[12:01] <acke> Hey, i have a copy of warcraft 3.. I bought it. so i have legal cd-key and everything. but whne i run it with wine, it complains about no cd found. how would i make wine search in the right drives?
[12:02] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: I've alwais needed root :/
[12:02] <jesse> acke:>you can't, try vmware server
[12:02] <kittykitty> lets see if any gets this reference
[12:02] <acke> jesse, ??
[12:02] <acke> how would that help me?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: now you go tme thinking
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: ask in motu they would know ;)
[12:02] <christiane> nevron, jesse: What could I check first?
[12:02] <acke> its not possible to run without nocd crack in wine?
[12:02] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: yeah
[12:02] <Faar> When installing Ubuntu the installation hangs at 73%, the LiveCD works and no complaints about nothing.
[12:03] <jesse> acke:>wine it kinda stupid because it is just an emulator
[12:03] <Taa5i> !debootstrap
[12:03] <tamsyn> hi
[12:03] <ubotu> debootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB
[12:03] <jesse> christiane:> the model #
[12:03] <tamsyn> anyone know much about beryl on edgy?
[12:03] <Taa5i> Where might I find a guide on installing Edgy Eft using Debootstrap please?
[12:04] <christiane> 7149
[12:04] <Everflex> When i try to run Frostwire, this is the output from the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37464/ is there a problem with runFrost.sh, how can i fix it?
[12:04] <fiveiron> hey just out of curiosity... how do you (or can you) drop to a non graphical boot up while everything is loading?
[12:04] <wimpies> gnomefreak : I can load some snd... modules but snd_hda_intel and snd_hda_codec not.
[12:04] <jesse> christiane:> hmmm... I don't really know, just that mine is 9600
[12:04] <wimpies> However i can load them on my laptop where the same kernel is installed ????
[12:05] <christiane> jesse: That was the  lspci output
[12:05] <Taa5i> So far I seem to have gotten to the point where I have to install grub, however within the debootstrap chroot, grub cannot find /dev/hda to install to.
[12:05] <gnomefreak> wimpies: i would wait for crimsun and ask him if he shows up.
[12:05] <christiane> jesse: It's a X1300 or X1400
[12:05] <wimpies> think he is coming online soon ?
[12:05] <jesse> christiane:> wait i have to take the dog out give me a minute
[12:05] <n2diy> how can I configure Nautilus to archive recursively?
[12:06] <specialdave> i need help with ubuntu set up...can anyone PM me if they think they can help?
[12:06] <wimpies> gnomefreak; there is a crimsun_ online ... is that he ?
[12:07] <hujciwdupe> specialdave,whats the problem
[12:07] <lucky> how do i get a device icon, like for a hard drive, off my desktop without unmounting it+
[12:07] <[A] ndy80> I've found a bug in the menu editor: when you run alacarte and add some voices to the application menu, the menu is not updated. You have to logout and login again into the sessione for the menu to be updated. (I'm using dgy)
[12:07] <[A] ndy80> Edgy
[12:07] <acke> jesse, so there are no way to play warcraft 3 online with wine?
[12:07] <specialdave> how do i talk on the main sever window?
[12:08] <jesse> i'm back
[12:08] <hujciwdupe> specialdave, talk on a server window?   sorry i dont even  know what ure talking about
[12:08] <jesse> acke:>go to vmware.com and download the vmware server
[12:09] <Everflex> specialdave: you mean on irc?
[12:09] <acke> been there done that..
[12:09] <specialdave> yea
[12:09] <acke> but then i have to install xp and shit too right?!
[12:09] <Everflex> specialdave: you can only type commands there
[12:09] <specialdave> i know
[12:09] <specialdave> so how do i caht/talk
[12:09] <jesse> acke:> the "server" just means that It can create a VM just like wine can it's just that it can virtually run windows
[12:09] <Everflex> specialdave: no ppl in there to talk to :)
[12:09] <specialdave> sorry my mistake
[12:09] <Everflex> specialdave: you are obviously chatting/talking right now :D
[12:10] <specialdave> yea but on this other window
[12:10] <specialdave> where it says "icr.freenode.net
[12:10] <jesse> christiane:> I'm back
[12:10] <anomaly> any ideas why my wireless card is not getting better than 11megabits? my windows box next to it is the same card and doing fine at 54g ?
[12:10] <Kickersny> is it possible to re-configure a program that was installed via apt-get (specifically, PHP)
[12:10] <Phreddy_Pfander> that's just for typing commands to get the server to do stuff for you specialdave
[12:10] <Everflex> specialdave: ah, ok. no talking in there. It's for announcing official stuff from the server admins side....
[12:11] <hujciwdupe> what do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???
[12:11] <acke> jesse, so it has a vm already that i can use?
[12:11] <jesse> kickersny:>apt-get install php
[12:11] <jesse> acke:> no, but you can create one
[12:12] <Kickersny> jesse, I need to rereun ./configure with different options, though
[12:12] <jesse> acke:> not hard
[12:12] <Kickersny> for an additional library
[12:12] <acke> jesse okay
[12:12] <specialdave> basically...made the cd image...and ubuntu takes ages to load...then when i click on the install thing it doesnt do anything
[12:12] <specialdave> :S
[12:12] <specialdave> and ideas anyone?
[12:12] <Seveas> @config channel plugin.bantracker.stats True
[12:12] <christiane> jesse: I installed fglrx and now got 1280x800. Before (after install of ubuntu) only vesa (1024x768) was possible. Problem is: Playing video gives me onyl about 10 fps. I did the composite and the overlay entray in xorg.conf but it doesn't get better. Why doeas `fglrxinfo` say "mesa3d"?
[12:12] <jesse> kickersny:>what do you mean?
[12:13] <Kickersny> jesse, php.net/exif states that to enable EXIF extension, you configure with --enable-exif when compiling
[12:13] <mon^rch> can anyone tell me how to add compiz themes???
[12:13] <jesse> christiane:> because the chipset is different that the manufactors name
[12:13] <Kickersny> however, apt-get install doesn't prompt for config options, AFAIK
[12:13] <acke> jesse is there a good howto for vmware somewere?
[12:14] <jesse> acke:> on the vmware site
[12:14] <jesse> kickersny:> no
[12:14] <christiane> jesse: Ok, I don't really need 3D support, but good 2D performance. What could I do?
[12:14] <jesse> kickersny:> you can't there is no other way except to execute them separtly
[12:14] <Kickersny> jesse, thanks, I'll Google around some more or just recompile from source
[12:14] <jesse> kickersny:> welcome
[12:15] <Everflex> When i try and run Frostwire, i get this output from the console: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37464/ what is wrong with runFrost.sh?
[12:15] <jesse> christiane:> let me think..
[12:15] <bradley> is there a way to import the xfce panel apps into the gnome panel?
[12:15] <Curs0r> anyone know any easy way to flip a window horizontally so it displays right-left instead of left-right?
[12:15] <Curs0r> mplayer specifically but it could come in handy again i think
[12:16] <jesse> christiane:> mines on the pci bridge
[12:16] <jesse> so...
[12:16] <jesse> you can either get it from the microsoft, ubuntu, or ati site
[12:17] <jesse> i think
[12:17] <Everflex> curs0r: no, but i know how to invert the colors and make it go on the side of a cube :P
[12:17] <wasp_ems> hi..does anyone know how to install gnome-dock?
[12:17] <jrib> Curs0r: use mplayer's filters, maybe rotate and flip
[12:17] <Curs0r> Everflex, what does that mean?
[12:17] <christiane> jesse: Get what?
[12:18] <Curs0r> jrib, it doesn't seem to mind a vertical flip
[12:18] <jesse> christiane:> the correct driver
[12:18] <emun> hi there, what commands do I use to install mplayer , I downloaded tar files from the internet and it is seating on my desktop
[12:19] <dabaR_> !mplayer | emun
[12:19] <ubotu> emun: mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[12:19] <ubotu> emun: For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:19] <Pie-rate> why do i have to use aoss to get sound to actually WORK in ut2004?
[12:19] <Pie-rate> when i dont use aoss it doesn't work
[12:19] <christiane> jesse: Sorry, I think I don't get the point. What do I want from the microsoft site?
[12:19] <dabaR_> why do you even care...
[12:20] <emun> thanks guys I will work on it
[12:20] <myso> hello there i'm kinda new to this so bear with me, i was wondering if i could download ubuntu onto the system i want to install it or if i have to burn the image to a cd and boot it?  because i dont really have extra cds to spare :(
[12:20] <jesse> christiane:> the graphics driver for your ati graphics card
[12:20] <acke> where would my kernel header files be located_
[12:20] <acke> ?
[12:21] <oneironaut> hi
[12:21] <jrib> Curs0r: "mirror"
[12:21] <Pie-rate> when is linux sound going to stop being impossible to get working properly, stop lacking software mixing half the time, and stop generally being a pile of dogcrap?
[12:22] <oneironaut> how can i rebuid the xorg.conf?
[12:22] <christiane> jesse: From ms? I think we have to begin a few steps before. How can (and why should) I use a microsoft driver for xorg?
[12:22] <SilentDis> oneironaut:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:22] <jara>  :) hello
[12:22] <oneironaut> thx SilentDis
[12:22] <mon^rch> can anyone tell me the command to open up the compiz themer???
[12:22] <SilentDis> oneironaut:  nt :)
[12:22] <specialdave> i cant install ubuntu... its really slow and the install thing doenst work
[12:22] <jesse> crap! sorry dang wrong site still loads of crap
[12:23] <SilentDis> specialdave:  by 'doesn't work', do you mean you get an error?
[12:23] <jrib> Curs0r: conveniently that was right above "rotate" in the docs :)
[12:23] <specialdave> no, no errors
[12:23] <blanky> wha'ts a command line command to find out how much free space is on /dev/hdc1
[12:23] <SilentDis> specialdave:  then what does happen?
[12:23] <oneironaut> SilentDis: this cmd does not match
[12:23] <mon^rch> can anyopne help me with compiz???
[12:23] <SilentDis> oneironaut:  hmm?
[12:23] <specialdave> it boots from the CD (very slowly) and then doesnt really do anything once booted
[12:23] <oneironaut> oh ok....
[12:24] <oneironaut> it was my failure..
[12:24] <SilentDis> !compiz | mon^rch
[12:24] <ubotu> mon^rch: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:24] <blanky> anyone? please? a command line program/command to find out the amount of free space on a drive?
[12:24] <wimpies> df
[12:24] <Seveas> blanky, df
[12:24] <wimpies> blanky df
[12:24] <goldbond> i am trying to apt-get software via ssh on an ubuntu server install and it keeps asking me to insert the cd. how do i set the server to download the software?
[12:24] <mon^rch> ty
[12:24] <HYB> df
[12:24] <SilentDis> !df | blanky
[12:24] <ubotu> blanky: Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[12:25] <blanky> thanks guys
[12:25] <jrib> blanky: df -h  if you want to read it
[12:25] <mikebot> cane someone help me get my ubuntu connected to the internet if i have dsl that requires a username and password
[12:25] <efrahim> how can i make ip masqurade on eth0
[12:25] <packagedeliverer> hey I'm kinda testing some stuff and kinda new to it; how do I set the debug level or something, something that changed the way the syslog logs stuff?
[12:25] <efrahim> ?
[12:25] <efrahim> iptables nat -j -o ?
[12:25] <malt1> does clamav on linux have any GUI at all?
[12:25] <oneironaut> k... seems to work fine
[12:26] <mikebot> or does anyone know where i can find information about getting ubuntu working with dsl?
[12:26] <oneironaut> thx SilentDis .. cu later =)
[12:26] <SilentDis> oneironaut:  nt :)
[12:26] <jesse> maltl:>nope
[12:26] <LjL> malt1: i suggest "apt-cache search clamav" with universe enabled
[12:26] <Pie-rate> gaah sound pisses me off so much in linux
[12:26] <packagedeliverer> anyone? : /
[12:26] <malt1> mikebot ubuntu will work for any ype of connectio
[12:27] <mikebot> malt1: yeah, but how?
[12:27] <mikebot> malt1: i need to put a username and password in for my dsl, and i don't know how to set that up in ubuntu
[12:27] <SilentDis> mikebot:  while I might not be able to help you directly... lets define what you have, so someone might be better apt to be able to help.  I assume it goes phone jack > dsl modem > ethernet cable > computer, and you need to use PPPoE to use your DSL service?
[12:27] <mikebot> SilentDis: that's correct
[12:27] <malt1> mikebot: I'm not sure i use a router
[12:28] <n2diy> how can I configure Nautilus to archive recursively?
[12:28] <SilentDis> mikebot:  what it sounds like is you need a PPPoE 'dialer' app for linux
[12:28] <SilentDis> !pppoe
[12:28] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:28] <wimpies> Guys, I need to downgrade a kernel image how do I do that ?
[12:28] <mikebot> is there a way i cand ownload this in windows, then go into ubuntu and open it?
[12:29] <_tcc> Has anyone tried patching their madwiif drivers here?
[12:29] <_tcc> I am having some problems.
[12:29] <SilentDis> mikebot:  you can 'see' your files on NTFS file systems from ubuntu, so you should be able to look at it :)
[12:29] <_tcc> http://passivemode.net/updates/2006/8/1/ubuntu-wep-cracking.html
[12:29] <_tcc> With that.
[12:29] <_tcc> root@box:/usr/src/madwifi# make && make install
[12:29] <_tcc> Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELPATH: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build does not exist.  Stop.
[12:29] <_tcc> I get that error.
[12:29] <blanky> ls
[12:29] <blanky> er
[12:29] <mikebot> SilentDis: ok, thanks; let me read this page and see if i have any questions
[12:29] <SilentDis> !pastebin | _tcc
[12:29] <ubotu> _tcc: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:29] <wimpies> mikebot : install ext3fs drivers for windows XP so you can access the linke partition
[12:29] <schlonzo> hallo?
[12:29] <schlonzo> kann mir jemand mal helfn?
[12:29] <Seveas> !de
[12:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:29] <_tcc> anyone?
[12:29] <flicky> Has anyone installed Red5 server in Ubuntu Server?
[12:29] <SilentDis> mikebot:  or what wimpies said :)
[12:30] <schlonzo> kann mir jemand sagen wie ich die windooze laufwerke einbinde?
[12:30] <mikebot> wimpies: where can ig et that?
[12:30] <LjL> !de | schlonzo
[12:30] <ubotu> schlonzo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:30] <wimpies> look for ext2ifs1_10 on the web
[12:31] <wimpies> it is free
[12:31] <wimpies> and works just fine
[12:31] <Taa5i> Where might I find a guide for installing Edgy Eft via Debootstrap please?  I have looked for some time.
[12:31] <schlonzo> can anyone tell me how to get my windoze partition on my ubuntu?
[12:31] <SilentDis> I am terrible at language recognition.  schlonzo, dutch, finnish, german?
[12:31] <mikebot> OK, thanks
[12:31] <schlonzo> german
[12:31] <eMaX_> hi
[12:31] <LjL> Ubotu, tell schlonzo about windowsdrives | schlonzo, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:31] <eMaX_> anyone here uses sshfs?
[12:31] <Seveas> !de | schlonzo
[12:31] <ubotu> schlonzo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:31] <Seveas> eMaX_, yes :)
[12:32] <wimpies> mikebot : it is ext2ifs1_10a  sorry
[12:32] <flicky> Has anyone installed Red5 Server?
[12:32] <Seveas> !anyone | flicky
[12:32] <ubotu> flicky: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:32] <_tcc> Where is the default kernel ocnfig file?
[12:32] <_tcc> Anyone?
[12:32] <goldbond> eMax: i'm actually trying to install it now. but ubuntu keeps asking for the cd
[12:32] <goldbond> do you know how i get it to download the software?
[12:33] <Seveas> _tcc /boot/
[12:33] <jrib> goldbond: disable the cd-rom repository
[12:33] <goldbond> jrib: thanks.
[12:33] <acke> jesse, got vmware working. now i have to configure a vm?
[12:33] <_tcc> Is it config?
[12:33] <_tcc> config*?
[12:34] <LjL> _tcc: i guess /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic if you're on edgy
[12:34] <packagedeliverer> how do you set the debug level?
[12:34] <jrib> packagedeliverer: for?
[12:34] <packagedeliverer> syslogging
[12:35] <_tcc> It needs to be a directory?
[12:35] <_tcc> wtf?
[12:35] <chemist> hey i have problem with edgy, gtk applications take too long to start
[12:35] <SilentDis> why oh why can't they let ubugtu give out @bauer and @ferengi lines here?  lol
[12:35] <jesse> acke:>fare warning, when you reboot your machine, your ip address might change
[12:36] <jrib> packagedeliverer: not sure, have you checked man syslogd and taken a look at /etc/syslog.conf?
[12:37] <jesse> acke:>I don't really know because everytime i would install vmware it would mess up my wireless card and I had to uninstall it to make it work again
[12:37] <chemist> hey i have problem with edgy, gtk applications take too long to start
[12:37] <jrib> packagedeliverer: man 5 syslog.conf    looks full of information too
[12:37] <goldbond> how do i determine my ip on my network?
[12:37] <packagedeliverer> k, thx I'll have a look
[12:37] <CaBlGuY> !frostwire
[12:37] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:37] <LjL> goldbond: "ifconfig"
[12:37] <jesse> goldbond:> go to www.ipaddress.com
[12:37] <acke> jesse, ooooh. .... so what am i doing with vmware?
[12:38] <n2diy> goldbond: ifconfig
[12:38] <LjL> chemist... upgrade your computer?
[12:38] <acke> jesse, grrrr
[12:38] <mikebot> how can i find out the ip address of my dsl router?
[12:38] <jesse> acke:>sorry, my fault
[12:38] <goldbond> mikebot: ping 192.168.1.1
[12:38] <goldbond> mikebot: also try ping 192.168.0.1
[12:38] <jesse> acke:>i don't really know
[12:38] <Curs0r> awesome! thanks for the help!
[12:38] <goldbond> that should cover 90% of all routers
[12:38] <chorse> mikebot: type `route`, it should be your default gateway
[12:39] <chemist> LjL>there is too much to upgrade. can u tell me which package should i upgrade?
[12:39] <mikebot> golbboth timed out
[12:39] <LjL> chemist: i meant upgrade the *hardware*. bit of a tongue-in-cheek answer, but you know, "too slow" is a tad subjective. hard to track in any way
[12:39] <n2diy> can I configure Nautilus to archive recursively?
[12:39] <mikebot> chorse: i'm using windows
[12:40] <chorse> mikebot: then it is something like `ipconfig`
[12:40] <mikebot> chorse: but how do i know which one is my dsl router?
[12:40] <chemist> LjL> i have 2.4 GHz intel pc with 512 MB RAM and 128 MB ati radeon 9200 video card
[12:41] <LjL> chemist: not too dissimilar from what i have - an example of an application that takes too long? (and how long?)
[12:41] <acke> jesse, hehe damn i really dont want to have to reinstall windows again.. id hope to not even have to use win in vmware
[12:41] <chorse> mikebot: it must be your gateway, it's likely that the ip ends with .1
[12:41] <LjL> chemist: if you can make that a GTK-but-not-GNOME application, it would help, since i'm on KDE
[12:42] <jesse> you mean you installed vmware on windows!?
[12:42] <mikebot> chorse: hehe, none of them end in '1', and i have 2 gateways
[12:42] <acke> jesse i have war3 working with nocd.. but noton battlenet.. :(
[12:42] <mikebot> one under 'ethernet adapter local area connection' and one under 'ppp adapter sbcis'
[12:42] <chorse> mikebot: ping both and unplug the router
[12:42] <chorse> :)
[12:42] <mikebot> heh
[12:42] <jesse> acke:>that's all i can do for now
[12:43] <acke> jesse, thanks
[12:43] <jesse> I have to go and fix my supper, bye
[12:43] <n2diy> mikebot: ppp is your dial up connection.
[12:43] <chemist> LjL: gnome-terminal,gedit takes more than a half minute to open. and applications like GIMP, Inkscape even takes less than half a minute
[12:43] <christiane> Still trying to get my ATI X1[34] 00 to work. Can anyone help?
[12:44] <mikebot> n2diy: i'mt rying to follow this tutorial: http://www.wikihow.com/Configure-Home-DSL-for-Use-in-Ubuntu-Linux
[12:44] <mikebot> and odn't know what to do for step 3
[12:44] <n2diy> mikebot:  I don't have DSL, but here my ppp connection is my dialup connection.
[12:44] <mikebot> ah ok
[12:45] <Jussi01> hei all
[12:45] <chemist> LjL: firefox takes about 1 minute to open
[12:45] <Jussi01> got a small problem, I wonder if some one can help
[12:45] <cchristianJEW> hey
[12:45] <cchristianJEW> where can I get a linux that is small, easy to install, and I can run along with Windows?
[12:46] <Flannel> cchristianJEW: all linuxes can be installed along side windows
[12:46] <LjL> chemist: with the computer idle, does "top" look like anything is eating up the processor?
[12:46] <Kondor> h
[12:46] <n2diy> cchristianJEW: minimal Ubuntu
[12:46] <cchristianJEW> #linux = EMPTY    so I came here
[12:46] <cchristianJEW> hmm
[12:46] <SilentDis> cchristianJEW:  well... ubuntu is good... so is DSL (damn small linux), but it's mainly for low-end hardware, and isn't exactly all that 'pretty'.  as for "run along with windows" do you mean 'run under windows' or 'run on the same machine as windows runs on'?
[12:46] <[maTa] > i have limewire 4.12 and it cannot connect to the network...i dont have firewall, selinux up, nothing... any idea why?
[12:46] <bradley_> where can i find a complete list (preferable with notes and screenshots) of gnome-panel apps?  does such a magical place exist?
[12:47] <chemist> LjL: cpu usage doesn't go more than 8%
[12:47] <cchristianJEW> I got some ubuntu hat want's to be on a CD for some reasn...
[12:47] <LjL> chemist: what about the HD? does "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda" (change hda for whatever your HD is) show a reasonable speed?
[12:48] <cchristianJEW> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386
[12:48] <HYB> cchristianJEW, what about it?
[12:48] <n2diy> cchristianJEW: check out minimal Ubuntu, it is a 7.4m iso.
[12:48] <bling-g-one> Hi everyone
[12:48] <HYB> hi
[12:48] <cchristianJEW> how do I install it after I download?
[12:48] <Flannel> n2diy: it's installed size isn't 7.4mb though
[12:48] <HYB> Burn it to a CD
[12:49] <HYB> burn the .ISO to a CD
[12:49] <HYB> and boot from it
[12:49] <jon_> burn it as an image not date
[12:49] <bling-g-one> I'd like to connect to A Wifi router but their is no field in the configuration menu for a WPA . What should I do?
[12:49] <SilentDis> cchristianJEW:  you download the ISO file, burn it to a cd, put it in your machine, and reboot.  you'll be in linux, without modifying your current machine
[12:49] <macr0_> Does anyone know how I can flush my client dns cache in ubuntu?  Sorry if this is a repeat, I got disconnected and didn't see if the question got through.  Thanks in advance!
[12:49] <n2diy> Flannel, I haven't installed it yet, can you avoid Open Office when you do your install?
[12:50] <cchristianJEW> ahh
[12:50] <au_> I need a script to be run after start..where should I copy it?
[12:50] <SilentDis> eep, someone killed the bots!
[12:50] <cchristianJEW> that's wonderfull
[12:50] <cchristianJEW> thanks
[12:50] <cchristianJEW> bye
[12:50] <Flannel> n2diy: the mini iso is identical in functionality as the alternate CD, except instead of having packages on the CD, it downloads them.  So, if you do the "server" install, from the mini/alternate ISO, then yes.  You'll have a normal GUI-less desktop,w hich you can then install whatever from
[12:50] <Jussi01> when I go to install a program with add remove programs i get this error message: This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gnome-office' the conflicting software must be removed before.
[12:50] <Jussi01> Switch to the advanced mode to resolve this conflict.
[12:50] <Pelo> does anyone know if there is a channel for open office ?
[12:50] <LjL> !minimal
[12:50] <au_> I need a script to be run after start..where should I copy it?
[12:50] <Flannel> Jussi01: try doing it in synaptic package manager, instead of "add/remove"
[12:51] <bling-g-one> I'd like to connect to A Wifi router but their is no field in the configuration menu for a WPA . What should I do?
[12:51] <SilentDis> Pelo:  there is, but ubotu just left, and he has that info
[12:51] <Pelo> damit
[12:51] <Jussi01> thanks flannel
[12:51] <SilentDis> pelo:  stick around, and when he comes back, type !openoffice
[12:51] <n2diy> Flannel: roger that, what would a minimal install with a thin Xserver need disk wise?
[12:51] <SilentDis> there he is
[12:51] <Pelo> thanks SilentDis  I know how to work the bot
[12:51] <Pelo> !openoffice
[12:52] <HYB> ...
[12:52] <HYB> fail.
[12:52] <Flannel> n2diy: size on disk?  Um, no idea.  Not much though.  since all you need is X
[12:52] <jon_> bling-g-one: just enter the wpa password in the passoword field
[12:52] <bling-g-one> jon_, should I choose "plain text" or "hexadecimal?"
[12:52] <SilentDis> pelo:  no, you didn't. i assume they're having issue is all.
[12:52] <n2diy> Flannel, ok, got some old hardware I want to put back in service.
[12:53] <LjL> Pelo: no, just wait a second
[12:53] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[12:53] <Pelo> I got my answer from  #help anyway, thanks guys
[12:53] <Flannel> n2diy: yeah, you'll want the alternate/mini iso, then do a "server" install at the install prompt (this 'server' is different than the server iso), then build up from there.
[12:53] <jon_> bling-g-one: is the password a word or is it a bunch of letters and numbers?
[12:54] <bling-g-one> jon_, it's a word
[12:54] <green_earz> au_: to have a script start after boot. the place where the script go is /etc/init.d   have a look at this link for help with /etc/init.d scripts >http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
[12:54] <ola_> I'm having an issue with getting logs from a remote machine to be placed in a separate file and not in /var/log/syslog Anyone familiar with that? I'm using syslogd.
[12:54] <jon_> bling-g-one: try plain text
[12:54] <Flannel> n2diy: depending on how old they are, you might be able to get by with fluxbox/etc, instead of a thinclient thing
[12:54] <n2diy> can I configure Nautilus to archive files and directories recursively?
[12:55] <jon_> bling-g-one: brb
[12:55] <foob> which kubuntu version should i get, i don't want the stable/lts version that has the old software, i want firefox2.0 and stuff
[12:55] <HYB> Kubuntu 6.10
[12:55] <Pelo> foob,  edgy  ei  6.10
[12:56] <foob> pelo not 'feisty herd'?
[12:56] <n2diy> Flannel, ok, I'm not sure what I'm dealing with yet, but I would like to stay with Ubuntu.
[12:56] <HYB> foo, no that's beta
[12:56] <HYB> or alpha
[12:56] <HYB> I don't know
[12:56] <foob> k
[12:56] <jon_> bling-g-one: did the plain text work?
[12:56] <Flannel> n2diy: yeah, well, you'll be able to install that, which is a barebones install, then add some, see if it works, if not, remove, etc.
[12:56] <Pelo> food  ff 2.0 is the default browser in edgy
[12:57] <Pelo> and food edgy is also the current version
[12:57] <n2diy> food, load the stable, and then use apt-get to upgrade to the stuff you want.
[12:57] <foob> id rather do a fresh install because my ubuntu stable is broken
[12:58] <schlonzo> how can i activate aixgl?
[12:58] <bboy00> part
[12:58] <n2diy> Flannel, roger that, I'm pretty good at "removing" stuff.
[12:58] <bling-g-one> jon_, nope, I'm sure the card is active because the radio button is on, but when I look at the properties of the wireless connection (ath0) it says that the signal force is 0%.. any clues?
[12:58] <jon_> bling-g-one: is it your router?
[12:58] <foob> does kubuntu have the same install processes as ubuntu
[12:59] <Pelo> food yes
[12:59] <LjL> foob: quite similar
[12:59] <bling-g-one> jon_,   yes
[12:59] <bling-g-one> jon_, it's in the same room as my computer
[12:59] <jon_> bling-g-one: can you try using a different type of crypto
[12:59] <n2diy> foob, not really, you have at least to install choices, server, or client. It is designed for thin client networking.
[12:59] <jon_> bling-g-one: wep instead of wpa
[01:00] <kane77> hi
[01:00] <jon_> bling-g-one: just to see if that is the issue
[01:00] <kane77> a plain question: Is it worth upgrading to edgy?? (i read some threads its buggy...)
[01:00] <daimoh> how do you print out a list of all packages you have installed?
[01:01] <jason_> How do I build PKGBUILD Files?
[01:01] <Pelo> Kane unless you have a very good reason to,  I wouldn't ,  I have regretted it
[01:01] <jon_> only buggy if installed from upgrade
[01:01] <Flannel> daimoh: dpkg -l
[01:01] <daimoh> thx flannel
[01:01] <jon_> do clean intall if you are going to do it
[01:01] <bling-g-one> jon_, No I can't because this a router in a shared house and I'm not the one who configured it .. sorry.
[01:01] <kane77> Pelo, why?
[01:02] <jon_> bling-g-one: it isn't your router than
[01:03] <Kirby904> need help, how do i get the microsoft truetype core fonts on linux?
[01:03] <jon_> bling-g-one: most routers allow you to login via a browser to configure them. By deafult most are at http://192.168.11.1/
[01:03] <Pelo> kane77,  minor things seem to cause problems ,  when I try and add a icon to a launcher all the png don'T get displayed in preview,  fille association seems buggy for some apps,  i have to load files into rythbox manualy, for exemple
[01:03] <Kirby904> jon_ theres 192.168.0.1 for D link, 192.168.1.1 for Linksys
[01:03] <bling-g-one> jon_,  nope It isn't I think I misunderstood the question. It's mine, but as other people are using it, I'm not allowed to change it's configuration
[01:03] <SpiX^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37472/ ??? what is wron ?
[01:04] <kane77> Pelo, and did you upgrade or installed as a clean install?
[01:04] <jon_> thats true kirby904
[01:04] <Kirby904> is there some kind of apt get for the microsoft truetype core fonts?
[01:04] <Temp_pennywise> Madywifi frmo linux-headers are missing
[01:04] <foob> is the install process from the dvd the same as from the cd. the only different being that the dvd has more 'offline' files available once it's already installed?
[01:04] <Temp_pennywise> Is it possible to install them again
[01:04] <Pelo> kane77,  I tried upgrading but it only screwed up mty setup so I did a clean install
[01:04] <Flannel> SpiX^: you'd really need to ask the psyBNC people, but it looks as if you don't have some SSL library
[01:05] <jon_> bling-g-one: you could try the wireless assistant tool
[01:05] <Kirby904> wait, the real question is.. is ubuntu a rpm based distro?
[01:05] <SpiX^> what ?
[01:05] <kane77> Kirby904, no...
[01:05] <Kirby904> o ok
[01:05] <bling-g-one> jon_,  wher can I get it ?
[01:05] <jon_> Kirby904: it is deb based
[01:05] <kane77> Kirby904, its deb
[01:05] <humphrey> i have trouble installing feisty fawn with nvidia 5200, in setup procedure i get a green screen and stripes...
[01:05] <jon_> bling-g-one: use synaptic
[01:05] <Kirby904> o ok ty kane
[01:06] <jon_> bling-g-one:  I can find the name of the package if you like
[01:06] <Temp_pennywise> How do I uninstall linux-headers?
[01:06] <Flannel> SpiX^: you need SSL libraries.  But, psyBNC is not supported by Ubuntu, you'd need to consult their documentation on what libraries you might need.  It's definately something SSL related though
[01:06] <wasabi__> so my gnome-session startup won't save anything to add to it
[01:06] <wasabi__> anyone know why?
[01:06] <jon_> wasabi__ it is a bug
[01:06] <Kirby904> dang i cant find the tahoma ttf -.-
[01:06] <jon_> it is doing that to me too
[01:06] <SpiX^> but ca you help me ? i dont know
[01:06] <Pelo> bbl
[01:07] <Kirby904> can anybody help me? i want to play Counter Strike on ubuntu but i gotta find tahoma ttf
[01:07] <wasabi__> jon_, bu my edgy installation on my laptop works fine
[01:07] <wasabi__> any work around?
[01:07] <bling-g-one> jon_,  Yes I would like this please
[01:07] <Temp_pennywise> How do I uninstall linux-headers?
[01:07] <mnoir> Kirby904: try google
[01:07] <brucedes> I want to install ubuntu onto an external usb drive, but it won't properly partition it. Installation always crashes at 15% Anyone know what I should do?
[01:08] <foob> i have winXP+linux installed, i want to replace my linux distro, all i have to do is delete the linux / and swap partitions that i made before and create new ones right. so i dont have to reinstall windows
[01:08] <jon_> bling-g-one:  type this in the terminal to install it:  sudo apt-get wlassistant
[01:08] <brucedes> foob: I'd recommend you backup windows anyway
[01:08] <kane77> Temp_pennywise, I'd try sudo apt-get remove linux-header-version
[01:08] <zidoen> i've got "bouncing keys" on my Dell laptop and fixed it with adding something to menu.lst in grun.. something like "tcr", but i can't remember and i can't find the article again.. anybody remember?
[01:08] <foob> brucedes it's backed up just wondering if thats all i need to do
[01:08] <brucedes> Pretty much yes
[01:09] <brucedes> or keep existing partitions and just reformat them
[01:09] <bling-g-one> jon_,  ok thanks I'll try this
[01:09] <Kirby904> mnoir i was trying to avoid that, because it always gives me some long instructions =S, whenever i ask something on here someone just says "say this command in console" and done.
[01:09] <daimoh> anyone have any ideas why i can't insmod fglrx ?
[01:09] <ryanakca> what's that command to see what a app depends on?
[01:09] <foob> depends
[01:09] <Temp_pennywise> kane77, thx that did it
[01:09] <macr0_> Hi, does anyone know if its possible to flush the client dns cache in ubuntu?  thanks
[01:09] <LjL> ryanakca: apt-cache show packagename
[01:10] <slicky_> anyone know if final cut pro will work on ubuntu?
[01:10] <daimoh> # modprobe fglrx
[01:10] <daimoh> FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx
[01:10] <LjL> macr0_: i don't think there's such a cache by default (systemwide, at least)
[01:10] <krang> has anyone here had a PCMCIA USB 2.0/Firewire port combo card working under ubuntu before? Even a plain vanilla PCMCIA USB 2.0 port card?
[01:11] <ryanakca> LjL: no... for an already installed local app... in my case /usr/local/kde/bin/kssh
[01:11] <daimoh> i've also done a apt-cache search fglrx, and isntalled the xorg-driver-fglrx package as well as linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic
[01:11] <ryanakca> LjL: not a packaged app
[01:11] <drivera90> I feel so nerdy and knowledgeable just by hearing this.
[01:11] <drivera90> :)
[01:11] <daimoh> but there's still no evidence of fglrx being able to be installed... help? :(
[01:11] <LjL> ryanakca: then in principle you can't
[01:12] <LjL> ryanakca: read the README and/or INSTALL files if they exist
[01:12] <LjL> !auto-apt | ryanakca, also this might sometimes be of some help
[01:12] <ubotu> auto-apt: package search by file and on-demand package installation tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.20 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 216 kB
[01:12] <leachizzle> does anyone know how to start a shoutcast server or icecast which are already installed..
[01:12] <drivera90> Question. How good is Ubuntu with USB stuff?
[01:12] <drivera90> I plugged in an iPod and it didn't seem to recognize it.
[01:12] <ianthepetrock> If i install dapper drake, can i use apt to update to edgy?
[01:12] <Flannel> ianthepetrock: yep
[01:12] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ianthepetrock about upgrade | ianthepetrock, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:12] <ianthepetrock> ok thank you :)
[01:13] <krang> drivera90: there's a billion things that won't work without you pissing about with drivers
[01:13] <marshall> whats up guys
[01:13] <Kirby904> >.>
[01:13] <Kirby904> Where is Ubuntu fonts folder?
[01:13] <nails> have there been any recent issues with updates?
[01:13] <PriceChild> nails: yes
[01:13] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Kirby904 about fonts | Kirby904, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:13] <marshall> does anybody here have a sony ericsson w810i?
[01:13] <PriceChild> nails: however they've been very VREY random
[01:13] <Kirby904> ok thanks
[01:13] <ryanakca> LjL: nope... erm... list the libraries an app uses maybe? or once something is compiled, it doesn't use the libraries anymore?
[01:13] <nails> major fubar issues?
[01:13] <PriceChild> nails: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318206
[01:13] <daimoh> anyone help me out with why i can't install a particular module? (fglrx) ?
[01:13] <LjL> ryanakca: ldd
[01:13] <PriceChild> nails: I wouldn't expect you to get them... its a VERY small amount of people considering the amount of people who will have upgraded
[01:13] <leachizzle> does any one know about shoutcast in gereral please need help PM me please..lol come on..
[01:14] <PriceChild> !anyone | leachizzle
[01:14] <ubotu> leachizzle: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:14] <PriceChild> woo second usage Seveas ^ :D
[01:14] <leachizzle> does anyone know about shoutcast in gereral please need help PM me please..lol come on..
[01:14] <LjL> ryanakca: then you can use either auto-apt or apt-file to find out what packages the cited libraries are in
[01:14] <ryanakca> LjL: thanks :D
[01:14] <_tcc> Is there a program on Ubuntu to write music to a CD?
[01:14] <ianthepetrock> Are wireless cards easy to configure or will i need to download drivers?
[01:14] <PriceChild> leachizzle: did you read what i just got sent to you?
[01:14] <ianthepetrock> leachizzle are you wanting to host a shoutcast server?
[01:14] <LjL> ianthepetrock: depends
[01:14] <FirstStrike> _tcc: gnomebaker works well
[01:15] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ianthepetrock about wifi | ianthepetrock, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:15] <leachizzle> yes i did i do
[01:15] <leachizzle> ..
[01:15] <PriceChild> !anyone > leachizzle
[01:15] <ianthepetrock> leachizzle im hosting a shoutcast server right now
[01:15] <PriceChild> leachizzle: well then please follow the advice
[01:15] <nails> PriceChild thanks, was me.. fubar'd my sys (again)
[01:15] <PriceChild> nails: you were affected?
[01:15] <bling-g-one> jon_, I tried with the wlanassistant, and now I get a good signal, but the problem is it only allows me to input a WEP key when i know it's a WPA. I tried inputting it anyways but i didn't work. Any ideas?
[01:15] <nails> yup
[01:15] <krang> ianthepetrock: I dunno, but near on every USB wifi dongle needs to use windows drivers inside a linux wrapper, so I'd expect the same BS if I were you
[01:15] <PriceChild> nails: go to pm please
[01:16] <Faar> How do I set it such that installing from the LiveCD gives detailled description of what it is doing and not just an indicator bar?
[01:16] <jon_> bling-g-one:  I am running out of ideas, I use wep 128 on my router because it works better it the mac that we have.  you could try the kwifimanager
[01:17] <kapace> hello
[01:17] <kapace> how can i check comp specs with ubuntu?
[01:17] <leachizzle> I installed ice cast and shoutcast and im looking to turn them on or like set em up for broadcasting
[01:17] <bling-g-one> jon_,  Ok thanks for the help so far :-)
[01:17] <LjL> kapace: what do you want to check?
[01:17] <kapace> memory
[01:17] <LjL> kapace: cat /proc/meminfo
[01:17] <kapace> k thxs
[01:17] <tuna-fish-> dumb question, is there a command to read stuff from a file and pass it to stdin?
[01:18] <jon_> bling-g-one:  kwlan says it works with wpa
[01:18] <marshall> does anybody here have a sony ericsson w810i?
[01:18] <LjL> kapace: generally speaking "lshw" can also be useful (i think GNOME has a front-end for that somewhere in the System menu)
[01:18] <jon_> bling-g-one:  sudo apt-get install kwlan
[01:18] <kapace> o
[01:18] <kapace> thanks
[01:19] <LjL> tuna-fish-: cat filename | command-you-want-stdin-to-be-read-frm-file
[01:19] <leachizzle> i've made the swicth to ubuntu from XP i cant get shoucast server going.
[01:19] <tuna-fish-> thanks
[01:19] <ryanakca> LjL: kk
[01:19] <lifepositive> hello
[01:19] <lifepositive> whats the best newsreader for Ubuntu to use?
[01:19] <LjL> tuna-fish-: that's for general passing of data from a command to another
[01:19] <ianthepetrock> leachizzle you have downloaded the linux version of shoutcast i assume?
[01:19] <leachizzle> yes i have
[01:19] <ryanakca> LjL: how would I use awk to print only the first collumn? awk '{print $1}' %
[01:19] <LjL> tuna-fish-: but if you merely want to read from an actual file, command-name <filename   will do
[01:20] <ryanakca> ?
[01:20] <LjL> ryanakca: yep
[01:20] <ianthepetrock> leachizzle: and what happens when you try to run it?
[01:20] <leachizzle> thats the thing how where is it..
[01:20] <Okt> Is there a good Nautilus replacement?
[01:20] <tuna-fish-> LjL: yes, I was just wondering how to get stuff from /dev/random to a pipe i was setting up
[01:20] <ianthepetrock> you dont know where you saved it?
[01:21] <LjL> tuna-fish-: cat </dev/random >name-of-your-pipe
[01:21] <leachizzle> i did the general instal from the repository
[01:21] <ianthepetrock> oh
[01:21] <tuna-fish-> LjL: Yeah
[01:21] <l3mr> Oki: Konqueror :)
[01:21] <lifepositive> LjL: whats the best newsreader for Ubuntu to use?
[01:21] <ianthepetrock> im no help then, i downloaded it off the website
[01:21] <lifepositive> !newsreader
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <lifepositive> !news
[01:21] <leachizzle> but how did you get it going
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <noiesmo> !rss
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <daimoh> how do i find out what files are in an installed package?
[01:22] <LjL> lifepositive: don't abuse the bot... ask it about "!best" instead ;)
[01:22] <LjL> lifepositive: i use knode
[01:22] <ianthepetrock> leach: since i downloaded off the website, it gave me an execuatble file
[01:22] <LjL> actually, i don't
[01:22] <lifepositive> whats the best reader for newsgroups?
[01:22] <ryanakca> LjL: something like this should do the trick, right? apt-file search `echo `ldd /usr/local/kde/bin/kssh | awk '{print $1}'``
[01:22] <ianthepetrock> you could try typing "shoutcast" in the console maybe
[01:22] <lifepositive> LjL: knode will download news?
[01:22] <leachizzle> can i PM you?
[01:22] <ianthepetrock> sure
[01:23] <ryanakca> daimoh: find the the package and list the contents with http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:23] <LjL> ryanakca: i think so. but are you just doing this to find out the depends for one program, or do you have something more than that in mind?
[01:23] <lifepositive> Seveas: whats the best reader for newsgroups using Gnome?
[01:23] <leachizzle> lol can you pm me i cant find it or remember the / thingy
[01:23] <daimoh> ryanakca: ah kk - thanks
[01:23] <brohken> can anyone recommend a good laptop that will work out of the box with ubuntu, be cheap, and be able to run Beryl
[01:23] <leachizzle> msg ianthepetrock
[01:23] <LjL> lifepositive: uhm, since it's a newsreader... but it's definitely not for gnome
[01:24] <ianthepetrock> leach
[01:24] <leachizzle> yea
[01:24] <ryanakca> LjL: depends for 1 program
[01:24] <ianthepetrock> its not working i guess im not registered
[01:24] <lifepositive> LjL: I realised that :)
[01:24] <leachizzle> Gmail?
[01:24] <ianthepetrock> ianthepetrock@gmail.com
[01:24] <leachizzle> AIm?
[01:24] <leachizzle> oh kk
[01:24] <LjL> ryanakca: then do it manually, how many libraries can it be! :P
[01:24] <brohken> anyone? sorry to rush, but I gotta run soon
[01:24] <wimpies> gnomefreak : Still here have a problem with mounting an external usb disk who wants to mount on /media/external-1 but I want it on /media/external
[01:25] <eutu> cant boot my ubuntu it gets to the point where it starts to load the desktop and stops
[01:25] <LjL> ryanakca: ah but wait, no, that's not going to work
[01:25] <PriceChild> brohken: go to the store with a live cd and ask to test them out
[01:25] <DjViper> Hi, I've got a problem sharing files with windows computers using samba, its slow
[01:25] <LjL> ryanakca: nevermind, it should
[01:25] <PriceChild> if they don't let you... you REALLY don't want to be buying from that store
[01:25] <PriceChild> brohken: ^
[01:25] <brohken> PriceChild, thanks but I wanted to see if anyone had some experience with one already
[01:26] <brohken> im sure there is someone in this room running ubuntu on a laptop with good things to say
[01:26] <brohken> i'd just like to know the model and how much they paid
[01:26] <brohken> heh
[01:26] <foo> foob: Back off my foo hizzl'
[01:27] <leachizzle> ianthepetrock~ im linkincable@gmail.com i intived you for a chat
[01:27] <ianthepetrock> i got it
[01:27] <brohken> do laptops with Nvidia cards tend to work right out of the box?
[01:28] <sc0tt> yes brohken
[01:28] <PriceChild> brohken: I would get Nvidia above all else
[01:28] <brohken> i noticed the dell I wanted will work... but I need to change alot to make it work with the ati card
[01:28] <evil_> My flash objects in Firefox don't have sound...Is this a documented problem?
[01:28] <sc0tt> i'd go nvidia
[01:28] <brohken> which kind of sucks. im not too good with command line
[01:28] <PriceChild> evil_: there's a wiki entry on it
[01:28] <PriceChild> evil_: one second
[01:28] <evil_> kk..
[01:28] <brohken> what exactly does it mean to mount something?
[01:28] <LjL> ryanakca: try this, for some reason your version doesn't seem to work here: ldd /usr/local/kde/bin/kssh | awk ' { print $1 } ' | xargs -n 1 basename | xargs -n 1 apt-file search
[01:29] <PriceChild> evil_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c3
[01:29] <evil_> Thanks
[01:29] <PriceChild> scroll to the bottom
[01:29] <LjL> ryanakca: (one thing is that apt-file doesn't store the leading "/" in filenames, so if ldd gives you results that include that, it won't work -- then it's also not working for some other reason probably related to newlines)
[01:29] <PriceChild> evil_: well not bottom... but bottom of hte section
[01:29] <evil_> kk
[01:30] <LjL> ryanakca: see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoDeb - i've done that sort of thing in the past as you can see =)
[01:30] <Vessquire> I've got an ubuntu server... I want to use it to share folders that will show up (through avahi/zeroconf/however) in the Finder on the mac machines on the network... anyone have any ideas?   I've seen tutorials for shared music libraries, but nothing for shared folders
[01:31] <green_earz> brohken: say you mount a cd disk it then becomes part of the filing system,
[01:31] <philo23> hey, i'm having problems using frostwire/limewire
[01:31] <n2diy> can I configure Nautilus to archive files and directories recursively?
[01:31] <brohken> green_earz, thanks.
[01:31] <green_earz> np
[01:31] <brohken> last question for now: does anyone know off the top of their heads any laptops that come with nvidia cards?
[01:32] <philo23> hey, i'm having problems using frostwire/limewire, it apears java isnt working, i just get a grey screen, but i know java is working, so i dont know whats up, i've checked the version
[01:32] <noiesmo> philo23, are you running compiz or beryl ?
[01:32] <philo23> noiesmo: yes, does that effect it?
[01:32] <brohken> what does this mean: Video (ATI x1300 and most other new ATI)
[01:32] <brohken> **For Edgy Follow this how to:**
[01:32] <brohken> 1. FIRST DOWNLOAD THE ATI DRIVER AT THE FOLLOWING HOW TO AND CHMOD IT TO BE EXECUTABLE USING +x, THEN RUN IT AS ROOT AND INSTALL THE DRIVERS FIRST.
[01:33] <islan> when I try to run ./configure, I keep getting this message:  checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[01:33] <islan> is something wrong with my gcc and should I get another version of it?
[01:33] <fokuslee> supernoob question:  How do i kill man after i open the manual in terminal? ^C does not work for me ^Z suspend it but can't kill the prcoess with kill PID
[01:33] <LjL> Ubotu, tell islan about build-essential | islan, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:33] <PriceChild> islan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:33] <brohken> chmod? isn't that chmod 777 or something?
[01:33] <noiesmo> philo23, I dont really know all I know is when I run beryl i get the blank screen if I run normal say metacity or kwin as Im on kde it works
[01:33] <PriceChild> LjL: too quick :P
[01:33] <islan> fokuslee, hit command :q
[01:34] <philo23> noiesmo: thanks, i'll try it out
[01:34] <LjL> brohken: "chmod +x filename" sets a file as executable
[01:34] <LjL> brohken: the octal notation isn't the only possible notation in chmod
[01:34] <LjL> Ubotu, tell brohken about permissions | brohken, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:34] <philo23> yep, it apears Beryl is doing something
[01:35] <angel12> hey guys, is anyone else having problems using gaim right now? the stock one with edgy?
[01:35] <noiesmo> philo23, yeah I asked in beryl channel see if any one knows
[01:35] <clemyeats> brohken: the octal notation is to set, use the letters to "modify"
[01:35] <brohken> ohhh thanks
[01:35] <Shadow_mil> how can I get nautilus to see dirs mounted with FUSE?
[01:35] <brohken> one LAST LAST thing and I swear I'll leave
[01:35] <LjL> clemyeats: that's not really true. it's really just a matter of preferences: you can "set" using the letters, as well.
[01:36] <clemyeats> LjL: I know.. I didn't want to confuse him too much :)
[01:36] <PriceChild> brohken: we'll "allow" you to stay :P
[01:36] <clemyeats> LjL: I wrote an article on that.. let me find the link..
[01:36] <brohken> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684 can you take a look at this site and tell me if a noob could follow those commands and instructions? i'm planning to run edgy
[01:36] <philo23> noiesmo: thanks mate
[01:36] <fokuslee> islan: wut do u mean? like i don't want to close the terminal only return to #
[01:36] <noiesmo> philo23, np it's a bit annoying having to switch thou
[01:37] <clemyeats> brohken: http://www.linuxforums.org/security/file_permissions.html that should explain everything :)
[01:37] <islan> fokuslee, while in man, type in a colon followed by a q
[01:37] <islan> fokuslee, like this :q
[01:37] <brohken> clemyeats, its a seperate topic
[01:37] <fokuslee> oh ok
[01:37] <fokuslee> yhahah
[01:37] <fokuslee> sorri i thought dat was a funny face
[01:37] <fokuslee> lmfao
[01:38] <islan> heh, sry, nope
[01:38] <clemyeats> brohken: well, you asked about file permissions..
[01:38] <brohken> clemyeats, just take a quick look and tell me if it should be easy enough
[01:38] <fokuslee> well thx
[01:38] <gaurav19> Hi, I have three partitions on a system running windows XP Pro. Can I install ubuntu without causing any damage to the windows installation
[01:38] <dust> I've got both the vlc and the totem plugins installed in firefox as well as the w32codecs, but when I open pages with wmv movies like this one http://politiken.dk/poltv/?ExtID=1237 it just says (no movie)..
[01:38] <un_operateur1> !dual-boot
[01:38] <brohken> clemyeats, that was before... someone already sent me a message regarding that
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual-boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <PriceChild> gaurav19: you "can"... however defrag your drives before attempting resizing
[01:38] <un_operateur1> !dualboot
[01:38] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:38] <dust> weird thing is, in vlc the movies play just fine if I dig for the url manually
[01:38] <clemyeats> brohken: ok no pb.
[01:39] <PriceChild> gaurav19: backup ALL important data
[01:39] <eutu> i can boot as root but cant boot my user account
[01:39] <brohken> clemyeats, thanks
[01:39] <noiesmo> philo23, beryl people know they are working on it :)
[01:39] <PriceChild> eutu: could you explain further please?
[01:39] <philo23> yay
[01:40] <eutu> i try to boot but goes only as far as the splash screen just before loading the desktop then stops
[01:40] <clemyeats> gaurav19: yes, but make sure to backup your data in case you make a mistake.. partitions are called differently in linux than in windows.
[01:40] <jk_> is there a way to have Gnome and KDE installed on the same system and select between the t2o?
[01:40] <ryanakca> LjL: lots :P
[01:41] <ryanakca> LjL: two dozen at least
[01:41] <PriceChild> jk_: yes... sudo aptitude install (x/k)ubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <PriceChild> jk_: you can then choose between them from the "sessions" menu on gdm
[01:41] <PriceChild> (or kdm)
[01:41] <ryanakca> LjL: no?
[01:41] <PriceChild> eutu: what exact point does it halt?
[01:41] <gaurav19> Thanks for the advice, PriceChild. I will back up the data. I do not need to resize. I have three partitions - C(20), D(20) and F(120) in GB. D is completely blank, I was thinking of creating the swap and "/" or root mount points on D which is blank as of now. I guess thats doable
[01:41] <PriceChild> gaurav19: good luck
[01:42] <sindrum> having trouble removing directory, i used rmdir command and this is telling me No such file or directory, any ideas?
[01:42] <gaurav19> I mean to say should not cause any problem.
[01:42] <PriceChild> sindrum: sure its a dir, and that it exists?
[01:42] <eutu> as soon as the small screen that shows the small icons
[01:42] <ryanakca> LjL: now I just need to figure out which ones are usefull... php-doc is definitly not required...
[01:42] <ryanakca> brohken: I'd stay away from dell, btw...
[01:42] <ryanakca> brohken: unless you don't mind paying an extra 50-100$ on something you'll delete as soon as you get... (w**d**s)
[01:42] <ryanakca> xargs: unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option
[01:42] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, you still need to split D up into two partitions -- for swap and /
[01:42] <brohken> any specific reason?
[01:42] <ryanakca> LjL: well... d'you have kssh?
[01:43] <ryanakca> ah
[01:43] <ryanakca> here, LjL, I'll /msg you what I need solved
[01:43] <gaurav19> thanks, but do you foresee problems or may be I am a bit paranoid here, I have heard people messing up things
[01:43] <clayg> what is the name of the package for google earth?
[01:43] <clayg> i thought it was google-earth
[01:43] <sindrum> yes its a directory and i do see it on my desktop and in the command prompt.... im lost?
[01:43] <clayg> but cannot find it anywhere in synaptic
[01:43] <clayg> does anyone know?
[01:43] <PriceChild> gaurav19: you shouldn't have any problems... just make sure you use the correct drives ;)
[01:43] <ryanakca> brohken: no, chmod +x filename
[01:43] <PriceChild> gaurav19: most problems come when resizing...
[01:43] <brohken> ryanakca, recommend me something
[01:44] <brohken> ryanakca, what? what about it?
[01:44] <ryanakca> would running "modinfo scsi_mod" break a system?
[01:44] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, well, Its kinda tricky -- is D: on the same disk as the other two partitions?
[01:44] <Newbie> how do you change to super user on terminal?
[01:44] <gaurav19> Hi un_operateur1, yes I am aware of that, is that something Ubuntu will manage or should i use partition magic for creating the swap partition - i.e split the 20Gb into 19 and 1 or whatever the software permits
[01:44] <un_operateur1> Newbie, sudo su
[01:44] <PriceChild> Newbie: sudo su
[01:44] <gaurav19> Yes on the same disk
[01:44] <Newbie> thx
[01:44] <PriceChild> Newbie: please read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:45] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, and is D: sandwiched in between the other two?
[01:45] <clemyeats> gaurav19: is it an IDE disk ?
[01:45] <gaurav19> Yes, clemyeats, it is an IDE disk (master/primary)
[01:45] <clemyeats> gaurav19: then it's called /dev/hda in Linux.
[01:45] <gaurav19> You are right, un_operateur1 the order is C,D,F
[01:46] <clemyeats> gaurav19: your C is most likely /dev/hda1
[01:46] <ryanakca> ASUS, Toshiba?
[01:46] <ryanakca> brohken: what do you want me to recommend?
[01:46] <gaurav19> ok
[01:46] <ScreaminIke> uhm. lets say i ran a script to change ubuntu into "Ubuntu Christian Edition" and now... firefox AND lynx are crippled. wget still works, though, so i've worked out a crude method of browsing the web one wget-ed link at a time. is there a way to fix this situation?
[01:46] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, I think you'll have to split D: into two within windows before going ahead to install ubuntu
[01:47] <sindrum> is there anyway to refresh my Desktop directory, i already tried rebooting, maybe this will get rid of the files?
[01:47] <ike_> Anyone know why fsck tells me I need to --rebuid-tree every boot despite the fact that I have --rebuilt all my partitions?
[01:47] <un_operateur1> and the way the partitions are laid out i think splitting D: is going to be quite tricky
[01:48] <gaurav19> Thats what I thought of doing with partition magic, just wanted to discuss with experts here as I was not too sure..
[01:48] <PriceChild> ScreaminIke: I saw this on the forums.... it installs an internet filter... which the creater doesn't quite know how to remove cleanly
[01:48] <clemyeats> gaurav19: anyhow, you can run the live CD without installing anything, and have a look at the partitioning tool in there to see if you recognize your partitions and learn their name in Linux
[01:48] <mikebot> so, when i tried to follow that pppoe walkthrough, i got an error when i did the command 'sudo pppoeconf'
[01:48] <Okt> Is there an easy way to get all of the desktop icons to be the same size?
[01:48] <Wiltre> I really could use some help.  I'm trying to install ubuntu on my machine (Currently on windows part) but the installer wont go.  I got live CD for 6.10 X86 computers.  Here's my problem, it will freeze when the orange bar fills.  So, I set up to go at 1024 and 32 bit.  It passed it to show me an error screen about XServer.  I know my comp can't run XServers, In GParted I need to use "Xvesa" or something that's a m
[01:48] <Wiltre> ini xserver.  Is it still possible for me to install 6.10???
[01:48] <ScreaminIke> PriceChild, that's priceless. so now, what?
[01:49] <un_operateur1> if it were me -- i'd try partitioning D: within Windows's Disk management utility
[01:49] <MeneK> Hi everybody. I just broke my fonts testing kubuntu-desktop. Now they look too much bold and blurry... What can I do? Thanks!
[01:49] <mikebot> when i did 'pppoeconf' and it tried to do something after i clicked 'yes' ig ot an error which read: 'Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access COntroller of your provoder did not respond...'
[01:49] <PriceChild> ScreaminIke: I never saw a solution... the guy just reccomended a reinstall sorry :(
[01:49] <PriceChild> ScreaminIke: you could do a quick search of the Ubuntu CE forums?
[01:49] <gaurav19> Sure clemyeats, thanks for that.
[01:50] <clemyeats> gaurav19: you're welcome :)
[01:50] <ScreaminIke> that's fantastic. cuz i already started (over dialup) to download the Ubuntu CE iso
[01:50] <mikebot> anyone know how to get dsl working on ubuntu?
[01:50] <Wiltre> I really could use some help.  I'm trying to install ubuntu on my machine (Currently on windows part) but the installer wont go.  I got live CD for 6.10 X86 computers.  Here's my problem, it will freeze when the orange bar fills.  So, I set up to go at 1024 and 32 bit.  It passed it to show me an error screen about XServer.  I know my comp can't run XServers, In GParted I need to use "Xvesa" or something that's a m
[01:50] <Wiltre> ini Xserver.  Can I install Ubuntu without Xserver using a mini version or something? I have an ati x700 card.
[01:50] <gaurav19> I just found this: http://www.hevnikov.com/blog/2006/11/13/triple-boot-xp-vista-ubuntu-with-single-boot-screen/
[01:50] <ScreaminIke> i'll see if i can haxor- 31337 browse them
[01:51] <gaurav19> That seems quite comprehensive. I believe you guys would have seen this before. Is this good ?
[01:51] <MeneK> ( you can see how my fonts look now at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320125 )
[01:52] <sindrum> ok iv figured out what to do to get that directory to delete... sudo rm -r (filename)
[01:52] <MeneK> hey Wiltre
[01:52] <MeneK> i have also an Ati X700 card
[01:52] <elaine_> Is it possible to convert server into desktop?  It's working as a desktop, ubuntu-desktop and all but, when I upgraded to 6.10 it installed the server kernel automatically
[01:52] <Wiltre> MeneK: And it ran fine?
[01:52] <MeneK> I don't now if you have the same prob
[01:53] <Curs0r> hehehe more beryl fiending http://123pichosting.com/images/2614Screenshot-4.png
[01:53] <MeneK> but to start X you must change the driver in xorg.conf
[01:53] <mikebot> actually, if anyone can tell me how tog et my hauppauge card working in ubuntu, that would be great
[01:53] <MeneK> try changing "ati" to "radeo"
[01:53] <MeneK> "radeon" sorry
[01:53] <mikebot> OK, well, I guess I'llt ry back later. Bye all.
[01:54] <Wiltre> MeneK: Where is this .conf? I'm on windows right now since hte live wont even run
[01:54] <LjL> MeneK: i can't look at the screenshot because it requires an account. however, you might want to try going (in KDE) to System Settings / Appearance / Fonts / Anti-aliasing and set Hinting to Full
[01:54] <sindrum> elaine_: nice desktop how does it run?
[01:54] <fokuslee> ? wiltre did u dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg?
[01:54] <elaine_> sindrum, it runs fine.
[01:54] <sindrum> sorry i ment curs0r...
[01:55] <Wiltre> fokuslee: Where! My computer wont run at all.  When I do the ubuntu live CD it just hangs and gives me an XServer error
[01:55] <elaine_> sindrum, it's just a pain that I have to manually install a new kernel if I upgrade
[01:55] <siloe> Helllo!!!  Make cfdisk create hda6 and hda7 after mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda6 "error  not have hda6"
[01:55] <elaine_> sindrum, because I used ubuntu server cd at the start
[01:55] <MeneK> the Xorg conf file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:55] <Curs0r> sindrum, it's smooth as glass
[01:55] <Wiltre> How can I change it if my livecd wont even go?
[01:55] <eegore> Could someone help me figure out why I cannot control the sound level of different apps even though I am running alsa
[01:56] <eegore> I am running dapper
[01:56] <MeneK> wiltre: get to a tty , presing ctrl+alt+F2
[01:56] <MeneK> then type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:56] <Wiltre> So CTRL+ALT+F2 at boot screen... then edit my xorg.conf
[01:56] <raavi> what apps are those
[01:57] <raavi> eegore: what apps are those
[01:57] <MeneK> wiltre: just after getting the X error
[01:57] <MeneK> look for the "Device" section
[01:57] <Wiltre> MeneK Alright; going.
[01:57] <sindrum> curs0r: What is gpu do you use?
[01:57] <Curs0r> 7800gtx
[01:57] <eegore> raavi: xmms, teamspeak, Skype, and UT2004
[01:57] <jpjacobs> siloe, try rebooting first. it's sometimes needed to have the kernel read the partitiontables
[01:57] <MeneK> Section "Device"       Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X700 (RV410)"
[01:57] <MeneK>         Driver          "radeon"
[01:58] <jpjacobs> !paste|MeneK
[01:58] <ubotu> MeneK: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:58] <jpjacobs> sorry i thought you were going to paste more :p
[01:58] <MeneK> ok! thanks!
[01:59] <Faar> Where could I find the log for what happens after Grub stars the system? (I get some "PCI error..")?
[01:59] <jpjacobs> Faar, dmesg?
[02:00] <jpjacobs> or /var/log/...
[02:00] <MeneK> <Wiltre: The  device section should look like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37478/
[02:00] <Faar> jpjacobs : I'l have a look
[02:00] <jpjacobs> try grep -ir "PCI error" /var/log/*
[02:01] <brohken> ryanakca, a laptop
[02:01] <MeneK> Ljl: I have unistalled kubuntu-desktop.
[02:01] <fokuslee> damn neighbor stealing my internet again
[02:02] <ryanakca> brohken: I'd go for ASUS... if not them, then Toshiba...
[02:02] <ryanakca> brohken: stay away from Dell & HP though... (if you don't want to waste money on windows)
[02:02] <jpjacobs> brohken, i've got an older toshiba laptop here, and i'm very happy with it :)
[02:02] <mon^rch> whats the name of the KDE IRC client again?
[02:03] <fokuslee> kubuntu
[02:03] <Shadow_mil> how can I install KDE?
[02:03] <Fleebailey33> konversation
[02:03] <mon^rch> ty
[02:03] <jpjacobs> ryanakca, dell does sell without windows... after some pushing
[02:03] <shorty114> ryanakca, can't you get your money back on the XP?
[02:03] <Fleebailey33> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <dynamo> mon^rch, Konversation
[02:03] <Shadow_mil> Fleebailey33: that messes up a lot of things like my boot splash
[02:03] <brohken> ryanakca, the reason I am even considering it is because of this deal: http://www.gotapex.com/
[02:03] <brohken> its soo cheap
[02:04] <angel12> hey guys, ive got what seems to be a major network problem. whenever i try to apt-get something, i get a cannot find archive.ubuntu.com, but when i ping it, its there, and then apt-get works. then whenever i try to connect to irc in xchat, i have to ping irc.freenode.net first, otherwise it sees irc.freenode.net as 1.0.0.0
[02:04] <brohken> and spec wise it's pretty nice
[02:04] <dynamo> Shadow_mil, you can put your bootsplash back
[02:04] <fokuslee> angel12 u have dns problem
[02:04] <Shadow_mil> dynamo: how?
[02:04] <ryanakca> jpjacobs: they do? I tried getting it without windows but they said I couldn't...
[02:04] <angel12> fokuslee, any idea how to fix it? i figured thats what it was
[02:05] <fokuslee> echo "nameserver wuteveruhave" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[02:05] <jpjacobs> ryanakca, i heard some people who had it done...
[02:05] <dynamo> Shadow_mil, hang on
[02:05] <fokuslee> angel12 if ur on router is probably the same as ur router gateway
[02:05] <angel12> fokuslee, so i just put my router ip in quotes?
[02:05] <fokuslee> yeah
[02:06] <Shadow_mil> I think it also messes up my login screen
[02:06] <fokuslee> just replace wuteveruhave with router ip
[02:06] <evil_> How do I get access to /var/lib/tor?
[02:06] <ryanakca> jpjacobs: hmm...
[02:06] <angel12> fokuslee, just tried it with sudo and i get a permission denied
[02:06] <pantera> hi
[02:07] <fokuslee> interesting can u nano or vi it?
[02:07] <fokuslee> and see wut it has?
[02:07] <dynamo> Shadow_mil, $sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[02:07] <Shadow_mil> dynamo: thanks
[02:07] <dynamo> yw
[02:07] <evil_> How do I get access to /var/lib/tor?
[02:08] <dynamo> evil_, with sudo?
[02:08] <MeneK> Shadow_mil: be aware!
[02:08] <angel12> fokuslee, yeah, there was the ip for my router and some random ip that i have never seen before in there for nameserver
[02:08] <fokuslee> angel12 well thats ur problem change it back
[02:08] <fokuslee> can u?
[02:08] <evil_> dynamo, anyway..It sys I dont have the neccesary permissions
[02:08] <fokuslee> im not too familair with ubuntu
[02:08] <fokuslee> sudo ?
[02:08] <MeneK> better user aptitude
[02:08] <fokuslee> i forgot how to get real root
[02:08] <dynamo> sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[02:08] <fokuslee> u mite have to do ddat
[02:09] <dynamo> that's all
[02:09] <angel12> fokuslee, ok, i did, and now apt-get update is still lookin at 1.0.0.0
[02:09] <MeneK> Shadow_mil: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[02:09] <dynamo> !tell fokuslee about sudo
[02:09] <Defend> omg hanovers suck
[02:10] <fokuslee> angel12 sorri i dono then
[02:10] <angel12> fokuslee, to get reall root you have to sudo passwd root, then put in the password
[02:10] <matju> if i use a KDE app with the GNOME desktop, how do i get to configure the global KDE settings (for my user) so that, e.g. the app doesn't use "system sounds" ?
[02:10] <angel12> fokuslee, well thanks tho
[02:10] <fokuslee> can u broswe webpage now?
[02:10] <Wiltre> ALright, didn't work at all.  I edited the xorg.conf;  But I had no idea what to do after
[02:10] <MeneK> you should restard gdm
[02:10] <camh> I've got a 6.06 i386 install with a custom built kernel. I've just got a Core 2 Duo which I was going to put in the same box. My plan was to rebuild the kernel for this Processor/MB - Will this work, or do I need a new 64bit userland?
[02:11] <angel12> fokuslee, yeah, i can browse all day and night, but connecting to irc and apt-get repo's gets hung up
[02:11] <fokuslee> grr aye good luck
[02:11] <usr_rob> I installed redhat artwork, the only thing that dont work is the blue pixmap on hover, any suggestions?
[02:11] <MeneK> Wiltre: try "sudo killall gdm" and later "sudo gdm"
[02:12] <fokuslee> Menek i think u want to use gdm stop
[02:12] <Wiltre> MeneK: So! Reboot, set vga to 1024 32, Get error, Push keycommand (I forget, I just pushed everything in the area), Edit the xorg.conf, sudo killall gdm then sudo gdm, then will the screen still be black?
[02:12] <pantera> hallo together, do someone know, howto become a background splash screen at console, without recompile the kernel or something like that? I use ubuntu edgy.
[02:12] <MeneK> fokuslee: yeah
[02:13] <fokuslee> Wiltre are u trying to use glx?
[02:13] <MeneK> Wiltre: that's what I did to get Ubuntu work with my x700, yes
[02:13] <fokuslee> i suggest u use vesa driver frist
[02:13] <fokuslee> get gui first
[02:13] <iain> What video card brand works best with Linux?
[02:13] <fokuslee> and follow tseilot guide on installing ati driver
[02:13] <Wiltre> NVidia
[02:14] <craigbass1976> I read the forums for a piece of accounting software similar to Quickbooks.  Gnucash is not it, but I found some reference to quasar, and a way to instal it with apt.  I can't get it to work though.
[02:14] <Ralith> iain, nvidia by far
[02:14] <craigbass1976> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200563&page=2&highlight=accounting+software
[02:14] <Ralith> iain, if you don't mind closed-source drivers, at least
[02:14] <MeneK> Not ATI, for sure
[02:14] <Wiltre> fokuslee: How do I use Vesa??? I know it works since that's what I use on gparted
[02:14] <l3mr> iain: actually, intels work nice, but the cards are crap. between ati and nvidia, it's a no brainer. ati linux support sux
[02:14] <iain> Ralith: The games I play are closed-source, so I'm going to go ahead with it
[02:14] <Ralith> heh
[02:14] <Ralith> yeah
[02:14] <craigbass1976> how do you list the apps in a repo?
[02:14] <Ralith> nvidia's the best for gaming, period
[02:15] <Ralith> and intel /is/ pretty good if you don't need any performance whatsoever
[02:15] <Ralith> you get the most out of the card, and have oss drivers, but the most is very, very little :P
[02:15] <iain> That's too bad because I've got a best buy $50 card but BB doesn't sell low-end nVidia
[02:15] <Ralith> runs beryl at about 70fps, which is nice
[02:15] <craigbass1976> I remember trying to install ardour for an hour before I realized that I wanted ardour-gtk or something, and not just plain ardour
[02:15] <Gumby> considering that neither ATI or nVidia offer anything but proprietary drivers I fail to see how anyone can say that one is better than the other
[02:15] <MeneK> write "vesa" instead of "ati" or "radeon" in the Driver line of the device section of xorg.conf
[02:15] <Wiltre> hOW DO I USE VESA DRIVERS???
[02:15] <Wiltre> Caps
[02:15] <Wiltre> Menek: Alright.  I'll write vesa, then what
[02:15] <Wiltre> Menek: how do I get it to relaunch the disc
[02:15] <Ralith> iain, lemme take a look for you; assuming yer not broke, a little more should be fine
[02:15] <kapace> restart xorg?
[02:15] <Ralith> iain, agp or pcie?
[02:15] <pantera> bye
[02:16] <iain> Ralith: Hmm lemme check their site
[02:16] <l3mr> Gumby: ati's drivers are a pain in the ass to setup. nvidia's are closed source too, but a lot more userfriendly
[02:16] <iain> Oh bollocks, it's PCI
[02:16] <christy> hi im trying to help my dad though a ubuntu instal over the phone... he has windows on hda and wants ubuntu on hdb... the install after selecfting to install on hdb doesnt bring up anything about grub.. i want to make sure /dev/hda1 will be an option to boot his windows.. any help.. tough cause i cant see it :)
[02:16] <iain> That's probably not good.
[02:16] <Ralith> iain, you might even be able to afford one of the 7k series
[02:16] <Ralith> er
[02:16] <Ralith> you have a pci connector?
[02:16] <Gumby> l3mr: Ive never had an issue following the instructions for ATI.
[02:17] <Wiltre> MeneK: How do I reboot the disc with vesa still being in effect?
[02:17] <Ralith> I don't think you can find a PCI video card anywhere but an auction site :P
[02:17] <Ralith> or used computer place
[02:17] <MeneK> Wiltre: once xorg.conf is edited and saved, restart gdm. I used the "hard" way: killall & then gdm again
[02:17] <Ralith> or junk yard.
[02:17] <iain> Ralith: Of course, but I should probably get a better card
[02:17] <l3mr> Gumby: lucky you :)
[02:17] <Wiltre> Alright guys, brb trying this
[02:17] <iain> The fact it's PCI means it's quite old, right?
[02:17] <Ralith> yeah
[02:17] <Ralith> quite old
[02:18] <Ralith> have fun gaming on a machine like that :P
[02:18] <[sysex_ferrari] > found a bug in feisty, is there a bugtraq somewhere?
[02:18] <l3mr> iain: if it's plain pci, forget about getting a reasonable card for it. if it's pci-express, no problem
[02:18] <iain> Ralith: My machine is fine; my current card is a 7200
[02:18] <iain> So I'm looking to upgrade
[02:18] <Ralith> er
[02:18] <Ralith> then it's either AGP or PCIe
[02:18] <l3mr> iain: don't upgrade yet. wait till 8600 series is out
[02:18] <iain> Now I was going to buy it at Best Buy because I have a gift card, but I guess I won't do that.
[02:18] <Ralith> l3mr also has pretty good advice if you want good performance
[02:19] <iain> l3mr: 8600? That's an old card, isn't it?
[02:19] <kapace> if i installied python on ubuntu, where shouldi pu the shebang line to?
[02:19] <Ralith> the 8k series is really hardcore, and once the midrange models are out there, if you can afford them they'll be uber.
[02:19] <Ralith> iain, it's so new it doesn't exist yet >.<
[02:19] <[sysex_ferrari] > nevermind I'm retarded
[02:19] <l3mr> iain: no. 8xxx is the new nvidia architecture..
[02:19] <iain> l3mr: Oh, I was thinking ATI
[02:19] <Ralith> iain, I'm assuming you have a PCIe slot and don't realize it.
[02:19] <Soms> Arwen would like to know why he is banned, could an op message him; to stop him from asking in #wikipedia
[02:19] <iain> I have a Radeon 7200 ;-)
[02:20] <iain> Ralith: I have a PCIe slot, but I don't use it
[02:20] <Ralith> iain, why not?
[02:20] <l3mr> iain: i have to 8800 at uni, it's amazing but really expensive. soon, there will be a nvidia geforce 8600 or something, the same arch but mid-range priced. that's what you want. :)
[02:20] <iain> Ralith: Because my Radeon 7200 is PCI
[02:20] <ademan> what's a good hex editor for linux?
[02:20] <Ralith> ah.
[02:20] <Ralith> ademan, gui or console?
[02:20] <kapace> where does python bin in ubuntu?
[02:20] <iain> l3mr: Mid-range ~= $50?
[02:20] <Ralith> iain, that's low end :P
[02:20] <ademan> Ralith: GUI preferably but either will do
[02:20] <l3mr> ultra low end :/
[02:20] <iain> Ralith: Yeah, low-end is for me then
[02:20] <Ralith> iain, but it'll be a while before they come out anyway
[02:20] <Ralith> ademan, kde ok?
[02:21] <iain> You say low-end but it will run Doom 3 won't it?
[02:21] <ademan> Ralith: sure
[02:21] <Ralith> iain, doom 3 is old.
[02:21] <Ralith> ademan, khexedit :P
[02:21] <l3mr> iain: for gaming, you will need a card in the 200+ $ range
[02:21] <Ralith> apt-cache search hexedit for alternatives
[02:21] <Ralith> l3mr's right, if you want to run newish games
[02:21] <iain> I ran UT2k3 on my 7200 :P
[02:22] <l3mr> yeah but it's ancient :)
[02:22] <kapace> can these games work on ubuntu?
[02:22] <iain> I'm sure I can run UT2k7 on an X300, right?
[02:22] <Ralith> kapace, yeah
[02:22] <kapace> really!
[02:22] <l3mr> iain: not really.
[02:22] <kapace> i though all gmaes were made for windoze
[02:22] <Ralith> kapace, the doom, quake, and unreal tournament series all have linux support
[02:22] <iain> l3mr: how about a 9800?
[02:22] <kapace> nice
[02:22] <Ralith> iain, that's way worse :P
[02:23] <l3mr> iain: ut2k7 is not even out yet, i think it'll be dx10...
[02:23] <Ralith> 9800s are HORRENDOUS
[02:23] <Ralith> kapace, some others do too, like NWN
[02:23] <Ralith> at least, NWN1 did
[02:23] <Ralith> iain, go nvidia if yer upgrading
[02:23] <Ralith> you don't want to deal with ATI
[02:23] <Ralith> trust me
[02:23] <iain> Ralith: My friend runs UT2k4 at 1600x1200 with all quality settings enabled on a 9800Pro and it looks and runs great
[02:23] <Sublimal-> No, ati will just get u in to trubble
[02:23] <Ralith> iain, yeah, it's great until it starts crashing
[02:23] <l3mr> iain: yeah but ut2k4 is 2 years old. ancient :)
[02:24] <Sublimal-> Hi, every1
[02:24] <MeneK> ati is really a pain
[02:24] <Sublimal-> i got a huge problem
[02:24] <Erb> Hi, how do I open GVim? I installed it but it didn't appear in the Applications menu (I am obviously new to Linux).
[02:24] <Ralith> iain, mine died in about a month; I have a friend who ran through 3 of them before he stopped asking for replacements.
[02:24] <iain> l3mr: If a 9800Pro can run UT2k4, I thought an X300 would handle UT2k7
[02:24] <Ralith> Erb, if it's really not in the menu, hit alt-f2 and enter 'gvim' and hit return
[02:24] <Ralith> iain, you do not want an ATI card
[02:24] <Ralith> got it?
[02:25] <Gumby> iain: honestly, if you can read instructions there is nothing wrong with ATI.  you have to jump through a few hoops to get either driver installed as they are both closed source.  saying one is easier/better than the other is nonsense
[02:25] <Ralith> iain, their drivers are slow, update slowly, rarely support the latest X, unstable....
[02:25] <l3mr> iain: ut2k7 will probably only run well on the newt ati generation. and x300 is a low-end model, which means  even play current games will be slow
[02:25] <iain> I'm just making an analogy; I meant to demonstrate that a $50 card can run modern games
[02:25] <Sublimal-> My quake 3 wount go fullscreen, its just a big black border around quake 3, i have edited the xorg.conf and added more modelines, but i doesnt work
[02:25] <Ralith> Gumby, not true.
[02:25] <Sublimal-> anyone ?
[02:25] <Gumby> Ralith: its completely true.
[02:25] <Ralith> Gumby, ATI's support for OpenGL (the only option on Linux) is crappy
[02:25] <l3mr> iain: well depends on your definition of modern :)
[02:25] <Ralith> Gumby, look at any performance comparison; ATI always does better on directx games, nvidia on opengl
[02:25] <Ralith> whatever the OS.
[02:25] <Nippoo> hm, I've been asked to program a piece of database software for a company (to manage clients, make bookings, get payments, etc...) what language should I use? (a bit like Heritage, the library cataloguing software, y'know?)
[02:25] <deep`> !system-tools-backends
[02:25] <iain> l3mr: UT2k7 is on my list
[02:26] <ubotu> system-tools-backends: System Tools to manage computer configuration -- scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 151 kB, installed size 692 kB
[02:26] <Ralith> and nvidia actually has thorough support of their linux drivers, too
[02:26] <Ralith> iain, for that you need an expensive card.
[02:26] <Megaqwerty> I've followed the guides from ubuntu, but I still can't watch/listen to streaming video/audio
[02:26] <iain> Ralith: Damn ;-)
[02:26] <craigbass1976> Ok, I give up on quasar.  Anyone ever used sql-ledger?
[02:26] <Ralith> Gumby, ATI, for example, tends to lag quite a ways behind Xorg releases, whereas you can rely on nvidia being up to date.
[02:26] <Sublimal-> My quake 3 wount go fullscreen, its just a big black border around quake 3, i have edited the xorg.conf and added more modelines, but i doesnt work, i could realy nead som help, anyone ?
[02:26] <MeneK> how I get AIGLX to work with ATi? I think Xgl is the only option
[02:26] <Megaqwerty> Can anyone help me figure out what is wrong?
[02:26] <Sublimal-> please, help
[02:26] <Erb> Ralith, thanks, that worked, however, is there a way so that GVim can be included as a shortcut?
[02:26] <Ralith> Erb, gnome?
[02:27] <l3mr> Ralith: well, both suck, but nvidia does so less
[02:27] <Erb> Yes
[02:27] <Ralith> l3mr, ehh, is nvidia actually bad?
[02:27] <iain> Both suck?  Well don't hold your breath for a card that doesn't
[02:27] <Ralith> l3mr, I was under the impression that their stuff was up to scratch, except for the closedness
[02:27] <illusina> I think a recent update broke my sound sound, as when I look at my system tray it appears I have no sounds cards.
[02:27] <Ralith> iain, it's the drivers, not the cards
[02:27] <Sublimal-> ...
[02:27] <l3mr> Ralith: well, encrypted drivers suck.
[02:27] <Gumby> Ralith: in the range of card that iain is talking about its not going to make a damn of difference
[02:27] <Ralith> l3mr, ah.
[02:27] <illusina> dmesg gives me messages like: snd_emu10k1: Unknown symbol snd_rawmidi_receive
[02:28] <Megaqwerty> I've followed the guides from ubuntu, but I still can't watch/listen to streaming video/audio'
[02:28] <Ralith> Gumby, it most certainly will.
[02:28] <Ralith> Gumby, for example, if he gets a 9800, it'll die on him right off
[02:28] <Ralith> Gumby, and he'll have display problems every time X updates
[02:28] <Sublimal-> please, i have tried everything
[02:28] <haggard> i need help: when I try to update my sources.list file, it says "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found."
[02:28] <Gumby> a radeon 9800 for $50?
[02:29] <Ralith> Gumby, they're worth less than that.
[02:29] <l3mr> Sublimal-: do you have the resolution quake wants in xorg.conf?
[02:29] <Gumby> Ralith: Ive upgraded X multiple times in ubuntu and I havnt had a single problem
[02:29] <Ralith> Gumby, you must upgrade very slowly, or never use anything not in the official LTS repos.
[02:29] <Sublimal-> l3mr: yes, i have
[02:29] <ScreaminIke> so... basically, i'm dling the ubuntu ce cd. cuz they pwnt my system.
[02:29] <kapace> if my friend did apt-get install python
[02:30] <kapace> where is teh python bin?
[02:30] <Sublimal-> it works just fine in mandriva, arch, gentoo.. but in ubuntu it just doesnt
[02:30] <l3mr> Sublimal-: do you get any error message from the game?
[02:30] <ScreaminIke> btw, what's the irc equivalent of the sounder list?
[02:30] <Sublimal-> no
[02:30] <Sublimal-> i seems to work fine
[02:30] <prower> Hello :> Anyone here using beryl and edgy together with positive results?
[02:30] <Virtuall> prower, yes
[02:30] <Sublimal-> it just wont get fullscreen
[02:30] <ScreaminIke> what is beryl?
[02:30] <Sublimal-> i get a huge black border
[02:31] <Sublimal-> and the game moves to the left corner of the screen
[02:31] <Gumby> lmao @ ralith.  lets see, upgrade slowly...  hrm, nope.. running feisty.  anything not in the official repos.. wrong again.
[02:31] <Virtuall> ScreaminIke, www.beryl-project.org
[02:31] <l3mr> Sublimal-: if it's the same version of X, try backup up your xorg.conf and use one of the working systems
[02:31] <l3mr> Sublimal-: maybe that helps
[02:31] <prower> Virtuall: Cool...not too bad stability-wise then
[02:31] <Sublimal-> u think ?
[02:31] <Sublimal-> but, i got the same modelines
[02:31] <l3mr> Sublimal-: and make sure you use the same driver version
[02:31] <Sublimal-> the same driver
[02:32] <Megaqwerty> can someone help me with getting streaming video to play?
[02:32] <Virtuall> prower, well it does have some problems... i'd actually say it's pretty unusable, but it works
[02:32] <craigbass1976> Hey, I've got apache installed but there's no httpd in /etc/init.d to start, stop, or restart.  Is it somewhere else?
[02:32] <Gumby> you cant even get a decent radeon 9800 on ebay for $50.  /me wonders what he is talking about
[02:32] <l3mr> Sublimal-: well there must be a difference somewhere, and switching the xorg.conf takes 3 mins, and maybe helps :)
[02:32] <Sublimal-> yes, the problem is, i dont have a xorg.conf from an earlier system :(
[02:32] <Megaqwerty> craigbass1976: try doing "locate init.d" in bash
[02:32] <prower> Virtuall: Oh...well that's kind of the opposite of what you said first ;>
[02:33] <deep`> what is "system-tools-backends"? Is there any app needing this? what happends if i kill it?
[02:33] <l3mr> Sublimal-: what card?
[02:33] <Sublimal-> i945
[02:33] <Sublimal-> intel
[02:33] <l3mr> hmm
[02:33] <Sublimal-> i got a laptop
[02:33] <Sublimal-> widescreen
[02:33] <Sublimal-> 1280x800
[02:33] <Megaqwerty>  can someone help me with getting streaming video to play?
[02:33] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: witch player do u use ?
[02:33] <Virtuall> prower, the results *are* positive. by positive you don't mean perfect, do you?
[02:33] <l3mr> Sublimal-: but it does use direct rendering?
[02:34] <Sublimal-> yes
[02:34] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: I'd like to use gxine, but anyone would work
[02:34] <Sublimal-> i works just fine
[02:34] <craigbass1976> Megaqwerty, init.d is in /etc, but there's not httpd in there.  Isn't apache the http daemon?  I'm looking for the httpd file.
[02:34] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: u got the right codecs ?
[02:34] <l3mr> Sublimal-: other opengl apps work fine?
[02:34] <Sublimal-> l3mr: no, the same problem there
[02:34] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: I used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#oneline
[02:34] <nightless> hello where is sources.list again?  and does anyone have a repository that has the new wine in it?
[02:34] <Megaqwerty> so they should be installed
[02:35] <prower> Virtuall: Well, positive for me would be working and not crashing, I guess ;>
[02:35] <Sublimal-> have u tried mplayer ? our vlc ?
[02:35] <Megaqwerty> craigbass1976: I don't know really anything about the Ubuntu server. I just knew a bash command to help you find files. Sorry.
[02:35] <l3mr> Sublimal-: hmm sorry, no idea :/. dpkg-reconfigure the xserver, other than that...:/
[02:35] <[sysex_ferrari] > anyone know when restricted-modules are coming for 2.6.20?
[02:35] <Sublimal-> ok :/
[02:35] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: I have all of those installed
[02:36] <haggard> when I try to update my sources.list file, it says "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found." Any ideas?
[02:36] <Sublimal-> crap, i realy like ubuntu, but if i cant get this to work, i just cant use it
[02:36] <bshaw> anyone on here know why LVM packages dont work with Edgy??
[02:36] <LjL> haggard: you have a line that says "htp:" instead of "http:"
[02:36] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: you help me, I'll try to help you
[02:36] <Sublimal-> ;)
[02:36] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: what's your problem?
[02:36] <Virtuall> prower, it doesn't crash... usually... it does however sometimes render windows all black but reloading it via tray menu helps. and it does also crash when launching opengl app, but i'm sure it's not ubuntu-related
[02:36] <haggard> LjL: I know
[02:36] <haggard> LjL: what can I do about it
[02:36] <Sublimal-> i cant get quake 3 in fullscreen, i only get a black border
[02:37] <LjL> haggard: ... change it to say http:?
[02:37] <Megaqwerty> hmm....
[02:37] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: do you have edgy?
[02:37] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: yes
[02:37] <Sublimal-> i doo
[02:37] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: ok...so having opengl shouldn't be the problem...
[02:37] <haggard> LjL: it does sasy http
[02:37] <haggard> say*
[02:37] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: What graphics card do you have?
[02:37] <LjL> haggard: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:38] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: I just need the manufacturer
[02:38] <Sublimal-> i945
[02:38] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: that's the name of the brand that makes your card?
[02:38] <craigbass1976> Megaqwerty, Doh!  the apache service is, oddly enough, called apache.
[02:38] <Sublimal-> Intel i945
[02:39] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: what format does the file have ?
[02:39] <Megaqwerty> @CRAIG: lol
[02:39] <Erb> how do i see a list of the users in a channel in xchat? it only shows the main window
[02:39] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: any format really, .wmv, .mov, .ogg, you name it, I can't stream it
[02:39] <nightless_> anywhere here use wine?
[02:39] <Sublimal-> not anything ?
[02:39] <haggard> LjL: http://code.bulix.org/23zjqp-26340?raw
[02:39] <Sublimal-> no music ?
[02:39] <Sublimal-> no movies ?
[02:40] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: Intel makes graphics cards ?
[02:40] <Sublimal-> yes, they do =)
[02:40] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: nothing streaming
[02:40] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: If the file is on my computer I can play it fine
[02:40] <StyXman> hi all. I have my system setup with the en_US.utf-8 locale, but I need to run an app under the en_US.iso-8859-1 locale. I know about setting the LANG envvar, but the problem is that I don't seem to have this locale and I don't know how to generate it. jfy, this is a dapper. any hints?
[02:40] <Sublimal-> hm, wierd
[02:40] <LjL> haggard: line 18. it says "deb-src htp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse"
[02:40] <Sublimal-> i look in to it, google a bit
[02:41] <haggard> LjL: ah, so it does. Totally missed it. Thanks!
[02:41] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: I'll do the same for your problem. My fix idea was for a nVIDIA graphics card.
[02:41] <LjL> haggard: besides, you really should add -updates and -security for universe and multiverse.
[02:41] <Megaqwerty> (i.e. dling the Beta Drivers)
[02:41] <StyXman> Megaqwerty: intel makes video chips, and embeds them in their chipsets which you can only find in intel mother boards
[02:42] <haggard> LjL: Yeah, I know. I just did a fresh install of ubuntu
[02:42] <Firebird> maybe you need to increase the width of the list Erb? (could be 0)... it's displayed on the right by default, see if it's there and drag it open if it is :)
[02:42] <LjL> haggard: ok
[02:42] <Megaqwerty> so I see
[02:42] <Stormx2> Yo. I tried to hibernate. Instead my PC just shut down. Now, when I boot, swap fails to initialize, and later is says it can't find the swap-space signiture. I'm under the impression that my swap space has therefore failed to load up. Any suggestions?
[02:42] <StyXman> the word has it that they have nice free-as-in-speech xorg 3d support
[02:43] <mortus>  #urban_exploration
[02:43] <Sublimal-> StyXman: yes, it works realy nice
[02:43] <StyXman> spam?
[02:43] <Erb> Firebird, I have the window maximized, there must be a way to show/hide?
[02:44] <StyXman> Erb: maximized or fullscreen?
[02:44] <iain> l3mr: You seem to think certain cards will break or crash.  Do you recommend any budget cards?
[02:44] <Sublimal-> StyXman: fullscreen, i get a black huge border
[02:44] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: did you get this: http://www.amazon.com/Quake-3-Arena-Linux/dp/B000046Q56 ?
[02:44] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: yes =)
[02:45] <buddhalover> hello world
[02:45] <Sublimal-> ehm
[02:45] <Sublimal-> no
[02:45] <l3mr> iain: no i don't think cards will..crash or break. it's just that driver-wise, i feel that nvidia is less of a hassle. but once everything is set up, ati will do as well as nvidia
[02:45] <Sublimal-> but i run the linux version
[02:45] <Erb> Actually, there is a users list in the bottom left corner, when i click it, it shows users. I wonder how I can get it to pin down
[02:45] <iain> l3mr: Oh, sorry, that must have been Ralith who said something about crashing.
[02:45] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: then I can say mwahahahahaa! Mainly because you can actually complain directly to the manufacturer and they will fix it.
[02:45] <Grand_Nagus> i just installed my pixmap engine and when i invoke gedit in terminal i still get a Gtk-error module-path for pixmap not found HELP!!
[02:45] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: they kinda have to.
[02:45] <Vessquire> Does anyone know how to share files and have the shares advertised on the local network though zeroconf/avahi/bonjour
[02:46] <l3mr> iain: the problem is more that in my opinion the low end cards are not worth buying. better buy a last-generation mid-range card second hand...
[02:46] <Sublimal-> but Megaqwerty , it works fine in suse, gentoo, arch mandriva, pclinuxos osv
[02:46] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: you've tried it?
[02:46] <Sublimal-> complain ?
[02:46] <StyXman> Vessquire: it's supposed to be automatic, but I never tried it
[02:46] <malt1> do i need to port forward port 25 for postfix to work to send a email?
[02:46] <iain> l3mr: Is there a budget card (or last gen mid range card) that won't go obsolete so fast I'll buy a new one in six months?
[02:46] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: I mean contact their technical support.
[02:47] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: ;) i think the problem is in ubuntu
[02:47] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: how did you install it?
[02:47] <StyXman> malt1: what are you trying to accomplish?
[02:47] <Sublimal-> i got the linux binary installer
[02:47] <malt1> StyXman phpbb and phpnuke site
[02:47] <Sublimal-> and installed it
[02:47] <malt1> email confirm
[02:47] <Vessquire> Styxman... I'm looking for the configuration I need to make in avahi to advertise the shares... or the sharing program (gshare, samba, etc.) that will register itself with avahi so that shares will be advertised
[02:47] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: what was the file extention? .deb?
[02:48] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: no, .run
[02:48] <l3mr> iain: the problem is that just about 3 weeks ago the first next-gen graphics card was released by nvidia. ati will release the new high-end model too, soon. but the only card good enough in 6 month is of this generation. better wait a bit ..
[02:48] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: wow, never seen that before.
[02:48] <Sublimal-> ;)
[02:48] <iain> l3mr: I guess I have bad timing.  I was waiting a bit to replace my 7200.
[02:48] <Sublimal-> maybe, its Xrandr that is fucked up
[02:49] <l3mr> iain: but if all the games you want to play are 1 or 2 years old, current cards will do fine. new games however...
[02:49] <StyXman> malt1: and your web server is behind a firewall?
[02:49] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: have you tried it on another distro on the same computer? Your graphics card may be the problem, not Ubuntu.
[02:49] <malt1> router
[02:49] <malt1> yep
[02:49] <malt1> www.m4lt.com
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Sublimal-: please watch your language
[02:49] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: (i.e. not meeting the requirements)
[02:49] <malt1> does mail service need port 25?
[02:49] <StyXman> malt1: and who's the mail exchange for your domain?
[02:49] <Sublimal-> gnomefreak: sry
[02:49] <l3mr> Sublimal-: i had an intel chip in my old laptop too, and 3d worked fine...
[02:49] <StyXman> malt1: it depends of direction
[02:49] <Sublimal-> yes
[02:49] <Sublimal-> 3d works fine
[02:49] <malt1> StyXman: i just need it to send email confim with phpbb and php nuke site
[02:50] <l3mr> Sublimal-: i mean, fine without the problems you describe.
[02:50] <StyXman> malt1: well, I think that means mails going out and replies going in
[02:50] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: ive tried another distros, and it works fine their
[02:50] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: try running glxgears
[02:50] <Megaqwerty> oh
[02:50] <iain> l3mr: Well I just played Nexuiz on a friend's PC and yes I'd like to play that.  It's kinda old I guess.  I might also get UT2k7.  I'm not a serious gamer, though, so I'd rather spend $200 on other PC components than a video card.
[02:50] <Megaqwerty> mkay...but try "glxgears" anyway.
[02:50] <StyXman> Vessquire: sorry, I have no clue
[02:50] <Sublimal-> it works fine
[02:50] <Sublimal-> the game starts
[02:50] <Megaqwerty> oh
[02:50] <Sublimal-> but it is not in fullscreen
[02:50] <Megaqwerty> so then what's your problem?
[02:51] <Megaqwerty> oh
[02:51] <StyXman> Sublimal-: tou said you get a black border?
[02:51] <Megaqwerty> ok. so do you see your desktop background with some black bars around it?'
[02:51] <Sublimal-> it is a big black border around the game, and it looks like it cant switch to 640x480 in fullscreen
[02:51] <Reilithion> Okay, I'm ssh'd into another computer on my network.  Can I start a graphical program on there and have it display on the computer I'm on now?
[02:51] <Reilithion> I seem to remember a $DISPLAY environment variable or something.
[02:51] <StyXman> Reilithion: logout and ssh -X
[02:52] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: can you take a screenshot?
[02:52] <StyXman> if your server has xforwarding on, you can run remote x apps seamlessly
[02:52] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: wait
[02:52] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: I can't really picture what it looks like
[02:52] <Sublimal-> ill try
[02:52] <l3mr> iain: i doubt ut2k7 will run well on current cards ( except gf8800 ), but since it's not out yet, this is just speculation
[02:52] <Megaqwerty> k
[02:52] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: then upload it here: http://imageshack.us/
[02:52] <iain> l3mr: Well OK I'll scratch it from my list.
[02:53] <Reilithion> StyXman: cool.  thanks
[02:53] <l3mr> Reilithion: you need to allow X-forward in your sshd config
[02:53] <iain> l3mr: For current games, how would a GF 7600 perform?  It's not the latest, but it has a nice price on Amazon.
[02:54] <StyXman> Reilithion: you can add the -C option for compression in reliable links
[02:54] <kishan> hi can any one help my azerus crashes when i open it
[02:54] <l3mr> iain: yeah the -600 series are usually the best price/performance ratio
[02:54] <nightless_> im trying to do sudo apt-get build-dep wine, but i get E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)    ? :(
[02:54] <Firebird> I have the same problem kishan :(. Do you use edgy?
[02:55] <kishan> yes firebird
[02:55] <l3mr> iain: [4567] 200 and so are crap, and [4567] 800 expensive
[02:55] <l3mr> :)
[02:55] <iain> l3mr: Thank you for your advice.  You have made me realize how little I know about games and their relation to hardware.
[02:55] <Firebird> you see it for a few seconds then it closes without an error message?
[02:55] <kishan> Firebird: yes same problem
[02:55] <Firebird> :s
[02:55] <m12> How can I remove the Totem mozilla extension without removing ubuntu-desktop (which synaptics wants to do?).   i want to use VLC for mozilla, but it won't do it because the Totem plugin is installed
[02:55] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: http://imageshack.us/
[02:55] <Sublimal-> whatta
[02:55] <StyXman> nightless_: add deb-src lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list, aptitude update, and then try again
[02:56] <l3mr> iain: yw :)
[02:56] <Willtre> Thanks guys, Ubuntu is up and running
[02:56] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quake3qh6.png
[02:56] <kishan> Firebird: which torrent client u using now
[02:56] <Megaqwerty> k...hold on
[02:56] <paranoia16> anyone know easy ways to "optimize" ubuntu?
[02:56] <dynamo> btdownload-gui
[02:56] <Firebird> kishan: I cheated :) I still use Azureus, but on another pc
[02:56] <nightless_> StyXman, ah thats right i forgot to update :P
[02:56] <john__> hello
[02:56] <kishan> Firebird: lol is that edgy too
[02:56] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: and, that looks like its on fullscreen for me, but i got a black border around the game
[02:57] <Firebird> no, it's dapper :)
[02:57] <kishan> Firebird: problems with emule too its too slow
[02:57] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: so you are saying that it doesn't look like the screenshot?
[02:57] <john__> hey i'm a brand new linux user, can anyone answer some questions
[02:57] <Megaqwerty> !anyone
[02:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:57] <StyXman> john__: just fire away
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> !ask
[02:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:58] <paranoia16> anyone know if i can make amorak auto update my idod? like itues syncs it i mean
[02:58] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: im saying, that i cant see the desktop, like it is on the picture, i can only see the black border
[02:58] <john__> well
[02:58] <buddhalover> can amorak rip this cd?
[02:58] <john__> I bought a begining Ubuntu linux book from barnes and noble
[02:58] <paranoia16> this cd?
[02:58] <john__> it has breezy badger
[02:58] <buddhalover> !ask
[02:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:58] <buddhalover> !anyone
[02:58] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:58] <john__> when i go to update manager... it says there are no updates
[02:59] <john__> why not?
[02:59] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: do u understand what i mean ?
