[12:13] <T3hWiz0rd> dope: then don't use it
[12:14] <hujciwdupe> wimpies,it sais command not found
[12:14] <wimpies> it means it is not installed : install tofrodos package
[12:15] <hujciwdupe> wimpies, great , ty
[12:15] <ninHer> hi all
[12:15] <LjL> dope: it does? wow
[12:16] <billytwowilly> lol. kwallet doesn't hold your passwords in plain text.
[12:16] <dope> when i opened it for kopete i could see my aim password
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> billytwowilly
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> sen gates oLan msn ?=
[12:16] <cloakable> Is there a way to tell avahi not to configure an interface that already has an ip?
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> billytwowilly
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> sen gates oLan msn ?=
[12:16] <Dingiltereliler_> ubuntu yoksa kubuntu var lan
[12:16] <LjL> dope: err, if you have it *open*, it means you can access the passwords, of course...
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> Leysen sen benim babamsn
[12:16] <billytwowilly> moraLim_SinirLi: I don't understand what you are saying.
[12:16] <LjL> !en
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[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> billytwowilly annenin am
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> pi
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> o sen diiLsin
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> git
[12:16] <christiane> dope: If kdeallet must provide passwords to apps/sites/whatever it must store them, not only hashes. And snake-oiling them is not a good security policy.
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> it ogLu it
[12:16] <LjL> !ops
[12:16] <Dingiltereliler_> ubotu adam ol
[12:16] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adam ol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <moraLim_SinirLi> biLL gates oL geL
[12:17] <Dingiltereliler_> !op
[12:17] <Dingiltereliler_> !hop
[12:17] <moraLim_SinirLi> LjL ckma anneni sikerim
[12:17] <moraLim_SinirLi> opa
[12:17] <Dingiltereliler_> !heyytt
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <moraLim_SinirLi> /cs invite #ops
[12:17] <moraLim_SinirLi> :))))))
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about heyytt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <moraLim_SinirLi> ben bir hakerim
[12:17] <moraLim_SinirLi> :))
[12:17] <moraLim_SinirLi> caLarm
[12:17] <moraLim_SinirLi> sizi
[12:17] <Dingiltereliler_> /oper berkes kd90+d-E
[12:17] <moraLim_SinirLi> /oper moraLim_SinirLi hepinizinannesinisikeyimmmmbacakomuzyaparak
[12:18] <moraLim_SinirLi> sustunuz
[12:18] <moraLim_SinirLi> ne oLdu
[12:18] <moraLim_SinirLi> korktunuzmu
[12:18] <yarak> :))
[12:18] <yarak_kafali> ben geldim
[12:18] <Chousuke> ...
[12:18] <yarak_kafali> Kafamda sa yok ama
[12:18] <yarak_kafali> idare edin
[12:18] <LjL> !ops
[12:18] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[12:18] <yarak> Chousuke cuku cuku korkma
[12:18] <yarak> :)
[12:18] <yarak> actmaz
[12:18] <Chousuke> Go away.
[12:19] <yarak> Chousuke hee tamam
[12:19] <yarak> ondan
[12:19] <zorglu_> hmm some kind of attack ?
[12:19] <Chousuke> Just some lamers I suppose.
[12:19] <cloakable> Probably
[12:19] <LjL> yeah, it's called an idiots attack
[12:19] <manuleviking> yes
[12:19] <yarak> zorglu_ zoroglU nun sahibisi oLan m
[12:19] <yarak> ?
[12:19] <yarak_kafali> zorglu_ sen zorlu birine benziyon
[12:19] <yarak_kafali> muhabbetimize karma
[12:19] <manuleviking> stupid lamers
[12:19] <yarak> manuleviking anan sikerim kime sus diom
[12:19] <cloakable> Indeed
[12:19] <yarak> am biti
[12:19] <manuleviking> LjL: exactly
[12:19] <yarak> ndeed sana girsin
[12:19] <yarak_kafali> manuleviking Chickens are hired for an authentic rustic feel.
[12:19] <yarak_kafali> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12:19] <yarak_kafali> 
[12:19] <yarak_kafali> What might this shed some light on?
[12:19] <yarak_kafali> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[12:19] <yarak> LjL bacnn amna koyaym
[12:20] <cloakable> Well, untill an oper gets here, /ignore does the trick
[12:20] <manuleviking> yarak: pauvre con
[12:20] <yarak> merlihin_kazani
[12:20] <yarak> :))
[12:20] <yarak> manuleviking yemek mi istion yarak
[12:20] <LjL> !traffic
[12:20] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[12:20] <yarak> ubotu oLmad be yavrum
[12:20] <yarak> :)
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oLmad be yavrum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <yarak> /notice $* oLcak
[12:20] <yarak> :D
[12:20] <yarak_kafali> Last months Ive been busy with some projects at work, involving some Qt programming, dealing with Cisco JTAPI and other nuisances, which have prevented me from working in eBox. My work desktop is about a meter away from the now three full-time developer eBox team, so Ive been closely following the development process and participating in some design meetings and at last, Ive found some time to write nice stuff for it again.
[12:21] <yarak_kafali> please man help me
[12:21] <LjL> nalioth: yarak, yarak_kafali
[12:21] <yarak_kafali> yoksa hepinizi fuck me
[12:21] <yarak>  Madem Turksun Goster Urksunnn
[12:21] <yarak_kafali> Chickens are hired for an authentic rustic feel.
[12:21] <yarak>  iccen sarabi sikcen engLish
[12:21] <yarak> sizin bunyesi sikeyim ben
[12:22] <Gonen> lan adi
[12:22] <Gonen> ben Deli gnen
[12:22] <yarak> beeni op yapn
[12:22] <Gonen> kr ibo derler bana
[12:22] <yarak> chanserv
[12:22] <ace> Hi all
[12:22] <ace> can someone help me
[12:22] <nalioth> gnomefreak: got em
[12:22] <nalioth> ace: if you ask a question
[12:22] <ace> my software raid setup during install isn't working
[12:22] <gnomefreak> :) who i get
[12:23] <ace> qtparted shows /dev/hda2 has the stuff on it, but hdc2 shows nothing
[12:23] <LjL> gnomefreak: it's ok, nalioth took care of them
[12:23] <ace> its as if hdc2 isn't being used
[12:23] <ace> or even formatted
[12:23] <christiane> ace: cat /proc/mdstat
[12:23] <gnomefreak> LjL: i know im being caught up
[12:23] <manuleviking> gnomefreak: why there isn't a moderator permanently ?
[12:23] <ace> md0 : active raid1 hda2[0]  hdc2[1]                    58596992 blocks [2/2]  [UU]                unused devices: <none>
[12:24] <nalioth> manuleviking: there is no need for visible ops
[12:24] <morvok> has anyone noticed many (K)ubuntu documentation/how-to's are more difficult than they have to be.. especially when there are tools for such things.
[12:24] <gnomefreak> manuleviking: no need
[12:24] <manuleviking> gnomefreak: no need ?
[12:24] <cloakable> Yes?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> manuleviking: why do we need to always be oped?
[12:24] <LjL> manuleviking: ops can become so when it's needed. right now, there simply were no ops around
[12:25] <ace> christiane: the read speeds of /dev/md0 is about the same as the speed of an individual disk
[12:25] <gnomefreak> manuleviking: also wrong channel for this :)
[12:25] <manuleviking> LjL: ok
[12:25] <christiane> ace: So, what exactly is your problem?
[12:25] <ace> its slow
[12:25] <ace> and it doesn't seem to be working
[12:25] <ace> its a raid1
[12:26] <christiane> ace: It works. [UU]  shows that.
[12:26] <ace> i have two 60 gb partitions acting as 1 but the read speed is about 50, but the individual disks are also about 50, why isn't md0 at 100?
[12:26] <ace> since two disks are there for the data to be read from
[12:27] <christiane> ace: raid1 in linux seems to read both (all) disks to be sure to get correct data.
[12:28] <ace> so the same data on both disks is read?
[12:28] <ace> how do i make it read some from hdc and some from hda so that its twise as fast from reading from just one disk?
[12:29] <xenol_> plz where can i update my open office from 2.0 to 2.1?
[12:29] <Black5un> !tightvnc
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tightvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <christiane> ace: I'm not 100% sure but experienced the same on my raid1s
[12:29] <ace> what about raid0?
[12:29] <christiane> ace: raid0 is what you want (for speed) but not for redundancy
[12:30] <eMaX_> anyone here uses sshfs?
[12:30] <ace> oh i want speed, i'll have to look up redundancy first
[12:30] <juanjo> alguien habla espaol?
[12:30] <juanjo> hola a todos!
[12:30] <christiane> !es
[12:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:30] <ace> nope don't need redundancy
[12:30] <juanjo> gracias y disculpa
[12:31] <nalioth> juanjo:  :)
[12:31] <christiane> ace: Then raid0 is your friend
[12:31] <petryk_> hello
[12:31] <petryk_> :)
[12:32] <ace> ok i'll reinstall again
[12:32] <ace> Thank You
[12:33] <aristoteles> hi
[12:33] <aristoteles> i freshly installed edgy on my laptop
[12:33] <aristoteles> and something is weird
[12:34] <aristoteles> firstly, im told: laptop lid is closed, doing nothing now
[12:35] <bros> hi
[12:35] <aristoteles> secondly, when i highlight something in the k-menu, the focus moves away! to the first element in the menu.
[12:35] <aristoteles> what is happening here?
[12:35] <Toxicity999> Hey, @anyone, what exactly should I do with edgy to get the basic kde devel packages, kde-devel seems to be broken.
[12:36] <LjL> always used kdelibs-dev myself Toxicity999
[12:36] <Toxicity999> that gives me liblua drama.
[12:37] <Toxicity999> It's version mismatches after a certain point, when going the kdelibs-dev route anyway.
[12:39] <Toxicity999> Ah screw it, I'll get what I need on a case by case basis if the meta-packages are being mean.
[12:39] <dope> is there a linux equivelant to peer guardian?
[12:44] <PhinnFort> !seen yarak
[12:44] <aristoteles> when i unplug my keyboard, the problem is away
[12:44] <ubotu> I last saw yarak (n=java@85.98.97.117) 19m 7s ago, quiting: K-lined
[12:45] <cloakable> :)
[12:45] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:46] <cloakable> Yay for k-lined spammers :P
[12:46] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:46] <PhinnFort> spammers usually have a measurable IQ
[12:48] <aristoteles> xev reports keypress events every second
[12:49] <PhinnFort> aristoteles: long time since you cleaned out your kbd?
[12:49] <aristoteles> PhinnFort: no. it is the typematrix 2020.
[12:50] <aristoteles> it will be a problem of that model
[12:50] <PhinnFort> i would still suggest mechanical damage;)
[12:53] <petryk_> reboot
[12:57] <ubuntu> hhh
[12:58] <PhinnFort> hoao
[01:01] <Alarm> after installing an application , with make and so on. how can i remove it (more specific, gaim) dont mean from the package manager
[01:01] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[01:01] <Toxicity999> Ugh, kdelibs-dev and kde-devel = sooooo broken.
[01:02] <BioVorE> Alarm: possibly a "make uninstall" might work
[01:03] <Toxicity999> I guess I'm getting the deb and hacking up the dependancies manuallyu
[01:03] <Toxicity999> It's version mismatches.
[01:03] <BioVorE> Toxicity999: did you do something to your apt-cache ( use non ubuntu apt sources?), like automatrix and what not)
[01:04] <Toxicity999> shouldn't of. How does one purge the cache anywho. Never have had to.
[01:04] <BioVorE> well I am talking about your /etc/apt/sources.list file..
[01:04] <Toxicity999> I know.
[01:05] <Toxicity999> But this question is on another tree of. Lol.
[01:05] <Alarm> one more question. i did install the latest jdk, in my home directory. some apps couldnt find java. so i did copy it under /usr/java and the application started succesfuly. does that mean that i wont have any other problem with other applications either and my system recognises it as java being installed or just fixed that application and made it run and nothing more
[01:05] <Toxicity999> Any good Java app will look in common places, or have a userdefinable start-up file with that variable.
[01:06] <BioVorE> did you do something to change the apt sources to include some non-ubuntu source..   I know free-contrib messes kde development stuff up..
[01:06] <BioVorE> Alarm: try defining $JAVA_HOME enviroment varible
[01:06] <[Relic] > when running the installer does it automatically format everything, or is there a way I can keep one section of the drive from formatting?
[01:06] <Alarm> BioVorE:  how do i do that ?
[01:06] <Toxicity999> Well I know what you mean, and this is such an old install at this point I don't know. Being why I poked at just purging the old repo cache.
[01:07] <BioVorE> I am not sure of the exect name of the shell varible you need to export..    Try  export JAVA_HOME="<path_to_java>/"
[01:08] <BioVorE> [Relic] : You can tell the installer how to partion the disk.. more over it can also resize WinNT partitions as well..
[01:08] <Alarm> well did that, but nothing seemed to appear in the console
[01:08] <BioVorE> echo $JAVA_HOME
[01:08] <[Relic] > detected it properly, off to install  :)
[01:08] <Toxicity999> try, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:08] <Toxicity999> and exprot shouldnt return anything
[01:09] <Alarm> nothing...
[01:09] <BioVorE> all it dose is set a shell variable
[01:09] <Alarm> shows an empty thing space (though the java application did run. when i was having the java dir in my home directory it was telling me that java cant be found or to upgrade. the point is not to solve that problem only but have java good installed on my system
[01:09] <Erich-K> What's the best way to install gnome, to where if I ever want to remove it, it takes all the gnome stuff it installed, out
[01:10] <BioVorE> just apt-get install ubuntu-destop
[01:10] <BioVorE> then to remove it.. apt-ger remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <Erich-K> Awesome, thanks
[01:10] <LjL> Erich-K: if you install it using aptitude, everything will be removed when you remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:11] <BioVorE> kubuntu-desktop is the kde desktop
[01:11] <LjL> if you use apt-get, and you're on dapper, nothing will be removed. if you're on edgy, you can use "apt-get autoremove", but that didn't work quite smoothly with removing GNOME when i tried it
[01:11] <LjL> so i suggest using aptitude, if you think you might remove it in the future
[01:11] <Toxicity999> uh no because gnome things don't depend on ubuntu-desktop so removing it wont get rid of them
[01:11] <Alarm> i think it worked: alarm@rockpc:~/gaim-2.0.0beta5$ echo $JAVA_HOME
[01:11] <Alarm> /usr/java
[01:11] <Alarm> does that mean that everything is ok ?
[01:11] <Toxicity999> yea
[01:11] <BioVorE> uyea
[01:11] <Toxicity999> autoremove *should* do it
[01:11] <Erich-K> Could I use synaptic?
[01:12] <Toxicity999> no need to really
[01:12] <Alarm> BioVorE:  that yes was for me ? :)
[01:13] <bgsteffens> how can i unzip in kubuntu?
[01:13] <BioVorE> yeah.. if you do a echo $JAVA_HOME it should point to the java runtime
[01:13] <BioVorE> bgsteffens: apt-get install unzip
[01:13] <bgsteffens> ty
[01:13] <BioVorE> then "unzip <filename.zip>"
[01:13] <Alarm> thanks
[01:15] <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bantracker.stats True
[01:15] <Alarm> one more question . on Konsole although i did use the 'linux' schema , no colours do appear, everything is only white in black backround. i mean like directories with blue and so on. have i done something wrong ? cause i dont see anything in the configuration with the colours
[01:16] <BioVorE> try.. ls --color
[01:16] <Alarm> nothing
[01:16] <Alarm> still white everything
[01:16] <BioVorE> hmmmm
[01:16] <Alarm> tried other schemas no schem appears more than 1 colour
[01:17] <BioVorE> konsole with the linux color scheme here works fine
[01:18] <Alarm> should i remove it and install it again ? would maybe that fix ?or reset its settings somehow ?
[01:19] <murchadh_bhaba> Alarm, Can you change the scheme by right-clicking on the background?
[01:20] <BioVorE> nope.. I think it has to do with what you shell detects your terminal type to be
[01:20] <BioVorE> you get color if apps detect the terminal can do color
[01:20] <Alarm> murchadh_bhaba:  no, it doesnt give me that option
[01:20] <BioVorE> what dose "
[01:20] <BioVorE> echo $TERM" give you
[01:21] <BioVorE> xterm?
[01:21] <Alarm> xterm
[01:21] <BioVorE> hmmm
[01:21] <BioVorE> you prompt have no color as well?
[01:22] <Alarm> what do u mean with prompt ? sorry
[01:22] <BioVorE> you can try do this as a color test...
[01:23] <Alarm> try what
[01:24] <BioVorE> working on it.. 1 sec
[01:25] <BioVorE> can you send color VT100 chars to your terminal and get color?
[01:26] <gtwy> trying to compile something.. it errors and tells me that mpicc is not a valid command... what package do i need to install for this to work? there is not an mpicc packate...
[01:27] <Alarm> BioVorE:  how could i send color to VT100 and what is VT100  ?:)
[01:27] <Alarm> i am a begginer sorry
[01:27] <BioVorE> Alarm: try a echo "<ctrl-v><ctrl-[>Test"
[01:28] <Alarm> well it echos me back the same text without colour
[01:28] <BioVorE> when you type it it should like this "echo "^[Test"
[01:28] <BioVorE> hmm so your terminal dosn't do color then..
[01:28] <Alarm> cool :)
[01:29] <Alarm> good another question although i may be in the wrong channel. firefox has a button to check if its the default browser. pressing it doesnt show any response. how can i make it be my default web browser instead of konqueror
[01:30] <BioVorE> there is a way.. but I am not sure..   I think you can specify it somewhere in the kde control pannel..  They hide this from you on kubuntu..  pop open a shell and do a "kdesu kcontrol"
[01:31] <Alarm> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[01:31] <Alarm>   Major opcode:  144
[01:31] <Alarm>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:31] <Alarm>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:31] <Agent_bob> BioVorE why as root ?
[01:32] <Alarm> strange... i get that error pretty often and dont know what that is
[01:32] <BioVorE> sometime you need root for some of the functions..  the run as admin buttion is busted
[01:32] <BioVorE> But your right.. you may not need root for some options
[01:32] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[01:33] <Agent_bob> but trying to set non-root preferances as root is busted for sure.
[01:33] <BioVorE> possibly..
[01:33] <BioVorE> I don't know if he needs it or not..
[01:34] <[Relic] > !repositories
[01:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:38] <Agent_bob> ssh guest@63.157.91.246 passwd=x
[01:39] <BioVorE> why?
[01:39] <BioVorE> :-P
[01:40] <xenol_> ! SSH
[01:40] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:44] <[Relic] > if I do a herd of apt-get install commands (replacing all the stuff I had installed last time) will apt-get give any warnings needed to avoid problems?
[01:47] <Agent_bob> apt is fairly sane    yes
[01:48] <Alarm> which is a good download manager ?
[01:49] <Agent_bob> wget
[01:49] <BioVorE> lol
[01:49] <BioVorE> thats what I use.. lolz
[01:49] <Agent_bob> some like aget
[01:49] <Fleebailey33> i am having trouble with edgy booting on alternative amd64
[01:49] <Agent_bob> curl is ok
[01:49] <Alarm> not under console
[01:49] <Fleebailey33> install
[01:49] <Fleebailey33> any idea's?
[01:49] <Agent_bob> Alarm konqueror
[01:50] <Alarm> Agent_bob:  does support resume ?
[01:50] <Fleebailey33> i installed xp windows so i am dual booting
[01:50] <Fleebailey33> windows boot
[01:50] <BioVorE> if the server dose..
[01:50] <Fleebailey33> but ubuntut seems to keep getting frozen
[01:50] <Agent_bob> !boot | Fleebailey33
[01:50] <ubotu> Fleebailey33: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:51] <BioVorE> Fleebailey33: alternative...  that the text installer only?
[01:51] <Fleebailey33> yes
[01:51] <BioVorE> where is it hanging up at?
[01:51] <Fleebailey33> i did it that way becuase windows was already installed on a 30 gig partition
[01:51] <Fleebailey33> different places
[01:51] <Fleebailey33> sometimes after fsck
[01:52] <Fleebailey33> but mostly decompressing kernal
[01:52] <BioVorE> hmmm
[01:52] <BioVorE> this is after installing it right.. first  boot up with out the CD?
[01:52] <Fleebailey33> yes
[01:53] <BioVorE> what mobo and CPU you using?
[01:53] <Agent_bob> using 64bit kernel i assume ?
[01:53] <towync> thank god i made it through the finals alive!!!! hurray hurray hurray =)
[01:53] <Fleebailey33> turion64x2
[01:53] <towync> laptop?
[01:54] <towync> i can't believe i'm still breathing!! 9 hrs of finals and to think yesterday i didn't know squat about 1 of the classes
[01:55] <Agent_bob> you should check the bug reports on that hardware, also scan the forums for same problems.
[01:56] <__osh__> I just installed php4-gd2 by misstake, now I'd like to remove it and all dependancies. However it's not a "real package" so an aptitude remove won't remove it. What to do, other than finding all packages it installed and uninstall them manually?
[01:57] <Fleebailey33> brb
[01:57] <matthew> __osh__, try sudo apt-get remove --purge php4-gd2
[01:58] <__osh__> matthew: nope, since the package php4-gd2 doesn't really exist it will remove nothing.
[01:58] <Agent_bob> php4-gd
[01:58] <BioVorE> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/php4-gd
[01:59] <matthew> __osh__, hmmm, no idea...sorry
[01:59] <Agent_bob> try sudo apt-get remove --purge php4*
[02:01] <__osh__> Agent_bob: I'd like to keep my php4 installed thankyouverymuch. I did find a solution though. Scrolling back up in terminal and cutting/pasting. Not elegant but working.
[02:01] <Fleebailey33> BioVorE, its like it finished the fsch and can't start x
[02:01] <Fleebailey33> i got it to do that
[02:01] <BioVorE> not sure what could be wrong... I only haven't installed egdy on amd64..
[02:02] <Fleebailey33> double checking how do you open a tty?
[02:02] <Fleebailey33> maybe i could open 1
[02:02] <BioVorE> tty is a terminal
[02:02] <Fleebailey33> i know
[02:02] <Fleebailey33> like tty3
[02:02] <oslo> on fire fox i cant open .png
[02:02] <Fleebailey33> then manualy startx
[02:02] <oslo> http://dl-1.free.fr/52616e646f6d49569eaaf064884cc3ac16099e44a4a7abf7b378b875a256dbf3/splash2.png
[02:03] <oslo> & i can't add any entry in the firefox file association
[02:03] <BioVorE> you can try booting then in grub add a -b to the end of the kernel params list
[02:03] <Fleebailey33> brb let me try that
[02:03] <Fleebailey33> -b ?
[02:03] <Agent_bob> "<__osh__> Agent_bob: I'd like to keep my php4 installed" <<< why ?
[02:04] <Agent_bob> __osh__ you have php5 by default
[02:04] <Alter-Ego> what is the equivalent of tracert in linux
[02:04] <BioVorE> tracerotue or tracepath
[02:04] <BioVorE> (route)
[02:06] <Agent_bob> tracepath    tracepath6   traceroute6
[02:06] <Alarm> which directory keeps all my settings for the desktop. like appearance , fonts, taskbar and so on ? .kde ?
[02:06] <BioVorE> ~/.kde probably
[02:06] <Agent_bob> Alarm .kde/share/config/
[02:07] <Alarm> lets asume that i will keep that directory and reinstall kubuntu. replacing it will be a good idea, or could that cause some problems and would be better to configure everything manualy again ?
[02:07] <Agent_bob> and ~/   may have some fundamentals
[02:08] <BioVorE> Alarm: you want to reset you kde settings completely back to factory?
[02:09] <Alarm> well i want to keep the desktop configuration after a format and installation of kubuntu. somehow it was a testing installation to see how everything works, what i need and what not. and to make a fresh install , but want to skip the desktop configuration again
[02:09] <Agent_bob> Alarm i'd keep the dir and if it does cause problems just rm it.  that's what a clean install will start with, is no ~/.*/
[02:09] <Alarm> okie, thanks
[02:09] <BioVorE> yeah.. Agent_bob got it
[02:09] <Alarm> i asked about problems, like software dependensies. filetypes. or languages layouts that i may not install and stuff like that
[02:09] <BioVorE> or backup those directorys.
[02:11] <Alarm> okie thanks
[02:11] <Agent_bob> Alarm BioVorE has a good tip on how to save and restore settings...   tar -cjf backup.tar.bz2 ~/.kde
[02:11] <Alarm> BioVorE:  thank you a lot. really helpful tips i can say , Agent_bob as well :)
[02:11] <Alarm> well copying the directory somewhere isnt that hard. :)
[02:12] <BioVorE> our just backup your hole home dir..  I have done that a few times.. saves all my settings for kde just fine..
[02:12] <Alarm> okie dokie boss :)
[02:12] <Agent_bob> but it wont by default overwrite the settings from a copy  it will from a tarball
[02:12] <Agent_bob> plus tarball is small and only one file.
[02:13] <Agent_bob> saves permissions and ownership
[02:13] <Alarm> got it
[02:13] <BioVorE> kidna like a zip file
[02:13] <Agent_bob> even if you store the tarball on a windows partition it still keeps things streight.
[02:13] <Agent_bob> yeah just better.
[02:13] <BioVorE> rgr
[02:14] <Alarm> now some really begginers questions . compared to windows, home directory is something like documents, which is the 'program files' folder under linux ?
[02:15] <Alarm> i mean when i install an application with make i dont have any plan where everything is being copied. where to find the application , or why do i need to have root access to install something on a directory where the simple user doesnt have access on that
[02:15] <Agent_bob>  /usr   i suppose would qulify as the rough equivalent
[02:16] <Agent_bob> note. where as M$ uses the idea of every thing in it's own folder + subdirs   linux uses the idea of executables here libraries there docs some place else.
[02:16] <gtwy> has anyone ever used mpich/mpicc ?
[02:17] <Alarm> got it
[02:17] <Agent_bob> in linux  executables are in *bin/  and  libs in *lib/   docs in /usr/share/doc/
[02:17] <BioVorE> mpich.. isn't that something used for parallel comuting..
[02:18] <Agent_bob> clusters
[02:18] <BioVorE> FHS or LSB standards explan location of stuff in linux decently enough to give you an idea where to look for stuff
[02:18] <Alarm> so do i have options where i can install applications ?
[02:18] <BioVorE> ussualy /usr/local/
[02:18] <Agent_bob> Alarm not generally
[02:18] <BioVorE> or /opt/
[02:18] <Alarm> for example with the make install command to specify where i want to install it ?
[02:19] <BioVorE> ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[02:19] <BioVorE> make
[02:19] <BioVorE> make install
[02:19] <BioVorE> will install bins into /usr/local/bin
[02:19] <BioVorE> and libs into /usr/local/libs
[02:20] <Alarm> well that means it will create a directory of the applications name in the local dir or will just create files in the local folder ? sounds so confucing for me a folder full of different applications
[02:20] <khirr> how can i install KDE 4?
[02:20] <BioVorE> there are packages for it.. but its stil very hit and miss atm..
[02:20] <khirr> i'm Edgy user
[02:20] <Agent_bob> Alarm only the basic of /usr/share /usr/local/share /usr /opt     or ~/  that's about the extent of options because when you go beyond that you start making libs link to very un-expected addresses and some hardcoded address will hose the whole thing.
[02:21] <BioVorE> I messed with it.. but they didn't work very well yet..
[02:21] <Alarm> got it
[02:21] <khirr> ?
[02:22] <khirr> how can i update KDE 4 since konsole?
[02:22] <Agent_bob> Alarm yes "sounds so confucing for me a folder full of different applications" <<< that's what i was telling you.  it's not the way M$ does it at all.      ls /usr/bin    some time.   :)
[02:22] <Alarm> ehe , allright :)
[02:23] <Linux_Galore> khirr: you have to be pretty game to run KDE 4.0 its still very alpha
[02:23] <BioVorE> its unix.. not windows...  Were the orginal way of doing stuff from 1960's forward..
[02:23] <Alarm> ohh and something else, simple and last question for tonight. kubuntu has all those system folders in '/' hidden. i found how to view them. but how can i change them not be hidden anymore ?
[02:23] <manchicken> BioVorE: Um... except that UNIX is based off of PDP.
[02:24] <Agent_bob> manchicken you mean all executables ?
[02:24] <BioVorE> hehe.. well everything is based of something.. nothing is original
[02:24] <BioVorE> pdp11 for the win.. :-P
[02:24] <khirr> i'd like try (:F
[02:24] <manchicken> Agent_bob: Good of you to differentiate.
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> Alarm: yes, kde has a security file (dont ask me the path/name)
[02:24] <Alarm> okie
[02:24] <manchicken> BioVorE: King Solomon said there's nothing new under the sun.  I happen to agree ^_^
[02:25] <Linux_Galore> Alarm: you can unset all that stuff
[02:25] <BioVorE> the other thing that gets windows users is that the file extention dosn't mean squat..
[02:25] <manchicken> There's merely different ways of mixing it together ^_^
[02:25] <Agent_bob> here here !
[02:25] <BioVorE> rgr
[02:25] <gtwy> if someone can help me with compiling using mpicc i could use the help
[02:25] <gtwy> searched google all night
[02:25] <Agent_bob> BioVorE yes.   what extentions   !
[02:26] <Agent_bob> :)
[02:26] <BioVorE> I think there is an already compiled version of mpich for ubnutu
[02:26] <eilker> isnt there a history of surfed webpages  in konqueror ??
[02:26] <BioVorE> yes
[02:26] <bgsteffens> oo cool, where is it haha
[02:26] <Agent_bob> eilker you bet
[02:26] <manchicken> eilker: Hit F9 and then click on the clock.
[02:26] <bgsteffens> i was looking for that the other day
[02:26] <murchadh_bhaba> Alarm, At ashell type sudo nano /.hidden
[02:27] <eilker> thank you, in fact i am in trouble :D
[02:27] <BioVorE> eilker: its a side batr
[02:27] <Alarm> murchadh_bhaba:  well a text editor appeard
[02:27] <manchicken> F9 toggles the sidebar ^_^
[02:28] <manchicken> Have you hugged your function keys today?
[02:28] <murchadh_bhaba> Alarm, There should be folder names in it. Anything here is hidden. Delete the name of anything you want shown.
[02:28] <Agent_bob> you mean that's the default hot key to toggle the "side batr"  ?
[02:28] <BioVorE> f9 is
[02:29] <Alarm> okie thanks
[02:29] <manchicken> Agent_bob: Yes.
[02:29] <illusina> I think a recent update broke my sound -- as I now don't have any sound cards (at least my kmix does not think so)
[02:30] <BioVorE> illusina: whats you sound device?
[02:30] <Alter-Ego> how do i see what dns server i am using from the konsole ?
[02:30] <Agent_bob> lol
[02:30] <murchadh_bhaba> Alarm, You can delete this file (it's a symbolic link to another file, but deleting it has the effect of showing all the icons). /.hidden
[02:30] <illusina> BioVorE: EMU10k1 (Soundbaster audigy 2)
[02:30] <Alarm> yeah got the meaning of that file
[02:30] <Agent_bob> Alter-Ego ifconfig ???
[02:30] <BioVorE> that should work.. as far as I know..
[02:30] <Alarm> saw it in my root dir
[02:30] <Alarm> thank you
[02:30] <Agent_bob> actually not sure.
[02:31] <Alter-Ego> Alarm, or just mv .hidden .hidden.old
[02:31] <illusina> BioVorE: I've had everything and up running, but a few days ago it all konked out
[02:31] <murchadh_bhaba> Alarm,Very welcome.
[02:31] <BioVorE> I had a simular issue he a few months ago.. My SB live card died.. :-(
[02:31] <Alarm> :)
[02:32] <murchadh_bhaba> !hidden Alarm you can read up on it here, but it seems thay may drop it in future releases.
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hidden Alarm you can read up on it here, but it seems thay may drop it in future releases. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <murchadh_bhaba> !hidden
[02:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[02:32] <illusina> I was following the instructions on the ubuntu forums regarding how to fix sound
[02:32] <Alarm> its ok. it was allready more help than i needed
[02:32] <illusina> and it appears my alsa drives are compiled to a different kernel than I'm using
[02:32] <Alarm> helped a lot the .hidden file
[02:33] <illusina> btw, I am using the "generic" kernel every time I boot, otherwise my mouse/keyboard do not work (other kernel being i386)
[02:33] <manchicken> Gotta reboot for that kernel drive to take effect.
[02:34] <Agent_bob> i implemented a way of hiding the fs from the common user before kubuntu did.     chmod 751 /
[02:35] <Agent_bob> well my origenal was not 751 bot 001
[02:35] <Agent_bob> but 001
[02:37] <Agent_bob> but 011 would be better because anything in group root  would be locked out of 001 perms
[02:40] <Agent_bob> what i use now is a slightly more relaxed but still hidden fs base
[02:40] <Agent_bob> tty23 [root@~]  ls -ld /
[02:40] <Agent_bob> d---r-x--x 15 root root 4096 Dec 14 23:20 /
[02:42] <manchicken> Nice.  Kernel updates went nice and smooth.
[02:43] <lfmiller> I'm having a weird problem with a G3 powerpc, if someone is knowable about powerpcs can you contact me directly - thanks - lfmiller
[02:43] <KubuntuSudo619> HI!!!!!!!!!
[02:44] <KubuntuSudo619> i need a guide of howto install software in kubuntu
[02:44] <xenol_> wait
[02:44] <manchicken> KubuntuSudo619: Use Adept.
[02:44] <xenol> kmenu/system/adept
[02:44] <manchicken> KubuntuSudo619: In the K menu, select Add/Remove Programs
[02:45] <Agent_bob> or install and use synaptic
[02:45] <jerp> I would advise use adept as a directory but use apt-get to install
[02:45] <Agent_bob> errrr that's recursive isn't it...
[02:45] <KubuntuSudo619> thx manchicken
[02:45] <manchicken> KubuntuSudo619: Not a problem.
[02:45] <okc_kid> i have a question
[02:45] <KubuntuSudo619> ok sup
[02:45] <manchicken> okc_kid: Ask it ^_^
[02:46] <okc_kid> how do you turn Kubutu into a server
[02:46] <Agent_bob> we have answers
[02:46] <Agent_bob> !lamp | okc_kid
[02:46] <ubotu> okc_kid: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:46] <KubuntuSudo619> google kubuntu thin client
[02:46] <okc_kid> for like Network Login
[02:46] <xenol> plz where can i get update for OO,
[02:46] <xenol> ?
[02:46] <Agent_bob> !remote desktop
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <BioVorE> OpenOffice.org
[02:47] <Agent_bob> !ssh | okc_kid
[02:47] <ubotu> okc_kid: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:47] <Agent_bob> !vnc | okc_kid
[02:47] <ubotu> okc_kid: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:47] <xenol> is it enough to write sudo apt-get update openoffice.org
[02:47] <okc_kid> i know all of that
[02:47] <jerp> does Ubotu have a webpage to assist someone with the final steps of setting up gnash in firefox.
[02:47] <Agent_bob>  sudo apt-get update   doesn't do that.
[02:47] <xenol> ah
[02:47] <BioVorE> the latest verion probably would have to be download as a bin from openoffice.org..  But I am not 100% sure
[02:48] <xenol> so i have to download the installation directlz from site?
[02:48] <jerp> try 'sudo apt-get install openoffice'
[02:48] <BioVorE> ^ or try that
[02:48] <jerp> but do an upgrade first
[02:48] <BioVorE> but the version on openoffice's site will be probably be newer
[02:48] <jerp> dist-upgrade
[02:48] <Agent_bob> xenol enable the update and security repos and do    sudo apt-get update  &&  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       that will update everything that ubuntu has updates for.
[02:48] <okc_kid> i need something that can run like a RADIUS server
[02:49] <BioVorE> how about RADIUS
[02:49] <xenol> i dont to upgrade ot edgy
[02:49] <xenol> i want dapper 1st  thing
[02:49] <manchicken> xenol: Just go into the adept manager, refresh, and install from there.
[02:49] <Agent_bob> xenol i didn't saying anything about edgy.
[02:49] <xenol> oh
[02:49] <Agent_bob> xenol enable the update and security repos and do    sudo apt-get update  &&  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       that will update everything that ubuntu has updates for.
[02:49] <xenol> i ahve repos enabled
[02:49] <manchicken> xenol: You may have to work with some backports on that.
