| thumper | hiya mpt | 12:22 |
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| mpt | hi thumper | 12:37 |
| thumper | mpt: I'm back at "the fix" | 12:38 |
| mpt | jamesh, do you have time to review my fix for bug 75469? | 12:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 75469 in malone "Hard to distinguish current context without colored background" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/75469 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) | 12:39 |
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| jamesh | mpt: sure. | 01:05 |
| Adri2000 | bug 64848 "nominated for edgy by" me, is that normal? | 01:12 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 64848 in k3d "[SRU: EDGY] packaging typo - k3d does not install" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64848 - Assigned to Adrien Cunin (adri2000) | 01:12 |
| Adri2000 | looking at bug 74004, it's different | 01:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 74004 in udev "Doesn't include qla2xxx firmware" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74004 | 01:14 |
| jamesh | Adri2000: there was a rollout at the end of last week, so some parts of the UI have changed | 01:14 |
| Adri2000 | I know, and I'm trying to understand how it is supposed to work | 01:15 |
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| jamesh | Adri2000: BjornT would be the best person to ask about this, but he isn't up yet (he is in Europe) | 01:17 |
| Adri2000 | ok | 01:18 |
| Adri2000 | (I'm in Europe too :p) | 01:18 |
| jamesh | Adri2000: had you used the "nominate for release" feature on 64848? | 01:28 |
| Adri2000 | jamesh: yes | 01:28 |
| jamesh | Adri2000: okay. My understanding is that one of the Ubuntu developers can then approve the nomination if they think it is worth backporting the fix | 01:29 |
| jamesh | Adri2000: they might also decline the nomination | 01:30 |
| jamesh | in both cases, there will be a record of the decision in the bug report | 01:30 |
| Adri2000 | maybe, I'm going to ask an ubuntu dev now | 01:30 |
| jamesh | if they approve it, you get a distro release specific bug task | 01:30 |
| jamesh | where the progress of the fix in that release can be tracked. | 01:30 |
| Adri2000 | that's what I wanted when I used "nominate for release" :) | 01:31 |
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| jamesh | mpt: re: your branch, if you make getTaskRowCSSClass return None instead of '', no class attribute will be output | 01:33 |
| jamesh | mpt: other than that, your branch looks okay. | 01:34 |
| mpt | jamesh, ah, I wondered idly if that would work, but didn't actually try it | 01:41 |
| mpt | thank you | 01:41 |
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| mpt | Not outputting a class attribute at all would make the pagetest less though (it would no longer catch a case where we were accidentally highlighting every task, because there are other <tr>s between those for each task) | 01:42 |
| mpt | where by "less" I mean "less stringent" | 01:43 |
| jamesh | how many extra tr's are there? | 01:46 |
| Adri2000 | jamesh: asked a motu and he can't see anything to change these nominations for release | 01:48 |
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| mpt | jamesh, oh, since I'm looking at a specific page I suppose I could include all the <tr>s individually | 01:51 |
| ajmitch | Adri2000: looks like core devs can approve/decline | 01:51 |
| mpt | jamesh, do you have any thoughts on the code for getting the current bugtask? | 01:51 |
| jamesh | Adri2000: there should be a "Target to Release" menu item on the bug (instead of "Nominate for Release") if the person is allowed to accept nominations | 01:52 |
| mpt | I'm calling the launchbag myself it in bugtask.py, and there's a function to do exactly the same thing in bug.py | 01:52 |
| Adri2000 | ajmitch: even for universe package... that's stupid :/ | 01:52 |
| Adri2000 | IMO, the right to accept nominations should go to ubuntu-dev also, and why not QA team | 01:53 |
| Adri2000 | it can still be rejected if the developers finally decide it won't be fixed in the stable release | 01:54 |
| mpt | jamesh: ... and also in the immediately-preceding class in bugtask.py :-/ | 01:55 |
| mpt | that's a fair bit of duplication | 01:55 |
| somerville32 | Can anyone check to see if my mail alias is active? I have a gmail account and it doesn't allow me to mail myself (or so I've been told). | 02:02 |
| mdke | username? | 02:04 |
| mdke | although, I dont' see why you wouldn't be able to mail your alias from gmail | 02:04 |
| somerville32 | cody-somerville | 02:05 |
| somerville32 | mdke: I tried and it didn't work and I heard Elmo say it the other day | 02:05 |
| mdke | is that specific to gmail? | 02:06 |
| mdke | the email is on its way | 02:06 |
| somerville32 | Thanks | 02:06 |