[02:59] <john__> isn't there 6.10
[02:59] <gnomefreak> john__: click check
[02:59] <StyXman> john__: breezy is pretty old.
[02:59] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: My Grandparents just arrived at my house...sorry I couldn't get that worked out for you. I do have to leave, but before I do, one last suggestion: reboot after telling it to go fullscreen.
[02:59] <StyXman> john__: no, updates refers to security patches
[02:59] <gnomefreak> john__: did you use gksudo "update-manager -c"
[02:59] <paranoia16> can amorak auto sync my ipod?
[02:59] <john__> no... I am really new and trying to learn
[02:59] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: Bye =)
[02:59] <Megaqwerty> Sublimal-: also try changing the screen resolution
[02:59] <Sublimal-> Megaqwerty: i have tried that
[02:59] <Megaqwerty> (in options
[02:59] <StyXman> paranoia16: we heard you; no one seem to know
[02:59] <Megaqwerty> )
[02:59] <Sublimal-> doesnt work
[02:59] <MaseR> !
[03:00] <Megaqwerty> alright...well sorry again.
[03:00] <Sublimal-> gl hf to u to Megaqwerty
[03:00] <m12> Where do I go to change file extension associations?
[03:00] <Megaqwerty> gl hf?
[03:00] <paranoia16> whats the easist way to get my ipod to sync?
[03:00] <Sublimal-> Good Luck Have Fun
[03:00] <buddhalover> how to add dns servers using terminal?
[03:00] <Megaqwerty> oh, thanks!
[03:00] <Megaqwerty> bye
[03:00] <StyXman> buddhalover: edit /etc/resolv.conf\
[03:00] <Sublimal-> buddhalover: u edit /etc/resolv.conf
[03:00] <kishan> !gtkpod paranoia16
[03:00] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[03:01] <buddhalover> styxman and subliminal thank you. ;)
[03:01] <Willtre> !ati
[03:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:01] <Ffwater> !permissions
[03:01] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[03:02] <ryanakca> I have a notice / message above the login prompt on the vt(1-6)... (not after it, like the motd)... where is the file that contains it?
[03:02] <Ffwater> !read only
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about read only - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <Ffwater> !read write
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about read write - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <kishan> !ipod
[03:02] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[03:02] <LjL> !msg the bot | Ffwater
[03:02] <ubotu> Ffwater: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[03:02] <Ffwater> I need help changing my CD-RW/DVD-R properties to read/write =|
[03:02] <Ffwater> !msg ubotu
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <Ffwater> !msg ubotu I
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu I - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <StyXman> !locale
[03:03] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[03:03] <kishan> !genomebaker
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about genomebaker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <StyXman> wee
[03:03] <Firebird> use /msg ubotu Ffwater :)
[03:03] <LjL> or /query ubotu even
[03:03] <deep`> john__, how's it going? :)
[03:03] <kishan> !gnomebaker Ffwater
[03:03] <Ffwater> ??
[03:03] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[03:03] <Firebird> lol, genomebaker
[03:03] <malt1> what is a simple mail server i could use, I just need something simple that will send out emails on php nuke sites for email confirm
[03:04] <Ffwater> My permissions are screwed.
[03:04] <john__> i'm looking some stuff up on the net
[03:04] <john__> i didn't know anything about gksudo
[03:04] <Ffwater> I want to use the copy drag over method.
[03:05] <LjL> Ffwater, unless GNOME implements some heavy magic, i don't think that's the way a CD writer works...
[03:05] <christy> hi does anyone know the default ip address for a verizon dsl modem?
[03:05] <Ffwater> Seriously wow
[03:05] <christy> the dlink wireless that is hooked up has 192.168.0.1
[03:06] <Ffwater> What other then GNOME does that?
[03:06] <LjL> Ffwater: if what you have in mind is to take a file, move it into the CD folder, and have it written to the CD right away, also with the possibility of repeating the operation... no, i don't think you can do that
[03:07] <Ffwater> Ok thank you
[03:07] <Ffwater> Does Unix do it?
[03:07] <Ffwater> =|
[03:07] <Firebird> christy, give 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.254 a try :)
[03:07] <ReWT_AxS> anyone wanna attempt to help me out with getting sound to work on these internal speakers?
[03:08] <christy> Firebird, nada :(
[03:08] <christy> i cant find it through the dlink ui either
[03:09] <Firebird> and nothing is mentioned in the manual? :s sorry I can't be of more help, I don't own one :)
[03:09] <dynamo> christy,  try 192.168.0.1 but first unplug that D)link router
[03:10] <ba5e> zzz im tired
[03:11] <Mojo_> I'm using edgy and the bootscreen is monochrome/greyscale and crashes on boot sometimes.
[03:11] <Mojo_> Anybody know what that's about?
[03:11] <dynamo> Mojo_, what screen and gpu do you have
[03:11] <un_operateur1> I do away with bootscreens -- don't really see a point to them except for cosmetic reasons
[03:12] <Mojo_> Nvidia with proprietary module
[03:12] <Mojo_> and Dell 24"
[03:13] <dynamo> Mojo_, do you have the same problem in Dapper?
[03:13] <usr_rob> Hi, if anyone has Bluecurve installed, please send me your /usr/share/themes/Bluecurve/gtk-2.0/gtkrc , mine is corrupt.
[03:13] <Mojo_> No
[03:13] <Mojo_> only in edgy
[03:13] <ReWT_AxS> how do i load sound drivers for edgy
[03:13] <ReWT_AxS> just the basic generic one
[03:13] <ReWT_AxS> kldload snd_driver
[03:13] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[03:13] <un_operateur1> Mojo_, what happens "it crashes" ? does it hang? do you get a dump?
[03:13] <Mojo_> Hang
[03:13] <Mojo_> No dump
[03:14] <phlite_kontrol> yo, any idea how i can disable my laptop lid switch?
[03:14] <Mojo_> it hangs after the ugly boot screen comes up, but the bar doesn't even fill up a bit
[03:15] <DragonRift> I was told to come here and ask about the space station
[03:15] <DragonRift> ;)
[03:15] <phlite_kontrol> lol
[03:15] <ReWT_AxS> phlite_kontrol, i do
[03:15] <Firebird> IIS? :D
[03:15] <Firebird> err ISS
[03:15] <DragonRift> yes
[03:15] <ReWT_AxS> don't shut it?
[03:15] <ReWT_AxS> :-P
[03:15] <phlite_kontrol> ReWT_AxS: FUNNY GUY!
[03:15] <ReWT_AxS> bwah haha
[03:15] <phlite_kontrol> heh
[03:15] <DragonRift> so fire some stories at me
[03:15] <ReWT_AxS> ^_^
[03:15] <DragonRift> I am curious
[03:15] <DragonRift> :D
[03:15] <un_operateur1> Mojo, you could try changing the boot screen to see if that helps
[03:15] <phlite_kontrol> now for some seriousness :) !
[03:15] <Firebird> lol
[03:15] <un_operateur1> or better, have no bootscreen at all
[03:15] <phlite_kontrol> any idears?
[03:15] <Mojo_> how do i do that?
[03:15] <Taunto> i am having problems installing ubuntu on my i386 system the install hangs at about 50-60% done any ideas
[03:16] <Firebird> have you ran a media check Taunto?
[03:16] <Guest28087> Hey all!
[03:16] <Firebird> it's an option at boot
[03:16] <CreativeEmbassy> So I'm minutes away from reformatting my computer...
[03:17] <CreativeEmbassy> ...and I'm having trouble deciding which OS to put on my computer.
[03:17] <Taunto> yah ive run a media check
[03:17] <CreativeEmbassy> Can anyone help?
[03:17] <Mojo_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304673 is a link to to others w same problem
[03:17] <un_operateur1> Mojo, errm --  the theme you have installed should be known by this command -- dkpg -l | grep -i splash
[03:18] <kevin_> hello
[03:18] <un_operateur1> or  dkpg -l | grep -i usplash
[03:18] <KewllToys_> hello
[03:18] <Willtre> !ati
[03:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <un_operateur1> once you know the package name -- you can remove it -- aptitude remove <packagename>
[03:18] <ReWT_AxS> insmod: can't read 'emu10k1': No such file or directory
[03:18] <cchristianTPclon> I'm trying to install Ubuntu off of the CD
[03:18] <Firebird> any particular choices you're considering CreativeEmbassy ? else you can take a small test :) google for distribution chooser and use the first link, then click take the test
[03:18] <ReWT_AxS> why wont it read?
[03:18] <cchristianTPclon> But I'm stuck
[03:18] <ReWT_AxS> insmod emu10k1
[03:18] <ReWT_AxS> >.<
[03:18] <deep`> system-tools-backends, can anyone tell me what this is?
[03:18] <un_operateur1> to search for a new theme -- aptitude search usplash
[03:18] <cchristianTPclon> I was here earlier
[03:18] <sunpengrui> too fast
[03:19] <CreativeEmbassy> I have a CD for Ubuntu 6.06... but last I heard, there were problems upgrading from one version to the latest (6.10)?
[03:19] <CreativeEmbassy> True?
[03:19] <cchristianTPclon> uuh
[03:19] <Uboon2> !system-tools-backend
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system-tools-backend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <sunpengrui> i can't read
[03:19] <cchristianTPclon> If anyone is listening, poke me
[03:19] <un_operateur1> CreativeEmbassy, there are always small problems when upgrading any system/OS/hardware etc
[03:19] <radar1976> hello
[03:19] <un_operateur1> its just a matter of resolving them if and when they do happen
[03:20] <lubix_> poke you wtf are you talking about
[03:20] <radar1976> having some troubles upgrading to edgy
[03:20] <CreativeEmbassy> Should I wait and download the entire new CD image? Or will Ubuntu 6.06 automatically upgrade me to the latest, if I let the upgrading software work its magic overnight?
[03:20] <cchristianTPclon> poke = #wikia speak - say name
[03:20] <cchristianTPclon> hallo
[03:20] <un_operateur1> CreativeEmbassy, you dont have to download a CD image to do a dist-upgrade
[03:20] <cchristianTPclon> I need some help with Ubuntu Desktop
[03:20] <foob> how did windows become more stable than linux... well i guess that's not fair, more stable than linux desktops
[03:21] <un_operateur1> all you really need is to update the sources.list and do a   aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:21] <foob> er that sounded trollish, i'd still rather use an unstable linux though
[03:21] <Gibbonz> hmm when ejecting an audio cd ubuntu/gnome tries to write to it for some reason
[03:21] <mistydawn> I think windows is just better at hiding its instability
[03:21] <mistydawn> newer versions anyway
[03:21] <un_operateur1> s/in//
[03:22] <chicken_Fire> Hello. Do I get a 3d desktop out of the box with ubuntu 6.10, or is it hard to make it run?
[03:22] <mistydawn> it's probably the simplest "out of the box" linux distro
[03:23] <bubuntu> Chicken u don't
[03:23] <un_operateur1> !beryl
[03:23] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:23] <un_operateur1> !3d
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <CreativeEmbassy> So installing the 6.06 CD I have here would be fine, then I could do a distro upgrade from there? OK.
[03:24] <ReWT_AxS> someone help me figure otu this sound >.<
[03:24] <CreativeEmbassy> Now, I tried Ubuntu recently, and liked it except I couldn't run many of the programs I needed to.
[03:24] <CreativeEmbassy> Like the Adobe/Macromedia suites, I'm a designer.
[03:24] <Fleebailey33> when i get to fsck in boot it freezes
[03:25] <Fleebailey33> any idea's?
[03:25] <cchristianTPclon> ok
[03:25] <Fleebailey33> booth in feisty and in edgy
[03:25] <Fleebailey33> currently feisty
[03:25] <CreativeEmbassy> Someone mentioned VMware, that it could run XP inside of it, and it would work?
[03:25] <un_operateur1> CreativeEmbassy, sure
[03:25] <CreativeEmbassy> Someone enlighten me? I keep doing searches for vmware, and they're not very helpful/fruitful.
[03:25] <radar1976> where can I find the edgy upgrade from dapper.. I'm looking for the howto
[03:25] <CreativeEmbassy> Is vmware free?
[03:25] <bubuntu> Creative Embassy , its eat too much resources
[03:26] <Firebird> it's a bit slow but it runs :)
[03:26] <un_operateur1> !update
[03:26] <radar1976> CreativeEmbassy, the server and player are free
[03:26] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:26] <radar1976> I don
[03:26] <cchristianTPclon> I'm trying to install Ubuntu desktop 6.10, and I'm stuuck in a few places on the install
[03:26] <radar1976> I don't fine VMWare slow
[03:26] <un_operateur1> !anybody
[03:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:26] <Firebird> well, my pc is getting a bit older... probably doesn't help :)
[03:27] <radar1976> I have 2GB RAM and I have no problem running about 5 to 7 os's at the same time
[03:27] <Firebird> lol
[03:27] <buddhalover> i get i/o error when trying to edit resolv.conf why?
[03:27] <CreativeEmbassy> huh
[03:27] <un_operateur1> buddhalover, what editor are you using?
[03:27] <buddhalover> nano
[03:27] <un_operateur1> maybe you need permissions?
[03:28] <Firebird> buddhalover, you can't edit it as a normal user, try sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[03:28] <buddhalover> firebird tried that. io error again
[03:28] <Firebird> hmmm
[03:28] <CreativeEmbassy> So I have a Pentium 4 and 2 gigs of ram, would running Adobe Creative Suite 2 be alright?
[03:28] <h0ndaracer2> hi
[03:28] <buddhalover> trying as root
[03:28] <cchristianTPclon> what should I put as my location if I'm in florida?  New york?
[03:28] <un_operateur1> maybe   sudo su; nano /etc/resolv.conf
[03:29] <Firebird> sudo -s -H will get you into root modus I believe
[03:29] <buddhalover> okat same error even after root
[03:29] <buddhalover> permissions unknown when checking propetries using gui
[03:29] <Firebird> that's an error in nano?
[03:30] <cchristianTPclon> what should I put as my location if I'm in florida?  New york?
[03:30] <radar1976> now I'm confused... does gksu "update-manager -c"  do a complete upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 ?
[03:30] <buddhalover> firebird. edit using?
[03:30] <un_operateur1> buddhalover, this ought to reset perms   chmod 755 /etc/resolv.conf
[03:30] <radar1976> if so, I ran it, and it is not doing that
[03:30] <un_operateur1> as root obviously
[03:30] <un_operateur1> sudo chmod 755 /etc/resolv.conf
[03:30] <Curs0r> it's not possible to convert my ntfs drives to ext3 without destroying the data is it?
[03:30] <Dev05> Hi! How can I do a feature request for Feisty?
[03:31] <un_operateur1> Curs0r, it's probably best to copy all data off, convert and then put it back on
[03:31] <fangorious> what process do I need to kick if my mounts in /media disappeared from my desktop?
[03:31] <un_operateur1> !fiesty
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <bubuntu> cursor u can't
[03:31] <Curs0r> un_operateur1, dang, it's decidedly size-prohibitive
[03:32] <un_operateur1> I've never come across a way to convert ntfs to anything *nixy
[03:32] <Firebird> fat32 actually... using PM8
[03:32] <Firebird> ntfs->fat32 works
[03:32] <un_operateur1> fat32 :-s
[03:32] <un_operateur1> radar1976,  how about -- aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:32] <Firebird> once needed it to get rid of security thingies :)
[03:33] <chicken_Fire> mmmh is there a howto to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[03:33] <cchristianTPclon> ok...  now it just froze..
[03:33] <un_operateur1> !upgrade | chicken_Fire
[03:33] <ubotu> chicken_Fire: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:33] <buddhalover> un_operateur1 : won't change permissions. io error
[03:33] <cchristianTPclon> is anyone going to help me?????
[03:33] <phlite_kontrol> yo, any idea how i can disable my laptop lid switch?
[03:33] <phlite_kontrol> fo reals now!
[03:33] <cchristianTPclon> PLEASE!!!
[03:33] <Curs0r> i will ms no more forever, not even as a secondary
[03:33] <chicken_Fire> thanks Ubotu!
[03:33] <un_operateur1> buddhalover, can you cat /etc/resolv.conf  ??
[03:34] <phlite_kontrol> yes put newyork if in florida eh?
[03:34] <phlite_kontrol> cchristianTPclon: newyork i'd say
[03:34] <phlite_kontrol> now for more important stuff :)
[03:34] <buddhalover> un_operateur1 : can't cat can't touch
[03:34] <phlite_kontrol> how do i disable my lid switch on my laptop!!!
[03:34] <cchristianTPclon> I tried, but I saw the time was wrong, so I tried to change it, then it froze...
[03:35] <buddhalover> un_operateur1 : can't mv.
[03:35] <Gibbonz> sounds like a disk/controller failure
[03:35] <un_operateur1> buddhalover, I think you might need to fsck that volume
[03:35] <cchristianTPclon> phlite_kontrol> battery settings
[03:35] <un_operateur1> or before doing that -- try editing resolv.conf in single user mode
[03:35] <phlite_kontrol> cchristianTPclon: well, flordia is EST so if its not right, maybe your bios clock is wrong?
[03:35] <dabaR_> buddhalover: also lay off the buddha
[03:35] <cchristianTPclon> hmmm
[03:35] <un_operateur1> maybe a process has a lock on resolv.conf now
[03:35] <cchristianTPclon> ok
[03:36] <phlite_kontrol> cchristianTPclon: is that while in ubuntu? a gui setting?
[03:36] <cchristianTPclon> now CTRL ALT DEL isn't working...
[03:36] <dabaR_> buddhalover: unless it is a religious thing:P
[03:36] <cchristianTPclon> I'm running it off the CD
[03:36] <cchristianTPclon> trying to install it
[03:36] <cchristianTPclon> along side my windows
[03:37] <cchristianTPclon> I'm using a differewnt computer
[03:37] <cchristianTPclon> it does not work
[03:37] <islan> cchristianTPclon, are you running a LiveCD, or are you using VMWar?
[03:37] <islan> VMWare*
[03:37] <cchristianTPclon> 'Live CD
[03:37] <iks> Hey all ! I just installed Feisty (reinstall in fact) and I tried to install everything that I needed (non-free things). I generally did that using Automatix but since I read it can cause problems I did it with normal apt-get...
[03:37] <islan> cchristianTPclon, then of course CTRL ALT DEL wont work
[03:37] <Taunto> is there a disk scanning program i can use before installing my ubuntu intsall
[03:37] <islan> that doesn't work in Linux, it's a Windows thing
[03:37] <iks> My first problem is that movies do not show previews...
[03:38] <iks> Do you have any idea abot how I can fix that ? :p
[03:38] <cchristianTPclon> Tianto> same thing going on here
[03:38] <un_operateur1> iks, did you know fiesty is not stable yet ?? :)
[03:38] <iks> un_operateur1, I do
[03:38] <iks> un_operateur1, I love bugs :)
[03:38] <islan> Taunto, are you talking about viewing your partitions?
[03:38] <cchristianTPclon> it froxze, but I can change workspaces...
[03:39] <Taunto> i can get the live cd ot boot and install anywhere from 50-60% but then my sy7stem freezes
[03:39] <iks> un_operateur1, (BTW I suppose you're french...)
[03:39] <prower> Okay, I got beryl running easily enough :> But not quake4 segfaults when I try to run it...is there something else I need to configure?
[03:39] <Firebird> cchristianTPclon, if you're really stuck try pressint ctrl+backspace to restart X
[03:39] <Firebird> pressing*
[03:39] <Taunto> i cant even change w*rkspaces
[03:39] <buddhalover> dabaR_::puff puff pass::
[03:39] <cchristianTPclon> ok, that's doing something...
[03:39] <un_operateur1> iks, no, i'm not french  -- my current nick is a nom-de-plume
[03:39] <un_operateur1> :)
[03:39] <iks> un_operateur1, oh ^^
[03:40] <islan> I haven't had much experience with LiveCD, then tend to have problems from running it directly from RAM
[03:40] <islan> they* tend
[03:40] <un_operateur1> anyway, iks, what did you want to do anyway?
[03:40] <buddhalover> un_operateur1 : how to detect  which process has a lock on resolv.conf
[03:40] <malt1> how would i set phpmyadmin in apache config to work with www.m4lt.com/~username/phpmyadmin or www.m4lt.com/phpmyadmin/ like what is a example of putting phpmyadmin in apache config for directory /usr/share/phpmyadmin/
[03:40] <malt1> I'm running a ubuntu server to
[03:40] <un_operateur1> buddhalover, I think you can use a utility called lsof
[03:40] <iks> un_operateur1, so do you have any idea why I keep seeing the same icons for all my movies where I should see a preview of it ?
[03:40] <schisms> I have a question.
[03:40] <schisms> Are any of you familiar with linux from scratch?
[03:40] <islan> mostly because the GUIs of GNOME and KDE take up so much RAM
[03:41] <un_operateur1> iks, i'm sorry i cant really help with that -- i dont use gnome at all :)
[03:41] <Taunto> islan then what shud i install from ?
[03:41] <iks> un_operateur1, ok >_<
[03:41] <chicken_Fire> err: when doing gksu "update-manager -c", I get after clicking update to 6.10:
[03:41] <un_operateur1> maybe the forums have some hints on that issue, iks
[03:41] <Firebird> I don't think you need to configure anything in apache malt1, at least I never do :). Just put the phpmyadmin files in a 'phpmyadmin' directory directly under the web root and you'll be able to use that link
[03:41] <cchristianTPclon> it's still frozen
[03:41] <chicken_Fire> extracting '/tmp/tmpmvGAg8/edgy.tar.gz'
[03:41] <iks> right
[03:41] <compir99> is there a way to have wine create permissions of 775 automaticly?
[03:41] <islan> Taunto, I just make an installation CD instead of using LiveCD
[03:41] <chicken_Fire> authenticate '/tmp/tmpmvGAg8/edgy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmpmvGAg8/edgy.tar.gz.gpg'
[03:41] <iks> I didnt find anything on the french one but i'll try the english one ;)
[03:41] <chicken_Fire> can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk
[03:41] <chicken_Fire> wtf?
[03:41] <deep`> What will the next ubunturelase be named?
[03:41] <Taunto> ok where can i find instructions for that ?
[03:42] <un_operateur1> the next release 7.04 will be named fiesty
[03:42] <cchristianTPclon> .............
[03:42] <islan> Taunto, on Ubuntu's website
[03:42] <deep`> Ah, yes :D thats right
[03:42] <clayg> what is the name of the smp kernel?
[03:42] <kitche> deep`: fiesty fawn to be more percise
[03:42] <clayg> to apt-get it?
[03:42] <deep`> fiesty fawn, or something, right? :)
[03:42] <deep`> Yes :D
[03:42] <schisms> Are any of you familiar with linux from scratch?
[03:42] <un_operateur1> chicken_Fire, why dont you just do the usual apt-get method?? :)
[03:42] <islan> Taunto, it'll be an image CD just like the LiveCD was
[03:42] <Firebird> feisty actually :)
[03:42] <clayg> I have a core 2 duo
[03:42] <un_operateur1> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:42] <deep`> thanx kitche =)
[03:42] <schisms> Duo
[03:43] <deep`> thanx un_operateur1 too, ofc.
[03:43] <schisms> They'resweet.
[03:43] <cchristianTPclon> HELLO!?!?
[03:43] <chicken_Fire> un_operateur1, ben non: I want to update from 6.06 to 6.10
[03:43] <un_operateur1> chicken_Fire, precisely what that does
[03:43] <smithveg> hi... what kind of plugin should i install in order to play the mp3 song in a forum. When i open that forum, it always claim that i need to install the x-mplayer2. But i try mozilla-mplayer. It still cannot work
[03:43] <echosystm> how does one setup disk spanning?
[03:43] <Firebird> know what is is schisms, but that's all :s
[03:43] <deep`> hi cchristianTPclon. :)
[03:43] <Firebird> what it is*
[03:43] <cchristianTPclon> <-- PERSON ASKING SERIOUS QUESTIONS
[03:43] <clayg> what is the name of the smp kernel?
[03:43] <kitche> echosystm: with LVM
[03:43] <schisms> What firebird?
[03:44] <Firebird> lfs
[03:44] <echosystm> ok
[03:44] <schisms> Ah
[03:44] <echosystm> now
[03:44] <Firebird> nm
[03:44] <echosystm> if im using lvm
[03:44] <chicken_Fire> the howto says about apt-get method: "Please note - this method is much less reliable. If you use this method, you MUST be prepared to fix problems manually"
[03:44] <deep`> cchristianTPclon, calm down :)
[03:44] <schisms> I was thinking gentoo or maybe slack
[03:44] <un_operateur1> mozilla-mplayer is just the plugin for your browsers -- to enable them to play multimedia
[03:44] <echosystm> i have to have a non-lvm boot partition right?
[03:44] <deep`> cchristianTPclon, alot of people come here for help, you know, your not the only one : )
[03:44] <cchristianTPclon> there's too many people here....
[03:44] <un_operateur1> it's not a standlone utility
[03:44] <schisms> I tried using ubuntu but it just didn't turn out good.
[03:44] <un_operateur1> you need mplayer instead
[03:44] <islan> cchristianTPclon, there always are
[03:44] <chicken_Fire> gksu "update-manager -c"  sould do all..
[03:44] <cchristianTPclon> I'm asking how to install it
[03:44] <phlite_kontrol> ok, i even tell ubuntu not to do anything ( in the power management area ) when the lid is closed, and it still logs out when the lid closes :"( any ideas peeps?
[03:44] <smithveg> un_operateur1, how can i enable them,?
[03:44] <islan> cchristianTPclon, that's why tells are so helpful
[03:44] <cchristianTPclon> huh?
[03:45] <un_operateur1> smithveg, install the mplayer or xmms packages
[03:45] <cchristianTPclon> islan>	what?
[03:45] <un_operateur1> chicken_Fire, errm .. in my experience that way works quite fine
[03:45] <un_operateur1> although i use aptitude instead
[03:45] <islan> cchristianTPclon, if you right-click on a username you can open a dialog window with them as a private or instant message
[03:45] <smithveg> un_operateur1, ya already got the mplayer
[03:46] <un_operateur1> aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:46] <chicken_Fire> well, I have a kubuntu instead of ubuntu...
[03:46] <un_operateur1> smithveg, aye, yes
[03:46] <smithveg> un_operateur1, you know what is happening to me right?
[03:46] <cchristianTPclon> I have to register
[03:46] <cchristianTPclon> I don't want to on this comp
[03:46] <smithveg> un_operateur1, i got mplayer movie player install
[03:46] <cchristianTPclon> It's not my comp
[03:47] <islan> cchristianTPclon, well still, just use people's names in your messages
[03:47] <islan> cchristianTPclon, much easier to see
[03:47] <un_operateur1> smithveg, ok, sorry, i misread you
[03:47] <cchristianTPclon> islan>	ok, I just rebooted
[03:47] <un_operateur1> yea, you need the mplayer or totem-xine mozilla packages to play an mp3 in your browser
[03:47] <smithveg> un_operateur1, so do you know what i'm missing here?
[03:47] <un_operateur1> i prefer mplayer-mozilla
[03:48] <un_operateur1> smithveg, i hope i do now :)
[03:48] <phlite_kontrol> ok, i even tell ubuntu not to do anything ( in the power management area ) when the lid is closed, and it still logs out when the lid closes :"( any ideas peeps?
[03:48] <cchristianTPclon> islan>	I can't install it, I have it running Live CD
[03:48] <un_operateur1> sorry for earlier
[03:48] <islan> cchristianTPclon, how much RAM do you have?
[03:48] <cchristianTPclon> I don't know
[03:48] <cchristianTPclon> but it's ALOT
[03:48] <cchristianTPclon> esp for a laptop
[03:48] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, it might be your BIOS controlling ACPI functions and that is overriding the OSes commands
[03:48] <dibblego> what is the easiest way to type characters such as mathematical symbols?
[03:48] <islan> cchristianTPclon, okay, then, what is the problem you are encountering again?
[03:49] <cchristianTPclon> well, I think I'm past the time problem...
[03:49] <evil_> is there a default root password?
[03:49] <cchristianTPclon> I'm putting NewYork
[03:49] <smithveg> ya, i already install Mozillla-Mplayer in synaptic
[03:49] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: in the bios i turned the lid switch off :(
[03:49] <wastrel> "hella"
[03:49] <cchristianTPclon> islan>	now I can't get it to install
[03:49] <un_operateur1> smithveg, and it still doesnt work?
[03:49] <un_operateur1> can you play mp3's normally?
[03:50] <clayg> guys is SMP good for a intel core 2 duo?
[03:50] <smithveg> still doens' wotk. even i close and open firefoz again
[03:50] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, recheck the BIOS
[03:50] <cchristianTPclon> hold on while I bring it up
[03:50] <islan> cchristianTPclon, there should be an icon on the desktop I think for the installation
[03:50] <un_operateur1> you probably overlooked something
[03:50] <iks> un_operateur1, just to tell you I found the solution : simply delete all folders in ~/.thumbnails (when it first generate the previews not having the correct codec it cant show the preview and it then save it in those folders)
[03:50] <phlite_kontrol> hmm maybe ...
[03:50] <cchristianTPclon> That's what I clicked
[03:50] <phlite_kontrol> I'll BE BACK
[03:50] <phlite_kontrol> ...
[03:50] <islan> cchristianTPclon, but again, I personally wouldn't recommend using LiveCD for installation, but that's just me
[03:50] <Fleebailey33>  im using grub and my issue that it wont boot. it hangs after fsck
[03:50] <Fleebailey33> feisty
[03:50] <un_operateur1> iks, cool, i'll remember that for the next time i use nautlius :)
[03:50] <clayg> how do i edit my bootloader
[03:50] <evil_> is there a default root password?
[03:50] <cchristianTPclon> I already have it, so I do it
[03:50] <iks> un_operateur1, never ? xD Do you use KDE ?
[03:50] <Starcraftmazter> I am having some trouble configuring my mouse, my scrollwheet acts as back / forward, and my back/forward buttons act as left-click, can someone suggest the setting to modify>?
[03:50] <wastrel> !feisty
[03:50] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:51] <evil_> is there a default root password?
[03:51] <un_operateur1> iks, i use fluxbox
[03:51] <Fleebailey33> evil_ ubuntu
[03:51] <wastrel> evil_:  no, use sudo instead
[03:51] <un_operateur1> evil_ .. on ubuntu no
[03:51] <Fleebailey33> on live cd
[03:51] <iks> un_operateur1, I tried it on Mandriva today I think..
[03:51] <un_operateur1> on ubuntu, the default user is a proxy for root
[03:51] <Fleebailey33> if your asking that
[03:51] <islan> cchristianTPclon, so, are you encountering a problem?
[03:51] <iks> un_operateur1, anyway, thanks for helping ;) Good Day/Night (3 AM here in Paris)
[03:52] <cchristianTPclon> hold on
[03:52] <cchristianTPclon> I'm moving
[03:52] <smithveg> i'm trying to install the totem_xine now
[03:52] <un_operateur1> iks, bon nuit :)
[03:52] <oxygenthief> I have ubuntu 6.1 and mozila runs slower that on windows is this normal
[03:52] <iks> ^^
[03:53] <cchristianTPclon> ok here
[03:53] <cchristianTPclon> now
[03:53] <arrenlex> Hallo.
[03:53] <smithveg> oxygenthief, is you experience the slow performance when you switch the firefox browser windows?
[03:53] <un_operateur1> mozilla runs slower on every release -- contradicting moore's law :)
[03:53] <cchristianTPclon> step 5 of 6 prepare disk space
[03:53] <wastrel> moore's law doesn't apply to software
[03:53] <smithveg> huh!
[03:54] <cchristianTPclon> islan> I want to install beside Windows
[03:54] <islan> it applies to processing power
[03:54] <coincoin169> where to tell kde not tu start programs that i have not closed on the previous session ???
[03:54] <smithveg> what is moore' law?
[03:54] <islan> cchristianTPclon, okay...?
[03:54] <oxygenthief> it's slow loading pages. typicaly whenever there is a picture on it
[03:54] <clayg> im stumped here, i have a intel core 2 duo
[03:54] <coincoin169> where to tell kde not to start programs that i have not closed on the previous session ???
[03:54] <clayg> should i have downloaded the 64 bit version
[03:54] <cchristianTPclon> without deleting windows
[03:54] <clayg> or just upgrade to sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[03:54] <islan> cchristianTPclon, yes, it's called dual-booting
[03:54] <arrenlex> coincoin169: kcontrol > KDE components > session manager
[03:55] <radar1976> so can I use apt to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10
[03:55] <arrenlex> ! upgrade | radar1976
[03:55] <ubotu> radar1976: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:55] <cchristianTPclon> and I want to use my windows files
[03:55] <cchristianTPclon> now
[03:55] <coincoin169> arrenlex thx i'm trying
[03:55] <jason0_> Trying to make the xfce-macmenu but it comes with a PKGBUILD file, how do I compile it?
[03:55] <nightless_> hello, for some reason i cannot open my CD drive from the file browser,. it says: unable to mount the selected volume when i try to open it :(
[03:55] <Gibbonz> cchristianTPclon: why are you trying to install an os on a comp that isn't yours? just curious
[03:55] <un_operateur1> radar1976, lol, thats the 6th time you've asked that question :)
[03:55] <cchristianTPclon> I have four options
[03:55] <cchristianTPclon> no
[03:55] <smithveg> hello,
[03:55] <cchristianTPclon> this comp im typing on isn't mine
[03:55] <kishan> !mount
[03:56] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:56] <Gibbonz> ah right
[03:56] <coincoin169> start with an empty session ?? is it that ?
[03:56] <cchristianTPclon> the one I'm installing to is my LapTop
[03:56] <radar1976> however I did those  instructions and I still have 6.06
[03:56] <islan> cchristianTPclon, please keep typing my name, you just need to type is and then hit tab
[03:56] <kishan> !fstab
[03:56] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:56] <islan> cchristianTPclon, okay
[03:56] <cchristianTPclon> islan: ok
[03:56] <smithveg> I have mplayer movie player, and totem-xine, totem-xine-mozilla-plugin.. install.. But when i open that forum. It still prompt me 'install missing plugins'
[03:57] <coincoin169> ok thx
[03:57] <nightless_> kishan, thanks :D
[03:57] <cchristianTPclon> islan: now, Resize IDE1 master, partition#1 (hda1) and use free space
[03:57] <islan> smithveg, those are programs that you have, you need the plugins for the programs
[03:57] <cchristianTPclon> islan: use largest continual free space
[03:57] <un_operateur1> smithveg, and when you clicked on 'install missing plugins'  -- did it tell you what plugins you were missing?
[03:57] <smithveg> That's the mp3 song in forums.
[03:57] <Spisters> hello, I am trying to install a font in my shared font folder but it is telling me I need to be root, I don't know how to use terminal very well, do I need to use the sudo command to do this?
[03:57] <cchristianTPclon> manually edit partition table
[03:58] <cchristianTPclon> or refrmat, but I don't want that...
[03:58] <smithveg> they tell me, the 'application/x-mplayer2' missing
[03:58] <cchristianTPclon> which one?
[03:58] <smithveg> un_operateur1, they tell me, the 'application/x-mplayer2' missing
[03:58] <islan> cchristianTPclon, does it not inform you what your partition currently looks like?
[03:58] <kishan> yes spinsters use sudo
[03:58] <cchristianTPclon> hmm?
[03:59] <un_operateur1> smithveg, I think your totem-xine-mozilla-plugin might be conflicting with mozilla-mplayer
[03:59] <cchristianTPclon> islan: I don't even know what that IS
[03:59] <un_operateur1> I'd uninstall it if i were you
[03:59] <Spisters> I can only use Sudo in terminal correct?
[03:59] <cchristianTPclon> I'm from before people started making up names...
[03:59] <kishan> yes spisters
[03:59] <un_operateur1> Spisters, you can only type it in a terminal, yes
[03:59] <Gibbonz> smithveg: you need the mozilla plugin for your choice of playback software, eg here i use vlc so I have the mozilla vlc plugin
[03:59] <kishan> !sudo
[03:59] <pauliukas> Hello everybody.
[03:59] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:59] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: dbl checked bios, its set to not do anything on close
[03:59] <fokuslee> hi : ) used umount /dev/sdb1 to umount my usb so i can use mkfs.vfat to format it.  comes back with sdb1 not in fstab how do i force an unmount?
[03:59] <pauliukas> Would USB2 HDD enclosures work with Ubuntu Server?
[03:59] <arrenlex> !hi | pauliukas
[03:59] <ubotu> pauliukas: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:59] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: so wtf :'(
[03:59] <islan> cchristianTPclon, does it not tell you how many partitions you have the size of each?
[03:59] <Spisters> ok, thanks
[04:00] <smithveg> Gibbonz, i do not sure...
[04:00] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, maybe you need to check if you have the latest ACPI software
[04:00] <cchristianTPclon> islan: no, I don't know what you are talking about
[04:00] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: hmmm how to check that
[04:00] <kitche> fokuslee: umount where your usb drive is mounted to
[04:00] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, errm, hold up
[04:00] <kishan> !usb
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <islan> cchristianTPclon, okay, go to manually edit partition table
[04:00] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: i'm currently up-to-date
[04:00] <Gibbonz> well if you use mplayer then you need mplayer-plugin-mozilla
[04:00] <Gibbonz> or whetever its called
[04:01] <un_operateur1> mozilla-mplayer
[04:01] <cchristianTPclon> yeah...
[04:01] <arrenlex> Gibbonz: mozilla-mplayer
[04:01] <fokuslee> kitche oh haha itz mounted to media
[04:01] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: as far as patches go
[04:01] <fokuslee> stupid me
[04:01] <cchristianTPclon> it's loading...
[04:01] <islan> cchristianTPclon, that should inform you of your partition table
[04:01] <cchristianTPclon> ij
[04:01] <cchristianTPclon> ok
[04:01] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, just to make sure -- aptitude install acpi acpid acpi-support
[04:01] <HyperHacker> hey
[04:01] <cchristianTPclon> islan: now what, I'm there
[04:02] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: k sec...
[04:02] <islan> cchristianTPclon, what does it say?
[04:02] <HyperHacker> what can I do if Ubuntu's live CD is hanging at "Loading device drivers"?
[04:02] <cchristianTPclon> it's charts and tables
[04:02] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, is your computer a fairly recent one?
[04:02] <cchristianTPclon> Prepare partitions
[04:02] <cchristianTPclon> islan: which part?
[04:02] <HyperHacker> not particularly
[04:03] <fokuslee> kitche hey actually my usb is not showing up in fstab
[04:03] <islan> cchristianTPclon, it should make mention of hda1, etc
[04:03] <killerbeesateme> Hello Everyone, can anyone help me with an IVTV driver issue?  the driver appears to be installed properly and starts with no errors but it does not initialize the card
[04:03] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: ya it didn't get anything
[04:03] <HyperHacker> Pentium 2 350mhz, 192MB
[04:03] <HyperHacker> brand new DVD drive though
[04:03] <fokuslee> kitche i used fdisk -l it days /dev/sdb1
[04:03] <kitche> fokuslee: see if it's mounted by typing mount
[04:03] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, and you sure the settings in "power management" stick?
[04:03] <islan> cchristianTPclon, how many hda's are ther?
[04:03] <cchristianTPclon> islan> /dev/hda1 ?
[04:03] <transgress> anyone know of a way to record a webcam and a mic in one program?
[04:03] <cchristianTPclon> islan> /dev/hda2 ?
[04:03] <cchristianTPclon> islan> unallocated
[04:03] <kishan> HyperHacker try to run live cd in other modes ...first check the cd for errors there is a option when u boot
[04:04] <HyperHacker> kishan, I did that
[04:04] <Gibbonz> anyway, any ideas why right click -> eject tries to write to an audio cd, or is this perhaps some quirk due to the drive being a cdrw?
[04:04] <ZephYr> quelqu'un parle t il franais ?
[04:04] <ZephYr> quelqu'un parle t il franais ?
[04:04] <cchristianTPclon> islan: now what
[04:04] <kishan> HyperHacker:all the modes have the same problem
[04:04] <un_operateur1> << un petit peu
[04:04] <HyperHacker> it said no checksums failed, took a while though
[04:04] <fokuslee> kitche ok thx
[04:04] <fokuslee> so fstab doesn't matter
[04:04] <smithveg> Hello, Curretly i have 2 kind of movie player, one is come from the ubuntu default installation, another is mplayer movie player... so what kind of plugin i needed?..
[04:04] <arrenlex> ! fr | ZephYr
[04:04] <islan> cchristianTPclon, it says the symbol ? under size, or is that just ther?
[04:04] <ubotu> ZephYr: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:04] <islan> there*
[04:04] <fokuslee> kitche thx a bunch
[04:04] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: yes the settings stick, tho they didn't till i did a logout and all that, hmm i see that there is some package called: i8kutils
[04:04] <HyperHacker> and it's actually "Loading hardware drivers" to be exact
[04:05] <Curs0r> is there an easy way to get xmms-projectM into edgy?
[04:05] <kitche> fokuslee: fstab is useful when you want something to mount at boot or if you just want to do mount <device> it will mount to whatever you have it being mounted to in your fstab
[04:05] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: how to get that? i have inspiron 8k
[04:05] <kishan> Hyperhacker: u using drapper live cd
[04:05] <cchristianTPclon> islan:  no symbol, just   nn.nn GiB
[04:05] <HyperHacker> I don't know what that is so I'm guessing no
[04:05] <Gibbonz> smithveg: others have said already... mozilla-mplayer
[04:05] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, get what??
[04:05] <radar1976> ok I'm not doing very good with this upgrade.... two machines are doing some security updates but not upgrading
[04:05] <SmoothOp> the installer cd allows me to resize my ntfs partition
[04:05] <SmoothOp> right
[04:05] <cchristianTPclon> islan: n being a number
[04:05] <islan> cchristianTPclon, oh, okay, how big is hda1 and hda2?
[04:05] <Alakazamz0r> http://metasploit.com/projects/Framework/
[04:05] <HyperHacker> it's sitting there now running the DVD drive at full speed
[04:06] <cchristianTPclon> 1= 29.81 Gib
[04:06] <radar1976> ls
[04:06] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: i8kutils
[04:06] <kishan> Hyperhacker:which version of ubuntu u using
[04:06] <radar1976> opps
[04:06] <cchristianTPclon> 2=7.44 Gib
[04:06] <HyperHacker> kishan, ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[04:06] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, simply install it i suppose -- aptitude install i8kutils
[04:06] <fokuslee> kitche cool cool thx for the expl im just learning dis
[04:06] <un_operateur1> !i8kutils
[04:06] <HyperHacker> it ran on my laptop just fine
[04:06] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: what is this "aptitude" ?
[04:06] <ubotu> i8kutils: utilities for Dell Inspiron and Latitude laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.27 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 132 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)
[04:07] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, it's an advanced apt-get
[04:07] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: versus apt-get
[04:07] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: ahh
[04:07] <smithveg> Gibbonz, ya i do, i have install mozilla-mplayer, and restart my firefox. It doens't work anymore. i want to listen the mp3 song from this forum http://mm520.70bb.com/viewthread.php?tid=216671&extra=page%3D1
[04:07] <un_operateur1> aptitude resolves deps better than apt-get does
[04:07] <radar1976> gksu "update-manager -c"  doesn't do an upgrade... let alone does not work on console system
[04:07] <arrenlex_> !aptitude | phlite_kontrol
[04:07] <ubotu> phlite_kontrol: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:07] <kishan> Hyperhacker: this version of ubuntu is called Drapper Drake.ok well there might me problem with the hard drivers are u installing it or just runnning the live cd
[04:07] <cchristianTPclon> islan>  1= 29.81 Gib
[04:08] <HyperHacker> just running the live CD at the moment
[04:08] <un_operateur1> radar1976, have you tried  -- aptitude dist-upgrade ?
[04:08] <cchristianTPclon> islan>  2=7.44 Gib
[04:08] <smithveg> Gibbonz, do i need to enable somewhere? after the installation/
[04:08] <Desert88> hey
[04:08] <islan> cchristianTPclon, I take it you want Ubuntu to run in the second partition, then?
[04:08] <Desert88> is there anyway to get beryl in ubuntu?
[04:08] <HyperHacker> I've got some old TV tuner card in there that I suspect might be a problem, but I hope not because I was planning to make an HTPC out of it
[04:08] <cchristianTPclon> hmm?
[04:08] <fokuslee> kitche here is wut i have from mount
[04:08] <fokuslee> /dev/sdb1 on /media/MEMOREXTD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixe
[04:08] <fokuslee> and i did umount /media/sdb1
[04:08] <Gibbonz> smithveg: no idea, i don't use mplayer :)
[04:08] <fokuslee> says not in mstab
[04:08] <islan> cchristianTPclon, hda1 should be windows, and should be partitioned as FAT32, while hda2 is unallocated or freespace, yes?
[04:09] <cchristianTPclon> islan: I guess so....  along side windows?  same files?
[04:09] <HyperHacker> it works in Windows XP on that computer but when I put it in my other system it  BSODs
[04:09] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, that probably is the reason why it's hanging -- bad drivers for your hardware
[04:09] <Desert88> How can I get beryl on Ubuntu?
[04:09] <cchristianTPclon> no
[04:09] <cchristianTPclon> hda 2 is fat32
[04:09] <un_operateur1> !beryl
[04:09] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:09] <kitche> fokuslee k you want to to use sudo unless your root already sudo umount /dev/sdb1 or umount /media/MEMOREXTD
[04:09] <cchristianTPclon> islan> hda 2 is fat32
[04:09] <smithveg> Gibbonz, what is the movie player youare using. elv? what what's kind of plugin u use for it?... i want to try this
[04:09] <islan> cchristianTPclon, what is hda1?
[04:09] <HyperHacker> that's what I was afraid of
[04:09] <killerbeesateme> hello, can someone help me with the ivtv driver?  i followed the wiki entry and everything seems to be ok but the card does not initialize and dmesg indicates no errors and the modules are loaded
[04:10] <cchristianTPclon> islan: hda1 is ntfs
[04:10] <radar1976> un_operateur1, I get no upgrade
[04:10] <HyperHacker> it's a Zoltrix TV tuner card, I'd have to open it up to check the chipset
[04:10] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, what you could do it take out the TV card, install and put it back in -- then try installing it's drivers
[04:10] <HyperHacker> nice idea, thankss
[04:10] <fokuslee> lol ok thx
[04:10] <fokuslee> kitche phew finally got it
[04:10] <fokuslee> thx
[04:10] <nokrev> Suddenly wpasupplicant is causing me all sorts of problems, whenever I try to dist-upgrade. I can't install it, and I can't remove it. I don't want it, as I'm not using wireless anyways. Something is very faulty about it.
[04:10] <un_operateur1> radar1976, oops, sorry , have you updated apt's sources.list ?
[04:10] <un_operateur1> !sources.list
[04:10] <nokrev> Can I just remove the .deb file itself, /var/cache/apt/archives/wpasupplicant_0.5.5-3v1ubuntu4_i386.deb?
[04:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:10] <arrenle1> ?
[04:10] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/281856
[04:11] <arrenlex_> ?
[04:11] <islan> cchristianTPclon, ah, right, I'm sorry:  NTFS is Windows
[04:11] <cchristianTPclon> ok...
[04:11] <islan> cchristianTPclon, but you are not using the second partition, right?
[04:11] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: hmm, it dosen't find the packakge i8kutils, how do i check if i alredy have?
[04:12] <Gibbonz> smithveg: i'm using vlc from their own repository, not ubuntu's
[04:12] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: i made sure that universal was uncommented
[04:12] <cchristianTPclon> it says that hda 2 has 6.44 Gib used..
[04:12] <un_operateur1> dpkg -l | grep -i i8kutils
[04:12] <nokrev> so, is it safe to simply delete the .deb file, /var/cache/apt/archives/wpasupplicant_0.5.5-3v1ubuntu4_i386.deb?
[04:12] <arrenle1> nokrev: Yes. That is a cache.
[04:12] <islan> cchristianTPclon, ah
[04:12] <islan> cchristianTPclon, I wonder what's in there...
[04:13] <islan> cchristianTPclon, I can't really tell you what the second partition is I'm afraid
[04:13] <cchristianTPclon> islan: fat32
[04:13] <islan> cchristianTPclon, I know what filesystem type it is, but do you know what's on it?
[04:14] <cchristianTPclon> islan: can I make a new ine
[04:14] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: hmm doesn't come up with anything, so maybe my reposittories don't have it? if u add more, how do u update? do u have to run a command, or just edit the file: /etc/apt/sources.llist ?
[04:14] <cchristianTPclon> how do I find out?
[04:14] <Curs0r> is it dangerous to install ftgl inubuntu?
[04:14] <islan> cchristianTPclon, as in, might it be a swap partition or might there have been another Linux OS installed prior...
[04:14] <islan> cchristianTPclon, I really can't say, I don't know how to mount filesystems in Windows, only in Linux
[04:14] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, I can find it i8kutils in my repos
[04:14] <cchristianTPclon> islan: never installed linux before
[04:15] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: hmm, which repo?
[04:15] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, hold up a sec, let me give you a more comprehensive sources.list
[04:15] <cchristianTPclon> how do I make a new partition?
[04:15] <cchristianTPclon> islan
[04:15] <islan> cchristianTPclon, I know, but since you only have windows installed, you can only use windows to check the partition
[04:16] <islan> cchristianTPclon, do you have any unallocated memory (ie, is freespace)
[04:16] <cchristianTPclon> yeah
[04:16] <jrib> Curs0r: what is ftgl?
[04:16] <cchristianTPclon> is MiB more than GiB
[04:16] <cchristianTPclon> ?
[04:16] <Gibbonz> other way
[04:16] <phlite_kontrol> mib is less then gib
[04:16] <cchristianTPclon> shit
[04:16] <phlite_kontrol> megabyte = 1000 kbyte
[04:16] <Curs0r> jrib,  some font utility for projectM
[04:17] <phlite_kontrol> gigabye = 1,000,0000 kbyte
[04:17] <cchristianTPclon> I know I have at least 50% unused space...
[04:17] <un_operateur1> Mib = 1024 Kib tho
[04:17] <gaurav19> Hi again, un_operateur1. I am trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 - drapper drake, I have the iso image mounted on the CD-ROM, when I restart the machine, the Ubuntu installer does not come up, even though the boot sequence is CD-Rom first
[04:17] <islan> cchristianTPclon, it should tell you on the partition table
[04:17] <phlite_kontrol> oh ya take off my k lol
[04:17] <jrib> Curs0r: ftgl-dev is in the repos, is that the same/
[04:17] <un_operateur1> http://pastebin.ca/281862   phlite_kontrol  -- my sources.list
[04:17] <cchristianTPclon> ok, it sees 7.84 free Mib
[04:17] <cchristianTPclon> how is that?
[04:17] <phlite_kontrol> not good
[04:17] <Curs0r> jrib, couldn't hurt to try it
[04:18] <islan> cchristianTPclon, just because you have freespace on your windows partition does not mean you have freespace outside of that partition
[04:18] <Gibbonz> not a great fan of 'MiB' notation myself ;p
[04:18] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, did you say it goes back to booting from the CD again?
[04:18] <cchristianTPclon> hmmm
[04:18] <fnf> Hi, will anyone tell me is there a dock for GNOME which has the most features like Mac's please ?
[04:18] <cchristianTPclon> ok
[04:18] <HyperHacker> hm, I thought it was the other way around?
[04:18] <nokrev> Yeah, so, this wpasupplicant thing is really broken. http://pastebin.ca/281864
[04:18] <cchristianTPclon> that'd be it
[04:18] <un_operateur1> the MiB notation ought to be universal
[04:18] <islan> cchristianTPclon, you will have to resize the windows partition in order to get that space
[04:18] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: did ya find some info?
[04:18] <tur1> Hi any one here using ekiga?
[04:18] <wastrel> what's MiB
[04:18] <cchristianTPclon> islan: tell me how
[04:18] <nokrev> I can't install or remove it. I deleted the cache file, also.
[04:18] <jrib> !anyone | tur1
[04:18] <ubotu> tur1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:18] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, did you see that paste i posted up there?
[04:18] <angel12> hey guys, i have a problem with my resolv.conf file. every time i reboot i have to edit it and delete a line in it, other wise i get dns errors
[04:18] <HyperHacker> 1MiB = 1,000,000  B; 1MB = 1,048,576 B?
[04:18] <islan> cchristianTPclon, did you run Defrag on your windows partition before trying to do this?
[04:18] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: think i missed it, lemme scroll up
[04:18] <angel12> is there any way to fix it so i dont have to do it every reboot?
[04:18] <cchristianTPclon> no
[04:18] <Gibbonz> to me MB = Mbyte, Mb = Mbit
[04:19] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, no , the other way around :)
[04:19] <fnf> HyperHacker: You got it backward
[04:19] <HyperHacker> hah
[04:19] <HyperHacker> well that explains some things then
[04:19] <tur1> ops sorry
[04:19] <gaurav19> no, I just put the iso Cd in the drive and restarted the machine, expecting the CD-Rom to get precedence over the primary hard disk and start the Installation
[04:19] <cchristianTPclon> I last ran it a few weeks ago
[04:19] <un_operateur1> Gibbonz, thats right
[04:19] <cchristianTPclon> been forgetting
[04:19] <islan> cchristianTPclon, I'd recommend that you do it again
[04:19] <HyperHacker> I guess Windows has it backward too then :p
[04:19] <cchristianTPclon> Litium Ion battery and all
[04:19] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, here it is again if you want -- http://pastebin.ca/281862
[04:19] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: ok got it ...
[04:19] <radar1976> so do I just add the edgy sources? and then I can do an upgrade?
[04:19] <Curs0r> jrib, good call, thanks man
[04:19] <nokrev> http://pastebin.ca/281864. I cannot remove or install wpasupplicant, and it seems to be corrupted. (Gar...)
[04:20] <islan> cchristianTPclon, you see, when you resize a partition, it has a chance to delete files from it
[04:20] <un_operateur1> radar1976, yes, add edgy sources and your all set for the upgrade
[04:20] <gaurav19> I guess that i have to initiate the installation through the CD while it is windows environment.. and then it will restart itself in a diff environment
[04:20] <islan> cchristianTPclon, defragging helps keep that chance low
[04:20] <tur1> I was looking for some who uses ekiga cause i jest configure mine and i would liketo test if its working
[04:20] <angel12> any ideas guys? i have to edit my resolv.conf file every reboot as it is right now
[04:20] <tur1> jest -> just
[04:20] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, I think you just need to adjust the BIOS to boot from CD first
[04:20] <cchristianTPclon> ee
[04:21] <HyperHacker> well, I got the TV card out but it still appears to be stuck at "Loading hardware drivers"
[04:21] <fnf> Is there a dock in GNOME which can show the opening applications, not just the launchers ?
[04:21] <frogzoo> angel12: u using dhcp?
[04:21] <angel12> gaurav19, you should set your bios to boot from cd
[04:21] <HyperHacker> does that normally take a while?
[04:21] <ephesius> does anyone know why the ipw2100 device doesnt work in edgy?
[04:21] <cchristianTPclon> so...
[04:21] <angel12> frogzoo, yeah
[04:21] <cchristianTPclon> islan: I defrag and resize?
[04:21] <cchristianTPclon> ok
[04:21] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: hmm i have all the edgy's don't c what im missing really
[04:21] <nokrev> So, no ideas?
[04:21] <cchristianTPclon> that's it
[04:21] <cchristianTPclon> ?
[04:21] <gaurav19> Thanks un_operateur1, I will try this again
[04:21] <tur1> anybody here i could call and try if my ekiga is working?
[04:21] <frogzoo> angel12: well the trouble is the dhcp server is giving you a bogus dns address - maybe that server's down atm?
[04:21] <niall> hi if I put in a dvd  in uuntu how can I make it play with vlc?
[04:21] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, errm ok .. if you hold up a sec, i'll do a test run to determine which repo
[04:21] <niall> IM using dapper
[04:21] <arrenlex> !dvd | niall
[04:21] <ubotu> niall: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:21] <islan> cchristianTPclon, yes
[04:22] <gaurav19> thanks angel12, I will try it again. I think the settings were not saved last timw
[04:22] <gaurav19> exit
[04:22] <cchristianTPclon> ok
[04:22] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: perfect
[04:22] <niall> thanks alot for the help
[04:22] <gaurav19> Thanks for your help
[04:22] <angel12> frogzoo, my dhcp server is my router, and that is being set in my resolv.conf every boot for my nameserver, and there is another entry in there too
[04:22] <gaurav19> quit
[04:22] <islan> cchristianTPclon, yes
[04:22] <frogzoo> angel12: which is?
[04:22] <islan> cchristianTPlurk, and be careful not to resize too much
[04:22] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol,   Get:1 http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe i8kutils 1.27 [31.4kB] 
[04:22] <Gibbonz> niall: see also System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media
[04:22] <un_operateur1> seems like it is in universe
[04:23] <cchristianTPlurk> I know
[04:23] <angel12> frogzoo, its like 205.something, and thats the one i leave in there, and comment out 192.168.0.1
[04:23] <prower> Hmm...beryl seems to work pretty nicely :> Except for having to turn it off to play OpenGL-based games ;/
[04:23] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: is there a command u have to issue, to tell ubuntu that u edited that file?
[04:23] <angel12> and all works fine
[04:23] <niall> thanks Gibbonz
[04:23] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, ohh yea sorry
[04:23] <islan> cchristianTPlurk, I'd recommend taking the current size that is in use with Windows and increase that number by 125%, and leave hda1 that size
[04:23] <frogzoo> angel12: and the 192. is your router?
[04:23] <angel12> frogzoo, yeah
[04:23] <un_operateur1> aptitude update   phlite_kontrol
[04:23] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: k, lemme try
[04:23] <un_operateur1> aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[04:23] <malt1> what do i need to install to get php nuke and phpbb to send a email for email confirm to the users?
[04:24] <frogzoo> angel12: yeah, what's happening is your router is sending both dns addresses - any way to turn that off on the router? (the 205. comes from the router's own dhcp)
[04:24] <angel12> frogzoo, no clue let me check, its a crappy dsl modem with a wireless router lol
[04:25] <HyperHacker> yep, still hanging :-(
[04:25] <un_operateur1> you can always override and use manual dns settings
[04:25] <islan> cchristianTPlurk, so if say inside your windows partition you have 50gigs in use of 100, make the partition about 65gigs
[04:25] <HyperHacker> or taking AGES anyway
[04:25] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, it probably is another peice of hardware thats causing it to hang
[04:25] <un_operateur1> not the TV card as we expected
[04:25] <un_operateur1> have any legacy hardware in that box?
[04:26] <islan> cchristianTPlurk, and I think I am going to head off now, so good luck
[04:26] <cchristianTPlurk> FAT was my mem card, I left it in
[04:26] <nokrev> Is it possible to run AIGLX/Compiz/Emerald, rather than AIGLX/Compiz/Metacity...?
[04:26] <Gibbonz> my comp defines legacy :p
[04:26] <alexicon> hello
[04:26] <frogzoo> anyone experiencing problems with amarok not opening mms: net radio sites ?
[04:26] <cchristianTPlurk> bye
[04:26] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: ahh, finallyf ound it
[04:26] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol,  :)
[04:26] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: installing
[04:26] <un_operateur1> cool
[04:26] <HyperHacker> un_operateur1, could only be the network card, hard drive, or motherboard
[04:26] <Gibbonz> by current standards anyway
[04:26] <un_operateur1> << crosses fingers for phlite_kontrol
[04:26] <angel12> nokrev, isnt emerald for beryl?
[04:27] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: gotta do anytyhing to ubuntu to see new packages?
[04:27] <angel12> frogzoo, i cant find anything about that
[04:27] <nokrev> angel12: yes, but it's just a theme manager... in theory, it should be usable with anything, right?
[04:27] <alexicon> ive got an issue with kubuntu where it will not let me connect to any wifi networks. its a vaio sz laptop. does anyone know if ubuntu has the same wifi problem?
[04:27] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, aptitude upgrade
[04:27] <nokrev> angel12: in the same way compiz uses metacity now, it should be able to use emerald
[04:27] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, are you looking to install ubuntu on this run -- or just see what the liveCD is all about?
[04:27] <angel12> nokrev, im not too sure, i mean, you couldnt use kde themes with gnome, i would think its the same idea
[04:28] <nokrev> (in the same way Beryl can use metacity themes, too)
[04:28] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: but do i have to do anything to tell ubuntu to use this i8kutils with this laptop and stuff?
[04:28] <HyperHacker> I was hoping to install it to check it out and make a MythTV box
[04:28] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: or does it just do it after the upgrade?
[04:28] <HyperHacker> it's that or a similar program in Windows which runs sloooooow on this box
[04:28] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, errm, i'm not sure dude -- i'd read up on the man page or website for that package
[04:28] <alexicon> are there any known issues with ubuntu wifi and laptops??
[04:28] <frogzoo> angel12: is there a checkbox for caching dns queries? try turning it of & restart everything
[04:28] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: k
[04:29] <un_operateur1> each package has different requirements on part of the user
[04:29] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, if you're sure about installing, you can install in text mode
[04:29] <nightless_> !drives
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <un_operateur1> perhaps that'll help .. just a jab in the dark
[04:29] <HyperHacker> eh, I'm a total newbie to Linux
[04:30] <nightless_> !fstab
[04:30] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:30] <frogzoo> !documentation | HyperHacker
[04:30] <ubotu> HyperHacker: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[04:30] <HyperHacker> last time I did a text-mode install I accidentally wiped my hard disk and didn't manage to boot anything
[04:30] <arrenlex> nokrev: What would happen if you ran "sudo apt-get install --reinstall wpasupplicant"?
[04:30] <angel12> frogzoo, could it be NAT (name address translation)
[04:30] <radar1976> ok who has a fast apt-get mirror
[04:30] <HyperHacker> though that _was_ with Gentoo >_>
[04:30] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, the text mode isnt really about typing any commands -- it's about using a non-GUI interface called ncurses -- like that of a BIOS
[04:30] <HyperHacker> thanks for the link anyway
[04:30] <cyphase> http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/16/time.you.tm/index.html
[04:30] <radar1976> archive.ubuntu.com is slowwwwwwww
[04:30] <HyperHacker> I might do it that way if need be, this hard drive's unimportant ;-)
[04:30] <frogzoo> angel12: no, you need nat unless you have a static ip
[04:30] <un_operateur1> radar1976, you can use a local mirror instead
[04:31] <superkirbyartist> Every time I restart Ubuntu my "/dev/modem" disappears and I have to reinstall the drivers.
[04:31] <niall> what is libdvdcss
[04:31] <niall> ?
[04:31] <HyperHacker> superkirbyartist, get broadband? ;-)
[04:31] <Gibbonz> dvd decryption
[04:31] <bruenig> !libdvdcss
[04:31] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:31] <angel12> niall, lets you play dvd's
[04:31] <arrenlex> niall: A library to decrypt DVDs.
[04:31] <wastrel> superkirbyartist:  you probably just need to set the driver to start @ boot time
[04:31] <HyperHacker> lol
[04:31] <arrenlex> niall: And thus, not legal is most places.
[04:31] <Gibbonz> lets you play commercial DVDs
[04:31] <radar1976> woohoo
[04:31] <niall> why do I need it why does ubuntu not just come with it
[04:31] <niall> ?
[04:31] <HyperHacker> I was going to answer niall but you people are just too dang fast
[04:31] <angel12> frogzoo, then i dont see anything for dns
[04:32] <frogzoo> superkirbyartist: can you use the real /dev/tty## instead of /dev/modem?
[04:32] <arrenlex> niall: Because it is not legal in most places. xD
[04:32] <radar1976> ok   that was good switch...  I switched wireless cards
[04:32] <radar1976> hehehe
[04:32] <Gibbonz> because of license restrictions, legal implications
[04:32] <wastrel> superkirbyartist:  do you know the name of the driver ?   you can add it to /etc/modules
[04:32] <superkirbyartist> I know, it's slow, but I need to use it sometimes, depending on my location.
[04:32] <Gibbonz> etc..
[04:32] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, its the bot talking :)
[04:32] <frogzoo> angel12: k, well look for a firmware upgrade for your router
[04:32] <niall> but I got the disc from blockbuster how is it not legal?
[04:32] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: no worky, i bet theres a kernel command to disable that eh?
[04:32] <HyperHacker> yeah, but a bunch of other people replied too, heh
[04:33] <wastrel> superkirbyartist:  or you could manually load the driver with modprobe prolly, if you don't need it running all the time.
[04:33] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, what you could try doing is probably disabling the ACPI daemon totally
[04:33] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: ok, how?
[04:33] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, i dont use gnome -- but i do know its in the services manager
[04:33] <arrenlex> niall: That's how the DMCA works.
[04:33] <dabaR> niall: the program that decrypts dvds in ubuntu or pretty much any distro is illegal in some countries.
[04:33] <ezerhoden> does ubuntu have a package for xproto?
[04:33] <arrenlex> niall: I don't agree with it, I'm just saying that's how it is.
[04:33] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: ok, lemme look
[04:33] <Gibbonz> the disc is legal, playing it back on an unlicenesed player is
[04:33] <ezerhoden> or a packages containing xproto?
[04:34] <Gibbonz> unlicensed*
[04:34] <niall> oh I get it
[04:34] <niall> thanks
[04:34] <niall> so I should change the player
[04:34] <superkirbyartist> It's Linuxant HCF driver.
[04:34] <jrib> ezerhoden: have you tried searching packages.ubuntu.com?
[04:34] <dabaR> niall: you should follow the instructions given above
[04:35] <ezerhoden> jrib, will do , thanks
[04:35] <jrib> ezerhoden: x11proto-core-dev is what you want I think
[04:35] <niall> I tried to find libdvdcss @ http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages but its not ther
[04:35] <niall> its cool
[04:35] <wastrel> superkirbyartist:  do you know the name of the driver file ?
[04:35] <Gibbonz> linux cannot legally include it because to do so would mean someone having to pay royalties for the decryption stuff
[04:35] <ezerhoden> jrib, thanks, its for a m8
[04:35] <niall> ahh
[04:35] <niall> i see
[04:35] <Gibbonz> ie, just not possible for a community project
[04:36] <un_operateur1> maybe ubuntu doesnt include it because of fears of being prosecuted against
[04:36] <niall> thanks for your help
[04:36] <arrenlex> niall: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[04:37] <Gibbonz> libdvdcss is the only way to play commercial DVDs at the moment, until such time the law/licensing changes
[04:37] <GenNMX> Hmmm how good is partimage? I'm thinking for full backups, one compressed image per month might be better then just tar.
[04:37] <mikebot> is there a free program on windows i can use to watch tv? (if i have a card witha  coax slot)?
[04:37] <HyperHacker> AHA
[04:37] <HyperHacker> it didn't hang this time :-)
[04:37] <un_operateur1> mikebot, errm, this isnt #windows  :)
[04:38] <mikebot> un_operateur1: sorry
[04:38] <mikebot> un_operateur1: can you help me with ubuntu then?
[04:38] <un_operateur1> np .. just making sure you're in the right room
[04:38] <phxheat> hi, how can i install/emulate ubuntu in windows xp?
[04:38] <HyperHacker> mikebot, it's called Ubuntu in VMWare ;-)
[04:38] <un_operateur1> mikebot, playing TV on ubntu?
[04:38] <HyperHacker> pxheat, same answer, lol
[04:38] <arrenlex> phxheat: By using vmware, or microsoft virtual pc, or qemu.
[04:38] <phxheat> weird timing
[04:39] <mikebot> i'mt rying to get my dsl working on it, but when i do 'sudo pppoeconf' i get something that says 'Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access Controller of your provider did not respdon...'
[04:39] <arrenlex> phxheat: Or other such thing.
[04:39] <mikebot> un_operateur1: well i want to use mythtv on ubuntu
[04:39] <mikebot> but i can't download it cause i can't get the internet working yet
[04:39] <dabaR> arrenlex: click your link above.
[04:39] <un_operateur1> mikebot, hmm -- are you sure your link's a PPPoE link?
[04:39] <Arithmomaniac> I'm a newbie on my Windows side right now. Is there no way to enable network PlugnPlay support like there is in windows?
[04:40] <mikebot> un_operateur1: not sure what that even means--i'm using dsl (SBCIS)
[04:40] <DaRkNeSS|> wow lots of people here
[04:40] <Gibbonz> i cant see blu-ray taking off with all the restrictions it has, i thought HD in general was bad ;p
[04:40] <un_operateur1> mikebot, do you use a router or cable modem ??
[04:40] <mikebot> un_operateur1: and i have like a dsl modem; and i have to use a username and passwrod for it
[04:40] <HyperHacker> un_operateur1, PPPoE = Point-to-Point over Ethernet
[04:40] <DaRkNeSS|> so im running windows xp and some friends from a quake mod were telling me about ubuntu
[04:40] <HyperHacker> that's all I know about it
[04:40] <DaRkNeSS|> showing me screenshots and stuff
[04:40] <arrenlex> dabaR, my bad, thank you.
[04:40] <un_operateur1> mikebot, yea, thats probably PPPoE
[04:40] <mikebot> i don't know if it's a modem or router...i plug the phone line into it and from that the ternet to my computer
[04:40] <HyperHacker> Gibbonz, agreed... not buying from Sony anymore
[04:40] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, thanks, i do know what it is :)
[04:40] <arrenlex> dabar, niall: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[04:40] <DaRkNeSS|> is it an easy installation
[04:41] <Arithmomaniac> For example, on a random DSL network, it autoconnects in windows (and even in DSL) but does not in ubuntu
[04:41] <dabaR> arrenlex: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl never allows downloads, as I found out the same way you just did:) niall seems to be gone
[04:41] <arrenlex> Oh, so he does. Oh well.
[04:41] <arrenlex> dabaR: Now I know.
[04:41] <mikebot> un_operateur1: Do you know how I can fix that error?
[04:41] <un_operateur1> mikebot, so its a phone line -- not cable eh?? that might be PPPoA rather than PPPoE
[04:41] <Gibbonz> i'm curious as to whats gonna happen with hd-dvd though... not seen anything on that yet
[04:42] <HyperHacker> I think HD-DVD is a sure win
[04:42] <mikebot> un_operateur1: yikes, I don't know--I don't plug the phone line into my computer, but into the 'box', and form that an eternet to my computer
[04:42] <HyperHacker> the tech-savvy know why to avoid Blu-ray
[04:42] <HyperHacker> the rest will buy it because of the name
[04:42] <mikebot> un_operateur1: PPPoE sounds familiar though
[04:42] <Gibbonz> thats a good point ;p
[04:42] <un_operateur1> mikebot, errm, how does the modem connect to computer?
[04:42] <briguyd> neither of my disc drives work
[04:42] <DaRkNeSS|> anyone?
[04:42] <HyperHacker> if HD-TV = TV but better, HD-DVD = ?
[04:42] <nightless_> HyperHacker, bluray, i work at blockbuster, all major film corps have signed on already
[04:42] <briguyd> they spin, but they cant be mounted for some reason
[04:42] <DaRkNeSS|> is there an ubuntu chan for helping ppl install
[04:42] <DaRkNeSS|> or questions
[04:42] <HyperHacker> it's popular, no doubt
[04:42] <jrib> DaRkNeSS|: this one
[04:43] <DaRkNeSS|> well im asking and no one is responding
[04:43] <Gibbonz> and one can easily see why they would
[04:43] <jrib> !patience | DaRkNeSS|
[04:43] <ubotu> DaRkNeSS|: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:43] <jrib> hmm that isn't what I meant
[04:43] <HyperHacker> that's why now is the time for anti-DRM movements to start informing people of the hazards
[04:43] <briguyd> why cant i mount my cd or dvd rom drives?
[04:43] <mikebot> !pppoe
[04:43] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:43] <DaRkNeSS|> im patient lol
[04:43] <DaRkNeSS|> im in no rush
[04:43] <nightless_> does anyone have a working cd drive and can post there fstab up on pastebin for me to take a look at?
[04:43] <nightless_> their *
[04:43] <jrib> DaRkNeSS|: sometimes people don't know the answer, just wait a bit and repeat maybe every 15 minutes so new people can see your question
[04:44] <mikebot> is there a place where I can look up solutions to different errors?
[04:44] <arrenlex> mikebot: What errors are these?
[04:44] <nightless_> mikebot, enter the error into google
[04:44] <advcomp2019> does anyone remember my problem a few days ago
[04:44] <nightless_> mikebot, usually works, or ask it here
[04:44] <HyperHacker> tsk, I forgot to plug the mouse in
[04:44] <jrib> DaRkNeSS|: yes, it's an easy installation
[04:44] <HyperHacker> how do I reboot Ubuntu without a mouse?
[04:44] <un_operateur1> mikebot, you didnt tell me how modem hooks upto computer eh
[04:44] <arrenlex> HyperHacker: Do you have access to a terminal?
[04:45] <HyperHacker> arrenlex, no, it's just started up and is sitting at the desktop
[04:45] <mikebot> arrenlex: I'm trying to get internet working on ubuntu, and when i do 'sudo pppoeconf' I get the error: 'Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access Controller of your provider did not respdon...'
[04:45] <jrib> mikebot: help.ubuntu.com bugs.ubuntu.com ubuntuforums.org are good starts, followed by www.google.com
[04:45] <arrenlex> HyperHacker: Press ctrl+alt+f1 to go to a virtual console. Then press ctrl+alt+del.
[04:45] <mikebot> un_operateur1: oh sorry, didn't see that. by ethernet
[04:45] <HyperHacker> ah, thanks
[04:45] <briguyd> can someone help me mount my dvd and cd rom drives?
[04:46] <HyperHacker> heh, virtual console
[04:46] <wastrel> or you can type sudo reboot
[04:46] <kishan> mikebot: try restarting the modem and try again
[04:46] <HyperHacker> can I play NES games on it!1!1?
[04:46] <HyperHacker> :p
[04:46] <Gibbonz> mind, i've still yet to see HD for myself. Probably wait till its been de-hdcp'ed ;p
[04:46] <wastrel> you need X to play nes games afaik
[04:46] <arrenlex> xD
[04:46] <dabaR> DaRkNeSS|: the installation is easy, yes.
[04:46] <arrenlex> !kiddling | HyperHacker
[04:46] <mikebot> kishan: I did that, and I also tried 'pon pppoe' or some such command
[04:46] <un_operateur1> mikebot, ok, errm, do you know the make and model # of the modem? maybe someone else out there has figured out how to use it with linux
[04:46] <nightless_> DaRkNeSS|, it's the easiest installation of any linux distro :P pop it in wait for it to boot click on install :)
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiddling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <DaRkNeSS|> finally someone asks
[04:46] <arrenlex> Whoa.
[04:46] <arrenlex> !kidding | HyperHacker
[04:46] <ubotu> HyperHacker: You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)
[04:46] <anddreaz> hi
[04:46] <DaRkNeSS|> i jus thad some questions though
[04:46] <arrenlex> Although wastrel should have known better.
[04:47] <DaRkNeSS|> do i need to back up all my files then put them back on after installing
[04:47] <christiane> Hello. Does anyone know why /etc/init.d/cryptsetup complains about wrong passphrase w/o asking for one when started at boot?
[04:47] <HyperHacker> heh
[04:47] <DaRkNeSS|> or will it save the files
[04:47] <mikebot> un_operateur1: Yeah, it's a Westell WireSpeed, I use it for SBCIS (Pacbell dsl)
[04:47] <kishan> mikebot: sudo ifconfig iwconfig  paste bin it
[04:47] <wims> i just installed mysql, shouldn't i have mysql_config ?
[04:47] <dabaR> DaRkNeSS|: it should save the files, but backups are just that, back ups for just in case.
[04:48] <un_operateur1> mikebot, do you have the specific model # ??
[04:48] <dabaR> DaRkNeSS|: so, I never had trouble, but always backed up important data
[04:48] <mikebot> kishan: is that all one line?
[04:48] <advcomp2019> i had a hibernate issue a few days ago. some one gave me a fix, but it worked for three restarts. now it will not go into hibernate again.
[04:48] <DaRkNeSS|> im not that smart with computers compared to you guys.. what are my chances of messing my comp up
[04:49] <christiane> The onl yline in /etc/crypttab is "luks-name   /dev/sda8    none    luks"
[04:49] <mikebot> un_operateur1: it's a relaly long model number
[04:49] <ubut> I am on livecd; how to mount /dev/hdd5 so that users other than root can access it?
[04:49] <HyperHacker> mikebot, type "sudo ifconfig iwconfig" in your console and post the result on pastebin
[04:49] <dabaR> DaRkNeSS|: on a scale or in percentage, and would you like it calculated using the werner method, or the pithagoras theorem?
[04:49] <un_operateur1> mikebot -- the first 2 parts ought to do like -- A90-210030
[04:50] <un_operateur1> HyperHacker, he isnt using wireless dude
[04:50] <advcomp2019> does any one know why hibernate does not work again
[04:50] <dabaR> DaRkNeSS|: you have an OK chance of everything working great, if you ask before you do anything you are not sure of.
[04:50] <nightless_> guys this cdrom thing is irking me to no end, im fooled with fstab ive even tried good ole' sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom but it still says no meduim found
[04:50] <radar1976> well  no fast mirrors
[04:50] <HyperHacker> I was just clarifying what kishan told him :-/
[04:50] <ubut> I am on livecd; how to mount /dev/hdd5 so that users other than root can access it?
[04:50] <un_operateur1> radar1976, what speeds are you getting?
[04:50] <nightless_> is there documentation _specifically_ for ubuntu edgy disc drives?
[04:50] <DaRkNeSS|> if i were to get on this server with my laptop while installing on my desktop, could people help me if some problem comes up?
[04:50] <ubut> anyone?
[04:51] <master_tux> hmm?
[04:51] <nightless_> DaRkNeSS|, we will try :)
[04:51] <un_operateur1> nightless_, have you tried another CD ?? perhaps that particular CD is a bit iffy
[04:51] <nightless_> un_operateur1, it's a WoW cd, official not burned
[04:51] <christiane> Calling cryptsetup manually works. Is there an error in the crypttab line?
[04:51] <ubut> anyone see my question?
[04:51] <un_operateur1> nightless_, still --
[04:51] <radar1976> 34k/sec
[04:52] <advcomp2019> does anyone see me typing
[04:52] <master_tux> ubut: please say it again?
[04:52] <nightless_> un_operateur1, sure ill try another
[04:52] <jrib> advcomp2019: yes
[04:52] <un_operateur1> radar1976, whoa -- you should be getting atleast 10x that
[04:52] <ubut> master_tux:  I am on livecd; how to mount /dev/hdd5 so that users other than root can access it?
[04:52] <master_tux> change the permission
[04:52] <radar1976> I knoq
[04:52] <kishan> mikebot sorry type sudo iwconfig ; sudo ifconfig : pastebin the result
[04:52] <master_tux> you have gnome?
[04:52] <radar1976> err know
[04:53] <advcomp2019> ok.  does anyone know how to fix this hibernate issue that i had then i fixed then it came back
[04:53] <ubut> master_tux: how?
[04:53] <jrib> ubut: what filesystem?
[04:53] <nightless_> un_operateur1, i put in an audio cd and that autoplayed O_O
[04:53] <radar1976> considering I have 800+MB
[04:53] <radar1976> I would like more speeds
[04:53] <pauliukas> Would a USB2 HDD enclosure work with Ubuntu Server? Anything to configure? Is it easy to do? How about Firewire?
[04:53] <un_operateur1> nightless_, so you see  -- some CDs are iffy :)
[04:53] <ubut> jrib: its ntfs
[04:53] <master_tux> jrib: I dont think that matters, if root can access it the others can to
[04:53] <nightless_> un_operateur1, ok but i _have_ to have these wow cds work, it's the only reason i own a computer :(
[04:54] <un_operateur1> wow is??
[04:54] <nightless_> yessah
[04:54] <master_tux> ubut: type man chmod in a shell
[04:54] <jrib> ubut: sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hda5 /media/windows    I think...
[04:54] <un_operateur1> nightless_, you mentioned CDs as in plural -- try another wow CD
[04:55] <ubut> ok thanks..
[04:55] <DaRkNeSS|> well thanks for not helping
[04:55] <DaRkNeSS|> im going to the other server
[04:55] <DaRkNeSS|> irc.quakenet.org #ubuntu
[04:55] <radar1976> so any server faster? I have 10MBit connection
[04:55] <master_tux> ubut: just read what the manual says for chmod, it will tell you what you need to know
[04:55] <thcrw8383> dose anyone know where i can find the login/logoff sounds from Ubuntu 6.06?
[04:55] <un_operateur1> thcrw8383, locate login.wav   i think
[04:56] <un_operateur1> /usr/share/sounds
[04:56] <ubut> master_tux: if that is a ext* parttion, i do chmod as u said, files are on that parttion will change permision when i unmouted?
[04:56] <thcrw8383> I mean the sound files
[04:56] <radar1976> dammit
[04:56] <un_operateur1> radar1976, maybe you could try uk.archive.ubuntu.com or jp..
[04:56] <nightless_> un_operateur1, cd2 mounted ok :(
[04:56] <master_tux> ubut: you said you have NTFS file system, so you cannot edit permissions permenently without ntfs tools
[04:56] <nightless_> un_operateur1, this is not good, i need cd1 :( :(
[04:57] <un_operateur1> nightless_, errm .. are you sure that CD works well elsewhere? on another computer?
[04:57] <radar1976> ok  uk. is 45k/sec
[04:57] <jrib> master_tux: if it's ntfs he shouldn't chmod after mounting, he should just mount with a proper umask
[04:57] <CreativeEmbassy> Alright, I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.06 I'm running right now, what's the quickest route to 6.10?
[04:57] <ifti> Hi
[04:57] <un_operateur1> maybe your CD-rom drive is on its last legs?
[04:57] <ifti> I'm in a bit of jam
[04:57] <nightless_> un_operateur1, yes perfectly, and theres not a single nick or scratch this is only the second time ive ever taken it from its case
[04:57] <master_tux> jrib: i find it easier to use chmod....
[04:57] <christiane> If I run `/etc/init.d/cryptdisks start` manually from init 2 o
[04:58] <christiane> it works too
[04:58] <nightless_> un_operateur1, its possible :(
[04:58] <arrenlex> !update | CreativeEmbassy
[04:58] <ubotu> CreativeEmbassy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:58] <jrib> master_tux: how?  you have to chmod everytime then.  If you stick the umask in your fstab then you don't worry about it
[04:58] <ifti> I just installed ubuntu 6.06 on my IBM T30, and in the process of trying to get my wireless card to work I somehow screwed up my network settings
[04:58] <un_operateur1> nightless_, one sec
[04:58] <master_tux> jrib: he has a live cd, he cannot do that
[04:58] <ifti> with the effect that I can't connect even through the built in NIC
[04:58] <jrib> master_tux: right
[05:00] <Gibbonz> so -o remount,umask=0222 then perhaps :)
[05:00] <ifti> I've been typing /etc/init.d/networking restart in the terminal
[05:00] <frogzoo> CreativeEmbassy: best way to move to 6.10 imo is to just clean install
[05:00] <christiane> What is missing in runlevel 1 that cryptsetup doesn't ask for passphrase?
[05:00] <ifti> and getting ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate:permision denied
[05:01] <un_operateur1> iftu -- did you forget to sudo that command?
[05:01] <Gibbonz> using sudo?
[05:01] <nightless_> un_operateur1, got it mounted
[05:01] <Gibbonz> lol
[05:01] <nightless_> un_operateur1, must be the cdromdrive
[05:01] <ifti> oh sorry
[05:01] <ifti> I have been sudo ing it
[05:01] <un_operateur1> nightless_, yea, it's quite likely
[05:01] <ifti> I just forgot to type that in the message
[05:02] <ifti> so I still can't get connected to my network
[05:02] <ifti> it was working fine when I first installed
[05:02] <radar1976> *screams*
[05:02] <frogzoo> ifti: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:02] <radar1976> I need faster speeds
[05:02] <ifti> frogzoo: I've been doing that
[05:02] <un_operateur1> radar, you could try either of the kr or jp mirrors -- they tend to be quite speedy
[05:03] <ifti> and it says OK
[05:03] <mikebo1> OK, how do i use pastebin?
[05:03] <ifti> but still can't connect
[05:03] <wastrel> ifti:  your /etc/network/interfaces is probably not configured correctly for your NIC
[05:03] <ifti> Wastrel: what do I put in it?
[05:03] <mikebo1> !pastebin
[05:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:03] <un_operateur1> mikebo1, paste your code in .. and submit it -- it gives you a url to use
[05:03] <ifti> is there some default settings for it
[05:04] <radar1976> oh much better
[05:04] <advcomp2019> if the NIC is a broadcom NIC i have had issues with wired and wireless one.
[05:04] <wastrel> ifti:  is your NIC eth0 or eth1 ?
[05:04] <radar1976> I'm getting 350k/sec to 400k/sec
[05:04] <ifti> eth0
[05:04] <ifti> it was working fine
[05:04] <ifti> until I tried to get my Wifi card to work
[05:05] <mikebo1> un_operateur1: HyperHacker kishan: OK, this is from 'sudo ifconfig' http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37496/
[05:05] <ifti> i think I screwed something up in the process
[05:05] <ubut> ops
[05:05] <wastrel> ifti:  do you have a dhcp server on your network or do you need to configure it manually?   what does  ifconfig eth0  show?
[05:05] <un_operateur1> ifti, you should be ok to delete the file and restart networking
[05:05] <HyperHacker> mikebot, I was just clarifying kishan's instructions, I don't actually know how to help you X-)
[05:05] <uffiole> hi. how can i find out what audio driver my system uses?
[05:05] <ifti> I have a DHCP server
[05:05] <ubut> i am on livecd (current daily) ; how to play mp3?
[05:05] <ifti> I can just delete the whole file?
[05:06] <uffiole> xmms works with oss, but mplayer does crazy noise
[05:06] <wastrel> back it up first
[05:06] <master_tux> ubut: depends on what music player you have
[05:06] <un_operateur1> mikebo1, I dunno why kishan asked you to do that -- its quite pointless at this stage
[05:06] <ifti> will try
[05:06] <wastrel> i'm not familiar with /etc/init.d/networking
[05:06] <uffiole> ubut: maybe mpg123 ?
[05:06] <mikebo1> un_operateur1: he told me to do 'sudo ifconfig iwconfig'
[05:06] <ubut> master_tux: i want to install it
[05:06] <mikebo1> but that gave me an error, something like 'can't find wireless'
[05:06] <frogzoo> ifti: ls /var/run/network/
[05:06] <master_tux> ubut: install your live cd?
[05:07] <un_operateur1> mikebo1, aye yea .. you dont have a wireless card do you?
[05:07] <ubut> yes uffiole; how install it or mp3blaster
[05:07] <jrib> !mp3 | ubut
[05:07] <ubotu> ubut: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <mikebo1> un_no
[05:07] <mikebo1> un_operateur1: no
[05:07] <master_tux> jrib: good one
[05:07] <ifti> I got ifstate
[05:07] <rockinchado> does anyone know what it is called if i wanna use the wired connection on my computer with my 360 to connect to the net using my wireless which is connected to the router      so essentially it would be like 360 --> wired --> my computer --> wireless --> internet        ?
[05:07] <ubut> master_tux: i don't
[05:07] <ifti> after doing ls /var/run/network I got ifstate
[05:07] <un_operateur1> !pppoe
[05:07] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[05:08] <master_tux> ubut: if you have ubuntu, then you have gnome, just browse through the players
[05:08] <mikebo1> un_operateur1: I tried to follow that, but when I did 'sudo pppoeconf', I got an error
[05:08] <ubut> master_tux: codecs are missing to decode it
[05:09] <un_operateur1> mikebo1, I dont use gnome/kde so i cant walk you through this -- but i seem to recall one of the network utilities in the GUI that was capable of configuring PPPoE ..
[05:09] <ifti> I can delete the file by doing sudo remove /etc/network/interfaces , right?
[05:09] <master_tux> ubut: look at what ubotu said ^
[05:09] <un_operateur1> oooo ifti no no no noooooooo
[05:09] <un_operateur1> dont do that lol
[05:09] <ubut> master_tux: so nowi want to install mp3blaster with livecd
[05:09] <ifti> ok
[05:09] <ifti> not doing that
[05:09] <frogzoo> rockinchado: it's called routing, & you might want to do nat on the linux box depending
[05:09] <un_operateur1> the other file
[05:09] <ifti> sorry I'm quite the novice
[05:09] <un_operateur1> the one in /var/...
[05:09] <ifti> ah
[05:10] <master_tux> ubut: use a live cd for disk recovery, or to sample an  operating system. Dont devote.
[05:10] <un_operateur1> /var/run/network/ifstate
[05:10] <un_operateur1> that one
[05:10] <ifti> gotcha
[05:10] <rockinchado> frogzoo,: aight thanks man i'll look around and see what i can find
[05:10] <craigbass1976> what's the switch to install all the dependencies for a package, or jsut apt-get install does it?
[05:10] <Red-Sox> Can someone please help me compile a program?
[05:10] <ubut> master_tux: its named "desktop-....iso"
[05:10] <un_operateur1> craigbass1976, aptitude install <package> is better
[05:11] <ubut> master_tux: so it aimed to desktop livecd
[05:11] <Red-Sox> This is what I want to compile http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/akamaru.git/
[05:11] <master_tux> ubut: umm your running this from a live cd, or windows?
[05:11] <frogzoo> craigbass1976: apt takes care of all the dependencies
[05:11] <ubuntu> un_operateur1: thx m8, disabling acpid did the trick, but .. thats prolly a hack, but oh well :)
[05:11] <ubuntu> un_operateur1: this is phlite_kontrol heh
[05:11] <un_operateur1> ubuntu, ahh, i was just gonna ask :)
[05:11] <theeren_> first time using ubuntu for me!!
[05:11] <craigbass1976> what's the difference bwtween aptitude and apt?
[05:12] <ubut> master_tux: live cd; i burnt from 'desktop-...iso'
[05:12] <un_operateur1> !aptitude | craigbass1976
[05:12] <fog> hi
[05:12] <ubotu> craigbass1976: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[05:12] <Red-Sox> theeren_: you like?
[05:12] <ttyfscker> any feisty users in here?  i cant seem to get anyone woke up in #ubuntu+1.. got a simple question here.. just need some general feedback before i go posting a bug report
[05:12] <craigbass1976> theeren_, how are you liking it so far?
[05:12] <master_tux> ubut: thats nice, but read what I said earlier
[05:12] <theeren_> great, had some issues getting my widescreen to work
[05:12] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, so it works eh?
[05:12] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: i don't mind hacks, i might have to look into it later, but it works lol, have a good one m8, thx for taking the time to help me out
[05:12] <ezerhoden> Red-Sox, if you are lucky it is as simple as unpacking the source, and ./configure --prefix=/usr then make and finally sudo make install
[05:12] <ifti> ok so deleting the ifstate file had no effect
[05:13] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, it is a hack -- well, kinda -- the service to monitor power mgmt is turned off -- so it doesnt work
[05:13] <theeren_> kinda managed to screw up xorg.conf
[05:13] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: ya, i use my laptop as a media laptop, so i select a .pls and close the lid heh
[05:13] <jrib> Red-Sox: don't install into /usr
[05:13] <ifti> is there some way of returning the network settings to default
[05:13] <wastrel> what's a .pls
[05:13] <ubut> master_tux: you meant can't use 'apt-get install mp3blaster' ?
[05:13] <Red-Sox> ezerhoden: So, first unpack the .tar.gz, then cd to that directory, THEN run "./configure --prefix=/usr" then do "sudo make install"
[05:13] <phlite_kontrol> un_operateur1: but have a good one m8
[05:13] <XiXaQ> Can I use win32 DVD players under wine?
[05:13] <un_operateur1> phlite_kontrol, sure -- will do :)
[05:13] <Red-Sox> Oh
[05:13] <master_tux> ubut: if you know how to do it, then do it
[05:13] <wastrel> ifti: what does  ifconfig eth0  give you?  (don't paste in here, just describe)
[05:13] <fog> how do i know if my video card is 3d capable ?
[05:14] <frogzoo> !appdb | XiXaQ
[05:14] <ubotu> XiXaQ: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:14] <ubut> master_tux: i don't konw
[05:14] <ezerhoden> Red-Sox, well, jrib advices not to install to /usr so leave the --prefix part off
[05:14] <jrib> !compile | Red-Sox
[05:14] <ubotu> Red-Sox: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:14] <ubut> master_tux: know* :(
[05:14] <theeren_> I am having some issues with internet connection, firefox is rather slow
[05:14] <master_tux> ubut: did you try what you siad?
[05:14] <master_tux> *said
[05:14] <Red-Sox> sweet thanks
[05:14] <un_operateur1> fog, usually it needs to have atleast 128MB video memory
[05:14] <kohr_> trying to get mplayer to play WMV
[05:14] <ifti> i get the MAC address, inet6 addr, up broadcast running..., and then some RX and TX data
[05:14] <frogzoo> Red-Sox: have you checked if the source is in the repos?
[05:15] <ubut> master_tux: E: Couldn't find package mp3blaster
[05:15] <manmadha> how to detect spoofed ips in our network?
[05:15] <jrib> kohr_: have you installed the w32codecs?
[05:15] <untony2> hi
[05:15] <master_tux> ubut: please google before asking questions like that
[05:15] <ezerhoden> Red-Sox, so, unpack, then ./configure then make, then sudo make install
[05:15] <fog> un_operateur1: so if its onboard and it didnt specify the videoram in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the 3d is not able to work ?
[05:16] <kohr_> jrib how where do i do that
[05:16] <ubut> master_tux: ops
[05:16] <jrib> !w32codecs | kohr_
[05:16] <ubotu> kohr_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <kohr_> jrib is it on the package manager
[05:16] <un_operateur1> fog, well, if it's onboard it probably isnt too good at 3d -- althought it'd work
[05:16] <jrib> kohr_: no, not in default repositories, the restricted formats page tells you
[05:16] <ubut> !sources
[05:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:16] <un_operateur1> 3d requires quite an amount of processing power and videoRAM -- and if you dont have them, it's an additional load on your CPU
[05:17] <ubut> which sources have mp3blaster?
[05:17] <kohr_> jrib thanks, i'll get those codec's
[05:17] <manmadha> how to detect spoofed ips in our network?
[05:17] <jrib> !info mp3blaster | ubut
[05:17] <ubotu> mp3blaster: Full-screen console mp3 and ogg vorbis player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.2.2-1 (edgy), package size 192 kB, installed size 640 kB
[05:17] <untony2> hey guys
[05:17] <jrib> !universe | ubut
[05:17] <ubotu> ubut: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:17] <wastrel> ifti:  so no ipv4 addy?  the interface isn't up.
[05:17] <ifti> huzzah!
[05:17] <un_operateur1>  http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe mp3blaster 1:3.2.3-3
[05:17] <ifti> i got it to work
[05:18] <wastrel> okey dokey  what did you do?
[05:18] <ifti> i had deleted "auto eth0" from the etc/network/interfaces
[05:18] <ifti> so I put it back in
[05:18] <ifti> and then did restart
[05:18] <ifti> and it worked
[05:18] <wastrel> that would do it.
[05:18] <wastrel> you could also have brought it up with   sudo ifup eth0
[05:18] <ubut> un_operateur1: oh neat; where add above line?
[05:18] <ifti> and ifdown, would turn it off?
[05:19] <un_operateur1> Ubut, sorry?
[05:19] <XiXaQ> frogzoo, I meant, If I _can_ run a win32 DVD player, will that be able to play dvd movies even if other applications cannott?
[05:19] <ubut> un_operateur1: i dont know how to enable that repo? :(
[05:19] <wastrel> yes
[05:19] <un_operateur1> Ubugtu, errm -- this ought to tell you - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[05:20] <mrkris> anyone here do ruby and notice any new introduced bugs in the latest updates from apt?
[05:20] <frogzoo> XiXaQ: have you installed libdvdcss2 ?
[05:20] <fog> thanks
[05:20] <craigbass1976> Anyone used sql-ledger? I've installed it but can't figure out how to fire it up.
[05:20] <un_operateur1> bugs in ruby shouldnt be down to packaging on the part of debian or ubuntu
[05:21] <Red-Sox> jrib: If untarred and cd to that directory, but ./configure doesn't work, any ideas?
[05:21] <XiXaQ> frogzoo, I'm not sure. I followed the guide on the wiki, but I'm still not able to view dvd movies. I thought I'd install a windows player...
[05:21] <jrib> Red-Sox: you probably don't have the dependencies you need.  look for a README or INSTALL file
[05:21] <jrib> Red-Sox: or read the errors from ./configure
[05:21] <un_operateur1> craigbass1976, locate | grep -i bin | egrep -i "sql.*ledg"
[05:22] <manmadha> how to detect the spoofed ip addresses in our lan ,,?it is possible?
[05:22] <un_operateur1> ^^^ might give you a hint as to which file is the executable
[05:22] <pauliukas> Hey guys, how can I bypass these "Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[05:22] <pauliukas> " and just get the stuff from the net?
[05:22] <craigbass1976> un_operateur1, nothing
[05:22] <mrkris> un_operateur1: gotcha
[05:22] <un_operateur1> craigbass1976, nothing??
[05:22] <un_operateur1> nothing to what?
[05:22] <wastrel> Red-Sox:  did you install build-essential?
[05:22] <un_operateur1> oh, sorry lol
[05:22] <un_operateur1> mistook you for another person :p
[05:22] <craigbass1976> Nothing returned.  Just dumped me back to the prompt
[05:22] <un_operateur1> my bad
[05:22] <malt1> I installed sendmail and for my path i put /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i and i restarted apache, and i sitll can't get it to send me a email on phpbb forums for email confirm, what could i be doing wrong?
[05:23] <ubut> vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <ubut> ops
[05:23] <faeryNatsuki> hello
[05:23] <malt1> I also opened port 25
[05:23] <faeryNatsuki> ^^
[05:23] <emun> hi, what commands can I use to open and edit the  /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <craigbass1976> malt1, lots could be wrong.  Sendmail is a big animal
[05:23] <Red-Sox> wastrel: No?
[05:23] <Red-Sox> wastrel: I mean...no
[05:23] <spinz8r> #easyubuntu
[05:23] <malt1> its default install craigbass1975
[05:23] <malt1> its default install craigbass1976*
[05:23] <wastrel> Red-Sox:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware#head-1b29c0c1fece0250aace8963607652a88582ba9e
[05:23] <un_operateur1> dpkg -L sql-ledger  maybe craigbass1976
[05:23] <faeryNatsuki> i need a little help, i'm looking for a good chat client different than amsn, gaim and kopete...
[05:23] <theeren_> i am having some problems getting vmware-palyer uninstalled, any suggestions where to start?
[05:24] <Red-Sox> wastrel: I'm installing it...
[05:24] <craigbass1976> emun, vi is what oyu want.  sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <master_tux> faery: ICQ
[05:24] <wastrel> good man, dumping a rank newbie into vi
[05:24] <un_operateur1> vi to a beginner .. errm
[05:24] <ifti> I have a Netgear WG511T wireless network card in my laptop, I used Linuxant to load the driver for it, and its working fine right now. How do I add WPA-PSK support to it?
[05:24] <Red-Sox> wastrel: After that's done, do you think the ./configure would work?
[05:24] <un_operateur1> maybe  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   if vi isnt your speciality
[05:24] <emun> thank you craigbass1976
[05:25] <ubut> how add "11:17:47 AM) un_operateur1:  http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe mp3blaster 1:3.2.3-3" to sources.list
[05:25] <faeryNatsuki> master_tux:  ICQ?
[05:25] <dustrh_> or nano
[05:25] <master_tux> faery: google it
[05:25] <screechingcat> any epiphany users here ?
[05:25] <wastrel> Red-Sox:  dunno.  you may need some -dev packages.
[05:25] <ubut> un_operateur1: ?
[05:25] <craigbass1976> emun, yeah, gedit would work too, and better I've found for bigger files
[05:25] <master_tux> ubut: why not go to the site, download the source, build and install!
[05:26] <craigbass1976> Anyone use postgresql?  Is it even remotely like mysql?
[05:26] <un_operateur1> ubut -- from a terminal -- software-properties &
[05:26] <compir99> anybody good a bash shell scripting?
[05:26] <markus> craigbass1976: depends on what you want
[05:26] <craigbass1976> compir99, I'm ok
[05:26] <theeren_> i am having some problems getting vmware-palyer uninstalled, any suggestions where to start?
[05:26] <kitche> craigbass1976: postgresql is closer to sql then mysql is
[05:26] <Red-Sox> Grr...there's not even a configure file in that directory
[05:26] <compir99> craigbass1976: may i pm?
[05:26] <craigbass1976> markus, I mean the commands to add users, do queries and what not
[05:26] <Red-Sox> jrib: There is a makefile
[05:26] <craigbass1976> compir99, go ahead
[05:26] <wastrel> Red-Sox:  is there a README or INSTALL   typically they contain installation instructions.
