when i tried to run "Norton Partion Magic" again, i got this error: "Drive letters cannot be identified" :/ Someone help? (nolimitsoya)02:56
rapiddiamoh: of course there is...02:56
flasher222jrib: ok.02:56
apokryphosMattDaPcWiz: that person is not in the channel.02:56
johns^rsync is a better option :)02:56
seanhfrogzoo -- I have to mount it first? Do you know how I do it?02:56
johns^incremental backups to another dir, backups of removed files02:56
frogzooseanh: easiest way I think is to use smb4k02:56
flasher222if i install something via "sudo apt-get install foo", can i still run "sudo aptitude remove" OR "sudo aptitude purge"?02:56
MattDaPcWizcrap he musta left02:56
daimohrapid: i just followed http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide02:56
daimohthe top bit02:56
apokryphosflasher222: yes, but it won't remove the extra depends it brought in02:56
flasher222another question; how can i filter my command line history by the phrase "word1 word2"?02:57
Zodiac`nolimitsoya, i tried to do some stuff with partion magic and with ubuntu install, it didnt go, and when i tried to run "Norton Partion Magic" again, i got this error: "Drive letters cannot be identified" :/02:57
daimohthe quick & "easy" bit02:57
MattDaPcWizalright can i have a private convo with ANYONE about trouble with a Marvell Yukon Adaptor02:57
apokryphosflasher222: cat ~/.bash_history|grep word1 word202:57
flasher222oh, apokryphos, so why would anyone want to use apt-get then, when aptitude is so much better?02:57
gnomefreakapokryphos: fan club?02:57
rapiddaimoh: I'm not sure with ubuntu.. but if it returns a MESA string somethings not right. as stated in the fglrx documentation from memory.02:57
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apokryphos!msg| MattDaPcWiz02:57
ubotuMattDaPcWiz: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.02:57
daimohmattdapc: that sonic dude got kicked - just msg him direct02:57
apokryphosgnomefreak: must be 8)02:57
gnomefreakflasher222: aptitude isnt better in all situations02:57
apokryphosflasher222: because it's not always better. It depends on what you want to do.02:58
MattDaPcWizalright fine im going to ask this one more time02:58
flasher222are there some situations/packages when a aptitude purge is the same as an aptitude remove?02:58
daimohrapid: yeah, i think that means the dri thing is broken. I read something that says one thing to try, but that thing to try don't work. I'll dig around a bit more - thanks02:58
flasher222apokryphos: when is aptitude worse than apt-egt02:58
apokryphosflasher222: purge removes config files, remove doesn't02:58
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flasher222and all packages have config files?02:58
rapiddaimoh: i would google for fglrx and read the docs.02:58
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KillerTflasher: I use aptitude before aptget02:59
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apokryphosflasher222: aptitude automatically installs recommends. Sometimes you don't always want that. Furthermore, sometimes you dont' always want to remove extra depends lying around.02:59
gnomefreakflasher222: one when you dont know what your doing. 2 when some of the depends are from 3rd party repos02:59
daimohrapid: will do - cheers02:59
flasher222For example, lame, timidity, noteedit02:59
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buddhaloverhello world02:59
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nolimitsoya!hi | buddhalover02:59
KillerTgnome-freak: u get that with either or02:59
ubotubuddhalover: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:59
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MattDaPcWizalright i have a Marvell Yukon adaptor built into my motherboard, i GOT A LINUX DRIVER sky2 for it and it is supposed to work and i have folloed the instructions, but when it telle me to run the install.sh i do so and it says syntax error 68 and compains about a vertain ")" symbol, and i cannot find any abnormal ones is there a way i can manually place the files or SOMETHING?02:59
MattDaPcWizi would prefer not to backtrack02:59
nolimitsoyaMattDaPcWiz, please, youve already been instructed on the issue. follow that advice03:00
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flasher222Do \all packages have config files?03:00
gnomefreakKillerT: no you dont apt-get wont remove needed packages (if you dont know about what packages are needed than aptitude can mess you up03:00
Bernardohi03:00
MattDaPcWizno i have not03:00
nolimitsoyaflasher222, no, but many03:00
Zodiac`i tried to do some stuff with partion magic and with ubuntu install, it didnt go, and when i tried to run "Norton Partion Magic" again, i got this error: "Drive letters cannot be identified" :/03:00
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nolimitsoyaMattDaPcWiz, yes you have, you have been told to install the other driver03:00
flasher222nolimitsoya: i see03:00
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semboyhello guys , does anyone knowz about autoinstaller03:00
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, as i said, resizeing is dangerous03:00
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KillerTgnomefreak: aptitude will fill in depends03:00
BernardoI'm haing a problem installing mythtv-database in edgy, no mather what password I give it, it always calls mysql with user "root" with no password03:00
semboyhello guys , does anyone knowz about nvidia autoinstaller03:00
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Nippoocan someone tell me why I should choose Ubuntu over Debian for a home PC?03:01
apokryphosMattDaPcWiz: please don't be annoying.03:01
gnomefreakKillerT: not always it wont03:01
MattDaPcWiznolimitsoya WHAT ADVICE HAVE BEEN GIVEN?03:01
apokryphos!caps03:01
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:01
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nolimitsoya!patience03:01
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:01
Zodiac`nolimitsoya, how to fix then? :/03:01
Bernardoany mythtv/mysql wiz here?03:01
gnomefreakKillerT: it trys to fix existing and alot of times you will see it does more harm than good03:01
flasher222i am on xubuntu/xfce. i have installed a program that uses kde libraries.03:01
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nolimitsoyaZodiac`, it might not even be possible. as i said, its dangerous. hope you have a backup :)03:01
Zodiac`havn't XD03:01
KillerTgnome-freak: Yeah...if the settings are correct. And it will fix broken packages too03:01
mrabbithey, my torrents on ubuntu 6.10 rarely reach 30kb/s, but on suse they used to average at 50kb/s, does anybody have a solution please?03:02
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flasher222If that kde program is not currently being used, will the kde libraries be  working in the background, slowing my computer down?03:02
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, then you better take some deep breaths :P03:02
apokryphos!tab | KillerT03:02
ubotuKillerT: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.03:02
apokryphosflasher222: no03:02
nolimitsoyaflasher222, they might, but usualy shouldnt03:02
seanhfrogzoo - smb4k is saying smbmnt fails, it says "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts"03:02
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gnomefreakKillerT: no it works around them most of time depending on how broken it is. apt-get -f install fixes broken packages03:02
fenrighi03:02
Nippoowhat is better about Ubuntu than Debian?03:02
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Zodiac`nolimitsoya, so i have like just throwed away 10gb?03:02
apokryphoshello03:02
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Zodiac`and cant use partition magic anymore?03:02
monzoahow to active pcmcia03:02
apokryphos!relationship | Nippoo03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about relationship - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:02
diskusNippoo: desktop readiness03:02
apokryphosdang03:02
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, that might very well be the case :)03:02
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Zodiac`ubuntu should be easy to install, hell no..03:03
MattDaPcWiznolimitsoya can u please tell me what advice i have been given that has worked? i just started using linux today man gimme a break and help me03:03
diskuswell it's a lot easier than debian03:03
CharminTheMooseZodiac it is easy to  instaall03:03
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nolimitsoyaZodiac`, if someone tells you something is realy dangerous you should exercise caution and ask one time to many rather than one time to little :)03:03
apokryphos!relationship is <reply> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship03:03
flasher222apokryphos:  "cat ~/.bash_history|grep word1 word2" does not work, because it thinks that word2 is a file or directory03:03
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mrabbitplease help, it took a day to download 247mb03:03
Zodiac`nolimitsoya, still it sucks03:03
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apokryphosflasher222: use quotes then03:03
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, ubuntu is _very_ easy to install. its just that resizeing is dangerous if you dont know what you are doing or if youre having bad luck03:04
gnomefreakapokryphos: i thought ther ewas one for that under a different name03:04
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flasher222apokryphos: ahh! just like google03:04
gnomefreak!debian | apokryphos03:04
ubotuapokryphos: Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship03:04
fenrigwhere can i get gpart for ubuntu?03:04
CharminTheMoosezodiac` ubuntu is very easy to install as long as you know wtf you're talking about03:04
KillerTapokryphos: thnx...some reason I didn't think to try tab\ with gaim03:04
Nippooheheh.03:04
Nippoo!shut up!03:04
diskusZodiac`: you suck probably if you think that installing ubuntu is not easy :P03:04
ubotu:x03:04
Nippoo=)03:04
gnomefreakfenrig: its in main i believe03:04
Nippoosorry. couldn't help it.03:04
TimothyPHello, I have a computer with 7 hard drives, Ubuntu sees all of them but when I try to configure raid 0 I can only select up to 3 devices and ubuntu does nothing with it, I tried using LVM but it says the kernel does not support it, why is it in there then and how do I use it, I need to get one really big partition03:04
gnomefreak!info gparted03:04
ubotugparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1.1ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 314 kB, installed size 1588 kB03:04
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fenrigstrange03:05
Zodiac`diskus, it did so that i cant run partition magic anymore..03:05
MattDaPcWiznolimitsoya can u please tell me what advice i have been given that has worked? i just started using linux today man gimme a break and help me03:05
gnomefreakfenrig: sudo apt-get install gparted03:05
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diskusZodiac`: it was probably you who did that03:05
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apokryphosgnomefreak: yeah, just added an alias now; added more info.03:05
seanhIs there any command to mount a Windows share once, without editing config files to mount it permanemtly?03:05
Zodiac`diskus, still, i did it while installing ubuntu XD03:05
KillerTapokryphos: my other clients i type piece of the name with : and it would fill in automatically03:05
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nolimitsoyaMattDaPcWiz, i cant. you have been adviced to use the <something>98<something> driver instead of the one you are curently attempting, and thats all i know03:05
diskusZodiac`: so it was you, not ubuntu..03:06
Zodiac`btw, where to download PARTINFO?03:06
Zodiac`symantec tells me to.03:06
MattDaPcWizright well thanks anyway03:06
apokryphosKillerT: tab is a much better method :P03:06
TimothyPnolimitsoya: I've known ubuntu to go wrong or mess up quite a few times, no matter how much people would love to say it's perfect, nothing is perfect :)03:06
MattDaPcWizseeya03:06
rapidask symantec03:06
KillerTapokryphos: true03:06
mrabbitplease somebody help me, these slow torrent speeds are evil :p03:06
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CharminTheMooseif i've already installed dellinc.inf and modprobed ndiswrapper and then reboot the computer,does modprobe modprobe it again at boot?03:06
flasher222i did "sudo aptitude purge someKDEprogram", but the only things removed were the KDEprogram and a few others. The KDE libraries seem to NOT have been removed/purged. pls advise03:06
flasher222(i'm on xubuntu{)03:06
rapidCharminTheMoose, no03:06
nolimitsoyaTimothyP, ive never said otherwize :)03:07
rapidCharminTheMoose, you will have to do it yourself. or add a script somewhere03:07
apokryphosflasher222: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs*03:07
apokryphosflasher222: if you really want to remove those extra libs03:07
CharminTheMooserapid:cool,thanks03:07
TimothyPI know I'm verifing what you were thinking :)03:07
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TimothyPbecause I noticed someone say you're stupid if you don't think it's easy to install, I think it's stupid for someone to make such a remark03:07
TimothyPso don't listen to them :)03:07
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flasher222apokryphos: ok. thanks. but how come sodo aptitude purge -omeKDEprogram, did not remove those libs, the libs that were installed when i did "sudo aptitude install someKDEprogram?03:07
tapasyo, i have a non computersavy friend who has installed windows on his other partition and now grub stage 1 is of course gone..03:08
apokryphosflasher222: could've been for many reasons03:08
fenrigcant find gparted03:08
fenrigreally not03:08
nolimitsoyaTimothyP, i think youre talking o the wrong person. im not the one with a messed up partition table :)03:08
CharminTheMoosetapas,then reinstall it!03:08
TimothyPah :)03:08
tapasgesides going through the typical a]  boot ffrom live cd b]  mount root partition c]  chroot into it d]  run grub-install03:08
apokryphosfenrig: alt+f2 -> gparted03:08
monzoaany indonesian03:08
tapas[which is too hard for him] 03:08
gnomefreakfenrig: make your sources/list use the net repos instead of the cd rom repos03:08
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TimothyPfenrig:  try adding universe / mutiverse repos03:08
tapasis there a fool proof way to do this from the live cd?03:08
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TimothyPanybody on the LVM question ?03:08
fenrigno03:09
gnomefreakapokryphos: its not installed by default is it"03:09
gnomefreak?03:09
CharminTheMoosetapas,Couldn't you do it?if you live close to your friend.03:09
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gnomefreakTimothyP: its in main03:09
theBishophas anyone booted Ubuntu PPC on a Playstation3 yet?03:09
flasher222apokryphos: Couldn't find package "kdelibs*".  However, the following packages contain "kdelibs*" in their name:  kdelibs4c2a kdelibs4-dev kdelibs4-doc kdelibs-data kdelibs5 kdelibs5-dev kdelibs-bin kdelibs-dbg kdelibs-dev   kdelibs-doc kdelibs03:09
FozzieAre there any Beryl experts around?03:09
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tapasCharminTheMoose: yah..i could go there and do it. but i wonder if ubuntu has a nice foolproof way for this, so i don't have to03:09
nolimitsoya!lvm | TimothyP03:09
ubotuTimothyP: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO03:09
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apokryphoserm, I'm pretty sure the wildcard should take care of that03:09
flasher222apokryphos: how do i remove all these?03:09
tapasi have better thigns to do03:09
gnomefreakflasher222: look at the last one03:09
TimothyPthnx :)03:09
rapidtapas: go do your better things than03:09
apokryphosflasher222: just do sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2a03:09
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TimothyPFozzie:  depends on what you need to know :p03:10
tapasrapid: thanks for the awesome help..03:10
gnomefreaktrying to remove kde all together?03:10
rapidtapas: no worries03:10
gnomefreakhint libqt3-mt03:10
tapasso the answer to my question is: "no"?03:10
FozzieTimothyp I just installed Beryl, and now my cpu's at 100%03:10
mrabbitplease help me, i cant find any solution for my slow torrents, they average at 50kb/s on suse, but rarely reach 30kb/s on ubuntu03:10
semboy_ello guys , my nat got split , i am askin agein , is there a program that can let me installd nvidia driver for my computer ?? i mean autoinstall03:10
nolimitsoyaFozzie, beryl is experimental, broken and buggy03:10
Zodiac`" Error #120: Logical Drive chain extends toward start of drive."03:10
rapidmrabbit, go suse :)03:10
apokryphosgnomefreak: hm, you're right.03:10
TimothyPFozzie: what graphics card are you using?03:10
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gnomefreakFozzie: join #ubuntu-xgl for help with it03:10
mrabbitrapid:i left suse cos it kept playing up03:10
rapidmrabbit, i can't help you i use slackware03:11
semboy_!nvidiainstaller03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvidiainstaller - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
flasher222apokryphos: if i do "sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2a" will it remove all kde stuff?03:11
mrabbitrapid:i had to keep reinstalling it :p, i prefer ubuntu for everything else03:11
Fozziei've got a poor ATI Radeon 200m03:11
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nolimitsoya!nvidia > semboy03:11
gnomefreakapokryphos: libqt3-mt is the main qt library03:11
apokryphosflasher222: try, and see.03:11
gnomefreakflasher222: remove libqy3-mt03:11
gnomefreakoops03:11
nolimitsoya!nvidia > semboy_03:11
gnomefreaklibqt3-mt03:11
semboy_nolimitsoya i want to autoinstall :S03:11
apokryphosflasher222: if you want to remove all qt-related libs then remove what gnomefreak says too03:11
TimothyPI had simular problems at first, didn't have enough video memory03:11
nolimitsoyasemboy_, look at the message from ubotu03:12
fenrigit doesnt work03:12
diskusFozzie: I would suggest that forget XGL with express 200M for atleast 6 months03:12
fenrigwell il boot the live cd03:12
semboy_nolimitsoya i got it03:12
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fenrigoh can sombody help me out03:12
fenrigwith my nvidia driver03:12
apokryphos!helpme03:12
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:12
gnomefreakfenrig: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please03:12
Zodiac`nolimitsoya, Error #120: Logical Drive chain extends toward start of drive.03:12
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gnomefreakfenrig: now nvidia?03:12
apokryphosfenrig: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic03:12
Fozzieok, whats the best way to uninstall it all?03:12
osahHello can someone help me :)03:12
semboy_nolimitsoya but it does not allow me to autoinstall03:12
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gnomefreakfenrig: what happened with gparted03:12
mrabbitplease can somebody help me, it's like the ports arnt correctly opened, my router is set up fine, and i dont think im running a firewall on ubuntu03:12
rapidosah: JUST ASK03:12
TimothyPFozzie: dunno about the ATI drivers, but the NVIDIA drivers have that problem because they can't use shared memory for a certain extension03:12
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, youve probaly hozed your partitiontable. all data on that drive would most likely be lost03:12
fenrigno but03:12
flasher222apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37363/. should i do "autoremove"03:12
fenrigeverything is installed03:12
fenrigbut it doesnt works03:13
semboy_nolimitsoya i have heard that , there is an autoinstaller for nvidia , but i guyess i got it wrong03:13
fenrigstrange i think03:13
osahI have a fat32 partition I:, how can i access it from ubuntu.. so i can place my windows files on it and then on linux access it... i thought linux can read fat32...03:13
TimothyPsemboy_ no there is one03:13
gnomefreakfenrig: paste your /etc/apt/sources.lis file to pastebin03:13
apokryphosflasher222: looks ok03:13
tapasoh well i figure then it is..03:13
rapidosah: it can aslong as your kernel says so03:13
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semboy_fimothyp okei03:13
TimothyPsemboy_ can't think of the name tough but it's noted on beryl project site03:13
seanhAnyone know what the username and password are supposed to be, when mounting a Windows share from Ubuntu? Is it the username and password of one of the Windows users?03:13
osahrapid: do you know how i can configure it? to do so?03:13
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CharminTheMooseseanh:WHy not?03:13
semboy_timothyp k03:13
gnomefreakflasher222: you will still have kde things installed03:13
flasher222will i still be able to use opera browser if i remove qt and kde libraries?03:14
osahit deosnt have to read NTFS, but fat32 woul;d be helpful03:14
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mrabbitosah:sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda[num]  /media/fat03:14
mrabbiti think03:14
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gnomefreakflasher222: i dont think opera is qt based03:14
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fenrigits past03:14
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rapidosah: try that. if not you need vfat or fat32 enabled in your kernel. read a kernel-howto03:14
flasher222gnomefreak: i will still have kde things installed if what?03:14
nolimitsoyaZodiac`, you could try some partition/data recovery program, but dont get your hopes up03:14
fenrighttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37364/03:14
apokryphosit is, but the version installed is probably got static-qt in it03:14
gnomefreakflasher222: if you use autoremove03:14
apokryphosactually, their deb might not03:14
flasher222gnomefreak: oh03:14
seanhCharminTheMoose - my windows user doesn't remember what the username or password might be (windows never asks for it, but won't tell you what it is either)03:15
elSandrosWhen I boot of a DVD containing Ubuntu, and choose "Install or boot Ubuntu" (or something similar), am I then supposed to go into ash?03:15
apokryphosflasher222: for these questions there's no point asking us :P. APT will *tell you* everything that it will do before it does it.03:15
osahi got   sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1/media/fat03:15
osahdoesnt seem to mount,, returns only help03:15
nolimitsoyaelSandros, no, you are supposed to get a live environment with x03:15
apokryphosflasher222: so i.e. if it was going to remove opera, it would say that.03:15
gnomefreakflasher222: sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt   to get rid of all kde things (along with everything qt based03:15
elSandroshm... crap03:15
flasher222so if i want to remove kde things (i'm guessing you mean libraries, etc), i should do as you said "remove libqy3-mt"? yes+03:15
mrabbitosah:try a space between hdb1 and media03:15
nolimitsoyaelSandros, try safe graphics mode, or the alternate install cd for a cli install03:16
fenrigcan sombody help me with the nvidia driver?03:16
elSandrosnolimitsoya: will do...03:16
mrabbitlike 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /media/fat'03:16
gnomefreakfenrig: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:16
osahmount point /media/fat does not exist03:16
Zodiac`nolimitsoya, it doesnt matter this error.. not much, but 10gb is a bit :P03:16
elSandrosthough i don't fancy the idea of a cli install03:16
Nippooanyone know what utility I use to make something like this: http://www.ubuntu.com/include/testing/flight2/bootchart-big.png03:16
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mrabbittry 'sudo mkdir /media/fat' first03:16
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CharminTheMoosegnomefreak:what about apt-get remove --purge kde* libqt3*?03:16
FozzieI LOVE UBUNTU03:16
FozzieThanks for help everyone03:16
flasher222doing " sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt" will remove opera03:16
gnomefreakCharminTheMoose: dont need to libqt3-mt will remove everything kde03:16
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flasher222Fozzie: UBunt loves you.03:17
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nolimitsoyaelSandros, its no biggie realy. its almost as straight forward as the ubiquity installer03:17
CharminTheMoosegnomefreak,ah03:17
osahit says  wrong fs type... (by the way hdb1 is a extended partition, not logical..)03:17
fenrigit said nothing is upgrade or changed03:17
elSandrosi'll try it then:)03:17
fenrigstrange03:17
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gnomefreakfenrig: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx03:17
seanhCharminTheMoose - so it should be the Windows user name and password I use to mount the share?03:17
gnomefreakfenrig: pastebin what it says03:17
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mgpalmerHello ! I wonder if there's a more sophisticated way to adjust the mouse settings than the GUI Panel ? Because I'd like to have no acceleration but high speed...03:17
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frogzooNippoo: that's pretty neat03:17
mrabbitwhat is the fat partition in hdb, cos u cant have an extended fat03:17
CharminTheMooseseanh:um,well to access it i would guess03:18
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mrabbitosah:try with hdb203:18
osahwell  F: is NTFS, and  I: is Fat32 (extended off F:)03:18
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osahhdb0 and hdb2 = does not exist error,  hdb1 (wrong fs type)03:18
mrabbitosah: try: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb2 /media/fat03:19
seanhCharminTheMoose - the Windows Administrator account doesn't appear to have a password?03:19
CharminTheMooseseanh: really?03:19
mrabbittry hdb303:19
osahis thgeree away to list all my hard drives, paritions03:20
CharminTheMooseseanh: then add a password03:20
fenrigah03:20
MUTUI downloaded the Ubuntu linux DVD from a torrent and I burned on my DVD-RW and it verified completely. But when trying to install it on my laptop, the DVD is giving Buffer I/O error on device hdc. Hardware problem?03:20
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fenrigcan sombody03:20
fenrighelp03:20
seanhCharminTheMoose - Windows never asks for one, if you access the share from another Windows machine it doesn't ask for one, we went into the Windows user settings, it says there is no password03:20
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fenrigthe nvidia driver is installed but03:20
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fenrigthe 3d acceleration isnt activeted or something03:20
fenrigit just doesnt works03:20
mrabbitosah: try: sudo fdisk -l03:21
nolimitsoyaMUTU, some drives are picky about booting rw. try an -r03:21
MUTUnolimitsoya: it is DVD-R03:21
fenrig:(03:21
MUTUit kept on going though03:21
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MUTUdo i need to worry?03:21
MUTUit _did_ boot eventually i.e.03:21
MUTUbut could it be corrupt?03:22
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nolimitsoyaMUTU, there is an option to check the disc in the boot menu03:22
mrabbitosah: does 'sudo fdisk -l' show you the fat partition on hdb?03:22
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frubihello03:23
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nolimitsoya!hi | frubi03:23
ubotufrubi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:23
MUTUwhat are the minimum requirements for ubuntu pls?03:23
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frubii have installed ubuntu on a ibook g403:23
mgpalmerHello again! I wonder if there's a more sophisticated way to adjust the mouse settings than the GUI Panel ? Because I'd like to have no acceleration but high speed...03:23
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mrabbitosah:are you there?03:23
frubibut after the first reboot, there cames only a kernel panic03:23
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nolimitsoyaMUTU, hasnt we been through this already? 192mb to boot the live cd/dvd, but there is no clear minimum for running the installed system03:23
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nolimitsoyaMUTU, if youre on a realy old pc you might want xubuntu isntead of ubuntu03:24
MUTUoh, i have 128MB ::(03:24
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nolimitsoyaMUTU, then get xubuntu-desktop and use the alternate installer03:24
MUTUnolimitsoya: nah, i'll upgrade this junk :)03:24
osahmrabbit,03:25
ppdhi. how can I enable the "standby" button in my gnome logout menu?03:25
nolimitsoyaMUTU, no, dont. thats a waste of money when you can get all the functionality for free by choosing another (imho better) window manager03:25
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osahyes i keep getting   error :/ i cant seem to find the hdX for that hard drive i guess, how do i list all partitions?03:25
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mrabbitosah:does 'sudo fdisk -l' show the fat partition on hdb03:25
osahyes i see it03:26
osahits hdb603:26
mrabbitosah: try: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb6 /media/fat03:26
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osahsweet rabbit worked :) will the files always be there now?03:27
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MUTUnolimitsoya: so only the window manager is different?03:27
nolimitsoyaMUTU, yes. xubuntu uses xfce and ubuntu gnome03:27
mrabbitosah:have a look in the /media/fat folder03:27
masuraanyone knows, where can be found cyrillic fonts for x-chat?03:27
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mrabbitosah:then i'll tell how to make it mount on boot03:27
nolimitsoyaMUTU, there is also the inofficial project fluxbuntu that uses fluxbox for wm03:27
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Duesentriebhi all. i'm running edgy, and just discovered that the text-mode virtual consoles no longer work (black screen).03:27
osahok  /media/fat works03:28
MUTUnolimitsoya: hmm and they also look very similar03:28
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osahhas my files listed03:28
Duesentriebis it possible that it no longer uses a "plain" crt mode?03:28
mrabbitosah:do you use gnome or kde?03:28
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nolimitsoya!xubuntu | MUTU03:28
ubotuMUTU: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"03:28
Duesentriebplease help, i'm lost without text mode :(03:28
osahgnome, wish it was kde but gnome came with ubuntu03:28
nolimitsoyakubuntu ! osah03:28
Duesentriebosah: use kubuntu then03:28
mrabbitosah: type: sudo gedit /etc/fstab03:28
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nolimitsoya!kubuntu | osah03:28
ubotuosah: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE03:28
rausb0Duesentrieb: try adding vga=791 to grub boot options03:28
seanhAnyone know how I enter a server name with a space in it in fstab?03:28
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Duesentriebso... does anyone here have a clue how i get back my text terminal?03:29
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sharperguy!wine03:29
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:29
osahsweet thx for kubuntu info.. ok gedit is open03:29
jpjacobsseanh, i guess escapeing the space with \03:29
Duesentriebrausb0: ah. uh... why wasn't that necessary before? and what exactly does it do?03:29
nolimitsoyaDuesentrieb, ctrl+alt+f1?03:29
seanhjpjacobs - doesn't seem to like that03:29
Duesentriebnolimitsoya: that gives me a black screen. that's why i'm here.03:29
rausb0Duesentrieb: it selects 1024x768 vesa frame buffer as text mode03:29
mrabbitosah: add '/dev/hdb6 /media/fat vfat users,owner,rw,umask=000 0 0' to the end of the file and save03:29
jpjacobsseanh, it was just a guess03:29
nolimitsoyaDuesentrieb, sudo apt-get install screen03:29
seanhjpjacobs - %20 seems to work03:30
MUTUnolimitsoya, ubotu: how does the Ubuntu DVD compare to the xubuntu LiveCD + installer though?03:30
Duesentriebnolimitsoya: how would that resolve an issue with the graphics mode?03:30
osahwith '03:30
sharperguyHow do I find out what wine versoin i have?03:30
mrabbitosah: remove the quote signs03:30
Duesentriebrausb0: uh, for the virtual terminals, or for boot log?03:30
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rausb0Duesentrieb: for the VTs03:30
mrabbitosah:just the text inside the ' signs, as a new line in the file, then save03:30
Duesentriebrausb0: cool, thanks. sounds like this is it.03:30
osahmrabbit, saved03:30
nolimitsoyaMUTU, im not sure what you mean... get the alternate installer and do a cli install. then apt-get xubuntu-desktop03:30
ajax4Hey everyone...just did a clean install of Edgy and everything went great. However, when I went to do the first batch of updates it hangs on update of the package gnome-games-data...anyone heard of this error?03:31
osahwill the hdb6 appear in "My Computer" on ubuntu?03:31
mrabbitosah:now reboot and see if it is mounted when you are booted03:31
nolimitsoyaosah dont03:31
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osah:s ?03:31
DARKGuyMornin' :) anybody wants to help me with some xterm issue? I know, it's weird :P but in my .Xresources I have "xterm*reverseVideo: true" to force black background and white text, but it only works when I run "xterm" from another terminal, because when I start xterm using the menu functions (I'm using fluxbox) it's white with black display. Is there a way to override that system-wide? :(03:31
nolimitsoyaosah, you dont have to reboot to test that. just 'sudo mount -a'03:31
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MUTUnolimitsoya: what I mean is that I have an ISO of Ubuntu which is 3.5GB and the ISO for xubuntu is < 600MB. Surely it's not just the window manager which is different?03:32
mrabbitosah:it should appear as *GB Volume: fat03:32
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mrabbitosah:where * is size of partition03:32
osahwhere will it appear03:32
osahon   My Computer?03:32
nolimitsoyaMUTU, the dvd contains many of the most popular packages that are not in the default install. those are not on the cd.03:32
Jordan_UMTU: No, xubuntu also has lighter weight applications03:32
mrabbitosah:yes it will next to 'filesystem'03:32
amortvigilhow can i find my usb mout point?03:32
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osahok  mount -a  did not make it appear03:32
jpjacobsseanh, see pm03:32
mrabbitosah:try rebooting, thats what i did when i mounted my partitions the other day03:33
nolimitsoyaosah, dont reboot03:33
nolimitsoyamrabbit, please stop advicing that. it doesnt make any diffrece03:33
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Enquestif I buy a monitor with screen resolution 1920 1205... Is it then possible to say to gnome that windows should open: the first window left 1000px second window 920px. I want them to fit nicly03:33
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EnquestOr should I realy have two monitors ?03:33
osahnolimitsoya:  mount -a  did not return an error, but neither did it add the filesystem to my computer03:34
MUTUnolimitsoya: but those packages can be installed later from the internet or from the ubuntu DVD if i install xubuntu?03:34
mrabbitnolimitsoya:in order to test whether something works on boot, one must try booting03:34
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mrabbitnolimitsoya:logic03:34
nolimitsoyaosah, jhave you checked the dir where it was supposed tomount?03:34
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nolimitsoyamrabbit, in this case thats false :)03:34
nolimitsoyaMUTU, yes03:34
MUTUthanks nolimitsoya03:34
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osahyes03:35
mrabbitnolimitsoya:it is already mounted, because i told him the manual command, but its time to test whether the fstab entry works03:35
desert88hey guys03:35
osahthe dir shows files 'ls'03:35
amortvigilwhere can i finf my usb mount point?03:35
desert88does amarok play itunes drmed tracks?03:35
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pradeepdesert88, no03:35
desert88damn03:35
desert88ok03:35
DARKGuymrabbit: to test the fstab there's no need to reboot, actually03:35
nolimitsoyaosah, try mount -l to see what filesystems are mounted where03:35
masurahihi03:35
osah'/dev/hdb6 /media/fat vfat users,owner,rw,umask=000 0 0'03:35
osahit has thatr listed03:35
osahmount -l03:35
nolimitsoyaosah, good. then you are all set03:36
osah/dev/hdb6 on /media/fat type vfat (rw) [] 03:36
osahbut i do not see it under 'my computer'03:36
nolimitsoyaosah, you arent supposed to03:36
osahi can only access it  by going   cd /media/fat03:36
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osahoh, can i add it somehow to MY Computer03:36
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root_hi, I have Ubuntu Edgy, and at start of XServer (after one apt... dist-upgrade) say that missing font fixed, which package do I have to install, to fix it?03:37
nolimitsoyaosah, read up on mounting if things are unclear :) in unix, everything is a file. even folders are files. drives are accessed by making them files. if you want that file to be in a particular place, just mount there :)03:37
mrabbitosah:try rebooting, mine appeared in my computer after reboot, and just use nautilus file manager in gnome to navigate for /media/fat so you dont have to use cd commands all the time03:37
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nolimitsoyaosah, dont reboot03:37
nolimitsoyaosah, if you want to try that, just save all your work and press ctrl+alt+backspace. a linux machine never has to be rebooted, uless you want to switch kernel03:38
mrabbitnolimitsoya:i dont know where you've developed your fear of rebooting03:38
osahoh i see :)03:38
mrabbitah, i never knew that03:38
nolimitsoyamrabbit, its a fobia of mine :)03:38
DARKGuyIt's not really fear, it's just that it isn't needed as it is in Windows :P03:38
root_nolimitsoya: please say about the XServer issue :)03:38
IndyGUnFreaki wouldn't say "never" has to be rebooted03:38
karimubuntu doesn't want to supppoort PPC anymore ? That's really a joke.03:38
nolimitsoyaroot_, ?03:38
mrabbitnolimitsoya: you mean 'phobia'03:38
root_nolimitsoya: I need to have font fixed03:38
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ciplogic:)03:39
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nolimitsoyamrabbit, i might, yes. english is not my naitive language03:39
IndyGUnFreaki installed a bunch of updates yesterday, adn it told me i had to reboot in order for them to take effect03:39
ciplogicnolimitsoya: there was a bug in Ubuntu that I connect to irssi using sudo su - :)03:39
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mrabbitright, now can somebody please help with my slow torrent problem03:39
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nolimitsoyaciplogic, what about it?03:40
ciplogicnolimitsoya: do you know which package have font "fixed" from XServer?03:40
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nolimitsoyaroot_, be specific03:40
IndyGUnFreakmrabbit, are you using a hardware firewall/router?03:40
osahctrl+alt+backspace, logged me off... :)03:40
osahhey if i do not save my workspace will it not save the updates i did etc..?03:40
nolimitsoyaosah, its supposed to :)03:40
osahand how do i save the workspace anyways03:40
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mrabbitindygunfreak:yes a router, but it is fine cos torrents worked fine in suse on this laptop03:40
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nolimitsoyaosah, i told you to save your work03:40
pr3d4t0rGood morning.03:41
osahnolimitsoya, how do i do that :)03:41
Jordan_UIndyGUnFreak: It often says that even when you don't need to because, for instance, not everyone would know what " restart X for changes to affect " means03:41
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IndyGUnFreaki'm not super familiar with it, but i know you  need to do whats caleld "port forwarding"03:41
jimr1603hi all03:41
nolimitsoyaciplogic, be specific please. i dont knowwhat you are talking about03:41
mrabbitosah:just save any documents you have open03:41
mrabbitosah:so you dont lose anything ur editing03:41
osahmrabbit, goto http://192.168.1.1/  to forward ports :)03:41
nolimitsoyaosah, just click the 'save' button in openoffice, fex03:41
osahoh so im not losing updates i did last night like 100 somewhat packages03:41
nolimitsoyaosah, nope03:41
poningruosah: naah03:41
mrabbitosah:my ports are forwarded fine on my router03:42
ciplogicnolimitsoya: the X server starts, and at start it said to me: missing font "fixed" and that is because of unsuccessful update after a "dist-upgrade"03:42
osahbecause i just logged back in and its downloading 50 somewhat packages again thats why i was wondering03:42
nolimitsoyaosah, ctrl+alt+backspace kills your graphical environment. it does nothing to your files03:42
nolimitsoyaosah, then these are new packages03:42
ciplogicnolimitsoya: the solution is to install the package of xserver which has support for standard XServer fonts03:42
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pr3d4t0rQ. I believe that my upgrade from Dapper to Edgy went well; I just rebooted the system and it came back up.  What is the way to confirm that Edgy is the current release running on the box?  How do I check if this (headless) system is coming up with Upstart instead of /sbin/init ?  Thanks in advance.03:42
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nolimitsoyaciplogic, xfonts-base03:42
seanhI just mounted a samba share following the MountWindowsSharesPermanently guide. Now I have a folder on the desktop where the share is mounted, but only root can write to the folder. BUT I also see the share in Places->Network Servers at the top level cause it's mounted now, and if I go to it that way anyone can write to it. Is there any way to mount the share that way without mounting it to a folder?03:42
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osahhey if i want KDE (kubuntu) would i need to remove this gnome version one? :/03:42
osahor can i just add KDE to this one too03:42
nolimitsoyamrabbit, are you using a personal firewall?03:43
ciplogicnolimitsoya: danke03:43
mrabbitsec nolimitsoya03:43
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nolimitsoyaosah, you can run both, but itll, be a mess03:43
IndyGUnFreakpr3d4tor: System>About Ubuntu03:43
nolimitsoyaosah, i suggest you reinstall clean03:43
osahnolimitsoya, you ever used fluxbox?03:43
pr3d4t0rIndyGUnFreak: HEADLESS.03:43
IndyGUnFreakmy bad.03:43
IndyGUnFreakdidn't see tht.03:43
nolimitsoyaosah, yes i have, but i prefer xfce03:43
pr3d4t0rIndyGUnFreak: :)03:43
osahnolimitsoya, clean :-/ aww i spend hours last night configuring my nvidia card, that would mean start over03:43
Jordan_Uosah: You can have both KDE and gnome ( and any other WM ) instaled at the same time03:43
jimr1603hi, does anybody know where i can get the inf file for Atheros AR5005G? It's an internal card so I don't have an install cd or anything for it.03:44
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pr3d4t0rIndyGUnFreak: cat /etc/lvs-release says "Edgy" and "6.10" - is there any software that would confirm that?03:44
nolimitsoyaosah, yes, but thats real easy :) just 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'03:44
nolimitsoyaosah, do you have your /home on a separate partition?03:44
osahwell i had to do much more some grep stuff etc.. someone guided me through03:44
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nolimitsoyaosah, you usualy dont have to. thats just if youve messed with your xorg.conf before. btwm you can just backup your xorg.conf and reinsert it aterwards, and youre all fine :)03:45
Jordan_U!nvidia | osah03:45
ubotuosah: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:45
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AieronPetershi.. can someone help me install ipmi onto a Dell 1425sc rack server? Running Edgy server...03:45
mrabbit_i dont think im using a firewall03:45
mrabbit_how can i check03:45
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osahnolimits how would i backup xconf.org to my fat32  (hdb6)03:45
nolimitsoyamrabbit_, have you installed something like firestarter?03:46
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mrabbit_no03:46
nolimitsoyaosah, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /<dir to backup to>03:46
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mrabbit_i just forwarded some more ports on router, but still slow03:46
nolimitsoyamrabbit_, then all should work. you mean it isnt?03:46
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mrabbit_it isnt going anywhere near as fast as it should03:47
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nolimitsoyamrabbit_, how do you know?03:47
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mrabbit_stays around 15kb/s whilst on windows it reached 50kb/s on average03:47