| somerville32 | Works | 02:07 |
| somerville32 | Thanks :) | 02:07 |
| mdke | is that specific to gmail? | 02:08 |
| somerville32 | Thats the impression Elmo gave | 02:09 |
| mdke | how odd | 02:09 |
| mpt | jamesh, instead of inserting all the <tr>s in the test, I'm testing that (a) there is a <tr class="highlight"> in the right place, and (b) anon_browser.contents.count('<tr class="highlight">') returns 1 | 02:11 |
| jamesh | mpt: that sounds good. | 02:11 |
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| mpt | sfllaw, around? | 03:16 |
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| effie_jayx | dear all... | 04:27 |
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| effie_jayx | I need help changin the name of a LoCo team | 04:27 |
| effie_jayx | how can I do it... ? | 04:27 |
| effie_jayx | anyone ;) | 04:29 |
| Rinchen | effie_jayx, in Launchpad? | 04:29 |
| effie_jayx | ajam | 04:29 |
| Rinchen | it's under change team details | 04:29 |
| effie_jayx | great | 04:30 |
| effie_jayx | I'll check | 04:30 |
| Rinchen | and it should follow the standard format that Jono is requesting btw | 04:30 |
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| effie_jayx | Rinchen, the stardard is? | 04:54 |
| Rinchen | ubuntu-team | 04:54 |
| Rinchen | let me get you the info url | 04:54 |
| Rinchen | one moment | 04:54 |
| effie_jayx | Rinchen, example... ubuntu-cina | 04:54 |
| effie_jayx | Rinchen, example... ubuntu-china | 04:54 |
| Rinchen | yes. | 04:55 |
| Rinchen | hmm was on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto but it seems to be missing | 04:55 |
| effie_jayx | ok | 04:56 |
| Rinchen | China already exists btw | 04:56 |
| effie_jayx | how about | 04:56 |
| Rinchen | ubuntu-zh | 04:56 |
| effie_jayx | ubuntu-dominican-republic | 04:56 |
| effie_jayx | or is it ok to name it ... ubuntu-do | 04:56 |
| Rinchen | you might want to ask this on #ubuntu-locoteams .... but yes. Either ubuntu-name or ubuntu-countrycode | 04:57 |
| Rinchen | ubuntu-cc is the base standard for countries | 04:58 |
| effie_jayx | ok | 04:58 |
| effie_jayx | it is done then | 04:58 |
| Rinchen | but if you are a subteam in country it's a bit a different. | 04:58 |
| effie_jayx | a latin american team | 04:58 |
| effie_jayx | is having language problems to understand policies | 04:58 |
| effie_jayx | and I am helping em | 04:58 |
| Rinchen | nifty, best to talk on ubuntu-locoteams where we all hang out | 04:59 |
| effie_jayx | Rinchen... yeah.. launchpad bit is done | 05:00 |
| effie_jayx | :D | 05:00 |
| effie_jayx | thanks | 05:00 |
| Rinchen | my pleasure | 05:00 |
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| stub | Any other cherry picks inbound before I get started? | 06:31 |
| mpt | stub, just checking, did you see the one I asked for? | 06:59 |
| jamesh | mpt: note that your rev probably won't cleanly cherrypick | 07:08 |
| jamesh | mpt: since the tests you added use the short URLs, while the current production branch does not. | 07:11 |
| mpt | ah. | 07:13 |
| mpt | Should I change it to use old-style URLs? | 07:13 |
| mpt | (that feels like a silly question, but I don't know which direction it's silly in) | 07:14 |
| jamesh | I suppose. Or get stub to merge from a branch with the URLs changed | 07:14 |
| jamesh | probably the latter | 07:14 |
| mpt | ok | 07:15 |
| jamesh | i.e. branch off production and cherrypick your change, and fix the tests | 07:16 |
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| jamesh | mpt: btw, have you seen how forms are handled on the mugshot.org site? | 07:34 |
| mpt | no | 07:36 |
| jamesh | it is basically instant apply | 07:37 |
| jamesh | when you change focus out of a field, it applies the change | 07:37 |
| jamesh | (or shows you an error message) | 07:37 |
| mpt | nifty | 07:41 |
| jamesh | I have a few invites for the mugshot if you want to play around with it | 07:42 |
| mpt | yes please :-) | 07:56 |
| jamesh | what email should I use? | 07:59 |
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| mpt | jamesh, mpt at myrealbox dotcom | 08:28 |
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| jamesh | mpt: I ended up sending it to your @canonical.com address -- I think you can add extra email addresses afterwards (or change them) | 08:38 |
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| stub | mpt: Yer. That cherry pick request isn't cherry pickable - xx-bug-index.txt is failing. | 09:06 |
| stub | mpt: Works if I pull out the new bit of test you added though | 09:08 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks BjornT. | 09:10 |
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| mpt | stub, so do you want to just leave it testless until the next rollout? | 09:29 |
| stub | That one feature - should be fine. | 09:29 |
| mpt | ok | 09:30 |