[05:27] <faeryNatsuki> master_tux: but i looking one able to connect to msn and yahoo
[05:27] <Red-Sox> wastrel: Neither
[05:27] <Red-Sox> wastrel: Maybe this is just crappy software :P
[05:27] <craigbass1976> kitche, ahh balls.  Looks like yet another learnign experience...
[05:27] <Red-Sox> In that case...
[05:27] <markus> craigbass1976: users groups and roles are not part of the sql standard afaik, at least mysql and postgresql are very different in this area. the sql is similar
[05:27] <Red-Sox> anyone know of any good OS X-like docks?
[05:27] <manmadha> hee i have strange problem .....I have installed vmware player .When i open that it is asking to open (*.vmx ) format.what to do now?
[05:28] <un_operateur1> SQL is a standard that both mysql and postgres try and adhere too
[05:28] <ubut> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo software-properties
[05:28] <ubut> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[05:28] <ubut>   warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[05:28] <ubut> Error: could not find a distribution template
[05:28] <un_operateur1> Ubugtu, hold on
[05:29] <manmadha> hee i have strange problem .....I have installed vmware player .When i open that it is asking to open (*.vmx ) format.what to do now?
[05:29] <ifti> can someone talk me through WPA for wifi in ubuntu?
[05:29] <dustrh_> !pastebin
[05:29] <ezerhoden> manmadha, get an image to boot
[05:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:29] <faeryNatsuki> manmadha: i think that file is something telling the vmware wich machine are you emulating
[05:29] <levander> Since I've upgrade to edgy, when I right click on the gnome desktop clock in the panel, and choose "Adjust Date & Time", it says "You are not allowed access to the configuration".  What gives?  I used to be able to do that on Dapper.  Is that the way it's supposed to be on Edgy?
[05:29] <faeryNatsuki> manmadha: you need to get one for the system you like to run on the VM
[05:30] <ezerhoden> manmadha, player plays images, it can not creat them, there are many free downloads available
[05:30] <un_operateur1>  ubut -- here are my edgy sources  http://pastebin.ca/281937
[05:31] <frogzoo> levander: it asks me for a password...
[05:31] <un_operateur1> i think only root can adjust date and time no ?
[05:31] <jrib> levander: type 'groups' in a terminal and tell us the output
[05:31] <manmadha> ezerhoden, from where i have to download the images?
[05:31] <frogzoo> un_operateur1: it asks for a passwd, & sudos
[05:31] <ubut> un_operateur1: looks ok. do i need to add all these lines to my sources.list ?
[05:31] <levander> frogzoo: what the hell? why does it just give me an error?
[05:31] <frogzoo> levander: can you sudo without problems?
[05:31] <jrib> ubut: are you using edgy?
[05:32] <un_operateur1> ubut -- aye, sure -- go ahead -- once done -- in  a terminal -- sudo aptitude update
[05:32] <un_operateur1> and then you should be ok
[05:32] <levander> jrib: levander adm dialout cdrom floppy audio video users plugdev lpadmin scanner
[05:32] <ubut> jrib: i am not
[05:32] <ezerhoden> manmadha, http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/
[05:32] <faeryNatsuki> boys, i need a good client for messenger and yahoo, able to use japanese, and different of gaim or kopete
[05:32] <jrib> ubut: then don't use edgy sources.list
[05:32] <alexicon> ummm
[05:32] <levander> frogzoo: yes, can sudo just by putting in password
[05:32] <ubut> un_operateur1: all commented ?
[05:32] <emun> I tried the command su vi /etc/apt/sources.list and it said unknown id vi
[05:32] <frogzoo> levander: how about 'gksudo xclock'
[05:32] <manmadha> thank uuuuu
[05:32] <alexicon> is ubuntu supposed to recognise my wifi card even if i install with it on ethernet
[05:33] <alexicon> im looking at network settings and i dont see anything about wifi
[05:33] <un_operateur1> no -- ubut -- uncomment -- and if you are using another distro -- i suggest changing all instances of edgy to dapper (or whatever)
[05:33] <advcomp2019> does anyone know a fix for my hibernate problem
[05:33] <un_operateur1> ubut -- you use vi ?
[05:33] <ubut> un_operateur1: yes
[05:33] <levander> frogzoo: I got the little dialog asking for my password, and now a little analog clock is in the upper right hand corner of my monitor.
[05:33] <emun> yes vi
[05:34] <un_operateur1> it's just a simple vi comamnd then -- s+edgy+dapper++e
[05:34] <wastrel> sudo , not su  emun
[05:34] <ezerhoden> advcomp2019, http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/24/1716222
[05:34] <emun> thanks wastrel
[05:34] <jrib> levander: you aren't in the admin group
[05:34] <frogzoo> levander: gksudo time-admin
[05:35] <nightless_> how do i find out what vertical refreshrate i should be using?
[05:35] <Kachingo> Howdy, I just tried to intall ubuntu 6.10 server on my pc, and it doesn't start up the OS. GRUB says starting up, and then it just reboots. Recovery mode does the same. Any ideas why this is happening?
[05:35] <frogzoo> nightless: should be in your monitor manual
[05:36] <ubut> un_operateur1: i don't use dapper ; using daily live 1211
[05:36] <nightless> frogzoo, and if i dont have the manual ^^.. nevermind if it can be found in a manual it can probobly be goooogled, was jsut wondering if there was a command taht got that info
[05:36] <un_operateur1> ubut -- what is that?
[05:36] <advcomp2019> i had it working in 6.06 but when i updated to 6.10 it does not work but then i found a fix but it only worked for 3 restarts
[05:36] <ubut> un_operateur1: i get from cdimage.ubuntu.com
[05:37] <frogzoo> nightless: there's xresprobe in the repos
[05:37] <faeryNatsuki> any kopete user here?
[05:37] <nightless> frogzoo, excellent :)
[05:38] <ubut> un_operateur1: daily-live/current/feisty-desktop-i386.iso
[05:38] <un_operateur1> ubut -- ok, well, if I were you -- i'd use these sources for now -- install your package and then comment them out
[05:38] <un_operateur1> if your using feisty -- then change all edgy to feisty
[05:39] <un_operateur1> s+edgy+feisty+e
[05:39] <Starcraftmazter> whats the linux equivilent of batch files?
[05:39] <Erb> why can't I save to /var/www/  ???
[05:39] <frogzoo> Starcraftmazter: bash scripts
[05:39] <un_operateur1> Starcraftmazter, a shell script
[05:39] <un_operateur1> frogzoo, could be csh or ksh scripts too :)
[05:39] <frogzoo> !permissions | Erb
[05:39] <ubotu> Erb: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[05:39] <un_operateur1> or any other shell for that matter
[05:40] <frogzoo> un_operateur1: or perl or awk or sed... ;)
[05:40] <frogzoo> or python or gtk
[05:40] <Starcraftmazter> how do you make and run them?
[05:40] <un_operateur1> err not gtk no
[05:40] <un_operateur1> :)
[05:40] <Erb> thanks, I'll look into it
[05:40] <frogzoo> un_operateur1: soz, tcl
[05:40] <murali> hi all
[05:41] <murali> can someone plz temme how to run binaries in linux???
[05:41] <frogzoo> Starcraftmazter: man bash, and 'google shell script'
[05:41] <un_operateur1> StaN[Work] , you just lump your commands into a file and save it -- run the script via  --  sh file.sh
[05:41] <frogzoo> murali: open a terminal & type in the path to the command
[05:42] <Starcraftmazter> ok
[05:42] <Starcraftmazter> what about PATH, where on linux do I change that?
[05:42] <un_operateur1> in your shells rc file
[05:42] <un_operateur1> usually ~/.bashrc
[05:42] <frogzoo> Starcraftmazter: unless you're an expert, leave PATH alone
[05:42] <emun> I am confused I was trying to add a line to the /etc/apt/sources.list  but the sudo vi ..... did not open the sources list
[05:42] <Starcraftmazter> I think I'll be right, where bouts is it?
[05:43] <un_operateur1> Starcraftmazter, in ~
[05:43] <un_operateur1> the home folder
[05:43] <lubix_> /dalnet
[05:43] <murali> frogzoo: its actually not a command.. actually i've downloaded the java run time binaries... but i dunno hou to install it on my system... its a .bin file
[05:43] <Starcraftmazter> ok
[05:43] <frogzoo> emun: sudo
[05:43] <ttyfscker> anyone here using feisty able to discuss something rather simple???
[05:43] <un_operateur1> !anybody | ttyfscker
[05:43] <ubotu> ttyfscker: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:43] <frogzoo> murali: best to install java from the repos
[05:43] <ttyfscker> !feisty | un_operateur1
[05:43] <ubotu> un_operateur1: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:44] <ttyfscker> thats why..
[05:44] <frogzoo> emun: are you a member of 'admin' group?
[05:44] <un_operateur1> cat /etc/issue : Ubuntu feisty (development branch) \n \l
[05:44] <foob> why is kubuntu dvd taking 10 hours to download
[05:44] <foob> isnt gettin a distro from bittorrent supposed to be super fast
[05:44] <frogzoo> ttyfscker: -> #ubuntu+1
[05:44] <emun> do you mean did I put in my password
[05:45] <ttyfscker> ppl im already there
[05:45] <HyperHacker> foob, BitTorrent tends to start slow, speed up, then slow down as it finishes
[05:45] <ttyfscker> have been trying to get someone to talk for an hour or two
[05:45] <un_operateur1> ttyfscker, just ask the question dude :)
[05:45] <ttyfscker> and nobody is saying jack sh*t
[05:45] <frogzoo> emun: 'sudo date' - does that work?
[05:45] <HyperHacker> and a 700MB download is going to take while no matter who you get it from
[05:45] <foob> HyperHacker mine hasnt sped up at all, it's been consistently at 40kb/s
[05:45] <foob> for the last few hours
[05:45] <HyperHacker> unless you have one heck of a connection
[05:45] <HyperHacker> you might have a NAT problem then
[05:45] <ttyfscker> my spellcheck in gtk apps like xchat and gaim are not working under feisty.. i have libgtkspell0 and aspell and all the deps installed.. and its just not working
[05:45] <foob> and i have a fast connection capable of 500kb/s on http downloads
[05:45] <ttyfscker> the question is.. can someone else confirm the same thing
[05:45] <murali> frogzoo:actually ther problem is tht i was surfing n on a particular page it asked me to install the missing plugins..since it was not able to install automatically it gave me the link to do it manually... n there u only have binaries or rpm's.. can we install thro rpm's on ubuntu??
[05:45] <ttyfscker> ?
[05:46] <emun> yes sudo date works
[05:46] <frogzoo> !restricted | murali
[05:46] <ubotu> murali: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:46] <wastrel> ttyfscker:  try installing ispell ?
[05:46] <wy> Anyone has experience with equivs? I've got problems with it this time
[05:46] <ubut> un_operateur1: how to run s+edgy+feisty+e ?
[05:47] <murali> thnx
[05:47] <un_operateur1> ubut -- in vi
[05:47] <ttyfscker> wastrel:: i am installing those now
[05:47] <emun> my  problem is  how can I edit the sources.list
[05:48] <hendrickvp> can some help me?
[05:48] <ubut> un_operateur1: at :/s+edgy+feisty+e ?
[05:48] <ttyfscker> wastrel:: i dont think this is going to fix it though.. we'll just see
[05:48] <craigbass1976> hendrickvp, what's up?
[05:48] <frogzoo> !helpme | hendrickvp
[05:48] <ubotu> hendrickvp: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:48] <craigbass1976> Has anyone set up sql-ledger correctly in ubuntu?
[05:48] <craigbass1976> I'm lost
[05:49] <IceTox> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37497/ <--- Any clue about perl anyone?
[05:49] <Shadowpillar> hrmm
[05:49] <hendrickvp> hey guys! I have a slight problem, I can not access mysql, and in ssh I'm not allowed to right files, only read.
[05:49] <Shadowpillar> I'm using dapper and what appears to be a pixart imaging webcam
[05:49] <un_operateur1> ubut -- select all the text you want to modify using the mouse
[05:50] <kuto> does anyone know how to install openmotif
[05:50] <Shadowpillar> none of the pixart related kernel modules load it up
[05:50] <ttyfscker> wastrel:: does ispell have anything to do with libgtkspell that is used in xchat / gaim?
[05:50] <un_operateur1> then press :  -- type in s+edgy ...
[05:50] <un_operateur1> ttyfscker, spellchecker seems to work fine all over here
[05:50] <ttyfscker> un_operateur1:: you in FeistyFawn ?
[05:51] <un_operateur1> aye
[05:51] <craigbass1976> hendrickvp, you don't just type mysql?  I've never run mysql in ubuntu, only fedora and cent
[05:51] <un_operateur1>  dpkg -l | grep -i spell | awk '{print $2}' | xargs
[05:51] <un_operateur1> aspell aspell-en dictionaries-common iamerican ispell libaspell15 libaspell15c2 libenchant1c2a libgtkspell0 libmyspell3c2 myspell-en-gb myspell-en-us
[05:51] <ttyfscker> un_operateur1:: your spell check is working in gaim and xchat?
[05:51] <compir99> simple question. how do u do a recusive chmod but you want to exclude a directory?
[05:51] <ianthepetrock> can i use vmware to run linux from another harddrive?
[05:51] <un_operateur1> ttyfscker, yep
[05:52] <ttyfscker> i have all that crap installed
[05:52] <hendrickvp> I've installed mysql, I'm going through the Admin tools on a mac from mysql
[05:52] <shaslap> anyone have luck getting eclipse to work on edgy
[05:52] <un_operateur1> ttyfscker, maybe its a feature you need to enable somewhere ??
[05:52] <wastrel> ttyfscker:  no idea.  but it's easy enough to install & see.  afaik libgtkspell can use either aspell or ispell
[05:52] <ttyfscker> no i have the feature "checked"
[05:52] <ttyfscker> im using the same /home directory as i had on my other installs
[05:53] <ttyfscker> so everything is pretty much set up the way it works in edgy ;)
[05:53] <craigbass1976> hendrickvp, I don't know then.  I've only interacted with mysql in a command line or with a bash script./
[05:53] <compir99> for example: chmod -R 775 music. how do i exclude for example jones?
[05:53] <kuto> anyone know how to install openmotif?
[05:54] <un_operateur1> compir99, errm   for i in `find /path/to/dir -type d | grep -vi jones`; do chmod 775 $i; done
[05:54] <kuto> how to run openmotif
[05:54] <ttyfscker> ill brb lemme see if this ispell fixed it
[05:54] <un_operateur1> for i in `find /path/to/dir -type d | grep -vi jones`; do chmod -R 775 $i; done
[05:55] <ttyfscker> well that worked whatever i did
[05:55] <ttyfscker> thanks guys
[05:55] <ubut> un_operateur1: then apt-get update && apt-get install mp3blaster /
[05:55] <pi-meson> What's the easiest way to get the debugfs module up and running on a recent dapper install? I could download a new kernel.org kernel and go through the whole build process (with make-kpkg and the like) but is there a faster way?
[05:55] <hendrickvp> craigbass1976 I've had alot of problems when trying to determine wether or not it is running properly. And when I use certain commands I can not execute, I get an error -- not admin--
[05:55] <un_operateur1> ubut -- yeppers
[05:56] <compir99> un_operateur1: work for files & dirs?
[05:56] <ubut> un_operateur1: my man; it is updating
[05:56] <hendrickvp> not a literal not admin but something along those lines
[05:56] <un_operateur1> compir99, that was just for directories -- but doing it recursively
[05:56] <un_operateur1> so yea, it ought to change files under the dirs too
[05:57] <craigbass1976> hendrickvp, so, you ssh into the mysql server, and you can't run mysql commands from that command line?
[05:57] <faeryNatsuki> how can i use custom emoticons in kopete? and how to download and use the one my buddies sent to me?
[05:57] <shaslap> i installed the eclipse package on edgy eft and when i try to run it i get an error of "!MESSAGE NLS missing message: initializer_error in: org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.messages" in the error log
[05:58] <hendrickvp> no, I'm at the command line at the box, and it does not work
[05:58] <Red-Sox[away] > How do i switch to kubuntu? y'know remove all gnome apps and install all kde apps?
[05:58] <craigbass1976> what os is running on the server?
[05:58] <Red-Sox[away] > sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop & sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[05:58] <refus3d> Red-Sox[away] : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <hendrickvp> ubuntu
[05:58] <refus3d> dont remove ubuntu!!
[05:58] <Red-Sox[away] > refus3d: Yeah but that won't remove all gnome components
[05:58] <ubut> un_operateur1: mp3player installed; i can't press F1 in gnome-terminal
[05:58] <refus3d> why do you want to remove the gnome one?
[05:59] <hendrickvp> might it have something to do with access control
[05:59] <Red-Sox[away] > refus3d: So it's like I installed kubuntu, I don't want all these gnome apps cluttering up my kde desktop
[05:59] <un_operateur1> ubut- errm .. thats unusual
[05:59] <hendrickvp> I seem to have the same problem with other modules
[05:59] <craigbass1976> hendrickvp, what happens when you type mysql?
[05:59] <un_operateur1> maybe a new instance is needed
[06:00] <hendrickvp> ERROR 1045 (28000): access denied for user 'bryan'@'localhost' (using password: no)
[06:00] <emun> how do you install w32codecs
[06:00] <ubut> un_operateur1: how play .wma file?
[06:01] <frogzoo> !restricted | emun
[06:01] <ubotu> emun: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:01] <un_operateur1> ubut -- errm -- i think you need the w32codecs package
[06:01] <kitche> hendrickvp: you are forgetting to use your mysql password
[06:01] <hendrickvp> right
[06:01] <Red-Sox[away] > out.
[06:01] <kitche> hwnseixkcp: you don't know how to  use your password for mysql?
[06:01] <hendrickvp> no
[06:01] <emun> how to get w32codecs package
[06:02] <hendrickvp> I just typed in what he asked
[06:02] <hendrickvp> I can login to mysql
[06:02] <hendrickvp> with my login and root, they both have the same password
[06:02] <theeren_> where can I get help with vmware player package (un)installation?
[06:02] <craigbass1976> kitche, I don't remember either.  I always made a .my.cnf file and had it in there
[06:02] <un_operateur1> enum -- try and install it --
[06:02] <shaslap> can anyone recommend a good IDE for java that i can use until i get eclipse to work?
[06:02] <hendrickvp> but I can not access the mysql from another machine
[06:02] <un_operateur1> aptitude install w32codecs
[06:02] <gaurav19> un_operateur1 Hi again. now, the problem is that though I got the partitions right, the installation does not copy anything to the dir dedicated to the ubuntu installation
[06:03] <kitche> hendrickvp: yea log in as root to your mysql
[06:03] <hendrickvp> k
[06:03] <emun> what commands do I use
[06:03] <gaurav19> so the user settings are not stored at all
[06:03] <kitche> hendrickvp, let me look up the exact commands to make sure I get them right
[06:03] <hendrickvp> k
[06:03] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, well, since you have that unusual setup -- you'll need to realy specify which partitions ubuntu is to use
[06:03] <ubut> un_operateur1: thanks you; playing mp3 now :)
[06:03] <craigbass1976> hendrickvp, Now I get your problem... That's because the user bob@localhost has privs, but bob@192.168.1.1 does not unless there's been another grant statement made.
[06:03] <advcomp2019> does anyone else know a fix for hibernate in ubuntu 6.10
[06:03] <Willtre> Does anyone know how to install a .run file...?  *Installing the game Tremulous*
[06:03] <un_operateur1> ubut - :)
[06:04] <daya> how can i find which file is executed when i click any icon in gnome, such as when i click shutdown bottom
[06:04] <un_operateur1> Willtre, try this ..  cat file.run | head -n 1
[06:04] <kitche> Willtre: sh tremulous*.run
[06:04] <noiesmo> Willtre, open terminal make sure the .run is executable then do ./nameoffile.run
[06:04] <hendrickvp> so what do I do to make so that I may access from my other machine
[06:04] <kitche> hendrickvp hang on
[06:05] <un_operateur1> ubut -- thanks :) but i got too many to get through already :)
[06:05] <hemanth> how do i install mplayer
[06:05] <kitche> hendrickvp: http://www.keithjbrown.co.uk/vworks/mysql/mysql_p6.php in that page it tells you the exact command ot be able to use mysql remotely
[06:05] <hendrickvp> forgive me guys I'm new to the whole command line stuff..... I'm GUI type of guy
[06:05] <un_operateur1> sudo aptitude install mplayer
[06:05] <Willtre> Thanks Kitche! Sh worked :)
[06:06] <gaurav19> un_operateur1 - I have 4 partitions now - primary (C 20 GB) then D(logical 19 GB) and E(logical - 1GB) followed by F (extended 120 GB)
[06:06] <emun> got message no candidate version found for w32codecs
[06:06] <noiesmo> hemanth, it's in multiverse repo
[06:06] <hendrickvp> tnx, I'll let you know if it work in a couple of min
[06:06] <ifti> gaaaah
[06:06] <ifti> no matter what i do i cannot get WPA to work
[06:06] <hobbesmaster> is there a way to boot the livecds to just a terminal?  i'm having trouble with the x server on the livecds with my video card (i just get dumped to a black screen).  I just need to mount my ubuntu install and write a new mbr and change fstab (for a hardware reason I had to change which controllers my sata drivers were on)...
[06:06] <gaurav19> I made 1 GB - E the swap space and installed ubuntu on 19GB - a; went fine
[06:06] <gaurav19> ^all went fine
[06:06] <noiesmo> emun, think its in multiverse w32codecs
[06:07] <eNaq> hey
[06:07] <eNaq> can anybody help me here with a problem i have?
[06:07] <kitche> hendrickvp, you want to do something like this mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES    -> ON vworks.*    -> TO newuser@192.168.0.2 mysql webpage has better documentation
[06:07] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, right ok -- so during the ubuntu install, you'll need to tell it to use /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda3 (second and third partitions)
[06:07] <emun> ok i will try it , will be back soon, thanks
[06:07] <hemanth> the command is not installing mplayer but just showing those installed
[06:07] <kitche> !ask|eNaq
[06:07] <ubotu> eNaq: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:07] <eNaq> ok... thanx... im new to this. :P
[06:08] <gaurav19> thats what I did. I specified them as "/" and swap
[06:08] <eNaq> i cannot seem to partition my drive right
[06:08] <advcomp2019> anyone please help me
[06:08] <kitche> eNaq: how do you have it partitioned right now?
[06:08] <levander> jrib: why aren't i in the admin group?  this is the original group I created when I installed ubuntu
[06:09] <hemanth> sudo aptitude install mplayer hasn't installed mplayer but just shown me those installed
[06:09] <jrib> levander: I don't know, just add yourself back
[06:09] <levander> jrib: I'm in the adm group, is that supposed to be different than the adm group?
[06:09] <nicholaspaul> Q: on a wireless machine, it will periodically disconnect. Opening Network Connections , deactivating the adapter and activating it again fixes it. can i do the same thing from terminal?
[06:09] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, right, errm, i've not dual-booted ubuntu -- but did ubuntu ask you where to install the bootloader
[06:09] <un_operateur1> ?
[06:09] <eNaq> kitche, can you open a private chat with me please?
[06:09] <jrib> levander: yes, admin is not the same as adm
[06:09] <kitche> eNaq: you identified?
[06:09] <noiesmo> hemanth, have multiverse in repos and do his for mplayer
[06:09] <noiesmo> hemanth,  sudo apt-get install mplayer mplayer-fonts mplayer-skins w32codecs mencoder
[06:09] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, nope, nothing like that
[06:10] <frogzoo> levander: you need both 'adm' & 'admin' - they're used for different things
[06:10] <levander> jrib: but, they're supposed to be two different groups?  It's not like it was called adm back in warty days (when I first installed this machine and have been upgrading ever since) and they changed it at one point to admin, but didn't change my user to be in the admin group?
[06:10] <kitche> eNaq: join #kitchetech
[06:10] <noiesmo> hemanth, after adding multiverse repos dont for get to update < sudo apt-get update
[06:10] <jrib> levander: I never used warty, but as far as I can remember (hoary), it has been admin
[06:11] <hendrickvp> k, so I typed in GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES on ncyou.* to bryan@% nothing happend
[06:11] <hemanth> what is multiverse repos??
[06:11] <levander> jrib: do you have an adm group on your box?
[06:11] <jrib> !multiverse | hemanth
[06:11] <ubotu> hemanth: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:11] <jrib> levander: yes
[06:11] <emun> w32codecs is not on my computer, did a search in for it in multiverse , synaptic
[06:12] <frogzoo> emun: read the link for restricted you've already been given
[06:12] <earthen> has anyone here installed java looking glass
[06:12] <Madpilot> ubotu, w32codecs | emun
[06:12] <ubotu> emun: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:12] <kitche> hendrickvp, did you try to log in remotely after you did it?
[06:12] <hendrickvp> yep
[06:13] <jfassad> hello everybody. is there any way to enabe 3d accel for the Intel GMA X3000 ? Im Running edgy.
[06:13] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, ubuntu did not ask me where to install the bootloader
[06:13] <hendrickvp> this is the error I got
[06:13] <fnf> Hi, is there any tool available to edit the GNOME's Main Menu, I tried looking at the XML config file but there's no documentation about it so I'm not sure where to start.
[06:13] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, sorry -- just had to do something
[06:13] <wastrel> fnf:  alacarte menu editor
[06:13] <nicholaspaul> is there a command to deactivate a wifi adapter?
[06:14] <levander> jrib: I don't even have an admin group on my system
[06:14] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, what i think you need to do now is edit windows c:\boot.ini
[06:14] <hendrickvp> Could not connect to MySQL instance at 192.168.0.33. Error; can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.0.33' (61) (code 2003)
[06:14] <Madpilot> fnf, Applications->Accessories->Alacarte Menu Editor
[06:14] <jrib> levander: what does your /etc/sudoers look like?
[06:14] <fnf> wastrel:Looks like it isn't inlucded by default in Ubuntu server :) thank you. I'm downloading it.
[06:14] <fnf> Madpilot: Thanks.
[06:14] <hendrickvp> when I ping host I do get a response
[06:14] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, I thought you missed the last message
[06:15] <jrib> levander: adm is for reading stuff in /var/log
[06:15] <frogzoo> nicholaspaul: iwconfig eth0 power off
[06:15] <levander> jrib: this line is in sudoers: levander ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:15] <Madpilot> fnf, if you started w/ Ubuntu server, then installed ubuntu-desktop, I'd think it would install alacarte too
[06:15] <jrib> levander: ok, then I guess that isn't the issue
[06:15] <cypher1> hendrickvp, is the MySQL started and listening for connections
[06:15] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, err no .. had to attend to something
[06:15] <nicholaspaul> frogzoo: and i imagine 'power on' would turn it on?
[06:15] <levander> jrib: you have an admin group on your box?  there's not even one in /etc/group for me
[06:15] <fnf> Madpilot: I installed gnome by itself :) it's nice to know anyway, thanks.
[06:15] <jrib> levander: yes, i do
[06:15] <hendrickvp> that would be a STATUS in mysql correct?
[06:16] <kitche> hendrickvp, forgot you have to issue mysqladmin flush-privileges command or mysqladmin reload
[06:16] <wastrel> i have admin <3
[06:16] <cypher1> hendrickvp, sorry i do not know of MySQL specifics
[06:16] <jfassad> on edgy alacarte is on System > Preferences > Menu Layout , I belive
[06:16] <kitche> hendrickvp, here is the documentation for mysql http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/index.html
[06:16] <jfassad> or maybe that's not alacarte. not sure.
[06:17] <hendrickvp> nope that is not working
[06:17] <cypher1> hendrickvp, please also try "netstat -an | grep 1433"
[06:17] <fangorious> is there a way to add custom modelines to the ddc info (not the device section in xorg.conf)? the fglrx 8.3x.x drivers vseem to ignore custom modelines in xorg.conf
[06:17] <Ciobin> hi to all
[06:17] <jfassad> So, anyone here using the Intel GMA X3000 video card ?
[06:18] <frogzoo> nicholaspaul: actually, my bad, that just turns off power management - you probly want 'sudo ifdown eth1 / sudo ifup eth1'
[06:18] <advcomp2019> now it is locking up during hibernating
[06:18] <hendrickvp> nothing happens
[06:18] <Ciobin> I've done a fresh installation of ubuntu and now grub dosn't start
[06:18] <Ciobin> how can I do to start my ubuntu?
[06:18] <Flannel> Ciobin: error? or what?
[06:19] <Flannel> !grub | Ciobin, first link, to reinstall grub (so you can boot)
[06:19] <ubotu> Ciobin, first link, to reinstall grub (so you can boot): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:19] <Ciobin> Flannel: No, cursor pulse only on my monitor. This is the only thing that I see
[06:19] <Ciobin> I've 4 hd
[06:20] <Ciobin> Windows on the 1st and Ubuntu on the 4st
[06:20] <Shadowpillar> I'm using dapper and what appears to be a pixart imaging webcam
[06:20] <un_operateur1> 4st ? :d
[06:20] <Shadowpillar> none of the pixart related kernel modules load it up
[06:20] <Shadowpillar> no /dev/videoX or anything
[06:20] <Ciobin> :) sorry for my english
[06:20] <Shadowpillar> only thing that's detected is the onboard mic
[06:21] <un_operateur1> Ciobin, it's ok -- it's 4th  :)
[06:21] <hendrickvp> when I use tcp in place of 1433,  it is listening
[06:21] <Ciobin> un_operateur1: ok
[06:21] <hendrickvp> but the tcp port 3306 is only local, 127.0.0.1
[06:21] <Shadowpillar> so anyone know?
[06:21] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, that might explain why you cant connect remotely :)
[06:22] <hendrickvp> yeh
[06:22] <hendrickvp> how do I change that?
[06:22] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, i think you need to -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low mysql-server  .. or edit the mysql config file
[06:22] <frogzoo> hendrickvp: change bind interface in /etc/mysql/my.cnf for ips other than localhost
[06:23] <matxxtt> I am having trouble installing VMware tools in kubuntu.. I keep getting a error saying a previous installation has been detected..
[06:23] <hendrickvp> when I try to change a file through ssh, I can load it, but when I goto replace the file on the server it will not allow'
[06:24] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, how are you editing it?
[06:24] <nicholaspaul> thx frogzoo :)
[06:24] <kuto> hi
[06:24] <kuto> how do i change my window manager?
[06:24] <hendrickvp> text editor in os x
[06:25] <advcomp2019> does anyone know how i can fix this problem and if not where can i get help
[06:25] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, the user you logged in as via the ssh servers needs permissions eh
[06:25] <sphorbis> when i try to log on to samba via winxp it just keeps asking me for my user name and password, what am i doing wrong
[06:25] <ubut> bb
[06:25] <matxxtt> I run the command in konsole sudo install vmware-install.pl
[06:25] <un_operateur1> so, you'll need to replace the file as root
[06:25] <wastrel> advcomp2019:  post the question on the ubuntu forums.
[06:26] <hendrickvp> I know, but I can't figure out how to get those permissions
[06:26] <wastrel> www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:26] <un_operateur1> matxxtt, err -- it should be   sudo perl vmware-install.pl
[06:26] <matxxtt> ill try that
[06:26] <un_operateur1> or simply   sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[06:27] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, the permissions should be listed in  ls -l file
[06:27] <kuto> how do i change my window manager?
[06:27] <advcomp2019> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/66637
[06:27] <un_operateur1> kuto, -- in the logon screen -- change "session"
[06:27] <advcomp2019> that is what i have. i had it fixed for 3 restarts
[06:27] <advcomp2019> and now it is back
[06:28] <matxxtt> that doesnt work
[06:28] <matxxtt> it says it cant find the script perl
[06:28] <nicholaspaul> In Screen, why is it that the DELETE key doesnt work? I get a msg saying 'Wuff! Wuff!'
[06:28] <hendrickvp> when I type ls -l  I get, total 4 .....next line..... -rw-r--r-- 1 bryan bryan 3515 2006-12-16 21:12 my.cnf
[06:29] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, and are you loggin in as bryan ?
[06:29] <hendrickvp> yes
[06:29] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, i suppose you have a local copy of my.cf right?
[06:30] <un_operateur1> the one you are currently editing i.e.
[06:30] <un_operateur1> ?
[06:30] <hendrickvp> yes
[06:30] <matxxtt> I did try sudo ./vmware-install.pl and it asks the for the password then it says a previous installation was detected.. So I get a failure
[06:31] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, then what you can do is  back the file up with   mv my.cf  my.cf.bak      and put this copy up as my.cf
[06:31] <un_operateur1> matxxtt, do you have a previous installation already on your system?
[06:32] <matxxtt> well I tried to install it before but it didnt work
[06:32] <hendrickvp> the only problem with that is... I can not write anything from my machine that I'm editing on
[06:32] <_tcc> Slight problem, while I was using the gnome-services manager or whatever, it crashed.
[06:32] <_tcc> Now I am unable to use it.
[06:33] <matxxtt> as I cant get 32bit color or a higher res than 1024by 768... I run everything at 1600by 1200
[06:33] <_tcc> "You are not allowed to access the system configuration."
[06:33] <_tcc> For some stupid reason.
[06:33] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, do you have root access at the server?
[06:33] <Flannel> _tcc: probably a lock file somewhere
[06:33] <matxxtt> and at the bottom of the vmware window it says you do not have vmware tools installed
[06:33] <hendrickvp> yes
[06:34] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, and you have no permissions under root too??
[06:34] <_tcc> Flannel, yeah, but where?
[06:34] <_tcc> lol
[06:34] <un_operateur1> i dont get it
[06:34] <hendrickvp> well, I should say that with mysql yes, with ssh no
[06:34] <wastrel> hendrickvp:  can you explain more clearly how you are accessing these files   in what way are you using ssh?
[06:34] <hendrickvp> k
[06:34] <Flannel> _tcc: probably in /etc/
[06:35] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, you cannot edit /etc/mysql/my.cf unless you have root privs ..
[06:35] <hendrickvp> I'm on a mac, using a text editor, the program I'm using is a GUI drag'n'drop called Fugu
[06:35] <un_operateur1> you definitely need root access
[06:35] <wastrel> hendrickvp:  so you're copying the file to your mac with ssh gui prog, then editing on the mac, then copying back over
[06:36] <hendrickvp> yes
[06:36] <kuto> un_operateur1: do you know how to start a session with motif client or start a session with just default X
[06:36] <Flannel> hendrickvp: sudo nano [filename] 
[06:36] <honda> has anyone expirienced an issue where their screensaver is always blank, even when you select another option?
[06:36] <nightless> how do i see the user list on xchat =/
[06:36] <_tcc> what a pain in the ass
[06:36] <wastrel> hendrickvp:  you will have to copy the file back to the remote system to a separate location, the user's home directory probably.
[06:36] <TGPO> nightless: drag the userlist open
[06:37] <matxxtt> This the 3rd time have tried to get a unbuntu distro to work and I cant install a damn thing
[06:37] <wastrel> hendrickvp:  then you will have to use sudo on the remote system to move it to the correct location.
[06:37] <un_operateur1> kuto .. i dunno if i follow you right -- what session is this?? a logon session?
[06:37] <nightless> TGPO, right just dont know where the user list would be to drag it, i figured it was just resized to nothing
[06:37] <hendrickvp> I got yeah
[06:37] <TGPO> nightless: on the right side
[06:37] <nightless> TGPO, ahhh thanks :D
[06:37] <hendrickvp> so I need to edit the permissions this way, for mysql then
[06:38] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, do or dont you have root access on the server?
[06:38] <_tcc> WTF
[06:38] <wastrel> hendrickvp:  the problem is, when you connect to the linux system with ssh, you have the access rights of the user you're logged in as.  this user can read, but not edit the file you are interested in.
[06:38] <kuto> un_operateur1: i want to log on to ubuntu like failsafe Xterm but with a window manager how do i do that?
[06:38] <_tcc> Gnome says I am not allowed to access the system configuration.
[06:38] <_tcc> I need some help.
[06:38] <_tcc> How can I remove this lock?
[06:38] <lubix_> wow
[06:39] <lubix_> i hate screen
[06:39] <kitche> kuto: it's twm is probably what you want but not sure
[06:39] <lubix_> i detached my tty sessions and got all messed up
[06:39] <lubix_> haha
[06:39] <hendrickvp> I don't think so.... When I installed ubuntu, I just asked for a username and I typed in bryan
[06:39] <kuto> kitche: how do i log in with twm
[06:39] <un_operateur1> kuto, usually you install the window manager -- and then change to use it at the logon screen the same way you change to a failsafe xterm or failsafe gnome
[06:39] <Flannel> hendrickvp: that's ok.  You have access as bryan.
[06:39] <Flannel> !sudo | hendrickvp
[06:39] <ubotu> hendrickvp: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:40] <un_operateur1> hendrick -- ok -- you'll need a command line ssh access to the server for this
[06:40] <un_operateur1> i think OS X has command line ssh
[06:40] <spikeb> yes it does
[06:40] <kitche> kuto: did you try the failsafe login think that is twm actually
[06:40] <hendrickvp> yeah one sec I'll pull it up
[06:41] <spikeb> last i saw, failsafe was no WM at all
[06:41] <hendrickvp> I believe it is terminal
[06:41] <hendrickvp> I'll try through it
[06:41] <Ciobin> I'm going to sleep... Tnks to all
[06:41] <un_operateur1> failsafe gnome is a wm, aint it? :)
[06:41] <Flannel> spikeb: there's "rescue console" which is a selection at GRUB, and "failsafe" login (at GDM), which logs you in without startup scripts
[06:42] <hendrickvp> go ahead I'm ready
[06:42] <kitche> spikeb: in X think failsafe is twm, but not sure on ubuntu
[06:42] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, first -- copy the local my.cf to a location on the server
[06:42] <un_operateur1> if you have any writeable location there
[06:42] <eNaq> im back
[06:42] <MSTK> excuse me.  i'm new to Ubuntu.  I currently have this error in my synaptic package manager.  Does anyone mind helping?
[06:42] <un_operateur1> !ask | MSTK
[06:42] <ubotu> MSTK: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:43] <MSTK> oh, heh.  thanks
[06:43] <hendrickvp> k again I'm I newb how do I copy
[06:43] <MSTK> The error details: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "  -- when I run that in the terminal, it says that the command requires Superuser privileges.
[06:43] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, sorry -- copy using your fugu/fogo program :)
[06:43] <Flannel> MSTK: put sudo infront of it
[06:43] <arrenlex> MSTK: Then run it with sudo.
[06:43] <MSTK> oh
[06:43] <MSTK> thanks
[06:43] <arrenlex> !sudo | MSTK
[06:43] <ubotu> MSTK: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:43] <hendrickvp> k
[06:43] <MSTK> ah
[06:43] <MSTK> that's what sudo means
[06:43] <MSTK> i've been typing it before alot
[06:43] <MSTK> I never actually knew what it meant =/  thanks guys.
[06:43] <arrenlex> MSTK: "sudo" = Do as SuperUser.
[06:44] <hendrickvp> so copy from my mac to the server under my home dir.
[06:44] <Flannel> !sudo | MSTK
[06:44] <ubotu> MSTK: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:44] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, that works
[06:44] <un_operateur1> :)
[06:44] <hendrickvp> done
[06:44] <un_operateur1> ok -- now -- in the command line session -- sudo su
[06:44] <Flannel> un_operateur1: no.  Please don't recommend that
[06:44] <hendrickvp> done
[06:44] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Please recommend sudo -i
[06:45] <kitche> eNaq: did you get it working?
[06:45] <MSTK> does anyone have any idea what may have caused the problem?
[06:45] <eNaq> um..
[06:45] <MSTK> it's fixed now, but I want to avoid it in the future
[06:45] <eNaq> lets open a private chat again please.
[06:45] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp,  mv /etc/mysql/my.cf /etc/mysql/my.cf.bak
[06:45] <arrenlex> MSTK: You (or something) interrupted the package installation process as it was happening.
[06:45] <kitche> eNaq: join #kitchetech again
[06:45] <user_> ubuntu 6.10 is running improperly for me, it will return to the login screen intermittently
[06:45] <eNaq> ok. Thank you.
[06:45] <user_> I googled, and found nothing
[06:46] <MSTK> I remember interrupting a package download for automatix (which as I have found is very bug-prone).  But not for synaptics.  Would that affect anything?
[06:46] <hendrickvp> I get a no such file of directory
[06:46] <arrenlex> MSTK: Yes.
[06:46] <Flannel> MSTK: automatix itself is liable to cause it's own slew of problems
[06:46] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, cd /etc/mysql;  ls my.cf
[06:46] <user_> I get the sense that there a package issue somewhere.... a conflict maybe but it nearly impossible for me to run anything without the gdm login screen coming up at exactly the wrong time
[06:47] <arrenlex> MSTK: There's only one way to install .deb packages. If automatix has to install any .debs at all, it had to go through dpkg, and interrupting dpkg produced taht error.
[06:47] <arrenlex> that *
[06:47] <MSTK> ah.  well, thanks guys.  The problem seems to have resolved itself.
[06:47] <user_> even failsafe terminal has returned to login
[06:47] <arrenlex> MSTK: Synaptic is a front-end to apt-get, which itself uses dpkg, so interrupting synaptic will give the same problems.
[06:47] <hendrickvp> k
[06:47] <MSTK> one must wonder why synaptics couldn't just run the command itself?
[06:47] <MSTK> all it needed was a password, right?
[06:47] <un_operateur1> Flannel, arrenlex why not sudo su??
[06:47] <spikeb> that is a good question
[06:47] <user_> so I've deduced there something very wrong at hand
[06:47] <Flannel> un_operateur1: because sudo -i does it, and is safer
[06:48] <un_operateur1> safer how?
[06:48] <user_> any ideas or should I just try some sort of reconfigure for x....
[06:48] <Flannel> un_operateur1: the same reason sudo by itself is safer
[06:48] <eNaq> #kitchetech
[06:48] <eNaq> man
[06:48] <un_operateur1> Flannel, is that it?
[06:48] <kitche> un_operateur1, it will keep a log
[06:49] <hendrickvp> \c
[06:49] <MSTK> hm...I think I just broke synaptics again =/
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> Apache is failing to load.  What log does that go in if an init script fails (even when run manually)?  The console output isn't helpful at all.
[06:49] <eNaq> gaim instand messenger is rather confusing..
[06:49] <MSTK> it says I have a Broken package
[06:49] <MSTK> so what do I do?  uninstall it?
[06:49] <arrenlex> eNaq: What has confused you?
[06:49] <kitche> eNaq: put a / infront of join
[06:49] <lubix_> eNaq: are you serious?
[06:49] <Gumby> tonyyarusso: logs are usually kept in /var/log
[06:49] <eNaq> oh!
[06:49] <eNaq> a/ #kitchetech
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> Gumby: yes, but do you know which?  (nothing obvious)
[06:49] <eNaq> oops
[06:49] <kitche> tonyyarusso, check the apache log it might say something
[06:49] <Gumby> tonyyarusso: um, usually its httpd or apache
[06:49] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: If a script is failing when you run it manually, run it with sh -x to see full debug output from the shell.
[06:49] <hendrickvp> so when I us the CD...... nothing happens just a new line
[06:49] <MSTK> eNaq: have you ever used mIRC?
[06:50] <Gumby> tonyyarusso: fairly "obvious"
[06:50] <un_operateur1> kitche, keep a log of what??
[06:50] <lubix_> it is busy in here all the sudden
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: Thanks.
[06:50] <eNaq> im a new to mirc
[06:50] <eNaq> unfortunately..
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> Gumby: Yes, those logs are there, but nothing good in them.
[06:50] <MSTK> Well, I was going to say that these commands are exactly the same as those in mIRC, but I guess that won't help.
[06:50] <kitche> un_operateur1, all the commands the user runs if you do sudo su it won't keep a log since su would have taken over instead
[06:51] <radar1976> dammit
[06:51] <un_operateur1> sudo -i doesnt keep a log of all the commands either -- so whats your point?
[06:51] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: I quote from the Gentoo wiki: Warning: The command 'sudo su -' is both redundant and unnecessary; this information is being provided in spite of the fact that someone needs to be beaten with a cluebat. There are severe security issues with this practice. It's a very bad thing to do. But, if you really are intent on shooting yourself in the head, here's the HOWTO.
[06:51] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, errrrr,, ok :)
[06:52] <hendrickvp> k, so I sudo -i then what?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: " * printf fail"  "fail+ /usr/bin/tput op"  Mean anything to you?
[06:52] <Flannel> hendrickvp: whatever else you needed to run. sudo -i is a replacement for sudo su
[06:52] <Red-Sox> Wow I done it this time
[06:52] <MSTK> sorry guys if this question sounds a bit ignorant.  But Synaptics claims that I have a broken package - sun-java5-bin.  What do I do?  Uninstall?  Reinstall?  Qu hago?
[06:52] <radar1976> I'm having issue with an upgrade
[06:52] <Red-Sox> I have KDE nd Gnome installed
[06:52] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/281992
[06:52] <Flannel> MSTK: reinstalling should fix it
[06:53] <radar1976> can somone help
[06:53] <nicholaspaul> Q: i'm trying to rename a file, a commandi made, and i want to hide it. I want to rename it with . at the beginning. how can i ?
[06:53] <MSTK> Flannel - the reinstall command is greyed out
[06:53] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: Not a thing. :)
[06:53] <wastrel> hendrickvp:  cp file.foo  /original/file/location/file.foo
[06:53] <Red-Sox> I ONLY want the Gnome apps, how do I unistall all the KDE apps at once?
[06:53] <TGPO> nicholaspaul: mv filename .filename
[06:53] <Flannel> MSTK: you were installing java via autoamtix?
[06:53] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: "printf" prints things. So that line means the shell is printing "fail".
[06:53] <nicholaspaul> TGPO: Cool.. thx !!
[06:53] <foob> crazy talk
[06:53] <hendrickvp> okay, I need to fix my permissions so that I can access mysql
[06:53] <wastrel> TGPO:  mv -i is probably better, just in case.
[06:53] <Flannel> MSTK: then remove completely.  And reinstall java by hand
[06:53] <Flannel> !java | MSTK
[06:53] <ubotu> MSTK: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:53] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: Which means that the script didn't crash; some logic in the script is making it print that.
[06:53] <MSTK> Flannel - no, I was marking Totem packages via synaptics.  While marking a conflicting packag it crashed by itself
[06:53] <wastrel> hendrickvp:  why do you need to fix your permissions?
[06:53] <TGPO> wastrel: huh?
[06:54] <MSTK> no, I didn't touch autmatix
[06:54] <Flannel> MSTK: alright, well, remove it completely anyway.  Then you can install it again later
[06:54] <wastrel> TGPO:  in case a .filename already exists it won't be silently overwritten.
[06:54] <MSTK> ah.  thanks
[06:54] <wastrel> TGPO:  just in case
[06:54] <hendrickvp> how do I fix my permissions?
[06:54] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: what init script is this?
[06:54] <TGPO> wastrel: ah I see
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: /etc/init.d/apache2
[06:55] <TGPO> wastrel: I forget that others dont alias safety nets in
[06:55] <wastrel> hendrickvp:  what permissions?   the permissions to write the file?
[06:55] <Flannel> hendrickvp: chances are your permissions aren't broken, 99% of the time changing permissions/owners just breaks stuff more
[06:55] <hendrickvp> lol
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: can't stop it either.
[06:56] <hendrickvp> Well how do I get mysql to listen then on all ips, not just local
[06:56] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: killall can stop anything ;)
[06:56] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: My own apache2 doesn't contain anything like it. Have you modified it? Could you pastebin the script?
[06:56] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, it's simple -- you change bind-address in /etc/mysql/my.cf
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: No, it's not running.  I mean the stop script also fails.
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: sure
[06:57] <hendrickvp> so I've opened that file, and I can just set the bind address to % correct?
[06:58] <un_operateur1> you need to set it to 0.0.0.0
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37506/
[06:58] <hendrickvp> k
[06:58] <kd7swh> how can I improve lag in my irc client
[06:59] <MSTK> i'll probably be reprimanded by an ubuto response, but...how do I get DVD playback capabilities?  Sorry if it's a simple answer.
[06:59] <hendrickvp> so I've saved that, I'm copying into my home file in the server
[06:59] <TGPO> kd7swh: get a better ISP
[06:59] <kd7swh> TGPO very funny
[06:59] <Flannel> !dvd | MSTK: ubotu response is hardly a reprimand
[06:59] <ubotu> MSTK: ubotu response is hardly a reprimand: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:59] <kd7swh> I know that
[06:59] <hendrickvp> now, how do I move the my.cnf file to the /etc/mysql/ dir
[07:00] <kd7swh> TGPO, I am on an academic network
[07:00] <gaurav19> un_operateur1 hi again, this time I am quite distraught... Once again, I tried doing the most common sensical thing.. the partitions and swap space set up .. I started the ubuntu disk and did an "install" everything went fine and it displayed the "installing" dialog, but then on restart I did not find anything on the partition
[07:00] <hendrickvp> and overwrite the current my.cnf?
[07:00] <TGPO> kd7swh: ah you took that as sarcasm, its not. a better connection is your only recourse
[07:00] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: No; it matches mine. Hmm.
[07:00] <gaurav19> un_operateur1 I am doing something very wrong, I guess you are the only one who can help
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: all right, what other files can we check?
[07:00] <un_operateur1> hendrickvp, in the command line session --- under sudo -i (or otherwise) .. cp -vi ~/my.cf /etc/mysql/my.cf
[07:00] <hendrickvp> k
[07:00] <kd7swh> TGPO, not sarcasm just a no brainer
[07:01] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, how have you arrived at the conclusion that there is nothing on the partition?
[07:02] <hendrickvp> cp: cannot stat '/root/my.cf' : no such file or dir
[07:02] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: I have no idea, sorry. = / I don't even run apache anymore.
[07:02] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, was it this page you were quoting from earlier?? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_SUDO_SU_-_in_X11
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: Uh oh
[07:02] <kitche> hendrickvp: sudo -i probably puts you in /root
[07:02] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: beyond reinstalling all the apache packages, there's no more advice I can offer you. Sorry. = /
[07:02] <un_operateur1> sorry hendrickvp  -- cp -vi /home/<user>/my.cf /etc/mysql/my.cf
[07:03] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Yes.
[07:03] <un_operateur1> where <user> is probably bryan in your case
[07:03] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: you might try asking in #apache, theyve gotten the job done for me in the past
[07:03] <hendrickvp> same error
[07:03] <hendrickvp> this is weird
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: I already asked.  No response yet.
[07:03] <MSTK> flannel & others - thanks for the help.  but when I enter "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh" into the terminal as the instructions say, the terminal responds "command not found".
[07:04] <MSTK> i'm guessing that entering a path =/= a command
[07:04] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, errm -- "sudo su -" is redundant in the case of gentoo because they can just use su - .. but su - has no effect in ubuntu and thats why we need a sudo
[07:04] <Flannel> MSTK: no, that's a command, with the full path.  I don't know what to tell you, I've never installed DVD stuff
[07:04] <ashley_> hey
[07:04] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, in windows env: I see 18.5 Gb total and 18.4 GB free - i don't see athing there, it can not be that windows is unable to see anything
[07:05] <spikeb> MSTK: the path is wrong for 6.10. it's /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-ss.sh
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Any other tricks to get useful output?
[07:05] <arrenlex> MSTK: Put "sh" between sudo and the path. That's the location to a shell script.
[07:05] <ashley_> does anyone know why the sound in ubuntu isn't as loud as it is in windows, and how to change it?
[07:05] <MSTK> spikeb & arrenlx - thanks, I'll try that
[07:05] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, dont count on windows telling you the size of a unix partition .. windows cannot read unix partitions
[07:05] <MSTK> ashley_ I'm guessing you already tried turning up your speakesr?
[07:05] <ashley_> yup
[07:06] <kitche> ashley_: either with sudo alsamixer or by the volume controls in your window manager
[07:06] <TGPO> ashley_: have you turned up the volume using the volume control?
[07:06] <ashley_> yes I have TGPO
[07:06] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, I'm guessing ubuntu has installed fine and all you need to do now is on this page here -- http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[07:06] <Flannel> un_operateur1: please give wiki pages (!grub) instead of random other sites, when possible.
[07:06] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/281992
[07:06] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, I suspected that, but was too confused, so I asked you. What do I do next, put ubuntu entry into boot.ini ? i guess i need the entry details
[07:06] <ashley_> Its at full blast but its not as loud as it is in windows
[07:06] <eviltwin> hi
[07:07] <Flannel> gaurav19: you'll probably want to install grub (it can boot to windows and linux)
[07:07] <un_operateur1> Flannel, it's no random other page -- it's one i count on :)
[07:07] <Flannel> !grub | gaurav19, first link gives you methods, and options
[07:07] <ubotu> gaurav19, first link gives you methods, and options: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:07] <eviltwin> I'm just setting up a 32 bit chroot on my x64 system and I was wondering where the gnome themes are kept on my x64 installation so that I can link them to the corresponding folder on my chroot so that the gnome apps look nice
[07:07] <eviltwin> qt info is also welcome, since I have skype installed in the chroot
[07:08] <MSTK> Sorry, guys.  I've tried "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-ss.sh", "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-ss.sh", and "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-ss.sh".
[07:08] <MSTK> It says "command not found" for the first one (sudo [path] ) and "can't open [path] " for the other two (sudo sh [path] )
[07:08] <croxis> i'm trying to use grub4dos on a floppy to install the server edition of ubuntu from a hard drive (short story: booting from cd doesn't work so I copied the cd to harddisk on a different computer).  grub4dos isn't loading the partition.  any help will be most appricated
[07:08] <MarcN> MSTK: is the file there?
[07:08] <gaurav19> thanks un_operateur, Flannel and ubotu..i will try out these
[07:08] <Flannel> MSTK: try cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/ (no need for sudo) then 'ls' to see what files *are* there
[07:09] <arrenlex> MSTK: I told you, put "sh" between sudo and the path.
[07:09] <MSTK> arrenlex - I did.  And it says "can't open [path] "
[07:09] <arrenlex> MSTK: I don't see any sh in any of those three commands.
[07:09] <MarcN> MSTK: it is install-css.sh (you have a typo)
[07:10] <MSTK> ah.  I copied & pasted wrong.  I ended up pasting the same thing three times
[07:10] <MSTK> but yes, I did indeed put sh between sudo and the command
[07:10] <Flannel> MSTK: when in doubt, tab complete ;)
[07:13] <kd7swh> lag...
[07:13] <Kwipper> Hello. I am a windows user and I want to try booting the live CD of ubuntu on my 2GB flash drive.
[07:13] <Kwipper> I copied the ISO files directly to the flash drive, and I can't get it to boot from my flash drive. It says "Boot Error"
[07:13] <Kwipper> What do I need to do?
[07:13] <eviltwin> welcome back, all >_>
[07:14] <vanberge> whoa
[07:14] <ashley_> lol
[07:14] <MSTK> that's odd.
[07:14] <MSTK> glitch in the matrix?
[07:14] <arrenlex> michael20la: ls | grep -v <filename> | xargs chmod 777
[07:14] <spikeb> yikes
[07:14] <un_operateur1> stoopid kids
[07:14] <jughead> mass exodus
[07:14] <MarcN> michael20la: you can put something together with find . -iname '*.c' -printf "chmod 777 %p\n" |  grep -v onefile.c | sh    or such (didn't try it)
[07:14] <michael20la> wow
[07:14] <arrenlex> ...oh, he's gone. xD
[07:14] <eviltwin> netsplit :P
[07:14] <eviltwin> ahhh
[07:14] <MSTK> yay!  DVD playback gone!  one less thing I have to switch over to Windows to do.
[07:14] <Kwipper> Hello. I am a windows user and I want to try booting the live CD of ubuntu on my 2GB flash drive. I copied the ISO files directly to the flash drive, and I can't get it to boot from my flash drive. It says "Boot Error" What do I need to do?
[07:14] <radar1976> grrr I can't get past this error
[07:14] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/281992
[07:14] <MSTK> Kwipper - you either have to burn the CD or mount it to a virtual drive
[07:14] <arrenlex> michael20la: Oh, maybe not. I tried mine. Go to your directory, and use "ls | grep -v <filename> | xargs chmod <hex>"
[07:14] <radar1976> someone help?
[07:15] <MSTK> via daemon or alcohol or something
[07:15] <Flannel> Kwipper: believe you need to extract the files in the ISO to the drive, not copy the iso itself
[07:15] <Kwipper> okay
[07:15] <arrenlex> Kwipper: You can't do it like that. It's a lot more difficult to set up a bootable USB stick than it is a CD.
[07:15] <Kwipper> I did that
[07:15] <Flannel> !install | Kwipper
[07:15] <ubotu> Kwipper: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:15] <Flannel> Kwipper: first link there should have a howto for USB booting
[07:15] <Kwipper> I extracted the ISO files and copied them to the HD
[07:15] <Kwipper> err
[07:15] <MSTK> I'd personally just burn the CD so it can be used as a tool for proselytizing.
[07:16] <Kwipper> I don't have any blank cd's
[07:16] <Kwipper> All I got is a USB drive
[07:16] <_james> what's the latest version of ubuntu?
[07:16] <radar1976> !version
[07:16] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[07:16] <MSTK> Edgy Eft, 6.10
[07:16] <spikeb> _james: 6.10
[07:16] <_james> oh.. im on version 5.10 how to upgrade to 6.10?
[07:16] <michael20la> arrenlex: thx it worke
[07:16] <arrenlex> !upgrade | _james
[07:16] <ubotu> _james: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:16] <spikeb> radar1976: download a courier-authdaemon package and install it, then try what you're doing
[07:17] <radar1976> I still have 830 packages to install... How to I get past this error
[07:17] <radar1976> I have the deb package
[07:17] <spikeb> use dpkg to install it heh
[07:17] <Kwipper> Wait a minute
[07:17] <Kwipper> You want me to use a virtual drivE?
[07:17] <MSTK> Oh, I just realized something.  Does mounting the installation iso file to a virtual drive via Daemon (etc.) work for a Live CD boot?
[07:17] <MSTK> I thought so at first
[07:17] <Kwipper> How do I get the virtual drive to boot in DOS?
[07:17] <MSTK> but then I realized that virtual drives aren't on
[07:17] <MSTK> when you reboot
[07:17] <MSTK> so I'm not sure.
[07:18] <MSTK> Anyone know how I can get the USB driver for my Yamaha Keyboard to work on Linux?  The distributor never included a linux version
[07:18] <Oni-Dracula> does alsa scale down audio quality under certain circumstances?
[07:19] <Flannel> _james: make sure you upgrade through dapper (5.10 to 6.06 then to 6.10), you can't go from 5.10 straight to 6.10
[07:22] <MSTK> can anyone help me?  I have a keyboard that requires a USB driver, but the distributor only included a windows version.  Is there a workaround?
[07:22] <arrenlex> MSTK: If your question is "how do I use a Windows driver with Linux", you don't.
[07:22] <arrenlex> MSTK: If your question is "is there a Linux driver available for this thing", google is your best bet.
[07:23] <vanberge> MSTK, normally you would just have to change something in your pc's bios.  like 'enable usb keyboard support'
[07:23] <vanberge> shouldnt need a driver for a keyboard
[07:23] <MSTK> I needed it for Windows
[07:23] <vanberge> MSTK, does your keyboard light up?
[07:23] <arrenlex> vanberge: He said earlier it's a Yamaha keyboard, i.e. music. Not typing.
[07:23] <vanberge> eh... sorry
[07:23] <MSTK> oh, sorry
[07:23] <MSTK> didn't make that clear second time
[07:23] <mm2000> how can i make .mov work in mplayer?
[07:24] <MSTK> I keep on forgetting the ambiguity between a music keyboard and a typing keyboard.
[07:24] <arrenlex> !w32codecs | mm2000
[07:24] <ubotu> mm2000: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:24] <_james> hello help pls. how to mount to my windows drive?
[07:24] <arrenlex> mm2000: Uh... more to the point, you have to install the w32codecs package.
[07:24] <arrenlex> _james: Mount read-only, or mount read-write?
[07:24] <mm2000> arrenlex: ok, with apt-get?
[07:24] <arrenlex> _james: read-only is easier.
[07:25] <arrenlex> mm2000: You'll need to enable the seveas repository.
[07:25] <arrenlex> !seveas
[07:25] <spikeb> there's almost no need for w32codecs nowadays
[07:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:25] <spikeb> real soon it can be done away with.
[07:25] <arrenlex> spikeb: Why so?
[07:25] <spikeb> arrenlex: free software implementations of said codecs
[07:25] <_james> i remember before there's this command fstab sumthing..
[07:25] <arrenlex> spikeb: For what codecs?
[07:25] <clayg> spikeb, really? awsome i am in need of them, give me some examples
[07:25] <arrenlex> _james: Mount read-only, or mount read-write?
[07:26] <spikeb> arrenlex: almost all of them - ffmpeg even has wmv9 support nowadays
[07:26] <clayg> I thought for sure there was a huge need for them and they are a major PITA for linux users, specially while trying to view pages with wmv content
[07:26] <clayg> but looks like you got it covered, tell me the packages i need to install for them
[07:26] <spikeb> clayg: it's still needed in the current release of ubuntu, but as i said - soon :)
[07:26] <MSTK> So there are no ways to use windows drivers on a linux?  Say like, a driver version of Wine?
[07:26] <clayg> ffmpeg? will it integrate in FF so i can view porn from 89.com? the free movies?
[07:27] <spikeb> clayg: the version of ffmpeg that ubuntu has doesn't do wmv9 iu dont think, so you're out of luck for now
[07:27] <_james> How to unzip "bzip2" format and "gzip"?
[07:27] <clayg> oh i guess i figured "almost no use for w32 codecs these days" meant something diff
[07:27] <clayg> i didnt take it to mean "no other alternative"
[07:28] <sosdiode> hi
[07:28] <sosdiode> how are we
[07:28] <spikeb> clayg: what i meant was that verys oon there won't be any use :)
[07:28] <spikeb> clayg: that's all
[07:28] <sosdiode> www.myspace.com/twithmilk
[07:28] <sosdiode> !list
[07:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:28] <kitche> _james, for bz2 you do tar -xvjf <file.>tar.bz2 for gzip it's tar -xvzf <file>.tar.gz
[07:29] <clayg> spikeb, sorry, just frustrated about the codec situation
[07:29] <arrenlex> clayg: You are morally opposed to watching porn with non-free codecs?
[07:29] <epagoge> there's a codec situation!? O_O
[07:29] <radar1976> ok  I don't want courier server
[07:29] <spikeb> clayg: if you install w32codecs that should take care of it
[07:29] <clayg> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[07:29] <clayg> ?
[07:29] <clayg> are there some specifics?
[07:29] <clayg> and is there a winrar type version
[07:29] <spikeb> that should be enough
[07:29] <anorexicpillow> is edgy really that unreliable?
[07:30] <clayg> i need something for some rars
[07:30] <spikeb> and rar is in multiverse
[07:30] <arrenlex> clayg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[07:30] <epagoge> clayg: if you want to find out if there's w32codecs, just type "apt-cache search <the thing you wanna find in the package listings>"
[07:30] <radar1976> How to I get rid of this stupid upgrade issue
[07:30] <spikeb> clayg: install unrar and rar
[07:30] <clayg> anorexicpillow, i dunno, tried it a month or so ago, very slow
[07:30] <clayg> on a core 2 duo
[07:30] <anorexicpillow> wow really? all ive read is how much faster it is
[07:30] <elljay> does ubuntu install on an imac?
[07:30] <TGPO> clayg are you running 32 bit or 64?
[07:30] <anorexicpillow> yah that could be
[07:30] <_james> arrenlex: what's the difference between read-only and read-write?
[07:30] <anorexicpillow> i believe so elljay
[07:31] <arrenlex> _james: You don't understand what the difference between read-only and read-write is? o_O
[07:31] <spikeb> elljay: it should
[07:31] <arrenlex> _james: In one case, you cannot write to the partition.
[07:31] <arrenlex> Is this not obvious?
[07:31] <epagoge> arrenlex: maybe he wants to understand at what level the read-onlyness happens? :)
[07:31] <amicrawle> what is the file i can preview in konqoro   my video files and music ?
[07:32] <epagoge> it would be neat if hard drives had a write-protect tabs
[07:32] <arrenlex> _james: Write on Linux is still "experimental" and harder to set up... it might (but probably won't) corrupt your filesystem. Read-only is super easy to set up (you don't even have to install anything) and is perfectly safe.
[07:32] <amicrawle> it use to index the video and show pic of what they were
[07:32] <un_operateur1> !ntfs3g
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <un_operateur1> hmm
[07:33] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | _james, un_operateur1
[07:33] <ubotu> _james, un_operateur1: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:33] <lufis> Is there anywhere i can get the new version of vlc pre-compiled?
[07:33] <epagoge> does ubuntu have an installer that can do what debootstrap does, but that setse up the install properly? :)
[07:33] <HyperHacker> so...
[07:33] <anorexicpillow> I have a question... I want to post a video to youtube which will just be a few mp3s and a picture slideshow. It was really easy on XP but I cant get it to work on Ubuntu.. any ideas?
[07:33] <HyperHacker> I put that TV card and a different network card back in
[07:33] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: Can't get what to work, exactly?
[07:33] <ajax4> Hey guys...I just installed Edgy and the screen is totally blank when it starts up and shuts down. Anyone know how to fix this?
[07:33] <HyperHacker> hangs again at "Loading hardware drivers"
[07:33] <epagoge> ajax4: try booting into text-mode
[07:34] <Otsuko> hello all
[07:34] <HyperHacker> apparently it won't start with _any_ network card
[07:34] <amicrawle> i use kde guys
[07:34] <anorexicpillow> well ive tried kino and that didnt seem to accept the mp3s
[07:34] <epagoge> ajax4: i think there's a kernel paramter for that...
[07:34] <HyperHacker> also, serial mice don't work
[07:34] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: Ah! Making the movie. Yeah, that's going to be a problem.
[07:34] <amicrawle> not with main actor
[07:34] <Otsuko> Um... I had a question about dual booting...
[07:34] <ajax4> epagoge: It eventually starts up normally...any idea what config files to change?
[07:35] <anorexicpillow> lol so... a problem that isnt possible to fix
[07:35] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: firstly, linux has a lot of trouble with mp3 and proprietary codecs in general.
[07:35] <Kwipper> So... there is absolutly NO way of getting Ubuntu Live to boot off of a USB drive?
[07:35] <epagoge> ajax4: well, kernel paramters are stored in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:35] <epagoge> ajax4: because grub is the program that loads the kernel
[07:35] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: I'm not familiar with kino, but if it can theoretically be used for what you're trying to use it for, try feeding it oggs or even wavs.
[07:35] <Otsuko> It has to deal with with OS default setting
[07:35] <ajax4> epagoge: Okay, any idea what to look for?
[07:35] <Otsuko> setdefault to be exact in grub
[07:35] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: If kino fails, cinelerra is a professional-standard (read: extremely powerful but insanely hard to use) movie editor for Linux which you can try.
[07:35] <anorexicpillow> okay ill try different formats of audio :)
[07:35] <epagoge> ajax4: i did a quick google and i didn't find anything..
[07:36] <anorexicpillow> okay is that available on synaptic?
[07:36] <arrenlex> !cinelerra | anorexicpillow
[07:36] <epagoge> ajax4: basically, i think the problem is that the kernel is going into framebuffer mode when it starts (which manes instead of using text-mode, it initializes a high-res graphics screen and draws onto it with its own fonts)
[07:36] <ubotu> anorexicpillow: cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[07:36] <anorexicpillow> thanks
[07:36] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: "install instructions" means no. xD
[07:36] <anorexicpillow> hah so i figured :P
[07:36] <epagoge> ajax4: and i'm assuming that the reason your screen is blank is that the graphics-mode isn't setup right for your monitor
[07:37] <epagoge> ajax4: (because framebuffer isn't that smart about monitors)
[07:37] <anorexicpillow> thanks for you help ill go try and make this work
[07:37] <pbelau> hey, does anyone know where the "new login" menu went in ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:37] <ajax4> epagoge: Could it be fixed with a changed setting in the BIOS?
[07:37] <pbelau> i'd like to be able to graphically login as two users at once without starting gdm from the commandline
[07:37] <epagoge> ajax4: you could test if the problem is the graphics mode by hooking up a monitor that you know can handle high resolutions and high refresh rates
[07:38] <epagoge> ajax4: (unless you already have that kind of monitor ... )
[07:38] <pbelau> does anyone know ?
[07:38] <ajax4> epagoge: Hehe, sorry only one monitor to use.
[07:38] <epagoge> ajax4: is it that kind of monitor?
[07:38] <epagoge> ajax4: that could narrow down the problem
[07:39] <proqesi> how do I set my keymapping to dvorak before xdm runs?
[07:39] <ajax4> epagoge: It's a standard 21" CRT.
[07:39] <epagoge> hrmm
[07:39] <epagoge> so, explain what you see when it's booting
[07:40] <epagoge> it's like: 1) BIOS POST screen...
[07:40] <epagoge> then.. ?
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: fixed
[07:40] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: Hurrah! What did you do?
[07:40] <ajax4> epagoge: POST screen a few words, then completely back. No Ubuntu logo, progress bar, nothing. Then it waits a minute then GDM logo screen comes up.
[07:40] <ajax4> (completely black)
[07:40] <epagoge> ajax4: ok yeah, that's gotta be the framebuffer resolution
[07:40] <epagoge> oh, that's easy to change actually
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: Well, a) fixed permissions on the digest password file, b) LOADED the digest module (*THWACK*), c) fixed a syntax error - v1.3 docs for v2.2 server is a no-no.
[07:42] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: All those things mean very little or nothing to be, but I offer you my sincere congratulations :)
[07:42] <arrenlex> be -> me
[07:42] <ajax4> pbelau: Do you have an option under system tools called "New Login"?
[07:42] <ajax4> epagoge: Easy to change?
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: Thanks.  Now time for bed, after that minor panic.
[07:43] <epagoge> ajax4: haha.. hold on
[07:43] <epagoge> i'm just finding it
[07:43] <arrenlex> pbelau: I'm confused. Can you explain more thoroughly what exactly you are trying to do?
[07:43] <epagoge> google doesn't know where the kernel paramters are listed :\
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: (It's SSL & authentication stuff)
[07:43] <pbelau> i found it
[07:43] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: Oh. I'd never messed with that.
[07:43] <pbelau> it moved from system tools -> new login to...
[07:43] <ajax4> pbelau: I think that should take care of what you want to do.
[07:43] <pbelau> system -> quit
[07:43] <pbelau> it's in system -> quit now
[07:44] <pbelau> which is a bit confusing
[07:44] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: My own short-lived apache server consisted of "hello, me, here are the files you uploaded to this directory at home earlier. I hope they are useful to you. :) <dirlist>"
[07:44] <wastrel> pbelau:  sortof like start->shutdown
[07:44] <clayg> TGPO, i am not sure, i think i'm running 64 bit i just installed the smp kernel
[07:44] <wastrel> the things we do to make things "user friendly"...
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: hehe
[07:44] <clayg> TGPO, Also this is a core 2 duo, which should i run
[07:44] <pbelau> wastrel, it'd be even friendlier if it booted up immediately
[07:45] <pbelau> there's a bug in the LVM configuration for 6.06
[07:45] <TGPO> clayg: you dont remember which you installed?
[07:45] <proqesi> clayg: core2duo is 32bit (i386)
[07:45] <pbelau> causes the system to fail while mounting the root filesystem
[07:46] <arrenlex> clayg: smp != 64-bit. You can have 32-bit with two cores, 64-bit with one core, and any combination thereof. They are unrelated. smp = multi-core processor.
[07:46] <vanberge> whats the package required for basic compiling, etc... base utils or something right?
[07:46] <Capslock118> i got cedega to work
[07:46] <arrenlex> !build-essential | vanberge
[07:46] <ubotu> vanberge: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:46] <Capslock118> and WoW works flawlessly
[07:46] <arrenlex> vanberge: build-essential
[07:46] <Capslock118> WoW works flawlessy, and better than in windows for some reason'\
[07:46] <arrenlex> (stupid ubotu)
[07:46] <vanberge> arrenlex, ty.  :-)
[07:46] <Oni-Dracula> Capslock118, I noticed that too :)
[07:46] <vanberge> !stupid | ubotu
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stupid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <arrenlex> Capslock118: The rule for Linux is that something either works better than in Windows or does not work at all. :)
[07:47] <Oni-Dracula> Capslock118, it's probably because linux is better at handling memory than windows
[07:47] <arrenlex> vanberge: I was mad at him for his useless factoid which didn't mention the package name. xD
[07:47] <Capslock118> arrenlex: ive noticed that too
[07:47] <Capslock118> Oni-Dracula: thats goot o hear cause i have 1 gb of it
[07:47] <wastrel> WoW eh
[07:47] <wastrel> i used to play that
[07:47] <malt1> Hello, i have a ubuntu server running apache2 and php and mysql, and i installed sendmail and in php.ini i put in my sendmail path, and i have a php nuke site that is email confirm, and my server is not sending the emails, what could be wrong my sendmail is default install to i used sudo apt-get install sendmail
[07:48] <vanberge> lol... arrenlex too funny
[07:48] <clayg> arrenlex, proqesi ,i thought core duo was 32 bit and core 2 duo was 64bit, or AMT64
[07:48] <clayg> ?
[07:48] <epagoge> ajax4: ok, found it!
[07:48] <clayg> yeah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_2_duo
[07:48] <arrenlex> clayg: Oh, you are correct. Instruction Set: EM64T
[07:49] <arrenlex> clayg: Yes, that's where I came from.
[07:49] <epagoge> ajax4: add this as a kernel boot parameter: "video=800x600-16@60"
[07:49] <clayg> ok, so for this is the smp kernel the best
[07:49] <epagoge> ajax4: that's 800x600 mode, 16-bit colour, 60hz refresh rate
[07:49] <clayg> or is there like a special , dual core, 64 bit kernel
[07:49] <arrenlex> clayg: smp and 64-bit.
[07:49] <clayg> point is i dont feel like im running at 2.0ghz X 2
[07:49] <damageDOn1> Can someone help me with a problem with my mic in edgy?
[07:49] <arrenlex> clayg: -generic should take care of it all unless I miss my guess.
[07:49] <radar1976> I'm looking for the package download site...
[07:49] <ajax4> epagoge: Okay, I'll try that right now and be right back.
[07:50] <radar1976> mn
[07:50] <radar1976> err nm
[07:50] <epagoge> radar1976: google "ubuntu mirrors"
[07:50] <clayg> does this mean when im not using apps/kernel that supports dual core/64bit that im only running at 2ghz!?
[07:50] <arrenlex> clayg: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/cpuinfo
[07:50] <clayg> surely not i hope
[07:50] <clayg> ok
[07:50] <clayg> gimme a second
[07:51] <arrenlex> clayg: also, what is the output of "uname -m"?
[07:51] <clayg> http://pastebin.ca/282033
[07:51] <clayg> is the cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:51] <clayg> lemme peep the other
[07:51] <damageDOn1> Does anyone know why mics might not be working with Edgy?
[07:51] <arrenlex> clayg: cpu MHz    : 997.867
[07:51] <clayg> uname -m or -a?
[07:51] <arrenlex> clayg: You're right, that sure doesn't sound like 2GHZ.
[07:51] <clayg> that sucks man
[07:51] <proqesi> clayg: laptop or deskop?
[07:51] <arrenlex> clayg: Either will work. -a will be more useful.
[07:51] <clayg> clay@youngman:~$ uname -a
[07:51] <clayg> Linux youngman 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:51] <clayg> clay@youngman:~$
[07:52] <clayg> laptop, dv6000t , "top of the line"
[07:52] <arrenlex> clayg: There you go. You're running a -386 kernel.
[07:52] <arrenlex> clayg: Install linux-image-generic for the -generic kernel.
[07:52] <clayg> ok, can i just apt-get a new one, or do i need to like down load the 64bit distro?
[07:52] <arrenlex> clayg: And reboot into it.
[07:52] <clayg> is the generic better you think ?
[07:52] <iami89> who there know about method to install NVIDIA driver in UBUNTU( for geforce 4 mx 440 agp4x 128mb)
[07:52] <arrenlex> clayg: Than 386? Of course. 386es are pre-pentium-I machines.
[07:53] <TGPO> clayg: avoid the 64bit distro like the plague
[07:53] <proqesi> clayg: when you're not plugged in the processor will scale down too
[07:53] <clayg> hey one thing . there is a way to see a graph , similar to the windows type when you hit ctrl alt delete?
[07:53] <clayg> but i cant rememebr how to get into it
[07:53] <clayg> wait actually i installed the smp kernel
[07:53] <clayg> havent rebooted
[07:54] <arrenlex> clayg: On modern cpus, you will not notice a difference between 32-bit and 64-bit under normal desktop use. It only comes out when you have special requirements, like >4GB RAM, or in heavy calculations.
[07:54] <clayg> lemme reboot and see how that does
[07:54] <arrenlex> clayg: I advise you to stick with 32-bit. A lot less headaches.
[07:54] <clayg> ill be right back
[07:54] <proqesi> or in games
[07:54] <clayg> if i stick to 32 bit does that mean im going to run at 2 ghz?
[07:54] <arrenlex> !nvidia | iami89
[07:54] <ubotu> iami89: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:54] <HyperHacker> games = heavy calculations ;-)
[07:54] <proqesi> or 3d or video editing
[07:54] <clayg> it almost seems like 99 percent of the time someone would be better of with a p4 3.0ghz
[07:54] <arrenlex> clayg: 32-bit\64-bit will not affect your processor speed.
[07:54] <clayg> then this expensive cpu that doesn't even run at speeds computers would do 5 years ago
[07:55] <clayg> 5-6 years ago i built a 2.4ghz desktop.  I am going to be mad if i find out my new "kick as$" notebook can't keep up with it
[07:55] <arrenlex> clayg: hertz are not a good computing speed benchmark. They do not transfer across different architectures.
[07:55] <iami89> i tried but after install my system crash
[07:55] <clayg> brb
[07:55] <clayg> lesse how i fair
[07:55] <damageDOn1> I have a headset/mic that works in Windows but doesn't work in Edgy or Dapper. I can get sound out through it but I can't record.
[07:55] <arrenlex> fare
[07:55] <clayg> is thre a benchmark app?
[07:55] <clayg> i want to try it now
[07:56] <clayg> then after the reboot/new kernel
[07:56] <clayg> then ill goto the generic and get a good comparison
[07:56] <arrenlex> clayg: Uh... linpack is the only one I know of because it's used to measure supercomputers.
[07:56] <arrenlex> clayg: I don't know if it even works on regular machines.
[07:56] <clayg> ouch ok
[07:56] <clayg> brb
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> I think I have a new piece of hardware
[07:57] <ajax4> epagoge: I'm supposed to add that line to /boot/grub/menu.lst on the "kernel" line right?
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> it's a gigaware usb webcam (radioshack)
[07:57] <arrenlex> clayg: In any case, benchmarks will typically only measure one aspect of your computer. When you use your machine, you use a variety of things. A fast processor with a tiny amount of ram will be horribly slow, for example. Your computer's perceived "speed" depends on clock speed, bus width, ram, hard disk RPM, network latency... all sorts of things.
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 093a:260e Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[07:58] <cameraguy> Is there any photo recovery software for Linux?
[07:58] <malt1> I installed sendmail and for my path i put /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i and i restarted apache, and i sitll can't get it to send me a email on phpbb forums for email confirm, what could i be doing wrong?
[07:59] <arrenlex> cameraguy: Define recovery.
[07:59] <cameraguy> Cameras internal memory had photos, got deleted. Know they're still there.. but need to recover them Ala undeleted hard drive files.
[08:00] <damageDOn1> Can anyone tell me of a channel that I might be more likely to get help with getting a mic working?
[08:01] <Shadowpillar> can anyone here help me?
[08:01] <arrenlex> Shadowpillar: With what?
[08:01] <HyperHacker> so...
[08:01] <Shadowpillar> I'm trying to get dapper to detect a webcam
[08:01] <TGPO> Shadowpillar: you havent asked a question
[08:01] <HyperHacker> Ubuntu liveCD was hanging at "Loading hardware drivers"
[08:02] <arrenlex> Shadowpillar: Is the chipset supported?
[08:02] <HyperHacker> fixed it by removing a network card
[08:02] <Shadowpillar> arrenlex: should be
[08:02] <damageDOn1> I have a asked a question. Nobody is helping me either...
[08:02] <HyperHacker> tried it with another card, same thing, so removed that one too
[08:02] <Shadowpillar> unless it's a new chipset
[08:02] <arrenlex> Shadowpillar: Why should it be?
[08:02] <Shadowpillar> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 093a:260e Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[08:02] <arrenlex> Shadowpillar: I think your best bet is to google it.
[08:02] <HyperHacker> it booted up but couldn't see my serial mouse so I turned it off
[08:02] <HyperHacker> made NO changes to hardware
[08:02] <HyperHacker> turned it back on
[08:02] <arrenlex> !webcam | Shadowpillar
[08:02] <ubotu> Shadowpillar: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:02] <HyperHacker> guess where it's hanging? -_-
[08:02] <Shadowpillar> spca5xxx
[08:02] <arrenlex> ^ might help too
[08:03] <Shadowpillar> arrenlex: the only thing detected is the microphone
[08:03] <damageDOn1> !mic | damageDOn1
[08:03] <Shadowpillar> and it doesn't even work
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <damageDOn1> Brilliant!
[08:04] <damageDOn1> !microphone | damageDOn1
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <niall> my internet is very slow and I have no idea why. The other machines in the house are going much faster
[08:05] <damageDOn1> I have a brand new laptop running Edgy and the microphone doesn't work even though it works on Windows.
[08:05] <Shadowpillar> I think mine is a new chipset
[08:05] <Shadowpillar> :|
[08:06] <niall> is there somewhere in Ubuntu I can check my internet connection speed?
[08:06] <noiesmo> damageDOn1, open terminal and run alsamixer check microphone is turned on not mute as my by by default
[08:06] <revolutionstudio> anyone here could tell me why everytime i connect to gaim i have to re identify myself
[08:06] <proqesi> niall: there are lots of websites for that
[08:06] <niall> sure
[08:06] <TGPO> damageDOn1: your running Gnome desktop?
[08:07] <damageDOn1> noiesmo: I have done that through the GUI that does the same thing right?
[08:07] <niall> but does ubuntu need to be configured for the type of connection you have
[08:07] <niall> or is it automatic?
[08:07] <damageDOn1> TGPO: I'm running Gnome and Beryl
[08:08] <arrenlex> revolutionstudio: Because you've not saved your password in your account options.
[08:08] <proqesi> niall: automatic, but some programs might need to know
[08:08] <revolutionstudio> how do i do that?
[08:08] <malt1> I have linux server running apache2, php5, mysql, phpmyadmin, ftp, ssh, what else should i need to get my server sending out emails with phpBB and php nuke for email confirm when a user registers
[08:08] <niall> ahh i see well thank you
[08:09] <revolutionstudio> it is saved under my accounts in gaim...the password for all my accounts are saved there
[08:09] <niall> proqesi: thanks
[08:09] <revolutionstudio> and freenode is the only one that gives me any trouble
[08:10] <damageDOn1> TGPO: Hello?
[08:10] <jughead> revolutionstudio, are you using gaim for irc?
[08:11] <revolutionstudio> yeah...im running windows but no one in that channel would talk so i came here cause my other pc is kubuntu
[08:11] <revolutionstudio> i thought you all could help me
[08:11] <soresore> getting an internal prism2/3 usb wifi card working in ubuntu.. possible?
[08:11] <scribus> anyone managed installing 6.10 in parallels?
[08:12] <proqesi> revolutionstudio: try #gaim
[08:12] <jughead> revolutionstudio, it seems easy enough on the website; did you modify your account to include auto login and password?
[08:13] <wall86> anyone happen to know if Ubuntu 6.06, supports intels speedstep technology? or will it just run the cpu at max speed?
[08:13] <revolutionstudio> yeah...its all done right here in gaim...but idk why it makes me re identify everytime though you know
[08:14] <epagoge> ajax4: yes, you can put it on the kernel line.. you can even actually do that at boot-time in the grub menu -- grub lets you edit all those menu.lst parameters at boot
[08:14] <clayg> ok back
[08:14] <clayg> you guys still here
[08:14] <clayg> going into xchat was fast as fk
[08:14] <jughead> yeah I don't know... is gaim really all that good for irc?
[08:15] <jughead> I'm a xchat user myself
[08:15] <revolutionstudio> well i dont know...is there any other programs that will run yahoo aim and irc all in one?
[08:15] <arrenlex> wall86: apt-get install powersaved
[08:15] <epagoge> ajax4: you gotta watch out though -- ubuntu rewrites menu.lst whenever you install a new kernel -- so once you know what video= setting to use, put it in the "kopt=" setting higher up in the file
[08:15] <arrenlex> clayg: Still here.
[08:15] <proqesi> revolutionstudio: lots
[08:15] <epagoge> ajax4: then, when ubuntu rewrites menu.lst, the kernel paramters will include video= automatically! :)
[08:16] <arrenlex> clayg: And I meant to tell you before you left: In any case, benchmarks will typically only measure one aspect of your computer. When you use your machine, you use a variety of things. A fast processor with a tiny amount of ram will be horribly slow, for example. Your computer's perceived "speed" depends on clock speed, bus width, ram, hard disk RPM, network latency... all sorts of things.
[08:16] <clayg> http://pastebin.ca/282043
[08:16] <clayg> damn still only 2hgz
[08:16] <revolutionstudio> any suggestions?
[08:16] <clayg> how can i actually see it going 4 ghz
[08:16] <clayg> or at least 3, jeez
[08:16] <arrenlex> clayg: What do you mean, 4GHz? It's only a 2GHz processor.
[08:16] <clayg> in ech core right?
[08:16] <clayg> wait, i think i see
[08:16] <arrenlex> clayg: it doesn't work like that XD
[08:16] <damageDOn1> Thanks for nothing
[08:17] <jughead> revolutionstudio, for windows or kubuntu?  kopete does them all I think
[08:17] <arrenlex> clayg: You don't just multiply by the number of cores. It's not linear.
[08:17] <clayg> ouch
[08:17] <clayg> seems useless
[08:17] <proqesi> clayg: all OSes will show it as 2.. I have a core2duo myself and run OS X and XP
[08:17] <Ciobin> I've a PC with 2 hd: on 1 hd with Windows and another with Ubuntu. After installed Ubuntu, it ask me of reboot my pc. I've reboot it and I've change the sequence of boot on bios menu with hd Ubuntu in the first position. After I've boot the pc and this is what I see: 1- Logo mb, 2- Cursor Pulse on my monitor and dosn't load more nothing. Sorry for my english
[08:17] <arrenlex> clayg: You now have both cores recognised. Your computer will be as fast as it was intended to be. Core 2 duo, I am told, is pretty darn fast.
[08:17] <revolutionstudio> for windows really for this computer...the other one runs kubuntu and has everything in it already
[08:17] <clayg> 2ghz?
[08:17] <clayg> i mean it seems fast
[08:17] <arrenlex> clayg: As I said, ghz do not translate into speed.
[08:17] <proqesi> clayg: yes
[08:17] <clayg> i need a power hungry app
[08:17] <clayg> any suggestions?
[08:17] <scribus> proqesi: u running parallels?
[08:18] <clayg> i have 1 gig of ram and it's the 2ghz core 2 duo model
[08:18] <arrenlex> clayg: blender
[08:18] <Ciobin> How can I do to start my Ubuntu?
[08:18] <proqesi> scribus: no, I run ubuntu natively
[08:18] <jughead> Ciobin, did you install grub to the MBR?
[08:18] <revolutionstudio> ciobin did you not get a grub/
[08:18] <revolutionstudio> ?
[08:18] <clayg> also i installed a hp all in one, whatrs a good app to utilize the scanning, copying and other features?
[08:18] <scribus> proqesi: never tried it for ubuntu install under osx?
[08:18] <jughead> revolutionstudio, for windows I use Trillian Basic (it's free)
[08:18] <clayg> lemme install blender and check it out
[08:19] <proqesi> scribus: not with parallels
[08:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> how do i know whether hardware 3d acceleration is supported under Ubunut?
[08:19] <scribus> proqesi: ic
[08:19] <ajax4> epagoge: I wanted to verify that I was putting it in the right place...because it didn't work. The line you gave me was "video=800x600-16@60" right?
[08:19] <Ciobin> jughead: Yes I think
[08:19] <scribus> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: run glxgears
[08:19] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: What's the output of "glxinfo | grep ender"?
[08:19] <arrenlex> scribus: That is not helpful.
[08:19] <scribus> ;)
[08:19] <scribus> woops
[08:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex .ok
[08:19] <jughead> Ciobin, if you installed grub to the MBR then set BIOS to boot from the windows hard drive
[08:19] <clayg> hehe actualyl openoffice is kinda hungry also
[08:20] <clayg> lemme try that, so far everything is opening fast
[08:20] <clayg> but that is only xchat and terminal
[08:20] <clayg> those aren't that big
[08:20] <arrenlex> clayg: Somehow I think word processor < 3D animator =P
[08:20] <Ciobin> jughead: but in the hd where I've installed Ubuntu I suppose
[08:20] <clayg> open office usually had a second or so
[08:20] <clayg> arrenlex, agreed
[08:20] <clayg> but still
[08:20] <clayg> is blender animation?
[08:20] <arrenlex> clayg: Yes.
[08:20] <arrenlex> !blender
[08:20] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[08:20] <clayg> im downloading it now
[08:20] <clayg> just d/ling slow
[08:20] <Ciobin> jughead: Already done. The only thing that I see is the cursor pulse
[08:21] <clayg> Linux youngman 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 18:00:07 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:21] <arrenlex> clayg: And? I told you, your computer is as fast as it was intended to be.
[08:21] <revolutionstudio> with trillian will i be able to connect to freenode with this name/
[08:21] <Ciobin> jughead: I've try to set before one and after other in the boot sequence
[08:21] <jughead> Ciobin, does the grub menu appear before the cursor pulse?
[08:22] <clayg> arrenlex, ok man got blender this looks like a program you use to create animations, i was looking for something that had something already made and would display or run to show me the speed
[08:22] <clayg> is there something in this im missing?
[08:22] <Ciobin> jughead: no nothing appear. Only the cursor pulse
[08:22] <arrenlex> clayg: Oh. xD
[08:22] <arrenlex> clayg: No. You asked for a heavy app.
[08:22] <scribus> anyone experience with boot errors like this:
[08:22] <scribus> "Unknown Interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060"
[08:22] <scribus> (..)
[08:22] <clayg> oh is there a lag when you run it?
[08:22] <arrenlex> clayg: No.
[08:22] <clayg> if so then im very happy
[08:22] <proqesi> clayg: create a mesh and click on the render option
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex , it reads
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> direct rendering: Yes
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G 20050225
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> is that good
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ?
[08:23] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: Yes. You have 3D acceleration.
[08:23] <clayg> i dont use graphic/video design programs
[08:23] <clayg> is that hard to do
[08:23] <Zac1> !parted
[08:23] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-2.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 156 kB
[08:23] <jughead> Ciobin, you might need to fix grub, which I do not know about
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex ,yay !! thanks ... :) i just wanted to check whether that driver i installed worked or not ....
[08:23] <jughead> I think you can do it through the liveCD but I'm not sure
[08:24] <seanj> hi people
[08:24] <arrenlex> !hi
[08:24] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:24] <clayg> i hit render and it had a box with a grey 3 dimensional box in it
[08:24] <arrenlex> clayg: Congratulations, your first 3D rendering :)
[08:24] <scribus> clayg: press space -> add->mesh->monkey
[08:24] <Ciobin> jughead: Ok. I'll try to fix it. Tnks in advance
[08:24] <Zac1> @hamster
[08:24] <jughead> good luck Ciobin
[08:24] <Ciobin> :)
[08:24] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> that sounds like Blender :) thats a nice package :)
[08:25] <Ciobin> god save the queen
[08:26] <MistaED> hehe *is learning blender at this very moment as well*
[08:26] <clayg> ok well it works
[08:26] <clayg> i dont know what to compair it to, but it works
[08:26] <arrenlex> Blender's interface was designed by blind, retarded monkeys. But the package is amazing.
[08:26] <_james> How to auto mount on my windows whenever i reboot?
[08:26] <arrenlex> (as, by the way, was Gimp's. Name, too.)
[08:26] <clayg> wish i knew if it was working fast or not
[08:26] <spikeb> heh
[08:27] <spikeb> there is no good 3d modelling application interface
[08:27] <clayg> i need someting with numbers or some sort of base comparison, how long does it take to render the picture normally?
[08:27] <clayg> on avg i guess
[08:27] <un_operateur1> what could this mean when trying to apt-get install opera from opera's repo --- opera: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.1) which is a virtual package.
[08:27] <un_operateur1> ?
[08:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> clayg ,depedns on what rendering options u've set and ur graphics card ;)
[08:27] <arrenlex> spikeb: Maybe not, but there is "pretty good",  "useable", and "DAMN RETARDED MONKEYS!"
[08:27] <MistaED> coming from a maya perspective to blender, there are some really cool UI design choices in blender, it really reminds me of after effects 7
[08:28] <spikeb> arrenlex: no, only the last when it comes to every 3d model app i've used heh
[08:28] <un_operateur1> !libqt3c102-mt
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt3c102-mt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <MistaED> one issue is that i have no idea how to spawn off windows to the second monitor, any ideas?
[08:28] <arrenlex> spikeb: I've been told that Maya has a pretty good interface. Ever used that?
[08:28] <soresore> is there a front end for wlan tools?
[08:28] <soresore> coz i hates it :<
[08:28] <spikeb> arrenlex: yes. monkeys.
[08:28] <_james> How to auto mount on my windows drive whenever i reboot my ubuntu?
[08:28] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> clayg ,u got Bllendder from the repository? then what version of blender is it? i want to get it too...i have it on win none on lin ...
[08:28] <arrenlex> !package libqt3c102-mt
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package libqt3c102-mt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Shadowpillar> well linux has no idea what webcam I have
[08:29] <arrenlex> Oh. I guess not. Sorry.
[08:29] <Shadowpillar> or what chipset it is
[08:29] <Shadowpillar> anyone?
[08:29] <spikeb> blender is in the repos, yes
[08:29] <MistaED> arrenlex: maya sadly uses motif so it's clunky, but the interface is quite good as i'm used to it :P but sometimes there's just too many overlapping windows and you need two monitors at times
[08:29] <spikeb> i should install it
[08:29] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: In edgy repos? 2.42a-1ubuntu1
[08:30] <Shadowpillar> only comes up as a usb audio device
[08:30] <gephal1> Hi,all. Does anyone know of an application that could extract text from the abominable microsoft .lit format?
[08:30] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex ,oh k ... then i'll use the repo :) ... i needed the latest one... and i hardly ever use synaptic ...
[08:30] <scribus> clayg: u could benchmakr your system also with "john-the-ripper" ;) e.g.: john --test
[08:30] <gephal1> I've got some books I downloaded that I'd really like to read- but can't do that on my linux box at home.
[08:30] <wildchild> hello guys.. Is there any recovery mode, in case that my edgy can't get into x ?
[08:30] <arrenlex> gephal1: "strings" can extract text from anything... no formatting, of course.
[08:30] <arrenlex> (command line, gepha1)
[08:30] <gephal1> wildchild: Yeah- the terminal-
[08:31] <seanj> for my webcam i had to wait a few releases, then it was magically recognized
[08:31] <spikeb> heh
[08:31] <spikeb> seanj: been there
[08:31] <scribus> wildchild: use lynx!
[08:31] <scribus> :p
[08:31] <wildchild> gephal1: I have experiance, that I cpuldn't get in to x like now...
[08:31] <un_operateur1> !opera
[08:31] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:32] <tripppy> ive been told to modprobe a twinhan DVB-t card. but i dont know how.
[08:32] <[Relic] > what are my options for java?
[08:32] <gephal1> wildchild: umm...i couldnt make much sense of that- but i suppose what you're trying to say is that your X went bonkers, right? just  : $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:32] <HyperHacker> so I've noticed something interesting
[08:32] <arrenlex> !java | [Relic] 
[08:32] <ubotu> [Relic] : To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:33] <MistaED> trippy: i have the exact card, try in a terminal: sudo modprobe dvb-bt8xx
[08:33] <HyperHacker> to get a serial mouse working in Ubuntu requires editing config files and rebooting, which is impossible on a liveCD
[08:33] <gephal1> it'll restore your configuration automatically- assuming that you've not made drastic changes in your hardware
[08:33] <HyperHacker> so you can't use a serial mouse with the liveCD
[08:33] <un_operateur1> !libqt3
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <wildchild> gephal1: no after reboot. There wasn't any window to fill in my password... It just stoped..
[08:33] <seanj> no serial mouse? that's a bummer
[08:33] <MistaED> and programs like kaffeine will detect it and scan for channels, that's the best program for tv/dvb cards if you don't want a headache
[08:33] <arrenlex> !libqt3-mt | un_operateur1
[08:33] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3064 kB, installed size 8712 kB
[08:33] <HyperHacker> installing, for some silly reason, requires a mouse because the keyboard can't be used to navigate the interface
[08:33] <arrenlex> :)
[08:34] <Madpilot> HyperHacker, how old a computer do you have to have to actually still run a serial mouse?
[08:34] <HyperHacker> so Ubuntu is comlpetely unuseable to those with serial mice, or no mice at all.
[08:34] <gephal1> anything interesting in the screen dump during boot? like kernel panic?
[08:34] <HyperHacker> it's not that old really
[08:34] <dabaR> HyperHacker: use the alternate install cd
[08:34] <Madpilot> HyperHacker, the alternative install has a text-only mode
[08:34] <HyperHacker> I thought Linux was supposed to be good with older hardware anyway?
[08:35] <gephal1> I'd not know how to resolve that kinda thing either-  just try to see what the error is- during boot, if you're seeing the `ubuntu loading` window, try to switch to a tty1 (Ctrl+alt+1) and see if there are any messages you think is causing the problem
[08:35] <seanj> by default it's good with lots of old hardware...i guess just not with a distro aimed at newer machines
[08:35] <HyperHacker> I might try that text-only mode tomorrow when I'm not supposed to be asleep
[08:35] <gephal1> google for it- or come back here if you aren't able to find any help on places like ubuntuforums.org
[08:35] <dabaR> HyperHacker: that is the preferred CD by me.
[08:36] <wildchild> gephal1: all nice and right, if I could come again to x :) last time I had to reinstall :S
[08:36] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> btw...totem doesnt support mp3 s by default?
[08:36] <un_operateur1> nothing supports mp3s by default
[08:36] <seanj> if i ever have X problems i edit xorg.conf and change video driver to vesa
[08:36] <HyperHacker> the real problem here is people who can't use a mouse for whatever reason can't use the graphical install, and I'd imagine the rest of the interface has the same problem once it's installed
[08:36] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hmm.... time to find the plugin ...
[08:36] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !mp3
[08:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <wildchild> gephal1:that's why I am asking for some kind of safe mode or nongraphic mode If there is a way to choose (like in windows f4)
[08:37] <gephal1> wildchild: we've all been there- and I can tell you- having used Fedora Core (my first linux distro) i am not that eager for nostalgia- had to reinstall the damnd thing every 2 weeks.
[08:37] <wildchild> :S
[08:37] <wildchild> that sux
[08:37] <gephal1> wildchild: during OS boot, press scape.
[08:37] <wildchild> yes
[08:37] <gephal1> it'll take you to the GRUB menu- from there, choose safe mode
[08:38] <wildchild> k
[08:38] <wildchild> thx
[08:39] <herfer> ugh.
[08:39] <gaurav19> Hi un_operateur1, still no success
[08:39] <herfer> 6 hours and still cannot get ubuntu to work.
[08:39] <spikeb> sweet. my ubuntu worked out of the box.
[08:39] <herfer> (EE) No devices detected
[08:39] <herfer> Fatal server error:
[08:40] <herfer> no screens found
[08:40] <herfer> so that's that.
[08:40] <arrenlex> herfer: Wrong driver.
[08:40] <seanj> ugh
[08:40] <herfer> nope.
[08:40] <arrenlex> herfer: Or else unavailable options.
[08:40] <herfer> I even switched to the vga driver
[08:40] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, did you manage to get grub working?
[08:40] <herfer> just to go overkill and just get into X
[08:40] <herfer> but not even vga driver does it.
[08:40] <un_operateur1> !grub | gaurav19
[08:40] <ubotu> gaurav19: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:40] <un_operateur1> first link
[08:40] <arrenlex> herfer: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? Can you?
[08:40] <gaurav19> I am trying to do a dual boot on a machine running Windows XP . i donot want to touch the Xp installatin
[08:41] <seanj> trying the "vesa" driver might work
[08:41] <soresore> where exactly should i be able to see if my prism2 card is loading up? i've loaded the module
[08:41] <podr0znik> Good morning :)
[08:41] <herfer> it should use my _working_ xorg.conf from FreeBSD flawlessly.
[08:41] <arrenlex> !dual boot | gaurav19
[08:41] <herfer> I shouldn't even have to touch it.