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nolimitsoyamrabbit_, same torrent on same port, with same quetime and seed ratio?03:47
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rade0nhello ..03:48
mrabbit_yep03:48
vitriolwhat is wxpython called? i am having trouble finding it with apt-cache03:48
osahnolimitsoya, thanx got it backed up03:48
mrabbit_same config03:48
rade0nanyone can help me please?03:48
osahrade0n ask03:48
nolimitsoyaosah, to reinsert it later just type 'sudo cp /<dir you backed up to>/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:48
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rade0ni have a problem geting in to a website wich was made for iexplorer03:49
rade0nand i have firefox03:49
nolimitsoyarade0n, ie4linux03:49
rade0ni tried that03:49
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rade0nbut i can't get connected to the internet03:49
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mrabbit_nolimitsoya:any ideas, maybe the ports arnt open properly in ubuntu, although they are supposed to open when prog tries to listen on them03:50
Jordan_Urade0n: that's odd, did you try changeing the user agent string?03:50
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nolimitsoyamrabbit_, the only whay that could happen is if youve installed an iptables firewall, and you say you havnt03:50
nolimitsoya*-h03:51
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mrabbit_nolimitsoya:BRAINWAVE! how can i open a port permanently in ubuntu, cos download doesnt try to listen on udp port, but peers try to connect to it03:51
osahnolimitsoya, which desktop enviroment are you using?03:51
osahmrabbit, http://192.168.1.1/03:51
rade0nuhmm Jordan_U i not understand that .. i'm a begginer03:51
mrabbit_osah:my router is set fine03:51
nolimitsoyamrabbit_, ports arent closed in ubuntu. they are listened to, or not03:51
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nolimitsoyaosah, im using a vanilla xfce03:51
mrabbit_i read that by default, all ports are closed until an app tries to listen on them03:52
osahis xfce hard to setup... fluxbox wasnt that hard with some tuts03:52
nolimitsoyamrabbit_, thats misleading. ubuntu doesnt incorporate a firewall03:52
Jordan_Urade0n: Most sites that claim not to support Firefox are just too lazy to test it, you can make firefox lie and tell the site that it is IE03:52
pr3d4t0rQ. I believe that my upgrade from Dapper to Edgy went well; I just rebooted the system and it came back up.  What is the way to confirm that Edgy is the current release running on the box?  How do I check if this (headless) system is coming up with Upstart instead of /sbin/init ?  Thanks in advance.03:52
nolimitsoyaosah, no, it isnt. it just works right after install03:52
rade0nand how can i do that .. can you help me with that?03:52
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Jordan_Urade0n: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/03:53
rade0nthanks03:53
apokryphos!release | pr3d4t0r03:53
ubotupr3d4t0r: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases03:53
jpjacobspr3d4t0r, you could check the package versions for ...-edgy-...03:53
apokryphospr3d4t0r: or, just cat /etc/issue03:53
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apokryphos!version03:53
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.03:53
osahnolimitsoya, is there a .deb package for xfce? and would i be able to choose between  xfce and gnome on the login screen?03:54
mrabbit_nolimitsoya:well, i know what i read, and i had this prob on suse till i opened ports in susefirewall203:54
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mrabbit_nolimitsoya:so i blame blocked ports in ubuntu03:54
pr3d4t0rAh - issue --> Ubuntu 6.1003:54
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desert88hey03:54
pr3d4t0rapokryphos: Thanks.03:54
nolimitsoyaosah, yes its in the repos, and yes, youll be able to choose03:54
osahrepos? could i get it with  apt-get install xfce03:54
nolimitsoyamrabbit_, thats not very logical at all... ive explained this to you already. ubuntu doesnt block ports03:54
pr3d4t0rjpjacobs: Where does Ubuntu/Debian keep its package information?  I'm an RH/SuSE/Mandrake refugee.03:54
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desert88Im pretty new and I need to add a repository to synaptics so I am trying to edit the /etc/apt/sourcelist but it wont let me edit it03:55
apokryphospr3d4t0r: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic03:55
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nolimitsoyaosah, 'sudo apt-get install xfce4' will install it03:55
pr3d4t0rapokryphos: OKi - thanks.03:55
apokryphosdesert88: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic03:55
mrabbit_nolimitsoya:it doesnt block the ports, they're just not open03:55
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hoelkwhen i do grub-install hd0 it says "could not find /dev/hda2 or its not a block device" or something like this03:55
cld2anyone have any idea why my unrar e filename is trying to over write a .iso file instead of joining together?03:55
hoelkany idea what i do wrong?03:55
nolimitsoyamrabbit_, thats the same thing. it doesnt block/unopen ports. just accept it03:55
nolimitsoyaosah, when its installed, log out and select xfce from the sessions menu03:56
jpjacobspr3d4t0r, try dpkg -l |less03:56
osahnolimitsoya, i seem to get E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:56
hoelk(my system doesnt boot anymore, grub exits with "error 15" before loading anything03:56
jpjacobsi think the raw info resides somewhere in /var/apt03:56
ldvxhello... is there a way to recover a password in mysql ? i forgot the root password :P03:56
nolimitsoyaosah, close any other apt instances you might have opened first, like synaptic or update-manager03:56
osahi was updating the system,, but the  updater froze i have no clue how to exit it03:56
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cld2ldvx: you can reset it with mysqladmin03:57
osahsince there is no taskmanager to kill process03:57
hoelk(i chrooted with a boot disc)03:57
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nolimitsoyaosah, yes there is :) system->administration->task manager03:57
jpjacobsosah, top03:57
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ldvxcld2, how can i reset it??03:57
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Nippoois there a DAAP client for Linux?03:58
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apokryphosNippoo: banshee has daap client+server03:59
apokryphosamarok are adding that too, not sure how far it's got03:59
nolimitsoyaNippoo, this might also be of intrest: http://daap.sourceforge.net/03:59
osahhow do i kil all processes just sign off and log back in?03:59
osahctrl+alt+backspace ?03:59
apokryphososah: what do you mean by "all processes"?04:00
hoelkno nice automatic way to install a bootmanager?04:00
nolimitsoyaosah, run the taskmanager, and select the process. then click kill04:00
seanhOkay I'm really having trouble with Samba. The MountWindowsSharesPermanently guide seems to only work if the Windows share is always available. How do I get Ubuntu to mount Windows shares temporarily when I see them?04:00
osahi did kill update-manager but the window is still running04:00
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nolimitsoya!grub | hoelk04:00
ubotuhoelk: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:00
osahit still didnt close, and i cant seem to find which process it is...04:00
apokryphoshoelk: unfortunately not. Hopefully in feisty.04:00
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rade0nJordan_U, didn't worked the extension switcher :(04:01
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Jordan_Urade0n: what site?04:01
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rade0ncan i send here url's?04:02
ToHellWithGAis there a graphical tool to do wireless networking?04:02
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Jordan_U!network-manager04:02
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager04:02
ToHellWithGAthanks Jordan_U04:02
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seanhIs there any way to mount a samba share other than in /etc/fstab ?04:02
Jordan_Urade0n: yes04:02
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rade0nhttp://www.inacap.cl/intranet_acad/alumno.php#04:03
rade0nthat url04:03
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pr3d4t0rapokryphos: OKi, read the CommonQuestions wiki - still no answer.  How do I check if the upgrade installed Upstart?  I updatedb, checked logs, etc.  There is no information about whether Upstart automagically replaces /sbin/init - still digging logs, though.04:03
rade0ni put my user and pass and don't do anything ...04:03
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apokryphospr3d4t0r: if it's installed, it should be in use.04:04
Alakazamz0rwhats the best place to put precompiled programs in ubuntu04:04
Alakazamz0rlike the last.fm client04:04
Alakazamz0ror mozilla thunderbird04:04
apokryphospr3d4t0r: the FAQ of course deals with questions about package management....04:04
Alakazamz0r/usr/local/share?04:04
diskusprobably /usr/local/bin04:04
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Alakazamz0rwell, its not just a binary though diskus04:04
Alakazamz0rits all kindsa stuff.04:04
diskusthen /usr/local?04:05
apokryphosAlakazamz0r: thunderbird is available in the repositories04:05
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diskusbut I prefer /opt04:05
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apokryphosAlakazamz0r: do you really mean "precompiled" or do you mean "manually compiled"?04:05
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Seamus7Hi.... after I tried updating my graphics card driver, my system freezes at the login screen .... how do I switch back to the standard ubuntu video driver in recovery mode or using my Linux Rescue CD?04:05
Alakazamz0rgood call diskus04:05
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Alakazamz0rthanks!04:05
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lasseSeamus, recovery mode04:05
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diskusI had nice script long time ago, it just symlinked all the progs from /opt to /usr/local04:06
Seamus7lasse: do you know the commad to switch back?04:06
Jordan_USeamus7: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh04:06
pr3d4t0rapokryphos: http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=11642 - it looks like it's installed but I can't see it running.  I see init.  I found /usr/lib/upstart and others on the disk, though.04:06
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Seamus7Jordan_U: thanks .... what's the  -phigh for?04:07
lasseSeamus, what kind of video card have you got and what drivers are you now using / did you use before?04:07
thcrw8383dose anyone know how to change the icons in the notification-area in Gnome?04:07
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rade0nJordan_U, did you see it?04:07
Jordan_USeamus7: Tells it to only ask hight priority questions04:07
Seamus7lasse: I have a Radeon Mobile X1300 .... I had the ATI propietary drivers installed successfully but was updating them to the newest version ... I'm on Edgy04:08
pr3d4t0rapokryphos: Is there some unequivocal way of checking?04:08
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Zodia1im so toast XD04:08
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Zodia1i tryed to fix the problem, and now my windows dont work!04:08
apokryphospr3d4t0r: I'm really not sure about the way upstart works. This may help:04:08
lasseSeamus7, then you can also edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set it from fglrx to ati...04:09
apokryphosubotu: upstart04:09
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/04:09
Zodia1so im on live cd <.<04:09
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Seamus7lasse: thanks I'll look into that ...04:09
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Zodia1nolimitsoya, should i just install ubuntu over Windows since windows dont work? Is it possible to get access to my windows HDD via Ubuntu live cD?04:10
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desert88hey Im trying to install banshee audio player and am having some trouble is there anyone who would be willing to help in private chat?04:10
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pr3d4t0rapokryphos: OKi, reading that -- thanks!04:10
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AieronPetershi.. can someone help me install ipmi onto a Dell 1425sc rack server? Running Edgy server...04:11
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pipHello04:11
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desert88so can anyone help me install banshee in private chat?04:11
Zodia1should i just install ubuntu over Windows since windows dont work? Is it possible to get access to my windows HDD via Ubuntu live cD?04:11
apokryphosdesert88: what's hard about reading the FAQ?04:11
desert88i did04:11
desert88and I understood04:11
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desert88it just fine04:11
apokryphosdesert88: it tells you *exactly* how to install packages04:11
pipwho use skype ?04:11
Nippoome.04:12
pipI got a problem with it04:12
pipNippoo, Hi04:12
desert88ok I know how to install packages04:12
javaJakeOn Xubuntu, what do I run to get my laptop to attempt a PPP connection to this computer?04:12
Nippoohey pip.04:12
javaJakeI've got PPPD running on this laptop04:12
desert88the problem is Im trying to append the sourcelist which i am able to do to install a new repository04:12
pipNippoo, I bought a new mic this afternoon but others can not hear my voice04:12
desert88but i get an error04:12
desert88in the terminal04:12
pipNippoo, I think the settings must be wrong04:12
desert88after running apt-get dist-upgrade04:12
apokryphosdesert88: and of course the question we're waiting for is "what error?"04:12
Nippoopip: phone "echo123"04:12
Nippoo(it's a test)04:13
apokryphosdesert88: why are you running dist-upgrade?04:13
Nippootell me what you get04:13
pipNippoo,so I want to know the correct settings with mic in skype04:13
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javaJakeCan anyone help?04:13
desert88well the repository which includes banshee isn't on synaptics04:13
Nippoopip: what, on ubuntu?04:13
desert88so I went to the banshee website04:13
apokryphos!info banshee04:13
ubotubanshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1460 kB, installed size 4388 kB04:13
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apokryphosdesert88: it's in Universe. The faq tells you how to add that repository04:13
desert88Universe?04:13
javaJake!ppp04:13
ubotuppp: Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.4rel-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 320 kB, installed size 1016 kB04:13
pipNippoo, No04:13
desert88sorry Im pretty new04:13
javaJakeRats04:14
apokryphosdesert88: look at the entry in the FAQ telling you how to add repositories04:14
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desert88ok04:14
desert88thnx04:14
b08y!gwget04:14
ubotugwget: GNOME front-end for wget. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 211 kB, installed size 1224 kB04:14
pipNippoo, fedora04:14
Alakazamz0rpwn4g304:14
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b08y!audacious04:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audacious - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:14
BertjenHello all, I was woundering, is there an install CD for my cpu architecture (Intel Core 2 Duo)? like Suse has (x86_64)04:14
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b08yBertjen: yeah should be04:15
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apokryphosBertjen: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic04:15
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DarrenHello?04:16
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Infelizhi?04:16
Bertjenapokryphos, if I looked correct my question isn't answerred in that document04:16
BertjenI know I can take i386, that would be no problem04:16
DarrenUmmm anybody have trouble with the DWL-G520 card?04:16
apokryphosBertjen: the document tells you that there's a 64bit install, so perhaps you didn't04:16
Bertjenreally?04:17
apokryphosyes04:17
BertjenI only see a 64bit install for amd :(04:17
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apokryphosnope, your processor is supported as well04:17
b08yBertjen: thats the same :)04:17
BertjenI didn't know that! :p04:17
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apokryphosthey're not the same, but it's 64-bit as well04:18
sadfI have a problem... Dapper Drake on amd64... the icons I use to launch programs mostly fail now, especially admin stuff.  I get no error message, it simply fails to launch.04:18
DarrenI cannot connect to my network.04:18
b08ybtw, read that part from faq, cause there is some info, like ucant use wine,ect. on 64Bit04:18
DarrenFlash, w32 codecs, and WINE04:18
sadfI'd happily trade this 64bit for a 32bit if it was mine.04:18
BertjenI just saw, didn't knew that either :(04:18
Bertjenand that really sucks :p04:19
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apokryphossadf: why?04:19
Ace2016hi all04:19
b08ysadf: what happens if u start that apps from terminal?04:19
Ace2016Is there a software raid guide for ubuntu?04:19
apokryphossadf: I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it's a 64-bit install04:19
Ace2016will a software raid increase startup time?04:19
apokryphosUboon2: raid04:19
apokryphosubotu: raid04:19
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:19
Ace2016i mean will it make the system get to the desktop faster04:19
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osahhelp :(04:20
b08yAce2016: good question ;)04:20
thcrw8383how do you change the icons in the notification area?04:20
apokryphos!msg | sadf04:20
ubotusadf: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.04:20
b08ythcrw8383: hmm, special app?04:20
osahwho helped me earlier04:21
osah? i just lost the nickname04:21
DarrenSo can anybody tell me why my DWL-G520 isn't functioning properly in ubuntu?04:21
TheGateKeeperAce2016: not got personal experience but I would have thought all RAID will do is give you resliance when thinks go wrong04:21
b08ythcrw8383: i think there is no general answer cause, its the question of that map, used to be in the notification area04:21
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Ace2016TheGateKeeper: wouldn't the system be able to access info faster since there are two disks?04:22
TheGateKeeperAce2016: if you want speed look at arch linux of a source based linux like gentoo or sourcemage04:22
b08yDarren: edgy?04:22
DarrenYup04:22
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karimthere is still no known way to use ATI mpeg2 decompressor ?04:22
Ace2016tried gentoo, didn't feel that much faster04:22
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osahcan someone help me, i tried to update packages using ubuntu-update.. it got stuck so i just rebooted the pc.. now when i try to run ubuntu it wont start i get a blue screen saying  xorg.conf somethiong.. it doesnt detect i guess mouse,keyboard nothing :(04:22
DarrenI tried ndiswrapper, that didn't work out.04:22
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osahany suggestions :/ and when i go to windows (dualk boot) the windows freezes04:22
osahi also added a fat32 partition to ubuntu before that using  mount...04:23
sadfsorry for the direct mesgs, not used to this client, I thought I was responding to msgs04:23
osahand added it to fstab04:23
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lasseosah, the error in ubuntu has nothing to do with windows04:23
lasseosah, what kind of video card have you got? ati nvidia or intel?04:23
TheGateKeeperAce2016: ubuntu is slow because it's not optimsed for i686 processors & alike04:23
christianeHello. I installed 6.10 on /dev/sda6. Now I repartitioned, created a new /dev/sda6 while my old /dev/sda6 is now /dev/sda7, copied all files from new 7 to new 6 and booted grub (which loaded new 6 as /). Now ubuntu is running, / is the new 6 (I can see the new size of /), but it's called /dev/sda7. WTF happened here?04:23
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osahlasse nvidia.. i see the nvidia screen then the screen turns black... then i see nvidia again.. turns black.. then blue screen comes.04:24
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osahsaying x cannot start...04:24
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osahit worked fine before i did the update packages :/04:24
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b08ysay osah, login via ctrl-alt-f104:24
DarrenI tried connecting to my dlink router, but still no internet.04:24
osahb08y if i try that i get  bash premission denied like 100 times :/04:24
lasseosah, im sorry, i know nothing about nvidia. but you can always edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf so it uses the vesa driver04:24
Ace2016TheGateKeeper: but the time an app takes to start depends mostly on disk throughput right?04:24
osahsomething broke ubuntu :/04:24
b08yosah: u cant login?04:25
slickyare the gigabyte superG wifi card supported by linux?04:25
osahalt+ctrl+F1 when the ubuntu loading screen comes?04:25
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TheGateKeeperAce2016: nope that is only part of the equation04:25
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osahill brb let me go try04:25
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b08yosah: after u got "blue screen"04:25
osahpc in basement04:25
b08yw804:25
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osahok04:25
b08yafter u logt in04:26
Lobo__hi04:26
BlargEatBlargosah: with pretty much every Linux distribution now, I've got to go into text mode and manually install the proprietary nVidia driver to have X not crash now, sadly04:26
b08y"sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:26
BlargEatBlargI have a 7800GT, so it shouldn't be all that exotic04:26
TheGateKeeperAce2016: if you want speed then try arch linux04:26
osahk:)04:26
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Mizipzor!vnc04:26
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX04:26
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Mizipzor!freenx04:27
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX04:27
b08y!hardware04:27
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport04:27
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DarrenDWL-G520 anyone?04:27
Uboon2!coffee04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about coffee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
DarrenI don't know what's wrong.04:27
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b08y^^ @slicky04:28
Lobo__anyone know if i can make a script that simulates a key press ? example : a script that simulates CTRL_ALT_RIGHT to change the desktop ... ?04:28
psy_unixwhere you come from danilo ???04:28
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b08yLobo__: from key to script or script to key?04:28
Lobo__script to key04:28
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b08yhmm, that way i dont know04:29
Ace2016TheGateKeeper: I don't want to compile stuff anymore, the time i spend compiling stuff is better spent just putting up with the slowness04:29
b08ybut there should be something like that04:29
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sadfSo if click an icon and it says "application starting" but then vanishes and the application never starts and an error message never appears, where would I start troubleshooting?  Just a hint, a clue, anything :)04:29
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Lobo__i'll try a forum ... thx anyway04:29
slickyb08y: w00t?04:29
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b08yslicky:04:30
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b08y!hardware04:30
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport04:30
b08y^^04:30
TheGateKeeperAce2016: arch linux is a binarry distribution, but you do have to construct it from the base system04:30
slickyb08y: thanks =)04:30
n2diysadf, look in your log files, /var/log04:30
Uboon2!wipe04:30
ubotuwipe: Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.20-2 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB04:30
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christianeHello. I installed 6.10 on /dev/sda6. Now I repartitioned, created a new /dev/sda6 while my old /dev/sda6 is now /dev/sda7, copied all files from new 7 to new 6 and booted grub (which loaded new 6 as /). Now ubuntu is running, / is the new 6 (I can see the new size of /), but it's called /dev/sda7. WTF happened here? There's no sda7 entry in syslog or dmesg.04:31
osahb08y: before that i even used command  cp to backup the xorg file to fat32,, hope it didnt erase it04:31
osahbut when trying to reconfigure i get04:31
osahXIO: Fatal Error Connection reset by peer (0:0.0)04:32
sadfn2diy, yeah I couldn't find anything going through them a first time, but maybe a few more reads would be worth the while... the few logs I'm familiar with like /var/log/messages didn't have anything ... and I did a tail -f on a few while trying to start it.04:32
ravermeisterhello i've got a question, i use knetworkmanager, to make a connection to my wlan wpa secured network04:32
Uboon2!wtf04:32
b08yosah: well first of all u should look, at /var/log/xorg04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:32
ravermeisterbut everytime i restart my computer04:32
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ravermeisteri have to put the password in again04:33
TheGateKeeperAce2016: there are howto's on the forums to speed up ubuntu too04:33
Red-SoxAnyone here use Evolution Mail?04:33
ravermeisterand i get an error message from kdewallet04:33
n2diysadf, I don't know what else to suggest.04:33
b08yRed-Sox: jeah, me04:33
ravermeistercan anybody tell me what i can do to fix this??04:33
Red-Soxb08y: How do I get it to show pics?04:33
sadfn2diy, thanks man.  Yeah I knew I should have spent time getting familiar with what logs are written to, and for what reasons.04:34
b08yRed-Sox: show-pics in e-mail in html format?04:34
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Ace2016TheGateKeeper: Tried them04:34
Red-Soxb08y: Yulp04:34
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Red-Soxb08y: Oh got it04:35
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TrioTorusHow can i easily test whether port #### is accesable on my lan?04:35
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curuxzHello all :)04:35
ravermeisternobody a solution for me?04:35
b08yravermeister: what propblem?04:36
b08y-q04:36
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ravermeisteri use knetworkmanager to make a connection to my wpa secured wlan network04:36
curuxzgot a bit of a pickle with my pc :( cant seem to get my main ubuntu box to map a windows printer. anyone think they can help me please?04:36
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ravermeisterbut everytime i restart my computer04:36
sadfFound a log entry... and I was REALLY hoping it wasn't this... "unable to lookup  closetbox via gethostbyname()"04:36
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ravermeisteri have to put in the password again and i get an error message from kdewallet04:37
sadfThat's what I get when I try to gksudo also04:37
b08yravermeister: hmm, dont know, i dont use kde04:37
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ravermeisteroh sad but thanks anywhere04:37
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curuxzravemeister try the kubuntu room :)04:37
wy2000y is it difficut installing oracle db on ubuntu?04:38
curuxzits one door over ;) they will be more help with kde issues :)04:38
ravermeisterthx04:38
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curuxzanyone able to help with this samba problem04:38
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curuxzi can scan my windows pc outside the add printer window just not inside :S04:38
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DarrenDWL-G520 support anyone?04:39
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pr3d4t0rapokryphos: Hej.  Thanks for your help.  It looks like, when upgrading, all Upstart does is create a number of wrappers for rc*.d within it.  I'm still validating whether the system starts with init or Upstart to be 100% sure.  So far, though, every indication is that it does.  If someone wants to check that, have them look at whether /lib/upstart exist and /etc/event.d has the runlevel wrappers.04:40
osahHi my X woont start i keep getting   XIO: Fatal IO Error 104 (connection reset by peer) "0:0.0"04:41
Red-Sox-PROBLEMS- http://pastebin.ca/28116704:41
osahIf i remove xorg.conf i starts fine but my monitor resolution etc.. is messy very04:41
osah:/04:41
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osahi dont think its nvidia because i tried  verge too04:42
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jribRed-Sox: -SUGGESTION- pastebin your sources.list04:43
Red-Soxjrib: aight04:43
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Red-Soxjrib: http://pastebin.ca/28116904:44
BalachmarHow do I get suspend2RAM working>04:44
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jribRed-Sox: are you using dapper or edgy?04:45
Red-Soxjrib: eft04:45
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Red-Soxjrib: edgy*04:45
jribRed-Sox: are you aware that your sources.list is a mess of dapper and edgy?04:45
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KaiHanariwhats a good command line tool for quick and easy static IP setup?04:45
Red-Soxjrib: Nope...04:46
Red-Sox!sources04:46
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource04:46
Red-Sox!Easysource04:46
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".04:46
Red-SoxHumph04:46
Red-Soxjrib: Do you use Edgy?04:46
jribRed-Sox: yes04:46
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osahIf i remove xorg.conf i starts fine but my monitor resolution etc.. is messy very04:46
osahXIO: Fatal Error Connection reset by peer (0:0.0)04:46
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Red-Soxjrib: Can I have YOUR sources.list?04:46
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christianeMaybe I found it. There's a UUID entry in /etc/fstab instead of /dev/...   Whose UUID is this? The partition's or the fs's?04:46
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KaiHanariwhats a good command line tool for quick and easy static IP setup?04:47
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jribRed-Sox: mine is a mess too, just use source-o-matic04:47
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hexidigital_can anyone provide info on how to remove the pixelated border from konsole? i want to have a transparent terminal for TOP & other admin tools04:47
Red-Soxjrib: It says it doesn't work well for edgy04:47
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ubuntucubeyler aranzada trk yok mu yaw04:47
kitsuneofdoomwhen I use flash in mozilla, firefox starts eating up more and more memory04:47
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kitsuneofdoom*mozilla firefox04:48
jribRed-Sox: ok, one second04:48
cem_91yaw hi trk yok mu04:48
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rpiercyosah do you happen to have a Radeon video card?04:49
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rpiercysorry if you already answered that04:49
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jribRed-Sox: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37380/04:50
Uboon2cem: ?04:50
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Red-Soxjrib: thanks04:51
cem_91zelden mesaj atmyoda04:51
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ValMarko! subversion04:51
ubotusubversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion04:51
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Uboon2cem: ismini register edecen04:52
cem_91nerden edecegim04:52
apokryphosEnglish only in here, please.04:52
Uboon2ok, np04:52
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wimsthere's a tool that lets me reconfigure my mouse button, anybody knows what it's named ? and also the name of the tool that lists what buttons i press on my mouse04:53
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Uboon2cem: #yardim04:53
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seanhThanks to everyone who helped me with Samba earlier. I got it working (close enough). What a mess! I hate samba.04:54
ldvxhello... how can i completly remove mysql+apache+php and all configurations files so i can start making a clean install again??04:54
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jribnothlit: google for  "unable to open files list file for package"  I'm doing the same04:54
cem_91#yardim04:54
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nothlitjrib, ahh kk ty04:55
osahXIO: Fatal Error Connection reset by peer (0:0.0) is what i get when trying to boot ubuntu :( before that i tried installing a uipdate but there was some error with fonts.. so i rebooted. now i cant get back in??? :( font server broken or what? how do i check04:55
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rpiercyhi osah, sorry if you have already answered this, but do you have an ATI card?04:56
manmadhaIt is possible to do multiple linux operating systems?04:56
manmadhaI want suse as second os04:56
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Peloanyone know of an open office channel ?04:57
osahi got nvidia, i tried using verge driver same error if i remove the xorg.conf it seems to work but the resolution etc.. is messedup04:57
osahit worked fine before i rebooted :/04:57
seanhHmm.. Command to set sound levels? alsaconf or something?04:58
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Peloseanh,  alsamixer04:58
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seanhPelo - thanks04:59
rpiercyosah: also check to see if your font server is running: /etc/init.d/xfs status04:59
LeetlandonHey.04:59
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LeetlandonHello?04:59
Uboon2!kiba-dock04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
Pelohello Leetlandon04:59
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manmadhait is possible to do mul linux operating systems..?If so what is the swap partition ...?05:00
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yarihmhi everyone05:00
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LeetlandonHey yarihm.05:00
yarihmi'm running into problems with ipv6 and apt-get05:00
yarihmi tried adding ipv6 to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, that works for one apt-get after boot05:00
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Peloyarihm,   look up ipv6 in for forum for how to diable it05:00
osahrpiercy that returns  nothing,  xfs is not even there neither is init.d05:00
[BTF] Chm0dUboon2: what do you need to know about kiba-dock?05:00
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yarihmthen it seems to resolve to ipv6-addresses for which i have no support within my network05:01
LeetlandonCan someone help me installing Ubuntu 6.10?05:01
Uboon2some one asked in beryl channel05:01
osahumm i tried to do some font update and the font directories dont even exist anymore :(05:01
Uboon2:)05:01
osahhow do i bring em back05:01
manmadhaLeetlandon, what type of help?05:01
[BTF] Chm0dO05:01
PeloLeetlandon,  just pop the cd in and boot05:01
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mrabbiti just want to ask a question, does ubuntu really have all ports blocked by default05:01
[BTF] Chm0dso it isn't you that needs to know?05:01
Varangerhello05:01
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osahapt-get install xfs  = returns that the host  debian.fi.... canot be found05:01
[BTF] Chm0di just downloaded it today05:01
Uboon2i try to help out05:01
[BTF] Chm0d;)05:01
Ownerhello05:01
Uboon2:)05:01
LeetlandonWell, okay i just burnt it last night, and i run it using acpi=off, because i run into problems without.. right?05:01
Owneri just wondered05:01
Varangerhow can I install codecs for watching xvid file to gstreamer???05:02
MetaMorfoziSis there a way to speed up inkscape? it's painly slow:(05:02
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VarangerI meant which codec is needed (sudo apt-get install .....)05:02
drkmwhat do I need to put into my xorg.conf to get my resolution at 1600x1200 at refresh rate 50? because what I'm doing isn't working..05:02
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rpiercyosah sorry, they are built in now, let me think for a second - I had this problem too05:02
LeetlandonBut when i do that i shows the Ubuntu splash screen with the orange bar.. But once it gets passed that it goes into like a ticker.05:02
LeetlandonLike 30 times a second something comes up.05:03
mrabbithello, i read that ubuntu has all ports blocked by default, and i think if that is true it is the cause of my prob05:03
Owneri have ubuntu and havent got an internet connection on that pc at the minute, is there a way i can download Wine on this pc and transfer it to my other pc via disc or something?05:03
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seanhI got a laptop here that is very quiet -- even with all the volumes turned right up, it is much quieter than it should be. I tried alsamixer, but everything it turned up. Any ideas?05:03
PeloLeetlandon,  that is normal05:03
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LeetlandonAlright, I ran it all night, it got to like 20000 and still nothing?05:03
PeloLeetlandon,  ok now that isn't normal05:03
LeetlandonYeah.05:04
PeloLeetlandon,  try making a new cd  and yours might be borked05:04
Owneri have ubuntu and havent got an internet connection on that pc at the minute, is there a way i can download Wine on this pc and transfer it to my other pc via disc or something?05:04
osahrpiercy: i downloaded some updates using apt-get and it got stuck updating some  libc.. file it said something "font ... error.." so i rebooted and thats what happened.05:04
LeetlandonHmm, alright.05:04
[BTF] Chm0dUboon2: here is a link to the kiba i d/led today05:04
Uboon2cool05:04
Uboon2tnx man05:05
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PeloOwner,  www.winehq.org,  goto the dl section,  the ubuntu section,  scroll down to the bottom for the archive page and download the .deb file05:05
[BTF] Chm0dhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=185685305:05
[BTF] Chm0dits in .deb package so its easy :)05:05
[BTF] Chm0dso far works fine fo rme05:05
VarangerHow can I play xvid files with gstreamer???05:05
Ownersorry im new, .deb package?05:05
pulltabMicrosoft Windows XP Professional Corporate SP2 Integrated November 2006 MULTI IMAGE-ETH0 [h33t PC CD IMAGE] 05:05
Uboon2tnx again05:05
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[BTF] Chm0dnp05:05
[BTF] Chm0dOwner: if you d/l a .deb package all ya have to do is click install05:06
rpiercyosah - sorry to put you on the wrong track - I forgot the font server was a thing of the past05:06
seanhOkay so I'm about to use GParted to shrink an NTFS partition on an external USB drive. Does the USB mean it's more likely to fail?05:06
[BTF] Chm0dinstead of configuring05:06
PeloOwner,  .deb packages are the install files for debian and debian fork distros05:06
Ownerso do i just write the .deb file to a disc and put it into my ubuntu pc to install05:06
PeloOwner,  yeah05:06
Ownerok thanks a lot guys05:07
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Owner(or gals)05:07
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VarangerHello... How can I play xvid files with gstreamer???05:07
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rpiercyosah - in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, what is listed as "driver" in the "Device" section matching your verge card05:08
jrib!multimedia | Varanger05:08
ubotuVaranger: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications05:08
jpjacobs!restricted >Varanger05:08
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mrabbithey, who else has slow torrents when they arent running a firewall, there router is set fine, and its not just a slow torrent?05:09
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seanhAny officially safe way to write to NTFS in Ubuntu?05:10
wsoderberganyone know if ubuntu 6.10 uses the newest 2.6 kernel out there?05:10
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jpjacobsmrabbit, i think that has something to do with being behind a NATted router05:10
Nippoolater, y'all.05:10
ozonecoFatal error: Call to undefined function pg_connect() in /var/www/default/admin/functions.php on line 15305:10
matsNippoo: enjoy ;D05:11
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ozonecomean anything?05:11
osahhey how can i run apt-get etc.. in konsole (my startx is broken) if my internet is not working... how do i make the internet work in console05:11
osahso i can fix stuff by getting updates :/05:11
wsoderberg anyone know if ubuntu 6.10 uses the newest 2.6 kernel out there?05:11
mrabbitjpjacobs:my ip on my router is set as a dmz05:11
nolimitsoyaosah, that depends on why your internet connection broke ;)05:11
osahnolimitsoya, well its working fine just not in console05:11
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QwertyMwsoderberg, mine is using 2.6.17-10-i38605:12
osahit never worked in console.. i broke my startx :(05:12
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osahi did an update it broke /fonts/05:12
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osahnow the window manager gives me errors :(05:12
jpjacobsmrabbit, dmz?05:12
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nolimitsoyajpjacobs, demilitarized zone05:12
osahand i need to run  apt-get install xfs  i think but how can i when the internet doesnt weork in console05:12
wsoderberg anyone know if ubuntu 6.10 uses the newest 2.6 kernel out there?05:12
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matsosah: try a 'apt-get -f install'05:12
mrabbitjpcacobs:so it doesnt need port forwarding, althought i have it set anyway05:12
QwertyMwsoderberg, mine is using 2.6.17-10-i386, isnt that one of the latest ?05:12
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nolimitsoyawsoderberg, it doesnt. it backports all security updates though05:12
julljollespaol?05:12
matses?05:13
nolimitsoya!es | julljoll05:13
ubotujulljoll: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:13
osahi try pinging google.com it says host unknown..05:13
ozoneco$dbconnect = "user=$dbuser password=$dbpass host=$dbhost port=$dbport dbname=$dbname";05:13
ozoneco  $connection = pg_connect($dbconnect) or die("Can't connect to db.");05:13
osahhow can i start my ethernet card in console? anyone05:13
jpjacobsmrabbit, hmmm then i don't know05:13
osahnet start eth0  ??05:13
aliendream23hello, is there a program that will help me to securely delete files, in the way windows washer does for windows?05:13
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matsosah: /sbin/ifup eth005:13
wsoderbergQwertyM, ill check :)05:13
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jpjacobsosah, ifup eth0 (providing the right entry is set in /etc/networking/interfaces)05:13
mrabbitim gonna reboot, i just changed the iptables rules to try and fix it05:13
nolimitsoyaaliendream23, check out shred05:13
matsif its there, do a lsmod and see what you can fint05:13
rpiercyosah: ifup eth005:14
aliendream23thanks05:14
matsdemsg is allso a nice way05:14
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rpiercygotta go run some errands, good luck osah, I will check back in a few05:16
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edylieanyone run NBD on his ubuntu?05:17
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ValMarkois it safe to activate svn?05:17
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ubotuedylie: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:17
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ValMarko! compiz05:18
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:18
Ace2016Hi again all05:18
edischcan i speak german?05:18
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nolimitsoya!msgthebot | ValMarko05:19
ubotuValMarko: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)05:19
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Ace2016 // If i setup a raid with 2 xfs partitions which are 50gb in size on hda and hdb, will xfs_fsr work like it does now with a single partition?05:20
michaelkohhi, how do i change my refresh rate?05:20
manmadhahee i have some stupid question ..... But i have to ask.......How to check the port number of an ip..?I mean how to check the opened port numbers of an ip?05:20
manmadhais it possible?05:20
nolimitsoyaAce2016, yes. filesystems and partitions are diffrent beasts05:20
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michaelkoh!refresh05:20
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about refresh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
