=== Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:54] beuno: still there? :) [12:56] Team, please review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite === jenda goes sleepytime. === nixternal looks === nixternal might be taking a marketing job with a fairly popular OSS company === rjian [n=chatzill@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:26] somerville32: you around? [02:26] Of course :) [02:27] shall we chat quickly about a script? [02:27] Sure. : ) [02:27] here is what I envision [02:27] your script parses the emails and then dumps the result out to be pasted into the wiki page [02:27] after that they are hand sorted as needed] [02:28] but here is the challenge with the script: it has to parse the body of the email, not just the subject line === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:29] Hmm... [02:29] however, parsing isnt so bad [02:30] you need to search for any number of numbers, followed a - and then a 1 [02:30] So you only want new upstream releases, right? [02:30] yes === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-197-83.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:34] Want it divided by repository? [02:34] nope [02:34] Section? [02:34] nope [02:34] that is done after [02:35] I mean repository section (ie. Science, Graphics, Gnome, etc.) [02:35] That way people can pick packages to talk about that they know something about (or help them to do that) === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:36] I mean repository section (ie. Science, Graphics, Gnome, etc.) [02:36] That way people can pick packages to talk about that they know something about (or help them to do that) [02:36] And we could also sort feisty changes by repository section [02:37] We kind of do already [02:38] yep [02:38] we could do that, see how it works === somerville32 nods. [02:38] So I'll get it to output in Wiki format [02:38] ie. [02:38] === Science === [02:38] by on [02:39] yep, that works [02:39] Burgundavia: was the gmail account created? [02:39] poningru: nope, going to try this instead [02:40] I can get it to try and pull an html link to put with it from the package description if you'd like [02:40] Most packages have a link in their long description [02:41] that would be good [02:41] what are we trying? [02:41] Magic [02:42] : ) [02:42] poningru: what timezone are you? [02:43] NA [02:43] EST [02:43] somerville32: what kind of timeframe are we looking at? can you test your stuff on 25? [02:43] 25th of December? [02:43] Oh [02:43] UWN 25 [02:43] ie: do I need to sort through my UWN queue to get 25 out? [02:44] tbh, I am little bit burnt out right now, mostly from work [02:44] poningru: which state? [02:47] florida [02:47] ah === Rinchen [n=Rinchen@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:47] I go to uni of florida silly ;) [02:47] oh right, that [02:47] ufl ftw :p [02:48] Burgundavia: I would say no since we should get UWN 25 out ASAP and I most likely won't have it finished and tested tonight (I got the flu) [02:48] ah right [02:48] ok [02:54] somerville32: dude can you show me some of that magic? [02:55] poningru, lol, once I finish "casting" it, sure ;] [02:57] Burgundavia, Are you going to do Mark's letter and the Kurdish follow up? [02:57] ugh [02:57] we can the latter [02:57] somebody else can write the former :) === somerville32 knows very little about both. === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:59] somerville32: make sure your wand movements are good [02:59] and enunciate the spell [02:59] ;) [03:00] poningru, This is so going to be a hack job ;] === somerville32 grins. [03:02] Welp, I need to go to bed. === somerville32 goes to find a corner to die in. === somerville32 hates having the flu. [03:04] Burgundavia, i'll have a crack soon [03:04] ... [03:04] Burgundavia, I doubt I'm going to be going anywhere tomorrow with this flu so I'll code the script tomorrow and write the Mark's letter thinger. [03:12] sounds good [03:12] marks letter, we looking at 25 or 26? [03:12] 25 [03:12] We promised it in 25 [03:13] Alrighty deferred from 24 [03:13] *Already [03:13] better find some way to do it [03:14] tonyyarusso, I'm doing it tomorrow [03:14] We should also add a content freeze on 25 so that new content goes to 26 [03:14] right [03:15] I think I probably want to hand off the chief editor position at this point [03:19] I just need to find a good sucker [03:23] lol === elkbuntu hides [03:25] I was actually thinking somerville32 === somerville32 ponders. [03:27] Good be good [03:27] Alrighty, I'll do it. :] [03:27] Certainly not me - I'd get eaten alive :( [03:27] Hurrah for somerville32 ! [03:28] the king is dead, long live the king [03:28] lol [03:29] Gah, I don't even remember which issue is which anymore. [03:29] ok, I have a list for the feisty changes [03:29] 25 [03:29] shall I dump it into gobby and we can start work? [03:29] Do I still owe my beats for this issue, or are they done? [03:29] tonyyarusso, They are done but feel free to start on 26 [03:29] somerville32: Which releases when? [03:30] already done [03:30] 26 should release ASAP as well [03:30] Hmm, okay. [03:30] (ie. the 20th) [03:30] I am slowly trying to ween myself off of the "I need to do everything" mentality I sometimes get into [03:31] Burgundavia, I know what you mean ;] [03:31] because that is only going to burn me out [03:31] That I can do. The 19th is my last exam, so I can throw some things on as a break from packing. [03:31] Ok, lets try and get