[02:50] <xenol> but i cant downlaod few updates from kubuntu.org
[02:50] <Agent_bob> then run the two commands
[02:50] <xenol> cause it says 404 erro
[02:50] <xenol> error
[02:50] <xenol> they r upgrading the server?
[02:50] <Agent_bob> hmm page not found
[02:50] <Agent_bob> check the address of the error and ping it.
[02:50] <manchicken> Sounds like you may have typo'd the repo.
[02:50] <Agent_bob> yep.
[02:51] <xenol> fuckin shit i found error bah
[02:51] <goodthing> before i go and raid1 backup disks, does anyone have a alarm bell ringing when reading this http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/software-raid-in-ubuntu/ ?
[02:53] <LjL> !language | xenol
[02:53] <ubotu> xenol: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:53] <illusina> I think I started to remove a package which was going to cause a bunch of other packages to be removed in adept
[02:53] <xenol> ouch sry
[02:53] <illusina> and when I saw them being deleted, I quite adept
[02:53] <illusina> quit*
[02:53] <Agent_bob> goodthing mmmmm    Please take in  attention that  you can loose  your data!  If it  happens,
[02:53] <Agent_bob>    don't complain to me. Follow these guidelines on your own risk.
[02:53] <illusina> now whenever I do anything dselect, adept, etc, "Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:53] <illusina>  kdm"
[02:53] <enzo_> I need help loading GRUB
[02:54] <enzo_> Nothing comes up anymore
[02:54] <Agent_bob> disclaimers like that always wave red flags for me...
[02:54] <xenol> enzo_ u want normal grub? i can help u set up gfxboot :p looks more cooler
[02:54] <BioVorE> then the Microsoft EULA should make you shit your pants..
[02:55] <enzo_> I want GRUB... that's it
[02:55] <enzo_> xenol: Sure
[02:55] <enzo_> I'm about to go "/fix mbr"
[02:55] <xenol> nah
[02:55] <Agent_bob> BioVorE excessive discriptor but yes EULA is enough reason to avoid M$
[02:55] <xenol> wait a sec
[02:55] <goodthing> Agent_bob: yeah i know, but i backup and wipe those disk before starting to put RAID on it. From my knowledge i thought to be safe there
[02:55] <enzo_> k
[02:56] <goodthing> Agent_bob: but it is always good to hear other peoples thought about something first, especially when it comes to your data
[02:56] <Agent_bob> goodthing yes go for it.  but keep the backups and if you add any important data you might want to back it up also.     backups are good.
[02:58] <goodthing> lol
[02:58] <goodthing> nah i do not have enough disks for that
[02:58] <Agent_bob> one copy of mine is on another hd.
[02:59] <Agent_bob> this box has 8 drives
[02:59] <Agent_bob> that's one reason i don't use partitions.  :)
[03:00] <goodthing> well, i guess i best make a 300GB raid1 and put one folder in that to max 3.7GB and one to max 700MB so i can randomly backup that on dvd/cd
[03:00] <Agent_bob> sure.   why not.
[03:01] <goodthing> wow, no i have three disks and my case is already full
[03:01] <goodthing> thanks for the help
[03:01] <Agent_bob> or 650m and 3.6g  and encript them.
[03:02] <goodthing> hmm, not a bad idea
[03:02] <goodthing> not at all
[03:05] <Agent_bob> oh my what exactly is  /dev/tty ?
[03:05] <manchicken> That'd be a terminal controller device.
[03:06] <kilrae> ter mi nal?
[03:06] <Agent_bob>  /dev/console is 5, 1    but   /dev/tty is 5, 0 .....
[03:06] <Agent_bob> manchicken ?
[03:06] <Agent_bob> manchicken as in controls all tty*'s ?
[03:08] <manchicken> I'm trying to find a good explanation.
[03:08] <Agent_bob> k
[03:09] <manchicken> http://www.definethat.com/define/2010.htm
[03:09] <Agent_bob> manchicken you do know that i'm not talking about /dev/tty*  but /dev/tty   ?
[03:09] <manchicken> Yeah.
[03:09] <Agent_bob> k
[03:09] <manchicken> tty1 is just a branch off of tty.
[03:09] <manchicken> Similar to /dev/hda1 is a node off of /dev/hda
[03:10] <kilrae> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.3
[03:11] <kilrae> this pronunciation is not considered to have sexual undertones)
[03:11] <kilrae> heh
[03:11] <Agent_bob> manchicken not really.   all tty*  is either major 4 or major 3   but tty itself is major 5    the example of hd* doesn't follow that.
[03:12] <Agent_bob> see hda is 3, 0  and  hda1 is 3, 1     not at all what we have with tty.
[03:12] <kristopher> what would be the best program for mas tagging and organizing of large quantities of mp3 files.  Something with a smart tag editor.
[03:13] <noiesmo> kristopher, theres easytag
[03:13] <noiesmo> !easytag | kristopher
[03:13] <ubotu> easytag: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.99.12-1 (edgy), package size 748 kB, installed size 2428 kB
[03:14] <kristopher> i forgot to mention, graphical.
[03:14] <noiesmo> kristopher, yes it gui
[03:14] <Agent_bob> kilrae well i have always said it the second way...
[03:15] <kilrae> amarok doesn't work?
[03:15] <manchicken> What do you mean amarok doesn't work?
[03:15] <kilrae> mp3 tags
[03:15] <kristopher> we'll, it gets a bit.. crazy with 60 gigs of mp3s
[03:15] <kilrae> ah
[03:16] <Agent_bob> it may be considered inaccurate but i still say G N U   rather than gah'new
[03:16] <kilrae> i say noo
[03:16] <kilrae> i'm glad i don't know any linux people in real life, i might get beat up
[03:17] <Agent_bob> lol
[03:17] <kilrae> i also say nome
[03:17] <Agent_bob> yes  'nome
[03:17] <kilrae> but that's ok, cause i don't use it
[03:17] <Agent_bob> or gno-me
[03:18] <kilrae> i wonder if gnome has stopped looking ugly yet, i haven't looked at it for a year or so
[03:18] <Agent_bob> eilker doesnt' get out much....
[03:18] <Agent_bob> worry bad joke i guess.
[03:18] <kilrae> they release new versions fast, don't they
[03:19] <Agent_bob> sorry ^
[03:19] <eilker> :)
[03:19] <eilker> np
[03:19] <Agent_bob> kilrae don't they.
[03:19] <kilrae> hey, the gnome people figured out transparent panels, i should congratulate them
[03:19] <kristopher> knowing linux people in real life is a blast, because saying *nix commands is ten times more fun than typing them.
[03:20] <manchicken> I'd rather know GNU people.
[03:20] <manchicken> linux people are either kernel hackers, or don't know the difference between a kernel and an operating system ;)
[03:20] <matthew> lmao @ kristopher
[03:20] <Agent_bob> na me.   it's the Gnu/linux people that i dig
[03:21] <kristopher> kernel hackers refuse to focus on the big picture. In linux and life.
[03:21] <manchicken> Naw.  Real kernel hackers are just like normal folks, they merely hack something different than what I hack ^_^
[03:21] <Alarm> can i find somewhere all those updates that i did download till now ? so that i wont have to download them again next time. or do i have to localise me repo to get that files and change the repo and add the url again .
[03:21] <Agent_bob> can't know much about the big picture unless you take the little 'bits' apart and study them....  pun intended
[03:22] <Agent_bob> normal......   heh     now ain't that a dandy word to call someone.....
[03:22] <chicken_Fire> Hello. Do I get a 3d desktop out of the box with ubuntu 6.10, or is it hard to make it run?
[03:23] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: What video card you running?
[03:23] <Agent_bob> Alarm /etc/cache/apt/archives    if you don't clear it....
[03:23] <chicken_Fire> ati radeon mobility.
[03:23] <burner> it's not hard to make it run
[03:23] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: 200M?
[03:23] <burner> it doesn't work on my 7500 chicken_Fire
[03:23] <Alarm> Agent_bob:  nice, and if i want to install those packages at a later time from the package manager ?
[03:23] <chicken_Fire> I was trying xgl with ubuntu 6.06 and it was not so good..
[03:24] <burner> ati uses aiglx
[03:24] <kilrae> i got it running with a radeon 9700
[03:24] <Agent_bob> chicken_Fire ati and linux are not the best of dancing partners
[03:24] <chicken_Fire> wait..
[03:24] <Agent_bob> !ati
[03:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:24] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: What version of ATI mobility?
[03:24] <manchicken> Err, model
[03:24] <chicken_Fire> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] 
[03:24] <noiesmo> chicken_Fire, the main problem you will have is the fact you have ati card
[03:24] <Agent_bob> Alarm if they are in that dir it's wont re-download them
[03:25] <Alarm> some how there is not chace dir in the /etc
[03:25] <kilrae> i needed xserver-xgl, the fglrx driver and beryl
[03:25] <manchicken> There's a fair chance that not even proprietary drivers will work.
[03:25] <chicken_Fire> fglrx works fine as of ubuntu 6.06
[03:25] <Agent_bob> Alarm did i say /etc///   ment /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:25] <manchicken> It may not work with newer kernel version.
[03:25] <Agent_bob> meant
[03:25] <Alarm> okie
[03:25] <chicken_Fire> I was more wondering about the out-of-the-boxability of xserver-xgl..
[03:25] <Agent_bob> typo knight.
[03:26] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: Wait about 5 years.
[03:26] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: It'll be that good then.
[03:26] <chicken_Fire> lol manchicken
[03:26] <manchicken> heh
[03:26] <Alarm> yeap they are. so after a fresh installation of kubuntu , all i have to do is to copy again the files in that directory ?
[03:26] <manchicken> As long as 3d drivers are proprietary, 3D desktops will not be out-of-the-boxable.
[03:26] <Agent_bob> Alarm yes.
[03:26] <Alarm> and the package manager will find it automatically i guess
[03:27] <Alarm> good
[03:27] <chicken_Fire> I just read in Liberation (french newspaper) that a consumer organisation is suing HP for giving windows pre-installed. Main argument: Linux is easy to install now.
[03:27] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: ATI refuses to release enough information for people to write their own drivers.
[03:27] <chicken_Fire> This argument is breaking the hp argument that was: a computer is not "simply" working without windows.
[03:27] <Agent_bob> Alarm note that if you do regular updates   then you will have several versions of some of them.     and if there is a later version it will still dl the latest.
[03:27] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: nvidia is the same thing.
[03:28] <Tido`> I'm trying to install msttcorefonts but it says I have dependency problems (of which it won't tell me), any way to install default windows truetype fonts?
[03:28] <manchicken> If you'd prefer to use a Darwin kernel, go for it ^_^
[03:28] <matthew> * doesn't want people to use microsoft
[03:28] <chicken_Fire> but ATI is giving the specs to the 3d game industry, no? ;(
[03:28] <matthew> oh, that didn't work right.
[03:28] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: Nope.
[03:28] <kilrae> if people use linux then people will write viruses and then things will suck
[03:28] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: They give driver interfaces.
[03:29] <BluesKaj> !clamav
[03:29] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[03:29] <Agent_bob> matthew carefull if you are trying to do what i think you are trying to do.
[03:29] <BluesKaj> !Klamav
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Klamav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <BluesKaj> !klamav
[03:29] <ubotu> klamav: KDE frontend for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.37-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2256 kB
[03:29] <matthew> Agent_bob, what do you think I'm trying to do? I just don't want people using microsoft.
[03:29] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: Until there are laws that give consumers the right to know how to interface with their own hardware, 3D desktops in Free software won't be as possible as we'd like.
[03:30] <kilrae> matthew, type /me
[03:30] <chicken_Fire> well, do you think it is worth updating from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 to test the latest xgl?
[03:30] <kilrae> not *
[03:30] <matthew> kilrae, thank you
[03:30] <Agent_bob> were you trying to get everyone in the channel in on that matthew
[03:30] <linuxreign> live Microsoft alone, it's all about choice, for Linux rulz, period
[03:30] <matthew> lol, I had no idea
[03:30] <BluesKaj> if ppl wanna use ms they will cuz it's the easy way out....it works for most ppl
[03:30] <matthew> Agent_bob, in on what?
[03:30] <matthew> Agent_bob, I don't think so.
[03:30] <Agent_bob> if so the command you are fishing for will get you kicked if you find it.....
[03:30] <matthew> what? the /me command?
[03:30] <Agent_bob> if not don't worry.
[03:31] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: I don't think 3D desktop is worth running a proprietary driver, so you wouldn't like my opinion ;)
[03:31] <Agent_bob> no
[03:31] <Agent_bob> and i'm not about to display it.
[03:31] <matthew> Agent_bob, ok, I was just going for the /me command.
[03:31] <Agent_bob> k
[03:31] <matthew> I don't care about "shouting" or whatever it's called now.
[03:31] <matthew> if that's what you thought.
[03:32] <chicken_Fire> mmmh is there a howto to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[03:32] <chicken_Fire> mmmh is there a howto to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[03:33] <manchicken> chicken_Fire: In your sources.list, change dapper to edgy, then apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[03:33] <Agent_bob> !upgrade
[03:33] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:33] <noiesmo> chicken_Fire, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[03:34] <manchicken> Movie time w/MrsChicken.  Check y'all later.
[03:35] <matthew> Agent_bob, you know, I thought the same thing 'til I was forced to upgrade to edgy, and I love it!
[03:35] <matthew> much more stability, at least for me!
[03:37] <chicken_Fire> thanks noiesmo
[03:37] <noiesmo> chicken_Fire, :)
[03:38] <Agent_bob> matthew stable ?     that's one reason i was sticking with 6.6
[03:38] <matthew> Agent_bob, I used to have xmms and kaffeine and skype freeze my box solid...
[03:39] <chicken_Fire> err: when doing gksu "update-manager -c", I get after clicking update to 6.10:
[03:39] <chicken_Fire> extracting '/tmp/tmpmvGAg8/edgy.tar.gz'
[03:39] <Agent_bob> i've taken the trubble to fix every thing that i didn't like  on 6.6   if i uped to 6.10 i'd just have to start over.
[03:39] <chicken_Fire> authenticate '/tmp/tmpmvGAg8/edgy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmpmvGAg8/edgy.tar.gz.gpg'
[03:39] <chicken_Fire> can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk
[03:39] <chicken_Fire> wtf?
[03:39] <matthew> Agent_bob, I know how that is
[03:39] <Agent_bob> matthew lol  you just named three things i never use... nor want to use.
[03:39] <matthew> matthew, how ironic, lol
[03:40] <matthew> Agent_bob, how ironic, lol
[03:40] <Agent_bob> yeh that too
[03:40] <matthew> geez can't even remember who is who
[03:40] <matthew> lol
[03:40] <RoKFiT> how do i force konqueror to open with kubuntu web profile
[03:41] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT save the profile as default
[03:42] <Agent_bob> i.e. save profile  web profile    as   file manager profile       you can name a profile anything you want but check what it's opening and save as that.
[03:43] <RoKFiT> but then when file manager opens it will open as web browser?
[03:43] <RoKFiT> so it's profile name is Kubuntu Web
[03:43] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT isn't that what you said you wanted ?
[03:43] <Agent_bob> "<RoKFiT> how do i force konqueror to open with kubuntu web profile"
[03:43] <RoKFiT> i meant moreless from an icon
[03:43] <RoKFiT> control it from an icon
[03:43] <RoKFiT> --profile kubuntu web
[03:44] <RoKFiT> idk if the name of it stays the same
[03:44] <phobiac> RoFKiT: use --profile 'kubuntu web'
[03:44] <Agent_bob> ok  go to kmenu > internet > konq  left mouse hold down   drag and drop on the desktop
[03:44] <phobiac> That space might cause an issue
[03:44] <xenol> plz some1 can tell me how can i delete temp of konqueror?
[03:45] <RoKFiT> Malformed URL
[03:45] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT ^^^
[03:45] <noiesmo> xenol, check your ~/.kde/ folder the cache for konqueror etc in there
[03:45] <RoKFiT> i don't have that folder in my kmenu
[03:46] <jerp> right click on the icon and find edit menu
[03:46] <jerp> add it
[03:46] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT ?     hehhe enable it...
[03:46] <Agent_bob> :)
[03:46] <jerp> menu panel
[03:46] <jerp> applet
[03:46] <Agent_bob> why do you people leave all the menu stuff turned off ?
[03:47] <Agent_bob> the menu is not different it's just configured with most of it turned off.....
[03:47] <xenol> noiesmo can i delete is directly from konqueror?
[03:48] <RoKFiT> i moreless want to open a profile from an icon
[03:48] <Fleebailey33> im using grub and my issue that it wont boot. it hangs after fsck
[03:48] <Fleebailey33> feisty
[03:48] <noiesmo> xenol, chceck options in konqueror settings configure konqueoer
[03:48] <Fleebailey33> but edgy wouldnt boot either
[03:48] <Fleebailey33> different error
[03:48] <Fleebailey33> so i tried feisty
[03:48] <noiesmo> xenol, theres a cache option might hlp u
[03:49] <xenol> yeah but when i click on it nthing happens
[03:49] <Fleebailey33> i think it just needs to start x
[03:49] <Fleebailey33> can i command grub to do that?
[03:49] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT i told you one way.    phobiac told you another... both work.     the easiest is to grab a menu itom of what you want and drag it to the desktop or pannel
[03:50] <RoKFiT> konqueror --profile web
[03:50] <RoKFiT> in comment
[03:50] <RoKFiT> doesn't work
[03:50] <RoKFiT> malformed URL
[03:50] <Agent_bob> another third way is to right click the pannel and add
[03:50] <Agent_bob> konqueror --profile web_browser    iirc
[03:51] <Agent_bob> in the konsole info konqueror
[03:51] <Fleebailey33> i'd really like help
[03:52] <Agent_bob> or in konqueror  info://konqueror
[03:52] <RoKFiT> still i get malformed URL
[03:52] <Agent_bob> Fleebailey33 no grub don't do that.
[03:52] <Agent_bob> startx
[03:52] <Fleebailey33> but i cant get a command
[03:52] <Fleebailey33> i no the command
[03:52] <MuJ> we need to know the error
[03:52] <Fleebailey33> grah!!!!!!
[03:53] <Fleebailey33> know*
[03:53] <Fleebailey33> and sometimes when i restart i do get a login
[03:53] <Agent_bob> Fleebailey33 what do you have ?
[03:53] <Fleebailey33> and it says its incorrect
[03:53] <Agent_bob> describe the problem
[03:53] <Fleebailey33> but i know it is
[03:54] <Fleebailey33> and then it freezes
[03:54] <Fleebailey33> feisty
[03:54] <Fleebailey33> edgy froze but different
[03:54] <Fleebailey33> this is far better
[03:54] <Agent_bob> Fleebailey33 #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <MuJ> I bet his hd is fucked up
[03:54] <Fleebailey33> i know im asking there too
[03:54] <Fleebailey33> my hdd also has windows
[03:55] <Fleebailey33> im dual booting
[03:55] <MuJ> as I said.. it's fucked up
[03:55] <Agent_bob> lol
[03:55] <Fleebailey33> hahah
[03:55] <MuJ> =P
[03:55] <MuJ> jk
[03:55] <Agent_bob> !language | MuJ
[03:55] <ubotu> MuJ: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:55] <xenol> ppl should i do full upgrade for dapper?
[03:55] <MuJ> yeah yeah... have some sense of humour please =)
[03:56] <goodthing> what tools you guys use to encrypt data? ccrypt? kgpg?
[03:56] <Agent_bob> xenol to dapper ?   menaing you have breezy now ?
[03:56] <xenol> no i have dapper but full upgrade of dapper i mean downlado all packages and install em
[03:56] <xenol> it depends on which programs i will need i guess :S
[03:56] <earl_> hey guys. is there a way to make kopete play a sound when the first message of a new conversation is received?
[03:56] <Agent_bob> xenol yeah probably there have been lots of updates.
[03:57] <Agent_bob> xenol you are talking about upgrading through apt (any front end qulifies) ?
[03:58] <xenol> agent_bob i know nothing about programing so it will be kinda useless to have programing stuff installed dont ya think?
[03:58] <Agent_bob> xenol not really
[03:58] <xenol> agent_bobo i mean in adept press button  full upgrade it will download all 18.5k packages and install em
[03:58] <RoKFiT> Agent_bob: there are two web browsers, simple and complex?  how do i load complex?
[03:59] <RoKFiT> web_browser loads simple
[03:59] <[Relic] > v6.10; is the nvidia-glx-legacy available?
[03:59] <Agent_bob> xenol example: if you want to build something from source you need most of the programmers package "build-essential"  even though you only entent to issue two commands   make && sudo make install
[03:59] <noiesmo> !envy | [Relic] 
[03:59] <ubotu> [Relic] : envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[04:00] <Steven_M> anyone here running 64-bit edgy?
[04:00] <MuJ> and all the sources... heck, when did make && make install work right away after installing build-esstential
[04:00] <Agent_bob> xenol hehhe.   ok try this in a konsole   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:01] <xenol> it is same aint it?
[04:01] <Agent_bob> that will update what you have installed to the latest
[04:01] <Agent_bob> it WILL NOT install a bunch of other things.
[04:01] <xenol> so e.g.  i have OO 2.0 and it will upgrade it to 2.1 ?
[04:02] <Agent_bob> it the 2.1 were in the dapper repo it would.
[04:03] <Steven_M> anyone here running 64-bit edgy?
[04:03] <Agent_bob> but it will update the latest version in the dapper repo including patches bug fixes security updates ect...   (assumes that the security repos are enabled)
[04:03] <Fleebailey33> Steven_M, me
[04:03] <xenol> agent_bob u have also installed packages for ripping DVD?
[04:03] <Fleebailey33> well was
[04:03] <Agent_bob> Steven_M several.    but !i
[04:03] <xenol> u have also installed packages that u know u will never use?
[04:04] <MuJ> everybody does
[04:04] <BluesKaj> Steven_M, i tried 64bit in dapper but too many probs with hardware recognition ...so i stayed with 32
[04:04] <[Relic] > that's really cute, download and install it; very helpful there :(
[04:04] <Agent_bob> xenol i probably don't.   you may.
[04:04] <RoKFiT> Agent_bob: did you read what I wrote?  I do not want to start the "simple" web browser profile
[04:04] <enzo_> How do I do the "fix mbr"?
[04:05] <Agent_bob> xenol my installation has nothing left that remotely resembles default.
[04:05] <[Relic] > so how does one install envy package?
[04:05] <noiesmo> [Relic] , you on ubuntu
[04:05] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT so what do you want ?
[04:05] <[Relic] > kubuntu
[04:05] <RoKFiT> load the complex browser
[04:06] <Steven_M> Fleebailey33: had many problems?
[04:06] <RoKFiT> load a specific profile named web
[04:06] <RoKFiT> either or
[04:06] <noiesmo> [Relic] , download the envy deb then open konsole and type sudo dpkg -i /path/to/envy.deb
[04:06] <MuJ> what's envy packagae?
[04:06] <RoKFiT> from a konquoror icon withe comment option
[04:06] <noiesmo> !envy | muj
[04:06] <ubotu> muj: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[04:06] <Fleebailey33> just booting
[04:06] <Agent_bob> so save that as your default profile web profile in konqueror .....    sheeez
[04:06] <Fleebailey33> somtimes it wouldnt boot
[04:06] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT ^
[04:06] <Fleebailey33> now it wont at all actually
[04:06] <xenol> agent_bob and now other thing i want to start adept but when i click on it it start loading and nothing opens and it didnt say anything about another procces
[04:06] <Fleebailey33> thats my issue though
[04:06] <Fleebailey33> i messed it up
[04:06] <MuJ> wtf? what's so hard in installing nvidia drivers anyways? =/
[04:07] <RoKFiT> Agent_bob: but then when i open file browser konqueror won't it open as web?
[04:07] <noiesmo> MuJ, some people not sure which driver legacy or normal and it edits the xorg just easy for some but old style is ok to
[04:07] <Agent_bob> xenol in a konsole type adept    and see what it says
[04:08] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT no.
[04:08] <manchicken> xenol: In a console, type sudo adept_manager
[04:08] <xenol> so it is true text based system owns the graphic one lol
[04:08] <MuJ> but of course if there's easy way out, then be it =)
[04:08] <RoKFiT> okay now how do i set it as default?
[04:09] <manchicken> xenol: If you go into the K menu, system, Manage Packages, you'll get it too.
[04:09] <Agent_bob> oh is it adept_manager ?
[04:09] <Agent_bob> never installed adept so i didn't know the command.
[04:09] <noiesmo> MuJ, it also removes any nvidia-glx installed from repo :)
[04:09] <RoKFiT> Agent_bob: how do i set as default
[04:09] <manchicken> Agent_bob: adept_manage is pretty standard.
[04:10] <Agent_bob> don't set as default.   save the profile    save it as web*
[04:10] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT don't make me start a gui just to walk you through that......
[04:11] <RoKFiT> i'll find it ;\
[04:12] <MuJ> noiesmo: evil >:|
[04:12] <MuJ> noiesmo: at least I want to know what I've done with my system.. I don't trust scripts
[04:13] <MuJ> noiesmo: but as I said... If it helps n00blets to install nvidia drivers then it -might- be okay
[04:13] <BluesKaj> uhoh , have landed in the middle of a group of command line junkies ? :)
[04:13] <alexicon> ;D
[04:14] <MuJ> noiesmo: though it's still so easy so why the heck anyone would like to use some script for that? =/
[04:14] <xenol> plz someone can tell me how can i update OO thorugh konsole?
[04:14] <earl_> question... i dualboot windows, and therefore have a 40gb FAT32 partition. it seems like every time i boot kubuntu, my computer spends about 2 minutes running fsck on it. is there a way to disabel that?
[04:14] <manchicken> xenol: What version are you on?  Dapper?
[04:15] <xenol> yea
[04:15] <RoKFiT> do you see it?
[04:15] <noiesmo> MuJ, thats fine for us who have been instal nvidia .bin files for years but its just nice and easy for the newbies so hey why not its on launchpad so i would assume its safe also hopefully not my bad :)
[04:15] <xenol> earl_ u can have 40 Gb fat32 disk max is 32GB u can create with FAT32 i think
[04:15] <jerp> xenol, sudo apt-get update
[04:15] <manchicken> xenol: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade openoffice
[04:15] <earl_> ,,,that is not true
[04:16] <xenol> manchicken but it doesnt shows in update :/
[04:16] <manchicken> xenol: Also, try dpkg -l | grep openoffice
[04:16] <manchicken> xenol: update merely updates the sources package list.
[04:16] <MuJ> noiesmo: well, they'll never learn how to do it properly.. and on other distros =P
[04:16] <xenol> where from? i made one from ubuntulinux.com/source-o-matic
[04:17] <earl_> xenol... the max file size of a fat32 partition is about 8 terabytes.
[04:17] <xenol> wow then nvm
[04:17] <[Relic] > is there a way to import old settings or will overwriting the info cause problems with things like gaim, mozilla and firefox?
[04:17] <manchicken> xenol: If you're using the weird repos, I don't know what they have.
[04:17] <earl_> my question stands. how do i stop linux from compulsively scanning my fat32 drives when i boot?
[04:17] <xenol> i will paste u my sources-list
[04:17] <noiesmo> MuJ, :)
[04:18] <murchadh_bhaba> yeah I think the issue with fat32 is max 4gig file size.
[04:18] <Agent_bob> earl_ remove it from the fstab ?
[04:18] <xenol> !paste
[04:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:18] <Agent_bob> or make it noauto
[04:18] <xenol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37490/
[04:18] <MuJ> noiesmo: of course we all love ubuntu but there's other ways ;P
[04:18] <earl_> agent_bob: i don't want it to not get mounted
[04:18] <earl_> i just want it not to spend 2 minutes scanning it every time i boot
[04:19] <qwarrior> hello there, is there a moderator around?
[04:19] <Agent_bob> xenol you did find   konqueror  > settings > save view profile web browsing       didn't you ?
[04:19] <murchadh_bhaba> earl_, Or fix whatever it is is causing it to do so; there must be some underlying problem causing it to be checked every time.
[04:20] <xenol> agent_bob wat for?
[04:20] <qwarrior> xenol was that for me
[04:20] <xenol> :)
[04:20] <alexicon> has anyone else experienced wifi problems with kubuntu?
[04:20] <murchadh_bhaba> earl_, I'd say Agent_bob has it then.
[04:20] <RoKFiT> Agent_bob: did you find a solution
[04:20] <Agent_bob> xenol sorry  meant RoKFiT
[04:20] <alexicon> specifically that it cant connect to anything, some dhcp problem likely
[04:20] <xenol> np
[04:20] <qwarrior> great, is there anybody working with server class xbuntu?
[04:21] <alexicon> it knows my card, it sees the networks but doesnt connect
[04:21] <Agent_bob> rokfit you did find   konqueror  > settings > save view profile web browsing       didn't you ?
[04:21] <RoKFiT> yeah i can save it but not make it default
[04:21] <xenol> manchicken r those repos good?
[04:21] <RoKFiT> yes but that does not make it default
[04:21] <Agent_bob> no don't make it default.  make you launcher launch with the propper profile
[04:22] <RoKFiT> yeah
[04:22] <RoKFiT> i have it named web
[04:22] <RoKFiT> and --profile web is not launching it!
[04:22] <manchicken> What locality is sk?
[04:22] <RoKFiT> konqueror --profile web    as comment
[04:23] <manchicken> xenol: Paste the output of `dpkg -l | grep openoffice`
[04:23] <earl_> murchadh_bhaba: what kind of problem would it be
[04:23] <earl_> i don't think there are any errors on the drive
[04:23] <xenol> sk=slovakia
[04:23] <manchicken> Ah.
[04:23] <xenol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37493/
[04:24] <manchicken> Those may not be in that repository.
[04:24] <manchicken> Yeah, you are behind... but not much.
[04:24] <xenol> so one question those repos i have r goor or not and where can i get normal ones from? :p
[04:25] <RoKFiT> hello hello earth to Agent_bob
[04:25] <manchicken> I just have us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[04:26] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT type in konsole   konqueror --profiles
[04:26] <xenol> !sources
[04:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:26] <manchicken> I'm not sure if the latest openoffice was backported to dapper.
[04:26] <xenol> !sources dapper
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <xenol> !source-o-matic
[04:26] <RoKFiT> see, thank you Agent_bob
[04:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[04:26] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT reality check.  if you  would have dont  info konqueror   like i told you an hour ago you would have already seen that.
[04:26] <RoKFiT> now you know what i meant
[04:27] <Agent_bob> what you mean ?
[04:27] <RoKFiT> if you  would have don't
[04:27] <RoKFiT> ?
[04:27] <Agent_bob> done
[04:27] <RoKFiT> well thank you
[04:27] <murchadh_bhaba> earl_, Hmmm... If you've done a thorough scandisk in windows and fsck never finds an error, it maybe a drive layout problem, different partitions set up by different OSes. If everything is working I wouldn't worry about it. I still have a 20gig drive with geometry problems that doesn't give any trouble. I'd use the noauto option in fstab.
[04:27] <RoKFiT> very much
[04:28] <RoKFiT> i don't get why those names don't change as  the profile names change?
[04:28] <xenol> manchicken i got problem casue i cant downlaod koofice-data krita and krita-data packages from those repos :/ i get error 404 server is being changed?
[04:28] <RoKFiT> it'd be simpler if they did
[04:28] <earl_> i don't believe windows has scandisk anymore. i think it has chkdsk, and only runs that when there is a problem
[04:28] <earl_> noauto means it won't mount automatically right
[04:28] <manchicken> xenol: Try commenting out the sk.* ones and just using archive.ubuntu.com
[04:29] <Agent_bob> welcome.    but please next time the desired end is a trivial as this RoKFiT   please pay atention to the help offered....  a little reading on your part can save hours of frustration for you and whom ever is helping you.
[04:29] <RoKFiT> how, you never said that as a solution
[04:29] <xenol> manchicken sk. r good they r for my country
[04:29] <murchadh_bhaba> earl_, No, that it won't aut-check it at boot.
[04:29] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT i did too.
[04:29] <manchicken> When I was setting up my Feisty development environment in chroot and us.* seemed to cause trouble.
[04:29] <xenol> only that i cant acces kubuntu.org dapper
[04:29] <manchicken> xenol: Just try it man.
[04:30] <xenol> everytime i want to update i get error 404 i think it is server side mistake not mine :p
[04:30] <manchicken> xenol: Try removing the sk.* in them for just a minute, then run sudo apt-get update, and then try it
[04:30] <xenol> okey
[04:31] <RoKFiT> anywho thanks tons
[04:31] <Agent_bob> np
[04:31] <RoKFiT> hey when the flash x86_64 plugin comes out, will it work with konqueror?
[04:31] <earl_> murchadh_bhaba: excellent. where do i put that option
[04:32] <MuJ> doesn't it aready..somehow?
[04:32] <MuJ> or is it only ff?
[04:32] <RoKFiT> ff?
[04:32] <MuJ> firefox
[04:32] <RoKFiT> oh no, 32bit
[04:32] <RoKFiT> unless konq is 32bit
[04:32] <_kuja_> konq is 64-bit
[04:33] <RoKFiT> yeah then it needs a 64-bit plugin
[04:33] <Agent_bob> my history doesn't reach far enough back but a quick grep of the logs would reviel  my nick with a info://konqueror line by it....  way ^ up there.   in that line is  info konqueror   and not far from it was  konqueror --profiles     not that it matters.
[04:33] <xenol> manchicken i get this
[04:33] <xenol> Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[04:33] <xenol>   404 Not Found
[04:33] <xenol> Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Sources
[04:33] <xenol>   404 Not Found
[04:33] <MuJ> but 64bit ff can use 32bit flash plugin =/
[04:33] <manchicken> xenol: I said just use the EXACT same sources you had, remove the "sk." from them.
[04:33] <_kuja_> via an ugly hack you could make 64bit konqueror use 32-bit flash ... but you'd lose the ability to use all 64-bit plugins, so it isn't worth it.
[04:33] <murchadh_bhaba> earl_, After the partition type, eg. vfat, in the next column
[04:33] <xenol> i removed sk. from there
[04:34] <xenol> and got no new updates
[04:34] <murchadh_bhaba> earl_, In the /etc/fstab file
[04:34] <manchicken> If you want to run flash, install both 64 and 32-bit Firefox, and install the flash9 plugin.
[04:34] <earl_> gotcha
[04:34] <xenol> only 5 i cannot download cause that repo says error 404 :p
[04:34] <manchicken> Them use the flash9 plugin in the firefox32.
[04:34] <Agent_bob> _kuja_ but by a more excelent hack one might make it use both 32bit and 64bit    no?
[04:34] <manchicken> I've got flash9 running in 32-bit firefox without much trouble at all.
[04:35] <manchicken> As soon as we get a free software plugin it'll be much nicer.
[04:35] <Agent_bob> a 64bit wraper for 32bit plugins....
[04:35] <manchicken> Naw.
[04:35] <manchicken> Just install a 32-bit firefox and avoid the dirty hacks.
[04:35] <_kuja_> agent_bob, I don't think so, this hack is very, very ugly.
[04:35] <RoKFiT> lastly how do i import bookmarks.html in konqueror?
[04:36] <manchicken> Bookmarks->Edit bookmarks
[04:36] <manchicken> RoKFiT: That one is in the manual ;)
[04:36] <xenol> manchicken " there was an error commiting changes. possibly there was problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." i get this when i use adept  updater
[04:36] <xenol> and when i use apt-get update i get error 404 on that repo :p
[04:36] <manchicken> xenol: If you REALLY want my help, you need to listen to what I say.  I didn't say anything about adept updater.
[04:37] <xenol> so?
[04:37] <manchicken> xenol: I can't answer a question if you only listen to half of it.
[04:37] <xenol> i removed sk.
[04:37] <xenol> wat else?
[04:37] <manchicken> It's just pointless.  I might as well be talking to a wall.
[04:37] <manchicken> sudo apt-get update
[04:37] <manchicken> Run it.
[04:37] <manchicken> It'll reload the package indices from the sources.
[04:38] <prower> Hello :> I'm just trying out Beryl on my machine...it seems that every time I run quake 4 now it segfaults, is there something else I need to configure to allow fullscreen OpenGL applications? :>
[04:38] <xenol> wat now?