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <herfer> xorg is xorg, regardless of platform.
[08:41] <arrenlex> !dualboot | gaurav19
[08:41] <ubotu> gaurav19: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:41] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 ,i dual boot already ... with XP and Ubuntu 6.10 and previously 6.06
[08:41] <spikeb> herfer: different major version though. the config format might be different.
[08:41] <un_operateur1> gaurav, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:41] <gephalt> herfer: lol- you must really hurt to hear spikeb say that
[08:41] <podr0znik> I'd like to ask a question on "beginners" level
[08:41] <seanj> piped to gaurav19 that's neat..
[08:42] <gaurav19> Thanks ubotu
[08:42] <podr0znik> Can I simply install (a Linux version of) Skype on Ubuntu?
[08:42] <spikeb> podr0znik: yes
[08:42] <arrenlex> herfer: Why don't you use the working xorg.conf you get by booting from a liveCD?
[08:42] <un_operateur1> stop talking to bots gaurav19 :p
[08:42] <un_operateur1> :)
[08:42] <podr0znik> thank you skikeb
[08:42] <arrenlex> !thanks | ubotu
[08:42] <ubotu> ubotu: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:42] <podr0znik> spikeb that is :)
[08:42] <arrenlex> xD
[08:42] <spikeb> podr0znik: you bet :)
[08:42] <seanj> lol..
[08:42] <arrenlex> Oops. I made it talk to itself.
[08:42] <seanj> haha
[08:42] <arrenlex> !thanks | gaurav19
[08:42] <ubotu> gaurav19: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:42] <arrenlex> That's better.
[08:43] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 ,u dont want to touch Win installation as in not even allow GRUB to sit on mbr?
[08:43] <herfer> arrenlex : uhmmm...uhmmm...because the liveCD won't work either ?
[08:43] <herfer> that's why.
[08:43] <gephalt> Yeah- flirting with the bot- thats smooth :P
[08:43] <herfer> I had to do a command line install
[08:43] <un_operateur1> !flirt | ubotu
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flirt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <arrenlex> !botabuse
[08:43] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[08:43] <un_operateur1> lol
[08:43] <herfer> firing up ubuntu just to play was going to be my "afternoon project"
[08:43] <vanberge> is there a 'supported' way to make a bit level copy of a hard disk?  for example i want to buy a new hard drive but don't want to re-install everything!
[08:43] <arrenlex> herfer: What card?
[08:43] <herfer> now 8 hours later I still have only CLI on it.
[08:43] <herfer> matrox p750
[08:43] <arrenlex> vanberge: man dd
[08:43] <herfer> for triple-head.
[08:43] <seanj> coudln't a person use dd for that
[08:43] <seanj> yeah. lol
[08:44] <herfer> id' be happy to just get one monitor working at this point.
[08:44] <spikeb> heh
[08:44] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !date u
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <vanberge> arrenlex, i thought of that... but didn't know how recommended that woudl be
[08:44] <gaurav19> thanks GreyGhost. My situation is that I have windows XP installed already and two partitions 19Gb and 1 GB for ubuntu 6.06 - did you also install ubuntu over Windows Xp to get a dual boot. most tutorials i have seen require installation of ubuntu followed by windows
[08:44] <arrenlex> vanberge: Probably not recommended.
[08:44] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hmm.... dumb thing ... gonna remian unmarried for the rest of its life...
[08:44] <gephalt> herfer: i've seen good documentation on that  kinda card
[08:44] <herfer> great.
[08:45] <gephalt> herfer: I am not sure- but can you check gentoo forums/docs-howtos?
[08:45] <seanj> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, that's okay... if they get married, they'll make more :P
[08:45] <herfer> i'm using driver=vga.  that's it.  dead end.
[08:45] <vanberge> arrenlex, yeah, i was afraid of that...  :-(
[08:45] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 , no ..i installed Ubuntu after XP....
[08:45] <herfer> there's no deeper troubleshooting basement to go to than driver=vga.
[08:45] <seanj> the video problem is unfortunately where windoze shines.. it can almost always tell you what chipset you have
[08:45] <nicholaspaul> Here's another Q: Can i install from the PPC live Edgy disc?
[08:45] <gephalt> herfer: i am saying this cause you may need to compile your own kernel.
[08:45] <herfer> so no ubuntu. The end.
[08:45] <Madpilot> nicholaspaul, yes
[08:45] <spikeb> why would you switch from freebsd anyway
[08:45] <arrenlex> herfer: I've had that happen when I tried using vga with a high bit depth...
[08:46] <herfer> spikeb: _exactly_
[08:46] <seanj> bab there's never a the-end with Gnu/Linux
[08:46] <tkroo> i'm getting "Unable to mount the selected volume" Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume on my floppy drive. how can i fix this?
[08:46] <revolutionstudio> ok who referred me to trillian
[08:46] <herfer> spikeb: unfortunately, there is no vmware support on freebsd.
[08:46] <emun> hi just wondering, is there an antivirus software for ubuntu
[08:46] <herfer> no modern vmware support, that is.
[08:46] <spikeb> herfer: ahhhhh
[08:46] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 ,but that meant that i had to overwrite mbr with GRUB so that XP was booted using grub and not ntldr
[08:46] <arrenlex> !clamav | emun
[08:46] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> Madpilot: sweet. should i run the thing as 'live' first, or should i install from the beginning?
[08:46] <arrenlex> !virus | emun
[08:46] <ubotu> emun: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:46] <tkroo> i am able to write to the floppy via /dev/fd0 however.
[08:46] <seanj> qemu might do the same thing vmware does, for free
[08:46] <Madpilot> nicholaspaul, with the Ubuntu LiveCDs, you run them, then install from inside the live session - there's an Install icon on the desktop
[08:46] <arrenlex> seanj: Some parts of vmware has recently been made free.
[08:46] <arrenlex> (Free as in beer)
[08:47] <gaurav19> GreyGhost, thats what I didn't try - I guess this kind of paranoia is justified for windows users :)
[08:47] <spikeb> herfer: one of my friends is a FreeBSD zealot :)
[08:47] <nicholaspaul> Madpilot: oh. That didnt work.. wonder why? It just 'spun' and then stopped...
[08:47] <emun> thanks guys
[08:47] <seanj> arrenlex, that's kind of helpful... i'd still recommend qemu over it though since it's 100% free as in freedom
[08:47] <herfer> believe me - I'd love to keep running fbsd as my desktop
[08:47] <seanj> i got qemu to work running windows 98
[08:47] <revolutionstudio> some one please tell me how to set up the connection to freenode in trillian
[08:47] <spikeb> herfer: but you absolutely require vmware eh
[08:47] <seanj> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513 <- qemu how-to for breezy, etc
[08:48] <arrenlex> seanj: And also slower as in molasses.
[08:48] <gephalt> whats so good about freebsd anyway?
[08:48] <seanj> lol yes it is
[08:48] <faust_> Does anyone know what's up with the backspace key in 6.10?
[08:48] <dabaR> nicholaspaul: did you hold down the boot from cd key?
[08:48] <seanj> but reasonable for simple experimentation
[08:48] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 , i to am an XP user ... btw how do u plan to partition that 1GB for Ubuntu ....?? cos u'll need atleast 2 partitions...
[08:48] <faust_> Got it fixed to "back" again in firefox, but other apps still just want to do pageup.
[08:48] <nicholaspaul> dabaR: yea, i can boot into 'Live' but the install icon doesnt work. It just ... thinks about it... then does nothing.
[08:48] <dabaR> oh
[08:48] <nicholaspaul> dabaR: is there a command line option so i can see what happened?
[08:49] <seanj> doesn't Ubuntu require more than 1Gb for installation ?
[08:49] <un_operateur1> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, he already has ubuntu installed (i think)
[08:49] <wildchild> I can't finde pkg_config_path http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37510/ can someone tell me how to edit this "path"
[08:49] <dabaR> dependability...?
[08:49] <seanj> dabaR, yes. lol
[08:49] <arrenlex> wildchild: apt-get install jack
[08:49] <tkroo> ok, solved, found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76517.html
[08:50] <nicholaspaul> ubiquity- is that 'Ubuntu Equity'?
[08:50] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 , previouly .... i had FC 5 .... for which a installed GRUB on a separtte partition (cos i was not very determined to allow another ap to overwrite my mbr...) but the 6.06 livecd of Ubuntu left me with no choice...
[08:50] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> un_operateur1 ,oh k .. that i didn know....
[08:50] <seanj> nicholaspaul, i love that!
[08:50] <dabaR> wildchild: why not post the whole output?
[08:50] <nicholaspaul> :D
[08:50] <dabaR> wildchild: and also the sources.list file, please.
[08:50] <wildchild> k
[08:50] <nicholaspaul> nite all.
[08:50] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> omg !!! why does blendeer run in out of the screen mode???
[08:50] <seanj> good night :)
[08:50] <dabaR> nicholaspaul: no, it means everywhereness
[08:51] <spikeb> lol
[08:51] <seanj> keep 'em comin' :)
[08:51] <spikeb> dabaR: you're off to a fine start
[08:51] <Em0ry42> Would anyone be able to help me get Wireless setup on my Dell Inspiron 9100?
[08:51] <tkroo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, launch it with a -w (i think)
[08:51] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> it wont even allow me to resize it....
[08:51] <arrenlex> dabaR: Pretty soon you'll be making up new meanings for words that already exist...
[08:51] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> oh k
[08:52] <arrenlex> dabaR: And then who knows? You could be president!
[08:52] <emun> is there software similar to partition magic for ubuntu ie partition without losing your data like with fdisk
[08:52] <wildchild> dabaR: config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37511/ sources: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37512/
[08:52] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> tkroo ,thanks thats better ... how do i default this now?
[08:52] <arrenlex> !gparted | emun
[08:52] <ubotu> emun: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:52] <deconvolution> hi, My madwifi card cannot connect to the router, iwconfig show it has lots Rx invalid nwid, what does this mean?
[08:52] <dabaR> emun: it is called parted, and has a gparted or qtparted frontend
[08:53] <tkroo> gparted livecd is very nice
[08:53] <emun> great help thanks
[08:53] <arrenlex> wildchild: apt-get install jack
[08:53] <dabaR> wildchild: new version good?
[08:53] <wildchild> mm, nothig about unstable..
[08:53] <wildchild> just new version..
[08:53] <Okt> Hey guys, back with some more questions. I had Ubuntu working fine, I went to edit my xorg.conf to add support for my mouse, and it crashed. So I replaced it with the backup and now when I log in Gnome shows for a second and then dissapears.
[08:53] <Em0ry42> Broadcom 4306, just ignores me when I try to connect to WiFi, iwconfig says "Access Point: Invalid" what does this mean?
[08:53] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> clayg ,what time did the render take?
[08:54] <wildchild> arrenlex: read my paste about config..
[08:54] <dabaR> wildchild: what about that jack package arrenlex suggested?
[08:54] <wildchild> I allready have installed jack..
[08:54] <lemao> how to I find all files that do not start with . (dot). Basically all files that are not hidden?
[08:55] <dabaR> wildchild: libjack0.100.0-dev?
[08:55] <vanberge> Okt, you could re-run X config?  i dont knwo the exact command off the top of my head
[08:55] <arrenlex> lemao: find by default does not search hidden files. Thus find / "*" should do it.
[08:55] <gaurav19> GreyGhost, un_operateur: Here's the structure: disk 1: C(primary 20 GB) D (19 GB - logical ) E(1Gb - Logical) F(120 Gb -extended) I booted the system with the cd and then in ubuntu env, selected D (19 GB) for "/" and E(1 GB) for swap -- all went fine, no message and then the installation dialog vanished without a message - successful or error !!
[08:55] <arrenlex> find / -name "*"
[08:55] <arrenlex> ...oh. No, it does.
[08:55] <arrenlex> Ignore me
[08:55] <seanj> once upon a time it didn't. hehe
[08:56] <lemao> arrenlex: that would have been great...
[08:56] <seanj> brb
[08:56] <faust_> Does anyone know how to change backspace behaviour in gThumb? In browse mode it used to go one folder up, but now it just tries a pageup.
[08:56] <lemao> arrenlex: I tried something like 'find . -regex "[^.] .*" but it doesnt work
[08:56] <gaurav19> GreyGhost, un_operateur: as un_operateur told me before that Ubuntu is installed, I tried to modify the boot.ini as I didnt want to install grub at all, but now it seems that Grub is a mustfor 6.06 at least
[08:57] <dabaR> faust_: alt up should do one dir up
[08:57] <wildchild> dabaR: now jack isn't the problem but: glib >= 1.2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH :
[08:57] <wildchild> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37513/
[08:57] <malt1> what is a simple mail server or something that wil just send out emails for like php nuke and phpbb for email confirm?
[08:57] <dabaR> wildchild: and you have build-essential?
[08:58] <faust_> dabaR: Yeah, but that still gives me an usability issue, since it's pretty far from alt to up on non-us keyboards.
[08:58] <wildchild> dabaR: yes, but  libqt3-dev isn't on my package list
[08:58] <gaurav19> GreyGhost, un_operateur1: How about 6.10 - does that require GRUB too?
[08:58] <wildchild> I did it by http://sp0rky-n00b.co.uk/djplay/1.html
[08:58] <arrenlex> lemao: Does this work? find -name "**[^.] "
[08:59] <dabaR> wildchild: I think that libc6 is what you want in order to fix the last error you gave
[08:59] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, they all need some bootloader -- grub is ubuntu's bootloader of choice
[08:59] <arrenlex> lemao: That also searches hidden folders, though. This is bad?
[08:59] <tkroo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, maybe just make an alias to launch blender with -w ? if you want that default
[08:59] <lemao> yes
[08:59] <lemao> arrenlex: yes
[08:59] <jacquesmerde> if i install then uninstall a package with synaptic, it'll leave all its unneeded dependences installed yeah?
[08:59] <wildchild> dabaR: I allready have that one
[09:00] <lemao> arrenlex: I basically need to copy a tree of files from point A to point B without the subversion .svn folders
[09:00] <seanj> i'm sure there's a way to exclude dot-files with a regular expression with find.. i just forget which format
[09:00] <dabaR> wildchild: to teach you how to find which one is needed..... aptitude search <whateverIsMissing>|grep dev, so aptitude search glib| grep dev
[09:00] <lemao> arrenlex: So I can package the tree as a DEBIAN package.
[09:00] <lemao> arrenlex: but I cant figure out how...
[09:01] <dabaR> lemao: I like #bash for that kind of question.
[09:01] <arrenlex> lemao: find -name "**[^.] "  | grep -v "/\."
[09:01] <arrenlex> xD
[09:01] <seanj> awesome!
[09:01] <seanj> lol
[09:01] <tripppy> MistaED, do you use myth TV?
[09:01] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, yes thats fine, I though ubuntu might have done something to live with the windows bootloader - what are the chances of things going wrong with Windows XP in case I install grub ? I will have to use the windows XP installation disk to recover the installation
[09:02] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, let me find you a quick and easy bootloader to install within windows
[09:02] <arrenlex> lemao: Does that work? xD
[09:02] <lemao> arrenlex: great. thanks
[09:02] <arrenlex> lemao: Hehe.
[09:02] <Okt> I am now sitting at a "busy" cursor, how can I see what is going on?
[09:03] <scribus> ctrl+alt+f1 for teh win!
[09:03] <lemao> arrenlex: getting warmer... :-)
[09:03] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, I would be really grateful for that
[09:03] <wildchild> dabaR: when I do aptitude search glib| grep dev, there are more than one suggestions: on what I have to be focused...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37515/
[09:03] <arrenlex> lemao: More problems? xD
[09:04] <arrenlex> wildchild: libglib-dev should be what you want.
[09:04] <dabaR> wildchild: well, read the error, 1.2 or greater. request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
[09:04] <lemao> arrenlex: I guess I can use the output of that command piped to the cpio, right?
[09:04] <dabaR> domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
[09:04] <dabaR> netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;
[09:04] <MistaED> trippy: i'd like to, i'm not sure how to use it personally
[09:04] <dabaR> weird.
[09:04] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, here you go -- http://www.ranish.com/part/xosl.htm
[09:04] <arrenlex> lemao: what do you want to do to it?
[09:05] <lemao> arrenlex: I basically want to copy a tree of files from point A to point B excluding .svn folders
[09:06] <un_operateur1> do they have to be copied in order?
[09:06] <dabaR> wildchild: so libglib1.2-dev, or libglib2.0-dev I would try the first one.
[09:06] <arrenlex> lemao: How about something like that command | xargs -I "foo" cp -r foo folder2/
[09:07] <arrenlex> lemao: Warning: came off the top of my head. No guarantee that it won't screw everything up. o_o
[09:07] <un_operateur1> or   for i in `find /path/to/folder | egrep -vi "\.svn$"`; do cp $i b/; done
[09:07] <tripppy> MistaED, what do you use to watch/record Tv?
[09:07] <jerb_> magnetic tape?
[09:07] <scribus> lemao: what about tar ...blah --exlcude=PATTERN
[09:07] <arrenlex> lemao: I tried it on a very simple example. Seems to work.
[09:08] <wildchild> is this maybe couse I couldn't install libqt3-dev. Now I tryed again apt-get install and here are packages need to be installed: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37516/
[09:08] <MistaED> trippy: just kaffeine, it's a kde app but there's no gnome equal for recording/detecting tv channels painlessly
[09:08] <scribus> erm, exclude
[09:08] <dabaR> wildchild: install libqt3-mt-dev and libglib1.2-dev
[09:09] <dabaR> wildchild: then try to configure again
[09:09] <arrenlex> wildchild: apt-get install kdebase-dev is the better way to do that, because it gives you all the packages you need to compile a qt app.
[09:09] <wildchild> dabaR: I have those 2 :S
[09:09] <lemao> arrenlex: you mean create tar excluding .svn, untar it at B and remove tar?
[09:09] <arrenlex> lemao: I don't mean anything. That was scribus.
[09:09] <un_operateur1> I'd install   libqt3-mt and  libqt3-mt-dev
[09:09] <arrenlex> lemao: _I_ suggested using xargs
[09:10] <dabaR> wildchild: show me the configure output again, and output of aptitude search libqt3-mt-dev libglib1.2-dev
[09:10] <podr0znik> another question - I wanted to delete the Gaim packes 'cause I don't like Gaim (I use Kopete). But then it says that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop also.
[09:10] <podr0znik> What does that mean?
[09:10] <podr0znik> I hope not that I will be convicted to command line?
[09:10] <podr0znik> :)
[09:10] <dabaR> !ubuntu-desktop > podr0znik
[09:10] <arrenlex> podr0znik: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that can be safely removed.
[09:10] <arrenlex> !metapackage | podr0znik
[09:10] <ubotu> podr0znik: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[09:11] <podr0znik> ah I see, ok, thanks again :)
[09:12] <wildchild> dabaR configure output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37519/ ; aptitude output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37520/
[09:12] <arrenlex> wildchild: Those pastes are the same.
[09:13] <dabaR> and neither show output of the commands I asked for.
[09:13] <wildchild> oh sorry
[09:14] <paranoid_android> hi there. im trying to execute a linux binary from a terminal. however, no matter what i do, i keep getting told No such file or directory. what can i do?? thank you :)
[09:14] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: chmod +x <file> && ./<file>
[09:14] <dabaR> paranoid_android: did you put ./ in front of binary file name when running it?
[09:14] <wildchild> dabaR: aptitude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37521/
[09:14] <paranoid_android> yep, its already executable and i did the ./ bit
[09:14] <arrenlex> ...that is still the same thing. xD
[09:15] <zazza> would anyone help me with an ESS 18xxx ISA Soundcard not detected?
[09:15] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: Use tab completion to make sure you get the name right.
[09:15] <dabaR> wildchild: aptitude search libqt3-mt-dev libglib1.2-dev
[09:15] <lemao> arrenlex: This worked great:    find | grep -v '/[.] ' | cpio -p ~/test
[09:15] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: i do. the name is only 8 characters long as well, and its clearly visible what it is too. =\
[09:15] <un_operateur1> aptitude install libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev
[09:16] <arrenlex> lemao: What does cpio do? I've never seen that command before.
[09:16] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: What's the name of the file?
[09:16] <tsmithe> hello everyone
[09:16] <un_operateur1> !cpio
[09:16] <ubotu> cpio: GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of files. In component main, is important. Version 2.6-17 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 520 kB
[09:16] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: gmid2mod
[09:16] <x-r00t-x> hello . can i vnc to windows pc ?
[09:17] <un_operateur1> x-r00t-x, as long as windows pc runs a vnc server, sure
[09:17] <wildchild> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37523/
[09:17] <tsmithe> does anyone here know how to set up mailman with postfix?
[09:17] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: Run this and pastebin all the output please: "file gmid2mod ; ls -l gmid2mod ; ./gmid2mod"
[09:17] <tripppy> MistaED, i just did a a probe that u suggested to me. i have the PCI one. 3020C.
[09:17] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur1,  can you tell me a good vnc server name for xp?
[09:17] <zazza> sorry guys... got an ISA soundcard not detected ESS 18xxx...
[09:17] <tripppy> MistaED, it didnt get found.
[09:17] <lemao> arrenlex: this is the first time I used it. it seems to be a very powerful recursive copy command that has one mode to copy file names passed into the standard input
[09:17] <un_operateur1> x-r00t-x, tightvnc
[09:18] <tsmithe> anyone?
[09:18] <x-r00t-x> tnx un_operateur1
[09:18] <un_operateur1> x-r00t-x, better - realvnc
[09:18] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37524/
[09:18] <tsmithe> please?
[09:18] <un_operateur1> it's supported better on windows
[09:18] <x-r00t-x> :D
[09:18] <wildchild> dabaR: and configure output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37525/
[09:19] <dabaR> tsmithe: google has to know about a tutorial on that.
[09:19] <tsmithe> yeah
[09:19] <tsmithe> i went through it
[09:19] <dabaR> wildchild: and what do you think you need to install next?
[09:19] <un_operateur1> dabaR, what are you building?
[09:19] <tsmithe> but i'm getting one persistent error that isn't very helpful
[09:19] <wildchild> dabaR those 2 packages ? :)
[09:19] <dabaR> un_operateur1: read the configure output
[09:20] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur1,  may i need VNC Enterprise Edition for Unix ??
[09:20] <x-r00t-x> on my ubuntu
[09:20] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> tkroo ,ok
[09:20] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> i was afk ....
[09:20] <un_operateur1> x-r00t-x, I thought you wanted to vnc to a windows box? :)
[09:20] <wildchild> dabaR: how can I isntall bouth packages in the same command: sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev & libqt3-mt-dev  ?
[09:20] <dabaR> wildchild: no, it says... configure: error: Library requirements (libusb >= 0.1.11) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. That means you use my formula, aptitude search <whateverConfigureSaysIsMissing>|grep dev. so, aptitude search libusb|grep dev
[09:21] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: ....that is so weird. o_o
[09:21] <dabaR> wildchild: just a space between them
[09:21] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur1,  yes . ubuntu to windows
[09:21] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: told ya lol
[09:21] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur1, i got it ... tnx for your help
[09:21] <un_operateur1> dabar is djplay is indeed what you are building -- i think this satisfies your build dependancies -- apt-get build-dep djplay
[09:21] <un_operateur1> if*
[09:21] <tsmithe> bah
[09:21] <tsmithe> i'm outta here
[09:22] <MistaED> trippy: ok you opened up kaffeine and it didn't do anything?
[09:22] <dabaR> un_operateur1: haha, good point
[09:22] <amonkey> why is apache2 ignoring my .htaccess file?
[09:22] <arrenlex> dabaR: Any ideas? xD http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37524/
[09:22] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 , if Ranish works for u then its fine ... but i knew of a project called Win GRUB that allowed u to load grub using ntldr (ntldr still sat over the mbr) ....
[09:23] <unimatrix9> do you think there should be more tutorials for beginners about ubuntu?
[09:24] <Flannel> unimatrix9: there's plenty of documentation out there
[09:24] <un_operateur1> !tutorials
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tutorials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <arrenlex> unimatrix9: When was the last time you saw a tutorial for beginners about windows? People should learn by experimenting.
[09:24] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !Ubuntuguide
[09:24] <unimatrix9> i see more books and tutorails then you can count in the local shops!
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <arrenlex> unimatrix9: Ever used one?
[09:25] <Flannel> unimatrix9: help.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> unimatrix9 , try ubuntuguide.org
[09:25] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: go to the computing section of your local library, under 000 in the dewey decimal section. Windows (insert number, letters here) for Dummies :-)
[09:25] <unimatrix9> not me , but there must be thousends that use them, hence its in the shop for profit remember?
[09:25] <Wiseguy> hey guys, does anyone know how i would output my video on my svideo rather than the laptop monitor?
[09:25] <unimatrix9> use fn
[09:25] <amonkey> i'm having trouble with apache2 ignoring my .htaccess is /var/www, but in the apache2.conf file i can't find where /var/www is explicitly shared.
[09:26] <unimatrix9> and the srceen out button
[09:26] <Wiseguy> whats fn?
[09:26] <danniy> im a novice in linux and i have a problem, can someone pm me?
[09:26] <unimatrix9> its on your keyboard...
[09:26] <un_operateur1> egrep -i "\/var\/www" /etc/apache2/apache2.conf  maybe :)
[09:26] <arrenlex> !ask | danniy
[09:26] <ubotu> danniy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:26] <Flannel> amonkey: ubuntu doesn't use apache2.conf for most stuff, it separates it out piecewise.  For instance, the /var/www you're looking for is in sites-enabled/
[09:26] <Wiseguy> ohhh
[09:27] <Wiseguy> but that outputs on the VGA
[09:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> danniy ,just ask it here.... more chances of u getting helped ...
[09:27] <Wiseguy> not the svideo
[09:27] <Wiseguy> or does it do both?
[09:27] <unimatrix9> oh yes you are right...sorry
[09:27] <miyako> I'm having a problem with installing Ubuntu on my G3 iBook.  I downloaded the 6.01 PPC DVD and burned the iso.  My Ubuntu box recognizes the disk, but when I put it in my iBook, I can see it in /Volumes but it won't boot, and I don't get the disk icon on the desktop (I don't see anything under /Volumes/Ubuntu 6.10, and when I ejected and re-inserted the disk it failed to show up under /Volumes)
[09:27] <podr0znik> ok, then me again with another stupid questions (if they exist)
[09:27] <unimatrix9> :P
[09:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> podr0znik , i rule at asking stupid questions
[09:27] <podr0znik> I'm trying to create an extra folder on my hard disk, just the way I was used to do that in W..... (don't want to curse here)
[09:27] <podr0znik> but the option is greyed out
[09:28] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[09:28] <podr0znik> do you, GreyGhost? ;)
[09:28] <frogzoo> Wiseguy: are you running fglrx ?
[09:28] <arrenlex> !hi | SilentDis
[09:28] <ubotu> SilentDis: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:28] <Wiseguy> hey unimatrix9 did you ever go by the name nmatrix?
[09:28] <SilentDis> lol hi arrenlex, ubotu :)
[09:28] <danniy> ok, so i just installed ubuntu and i have i account, when i use the su command my password is not good, what to do?
[09:28] <Wiseguy> frogzoo, no... im on an integrated intel chip
[09:28] <malt1> is there any good free SMTP hosts? that i could use for temp for my phpbb site to use for email confirm
[09:28] <Wiseguy> i810 i believe
[09:28] <podr0znik> so then I thought I could log in as root, but that apparently doesn't work like logging in as another user
[09:28] <unimatrix9> no never
[09:28] <arrenlex> !sudo | danniy
[09:28] <ubotu> danniy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:29] <danniy> thanx
[09:29] <unimatrix9> i got this nick registered so use it all the time
[09:29] <un_operateur1> su asks for root's password while sudo asks for yours
[09:29] <Wiseguy> ok, cause im sure i used to know a guy that used to idle in our linux chan that went by the name nmatrix9
[09:29] <danniy> but i did not made any root passwords
[09:29] <danniy> just my account
[09:29] <seanj> danniy: you only need your own password
[09:29] <unimatrix9> i am not that idle
[09:29] <arrenlex> danniy: sudo asks for YOUR password.
[09:29] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:29] <danniy> doesnt work
[09:29] <podr0znik> and regarding my question - would sudo also solve my thing?
[09:29] <un_operateur1> danniy, ubuntu doesnt have a root password set
[09:30] <SilentDis> podr0znik:  what are you looking to do?
[09:30] <un_operateur1>  .. by default atleast
[09:30] <podr0znik> very simple - create an extra folder on my hard disk
[09:30] <podr0znik> not in my home directory
[09:30] <danniy> i entered my pass, not good, i just entered blank , doesnt work
[09:30] <podr0znik> but from the root
[09:30] <Wiseguy> anyone else have any ideas on how i can switch to my svideo output?
[09:30] <un_operateur1> danniy,  i think you'll find that if you use sudo instead of su -- you'll be ok :)
[09:30] <SilentDis> podr0znik:  yes.  you can do a sudo mkdir /directory/name and it should allow you to (so long as the space is writeable)
[09:31] <un_operateur1> because sudo will ask for your password
[09:31] <zcat[1] > Wiseguy: what card?
[09:31] <miyako> podr0znik: try sudo mkdir /<directory names>
[09:31] <danniy> trying now
[09:31] <podr0znik> ok, let me try :)
[09:31] <unimatrix9> wiseguy
[09:31] <Rupie> The load average has three numbers. What do they mean?
[09:31] <unimatrix9> take a read for nvidia here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318876
[09:32] <Wiseguy> zcat[1] , im on an integrated intel card
[09:32] <Wiseguy> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz @ 600MHz]  mem[Physical : 487MB, 55.8% free]  disk[Total : 35.99GB, 79.50% Free]  video[Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device]  sound[] 
[09:32] <miyako> so anyone have any ideas about installing on an iBook G3
[09:32] <danniy> i just want to mount my win partitions
[09:32] <danniy> i dont know how to use sudo
[09:32] <zcat[1] > Wiseguy: sorry, can't help.. haven't had much experience with anything but nvidia :(
[09:32] <frogzoo> !ntfs | danniy
[09:32] <ubotu> danniy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:32] <un_operateur1> Rupie, I think they correspond to the real, user and sys loads
[09:32] <danniy> i have only a su handbook
[09:33] <Rupie> un_operateur1: what's that mean? lol
[09:33] <SilentDis> danniy:  an easy way to think about it is this:  typing sudo before a command basically makes it like that command will execute as root
[09:33] <Wiseguy> zcat[1] , is it a nvidia util that is used for nvidia chipsets?
[09:33] <un_operateur1> danni -- just use sudo instead of su
[09:33] <un_operateur1> sudo <command>
[09:33] <danniy> ok trying
[09:33] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy for your card its different
[09:34] <zcat[1] > Wiseguy: I set up twinview by hand in the xorg.conf. If you had an nvidia I could probably help....
[09:34] <Wiseguy> hmm i see
[09:34] <SilentDis> danniy:  and if you need a gui program to run as root (as example, running nautilus as root), you can gksudo <command>
[09:35] <un_operateur1> Rupie - man uptime
[09:35] <podr0znik> (me very ashamed now, but you were also new someday, right guys?) damn, how to get to the command line option???
[09:35] <frogzoo> SilentDis: you never have to run a gui as root, and it's not really advisable
[09:35] <Wiseguy> another thing is a dont wanna have to statically set my xorg.conf everytime i wanna switch to svideo and then back to normal monitor... is that possible?
[09:35] <Kachingo> Howdy, how do you use apt-get to install from a cd?
[09:35] <Ktracho> hi i program in c++ in visual basic c++ in windows and i installes the KDE C/C++ for ubuntu i tried starting to do my program but i didnt work plis help me
[09:35] <Rupie> un_operateur1: ok, I'll try that, thanks.
[09:36] <frogzoo> Kachingo: open synaptic -> settings -> repos & add cd
[09:36] <zcat[1] > Wiseguy: dunno.. If I were asking, I'd probably start with a google search for xorg+intel+svideo and see what turns up..
[09:36] <Kachingo> frogzoo: how would I do it from the command line?
[09:36] <arrenlex> Ktracho: "visual basic c++" is like "java fortran". What do you mean?
[09:36] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, i dont know, but i think you need to do some research on the topic
[09:36] <miyako> Ktracho, are you using C++ or Visual Basic?
[09:36] <un_operateur1> Kachingo, you pop the CD in -- sudo apt-cdrom; apt-get update; apt-get install <package>
[09:36] <Ktracho> C++
[09:36] <unimatrix9> here is an second read for the Wiseguy http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141031
[09:36] <Kachingo> cheers
[09:36] <SilentDis> frogzoo:  very true, the only things that 'need' it really are stuff like the package manager, imo.  everything else should be done from a command line.  and, most of the apps that could use root access create their links with gksudo already, so it's just more 'info' to have more than anything else :)
[09:36] <un_operateur1> oops -- sudo sh -c "apt-cdrom; apt-get update; apt-get install <package>" :)
[09:37] <zcat[1] > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239894&highlight=xorg.conf  perhaps?
[09:37] <Okt> Is there a way I can access a USB drive from the terminal
[09:37] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, dont forget to backup your xorg.conf file before editing it!
[09:37] <miyako> Ktracho, C++ applications written using the Windows API won't generally compile under Linux (I think there is a way to do it with Wine, but you'd probably have to ask some wine gurus)
[09:37] <Flannel> Okt: sure, just cd to whereever it's mounted
[09:38] <SilentDis> Okt:  did it automagically mount itself?  if it did, it'll be in /media/
[09:38] <unimatrix9> and have an live linux cd at hand, if thing go very wrong
[09:38] <zcat[1] > looks like you can set it up 'clone' so it will display the same on whatever happens to be plugged in...
[09:38] <Ktracho> ahh ok thanks
[09:38] <zcat[1] > that's how my tvout is set up ..
[09:38] <Okt> SilentDis: Not sure if it did, I am stuck without the gui
[09:38] <tripppy> MistaED,its finding stuff now.
[09:38] <miyako> if your application is just using standard C++ without any Microsoft specific APIs, then you can install gcc and use g++ to compile the application from the command line, or check out some of the IDEs for Linux, Anjuta and KDevelop are good C/C++ IDEs for Linux, there is also a C++ plugin for Eclipse
[09:38] <SilentDis> okt:  well, check in media, also, type mount without any command arguments to see what's mounted.
[09:39] <frogzoo> Okt: cd /media/USB*
[09:39] <tripppy> MistaED, abc channel only. ill move it to a antenna rather a rabbit set.
[09:39] <Ktracho> can some one PM me so i can show him the C++ code ?
[09:39] <MistaED> trippy: cool, i've found in the past that i needed to delete the $HOME/.kde/share/kaffeine directory to get it to work
[09:39] <Okt> frogzoo: showed up as "ipod"
[09:39] <Wiseguy> by the sounds of things even the people that do get them to work say it doesnt work very well... :S
[09:40] <MistaED> tripppy: that's for getting kaffeine to detect the tuner, but good that it's working somewhat for you :)
[09:40] <Canopus> Hi all
[09:40] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, and the s-video out does not give very good image anyway
[09:40] <unimatrix9> even on Xp its sad
[09:40] <tripppy> MistaED, yeah, i bought it on ebay incl postage 30au!
[09:41] <Canopus> Any one of you upgraded to Edgy and his pc does not boot?
[09:41] <Wiseguy> unimatrix9, i wanted to use it just to watch movies...
[09:41] <Wiseguy> and output them on my tv
[09:41] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, dont bother
[09:41] <SilentDis> canopus:  do you get an error?  does it make it to grub?  the usplash?
[09:41] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, its blurry and not nice
[09:42] <unimatrix9> use an dvd player, or use your labtop
[09:42] <Canopus> SilentDis: it goes upto grub, I select the kernel and then no usaplash, error no theme for 640x480
[09:42] <unimatrix9> or use an beamer with the svg out
[09:42] <unimatrix9> hehe
[09:42] <Canopus> and it hangs
[09:42] <Ktracho> i have windows and ubunto on the same had drive can i share files like .mp3 ?
[09:42] <zcat[1] > unimatrix9: that's what I use my nvidia for.. the picture's as sharp as the DVD.. but still a lot less sharp than a monitor.
[09:42] <[hive] > Hey, anyone know whats going on with ca.archive.ubuntu.com? it keeps timing out and I can't apt-get anything
[09:42] <Ktracho> iam new sorry
[09:42] <Wiseguy> ive got a buddy that plays all his PC games on his tv through his s-video... and it looks fine
[09:43] <SilentDis> !mp3 | ktracho
[09:43] <ubotu> ktracho: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:43] <Okt> Is there a command in "nano" for "save as"?
[09:43] <seanj> i agree tv out for movies looks fine
[09:43] <SilentDis> okt:  ^X
[09:43] <tripppy> XBMC and xbox is ultimate.
[09:43] <SilentDis> okt:  er, sorry <ctrl>-x :)
[09:43] <noiesmo> Okt, use ctrl +x and then change the file name
[09:43] <podr0znik> hmm, one step further already
[09:44] <Wiseguy> tripppy, yeah thats what ive got at home... im just at my parents house for christmas break, so im stuck with my lappy
[09:44] <podr0znik> can anybody recommend me some URL with "Linux command line for Newbies"?
[09:44] <we6jbo> hi
[09:44] <we6jbo> hello
[09:44] <SilentDis> canopus:  i haven't seen that one yet...  anyone else in the room see anything like that happen after an edgy upgrade?
[09:44] <seanj> hi we6jbo
[09:44] <miyako> podr0znik, check out the Linux Reality podcast
[09:44] <we6jbo> I have a question
[09:44] <miyako> let me find a link
[09:44] <arrenlex> !ask | we6jbo
[09:44] <ubotu> we6jbo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:44] <miyako> he did a few episodes on the command line
[09:44] <miyako> it's a great resource for new linux users
[09:44] <we6jbo> I have a motherboard
[09:44] <podr0znik> I see
[09:45] <podr0znik> we6jbo: So do I :)
[09:45] <we6jbo> I know it won't run linux
[09:45] <miyako> podr0znik, http://www.linuxreality.com/
[09:45] <zcat[1] > the easiest way is just dual-boot for your games and movies. WindowsXP is still way easier than linux for setting up multiple displays :(
[09:45] <podr0znik> thanks miyako
[09:45] <we6jbo> and I'm going to get a new one. I want a motherboard that will run linux or actually ubuntu
[09:45] <arrenlex> podr0znik: xD!
[09:45] <miyako> no problem podr0znik
[09:45] <SilentDis> we6jbo: please don't use the return key as a form of punctuation for your comments.  this room gets REALLY busy and it'll just get lost :)
[09:45] <we6jbo> ok
[09:45] <arrenlex> SilentDis: We have a factoid for that. xD
[09:46] <Shadow_Fi> hi all
[09:46] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  there is?  share!
[09:46] <arrenlex> !enter | SilentDis , we6jbo
[09:46] <ubotu> SilentDis , we6jbo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:46] <SilentDis> yay ubotu!
[09:46] <arrenlex> Indeed. Ubotu knows all.
[09:46] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[09:46] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:46] <Canopus> any ideas anyone .... I don't want to reinstall ... it's just not an option for me
[09:46] <Shadow_Fi> can someone help me?
[09:46] <arrenlex> !someone | Shadow_Fi
[09:46] <ubotu> Shadow_Fi: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:47] <unimatrix9> w6jbo there seem to be motherboards out there that even come with an  linux distro bundled
[09:47] <seanj> i found a motherboard list on linux.com.. dont' know how up-to-date it is: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Hardware-HOWTO/motherboards.shtml
[09:47] <we6jbo> What I want is a motherboard that will run Ubuntu. I am going to go to Frys Electronics to get this motherboard and I know that they like Windows. Where can I get a list of motherboards that support linux or actually ubuntu which I will install onto my compute.
[09:47] <dabaR> Canopus: ya, I have an idea.
[09:47] <SilentDis> shadow_fi:  only ubotu is omnipotent, not the rest of us.  ask your question please :)
[09:47] <Shadow_Fi> I have Error 17 when booting with GRUB
[09:47] <frogzoo> !hardware
[09:47] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:47] <SilentDis> we6jbo:  i haven't herd of a mobo that DOESN'T work with linux.
[09:47] <Canopus> dabaR: Ok, may I know what it is?
[09:48] <we6jbo> Ok I did go to that website and I only see 9 motherboards that will work
[09:48] <frogzoo> !grub | Shadow_Fi
[09:48] <ubotu> Shadow_Fi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:48] <dabaR> Canopus: edit the grub boot line, by pressing e on the option you want to edit when you get the grub menu. Then you will make it not load usplash, I will find how to do that.
[09:48] <danniy> how do i see my win partitions in ubuntu? sorry for being such a stress
[09:48] <Canopus> I tried that too
[09:48] <SilentDis> danniy:  are they ntfs partitions?
[09:48] <Shadow_Fi> First partition is NTFS primary, then extended 2 partitions, /home and swap, then primary linux partition, which i use as a boot
[09:48] <frogzoo> !ntfs | danniy
[09:48] <ubotu> danniy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:48] <danniy> nope
[09:48] <danniy> fat32
[09:48] <Canopus> dabaR: I removed usplash from the end of line ... no result
[09:48] <danniy> cuz in ntfs linux cant write
[09:48] <macogw> they should be visible by default...
[09:48] <unimatrix9> Asus seems to be an good choice
[09:49] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | danniy
[09:49] <ubotu> danniy: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:49] <frogzoo> danniy: not true anymore
[09:49] <danniy> they are just there but when i try to open it sais the drive cant be mount
[09:49] <dabaR> Canopus: still says no splash image for that resolution?
[09:49] <SilentDis> danniy:  should be able to just mount it.  are you running IDE drives, or SATA drives?
[09:49] <we6jbo> SilentDis, the motherboard that I have right now which is a EIS motherboard states on their website that linux will not work and will not be supported which if I had been smart the first time and checked I would not have bought their motherboard
[09:49] <danniy> ide
[09:49] <Canopus> it says nothing ... just hangs does not boot
[09:50] <danniy> linux in on second ide
[09:50] <xarorax> hey
[09:50] <dabaR> Canopus: but does not complain about the splash image?
[09:50] <Shadow_Fi> how i should format my hdd?
[09:50] <miyako> well, night all
[09:50] <Canopus> it does not after I remove usplash from the command line.
[09:50] <zcat[1] > Yay, we can finally write ntfs.. what filesystem will Vista use? :(
[09:50] <ubul3> what can i do to improve boot time in ubuntu?
[09:50] <dabaR> hah
[09:50] <Canopus> It does if I don't remove usplash
[09:50] <xarorax> iv been looking around and still cant seem to find what im looking for: what is the minimum requirements to run ubuntu server?
[09:51] <dabaR> Canopus: but when you do it does not. OK. No idea what to fix then.
[09:51] <arrenlex> zcat[1] : Still ntfs. They dropped their plans for the next gen filesystem in order to be able to actually, you know, release it.
[09:51] <SilentDis> danniy:  you should be able to just mount it directly...
[09:51] <Shadow_Fi> someone can help me in privat?
[09:51] <SilentDis> !mount | danniy
[09:51] <ubotu> danniy: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:51] <danniy> cant
[09:51] <frogzoo> ubul3: boot times in edgy are already pretty good
[09:51] <reverseblade> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[09:51] <reverseblade> /dev/sda1             106G  -57G  157G   -  /
[09:51] <reverseblade> is above normal ?
[09:51] <SilentDis> danniy:  do you get an error when you try?
[09:51] <Canopus> dabaR: :) thanks for the help
[09:51] <zcat[1] > arrenlex: Ahh true... Microsoft hasn't figured out how to write to WinFS yet. They outobfuscated themselves!
[09:51] <ubul3> frogzoo: still there must be some services that can be disabled?
[09:52] <danniy> yup, sais this is not a removable drive
[09:52] <frogzoo> ubul3: definately turn off services you don't need
[09:52] <ubul3> frogzoo: where can I find those
[09:52] <ubul3> *****************
[09:52] <SilentDis> danniy:  what did you type for your mount command?
[09:52] <danniy> could not execute pmount
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> /dev/hda1               1        3188    25607578+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> /dev/hda2   *        3189        9460    50379840   83  Linux
[09:52] <frogzoo> ubul3: /etc/rc2.d/ & pls don't spam
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> /dev/hda3            9461        9729     2160742+   5  Extended
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> /dev/hda5            9461        9729     2160711   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[09:52] <danniy> just entered computer and doubleclick
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> is this wrong?
[09:52] <SilentDis> !pastebin | shadow_fi
[09:52] <ubotu> shadow_fi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:52] <arrenlex> !paste | Shadow_Fi
[09:52] <eNaq> i have a serious problem with installing ubuntu
[09:52] <ubotu> Shadow_Fi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:52] <ubul3> frogzoo: sorry about that
[09:52] <xarorax> iv been looking around and still cant seem to find what im looking for: what is the minimum requirements to run ubuntu server?
[09:52] <xarorax> does anyone have a moment to let me know?
[09:52] <frogzoo> !paste ! Shadow_Fi
[09:53] <arrenlex> zcat[1] : http://bash.org/?55568 :D
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste ! Shadow_Fi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <eNaq> i need some help
[09:53] <macogw> enaq, whats the problem
[09:53] <frogzoo> Shadow_Fi: never paste in channel
[09:53] <Shadow_Fi> sorry
[09:53] <eNaq> the partition i created
[09:53] <eNaq> is not accepted by the installer
[09:53] <Shadow_Fi> anyway, anyone knows where am i wrong?
[09:53] <eNaq> the newworld boot partition
[09:53] <SilentDis> !enter | enaq
[09:53] <ubotu> enaq: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:53] <eNaq> it says it cannot find one...
[09:53] <dts> is there a way to foreward signals from a midi controller to an emulation keyboard so that i can assign Xevents to them?
[09:54] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Shadow_Fi ,use http://rafb.net/paste/
[09:54] <eNaq> sorry.
[09:54] <zch> can someone help me out, i have problems with installing kubuntu, it starts normally , i select install kubuntu blah blah, and when it comes to language selection screen my keyboard stops working (i have usb keyboard) and it says something about failing to load usb support
[09:54] <ubul3> frogzoo: how do I disable a service?
[09:54] <SilentDis> enaq:  no problems.  that's why the factoids are there :)
[09:54] <eNaq> great.
[09:54] <macogw> zch, try the text based installer (on the alternate install cd).  the live cd has been known to have issues with drivers
[09:54] <frogzoo> ubul3: I just mv rc2.d/S##service to rc2.d/K##service
[09:55] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> zch ,maybe u have a ps/2 keyboard somehwhere aroung?
[09:55] <xarorax> hello?
[09:55] <zch> i need alternate install because i have amd xp 64
[09:55] <Shadow_Fi> how i format my HDD to install Ubuntu with installed Windows?
[09:55] <zch> and no i don't have ps/2 keyboard
[09:55] <SilentDis> danniy:  i must've missed it, how did you try to mount the drive?
[09:55] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !hello | zch
[09:55] <zch> as matter of fact my ps/2 ports are fried (don't ask me how that happened)
[09:55] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[09:55] <xarorax> aanyone home?
[09:55] <SilentDis> !hi | xarorax
[09:55] <ubotu> xarorax: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:55] <arrenlex> !hi | zch, GreyGhost-Ubuntu
[09:55] <ubotu> zch, GreyGhost-Ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:55] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> zch ,sorry... damned ctrl + C
[09:55] <danniy> entered the computer file broser
[09:55] <frogzoo> zch: how did you fry your ps2 ports?
[09:56] <zch> i said don't ask :)
[09:56] <Okt> Now when I load up into the gui I get "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit." This is my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37528/
[09:56] <frogzoo> zch: but now I'm intrigued...
[09:56] <SilentDis> danniy:  ahhh, you must mount the drive first, so you can have access to it.
[09:56] <danniy> how?
[09:56] <SilentDis> !mount | danniy
[09:56] <ubotu> danniy: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:56] <danniy> i know, im stupid
[09:57] <zch> frogzoo: well it was really hot here, so i took a big fan and pointed it to comp case to cool it down, it worked several months like that, and then it was so dirty that prolly some dirt made a shorcut somewhere and fried ps/2
[09:57] <SilentDis> danniy:  no, you're not.  just uninformed.  HUGE difference.  the fact that you're asking here is evidence of that :)
[09:58] <danniy> when i first installed my linux i could see the win partitions, but now i reinstalled it and nothing
[09:58] <zch> macogw: i tried text installer too, same outcome
[09:58] <SilentDis> !diskmounter | danniy
[09:58] <ubotu> danniy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:58] <frogzoo> zch: heh - stuff happens
[09:58] <zch> frogzoo: it surely does :(
[09:58] <danniy> going now to read
[09:58] <frogzoo> danniy: did you read the link from ubotu already?
[09:59] <Edulix> hi
[09:59] <Edulix> anyone installed opera 9.10 in ubuntu?
[09:59] <arrenlex> !hi | Edulix
[09:59] <ubotu> Edulix: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:59] <frogzoo> !anyone | Edulix
[09:59] <ubotu> Edulix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:59] <SilentDis> danniy:  if you have more questions, just ask.  if those don't help you... i'm sure someone here can walk you through editing /etc/fstab to do it automatically for you :)
[09:59] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !Opera
[09:59] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[10:00] <Edulix> the pakage is probably thought for debian and it wants me to install  libqt3c102-mt
[10:00] <arrenlex> Yay factoid flooding.
[10:00] <Waappu> Hi. Could you help me please? I can't get sound out of Haupauge WinTV PVR PCI. TV picture is fine.
[10:00] <arrenlex> Edulix: Yes, that is a debian package.
[10:00] <Edulix> arrenlex: how can I tell dpkg dtabase that it's already installed?
[10:00] <un_operateur1> Edulix, you can download the .deb from opera's repo and install it manually
[10:00] <Edulix> so that it doesn't complain
[10:01] <Edulix> un_operateur1: I'm sure. that's exactly what I did
[10:01] <Edulix> xD
[10:01] <SilentDis> waappu:  just to verify the basics:  most tv cards I've played with in the past require a 'bridge' to go to the soundcard.  either an internal connetor, or a shim deal.  is that installed?
[10:01] <Edulix> un_operateur1: the ubuntu package is still the old one
[10:01] <Edulix> not for 9.10 afaik
[10:01] <un_operateur1> Edulix, I just installed opera :)
[10:01] <Edulix> un_operateur1: which version?
[10:01] <Edulix> (check it!)
[10:01] <marc2> how can I find out the uuid of a disk? I just copied the contenst of one part, into another disk, and I am trying to run update-grub but I get findfs: Unable to resolve 'UUID=ce16fa55-3c82-45ca-8d7e-676c29229c1f'
[10:02] <Waappu> Yes , I have cable from board to CD connector and also loop cable from board to sound card line in
[10:02] <SilentDis> !uuid
[10:02] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:02] <un_operateur1> dpkg -l | grep opera : ii  opera  9.02-20060919.6  The Opera Web Browser
[10:02] <Edulix> un_operateur1: see
[10:02] <Edulix> no 9.10
[10:03] <un_operateur1> Edulix, its the latest .deb on operas repo
[10:03] <Edulix> which way do I tell to apt database that the package libqt3c102-mt is already installed ?
[10:03] <SilentDis> waappu:  and whatever TV app you're using has CD audio selected as it's source?  and the mixer doesn't have that muted?
[10:03] <arrenlex> !equivs | Edulix
[10:03] <ubotu> equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[10:03] <Edulix> un_operateur1: yes, but not the lastest version of opera: http://digg.com/software/Opera_9_10_Final
[10:03] <chalcedony> how would i read 'somebook.tar' ?
[10:03] <marc2> SilentDis: ok, but why would update-grub fail? how can I "tell" my system that the old hd with the old uuid, is no more, that a new hd is in place
[10:03] <marc2> chable: tar xvf somebook.tar
[10:03] <arrenlex> chalcedony: By untarring it.
[10:04] <chalcedony> untar somebook.tar ?
[10:04] <Edulix> arrenlex: ?
[10:04] <arrenlex> chalcedony: tar xf somebook.tar
[10:04] <barata> hey all ... how to play flash alone?
[10:04] <_goofy_> is it possible to add a new Harddrive
[10:04] <chalcedony> arrenlex: ty
[10:04] <arrenlex> Edulix: That package provides utilities to do what you want. Google to find out how to use it.
[10:04] <frogzoo> marc2: /boot/grub/menu.lst - change the kopt=root=UUID line
[10:04] <_goofy_> is it possible to add a new Harddrive to a lvm
[10:04] <SilentDis> !flash | arrenlex
[10:04] <ubotu> arrenlex: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:04] <Ktracho> can i change ubuntu's language once installed ?
[10:04] <arrenlex> SilentDis: I have Flash 9 already, thanks. xD
[10:04] <chalcedony> arrenlex: ok i did that .. what next?
[10:04] <marc2> frogzoo: thanks, but I deleted that file (on purpose), I dont know where update-grub is getting that crap
[10:05] <arrenlex> chalcedony: What is somebook.tar?
[10:05] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  oh!  you're looking for a standalone flash player or the like?  (outside browser)
[10:05] <arrenlex> (02:04:05 AM) barata: hey all ... how to play flash alone?
[10:05] <Ktracho> can i change ubuntu's language once installed ?????????
[10:05] <frogzoo> marc2: you delete /boot/grub/menu.lst o.O
[10:05] <arrenlex> SilentDis: arrenlex != barata
[10:05] <chalcedony> arrenlex: a book i want to read
[10:05] <arrenlex> chalcedony: In what format?
[10:05] <marc2> frogzoo: I moved it, it doesnt matter, update-grub should regenerate it
[10:05] <Waappu> Nothing is muted on mixer. How I can check source in TVtime program. I have try other programs but no luck. Also I can't get sound out from fm-radio
[10:05] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  doh, darn dyslexia, sorry :P
[10:05] <frogzoo> marc2: menu.lst is an _input_ file for update-grub
[10:05] <macogw> ktracho, yes you can. you have to change a few environment variables
[10:06] <barata> arrentex, I mean a stand alone flash player (anyway, the gflashplayer sucks bad time)
[10:06] <marc2> frogzoo: oh ok, how can I regenerate it?
[10:06] <nevron> i have a problem with the ati fglrx drivers the big desktop setting never works i have tried everything i know can anybody help?
[10:06] <arrenlex> barata: http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b2_standalone_linux
[10:06] <macogw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5410 ktracho, look there
[10:06] <arrenlex> barata: Why does it suck?
[10:06] <chalcedony> arrenlex: mybook.tar.gz
[10:07] <arrenlex> chalcedony: .tar.gz is an archive, like .zip. What file is inside the archive?
[10:07] <barata> arrentex: can't rewind/forward. it just plays
[10:07] <frogzoo> marc2: best I can do: /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst
[10:07] <SilentDis> take care all.  i'm too tired to provide good help to people right now it appears.  i need sleepy lol
[10:07] <arrenlex> barata: I'm pretty sure it cna do these things.
[10:07] <marc2> frogzoo: UUID is amazing (as in bad)
[10:08] <frogzoo> marc2: seriously, regenerating menu.lst is going to be a major pain - maybe google will turn up something
[10:08] <zch> so no suggestions how i could resolve my issue
[10:08] <zch> apart from suicide
[10:08] <anorexicpillow> lol
[10:08] <marc2> frogzoo: I didnt delete it, i moved it, Ill bring it back, btw mount doenst show / mounted, hah!
[10:09] <Spitfireleet> whats a good screen recording software?
[10:09] <arrenlex> barata: Oh, no it can't...
[10:09] <marc2> Spitfireleet: they all suck
[10:09] <modec> how can I install intel 3d drivers?
[10:09] <chalcedony> arrenlex: my friend told me: totall_6_7 vairied formats
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .txt
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .html
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .doc
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .lit
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .rtf
[10:09] <arrenlex> !istanbul | Spitfireleet
[10:09] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[10:09] <frogzoo> marc2: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[10:09] <arrenlex> chalcedony: There you go, lots of options. Open one of those files. Whichever you like.
[10:10] <chalcedony> arrenlex: okie dokie ty much :)
[10:10] <Spitfireleet> thanks you guys, but what do they use on this video? http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4619385365015674477&q=ubuntu+uk
[10:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,graphics chiset?
[10:10] <marc2> frogzoo: tried that, twice
[10:10] <Edulix> now, opera 9.10 installed
[10:10] <Edulix> how?  sudo dpkg --force-depends -i opera_9.10-20061214.5-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[10:10] <marc2> frogzoo: the wonders of uuid!
[10:11] <frogzoo> marc2: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hd# /
[10:11] <marc2> frogzoo: nope
[10:11] <clayg> #windows
[10:11] <modec> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: 855GM
[10:11] <clayg> anyone here print their own photos?
[10:11] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec . 6.10 ?
[10:11] <modec> yeap
[10:12] <frogzoo> marc2: boot live cd & fix menu.lst
[10:12] <chalcedony> arrenlex: is there is a way to list the contents of the compressed file
[10:12] <chalcedony> ?
[10:12] <modec> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: yes
[10:12] <marc2> frogzoo: I am in my working install, no need for that
[10:13] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,its not already deteced?
[10:13] <chalcedony> clayg: yes
[10:13] <marc2> frogzoo: i am changin menu.lst now with the new $*%$#*%$ uuid
[10:13] <arrenlex> chalcedony: tar tf <file>
[10:13] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,  run "glxinfo | grep render"
[10:14] <frogzoo> but marc2, UUID makes your life easier ;)
[10:14] <chalcedony> arrenlex: ty :)
[10:14] <modec> GreyGhost-Ubuntu:I get extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:14] <marc2> frogzoo: ehh no, try dealing with it when cloning hds
[10:14] <frogzoo> marc2: you missed the sarcasm font
[10:14] <clayg> chalcedony, what type of paper do you use?
[10:14] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,one sec .... i think i've read bout that ...
[10:14] <clayg> I got some for free with my hp AIO printer and I  bought 100 for 7 (kodak gloss)
[10:15] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !855GM
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 855GM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <marc2> frogzoo: heh
[10:15] <frogzoo> marc2: if you're cloning lots of machines, consider using /dev/### syntax instead of UUID
[10:15] <clayg> and the ones that came with the printer are WAY WAY better, then the ones i bought, just wonderinf what I should look for and what is a good type
[10:15] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,havent tried this myself ...... but worth trying i'd say ...  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28Intel.29
[10:16] <modec> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: thanks I ll try that
[10:16] <marc2> frogzoo: I cant, uuid is turned on by default, whatever voodoo it uses, that son of a bitch just made my list, right next to udev
[10:16] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,as i said i havent tried it muyslef .....but i believe 82855 GM is the graphics controller for 855GM mobos
[10:17] <frogzoo> marc2: you just change the kopt=root=UUID to kopt=root=/dev/hd##
[10:17] <frogzoo> marc2: also probably the groot definition
[10:17] <marc2> frogzoo: uuid is also used in /etc/fstab....
[10:18] <frogzoo> marc2: yep, so just those 2 places
[10:18] <mszzz> is amd64 version of ubuntu faster ?
[10:18] <nevron> can anybody help me with this big desktop thing in fglrx
[10:18] <arrenlex> mszzz: You will not notice a difference in normal desktop use. And it's quite a headache because of compatibility.
[10:19] <frogzoo> mszzz: for server stuff yes, for desktop, not really
[10:19] <arrenlex> mszzz: I advise you stick with 32-bit distros.
[10:19] <mszzz> thanks
[10:20] <chalcedony> ~$ abiword Tribulation Force - rtf.rtf
[10:20] <chalcedony> Error on option -: unknown option.
[10:20] <chalcedony> Run 'abiword --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[10:20] <chalcedony> ~$
[10:20] <arrenlex> chalcedony: You have to escape your spaces. Instead of " ", use "\ ". Otherwise Linux treats them in a different way.
[10:21] <arrenlex> chalcedony: I strongly advise you to use tab completion instead. Type "abiword Tri" and then press tab two times to have it complete the file name.
[10:21] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Or else open the file from the file manager ;)
[10:21] <un_operateur1> I strongly advise not using spaces in filenames at all :)
[10:21] <chalcedony> not working
[10:22] <chalcedony> un_operateur1: noo fooling . i didn't create these files
[10:22] <arrenlex> chalcedony: abiword Tribulation\ Force\ -\ rtf.rtf
[10:22] <chalcedony> ahh
[10:22] <un_operateur1> chalcedony, or -- abiword "Tribulation Force - rtf.rtf"
[10:22] <lemao> I am trying to install a debian package I created myself but it is failing with the following message: "Err file: binary/ mypackage 0,1  File not found" Any Ideas?
[10:22] <arrenlex> lemao: Still messing with opera, are you?
[10:23] <chalcedony> arrenlex: opened abiword . unnamed file
[10:23] <arrenlex> chalcedony: File - open - browse to the file xP
[10:23] <chalcedony> i wonder if we could 'mv "nasty file name"
[10:23] <un_operateur1> . o 0 ( I dunno why he doesnt just use TAB )
[10:23] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Seriously, man, use tab completion.
[10:24] <lemao> I was able to get the excluding tree copy solution, but someone sugested that I use svn export instead, which i a lot cleaner.
[10:24] <chalcedony> arrenlex: abiword and i have a problem.. i moved to ubuntu from debian.. all my files are in "home" .. a thousand or so.. the gui  for abilword wont find the files
[10:24] <arrenlex> lemao: Oh, that wasn't you that was messing with opear. XD SOrry.
[10:24] <lemao> np
[10:25] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Why? It should. Does nautilus see them?
[10:25] <danniy> i cant edit the pmount.allow with gksudo.  WARNING: cannot open display
[10:25] <Thunder00> hello... how to search for a specific content of a file in a directory of files.
[10:25] <chalcedony> arrenlex:  i don't know if nautilus works . haven't tried it what's the command?
[10:25] <arrenlex> Thunder00: grep "foo" *
[10:25] <frogzoo> Thunder00: grep 'string'  *
[10:25] <un_operateur1> Thunder00,  grep -inHR <string> /path/to/files/*
[10:25] <arrenlex> chalcedony: ...you ARE gnome, right?
[10:26] <chalcedony> arrenlex: yes and i'm a mom
[10:26] <arrenlex> chalcedony: ...A gnome. xD
[10:26] <arrenlex> Wait.
[10:26] <arrenlex> IN
[10:26] <chalcedony> :)
[10:26] <arrenlex> IN gnome. Omg
[10:26] <Thunder00> thanks
[10:26] <prOMiNd> any know how to add new resolutions
[10:26] <prOMiNd> i have only 800x600 and 1024x768
[10:26] <prOMiNd> i need all resolutions..
[10:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> prOMiNd , get ur display driver installed?
[10:27] <arrenlex> chalcedony: You know, I think I knew that. Were you the one I said was pretending to be a girl to have the guys help her, or was that someone else?
[10:27] <frogzoo> !fixres | prOMiNd
[10:27] <ubotu> prOMiNd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ok no then....
[10:27] <chalcedony> gosh arrenlex i hope not
[10:27] <arrenlex> Good. :)
[10:27] <chalcedony> :)
[10:27] <danniy> the link u gave me for mounting win partitions doesnt work
[10:27] <arrenlex> Nautilus is the file manager... do you usually manage files from the command line?
[10:27] <chalcedony> arrenlex: yes
[10:28] <chalcedony> ls filename .. grep
[10:28] <prOMiNd> i need 1280 x 1024
[10:28] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Try running the "nautilus" command.
[10:28] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> i suppose u need drivers only in Windows world....
[10:28] <prOMiNd> ok
[10:28] <youser> hey i noticed in my firestarter active connections theres a service clled Auth running anyone know what thatis for?
[10:28] <un_operateur1> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, you need drivers in every world :)
[10:28] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: I wish. Then things would actually work in Linux.
[10:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu>  un_operateur1 ,but linux ships thenm all>
[10:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ?
[10:29] <un_operateur1> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, no way
[10:29] <chalcedony> 6887 items 47.8 gb
[10:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex , lol ...
[10:29] <youser> ive never seen it before but Auth doesnt sound too good
[10:29] <Rookie_> prOMiNd - open the file xorg.conf (/etc/X11) and see how its in that file, you can then add your res to what ever you want
[10:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> un_operateur1 , the only driver i installed uptill now is my graphics driver one ....
[10:29] <danniy> any other possibilities to mount win partitions?
[10:29] <arrenlex> chalcedony: a) wow, that is a LOT of files o_o b) where is that from?
[10:30] <zch> i found a solution
[10:30] <gnomefreak> !mount | danniy
[10:30] <un_operateur1> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, well, once you get out of the realm of the usual hardware into peripherals -- its a whole different story
[10:30] <ubotu> danniy: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:30] <zch> i broke kubuntu disk in half
[10:30] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hmm.... Ubuntu auto mounts my Win partition at boot
[10:30] <zch> fuck you kubuntu!
[10:30] <arrenlex> !language | zch
[10:30] <pradeep> !op
[10:30] <ubotu> zch: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:30] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[10:30] <gnomefreak> zch: watch your language
[10:30] <gnomefreak> pradeep: im here
[10:30] <youser> anyone at all know what th service Auth is in my firestarter?
[10:30] <chalcedony> arrenlex: the bottome of the gui file thing
[10:30] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> un_operateur ,oh then ... it'll statrt coming to me in a few days...
[10:30] <un_operateur1> the lack of drivers on linux still is one of the reasons many people dont fully migrate over
[10:31] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Yes, but do you actually see any of the files?
[10:31] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: It's not our fault. Corporations release neither drivers nor specs. There's not a lot we can do in that situation.
[10:31] <arrenlex> HI yango!
[10:31] <evad> the lack of drivers /for/ linux, more like - Linux supports more hardware itself than any other OS ever
[10:31] <chalcedony> arrenlex: i see them .. it's going to take a long time to look at all of them
[10:32] <chalcedony> arrenlex: control f isn't doing so well
[10:32] <arrenlex> chalcedony: You don't need to look at all of them. Just go wherever you unzipped your tarball.
[10:32] <Rookie_> Tell the manufactors to make drivers for linux ... and it has to be free of charge ...
[10:32] <youser> what is Auth service????
[10:32] <un_operateur1> evad, are you being serious ?
[10:32] <evad> yes.
[10:32] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !who are U?
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who are U? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !help
[10:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:32] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ahh ..tahts the one... :)
[10:33] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: !ubotu also works and is probably easier to remember.
[10:33] <chalcedony> arrenlex:   ~$ tar tf leftbehind09-23-06.tar
[10:33] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex ,hehe k
[10:33] <frogzoo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: you can also msg the bot so you don't spam the channel
[10:33] <un_operateur1> evad, if linux supports more hardware than any other OS -- it must mean drivers are readily available for any hardware under linux, but that just aint the case
[10:33] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !ubotu
[10:33] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> oh k
[10:33] <arrenlex> chalcedony: That lists all the files in it. Did you actually unpack it?
[10:33] <chalcedony> yes
[10:34] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> frogzoo ,the usual /msg ubotu ?
[10:34] <frogzoo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: sure
[10:34] <chalcedony> but the file names are messed up with spaces/
[10:34] <un_operateur1> if linux supported hardware like we dream it should -- everybody'd be using linux now
[10:34] <Temp_pennywise> i accidently removed madwifi from from /usr/src/linux-headers/drivers
[10:34] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> k
[10:34] <Temp_pennywise> how do i reinstall it
[10:34] <Lynoure> Rookie_: Actually, better if they released the specs, or open source drivers. Free of charge drivers can be pulled or not work with certain kernels.
[10:34] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Linux supports hardware like monochrome screens and the Tandy which nothing else supports anymore.
[10:34] <arrenlex> ...probably not tandy.
[10:34] <arrenlex> But things like that.
[10:34] <chalcedony> un_operateur1: ubuntu is a LOT closer to supporting most applications that people need
[10:34] <fredl> hi, can the mysql password in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf for debian-sys-maint be cleartext?
[10:34] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, errm yea .. linux was programmed on a monochrome :)
[10:35] <un_operateur1> chalcedony, applications != hardware
[10:35] <fredl> coz I'm trying to instal bugzilla and it says: DEBUG   - Opening a MySQL connection on DBI:mysql:;localhost;3306 with user debian-sys-maint...
[10:35] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: I'm just saying that Linux does support more hardware. It's just old hardware no one actually uses.
[10:35] <youser> aaaaaaaauthhhh?
[10:35] <fredl> DEBUG   - Failed to connect !
[10:35] <Rookie_> Well, many oldtimers dosent buy hardware that is not supported in linux ... that is a way too - force teh manufactors to port the drivers by not to buy the products
[10:35] <Rookie_> but this is way ot
[10:36] <arrenlex> Rookie_: The problem is that the Linux market is like 0.05%
[10:36] <arrenlex> Rookie_: You don't buy the hardware? They don't care. :)
[10:36] <chalcedony> un_operateur1: pay somebody to code your driver .. help out a starving student
[10:36] <arrenlex> Speaking of which, dammit, I should be studying for exams. -__-
[10:36] <chalcedony> increase the database of drivers available to everyone
[10:37] <fredl> arrenlex: you should ask the question differently. They indeed don't care if Linux users don't buy it. However, they do care if linux users DO buy it.
[10:37] <chalcedony> arrenlex: you are too good at helping :)
[10:37] <frogzoo> arrenlex: linux is like 10-20% of the server space these days
[10:37] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> rather ...get 120 GSoC projects for Ubuntu driver development....
[10:37] <Rookie_> on the servermarket linux and unix is about 23-26% worldwide
[10:37] <un_operateur1> chalcedony, if a student has some hardware that linux doesnt support he must have fancy hardware -- and then i'll find it hard to believe he/she is starving :)
[10:37] <chalcedony> hehehe
[10:38] <fredl> arrenlex, ask 'em "Do you care if you have .05% less sales?'" they'll answer 'nah'. Ask 'em "Do you want to sell 500k extra units?" they'll say 'yes'
[10:38] <un_operateur1> if students need linux drivers -- they can pay whoever-it-is themselves
[10:38] <chalcedony> i need to fix the filenames inside the untarred file ?
[10:38] <arrenlex> frogzoo: Have you noticed the kind of hardware problems people come here with? Video cards, sound cards, webcams... Servers don't have those. They have hard drives, ram, and NICs. Linux supports almost all variations of these.
[10:38] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> did Ubuntu have any GSoC projects this year>
[10:38] <Konnektion> thats so right
[10:38] <Konnektion> i only run linux on my server
[10:38] <youser> someone has to knwo wht Auth is
[10:39] <youser> i cant find much on sites
[10:39] <Konnektion> for a desktop its just easier to use windows *sigh*
[10:39] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ok ... found it thanks to ubotu
[10:39] <_goofy_> does anyone know of a  LVM with a gui
[10:39] <chalcedony> if arrenlex left.. can someone help me?
[10:39] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, well, thats partly because those hardware devices have standard interfaces to them -- also because there is little variance between one vendors product to another
[10:39] <frogzoo> arrenlex: as this is a support channel, it's not surprising people bring their problems here...
[10:39] <chalcedony> :)
[10:39] <arrenlex> chalcedony: There are 832 people. Someone always can. ;) However, what are you having problems with at the moment?
[10:39] <waldo> so i have edgy now... and my "networking" program doesnt allow me to see all available wireless networks... i have to manually enter/know the essid of the wireless network i wanna connect to... did they change "networking" or is my stuff fubared?
[10:39] <arrenlex> I lost the thread of the conversation.
[10:39] <youser> i like gnomes customzation
[10:40] <youser> !ubotu auth
[10:40] <Lynoure> youser: ident
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <youser> ident?
[10:40] <element43> wow ubuntu rocks even with my ati card :)
[10:40] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Exactly. So the people who produce the hardware that doesn't run on Linux have no reason due because of little market share, and people who DO produce devices on Linux produce standard devices they can get anywhere else.
[10:41] <Lynoure> youser: it's most likely in port 113 and ident service, required by many irc networks, and some other things
[10:41] <youser> im trying to figure out what the service "Auth" is and why its running in my active connections
[10:41] <youser> it was running before i got on irc
[10:41] <youser> and ive never saw it run before
[10:41] <Lynoure> youser: I just told you. You can google on ident yourself for the details.
[10:41] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, i dont disagree with that -- infact thats what i've been trying to say
[10:41] <silent-networks> whats a good software that manages wireless networks under ubuntu
[10:41] <un_operateur1> :)
[10:41] <youser> thanks man
[10:41] <youser> or woman whichever you may be
[10:42] <silent-networks> any one ?
[10:42] <un_operateur1> silent-networks, iwconfig
[10:42] <Lynoure> youser: thanks for that correction :)
[10:42] <chalcedony> arrenlex: *hug* np. . i don't think this opened all the files into my regular directory.. i don't know how to fix the file names or move them since they names have those spaces in
[10:42] <zeissc> hi
[10:42] <element43> I know I could google this but I feel I should ask (because i don't care about writing atm) is it possible to mount and read from an NTFS drive?
[10:42] <Rookie_> !wifi
[10:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:42] <youser> lol youre welcome
[10:42] <silent-networks> i need a good gui to select available networks & so on
[10:42] <iwb4e> hi guy
[10:42] <Konnektion> you can mount a NTFS.. but writing is problematic
[10:43] <schlonzo> can anybody pls tell me which codec i have to download for aac playing?
[10:43] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Use nautilus to move them, or use tab completion from the command line -- start typing the first few characters of the filename and then press tab twice to have Linux complete the name.
[10:43] <element43> Konnektion, i don't want to write to it, just read from it
[10:43] <Konnektion> yea then you can mount it
[10:43] <waldo> schlonzo, to get all the codecs u need... try automatix2
[10:43] <frogzoo> !ntfs | element43
[10:43] <Konnektion> but off the top of my head i dont remember the comment
[10:43] <element43> yeah
[10:43] <chalcedony> arrenlex: i'll try
[10:43] <Konnektion> command*
[10:43] <element43> that is what i am asking for heh
[10:43] <schlonzo> i have automatix but aac still don`t work
[10:43] <ubotu> element43: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:44] <un_operateur1> chalcedony, ls -1 | perl -ne '$0=q|"$_"|;s/\s/_/g; `mv $o $_`'     ought to fix a filename
[10:44] <element43> CoolFox31, thanks
[10:44] <element43> bah
[10:44] <element43> stupid auto complete =)
[10:44] <un_operateur1> its a quickly contrived example -- might not work first time around
[10:44] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: ...what the hell does that do?
[10:44] <CharminTheMoose> I have a dell 1450 wireless usb adapter and Using ndiswrapper i can get the adapter to work but i can't when i use wep encryption.the wep is set at 10 character encryption
[10:44] <zch> someone unban me
[10:44] <waldo> so i have edgy now... and my "networking" program doesnt allow me to see all available wireless networks... i have to manually enter/know the essid of the wireless network i wanna connect to... did they change "networking" or is my stuff fubared?
[10:44] <un_operateur1> arrenlex,fixes the space problem with a file
[10:44] <zch> i said the f word ... and got perma banned, gimme a break
[10:44] <gephalt> Hi, I need some help configuring Xinerama with Twinview.
[10:44] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Yes, I got that. How?
[10:44] <Shi> hi
[10:45] <un_operateur1> arren -- part by part ok ...
[10:45] <gephalt> is it possible to view video in full screen on one monitor without getting it 'spilled' into the other?
[10:45] <po0f> schlonzo: faad?
[10:45] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: No, just tell me what it is supposed to end up with.
[10:45] <un_operateur1> $0=q|"$_"|;   -- quotes the original filename
[10:45] <waldo> gephalt,  yes
[10:45] <rage> Weird, are Core 2 Duos 64bit?
[10:45] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: I give this thing the file "I am a file.mp3". What's the output?
[10:45] <gephalt> waldo: so how do I do it- geforce 4
[10:45] <un_operateur1> I_am_a_file.mp3
[10:46] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Is that it?! XD
[10:46] <arrenlex> OMG
[10:46] <un_operateur1> hopefully atleast
[10:46] <waldo> gephalt, i cant remember how i did it before... u have to edit your xorg im pretty sure
[10:46] <un_operateur1> let's try it out in a shell
[10:46] <arrenlex> un_operateur1 : tr " " "_"
[10:46] <arrenlex> xD
[10:46] <gephalt> waldo: brb
[10:46] <CharminTheMoose> I have a dell 1450 wireless usb adapter and Using ndiswrapper i can get the adapter to work but i can't when i use wep encryption.the wep is set at 10 character encryption
[10:47] <waldo> anyone know why my atheros card worked with airodump and all related apps under dapper... but under edgy it wont?
[10:47] <waldo> it wont go into monitor mode now
[10:47] <malt> does my ftp ask anyone for a login or does it work at all? ftp://test:test@m4lt.com
[10:48] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, form a complete expression with tr :) xX
[10:48] <zch> someone unban me, latest ban added, kthx
[10:49] <rage> malt: I get a connection, but the user/pass doesnt work
[10:49] <CharminTheMoose> zch,if you're banned why can you talk?
[10:49] <youser> lmao
[10:49] <zch> because i joined via proxy
[10:49] <youser> permabanned even
[10:49] <CharminTheMoose> ouch
[10:49] <youser> ive never been banned andive swore in here
[10:49] <frogzoo> oh dear...
[10:49] <un_operateur1>  perl -ne 'chomp; $o="\"$_\""; s/ /_/g; `mv $o $_`;'    << a bit better
[10:50] <youser> but i didnt badmouth kubuntu
[10:50] <po0f> un_operateur1: If you call Perl better...  ;)
[10:50] <arrenlex> (pwned)
[10:50] <un_operateur1> perl is better :)
[10:50] <Temp_pennywise> i accidently removed madwifi from from /usr/src/linux-headers/drivers. How do i reinstall it?
[10:50] <youser> nothing beats murrine
[10:51] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: How did you install it?
[10:51] <hcz> ok so i said the f word after wasting 3 hours with stupid kubuntu bugs and i get perma banned, and now someone is getting of on banning me, fine that's really helpfull
[10:52] <youser> yeah that does suck
[10:52] <hcz> i mean you cant really ban me, i can come here again and again, but i wont bother.. so feel free to reban me again
[10:52] <youser> i once tried forliek 8 hours to get beryl towork
[10:52] <frogzoo> hcz: I think the usual protocol is to ask for the unban from #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:52] <thamwa> hey,how can i check my cpu infor in ubuntu (am a new ubuntu user)
[10:52] <youser> only to find out  my comp couldnt run it
[10:52] <arrenlex> un_operateur1 : you're right, it didn't turn out much better x_x
[10:52] <arrenlex> ls | while read a ; do mv "$a" $(echo $a | tr " " "_") ; done
[10:53] <un_operateur1> :)
[10:53] <po0f> thamwa: `cat /proc/cpuinfo` from a terminal.
[10:53] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, i donr remember.... ; p
[10:53] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: But I think it looks a bit better than your monstrosity. xD
[10:53] <waldo> anyone know why my atheros card worked with airodump and all related apps under dapper... but under edgy it wont go into monitor mode... what gives?
[10:53] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: Did you have to apt-get anything to install it?  Just reinstall it then.
[10:54] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, my monstrosity is faster than yours :)
[10:54] <frogzoo> waldo: just a guess - did you upgrade from dapper, or fresh install?
[10:54] <waldo> fresh
[10:54] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Yes but mine doesn't look like a dollar sign factory exploded.
[10:54] <nevron> in which channel can i learn howto configure my dual screens?
[10:54] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, Thats what i think. But i donr remember what I installed...
[10:54] <apokryphos> !xinerama | nevron
[10:54] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, yea, it's just a different dialect of line noise :)
[10:54] <ubotu> nevron: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[10:54] <christiane> Hello. When I boot the script /etc/init.d/cryptdisks finishes with an error "wrong passphrase" but it doesn't ask me. When I later do the same from runlevel 2 it works. Any idea?
[10:55] <thamwa> po0f,thanx
[10:55] <nevron> no i shouldnt use xinerema since it disables 3d accelleration
[10:55] <BlackHawk> hi
[10:55] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, mine actually uses one dollar less than yours :)
[10:55] <po0f> thamwa: Did you find what you were looking for?
[10:55] <thamwa> yap
[10:55] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: apt-cache search madwifi
[10:55] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: At the expense of like five slashes.
[10:55] <danniy> can someone tell me how to edit the/etc/fstab  to mount a win partition?
[10:56] <nevron> any suggestions?
[10:56] <arrenlex> Exactly five slashes! *has estimating skillz*
[10:56] <frogzoo> danniy: I think you've been given the link about 5 times now - time to do a little reading
[10:56] <apokryphos> ubotu: fstab | danniy
[10:56] <ubotu> danniy: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:56] <nevron> apokryphos any other suggestions for me ?
[10:57] <danniy> that didnt work
[10:57] <danniy> sorry, but it didnt
[10:57] <apokryphos> danniy: if youd id it right, it would work
[10:57] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, seems like i installed it from linux-restricted-modules. How do I uninstall it and reinstall it?
[10:57] <CharminTheMoose> I have a dell 1450 wireless usb adapter and Using ndiswrapper i can get the adapter to work but i can't when i use wep encryption.the wep is set at 10 character encryption
[10:57] <apokryphos> nevron: I don't know of any, sorry.
[10:58] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: Probably linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`.
[10:58] <apokryphos> danniy: what's your entry in fstab?
[10:58] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: Just try reinstalling it.
[10:58] <waldo> so no one knows why a wireless card will go into monitor mode in dapper and not in edgy (clean install)?
[10:59] <_goofy_> does anyone know how to add a disk to a LVG LV
[10:59] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, with apt-get installl linux-restrcited-modules?
[10:59] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: Or aptitude.  ;)
[10:59] <willskills> guys - having kernel probs with Nvidia cards?
[11:00] <nevron> i have figured it is impossible to run an ati 9800 pro in big desktop mode :D
[11:00] <po0f> willskills: Mine's working fine...
[11:00] <willskills> since that update, X works for me, just 3D (openGL) doesnt
[11:00] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, can you write the thing i should write in terminal please? ;p im not so good
[11:00] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[11:01] <willskills> po0f, can I pm you ?
[11:01] <knikkern> join #java
[11:01] <po0f> willskills: What's the problem?
[11:01] <knikkern> whosp
[11:01] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, thx, gonna try it now
[11:02] <willskills> po0f, trying to run WoW through WINE, up until the recent update; now I get this; fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x7c560000, 1, (nil)) not fully implemented
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:ntdll:NtPowerInformation Unimplemented NtPowerInformation action: 11
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x7c560000, 0, (nil)) not fully implemented
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x7fbbede4,0x00000000), stub!
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x7fbbf34c,0x00000000), stub!
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x7fbbf5ec,0x00000000), stub!
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x7fbbf5ec,0x00000000), stub!
[11:02] <dromer> hmmmv I want mt-daapd to be able to send through port 3689 but how do I know if this is working ?
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x7fbbf554,0x00000000), stub!
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x7fbbf540,0x00000000), stub!
[11:02] <nevron> anybody using ati fglrx with dual screens?
[11:02] <po0f> Hehe..  whoops.
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option 45 STUB
[11:02] <dromer> !pastebin | willskills
[11:02] <willskills> fixme:system:SystemParametersInfoW Unimplemented action: 113 (SPI_SETMOUSESPEED)fixme:system:SystemParametersInfoW Unimplemented action: 113 (SPI_SETMOUSESPEED)fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x7fbbde24,0x00000000), stub!
[11:02] <ubotu> willskills: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:02] <po0f> willskills: Don't paste please.
[11:02] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, didnt work
[11:03] <dromer> hmmmv I want mt-daapd to be able to send through port 3689 but how do I know if it can ?
[11:03] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: Error message?
[11:03] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: Or was it just the wrong package?
[11:03] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, the rest of that package is there so it wont install
[11:03] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[11:03] <Temp_pennywise> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:04] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: sudo aptitude reinstall linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`?
[11:04] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, gonan try it
[11:04] <wid> Hi
[11:05] <arrenlex> !hi | wid
[11:05] <ubotu> wid: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:05] <CharminTheMoose> I have a dell 1450 wireless usb adapter and Using ndiswrapper i can get the adapter to work but i can't when i use wep encryption.the wep is set at 10 character encryption
[11:06] <ski-worklap> is there a way to tell gnome "when i alt-tab, i want to go thru applications on all of my virtual desktops" ?
[11:06] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, that did it :) but my graphics driver will be removed right?
[11:06] <wid> m new here...so
[11:06] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: It shouldn't be...
[11:07] <wid> my mail is yo_waddup@hotmail. ok gtg cya
[11:07] <arrenlex> ...wtf was that? o_O
[11:07] <po0f> hax
[11:07] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, ok :)
[11:08] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: How did you install your video card drivers?
[11:08] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, had to download from nvidia
[11:08] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: Let me guess NVIDIA beta drivers?
[11:08] <willskills> ah right, so the beta drivers should be ok?
[11:08] <gephalt> arrenlex: you mean wid?
[11:08] <__ghost__> ciao
[11:08] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, dont think they are beta...
[11:08] <arrenlex> gephalt: Yeah.
[11:09] <willskills> which driver you got Temp_pennywise ?
[11:09] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: 96xx?
[11:09] <arrenlex> gephalt: Hi, here's my email, bye. <--- o__O
[11:09] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, 9631
[11:09] <gephalt> yeah- lol- cause he's new.
[11:09] <dromer> hmm, I want mt-daapd to be able to use port 3689 but how do I know if that port is open ?
[11:09] <ski-worklap> telnet localhost 3689
[11:10] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: AFAIK, >96xx are beta, but I have been proven wrong on many an occasion.  ;)
[11:10] <ski-worklap> if you can type at it or it says something to you, it's being used
[11:10] <dromer> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[11:10] <ski-worklap> then it's open
[11:10] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, haha ok ;p Should i download it and reinstall ti ?
[11:10] <ski-worklap> you're freaking welcome.
[11:10] <gephalt> How does jsp compare to server-side languages like php/asp?
[11:10] <dromer> ski-worklap: and when it's closed ?
[11:11] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: I think you should be fine.
[11:11] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, ok :)
[11:11] <ski-worklap> sorry i meant open like "available", not open like "in use"
[11:11] <Temp_pennywise> brb
[11:11] <christiane> Is there anything missing in runlevel 1 (Ubuntu 6.10) that prevents cryptsetup to ask for a passphrase in the shell?
[11:11] <ski-worklap> connection refused means nothing is listening there, so you are free to use it for something else (ie its open), even tho any connection there is immediately closed
[11:12] <ski-worklap> that is a weird bit of terminology isn't it.
[11:12] <dromer> haha yeah :P
[11:12] <po0f> Or the port is just blocked.
[11:13] <dromer> how can I open it ?
[11:13] <po0f> dromer: It should be available, I was just adding my 2 cents.
[11:13] <dromer> ok .. hmm
[11:13] <dromer> I can't find the server though
[11:14] <dromer> maybe cause I'm on the localhost atm
[11:14] <ski-worklap> uhh
[11:14] <ski-worklap> you're always "on the localhost
[11:15] <dromer> yes ok, but compared to the server
[11:15] <ski-worklap> on the srver, 127.0.0.1 is the server
[11:15] <dromer> when on a different pc I'm not on the servers host
[11:15] <ski-worklap> on your machine, 127.0.0.1 is your machine
[11:15] <feihung> Help, nothing after splash screen
[11:15] <dromer> I want the daap-server to share music with another pc
[11:15] <ski-worklap> feihung, you shouldn't have splashed the screen then
[11:16] <arrenlex> Well, goodnight, all.
[11:16] <christiane> When boot process has reached runlevel 2 executing `/etc/init.d/cryptdisks start` works and it asks for a passphrase. Why is the passphrase dialog not shown on bootup? (There's just the error msg "wrong passphrase".)
[11:17] <TheKittenEater> Anyone awake? Heh. I need a little help here, I'm really new to Ubuntu and Linux in general. I just installed 6.06, but there's a little problem. My laptop has a 15" Widescreen, but the only resolution options are for 5:4 Monitors. I'd like to use 1280x800, any ideas?
[11:17] <feihung> I just remove G-Force 5200 card and use on board intel vga card and I have changed i810 with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg how I can login
[11:17] <ski-worklap> TheKittenEater, no, we are all sleeptyping.
[11:17] <ski-worklap> TheKittenEater, try xorgcfg?
[11:18] <Nippoo> feihung: it should show a graphical login
[11:18] <preaction> TheKittenEater, activate universe repositories and install 915resolution
[11:18] <IntToStr> Anybody have a few mins to help a desperate newbie?
[11:18] <Nippoo> IntToStr:
[11:18] <Nippoo> !ask
[11:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:18] <IntToStr> lol, well, i just installed amd64 6.1
[11:18] <feihung> Nippoo yes, but it hang after splash screen sorry I am newbie can not check what is wrong
[11:18] <IntToStr> whenever i boot i get the grawsyacale (i know, reported bug already)
[11:19] <ski-worklap> IntToStr, is this a server or workstation?
[11:19] <TheKittenEater> Errr... Do you guys know of any tutorials for that? I'm really new to Linux, not familiar with any commands or anything...
[11:19] <frogzoo> TheKittenEater: 1280x800 works
[11:19] <frogzoo> !fixres | TheKittenEater
[11:19] <ubotu> TheKittenEater: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:19] <feihung> Any Idea?
[11:19] <IntToStr> but it never actually boots i get a "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[11:19] <TheKittenEater> Thanks a ton!
[11:19] <christiane> TheKittenEater: Which card do you have?
[11:19] <TheKittenEater> ATi Radeon X1400
[11:19] <ski-worklap> IntToStr, that's a new one on me
[11:20] <ski-worklap> when i tried 64 bit ubuntu i just couldn't get firefox running with the plugins i wanted and said screw it
[11:20] <christiane> TheKittenEater: Then you need two things:
[11:20] <IntToStr> and it is saying this after booting to the busybox built in shell
[11:20] <IntToStr> i tried installing 6.06, i386, same error
[11:20] <christiane> TheKittenEater: Plenty of time (and a kitten for throwing against a wall sometimes)
[11:20] <ski-worklap> IntToStr, what hardware?
[11:21] <IntToStr> i am using a 150 GB ext3 file system, set as "/"
[11:21] <feihung> ski-worklap , how I remove splash screen ?
[11:21] <IntToStr> amd Athlon 64 x2 3800+
[11:21] <IntToStr> 1 GB RAM
[11:21] <ski-worklap> feihung, /boot/grub/menu.list
[11:21] <ski-worklap> remove quiet option
[11:21] <christiane> TheKittenEater: 1st edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <IntToStr> BFG geforce 7300 GS OC
[11:21] <christiane> TheKittenEater: Do you know how to do that?
[11:21] <IntToStr> Foxconn 6100 m2ma
[11:21] <Dwienix> fgggggh
[11:21] <ski-worklap> IntToStr, that's odd. ship it to me and i'll fix it :)
[11:21] <TheKittenEater> No, sorry :\
[11:21] <nothlit> Anyone have experience with ext3 corruption? I'm trying to delete/restore a file that cannot be modified or read in any way with root privileges.
[11:22] <ski-worklap> nothlit, man chflags
[11:22] <christiane> TheKittenEater: Are you on Ubuntu (Gnome) or Kubuntu (KDE)?
[11:22] <IntToStr> oh ya, it gave me this msg in 6.06, while trying to mount root
[11:22] <ski-worklap> nothlit, nevermind that, i'm thinking freebsd
[11:22] <TheKittenEater> Ubuntu 6.06
[11:23] <nothlit> ski-worklap, do you know whether debugfs is supposed to be used live or mounted ro? or from a livecd?
[11:23] <christiane> TheKittenEater: So try to open a terminal (there must be a menu entry)
[11:23] <ski-worklap> IntToStr, did you do an upgrade or a fresh install?
[11:23] <gephalt> I have a problem using twinview (nvidia geforce4 - on AGP)- when I try to watch a movie in full-screen it spills into my monitor.
[11:23] <ski-worklap> nothlit, no idea
[11:23] <gephalt> how can I fix it?
[11:23] <TheKittenEater> Got it.
[11:23] <IntToStr> fresh install
[11:23] <gephalt> i've already edited the config file according to the online guides- and its not helping
[11:24] <christiane> TheKittenEater: Type `sudo -s` (without the ``)
[11:24] <javiolo> hi
[11:24] <TheKittenEater> Yup.
[11:24] <christiane> TheKittenEater: and enter your pw.
[11:24] <wildchild> I was trying to configure Djsmart, and somehow I didn't have all packages.. so I use aptitude <package that error said it's missing>|grep dev. And now when error gave me libdjconsole I can't find it... how can I procceed this?
[11:24] <javiolo> just installed ubuntu server, i get an error Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060 c0100295 00000294
[11:24] <TheKittenEater> Yup
[11:24] <christiane> TheKittenEater: Now your command prompt should have changed from "$" to "#".
[11:24] <gephalt> ANyone? here's how the config file looks like: http://rafb.net/paste/results/hmhEaO58.html
[11:25] <feihung> Help, I only can login with gnome-failsafe session how I check the problem
[11:25] <ken_> Hello people, i need to edit the xorg.conf file to stop the NVIDIA SPLASH SCREEN from displaying. But when i use the command "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", i get a message in terminal saying "ken@ken-desktop:~$ gksudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:25] <christiane> TheKittenEater: `nano /etc/apt/sources.list`
[11:25] <ken_> (gedit:6012): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[11:25] <ken_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.". And gedit opens with a blank xorg.conf file. Please help me.
[11:25] <TheKittenEater> Yup.
[11:25] <apokryphos> ken_: faulty gksudo. Use plain sudo for *just* this instance.
[11:26] <ken_> apokryphos: what is faulty gksudo? And why does it happen only for me?
[11:26] <apokryphos> ken_: it doesn' thappen only for you. It happens for many
[11:26] <apokryphos> and it means that there's a bug in gksudo
[11:26] <ken_> apokryphos: And what are the disadvantages of using "sudo" in every graphical program?
[11:26] <apokryphos> ken_: no, just for this instance I said: just gedit
[11:27] <apokryphos> I don't think it does any harm to gedit, but with other programs you can get a lot of problems
[11:27] <IntToStr> is there any command in shell, that i can use to check problem?
[11:27] <ken_> apokryphos: Thank you for your timely elp.
[11:27] <ken_> *help
[11:27] <christiane> TheKittenEater: look for a line taht ends with "universe" and remove the "#" at the beginning
[11:27] <ken_> Good Bye! And keep the community going. Thank you
[11:28] <nothlit> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[11:28] <feihung> how I check problem when start session ?
[11:29] <RR> Hi. Is there a simple way to set up software raid after installation? / and home are on sdd - I'd like to set sda and sdb (currently empty) up as raid0. I'm using ubuntu 6.06.
[11:29] <dark-shadow> any one got an idea if installing mono will run IE6?
[11:29] <christiane> TheKittenEater: Stop. While you were searching I looked it up and found that editing of sources.list  is not nesseccary for ATI.
[11:30] <nothlit> !lvm
[11:30] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:30] <nothlit> !wine | dark-shadow
[11:30] <ubotu> dark-shadow: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:30] <nothlit> dark-shadow, google ies4linux
[11:30] <dark-shadow> thx
[11:31] <christiane> TheKittenEater: So let's interrup step 1 by pressing F2 for closing the editor nano and say "No" to saving any changes.
[11:31] <feihung> how I check problem when start session ?
[11:33] <markeib> hello! at startup i always have to do sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia because it loads the wrong kernel module or something
[11:33] <markeib> how can i avoid that? :P
[11:34] <nothlit> markeib, fix your xorg.conf?
[11:34] <po0f> markeib: Remove the bad one?
[11:34] <markeib> it's in there?
[11:34] <kane77> is there a way to get a text output for applets (like the weather). I would like to store it into a text file...
[11:34] <dark-shadow> nothlit ur the best Bro :D
[11:34] <dark-shadow> ive been looking for a solution for IE under linux for like quite a while...
[11:34] <dark-shadow> thx
[11:34] <nothlit> dark-shadow, lol its been out there for a while :)
[11:34] <dark-shadow> well hasnt been through my way though
[11:35] <nothlit> kane77, modify the source?
[11:35] <kane77> nothlit, well yes, thats a way...
[11:35] <markeib> po0f: where can i change that in xorg.conf?
[11:35] <kane77> just to find out where they are.. :D
[11:36] <nothlit> kane77, the applets (whatever they may come from) weren't designed so you could extract text lol
[11:36] <dark-shadow> nothlit,  u know the Intel Wireless network manger on windows ?
[11:36] <nothlit> dark-shadow, yes
[11:36] <nothlit> dark-shadow, but i have no experience with wireless in linux
[11:36] <dark-shadow> whats some thing like it on ubuntu/linux
[11:36] <dark-shadow> lol
[11:37] <willskills> dark-shadow, look in the Add/Remove (Synaptic Package Manager)
[11:37] <willskills> there are lots of wireless utils in there
[11:37] <TehBigToe> guys
[11:37] <dark-shadow> k
[11:37] <TehBigToe> I have 3 questions
[11:37] <TehBigToe> a)
[11:37] <nothlit> !wireless | dark-shadow
[11:37] <ubotu> dark-shadow: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:37] <TehBigToe> Is there a linux alternative to MS Publisher?
[11:37] <dark-shadow> nothlit,  looked there,
[11:37] <willskills> !nvidia | willskills
[11:37] <poncio> =] 
[11:37] <ubotu> willskills: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:37] <dark-shadow> nothing interesting
[11:38] <frogzoo> !appdb | TehBigToe
[11:38] <ubotu> TehBigToe: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:38] <nothlit> What does publisher do
[11:38] <TheKittenEater> Just installed Ubuntu on my 2nd partition... but Windows isn't showing up in GRUB. Any suggestions?
[11:38] <TehBigToe> thanks frogzoo
[11:38] <nothlit> !grub | TheKittenEater
[11:38] <ubotu> TheKittenEater: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:39] <TehBigToe> nothlit, it's like quark, it makes flyers, posters, leaflets and such
[11:39] <TheKittenEater> Thanks.
[11:39] <TehBigToe> ok, my second question
[11:39] <nothlit> TehBigToe, did you look through all the open office apps?
[11:39] <TehBigToe> mhm
[11:39] <TehBigToe> they're not as advanced though
[11:40] <TehBigToe> (How) can I change the ubuntu startup screen? I mean the one that has the "Mounting root filesystem... [ok] " on
[11:40] <nothlit> !alternatives | TehBigToe
[11:40] <ubotu> TehBigToe: To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[11:41] <slicky> !final cut
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about final cut - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <iskor> selamlar
[11:42] <christiane> TheKittenEater: Already finished installing ATI driver?
[11:42] <IntToStr> re-installing now, what should i have my main partition set up as? for like the file systems etc....
[11:43] <IntToStr> should i have it as a bootable flag?
[11:43] <nothlit> IntToStr, if you don't know, the ubuntu installer can automatically do it for you
[11:43] <IntToStr> how?
[11:43] <nothlit> Intangir, go through the installation carefully, you'll see it if you're using the livecd
[11:44] <jpjacobs> IntToStr, yes you need a bootable flag on the partition where /boot resides. Also it is very usefull to have a seperate /home partition
[11:44] <IntToStr> ok, so set up a /boot, a /home?
[11:44] <christiane> TheKittenEater: I found this wiki that should help you: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[11:45] <jpjacobs> no, you prolly don't want a seperate /boot
[11:45] <disident> hi all
[11:45] <jpjacobs> it's just the partition where it will be has to be bootable, this can be /
[11:45] <disident> Why my wifi is broken under edgy? (ipw2200)
[11:45] <stockfisch> can anyone tell me why mplayer does not play fullscreen as soon as opengl is enabled?
[11:45] <nothlit> !elaborate | disident
[11:45] <ubotu> disident: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[11:45] <disident> ^^
[11:45] <jpjacobs> IntToStr, so /, /home and swap will do
[11:46] <nothlit> stockfisch, from what I know, the xv video out is best, but I
[11:46] <IntToStr> ok, and the / with a bootable flag?
[11:46] <jpjacobs> indeed
[11:46] <disident> ok I use NetworkManager I can see wifi networks but no association possible
[11:46] <nothlit> stockfisch, 'm not sure why you're having problems with it
[11:46] <IntToStr> ok, thats what might have bee wrong with my last one
[11:46] <stockfisch> what do you mean with xv vid out?
[11:47] <TehBigToe> oh guys, my third question
[11:47] <disident> I have modify my /etc/network/interface with auto
[11:47] <kane77> is there any text editor as good as pspad?? I tried many but nothing is so good...
[11:47] <humphrey> i have green screen and stripes with feisty herd1 install(in setup xorg routine) nvidia 5200, i think there is a bug that says took vesa instead of nv or nvidia
[11:47] <disident> but no way it's doesn't work
[11:47] <TehBigToe> I forgot how to enable ubuntu to use 1280x1024
[11:47] <jpjacobs> IntToStr, and if you want to use suspend2disk, be sure your swapspace is a good deal larger then your ram
[11:47] <TehBigToe> I kind of know how to do it
[11:47] <nothlit> !fixres | TehBigToe
[11:47] <ubotu> TehBigToe: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:47] <TehBigToe> thanks
[11:47] <nothlit> humphrey, #ubuntu+1
[11:48] <humphrey> nothlit: ok, thanks
[11:50] <disident> no fix for ipw2200 wifi problems?