michaelkoh!refreshrate05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about refreshrate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
nolimitsoyamanmadha, im not sure what you want to do. ip numbers and port numbers are dirrent things all together05:21
nolimitsoya!msgthe bot | michaelkoh05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msgthe bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:21
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skmidry__manmadha try "netstat -a"05:21
Ace2016nolimitsoya: do you know where i can find a how to for setting up a software raid in ubuntu?05:21
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nolimitsoya!lvm | Ace201605:21
ubotuAce2016: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO05:21
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manmadhaskmidry__, yaa i know this ....I think it is used to know the live ip addresses05:22
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wildchildhow can I load subtitles ( .sub .idx) with kaffeine05:22
Ace2016nolimitsoya: is lvm software raid?05:22
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skmidry__manmadha - what else do you want?05:22
manmadhaskmidry__, i want the port numbers of an ip05:22
manmadhait is possible05:22
manmadha>05:22
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nolimitsoyaAce2016, yes and no. read the links; especialy the linux docu project one05:22
nolimitsoyamanmadha, there is no such thing.05:23
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skmidry__manmadha - do you need to know open ports on an ip?05:23
skmidry__then that is possible05:23
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manmadhaskmidry__, By default the ip numbers are blocked by our ISP05:23
nolimitsoyamanmadha, ip:s dont have open ports. a computer has an ip, and a computer has many ports.05:23
manmadhaBut...05:23
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manmadhanolimitsoya, yaa u r correct...It is possible in two cases05:23
osahi try to do "ifup eth0" in console it just returns  device not found :(05:24
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nolimitsoyamanmadha, you are not making the least bit of sence. explain yourself, clearly05:24
michaelkohhi, how do i change my refresh rate?05:24
manmadhamanmadha, By default the ports are blocked by our ISP05:24
jpjacobsosah don't forget hte sudo05:24
osahhow do i list my devices05:24
osahmaybe its eth105:24
jpjacobsosah : lshw05:24
osahor eth205:24
nolimitsoyamanmadha, what ports, and what do you want to do?05:24
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TheGateKeepermichaelkoh: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:25
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manmadhanolimitsoya, i want the port numbers through which the data is transfering ....05:25
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jpjacobsmanmadha, netstat -aplA inet05:26
nolimitsoyamanmadha, that entierly diffrent :) try netstat05:26
michaelkohTheGateKeeper: still trying... brb05:26
ADDcan someone help me with logitech quickcam orbit?  i did an install and now when i click on camerama webcam viewier, i get "Cound not connect to video device (/dev/video0).  Please check connection."  I'm using Ubuntu dapper 6.10.  Please help, I'm a newbie05:26
manmadhaohh thanku .uuuuuuuuuuu05:26
binithmm, i tried to install some networking tools, but nmap, wireshark, kismet, socat just are not there05:26
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LeetlandonHey.05:26
slackermanmadha: in /etc/services you can find which ports are used by which application/protocol05:26
biniti enabled uni and multiverse05:26
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LeetlandonSo, if the hashes for the downloads dont match i gotta redownload?05:27
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nolimitsoyaLeetlandon, yes05:27
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jpjacobsADD, after unplugging and replugging the cam, look in the output of dmesg|tail for things like /dev/...05:27
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MetaMorfoziSis there a way to speed up inkscape? it's painly slow:(05:27
FirstStrikehow would i mount my usb mp3 player so i can write files to it?05:28
OlatheHow do I do something in /etc/rc.local so that, if it fails, the instructions under it still execute ?05:28
LeetlandonOops.05:28
LeetlandonAm i right?05:28
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nolimitsoyaLeetlandon, yes05:28
LeetlandonAlright.05:28
slackerFirstStrike: what kind of mp3 player?05:28
ADDok, jp.  i'll try that05:28
LeetlandonYippy!!!05:28
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FirstStrikeRCA H125A05:28
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slackerFirstStrike: you have either mtp like mp3 players or mp3 players which you can mount like a scsi device05:29
nolimitsoyaLeetlandon, you can try a download manager or bittorrent if your downloads seem to fail often05:29
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FirstStrikeoo..i selected 'music' on the device and it mounted..05:29
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manmadhaslacker, i have no such a file /etc/services  :(05:30
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slackermanmadha: that's weird, all unix branches have that file05:30
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ADDjp, i must say, that when I used easycam 2 to install, it would come up with an error during install, but it would continue.  when i used a viewer it was coming up, but with a grey screen.  now i'm getting the "Could not connect video device error..."05:30
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manmadhaslacker, sri@sri-desktop:~$ cd /etc/s05:30
manmadhasamba/      scim/       sgml/       sound/      ssl/05:30
manmadhasane.d/     security/   skel/       ssh/        subversion/05:30
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nolimitsoya!paste | manmadha05:31
ubotumanmadha: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:31
slackermanmadha: ls -l /etc/ | grep service05:31
enkidueach time I want to log in gdm now, it always comes back to the gdm login screen, is it a know problem, is there a way to solve it ?05:31
manmadhanolimitsoya, thank u  i  know ....05:31
nolimitsoyamanmadha, then use it ;)05:31
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QwertyMenkidu, must be some startup script, try safe gnome session ?05:31
nolimitsoyaenkidu, did you happen to fill up your harddrive?05:31
jpjacobsADD, just do the unplugging replugging thing, and look at the output when you type "dmesg|tail" in a console afterwards05:31
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slackermanmadha: /etc/services is a file, not a directory05:32
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manmadhaslacker, ya a got it ....1m05:32
enkidunolimitsoya: perhaps, actually it's on my mother's computer05:32
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wildchilddoes anyone know how can I run .sub and .idy with kaffeine or kmplayer?05:33
enkiduQwertyM: safe gnome session ?05:33
wildchildidx*05:33
nolimitsoyaenkidu, boot in recovery mode and delete som unused files from the terminal05:33
slackermanmadha: that's an overview of services and ports, it will not tell you which services you run, you need to netstat -an for that05:33
enkidunolimitsoya: but the problem to help her is that I'm not in the same country as her05:33
nolimitsoyaenkidu, or press ctrl+alt+f2 and log in05:33
nolimitsoyaenkidu, then youll have to guide her :)05:33
manmadhaohhh05:34
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enkidunolimitsoya: she's a novice05:34
rainmakers99for ubuntu does anyone know the name of the package to install for the kernel source  I have version 2.6.15-27-38605:34
QwertyMenkidu, in sessions selection menu at GDM, it has a safe gnome session which loads w/o startup scripts, in case somethings playing mischief05:34
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nolimitsoyaenkidu, just tell her to press ctrl+alt+f2 and log in, and then type "sudo apt-get clean"05:34
slackerrainmakers99: I assume you want the kernelheaders?05:34
rainmakers99yes.05:34
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rainmakers99for driver programmin05:34
nolimitsoyaenkidu, that should free up some space in /, and solve thing provided /home is not a separate partition. its also pretty harmless05:35
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slackerrainmakers99: apt-cache search kernel | grep 2.6.15-27-386 will probably give you the correct pacakge05:35
nolimitsoyaenkidu, harmless meaning its very har to misstype things in a way that realy causes any big problems...05:35
nolimitsoya*hard05:35
ADDJP, this is what I'm getting when ran the "dmesg | tail"  [17315098.848000]  usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 205:35
ADD[17315105.284000]  usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 305:35
ADD[17315106.116000]  usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice05:35
ADD[17315106.256000]  pwc Philips webcam module version 9.0.2-unofficial loaded.05:35
ADD[17315106.256000]  pwc Supports Philips PCA645/646, PCVC675/680/690, PCVC720[40] /730/740/750 & PCVC830/840.05:35
ADD[17315106.256000]  pwc Also supports the Askey VC010, various Logitech Quickcams, Samsung MPC-C10 and MPC-C30,05:35
ADD[17315106.256000]  pwc the Creative WebCam 5 & Pro Ex, SOTEC Afina Eye and Visionite VCS-UC300 and VCS-UM100.05:35
ADD[17315106.540000]  pwc Logitech QuickCam Orbit/Sphere USB webcam detected.05:36
nolimitsoya!pastebin |  ADD05:36
ubotuADD: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:36
ADD[17315106.540000]  pwc Registered as /dev/video0.05:36
rambo3smart05:36
ADD[17315106.540000]  usbcore: registered new driver Philips webcam05:36
nolimitsoyaADD, stop it!05:36
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ADDSorry dude.  I didn't know.  i'm a newbie05:36
rambo3ADD paste kernel source too05:36
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jpjacobslol05:36
ADDlol05:36
nolimitsoyaADD, now you know. never flood an irc channel. youll get yourself banned05:36
gigawasn't really flooding?05:37
ADDis that actually a flood?05:37
nolimitsoyayes05:37
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gigalike 8 lines05:37
ADDwow05:37
rambo3yeah05:37
ADDoh ok05:37
gigano biggie05:37
jpjacobsAdd well that tell's you the module get's loaded and the device is recognized as /dev/video0. so it should work, and if it doesn't it's most probably the client you're trying to connect with that's badly configured05:37
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slackergiga: irsii warns you as soon as you paste more then 3 lines or something05:37
mrabbithello, how can i check what network card i have inside my laptop, is there a command?05:37
jpjacobsmrabbit, try lshw05:38
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rainmakers99slacker: Thanks much for your help05:38
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ADDJp....I just brought it back up and it shows a grey screen05:38
slackerrainmakers99: yw05:38
green_earzmrabbit: lspci -v | grep Ethernet05:39
gigamy beryl installation keeps crashing, it has built-in via graphics chip, fairly new. Would a nvidia gfx card help?05:39
rambo3giga, what oart of beta software and #ubuntu.xgl is that05:39
mrabbitgreen_earz:thanks, it worked05:40
mrabbitjpjacobs:thanks for trying05:40
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jpjacobshmmm maybe some arguments you have to provide to the module? i had something similar with a webcam, there the solution was to add force_palette=15 to the modprobe ov511 ..05:40
rambo3modinfo  ov511 then ?05:40
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enkidunolimitsoya, QwertyM: thanks, I wrote her an email to tell her how to apt-get clean her computer05:41
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ADDok...how do i do that05:41
jpjacobsADD try the modinfo pwc05:41
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ADDjust type modinfo pwc?05:42
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j_oker2Anyone around that knows networking fairly well?  I have a question about my linux router setup...05:42
jpjacobsADD indeed05:42
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rambo3yeah see parm : and you can brind down module and modprobe it with param=value05:42
green_earzenkidu: have a look at using vnc to the remote machine so you can maintian it in the future.05:42
dfcarneyj_oker2: I know a bit.  Regardless, please just ask your question -- if someone can help, they will :)05:42
gigaditto, i know a fair amount05:42
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enkidugreen_earz: she's behind a router05:43
wimsmy mouse pointer is scrambled on my second monitor after installing ATi drivers, but everything else looks allright, anybody have an idea on how to fix it *?05:43
IceToxAnyone here knows if skype comes with webcam support for debian/ubuntu?05:43
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enkidugreen_earz: and I don't think vnc is active before gdm, is it ?05:44
ADDOk, i did that.  now what am i looking for specifically?05:44
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hassanIceTox: no it does not05:44
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j_oker2I setup IPCop as my router/dhcp and I setup a 2003 server as my dns server and domain.  I have 2 linksys routers I am using as switches.  Since I put all this in, i can't get my media center and my xbox to work together.  I think i need to create some kind of route between them but am unsure how.05:44
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gigaMy mouse gets all freaky whenever I swith PCs with my kvm switch. Anyway to fix?05:44
IceToxhassan: ok, thanks for a short answer :)05:44
hassanIceTox: i use Ekiga for that05:44
IceToxhassan: yeah but I'm gonna communicate with my brother that uses windows.05:44
hassanIceTox: gyach is a yahoo client that supports webcam05:45
jpjacobsADD, have you googled for this stuff?05:45
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rambo3ADD see parm : and you can brind down module and modprobe it with param=value05:45
IceToxwell, amsn 0.97 supports it as well hassan, but I'm not able to see myself..05:45
ADDfor the last 3 days.  and found nothing to help05:45
dfcarneyj_oker2: how are the routers connected?  Where are the 2003 server, the xbox, and your media center attached?05:45
gigaicetox: ditto, thier webcam works but not mine05:45
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green_earzenkidu: that ok if the router will do port forwarding and use ssh to connect,05:46
hassanmmm05:46
gigaany1 here use kvm swiched between ubuntu installs?05:46
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hassangiga: yes me05:46
Slartgiga: there are some kvm switches with built in mouse support..05:46
seanhCan anyone recommend me a reliable GUI backup tool for EDGY? Need to backup 70GB to DVDs05:46
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nolimitsoyaseanh, hubackup05:46
ADDthis is frustrating05:46
Slartgiga: or not support.. mouse emulation was the word I was looking for05:47
j_oker2dfcarney the ipcop router goes to the 8 port switch.  the media center and server are on that switch.  a 4 port wireless switch is connected to the 8 port switch as well.  The xbox is on the 4 port.05:47
jpjacobsADD, i really don't know how to solve your problem05:47
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ValMarkoFirewall. Do I need to install?05:47
seanhnolimitosya - hubackup does not work fully yet05:47
JQGhi,how to write a shell that can monitor the network connection avaliable,if invaliable then retry to connect with pon dsl-provider:)05:47
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ADDok...thanks anyway, jp05:47
n2diyI'm testing a backup/restore routine, and after restoring /home and /etc to my test box, X won't start. How can I config it from the command line?05:47
dfcarneyj_oker2: do things work if you connect the xbox to the 8-port instead?  (i.e. as a test)05:47
nolimitsoyaseanh, still the best there is. use tar/p7zip, and split to the right size is the other option05:47
gigahow do you send a message to one specific user?05:47
Music_Shufflegiga, on IRC?05:48
nolimitsoyagiga, /msg05:48
gigaya music_shuffle05:48
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hassangiga: i have stopped using kvm, i use synergy (2 screens 1 mouse 1 keyb)05:48
Music_Shuffle^05:48
seanhnolimitsoya - Do you know what parts of hubackup work and don't work so far?05:48
Music_Shuffle!pm05:48
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.05:48
Music_ShuffleErr...that doesn't read as you'd expect. Lol.05:48
j_oker2dfcarney: I have to go disconnect and try, one moment.  I CAN ping from the media center to the xbox however...05:48
gigahassan, what hardware do u need for synergy?05:48
nolimitsoyaseanh, nope. i dont use it. i tried it once though, and it seemed pretty functional tome05:48
hassannetwork connection05:48
hassan2 screens05:49
gigacrap05:49
dfcarneyj_oker2: can you ping in the other direction?  Does the xbox have that functionality?05:49
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nolimitsoyagiga, as i said, use /msg05:49
nolimitsoyagiga, or /query if youd prefer05:49
seanhnolimitsoya - I tested it, it created dar files but could not restore them05:49
wildchildis there any tool to encrypt file?05:49
j_oker2DFCarney, wait, I can't even ping the xbox...are teh two segments not working together?05:49
nolimitsoyaseanh, cant you just unzip them?05:49
JQGhi,how to write a shell that can monitor the network connection avaliable,if invaliable then retry to connect with pon dsl-provider:)05:50
seanhnolimitsoya -- I dunno, using command line dar?05:50
dfcarneyj_oker2: maybe, maybe not.  I don't know if the xbox has support to respond to pings.05:50
dfcarneyj_oker2: can you telnet or FTP to it?05:50
nolimitsoyaseanh, yes05:50
j_oker2Let me take the other router of the equation, hold on (NO, its not modded, it doesn't have that ability)05:50
SlartThis might be a question everyone asks.. but I haven't found anything in the faq, nor did google help me. How can I select what drives end up on my desktop? I still want some of them.. just not all05:50
seanhnolimitsoya - hmm.. i'll test it05:51
nolimitsoyaSlart, thats done on a very low level. i doubt youll have any control over it05:51
Slartoh.. and I'm running Ubuntu 6.10, Gnome version05:51
Slartnolimitsoya: bah.. so I'll have to unmount some drives to make them disappear05:52
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nolimitsoyaSlart, i have no idea, im not running gnome :) i think you would though...05:52
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Slartnolimitsoya: ok, thanks for your help05:52
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Slartnolimitsoya: oh, one more thing.. is gnome responsible for creating those shortcuts..or some other software running?05:53
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nolimitsoyaSlart, that should be gnome/nautilus, on a hal level05:53
dromerhey all, I'm having trouble getting mplayer to play certain streaming media (mplayer-plugin)05:54
ValMarkoShould I install Firestarter since ubuntu has a builted-in firewall?05:54
dromerthe plugin connects to the media, and starts buffering, but eventually doesn't play05:54
Slartnolimitsoya: ok, thanks again05:54
nolimitsoyaValMarko, ubuntu doesnt have a built in firewall05:54
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ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).05:54
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jpjacobsdromer: happens with the most recent wmv stuff i guess05:54
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dromerjpjacobs: this is with .asf05:55
nolimitsoyaValMarko, note the diffrence between 'built in firewall _capability_' and 'built in firewall'05:55
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ValMarkoyoure right05:55
dfcarneynolimitsoya: what's the difference?05:56
compengiin the terminal what command can show me the size of the files in a folder05:56
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nolimitsoyadfcarney, ubuntu has all the tools, but they arent configured05:56
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dfcarneynolimitsoya: gotcha.05:56
ValMarkoShould I install Firestarter or... is there a better one?05:56
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kitcheValMarko: better what?05:57
nolimitsoyaValMarko, running standard ubuntu, you should install firestarter05:57
compengiValMarko, firestarter is good05:57
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j_oker2DFCarney: even with the 2nd router gone, still nto working...weird05:57
ValMarkotanks05:57
dfcarneyj_oker2: yeah, that's strange.  Does the xbox get an IP address when you start it up?05:57
compengiValMarko, cans ;)05:57
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kane77hi05:58
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dfcarneyj_oker2: I believe that you have to configure it for DHCP (at least, that's what you have to do for a modded xbox)05:59
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j_oker2yes, it gets an ip, pulls dns servers from the 2003 server.  It gets on xbox live.05:59
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j_oker2I've done that.  It looks like my IPCop is blocking port 3776.  I keep getting a denied on that port for some reason from xbox05:59
dfcarneyj_oker2: all right...  Can you connect to your media center from another PC?  Likewise, can your media center connect to something other than the xbox?06:00
compengiin the terminal what command can show me the size of the files in a folder06:00
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dfcarneyj_oker2: You realize that your inquiry isn't ubuntu-specific, right?  :)06:00
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j_oker2yes it can06:00
dfcarneycompengi: du -sh *06:00
j_oker2I do, i certainly know, but no other channels would answer.06:00
jpjacobscompengi, du -hc06:01
dfcarneycompengi: or "ls -al"06:01
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Almodovarhello there, I've installed ubu5.10 on a dual core, only the server part, how can I upgrade that via console?and repositories are not working that well either...06:01
n2diyI'm testing a backup/restore routine, and after restoring /home and /etc to my test box, X won't start. How can I config it from the command line?06:01
j_oker2i realize now that the ipcop is blocking ports.  let me look into guys and see if i can't find an answer now that i know the problem.  i appreciate the help06:01
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puyitesing06:03
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nolimitsoyaj_oker2, just log onto ipcops webconfig utility and forward the port06:03
Wookstaif i want to install mysql, apache, php, etc but want to use my system as a desktop / development / workstation should i use the ubuntu server or desktop edition?06:03
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dfcarneyj_oker2: Well, I'm guessing it's a config problem between your media center and the xbox.  The router won't block or NAT traffic internally, so unless your xbox or media center has some kind of firewall enabled, I'd start reading manuals.06:04
nolimitsoyaWooksta, either should be fine06:04
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Wookstanolimitsoya, ok thanks06:05
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Sorinhello, dosr anyone know how to access windows partitions from Ubuntu desktop? I don't have the Disk tool under System Administration06:05
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kane77I want to resize my windows partition (make it smaller)... is it safe? (will I lose my data) I want to use qtparted06:06
tengilhow do i check what process keeps one of my harddrives busy06:06
dfcarneyj_oker2: sorry that I can't be of much more help.  For a test you could try connecting your xbox directly to your media center (and setting up static IP addresses and routing tables) -- that will eliminate other sources of errors.06:06
nolimitsoya!ntfs | Sorin06:06
ubotuSorin: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:06
jpjacobsWooksta, depends on what you plan to use as desktop environment. if you want gnome use ubuntu-desktop, if you want kde used kubuntu-desktop if you want xfce use xubuntu-desktop, and if you want fluxbox install the server and install fluxbox later06:06
birketthey, could someone help me out with ndiswrapper please?06:06
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Arwenkane77, no it's not safe06:06
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Ace2016bye all, thanks for your help06:06
Arwenkane77, you can do it with gparted or qtparted, but be sure to backup06:06
dfcarneytengil: 'lsof' will give you a list of all open/active file descriptors for processes06:06
slackerSorin: you should be able to mount them pretty straightforward: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Windows06:07
compengithanks dfcarney, jpjacobs :)06:07
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kane77Arwen, but what? its 120GB disk... I can't back it up completely...06:07
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Arwenkane77, err... you're kinda out of luck then06:07
Arwenkane77, you can try resizing, it may or may not succeed06:07
ValMarkoWell , firestarter is running and is blocking a lot of stuff :)06:08
kane77Arwen, that's not what I was hoping for.. :D06:08
birkettive got a winbond wireless card in my laptop, with the standard XP drivers copied to my linux partition, ive installed ndiswrapper, installed the drivers, ndiswrapper shows hardware as present for the driver, but i cant get the card to display in the network config panel06:08
tengildfcarney: when trying to unmount /dev/hdc1 i get "device is busy". I tried lsof |grep hdc1 but got nothing, any other ideas?06:08
Arwenkane77, don't you have extra hard drives for backup? lol06:08
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kane77no..06:08
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nolimitsoyakane77, you realy should have a backup scheme either way. get one06:08
starzanyone else get high loads on just idling?06:08
Arwenkane77, but if you don't, just backup the files you need and reinstall with a Win* CD if it fails06:08
slackertengil: fuser -c /dev/hdc106:08
dfcarneytengil: what's hdc1 mounted as?06:08
jpjacobstengil, sudo fuser -aikm /dev/hdc106:08
dfcarneyslacker: good call -- i forgot about fuser06:08
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slackerdfcarney: first thing I use when I get a device is busy error06:09
kane77Arwen, its not a system disk, so thats not a problem06:09
Arwenis it possible to partition a CD-ROM?06:09
jpjacobsstarz, can be... like when update-db runs. look at top to see what's hoggign cpu06:09
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Arwenkane77, so, even if it's 120GB, how much of it is important data?06:09
starzjpjacobs, nothing much06:09
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birkettive got a winbond wireless card in my laptop, with the standard XP drivers copied to my linux partition, ive installed ndiswrapper, installed the drivers, ndiswrapper shows hardware as present for the driver, but i cant get the card to display in the network config panel06:09
Arwen120GB is only around 30 DVDs, btw06:09
starzcpu is low load is high06:09
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kane77Arwen, they are kind of important right now... (its dv video imported from a cam)06:10
tengilslacker: dfcarney jpjacobs fuser didnt show anything either. its mounted as /movies06:10
nolimitsoyaArwen, even less if you use dual layer dvd:s :)06:10
Arwennolimitsoya, but in price, that's more expensive06:10
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bennyhello, is there a way to use fglrx without gdm, but with ratpoison ??06:10
Arwenkane77, seriously, get an external HD for backup purposes - is your win partition NTFS?06:10
nolimitsoyaArwen, it is, but might be worth it for a long term backup solution :)06:11
jpjacobstengil, tried quitting everything that can be accessing it? like shells that are cd'd to that dir?06:11
rausb0birkett: are you sure you need to use the windows drivers for that card? which chipset is it?06:11
kane77no... its fat3206:11
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tengiljpjacobs: yeah i tried that06:11
Arwenkane77, .... why didn't you say so???06:11
Arwenyea, you can resize it (I'd still recommend defrag+backup first)06:11
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Sorinslacker: thanks, I will try do to the steps from that doc06:11
bobbychello, i'm looking for a c ide. what is the best program to use? i'm also looking for software to measure code complexity. any recommendations?06:11
kane77Arwen, does that change anything?06:11
kane77bobbyc, i think anjuta is good...06:11
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dfcarneytengil: well, if fuser and lsof don't tell you then i'm stumped.  Maybe 'ps axuf' will show you.06:12
slackertengil: if you are sure nothing is using that mountpoint: umount -l06:12
Arwenkane77, it does, lol - when you say windows partition, that usually means ntfs.....06:12
birkettrausb0: its not officially supported, and i dunno about the chipset, its a winbond w89c33 mPCI06:12
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kane77Arwen, my fault...06:12
jpjacobstengil, otherwise use sync && umount -l /movies06:12
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Arwenkane77, try using an MS partition tool like Partition Magic instead of gparted, might be safer06:13
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kane77Arwen, I believe I had one of those somewhere... I try to use it...06:13
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wenkohey there can anyone tell me how to change the order of the grub boot loader06:14
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closetthello all motherfuckers ;)06:15
birkettcan anyone help me out on this one?06:15
Arwenwenko, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:15
Arwen!language > closett06:15
wenkothanks arwen06:15
closettiam an german boy arwen06:15
slackerLOL and that makes it ok?06:15
Arwenbirkett, with?06:15
closettyes *g*06:16
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birkettive got a winbond wireless card in my laptop, with the standard XP drivers copied to my linux partition, ive installed ndiswrapper, installed the drivers, ndiswrapper shows hardware as present for the driver, but i cant get the card to display in the network config panel06:16
kane77Arwen, I was almost sure there would be no problem resizing partition... I used fdisk to partition my usb flash disk ... I deleted the partition and created new, and believeit or not  the data was there...06:16
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slackerze germans...06:16
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closettlol can here anyone speak german?06:16
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MasterLexxja ich06:16
Rookie-!de06:16
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:16
Arwenkane77, err... it was still there? did you verify it?06:16
MasterLexxgehe in #ubuntu-de06:16
closettoh ich bin aj doch nicht allein ;)06:16
Electro<slacker> LOL and that makes it ok? << I guess he means the Germans did worse things then name calling?06:16
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closetthm ka wie ich berhaupt hier gelandet bin06:17
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kane77Arwen, yes... (I had backup anyway) it was there...06:17
closetthihi06:17
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tjb891does anyone here know how to enlarge a ununtu ext3 partitian?06:17
kane77Arwen, I couldnt believe it...06:17
closettnaja ich bin mal wieder weg .... ciao06:17
Arwenkane77, lol06:17
closettgood bye06:17
closett ;)06:17
kane77tjb891, thats what I'm trying to do...06:17
Arwenkane77, anyway, try resizing fat32, should go smoothly06:17
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Arwentjb891, grow2fs I think06:17
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tjb891kane77:i have gp-parted livecd06:17
kane77tjb891, there is a program gparted or qtparted....06:17
slackerElectro: could be.. I think the germans nowadays are not that eager to eliminate other humans06:18
LeetlandonHey.06:18
tjb891but it does not let me make it bigger,only smaller06:18
birkettArwen: any ideas?06:18
Arwentjb891, use the resize2fs command06:18
Arwenbirkett, for?06:18
birkettive got a winbond wireless card in my laptop, with the standard XP drivers copied to my linux partition, ive installed ndiswrapper, installed the drivers, ndiswrapper shows hardware as present for the driver, but i cant get the card to display in the network config panel06:18
LeetlandonDoes anyone know how far the counter goes up right when you start installing Ubuntu 6.1006:18
tjb891i might just renstall ubuntu, don't want to do that for a while though06:19
tjb891to much to burn to dvd and reload06:19
Arwenbirkett, hrmm... say, is there a reason you can't use Ethernet instead? it's infinitely better than wifi06:19
Arwentjb891, get another hard drive.............06:19
birketti need portability06:19
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tjb891i have 206:19
dromerI have mounted a USB-drive with: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/USB/  but where can I find it? it isn't in /media/06:19
Arwentjb891, anyway, use the resize2fs command like I told you06:19
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slackerArwen: that's not a solution to a problem, try fixed instead of wireless06:19
roadboyhi all. i'm compiling some applications from source with apt-build install package but when the installer tries to install it dpkg gives the error: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes. how can i fix it?06:20
tjb891wireless is cheaper now than ethernet06:20
kitchedromer: /mnt/USB is the place that you mounted it06:20
zeeedhow can I disable password confirming, when application want to use key from key manager database in gnome?06:20
birkettya... just i cant get my wifi working :)06:20
LeetlandonDoes anyone know how far the counter goes up right when you start installing Ubuntu 6.1006:20
dromerkitche: aah, should I mount it to /media then ?06:20
Arwenslacker, it's not... but oh well06:20
Rambo3!gpg | roadboy06:20
uboturoadboy: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto06:20
ArwenLeetlandon, 1 notch06:20
kitchedromer: up to you06:20
cdavis_Off Topic, but does anyone have a couple of links where I can actually download *free* mp3 ringtones?06:20
LeetlandonPardon me?06:20
dfcarneydromer: if anything, mount it to a directory inside of /media.  Mounting it just to /media will hide everything already in that directory.06:20
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rausb0birkett: complain to the card manufacturer about missing linux drivers. ndiswrapper is just a lame workaround, no real solution.06:21
slackerArwen: if you don't have a solution, why make the comment at all?06:21
kane77Arwen, err... how shoud I go about doing that (resizing).. I think i need to unmount the disks I wanna work on... but I cannot unmount my ext2 partition ?06:21
birkettppft06:21
roadboyubotu, i've gpg installed and i'm using it.06:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i've gpg installed and i'm using it. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:21
Zrock<birkett> i had to do a reinstall to get the system to see my wifi card nothing else seemed to work06:21
Arwenslacker, and... why are you making personal attacks instead of suggesting your own solution? stfu06:21
hassandoes anybody know of a good way to exctract some text information from an html file?06:21
dfcarneyroadboy: ubotu is a bot :)06:21
dromerdfcarney: yes /media/USB then06:21
LeetlandonArwen, how much is a noth?06:22
Arwenkane77, if you're running off that partition, you can't unmount it because it's system06:22
dfcarneydromer: should work, providing nothing else is mounted there06:22
rausb0Arwen: wireless may be not as reliable as ethernet, but without it i wouldn't have internet access right now06:22
ArwenLeetlandon, 1 notch = 1 of those weird rectangle thingies in the progress bar06:22
Arwenrausb0, ...what kinda place doesn't have ethernet jacks?06:22
birkettZrock: the system finds the card fine... the drivers install through ndiswrapper fine, but the card just will not appear in the net panel06:22
dfcarneyArwen: internet cafes?06:22
zeeedcan somebody help me with key manager in gnome?06:22
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LeetlandonAren how much is a notch?06:22
ArwenLeetlandon, oh wait... installing... hrmm... no idea?06:22
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Shaezschewhat does irqpoll do when u add it to the bootline? it sped my time way up06:23
Arwendfcarney, hrmm..06:23
d3Anyplace in ubuntu that tells me what date the OS was installed?06:23
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Arwend3, the creation date of x system file should tell you06:23
sacater_how do i get sound drivers for my motherboard06:23
Zrock<birkett> same problem i had all drivers and everything were installed for the card but i could not get the card to appear for nothing06:23
Arwend3, lol06:23
Leetlandon Like right after the splash page.06:23
rausb0Arwen: the dsl router is downstairs two floors. connecting from here with a cable would mean drilling holes through the floor06:23
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birkettzrock: how did you go about re-installing?06:24
Music_ShuffleAnd ceiling.06:24
Arwenrausb0, ah06:24
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quad3dis there a good DVD author software anyone can recommend?06:24
slewhi how do i convert a .wma sound file to .ogg?06:24
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slewquad3d, i like tovid06:24
ssamd3  ls -l /var/log/installer/06:24
Zrockjust fired in the ubuntu disk and let it start all over again... what version are you running?06:24
sacater_how do i install sound drivers for my motherboard06:24
PingunZHi, I did a clean install today and my internet isn't working.. usually when I install ubuntu the internet works by default .. I use dhcp ..06:24
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quad3dslew, thanks. i'll check it out06:25
d3Arwen,  nice. thanks.06:25
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slewquad3d, np have fun =] 06:25
kitche!ipv6|PingunZ try to disable that first06:25
ubotuPingunZ try to disable that first: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv406:25
Cyber_Stalkeris unreal IRCD in the repositorys?06:25
Shnaxdoes anyone know how to fix a bad PBR error on a windows partition, caused by partition resizing during ubuntu installation?06:25
birkettzrock: 6.1006:25
slacker*blieb* stupid private msgs thing..06:25
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LeetlandonAnyone know what the counter with the c0104306 and etc coming up 30 times a second goes up to after the splash page with 6.10 installing?06:25
Zrockare u usine one of the alternate installs (i386) ?06:26
PingunZkitche, wait .. I think I'll test if it works in a livecd session :)06:26
LeetlandonNope, desktop.06:26
hdibanianybody knows of an easy way to set up an ldap server?06:26
n2diyI'm testing a backup/restore routine, and after restoring /home and /etc to my test box, X won't start. How can I config it from the command line?06:26
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kitchePingunZ: it might work in the install also but ipv6 slows down the internet if you don't use it06:27
Cyber_Stalker!ircd06:27
ubotuircd: IRC Server daemon - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB06:27
birkettzrock: i386 ya06:27
wimpiesAfter and update and reboot my sound card does not come up anymore.06:27
Cyber_Stalker!unreal06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unreal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
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Cyber_Stalker!unrealircd06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unrealircd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
wimpiesI get snd_hda_intel : disagreeing on versions.06:27
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wimpiesI have edgy and 2.6.17-10 and all seem installed06:27
n2diyubotu, configx06:27
XiXaQI'm dialing with Twinkle. It sais: "This account number is not valid." It that my VoIP provider or Twinkle?06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about configx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
Zrock<birkett> thats the install i had trouble with... i switched over the the main distribution and all worked well06:27
n2diyubotu, configure x06:28
birkettkk ill have a go... thanks06:28
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about configure x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:28
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PingunZkitche, I know .. but at this moments .. its not slowing down anything .. since there is no connection :D06:28
slewhow can i convert a wma file to ogg?06:28
Arwenslew, don't do it06:28
n2diyubotu, x configure06:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x configure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:28
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birkettzrock: i386 is the main distro according to the website06:29
slewArwen, can i convert it to mp3?06:29
n2diyubotu, ubotu06:29
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:29
Arwenslew, don't convert it06:29
Arwenslew, unless of course you like crappy audio06:29
Zrock<birkett> that is a alternate dist06:29
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kitchePingunZ: so ifconfig not showing your device as having an ip?06:29
slew=]  i <3 crappy audio.06:29
birkettwheres the main one then?06:29
kosnickwhat is the /dev/..... file for an external usbdisk?06:29
n2diyubotu, xfree8606:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
PingunZkitche, haven't tried :)06:29
Cyber_Stalkerhello? any one? is unreal ircd in the repositorys?06:30
Arwenslew, .... lol, !restrictedformats has some tips on transcoding... but still, avoid it like the plague06:30
kitchekosnick: depends on your hardware but it be something like sdXc where X is the device letter and c is the number of the partition06:30
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kosnickkitche : what do you mean device letter?06:31
birkettsda106:31
birketthdc206:31
birkette.c.t06:31
slewArwen, i need to burn the track for school, but gnome baker wont burn wma.06:31
nothlitcan anyone pastebin me the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/wireless-tools.list on edgy?06:31
kosnickkitche :so if it is number one , its a right?06:31
Arwenslew, if you just want to burn it, convert it to lossless such as wav or flac06:31
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SlartCyber_Stalker: apt-cache doesn't work?06:31
kosnick"a"06:31
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Arwen!transcode06:31
ubotutranscode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2293 kB, installed size 5424 kB06:32
slewArwen, ahh ok cool =] 06:32
kitchekosnick: for example my first usb device will be /dev/sda since I run a IDE/PATA system06:32
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dromerso, I'm stil having trouble using mplayer to play either .asf or .rm streaming, on this particular website (uitzendinggemist.nl) the .asf load but don't play and .rm loasd and only plays audio06:32
kosnickkitche : ok thx06:32
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Arwen!restrictedformats06:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:32
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Arwenslew, ignore that factoid about transcode...06:32
slewok06:32
dromerArwen: are they both restricted huh ? ..06:32
nothlitthey are06:33
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Arwendromer, ?06:33
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dromerhmm, I thought the .rm should be able to play ..06:33
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Arwenslew, try the soundconverter package06:33
rausb0dromer: still .rm is a proprietary format06:33
Zrock<birkett> ya i see that now... they have changed the site since i DL it... they had a list of the 4 diffrent dist when i DL it and the i386 was under the alernat install methods.. i got the graphical install06:34
Arwendromer, rm is a real media file, which 1. sucks and 2. is restricted06:34
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birkettzrock: ive just got the ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso06:34
rausb0Arwen: agree06:34
slewArwen, i'll give it a lookie loo06:34
dromeryeah well, the .asf doesn't play (yet ..)06:34
SlartArwen: does the rm-format suck too? I thought it was only the player..06:34
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Arwendromer, asf is just a container - what codec is the audio/video in?06:35
