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matthew_local, try sudo apt-get install -reinstall ubuntu-desktop12:16
matthew_local, or maybe gdm12:16
localok12:16
towyncin process of finding wacom =) one sec12:16
natic`kubuntuhi guys...12:16
matthew_towync, ok...12:16
matthew_natic`kubuntu, what's up?12:16
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natic`kubuntuhm... i am wondering what beryl is, and if thats what i want12:16
natic`kubuntu:12:16
natic`kubuntui only know this xgl thing12:17
matthew_!beryl | natic`kubuntu12:17
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ubotunatic`kubuntu: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl12:17
natic`kubuntuyeah....12:17
natic`kubuntui am reading12:17
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Ace2016chmod 777 allows everyone to write to a file right?12:19
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natic`kubuntuyep12:19
matthew_Ace2016, chmod 777 allows everyone to execute, write, and read the file12:19
Ace2016thanks12:20
londo4Anyone Can Help me?. myn kubuntu start only until logon srceen when I hit the password it come back to logon screen12:20
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towycnmatthew hi, i just pasted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37831/12:23
londo4I can't login to Kubuntu with my own username & correct password. I've tried many times, but not successful. Please help me.12:23
fenerbahchehi i have vmware under /var.  i am gonna create new partition and i will mount /home to the new partitions, i have already two guest os in vmware, what happens if i cut vmware and paste to the new partitons, will it still work ?12:23
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towycnoops, was it matthew_, hi i just pasted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37831/12:23
fenerbahchelondo4: it is like nightmare12:23
fenerbahchelondo4: i had it too, solved it, but i still dont know how i did it12:23
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londo4fenerbahche: big problem man12:24
murchadh_bhabalondo4, What does your login screen look like? A terminal (black with white writing) or graphical looking?12:24
londo4fenerbahche: graphical looking12:24
matthew_towycn, ok, you need to comment out the Section "InputDevice" sections that relate to wacom input stuff...basically, just what you already commented out, but comment out the whole section.12:24
BluesKajwell , i tried to run the install.sh script as root for devede27 , but it's not working...I did it successfully on older vers before but i've forgotten what i did12:24
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fenerbahchelondo4: there is menu, choose kde again try12:24
londo4fenerbahche: when I hit the password it return to logo screen again12:25
fenerbahchelondo4: i mean in login screen12:25
towycnmatthew_ ok, one sec =) thx12:25
matthew_towycn, np12:25
murchadh_bhabalondo4, Type alt+F1, report back12:25
londo4fenerbahche: yes login screen12:26
matthew_towycn, when you get done, paste it to pastebin again and...well, you know12:26
fenerbahchelondo4: in login screen ,  choose menu and choose kde, than try pls12:26
towycnmatthew_  cool, just double checking, should i comment out line 79 all the way to line 11712:26
towycnthe site was at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37831/12:27
matthew_lemme look12:27
BluesKajmurchadh_bhaba, well , i tried to run the install.sh script as root for devede27 , but it's not working...I did it successfully on older vers before but i've forgotten what i did12:27
towycnmatthew_ thx12:27
londo4fenerbahche: ok, i`ll try12:27
matthew_towycn, no prob, but I gotta go do something, be back in 512:27
murchadh_bhabaBluesKaj, What exactly are you doing, and from where?12:28
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towycnmatthew_ cool =)12:29
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BluesKajmurchadh_bhaba, I'm trying to install devede27 in the shell as root ..it says to run the "install.sh" script as root12:30
fenerbahchelondo4: tried ?12:30
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towycnmatthew_ k i just did a new paste of the changed xorg.conf, i put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37834/  for when you get back, thx alot =)12:31
londo4fenerbahche: i have to shutdown this system12:31
fenerbahchelondo4: ohh i see12:32
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schlupphi, somebody has second and could provide me some help with a monitor setting?12:32
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murchadh_bhabaBluesKaj, So you are using sudo or you are root?12:33
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BluesKaji tried both sudo and sudo su , murchadh_bhaba12:34
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schluppsomebody knows why there are differend settings for monitor for different users with the same xorg.conf (one user can use the twinview correctly, the other gets one black monitor after loggin in)12:35
alexicon!dvd12:36
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:36
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matthew_towycn, I'm still here, but still unavailable12:36
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towycnmatthew_ yeah np, take your time, i'm not doing much besides listening to ipod/reading =)12:36
towycnmatthew_ i've pretty much given up on beryl + kxdocker lol i'm just grateful someone might know =)12:37
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BluesKajhow do I run an "install.sh" script as root ?12:40
LeeJunFanberyl rocks. I've been running it for well, since it was conceived from compiz, and ran compiz before that.12:40
TheDebuggersudo sh install.sh ?12:40
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BluesKajTheDebugger, where does the app name go ?12:42
goodthingi have kubuntu installed, but the media folder where kubuntu should be installed is ehm, empty (no, i am not joking)12:42
goodthingthis appears to be a only a problem with a 750GB hard disk12:43
goodthingcan anyone help me with that?12:43
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LeeJunFangoodthing: define "media folder"... do you mean /media?12:44
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goodthingLeeJunFan: yes12:44
goodthingi mean /media/sda1 and /media/sda212:45
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goodthingsda1 should have my /home folder and sda2 the OS12:45
alexiconanyone know a good program for capturing dvd audio12:45
goodthingneither of bot are there12:45
goodthing*both12:45
LeeJunFangoodthing: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab ?12:45
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goodthingthe only folder in those partitions is "lost+found"12:46
LeeJunFan!pastebin | goodthing12:46
ubotugoodthing: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:46
goodthingsure12:46
murchadh_bhabagoodthing, There isn't supposed to nbe anything in /media? Is that what you're saying?12:47
alexicon!wifi12:47
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:47
goodthingmurchadh_bhaba: no the other way arround12:47
goodthingLeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37837/12:47
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goodthingi have not changed anything is fstab, system is brand new12:48
goodthingjust as the edgy installation12:48
LeeJunFangoodthing, murchadh_bhaba: he means they show empty on there, they don't seem to be mounted.12:48
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LeeJunFangoodthing: perhaps if you change defaults to defaults,auto  - auto is to automount on boot.12:49
goodthingLeeJunFan: well, kde shows me at boot that /dev/hda is getting added on /media...12:49
murchadh_bhabagoodthing, At a shell, type mount and report back on the output.12:49
sungamEvery time I reboot my computer, I have to do a 'sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia' to get it to load the latest drivers... any suggestions on how I can get it to load them from the get go?12:49
murchadh_bhabagoodthing, Should be straightforward enough get you sorted.12:50
goodthingbut shouldn't each partition be dealth as a separate dev/location?12:50
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goodthinghehe, cool :)12:50
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bgsteffensi just woke up to my drive recovery finished12:51
bgsteffens41 thousand files without names! lol12:51
murchadh_bhabagoodthing, LeeJunFan from what he reports, there aren't even mount points/directories there yet.12:51
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LeeJunFangoodthing: you've got 3 paritions, sda2 is your root where your system is actually installed to and that won't show on /media/sda2 because it's mounted at /12:51
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goodthingLeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37838/12:51
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goodthingyep, /dev/sda2 if for kubuntu, /dev/sda1 for /home12:52
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goodthingand /dev/sda5 for dump other files12:53
LeeJunFangoodthing: ah, if you want sda1 for home it's not setup that way.12:53
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LeeJunFangoodthing: you'll need to mount sda1 somewhere other than /home, copy what's in home now to sda1, then mount sda1 to home.12:54
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misaelhow can i install a .bin file (it12:54
goodthingLeeJunFan: but why is my system running from it, i can even user /home/ with all files there...12:54
mrTr0utfor some reason when I restarted my pc, kubuntu started in terminal mode instead of KDE, Xserver is running but i try to switch over with ctrl-alt-f7 there's nothing but a black screen - like another terminal12:55
LeeJunFangoodthing: lets start by getting /dev/sda1 mounted somewhere. try running sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /media/sda112:55
LeeJunFangoodthing: because /home is at the moment, on your sda2 drive.12:55
goodthingi see :)12:55
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misaelhow can i install a .bin file (it's located at desktop)12:56
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misaelits steam linux dedicated server12:56
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hazardmisael do you know what the bin file is? like a macbinary compressed file? or a .bin as in .bin/cue?12:56
LeeJunFanmisael: you need to change the permissions on it to make it executable, then run it. best bet is to run it from a shell so open konsole chmod +x [filename]  then ./[filename] 12:56
misaelits a .bin12:56
bgsteffensis there a way to mount a network shared drive into my root filesystem somehwere?12:57
hazardbgsteffens: yes, with root access or sudo12:57
hazard(or setup autofs to do it)12:57
LeeJunFangoodthing: brb12:57
murchadh_bhababgsteffens, I have a /DATA directory on which I mount all my shares.12:58
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bgsteffenswould it look something like sudo mount smb://etcetcetc /media/something ?12:58
goodthingLeeJunFan: mounting /dev/sda1 gives me nothing, same lost+found folder12:58
hazardI think sudo mount -t smbfs -o [some stuff for username/password I forget what exactly]  //system/share /path/to/mount/folder12:59
Cheza-chanim having some problems connecting to my home wireless network on edgy. it connected to this same network just fine on dapper12:59
goodthingLeeJunFan: mounting /dev/sda2 instead gives me the OS, which seems correct12:59
hazardHOWEVER, i'd setup autofs to do it for you (provided you don't mind having the password in plain text in a config file somewhere)12:59
hazard*cricket*01:00
mrTr0utanyone know? :/01:00
hazardOh, mrTrout, your Xserver probably isn't starting on its own.01:01
misaeli stiil need help with the hlsdupdatetool.bin file in my desktop01:01
misaeli dont know how to run it01:01
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mrTr0utit is started, I started it..i stopped it, restarted it01:01
mrTr0utnothing01:01
Cheza-chanit is a weird problem i can select the wireless and enable it in 'networking' but in network tools and system settings->network settings the wireless isnt there01:01
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hazardhuh...maybe xorg unconfigured itself?01:02
Cheza-chanmisael a .bin is a binary file means you can run it as is. you maybe have to chmod +x it first01:02
goodthingmrTr0ut: might a a bad update from nvidia beta i think. I think i have read something about that on ubuntuforums. So you use nvidia videocard beta?01:02
natic`kubuntuheyo01:02
natic`kubuntuhowto enable aixgl in edgy???01:02
mrTr0utwell I recently installed nvidia drivers before the restart, I don01:03
mrTr0utI don't think it was beta though01:03
misaelhow i do that?01:03
hazardrelated to xserver, is it possible to get the tv card function working on a rage128AIW?01:03
LeeJunFangoodthing: yeah, the empty one with the lost and found is where you want to copy everything that's in /home to.01:03
hazardI don't care about the cable tuner, just the on screen display of the TV-in on the card.01:03
Cheza-chanmisael all you have to do is open a console and cd ~/Desktop then chmod +x <filename>01:03
misaelok in <filename> i write hlsdupdatetool.bin or with out the .bin?01:04
LeeJunFangoodthing: so sudo cp -va /home/. /media/sda1/. will get your stuff copying over to /dev/sda1 which we will make your new /home when it's done.01:04
Cheza-chanwith the .bin01:04
misaelok thanks01:04
hazardif you try it one way, and it yells at you, then its the other.01:04
misaelam going to try01:04
Cheza-chanthe +x flag says 'give this file execute rights'01:05
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bgsteffenssudo mount -t smbfs smb://briansecondary/Recover /media/recover...returns....mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on smb://briansecondary/Recover,01:06
goodthingLeeJunFan: to be honest, that sounds scary to me :p01:06
LeeJunFangoodthing: after cp is done copying edit /etc/fstab, change /media/sda1 to /home01:06
hazardbgsteffens: you don't need the smb: before the //01:07
LeeJunFangoodthing: all we are doing at this point is backing up what's in your current /home to your other partition with cp.01:07
goodthingk01:07
hazardand you need a -o password=xyz,username=hgj in there somewhere01:07
bgsteffensi don't know what the un/pw would be o.O01:07
bgsteffensit's completely unprotected01:08
LeeJunFangoodthing: changing the fstab entry tells it to mount /dev/sda1 to /home instead of /media/sda1 when it get's remounted.01:08
hazardbgsteffens: XPHome?01:08
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goodthingLeeJunFan: i know, i am just checking the current mounts so i can not make mistakes01:08
mrTr0utok I reinstalled the nvidia drivers and everything seems to work fine now01:08
bgsteffenshazard: it's XPPro, shared completely open to anything01:08
hazardbecause if it is, sometimes it won't let you connect unless you GIVE it some bogus username/password01:08
snowrichardhello01:08
bgsteffensreally rofl01:09
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hazardHuh, it might do the same thing, (but I don't think so) the only thing that might be a problem then is that the smb mounter might try to wait for a password or something silly like that01:09
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alexiconhrmmm01:09
goodthingLeeJunFan: and sda1 already seems mounted on /media/sda101:10
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alexiconkubuntu seems to have an issue with ! being in wifi passwords........01:10
bgsteffenshm it's still giving me that useless error message that basically says 'something went wrong but i don't know what it is'01:10
alexiconiwconfig wlan0 key restricted s:pass!word doesnt work01:10
alexiconit thinks !word is a new command or something01:10
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snowrichardkubuntu x86_64 works great on my E-machines t3508.01:11
yorikk! is a special character in the shell01:11
yorikktry escaping it01:11
psyoptikanyone know the status on fixing the kdar package dependencies?01:11
alexiconthanks yorikk01:11
LeeJunFangoodthing: yes, it needs to be there until we are done copying the contents of /home to it.01:12
hazardwell, after I've annihilated any hope of me ever getting my old build of mplayer working again, ever support library I've tried to complie so far has failed for obscure reasons.01:12
hazardSigh, I hate this game.01:12
murchadh_bhababgsteffens, Check that smbclient is installed.01:12
hazardsmbclinet, and there's something else that helps...not samba...smbmount? something like that I think01:13
goodthingLeeJunFan: ok, thanks. :) It seems to take some time01:13
alexiconnice wintick worked cheers01:13
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goodthingalthought i have one of the fastest desktop disks currently...01:13
bgsteffenshazard: smbclient is01:13
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LeeJunFangoodthing: yeah, problem is though that you are copying from and to the same drive so the head is busy tracking between the 2 paritions.01:14
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hazardThere's another package though, smbmount or smbfs or something like that01:14
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LeeJunFangoodthing: so 750G eh? how will you ever live with such constraints? :p01:14
LeeJunFan!smbfs01:15
ubotusmbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB01:15
hazardyup, that'd be the one I'm thinking of :P01:15
LeeJunFanyou need smbfs to mount samba shares.01:15
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goodthingLeeJunFan: give me two months :p01:15
LeeJunFansmbclient is sufficient for browsing them, but to actually mount them you need smbfs.01:15
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hazardI hate SDL. There's nothing 'simple' or 'direct' about getting it to work.01:16
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hazard(there are however, many layers of sanity)01:16
goodthingLeeJunFan: i already have two 300GB disks, but the system does not boot when i put those two on SATA2 and SATA2 ports on motherbord. Two disks seems to be the max01:16
murphi seem to have edited my xorg.conf and now it boots to a blank screen .. no consoles either :/01:16
murphhelp?01:17
goodthing*SATA2 and SATA301:17
murphi'm booted off the install cd atm01:17
lombra_good night01:17
hazardmaybe one of the drives is setup wrong for the satacontroller?01:17
BluesKajmurph, no prompt?01:17
goodthingLeeJunFan: all is done now01:17
murphrescue option broken as well01:17
murphit boots then nada01:17
hazarddo you remember what you changed?01:18
murphyes01:18
murphbut i can't seem to get to the file01:18
hazardso..why don't you unchange it?01:18
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murph^01:18
hazarddid you mount the drive?01:18
murphnope01:18
hazardthat would pose a problem wouldn't it?01:18
murphnot sure how to01:18
LeeJunFangoodthing: hehe, playing with my dog with the laser pointer to pass time :)01:19
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hazardmkdir /tmp/hda && mount /dev/hda[x]  (where [x]  is the root partiton of your drive, probably either a 1 or a 2, might be a 3 thouh)01:19
LeeJunFangoodthing: okay, now change /etc/fstab file so /media/sda1 is /home01:19
murphtnx hazard :)01:19
goodthingLeeJunFan: yeah, can i do that without umounting the location?01:19
LeeJunFangoodthing: sudo nano /etc/fstab or kdesu kate /etc/fstab if you prefer a gui.01:19
bgsteffenshazard: it works, i love you;P01:20
Cheza-chanso is it a problem if network settings lists wlon0 as a 'wired connection'?01:20
goodthingnope, vim for me, kate tends to wipe the wipe...01:20
LeeJunFangoodthing: yes, that won't mount it yet, just tells it that it should be mounted there next time.01:20
Cheza-chanwlan*01:20
goodthing*file01:20
goodthingLeeJunFan:  ok01:20
hazardgood bgsteffens, if you might be interesetd in setting up autofs to do it for you (so you don't need to sudo if you want to use it again)01:20
hazardCheza-chan: I woudln't think so...01:21
bgsteffenshazard: ok thank you01:21
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goodthingLeeJunFan: done. What's next? :)01:21
natic`kubuntui can't find the package compiz-kde01:21
natic`kubuntui have activated the ubuntu backports01:21
natic`kubuntubut i still can't find it01:21
LeeJunFangoodthing: make sure /media/sda1 looks like your /home - ie. make sure you see your users home dir /media/sda1 and it looks like everything is there okay.01:22
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PerseidHi all. I'm trying to get grub to boot Windows XP with no success. It says it's an unknown partition, lists the boot commands and locks up.01:22
hazardwindows or grub?01:22
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natic`kubuntuyou need a chainloader01:22
LeeJunFangoodthing: /media/sda1 should not have a dir named home in it, but should have your username dir in it.01:22
murphubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /tmp/hda && mount /dev/hda301:22
murphmount: can't find /dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:22
LeeJunFanamong any other users you've added.01:22
murph01:22
murphubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /tmp/hda && mount /dev/hda301:23
murphmount: can't find /dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:23
murphsorry01:23
goodthingLeeJunFan: roger, it contains my weird username01:23
hazardmurph....oh right.01:23
Perseidroot (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 are the 3 lines in menu.lst01:23
misaelhow do i run a .bin file? what do i write in the konsole?01:23
hazardtry the same thing but without the number at the end01:23
LjLmisael: ./filename - you might need to "chmod +x" it (i.e. make it executable)01:23
Cheza-chanmisael ./<file>01:23
LjLmisael: perhaps you could find a proper package instead of the .bin, though?01:24
hazardOH, WAIT, no I'm just stupid,01:24
Perseidhazard: You mean me? chainloader not chainloader +1?01:24
unix_infideluhhh, arent .bin .cue pairs images?01:24
LeeJunFangoodthing: okay, next time you reboot it should mount sda1 as /home. however at the moment your sda2 still has all that crap you just copied, so now that we've verified sda1 has your stuff in it we need to remove it from your current /home01:24
hazardI was talking to murph01:24
murphubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda01:24
murphmount: can't find /dev/hda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:24
Perseidok. heh. :)01:24
LjLunix_infidel: yeah, can also be that...01:24
natic`kubuntumisael: bin files are images of cds or dvds01:24
hazardmurph: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$mkdir /tmp/hda && sudo mount /dev/hda3 /tmp/hda01:24
natic`kubuntuvlc playes them, if it is an image of a video cd, misael01:25
unix_infideli've never encountered a .bin file that's a executable binary in nix.01:25