[11:50] <IntToStr> one more q, any way to play WoW in ubuntu? or will i have to dual boot with xp to play it?
[11:51] <po0f> IntToStr: Some people use Wine.
[11:51] <IntToStr> and that should play WW?
[11:51] <IntToStr> WoW***
[11:51] <nothlit> !wine | IntToStr
[11:51] <ubotu> IntToStr: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:51] <po0f> IntToStr: I don't play WoW.  ;P
[11:52] <nothlit> !cedega | IntToStr
[11:52] <ubotu> IntToStr: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:52] <dark-shadow> nothlit,  are u fimiliar with kismet ?
[11:52] <nothlit> dark-shadow, no
[11:52] <dark-shadow> k
[11:53] <IntToStr> is there a wine out yet for amd64?
[11:54] <nothlit> IntToStr, there should be, if there isn't you could always compile it
[11:55] <IntToStr> using the winelib?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> iirc wine for 64 has to be compilied
[11:55] <po0f> IntToStr: There are many HOWTOs on the forums dealing with Wine, WoW, and AMD64.
[11:56] <IntToStr> ok, thank you very much.
[11:57] <Stefros> Hello
[11:58] <lydgate> hmm, how does ubuntu desktop control its alsa settings? i like it better than my install
[11:59] <dromer> so, I'm really having trouble getting my daap-server to be recognized by zeroconf, anyone any pointers ?
[11:59] <Stefros> Is anybody here ?
[11:59] <Stefros> I see no one !!!
[11:59] <Stefros> hello multichil
[12:00] <po0f> ?
[12:00] <Stefros> I having trouble with my Amilo M  7400
[12:00] <Stefros> Cannot use the multimedia keys
[12:00] <poncio> lol
[12:00] <Stefros> to enable/disable WLAN access
[12:00] <Infeliz> xbindkeys
[12:01] <Stefros> H E L P
[12:01] <Infeliz> use THE google?
[12:01] <Stefros> google cannot help me
[12:01] <Infeliz> why
[12:01] <Stefros> there is a solution with acerHK driver
[12:01] <Stefros> but the link is no longer ok
[12:02] <Stefros> I have tried to download it from many pages, but cannot get it
[12:02] <Stefros> its very difficult if you are a beginner in Linux
[12:03] <Stefros> sometimes I want to go back to Win XP
[12:03] <Stefros> ;)
[12:03] <po0f> Stefros: Linux is not for everybody.
[12:03] <Infeliz> http://www.debianforum.de/wiki/?page=Debian+GNU%2FLinux+on+Fujitsu+Siemens+Amilo+M+7400
[12:03] <Curs0r> does anyone in here know about xdmcp?
[12:03] <Infeliz> this?
[12:03] <nothlit> !laptop
[12:03] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[12:04] <nothlit> !anyone | Curs0r
[12:04] <ubotu> Curs0r: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:04] <po0f> Infeliz: Repost that link.
[12:05] <Stefros> How can I activate my Hotkeys button to use it with my Amilo M 7400 under Ubuntu 6.10
[12:05] <poncio> halo zeby w ubuntu cos instalowac to co trzeba zrobic
[12:05] <|markie|> are there any xen users around ?
[12:05] <po0f> Stefros: http://www.debianforum.de/wiki/?page=Debian+GNU%2FLinux+on+Fujitsu+Siemens+Amilo+M+7400
[12:05] <gephalt> i am trying to configure an nvidia geforce4 card with twinview to use xinerama correctly
[12:05] <nothlit> !anybody | |markie|
[12:05] <ubotu> |markie|: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:05] <Curs0r> very well mr. terse bot when i make a remote connection to my machine with an xdmcp client applications that use gtk take a long time to load but they work fine after, other apps take no meaningful time to load
[12:05] <gephalt> Problem is when using full screen, it spills into the second screen
[12:06] <gephalt> nothlit: there. i've stated the problem first- we'll see how it works :P
[12:06] <lydgate> how exactly is ubuntu desktop's alsa configured by default? it seems it uses esd? dmix? what? i want to duplicate this on my install
[12:06] <nothlit> Curs0r, well the gtk libs have to load
[12:06] <Infeliz> lots of questions but no answers
[12:06] <|markie|> nothlit: amen to that
[12:06] <gephalt> yeah- all duds in here right now :D
[12:06] <Poncio> pomoze ktos?
[12:07] <Curs0r> does it have to load them for each app, and every time an app loads?
[12:07] <nothlit> gephalt, spill into, or uses both lol
[12:07] <|markie|> i am trying to install ubuntu by using Xen. Xen is up and running, only i have no idea how to create a VM
[12:07] <nothlit> Curs0r, should just have to load it once
[12:07] <nothlit> !xen
[12:07] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[12:07] <Curs0r> not the case
[12:07] <nothlit> |markie|, the xen website has a good howto
[12:07] <gephalt> gephalt: yeah- `spill`'s a bit dramatic, i guess. IT uses half of both screens-
[12:08] <Curs0r> each app that uses gtk takes the same amount of time to load even after one has already been loaded
[12:08] <nothlit> Curs0r, you said they work fine after
[12:08] <gephalt> i thought i could live with resizing it- just turns out that when i try to do that- the movie falls is not in proportion
[12:08] <po0f> Curs0r: Can you prove that a lib is being reloaded?
[12:08] <nothlit> Curs0r, and what are the other apps?
[12:08] <Wooksta> is there a tutorial somewhere for getting flash to work on 64bit edgy?
[12:08] <nothlit> gephalt, most video players can  lock aspect ratios
[12:08] <|markie|> nothlit: is it a "must" to have a graphical interface running before using xen at all ?
[12:08] <Curs0r> well if your answer is that the libs have to load isn't that the conclusiont hat follows?
[12:09] <nothlit> |markie|, I don't think so
[12:09] <spitz> Hi all
[12:09] <nothlit> Curs0r, could you please elaborate on your situation, and include names of specific apps?
[12:09] <gephalt> nothlit: that doesnt sound right- lemme search the ubuntuforums first.
[12:10] <po0f> Curs0r: XDMCP is X over network right?  And all the rpocessing is being done on one box right?  Is the box doing anything else besides being a remote X server?
[12:10] <|markie|> nothlit: i tried to find the website of xen, only i think i found the wrong one
[12:10] <Curs0r> monodevelop, gnibbles, gaim, gedit, gnome-terminal, apps that use gtk, get the picture?
[12:10] <unfun> Do I have to uninstall gnome before installing xubuntu-desktop?
[12:10] <po0f> unfun: No.
[12:10] <nothlit> Curs0r, what are the 'other' apps that load so fast
[12:10] <unfun> thank you
[12:11] <gephalt> Curs0r: anyone noticed how unstable oowriter is? especially when you try to insert images into a document?
[12:11] <nothlit> Curs0r, and after the first gtk app loads... is it all smooth sailing from here? or do you have the same issue after logout? what?
[12:11] <po0f> unfun: Use aptitude to install xubuntu-desktop so you can uninstall it all at once should you choose to do so.
[12:11] <Curs0r> foobillard, gl-117, openoffice, gimp all run very quickly and smoothly
[12:11] <spitz> When I trie to compile a kernel ( for getting my X1300 to work properly) I enter this "sudo cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config && sudo make oldconfig && sudo make xconfig" I get this error
[12:12] <Curs0r> nothlit, i have to wait the same amount of time for every gtk app
[12:12] <spitz> scripts/kconfig/qconf arch/i386/Kconfig
[12:12] <spitz> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:12] <spitz>   Major opcode:  148
[12:12] <spitz>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:12] <spitz>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:12] <spitz> Failed to open device
[12:12] <Curs0r> roughly 2.5-3 minutes
[12:12] <spitz> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:12] <spitz>   Major opcode:  148
[12:12] <spitz>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:12] <nothlit> gephalt, you said resizing takes the movie out of proportion, well most video plays can manually set an aspect ratio
[12:12] <gephalt> yeah, i use kaffeine- so let me try and see.
[12:13] <nothlit> Curs0r, oh, i'm sorry I can't remember the solution to that problem
[12:13] <nothlit> Curs0r, you can try googling, or i'm sure someone will know it offhand here if you wait long enough
[12:14] <Curs0r> it's cool that opengl works via xdmcp though
[12:14] <dark-shadow> what shall i  install using "apt-get" to get mp3, dvd  & mp* to work
[12:14] <thepianoguy> Debian has subversion-1.4.2 in both unstable and testing, Feisty still has 1.3.2
[12:15] <thepianoguy> could someone synchronise this package?
[12:15] <po0f> thepianoguy: You're asking the wrong people.
[12:16] <nothlit> ! restricted | dark-shadow
[12:16] <ubotu> dark-shadow: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:16] <dark-shadow> k
[12:17] <nothlit> Is feisty upstream locked yet?
[12:18] <po0f> nothlit: More than 4 months away I would think no.
[12:20] <nothlit> Interesting, they merged the feature and upstream freezes
[12:21] <thepianoguy> I wonder how more stable Feisty could be from Debian Etch :)
[12:22] <thepianoguy> (Debian stable is known to always be a *very* stable, but obsolete distribution)
[12:23] <rausb0> that's why it is also known as debian stale :)
[12:24] <Infeliz> eat ur head
[12:27] <LinTux> how do I install a Belkin F5D7000 Wifi NIC?
[12:28] <Nippoo> join #debian
[12:28] <Nippoo> gah
[12:28] <Nippoo> forgot teh slash =)
[12:31] <nothlit> Nippoo, btw #debian 'moved' to OFTC
[12:31] <Nippoo> nothlit: m?
[12:31] <Nippoo> #oftc?
[12:32] <nothlit> Nippoo, no the irc network
[12:32] <Nippoo> oh
[12:32] <nevron> how can i logon as root
[12:32] <Nippoo> ok
[12:32] <nothlit> !sudo | nevron
[12:32] <ubotu> nevron: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:32] <Temp_pennywise> Ive accidenly remvoed madwifi from /usr/src/linux-headers/drivers
[12:32] <Temp_pennywise> how do i get it back
[12:32] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, reinstall the header
[12:32] <nothlit> s
[12:32] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, ive already done that
[12:32] <Temp_pennywise> didnt work
[12:32] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, purge and reinstall them
[12:33] <wasp_ems> hello..does anyone know how i can remove from the dock the two side white bars it has?
[12:33] <christopherl> who's owner root, I want to install on a folder but have not permission, how do I change that?
[12:33] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, how? ;p
[12:33] <nothlit> wasabi_, you can't really unless you do some hacking, thats how gnome-panel is
[12:33] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, sudo aptitude purge headerspackage && sudo aptitude install headerspackage
[12:34] <wasp_ems> notbbt, is the hacking easy to do?
[12:34] <Wooksta> does anyone know of any tutorials for installing 32bit firefox / flash etc on 64bit edgy?
[12:34] <nothlit> wasp_ems, i wouldn't know, haven't done it
[12:34] <nothlit> Wooksta, look on ubuntuforums and the wiki
[12:34] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, ok, thx :)
[12:34] <wasp_ems> nothlit, ok..thanx allot
[12:35] <nothlit> wasp_ems, you mean thegrabby things right? not the arrows to hide it?
[12:35] <wasp_ems> nothlit, yes
[12:35] <wasp_ems> nothlit, the grappby bitts
[12:35] <nothlit> yeah, not possible from the config dialog
[12:35] <wasp_ems> ok
[12:35] <wasp_ems> thanx
[12:36] <Klony> german or english herre?
[12:36] <nevron> nothlt so if i write "gksodu fglrx.ko" it should leave me with fglrx.konf in the gui is it right
[12:36] <MasterLexx> eng
[12:36] <Klony> can somebody help me
[12:36] <po0f> nevron: What are you trying to do?
[12:36] <Klony> with suse an ubuntu
[12:37] <Klony> i have a suse pc and a ubuntu pc
[12:37] <Klony> now i will files exchange
[12:37] <nevron> i am trying to let fglrxkonf to owerwrite my xorg.conf so that i can have a dual head with big desktop setting
[12:37] <Klony> but i don't know how can i do
[12:38] <po0f> nevron: Is it a GUI or console app?
[12:38] <dark-shadow> any one got a clue on how to apply 3d desktop switching to ubuntu 6.10
[12:38] <nothlit> !3ddesktop
[12:38] <nothlit> !beryl
[12:38] <dark-shadow> any one got a clue on how to apply 3d desktop switching to ubuntu 6.10
[12:38] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[12:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:38] <nevron> poof it has a gui but when i run it from the gui
[12:39] <nothlit> If you're asking what you say you're asking, use 3ddesktop, if you're asking what i think you're asking, use beryl
[12:39] <dark-shadow> nothlit, how do i install it ?
[12:39] <nevron> it somehow doesnt overwrite my xorg
[12:39] <po0f> nevron: `gksu appname` then.
[12:39] <nothlit> !synaptic
[12:39] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:39] <Klony> !samba
[12:39] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:39] <Klony> !ubuntu
[12:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:39] <nothlit> dark-shadow, if you use beryl, use the guides at wiki.beryl-project.org
[12:39] <nothlit> dark-shadow, do not just try and install and use it on your own
[12:39] <nevron> ok but no luck here it never overwrites when i restart x i see that all my settings are back to the old conf
[12:40] <nothlit> nevron, that means you didn't save the changes
[12:40] <nevron> i click apply
[12:40] <nevron> and then close the app
[12:40] <Klony> !help
[12:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:40] <nothlit> nevron, probably because the program you were using didn't have root privileges
[12:40] <nevron> nothlit it asks the password with a prompt and i do enter it
[12:41] <nevron> no matter what i did it just gets back to the old conf
[12:41] <dark-shadow> nothlit, does it support Intel 945 GM vga cards ?
[12:41] <nothlit> nevron, make sure you're passing aticonfig the right options
[12:42] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, it didnt work..
[12:42] <nothlit> dark-shadow, i'm not sure, you'll have to look into that, probably
[12:42] <kkaisare> !nvidia
[12:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:42] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, what didn't work?
[12:42] <nevron> i am but still no luck i a running dual right now but i can only drag the icons from one desktop to the other not the windows or apps it wont let me
[12:42] <ollekalle> question: I have problems to get my TV-out working on my nvidia card. When I am console (and also when I am editing my BIOS settings) it works fine and the TV shows everything but as soon as I start x I get into troubles. If I just start x I get a lots of chessboard-looking patterns on my TV and if I lower frequencies in my XOrg.conf the log file states that there are no matching resolutions to use. Any ideas on what can be wr
[12:42] <nothlit> dark-shadow, help.ubuntu.com/community/Video <-- intel driver help
[12:42] <nothlit> !tvout
[12:42] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[12:43] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, madwifi didnt come back into /drivers
[12:43] <Temp_pennywise> i purged and installed just like you told me
[12:43] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, what package did that come from? try reinstalling restricted modules and linux source if thats what you used
[12:43] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, otherwise just reinstall all your kernel packages
[12:44] <kkaisare> Greetings, everyone. I am planning to buy a new computer, and while it isn't a make-or-break issue yet, I was wondering if there are any good 3D cards with open source drivers? I presume nvidioa isn't. ATi?
[12:44] <nothlit> kkaisare, opensource drivers = intel or old ati cards, (look into the radeon driver support list, not the fglrx)
[12:44] <nevron> nothlit i read all the forums i talked to dbo yesterday i reconfigured my x server about 10 times but i still cant get the big desktop feature under fglrx with a radeon 9800 pro
[12:45] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit,  I dont remember which package.... and ive already reinstalled restricted modules havnt tried linux source yet..
[12:45] <kkaisare> nothlit: Hmm. Nothing near top of the line, is it?
[12:45] <PupUser60b4b1why> hello.  a question.  can one pause mencoder during the an encode?
[12:45] <nothlit> kkaisare, of what?
[12:46] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, ok, aptitude search ~ilinux
[12:46] <kkaisare> nothlit: video cards with open source drivers?
[12:46] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, and reinstall all those packages, it might be in one of those
[12:46] <nothlit> kkaisare, oh yeah, but thats how the video card manufacturers keep their proprietary information and designs
[12:47] <nothlit> nevron, oh, well dbo knows a lot more about X configurations than I do
[12:47] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, is there a way to install all at once ?
[12:47] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, sudo aptitude reinstall ~ilinux
[12:47] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, ok thx! :)
[12:48] <nevron> why does fglrx.konf keep rolling back when i change the settings
[12:48] <nevron> that is the main problem
[12:48] <malc_> Is there any desktop widgets for gnome?  Like an equivalent to Superkaramba on kde
[12:49] <po0f> nevron: Does it show you the whole xorg.conf that it would have saved if it worked?
[12:49] <kkaisare> malc_: I remember something about desklets.
[12:49] <po0f> malc_: adeklets or gdekslets?
[12:49] <nothlit> adesklets is awesome
[12:49] <malc_> Thanks guys I will go and have a google
[12:49] <po0f> Blar, typos.
[12:49] <nothlit> but the (cruddy) equivalent to superkaramba is gdesklets
[12:49] <nevron> if it did is there a way to overwrite my xorg.conf with some other file using sudo
[12:50] <kkaisare> po0f: adesklets - do they work on XFCE?
[12:50] <frogzoo> malc_: gdesklets ? but they're pretty buggy
[12:50] <po0f> nevron: That's what I was getting at, just copy & paste it to a file in your home dir, and `sudo cp` it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[12:51] <nevron> ok i ll try that i hope this one works po0f thanx for the idea
[12:51] <po0f> kkaisare: I don't use them, I always thought they were pretty useless.  ;)
[12:51] <Hoag> Hey all. I've just gone through a HOWTO to install a Broadcom Wireless card. All steps seem to have work, but rather than making it work it seems to have.. removed the card from the network configuration menu... What do I do?
[12:51] <po0f> nevron: `sudo cp /etx/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak` before you do anything.
[12:52] <ldvx> hello, somebody knows if there is a gnome-pannel program to control rhythmbox? :D
[12:52] <nevron> ok i know i ll backit up first
[12:52] <po0f> s/etx/etc/
[12:52] <wasp_ems> what is the link you use to create a trashbin on your desktop?i found a hidden one in my home but i cannot make that open
[12:53] <plesnivyjano> pls past someone output of vgdisplay -v
[12:53] <plesnivyjano> paste
[12:53] <po0f> wasp_ems: In gconf-editor, apps->nautilus->desktop.
[12:53] <wasp_ems> po0f, thanx
[12:54] <nothlit> kkaisare, adesklets is DE independent :)
[12:54] <ezebe> hi, trying to upgrade dapper>edgy, but during download phase it fails to find package.gz files from http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubun...86/Packages.gz is this likely my fault or not?
[12:55] <po0f> ezebe: Down for now.
[12:55] <ompaul> ezebe, caution, upgrade is Dapper to Edgy using only offical repos
[12:55] <kkaisare> nothlit: Thanks. :) Was looking through the site right now.
[12:55] <ompaul> ezebe, others _may_ cause you grief
[12:55] <ezebe> oh ok thanks, I'll wait a while then
[12:56] <nothlit> kkaisare, the nice thing is that it is as resource light as conky :)
[12:56] <Klony> how will i superuser?
[12:56] <po0f> Klony: Via sudo or gksu.
[12:57] <Klony> im terminal?
[12:57] <po0f> Klony: FOrmer for command line, latter for GUI.
[12:58] <Klony> forgat it
[12:58] <kkaisare> nothlit: Hmm... Now that IS interesting
[12:58] <ace> Hi again all
[12:58] <ace> is RAID 1D (Duplexing) possible in ubuntu????? i really want this!!!!
[12:59] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, That didnt work either....
[12:59] <plesnivyjano> i have a roblem vith lvm it looks like lvdisplay shows exatly the same thing as lvdisplay -v...any ideas?
[12:59] <nothlit> kkaisare, if you use the nicest resource monitor, you may have to edit the config if you don't have all the /dev devices like temp and whatnot
[12:59] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, what were you missing again?
[12:59] <Prometheus_> .
[12:59] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, heh, madwifi in /drivers
[12:59] <po0f> nothlit: Madwifi drivers I think.
[01:00] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: I am looking at the package contents for linux-restricted-modules and I see the driver right in there, are you sure you reinstalle dit correctly?
[01:01] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, this is what i write: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname-r)
[01:01] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, well I don't have madwifi in my /usr/src
[01:01] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, did you try reinstalling all madwifi packages?
[01:01] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: There are no errors?
[01:02] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, i only have 1 madwifi package...
[01:02] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, not a single one
[01:02] <nothlit> Temp_pennywise, did you reinstall that?
[01:02] <Temp_pennywise> nothlit, Yes
[01:02] <po0f> Temp_pennywise: Did it even reinstall, or just exit with the 0 packages blah blah blah crap?
[01:02] <Hoag> Hey all. I've just gone through a HOWTO to install a Broadcom Wireless card. All steps seem to have work, but rather than making it work it seems to have.. removed the card from the network configuration menu... What do I do?
[01:03] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, im suer that it reinstalled because i had to download some nvidia drivers to get ubuntu working again
[01:03] <nevron> how do i install x11 open source ati radeon drivers
[01:03] <Faar> Installed FlashPlayer Plugin for Firefox, but now when I enter a site with Flash Firefox closes. Any ideas?
[01:03] <ootput> hi guys, does anyone know which subforum (if it exists) I should use to ask aboot ubuntu + beryl?
[01:04] <apokryphos> ootput: #ubuntuforums
[01:04] <po0f> ootput: Desktop Environments seems the likeliest.
[01:04] <apokryphos> ootput: if you mean which channel, then #ubuntu-xgl
[01:05] <ootput> po0f: yeah, wasn't too sure if it was considered 3rd party
[01:05] <ootput> apokryphos: appear to be full of stunned mullets atm :D
[01:05] <apokryphos> then idle
[01:05] <ootput> yes
[01:05] <PhibreOptix> Faar: Which version of FlashPlayer did you install?
[01:05] <markeib> at startup i always have to do sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia (ubuntu) do you know how i can avoid this?
[01:05] <Alarm> hello. i did download the latest jdk. and copied the bin file into the /usr/local and did run the ./jdk... command. (with root) the directory jdk16.0 was succesfully installed. but when i type java -version 1.4.2 is appeared . i guess the installation wasnt successful, what can be done ? i did follow the instractions from sun, but doesnt say much. just 1-2 things that i did follow
[01:05] <plesnivyjano> noone is using LVM here?
[01:06] <ootput> plesnivyjano: surely not, as I am
[01:06] <wasp_ems> when i stretch my icons on the desktop do i use more cpu?
[01:06] <po0f> Alarm: echo $PATH
[01:07] <po0f> Alarm: Does 1.4.2's dir appear before 1.6.0's?
[01:07] <Faar> PhibreOptix : I just used the update to "Install Plugin" showed in a flash form?
[01:07] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:/usr/local$ echo $PATH
[01:07] <Alarm> JAVA_HOME
[01:07] <PhibreOptix> Faar: Lemme go grab you the link for the new version of flash player
[01:08] <Alarm> i didnt really get what you mean with the 1.4.2 dir appear. its only one directory it was created, named jdk1.6.0
[01:08] <po0f> Alarm: According to `java -version`, you have 1.4.2 installed somewhere though.
[01:08] <PhibreOptix> Faar: Also, can you open up Firefox and type in about:plugins
[01:08] <wasp_ems> does anyone know how u change the defaults keys on xmms?
[01:08] <Alarm> so, what would be the next step ?
[01:09] <Jowi> Alarm, "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[01:09] <po0f> Alarm: JAVA_HOME is the only thing returned from `echo $PATH`?
[01:09] <Alarm> po0f:  yes
[01:09] <Faar> PhibreOptix : Thanks, Ill have a go at trying to re-install flashplayer
[01:09] <po0f> Alarm: You messed up somewhere along the way then.
[01:10] <PhibreOptix> Faar: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[01:10] <Alarm> cool :) hope that doesnt mean for me a new fresh installation of ubuntu
[01:10] <po0f> Alarm: Did you have to change anything in ~/.bashrc in the howto you followed?
[01:10] <Jowi> Alarm, try what i said. you should have the two versions to chose from
[01:11] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:/usr/local$ sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:11] <Alarm> bash: sudo: command not found
[01:11] <Alarm> sudo not found ? whats that now, a few mins ago i did use sudo
[01:11] <Jowi> ummm. no sudo?
[01:11] <po0f> Alarm: Your PATH is messed up.
[01:11] <w30> ! video capture cards
[01:11] <po0f> Alarm: What did the howto tell you to do exactly?
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video capture cards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <Jowi> path need a checkup
[01:12] <Alarm> well i did run PATH="JAVA_HOME" hoping to fix it
[01:12] <Alarm> but it seems that made everything worse
[01:12] <po0f> Alarm: `unset PATH`
[01:12] <w30> ! tv tuner card
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv tuner card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <Alarm> ok did this
[01:12] <po0f> Alarm: Now what does `echo $PATH` say?
[01:13] <zero_> hola gente
[01:13] <jpjacobs> Alarm, it should have been PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME
[01:13] <Alarm> this time nothing at all
[01:13] <zero_> buenos dias desde espaa
[01:13] <mobal> heeya
[01:13] <hjmills> zero #ubuntu-es
[01:13] <jpjacobs> Alarm, i would just open a new shell
[01:13] <w30> I installed an ATI TV Wonder Elite tv tuner card in my box, anyone got any suggestions on a help url to get it going?
[01:14] <mobal> whats the difference beetween soft and hard link?
[01:14] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ echo $PATH
[01:14] <Alarm> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[01:14] <dvarsam> hello
[01:14] <CharminTheMoose> I have a dell 1450 wireless usb adapter and Using ndiswrapper i can get the adapter to work but i can't when i use wep encryption.the wep is set at 10 character encryption
[01:14] <Alarm> ok now something comes out
[01:14] <dvarsam>  /join #forum-ambassadors
[01:15] <Alarm> i guess we fixed something. a few mins ago java -version didnt have an output. now it shows again 1.4.2
[01:15] <Temp_pennywise> po0f, what if i delete all files that madwifi package installed and then reinstall them, sometimes the kernel doesnt get this configured rightly if i have understand things correctly
[01:15] <Alarm> back where we started from :)
[01:15] <po0f> Alarm: Where did you install 1.6.0 to?
[01:15] <Alarm> so the jdk1.6.0 folder in /usr/local doesnt mean that jdk is also installed
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> w30: I would suggest looking it up at http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-pvrhwdb.php first
[01:16] <Alarm> well i have copied the bin file into /usr/local and run the ./jdk as root
[01:16] <Alarm> now i got a directory jdk1.6.0 in the /usr/local
[01:16] <w30> fyrestrtr, ok, good I will check that out thanks.
[01:16] <Alarm> with all the bin , demo and other files of java
[01:17] <po0f> Alarm: Move it back and try this: PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin
[01:17] <Alarm> move it back ? what do u mean with that.
[01:17] <po0f> Alarm: Err, PATH=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin:$PATH.
[01:17] <nevron> can someone guide me to install ati open source drivers
[01:18] <Alarm> ok did that
[01:18] <po0f> Alarm: Now what does `which java` say?
[01:18] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ java -version
[01:18] <Alarm> java version "1.6.0"
[01:18] <Alarm> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105
[01:18] <Alarm> seems that it works
[01:18] <po0f> Alarm: Yay.  :D
[01:18] <Alarm> now a normal qustion. what happens with the older java that i have on my system ?
[01:19] <po0f> Alarm: It rots there until you unistall/delete it.
[01:19] <nevron> po0f can you help me install open source ati drivers
[01:19] <Jaak_> how do i start an app on startup so it'll run at the login screen (not a session), i need synergy to start...
[01:19] <loco_gr[away] > nevron: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[01:19] <Alarm> how could i delete it ? dont want to remove something that will remove also libraries needed or i dont know what else. if its easy to answer. if not i guess i'll have to google it this time
[01:20] <po0f> Alarm: I would just keep it, just in case.
[01:20] <xitrox> where can i set which program loads which extension (for example mpg)
[01:20] <tengil> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37552/ can anybody take a look at this. I tried installing azureus and that is what happens when i try to start it
[01:20] <Jowi> Jaak_, you don't. well, not inside the login screen at least. you can start it before the login appears though.
[01:20] <Alarm> okie po0f , thank you a lot. really helpful :)
[01:20] <po0f> Alarm: Np.  ;D
[01:21] <Alarm> where can i find simple information about "PATH" command , i see there is no manual in terminal
[01:21] <Jaak_> Jowi, how do i do that?
[01:21] <nothlit> path isnt a command
[01:21] <nothlit> export is
[01:21] <Alarm> so what does path do in a few words ?
[01:21] <Alarm> for example: PATH=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin:$PATH
[01:21] <po0f> Alarm: add "PATH=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin:$PATH" to ~/.bashrc and you should be fine.
[01:21] <Jowi> Jaak_, you put the script (or the link to it) in /etc/init.d then you create a link from /etc/init.d/myscript to /etc/rc2.d/S90myscript
[01:22] <compengi> hi gnomefreak
[01:22] <nothlit> PATH doesn't do anything, its a variable
[01:22] <Alarm> okie
[01:22] <Jowi> Jaak_, or something similar to that. see if your app isn't already in /etc/init.d first. if it is you can run "sudo update-rc.d myscript defaults"
[01:24] <Alarm> po0f:  just copy the line you gave me in the  file ? there is plenty of other stuff writen
[01:24] <Jaak_> Jowi, thanks!
[01:24] <po0f> Alarm: Add it towards the end.  I like to add a comment to stuff as well.
[01:24] <Jowi> np Jaak_ if you need more detailed help - pm me
[01:25] <Alarm> ok did it
[01:25] <po0f> Alarm: Changes will take place when you open up a new terminal.
[01:26] <Alarm> okie
[01:26] <po0f> Alarm: Have fun with Java.  (eww!)  ;P
[01:27] <Alarm> hope so too :)
[01:27] <freakyfrag> anybody can help us getting an siemens amilo m7400 working with wlan
[01:27] <freakyfrag> we have to start the wifi card with echo 1 > /proc/driver/wireless/radio
[01:27] <freakyfrag> and we get permission denied
[01:28] <freakyfrag> even if we try this with sudo
[01:28] <Starcraftmazter> I can't find my $PATH setting anywhere, I've looked in: ~/.bashrc, /etc/profile, /etc/bash.bashrc  - and it isn't anywhere to be found, where the heck is it?
[01:29] <Starcraftmazter> yo?
[01:30] <knight>  how to run linuxlogo on each tty after startup?
[01:30] <Jowi> Starcraftmazter, it's in etc/environment
[01:30] <Starcraftmazter> thanks!
[01:31] <Starcraftmazter> is there a way to implement a change without a restart?
[01:31] <knight> hi...  how to run linuxlogo on each tty after startup?
[01:32] <wasp_ems> does anyone know how i can upload a photo in google?
[01:33] <rambo3> no
[01:33] <jpjacobs> knight, i guess this is something in /etc/inittab
[01:33] <l3mr> i'm having some problems fully understanding shorewall traffic shaping. i have a setup: isp->firewall(eth1)->firewall.local(eth2)->local machines... now, if i want to guarantee certain local machines a ping of 50 or less, where to i have to do the shaping, on eth2 or eth1?
[01:34] <compengi> wasp_ems, this is ubuntu support channel, you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic and ask
[01:34] <wasp_ems> ok
[01:34] <Starcraftmazter> coool
[01:35] <Starcraftmazter> WOOOHOOOO mysql works 8)
[01:35] <CharminTheMoose> I have a dell 1450 wireless usb adapter and Using ndiswrapper i can get the adapter to work but i can't when i use wep encryption.the wep is set at 10 character encryption
[01:36] <frogzoo> jpjacobs: no inittab in edgy
[01:36] <rambo3> use iwconfig with s: pass
[01:36] <rambo3> CharminTheMoose, is it set to hex
[01:37] <CharminTheMoose> rambo3:yes
[01:37] <CharminTheMoose> it's set to hex
[01:37] <CharminTheMoose> but if i set to ascii,dmesg complains something along the lines of:'eth1:setting encryption key 1 failed'
[01:38] <rambo3> CharminTheMoose, try with iwconfig
[01:39] <CharminTheMoose> rambo3:With s:password?
[01:39] <rambo3> yeah
[01:39] <concept10> Could someone do me a favor and post the swap entry in /etc/fstab (Edgy)
[01:39] <CharminTheMoose> rather iwconfig eth1 key s:password?
[01:39] <rambo3> and do it from start iwconfig essid  , mode key
[01:40] <CharminTheMoose> do i put the entire thing on a single line?
[01:40] <christiane> Hello. When I boot the script /etc/init.d/cryptdisks finishes with an error "wrong passphrase" but it doesn't ask me. When I later do the same from runlevel 2 it works. Any idea?
[01:40] <rambo3> CharminTheMoose, yes
[01:40] <rambo3> no
[01:40] <CharminTheMoose> ?
[01:40] <Faar> So I reinstalled Firefox, but still when I access a Flash site Firefox closes down, aditionally, my whole system has slowed own and even moving a windows lags.
[01:40] <concept10> christiane, try with sudo
[01:41] <defrysk> fear , what flash-package do you have installed ?
[01:41] <rambo3> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid ??? && sudo eth1 iwconfig mode managed && sudo eth1 iwconfig  key s:??? && sudo dhclient eth1
[01:41] <christiane> concept10: I think /etc/rc* is already executed as root.
[01:41] <Faar> defrysk : I unistalled it (Ubuntu Add/Remove).
[01:42] <concept10> christiane, you said ./etc/init.d/cr*
[01:42] <defrysk> Faar, was the name flashplugin-nonfree ?
[01:42] <CharminTheMoose> rambo3:will I have to update my /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:43] <rambo3> if it works then yes
[01:43] <Faar> defrysk : Macromedia FlashPlgin
[01:43] <CharminTheMoose> k,i'll try it rambo3
[01:43] <CharminTheMoose> :)
[01:43] <defrysk> Faar, the name of the package
[01:43] <christiane> concept10: Yes, that's were the symlinks in /etc/rc* point to.
[01:44] <hexidigital_> does anyone know how to remove the pixelated border from Konsole, to make it appear truely transparent?
[01:44] <concept10> christiane, did you try it?
[01:44] <Spitz_2> Hi
[01:44] <defrysk> faar ?
[01:44] <Faar> defrysk : Ah, ok. Yes it was. I could live with that Firefox gets funny but not that the whole system slows down.
[01:44] <CharminTheMoose> wait rambo3: isn't it supposed to be in hex? 'cos wep is in hex?
[01:45] <defrysk> you are sure the package name is not flashplayer-mozilla Faar ?
[01:45] <Spitz_2> May I interrump you guys for a sec please? ( It's a little question...)
[01:45] <joelliot> Faar  check this link  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213878&highlight=firefox+crash+dapper
[01:45] <Faar> defrysk : Version: 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (flashplugin-nonfree)
[01:45] <rambo3> CharminTheMoose, yes , but i told you to use iwconfig to see whats happining and maby get error
[01:45] <defrysk> Faar, ok
[01:45] <defrysk> !flash9 | Faar
[01:45] <ubotu> Faar: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[01:46] <CharminTheMoose> rambo3:ok,thanks for the help
[01:46] <christiane> concept10: Try what? Running as root? Yes, of course, otherwise I wouldn't have access to the device where the luks partition resides.
[01:46] <Faar> joelliot : Havent read the whole thread, but  cannot even start a site with flash, Firefox does not hang, it shuts down.
[01:47] <eilker> hi i am looking for printable version of man pages...
[01:47] <Faar> defrysk : Ill have a look around for that
[01:47] <Spitz_2> I try to compile new kernel with this command spitz@desktop:/usr/src/linux$ sudo cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config && sudo make oldconfig && sudo make xconfig
[01:47] <defrysk> Faar, get flash9 by enabling backorts
[01:47] <defrysk> Faar, ok
[01:47] <Z> what is minicom
[01:47] <rambo3> Faar,  clear cache , you maby have some open source flash player
[01:48] <hexidigi1al_> sorry, if anyone answered my question... my connection dropped
[01:48] <defrysk> rambo3, no he has the non-free
[01:48] <concept10> christiane, I don't  understand what you are trying to do.  If you want to use something in /etc/init.d/*  you need to use sudo... whats the problem with that?>
[01:48] <Faar> rambo3 : Cache in firefox is cleared.
[01:48] <Spitz_2> I keep enter hit, and then I got this : # configuration written to .config , but after that I got these error message ( I commented all wacom things in my xorg.conf )
[01:48] <Spitz_2> scripts/kconfig/qconf arch/i386/Kconfig X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[01:48] <Z> what is minicom package
[01:49] <Z> How to use winmodem in linux
[01:49] <Faar> What has Flash to do with my system? Not running Firefox -> not running flashplayer -> system slows down?
[01:49] <joelliot> Faar : I have the following code from the edgy unofficial guide
[01:49] <Z> how to use winmodem in ubuntu
[01:50] <joelliot> Note: if firefox crashes when visiting a website with flash content, do the following:
[01:50] <joelliot> sudo gedit /usr/bin/firefoxand add the following line as last but one line of the file:
[01:50] <joelliot> 
[01:50] <joelliot> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[01:50] <joelliot> 
[01:50] <joelliot> Now firefox shouldn't crash anymore. (Launchpad bug report: [1] )
[01:50] <Z> how can i config my dail-up in linux
[01:50] <frogzoo> Z: maybe you can get a driver, maybe you can't -> linmodem.org
[01:50] <Z> ???
[01:50] <Z> tell more
[01:50] <Faar> joelliot : Ill have a try
[01:51] <christiane> concept10: The problem is: When I run (yes, with sudo) the script in /etc/init.d/cryptdisks everything is fine and the program cryptsetup that's called by the script prompts for a passphrase. When the script is executed on system boot it doesn't ask for the passphrase; it just prints "wrong password".
[01:52] <Faar> joeilliot : What does "add the following line as last but one line of the file:" mean? Not the last line but, the second to last?
[01:53] <Alarm> i just downloaded some cx88 chip drivers and want to install them. i found from the homepage : http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/build.html at the very bottom some instructions. are those instructions of how to install the drivers or am i looking somewhere completely wrong ?
[01:53] <Faar> joelliot : Still dies on me :( Reinstall whole Ubuntu?
[01:54] <frogzoo> Z: that url should be linmodems.org
[01:55] <Z> it doesn help me
[01:55] <Z> anything else
[01:55] <Z> help me pls
[01:55] <joelliot> Faar: I have pasted the relevant section from the unofficial guide at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37562/
[01:55] <joelliot> plx. check it out
[01:56] <sadeq> Hi,
[01:56] <Z> :'(pls
[01:57] <sadeq> I want to install CLE266 (UniChorom Direver) in Degy (6.10) but I can not
[01:57] <sadeq> is there any one can help me?
[01:57] <nevron> i need the ati open source drivers where can i get it
[01:58] <dark-shadow> !restricted
[01:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:58] <xitrox> how can i compare two directories? (with subdirectories)
[01:58] <christiane> xitrox: rdiff?
[01:59] <xitrox> thx i had forgotten what the name was, christiane :)
[02:01] <Zodiac|Linux> how to install vlc?
[02:02] <serioussven> afternoon, I can't seem to find the GTK-2 Dev package, I allready enabled the multiverse.
[02:02] <xitrox> sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:02] <Zodiac|Linux> then it needs: "libgnutls12"
[02:02] <QwertyM> Zodiac|Linux, sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-*
[02:03] <kekko> ma qua s parla sl in inglese?
[02:03] <QwertyM> apt-get will get the dependency for you
[02:03] <Russel> hiho
[02:03] <QwertyM> hello
[02:03] <Russel> where can i find a smp (hyperthreading) kernel?
[02:03] <kekko> help me for synscan
[02:03] <serioussven> never mind, libgtk was my answer...
[02:04] <nevron> please some one tell me where to find ati open surce drivers
[02:05] <QwertyM> Russel, for HT / Dual cored machines - sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[02:05] <Russel> thx
[02:06] <nevron> come on there are 910 people here can you please tell me where to find the open source ati drivers?
[02:06] <QwertyM> Russel, remember, you need to reinstall nvidia drivers if you have a card of theirs
[02:06] <QwertyM> for the specific kernel again
[02:07] <Russel> k...
[02:07] <Spitz_2> nevron: They are normally already installed on your system I think. Just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf & change 'vesa' to 'radeon'
[02:08] <blue-frog> nevron: synpatic is a good place to look for things
[02:09] <nevron> how would it be listed
[02:09] <blue-frog> nevron: search for fglrx
[02:09] <any> hi
[02:09] <nevron> i searched for ati and radeon but couldnt find anything
[02:09] <knight> hi.. is rc.local executed after gettys?
[02:09] <nevron> ok i have the fglrx but i dont want to use it
[02:09] <kekko> configure: error: libdnet not found
[02:09] <nevron> will fglrx let me run aiglx?
[02:10] <frogzoo> nevron: the ati drivers in the stock repos are open source
[02:10] <any> Why is the version of the fglrx driver never the same as the kernel module ?
[02:10] <frogzoo> nevron: the closed source is called fglrx
[02:10] <knight> hi guys.. is rc.local executed after gettys?
[02:11] <knight> is dere any man page for rc.local???
[02:11] <nevron> i have installed fglrx
[02:11] <vook> How would I go about limiting system resource usage on a process (cpu time, memory, etc...)?
[02:11] <nevron> but will it let me run aiglx?
[02:11] <frogzoo> knight: "This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel." - so I suppose yes
[02:12] <blue-frog> nevron: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu
[02:12] <Nippoo> !help
[02:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:12] <zeroGraph> !acl
[02:12] <ubotu> acl: Access control list utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.39-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 220 kB
[02:12] <nevron> i am reading now
[02:13] <zeroGraph> Anyone know something about ACLs in Ubuntu? Can't find something decent to read.
[02:13] <vook> I ask for debugging purposes.  A process keeps spiraling out of control, going into a loop, taking up 100% of cputime.  How could I limit such a process to only 10% of system resources when it goes into this endless loop?
[02:13] <vook> short of using a VM, that is.
[02:13] <frogzoo> !permissions | zeroGraph
[02:13] <ubotu> zeroGraph: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:14] <qos> hey foks
[02:14] <qos> folks :)
[02:14] <nevron> ok they say that edgy is already shipped with aiglx
[02:14] <sebest> hello anyone know why nautiluse doesn't want to delete folder created like this: mkdir toto && sudo chown nobody:nogroup toto
[02:14] <frogzoo> zeroGraph: you may also like eiciel - acl's under nautilus
[02:14] <nevron> i have beryl and is i can run it through xgl but how do i create a session of aiglx
[02:14] <shinobi2> are people going to update repository for dapper?  vim 7 is not there
[02:14] <zeroGraph> frogzoo Oh, justr tho
[02:14] <blue-frog> sebest: you are not owner of the folder
[02:14] <sebest> blue-frog i'm the owner of the parent
[02:15] <sebest> and i can delete it using the shell
[02:15] <sebest> mkdir toto && sudo chown nobody:nogroup toto && rmdir toto  <- works
[02:15] <blue-frog> sebest: sudo chown nobody:nogroup toto,  you are owner of toto?
[02:15] <sebest> blue-frog i'm not the owner of toto, but i'm the owner of the parent folder of toto
[02:15] <zeroGraph> frogzoo: *sorry, Enter key is too big*, I'm still reading about this so I don't know everything - but shouldn't ACL be workiung by default, and I mean ACLs, not the standard filerights system.
[02:16] <qos> something killed my alsa system. i can't use "aplay <file>" to play a wav file... it always says that there is an error during opening the audiodevice. with root rights i can use the command.
[02:16] <nevron> how do i start an aiglx session
[02:16] <sebest> blue-frog, give it a try in your home dir
[02:16] <vook> sebest: it doesn't matter if you are the owner of the parent.  If you own /home/myuser, and root owns /home/myuser/folder, you cannot remove folder.
[02:16] <frogzoo> zeroGraph: oh they're there in the filesystem, but with no tools, you can't access them
[02:16] <blue-frog> sebest: indeed and nautilus deletes it perfectly..
[02:17] <vook> sebest: you want NIS or active dirschmectory if you want permissions to propogate.
[02:17] <sebest> vook : i think you can
[02:17] <frogzoo> sebest: of course you can delete toto, as long as you created in your home, wont' work in /tmp though
[02:18] <wasp_ems> is there a simple application i can add to see my ram usage?
[02:18] <nothlit> That's because /tmp has a stick bit set
[02:18] <zeroGraph> frogzoo: Thanks, been reading about how they should work in a book, but when they didn't I got confused :) So it's alright then.
[02:18] <wasp_ems> like system monitor is for cpu?
[02:18] <nothlit> sticky*
[02:18] <sebest> frogzoo, yes that's why /tmp has the sticky bit
[02:18] <malt> http://www.m4lt.com/~c0rk/uploaded/cvcv.bmp, why will my apache server not open that bmp file like that rest of the images like jpg
[02:18] <sebest> but my nautilus doesn't want to delete such file
[02:18] <wasp_ems> found it ok
[02:18] <frogzoo> sebest: so what's your problem?
[02:19] <frogzoo> zeroGraph: ...AND you need to mount the filesystem with the 'act' option
[02:19] <vook> sebest: oops, you are right
[02:19] <sebest> frogzoo, my problem is that nautilus doesn't want to remove such folders
[02:19] <frogzoo> zeroGraph: s/act/acl
[02:19] <sebest> frogzoo : it display a little lock on the icon and refuse to delete it
[02:20] <lardarse> which forum section is the best to look in for information on getting dual monitor setups to work?
[02:20] <frogzoo> sebest: ok, it's a bug
[02:20] <blue-frog> sebest: use the delete function of nautilus not the move to trash
[02:21] <sebest> blue-frog, i don't have a delete option in the right click menu
[02:21] <frogzoo> sebest: nautilus won't do it for me (edgy)
[02:21] <lardarse> sebest: shift+delete
[02:21] <blue-frog> sebest: edit/preferences/behavior
[02:21] <vook> sebest: I've experienced what you are experiencing.  At one point I added something to .bashrc to chown everything back to me.me in my home directory and recursively at login, but it became too cumbersome.
[02:21] <blue-frog> sebest: include delete command
[02:21] <sebest> shift+delete works
[02:21] <frogzoo> sebest: oh you know why this doesn't work ?
[02:22] <zeroGraph> frogzoo: Hmm, is there a step-by-step guide you know of?
[02:22] <sebest> frogzoo, because it tries to move it
[02:22] <sebest> ?
[02:22] <frogzoo> sebest: because nautilus doesn't delete - it moves, & you don't have rights to create a nouser file
[02:22] <dark-shadow> whats a good media player that plays DVD, mp3 & mpeg/avi/wmv
[02:22] <blue-frog> sebest: and shift del  is the equivalent of the delete submenu
[02:22] <sebest> but IMO, this is definitly a bug, it should tell me it can't move it and propose to delete it
[02:22] <wasp_ems> for some reason my cpu goes very easily to 100% and my ram shows 38% used by programs and 61% by cache..any ideas why this might be happening?
[02:23] <saharaab> hi all
[02:23] <vook> sebest: eh, I almost recall bringing something like this up in #gnome once.  I think that is by design.
[02:24] <blue-frog> dark-shadow: vlc
[02:24] <frogzoo> wasp_ems: it's typical for linux to use unused ram for cache - but the high cpu is not good - try 'top' or 'htop' to pin down the guilty process
[02:24] <sebest> vook: but it should be fixed, it's quite annoying :)
[02:24] <dark-shadow> with gui ?
[02:24] <blue-frog> dark-shadow: yes
[02:25] <vook> I prefer gnome over the others asthetically at least, but I do recall having problems with nautilus in the past.  I recommend the shell for all file functions, or if really daring, midnight commander.  Otherwise, fear the wrath of the kde people.
[02:25] <wasp_ems> frogzoo, after i go into top..how do i see which one is using the more cpu?is it supposed to be the first one?
[02:25] <vook> sebest: I hear ya.
[02:25] <jrib> !players | dark-shadow
[02:25] <ubotu> dark-shadow: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:26] <dark-shadow> which is the best that joins all formats , almost like a media player performs on winblows
[02:27] <jrib> dark-shadow: I don't think there really is one, use one of the audio players to keep a music library and use a video player to play your videos
[02:28] <dark-shadow> thx
[02:28] <gephalt> what application can i use to edit .pdf files-
[02:28] <zeroGraph> dark-shadow: Vlc is very nice, handles pretty much everything, exists as a windoze version aswell
[02:28] <gephalt> like creating bookmarks- that sorta thing
[02:28] <gephalt> evince doesnt seem to do that
[02:28] <dark-shadow> thx all, vlc it is
[02:28] <knight> ubuntu rules... bye
[02:28] <zeroGraph> dark-shadow: think the package name is wxvlc
[02:29] <frogzoo> wasp_ems: if you press 'P' top will sort by cpu
[02:29] <gephalt> anyone?
[02:29] <wasp_ems> frogzoo, thanx
[02:29] <gephalt> there's the adobe reader version on linux- wonder whether acrobat is available
[02:30] <frogzoo> gephalt: wine might be an option
[02:30] <frogzoo> !appdb | gephalt
[02:30] <ubotu> gephalt: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:30] <zeroGraph> gephalt: From what I've heard, (note: don't know for sure), you need a special Adobe program to actually _edit_ .pdf files.
[02:30] <Saturnus-irc> Anybody know how to change the settings for gnome terminal (xterm)? By default the gnome terminal shows the path to the folder you're in, and it makes it quite unreadable if you're deep inside the three-structure.
[02:30] <Duesentrieb> hi all - i have a problem with alsa; I have been trying to install a manual build of it to make it work with my soundcard. it didn't go well, so i triewd to --reinstall all the alsa stuff using apt.
[02:30] <Duesentrieb> but now, the kernel module snd_hda_intel is no longer foun
[02:31] <Duesentrieb> i musst be missing something, or messed something up badly.
[02:31] <Duesentrieb> so.... how can i fix this?
[02:31] <gephalt> if wine works- i'll use the acrobat copy i use in windows. :)
[02:32] <jrib> Saturnus-irc: $PS1 gets set in ~/.bashrc, that's what you want to edit.  Google for "bash prompt customization" (maybe)
[02:32] <frogzoo> Saturnus-irc: set PS1 in ~/.bashrc
[02:32] <Duesentrieb> Saturnus-irc: the prompt is handeled by the shell, not the terminal. It is controlled using the $PS1. Look into the bash manual, search fro "prompt".
[02:32] <Duesentrieb> bah, too late :)
[02:33] <Duesentrieb> anyway - if modprobe doesn't find a module, what could be wrong? it should be installed - how can i check?
[02:33] <frogzoo> Duesentrieb: lsmod |grep module
[02:33] <mhb> Hi all
[02:34] <mhb> anyone know how to fix this error in a wlan card: [17185356.952000]  wlan0: tx error 0x20, buf 06!
[02:34] <Duesentrieb> frogzoo: that doesnt find it.
[02:35] <spitz> Hi, I just compiled kernel 2.19 but when I try to boot it, I got this error : /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell
[02:35] <spitz> /bin/sh: can't acces tty. Job control turned off
[02:35] <frogzoo> Duesentrieb: which module?
[02:35] <spitz> Does anybody knows what it means?
[02:35] <niekie> Can anyone comment on why ALSA does not work on my laptop, but works on the next reboot if I remove /var/lib/alsa/asound.state? (though after rebooting again, it fails to work again)
[02:35] <Duesentrieb> frogzoo: snd_hda_intel (its an alsa driver)
[02:36] <wasp_ems> sorry to be off topic but because i am getting no answer in #kopete can anyone help me in why when sending files they are sent really slow?
[02:36] <ken_> Hello! i need some help. I downloaded and installed a application named geogebra. I can run it by double clickting the .jar file in the /opt directory. Now i want to add a shortcut to it in the applications>other> menu. How do i do it?
[02:36] <ken_> a
[02:36] <frogzoo> Duesentrieb: locate snd_hda_intel
[02:36] <Duesentrieb> hehe
[02:36] <CharminTheMoose> hey everybody
[02:36] <Duesentrieb> yea, right
[02:36] <Duesentrieb> no output
[02:36] <jrib> ken_: right click on the ubuntu icon in the menu, edit menu
[02:37] <Duesentrieb> hm... what package should it be in?
[02:37] <Duesentrieb> i thought i have all the alsa stuff re-installed
[02:37] <ken_> jrib: Thank you it is done!
[02:38] <jrib> Duesentrieb: change the underscores to dashes
[02:38] <niekie> Anyone got any idea? If I do OSS, sound does not work, except for headphones, which is quite annoying (also, I can not record anything)
[02:38] <niekie> So I really want to get ALSA to work.
[02:38] <frogzoo> niekie: if you're running edgy, you should use esd
[02:38] <niekie> frogzoo, eh?
[02:39] <niekie> frogzoo, I am doing so.
[02:39] <ken_> I need help: I downloaded the source for a animation software called KTOON. I extracted it and now the folder is lying on my desktop. Can someone tell me how to compile this thing, using checkinstall. Moreover i dont have the command 'checkinstall' available which library-package will i need?
[02:39] <niekie> Though for sound driver ;)
[02:39] <Saturnus-irc> Thanks for the help pointing me to bash. I was already looking at the bash config files, but couldn't find the right variable. :)
[02:39] <ajopaul_> !esd
[02:39] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[02:39] <frogzoo> niekie: sys -> prefs-> sound - enable s/w mixing = esd
[02:39] <jrib> !compile | ken_
[02:39] <ubotu> ken_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:39] <Duesentrieb> jrib: ah, yea, then it finds files.
[02:40] <niekie> frogzoo, that is enabled ;)
[02:40] <spitz> Can anybody help me with my problem? :p
[02:40] <Duesentrieb> jrib, frogzoo: ok... i see snd-hda-intel.ko for several kernels, but not for the one i'm currently using. where do i get it from?
[02:40] <niekie> frogzoo, though, the OSS mixer works, but ALSA mixer doesn't ;)
[02:41] <rm_you> Is anyone here on a MacBook>
[02:41] <jrib> Duesentrieb: linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 owns that file for me (for that kernel)
[02:41] <rm_you> ?
[02:41] <jrib> !anyone | rm_you
[02:41] <ubotu> rm_you: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:41] <Duesentrieb> jrib: right - but i'm using 10-generic (because it supports dual core). and i don't see the .ko for that.
[02:41] <rm_you> ok.... in that case:
[02:41] <zeroGraph> !funny-manpages
[02:41] <ubotu> funny-manpages: more funny manpages. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-5 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 140 kB
[02:41] <Duesentrieb> i'm pretty sure it used the be there, though...
[02:41] <CharminTheMoose> when I do 'sudo iwconfig eth1 key s:<mypassword> [1] ' i get the following error mesage: error for wireless request 'set encode' (8B2A) set failed on device eth1 ; invalid argument
[02:42] <jrib> Duesentrieb: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko   too
[02:42] <Duesentrieb> jrib: odd... perhaps i should re-install the kernel.
[02:43] <christiane> My problem booting with cryptsetup: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/62751
[02:43] <rm_you> When compiling a kernel module for the motion sensor built in to MacBooks (module name: ams), it complains that I am missing a bunch of headers that should be present in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10/include/asm/, and I can't figure out why they aren't there... Has anyone else experienced this very specific problem? >_>
[02:43] <Duesentrieb> > ll /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/
[02:43] <Duesentrieb> total 0
[02:43] <Duesentrieb> odd.
[02:44] <jrib> Duesentrieb: dpkg -L linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic | grep snd-hda-intel
[02:44] <Duesentrieb> rm_you: have you installed the kernel header package?
[02:44] <oskude> rm_you: have you installed the "linux-headers-*" package ? (where * is your kernel)
[02:44] <rm_you> Duesentrieb: yes.
[02:44] <rm_you> oskude: yes, it is installd
[02:44] <Duesentrieb> rm_you: maybe the build script is looking in the wrong place, then
[02:45] <Duesentrieb> try to find out where the headers actually are, and set the appropriate options/variables/symlinks
[02:45] <oskude> rm_you: does it say which file is not found ? can _you_ find it on the hd ?
[02:45] <minimec> Hi. It's the first time I have to install some Nvidia drivers for a linux system. My question: Should I use the 'official linux-restricted-modules from the restricted repo or the 9629 nVidia driver I found here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA#Installing_from_repository ?
[02:45] <rm_you> I did an updatedb, and then tried to locate a couple of them.... they appear on my system, but in the asm-powerpc/ directory.... but this mac uses an intel chip, and asm/ is correctly linked to asm-i386/, which does not have the right includes
[02:46] <Duesentrieb> jrib: yea, it's in there. guess it got removed when installing the manual alsa build.
[02:46] <jrib> Duesentrieb: yeah
[02:46] <jrib> minimec: usually, you will want to use the version in the repositories
[02:46] <oskude> rm_you: is there souce code you try "tweaked" for intel based macs ?`(is there like an option in configure or so)
[02:46] <rm_you> for example: error: asm/of_device.h: No such file or directory; locate "of_device.h": /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10/include/asm-powerpc/of_device.h
[02:46] <frogzoo> niekie: -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[02:47] <Fleebailey33> should the first time ubuntu boot after install take a while?
[02:47] <Fleebailey33> its hanging
[02:47] <rm_you> oskude: no, the makefile and the source file are very simple....
[02:47] <CharminTheMoose>  if iwconfig eth1 displays something along the lines of essid:off/any and the access point is set as:not associated. how can i fill in those fields?
[02:47] <jrib> minimec: unless, sine you are on the beryl site, you intend on installing beryl.  Are you?
[02:47] <oskude> rm_you: maybe they are "hard coded" for ppc macs only ?
[02:47] <rm_you> oskude: and I'm not even sure if the sensor the module is for even existed on the pre-intel macbooks
[02:48] <frogzoo> !sound | niekie these also:
[02:48] <ubotu> niekie these also:: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:48] <element43> what would be the proper way to automount an INTERNAL hard drive? I have it formatted as ext3. Should I edit my fstab file and then chown/mod the mount? Or is there another way?
[02:48] <rm_you> oskude: that's a good thought though, it is possible I suppose that this module uses things that would only be present on a powerpc system...
[02:48] <niekie> frogzoo, ok, I'll have a look.
[02:48] <oskude> rm_you: hmm, then thats odd... it definetly is looking in the wrong place for the file... now its the question "who" is doing this, the code or "ubuntu"
[02:48] <nevron> ok people here is the dilemma i want to run aiglx with edgy eft and i have the fglrx drivers but aiglx needs the composite enable option which if i enable it i loose my 3d acceleration so am i rigt about thinking that there is no way for me to run beryl using aiglx?
[02:49] <LinTux> What Antivirus for linux
[02:49] <testsusf> hello im trying to figure out the script that checks the filesystem.. and im woundering.. what maked the files /fastboot and /forcefsck im currently looking at the checkfs.sh script in /etc/init.d/
[02:49] <minimec> jrib: thx. Well I would like to have some kind of 3d Desktop. Well with my ATI Card I have to use XGL in combination with beryl. So the '9629 driver' is the patched one?
[02:49] <rm_you> oskude: the code.
[02:49] <frogzoo> niekie: you probly just need to install alsa-oss
[02:49] <rm_you> oskude: It has #includes to <asm/of_device.h>, for example
[02:49] <testsusf> do anyone know
[02:49] <niekie> frogzoo, I did that before, did not work.
[02:49] <wasp_ems> i have setup my printer but i when i print no ink comes onto the paper anyone know why?
[02:49] <A-L-A-R-M> i've created a shortcut of an application on my desktop. when i run it from the shortcut the application doesnt work properly and instead of loading java, it loads gij4.1 and doesnt allow me to end the application, just to kill it . on the other hand when i run the application from terminal it loads normaly . whats wrong with the shortcut ?
[02:49] <niekie> frogzoo, the problem is quite odd.
[02:50] <brasileiro> Hi, I've installed a lib from a package.deb, whay will happen if I install the new version using the source?
[02:50] <niekie> On reboot, sound doesn't work anymore, unless I make sure /var/lib/alsa/asound.state is removed and then reboot.
[02:50] <rm_you> oskude: so I guess your theory that it was written expecting to be compiled on a ppc mac makes the most sense of anything i've found so far...
[02:50] <oskude> rm_you: well, im not familiar with that project, so you maybe have better change to talk with the people who code it...
[02:50] <jrib> minimec: you don't install nvidia drivers for ati cards.  I'm not really sure what you need for ati.  Check with the people at #ubuntu-xgl
[02:50] <MUTU-windows> Hi... any idea how I can free some memory on an almost dead machine? I've been waiting for half an hour to switch to the firefox window so that maybe i'd be able to close it and free some memory.
[02:50] <MUTU-windows> The titlebar hasn't even come up yet
[02:50] <niekie> MUTU-windows, hold on a moment.
[02:51] <brasileiro> Hi, I've installed a lib from a package.deb, what will happen if I install the new version using the source?
[02:51] <jpjacobs> MUTU-windows, kill some things...
[02:51] <frogzoo> niekie: also, rm, or move aside, ~/.asoundrc if it's there
[02:51] <testsusf> hmm hmm hmm
[02:51] <Duesentrieb> jrib: ok, module loads, still no sound. Just like the last 4 months :(
[02:51] <rm_you> oskude: yeah, I'm emailing him
[02:51] <spitz> Hi, I just compiled kernel 2.19 but when I try to boot it, I got this error : /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell Does anyboyd now what it means? I've got SATA 250Gig, Intel Core Duo ( I took 686 isntead of 386 in paramet to compile kernel)
[02:51] <MUTU-windows> jpjacobs: i'm tryign to kill firefox... but it won't switch to the firefox window. the mouse moves every 10 seconds
[02:52] <jpjacobs> switch to a VT , log in, type killall firefox-bin <enter>
[02:52] <Duesentrieb> MUTU-windows: hit ctrl-alt F2
[02:52] <minimec> jrib: I will not install any ati stuff on that Laptop ;) I one heared, that there is a patched driver, and that you can use beryl without aiglx or xgl with nvidia cards. So I guess that the driver from the 'beryl-wiki' is the patched one.
[02:52] <oskude> MUTU-windows: ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back to x windows
[02:52] <MUTU-windows> jpjacobs: how do i switch to a VT? sorry i'm a noob :)
[02:52] <Duesentrieb> MUTU-windows: that switches you to a virtuel terminal (text mode). log in, then type "killall firefox"
[02:53] <jpjacobs> what Duesentrieb says
[02:53] <MUTU-windows> ah ok thanks
[02:53] <ken_> I need to compile a software KTOON, and the 'ubuntu-documentation' is not helping. Is someone willing to take me through the steps?
[02:53] <ken_> please?
[02:53] <minimec> MUTU-windows: killall firefox-bin is better ;)
[02:53] <jrib> minimec: I think you confused me.  Are you talking about two different systems: one that has an ati card and one that has an nvidia one?
[02:53] <Duesentrieb> ken_: for most "tarballs", unpack, go to directory, type ./configure && make && make install
[02:54] <mmholguin008836>  hola
[02:54] <brasileiro> Hi, I've installed a lib from a package.deb, what will happen if I install the new version using the source?
[02:54] <mmholguin008836> soy nuevo en esto me podrian ayudar
[02:54] <jrib> !es | mmholguin008836
[02:54] <ubotu> mmholguin008836: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:54] <ken_> Duesentrieb: on doing ./configure i get "ken@ken-desktop:~/Desktop/ktoon-0.8$ ./configure
[02:54] <ken_>  *  You're using Qt 3
[02:54] <ken_>  *  Please install Qt >= 4.1 or set QTDIR to Qt4 installation path
[02:54] <ken_> "
[02:54] <niekie> He might also try calling oom_kill if the system is really stuck and he can't switch to a console.
[02:54] <jrib> brasileiro: what lib are you talking about?  It could be harmless... it could make programs not work...
[02:54] <Duesentrieb> brasileiro: you will confuse the package management (it will think you still have the old version). When you use the package manager to update later on, it may not remove the "manual" stuff cleanly
[02:54] <minimec> jrib: I am using different linux systems with Ati cards, all running with xgl or aiglx. Now I have a new Laptop with a geforce 7600, that I have to install as a christmas present ;)
[02:54] <mmholguin008836> gracias
[02:54] <jrib> !paste | ken_
[02:54] <ubotu> ken_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:54] <niekie> MUTU-windows, you can switch to a console, can't you?
[02:55] <brasileiro> jrib, wxWidgets
[02:55] <brasileiro> Duesentrieb, so I need to wait until the package be released?
[02:55] <ken_> Can someone please help me?
[02:55] <jrib> minimec: ah ok, yeah.  The driver they link on the beryl wiki is the beta driver and it provides those patches you were describing.  But remember it is still beta
[02:55] <BigToe> amarok won't play any files but flash player and totem will. how do I fix it?
[02:55] <brasileiro> Duesentrieb, I'm using Edgy, there's any problem if I install a Dapper package?
[02:55] <BigToe> when I open it in terminal I get "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[02:55] <BigToe> "
[02:56] <jrib> ken_: have you read the wiki page on compiling?
[02:56] <ken_> jrib: yes
[02:56] <Duesentrieb> ken_: it's telling you that you need a newer version of Qt. Also note that you'll have to install the *-dev package in addition to any new qt packages.
[02:56] <jrib> ken_: you need the qt dev packages
[02:56] <Duesentrieb> brasileiro: it will tell you if there are conflicts.
[02:56] <ken_> jrib: Do i get them from Synaptic?
[02:56] <minimec> jrib: So you would prefer the official ubuntu one and use aiglx in combination with beryl?
[02:56] <TehBigToe> amarok won't play any files but flash player and totem will. how do I fix it?
[02:56] <eia768> hi all, i wanna know why ubuntu dapper LTS still has scilab broken
[02:56] <CactusWiZaRd> !distupgrade
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <brasileiro> Duesentrieb, ok, I'll try.. thanks ;)
[02:57] <eia768> so many complains and nothing is done
[02:57] <ken_> jrib: Duesentrieb: i downloaded the just now from Synaptic but the installer says i need higher version. Where do i get them from?
[02:57] <jrib> minimec: well, the nvidia driver will give you a lot better performance... I use it
[02:57] <eia768> or wxmaxima...it is still broken
[02:57] <minimec> jrib: So use the driver described on the beryl-wiki site?
[02:57] <spitz> I don't wanna push, but does nobody has an answer for my question ?
[02:58] <jrib> ken_: install did you install qt4 dev packages?
[02:58] <eia768> how long LTS get to upgrade a broken package with many users complain?
[02:58] <reverseblade> Can I make my broadcom wireless and nvidia work with 64 bit ? are there drivers for this ?
[02:58] <jrib> minimec: yes, that's what I would do, but keep in mind it's beta.  I've had some lockups
[02:58] <CactusWiZaRd> how to upgrade 6.06 to 6.10?
[02:58] <ken_> jrib: i installed the qt-dev packages in Synaptic, but they seem to be old for the installer, as it tells me i need a higher version of qt
[02:58] <jrib> ken_: how about libqt4-dev ?
[02:59] <reverseblade> eia768, I'd like to state my "personal" opinion about LTS, if you like to listen
[02:59] <jrib> !upgrade | CactusWiZaRd
[02:59] <ubotu> CactusWiZaRd: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:59] <TehBigToe> amarok won't play any files but flash player and totem will. how do I fix it?
[02:59] <jrib> eia768: how is it broken?
[02:59] <Duesentrieb> TehBigToe: if using gnome, make sure amarok is not configured to use arts
[02:59] <eia768> reverseblade , please tell me...
[03:00] <TehBigToe> how do I do that Duesentrieb?
[03:00] <minimec> jrib: ok. I'll give it a try,  i guess ;) Thx for your explanations...
[03:00] <A-L-A-R-M> tried to install webmin but i get error of missing libraries webmin depends on libnet-ssleay-perl; however:
[03:00] <A-L-A-R-M>   Package libnet-ssleay-perl is not installed.  . and other libraries as well. how can that be fixed ?
[03:00] <Duesentrieb> TehBigToe: i don't know. somewhere in the config dialog, i expect.
[03:00] <dv5237> hi, what do i need to install after a server install if i want to run a minimalized xorg on it?
[03:00] <ken_> jrib: I am downloading that library. That one is BIG. Moreover which library would i need to use the 'checkinstall' command? Right now, checkinstall is unrecognised
[03:00] <spitz> Is 2.6.19 standard dpm?
[03:00] <TehBigToe> ok
[03:00] <eia768> jrib  , wxmaxima dont work, socket problem. and scilab works with alien font :-)
[03:00] <TehBigToe> thanks
[03:00] <adaptr> spitz: standard what ?
[03:01] <spitz> is it Intel Core Duo compatible?
[03:01] <spitz> cause maybe I didn't install the right kernel?
[03:01] <spitz> and that could be the reason it chrashes
[03:01] <adaptr> spitz: any Linux kernel since oh.. 2.2 or something is SMP-capable
[03:01] <TehBigToe> I asked the question in #amarok
[03:01] <TehBigToe> they said <Russel> TehBigToe: look out how to enable mp3 for xine in your distro
[03:01] <adaptr> spitz: which kernel did you install ?
[03:01] <eia768> what do you guys think about LTS? is it a good thing or not?
[03:02] <TehBigToe> how do I enable mp3 for xine?
[03:02] <jrib> eia768: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/defoma/+bug/3496  check if wxmaxima has a bug report as well
[03:02] <spitz> I installed 2.6.19
[03:02] <adaptr> eia768: it is essential for my servers
[03:02] <apokryphos> TehBigToe: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[03:02] <reverseblade> eia768, Dapper was huge improvement internally to the prior version. But it took longer time they expected. I assume there were a lot of problems they encounter during the development. Although, dapper is long term supported, edgy is far better then dapper in every way. I suggest you to move on with edgy. And I might be wrong, these are my personal opinions ,as I told
[03:02] <Duesentrieb> TehBigToe: if it playes otehr files but mp3, then they are right. if it doesn't play any sound, do as i said.
[03:02] <spitz> adaptr: because my radeon X1300 doesn't work on 'standard ubuntu kern'l
[03:02] <Duesentrieb> TehBigToe: also, if it doesn't have an mp3 lib, it should tell you. it shouldn't just be silent.
[03:02] <adaptr> spitz: that's not nearly enough information.. post the output of "uname -a"
[03:03] <testsusf> Help me
[03:03] <adaptr> spitz: video support has little or nothing to do with the kernel
[03:03] <apokryphos> !helpme
[03:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:03] <testsusf> Hey im trying to figure out the script that checks the filesystem.. and im woundering.. what Are | Makes the files /fastboot and /forcefsck im currently looking at the checkfs.sh script in /etc/init.d/
[03:03] <paranoia16> is it possible to try out kde in ubuntu?
[03:03] <jrib> !kde | paranoia16
[03:03] <ubotu> paranoia16: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:03] <apokryphos> paranoia16: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[03:03] <eia768> reverseblade , i am thinking about it... maybe i upgrade this week.. i am not sure yet
[03:03] <nivek> Hi. Im having problems burning a cd with k3b. I ran k3b first through the menu, but it said it had no permission to the device. So i started it through the terminal using sudo, it hasn't given me any errors, but its just not burning it. Its been at 0% for 5 mins now, Any ideas?
[03:03] <reverseblade> eia768, specifically  edgy should have been the one with LTS not dapper.
[03:03] <spitz> adaptr: The output is Linux desktop 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux,
[03:03] <dv5237> hi, what do i need to install after a server install if i want to run a minimalized xorg on it?
[03:03] <jrib> apokryphos: I think I'm going to start using that too
[03:04] <adaptr> spitz: that is not an SMP kernel - go to Synaptic and install the proper one for your system
[03:04] <adaptr> spitz: also, its ooold
[03:04] <apokryphos> jrib: it's good since it helps people help themselves more. 90% of faqs are there.
[03:04] <spitz> adaptr: but I  isntalled 2.6.19 but that doesn't boot ( this error : /dev/sda1 does not exist
[03:04] <paranoia16> if i install kubuntu desktop, can i switch back to gnome? how would i do that?
[03:04] <Duesentrieb> parabolize: you can set the desktop to use on the login prompt.
[03:04] <apokryphos> paranoia16: at the login screen you can select which one you want to go into
[03:04] <adaptr> spitz: nobody said you should use 2.6.19, I have the latest for dapper, which is 2.6.17.25-50
[03:04] <reverseblade> paranoia16, in the splash sceen, click options/session etc, and you will find your choices
[03:04] <eia768> nivek, maybe u have to be on the "burn" group... try to execute k3b as root and see the setup
[03:05] <nivek> eia768, thats why i tried it with using sudo
[03:05] <testsusf> So.. can anyone help me ?
[03:05] <reverseblade> !ask | testsusf,
[03:05] <ubotu> testsusf,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:05] <spitz> adaptr: Sorry ( I 'm newbie ) but how can I remove the 2.6.19 kernel & update my current?
[03:05] <fenrig> how can i install the new openoffice
[03:05] <nivek> or would i need to specifically setup access to the root user eia768?
[03:05] <fenrig> (2.1)
[03:05] <malt> http://www.m4lt.com/~c0rk/uploaded/cvcv.bmp, why will my apache server not open that bmp file like that rest of the images like jpg
[03:06] <fenrig> !openoffice
[03:06] <testsusf> HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO PASTE MY QUESTION ?'
[03:06] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[03:06] <eia768> nivek, maybe u should make u "normal user"  belong to group burn
[03:06] <testsusf> Hey im trying to figure out the script that checks the filesystem.. and im woundering.. what Are | Makes the files /fastboot and /forcefsck im currently looking at the checkfs.sh script in /etc/init.d/
[03:06] <eia768> !pymol
[03:06] <nivek> eia768, i might try that. Thanks
[03:06] <ubotu> pymol: An OpenGL Molecular Graphics System written in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.98+0.99rc6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3713 kB, installed size 11592 kB
[03:06] <spitz> adaptr: And would it probably solve my Radeon X1300 problems?
[03:06] <apokryphos> !caps | testsusf
[03:06] <ubotu> testsusf: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:06] <starz> yeah this is crazy
[03:06] <starz> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ @ 2.16GHz]  mem[Physical : 1011MB, 64.5% free]  disk[Total : 296.08GB, 64.50% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ]  sound[] 
[03:06] <reverseblade> fenrig, check it out if there is a new release in backports or search this in forums. if last, you may consider compiling from the source which is not hard. Finally you might wait couple of months also
[03:06] <testsusf> apokryphos apparantly not
[03:06] <starz> with those stats im getting loads of 3.7 just running firefox this and totem
[03:06] <eia768> not a problem
[03:07] <apokryphos> testsusf: like I said, please don't shout.
[03:07] <starz> why is edgy so load intensive etcetcetcetc
[03:07] <adaptr> spitz: sorry, my kernel is 2.6.15.25-50; you should use that one too: 2.6.15.25-50-686, which has SMP support for P4 and up
[03:07] <reverseblade> testsusf, try pasting your question every 5 min. and try channels like #linux as well
[03:07] <eia768> hey guys.. how was the upgrade from dapper? was it clean and fast? was it trick?
[03:07] <adaptr> spitz: as for tye Radeon - you'd have to find out what the problem *is*, first
[03:08] <spitz> adaptr : Ok, I will do that, but first I would like to clean the 2.6.19 kernel, and how can i update from 2.6.1 to 2.6.15
[03:08] <nivek> eia768, according to the group settings, my user has 'cd-drive' access. There is no specific 'burn group' listed.
[03:08] <reverseblade> eia768, I haven't done it but, I have seen many people suffered for it. If it is an option consider backing up your data and doing a fresh install, which should not be hard at all
[03:08] <adaptr> spitz: you have to run A kernel, so you'd best leave cleaning out the 2.6.19 to after you installed another one
[03:09] <eia768> reverseblade. are u using dapper?
[03:09] <adaptr> spitz: just install the one I recommended form synaptic, and reboot to use it, then you can delete the old one
[03:09] <adaptr> spitz: don't forget to install restricted-modules for it!
[03:09] <spitz> adaptr: The problem is posted here ( In dutch, but you will see important things between [code]  tags ... ) In short: fglrxinfo gives spits out Generic instead of X1300
[03:09] <adaptr> spitz: I can read Dutch... when I concentrate
[03:10] <spitz> adaptr: Here it is http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/27100185#27100185
[03:11] <eia768> reverseblade, do u still use dapper?
[03:11] <reverseblade> eia768, no of course not
[03:12] <testsusf> Hey im trying to figure out the script that checks the filesystem.. and im woundering.. So What Are | Makes the files /fastboot and /forcefsck im currently looking at the checkfs.sh script in /etc/init.d/ ???
[03:12] <adaptr> spitz: are you running dapper or edgy ?
[03:12] <spitz> adaptr: In wich repository I can find the kernel?
[03:12] <reverseblade> eia768, as I told, dapper was a huge improvement. But edgy is superb. Stable fast, recognizes all hardware, it is perfect
[03:12] <spitz> adaptr: Edgy
[03:12] <eia768> lol
[03:13] <reverseblade> eia768, fiesty will be even better with new kernels
[03:13] <frogzoo> testsusf: forcefsck is just a file to touch if you want to check your drives next boot
[03:13] <dv5237> hi, what do i need to install after a server install if i want to run a minimalized xorg on it?
[03:13] <adaptr> spitz: the kernels are in main, search for linux-image
[03:13] <reverseblade> eia768, I am gonna install fiesty in 1h, which is at alpha stage
[03:14] <spitz> adaptr: btw, thank you for helping me
[03:14] <reverseblade> dv5237, prolly install gnome-desktop package
[03:14] <theD3viL> why i have so bad sound ..i have to set volume of master and pcm on ~60 to have good sound =/
[03:14] <testsusf> frogzoo no no.. ii mean.. where does it come from
[03:14] <frogzoo> testsusf: user
[03:14] <testsusf> frogzoo, what makes it
[03:14] <sapo> hi :) i m trying to burn some files in a cd here, but it says "invalid unicode" how do i fix it? i copied the files from another cd..
[03:14] <reverseblade> theD3viL, try #alsa as well
[03:15] <theD3viL> reverseblade: tried but no answer =//
[03:15] <frogzoo> testsusf: say you want to check all your drives, 'touch /forcefsck' & reboot
[03:15] <reverseblade> sapo, how are you burning it
[03:15] <binster> has anyone here guys still remmber how to use smasung crt monitor? :)
[03:15] <reverseblade> theD3viL, yeah I know
[03:15] <dv5237> reverseblade: i dont want to run gnome but fluxbox
[03:15] <sapo> reverseblade, with the nautilus cd burner..
[03:15] <frogzoo> !fixres | binster
[03:15] <ubotu> binster: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:15] <reverseblade> sapo, hmm dunno
[03:15] <testsusf> frogzoo, what?
[03:15] <sapo> i ll try installing gnome-baker then
[03:16] <theD3viL> reverseblade: you dont know what could be wrong?
[03:16] <binster> ubotu: thx!
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <reverseblade> sapo, your file names may be longer, try burining them by growisofs -J -R - Z -input_bla_bla=iso_blabla /dev/hd_blah = path/to/files  , also
[03:16] <reverseblade> theD3viL, no
[03:16] <reverseblade> theD3viL, tried #linux ?
[03:16] <testsusf> frogzoo exactly what script does that  'touch /forcefsck' & reboot stuff your talking about?
[03:17] <kurumin> can someone hlp me?
[03:17] <sapo> reverseblade,  the problem are the chars..  , 
[03:17] <theD3viL> reverseblade: not yet.
[03:17] <GreyGhost> kurumin ,u directly as the question ;)
[03:17] <frogzoo> testsusf: the sysadmin
[03:17] <kurumin> I cannot login as the normal user...
[03:17] <reverseblade> theD3viL, try it then
[03:17] <GreyGhost> kurumin "normal" ? the default install of U comes only with one user
[03:17] <jpjacobs> kurumin, mind that usernames and passwords are case sensitive
[03:18] <kurumin> yep..
[03:18] <spitz> adaptr: This is what I get http://members.lycos.nl/choxo/content/synaptic.png
[03:18] <eia768> ei kurumin ta perdido em q?
[03:18] <kurumin> ufa
[03:18] <christiane> Hello, I want install a program from a different repository and added the line "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main" to sources.list. aptitude first couldn't find anyzhing there, so I changed it to "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian/ unstable main" and now it throws errors: "E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian_dists_unstable_main_i18n_Translation-de". Does anyone know how to fix
[03:18] <christiane> that?
[03:18] <kurumin> eu nao to conseguindo logar como usuario padrao no ubuntu
[03:18] <testsusf> frogzoo i cant find that script
[03:18] <dv5237> hi, what do i need to install after a server install if i want to run a minimalized xorg on it? (dont want to run gnome but fluxbox)
[03:19] <kurumin> foi depois de tentar instalar o driver da ati..
[03:19] <eia768> hummmmmm
[03:19] <eia768> vc ta logando como o q entao?
[03:19] <kurumin> to usando o cd do kurumin
[03:19] <eia768> hummm
[03:19] <jpjacobs> mm guys... /msg?
[03:19] <A-L-A-R-M> where can i locate the apt-get spool folder ?
[03:20] <kurumin> depois q tentei instalar o driver da ati.. deu erro no boot.. tentei reparar com o cd alternate do ubuntu..
[03:20] <adaptr> spitz: sadly, you're missing exactly the important bits - you need to see what the image is FOR - the description, and all of it
[03:20] <kurumin> da que "cagou" tudo..
[03:20] <Duesentrieb> A-L-A-R-M: /var/cache/apt, probably
[03:20] <eia768> cara, alguma merda foi feita, e nao fui eu..hehehe, instala de novo se nao tiver muita coisa la
[03:20] <adaptr> A-L-A-R-M: /var/cache/apt
[03:20] <kurumin> tentei reinstalar..
[03:20] <kurumin> duas vezes
[03:20] <frogzoo> A-L-A-R-M: /var/cache/apt/
[03:21] <kurumin> inclusive formatando a particao do sistema
[03:21] <eia768> e nao deu?
[03:21] <adaptr> kurumin: ENGLISH please
[03:21] <ken_> jrib: I downloaded that library, and restarted the terminal; and did ./configure. Still i get " *  You're using Qt 3
[03:21] <ken_>  *  Please install Qt >= 4.1 or set QTDIR to Qt4 installation path
[03:21] <ken_> "
[03:21] <A-L-A-R-M> okie
[03:21] <adaptr> eia768: that goes for you too
[03:21] <A-L-A-R-M> thanks
[03:21] <kurumin> sorry guys.. there is a guy who speak in portuguese.. and he is hlping me.. ok?
[03:21] <jpjacobs> !paset|ken_
[03:21] <eia768> hehehehe
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <jpjacobs> !paste|ken_
[03:21] <spitz> adaptr: sorry, In wich package I would seeck information in description?
[03:21] <ubotu> ken_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:21] <adaptr> kurumin: then go private with him
[03:21] <kurumin> ok.. sorry ..
[03:21] <ken_> Can someone please help me compile a application? please?
[03:21] <adaptr> spitz: the linux-image-generic one is probably it.. they seem to have thrown away the 686 specific packages
[03:21] <frogzoo> !pt
[03:21] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:21] <eia768> vao toma no cu bando de fdp!!!!!!
[03:22] <jengc0il> nothlit: hi guy
[03:22] <claudio> hi to all...i've bought a Trust WB-1400T webcamera... it works with camorama but colours are not the right ones...what can i do? I've seen that it's a PAC207-BCA based Cameras....please help me
[03:22] <eia768> !filhodaputa
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filhodaputa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <adaptr> eia768: please stop
[03:22] <jengc0il> nothlit: i'm need help
[03:22] <ken_> can someone help me, compile a application???
[03:22] <GreyGhost> !gcc | ken_
[03:22] <ubotu> ken_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:22] <jengc0il> !compile
[03:22] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:22] <ken_> GreyGhost: I read it
[03:23] <frogzoo> !pt | eia768 && kurumin
[03:23] <ubotu> eia768 && kurumin: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:23] <ken_> And i still getting weird messages
[03:23] <spitz> adaptr: But i've got It already installed isn't it?
[03:23] <jengc0il> !permission
[03:23] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[03:23] <Wooksta> does xchat have a perform like "mIRC" does so you can auto join channels etc when it connects to a specific server?
[03:23] <GreyGhost> ken_ , u get an error u mean?  what r u trying to compile?
[03:23] <eia768> !essecanalehcheiodebaitola
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essecanalehcheiodebaitola - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <ken_> GreyGhost: I am compiling a software called KTOON.
[03:24] <apokryphos> !botabuse | eia768
[03:24] <ubotu> eia768: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[03:24] <ken_> GreyGhost: When i run ./configure, i get " *  You're using Qt 3
[03:24] <ken_>  *  Please install Qt >= 4.1 or set QTDIR to Qt4 installation path
[03:24] <ken_> "
[03:24] <GreyGhost>  ken_ ,i've heard of it... but never tried it... u've got all the dependencies installed?
[03:24] <ken_> GreyGhost: I dont know anything about dependancies
[03:24] <MUTU-windows> hi, how do i enable the vnc server on my xubuntu please?
[03:24] <GreyGhost> ken_ ,oh if thats the error. ..then u have QT installed?
[03:24] <jpjacobs> ken_, you obviously need QT4, it's possible that is not in synaptic, then get it elsewehere
[03:25] <claudio> i've bought a Trust WB-1400T webcamera... it works with camorama but colours are not the right ones...what can i do? I've seen that it's a PAC207-BCA based Cameras....please help me
[03:25] <ken_> This is too frustrating for me!
[03:25] <ken_> Goodbye!
[03:25] <MUTU-windows> hi, how do i enable the vnc server on my xubuntu please? I did "sudo aptitude install vncserver" and it installed, but i can't connect to it.
[03:25] <jpjacobs> bye ken_
[03:26] <adaptr> gr :)
[03:26] <claudio> anybody can help me?
[03:26] <jpjacobs> MUTU-windows, perhaps you still have to start it.
[03:26] <kane77> MUTU-windows, try running it...
[03:26] <MUTU-windows> jpjacobs: any idea how i would do that please, and have it starting on startup?
[03:26] <spitz> adaptr: But i've got It already installed isn't it?
[03:26] <claudio> hi to all...i've bought a Trust WB-1400T webcamera... it works with camorama but colours are not the right ones...what can i do? I've seen that it's a PAC207-BCA based Cameras....please help me
[03:26] <MUTU-windows> kane77: it's not in the Applications menu :S
[03:27] <jpjacobs> mmm try sudo /etc/init.d/vnc(hit tab) start <enter>
[03:27] <Zodiac|Linux> how to use two monitors in linux? like, i have an laptop, which is connected to my TV with a VGA... how to get the same screen on both monitors? (lcd and tv)
[03:27] <Zodiac|Linux>  with windows i just had to click fn + f4..
[03:27] <jpjacobs> !Xinerama|Zodia|Linux
[03:27] <ubotu> Zodia|Linux: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[03:27] <kane77> MUTU-windows try starting writng the name and use tab to aut complete... (hitting tab twice gives you all the programs that start with letters you specified)
[03:28] <Renu_> hello!can i make a tvtuner work on ubuntu?
[03:28] <kane77> Renu_, yes you can
[03:28] <adaptr> spitz: okay, yes - but it isn't running SMP, is it ? what does "cat /proc/cpuinfo" say ? does it show 2 CPUs ?
[03:28] <GreyGhost> where did ken_ go off too?
[03:28] <adaptr> GreyGhost: sulking ! hah\
[03:28] <kane77> Renu_, it worked for me straightaway...
[03:28] <GreyGhost> i found the thing he was looking for ...and he's gone...
[03:29] <adaptr> GreyGhost: not worth your trouble, believe me
[03:29] <Renu_> kane77 how did u make it?
[03:29] <ata> anyone knows where I can get automatix? http://www.getautomatix.com is fubar
[03:29] <spitz> adaptr: It shows the correct name, but gives this processor       : 0
[03:29] <GreyGhost> heh
[03:29] <boog> good morning all, any place I can research sharing a dvd burner from my ubuntu box to another unix box (Mac)? or is it even possible?
[03:29] <jpjacobs> ata, stay away from automatix
[03:29] <spitz> adaptr: model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHz
[03:29] <dromer> hehe
[03:29] <jpjacobs> !restricted|ata
[03:29] <ubotu> ata: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:30] <adaptr> spitz: if there is no processor 1, then SMP is not enabled...
[03:30] <kurumin> where the user are stored on ubuntu (wich file)?
[03:30] <kurumin> users
[03:30] <spitz> adaptr: Then its not enabled :(
[03:31] <Renu_> kane77 can u show me how?
[03:31] <adaptr> kurumin: /etc/passwd?
[03:31] <jpjacobs> kurumin, /etc/passwd /etc/shadow if i'm not mistaken
[03:31] <adaptr> spitz: then Google the forums for how to do that with the Edgy kernel... Dapper just has SMP enabled on the 686 kernel
[03:31] <ata> jpjacobs: why is automatix bad? I like mplayer, adobe reader and azureus. seems like the easiest way to get them is automatix, right?
[03:32] <Renu_> can anybody want to help me to work a tvtuner?
[03:32] <boog> I'm actually wanting to be able to burn a dvd over the network
[03:32] <yuv656> how do i set my twinview so that it doesn't spread my wallpaper across both monitors?
[03:32] <kane77> Renu_, just install the kdetv...
[03:32] <adaptr> ata: mplayer is in the repos, automatix is only useful if youcan't get all media formats to work
[03:32] <Renu_> it is in synaptic?
[03:32] <spitz> adaptr: Ok thansk for helpinh me, I will shoot my question to google intead of you ;) Thanks for helpinh me out
[03:32] <adaptr> spitz: geen probleem
[03:32] <kane77> Renu_, yes I think so...
[03:32] <jpjacobs> ata, automatix installs stuff with --force_all ... that means force anything, do not care about system breakage , etcetc
[03:33] <spitz> adaptr: prachtig ;)
[03:33] <spitz> adaptr: where are you from ?
[03:33] <kane77> Renu_, (maybe only in universe/multiverse)...
[03:33] <Renu_> itis
[03:33] <adaptr> spitz: rotjeknor
[03:33] <yuv656> how do i set my twinview so that it doesn't spread my wallpaper across both monitors?
[03:34] <jpjacobs> ata, it is much much better to install packages by hand. it's as simple as setting the right sources.list (www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic) and searching the packages in synaptic
[03:34] <jpjacobs> srry gotta go!
[03:34] <ata> jpjacobs: that url doesn't seem to support edgy
[03:35] <Zodiac|Linux> where is xorg.conf located?
[03:35] <ata> zodiac: /etc/X11
[03:35] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. I have an external HDD drive caled 'LACIE'. I am trying to empty the wastebacket to free space but I get an error saying files cannot be deleted as it a Read-Only File Syste. I have tried chmod to 777 but I get : 'chmod: changing permissions of `/media/LACIE/': Read-only file system'. How can make the FS write-enabled? Thanks
[03:36] <oskude> Zodiac|Linux: you can allso ask your machine with: locate xorg.conf
[03:36] <kane77> gizmo_the_great1, what fs is it formated to?
[03:36] <ata> gizmo: i'd guess the drive is formatted with ntfs, which is read-only
[03:36] <Zodiac|Linux> oskude, thx
[03:36] <gizmo_the_great1> i will have a look and get back to you in 10 seconds
[03:37] <Zodiac|Linux> ata, thx
[03:37] <CalJohn> gizmo_the_great1: look up fuse and ntfs-3g and poke
[03:37] <CalJohn> gizmo_the_great1: that's if it's ntfs
[03:37] <gizmo_the_great1> it is FAT (vfat)
[03:37] <gizmo_the_great1> I am able to copy files to it no problem, but it won't let me delete files out of the wastebaket
[03:38] <kane77> gizmo_the_great1, have you tried "sudo" removing it?
[03:38] <gizmo_the_great1> kane77: I have indeed, yes
[03:38] <gizmo_the_great1> kane77: same error
[03:39] <gizmo_the_great1> kane77: let me try via terminal
[03:39] <gizmo_the_great1> kane77: hang on
[03:39] <ata> if chmod is saying "read-only filesystem", it seems weird that you'd be able to copy files to that drive...
[03:39] <kane77> gizmo_the_great1, OK..
[03:40] <whyameye> is it possible to mount a remote filesystem through ssh from the command line so that my apps can access the remote filesystem as if it were local (i.e.. even if they do not support a remote filesystem protocol they can read and write files to the remote system)?
[03:40] <frogzoo> gizmo_the_great1: what's the line in fstab ?
[03:40] <ata> jpjacobs: thanks. I'll use aptitude instead.
[03:40] <gizmo_the_great1> kane77: nope. Same error. I cd'd to to .Trash-ted, executed 'sudo rm *' and it came back with a list of entries like this : 'rm: cannot remove `xpti.dat': Read-only file system'
[03:41] <frogzoo> !fuse | whyameye
[03:41] <ubotu> whyameye: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:41] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: let me go and look
[03:41] <age6racer> Hi all, I have a probelm with my desktop running Ubuntu 6.10. A couple of days ago it started acting funny, when inside a gnome session it takes forever to read from my root drive (the one that the OS is on) but it's still really quick with the other drive (which I use for storage)
[03:41] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: there is not an entry preent. It was auto mounted during boot up.
[03:41] <CalJohn> whyameye: yes it is, but you'd be better off using nfs (if it supports encryption) rather than ssh
[03:41] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: is that the problem?
[03:42] <claudio> hi to all...i've bought a Trust WB-1400T webcamera... it works with camorama but colours are not the right ones...what can i do? I've seen that it's a PAC207-BCA based Cameras....please help me
[03:42] <AlexC_> grrr, How can I disable SHIFT+Backspace to restart X ? I've lost so so so much work because I accidently hit it
[03:42] <age6racer> I'm pretty sure it's not the hardware becuase Ubuntu still boots just as fast as it used to. Its just when inside gnome that it's slow.
[03:42] <whyameye> CalJohn: ok thanks. I was also looking at sshfs...
[03:42] <claudio> colours are really bad
[03:42] <AlexC_> done it like 4 times today, amazingly annoying.
[03:42] <frogzoo> !sshfs | whyameye
[03:42] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB
[03:43] <christiane> !marillat
[03:43] <ubotu> marillat is a repository created for Debian. Please don't use it on Ubuntu. Consider using !seveas !plf or !cipherfunk
[03:43] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: according to fstab, there i no entry for mounting the external drive. It auto mounts either during boot up (if plugged in) or when plugged in mid-session. is that the problem?
[03:43] <frogzoo> gizmo_the_great1: what does the 'mount' line for it report?
[03:43] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: i will go and see
[03:43] <tuqann> hello everyone
[03:44] <christiane> !seveas
[03:44] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:44] <AlexC_> How can I disable shift+backspace = restart x? I've lost a lot of work because I accidenty hit it
[03:44] <athomas> hello everybody, I have a little probleme with my laptop toshiba M70-168 running ubuntu edgy eft. The touchpad is ok, but the scrolling function is off. It's strange because, if I restart gdm without restarting the computer, the scrolling function will be OK ! And that every time ! Can someone help me ?
[03:44] <testsusf> :(
[03:44] <dv5237> what xorg package do i need to install after i installed server version? i dont want gnome
[03:44] <tuqann> anyone can help setting apt-get and synaptic with a proxy?
[03:44] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: It says this : '/dev/sda1 on /media/LACIE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)'
[03:44] <adaptr> AlexC_: then that is something you enabled yourself, since the default is ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:44] <LjL> dv5237: i suggest "xorg"
[03:44] <elkbuntu> AlexC_, a. dont repeat the question so quickly, b. put this into a terminal: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"
[03:44] <CalJohn> AlexC_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=312072
[03:44] <dv5237> LjL: not xserver-xorg?
[03:45] <adaptr> dv5237: what ubuntu are you running ? chances are you already *have* gnome
[03:45] <AlexC_> adaptr: that's what I thought, but I havn't enabled anything to do that.
[03:45] <LjL> dv5237: no, that won't give you all that is needed i'm afraid
[03:45] <adaptr> AlexC_: running beryl or compiz ?
[03:45] <age6racer> Anyone ever had this slow read probelm before?
[03:45] <dv5237> adaptr: server installation so im whitout xorg atm
[03:45] <CalJohn> AlexC_: that was the first result for "disable shift backspace ctrl ubuntu" in google.  please check google, at least quickly, first.
[03:45] <adaptr> age6racer: you're reading slowly ?
[03:45] <AlexC_> elkbuntu: sorry, it said the message couldn't be sent or something like that before so
[03:45] <dv5237> LjL: ok thats a good point do i need to install more? for fonts or something like that?
[03:46] <LjL> dv5237: if you get xorg, i think the basic fonts are included
[03:46] <age6racer> adaptr: yeah
[03:46] <adaptr> dv5237: just install [*|k|x] ubuntu-desktop then, that will take care of everything
[03:46] <tuqann> I added export_httpproxy and http_proxy to a number of files to get wget, apt-sudo and automatix2 to run through a proxy, now that I'm outside the proxy (direct connection) I can't seem to get them to work even though I went to the files and edited them back
[03:46] <age6racer> adaptr: Like I said before, I think it's a gnome issue cos the OS still boots from that drive jusr as fast as it used to
[03:47] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: Mount reports the following : '/dev/sda1 on /media/LACIE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)'. Is it something to do with the 'nosuid', or the 'uid=1000' entry?
[03:47] <Jussi01> I have a quick question...I might be blind, but does anyone know where in beryl you can change what a window does when you double click on the top headline bar? Ie. i want it to go from maximised to the smaller size instead of rolling up..can anyone help?
[03:47] <frogzoo> gizmo_the_great1: what does 'id' say?
[03:47] <tuqann> I donno is my nick is showing, it's Tuqann
[03:47] <LjL> tuqann: i suppose export_httpproxy is a typo?
[03:47] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: id reports 'uid=1000(ted) gid=1000(ted) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(ted)'
[03:47] <LjL> !automatix | tuqann, by the way
[03:47] <ubotu> tuqann, by the way: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:48] <tuqann> regardless, I removed all those instances from the files, I used ctrl-h to get to the hidden files, still tries to find the proxy everytime I use apt-get
[03:48] <kane77> !worksforme
[03:48] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:48] <LjL> tuqann: what you maybe you've also set a proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf?
[03:48] <tuqann> first place I went to
[03:49] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: so I think that means that the mount is assigning me as the autorised person to use it? As both report UID as 1000, and 1000 = ted?
[03:49] <csalsb> anybody out there that can help with vmware issues
[03:49] <paranoia16> what is the terminal command to remove a dir?
[03:49] <tuqann> etc/apt/apt.conf, also .bashrc, wgetrc in a number of folders (in etc and in my profile folder)
[03:49] <gizmo_the_great1> paranoia16: rm -r I think
[03:49] <LjL> tuqann: what happens now exactly when you try to apt-get update?
[03:49] <csalsb> I have it installed and every time I run it I get the message to run vmware-config.pl
[03:49] <Lord_Shadow> rm -r
[03:49] <frogzoo> gizmo_the_great1: I think the umask should be 4 digits (ie umask=0077) - I'd try giving the disk a line in /etc/fstab (with the noauto option)
[03:49] <oskude> paranoia16: rmdir (for empty dirs)
[03:49] <frogzoo> paranoia16: rmdir
[03:50] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: I will have a go at that and let you know. Give me 5 :-)
[03:50] <tuqann> nothing, it says "connecting to xxxxxx.proxy" and it times out
[03:50] <LjL> csalsb: then run it :-) consider there's vmware-player ready to run in the official repositories (although now that you've installed another version manually, i suppose it might not work that smoothly)
[03:50] <lafielle> Hi, how do I get a program to autostart?
[03:50] <lafielle> preferably without having to resort to the commandline.
[03:50] <apokryphos> !autostart
[03:50] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[03:50] <LjL> tuqann: xxxx.proxy being the proxy you had originally set up, i suppose?
[03:50] <lafielle> cheers!
[03:50] <frogzoo> lafielle: sys -> prefs -> session
[03:51] <testsusf> frogzoo
[03:51] <tuqann> yes, my university proxy
[03:51] <LjL> tuqann: make sure everything has gone away by doing "echo $http_proxy $HTTP_PROXY"
[03:51] <csalsb> i am trying to run it but it won't start everytime I go to run it I get that message after I have configured it already
[03:51] <testsusf> i cant find out what makes thouse file.. can you point me to the script that does?
[03:51] <unimatrix9> i thought you could add it to gnome to autostart
[03:51] <LjL> tuqann: and, if that shows nothing, try sudo sh -c "echo $http_proxy $HTTP_PROXY"
[03:51] <Jussi01> I have a quick question...I might be blind, but does anyone know where in beryl you can change what a window does when you double click on the top headline bar? Ie. i want it to go from maximised to the smaller size instead of rolling up..can anyone help?