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dromerno idea06:35
rausb0Slart: it sucks because you need closed source codecs for it06:35
sacater_how do i install sound drivers for my motherboard06:35
jendaThere is a quiz at 20:00 UTC tonight in #ubuntu-trivia! Be sure to attend, and if you're lucky, you might win a prime Ubuntu Poster! (Today's sponsor: rob)06:35
ArwenSlart, yea... Real Media sucks a lot, it's legacy compared to modern video and audio codecs06:35
Zrock<birkett> not sure now.... when i dl i got 4 diffrent versions06:35
Slartrausb0: how does "Real Alternative" make their player? using closed source codecs?06:36
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birkettwhats bugging me is that ndiswrapper -l reports the drive is installed and hardware is ppresent, iwlist and iwconfig only list my modem and ethernet06:36
tur1hi guys can any one redirect me to a site that shows me how to setup my webcam for Instant messenger, thanks in advance06:36
rausb0Slart: i dont know real alternative06:36
Slartrausb0: or.. wait.. I shouldn't be asking you.. I can go look for myself..06:36
robdemanhi all I installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS but when I open SysInfo the 'System' reports Linux, 2.6.15.27-server, release: testing/unstable06:36
robdemanwhy is it 'unstable' ??06:36
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dfcarneysacater_: do you have the source code for the driver?06:36
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Slartrausb0: =).. it's an ..free (perhaps open source) real player for windows (and perhaps more)06:36
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sacater_dfcarney: no06:37
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Arwenrobdeman, err... did you install a release candidate or other testing release? if not, just ignore the bug06:37
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dfcarneysacater_: well, do you at least have the driver file (a .ko or a .o file)?06:37
dromerhmm, Arwen the .asf plays now ( this stream btw: mms://topstreams.omroep.nl/tv/ikon/dedonderdagdocumentaire/bb.20061213.asf)  but the fullscreen doesn't play propper06:37
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sacater_dfcarney: its just my motherboard sound, and i need drivers for it06:37
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CharminTheMoosehey all06:37
rausb0Slart: i doubt that it is open source. most "free" windows programs aren't06:37
sacater_dfcarney: i have no drivers06:37
Arwendromer, what do you mean fullscreen doesn't play proper?06:37
robdemanArwen: I downloaded and installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS server for maximum stability>?06:37
tur1any one here is using or have use a webcam under ubuntu?06:37
Arwendromer, also, I'm on dialup so I can't view that stream06:37
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illu45hi06:37
zdenekhas anyone an idea how to transfer file in ubuntu to a sony music player nw-S205F?06:37
Arwenrobdeman, and it was the final release, correct? if it was, just ignore the "testing/unstable"06:38
birkettmount the player as a drive in /media06:38
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dromerer, the sound and video don't play smooth .. hmm they 'burp' or h/e I can discribe it06:38
neskato23Hey, guys, I have a problem configuring my keyboard shortcuts, because the "media" button06:38
CharminTheMooseI'm having a serious problem with my dell wireless 1450,I need to get it working under wep,anyone know how to get it?06:38
dfcarneysacater_: first step is to figure out which driver you need -- you'll have to search on Google for that.  Then, see if it's been included in your system (look in /lib and on the Ubuntu website for details).  From there, you'll either need to use 'modprobe' to install it, or download the source code, build it, and install it.06:38
dromerArwen: ok, too bad06:38
CharminTheMooseit works grand if there's no encryption06:38
neskato23opens me the Rythmbox and I would like to open amarok.06:38
robdemanArwen: Its the one that ubuntu.com offeres from their main download page??06:38
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neskato23(using GNOME)06:38
Arwenrobdeman, yep - ignore the unstable/testing part, it's just another weird bug06:38
viatorj #ubuntu-ot06:38
Arwendromer, so, what was that about fullscreen?06:39
sacater_drcarney: isnt there something called gnome-alsa06:39
zdenekthe mounting is done automatically but the data there seems very cryptic06:39
rausb0robdeman: testing/unstable is just what /etc/debian_release says. you can ignore that in ubuntu.06:39
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robdemanArwen: I got this one http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ -> Server install CD -> PC (Intel x86) server install CD06:39
Slartrausb0: hehe.. it was freeware only... and Real Media is upset with them about copyright issues http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Alternative06:39
dfcarneysacater_: maybe, but if you don't have a driver loaded then ALSA won't help you at all.06:39
viatorugh06:39
walterhello everyone.06:39
viatorwhats the off topic room called06:39
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viatoragain06:39
CharminTheMooseanyone want to help me?06:39
Arwenrobdeman, it's fine then - ignore the testing/unstable, it's a debian quirk that ubuntu inherits06:39
robdemanok06:39
walterim new to linux, i just installed ubuntu 32 bit.. latest one..06:40
Slart!ask CharminTheMoose06:40
robdemankind of weir dthough....06:40
rausb0Slart: i see06:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask CharminTheMoose - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:40
dromerArwen: the sound and video 'burp' or .. don't play smooth ..06:40
walterhow can i duplicate music CD ?06:40
Slartnoo.. didn't work06:40
dfcarneysacater_: for reference, 'alsamixer' will give you the ALSA volume control from the prompt...06:40
neskato23I have tried in System->Preferences->My Preferred Applications but not there...06:40
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Arwendromer, what model graphics card, cpu speed, net connection, and stream bitrate?06:40
SlartCharminTheMoose: just ask06:40
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leachizzlehey06:40
leachizzlei need help please06:40
viatoranyone know how to stream a usb webcam across a local network06:40
birkettcould someone please just walk me through ndiswrapper installation please?06:40
CharminTheMooseI'm having a serious problem with my dell wireless 1450,I need to get it working under wep,anyone know how to get it?It works fine without encryption.Could I just be entering the key wrong?06:40
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viatorin a windows environment06:41
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dfcarney!anyone | leachizzle06:41
ubotuleachizzle: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:41
viatori know i can do it in ubuntu via vlc at home06:41
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leachizzlek thanks06:41
viatorbut iread you cant do that in vlc on windows06:41
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SlartCharminTheMoose: oh.. I've never touched wireless on linux.. can't help you there06:41
nothlit!windows | viator06:41
ubotuviator: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:41
dromerGeForce2MX, PentiumIII800mhz 512ram surfnet-connection, no idea about bitrate06:41
dromerArwen: ^06:41
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viatornothlit06:41
viatorwell iasked what06:41
viatorthe offtopic06:42
viatorchannel was06:42
viatorand NOONE responded06:42
Arwendromer, it could just be that your processor is too slow to scale the video and therefore drops frames and audio buffers06:42
nothlitsometimes people are busy, and the help is free06:42
leachizzledoes anybody know how to start either the shoucast server or ice cast server i cant seem to find where but i know they are installed...Thanks06:42
ubunhow do i remap keys in ubuntu?06:42
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viatorits ubuntu ot06:42
Arwendromer, the video bitrate shows in the video details of various media players (not the default ubuntu one though)06:42
viatorbut06:42
shiner421Greetings my friends :)06:42
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dfcarney!enter | viator06:43
ubotuviator: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:43
neskato23Uh, I really would apreciate your help guys.06:43
shiner421a very easy question here: what is a good program for converting wma files to ogg format?06:43
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Arwenshiner421, please don't try that, unless you're ears are so bad that crappy sound means nothing to you06:43
shiner421why?06:43
gephaltAnyone know of an application that can convert that goddamned .lit format? :(06:43
viator!offtopic06:43
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:43
viatorty06:43
Arwenshiner421, changing the codec (format) of a media file greatly reduces the quality06:44
Arwenunless you absolutely have to, don't06:44
illu45Could someone help me out with enabling hyperthreading?06:44
tjb891does anyone know if i can  with Gparted livecd i could make my ext3 partitian bigger by converting it to fat32,enlargin it, and converting it back to ext3?06:44
shiner421I absolutely have too06:44
shiner421for umm, reaons I cant get into here06:44
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Arwenillu45, enabling it? just go to your bios, turn it on, and voila06:44
Arwenshiner421, soundconverter - you know you can install w32codecs?06:44
dfcarneyshiner421: I think that mplayer can do it, but it's tricky.  Can't you convert them to .WAV files (in Windows) first?06:44
leachizzlehow do i start any server in ubuntu.. whats the code for the terminal.. or its name so i can search online im on day 2 of linux..lol its been good06:45
shiner421I think I have w32codecs installed06:45
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nothlitcan anyone pastebin me the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/wireless-tools.list on edgy? I need it to fix dpkg06:45
shiner421possibly, but thats more work than I wanted to get into06:45
dfcarneyleachizzle: to spawn a process, append "&" to the command06:45
shiner421I got 9 gb to convert06:45
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nothlit!terminal | leachizzle06:45
ubotuleachizzle: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:45
illu45Arwen, I'm pretty sure that its enabled in BIOS, as my Windows boot recognizes it, but it doesn't seem to be recognized in Ubuntu :(06:45
leachizzleTHANKS!06:45
Arwenshiner421, try converting to flac or wav or some other lossless codec... converting 9 GB will permanently crapify your audio and take ages06:45
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shiner421ok06:45
Arwenillu45, if the system monitor shows 2 CPUs, it's on06:46
shiner421can I do it all in Linux?06:46
Arwenshiner421, yea, try the soundconverter package06:46
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nothlittjb891, you can directly enlarge your ext3 partition with gparted06:46
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Arwenyou'll need w32codecs though06:46
shiner421installing that now thanks :)06:46
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leachizzleI LOVE UBUNTU06:46
leachizzle..lol06:46
leachizzlethanks06:46
illu45Arwen, Right, I'm afraid it only shows one, though :(06:46
dfcarneyshiner421: uh, maybe.  I found this article (though I don't know how much help it will be): http://ccux-linux.de/forums/showthread.php?p=1959006:46
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Arwenshiner421, if that doesn't work, you can use mencoder or vlc to transcode (that's an even worse idea)06:46
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ArdieMmy soundcard is using the "mic, in, out"-jack as "front, rear, lfe" also.... is there a way to switch between this modes (alsa?)?06:47
esaymanyone know of a good program to see my desktop cpu temps?06:47
illu45Arwen, I've been looking at this HowTo, but no luck so far, maybe I'm doing something wrong? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=89507706:47
ArdieMesaym, sensors06:47
ArdieMlm-sensors06:47
ArdieMor smth like that :)06:47
esaymthats all?  sounds too simple :-/06:48
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neskato23oh, c'mon... maybe all of you guys know how-to...06:48
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ArdieMhm?06:48
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kekekekehi there06:48
ldvxhello =D, somebody knows how can i change the main menu icon?? i tried changing in /usr/share/icons/Human/48x48/places/star-here.png and then i restarted gnome-panel but it doesn't work... any ideas? :(06:48
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kekekekeubuntu is teh sux0r!!! debian is teh r0x0r!!! debian is 1337, ubuntu is for n000bz!!!!!!!06:48
kekekekekekekeke+++06:48
rausb0esaym: or try cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temperature06:48
nothlitldvx, it can be in mutiple places, with multiple links and in multiple sizes06:49
CharminTheMoosekekekeke,stop trolling06:49
graftman, there's a non-starter06:49
leachizzleis there anyone here i can help me with shoutcast in general? if there is please Msg me..06:49
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kekekekewhy should i ?06:49
graftif you want to do it proper, try emacs vs. vim06:49
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dfcarneykekekeke: Debian is also way out-of-date.  When did they last make a "stable" release that had relatively modern packages?06:49
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rausb0kekekeke: so show us you are not a noob06:49
shiner421soundconverter doesnt seem to work, it says [file converted in 0s]  and there is no file afterwards, I am trying to convert from a NTFS partition, is that my problem?06:49
CharminTheMoosewell,if you think that ubuntu sucks and is inferior to debian why shout it?06:49
Administrateur_hallo06:49
neskato23I just want to make my keyboard media button open amarok, notrythmbox06:49
kekekeke.LOL :D06:49
PingunZkitche, it works now .. I just rebooted and .. tadam :)06:49
jpjacobsdon't feed the trolls06:49
Arwendfcarney, that's why there's the unstable release06:50
kekekekeCharminTheMoose: i only wanted to test if anyone feels offended by my bullshittalking06:50
graftunstable is not a release...06:50
jpjacobsjust  /ignore them06:50
neskato23please dont ignore me06:50
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esaymrausb0 thanks! that was what I was looking for!06:50
dfcarneyArwen: Which is fairly unstable...and ALWAYS the one that people use.06:50
CharminTheMoosei don't use ubuntu and i'm using debian but i'm not shout how much ubuntu sux06:50
ldvxnothlit, i tried by changing with every icon dealing with the main menu in ..../Human theme perhaps i'm missing something??06:50
robdemanhi folks what is a nice network / system infio viewer?06:50
esaymits shows in the logs like that06:50
kekekekeit's so funny when ppl get upset just because of some obvious trash talk06:50
graftum neskato23 there's some package to facilitate this, hode on06:50
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dfcarneyArwen: i.e. what's the point in even having a "stable" release if it's 6-12 months behind the times?06:50
Arwenshiner421, ah wait... I think it uses gstreamer, that might be the issue..., are you trying to output to the ntfs partition? that would be a problem06:50
robdemansome gnome tool that hsows how much load there is on teh eth0, waybe webserver etc06:50
kekekekeCharminTheMoose: it has NOTHING to do with operating systems... only with provoking ppl06:50
kekekekewell yeah06:50
kekekekeut worked06:50
shiner421no only read from the ntfs partition06:50
kekekekeso i can sleep well now06:50
Arwendfcarney, have you seen ubuntu? it's 6-24 months behind the times06:50
kekekekecya06:50
nothlitkekekeke, this channel is not the place for that.06:50
shiner421however I jstu copied the files to my desktop06:51
kekekekenothlit: oh yes it is06:51
graftneskato23: played with 'hotkeys'?06:51
kekekekegood night06:51
shiner421and tried to play one, and cant play wma files natively in linux06:51
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shiner421even though I supposedly installed the w32 codecs06:51
nothlit!w32codes | shiner42106:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32codes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:51
Arwenshiner421, hmm, I guess you'll have to do it the hard way... btw, use mplayer06:51
dfcarneyArwen: I find it better managed than Debian.  Not that I don't like Debian -- I use Debian at home, and Ubuntu at work. :)06:51
shiner421I did, supposedly06:51
BalachmarHi, my ubuntu edgy installation sometimes just hangs06:51
neskato23yes, graft06:51
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Slartdfcarney: in my short experience.. stable works.. all the time... unstable is newer.. but less stable06:51
graftno luck?06:51
neskato23i configure it there06:51
ArwenBalachmar, are you using the alternate install cd?06:51
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neskato23then i press "media" button06:51
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neskato23and rythmbox opens06:51
BalachmarI cannot ssh into it anymore and numlock light doesn't switch on or off as well06:51
Arwen!ht06:52
Slartdfcarney: if I need a server I'll chose debian over ubuntu =)06:52
neskato23i want amarok to be opend06:52
ubotuht: Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-4 (edgy), package size 493 kB, installed size 1372 kB06:52
graftneskato23: ah.. um06:52
dfcarneySlart: I agree.06:52
Arwendamn it...06:52
emiliahey guys, im trying to get internet connection sharing on 2 ubuntu computers to work, anyone feel like helping me?06:52
Arwen!hyperthreading06:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hyperthreading - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:52
tjb891can anyone please explain to me how to use gpparted to enlarge ext3 partitians?06:52
Arwen........................06:52
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rausb0esaym: however, some acpi implementations don't report the temperature right06:52
nothlitldvx, did you replace  the start heres for all the other sizes? also you have to log out and log back in06:52
Arwentjb891, we already told you - use resize2fs!06:52
graftemilia: details...06:52
esaymtrue06:52
wimpiesI have these sound modules that no longer want to loaded because of version mismatch on edgy ... ideas ?06:52
esaymbut it looks right06:52
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leachizzledoes anybody know how to turn off ip6 i tried all the ways shown in the forum but i get a erros and then cant save the file06:52
nothlit!firestarter | emilia06:52
ubotuemilia: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:52
esaymcompaired to what it is in windows06:52
esaym46*06:52
rausb0esaym: then either lm_sensors or xmbmon/mbmon might work better06:52
nothlit!ipv6 | leachizzle06:53
CharminTheMooseI'm having a serious problem with my dell wireless 1450,I need to get it working under wep,anyone know how to get it?It works fine without encryption.Could I just be entering the key wrong?06:53
ubotuleachizzle: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv406:53
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Arwentjb891, btw - right-click > resize, it's not brain surgery06:53
ldvxnothlit, yes... except for the scalable start icon06:53
emiliagraft : my one ubuntu pc im on now has 2 network cards, and a crossover cable to the other ubuntu pc06:53
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Take2today i added a new harddisk to my system on which xp is there! what to add to GRUB for making it boot Xp also06:53
nothlitldvx, well remove the scalable start icon or rename it06:53
leachizzlethanks! wow ya'll rock06:53
tjb891Arwen: yeah, i did and it would only shrink it not grow it06:53
nothlit!grub | Take206:53
ubotuTake2: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:53
shiner421apparantly the w32codecs I installed are video only06:53
graftemilia: ah... so you need to have one route packets for the other06:53
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bluehi guys, instead of switching to a full unstable ubuntu, is it possible to install unstable apps of my choice?06:53
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emilianothlit : im going to try firestarter thanks06:53
nothlit!vlc | shiner42106:53
ubotushiner421: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs06:53
emiliagraft : i dont know :)06:53
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klaus_hello, I am using kubuntu/edgy and trying to download images from my digicam (ptp/ip) via usb and digicam, but it doesnt work. it works as root using gphoto2. gphoto2 fails if user calls it. the user is in the group plugdev. So it is a problem wit06:54
klaus_h the access rights, but what can i do? has udev to do with it ?06:54
nothlitemilia, it has sharing built in, just make sure you follow the wizard :)06:54
jrib!backports | blue06:54
shiner421k thanks06:54
ubotublue: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports06:54
dfcarneyblue: it's possible, though some of the unstable apps may depend on unstable libraries which, in turn, will break otherwise stable apps06:54
jpjacobsklaus_, if you just changed groups: logout and back in.06:54
graftemilia: yep. what's the rest of your connection look like? got a router or something?06:54
emilianothlit: omg this is amazing thank you so much06:54
Arwenanyone? syslog says hyperthreading is off, how can I fix this?06:54
blueohhh i see06:54
ldvxnothlit, gonna try out.. thanks ;)06:54
bluethanks for the info06:54
rausb0klaus_: sounds like a permission problem with the /dev/bus/usb files06:54
nothlitblue, edgy is not unstable, its just dapper is a lot more stable06:54
dfcarneyblue: jrib's comment about backports is probably worth investigating first...06:54
klaus_jpjacobs, no sorry, i changed group time ago06:54
nothlitcan anyone pastebin me the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/wireless-tools.list on edgy? I need it to fix dpkg06:54
klaus_rausb0: yes, i think so !06:55
bluethanks guys, i'll do some more reading06:55
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nothlitdfcarney, no, backports doesn't work like that06:55
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shiner421unfortunately I cannot install vlc :(06:55
emilianothlit: im getting an error eth1 is not ready06:55
dfcarneynothlit: my point being that he may be able to find what he's looking for there first06:55
Take2today i added a new harddisk to my system on which xp is there! what to add to GRUB for making it boot Xp also06:55
rausb0klaus_: try ls -l /dev/bus/usb/0*/ and see to which owner/group the files belong and which permissions are set06:55
jribshiner421: why not?06:55
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shiner421I keep getting some sort of unresolved dependency / dependency that says it is not possible to install06:55
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jribshiner421: pastebin the output as well as your /etc/apt/sources.list please06:56
shiner421vlc:06:56
shiner421 Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>=0.60) but it is not installable06:56
shiner421 Depends: libdvdnav4 (>=0.1.9) but it is not installable06:56
shiner421 Depends: libdvdread3  but it is not installable06:56
shiner421 Depends: libgnutls12 (>=1.2.5) but it is not installable06:56
shiner421 Depends: libraw1394-5  but it is not installable06:56
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shiner421 Depends: wxvlc but it is not going to be installed06:56
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shiner421 Depends: vlc-plugin-alsa but it is not going to be installed06:56
jrib!pastebin | shiner42106:56
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ubotushiner421: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:56
dfcarneyblue: if that doesn't work out then you'll likely want to update your /etc/apt/sources.list and point it to unstable06:56
shiner421whoops06:56
gephaltI don't know whether I was able to post my msg earlier- in case it didnt go through, i'd like to ask it again06:56
shiner421working on sources list06:56
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gephaltare there any apps that could somehow extract text from .lit formats?06:56
Arwenshiner421, make sure you have the multiverse repository on06:56
jpjacobsshiner421, i guess there's something wrong with your sources.list06:56
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klaus_rausb0: crw-rw-r-- root root06:56
shiner421#deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted06:56
shiner421deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main06:56
shiner421deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted06:56
shiner421deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted06:56
shiner421## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the06:56
nothlitemilia, sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth106:56
jribshredder: NOT HERE06:56
rausb0klaus_: you can chmod the files in there with sudo, but it will only change them until next reboot. for permanent change, you need to alter some udev rules06:56
Arwenshiner421, you'll also need a copy of the w32codecs package, which is not in the repos - seveas has one, but he's a self-righteous bastard06:57
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nothlitjrib, i did the restart fsck and the aptitude clean and the -f install and the dpkg --configure -a, and it didn't work06:57
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emilianothlit : its doing something :)06:57
illu45Bah...06:57
klaus_rausb0, i try to change perms, one moment. thanks for your tip06:57
gatsuuu06:57
Seveaswell well, anon32 returned06:57
HoagHey all. Does anyone know if it's possible to set a wmctrl command to apply BEFORE an app is opened, so you don't have to run it every time?06:57
BalachmarHi, my ubuntu edgy installation sometimes just hangs06:57
BalachmarI cannot ssh into it anymore and numlock light doesn't switch on or off as well06:57
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jribnothlit: what happened to that .list file you couldn't read?06:57
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nothlitjrib, still unreadable06:58
nothlitjrib, i tried purging and reinstalling wireless-tools but it won't let me06:58
emilianothlit : No DHCPOFFERS received.06:58
emiliaNo working leases in persistent database - sleeping.06:58
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slacktyrodo i need to download some especial lib to be able to burn dvds?06:58
dfcarneySeveas: anon32?06:58
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nothlitemilia, oh, ok do you have a router?06:58
shiner421sorry everyone06:58
emilianothlit : no06:58
jribnothlit: I don't really know waht to do with filesystem errors like that other than fsck06:58
emilianothlit : its connected straight to the other pc06:58
CharminTheMooseI'm having a serious problem with my dell wireless 1450,I need to get it working under wep,anyone know how to get it?It works fine without encryption.Could I just be entering the key wrong?06:58
slayer03i got a problem while mounting a partition : http://pastebin.ca/28129906:58
klaus_rausb0, which are the correct permissions for /dev/bus/usb ?06:58
Seveasdfcarney, a worthless troll who likes to insult me06:58
nothlitemilia, otherwise, you need to set a static ip or install a dhscp server06:58
leachizzlei tried to turn off ipv6 and got his06:58
leachizzlealias net-pf-10 off06:58
shiner421wow I cant install banshee either06:58
rausb0klaus_: i am not at a ubuntu system now, so you'd have to figure out the udev rules yourself06:59
nothlitemilia, which one is connected to the internet?06:59
slayer03i want to mount the /dev/hdd2 and it just dont know the system file type06:59
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graftdoes normal ubuntu do NAT and such?06:59
jribshredder: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please06:59
emilianothlit : eth0 is06:59
jribshiner421: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please06:59
klaus_rausb0, ok, thank you06:59
shiner421k06:59
nothlitjrib, do you have edgy? i think i just need the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/wireless-tools.list06:59
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slayer03anyone can help please ?06:59
leachizzleI tried to turn off ipv6 right and got this in the terminal ~$  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list06:59
leachizzle(gedit:5278): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:06:59
leachizzleAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.06:59
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jribnothlit: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37401/07:00
graftslayer03: disktype /dev/hdd2 is often helpful07:00
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shiner421ok pasted my sources list, which I have a feeling is totally messed up07:00
nothlitjrib, thanks :)07:00
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walterHello, how can i copy a music CD with ubuntu ( gnome )07:00
shiner421I have lots of dapper and breezy entries07:00
jribshiner421: what's the url?  and paste the error too please07:00
shiner421k sec07:00
shiner421http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37400/ is the url07:00
slayer03i dont have this utility graft07:00
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slayer03i tried it : command not found07:00
slacktyrodo i need to download some especial lib to be able to burn dvds?07:00
shiner421errors I keep getting are unresolved dependencies thatsays cannot install07:01
CharminTheMoosehow well does ndiswrapper cope with wep encryption?07:01
illu45Could someone help me out with enabling hyper-threading on Edgy?07:01
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jribwalter: applicatiosn > sound and video > sound juicer07:01
graftslayer03: install it, it's in the repos07:01
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kitcheshiner421: do you have all the repos enabled?07:01
shiner421I think so07:01
nothlitjrib, hmm, would you know how to force the existing file's removal?07:01
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shiner421I see multiverse and universe a lot07:01
jribwalter: I thought you meant extract the tracks, did you mean actually copying a cd to another cd?07:01
jribnothlit: no07:02
walterYES07:02
nourihmm, when i unplug my network cable, "route" needs quite some time to determine the gateway07:02
rausb0nouri: try route -n instead07:02
jribwalter: have you tried gnomebacker, graveman, or k3b?07:02
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jribwalter: gnomebaker*07:02
nothlitshiner421, yeah you shouldn't have both dapper and breezy listed07:02
NewRhymeHey all! :-)07:02
HoagHey all. Does anyone know if it's possible to set a wmctrl command to apply BEFORE an app is opened, so you don't have to run it every time?07:02
slacktyrodo i need to download some especial lib to be able to burn dvds?07:03
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kitchenouri: you should also down the device before you take the cable out it will be faster instead of waiting for route07:03
shiner421ok where is an example list for an edgy sources.list?07:03
walteri need something easy .. this linux is for very beginer user07:03
shiner421messed mine all up hehe07:03
PingunZDo I need klibc when i use gnome ?07:03
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walterim new to linux as well07:03
shiner421or someone could paste theirs and I could copy it to my list07:03
walterwhere can i find those applications ?07:03
nothlitshiner421, wow, edgy dapper and breezy?07:03
shiner421Lol07:03
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shiner421Im daring07:03
shiner421so we have identified my problem07:03
NewRhymeCan someone help me with a simple "compiling " problem(S)?07:03
kitcheshiner421: umm just comment the lines for dapper and breezy07:04
nothlitshiner421, yes, its severely broken lol07:04
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neskato23i just want to open amarok with as my favorite music player in gnome instead of rythmbox when i press the keybinding07:04
shiner421no wonder beryl kept screwing up my x windows server07:04
nothlitshiner421, your system is still a breezy system07:04
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jribshiner421: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37380/ maybe add your beryl repo too07:04
jribshiner421: wait, are you not using edgy?07:04
NewRhymeI need to install "make" ...for some reason, when I installed the "DAppper"  64-bit version, it left that out...07:04
graftneskato23: wanna post your hotkeys.conf?07:04
nothlitshiner421, wait. wow. your sources.list is really scattered07:05
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nothlitshiner421, did you update properly from breezy to edgy to dapper?07:05
shiner421ok I copied jribs sources.list into mine07:05
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jribNewRhyme: install build-essential07:05
shiner421no I did a straight install for 6.1007:05
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jribshiner421: are you actually using edgy?07:05
frogzooNewRhyme: build-essential07:05
shiner421yes07:05
shiner421if thats 6.1007:05
nothlitshiner421, did you use source-o-matic?07:05
NewRhymeI have tried that...jrib....but, to NO avail...it is NOT on my install disk,...07:05
shiner421ahh whats that?07:05
jribshiner421: yes, now  sudo apt-get update07:06
frogzooNewRhyme: ht is enabled by default07:06
NewRhymeat least , MAKE is NOT on it07:06
slayer03/dev/hdd2            1881        4092     1114471    f  W95 Erw. (LBA)07:06
slayer03how can i mount this partition please07:06
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shiner421gives me an error on line 107:06
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jribNewRhyme: it should be, do you not have internet access?07:06
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nothlit!fstab | slayer0307:06
ubotuslayer03: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions07:06
shiner421oh wait I know07:06
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rausb0slayer03: an extended partition cannot be mounted. its just a container for logical partitions.07:06
nothlitslayer03, , you'll need to know the filesystem07:06
jribshiner421: did you get rid of the line numbers?07:06
NewRhymeYes...I do...but, still NOT installing MAKE because of some error message07:06
neskato23where is hotkeys.conf ?07:07
jribNewRhyme: want to tell us the error message?07:07
shiner421sweet working07:07
slayer03ok07:07
nothlit!fat > slayer0307:07
shiner421I wonder if beryl will not crash my system now07:07
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nothlit!ntfs-3g > slayer0307:07
rausb0slayer03: hdd2 surely contains at least hdd5, maybe hdd6, ...07:07
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NewRhymehold on...let me get it, and, cut and paste...brb07:07
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nourikitche: Taking down the device helped!07:07
knight17clear07:07
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tjb891I have a .iso in my home folder, to mount it i would use sudo mount (filename) -o -loop correct?07:07
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bluei have another question. im using ubuntu on my ppc laptop. when it boots up, there are pink/purple artifacts all over my screen, switching to a vt and back to x fixes the problem. anyone know how to fix the artificats on boot issue?07:08
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grafttjb891: no - before loop07:08
nourikitche: Is there a way to do this automatically when the network is down?07:08
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nothlitshiner421, who helped you edit your sources.list?07:08
tjb891ok07:08
jribtjb891: you need a mount point07:08
shiner421hehe look at that VLC now installs07:08
nothlittjb891, you need to specify the filesystem... its iso96 something07:08
shiner421no one07:08
shiner421I played with it myself :)07:08
kitchenouri: there's a script that you might be able to find I know Fedora Core has something like that I haven't done it myself07:08
shiner421as you can see I know nothing about it07:08
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nothlitshiner421, only keep one distro/version in the list07:09
shiner421k07:09
tjb891i just have a .iso in my home folder, i really have no idea how to use the mount command07:09
nourikitche: What is it looking for again that takes so long?07:09
jribshiner421: oh by the way, those were canadian mirrors, so if you don't live near canada you may want to change that07:09
knight17how can I install KDE in ubuntu?07:09
shiner421I do actually07:09
graftnot that it should matter - old distros should just be superceded by new ones anyway07:09
illu45Could someone please help me out with enabling hyperthreading on a 32-bit install of Edgy?07:09
shiner421I live in Seattle07:09
jrib!kde | knight1707:09
ubotuknight17: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE07:09
kitchenouri: it still thinks the interface is still up most likely07:09
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frogzoowhich is better: initNG - vs - runit   ?07:09
nothlittjb891, http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/cdrecording/07:09
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tjb891thankyou07:10
lozi have done this with kde, but i would stick to gnome if i was you07:10
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lozespecially if you want to use xgl07:10
shiner421ok cool vlc appears to be playing the file but I have no sound07:10
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lozanyone know anything about peer tv, and how to install on edgy?07:11
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shiner421sound worked yesterday07:11
sp0ilermy titlebars and the "window decoration" do not show when I run beryl (on Edgy). rest of the effects are visible. I'm using svn20061215 version of beryl and emerald07:12
sp0iler:(07:12
shiner421is it stable?07:12
shiner421for me beryl was not stable07:12
nothlit!beryl07:12
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:12
shiner421kept causing complete system hangs07:13
shiner421ctrl-alt-backspace wouldnt work07:13
nothlitberyl is pretty stable once you get it working07:13
shiner421but I had a very messed up sources list07:13
shiner421then its just me07:13
shiner421ok just downloaded 33 updates, gonna have to reboot07:13
frogzoowhich is better: initNG - vs - runit   ?07:13
shiner421ill be back, if not shortly, then longly :)07:13
shiner421this is becoming my favorite electronic hangout heeh07:14
Wookstahow do i install mysql / apache / php for ubuntu desktop? ive gone to add remove applications but they arent in the list..07:14
nothlitshiner421, wait, you stuck the breezy cd inside and tried to install stuff from it?07:14
nothlit!lamp | Wooksta07:14
ubotuWooksta: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)07:14
NewRhymeback07:14
NewRhymeNow it can't even find the INSTALL pkg!!!!07:14
NewRhymeinstall: missing destination file operand after `build-essential'07:14
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shiner421no07:14
shiner421I forget is 6.10 breezy?07:15
jribNewRhyme: the command is 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'07:15
NewRhymeNo...will try sudo07:15
jribshiner421: no, 6.10 is edgy07:15
jribNewRhyme: the apt-get part is important07:15
shiner421ok then no edgy is all I have07:15
shiner421finally my kernel images are getting correctly installed!07:15
nothlitNewRhyme, its you know ` is different than '07:15
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shiner421ok rebooting, be back soon07:16
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nothlitshiner421, you have this line #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted07:16
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lozcould anyone guide me on ssh, anyone one no about the no ip adress, with zapato.org?07:16
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SuperLagHow do you uninstall package+package_deps?07:17
SuperLagdoes apt-get remove handle the deps?07:17
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vanbergeobviously the opinion of #ubuntu will be biased, but... what is the best distro to run on a laptop?  (i run ubuntu on my desktop, am getting a new laptop...  and like to try new things.)  :-)07:17
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kitcheSuperLag: apt-get doesn't handle deps aptitude does though but you need to use it to install packages also07:18
jribSuperLag: no, either use aptitude to install and remove or try apt-get autoremove07:18
lozdepends what process you got, centrinos are great with ubuntu07:19
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NewRhymeHey...it worked!!!!!07:19
SuperLagfor laptops, I like Gentoo or Ubuntu... but I'm biased :)07:19
jrib!synaptic | NewRhyme07:19
ubotuNewRhyme: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto07:19
vanbergeloz: yeah, i love ubuntu so i'll probably end up with it.  :-)07:19
jrib!apt | NewRhyme07:19
ubotuNewRhyme: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:19
nothlitSuperLag, apt-get autoremove, but I've heard it doesn't work so well07:19
SuperLagnothlit: oh? do tell07:20
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NewRhymeI was using the "apt-get install XXXX...XXXX", in SU.. (NOT SUDO)07:20
knight17While installing themes it is saying that it is not the correct format.Why?07:20
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ValMarkohi. How can I make firestarter run each time the system boots?07:20
NewRhymeseems to make a differencce!07:20
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mdk1hi there. Just trying Feisty, looks ok. One thing I'd like to solve as a matter of urgency - I can't use ssh as a client. Any ideas?07:20
jribNewRhyme: take a look at the FAQ linked in the topic07:20
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knight17any1 have any ideas??07:20
lozvanberge, i run edgy on my toshiba laptop, it works fine, even beryl i ve got the centrino duo, even wireless works with no messing about07:20
kitchemdk1: ask in #ubuntu+1 that is for Ubuntu development version07:20
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mdk1kitche: I did, without a reply.07:21
jendaThere is a quiz at 20:00 UTC tonight in #ubuntu-trivia! Be sure to attend, and if you're lucky, you might win a prime Ubuntu Poster! (Today's sponsor: rob)07:21
slayer03i do have 2 harddisks the first is for the linux system the second one conatains one vfat partition and asecond  1 that  i converted the a linux partion in this last one i have important files i copied them there and reinstall the system in the first hd , now i mounted the fat32 partition and its fine , but while mounting the second one where i have my files i just have a new linux system with /bin /var dir ...07:21
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slacktyrowhich packages should i install to burn a dvd?07:21
NewRhymeokay...but, would there be ANY reason that SU would make any difference, compared with SUDO and the <root> command?07:21
mdk1jenda: outrageous07:21
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jenda07:21
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vanbergeloz: cool... thx.   Beryl rules!  im running on my desktop.  what ver. you on?07:21
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jribNewRhyme: how did you use su?07:22
slayer03anyone can help me please im getting lost :(07:22
shiner421ok, now where do I find the correct repository for beryl on edgy?07:22
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vanbergeslayer03: i'll try...  hit me07:22
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M3G4cruxhi07:22
knight17SO...no one has a solution..ok I am leaving..thanks07:22
M3G4cruxI am having a problem trying to uninstall a package07:22
jribknight17: what theme?07:22
slayer03vanberge, yes07:22
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jendaHmm... I might have a question for you folks, though... copied my entire / partition to another one... what all do I need to change for it to work right?07:22
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NewRhymejust as a ROOT user...for example...to get to SYNAPTIC dpkg manager...I use "su synaptic"07:23
walterok. installed gnomebaker, can not find doc on how to copy music CD to another CD .. any info ?07:23
lozvanberge: i m on edgy, ubuntu 6.10, the 3 d is amazing, always nice to show are windows friemds!!07:23
jribM3G4crux: what package? what problem?07:23
M3G4cruxI have tried to force it with dpkg --force-all -r but still it does not let me. Package is python-httplib2 and I got it from opensync07:23