[04:38] <manchicken> When you change your sources you should run apt-get update
[04:38] <xenol> done
[04:38] <rance> I need some advice on a kubuntu sould related problem, I have sound for some apps, but not others, I already checked the box to let kde give up exclusive control of sound device, but that appears not to be enough, where do I go to find out more?
[04:38] <earl_> thanks everybody, see you later
[04:38] <xenol> what shouldi do now?
[04:38] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT bookmarks > edit bookmarks > file > import
[04:39] <manchicken> xenol: now, sudo apt-get install openoffice
[04:39] <RoKFiT> i got it.. i thought those imports imported from programs
[04:39] <RoKFiT> idiot self
[04:39] <Agent_bob> :)
[04:39] <Agent_bob> so is that all so i can close the gui now   :)
[04:39] <xenol> Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[04:39] <xenol>   404 Not Found
[04:39] <xenol> Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Sources
[04:39] <xenol>   404 Not Found
[04:39] <xenol> bah
[04:40] <manchicken> Who said anything about kubuntu.org in your sources?
[04:40] <manchicken> That's not where the repos are.
[04:40] <xenol> i got it from source-o-matic
[04:40] <manchicken> I don't know source-o-matic.  Try commenting out those sources.
[04:40] <xenol> and when i do install OO i get E: Couldn't find package openoffice
[04:41] <Agent_bob> xenol    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[04:41] <RoKFiT> this is quality!
[04:41] <shadowhywind> is there a way to see files that are shared ona  windows PC from the konsole
[04:42] <xenol> agent_bob i have dapper
[04:42] <Agent_bob> !samba
[04:42] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:42] <manchicken> xenol: So just replace the word edgy with dapper
[04:42] <Agent_bob> xenol so s/edgy/dapper/
[04:43] <MuJ> sed is friend
[04:43] <Agent_bob> sed rhaks
[04:44] <MuJ> O_o
[04:44] <BluesKaj> is there a caps lock defeat utility for Linux ?
[04:44] <manchicken> Actually, perl and sed are insanely similar.
[04:44] <MuJ> spake?
[04:44] <Alter-Ego> BluesKaj you mean to keep it on or off ?
[04:45] <BluesKaj> old perl lingo
[04:45] <Agent_bob> MuJ yah never heard that befor ?
[04:45] <BluesKaj> off
[04:45] <MuJ> nevah..
[04:45] <xenol> manchicken got it now but it show that X.org remove is requested why is that ?
[04:45] <MuJ> what does it mean? spake? =D
[04:45] <Alter-Ego> nm, i mis read capslock for numlock
[04:45] <Agent_bob> pased tense of speek     like  spoke
[04:45] <manchicken> xenol: What is "it"?
[04:45] <RoKFiT> konqueror doesn't save passwords?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> spoken in old english-past tense
[04:46] <Agent_bob> passed
[04:46] <MuJ> ok...
[04:46] <Alter-Ego> is there a way to get rid of kde-wallet ?
[04:46] <MuJ> so it's real word though
[04:46] <Agent_bob> it is
[04:46] <BluesKaj> past not passed
[04:46] <xenol> manchicken X server is requested to remove and install something like X server.org drivers input all
[04:46] <xenol> it want to remove X server :/
[04:46] <Agent_bob> BluesKaj how do you know which i meant ?
[04:47] <MuJ> well, you learn something new every day ;)
[04:47] <BluesKaj> one is verb the other an adverb
[04:47] <anddreaz> hi
[04:47] <anddreaz> can i install external taskbar on kicker???
[04:47] <anddreaz> i've deleted for error
[04:47] <manchicken> xenol: WHAT wants to do this?
[04:47] <xenol> adept updater
[04:47] <xenol> i started to update
[04:47] <manchicken> Who said anything about adept updater?
[04:47] <BluesKaj> you guus on't learn grammar anymore in school do you
[04:47] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:48] <xenol> those files r from Debian sarge 3.1 hope it wont delete my X.server :D
[04:48] <Agent_bob> BluesKaj actually i did mean both.    passed past tense   as in one time was.   but anyway.  good on you for correcting my yankey english.
[04:48] <xenol> it is for edgy OMG
[04:48] <MuJ> BluesKaj: well.. that must be like university stuff there =P
[04:48] <manchicken> Yeah, you're not paying attention to folks who're trying to answer your questions.  I'm just not going to bother any more.  Good luck man.
[04:48] <anddreaz> can i install external taskbar on kicker???
[04:48] <anddreaz> i'm invisible -.-
[04:49] <anddreaz> like default taskbar
[04:49] <friedtofu> hm.. cool
[04:49] <BluesKaj> 's ok , im a canadian...we still study grammar for a few weeks in 5th grade
[04:49] <anddreaz> start...apps...open apps
[04:49] <MuJ> and who uses spake anyways?
[04:49] <Agent_bob> BluesKaj well i was a high school drop out in the 70's  :)
[04:50] <MuJ> except for shakespeare of course
[04:50] <larson9999> Agent_bob: i was in the 80's
[04:50] <anddreaz> any help me please?
[04:50] <Agent_bob> i have no idea what we studied,,,, i slept through it.
[04:50] <Agent_bob> ^5 larson9999
[04:50] <BluesKaj> I managed to get out of 12th grade with a diploma in the 60s ... now I'm just a retired geezer
[04:51] <anddreaz> any help me please?4
[04:51] <Agent_bob> BluesKaj you saw the assenation then....
[04:51] <BluesKaj> MuJ, I was born in Kaavi Finland
[04:51] <xenol> manchicken when i downlaoded 3 packages for edgy and closed adept how can i remove them?
[04:51] <MuJ> BluesKaj: really? =D
[04:51] <MuJ> BluesKaj: I'm from Juankoski! =D
[04:52] <BluesKaj> yup, Agent_bob ..in wonderful black & white
[04:52] <manchicken> xenol: You don't listen when I answer.  Good luck.
[04:52] <Agent_bob> yes.  b&w   all there was around here....
[04:52] <manchicken> xenol: BTW, openoffice.org is *NOT* backported to dapper from what I can tell.
[04:52] <anddreaz> can i install external taskbar on kicker???
[04:52] <anddreaz> porco dio
[04:52] <manchicken> You are running the latest version of openoffice.org for dapper.
[04:52] <Agent_bob> anddreaz should work.
[04:52] <xenol> ah
[04:53] <BluesKaj> MuJ, is that close to kaavi ? ...but I've lived in Canada for 59 yrs
[04:53] <xenol> and plz onemore thing i want to know if i downlaoded some packages for edgy through sudo apt-get upgrade r those installed or not?
[04:53] <anddreaz> Agent_bob how?
[04:54] <MuJ> BluesKaj: kaavi and juankoski are neighbour towns =/
[04:54] <Agent_bob> how do they pronounce "Juankoski" ?   is that  wan* ?
[04:54] <BluesKaj> right on MuJ :)
[04:54] <BluesKaj> yup
[04:54] <MuJ> no
[04:54] <manchicken> xenol: If edgy is in your sources.list and you installed stuff then it's entirely possible that you did.
[04:54] <Agent_bob> anddreaz right click menu
[04:54] <BluesKaj> just like my name Kaj , rhymes with sky
[04:54] <manchicken> xenol: That's why we told you to make sure you didn't put edgy in your sources.list.
[04:55] <Agent_bob> anddreaz the right click menu   when you right click the taskbar
[04:55] <MuJ> finnish J is pronounced like Y
[04:55] <anddreaz> Agent_bob on "start bar" not on another position
[04:55] <BluesKaj> and I play drums in a Blues band , Hence Blues-Kaj
[04:55] <MuJ> like in young
[04:55] <Agent_bob> yes
[04:55] <xenol> manchicken can i remove those? i just did downloaded 3 packages for edgy and then closed. so now those downloaded packages r upgraded for edgy? :(
[04:56] <anddreaz> Add New Panel?
[04:56] <MuJ> BluesKaj: care to join kubuntu-fi? =)
[04:56] <BluesKaj> MuJ, J in euro languges are is a Y , except english and italisn
[04:56] <manchicken> xenol: You could just remove those packages, fix your sources.list and reinstall them.
[04:57] <BluesKaj> italian
[04:57] <manchicken> xenol: But you're going to ignore my advice and do what you want anyway, so good luck with that.
[04:57] <anddreaz> Agent_bob Add New Panel?
[04:57] <MuJ> BluesKaj: well spanish and french make it more like I
[04:57] <MuJ> only shortert
[04:58] <Agent_bob> anddreaz i'm not in kde atm.... someone else will have to cover the details. sorry.
[04:58] <anddreaz> ok thanks
[04:58] <Agent_bob> np
[04:58] <BluesKaj> MuJ, my finnish sucks ...we spoke swedish at home as a child but my swedish ain't so great either
[04:58] <anddreaz> any help me please? little help ;)
[04:58] <MuJ> graa.. you said J.. not the Y =D
[04:58] <MuJ> my mistake.. sry
[04:58] <MuJ> spanish and french make the Y -> finnish I
[04:59] <MuJ> not the J
[04:59] <MuJ> BluesKaj: it's ok =)
[04:59] <manchicken> squeak, squeaky-squeak.
[04:59] <MuJ> BluesKaj: how long have you lived in canada?
[04:59] <Agent_bob> MuJ can one of you help anddreaz please.
[05:00] <anddreaz> thanks man ;)
[05:00] <anddreaz> sorry for my english too
[05:00] <BluesKaj> 59 yrs MuJ ... i'm a 63 yr old geezer now
[05:00] <MuJ> ok.. =D
[05:00] <BluesKaj> :)
[05:00] <MuJ> anddreaz: what do you want to do? =)
[05:01] <anddreaz> i've deleted one bar from "kicker"
[05:01] <anddreaz> open applications bar
[05:01] <RoKFiT> how do i restart the panel kicker?
[05:01] <MuJ> BluesKaj: I have some great-aunts living in canada... I've never met them though =(
[05:01] <anddreaz> and now i can't reinstall
[05:02] <BluesKaj> lotsa Finns in my area ...my wife's father's family is Finn
[05:02] <MuJ> anddreaz: right click -> add applet to panel -> taskbar?
[05:02] <RoKFiT> restart kicker?
[05:02] <anddreaz> don't exist
[05:02] <xenol> manchicken so now i can reinstall whole system? :(
[05:02] <anddreaz> Add Applet to Panel
[05:02] <anddreaz> Add Application to Panel
[05:02] <christiane> Any idea why /etc/init.d/cryptdisks doesn't ask for passphrase from runlevel 1 which means at every boot?
[05:03] <anddreaz> Add New Panel
[05:03] <manchicken> xenol: Who said anything about the whole system?
[05:03] <manchicken> xenol: I said PACKAGES, not SYSTEM.
[05:03] <MuJ> anddreaz: what the heck have you done? =D
[05:03] <christiane> Running it later from runlevel 2 it works.
[05:03] <xenol> manchicken i changed sources but no new updates :/
[05:03] <MuJ> do you have the panel at the bottom? =)
[05:03] <MuJ> BluesKaj: cool =)
[05:03] <BluesKaj> how about configure desktop
[05:03] <MuJ> BluesKaj: anyone of you have real saunas there? =P
[05:03] <anddreaz> MuJ the normal panel bottom
[05:03] <xenol> manchicken i need to rebbot give me sec
[05:04] <anddreaz> and the External Taskbar at the top of the screen
[05:04] <BluesKaj> yes MuJ, we had one at our summer cottage
[05:04] <manchicken> WHY would you need to update?
[05:04] <anddreaz> can i move the external taskbar on normal bar?
[05:04] <manchicken> err, reboot.
[05:04] <MuJ> anddreaz: ok, so you want those "open applications" to bottom or to top?
[05:04] <anddreaz> yes
[05:04] <RoKFiT> how do i restart panel?
[05:04] <anddreaz> and i want on normal bar
[05:04] <murchadh_bhaba> anddreaz, Add applet > k-menu
[05:04] <anddreaz> but i can't move
[05:05] <_kuja_> killall kicker && kicker
[05:05] <anddreaz> k-menu lol
[05:05] <MuJ> you need to add applets to the bottom
[05:05] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: what the heck?
[05:05] <MuJ> or to top.. wherever you want those
[05:05] <RoKFiT> how do i get it back?
[05:06] <anddreaz> god
[05:06] <MuJ> yeah, it's a mess ;P
[05:06] <anddreaz> really?
[05:06] <MuJ> it is
[05:06] <MuJ> hope it'll be fixed to kde4
[05:06] <anddreaz> oh shit...windows's are 100 times better
[05:06] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: how do i restart kicker
[05:07] <manchicken> xenol: Why would you need to reboot?
[05:07] <xenol> manchicken after I sudo apt-get update is says that no new packages r avaliable
[05:07] <_kuja_> RoKFiT: in konsole, type killall kicker && kicker
[05:07] <MuJ> actually it's now.. in windows you can't do half the things you can in linux
[05:07] <_kuja_> kills, then restarts
[05:07] <MuJ> or kde and kicker
[05:07] <manchicken> xenol: So?
[05:07] <RoKFiT> no that just kills it
[05:07] <RoKFiT> it didn't restart
[05:07] <xenol> manchicken r those edgy in my pc or not?
[05:07] <_kuja_> type kicker
[05:07] <_kuja_> hit enter, it should restart
[05:07] <manchicken> xenol: You tell me.
[05:08] <MuJ> didn't he just say he had kicker? =/
[05:08] <PsiKloPx> is there a linux version of ctrl-alt-delete?
[05:08] <MuJ> or did I understnad wrong
[05:08] <xenol> manchicken i did this i didnt noticed that edgy :/ so 3 packages downloaded but i closed t cause i saw it that they r for edgy
[05:08] <_kuja_> ctrl + alt + backspace will kill x, and all x programs....
[05:09] <RamiKassab> hey guys if I'm installing Kubuntu as a dual boot with Windows (already installed) when I come to install from the live CD, does Kubuntu have the ability to properly resize the windows partition without corrupting anything?
[05:09] <MuJ> PsiKloPx: ctrl-alt-delete =)
[05:09] <xenol> but now i am confused if they r downloaded and r in my packages in PC or not
[05:09] <RamiKassab> or do I have to resize the windows partition myself via PartitionMagic or something of the like
[05:09] <PsiKloPx> ok, lemme re-phrase the question...lol
[05:09] <manchicken> xenol: Find out what packages those were, remove them, and then reinstall them from apt-get.
[05:09] <PsiKloPx> how can I terminate non-responsive programs?
[05:10] <MuJ> PsiKloPx: actually I'd prefer holding power button of computer down for 4 seconds.. always reboots ;P
[05:10] <MuJ> PsiKloPx: try ctrl-alt-escape and click the program you want to die
[05:10] <xenol> manchicken uff hard thing i dont remember :/ anyway i can see wat i downloaded?
[05:11] <_kuja_> psiklopx .... I find the easiest way is to in konsole, killall <programname>
[05:11] <RoKFiT> okay i can't move icons all the way left on the panel
[05:11] <xenol> manchicken is there some command?
[05:11] <_kuja_> another way is, I think, ctrl + alt + escape, the cursor will switch to a skull and cross bones, click on an app to kill it.
[05:11] <MuJ> ps aux    and   kill something    works too
[05:11] <BluesKaj> anddreaz, right click in the desktop/configure desktop/behaviour/desktop menu button
[05:12] <anddreaz> lol
[05:12] <anddreaz> ok nevermin
[05:12] <anddreaz> *d
[05:12] <xenol> manchicken ?
[05:13] <anddreaz> maybe you use windows 3.1
[05:13] <RamiKassab> guys can I please get some help regarding installing kubuntu as a dual boot option?
[05:13] <manchicken> xenol: Patience.  You screwed up your build, please be patient if you want me to help you figure out something you wouldn't have had to do if you had listened to the whole answer.
[05:14] <BluesKaj> anddreaz, did you try?
[05:14] <manchicken> I'm trying to figure out how to find that information.
[05:14] <murchadh_bhaba> RamiKassab, I've never used Kubuntu for what you're going to do. Always used ultimate boot cd first.
[05:14] <morvok> yawn...
[05:14] <murchadh_bhaba> Kubuntu may well be up to the task but I dunno....
[05:14] <xenol> mancicken i know i am sry kinda noob to linux :( i just want to know if there is any way to those dapper packages back
[05:15] <manchicken> xenol: This is GNU.  Linux is just the kernel.
[05:15] <manchicken> xenol: Anyway, what does dpkg -C give you?
[05:15] <BluesKaj> RamiKassab, DL GParted live cd partitioner utility ...it'll setup a linux ext ans swap partiton in aspace on your drive while leaving the windows partition intact.
[05:16] <murchadh_bhaba> Nice tip BluesKaj , cheers!
[05:16] <xenol> manchicken well only parameters on dpkg
[05:16] <MuJ> BluesKaj: it was nice to meet you, hope we see again. It's 6am so it's time for me to get some sleep! ;P
[05:17] <BluesKaj> it works well murchadh_bhaba , I used it
[05:17] <BluesKaj> ok MuJ , nice to meet you too :) . take care
[05:17] <MuJ> o/ everybody =)
[05:17] <xenol> manchicken ty for help  i will reinstall whole system
[05:17] <xenol> GN
[05:18] <manchicken> lmao
[05:18] <manchicken> Why do I bother?
[05:18] <murchadh_bhaba> Where on earth is it 6am, that there are people?
[05:18] <Agent_bob> "they come for the land of the ice and snow. of the midnight sun and the harsh winds blow."  <-name that song.
[05:19] <BluesKaj> manchicken, ya win some ya lose some ... some ppl don't listen too well :)
[05:19] <murchadh_bhaba> Hey manchicken, you did you're best for that guy. I'd have put him on ignore after the third time he completely ignored you.
[05:19] <manchicken> BluesKaj: What's interesting is that he wanted to update a package in dapper that wasn't backported.
[05:19] <_kuja_> certainly not 6am here ... hahaha
[05:19] <BluesKaj> the immigrant song ...Led Zepp , 1974
[05:20] <BluesKaj> good one Agent_bob :)
[05:20] <Agent_bob> had/hat
[05:20] <_kuja_> 23:22 ..and I'm not ready for sleeping yet :P
[05:20] <BluesKaj> nope , no google ...i bought the album back then
[05:21] <Agent_bob> and yes it was.    a clasic in the pure sense of the word.
[05:21] <BluesKaj> I still have tha album on vinyl
[05:21] <manchicken> You all are so encouraging *sob*
[05:21] <BluesKaj> absolutely Agent_bob
[05:21] <murchadh_bhaba> manchicken, hehe
[05:22] <Agent_bob> i had several of their tapes. but never did to vinal .
[05:22] <kai> Hello All, is there any one in here that uses Opera web browser
[05:22] <Skeez187> Is there a way to play a dvd from file? None of the players seem to be able to
[05:22] <Agent_bob> to/do
[05:22] <Agent_bob> man i just as well hang it up.  befor i typo the enternet right out of existance.....
[05:22] <BluesKaj> I'm old so i still have plenty of vinyl in my music collection
[05:23] <kai> how can I get .movs and macromedia plugins to work?
[05:23] <Skeez187> Automatix
[05:23] <_kuja_> macromedia/adobe flash would be easy, .movs might not be.
[05:23] <Agent_bob> later BluesKaj
[05:23] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, My kids are killin' one another for vinyl again!
[05:24] <kai> What would I need to do I got that 'motif' installed and everything what else can I do
[05:24] <manchicken> !codecs
[05:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <manchicken> kai: Check those out.
[05:24] <_kuja_> I'm pretty sure Opera dropped the motif requirements.
[05:25] <kai> I can get those stupid ads from macromedia, but I can preview clips and what not
[05:25] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, it's noisier but it's closer to the source than digital
[05:25] <BluesKaj>  it's been fun gents ...good crew here this evening
[05:25] <BluesKaj> nitr all ! :)
[05:26] <_kuja_> When you said adobe/macromedia plugins though, assuming you mean flash (the popular one), you can get version 7 of flash from here: www.adobe.com, or version 9beta2 of flash from here: labs.adobe.com
[05:26] <murchadh_bhaba> And the 8-track. I gotta go guys, west of Ireland 4 am. That's why I was trying figure where it was 6am. Middle of the Atlantic somewhere. Googlearth tomorrow maybe. Vinyl, man, scritchin'! I love. Peace and Good Night all!
[05:27] <kai> hmmm do you think those plugins
[05:27] <kai> will work in Opera as well
[05:27] <kai> hmm../
[05:27] <_kuja_> Flash does, other things, it depends what.
[05:28] <faeryNatsuki> hello
[05:28] <_kuja_> hi
[05:28] <intelikey> murchadh_bhaba hehhe  i did 8tracks on my motercycle in the 70's  talk of the town.     (little bity town)
[05:28] <faeryNatsuki> does somebody how to configure kopete to say it to not to remember my buddy list?
[05:29] <murchadh_bhaba> intelikey, hehe itty bitty towns I've known
[05:29] <intelikey> :)
[05:29] <kai> Thanx
[05:29] <kai> I thought that stuff was already installed
[05:31] <faeryNatsuki> somebody able to help me with kopete?
[05:32] <manchicken> faeryNatsuki: What's the problem?
[05:32] <faeryNatsuki> my kopete keep a list of my contacts in the computer
[05:33] <manchicken> Yeah?
[05:33] <faeryNatsuki> but this is bad, i use more than this computer, and if i delete a contact in other place, when i came back here kopete "list" him again
[05:34] <faeryNatsuki> same problem if i move a buddy from une group to other using a different client or computer, when i open kopete again, he "restores" what it have here, and my buddy is in two groups then :S
[05:34] <DrCub> Hello, I was wondering if Kubuntu would be able to read my external hard drive enclosure, the thing is that the hard drive is formatted to NTFS
[05:34] <faeryNatsuki> i want to set kopete for not to remember my buddy list
[05:35] <_kuja_> DrCub, It can.
[05:35] <DrCub> ok, thanks
[05:35] <faeryNatsuki> DrCub: you can read ntfs using ubuntu or kubuntu
[05:35] <DrCub> alright
[05:35] <DrCub> just making sure :)
[05:35] <faeryNatsuki> if you need to write check ntfs-3g, but be careful using it
[05:36] <_kuja_> search the ubuntu wiki for ntfs-fuse or ntfs-3g if you want write capabilities also.
[05:36] <faeryNatsuki> manchicken: do you know how to set that in kopete?
[05:36] <DrCub> no I just need read
[05:37] <faeryNatsuki> mmm, i'll delete then this kopete and use gaim instead :(
[05:37] <DrCub> thanks
[05:38] <manchicken> faeryNatsuki: What protocol?
[05:38] <faeryNatsuki> msn
[05:39] <manchicken> faeryNatsuki: If you're having a problem with that you need to post a bug report.
[05:40] <faeryNatsuki> thanks, manchicken, but it seems KDE team will not work on kopete until KDE4 release...
[05:40] <faeryNatsuki> but i'll send a bug, it's the way to help community :D
[05:40] <manchicken> faeryNatsuki: Yeah.  It may be fixed then.
[05:46] <kilrae> shocking, packages only has koffice 1.5
[05:50] <intelikey> hmmm i'm probably not goint to use it at all but in configuring kontact  mail  when entering a new folder there are three "jump to" options but why can't i select start at first message or jump to top of list or something,  why the hell is it "assumed" that one only wants to jump to something ????
[05:50] <intelikey> going
[05:57] <kilrae> i guess they figured you'd probably want to be somewhere near the new messages
[05:58] <kilrae> should there be any
[05:59] <goodthing> anyone knows why letters with  and the like with an " on top are viewed as square with i.e. Lohit Tamile font or the TSCuComic font?
[05:59] <intelikey> yes they assumed too much.      also i had to set the timedate settings in kde to get the calender back to the propper day of week layout   but kontact refuses to use parper settings  it insists on changing the week to start on monday.  so  ok i'm definitely not going to use kontact.
[06:00] <faeryNatsuki> how can I use the custom emoticons my friends send in kopete?
[06:01] <goodthing> *Lohit Tamil
[06:02] <DrCub> I have installed the broadcom driver, can I get that to work with WPA encryption
[06:02] <unix_infidel> wpa_supplicant
[06:03] <DrCub> ok
[06:03] <goodthing> they are in the package ttf-fossfonts in case anyone wants to look
[06:05] <RoKFiT> i've created an extra panel, and on that panel i cannot move the icon all the way to the left, there is just an empty space.
[06:05] <intelikey> tty23 [root@~]  urpme qt*
[06:06] <intelikey> After unpacking 431MB disk space will be freed.
[06:06] <intelikey> nice  :)
[06:06] <intelikey> ok kde gets the boot.
[06:06] <manchicken> y?
[06:07] <manchicken> K is your friend ^_^
[06:07] <intelikey> cause i don't like it any more.    to many things that they have assumed about my tastes that don't fit my tastes.
[06:08] <RoKFiT> intelikey: how do i restart kicker?
[06:08] <intelikey> it's ok to add options to change the calender, it not acceptable to force that change.
[06:08] <RoKFiT> my icons are jammed on my extra panel
[06:08] <intelikey> RoKFiT sudo killall kicker && kicker
[06:08] <manchicken> intelikey: You know you can change it up pretty well don't you? ;)
[06:09] <RoKFiT> what do you mean by that?
[06:09] <intelikey> manchicken if it were changable i would have kept kde...
[06:09] <RoKFiT> oh nm, sorry
[06:10] <manchicken> intelikey: What in specific is the problem?
[06:10] <intelikey> manchicken i am pretty bad to use the baseball method of removing software.  one thing i don't like.... ok    two things i dont like  now see here....  three things   YOU'RE OUTA THERE!
[06:11] <intelikey> manchicken kontact
[06:11] <intelikey> kdm using /root
[06:11] <intelikey> dcopserver being forced into /root
[06:12] <intelikey> the calender being reordered in several apps
[06:12] <intelikey> that was enough.
[06:12] <manchicken> intelikey: I suppose windowmaker will do for you ^_^
[06:12] <intelikey> manchicken twm is fine with me.
[06:12] <manchicken> xubuntu uses xfce.
[06:13] <intelikey> i like black box  quite well, hereunto....
[06:13] <manchicken> Blackbox is nice.
[06:13] <intelikey> xfce4 requires some things i don't like    but i can tolerate it.   it kinda a strick one.
[06:14] <intelikey> fluxbox is ok
[06:14] <intelikey> but heck im at home in the console.....    what more need be said ?
[06:15] <manchicken> That's cool.
[06:16] <goodthing> intelikey: are the fluxbox packages for ubuntu?
[06:16] <goodthing> i mean, the kubuntu-desktop alike
[06:17] <intelikey> basicly in a word, this is my gripe:  if you make an app or interface with only one function/setting/configuration that's fine  but when you make something configurable,  DO NOT leave out the configuration i want."   :)
[06:17] <intelikey> goodthing yes.
[06:17] <jasin> hi
[06:17] <jasin> why is kdm so slowwwwwwwwww ?
[06:17] <intelikey> goodthing errr not sure what you mean "the kubuntu-desktop alike" ???
[06:18] <intelikey> jasin idk why does it write in /root even if that is not root's home and doesn't exist.... ?
[06:18] <jasin> what?
[06:18] <intelikey> yes kdm soes that.
[06:19] <intelikey> does
[06:19] <goodthing> intelikey: i mean the meta-package for a desktop environment in ubuntu (kde, gnome, xfce...) Is there one for flux?
[06:20] <intelikey> goodthing no.  only xfce4 kde and gnome that i know of.
[06:20] <goodthing> bummer, thanks
[06:20] <intelikey> np
[06:20] <jasin> I dont like gnome
[06:20] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[06:21] <intelikey> fluxbox - Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager
[06:21] <intelikey> fluxconf - FluxBox configuration utility
[06:21] <alexicon> !pastebin
[06:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:21] <intelikey> goodthing you can install those two and then add what you like.
[06:21] <[Relic] > I have a DVD full of data I can't seem to copy off of in the konquer system and get IO errors when trying to do it normally; any idea if there is a fix?
[06:22] <jasin> disabling resources only speeds up teh boot process so much.
[06:22] <goodthing> intelikey: way too cool, thank you :)
[06:22] <intelikey> [Relic]  eject and clean the surface of the disk ?
[06:22] <[Relic] > I can click on the disk and get the file structures
[06:23] <intelikey> goodthing welcome
[06:23] <jasin> flux  is ugly
[06:23] <jasin> ;P
[06:23] <intelikey> jasin id doesn't have to be.
[06:23] <alexicon> can someone please help with my wifi problem, i tried dhclient manually but i still cant connect to wifi networks :(
[06:23] <alexicon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37504/
[06:23] <goodthing> jasin: come on, that's just 100% personal and you know it
[06:24] <intelikey> alexicon you did visit the wiki's on that didn't you ?
[06:24] <alexicon> flux is beautiful once you configure it ;P
[06:24] <alexicon> intelikey: link please :)
[06:24] <intelikey> !wifi
[06:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:24] <alexicon> oh..
[06:24] <jasin> I like the look and functionality of kde.
[06:24] <RoKFiT> thanks intellikey
[06:25] <intelikey> jasin  i do too
[06:25] <alexicon> yeah but the bloat gets annoying sometimes
[06:25] <intelikey> RoKFiT welcome
[06:25] <jasin> goodthing, of course, flux is a personal prefrence.
[06:25] <intelikey> jasin that's not enough to keep me from removing it from my system....
[06:25] <xsacha> hey can anyone explain this? when i do ctrl+alt+pagedown, all my processes appear to 'lock up' for a second
[06:25] <jasin> goodthing, we all got our own lil things, some like this and some like that.
[06:26] <goodthing> true
[06:26] <xsacha> i checked top and when i do ctrl+alt+pagedown all my processes go to 0% and my total cpu usage is either 0%, 50% or 100%
[06:26] <alexicon> has anyone else experienced the problem where wifi card is recognised and can see networks but will not connect??
[06:26] <xsacha> (spot on)
[06:26] <alexicon> cant remember who i was speaking to the other day about it
[06:26] <jasin> alexicon, what wifi card you got?
[06:26] <alexicon> 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[06:26] <intelikey> xsacha what is  ctrl+alt+pagedown set to ?
[06:27] <xsacha> nothing
[06:27] <intelikey> must be a hot key for something
[06:27] <xsacha> it must be some inbuilt keyboard combo..
[06:27] <xsacha> cause i have never changed it
[06:27] <alexicon> its on a vaio sz
[06:27] <xsacha> it some how makes all processes have 0% cpu usage
[06:28] <intelikey> xsacha check the keyboard shortcuts settings and see what it's trying to do maybe
[06:28] <xsacha> where's that?
[06:28] <jasin> alexicon, intel has linux drivers for that card: http://www.intel.com/support/notebook/sb/cs-006408.htm
[06:28] <alexicon> hrm
[06:28] <alexicon> ok
[06:28] <alexicon> hrm
[06:29] <alexicon> i dont think its a problem with the drivers or the card
[06:29] <alexicon> i think its with dhcp
[06:29] <alexicon> if you look at the pastebin anyway
[06:29] <jasin> alexicon, oh
[06:29] <alexicon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37504/
[06:29] <alexicon> 66. ==>stderr: There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 134993416
[06:30] <alexicon> @_@
[06:30] <alexicon> i dont know what that means or what to do about it really
[06:30] <jasin> alexicon, set wireless assitant  to auto dhcp and also under network settings for eth1
[06:31] <alexicon> yueah its on auto dhcp
[06:31] <alexicon> also under network settings for eth1?
[06:31] <emfb> what package do i need to install to get the gnu c/c++ compilers? Im running the daper version of kubunu.
[06:31] <xsacha> intelikey: ctrl+alt+shift+pagedown appears to be a direct reboot... but without the shift it should be nothing?
[06:31] <jasin> alexicon, I got the same card just an older model and thats what I had to do.
[06:31] <alexicon> where? kcontrol?
[06:31] <alexicon> hrm
[06:32] <alexicon> OH
[06:32] <alexicon> its working now @_@
[06:32] <alexicon> i dont know why or how
[06:32] <alexicon> lol
[06:32] <alexicon> its done this before though
[06:32] <alexicon> randomly connected to one network once
[06:32] <alexicon> then never connects again
[06:33] <jasin> alexicon, sometimes if you do a shutdown -r now from the terminal as root and then start the computer backup it recognizes the network settings.
[06:34] <jasin> alexicon, thats probably what happen for you, something like that
[06:34] <jasin> alexicon, glad its working for you :)
[06:35] <T3hWiz0rd> Good evening all of you wonderful kubuntuans! MUAH!
[06:36] <jasin> hi t3h
[06:36] <T3hWiz0rd> jasin: how are you?
[06:36] <jasin> wonderful thanks
[06:36] <jasin> powers been out for 3 days
[06:36] <alexicon> it stopped working :P
[06:36] <alexicon> heh
[06:36] <alexicon> so weird
[06:37] <alexicon> i got onto an unlocked network, after it said it failed
[06:37] <jasin> alexicon, stopscrewing with the settings lol
[06:37] <alexicon> then i tried to get onto my encrypted network and its not having it :P
[06:37] <jasin> alexicon, stop screwing with the settings lol
[06:37] <alexicon> :P
[06:37] <alexicon> yeah i should stop, but this really should work :P
[06:38] <jasin> yeah, you have to enter the string as hex not ascii
[06:38] <alexicon> :P
[06:38] <jasin> alexicon, yeah but in my expierence if you keeo screwing with the settings you'll just make things worse.
[06:39] <jasin> alexicon, I learned the hard way, trust me.
[06:39] <alexicon> wlanassistant is pretty limited in what i can change
[06:39] <alexicon> and this is working properly in suse
[06:39] <alexicon> and previously worked fine with dapper
[06:39] <alexicon> maybe i'll just go back to dapper
[06:39] <alexicon> edgy is retarded anyway
[06:40] <jasin> alexicon,  wlanassistant and system settings/network settings have to have identical settings and after you config each you need to shutdown the pc.
[06:40] <alexicon> lol
[06:40] <alexicon> thats so windows
[06:40] <alexicon> X-D
[06:40] <jasin> alexicon, no .. thats what you have to do.
[06:40] <alexicon> :(
[06:40] <alexicon> i cant say im happy about that
[06:40] <jasin> alexicon, thats kubuntu.
[06:40] <alexicon> meh
[06:41] <alexicon> well at least kubuntu knows the card, ubuntu doesnt even get that far
[06:41] <alexicon> why couldnt suse just use .deb files.. -_-
[06:41] <jasin> alexicon, your wifi card is very well supported in linux, so if things are screwed up then you probably messed them up.
[06:41] <alexicon> fresh install
[06:41] <alexicon> ive literally just installed this
[06:41] <alexicon> ive done three kubuntu reinstalls
[06:41] <jasin> alexicon, yes but you'll still have to config wep.
[06:41] <alexicon> and tried ubuntu
[06:41] <alexicon> to no avail
[06:42] <alexicon> yes
[06:42] <alexicon> i know how to work it :P
[06:42] <alexicon> ive seen it work before
[06:42] <alexicon> this is some weird bug in kubuntu
[06:42] <jasin> alexicon, i ws telling you how to get it working but you just weren't listening.
[06:42] <alexicon> i will try the shutdown thing
[06:42] <alexicon> although im not convinced
[06:42] <jasin> alexicon, ummmmmmmm I said more then just shutdown.
[06:42] <alexicon> and i dont think people would be happy to have to reboot every time they wanted to change what wifi network they were on
[06:43] <alexicon> shutdown -r, hex wep key
[06:43] <jasin> alexicon, I can't help you if you refuse to help yourself
[06:43] <alexicon> lol
[06:43] <jasin> alexicon, ummmmmmmm thats not quit what i said.
[06:43] <jasin> alexicon have fun fiquring it out yourself.
[06:43] <jasin> alexicon good luck
[06:50] <stdin> just got me a new nickname, what ya think?
[06:51] <[Relic] > what file is the list of grub entries in?
[06:51] <stdin> [Relic] : /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:59] <matthew> darn it, my xbox stopped booting...what a bummer
[07:13] <philipp__> hello, I have a graphics problem in kubuntu (fresh install): when I scroll in windows (e.g. firefox), then pages do not move smoothly
[07:13] <philipp__> can anyone help?
[07:13] <stdin> philipp__: you in edgy or dapper?
[07:13] <philipp__> edgy
[07:14] <stdin> try this, go to system settings -> Apperance
[07:14] <philipp__> k
[07:14] <stdin> then go to GTK styles and fonts
[07:15] <philipp__> then install the scrollbar fix?