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| Fujitsu | Is it deliberate that ubuntu-dev shouldn't be allowed to target bugs to previous releases? Previously we could add tasks for old releases... | 10:44 |
| BjornT | Fujitsu: at the moment only the driver of a release may target bugs directly. there will probably be some discussions re the permissions, though, so it's not impossible that it will change soon. | 10:48 |
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| spiv | jamesh, BjornT: were one of you going to run the review team meeting? | 11:01 |
| jamesh | spiv: I think it's me | 11:02 |
| BjornT | yeah, jamesh should run it | 11:04 |
| jamesh | so, who do we have? | 11:04 |
| === spiv waves from the dinner table | ||
| jamesh | == Agenda == | 11:04 |
| jamesh | * Roll call | 11:04 |
| jamesh | * Queue status. | 11:04 |
| jamesh | * reviewers to discuss ideas and principles for keeping branch review quick | 11:04 |
| BjornT | me | 11:05 |
| jamesh | SteveA: do you have time for the reviewers meeting? | 11:06 |
| SteveA | yes | 11:06 |
| SteveA | hi | 11:06 |
| jamesh | okay, excluding the ancient branches, there is one 7 day old branch and four 4 day old branches | 11:07 |
| jamesh | the rest are less than 3 days old, which isn't particularly old for monday | 11:08 |
| jamesh | one of the 4 day old branches is mine, which I'll look at finishing off today | 11:09 |
| jamesh | one is Bjorn's | 11:09 |
| jamesh | the other 2 are salgado's | 11:09 |
| SteveA | I want to note that I closed the tree to database landings in general | 11:10 |
| SteveA | we can still do important database landings to mainline | 11:10 |
| BjornT | jamesh: i'm hoping to review my branch today. although i have a bunch of critical bugs to fix, so i'm not totally sure i will have time. | 11:11 |
| SteveA | but these need to be coordinated with me and stub | 11:11 |
| jamesh | BjornT: as far as allocating the rest of the branches, when do people go on holiday? | 11:11 |
| jamesh | s/BjornT// | 11:11 |
| SteveA | when I say "closed the tree", it means just that I said "don't do any database landings". it isn't enforced by pqm | 11:11 |
| jamesh | BjornT: will you have time for any more before you leave? | 11:11 |
| BjornT | jamesh: tomorrow. i've already put a note about it on PendingReviews | 11:11 |
| BjornT | jamesh: no | 11:12 |
| jamesh | okay. I'm leaving on thursday night, so should have time for some. | 11:12 |
| jamesh | spiv: how about you? | 11:12 |
| spiv | I'm working all this week. | 11:13 |
| spiv | i.e. my last pre-Christmas day will be Fri 22nd. | 11:13 |
| jamesh | okay. looking at salgado's calendar, he's the same as you | 11:14 |
| jamesh | so I'll share the branches out between me, spiv and salgado | 11:15 |
| jamesh | anything more to say about keeping branch review quick? | 11:16 |
| BjornT | not from me | 11:16 |
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| spiv | nor me | 11:17 |
| jamesh | I haven't done any calls about large w-i-p branches, but it might be worth considering again in the new year | 11:17 |
| jamesh | any other business? | 11:18 |
| jamesh | 5 | 11:18 |
| jamesh | 4 | 11:18 |
| jamesh | 3 | 11:18 |
| jamesh | 2 | 11:18 |
| jamesh | 1 | 11:18 |
| jamesh | in that case, end of meeting. | 11:18 |
| jamesh | thanks for coming | 11:19 |
| jamesh | I knew there was something I forgot: time of next meeting. | 11:20 |
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| jamesh | spiv/BjornT: is next January 8th good? (given that the next two Mondays are Christmas and New Years Day respectively) | 11:21 |
| spiv | jamesh: seems sane | 11:21 |
| BjornT | jamesh: yeah | 11:23 |
| mpt | SteveA, should my #1 task be to fix pagetests so I can merge 2006-08-ui into ui-one-zero? | 11:28 |
| SteveA | mpt: I'm on a call. I'd like to speak with you shortly about this. | 11:29 |
| mpt | well, I *should* be in bed ... :-) | 11:31 |
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| matthewrevell | Hey guys. I may have missed the discussion of this, but when did bug #1 start redirecting to a static HTML page? | 11:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl) | 11:41 |
| jamesh | matthewrevell: when it got slashdotted | 11:41 |
| matthewrevell | A few weeks ago, wasn't it? | 11:42 |
| jamesh | yeah. | 11:42 |
| jamesh | I guess it didn't get switched back | 11:42 |
| matthewrevell | Is it much work to switch it back? | 11:42 |
| Fujitsu | Wasn't it due to an insane amount of vandalism? | 11:43 |
| jamesh | possibly that too | 11:43 |
| matthewrevell | Ah right. | 11:44 |
| mpt | It's still getting vandalized by e-mail | 11:46 |
| mpt | Well, perhaps "vandalized" is too strong a word | 11:46 |
| mpt | but one of the comments was entirely in Japanese | 11:47 |
| Ng | matthewrevell: that should now be back to normal | 11:52 |