slacktyromy k3b is giving problem at module k3bsetup207:23
jribNewRhyme: try to use my name or what you say might get lost in the scrollback.  You aren't using su correctly07:23
slacktyrohow can i fix it?07:23
ryanakcaanybody know of a maintained app simmilar to colorlogs? http://www.resentment.org/projects/colorlogs/index.html   it doesn't seem to color the text...07:23
vanbergeloz: same..   :-)07:23
lozvanberge: i m on edgy, ubuntu 6.10, the 3d is amazing, always nice to show are windows friends the true power of linux1107:23
M3G4cruxit gives me some output, I have commented out the repositories for opensync and tried to fix it by replacing it with the older version but it seems apt-get won't advance while that package is there07:24
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NewRhymejrib...okay07:24
M3G4cruxis there another way to force this package to uninstall?07:24
karimis there a stream server or something like that for music ? I have my music on a pc on the lan, and want to listen it on another computer07:24
nothlitjenda, grub, fstab07:24
jribNewRhyme: su foo  means switch to user foo07:24
vanbergeM3G4crux: did you try to remove from synaptic?07:24
M3G4cruxactually not07:25
M3G4cruxI am going to check that07:25
vanbergeM3G4crux: worht a shot... :-/07:25
jendanothlit: cool, thx07:25
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nothlit!uuid > jenda07:25
slacktyromy k3b is giving problem at module k3bsetup2, how can i fix that?07:25
M3G4cruxit says same thing as apt-get, ERROR please inform, etc.07:26
rapidslacktyro, install it properly07:26
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jribknight17: what theme?  Do you have a link to it?07:26
shiner421ok odd I went to the web and found how to install beryl on edgy, but in the spot where it says to add the repos to my sources.list, it shows the link but has a funny double arrow thingy on it, what is that?07:26
vanbergeslacktyro: k3b is a kde app i think, right?  if nobody here knows, you could probably try #kde-users ?  somebody might know there.  sorry i dont hav emuch exp. with k3b07:26
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slacktyrorapid i installed it using apt-get07:26
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jribM3G4crux: put your error output from apt-get on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url07:26
shiner421and usingg a terminal window it says that beryl itself is not a package I can install07:26
M3G4cruxok07:27
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jrib!beryl | shiner42107:27
ubotushiner421: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:27
unikonanyone in here use ubuntu ANY RELEASE on dial up07:27
h0ndaracer2hello everyone07:27
BlackHawkhi07:27
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slacktyrovanberge: how can i burn dvds, create dvds image through gnome?07:27
unikonk3b07:27
kylehi everybody, is anyone having issues with kopete and hotmail? login with a non-@hotmail.com account fine, but @hotmail ones don't07:27
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kitche!growifs07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about growifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
shiner421thats where I am at ubotu, and it wont work07:27
shiner421I added the repo top my list07:28
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shiner421and when I use the terminal it says cant install bery07:28
shiner421*beryl07:28
jribshiner421: pastebin your new sources.list07:28
slayer03this is a copy of the fdisk output : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37405/07:28
vanbergeshiner421: did you add it using synaptic?07:28
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vanbergeshiner421: you need to do apt-get update to refresh teh repositories07:28
Eclypsehi all07:28
shiner421ahh thanks07:28
nevronhi07:28
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SpiX^who do i close gnome and use console07:29
vanbergeshiner421: hope it works... beryl is awesoem07:29
vanberge:-)07:29
shiner421hmm nope, didnt work07:29
Eclypseanyone know of a really good guide for getting XGL + Beryl working on an ATI card in Edgy? I followed one on ubuntuguide but it didn't work . . .07:29
vanbergeSpiX^:  ctrl alt f107:29
kitcheSpiX^: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:29
vanbergectrl alt f7 to get back07:29
shiner421says package beryl isnot available, but referred to07:29
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SpiX^to start it agen ?07:29
kitcheSpiX^: start instead of stop07:30
SpiX^sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop = stop start ? sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start ?07:30
shiner421im using http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/edgy main as my repo07:30
vanbergeshiner421: open up synatpic once and see if the repository is show there under 'third party'...07:30
wimpiescan anybody *please* help me with my snd modules ... they were working and now complain about unknown symbols and wrong version ?07:30
shiner421and that doesnt seem to work07:30
SpiX^okey i will try now07:30
shiner421it is, but still doesnt work07:30
NewRhymeWell...that helps...thankx JRIB & NOTHLIT07:30
vanbergeshiner421: if it is not, try to re-add it using synaptic.  thts a cleaner way to do it.07:30
NewRhymelaterz for now...07:30
shiner421I dont know how to add it using synaptic07:30
Eclypsewhoa07:30
kitchewimpies: have you done an upgrade lately?07:30
Eclypsenew version of gdm?07:30
Eclypse:S07:30
wimpiesyes i have07:30
shiner421using the software sources link?07:30
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vanbergeshiner421: yep07:31
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SpiX^can i use Xchat then ?07:31
slacktyroi installed k3b through apt-get, it's giving problem at module k3bsetup207:31
slacktyrohow can i fix that?07:31
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wimpieskitche : and it was after the reboot sound no longer worked.  But AFAIK I run only one kernel version and hence do not know where that upgrade might come from07:31
vanbergeshiner421: settings > repositories07:31
eegoreis there a particular reason I cannot control the volume of the individual applications. Anyone have an idea what is causing that07:31
kitchewimpies: well that's your problem the kerbnel was probably upgraded and the modules didn't get upgraded as well07:31
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M3G4cruxok I have pasted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37407/07:31
vanbergeshiner421: then click on 'third party'07:31
shiner421yea its not working07:32
shiner421and now I have screwed up synaptic again :(07:32
nevronhas anyone managed to run beryl dual head with fglrx drivers?07:32
wimpieskitche : probably but afaik all linux modules seem to be ad 2.6.17-10 which match my kernel.  What packages should I check ?07:32
vanbergeshiner421: how?  is it crashing?07:32
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shiner421not crashing, but said errors in my sources list after doing that07:32
Eclypseumm07:32
Eclypseanyone there?07:32
Eclypselol07:32
vanbergeshiner421: are you on normal i386 edgy07:32
shiner421and wouldnt load any packages07:33
jribknight17: what theme?  Do you have a link to it?07:33
M3G4cruxjrib, and when I try to install it I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37408/07:33
shiner421yea07:33
kitchewimpies: see what /lib/modules say in there07:33
Eclypsedoesn't seem like anyone is paying attention to me.07:33
shiner421dont know why but the repo link in the wiki for beryl is no good07:33
Eclypselol07:33
vanbergeshiner421: hold on just a sec.07:33
jribM3G4crux: it's a bug in the package.  What do you need this for?07:33
shiner421quadruple checking my typing07:33
wimpies2.6.16-10-386 and 2.6.17-10-generic.07:33
belfegormy xchat didnt connect on undernet...why?07:34
wimpiesHowever I have some 'restricted' modules that seem stil on 2.6.17-6-107:34
M3G4cruxfor multisync, the version that is supposed to work with Nokia 628007:34
MUTUbelfegor: does it connect to other servers?07:34
M3G4cruxhowever I just mean to uninstall it07:34
belfegoryes07:34
vanbergeEclypse: if you need help, just ask... :-)  people dont say hello because it'll flood te screen07:34
M3G4cruxand as you see it just does not want to :D07:34
shiner421ok removed all beryl references in my sources list07:34
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MUTUbelfegor: what undernet server did you try and connect to?07:34
vanbergeshiner421: now try to add using synaptic07:34
knight17@jrib I tried to install a theme from art.gnome.org07:35
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kitchewimpies: ok it seems like you are using 2.6.16-10 modules still for some reason07:35
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belfegorConnecting to eu.undernet.org (193.109.122.67) port 6667...07:35
Eclypsevanberge I did ask for help . . .07:35
shiner421doing that07:35
belfegorand it doesnt connect07:35
shiner421and got a public key error07:35
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vanbergeshiner421: thats good07:35
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shiner421says no public key available07:35
jribknight17: link me to it, so I can try it.  It usually means it was improperly formatted by the uploaded (but you can still install it)07:35
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vanbergeshiner421: you need to import it07:35
shiner421ok07:35
Eclypsevanberge I was asking if anyone knew of a good guide for setting up beryl with xgl and an ATI card on edgy . . . . the one I tired on ubuntu guide didn't work, perhaps I just need to troubleshoot it or something . . .07:35
Curioho07:35
Curiohi07:35
MUTUbelfegor: try irc.undernet.org07:35
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Curioi v got a problem07:35
wimpieskitche : which packages should I reinstall ?07:35
reverseblade!hi | Curio07:35
ubotuCurio: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:35
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M3G4cruxjrib, do you know any way to force it to uninstall?07:36
shiner421uh oh now my software sources box jsut stoped responding07:36
belfegorlooking up irc.undernet.org it  appear07:36
Curio[[[reverseblade] ] ]  hi07:36
ValMarkoIs there a way to make firestarter run automatikly each time I boot the system?07:36
knight17@ jrib but I was able to install it via the DOS prompt07:36
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vanbergeEclypse: for beryl/xgl you should probably try #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl.  might find more help there07:36
knight17err terminal07:36
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reversebladeValMarko, yes, it is service07:36
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Curiowell my problem is that i cant install ubuntu07:36
jribM3G4crux: pastebin the output from this command: grep -A 100 python-httplib2 /var/lib/dpkg/status07:36
ValMarkoservice?07:36
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Curioi dont know why07:37
reversebladeCurio , specifically ?07:37
kitchewimpies: reinstall the kernel package07:37
wimpieskitche : I really don't get it ... there are NO updates available if I run upgrade but still I have wrong versions ?07:37
elfreakzis there any easy way to install XGL on my ubuntu edgy?07:37
Music_ShuffleCurio, you...will need to be more specific. Lol.07:37
reversebladeCurio, at what stage you have a problem07:37
wimpieskitche : which is ?07:37
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reversebladeelfreakz, forget about XGL, go for AIGLX07:37
vanbergeshiner421: go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy07:37
Eclypsevanberge, I'll be back here if everypone there is afk.07:37
Curio[[[reverseblade] ] ]  well i ve donwload ubuntu and i burned in a cd07:37
reversebladeelfreakz, it is default enabled07:37
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Curio*on07:37
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elfreakzreverseblade, mandriva is using xgl right?07:37
reversebladeCurio, and ?07:37
jribknight17: it's not a DOS prompt, it's a bash prompt probably.  So everything is working for you now?07:37
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elfreakzreverseblade, i want to make ubuntu looks like mandriva, i suspected mandriva using xgl?07:38
shiner421I might have the key import working07:38
kitchewimpies: kerbnel-image-2.6.X.X07:38
reversebladeelfreakz, dunno, but as I said, forget about XGL, edgy has AIGLX built in which is better07:38
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shiner421nope07:38
Curioand i restarted my computer and changed the boot of my computer07:38
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elfreakzreverseblade, AIGLX is build in?07:38
slacktyrohow can i use kde instead gnome?07:38
reversebladeelfreakz, it uses either XGL or AIGLX, dunno which one. just install beryl07:38
kitchewimpies: the X.X is just for numbers sicne I m not sure what kernel-image is in the repos07:38
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belfegorxchat will close now ..report a bug07:38
Curiobut the ubuntu doesnt start07:38
reversebladeelfreakz, yes only in edgy+07:38
Capslock118(13:36:25) Capslock118: ok so i was told mentioned that because I have ubuntu edgy 64bit, I would need to make sure I have xlibs32 and its dependencies installed (to get cedega to run properly)....07:38
Capslock118 how can i check that?07:38
Capslock118 i searched the repositories for xlibs but nothing really comes up but xlibx-dev -data and -static-dev07:38
wimpieskitche : you mean linux-image ?07:38
M3G4cruxjrib, there we go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37410/07:38
kitchewimpies: yes07:38
reversebladeCurio, what happens installation halts ?07:38
elfreakzreverseblade, how do i install beryl without terminal..07:38
vanbergeshiner421: see the line on there about importing the key?  its not formatted very well because it looks like its under the ATI section, but you do have to do it regardless07:39
reverseblade!beryl | elfreakz07:39
ubotuelfreakz: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:39
wimpiesok doing that now ...07:39
Qaishi every one, I'm new in linux at all. But WOW07:39
Curio[[[reverseblade] ] ]  doesnt start07:39
schmirgodoes anyone have a wacom tablet working? wacdump does show the right tablet and Xorg seems to access the tablet but when i move the pen the cursor does not move :/07:39
shiner421that guide still doesnt work for me07:39
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shiner421cannot add the key07:39
reversebladeelfreakz, just go to wiki.ubuntu.com, and search for beryl07:39
elfreakzthanks07:39
ryanakcaanybody know of a maintained app simmilar to colorlogs? http://www.resentment.org/projects/colorlogs/index.html   it doesn't seem to color the text...07:39
shiner421wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - is the error I get07:39
Curio[[[reverseblade] ] ]  seems like the cd was empty but i check the cd and ubuntu is there07:39
reversebladeCurio, what is your computer , hp paviliion ?07:39
slacktyroto change gnome to kde, what do i need to do?07:39
vanbergeshiner421: you did this command?  wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -07:39
Capslock118no one?07:39
LjLUbotu, tell slacktyro about kde | slacktyro, see the private message from Ubotu07:39
unikonhp's are great with linux07:40
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reversebladeno07:40
reversebladeHP Pavilion sucks with linux07:40
Curio[[[reverseblade] ] ]  nop fujitsu siemens07:40
shiner421if I change the -0- to a -o- I get a permission denied error07:40
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shiner421yea that command dont work07:40
reversebladeCurio, processor ?07:40
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reversebladeCurio, does it halt ?07:40
slacktyrothank you LjL07:40
vanbergeshiner421: break it up into 2... do this one first wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O-07:40
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reversebladeCurio, what error message do you get? or only a black screen ?07:40
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Curio[[[reverseblade] ] ]  black screem07:41
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shiner421is that the letter o or the number zero?07:41
vanbergeshiner421: then do this command second:  sudo apt-key add -07:41
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tom__ok, so i accidentally just used gparted to format my ubuntu partition to fat32 from ext 3 so it can not boot, is there a way i can undue this or at least recover the date07:41
LjLslacktyro: if you later want to remove gnome (which is non-trivial theoretically), i suggest you remove the libgnome2.0-0 package - that should take care of most of it07:41
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vanbergeshiner421: just copy and paste it.  :-)07:41
lakinI'm on an AMD Athlon 1600 XP ... which kernel should I be running -386 or -generic? (Edgy)07:41
shiner421it wont copy and paste, just tried that07:41
M3G4cruxjrib, I dont know if you read my message :) I will suppose you did, thanks for your help, I really appreciate07:41
LjLlakin: generic07:41
reversebladeI can solve black screen , but black screem, I dunno07:41
jpjacobstom__, try gpart...07:41
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reversebladelakin, 386, try #kernel07:41
LjL386?07:42
tom__jpjacobs:thats what i used to accidentally destroy it07:42
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lakinreverseblade: why #kernel !??  it's an ubuntu specific question.07:42
jribM3G4crux: ok, /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-httplib2.prerm pastebin that07:42
tom__if i format back again will it bring all the data back07:42
jpjacobsbut if it's possible, copy over the whole disk to a backup first, and work on thta image07:42
LjL!generic07:42
ubotuBackground to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html07:42
reversebladelakin, no it is linux specific question07:42
shiner421ok did it in two pieces, waiting for my terminal to come back07:42
jpjacobstom__, not gpartd, gpart07:42
Curioi mean installation doesnt start.07:42
nevronok people this is the second time i am asking it has anyone managed to run beryl dual head with fglrx drivers?07:42
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tom__jpjacobs:what does gpart do07:42
reversebladeLjL, I consider generic kernels a little problematic07:42
lakinreverseblade: no ... it's an ubuntu specific question ... which of the _Ubuntu_ kernel packages should I be using ..07:42
vanbergeshiner421: 'come back'?  did it close?07:42
shiner421hmm it froze my terminal07:42
Curiodoes the problem07:42
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reversebladelakin, ok sorry, ignore me07:42
Music_Shuffle!generic | lakin07:43
ubotulakin: Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html07:43
shiner421cant explain07:43
shiner421but its froze07:43
shiner421GRRR07:43
lakinThanks Music_Shuffle, LjL07:43
Music_ShuffleBest of luck.07:43
jpjacobstom__, it guesses lost partitions. or you can try testdisk07:43
LjLreverseblade: lakin is right... he could *possibly* find some help in #kernel too, i suppose, but his question was fine for this channel07:43
reversebladeCurio, when opening, push F6,  and add noapic to the end of booting line07:43
vanbergeshiner421: at which command?07:43
tom__ok07:43
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M3G4cruxok jrib07:43
reversebladeLjL, ok I was wrong07:43
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jpjacobstom__, but if it's even remotely possible, use dd to copy over the whole partition/HD to some safe place07:43
shiner421the second one07:43
shiner421it just drops the cursor07:44
shiner421and then nothing happens07:44
nevronhas anyone managed to run beryl dual head with fglrx drivers?07:44
lakinAs an interesting side note ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image...-generic doesn't put in the grub menu.lst entries ...07:44
vanbergeshiner421: it takes a bit07:44
tom__yes it possible07:44
shiner421ahh07:44
vanbergemine did that too07:44
oobeeI have installed a package but can't work out how to make it appear on the menu? can anyone help?07:44
shiner421grabbing a drink then brb07:44
vanbergebrb07:44
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Curioyou mean i restart my computer and i try to install ubuntu again07:44
M3G4cruxjrib here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37413/07:44
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tom__jpjabobs:does the ubuntu 6.06 isntall cd have gpart on it07:44
Curioif problem is there again i push f607:44
vanbergeoobee: what app?  some times apps dont put icons in the menus07:44
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reversebladeCurio, hmm could you install it ? Live CD boots ?07:45
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Curioand i change the las booting line for noapic07:45
thornsI need some help figuring out why ubuntu won't do NAT07:45
shiner421ok its still not responding07:45
lakinFor that matter, neither of them do!?!07:45
LjLlakin: actually, just *installing* it would usually put the entry in the grub menu, here07:45
Curio[[[reverseblade] ] ]  no icant install07:45
oobeevanberge: ekiga07:45
reversebladeCurio, that may work, this is the only reason I see linux kernels not booting on some lappies07:45
thornsI've got the simplest iptables rule and it won't forward packets, all policies are set to ACCEPT07:45
lakinLjL: I just installed it, and it didn't put it.07:45
nevronhas anyone managed to run beryl dual head with fglrx drivers?07:45
reversebladeCurio,  can you boot into live CD ?07:45
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godtviskenI am getting a high pitched noise when recording with audacity, but testing with dd the pitch is not there. What's wrong? I can't check the version number because when I do About Audacity, the characters are just blocks.07:46
jpjacobstom__, i don't know07:46
l3mrlakin: use update-grub07:46
oobeevanberge: Is there must be a gnome menu editor?07:46
Curio[[[reverseblade] ] ]  yep07:46
shiner421still not responding07:46
lakinlakin@area17:~$ sudo update-grub sudo: update-grub: command not found07:46
jpjacobsi know it's on grml for sure :)07:46
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lakinl3mr: update-grub isn't installed ?07:46
nvicfhello there, how can I upgrade from breezy to dapper but having the server version?I don't have graphical interface, should I do that via sources.list like I've read somewhere?07:46
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reversebladeCurio, if you can boot into the Live CD , instllation should have worked07:46
Sneg_  ?07:46
LjL!en | Sneg_07:46
ubotuSneg_: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat07:46
jribM3G4crux: ok, here's the problem.  If you look at the prerm script, it's using pycentral.  pycentral requires you to have a python-version in the package's control file.  This package doesn't do that.  Since you want to remove the package, and it didn't use pycentral when it installed since it errored there too, I would just get rid of that in the prerm script, make it go to the else clause07:46
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l3mrlakin: this is weird, you do have grub installed? ( apt-get install grub )07:46
lakinl3mr: yes07:47
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Curioyes i know but the fact is that does not work07:47
lakinI just --reinstalled it to make certain07:47
LjLlakin: ls /sbin/update-grub <- is it there?07:47
lakinl3mr: and now I have it.07:47
reversebladenvicf, you can search it inthe forums, but a suggestion would be, to alter all "breezy" or "badgers" to "dapper"s07:47
M3G4cruxhmmm lets see if I can do that.07:47
l3mrlakin: oh, sudo update-grub :)07:47
nvicfreverseblade, ahhh any forum in particular?07:47
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Music_Shuffleubuntuforums07:47
nevroncan anybody help me please07:47
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reversebladenvicf, in the source.list file then run, sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:47
Music_Shuffle!help | nevron07:47
ubotunevron: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:47
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fallingdutchsvn co svn://hostname/repos does not work on Ubuntu 6.10 amd64, althought dig hostname retruns the right ip any ideas?07:48
Music_ShuffleErr...07:48
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Music_Shuffle!ask | nevron07:48
ubotunevron: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:48
Vuenheyhey07:48
reversebladenvicf, oh google : ubuntu forums, it rocks, really07:48
lakinl3mr: yeah, I did that the first time ... apparently I managed to remove grub!  wow ... I really need to pay attention when removing packages07:48
shiner421well, I have to go, ill try it again later, thanks a ton for all your help my friends :)07:48
l3mrlakin: yep :)07:48
nevronhas anyone managed to run beryl dual head with fglrx drivers?07:48
Vuenwhat's the command for seeing what version of linux i'm running?07:48
nvicfreverseblade, thanks;)07:48
vanberge!ubotu | ubotu07:48
ubotuubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:48
LjLVuen: lsb_release -a07:48
knight17where can I get a list of all the linux commands?07:48
l3mrlakin: glad it works now. anyway, dpkg-reconfig linux-image should now also call update-grub07:48
LjLknight17: what is a linux command?07:48
reversebladenevron, apparently no07:49
jribM3G4crux: the easiest way to do that would be to  put "false &&" in front of "which python" in the test that if does07:49
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reversebladenvicf, np, this is what "ubuntu" is07:49
VuenLjL: thanks. is there a similar command for seeing what version of gnu tools i'm running? (commands like rm)07:49
lakinl3mr: yeah .. that's what I'm used to.  the partition that I have mounted for '/' doesn't have enough space ... I'll need to fix it this weekend.07:49
M3G4cruxthanks jrib07:49
M3G4cruxjrib thank you very much07:49
godtviskenI am getting a high pitched noise when recording with audacity, but testing with dd the pitch is not there. What's wrong? I can't check the version number because when I do About Audacity, the characters are just blocks.07:49
reversebladenevron, try #ubuntu-xgl07:49
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M3G4cruxI feel in debt with you07:50
LjLVuen: i suppose apt-cache policy coreutils07:50
nevronreverseblade thank you for your help07:50
_alithanks M3G4crux07:50
M3G4cruxand know I have a slight idea of how to proceed when I encounter same problem07:50
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frogzoo!documentation | knight1707:51
ubotuknight17: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com07:51
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M3G4cruxI go back to maple10 to do some calculations for my project. Have a nice day. Good bye07:52
fenrighi07:52
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fenrigcan i ask something07:52
LjL!ask07:52
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:52
reversebladefenrig, oh again07:52
fenrighow do i have to pay cedega???07:52
reversebladelol07:52
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reversebladefenrig, how old are you ?07:52
frogzoo!cedega | fenrig07:52
ubotufenrig: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega07:52
lakinrebooting ...07:52
fenrigi just wanna know07:53
fenrighow07:53
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reversebladefenrig, yeah and I want to know the answer to the life, universe and everything07:53
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jpjacobs42!07:54
reverseblade!4207:54
LjLfenrig: ask in #cedega, or whatever the relevant channel or support place is... it's offtopic for here, i'm afraid07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:54
reversebladelol07:54
DBOreverseblade, dont play with the bot07:54
jpjacobsubotu, botsnack07:54
ubotuYum!07:54
reversebladeDBO, even msn encarta knows 4207:54
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elfreakzi try too instal AiGLX on edgy, update my repository, but it say couldnt fine package beryl07:55
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eegorecan I play chess with the bot?07:55
reversebladeelfreakz, you can't install AIGLX , it is built in enabled07:55
PriceChildreverseblade: you can install AIGLX on edgy07:56
SeveasPriceChild, it's included with the x serer07:56
fenrig!chess07:56
PriceChildreverseblade: there are however most of the AIGLX _extensions_ already in xorg7.107:56
reversebladePriceChild, no07:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:56
elfreakzreverseblade, sudo apt-get install beryl = it say couldn find package?07:56
reversebladeelfreakz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy07:56
fenrigno u cant play chess07:56
Seveas!beryl07:56
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:56
PriceChildelfreakz: add repositories07:56
fenrigwith the bot unless he learns it07:56
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elfreakzPriceChild, already.. i follow the tutorial add repositories..07:57
reversebladeelfreakz, because you have to add its  repos07:57
PriceChildelfreakz: what tutorial?07:57
oobeeIs there a gnome menu editor of some kind?07:57
PriceChildmine?07:57
PriceChildoobee: alacarte07:57
PriceChildoobee: right click your meny and click "edit menus"07:57
oobeethanks07:57
PriceChildoobee: et voila07:57
Seveasoobee, rightclick on 'Applications' in the menu and click "edit menus"07:57
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elfreakzPriceChild, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX07:57
SeveasPriceChild, stop being so fast :p07:58
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CharminTheMoosei'm having a problem with ubuntu dapper drake.I'm trying to get my dell 1450 wireless usb adapter to work with wep encryption,so far I've been able to get it working without encryption but dmesg complains 'eth1:No ipv6 routers' and my adapter is on /dev/eth1.And dmesg says:ndiswrapper: wlan0 can use the folowing types of encryption and it then lists a load of encryption methods including wep. Anyone know how I can make this work?07:58
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PriceChildSeveas: I'll get bored and move on soon :)07:58
Seveashehe07:58
elfreakzPriceChild, this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy only show me to add session startup07:58
PriceChildelfreakz: just checking out that guide for me07:58
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Seveasenjoy the champagne in #ubuntuforums :)07:58
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reversebladeCharminTheMoose, too specific to answer, may I suggest you to disintigrate your question07:59
ScreaminIkeuhm. right. i think this is an issue with x. i pulled out my nvidia to give it to some kid, and now x isn't configged properly. anyone know what i need to edit?07:59
LjLelfreakz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy#head-d7a748b50ee93e622dae8307ba24295ec2ed1f3e07:59
LjLelfreakz: read carefully07:59
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reversebladeScreaminIke, what is wrong with X ?07:59
jendaHow do I tell grub where my root partition is again?07:59
CharminTheMoosereverseblade:you want me to LOOSEN my question?07:59
jendaI thought it was root (0,2) in the grub shell07:59
jendabut that tells me unrecognised device.07:59
SeveasScreaminIke, enter this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserer-xorg07:59
CharminTheMoosefirst time i've heard that07:59
ScreaminIkegives me an error when it tries to launch. i'm in prompts.07:59
PriceChildelfreakz: my personal guide is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851&highlight=beryl+edgy07:59
elfreakzLjL, it didnt have Intel?07:59
frogzoojenda: there's a line 'groot...)08:00
LjLelfreakz: ?08:00
jendafrogzoo: where?08:00
PriceChildelfreakz: I have another version that includes ATI & intel if you would prefer that one?08:00
elfreakzLjL, it only say ATI and Nvia08:00
CharminTheMooseok,I have a dell 1450 wireless usb adapter, how can I get it working via wep?08:00
frogzoojenda: in menu.lst08:00
PriceChildelfreakz: the ubuntu wiki version of my guide is COMPLETELY BROKEN08:00
ScreaminIkethx, seveas08:00
elfreakzPriceChild, will try urs08:00
jendaah08:00
PriceChildelfreakz: what graphics card?08:00
frogzoojenda: after updating, you need to run sudo update-grub08:00
reversebladeCharminTheMoose, I suggest it not ask it. just try to generalize the problem. e.g if I say, my enter key doesnt work after I do ctrl T, why ? . this is too specific and hard to answer08:00
LjLelfreakz: no it mentions Intel too, just not in the "driver installation" part - but that's because the relevant Intel driver is installed by default i guess08:01
ScreaminIkeare you the same seveas that genned all thos metapackages?08:01
Seveasyes08:01
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AbstIn scteen how do I give a name to a window?08:01
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AbstMan says C-a A, how do I do this08:01
ScreaminIkeoh, no. it's scrolled past the command before i could type it. what was that, again, seveas?08:01
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SeveasAbst, C-a is <ctrl>+a08:01
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SeveasScreaminIke, enter this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserer-xorg08:01
knight17By Linux Commands I meant BASH commands (I think I am correct)08:01
jendafrogzoo: thx08:02
SeveasScreaminIke, enter this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:02
PriceChildelfreakz: ?08:02
AbstSeveas: How do I do Ctrl a A then08:02
elfreakzPriceChild, still working on it08:02
Seveas(first one had a typo)08:02
jendafrogzoo: wouldn't root (hd0,0) do it, then? :)08:02
herziwhich package do I use to file bugs about /etc/fstab?08:02
reversebladeknight17, if you are using bash in your terminal, yes, if not no08:02
herzi(package as in launchpad package)08:02
ScreaminIkethx08:02
SeveasAbst, hit <ctrl>a, release it, hit <shift>a08:02
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ScreaminIkethat's REALLY helpful08:02
ScreaminIkei hope :)08:02
jendanvm, thanks frogzoo08:02
AbstThanks Seveas08:02
Abst!08:02
Seveasherzi, depends on the bug08:02
jendaon my way...08:02
elfreakzPriceChild, when adding deb URL.. do i have to start with # ?08:02
PriceChildelfreakz: what make of graphics card? intel?08:02
PriceChildelfreakz: leave out the =08:03
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PriceChild*#08:03
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PriceChildelfreakz: the # means the system skips it08:03
reversebladeelfreakz, in general # means comment it out in linux jargon08:03
elfreakzPriceChild, ok08:03
herziSeveas: "Can't use USB drives" (because /dev/sdb is specified as a cd drive)08:03
Capslock118question08:03
phlite_kontrolhi, i'm having the hardest time getting my ubuntu 6.10 to update, keeps timing out, its like the servers are always busy?08:03
Seveasherzi, usb drives are not to be put in /etc/fstab08:03
herziSeveas: right08:03
LjLphlite_kontrol: might be... try another mirror08:04
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Seveasthey should be recognized when plugged in08:04
herzibut there is this /dev/sdb entry for the cdrom08:04
herzi(and I don't have a cdrom)08:04
phlite_kontrolLjL: how to change mirror?08:04
herziso the usb drive gets /dev/sdb08:04
Capslock118Error: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: could not open...this is what cedega outputs in the console when I try to install a game (WoW). does anyone know what this error means?08:04
reversebladephlite_kontrol, some times it happens, try tomorrow08:04
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herziand then the file system in etc fstab is wrong08:04
Seveasherzi, and that entry was created when?08:04
phlite_kontrolreverseblade: this has happened for like 5 days now08:04
herziand mount claims that it can't mount the pendrive08:04
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herziSeveas: install time08:04
LjLphlite_kontrol: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change the URLs. where it says (for instance) "us.archive.ubuntu.com" you can change that to, say, "ca.archive.ubuntu.com"08:04
Seveasand at install time you had a CD-rom I guess :)08:04
reversebladephlite_kontrol, another good reason to try it tomorrow :)08:04
herzinope08:05
phlite_kontrolreverseblade: lame08:05
herzii installed from a usb pendrive08:05
Seveasahhhhh08:05
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phlite_kontrolLjL: thx m808:05
herzi(that notebook doesn't have a drive like cd/dvd)08:05
reversebladephlite_kontrol, try changing the mirrors08:05
elfreakzPriceChild, after typing wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -, then sudo apt-get update.....08:05
Seveasherzi, mention all that in the bug please and file it against the installer (ubiquity is the graphical installer, debian-installer is the command-line one)08:05
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PriceChildelfreakz: ...08:05
herziSeveas: thank's for your help08:05
elfreakzPriceChild, it say Malformed line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)08:06
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elfreakzPriceChild, whats that?08:06
gubluntuwhat do i type into console to reconfigure my display08:06
=== PriceChild pastebin your sources.list please
PriceChildwhoops08:06
PriceChildelfreakz: stebin your sources.list please08:06
gubluntumy resolution is all suxored08:06
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PriceChildelfreakz: *pastebin your sources.list please08:06
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elfreakzPriceChild, huh? please im newbie... stebin?08:06
PriceChild!pastebni08:06
gubluntuubotu tell elfreakz about pastebin08:06
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PriceChild!pastebin08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebni - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:06
PriceChildthere :)08:07
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ph8hi all, i've got fglrx working (finally) with my 3D card. I have a CRT to the left of my main (laptop) screen. Can anyone help me figure out how to make the laptop screen (on the right) my primary, but with a desktop space that extends to the left (not the same as making both screens one giant desktop)08:07
SeveasPriceChild, the | sytax is helpful as well08:07
Seveas!help | PriceChild08:07
ubotuPriceChild: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:07
ScreaminIkeseveas, uhm. it took me through the reconfig... but it says there are no screens available when i startx... do i need to just let my boot scripts init it?08:07
ph8any help / links to xorg.conf's would be appreciated, the internet seems to know nothing of the issue :/08:07
PriceChildSeveas: hehe yeah sorry :)08:07
PriceChildelfreakz: did you get that?08:07
gubluntuanyone? syntax to reconfigure x11 ?08:07
reversebladeph8,  try #ubuntu-xgl as well08:07
Capslock118Error: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: could not open...this is the error I recieved from cedega when trying to install a game, does anyone know what this error means?08:07
ph8cheers reverseblade08:07
SeveasScreaminIke, did you restart after reconfiguring?08:07
elfreakzPriceChild, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37417/08:08
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ScreaminIkeno. will do. brb08:08
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Graham_CCan anyone help in getting a Belking Wireless-card running under U 6.10 please - or point me to documentation please08:08
reverseblade!wireless |Graham_C08:08
ubotuGraham_C: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:08
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PriceChildelfreakz: the guide tells you to add _one_ line... I will rewrite your addition so that you can compare :)08:08
ubuni rebooted and when i try to play a movie now in mplayer it says 'Error: Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound' and i have no sound! any idea why?08:09
Graham_CMany thanks - going there now08:09
reversebladeCan we contribute to ubotu's index ?08:09
ubuni hear sound in flash still08:09
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LjLUbotu, tell reverseblade about bot | reverseblade, see the private message from Ubotu08:09
PriceChildelfreakz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37418/08:09
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elfreakzPriceChild, wait08:09
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gubluntuhow do i reconfigure my display?08:10
elfreakzPriceChild, just copy and paste then save that in sources.list?08:10
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gubluntuthat dpkg reconfigure thing08:10
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Seveasgubluntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:11
PriceChildelfreakz: If i were you... I would look at the difference first... can you see why your line 35 wasn't correct? (it didn't have edgy main). Can you also see that you had more than one mirror in your sources?08:11
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drkmI've just installed font new fonts..how do I update my fonts cache?08:11
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gubluntuthanks Seveas08:11
PriceChildelfreakz: the "edgy main" part of the line basically tells apt what container on the url to look in08:11
Alarmhello, i just installed the latest jdk succesfully, and when i try to run an application i get the following:  Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...08:11
Alarmls: /usr/java: No such file or directory08:11
AlarmOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy08:11
AlarmYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com08:11
AlarmHow could this be fixed ?08:11
PriceChildelfreakz: but yes...  you can jus tpaste what I gave you back in08:12
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ScreaminIkeno go.08:12
fallingdutchis there a way to get an earlier version of a package08:12
elfreakzPriceChild, I will skip step 2 for nvidia driver right?08:12
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johns^Alarm: sun-java is in multiverse afiak08:12
PriceChildelfreakz: If you are using intel then yes :)08:12
PriceChildelfreakz: stop now though08:12
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jribAlarm: how did you install?08:13
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ScreaminIkeis there any auto-config i can use?08:13
Alarm./jdk...bin08:13
ScreaminIkei think i may be choosing bad options08:13
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Alarmthe installation completed successfuly actualy08:13
elfreakzPriceChild, then what should i see to know its install or what?08:13
godtviskenHow can I downgrade a package?08:13
Alarmwhen running the application i get this message08:13
ubundang last week when i first started coming here people answered every question i had but the last few days i can't even get one question even attempted to be answered :(08:13
PriceChildelfreakz: if you are using intel... then: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy#Intel08:13
jribAlarm: no idea where that goes, use the package in multiverse08:13
PriceChildelfreakz: please PLEASE  make those xorg changes08:13
Music_Shuffle!patience | ubun08:13
ubotuubun: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:13
Music_Shuffle^^08:13
ubuni have patience, just saying ;008:14
ScreaminIkeubun, what do you need? i haven't seen any questions08:14
Music_ShuffleWhen someone has any idea of what's wrong, they'll toss in. ;P08:14
elfreakzPriceChild, looking into it08:14
PriceChildelfreakz: you are on intel aren't you?08:14
ubunscreamline about 1 page up i asked: i rebooted and when i try to play a movie now in mplayer it says 'Error: Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound' and i have no sound! any idea why?08:14
Capslock118i think my repositories are messed up, i see docs for glibc but not glibc itself08:14
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Capslock118does anyone have a link for proper repositories?08:14
jrib!java | Alarm08:14
ubotuAlarm: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository08:14
PriceChildelfreakz: that link i just gave is another version of my guide including all 3 major vendors...08:14
godtviskenHow can I downgrade a package?08:14
ScreaminIketry to pkill esd08:14
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PriceChildCapslock118: what repositories?08:14
ubuni have sound in flash only, not in movies or mp3 players, worked fine before i rebooted08:14
knight17where can i get the list of all the BASH commands08:14
ScreaminIkesometimes that works for me08:14
Capslock118PriceChild: for x64 edgy08:14
ubunknight17 'man bash' should have them08:15