[07:15] <stdin> yep
[07:15] <stdin> see if that helps
[07:16] <philipp__> no, did not help
[07:16] <philipp__> I am talking about the window contents itself
[07:17] <stdin> then I don't know, sorry
[07:17] <philipp__> the contents of the window (eg. webpage) moves in waves when I scroll
[07:18] <philipp__> is vesa a generic graphics card driver?
[07:18] <stdin> yeah, works on just about anything
[07:18] <stdin> what specs do you have (and I don't mean glasses :p )?
[07:19] <emfb> which version of Xfree86 in installed with the dapper drake version of Kubuntu?
[07:19] <philipp__> and it does usually work, or could it be the problem that the vesa driver is not specific enough?
[07:19] <stdin> emfb: it's not Xfree86, it's Xorg
[07:19] <philipp__> how can I find out which version of xorg I have?
[07:19] <emfb> vesa is not accelerated thats why it runs like crap.
[07:20] <emfb> stdin: thanks
[07:20] <stdin> "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg" will tall you the version
[07:21] <stdin> philipp__: what graphics card do you have?
[07:22] <philipp__> s3 savage something
[07:22] <philipp__> twister
[07:23] <philipp__> 1.7.1 seems to be the xorg version
[07:23] <stdin> why don't you use the driver for it
[07:23] <stdin> ?
[07:29] <emfb> how do i get a "kernel module build environment" ?
[07:29] <emfb> thats the error I got when trying to install the ati drivers
[07:30] <stdin> you need the packages "build-essential" and either the kernel headers or kernel source
[07:31] <philipp__> I can change the graphics driver under "monitor&display"/"hardware", right?
[07:31] <philipp__> tried putting s3, and it suggested a particular model
[07:31] <philipp__> I clicked "testing", and the screen went grey
[07:32] <philipp__> how can you get out of the testing mode (other than by resetting the computer)
[07:32] <philipp__> ?
[07:33] <emfb> what package are the headers in?
[07:33] <inteliwasp> how can i change the media defaults?
[07:34] <stdin> woah, sorry was gettin coffee
[07:34] <emfb> nevermind i found it
[07:35] <stdin> philipp__: maybe you'll get better help in #xorg as it's likely an xorg probelm
[07:35] <philipp__> thanks for the hint, I will try #xorg
[07:35] <philipp__> have a nice day stdin
[07:36] <stdin> you too philipp__
[07:44] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[07:45] <phobiac> Apt-get has a bunch of packages set in something called "autoremove", and it keeps trying to delete them. However some of them I want to keep, like k3b and a few others. Is it possible to just completely remove this autoremove option? It seems like it's more annoying than useful.
[07:45] <[Relic] > I installed some stuff from archived backups and need to get the archive off and set it so that it is back to read/write on data files through several recursed directories; I  know it can be done, just don't know how
[07:46] <phobiac> !apt-get
[07:46] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:48] <stdin> [Relic] : chmod -R ?
[07:48] <[Relic] > but what is ?  :)
[07:49] <stdin> you want to change permissions recursively?
[07:49] <[Relic] > just want to make sure all the archived stuff from the CD backup is readwrite recursively through all the subdirs
[07:49] <stdin> ahh
[07:50] <stdin> [Relic] : chmod u+rw [directory] 
[07:51] <dope> is there a media control thing that'll be out of the way and possibly integrate into the kde desktop?
[07:52] <[Relic] > so -R also to go down all the subdirs?
[07:53] <stdin> [Relic] : yeah, i just saw my typo then. the -R switch goes in all the sibdirs too, yeah
[07:54] <dope> none?
[07:54] <stdin> [Relic] : the command should be: chmod -R u+rw [directory] 
[07:55] <[Relic] > what if it is in a hidden dir?
[07:56] <stdin> it will still work
[07:56] <[Relic] > trying to get my mailbox working again
[07:56] <emfb> whats the easiest way to upgrade the kernel to the latest version?
[07:57] <stdin> emfb: what do you mean, the latest ubuntu kernel, or the latest one from kernel.org ?
[08:00] <emfb> im trying to install the ati drivers and Im getting a kernel mismatch error. The ATI drivers were posted on Dec 13 so I'm assuming I need the lastest kernel installed. I have no idea exactly which version I need.
[08:01] <stdin> emfb: more likely you need to recompile the ATI driver to work with the kernel
[08:01] <emfb> ATI's FAQ says i need 2.4
[08:02] <stdin> emfb: you'll be on 2.6
[08:02] <stdin> 2.4 is OLD
[08:03] <emfb> oh.. should have finished reading... support for 2.6 is also included
[08:04] <stdin> you normally have to compile the binary driver
[08:05] <emfb> the driver comes as a self extracting script. it decompresses and runs another install script. after the install fails is automaticly removes the decompressed data.
[08:06] <dope> how do i change my password for root?
[08:08] <emfb> this is the error i get:
[08:08] <emfb> [Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[08:08] <emfb> [Message]  Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[08:08] <emfb> [Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment
[08:08] <dope> is there a way to have the screensaver come up when i lock the session?
[08:11] <stdin> emfb: i can't really help with the binary driver, as I don't use one
[08:12] <dope> anyone?
[08:12] <dope> i just want the screensaver to come up
[08:12] <emfb> is there an open source alt for ati hardware acceleration?
[08:13] <stdin> don't know
[08:13] <stdin> dope: I dont know how to do that either
[08:13] <dope> i got it
[08:13] <dope> does it automatically but my thing was messed up
[08:14] <stdin> ahh
[08:16] <zig__> hi all, I'm having problem with the screensaver and monitor standby
[08:17] <zig__> sometimes the screensaver start much too early (after only few seconds of inactivity) or it won't work at all
[08:18] <dope> how do i make konqueror my default browser
[08:21] <dope> ok i think i found it
[08:27] <dope> is there a program i can install on a windows machine to control it from my linux box?
[08:27] <dope> i guess realvnc?
[08:28] <wildchild> important q. If I'll screw up with atosturt up scripts... how can I fix that in case that I can't get in to my x. Is there any recovery mode or smth. ?
[08:30] <[Relic] > what are my options for java?
[08:30] <dope> yes
[08:32] <[Relic] > for firefox and mozilla  :)
[08:38] <stdin> !Java | [Relic] 
[08:38] <ubotu> [Relic] : To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:38] <[Relic] > :)
[08:39] <stdin> it's quite easy, enable multiverse, install sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-plugin
[08:40] <stdin> too late
[08:59] <spitwise> hola Mythbusters
[09:02] <akrus> hello everyone :)
[09:02] <akrus> could someone tell me
[09:02] <akrus> should I buy nVidia or ATI video card?
[09:02] <matthew> !anyone | akrus
[09:02] <ubotu> akrus: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:03] <matthew> akrus, nvidia
[09:03] <BioVorE> nvidia works best in linux
[09:03] <akrus> matthew: does it work okay with AIGLX?
[09:03] <matthew> The drivers are open, I think
[09:03] <matthew> akrus, not sure, but it should
[09:03] <BioVorE> well there good drivers for linux with nvidia
[09:03] <akrus> currently using ATI, but it lags so much~
[09:03] <spitwise> i see a lot of nvidia q's here though
[09:03] <BioVorE> it works well with the AIGLX very well
[09:03] <akrus> hm, okay :)
[09:03] <spitwise> (i use ati)
[09:03] <akrus> then nice :)
[09:04] <matthew> I use ATI, but I don't have any kind of acceleration.
[09:04] <spitwise> as in not working out of box?
[09:04] <matthew> really sucks, cause it's a rage 128, 64M RAM...oh well
[09:04] <BioVorE> some ati cards don't work at all
[09:04] <akrus> mine 9550
[09:05] <matthew> my card works...just no 3d or openGL
[09:05] <akrus> but under Wine i get 1~3 FPS
[09:05] <akrus> whereas my friend with nVidia card can play without any problems :(
[09:05] <spitwise> nvidia better, newer but a little lag in supprt?
[09:05] <matthew> yeah, nvidia is def. the way to go
[09:05] <BioVorE> nVidia drivers a decent..  I had nothing but problems with ATI cards..
[09:06] <BioVorE> 1 driver works with all the cards..
[09:06] <akrus> :)
[09:06] <akrus> under Windows it's okay
[09:06] <akrus> lol
[09:06] <BioVorE> I hoping to see AMD opensource the ATI Graphics card driver.. if that happens ATI might start to be the better choice for linux.. :-)
[09:06] <akrus> oh and is SLI supported?
[09:06] <BioVorE> nVidia has SLI support for linux..
[09:06] <akrus> oh nice
[09:07] <akrus> and last question
[09:07] <BioVorE> AIT dose as well.. but I don't know the (who what where's) about it..
[09:07] <akrus> is beta driver better than latest stable?
[09:07] <BioVorE> debatable
[09:07] <spitwise> heh
[09:08] <spitwise> fine line there ..
[09:08] <BioVorE> beta driver has some newer features in it.. but the newer features bring newer bugs
[09:08] <akrus> :)
[09:08] <akrus> just stable is newer
[09:08] <BioVorE> beta nvidia drivers are suggested if your going to run AIGLX
[09:08] <akrus> released in december... beta -> november
[09:09] <BioVorE> but be ware.. AIGLX kills gamming perforamce..
[09:09] <akrus> :o
[09:09] <akrus> really?
[09:09] <BioVorE> yeah.. well your rendering your hole desktop in opengl now.. so there is alot of overhead now.. could be fixed in the future though..
[09:10] <akrus> but with compiz/beryl disabled?
[09:10] <akrus> or it does not matter?
[09:10] <BioVorE> then its good to go
[09:11] <akrus> hmm
[09:11] <spitwise> erll
[09:11] <akrus> anyway I still do not understand the difference :)
[09:11] <akrus> ah nvm
[09:11] <akrus> 256Mb PCI-E GeForce 7600GT, MSI, HDTV, 2DVI, retail <-- is it okay? :)
[09:11] <BioVorE> basicly.. if you game on yourl inux box.. don't use the fancy openGL window mangement untill the get it completely figured out..
[09:12] <BioVorE> yes that ok..
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[09:12] <akrus> by the way I got beryl working with fglrx :)
[09:12] <akrus> MilhousePunkRock: hey
[09:12] <BioVorE> yeah.. it works on some ATI cards..
[09:12] <akrus> strange :/
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello Hobbsee!
[09:12] <akrus> but then it disappeared xD
[09:12] <BioVorE> that ATI card on my lappy dosn't cut it though..
[09:13] <BioVorE> X1400
[09:13] <akrus> hm
[09:13] <BioVorE> so I bumped it to a Nvidia card.. and it works fine now..
[09:13] <Adlai> BioVorE, same
[09:14] <Hobbsee> hey MilhousePunkRock
[09:14] <akrus> is there kinda VIVO for nVidia?
[09:14] <BioVorE> you mean a VIVO laptop with a Nvidia card in it?
[09:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Did I mention that power management by now is satisfactory here? :-D
[09:14] <akrus> nah
[09:14] <akrus> just with TV-in :)
[09:15] <BioVorE> get a TV capture card..
[09:15] <BioVorE> something with a BT868 chipset works great
[09:15] <akrus> double hardware :)
[09:15] <akrus> 768Mb PCI-E GeForce 8800 GTX DDR3, TV,DVI, Palit o_O
[09:15] <BioVorE> the ATI TV in dosn't work in linux, (I don't think)
[09:15] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: nope
[09:15] <akrus> 768? o_O
[09:15] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: but cool
[09:16] <akrus> ATI does not, I know :)
[09:16] <BioVorE> Nvidia dosn't do TV in...  there is a TV out though.. (that dose work)
[09:16] <akrus> ok
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Indeed... I even finished my next "project" yesterday... Though that was not Kubuntu related...
[09:16] <akrus> what's better: MSI or ASUS? :)
[09:16] <BioVorE> pain to setup correctly thogh..
[09:16] <BioVorE> for what?
[09:17] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: awww
[09:17] <akrus> o_o
[09:17] <akrus> Video
[09:17] <BioVorE> graphics card?
[09:17] <BioVorE> dosn't mater really..
[09:17] <akrus> ASUS is cheaper xD
[09:17] <BioVorE> There all just refabs
[09:17] <akrus> ECS is even cheaper than both
[09:17] <BioVorE> Nvidia makes everything for them.. the vender just slaps it on a board, and off they go..
[09:18] <akrus> :)
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Getting my new MTP-based MP3-player to work with Amarok... Took me "only" 3 weekends... :-)
[09:18] <BioVorE> they do silly things like tweek the clock rate of the nvidia chipset though...
[09:18] <BioVorE> but you can do that your self
[09:18] <akrus> what about silence then? :)
[09:18] <BioVorE> silence?
[09:19] <akrus> I meant the loudness of cooler
[09:19] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: ahhh.  you needed libmtp2 instaleld?
[09:19] <akrus> Gigabyte with Passive
[09:19] <akrus> o_O
[09:20] <BioVorE> well thats just controled by the control circuit on the cards most of the time..
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Well, yes. But it only worked with 0.1.0 which was released on the 8th of December
[09:20] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: ahhhh.
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> And of course was not in portage (I am referring to my desktop with Gentoo on it here)
[09:20] <Hobbsee> !info libmtp2 feisty
[09:20] <ubotu> libmtp2: Implementation of Microsoft's MTP. In component main, is optional. Version 0.0.18-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 48 kB, installed size 168 kB
[09:20] <dope> so i installed kubuntu over ubuntu and it's working fine and everything but i want it to say kubuntu when it boots up instead of ubuntu, is this possible?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: libmtp2 is out of date now
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> dope: You would have to replace the bootsplash
[09:21] <akrus> BioVorE: just should not be louder than 25 dbi x
[09:21] <akrus> xD
[09:21] <dope> is there a package i can install that'll do that?
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Now? 0.0.21 was released back in October!
[09:21] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: heh.  point taken
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> dope: Basically it's finding a bootsplash (www.kde-look.org might be a good place to look) and changing Grub accordingly...
[09:22] <BioVorE> well 0 db (SPL) is 20 micropascels  rms
[09:22] <dope> ok thx
[09:22] <spitwise> !bootloader
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootloader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <BioVorE> !grub
[09:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: On top of that I needed to upgrade the player's firmware to one that was pretty much hidden on the manufacturer's site
[09:23] <spitwise> :)
[09:23] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: ugh, fun
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> And, of course, recompile Amarok a few times
[09:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: The hardest part was installing the brand new libmtp in a way Amarok would make use of it...
[09:24] <BioVorE> anyway.. off to bed here.. night fellas
[09:24] <BioVorE> (or morning depending on where you are)
[09:24] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: right, so amarok needs a rebuild too.  any other problems?
[09:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Hehe, BioVorE... Good night!
[09:25] <prak> i'm new to kubuntu linux; just wondering what's the package manager called?
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Only minor stuff left undone... Album art, play count and ratings...
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> prak: Adept
[09:25] <spitwise> !apt
[09:25] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:25] <prak> thank you
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> prak: If you want to learn stuff "the linux way", get familiar with apt on the shell
[09:26] <spitwise> adept is the gui version
[09:26] <spitwise> of apt
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: My players supports all that, Amarok too somewhat for media devices, but the (slightly outdated) wiki says the iPod is the only player so far that can do play count and ratings
[09:28] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: ahh, then hte wiki needs fixing
[09:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Why is it called libmtp2 on Kubuntu anyway?
[09:28] <Hobbsee> i dont know
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Is there a way to have stuff installed from source so apt notices the upgrade?
[09:30] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: er, not unless you build a debian package of it
[09:31] <Hobbsee> or build the feisty source for edgy
[09:31] <Hobbsee> (when it updates)
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Because that's pretty much what I did on Gentoo accordingly
[09:33] <spitwise> why would apt not recognize dependencies installed from source?
[09:33] <Hobbsee> spitwise: actually, it might
[09:33] <spitwise> or am i missing the q ..
[09:33] <Hobbsee> because it only deals with debian packages, usually
[09:33] <Hobbsee> nice, libmtp builds quickly
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> MilhousePunkRock: some packages yes
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> if they are in the repos
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Admiral_Chicago: Thanks, it was only a theoretical question though, I feed my player from the desktop (with Gentoo on it) since that's where the ext HDD is...
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> MilhousePunkRock: for example, i had the latest gaim which i installed from source
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> anyways, i was in bed earlier.
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> I was until a drunk buddy woke me up o.O
[09:37] <spitwise> i wish a drunk buddy would knoxk me out
[09:37] <spitwise> :P
[09:37] <spitwise> fitting typo there
[09:37] <malik_> Admiral_Chicago: which one is better choice and more stable release edgy or dapper and what abt choosing ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> spitwise: s/knoxk/knock ;-)
[09:38] <spitwise> ;)
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> malik_: dapper, Kubuntu
[09:38] <spitwise> tnx but i was attached to knoxxoededtedted
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> dapper is a very stable release
[09:38] <spitwise> like gnome or kde?
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> !lts | malik_
[09:38] <ubotu> malik_: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> malik_: Kubuntu or Ubuntu is almost a religious question
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i can not use GNOME, i find it very hard to use
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> but othe people really like it, you can install it very easile
[09:39] <spitwise> then kubuntu
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> malik_: In this channel, hardly anyone will recommend Ubuntu, I guess...
[09:39] <spitwise> i dislike gnome as well but just personal reasons
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> and log into a gnome or kde session
[09:40] <spitwise> actually i used *box til a few weeks agos, and finally settled on kde
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> well good luck all, i have to go murder someone for waking me up
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[09:41] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 17 2006, 02:41:06
[09:41] <malik_> i personally like kde but it is goin bonkers in edgy these days..........some time when i start my comp display is gone back to 600X400 and i have to tweak with setting to get it back to larger display
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> first real sleep i get since finals start...
[09:41] <spitwise> thats midwest time
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> night
[09:42] <spitwise> hmm have had no probs with it sonce install
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Good night Admiral_Chicago!
[09:42] <spitwise> but 'm on ppc\
[09:42] <seven11> someone can help me with apache? on the network everybody can see my website but i have not found out how people can see the site from the internet because i have a dynamic ip
[09:43] <spitwise> :D
[09:43] <malik_> specially after the nvidia driver install..............n if i change users without logging out first the second ones display is most of the time 600X400 .........any idea whats causing it?
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> seven11: dyndns is your answer
[09:43] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: right.  now feisty will have libmtp 0.1.0, once imbrandon uploads it, or looks at it
[09:43] <seven11> ?
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> seven11: Don't ask me how it exactly works though
[09:44] <seven11> where?
[09:44] <spitwise> on what network seven11 ?
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> seven11: https://www.dyndns.com/
[09:45] <seven11> home network can see web by 192.168.1.2
[09:45] <spitwise> makes sense
[09:45] <spitwise> cuz it be local
[09:46] <seven11> ok next step would be outside world
[09:46] <spitwise> heh
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Nice... On the other hand, I think Kubuntu's Amarok comes without MTP support though
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> seven11: AFAIK you can use DynDNS to have a static IP assigned to your dynamic IP so the outside world can see what you got...
[09:47] <zch> hello guys, i have problems with installing kubuntu, can anyone help me out
[09:47] <seven11> or is there a better way to share folder with frinds
[09:47] <zch> i am using kubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[09:48] <zch> and problem is with usb keyboard
[09:48] <zch> i have only usb keyboard and after i select installing kubuntu, it fails to load usb drivers or something
[09:48] <spitwise> elobaorate?
[09:48] <zch> and i can't choose instalation language
[09:48] <zch> i tried tweaking the bios (i had legacy usb enabled) but it didn't worked when i disabled it
[09:49] <spitwise> MilhousePunkRock: either i'm drunk or they are ..
[09:50] <zch> any suggestions?
[09:50] <zch> apart from buying ps/2 keyboard that is
[09:50] <spitwise> so the keyborad *does* work?
[09:50] <seven11> MilhousePunkRock: all i need is a quick and easy way to share stuff with friends i thougt apache was the way to go but i am open for other ways
[09:50] <zch> it does work when i boot up
[09:51] <zch> i can select install kubuntu
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> seven11: You could tell them your currently assigned IP every time you are online, of course
[09:51] <zch> then when it gets to screen where i select installation lang
[09:51] <zch> it stops working
[09:51] <zch> it fails to load usb drivers or something, it gave me error message about failing to load usb
[09:51] <noiesmo> seven11, set up dns here http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/
[09:51] <seven11> MilhousePunkRock: no that doesnt work as well ???
[09:52] <noiesmo> seven11, set your router to foward port 80 to your webbox
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> spitwise: Now if you had an IBM ThinkPad (TM) you could turn on your ThinkLight (TM) ;-)
[09:52] <spitwise> seven11: if sharing between diff os's without the bs i use either apache, usb stick, or just good ol fashion ssh
[09:52] <seven11> port is forwarded
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> seven11: Then it might be a firewall problem?!?!
[09:52] <spitwise> MilhousePunkRock: if only ..
[09:53] <spitwise> shell accouts are still invaluable imho
[09:53] <seven11> ok quick and easy way to check your net ip?
[09:54] <noiesmo> seven11, http://whatismyipaddress.com/
[09:54] <seven11> no shell command?
[09:54] <spitwise> sudo ifconfig
[09:55] <spitwise> ^
[09:55] <seven11> no ifconfig will give me the ip behind the router
[09:55] <spitwise> pardon
[09:56] <d_ash> hi
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello d_ash
[09:58] <manuela> Is anybody there?
[09:58] <d_ash> Is there any chace that i can watch youtube on kubuntu amd64 without wine ?
[09:58] <spitwise> maybe
[09:58] <manuela> I have a problem with my DCOPserver
[09:59] <manuela> I can't log into one of my user names because something has been changed
[09:59] <d_ash> maybe ?
[09:59] <manuela> I am supposed to find the .DCOPserver file, but I hace no idea where to look
[09:59] <manuela> any ideas?
[10:00] <spitwise> manuela: the passwd?
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> d_ash: I can watch YouTube fine, but I am on x86...
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> d_ash: I guess it's a Flash issue
[10:00] <manuela> why do you need a password?
[10:01] <spitwise> youtube uses flash????
[10:01] <d_ash> i know it's a flash issue , can i use 32bit flash player ?
[10:01] <d_ash> how ?
[10:01] <spitwise> must dl it first in my experience
[10:02] <spitwise> then use player
[10:02] <d_ash> a standalone player ?
[10:02] <spitwise> and ask santa for source code
[10:03] <d_ash> :P
[10:03] <spitwise> :D
[10:03] <spitwise> no seriously
[10:03] <spitwise> i used to be a flash coder
[10:03] <manuela> does anybody know where the DCOPserver things are?
[10:03] <spitwise> pissed me off to no end
[10:04] <d_ash> why ?
[10:04] <d_ash> they look nice ?
[10:04] <spitwise> uhh bus me linus box can't read it
[10:05] <spitwise> ok as far as i know there only a standalone flash player
[10:05] <spitwise> no browser plugin
[10:05] <spitwise> at least for ppc
[10:05] <spitwise> and even that is buggy as shit and i blame macromedia
[10:06] <d_ash> :/ and amd64, there is for x86_64 ie intel
[10:06] <manuela> any ideas about DCOPserver
[10:08] <malik_> can any one help me getting my access back into user management deamon in system settings plzzzzzzzzzzzzz....i think i stuffed up big time
[10:09] <manuela> does anybody know where DCOPserver files are?
[10:10] <malik__> !pastebin
[10:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:11] <d_ash> i have .DCOPserver files in home/user directory
[10:11] <manuela> Maybe the problem is that i don't, not sure
[10:12] <malik__> how do i upload the screen snapshot?
[10:12] <d_ash> ... in konqueror view tab switch show hidden files you must :)
[10:12] <spitwise> !find
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <malik__> i can get into user management console.........can any one help?
[10:13] <noiesmo> !locate
[10:13] <ubotu> locate is a command-line utility, but to keep the cache up-to-date you will have to run: sudo updatedb
[10:13] <spitwise> :)
[10:13] <malik__> i CANT get into user management console.........can any one help?
[10:14] <spitwise> wtf
[10:14] <spitwise> calm down malik__ and stop yelling
[10:14] <spitwise> what are you wanting to do exactly?
[10:16] <spitwise> !slocate
[10:16] <ubotu> slocate: Secure replacement of findutil's locate. In component main, is extra. Version 3.1-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 152 kB
[10:17] <manuela> ok, I found the DCOPserver files, now I am supposed to copy it to the other user's home folder, but I don't have access
[10:17] <malik__> i had two users on my comp n i deleted one n ithink that was the main userr so now i cant get into user management console in the system settings
[10:18] <spitwise> you have root?
[10:18] <spitwise> or use sudo
[10:18] <malik__> i use suo
[10:18] <malik__> sudo*
[10:18] <spitwise> well shoudl work
[10:18] <manuela> so, I need to be in Konsole?
[10:18] <spitwise> yup
[10:18] <manuela> what is the command for copying in Konsole?
[10:19] <spitwise> sudo cp location/file destination/blah
[10:19] <manuela> thanks
[10:19] <tigris> hello
[10:19] <tigris> :-)
[10:19] <malik__> spitwise: so what do i do?
[10:20] <spitwise> sorry i got you an manuela  mixed
[10:20] <spitwise> what is it you want fo do?
[10:20] <manuela> ok, so I how do I find hidden files in Konsole?
[10:20] <spitwise> ls -la?
[10:20] <spitwise> ls -a
[10:21] <manuela> thanks
[10:21] <malik__> spitwise: i had two users on my comp n i deleted one n ithink that was the main userr so now i cant get into user management console in the system settings
[10:21] <spitwise> goog le is usually a better friend than i
[10:22] <spitwise> but if you can use root then you can add/delete
[10:22] <malik__> :) okie i ll try that then  i suppose or reinstall the damn thing again
[10:22] <spitwise> hmm
[10:22] <seven11> noiesmo: thanks for the link should work now
[10:23] <noiesmo> seven11, :)
[10:23] <manuela> my sudo password doesn't work in this user account, why not?
[10:23] <spitwise> user paaawd for sudo
[10:23] <spitwise> passwd
[10:23] <manuela> is it not the same for all?
[10:24] <MilhousePunkRock> manuela: Maybe the account is not in the sudoers/wheel/whateveritiscalledinkubuntu group?
[10:24] <spitwise> hehhhehe
[10:24] <manuela> Can I change that?
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> manuela: Yes, just add the user to the group
[10:25] <spitwise> is till havent quite figured why kubuntu set up user accounts this way
[10:25] <manuela> don't I have to be root to do that?
[10:25] <spitwise> yes
[10:25] <spitwise> hence sudo
[10:25] <tigris> for amarok to play MP3 files, what packages do i need to install?
[10:26] <spitwise> w32 or somesuch
[10:26] <manuela> my problem is that I can't be sudo in this account, and KDE doesn't function in my "root" account, which I why I am here asking all these questions
[10:26] <MilhousePunkRock> !multimedia
[10:26] <gnomefreak> manuela: you would have to log into the account with sudo rights to add this user to the groups
[10:26] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:26] <tigris> !mp3
[10:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:26] <spitwise> !universe
[10:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:27] <manuela> but I can't log into that account with sudo rights (at least not with KDE, only in a Konsole)
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> manuela: A shell is enough to add the other user to the group
[10:28] <spitwise> yes and is also kdw
[10:28] <spitwise> kde
[10:28] <manuela> ok
[10:28] <spitwise> sudo adduser
[10:28] <spitwise> of zo
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> spitwise: Isnt that for creating a new account?
[10:29] <spitwise> MilhousePunkRock: am fading
[10:29] <manuela> I just need to modify this account
[10:29] <spitwise> rapidly
[10:30] <spitwise> i keep getting his and man's q's mixed
[10:30] <manuela> I'm sorry for all the basic questions, but I'm new...
[10:31] <spitwise> sorry as well -- i'm new to kde
[10:31] <manuela> you're doing fine
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> manuela: Nevermind, that's what the channel is for
[10:31] <manuela> So how do I change my user in Konsole?
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> manuela: This might be helpful: http://www.ahinc.com/linux101/users.htm
[10:32] <manuela> I'll check it out
[10:34] <youser> anyone in here know what the service Auth is n my firestarter?
[10:35] <manuela> thanks Milhouse and SpitWise, I think it worked
[10:36] <youser> anyone here who knows a lot?
[10:38] <youser> someoneeeeee
[10:40] <youser> !auth
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <peter___> je tu niekto na pokec
[10:54] <zckckc> just to state that ya can't really ban me, i can join again and again and not mention that it was me, but since someone is having fun banning me, i will just give up and go to a normal support channel, feel free to reban me again you doofus
[10:54] <zckckc> zch out
[10:57] <christiane> Hello. Are there any packages for cinelerra available?
[10:59] <nuxil> hey everytime i log out of Kde i get this error.. http://pastebin.ca/282128
[10:59] <nuxil> how can  i get rid of it
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless
[11:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone around to help with my wireless problem?
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> btw, the bot links don't help
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !seen Jucato
[11:28] <ubotu> I last saw Jucato (n=jucato@58.69.27.227) 11h 22m 25s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[11:29] <stamen> hi
[11:29] <stamen> how to fix this
[11:29] <stamen> Loading RAID arrays fail
[11:30] <stamen> Loading RAID arrays ->fail
[11:30] <Alarm> hello. i got a kind of weird problem . i freshly installed kubuntu and tried to visit the following page:  http://people.icq.com/people/ . On the left side there is a "Search peopleby keyword. Under firefox that box is vissible. on konqueror nothing appears there. what could that be ?
[11:32] <stamen> Alarm: its not fully supported for some sites
[11:32] <stamen> thats why you can't see the box
[11:32] <Alarm> thats bad... means i have to install firefox as well
[11:32] <stamen> the sites are not written for full support for some of them
[11:33] <stamen> yes
[11:33] <stamen> I still use FF
[11:33] <stamen> and konq for file browse
[11:33] <Alarm> ok,. thanks
[11:33] <stamen> :)
[11:34] <MidMark> Hobbsee: please can you confirm this? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qt-x11-free/+bug/66905
[11:34] <MidMark> also I don't know the package is the right one
[11:38] <vado> Bonjour
[11:38] <paulcarpenter> hi
[11:38] <Alarm> whats the easiest way to install the latest java jdk ?
[11:39] <stamen> go to the java web site and download the sdk
[11:39] <stamen> jdk
[11:40] <stamen> after that install it, there are instructions how to do this
[11:40] <Alarm> i did. but unpacking the bin file and installing it, installs it to my homedir and not in the /usr dir , and i dont see any notes of how to install it there
[11:43] <dromer> aarg, I get this in konqueror with daap:/
[11:43] <dromer> protocal not supported
[11:46] <dromer> how can I make the protocol supported ?
[11:46] <dromer> er.. make it support the protocol :p
[11:47] <humphrey> i have green screen and stripes with feisty herd1 install(in setup xorg routine) nvidia 5200, i think there is a bug that says took vesa instead of nv or nvidia
[11:47] <anton> I've got a Problem starting Tibia.
[11:48] <dromer> I also have a problem detecting any daap-server with zeroconf
[11:50] <gatsby1984> humphrey: ubuntu+1
[11:50] <gatsby1984> err #ubuntu+1
[11:51] <chih> 
[11:54] <paulcarpenter> I'm trying to follow this here installation: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=48303
[11:54] <paulcarpenter> but apt-get tells me it can't find apt-build
[11:55] <paulcarpenter> should I be using something else?
[11:56] <paulcarpenter> or am I missing something?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> paulcarpenter: did you install apt-build?
[11:56] <paulcarpenter> no, because apt-get couldn't find it.
[11:57] <dromer> try synaptic? much easier to find packages
[11:57] <gnomefreak> paulcarpenter: enable the universe repos
[11:57] <paulcarpenter> in English?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> !info apt-build
[11:57] <ubotu> apt-build: frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 188 kB
[11:58] <gnomefreak> !universe | paulcarpenter
[11:58] <ubotu> paulcarpenter: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:58] <Hobbsee> MidMark: looking
[11:59] <dromer> so, I'm really having trouble getting my daap-server to be recognized by zeroconf, anyone any pointers ?
[11:59] <apokryphos> why do you want to run a daap server?
[11:59] <paulcarpenter> thanks
[12:00] <dromer> apokryphos: so I can share my music over the network ?
[12:00] <apokryphos> dromer: banshee has an inbuilt server+client
[12:00] <apokryphos> use that
[12:00] <dromer> we have a htpc in the livingroom now, and until I have a hd for it I want to share from my desktop
[12:00] <apokryphos> amarok support is being worked on for that
[12:00] <apokryphos> not sure what stage it's at
[12:01] <dromer> I don't want the server to be gui really
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: i think i got the problem
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> nidswrapper wasn't loading. it wasn't in /etc/modules
[12:01] <gnomefreak> what problem?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:01] <dromer> I also have mt-daap an my webserver, and that too doesn't get recognised by zeroconf
[12:01] <mike> ola
[12:01] <apokryphos> dromer: because you like the hassle? :P
[12:01] <dromer> and I don't really feel like using another client for playing
[12:02] <Admiral_Chicago> rebooting now, trying to it
[12:02] <apokryphos> well if you were going to only use it as a server, then no need to play anything with banshee
[12:02] <paulcarpenter> enabled the universe reposotory but apt-get still says it can't find apt-build
[12:02] <apokryphos> !info apt-build
[12:02] <ubotu> apt-build: frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 188 kB
[12:02] <apokryphos> paulcarpenter: either not enabled or sources not refreshed
[12:02] <dromer> in amarok I can add the dns for my webserver and it adds the daap-files, but if I use the dns of my desktop it doesn't work
[12:02] <Admiral_Chicago> or network manager
[12:03] <apokryphos> I see
[12:03] <paulcarpenter> thanks, how do I refresh sources?
[12:03] <apokryphos> paulcarpenter: adept -> refresh sources
[12:03] <apokryphos> or something similar
[12:03] <paulcarpenter> thanks gtg
[12:08] <xsacha> why does resizing a window take up 100% of my cpu?
[12:10] <Admiral_Chicago> ah going to try knetworkmanager
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> nope...
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> doesn't realize I have wireless devices, i think
[12:22] <_eMaX_> how can I reset my kwalletmanager password
[12:31] <ninHer> hi all
[12:34] <apokryphos> hi
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm can anyone help me get we wl0 port working
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> the system isn't configuring the wireless
[12:36] <Admiral_Chicago> even if i have the right driver running
[12:37] <Admiral_Chicago> oh! i think i got it
[12:44] <Agent_bob> why in the world does bitchx depned on      bitchx libmysqlclient15off mysql-common
[12:44] <Agent_bob> ?
[12:45] <Agent_bob> what does mysql and bitchx have to do with each other ?
[12:46] <Agent_bob> would you say i'm lagging ?  -:- BitchX: Join to #kubuntu was synched in 71.017 secs!!    71 seconds round trip...
[01:01] <lee_> hi
[01:03] <_eMaX_> anyone knows how to reset a kwalletmanager password?
[01:04] <Alarm> hello. i did download the latest jdk. and copied the bin file into the /usr/local and did run the ./jdk... command. (with root) the directory jdk16.0 was succesfully installed. but when i type java -version 1.4.2 is appeared . i guess the installation wasnt successful, what can be done ?
[01:04] <Alarm> i did follow the instractions from sun, but doesnt say much. just 1-2 things that i did follow
[01:05] <sredna> Hi
[01:05] <sredna> Why do I have a process /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher eating my CPU cycles all the time?
[01:07] <sredna> It seems to run every few seconds, I can't see that make any sense at all!
[01:10] <crube> I have an unused windows partition that I'd like to format, so can anyone give me a name of a program or something to do it with
[01:11] <fdoving> crube: qtparted
[01:11] <crube> Alright thank.
[01:18] <LeoAss> can however tell me how add nessus client??
[01:23] <LeoAss> ok thank evetyone
[01:23] <LeoAss> everyone
[01:23] <Agent_bob> !nessus
[01:23] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (edgy), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB
[01:24] <LeoAss> ok i know what is nessus but i don't add client
[01:24] <LeoAss> ?
[01:25] <LeoAss> what i must do??
[01:25] <Agent_bob> howto list all the switches/args that were passed to a module ?
[01:25] <LeoAss> yes
[01:25] <Agent_bob> !repos | LeoAss
[01:25] <ubotu> LeoAss: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:26] <Agent_bob> !adept | LeoAss
[01:26] <ubotu> LeoAss: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:27] <Agent_bob> s/In component main,/in repo main/  ^^^
[01:27] <LeoAss> ok thx but i want info how add nessus client?? I have nessus
[01:28] <Agent_bob> i gave you the info.