[03:52] <frogzoo> testsusf: as I said, /forcefsck is created by the user
[03:52] <ubuntu_> hola
[03:52] <tuqann> bash: http://usr:******@proxy.aub.edu.lb:3128/: No such file or directory
[03:52] <lafielle> Perfect, thanks.
[03:52] <LjL> Jussi01: i think it's in the Emerald settings
[03:52] <ubuntu_> gente como esta
[03:52] <LjL> !es | ubuntu_
[03:52] <testsusf> frogzoo whrere?
[03:52] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:52] <ubuntu_> hola gente como esta
[03:52] <testsusf> frogzoo, and how
[03:52] <LjL> tuqann: wait, that's when using which command?
[03:52] <frogzoo> testsusf: that's the full path 'sudo touch /forcefsck'
[03:52] <LjL> ubuntu_: english here please. /join #ubuntu-es for spanish
[03:53] <tuqann> what you just write me, echo $.....
[03:53] <ubuntu_> electron19_12@hotmail.com
[03:53] <Jussi01> LjL thanks a lot you are correct!!
[03:53] <malt> what is the command to see disk space usage of a users directory?
[03:53] <lafielle> Question 2: Is firestarter the preferred firewall manager for ubuntu?
[03:53] <testsusf> frogzoo your not making any sence
[03:53] <testsusf> *sense
[03:53] <LjL> frogzoo, testsusf: wasn't following, but "shutdown -F -r now" will restart the computer *and* perform a filesystem check when it reboots, without touching files manually
[03:53] <frogzoo> lafielle: well, some people prefer raw iptables
[03:54] <LjL> tuqann: ok then either those settings you removed haven't really gone away, or you're still inside a shell that had them enabled - try starting a *new* shell and trying apt-get again
[03:54] <testsusf> no no no no..
[03:54] <lafielle> frogzoo: well, for the layman :)
[03:54] <testsusf> in what script does that touch /forcefsck
[03:55] <LjL> tuqann: and if that fails, try     export HTTP_PROXY=          and       export http_proxy=
[03:55] <kosnick> can i format a drive as ntfs through ubuntu? i got ntfs-3g already
[03:55] <frogzoo> lafielle: you could do much worse - firestarter is fine
[03:55] <tuqann> I closed all instances of terminal and started a newone (ctrl + ~) but I still get this
[03:55] <tuqann> how can I start a clean new shell
[03:55] <thompa> my be browsing is slowed down for some reason, what is the configuration to check in firefox?
[03:55] <Renu_> kane77 i install kdetv but is not working
[03:56] <frogzoo> tuqann: accessories -> terminal
[03:56] <kosnick> tuqann : just by typing the name of it , if i remember correctly
[03:56] <Navyseal> anyone know about visual basic? need some help
[03:56] <jrib> tuqann: this = ??
[03:56] <thompa> there is about a 20 sec. delay for a page to load
[03:56] <malt> is there any command in ubuntu to see current bandwidth usage?
[03:56] <LjL> tuqann, try the echo commands above
[03:56] <LjL> tuqann: i mean export
[03:56] <testsusf> frogzoo, from where does 'sudo touch /forcefsck' get executed?
[03:56] <frogzoo> Navyseal: you won't have much luck with VB here soz
[03:56] <testsusf> what scrit
[03:56] <testsusf> *script
[03:56] <Renu_> is any body from eateurope who is using a tvtuner?
[03:56] <Renu_> on ubuntu?
[03:57] <Navyseal> frogzoo :( where can i find ?
[03:57] <frogzoo> testsusf: a human enters those keystrokes into a terminal window and executes them
[03:57] <oskude> malt: i like "iptraf", not installed by default... (if you wanted a cli tool)
[03:57] <malt> oskude: no command to see bandwidth at all of ethernet card?
[03:58] <malt> for example this like
[03:58] <malt> Downstream: 4.17 KBytes/s  Upstream: 0.07 KBytes/s
[03:58] <testsusf> frogzoo you have no idea what im talining about
[03:58] <Renu_> is anybody from easteurope to show me howto see on a tvtuner?
[03:58] <Balachmar> Hi, can someone help me to find to cause of system crashes?
[03:58] <tuqann> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:58] <tarzeau> Renu_: where exactly?
[03:58] <tarzeau> Renu_: just use tvtime?
[03:58] <Renu_> romania
[03:59] <tuqann> sometimes I get this, after a couple of terminal "close and start again" I go back to the proxy problem
[03:59] <testsusf> frogzoo, take a a look at /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh about like 35
[03:59] <dv5237> LjL: it cant find package xorg i already uncomment the stuff in sources.list
[03:59] <lafielle> frogzoo: thanks.
[03:59] <LjL> dv5237: i guess you're on dapper
[03:59] <dv5237> LjL: correct :)
[03:59] <lafielle> I'm adding firestarter to my autostart list.. Should I add it as 'gksu firestarter' ?
[03:59] <frogzoo> tuqann: the http_proxy variable can be set through sys -> prefs -> network - that can trip you up
[03:59] <oskude> malt: did you try iptraf ? (i have to admin, havent used/needed it for a while)
[04:00] <lafielle> That appears to be what's listed in the launcher icon's properties.
[04:00] <LjL> dv5237: in that case, use "x-window-system" instead
[04:00] <kkaisare> Does anyone use galeon or epiphany here?
[04:00] <Renu_> tarzeau hoto use tvtime?
[04:00] <adaptr> malt: dozens
[04:00] <Renu_> where is it?
[04:00] <frogzoo> lafielle: nope - just click the box that says autostart
[04:00] <tuqann> okay, finally worked
[04:00] <dv5237> LjL: ok will do
[04:00] <unimatrix9> tvtime needs to be installed
[04:00] <snakeman> how can I connect to my WPA access point?
[04:00] <Renu_> ok
[04:00] <tuqann> I have no idea when the terminal decides to take it or not, but for whatever reason now it works
[04:00] <LjL> tuqann: i'd restart X (just to be very sure...) and check that it still works. if it doesn't, it means the proxy settings are still there in some file or another
[04:01] <tuqann> let's just hope that the next time I want to setup the proxy it won't be as bad!
[04:01] <lafielle> frogzoo: in firestarter or in the session manager?
[04:01] <tuqann> thanks for the help a million
[04:01] <tuqann> have a nice day
[04:01] <lafielle> frogzoo: clicking add leads to a browse button.
[04:01] <frogzoo> tuqann: the terminal inherits the gnome http_proxy env variable - once you set it, new terminals will inherit it
[04:01] <dv5237> LjL: couldnt find that either..
[04:01] <dv5237> LjL: i cant find xserver-xorg though
[04:01] <dv5237> s/cant/can
[04:01] <testsusf> frogzoo so if you did take a look.. i'll ask you again.. from where does thouse 2 files come from
[04:02] <frogzoo> lafielle: it's in firestarters options - to autostart (but it will start iptables at boot, even when the gui's not showing)
[04:02] <LjL> dv5237: uhm what the heck... let me look around a bit. i'm on edgy myself :\
[04:02] <lafielle> frogzoo: ah, I'll have another look. Thanks.
[04:02] <testsusf> i mean,, from where do they come | make  from
[04:02] <tuqann> thanks fo rhte tip
[04:02] <tuqann> I'll write that somewhere for future references
[04:02] <dv5237> LjL: sure thanks for looking.. i can find x-window-sytem-core...
[04:03] <lafielle> frogzoo: firestarter options has a 'start firewall on program start up'; nothing related to 'system startup' from what I can see.
[04:04] <malt> i just want something simple where i type a command and it shows me current down speed traffic and current upload speed traffic
[04:04] <frogzoo> lafielle: that will do fine  - that's just to create the icon in gnome
[04:04] <tuxub> hi, is it possible to add a new custom location to gnome weather
[04:05] <frogzoo> tuxub: right click -> prefs -> location
[04:05] <tuxub> frogzoo, that locations are fixed...
[04:05] <yuv656> malt: install nload from synaptic, and then type nload at the terminal
[04:05] <frogzoo> tuxub: well then you'll need to read the code
[04:05] <tuxub> frogzoo, i need to add a new one that is supported by weather.com...
[04:06] <lafielle> frogzoo: hmm, so I don't actually need firestarter to be running for preexisting rules to be enabled?
[04:06] <oskude> malt: sorry, ive only used iptraf... maybe you can get that with "netstat" or catting something in /proc/net
[04:06] <LjL> dv5237: i think your best bet is x-window-system-core -- though that's weird enough
[04:06] <yuv656> malt: nload will do the trick
[04:06] <lafielle> frogzoo: in other words, I only need firestarter to change rules (not to actually run the firewall)
[04:06] <lafielle> ?
[04:06] <tuxub> frogzoo, you mean, reading the source code and recompiling the app?
[04:06] <frogzoo> lafielle: the way to check is, without logging into gnome, from a terminal try 'sudo iptables -v' & you'll see a bunch of rules if the firewall is working
[04:07] <LjL> dv5237: i can tell you that there's no other package which depends on xbase-clients (which is the very basic X programs), so that must be the most complete X metapackage in Dapper
[04:07] <frogzoo> tuxub: I doubt recompiling's necessary, it's probly a python app
[04:07] <lafielle> frogzoo: ok, thanks.
[04:07] <Balachmar> Hi, can someone help me to find to cause of system crashes? I suspect a hardware problem
[04:07] <Balachmar> But I don't now how to locate it
[04:08] <frogzoo> Balachmar: first check /var/log/messages
[04:08] <dv5237> LjL: what xbase-clients or x-window-system-core?
[04:08] <LjL> dv5237: x-window-system-core provides xbase-clients, so i think you should install x-window-system-core
[04:08] <LjL> dv5237: that x-window-system-core exists while x-window-system doesn't feels weird to me... but oh well
[04:09] <Canopus> Hi all
[04:09] <Canopus> can anyone tell me how to mount other partitions when in rescue mode
[04:09] <dv5237> LjL: i configered xorg.conf but how can i start x? startx command not found
[04:09] <malt> yuv656: what is the command for nload
[04:09] <malt> once installed
[04:09] <yuv656> malt: nload
[04:09] <malt> oh i see
[04:09] <malt> lol
[04:10] <ollekalle> question: anyone know a good quide for tweaking tv-out performance?
[04:10] <LjL> dv5237: if you install x-window-system-core, you will get startx
[04:10] <mutu310> How do I change my keyboard input language please?
[04:11] <frogzoo> Canopus: 1st mount / rw  'mount -o remount,rw /'   then you should be able to just 'mount /var' or whatever
[04:11] <tuxub> frogzoo, i found this /usr/share/gnome-applets/gweather/Locations.xml
[04:11] <tuxub> frogzoo, maybe its this ;)
[04:11] <dv5237> LjL: ok will do now..
[04:11] <dv5237> LjL: do i need to config xorg.conf myself or will it be done?
[04:12] <LjL> dv5237: these are the packages that x-window-system-core adds to a simply xserver-xorg: http://apt.byethost14.com/?repo=Dapper&arch=i386&package=x-window-system-core&have=xserver-xorg  <- if you look, there's 'xinit' cited. that provides startx (you can see there are also fonts and the basic X libraries)
[04:12] <Canopus> forgzoo: you mean 1st mount -o remount, rw / and then mount /boot
[04:12] <LjL> dv5237: i think it'll be done automatically - but you said you already made one, so i don't think it'll be touched again
[04:12] <LjL> dv5237: you can always do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:12] <dv5237> LjL: ok nice thanks
[04:14] <frogzoo> Canopus: if you have a separate /boot
[04:14] <dv5237> LjL: ill keep you updated :)
[04:14] <Canopus> ok
[04:14] <Canopus> thanks
[04:14] <phildard> hello
[04:14] <phildard> al
[04:15] <unimatrix9> hi
[04:15] <GreyGhost> !hi
[04:15] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:15] <phildard> i have just install ubuntu
[04:15] <lafielle> q3: This system is a sempron box with 384 MB RAM and has an S3 trio onboard graphics chipset (VIA). The graphics are generally sluggish. The card appears to have been detected OK, but do I have to enable 3D support or something?
[04:15] <phildard> with the alternate version
[04:15] <lafielle> Pardon my ignorance, but I'm new to all this..
[04:15] <GreyGhost> phildard ,yes?
[04:15] <phildard> but i gnome no lauch
[04:16] <tuqann> exit byebye
[04:16] <phildard> and i'm in text mode
[04:16] <GreyGhost> lafielle , glxinfo | grep renderer
[04:16] <Balachmar> What is the difference between the alternate and the desktop cd?
[04:16] <Balachmar> Because I have read that sometimes the alternate is better?
[04:16] <phildard> and my question is how to install gnome in text mode?
[04:16] <oskude> !alternate > Balachmar
[04:16] <zeeed> hi, I have problem with iptables, I put iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT in start script, but I still can't be pinged :( why?
[04:16] <unimatrix9> lafielle s3 trio is not an very nice video card, if you could it would be nicer to get an second hand nvidia card for a few bucks, or maybe some one you know has one in an drawer somewhere
[04:17] <phildard> i have already install with apt-get, gdm and xorg
[04:17] <faeryNatsuki> hello
[04:17] <unimatrix9> the s3 runs even bad on xp
[04:17] <GreyGhost> phildard ,even with alterante GNOM<E should install ... it did for me atleast...
[04:17] <minerale> apt-cache & apt-get are giving me seg faults, I ran a strace and they seem to be dying at this line: "stat64("/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_main_binary-i386_Packages", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=5491154, ...}) = 0" -- anyone know what it means ?
[04:17] <faeryNatsuki> how can i make kde sound system starts at beginning of system? it's not working ind cuirrntly i have to do it manually
[04:17] <oskude> zeeed: afaik, ping is not rejected by ubuntu as default...
[04:17] <lafielle> GreyGhost: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46
[04:17] <lafielle> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI UniChrome (K8M800) 20060710
[04:17] <GreyGhost> !alternate | Balachmar
[04:17] <ubotu> Balachmar: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:18] <lafielle> unimatrix9: Yes, I'm aware of that; But  this is something of a low budget system :)
[04:18] <zeeed> oskude: yeap by default maybe, but I change iptables policy
[04:18] <GreyGhost> lafielle ,taht ur 3d card ?
[04:18] <GreyGhost> UniChrome (K8M800) 20060710 ?
[04:18] <phildard> but when i lauch gmd, gdm, can't find my profile
[04:18] <lafielle> GreyGhost: It's supposed to be an S3Trio. I don't know much more than that.
[04:18] <zeeed> oskude: line: iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT
[04:19] <zeeed> oskude: should let others to ping me
[04:19] <LjL> minerale: uhm perhaps try "sudo apt-cache gencaches" and/or "sudo apt-get check"
[04:19] <lafielle> lafielle: But I might be wrong.
[04:19] <oskude> zeeed: i never used/needed iptables, so dunno, sorry
[04:19] <zeeed> oskude: ok
[04:19] <zeeed> anyone know iptables?
[04:19] <lafielle> GreyGhost: But I might be wrong.
[04:19] <LjL> !iptables | zeeed
[04:19] <ubotu> zeeed: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:20] <whyameye> I'm a bit confused about user auth and password for NFS...
[04:20] <GreyGhost> lafielle ,hmm.... i'm not really aware of graphic cards myself :( i have onboard ....
[04:20] <minerale>  ljl gencaches seg faults as well, ditto for check
[04:20] <zeeed> ubotu: i have problem with ping, I let thers to ping me using iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT but they still cant ping me
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i have problem with ping, I let thers to ping me using iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT but they still cant ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <lafielle> GreyGhost: Device manager states "S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter". So that looks about right.
[04:20] <spitz> I've got an Intel Core Duo, should I install 32 or 64 bit fglrx driver?
[04:21] <GreyGhost> lafielle ,yep most prolly u do have supprt....
[04:21] <zeeed> LjL: i have problem with ping, i use iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT in iptables script but I still can't be pinged :( why?
[04:21] <GreyGhost> *but i'm not sure ...
[04:21] <oskude> zeeed: just a guess, do you need that "-i eth0" ? or what ever interface you want...
[04:21] <lafielle> GreyGhost: So, does that look all OK to you
[04:21] <lafielle> ?
[04:21] <GreyGhost> lafielle ,run glxgears ?
[04:21] <LjL> zeeed: you don't happen to be behind a router that blocks pings itself?  also, do you have any *other* iptables rules set?
[04:21] <lafielle> GreyGhost: I don't know what that means, sorry.
[04:21] <GreyGhost> lafielle , i meant run the command glxgears
[04:21] <zeeed> LjL: router may block all pings?
[04:22] <A-L-A-R-M> if i want to isntall the mplayer (hq) i do apt-get install mplayer ?
[04:22] <GreyGhost> lafielle , i myself am pretty new... if i'm not able to help ,... u can always wait around for experienced users... ;)
[04:22] <LjL> zeeed: routers may do many things... what i can tell you for sure is that ubuntu does *not* block pings (or anything, actually) by default, unless you tell it to
[04:22] <Rookie_> before a new rule in iptables can be created you have to flush the rules
[04:22] <zeeed> oskude: i think no, it's general policy, it include all interfaces
[04:22] <Henning> question
[04:22] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: on edgy, yes. on dapper, "apt-cache search mplayer"
[04:23] <zeeed> LjL: i tell ubuntu to pass all pings, but it doesn't listen me :P
[04:23] <lafielle> GreyGhost: It appears to be running. But I got the same warning: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46
[04:23] <oskude> zeeed: roger... so you got a rule that rejects _all_ connections and you open which you need ?
[04:23] <Henning> how do i change the screen resolution to 1280 by 1024 in the LIVE cd?
[04:23] <lafielle> GreyGhost: No, you've been very helpful, thanks :)
[04:23] <zeeed> oskude: yeap
[04:23] <A-L-A-R-M> LjL:  excuse me, i am a begginer what is edgy and what dapper and how can i know on which one i am ?
[04:23] <foresth> ahoy
[04:23] <LjL> minerale: run an "apt-get update" under gdb - do a "where" after it segfaults - and pastebin the whole output
[04:23] <unimatrix9> lafielle do you know the type of the card?
[04:23] <GreyGhost> lafielle ,its running and its smooth?
[04:23] <orasis> Henning, Preferences screen resolution - but you may not be able to do it - since of course the LIVE CD, is running off deafault.. "Safe" drivers.
[04:23] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: Edgy Eft is Ubuntu 6.10, Dapper Drake is Ubuntu 6.06
[04:23] <orasis> default* even.
[04:23] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: to know which one you're using, lsb_release -a
[04:24] <A-L-A-R-M> i got ubuntu 6.1
[04:24] <zeeed> LjL: i check my router and then I cam to tell what is going on
[04:24] <oskude> zeeed: just cause of paranoia or do you have a reason for that ? but for test, i would remove that rule to see if its ubuntu or your router that rejects ping...
[04:24] <Henning> orasis, is there any....terminal way to change it?
[04:24] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: 6.10, not 6.1 - Ubuntu version numbers are actually dates
[04:24] <zeeed> oskude: ok
[04:24] <frogzoo> A-L-A-R-M: 6.10 10 = october release
[04:24] <zeeed> oskude: i;m going for tests
[04:24] <orasis> Henning, No unless it's actually installed.. you cannot really modify XORG on a read only media..
[04:24] <lafielle> unimatrix9: onboard - VIA chipset (gigabyte). I'm pretty sure that it's an S3.
[04:24] <A-L-A-R-M> ok :)
[04:24] <orasis> Henning You would need to burn your own copy, and basically rewrite the xorg.conf file with the best drivers :)
[04:25] <lafielle> GreyGhost: it's not smooth right now; but that's not surprising as Azureus is running a check on a torrent.
[04:25] <Henning> yeah a linux-savvy friend told me to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf but I couldn't save it
[04:25] <lafielle> GreyGhost: Which incidentally is taking *ages*
[04:25] <unimatrix9> lafielle do an lspci on the shell ( console )
[04:25] <Henning> but how would i go about it if i actually had it installed?
[04:25] <unimatrix9> and see what it lists
[04:25] <GreyGhost> ahh... k ...
[04:25] <LjL> Henning: you need to be root, to modify that file
[04:25] <whyameye> how do I configure user authentication for NFS?
[04:25] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Henning about root | Henning, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:25] <Henning> okay
[04:25] <orasis> Henning, Well of course not - A cd is read only, and of course the whole "LIVE" part takes place in ram.. so umm yeah.
[04:25] <A-L-A-R-M> LjL:  i get following: E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[04:25] <Henning> i know what root is, though
[04:25] <mulima> frequency sclaing support has gone ... do you know how to reenable / reconfigure it ?
[04:25] <A-L-A-R-M> that means i got to compile it ?
[04:25] <LjL> Henning: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- however, depending on what you're trying to do, a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" might be a better idea
[04:26] <orasis> Henning, After you install PROPER video drivers - you click "system -> preferences -> screen resolution" :)
[04:26] <LjL> !info mplayer edgy | A-L-A-R-M
[04:26] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[04:26] <stefg> !universe > A-L-A-R-M
[04:26] <oskude> !nfs | whyameye
[04:26] <ubotu> whyameye: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:26] <Henning> and where do i get PROPER video drivers for an ATI radeon 9200? :)
[04:26] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: no. if i'm saying it's there, it means it's there, i'm not inventing things without checking ;-)
[04:26] <orasis> LjL He wants to change res on the LIVE cd... while its running live not installed.
[04:26] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: you need to enable universe
[04:26] <orasis> Some video cards do not support that under the safe drivers
[04:26] <lafielle> unimatrix9: http://pastebin.us/10176 is what I see.
[04:26] <unimatrix9> ok
[04:27] <Henning> yeah okay, so i've made my peace with 1024 on LIVE
[04:27] <frogzoo> Henning: well you can get burnt at the stake for recommending proprietary drivers, but fglrx will run that fine
[04:27] <A-L-A-R-M> okie thanks
[04:27] <bluk> hi there; I can't play sound anymore on Ubuntu Drapper Drake, tho the sound seems to be passed to the soundcard (equalizer is moving); and volume is not muted... any help?
[04:27] <LjL> orasis: i think that's possible. the live cd is set up in a way that you *can* modify files (although, of course, they won't survive a reboot)
[04:27] <orasis> Henning You get the fglrx drivers from synaptic :)
[04:27] <mutu310> How do I change my keyboard input language in xubuntu please?
[04:27] <Henning> but if i was to install it, could i get those drivers and they'd work?
[04:27] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: wait, i meant multiverse actually (well, enable both)
[04:27] <Henning> and if not, is there anything that could go wrong with the wrong drivers?
[04:27] <frogzoo> mutu310: sys -> prefs -> keyboard
[04:27] <orasis> LjL, I have tryed before - the xorg simply starts to go nuts on ram and basically dies, might as well do a full install ;)
[04:27] <A-L-A-R-M> to enable it i have to add the url in the repo file ?
[04:28] <A-L-A-R-M> ohh sorry
[04:28] <A-L-A-R-M> there is a help file
[04:28] <orasis> Henning, Well you will have to change drivers thats about it hah
[04:28] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: that is a way, yes. but you may also use Synaptic, or Adept if you're on KDE
[04:28] <A-L-A-R-M> didnt see it
[04:28] <frogzoo> Henning: wrong drivers can cause generla chaos, or just not load
[04:28] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: i usually do it from the command line by editing /etc/apt/sources.list though, yes
[04:28] <Henning> frogzoo: so i'd have to reinstall or anything IF i installed the wrong ones?
[04:28] <A-L-A-R-M> i am on kde, but didnt find anything in there about mplayer either with the package manager
[04:28] <bluk> notice: lspci still shows the soundcard; lsmod stills shows snd_ devices
[04:28] <selinuxium> hi, is it possible to search through a dictionary for words containing a certain seed?
[04:28] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: however you do it, make sure you enable universe and multiverse *not only* in the "edgy" repository, but also in the "edgy-updates" and "edgy-security" repositories
[04:29] <LjL> Ubotu, tell A-L-A-R-M about easysource | A-L-A-R-M, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:29] <orasis> Henning, Naw you'd be sent back to console thats all.
[04:29] <Henning> okay
[04:29] <Henning> so i can install proper drivers from there?
[04:29] <orasis> Henning, If you want to play it safe with minimal problems until you get the feel - just put "radeon" as your driver.
[04:29] <A-L-A-R-M> thank you
[04:29] <whyameye> oskude: yes I've looked that over and user authentication still isn't clear to me.
[04:29] <A-L-A-R-M> i will try to figure out things :)
[04:29] <NeF> hey, if i wanted to play games on a linux box, would it be better to use ubuntu or xubuntu
[04:30] <Henning> where do i put radeon as my driver?
[04:30] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M, even in the package manager (Adept) you still do need to add the relevant components (universe and multiverse)
[04:30] <Stormx2> NeF: It wouldn't matter.
[04:30] <orasis> Henning Open /etc/X11/xorg - find the "device" section, and rather then "ati" -- replace it with "radeon" -- ctrl-alt-backspace, finito.
[04:30] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: if you use that source-o-matic page, it will generate a sources.list for you
[04:30] <lafielle> Q4: The tray icon in Azureus doesn't appear in my launch panel. Is this a configuration issue or a bug
[04:30] <orasis> xorg.conf*
[04:30] <justpaul> !easysource
[04:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[04:30] <Henning> thanks
[04:30] <lafielle> ?
[04:30] <Stormx2> NeF: If your system is low of resources xfce might give you a bit of an advantage
[04:30] <Stormx2> s/on/of
[04:30] <oskude> whyameye: afaik, it uses the user privileges on the host...
[04:30] <A-L-A-R-M> okie
[04:30] <orasis> Fluxbox, will give you an ever bigger advantage :D
[04:31] <NeF> cool, thats Stormx2
[04:31] <NeF> :D
[04:31] <Henning> you know the thing is i wouldn't install it on this particular system because it's a mac, but on another pc that basically consists of on-board stuff
[04:31] <NeF> thanks******
[04:31] <NeF> :P
[04:31] <orasis> Henning, Good luck with the sound :P
[04:31] <Henning> yeah
[04:31] <Henning> installed xubuntu once on that
[04:31] <orasis> Onboard sound + Linux, usually = pain in the rear end.
[04:31] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: err... not sure whether justpaul was just checking, or making a point - but he does bring up a point :-) at any rate, if you decide to use source-o-matic, you can just change every occurrence of "dapper" into "edgy"
[04:31] <Henning> no chance
[04:31] <Stormx2> NeF: remember that not all games run in ubuntu well / at all
[04:31] <whyameye> oskude: I just don't get it. When I mount from the client, how is my authentication checked and how would I set this up?
[04:31] <oskude> whyameye: that means if you mount a nfs with user "foobar", the machine that is serving the nfs has to have a user named "foobar"
[04:31] <Henning> orasis: that's why i deinstalled xubuntu
[04:32] <bluk> my sound disappeared suddently :( even the ubuntu box doesnt play them anymore at login/out
[04:32] <Henning> well, that and the printer
[04:32] <minerale> ljl: how do I give arguments to programs under gdb? - gdb apt-cache search test  -> simply runs apt-cache
[04:32] <NeF> Stormx2 : which linux works the best with games then?
[04:32] <orasis> Henning Naw you can get it working, but you'll probably have to modify your own stuff
[04:32] <oskude> whyameye: it uses the uses name that is logged on (on the machine you want to mount the nfs)
[04:32] <orasis> I had to do the same for my sound because it's onboard..
[04:32] <Stormx2> NeF: They're all about the same. What games are you looking to play?
[04:32] <LjL> minerale: 1) sudo -i  (needs to be run as root)  2) gdb apt-cache  3) run search test  4) where
[04:32] <whyameye> oskude: so you just have to know the name of the user? No password?
[04:32] <orasis> But I did not mind because my onboard sound performs better then my stand alone card anyways :))
[04:32] <Henning> orasis, i would call myself "computer-savvy" but when it comes to linux, i'm a total newbie
[04:32] <Henning> that's where the problem is
[04:32] <NeF> Stormx2 : Savage and warcraft 3
[04:33] <orasis> Henning, Everyone does.. ;D
[04:33] <Henning> okay, but thanks for helping
[04:33] <orasis> yup
[04:33] <LjL> minerale: when you're finished, "exit" to come back from the root login
[04:33] <unimatrix9> lafielle i did take an good look at your card , but there seems to be no driver that i can find for it to help out
[04:33] <Stormx2> NeF: have a look at http://appdb.winehq.org and also their websites. They may run under ubuntu natively or you may need to emulate windows (thats what WINE does)
[04:33] <oskude> whyameye: no, you need the password of that user too (or maybe it even has to be the same on both machines) sorry, didnt start use nfs cause of these, had to go to samba...
[04:33] <bluk> orasis maybe you can help me, i have onboard soundchip too (cmi8738) any chance it happened to you?
[04:33] <orasis> NeF, Warcraft 3 runs PERFECT under Cedega :)
[04:33] <LjL> !warcraft | NeF
[04:33] <ubotu> NeF: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:33] <Stormx2> Henning: What is the issue?
[04:33] <Newbie> where is my /path/to/kernel/source/tree
[04:34] <orasis> Warcraft 3, does not really work nice under wine, only Wine X (Cedega)
[04:34] <minerale> ljl: i'm in the console, can't copy paste at this moment (hold on I need to start up screen) but it's segfaulting in strlen() -> string compare -> debPackagesIndex::findincache()
[04:34] <Henning> Stomrx2, what issue?
[04:34] <LjL> Newbie: unless you installed the kernel source, it's probably not there ;-) what you trying to do?
[04:34] <orasis> bluk I have an ess sound drive, but perhaps its close to the same
[04:34] <Newbie> tv on ubuntu
[04:34] <Newbie> installing a tv card
[04:34] <NeF> ty orasis LjL and Stormx2
[04:34] <KenSentMe> How can i get a list of packages i installed from a certain repository in cli?
[04:34] <orasis> bluk --- xfceubuntu.blogspot.com --- it has some tips for getting on board sound working, give it a shot
[04:35] <bluk> thanks orasis
[04:35] <orasis> bluk OH and remember after the word "options" enter.. new line
[04:35] <LjL> minerale: which still seems like pointing to some problem with that Packages file that you mentioned above from the strace output...
[04:35] <bluk> okay:)
[04:35] <george> I just installed pygame through synaptic but when I run some tuts from the IDLE it says "module not found"
[04:35] <LjL> minerale: i suggest that you take that file, remove it (after backing it up to somewhere else), and try an apt-get update again
[04:35] <orasis> :] 
[04:35] <oskude> whyameye: wait, it sais it uses UID, thats even worse :/ so that means the username you log in in client has to have the same UID on the server :/
[04:35] <LjL> minerale: and *even if* that solves the issue, it'd probably be best to run a memtest (can be done from the boot menu) and a "smartctl -A /dev/yourHD" to make sure there is no hardware problem
[04:36] <unimatrix9> is there an 3D driver for this onboard card VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter
[04:36] <unimatrix9> ?
[04:36] <orasis> unimatrix9 3D accelerated? - no.
[04:36] <unimatrix9> okey
[04:36] <unimatrix9> so bad eh?
[04:36] <whyameye> oskude: this just sound like the root for me. I wish I could get sshfs to work...
[04:36] <orasis> unimatrix9 I do not even think that is 3d "accelerated" under window even.
[04:36] <gizmo_the_great1> frogzoo: not sure if u still there, but in the end I just re-formatted the drive and recopied the data to it, and now it's less the wastebacket junk. Was just taking me too long to do a simple copy backup procedure.
[04:36] <unimatrix9> you might be very right! :P
[04:36] <orasis> It will probably do software 3d though.. that's about it.
[04:36] <orasis> :P
[04:37] <TLE> yuv656: Hey I just saw your twinview question, have you been answered ?
[04:37] <unimatrix9> where can i find the ubuntu tutorails / handbook ( forgot the url )
[04:37] <Jowi> unimatrix9, not sure about the S3 one, but unichrome is supported. I use accelerated 3D with the "via" xorg driver.
[04:37] <Stormx2> unimatrix9: wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:38] <A-L-A-R-M> well in sourc o matic there is no edgy but hoary breezy  dapper. so how to generate the list ?
[04:38] <orasis> Jowi ? O_o
[04:38] <orasis> really?
[04:38] <oskude> whyameye: well, you just have to make sure the user that you use to mount the nfs has the same "User ID" on the client _and_ on the server...
[04:38] <orasis> Push it to the limits huh heh
[04:38] <Jowi> orasis, yeah. got a CLE266 chipset
[04:38] <Stormx2> A-L-A-R-M: Just generate it, then do a find + replace. dapper --> edgy
[04:38] <oskude> whyameye: and, the user has to have rights to read/write that dir, of course...
[04:38] <Jowi> on one of my via mini itx machines
[04:38] <salty-horse> hi do i need special permissions to mark a bug as "confirmed" in launchpad?
[04:38] <Jowi> unimatrix9, check which chipset it uses
[04:39] <A-L-A-R-M> replace u mean to rename the list ?
[04:39] <Jowi> unimatrix9, CLE266 is working with the "via" driver
[04:39] <whyameye> oskude: that sounds so clumsy. What if different people with different computers want to share a disk? I must be misunderstanding...
[04:39] <whyameye> oskude: they all have to log into their own machine first with the same UID?
[04:39] <unimatrix9> i was asking for someone else in here, lafielle
[04:39] <orasis> unimatrix9 If you need to know the chipset.. --- "lspci"
[04:39] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: i told you - in the list you get, replace every "dapper" word with "edgy". you can do a search&replace from your favorite text editor
[04:39] <unimatrix9> VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter
[04:39] <unimatrix9> chipset
[04:40] <oskude> whyameye: yeah, it is "clumsy"... thats why even linux "wizards" are "forced" to use sambe :/
[04:40] <A-L-A-R-M> got it
[04:40] <oskude> whyameye: *samba
[04:40] <orasis> unimatrix9 Ok well anyways to find out if you have 3d direct accel...
[04:40] <KenSentMe> How can i get a list of packages i installed from a certain repository in cli?
[04:40] <orasis> unimatrix9 ... glxinfo | grep render
[04:40] <Renu_> the box of the tvtuner show me to be a palb/g
[04:40] <oskude> whyameye: or you have the same username and uid on the server for every user that wants to use the nfs
[04:40] <orasis> KenSentMe "aptitude"
[04:40] <whyameye> oskude: do you know anything about sshfs? It is not mysteriously working for me. I'm not sure how good a solution it is though.
[04:40] <Renu_> or pal d/k
[04:40] <unimatrix9> ok thnx
[04:41] <fuffe> I need Internet Explorer
[04:41] <oskude> whyameye: never even heard :)
[04:41] <KenSentMe> orasis:  can you give me a lead on what function to use?
[04:41] <orasis> fuffe Why?.. wow
[04:41] <whyameye> !sshfs
[04:41] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:41] <Renu_> what should i choose on source for tvtuner?
[04:41] <orasis> KenSentMe Well it's pretty much self explanatory, "installed" packages etc -- its basically the same as synaptic without graphics
[04:41] <fuffe> orasis, I'm a webmaster, I need to check if my site works with explorer
[04:41] <stefg> fuffe: then either go and buy crossoveroffice, or set up a virtual windows machine in vmware-player
[04:41] <orasis> fuffe So boot up a windows PC.. or ask a friend?
[04:42] <oskude> whyameye: but seems interesting, ill give it a go...
[04:42] <orasis> fuffe .. or Install IE 6.. with WINE
[04:42] <Launchpadd> Does anyone here use VLC player in ubuntu 6.06?
[04:42] <KenSentMe> orasis: but i want a list of packages that come from repository x
[04:42] <stefg> IE6 in wine doesn't really work
[04:42] <A-L-A-R-M> does the list have to be saved somewhere ?
[04:42] <whyameye> oskude: there are a lot of hits on Google with people having trouble with writes. The other thing...I think I read that it actually stores the files locally as well?
[04:42] <orasis> KenSentMe ahh ok ok - not sure how to do that
[04:42] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: err... yes. in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:42] <bluk> orasis: thanks got da sound back :)
[04:42] <orasis> stefg, works fine for me.. except for like active x stuff
[04:42] <orasis> bluk :] 
[04:43] <A-L-A-R-M> okie. thanks
[04:43] <bluk> have a good day :)
[04:43] <unimatrix9> Renu_ input configuration / change video source Television
[04:43] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: as root
[04:43] <minerale> ljl: (sorry I had to reboot) here's the pastebin: http://code.bulix.org/mft40c-26408
[04:43] <A-L-A-R-M> sure
[04:43] <jones20992> what would cause a edgy to freeze when on the live cd ?
[04:43] <oskude> whyameye: which one ? nfs ? samba ? sshfs ?
[04:43] <whyameye> oskude: sshfs.
[04:43] <Launchpadd> jones20992: maybe a scratch on the cd
[04:43] <unimatrix9> jones20992 , bad cdrom, low ram, etc
[04:43] <Launchpadd> cd rom bad, low ram, cd bad
[04:44] <orasis> stefg But of course you need to do some ... tweaking, IE6 does not work on Wine vanilla..
[04:44] <Jowi> unimatrix9, btw, are you using the s3 or the via driver?
[04:44] <frogzoo> jones20992: maybe try disabling acpi
[04:44] <jones20992> unimatrix9 how much ram should i need ?
[04:44] <Launchpadd> frogzoo:  what is acpi?
[04:44] <LjL> minerale: (repeating previous comments, not sure you've seen them - they still apply anyway)
[04:44] <LjL> minerale: which still seems like pointing to some problem with that Packages file that you mentioned above from the strace output...
[04:44] <frogzoo> Launchpadd: acpi = power management
[04:44] <LjL> minerale: i suggest that you take that file, remove it (after backing it up to somewhere else), and try an apt-get update again
[04:44] <jones20992> frogzoo whats the cmd for that ?
[04:44] <LjL> minerale: and *even if* that solves the issue, it'd probably be best to run a memtest (can be done from the boot menu) and a "smartctl -A /dev/yourHD" to make sure there is no hardware problem
[04:44] <A-L-A-R-M> LjL:  just noticed on the allready excisting list file that there are : # deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe . so instead of replacing or adding in the file. shouldnt i just remove the "#" ?
[04:44] <unimatrix9> 512 would be fine
[04:45] <jones20992> unimatrix9 i only have 256
[04:45] <unimatrix9> jowi, no i was asking for some one else
[04:45] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: of course, you can do that... source-o-matic is just meant to make that easier
[04:45] <frogzoo> jones20992: you need the boot option 'acpi=off'
[04:45] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: *but* removing the '#' is not quite enough
[04:45] <unimatrix9> jones20992, should be okey but slow
[04:45] <kanedaddy> Hi
[04:45] <aswp`> hi
[04:45] <Jowi> unimatrix9, k k :)
[04:45] <dark-shadow> how do i install jre thru apt-get
[04:45] <dark-shadow> ?
[04:45] <A-L-A-R-M> not enough ? what is more needed /
[04:45] <unimatrix9> jones20992, try boot up and test media
[04:45] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: you also need to 1) enable multiverse (only universe is mentioned there)    2) enable both universe and multiverse also for edgy-updates and edgy-security
[04:45] <dark-shadow> jre (java run env)
[04:45] <Henning> okay, got another question
[04:45] <jones20992> unimatrix9 i did it shows ok
[04:45] <whyameye> from command line how do I find out how much space I am using and have left on my file system?
[04:46] <oskude> whyameye: what error do you get with sshfs ?
[04:46] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: well, mplayer is in multiverse, so enabling universe alone won't quite be very useful
[04:46] <kanedaddy> I'll soon find out
[04:46] <unimatrix9> jones20992, then dont run to many apps at once
[04:46] <frogzoo> whyameye: df -h
[04:46] <aswp`> don't know
[04:46] <unimatrix9> jones20992,  you have got low mem
[04:46] <minerale> ljl: I tried that, it re-downloads the file and then chokes on it
[04:46] <Thuryn> Hello
[04:46] <A-L-A-R-M> all of them are in the file
[04:46] <whyameye> oskude: it is magically working now. I was getting something like "no directory" or something like that when typing ls
[04:46] <A-L-A-R-M> couldnt copy all of them here
[04:46] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: as for the rest (security and updates), if you don't do it you will 1) not get updates  2) risk that packages in the main component get out of sync with the ones in universe and multiverse
[04:46] <ollekalle> q: I have went through the guide for installing mythtv and last item remans "Right click the desktop and log out of the openbox session. At the gdm screen, switch the session to Mythtv". Can anyone quide me on how to follow that instruction?
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> !Lexmark
[04:47] <LjL> Ubotu, tell A-L-A-R-M about paste | A-L-A-R-M, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <thomaslai> hi, I have swapped my CDRW with a DVD writer, but the Aptitude/Apt-Get cannot recognize the "cdrom". How do I configure the dvdrecorder as cdrom?
[04:47] <jones20992> unimatrix9 all i am trying to do is install nothing else
[04:47] <A-L-A-R-M> edgy universe , universe multiverse , edgy security , security universe
[04:47] <LjL> A-L-A-R-M: i doubt that all of them are
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> !cups
[04:47] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:47] <oskude> whyameye: hmm i get permission denied, do i really have to relog to x, isnt relogin in terminal enough ?
[04:47] <Thuryn> ok
[04:48] <whyameye> oskude: i had to log out and relog back in.
[04:48] <jones20992> unimatrix9 all i am trying to do is install nothing else:)
[04:48] <Renu_> unimatrix9 i have change to television but no result
[04:48] <oskude> whyameye: ok... brb
[04:49] <minerale> ljl: found it! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318206
[04:49] <malt> www.m4lt.com/suspect.txt does it look like this ip is trying to attack my server? its making my upload speed go crazy and keeps on and on in netstat and its using something with apache
[04:49] <testsusf> how do i find out how many times a filesystem has been mounted?
[04:49] <george> cant import pygame in python....any clues?
[04:49] <unimatrix9> Renu_ is your tv card detected and linux compatible?
[04:49] <dark-shadow> how do i install jre thru apt-get ?
[04:49] <unimatrix9> Renu_ with lspci you get an list of  all
[04:49] <unimatrix9> pci dev
[04:50] <lafielle> unimatrix9: Thanks for your help :)
[04:50] <dabaR> george: you have python-pygame installed?
[04:50] <unimatrix9> ok
[04:50] <unimatrix9> np
[04:50] <george> dabaR:just installed from synaptic
[04:50] <LinTux> where is the NDWRAPPER directory
[04:50] <lafielle> unimatrix9: for the record, I've been able to play stuff like Tony Hawk with it on Windows. So 3D is definitely supported.
[04:50] <LinTux> where is the ndiswrapper directory
[04:51] <whyameye> LinTux: what are you looking for? config is at /etc/ndiswrapper
[04:51] <oskude> whyameye: hmm, still "fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied" did you have to do anything that was not in the wiki ?
[04:51] <ubuntu_> ubuuntu.pl
[04:51] <george> dabaR: I am trying to run a tutorial so its not a coding mistake
[04:51] <unimatrix9> yes i understand
[04:51] <whyameye> oskude: did you add yourself to the group "fuse"?
[04:51] <oskude> whyameye: yup
[04:51] <whyameye> oskude: lsmod | grep fuse
[04:52] <whyameye> oskude: (making sure the fuse module is actually loaded)
[04:52] <oskude> whyameye: loaded
[04:52] <dabaR> george: do you get an error?
[04:52] <LinTux> sorry whyameye it is not their
[04:52] <n1gke> !mga
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <LjL> minerale: err... you sure that's it? that talks about nvidia... only skimmed around, but haven't seen the segfaulting problem
[04:52] <lafielle> unimatrix9: and glxgears appears to work.. But I don't know if it's using a software renderer for it.
[04:52] <unimatrix9> Renu_ some thing like this 02:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture
[04:52] <george> yes: Traceback (most recent call last):
[04:52] <george>   File "/home/george/Projects/ball.py", line 1, in <module>
[04:52] <george>     import pygame
[04:52] <george> ImportError: No module named pygame
[04:52] <LjL> !paste
[04:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:53] <whyameye> oskude: I followed the directions here: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[04:53] <LinTux> Where is the Ndiswrapper directory
[04:53] <george> sorry for flooding all.....
[04:53] <unimatrix9> lafielle i see
[04:53] <oskude> whyameye: ok, i followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[04:53] <whyameye> LinTux: /etc/ndiswrapper is where it is supposed to be. if it isn't there I think you have an install problem.
[04:53] <A-L-A-R-M> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37587/ the list file
[04:54] <A-L-A-R-M> seems to me that everything is included
[04:54] <A-L-A-R-M> just need to denote the lines and save the file
[04:54] <lafielle> unimatrix9, frogzoo et al. Thanks a lot for your help. I have to run, but I'm sure I'll be back soon :)
[04:54] <oskude> whyameye: btw, are you on dapper or edgy ? im on edgy
[04:54] <lafielle> Cheers!
[04:54] <whyameye> oskude: yes I looked at that after when I was having problems. I'm not sure why mine works suddenly. I'm on dapper.
[04:54] <unimatrix9> cheers
[04:54] <whyameye> oskude: unfortunately I have to go so I guess we have to leave this unresolved...
[04:54] <LinTux> Where is the Ndiswrapper directory
[04:55] <oskude> whyameye: np, im sure ill get it sorted
[04:55] <unimatrix9> i have to go too, night all
[04:55] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:55] <oskude> whyameye: thanks for the sshfs tip1 :)
[04:55] <unimatrix9> !happy tuxing
[04:55] <whyameye> oskude: I'll look for you later and we can compare notes about whether or not this is a good way to go.
[04:55] <ubotu> happy: Parser generator for Haskell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.15-2 (edgy), package size 297 kB, installed size 1296 kB
[04:55] <LinTux> command to install Ndiswrapper in terminal
[04:55] <unimatrix9> hehe
[04:55] <oskude> whyameye: roger
[04:56] <whyameye> oskude: thanks for your help with my understanding of NFS
[04:56] <CaBlGuY> anyone help me install Lexmark drivers?
[04:56] <dabaR> george: here it works after install of python-pygame
[04:56] <george> can u send me a sample code through pastebin to try?
[04:56] <oskude> whyameye: i only know enough to not use nfs :P
[04:56] <LinTux> how do I install Ndiswrapper in terminal#
[04:57] <dabaR> LinTux: sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper
[04:57] <dabaR> george: heh
[04:57] <dabaR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37591/
[04:57] <reverseblade> !ndiswrapper | LinTux
[04:57] <ubotu> LinTux: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:57] <slipttees> ayo....report this bug for me?
[04:58] <george> dabaR: could it be cause I have python 2.4 and 2.5 installed?
[04:58] <slipttees> !paste
[04:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:58] <reverseblade> LinTux, hp pavilion ?
[04:58] <slytherin> Can anyone direct me to appropriate channel for ubuntu on powerpc?
[04:59] <dabaR> george: no idea, but I do not have 2.5 installed.
[04:59] <george> dabaR: it has been installed for 2.4..probably thats the problem
[04:59] <reverseblade> slytherin, powerpc is soo dead :(
[04:59] <dabaR> george: and you are trying to use it with 2.5?
[04:59] <slytherin> reverseblade: What are you talking about architecture, ubuntu on powepc or the channel?
[05:00] <george> well i run through the IDLE and i guess it is set with the 2.5 version
[05:00] <xsacha> hello, im on a laptop with ubuntu edgy and when i start it up, i cant type anything until i change vt's (go to tty1)
[05:00] <spitz> pfft, I'm desperate... Using the 386 kernel I can't get my Intel Core Duo work properly, but with the generic kernel, when I push the 'x' , It keeps printing an x till I push another button. In both kernels, I got fglrx installed, but when I hit fglrxinfo, I get renderer string 'Generic'
[05:00] <dabaR> george: well you have a clue...similar to the hardley boys from south park
[05:00] <slipttees> HELLO
[05:00] <slipttees> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37592/
[05:00] <frogzoo> !fixres | xsacha
[05:00] <ubotu> xsacha: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:00] <slipttees> Bug in gnome-panel
[05:00] <george> dabaR:lol...well thanks mate
[05:01] <slipttees> somebody repost for me?
[05:01] <slipttees> report*
[05:01] <dabaR> :)
[05:01] <xsacha> frogzoo: it's something wrong with my video res? .. i like my video res :(
[05:01] <A-L-A-R-M> after editing the source.list file and enabling universe multiverse. still i get the message : Couldn't find package mplayer
[05:01] <A-L-A-R-M>  , when trying to install mplayer. does anything else need to be made ?
[05:01] <slipttees> gnomefreak: ping
[05:01] <frogzoo> xsacha: you get a blank/black screen?
[05:02] <xsacha> frogzoo: no everything is fine except my keyboard until i change to tty1 and back
[05:02] <frogzoo> xsacha: which keyboard layour ru using?
[05:02] <Canopus> hi all
[05:02] <xsacha> most of my keys give no output, others give random output like continually sending '3's
[05:02] <wmt> hai
[05:02] <xsacha> English US
[05:02] <xsacha> if i switch to tty1 and back though, it works perfectly with same layout
[05:03] <xsacha> i have to do this every time i restart my computer
[05:03] <Canopus> I am trying to mount a partition in rescue mode but when I do mount /dev/had? I get specified device does not exist
[05:04] <tony22> hi! how can i add a command to wait for key in xterm script?
[05:04] <frogzoo> tony22: you can use read, but that will block until CR
[05:04] <Canopus> frogzoo: any advice?
[05:04] <oskude> whyameye: if your still there, i changed /dev/fuse to chmod root:fuse... dunno if thats good but works...
[05:06] <KenSentMe> How can i get a list of packages i installed from a certain repository in cli?
[05:06] <tony22> frogzoo, thanx ill try that, can i run after a command w just ";" or does it need to be in script?
[05:06] <c1ru> hi all there, finally i have working my quake 4 on edgy64^^
[05:06] <frogzoo> tony22: read var ; echo $var
[05:06] <laura100> # ubuntu-de
[05:06] <tony22> thanx!
[05:06] <laura100> #ubuntu-de
[05:07] <c1ru> but now, i have to work for have better perfomance, i have a good graphicd card, but i have problems in 1024 high detail and antialising x4
[05:07] <c1ru> anyone know how i can take more fps
[05:07] <c1ru> i have nvidia drivers
[05:08] <kulbir> is there any way i could executing  commands on system startup?
[05:08] <Canopus> I  am trying to mount a partition in rescue mode but when I do mount /dev/had? I get specified device does not exist
[05:08] <Canopus> anyone ?
[05:08] <laura100> hallo
[05:08] <Henning> !wine
[05:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:08] <Fleebailey33> ever since dual boot i cant get past half way booting linux
[05:08] <laura100> #ubuntu-deu
[05:08] <Fleebailey33> i've tried fiesty, edgy. and now dapper
[05:09] <Fleebailey33> laura100, me?
[05:09] <frogzoo> Fleebailey33: try passing 'acpi=off' as a boot option
[05:09] <Fleebailey33> ok
[05:09] <laura100> no
[05:09] <Hoag> Hey, does anyone know the command to upgrade macromedia flash player?
[05:09] <Fleebailey33> kk
[05:10] <Fleebailey33> frogzoo, ill brb let me try that
[05:10] <oskude> Hoag: fyi: its adobe flash player now ;)
[05:11] <Hoag> oskude: Guah?! Cheers. :P
[05:11] <oskude> Hoag: and the flash player 9 beta seems to work nicely with epiphany (firefox)
[05:11] <Fleebailey33> still hangs at checking file systems
[05:12] <Fleebailey33> is it trying to check the windows partition?
[05:12] <Fleebailey33> frogzoo, ?
[05:12] <frogzoo> Fleebailey33: very possibly - boot doze & run scandisk & try again
[05:12] <Hoag> oskude: Is it in the repositories?
[05:13] <Fleebailey33> i think its grub
[05:13] <laura> #ubuntu-deu
[05:13] <benjamin> Hey! Someone who knows why my laptop can't cool down when i'm running Ubuntu on it. Yesterday it went down with a message saying that my processor had reached 103 degrees :s
[05:13] <Fleebailey33> is there a live lilio cd
[05:13] <oskude> Hoag: not afaik, just get it from adobe, and copy the unpacked file to plugins dir... i think there was a howto for it...
[05:13] <Fleebailey33> lilo
[05:13] <Launchpadd> Hey guys is there away I can make VLC my default movie player when i pop in a disc?
[05:13] <Fleebailey33> windows just gets a black screen
[05:13] <Fleebailey33> 'thats weird
[05:13] <Fleebailey33> becuase it booted in feisty
[05:13] <Fleebailey33> its reconized in grub
[05:14] <Hoag> oskude: Alright, cheers!
[05:14] <Launchpadd> anyone?
[05:14] <Who_> Are there any wireless cards that work out of the box for WEP with Ubuntu?
[05:14] <benjamin> someone who can help ?
[05:15] <wasabi_> Who_: Most do in fact.
[05:15] <rambo3> WEP is like ahving glass door on bankvolt, if anyone want
[05:15] <rambo3> to take from it just kick the glass slitgly
[05:15] <UbnNoob> Launchpad : Chekc under System/Pref./Removable../Multimedia
[05:16] <Launchpadd> thank you ubn
[05:16] <oskude> Hoag: i just copied the libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ ready.
[05:17] <benjamin> Hey! Someone who knows why my laptop can't cool down when i'm running Ubuntu on it. Yesterday it went down with a message saying that my processor had reached 103 degrees :s
[05:17] <Who_> rambo3: yea - I'm not that botherd (but I won't tell you where I live ;) it's for my family's home internet in a very residentia area - I just want glass...MY network uses WPA :P
[05:17] <ajopaul_> any suggested video editor that lets me join/combine avi files?
[05:17] <Fleebailey33> avijoin
[05:17] <Fleebailey33> transcode
[05:17] <Fleebailey33> ajopaul_,
[05:17] <Who_> wasabi_: hmm - using ndiswrapper, or cos OS drivers are getting better?
[05:17] <Fleebailey33> commandline
[05:17] <Fleebailey33> gtranscode
[05:17] <Duesentrieb> benjamin: use top to see what's hogging the cpu
[05:17] <dellorino> any expert to wine plz?
[05:17] <wasabi_> Who_: I don't know a single 802.11b card that doesn't work with open source drivers.
[05:17] <slipttees> ayo
[05:18] <Who_> dellorino: what do you want to do -= I've been using wine quite a bit recenty, gbut I'm NO expert
[05:18] <rambo3> Who_, check ubuntu HW  compatibility list  and this : http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[05:18] <dellorino> i wanna do work my webcam in wine
[05:18] <slipttees> somebody....about this => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37595/
[05:18] <ajopaul_> Fleebailey33, thnx
[05:18] <II`et|Weirdo> Hey, got a question :p my ethernet is slow, but with slow i mean very slow. I checked the internet and they mentioned to disable ipv6 sh!t. So i did it but no improvement. I also played arround with the DNS servers from my ISP but still no greater speeds. Is there a place where i can change the type of my ethernetcard (kind of kernel config screen like in gentoo) ?
[05:18] <wasabi_> dellorino: What program are you running in WIne?
[05:18] <Who_> wasabi: ohh, perhapsI should have clarified I'd like 802.11g
[05:18] <dellorino> eyeballchat
[05:19] <Hoag> oskude: Says I don't have permission.. do I just "sudu mv directory directory" ?
[05:19] <Who_> dellorino: is anything working?
[05:19] <rambo3> !ethtool
[05:19] <ubotu> ethtool: Display or change ethernet card settings. In component main, is important. Version 3-1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 160 kB
[05:19] <dellorino> YES WORK
[05:19] <dellorino> sure
[05:19] <karim> is there a way to prevent windows from getting the focus in gnome ?
[05:19] <dellorino> i have open now
[05:19] <Henning> hey, how do i install WINE?
[05:19] <benjamin> Duesentrieb: no processes running is using more than 4% cpu ?
[05:19] <Sternchen[] > hi together
[05:19] <rambo3> !
[05:20] <oskude> Hoag: yup, /usr/* is owned by root:root, so you have to do "sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/"
[05:20] <dellorino> work all but cam no Who_
[05:20] <Henning> how do i install WINE?
[05:20] <ajopaul_> !wine | Henning
[05:20] <ubotu> Henning: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:20] <xorix> Henning: apt-get install wine
[05:20] <Scorpmoon> why does opening a .kml file while Google Earth is already open, open another instance of Google Earth?
[05:20] <Scorpmoon> it doesn't do so on Windows
[05:20] <slipttees> ??????????
[05:20] <slipttees> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37595/
[05:20] <frogzoo> Henning: wine is in the repos, there's a newer release in the budgetdedicated repo
[05:20] <frogzoo> !wine | Henning
[05:20] <Henning> so the apt-get solves it?
[05:21] <Henning> no more hassle?
[05:21] <Hoag> oskude: Right, time to see if that worked! Thanks. :)
[05:21] <Who_> dellorino: hmm - which application are you trying to use the camera with?
[05:21] <Duesentrieb> benjamin: then it shouldn't overheat. the onlything i can think of would be some acpi thingy that explicitely controlls fan speed, and fails to swicth it on when needed. But that's kind of ulikely, too
[05:21] <dellorino> Who_, my cam work in xawtv
[05:21] <dellorino> and ekiga
[05:22] <deepsa> how i make my cam work i am having integrated camera in my laptop
[05:22] <oskude> Hoag: right click on a flash app, and see if you have "about flash player 9" or something there...
[05:22] <slipttees> http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3603/rtlsz6.png
[05:22] <slipttees> oppsss
[05:22] <slipttees> sorry
[05:22] <Who_> dellorino: http://wiki.winehq.org/MSN_Messenger_webcam_support
[05:22] <Who_> dellorino: could that help?
[05:22] <benjamin> Duesentrieb: that was me guess too. Then i can't do anything about it ? :'(
[05:22] <dellorino> yes i see this whiki
[05:22] <slipttees> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37595/
[05:23] <Duesentrieb> benjamin: sorry, i'm not an expert for this kind of stuff...#
[05:23] <dellorino> i change rechel.dll
[05:23] <oskude> slipttees: who owns the .kde dir ?
[05:23] <Who_> rambo3: you don't have a link to the Ubuntu list do you - or show me the right google search terms...I am having no lukc
[05:23] <benjamin> Duesentrieb: okay, thanks for helping anyway :)
[05:23] <dellorino> ...
[05:24] <Hoag> oskude: Worked a treat, thanks a lot!
[05:24] <oskude> Hoag: roger. youre welcome
[05:24] <Newbie_> who can I copy a "tar.gz" file to "/usr/" from terminal
[05:24] <Who_> dellorino: oh, I missed some of the stuff you wrote cos you didn't add my name in front of it :)
[05:24] <benjamin> Duesentrieb: Do you know if deleting the linux ext3 partition have any effect on windows boot up? With grub and all that stuff..
[05:24] <slipttees> oskude:
[05:25] <slipttees> slipttees@ubuntu:~$ k3b
[05:25] <slipttees> kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied
[05:25] <slipttees> Could not bind to socket '/home/slipttees/.kde/socket-ubuntu/kdeinit__0'
[05:25] <slipttees> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.
[05:25] <slipttees> slipttees@ubuntu:~$
[05:25] <Who_> dellorino: have you tried setting the OS for the application you want to something different?
[05:25] <oskude> !paste | slipttees
[05:25] <ubotu> slipttees: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:25] <dellorino> sorry my english no good
[05:25] <slipttees> oskude: sorry
[05:25] <Aladdin> hallo alle zusammen
[05:25] <Henning> yoa laddin
[05:25] <Who_> dellorino: also try starting the application from the command line after FIRST climbing to the directory you want (this is required by 3 WINE progs I use regularly) - ask if you don't get what I mean :)
[05:25] <oskude> slipttees: that means the user slipttees doesnt have permissions to that dir...
[05:26] <slipttees> =/
[05:26] <Kingsqueak> slipttees: try this  'sudo chown -R slipttees:slipttees /home/slipttees'
[05:26] <dellorino> in setting (in the softwre emulate) i see my cam in device Who_
[05:26] <dellorino> but in preview i no see image
[05:26] <Who_> dellorino: what program
[05:26] <Who_> ?
[05:26] <dellorino> eyeballchat
[05:26] <slipttees> Kingsqueak: :D
[05:27] <slipttees> thanks very much :)
[05:27] <rambo3> !compatibility
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compatibility - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <Kingsqueak> slipttees: that is from running as root most likely
[05:27] <slipttees> but....no edit permicoes ] ..only install k3b
[05:27] <dellorino> who the solution is in winecfg shede libraries???
[05:27] <Kingsqueak> slipttees: with the sudo thing, it's easy to fire things up as root in your user home, then root takes ownership of files
[05:27] <rambo3> Who_, somone knows the right question to list just ask in channel
[05:27] <Who_> dellorino: it may be easier for you to use wengo, which runs natively ) and connects to lots of networks - perhaps the one you need
[05:27] <rambo3> !hwsupport
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hwsupport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <Bakefy> does anyone know how to change the "workgroup" that things are shared to windows?
[05:28] <dellorino> schewengo is same wine?
[05:28] <Kingsqueak> Bakefy: using samba, it's in the config file smb.conf
[05:28] <slipttees> Kingsqueak: :) yeah
[05:28] <dellorino> wengo is same wine?
[05:28] <slipttees> i see
[05:28] <Who_> dellorino no - wengo is a linux program that can do videomessaging like eyeball chat www.wengo.com
[05:29] <Kingsqueak> wengo is pretty cool
[05:29] <Canopus> I want to mount a partition in rescue mode but get specified device does not exist. Help anyone?
[05:29] <KenSentMe> !tell KenSentMe about fax
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <dellorino> wengo work whit eyeball?
[05:30] <Who_> dellorino: I don't know - it works with many networks and open protocols
[05:30] <dellorino> ok i try
[05:32] <Who_> dellorino: also - perhaps try another windows web cam program to see if eyeball or wine is broken :)
[05:32] <Who_> dellorino: good luck :)
[05:32] <Duesentrieb> benjamin: if you have grub active, and delete the partion its on, you can no longer boot. you would need to fix the mbr using a windows install cd or something.
[05:33] <gizmo_the_great1> does any1 here bother with AV software on their Ubuntu machines? And is the primary reason that viruses are not so successful on Linux due to the fact that the root user accounts require manual inputting of the password, unlike Windows where the Admin account is usually open by default?
[05:33] <dellorino> u know another program?
[05:33] <Duesentrieb> benjamin: maybe it would be sufficient to mark the windows partionen as "active" in fdisk.
[05:34] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: it's more involved than that, has to do with how the core of the OS works where in Win, many apps a user runs have core access, linux, not so much
[05:34] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: the av applications for linux are mostly there to filter viruses in email sent through linux to and from Windows clients
[05:34] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: thanks. Do you use AV software yourself on Linux, or is there really no need?
[05:35] <Kingsqueak> I don't use it at all
[05:35] <Kingsqueak> I don't run Windows at all here though
[05:35] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: if you have Windows users, sending and receiving mail through a linux mail server, it's handy/nice to use the av
[05:37] <dv5237> The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-686 linux-restricted-modules-686
[05:37] <dv5237> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[05:37] <dv5237> what can  i do?
[05:37] <Kingsqueak> dv5237: give it a few days, that will just take care of itself most likely
[05:38] <dv5237> Kingsqueak: how come?
[05:38] <zodia1> is it possible to extract RAR with ubuntu?
[05:38] <Kingsqueak> I *think* 'held back' means there are dependencies not yet available, generally when a package is about to be released into the repository
[05:38] <tony22> frogzoo, thanx for the help but read wont hold an "xterm -e" window open, any clues on how to do that?
[05:39] <ubuntuedgy> hi @ all
[05:39] <ubuntuedgy> i need hlp
[05:39] <ubuntuedgy> :D
[05:39] <yuv656> zodia1: http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.6.0.tar.gz
[05:39] <Kingsqueak> tony22: I missed what you are trying to actually accomplish, that might help for a suggestion
[05:39] <ubuntuedgy> i found a thread for diffrent xgl startmethods
[05:39] <ubuntuedgy> a tried some of them
[05:39] <ubuntuedgy> and then
[05:39] <Kingsqueak> tony22: e.g. why do you need to keep an xterm open?
[05:40] <ubuntuedgy> there was one method (changing a symlink so that xgl is standart xserver)
[05:40] <christopherl> installing Activetcl with GUI in root directory while not in terminal, how can get permission to install without using sudo?
[05:40] <tony22> Kingsqueak, running a scrimpt from a file manager, i need to see the results.
[05:40] <ubuntuedgy> i rebooted... xgl wasnt starting
[05:40] <Kingsqueak> tony22: ah, when it runs it's open right, just doesn't stay open?
[05:40] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: no, i have no windows users as such. I have a laptop that has Windows, and I shar a Mozilla Thunderbird profile on a FAT partition between my Linux desktop and my Windows laptop. So perhaps I should install AV just to filter the e-mail, although that said, I have AV software on the Windows laptop anyway?
[05:40] <zodia1> how to use linuxrar?
[05:41] <ubuntuedgy> and i don't know how to enable the old symlink to xserver-xorg
[05:41] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: you only need av on linux if the mail is being sent and received through your own mail server on the linux box, otherwise just use AV on the Windows boxes themselves
[05:41] <tim--> i wouldn't worry about AV, gizmo_the_great1.   viruses are for the other people.
[05:41] <tony22> Kingsqueak, exactly. i tried read - but that doesnt do it. i could try to send output to a file but i would like to see it live too
[05:41] <Kingsqueak> tony22: you would put 'wait' in the script or if a timer is enough   'sleep 30'  for a 30 sec timer
[05:42] <zodia1> how to use linuxrar?
[05:42] <Kingsqueak> tony22: stick either one at the end of the script
[05:43] <Kingsqueak> tony22: iirc 'wait' will require a ctrl-c to close it/stop it
[05:43] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: well it's both really. I can send and receive from either the Windows laptop, or the Linux desktop, using the same Thunderbird profile because it's on a shared FAT partition. So, I could be receiving virus ridden mails on my Linux desktop. But, as we say, in theorythey can't attach the linux box?
[05:43] <tony22> Kingsqueak, thanks, but i need something to wait for an enter... i start the script and often walk away from the computer
[05:43] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: right, a Win virus won't run on linux basically
[05:43] <benjamin> Duesentrieb: If I want to use the windows cd to do the thing it is just doing it by itself ?
[05:43] <Kingsqueak> tony22: then use 'wait'
[05:44] <tony22> wait just gives me a new line directly
[05:44] <stefg> tony22: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#toc10
[05:44] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: yep, but this brings us back to the original query about how Linux specific viruses CAN attach Linux. Do I need protection from them? I realise they mostly written for Windows, but I think some are targetted at Linux?
[05:44] <Duesentrieb> benjamin: no. you may have to pick a "repair" option, or use a recovery console, or some such, depending on your version of windows. But i'm not an expert on that. try googleing for "uninstall grub"
[05:45] <Kingsqueak> tony22: yeah was looking it up, you'll need to stick a loop at the end of the script that waits for input before it exits
[05:45] <LinTux> I keep getting this error, any help would be appreciated "E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127"
[05:45] <benjamin> Duesentrieb: okay, thanks for helping.
[05:45] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: there really aren't any, there are trojans, but you would have to run them as root
[05:45] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: if you don't run your desktop as root, you are pretty safe
[05:46] <tony22> Kingsqueak, stefg thanks! ill try some things.. !!
[05:46] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: ok cool. Obviously I sudo when necessary, but I assume you only mean logging in as root?
[05:46] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: yes, don't ever run generally applications or an X session as root
[05:46] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: as in a web browser, an IRC client etc., shouldn't run them as root
[05:46] <LinTux> Can anyone help me clear this error "E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127"
[05:46] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: thanks very much. OK, I will not bother with any AV then. That simplifies things a bit :-)
[05:47] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: it's one of the nicest things about linux
[05:47] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: switched the wife and kid over a while back, no more constant issues with viruses and spyware
[05:47] <ValMarko> firefox ; Plugins multimedia installed -> No tv streaming, no flash. ? should I reinstall firefox ?
[05:47] <faust_> Anyone here got a good grip on power management and laptops under Linux? I've disabled the screensaver and set the power management to never do anything as long as I'm running on AC, but the screen still goes blank after about ten minutes. Seriously annoying when watching a movie etc.
[05:48] <dellorino> Who_,
[05:48] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: I keep thinking about doing the same thing, but I am still quite new to Linux (using it for everday life for about a year now) and not really confident enough to be able to resolve everything. Sometimes it's just easier to use Windows for certain things.
[05:48] <dellorino> i install wengo
[05:48] <Who_> dellorino: cool
[05:48] <Kingsqueak> faust_: you could disable it in the BIOS if you want
[05:48] <dellorino> but in video preview
[05:48] <Duesentrieb> faust_: i vaguely remember something about a kernel or driver bug that causes that. also some propriatary option you need to set in xorg.conf or something, for some cards.
[05:48] <stefg> faust_: there might be a bios setting for the screen-blanking time
[05:48] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: but as the wife really only surfs the net and access e-mail, I guess I could
[05:48] <dellorino> the preview is black
[05:48] <faeryNatsuki> hello, i need a little help, i need k3b do not eject anything before verify
[05:49] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: takes time, I'm a Windows cripple now, I'm barely functional in it
[05:49] <LinTux> anyone know how to cure this error "E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127"
[05:49] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: i kknow what you mean. I have to use it at work and frequently type / instead \, etc etc
[05:49] <stefg> LinTux: what soes 'sudo apt-get -f install' yield?
[05:50] <knapp_> How can I extract an ISO file or open it (without burning it to a CD-R)?
[05:50] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: I haven't had to use it for work since 2000 and have used it full time at home since '95 so I'm terrible with Win now
[05:50] <faust_> Yeah, I considered the bios thing, but it doesn't happen in Windows, so I'm thinking there must be some way in firmware or software.
[05:50] <Duesentrieb> knapp_: mountiso
[05:50] <dellorino> Who_, my preview is all black.....
[05:50] <faeryNatsuki> how can i tell k3b do not eject anything before verify
[05:50] <faeryNatsuki> ?
[05:50] <knapp_> Thanks
[05:50] <Who_> dellorino: have you tried calling 333?
[05:50] <Kingsqueak> gizmo_the_great1: took me two days to figure out Outlook msg filtering for my Blackberry even, I'm terrible in Windows
[05:50] <stefg> knapp_: sudo mount -o loop ./myiso.iso /mnt B-)
[05:50] <LinTux> I get the following - Reading package lists... Done
[05:50] <LinTux> Building dependency tree
[05:50] <LinTux> Reading state information... Done
[05:50] <LinTux> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:50] <LinTux> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[05:50] <RomanK> Hi there!
[05:50] <LinTux> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:50] <LinTux> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:50] <LinTux> ady@ady-desktop:~$
[05:50] <Who_> has anyone got an m600i mobile phone to connect to linux? It uses symbian OS
[05:50] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: good god. Not surprised you are au fai with Linux then - you got about 10 years on me!
[05:51] <stefg> LinTux: close synaptic
[05:51] <Kingsqueak> it only takes time ;-)
[05:51] <faeryNatsuki> any k3b user here?
[05:51] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: I was using Windows 95 back then I think
[05:51] <Duesentrieb> knapp_: mount -t iso9660 $1 /mnt/iso -o loop
[05:51] <faust_> Who_: Most symbian phones should work just fine using OBEX.
[05:51] <stefg> !paste !Lin
[05:51] <Kingsqueak> 95's registry is what drove me away finally
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste !Lin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <stefg> !paste | LinTux
[05:51] <RomanK> i'm about to buy a Webcam (some usb-cam, nothing so special). What products work well in linux? Are there Companies which deliver OSS-Drivers with their hardware?
[05:51] <ubotu> LinTux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:51] <Who_> faust_: OBEX eh? I will look :)
[05:51] <Kingsqueak> $100 for the MS press book on the registry pissed me off and I found linux
[05:52] <FifaFrazer> Anyone here using ktechlab?
[05:52] <Kingsqueak> RomanK: there is a linux-usb site for webcams, check there carefully
[05:52] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: I know what you mean. And Vista looking at costing about 400 for the ultimate version! Outrageous, when Ubuntu can do it all for...erm...free!
[05:52] <RomanK> Kingsqueak: have you got the URL, so i look at the right page?
[05:52] <max1> hello I've got a question about a common problem: after installing ubuntu server on an old pc (amd k6II) the server doesn't want to boot: when it says 'booting..' it just restarts my pc and keeps doing that...i found it has something to do with i386 or so but i can't find a descent explanation can someone help? thx
[05:52] <Who_> faust_: hmm so it should be a 'just works' thing? seems not.
[05:52] <Kingsqueak> RomanK: 'most' of the Logitech cams work, but it's not a hard rule to just buy one and you will likely have to fiddle with drivers a bit
[05:52] <Kingsqueak> RomanK: gimme a sec
[05:53] <gizmo_the_great1> Kingsqueak: it's been a pleasure. I gotta go now - see you again. Cheers, Ted
[05:53] <LinTux> StefG: It returns the following - Reading package lists... Done
[05:53] <LinTux> Building dependency tree
[05:53] <LinTux> Reading state information... Done
[05:53] <LinTux> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:53] <LinTux> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[05:53] <LinTux> Need to get 0B of archives.
[05:53] <LinTux> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[05:53] <LinTux> Setting up graphviz-cairo (2.8-2) ...
[05:53] <LinTux> /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postinst: 11: dot: not found
[05:53] <LinTux> dpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--configure):
[05:53] <LinTux>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[05:53] <Who_> can anyone help out with a removeable volume that doesn't mount right - I have suspicious dmesg output to show you :)
[05:53] <LinTux> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:53] <LinTux>  graphviz-cairo
[05:53] <stefg> LinTux: please use the pastebin
[05:53] <LinTux> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:53] <Kingsqueak> RomanK: http://www.linux-usb.org/
[05:53] <RomanK> Kingsqueak: do you know wether the logitech-cams need a binary module or wether there are drivers already within the kernel or other OSS-Drivers?
[05:53] <rajiv> hello everyone
[05:53] <stefg> !paste | LinTux
[05:53] <ubotu> LinTux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:54] <rajiv> damn my gnome is all broke in edgy
[05:54] <minerale> my apt-get utility is fu%$ed -- how can I remove packages using dpkg ?
[05:54] <Kingsqueak> RomanK: mine is a QuickCam Messenger, works with opensource kernel module
[05:54] <wickedly_cool> whats up yallllllll
[05:54] <RomanK> ah... looks like the page is describing this :)
[05:54] <Kingsqueak> RomanK: it's a very low quality pic, but it works
[05:54] <RomanK> thx, Kingsqueak, i think i can find the information now :)
[05:54] <Kingsqueak> RomanK: I'd stick to 'working, mostly complete' or 'working' in that list of drivers
[05:55] <|markie|> what is a good ftp daemon
[05:55] <rajiv> is anyone having any trouble with gnome panels
[05:55] <Kingsqueak> RomanK: and beware of the 'exact' model numbers of cams listed, it's important as they change chipsets frequently
[05:55] <max1> please help: E: Could not open lock file .var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:55] <RomanK> yeah, i know... had kinds of those problems before, with other hardware like NICs
[05:55] <stefg> close synaptic
[05:55] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: what do you need to do with it?
[05:56] <rajiv> max1:restart ur pc,it seems something has locked ur apt
[05:56] <Kingsqueak> RomanK: yeah I got lucky with the cam, just figured most things 'just work' these days, took me a bit to get it sorted out
[05:56] <rajiv> is anyone having any trouble with gnome panels
[05:56] <LinTux> any ideas Stefg
[05:56] <rajiv> is anyone having any trouble with gnome panels in edgy
[05:57] <Who_> can anyone help me with a device that doesn't mount properyl: the dmesg output when I plug it in is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37600/
[05:57] <|markie|> Kingsqueak: ftp with certain directiry access and also different root directories
[05:57] <stefg> LinTux: i'd try sudo aptitude remove graphviz-cairo
[05:57] <max1> i running the recovery mode on a ubuntu server from pc: it doens't want to boot, i read something about installing linux -386 package but when i try it guves this error
[05:57] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: vsftpd is pretty good for basics, for complicated setups proftpd is similar to Apache in the unending flexibility of its configs
[05:58] <UbnNoo1> Where do I install program so that all user could access them?
[05:58] <LinTux> what would the command be Stefg
[05:58] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: proftpd lets you do multiple anonymous accounts and all sorts of odd things
[05:58] <Who_> UbnNoo1: what programs do you want to install?
[05:58] <|markie|> Kingsqueak: and pure ftpd ?
[05:58] <Who_> UbnNoo1: if you use the package m,anager to install programs then all users should be able to use them
[05:59] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: just 'yet another ftpd'  I'm sure it's fine too, I just know the other two better and prefer proftpd over wu-ftpd for most things just because I like its config files better
[05:59] <UbnNoo1> Who _ : No, its not from the package manager,
[05:59] <max1> how do I install packages when using the cdrom recovery mode apt-get won't work
[05:59] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: take a look here http://vsftpd.beasts.org/
[05:59] <stefg> LinTux: you're problem is that there's a package 'clamping' in apt... remove it, or try to reinstall it, if it's absolutely necessary.. sudo aptitude remove graphviz-cairo tries to uninstall the offending package
[06:00] <LinTux> it worked, thanks StefG
[06:00] <|markie|> Kingsqueak: i want to use different root maps and i know vsftpd is not capable of doing that
[06:00] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: ah o.k.
[06:00] <max1> how do I install packages when using the cdrom recovery mode apt-get won't work and server doesn't want to boot
[06:00] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: I'd recommend proftpd only because I'm familiar with that one, should do that for you
[06:00] <rajiv> can anyone see what im typing???
[06:00] <LinTux> we can see it ok
[06:00] <eagleton24> yes, rajiv
[06:00] <rajiv> hey guys
[06:00] <stefg> max1: you don't
[06:01] <rajiv> my gnome panel is all broke
[06:01] <rajiv> somebody help
[06:01] <LinTux> how do I access Aegis antivirus
[06:01] <dellorino> who ok i call 333 and cam work
[06:01] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: no chance on just using virtual users for the account access eh?
[06:01] <rajiv> wasssup with it
[06:01] <rajiv> somebody i guess has done some voodoo on my ubuntu
[06:01] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: whatever I can do to talk you out of mapping users to local accounts...  I would advise that as much as possible
[06:02] <|markie|> Kingsqueak: so vir users means using a db
[06:02] <LinTux> how do I scan with Aegis antivirus
[06:02] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: could just mean a text file as a db, but yeah
[06:02] <benjamin> Anyone who knows how install webcam ?
[06:02] <jrib> !webcam | benjamin
[06:02] <ubotu> benjamin: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:02] <Kingsqueak> |markie|: keep in mind ftp is clear text so if the password is sent, the account is exposed
[06:02] <dellorino> Who_, i call number 333 and cam work for the first call and later stop work
[06:03] <Renu_> i cannot canfigure my tvtuner i dont know why
[06:03] <LinTux> can anyone tell me how to scan with Aegis
[06:04] <finalbeta> Renu_, more information required.
[06:04] <Renu_> i installed kdetv and tvtime
[06:04] <wickedly_cool> check my new phone: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=951
[06:04] <Renu_> i am from easteurope
[06:04] <Who_> dellorino: grr..silly program :P
[06:05] <LinTux> can I install clam av from termin, if so what is the command
[06:05] <dellorino> ok o kmy cam work in wengophone
[06:05] <Hoag> Can anyone recommend a good gdesklets archive? Can't seem to find any. Looking for a good RSS feed grabber in particular..
[06:05] <finalbeta> first time TVtime starts, it should ask you for location info. East europe, pal secam etc. You probably still need to scan in tvtime and kdetv, xawtv just add all standard channels.
[06:05] <jevangelo> i want my company to stop using a windows environment and start using open office, and evolution
[06:05] <jevangelo> down with windows
[06:05] <Renu_> finalbeta do u know another program to run tvtuner?
[06:06] <rajiv> sudo apt-get install libclamav1 clamav-base
[06:06] <finalbeta> Renu_, xawtv
[06:06] <rajiv> sudo apt-get install libclamav1 clamav-base clamav-daemon clamav-docs clamav-freshclam clamav clamtk
[06:06] <don_dinero> hola
[06:07] <Who_> dellorino: will ekiga do what you want?
[06:07] <dellorino> in ekiga work my cam
[06:08] <minerale> how may one remove a package using dpkg and remove its dependencies too ?>
[06:09] <LordGoth> what do I need to edit in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make my nVIDIA card work?
[06:09] <LinTux> how do I remove graphviz-cairo from terminal
[06:09] <Who_> dellorino: well, can ekiga do the job you wanted eyeball for, cos if so then use that :)
[06:09] <rajiv> sudo apt-get remove *******
[06:09] <Who_> dellorino: or find someone better than me to help you - there are some experts in #winehq :)
[06:09] <m12> where do I move my .jar files so they can be accessed from terminal without being in the right directory?
[06:09] <finalbeta> LordGoth, no idea, I suggest running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to configure it all.
[06:10] <Jesse> Anyone need help?
[06:10] <nette> hey can someone help me with this: "Exception: Your system supports OpenGL version "1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)"Glest needs at least version 1.3 to work. You may solve this problem by installing your latest video card drivers"
[06:10] <benjamin> ubotu: What if my webcam isn't on the list ?
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about What if my webcam isn't on the list ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <dark-shadow> how can i get the 3rd desktop switching to work
[06:11] <dark-shadow> i installed ubuntu 6.10
[06:11] <mio> Who_,  ...
[06:11] <Who_> wasabi_:rambo3: thanks for the help a while ago :)
[06:11] <dark-shadow> !3ddesktop
[06:11] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[06:11] <Who_> mio:... hello?
[06:11] <paitart> how do know what linux kernel is installed on my system?
[06:11] <rambo3> np
[06:11] <Jesse> !edgy
[06:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[06:11] <mio> ???
[06:11] <nette> i've tried to install the newest ATI drivers for my graphic card..but it can't seem to work properly..
[06:12] <nolimitsoya> paitart, 'uname -r'  in a terminal
[06:12] <Jesse> !Help on upgrading through update manager
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Help on upgrading through update manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <Renu_> <finalbeta i dont have in synaptic xawtv
[06:12] <nolimitsoya> !upgrade > nette
[06:12] <Jesse> !update manager
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <Who_> mio: did I say something to you? cos i didn't mean to - I don't think :)
[06:12] <Jesse> !update-manager
[06:12] <m12> where do I move my .jar files so they can be accessed from terminal without being in the right directory?
[06:12] <ubotu> update-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates. In component main, is optional. Version 0.45 (edgy), package size 775 kB, installed size 3652 kB
[06:12] <nolimitsoya> !upgrade > Jesse
[06:12] <Desert88> hey
[06:12] <nolimitsoya> !msgthebot | Jesse
[06:12] <ubotu> Jesse: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[06:12] <finalbeta> Renu_, did you enable all repositories?
[06:12] <benjamin> I have a z-star webcam, how do I install it ? :/
[06:13] <nette> anyone installed ATI drivers on ubuntu? i have radeon 9600 pro
[06:13] <Desert88> I have dapper is there any good reason  I should upgrade to edgy?
[06:13] <Jesse> ok
[06:13] <lumaQQ> QUESTION   SOFTWARE  ive been looking for some kind of shop managment software for linux.  i need a POS system that will give me all the info of hat comes in and what goes out that can be used by people with little training...  Does anyone have any ideas (if its just Search the net please dont reply ive looked loads)
[06:13] <mio> sorry repit
[06:13] <max1> how do i install another kernel using the recovery mode my kernel isn't compatible with my hardwarer
[06:13] <Renu_> ues
[06:13] <Renu_> yes
[06:13] <Who_> mio: unless you answerd a question of mine and I missed it...
[06:13] <mio> semplice english plz
[06:13] <nolimitsoya> max1, sudo apt-get install <kernel of choice>
[06:13] <paitart> nolimitsoya: it says 2.6.15-27-386 and this is newly updated. problem is, my system now hangs/freezes everytime i insert a flashdrive or mp3 player to my usb ports. what could be the prob?
[06:13] <Desert88> so can anyone tell me whats different about edgy compared to dapper
[06:14] <Scorpmoon> why does opening a .kml file while Google Earth is already open, open another instance of Google Earth?
[06:14] <Scorpmoon> it doesn't do so on Windows
[06:14] <Desert88> plz
[06:14] <finalbeta> Renu_, I doubt that. if you really did enable all repositories, run sude apt-get update first. Perhaps it didn't show up yet
[06:14] <nolimitsoya> paitart, no idea :) have you tried the generic kernel?
[06:14] <max1> nolimitsoya:  that doesn't work i've got 4 partitions i only on the third one it can find a shell but apt-get doens't work
[06:14] <Jesse> Can anyone help me with installing NetBeans on Linux?
[06:14] <finalbeta> !repositories
[06:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:14] <Thuryn> sup?
[06:14] <mio> ok u tell me install wengo
[06:14] <nolimitsoya> Desert88, no, that cant be dont with any reasonable amount of effort
[06:14] <paitart> nolimitsoya: how do i install the generic kernel?
[06:14] <Thuryn> you tell me ;)
[06:15] <dark-shadow> !beryl
[06:15] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:15] <lumaQQ> QUESTION   SOFTWARE  ive been looking for some kind of store POS managment ?? ~~  any ideas????
[06:15] <Desert88> why not?
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> paitart, 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic' should work
[06:15] <Desert88> I just need to know if its a good idea to upgrade to edgy for a home user
[06:15] <Jesse> What is the difference between edgy and ubuntu
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> Desert88, then the awnser is yes
[06:15] <slop> help - when my console beeps, my mp3 player stops playing and says "Failed To Open Sound Device"
[06:15] <Jesse> What is the difference between edgy and dapper drake
[06:15] <lumaQQ> jesse  They are the same thing  ~~
[06:16] <Jesse> i know
[06:16] <slop> Jesse: dapper works
[06:16] <finalbeta> Jesse, edgy is one version from ubuntu, like XP is a windows version.
[06:16] <lumaQQ> ubuntu Verstion is called edgy...
[06:16] <nolimitsoya> Jesse, read my response to Desert88
[06:16] <owh> Uh, no they're not.
[06:16] <paitart> nolimitsoya: what package should i have so i can install the generic kernel?
[06:16] <owh> lumaQQ: Uh, no they're not.
[06:16] <rajiv> my gnome panel is killin me,somebody please help
[06:16] <nolimitsoya> paitart, its a kernel. you dont need any
[06:16] <Jesse> still is there any new things that edgy has that dapper drake doesn'
[06:16] <Jesse> still is there any new things that edgy has that dapper drake doesn't
[06:16] <lumaQQ> owh ?  so windows and XP are not the same thing then?   ~~~
[06:16] <lumaQQ> big head
[06:16] <nolimitsoya> Jesse, of course
[06:16] <mnoir> Jesse: !release
[06:16] <Fleebailey33> im going to shoot by a theory thats taken me a day and 1/2 to come up with
[06:16] <owh> Jesse: Dapper is a different version than edgy.
[06:16] <Desert88> !release
[06:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:17] <lumaQQ> QUESTION   SOFTWARE  ive been looking for some kind of shop managment software for linux.  i need a POS system that will give me all the info of hat comes in and what goes out that can be used by people with little training...  Does anyone have any ideas
[06:17] <Jesse> ok
[06:17] <owh> Jesse: Dapper has long term support, edgy does not.
[06:17] <paitart> nolimitsoya: it says "E: Couldn't find package linux-generic
[06:17] <paitart> "
[06:17] <owh> Jesse: Edge is the latest version of Ubuntu to be released.
[06:17] <Fleebailey33> that i installed windows xp onto a 30 gb partion but it also erased the other linux partition
[06:17] <mnoir> !generic
[06:17] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> paitart, ok, then there is no metapackage... just search and install
[06:17] <Desert88> k i will just stick with dapper if theres nothing important on edgy
[06:17] <Fleebailey33> so then i installed ubuntu and it wouldnt boot
[06:17] <mio> help for wineeeeeeee
[06:18] <Fleebailey33> i think it was becuase it couldnt check the windows file system
[06:18] <nolimitsoya> Desert88, of course there are important new stuff in edgy
[06:18] <Desert88> for a home user?
[06:18] <owh> Jesse: There is generally a new release every six months, Dapper was released in 2006, February, or 6.2, Edgy was released in 2006, October, or 6.10.
[06:18] <Desert88> like what?
[06:18] <stefg> paitart: sudo aptitude install linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic
[06:18] <Jesse> Freebaily:> what do you mean it won't boot
[06:18] <nolimitsoya> Desert88, havent i awnsered all that already?
[06:18] <minimec> Hi. My nm-applet is not showing me any wlan-connections. wifi-radar shows them without problems. I configured nm-applet by # eth0 + 1 in /etc/network/interfaces ...
[06:18] <owh> Jesse: Does that help you?
[06:18] <Fleebailey33> so what i need to do is install fresh. and get fat32 and windows filesytem support becuase it was checking that
[06:18] <Jesse> owh:>thnak
[06:18] <Jesse> owh:>thanks
[06:18] <nette> anyone using Beryl??
[06:18] <Jesse> yeh
[06:18] <Fleebailey33> it stopped at checking filesystem
[06:18] <minimec> I am on edgy
[06:18] <Desert88> not really but its ok dapper is fine
[06:19] <nolimitsoya> Fleebailey33, edit your fstab to never check your windows filesystn
[06:19] <nolimitsoya> *em
[06:19] <Jesse> Freebaily:> that's werid your windows parition might have a error on it
[06:19] <Fleebailey33> but i couldnt if it never booted before
[06:19] <nolimitsoya> Fleebailey33, change the last char on the line from 1/2 to 0
[06:19] <ValMarko> I wonder if someone has tv streaming and flash animations not only installed but working with firefox. I wonder how you did it ?
[06:19] <owh> Anyone had any experience where eth0 does not come up after a resume from sleep?
[06:19] <wasp_ems> can someone tell me what the difference betwenn dvd + and dvd- is?
[06:19] <owh> That is, I can manually bring it up, but no automagically.
[06:19] <nolimitsoya> Fleebailey33, boot the live cd, mount / and edit the fstab from there
[06:19] <paitart> stefg: tnx
[06:20] <owh> stefg: How do you get fried fat drives? Are you talking about the names, corruption, or something else?
[06:20] <ata_> I'm having the WPA blues. as long as I connect to a unencrypted network all is fine. when I try to connect to a protected network my wifi-led starts blinking like crazy and I can't connect to anything
[06:20] <Fleebailey33> to cook them
[06:20] <Fleebailey33> thanks nolimitsoya
[06:21] <Fleebailey33> let me go try that
[06:21] <Fleebailey33> lappy is upstairs
[06:21] <nolimitsoya> wasp_ems, they are slightly diffrent when it comes to compatibility and editing - and incompatible. check wikipedia for the indepth explaination
[06:21] <wasp_ems> ok thanx
[06:21] <Jesse> ata_:> can't help you their, means wi-fi
[06:21] <Jesse> ata_:> can't help you their, mines wi-fi
[06:21] <Jesse> sprru
[06:21] <Jesse> sorry
[06:21] <Jesse> crap
[06:21] <ata_> :D
[06:21] <ata_> you get an A for trying at least :)
[06:22] <Jesse> lol
[06:22] <stefg> owh: dosfsck during boot in edgy/dapper and windows chkdsk can't obviously not agree on what a fat32 filesystem is... so if don't change the default behaviour of fsck'ing the fat drives at boot, dosfsck corrupt the drives
[06:22] <Jesse> does anyone know how to make dosemu work?
[06:23] <Jesse> i can't and i have loads of QuickBASIC programs i need to move to gambas
[06:23] <owh> stefg: Could it be that fcsk, or dosfsck are checking your drive as fat16, rather than fat32, and could this be caused by an fstab entry where you've marked the drive as fat, rather than vfat?
[06:23] <Jesse> i thought that vfat was only for swap only
[06:24] <Stormx2> Anyone know C++? I'm completely new and I'd like to know the standard procedures for compiling in ubuntu
[06:24] <owh> Jesse: No, swap has a different type altogether.
[06:24] <narvik86> Jesse: maybe try dosbox?
[06:24] <stefg> owh, i don't care /what/ dosfsck does wrong... i just mark all fat-drives as 0 0 in /etc/fstab
[06:24] <benjamin> I have a problem with my screen resolution. I have a 16:10 flatscreen and in the resolution menu there isn't any resolutions supporting that?
[06:24] <andres> i've looked a little on captive (ntfs under fuse). any hints on how to get it to run in ubuntu?
[06:24] <tirus89> hello?
[06:25] <andres> hello tirus
[06:25] <owh> Jesse: It's a type 82 partition.
[06:25] <jamesbrose> andres, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:25] <tirus89> I would like some info on unbuntu
[06:25] <tirus89> ubuntu*
[06:25] <jamesbrose> andres, go through it until you reach screen resolutuion, select the ones you want with the space bar
[06:25] <jamesbrose> the restart X
[06:25] <andres> jamesbrose: will that help me get a writeable ntfs partition you think? :)
[06:26] <benjamin> someone who can help me?
[06:26] <andres> I think you're talking to benjamin
[06:26] <jamesbrose> andres, no, you need that ntfs thing
[06:26] <jamesbrose> andres, will find the link one min
[06:26] <Jesse> i know
[06:26] <andres> captive you mean?
[06:26] <jamesbrose> andres, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[06:26] <owh> stefg: My point is that the fstab might be tripping you up, causing the fsck on boot to run with the wrong options, thus "corrupting" your partition, rather than the right thing, so perhaps you should have a look. I'd be surprised if dosfsck is actually doing something wrong.
[06:26] <andres> great
[06:26] <jamesbrose> oh right
[06:26] <jamesbrose> wrong person :S
[06:26] <Jesse> ok i'll try dosbox
[06:27] <jamesbrose> benjamin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[06:27] <jamesbrose> wait
[06:27] <jamesbrose> wrong thing
[06:27] <jamesbrose> andres, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[06:27] <christiane> !marillat | christiane again
[06:27] <ubotu> christiane again: marillat is a repository created for Debian. Please don't use it on Ubuntu. Consider using !seveas !plf or !cipherfunk
[06:27] <andres> jamesbrose:  thank you
[06:27] <jamesbrose> benjamin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:27] <Fleebailey33> its still not booting in edgy
[06:27] <christiane> !seveas | christiane again
[06:27] <ubotu> christiane again: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:27] <Fleebailey33> freezing at booting console fonts and keymap
[06:27] <jamesbrose> andres, Anytime
[06:27] <christiane> !plf | christiane again
[06:27] <ubotu> christiane again: PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[06:28] <christiane> !cipherfunk | christiane again
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cipherfunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <oskude> !abuse | christiane
[06:28] <ubotu> christiane: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:28] <Fleebailey33> or is that supposed to take a long time the first time?
[06:28] <oskude> !botabuse
[06:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[06:28] <oskude> even
[06:28] <stefg> owh: no, my fstab is alright... dosfsck tripps, by claiming lost clusters and 'repairing' (actually destroying) files... and this is a default behavior.
[06:29] <Fleebailey33> any idea nolimitsoya
[06:29] <owh> stefg: That sounds wrong to me. I'm not doubting your report, but fat has been around for a looooong time and was from memory the first file system used under linux (I might be mistaken), so the behaviour you're describing just sounds completely wrong.
[06:30] <tirus89> can someone help me with some basic info
[06:30] <engla> the first file system was ext1 I think
[06:30] <stefg> owh, It *is* completly wrong... but i stopped complaining about edgy bugs a while ago, just finding my silent workarounds
[06:31] <tirus89> how similar is windows to ubuntu
[06:32] <oskude> tirus89: similar is relative...
[06:32] <engla> windows has many of the same metaphors, like windows (duh) and menus..? and applications that are multi-instance
[06:32] <A-L-A-R-M> hey, i got a simple question, its not something that serious but want to fix it. when i right click on a movie file and go on the "open with" place, i have twice the entry Xine movie player. how can i remove one of those ?
[06:32] <TC`> can ubuntu show what ram i have?
[06:33] <darkgoth> servidores en espaol ????
[06:33] <tirus89> well, lets say hypotheticly, that if I wanted to install a game ex: WoW, CS:S, would it install and play?
[06:33] <oskude> TC`: you mean what type of ram ? dunno
[06:33] <TC`> yeh
[06:33] <Aladin> Did someone hear something of the supporting the robson cache of the upcoming centrino - platform Santa Rosa?
[06:33] <TC`> cuz i got 5year pc tho
[06:33] <Bakefy> How can I share a drive to a windows computer?
[06:33] <TC`> BAkefy
[06:34] <Bakefy> TC`?
[06:34] <finalbeta> !samba
[06:34] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:34] <TC`> system>>aministration>sared folder
[06:34] <TC`> shared*
[06:34] <finalbeta> !samba | Bakefy
[06:34] <ubotu> Bakefy: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:34] <owh> stefg: Hmm, did you see bug #48806?
[06:35] <Bakefy> TC` I have that working... it asks me for a user name and password for some reason
[06:35] <Bakefy> I will look at the wiki
[06:35] <TC`> me too
[06:35] <TC`> ;] 
[06:35] <Bakefy> thanks guys
[06:35] <Okt> I am having an issue with gdm now, when I login I get an error, "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit." Then the gdm closes and I am left with my desktop icons and the right click menu.
[06:35] <bluesign> any idea if i can use an old pii350 cpu, without the integrated fan ?
[06:36] <Bakefy> lord of the rings is on TNT
[06:36] <goobie> join #ubuntu-pl
[06:36] <Bakefy> fyi
[06:36] <finalbeta> Bakefy, if windows asks for username/password, provide your linux username/password.
[06:36] <stefg> owh: this is a Launchpad bug number, not a bugzilla bugnumber, huh?
[06:36] <finalbeta> Bakefy, no anonymous sharing I believe.
[06:36] <owh> stefg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/48806
[06:36] <Rug> Howdy all
[06:37] <stefg> owh: hit it on the spot... i too reported a bug some time ago, but this would have been a duplicate
[06:37] <finalbeta> Okt, you get that after rebooting? i've also had it after kickstarting the xserver.
[06:38] <iturk> hi there is it possible to convert a odf document in a pdf file ??
[06:38] <Rug> I have just installed dapper on a dual-cpu/dual-core Opteron Tyan system.  Should I use "linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7" or "linux-image-2.6.15-27-server" for my kernel?
[06:38] <Okt> finalbeta: Yea I get that with a reboot, aswell as a restarting of X
[06:38] <mc__> how to remove a package when dpkg --force-all purge fails?
[06:38] <owh> stefg: Did you see the comments about the 0 in column 6?
[06:39] <finalbeta> Okt, damn, I wish I knew what it was :p. I  suspect it's a lock file left somewhere. perhaps google can help. sound common enough.
[06:39] <nette> hello again: can someone with a radeon card please tell me how to install the default drivers for it? i've tried to install from ati page but it wont work
[06:39] <nette> just the default ubuntu drivers
[06:39] <stefg> owh: The reason is probably that I always do a /server/-install and then dpkg --set-selections... there might be a different default for server and desktop-installs
[06:39] <owh> stefg: And looking at the duplicate bugs, the cause is exactly what I suspected, a fat32 partition being treated as fat16.
[06:39] <owh> stefg: Heh :-)
[06:40] <Okt> finalbeta: Thanks, I've been looking on google/forums since 11 last night... But hey I'll keep looking.
[06:40] <owh> stefg: I'm going to have a little chat in #ubuntu-bugs about this.
[06:40] <james296> can someone PLZ help me add a program to run at systen startup? I go to the sessions application and startup programs and add it, but when I close it and open it again, its automatically not there now
[06:40] <james296> how can I fix this?
[06:41] <finalbeta> nette, the default drivers are the opensource ones, you can't find them on the ATI website. if you want to default ones back. I sugest renning sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it will set your box back to default.
[06:41] <james296> its called glipper
[06:41] <finalbeta> Follow the steps.
[06:41] <stefg> owh, i'll join in, but will be eating :-)
[06:41] <nette> finalbeta. ok will do that, thanks:)
[06:41] <james296> which allows you to copy anything you type to the clipboard like in Windows
[06:41] <minerale> I just installed an ATI radeon 9600 card, replacing my old nvidia -- I ran a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but now the x server wont' start what can I do ?
[06:42] <nette> finalbeta, will it just set the video card to default? or also the keyboard, mice etc.. ?
[06:42] <finalbeta> nette, yep, also the keybord + mouse
[06:42] <nette> finalbeta, ok.. haven't done anything with them so..
[06:43] <finalbeta> unless you made spacial changes, that really shouldn't be an issue.
[06:44] <theilliniguy> Hello - newb with new install!  Trying to view WMV video using VLC but onlhy plays audio - how can I see it?
[06:45] <foob> theillni by installin  w32codecs
[06:46] <finalbeta> minerale,I can't give you a perfect solution, and perhaps the issue is no more. But I happen to have ran the live CD on a system with a 9600 card 2 hours ago. After booting I had distorted image due to a to high frequency for the monitor. When I ran  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it didn't auto recognize the card. So I had to manually select ATI. After that the xserver didn't start. If you select Vesa in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, t
[06:46] <finalbeta> he xserver will start again.