hazardmurph: the 'hda3' there might be 'hda1' or 'hda2' though01:25
murphhazard: right01:25
LjLunix_infidel: i assure you there are quite a few01:25
murphno its 301:25
BluesKajnatic`kubuntu, compiz-freedesktop-kde01:25
goodthingLeeJunFan: i think i have a talent to remove files lying around somewhere, should be no hassle01:25
hazardoh ok01:25
unix_infidelactually, i take that back.01:25
hazarddid you actually have the /tmp/hda at the end?01:25
natic`kubuntuBluesKaj: i'll try01:25
LjLunix_infidel: at least judging from the number of time the "how do i run a .bin" question is asked01:25
hazardso it tries to mount it in the right place?01:25
LjL(and no, they don't usually mean a CD image)01:25
LeeJunFangoodthing: problem is you are logged into that user at the moment and are using your existing /home files.01:25
unix_infidelLjL: i've never seen any except for a few choice programs....01:25
natic`kubuntuthere is no such thing01:25
BluesKajnatic`kubuntu, it's in adept01:25
natic`kubuntunot in synaptic?01:26
BluesKajdunno01:26
LjLunix_infidel: some games, some video card drivers, and generally quite a few proprietary programs.01:26
BluesKajdin't check01:26
hazardmurph?01:26
LjLthe .bin's are more often than not installers01:26
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murphmount: /dev/hda already mounted or /tmp/hda busy01:26
unix_infidelLjL: yea, i've only dealt with the last of the three you mentioned.01:26
hazardmurph: type 'mount' and see what it says01:27
LeeJunFangoodthing: I think your easiest way is going to be to cd to /home, and sudo rm -rf *, then reboot. After you rm everything in your /home things will likely get a little wierd, so you may have to issue sudo reboot from the konsole you are in.01:27
BluesKajnatic`kubuntu, yup try synaptic01:27
hazardif there's something mounted to /tmp/hda then its mounted already01:27
natic`kubuntuBluesKaj: it is neither in synaptic nor in adept01:27
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natic`kubuntuhow else? they use the same repos01:27
hazard(though I don't kknow if it would have done so rw, it might be readonly)01:27
natic`kubuntukay, then tell me how do i install gnome?01:27
murphhazard: it's not mounted01:28
hazardwhat's telling you that?01:28
goodthingLeeJunFan: i know it sounds not like linux, but isn't rebooting safer here?01:28
goodthingjust asking01:28
BluesKajsorry to hear that , natic`kubuntu, maybe I have a few more repos than most :)01:28
murphshall i print it here? its like 10 lines01:28
natic`kubuntugimme them :) i want to run that xgl thing01:28
natic`kubuntuusing edgy01:29
hazardpeople don't like that.01:29
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alexicondhcp will not work with my wifi, anyone else have this problem01:29
murphbut is not on the list..01:29
LeeJunFangoodthing: yes, I think you should reboot after you remove the files.01:29
natic`kubuntualexicon: hat router?01:29
hazardwhat list?01:29
goodthingLeeJunFan: after, ok, not before01:29
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alexiconroute is a linksys, connecting on a vaio sz01:29
BluesKajwell, it needs to be edited ..there are some dupes , i think , but I'll pastebin it if ya like01:29
alexiconit works in suse and in windows fine01:30
Cheza-chanalexicon im having a similar problem though im not sure its dhcp causing my prob01:30
murphmount01:30
LeeJunFangoodthing: right, if you do it before you'll be removing everything you just copied, as sda1 will be on /home01:30
natic`kubuntulinksys should work fine with everything (=01:30
alexiconthe card is all configured and recognised01:30
LeeJunFangoodthing: I mean - if you do it after. hehe01:30
alexiconi can see networks01:30
alexiconbut not connect to anything01:30
alexiconi dont get an ip01:30
natic`kubuntuhmmm01:30
natic`kubuntuwifi is always... a little bitchy01:30
Cheza-chanyes it is. lol01:30
alexiconive had great luck with wifi until edgy01:30
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alexiconit worked fine for me in dapper and in all the other distros ive tried on my laptop01:31
goodthingLeeJunFan: what i can't get is why the installation did not put the files there, as i asked it to so01:31
natic`kubuntubitchy with linux... for damn windows all works fine01:31
alexiconsuse is excellent01:31
natic`kubuntuyep01:31
natic`kubuntui like suse myself01:31
natic`kubuntu:01:31
alexicontoo bad their package management sucks which is why i want to use kubuntu01:31
natic`kubuntuever tried smart?01:31
Cheza-chani dont get why my computer all of a sudden thinks my wifi card is a wired card. it shows up on ifconfig and not iwconfig01:31
natic`kubuntuthis yum thing is crap01:31
alexiconyeah i didnt have much luck with it01:31
LeeJunFangoodthing: I dunno. if you defined sda1 as /home it SHOULD have done just what you wanted. I do it that way all the time.01:31
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alexiconthe repositories are crap is the problem01:31
hazardI don't like GUIs, I usually break them anyway.01:31
alexiconi like all the little libs that deb has01:31
natic`kubuntui must admit, smart is still much slower then adept or synaptic01:32
LeeJunFangoodthing: so, rm, reboot, should be all good.01:32
natic`kubuntuist it because of the deb packages?01:32
alexiconapt4rpm didnt work well for me01:32
natic`kubuntui got smart up and running01:32
alexiconi need stuff like libnet-irc-ruby, libao-ruby blahblah01:32
natic`kubuntubut it is too slooooooooooow01:32
alexiconlots of development stuff01:32
alexiconits easy to find on kubuntu01:32
alexiconi cant be arsed with rpms01:32
goodthingLeeJunFan: ok, let's try, i have a spare computer next to me so be aware i can come back here ;)01:32
alexiconits so last century :P01:33
natic`kubuntuyeah, kubuntu gives you the repos01:33
tijoealexicon: I have KNetworkManager on mine and it recognises my cards. Don't know if that'll help you01:33
alexiconmy card is recognised already01:33
alexiconand configured01:33
goodthingLeeJunFan: thanks for help, doing command in a few01:33
bgsteffenswhat is the console command for rename file?01:33
alexiconi just cant connect :/01:33
alexiconbgsteffens: mv01:33
bgsteffensty01:33
alexiconyou move it to a new filename01:33
robotgeekbgsteffens: strange, but true :)01:33
alexiconnp01:33
BluesKajnatic`kubuntu, PM !01:33
natic`kubuntuBluesKaj: won't work...01:33
murphhazard: thanks i have it mounted now01:33
natic`kubuntutry a querry01:33
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hazardwelcome01:34
hazardmurph: is it read-write?01:34
natic`kubuntubut BluesKaj! i want compiz, not beryl01:34
hazardI don't remember what the default is if you don't specifiy it to be rw or ro01:34
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BluesKajthat's where it is01:35
murphwell i just wim'd the xorg.conf01:35
murphvim'd01:35
hazardand it saved?01:35
murphyup01:35
hazardguess it was rw then01:35
murphnow to reboot, cross your fingers01:35
hazard(or its lying)01:35
alexicon!pastebin01:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:35
hazardgoodluck01:35
murphthanks:)01:35
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alexiconthis is what happens when dhcp tries to connect  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37842/01:36
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NamShub(965 upgraded, 30 newly installed, 3 to remove and 7 not upgraded.)01:37
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alexiconsomeone was tyring to tell me yesterday that you HAVE to reboot in order to change what wifi network you are on01:40
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lbb_does anyone know the unhide command in grub, there is nobody on #grub01:40
goodthingLeeJunFan: seems it went well, /media/home/ seems to contain more files than /home/username though01:40
hazardwell, that was stupid, of all the things I've tried to get SDL to build, trying the unstable source wasn't one of them.01:41
goodthing*/media/home/username01:41
natic`kubuntualexicon: what does ifstatus eth1 says?01:41
natic`kubuntuare you sure, you called your wlan "eth1"?01:41
goodthing8 files less01:42
natic`kubuntualexicon: gimme the output of the "sudo ifstatus eth1"01:42
Cheza-chanhmm the plot thickens it seems that wlan0 doesnt even have a hwaddress set01:42
natic`kubuntualexicon: into pastebin, of course... i am out for a cigarette, be right back01:42
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goodthingLeeJunFan: anything i should do now?01:43
lbb_does anyone know how to unhide a partition using a kubuntu live-cd?01:44
lbb_I only know how to do it in grub (that's how I hid it in the first place)01:45
lbb_but that doesn't work01:45
alexiconnatic`kubuntu: i dont have ifstatus01:47
alexicondo you know what packages it is from?01:47
lbb_can anyone read this? I'm new to irc...01:47
LeeJunFangoodthing: it shouldn't. Actually there shouldn't be a /media/home. heh01:48
goodthingLeeJunFan: well, there is01:48
coreymon77hey guys01:48
LeeJunFangoodthing: I guess, there is on mine after all.01:48
coreymon77ive managed to convert 2 people in the past 4 days!01:48
BluesKajhey coreymon7701:48
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murph:D01:49
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natic`kubuntutheres no ifstatus on edgy?01:49
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lbb_coreymon: DRM??01:49
natic`kubuntucoreymon77: convert?01:50
coreymon77to linux01:50
natic`kubuntuwow01:50
natic`kubuntuwhy?01:50
alexiconnatic`kubuntu: dunno, i just dont seem to have it01:50
alexiconand adept just crashed lol01:50
natic`kubuntume too01:50
LeeJunFancoreymon77: what was their main reasons for their willingness to go linux?01:50
natic`kubuntususe has ifstatus01:50
natic`kubuntuvery useful01:50
alexiconyeah01:51
alexiconi see a package for ifstat01:51
coreymon77me giving them cds01:51
coreymon77and our doxe computers at school being crap01:51
natic`kubuntubut why do they use it?01:51
natic`kubuntuwhy use linux anyway?01:51
ChaniI'm about to attempt a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy, but I'm a little concerned about the changes apt wants to make. it's saying it'll remove things like kubuntu-desktop and linux-kernel-headers. should I be worried?01:51
natic`kubuntuChani: no risk, no fun01:51
alexiconwhy use linux? cos youre sick of viruses, worms, adware and spyware and a bloat os that runs too slow01:52
alexicon^^01:52
ChaniI've done a backup, of course, but I'd prefer it if I didn't have to use it.01:52
lbb_coreymon77 People seem very willing to convert if you tell them BG will decide if you can open your files soon01:52
natic`kubuntualexicon: my windows runs without viruses, spywares and equal stuff01:52
natic`kubuntualexicon: u have to know how to use windows01:52
LeeJunFanBS01:52
alexicontrue natic`kubuntu01:52
LeeJunFanyeah, keep it offline.01:52
alexiconbut most people dont really know how01:52
alexiconlol LeeJunFan01:52
natic`kubuntuand i am online with it :01:53
alexiconand for the people who dont know how, linux ubuntu is perfect for htem01:53
alexiconapart from this bloody wifi hassle01:53
PerseidI have never had a virus on XP in 5 years.01:53
natic`kubuntuaw, ubuntu is not convincing to me01:53
alexiconme either really01:53
alexiconive installed it for loads of people tho01:53
alexiconand its been ok01:53
alexiconbut on the laptop its hassle01:53
natic`kubuntuRIGHT01:53
alexiconi cant believe suse is working better than it01:53
natic`kubuntu<-- dell laptop01:53
natic`kubuntususe was the only one who worked with my laptop out of the box01:54
alexiconused to have quite a lot of faith in *ubuntu01:54
alexiconmust have done at least 5-6 installs over the summer, but edgy has been too buggy01:54
natic`kubuntubut my suse installation is pretty slow...01:54
alexiconway too buggy...01:54
LeeJunFanthere's your problem, dell uses the cheapest chipset crap they can get their hands on at any given moment, likely chipsets that have no linux support.01:54
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alexicondell is pretty bog standard01:54
natic`kubuntuaaaaw01:54
alexiconits been fine for linux really01:54
natic`kubuntutherefore, i have an insurance against stupidity for 3 years01:54
alexiconso many people have dell its likely to be more supported, or at least easier to find support for01:54
LeeJunFanbroadcom chipsets and the such are not quality.01:55
Chaniis there anyone here that has experience with apt-get?01:55
natic`kubuntui can take a cup of coffee and split it over my laptop, and i'll get a new one a week later01:55
natic`kubuntudelivered to my place01:55
lbb_chani: a litle...01:55
alexiconbut this is rather irrelevant01:55
LeeJunFanMy company bought 6 dell inspirons some time back, 5 of them didn't last long enough to get the coffee hot enough to spill on them.01:55
Chanilbb_: see my earlier question01:56
alexiconive used linux since 2001, and gentoo for most of that time, i switched to *ubuntu cos its supposed to be less of a headache :P01:56
alexiconanyone know whats up with these wifi connections?01:56
natic`kubuntunope01:56
alexiconmrrrrr01:56
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natic`kubuntui did a few more installation during this summer01:56
natic`kubuntu10-2001:56
natic`kubuntuof suse...01:56
natic`kubuntuand sometimes it worked, and sometimes it did not01:56
alexicondid about 5-6 of kubuntu dapper that all went as planned01:56
LeeJunFanalexicon: what chipset is your wifi?01:56
natic`kubuntusometimes it worked with knetwork manager, sometimes only over ifup01:56
Chanialexicon: heh, I switched 'cause I didn't have time to maintain gentoo. I'd forgotten about the dist-upgrade nightmare01:57
alexicon06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)01:57
alexiconyeah Chani heh01:57
LeeJunFan!wifi01:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:57
alexicondist-upgrade, i dont bother, i just do a fresh install01:57
alexiconyeah LeeJunFan ive read that all bloody day01:57
alexiconand it doesnt have anything useful01:57
natic`kubuntugoddammit, why did not anybody tell me, that the gnome installation requieres some action?01:57
alexiconmy card works01:57
alexiconi just cant connect01:57
jonteccan anyone tell me why my sound doesn't work? The controls built in to my laptop work fine... it mutes and raises and lowers the volume of my sound, but I don't get any sound T_T I am on a amd64 Gateway MX6446 running kubuntu edgy01:57
Chaniit'd be nice if there was someone to talk to about this stuff.01:57
alexiconchani heres the place :P01:58
Chanialexicon: apparently not01:58
natic`kubuntujontec: i had this problem, because my pcm was turned off for any reason01:58
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LeeJunFanalexicon: crap, I don't know about that chipset. I do madwifi atheros all the time.01:58
natic`kubuntuis there any mini-pci card out there, able to manage wifi AND bluetooth?01:58
alexiconits ok LeeJunFan its nowt to do with the chipset tho. i cant get an ip is the problem01:58
Chanialexicon: one person has "a litle" experience with apt-get. nobody answered my dist-upgrade question01:58
Cheza-chandoes someone know why edgy isnt assigning a hwaddress to wlan0?01:58
Admiral_Chicagoso i ran sudo -s or some silly command like that, now anything sudo gives me an error01:59
LeeJunFanalexicon: but iwconfig shows you the info for the card?01:59
Admiral_Chicagoany ideas?01:59
alexiconyep LeeJunFan01:59
alexiconshows everything01:59
natic`kubuntu"some silly command"01:59
alexiconeven the key01:59
jontecnatic'kubuntu: it's not that :D in kmix everything's turned all the way up... T_T01:59
natic`kubuntuhm01:59
jontecnatic`kubuntu: it's not that :D in kmix everything's turned all the way up... T_T01:59
natic`kubuntui don't know01:59
robotgeekjontec: try changing keyboard layout , edgy or dapper?01:59
alexiconsays im on the essid, but wont gimme an ip01:59
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LeeJunFanalexicon: dhclient [device]  won't get you an IP via dhcp?01:59
alexicon!dist-upgrade >> Chani01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
Admiral_Chicagonatic`kubuntu: well it saw something like sudo -s01:59
alexiconnope LeeJunFan it fails01:59
drkmI just installed KDevelop but it didn't seem to make any short cuts on my program menu??02:00
jontecrobotgeek: how will that help? edgy... I just upgraded... but it didn't work before on dapper02:00
alexiconhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37842/ LeeJunFan02:00
natic`kubuntuwhy are you using sudo -s?02:00
Admiral_Chicagocan't remember it off the top of my head02:00
alexiconthats what i get with dhclient02:00
natic`kubuntustop it... :P02:00
alexicon!dist-update02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dist-update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
alexiconstupid02:00
LjL!upgrade02:00
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:00
LeeJunFanalexicon: crp, gotta run. if you're on later while I'm on I'll see if I can help you out.02:00
jontecalexicon: dist-upgrade isn't a package :D02:00
alexiconcheers LeeJunFan02:00
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robotgeekjontec: oh sorry, i misunderstood.02:01
alexiconits not my issue jontec its someone else02:01
ChaniI'm about to attempt a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy, but I'm a little concerned about the changes apt wants to make. it's saying it'll remove things like kubuntu-desktop and linux-kernel-headers. should I be worried?02:01
lbb_drkm: do you know how to do it manually?02:01
robotgeekjontec: your sound doesn't work? or what exactly is the issue?02:01
alexiconno chani its no worry02:01
natic`kubuntuChani: it should work fine02:01
alexiconits safe02:01
Chaniok02:02
natic`kubuntuhey, folks...02:02
natic`kubuntui start the adept manager02:02
natic`kubuntusearch for "gnome"02:02
natic`kubuntuinstall gnome02:02
jontecrobotgeek: kubuntu resopnds to my laptop's integrated sound buttons fine, but the sound just doesn't work. I was trying to play a .ogg and I got no sound. It has never worked... it didn't work on dapper02:02
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natic`kubuntuwith all other things it requires02:02
natic`kubuntuand now? should it work after ctrl-alt-backspace?02:02
jontecrobotgeek: I have sound turned all the way up in kmix and sound turned all the way up with my notebook buttons02:02
alexiconyeah natic`kubuntu you gotta choose it from the menu02:03
alexiconas you are logging in02:03
natic`kubuntugreat02:03
alexicon:)02:03
natic`kubuntunever got this far with suse :02:03
alexiconlol02:03
natic`kubuntuGODDAMMIT02:03
drkmllb: I can run it by running KDevelop from 'Run'.. but I installed the multi-programming-language one.. wasn't sure if that was all in the 1 program, or it installed multiple programs?02:03
natic`kubuntui need to adjust my keyboard layout...02:03
robotgeekjontec: hmm, interesting. is the correct channel/device selected in kmix preferences02:03
natic`kubuntui cant make brackets for smileys02:03
alexiconsame natic`kubuntu heh ive got a jap kb, and in english i dont have winslash or pipe02:03
natic`kubuntui used to have02:03
alexiconcant remember where i stored the map02:03
natic`kubuntuthen i had to reconfigure x02:04
natic`kubuntuand now...02:04
natic`kubuntustupid installation guide... asking me if i want to use a 102 key-keyboard or something else02:04
natic`kubuntudo they expect me to count the keys?!02:04
natic`kubuntu-.-02:04
notechheaven forbid it offer choices02:04
lbb_drmk i don't know kdevelop, but once you run it you should see if it supports more than one language02:04
jontecrobotgeek: you mean as in master channel and pcm? I tried switching them.... (I only have pcm and master) but no change02:05
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Chanijontec: are you in the group that has permission to use the sound card?02:05
LjLnatic`kubuntu, you could just have press Enter at the default (which happened to be the previous setting that you had in xorg.conf)02:05
LjLaka "audio"02:05
natic`kubuntui did02:05
crimsun_jontec: which sound card?02:05
jontecChani: it's listed in my user.... if I wasn't in the group... then it'd have an x over the kmix icon, correct?02:06
sedathow can I set default view as "detailed list view" permanently in konquerer02:06
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jonteccrimsun_: I have no idea... I'd have to log onto windows to find out I think02:06
alexiconmmm ThePub02:06
robotgeekjontec: lspci -v02:06
crimsun_jontec: asoundconf list02:06
robotgeekheh, better :)02:06
ThePubtasty and cold-filtered :)02:06
lbb_sedat: isn't it in the prefs?02:06
alexiconheh02:06
notechjontec: lscpi -vv | grep -i audio02:06
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sedatlbb_: when I canged it02:07
notechi've seen where asoundconf didn't list it, or correctly02:07
sedatit changes back again02:07
crimsun_notech: that's the entire point.02:08
sedatlbb_: what do you mean by prefs02:08
crimsun_notech: if it doesn't return anything, we know something additional02:08
lbb_sedat: prefferences02:08
natic`kubuntuso02:08
jontecnotech, crimsun_, robotgeek: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)02:08
natic`kubuntui'll try gnome now...02:08
notechk, just thought it might be nice to see what it actually was first :)02:08
natic`kubuntubrb02:08
crimsun_jontec: lsmod |grep ^snd_atiixp02:09
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sedatlbb_: where is preferences02:09
jonteccrimsun_: I got nothing back from that.... was I supposed to?02:09
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natic`kubuntukay thats my gnome02:09
natic`kubuntuneato02:09
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crimsun_jontec: what was returned from ``asoundconf list''?02:10
natic`kubuntusome mac fetish02:10
Perseidin grub what's the difference between root and rootnoverify?02:10
jonteccrimsun_: SB02:10
natic`kubuntuxgl, i am coming02:11
crimsun_jontec: and the output from amixer?02:11
crimsun_jontec: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:11
sedatlbb_: where can I change preferences02:11
lbb_sedat: sorry its called settings ->configure konqueror02:11
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jonteccrimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37848/02:12
sedatlbb_: I couldn't find such a settings in there,02:12
crimsun_jontec: cat /proc/asound/modules02:12
jonteccrimsun_:  0 snd_hda_intel02:14
alexiconLOL i like how firefox is described as "lightweight" still02:14
crimsun_jontec: ah, you need to try alsa-driver-1.0.14rc102:14
jonteccrimsun_: hehe... that's weird that it even said intel... I have an amd6402:15
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jonteccrimsun_:how?02:15
lbb_sedat: try configure view profiles02:15
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crimsun_jontec: download alsa-driver from www.alsa-project.org02:15
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goodthingLeeJunFan: i have reverted /media/home to /media/sda1 again, but i do not get why /home/username gives me less files than /media/sda102:16