UWN 24 out tonight - I think we can do it. [03:31] If not tonight, for tomorrow for sure [03:32] you mean 25 [03:32] right :] === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:33] elkbuntu, Can you do the Turkish follow up? [03:33] somerville32, yeah [03:35] elkbuntu: there is a utah-ecuador link to be written about as well [03:35] Burgundavia, yeah [03:38] tonyyarusso, Can you help out with Feisty changes? [03:38] somerville32: Okay, what's it need? I haven't really been paying attention to how they're done lately. [03:39] Burgundavia, Can you throw it up on Gobby? [03:39] tonyyarusso, There are inline comments [03:39] somerville32: 25 is already up [03:39] tonyyarusso, Do you know how to connect with gobby? [03:39] somerville32: yep [03:39] be right there [03:40] Ok [03:40] I'll brt there in a sec too === Sg| [i=Sg_@74.92.218.113] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Sg| is now known as MitchM [03:43] MitchM: Want to help with UWN 25? [03:43] hey elkbuntu -- my 64.187.64.115 server is down. I do not know the cause; but am trying to contact my BW provider to see what the problem is. [03:43] k [03:43] somerville32: Sure. [03:43] somerville32: How can I help? [03:44] there are a few things up [03:44] the largest is the feisty changes [03:44] MitchM: There are three sections we're finishing up. Mark's Letter, Kurdish incident, and Feisty Changes. [03:44] also quick stories about the devel list split, herd 1 and a call for installer develoeprs [03:46] Well I would help where needed. I however; not producing much type-written stuff in a while may prove to be too behind-the-times to be of much help. [03:47] If you guys have a specific article you want me to write I will try and get on top of it [03:48] MitchM: You could help out with Feisty changes. [03:49] MitchM, fyi I sent you an email this morning. Might check your junk mailbo [03:49] x [03:50] hm k :) [03:50] Rinchen -- dont see a single thing. [03:50] Send again> [03:50] ? [03:50] mitch (at) kci.net [03:50] yep [03:50] MitchM: if that feels too much like diving into the deep end, you can write a few lines about the herd 1 release and the devel mailing list split [03:52] MitchM, resent [03:52] Rinchen: k [03:52] Burgundavia: When are the writings due? and does someone of "editorial" stance look over the submissions? [03:52] MitchM: due right now [03:53] eidtorial stance? in what sense? [03:54] proof-reading [03:54] Rinchen: Got the e-mail [03:54] ah, right [03:54] thanks. Figured I wasn't whitelisted still :-) [03:54] our policy, as chief-editor-emeritus, is for you to start writing and we will work with you if you style needs tweaking [03:54] Burgundavia, is there a gobby session id I could join to help? [03:55] gobby is up [03:55] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies [03:55] somerville32: I'm on the phone, btw. Will start working when done with that. [03:56] Rinchen: I will have to fix ubuntu-rocks.org tomorrow. All my lovely ssh passwords/encrypted text lies on my 64.187.64.115 server. [03:57] Which is not talking to the world right now :) [03:57] anyway, I need to run to get dinner [03:57] back in about 30 minutes [03:57] MitchM, no worries. MDKE found it today and it's low priority. [03:58] Rinchen: K :) [03:59] Burgundavia: I believe I will have to pass up the opportunity to help tonight. I would really enjoy writing articles for the UWN if the opportunity arises again. [03:59] we are going to be here for a while [03:59] Gah [03:59] I can't login to the gobby session [03:59] ufl_ftw! right? [04:00] Burgundavia: At the moment though I think I have to get back to bed -- First day snowboarding yesterday; and I've slept 14 hours and still dont feel any better. [04:00] somerville32: @, not _ [04:01] Ah, yeah, sorry :] [04:01] RinchenL white-listed, take care :) [04:02] Mark posted an entire e-mail in UWN25? lol [04:03] nah, I did that [04:03] probably rip that out and put it on the help wiki [04:13] "Sony gets Ubuntu running a PS3" <-- So thats what the Developers are wasting their time with ;] [04:15] For the Mark's letter thing, maybe the best option would be to summarize what happens and then just provide those links? [04:16] That way people can get informed and we can stay unbiased [04:25] Did we ever report on the Novell + Microsoft dela? [04:25] *deal === somerville32 can't remember. [04:27] I don't think we really needed too - enough was said already [04:29] yep, that probably works [04:29] a few sentences on what happened and then the link [04:29] s === Rinchen agrees. === tonyyarusso reaquaints himself with the universe, since he's clearly off-kilter === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:42] also quick stories about the devel list split, herd 1 and a call for installer develoeprs <-- Did they happen during UWN25 or UWN26? [04:43] 25, because they happening during that timeframe [04:43] k [04:44] I didn't see any loco stories this week. Mel, did you get any? [04:44] eating dinner, write in a sec [04:55] tonyyarusso, How is it coming? [04:55] somerville32: not much yet [04:55] I'll get more productive as the night wears on [04:55] Alrighty [04:55] especially now that I realized we were talking about the next issue [04:56] Rinchen, when various latin americans stop talking to me, i might get around to using gobby [04:56] I think it would most likely best for me to get to bed [04:56] tonyyarusso: We're talking about UWN 25 right now [04:56] somerville32: I'm so confused....speak to me slowly [04:56] tonyyarusso, kk :) === tonyyarusso blames the solar flare [04:57] Tonight we're going to (try) and do the Fesity Changes section and the Kurdish section in UWN 25 and then release it [04:57] elkbuntu, lol [04:57] Rinchen, its hardly funny, i speak precisely 0 spanish : [04:57] Then, starting tomorrow, we'll get UWN 26 finished and released on the 20th [04:58] que? :-) [04:58] o.O [04:59] i still havent memorised that one [04:59] i can say gracias, that's about all [04:59] or even, muchos gracias [05:00] hehe I wonder, are we both working on the team south of the USA? [05:01] Rinchen, the venezuela and dominican republic teams are currently sapping my knowledge and time [05:01] elkbuntu: sparklehistory on Freenode speaks high school level Spanish. [05:02] elkbuntu, yep, same teams. see loco team chan [05:02] tonyyarusso, hehehe there's many bilingual people on freenode, i just fail to be one of them [05:02] elkbuntu: That's what "connections" are for ;) [05:03] tonyyarusso, the problem is not lack of understanding, as they are able to speak english, it's more that i keep throwing in things like 'bbs' and confusing the crap out of them [05:03] hence needing to be verbose with everything and repeat alot [05:03] elkbuntu: aaaah [05:03] elkbuntu, lol...you? talk a lot? lol === Rinchen going to get slapped for that one. [05:04] lol [05:04] nah, i'll find a less violent way to seek vengence [05:06] or at least more sneaky [05:06] indeed [05:07] which basically means, i cant be bothered : [05:11] JOEY!!! [05:12] Hiya Richie [05:12] we're talking shop over on locoteams [05:13] come join the fun! === elkbuntu points to this as a reason why she's not done UWN stuff [05:13] heh, marketing shmarketing..i just took a quick job with the Chicago Cubs as a "Business Aspects & Marketing" teams consultant [05:14] FREE TICKETS!!! [05:14] w00t! [05:14] oh ya baby...they better goto the world series this year :) [05:15] Not if I can help it! [05:16] hehe [05:16] gah === tonyyarusso doesn't really care, but roots for the Twins when feeling ambitious [05:16] I'm over in gobby working hard and you guys are fooling around === somerville32 gets out the whips. [05:16] hehe [05:17] we're not fooling 'round [05:17] Ah, yes... serious marketing biz - it can hard to tell the difference sometime ;] [05:17] lol [05:18] somerville32, oh, i thought you were calling loco stuff fooling [05:19] lol - well, loco stuff is crazy ;] [05:19] heh [05:19] somerville32: welcome to being chief editor [05:19] whoa, you stepped down Burgundavia? [05:20] nixternal: yep === somerville32 notes that elkbuntu told him that loco means crazy in some language and hence that was what we call an "inside joke". [05:20] Burgundavia, lol, we're making the transition right now? [05:20] somerville32, loco is crazy in spanish, iirc feminine form though [05:20] somerville32: less talking, more working on that UWN... Burgundavia and myself are going for a drink :) === somerville32 giggles. [05:21] loco == masculine && loca == feminine...que no? [05:22] i seriously can't remember the verbage...been 20 years almost since i took it in high school [05:22] loca sounds feminine to me [05:22] well, ricky martin say livin' la vida loca which is all feminine i believe [05:27] :] [05:28] nixternal: Will you recap heard 1 for me? [05:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd1/Kubuntu [05:29] I mean in UWN 25 ;] [05:32] what needs to be recapped? some packaging got done, it was released unbroken, this is what we have to look forward to? [05:32] i can do that im sure [05:32] it was also released a week late :) === somerville32 nods. [05:34] Nixternal: Can you complete that right now? [05:34] point me in the right direction [05:34] ooh..i need to install gobby really quick [05:35] ok, that is done [05:35] nixternal: Do you know how to connect? [05:35] yup [05:35] as long as i have the correct ip of course [05:43] what server are we connecting to? [05:44] see the wikipage of the editing policites page [05:45] tonyyarusso: there are no plans to replace rb with banshee [05:45] Burgundavia: Okay [06:10] alright, brief write up completed for the Herd 1 Recap [06:11] excellent [06:12] i wouldn't call it excellent, but it is definitely brief :) [06:25] had an interesting thought about the distrowatch data [06:25] and people's unhealthy obsession with it? [06:26] create a page that shows the data graphically, via svg icons of the distros, scaled based on their hit counter [06:26] So....no more Isle of Man on that map. [06:27] not geographically, visually [06:27] you would see a page with all the icons, ala this page": [06:27] ah [06:27] http://www.gridter.com/linx/linux.html [06:27] but scale the icons based on the distrowatch hits [06:28] or any data, really [06:29] so you'd have huge Ubuntu & Suse icons, and a bunch of 1pxX1px icons for most of the rest [06:29] basically [06:30] you could use svg animation to show you across a good timescale as well === jalrnc_ [n=joao@ip68-0-221-147.