[06:46] <finalbeta> I ran 6.06
[06:47] <finalbeta> Seems the drivers don't support 9600
[06:47] <alsa> !beryl
[06:47] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:48] <finalbeta> minerale, if it is the driver issue. I would have to suggest using fglrx.
[06:48] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> Can anyone help me with my broadcam chipset wirless card?
[06:48] <finalbeta> !bcm43xx
[06:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:48] <renhoek> i have problems with the ubuntu install for 6.10 when the screen gets to manual edit partitioning, it locks up, any thoughts?
[06:49] <kohr_> how do i search using the ls command?
[06:49] <darks> how i install mysql
[06:49] <darks> apt-get install mysql
[06:49] <darks> dont work
[06:49] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> yes ubotu, I'm currently trying to figure out which file i need to download from http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4547
[06:49] <oskude> darks: mysql-server
[06:49] <Samuli^> darks, apt-cache search mysql
[06:50] <kohr_> so far i have been using ls |grep
[06:50] <kohr_> but that doesn't tell the directory
[06:50] <christiane> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Which chip?
[06:50] <renhoek> anyone know the format of the harddrive i should have before installing ubuntu? ext2, ext3, fat32?
[06:51] <kohr_> renhoek use riserFS
[06:51] <EdLin> renhoek: the installer takes care of that
[06:51] <finalbeta> renhoek, use ext3
[06:51] <theilliniguy> How can I play WMV files?  VLC 8.4 only plays audio...
[06:51] <EdLin> renhoek: personally I'd pick ext3
[06:51] <FirstStrike> theilliniguy: get mplayer
[06:51] <kohr_> renhoek they all work, reiserFS was personally recommended to me
[06:51] <kohr_> theilliniguy
[06:51] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> ubotu:  I'm currently trying to figure out which file i need to download from http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4547
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I'm currently trying to figure out which file i need to download from http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4547 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <darks> whet is the problam
[06:52] <darks> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37601/
[06:52] <theilliniguy> Firststrike thanks - VLc doesnt support WMV files I take it
[06:52] <renhoek> riserFS?
[06:52] <kohr_> get the w32 codexs
[06:52] <renhoek> what is that?
[06:52] <EdLin> Ricerfs is the filesystem that is very fast but doesn't last very long. ;-)
[06:52] <FirstStrike> bcm43xx-fwcutter: ubotu is a bot
[06:52] <theilliniguy> kohr - w32 codecs for VLC?
[06:52] <renhoek> my installer just lockes up evertime i try to manually partition
[06:52] <kohr_> Edlin what do you mean doesn;t last long?
[06:52] <darks> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37601/
[06:52] <finalbeta> there is no reason to push something non standard onto a user like reiser, most distro's using reiserFS are going back to ext3 anyway.
[06:52] <EdLin> kohr_: it loses data
[06:53] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> Well
[06:53] <kohr_> theilliniguy, no for mplayer sorry,
[06:53] <FirstStrike> mm
[06:53] <FirstStrike> what's the trigger..
[06:53] <kohr_> theilliniguy its on the restricted format list
[06:53] <FirstStrike> !win32
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <EdLin> kohr_: the performance increase for many small files is negligable.
[06:53] <theilliniguy> Kohr ok I'll try that
[06:53] <LjL> !seveas | for win32codecs
[06:53] <ubotu> for win32codecs: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:53] <kohr_> theilliniguy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:53] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> I can't connect to the internet with a wired connection
[06:54] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> my only alternative is this broadcam wireless chipset
[06:54] <Okt> Gnome is now giving me errors about "cannot open display" any idea what I can do to resolve this?
[06:54] <renhoek> right now i am running fedora...and gparted doesnt recognize my harddrive formating for one of my drives...is this the problem
[06:54] <kohr_> EdLin Darn it, is it really that bad?
[06:54] <EdLin> kohr_: well, it works for a while, then it hicups. At least, that was my experience with it.
[06:54] <kohr_> EdLin what happened when it hiccuped? you lost data?
[06:54] <finalbeta> kohr_, it also doesn't seem to have much of a future. And ext does.
[06:54] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> I'm having trouble finding out which fwcutter file i need to download from  I'm currently trying to figure out which file i need to download from http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4547 in order to swap it from this computer to my wireless remote computer
[06:55] <EdLin> renhoek: just delete all your Linux partitions if you can.
[06:55] <justsee> Hi I'm doing a manual partition of Ubuntu - and googling hasn't helped: 90 GB available: thinking / - 10GB, /swap - 1.5GB (got 768 MB RAM), /usr/ 5 GB, /var/ 5 GB, /boot/ - 250MB, /tmp/ - 2GB, /home/- the rest - is this sensible or just silly?!
[06:55] <EdLin> kohr_: precisely
[06:55] <kohr_> finalbeta, yeah with its founder being arrested for murdur
[06:55] <renhoek> shouldnt the ubuntu just recognize them anyways?
[06:55] <EdLin> renhoek: Red Hat and Fedora label the partitions, making it difficult to share them.
[06:56] <renhoek> is that why ubuntu locks up everytime i want to manually edit the partitions before install?
[06:56] <finalbeta> kohr_, even before that. I think it was opensuse or mandrake that where the latest to return back to ext3, since ext4 will pretty much be the update of choice.
[06:56] <EdLin> renhoek: it could - I don't have experience with gparted and Fedora
[06:56] <kohr_> finalbeta is there a way to switch now? or is it too late?
[06:57] <EdLin> renhoek: I did have problems installing another distro even after shrinking the parititions of RH with Partition Magic, due to the labels.
[06:57] <renhoek> i just don't want to format my fedora off, if that isnt the problem and i am left with no os
[06:57] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> so no1 in here can help me with my wireless problem?
[06:57] <finalbeta> kohr_, no idea, never really did touch reicerFS
[06:57] <renhoek> ahh
[06:58] <kohr_> fwcutter what was it again?
[06:58] <kohr_> finabeta oh darn
[06:58] <renhoek> but i should be able to format in the livecd gparted, before installing?
[06:59] <christiane> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Which chip?
[06:59] <EdLin> renhoek: maybe you should try the alternate install iso
[06:59] <finalbeta> kohr_, http://bozziesfw.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/convert-home-from-reiserfs-to-ext3/ (seems it was openSuse that switched :) ) , one tip though. BACKUP!
[06:59] <kohr_> finalbeta do you think i should switch? is it really worth it right now?
[07:00] <Jesse> does anyone know what SDL is?
[07:00] <finalbeta> kohr_, I can't comment on that. it would only be an opinion based on pretty much nothing :p
[07:00] <Jesse> !SDL
[07:00] <alsa> any one know how to install themes for beryl
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SDL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <EdLin> !info SDL
[07:00] <ubotu> Package sdl does not exist in any distro I know
[07:01] <EdLin> !info SDL-image
[07:01] <finalbeta> symetric describr line?
[07:01] <alsa> ?
[07:01] <ubotu> Package sdl-image does not exist in any distro I know
[07:01] <Jesse> see what i mean
[07:01] <EdLin> !info libsdl
[07:01] <ubotu> Package libsdl does not exist in any distro I know
[07:01] <kraut> moin
[07:01] <EdLin> !info libsdl-image
[07:01] <justsee> hi can anyone advise a sensible partition size for /tmp/, /usr/, /var/ and /boot/ for 90 GB drive?
[07:01] <renhoek> edlin: thats what i was thinking
[07:01] <ubotu> Package libsdl-image does not exist in any distro I know
[07:01] <Jesse> !SDL-CONFIG
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SDL-CONFIG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <EdLin> ubotu: sorry for the bot abuse ;)
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry for the bot abuse ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <Stormx2> Can I change ubuntu's behviour like this: Clicking inside a window will not bring it to front, only clicking the titlebar will do that.
[07:02] <renhoek> but isnt the alternative just a nongraphical interface?
[07:02] <finalbeta> Jesse, what are you looking for SDL can mean a number of things.
[07:02] <EdLin> renhoek: it has more disk formatting features
[07:02] <Jesse> i need it for dosbox
[07:02] <kohr_> how do i search using the ls command?  i have been using ls |grep, but it doesn't tell me the directory the file is in
[07:02] <christiane> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Which chip? `lspci | grep  Broadcom`
[07:02] <EdLin> Jesse: then apt-get install dosbox
[07:02] <Stormx2> How can I reformat my swap partition? It got screwed up.
[07:02] <finalbeta> kohr_, man find
[07:02] <LjL> kohr_: what about using "find" or "locate"?
[07:02] <kohr_> oh
[07:02] <Jesse> it says that is needs for dosbox
[07:02] <kohr_> cool
[07:02] <theilliniguy> kohr - total newb! i'm downloading the mplayer w32 codecs- will that process self install or do I need to do something next?
[07:03] <kohr_> thanks finalbeta and Ljl
[07:03] <stefg> !libsdl1.2debian | Jesse
[07:03] <ubotu> libsdl1.2debian: Simple DirectMedia Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB
[07:03] <Stormx2> theilliniguy: Surely just "sudo apt-get install w32codecs"
[07:03] <finalbeta> !restricted
[07:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:03] <EdLin> Jesse: synaptic, apt-get, and aptitude all will take care of downloading the dependencies. Just turn on all the repositories.
[07:03] <Jesse> i already have the sorce code downloaded
[07:03] <Kosiarz> Hi all
[07:03] <kohr_> theilliniguy, i just did this yesterday, i think it will work automaticly if you follow the directions on the page i gave you
[07:03] <Stormx2> Hi Kosiarz
[07:03] <EdLin> Jesse: you don't want to compile it from source in a package-centric distro.
[07:03] <kohr_> theillinuguy it won't play stuff with DRM though
[07:04] <finalbeta> theilliniguy,  : wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[07:04] <Stormx2> Jesse: What are you installing? dosbox? Its in the repos
[07:04] <finalbeta> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[07:04] <theilliniguy> kohr ok m- i did go to that page and copy past the whole line of text
[07:04] <kohr_> theilliniguy
[07:04] <kohr_> yeah
[07:04] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, those two lines will install them for you.
[07:04] <Stormx2> Whats wrong with the w32codecs in the repos?!!
[07:04] <LjL> that there is none?
[07:04] <Stormx2> Really?
[07:04] <finalbeta> Stormx2, they can't be inside the repositories, because they can be considered illigal
[07:04] <Stormx2> Damn I was sure it was there.
[07:04] <Stormx2> Oh maybe it was just in Seveas's repos
[07:04] <LjL> yeah
[07:05] <LjL> !info w32codecs
[07:05] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:05] <finalbeta> it's basically the windows codecs delivered with windows, you can't redistribute them.
[07:05] <LjL> !seveas
[07:05] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:05] <Stormx2> I haven't seen Seveas in ages... where is he? o.o
[07:05] <LjL> here
[07:05] <renhoek> k, thanks for your help edlin
[07:05] <theilliniguy> final - kohr - got asked for passwrod - i thype mine then got this message:  status database area is locked by another process
[07:06] <christiane> Did anyone manage to get Cinelerra to run on ubuntu? I downloaded it but doesn't even `./configure` ("[: 31: ==: unexpected operator   ---   ./configure: 47: Syntax error: Bad fd number").
[07:06] <EdLin> renhoek: np
[07:07] <Rug> Is there a lamp meta-package that i can install?
[07:07] <snook353> using alien to convert noarch.rpm.  what does this mean:
[07:07] <snook353>  Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID b56a8bac
[07:07] <Montaro> Hmm anyone reported any issues with the latest apache2/php5 packages in fiesty? everytime i try to access apache, i get a blank page and this in error.log: [Mon Dec 18 04:05:44 2006]  [notice]  child pid 5643 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[07:07] <[sYn] > Does anyone know what the audo player in this picture is ?   http://www.xfce-look.org/content/pre2/49904-2.png
[07:07] <stefg> !lamp
[07:07] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:08] <kohr_> hey theCore
[07:08] <Montaro> stefg: was that directed at me?
[07:08] <theCore> kohr_: hello
[07:09] <stefg> Montaro: were you asking fot the lamp-metapackage?
[07:09] <kohr_> theCore, you wouldn't happen to be named after the core media player would you?
[07:09] <Rug> I was asking about lamp
[07:09] <james296> why am I unable to add anything to the system startup?
[07:09] <Montaro> no? heh sorry, i did ask about apache/php though. different question however :P
[07:09] <james296> how can I fix that?
[07:09] <stefg> !lamp | rug
[07:09] <ubotu> rug: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:09] <Rug> [sYn] : perhaps rythmbox?
[07:09] <theilliniguy> finalbeta - got asked for passwrod - i typed mine then got this message:  status database area is locked by another process
[07:09] <jrib> james296: have you checked your permissions on stuff in HOME
[07:09] <Rug> stefg: thanks
[07:09] <theCore> kohr_: no :)
[07:09] <[sYn] > Rug, tnanks, ill go check it out and see if thats the one :)
[07:10] <Phreddy_Pfander> quit *sleepun*
[07:10] <snook353> i'm gonna uninstall it, and install a diff package
[07:10] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, make sure you close all other package managers like synaptic before the dpkg command
[07:10] <theilliniguy> kohr got asked for password - i typed mine then got this message:  status database area is locked by another process
[07:10] <theilliniguy> finalbeta ok
[07:10] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, you can only have one open because it would corrupt the database of installed packages
[07:10] <Rug> I have just installed dapper on a dual-cpu/dual-core Opteron Tyan system.  Should I use "linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7" or "linux-image-2.6.15-27-server" for my kernel?
[07:11] <james296> yes and its all ok
[07:11] <mikebot> Does anyone think they can help me getting ubuntu connecting to the internet if is use DSL?
[07:11] <jrib> james296: what did you check?
[07:11] <mnoir> !dsl
[07:11] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:11] <james296> I right clicked in the Home folder and clicked properties and went to the Permissions tab
[07:12] <theilliniguy> finalbeta - pasting :~$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb gives message :~$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[07:12] <EdLin> mikebot: it's easy, especially if you have dhcp
[07:12] <Stormx2> What should I use for compiling C++ in ubuntu? cc? gcc?
[07:12] <jrib> james296: stuff /inside/ HOME
[07:12] <mikebot> mnoir: I followed that and got an error.
[07:12] <james296> I JUST formatted this and installed Automatix and installed mostly everything from it
[07:12] <Stormx2> james296: fool :P
[07:12] <LjL> !automatix
[07:12] <theilliniguy> finalbeta: bash: :~$: command not found
[07:12] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:12] <james296> lol HEY
[07:12] <mikebot> EdLin: DO you think you cna walk me through it, because I followed that guide and had problems.
[07:12] <A-L-A-R-M> i tried to install some codecs to play avi files that use the xvid codec, by following the instructions of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats and  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278&highlight=wmv+codecs   , did create the /usr/lib/win32 directory, added the codecs from mplayer(hq) in there, also changed the settings of different media players to look for the codecs at this directory. but when i try to open the f
[07:12] <james296> the problem CANT be because of automatix2 can it??
[07:13] <jrib> james296: run this command:   find ~ ! -user $USER
[07:13] <Rug> mikebot: did you try sudo pppeoconf ?
[07:13] <snook353> anyone know, one more time
[07:13] <snook353>  Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID b56a8bac
[07:13] <mikebot> Rug: Yes, and it found eth0, but it gave me the following error...
[07:13] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, paste the command correctly, if sudo is not found, your system would be severely broken. "sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb"
[07:13] <emilia> hey guys, i tried using wine to use dvdshrink, but that and k9copy both crash like half way through, k9copy says makeisoof crashed, anyone know if theres anything else i could use?
[07:13] <EdLin> mikebot: I have dhcp, which is automatically configured - if you use pppoe, you need to use pppoeconf.
[07:13] <ValMarko> Is it safe to use automatix?
[07:13] <nolimitsoya> automatix | ValMarko
[07:13] <Rug> james296: I have never had a problem with Automatix2, but others in this channel say that it is bjorked
[07:13] <LjL> ValMarko: NO
[07:13] <nolimitsoya> !automatix | ValMarko
[07:13] <ubotu> ValMarko: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:13] <mikebot> Rug: 'Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access Controller of your provider did not respond...'
[07:14] <james296> lol
[07:14] <james296> damnit
[07:14] <mikebot> EdLin: Tried that, but got the above error.
[07:14] <james296> I need to quit usin it then lol
[07:14] <james296> I did that command now what?
[07:14] <finalbeta> Automatix is the script that got blamed for the bad dapper to edgy updates. Apparently it even broke updates on systems where it was never used ;)
[07:14] <EdLin> mikebot: I'm sorry, I've never configured pppoe in Ubuntu since my DSL modem takes care of it.
[07:14] <Rug> mikebot: pppoeconf has always been bullet-proof for me.  I'd check your cables, NIC, modem, etc...
[07:14] <theilliniguy> finalbeta closer - got an unpacking and setting up messages
[07:14] <hydrogen> Does the resizer take a while to run in the installer on fat32 partitions?
[07:15] <hydrogen> or if its just resizing forever is that indicitave of something going wrong
[07:15] <hydrogen> forever being ~15 minutes so far
[07:15] <mikebot> Rug: everything else is connected properly. (I can boot into windows and connect without problems.)
[07:15] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, then it's installed
[07:15] <james296> hey, if I uninstall Automatix 2 think that would solve my problem?
[07:15] <nolimitsoya> hydrogen, resizing is dangerous. yours has likely failed
[07:15] <theilliniguy> finalbeta - got it!  video works - thanks all!!
[07:15] <Rug> mikebot: is it using USB or a NIC?
[07:15] <LjL> i don't think so
[07:15] <mikebot> Rug: I don't know what that means.
[07:15] <CoderX> can anyone help me Gparted can't resize my NTFS partitions anymore.
[07:15] <finalbeta> hydrogen, resizing can take ages. it needs to move all data up or down.
[07:15] <jrib> james296: no probably not
[07:16] <jrib> james296: you don't even know if it was automatix yet
[07:16] <hydrogen> finalbeta, thank you
[07:16] <james296> so, what can I do then? let me guess, the best option would be to once again reformat...correct?
[07:16] <Rug> mikebot: is the DSl modem connected to your computer via a USB cable/interface, or a network cable/interface?
[07:16] <jrib> james296: no, run my command please
[07:16] <linkbelt238> Can someone help me with the live CD?
[07:16] <james296> well how can I figure that out?
[07:16] <james296> I did
[07:16] <Aar0n444> hi
[07:16] <jrib> james296: what did it say?
[07:16] <PriceChild> !anyone > linkbelt238
[07:16] <tim167> THIS i miss from Windoze: while dragging a file from a folder onto an app > alt+tab can still be used while dragging, to choose the app to drop the file on!
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/gedit-root
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/root-nautilus-here
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/search-here
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.Trash/1
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.config/autostart
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.config/autostart/beagled.desktop
[07:17] <EdLin> mikebot: is it connected with something that usually looks like a somewhat big phone jack, or is it connected with a small rectangle?
[07:17] <jrib> james296: not here...
[07:17] <Rug> !flood
[07:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:17] <nolimitsoya> tim167, file a bugreport
[07:17] <jrib> james296: ls -ld /home/james/.config/autostart    please
[07:17] <james296> sorry
[07:17] <PriceChild> tim167: drag and hold over hte item on the taskbar for a few seconds, then it will change
[07:17] <LjL> tim167: does that fine in KDE ;)
[07:17] <Rug> EdLin: thanks =)
[07:17] <mikebot> EdLin: My configuration is Wall > Phone line > modem > ethernet > computer
[07:17] <tim167> PriceChilde: that's more miles to go with the cursor!
[07:18] <james296> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-17 12:22 /home/james/.config/autostart
[07:18] <jrib> james296: that's your permission problem
[07:18] <EdLin> mikebot: OK, ethernet = NIC
[07:18] <Rug> mikebot: is the modem turned on and DSL light "on"?
[07:18] <ricanelite> has anyone here got MOL working? Need help please
[07:18] <mikebot> Rug: Yes
[07:18] <mikebot> Iw as actually just in windows using it fine
[07:18] <nolimitsoya> LjL, have you ever found kde a bit flaky and unstable? 1:5 apps crash on launch for me... xfce/gnome and other gtk wm work just fine. adept is very keen on going belly up, fex
[07:18] <linkbelt238> does anyone know the root password for the live cd?
[07:18] <james296> ok, so what do I do now?
[07:18] <PriceChild> tim167: bit it works ;)
[07:18] <tim167> nolimitsoya: its not a bug, its a 'feature' :p
[07:19] <jrib> james296: since you have a bunch of stuff that is root owned in your home directory, I would recommend:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~
[07:19] <finalbeta> linkbelt238, don't use the root account, use sudo <command>
[07:19] <TehBigToe> guys
[07:19] <CoderX> which decoders do i need to run mp3's on Edgy Eft?
[07:19] <nolimitsoya> tim167, id say it isnt, and well worth a bugreport :)
[07:19] <finalbeta> !sudo > linkbelt238
[07:19] <TehBigToe> I have 2 updates showing in the Update Manager thingy
[07:19] <PriceChild> !codecs CoderX
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codecs CoderX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <LjL> nolimitsoya: the base KDE stuff seems quite stable here. then there are some apps that are on the crashy side... which ones crash for you?
[07:19] <PriceChild> !codecs | CoderX
[07:19] <ubotu> CoderX: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:19] <CoderX> thanks
[07:20] <linkbelt238> I am trying to logon to this computer from another box and need login infor
[07:20] <TehBigToe> guys I have 2 updates but when I click on the Update Manager their size is shown as 0, and when I click Install they come up with a "missing Filename: field" error
[07:20] <PriceChild> CoderX: no problemo
[07:20] <Ratarf> hi
[07:20] <TehBigToe> guys I have 2 updates but when I click on the Update Manager their size is shown as 0, and when I click Install they come up with a "missing Filename: field" error
[07:20] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: click "check" first please... see what that does
[07:20] <nolimitsoya> LjL, seems pretty much random. as i said, adept is extremely flaky, and rarely starts up on the first try. with other qt apps its like tossing a dice. firefox, mozilla and the like work perfectly well though, as do all gtk based apps
[07:20] <TehBigToe> ok PriceChild
[07:20] <linkbelt238> both?
[07:20] <Ratarf> I just compiled a lib... But how do I install it?
[07:20] <mikebot> Rug: EdLin: It got past that part of it when I unplugged/plugged back in the eternet cable
[07:21] <james296> now what?
[07:21] <mikebot> I'm going to try to continue with the prompt...thanks for your help
[07:21] <wasabi_> Ratarf: Where do you want to install it?
[07:21] <Rug> mikebot: good luck
[07:21] <jrib> james296: now try to add stuff to startup
[07:21] <nolimitsoya> LjL, this is the one thing (counting out messy menues) that keeps me from going with kde...
[07:21] <Stormx2> What should I use for compiling C++ in ubuntu? cc? gcc?
[07:21] <EdLin> mikebot: when all else fails, check the cables. :-)
[07:21] <LjL> nolimitsoya: "adept" as in "Add/Remove Applications" is extremely crash here. Adept "proper" didn't seem to crash when i used it, but then i use it very rarely. other apps, well, there's KOffice that is a crash party... but that's not even included by default
[07:21] <wasabi_> Stormx2: g++
[07:21] <Rug> EdLin: somedays you just wanna cry.  =)
[07:21] <james296> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:21] <Ratarf> I just want to be able to use it because it's required for installing another application
[07:21] <Stormx2> wasabi_: How do I use it?
[07:21] <james296> IT WORKED!!!!
[07:21] <wasabi_> Stormx2: man g++
[07:21] <EdLin> Stormx2: still compiling something in the universe repository?
[07:22] <Stormx2> james296, easy baby
[07:22] <james296> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:22] <jrib> james296: of course :)  don't run programs with sudo unless you need to
[07:22] <LjL> nolimitsoya: messy menus you mean messy control panel / various settings?
[07:22] <LjL> thank him in lowercase please :)
[07:22] <LjL> and when you do, use gksudo if they're GUI programs
[07:22] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, it's got stuck
[07:22] <james296> yeah I know man
[07:22] <TehBigToe> downloading file 25/35
[07:22] <timtrimble> how do I make it so that my s-video port mirrors waht's on the main screen?
[07:22] <EdLin> Rug: setting up DSL was difficult for me too, because Verizon's activation page was IE+Windows only.
[07:22] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: please explain...
[07:22] <wasabi_> Ratarf: What other app? I'm trying to help you decide where you need to put it, which is sort of not written down in stone.
[07:22] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: wait :)
[07:22] <Rug> I have just installed dapper on a dual-cpu/dual-core Opteron Tyan system.  Should I use "linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7" or "linux-image-2.6.15-27-server" for my kernel?
[07:22] <mikebot> EdLin: The question I have now, is it said everythign is fine, but I can't access the interent
[07:22] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: patience :)
[07:22] <mikebot> Does it automatically connect?
[07:22] <EdLin> mikebot: run pon
[07:22] <TehBigToe> and the last 10 or so
[07:22] <wasabi_> rug, depends what you want to do with it
[07:23] <TehBigToe> show "Failed"
[07:23] <wasabi_> rug I believe -k7 is obsoleted.
[07:23] <Rug> wasabi_: I am using Dapper not edgy
[07:23] <wasabi_> Hmm. MIght not be in Dapper.
[07:23] <wasabi_> Yeah. Dunno.
[07:23] <Oliverro> How can I boot on command line with ubuntu 6.10 ?
[07:23] <Rug> Edgy = too bugy for me
[07:23] <wasabi_> -server has more in it than just opteron stuff. It's got modules for clustered file systems and the like.
[07:23] <timtrimble> how do I make it so that my s-video port mirrors what's on the main screen?  I have it set up for them to be two different screens, but I want it to be the same for both.
[07:23] <Rug> wasabi_: this is just a workstation
[07:23] <PriceChild> Rug: then run Dapper
[07:24] <wasabi_> Then just put in -k7
[07:24] <EdLin> I actually had more luck with Edgy, I wish it were the LTS distro.
[07:24] <Rug> wasabi_: ok thanks
[07:24] <wasabi_> PriceChild: welcome to the middle of the conversation
[07:24] <Rug> =)
[07:24] <Ratarf> but thats what the problem is... I compiled libphysfs, so I have a bunch of files, but now I want to install it as if it were installed with the synaptic package manager. I don't know in what folder to put it
[07:24] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, now the Updates window has greyed out and the cursor goes to the Busy one when I hover over it, but there's no dialogs saying what it's doing or anything...
[07:24] <wasabi_> Ratarf: make install DESTDIR=/usr/local, or /opt/whatever
[07:24] <wasabi_> Ratarf: Do not install it in /usr
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> LjL, ive never used the add/remove thing; only the synaptic like interface. its, as i said, extremely flaky. kde is the same on every machine i own, all exept one being athlonxp class processors and the other being a p3. menu layout is terrible, and the amount of clutter with a standard kubuntu/full kde install is amazing. equaly flaky with either kde and kde-core though...
[07:25] <Stormx2> wasabi_: Bleh there aren't any examples? Could you possibly just give me an example line?
[07:25] <christopherl> "After installation, make sure that the directory containing the installed executables (ActiveTcl/bin) is included in your PATH variable." Where can I change the PATH variable so I can run the program?
[07:25] <EdLin> Ratarf: during ./configure use --prefix=/usr/local
[07:25] <aquarius> Is there a master list somewhere of all the binary firmware in the Ubuntu kernel?
[07:25] <Stormx2> wasabi_: Something like "gcc file.cc" would work?
[07:25] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: patience :)
[07:25] <Rug> nolimitsoya: fluxbox as your WM with KDE under the hood makes for one nice system
[07:25] <wasabi_> Stormx2: There are probably hundreds of examples. Hell, every C++ app included with Ubuntu is a potential example. ;)
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> LjL, one thing i realy do love (and hate the lack of in gnome) is the ability to have an xfce/fluxbox like apps menu on rightclicking the desktop. speeds things up a great deal :)
[07:25] <TehBigToe> again?
[07:25] <Stormx2> wasabi_: Bleh
[07:25] <EdLin> Stormx2: is there any particular reason why you're avoiding using the repositories?
[07:26] <nolimitsoya> Rug, how does that work?
[07:26] <Stormx2> wasabi_: I just want to compile a hello world program damnit xD
[07:26] <LjL> nolimitsoya: "synaptic like"? never seen such a thing :-P a lot of people probably wouldn't mind getting that, actually
[07:26] <wasabi_> Stormx2: It can't be more than a two second read of the man page.
[07:26] <Stormx2> EdLin: I'm writing the code.
[07:26] <EdLin> Stormx2: Oh, OK, I must be confusing you with someone else.
[07:26] <Stormx2> wasabi_: The manpage is huge, man ;)
[07:26] <Stormx2> I'll look again tho.
[07:26] <wasabi_> hmm. true.
[07:26] <EdLin> !build-essential | Stormix2
[07:26] <ubotu> Stormix2: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:26] <wasabi_> gcc file.cc -o outname
[07:26] <Rug> nolimitsoya: Fluxbox gives you ZERO clutter.  KDE as the back-end gives you the excellent app compatability
[07:26] <wasabi_> And you need various options to make it ELF i think
[07:26] <emilia> anyone reccomend something to backup dvd movies other than wine and dvdshrink & k9copy ?
[07:26] <Fleebailey33> printf hello worlf
[07:26] <Fleebailey33> world
[07:27] <nolimitsoya> LjL, ive never actualy seem anything resembling add/remove programs in kde, but what comes up when doing gksu adept looks pretty much like synaptictome :)
[07:27] <LjL> nolimitsoya: as for the clutter... well, the basic, standard KDE stuff (kdesktop, konqueror etc) is as cluttered as it can get, true. on the other hand, a few "third-party" (or almost) applications imho tend to be *less* cluttered than the GNOME equivalents
[07:27] <Rug> emilia: do you want to rip or copy?
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> emilia, none can do across
[07:27] <LjL> nolimitsoya, err, K / Add/Remove Programs :)
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> arcoss
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> on linux
[07:27] <TehBigToe> PriceChild,  now my patience is running out :\
[07:27] <snook353> !fetchmail
[07:27] <ubotu> fetchmail: SSL enabled POP3, APOP, IMAP mail gatherer/forwarder. In component main, is optional. Version 6.3.4-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 332 kB, installed size 1628 kB
[07:27] <emilia> Rug : rip to iso, preferably compress also, the way dvdshrink does
[07:27] <nolimitsoya> Rug, i got that part, but how does one go about setting that up? or do you mean just using fluxbox as session?
[07:28] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: alt tab to make sure t here's nothing hiding beneath
[07:28] <Rug> emilia: acidRip
[07:28] <Fleebailey33> but lxcopy is good all in one
[07:28] <aquarius> emilia: what's up with k9copy?
[07:28] <snook353> !fetchyahoo
[07:28] <ubotu> fetchyahoo: Retrieve mail from Yahoo!'s webmail service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-1 (edgy), package size 38 kB, installed size 180 kB
[07:28] <TehBigToe> no PriceChild, nothing
[07:28] <Rug> nolimitsoya: Fluxbox as the session will do the trick
[07:28] <nolimitsoya> LjL, completely missed it :P and i was giving kubuntu feisty another whirl just last night :/
[07:28] <emilia> aquarius :  k9copy always crashes making the iso
[07:28] <nolimitsoya> Rug, then im with you. i might try that :)
[07:28] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: please be patient then :)
[07:28] <aquarius> emilia: oh. OK. I can see how that would be a problem. Doesn't do that for me. :)
[07:29] <Stormx2> EdLin: I already have build-essential, and I'm pretty sure you need makefiles and stuff for using "make"
[07:29] <emilia> aqaurius : youre probly in kde?
[07:29] <Rug> nolimitsoya: It's my favorite combination.
[07:29] <A-L-A-R-M> under which directory can i find the file which includes the url with the repos ?
[07:29] <LjL> nolimitsoya: also if Konqueror and its menus are too messy for your tastes, there's Dolphin that's a much simpler file manager, much like Nautilus i think
[07:29] <Fleebailey33> i like lxcopy
[07:29] <Rug> right-click "Start-menu" = Heaven
[07:29] <nolimitsoya> LjL, ill check it out. thank you :)
[07:29] <EdLin> Stormx2: most of the time those are automatically created with autoconf making a configure file
[07:29] <LjL> nolimitsoya: also if you base your stability statistics on Feisty, well :-P
[07:30] <Rug> nolimitsoya: check out the gentoo fluxbox screenshots and check-out conky too.
[07:30] <aquarius> emilia: nope, Gnome. When I installed k9copy I assume it pulled in the dependencies it required...
[07:30] <LjL> nolimitsoya: about menus, what i really do like about KDE is mac-style menubar
[07:30] <nolimitsoya> LjL, i was just going to say im not :P this is my experience with kde and kubuntu since dapper :)
[07:30] <LjL> hope that's not going away in KDE 4
[07:30] <PriceChild> A-L-A-R-M: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:30] <A-L-A-R-M> thanks
[07:31] <PriceChild> A-L-A-R-M: please use the software sources program to edit it though
[07:31] <Rug> If you want to see a HORRIBLE kde menu layout, checkout the newest OpenSuse Live CD.
[07:31] <A-L-A-R-M> okie
[07:31] <defrysk> ah kickoff ?
[07:31] <LjL> Rug: well if you mean "menu" as in "the list of applications etc", at least that's very easily changeable so in the end who cares
[07:32] <Rug> LjL: no, it's so bad its funny.  You gotta see it.
[07:32] <nevron> can somebody help me config my dual heads
[07:32] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, still waiting...
[07:32] <nevron> ?
[07:32] <defrysk> about kickoff : http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/?s=kickoff
[07:32] <Stormx2> my hello world program didn't work XD~~
[07:32] <Stormx2> I suck.
[07:32] <nevron> ?
[07:33] <LjL> Rug: i haven't seen the newest one, i suppose, but the one i've seen looked much like Windows XP - one huge menu (a dialog window, really, wider than high) with just about everything on it
[07:33] <er4z0r> hi everybody
[07:33] <EdLin> Stormx2: gcc -o hello hello.c
[07:33] <Fleebailey33> experiences dual booters here?
[07:33] <Stormx2> EdLin: Thats for C++, correct?
[07:34] <er4z0r> can somebody help me with greasemonkey , tails export and firefox?
[07:34] <EdLin> Stormx2: same flags, but maybe use g++
[07:34] <ValMarko> is it safe to install and use easyubuntu to activate plugins ?
[07:34] <hydrogen> heh
[07:34] <EdLin> Stormx2: make files aren't made by humans anymore, they are made with autoconf
[07:34] <Rug> LjL: what makes it bad, is how you move "forward and Back" between different sub-menus
[07:34] <buckweat420> Whats up all?
[07:34] <hydrogen> what exactly would make a hello world program worthy of using c++
[07:34] <Stormx2> EdLin: Okay
[07:34] <Stormx2> EdLin: Well that didn't work either btw...
[07:35] <A-L-A-R-M> mplayer to be installed it says on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer to install it from multiserv repo.  as much i see in my repo list i have a main restricted universe multiverse . is that the same repo ? (if yes somehow i dont see the mplayer package to install it)
[07:35] <EdLin> Stormx2: what is your command line?
[07:35] <Fleebailey33> i installed windows first on a 30 gig partion becuase i would have to reinstall grub anyway
[07:35] <Stormx2> Basicly it's having trouble with #include <iostream> I think
[07:35] <Fleebailey33> and im waiting for that
[07:35] <LjL> Rug: honestly i rarely use the menu anyway... the applications i use 95% of the time are in the quicklauncher (which is nice enough to guess them for me), and the rest i mostly launch using the terminal, or katapult
[07:36] <longwayoff> When ripping CDs using sound juicer to OGG format is there a varible setting like when ripping mp3s? You know like 128, 192, 256 ect?
[07:36] <Fleebailey33> katapult!=quicksilver!
[07:36] <Arigato> is gaim on the live cd?
[07:36] <bruenig> Arigato, yes
[07:36] <Stormx2> Arigato, yes
[07:36] <Stormx2> EdLin: Any suggestions? I'm not sure what I should be including as for libs (or whatever they are)
[07:37] <EdLin> Stormx2: are you using a namespace? If not, you'll need std::
[07:37] <EdLin> Stormx2: /j ##c++
[07:37] <Stormx2> EdLin: using namespace std;
[07:37] <drcode> hi all
[07:37] <Rug> longwayoff: yes, but the scale is like 1-5  (1 being poor, 5 being best)
[07:37] <bruenig> !hi | drcode
[07:37] <ubotu> drcode: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:37] <drcode> I have an old nvidgia 200 card
[07:37] <drcode> nvidia mx 200
[07:38] <drcode> I have video out cable
[07:38] <longwayoff> Rug: I assume as you go up to best the file size gets much larger
[07:38] <drcode> how I can change into video?
[07:38] <unnutz> hello, I would like to know where my BitchX config files are stored & how to disable automatic connection to ubuntu irc server :D
[07:39] <|markie|> bah... cant get xen-machine with ubuntu working
[07:39] <Rug> longwayoff: yes, but .ogg song quality is EXCELLENT.   A 1 or 2 sounds as good as 192kbs MP3
[07:39] <drcode> any idea?
[07:40] <drcode> how I can tell linux to move into nvidia video output?
[07:40] <longwayoff> Rug: Thanks
[07:40] <Okt> How would one use "--purge"
[07:40] <longwayoff> okay now whats better a torrent download or a magnet download?
[07:40] <bruenig> unnutz, it would seem ~/.BitchX would be the place but for whatever reason it doesn't look like it is
[07:40] <Rug> Okt: apt-get remove application --purge
[07:40] <blue-frog> Okt: apt-get remove program --purge
[07:40] <snook353> !spool
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <rambo3> bones in my sudzuk
[07:40] <[sYn] > Does anyone know what the audo player in this picture is ?   http://www.xfce-look.org/content/pre2/49904-2.png
[07:40] <Okt> Thanks
[07:41] <unnutz> bruenig, aha, & there's not any file like .bitchxrc :(
[07:41] <Rug> longwayoff: torrent  (thatMagnet thing is for Azereus (sp?)
[07:41] <Rug> blue-frog: =) beat ya!
[07:41] <minerale> Is anyone else having trouble with apt-get packages? all of them are giving me seg faults
[07:41] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled?
[07:41] <longwayoff> Rug is there a way to speed torrents up? They seem to be so slow
[07:42] <Rug> longwayoff: make sure your upstream bandwith isn't saturated
[07:42] <Montaro> minerale: im having the same problems..
[07:42] <Montaro> minerale: not all of them, but ive noticed php seg faults, and apache has gone a little crazy
[07:43] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled?
[07:43] <PigDogs> hey all
[07:43] <Montaro> minerale: apt-get dist-upgrade'ed about 1hr or so ago
[07:43] <Rug> ok bye all
[07:43] <PigDogs> can anyone advise about upgrading Ubuntu? What entries have to be hashed out in the repos file?>
[07:43] <Rug> Time for football
[07:43] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled??
[07:43] <PigDogs> !upgrade
[07:44] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:44] <minerale> montaro: were you able to fix it ?
[07:44] <nevron> !help
[07:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:44] <hydrogen> so uhh
[07:44] <teicah> im going to a dude's house with cable internet.. i want to d/l edgy updates and burn to cd; http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/ doesnt seem to have a link to updates.. where can i find them?
[07:44] <hydrogen> what does it mean if the installer freezes?
[07:44] <Montaro> not as of yet. i've since updated apt again, but no repositories have changed yet.. so guess i just have to wait until they fix it
[07:44] <hydrogen> as in hard lock
[07:45] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled??
[07:45] <n2diy> why is a .deb package five times smaller than the equivalent tar.gz package?
[07:45] <Montaro> hydrogen: faulty hardware?
[07:45] <hydrogen> Montaro, I don't believe so, it froze at configuring locales
[07:45] <hydrogen> which just seems odd
[07:45] <Montaro> n2diy: because its in the compiled binary form, not plain text source..
[07:45] <hydrogen> it copied everything
[07:45] <PigDogs> can anyone advise the lines that have to be hashed out before doing apt-get update??? PLEASE
[07:45] <hydrogen> I guess what I'm asking is if I do a hard reboot will it need to start over or can it pick up from where it hung at
[07:45] <bruenig> n2diy, it would depend on the application of course. The tar.gz would have to have configure scripts and stuff. So for small applications, that could make it far larger. But for large applications they should be nearly the same
[07:46] <n2diy> Montaro, ok, I'm trying to get Mondo installed here, and the developers want me to install v.2.20.
[07:46] <Montaro> hydrogen: can you alt+f2 or something to get another terminal and see what happened?
[07:47] <Ratarf> I tried compiling the physfs lib with "make install DESTDIR=/usr/local", it showed no errors or such but it still doesn't show up in synaptic package manager
[07:47] <felixjet> !grub
[07:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:47] <bruenig> what is the alternative name for browser. Is it www-browser
[07:47] <hydrogen> Montaro, nah, its hardlock (no keyboard/mouse input) and sounds like everything stopped running in the laptop
[07:47] <hydrogen> the cddrive isn't doing anything
[07:47] <jrib> bruenig: x-www-browser  may be what you want
[07:47] <bruenig> ah x, forgot the x
[07:48] <A-L-A-R-M> for kubuntu 6.10 multiverse repo, do i have to add:deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse ?
[07:48] <felixjet> !mount
[07:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:48] <PigDogs> need help with upgrading from 5.10... anyone PLEASE ;-(
[07:48] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled?
[07:48] <felixjet> !fstab
[07:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:49] <Ratarf> I tried compiling the physfs lib with "make install DESTDIR=/usr/local", it showed no errors or such but it still doesn't show up in synaptic package manager.... What should I do to resolve this?
[07:49] <wrathchild9> hello
[07:49] <asia> hello
[07:49] <dfcarney> Ratarf: I just tuned in -- what leads you to believe that it will show up in the package manager?  Furthermore, why do you need it to show up there?
[07:49] <nevron> nobody is using ati drivers dual head setup? i dont believe it therer 966 people in the room
[07:50] <wrathchild9> how I can look, what is charset on samba server?
[07:50] <minerale> Does anyone know how to read strace? -- all the apt-* utilities are choking on the newly downloaded package lists -- I delted them, did apt-get update and they choke: heres a strace of apt-cache search test: http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~achille/apt-cache-strace.txt
[07:50] <dfcarney> nevron: There may be 966 people, but there's probably only 20-30 actually reading and participating.
[07:50] <amro> I'm getting an error when logging into GNOME on Edgy: something about a message bus error
[07:50] <paradox34690> anyone here familiar with setting up a Linksys WUSB54G adapter with 6.10?
[07:51] <wrathchild9> nv ,hgvfgzljvuhg-zhp io
[07:51] <wrathchild9>  gv6plzuojim
[07:51] <wrathchild9> mhz7 ;<{gh76 ecp
[07:51] <hydrogen> thats not english.
[07:51] <Ratarf> I have an autopackage installer for a game. It checks for all required libraries and says "libphysfs" is missing. I can install it from the package manager, but it's an older version. So I grabbed the source of this lib and tried to install it
[07:51] <Reisiger> Good evening everyone. I got a little problem starting the graphical interface to manage grub. Under "System"-> "System-Controll" there is no entry for "Boot" and using the "sudo boot -admin" in a terminal window tells me it doesn't find the command... :-/
[07:51] <theCore> wrathchild9: ?
[07:51] <snook353> anyone help me with fetchyahoo?
[07:51] <snook353> Failed: Couldn't open output: >>/var/spool/mail/chemicalkook at /usr/bin/fetchyahoo line 1423, <STDIN> line 3.
[07:51] <Ratarf> and I thought, if the lib was correctly installed, it would show up in the package manager
[07:52] <theCore> I think we can say hello to wrathchild9's cat :)
[07:52] <PriceChild> !anyone > snook353
[07:52] <dfcarney> minerale: is that strace output with the "follow forks" option enabled?
[07:52] <wrathchild9> theCore: :D
[07:52] <wrathchild9> yes
[07:52] <paradox34690> driver assistance... anyone, anyone??
[07:52] <PriceChild> !anyone > paradox34690
[07:52] <amro> anyone know what could be causing a message bus error when logging into GNOME on edgy?
[07:53] <minerale> dfcarney: i simply did `strace apt-cache search test &> output.txt`
[07:53] <PriceChild> amro: what error?
[07:53] <willys_fueguino> Hi!!!
[07:53] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:53] <paradox34690> If thats an offer of assistance, i'll take it PriceChild... :)
[07:53] <dfcarney> minerale: use the -FF option (I believe) in the strace call to follow execution into forks
[07:53] <PriceChild> paradox34690: I may not know... just write the question
[07:53] <moonlite> Ratarf: "correctly installed". The package manager has some sort of database or something to keep track of dependencies and what files belong to which package etc etc. "make install" from a source package basically just copies files to the "correct" places on your harddisk. I'd advise you not to install anything but stuff from ubuntus official repos
[07:54] <amro> PriceChild: im attempting to make it show up, sometimes i see a gray box instead of the error box, but i remember something about failing to map a message bus address
[07:54] <dfcarney> minerale: actually, it may just be -f
[07:54] <Desert88> can anyone here help with beryl?
[07:54] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:54] <Ratarf> but I need to install this lib to get the game working
[07:54] <dfcarney> minerale: (I had to boot back into Windows, so I can't check at my prompt)
[07:55] <PriceChild> amro: I've not got a clue what's going on :) - probs won't know the answer either. Would be best to know what you're doing
[07:55] <paradox34690> I just installed 6.10 on a tower, it's wireless and using a Linksys Wireless USB adapter... According to Linksys, they don't have any Linux adapters... obviously, I don't want to have to go buy a new adapter, so I'm looking for help in getting what I have to work...
[07:55] <mhb> hi all
[07:55] <candyban> How come ubuntu edgy won't boot if I have /dev/sd (entire disk)? in my md device rather than /dev/sd?x (partition) ?
[07:55] <Ratarf> the game requires version 1.0.1, and in the repositories the most recent version is 1.0.0
[07:55] <minerale> dfcarney: it's -F, hold on while I upload it
[07:55] <PriceChild> mhb: Hi
[07:55] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:55] <mhb> if I want to re-autodetect my graphic card (Xorg.conf rewrite), what should I do?
[07:55] <longwayoff> I cant seem to get my torrent download above 2Kb
[07:55] <PriceChild> mhb: sudo dpkg--reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:56] <candyban> must be something in initrd because the setup boots fine in dapper ... and in edgy with dapper kernel
[07:56] <minerale> dfcarney: http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~achille/strace2.txt
[07:56] <snook353> what does fetchyahoo want? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37610/
[07:56] <errorlevel> If I remove ubuntu-desktop, will all the packages that it pulled in still be installed?  I want to remove gnome-btdownload so that I can remove bittorrent and install the .deb file from bittorrent.com.  I just don't want to make anything harder on myself for when it comes time to upgrade.
[07:56] <mhb> PriceChild: thanks
[07:56] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:56] <dfcarney> minerale: ugh -- not much more help there.
[07:56] <PriceChild> errorlevel: no
[07:56] <paradox34690> When I open up the networking application, it shows a wireless adapter, I provide my wireless SSID, and I open up my Networking Tools, it shows up in there, but it's not pulling an IP or anything...
[07:56] <paradox34690> any clues?
[07:57] <PriceChild> errorlevel: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package... make sure you install it before upgrades to newer versions, e.g. dapper_.edgy
[07:57] <wrathchild9> I have two PC-s, and on server I have smb share, and on another PC I see it normally, but if I mount it, I don't see hungarian characters
[07:57] <errorlevel> PriceChild: Okay.
[07:57] <dfcarney> minerale: have you looked at "var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_main_binary-i386_Packages" ?
[07:57] <dfcarney> minerale: are any filesystem errors reported in 'dmesg'?
[07:57] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:58] <minerale> dfcarney: I deleted that file, apt-get update re downloads it and then it chokes on it again
[07:58] <wrathchild9> I set guest,iocharset=utf8,codepage=utf8
[07:58] <Slart> Hello.. can someone recommend a good address book application.. preferably one I can share on my lan... integration with thunderbird is also good
[07:58] <candyban> Did anyone setup ati (proprietary driver) + xgl + beryl successfully? (I have a thinkpad T43p and I followed a howto to the letter, but it didn't work)
[07:58] <wrathchild9> but anything isn't ok
[07:58] <wrathchild9> what?
[07:58] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: i reccomend  installing with .deb if possible
[07:58] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: are you sure the software isn't availiable as deb?
[07:58] <minerale> dfcarney: nothing serious on dmesg
[07:59] <kane77> how can I set up xchat to automaticaly send the mesage to nickserv??
[07:59] <kane77> at startup
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: It already took like 6 hours to download it
[07:59] <amro> PriceChild: I've just installed Ubuntu Edgy on another laptop. It ran fine with LiveCD, but when I login through the installed one all I see is the background image. When logging in Failsafe Gnome, I get a gray box which sometimes fully renders with the error message
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> (its the vdrift package)
[07:59] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: what is the software?
[07:59] <lufis> I'm trying to compile an app (VLC) that has a lot of dependencies. I'm compiling the dependencies I want (such as libdvdcss, x264, etc.). Do I need to do anything special to compile -dev versions of the dependencies, or is that taken care of automatically?
[07:59] <dfcarney> minerale: I dunno.  I mean, if you've run 'apt-get clean' and you're still getting the crash then I suggest that you escalate it to a developer in #ubuntu-devel
[07:59] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: vdrift?
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: Vdrift
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> yeap
[08:00] <PriceChild> amro: what error?
[08:00] <PriceChild> !vdrift
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vdrift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <unnutz> kane77, X-Chat >> Server List >> Edit.  Ther's Nickserv password textbox
[08:00] <PriceChild> !Vdrift
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Vdrift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <kane77> unnutz, heh thanx.. I didnt notice there was such a thing... :D
[08:00] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: vdrift.net
[08:00] <dfcarney> minerale: simply put, it's a SIGSEGV...which could be due to file/data corruption, disk errors, mismatching libraries (doubtful), etc...
[08:01] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: Im here: http://vdrift.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=5
[08:02] <narvik86> willys_fueguino: its autopackage, execute it in console
[08:02] <amro> PriceChild: It logged into GNOME and I can see the panels now, and I got the error, which says that themes/sounds/etc might not work properly (and they don't) because it could not find the address of the message bus
[08:02] <dfcarney> minerale: have you tried using a different sources.list?  Maybe the downloaded file itself is corrupt and when it's parsed it causes an error.
[08:02] <willys_fueguino> narvik86: ./the/dir/tothepackage???
[08:02] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: there was a deb availiable :( but listen to narvik86 now
[08:02] <minerale> dfcarney: how would I run a fsck? it tells me it's dangerous to do it on a mounted volume -- should I ignore that error ?
[08:03] <amro> it also suggests a couple of manpages (dbus-launch and dbus-daemon) but i haven't found anything useful in them
[08:03] <willys_fueguino> narvik86: didnt worked
[08:03] <dfcarney> minerale: no, don't ignore it.
[08:03] <dfcarney> !fsck | minerale
[08:03] <ubotu> minerale: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[08:03] <minerale> I'll try that, thanks
[08:03] <PriceChild> armo: run gnome-settings-daemon
[08:03] <dfcarney> minerale: odds are that you don't have filesystem corruption.  I suggest that you start by changing your sources.list file to download everything from a different server, run "apt-get clean", and try again.
[08:04] <narvik86> willys_fueguino: if you didnt install any autopackage's you need to install it from console, http://autopackage.org/docs/howto-install/
[08:04] <willys_fueguino> ah ok
[08:04] <willys_fueguino> thanx a lot narvik86 and PriceChild
[08:05] <willys_fueguino> I'll be back if it doesnt work
[08:05] <angel12> whenever i use xgl/ beryl, when i go to System > Quit i dont have a restart or shutdown option on the menu that pops up
[08:06] <PriceChild> angel12: please ask in
[08:06] <snook353> what does <STDIN> mean?
[08:06] <PriceChild> angel12: #beryl
[08:06] <dfcarney> snook353: "standard input" -- usually the keyboard
[08:06] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, still waiting...
[08:06] <ricanelite> does anyone here use MOL?
[08:06] <snook353> ok.....
[08:06] <amro> PriceChild: That's what was generating the error. It outputs some dbus related errors and crashes
[08:06] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: i think something might be wrong then :) -close that and open up a terminsl
[08:06] <stockfisch> hi folks, ive got a azureus problem... my upload is below 1kB, though it is limited to 100kB. I am seeding ubuntu isos, but this way my share ratio is far from good
[08:06] <TehBigToe> I can't close it
[08:06] <stockfisch> suggestions?
[08:07] <TehBigToe> I click the X and nothing happens
[08:07] <dfcarney> snook353: In Linux, <STDIN> is generally file descriptor 0 -- processes can remap that to other devices, but (as I mentioned) it's usually the keyboard
[08:07] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: try again
[08:07] <saharaab> hi
[08:07] <snook353> ok, dfcarney
[08:07] <TehBigToe> PriceChild,  nothing
[08:07] <TehBigToe> nothing at all :S
[08:08] <iklwa> hi.. does anyone knows how to get rid of the message "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"? I got it when using moto4lin
[08:08] <kane77> does knoppix use apt-get?
[08:08] <angel12> stockfisch, how many other things are you seeding?
[08:08] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: open up a terminal and "sudo killall update-manager"
[08:08] <angel12> stockfisch, and how many leechers
[08:08] <stockfisch> this one iso at the moment
[08:09] <TehBigToe> ok PriceChild what now?
[08:09] <Max-O-Matic> hi. anybody here that has some expirience with NFS ?
[08:09] <angusprune> Hi, On a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10 (just applied updates and installed restricted codecs) I am trying to share a folder over the network.  When I click on 'Configure File Sharing' in folder properties the following dialogue appears http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png  If I try running 'Sudo Konqueror' clicking 'Configure File Sharing' it does nothing.  Can anyone help me?
[08:09] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[08:09] <amro> PriceChild: any other ideas?
[08:09] <PriceChild> !anyone > Max-O-Matic:
[08:09] <n2diy> Yesterday, I had eight updates pending, I just downloaded Mondo 2.2, and I was just informed I have ONE update pending, Mondo2.06, what gives?
[08:09] <stockfisch> wtf?
[08:09] <PriceChild> amro: not sure why the daemon won't start :(
[08:09] <stockfisch> somehow my complete network seems to be messed up
[08:10] <PriceChild> !anyone > Max-O-Matic
[08:10] <PriceChild> !anyone > Max-O-Matic
[08:10] <n2diy> Also dpkp complained I was down grading from Mondo 2.06, to Mondo 2.2!?
[08:10] <amro> pricechild: do you think its possible reinstallation will fix this? since i can login can I just reinstall some specific packages?
[08:10] <stockfisch> azureus just crashed and kicked xchat, too
[08:10] <PriceChild> !anyone | Max-O-Matic
[08:10] <ubotu> Max-O-Matic: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:11] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:11] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: which ones failed? look up a bit
[08:11] <ompaul> !anyone | Max-O-Matic
[08:11] <ubotu> Max-O-Matic: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:11] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: infact... pastebin the entire lot
[08:11] <aristocrat> hey guys, anyone have an idea of how i can initiatise an rpm db in ubuntu ?
[08:11] <TehBigToe> ok
[08:11] <ompaul> PriceChild, they had left
[08:12] <PriceChild> ompaul: never saw the exit message :(
[08:12] <n2diy> aristocrat:  Alien will translate RPMs to .debs.
[08:12] <PriceChild> !pastebin > TehBigToe
[08:12] <ompaul> PriceChild, you can't catch 100%
[08:12] <PriceChild> I'll live :)
[08:12] <ompaul> !alien
[08:12] <Max-O-Matic> ive set up nfs between my PC(dapper 6.06) and my small laptop(breezy5.04)... i can only mount   with : mount -a      and not with mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx
[08:12] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:12] <Max-O-Matic> andso on
[08:12] <stockfisch> i have possibly found the error...
[08:12] <aristocrat> but there is rpm package available in the repos.
[08:12] <stockfisch> java takes 99% cpu
[08:12] <stockfisch> can anyone tell how this might come?
[08:13] <stockfisch> i mean how i can find out?
[08:13] <aristocrat> i want to create a chrooted rpm filesystem
[08:13] <Max-O-Matic> when i mount with mount -t  it gives back an error:  that reads that i have no privleges
[08:13] <n2diy> aristocrat:  go for it
[08:13] <amro> PriceChild: Well do you think I should reinstall?
[08:13] <kane77> does  6.10 (xubuntu) have something like gparted?
[08:13] <yeager> stockfisch: garbage collection or just a crappy java application perhaps
[08:13] <Max-O-Matic> but with mount -a no problem
[08:13] <Max-O-Matic> s
[08:13] <[sYn] > Does anyone know what the audo player in this picture is ?   http://www.xfce-look.org/content/pre2/49904-2.png
[08:13] <PriceChild> !mono feisty
[08:13] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.2.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[08:13] <stockfisch> so what can i do about that
[08:13] <stockfisch> the only java prog i am running is azureus
[08:13] <angusprune> Hi, On a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10 (just applied updates and installed restricted codecs) I am trying to share a folder over the network.  When I click on 'Configure File Sharing' in folder properties the following dialogue appears http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png  If I try running 'Sudo Konqueror' clicking 'Configure File Sharing' it does nothing.  Can anyone help me?
[08:13] <PriceChild> amro: no
[08:14] <PriceChild> amro: i just don't know really
[08:14] <dfcarney> stockfish: azureus is a resource hog.  I'm not surprised if it's using 99% CPU
[08:14] <yeager> stockfisch: azureus is known to use too much cpu. try qbittorrent instead
[08:14] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, whoops
[08:14] <TehBigToe> I pasted it into pastebin before I saw ubotu's message
[08:14] <stockfisch> is it as easy to set up?
[08:14] <TehBigToe> I used pastebin.ca instead
[08:14] <TehBigToe> http://pastebin.ca/282606
[08:14] <dfcarney> stockfish: "nice" the process to lower it's priority so that other (more important) processes can get the CPU time that they need
[08:14] <Okt> I love how if you play with things long enough it all works out in linux. :D
[08:14] <yeager> stockfisch: no, ubuntu package available at www.qbittorrent.org
[08:14] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: no problem
[08:15] <unnutz> [sYn] , something says me that's Rhythmbox
[08:15] <kane77> does  6.10 (xubuntu) have something like gparted?
[08:15] <stockfisch> is qbittorrent coming with a gui?
[08:15] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: please pastebin "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:15] <TGPO> kane77 sudo apt-get install gparted .... now you have gparted
[08:15] <dfcarney> stockfisch: (sorry, sent this to the wrong name before) --  "nice" the process to lower it's priority so that other (more important) processes can get the CPU time that they need.
[08:15] <cortx> all: hi
[08:16] <PriceChild> hi cortx
[08:16] <yeager> stockfisch: yes, a qt4 gui
[08:16] <kane77> TGPO, I meant if i want to install it to a computer... I need to partition first...
[08:16] <Okt> I eneded up installing KDE, and now I have gnome working again, so how can I get rid of all of the bloat that came with KDE?
[08:16] <stockfisch> ill try it then
[08:16] <Ropechoborra> !paste
[08:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:16] <stockfisch> i did not have any probs with azureus under suse 10.1
[08:16] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, http://pastebin.ca/282610
[08:16] <TGPO> kane77 you mean installing from the CD .... yes it comes with a partition utility
[08:16] <dfcarney> stockfisch: did you use Gnome under SuSE?
[08:17] <stockfisch> no, i used kde
[08:17] <dfcarney> stockfisch: that could be why.  Gnome also uses a lot of resources.
[08:17] <stockfisch> but i wanted to get to gnome anyways
[08:17] <kane77> TGPO, you know I want to get my dad use it on his computer... (and I dont want to mess things up...)
[08:17] <stockfisch> hmm
[08:17] <Max-O-Matic>  ive set up nfs between my PC(dapper 6.06) and my small laptop(breezy5.04)... i can only mount   with : mount -a      and not with mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/    /
[08:17] <stockfisch> i have heard the same about kde
[08:17] <yeager> dfcarney: that is not completely correct. gnome uses not much more resources than kde
[08:18] <stockfisch> thats why i changed to gnome
[08:18] <dfcarney> stockfisch: yeager's suggestion to switch to another application may help
[08:18] <hydrogen> gnomes just uglier
[08:18] <TGPO> kane77: dont take this the wrong way, but if your afraid of breaking other people's stuff then odds are you probably shouldnt be doing it in the first place
[08:18] <dfcarney> yeager: in my experience, KDE uses sufficiently less than Gnome to make a noticeable performance impact
[08:18] <stockfisch> well, if firefox would start within the next ten minutes id have a look :-(
[08:18] <kane77> hydrogen, point of view...
[08:19] <kane77> hydrogen, I like it very much
[08:19] <hydrogen> kane77, point of view... gospel truth... there isn't much difference
[08:19] <bytecolor> how do I keep ubuntu from wanting to update my kernel?
[08:19] <dfcarney> stockfisch: can you get to a command prompt?  If so, type "top"  -- what's eating up all of your resources?
[08:19] <stockfisch> i already did
[08:19] <stockfisch> its the java packet
[08:19] <TGPO> hydrogen: Gnome and KDE ugly as hell and resource hogs to boot, the ugly part atleast I admit is preferanse
[08:20] <bytecolor> something in apt-conf?
[08:20] <dfcarney> stockfisch: have you tried nice'ing it?
[08:20] <stockfisch> i will not
[08:20] <MUTU> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 64-bit from the LiveDVD. I want Grub to be installed on my SATA hard disk (/dev/sda). By default it will install it at "(hd0)". What do I need to change it to, to install Grub on by SATA hard disk pls?
[08:20] <dfcarney> stockfisch: why not?  i'm curious.
[08:20] <stockfisch> i dont think this would help
[08:20] <angusprune> Since no one seems able to help with my previous question, Can anyone please tell me how to share a folder in kubuntu 6.10 with another networked kubuntu 6.10 machine?
[08:20] <bytecolor> er apt.conf I mean
[08:20] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, firefox -remote "openurl(%s,new-tab)"
[08:20] <TehBigToe> er
[08:20] <TehBigToe> wrong paste :P
[08:20] <dfcarney> stockfisch: well, it's your call.
[08:20] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, http://pastebin.ca/282610
[08:20] <TGPO> MUTU /dev/sda IS a sata disk
[08:21] <tschentz> @<angusprune> have you tried nfs?
[08:21] <FirstStrike> !samba
[08:21] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:21] <stockfisch> dfcarney: sorry for that... this is just because i believe that it would speed up other applications, but it wont help for the seeding problem with azureus itself
[08:21] <livingtm> i am having a serious problem with nautilus. Ever since an update about a week ago, nautilus hangs while browsing from folder to folder. makes my machine totally useless.
[08:21] <MUTU> TGPO: I know. What do I need to change (hd0) to?
[08:21] <kane77> TGPO, I installed ubuntu several times and never had no trouble... (well apart from one time when I already had lilo in MBR and ubuntu somewhat ignored the fact...)
[08:21] <livingtm> nautilus has to be "force-quit"
[08:21] <dfcarney> stockfisch: i understand.  what are your system specs?  how much RAM/swap do you have?
[08:22] <angusprune> tshentz: All i've tried is the following, which is where I came in Hi, On a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10 (just applied updates and installed restricted codecs) I am trying to share a folder over the network.  When I click on 'Configure File Sharing' in folder properties the following dialogue appears http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png  If I try running 'Sudo Konqueror' clicking 'Configure File Sharing' it does nothing.
[08:22] <MUTU> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 64-bit from the LiveDVD. I want Grub to be installed on my SATA hard disk (/dev/sda). By default Grub will try install itself at "(hd0)". What do I need to change the location to pls?
[08:23] <stockfisch> athlon 64 3200+, 2gb ram, 2gb swap, 36gb razor (system), 500gb data + usb rescue disk
[08:23] <yeager> [sYn] : that media player looks like last-exit
[08:23] <stockfisch> that should be enough for torrent i believe
[08:23] <dfcarney> stockfisch: and you're having performance issues?  That's crazy. :P
[08:23] <tschentz> @angusprune ok, then: apt-get install nfs-user-server  on both machines
[08:23] <stockfisch> thats really weird, true
[08:23] <dfcarney> stockfisch: 'dmesg' doesn't report anything out-of-the-ordinary?
[08:24] <yeager> stockfisch: well, try qbittorrent, it's qt4 (kde) and easy to use
[08:24] <TGPO> kane77 then what are you asking? you know what your doing and have done it several times ??? your not making much sense
[08:24] <hydrogen> MUTU, do you have multiple harddrives on your computer?
[08:24] <stockfisch> i just killed java and i am looking up the prog on the page you have given to me
[08:24] <Max-O-Matic> !nfs
[08:24] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:24] <MUTU> hydrogen: yes, 3
[08:24] <MUTU> 1 SATA, 2 IDE
[08:25] <MUTU> trying to install Ubuntu on the IDE slave
[08:25] <tschentz> on the "server"edit the /etc/exports file and write something link this: /home/tschentz/ 192.168.101.101  in one line, where /home/tschentz is the directory you want to share and the IP address is the adress of the machine which is allow to connect to this share
[08:25] <amro> PriceChild: Reinstalling the dbus package fixed it. I suspect a bad CD
[08:25] <stockfisch> MUTU: I have ahd the same problems
[08:26] <TGPO> MUTU grub has to be on the MBR of the "active" HD or on a floppy
[08:26] <stockfisch> grub had to be installed on the first boot disk
[08:26] <MUTU> TGPO: Yes, I need it to be on the SATA.
[08:26] <stockfisch> i disabled the first controllers in the BIOS therefor
[08:26] <PriceChild> amro: well done :)
[08:26] <PriceChild> amro: sorry i couldn't help :)
[08:26] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: getting to you sorry
[08:26] <TehBigToe> ok
[08:26] <TGPO> MUTU your not getting it, the SATA isnt the "active" HD
[08:26] <stockfisch> installing on a slave disk could be tricky though
[08:26] <kane77> TGPO, well I was just asking wheter the 6.10 version has some partition editor... that was all...
[08:27] <tschentz> and on the client edit /etc/fstab  and fill in something like this : 192.168.101.21:/home/tschentz /home/tschentz/tschentz nfs
[08:27] <stockfisch> kane77: did you take the alternate install cd?
[08:27] <MUTU> TGPO: you're not getting it. I need it installed on the SATA. That's what's booting first in my system, and that's where Windows is.
[08:27] <tschentz> this will mount the share directory to /home/tschentz/tschentz on the client
[08:28] <hydrogen> MUTU, hd0 may be the sata harddrive then
[08:28] <hydrogen> MUTU, grubs nomenclature is a bit hard to understand
[08:28] <TGPO> MUTU then hd0 would be the correct drive
[08:28] <MUTU> can't I force it somehow to be on the SATA? do i have to assume that hd0 is the SATA?
[08:28] <stockfisch> MUTU: grub will be installed on the sata only if you disable the ide controller where other disks hang on
[08:28] <hydrogen> err
[08:28] <hydrogen> no
[08:28] <hydrogen> it depends on bios boot order
[08:29] <hydrogen> hd0 is the first device booted
[08:29] <hydrogen> iirc
[08:29] <stockfisch> it did not help here
[08:29] <hydrogen> hd1 is second
[08:29] <stockfisch> not always
[08:29] <hydrogen> a simple way to check
[08:29] <MUTU> first device booted is my DVD-ROM though.
[08:29] <hydrogen> is go to the command line
[08:29] <stockfisch> grub masses up hd0 and sd0 in my case
[08:29] <cchristianTPclon> hello
[08:29] <cchristianTPclon> How do I edit "grub.config"?
[08:29] <cchristianTPclon> I'm getting the Infamous Error 17 again
[08:29] <cchristianTPclon> and Compaq did it
[08:29] <hydrogen> grub doens't know what sd0 is i don't believe
[08:30] <hydrogen> MUTU, go to the commandline, run `grub` and check out tab completion to see what grub thinks is what
[08:30] <stockfisch> and thats the point
[08:30] <TGPO> grub doesnt differentiat hd and sd ... its all hd to grub
[08:30] <hydrogen> if you type (hd0,<TAB> it should show you all the partitions on that drive
[08:30] <stockfisch> during installation configure it asks for installation on sd0
[08:30] <webweaver2006> question - how to set up a serial mouse and does ubuntu recognize isa cards
[08:30] <hydrogen> see if thats your sata drive
[08:30] <stockfisch> but installs on hd0
[08:30] <cchristianTPclon> HELLO.
[08:30] <derFlo> gibts auch n programm mit dem man die CPU temperatur messen kann? (habn asrock p4vt8 mb)
[08:30] <hydrogen> cchristianTPclon, vi /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:30] <hydrogen> or /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:31] <cchristianTPclon> hydrogen: what???
[08:31] <stockfisch> if you deactivate all hds except for cdrom, it will take sd0 as hd0 under grub
[08:31] <stockfisch> very weird, but it helped for me
[08:31] <Max-O-Matic> tschentz    /etc/exports   on server---> /sharedirectory IPserver(options) IPclient(options)
[08:31] <cchristianTPclon> I can't get into the system, can I do it from BIOS?
[08:31] <TGPO> stockfisch: grub see's everything as hd it doesnt know sd
[08:32] <hydrogen> cchristianTPclon, hit 'e' at the grub menu
[08:32] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm trying to make a WinXP install disc from a recovery disc to use with VMware. I have got the files needed, made the iso (mkisofs -o path path) and made WMware boot off it, but it's saying no bootable CD
[08:32] <hydrogen> you can edit it in place
[08:32] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: could you try sudo apt-get update again see if things change?
[08:32] <cchristianTPclon> how do I get the GRUB menu?
[08:32] <hydrogen> then use 'b' to boot the edited entry
[08:32] <Lattyware> Is there a special way to make the ISO bootable
[08:32] <stockfisch> yes, but during installation in the ubuntu setup ist asks for installation on sd0
[08:32] <stockfisch> in my case
[08:32] <TehBigToe> ok PriceChild
[08:32] <MUTU> I don't get it. I'll try installing Ubuntu some other time.
[08:32] <stockfisch> which is hd0 under ubuntu
[08:32] <angusprune> tschentz: how do I find out the IP addresses? the network has a DHCP server, or can I put wild cards in there?
[08:32] <enyc> hd0 ??
[08:32] <fido> hello
[08:32] <jluthman> i'm having big brother (a monitoring tool) and it uses the local ping utility to see if a host it alive - i have three interfaces on this box and it will on able to respond on one interface (so you must do a ping -I eth0 10.0.0.10) - but i don't know how to modify the software to do it this way; can anyone tell me how to change the metric measurement on the interfaces?
[08:32] <enyc> aad hd0 in grub you mean?
[08:33] <stockfisch> yes
[08:33] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: press escape on startup, when you see grum
[08:33] <tim167> cchristianTPclon i mean GRUB
[08:33] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: ok
[08:33] <tschentz> @<angusprune> yes you can also enter wildcards, e.g. 192.168.0.*
[08:33] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, now there's no error messages
[08:33] <enyc> stockfisch: the kerenl will see things like 'hda' 'sda' etc...   (hd0) is what grub sees as BIOS INT 13 drive 0x80
[08:33] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: yay :)
[08:33] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: no try "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:33] <cchristianTPclon> so...  after COMPAQ dissapears, hit esc?
[08:33] <stockfisch> you are completely right
[08:34] <stockfisch> but i cant describe the problem eny better...
[08:34] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, now 0 updates
[08:34] <TehBigToe> :D
[08:34] <Lattyware> Anyone?
[08:34] <fido> hello
[08:34] <TGPO> Lattyware: wrong channel
[08:34] <fido> que cosa??
[08:35] <webweaver2006> how do you deactivate usb at bootup?
[08:35] <Lattyware> TGPO: Not really, I'm doing it within ubuntu
[08:35] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: so...  after COMPAQ dissapears, hit esc?
[08:35] <Lattyware> or is there a #bootablecds?
[08:35] <fido> help. i have an error PCI: Cannot allocate resource region
[08:35] <stockfisch> enyc: maybe this is an error with the nforce4 chipset. it completely ignores the ide and sata bootorder. ide ALWAYS comes first
[08:35] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: something like that yes, you have to watch your screen closely, and hit esc as soon as GRUB shows up
[08:36] <amro> PriceChild: Thanks a lot for helping!
[08:36] <cchristianTPclon> ok trying
[08:36] <dfcarney> Lattyware: yeah, but that's like saying that you need help with an online site because you surf the web from a browser in Ubuntu.
[08:36] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: good luck :-D
[08:36] <cchristianTPclon> oops!  I had it
[08:36] <LinTux> When I go into the Gimp I get a paint trail on the cursor, how can I turn it off
[08:36] <Remaille> hi
[08:36] <Lattyware> dfcarney: I guess...
[08:36] <Remaille> has anyone already used wake on lan ?
[08:36] <dfcarney> Lattyware: either way, I'm sorry that I can't help you.  I don't know the solution to your problem.
[08:36] <Lattyware> fair enough
[08:37] <LinTux>  When I go into the Gimp I get a paint trail on the cursor, how can I turn it off
[08:38] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: so...  when it says "GRUB Loading stage 1.5"?
[08:39] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: yes, actually I think it also says something like : "hit escape to enter grub menu" but you dont have much time...
[08:39] <cchristianTPclon> hmmmm...
[08:39] <cchristianTPclon> no it dosnt
[08:39] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: It says:
[08:40] <kurei> hi
[08:40] <xenonn31> hello, i want to have aceleration graphics in my intel gma 945
[08:40] <xenonn31> what should i do ?
[08:40] <cchristianTPclon> GRUB Loading stage1.5
[08:40] <cchristianTPclon> GRUB loading, please wait...
[08:40] <cchristianTPclon> Error 17
[08:40] <xenonn31> is that possible?
[08:40] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: I'm not sure, maybe it only allows this menu if you have multiple kernels/os-es installed...?
[08:41] <cchristianTPclon> I have XP and Ubuntu
[08:41] <xenonn31> I learnt, something about beryl, aiglx k is that what i should install ?
[08:41] <cchristianTPclon> it's a Compaq Presario V5000
[08:41] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: yes, but maybe, that error message means grub could not load
[08:41] <kurei> i've installed java 6 on my machine... unfortunately its not listed when i do a sudo update-alternatives --configure java. Does anyone know how to set my default jre to 1.6?
[08:41] <cchristianTPclon> CTO
[08:41] <eddie> I can print with ubunta, but i can't print with suse, why/what is this
[08:42] <cchristianTPclon> no, the COMPAQ support person showed me this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[08:42] <cchristianTPclon> it say what error 17 is
[08:44] <cchristianTPclon> eddie: "restore Partition"?
[08:44] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: your HD partition seems to be broken
[08:44] <Hoxzer> I get "you need a flashplayer" notices from sites although I have flashplugin-nonfree installed what causes this?
[08:44] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: huh?
[08:45] <yeager> stockfisch: did you like qbittorrent?
[08:45] <jrib> Hoxzer: probably you have version 7 and the site wants a newer one
[08:45] <tim167> cchristianTPclon:  at least: grub cannot load the partition its supposed to, see your link : " This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB."
[08:46] <jrib> eddie: maybe try #suse
[08:46] <semboy> !nvy
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <cchristianTPclon> hmmmm...
[08:46] <cchristianTPclon> like "unformatted"?
[08:46] <semboy> does anyone knowz about nvidia autoinstaller
[08:46] <semboy> ?
[08:47] <narvik86> nvidia_package.run ?
[08:47] <semboy> yeah
[08:47] <semboy> i just want to run the program , so it will autoinstall nvidia , is there a program that can do that
[08:47] <jrib> !nvidia | semboy
[08:47] <ubotu> semboy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:47] <kurei> semboy, try using easyubuntu
[08:48] <boOkwo7m_> anyone here uses irssi?
[08:48] <jrib> !anyone | boOkwo7m_
[08:48] <ubotu> boOkwo7m_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:48] <n2diy> can locate find just one file? ie just a file called make, and not everything that contains make?
[08:48] <boOkwo7m> anyone here uses irssi
[08:48] <boOkwo7m> ?
[08:48] <Digit0> Hi
[08:48] <mrmist> Hi all
[08:48] <Digit0> the azureus in apt-get core dumps :(
[08:48] <cchristianTPclon> ok, the compiuters owner want's it back, hurry up
[08:48] <jrib> boOkwo7m: yes, what is your next question?
[08:49] <jrib> n2diy: you can pass a regex to locate
[08:49] <semboy> where can i get automatix ??
[08:49] <eddie> why does ubuntu keeps silent when loading, knoppix greets you
[08:49] <yeager> Digit0: try something better, like qbittorrent
[08:49] <jrib> !automatix | semboy
[08:49] <ubotu> semboy: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:49] <kurei> how do i set my default jre to java 6?
[08:49] <n2diy> jrib, how
[08:49] <yeager> cheesus, does everyone use bittorrent? :)
[08:49] <astronouth7303> how do I replace totem with VLC as the default media player?
[08:49] <mrmist> I get a problem trying to browse my samba shares... I keep getting: "The location is not a folder"-errors
[08:49] <jrib> n2diy: man locate  should say.  I don't remember the exact switch
[08:49] <semboy> JRIB thanks i was about to do a mistake !!
[08:49] <yeager> astronouth7303: right click on the media file and choose Run with
[08:49] <n2diy> jrib, roger, RTFM :)
[08:49] <jrib> !defaultapp | astronouth7303
[08:49] <ubotu> astronouth7303: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[08:49] <eddie> #suse
[08:49] <semboy> JRIB thanks really :)
[08:50] <Hoxzer> jrib: isn't 9.0.21* good enough?
[08:50] <jrib> n2diy: heh well it will give you better info than me, let me know if it isn't clear
[08:50] <astronouth7303> thanks jrib
[08:50] <reggaemanu> is there someone that use bluetooth on edgy (with a phone) ?
[08:50] <jrib> Hoxzer: idk, what site?
[08:51] <UbnNoob> Anyone who know how to install multifunctional devices (Canon MF5730) in Ubuntu?
[08:51] <boOkwo7m> jrib: sorry for the redundancy :)  how do I activate automatic logging?  I set in my config file autolog = on; autolog_path = "path/to/log";  but it doesn't work
[08:51] <n2diy> Jrib, roger roger.
[08:51] <jrib> boOkwo7m: did you /save ?
[08:51] <boOkwo7m> save ?
[08:51] <cchristianTPclon> HELLO?!?!
[08:51] <boOkwo7m> it's in the config file!
[08:51] <Hoxzer> jrib: ? whta do You mean byt what site? I installed it via apt
[08:51] <stockfisch> how do i set up qbittorrent to automatically start when i have downloaded a torrent file?
[08:51] <jrib> Hoxzer: what site isn't working?
[08:51] <boOkwo7m> jrib: i just modified the config and restarted irssi
[08:51] <kurei> how do i set my default jre to java 6?
[08:52] <yeager> UbnNoob: have you tried google?
[08:52] <kralc-le> hi, I want to burn an iso file to a dvd, when I insert a blank dvd it gives me the option to burn a disk,, my question is if I drag the iso file to the window will that burn the iso image (instead of burning a dvd with an iso file) ?
[08:52] <UbnNoob> yeager : What is google ? ;)
[08:52] <yeager> stockfisch: set it up as default application for .torrent files
[08:52] <josh_> whats up everyone? question, i have a child who is "about that age" and i need to make sure he isn't going to be going to certain sites with inappropriate material. he is on a windows machine and i am using ubuntu (as soon as i figure out how to get it installed on my c2d box). how do i need to go about forcing his internet through my box to get out the network and what application do i need...
[08:52] <josh_> ...to get to monitor his whereabouts (if there is an application that will block bad content that would be nice to know also)
[08:52] <jrib> boOkwo7m: that should work, what path did you use?
[08:52] <stockfisch> how do i do that?
[08:52] <stockfisch> i am new to ubuntu...
[08:53] <cchristianTPclon> HELLO?!?!
[08:53] <yeager> josh_: set up a proxy cache like squid
[08:53] <killermach> how do I get ubuntu to install on a laptop when X doesn't start??
[08:53] <jrib> cchristianTPclon: hi
[08:53] <Hoxzer> jrib: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
[08:53] <josh_> squid eh? what else?
[08:53] <Hoxzer> jrib: no!
[08:53] <yeager> cchristianTPclon: HELLO
[08:53] <semboy> is there a program calld nvy i dont really know the name , but someone told me , that it could install nvidia by it self
[08:53] <Hoxzer> jrib: http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/ this one
[08:53] <yeager> semboy: envy
[08:53] <boOkwo7m> jrib: autolog_path = "~/.irssi/log/$0.%Y-%m-%d.log";
[08:53] <cchristianTPclon> ok, thanks, I was wondering if I was still here.....
[08:53] <semboy> yeahger thanks
[08:53] <foob> is it possible to ssh to my ubuntu partition from within my windows partition?
[08:53] <semboy> !envy
[08:53] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[08:53] <packagedeliverer> hey guys
[08:54] <cchristianTPclon> yeager: so do you know?
[08:54] <cchristianTPclon> jrib: or you?
[08:54] <stockfisch> yeager: how do i set the default application for a file type under ubuntu?
[08:54] <foob> stockfish right click on it and choose 'properties' then 'open with'
[08:54] <yeager> !defaultapp | stockfisch
[08:54] <ubotu> stockfisch: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[08:54] <jrib> Hoxzer: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/  what version does this site say you have?
[08:54] <packagedeliverer> I'm trying to install Linux Live so I'm able to make a bootcd (college stuff) but it's not really working out
[08:54] <foob> yay i was right :D
[08:54] <packagedeliverer> could anyone help?
[08:55] <yeager> reggaemanu: i do. i use wammu
[08:55] <foob> does wammu have free checking
[08:55] <Hoxzer> jrib: vVersion 9,0,21,78 Installed Successfully
[08:55] <boOkwo7m> jrib: I'll try to use the /save thing ..
[08:55] <kralc-le> hi, I want to burn an iso image to a dvd, when I insert a blank dvd it gives me the option to burn a disk,, my question is if I drag the iso file to the window will that burn the iso image (instead of burning a dvd with an iso file) ?
[08:55] <jrib> boOkwo7m: try autolog_path = ~/irclogs/$tag/$0.log  that's what I have.  That we we can see if that is the issue
[08:55] <yeager> packagedeliverer: live cd means that you don't have to install anything
[08:55] <reggaemanu> yeager, without wammu, if you launch gnome-obex-send, is your phone detected?
[08:55] <josh_> what else will i need to get?
[08:55] <boOkwo7m> jrib: will do
[08:55] <con-man> how do I stop X? the nvidia drivers need it not to be running
[08:55] <packagedeliverer> I know, but I'm trying to install the script that makes the cd yeager
[08:56] <Hoxzer> Now we came to "wtf" point
[08:56] <jrib> Hoxzer: weird, that link you gave me works here
[08:56] <yeager> reggaemanu: i have no idea. wammu does the work for me
[08:56] <cchristianTPclon> .......
[08:56] <netcrash> Hello, does ubuntu version 6.06.1 get's security updates ? ( like for the recent security problems in proftpd )
[08:56] <yeager> packagedeliverer: you want to create your own live cd?
[08:56] <oskude> kralc-le: dunno, but i allways just click right mouse on iso and say burn on cd/dvd
[08:56] <packagedeliverer> yeh
[08:56] <reggaemanu> yeager, can you try it?
[08:56] <Hoxzer> jrib: .....:(
[08:56] <Hoxzer> well jrib I check it some day
[08:56] <jrib> Hoxzer: you have any extensions?
[08:56] <cchristianTPclon> HELLO, i AM STILL HERE, NO CHANG IN THE QUESTION I AM ASKING
[08:56] <boOkwo7m> jrib: nope, doesnt work
[08:56] <packagedeliverer> yeager, need to do it for an exam next month =)
[08:56] <kralc-le> oskude: thanks
[08:56] <yeager> reggaemanu: i use Send to in nautilus to send files to my phone
[08:56] <reggaemanu> i don't need wammu, i just want to send files directly via nautilus
[08:57] <Hoxzer> jrib: yeah, ofcourse gspace and "OOK! video OOK!"
[08:57] <foob> netcrash 6.06 is the supported one so yeah theres updates
[08:57] <reggaemanu> yeager, hum so it seems it is detected
[08:57] <oskude> !shout | cchristianTPclon
[08:57] <ubotu> cchristianTPclon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:57] <jrib> boOkwo7m: what is your autolog_level?
[08:57] <packagedeliverer> and I don't want to use my laptop so I can do it outside college hours
[08:57] <boOkwo7m> jrib: what activates logging?  is autolog = on enough?
[08:57] <yeager> packagedeliverer: http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[08:57] <foob> netcrash for supported software
[08:57] <cchristianTPclon> ubotu: are you sure???
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you sure??? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <boOkwo7m> jrib: unset
[08:57] <yeager> reggaemanu: does your bt dongle work at all?
[08:57] <jrib> boOkwo7m: autolog_level = all -crap -clientcrap -ctcps
[08:57] <stockfisch> thx, it worked, yeager, ubotu
[08:58] <yeager> stockfisch: :)
[08:58] <reverseblade> Hello , I have just compiled my kernel, but the boot proces just halts
[08:58] <n2diy> jrib, I want to locate the command xastir, and not list everything else that contains xastir, like the source files, I checked the man page, and tried -r xastir, but no luck.
[08:58] <cchristianTPclon> how do I edit GRUB.CONF?
[08:58] <cchristianTPclon> ANYONE?
[08:58] <stockfisch> too easy to look at that point... too windows like ;-)
[08:58] <reverseblade> Begin: Waiting for root file system..  it just hangs
[08:58] <jrib> Hoxzer: try without extensions (create a new firefox profile).  What is the exact error string you get on the site?
[08:58] <yeager> packagedeliverer: or this http://lichota.net/~krzysiek/projects/ubuntu-livecd-customization/
[08:58] <jrib> cchristianTPclon: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst     is that what you mean?  And please don't use caps
[08:58] <yeager> cchristianTPclon: sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:59] <reggaemanu> yeager, yeah, i can send files to my comp, but send from the comp doesn't work, it don't find the phone (in fact obex search device with  hidd --search (wich doesn't find my phone) and with hcitool scan it find it, that's weird
[08:59] <oskude> cchristianTPclon: as you would edit any other text file... if that GRUB.CONF is a textfile... (remember: its case sensitive)
[08:59] <jrib> n2diy: I would just do:  locate xastir | grep bin
[08:59] <packagedeliverer> it's not customizing a livecd but making one out of a modified system (so, I removed/edited the stuff I learned at college and now I need to make a live cd out of it)
[08:59] <yeager> reggaemanu: ah, your dongle is not in the correct mode (listening mode or what it is called)
[09:00] <boOkwo7m> jrib: no doesn't work either ..
[09:00] <packagedeliverer> http://www.linux-live.org/ so using this package... I just need to know how to recompile the kernel
[09:00] <reggaemanu> yeager, how can i change that? there is nothing on the key to change modes...
[09:00] <jrib> boOkwo7m: pastebin all the stuff you get when you do    /set log
[09:00] <boOkwo7m> i must be missing something simple ..  how do i activate logging?  is autolog = on enough?
[09:00] <cchristianTPclon> AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE: I cannot turn on the computer, it is not getting past the initial boot.
[09:00] <jrib> boOkwo7m: yes, it should be
[09:00] <jrib> !caps | cchristianTPclon
[09:01] <ubotu> cchristianTPclon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:01] <yeager> packagedeliverer: read more about squashfs. you can create an image of your current system and then compress it with squashfs (so it will fit on a cd)
[09:01] <Zodiac`> after i've installed ET on linux, how to open it?
[09:01] <cchristianTPclon> are you sure???
[09:01] <Zodiac`> like, how to launch it?
[09:01] <yeager> cchristianTPclon: what is the error message?
[09:01] <jrib> cchristianTPclon: state your question with all relevant information in _one_ line
[09:01] <packagedeliverer> k, thanks yeager
[09:01] <cchristianTPclon> ERROR 17
[09:01] <cchristianTPclon> as I said before
[09:01] <boOkwo7m> jrib: OH!  it says autolog OFF !!  Even though i set it to on in my config!
[09:01] <oskude> !patience | cchristianTPclon
[09:01] <ubotu> cchristianTPclon: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:01] <boOkwo7m> jrib: how do i set autologging in the config?  i must have done it wrong.
[09:01] <yeager> grub error 17 means that it doesn't find or can't mount the filesystem/partition
[09:02] <n2diy> jrib, that works a lot better than plane locate, still turns up a bunch of stuff I don't need, but it does tell what I need no know, tnx.
[09:02] <jrib> boOkwo7m: if you edited config while irssi is running it may save the values it had when it exits
[09:02] <Joakim> Hi
[09:03] <Joakim> I have some problems with the program switcher
[09:03] <miniman> Can anyone recommend a good firewall?
[09:03] <boOkwo7m> jrib: is ON and on different?  i.e. case-sensitive?
[09:03] <foob> linksys
[09:03] <boOkwo7m> jrib: will try now ON ...
[09:03] <Joakim> When I open new program, it lays under all of the other programs that is running
[09:03] <Joakim> Understand?
[09:03] <jrib> bytecolor: I don't think it's different
[09:03] <jrib> boOkwo7m: ^
[09:03] <derFlo> HI
[09:03] <miniman> Can anyone recommend a good firewalll?
[09:04] <yeager> miniman: iptables
[09:04] <derFlo> ive got a prob with wmsensors
[09:04] <jrib> !firewall | miniman
[09:04] <derFlo> florian@florian-desktop:~$ wmsensors -i
[09:04] <derFlo> Could not locate or open config file!
[09:04] <ubotu> miniman: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:04] <Zodiac`> after i've installed wolfenstein: Enemy territory on linux, how to launch it?
[09:04] <boOkwo7m> jrib: ?
[09:04] <derFlo> how can i fix that problem?
[09:04] <miniman> Sweet, thanks!
[09:04] <jrib> boOkwo7m: I don't think it's case-sensitive
[09:04] <Joakim> I' try to explain better
[09:04] <Joakim> I'll
[09:04] <Joakim> Say I run Firefox, and opens Gaim
[09:05] <kurei> how do i add installers in my local directory into synaptic?
[09:05] <packagedeliverer> one last question, I have a shellscript runme.sh ... as a noob, typing the 'filename' or 'exec filename' or 'open filename' haven't done much...
[09:05] <Joakim> Then Gaim lays down under Firefox
[09:05] <Joakim> So I have to click on Gaim from the Panel
[09:05] <jrib> !enter | Joakim
[09:05] <ubotu> Joakim: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:05] <yeager> packagedeliverer: ./runme.sh
[09:05] <mc__> packagedeliverer: type bash runme.sh
[09:05] <LePousson> hi guys
[09:05] <boOkwo7m> jrib: where do i set the autolog?  atm i set it in the server section .. ?
[09:05] <Zodiac`> after i've installed wolfenstein: Enemy territory on linux, how to launch it?
[09:06] <packagedeliverer> thanks !
[09:06] <jrib> boOkwo7m: just do  /set autlog on   followed by   /save
[09:06] <jrib> boOkwo7m: but spell autolog right :)
[09:06] <boOkwo7m> jrib: :p
[09:06] <LePousson> I just wanted to know if it is possible to have an ubuntu-desktop acting as a DHCP and Apache/MySQL/PHP server ?
[09:07] <jrib> !lamp | LePousson
[09:07] <ubotu> LePousson: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:07] <oskude> LePousson: but of course!
[09:07] <n2diy> how can I determine the size of a directory?
[09:07] <sharperguy> !ubotu
[09:07] <LePousson> ok oskude ... thanks jrib
[09:07] <jrib> n2diy: du -sh
[09:07] <joni> n2diy: use du
[09:08] <yeager> n2diy: du -h --max-depth=1  (lists all directories too)
[09:09] <jrib> n2diy: or right click > properties
[09:09] <uffiole> i like du * -sch
[09:09] <n2diy> Jrib, et al thanksl, du /usr takes a while to run! I'll try right clicking in nautilus.
[09:10] <kurei> how do i add local repositories to synaptic?
[09:10] <ReinH> Guys, are there any issues with dual booting a computer with two hard drives and using the first for windows and the second for Ubuntu?
[09:10] <nevron> issue?
[09:10] <ReinH> I've never done it, so I'm wondering if there are any gotchas
[09:11] <ReinH> or is it as easy as partitioningo one hard drive?
[09:11] <oskude> ReinH: you just "have" to install grub to the mbr of the harddrive that is set as boot device in bios...
[09:11] <kni1> What file do I need to edit on the webserver to be able to connect to it internally?
[09:11] <mefistofeles> hey
[09:12] <ReinH> oskude: ok, so I install grub on the boot drive.
[09:12] <n2diy> Jrib, did you mean right click on the directory from nautilus? That just tells me free disk space.
[09:12] <mefistofeles> why is that ubuntu doesnt have alsaconf?... any special reason?
[09:12] <duckfish> Is there something like Taskbar Shuffle (WinXP) for Ubuntu? I want to be able to rearrange the order of the windows in the Window List
[09:12] <superkirbyartist> I have a lot of issues with Ubuntu on my old iMac.
[09:12] <jrib> n2diy: look at the "Contents" field
[09:12] <oskude> ReinH: if you dont use other methods (boot floppy). yes
[09:13] <ReinH> oskude: Ok, would I need a partition on that drive for it, then?
[09:13] <kishan> duckfish------ right click on menue and choose edit menue
[09:13] <n2diy> jrib, ah ha, the directory I chose was an empty one, I got it now.
[09:13] <ReinH> Would it make more sense to just put the '/' partition on the boot drive and put /home on the second HDD? I've got 12GB to spare on the first drive
[09:13] <oskude> ReinH: mbr is allready on every hd, you dont need to create it, it just will be overwritten (the ms windows bootloader)
[09:14] <ReinH> oskude: oh, ok. I see what you mean now
[09:14] <oskude> ReinH: MBR = Master Boot Record, i think wikipedia has more info, if you want
[09:14] <ReinH> oskude: How would I typically specify where to install grub?
[09:14] <kishan> !mbr
[09:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:15] <zero_> hola muy buenas
[09:15] <oskude> ReinH: for mbr, it ask on which hd
[09:15] <mc__> !es
[09:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:15] <duckfish> kishan: I don't see 'edit menu'.. right-clicking on windows shows 'minimize', 'maximize', etc, and right-clicking on the window list shows 'add to panel', 'properties', 'delete this panel', etc
[09:15] <ReinH> oskude: ok, perfect
[09:15] <Zodiac`> i write et in terminal, but enemy territory wont lauch.. why? is it some graphic card error?
[09:15] <ReinH> I'm clearing off the HDD as we speak. In ... 220 minutes I'll probably be back with more questions ;)
[09:15] <ReinH> Thanks for the help
[09:16] <Zodiac`> i write et in terminal, but enemy territory wont lauch.. why? is it some graphic card error?
[09:16] <boOkwo7m> jrib: Thanks!  I got my logging working now! :)
[09:16] <kishan> duckfish:right click on the application option of mnue and u will see edit menue
[09:16] <oskude> ReinH: btw, which ubuntu you install ? i remember "old" (dapper?) didnt give you that option thou... meaning the graphicalk installer
[09:16] <Curs0r> hey can someone please help me with xdmcp? when i load an app that uses qt, or tk or gecko or even console for the interface everything is great. when i load an app that uses gtk for the interface it takes 3-5 minutes to load
[09:16] <jrib> boOkwo7m: great
[09:16] <whyameye> inkscape isn't importing ai files like it should.  when I try to import I am getting "Use of uninitialized value in subtraction (-) at /usr/share/inkscape/extensions/ill2svg.pl line 318,..."
[09:16] <ReinH> oskude: I have a dapper CD I was going to use, but maybe I'll try the new (edgy?)
[09:16] <kishan> duckfish: go to system---preferences---menue layout
[09:17] <ReinH> oskude: what would you recommend?
[09:17] <Zodiac`> nolimitsoya, hey m8 :) you know something about enemy territory? (wolfenstein) "i write et in terminal, but enemy territory wont lauch.. why? is it some graphic card error?"
[09:17] <oskude> ReinH: im not sure if dapper was "ok", hope someone knows here (i normally use the alternate old text based installer and it "allways" had that option)
[09:17] <boOkwo7m> jrib: I tried doing things manually (the way I like) but when I did it automatically (/set autolog on  and then /save) i saw my mistakes.  Now it all works. :)
[09:18] <kishan> oskude: ubuntu installintion install grub at mbr by default
[09:18] <ReinH> oskude: what version of Ubuntu would you prefer for a non critical (second development computer) install?
[09:18] <oskude> whyameye: you could try export to svg in freehand and open that in inkscape... and this is (will be) yummy too http://xaraxtreme.org/
[09:18] <ReinH> anyone else please comment too
[09:18] <Fleebailey66> i liked yaboot on powerpc better
[09:18] <oskude> kishan: but does dapper live cd have option in which hd mbr ?
[09:18] <jrib> ReinH: edgy
[09:19] <Curs0r> ReinH, always good to stay current on a dev machine, edgy
[09:19] <ReinH> jrib: how "edgy" is edgy? Is it stable yet?
[09:19] <chorse> ReinH: Edgy, no doubt
[09:19] <superkirbyartist> I am using yaboot.
[09:19] <ReinH> Sry, I haven't been keeping up.
[09:19] <oskude> ReinH: dapper and edgy are stable, dapper just has longer support (and edgy more actual software)
[09:19] <jrib> ReinH: it was released in october
[09:19] <whyameye> oskude: is freehand in the repos?
[09:19] <Curs0r> ReinH, edgy could not be more stable imho
[09:19] <oskude> whyameye: heh ? adobe freehand is the tool that makes .ai files...
[09:19] <kishan> oskude: there is no option of where to install grub .it installs on mbr by default
[09:19] <chorse> oskude: more recent software :)
[09:19] <Zodiac`> enemy territory says: "Sys_Error: Error during initialization"
[09:19] <mc__> Curs0r: I experienced a lot more problems with edgy
[09:19] <duckfish> kishan: I'm using gnome on dapper, I don't see 'menu layout', only 'menus and toolbars' and 'windows', and neither of them have the option to do what I want
[09:20] <ReinH> jrib, oskude, Curs0r: awesome, thanks. I'll install edgy on this one and then upgrade the one I'm on now from Dapper to Edgy as well
[09:20] <bradley_> i was setting up thunderbird but i can't find a systray setting-- how do i get it to run in the background?
[09:20] <Fleebailey66> superkirbyartist, how is it on x86?
[09:20] <superkirbyartist> The monitor's colors are messed up and I have KDE stuff, though.
[09:20] <oskude> kishan: you said that allready, but can you choose on which harddisk mbr ?
[09:20] <whyameye> oskude: oh. So i'd have to move to a Windows machine w/ freehand on it...
[09:20] <Fleebailey66> can it dual boot windows?
[09:20] <Curs0r> mc__, the things that used to crush FC6 on this pc are nothing to edgy
[09:20] <kishan> oskude: sorry i have no experince with two hard disks
[09:20] <ReinH> kishan: So if I'm installing Ubuntu on a second drive, will grub be installed correctly by default?
[09:21] <oskude> whyameye: dunno, i though it was an .ai you made with freehand... i never imported such files in inkscape...
[09:21] <ReinH> kishan: oic, never mind ;)
[09:21] <con-man> how do I set up aiglx
[09:21] <ShminkyBoy> lol
[09:21] <con-man> anyone?
[09:21] <ShminkyBoy> this is weird
[09:21] <Fleebailey66> ReinH, you can install it on the second drive where ubuntu is or you can install it on the master
[09:21] <Curs0r> con-man, you don't really set up aiglx
[09:21] <ShminkyBoy> <-- first xchat use
[09:21] <Fleebailey66> with alt cd at least
[09:21] <con-man> Curs0r: ok
[09:21] <oskude> ReinH: im pretty sure edgy has option (in graphical installer) to select which hd mbr to install
[09:21] <con-man> Curs0r: its not an option when I log on
[09:22] <Curs0r> con-man, that's a pretty well documented procedure at ubuntuguide.org
[09:22] <Aquarius> Can someone tell me how to de-register from launchpad?
[09:22] <ReinH> Cool, well worst thing that could happen is that it doesn't give me the option to boot from the 2nd drive, right?
[09:22] <Curs0r> con-man, what gpu?
[09:22] <kishan> ReinH: one suggestion install the dual boot on hard disk 1 and make fat partion on other hard disk so that u can use for both windows and ubuntu
[09:22] <whyameye> oskude: it's an ai a graphic designer made for me. She tried to export to svg for me but somehow the svg is bitmapped...
[09:22] <con-man> Curs0r: nvidia 7600
[09:23] <jrib> Aquarius: try #launchpad maybe
[09:23] <oskude> ReinH: no, the worst that can happen is that it install grub in hd2 mbr, and that is not set as boot hd in bios, so windows bootloader is started from hd1 (if that the boot hd in bios)
[09:23] <superkirbyartist> How can I use my iMac modem?