natic`kubuntueeeeeeeeeeeeew02:16
goodthingthat's weird02:16
natic`kubuntumy firefox icon is so ugly02:16
natic`kubuntusome globe...02:16
natic`kubuntueeeeeeeeeeeeew02:16
natic`kubuntuhowto change it into the orange cute fox?02:16
sedatlbb_: thanks I just realized that02:17
lbb_natic: rightclick it and go to configure02:17
jonteccrimsun_: the development release?02:17
crimsun_jontec: yes.02:17
jonteccrimsun_: so what's this do?02:18
crimsun_jontec: you need to install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) next02:18
crimsun_jontec: you need newer drivers.02:18
jontecokay... is "linux-headers-$(uname -r) next" a command? where do I run it? anywhere?02:20
crimsun_use adept/aptitude/apt-get to install `build-essential' and `linux-headers-$(uname -r)'02:21
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lbb_anyone know how to unhide a partition, it is hidden by hide(hd0,1) in grub, but unhide(hd0,1) gives me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"02:22
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matthewIs the guy who was named townyc here?02:23
matthewI was helping him w/ his xorg.conf02:23
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bgsteffensanybody know anything about zlib?02:23
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matthewlbb_, maybe try show02:25
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goodthinganyone knows if perpendicular hard disks are a problem under linux?02:25
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matthewgoodthing, no problem02:25
matthewgoodthing, it is transparent to the operating system02:26
lbb_matthew: bash: show: command not found02:26
sedatlbb_: how can I set my profile as default profile :)02:26
matthewlbb_, I wasn't sure, just try some synonyms of that02:26
goodthingmatthew: hmm, ok, but my system does not boot with it when i put two other disk in it so there must be some bug02:26
matthewgoodthing, hmmm, that doesn't make sense, because perpendicular refers to the orientation of magnetic particles02:27
goodthingbad thing is that i have no third spare sata disk lying around to test that02:27
matthewmagnetically charged particles, at least02:27
jonteccrimsun_: but I don't understand what I do with this .tar.gz file that I'm downloading?02:27
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jontec.tar.bz2*02:28
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crimsun_jontec: do you have those packages installed yet?02:28
matthewgoodthing, I should think it's just a coincidence02:28
goodthingmatthew: i know, but it also does not makes sense that the /dev/sda and /dev/sdc are getting switched when i put three disks in my system02:28
jonteccrimsun_: no, I am downloading the file... (I have dial-up so I have to do one at a time)02:28
lbb_sedat I dont know actually02:28
matthewgoodthing, hmmm, I really have no idea...sorry02:28
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bgsteffensis there something like the ms-dos batch file for linux?02:29
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crimsun_jontec: you have to compile newer drivers yourself, which is the process through which I'm talking yoe02:29
alexiconbash script bgsteffens02:29
crimsun_you02:29
bgsteffensty02:29
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matthewbgsteffens, bash02:30
matthewjust so you know...lol02:30
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hazardgoodthing: your bios might actually be detecting the drives in a diffrent order when you have more of them, giving the order to linux (since it will see the drives in the order the bios does to assign letters anyway)02:30
alexiconanyone have tips for installing the nvidia-glx drivers??02:31
hazardsell your soul?02:31
alexiconheh02:31
hazardI've *HEARD* its easier than getting GL support on an ATI card, but beyond that not really.02:31
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coreymon77guys02:31
hazard(I know i've gotten it to work once or twice)02:31
coreymon77my frend sis trying ot instyall kubuntu02:31
coreymon77and he needs to resize his partition02:32
jonteccrimsun_: it's gonna be 4MB download for the build-essential package... that's gonna be about 15-20 minutes T_T02:32
bgsteffensmatthew: how do i name a bash script and then how do i run it?02:32
matthewcoreymon77, I can help02:32
coreymon77how should he do it02:32
alexicon"sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". always fails for me02:32
alexiconError: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed02:32
alexiconthe nvidia driver for your running kernel.02:32
alexiconbut it says its installed02:32
coreymon77hes using qtparted to resiize the ntfs partition02:32
alexicon!nvidia02:32
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:32
goodthinghazard: so... me thinking loud: there is no way to get three disks to work for me02:32
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matthewbgsteffens, I think you put this in the first line : #!bash02:32
hazardbgsteffens: have you written the script already02:32
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matthewbgsteffens, not sure though02:32
hazard?02:32
murchadh_bhababgsteffens, nano ~/myfirstscript02:32
matthewcoreymon77, I can help you if you'd like02:32
coreymon77but we dont knwo how much to leave off for linux02:32
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alexiconbgsteffens: name it anything just run it iwth ./bashscriptname02:33
matthewcoreymon77, are you dual-booting?02:33
hazardgoodthing: I know for a fact you can get more than 3 drives working ( have machines with as many as 14 harddrives which all work fine)02:33
alexiconmake sure you have the permission right02:33
bgsteffensalexicon ok thanks02:33
alexiconchmod +x bashscript02:33
alexiconso you can execute it02:33
natic`kubuntuoka02:33
natic`kubuntuokay02:33
murchadh_bhabaType echo "hello bgsteffens!"02:33
natic`kubuntui got xgl up and running02:33
hazardbgsteffens: do what alexicon says02:33
natic`kubuntuand now? how do i get this cool cube effects?02:33
alexiconreally natic`kubuntu!02:33
matthewcoreymon77, do you have Windows XP on another partition?02:33
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alexiconberyl natic`kubuntu02:33
goodthinghazard: i dunno, i am just guessing here02:33
coreymon77he does02:33
natic`kubuntucompiz02:33
alexiconhowd you get it working natic`kubuntu are you using nvidia?02:34
hazardgoodthing: what's your hardware setup?02:34
natic`kubuntuyep, nvidia02:34
matthewcoreymon77, How big is the hard drive?02:34
alexiconmrrr02:34
murchadh_bhababgsteffens, ctrl^o, enter, ctrl^x02:34
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coreymon7725002:34
coreymon77gigs02:34
alexiconyour nvidia-glx just worked natic`kubuntu?02:34
natic`kubuntudon't remember...02:34
alexicon:P02:34
matthewcoreymon77, Why not just split it in half? Don't forget to make a swap partition!02:34
natic`kubuntui guess, i had to use this alternative thing02:34
murchadh_bhababgsteffens, chmod +x ~/myfirstscript02:34
alexiconwhat alternative thing?02:34
natic`kubuntubut now, on xgl, my fonts are so small ^02:34
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murchadh_bhababgsteffens, ~/myfirstscript02:34
bgsteffenshazard: got it :) .. 'nano b'... #!/bin/bash \n echo hi ... chmod +x b ... ./b02:34
alexicon~/ will only work if the script is in your home dir02:35
natic`kubuntui can hardly see something02:35
coreymon77how bigshould the swap be02:35
alexicon512-1gb02:35
hazardmy experience has indicated that mesa pretty transparently came in when needed, I dunno if it'd to the window server if the card couldn't on its own02:35
alexiconor more if uyou want coreymon7702:35
alexiconi use 1gb02:35
natic`kubuntuthere are nvidia-glx, alexicon and something alternative, don't remember02:35
alexiconalternative? tell meeeee :P02:35
natic`kubuntui've never seen my swap partition in use -.-02:36
alexiconive got nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-glx and kernel restricted modules02:36
hazardthere's the nvidia binary drivers, and then some open source ones02:36
hazardthere's also the ati ones, and the old mamed ati open souce drivers.02:36
alexiconswap goes to use when you dont use a program for a while02:36
alexiconit switches out of proper memory onto harddisk02:36
hazardeither way, the ati drivers for linux suck (from what I've heard)02:36
natic`kubuntui am running an xgl session right now...02:36
natic`kubuntubut how do i use the cuuuube?!02:36
natic`kubuntu:)02:36
alexiconwhenever an app lags when you havent used it a while its cos of swap02:36
goodthinghazard: motherboard: asus a8n sli deluxe with a nforce 4 chip (SATA-II), one seagate barracuda 750GB (just bought and put on the first SATA port of motherboard), two maxtor diamondmax plus 10 300GB (second and third port). The system only boots with two connectors in use, three is a problem.02:36
alexiconnatic`kubuntu: did you add a repo to get nvidia working???02:37
alexiconapart from uni/multiverse that is02:37
natic`kubuntunope, alexicon02:37
alexiconhrm02:37
hazardgoodthing: that board has an onboard RAID controller (I'd think), you're sure it isn't trying to autoconfigure the towo 300s into a mirror 300 or stripe 600?02:37
alexiconi dont get why it doesnt work for me02:37
natic`kubuntuhm02:37
natic`kubuntuhow the hack do i use this cube effect?02:37
natic`kubuntuwhats the shortcut?02:37
hazardgoodthing: and which drive is it PRESENTLY booting off of (if any?), also it may be interesting to see what the bios thinks it should be booting from.02:38
murchadh_bhabanatic`kubuntu, Can you see the red beryl icon in the system tray?02:38
coreymon77okay02:38
alexiconhow can i be sure if the nvidia-kernel is running???02:38
hazardOn my machine with 14 drives, its sometimes vauge as to which drive what bios thinkgs should be booting the system02:38
alexiconnatic`kubuntu: do a uname -a for me plz02:38
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goodthinghazard: correct, it has raid, but that is on the four red SATA connectors, not the black one. So i guess that would be no. (also, raid is disabled in BIOS)02:38
natic`kubuntuLinux Jenny 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux02:38
alexiconsame as me then02:39
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alexiconnrrr02:39
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coreymon77okay guys02:39
alexiconokay coreymon7702:39
coreymon77now he has his dirve and his swap02:39
natic`kubuntui don't know what a beryl is, murchadh_bhaba02:39
natic`kubuntuenglish is not my native languagepack :P02:39
alexiconberyl is a fancy compiz02:39
hazardgoodthing: does linux have SATA be /dev/hd* or /dev/sd*?02:39
goodthinghazard: currently booting from the new drive, but that only works if i disconnect one of the maxtors02:39
coreymon77now02:39
matthewcoreymon77, did that answer all your questions02:39
matthew?02:39
coreymon77nope02:39
alexiconcompiz is just transparency stuff? beryl does the cube?02:39
alexiconi think thats it02:40
coreymon77now for installing02:40
alexiconbut not sure02:40
goodthinghazard: the02:40
goodthingoops02:40
hazardgoodthing: what does the system post screen say?02:40
natic`kubuntukay... i don't see no tray icons anywhere... there is only the sound thing, the konversation thing, and the log out thing02:40
hazard(when all the drives are connected?)02:40
murchadh_bhabanatic`kubuntu, I had to install beryl and emerald to get the spinny cube thingy, beryl loads, does it's thing. Radeon 9250!02:40
goodthinghazard: the BIOS detects the disks in order i connect them afaik02:40
natic`kubuntuokay02:40
natic`kubuntuenough for today then02:40
natic`kubuntui'll go to sleep02:40
coreymon77matthew:02:40
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coreymon77for partitioning02:40
natic`kubuntuits about 3 am in germany right now02:40
coreymon77how should he do it02:41
coreymon77manually02:41
hazardwell, that makes sense I guess, and the bios is set to boot from the first one?02:41
coreymon77in the installer02:41
natic`kubuntusee ya02:41
alexiconnight natic`kubuntu02:41
hazardwait, did you say it would startup with two of them, or only the 750 alone?02:41
matthewcoreymon77, so, you're set for partitions?02:42
coreymon77i dont know02:42
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coreymon77matthew: i already have kubuntu installed and done02:42
goodthinghazard: there is no POST message, sometimes it comes with an usb error though02:42
coreymon77this is for my friend'02:42
matthewcoreymon77, ok, ok, He should resize the NTFS partition02:42
hazardlol, USB for comic releif02:42
coreymon77matthew: hes already done resizing, now we are using the installer02:42
hazardso if all 3 drives are connected, it does nothing?02:42
matthewcoreymon77, then with the remaining space, make a 1 gig swap partition and partition the rest to be ext302:42
coreymon77weve done that02:43
coreymon77we did that all in qtparted02:43
hazardJust nothing? (which is diffrent from what I was thinking was going on)02:43
coreymon77matthew: now we are in the installer02:43
matthewcoreymon77, so...ok...do need help w/ anything? (I'm so lost)02:43
matthewcoreymon77, ok...what's the problem?02:43
coreymon77and we are in the manual partition tables window in the kubuntu installer02:43
matthewcoreymon77, you need to select "manually edit partition scheme" or something like that02:43
coreymon77yes02:44
coreymon77and now on that window02:44
hazardbecause, if that's the case goodthing, then its a hardware conflict of some bizzare kind relating to the sata controller and the driver (likely similar to what happens with IDE when you have two drives with the same ID)02:44
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matthewI would leave it as it is, if you have the partitions the way he wants them...02:44
coreymon77heres what it says02:44
tomlinsanyone help me with Amarok ? It will play all media, CDs etc but not streaming audio :(02:44
matthewcoreymon77, ok02:44
matthewcoreymon77, ok, I'll go to the private chat area now...02:45
goodthinghazard: depends on which of the maxtors is at third sata connector, if i put the old disk with dapper on second SATA connector and the other maxtor on third SATA connector, edgy stalls at: "Waiting for root file system..."02:45
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goodthinghazard: if i go the other way around, and swith the connectors of the two maxtors i get some weird error which i made a screenshot of02:46
goodthing(need to find it now...)02:46
hazardo.O02:46
hazardThat brings back memories....02:47
goodthinghazard: http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7773/1000990fj6.jpg02:47
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goodthingsorry about the quality, it's a bad camera, one trillion mili movement and all is streched02:48
hazardthose are the USB errors?02:48
tomlinsanyone help me with Amarok ? It will play all media, CDs etc but not streaming audio :(02:48
hazardThey look pretty tpyical, I get all kinds of werid USB errors, and my system is fine.02:48
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hazardbut it never gets past there?02:48
goodthinghazard: nope, it just sits there but only with the disk exactly attached like that02:49
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hazardgoodthing: here's a crazy idea, what if you leave the 750 connected to the FIRST sata connector, then connected the two 300s to the RAID controller, and set it up to have them be standalone drives (it should let you do that)02:50
goodthinghazard: nope the other USB error is at the boot immediately but only returns rarely, i am forced to boot into an OS without a USB-keyboard to get around that error when that happens02:50
goodthinghazard: that is an error i already had on windows 1.5 years ago though02:51
hazardI have no idea what linux would do though02:51
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goodthinghazard: me neiter, but there is data on those disks i cannot loose02:52
hazardanyway, I've gotta go get ready for a final, goodluck! (keep in mind its probably something bizzare and conflict-like, and so so simple)02:52
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goodthingthanks for help hazard :)02:52
hazardoh, and lucky you for having 2x300G + one of those new 750s.02:52
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hazardsoz I couldn't be more helpful, later02:53
Darkmakes me cry when I think of my 20gb hdd on laptop :(02:53
goodthingnp, been helpfull to me02:53
lbb_tomlins: have you installed mp3 codecs?02:54
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marianohey guys, I am having trouble getting sound out of flash player. can someone help me, it is the last thing that I need to fully abandon windows02:56
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kristopherWho would name a release anything resembling the hurd02:57
crimsun_mariano: use one of the backports02:57
ubuntuhey02:57
marianowhat do I install, it says that flash player is already installed02:57
crimsun_mariano: lsb_release -r02:58
lbb_hi ubuntu02:58
crimsun_mariano: more than likely you need to enable -backports for whatever release you're using02:59
mariano6.1002:59
marianois what I get02:59
crimsun_right, you need edgy-backports02:59
crimsun_!backports |mariano02:59
ubotumariano: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports02:59
marianothanks02:59
kristopheranyways, thanks to whoever recommended EasyTAG yesterday02:59
jonteccrimsun_: okay, it's done, so just run that command?03:00
crimsun_jontec: which command?03:00
kristopheralthough it has a mind of its own which i blame on gtk, it works well.03:00
ubuntuhey people , any one see me ??03:00
murchadh_bhabaUbugtu, oh yeah.03:00
jonteccrimsun_: "linux-headers-$(uname -r) next"03:00
jonteccrimsun_: replace uname with my username?03:01
crimsun_jontec: no.03:01
crimsun_jontec: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:01
lbb_ununtu: what's the problem?03:01
ubuntuthank you03:01
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jonteccrimsun_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37854/03:03
crimsun_jontec: good, now download alsa-driver-1.0.14rc103:03
ubuntuman how many people are here ............03:03
crimsun_jontec: I'm off for dinner and will return in 2 hours03:03
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ForgeAushey all03:04
marianoI did the whole backport thing and still no sound for flash player 903:04
jonteccrimsun_: and do what? before you leave?03:04
ForgeAusI'm running Kubuntu from within VM ware and I have an issue with the powermanagement03:04
ForgeAus(I can't seem to shrink the screen :( )03:04
DaSkreechDink: Heya03:04
tomlinsanyone know possibly why my Amarok will play streaming audio but I cant here it ? It plays other media just fine03:04
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ForgeAusdoes SIGSEGV mean anyting to you guys?03:04
marianoI've tried three different browsers and nothing. I just get the picture with no sound03:05
crimsun_jontec: extract the tarball, use ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build --with-debug=detect && make && sudo make install-modules03:05
DaSkreechtomlins: Did you install extracodecs?03:05
jonteccrimsun_: and that's it?03:05
jonteccrimsun_: sorry for holding you up03:05
tomlinsnope03:06
tomlinsjust what ever was downloaded with Kubunty03:06
DaSkreechubuntu: 29703:06
crimsun_jontec: reboot afterward.03:06
tomlinskubuntu excuse me03:06
DaSkreechtomlins: install mp3 support03:06
DaSkreech!mp3 > tomlins03:07
lbb_tomlins: search for automatix, it will install all yo need03:07
tomlinsgreat !03:07
tomlinsthanks !03:08
lbb_anyone know how to unhide a partition, it is hidden by hide(hd0,1) in grub, but unhide(hd0,1) gives me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"03:08
marianoany idea as to how I can get sound on media flash player03:08
LjL!automatix | lbb_, tomlins03:09
ubotulbb_, tomlins: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:09
tomlinshmmm, ok03:09
jonteccrimsun_:thanks. and have a good dinner :D03:09
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coreymon77!worksforme03:10
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.03:10
tomlinsso, can anyone play streaming audio ok with Amarok ?03:10
lbb_ubotu: what is WorksForMe?03:11
ubuntuhello people , why is it that when i try to install kubuntu en my cpu it installs fine , but , when i do restart to start from the hard drive it gives me this message grub loading and then  ,error 105 ,03:11
DaSkreechtomlins: Install mp3 support03:11
DaSkreech!mp3 | tomlins03:11
ubotutomlins: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:11
LjLlbb_: look just above.03:11
tomlinsyep. checking those out now :)03:11
DaSkreech!grub03:11
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:11
ubuntu??03:11
DaSkreechubuntu: Read that last link03:11
ubuntuthank you03:12
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nibiHi03:16
lbb_LjL: I'm a bit confused about !WorksForme, also are you a bot too?03:16
LjLlbb_: no03:17
lbb_nini: Hi03:17
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LjLlbb_: !worksforme is a bot factoid, just like !automatix. it's something that you can ask the bot about. and that's been done --03:17
LjL!worksforme03:17
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.03:17
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LjLsee?03:17
nibii am having problems installing/uninstalling stuff, maybe there's something wrong with my package manager03:18
lbb_LjL: why did a tab just open explaining ubotu?03:18
nibitotally new to kubuntu03:18
lbb_nibi: what's happening?03:18
nibihttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1904375#post190437503:18
LjLlbb_: because you asked "ubotu: what is WorksForMe?", not realizing, i suppose, that being just a bot, it can't really answer plain-english queries.03:19
LjLi suppose you got the "your request got forwarded", too.03:19
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lbb_LjL, yeah, what does it mean03:21
LjLlbb_: it means you're involuntarily submitted a request for adding a factoid. when Ubotu sees something like "ubotu, <x> is <y>", it takes it as you're trying to instruct it on something.03:22
LjLmaybe actually reading that page that i had it send to you would help understanding how that works ;)03:22
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lbb_LjL, sorry, will read befory I ask any further...03:23
tomlinshey great, I inserted an mp3 CD which forced Amarok to ask if I wanted to install mp3 codecs, which I did, and now I can play streaming audio ! Super !03:24
spitwise!ubotu03:24
LjLlbb_: that's probably a good idea, not least because ubotu can be quite a nice source of information if you know how to use it.03:24
LjL!bot03:24
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:24
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tomlinsmy next question is where do i get the libvisual stuff from ?03:27
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nibican anyone please help me out? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32084903:31