herziSeveas: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/76040 thanks again mate08:15
Alarmjrib:  i did install it. just the application cant find the directory. thats all08:15
elfreakzPriceChild, why the tutorial is using sudo nano??? can i use gedit?08:15
PriceChildelfreakz: replace with "gksudo gedit"08:15
reversebladeelfreakz, yes08:15
Seveassudo gedit08:15
Seveas(gedit fails with gksudo, stupidly enough)08:15
reversebladeelfreakz, nano is more lightweight08:15
jribAlarm: you said you didn't install it through the package manager08:15
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Alarmi used the self extracting bin08:16
PriceChildSeveas: always works fine for me?08:16
ScreaminIkeanyone know how to auto-config  x? like they did in the install scripts? is there a backup of those somewhere?08:16
PriceChildelfreakz: use gksudo if it works... sudo if it doesn't08:16
jribSeveas: wfm too08:16
SeveasPriceChild, always fails for me :)08:16
apokryphosScreaminIke: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic08:16
Seveasand I've heard it fail for others as well08:16
PriceChildScreaminIke: sudo dpkg--reconfigure --phigh xserver-xorg08:16
Seveasso in a 'suitable for n00bs' guide, I'd say sudo :)08:16
ScreaminIkeapokryphos, i'm in commandline08:16
PriceChildhmm ok... well either way, best to use it if it works08:16
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apokryphosScreaminIke: well, you can use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:17
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jribSeveas: and at the same time we recommend gui apps be run with gksudo?08:17
Capslock118i dont understand why when i search glibc, only glibc-docs and -doc reference shows up...what about the actual glibc?08:17
PriceChildapokryphos: my code line before will reconfigure it automatically to first install without any input08:17
PriceChildapokryphos: uses a --phigh flag08:17
elfreakzPriceChild, done... how to see its successful?08:17
Seveasjrib, yes, nice and consistent ;)08:17
jribAlarm: I understand that, I am suggesting you use the packaged java to fix your problem08:17
PriceChildelfreakz: where in the guide are you?08:17
SeveasPriceChild, -phigh (one -)08:17
reversebladeCapslock118, try #linux08:17
apokryphosPriceChild: looks good, no two hyphens though, just one08:17
herzihave a nice evening guys, thanks for the help08:18
elfreakzPriceChild, continue your tutorial for STEP 3 is it08:18
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PriceChildSeveas: apokryphos: sorry...08:18
Capslock118reverseblade: in the console?08:18
knight17is there any way I can read them on windows08:18
Seveasreverseblade, what kind of nonsense is that?08:18
PriceChildelfreakz: probs best to continue guide from the latest link I gave you08:18
Alarmpackaged java from repo is v5 if i am not wrong. there is v6 online08:18
reversebladeSeveas, what is non sense ?08:18
Seveasreverseblade, that question has nothing to do with #linux and a lot with #ubuntu08:18
elfreakzPriceChild, aight08:18
PriceChildAlarm: No.... freezes keep things stable08:18
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SeveasCapslock118, the glibc package is called libc608:18
jribCapslock118: libc6 is what you are looking for.  Actually you probably just want to install build-essential08:19
LjLCapslock118: long story short, libc6 = glibc08:19
reversebladeSeveas, well I thought the reverse, since no one is responding, I thought guiding that way would be more convenient08:19
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Seveasreverseblade, not at all08:19
PriceChildAlarm: only high priority bugfixes/security updates are applied to a releases08:19
Seveasit's very ubuntu specific08:19
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reversebladeSeveas, ok apologies, I was wrong08:19
sobersabreguys, does anybody here run ubuntu on an intel core 2 duo macbook  ?08:19
Alarmok08:19
Capslock118ok, well, does that mean I have to do something to cedega for it to know to look for libc6 and not glibc?08:19
Seveas!anyone | sobersabre08:19
ubotusobersabre: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:19
SeveasCapslock118, no08:19
PriceChildSeveas: I love that anyone message :)08:19
LjLCapslock118: are you sure it's looking for libc6 and not for the build tools and includes? (i.e. build-essential and friends)08:20
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Capslock118here is the error message "/root/.cedega/.winex_ver/winex-5.2.8/bin/winex3: 160: /root/.cedega/.winex_ver/winex-5.2.8/winex/bin/pthreads_stack_test: not found08:20
Capslock118[: 160: 0: unexpected operator08:20
Capslock118/lib/ld-linux.so.2: could not open08:20
Capslock118"08:20
sobersabreI am checking macbook before i buy it I'd like to see how well its hardware supported...08:20
LjLUbotu, tell Capslock118 about paste | Capslock118, see the private message from Ubotu08:20
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sobersabreso... does somebody/anybody have a macbook with intel cpu and runs ubuntu ?08:21
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ph8Seveas: I appear to have dual screen fglrx in the way i wanted finally, one weird thing though - when i run glxgears and/or play a movie, the right half appears on the left, and the left is outside the window08:21
LjLCapslock118: that just looks like that shell script is bad, to me... perhaps08:21
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PriceChild!anyone | sobersabre08:21
ubotusobersabre: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:21
LjL!dash | Capslock11808:21
ph8not overlapping outside, just off the left side08:21
ubotuCapslock118: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"08:21
ph8ever heard of anything like that?08:21
SeveasCapslock118, that's an error with cedega, poke them :)08:21
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phlite_kontrolLjL: changing the mirror worked, thx08:21
LjLphlite_kontrol: cool08:21
Seveasph8, server layout being weird?08:21
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Capslock118ok so, yeah i heard i need to be under bash to get it to work, and i think i am under sh08:22
ph8in what way? i wouldn't have thought it could influence where things are displayed in their own window?08:22
Seveasph8, it was just a wild guess :)08:22
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Capslock118how do i change cedega to use bash and not dash?08:23
emiliaanyone know how to restore my default network settings ? i think i screwed them up big time08:23
Capslock118or is that a console thing?08:23
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PriceChildemilia: running gnome?08:23
rag_please help me , hi *08:23
rag_please help me , hi *08:23
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rag_ why a rt61 wifi card not works command dhclient ra0?08:23
PriceChildemilia: And which settings in particular?08:23
emiliaPriceChild:  yes08:23
reversebladeemilia, probably you can use System > Administration > Networking08:23
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emiliaPriceChild:  i was trying to do internet connection settings08:23
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PriceChildemilia: what reverseblade said08:23
emiliaPriceChild:  i was trying to do internet connection sharing**08:24
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PriceChildemilia: ubuntu as gateway? or connecting?08:24
ph8Seveas: bizarrely, if i move my mouse to the far left (if it's playing on the left screen) the whole thing centres08:24
reversebladeemilia, or you can tweak /etc/network dir manually08:24
ph8but moves off to the left again as soon as i move away08:24
Capslock118ubotu: do i chance the console to directly use bash or do I tell cedega to use bash in some way?08:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about do i chance the console to directly use bash or do I tell cedega to use bash in some way? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:24
dabaR_sobersabre: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuonMactel08:24
emiliaPriceChild:  2 ubuntu computers, one cable modem, no router08:24
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klassicdhow would you rename all files in a directory to use a max name length of 64 but keep the first part of the filename in tact and the 4 character extension (.mp3 or .ogg)08:24
emiliaPriceChild:  but both computers cant see eachother, and it was working amazing with windows :( i dont know what id id wrong08:24
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PriceChildemilia: so modem -> ethernet -> ubuntu -> ethernet -> ubuntu ?08:25
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elfreakzPriceChild, i think i have problem with STEP 408:25
emiliaPriceChild: yes08:25
HuibertGillklassicd: see "man cut" and a bit off bash scripting08:25
cyziehello, previuosly im having grub error 17. i have done this by fixmbr using windows xp recovery disk. but i see no more grub boot loader. anyone can help?08:25
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PriceChildemilia: The same settings on both computers "should" work... is neither working?08:25
PriceChildelfreakz: /me looks08:25
elfreakzPriceChild, it say edit the xorg.conf, add this to section "Screen"08:25
klassicdlooking HuibertGill thanks08:26
elfreakzPriceChild, in which part do i have to add starting from # Enable 32-bit ARGB GLX Visuals......08:26
PriceChildelfreakz: don't do that08:26
reversebladecyzie, try #grub as well08:26
PriceChildelfreakz: don't do either of those....08:26
ubunanyone know why i only have sound in flash, not in my mp3 players or movie players? (yes i have mp3 codecs installed) mplayer says "could no open/initialize audio device"08:26
emiliapricechild : they could both see eachother before, cause i was ftp'ing from one to the other, but when i tried to enable connection sharing, it screwed up, now i cant even ftp or vnc08:26
elfreakzPriceChild, dont do that.. ok08:26
cyziereverseblade, no answer there08:26
elfreakzPriceChild, so then i skip it08:26
PriceChildelfreakz: I don't think you need ARGB, i think that's nvidia only08:26
crimsun_ubun: are you using Flash 9 beta 2 from backports?08:26
PriceChildelfreakz: don't use triplebuffer - definately not needed08:26
godtviskenCan anyone help? I get a high pitched ringing noise when I record somethin in audacity. I do hear what I actually recording, but a rining is underneath. I have tested with dd and it's not the microphone (no ringing there). What's wrong?08:26
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PriceChildelfreakz: although if it doesn't work without ARGB then try with it on08:27
reversebladegodtvisken, you asked this may be an hour ago08:27
dabaR_cyzie: you can look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows that shows what to do.08:27
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godtviskenreverseblade: so?08:27
PriceChildemilia: so neither pc can connect to the net?08:27
Capslock118how do i move to bash in the console?08:27
reversebladegodtvisken, nothing, I just remembered :)08:27
ubuncrimsun_ im using flash 7, dapper08:27
jribCapslock118: default is bash08:27
emiliaPriceChild: no one can, this one im now, which hosts the cable modem08:27
ubunsound was working fine before but it just stopped after i rebooted08:27
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godtviskenreverseblade: ok08:27
cyziedabaR_, have tried there. no help08:27
reversebladecaplink811_log, bash   ?08:27
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jribCapslock118: (as you login shell, if that is what you are asking)08:28
reversebladeCapslock118, type bash08:28
emiliapricechild : brb08:28
PriceChildemilia: could you check system>admin>networking to see what settings are there and if there's any obvious silly things?08:28
PriceChildok08:28
ubundo i have to 'chmod 777 /dev/dsp' or something08:28
dabaR_cyzie: that page tells what to do. What do you mean?08:28
crimsun_ubun: no, use the version in dapper-backports08:28
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bradleyhi. i have this weird issue-- my panel freezes if i right click on the bubbles in the window list. has anyone else had this problem? how is it fixed?08:28
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ubuncrimsun_ but im saying flash sounds *works*, it's other sound that doesnt08:28
j2daoshwhat is up people? i just built a c2d system yesterday. I attempted to install dapper (only cd i had at the moment) but it kept freezing. I'm reading that ubuntu does,'t currently have "proper" support for a c2d system on a intel 965 chipset board... is this correct? am i going to have to go to redhat/suse/debian?08:28
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mirkashhi, I have problem with Xorg, it consumes lot of cpu time 70%08:29
elfreakzPriceChild, thanks i got it already :)08:29
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cyziedabaR_, didnt help08:29
ph8hmm, bit of an enigma :/08:29
dabaR_cyzie: what did you do?08:29
PriceChildelfreakz: you got teh wobbly? :)08:29
ph8Seveas: do you reckon i need to recalibrate xine in some way?08:29
crimsun_ubun: flash 7 is oss-based. It will prevent other apps from opening the sound device if your hardware doesn't support multiopen.08:29
ph8although, does glxgears use xine?08:29
Capslock118"ubotu" " You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash" -- if that is the case, and bash is my default console, then why would what ubotu said apply?08:29
elfreakzPriceChild, yeah its like red thinggy color, and i can move the 3D thinggy08:29
Seveasph8, it does not08:29
ubuncrimsun_ but that doesnt explain why my other apps were playin sound fine all week, until now08:29
ubuni had flash installed the whole week too08:29
j2daoshwhat is up people? i just built a c2d system yesterday. I attempted to install dapper (only cd i had at the moment) but it kept freezing. I'm reading that ubuntu does,'t currently have "proper" support for a c2d system on a intel 965 chipset board... is this correct? am i going to have to go to redhat/suse/debian?08:30
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cyziedabaR_, before the moment install windows vista on the laptop, it complain not enough disk space. then i abort the installation and then reboot, i got the error 17. then i use win xp recovery disk to fixmbr. now no more grub bootloader and straight away boot into windows xp08:30
jribCapslock118: I said it was your default login shell.  That's not the same as what /bin/sh points to.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash  if you want to use bash all the time instead of dash08:30
crimsun_ubun: no, it doesn't, but the easiest way for me to troubleshoot is to ask you to update to the version of flash that supports alsa natively08:30
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PriceChildelf... open up beryll-settings-manager... go to the animations tab, and change "Close Effect 2" to "Burn" ;)08:30
dabaR_cyzie: and yuo say you followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, which instructions in there did you follow? there are 3 sets.08:30
ubuni installed alsa-oss which was supposed to fix it but it didnt :[ guess ill have to, im just gonna upgrade to edgy, cant stand 'stable' anymore it's not so stable :p08:31
ubundebian is backwards08:31
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Capslock118jrib: thank you08:31
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crimsun_ubun: alsa-oss is a hack. You do not need to dist-upgrade to edgy. Just enable dapper-backports.08:31
HuibertGillubun: debian is "the core"08:31
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cyziedabaR_, currently in the laptop, i have windows xp home edition and debian etch. does the link help :(08:31
ubuncrimsun_:  ok08:32
ubun!backports08:32
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports08:32
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dabaR_cyzie: what are you saying, that your ubuntu got erased, or that you are missing the grub? cause the link shows how to recover grub after fixmbr erases it.08:32
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mirkashhi, I have problem with Xorg, it consumes lot of cpu time 70%08:33
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cyziedabaR_, i never got ubuntu in my laptop. only windows xp and debian etch08:33
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Caco_PataneHallo08:33
dabaR_cyzie: OK, so then you need to talk to people in #debian, and keep that link as a reference if you do not get anything better,.08:33
ubuncrimsun_: if i was recommending to my friend to install ubuntu and he wanted the latest software should i tell him to install edgy or to install dapper and then enable backports?08:33
Caco_Pataneis there any file in witch i can specify some commands to run when i boot the system?08:34
PriceChildubun: Edgy :P08:34
ubunCaco_Patane: system->administration->sessions i think08:34
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frogzooCaco_Patane: /etc/rc.local should do it08:34
Capslock118this is what i get now "1. root@joel-desktop:/home/joel# cedega 2. /root/.cedega/.winex_ver/winex-5.2.8/bin/winex3: line 143: /root/.cedega/.winex_ver/winex-5.2.8/winex/bin/pthreads_stack_test: No such file or directory 3. /root/.cedega/.winex_ver/winex-5.2.8/bin/winex3: line 144: [: -gt: unary operator expected"08:34
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Capslock118does anyone know what that means?08:35
ubunis it possible to switch to kubuntu edgy from within dapper and have it be as clean as doing a fresh install?08:35
jribCapslock118: why not ask cedega for support?08:35
dabaR_Caco_Patane: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh08:35
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Capslock118i am doing both08:35
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PriceChildCapslock118: please ask cedega for support08:36
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PriceChildCapslock118: because of course you have bought it legally.... you therefore have support from them in their forums08:36
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Curs0rPriceChild, rofl08:36
PriceChildCurs0r: :)08:36
nvicfhow can I know in an intel dual core if ubuntu is using both?08:36
PriceChildnvicf: are you on gnome?08:37
ubunif i ssh to somewhere and i accidently enter the wrong password, will the sysadmin of that ssh server get to see the password i entered? or is it encrypted08:37
Curs0rfunny thing about cedega, i bought it years ago and i have never used it08:37
Capslock118PriceChild: Yes, I have been going through them as well, I am just trying to get support from both ends if anyone knew08:37
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Curs0rnvicf, cat /proc/cpuinfo08:37
cyzietanks dabaR_08:37
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nvicfPriceChild, no, no graphical iface08:37
SaxofonerHello everyone08:37
SaxofonerI'm having some apple troubles....08:38
nvicfCurs0r, yes but it doesn't say anything special, that's the info from the model08:38
Saxofonerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31960608:38
dabaR_ubun: they will not see it if everything is legit.08:38
SaxofonerAnybody else seen this?08:38
dabaR_cyzie: you are welcome08:38
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SaxofonerNautilus just collapses when I boot08:38
Curs0rnvicf,  but does it have the info for 1 proc or 2?08:38
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Curs0rnvicf, my x2 outputs info for 2 cpus08:39
dabaR_Saxofoner: did you run your laptop out of battery lately?08:39
PriceChildnvicf: top maybe?08:39
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Curs0rnvicf, so did my old intel 63008:39
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dabaR_Saxofoner: check the date and time in the console08:39
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aceHi all08:39
SaxofonerdabaR_: It is the time.08:39
acei just installed it with software raid08:39
nvicfPriceChild, only one cpu on top08:39
tom__i just reformated my linux partitian by accident, what should i do to get my data back?08:39
aceand its slow :(08:39
nvicfCurs0r, what?08:39
mirkashkilling the firefox solved it, hm08:39
SaxofonerIn mac, or linux, the clock is screwed. dabaR_08:39
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nvicfmmm probably because I'm using  2.6.12-9-386 #08:39
ace Timing buffered disk reads:   96 MB in  3.02 seconds =  31.78 MB/sec    :O     x_x08:40
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PriceChildnvicf: definately not if you're on 386 then....08:40
acewhy is it so slow?08:40
PriceChildnvicf: what ubuntu version?08:40
Curs0rwas there something confusing about what i said?08:40
PriceChilddapper/edgy?08:40
SaxofonerIs there a way to set the system clock w/o just setting the clock in gnome?   dabaR_08:40
nvicfIt's breezy 5.10 but I've done dist-upgrade08:40
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PriceChildnvicf: you need a -smp kernel AFAIK08:40
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PriceChildI g2g for a bit08:41
XiXaQHow can I boost the microphone?08:41
phonoxAnyone using T43p firegl V3200 here?08:41
nvicfPriceChild, yes, trying to install one heh08:41
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SaxofonerdabaR_:   Do you happen to know the terminal commands to set the system clock?08:41
zGraphSaxofoner Doesn't "date" work for that?08:41
Curs0rnvicf, the generic kernel supports smp08:41
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dabaR_Saxofoner: two things...to permanently fix the clcok issue, have the cord pluygged in for 24 hours. sudo date --set="Jan 4 2006"08:41
nevroncan you please tell me which channel serves for beryl08:41
SaxofonerzGraph:   I've tried that, but it seems to not stay.08:42
dabaR_#ubuntu-xgl08:42
nvicfCurs0r, yes?but it doesn't show anything08:42
cedric30if I have set this option on my xor.conf Option      "Composite" "disable" I have not anymore AIGLX? So to make running beryl I had to install XGL ?08:42
cedric30?08:42
nevronthanx a lot08:42
Curs0rnvicf, what doesn't show anything?08:42
SaxofonerdabaR_:   I think you just saved me.  Thanks a lot.08:42
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SaxofonerBecause I had drained the batt. recently.08:42
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dabaR_same here:))08:43
dabaR_is it the exploding one?08:43
SaxofonerdabaR_:  and zGraph,   THANKS GUYS!08:43
zGraphSaxofoner: I didn't do anything really :)08:43
Curs0rnvicf, I was also using the 386 kernel by mistake, I was choosing the default boot option in grub but there was an entry for generic the whole time08:43
atlefnvicf : in top press 1 i think to show08:43
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zspada15!shortcuts08:44
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net08:44
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fharadHow do I put an ISO file onto a USB stick so it is stored in the same way as a CD?08:44
zGraphdabaR_: What'ye mean with having the cord plugged in for 24 h?08:44
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bozukarobwhat format should i use for ubuntu08:45
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frogzoofharad: mount the iso as a loopback, then copy across08:45
frogzoo!loop08:45
bozukarobNTFS/fat/fat3208:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:45
karimdoes anyone uses tv out ? I don't know how to modif the screen size for AtI08:45
Curs0rbozukarob, can you be a little more specific?08:45
christianefharad: Do you want to boot from it?08:45
frogzoo!iso | fharad08:45
ubotufharad: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.08:45
nvicfCurs0r, I'm trying to install smp image08:45
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bozukarobi want to choose at boot08:45
fharadchristiane : yes08:45
atlefnvicf : in top press 1 i think to show08:45
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Curs0rbozukarob, you want to choose what at boot?08:46
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Curs0rnvicf, check /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if you have an entry for generic08:46
nvicfatlef, it shows cpu0 and cpu(s)08:46
bozukarobwhen im partitioning my hdd what file system type should i set08:46
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atlefnvicf : when you press 1?08:47
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Curs0rbozukarob, etx3 = stability, reiserfs = performance08:47
frogzoobozukarob: ext3 (83), & 82 for swap08:47
nvicfatlef, yes08:47
kane77damn... you know what I realised?? the 6.10 is out...08:47
bozukarobthanks cursor08:47
atlefok08:47
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Curs0rbozukarob, no worries08:47
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kane77man I somehow overslept that :D08:48
dabaR_zGraph: that is how some battery on the motherboard gets charged, I was told here, and it worked.08:48
nvicfatlef, are those the two proc?08:48
kane77I remember when I was waiting for the final release of 6.06...08:48
nvicfmm seems not08:48
Wookstaive just installed ubuntu for the first time, installed nvidia-glx from the add remove pacakges but when i do sudo nvidia-glx-config i get the error "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel."  can anyone help?08:48
Curs0rnvicf, you should see full output for 2 processors08:48
dabaR_Wooksta: edgy?08:49
atlefnvicf : do the have the same info, or do the differ08:49
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atlef*they08:49
Curs0r!pastebin08:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:49
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WookstadabaR_ edgy?08:49
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kane77when was the final release of edgy eft released?08:49
dabaR_Wooksta: install linux-restricted-modules-386 if you have ubuntu 6.1008:49
nvicfi'm restarting08:49
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zGraphWooksta: He wonders what ubuntu version you're using08:50
atlefnvicf : ok08:50
WookstadabaR_ yah im using 6.10 sorry didnt know it was called edgy :P do i need to isntall that if im on 64bit?08:50
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dabaR_kane77: check out the sidebar on the bottom right of this page: http://www.ubuntu.com08:51
dabaR_Wooksta: no, -generic08:51
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Wookstais that an option for apt-get?08:51
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dabaR_                linux-restricted-modules-generic08:51
Wookstaoh sorry :P08:51
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mnoir!generic08:52
ubotuBackground to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html08:52
novatowow08:52
christianefharad: I don't think you can boot CD-ISOs from USB, do you? You need a MBR like on a HD, I think.08:52
novatoa lot people08:52
novatoin this channel08:52
novatocool08:52
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HyperDevilcan i set the output of a command into a variable ? ls -al >> $output08:54
WookstadabaR_ i get this "linux-restricted-modules-generic is already the newest version." when i do "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic"08:54
DBO***There will be a classroom on the Linux Kernel for newbies in #ubuntu-classroom in 5 minutes***08:54
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HyperDevily bass guitar, on the other hand is a beauty.08:55
HyperDevilcan i set the output of a command into a variable ? ls -al >> $output08:55
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Curs0rHyperDevil, it think its $(output)08:55
HyperDevilCurs0r: why ()?08:55
Curs0rlike apt-get install linux-restricted$(uname -r)08:55
cyziehello, when i apt-get for new kernel, i remembered 2 files need to apt-get . 1 is linux-image-2.6.x but i cant recall the other 1. anyone got any idea?08:56
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georoverHyper: try $output=`command`08:56
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HyperDevilthe $output variable is not excisting.. i want to put the output of several commands into a variable..08:56
hdibaniHyper: $output=`command` is what u need08:57
HyperDevilhdibani: this will not work for.. can i redirect the output of a commando to a variable?08:57
HyperDevilinstead of making a variable a command08:57
Curs0rHyperDevil,  you might need to look into bash scripting for that08:58
HyperDevili am working in a bash script08:58
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georoverHyper: what do you mean by "several commands" into the variable?08:58
HyperDevili have 30 cp commands, and i want the output (if something goes wrong in the copying) into 1 variable, so i can mail it every night to see if the backup went ok08:59
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kane77why was upgrade to dapper so much more discussed and longed for?? (or was it just past few months I was deaf and blind??) :D08:59
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georoverhyper: try command1>file09:00
georoverthen command2 >> file09:00
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georoverthen mailx -s "subject" < file09:00
HyperDevilthats cool, but i dont want to create a file.. is it possible to take the output of all those commands in one variable?09:00
georoveror similar mail tool09:00
nvicfdamn it booted with the old one09:00
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georoverwellllll, $outout=`command1`09:01
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nvicfthe dault09:01
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georoverthen $output=${output}`command2`09:01
georoverad nauseum09:01
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kosnickcan i format a disk as ntfs from ubunut? i already have ntfs-3g for writing to it09:02
mumrahi'm trying to dual boot windows and ubuntu and i'm having some difficulties with windows09:02
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HyperDevilgeorover: then im putting a command into a variabel.. thats actually the other way around.. and requires me to rewrite my hude backup script09:02
HyperDevilhuge09:03
DBO***There will be a classroom on the Linux Kernel for newbies in #ubuntu-classroom in 0 minutes***09:03
georoveryou want to execute the contents of the variable?09:03
mumrahwindows says the disk does not have a valid partition even though i've formated it to fat32 in ubuntu09:03
HyperDevilno i want the output of a commando into a variable with the variable=command09:03
georoverto do that you use eval09:04
HyperDevilwithout09:04
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j2daoshanyone running a c2d system with ubuntu?09:05
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s1gmaj2daosh: yes I do09:05
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j2daoshintel 965 board?09:05
Nookie^hi! i have used my wireless before and now i cant use it anymore... i can connect to the network and i get an ip... I can also ping my router but i can go surf around on internet... any ideas??09:05
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j2daoshno route set?09:06
georoverhyper: so output=`command` assigns the output of the command to variable named output09:06
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clayghey, whats a good gps app for ubuntu?  something with a map09:06
s1gmaj2daosh: No it's a cheap and nasty upgrade : Asrock with DDR : but I have 2 raid0 arrays09:06
rrichar1nookie try `sudo dhclient`09:06
stefgNookie^: look at your /etc/resolv.conf, ig there's a valid name-server entry09:06
georoverthen output=${output}`command` tacks the output of the second command onto the variablr named output09:07
HyperDevilgeorover: i see your point, you are right.. but i want to do it the other way around actually09:07
s1gmaj2daosh: kubuntu takes 15seconds to boot09:07
HyperDevilcp bla bbla1 >> $output09:07
j2daoshi cant get it to even load the livecd....09:07
HyperDevilgeoreover: and $output is just a variable.. not a file09:07
j2daoshhangs on trying to mount the filesystem.... no jmicron support apparantly09:08
j2daoshs/apparantly/apparently09:08
georoverhyper: I see, you've been using a file, now want to switch to a vaiable09:08
s1gmaj2daosh: what filesystem are you using ?09:08
j2daoshwhatever the livecd uses...09:08
j2daoshiso9660?09:09
HyperDevilgeorover: actually there is no file, i just want the output to a variable and send the variabel via mail.. so no file creation09:09
Nookie^stefg: Yes i see there is my router ip09:09
s1gmaj2daosh: what I mean is what disks are you trying to install the livecd to09:09
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j2daoshjust a 250 gig harddrive off the primary ide...09:10
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Nookie^rrichar109:10
Nookie^rrichar109:10
Nookie^thanx DUDE09:10
Nookie^it worked09:10
j2daoshthey are pata's so i was kinda screwed when i did the upgrade09:10
rrichar1I just installed the latest fglrx (8.32.5) and now it seems that direct rendering is disabled in my XGL session, it appears to be working in my regular gnome session any ideas?09:10
j2daoshall 6 of my big drives are pata09:10
georoverwell, the >> operator is a file operator you'll have to so some kind of x=x+y thing. The varianle has to be on the left hand side of the assignment operator09:10
rrichar1nookie: np09:10
stefgNookie^: i assume that DNS is not working in your case.. specify another DNS server as well, to see if your routers' DNS service fails09:10
mjrrrichar1, that's normal, XGL doesn't do direct rendering from clients09:10
j2daoshand my pci ide controller isn't recognized... so all the data i backed up before the upgrade can't be used09:11
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s1gmaj2daosh: what error are you getting and where ?09:11
ThurynI'll find out09:11
rrichar1mjr: beryl seems to be operating very slowly since uppgraded fglrx09:11
j2daoshno error, hangs on mounting filesystem off the cd09:11
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Letohi09:12
sysrageif you put the backports 'repo' in your sources.list should you -always- use it? or is it ok to enable it, install something you want from it, then disable it?09:12
j2daoshit wont even boot up to the live part09:12
HyperDevilgeorover: pretty pain in the ass hehe, maybe there is another command that does do this?09:12
s1gmaj2daosh: Oh ic09:12
ph8Seveas: FYI, xine needs me to pass in -V xshm to play videos correctly -> found it @ http://www.penlug.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LinuxHardwareInfoATIRadeonX80009:12
j2daoshsysrage, if you want upgrades to your app... leave it on there09:12
ph8i wonder if i can mod ubuntu to always pass that in on start09:12
sysragej2daosh: so it won't effect any packages that didn't come from it?09:12
christianeHello. I installed fglrx-driver to run an X1300/X1400 ATI on ubuntu 6.10. I followed the steps described in the wiki pages (composite, overlay ...), but when I run `fglrxinfo` it says "penGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org". Maybe that's correct but I only get abou 10 fps when watching video. What to chekch first?09:12
j2daoshnope09:13
sysrageok good. thanks09:13
s1gmaj2daosh: Could be a number of things !09:13
rrichar1has anyone seens slowness in xgl since upgrading the fglrx driver?09:13
ph8christiane: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?09:13
georoverI was just playing with it in a terminal, you lose all the line feeds when you send the output to the variable anyway09:13
georovernot very effective for emailing09:13
HyperDevilgeorover: aargh, because if i have to edit this script that way i have to edit about 900 lines of code :P09:13
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j2daoshwell from what i have heard s1gma is that ubuntu doesn't support the jmicron raid controller yet09:14
s1gmaj2daosh: Theres always a way round09:14
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s1gmaj2daosh: http://whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/621808.html09:14
eilkerworking with vmware server,  i wanna install fedora as guest os, my os is kubuntu , but my pc doesnt have dvd player , but my laptop has it, any solution for it ?  can i mount the dvd player to my pc ? lan is enabled already09:14
sysrageok then if i installed gaim from the normal repo, how do i upgrade to the one in backports? (i'm assuming backports has beta 5 in it?)09:15
georoverhyper: that's what perl is for!09:15
s1gmaj2daosh: have you got any raids already set up ?09:15
andrejHi, what's the recommended way to upgrade from breezy to edgy?09:15
christianeph8: xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/28143109:15
sysrageeilker: could do a kickstart (network install)09:15
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j2daoshnone... mobo only has support for 2 pata devices... so i have one hard drive and my dvd-burner09:15
stefgandrej: to back up your settings and reinstall.... me personally would not recommend an attempt09:16
j2daoshtill i can get my pci ide controller working im kinda screwed09:16
j2daoshit doesn't even work with windows...09:16
ZeZuanyone have ubuntu running on PS3 ?09:16
eilkersysrage: so will it see the dvd palyer ?09:16
HyperDevilgeorover: if i have 30 cp commands and edit all the cp commands to output=cp .. etc.. does every cp then overwrite the variable?09:16
andrejbother ... so, if I have home on a separate partition, I just need to remember my network settings and go for it? :)09:16
sysrageeilker: nevermind. if you don't get what i just said pretend i didn't say anything at all09:16
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stefgandrej: read about dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections09:16
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andrejstfg: will do, ta09:17
andrejstefg even09:17
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tsolerhello to all09:17
rrichar1has anyone installed the latest fglrx (8.32.5)?09:17
eilkersysrage: ok, nevermind, i didnt ask anything too at all09:17
tsolerguys need some help09:17
georoverhyper: yes, do VAR=${VAR}`command`09:17
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tsoleranyone willing to help?09:18
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georoverthat will appand the output09:18
georoverafk09:18
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linux_kidWhere are Palm Devices mounted? (ex. like /dev/ttySO)09:18
HyperDevilgeorover: with or without the {}?09:18
tsolercan someone guide me to see my ntfs?09:18
mnoir!ntfs09:19
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:19
sysragehow do i find out what version of an app will be installed if i use apt-get install whatever ?09:19
tsolerthanks mnoir09:19
rrichar1for read/write ntfs see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700909:19
tsoleris it easy?09:19
mnoirtsoler: TIAS09:19
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tsolerwhats that lol?09:20
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linux_kidsysrage "sudo apt-get -v"09:20
mnoirtry it and see09:20
HyperDevilgeorover: with or without the {}?09:20
tsolerok09:20
tsolerthanks a lot09:20
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sysragelunux_kid: i don't want the version of apt-get. i want the version of the thing i'm gonna install09:21
DARKGuyhi, how do I set up smbmnt to be setuid? LinNeighborhood says that when I try to mount a shared folder09:21
mnoirsysrage: use synaptic and turn on the package details09:21
DARKGuy*setuid root09:21
linuxgoobercan i upgrade to edgy from dapper by changing my sources.list from the dapper list to the edgy list and running an upgrade?09:21
sysragemnoir: no easy way to tell from CLI?09:21
MikeD_how do i fix what i think may be a broken filesystem?09:21
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linux_kidsysrage: install the package and then type "sudo {app name} --help" and find what to type for the version09:21
georoverhyper: the {} isolate the variable from the rest of the line, they're probably optional but safet09:22
mnoirsure there is - start with > man apt-get - it has to be ib there somewhere09:22
mnoirib = in09:22
mnoir:(09:22
stefgDARKGuy: I chose fusesmb after messing around  with problems like that ... even if this is not an answer to your question09:22
rrichar1has anyone had success installing the latest fglrx 8.32.5?09:23
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sysragedamn. doesn't look like gaim beta5 is even on the repos.. that's weak09:23
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stefg!fusesmb09:23
christianephonox: My answers to your priv msgs are blocked. I don't need any 3d at all. I just want to run 2d fast enough to watch video.09:23
ubotufusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 140 kB09:23
DARKGuyAh, thanks xD09:24
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mnoirsysrage: ubuntu is not about leading edge - it is about stuff that is tested and works (more or less)09:24
DARKGuybut there's a command to setuid root a command oO I wonder what is it09:24
georoverhyper: actually then bst syntax would be VAR="${VAR}`command`"09:24
georoverjgrover@rivendell:~$ VAR=`ls`09:24
georoverjgrover@rivendell:~$ VAR="${VAR}`ps`"09:24
georoverjgrover@rivendell:~$ echo $VAR09:24
georoverDesktop Examples hello.shl hello.shl~ Media tmp PID TTY TIME CMD 5881 pts/2 00:00:00 bash 6822 pts/2 00:00:00 ps09:24
georoverjgrover@rivendell:~$09:24
sysragemnoir: i understand. but they have beta3.. beta5 fixes a ton of stuff in beta309:24
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mnoiri know - sometimes they are slow... :)09:25
HyperDevilthanks :)09:25
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ph8does anyone know a way to make say, xine, start with certain arguments every time?09:25
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LjL!paste | georover09:25
ubotugeorover: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:25
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sysragealias xine=xine --myargs works if you're starting it from CLI09:26
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cbraketrying to get wpa working w/ 6.06?  I think my system is up to date, but I only see options for wep?09:26
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andrejstefg: Thanks, awesome, I'm all set:  dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 ~ /install/' > myselections09:26
CraZy675anyone have a link to a tutorial on installing webmin?09:26
georoversorry- was only 4 lines...09:26
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linux_kid!wpa09:26
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:26
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stefgandrej: hehe09:26
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CraZy675!webmin09:27
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.09:27
MikeD_anyone have a url to a howto for fixing a corrupted filesystem?09:27
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linux_kid<CraZy675> just install the .deb, it will work fine09:27
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andrejNice feature... hope I can get blinking amarok to work this time around :D09:27
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CraZy675linux_kid: should I be using something else?09:27
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CraZy675i just want a web gui to control my firewall09:28
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linux_kidCraZy675: webmin is fine... just install the .deb file from webmin's site.  Do you know how to install .deb's?09:28
tsolermnoir:09:28
georover?part09:29
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crazyidiotum, is anybody else having trouble with ati drivers? I am09:29
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crazyidioti looked around but nothing w orked09:29
tsolerguys how i ask help from ubotu?09:29
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Adlaitsoler, !question09:29
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CraZy675linux_kid: yea i can handle .debs thanks09:29
tsoler!ntfs09:29
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:29
linux_kidtsoler put a "!" and then your keyword09:29
wasp_emshello..does anyone know to tell me when is the swap supposed to be used?09:29
X-Fau1twow, how many people here :)09:29
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tsolerfantastico09:30
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X-Fau1tin russian #ubuntu therea only 17 people _09:30
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MikeD_!file system09:30
linux_kidwasp_ems: its like window's paging file (virtual memory)09:30
manmadhahee is there any cmd to login as root user on ftp server from host>09:30
ubotufile: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.17-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB09:30
X-Fau1tdoes anybody know, how to play cs 1.6 game from wine?!09:30
manmadhaI am new to networks09:30
linux_kid!swap09:30
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info09:30
andrejwasp_ems: when a) there's a shortage of available RAM or b) a processes code in RAM wasn't accessed in a while09:30