[09:23] <ReinH> oskude: right, which would just mean it would boot into windows as normal, right?
[09:23] <Curs0r> con-man, follow this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beryl.2FAIGLX_.28Nvidia.29 but don't install the beta driver, use the normal one
[09:23] <drivera90> G'day. What command do I use to get x-chat?
[09:23] <oskude> whyameye: lol, so, inkscape cant read .ai and freehand cant export svg... pick your blame ;)
[09:23] <Fleebailey66> best dual boot site
[09:23] <Fleebailey66> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[09:24] <oskude> ReinH: yup
[09:24] <kishan> oskude: i think in the bios there is option of booting from which hard disk
[09:24] <ReinH> kishan: There are now drivers for WinXP to read/write EXT partitions
[09:24] <oskude> kishan: yes, but to have to change that for changing os is not a nice option..
[09:24] <ReinH> And TBH I'm less worried about borking windows, so I don't mind using them
[09:24] <drivera90> apt-get install x-chat?
[09:24] <whyameye> oskude: the thing is that inkscape is supposed to be able to read ai with the perlmagick package installed. But I am getting an error and Google isn't helping me. I'm downloading xara now...
[09:25] <minerale> what is the name for the restricted (?native?) ati drivers ?
[09:25] <kishan> ReinH: but it is alwys safe to use fat common to both linux and windows
[09:25] <Curs0r> con-man, son you will be happy like this http://123pichosting.com/images/2614Screenshot-4.png
[09:25] <Curs0r> soon*
[09:25] <ReinH> kishan: sure, but I may run into the file size restriction
[09:25] <oskude> well, and how about searching why freehand cant export svg ? its an open standard so there are no objections...
[09:26] <oskude> whyameye: and xaraxtreme is not "ready" yet, so it maybe doesnt read .ai files...
[09:26] <kishan> oskude if one install the ubuntu and windows on say hard disk 1 so grub will be on one right
[09:26] <dcordes> how can i install beryl form svn? i'm using edgy
[09:26] <drivera90> What command do I use to install x-chat (or any similar IRC app)?
[09:26] <oskude> kishan: yup, with the "old" installer
[09:27] <oskude> whyameye: and ai files and svg are not complitely compatible...
[09:27] <n2diy> driver90 apt-get install xchat.
[09:27] <kishan> oskude: in live cd there is no option of where to install the grup it automatically checks for the other OS and install the grub at MBR thats what happened for me
[09:27] <oskude> kishan: you mean dapper ?
[09:28] <kishan> oskude: yes
[09:28] <oskude> kishan: roger
[09:28] <we6jb1> Hi
[09:28] <we6jb1> I have a question
[09:28] <Curs0r> i'll bet you do lol
[09:28] <we6jb1> hold on
[09:28] <rance> I need a suggestion for a k/ubuntu solution to a problem, the freebsd-games package has a util called "banner" which allows you to make "Happy Birthday" banners on continuous feed dot-matirx printiers, how do I do this in k/ubuntu
[09:29] <whyameye> oskude: xanax is failing on opening the ai file...
[09:29] <Joakim> Ok
[09:29] <we6jb1> I am looking for a motherboard that is 100% compatible with ubuntu
[09:29] <oskude> whyameye: well, i assume ai is a closed file spec, no ?
[09:30] <Curs0r> we6jb1, i have aasus a8n-sli premium and it could not be happier
[09:30] <kishan> oskude: i too have a problem i think it it because of the dual can u help..when i try to hibernate on my dual boot laptop it erases the swap,i mean the swap is no longer recognized and when i press the powerbutoon it reboot and my swap partion is unrecozined then i have to reformat my linux swap can u help
[09:30] <djidane> salut
[09:30] <we6jb1> ok I have a intel chip
[09:30] <we6jb1> right now
[09:30] <Curs0r> we6jb1, what series?
[09:30] <djidane> jaimerai savoir c koi la commande pour reconfigurer le serveur x ?
[09:31] <Curs0r> we6jb1, more info is always better than less
[09:31] <oskude> kishan: sorry, never used hibernate...
[09:31] <we6jb1> This is a normal intel pentium 4 chip
[09:31] <manu__> !de
[09:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:31] <oskude> whyameye: your better of you demand a svg file, as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Illustrator_Artwork
[09:31] <Joakim> I have a problem. When I opens a program, for example, Gaim. If I have some other program open, Gaim will lay under all of the other programs. So, to get Gaim on the top, I need to click on it on the panel. It some kind of minimized when I opens it. Somebody know how to fix this?
[09:32] <we6jb1> I think 2 or something mhz
[09:32] <Curs0r> we6jb1, mobo-wise that places you in a terrible position for linux. someone else may be able to recommend something with that arch
[09:32] <kishan> oskude: as far i came to know when u hibernate the information is stored in swap and it should actually re read from the swap when i push the power button is my understanding right
[09:33] <whyameye> oskude: yeah she gave me an svg file but it is bitmapped. She doesn't know how else to save as svg...
[09:33] <oskude> kishan: or ram. yes thats the only i "know" too :)
[09:33] <Joakim> I have a problem. When I opens a program, for example, Gaim. If I have some other program open, Gaim will lay under all of the other programs. So, to get Gaim on the top, I need to click on it on the panel. It some kind of minimized when I opens it. Somebody know how to fix this?
[09:33] <shaman47> Hi
[09:33] <Curs0r> we6jb1, anything intel made after the p3 and before the core2 was pretty lousy
[09:34] <jrib> Joakim: what window manager are you using?
[09:34] <oskude> whyameye: export -> svg... thats all i can guess, call adobe... and svg souldnt definetly be a bitmap...
[09:34] <shaman47> Does anyone here like cheese?
[09:34] <we6jb1> It says, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
[09:34] <jrib> !offtopic | shaman47
[09:34] <ubotu> shaman47:  is Error: unresolvable <alias>
[09:34] <shaman47> oops wrong chat
[09:34] <shaman47> bye
[09:34] <Joakim> Gnome
[09:34] <jrib> Seveas: ping what is that ^
[09:35] <Arigato> i have 2 sound cards, is there a way to get sound playing on both?
[09:35] <luisgd> Hi, I'm running Mandriva on my sister's computer, and its bootloader has a feature that allows me to choose which operating system to boot into and how long the menu for choosing an operating system is up. I wanted to know how to make GRUB do that so that I can install ubuntu on that machine without having a problem with my sister
[09:35] <Seveas> jrib, someone f'ed up
[09:35] <Seveas> !-offtopic
[09:35] <ubotu> offtopic is <alias> #ubuntu - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 16:51:01
[09:35] <Seveas> !-#ubuntu
[09:35] <ubotu> ubuntu has no aliases - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 10:40:14
[09:35] <Seveas> !#ubtunu
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubtunu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Seveas> !#ubuntu
[09:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:35] <Seveas> oh, ffs...
[09:35] <oskude> whyameye: or maybe its here http://www.adobe.com/svg/illustrator/saveforweb.html
[09:36] <Joakim> Yeah=
[09:36] <Curs0r> luisgd, man grub
[09:36] <Joakim> ?*
[09:36] <luisgd> should I type that at the terminal?
[09:36] <Curs0r> yes
[09:36] <Joakim> I have a problem. When I opens a program, for example, Gaim. If I have some other program open, Gaim will lay under all of the other programs. So, to get Gaim on the top, I need to click on it on the panel. It some kind of minimized when I opens it. Somebody know how to fix this?
[09:37] <Curs0r> Joakim, which WM?
[09:37] <luisgd> okay, thank you, if I have a problem, I'll come back here to ask
[09:37] <we6jb1> So is that bad?
[09:37] <Asder> hi
[09:37] <drivera90> Seveas killed ubotu?
[09:38] <Seveas> yes
[09:38] <Curs0r> we6jb1, i'm just saying I can't recommend anything for you since my opinion of that line is biased
[09:38] <oskude> sorry for ot, but anyone know what software is used here ? (3d file browser) http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zyx1MoNSkw0
[09:38] <Seveas> someone fucked up its database
[09:38] <drivera90> How heartless.
[09:38] <Seveas> I'm pissed
[09:38] <Curs0r> poor poor ubotu
[09:38] <we6jb1> oh
[09:38] <we6jb1> :(
[09:38] <Curs0r> we6jb1, shuttle usually makes something inexpensive and stable
[09:39] <jarlath> I've just installed Edgy Eft on my PIII laptop. Are there any caveats before I upgrade my packages?
[09:39] <Asder> i have a ASUS WL-167g wireless adapter
[09:39] <Curs0r> jarlath, install in health
[09:39] <Asder> how can i install it on ubuntu?
[09:39] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Asder
[09:39] <jarlath> Thanks Curs0r!
[09:39] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> oO
[09:40] <Curs0r> does ndiswrapper wok in ubuntu?
[09:40] <jarlath> Curs0r: how did you know my name in english?
[09:40] <Curs0r> jarlath, i just used the tab key lol
[09:40] <Joakim> I have GNOME
[09:40] <Asder> its a
[09:41] <jarlath> Curs0r: interesting :)
[09:41] <Asder> usb key
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Ubugtu, tell about ubuntu-install jarlath | private
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Oo
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> ^_^
[09:41] <Asder> to connect by router
[09:41] <n2diy> I'm working on my back up/restore procedures, is there anything in /usr/local, and /usr/bin I should not overwrite on my test box?
[09:41] <whyameye> oskude: I got it doing what I wanted. She gave me a pdf file that works fine. I didn't realize this earlier...
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Ubugtu, tell about ubuntu-install _DvP_
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Ubugtu, tell about ubuntu-install l0v3`PiKLi4kA^
[09:41] <Joakim> I have GNOME
[09:41] <Curs0r> jarlath, you may notice that your name appears on the chat when you speak
[09:42] <Curs0r> con-man, wb
[09:42] <oskude> whyameye: happy editing!
[09:43] <Joakim> I HAVE GNOME!!!
[09:43] <oskude> Joakim: and ?
[09:44] <Joakim> When I open programs, it lays down under all of the other that is open
[09:44] <jarlath> Curs0r: On my screen, my name comes up as iarlaith, which is Gaelic.
[09:44] <oskude> Joakim: was it allways like that ?
[09:44] <zim> hi all anyone in here played with gpsdrive mucj
[09:44] <Joakim> No
[09:45] <oskude> Joakim: and what did you do before it started to act like that ?
[09:45] <Curs0r> Joakim, I don't know how to set the zOrder in gnome
[09:45] <Joakim> I re-installed Beryl
[09:45] <markeib> hey when i start the computer i always have an error saying that the wrong kernel module is loaded
[09:45] <oskude> Joakim: ah so this is hapening in beryl ?
[09:45] <zim> i am trying to get gpsfetchmap.pl to work with google maps
[09:45] <zim> any ideas
[09:45] <Joakim> Yep
[09:46] <Curs0r> Joakim, see with that we're no longer discussing metacity, we're talking about emerald
[09:46] <oskude> Joakim: well, beryl has an own room, i think it was #ubuntu-xgl (ubotu is "down")
[09:47] <Curs0r> Joakim, it's a broad based shot but you could try setting emerald to defaults
[09:47] <Joakim> k
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> Question:
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 the Edgy Eft
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> I've been connecting to a Windows Server 2000 Terminal Server.
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> I have been using BOTH "Gnome RDP" and "Terminal Server Client" (tsclient) successfully.
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> Problem: the Windows Server 2000 makes the connection license "temporary" for 90-Days unless I connect using Windows XP Pro.
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> It works just fine for 90-days at a time then starts giving warning messages a few days before the 90th day expiration of the temporary license.
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> Is there a known workaround / fix?
[09:47] <oskude> !enter
[09:47] <Curs0r> whoa flooder
[09:47] <unnutz> is there any free *only* DNS control panel ?
[09:48] <unnutz> (bind9)
[09:48] <oskude> W7DAHawk: and wheres the part that this is an ubuntu problem ?
[09:48] <mc44> !enter | W7DAHawk
[09:48] <Curs0r> oskude, beat me to it hahaha
[09:48] <packagedeliverer> executing a shell script gives me permission denied... while I'm logged in as root, what could be the problem?
[09:49] <Eclypse> hi all, how can I install all debian packages that are within a folder through the terminal?
[09:49] <Curs0r> packagedeliverer, chmod 755 thescript
[09:49] <La_PaRCa> packagedeliverer, the permission is not set to execute
[09:49] <Mogz> Eclypse: dpkg -i ./*.deb maybe?
[09:49] <oskude> Eclypse: please dont install debian packages, just ubuntu packages!
[09:49] <W7DAHawk> Well oskude, I'm using Ubuntu, maybe you missed that in the early lines ... but if this is too specific a question about using a GNome App, just say so dude, I'll go else where, ok?
[09:49] <Eclypse> umm
[09:49] <packagedeliverer> Curs0r was right, silly me, thanks !
[09:50] <Eclypse> I'm not a retard oskude, this is a backup from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:50] <oskude> W7DAHawk: well, youre asking how to not to pay ms but still continue to use ms products ?
[09:50] <packagedeliverer> and La_PaRCa , thanks too
[09:50] <W7DAHawk> No
[09:50] <W7DAHawk> that is not the question
[09:50] <Curs0r> W7DAHawk, you're trying to figure out how to stay connected without a TS CAL?
[09:51] <oskude> Eclypse: well, sorry... it would be normal for this channel to want install debian packages ;)
[09:51] <W7DAHawk> in fact I manage at a MS Certified Partner, so I'm not screwing MS, you got an attitude problem oskude?
[09:51] <orgy`> hi
[09:51] <Eclypse> oskude, lol yeah.
[09:51] <orgy`> anyone knows a tool to open *lit files?
[09:51] <oskude> W7DAHawk: nope, you ?
[09:51] <W7DAHawk> Nope
[09:51] <Eclypse> oskude, I just don't like downloading 250MB of packages on dialup . . .
[09:52] <mats> orgy`: google on it ;)
[09:52] <oskude> Eclypse: did you try: sudo dpkg -i *.deb ?
[09:52] <Eclypse> oskude, yes, and it's working.
[09:52] <orgy`> mats did that but fail trying to compile "clit" ;)
[09:53] <Curs0r> W7DAHawk, you need to install a client access license for your machine on the terminal server. yours is a windows question
[09:53] <Capslock118> perhaps some one could assist me, I am using opendchub, I can connect through the local machine using a dc client, however I cannot connect with a different machine on the local network.
[09:53] <extern> I have a problem... I just installed ubuntu and it doesn't seem that it created a username for me
[09:53] <extern> how can I create one myself?
[09:53] <W7DAHawk> Windows Server 2000 does the same thing for it's own Windows Home & RDP, and if this is a well known issue why does Ubuntu even bother with the TSC if at best it will work for only 90-days?
[09:53] <Curs0r> Capslock118, i assume your local network uses private ips?
[09:54] <Curs0r> W7DAHawk, it's not ubuntu that prevents it from working
[09:54] <foo> er, having some issues with ethernet. mii-tools says no MII interfaces found. What modules do I need to have loaded? This is a brand new motherboard and it was working fine yesterday. I had a little issue with vmware and I'm thinking that borked something. Thanks
[09:54] <RichB> I've got an Ubuntu Edgy box one which the gnome menus at the top and bottom are not responding (although strangely the icons in the "tray" at the top right are responding). Is there any sort of keystroke that will bring up something that allows me to kill the non-responding panel app? In windows I'd either use ctrl-alt-del to bring up taskman or use ctrl-esc to do the same. What is the equivalent on Ubuntu? I guess I'd prefer not to do ctrl-del or ctrl-
[09:54] <oskude> extern: adduser or useradd (forgot which is "better")
[09:55] <Capslock118> Cur0r: it is all connected through a home switch/router, and aside from the hub, its all static IPs. However the hub machine currently has the same address its had all this time
[09:55] <extern> I already tried, but I don't think that I succeeded, because I can't login to it
[09:55] <W7DAHawk> CursOr it's an issue RELATED to an app that is included with Ubuntu, if you don't have the knowledge to answer the question, it's not helpful to simply lay it elsewhere
[09:55] <extern> what paramteres should I use to create a default user?
[09:55] <extern> which should be created by the installation
[09:55] <Curs0r> Capslock118, i had problems with routed connections and DC only allowing 1 connection at a time because the router was sending its ip for every connection
[09:56] <oskude> RichB: you can restart the gnome panel with "killall gnome-panel"
[09:56] <Curs0r> W7DAHawk, working for 90 days then suddenly stopping sounds like a cal issue to me
[09:56] <Capslock118> Curs0r: what did you do to fix that? Also, I tried while local machine was not logged in, and it still gave me the issue
[09:56] <oskude> !adduser | extern
[09:56] <ubotu> extern: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[09:56] <Curs0r> Capslock118, does your router by chance have a dmz host set?
[09:56] <RichB> oskude: How do I issue the command killall ? That's my problem you see
[09:57] <W7DAHawk> Great, thanks fot the help, sheez. THis is joke
[09:57] <Curs0r> what an idiot, he just didn't read the server 2000 ts manual
[09:57] <Capslock118> Curs0r: i could have a machine set to dmz, but I currently do now, plus, I think that is only for external network connections
[09:57] <Capslock118> not*
[09:57] <Curs0r> well dc is external right?
[09:57] <oskude> RichB: if you cant get a terminal, you could go to ctrl+alt+f1, login and type that (ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back in x windows)
[09:58] <Capslock118> Curs0r: i am only trying to have a machine that is in the local network connect
[09:58] <Capslock118> and I am trying to direct dc++ to the local IP and not the external IP
[09:58] <Capslock118> i will try that real quick though
[09:58] <Curs0r> Capslock118,  you want something from outside your network to connect to something inside your network right?
[09:59] <RichB> oskude: So how do I get to a terminal if gnome-panel isn't working?
[09:59] <Capslock118> Curs0r: no, machine a has the hub, machine b which is on the same network cannot connect to machine a's hub
[09:59] <oskude> RichB: maybe with alt+f2 (or what i said earlier)
[09:59] <RichB> oskude: Is there any GUI way of doing that
[09:59] <RichB> oskude: It's my wife's computer and she's not really used to doing command line stuff
[09:59] <Capslock118> sais actively refused by target machine...no firewall is turned on either machine
[09:59] <oskude> RichB: you can start gnome-terminal with alt+f2 ?
[10:00] <oskude> RichB: well, you could allso try alt+f2, type xkill and then select the gnome panel with the skull...
[10:00] <Curs0r> Capslock118, is there maybe some internal dc setting you need to change to allow hosts? I'm sorry it's been a while since i used dc
[10:01] <RichB> oskude: Tried alt-F2 but nothing happens. I guess whatever was watching for that has hung
[10:01] <Capslock118> Curs0r: its ok, your help is really appreciated, I am not entirely sure about that, the config in opendchub seems to be set up correctly
[10:01] <oskude> RichB: ah ok, then your best bet is virtual terminal, ctrl+alt+f1
[10:01] <warlock> How to shutdown eth0, and turn it on again? (like rebooting the network) ?
[10:01] <RichB> oskude: Cheers. It's not ideal. Hopefully there'll be something much better in Fiesty
[10:01] <Curs0r> oskude, i'm not going crazy right? that guy was having an issue with his temporary cal expiring right?
[10:02] <oskude> warlock: sudo ifdown eth0
[10:02] <warlock> then to turn it on again?
[10:02] <II`et|Weirdo> and sudo ifup eth0
[10:02] <oskude> RichB: and that would be ?
[10:02] <tjb891> does anyone here  use the ehome netoworking wireless card they were selling for 1.99 at compusa this black friday?
[10:03] <Capslock118> setting the external port did nothing
[10:03] <warlock> I think there's an another ocmmand for this, isnt there? :o
[10:03] <oskude> Curs0r: dunno
[10:03] <warlock> And is there a way to 'refresh' the network ip?
[10:03] <oskude> warlock: you mean sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:03] <eegore> in dapper, where in the inittab is the setting to set the run level to level 3
[10:04] <m12> when I open "localhost"  in Firefox, then click on phpmyadmin, it loads the "save file" screen.  what is my problem?
[10:04] <Curs0r> Capslock118, I don't know what to tell you, other than that you my need to connect to the external ip of the hub if it won't bind to local and external
[10:04] <oskude> m12: php not installed/configured/running right, maybe...
[10:04] <warlock> And is there a way to reboot SSH?
[10:04] <extern> how can I install synaptic package manager? I don't seem to be able to find it anywhere, I believe it is not installed
[10:04] <warlock> restart*
[10:04] <Curs0r> m12, your php preprocessor is not functioning
[10:05] <oskude> warlock: guess ? sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[10:05] <extern> and there's no add/remove option under applications either
[10:05] <spunk_> Any suggestions for a desent viewer for realplayer, quicktime or windows media? (all streaming)
[10:05] <m12> so I need to get what?
[10:05] <m12> php5?
[10:05] <Curs0r> oskude, sshd?
[10:05] <spunk_> tried vlc but no luck.. :-(
[10:05] <oskude> Curs0r: its called ssh under ubuntu
[10:05] <foo> I have an AMD64bit proc .. do I get 64-bit PC (AMD64) alternate install CD ?
[10:05] <foo> probably
[10:06] <Curs0r> foo, do you want to use flash in webpages?
[10:06] <oskude> m12: i did sudo apt-get install php5
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> foo, yes, and no. the 64bit version stil has a lot of problems
[10:06] <foo> nolimitsoya: ahh, ok. scratch that, then.
[10:06] <narvik86> spunk_: mplayer is not working? or realplayer?
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> foo, id suggest you go with the 368 one till those are sorted
[10:06] <oskude> m12: ps. you may gotta "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" after installing php5
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> *386
[10:06] <spunk_> Any experiences from using realplayer?
[10:07] <foo> nolimitsoya: ok, thanks
[10:07] <spunk_> narvik86, have not tried mplayer. do I need Windows Codecs for that or are codecs included with the package?
[10:07] <spunk_> narvik86, do you have any experience from realplayer under Ubuntu? does it work decent enough?
[10:08] <narvik86> spunk_: w32codecs are for mplayer they support wmv but i don't know about other
[10:08] <Curs0r> spunk_, mplayer is awesome
[10:08] <narvik86> spunk_: realplayer 10 works fine with real media streaming
[10:08] <spunk_> narvik86, ok. Ill give mplayer a spin then. Is it better than vlc in your opinion?
[10:08] <RichB> oskude: The ideal UI would be something more like Windows that doesn't require a command line to fix things when the shell dies/hangs.
[10:09] <spunk_> Curs0r, , ok. Ill give mplayer a spin then. Is it better than vlc in your opinion?
[10:09] <ReWT_AxS> i like xmms
[10:09] <Curs0r> spunk_, imo way better
[10:09] <mc__> RichB: why dont you like the command line?
[10:09] <narvik86> spunk_: its much better for video files on hdd
[10:09] <oskude> RichB: what ? i thought the gui freezed... as alt+f2 didnt work anymore...
[10:09] <spunk_> Curs0r, narvik86, ok
[10:09] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, nothing can ever replace xmms as my audio player
[10:09] <RichB> oskude: Correct. alt-f2 didn't work.
[10:09] <spunk_> Curs0r, narvik86, thanks for your help! bye!
[10:09] <ReWT_AxS> :)
[10:09] <mc__> i like the command line,and i hope that i never gets replaced totally by GUI's
[10:10] <narvik86> spunk_: good luck
[10:10] <RichB> mc__: I'm a programmer. I like the command line. My wife, however, is a marketing manager. She doesn't understand the command line
[10:10] <hjmills> mc__ i agree
[10:10] <we6jb1> I have a question
[10:10] <RichB> And the Edgy box in question is her computer
[10:10] <Curs0r> mc__, as long as shell developers make mistakes, the console will be there
[10:10] <nolimitsoya> RichB, if the windows shell dies you are dead in the water. in linux you have the command line as a last resort, without having to boot the install cd in recovery mode to access it ;)
[10:10] <we6jb1> Is there a channel or a place where I can go to ask questions about signing messages?
[10:10] <oskude> RichB: so, if in ms-windows the gui freezed (ctrl+alt+del) doesnt work, you can only restart... on ubuntu you can go to ctrl+alt+f1 and do something for the console... so, cli rules over gui ;)
[10:10] <hjmills> RichB: then lets hope to get to a state where linux users can use or ignore the command line as they see fit
[10:10] <mc__> RichB: if you drive a car you should know something about cars,so that you can fix things
[10:10] <mc__> RichB: it's the same with computers
[10:10] <RichB> Curs0r: The fact is that both Gnome and Windows have the shell dieing from time to time. I've yet to witness the shell dieing on OSX though.
[10:11] <RichB> oskude: ctrl-alt-del always works. It is a hotkey that is not managed by the shell
[10:11] <nolimitsoya> RichB, same with ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:11] <oskude> RichB: what ever you say...
[10:11] <Curs0r> RichB, i don't argue the stability of OSX, i do argue it's extensibility and entertainment value though
[10:11] <RichB> nolimitsoya: You are not dead in the water if the shell dies. You have task manager. Always
[10:12] <A-L-A-R-M> hello, i just installed mplayer from the ubuntu repo and also  did copy the essential codecs in the /usr/local/lib/codecs dir . the problem is that although the avi are being played normaly with sound and image , i get an error on a window : request audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available , enable it at compilation . what could i do to fix this ?
[10:12] <oskude> RichB: and as long computers are programmed with _text_, text based "rescue" will win!
[10:12] <RichB> nolimitsoya: ctrl-alt-del on Windows takes me to a fail-safe GUI that allows me to kill rogue tasks in a user-friendly manner. ctrl-backspace does not
[10:12] <nolimitsoya> RichB, which isnt realy helpfull in bringing the shell to live again, without killing stuff in a similar way to ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:12] <Curs0r> RichB, 2 whole viisual styles
[10:12] <nolimitsoya> RichB, ok, well thats a point...
[10:12] <RichB> mc__: Do you drive a car?
[10:13] <mc__> RichB: nope
[10:13] <mc__> RichB: I
[10:13] <mc__> RichB: i'm 23 i prefer riding a bike
[10:13] <mc44> !offtopic | RichB mc__ nolimitsoya oskude
[10:13] <ubotu> RichB mc__ nolimitsoya oskude: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:13] <RichB> nolimitsoya: ctrl-alt-del allows you to bring up task manager. From there it tells you which apps are not responding and allows you to kill them.
[10:14] <oskude> RichB: user friendly is very relative... and i find it very userfirendly to say on irc type this and that command, rather than clieck there scroll there and heres a screenshot...
[10:14] <oskude> mc44: yeah, sorry, got carried away...
[10:14] <zylche> It's faulty, it lacks proper nanotubes for a net interface crucial for that program.
[10:14] <RichB> ubotu: I started the thread by asking a support question
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I started the thread by asking a support question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <Druidor> 00
[10:14] <RichB> pah - bot
[10:14] <nolimitsoya> RichB, though i must say, if the problem is rouge tasks i dont think ive ever seen those hang the shell. i dont see how linux handles them any diffrently than windows.
[10:15] <mc44> RichB: yes, but it rather turned into a discussion on the merits of CLI which is offtopic
[10:15] <Druidor> http://83.149.73.79:8000/listen.pls
[10:15] <Stargazers> Hi.
[10:15] <Druidor> trying to get 100 listeners
[10:15] <RichB> oskude: User friendly is relative. And Windows is still more user friendly than Ubuntu. Even sabdfl has said so
[10:15] <Stargazers> What is the simpliest way in command line to rename ALL files in folder to 001.jpg, 002.jpg, 003.jpg etc etc etc. Files are now for example kili.jpg, rusina.jpg, 2s4ff.jpg etc.
[10:15] <nolimitsoya> RichB, unix is very user friendly. its just picky about whom its friends are ;)
[10:15] <Stargazers> I just need to rename them 001.jpg etc.
[10:16] <Stargazers> Any ideas?
[10:16] <Curs0r> Druidor, not exactly my genre
[10:16] <RichB> mc44: I don't want to discuss. I just want the next version of Ubuntu to have the feature my wife desparately wanted 10 minutes ago
[10:16] <RichB> nolimitsoya: That's true!
[10:16] <nolimitsoya> RichB, have you filed a bugreport?
[10:17] <Sumit108> Hi, I wanted a simple straight forward answer.... Can Ubuntu access NTFS/Fat32 partions
[10:17] <Druidor> its an acleptinv group & normally can get whatever you want played
[10:17] <narvik86> Stargazers: gnome-commander allows you to change multiple filenames
[10:17] <Curs0r> Sumit108, yes it can
[10:17] <II`et|Weirdo> !iperf
[10:17] <ubotu> iperf: Internet Protocol bandwidth measuring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 180 kB
[10:17] <Sumit108> yeah, wicked, let me start downloading
[10:17] <Stargazers> narvik86: I am using linux over SSH in Windows...
[10:17] <Sumit108> cheers mate
[10:17] <Stargazers> And I have to rename them in Command Line.
[10:17] <RichB> nolimitsoya: I'm a bit fed up of filing bug reports on OSS and getting royally slapped down for suggesting things. So no.
[10:17] <narvik86> Stargazers: oh, yes, wait a second
[10:18] <Stargazers> Thx.
[10:18] <nolimitsoya> RichB, what was the feature you where missing then?
[10:18] <Curs0r> Sumit108,  in fact read/write with ntfs is no problem
[10:18] <hjmills> does anybody know the tiscali dns servers for the uk? (or some that will work?)
[10:18] <Sumit108> oh dats beautiful!!
[10:18] <reverseblade> can anyone help me ? I can't record any voice
[10:18] <Sumit108> my machine went down with windows xp,
[10:18] <vanberge> how 'bad'
[10:18] <Sumit108> and...
[10:18] <nolimitsoya> RichB, also, if anyone gives you a harder time than you deserve just slap them right back with the ubuntu coc ;)
[10:18] <Sumit108> wanted to try linux
[10:19] <vanberge>  how 'bad' is it if your computer just powers off once?  (plug came out)  should i do a file system check?
[10:19] <oskude> RichB: btw, have you looked at system monitor panel applet ? im sure theres a way to open that on ctrl+alt+del...
[10:19] <Curs0r> Sumit108, cast off the commercial shackles of win32 and join the revolution
[10:19] <gpd> any reason why this wireless card would work in Dapper out of the box - but not at all after Edgy upgrade?  D-Link DWL-G520
[10:19] <restiz> hi
[10:19] <nolimitsoya> oskude, RichB, one could always use gnomes keybinder to bind to the taskmanager
[10:19] <Sumit108> I'm not that prepared yet, like to you thunderbird and photoshop
[10:20] <Sumit108> i mean, I like to use
[10:20] <tiago> OIIIIIII
[10:20] <Pelo> gpd,  just perform modem setup from scratch again
[10:20] <RichB> nolimitsoya: A keystroke that will bring up system monitor even when gnome-panel is hung/dead. That way, it can be used for killing/restarting gnome-panel in a dire situation.
[10:20] <Curs0r> Sumit108, the Gimp is pretty much photoshop and thunderbird works fine in linux
[10:20] <nolimitsoya> Sumit108, thunderbird is no problem, and instead of photoshop you have the gimp
[10:20] <Sumit108> hmm,
[10:20] <gpd> Pelo: modem?
[10:20] <tiago> IMPRESSORA LEXMARK Z513
[10:20] <Sumit108> with all the layers, and stuff, filters?
[10:20] <Pelo> gpd wireless
[10:20] <vanberge> is it necessary to perform a file sysstem check in ubuntu if the system crashes ?
[10:20] <nolimitsoya> Sumit108, yes, all that stuff
[10:21] <Curs0r> Sumit108, yup
[10:21] <evil_> In flash videos, is sound being off with the video a documented problem?
[10:21] <Curs0r> Sumit108, it even takes photoshop plugins
[10:21] <nolimitsoya> Sumit108, thunderbird can be installed with just typing 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird' in a terminal
[10:21] <gpd> Pelo: you mean in Gnome Networking Wireless setup?
[10:21] <Sumit108> only one way to find out.... yeah that sounds like the shiznit
[10:21] <Pelo> gpd,  yes
[10:21] <Stargazers> narvik86: Do you find?
[10:21] <Sumit108> ah,
[10:21] <RichB> hjmills: Just use public DNS servers. eg 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1
[10:21] <Sumit108> wat about bluetooth??
[10:21] <RichB> They're very fast DNS servers
[10:21] <derFlo> how can i mount sysfs and libsensors?
[10:22] <we6jb1> ow
[10:22] <Curs0r> Sumit108, gotcha covered
[10:22] <Sumit108> tell me the truth???
[10:22] <hjmills> RichB: thanks
[10:22] <narvik86> Stargazers: i have it, but need to change few things
[10:22] <nolimitsoya> RichB, i don think the task manager in gnome is dependant on the panel, so just bind the shortcut you want :) file a bugreport suggesting making ctrl+alt+del the deafult shortcut
[10:22] <whyameye> evil_: yes. But flash9 solves it.
[10:22] <Sumit108> yeah!!!
[10:22] <Stargazers> narvik86: Ok.
[10:22] <Curs0r> Sumit108, really, prepare to be very happy
[10:23] <nolimitsoya> RichB, i cant realy say if itll work when gnome-panel is hung - since i dont use gnome but xfce - but there is realy nothing to loose in trying
[10:23] <Curs0r> Sumit108,  can your xp do this? http://123pichosting.com/images/2614Screenshot-4.png
[10:23] <depi> Hi all, anyone there own Canon Pixma MP600 multifunctional printer? Is there good support for Canon printers in Linux?
[10:23] <Sumit108> hold on
[10:23] <Blah93> hey...anyone know where i can find beryl-manager?
[10:23] <Pelo> depi,  it is decent,  i got my old  bj 230 to work with no problem
[10:23] <loos> Hi guys, any idea why Ubuntu installer says "No root file system" on step 5 of 6 even though I've selected sda3 to be mounted at /?
[10:24] <Curs0r> Blah93, did you already install it?
[10:24] <we6jb1> how do I hash stuff?
[10:24] <nolimitsoya> Sumit108, its worth noting that beryl (what that photo depicts) is still experimental and very much broken
[10:24] <Sumit108> wat Da!!!,
[10:24] <Sanne> depi: you can check here: http://linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Canon
[10:24] <Blah93> curs0r: im trying to install beryl now.
[10:24] <Sumit108> like looking glass by sun?
[10:24] <ricanelite> who here uses Apollon?
[10:24] <Druidor> irc://irc.gigadactyl.com/potukchillzone & http://83.149.73.79:8000/listen.pls trying to hit 100 people
[10:24] <Blah93> curs0r: the ubuntu.beryl-project.org mirror is down, as i can not apt-get anything.
[10:24] <graft> Blah93: there's repos links at beryl-project.org
[10:24] <graft> oh... um
[10:24] <Sumit108> is it stable?
[10:24] <Curs0r> nolimitsoya, what's broken in beryl? i have absolutely no trouble with it
[10:24] <Blah93> graft: i looked, but there is only the source for beryl-manager
[10:24] <CactusWiZaRd> loos: has your installation failed in some way?
[10:24] <nolimitsoya> !worksforme | Curs0r
[10:24] <ubotu> Curs0r: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:25] <graft> deb http://beryl-mirror.lupine.me.uk/ edgy main
[10:25] <RichB> nolimitsoya: I'm impressed that Launchpad has a much easier bug page than bugzilla.
[10:25] <CactusWiZaRd> loos: because i had that same problem
[10:25] <Blah93> graft: I will try that
[10:25] <loos> I can't go forward, I just get the little exclamation mark
[10:25] <Blah93> brb
[10:25] <evil_> Where can I get flash 9, the website only lets me download 7
[10:25] <nolimitsoya> RichB, yes its nice isnt it :) and it integrates projects very well too :)
[10:25] <loos> I put the CD in the drive, started Safe mode GUI and double clicked on the install
[10:25] <CactusWiZaRd> loos: just shut your computer down and try tomorrow, at leasdt that worked for me
[10:25] <whyameye> Sumit108: I'm tuning in late. You are thinking about switching from Windows to Linux and you are worried about losing Photoshop? You can try Gimp on Windows first.
[10:25] <loos> something special about mondays? :)
[10:25] <nolimitsoya> evil_, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree flashplayer-nonfree
[10:26] <Sumit108> hmm,
[10:26] <nolimitsoya> evil_, provided you have the packports repo enabled
[10:26] <Sumit108> my windows os is crashing
[10:26] <whyameye> nolimitsoya: that will give him flash 7.
[10:26] <Sumit108> using a live cd
[10:26] <nolimitsoya> whyameye, no, it wont. since some weeks back :)
[10:26] <Curs0r> nolimitsoya, also, i was merely providing that pic to show that linux offers options far eyond the scope of xp
[10:26] <Blah93> graft: could you please repeat that mirror again?
[10:26] <Stargazers> Well now it works...
[10:27] <whyameye> nolimitsoya: are you talking dapper or edgy?
[10:27] <Sumit108> dont any one here use windows, or a dual boot?
[10:27] <CactusWiZaRd> loos: no, but i recommend it
[10:27] <hjmills> gah - are there any recent speed problems with firefox - irc is fine but web browsing is real slow
[10:27] <Curs0r> beyond*
[10:27] <Blah93> sumit: i do
[10:27] <nolimitsoya> Curs0r, im not disputing that. just wanted to make sure he knew that its not guaranteed to work :)
[10:27] <Sumit108> yes mate
[10:27] <hjmills> Sumit108: I do on my lappy
[10:27] <Sumit108> yeah, show da love
[10:27] <II`et|Weirdo> iperf -c local ip gave me the following: connection failed, refused write1 failed write2 failed broken pipe. I did the test because the speed of my ethernet connection is very poor (4kb/s) disabled ipv6, and all other possible ways mentioned on forums. Maybe another idea ?
[10:27] <Curs0r> nolimitsoya, ^^
[10:27] <CactusWiZaRd> loos: it works pretty well when your computer has cooled down a bit
[10:27] <nolimitsoya> whyameye, edgy, feisty. think its in dapper too, but as i said, you need the backports repo
[10:27] <mc44> Blah93: deb http://beryl-mirror.lupine.me.uk/ edgy main
[10:27] <CactusWiZaRd> loos: even though i haven't tried with Safety GUI
[10:27] <hjmills> Sumit108: tis unfortunate but I am currently needing to develop in MS Access
[10:27] <whyameye> nolimitsoya: I have the backports and it gave me 7 a week ago.
[10:27] <tony22> hi! im need to write a shell script that takes a file name ex: hello.wmv.001 and passes it on to cat like this cat hello.wmv.0??>hello.wmv , can this be done in bash alone or do i need to use some other language?
[10:27] <whyameye> whyameye: I'm on dapper
[10:28] <Sumit108> ah, access...
[10:28] <nolimitsoya> whyameye, thats strange indeed :) try again :)
[10:28] <whyameye> evil_: maybe nolimitsoya is right about flash9 now in the repos. If not, I followed the directions here: http://dschneller.blogspot.com/2006/10/flash-9-beta-in-ubuntu-dapper.html
[10:28] <ReWT_AxS> can someone please help me figure out what sound driver i need?
[10:28] <CactusWiZaRd> loos: what's the reason to use safety gui anyway?
[10:28] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, what chip?
[10:28] <hjmills> ReWT_AxS: check out the http://alsa-project.org
[10:28] <loos> I got a garbled UI when I didn't
[10:28] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno what chip
[10:28] <ReWT_AxS> how do i check
[10:28] <Blah93> graft: I added that to my sources.list, and typed 'sudo apt-get beryl-manager' but this is my output: Reading package lists... Done
[10:28] <Blah93> Building dependency tree
[10:28] <Blah93> Reading state information... Done
[10:28] <Blah93> E: Couldn't find package beryl-manager
[10:28] <evil_> tthanks whyameye
[10:28] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, lspci -v
[10:29] <Koala23> anything better then Totem for videos ?
[10:29] <hjmills> Blah93: if you are pasting use a paste bin
[10:29] <Blah93> koala: use vlc or mplayer
[10:29] <II`et|Weirdo> Koala23 --\> vlc :p
[10:29] <hjmills> Koala23: depends - totem-xine is way better than totem-gstreamer
[10:29] <Curs0r> Koala23, mplayer
[10:29] <Sumit108> umm, is there anything obvious, that linux cant do...
[10:29] <Blah93> hjmills: whats a paste bin?
[10:29] <CactusWiZaRd> loos: oh, but seriously, shut it down, let it cool over night and start it tomorrow, it should work
[10:29] <Blah93> hjmills: from what i know i'm not 'pasting'
[10:29] <whyameye> evil_, nolimitsoya: it *does* appear that the backports for dapper include version 9. So I stand corrected. Sorry.
[10:29] <Koala23> i have both install but by default the system uses Totem, how can i change that ?
[10:30] <ReWT_AxS> Curs0r, http://pastebin.ca/282785
[10:30] <hjmills> Sumit108: tuck you up in bed, make your supper, monitor your fridge (oh no, scratch that last one)
[10:30] <nolimitsoya> whyameye, no problem :)
[10:30] <ReWT_AxS> says unknown?
[10:30] <hjmills> !pastebin > Blah93
[10:31] <Sumit108> yep... I dont think my machin has dual processor support yet, or a central food processing unit
[10:31] <hjmills> Sumit108: but for computery tasks you may have problems with some games but cedega rocks
[10:31] <Blah93> jkmills: huh?
[10:31] <aliendream23> quick question how do I terminate or totally end my x session and switch to console, please?
[10:31] <phildar> hello all
[10:31] <Sumit108> nah, not much for games,
[10:31] <RichB> nolimitsoya, oskude: Thanks for your help. #76214 filed.
[10:31] <II`et|Weirdo> Koala23; open a file browser, right click avi file , properties, tab Open with
[10:31] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, amd?
[10:31] <Sumit108> mayb chess
[10:31] <ReWT_AxS> it's a compaq dx220 microtower
[10:31] <ReWT_AxS> trhe 524
[10:31] <hjmills> aliendream23: press ctrl alt and f1 to get to the term , login and use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[10:31] <narvik86> Stargazers: i sent you pm
[10:31] <ReWT_AxS> nah p4
[10:31] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, oh boy, compaq
[10:31] <the_rick> Hey all.  I've been using SuSE 10.1 which has been horrible and I'm getting ready to scrap it and go to 10.2, but I thought I'd give ubuntu a shot also.  Just wondering on thoughts of Dapper vs Edgy.  I don't have to have the MOST stable thing out there, but I think I've heard some problems with Edgy.
[10:32] <nolimitsoya> RichB, thank you very much :) bugreporting is what keeps this project going :)
[10:32] <ReWT_AxS> internal speakers built into tower
[10:32] <ReWT_AxS> -.-
[10:32] <Blah93> does anybody know where i can get beryl-manager?
[10:32] <aliendream23> thanks
[10:32] <nolimitsoya> !beryl | Blah93
[10:32] <ubotu> Blah93: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:32] <ReWT_AxS> Blah93, sudo apt-get install beryl
[10:32] <Blah93> ReWT_AxS: doesn't work
[10:33] <Arigato> does the live cd have the remove desktop feature?
[10:33] <II`et|Weirdo> is here someone who experienced heavy ethernet problems (very very low speed 4kb/s isntead of 1.0MBit/s) and who fixed it
[10:33] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, it's a realtek chip if that helps
[10:33] <ReWT_AxS> Curs0r, so what do i do
[10:33] <ReWT_AxS> :-\
[10:33] <Arigato> *does the live cd have the remote desktop feature?
[10:33] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, most likely an alc800 or 850
[10:33] <ReWT_AxS> i really need sound
[10:33] <ReWT_AxS> it's for work
[10:33] <hjmills> would you recommend installing kernel updates on a pc you never restart (i.e. a server)
[10:34] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, easy answer, go buy a sound blaster live
[10:34] <amorphous_> evening all
[10:34] <nolimitsoya> hjmills, no, never. always take your servers ofline for kernel upgrades
[10:34] <RichB> hjmills: If it's a security update, yes
[10:34] <hjmills> Arigato: yes i think
[10:34] <amorphous_> i was wondering....
[10:34] <ReWT_AxS> Curs0r, I don't wanna send no money lol
[10:34] <ReWT_AxS> i just want these to work
[10:35] <Blah93> hjmills: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37626/
[10:35] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, sometimes people get lucky installing random realtek drivers in linux but the odds that you are going to find something that works for you are slim
[10:35] <hjmills> nolimitsoya: its not a major server - it runs my home dhcp and does my downloads but is it worth installing kernel updates when they are available on apt
[10:35] <Stargazers> narvik86: Thx.
[10:35] <nolimitsoya> hjmills, since they might include security updates, yes, always make sure to get them
[10:35] <reverseblade> Anyone experienced with ALSA her ?
[10:35] <reverseblade> here
[10:35] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, that spu has been kludged up by so many manufacturers that there are literally hundreds of versions of that chip
[10:36] <Sumit108> right room, I'm off, thank you for your advice, check you later on linux
[10:36] <amorphous_> could anyone offer some asvise as to a decent pdf viewer that can give me the options to fit 2 pages onto one(a4) as xubuntu's Evince doesn't seem to... I wondered id it was the printer drivers but i've tried a couple of different drivers with no difference... :(
[10:36] <aliendream23> sorry, could someone repost that how to stop x for me??
[10:36] <ReWT_AxS> i just found this
[10:36] <ReWT_AxS> Realtek ALC861 High Definition audio codec
[10:36] <Curs0r> Sumit108, good luck
[10:36] <hjmills> aliendream23: press ctrl alt and f1 to get to the term , login and use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[10:36] <ReWT_AxS> 3D audio compliant with AC'97 Rev. 2.3 and HD Audio compatible
[10:36] <Sumit108> now where did i leave that hammer??
[10:37] <aliendream23> thanks
[10:37] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, the fact that ATI is involved in your chipset scares me a bit too
[10:37] <BlackHawk> gn8
[10:37] <ReWT_AxS> well
[10:37] <amorphous_> anyone...???
[10:37] <ReWT_AxS> what do i do now
[10:38] <Curs0r> amorphous_, adobe reader
[10:38] <whyameye> amorphous_: I use adobe's reader.
[10:39] <Curs0r> amorphous_, funny that you'd come here and get impatient before trying an obvious option
[10:39] <amorphous_> Curs0r, fair shout. was hoping for a more 'free' app, but if thats the only way to cut my paper consumption by 50% then it's gotta be a winner, eh?
[10:39] <ReWT_AxS> o_O
[10:39] <spunk_> Q: where can I get hold of the w32codecs package?
[10:39] <amorphous_> Curs0r, sorry - truth be known I tried a few, but did't see the woods fr the trees :/
[10:39] <Curs0r> spunk_ look at the ubuntuguide
[10:39] <GlennBrit> I am trying to install 6.10 on a Gateway laptop, and the install app always locks up after displaying the language selection screen, any ideas?
[10:40] <spunk_> Curs0r, ok
[10:40] <hjmills> GlennBrit: try the alternate install if u can
[10:40] <whyameye> amorphous_: anyway I checked and Adobe reader does facing pages like you are looking for...
[10:40] <amorphous_> been getting a headache trying to get my opera mail into thunderbird on my fresh xubuntu install.
[10:40] <amorphous_> whyameye, thanks, man
[10:40] <Curs0r> amorphous_, no worries, but yeah adobe reader is probablly the most refined
[10:40] <oskude> GlennBrit: the standars, check md5sum of downloaded iso, and or try the "check cd" option at boot. to make sure the cd/image is ok...
[10:40] <GlennBrit> Every time I try to download the alternate install, I get 200mb, and the download ends
[10:40] <amorphous_> 'tis sold.
[10:40] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, what form is this driver you found taking?
[10:41] <ReWT_AxS> huh
[10:41] <amorphous_> thankyou gents (or possibly ladies(s) ;)
[10:41] <ReWT_AxS> that was just a listing abotu the audio of this tower
[10:41] <ReWT_AxS> nothign to do weith driversd
[10:41] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, ah
[10:41] <ragnar_123> Hey guys!
[10:41] <phiqtion> does anybody know why my router is taking so long to resolve a website? my modem connected directly to my pc resolves any website quickly but not the router. i already reset it but the problem persists. is my router malfunctioning? any help is appreciatted thanks.
[10:42] <nolimitsoya> phiqtion, this is an ubuntu support channel, not a random router one. contact the routers suppport hotline
[10:42] <oskude> phiqtion: i got same symptoms as my last router started to die... but there may be other reasons...
[10:43] <phiqtion> oskude: i see, thx bro.
[10:43] <herfer> how do I list which packages are insalled on a system ?
[10:43] <herfer> with apt-get ?
[10:44] <ReWT_AxS> Curs0r,
[10:44] <ReWT_AxS> i found this http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/217400/realtek-alc-alc880-alc260-alc861-hd-audio-codecs-driver-r1.0-linux-free-download.html
[10:44] <nolimitsoya> herfer, dpkg -l, perhaps?
[10:44] <ReWT_AxS> think it will work?
[10:44] <ReWT_AxS> and can you help me install it
[10:44] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, is your cpu amd or intel?
[10:44] <amorphous_> hey - while I'm here.... anyone have any idea why I'm struggling to get thunderbird to recognise a renamed opera exported mbs file (to inbox in ~/.moz_thund/etc/ dir) (or anything else I rename it to it would appear)?
[10:45] <ReWT_AxS> im guessing intel...it's got a p4 processor
[10:45] <spunk_> Curs0r, hm, seems that http://packages.freecontrib.org/ is broken... (needed for w32codecs?)
[10:45] <cablesm102> If I have a list of packages from a file, such as one put out by sbackup, how can I get it to automatically go through the list and install all the packages from the repos?
[10:46] <Curs0r> spunk_, umm i have have no idea what to do about that lol
[10:46] <spunk_> Curs0r, yea, I figured that. :-)
[10:47] <ReWT_AxS> it's intel
[10:47] <ricanelite> does anyone here have a HP1400 All-in-one printer or could help me get my printer working on Ubuntu Linux Edgy???
[10:47] <cablesm102> ricanelite, have you tried the regular printer adding panel?
[10:47] <hjmills> what reason could there be for my internet suddenly going slow - other ppl hav bin using my pc but with no real linux knowledge
[10:47] <ricanelite> what you mean?
[10:48] <ricanelite> Because you see Ubuntu see the printer
[10:48] <ricanelite> and it use to print and scan
[10:48] <oskude> ricanelite: i got a hp1215, working nicely
[10:48] <narvik86> spunk_: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html codecs are also here, you can download the manually and copy into right place
[10:48] <cablesm102> ricanelite, most HP printers work right away. Have you gone to Administration>Printing>Add Printer?
[10:48] <spunk_> narvik86, nice! thanks!
[10:48] <cablesm102> ricanelite, actually it's New Printer
[10:50] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, you should be ok to try that, just make sure you read the README file very slowly twice
[10:50] <EZMAN> Hey guys how do u stop the listing of channels when u join a irc network with xchat ?
[10:51] <ReWT_AxS> Curs0r, i cant find one where the d/l works?
[10:51] <EZMAN> anyone ?
[10:51] <EZMAN> cant be that hard right, must be something i overlooked
[10:51] <oskude> EZMAN: hmm, i never had that. so it should be "off" by default...
[10:51] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, http://download.opendrivers.com/drv/soundcard/realtek/linux_r101.zip
[10:52] <ReWT_AxS> did you try it
[10:52] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, yes
[10:52] <miladmovie> hello
[10:52] <kitche> EZMAN you mean the server list on that screen there is a skip network list on startup
[10:52] <Curs0r> hi
[10:52] <cablesm102> !ask
[10:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:52] <ReWT_AxS> Curs0r, okay that worked....mind helping me out with this? I'm kinda new to this stuff
[10:53] <crowley1027> hola
[10:53] <crowley1027> how do i remove flash via terminal
[10:53] <Curs0r> well just unzip the file then find the readme in the extracted folder, it has all the info. i checked
[10:53] <miladmovie> anybody can help me to install AC 97 modem in linux
[10:53] <EZMAN> actually not network list...im talking about the channel list, when joining a larger network then this one its pretty mush spam me to hell...for example quakenet
[10:53] <crowley1027> !uninstall
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <Curs0r> miladmovie, if you get that working let me know
[10:54] <crowley1027> can someone tell me how to uninstall flash from linux
[10:54] <cablesm102> crowley1027, sudo aptitude remove flashplugin-nonfree
[10:54] <kitche> miladmovie: that is bult into linux I know the kernel has a driver for it
[10:54] <crowley1027> k
[10:54] <oskude> EZMAN: well, i dont see anywhere where xchat ask for that list, is it a "feature" of that network ?
[10:54] <PriceChild> How do i add a key on the cli
[10:54] <EZMAN> nope...its just turned on by default..might be that im using gnome xchat atm...might wanne go with the usual xchat-2
[10:54] <cablesm102> crowley1027, that will remove the package. I'm not sure it'll remove the libraries. If flash isn't removed, ask again
[10:55] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, i wouldn't get your hopes up about this driver
[10:55] <kitche> EZMAN: are you using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[10:55] <miladmovie> kitche : I have ubuntu 6.06 and it can not detect by my linux I hade acer laptop
[10:55] <hjmills> alright, own up, who broke the internet?
[10:55] <crowley1027> sorry.......
[10:55] <Curs0r> hjmills, it was me, i was playing catch in the house again
[10:55] <EZMAN> yea...xchat-gnome...crappy shit...reinstalling the usual xchat
[10:56] <EZMAN> ty for ure help
[10:56] <crowley1027> Curs0r its okay, i'll take the blame...
[10:56] <EZMAN> l8r
[10:56] <ReWT_AxS> so ur suggestion is to just change the sound card?
[10:56] <cablesm102> crowley1027, did it work?
[10:56] <hjmills> Curs0r: tut tut - really - hasnt your mother taught you anything
[10:56] <PriceChild> !language | EZMAN
[10:56] <ubotu> EZMAN: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:56] <crowley1027> no
[10:56] <kitche> EZMAN: I m not sure about xchat-gnome since I don't use, sicne it's not really xchat
[10:56] <dou213> hey guys, if i want to be anonymous on the web, what should i use? router?
[10:56] <EZMAN> hehe
[10:56] <Curs0r> hjmills, only how to cheat at 3 card monty
[10:56] <hjmills> crowley1027: were you playing catch with him then?
[10:56] <cablesm102> dou213, tor.
[10:56] <klick> hey all, im trying to figure out what im missing, certain sites like myspace work on firefox 2.0 on windows, but when i use them with ubuntus firefox 2.0 the song box doesnt show what song is playing, but the music is still playing and i can see all the controls.. is there a bug or something? it used to work a few months ago
[10:56] <crowley1027> .....was I?
[10:57] <EZMAN> yea know...my source list wasent updated so only version i found of xchat...but solved now np...ty all
[10:57] <cablesm102> !tor | dou213
[10:57] <crowley1027> HAHA klick thats my same problem.
[10:57] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[10:57] <PriceChild> How do i add a gpg key using the cli?
[10:57] <ReWT_AxS> Curs0r, so you suggest switching soundcards?
[10:57] <Curs0r> dou213, wear a nixon mask at your keyboard
[10:57] <crowley1027> i think it has something to do with flash.
[10:57] <dou213> yeah heard about tor and jap
[10:57] <klick> crowley1027, yeah its weird.. its like soo barely inconvient i dont want to spend  alot of time to fix it, but was hoping someone know what the issue was
[10:57] <dou213> thx
[10:57] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, that would be the best thing,alc chips are garbage
[10:57] <ReWT_AxS> k
[10:57] <klick> crowley1027, i think it might have to do with flash v9
[10:58] <crowley1027> click is viewing a flash media player but not all of the functions are showing up.  The main background picture is gone but the volume bar, seeker knob, general buttons, and tha twill work
[10:58] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, you can try that driver, i don't think it will hurt anything if it fails
[10:58] <Flannel> !gpg | PriceChild
[10:58] <ubotu> PriceChild: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[10:58] <ReWT_AxS> it wont even configure
[10:58] <hjmills> but seriously - what could be wrong with my internet - pages take an age to load but irc works fine - dns seems ok but it shows the same prob with web browsing on 2 pcs and on both firefox and elinks
[10:58] <klick> crowley1027, yeah exactly..
[10:58] <Curs0r> yeah not surprising
[10:58] <PriceChild> that would have been clever thanks Flannel
[10:58] <kitche> !ipv6|hjmills
[10:58] <ubotu> hjmills: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:59] <cablesm102> crowley1027, you have to delete the library
[10:59] <klick> ubotu help me!
[10:59] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, have you tried setting up the alsa driver with snd-hda-intel or whatever that driver was?
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help me! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <kitche> hjmills: if you didn't disable ipv6 that is most likely your problem
[10:59] <klick> ubotu flash
[10:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:59] <klick> ubotu myspace
[10:59] <ReWT_AxS> ALC861
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[10:59] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno how
[10:59] <hjmills> kitche: if a webpage is loaded it seems to work fine - that came up fast!
[10:59] <cablesm102> crowley1027, try this: rm ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[11:00] <PriceChild> Flannel: that didn't answer my question
[11:00] <kitche> hjmills: just try the disable ipv6 and see if that works it usually does for most people at least
[11:00] <klick> cablesm102, wont that just get rid of flash all together?
[11:00] <PriceChild> Flannel: sudo apt-key add <<name of key>>.gpg - would that do it?
[11:00] <ronin3> hjmills, for me, putting a line that says only "search" before my "nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" lines in /etc/resolv.conf makes a HUGE difference for some reason that I don't understand.
[11:00] <cablesm102> I thought that's what crowley1027 wanted?
[11:00] <oskude> ReWT_AxS: didnt read this, but may be usefull http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1740034
[11:01] <Flannel> PriceChild: err... what?  Oh, you want to add a GPG key for repository stuff?
[11:01] <cablesm102> crowley1027, are you trying to install Flash 9 beta?
[11:01] <PriceChild> Flannel: indeedy :)
[11:01] <Flannel> PriceChild: see, now that's a different question ;)
[11:01] <klick> i think thats what were trying to do cablesm102
[11:01] <klick> do you have a good link on it?
[11:01] <cablesm102> klick, it's easy
[11:01] <PriceChild> Flannel: ah i suppose sorry :)
[11:01] <cablesm102> you download the library and you put it in the plugins folder
[11:01] <cablesm102> hold on, i'll get some more info
[11:02] <Flannel> PriceChild: there's a little mini Howto thing at the top of this page : http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:02] <kitche> klick there is also a package for flash9
[11:02] <kitche> !flash9|klick
[11:02] <ubotu> klick: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[11:02] <cablesm102> there is?
[11:02] <Flannel> cablesm102: yeah.  What do you think this is gentoo?
[11:02] <cablesm102> Flannel, it worked for me.
[11:02] <hjmills> kitche: i have tried it on a win xp machine and that shows the same symptoms though it gets dhcp info from an ubuntu machine so wld that throw it?
[11:03] <Chris_Lavoie> I need some help.... I can't resize my NTFS Partiton
[11:03] <Flannel> cablesm102: of course it works.  But, your flash isn't in package management, which means when you a) upgrade, b) need to fix bugs c)...um, whatever.  You'll need to handle it by hand.
[11:03] <klick> kitche, do you know what the package name is called?
[11:03] <Curs0r> so i'm guessing that driver has been changed to snd-hda-codec from what i'm reading
[11:03] <kitche> hjmills: or the search in /etc/resolv.conf might do it also since I know if you have a search in /etc/resolv.conf it will search in that "domain" first before it looks out
[11:03] <Chris_Lavoie> yea\
[11:03] <cablesm102> Flannel, good point.
[11:03] <Chris_Lavoie> dupler....
[11:03] <klick> kitche, flash-plugin-non-free?
[11:04] <HoORnet> hi, i want open many ports for outbount traffic, but just for one service, is it possible with Firestarter ?
[11:04] <ronin3> hjmills, for me, putting a line that says only "search" before my "nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" lines in /etc/resolv.conf makes a HUGE difference for some reason that I don't understand.
[11:04] <cablesm102> Flannel, would downloading it from packages.ubuntu.com work or should I enable backports?
[11:04] <muszek> hi... I'm filing a bug at launchpad and want to provide some info about my hard drive (/dev/sda) and motherboard... could someone please tell me which command(s) would output needed information?
[11:04] <Chris_Lavoie> Hello??
[11:04] <Rappermas> hey guys, i'm having trouble installing the binary nvidia drivers--i've done this before, but this is a fresh installation of ubuntu and the nvidia installer is giving me: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename.  Help?
[11:04] <hjmills> ronin3: thanks
[11:04] <Flannel> cablesm102: either way works.  The latter will update it when it gets updated in backports (bugfixes), but the former is a big increase from installing from source
[11:05] <ronin3> hjmills: did that fix the problem?
[11:05] <A-L-A-R-M> which is a good tv application for a tv-card ? expect xawtv
[11:05] <Rappermas> i'm not sure, but maybe it has something do with the kernel source or the xorg headers
[11:05] <vorbote> muszek: "dmesg | less"
[11:05] <cablesm102> Flannel, I didn't install from source. I downloaded the installer from Adobe, unzipped, pulled libflashplayer.so out of it and stuck it in plugins. Still bad form, though.
[11:05] <hjmills> ronin3: just tryin.....no unfortunatly not
[11:05] <kitche> klick: yes but you need edgy-backports enabled
[11:05] <muszek> vorbote, thanks
[11:05] <PriceChild> Flannel: yeah but I have a key already which i want to add
[11:05] <Flannel> cablesm102: that's essentially installing from source, only without the compiling (and without the source, I suppose)
[11:05] <Rappermas> unless all of you guys have ATi cards :)
[11:05] <PriceChild> do i just replace the "-" with the name of hte file?
[11:06] <kitche> Rappermas: why not install the ubuntu binary package?
[11:06] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, bingo:http://osdir.com/ml/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg18155.html
[11:06] <Rappermas> AIGLX kitche
[11:06] <klick> kitche, ohh cool that seemed to fix it
[11:06] <cablesm102> Rappermas, have you checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28Nvidia%29
[11:06] <klick> thanks bro
[11:06] <kitche> !nvidia9|Rappermas
[11:06] <ubotu> Rappermas: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[11:06] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, looks like an easy fix too
[11:06] <Flannel> PriceChild: yeah, that - recieves the piped output of the export command
[11:06] <kitche> Rappermas: and with nvidia9 drivers you don't even use AIGLX
[11:06] <Rappermas> ok, thanks guys, i'll check this out
[11:07] <Rappermas> kitche: not sure i understand what you just said
[11:07] <cablesm102> Rappermas, are you trying to install the Nvidia beta or the stable?
[11:07] <Rappermas> beta
[11:07] <PriceChild> Flannel: thanks, that's all i need :)
[11:07] <adam1001> hi all, I'm having problems with my upgrade to Edgy. After upgrading x was completely screwed and wouldn't start (I fixed that by reconfiguring and loading, using the vesa driver), but now there is no wireless networking (my desktop is in a different room from the cable modem)...the networking works fine, however, if I load the live cd...any suggestions?
[11:07] <cablesm102> Rappermas, the Nvidia beta driver provides the AIGLX features, if I'm not mistaken.
[11:07] <Rappermas> yes, it does, cablesm102
[11:07] <kitche> Rappermas cablesm102: the stable nvidia driver does
[11:08] <Curs0r> cablesm102, i'm running the 88xx driver and it's fine with aiglx
[11:08] <Rappermas> the stable provides AIGLX functionality too?
[11:08] <cablesm102> No.
[11:08] <Rappermas> when did this happen?
[11:08] <ReWT_AxS> that's a mailto link?
[11:08] <Rappermas> oh lol
[11:08] <ReWT_AxS> Curs0r, ^
[11:08] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, http://osdir.com/ml/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg18155.html
[11:08] <kitche> Rappermas cablesm102: yes the 9xxx series does the AIGLX support
[11:08] <Rappermas> i've set up about 3 machines so far with beta nvidia drivers, but i keep forgetting what to do each time
[11:08] <cablesm102> kitche, yes, but that's the beta.
[11:09] <cablesm102> kitche, someone said that the stable did
[11:09] <cablesm102> i'm correcting them
[11:09] <Chris_Lavoie> Ok, I need to resize my NTFS Partition and Gparted is giving me the "Can't perform Operation" error when I try to shrink it down, Any Ideas on how to shrink it, without uninstalling WinXP??
[11:09] <Rappermas> the stable doesn't
[11:09] <kitche> cablesm102, umm 9xxx is the latest stable driver from nvidia
[11:09] <Curs0r> cablesm102, i'm running the stable right now with aiglx
[11:09] <wasp_ems> hi i am having problems in sending files through my network on another computer...i am writing them straight to another pc through my network but it is taking ages...any help
[11:09] <JasonHeller> If I install ubuntu on my computer, will my family still be able to use windows easlily?
[11:09] <vorbote> adam1001: if you installed using the alternate cd, make sure to install the kernel restricted modules package (use synaptic, read from the cd).
[11:09] <Rappermas> ok, brb, i'm gonna read this
[11:09] <wasp_ems> and i get timeout reached
[11:10] <Flannel> JasonHeller: yeah.  When they boot, it'll prompt them (you can set it to boot windows by default, so they don't have to know about it)
[11:10] <vorbote> Chris_Lavoie, run defrag in windows at least twice :-)
[11:10] <adam1001> i upgraded using the package manager (as per official instructions)
[11:10] <kitche> cablesm102, Rappermas: the latest stable nvidia driver is Latest Version: 1.0-9631unless you mean ubuntu stable
[11:10] <JasonHeller> cool thanks
[11:10] <Chris_Lavoie> Sweet
[11:10] <Chris_Lavoie> I'll try that
[11:10] <Rappermas> i haven't checked--i always use beta drivers
[11:10] <Rappermas> they're perfectly fine and never crash
[11:10] <cablesm102> kitche, you're right, I meant Ubuntu stable. BTW, do you know when 9xxx is coming out on the Ubuntu repos?
[11:10] <hanso> hey! anyone knows about a good web site developer like dreamweaver or frontpage???
[11:10] <kitche> cablesm102, next release probably
[11:11] <cablesm102> kitche, Feisty?
[11:11] <hjmills> identify barnaby
[11:11] <vorbote> adam1001: Then make sure that it is loading the firmware for your wireless (broadcom thingies are particularly nasty). Can't help you there, but there are plenty of how-tos at ubuntuforums.
[11:11] <wasp_ems> plus the bug reporting tool comes out
[11:11] <Flannel> hanso: a text editor ;)  nvu is a WYSIWYMG editor, theres another.. can't remmber the name
[11:11] <hjmills> ronin3 and kitche: thanks guys - my internet is great now!
[11:11] <GreenD> soo
[11:11] <cablesm102> Openoffice does it, but I'm sure Nvu is much better
[11:11] <Rappermas> ok, i'm going to kill gdm and try installing
[11:11] <Rappermas> later guys, thanks for help
[11:11] <anthony_l> fedora rules
[11:11] <Curs0r> my current running nvidia driver is 8776 and beryl is great you people are smokin something
[11:11] <[Feanor] > mmm someone can use a nokia 6600 like a wireless mouse?
[11:11] <ronin3> hjmills: was the ipv6 the issue?
[11:11] <anthony_l> fedora rules
[11:11] <anthony_l> cus i say so
[11:12] <hjmills> ronin3: yes but on the server
[11:12] <GreenD> How do I enter UNIX commands? My 1337 friend told me to rm -rf.
[11:12] <hjmills> anthony_l: i wasnt so keen on it
[11:12] <ronin3> ah
[11:12] <cablesm102> GreenD, go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[11:12] <ronin3> hjmills: glad it's working now!
[11:12] <doug_h> then you can run rm -rf
[11:12] <Flannel> GreenD: and, don't enter that command.
[11:12] <ReWT_AxS> err Curs0r it says to add a line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:12] <GreenD> THANKS!
[11:12] <ReWT_AxS> but i dont have that file?
[11:12] <cablesm102> GreenD, that's not a good idea
[11:12] <doug_h> too late note
[11:13] <cablesm102> shit
[11:13] <adam1001> ok...i'm wondering if it would be better then to do a fresh install from the cd (my /home is on another drive, so it should be safe)
[11:13] <cablesm102> i mean, shoot
[11:13] <doug_h> now* greend already ran it probably
[11:13] <cablesm102> sorry
[11:13] <anthony_l> greend eats babies
[11:13] <Larus> sweet
[11:13] <un_operateur1> l
[11:13] <cablesm102> doug_h, yeah I didn't look at what he was going to run.
[11:13] <doug_h> rm -rf
[11:13] <doug_h> lol
[11:13] <doug_h> poor guy
[11:13] <cablesm102> i feel stupid
[11:13] <cablesm102> and soon so will he
[11:13] <doug_h> nah he's probably running it in vmware
[11:13] <cablesm102> his leet friend = an assh*le
[11:14] <cablesm102> if he knew how to use vmware, he'd know where to find the terminal
[11:14] <Rappermas> ok just so you guys know, i just tried the stable drivers and it worked
[11:14] <doug_h> nah you can use vmware with no knowledge of unix
[11:14] <WalrusKing> Hey
[11:14] <Rappermas> apparently, the latest betas are messed up
[11:14] <WalrusKing> Who here made my friend rm -rf???
[11:14] <kitche> Rappermas what card do you have?
[11:14] <Rappermas> nVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
[11:14] <cablesm102> dough_h, but Applications>Accessories>Terminal is pretty easy to find
[11:15] <Rappermas> it's a nice card, if i do say so myself
[11:15] <doug_h> eh
[11:15] <Larus> does anyone know how to get sound working on a 6.10 install? I think it might be my sound card, it's a Sigmatel (generic)
[11:15] <doug_h> never know
[11:15] <Rappermas> it's for the blender stuff i'm doing for game dev
[11:15] <cablesm102> Larus, sigmatel works great for me
[11:15] <Larus> sorry.. it works under ubuntu but for some reason it's not working with Wine
[11:15] <doug_h> i've got ubuntu dapper drake running on a sigmatel C sharp integrated sound on my Dell Inspiron 700m
[11:15] <Larus> the apps I installed have no sound
[11:15] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, you're running edgy?
[11:16] <Rappermas> yeah, but thanks though, i would've never thought to try the stables
[11:16] <Groovebot> hey, guys
[11:16] <cablesm102> Larus, that's a wine problem
[11:16] <cablesm102> Should Larus try aoss?
[11:16] <kitche> Larus, does the apps output any errors?
[11:16] <Rappermas> anyway, just so everyone knows, beta nvidia drivers aren't installable as of right now
[11:16] <Groovebot> how do I get this nvidia card to use hw acceleration on ubuntu?
[11:16] <ReWT_AxS> Curs0r, yes
[11:16] <cablesm102> Larus, try this: sudo aptitude install alsa-oss
[11:16] <Larus> lol, figured right when I joined here
[11:16] <Larus> no errors
[11:16] <Larus> just no sound
[11:16] <Rappermas> thanks,  and later guys
[11:16] <Curs0r> that's odd i have a huge file for /etc/modprobe.d/asla-base
[11:16] <ZeXr0> Is a Ubuntu LAMP server secure enought to put a commercial WebSite on it ? Or I should use a clean install and then install eash software with a "secure-known" release ?
[11:16] <cablesm102> Larus, then run your wine program like this: aoss wine whatever
[11:16] <Larus> ok
[11:17] <Larus> I'll give it a go
[11:17] <cablesm102> Larus, you can then change the shortcuts to use that
[11:17] <kitche> Ze
[11:17] <Curs0r> !pastebin
[11:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:17] <ReWT_AxS> do i reboot once i put that on
[11:17] <akai---> whatever
[11:17] <Eclypse> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320629
[11:18] <kitche> ZeXr0: the packages are patched for known security problems
[11:18] <bimberi> ZeXr0: whatever you're comfortable with.  The LAMP stack is supported by Canonical and they wouldn't release anything known to be insecure.
[11:18] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, this is what mine loos like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37636/
[11:18] <kitche> ZeXr0: if you install everything seperate you will still have LAMP but LAMP just makes it easier to setup
[11:18] <Groovebot> anyone?
[11:18] <ZeXr0> okay that's nice.
[11:19] <kitche> Groovebot, install the nvidia drivers
[11:19] <boglizk> nede help changing my screen res, i can only pick 800x600...
[11:19] <Groovebot> kitche, I tried apt-get install nvidia and it doesn't work
[11:19] <ReWT_AxS> yeea i found it
[11:19] <ReWT_AxS> do i reboot once changing that?
[11:19] <ReWT_AxS> or just kill x?
[11:19] <ZeXr0> Thank you for your fast answer :)
[11:19] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, killing x won't do the trick here
[11:20] <ReWT_AxS> so reboot
[11:20] <kitche> Groovebot, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then after they are installed do nvidia-glx-config enable then restart X
[11:20] <Larus> boglizk system>preferences>screen resolution
[11:20] <Groovebot> thanks, kitche  :)))
[11:20] <boglizk> Larus: I just told you, i can only pick 800x600
[11:20] <Valmarko> whats the best way to implement plugins for flash , tv streaming and other related in Firefox?
[11:20] <Larus> doh
[11:20] <boglizk> :)
[11:20] <bruenig> Valmarko, install them
[11:20] <kitche> Groovebot, you need sudo for the nvidia-glx-config part also
[11:20] <ReWT_AxS> must io reboot Curs0r ?
[11:21] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, modprobe snd-hda-intel
[11:21] <ReWT_AxS> k
[11:21] <jrib> !restricted | Valmarko
[11:21] <ubotu> Valmarko: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:21] <bruenig> Valmarko, for video, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[11:21] <ReWT_AxS> uhhhh problem
[11:21] <ReWT_AxS> big problem
[11:21] <Valmarko> For firefox ? tanks
[11:21] <ReWT_AxS> lol
[11:21] <boglizk> Which package to i reconfigure to set screen res? Or config file?
[11:21] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, what happened?
[11:21] <jrib> !fixres | boglizk
[11:21] <ubotu> boglizk: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:22] <ReWT_AxS> could not launch menu item          Failed to execute child process "gnome-terminal" (No such file or directory)
[11:22] <jrib> boglizk: check system > preferences > screen resolution first
[11:22] <ReWT_AxS> i cannot open anything
[11:22] <ReWT_AxS> i havent modprobed yet
[11:22] <boglizk> jrib: Been there, done that
[11:22] <Eldox> hey
[11:22] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, lol, go ahead and reboot
[11:22] <jrib> boglizk: k, then that wiki page should help
[11:22] <ReWT_AxS> k
[11:22] <ReWT_AxS> brb
[11:22] <leogibson> hello
[11:23] <rance> Anybody remember the old "banner" program from unix that allowed you to print long horizontal banners to continuous feed printers?, is that available for ubuntu, I can't find it
[11:23] <Eldox> is there any noob in linux channels here? :P
[11:23] <jrib> rance: yes, install bsdmainutils
[11:23] <leogibson> i have an ATI Mobility radeon problem i just cant seem to solve
[11:23] <leogibson> with the fans
[11:23] <rance> great, thanks
[11:23] <Bonbon_aus_Wurst> Eldox: Why are you searchin for noobs?
[11:23] <jrib> rance: (you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search for stuff instide packages)
[11:23] <Eclypse> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320629
[11:23] <ReWT_AxS> i cant reboot?
[11:24] <Curs0r> ReWT_AxS, ctrl+alt+F2
[11:24] <Bonbon_aus_Wurst> That was not polite.
[11:25] <vanberge> would anybody tell me....  if your computer lost power (hence shutdown )  would you file system check it?  im new to linux...  thanks!  My pc got unplugged by accident while running.   :-(
[11:25] <nevron> how can i reset my repositories?
[11:25] <Curs0r> oh crap, i should have told him to run /sudo/shutdown
[11:25] <Curs0r> or sudo shutdown rather
[11:25] <bruenig> or sudo shutdown -h now rather
[11:25] <un_operateur1> rance, dpkg -S `which banner` : bsdmainutils: /usr/games/banner
[11:25] <vanberge> Curs0r, i am familiar with that command..  :-)   didnt have a chance to do that
[11:25] <vanberge> is that 'ok' ?
[11:26] <stapel> help please, tomboy has stopped working, it has disappeared from the menu and even if I try to run it from cli it does not start
[11:26] <kitche> vanberge: yes it will check it
[11:26] <Masaka> vanberge: better check double if there are important files ;)
[11:26] <Curs0r> i sometimes forget that some people don't know about shtdown from the command line
[11:26] <vanberge> i just didnt know if i needed to run a fsck manually
[11:26] <vanberge> kitche, tyvm.   Masaka not too important..  :-)
[11:26] <rance> Thanks guys, youve been a big help
[11:27] <un_operateur1> vanberge, if init didnt successfully halt -- then fsck is invoked automatically on next boot
[11:27] <vanberge> ahh... ok.
[11:27] <vanberge> my processor overheated... i need a new heatsink
[11:27] <stapel> help please, tomboy has stopped working, it has disappeared from the menu and even if I try to run it from cli it does not start
[11:27] <Farm_Fresh> DBO: ?
[11:27] <A-L-A-R-M> which is a good application to watch the connection bandwidth ?
[11:27] <maxxism> stapel what does it say when you try to run it from cli?
[11:27] <vorbote> vanberge: in fact, the system will fun a light form of fsck at boot up. If there are problems that can't be fixed automatically, the system will ask your help
[11:27] <leogibson> anyone know how to silence the fans on an ATI laptop (x700) with the opean source driver?
[11:27] <Curs0r> vanberge, the proper thermal compounds are just as important as the heatsink ;)
[11:28] <wasabi__> is there a way to get memtest86 to output the result to a directory?
[11:28] <JasonHeller> I installed ubuntu, but when I try to boot windows I get a disc read error.  What do I do?
[11:28] <leogibson> theyre running full blast
[11:28] <vanberge> Curs0r, i know... i actually got some good thermal gel and re applied my heatsink
[11:28] <bruenig> A-L-A-R-M, you can use widgets, or you can use a panel applet
[11:28] <vanberge> it just cant handle my processor.  :-(
[11:28] <vanberge> i have a new one i am going to put in tonight
[11:28] <boOkwo7m> i have a silly irc-etiquette question :)
[11:28] <Farm_Fresh> Ok, well I've just finished installing 6.1 beta (on CD I have)  now what?
[11:28] <Curs0r> !ask boOkwo7m
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask boOkwo7m - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <vanberge> vorbote, thanks for the info... definitely good to know
[11:29] <bruenig> Farm_Fresh, why would you install 6.1 beta, the final is out
[11:29] <stapel> maxxism: Binding key '<Alt>F11' for '/apps/tomboy/global_keybindings/open_start_here'
[11:29] <leogibson> !ask laptop fans
[11:29] <stapel> (Tomboy:24481): libtomboy-WARNING **: Binding '<Alt>F11' failed!
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask laptop fans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <boOkwo7m> is it in the norm to have a nick with with non-alpha chars in it?  (e.g. digits, as in my nick)
[11:29] <A-L-A-R-M> okie
[11:29] <un_operateur1> !ask | boOkwo7m
[11:29] <ubotu> boOkwo7m: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:29] <stapel> it just hangs there...and then I have to ctl-C to get out
[11:29] <bruenig> boOkwo7m, they are a bit annoying to retype, but with tab completion it is rarely an issue. Some do and some don't.
[11:29] <boOkwo7m> ubotu: bleh
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bleh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <un_operateur1> boOkwo7m, there's nothing wrong with that -- although it may frsutrate users with older IRC clients that dont have tab complete
[11:30] <LinTux> How do I install NDWrapper in terminal
[11:30] <JasonHeller> I installed ubuntu but when I try to boot windows I get a disc read error.  What do I do?
[11:30] <maxxism> stapel no idea.  sorry
[11:30] <un_operateur1> it also makes your name a slight bit unreadable
[11:30] <vanberge> LinTux, you mean ndiswrapper?
[11:30] <un_operateur1> so, its best avoided
[11:30] <Farm_Fresh> bruenig:  It's the only CD I have.. And I can't burn another.. No burner.
[11:30] <bruenig> Farm_Fresh, ah
[11:30] <LinTux> how do I install NDisWrapper complete in terminal
[11:30] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, make sure your windows partition is set correctly in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:30] <vanberge> LinTux, apt-get install ndiswrapper
[11:30] <LinTux> cheers
[11:31] <boOkwo7m> bruenig, un_operateur1:  k thanks.  I'll change 'em :)
[11:31] <vanberge> LinTux, you have to enable universe/multiverse first though
[11:31] <JasonHeller> Curs0r how do I do that?
[11:31] <Farm_Fresh> bruenig:  So, whats next?
[11:31] <bruenig> Farm_Fresh, what is the question
[11:31] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:31] <stapel> if I uninstall Tomboy and then re-install it again, will I lose my notes?
[11:32] <LinTux> vanberge, I tried that and got this error - E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[11:32] <Farm_Fresh> bruenig:  I just installed 6.1 beta.  what do I need to do to bring it current?
[11:32] <bh__> Hello
[11:32] <ady> stapel, i think so
[11:32] <hjmills> stapel: theoretically i would say no unless you use purge but dnt quote me
[11:32] <bh__> I'm having a lot of problems with the installer for 6.10
[11:32] <un_operateur1> stapel, you shouldnt unless you purge tomboy
[11:32] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, since this is your first time, i cannot strees enough: do NOT screw with your working partition, stick to fiddling with the windows entry for now
[11:32] <bruenig> Farm_Fresh, there should have been and update manager pop up. To make sure, do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[11:32] <bruenig> s/and/an
[11:33] <bh__> this is an older Pentiun M machine and the kernel doesn't seem to want to either decompress or some other problem early in the load phase
[11:33] <JasonHeller> Curs0r, I have menu.lst opened, but I don't know what to do next.
[11:33] <hjmills> !beagle
[11:33] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.9-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 804 kB, installed size 3160 kB
[11:33] <Desert88> hey
[11:33] <ubek_> hi
[11:33] <ady> is there  a way to install directx on Ubuntu?
[11:33] <hjmills> is beagle any good?
[11:33] <hjmills> ady nio
[11:33] <Desert88> is there a way to get flash 9 on ubuntu?
[11:33] <Curs0r> JasonHeller,  well is there an entry that says windows in that file?
[11:33] <hjmills> ady: no
[11:33] <bh__> I've also tried a number of acpi/apic options with no luck. It seems to be earlier than bus detection
[11:33] <Desert88> or are we doomed to suffer
[11:33] <JasonHeller> yes
[11:33] <Curs0r> ok
[11:33] <hjmills> Desert88: yup - go to the adobe website
[11:33] <Desert88> i did
[11:33] <Masaka> hjmills: beagle uses mono :(
[11:33] <Desert88> and it just installs flash 7
[11:33] <esaym> whats up yall
[11:34] <kitche> Desert88, it's also in edgy-backports
[11:34] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, the like where it says root(hdx,x) is what we need to look at
[11:34] <esaym> can anyone give me the contents of /etc/init.d/displayconfig-hwprobe.py ??
[11:34] <Desert88> im on dapper
[11:34] <hjmills> Desert88: i found flash 9 on there i think earlier today
[11:34] <Curs0r> line*
[11:34] <vorbote> bh__: try booting with "nosmp noapic nolapic"
[11:34] <un_operateur1> beagle is like the google desktop search -- always keeping a tab on what you store -- it's pretty helpful and quite a few applications depend on it
[11:34] <hjmills> Desert88: any particular reason not to upgrade?
[11:34] <mefisto> hi all
[11:34] <mefisto> i have problem
[11:34] <Desert88> no not really
[11:34] <Masaka> hjmills: I would recommend tracker instead
[11:34] <JasonHeller> Curs0r, it says for windows hd0, 0
[11:34] <dampyle> how do you upgrade warty I tried apt-get upgrade was a no go
[11:34] <hjmills> un_operateur1: any better than locate?
[11:34] <Desert88> whats the easiest way to upgrade
[11:34] <bh__> vorbote, using the "live" option ?
[11:34] <Desert88> im new to ubuntu
[11:34] <Desert88> had it about 4 days
[11:34] <ubek_> people i've serious problem with sound card on laptop pleace little help!!
[11:34] <LinTux> Can anyone tell me the correct command to indtsll ndwrapper in terminal
[11:34] <mefisto> how can i launch pg_ctrl on ubuntu
[11:34] <hjmills> Masaka: whats tracker and why is it betteR?
[11:34] <mefisto> ?
[11:34] <un_operateur1> hjmills, what do you want to locate??
[11:34] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, which drive and partition is windows on?
[11:34] <Desert88> so i just recently upgraded to dapper
[11:34] <stapel> in synaptic, what is the difference between "removal" and "complete removal"
[11:35] <un_operateur1> hjmills, files or content within files
[11:35] <vorbote> bh__: yes, you can pass parameters to the kernel (use F6)
[11:35] <un_operateur1> ?
[11:35] <Desert88> but adobe will install flash 9 on edgy?
[11:35] <hjmills> un_operateur1: normally i want to look for files where i know part of the path or the programs its linked to
[11:35] <JasonHeller> I don't know
[11:35] <Farm_Fresh> bruenig:  Ok.. it gave me a pretty big list of things to be upgraded.. And a pretty good list, of things to be kept back.. Why?
[11:35] <un_operateur1> stapel, one removes the package, another removes the package and all its configuration files
[11:35] <JasonHeller> I only have one drive
[11:35] <chable> anyone knows why azureus wont open ?
[11:35] <bh__> vorbote, ok, I'm going to try it
[11:35] <chable> wont start
[11:35] <un_operateur1> hjmills, you could use locate for that
[11:35] <mefisto> how can i launch pg_ctrl on ubuntu ?
[11:35] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, (hd0,0) means that it wants to look for windows on the first partition of the first drive
[11:36] <stapel> un_operateur1: thanx
[11:36] <un_operateur1> hjmills, in the command line -- locate filename
[11:36] <JasonHeller> so why do I get a disc read error?
[11:36] <Masaka> hjmills: (meta) tracker is a search daemon, it's faster, w/o mono and an xdg spec --> http://www.gnome.org/~jamiemcc/tracker/
[11:36] <bruenig> Farm_Fresh, having not been in your situation, I am not certain. Since you just installed, I would just go with all the upgrades and then figure it out from there. You can always reinstall right?
[11:36] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, you only have one drive?
[11:36] <mefisto> how can i launch pg_ctrl on ubuntu ?
[11:36] <JasonHeller> yeah
[11:36] <bh__> vorbote, same problem
[11:36] <un_operateur1> hjmills, if you know part of the filename -- locate | grep -i string
[11:36] <Desert88> hey if i have beryl installed will it still work fine if i upgrade to edgy?
[11:36] <II`et|Weirdo> maybe silly question but what kind of CD image do i have to burn, running intel pentium D 3.2ghz the 32 bit or the 64 bit when i boot i see EM64T (extended memory 64 bit)
[11:36] <Honda> is there a way to retrieve what username and password I used for my ubuntu login?
[11:36] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, did you repartition to install linux?
[11:36] <ReiserFreak> how can i make my tv a different display? (it is in clone modus right now and i am using edgy and fglrx)
[11:36] <JasonHeller> It did it for me
[11:37] <bruenig> II`et|Weirdo, 32 bit
[11:37] <bh__> vorbote, still hangs
[11:37] <Farm_Fresh> bruenig:  Yeah, thats what I just did.
[11:37] <mefisto> how can i launch pg_ctrl on ubuntu ?
[11:37] <II`et|Weirdo> k tnx bruenig
[11:37] <hjmills> ReiserFreak: yes but please tell me how to clone it first! im trying to do that!!!
[11:37] <Desert88> hey anyone know if my beryl will still work fine if i upgrade to edgy
[11:37] <Desert88> it took me forever to install
[11:37] <bh__> vorbote, any other suggestions ?
[11:37] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, i think your windows is probably toast, is there a hard drive icon on your desktop?
[11:37] <mefisto> how can i launch pg_ctrl on ubuntu ?
[11:37] <un_operateur1> Desert88, there is no guarantee -- but hopefully it will
[11:37] <JasonHeller> no
[11:37] <vorbote> bh__: Hmm... That sounds like either you may not have enough RAM to fit the kernel in memory, or the CD wasn't burnt correctly.
[11:37] <bh__> vorbote, I don't think the kernel even gets to the point where it's loading
[11:38] <un_operateur1> usually during an upgrade, older packages are replaced -- and this process can break functionality
[11:38] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, ok try this for me, open a terminal and type sudo /bin/bash
[11:38] <bh__> vorbote, I reburned the CD and I have about 768M of RAM
[11:38] <ReiserFreak> hjmills: ok no problem mate: i plug in the cable into my vga and restart x while tv it turned on and set to AV!
[11:38] <drivera90> In Xchat, what should I separate channel names with? ; or ,?
[11:38] <gpd> any reason why the generic kernel freezes on boot of my AMD64?
[11:38] <ReiserFreak> hjmills: X recognizes it automatically
[11:38] <hjmills> ReiserFreak: oh - lucky
[11:38] <vorbote> bh__: if it even starts loading then probably the kernel is corrupt on disk (try burning a new copy at 4x)
[11:38] <hjmills> ReiserFreak: it ddnt do colour for me
[11:38] <boglizk> Whats 32mb in kbytes?
[11:38] <ReiserFreak> hjmills: not at all or not in clone mode?
[11:39] <unix_infidel> 32MBx(1024KB/1MB)=(n)KB
[11:39] <JasonHeller> now it says root@jason-desktop: ~#
[11:39] <vorbote> bh__: and if you are using a cd-rw make sure to do a full blank before writing the image on it.
[11:39] <un_operateur1> 32Mib would be 32768 KiB
[11:39] <boglizk> thanks
[11:39] <un_operateur1> MiB*
[11:39] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, is your hard drive ide or sata?
[11:39] <hjmills> ReiserFreak: when i dont configure it at all
[11:39] <mc44> drivera90: ,
[11:39] <JasonHeller> i don't know
[11:39] <un_operateur1> however 32MB would be 32000 KB
[11:39] <hjmills> ReiserFreak: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out
[11:39] <Curs0r> then try this first fdisk /dev/hda
[11:39] <larry> dumb question alert.. I can't browse the AudioCD i just put in, but I can "play" it.
[11:40] <larry> Is it the CD?
[11:40] <bh__> vorbote, interesting, I'm using k3b
[11:40] <JasonHeller> it said unable to open
[11:40] <bh__> vorbote, the burn was reported as being a success
[11:40] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, ok, no problem fdisk /dev/sda
[11:40] <tony22> can anyone help w a sed command.. trying to replace " " with " \" but i get : "sed: -e expression #1, char 8: unterminated `s' command"
[11:40] <un_operateur1> tony, escape the \
[11:40] <JasonHeller> a bunch of stuff popped up
[11:41] <bh__> vorbote, k3b auto-blanked it
[11:41] <edgarin> Hello, excuseme howto i can burn a file .avi in k3b vcd
[11:41] <edgarin> ?
[11:41] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, now enter "p" w/o the quotes to display your partition table
[11:41] <JasonHeller> it says the number of cylinder is set to 30401
[11:41] <vorbote> bh__: To be really sure you should run sha1sum on both the image file and the /dev/hdx that corresponds to your finalized CD.
[11:41] <tony22> un_operateur1, this is my line now: sed -e s/\ /\ \\/g
[11:41] <JasonHeller> ok hold on
[11:41] <bh__> ok
[11:41] <bh__> vorbote, I'll try that
[11:41] <JasonHeller> k now what
[11:41] <bh__> vorbote, now as a matter of fact
[11:41] <vorbote> bh__: I much rather do the blanking my hand using cdrecod/wodim from a termina,.
[11:41] <drivera90> In XChat, under "Channels to join", I put a list of three channels separated by commas, but it only joins the first one.
[11:41] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, any of those partitions claim to be Fat32 or HPFS.NTFS?
[11:42] <bruenig> drivera90, you put spaces in between?
[11:42] <Shadow_mil> I wanna know if I can capture video out and use it as video in (like a web cam)
[11:42] <drivera90> Yeah bruenig
[11:42] <un_operateur1> tony22,  echo "this is a file" | sed -e 's/\ /\ \\/g'   :  this \is \a \file
[11:42] <JasonHeller> yeah the first one is HPFS.NTFS
[11:42] <bruenig> drivera90, /join #schat
[11:42] <bruenig> drivera90, /join #xchat
[11:42] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, that is hd0,0 then
[11:42] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, type q to quit that
[11:42] <bh__> vorbote, summing the data now
[11:43] <larry> ok this is wiered.. It opens Sound Juicer even though I changed it over to Grip in the "Removeable Drives and Media" control panel.
[11:43] <JasonHeller> it also says partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary
[11:43] <tony22> un_operateur1, so i needed the " ' " ?
[11:43] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, not a huge deal
[11:43] <chable> azureus starts and dies in 1 second
[11:43] <JasonHeller> k, i typed q
[11:43] <chable> anyone knows how to solve this issue ?
[11:44] <dampyle> new to ubuntu, is the kernelpath still /usr/src?
[11:44] <un_operateur1> tony -- yea, you need to put the s/// expression inside single quotes to make it safer
[11:44] <un_operateur1> larry, audio CDs dont really have directories and files you can browse normally eh, i hope you know that
[11:44] <Eclypse> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320629
[11:44] <Curs0r> JasonHeller,  ok, for some reason your windows boot loader isn't working properly ubuntu is doing what it knows how to do
[11:45] <JasonHeller> so can i fix it?
[11:45] <larry> un_uperatur1: hmm.. must be used to that behaviour from "other os's" then..
[11:45] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, you are able to boot into ubuntu though, right?
[11:45] <dts> is there a way to purge the usb system?
[11:45] <JasonHeller> yeah
[11:45] <dts> without restarting
[11:45] <drkm> what do I apt-get to install X Libraries?
[11:45] <Curs0r> ok, you need to boot from your windows cd and get into the recovery console
[11:45] <ubuntu> Curs0r: hey
[11:45] <ubuntu> my whole computer messed up and ubuntu wouldnt even start this is rewt
[11:46] <JasonHeller> ok then do what?
[11:46] <ubuntu> so im reinstallign right now :-p
[11:46] <ubuntu> i guess i messed something up
[11:46] <ubuntu> who knows lol
[11:46] <Curs0r> ubuntu, were you messing ith something besides your alsa drivers?
[11:46] <ubuntu> yea
[11:46] <ubuntu> i think that's what did it
[11:46] <Larus> so I'm back
[11:46] <ubuntu> but anyways what was that site?
[11:46] <ubuntu> imma retry it once i get resinstalled
[11:46] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, once in the recovery console run fixboot and fixmbr
[11:47] <gpd> dwl-g520 wireless card still doesn't show up in Edgy - but was fine in dapper?
[11:47] <Larus> my supposed Wine problem turns out to be an Ubuntu problem with my soundcard
[11:47] <JasonHeller> ok, anything else I should know before do that?
[11:47] <Larus> I tried testing sounds and my computer crashed
[11:47] <Farm_Fresh> I'm trying to upgrade from 6.1 beta... I get this.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37647/
[11:47] <Curs0r> JasonHeller, this will overwrite your grub boot loader, you'll need to boot the livecd again and setup grub from the console
[11:47] <ubuntu> Curs0r: what was that site youfound
[11:47] <II`et|Weirdo> ethtool eth0 --> speed 100mb/s duplex: full Port: twisted pair auto negotiation: on its all normal i guess
[11:47] <Curs0r> ubuntu, http://osdir.com/ml/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg18155.html
[11:47] <JasonHeller> ok, I'll be back
[11:47] <ubuntu> where i needed to add a line to that file i couldnt find
[11:48] <JasonHeller> thanks for your help Curs0r
[11:48] <Larus> does anyone know what happened because I'm clueless
[11:48] <Curs0r> haha heller killed his windows
[11:48] <ubuntu>   ty
[11:48] <ubuntu> i'll be back
[11:48] <Curs0r> kk
[11:49] <Larus> does anyone know how a sound test could crash my computer?
[11:49] <Curs0r> Larus, quite easily
[11:49] <Larus> I'm using a sigmatel audio card but that can't be it
[11:49] <Curs0r> Larus, yes it could
[11:49] <ady> Larus, yes, bad drivers usually
[11:49] <Larus> I'm going to try downloading codecs and whatnot and see if that helps
[11:50] <ubuntu> Curs0r: and what did you say was teh modprobe command?
[11:50] <Curs0r> ubuntu, modprobe snd-hda-intel
[11:51] <larry> how do I get Grip to recognize audio CD's
[11:51] <Larus> I'll try another sound test after I reinstall the drivers... hope I don't crash, lol
[11:52] <Curs0r> Larus, the $20 sb live is your friend
[11:52] <larry> it opens  now when I insert a CD but it won't actually work with the CD.
[11:52] <ReiserFreak> how can i set my TV to be a seperate display?
[11:52] <Larus> I have a Turtle Beach santa cruz in my nicest computer but I'm waitint to see if I get a better sound card so I can swap that one into this computer
[11:53] <Larus> the santa cruz
[11:53] <Curs0r> ReiserFreak, please let me know if you get an answer to that that helps
[11:53] <ReiserFreak> Curs0r: np
[11:53] <Eridescent> Hi, i want to install a ubuntu server without  GUI...but everytime i try to download it, it says is the desktop CD. Can someone point me in the right direction for the CD image i want?
[11:53] <Curs0r> ReiserFreak, i get so wrapped up in other stuff i forget to ask about that
[11:54] <Curs0r> Larus, those sigmatel chips are trouble
[11:54] <Larus> ok
[11:54] <drkm> what is the name for the 'x libraries' so I can install them from apt-get ?
[11:54] <Curs0r> drkm, xorg-libs maybe?
[11:54] <Larus> so come Xmas I'll know if I can swap the turtle beach into this computer
[11:55] <ja> I have just installed Edgy. I have an ATI card but I see many Nvidia packages are installed. Is it safe to remove all of these?
[11:55] <drkm> curs: maybe they are the right libs or are they?
[11:55] <Larus> sound is overrated anyway ;P
[11:55] <Curs0r> drkm, no clue, use the synaptics manager for precise names
[11:55] <grimace> yo chaps - I've been trying to get Win 98 on my lan to chat to the Epson stylus C440 (on my edgy box) without success :*(
[11:55] <Eridescent> Hi, i want to install a ubuntu server without  GUI...but everytime i try to download it, it says is the desktop CD. Can someone point me in the right direction for the CD image i want?
[11:56] <drkm> Cur: ok thanks
[11:56] <bioticpro> Can anyone recommend good laptop brand to buy? (or another irc to go ask on)
[11:56] <grimace> I've installed the winipp.exe on the '98 box
[11:56] <kenz`jazza> i need some help installing
[11:56] <grimace> and when I point 'add printer' at http://[my edgy box] /printers/epson it recognises a printer there
[11:57] <Eridescent> anyone
[11:57] <un_operateur1> Eridescent, IIRC you can install the base packages (server install) using an ordinary ubuntu CD
[11:57] <grimace> uh, [my edgy box port 631]  that is
[11:57] <un_operateur1> Eridescent, it's one of the install modes
[11:57] <bimberi> Eridescent: you want either the server CD or the alternate CD
[11:57] <grimace> but when the printer wizard finishes, it just says "This printer couldn't be installed la la la contact your administrator"
[11:58] <bimberi> un_operateur1: Desktop CD can only install a Desktop
[11:58] <slacktyro> i installed the kde, now how can i set it up as default?
[11:58] <grimace> I thought I could do it with just win98, cups and IPP, but do I need to add samba to the mix?
[11:58] <Eridescent> where is the server CD?
[11:58] <Eridescent> im on the server page
[11:58] <Eridescent> i go to download
[11:58] <Curs0r> grimace, kind of a windows 98 question don't you think?
[11:58] <Eridescent> and it starts downloading the desktop iso
[11:59] <Voltzz> why do my network tools not work? I ping something, 100% loss, and everything else takes an insane time to do whatever its doing but does nothing, and I can't stop it =|
[11:59] <toratora> F1
[11:59] <toratora> F1 please
[11:59] <bimberi> Eridescent: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ (for example)
[11:59] <Curs0r> grimace, but yeah to share with 9x you probably need to include samba
[11:59] <slacktyro> anyone can tell me how to set kde as default instead gnome?
[12:00] <Curs0r> slacktyro, Kubuntu
[12:00] <Eridescent> ahhh
[12:00] <Eridescent> thank your bimberi
[12:00] <Eridescent> you*
[12:00] <grimace> curs0r: thanks - I was reaching that impression - and that makes it more of an ubuntu question again ;)
[12:00] <Eridescent> :D
[12:00] <bimberi> slacktyro: choose it from the sessions menu at the login screen and say yes when it asks if you want it to be the default
[12:00] <bimberi> Eridescent: np :)
[12:00] <slacktyro> ok ty
[12:00] <skiab0x> guys I have a problem
[12:00] <Curs0r> grimace, i'm having trouble with samba personally, good luck
[12:01] <progesterone> can i get some advice for troubleshooting?