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lbb_nibi: I'm not a bot, nor do i mind if you private me, but I cannot answer you there since i am not registered yet.03:33
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nibiok np03:33
nibii just tried installing compiz a few days back03:33
nibiusing adept manager03:34
nibibut it didn't complete successfully03:34
nibigave me the following error message:03:34
nibi"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."03:34
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nibinow it lists compiz as installed, eventhough it isn't03:35
lbb_do you know what the message before that was?03:35
nibithat was the only message03:35
nibii used the gui03:35
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orvillehas anyone gotten the trackpad to work on a macbook pro?03:35
lbb_in the gui there is a possibility to see the shell messages03:36
fannagogannahi, anyone know how to repair an orphaned LVM setup?03:36
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DaSkreechI cna't format a partiton03:36
ben_hi03:36
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DaSkreechthe mkfs command is telling me a bad argument was passed to the superblock03:36
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nibihi03:36
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DaSkreechnibi: Where did you install compiz from?03:38
nibii just searched it on adept manager03:38
marianono luck03:38
marianostill no sound after logging out03:38
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[Relic] Is there any way to get mozilla or firefox to cooperate with yahoo?03:39
DaSkreechJucato: Know anything about mkfs.ext3 ?03:40
DaSkreechhi goes goodthing03:40
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goodthingDaSkreech: bussy with my new disk, still not made my system to adopt the damn thing03:41
[Relic] certain things like email attachements and any multi player games don03:41
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lbb_mariano: I have had my flash sound working on and off, but I don't know exactly what happened...03:41
[Relic] 't work on yahoo with firefox or mozilla03:41
jerpwhat's flash sound?03:42
wes-i am trying to mount an NTFS partition so that a standard user can access it (this is on the live cd). when i do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/windows", and try to open it in konqueror it says not enough permission03:42
goodthinggot a new error message while booting though: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5826/1000991ql4.jpg03:42
wes-how can i do a mount command, that will give a non superuser full access?03:42
goodthingthat message is with one of the maxtor disks on SATA3 port03:43
lbb_jerp: the sound in flashplayer ( for example for youtube)03:43
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jerplibb, you're further along than I if you have a flash movie playing from YouTube regardless of sound.03:45
murchadh_bhabawes try sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media03:45
wes-when i add "uid=1000" to the end of that mount command...it prints some help message...doesn't take the command03:45
goodthinghmm, not true what i say, it is with one specific maxtor on 3 and one specific on 203:45
wes-any idea where my syntax is wrong?03:45
murchadh_bhabawes try sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/windows03:45
wes-murchadh_bhaba: ok thanks, i know you suggested that earlier - my system crashed before i tried it03:46
wes-so i had to take a hardware detour for a few hours :)03:46
lbb_jerp: I used automatix, but that is controversial due to stabilityproblems03:46
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murchadh_bhabawes-, Try it again before I go....03:47
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jerplibb, yes, I have used Automatix before03:47
wes-murchadh_bhaba: worked man, thanks!03:48
ubuntuwell people thank you so much03:48
DaSkreechubuntu: Welcome03:48
lbb_jerp: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats03:48
jerpI just thought I'd try an operating system that wouldn't break and didn't install it03:48
marianolbb, were you able to solve the issue03:49
jerplbb, nope03:49
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murchadh_bhabawes-, Great stuff!03:49
marianothe flash player sound issue?03:49
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lbb_mariano: no, as I said, I don't know what I did when it started working..03:50
JucatoDaSkreech: sorry, dunno anything about that03:50
wes-does anyone know what the password for the 'ubuntu' user is on the live cd?03:50
wes-or how i could set it?03:51
LjLwes-: should be blank03:51
jerplbb, is that a flashplayer install guide or something?03:51
DaSkreechHmm03:51
marianowell, looks like it is back to windows for a while03:51
DaSkreechWouldn't happen o knowwhat a GPT signature is inside of a partition table?03:51
DaSkreechmariano: What's up?03:51
marianono flash player sound03:51
marianothis is my first time trying kubuntu03:52
lbb_jerp: I don't understand you03:52
marianono sound for flash player though03:52
DaSkreechWhich flash player did you install?03:52
jerpI spent all day trying to get gnash to work and gave up (I'm severly newb)03:52
marianobeen trying to fix it the whole weekend03:52
mariano903:52
marianoflahs player 903:52
wes-anyone know the command to change your current users password?03:52
jerplbb, nevermind, I thought you were enticing me or something or is it that ol' paranoia bug again?03:53
lbb_wes: you need to know you current one03:53
excitatorywes-: passwd03:53
marianoI found this post with a solution, but i'm freeked out it might screw up my sound03:53
marianothis is the first distribution that reads my sound card03:54
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lbb_mariano: whats the link?03:54
wes-sudo passwd user newpassword ?03:54
goodthing$ sudo passwd username03:54
excitatoryno need for sudo03:54
goodthingaha03:54
excitatoryif it's just the users password03:54
marianohttp://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/03:55
goodthingah, didn't realized that03:55
excitatorymariano: the flash9 player is easy.. you download it, then mv it into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/03:55
marianoI did03:55
marianoI have the flash player installed03:55
excitatoryfor konq, just rescan03:55
marianoI get the video playback03:55
marianobut there is no sound on the playback03:56
lbb_mariano: thx!03:56
marianolbb did it work?03:56
marianofor you?03:56
excitatorymariano: chances are your sound card is teh suck.. or in other words, old and doesn't have hardware mixing..and thus you'll have to rely on software mixing or spend the 12 bucks on a modern sound card.03:56
jerpmariano, I've got an amd64 so it probably won't work anyways huh?03:57
marianomy sound card is a m-audio mobile pre03:57
marianoit is quite up to date03:57
excitatoryhrm03:57
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excitatoryyea.. laptops are a beast i am unfamiliar with.03:57
marianoi'm not sure amd64. I read something about there being other solutions for the 64bit platform03:58
marianoI think mplayer might do it03:58
marianothats what i've read thus far03:58
marianonot sure though03:58
lbb_mariano: don't know, I cannot boot into my OS atm03:58
lbb_anyone know how to unhide a partition, it is hidden by hide(hd0,1) in grub, but unhide(hd0,1) gives me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"03:58
marianook, i'm going to try this link's remedy03:59
marianoi'll let you guys know if it works within a few minues03:59
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jerpwhen I use the gnash plugin I can see the fiel start as if a lighter shade of grey on the viewing area happens, but ends before it starts.03:59
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tomlinsif I download libvisual for Amarok, where do I place/install it ?04:02
_kuja_why not install the libvisual package?04:03
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tomlinsi am a linux noob, how to do that ?04:03
excitatorytomlins: your package manager is your friend04:04
tomlinsah04:04
excitatorytomlins: adept or apt-get04:04
tomlinsapt-get libvisual ?04:04
ForgeAusI'm a linux noobie 2... how do I change my screen res without getting the power manager crashing from withing VMware?04:05
_kuja_*apt-get install libvisual04:05
excitatorytomlins: sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0  or just search adept04:05
tomlinsi give that a try, thanks :)04:05
excitatory_kuja_: careful, 'libvisual' is not a package04:05
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_kuja_indeed04:05
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_kuja_libvisual-0.4.0, libvisual-0.4.0-plugins04:06
jerpforge, look in the control center04:06
marianonothing04:06
marianodamn flash04:06
marianoplayer04:06
marianoI dont want to go back to windows04:06
marianoahhh, ok I have to figure this out04:06
jerpforge, if you're in Kubuntu .... open system settings04:07
tomlinsk, i tried 'sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0' and it said libvisual-0.4-0 is already the newest version.04:07
jerpforge, Hardware/Display04:07
excitatorytomlins: then it's already installed.04:07
tomlinsseems like it, but when i try visualization in Amarok it says no plugin installed04:08
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eilkerlinux cant see hda6 which is ext3 , i just created it in xp via partition magic04:08
_kuja_install libvisual-0.4-plugins04:08
excitatoryyep04:08
ForgeAustried that jerp04:08
tomlinsk04:09
eilkerwhat can i do ? what is it releated with ?04:09
_kuja_eilker, if it really exists, parted will agree with you. sudo parted /dev/hda print04:10
ForgeAusjerp the system settings display applet must be dependant on the power manager somehow... (or at least use it)04:10
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tomlinsok, that did something04:10
tomlinsi restart Amarok and see if it made any difference04:10
_kuja_kay04:10
eilker_kuja_: it is processing04:11
eilker_kuja_: does it take time  ?04:11
marianotomlins let me know if you are successful with the vizualization04:11
marianoI am having the same problem04:11
tomlinsSUCCESS !04:11
_kuja_eilker ... never takes time when I do it ... then again, my system is rather fast04:11
eilker_kuja_: it says hda is in use04:12
tomlinsgreat, thanks peeps !04:12
marianotomlins04:12
marianowhat did you do04:12
eilker_kuja_: i have qtparted04:12
_kuja_eilker, did it print out the partition table?04:12
tomlins sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-plugins04:12
tomlinsthen restarted Amarok04:12
eilker_kuja_: no it didnt04:13
ForgeAuswhats sudo btw? just curious04:13
eilker_kuja_: now qtparted works04:13
_kuja_eilker, qtparted is a frontend to libparted. parted is the cli version ... if you had copied and pasted the command I gave into a terminal it should have printed out he partition table. If it didn't, something may be astray.04:13
_kuja_tomlins, that's great :)04:13
tomlinsyep :)04:13
tomlinsverycool indeed04:13
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eilker_kuja_: qtparted shows it, but when i say df -h , i cant see it.04:14
Cygnus-Xhi, i need some help04:14
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Cygnus-Xi have this error using adept  "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "04:14
marianonice04:15
marianothat worked04:15
ForgeAusWhats a linux distro based on rpm's with gnome? (which I figure is pretty much opposite from KDE-based Debian like Kubuntu04:15
marianoit was that parted part that worked eh?04:15
_kuja_eilker, why not just reformat the partition, if nothing's on it. Could save you some trouble.04:15
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marianoman flash is driving me crazy04:15
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eilker_kuja_: how can i ? i even cant see it...04:16
eilker_kuja_: ohh ok :)04:17
_kuja_can you see it now?04:17
eilker_kuja_: no04:17
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excitatoryForgeAus: why you would want rpm is beyond me, but Fedora Core and OpenSuSE come to mind.. mandriva also..04:17
eilker_kuja_: but i can format it with qtparted04:17
Cygnus-Xsome help?04:17
eilker_kuja_: right ?04:17
_kuja_eilker: right04:18
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yamathan!kde04:18
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE04:18
_kuja_eilker: I would do it from a live cd if I were you though04:18
yamathan!themes04:18
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy04:18
ForgeAusyeah mandriva sounds like something I could try04:18
_kuja_eilker: it's best to do it when no partitions on the disk are mounted.04:18
ForgeAus(I'm just getting used to linux to begin with04:18
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yamathan!changethemes04:18
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=304:18
yamathanDon't you just love automatic answers?04:19
ForgeAusabout all I know about *nix in general is it uses ls instead of dir command to display directories! (lol and even then some have a dir)04:19
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_kuja_The bot isn't quite an all knowing google, but is very nice indeed :)04:19
eilker_kuja_: could u look at my fstab ? because i write it manually...?04:19
_kuja_eilker: sure04:19
excitatoryForgeAus: well, what's wrong with *ubuntu?04:19
_kuja_!pastebin04:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:20
Cygnus-XThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.04:20
excitatoryCygnus-X: argh.. please don't paste flood.. anyway, did you at least try it again?  restart adept, then try it.04:21
eilker_kuja_: here it is, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37859/ , the problem : i cant see hda6 when i type "df -h"04:21
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jerpforgeAus, this forum entry says to manually change xorg stuff.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397304:22
_kuja_eilker: looks fine to me04:22
eilker_kuja_: ahaa, it is not mounted...??04:22
eilker_kuja_: i didnt mount it04:22
_kuja_sudo mount /media/hda604:22
excitatoryForgeAus: seriously, you don't want an rpm-based distro.. it will only drive you insane04:23
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eilker_kuja_: sudo mount /dev/hda6 /media/hda6    ??04:23
ForgeAusexitatory, Linux in general drives me insane :) but its ok04:23
_kuja_If it's in your fstab, you don't have to type the whole thing in04:23
ForgeAusI want to test both sides of the  fence before making a choice, still I think I like Kubuntu sofar04:24
ForgeAusjust a few thigns I can't do with it yet04:24
_kuja_you only have to type sudo mount <device OR sudo mount <mountpoint>04:24
excitatoryForgeAus: like what, maybe we can help?04:24
_kuja_ForgeAus: sanity is overrated anyway04:25
excitatoryForgeAus: (it's funny.. i can barely be on windows for a few minutes without getting worked up)04:25
eilker_kuja_: mount: there is no mopunt point /media/hda604:25
eilker_kuja_: mount: there is no *mount point /media/hda604:25
_kuja_eilker: sudo mkdir /media/hda604:25
flaccidnice04:25
yamathanArgh!04:26
excitatoryAvast!04:26
eilker_kuja_: i see it in konqueror media:/hda6/lost+found04:27
yamathanIs there any pancea to switching themes?04:27
yamathanDo I really have to do it component-by-component?  D:04:27
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eilker!lost+found04:28
ubotulost+found is where !fsck places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.04:28
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_kuja_eilker: is it working now?04:29
excitatoryyamathan: no, you can find complete themes.. but if you were to do it piece by piece, it's only like 4 or 5 pieces04:29
eilker_kuja_: yes :)04:29
yamathanThat's true, but I'm a total newb.  ;s04:29
_kuja_I thought so, it's just empty. Up to you to fill it up :)04:29
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eilker_kuja_: thanx, let me reboot, may be it has speed problem, to access and see other medias..04:30
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dettoaltrimentiwhat is the kde equivalent of gksudo?04:31
eilkerkdesu04:31
dettoaltrimentithanks04:31
eilkernp04:31
dettoaltrimenti!kdesu04:33
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:33
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ForgeAusexcit worked up about what? I guess I'm used to windows04:36
ForgeAuscoming from Dos -> windows background04:36
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ForgeAusbut I'd like to fiddle more with OSX and Linux distros04:37
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dettoaltrimentiwhat is the name of the program that saves whatever is running when you log out, then opens it when you log back in? session manager?04:37
_kuja_k-menu -> save session04:38
notechexcit?04:38
notechoh, abbreviated nick04:38
ForgeAusnotech it was a username abbreviation04:38
ForgeAuslol yeah04:38
ForgeAusalso the problem I'm having is probably caused somehow by VMware04:38
dettoaltrimentiI don't see save session.... is it 'lock session'?04:38
ForgeAusits just messing up the display applet in the system settings04:39
ForgeAusit causes a power management crash04:39
yamathanWait a minute ...04:39
yamathanKubuntu doesn't support .kth files, does it?04:39
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Chanihmm, that sounds familiar04:40
_kuja_dettoaltrimenti ... it's in my kmenu, so that's odd04:40
Chaniyamathan: kde-look has some sort of distro-agnostic thingy maybe?04:40
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yamathanI THOUGHT they would, but NO.  :P04:41
dettoaltrimentimaybe I'm missing the package? does it have a name I can search for in adept? _kuja_04:41
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yamathanhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2639204:41
_kuja_dettoaltrimenti, I'll check04:42
dettoaltrimentithank you04:42
eilker_kuja_: yes it works, now i wanna mount to /mnt/extra  , " sudo mount /media/hda6 /mnt/extra "  or " sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra " ?04:42
_kuja_eilker, just change it in your fstab, umount it, and then remount it04:43
_kuja_don't forget to create the /mnt/extra folder04:43
eilkeri have it04:43
_kuja_dettoaltrimenti, I'm not positive, but it might be this package:04:44
_kuja_ksmserver - session manager for KDE04:44
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phobiac!grub04:44
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:44
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eilker1* sudo umount /media/hda6  2* /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1  3* sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra " ?  is it ok ?04:46
eilker2* will be done in fstab04:46
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dettoaltrimenti_kuja_ tried uninstalling and reinstalling- is there a way I can launch the session manager from a terminal?04:47
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Chanidamnit, of course he leaves as soon as I get the theme installed04:49
_kuja_dettoaltrimenti, I'll check a couple of things. It should show up in the kmenu, *should*04:49
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_kuja_chani: that's life04:50
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phobiacchani: issues with a theme?04:50
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Chaniphobiac: someone else had issues. I just downloaded, extracted and clicked the .kth file and it worked04:51
phobiacOh04:51
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eilker_kuja_: am i ok? 1* sudo umount /media/hda6            2* /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1               3* sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra " ?  is it ok ?04:52
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_kuja_dettoaltrimenti: try checking the session manager section in kcontrol, I'm not sure if it shows up in systemsettings or not (thus another example of my frustration with systemsettings)04:53
Chanioh, the theme manager is something that doesn't show up in systemsettings04:53
_kuja_eilker: should be okay04:53
ChaniI really hope someone finds a way to make kcontrol less of a mess in kde404:53
_kuja_Chani: another great example04:53
DaSkreechWhen is the gif copyright up?04:54
_kuja_Chani: I find kcontrol okay ... ever since that little filter box showed up ... or was that there all along? I don't remember04:54
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_kuja_DaSkreech: I thought it was a patent, wasn't it?04:55
DaSkreechRight that thing :)04:55
marianoman,  still no luck with this flash04:55
marianoanyone else in here had this issue before04:55
eilker_kuja_: done:) thanx again04:56
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_kuja_eilker: You're welcome.04:56
DaSkreechmariano: Check the forums04:56
marianoI have04:56
marianodid the manual install and nothing04:56
jessiehello all04:56
_kuja_hello04:56
phobiacmariano: What's the issue with flash you're having?04:57
marianono sound04:57
marianoI get the video but no sound comes out04:57
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jessiehey anybody know what a good program is to make flash videos?04:57
matthewmariano, look around in /etc/firefox for firefoxrc04:57
matthewchange "auto" or whatever is listed for "aoss"04:58
msak007hey everybody04:58
matthewmariano, you may need to do a "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss"04:58
DaSkreech_kuja_: 11th Aug 2006 :)04:58
phobiacmariano: Hmm, only similar bug I get is that flash movie will just stop working for me. Games will lose their sound too.04:58
marianolet me try the also oss04:58
marianomaybe that will work04:59
matthewmariano, hope so04:59
ChaniI thought the gif patents had already expired04:59
DaSkreechChani: Yeah I just realised04:59
marianomathew, will I need to logout04:59
DaSkreech how come no one told me :(04:59
matthewmariano, no04:59
_kuja_DaSkreech, good news :)04:59
matthewmariano, only restart firefox04:59
Chanimariano: flash with no dound? ff or konq?04:59
matthewmariano, I'm assuming you're using firefox04:59
DaSkreechYeah now if people would get off thier butts and use teh PNG animation extension we could kill gifs05:00
marianoyes05:00
Chanithere's a specific setting I always needed for konq05:00
marianofirefox 2.005:00
matthewmariano, cool, this should/might work05:00
marianonope did not work05:00
ChaniI've no idea how to make FF use artsd for sound05:00
jessiehey anybody know what a good program is to make flash videos?05:00
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_kuja_DaSkreech ... which extensions would those be?05:00
matthewmariano, try "alsa"05:00
ChaniI wonder if 'artsdsp firefox' would work05:01
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Chanioss? wha? tghat's deprecated, afaik05:01
jestercan somebody help me?05:02