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:55] anybody still alive? [06:59] yeah [07:00] barely [07:00] Up, but still feeling not so good [07:01] ok, still plugging away, but pretty tired myself [07:03] This is disgusting. I slept 16 hrs and just got up around dinnertime. And want to go back to bed. [07:03] because you overslept [07:05] elkbuntu: No, I've been exhausted for weeks. [07:05] docs have any explanation? [07:05] ey? [07:07] elkbuntu: "No manual entry for life" [07:07] tonyyarusso, i mean docs as in medical professionals [07:09] elkbuntu: Ooooh, duh. I'm going to try to figure out how those work when I get back from break. No time between now and Wednesday when I go home. [07:11] I am going to copy back from gobby [07:12] Burgundavia, oh ok [07:13] i was just about to do the kurdish bit... are we going to fix up towsonu's mess and take it back to what was published, or leave it as it is now? [07:14] UWN is far from ready to be published [07:14] im talking about the mess he made of 24 [07:16] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2006-December/000890.html [07:17] rightg [07:17] what was sent via email was correct [07:17] he editing the wiki afterwards and then reverted it [07:17] yes [07:17] er no [07:17] sec [07:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue24?action=diff&rev2=39&rev1=38 [07:18] see that edit [07:18] and then see the next one === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:18] oh, wait, you are right [07:18] of course i am [07:19] I thought I had sent before he made that edit === Burgundavia sticks his tongue out at elkbuntu [07:19] no, you had not [07:19] hence, we now have egg on our faces over that [07:19] eh, people get things wrong all the time [07:19] we trust our writers [07:20] i cant even see how he perceived it as dropped, tbh [07:20] he got wrong information [07:20] thats not the point i was asking about though.. do we fix up the uwn24 in the wiki? [07:20] uwn24 has already been fixed int he wiki [07:21] if you notice [07:21] but it's not the same wording [07:21] as what was sent out [07:21] what im asking is... shoudl the wiki and the -news archive be identical or not [07:22] hmm, good point [07:23] i believe yes for major story changes [07:23] I have generally reverted changes, but in this case I think we should leave the original wording and then add an "update" big [07:23] k [07:24] bit, rather [07:27] What was the change? === tonyyarusso is too lazy to look [07:28] claiming charges were dropped, when they were not [07:29] Ah [07:30] ya, i remember seeing that and was like OH GOOD! [07:30] and then I seen the ML and was like, ok what went wrong === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-197-83.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:41] http://internetfreedomdisk.blogspot.com/ [09:45] Burgundavia: nice [09:45] why are you still up? [09:46] I woke up at 6:30 PM, remember? [09:46] "They don't look to alive to me, but the geeks have a habit of choosing bad names for things, sad but true." [09:46] right [09:46] so true... [09:47] Anyone else clicking "digg this story"? === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B26DC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === danbuch929 [n=emelia@70-39-156-18.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:58] Burgundavia? [10:58] Please check out wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite [10:58] suggestions welcome. === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-197-83.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:15] quinn storm is a guy right? [11:16] yes [11:16] poningru, why do you ask? [11:17] poningru: Male-to-Female Transgendered, actually. "woman trapped in a man's body" <--their words === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-227-24.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:56] jenda [11:56] yes? [11:56] i can't access the diy site [11:56] like there's an infinite loop on the server [11:57] [11:58] must be dan at work, then :) [12:02] indeed [12:02] so it doesn't work for you? [12:04] nope [12:05] cool [12:05] (i guess) [12:18] lol [12:38] hello y'all [12:39] Please check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing [12:39] just like jenda said, "suggestions welcome" :-) [12:51] danbuch929: looks like a great job to me :) [12:51] especially the "anything from 6.06 onward, or materials that are not release-specific." is very exact. [12:54] jenda: glad you approve :-D ... I have to say that my pinky finger was hovering over "Del" as I saw all of the Breezy material still up on DIYMarketing [12:55] meh [12:55] I guess people still use that thing ;) [12:55] ...and so it will stay :-) [12:55] We should archive it, but it doesn't have to be offered on a silver platter IMO ;) === danbuch929 began archiving stuff this morning - putting into bzr branch [12:59] dan... the site's broke [01:06] danbuch929^ [01:06] diy.devubuntu.com [01:13] yop - seems the RSS widget from Ubuntu Counter is breaking the page [01:13] can't get a result, so connection times out [01:14] grr [01:14] stupid lexmark x2250 [01:14] I'll have to peep at lastRSS.php to see if we can't trigger a workaround/fallback :-P [01:14] doesnt work in linux :( [01:14] poningru: do you have any water? [01:14] poningru: you probably just have to reset the circuits. [01:15] :D [01:18] rofl === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ulinskie [n=chatzill@203.111.235.144] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=menza@last.fm/subscriber/pdpc.student.MenZa] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:23] jenda: last prints running [02:27] 60 round ones, 60 long stickery ones, 36 kubuntu, 36 ubuntu === MenZa nods [02:30] woohoo ;) [02:31] ;) [02:31] That's what you requested, 'wannit? [02:31] I hope I can get rid of them too, some how. [02:31] "36 ubuntu" [02:31] Not sure if that's necessary ;) [02:31] :D [02:31] I'll send them anyway [02:31] So you can keep those, if can think of a use for them [02:31] If not - send, send. [02:31] Nope, you take 'em :) [02:32] I will :) === jenda goes back to studying. [02:32] 1/2 left [02:32] 300 years of history left ;) [02:33] :O [02:33] :d [02:33] Do let me know when you reach Winston. [02:33] Churchill, that is [02:34] In Czech Legal history? [02:34] 800-1400? [02:34] Not sure if his fingers were long enough ;) === jenda off [02:35] lol [02:35] Enjoy o.o [02:40] danbuch929, it wouldnt surprise me if i made explosive xml.. it's not a strong point of mine === jenda is at 1356... but has gotta go. Long live study in public transport :) [03:01] (1356 - when Prague became the capital of the Holy Roman Empire :) ) [03:04] jenda, what happened in 851? === danbuchWork [n=dbuch@ccs001.clevelandcorporate.