| matthewrevell | Ng: superb, thanks. Any chance that the https://launchpad.net/bug1.html page could redirect to the dynamic page? it's been linked to in some blog posts | 11:54 |
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| mpt | yay for temporary pages not served with HTTP 302 :-( | 11:56 |
| BjornT | any reviewer available for a quick review for fixing bug 75950? | 11:57 |
| BjornT | https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filedkqGJF.html | 11:57 |
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| Ubugtu | Malone bug 75950 in malone "Debian tasks have lost all content" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/75950 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) | 11:57 |
| Fujitsu | :D | 11:57 |
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| Ng | matthewrevell: good plan, that's also done now | 12:00 |
| matthewrevell | Ng: thanks :) | 12:01 |
| matthewrevell | Ng: does that take a while to kick in? | 12:01 |
| Ng | matthewrevell: it should work straight away, subject to any caches/proxies you are behind | 12:01 |
| matthewrevell | Ng: Okay, cool. | 12:01 |
| BjornT | jamesh: would you have time to review a one-line fix (together with a few tests)? | 12:06 |
| jamesh | BjornT: okay | 12:08 |
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| BjornT | jamesh: thanks. https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filedkqGJF.html | 12:12 |
| BjornT | jamesh: it fixes bug 75950 | 12:12 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 75950 in malone "Debian tasks have lost all content" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/75950 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) | 12:12 |
| jamesh | BjornT: looks okay, but you should change "Gento" to "Gentoo" in xx-edit-no-currentrelease-distribution-task.txt | 12:14 |
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| BjornT | jamesh: ah, right. thanks! | 12:15 |
| aa_ | hi, I am so sorry, I totally messed up what is a feature and what is a milestone. I really would like to delete all the milestones for my project. Where can I apply this support request please? | 12:31 |
| salgado | jamesh, do we keep the diffs of previous runs of the pending-reviews script? | 12:37 |
| jamesh | salgado: we keep a copy of the previous half hour's run | 12:41 |
| jamesh | but that's it | 12:41 |
| salgado | jamesh, would it be possible for this to happen: | 12:42 |
| salgado | 1. I do some changes on one of my branches, commit them and push to devpad | 12:43 |
| salgado | 2. a server crash corrupts my branch, I recover from the 1-day old backup, which doesn't include my last changes on that branch | 12:43 |
| matsubara | bug 75522 | 12:44 |
| salgado | 3. I do some changes on /other branch/ and push just that other branch, then the changes that I had pushed but didn't exist on my local repo are overridden | 12:45 |
| jamesh | salgado: if you know the revision IDs for your lost work, it is entirely possible that they can be recovered from the pending-reviews script's working repository | 12:45 |
| salgado | hmmm | 12:46 |
| === salgado checks | ||
| danilos | kiko-afk: ping | 12:46 |
| salgado | jamesh, it should be r4286 of my image-widget branch. how can I check if that exists in the work repo of pending reviews? | 12:48 |
| salgado | r4287, actually | 12:48 |
| jamesh | let me check | 12:49 |
| jamesh | salgado: what would the date portion of the revision ID be? | 12:53 |
| salgado | jamesh, 2006-12-14 | 12:54 |
| salgado | the day of the crash. :/ | 12:54 |
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| jamesh | salgado: the only 2006-12-14 revisions are for team-membership-fixes | 12:57 |
| jamesh | salgado: there are some for 2006-12-13, which might be it | 12:58 |
| jamesh | there is guilherme.salgado@canonical.com-20061213140125-a1b060422dfcf925 with the message "Final changes and tests for the validation stuff" | 12:59 |
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| salgado | jamesh, this is the last one I have here too. it's starting to look like I forgot to push the changes | 12:59 |
| static | good morning launchpadders | 01:00 |
| jamesh | salgado: so it isn't worth me trying to construct a branch from then? | 01:00 |
| salgado | or maybe not | 01:00 |
| salgado | one second | 01:00 |
| salgado | jamesh, would you be able to get just the changes introduced in that specific revision? | 01:01 |
| matthewrevell | static: Morning! Welcome to the team :) | 01:04 |
| static | thanks matthewrevell :) | 01:04 |
| jamesh | salgado: https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/salgado-diff | 01:06 |
| salgado | jamesh, thanks a lot, dude. I actually lost more than I thought | 01:09 |
| jamesh | salgado: so you want me to try and recover it? | 01:10 |
| salgado | these are some of the changes I lost, but it's looking like there are other changes that were lost on the 14th | 01:10 |