_kuja_Chani: not likely, firefox is likely a shell script, in which case you'd have to alter the shell script to open the binary with artsdsp, likely near the last line of said script.05:02
_kuja_At least, that's the case with Opera05:02
matthewalsa-oss05:02
_kuja_jester: Probably05:02
Chanievil.05:02
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matthewChani, do you have a solution?05:02
marianono sound05:02
marianostill05:02
jesteri need a good program to make flash videos/games05:02
ChaniI had a game that ran from a script that could be wrapped with artsdsp, sorta, sometimes... it was weird05:02
matthewmariano, try logging out and back in again.05:02
DaSkreech_kuja_: The mozilla corp realized that MNG's sucked and decided to incorperate an optional extension to PNG's that would, if the browser supported it, show animation if not then it would show the fist frame of animation statically05:02
Admiral_Chicagojojay: windows blows at hardware support05:03
marianook05:03
_kuja_Oh yes, MNG, that thing that never took off05:03
DaSkreechYeah05:03
matthewAdmiral_Chicago, I haven't found that to be true at all.05:03
DaSkreechI'm not talking about MNG though I'm talking about an extension to PNG05:03
Chanimatthew: nope. I don't use FF any more. but if mariano is using kde, might it be artsd hogging hte soundcard? wouldn't you need to get FF to use artsd?05:03
jester_kuja_ i need a good program to make flash videos/games05:03
matthewChani, I don't really know. I'm just saying what worked for me.05:04
Chanik05:04
_kuja_I've no idea if one exists or not jester. I thought that was a proprietary Adobe/macromedia thing.05:04
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jesterdang. ill just have to try using wine05:04
marianonope, no sound05:05
Chanimariano: what options does FF have for sound? do you see anything that mentions arts?05:05
Admiral_Chicagomatthew: jojay has laptop. Windows didn't detect his wireless OR ethernet port05:05
_kuja_systemsettings -> sound system -> hardware, try changing the audio device to alsa?05:05
matthewmariano, try switching back to "aoss" and logging in and out.05:05
marianochani where can I check those options05:05
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu detected it05:05
matthewAdmiral_Chicago, oh, ok. I've never really played w/ lappys05:05
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Admiral_Chicagoby default i'm broke05:06
matthewlol, one more reason to use linux05:06
eilkercan i mount my laptops'(xp+suse box) dvd writer to my pc (xp-kubuntu box) . pc and laptop behind a same dsl router. is it possible ?05:06
Chanimariano: umm... FF must have a settings option somewhere in its menu. I haven't used it in a while05:06
Admiral_Chicagoyea free...05:06
matthewAdmiral_Chicago, yup05:06
jesterbanshee won't run. i click the icon for it and it tries to open it, but it doesn't. in terminal it just sits there after "banshee"05:07
jesterany help05:07
matthewmariano, I cannot help you anymore. sorry.05:07
matthewno more knowledge available from me. lol05:07
eilker!wine05:07
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:07
Chanimariano: whatever it was that matthew was suggesting you set to oss, does that have an arts option?05:08
matthewChani, it's an etc, he can set it to anything.05:08
marianonop05:08
marianoe05:08
Chanimariano: ohh.05:08
matthewetc == editable text file05:08
ChaniI'm used to going through guis these days :)05:08
matthewChani, lol, me too...always good to know what goes on under the hood, though.05:09
marianowell, i'm switching to alsa under the sound system and logging out05:09
marianomaybe that will do05:09
jesterbanshee won't run. i click the icon for it and it tries to open it, but it doesn't. in terminal it just sits there after "banshee"05:10
jesterany help05:10
marianoif not, my but is going to have to move back to windows for a while05:10
matthewmariano, hpe so.05:10
Chanimatthew: true.05:10
marianobrb05:10
matthewjester, try killall banshee05:10
matthewthen try to open it again05:10
Chanimariano: if you're not too attached to FF, why not try the flash website in knoq?05:10
Chani*konq05:10
_kuja_Hm, it shouldn't have required him to log out at all, oh well, too late to tell mariano that now.05:11
Chaniargh. my mum is making me shop for my own xmas present05:11
matthew_kuja_, yeah, now that I think about it, you're right...my bad05:11
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matthewChani, well, that's good, if you can spend a lot of money...hers, of course05:11
jestermatthew, tried that. it opens the flash screen, but nothing more.05:11
ChaniI'm starting to wonder exactly what settings he's changing...05:11
Chanimariano: if you're not too attached to FF, why not try the flash website in knoq?05:12
matthewjester, ok, I'm out of ideas, lol :P05:12
marianotry what?05:12
Chanimatthew: she doesn't really have much money. both of us are getting money from dad. which makes the whole thing seem rather pointless to me05:12
marianoknoq?05:12
matthewChani,ah, that sucks...05:12
Chanimariano: typo! meant konq05:12
matthewkonqueror05:13
marianokonq wont play sound either05:13
VR_is edgy advised in favor of dapper right now?05:13
DaSkreechVR_: What do you want in a system?05:14
matthewmariano, starting to think this is the plugin...05:14
VR_i want it to work05:14
marianowell, konq  wont even play the video05:14
matthewmariano, are you using flash 9 beta or beta 2?05:14
marianoi've never used  konq05:14
marianohm I believe is beta 205:15
matthewhmmm...mine works...05:15
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marianohow do I install the plugin into konq05:15
matthewVR_, what problems are you having?05:15
marianothat will be fine05:15
matthewmariano, no idea05:15
matthewtalk to Chani about that05:15
marianoI just need to be able to play flash videos in  one way or another05:15
DaSkreechVR_: Dapper05:15
marianochani you still in here05:15
jestermatthew, ill try listen instead05:15
VR_matthew: i cant really put my finger on it. dapper feels more stable somehow, but i like, say, amarok more in edgy05:16
matthewjester, huh?05:16
DaSkreechVR_: are you using it as a Desktop?05:16
VR_DaSkreech: yeah05:16
DaSkreechVR_: Anything mission critical?05:16
matthewjester, you may want to give kaffeine a shot.05:16
VR_DaSkreech: nope05:17
matthewjester, sudo apt-get install kaffeine05:17
matthewif you want05:17
ForgeAuswhats the difference?05:17
DaSkreechVR_: Then edgy :)05:17
matthewForgeAus, between what?05:17
compilerwriterCan anyone tell me if it is possible for me to share a device that is on another Winblows machine in my network or am I going to have to ftp from one box to another?05:17
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ForgeAusdapper vs edgy? it appears the Kubuntu I'm using is edgy05:17
DaSkreechI think it's nearly as polished as Dapper and the only gotcha is upstart05:17
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matthewForgeAus, one of the major differences is the upstart system05:17
marianoChani hit me up when you're available. Maybe you can hel me set up the flash player on konq05:17
matthewa new way of loading linux...it's faster. I think05:18
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DaSkreechIt will be in Feisty05:18
DaSkreechas promised :)05:18
matthewI thought it was in edgy...05:18
jestermatthew, i've got kaffeine. i dont really like the begining page, etc.05:18
matthewboy, I feel foolish...05:18
_kuja_Currently upstart is not a major change ... it's just emulating sysvinit05:18
matthewjester, the beginning page?05:19
DaSkreech_kuja_: When it is truly upstart will it break sysv?05:19
matthewjester, you mean the bean?05:19
_kuja_Break? No, replace, yes? I believe.05:20
jestermatthew, i've got kaffeine. i dont really like the begining page, etc.05:20
Chanimariano: give me a few mins... I've done flash with konq lotsa times.05:20
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matthewjester, what do you mean?05:20
marianothanks man05:20
jesterthe page with "Play VCD, Play Audio CD, etc." if there was a way to change this, i might like it more.05:21
_kuja_Also, some people experience a bit of a speedup in the startup time if they edit a certain line in the /etc/init.d/rc file, by changing the concurrency line to concurrency=shell instead of concurrency=none05:22
_kuja_I didn't personally see any difference though ...05:22
matthewjester, if you open a media file, it will automatically begin playing it.05:22
matthewjester, no beginning page...05:22
matthewjester, are you saying you don't like having options? lol05:22
jesteri dont know. just like amorok better.05:23
_kuja_I do believe with regards to kaffeine you can turn off the go tab altogether, if you wanted to05:23
jesteroh, that would be nice05:23
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Chanimariano: ok, I'm bac05:25
marianook05:25
_kuja_jester, at least you could in dapper, I'm having trouble finding the option in edgy05:25
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marianoi'm ready05:25
Chanimariano: open konq, go to settings -> configure konqueror05:25
Chanimariano: scroll down through the stuff on hte left until you find 'plugins'05:25
marianok05:26
marianothere05:26
Chaniclick 'scan for new plugins'05:26
marianodiscard or save05:26
Chanioh?05:26
Chanidiscard what?05:27
marianodiscard changes or save05:27
Chanineither!05:27
Chaniclick hte 'plugins' tab just above that button05:27
marianook05:27
Chaninow do you see something under 'netscape plugins'?05:27
marianoyes05:28
Chanithe libflashplayer thing, right?05:28
marianoyes05:28
Chanicheck hte box for 'use artsdsp...'05:28
Chaniand then save.05:28
marianoit is checked05:28
marianoit is already checked05:29
Chaninow try a flash site again05:29
marianonothing, no video and no sound05:29
marianoit just goes black05:30
Chaniack :(05:30
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Chanihuh.05:30
Chaniblackness.. I had that problem when I tried installing hte gpl'd flash plugin as well as the proprietary one05:30
Chanibut, first, what version of kubuntu are you using?05:30
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mariano6.1005:31
Chaniedgy, right?05:31
marianoit is kubuntu 6.10 yea, it has the mint package though05:31
ChaniI'm in the middle of a dist-upgrade, so if there are bugs in edgy I wouldn't know05:31
marianoit suppose to have all the codecs installed05:32
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marianooh really?05:32
marianowould you suggest I go back to the previous version?05:32
ChaniI'd suggest going into adept, search for flash; you should find two flash plugins. one gpl and one non-gpl. if the gpl one is installed, remove it05:32
marianoI have the non free one05:32
intelikey /etc/rcS.d/S77winkeys: line 8: killall: command not found      hmmmm psutils procutils ???05:33
Chanimariano: but do you have only that, or both?05:33
marianojust that05:33
Chanimariano: I had the issue when I instaled both05:33
Chanioh, darn05:33
Chaniyou're sure?05:33
marianoyea, there are other flash players installed though05:33
marianognash05:33
_kuja_intelikey, how about /usr/bin/killall?05:35
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Chanimariano: I'm running out of ideas :(05:35
compilerwriterWould someone walk me through a ssh session with one of my other boxes in my home network?05:35
marianook05:35
marianoits cool05:35
SeanWHello Everyone05:35
marianoI might have to go back to suse or windows05:35
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marianoi've been working on this all weekend05:35
Chanimariano: I don't *think* the other flash players would interfere...05:36
marianoi'm backed up on some work05:36
marianoits cool05:36
Chanimariano: evil :( flash works for me...05:36
marianomaybe i'll try the next release of kubuntu05:36
intelikey_kuja_ what supplies that ?05:36
marianolol05:36
ChaniI hope it doesn't break for me after this dist-upgrade :P05:36
marianoyea! well i'm off05:36
_kuja_psmisc, I think05:36
Chanibut there's no mention of flash on the known problems list05:36
marianothanks for your help man05:36
mariano:)05:36
intelikeyk05:37
SeanWDoes anyone know why windows won't detect errors on my hdd and installs fine when both ubuntu and kubuntu detect errors?05:37
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knappHey guy. I'm trying to do "apt-get build-dep ffmpeg", but when I do I get 'E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_plf_dists_edgy-plf_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)'05:38
knappAnyone know what I can do to fix that?05:38
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_kuja_knapp, that's certainly odd.05:38
the-ermHas anyone ever had a problem with a computer not booting from cd, even tho the bios clearly has the cd first in the list?05:39
compilerwriterHiya _kuja_ your pupils is ready to learn05:39
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_kuja_Teach me oh mighty ssh manual :)05:39
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_kuja_It'll take me a little while to figure out what I'm doing with it I'm sure05:40
lupine_85knapp: apt-get clean?05:40
knappI'll try that05:40
marianokonq has picture now, but no sound05:41
marianolol05:41
marianofunny05:41
lupine_85you'll need to apt-get update afterwards05:41
marianothats a bit of progress05:41
_kuja_an apt-get update would help too. I think it said that it was missing the sources file from the repository .. or some such.05:41
knappI did apt-get update05:41
knappbefore05:41
knappstill having that problem, I will try apt-get clean in a sex05:41
knappsec*05:41
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Chanimariano: weeeird05:42
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Chanimariano: btw, is this happening with *all* flash stuff from any site?05:42
marianoyea05:42
marianogoogle05:42
marianodl.tv05:42
marianoall thus far05:42
SeanWDoes anyone know why windows won't detect errors on my hdd and installs fine when both ubuntu and kubuntu detect errors?05:43
marianowell, i'm going to go try to install suse, maybe that will work ok05:43
marianoi just hate that eternal bootup05:43
lupine_85mariano: what's the "plugin use artsd" set to?05:43
_kuja_SeanW: Maybe Windows isn't very smart?05:43
SeanWit's almost as if ntfs works fine but ext3 wont work05:43
ForgeAusI wish I had have known it was going to be a 23mb file aptget wanted tho lol05:43
marianoah05:43
marianolet me see05:43
ForgeAusI prolly need to upgrade my distro05:43
knapplupine_85, tried clean still giving the same error. Apt-get update showed some GPG key error.05:44
SeanW_kuja_: I'd have to agree with you05:44
marianounder konq05:44
mariano?05:44
marianolupine i'm kind of lost05:44
mikeWhere do i find win32,vlc,mplayer etc?05:44
_kuja_SeanW: If ext3 won't work, your drive might not be in terribly good shape, who knows. What errors was it giving you?05:44
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marianoI have that use to pipe plugin sound through arts checked05:45
_kuja_SeanW: if ext3 won't work, and ntfs5 will, perhaps you should try reiser, or jfs, or xfs, or ext2?05:45
SeanW_kuja_: Installing used to work fine but it jsut stopped working. I used to dual windows and ubuntu but then I had a hal.dll error05:45
lupine_85knapp: ok, how about sudo apt-cache gencaches ?05:45
lupine_85mariano: and in kde control panel->sound , is artsd enabled?05:45
SeanW_kuja_: which do you recommend?05:45
lupine_85("KDE Sound System")05:45
_kuja_I personally use xfs.05:45
lupine_85I have it enabled with a 1-second turn off05:45
_kuja_The others work fine though. Keep in mind that ext2 doesn't use journaling.05:46
SeanW_kuja_: I'll have to check that out. I'll have to manually partition then, won't I?05:46
ChaniSeanW: if your hard drive has issues, maybe you should get a new one before it gets worse?05:46
_kuja_SeanW: Yeah05:46
marianolet me check05:46
SeanWChani: I would but us poor college kids need food :(05:47
knapplupine_85 nope05:47
ChaniSeanW: ahh. :( it not under warranty or anything?05:47
marianowould arts be enabled if I have checked the  "enable the sound system" box05:47
marianoit doesnt say arts05:47
SeanW_kuja_: Thanks for the help05:47
Chanimariano: yes05:47
lupine_85same error message?05:47
marianobut that little box is checked05:47
_kuja_You could probably pick up a hard drive pretty cheap off of newegg. I think the one I've got is running for about $8005:47
lupine_85mariano: yep05:47
marianook, it is enabled05:47
knappyeah05:47
lupine_85is anything else using sound at the same time?05:47
SeanWChani: I don't think it is anymore. This is the third one though..HP keeps sending me the same kind and they keep going bad05:47
ChaniSeanW: oh dear. umm.. well, it is nearly xmas :)05:48
lupine_85if anything uses ALSA, artsd can't take control... in which case, you should (probably) tell konq. to stop using it05:48
marianonope05:48
lupine_85knapp: one minute05:48
marianobut, i'm  pressing the test sound and I get  no sound05:48
Chanimariano: well, that's bad05:48
marianohowever, I do get sound if I play music on amarok05:48
marianoor stuff like thats05:48
_kuja_SeanW: do you need a SATA or an IDE drive, I'll see what I can dig up that's cheap05:48
SeanWChani: I'm a music student though so when I get enough money I'll get a mac :) Haha, yeah, christmas it may be but my dad is in between jobs05:48
mikew32 in kubuntu?05:48
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SeanW_kuja_: I believe it's an IDE but I'm not sure05:49
SeanW_kuja_: It's an internal 100gig toshiba05:49
_kuja_100gig? Probably an IDE drive.05:49
lupine_85knapp: what were you doing before you broke it? ;)05:49
knapp:O05:49
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lupine_85personally, I would remove the PLF repo at this point and try to update again05:50
knappI don't know. I haven't issued a build-dep in awhile05:50
Chanimariano: maybe try disabling hte sound system, clicking apply, then enabling it again? iirc that should restart artsd. worth a try05:51
marianotrue05:51
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marianolet me try05:51
marianostill no sound05:51
_kuja_SeanW: how about this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682214809505:51
SeanWwow, that is cheap05:52
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RoKFiTi'm having a problem.  I'm suffering from audio popping and I've installed a new COMPATABLE sound card and the issue persists!05:52
knapplupine_85, I'll give it a shot. If it doesn't work I will have to figure this one out tomorrow. Thank you for the help.05:52
SeanW_kuja_: I was saving for a violin but I guess this takes precidence, huh..haha05:52
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SeanW_kuja_: I forgot to mention im on an hp pavilion notebook, but thanks for the help :) I'll keep looking. I'm going to try to find toshiba's disk tools05:53
_kuja_ohhhhhhhh05:53
_kuja_You forgot to mention it was a notebook ...05:53
SeanWhaha, yeah, my bad05:53
SeanWmakes things a tad more expensive05:54
SeanWI have a 250gig external though05:54
goodthingDaSkreech: are you there? I now installer dapper and attached the disk afterwards, it behaves differently with on thing worth mentioning: when i put one of the maxtor specific at SATA3 it boots BUT my passwrd to login always fails.(!) When i disconnect that disk, my passwrd is working again.05:54
DaSkreechreally?05:54
DaSkreechHow does it fail?05:54
goodthingyeah 100%05:55
goodthingit says my passwrd is wrong, just that05:55
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goodthingand when i switch the disk, i have another error05:55
goodthingwith more output that is05:55
goodthingi will upload it05:55
DaSkreechAh Ok05:56
matthew!pastebin05:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:56
DaSkreech I had someone today who said every time they puti nteh password the computer rebooted05:56
matthew!pastebin | goodthing05:56
ubotugoodthing: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:56
matthewDaSkreech, did that ever get resolved?05:56
_kuja_SeanW: It would really help to know if it was UltraATA 100 or ATA-6, here's an UltraATA 100 laptop drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682214437505:56
ChaniSeanW: I strongly suggest you find somewhere to back up your important data :) there must be free webspace around... and usb keys are pretty cheap now05:57
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DaSkreechmatthew: Don't know I had to leave as did londo405:57
matthewDaSkreech, that sucks05:57
Chanimy friend kept losing stuff 'cause he was working on a damaged hard drive05:57
matthewDaSkreech, any progress made?05:57
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SeanWChani: Yeah, i have it backed up on my external drive :)05:57
matthewMine too05:57
DaSkreechI gave an alternative to login which I hope helped05:57
goodthingDaSkreech: http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/2601/1000992nz0.jpg (sorry, is big)05:58
_kuja_SeanW: Here's the "equivalent" ATA-6: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682214437805:58
matthewgoodthing, that is about ugly.05:58
matthewgoodthing, is that the camera or the screen?05:59
SeanW_kuja_: Thanks.. I'll bookmark those. I'm looking on hp.com to find out which I have05:59
goodthingmatthew: i know, it's a bad camera which ghosts very fast when you only move a little, and i needed to be fast because of batteries.06:01
_kuja_That was about the cheapest UltraAta-100, but you can probably go cheaper with the ATA-6 drives if you wanted to, down to about $3006:01
matthewgoodthing, oh, ok...06:01
Jucatois there any other way, besides fdisk, to determine what filesystem a partition is formatted in?06:01
matthewgoodthing, I've had this happen to me as well...can't remember the problem...lol06:01
intelikeySeanW will lshw not tell you ?06:01
goodthingmatthew: i only just noticed it though, i took the picture and continued, but i can take it again if needed06:01
matthewJucato, cfdisk06:01
_kuja_Jucato, how about parted? :)06:01
ChaniJucato: I prefer cfdisk to fdisk06:01
Jucatook I'll check. thanks! :)06:02
matthewgoodthing, nope, I don't care...it's readable, but I can't help you with it...sorry06:02
goodthingthe same config on edgy gives another output http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7992/1000991xj9.jpg06:02
SeanWintelikey: I just run that in windows command prompt?06:02
matthewJucato, it's already installed on your system06:02
Chanioh boy. the dist-upgrade is finally installing stuff...06:02
Jucatothanks06:02
bLaZeD!newsgroup06:02
ubotuThere are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org06:02
intelikeyJucato fdisk wont tell you the fs type   only what the partition is marked as.   mount will tell the fs type06:03
intelikeySeanW sorry.  no i don't think windows has that.06:03
matthewChani, wow, the dist-upgrade worked? lol, mine hosed my computer06:03
Jucatowell, it's not yet mounted... so...06:03
_kuja_goodthing, you know it's a badthing if it's dropping you back to busybox. Like ugly bad.06:03
SeanWintelikey: Yeah, I didn't recognize that command06:03
Chanimatthew: it's still going. hasn't worked *yet*06:03