phonoxchristiane: boot with your live-cd and copy /etc/xorg.conf to a safe place i.e. usb-stick09:31
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X-Fau1tdoes anybody know, how to play cs 1.6 game from wine?!09:31
wasp_emsthank you09:31
tsoler!gis09:31
stefgmanmadha: you know how a telephone works, don't you? :-) So you're /not/ new to networks ;-)09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:31
MikeD_pi is exactly equal to 309:31
tsoler!qgis09:31
ubotuqgis: Geographic Information System (GIS). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.4-4.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7340 kB, installed size 20144 kB09:31
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linux_kid!pi09:31
ubotupi: Compute Archimedes' constant Pi to arbitrary precision. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.11-1 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 56 kB09:31
manmadhastefg, ha ha ... so it is not possible..?09:32
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MikeD_well at least someone is reading what i'm typing :)09:32
stefgmanmadha: sorry i didn't get yout initial question, what was it?09:32
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MikeD_i can't boot anymore - the console is filled with errors about the harddrive - i don't know how to fix it09:32
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crazyidioti realized irc is a bad place to ask questions09:33
andrejmanmadha: only if you set-up the ftp server VERY stupidly09:33
MikeD_i really don't want to have to destroy all the data on the hdd09:33
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manmadhastefg, it is possible to login as root from ftp client?09:33
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X-Fau1t   -? )))09:33
io] nowherehi all :) I have a domain that doesn't get accepted by google hosted for mail, I don't have much experience with ubuntu although I use it on my server where the domain is at as well... How hard is it to install a mailserver? And what program would you suggest?09:33
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manmadhaandrej, ohh..... that mean?09:33
XiXaQHow do I do "dir /s filename.ext" in linux? That is, find out where a spesific file is?09:34
andrejThat it would b appallingly bad practice to try what you're trying09:34
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stefgmanmadha: oh, i don't know, but for things like that i'd rather use openssh or somthing like that...09:34
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X-Fau1tGnome suxxx, kde rulezz09:34
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noct3rnFATAL: Error inserting jfs (/lib modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/fs/jfs/jfs.ko): Cannot allocate memory --- am I missing something besides "sudo modprobe jfs" to load jfs support ?09:34
flodineplease09:34
narvik86XiXaQ: ls command?09:35
manmadhastefg, thank uuuu......09:35
chrisjwi've put tahoma in my ~/.fonts directory, it works for most applications but not amsn, any reason for this/09:35
andrejXiXaQ: either locate (if locate/slocate is installed), or find (man find for details)09:35
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stefg!openssh-server09:36
ubotuopenssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB09:36
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stefg^^ is not installed by default, manmadha ,09:37
manmadhastefg, he..I didn't find 'openssh' cmd09:37
manmadhaohh09:37
manmadhaok then i have to install it... ;)09:37
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stefgmanmadha: sudo aptitude insatll openssh-server09:37
stefgmanmadha: sudo aptitude install openssh-server09:37
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pop1348salut09:39
somerville32Hello pop134809:39
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madman91hello all09:39
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pop1348je suis pass  edgy mais j'arrive pas  installer les pilote nvidia09:40
stefg!fr09:40
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:40
La_PaRCa!fr09:40
pop1348avec easy ubuntu09:40
madman91i plugged in a usb reader and it does not mount or show up anywhere.. its not in fdisk -l ... not in mount ... anyways.. i have the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog and kernel in the pastebin .. http://madman91.pastebin.ca/281470 .. any ideas?09:40
stefgB-)09:40
pop1348il est marqu qu'il faut insrer le cd ubuntu 6.1009:40
pop1348mais je lai pas j'ai que l'alternate09:40
Armen   -? )))09:40
pop1348comment faire ?09:40
La_PaRCa!fr > pop134809:41
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regeyawhee.09:41
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Random_Transitpop1348, pour le francais, allez a #ubuntu-fr09:41
Desert88hey could someone help me I feel kind of retarded lol09:41
Desert88Im just got amarok09:41
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somerville32!ask | Desert8809:42
ubotuDesert88: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:42
Random_TransitDesert88, what's your question09:42
regeyaDesert88: and just having amarok makes you retarded?  !ask09:42
Desert88k09:42
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regeyaso is the bod called Random_Transit now09:42
Random_Transitlol09:42
regeyas/bod/bot/09:42
Random_Transitnope09:42
Desert88well I was trying to listen to one of the radio streams and it says its playing but I dont hear anything09:42
Random_Transiti just speak a bit of french09:42
Desert88but sound works find on anything else09:42
Random_Transithmm09:42
madman91anyone have any ideas with my problem09:42
Desert88like on firefox09:43
Desert88so its nothing with hardware09:43
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pop1348ok thanks09:43
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Desert88and I dont have any music files on this os09:43
Desert88so i cant test amarok any other way09:43
regeyawell, I was at work for a while, but now it's time to mosey back home.  working on weekends sucks.09:43
MikeD_Can i reinstall from the live cd without losing all the data on my haddrive?09:43
Random_TransitDesert88, do you have amarok-arts installed?09:43
Desert88no09:43
Neocorpis there a way to "pin" a gdesklets-desklet to the desktop so it wont be minimized when clicking the "show desktop" icon?09:43
Desert88do i need that for amarok09:44
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saifi am tring to change the sudoers file, that i should add default !env_reset, is it ok if i do this? (safe)09:44
Random_TransitDesert88, that's the problem09:44
Desert88ah ok09:44
Desert88I will go install it09:44
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saharaabhallo09:44
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phonoxEVERYONE: can someone plz try to /msg me? christiane said my privacy settings seem to disallow it...09:44
wheels3572How do I go about using a .bin file under Ubuntu?09:44
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madman91i plugged in a usb reader and it does not mount or show up anywhere.. its not in fdisk -l ... not in mount ... anyways.. i have the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog and kernel in the pastebin .. http://madman91.pastebin.ca/281470 .. any ideas?09:44
saharaabcan anyone tell me what's better EXT3 or Reiser??09:45
Neocorpis there a way to "pin" a gdesklets-desklet to the desktop so it wont be minimized when clicking the "show desktop" icon?09:45
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phonoxthanks! enough. anyone experienced any problems messaging me?09:45
phonoxhmm09:46
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Curs0rdoes anyone know if opengl works over xdmcp?09:46
wheels3572What is a .bin file for Linux09:46
Random_Transitwheels3572, it could be a couple things09:46
Curs0ror more precisely, beryl?09:46
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Random_Transitwheels3572, most likely an executable file09:47
HYBDoes anyone know of a PHP editor with FTP for ubuntu?09:47
phonoxwheels: executables are09:47
wheels3572Random_Transit, how do I unpack it?09:47
Random_TransitHYB, Zend Studio09:47
HYBRandom_Transit, thanks <309:47
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Random_Transitwheels3572, ./filename.bin09:47
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Desert88is there anything else I need to do after installing amarok arts to get it to work?09:47
Desert88because I installed it and restarted amarok and its still not working09:47
phonoxwheels: you can chmod +x them and then execute by ./something.bin09:48
graftugh, don't use arts09:48
Random_TransitDesert88, best bet is to open synaptic and search for amarok09:48
madman91saharaab: i heard that reisferfs is faster..09:48
christiane_Hello. What is the cleanest way to modprobe ndiswrapper at system start?09:48
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Desert88thats what I did09:48
HYBRandom_Transit, that's not free... is it?09:48
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Desert88I installed amarok09:48
madman91saharaab: ext3 is slower.. but more stable i think... i'm sure my friend google knows :D09:48
Desert88and then installed arts09:48
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wheels3572Random_Transit, Im having an issue ever since I updated to Edgy I cant see NOTHING on my desktop any idea why09:48
graftreiser is faster if you have directories with LOTS of files in 'em09:48
cjtennyhey somebody.... why is it that I can't seem to install any of the x-devel packages?  i get a bunch of apt and/or dpkg errors.....09:48
wheels3572it's like it's in another area09:49
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saharaabcan i convert reiser to ext3??09:49
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graftotherwise i think they're pretty much equivalent...09:49
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cjtennyext is my preference09:49
HYBany one else with suggestions for a PHP editor with built in FTP?09:49
Random_Transitwheels3572, because edgy is buggy09:49
graftDesert88: seriously, don't use arts...09:49
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cjtennyhey somebody.... why is it that I can't seem to install any of the x-devel packages?  i get a bunch of apt and/or dpkg errors.....09:49
cjtenny(in edgy)09:49
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wheels3572But if I goto Thunar and click on Deskto09:49
graftcjtenny: like what?09:49
wheels3572I see EVERYTHING09:50
ph8HYB: gedit?09:50
cjtennygraft, hold on a sec lemme get one name09:50
wasp_emshello..i have a laptop on 2.8mhz and 512ram..i am going to install bebian and kde on it..does anyone know if by adding karamba applets and panel will affect my overall performance?09:50
madman91saharaab: no idea... look it up09:50
HYBph8, i don't think that has built in FTP09:50
ph8you can mount ftp filesystems with gnome09:50
ph8same thing09:50
ugaritmy firefox 2.0 crahes every few minutes!  anyone else have this problem?09:50
Random_Transitwheels3572, sounds like the gnome-desktop executable is crashing09:50
wasp_emsugarit, i do09:50
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cjtennygraft, libglu1-mesa-dev depends libglu1-mesa certain version but a newer one is to be installed09:50
wheels3572I get no error msgs09:51
wheels3572I just cant see anything on desktop09:51
cjtennygraft, i'm trying to install opengl development libs09:51
ugaritwasp_ems: so I guess there's a bug!09:51
wheels3572but if I go into Thunar I can click on Desktop and see it all09:51
Random_Transitwheels3572, that's really odd...did you upgrade or is this a fresh install?09:51
wheels3572Upgrade09:51
Random_Transitahh09:51
Random_Transitthat's it then09:51
graftcjtenny: um, apt-cache policy libglu1-mesa-dev09:51
wasp_emsugarit, yeah i guess so..i tried uninstalling and installing again but nothing..so i just added konqueror09:51
Random_Transityou're one of the many casualties of the dapper/edgy upgrade, wheels357209:52
wasp_emsugarit, probably will install an older version to be fine09:52
wheels3572Random_Transit, ok how do I fix this then lol09:52
Random_Transitwheels3572, my suggestion, back up your data, and reinstall edgy09:52
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madman91i plugged in a usb reader and it does not mount or show up anywhere.. its not in fdisk -l ... not in mount ... anyways.. i have the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog and kernel in the pastebin .. http://madman91.pastebin.ca/281470 .. any ideas?09:52
cjtennygraft, what about it?09:52
Nippoogr. ubuntu + SMB networks = not good.09:53
wheels3572I dont have my cd burner running so09:53
wheels3572I cant do that09:53
Random_Transitotherwise you're likely to see a whole mess of new problems09:53
wheels3572thats why I just did the upgrade09:53
wheels3572lol09:53
graftcjtenny: what version is it trying to install?09:53
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Random_Transitwheels3572, then downgrade to Breezy for now09:53
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wheels3572ok09:53
Desert88how can I get music from my ipod to amarok?09:54
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cjtennygraft, it depends 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 but it's installing  6.5.1+cvs20060824 of libglu1-mesa (whatlibglu1-mesa-dev depends on)09:54
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Random_TransitDesert88, right click on a song on the ipod and hit save to library09:54
phonoxchristiane: do you experience better video performance now?09:55
Desert88k09:55
graftcjtenny: um, you got some extra repositories in your sources.list?09:55
ubunhow do i install flash 9 on ubuntu ? i have backports enabled09:55
Random_Transitubun, you need wine09:55
FlannelRandom_Transit: no he doesn't09:55
ubuni mean the player09:55
Random_Transitwha?!09:55
ubuni dont want to create flash movies :P09:55
Random_Transitreally??09:55
Flannelubun: it's in backports, so it should show up in your repository09:55
cjtennygraft, a few....09:55
graftubun: you have to download the binary from adobe site09:55
Flannel!flash909:55
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports09:55
wasp_emsdoes anyone know the reasons that a cpu might be 100% most of the time when running applications?09:56
ubunflannel know what it's called in synaptic?09:56
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graftcjtenny: apt-cache policy libglu1-mesa will show you where it's getting that cvs one from, disable that source and it oughta work09:56
ubunit's not under the name 'flash*'09:56
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Random_Transit!backports09:56
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports09:56
cjtennyok09:56
cjtennyhmm it's from http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages09:56
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Flannelubun: you sure you have backports enabled?  I can't image it'd be called something without flash in the name.09:56
cjtennygraft, hmm it's from http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages09:56
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tchrisIs there an easy way to get ubuntu 6.10 to support my widescreen? I have a Dell 2005FPW and an ATi X80009:57
ubunflannel well i did waht the docs said and uncommented the backports line from sources.list09:57
ubunor is there more i have to do ?09:57
graftcjtenny: urm. wtf. my edgy mirror doesn't have that...09:57
Flannelubun: no, that's really it09:57
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cjtennygraft, yeah mine's not listed in sources.list09:57
cjtennygraft, can you send me a good sources.list?09:57
Zaggynlwhich kernel is better suited for amd64: k7, 686 or 386?09:57
FlannelZaggynl: none of those are 64bit kernels09:58
ubunflashplayer-nonfree is all that turns up in synaptic after adding backports, and it says it's verison 7.0.6309:58
graftum, i'm using http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu, cjtenny09:58
ZaggynlFlannel, actually I want to use 32bit :)09:58
cjtennygraft, cat souces.list | grep Packages yields nothing09:58
cjtennygraft, what?09:58
FlannelZaggynl: using dapper? or edgy?09:58
[Relic] how do I list all installed packages?09:58
ZaggynlFlannel, dapper09:58
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Flannelubun: pastebin your sources.list please09:58
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FlannelZaggynl: k7 is amd specific, but any of those will work fine09:58
graftcjtenny: edit your sources.list and change archive.ubuntu.com to ftp.ussg.iu.edu09:58
wheels3572HOw do I go about finding that one file that I have here that I just downloaded09:58
cjtennyok....09:58
Desert88Hey whoever told me to add music from my ipod to amarok, right click and click add to lib, I dont get that option when I right click a track on my ipod, any idea what I'm doing wrong?09:59
cjtennygraft, for every source?09:59
ZaggynlFlannel, I'm wondering if there will be any performance boost between 386 and k709:59
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cjtennyand graft, is that ok for edgy?09:59
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cjtennygraft, also -- is that plenty fast?09:59
FlannelZaggynl: yeah, normal optomization stuff09:59
ubul4i just installed ubuntu. it reports the sound card as 'ALI 5451', but there is no sound. Anyone got an idea as where to look?09:59
graftcjtenny: yeah it's an ubuntu mirror, not sure why there's the diff... it's a university line, so it's hella fast09:59
tchrisIs there an easy way to get ubuntu 6.10 to support my widescreen? I have a Dell 2005FPW and an ATi X80009:59
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vanbergetchris: you probably need to install the ati drivers10:00
wheels3572Random_Transit, How do I go about finding a file I just downloaded and knowing where it's path is?  Can I do it via cli so I know the exact path?10:00
tchristhere are no widescreen resolutions available10:00
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Flanneltchris: so, add one10:00
graftubul4: sure you have all the appropriate mixer volumes turned up?10:00
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cjtennyso graft i change to ftp:/ftp.ussg.iu.edu/ ?10:00
tchrisFlannel, is there a way to do this without editing large, confusing text files?10:01
vanbergecan anybody comment on feisty's wlan support?  i have a wlan card that has yet to be supported in any single *nix10:01
cjtenny(change http://*/ to that?)10:01
ubunflannel my bad, i didnt uncomment both backport lines, didnt notice the second one, works now :)10:01
graftcjtenny: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/, not ftp:10:01
cjtennyok10:01
ubul4graft: yes the ALSA mixer looks ok.10:01
vanberge^ card mentioned above = netgear WG511 v210:01
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graftubul4: um, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp10:01
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Flannelgraft: don't be stupid10:01
bruenigvanberge, I would assume #ubuntu+1 would be able to field that question better10:01
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graftFlannel: beg pardon?10:02
vanberge!#ubuntu+1 | vanberge10:02
ubotuvanberge: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+110:02
strabestchris: you should install the proprietary ATI drivers. look here for how: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:02
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ubunhow come firefox 2 doesnt show up in backports10:02
tchrisThank you strabes10:02
ubul4graft: nothing, just hangs. i killed it with ctrl+c10:02
madman91ubun: if you find an answer to your question please tell me it :D i too want to experiment with firefox 210:03
Desert88hey guys Im going insane10:03
Desert88I cant here anything out of amarok10:03
Desert88and I cant get the music off my ipod10:03
bruenigmadman91, you aren't missing much believe me10:03
drkmDes: test10:03
Desert88?10:03
drkmsorry, just testing my auto complete10:03
madman91bruenig: i know .. i just want one more thing on my list of pointless things to do10:03
Desert88oh10:03
drkmDesk: test10:03
drkmDesker: test10:04
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madman91i plugged in a usb reader and it does not mount or show up anywhere.. its not in fdisk -l ... not in mount ... anyways.. i have the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog and kernel in the pastebin .. http://madman91.pastebin.ca/281470 .. any ideas?10:04
cjtennygraft, can you send me a good sources.list?  i did it and it can't find any of them10:04
drkmDes: test10:04
Desert88so anyone have any ideas10:04
Flannel!firefox | madman91, ubun10:04
ubunah man, i uninstalled flash7 player and sound was working again, then i installed flash 9 player and it's back to not working (in my mp3 players)10:04
ubotumadman91, ubun: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins10:04
Desert88why I cant hear anything out of amarok10:04
bruenigmadman91, you can get the firefox from getfirefox.com, all you have to do is extract it and run the firefox script in the directory10:04
drkm:deser:10:04
drkm:Des10:04
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drkmDes: test10:04
ubunDesert88:  you need the mp3 codecs10:04
Desert88how can I get those10:04
cjtennygraft, can you send me a good sources.list?  i did it and it can't find any of them10:04
graftcjtenny: yeah hode on10:05
cjtennygraft, k thanks10:05
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ubun!restricted | desert8810:05
ubotudesert88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:05
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luki_helo :)10:05
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graftcjtenny: you should get by with just this one line: deb http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse10:05
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Taa5iHello.  I am attempting to install the Server edition of Edgy Eft onto a laptop with no CD rom drive and which cannot boot from USB.  How might I go about this please?10:06
Flannel!install | Taa5i10:06
ubotuTaa5i: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues10:06
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FlannelTaa5i: first link, lots of methods10:06
graftubul4: you don't get any 'device busy' thing with that?10:07
nothlitAnyone have experience with ext3 corruption? I'm trying to delete/restore a file that cannot be modified or read in any way with root privileges.10:07
SpiX^what do i need to start a psyBNC ?10:07
cjtennygraft, ah thanks now it's updating... now to hope that i can install the x dev packages10:07
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ubunok nm sound does work with flash9, man linux is weird with multimedia stuff10:08
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cjtennyno graft i still get the error with libglu1-mesa10:08
ubul4graft: no nothing, it just sits and waits until I kill it with ctrl+c10:08
bruenigubun, blame closed formats10:08
matsubuntu and multimedia is a little bit corky10:09
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ubuni do :)10:09
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ubungoogle should make an operating system10:09
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SpiX^what do i need to start a psyBNC ? some one ?10:09
ubunbackports/flash9 seem to have fixed everything in dapper10:09
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strabesUbun: i've heard something like goobuntu is in the works10:10
strabesdunno though10:10
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matsSpiX^: thats not a "ubuntu" question. Read on the bnc-site ;) i dont know.. havnt set up a bouncer for years10:10
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SpiX^i can typ make it is a erro then10:10
strabesubun: they use it internally, inside the googleplex10:10
cjtennygraft?....10:10
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ubunstrabes oh yeah i heard about that too i think10:11
matsSpiX^: what does the error say?10:11
cjtennygraft i still get the error with libglu1-mesa10:11
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strabesubun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goobuntu10:11
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SpiX^can i past it here?10:11
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Flannel!paste | SpiX^10:11
ubotuSpiX^: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:11
AdministratorSpiX^, no.10:11
matsuse pastbin ;)10:12
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noelferreirahi have wireless driver rt61 working on amd64 edgy. however i can't use the file /etc/network/interfaces. if i do that the system crashes. i have to run manually 'dhclient ra0' every reboot. any solution?10:12
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Capslock118how do i use the is32-libs?10:13
vanbergenoelferreira: are you using WPA?10:13
noelferreiranothing vanberge10:13
Administratornoelferreira, you can not use rt61 driver using smp / preempt kernel.10:13
noelferreiraopen wireless. only mac adress10:13
vanbergenoelferreira: sorry, that was my only suggestion...  :-/10:13
Administratornoelferreira, use 386 kernel10:14
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SpiX^http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37445/10:14
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Curs0rhttp://123pichosting.com/images/9844Screenshot-1.jpg10:14
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noelferreirahow can i Administrator? it is working fine. i  only have to turn it on manually10:14
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Administratornoelferreira, You can read all about the issues on the rt61 and rt related driver forums.10:15
noelferreiraAdministrator: i have to delete /etc/network/interfaces fie10:15
Administratornoelferreira, you could use wpa.10:15
noelferreiralol Administrator i spend my time in there10:15
matsCurs0r: seen it before ;)10:15
noelferreirai dont need encryptation Administrator10:15
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Administratornoelferreira, show me your /etc/network/interfaces10:16
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Administratoryou can use wpa without encryption to10:16
noelferreirai don't use it Administrator, ii have to delete it10:16
noelferreiraor my system hang up10:16
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Administratorno.10:16
Desert88should i have my amarok set to the xines or arts engine?10:16
Administrator /etc/network/interfaces is part of the base system10:17
ub12How do I tell which of my usb ports is usb2 ans usb1?10:17
matsSpiX^: install gcc10:17
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SpiX^how ?10:17
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noelferreiraya i know Administrator but i have to delete it or my system won't start up10:17
matsSpiX^: 'sudo apt-get install gcc'10:17
gouki!paste > gouki10:17
Desert88should i use xine engine or arts engine for amarok?10:17
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matsSpiX^: and dont make the psyBNC as root :p10:18
Administratornoelferreira, you can just turn it off as a service or just comment the part you don't need out.10:18
Capslock118i got cedega to work :)10:18
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jughead what command do I use to find out how much of my RAM is being used as video memory?  I have an intel 940GM pci express integrated graphics10:18
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Administratornoelferreira, what makes you so sure your system freezes because of the file and not what's in the file?10:18
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Desert88anyone know which engine to use arts or xine10:18
Desert88for amarok10:18
SpiX^i have it alreddy10:18
matsCapslock118: now you can run any games you want - allmost ;) Enjoy!10:18
Moosejawhey all...how can i get streaming video in firefox if it needs windows media player 10?10:18
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ubul4how do I install packages without an internet connection?10:19
Capslock118mats: yeah, im sure it wont work right when i run the game, but its atleast installing WoW10:19
narvik86jughead: i think you can only check it in BIOS10:19
DuesentriebDesert88: if you are using kde, i would recommend arts. under gnome, not.10:19
ub12Desert88 I have used arts before but remember there were some timeout issues10:19
noelferreiraok Administrator its not because of the file. its because of the part related with ra010:19
jugheadoh ok thanks narvik8610:19
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noelferreirabut i don't use eth0 so the file is not necessary10:19
Administratornoelferreira, then just comment it out and write your own script that setups ra010:19
Desert88ok10:19
matsubul4: dpkg -i file.deb10:19
Administratornoelferreira, altough I think you misconfigured your /etc/network/ineterfaces10:19
Moosejawhey all...how can i get streaming video in firefox if it needs windows media player 10?  Can anyone help me out?10:20
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graftMoosejaw: is it DRM'd?10:20
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matsMoosejaw: i think VLC has a plugin for firefox10:20
strabesMoosejaw: mplayer firefox plugin10:20
strabesor vlc10:20
AdministratorMoosejaw, install w32codecs and juse mplayerplugin10:20
Fleebailey33mozilla10:20
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Fleebailey33so firefox would work10:20
matsah, mplayer it is :p10:20
ppdg10:20
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Desert88Im seriously going insane lol I cannot get any sound to come out of amarok10:20
Moosejawsure but this is specifically asking for windows media player10:20
Desert88streams say they are playing but I dont hear them10:20
Moosejawbut maybe i dont have the plugins installed i gues10:21
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ubul4mats: and where can I get the .deb files?10:21
Duesentriebhmm... does anyone know how to find out the model id of an asus laptop? the manual sais Z53J, but that doesn't seem to be the actual model name (the ASUS site doesn't know it)10:21
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onofriohelp for mount USB partition with GRUB10:21
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mikeo1how do i make double click maximise windows10:21
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noelferreiraAdministrator: how can write a scrip for two different conecntions10:21
khatunare there ubuntu edgy packages for fglrx 8.32.5 anywhere?10:21
AdlaiDesert88, alsamixer10:21
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Desert88whats alsamixer?10:21
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Desert88should i install it10:22
Adlailets you control volume10:22
besucheri m sorry for disturbing i only have a small  question which should be easy to answer... at the moment i'm using x-chat and i don know this prog, normally using mirc... i simply can't find the posibilty of joining another network which is not given in the list of networks but i know for sure that it exists10:22
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matsubul4: on the internet, or from your ubuntu-cds. You can even do 'sudo rm /etc/apt/source-list ; sudo apt-setup'10:22
dcmoore1hi10:22
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Desert88volume of amarok or system10:22
Desert88?10:22
matsand then make cd insted of the net to make it get packes10:22
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strabesDesert88: does sound work normally?10:22
Administratornoelferreira, well just use lo or whatever in /etc/network/interfaces and add another init startup script that setsup your ra0. check out /etc/init.d/skeleton10:22
noelferreiraAdministrator: i web one with wep and another open. i need that it knows wich one to connect. do you know what i mean?10:22
Desert88yes10:22
AdlaiDesert88, system10:22
Desert88adlai: the sound works on the system fine10:22
Adlaioh never mind then10:22
Administratornoelferreira, checkout man iwlist10:23
strabesDesert88: install alsa-oss10:23
Desert88what will that do?10:23
strabesthen run firefox with aoss in front of it like "aoss firefox"10:23
Adlaistrabes, it's amarok, not firefox10:23
mikeo1how do i make double clicking on menus maximise windows10:23
Loran_Hello, i have problem with starting Ubuntu Live CD... When I run it my screen is filled by strips, please contact me on private chat! ;(10:23
Desert88all my sound works fine everwhere else but amarok10:23
Desert88I cant hear streams10:23
Desert88even though it says they are playing10:24
strabesAdlai: they'll all monopolize my soundcard - i'll only be able to use one of them at a time10:24
strabeswith sound10:24
Desert88and I cant hear files off my ipod10:24
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Moosejawhey guys...can u see if you can stream video from last nights hockey games from nhl.com?10:24
Moosejawi have the plugins installed of mplayer and vlc...10:24
Moosejawbut nothing comes up when i try to view the vids10:24
Adlaistrabes, sounds like you need to fix your mixer10:24
Adlainot that I would know how10:24
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mikeo1found it nevermind10:25
Administratormoonlite, did you install mozilla-mplayer?10:25
strabesAdlai: it works with aoss in front of everything10:25
Administratori mean Moosejaw10:25
matsstrabes: maybe try using Gstreamer? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GstreamerAudioBackend?highlight=%28gstreamer%29 )10:25
Moosejawhehe10:25
Moosejawyes10:25
noelferreiracan you send to me your /etc/network/interfaces ?10:25
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noelferreiracan you send to me your /etc/network/interfaces ? Administrator10:25
AdministratorMoosejaw, check with about:plugins in firefox if the correct plugins are listed and only use one video emeeded extention.10:26
Administrator*embeded10:26
matshehe10:26
AdministratorMoosejaw, also check for sure that your system is cabable of viewing the format.10:26
iturkhi there my friends !! is there any think like visual studio for linux for web develop ??10:26
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mats!br10:27
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.10:27
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Moosejawtheyre all installed10:27
Administratoriturk, yes there is, non-free and free. try bluefish for webdevelopment or screem, man apt-cache (search for 'search")10:27
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saharaab_what's the default FS in ubuntu reiser or ext3?10:27
Adlaiext310:27
iturkAdministrator: you mean search for webdevelopment10:27
matsext310:28
MoosejawAdmin: could you possibly check the link and see if it plays for you?10:28
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Moosejawit doesnt make sense why it wouldnt stream10:28
Administratoriturk, search for editor and grep for tags like HTML10:28
SpiX^http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37446/ ???10:28
Administratoriturk,some advice, try emacs, might take a while to get used to, but after you get used to it and you know what it is capable of, you'll love it. It's the most extensible editor out there. Try #emacs.10:29
Administrator#emacs10:29
iturkAdministrator: apt-cache search editor | grep html -> proofgeneral-doc !! just this !!10:29
Administrator!emacs10:29
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code10:29
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Administrator!html10:29
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com10:29
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Administratoriturk, try capital letters for html10:29
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Administratoriturk, bluefish is in universe do you have the right repository's in your sources.list?10:30
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iturkAdministrator: i use visual studio for devoloping web stuf in windows i am trying to find something similar in linux i dont want console stuf !!10:30
iturkAdministrator: yes i can search for it10:30
oneironauthello10:30
saharaab_hello10:30
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Administratoriturk, well there is no console stuff in there.10:31
ryanakcawould dmesg have the logs for the creation of /etc/fstab at installation?10:31
Administratoriturk, only gui.10:31
laboratorio6hola10:31
tomh-try aptana for a html editor10:31
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tomh-its the best~10:31
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jprieur-macbookhello, I just finished the installation of edgy on macbook and my wifi card isn't recognized, could anybody gimme some help?10:31
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ub12How do I tell which of my usb ports is usb2 and usb1? I can see 3 usb1 and 1 usb2 on lspci but which ones are they on the computer? I can see my device on lsusb.10:31
Arigatowhat is a good ftp program that automatically switches between binary and ascii?10:31
iturkAdministrator: i already try quanta for it but i think that visual studio its much powerfull !! i would like to find something similar10:32
tomh-iturk: aptana10:32
Administratoriturk, take a while, experiment with edtiors, try vim and emacs, these are the two most used and advanced editors out there. ( #emacs , #vim )10:32
BioVorEArigato: most ftp clients do10:32
Moosejawcan someone go to nhl.com and try to view the streaming video highlights and let me know if it works for you?10:32
iturkAdministrator: i understand10:32
matsArigato: ncftp10:32
oneironautive just a short question, ive mounted my windows-hda5 to /media/windows-D. if i want to go to /media/windows-D ive got the message "Permission denied..."10:32
SpiX^http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37446/ ??? what is wron ?10:32
goukiMoosejaw: Do you have Flash9 BETA installed?10:32
Moosejawi think so10:33
Moosejawsorry..yes i do10:33
Moosejaw:)10:33
oneironautcan anyone help me pls.. i use kubuntu 61010:33
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goukioneironaut: #kubuntu10:33
Dina 10:33
iturktomh-: i will check it10:34
gouki!kubuntu | oneironaut10:34
ubotuoneironaut: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE10:34
reversebladeis GNASH usuable instead of flash, does it work in youtube ?10:34
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oneironauthehe thx gouki, i know that kubuntu is ubuntu with kde10:34
iturkAdministrator: i will check bluefish10:34
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oneironautbut i think my question is equal to ubuntu/kubuntu10:35
Administratoriturk, my personal favor: emacs.10:35
kejoki42oh, there's something besides emacs?  ;)10:35
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iturkAdministrator: i understand your point but if the ide its more user friendly then you can program more efficiently and more fast10:35
reversebladeAdministrator, yes but real men use vim10:35
matsoneironaut: im a fan of rtfm :p try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:35
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Administratoriturk, emacs works keyboard binding.10:36
iturkAdministrator: i usually use vim but only for c programming10:36
Administratori see.10:36
reversebladevim rocks10:36
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jon_I am an emacs guy myself10:36
oneironautyes youre right mats.. but i thounght my questions is so simple that anyone can explain me the my failure in 1 minute10:36
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strabeskind of a weird question: is there a way to turn off that annoying zooming rectangle that appears when I click a shortcut on my panel?10:36
matsreverseblade: gvim \o/10:37
strabeswhich signals that the program is being opend10:37
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reverseblademats, same stuff10:37
oneironautbut thx for the link...10:37
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Moosejawcan someone try to get the video to work on nhl.com?10:37
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ub12Moosejaw I went to nhl.com and tried to play highlights and I got the message "mrl deformed". I have gxine plugin.10:38
Moosejawjust to make sure it aint me...and its them.10:38
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iturktomh-: aptana looks like eclipse !!10:38
Moosejawubl2 thanks10:38
Moosejawso its them?10:38
jon_I want beryl to work with the dbus any tip on how to set this up quickly?10:38
matsreverseblade: i know :p didnt mean to send the msg.. enter insted of backspace10:38
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ub12I'll try and play something else10:38
christianeHello. I have 6 partitions but the kernel only recognized 5 of them. Any idea?10:38
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iturktomh-: can you do drag and drop of thinks like bottons ??10:39
jon_what filesystems are the partitions?10:39
reversebladechristiane, simple five fingers five partitions that's it :)10:39
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christianereverseblade: ???10:39
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strabeschristiane: is one of them ntfs?10:39
ub12Moosejaw Yeah it is them I got another stream to play: "saves of the week"10:40
reversebladechristiane, ignore it , just a bad joke, but I admit I laughed a lot10:40
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jon_Its got to be an ntfs10:40
Moosejawk...geeze..losers10:40
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Moosejawthanks man10:40
christianereverseblade: :)10:40
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christianestrabes: Yes, but that one is shown.10:40
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jon_how strange10:41
strabeschristiane: which one isn't being shown10:41
jon_swap maybe?10:41
jon_it might be a mounting issue10:41
netcrashHello, what is the latest version of ubuntu , dapper ?/topic10:41
netcrashsorry neverming that above question10:41
strabesnetcrash: edgy 6.1010:41
jon_6.10 - edgy10:41
jon_lol10:41
strabesjon_: that's what i was thinking - she probably has to edit her /etc/fstab10:41
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christianestrabes, jon_: There are: prim: 1, 2, ext: 3: log: 5, 6, 7, 8. Number 8 is not recognized.10:42
veljkoHi everyone. Is there a way to enable OpenGL if usin sis 661 vga card? thanks10:42
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Curs0rveljko, if there is you probably won't be happy with it lol10:43
strabeswhat file system is 8, and is it in your /etc/fstab10:43
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strabeschristiane:  what file system is 8, and is it in your /etc/fstab, and is it /dev/sda8?10:43
jon_OpenGL on a vga card - not the best idea10:43
jon_if so is /dev/sda8 in /media/10:44
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jon_(monted somewhere)10:44
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jon_why must I lag so much on irc10:45
christianestrabes: disc is sda. 1: vfat, 2: ntfs, 5: swap, 6: reiserfs (/), 7: ext3, 8: none.10:45
jon_My campus network sucks10:45
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h0ndaracer2hello everyone10:45
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veljkoOn a laptop under windows i get some HW accseleration. Under linux cant ewen use screensaver if 3d... thats the thing10:45
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strabeschristiane: 8 has no file system type? that's probably why ubuntu isn't recognizing it. it doesn't know what it is. you need to install gparted and format it as something, and then mount it in /etc/fstab10:46
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Curs0rmy cable inet is glorious 1300kb/s from most repos10:46
oneironautok... ive mounted my partitions... thx guys =)10:46
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strabesCurs0r: that's super fast wow10:46
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christianestrabes: Why do I have to format it to let it be recognized?10:47
jon_I have over 200 ms of lag10:47
Curs0rstrabes, it can get up to 160010:47
strabesCurs0r: nice one10:47
kejoki42amd Turion64 x2, nvidia c51 w/ hidef audio, etherenet, usb, pci , nvidia geforce 6150, broadcom wireless nic ... no sound, no gl, can't get the dratted proprietary nvidia driver to compile and acpi doesn't work.  Anyone been through this, or something similar?10:47
Nippoowow. I've got 6000 =)10:47
jon_on good days I can get 200010:47
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Curs0ri'm so happy i moved back to a real city lol10:47
christianestrabes: That's my problem: $10:47
christianels /dev/sda*10:47
christiane/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda5  /dev/sda6  /dev/sda710:47
vanbergeanybody know of a "qucksilver" type application for ubuntu/gnome ? thanks in advance!10:47
strabeschristiane: i don't know. does it show up in gparted?10:48