[01:28] <Agent_bob> go read the links.
[01:29] <Agent_bob> i'm being snotty.   don't have time to mess with you.    go read.  all you need is there.   it will do you more good the learn how to install packages, than for me to just say 'to install blah blah blah '    so go read.
[01:34] <LeoAss> Agreement has gotten
[01:35] <LeoAss> I do not ask as install nessusa but as make wanted for scanning client
[01:37] <xsacha> hey
[01:38] <xsacha> i have a problem installing kubuntu.. my keyboard types weird letters in
[01:38] <xsacha> i tried a few letters they did nothing.. then i pressed l and all these number '3's came up
[01:39] <xsacha> i cant install if my keyboard doesnt work ><
[01:42] <aristoteles> are there repositories to install openoffice2.1?
[01:42] <xsacha> my keyboard doesnt work at all, only Fn + letter and it doesnt output letter, just some random thing
[01:42] <Agent_bob> xsacha alt+SysRQ+R
[01:44] <xsacha> how do i do this on a laptop? alt+Fn+sysrq(delete key)+R didnt work and Fn+    alt+sysqr+R didnt work
[01:45] <Agent_bob> idk.
[01:45] <xsacha> i did alt+Fn and then while holding alt i did sysrq+R and it rebooted my computer
[01:46] <Agent_bob> if you get it to work it should say [17230601.352000]  SysRq : Keyboard mode set to XLATE
[01:46] <xsacha> well im in X so i dont think i'll see the output
[01:46] <Agent_bob> alt+SysRQ+N is reboot.
[01:47] <xsacha> definately didnt press n or b
[01:47] <Agent_bob> so find R
[01:47] <rcrook> if you have a Function key press it once
[01:47] <TehKewl1> is there an easy way to switch between a USB headset and my internal sound card?
[01:47] <xsacha> rcrook: Fn+    alt+sysqr+R didnt work
[01:47] <xsacha> (pressed one and then did combo)
[01:48] <Alarm> i just downloaded some cx88 chip drivers and want to install them. i found from the homepage : http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/build.html at the very bottom some instructions. are those instructions of how to install the drivers or am i looking somewhere completely wrong ?
[01:48] <xsacha> i would try: xev    but keyboard doesnt work
[01:49] <xsacha> (even after reboot)
[01:49] <xsacha> it's a live cd by the way
[01:49] <Agent_bob> can you drop to a console and test the keyboard there ?
[01:50] <Agent_bob> makes no diff.
[01:50] <xsacha> works fine in console
[01:50] <Agent_bob> then it's the xkeymap.
[01:50] <xsacha> ok
[01:50] <Agent_bob> and i'm lagging 30+ seconds.
[01:51] <xsacha> it's the xkeymap? how do i edit this?
[01:51] <Agent_bob> try a different one.
[01:51] <rcrook> xsacha: the stupid Microsoft wireless keyboard I have on my pc automatically starts in function mode... so to get it to normal keybraord mode I have to press the function lock key once after each reboot. Really peeves me.. stupid microsoft.
[01:52] <Agent_bob> menu system blah blah    or menu settings blah blah
[01:52] <xsacha> hmm after switching back to X after being in tty1, the keyboard works again
[01:52] <TehKewl1> lyke I can't see blah blah in menu system or menu settings
[01:52] <xsacha> but this problem happens every time i start this livecd :S (doesnt happen with other distros), i hope it doesnt happen when i install it
[01:53] <Agent_bob> xsacha you've found a bug.   :)
[01:53] <TehKewl1> I thought we were calling them easter eggs
[01:55] <ubuntu_> hi
[01:59] <xsacha> in the kubuntu installer it has this option to resize partition 1 and use the freed space.. is this wise if partition 1 is NTFS?
[01:59] <rcrook> no
[01:59] <xsacha> ok
[01:59] <Agent_bob> i need a cups config app   (gui would even work)
[02:00] <rcrook> sorry... ntfs requires some work to resize.
[02:00] <crube> if i want to have a second linux partition should i format it as ext2, ext3 or something else?
[02:00] <Agent_bob> xsacha only if you have nothing that you can't loose.
[02:00] <rcrook> ext3
[02:00] <crube> Ok
[02:00] <Agent_bob> ext2 or ext3 or something else... yes.
[02:01] <xsacha> not as ntfs ><
[02:01] <Agent_bob> reiserfs or xfs work also.
[02:01] <xsacha> by the way, i heard FUSE offers full write and read support for NTFS now?
[02:01] <rcrook> I need to start playing with xfs.. get some experience with it
[02:01] <Agent_bob> no nor vfat, if you what to have permissions bits
[02:01] <rcrook> havent play with it yet.
[02:02] <rcrook> hear its pretty god
[02:02] <rcrook> good
[02:02] <Agent_bob> xsacha has for some time.  but it's still a risk.
[02:02] <xsacha> k
[02:03] <Agent_bob> i obviously should not have ordered the meta package   gnome  ......
[02:04] <xsacha> hmm what's with the clock.. it randomly adds 2 hours to the time
[02:04] <Agent_bob> 14hour download ....
[02:05] <Agent_bob> "randomly adds 2 hours" <<< if it's a constant how can it be random ?
[02:05] <Agent_bob> ztconfig
[02:05] <xsacha> well some times it's 11 am, then it justs to 1pm
[02:05] <xsacha> jumps*
[02:05] <v3cc> salut :)
[02:06] <crube> Im having a little trouble with the scond partition. It says everywhere that it's mounted to media/hda2, but media/hda2 is still just a folder and moving files there just moves them around my first partition. I dont see mto able to mount my second part
[02:07] <xsacha> crube: do you see it in: df -h ?
[02:07] <ace> Hi all
[02:08] <crube> Nope
[02:08] <ace> i reformatted a partition and mounted it on /new, how do i give everyone write access to it?
[02:08] <ace> so that non root users can write to it
[02:08] <ace> i did it before but i can't remember how
[02:08] <hoody> hi there!
[02:08] <ace> chmod something?
[02:08] <ace> hi
[02:08] <Agent_bob> cat'less cat function: echo $(<file)
[02:08] <Agent_bob> crube   mount
[02:09] <hoody> how to change the brightness on a notebook with the fgrlxdriver?
[02:09] <Agent_bob> ace what fs ?
[02:09] <ace> ext3
[02:09] <ace> i can reformat it to whatever i want
[02:10] <ace> it used to be xfs and messed itself up somehow and i kept getting errors when the disk check was run on startup so i reformatted it as ext3
[02:10] <crube> Ok I think I got it now. I still had the old settings where it's mounted as ntfs
[02:10] <ace> but i do like how you can get xfs to defrag itself
[02:11] <rcrook> I could be wrong but I thought xfs doesnt require defrag
[02:11] <jessy_> hi all , is that possible to prevent kde from locking a user when you switch to another user ?
[02:11] <llutz> hi
[02:11] <ace> rcrook: try running bittorrent on it, then in a week check the amount of fragmentation
[02:12] <jessy_> switching user is very handy, but the locking isn't really necessary (when it's just a home computer)
[02:12] <rcrook> fair enough... as I said I havent played with it.. I am often wrong.:)
[02:13] <ace> so anyone know how i let everyone write to /new? i think i might have run something like chmod 777 * or something
[02:13] <jessy_> ace, yes it should be enough
[02:13] <ace> yup i got it
[02:14] <jessy_> ace, or rather : chmod -R 777 /new
[02:14] <ace> i did chmod 777 from within /new and it didn't seem to take any effect, but doing chmod 777 /new did it. to have done it
[02:14] <ace> jessy_: yup, thanks
[02:14] <jessy_> ace, that's it, the directory itself need to be chmoded
[02:15] <rcrook> sorry jessy_never used the switch user.. I always log in via x from another pc if I want to login as a different user
[02:15] <xsacha> got my laptop going @ 100% cpu usage and it isnt making a sound, hmm
[02:17] <jessy_> well too bad, switching user is very handy, but having to reenter the password makes it a bit heavy
[02:17] <rcrook> jeesy, you do know you can run multiple X servers on the one machine. Using different vtXs for them.
[02:17] <rcrook> jessy sorry
[02:17] <jessy_> that's what "switching user" with kde does in fact
[02:18] <xenol> can someone tell me if i can run OO 2.1 on dapper?
[02:18] <rcrook> cool.. :)
[02:18] <jessy_> rcrook, but it locks the current's user session so you have to enter your password again to unlock it afterward
[02:19] <jessy_> when you come back to it
[02:19] <jessy_> it's a bit annoying on a home computer
[02:19] <leila> !fr
[02:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:19] <rcrook> I can imagime.
[02:21] <rcrook> if I get some time I will have a squiz tomorrow..
[02:21] <rcrook> you dont have the screen save switched with lock? I know its probably a silly question.
[02:22] <jessy_> rcrook, when I have the screen saver, it doesn't ask me any password normally, only when I switch between users
[02:23] <rcrook> fair enough... as I said, a silly question/
[02:23] <rcrook> ok... silly here now, how do you switch user?
[02:24] <jessy_> in the kde main menu or in the menu when right clicking on the desktop, you should have switch user
[02:24] <ace> Its amazing how slow the system is when your copying files
[02:25] <rcrook> nope... mind you  I am logged in remotely..
[02:25] <jessy_> rcrook, ah so it probably doesn't make sense to switch user in your case
[02:25] <leila> hi, sorry to ask a perhaps very common question : what happens to plf server ( http://packages.freecontrib.org/ ) where i am used to get codecs ?
[02:25] <rcrook> my thoughts exactly.:)
[02:27] <rcrook> got an odd one for you all though... for some reason the screen saver is throwing my vt off vt7 on to some other one when it starts. This if course forces me to hit alt-f7 to get back to the screen. any thoughts?
[02:28] <xsacha> (II) Direction Rendering broken on XPRESS 200 and 200M.         grrrrr
[02:28] <xsacha> Direct*
[02:29] <jessy_> rcrook, no, but it sounds weird :)
[02:33] <apokryphos> leila: plf is old school
[02:33] <apokryphos> !pls
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <apokryphos> !plf
[02:33] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[02:35] <rcrook> jessy_: I havent investigated it proerly but I think it only happens when the kids run certain games. shrug, will look at it sooner or later.. LOL:)
[02:36] <doktor_> .
[02:36] <rcrook> ..
[02:37] <leila> apokryphos: i used http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/www/ and could get my codecs from medibuntu repository, thanks
[02:37] <apokryphos> why use that? The Seveas repo is good
[02:38] <leila> apokryphos: because it is what was written in : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/depots/plf/plf
[02:39] <oem> hi
[02:39] <apokryphos> leila: I have no idea what that is, but the Seveas repo is the most popular 3rd-party one
[02:39] <apokryphos> hi oem
[02:39] <Seveas> apokryphos, the repo seems harmless
[02:40] <Seveas> mostly a copy of plf
[02:40] <leila> thanks, i have to go ( my dog want to go out :-) )
[02:40] <apokryphos> and yet plf is old
[02:41] <apokryphos> well, it only contains a few things I see
[02:43] <christiane> My problem booting with cryptsetup: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/62751
[02:45] <jessy_> rcrook, by the way, how do you start a new session remotely ?
[02:46] <rcrook> I actually use cygwin from my lappy.. use X -query <hostname> :1
[02:46] <jessy_> ok, I suppose you have to configure X in a certain way on your linux server too ? to allow remote connections I mean ?
[02:46] <testsusf> hello im trying to figure out the script that checks the filesystem.. and im woundering.. what maked the files /fastboot and /forcefsck im currently looking at the checkfs.sh script in /etc/init.d/
[02:47] <rcrook> yup
[02:47] <rcrook> one sec
[02:48] <Fleebailey33> should kubuntu hang and take a while the first time it boots?
[02:49] <rcrook> jessy_: you need to enable Xdmcp on kdm to enable remote connection
[02:49] <rcrook> its not an Xserver setting as such
[02:49] <jessy_> rcrook, ah thanks, where do you configure this ? in /etc or is there a GUI interface ?
[02:49] <xenol> !restricted formats
[02:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:49] <rcrook> its in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[02:50] <testsusf> hey can anyone tell me what makes thouse files?
[02:50] <jessy_> rcrook, ok thanks , I'll try that then
[02:50] <rcrook> add
[02:50] <rcrook> [Xdmcp] 
[02:50] <rcrook> Enable=true
[02:50] <rcrook> to the ldmrc file
[02:51] <rcrook> kdmrc file sorry
[02:51] <testsusf> hmm hmm hmm
[02:51] <jessy_> and then you know how to restrict which ip can connect ?
[02:52] <rcrook> I know you can do it but as I am behind a firewall I havent set it up that way
[02:52] <rcrook> let me google for the setting for you... one sec
[02:52] <jessy_> true, actually I probably  won't need it either
[02:53] <jessy_> it's ok, I found it in Xaccess
[02:53] <testsusf> so can anyone help me?
[02:54] <rcrook> jessy_: if I remember corectly you can setup the security in the Xservers file in /etc/kde3/kdm/ directory
[02:54] <jessy_> rcrook, I found it , it's in Xaccess
[02:55] <jessy_> I'm gonna try it, so that may shut down my X server, thanks :)
[02:55] <rcrook> there ya go:)
[02:55] <rcrook> no problems
[02:55] <jessy_> good, you can reload kdm without killing X :)
[02:56] <rcrook> thats cool... didnt used to be that way.. LOL
[02:57] <jessy_> you just need to do /etc/init.d/kdm reload, it only reload the configuration file
[02:57] <rcrook> cool... will remember that:)
[02:58] <testsusf> Hey im trying to figure out the script that checks the filesystem.. and im woundering.. what Are | Makes the files /fastboot and /forcefsck im currently looking at the checkfs.sh script in /etc/init.d/
[02:59] <ace> I have come to the horrifying conclusion that my raid0 setup sucks, it isn't even able to play an mp3 without skipping, thats how bad it is, (i'm refilling the disks with data now from the backup)
[02:59] <testsusf> grep forcefsck /etc/init.d/* shows me
[02:59] <ace> i used to be able to play music and copy files ok before
[02:59] <testsusf> /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh
[02:59] <testsusf> /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh:
[03:03] <rcrook> well I have almost finished the two teddy bears I have been working on and it is 1AM here so I think I will start cleaning up my mess ..lol
[03:09] <rcrook> night all.
[03:09] <ace> and its still skipping :/
[03:09] <ace> night
[03:09] <ace> well its morning here
[03:09] <ace> remember, the number of hours of sleep is directly related to the performance of your brain's memory so sleep now!!!
[03:09] <testsusf> im trying to figure out the script that checks the filesystem.. and im woundering.. what Are | Makes the files /fastboot and /forcefsck im currently looking at the checkfs.sh script in /etc/init.d/ ????
[03:12] <malik_> i tried to install sun java 5 jre but its stuck on 25 n it does not give me anywhere to click to accept the license agreement n im stuck here so what do i do?
[03:13] <malik_> any one have any idea?
[03:13] <testsusf> tab
[03:14] <malik_> shud i press tab?
[03:17] <mardi_soir> HELLO
[03:17] <mardi_soir> i have a problem
[03:17] <mardi_soir> with kdm i can t make kdm display icons for each user
[03:18] <mardi_soir> i m on edgy kubuntu
[03:18] <mardi_soir> in kcontrol
[03:18] <mardi_soir> in the kde setup  tool
[03:19] <mardi_soir> some one here ?
[03:19] <mardi_soir> dead chan ?
[03:20] <leila> you still don't have explained your problem
[03:20] <mardi_soir> "i can t make kdm display icons for each user "
[03:21] <mardi_soir> i have de login text area but i would like pixmaps for users ..
[03:22] <mardi_soir> hummm when i remove the kdm wall paper in kcontrol it does not work ..
[03:22] <mindspin> how do I set my language (charset) on console (I did all I can in systemsettings ->regional settings) but I still have no german extra chars
[03:26] <malik__> hi there..........i installed java sun 5 .........do i need to change anything in order for it to take effect?......or its installed n up and running?
[03:26] <apokryphos> should be installed and running
[03:26] <apokryphos> just restart your browser to have it using the plugin
[03:27] <malik__> testsusf: thanx for the tab tip
[03:29] <malik__> apokryphos: ooh but i didnt install the browser plugin thingy i just installed sun java 5 jre package......... shud i install plugin too?........im not using ff tho only konqi is on my system
[03:29] <apokryphos> sure
[03:30] <esaym> im bored
[03:30] <esaym> give me something cool to do with kubuntu
[03:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy all! :)
[03:31] <apokryphos> install dolphin and filelight. Fun to play with
[03:31] <apokryphos> or a composite manager of course
[03:31] <esaym> hmm
[03:32] <apokryphos> well, dolphin and filelight are more interesting than fun. Dolphin might end up being the file manager in kde 4, and filleight is just convenient way of displaying where your data's going
[03:33] <csalsb> anybody out there that can help with getting vmware to run
[03:33] <esaym> http://www.methylblue.com/filelight/images/ ? looks different
[03:34] <csalsb> I got it installed and configured, but every time I start it it tells me that I need to run vmware-confil.pl
[03:34] <csalsb> over and over never starts
[03:35] <BluesKaj> ok, DVR crashes after I choose the source...
[03:37] <sredna> apokryphos: Really ?!
[03:37] <apokryphos> sredna: which part?
[03:37] <nano> hello
[03:37] <apokryphos> hi nano
[03:37] <sredna> apokryphos: Dolphin possibly ending up being the default file manager in kde4 ???
[03:37] <apokryphos> sredna: re: dolphin? Well, yeah, it might.
[03:38] <nano> ok i'm installing kubuntu from the livecd
[03:38] <sredna> Why?
[03:38] <apokryphos> there was a lot of talk about splitting konqueror file manager/web browser, and this is a file manager getting a lot of work on it...
[03:38] <apokryphos> I'm sure nothing's been decided yet
[03:38] <apokryphos> sredna: did you see ettrich's blog post on the pros of splitting it?
[03:38] <malik__> yeeeeee haaaaaaaa i got java applet dancing in my browser........thanks to testsusf and apokryphos........thanx guyz
[03:38] <apokryphos> cool :)
[03:38] <chudy_> Hejka!
[03:39] <chudy_> mam problem z kompilacja cedegi
[03:39] <chudy_> przy compiling wyskakuje mi error
[03:39] <malik__> im lovin this kubuntu thing..............i think i ll miss fedora bit less now
[03:39] <nano> is that normal to have a black screen from the livecd only ?
[03:39] <chudy_> http://wklej.org/id/c3f268ffd1
[03:39] <apokryphos> chudy_: what language is that? English only in here.
[03:39] <sredna> apokryphos: If it was recent, no. But I did notice discussion about that matter.
[03:39] <apokryphos> sredna: http://blogs.qtdeveloper.net/archives/2005/08/03/some-basic-thoughts-about-kde-4/
[03:39] <apokryphos> quite a few devs are working on dolphin now, but of course no official statements anywhere
[03:40] <chudy_> apokryphos:  polish
[03:40] <apokryphos> the qt4 port of dolphin is being mainly worked on
[03:40] <apokryphos> !pl
[03:40] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:40] <philipp__> how can I get root access on the konsole in ubuntu?
[03:40] <sredna> I think its sad. I like konqueror very much
[03:40] <chudy_> apokryphos:  sorry
[03:40] <nano> is that normal to have a black screen from the livecd only ?
[03:40] <apokryphos> sredna: quite a few disliked the idea (as you can see objections there). I did originally disagree, but I'm not entirely sure now.
[03:41] <apokryphos> seeing a zillion options in configure konqueror is a little off-putting
[03:41] <apokryphos> i.e. if you're looking for one specific thing
[03:41] <faeryNatsuki> hello
[03:41] <apokryphos> nano: when do you get the black screen?
[03:41] <apokryphos> hi faeryNatsuki
[03:42] <faeryNatsuki> somebody I have a problem with knotify, someone could help me?
[03:42] <nano> after I chose the keyboard layout
[03:42] <nano> five minutes no activity
[03:43] <faeryNatsuki> hi apokryphos
[03:43] <apokryphos> nano: odd
[03:43] <apokryphos> what if you choose another language there?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> ** WARNING *** : the driver doesn't provide a correct size for memory mapping. DVR tries to correct this error, but some strange things may happend, you are warned. Can't map memory for capture : Invalid argument
[03:43] <apokryphos> *layout
[03:44] <nano> apokryphos: same
[03:44] <apokryphos> it may be a good idea to file a bug report
[03:44] <apokryphos> a workaround might be installing the alternate CD
[03:44] <nano> how ?  what bug ?
[03:44] <nano> i need to download another cd ?
[03:45] <apokryphos> !bug
[03:45] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:45] <apokryphos> there is a text installation (the "Alternate CD") which may work
[03:47] <malik__> it may be that he has usb keyboard.......in the mornin some one was complaing abt the same thing too
[03:47] <nano> no I don't want a text installation
[03:47] <nano> I don't choose gnome because of that
[03:47] <philipp__> how can I become root under ubuntu?
[03:47] <llutz> sudo su
[03:47] <philipp__> I need root access at the konsole
[03:48] <computer> hi everyone
[03:48] <towync> i'm signed up on kopote with aim, but i can't activate my msn acct
[03:48] <sredna> apokryphos: I am one of the few that actually do manage my windows and configure my system, since that allows me to be more comfortable/efficient
[03:48] <towync> i can see my contact list but i don't know how to sign on
[03:48] <towync> anyone know?
[03:48] <towync> i remember i have to go somewhere, but forgot lol
[03:49] <apokryphos> llutz: please don't advise that, recommend the wiki page or sudo
[03:49] <apokryphos> !sudo | philipp__
[03:49] <ubotu> philipp__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:49] <llutz> apokryphos: ok, sry
[03:49] <apokryphos> sredna: you shouldn't have to though
[03:49] <apokryphos> I disagree with him about single-click, for sure 8)
[03:49] <sredna> apokryphos: Why not?
[03:49] <philipp__> thank you ubotu
[03:50] <apokryphos> single-click is good
[03:50] <towync> oo i wanna configure my desktop to look cool too =)
[03:50] <towync> ubotu is a bot
[03:50] <towync> right
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <sredna> apokryphos: My computer needs AI to learn to know my needs
[03:50] <faeryNatsuki> hey, somebody could help me with knotify?
[03:50] <apokryphos> !helpme
[03:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:51] <sredna> apokryphos: The best example of a system that works like suggested is mac osx, and even its often good, it is also often very frustrating
[03:51] <apokryphos> what do you think of dolphin?
[03:51] <apokryphos> I like a lot of the design ideas, and there are a few even nicer things in svn
[03:51] <apokryphos> (in the qt4 port, that is)
[03:51] <sredna> apokryphos: Nothing
[03:51] <mardi_soir> ubotu,  i did but now one answered .. so i found it alone ;..
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i did but now one answered .. so i found it alone ;.. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <faeryNatsuki> knotify does give me no sound in gnome or kde, i have to restart sound system manually, how can i make knotify works good?
[03:52] <towync> !knotify
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knotify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <sredna> I cant see it having any new ideas, but then I just looked at the screenshots
[03:52] <apokryphos> sredna: why
[03:52] <towync> what's knotify?
[03:52] <apokryphos> it's got a lot of new ideas, but you'd have to try it
[03:52] <apokryphos> sredna: it's in universe, install it.
[03:52] <apokryphos> !info dolphin
[03:52] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[03:53] <faeryNatsuki> knotify is the daemon that makes notifications and sound on events on kde applications
[03:53] <apokryphos> anyhow, I have to shoot for now.
[03:53] <towync> o cool
[03:53] <towync> do i neet install with adept or does it already come with edgy?
[03:53] <faeryNatsuki> i got this error  weeks ago "During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?" and i disabled the arts output :(
[03:53] <faeryNatsuki> i think this is the problem
[03:53] <sredna> For one thing, having to launch new apps everytime one clicks a file requires application startup times to drop drastically. I guess that is one of my main motives for preferring 'view in embedded viewer' as often as possible
[03:54] <towync> how do i add icq to kopotet?
[03:54] <towync> i already have aim on
[03:55] <towync> i can't get msn on
[03:55] <mardi_soir> why kmldonkey need mldonkey-server   ?
[03:55] <LjL> mardi_soir: because that's the program that actually does the work?
[03:55] <LjL> kmldonkey is a frontend
[03:55] <mardi_soir> ouch sorry i was using the stupid aptitude
[03:55] <mardi_soir> with apt-get no problem
[03:56] <mardi_soir> i use mldonkey on a remote machine
[03:56] <mardi_soir> no mldonkey server need on the local just the gui
[03:56] <mardi_soir> apt-get seems to be my friend aptitude not
[03:56] <LjL> mardi_soir: aptitude install Recommended packages by default, while apt-get by default does not
[03:57] <sredna> apokryphos: Apart from that I think I do about 90% of my file management in konsole
[03:57] <LjL> mardi_soir: you could just pass the "--without-recommends" (or "-R") option to aptitude to avoid that, i guess
[03:57] <mardi_soir> ok thank you
[03:57] <sredna> apokryphos: Which could be taken as a proof that konqueror is inefficient of course ;)
[03:58] <LjL> apokryphos: what ideas? it's a file manager, it just has a few features from konqueror cut out :-P plus a very original GNOME-like breadcrumb trail
[03:59] <thompa> anybody know how to check in firefox config for internet
[04:00] <thompa> may pages are loading way too slow
[04:00] <compilerwriter> sorry thompa I am at a loss here.
[04:00] <thompa> the same live cd is faster
[04:00] <thompa> what do i type in the firefox info bar (config:?)
[04:00] <sredna> Hm, it cant immediately open remote locations
[04:01] <towync> aarrrrgh
[04:01] <towync> could someone help me with kopete
[04:01] <towync> i can't click to sign on to msn
[04:01] <compilerwriter> Thompa that I think is about:config
[04:01] <towync> i don't know where to click
[04:01] <towync> aim is signed on in kopete already
[04:01] <compilerwriter> I will look at it towync.
[04:01] <compilerwriter> give me a second
[04:02] <thompa> compilerwriter: thanks, did you notice any change in firefox since an upgrade?
[04:02] <compilerwriter> No I haven't thompa
[04:02] <thompa> my computer runs better also when i switch to beryl
[04:03] <thompa> everything is faster
[04:03] <sredna> Ah, it can actually
[04:03] <thompa> except bzflag wont work well if beryl is running, no big deal
[04:03] <compilerwriter> When I just fired up kopete towync it asked me what I wanted to connect to.  Is this just the first time use wizard or do you get it all the time?
[04:04] <thompa> compilerwriter: i use konversation
[04:04] <compilerwriter> I use gaim.
[04:04] <thompa> me too for yahoo
[04:05] <compilerwriter> I am just trying to help towync get going with kopete.
[04:05] <compilerwriter> Kopete has yahoo thompa
[04:05] <thompa> compilerwriter: yes
[04:05] <BluesKaj> amsn works well too
[04:05] <compilerwriter> I am also using gaim for this irc chat.
[04:05] <faeryNatsuki> hello, what is the commmand to pen the  System Notifications control panel??
[04:05] <thompa> and aim, msn,
[04:05] <compilerwriter> and jabber
[04:05] <manchicken> gaim is no fun. ^_^
[04:06] <BluesKaj> konversation for irc
[04:06] <compilerwriter> towync are you still there
[04:06] <manchicken> kopete and konversation combo is the way to go man ^_^
[04:06] <thompa> im using konversation now here, i just tryed the mint linux
[04:06] <compilerwriter> The whole point is that I don't have to use two programs.
[04:06] <bunns>  Why both ? What is konversation for exactly ?
[04:06] <thompa> running it now in fact with kde, i still had to install real player manually
[04:07] <BluesKaj> not a kopete fan ...eye candyjust for the sake of it ... makes it silly to me
[04:07] <faeryNatsuki> what is konversation?
[04:07] <manchicken> compilerwriter: No, you're just using one crappy one.
[04:07] <thompa> also had to install flac stuff, i think
[04:07] <faeryNatsuki> i need to open the  System Notifications control panel, but i can't do it from men, i need to open it from comand line, what is the command?
[04:07] <manchicken> (kopete does IRC, too..  just not as well as konversation)
[04:08] <sredna> apokryphos: For one thing, dolphin feels faster than konqueror. How much is due to lack of features is hard for me to guess. But it does lack support for some of konquerors plugins/features
[04:08] <manchicken> faeryNatsuki: Why do you need to open it from the command line?  Are you scripting it?
[04:08] <thompa> http://konversation.kde.org/
[04:08] <BluesKaj> yeah , tried it manchicken...reminds me of the ICQ in the late 90s
[04:08] <manchicken> heh
[04:08] <compilerwriter> The one failing that gaim has in irc is that it won't highlight a message that contains my name.
[04:09] <compilerwriter> The Opera client does this and so does the Konversation client.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> yup, and that's important when waiting foranswers with 300 other ppl in the ch
[04:09] <manchicken> compilerwriter: You're not going to win me over to the gaim side of things.
[04:09] <manchicken> And opera should be avoided.
[04:09] <sredna> apokryphos: I'm not sure about the idea of the combined breadcrump/location field. That does not look like usability to me actually. I'm not sure I understand where the 'focus on usability' lies.
[04:09] <compilerwriter> Opera was a bit buggy on my last install
[04:09] <manchicken> konqueror is a better browser by far.
[04:09] <manchicken> opera is non-free.
[04:10] <compilerwriter> I really loved it in windows.
[04:10] <compilerwriter> Opera is free of cost.
[04:10] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, where's the torrent client reside in opera...couldn't locate it
[04:10] <faeryNatsuki> hey, does somebody know how to use kde control panels from gnome
[04:10] <manchicken> So?  It usurps your freedom.
[04:10] <manchicken> And should be avoided.
[04:10] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj it just is in the download bit.
[04:11] <compilerwriter> Opera recognizes the torrent file and handles it accordingly BluesKaj
[04:11] <manchicken> compilerwriter: So does konq.
[04:11] <BluesKaj> ok thx compilerwriter
[04:11] <compilerwriter> I am using firefox mostly.
[04:11] <computer> test
[04:12] <towync> hey compilerwriter
[04:12] <towync> thx so much sorry i froze earlier
[04:12] <towync> had to restart it
[04:12] <towync> i'm trying kopete again now =)
[04:12] <faeryNatsuki> ok, i discovered the command is kcontrol
[04:12] <compilerwriter> oh towync
[04:12] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is quite good now ...i dumped azureus cuz it would stall constantly...had all the ports etc setup prperly but it just stalled all the time
[04:12] <manchicken> faeryNatsuki: Why do you need the command?  Are you trying to script it?
[04:13] <xenol> !source-o-matic
[04:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[04:13] <towync> when i turn up kopete, all it does is display both the msn and aim buddy list, with both account signed off
[04:13] <towync> but on the aim icon at lower right hand corner
[04:13] <towync> i can click the icon, and then click online
[04:13] <towync> to get online aim
[04:13] <towync> but i can't seem to do the same for the msn icon that's next to the aim icon
[04:14] <faeryNatsuki> i knowe what my problem is
[04:14] <towync> when i click on the msn icon that's on the lower right hand corner next to aim icon, there's no option that i can choose to just get on line
[04:14] <manchicken> xenol: OpenOffice 2.0.4 is not available for Dapper by the way.
[04:14] <compilerwriter> Hm.
[04:14] <faeryNatsuki> help me please, don't ignore me :(
[04:14] <towync> there is like an "online" section, but when i point to it, it just displays away msg choices
[04:14] <compilerwriter> Let me try to configure kopete really quickly towync
[04:15] <faeryNatsuki> i need to make kde and gnome start kde sound system from start but i have to do it manually, a bad thing, how to solve it?
[04:16] <thompa> ipv changed in firefox for some reason, now my load time is about a sec down from 10 sec.
[04:16] <towyc> hey compilerwriter
[04:17] <towyc> i just got it done thx so much, i had to click no msg on the away msg options in order to get online
[04:17] <towyc> which is a weird way to log on msn
[04:17] <thompa> you need to have accounts for yahoo and msn or whaetver first
[04:17] <towyc> but it does log on
[04:17] <faeryNatsuki> ok, see ya
[04:17] <towyc> i was towync but i got disconnected for a sec from konversation again eralier
[04:18] <thompa> doeas nayone know how to change ipv value for konqueror?
[04:20] <thompa> nevermind i think i found it in network in kcontrol
[04:23] <utab_> how can I start my ssh server
[04:23] <utab_> sshd
[04:23] <utab_> actually
[04:23] <compilerwriter> towync are you here
[04:23] <RoKFiT> i think my audio kernel is bad
[04:23] <compilerwriter> towync I can use the little offline online thing you are talking about to take it offline, but to get back online I have to go to File > Set Status
[04:23] <RoKFiT> will there be an update
[04:24] <ollie> hi
[04:24] <ollie> im having trouble compiling
[04:24] <ollie> when i run configure it gives me an errot
[04:24] <ollie> and then make wont run afterwards
[04:25] <Tintin> adept fix crash | niels
[04:25] <ollie> checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[04:25] <ollie> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[04:25] <ollie> anyone know why this could be happening?
[04:25] <Tintin> adept fix crash
[04:26] <utab_> does anyone now how to start my ssh server sshd looks installed
[04:26] <Tintin> How do I unlock a locked dpkg database?
[04:26] <Tintin> adept crashed for me
[04:26] <fenerbache> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:27] <sredna> utab_:  /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:28] <Tintin> ubotu: adept fix crash
[04:28] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[04:28] <Tintin> ubotu:  fix crash dpkg
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix crash dpkg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[04:28] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:28] <ollie> checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[04:28] <ollie> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[04:29] <ollie> does anyone know why this may have happend?
[04:29] <LjL> !build-essential
[04:29] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:29] <LjL> ollie: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:29] <ollie> ah cool
[04:29] <ollie> not used to ubuntu...
[04:30] <ollie> glad its not hard to get stuff like this
[04:31] <ollie> thanks LjL
[04:32] <philipp__> hi guys, can one of you help me with the "testing" function in the monitor&display dialogue?
[04:32] <ollie> ah lovely, configure is running great
[04:32] <philipp__> everytime I press "testing", I get a grey screen
[04:32] <philipp__> (that might be the "testing" screen)
[04:32] <philipp__> but how do I get out of that grey testing environment
[04:32] <philipp__> ?
[04:34] <RoKFiT> does anyone know when there will be an alsa updated driver for sound?
[04:34] <RoKFiT> new alsa driver
[04:35] <bunns> whois rokfit
[04:35] <RoKFiT> me
[04:35] <bunns> lol...sorry
[04:35] <bunns> just trying out some commands...and forgot to put the / in
[04:36] <bunns> I'm new to irc....
[04:38] <RoKFiT> is the alsa package 1.0.13 or 1.0.14 available in our repositories?
[04:42] <Launchpadd> Does anyone here use VLC player in ubuntu 6.06?
[04:46] <ollie> hey
[04:46] <ollie> i get this problem now when making anything
[04:47] <ollie> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXtst
[04:47] <ollie> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[04:47] <ollie> make[2] : *** [libKXMouse.la]  Error 1
[04:47] <crimsun_> !find libxtst.a
[04:47] <ubotu> Package/file libxtst.a does not exist in edgy
[04:47] <crimsun_> well, you need libxtst-dev
[04:47] <ollie> lol
[04:47] <ollie> ok cheers
[04:47] <ollie> il try n get it
[04:48] <crimsun_> next time use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:48] <ollie> cheers
[04:48] <ollie> i just installed build essentials
[04:48] <ollie> so i assumed it would work after that
[04:48] <crimsun_> no
[04:50] <ollie> obviously i was wrong then ;)
[04:51] <Black5un> lol
[04:56] <xsacha> hey that not beign able to type anything until i switch vt's is happening again now (after ive installed it) :(
[04:56] <testsusf> how do i find out how many times a filesystem has been mounted?
[04:58] <CaBlGuY> anyone awake?
[04:59] <TheGateKeeper> CaBlGuY, nope
[04:59] <CaBlGuY> well, I need help installing a Lexmark printer dirvers..
[05:00] <testsusf> Lexmark support suks
[05:00] <CaBlGuY> no sheet...   tell me somethin I DON;T know..