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === beuno [n=martin@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jalrnc [n=joao@ip68-0-221-147.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:21] tsmithe: where? ;) [05:21] i was testing you on your history! [05:22] yes - but 851 where ;) [05:22] oh [05:22] anywhere [05:22] :) [05:22] jenda: Guernsey. [05:22] Never heard of it. [05:22] it's a channel island fool! [05:22] But I can tell you that around that time, the Czech state was forming from the wake of Great Moravia [05:24] did you cheat and just look that up? [05:24] No, I know that. [05:24] wow [05:24] Because that's my area ;) [05:24] (of expertise) [05:24] how long did it take you to learn? [05:25] that? [05:25] mm [05:25] well, all your czech history [05:26] that's one of the first things they teach you in elementary school history :) [05:26] ah [05:26] Well, i had to stop when I said I was at 1356 above [05:26] And I discovered the guy wanted us to know mainly 1400-1620 [05:26] so I knew none of that ;) [05:27] that's unfortunate [05:27] but it didn't really matter, because there was no exam - he just ticked it off in all of our indexes, for coming :) [05:27] good good [05:27] There were a grand total of 5 of us there. === jenda has to repair his backspace key, j'sec === tsmithe has to repair his esc key, but you don't see him complaining === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:30] meh, still won't work. [05:33] tsmithe: actually, after looking it up, at that time Great Moravia was still growing, and didn't even include the Czech duke-doms or whatever you call'ems yet. [05:34] The Bohemian or Czech state came out of that in 881 === MitchM [n=MitchM@63.78.48.5] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["No] [05:42] elkbuntu, Hardware failure (both powersupplies) were "exploded" on my server. They are working on replacing them now and it should be back up within the next hour or so. [05:43] jenda: last prints done, look sexcellent === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:44] MenZa: ooh, some sexcellent stickers? :) [05:44] mmm [05:44] :D [05:44] MitchM: ah, that's why :) [05:44] Yeah - apologies. [05:44] Looks like they had a nasty surge that blew up a few servers. [05:44] (mine included) [05:44] so they are replacing my power supplies for free. === MitchM curses at the wind [05:45] my poor uptime was so good too. [05:45] Oh alright ;) [05:46] so bear with and hopefully (if my MoBO didnt explode) it should be back up in the next hour or so [05:47] ok, cool ;) === jalrnc_ [n=joao@ip68-0-221-147.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:53] MitchM: yaaaaay! [05:53] Hurrah ! [05:54] :) [05:54] danbuch929: see comment above about exam... I don't see why i studied at all ;) [05:55] (there went a precious 90 minutes of my life that I could've spent doing staff duty or flaming useless n00bs under an assumed name on a different network...) === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:18] I need a volunteer! :D [06:20] jenda: hilarious.... you mean I could have bugged you _that much more_ ??? [06:22] somerville32, will it hurt? [06:22] beuno: Nope :) [06:22] I just need someone to help finish up UWN 25 [06:22] oh, sure [06:22] what can I help with? [06:22] There are two things: 1) Call for installer developers; and 2) Feisty changes === jenda can help with neither [06:23] danbuch929: yes - that much more :) [06:23] ok, what *specifically* do I need to do? [06:24] beuno: Well, lets get it on gobby [06:24] beuno: Do you know how to use gobby/do you have it installed? [06:24] Call for installer developers [06:24] tsmithe: You want to help too? [06:24] perhaps === beuno is sudo apt-get installing gobby [06:25] Feisty changes is a big job - we need as much help as we can get [06:26] has much been done since herd1? [06:26] Yes. [06:26] that was cjwatson's message, wasn't it... [06:27] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-December/023037.html [06:27] Yes. [06:27] 72.209.68.178 [06:27] password: ufl@ftw === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-227-24.