| salgado | jamesh, I guess I can just apply this patch | 01:10 |
| salgado | BjornT, I guess you haven't started reviewing my image-widget branch, right? | 01:11 |
| BjornT | salgado: no. i was planning to do it this morning, but had to fix a few critical bugs instead... although looks like it was good to wait. | 01:12 |
| BjornT | salgado: ping me when everything is sorted out. it'd be good if you could mail me the new diff as well. | 01:12 |
| salgado | indeed. I'm removing it from the general queue until I sort everything out | 01:13 |
| salgado | sure thing; will do that | 01:13 |
| jamesh | salgado: when the branch finishes building, see ~jamesh/pending_reviews/work/image-widget | 01:16 |
| jamesh | salgado: you should be able to branch it now | 01:17 |
| jamesh | salgado: it is at r4286 | 01:18 |
| === salgado does it | ||
| salgado | thanks a lot, jamesh. you're a star! | 01:19 |
| jamesh | salgado: don't do this too often :) | 01:19 |
| jamesh | it took a bit of effort to work out exactly what to do | 01:21 |
| === jamesh should write up the steps to do this sort of recovery | ||
| salgado | oh, come on. I'm sure that was easy for you! | 01:21 |
| === salgado surely owes jamesh a couple of beers | ||
| kiko-afk | morning salgado | 01:33 |
| salgado | hey kiko | 01:33 |
| kiko-afk | hey danilos | 01:35 |
| danilos | hey kiko | 01:35 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #76273 in malone "check_watches.py output switched off due to huge size" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76273 | 01:35 |
| danilos | kiko-afk: I want to move several things from where they are standing at the moment: translation licensing wrap-up, and debian-installer rosetta usage | 01:35 |
| salgado | jamesh, what would be the best way to override the data on my repo with the data on that branch you just recovered to me? | 01:36 |
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| kiko | danilos, I need to finish a review for matsubara. | 01:44 |
| kiko | salgado, do you actually have to? otherwise ask on #bzr? | 01:44 |
| danilos | kiko: sure, I may drop off to lunch soon anyway | 01:45 |
| salgado | kiko, it looks like my image-widget branch has been fucked up in my repo. I'll just create a new branch from the one recovered by jamesh and forget about the old one | 01:46 |
| kiko | that's what I was going to suggest | 01:46 |
| salgado | I think this is easier and shouldn't cause me any trouble | 01:47 |
| kiko | it's kinda weird though | 01:47 |
| kiko | might even be a bug in repo handling | 01:47 |
| salgado | that doesn't work, apparently | 01:47 |
| kiko | salgado, so explain to me how this happened -- what corruption are you identifying? | 01:47 |
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| salgado | I don't know how it happened; I'm trying to find out | 01:51 |
| kiko | salgado, okay, maybe back up to /what/ happened | 01:52 |
| salgado | okay, what happens is that my repo seems to be fucked up | 01:53 |
| salgado | I'll explain | 01:53 |
| kiko | lol | 01:53 |
| kiko | local or remotely? | 01:54 |
| salgado | I have my image-widget branch there, and it seems to contain all revisions it should | 01:54 |
| salgado | bzr log shows that it actually contains all the revisions | 01:54 |
| salgado | but the changes are not there | 01:54 |
| kiko | ok so far. | 01:54 |
| salgado | (I'm doing this on a fresh checkout of that branch) | 01:54 |
| kiko | you just contradicted yourself | 01:54 |
| kiko | can you rephrase that? | 01:54 |
| salgado | it does contain all the revisions, as shown by "bzr log" | 01:55 |
| salgado | but the changes introduced by some of the latest revisions are not actually there | 01:55 |
| kiko | that's another way of contradicting yourself but now I think I understood | 01:56 |
| kiko | you are saying that | 01:56 |
| kiko | - bzr log reports having all the revisions you expect it did | 01:56 |
| kiko | - the working tree itself doesn't | 01:56 |
| salgado | I didn't notice this before because I had an old checkout which contains the revision ids /and/ the changes | 01:57 |
| kiko | I see | 01:57 |
| kiko | salgado, if you request the individual diffs | 01:58 |
| kiko | what does it say? | 01:58 |
| kiko | i.e. diff -r X-1..X | 01:58 |
| salgado | the diff for the latest revision is empty | 01:58 |
| kiko | only for the latest one? | 01:59 |
| salgado | yeah | 01:59 |
| kiko | do you have the diff there? | 02:00 |
| salgado | I can get the diff from the branch jamesh recovered | 02:00 |
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| ddaa | salgado: maybe the working tree is out of date. "bzr st" should tell you (with recent bzr). And bzr update would fix it. | 02:15 |
| ddaa | (be careful with bzr update if you have uncomitted changes, or local commits for a bound branch) | 02:16 |