[05:00] <CaBlGuY> :/
[05:00] <testsusf> you wount get it to work :P
[05:01] <CaBlGuY> so, basically, I gotta switch back over to winblowz if I wanna print somethin..   is what yur sayin..
[05:03] <kulbir> Is there any way i could executing this ("rtorrent torrent_name ") commands on system startup?
[05:04] <fdoving> CaBlGuY: check linuxprinting.org
[05:05] <TheGateKeeper> CaBlGuY, have you tried googling for: lexmark <model whatever> cups
[05:05] <malik__> CaBlGuY: i suppose u have already tried installing it through system settings?
[05:05] <kulbir> hello can one help me?
[05:06] <utab> how can I check the status of my ssh sever
[05:06] <TheGateKeeper> the good news is that you can probable buy a nice epson printer for the price of your lexmark replacement cartridges
[05:06] <malik__> CaBlGuY: what model is it?
[05:07] <towync> does anyone know why all my windows start by opening up on the lower left hand corner?
[05:07] <towync> and how do i fix that =)
[05:07] <towync> so windows start in center of screen
[05:08] <thrice`> utab, try to ssh into it ?
[05:08] <utab> thrice` you mean try to use the command
[05:08] <thrice`> utab, what do you want to know, if it's up?
[05:09] <utab> thrice` the actual problem is that I can not ssh from debian to kubuntu,
[05:09] <thrice`> utab, oh?  why's that
[05:09] <CaBlGuY> malik__:   It is a Z611 model
[05:09] <thrice`> is sshd running on the kubuntu box ?
[05:09] <utab> thrice` , from kubuntu to debian ok
[05:09] <utab> thrice` , I am looking for that
[05:10] <fdoving> kulbir: yes, from konsole run 'crontab -e' input something like: @reboot username command
[05:10] <utab> thrice`, how to check or activate that
[05:10] <malik__> towync:goto system settings n then into session manager n then select on start up new session n then start the new session n then put All the windows where u want n then select it back to restore session in session manager n restart the session again n hopefully it shud do the trick
[05:10] <fdoving> kulbir: actually, drop the 'username' field..
[05:10] <Zamber> whee is the konqueror option for hiding system files?
[05:10] <Zamber> where*'
[05:11] <fdoving> kulbir: it's just: @reboot command, for example '@reboot /usr/bin/rtorrent /my/file.torrent'
[05:11] <kulbir> fdoving: thanks
[05:11] <kulbir> good example . thanks :)
[05:11] <malik__> towyn: are u using kde?
[05:11] <thrice`> utab, do you have openssh-server installed ?
[05:11] <fdoving> kulbir: you might want to start taht inside a screen session though.
[05:11] <utab> thrice`, yes
[05:12] <fdoving> kulbir: for example: 'screen -S rtorrent /usr/bin/rtorrent my.torrent'
[05:12] <fdoving> kulbir: that way you can open a random terminal, like for example konsole.. and run 'screen -rd rtorrent', and rtorrent will appear.
[05:13] <fdoving> kulbir: the 'screen' command is in the package with the same name.
[05:13] <kulbir> fdoving: yeah i know :P
[05:13] <kulbir> fdoving: thanks
[05:13] <CaBlGuY> malik__:   ok, I found a driver, but it's a TAR.gz file.. and I dunno how to install those yet..
[05:13] <malik__> CaBlGuY: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Lexmark_Printers
[05:13] <malik__> thats the page which will give the instruction
[05:14] <malik__> right click the file n see if it gives the option of install as root
[05:14] <xsacha> apparently there's no open source driver for my wireless card, so i may have to use a windows driver with ndiswrapper? how do i go about doing this if i dont have windows
[05:14] <malik__> if u have got the drivcer already
[05:14] <CaBlGuY> hang on lemme DL it
[05:14] <xsacha> !ndiswrapper
[05:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:16] <utab> ping c140
[05:19] <utab> thrice`, are you there
[05:19] <utab> can somebody tell me how to check if my ssh server is up and runnning
[05:20] <llutz> utab: ps -e | grep ssh
[05:21] <CaBlGuY> ok malik__, I got the driver and unpacked it...  the file is ...  - sh z600cups-1.0-1.tar.gz.sh
[05:21] <utab> llutz what should i check on the output
[05:21] <llutz> utab: no output = no ssh running
[05:21] <utab> llutz :)
[05:22] <utab> llutz, actually I can not ssh from debian to my kubuntu box, but from kubuntu to debian allright
[05:23] <llutz> utab: but sshd is running on the kubuntu-box?
[05:23] <utab> llutz, I thought my sshd is not running
[05:23] <llutz> utab: check it
[05:23] <utab> llutz, sorry I do not know how to check that
[05:23] <llutz> utab: ps -e|grep sshd on kubuntu-box
[05:23] <snowrichard> hello
[05:24] <CaBlGuY> malik__:  U get that?/
[05:24] <utab> yes there is output for sshd
[05:24] <llutz> utab: my lines above were no joke :)
[05:24] <llutz> utab: so sshd runs
[05:24] <BluesKaj> DL'd some video in form of *.rar file ...I know in windows if on extracts the first file all others in the sequence will follow automatically and then one can burn the the files to disc with nero ...how is this accomplished in kubuntu ?
[05:25] <llutz> utab: if you try to connect to your kubuntu-box, any error-message?
[05:25] <A-L-A-R-M> where can i find codecs for avi files ? thought that mplayerhq had some, but need to install it and dont manage as it cant be found on any repo
[05:25] <utab> llutz, no  route to host port 22 error
[05:25] <CaBlGuY> !tell A-L-A-R-M win32
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell A-L-A-R-M win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <CaBlGuY> grrr
[05:26] <BluesKaj> !rar
[05:26] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:26] <CaBlGuY> !WMV
[05:26] <llutz> utab: does "ping <kubuntu-box>" work? from debian-box
[05:26] <malik__> CaBlGuY: yes......now if its tar.gz file then you have to run these commands
[05:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <utab> llutz, it either does not
[05:26] <CaBlGuY> ther ya go A-L-A-R-M
[05:26] <CaBlGuY> malik__:  ok..
[05:26] <utab> llutz, I can ping another computer on the network but kubuntu not
[05:26] <llutz> utab: ping <ip-of-kubuntu-box>
[05:26] <malik__> ./configure
[05:27] <malik__> then run make
[05:27] <malik__> n then make install
[05:27] <A-L-A-R-M> thanks
[05:27] <llutz> utab: sure that the network on kubuntu-box is set up right and running?
[05:27] <malik__> n hopefully it shud work fine for u
[05:27] <CaBlGuY> malik__:  ummmmmm  talkin above my head now..  I'm still a newB in Linux so, I have no clue about makin stuff..
[05:27] <utab> llutz, I can ssh debian and another linux server which we use
[05:28] <utab> llutz, other than that I can use network printer
[05:28] <malik__> u have to run all these commands from konsole
[05:28] <utab> llutz, I dont remember sth else
[05:28] <llutz> utab: "ping <ipadr-of-kubuntu-box>" works?
[05:28] <malik__> :) im a newb myself came to linux just few wks ago
[05:28] <utab> llutz, no
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> malik__:  ok, I know console..
[05:29] <llutz> utab: iptables or similar running?
[05:29] <utab> llutz, on kubuntu you mean
[05:29] <malik__> okie then run the commands in same order i told u
[05:29] <llutz> utab: yes
[05:29] <CaBlGuY> ok, I ran ./configure and it said no such file or directory
[05:30] <llutz> !paste
[05:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:30] <llutz> utab: can you plz paste the output of "ifconfig" from kubuntu-box there ^^ in paste
[05:30] <utab> llutz, can you tell me what to check for iptables
[05:31] <malik__> even better still here isd the link which will explain it to u jhow to do it exactly.............http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-applications/3680-tr-gz-file-help.html
[05:31] <CaBlGuY> K, reading..
[05:32] <malik__> CaBlGuY: check the above mentioned url it will tell u how to install tar.gz files
[05:32] <malik__> okie
[05:32] <malik__> sorry im a slow typer
[05:33] <malik__> but only post number one n two apply to u
[05:34] <malik__> of that page
[05:35] <CaBlGuY> malik__:  I'm reading and doing exactly like there sayin but it's still saying No such file or directory..
[05:35] <BluesKaj> !archive manager
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <malik__> where did u save that file?
[05:36] <BluesKaj> !archive
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <BluesKaj> !compress
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compress - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <utab> llutz, thanks it is ok now, I do not know the reason but strange,
[05:36] <malik__> u have to navigate to the directory in konsole mode where u saved that file n then execute that command
[05:36] <llutz> utab: xmas miracle ;)
[05:37] <LjL> !tar
[05:37] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[05:37] <utab> llutz, I am using feisty, so maybe that makes some problems
[05:37] <CaBlGuY> malik__:  yea, I knew that and I'm in the Dir..
[05:37] <malik__> u better put that files on ur desktop
[05:37] <utab> llutz, I have restarted and magic
[05:37] <llutz> utab: that might be a reason.
[05:38] <CaBlGuY> thanks LjL but, I already got the archive opened..
[05:38] <utab> llutz, I am still curious what was the problem but anyway
[05:38] <utab> llutz, merry xmas
[05:38] <malik__> HMMMM ............ im dumbfounded now..........i guess u might have to run those commands without unzipping it...........or may be after unzipping it.........try both methods
[05:39] <CaBlGuY> K, brb  again..
[05:39] <llutz> utab: Thank you, the same to you!
[05:40] <malik__> !pastebin
[05:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:41] <utab> top
[05:41] <rene> !de
[05:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:43] <CaBlGuY> malik__:  ok, new point..     this is the actual file that came in the archive...  z600cups-1.0-1.gz.sh
[05:44] <malik__> oki..............but the archive was in tar.gz format?
[05:44] <CaBlGuY> malik__:  yes'm
[05:47] <malik__> oki thats bit over my head now........try to msg Admiral_Chicago or a Jucato
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> OK, I gotta run but I'll bbl..   thanks anyway.. o/
[05:47] <Admiral_Chicago> no don't msg that guy, he does'n't know anything
[05:47] <Admiral_Chicago> malik__: who is this?
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> Oh wait!  :p
[05:48] <malik__> LOLz
[05:48] <CaBlGuY> Howdy Admiral_Chicago Tryin to install drivers for a Lexmark..
[05:48] <Admiral_Chicago> oh printing...
[05:48] <CaBlGuY> word..
[05:48] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm i can try, printing is always tough
[05:48] <malik__> he is trying to install a driver from tar.gz file n we cant figure out how to do it
[05:48] <CaBlGuY> Admiral_Chicago:  I got it unpacked already..
[05:49] <Admiral_Chicago> okay what kind of files do you have
[05:49] <CaBlGuY> z600cups-1.0-1.gz.sh<----  that's the main file
[05:49] <Admiral_Chicago> yea tha is a run file...
[05:49] <CaBlGuY> ok...
[05:49] <CaBlGuY> and what do I do with it
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> um i think you can you /,configure z600cups-1.0-1.gz.sh
[05:50] <CaBlGuY> just like that?
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> cd into the directory,
[05:50] <CaBlGuY> right..
[05:50] <towync> thx malkik_ sorry i was away earlier
[05:50] <CaBlGuY> but I mean, the command syntax.. it's correct..
[05:51] <Admiral_Chicago> it should be
[05:51] <CaBlGuY> K gimma a sec
[05:51] <towync> thx malik_ sorry i was away earlier
[05:51] <kilrae> i remember trying to set up that printer a few years ago
[05:51] <kilrae> took me hours
[05:51] <towync> =)
[05:51] <towync> i remember setting up wireless 2 weeks ago
[05:51] <towync> took me weeks =)
[05:51] <towync> lol hehe
[05:51] <Admiral_Chicago> http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[05:52] <Admiral_Chicago> that is a good page to look at as well
[05:52] <CaBlGuY> Ummmm  still says no such file.. bla bla bla..   and this is corect--->   /,configure z600cups-1.0-1.gz.sh    yes?
[05:52] <malik__> LOLz hehehe
[05:52] <CaBlGuY> yea, done tried that
[05:52] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[05:52] <towync> =)
[05:52] <kilrae> ./ not /,
[05:52] <CaBlGuY> k.  hang on again..
[05:52] <kilrae> dot slash
[05:52] <faeryNatsuki> hello, any k3b user here? i need to configure my k3b, i don't want it eject cd after burning and before verify, i need to keep tray inside
[05:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yea that may be it...
[05:52] <Admiral_Chicago> been up a wihle
[05:52] <CaBlGuY> nope
[05:53] <towync> malik_ actually i got stuck and was able to only see part of ur reply, what do i do after system settings?
[05:53] <malik__> towync:goto system settings n then into session manager n then select on start up new session n then start the new session n then put All the windows where u want n then select it back to restore session in session manager n restart the session again n hopefully it shud do the trick
[05:53] <towync> thx alot malik_ =)
[05:53] <CaBlGuY> so, whats next?
[05:54] <sinpath> need help installing java plug in for firefox oh eazy kunbunta
[05:54] <towync> o where's session manager
[05:54] <sinpath> on*
[05:54] <faeryNatsuki> hello, any k3b user here? i need to configure my k3b, i don't want it eject cd after burning and before verify, i need to keep tray inside
[05:54] <CaBlGuY> !tell sinpath java
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell sinpath java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> CaBlGuY: what kinda printer
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat | faeryNatsuki
[05:54] <ubotu> faeryNatsuki: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:54] <CaBlGuY> Admiral_Chicago:  it's Lexmark Z611
[05:54] <malik__> go to system settings and then click on the Advanced tab and it'sthere
[05:54] <towync> malik_ could u tell me where session manager is =)
[05:55] <Admiral_Chicago> !tell sinpath about java
[05:55] <towync> o cool thanks =)
[05:55] <sinpath> ty
[05:55] <kilrae> !tell kilrae about java
[05:55] <CaBlGuY> it's not actually java..  its jr somethin..
[05:55] <marcel__> excuse me, is someone from Poland ?
[05:55] <faeryNatsuki> ok Admiral_Chicago, but all the time is always the same, and i think my questions are not as weird to not have any solution known by people here
[05:55] <kilrae> hehe
[05:56] <Admiral_Chicago> faeryNatsuki: what do yoe mean "before vertify"
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> CaBlGuY: did you get the file from http://www.downloaddelivery.com/srfilecache/CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz.
[05:57] <faeryNatsuki> the k3b burns the media, then ejects the cd, close the tray again, and try to verify the disk, and it fails
[05:57] <CaBlGuY> Y ya curesin Java kilrae?
[05:58] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, I have never heard of that happen
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> Admiral_Chicago:  nope, that one didn't work..  I got it straight fomr the Lexmark sight..
[05:58] <Admiral_Chicago> it's definetly a bug
[05:58] <tenco> hi
[05:58] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe check LP
[05:58] <faeryNatsuki> because system (gnome or kde) makes the drive busy, and k3b "cannot" find what i burnt
[05:58] <malik__> faeryNatsuk: go to the settings menu, in K3b, and then Configure,and then Writing, and then Advanced and select your option
[05:58] <tenco> how can i configure which folder is used as my desktop-folder?
[05:58] <Admiral_Chicago> CaBlGuY: well i'm really tired, i'll have to bbl
[05:58] <faeryNatsuki> malik__: let me see
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> LOL   ok Admiral_Chicago thanks anyway..
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> im out..  bbl
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> o/
[05:59] <towync> malik_ on session manager i only have these sections: general, on login, default shutdown option, on login section i have 1. restore previous session 2. restore manually save session, and 3 start with an empty session, is one of these choices it?
[05:59] <b_> 3d desktop?
[05:59] <faeryNatsuki> malik__: is set to don't eject, but k3b does what he wants and does not obey that setting :(
[05:59] <malik__> bummer
[05:59] <wes_> anybody pretty handy with openoffice calc? i am trying to figure out how to do a simple formula.
[06:00] <wes_> the main thing i am not sure of is how to count a row number as a variable in the equation...and write a formula only for the column
[06:00] <faeryNatsuki> malik__: and off course thats a bad idea if you burn in a laptop
[06:00] <malik__> towync: yes
[06:00] <faeryNatsuki> because laptop burner cannot close itself
[06:01] <towync> malik_ which one should i pick?
[06:01] <towync> malik_ o is it the restore preivous session
[06:03] <marcel__pl> can anyone help me with K3b ? i have an error saying : Buffor timed out ...
[06:03] <malik__> towync: choose third and log out, and then log in and place your Windows where you want and choose first option and then log out and log in again. Hopefully that should do the trick
[06:04] <towync> o cool works, thx malik_
[06:04] <tenco> how can i configure which folder is used as my desktop-folder?
[06:04] <gianlux233> ciao ho un problema con la sorce list nn esite emule
[06:05] <towync> malik_ cool thx, i actually didn't get that far, all of a sudden everything started in middle =) not sure why but i'm not touching anything anymore hehehe, i think somewhere in the process something wonderful happened lol
[06:06] <malik__> LOLz
[06:06] <towync> hehe
[06:06] <malik__> cool man
[06:06] <towync> yup, thx =)
[06:06] <malik__> i'm a new bee myself mate
[06:07] <towync> cool =) learn as we go hehe
[06:07] <towync> i just started 2 weeks ago
[06:07] <malik__> came to Linux a few weeks ago myself
[06:07] <towync> when my windows crashed and my friend's cd's were all sp2
[06:07] <towync> nice =)
[06:07] <towync> is anyone else's application window starting up with a black background first only then to fill up with content like a second later? if so, how do i fix it =)
[06:08] <malik__> i'm sick and tired of windows too
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Linux Comercial : "Hay at least its not windows!"
[06:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:08] <towync> lol i'm actually not sick and tired, just wanted to play with new stuff =)
[06:08] <towync> i like their new slogan: clarity. i think that was it lol
[06:09] <malik__> fair enough mate. I gotta go
[06:09] <towync> cool, see you around =) thx
[06:09] <sinpath> hahaha funny dr willis
[06:09] <malik__> nightie night all....
[06:09] <towync> it's morning here
[06:09] <towync> are u in asia?
[06:09] <towync> or europe
[06:09] <towync> wait no, prolly asia hehe
[06:09] <malik__> europe
[06:09] <towync> o yeah i guess that makes sense
[06:09] <towync> it' 9 here
[06:09] <sinpath> us here
[06:10] <towync> 9am here so then east coast is 12 am, then cross atlantic ur prolly at 6pm?
[06:10] <sinpath> 12:10 pm
[06:10] <towync> i meant 12pm
[06:10] <RoKFiT> if I change my PCI Latency timer, do I need to reinstall the OS?
[06:10] <sinpath> lol
[06:10] <noxwayxhome> what is remote login about at the login screen
[06:10] <sinpath> out of my leage there
[06:10] <malik__> yup
[06:10] <towync> =)
[06:11] <RoKFiT> can anyone answer?
[06:11] <malik__> nice work mate
[06:11] <malik__> ok byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:11] <towync> i'm now gonna try go make my kubuntu desktop look like mac
[06:11] <towync> byez =)
[06:11] <sinpath> rokfit i have no clue but keep asking
[06:11] <RoKFiT> why keep asking?
[06:12] <towync> cuz more people come on and might see
[06:12] <Dr_willis> noxwayxhome,  thats the xdmp stuff. if you had 2 pc's  you could have the desktop 'running' on one, and showing on the local one.
[06:12] <towync> !test | what's this symbol
[06:12] <ubotu> what's this symbol: Failed.
[06:12] <menteck> Thanx
[06:12] <sinpath> well if some one see's it that knows they might answer
[06:12] <towync> !towync | /me
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about towync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <towync> !ubotu | /me
[06:12] <ubotu> /me: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Id just change the latency timer and see if it worked.. :)
[06:13] <Dr_willis> i cant see why a 'reinstall of the os' would be needed
[06:13] <towync> !ubotu | me
[06:13] <ubotu> me: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:13] <towync> what are the commands that usually go after |
[06:13] <rene> i got a soundcard prob
[06:13] <Dr_willis> !ubotu | towync
[06:13] <ubotu> towync: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:13] <towync> o
[06:14] <towync> thx | Dr_willis
[06:14] <Dr_willis> its just to attract a users nick/attention
[06:14] <towync> with ubotu right
[06:14] <sinpath> humm so you put the I & what ever to get info?
[06:14] <towync> a | b means attract b with a's answer?
[06:14] <rene> got a usb soundcard that is properly recognized. but i cannot direct the sound output to it, built-in speakers are lamentabley used instead.
[06:14] <towync> !sinpath | towync
[06:14] <Dr_willis> it just sticks b's nick at the front of the statement
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sinpath - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <towync> i see
[06:15] <towync> i meant
[06:15] <towync> i see | Dr_willis
[06:15] <rene> is there someone who knows about that problem?
[06:15] <towync> hurmmm, didn't work  =(
[06:15] <Dr_willis> rene,  id have to say check the wiki/forums.. proberly not a simple answer.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> towync,  you are failing to understand the basics...
[06:15] <Dr_willis> !botcommands
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botcommands - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <towync> o i c
[06:15] <LjL> !bot
[06:15] <towync> thx =)
[06:15] <sinpath> !towync | sinpath
[06:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about towync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <sinpath> ahaha nice
[06:16] <Dr_willis> is NO one noticing the------->  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots    part eh?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:16] <towync> lol hehe
[06:16] <b_> kubuntu 3d????  descktop?????????????
[06:17] <Dr_willis> b_,  care to ask an actuall question?
[06:17] <towync> u need beryl
[06:17] <sinpath> @.@ i read so much kabunta sites they start to make sence & then get me confused again
[06:17] <towync> !tell b_ beryl
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell b_ beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <towync> !tell b_ | beryl
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell b_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <slop> help - when my console beeps, my mp3 player stops playing and says "Failed To Open Sound Device"
[06:17] <slop> how do i fix this?
[06:17] <towync> grre, looks like i need to do more reading on that page
[06:18] <zorglu_> !sound | slop
[06:18] <ubotu> slop: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:18] <Dr_willis> slop,  you mean 'Konsole" or the consoles - you get to with alt-ctrl-F1 through F6?
[06:19] <slop> Dr_willis: i mean konsole
[06:19] <zorglu_> look like a oss conflict
[06:19] <slop> Dr_willis: i use mp3blaster, and when its playing, if konsole beeps, mp3blaster stops playing and gives me that error
[06:19] <zorglu_> aka 2 apps trying to use the sound and the driver saying 'only one is allowed'
[06:19] <slop> zorglu_: what can i do about it?
[06:19] <slop> <---- semi-new
[06:20] <zorglu_> slop: read the link i gave you :)
[06:20] <sinpath> hummm how long dose it usaly take to install mozilla/firefox java plug in on kunbunta?
[06:20] <slop> oh right :D
[06:20] <slop> sorry, missed that
[06:21] <towync> i already apt installed kwin-baghira, anyone know how i can start it?
[06:21] <sinpath> how long dose it usaly take to install mozilla/firefox java plug in on kunbunta??? i been waiting for ...10 minutes
[06:21] <sinpath> its still preparing
[06:21] <b_> thre dimensional desktop swicher for kubuntu?????????????
[06:22] <towync> b_ Use Beryl
[06:22] <zorglu_> b_: ask your question if you have one, and avoid the multiple ponctuation if possible
[06:22] <lakhia> sinpath:  what is your cpu load?
[06:22] <b_> k
[06:22] <towync> zorglu_ i already apt installed kwin-baghira, anyone know how i can start it?
[06:22] <towync> oops
[06:22] <towync> well i meant to ask everyone too hehe =
[06:22] <towync> =)*
[06:22] <sinpath> my cpu upload?
[06:23] <towync> !baghira
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <towync> !kwin-baghira
[06:23] <ubotu> kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7+cvs20060507-2 (edgy), package size 731 kB, installed size 2116 kB
[06:23] <lakhia> sinpath: if you type Ctlr + Esc, you'll get a process dialog
[06:23] <sinpath> lakhia i have no clue
[06:23] <slop> zorglu_: so do you think i should install dmix?
[06:23] <LjL> towync: you don't "start" it... just go to the Appearance settings, and select Baghira as your style and window decorations
[06:24] <zorglu_> slop: not sure, if i were you i would use alsa
[06:24] <towync> LjL cool thx
[06:24] <towync> LjL trying it out
[06:24] <zorglu_> slop: i dunno much about sound, i just know the page :)
[06:24] <slop> zorglu_: you mean change the hardware to alsa in kcontrol?
[06:24] <sinpath> lakhia were would i find the cpu upload info?
[06:24] <zorglu_> slop: yep change to alsa (this is not hardware btw, it is more the sound driver)
[06:25] <slop> zorglu_: i meant its inthe hardware tab :D
[06:25] <zorglu_> sinpath: type "uptime" in a console and look after 'load average'
[06:25] <zorglu_> slop: :)
[06:25] <LjL> towync: you can also start "bab" (not sure if it gets added to the menu) to get a quick-configure applet in the tray - though that's not really necessary
[06:26] <b_> best linux ?
[06:26] <sinpath> nothing shows
[06:26] <towync> LjL thx worked =)
[06:27] <zorglu_> b_: ? is it because you are unable to speak english ?
[06:27] <lakhia> sinpath: you don't see something like: up 2 days,  1:01,  1 user,  load average: 0.14, 0.05, 0.01
[06:27] <zorglu_> b_: i mean there are other channel with other languages if you want to ?
[06:27] <b_> k
[06:27] <sinpath> yes something like that
[06:27] <LjL> !ro
[06:27] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[06:28] <lakhia> sinpath: what are the last 3 numbes?
[06:28] <sinpath>  12:27:16 up  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 1.43, 0.74, 0.43
[06:28] <ufuntu> (!gr)
[06:28] <ufuntu> !gr
[06:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[06:28] <zorglu_>  1.43 <- sinpath this is a high load :)
[06:28] <sinpath> o.43
[06:28] <sinpath> so it will take a while
[06:28] <towync> LjL do u happen to know how i can make it so that double clicking the top of the window makes it so that the window becomes a bar?
[06:29] <towync> LjL instead of maximizing
[06:29] <LjL> towync: absolutely...
[06:29] <LjL> towync: don't remember how, but you can. one second
[06:29] <towync> LjL cool thx =)
[06:29] <xenol> !sk
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <xenol> !restricted formats
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:29] <sinpath> so how long will this take if its 1.43?
[06:30] <LjL> towync: System Settings / Window Behavior / Titlebar Actions
[06:30] <lakhia> sinpath: I haven't tried installing the java plugin ... but it should take 10 minutes to prepare a package
[06:30] <zorglu_> sinpath: the 1.43 is your current load, you cant estimate the total time from that, but if you waited 10min already it seems like 'way too much'
[06:30] <towync> LjL thx so much =)
[06:30] <lakhia> sinpath: i mean, shouldn't take 10 minutes
[06:31] <zorglu_> sinpath: what is you cpu/ram/disk ? do you have a very slow box ?
[06:31] <sinpath> so what should i do ?
[06:31] <ufuntu> hello!! does anybody know how can I add foreign language characters to wine?
[06:31] <sinpath> its still preparing
[06:31] <bernd> hi
[06:31] <zorglu_> sinpath: what is you cpu/ram/disk ? do you have a very slow box ?
[06:32] <sinpath> 256 ram cpu pen 3 disk 30g
[06:32] <bernd> what is wrong with this fstab entry?
[06:32] <bernd> UUID=68DC6AF8DC6ABFC4 /media/Windows-C ntfs-3g defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1
[06:33] <b_> #kubuntu-ro
[06:33] <zorglu_> sinpath: ok i think you got a ram+cpu problem
[06:33] <sinpath> gah whats the bad news?
[06:34] <zorglu_> sinpath: i mean the operation is rather slow on a 'normal' computer so a significantly slower one may take a lot more
[06:34] <zorglu_> sinpath: you just have to wait longer - as long as the disk or cpu are working, it is ok
[06:34] <lakhia> sinpath: is your harddrive being overworked?
[06:34] <sinpath> ah i see so i'll just have to wait it out?
[06:34] <sinpath> no
[06:34] <zorglu_> yes
[06:35] <sinpath> ty for telling me strate up lol
[06:36] <zorglu_> :)
[06:37] <sinpath> so how long would be to long?
[06:37] <b_> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/310289/xgl_linux_desktop/
[06:37] <BluesKaj> can anyone recommend an unrar/unzip utility that actually works , karchiver fails with rar'd files ..?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !rar
[06:37] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:38] <b_> help
[06:38] <b_> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/310289/xgl_linux_desktop/
[06:38] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[06:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:38] <zorglu_> sinpath: very hard to estimate... say in one hour...
[06:38] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  ive used winrar.exe with wine - in the past also.
[06:38] <BluesKaj> wine isn't working
[06:38] <sinpath> ok if in one hour its still "stuck" what should i do ?
[06:39] <zorglu_> sinpath: ask again
[06:39] <zorglu_> sinpath: i would say that with your box, aka a slow one by current standard, you should try xunbuntu
[06:39] <sinpath> if it should be still preparing in an hour what should i do about it
[06:39] <zorglu_> sinpath: it run better on slow box
[06:40] <loulou_> salut
[06:40] <b_> ty
[06:40] <b_> salut
[06:40] <zorglu_> !xubuntu
[06:40] <b_> #romania
[06:40] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[06:40] <loulou_> quelqun peut m'expliker coent instaler amsn ?
[06:40] <zorglu_> !fr
[06:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:40] <zorglu_> loulou_: le premier a plein de mon dessus
[06:40] <zorglu_> mon=monde
[06:41] <b_> #bucuresti
[06:41] <zorglu_> b_: /join #ubuntu-ro
[06:41] <zorglu_> b_: put a /join #balbalbal
[06:41] <zorglu_> b_: /join #buburesti for example
[06:42] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, I guess karchiver doesn't extract rar'd video files without a codec plugin ...right ?
[06:43] <loulou_> c koi la comman,de pour installer amsn ?
[06:43] <zorglu_> !fr | loulou_
[06:43] <ubotu> loulou_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:43] <BluesKaj> !fr
[06:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:43] <zorglu_> loulou_: this is a english speaking channel
[06:44] <BluesKaj> leauleau = waterwater
[06:44] <kaflan> what i shoud to do if i whant to switch betwen to languages, and wanna to use ma favorite alt+shift?
[06:45] <loulou_> what is the commande for install amsn ?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  codec? You need the rar/unrar binaries installed.. its just a front end to the command line tools.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> !find amsn
[06:46] <ubotu> Found: amsn
[06:46] <zorglu_> loulou_: "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[06:46] <zorglu_> !amsn
[06:46] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[06:46] <zorglu_> looks like a !info output :)
[06:46] <Dr_willis> !info amsn
[06:46] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[06:47] <ufuntu> tcl???
[06:47] <ufuntu> looooooooooooooooooooooooool
[06:47] <Dr_willis> tcl owns jouuu!
[06:48] <loulou_> and command for steam ?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Steam?
[06:48] <loulou_> counter strike
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Why do you think thee would be commands to install windows programs? :)
[06:49] <zorglu_> loulou_: why dont you ask on #ubuntu-fr, they are helpfull and use french ?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> look up 'wine' or 'cedega' and good luck. :)
[06:50] <zorglu_> #ubuntu-fr is nice people, dont be afraid :)
[06:52] <julle> i have a gfx problem. all of a sudden, all games started to lagg, but glxgears is not lagging. does anyone know what might have done this?
[06:57] <max_> can someone recommend a CD ripper
[06:58] <Dr_willis> dozens of them, out there max_
[06:58] <Dr_willis> I tend to use GRIP
[06:58] <max_> i downloaded that
[06:58] <max_> and when i clicked scan disk nothin happened
[06:58] <zorglu_> !k3b
[06:58] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[06:58] <zorglu_> this is another alternative
[06:58] <Dr_willis> learn how to use it.... or use some other program then.
[06:58] <max_> k3b only burns
[06:59] <Dr_willis> k3b is a burner front end.. correct..
[06:59] <eia768> anyone here had problems to upgrade from dapper?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> !cdrip
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <zorglu_> max_: sorry i misread
[06:59] <max_> no prob
[06:59] <eia768> Dr_willis  , corrent
[06:59] <eia768> Dr_willis  correct*
[07:00] <Dr_willis> grip, amarok, juke, proberly most of the big  media players can do it. I just use GRIP.
[07:00] <max_> amarok can do it?
[07:01] <kraut> moin
[07:02] <zorglu_> max_:
[07:02] <zorglu_> max_: amarok can do a lot :)
[07:02] <max_> where can you rip at?
[07:02] <eia768> amarok is the best music player ever
[07:02] <eia768> anyone here had problems to upgrade from dapper?
[07:03] <zorglu_> max_: i dont use this feature, maybe people on #amarok can help you on that
[07:04] <lakhia> eia768: when I upgraded, I got prompted if I wanted to install on a modified file. I had not modified this file. This is the most minor problem I encountered.
[07:04] <xenol> plz who can help me set up printer?
[07:04] <eia768> lakhia , u mean a conf file on /etc?
[07:05] <lakhia> eia768: unfortunately, I don't remember the file name or path
[07:06] <eia768> ok, thx anyway
[07:06] <lakhia> eia768: did you have problems?
[07:07] <lakhia> eia768: I should also mention that I didn't do anything on dapper. I simply installed and upgraded immediately
[07:07] <eia768> not yet... i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , and i am waiting it finish downloading the packages
[07:07] <xenol> !printer
[07:07] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:07] <eia768> !parallel
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <ace> Hi all
[07:07] <eia768> !music
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <ace> is it possible to set up a level 1 raid from an already running system?
[07:08] <xenol> if i restart kubuntu and turn my printer on will it be recognized?
[07:09] <ace> when i installed i installed ubuntu to hda2 and left hdc2 blank with nothing on it
[07:09] <eia768> xenol , u dont neet to restart
[07:09] <ace> they are both formatted as ext3
[07:09] <ace> so what do i do?
[07:09] <ace> can raid now be set up?
[07:10] <xenol> eia768  but idont see it in printers in system setting wait i try to print smth
[07:10] <eia768> there is a conf link somewhere
[07:11] <eia768> xenol, look at kde configurations --> printer
[07:11] <ubuntu> salut qq pouarit me donne un lien en francais svp merci
[07:11] <christiane> ace: yes, that's possible.
[07:11] <ricanelite> Can anyone help me get a HP Digital Camera M525 working on Ubuntu Edgy? When I connect my camera it comes up but when i try to upload the photos it says failed /camera?
[07:11] <ace> christiane: how do i do it?
[07:12] <xenol> eia768 when i want to print i get erro
[07:12] <xenol> error
[07:12] <eia768> xenol, my kde is in portuguese so i cant remenber the exact link in english, but u can conf u printer on kde
[07:13] <eia768> xenol, have u had a look on configuration before printing?
[07:13] <xenol> eia768 i know where to set but i get smth like "could not retrieve printer list. connection to cups server failed."
[07:13] <CoderX> join #xubuntu
[07:14] <eia768> is cups running? look at services on kde configurations
[07:14] <xenol> cupsd only
[07:14] <A-L-A-R-M> i tried to install some codecs to play avi files that use the xvid codec, by following the instructions of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats and  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278&highlight=wmv+codecs   , did create the /usr/lib/win32 directory, added the codecs from mplayer(hq) in there, also changed the settings of different media players to look for the codecs at this directory. but when i try to open the 
[07:14] <xenol> eia768 i only want ot know which local port to select should i choose the one with printer that shws me serial of printer?
[07:15] <eia768> so cups is working, u need to select u printer now
[07:16] <ace> christiane: so how do i do it?
[07:16] <eia768> xenol, open u browser http://localhost:631/
[07:17] <xenol> eia768 i am confused i have HP PSC 1610 it is normaly know as 1600 series but in selection menu i see PSC 1600 and also PSC 1600 hpijs which one to choose,
[07:17] <eia768> try one, if it does not work, try the other :-)
[07:17] <christiane> ace: Mmh, there was a good wiki entry somewhere but I can't find it now.
[07:18] <snowrichard> hpijs worked with my psc 1310 ok
[07:19] <xenol> :P do i need to be loged as root if i want to add printer?
[07:19] <eia768> i think so
[07:21] <xenol> eia768 plz answer in pm
[07:21] <eia768> i did it
[07:22] <xenol> didnt get :O
[07:22] <eia768> try the second option
[07:22] <xenol> ok
[07:24] <ubuntu> i speack not englich
[07:24] <LjL> !en
[07:24] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:25] <xenol> eia768 bah paper got stuck in while printing test page :/
[07:25] <eia768> lol
[07:25] <eia768> xenol, at least it is working :-)
[07:26] <ubuntu> thank you
[07:26] <eia768> ok, ubuntu you speak what?