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:28] I'm there [06:28] why not on the ubuntu server! [06:28] i'm there! [06:39] beuno: I take it you're busy helping cody? :-) [06:39] I can multitask sometimes [06:39] :-P I sure can't ... can you talk about the diy/wordpress stuff? [06:39] sure [06:40] well === danbuchWork prods jenda [06:40] from what I talked with Jenda yesterday, all howtos will be stored in the wiki [06:40] right [06:40] so, that really takes away the main reason for wordpress [06:40] as redundancy == bad [06:41] I didn't think so, really [06:41] yes? [06:41] can we still use wp for a lot of the categorization, sorting, etc.? [06:41] well, the thing is I think it's not worth the bloat just for that [06:41] having the HOWTO's reside on the wiki doesn't necessarily make them well-organized [06:41] beuno: gotcha [06:41] I think it's easier/faster/better to make a custom mysql + php script [06:42] I'm happy with that [06:42] I just don't have the mysql/php chops to do it ;-) [06:42] that's not a problem [06:42] I get along very well with both [06:43] I'll get t done [06:43] and cook up some admin control panel to administrate them [06:43] are there some code libraries you can point me to? anywhere I can peek in at the code so it isn't just you workin' on it? :-D [06:43] and instead of pasting the actual howto, you just paste in the URL to the wiki [06:44] beuno: that's precisely what we need to do [06:44] rather than fatten diy with copies, we're just going to fill it with URL's [06:44] good, then I think wp is gone [06:44] hehe [06:44] I don't think it's that much trouble [06:45] as soon as I can access the FTP I'l download and get working [06:45] should be done in a day or so [06:45] then you can poke all you want :-D [06:45] okie doke! [06:45] jenda: you catch all that? [06:46] I'm trying [06:46] [06:46] in brief: bye-bye wordpress, hello less code [06:46] I'd like to have the howtos on the wiki, but organised on our site. [06:47] $newapproach == $dan[happy] === danbuchWork is a hashtable [06:48] jenda: precisely - we're essentially turning diy into a dedicated index for all things Marketing from across the Ubuntu web universe [06:48] sorta like Digg for DIY Marketing (?) [06:49] yeap [06:49] that's it [06:49] and I'll add a few things like "sort by budget" [06:49] and *stuff* [06:49] cool :) [06:49] my thinking precisely. [06:49] i think. [06:50] :) [06:51] dan likes a lot [06:52] good [06:52] seems "wordpress" scared both of you off [06:52] lol [06:52] awwwwww... certainly not :-) [06:53] we just didn't want to load up DIY with a bunch of content that really already has a home [06:55] beuno: I'm not scared. [06:55] My courage exists through ignorance. [06:55] jenda: Boo! [06:55] I have no clue about it ;) [06:58] ok [06:58] well [06:58] I'll try to get in the ftp [06:58] if not [06:58] dan, can you send me a zip with the latest? [06:58] will do - let me know if you can't get in first [06:58] :-) [06:58] it's BIG === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:00] just the diy website [07:00] mainly PHPs [07:00] not ALL of it [07:00] gotcha [07:00] lemme know if the ftp don't work - I know MitchM is busy getting the server back up [07:00] wow === jenda welcomes ubotu back [07:01] ok ok [07:21] Jenda: Come help :P [07:22] Feisty changes is a monster of a job === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:22] somerville32: sorry, no help from me. [07:23] :( [07:32] somerville32: can you post the IP for gobby again? [07:32] 72.209.68.178 [07:33] :-( my worky ISA server don't like [07:33] sorry - count me out, I guess... [07:34] evening [07:37] juliux: Up for helping out with UWN 25? [07:38] somerville32, today? [07:38] Yes [07:38] Please [07:38] :D [07:38] somerville32, my internet connection is to slow for gobby:( and i was 9hrs at university [07:38] Go recruit people to help then ;] [07:39] somerville32, next time i can try it [07:39] juliux: don't feel obliged ;) === jenda slacks === jenda demoralizes === jenda runs away from somerville32 [07:39] @lart jeda [07:40] ;] [07:40] jenda, the problem is in the evening i have ping times aroun 5000ms so gobby is not relay fun [07:41] hehe ;) [07:41] indeed. [07:42] relay fun? [07:42] realy sorry === juliux needs a bear [07:42] beer [07:42] a bear? [07:42] lmao [07:42] that might be painfuk [07:42] that might be painful === Admiral_Chicago hands juliux a Black Bear [07:42] not painfuk [07:42] Admiral_Chicago, thxs [07:42] a bear? [07:42] do you really want a bear? [07:42] tsmithe, beer;) [07:42] tsmithe, no [07:42] he gave you a bear [07:43] that's one thing I don't need is a beer [07:43] and why is that? [07:43] i had my fill last night. [07:43] :) [07:43] Admin_Chicago: Login! We need more hands! : === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === topyli [n=topyli@unaffiliated/topyli] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:44] somerville32, give me the ip, i will try it [07:44] apparently I feel asleep chatting... [07:44] somerville32: i would [07:44] 72.209.68.178 [07:44] juliux: We use gobby [07:44] however I have my calculus final right now [07:44] somerville32, thxs [07:44] somerville32: what does helping mean? [07:44] jrib: Writing ;] [07:45] We're currently doing Feisty changes [07:45] isn't the UWN about news? i have no idea what's happening [07:45] basically looking for changelogs [07:45] it's ok [07:45] the whole point is you find out [07:45] and making them human-friendly [07:45] it takes for ever [07:45] somerville32, it's not working [07:45] and beuno i thought you were gone! get back here now [07:45] somerville32: I'll take a look when I get back [07:45] somerville32, which port ? [07:46] gobby port [07:46] ;) [07:47] tsmithe, and that is which port? [07:47] hang on [07:47] juliux: What version of Gobby are you using? [07:47] 6522 [07:47] somerville32, 0.4.1-ubuntu1 [07:47] k [07:47] there's a password [07:48] i didn't get a response from the server:( [07:48] host? [07:48] not is working [07:48] password? [07:49] somerville32: theoretically, i'd like to help but can't promise when i'm sick [07:50] somerville32, password