| salgado | ddaa, bzr st doesn't tell me anything :/ | 02:19 |
| ddaa | weird, to be sure try just "bzr branch"ing it so you the tree will be built from the branch data. | 02:21 |
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| ddaa | then if the tree is wrong, you know that it's the branch data. Maybe a merge reverted the changes by mistake (it happened to me once, typing "bzr revert" instead of "bzr resolve". | 02:22 |
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| jamesh | salgado: no idea about overriding the data in your repo | 03:03 |
| jamesh | salgado: other than starting a new repo and branching all your old branches into it | 03:03 |
| salgado | well, I just removed my image-widget branch from my repo | 03:04 |
| salgado | and it seems to have worked | 03:04 |
| salgado | is that something safe to do? | 03:04 |
| jamesh | removing a branch from a repo leaves all the revisions behind | 03:05 |
| jamesh | (this is why I was able to recover your branch from the working repo used by pending-reviews) | 03:05 |
| jamesh | in what way was the branch in your repo broken? | 03:06 |
| salgado | jamesh, "bzr log" was telling me that the revision was there, but in fact it wasn't | 03:07 |
| jamesh | what aspect of the revision wasn't there? | 03:08 |
| salgado | the changes | 03:09 |
| jamesh | did bzr report an error? | 03:11 |
| salgado | no, no errors. everything seemed to be alright | 03:12 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #76281 in malone "Not possible to view the status of a bug branch" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76281 | 03:15 |
| kiko | salgado, is it fixed now? | 03:38 |
| salgado | kiko, aparently, yes. if I do a fresh checkout of that branch I can see all the changes. (both on my local repo and on devpad) | 03:40 |
| kiko | weird. | 03:40 |
| salgado | the diff on pending-reviews is still wrong, though | 03:40 |
| salgado | kiko, team-membership-janitor. is that a good name for the bot which flags expired memberships? | 03:42 |
| kiko | yes | 03:42 |
| salgado | the team-membership-fixes branch ended up a bit bigger than what I expected. around 2k lines diff | 03:43 |
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| kiko | salgado, not too bad for all that fixage. | 03:46 |
| salgado | indeed | 03:48 |
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| MatthiasM_ | Can somebody help me merging https://launchpad.net/products/gnompe-pim and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-pim - I don't know how to clean up my own mess :( | 04:17 |
| kiko | MatthiasM_, what is to be merged there? They seem to be perfectly correct in being separate | 04:18 |
| MatthiasM_ | ah, okay.. I guess it is not possible to get rid of my stupid typo: gnom'p'e-pim | 04:20 |
| salgado | MatthiasM_, at https://launchpad.net/products/gnompe-pim/+edit you should be able to do that | 04:21 |
| MatthiasM_ | I created a new project http://freshmeat.net/redir/gnome-pim/22595/url_deb/gnome-pim with the correct url. Is it possible to delete the old typo project (I hate leaving my mess) | 04:27 |
| MatthiasM_ | I mean https://launchpad.net/products/gnome-pim | 04:27 |
| salgado | MatthiasM_, our policy is to not delete products, but if you create a ticket at https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+addticket somebody will take care of setting the typoed product as disabled | 04:33 |
| MatthiasM_ | thanks | 04:33 |
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| MatthiasM_ | sorry for the annoyance | 04:34 |
| salgado-lunch | no worries, that's not annoyance at all, MatthiasM_ | 04:34 |
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| salgado-lunch | I'd have marked the product as disabled myself, but I don't have the necessary permissions | 04:35 |
| salgado-lunch | bbl | 04:35 |
| MatthiasM_ | good appetite! | 04:35 |
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| elmo | is there a bug open about the need for paging in bug reports? | 04:50 |
| kiko | elmo, you mean batching of comments because they are too many? | 04:50 |
| elmo | yeah | 04:51 |
| elmo | like bug #1 makes my browser cry ATM | 04:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl) | 04:51 |
| kiko | elmo, no, but stub has said we need to. one problem I see with batching is that comments are chronological -- so you have that issue of allowing people to add a comment after the first page | 04:53 |
| kiko | so either you only let people add comments on the last page | 04:53 |
| kiko | or... | 04:53 |
| kiko | you reverse the order of the comments | 04:53 |
| elmo | haha | 04:53 |
| kiko | which is in itself another problem | 04:53 |
| kiko | or.. I dunno. there may be other solutions | 04:54 |
| kiko | elmo, one question is whether collapsing of comments would be a better solution there | 04:54 |