[07:28] <BluesKaj> what's the right "unrar" command to extract files to folder using shell commands ?
[07:28] <ubuntu> french
[07:28] <eia768> unrar x file.rar
[07:29] <eia768> sorry, i thought was portuguese :-(
[07:29] <llutz> !fr | ubuntu
[07:29] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:29] <ubuntu> thanks
[07:30] <eia768> xenol, is it working?
[07:30] <xenol> eia768 accidentaly pluged off wrong cable :D
[07:30] <xenol> so my PC shut off xD
[07:30] <BluesKaj> eia768, what about a list of rar'd files that belong in a sequence like compressed video files ?
[07:30] <eia768> lol
[07:30] <A-L-A-R-M> under which directory can i find the file which includes the url with the repos ?
[07:30] <eia768> BluesKaj , supose u have the files: video.rar video.001 video.002
[07:30] <eia768> do:
[07:31] <eia768> BluesKaj  , unrar x video.rar
[07:31] <eia768> A-L-A-R-M  , /etc/apt/source.list i guess
[07:33] <A-L-A-R-M> found it thanks
[07:33] <snowrichard> later
[07:33] <xenol> eia768 i think i chose wrong type cause it get stuck in the middle of printing
[07:34] <eia768> try the other one now
[07:35] <xenol> eia768 on the other one i get unable to load driver WTF?
[07:35] <eia768> hummm... wait just a minute
[07:37] <xenol> eia768 got it :)
[07:37] <eia768> xenol, how?
[07:37] <xenol> i needed to choose first option
[07:38] <xenol> not the second one
[07:38] <xenol> weird
[07:38] <xenol> :/
[07:38] <eia768> hehehe, ok. that is kubuntu... works when u dont wait it will
[07:38] <eia768> supose * it will
[07:39] <xenol> eia768 wat is qouta and other options? can i leave em?
[07:39] <eia768> i dont know..maybe u can read cups manual
[07:40] <xenol> it says something like  that qouta limits r defined on a per-user base and is apllied to all users
[07:40] <xenol> i think i dont have to set there smth if i am single user?
[07:41] <eia768> yes
[07:41] <eia768> dont worry...be happy
[07:42] <xenol> eia768 thx
[07:43] <eia768> xenol, not a problem
[07:44] <eia768> omg this upgrade will take forever
[07:45] <xenol> wat upgrade?
[07:45] <anderson> hi people, my name is Anderson and I am new in the list
[07:45] <ricanelite> anyone here uses Opera?
[07:46] <anderson> i'm using the kubuntu 6.10
[07:46] <eia768> ricanelite  , i use it sometimes
[07:46] <eia768> xenol, from dapper to the newest release
[07:47] <eia768> hi anderson, diz cara
[07:47] <ricanelite> is it hard to install, I'm running Edgy
[07:47] <eia768> ricanelite , maybe---> sudo apt-get install opera
[07:47] <anderson> eia768: are you Brazilian?
[07:48] <eia768> yes
[07:48] <CaBlGuY> anyone open for helpin me with my printer.. :)
[07:48] <eia768> me me me
[07:48] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[07:48] <anderson> can we talk in portuguese or english?
[07:49] <xenol> wat is the best firewall for kubuntu?
[07:49] <CaBlGuY> xenol: don't need one unless your root account is open all the time
[07:49] <eia768> here they only speak in english, on my case... something that looks like english..LOL
[07:49] <eia768> xenol, u need one
[07:49] <A-L-A-R-M> A-L-A-R-M: for kubuntu 6.10 multiverse repo, do i have to add:deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse ?  there is a line with main restricted universe multiverse , but i dont know if its the same
[07:49] <anderson> ok
[07:49] <CaBlGuY> eia768:  u really wanna help..  and better yet, do ya know wht yur doin.. :p
[07:50] <CaBlGuY> eia768:  why u sayin u need one??  :/
[07:50] <anderson> so i'm getting some problems for watch a video of the type .ogg
[07:50] <eia768> CaBlGuY , ask xenol
[07:50] <llutz> xenol: make sure that no unwanted services are running, then you don't need those stuff
[07:50] <eia768> CaBlGuY , his printer is working now, right xenol?
[07:50] <llutz> xenol: otherwise: man iptables
[07:50] <anderson> the problem is:
[07:50] <CaBlGuY> as long as your root account is "safe" and you have a good pass on your account, you should be fine..
[07:50] <eia768> xenol, are u berind a router?
[07:51] <anderson> X Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) 11
[07:51] <xenol> eia768 it  is working and i am behind router
[07:51] <anderson> Major opcode:  140
[07:51] <xenol> i am part of LAN
[07:51] <anderson> Minor opcode:  19
[07:51] <angusprune> Hi, on Edgy I can't seem to share folders across the network - the dialogue is greyed out - can anyone help me please?
[07:51] <xenol> so i guess i dont need FW
[07:51] <anderson> Resource id:  0x0
[07:51] <eia768> xerror? anderson when ddid it happen
[07:51] <eia768> did*
[07:51] <CaBlGuY> mine is "connected"..  but if I send a print job, it says job-stopped
[07:51] <anderson> i don't have any idea about this
[07:52] <eia768> xenol, are u berind a router or bridge?
[07:52] <xenol> router
[07:52] <CaBlGuY> berind,.  :p
[07:52] <eia768> xenol, so u are ok... CaBlGuY  stop that sh*t i am not english native
[07:52] <eia768> lol
[07:52] <anderson> i just run the following command "kaffeine aKademy06-Accessibility_of_KDE4_Applications_-_Gunnar_Schmidt.ogg"
[07:53] <eia768> behind*
[07:53] <CaBlGuY> eia768:  yea.  so..   whats yur point.  :p
[07:53] <CaBlGuY> hmmmmm
[07:53] <eia768> anderson , only with kaffeine?
[07:53] <CaBlGuY> anderson:  what r u tryin to do?
[07:53] <eia768> CaBlGuY, have a look on cups server logs
[07:54] <CaBlGuY> eia768:  did that, next..
[07:54] <eia768> lol
[07:54] <eia768> CaBlGuY, no idea
[07:54] <anderson> no, all the programs
[07:54] <eia768> sorry
[07:54] <angusprune> hi, can anyone help me share folders when I'm getting the following screen appear greyed out?  http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png
[07:54] <CaBlGuY> anderson:  what r u rtyin to do?  Play a video file??
[07:55] <eia768> anderson, answer CaBlGuY  before he gets crazy
[07:55] <CaBlGuY> angusprune:  you need root privaliges..
[07:55] <RoKFiT> do i want APIC mode or PIC mode?
[07:55] <xenol> eia768 plz other thing look at that picture and see the bar between dekstops and clock u see it?
[07:55] <anderson> ok
[07:55] <CaBlGuY> RoKFiT:  I give up, which one..  :p
[07:56] <angusprune> Cableguy:  How do I do that?  Its not asking for my sudo password or anything.
[07:56] <eia768> xenol, what picture?
[07:56] <anderson> CaBlGuY: what is rtyin?
[07:56] <xenol>  http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png
[07:56] <CaBlGuY> angusprune:  if your comfortable with the Term, run the app using sudo..
[07:56] <RoKFiT> no, i mean which is better?
[07:56] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[07:57] <xenol> eia768 brb need to restart x
[07:57] <RoKFiT> which does linux like better
[07:57] <CaBlGuY> I was kiddin bye the way, have no clue what eather on eis..
[07:57] <CaBlGuY> anderson:  what EXACTLY are you trying to do?
[07:58] <xenol> eia768 saw it?
[07:58] <anderson> i just would like to watch a video with the format .ogg
[07:58] <eia768> anderson, please answer
[07:58] <CaBlGuY> OK..
[07:58] <CaBlGuY> now that we got THAT outa the way..
[07:59] <anderson> i clicked in the file and video doesn''t appear
[07:59] <angusprune> CaBlGuY: When I run sudo konqueror, and navigate to the same place, clicking 'configure file sharing' does nothing at all
[07:59] <CaBlGuY> first off..  do you have restricted dev's turned on?
[07:59] <eia768> xenol, what is the point?
[07:59] <anderson> i hear just the voice
[07:59] <anderson> of the person
[07:59] <CaBlGuY> angusprune:  sounds like you made need a re-install or there's a bug in the program or somethin..
[07:59] <xenol> he has them sorted that pne is under second i have them in a row how can i change it?
[08:00] <CaBlGuY> ok anderson have you got win32 codecs installed?
[08:00] <angusprune> CaBlGuY: This si on a fresh install, all I've done is update everything, then installed the restricted codecs
[08:00] <eia768> xenol, look at "view menu"
[08:00] <anderson> no
[08:00] <CaBlGuY> ok anderson install them..
[08:01] <anderson> i installed the theora
[08:01] <eia768> ogg is not restrict is it?
[08:01] <CaBlGuY> !tell anderson about WMF
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WMF - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <CaBlGuY> !WMF
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WMF - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <xenol> eia768 where is that plz?
[08:01] <CaBlGuY> DAMMIT
[08:01] <CaBlGuY> :/
[08:01] <CaBlGuY> !avi
[08:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:01] <CaBlGuY> THERE
[08:01] <anderson> it doen't run
[08:01] <eia768> on top, konqueror
[08:01] <Danker> Hi
[08:01] <eia768> on the menu
[08:02] <Danker> Could someone remind me what is the command for installing kernel modules?
[08:02] <CaBlGuY> anderson:  read the restricted formats wiki..
[08:02] <anderson> because i don't install the w32codec
[08:02] <anderson> ok
[08:02] <xenol> eia768 in which submenu?
[08:02] <CaBlGuY> angusprune:  ummmmm  I'm kinda lost on yours..  need to talk to someone more experienced..
[08:02] <anderson> i didn't install the w32codec
[08:03] <CaBlGuY> anderson:  READ
[08:03] <anderson> ok
[08:03] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[08:03] <eia768> xenol, i think i miss undertood something, can u ask it again ? and point me the problem, please?
[08:03] <CaBlGuY> yea, that'll work to..
[08:03] <CaBlGuY> :p
[08:03] <angusprune> CablGuy:Is there anyone around who I should try asking?  Or do I just ask the channel at large
[08:03] <transgress_> anyone know if there is a desktop-bar(gnome) alternative for kde?
[08:03] <transgress_> err deskbar
[08:04] <BluesKaj> angusprune, just ask ...period
[08:04] <xenol> eia768 u saw the bar between  the clock and dekstop at that pic? the bar where loaded apps r
[08:04] <CaBlGuY> angusprune:  just put it out in the channel OR you can ask in #Ubuntu as well.. somone may answer in there also.
[08:04] <eia768> ok
[08:04] <eia768> next
[08:04] <CaBlGuY> angusprune:  be SPECIFIC though..
[08:04] <CaBlGuY> please..
[08:04] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[08:04] <xenol> eia768 he had them sorted one under second u understand?
[08:04] <eia768> xenol, i saw it
[08:04] <BluesKaj> transgress_, do you mean panel ?
[08:05] <anderson> sorry, i just corrected the previous frase
[08:05] <CaBlGuY> now, anyone up for helpin me with my printer..  :)
[08:05] <xenol> eia768 i have them in a row how can i change it look?
[08:05] <xenol> so i have same as on that pic :p
[08:05] <eia768> yes, i dont use that kde version, but i think a right click can help u
[08:05] <jorge_> hola buenas tardes
[08:05] <BluesKaj> !es
[08:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:05] <ricanelite> does anyone here use MOL?
[08:05] <eia768> xenol, right click on painel, the lower bar i mean
[08:06] <eia768> buenas
[08:06] <jorge_> i sorry
[08:06] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj:  U know anything about printers..  and settin em up?
[08:06] <xenol> eia768 next?
[08:06] <eia768> xenol, just right click and have fun with the options
[08:07] <CaBlGuY> what the heck are we right clickin here..  like 20 times??
[08:07] <xenol> ok eia768 ty helped a lot :)
[08:07] <angusprune> Hi, On a fresh install of 6.10 (just applied updates and installed restricted codecs) I am trying to share a folder over the network.  When I click on 'Configure File Sharing' in folder properties the following dialogue appears http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png  If I try running 'Sudo Konqueror' clicking 'Configure File Sharing' it does nothing.  Can anyone help me?
[08:07] <angusprune> CaBlGuY:Anything I should be adding to that?
[08:07] <eia768> xenol, are u sure?
[08:07] <CaBlGuY> angusprune:  sounds good..  now sit back and wait.. :p
[08:08] <CaBlGuY> b sure u post it in the main chan too
[08:08] <angusprune> CablGuY: main chan?
[08:08] <CaBlGuY> yea..  #Ubuntu
[08:08] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, direct connected printer or network printer
[08:08] <BluesKaj> ?
[08:08] <xenol> eia768 yea i go to bed soon and will have quick look at it
[08:08] <angusprune> CablGuY:kk, thanks for yoru help
[08:08] <CaBlGuY> direct
[08:08] <CaBlGuY> np angusprune hope ya find your answer..  ;)
[08:09] <eia768> xenol, bed? where are u from?
[08:09] <eia768> japan?
[08:09] <anderson> CaBlGuY: Where can i find the restricted formats wiki?
[08:09] <CaBlGuY> !tell anderson about RestrictedFormats
[08:10] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, is it listed in sys/settings /printers ?
[08:10] <xenol> eia768 GMT+1 need to eat have a shower etc and mayb watch some TV :p
[08:10] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj:  yes sir/...
[08:10] <eia768> xenol, here is 16:10
[08:10] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, right click on the printer amd choose configure
[08:11] <CaBlGuY> ok..  next...
[08:11] <CaBlGuY> btw BluesKaj it's a Lexmark..  :p
[08:12] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj:  hang on..  does this mean anything....   Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed
[08:12] <BluesKaj> well that's a very popular brand , youshould have no trouble finding the drivers in the list
[08:12] <xenol> eia768 Bye
[08:13] <eia768> xenol, bye
[08:13] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:14] <CaBlGuY> Howdy
[08:14] <angusprune> Hi, On a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10 (just applied updates and installed restricted codecs) I am trying to share a folder over the network.  When I click on 'Configure File Sharing' in folder properties the following dialogue appears http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png  If I try running 'Sudo Konqueror' clicking 'Configure File Sharing' it does nothing.  Can anyone help me?
[08:14] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj:  there is a bunch of drivers listed but, mine is a Z611 and the only one I'm seeing close is a Z11
[08:16] <BluesKaj> do you see a Z600 series generic ?
[08:16] <angasule> I have a bunch of subtitles (so, text files) in ISO-8859-1 encoding which I need to change to UTF-8, how can I do that?
[08:16] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj:  nope..
[08:17] <BluesKaj> Z600 series then ?
[08:18] <CaBlGuY> no, no Z600 series at all..   just plain Z-- (watever)
[08:19] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj:  I do have the driver, I downloaded it form the Lexmark site but, I can't get it installed..
[08:21] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, here's a howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159704
[08:21] <CaBlGuY> K, reading..
[08:22] <crimson> when using the synaptic package manager to uninstall applications I don't want, I often get told that I must also remove another package called kubuntu desktop. When I have done this in the past, it has coincided with me needing to re-install the OS a day or two later. Are the two things related? and if so, how can i uninstall programs without having it revert my preferences or switching my desktop around?
[08:23] <BluesKaj> don't remove kubuntu desktop , crimson
[08:23] <crimson> it doesn't appear to be optional when i am uninstalling the native applications
[08:24] <BluesKaj> if you dont want apps use the, sudo apt-get remove "file"
[08:24] <crimson> if i did all the uninstalls, and then after that re-installed the individual kubuntu desktop package, would it not reek havoc?
[08:24] <crimson> cool
[08:25] <BluesKaj> it would prolly be back if it's part of the kde desktop pkg
[08:25] <crimson> if i just do the app name, will that command uninstall any related files, such as plugins?
[08:25] <BluesKaj> the best thing to do is just edit the app out of the kmenu
[08:25] <crimson> but that doesn't get it off my system
[08:26] <BluesKaj> no , but you do less damage that way
[08:26] <BluesKaj> unless yer starving for diskspace, of course
[08:27] <crimson> i'm not yet, but when the time comes I want to be prepared, plus I don't need multiple media players, irc clients, or browsers
[08:28] <crimson> and I am a bit of an organization hound
[08:29] <BluesKaj> usually associated plugins will be removed , but sometimes they have to be individually uninstalled
[08:29] <crimson> okay, i just tried the terminal command, and it is still requiring me to remove the kubuntu-desktop file in order to uninstall konversation
[08:30] <BluesKaj> well, don't do that
[08:30] <BluesKaj> konversation is actually very good
[08:30] <crimson> i prefer other clients
[08:39] <kilrae_> is it just me or are the window scaling cursors annoying
[08:40] <kilrae_> with the flat line and an arrow
[08:41] <foob> is the kubuntu dvd supposed to download slow on bittorrent? it's been going for 20 hours already at 30 kb/s. i have a cable modem. wondering if it's my settings or if this is normal
[08:41] <towync> hi, does anyone know how i can re enable resizing windows?
[08:41] <towync> i can't resize my windows anymore
[08:41] <towync> i remember changing something about border somewhere
[08:41] <towync> but that shouldn't have mattered right =( *sniff sniff* lol
[08:41] <towync> sucks =)
[08:42] <kilrae_> try settings, appearance, window decorations
[08:42] <kilrae_> that's where the border setting would be
[08:42] <BluesKaj> foob, that's pretty slow...maybe a site closer to your location would work better
[08:42] <kilrae_> unless you've got beryl or compiz installed
[08:43] <kilrae_> do you have a port forwarded to your computer for incoming connections? are you using ktorrent?
[08:43] <kilrae_> ktorrent, in my experience, takes a long time to get up to speed
[08:44] <crimson> azureus is where its at
[08:44] <kilrae_> i still end up using windows for my bit torrenting (because azureus is intolerably slow on this)
[08:44] <BluesKaj> azureus sucks on my setup
[08:44] <crimson> really?
[08:44] <BluesKaj> yup, ktorrent is much better
[08:45] <kilrae_> it might be because xgl is sucking all my memory and cpu power
[08:45] <crimson> i am port forwarded and i can get about 25 times better of a transfer rate on azureus than with other clients
[08:45] <kilrae_> i'm downloading with azureus on my laptop right now
[08:45] <BluesKaj> port forwarding didn't make any diff for me
[08:46] <crimson> i couldn't get ktorrent port forwarded, so i don't know how it reacts
[08:46] <crimson> but port forwarding brought me from 10-25 kbs to 250+
[08:46] <killermach> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a gateway laptop, Celeron 1.3Mhz 256MB RAM and I keep getting gdm failures
[08:47] <killermach> something about screens found but no usable modes
[08:47] <killermach> I would like to install xubuntu on it, but I"m unable to get into the installation process
[08:48] <killermach> I tried "ubuntu (graphics safe-mode) this didn't work either
[08:48] <killermach> anyone have any pointers??
[08:48] <anderson> CaBlGuY: i'm downloading the files necessary to watch the videos of the type .ogg
[08:49] <anderson> CaBlGuY: thanks by your help
[08:49] <anton> Is installing things with Aptitude always this slow, going @ 15 kB/s.
[08:50] <mauri> ciao
[08:55] <ArrAKeeN> iop
[08:55] <ubuntu> hello world..
[08:55] <fnord5> anybody have problems running WoW on edgy,useing wine?
[08:56] <sredna> What is the correct way to set the hostname in ubuntu?
[08:56] <BluesKaj> heh, wine is buggy on my setup
[08:57] <sredna> Hm, it is set
[08:57] <ubuntu> if you want to set the hostname on the comand line, I guess you could type ' hostname <new name>
[08:57] <sredna> Why isn't HOST set in ubuntu environment?
[08:58] <ubuntu> sredna, are you using a GUI or a command line???
[08:59] <sredna> ubuntu: I'm trying to run a script, but it fails due to shortcomings in the ubuntu environment, for example $HOST isn't set, but its expected to  be
[09:00] <oslo> i'd like make a live-cd (dvd ?) wich install my system the way he is actually; xorg.conf, fstab, sources.list, all apps installed and theirs config files & folders.... any ideas ?
[09:01] <ubuntu> have you checked to ensure you have permission to run the script??
[09:01] <sredna> DAMNED kde sucks
[09:01] <sredna> ubuntu: Yes, I have
[09:01] <ubuntu> hmmm, its hard to know what the problem is..
[09:02] <sredna> I'm not sure I care, because of konquerors BAD behavior when rightclicking
[09:02] <RoKFiT> can anyone tell me why amarok locks up with OSS sound enabled?
[09:02] <ubuntu> what type of error are you getting when you un your script to set the hostname?
[09:02] <sredna> It only shows a context menu in about 10% of cases, the rest of the time it does something unexpected or unwanted
[09:03] <sredna> ubuntu: When I run 'echo $HOST' I get nothing.
[09:03] <ubuntu> wait...
[09:03] <RoKFiT> I want OSS sound!
[09:04] <ubuntu> try  'hostname'
[09:05] <Dark> hi guys, I'm quite new to linux and have one question that is bothering me. when I need to switch to superuser in console, I just type su <enter> and then password for root. But when I need to run some program in su mode (synaptic for example) it wants the password for my ordinary account (not root) and does not accept password for root. can anyone explain why is this happening?
[09:05] <sredna> KDE SUDKS
[09:05] <sredna> Grrr
[09:05] <sredna> Let me do something else than trying to make this work
[09:05] <fnord5> i like kde
[09:05] <Adlai> Dark, things like synaptic use sudo
[09:05] <Adlai> try man sudo and read about it
[09:05] <sredna> fnord5: So do i, but sometimes it plainly does NOT WORK
[09:05] <eMaX_> anyone ever ripped a dvd w/ k9copy on kubuntu? I get 100 % system usage (wa%) after a short while and repeated messages like ata2 is slow to respond, please be patient in the system log
[09:06] <Dark> ok, thanks Adlai
[09:06] <ubuntu> sredna: just type 'hostname' and it will show you the hostname...
[09:06] <BluesKaj> eMaX_, yes i have success with k9copy
[09:07] <ubuntu> if you want to change the hostname, type 'hostname <newName>'
[09:07] <sredna> ubuntu: I know. But that does not make the variable set, and the script (part of the kim service menu for konqueror) expects it to be. So I either need to edit the script, or make sure my environment sets it
[09:07] <sredna> ubuntu: And frankly, I believe it's very common to have it set
[09:07] <ironfroggy_LT> anyone know how to see the ban list of a channel?
[09:08] <aleksanteri> hey 3 questions :P
[09:08] <aleksanteri> about xorg
[09:08] <fdoving> ironfroggy_LT: /mode #channel +b
[09:08] <aleksanteri> 1. how do i know what's the current version of XOrg?
[09:10] <fdoving> aleksanteri: current, as in the one you have installed? -> from konsole 'Xorg -version'
[09:13] <aleksanteri> ok ty
[09:17] <PatrickX> hi
[09:17] <aleksanteri> ok how can i upgrade to the latest version of xorg?
[09:18] <aleksanteri> :P i have been googling
[09:18] <aleksanteri> but can't find
[09:21] <faLUCE> Hi... I'm trying since some months to download mplayer, but if I use adept it says me that the package is broke
[09:21] <aleksanteri> ahh 'apt-get upgrade'
[09:22] <dope> why is my monitor at 50Hz instead of 60Hz?
[09:23] <aleksanteri> hmm 'apt-get upgrade xorg' doesn't work :|
[09:24] <pabloodissea__> I need Babylon Dictionary .dic for ktranslator!!!
[09:24] <crimsun_> upgrade doesn't accept package names.
[09:25] <aleksanteri> hmmmm
[09:26] <fdoving> sredna: $HOST is tcsh/zsh-ish. the bash-way is $HOSTNAME.
[09:26] <pabloodissea__> I need Babylon Dictionary .dic for ktranslator!!!
[09:26] <sredna> fdoving: Ah, there are more such stuff in this script, like it uses 'let'
[09:26] <sredna> So, buggy...
[09:27] <khirr> what is the command to copy one file?
[09:27] <fdoving> khirr: cp
[09:27] <khirr> thanks
[09:27] <pabloodissea__> please!!! give me a .dic!!!
[09:28] <ubuntu> How long does resizing take?
[09:28] <dope> how do i make my monitor work at 60Hz instead of 50Hz?
[09:28] <prak> quick question: i'm currently using kubuntu dapper; is it possible to upgrade it to edgy eft without loading it from a cd?
[09:29] <crimsun_> prak: over a net connection, yes
[09:29] <ubuntu> is there any way to see progress?
[09:29] <ubuntu> it's been an hour...
[09:29] <prak> how, crimsun?
[09:29] <rance> I need a suggestion for a k/ubuntu solution to a problem, the freebsd-games package has a util called "banner" which allows you to make "Happy Birthday" banners on continuous feed dot-matirx printiers, how do I do this in k/ubuntu
[09:30] <fenerbahche> prak: via adept, or command line, but i suggest you to follow official ways
[09:30] <ubuntu> .......
[09:30] <aleksanteri> pabloodissea__: http://ktranslator.sourceforge.net/dictionaries.html <-- over there
[09:30] <prak> i can't even find firefox on my systemright now
[09:32] <pabloodissea__> this link (sigh sigh) not... no .dic!!!
[09:33] <Dark> prak, you need to change "dapper" to "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:33] <Dark> then open console and
[09:33] <Dark> apt-get update
[09:33] <Dark> apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:33] <Dark> let me check on last one....
[09:33] <pabloodissea__> tnx... bur my life is closed...
[09:33] <pabloodissea__> .... forever...
[09:34] <xenol> can anyone tell me if OO 2.1 will run on dapper?
[09:34] <Dark> yeah, dist-upgrade...
[09:34] <xenol> ?
[09:34] <Dark> xenol answering to praks question :)
[09:36] <aleksanteri> any way to upgrade xorg?
[09:36] <aleksanteri> apt-get upgrade doesn't seem to work :(
[09:36] <aleksanteri> :|
[09:36] <Dark> that's only for distro :)
[09:36] <Dark> got synaptic?
[09:36] <aleksanteri> what's that?
[09:36] <Dark> packet manager
[09:37] <Dark> like adept
[09:37] <aleksanteri> hmmm
[09:37] <xenol> dark do u know if openoffice 2.1 will run on dapper,
[09:37] <Dark> yeah it should
[09:37] <aleksanteri> apparently i don
[09:37] <aleksanteri> t
[09:37] <aleksanteri> don't *
[09:37] <Adlai> Dark, *package
[09:38] <Adlai> =P
[09:38] <Dark> aleksanteri how do you install software? :)
[09:38] <aleksanteri> because i ran apt-get install on it and it started installing it :D
[09:38] <prak> dark, in sources.list, change all the "dapper"s to "edgy"?
[09:38] <Dark> Adlai yeah, correct :P
[09:38] <Dark> yes prak
[09:38] <aleksanteri> ye i know how to use apt-get and aptitude
[09:38] <Dark> aok, apt-get synaptic then :)
[09:38] <Dark> apt-get install synaptic
[09:39] <aleksanteri> i just installed it =P
[09:39] <Dark> hehe
[09:39] <Dark> run synaptic, push reload
[09:39] <xenol> dark do u know about if open office 2.1 will run on dapper?
[09:39] <aleksanteri> (synaptic:5840): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:40] <Dark> running it in su mode?
[09:40] <aleksanteri> ye
[09:40] <Dark> xenol, yes it should run
[09:40] <cloakable> aleksanteri: You running as root, or with sudo synaptic?
[09:40] <aleksanteri> using the su mode of konsole
[09:40] <Dark> aleksanteri try alt+F2 kdesu synaptic
[09:41] <aleksanteri> works :D
[09:41] <Dark> ;)
[09:42] <aleksanteri> and? :P
[09:42] <Dark> look at upgradable installations :)
[09:42] <Dark> then makr all updates
[09:42] <Dark> apply
[09:43] <Dark> mark*
[09:43] <aleksanteri> 0 installable or upgradable :| in the status bar
[09:44] <Dark> show me contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:44] <aleksanteri> i have fixed it long ago
[09:44] <animimotus> hi
[09:45] <animimotus> does exist a deb for KscannerButtons ? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44845
[09:45] <Dark> aleksanteri, it might need updating :)
[09:45] <aleksanteri> no every url is unchecked
[09:45] <aleksanteri> uncommented*
[09:45] <Dark> well, depends on what url s you got there
[09:46] <aleksanteri> o
[09:46] <Dark> you using dapper or edgy?
[09:47] <aleksanteri> dapper
[09:47] <Dark> one way to update xorg is to upgrade distro to edgy
[09:48] <aleksanteri> ic
[09:48] <Dark> other way is to download xorg source and try to compile yourself :)
[09:48] <aleksanteri> :P
[09:48] <Bubba_Gump> edgy is working quite sweetly now :)
[09:48] <Adlai> there really should be a way to just install the newer xorg
[09:48] <Dark> it seems you got latest version of xorg for dapper
[09:48] <Bubba_Gump> a bit of teething, but now it's very nifty
[09:48] <Adlai> it's got to be in one of the repositories
[09:49] <deus> is this a good place for kubuntu help?
[09:49] <Dark> quite ;)
[09:49] <deus> oh good
[09:49] <aleksanteri> i think so
[09:49] <aleksanteri> :D
[09:49] <deus> I downloaded kubuntu 6.10 and burned it to CD
[09:50] <kilrae> half the battle, that
[09:50] <deus> It loads up the boot screen, and then I tell it to boot
[09:50] <deus> It has a progress bar that moves around for awhile, but then it hangs
[09:50] <deus> I checked the md5 sums and everything
[09:51] <Dark> what OS are you ising now?
[09:51] <deus> I burned it twice...
[09:51] <Dark> using*
[09:51] <Adlai> deus, it might just take a long time
[09:51] <deus> simplyMEPIS, but windows is also still on there
[09:51] <Adlai> tell it to boot and then walk away, make yourself a sandwich or something
[09:51] <Adlai> come back and if it's still not up, something's wrong
[09:51] <Dark> :D
[09:52] <costa> DS
[09:52] <deus> are you serious? how long should I wait
[09:52] <Adlai> dunno, that's why I said make a sandwich
[09:52] <aleksanteri> :P
[09:52] <kilrae> it took something like 10 minutes on my computer when i installed edgy the other day
[09:52] <Adlai> distract yourself for a bit and it won't seem so long
[09:52] <kilrae> i was angry
[09:52] <deus> It booting a liveCD, right?
[09:52] <aleksanteri> kilrae: ic :P
[09:52] <kilrae> dapper took like 45 seconds
[09:52] <dope> what's the package that has all the codecs?
[09:52] <aleksanteri> O_o
[09:53] <Adlai> dope, codecs for what
[09:53] <Adlai> video?
[09:53] <Dark> video :)
[09:53] <dope> videos
[09:53] <Adlai> mplayer....
[09:53] <dope> so i can watch porn
[09:53] <Dark> something with 32 in it's name :D
[09:53] <Adlai> also w32codecs
[09:53] <dope> cause right now i got no porn watching going
[09:53] <Dark> yeyeye, that one
[09:53] <dope> w32codecs?
[09:53] <kilrae> kubuntu is free as in freedom, therefore you aren't allowed to watch videos
[09:53] <Adlai> yes
[09:53] <aleksanteri> deus: ya :P, then click on install
[09:53] <Dark> yep
[09:53] <Dark> lol
[09:53] <deus> Id like to find out if it will boot up my stuff correctly, and if it has some of the software install that Id like
[09:53] <deus> okay
[09:54] <dope> ok didn't find that
[09:54] <Dark> deus, so you downloaded live cd or installation one?
[09:54] <Dark> no repositories that means :)
[09:54] <dope> the live cd is the install disk
[09:54] <Dark> no it's not :)
[09:54] <deus> Not sure, the website didnt have any information
[09:54] <menteck> where can i get 3D Blender from
[09:54] <dope> you sure?
[09:54] <Dark> of course :)
[09:54] <cloakable> :( ubotu is gon.
[09:54] <dope> i just installed kubuntu with the live cd
[09:54] <cloakable> *gone.
[09:55] <menteck> !3D blender
[09:55] <Bubba_Gump> Dark: the live cd is the install cd
[09:55] <dope> i just said that
[09:55] <Dark> O.o
[09:55] <mats> i hope Seveas gor somekind of a backup for his database!
[09:55] <Bubba_Gump> Dark: have you downloaded the correct one
[09:55] <Bubba_Gump> ?
[09:55] <mats> s/gor/got/
[09:55] <dope> there should be an icon on the desktop that says "install"
[09:55] <Dark> live cd is to run OS from a cd
[09:55] <Bubba_Gump> yes
[09:55] <deus> is there a install CD that is not a liveCD?
[09:55] <Dark> without copying files to hdd
[09:55] <Bubba_Gump> and install it, too
[09:55] <Dark> or am I missing something?
[09:55] <dope> when you boot the live cd you'll see an icon on the desktop that says "install"
[09:55] <menteck> is there a package for 3d blender
[09:55] <SNAKE> how much ram i need to run kubuntu whith 3d blender?
[09:55] <Bubba_Gump> it runs the OS from the CD yes
[09:56] <mats> Dark: its both ;)
[09:56] <Sanne> menteck: Blender should be in the repositories, or for the latest version you can download from blender.org and just unzip to a directory and start.
[09:56] <Bubba_Gump> and if you look
[09:56] <Bubba_Gump> at the desktop
[09:56] <Dark> ooo I see :)
[09:56] <dope> Dark: you click the install button and it installs kubuntu from the live cd
[09:56] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[09:56] <menteck> thank you
[09:56] <Dark> heheh
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3D blender - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <Dark> sorry for that :P
[09:56] <mats> 'install kubuntu' or somethink
[09:56] <Bubba_Gump> easily done :)
[09:56] <Sanne> menteck: to check which repository blender is in, you can search on packages.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <matthew> deus, yes, use the alternate install. It will boot into runlevel2 and you can install from there
[09:57] <deus> what If i want to try it first?
[09:57] <Sanne> menteck: edgy has the latest blender 2.42a
[09:57] <matthew> deus, ummm, I don't understand what you mean.
[09:57] <deus> runlevel 2 is text based, isnt it?
[09:57] <mats> deus: thats what you are doing - and if you want it. Click on the install on your desktop
[09:57] <dope> someone help me change my refresh rate from 50Hz to 60Hz
[09:57] <Dark> good job lol
[09:57] <aleksanteri> :P
[09:57] <mats> aleksanteri: ;-) nice
[09:58] <Dark> don't forget to back up your data aleksanteri
[09:58] <deus> well, Id like to see the desktop first, find out if it will load up my tvcard the easy way, that kinda thing
[09:58] <aleksanteri> http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html <-- good how-to :)
[09:58] <Dark> dist upgrades are not always smooth :)
[09:58] <mats> hehe - no ;)
[09:58] <aleksanteri> Dark: ? oh
[09:58] <menteck> what dos it mean when it say break install
[09:59] <aleksanteri> oh god i have lots to pack itc
[09:59] <scherfa> Anyone else has problems with the swap partition today ?
[09:59] <mats> what problem?
[09:59] <Dark> aleksanteri, just a precaution. I had to browse with w3m and aptitude to run xserver. It would not start after upgrade :)
[10:00] <aleksanteri> ok
[10:00] <scherfa> My swap partition wasn't mounted on startup --
[10:00] <menteck> him i had that problem yesterday
[10:00] <aleksanteri> good thing that i own a usb memory stick :)
[10:01] <aleksanteri> an*
[10:01] <menteck> i reset my computer an it fixed its self
[10:01] <scherfa> ok
[10:02] <menteck> what dos it mean when adept manager says intall break
[10:02] <Dark> that you need to reinstall that package
[10:03] <aleksanteri> hmmm i have no time for precautions tho :P , i'll just get those most important things
[10:03] <animimotus> :
[10:03] <Dark> and (imho) use synaptic
[10:03] <menteck> but i am trying to get it off the internet and it is saying thaat
[10:04] <hex_st0rm> hey everyone
[10:04] <hex_st0rm> i just downloaded firefox 2.0 but i cant figure out how to upgrade, is anyone here aware of how to upgrade?