goodthingso it is weird, not to mention that i cannot find the first partition in /media/sda1 after i just have installed the whole system there06:03
Jucatohm... cfdisk...06:04
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Chani355mb free on the kubuntu partition :(06:04
ChaniI really need to switch to LVM06:04
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matthewChani, good luck...hope you backed up your stuff...If you have to reinstall, I would make a seperate partition for your /home...that way, whenever you install a new ubuntu, all your data is still there...06:04
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intelikeyJucato again cfdisk only reads the partition info  not the actual fs.06:04
goodthing_kuja_: well, it only happens when i use three disks, and one of the three need specific on a SATA connector06:05
Chanimatthew: I backed up the entire partition to some free space :)06:05
knappAnyone here know how I can add a codec to ffmpeg? For instance when I try to encode it says "Unknown codec aac"06:05
goodthingbut the passwrd thing is even more weird06:05
_kuja_goodthing, did you have any problems like this in dapper?06:05
goodthingyeah, this IS dapper06:05
Chanimatthew: and I have a gentoo partition on this comp, I can boot that if anything goes really wrong06:05
matthewChani...hope it works, lol06:05
_kuja_oh, it is, then how about edgy?06:06
goodthingi' ve just gone back from edgy06:06
matthewChani, that's good06:06
_kuja_Hmm, neither works eh? (sorry, I'm trying to get up to speed, but I still don't know all that has gone awry)06:06
Chanigoodthing: gone back? why?06:06
Jucatointelikey: oh ok... see, my problem is this. I format /dev/hdb8 initially as FAT32 during the installation. then I reformatted it using QtParted to ext3, but when I fdisk'ed it, it still said FAT32. I used mkfs.ext3 on it, and still the same result...06:06
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_kuja_Chani, there's the good, the bad, and the ugly. I'd say that goodthing's problem is the latter.06:07
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intelikeyJucato yes that's common.  you can change the partition information if you use cfdisk and just change the type06:07
goodthingwell, almost the same, the difference are those two URL' s to imageshack in one config(place hard disks) and in the other config edgy just sits and waits on "Waiting for root file system..."06:07
Chaniah bugger, I got the perl warning about setting locale failed06:08
Jucatointelikey: um.... you're familiar with cfdisk?06:08
goodthingChani: just to test, i was testing anyways06:08
intelikeyyes06:08
Chaniand now...06:08
Jucatointelikey: ok, I changed the partition type to 83 (Linux). what do I do to make that change stick? (if I choose quit, it doesn't save the changes...)06:09
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intelikeywrite06:09
Chanidpkg: libgl1-mesa: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request:06:09
Chanithis worries me06:09
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Jucatointelikey: it won't affect the other partitions?06:09
Chanimplayer, amarok and neverball all depend on that06:10
matthewroflmao @ Chani ....in a nice way06:10
intelikeyJucato no only what you change.06:10
Jucatook thanks :)06:10
_kuja_Then I wouldn't recommend removing it, chani06:10
intelikeynp06:10
robotgeekhow do keybindings work with kubuntu?06:10
Chani_kuja_: too late! apt only told me about this as it was removing it!06:11
goodthingi guess the only thing i can really do is backup my data from the two maxtors on the new disk, wipe the maxtors and put them in RAID1. It is just to hope that will work out OK06:11
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_kuja_reinstall it?06:11
Jucatointelikey: heh I'm always scared for those kind of stuff (partitioning/formatting)06:11
Chani_kuja_: I have to wait for the dist-upgrade to complete06:11
_kuja_Chani: Fun06:11
intelikeyJucato yes and for good reason06:11
Jucato:)06:11
Chaniohhh how I miss portage.06:12
goodthingbtw, anyone wrote down my problem?06:12
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goodthingi think it problem is the motherbord but who knows06:12
Jucatoanyway... time for lunch!!! :)06:12
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shawn_homeabattoir?06:13
shawn_home06:50  abattoir  Linux_Galore: work on kxdocker has stopped, i agree, but that's because stefano is working on XQDocker(for Qt/KDE4) ?06:13
_kuja_goodthing, it probably is a motherboard problem, sounds like one anyway06:13
shawn_homeso where's the code for XQDocker? :)06:13
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shawn_homecause there's no working docker :(06:13
abattoiri just got back06:13
shawn_homeabattoir: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/kubuntu-2006-09-24.html06:13
robotgeekhmm, where is the xmodmap file that kubuntu uses located?06:13
shawn_homelooking for something and tripped this on google ;)06:14
abattoirshawn_home: yes, i remember that clearly :)06:14
abattoirno need to refer to the logs06:14
shawn_homekxdocker 1.1.4 a i have working on ubuntu/debian, but its badly weird06:14
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shawn_homeim surprised it runs even06:14
shawn_homewith all the plugins needed06:14
RoKFiThello can anyone help me?  I'm getting audio popping on a freshly installed sound card!06:14
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shawn_homeabattoir: so whats a good macos X docker for ubuntu? that works? :)06:15
_kuja_RoKFiT, that's odd, does it do it when you're running the livecd too?06:15
abattoirshawn_home: are you running KDE4? :)06:15
shawn_homeksmoothdock chokes with compiz/beryl06:15
dettoaltrimentiI deleted kdewallet, but Kopete still asks me for the kdewallet password every time I start it- how can I keep this from happening?06:15
abattoirshawn_home: i use kxdocker and it works for me06:15
RoKFiT_kuja_: yes.06:15
intelikeyhmmmm oooops i think i just set my hardware clock to local time...06:15
shawn_homeabattoir: not yet, although i have the svn checked out06:15
abattoirshawn_home: hmm, i've heard a lot of kibadock, but i can't try it myself06:15
shawn_homekxdocker works but its not configurable easily06:15
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abattoir(as i don't have beryl running)06:15
_kuja_RoKFiT, does it do it with other speakers?06:15
RoKFiTi need a fix06:15
RoKFiTi'm using headphones, and yes06:15
shawn_homei have kibadock packages for ubuntu/deb, but it doesnt have task manager support06:15
shawn_homeso its lacking06:15
Chanidettoaltrimenti: *deleted*?06:16
_kuja_What was that other docker I heard of, kooldock?06:16
Chanidettoaltrimenti: that sounds bad.06:16
RoKFiT_kuja_: yes it does it with other headphones06:16
shawn_homekooldock with composite == broken06:16
Chanidettoaltrimenti: I believe there was a way to tell kopete not to store passwords in the wallet. just don't remember where06:16
shawn_homeso let's see: ksmoothdock, kibiadock, kxdocker, cairo-dock (works, but its 0.0.1b), kooldock..06:16
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shawn_homeso far.. nothing stable / usable :(06:17
_kuja_RoKFiT, hmmmm, Well, that's just lurvely. I've really no idea though.06:17
shawn_homecairo-dock lacks functionality but it works06:17
goodthing_kuja_: hmm, maybe just RMA the board, and let the shop take care of it?06:17
shawn_homedid I miss any? :)06:17
abattoirheh06:17
knappAnyone here know how I can add a codec to ffmpeg? For instance when I try to encode it says "Unknown codec aac"06:17
shawn_homeabattoir: im stuck with none ;/06:18
abattoirshawn_home: i compile kxdocker(with all the plugins) from source06:18
shawn_homekxdocker 1.1.4a works. but its pissy with configuration in gui06:18
_kuja_goodthing: I'm thinking it's the model of the board, not a problem with that specific board.06:18
shawn_homeabattoir: I have packages build (checkinstall) for the plugins06:18
shawn_homebuilt06:18
shawn_homehave to hack some code to add the missing headers for each one06:18
abattoirok, then i guess you'll have to get used to the gui :(06:18
shawn_homeit needs a good overhaul anyway, a -dev- package for one thing06:19
shawn_hometotal debianization needed06:19
_kuja_shawn_home, if they do choke with compiz/beryl, maybe they werne't designed to work with it?06:19
intelikeyabattoir blasphemy06:19
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shawn_homekxdocker has a patch for composite, which helps. but kxdocker doesnt work with xinerama and screens06:19
abattoirintelikey: used to 'the' gui, not get used to gui :)06:19
shawn_homeit seems to only want to be on the wrong screen (#2)06:19
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abattoirintelikey: meaning, kxdocker's configurator06:20
intelikeyoh  ok mybad.06:20
shawn_homethat configurator is.. horrid :(06:20
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intelikeywheeew !06:20
shawn_homewhats all this raw object stuff06:20
intelikey:)06:20
ubuntuHey all, It's SeanW again06:20
ubuntu_kuja_: Hey kuja06:20
shawn_hometotally unuserfriendly (new word)06:20
_kuja_Hi there ubuntu06:21
ubuntu_kuja_: I booted with the kubuntu live cd06:21
_kuja_or are you saying ubuntu = SeanW?06:21
ubuntu_kuja_: it's SeanW, the one.yeah06:21
_kuja_okie dokie06:21
shawn_homeso where's this new code for http://xqde.xiaprojects.com/  xqde?06:21
shawn_homei just see a webpage ;)06:21
goodthing_kuja_: so RMA will only do me good if i can get another type board which also can come with problems, o boy... and then i bought the disk at a shop who thinks it's normal to send used TFT's back as a replacement when you RMA. Even this board was already RMA' ed and used before i got it :(06:21
shawn_homeabattoir: I know his english isn't very good :(06:22
_kuja_shawn_home, google doesn't want to give an answer :(06:22
goodthingused TFT with scratches too06:22
abattoirshawn_home: i agree... but his code seems better :P06:22
shawn_homeneat 'you will noticed by bouncing mail icon when you receive new mails!'06:22
abattoirshawn_home: you'll probably see some code when kde4 is getting ready for release06:23
RoKFiTis it possible to install a windows codec for amarok?06:23
ubuntu_kuja_: I wonder if I can use some student loans for a mackbook pro...haha06:23
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shawn_homeabattoir: his code is ok, the gui isn't nor the XML mess :(06:23
ubuntu_kuja_: I'll have to pay it back eventually with interest though06:23
shawn_homeabattoir: im not sure what he is trying to do :)06:23
intelikey!codecs | RoKFiT06:23
ubotuRoKFiT: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:23
_kuja_goodthing: That's not a very fun situation then. What model is the motherboard? Hmmm, maybe you should see if another distribution will install flawlessly on it. Perhaps something with a newer kernel like FC606:23
goodthing_kuja_: asus a8n sli deluxe with BIOS version 101106:24
_kuja_ubuntu: Student loans are expensive :(06:24
abattoirshawn_home: anyways, i've tried most of the docks that i can try, and have found kxdocker to be the best... even though it lacks a lot06:24
ubuntu_kuja_: Yessir...I have them06:24
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shawn_homeabattoir: most of the functionality hides in the dcop plugin06:24
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ubuntu_kuja_: Well, im going to try to install kubuntu one last time.. wish me luck06:25
abattoirshawn_home: well, even the basic animation is not smooth here...06:25
_kuja_good luck :)06:25
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abattoirshawn_home: but still, it serves the purpose, so i use it06:25
shawn_homeabattoir: whats the *easiest* way to configure kxdocker?06:25
shawn_homeie can i do it via cli to add icons to the docker etc?06:25
shawn_homeif so, i can live with that06:25
abattoirshawn_home: i install all plugins, drag and ddrop icons06:25
abattoirshawn_home: then modify the xml file by hand and save a backup copy elsewhere06:26
shawn_homedrag /n drop doesnt seem to work for me06:26
shawn_homehrm06:26
abattoirit works if i drag entries for the kmenu06:26
dennisterhi abattoir, long time no see06:26
dettoaltrimentithe "save session" option doesn't appear in my k-menu- is there any other way to save the current session, or can I get that link to show up somehow?06:26
shawn_homeyou do not need kxdocker-data / resources ?06:26
abattoirhello dennister :)06:26
shawn_homeabattoir: is there a good howto on configuring that xml file anywhere?06:27
_kuja_dettoaltrimenti, can you take a look at what your settings are in kcontrol -> session manager?06:27
ubuntu_kuja_: argh.. I can hear the hard drive heads every once in a while06:27
goodthing_kuja_:  well, FC does not use debian packages right? Hmm, i have bad reminders of rpm...06:27
abattoirdettoaltrimenti: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager06:27
dennisteranyone need some help from a noob?06:27
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abattoirdettoaltrimenti: if you are in dapper System Settings -> KDE Components -> Session Manager06:27
dettoaltrimentiyes I see that. I'm on edgy06:27
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abattoirshawn_home: none that i know of :(06:28
shawn_homeabattoir: i have kxdocker, kxdocker-configurator, kxdocker-dcop, kxdocker-gdate, kxdocker-taskmanager, kxdocker-thememanager, kxdocker-trayiconlogger, kxdocker-wizard (doesnt work?)06:28
_kuja_goodthing: Right, I'm just wondering if it will install without giving you h*** If it does, I'd have you install Feisty Herd 1, which also uses the 2.6.19 kernel :)06:28
dettoaltrimentiah got it. thanks abattoir!06:28
shawn_homeabattoir: some plugins just work in 1.1.4a?06:28
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shawn_homewhich version are you using?06:28
abattoirshawn_home: ok, does kxdocker run? what icons do you see?06:28
shawn_home1.1.4a or 0.x?06:28
shawn_homeit runs, but the gui interface seems bustedish06:28
abattoirdettoaltrimenti: no problem06:28
shawn_homeie, grayed out l06:28
goodthing_kuja_: ahh, i see :)06:29
shawn_homeabattoir: the effects, wizard button06:29
abattoirshawn_home: all the tabs?06:29
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shawn_homeabattoir: the tabs are fine06:29
abattoirshawn_home: Rolling Icons are where all your icons go... is that enabled?06:29
shawn_homei think so06:29
shawn_homeyou have a good .xml config ? :)06:30
shawn_homethen i can tinker with that06:30
shawn_homeor manually add the icons once i know what to do06:30
abattoirshawn_home: ok, i'll pastebin it06:30
shawn_homemerci06:30
DaSkreechgoodthing: plus i think that fedora has yum now06:30
shawn_homeabattoir: which version are you using?06:30
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shawn_homeperhaps the 1.x.x version isn't finished06:30
ubuntu_kuja_: have you heard of anything that partitions the bad sectors together so that I can utilize the good parts of the drive? the drive would be crazy slow though wouldn't it...06:31
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abattoirshawn_home: 1.1.4a06:31
shawn_homeok same06:31
goodthingDaSkreech: sounds tasty, well let' s try that, download is already running06:31
shawn_homeabattoir: you did not compile resources ?06:31
RoKFiTwill there evere be w32codecs for AMD64?06:32
shawn_homeseems to duplicate some other files in the other tarballs06:32
abattoirshawn_home: i think i did06:32
DaSkreechgoodthing: Man that would have shot my week06:32
shawn_homeok06:32
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dennisterRoKFiT: why do u think it's needed? i had an amd64 installation, but w32codecs worked fine06:32
intelikeyubuntu maybe a quick read on   man badblocks   would be to your advantage06:33
_kuja_ubuntu: haven't heard of anything like that06:33
jebhohow do you boot the liveCD version of kubuntu for macs?06:33
RoKFiTwell how do i install them?06:33
dettoaltrimentiis there an easy way to turn on/off the pointing device on my laptop? for when I do/do not have a mouse06:33
_kuja_ubuntu: You might be able to find out which sectors of the disk are bad though ... and if so, avoid partitioning those sectors06:33
ForgeAusjeb, interesting question, I have no idea!06:33
RoKFiTdennister: i have all repos enabled and i can't find them with adept search06:33
dennisterRoKFiT: dpkg -i --force-architecture <path>w32codecs06:33
shawn_homeabattoir: ok, i have kxdocker reinstalled now06:34
RoKFiTwhat path?06:34
shawn_homenow it might be the .xml config the author bundles it with06:34
dennisteryou have to get it elsewhere than the repos06:34
shawn_homei know it doesnt properly find plugins without some changes06:34
RoKFiTlike where?06:34
abattoirhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37872/06:34
abattoirshawn_home: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37872/06:34
dennisteri'll do the search...have some ideas, hold on06:34
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intelikeydettoaltrimenti you could have two xorg.gonf files startx using the one for +pointer the other for -pointer06:35
abattoirshawn_home: change instances of /home/user to you user name06:35
shawn_homeyes06:35
intelikeydettoaltrimenti that could even be done automatically via an init script06:35
_kuja_ubuntu: I really can't recommend continued use of a bad disk for any longer than you have to though06:35
intelikeydettoaltrimenti or interactivly would brobably be easier.06:36
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dettoaltrimentiintelikey how do you mean06:36
_kuja_goodthing, with regards to the board you have, if you do try to rma it, see if you can get an a8n sli premium. Supposedly it has worked out some of the problems with the standard and the deluxe, besides that, it's a nicer board :)06:37
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shawn_homeabattoir: this gets copied to $HOME and /usr/share/apps/kxdocker?06:37
goodthing_kuja_: tnx!06:37
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shawn_homeor the system one is just nothing? :)06:38
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abattoirshawn_home: ~/.kde/share/apps/kxdocker/ and /usr/share/apps/kxdocker06:38
shawn_homeok06:38
shawn_homethought so06:38
abattoirshawn_home: i think it reads the one in the home folder first06:38
dennisterRoKFiT: http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/dists/dapper/non-free/06:38
shawn_homedone06:39
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touchscreenI'm trying to get my Aspen touchscreen to work with Kubuntu, but my limited driver knowledge of Linux is proving to be challenging. It connects VIA USB, and Aspen's site provides drivers for Mandrake, Fedora, and SUSE, but it isn't so kind as to tell us how to install them, or how to modify them for Ubuntu. Can someone please walk me through this? Thanks.06:39
dennisterRoKFiT: u still here?06:39
intelikeydettoaltrimenti setup one conf with the pointer and the other without   use a symlink to choose which   a quick  read -p "start X with blah" A ;[ "$A" = y ]  && ln -s WITH.conf xorg.conf || ln -s WO.conf xorg.conf       or at least a houndred other ways....06:39
RoKFiTdennister: Package:  w32codecs_20060611-0.0ubuntu0unofficial1_amd64.deb06:39
RoKFiTis that the right one06:39
RoKFiTyest im here please dont leave06:39
dennisteryes it is06:39
dettoaltrimentidoes gmail work in konqueror for anyone here? I am always redirected to the html only site- am I missing something?06:40
RoKFiTcan you explain to me why everything is windows codecs and why linux cannot play them without popping?06:40
dennistersave it and libdvdcss to a very safe place outside of your linux installation06:40
intelikeydettoaltrimenti you should probably make that time out also in case of un-attended boot06:41
_kuja_dettoaltrimenti, I think that's a result of google trying to be evil ... check that konqueror is identifying as something else like safari on the gmail site.06:41
abattoirdettoaltrimenti: you'll have to change the browser User Agent06:41
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RoKFiTdennister: The file or folder /var/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-0.0ubuntu0unofficial1_amd64.deb does not exist.06:41
compilerwriter!ssh06:41
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/06:41
abattoirdettoaltrimenti: Tools ->Browser Identification06:41
abattoirdettoaltrimenti: choose firefox/safari06:41
dennisterRokFit: you don't need  an amd64 version06:41
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shawn_homeit runs :)06:41
shawn_homewith lots of X error (BadMatch)06:42
intelikeydettoaltrimenti but i'm probably talking over you, aren't i....   sorry i'll hush.06:42
shawn_homeheh06:42
RoKFiTdennister: The file or folder /var/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-0.0ubuntu0unofficial1_i386.deb does not exist.06:42
bioticproHey yall, anybody here have experience with video playback on TV-out of an nvidia card? I am getting occasional choppy playback on all movies out of svideo06:42
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dennisterall you have to do is download the 32-bit version, and then install it using the --force-architecture option, ignore any warning messages06:42
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shawn_homeabattoir: im not sure what make float means06:42
dettoaltrimentiintelikey hey tried to send you a message but I'm not registered and don't know how.... I need to read a bit about 'symlink' and all that, didn't want to ask you things I could find out on my own. I'll probably ask you more questions about the same problem later ;)06:43
daft_manCan someone help me06:43
shawn_homesome icons appear to stay in dock some others go away if i dont lock them06:43
daft_manI just bought a new computer06:43
daft_manMove my hd over and boot up linux06:43
dennisterthat --force-architecture option is a godsend for amd64 users06:43
daft_maneverythin works fine except the networking06:43
abattoirshawn_home: where is it? which line?06:43
RoKFiTa godsend?06:43
_kuja_RoKFiT, rather than go through all this trouble, why not go to http://mplayerhq.hu and download the w32codecs, and put them in the folder /usr/lib/win32. Problem solved?06:43
shawn_homeabattoir: the menu options :)06:43
daft_mani can't connect to my router06:43
intelikeydettoaltrimenti /msg nickserv help06:43
daft_manwhat should I do?06:44
dennisterand I used it for w32 codecs and my printer in so many installations on amd64 systems it's not even funny06:44
RoKFiTso i want to launch the installer from a terminal with what options?06:44
_kuja_dpkg --install --forcearchitecture <package>06:44
shawn_homeabattoir: so you can drag icons to the dock and it adds them for you?06:44
dennisterit's very definitely safe for w32codecs06:44
dettoaltrimentiregister hello06:44
dennistertherey's a hypen in --force-architecture06:45
dettoaltrimentiah, ignore that please06:45
_kuja_typod06:45
_kuja_My fingers have failed me yet again06:45
abattoirshawn_home: yes, that's how most of those icons were added06:45