| kiko | i.e. relevant/irrelevant | 04:54 |
| kiko | I personally don't really like bug #1 because it's a bad example | 04:54 |
| kiko | it's mostly entirely irrelevant | 04:54 |
| elmo | right, it's a bad example in that respect | 04:55 |
| elmo | it's only really a good example in the sense of demonstrating how browsers don't cope well with pages that large | 04:55 |
| elmo | I suspect in most other, better, examples, the signal to noise ratio would be less pronounced | 04:55 |
| kiko | elmo, yeah. do other bugs actually cause this problem that you know of? | 04:55 |
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| kiko | elmo, the thing is that we can do something to mark noise specifically "Collapse irrelevant comments" | 04:56 |
| kiko | whereas if you have 1000 comments and all are signal | 04:56 |
| elmo | kiko: not that I know of, no (which is probably why there's not a bug about it yet) | 04:56 |
| kiko | then letting people comment on the bug without reading the 1000 comments will tend to get you "Uhh, did you read comment 501?" (where batch size is 500) | 04:56 |
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| elmo | maybe there's someway to distinguish signal and noise more officially like "this is a comment (e.g. 'also broke for me')" versus "this is me trying to fix the bug (e.g. here's a patch)"</bluesky/rambling> | 04:59 |
| kiko-fud | elmo, yeah, maybe. but maybe the first case is better coped with a "Me too" sort of feature -- being able to report that this bug also affects me. | 05:00 |
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| kiko | matthewrevell, remember I pinged you about a launchpad-users post? | 06:08 |
| kiko | did you do anything about it? | 06:08 |
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| matthewrevell | kiko: Yeah - it was the Spanish guy, right? | 06:09 |
| kiko | no. | 06:09 |
| kiko | oh, maybe he is. puxole@ ? | 06:09 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: just a sec | 06:09 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, did you contact him? | 06:09 |
| matthewrevell | Yeah, that's him | 06:10 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, ah, ok. why didn't you drop or approve his message from the queue? | 06:10 |
| matthewrevell | I sent him a mail asking exactly what he wanted to be regiustered for | 06:10 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: As a reminder to chase him up, if I didn't hear back. | 06:10 |
| kiko | ah, ok | 06:11 |
| kiko | then tell me too :-) | 06:11 |
| matthewrevell | Ok, will do. | 06:11 |
| matthewrevell | in future :) | 06:11 |
| kiko | but if you don't hear back, then, well -- there's not much more we can do for him :) | 06:11 |
| matthewrevell | True. | 06:11 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, does he need to be unsubscribed from the list if so, btw? | 06:11 |
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| matthewrevell | Ah, I read it as he wanted to be subscribed to something (Babelfish translation at work)( | 06:12 |
| kiko | he's not subscribed to launchpad-users, no | 06:12 |
| matthewrevell | My email to him was to ask what he wanted to subscribe to, because I wasn't sure if he wanted free CDs, or what. | 06:12 |
| kiko | he says "I don't speak english but I want to subscribe." :-) | 06:13 |
| kiko | I think it's worth dropping the mail | 06:13 |
| matthewrevell | Okay. Can we assume he actually wanted to unsubscribe? | 06:14 |
| kiko | he wasn't subscribed | 06:14 |
| kiko | I think he wanted something | 06:14 |
| kiko | but what exactly I have no idea ;-) | 06:14 |
| kiko | if he replies we will find out | 06:14 |
| kiko | if he doesn't, well, we have other users who are vocal enough about what they want. :) | 06:14 |
| matthewrevell | I found him in the subscriber list | 06:15 |
| kiko | you did? | 06:15 |
| kiko | where? | 06:15 |
| matthewrevell | Yeah, I searched for his email addr | 06:15 |
| matthewrevell | poxole at a popular web mail service | 06:15 |
| kiko | poxole, not puxole? | 06:16 |
| kiko | hmph | 06:16 |
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| matthewrevell | kiko: cool | 06:16 |
| kiko | now let him complain! :-) | 06:16 |
| matthewrevell | :-D | 06:16 |
| kiko | first time list moderation serves us some good I think | 06:16 |
| matthewrevell | Yes, definitely. | 06:17 |
| kiko | or have you seen any other cases | 06:17 |
| kiko | I might have phrased that better | 06:17 |
| kiko | it's the first time I see list moderation serves us some good I think | 06:17 |
| matthewrevell | Most of what's been in the moderation queue has been spam, since I started. | 06:17 |
| kiko | well, yes | 06:17 |
| kiko | but we also enabled first-post-moderation | 06:17 |
| kiko | which is what I think this was. | 06:17 |