[10:05] <aleksanteri> apt-get install firefox
[10:05] <Dark> :D
[10:05] <aleksanteri> ^_^
[10:05] <sercik> !beryl
[10:05] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:06] <hex_st0rm> as simple as that alek?
[10:06] <hex_st0rm> gah im an idiot
[10:06] <Dark> apt-get rulez :)
[10:06] <aleksanteri> ye
[10:06] <hex_st0rm> rofl
[10:07] <hex_st0rm> here i was trying to do extremely complex commands when its the most basic command out there
[10:07] <hex_st0rm> gah, thanks
[10:07] <aleksanteri> if it says "already newest version" then you need no upgrade
[10:07] <aleksanteri> otherwise it asks you for confirm if i am correct
[10:07] <aleksanteri> well, in most cases :P
[10:07] <hex_st0rm> k
[10:07] <aleksanteri> in others it does it automatically :P
[10:08] <hex_st0rm> well im using 1.5 when they just distributed 2.0
[10:08] <aleksanteri> ye just use apt-get
[10:08] <hex_st0rm> i can get my hands on 3.0 too ^_^
[10:08] <aleksanteri> O_o oh
[10:08] <Dark> if a .deb has been resealed
[10:08] <menteck> i tryed apt get and it say the package dos not exist an more
[10:08] <Dark> otherwise long hours of compiling :)
[10:08] <aleksanteri> well i am using opera tho, i need no foxes on fire :P
[10:09] <Dark> opera here too heheh
[10:09] <hex_st0rm> lol
[10:09] <hex_st0rm> i've never tried opera
[10:09] <aleksanteri> :D
[10:09] <aleksanteri> i guess you should get it with apt-get too :P
[10:09] <Dark> aleksanteri what irc client are you using?
[10:09] <aleksanteri> kvirc
[10:09] <Dark> you will never guess mine :D
[10:09] <aleksanteri> opera? :P
[10:09] <Dark> ye :D
[10:09] <Sanne> hex_st0rm: (in case you don't know already) if you look for software, it is best to first check if it's already provided by the ubuntu repositories, before downloading manually from the net. You might want to read this info about repositories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[10:10] <aleksanteri> :P you were wrong, i guessed it
[10:10] <Dark> heheh
[10:10] <aleksanteri> i was using opera for a few months but i changed
[10:10] <Dark> you are using opera too, what's why P
[10:10] <Dark> :P
[10:10] <aleksanteri> i was using opera as the irc client*
[10:10] <aleksanteri> :D
[10:10] <hex_st0rm> woot getting vmware too
[10:10] <Dark> it's good for basic irc needs
[10:11] <aleksanteri> the powers of apt-get are unlimited. well almost :P
[10:11] <Dark> apt-get + alien
[10:11] <aleksanteri> for example you can't get xampp with apt-get :|
[10:11] <hex_st0rm> whats alien for?
[10:11] <Dark> transforming rpm into deb :D
[10:11] <aleksanteri> alien is a creater in outer space
[10:11] <hex_st0rm> nice
[10:11] <aleksanteri> creature*
[10:11] <mats> ports is allmost unlimited.. but hey - you save time using binarys
[10:11] <hex_st0rm> im so excited
[10:11] <aleksanteri> fyi
[10:12] <clodo> vive la france vive la france
[10:12] <hex_st0rm> getting vmware
[10:12] <Dark> lol
[10:12] <aleksanteri> ^_^
[10:12] <hex_st0rm> wait
[10:12] <hex_st0rm> oh poo
[10:12] <hex_st0rm> i only got 256mb of ram
[10:12] <aleksanteri> i use partititions so i don't use vmware
[10:12] <hex_st0rm> lol my virtual machines are gonna be hella slow
[10:12] <aleksanteri> windows xp + linux kubuntu :)
[10:12] <Dark> me too
[10:12] <Dark> :D:D
[10:12] <aleksanteri> :D :P
[10:13] <hex_st0rm> me too
[10:13] <hex_st0rm> i tried nUbuntu
[10:13] <hex_st0rm> its ok
[10:13] <aleksanteri> nubuntu? O_o
[10:13] <hex_st0rm> network ubuntu
[10:13] <hex_st0rm> built for hacking
[10:13] <aleksanteri> ahh :P
[10:13] <hex_st0rm> basicly..
[10:13] <hex_st0rm> not really sure what distro i wanna try next
[10:13] <mats> i think whoax is a better distro for hacking with script-kiddies tools
[10:13] <malik__> how do i  install windows in linux?..............i mean virtually?
[10:13] <fnord5> whats nubuntu running kde/gnome/?
[10:13] <aleksanteri> vmware? :P
[10:14] <hex_st0rm> i think nubuntu runs fluxbox
[10:14] <mats> malik__: use vmware.. the best tool for windows
[10:14] <fnord5> !fluxbox
[10:14] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[10:14] <hex_st0rm> vmware is a program to run virtual machines alek
[10:14] <malik__> is it free or paid software?
[10:14] <aleksanteri> !xgl
[10:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:14] <hex_st0rm> free of course
[10:14] <aleksanteri> !beryl
[10:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:14] <aleksanteri> ic :P
[10:14] <mats> malik__: you cant get it for free
[10:15] <hex_st0rm> it doesnt want me to install it though
[10:15] <hex_st0rm> wont let me hit the cursed OK button
[10:15] <hex_st0rm> *sighs*
[10:15] <hex_st0rm> !adept crash fix
[10:15] <aleksanteri> hmm
[10:15] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:16] <aleksanteri> ubotu is smart! :D
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is smart! :D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <hex_st0rm> uh oh
[10:16] <aleksanteri> O_o
[10:16] <aleksanteri> lol
[10:16] <hex_st0rm> vmware = going corrupted already
[10:16] <Dark> ahahahaha
[10:16] <Dark> ubotu rocks :D
[10:16] <ubotu> rocks: Make network sockets reliable in a transparent way. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-3build1 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 248 kB
[10:16] <aleksanteri> :P
[10:16] <Adlai> !vmware
[10:16] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[10:17] <fnord5> compile a binary?
[10:17] <aleksanteri> O_o
[10:17] <hex_st0rm> too lazy
[10:17] <hex_st0rm> wo0t
[10:17] <hex_st0rm> vmware's workin again
[10:18] <hex_st0rm> does it run .iso files or what?
[10:18] <Dark> yep
[10:18] <fnord5> how do i compile a binary?
[10:18] <aleksanteri> now i can't pack them :|
[10:18] <aleksanteri> what's the command to pack a tar file :P
[10:18] <hex_st0rm> *curses vmware*
[10:19] <Dark> you won't believe, but I still don't know that command :D
[10:19] <aleksanteri> darn
[10:19] <hex_st0rm> lemme find it
[10:19] <hex_st0rm> yeh i got it bookmarked
[10:19] <aleksanteri> oh :P
[10:19] <aleksanteri> what's it then?
[10:19] <cloakable> !anything
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <aleksanteri> lmao
[10:19] <menteck> how do you install from .tgz
[10:19] <Dark> rofl
[10:20] <hex_st0rm> isnt it just tar?
[10:20] <Dark> noo
[10:20] <aleksanteri> menteck: tar -zxvf tar-file
[10:20] <aleksanteri> try that
[10:20] <aleksanteri> tar unpacks
[10:20] <menteck> thanx
[10:20] <hex_st0rm> untar unpacks
[10:20] <Dark> I knew hat command by hears one day.. but gui makes your memory leak :)
[10:20] <dope> ok what are the codecs again?
[10:20] <hex_st0rm> !pastebin
[10:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:20] <dope> i'm playin an avi file and i can't see the movie
[10:20] <aleksanteri> hex_st0rm: no tar unpacks :P
[10:20] <ricanelite> Who here uses Apollon File Sharing?
[10:21] <hex_st0rm> http://www.computerhope.com/unix/utar.htm
[10:21] <mc__> ricanelite: me
[10:21] <Dark> ubotu osama bin laden
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about osama bin laden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Dark> :D
[10:21] <aleksanteri> :P
[10:21] <dope> are the codec packs i can download?
[10:21] <hex_st0rm> i need some help...
[10:21] <hex_st0rm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37624/
[10:21] <ricanelite> well mc_ I'm getting a Connection Error when I open up the program
[10:21] <hex_st0rm> when i try to install firefox i get that
[10:21] <aleksanteri> ubotu microsoft
[10:22] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:22] <aleksanteri> ...
[10:22] <fnord5> ustbe the version of aim im on
[10:22] <aleksanteri> ubotu microsoft being stupid
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microsoft being stupid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <aleksanteri> :D
[10:22] <hex_st0rm> ...
[10:22] <aleksanteri> o well :P
[10:22] <hex_st0rm> microsoft pwns
[10:23] <aleksanteri> what does pwn mean? :P
[10:23] <hex_st0rm> owns
[10:23] <aleksanteri> not sure
[10:23] <hex_st0rm> its good
[10:23] <hex_st0rm> lol
[10:23] <aleksanteri> o
[10:23] <aleksanteri> m$ sux
[10:23] <hex_st0rm> bull!
[10:23] <aleksanteri> ???
[10:23] <aleksanteri> o well :|
[10:23] <Dark> hex your firefox is newest already
[10:23] <hex_st0rm> no its not
[10:23] <hex_st0rm> when i open it up its still the crappy one
[10:24] <ricanelite> who here uses Apollon File Sharing?
[10:24] <Dark> forefox -v in console hex
[10:24] <hex_st0rm> sudo apt-get install firefox -v?
[10:24] <Dark> no
[10:24] <Dark> firefox -v
[10:24] <Dark> only
[10:24] <Dark> paste what is says
[10:24] <hex_st0rm> menace@menace-desktop:~$ firefox -v Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.8, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2006 mozilla.org
[10:24] <fnord5> some ones trying to warn me on gaim but it wont let them,it says "user fnord portland cant be warned".is this a niffty feature of gaim or soemthing else?
[10:25] <Dark> hmm
[10:25] <aleksanteri> !gaim
[10:25] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[10:25] <aleksanteri> o
[10:25] <BDDF> ricanelite: i do
[10:25] <Dark> hex that means you have to install firefox manually
[10:25] <fnord5> oh n ever mind we found te problem
[10:25] <hex_st0rm> how can i do that?
[10:25] <Dark> get a 2.0 .deb packaje if you can
[10:26] <hex_st0rm> i downloaded 2.0 and its a tar file
[10:26] <aleksanteri> if ur lucky you get sh :P
[10:26] <hex_st0rm> then i untar'd it
[10:26] <hex_st0rm> it has a sh file
[10:26] <Dark> then dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb
[10:26] <aleksanteri> the do
[10:26] <hex_st0rm> it wont run
[10:26] <aleksanteri> cd <unpacked directory>
[10:26] <Dark> you downloaded source
[10:26] <aleksanteri> and "./configure"
[10:26] <aleksanteri> but that's a bit tricky :|
[10:26] <Dark> yea...
[10:27] <Dark> compiling is the last resort :)
[10:27] <aleksanteri> i needed to download lots of libraries to get autoconf :P
[10:27] <aleksanteri> then i had compiling as the first resort :P
[10:27] <Dark> known expelience lol
[10:27] <hex_st0rm> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[10:27] <aleksanteri> i was stupid :P
[10:27] <Dark> experience*
[10:27] <hex_st0rm> thats the only download i can find for it
[10:28] <aleksanteri> hmmm
[10:28] <hex_st0rm> menace@menace-desktop:~/Desktop/firefox$ ./updater
[10:28] <hex_st0rm> Usage: updater <dir-path> <parent-pid> [working-dir callback args...] 
[10:28] <hex_st0rm> eeeek sorry
[10:28] <Dark> lol
[10:29] <hex_st0rm> but, how do i work that?
[10:29] <Dark> hex_st0rm
[10:29] <hex_st0rm> not sure what parent pid means and stuff...
[10:29] <Dark> either disro upgrade
[10:29] <Dark> or source compilation
[10:29] <hex_st0rm> disro upgrade?
[10:29] <Dark> using dapper right?
[10:29] <hex_st0rm> yes i think
[10:29] <hex_st0rm> not sure
[10:29] <aleksanteri> :D 7z is great! :P
[10:29] <Dark> distro*
[10:29] <hex_st0rm> and not sure how to check
[10:29] <aleksanteri> xcept that i don't know where's the zip file now
[10:30] <Dark> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:30] <aleksanteri> ahh it's at the root folder :P
[10:30] <aleksanteri> ok everything backed up ;)
[10:30] <Dark> if you see manny dappers there
[10:30] <Dark> than it's dapper :D
[10:30] <hex_st0rm> yes im using dapper then
[10:30] <aleksanteri> let's go :)
[10:31] <Dark> so if you want 2.0 firefor, you need to upgrade to edgy
[10:31] <hex_st0rm> k
[10:31] <Dark> or compile 2.0 source
[10:31] <hex_st0rm> is edgy still in beta?
[10:31] <Dark> nope
[10:31] <aleksanteri> O_o now i got stuck
[10:31] <hex_st0rm> ok
[10:31] <Sanne> hex_st0rm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:31] <hex_st0rm> is there any chance of me losing my files?
[10:32] <aleksanteri> apt-get -f install
[10:32] <aleksanteri> Reading package lists... Done
[10:32] <aleksanteri> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:32] <aleksanteri> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 809 not upgraded.
[10:32] <aleksanteri> root@...
[10:32] <aleksanteri> uh oh...
[10:32] <hex_st0rm> because i think i wanna upgrade to edgy
[10:32] <aleksanteri> it gets stuck
[10:32] <deus> hello again
[10:32] <hex_st0rm> but i dont wanna lose my files
[10:32] <mirsh> i'm trying to install kubuntu from the live environment, but the partitioner keeps saying i've no root filesystem. although I DO. i've set a perfect 7 GBs as /, a swap, and a /home. what's wrong?
[10:32] <aleksanteri> !7z
[10:32] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:32] <Sanne> hex_st0rm: backing up is wise
[10:32] <hex_st0rm> ok
[10:32] <hex_st0rm> gah
[10:32] <aleksanteri> !p7zip
[10:32] <ubotu> p7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.42.dfsg.1-2 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 944 kB
[10:32] <hex_st0rm> 8gigs that i have to back up
[10:32] <hex_st0rm> gah
[10:32] <aleksanteri> p7zip is cwl
[10:33] <deus> I let my computer sit, trying to load up the kubuntu liveCD, for 30 minutes and it did nothing.  Im pretty sure there was something wrong
[10:33] <deus> It just sat there with a frozen progress bar for 30 minutes
[10:33] <Dark> hex distro upgrade is not that brutal :) but you need to be able to work with console, just in case :)
[10:33] <matthew> deus, did you do a checksum on it?
[10:33] <deus> yeah, twice
[10:34] <matthew> deus, did you check it to make sure the d/l wasn't corrupt, or did you check it to  make sure that the image on the disc matched the image stored on you computer?
[10:34] <ricanelite> BDDF I am getting a Connection Error when I open up Apollon
[10:35] <aleksanteri> ok
[10:35] <deus> yeah, i thought I did
[10:35] <aleksanteri> brb
[10:35] <aleksanteri> hopefully :P
[10:35] <Sanne> deus: there's also a cd check just after starting, in case you haven't donw that yet.
[10:35] <matthew> deus, how much RAM does your computer have?
[10:35] <deus> yeah, I ran that and it hung too
[10:35] <deus> about 1 GB
[10:35] <matthew> deus, hmmm, I'm out of ideas...sorry
[10:36] <deus> groan
[10:36] <Dark> :(
[10:36] <Dark> something with hardware as it seems
[10:36] <deus> Is there anyway I can hire someone to come to me house and force this POS to work?
[10:36] <BluesKaj> how is foobar used in a URL search ?
[10:36] <Sanne> deus: if you want to install, the alternate cd might work then.
[10:37] <deus> I wanted to run the liveCD to make sure it workde
[10:38] <Sanne> deus: lol, yeah, that's kinda doh ;). Did you do a memtest? Sometimes it's because of bad ram.
[10:38] <Sanne> deus: or, you could burn the cd again very slowly, also helps sometimes.
[10:43] <Sanne> deus: also maybe this might help you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyKnownIssues
[10:44] <aleksanteri> :D works perfectly
[10:44] <aleksanteri> i have now transparent menus and shading :)
[10:44] <aleksanteri> that's why i wanted to upgrade my xorg :P
[10:45] <Dark> gratz on new distro aleksanteri :)
[10:45] <aleksanteri> ty dark
[10:45] <deus> thanks
[10:45] <fnord5> how would switch to the 2600 network?
[10:47] <Dark> !rezus
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rezus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <Dark> ^^
[10:49] <deus> My computer has been working correctly for about 5 months with windows and then mepis. Is it likely that I could still have bad ram?
[10:49] <klopsy> hello
[10:49] <aleksanteri> !you
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <fnord5> im trying to switch to another irc network,how do i do this?
[10:50] <aleksanteri> :P
[10:50] <aleksanteri> fnord5: client?
[10:50] <fnord5> its the 2600 network
[10:51] <aleksanteri> ???
[10:51] <fnord5> client?
[10:51] <fnord5> im confused im new to irc
[10:52] <aleksanteri> what app are you using?
[10:52] <aleksanteri> konversation/kvirc/opera?
[10:52] <fnord5> kon
[10:52] <aleksanteri> ok
[10:52] <aleksanteri> lemme see
[10:53] <aleksanteri> hmm
[10:53] <aleksanteri> menu -> file
[10:53] <aleksanteri> of F2 :P
[10:53] <fnord5> yup
[10:53] <aleksanteri> or*
[10:53] <Sanne> deus: Windows is more forgiving re bad ram, but if you ran linux, it isn't too likely. But why not check it just to be safe? It's an option on the live cd (if you get it to run), let it run for some hours.
[10:54] <aleksanteri> a dialog box opens, choose ur server there
[10:54] <fnord5> thnx
[10:55] <aleksanteri> np ;)
[10:59] <fnord5> whats the lost and found folder?
[10:59] <menteck> tgz
[10:59] <aleksanteri> dunno
[10:59] <fnord5> the only thing ive seen it used for in windows programs
[11:00] <aleksanteri> oh
[11:00] <sinpath> what should i do about a java plugin install that seems to be stuck in preparing prosses for 3 hours?
[11:01] <aleksanteri> O_o
[11:01] <matthew> sinpath, it's probably stuck at a screen where you need to accept the license agreement
[11:01] <sinpath> >_<
[11:01] <matthew> what program are you using to install it?
[11:01] <matthew> sinpath, what program are you using to install it?
[11:02] <sinpath> adept manager its a mozilla/firefox plug in
[11:03] <matthew> sinpath, I try to stay away from adept, so I don't really know. Look around for an option to view more, or see terminal or something like that.
[11:03] <aleksanteri> :P
[11:04] <sinpath> how would i go about ending this stalled prosses?
[11:04] <aleksanteri> hmm
[11:04] <aleksanteri> click on the x button :P
[11:04] <sinpath> haha  ok
[11:05] <sinpath> seems  to work
[11:05] <matthew> sinpath, it worked?
[11:05] <sinpath> yep
[11:05] <matthew> sinpath, good to hear it!
[11:05] <aleksanteri> :)
[11:06] <sinpath> so how doy you install java olug ins for mozilla/fire fox with out adept?
[11:06] <aleksanteri> apt-get ?
[11:07] <matthew> sinpath, for command line, use apt-get or aptitude, for a graphic installer, use synaptic
[11:07] <matthew> sinpath, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:07] <sinpath> o_o lost me
[11:07] <matthew> type in sudo apt-get install synaptic in a terminal
[11:08] <sinpath> konsole?
[11:08] <matthew> sinpath, yup
[11:09] <}Feanor{> mmm someone can use a nokia 6600 like a wireless mouse?
[11:09] <}Feanor{> on [k] ubuntu
[11:10] <sinpath> Recommended packages:
[11:10] <sinpath>   libgnome2-0 gksu deborphan libgnome2-perl
[11:10] <sinpath> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[11:10] <sinpath>   launchpad-integration libglade2-0 liblaunchpad-integration0 libvte-common
[11:10] <sinpath>   libvte4 synaptic
[11:10] <sinpath> 0 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 119 not upgraded.
[11:10] <sinpath> Need to get 1807kB/1890kB of archives.
[11:10] <sinpath> After unpacking 8475kB of additional disk space will be used.
[11:10] <sinpath> Do you want to continue
[11:10] <sinpath> should i keep going with this?
[11:10] <matthew> sinpath, yes
[11:10] <aleksanteri> ye
[11:11] <matthew> sinpath, if you need to paste big stuff like that, use paste bin
[11:11] <matthew> !pastebin | sinpath
[11:11] <ubotu> sinpath: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:11] <aleksanteri> :)
[11:11] <matthew> aleksanteri, ha ha, I'm always just a _little_ bit faster...lol
[11:12] <aleksanteri> darn it :|
[11:12] <sinpath> so this will install the java plug ins i need?
[11:13] <matthew> sinpath, this will install a GUI-based program that will allow you to install the java-plugins that you need.
[11:13] <sinpath> ok its done so now what?
[11:14] <matthew> sinpath, type in "synaptic" in the terminal w/o the quotations
[11:15] <sinpath> not runing as root
[11:15] <sinpath> The application will run in read-only mode. You will not be able to change the package database.
[11:15] <matthew> sinpath, it's easier to see messages that are addressed to me...try typing my name, or the first three letters and hitting tab to complete my name.
[11:15] <matthew> sinpath, whoops, do this: sudo synaptic
[11:15] <aleksanteri> it will ask for ur password
[11:16] <matthew> aleksanteri, that's kind of a given.
[11:16] <aleksanteri> :P
[11:16] <matthew> sinpath, you need to close synaptic and do sudo synaptic in the Konsole
[11:16] <sinpath> matthew   i did that
[11:17] <matthew> sinpath, ok, now that synaptic is up, do a search for firefox java
[11:17] <sinpath> ok
[11:18] <sinpath> cant you use privet chat?
[11:18] <moritz> hey guys.... Ihave a problem: After studying and trying a lot of things I can't look straming videos on the internet.....there is an error message that says ("no video")
[11:18] <matthew> sinpath, read my messages in private chat, please
[11:18] <matthew> moritz, I'm really not supposed to say this, but try automatix2 www.getautomatix.com
[11:18] <matthew> sinpath, brb, gotta go take a dump
[11:19] <aleksanteri> matthew: what was the shortcut to get the kdesu window?
[11:19] <sinpath> lol ok cant see your messages
[11:19] <moritz> matthew, I tried it already
[11:19] <LjL> !automatix | matthew, moritz
[11:19] <ubotu> matthew, moritz: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:19] <BluesKaj> !fr
[11:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:20] <aleksanteri> !ubuntu
[11:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[11:20] <aleksanteri> :P
[11:20] <moritz> ubotu, some videos a running, but not quicktime, do you have another Idea, then reinstalling?
[11:20] <aleksanteri> moritz: ubotu is a bot
[11:20] <moritz> oh, alright
[11:20] <moritz> sorry
[11:20] <SnDPhoenix> hello ppl, i need help and im hoping someone here knows what to do
[11:21] <BluesKaj> moritz, type ,about:plugins,  in your browser address bar
[11:21] <moritz> bluesKaj, done
[11:22] <aleksanteri> i gotta go to sleep
[11:22] <aleksanteri> bye
[11:22] <moritz> bye
[11:22] <rance> Anybody remember the old "banner" program from unix that allowed you to print long horizontal banners to continuous feed printers?, is that available for ubuntu, I can't find it
[11:22] <sinpath> bye
[11:23] <moritz> bluesKaj, what's next? What I'm supposed to do?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> now you'll see which codecs and video players are setup in your browser , moritz...make sure you have "flash " ...it's the most popular on video stream sites like youtube
[11:24] <matthew> k, I'm back
[11:24] <moritz> bluesKaj, yes flash is there, as well as VLC, Quicktime plugin, Real Player 9, Windoof Media Player Plugin, mplayerplug,
[11:25] <moritz> blueskay, but only quicktime is not running
[11:25] <sinpath> hey matthew cant see your privet chat messages
[11:25] <esaym> say can someone help me out and send me: /etc/init.d/displayconfig-hwprobe.py
[11:26] <matthew> sinpath, oh, ok....ummm, I just smoked some salvia, so I'm pretty messed up right now...
[11:26] <sinpath> hahaha ok man
[11:26] <BluesKaj> that means you need to DL quicktime plugin for your browser...make sure all the plugins say "enabled "
[11:26] <matthew> sinpath, I just said that I prefer to use the open chat room so that if anyone else has the same problem, they can see the solution
[11:27] <sinpath> ok sutes me fine
[11:27] <moritz> blueskay, I have QuickTime Plug-in 6.0 / 7 and it is enabled.....
[11:27] <matthew> sinpath, so...how did synaptic turn out? did it work ok?
[11:27] <moritz> do you have any Idea, blueskay?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> moritz, try youtube for flash
[11:28] <sinpath> *sigh* installed but still cant use the java window needed
[11:28] <moritz> yes youtube works, I just tried it
[11:28] <matthew> sinpath, try installing it, and in the window that pops up, click on view terminal
[11:29] <moritz> if you know www.rocketboom.com for instance.... it is quicktime and in the videowindow is standing (no video)
[11:29] <BluesKaj> ok, checking it our , moritz
[11:29] <moritz> thank you
[11:30] <sinpath> well i installed the mozilla java plug in but the java window im trying to use still dosnt work
[11:30] <matthew> sinpath, restart firefox
[11:30] <esaym> do you have a link to the java window? is it on a website?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> moritz, that site requires Mplayerplugin for your browser , FF or mozilla ?
[11:30] <sinpath> o.o tryed that
[11:30] <matthew> sinpath, try a reboot...and if that doesn't work, then I don't know
[11:30] <costas> hey guys, im having a really weird problem. i have a custom compiled kernel with the latest 9631 nvidia drivers. Also, i use fluxbox+rox-filer. when i double click on the rox pinboard desktop icons in fluxbox i get massive delays where the pc is doing nothing before apps start. everything is fine with kde and starting apps using the terminal. any ideas
[11:31] <BluesKaj> "mplayer plugin for mozilla" will work for both
[11:31] <moritz> blueskay, I have installed mplayerplug-in 3.31.... is it the right one?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> FF & mozilla
[11:31] <[Relic] > What section of configuration am I looking for to turn off all the annoying sounds?
[11:32] <sinpath> mplayer for a java plugin?
[11:32] <matthew> sinpath, I don't think they were addressing you
[11:33] <sinpath> oh>.<
[11:33] <matthew> sinpath, try a reboot...and if that doesn't work, then I don't know
[11:33] <sinpath> firefox has been restared
[11:33] <Sanne> [Relic] : System Settings/Sound & Multimedia/System Notifications
[11:33] <sinpath> ok then brb
[11:34] <moritz> blueskay, so I have already mplayerplug-in 3.31....
[11:35] <[Relic] > yay!  no more sound everytime I click something  :)
[11:35] <matthew> [Relic] , that was buggin
[11:36] <matthew>  me as well
[11:36] <BluesKaj> moritz, does it work ?
[11:36] <Sanne> [Relic] : glad it worked. Turning off all system sounds is one of the first things I do ;)
[11:36] <moritz> blueskay, by the way....wma doesn't work as well.......no it doesn't
[11:37] <BluesKaj> It's harder in windows...darn updates reiopens those obnoxious sounds
[11:37] <BluesKaj> what browser?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> moritz, what browser ?
[11:38] <moritz> firefox 2.0
[11:38] <[Relic] > I just did the window manager stuff
[11:38] <esaym> anyone want to help?
[11:39] <manchicken> wma == evil
[11:39] <moritz> manchicken, yes I know
[11:39] <moritz> I meant wmv
[11:39] <[Relic] > now if I could only find away to import my mozilla settings into firefox I would be ok  :)
[11:39] <manchicken> That's evil too ^_^
[11:39] <moritz> :)
[11:40] <BluesKaj> moritz, do you have mplayer installed on kde ?
[11:40] <manchicken> ogg is nice
[11:40] <sinpath> ok back
[11:40] <moritz> blueskay, Yes
[11:40] <matthew> sinpath, did it work?
[11:41] <sinpath> checking now
[11:41] <hex_st0rm> when i put a blank dvd+r in my computer so that i can back up all my files, why does it not let me open the dvd? it just asks me if i want to save it or what to open it with. I try to open it with konq but that just asks me what to open it with again or says "malformed URL"...does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
[11:41] <sinpath> no not working
[11:41] <matthew> sinpath, ok, I'm out of ideas, sorry
[11:42] <julle_> !lamp
[11:42] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:42] <Sanne> esaym: there you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37642/
[11:42] <moritz> blueskay, any ideas....?
[11:42] <sinpath> its ok
[11:42] <sinpath> i'll figer it out some how
[11:42] <esaym> heck ya your the best!!!
[11:43] <esaym> thanks Sanne
[11:43] <Sanne> esaym: you're welcome
[11:43] <BluesKaj> reinstall mplayer plugin for mozilla ...is all I can think of , moritz
[11:43] <moritz> blueskay, ok thank you for your time.... I'll try it
[11:44] <BluesKaj> np
[11:44] <julle_> is there possible to install LAMP over repro?
[11:44] <PsiKloPx> I've used kiso to image a cd but can't find a way to mount the image.  Is there a virtual drive progam for linux similar to Daemon Tools?
[11:45] <julle_> or maybe a .deb pack that install everything its ridiculous that you have to go through all the shit the guide is telling you
[11:45] <sinpath> think it might work if i just get all of the java plugins?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> moritz, sudo apt-get install mplayer-mozilla
[11:45] <hex_st0rm> PsiKloPx: you could always vmware
[11:46] <adz21c> PsiKloPx: I don't remember how but there is a way to mount iso images on loopback or something ...
[11:47] <moritz> blueskay, he can't fint it, do I have to improve my sources?
[11:47] <Sanne> julle_: huh? I found it not too difficult, I had my lamp up and running pretty quickly. And I don't think it's very nice to refer to our nice guide as "shit".
[11:47] <matthew> sinpath, I don't know...I'm pretty blasted at the moment...lol
[11:48] <hex_st0rm> when i put a blank dvd+r in my computer so that i can back up all my files, why does it not let me open the dvd? it just asks me if i want to save it or what to open it with. I try to open it with konq but that just asks me what to open it with again or says "malformed URL"...does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this
[11:48] <sinpath> hehe i hear yas man take care then imma gonna try it
[11:48] <matthew> sinpath, ok, I've a good one
[11:49] <sinpath> i will
[11:50] <matthew> sinpath, I meant, have a good one...lol
[11:50] <sinpath> go have fun man your blasted
[11:50] <Sanne> PsiKloPx: mount -o loop -t iso9660 path/to/your.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[11:50] <sinpath> me i got to cook
[11:50] <matthew> yeah...
[11:50] <matthew> sinpath, lol, have fun at that...
[11:51] <moritz> blueskay, any sources I have to add?
[11:51] <PsiKloPx> Thanx Sanne...I'll give it a shot
[11:51] <Sanne> PsiKloPx: you're welcome
[11:51] <manodad> moritz: apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[11:51] <julle_> Sanne: did you use a lamp server? no the guide is not shit that not what a meant, i am sorry i am just tired and you know how words can come out wrong ;)
[11:52] <moritz> yes, he doesn't find it , blueskay
[11:52] <BluesKaj> moritz, http://www.linux-sxs.org/multimedia/mplayer.html
[11:52] <Sanne> julle_: yeah, sometimes it can be frustrating ;). I'm using apache, php and mysql on my dapper.
[11:52] <hex_st0rm> anyone have any ideas on my problem?
[11:52] <manodad> moritz: apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[11:52] <A-L-A-R-M> where can i find the kdetv configuration file ? i want actually to reset the applications settings to default. i got it running once , but now i get the message "unable to grab image and to try to play with v4l pluging"
[11:53] <julle_> Sanne: okey
[11:53] <BluesKaj> manodad, he already tried apt-get
[11:54] <julle_> Sanne: i will read it again when i am not this tired, been fixing problems all evening :P
[11:54] <Sanne> julle_: good luck :)
[11:55] <manodad> BluesKaj: Yes but the package name was wrongly spelled
[11:55] <lguilherme> alguem sabe se o kubuntu tem synaptic?
[11:55] <manodad> the package is called mozilla-mplayer, Not mplayer-mozilla
[11:55] <bioticpro> Can anyone recommend good laptop brand to buy? (or another irc to go ask on)
[11:55] <BluesKaj> that's the way it's listed in adept, manodad
[11:56] <cloakable> bioticpro: IBM are pretty linux friendly laptops
[11:56] <manodad> ok..I just installed it by using apt-get install mozilla-mplayer....work like a charm now on www.rocketboom.com
[11:56] <moritz> blueskay, manodad, the terminal says I already have the newest version
[11:57] <moritz> manodad, no it doesn't on my PC
[11:58] <manodad> BluesKaj: try apt-cache search mplayer | grep mplayer
[11:58] <manodad> BluesKaj: Does it then find a package called that
[11:58] <hex_st0rm> !frostwire
[11:59] <BluesKaj> I'l already have it installed and working , manodad
[11:59] <manodad> BluesKaj: Ok
[11:59] <moritz> manodad, blueskay.... Yes I already have installed it as well, but it doesnt work.... and I don't know why
[11:59] <bioticpro> cloakable, IBM has no 17" gamer laptops I think, any others good?  I am thinking of Toshiba or HP, maybe Dell/Gateway
[12:00] <hex_st0rm> when i put a blank dvd+r in my computer so that i can back up all my files, why does it not let me open the dvd? it just asks me if i want to save it or what to open it with. I try to open it with konq but that just asks me what to open it with again or says "malformed URL"...does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this
[12:00] <manodad> moritz: Have you tried to uninstall the package and the installed it again...
[12:00] <moritz> and I followed exactly this manual to install it (it is like yours): http://www.debianadmin.com/install-mplayer-ubuntu.html
[12:01] <BluesKaj> did you try manodad's method , sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer  ?
[12:01] <moritz> I'll do ot now, manodad, if you would mind telling me how to do it
[12:01] <cloakable> bioticpro: Wouldn't know. But you're going to install Linux on a gaming laptop?
[12:01] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get remove mozilla-mplayer
[12:02] <moritz> yes, blueskay
[12:02] <moritz> ok, thx, blueskay
[12:02] <manodad> moritz: and then sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:02] <BluesKaj> it's BluesKaj, not blueskay ...I'm an old guy
[12:03] <hex_st0rm> lol
[12:03] <manodad> moritz: all these operations you do in a console window
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Kaj rhymes with sky ...hence BluesKaj
[12:04] <hex_st0rm> what language is kaj from?
[12:04] <moritz> BluesKay (sorry), manodad, yes I did it all in the console window and even after reinstalling mozilla-mplayer, it doesn't work
[12:04] <bioticpro> cloakable, probably not, I use linux on desktop... laptop, I am just asking based on general quality and durability
[12:04] <moritz> BluesKay (sorry), manodad, and I closed firefox and reopend it
[12:04] <manodad> moritz: ok...
[12:06] <BluesKaj> the guy can't read either
[12:06] <BluesKaj> BBL
[12:06] <moritz> BluesKay (sorry), manodad, I think I will be going to bed (it is already 00:05 am over here. And I'll try somewhat later on
[12:06] <moritz> BluesKay (sorry), manodad, I thank you both for your patience with me
[12:07] <BluesKaj> moritz, try hitting the tab after typing this,  Blu
[12:07] <manodad> moritz: Yeah...The time is same here in Sweden so its time for bed as well here
[12:07] <moritz> BluesKaj: hey cool trick ;)
[12:08] <BluesKaj> svenksa !
[12:08] <BluesKaj> see there's no Y in my name :)
[12:08] <BluesKaj> or y
[12:08] <moritz> BluesKaj: oh shit, shame on me
[12:08] <BluesKaj> hehe
[12:08] <moritz> BluesKaj: good night
[12:08] <cloakable> bioticpro: Then IBM. High quality, excellent durability.
[12:08] <moritz> manodad: good night
[12:09] <BluesKaj> goodnight moritz
[12:09] <manodad> BluesKaj: Goodnight
[12:09] <manodad> moritz: Goodnight
[12:09] <BluesKaj> goodnight manodad
[12:09] <moritz> :D
[12:15] <drkm> when doing apt-get install kde-desktop.. what version of kde is that installing?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> should be 3.5.5
[12:15] <drkm> ok thanks
[12:15] <drkm> is 4 still under development?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> yes