shawn_homedoes it change shape or anything mine just ignores the adds06:45
touchscreenAlright.. well I'm going to go check the forums and hope someone knows06:45
touchscreen:)06:45
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dennisterthey failed me to -->hypen06:45
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daft_manis there some sort of command I can use to set up my new network card?06:46
_kuja_daft_man, is it not picking it up out-of-the-box?06:47
daft_manit is picking it up when I typed lspci06:47
abattoirshawn_home: when you drag something, do you see it's icon?06:47
daft_manI dont want to run the setup disk again06:47
RoKFiTdennister: http://pastebin.ca/28467306:47
daft_manI just plug the new network card in06:47
daft_manlspci detects it06:47
shawn_homewell i see an icon being dragged to it, but its not appearing in it06:47
abattoirshawn_home: when you try to place it over another icon, you should get an 'X'(depending on your cursor theme)06:48
daft_manbut ping cant06:48
_kuja_systemsettings -> network settings -> play with things?06:48
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shawn_homenone..06:48
abattoirshawn_home: if you place it in a free area, you should see a little + icon06:48
RoKFiTdennister: are you there?06:48
shawn_homeperhaps I forgot to build a plugin?06:48
abattoirshawn_home: no, this is basic KDE06:48
dennisteryep, u're doing fine aka the pastebin...see that it worked06:48
RoKFiTnow what do i do?06:49
shawn_homelet me move the panel to the top06:49
_kuja_RoKFiT, after what?06:49
dennisteryou're done, honey, try to play something06:49
shawn_homehrm06:49
shawn_homeits not saving06:49
shawn_homeruns in.. an term...06:50
abattoirshawn_home: yeah, saving is a pain, make sure you make a backup of the .xml after saving06:50
abattoirshawn_home: else if you don't have session restore, it loads the older profile06:50
shawn_homeGrabbing the mouse failed with "AlreadyGrabbed"06:50
RoKFiTdennister: the mp3's are still popping06:50
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intelikeyabattoir edgy and fisty still use /etc/rcS.d/*  ?06:51
dennisterhmmm...what multimedia application r u using?06:51
RoKFiTamarok06:51
abattoirintelikey: i think so, yes06:51
dennisterusing kubuntu? edgy?06:51
intelikeyk06:51
RoKFiTyes06:51
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flaccidsounds normal _kuja_06:52
dennisterthat's really odd..."popping" as in crackly noises?06:52
RoKFiTyes06:52
_kuja_Does it do it with other files? What engine are you using for playback?06:52
shawn_homeoh well, i'll do it manually06:52
dennisterok, that has nothing to do with w32codecs...r u using xine engine?06:52
dennisterand alsa?06:52
_kuja_(by other, I mean non-mp3)06:52
RoKFiTyes other files too, xine06:52
RoKFiTand alsa, yes06:53
Admiral_ChicagoI need a non US user for a second06:53
Admiral_Chicagovolunteers?06:53
dennisterthat's with your sound setup then06:53
dennisterAdmiral_Chicago: canada here06:53
RoKFiTi just installed a sound card06:53
Admiral_Chicagodennister: http://www.getfirefox.com/06:53
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RoKFiTwhat else can i do?06:53
dylan_i am attempting to use the "write" command and it keeps telling me it has been turned off06:53
Admiral_Chicagowhat does this URL redirect to?06:53
dennisterk then it's the sound card RoKFiT06:53
goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: i am Dutch, is that well enough? :D06:54
RoKFiTit did it with onboard too i mean06:54
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Admiral_Chicagogoodthing: same thing http://www.getfirefox.com/06:54
RoKFiTonboard an today this sound card, both crackle06:54
Admiral_Chicagowhat does that redirect you to?06:54
Admiral_Chicagothe exact URL please06:54
_kuja_RoKFiT, does it do it with ogg files too?06:54
dennisterAdmiral_Chicago: i get http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/06:54
RoKFiTand this sound card is alsa supported06:54
RoKFiTyes and wav06:54
goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: it forwards to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/06:54
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dylan_is there a way to turn write "on"06:55
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Admiral_Chicagodennister & goodthing: are both your locales set to EN?06:55
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goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: no to NL06:56
_kuja_RoKFiT, does it do it with all audio-using applications you use?06:56
goodthingDutch06:56
dennisterRoKFiT: this is where I have to bow out...don't know anything about setting up sound cards, but it's defintiely not a problem with w32codecs06:56
RoKFiT_kuja_: yes06:56
dennisterAdmiral_Chicago: yes06:56
RoKFiTif i set to 48000khz do i need to restart for changes to take into effect?06:57
_kuja_RoKFiT, shouldn't need to06:57
RoKFiTokay then that does not fix it06:57
Admiral_Chicagodennister thanks :)06:57
RoKFiTis it the kernel?06:57
_kuja_Oh, and RoKFiT, if anything has dynamic range compression turned on, turn it off06:57
dennisterRoKFiT: u should restart the sound server06:57
dennisternp Admiral_Chicago06:57
RoKFiT_kuja_: where would i see that option?06:58
dennisterbut u don't have to restart x or the pc itself...06:58
Admiral_Chicagogoodthing: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/06:58
_kuja_Xine's configuration has such an option06:58
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Admiral_Chicagowhich package would you grab?06:58
Admiral_Chicagoerr release06:58
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RoKFiTdennister: that still does not fix it06:58
_kuja_I doubt this is the problem though RoKFiT, though that can cause popping06:58
Admiral_Chicagojust nl?06:58
RoKFiTwhat am I to do?  I'm just lost06:58
shawn_homeseems to be working more06:59
momalLooking for a good video editor... tried lives, kino, cinerella but they aren't what im looking for... any suggestions?06:59
goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: yeah, i don' t see a reson not to06:59
goodthing*reason06:59
_kuja_RoKFiT, what do your sound system settings in systemsettings look like?06:59
Admiral_Chicagogoodthing: http://www.mozilla.com07:00
dennisterlike i said RoKFiT; i'm a bit limited because i've never had that problem, so have no experience in fixing audio/popping..kuja will help and i'll but out :)07:00
Admiral_Chicagodoes it direct to nl or to us-en?07:00
goodthingto en-US/07:00
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Admiral_Chicagookay so the problem is with mozilla not my links07:00
RoKFiTone second _kuja_07:00
dennisterheheheh07:00
Admiral_Chicagogoodthing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion07:01
Admiral_Chicagoi updated that site right now, i wasn't sure if the links to download FX where directing to the right page07:01
RoKFiTenable the sound system is checked, network sound is not, skip prevention- run with highest priority is checked, sound buffer is as large as possible07:01
_kuja_how about the hardware tab?07:02
RoKFiTunder hardware, select audio device - autodetect07:02
RoKFiTeverything else off07:02
ForgeAusis there a way to bypass power management when loading the display configuration in system settings?07:02
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ForgeAusits krashing my kubuntu07:02
_kuja_Try playing with some things in there, like changing autodetect to ALSA, and playing with the other settings to see if it fixes the popping. If not, I'm not really sure what else to do.07:03
ForgeAusuh how do I do that?07:03
RoKFiTi believe i've tried every combination of settings07:03
goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: i see, well obviously i would start looking for a Dutch version but that is only because i know there are pre-build translations, so i would check on that07:03
ForgeAusoh ok not me07:03
ForgeAuslol07:04
_kuja_saw someone in here a day or two ago who seemed to know quite a bit about alsa though. I forget who that was though.07:04
goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: but i am a person who tends to scan his own mind from time to time07:04
Admiral_Chicagogoodthing: well no the problem is FX doesn't take the locales of the user agent and send you to the right build07:04
goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: neither does konqueror07:04
RoKFiTaudio does not play with OSS selected07:04
Admiral_Chicagotherefore, the problem was with the mozilla web page, not with the links on the wiki07:04
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_kuja_it wouldn't, OSS is not installed07:05
Admiral_Chicagono that is a problem with the webpage, not the browser07:05
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RoKFiTwhich package do I install for it?07:05
Admiral_Chicagothe page should read the locale of the user agent, some pages are capable, like AIM does that07:05
Admiral_Chicagoredirects you to the linux version of AIM by reading your user agent07:05
goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: hmmm, nothing you can do about it other than mentioning the issue i guess07:06
RoKFiT_kuja_?07:06
compilerwriterok Folks I just installed the openssh-server package now what do I do to fire it up?07:06
_kuja_well, it might work if you install alsa-oss, but I doubt you can really install the real oss, seeing as it's kernel module level07:06
Admiral_Chicagogoodthing: nope it's nothing I can change07:06
RoKFiTso how does it ever get installed?07:06
Admiral_Chicagogoodthing: thanks a lot for your help.07:06
_kuja_RoKFiT, OSS is the thing that existed before ALSA, it's deprecated and will likely be removed from the kernel someday07:07
goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: and even if i change the browser identification in konqueror to add my language, it still directs to the US page07:07
goodthingn07:07
RoKFiTokay07:07
goodthingnp07:07
RoKFiT_kuja_: so what else can i try?07:07
matthewcompilerwriter, try sshd07:07
matthewcompilerwriter, although, that might just fire up the ssh client...07:08
_kuja_Well, install alsa-oss and try the OSS setting again, be warned though, in my experience OSS was nothing but trouble.07:08
RoKFiTi just checked and it was installed, and it didn't work07:08
Admiral_Chicagogoodthing: yes, because teh mozilla page does not take your locale at all07:08
RoKFiTit doesn't even play07:08
compilerwritersshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path07:08
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goodthingAdmiral_Chicago: maybe they don' t even know about it?07:09
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dennisteranyone have a hauppauge 150 tuner working with a SA 2000 STB?07:09
Admiral_Chicagomaybe, I'll fire off an email07:09
RoKFiT_kuja_: what will fix this problem, what is the problem?07:09
Admiral_Chicagowell i have to go study07:09
enyawixcool apache log analyzer?07:09
Admiral_Chicago!mythtv | dennister07:09
ubotudennister: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV07:09
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Admiral_Chicagothat might help07:09
Admiral_Chicagogotta run07:09
compilerwriter!ssh07:09
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/07:09
dennisterAdmiral_Chicago: thx, but i stay away from #mythtv-users07:10
_kuja_RoKFiT, I wish I knew the real root of the problem07:10
goodthinghave a good one Admiral_Chicago07:10
dennisterall the people there can do is criticise you for how you ask questions...I've got almost everything 100% perfect without their "help"07:10
RoKFiT_kuja_: do you have any ideas what the problem may be?07:10
RoKFiTam i running the wrong kernel?07:11
RoKFiTshould i reinstall?07:11
intelikeydettoaltrimenti807:11
_kuja_Perhaps a lousy driver? The configuration seems fine.07:11
RoKFiTwill it update?07:12
RoKFiTshould i reinstall it?07:12
matthewcompilerwriter, no idea...sorry07:12
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_kuja_No, I'm more curious as to what your onboard sound card, and your newly installed soundcard are07:12
dennisterRoKFiT: r u thinking of reinstalling the whole linux installation?07:12
_kuja_lspci surely knows the answer to that07:12
RoKFiTyes, but this happened on fedora core 607:13
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RoKFiTonboard is nvidai ck804, sound card is creative sound audigy SE07:13
RoKFiTthe second is for sure supported by alsa, i even looked it up07:13
_kuja_Hm, mine is the nvidia ck804 as well, which uses the snd_intel8x0 driver I believe ...07:13
RoKFiTare you on x86_6407:14
_kuja_Yes07:14
dennisterwhy 2 sound cards? i have 0 problems with the onboard nvidiia ck80407:14
RoKFiTbecause i had problems and read to try a new sound card07:14
RoKFiThave*07:14
RoKFiTas one of the solutions07:15
intelikeydettoaltrimenti8 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37876/plain/    if you are interested...07:15
_kuja_RoKFiT, are you on 386/686 or x86_64?07:15
_kuja_Doubt it's the issue, but worth a try07:15
RoKFiTx86_6407:16
RoKFiTi think07:16
RoKFiTyeah, x86_6407:16
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intelikeyi think he's too busy reading man pages trying to learn how to do that...  to notice that it's done.    ;/07:16
RoKFiTthats the cd I installed07:16
_kuja_uname -m will tell you for sure. Oh, okay07:16
RoKFiTyeah, x86_6407:16
_kuja_Should be fine, I don't see why it would be popping though ... what motherboard do you have?07:17
RoKFiTshould I be on 68507:17
_kuja_if you happen to know, anyway07:17
RoKFiTgigabyte ga-m55SLI-S407:17
dennisterRoKFiT: it's highly unlikely that that very new mobo or it's onboard sound is at fault07:18
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RoKFiTi know, everything in windows works fine07:18
dennisterif you are thinking of doing a new installation, forget 64-bit OS's that's only for windows07:18
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touchscreenI'm trying to get my Aspen touchscreen to work with Kubuntu, but my limited driver knowledge of Linux is proving to be challenging. It connects VIA USB, and Aspen's site provides drivers for Mandrake, Fedora, and SUSE, but it isn't so kind as to tell us how to install them, or how to modify them for Ubuntu. Can someone please walk me through this? Thanks.07:19
RoKFiTdennister: why do you say that?07:19
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RoKFiTjust stick to 32bit?07:19
intelikeyyeah why ?07:19
_kuja_I see one related thread mentioning that board and sound problems on the ubuntuforums, foudn it with google. it has no solution though ... I hate when posts go unanswered.07:19
dennisterI have an Asus A8n32-SLI, with amd64 x2 3800+, and everything is better and easier with 32-bit linus OS's07:19
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intelikeys/know/no/ ^07:20
RoKFiTthe kernel?07:20
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_kuja_and it only gets worse with time :O07:20
dennisteri tried for months to get 64-bit OS's, in both windows and linux, to no avail...this pc is all top-of-line, bought while i was still a windows user and buying into their hype/push for more and more hardware07:20
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RoKFiTi'd like to know the problem before i switch07:21
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dennisterit can handle vista, but I won't buy vista...I still use windows once in a while to see if hardware works there, then try to duplicate it in linux cause i'm still a linux noob07:21
dennisterRoKFiT: i don't blame you...that's a good idea07:22
reave|cssvista scares me....07:22
RoKFiTso where do i go with this problem07:22
compilerwriter_kuja_ how do I look to see if I have the opehssh daemon going?07:22
reave|cssI am a privacy and drm freak..07:22
_kuja_ps -A | grep ssh07:22
reave|cssI want Freedoms baby07:22
_kuja_maybe?07:22
intelikeyRoKFiT kernel team.07:22
matthewftw07:22
RoKFiThow do i contact them07:22
dennisterreave|css: i'm with u 100%07:23
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intelikeystart in #kernel07:23
shawn_homeabattoir: interesting!07:23
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_kuja_Did I just hear the words drm and privacy in the same sentence? Without the words "lack of" preceding privacy?07:23
shawn_homeabattoir: you can start an app and then lock it to the panel, then it stores it!07:23
dennisteri'm here with linux precisely because of windows 'phoning home' and wga notify07:23
shawn_homenow this is better07:23
RoKFiTno one is in the channel07:24
RoKFiTin time will a new kernel fix this problem most likely?07:24
intelikeystart in ##kernel07:24
matthewdennister, had an "extra legal" version of windows?07:24
intelikeytwo #07:24
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reave|csscan linux only access fat/fat32 file systems?07:25
matthew_kuja_, omg, you did...I heard it too...07:25
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dennisterno, i didn't...have legal copies i bought shrinkwrapped, of xp, xp 64-bit edition, AND xp media center edition...still got locked out with all sorts of false positives07:25
matthewreave|css, there is limited support for NTFS07:25
_kuja_It can access FAT and NTFS both, as well as a slew of others.07:25
intelikeyi forget from time to time that not all irc clients are as good at resolving # as bx is.07:25
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matthewdennister, that sucks...I just got tired of all the restrictions...I'm too poor to buy windows...lol07:26
RoKFiTyeah no one is in that channel either07:26
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reave|csscan I install it on an ntfs partition?07:26
intelikeythe dickens you say.07:26
RoKFiTand this is making me depressed07:26
ForgeAusgrrr how do I get konqueror to save .deb's as files?07:26
dennisteri'd even reinstalled xp mce so many times cd1 got physically cracked, and i went thru 6 weeks of hell from ms's obvious lies b4 i got a replacement disk...cause I could prove i was legal07:26
bgsteffensdoesn't anyone know anything about coding with id3lib...?07:26
_kuja_reave, install what on an ntfs partition?07:26
reave|csskubuntu!07:26
intelikeyRoKFiT on one server alone  "Users(##kernel:61"07:26
_kuja_No07:27
reave|cssmust be fat 32 eh?07:27
RoKFiTi mean no one is responding07:27
matthewreave|css, no, but you can install it on ext307:27
dennistermatthew: i'm poor too; my only income is the ontario disability support program (ie welfare)07:27
_kuja_can't install linux on a fat partition either.07:27
intelikeybe patient07:27
matthewwhich is a really really good file system...07:27
ForgeAusit downloads thhem then complans they're binary :(07:27
matthewdennister, wow...that _really_ sucks...07:27
_kuja_ext3/2, xfs, jfs, reiserfs are your options.07:27
dennisterthe only reason i have this expensive pc is i had to take my last employer to court, and got about 7K in a settlement07:27
reave|cssext3.. hrm...07:27
RoKFiTam I just unlucky or whats the deal?07:28
ForgeAuskuja hpfs?07:28
RoKFiTcan I try another kernel?07:28
_kuja_is hpfs supported by the ubuntu installer?07:28
ForgeAusprolly not07:28
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dennisteri knew i would never have the resources to buy another pc again, so I bought more than i needed, for future-proofing07:28
reave|cssI have a ide drive... lets call it c:  it has 15 gigs of space.. nothing on it..except a windows xp mbr.07:28
_kuja_RoKFiT, I doubt it will help, if FC6 has the same problem, seeing as it's a newer kernel than Edgy's.07:28
dylan_is anyone here familiar with the write() command for sending messages07:28
intelikeyRoKFiT it was sujested that you try 32bit.  but if you don't make the problem known to the developers they wont fix it...     or if some one doesn't...07:29
reave|cssi have a sata drive  d: and e: partitions.. d with winxp and e just data07:29
ForgeAusdylan, I think you need to be more specific07:29
RoKFiTwill 32bit have a newer kernel?07:29
reave|cssI plan to put kubuntu on c: drive07:29
dennisteryes RoKFiT; use the 32-bit...64-bit isn't worth the hassles07:29
e1merdylan_: write user07:29
RoKFiThow will i know if there is a solution07:30
dylan_ForgeAus write "user" [tty]  allows u to send a message to a user07:30
dennisteryes RoKFiT, i have the 2.6.17 edgy kernel07:30
intelikeyRoKFiT go to the kernel.org site and check.07:30
dylan_elmer> it says i havemessages turned off07:30
matthewreave|css, under linux, there is no C drive...its title is hda or hda107:30
ForgeAushow do I install a tarball?07:30
matthewreave|css, just so you know07:30
_kuja_or sda ...07:30
matthew_kuja_, well, yeah....07:31
intelikeyForgeAus tarball of what ?07:31
matthewor fd0...lol07:31
_kuja_ForgeAus: usually involves ./configure && make && sudo make install07:31
ForgeAusie I'm downloading firefox and itsa  tar.gz file (instead of a .deb package)07:31
RoKFiThow to i check my kernel07:31
matthewRoKFiT, did you just download it or the one you are running?07:31
ForgeAuskuja that doesn't sound like too much fun07:31
intelikeyForgeAus why are you downloading a tarball of firefox ?07:31
RoKFiTthe one i'm running07:31
matthewRoKFiT, I don't know.07:32
ForgeAuswhy not?07:32
linux8halo, i need to help again07:32
RoKFiTkernel --version07:32
intelikeyForgeAus use the package manager and just install it.07:32
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ForgeAuskonquerer is kewl but it doesn't let me save .deb's07:32
intelikeyuname -r07:32
_kuja_how about uname -a07:32
ForgeAuspackage manager? how do I do that?07:32
RoKFiT2.6.17-10-generic07:32
_kuja_ForgeAus, it should let you ....07:32
intelikeyyep07:32
matthewRoKFiT, oh, I thought you meant for consistency....my bad07:32
e1merdylan_: try `mesg y` first07:32
ForgeAuskuja it seems to try to open them and then complains they're binary files07:33
linux8my canon pixmaIP1000 still can't to work07:33
RoKFiTcould I upgrade my kernel from the site?07:33
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dennisteruse: uname -r07:33
intelikey!adept | ForgeAus07:33
ubotuForgeAus: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:33
dennisterwhich kernel r u using now?07:33
_kuja_RoKFiT, I'd post something about your problem on ubuntuforums.org, and perhaps think about filing a bug report on launchpad.net07:33
ForgeAusoh I'm  running adept07:33
ForgeAusits updating stuff07:33
intelikey!synaptic | ForgeAus07:33
ubotuForgeAus: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto07:33
ForgeAusvery slow07:34
ForgeAussynaptic?07:34
_kuja_ForgeAus: right click, save link as ...07:34
RoKFiT_kuja_: and my problem being the kernel related to sound07:34
RoKFiThow would you describe my problem?07:34
_kuja_I would describe it as a sound/alsa problem.07:34
intelikey!firefox | ForgeAus07:34
ubotuForgeAus: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins07:34
ForgeAuskuja thats what I thought but it only saves a 3k file so the only problem is it isn't a direct link07:34
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ForgeAusI'm using Kubuntu not just Ubuntu07:35