| matthewrevell | Yeah, there have been three or possibly four posts | 06:18 |
| kiko | right | 06:18 |
| matthewrevell | each of which was asking to be unsub'd | 06:18 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, do you use "listadmin"? | 06:18 |
| matthewrevell | and two in Spanish, I think | 06:18 |
| matthewrevell | I've been using the mailman web interface | 06:18 |
| kiko | listadmin is not bad. | 06:18 |
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| matthewrevell | kiko: thanks, I'll try that | 06:20 |
| kiko | most welcome | 06:20 |
| salgado | BjornT, I guess you won't be able to review my image-widget branch, right? | 06:28 |
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| BjornT | salgado: no, sorry, i won't have time. | 06:31 |
| elmo | ehm | 06:32 |
| elmo | https://launchpad.net/products/bzr | 06:32 |
| elmo | is a) sorted in the wrong order (oldest first), b) doesn't sort numerically (so 0.9 comes _after_ 0.13) | 06:32 |
| elmo | either of those known bugs (if anyone knows offhand, if not, I'll just file them) | 06:32 |
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| kiko | elmo, I'm not sure -- I don't think they are filed, though there was a report by mpool about this on launchpad-users, so perhaps. | 06:36 |
| kiko | matsubara, do you know? | 06:36 |
| elmo | sweet a 3 digit bug | 06:38 |
| elmo | bug 687 | 06:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 687 in launchpad "ProductReleaseVocabulary doesn't sort correctly" [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/687 | 06:39 |
| elmo | ah, mpt's already reported it too | 06:41 |
| elmo | bug 73094 et al. | 06:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 73094 in launchpad "Product page should order series by importance, releases in order" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73094 | 06:41 |
| matsubara | elmo: bug 38721 | 06:45 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38721 in launchpad "Launchpad: the sort order in project name milestones" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38721 | 06:45 |
| elmo | yeah, this is a pretty commonly reported bug ;-) | 06:46 |
| kiko | matsubara, can you dupe and raise to high? | 06:50 |
| matsubara | kiko: ok | 06:52 |
| kiko | thanks | 06:52 |
| kiko | I could do that one day | 06:52 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #76305 in soyuz "Avoid duplication of BuildQueue records on system failures" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76305 | 07:25 |
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| kiko | BjornT, ping | 08:17 |
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| BjornT | kiko: pong | 08:25 |
| kiko | BjornT, I have a branch which implements Mantis watches. I'd love to land it before vacation, and I think you're the best guy to look at it. I was writing the test for it now, but maybe you can look at it before you leave... I dunno, nobody else knows watches like you do, but jamesh might be able to do it if you don't want to | 08:26 |
| BjornT | kiko: well. if you give me the diff i might look at it tonight. | 08:28 |
| kiko | say no more! | 08:30 |
| kiko | BjornT, https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/fileYY5vjr.html | 08:30 |
| kiko | BjornT, is email with inlined diff better? I am all for making your life easier | 08:30 |
| BjornT | kiko: i hate it when you send me the diff inlined ;) e-mail with the diff attached is the best, but paste is good for now. | 08:32 |
| kiko | OK. | 08:32 |
| kiko | BjornT, diff inlined is the future! you need a better mailer :-P | 08:33 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #76319 in launchpad-support-tracker "+needattentiontickets page timing out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76319 | 08:35 |
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| kiko | BjornT, ping part 2. | 08:54 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #76340 in malone "Should allow multiple bug contacts for products, as with packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76340 | 10:05 |
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| ryanakca | erm, how would I move this bug over to launchpad's bugs, seeing that it isn't an ubuntu bug, I don't think... bug 76322 | 11:18 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76322 in launchpad-integration "Should be possible to specify package in Launchpad advanced bug search" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76322 | 11:18 |
| mdke | ryanakca: open an upstream task | 11:23 |
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| ryanakca | mdke: now that I look at the bug, it's pointless, the user simply doesn't know how to use advanced bug search (I think) | 11:23 |
| ryanakca | rejecting | 11:24 |
| mdke | ok! | 11:24 |
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