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christianestrabes: sfdisk, cfdisk and fdisk -l show it.10:48
levanderIs there a good pixel ruler I can install?10:48
strabeschristiane: just format it to ext3 using gparted and then it should show up. if not then i dunno sorry. i g2g10:48
jon_christiane: can you see it in the "disks" utility?10:49
christianestrabes: I can't format it when it doesn't exist, do I?10:49
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Duesentrieblevander: kruler for kde...10:49
firebird619Where is KDE installed to when installed via the kubuntu-desktop package? I am trying to install KDEnlive and it asks for where KDE is installed.10:49
christianejon_: What is the "disks" utility?10:49
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fooI'm having a little issue with grub. Basically, I took hard drives and put them in a new system weith new proc/mobo/RAM. I got into a live cd and corrected fstab and the menu.lst for grub. I replaced all /dev/hda with /dev/hdb .. since before the change I was on hda, but now hdb. Now, everything works fine. However, grub takes about a minute to load and show the operating systems. I'm thinking I need to change something there but I don't ...10:49
foo... know what exactly, any ideas?10:49
jon_christiane:  if you can see it in gparted then you could format it10:49
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levanderDuesentrieb: I'd rather not install all the kde libraries, is there one for gnome?10:49
Duesentriebvery likely10:50
levander"apt-cache search ruler" only shows up kruler10:50
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jon_christiane:  are you using gnome?10:50
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ub12I am trying to put ext2 onto an external 80G usb harddrive and it is taking forever does anyone have anytips to speed it up?10:50
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jon_ub12 try different drivers10:51
Duesentrieblevander: google sais: http://directory.fsf.org/all/gnome-screen-ruler.html10:51
christianejon_: Does that matter?10:51
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h0ndaracer2 i got a little problem during installation it says Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):how do i setup the first part where it says i.e.10:51
ub12jon_ how do I do that? I am just using mkfs10:51
christianejon_: I'm using bash right now.10:51
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jon_christiane:  no nor really but the tool i was talking about is in gnome10:52
jon_christiane:  if you are running kde than you would use a different tool10:52
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levanderDuesentrieb: any idea what package that application is in?10:53
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Duesentrieblevander: doesn't seem to be in the repos10:53
levanderdamn10:53
matt_____can someone walk me through setting up an extra hard drive to automount?10:53
tarzan_hi... i'm wondering.. gtk2/qt apps seem really unresponsive and slow compared to windows on my athlon 2000... is the cpu just to slow for today's linux widget libs or am i doing something wrong?10:53
ub12h0ndaracer2, just type "/usr/lib/mozilla"10:53
jon_matt_____ are you using gnome or kde10:54
matt_____gnome10:54
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christianejon_: I can't believe it. I created a fs with `parted` and now the device extsts.10:54
h0ndaracer2it dont work10:54
fiveironanyone using lirc?10:54
h0ndaracer2even tho that is the location10:54
Duesentrieblevander: http://www.google.com/search?q=gruler+deb10:54
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wumanHi somebody knows arstechnica.com? its a technology news blog, like slashdot, but i would like to be sure that information provided by arstechnica are reliable, anybody read this site everyday?10:55
jon_matt_____ you could use a nautilus script (in kde you would just right click and say automount)10:55
h0ndaracer2it says its not a directory10:55
matt_____are you saying i should give kde a try?10:55
jon_matt___ no not if that is all you want to do10:55
strabesmatt_____: in gnome you can go to system -> preferences -> removable drives and media10:55
itsmabusWhen I boot up my system according to the tutorial on encrypting root/swap with dm-crypt.. it says that /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz cannot be found. What should I do? I believe it's preventing me from entering my password correctly, because I can't enter it in to decrypt the drives and I'm sure it's the right password (I JUST finished encrypting them)10:55
jon_matt___ let me look for something to help you10:56
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matt_____so where would i find such a script? ah, but the disk is internal10:56
Duesentrieblevander: http://www.filewatcher.com/b/ftp/210.1.1.11/pub/ubuntu/kitty/pool/dapper/gruler.0.0.html10:56
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strabesmatt_____: so it's always plugged in?10:56
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matt_____yes, its mounted, i just don't want to have to mount it everytime i restart manually10:56
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strabesmatt_____: is it always plugged in? you should be able to put it in your /etc/fstab then10:57
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matt_____i looked into that, but it looked confusing10:57
strabesmatt_____: that's the only way to do it10:57
strabeswhat is the location of the drive10:57
WhiteRabitthis is probably a really simple question but its killing me..... why does my ubuntu machine fade to black after 10 minutes or so? I have the screensaver and powermanagment turned off........10:57
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jon_matt___ use Gnome-volume-manager10:57
drkmwhere can I go to add more fonts?10:57
strabesmatt_____: sdb something or other10:57
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matt_____i was going to give it a try, but i was wondering if i accident'y placed it in the wrong place, if it would mess up everything.10:57
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jon_matt___ use  Gnome-volume-manager to auto mount in gnome10:58
strabesmatt_____: if your x server breaks you can always still edit files using a virtual terminal or by using the failsafe grub option10:58
h0ndaracer2i get this wat am i doing wrng Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): home/h0ndaracer2/usr/lib/mozilla     WARNING: /home/h0ndaracer2/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux/home/h0ndaracer2/usr/lib/mozilla is not a directory.10:58
strabesmatt_____: using nano instead of gedit10:58
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matt_____does /dev/hdb sound right?10:58
strabesmatt_____: yes, that's the most likely place10:58
jevangeloubuntu sparc allows you to install using the lamp install option right?10:58
matt_____so10:58
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matt_____what do i want to ADD to fstab?10:59
jon_matt___ if x breaks you could use nano, vi, or emacs to edit the files10:59
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strabesjon_: i just said that :)10:59
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jon_I lag :(11:00
jon_I lag on irc - it is a sad day11:00
strabesmatt_____: you're going to want to add a line that says something like "/dev/sdb /media/nameyouwant ext3 defaults 0 0"11:00
strabesmatt_____: and you'll also have to "sudo mkdir /media/nameyouwant"11:00
matt_____ok, i used nano instead of gedit, it loks a whole lot simpler11:01
matt_____oh, i already have it at /home/matt/data11:01
strabesmatt_____: to save files in nano, use ctrl + o, and to exit use ctrl + x11:01
strabesmatt_____: you already have /home/matt/data made?11:01
matt_____yes11:01
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strabesthen change the /media/nameyouwant in the fstab line i wrote to /home/matt/data11:02
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slicky_i have retard computer it likes to play stupid game all time11:02
strabesmatt_____: what is it formatted to?11:02
matt_____what do i type for option?11:02
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strabesmatt_____: i mean what filesystem is it11:02
matt_____its ext311:02
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strabesok11:02
jevangelodoes ubuntu sparc 6.06 give you an option for a lamp server?11:02
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strabesmatt_____: /dev/sdb /home/matt/data ext3 defaults 0 011:03
ubunugh, ok so i enable backports and install flash9 and it fixes all my sound movies, great, PROBLEM is now X keeps crashing and like big time crashing where i cna't even ctrl+alt+backspace out, i have to hit the reset button :/. i want to move my important data to /media/hda1 and burn from my windows partition but it wont let me copy, says it's a read-only file system. any ideas?11:03
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matt_____and what is the defaults and 0   0 doing?11:03
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strabesmatt_____: never mind about those, just put them in there11:04
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acei'm back11:04
strabesmatt_____: what does sudo fdisk -l return?11:04
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matt_____ok, im going to save, and restart to test it, if i just do ctr alt backspace, will that work?11:04
strabesmatt_____: no you'll have to restart your computer. don't do it yet though11:05
strabesmatt_____: i want to make sure you have the right /dev/ location11:05
kittykittyi'm having a problem with ubuntu after i moved it from one computer to another, X doesnt find any screens and the error is (EE) No devices detected.11:05
strabesmatt_____: what does sudo fdisk -l return?11:05
matt_____looks like invalid11:06
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matt_____fdisk: invalid option -- 111:06
matt_____Usage: fdisk [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK     Change partition table11:06
fiveironanyone?11:06
matt_____       fdisk -l [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK  List partition table(s)11:06
matt_____       fdisk -s PARTITION           Give partition size(s) in blocks11:06
matt_____       fdisk -v                     Give fdisk version11:06
matt_____Here DISK is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda11:06
matt_____and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda711:06
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matt_____-u: give Start and End in sector (instead of cylinder) units11:06
matt_____-b 2048: (for certain MO disks) use 2048-byte sectors11:06
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strabeskittykitty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:06
matt_____wait! i think i need to add a 1 at the end of the decice in /etc/fstab11:07
matt_____sound right?11:07
matt_____for the partition, not the drive?11:07
strabesmatt_____: probably but you typed the fdisk wrong11:07
strabesit's an -L not 111:07
strabeslowercase L11:07
matt_____oh, lol11:07
strabessudo fdisk -l11:07
strabeswhat does that return?11:07
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[Relic] anyone good with disk mount problems of a disk that was divided into sections?11:08
Infelizchange ur stupid nick matt_____11:08
[Relic] can't figure out what I need to do to get the 3rd section mounted on my HD11:08
strabes!ask | [Relic] 11:08
ubotu[Relic] : Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:08
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aceHi all11:08
[Relic] if no one is awake what good is that?  :)11:09
acecan someone help me with software raid?11:09
strabes[Relic] : what is the filesystem? and what does sudo fdisk -l return ?11:09
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strabes!raid | ace11:09
ubotuace: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO11:09
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acethe combined disks are slower than the individual disks11:09
[Relic] strabes, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37457/   <-   this is what I get when I try11:09
strabesace: i know nothing about raid but i thought those sites could help you11:09
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matt_____strabes, here it is.... Disk /dev/hda: 82.3 GB, 82348277760 bytes11:09
matt_____255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10011 cylinders11:09
matt_____Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes11:09
matt_____   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System11:09
matt_____/dev/hda1   *           1        9634    77385073+  83  Linux11:09
matt_____/dev/hda2            9635       10011     3028252+   5  Extended11:09
matt_____/dev/hda5            9635       10011     3028221   82  Linux swap / Solaris11:09
matt_____Disk /dev/hdb: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes11:09
matt_____255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders11:09
matt_____Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes11:09
matt_____   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System11:09
matt_____/dev/hdb1               1       24792   199141708+   7  HPFS/NTFS11:09
matt_____Disk /dev/sda: 6 MB, 6799360 bytes11:10
matt_____1 heads, 32 sectors/track, 415 cylinders11:10
matt_____Units = cylinders of 32 * 512 = 16384 bytes11:10
kittykittycan i suggest pastebin instead of pasting directly into irc?11:10
matt_____   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System11:10
matt_____/dev/sda1   *           1         415        6627+   1  FAT1211:10
aceI installed it as raid1, should i have picked raid5? for performance?11:10
matt_____Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:11:10
matt_____     phys=(207, 0, 32) logical=(414, 0, 32)11:10
strabesmatt_____: which is the one you're trying to mount?11:10
ace!paste > matt_____11:10
wimpieshi all, I run 2.6.17.1-10-34 and for some reason my sound modules claim missing symbols.11:10
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ace!pastebin > matt_____11:10
[Relic] I am thinking something went wrong with whatever I used to break up the disk when I originally installed11:10
matt_____the 200gb11:10
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wimpiesMy laptop runs 2.6.17-10.33 and has no problems11:10
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jhassedoes somebody know a good svn gui program? (rapidsvn does not work)11:10
wimpiesare there know issues ? How should I fix this ? downgrade ? How do I downgrade ?11:11
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matt_____i need to add me a 1 don't i to the /etc/fstab11:11
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SilentDis'lo :)11:11
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prowerHello :> Kind of an off-topic question, but does anyone use Demonoid much here?11:11
SilentDisdemonoid?11:12
SilentDis!demonoid11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about demonoid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
strabes[relic] : did you format /dev/sda3 as ext3?11:12
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prowerSilentDis: It's a torrent site :>11:12
SilentDisprower: ahhhh11:12
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matt_____do i need to add the 1?11:12
SilentDisprower:  apprarently, i am clueless on it.  ignorance is bliss!  :D11:12
cafuego_does it carry Ubuntu torrents?11:13
strabesmatt_____: i don't know. try it and see11:13
noelferreirai have no audio ouput in edgy amd64 since i installed firefox for 32 bits. i follow this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava. Does anyone knows why?11:13
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matt_____rebooting!11:13
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jhassedoes somebody know a svn gui?11:14
[Relic] strabes, I don't think it is formatted, I oringially thought the program I used to divide it up was doing that and since I wasn't going to use that section till I needed to back up I never checked it11:14
sm0kie_is debian == ubuntu ???11:14
jribjhasse: rapidsvn11:14
sm0kie_similar?11:14
Moosejawwhats the keyboard command to take a screenshot?11:14
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cafuego_sm0kie_: Debian is not Ubuntu. They both use .deb format packages.11:15
jribMoosejaw: PrintScreen11:15
strabes[Relic] : ok then sudo apt-get install gparted11:15
strabes[Relic] : then run sudo gparted &11:15
b08yMoosejaw: Print button, under GNOME11:15
strabesthen format /dev/sda3 as ext311:15
strabesthen talk to me11:15
noelferreiraplease help!11:15
noelferreiraplease help!11:15
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noelferreirai have no audio ouput in edgy amd64 since i installed firefox for 32 bits. i follow this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava. Does anyone knows why?11:16
SilentDisapparently, exploits for Windows Vista are ON SALE now, some hitting the $20k and up mark.  i think we're all in the wrong business.  O.o11:16
ub12Moosejaw use the "print Screen" button top right hand corner next to the F12 key11:16
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sm0kie_everybody give me a hip hip cuz im going to install ubuntu now11:17
sm0kie_:)11:17
kittykittythanks strabes11:18
SilentDissm0kie_:  welcome to the fold :)11:18
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strabeskittykitty: it worked? cool glad i could help11:18
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kittykittyyeah took 2 reboots cause auto detect broke at both graphic card and monitor :P11:19
strabeskittykitty: yeah that is a pain sometimes11:19
matt_____hello? after i rebooted and trying to automount a drive after editing fstab, the drive didn't mount, and i can't mount it manually11:19
strabessm0kie_: hip hip11:19
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SilentDismatt:  what are you trying to mount, and what error is given?11:20
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[Relic] strabes, that was the problem, guess it never actually got formatted11:20
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matt_____strabes was helping me, but, im trying to mount a 200gb hard drive (internal), there is no error, it just didn't mount11:20
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kittykittywhat command are you using to mount it matt?11:20
strabesmatt_____ kittykitty: he's trying to do it in fstab11:21
strabes[Relic] : ok so now it's formatted as ext3 right?11:21
matt_____i edited /etc/fstab11:21
matt_____yes11:21
DarstCan someone please help - dire situation - Ubunut wont boot up and i have some digital photos that havent been backed up... diagnosis or at least suggestions on where to start Googling is needed - please11:21
bradleyi am looking for a substitute for the window list for my panel. i want something that just displays icons without words. does anyone know of an applet like this?11:21
SilentDismatt:  what was the line in /etc/fstab you used, and have you ever got it to mount from a prompt?11:21
Darst*Ubunut11:21
[Relic] strabes, yes11:21
kittykittygoto shell type in "mount <shortname>"11:21
kittykittytell us what it says11:21
Darst*Ubuntu... you can see I am stressed :P11:21
matt_____shortname?11:21
strabes[Relic] : ok where do you want to mount it? i would recommend somewhere in /media11:21
SilentDisDarst:  how far does it get, any errors, what happens exactly?11:21
green_earzmatt_____: dose the machine boot to the command line ?11:21
matt_____i mounted it in /home/matt/data11:21
kittykittyin fstab you can give them shortnames instead of /dev/ or /mnt/ directories11:22
matt_____how....11:22
kittykittyanyways, just try "mount /dev/devicename" then11:22
matt_____why...11:22
[Relic] strabes, already mounted it where I wanted it, however there is a locked lost+found directory on it11:22
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strabesmatt_____ needs to figure out where ubuntu is telling him his internal HD is11:22
DarstSilentDis the boot screen gets about a third of the way along the progress bar and then the logo goes grey, the hdd continues to be accessed (light allmost consgtant) and then nothing... just sits11:22
Moosejawdo any of you guys routinely use beryl/xgl???11:22
strabes[Relic] : where did you mount it? do a sudo chmod 777 -R /path/to/it11:22
SilentDisDarst:  got a live cd sitting around you can throw in and boot from?11:22
strabesMoosejaw: yes. !ask11:23
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strabes!ask | Moosejaw11:23
ubotuMoosejaw: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:23
DarstSilentDis - yup able to boot (takes a really long time) from the CD11:23
SilentDisdarst:  if anything, you can fsck the drive, and/or mount it and back up data at least.11:23
Moosejaw?11:23
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strabesMoosejaw: what do you want to know about xgl/beryl11:23
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kittykittyi'm sure there are many manuals that cover the working of fstab but since this is a text based chat, me reading the manual to you is an intellectually bankrupt action11:23
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DarstSilentDis fsck - will google that one...11:23
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medic30420i have a problem with ssh, after doing some updates via apt-get, I can no longer remote into the box from any other computers.  i "ssh user@brokenbox" and get a password prompt, i enter in the correct password and get... Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password).  any help?11:23
Moosejawnothing...just wondering if you guys have found it stable enough to run as default.11:23
SilentDisdarst:  it's the file system checker11:23
noelferreirai have no audio ouput in edgy amd64 since i installed firefox for 32 bits. i follow this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava. Does anyone knows why?11:23
SilentDis!fsck | darst11:24
ubotudarst: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot11:24
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strabesMoosejaw: if you install it correctly, it is very stable. i hear aiglx is even more stable if your card supports it11:24
matt_____i added this to fstab /dev/hdb1       /home/matt/data ext3    defaults        0       011:24
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Moosejawhow do i check if my card supports it?  where can i check?11:24
DarstSilentDis if I sudo touch /fastboot from the Cd will that avoid the fsck on the hdd boot next time ? (afayk)11:24
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strabesmatt_____ and everyone else helping him: matt just needs to know if the /dev/hdb1 is correct11:24
kittykittyok matt, goto a shell and type "mount /dev/hdb1" and tell us the specific error11:24
strabesDarst: i believe so11:25
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SilentDismatt:  try this:  /dev/hdb1 /home/matt/data ext3 defaults,rw,user 0 011:25
matt_____so how to i check?11:25
matt_____try the other without the 1?11:25
SilentDisDarst:  nope, it won't.11:25
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kittykittyjust goto shell and see if you can actually mount the partition first11:25
strabesMoosejaw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:25
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SilentDisdarst:  it's easy to run manually though.  do you know how many partitions on your machine, or is there just one?11:25
kittykittyif you can't there isn't any point in rebooting to see if fstab could11:25
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DarstSilentDis OK then... should I be able to see the HDD from the CD boot11:25
DarstSilentDis just one11:25
SilentDisDarst:  from a terminal:  sudo fsck /dev/hda111:26
green_earzMoosejaw: put the card in the machine and then goto > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/  and see if the is a driver for it11:26
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DarstSilentDis just waiting for it to boot from the CD at the moment...11:26
strabesmatt_____ kittykitty: i would have told him to do that but i thought he knew where it was in /dev11:26
matt_____hum...now it won't mount. it would mount before i edited fstab11:26
SilentDisDarst:  understood :)11:26
DarstSilentDis as soon as I get that done I will let you know what happens :)11:26
kittykittymatt: Application -> Accessories -> Terminal11:26
medic30420sorry to repost: how do i disable gssapi-with-mic authentication in ssh?11:26
SilentDisDarst:  okes.  :)11:26
DarstSilentDis Many thanks for the advice to date11:26
DarstMany many thanks11:27
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kittykittystill with me matt ?11:27
wasabi__hello11:27
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SilentDisDarst:  no worries.  i had a drive die on me recently.  had to go through this myself to get as much data as I could (was about 3 days off my weekly backup job running, heh)11:27
pr3d4t0rGreetings.11:27
pr3d4t0rwasabi_!11:27
foureight84i need some help with gnome-session-properties11:27
foureight84hi pr3d4t0r11:27
matt_____kittykitty, it wouldn't mount in shell. it would before i edited the fstab11:28
PenguinAttacksHello friends11:28
kittykittyok can you tell me the error you're getting when you try to mount it manually please11:28
matt_____ok11:28
[Relic] strabes,  thanks for all the help, I just couldn't get it mounted before but since it was only a formatting problem once that was done I was pretty well set, I just wanted to double up on my backup on some important files (DVD and HD) before I install a new version11:28
foureight84when i add beryl-manager to startup programs, it won't save on the list11:28
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PenguinAttacksis there an easy way to reinstall ubuntu without formatting the harddrive/partition?11:28
DarstSilentDis if the drive reports ok - should I be able to move the necessary data to my USB drive ?11:28
kittykittydon't copy/paste the whole thing you just need the pertinant data11:28
pr3d4t0rQ. What is the default runlevel for Ubuntu Edgy running as a server?  I have it as 2, but most servers I dealt with (non-Ubuntu) say 5.  What's the rationale of running the server in basic multi-user mode instead of full?11:28
matt_____is it sudo mount ......11:28
foureight84after i close session properties and run it again, it's not there11:29
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pr3d4t0rQ. (part 2), i.e. runlevels 3 or 5?11:29
SilentDisDarst:  yes, that's an option... i'd recommend checking the drive right quick to see if anything kicked out in it's logs though11:29
strabes[Relic] : cool glad i could help11:29
medic30420penguin attacks, use the text based install, should let you skip that section11:29
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[Relic] off to finish my backing up and then get a new version installed, later all  :)11:29
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matt_____how can i manually try to mount it?11:30
PenguinAttacksThanks, I'll google it :)11:30
foureight84anyone?11:30
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florideshello11:30
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kittykittyyou can just type in "mount /dev/hdb1"11:30
foureight84gnome-session-properties won't save changes i make to the startup programs11:30
SilentDisdarst:  i'd personally mount it and sift through logs first, just to see what is going on11:30
Administratorfoureight84, i believe there is a option to save sessions.11:31
kittykittyif you have it specified in fstab it'll try to mount it11:31
florideskann i ask you something?11:31
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acei'm going to reinstall with another file system, maybe xfs and raid don't work so well11:31
foureight84yea i turn that on but it still doesn't do it11:31
matt_____how....what do i do?11:31
acebye all11:31
Administratorfoureight84, else try checking out the gnome dotfiles11:31
foureight84which dotfile in particular?11:31
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Administratorfoureight84, or, adding a new options11:31
kittykittymatt: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal11:31
matt_____ok11:31
floridesdoes anyone know a tool to data recovery?11:31
Administratorfoureight84, dunno, try grep -r keywork *11:32
kittykittywait for it to load, then type in "mount /dev/hdb1"11:32
SilentDisbrb all...11:32
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fiveironanyone at all using lirc?11:32
bluefox_ok, has anyone ever heard of an issue with booting the ubuntu installer/live cd and getting an interrupt error wben you click the run /install button?11:32
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PenguinAttacks<3333311:32
foureight84okay11:32
foureight84i will be back11:32
bluefox_my gf's comp is messed up and wont accept ubuntu :(11:32
matt_____thats weird, at first it told me only root could do it. then i tried again using sudo. but it told me the dir doesn't exist11:33
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kittykittybluefox_: have you tried booze ? :P11:33
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aSherwoodhola peoples11:33
SNowbornhi11:33
kittykittymatt: ok thats what i wanted to hear11:33
bluefox_kittykitty, if only that would work :D11:33
SNowborncan someone help me setting up a twinview / 2nd monitor?11:33
bluefox_hrm11:33
bluefox_how do i ssh into a knoppix machine to take off stuff from the hard drive?11:33
matt_____so what do i do kitty?11:33
bluefox_or a machine running an old version of knoppix?11:34
SNowborntried some so far by the howto, but still does not work11:34
kittykittymatt: can you try "mount /dev/hdb1 /home/matt/data"11:34
aSherwoodhey I had a couple of questions... installed ubuntu 6.10 last night and I set up a screensaver on it for 5 minutes, but no matter how long you leave it idle the screensaver doesn't come on... any ideas how I could find out why?11:34
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matt_____sudo it though, right?11:34
matt_____once again, it "doesn't exist"11:35
SNowbornjust one monitor, when i start another server with gdmflexiserver, just the other screen turns on11:35
kittykittyok, "cd /home/matt"11:35
kittykittyls and see if your "data" directory is listed11:35
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michaelirc.station51.net11:36
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matt_____not sure whats happening, it does nothing11:36
matt_____sorta11:36
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kittykittyit just pop up a new prompt line?11:36
kittykittytry ls -la11:36
matt_____yes11:36
kittykittyit'll say "total 0" if there are no files11:36
matt_____i can cd /home11:36
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SNowbornanyone good in xorg.conf? (twinview? :P )11:37
kittykittywell looks like we found your problem? no /home/matt/data directory ?11:37
djjasonI am having a problem with xrandr. I can rotate the screen...e.g. to the left...but the resolution does not change so the screen becomes useless....any ideas?11:37
matt_____not sure, i can see it in nautalis11:37
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pr3d4t0rQ. vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-amd64-generic - that's what I was running from Dapper, vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic - that's what it "upgraded" for Edgy.  How can I tell Edgy to install the AMD kernel instead?  Thanks in advance.11:37
kittykittyyou might be being fooled by nautalis, ls while in /home11:38
brucedesI want to install ubuntu onto an external usb drive, but it won't properly partition it. Installation always crashes at 15% Anyone know what I should do?11:38
l3mr!tell pr3d4t0r about generic11:38
l3mr!generic11:38
ubotuBackground to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html11:38
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matt_____i did, it showed up MATT, meaning matt is there, but i can't cd /home/matt11:38
pr3d4t0rl3mr: Thanks.11:39
kittykittywell these are case sensitive11:39
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kittykittytry "cd /home/MATT"11:39
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matt_____well11:39
aSherwoodwould someone have a minute to help me with an install of Edgy?11:39
SilentDisquick question:  ide drives appear as /dev/hd*, do sata drives appear differently?11:39
matt_____its not really upercase, i just showed emphasis11:39
kittykittyoh11:39
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cafuego_SilentDis: Yes, they appear as scsi drives, /dev/sd*11:40
SlartSilentDis: mine appear as sda1, sda2 etc11:40
SilentDisthanks cafuego_ :)11:40
pr3d4t0rl3mr: Interesting.11:40
matt_____but, you say its case sensative? because data is Data, if i change the fstab, should it work?11:40
Slartwell.. what cafuego said =)11:40
kittykittyperhaps11:40
SNowbornaSherwood: what is the prob?11:40
matt_____because i just did cd /home/matt/Data, and it worked11:40
pr3d4t0rl3mr: Given that my server has four cores, should I assume that this will use all four if a multi-threaded app hits it?11:40
kittykittybut can you "cd /home" then "cd matt" ?11:40
aSherwoodset up the screensaver for 5 minutes, but no matter how long you leave it on, it doesn't come on11:40
kittykittyok11:40
l3mrpr3d4t0r: yes, smp is enabled in generic11:40
aSherwoodps reveals that the screensaver service is running11:40
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matt_____no, just comes up blank11:41
kittykittywell try "mount /dev/hdb1 /home/matt/Data"11:41
pr3d4t0rl3mr: Cool - thanks.11:41
aSherwoodso I'm afraid that's the extent of my troubleshooting ability here11:41
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kittykittyif you "pwd" it'll show you your current working directory, if you're not sure if the cd is wrking you can "pwd" before and affter issuing the command to see if it changed11:41
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matt_____it mounted11:41
kittykittycongrats11:41
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kittykittyso now i must club you with the "SHIFT and CAPS" keys of doom11:42
matt_____but i want it to automount, if i edit fstab and make it Data, should that do it?11:42
SNowbornchecked all the boxes in the settings screen for screensaver?11:42
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kittykittyit should, if you set it to auto in the fstab11:42
aSherwoodAll the ones I know how to check11:42
aSherwoodall the ones in the Screensaver dialog11:42
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matt_____auto?                                             /dev/hdb1       /home/matt/data ext3    defaults        0       011:43
aSherwoodis there another place to edit screensaver settings?11:43
ryanakcawhy doesn't my sudoers file give root access to the pbuilders only to the builders group? http://dpaste.com/3836/11:43
wimpiesmatt____ : auto,defaults11:43
kittykitty:P11:43
matt_____should defaults be auto?11:43
wimpiesno defaults is not auto11:43
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matt_____i mean, do i TYPE auto,defaults11:43
foureight84hi again11:43
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wimpiesyes you do11:43
kittykittyyou can if you want11:44
matt_____lol, but will it make it WORK?11:44
foureight84so gnome-session startups still won't save the modifications i add to it11:44
SNowbornaSherwood: hm, guess not11:44
wimpiesshould11:44
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dafanGah, after I upgraded beryl my screen lost the window decorations.11:44
SNowbornwas still checking in energy settings, but nth related to scrsaver11:44
dafanIt's worked perfectly fine since hte upgrade.11:44
aSherwoodalso there are some menus where settings don't stick11:44
wimpiesbtw : does any of you know if I can download previous package versions ?11:45
aSherwoodfor instance, when in Nibbles, if I try to turn sound on, close the window, open it again and sound is off..11:45
SNowbornlike where?11:45
foureight84anyone?11:45
SNowbornhm, no clue there....11:45
aSherwoodeven though the sound works fine throuh XMMS, etc11:45
wimpiesI need to downgrade from 2.6.17.1-10.34 to 2.6.17-10.3311:45
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gnomefreakwimpies: good luck on that. since the kernel version didnt change all you will find is 34 most likely11:46
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gnomefreakwimpies: nvidia issues?11:46
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dafan11:46
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wimpiesgnomefreak : no my snd_hda_intel claims missing symbols11:47
wimpiesnvidia is running fine11:47
kittykittydid you manually build your alsa drivers?11:47
dafan11:47
SNowbornaSherwood: hm, screen stays all the same?11:47
gnomefreakthats a first.11:47
DrMushroom#join11:47
aSherwoodyup11:47
gnomefreakSakarias_: please stop with the chars11:47
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wimpieshmm, that is a good question ... could be ...11:47
gnomefreakack11:47
gnomefreakdafan: stop with the chars please11:47
gnomefreakwimpies: give me a minute i know who to ask but not sure if hes here11:48
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gnomefreakwimpies: hes not on right now but he would know about it11:48
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wimpiesgnomefreak : who ?11:48
floridesho all11:48
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floridesyou know a data recovery tool?11:49
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SNowbornaSherwood: sorry, not any furtger clue right now11:49
gnomefreakjdong i found him i just pinged him11:49
aSherwoods'ok, SNowborn11:49
SNowbornanyone help on my twinview prob?11:49
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aSherwoodI gotta go now to make the LUG meeting tonight... thanks for your help11:49
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aSherwoodeven if you can't help it's nice to ask a question in a linux support room and not hear "RTFM" over and over again11:50
SNowborn:D11:50
dooglusI've uninstalled the 'usplash' package, but I still see the splash when I boot, and my virtual consoles still get corrupted.  how can I disable the boot-time graphics?11:50
aSherwoodanyways bye everyone11:50
christianeHello again. Is the pkg "xorg-fglrx-driver" the open source one or the binary from ati?11:50
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wimpiesgnomefreak : it looks as if my alsa-base package is available for upgrade so I presume I did not change my alsa\11:50
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doogluschristiane: I believe that's the proprietary driver11:51
kittykittydooglus, do you have a boot manager that is using splash ?11:51
Fozziesilentdis, Evening.  Need that link for the ATI FGLRX installation again.  I had to backpedal a bit when my installation of Beryl didn't work out11:51
doogluskittykitty: boot manager?  I use 'grub' if that's what you mean11:51
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kittykittydoes your grub.conf include a bootsplash image?11:51
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slyboots_Hi11:52
paranoia16thank you all for helping me automount my hard drive!!!11:52
kittykittyif so, try removing it so it loads in text mode11:52
gnomefreakwimpies: try updating it might help11:52
christiane(I was a little confused because its name begins with xorg-...) What do I have to install if I want to use the open driver?11:52
FozzieSilentDis basically, the Direct Rendering is back at No again, and its reading Mesa Drivers11:52
paranoia16man, i never had this much free help in windows!!!!!!11:52
doogluskittykitty: there's no grub.conf on my disk11:52
alekaI am usinh Ubuntu 6.10. All off a sudden my ;shift; keys seems to have stopped working. it works when i am holding shit and selecting multiple items, but i can not use shift while typing... the only settings i was tinkering with was beryl manager... what happened/what did i do wrong//11:52
kittykittymenu.lst ?11:52
gnomefreakdont hold me to that (im not much of a sound guy)11:52
wimpiesgnomefreak : I did an apt-get update / upgrade but there is nothing available11:52
wimpiesgnomefreak : loading modules is not sound ...11:52
gnomefreakwimpies: the couple of people i just asked dont know either11:53
kittykittyit'll be in the /boot/grub/ directory (or your / (root) if you didn't specify a seperate boot partition)11:53
SilentDisfozzie:  heya :)  what vid card are you running again?11:53
hujciwdupewhat do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???11:53
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Ka[R] aN11:53
Ka[R] aNsessiz olun lan11:53
gnomefreakcrimsun_: you busy by chnace?11:53
FozzieSilentDis, Its the ATI Radeon 200m11:53
nevronkaran ahahaha11:53
nevronnooldu sinirin mi bozuldu :D11:53
ryanakcawhy doesn't my sudoers file give root access to the pbuilders only to the builders group? http://dpaste.com/3836/11:53
Ka[R] aNbam aryo11:53
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doogluskittykitty: the word 'splash' appears in that file, yes11:53
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nevron:)11:53
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Fozziesilentdis if i recall, the link had something about Binarydriver11:53
Ka[R] aNnevron11:53
wimpieshmm I just did an update/upgrade on my laptop and there the snd modules load ... ;-(((11:53
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nevron?11:53
kittykittydooglus put a big # infront of that line11:54
SilentDisfozzie:  oh, i remember you :)  change it back over to the right one again.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:54
gnomefreakKa[R] aN: english in here please11:54
Ka[R] aNgnomefreak Turkish in here please11:54
slyboots_Its a ISO file mounted via Loopback on my drive, When I attempt to open the DVD with VLC, it Segfauls (error 4) :(11:54
SilentDisfozzie:  not sure what caused it to just jump to the mesa one though ...11:54
SNowborntwinview probs, help anyone?11:54
Ka[R] aNdodummu blerim bee11:54
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kittykittyi had same problem with my laptop using intel chipset and grub's bootsplash would corrupt image till i got bakc into X11:54
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floridesdata recovery tool?11:54
Ka[R] aNEvet.11:54
Ka[R] aNnaslm ama nevron11:55
floridesis ther anyone who is t familiar with?11:55
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gnomefreakkaptengu: keep it english in here11:55
Ka[R] aNYoksa beni beenmiyormusunuz11:55
ryanakcathat's turkish11:55
ryanakca!tk11:55
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:55
FozzieSilentDis well, i tried to uninstall Beryl (it was taking 100% cpu) but when i did, it removed my desktop entirely so i had to go through the prompt at bootup.  WIth my limited knowledge, i deleted the xonf and restored the backup but for some reason that also removed the Direct Render11:55
SilentDisturkish is... tu or tr i thought11:55
christiane!tr11:55
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.11:55
DarstSilentDis sorry dropped connection11:55
ryanakcakk11:55
DarstSilentDis just registering nick11:55
SilentDisdarst:  no worries :)11:56
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=== ryanakca Ka[R] aN hello
gnomefreakryanakca: gone11:56
SilentDisfozzie:  ahhhh11:56
ryanakcaoops... that was supposed to be /msg11:56
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SilentDisfozzie:  just reset it.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:56
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gnomefreakryanakca: he knew english11:57
ryanakcagnomefreak: he did? heh11:57
gnomefreakyes11:57
gnomefreakryanakca: he also knew wrong channel ;)11:57
ryanakca:)11:57
gnomefreakthats why i stopped warning him11:57
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ryanakcalol11:57
gnomefreakhello rob :)11:58
hujciwdupewhat do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???11:58
ryanakcahey rob11:58
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ryanakcawhy doesn't my sudoers file give root access to the pbuilders only to the builders group? http://dpaste.com/3836/11:58
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gnomefreakryanakca: does it ever?11:58
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EmxBAcan someone help me with ubuntu wiki?11:58
gnomefreakryanakca: i dont think ive ever needed root in pbuilder11:59
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christianeI installed xorg-driver-fglrx. `fglrxinfo` tells me something about "mesa3d.org", not "ATI Corp.". Is that right?11:59
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nevronit is not11:59
vampiraI need linux Ati Radeon drivers??11:59
vampiraubunto radeon?11:59
hujciwdupeits been like that for a while i think11:59
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jesseWell my ati radeon graphics card has worked ever since i installed ubuntu12:00

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