pls;) [07:50] what's to it when i'm back in business? follow happenings? should i be running feisty? [07:50] ufl@ftw [07:57] danbuchWork, jenda, elkbuntu: Server should be back up in a few minutes here. They have to order in some new power supplies; so I will probably schedule downtime for the server Sunday for about 15-30 minutes for them to replace the new parts. [07:57] cool [07:58] :) [08:04] MitchM: gotcha - thank you!!! === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:38] ... slow punks. I tell you what. [08:50] Burgwork: ping [08:50] somerville32: pong [08:50] burgwork: I'm a bit concerned about taking up the editor-in-chief position. Maybe we should share it? [08:51] sure [08:51] Awesome. [08:51] you get to do the whipping and I will drink the gin and tonic and get the credit [08:51] haha [08:51] [08:52] Feisty Changes has made a lot of progress this morning [08:53] where? gobby? [08:53] Yup. [08:54] if you are editing in gobby, make certain you edit the wiki page to inidicate that [08:58] k [08:59] that means removing the content from the wiki page and placing a note in its place [09:03] k [09:05] MitchM: Want to come help out with UWN 25? [09:09] Burgwork: can you have a look at DIF [09:09] argh [09:09] the diff> [09:09] DIYWebsite [09:09] not yet, at work [09:09] ok === jenda dinner === MenZa lunch === MenZa breakfast === MenZa snack [09:10] we need more help === MenZa helps tsmithe [09:10] there are toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [09:10] ooooooooooooooooooooo [09:10] many packages [09:11] and the number of "o"s there is not even close to being proportional to the amount of work lef [09:11] and the number of "o"s there is not even close to being proportional to the amount of work left === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B26DC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.163.65] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:25] cellofellow, Want to help with UWN 25? [09:26] Sure. What sort of thing did you have in mind? [09:26] Do you have gobby? [09:27] gobby? [09:28] is that a CMS system or something? [09:29] gobby is a collabortaive editor [09:29] in the repos? [09:30] yep, but you need a non repo version if you run 6.06 [09:30] Edgy here :) [09:30] sudo apt-get install gobby [09:30] Connect to: [09:30] 72.209.68.178 [09:30] password: ufl@ftw [09:31] k [09:35] cellofellow: How is it coming? [09:36] ok. it just finished installing [09:38] can I tell gobby to forget about ZeroConf? [09:42] Just click ok [09:42] yeah, I know, it's just annoying [09:43] whhat do I do now? click UWN 25 in the Document List? [09:43] yep [09:43] Wow.. [09:44] We're almost done feisty changes === somerville32 pants. [09:44] Awesome work tsmithe and beuno!! [09:44] ;D [09:44] :) [09:44] you're just saying that to get me to do more packaged [09:44] hehehe [09:44] packages [09:46] hehe - is it working? [09:46] yes :( [09:47] :D [10:01] somerville32: i'm back, i can help with UWN now [10:01] port, host etc? [10:01] i got the pw [10:01] 72.209.68.178 === StikkitJim [n=James@dsl-217-155-255-54.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:27] Only 22 more packages to go in Feisty changes! :D [10:27] StikkitJim, Want to help? [10:31] just curious, there's still five more months till Feisty is released. Is the Sid repo already frozen? [10:33] or forked? or whatever it's called. === Red_HerrIng [n=rj@c-67-162-70-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:37] supposed to be compete on the 21st === Red_HerrIng peeks in [10:38] here's the feisty development ical: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/FeistyReleaseSchedule.ics [10:42] elkbuntu, Feisty changes are almost done. When will you be able to write the Kurdish article? === beuno was thinking about translating the UWN to spanish, but is unsure now... === jenda peeks in too [10:50] hello Red_HerrIng [10:52] yo [10:52] jenda: hrm.... have i talked to you before? [10:52] Red_HerrIng: no [10:52] but I felt someone should greet you ;) [10:52] i see. [10:52] well [10:52] Hi. === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:14] elkbuntu, ping ping ping [11:15] does it make sense to translate the UWN? [11:16] I can probably pitch in a bit, and fork over some work to the Argentina LoCo [11:16] I really should get into programming the DIY website [11:17] beuno: We already have some folks working on French, so if you're offering to step up to the plate for Spanish that's awesome. [11:18] I guess I can give it a shot, yes [11:18] just can't do it on my own without getting behind on the webpage [11:19] beuno: Right. We need lots of people to spread the work around across the board. [11:19] how can I setup a Gobby server so we can do it there? [11:19] somerville32: is morning there [11:19] or is the current one fine to spread around? [11:19] beuno: We already have a gobby server up ;) [11:19] it's alright to give out the password? [11:19] yep [11:20] it is listed on a public wiki page [11:20] beuno: The French ones are on there, so presumably yours will be fine. (It's on a public wiki - the pw) [11:20] the password is mostly to slow down the casual drive by [11:20] beuno: Let somerville32 know you're doing it, so he's in the loop [11:20] somerville32, ping (read above) === somerville32 is going to go eat. [11:21] Burgwork: When do you get off work? [11:21] in about 3 hours, but I am busy tonight [11:21] UWN 25 is going to be ready to be released tonight [11:21] Feisty Changes are done === somerville32 is going to go eat. [11:22] good luck with that pizza [11:29] somerville32, ring ring [11:30] do we want a kde category in the changes? [11:30] it would be bigger than the xfce category === Rinchen [n=Rinchen@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MitchM_ [n=MitchM@63.78.48.5] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:36] Hello Rinchen :) [11:36] How's life treating you? [11:37] Very good this week. I revolted and told work I'm taking this week and next off. Tired of the 80 - 90 hour work weeks and all the travel. [11:37] It's like this because they didn't get me help. Well, I have help now. :-) [11:38] How's life treating you Jenda? [11:38] I've been so busy I haven't been around much. [11:38] I am just on my way to get busy these coming months... [11:39] 80-90 hr weeks/ [11:39] phew [11:39] that's not right. [11:39] Yes, sucketh big time [11:39] What job is that? [11:39] and I"m salaried so no extra pay [11:40] I work for IBM. I'm a project manager and am currently in charge of a large client's business continuity ...aka... if one of their data center's blow up, I need to ensure they keep working. [11:41] Not bad sounding... [11:42] My life is about to enter the semestral exam period, so it's rather cruel :) [11:42] I manage about 12 people directly and 250 who take business direction from me [11:42] plus I manage the client interface [11:42] Wow! [11:42] it's actually a fun job [11:42] nice ;) [11:43] What OS do they use? [11:43] [11:43] mix :-) XP, Red Hat, AIX, Solaris [11:43] hehe [11:43] better than nothing. [11:43] ;) [11:43] true. [11:44] BTW, as a reward for passing (or failing) the exams, I'm going on a three week long trip to India. [11:44] sounds like a very stress-inducing job ;D === beuno is very nosy [11:44] beuno, yes, just a *twitch* little strees *twitch* [11:44] hehe === MitchM_ is now known as MitchM [11:46] I manage half a dozen servers and some days explode into million of pieces, so I can't imagine your job [11:48] somerville32, you left === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:50] cody? [11:50] somerville32? [11:51] Hi [11:51] hi [11:51] beuno, it's the same for me expect it's the people that explode not the servers :-) [11:52] yeah, I missed the "I" somewhere in there [11:52] "I" explode into pieces [11:52] it's pretty fun to watch I've been told === Rinchen laughs. [11:55] beuno, jenda: we'll talk more tomorrow 'bout diy, eh? [11:56] yeap, I've been with the UWN all day === jenda will try [11:56] but I'll get the base MySQL tables setup today [11:56] beuno: so I've read ;-) [11:56] and *maybe* some scripting [11:56] excellent! [11:56] talk to you both tomorrow - I'm out of here :-) [11:56] (still can't connect to diy server) [11:57] how bout that zip before leaving? [11:57] beuno: (so I saw... :-( ) [11:57] beuno: I'll have to send it from home when I get there [11:57] ok, thanks! [11:57] I don't have a copy of the branch at work (yet) :-) [11:57] np [11:57] later all! === danbuchWork [n=dbuch@ccs001.clevelandcorporate.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [11:57] MitchM, is your server still down? [11:58] MitchM, I know you had some issues yesterday. [11:58] Rinchen, Indeed it is. They're giving me the run around. They dont have the specific power supply for my server. [11:58] oh, ok [11:58] I told them to just put one in and get it online until they can get the right part... [11:58] can I get a ping when it's up? [11:59] Sure. I'll turn on ICMP when it comes online :) [11:59] MitchM, thanks. [11:59] This has been one nightmare of a tech call. [11:59] Sorry for the down-time guys [11:59] cest la vie, mitch [11:59] I still have some capacity at Dreamhost so if you are interested in doing a mirror for emergencies then we can probably arrange that. [12:00] ;) [12:00] np, it happens [12:00] I have a couple of dedicated servers with spare space/bandwidth to [12:00] so I can help woth mirroring too [12:03] MitchM, worst case, I have about 20gig left on my home sever. It's on a T1 so it won't handle a lot of load but it works [12:03] eh -- well; *smile* [12:03] MitchM, I can hook up a 30g usb drive to and hope it doesn't fry :-) [12:04] It gets quite a bit of traffic actually [12:04] UbuntuCounter.org alone gets approx. 3 gig's a month of in/out [12:04] I've got 2 servers hooked up on peer1 [12:04] 10mbit [12:04] about 60gb free on each [12:04] It _should_ be up in any moment... [12:04] so they say. [12:05] lol. I wish I could take the OC43 I have a work and press it into use but I can't. [12:05] MPLS is a wonderful thing you know... [12:05] meh -- here at work we just got dual oc192's [12:05] i'd love to snag a little but of that for sure. [12:05] bit* [12:06] UWN 25 is done === MitchM cheers [12:06] congrats all who worked on it [12:06] and not all who didn't [12:06] (booo hiss) [12:06] :D === MitchM cowers [12:07] you promise to help tomorrow on uwn 26? [12:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue25 [12:07] someone change the topic === ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:tsmithe] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | UWN 225 === ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:tsmithe] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | UWN 25 === ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:tsmithe] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | UWN 25 is out [12:08] wow i can do it! === topyli [n=topyli@unaffiliated/topyli] has left #ubuntu-marketing []