tamacrackerguys..07:35
matthewForgeAus, it's the same07:35
Admiral_ChicagoForgeAus: works for it as well,07:35
tamacrackerwhat can i use to ping my connection?07:35
intelikeyForgeAus as if there were a differance ?07:35
_kuja_ForgeAus, I hate those types of links ... I've found that Konqueror sometimes does that to me too, I'm not sure why.07:35
Admiral_Chicagoi know, i wrote some of it07:35
matthewForgeAus, just a different desktop Environment and default packages.07:35
matthewtamacracker, ping07:35
matthewlol07:35
matthewtamacracker, ping www.google.com07:36
tamacracker...07:36
tamacrackerubuntu07:36
tamacrackercame with networking tools.07:36
tamacrackerkubuntu doesn't07:36
ForgeAuswell kdevelop is 7.7meg or so, and when I d/l it as a .deb it saves as 3k.. .thats not right...07:36
dennisterta07:36
matthewtamacracker, what do you mean? Just go into a command prompt and type in ping www.google.com.07:36
ForgeAusif I just let it follow the link it actualyl  downloads the .deb but once done tries to run it as a text file in the browser window :(....07:36
matthewoooh, an earthquake just happened07:37
ForgeAusthen complains its a binary file07:37
matthewForgeAus, rightclick -> save link as07:37
RoKFiTcan i update from kernel.org07:37
ForgeAusmatthew was it bad or just a small one?07:37
dennisterwhere matthew?07:37
matthewForgeAus, small07:37
matthewdennister, Northern California, USA07:37
ForgeAusmatthew I just goth thrrrough saying that saves a 3k file07:37
intelikeyForgeAus ubuntu can become kubuntu and kubuntu can become ubuntu  as far as the installed packages are concerned.   they are the same distro just different default package lists.07:37
dennisterno RoKFiT07:37
tamacrackermatthew... i'd like to ping another computer, not a website.07:37
matthewForgeAus, sorry07:37
tamacrackerlike07:37
matthewtamacracker, ping IPADDRESS07:37
tamacrackermore than once.07:37
ForgeAushee hits ok07:38
intelikeyForgeAus when it opens it in the window click file > saveas07:38
matthewtamacracker, ping 192.168.0.607:38
ForgeAushow about Xubnutu :)?:)07:38
dylan_you can ping the host name too07:38
RoKFiTwell s.o.b.07:38
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intelikeyForgeAus yes same.07:38
matthews.o.b?07:38
RoKFiTthis is depressing07:38
dennisterlol & roflmao @ RoKFiT07:38
matthewdennister, in a nice way, right?07:38
ForgeAusinteli you   can do that?07:38
ForgeAusok I'll try07:39
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dennisteryes, most defintely in a nice way :)07:39
RoKFiTso why does only some audio pop07:39
ForgeAushmmm is there a download manager for konqueror?07:39
dennisterpoor RoKFiT, i'm only teasing...u'll get the hang of it, i'm still a noob 4 months after starting07:39
RoKFiTi'm just hoping this updates to a fix07:40
RoKFiTit's more than annoying at the least07:40
_kuja_Hmm, that was interesting ... I set the time to sync with a server, it synced ...... and that crashed amarok o.O07:40
dennisterRoKFiT: only download from the repos and highly recommended sites like the saveas site i gave you07:40
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matthewIt took me about a year to get comfy w/ linux...and I still don't know much...just the basics...07:40
intelikeyForgeAus built-in   settings configure konqueror    web browsing   has options to select...07:40
Admiral_Chicagoi've been using it a year, pretty easy to use imo07:41
RoKFiTk07:41
dennisteri use the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel, the newest (edgy) on my 64-bit system that sounds very similar to yours, but I don't try 64-bit anymore07:41
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RoKFiTwhy07:41
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matthewdennister, I'm using the same one, only cause I can't find a newer one that is configured for the 68607:42
dennisterif you're going to do a new installation, use the 32-bit that i do, but take the second sound card out07:42
matthewnot configured, optimized07:42
RoKFiTdennister: you think this will fix it?07:42
_kuja_If I remember right, the generic kernel in 32-bit land is a 686 kernel07:42
intelikeyhehhe i only have... dpkg -l | grep -ce ^ii07:42
intelikey19007:42
intelikeypackages installed.07:42
matthew_kuja_, really? huh, what do you know about that...lol07:43
RoKFiTand the 64bit kernel is not a 686?07:43
dennistermatthew: what's the difference between configured and optimized?07:43
matthewI'm not sure, but I meant optimized...07:43
matthewI think configured (to me) means I have to tweak it, while optimized means it is already tweaked...no, that doesn't make sense either...lol07:44
dennisterRoKFiT: i forget now which numbers are associated with the 64bit...it's been weeks now for me since i left that behind07:44
_kuja_RoKFiT, the x86_64 generic kernel isn't much different from the 686, I would assume07:44
_kuja_matthew: I just like to know things.07:44
dennisteri just refuse to bother with 64-bit stuff07:44
RoKFiTthe 64 will just update eventually07:44
intelikeymatthew configured means will work    optimized means can't get more effecient without recoding....07:44
RoKFiTwhat's really wrong with the 64bit world?07:45
_kuja_Which reminds me I have a 64-bit faq to write and a script/program to finish07:45
matthewintelikey, very good07:45
matthew_kuja_, yeah, me too07:45
matthewRoKFiT, lack of drivers and apps07:45
weedarI wonder how long until they stop producing 32-bit processors07:45
dennisterleave it to intelikey :)07:45
RoKFiTin time it will change07:45
RoKFiTand quickly07:45
_kuja_weedar, they more or less already have07:45
_kuja_the intel core 2 processors are 64-bit07:45
weedar_kuja_: ah, I thought they were still 32-bit07:46
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matthewI think all modern (last year or so) processors are 64-bit07:46
_kuja_and their only major competitor has been 64-bit for quite a while ...07:46
dennisterRoKFiT: in a way, yes, but i'm now willing to wait until 64-bit are better supported b4 i waste more of my time07:46
_kuja_the intel core duo processors aren't 64-bit ...07:46
weedarI guess 64-bit support needs to quickly become more mature then07:46
_kuja_the pentium D's were07:46
_kuja_Celeron D's weren't07:46
_kuja_with the exception of 1, if I remember right07:47
RoKFiThow often are kernels updated?07:47
intelikeywhile unconfigured would me extreemly generic and not set for any specifics   while something can be both unconfigured and optimized at the same time...   so go figure.07:47
dennisterweedar: yes, and the mainstream hardware manufacturers need to all release 64-bit drivers07:47
RoKFiTand does a new kernel mean a fresh install?07:47
_kuja_RoKFiT, I've been using linux from 2 years, and in that time, we've progressed from about 2.6.8 to 2.6.1907:47
_kuja_And my english seems to die in chat rooms, I meant for, not from07:48
dennistermy lg superdirve still doesn't have a 64-bit driver...and it's a very popular drive07:48
intelikeydennister no.  they need to all opensource their 64bit code07:48
_kuja_or rather, for about, to correct my correction07:48
RoKFiTand 32bit world is going to cure this problem?07:48
dennisterintelikey: yes, but lg haven't even released one for windows, either07:48
_kuja_using 32-bit on 64-bit systems is only a bandaid, and sometimes not even a very good bandaid.07:49
RoKFiTi'll wait, hey guys thanks for the help, i'll be back later.07:49
_kuja_see ya07:49
RoKFiTbye07:49
dennisterno probs RoKFiT :)07:49
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dennistertoo late07:49
intelikeydennister so if they opensourse the 64bit code any os can make a driver for it.  right ?07:49
_kuja_Fat  Chance of any of that happening. hah07:50
billytwowillyso in the edgy installer reiserfs isn't an option anymore. How do I select reiser anyway?07:50
dennisteryes intelikey07:50
billytwowillyand if I can't use reiser what should I use?07:50
_kuja_billytwowilly, xfs, jfs, and ext3 are perfectly reasonable options07:50
weedarI was actually surprised to find that a computer I recently installed both windows and linux that linux was the one that supported all the hardware "out of the box" - windows couldn't find drivers for the soundcard, ethernet card or the video adapter07:51
dennisterthat would be the best solution, but of course if they haven't bothered to write one for even the most common OS...07:51
intelikeybillytwowilly if the installer doesn't allow for it then you'd have to install some other way.    but why not ext ?07:51
weedardennister: so if there is no linux or windows driver, how on earth can you use it?07:51
billytwowillyreiser has been way better to me than ext3.07:52
intelikeyweedar would you mind repeting that in ##windows   :)07:52
_kuja_if you have a reasonably fast computer, xfs is pretty snappy07:52
dennisteru can't use the drive in 64-bit windows, i could use it in dapper 64-bit07:52
weedarintelikey: I think I did a while ago, the silence was deafening ;)07:53
dennisterit was because i couldn't get the lg superdrive to go into dma mode in 64-bit xp that I bought the second winblows OS (media center edition) in the first place07:53
intelikeylol07:53
dennisteroh, and the tuner was a problem in 64-bit winblows, too07:54
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dennisterof course THAT tuner sill simply not work under linux (ATI) so i had to buy the second hauppauge tuner for linux...lol07:55
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weedaryou must have a lot of unused hardware dennister :)07:56
dennisterheheheh...not really...lots of unused software actually07:56
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dennisterif i can do the last 2% of getting the hauppauge to control my digital STB, AND quit my volunteer job at Imagine Canada, then I can (hopefully) never use winblows again07:57
dennisterand i'll try to sell the ATI tuner to someone who has a spare PCIeX1 slot07:58
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Chanibillytwowilly: I always set up my partitions with knoppix and then tell the distro to just use the partitions I've given it07:59
weedarI have an exam in Windows Server today so I guess I'll be using windows forever, at least at work07:59
weedarAt home I never use windows, except for learning to administrate windows servers and such07:59
dennisterAND that person would have to be a dedicated windblows-only user...like my stubborn son who doesn't have the right motherboard07:59
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Chaniweedar: I don't *have* windows at home08:00
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Chaniall I have is kubuntu and gentoo :)08:00
dennisterlol...08:00
intelikeyyeah i use gentoo on ubuntu some times.....08:00
intelikey:)08:00
dennisterweedar: insist on getting paid by the reboot :)08:00
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weedardennister: they'd go bankcrupt08:00
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Chanidennister: LOL08:00
intelikeyi used to use gentoo on mandrake a lot08:01
Chanihehe08:01
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dennisterhey...i used to be an IT headhunter in toronto...know a guy who used that policy...one of the best unix adminstrators in the city...and it's a big city here08:01
Chanianyways. time to reboot, and pray that my dist-upgrade and grub tweaks don't make anyhting explode08:01
weedarI'll cross my fingers for you Chani08:02
dennistergood luck08:02
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Chani:)08:03
_kuja_That's good news08:03
dennisteri've actually been meaning to try gentoo as well, but still have that one challenge to overcome with kubuntu, aka mythtv and the STB08:03
dennistermaybe in the new year, after i move house08:04
weedarI don't see the point with gentoo, if I understand it correctly you compile everything?08:04
marianoanyone has the link for multimedia setup08:04
marianosomething that is not too difficult, i'm still somewhat new to linxu08:04
marianolinxu08:04
marianotwice in a row08:04
marianooh yea08:04
_kuja_weedar, I'd say that makes it pretty darned flexible, but the setup process supposedly takes ages08:04
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Chanidennister: gentoo requires free time and patience. but it's a great experience. and #gentoo is full of great people08:05
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Chaniweedar: control. lots of control.08:05
Chaniweedar: use flags ftw!08:05
weedar_kuja_: well sure that would optimize every program, but in my experience compiling isn't always as easy as you'd think08:05
lakhiaand you can optimize it for 686 etc08:05
dennisteryes, i like control...find there's still a lot of stuff on ubuntu i don't need08:05
Chaniweedar: gentoo makes compiling easy08:06
intelikeytons08:06
_kuja_weedar: I've compiled plenty of things. It can be a headache at times, but I can usually force things to work ...08:06
intelikeydennister tons08:06
dennisterand i've had to learn patience...being disabled i have time...will even be an empty-nester in a matter of weeks...hence the move to a smaller place08:06
Chaninow that I'm on kubuntu I have to actually install tools before compiling stuff... such a hassle... ;)08:06
_kuja_Besides, emerge looks like a pretty decent tool.08:06
Chani_kuja_: damn right08:07
dennistermy baby's leaving home! <whaa>08:07
weedarThat I can agree with Chani08:07
matthewChani, lol, yeah, it _so_ difficult08:07
ChaniI love gentoo. I just don't have the time to maintain it any more08:07
matthewI wonder what would happen if you did sudo apt-get install *08:07
lakhiathe think I hate most is running etc-update08:07
weedardennister: get a pet? :)08:07
Chanilol08:07
lakhia:)08:07
_kuja_sudo apt-get install build-essential debconf debhelper fakeroot....... the first thing I do with any ubuntu installation :)08:07
dennisterlol...i'm happy to get rid of my son's pet cat :)08:07
Chanilakhia: cron job, run at 3am. :)08:08
dennisterif she wasn't so gorgeous, silky-soft, and affectionate, she'd a been dead years ago08:08
Chanihay, I'm supposed to be rebooting!08:08
_kuja_3am, wouldn't that interfere with your late night work :P08:08
lakhiaChani: but I always have to select which version to keep ... and I was too lazy to try to automate it08:08
_kuja_Come to speak of it, almost 3am here :D08:08
dennisterChani: stop procrastrinating!08:08
dennister:)08:09
lakhiaChani: go ahead!08:09
intelikeyetc-update ?08:09
intelikeywho's that ?08:09
dromerhow can I search for files on my cemputer? I can see the Search&Indexing-config but where can I actually search ?08:09
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dennisteri'm not gonna miss nagging my son to get up every morning, either08:09
_kuja_locate works well08:09
_kuja_so does find08:09
lakhiaintelikey: yeah, if an emerge wants to touch a file in /etc, it will not overwrite it08:09
dromerthat's in terminal ?08:09
_kuja_sure08:09
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_kuja_you can also use locate:/ in konqueror08:10
intelikeydromer you can use find / -name <but the name here>08:10
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_kuja_or how about find files/folders in the k-menu .... so many ways to find things :)08:10
dromerintelikey: why / -name ?08:10
lakhiaintelikey: instead, it will create it as a backup and then one has to manually merge the files (if you made changes)08:10
weedardennister: I'm not so sure, stuff like that has a tendency to become fond memories after a while08:10
dennisteri should actually got to bed...gotta go into the office tomorrow and have it out with my boss...the accoutnant/supervisor who manages the volunteers and who doesn't like volunteers08:10
dromer_kuja_: I don't seet hat in the menu08:10
intelikeydromer ok  -iname if you like08:10
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_kuja_Hmmmmm, it's in mine? Oh well08:11
dromerintelikey: why is that ?08:11
lakhiaintelikey:  correction, 9 out of 10 times you simply want the updated file08:11
_kuja_I think it uses kfind08:11
intelikeydromer no particular reason.08:11
dennisterlol...and she's in a charity who's core mission is to support volunteerism lol08:11
dennistergood night all08:11
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intelikeylakhia so you run another script to mv *.back to *   hmmm sounds like a bad day at calling scriptb from scripta to work on scriptc    to me.08:13
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lakhiaintelikey: well, etc-update is a script provided by gentoo that tries to automerge files. But it only has 2 version to compare (the installed one and the new one).08:14
sikuni have kubuntu on my laptop, and i've noticed.. the cpu fan doesn't turn on08:14
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lakhiaintelikey: so, it almost always asks the user to select which version they prefer08:14
lakhiaintelikey: and then does the mv for you08:15
sikuni've noticed after about an hour of use.. it lags bad, then i shut it down for a while and let it cool, then it works better08:15
draikPartition question: If I ghost my hdd to another hdd (a bigger hdd), can I resize the partitions without corruption?08:15
intelikeylakhia then it sounds like emerge should automatically call etc-update...08:15
metresHi there, do anyone have installed google earth on amd64 ? I have a libxml2 problem...08:15
_kuja_draik: depends which partition type you use?08:15
lakhiaintelikey: it doesn't ... it simply tells you that you should run etc-update08:15
_kuja_should be doable08:16
draik_kuja_: NTFS, Ext3, Swap08:16
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lakhiaintelikey: probably because the emerge process is fairy automated and etc-update needs interaction08:16
_kuja_I wouldn't dare try to resize an XFS partition though, I have had nightmarish experiences with that.08:16
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draikI'm on a 250GB hdd right now, and I want to go to 700+ GB hdd08:17
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rizwaan.deb files are opened with kate from konqueror..08:18
rizwaantry this with konqueror http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/opera/linux/910/final/en/i386/shared/opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb08:19
intelikeyi'd settel for 20g08:19
stdinrizwaan: right-click & Save As08:19
goodthingdraik: i can recommend the seagate's barracuda 7200.10 line, they are FAST08:19
goodthingthough they can get a little warm08:19
rizwaankde-apps, opera and many sites do not allow "right-click" save as option08:19
intelikeyor when it opens it just use the menu   file > save as08:20
goodthingehh, *hot08:20
draikintelikey: I think that I have a 20GB lying around somewhere08:21
draiknot sure though08:21
intelikeyor does it hurt your eyes to see the text of a .deb08:21
rizwaanit annoys me.. i would want to save it not read it.. ;)08:21
intelikeydraik i don't really need more space.  thanks for the offer08:21
Chaniwell, nothing exploded...08:21
rizwaani'm using feisty..08:22
intelikeythis box has 8 drives but the largest is 4.5g08:22
draikintelikey: np08:22
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goodthingChani: wait until the kids get behind it08:22
Chanikdm and knetworkmanager are broken.08:22
billytwowillyheh. You guys frustrate the crap out of me sometimes. Who is the smart guy that took out the panel selector for configuring panels in KDE?08:22
ChaniI had to use startx and dhclient08:23
draikI have 3 hdd: 250GB 250GB 80GB08:23
draikSysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 689/3035MB, 104 proc's, 35.14min up08:23
draikhmmm... no hdd08:23
draik*no hdd shown08:23
intelikeybillytwowilly right click the pannel08:23
draikI have no GRUB right now. Would anyone know how to bring it back?08:24
draikNothing loads. My hdd sits there doing nothing08:24
billytwowillyintelikey: yah, I do, I select configure panel and it puts me in the panel configuration menu. Except the drop down menu at the top to select the panel to configure is gone and the panel configurator defaults to the original panel to configure.08:24
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goodthingdraik: with the super grub boot disk08:24
draikgoodthing: I tried... nothing08:25
intelikeysudo grub-install /dev/<devicenode>08:25
draikgoodthing: That's actually how I'm able to get in to my Kubuntu partition08:25
draikintelikey: devicenode?08:25
draikhd0,5?08:25
intelikeybillytwowilly you don't have things locked to a pannel do you ?   can't config a locked pannel i don't think.08:26
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intelikeydraik then hda most probably08:26
intelikeyerr hdb08:26
notechhd0 woud be hda08:26
intelikeynotech no hd0 would be the first recognized hd in the box08:27
billytwowillyintelikey: It's not locked. I did a default kubuntu edgy install, then this is my first boot and I right clicked on the main panel and selected "add new panel" and then "Panel". This is where I am now.08:27
draikok08:27
intelikeynotech grub is stupid that way08:27
billytwowillyIs there any way to turn off all the dumbing down you guys do to kde without switching to debian?08:27
notechintelikey: wouldn't that normally be hda?08:27
draikno, hda is correct08:27
draikrestart?08:27
_kuja_billytowilly, uninstall the kubuntu-default-settings package08:27
intelikeynotech normal in what box ?08:28
notechintelikey: what determines first recognized?08:28
goodthingsoory draik, other than that disk i am not experienced with installing grub, but intelikey could help :)08:28
intelikeynotech on many it would be sda08:28
draikMine is set to hda08:28
draikintelikey: restart?08:28
draikI ran "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"08:28
intelikeynotech "what determines first recognized?"  best i can determine bios addressing  0x80 0x81 0x82....  if the box has one hd and it's on secondary ide master   then 0x80 is /dev/hdc   so grub says /dev/hdc = (hd0)08:30
notechintelikey: gotcha08:31
intelikeydraik it's your box.  restart as you like.08:31
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intelikeyi don't at all like grub   and can't even use it on the system i have setup here08:32
notechi haven't used grub in many years08:32
_kuja_why's that intelikey?08:32
intelikeyit's too week to boot this box08:32
notechsurprised i remember any of it08:32
intelikeyit depends on bios   if bios can't boot it then grub can't.08:33
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bgsteffensanyone know of a program that can take an mp3 without full id3 info and fill in the rest?08:33
intelikeyor maybe i should rephrase "if bios can't read it then grub can't boot it"08:34
intelikeybgsteffens why not use ogg ?08:34
goodthingbgsteffens: easytag08:34
bgsteffenstyty08:35
intelikey!freeformats08:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:35
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touchscreenCan someone recommend me a generic touchscreen driver to work with linux? I know my particular monitor is unsupported.08:35
bgsteffensintellikey: i screwed up my old windows storage drive, did a raw format, and got back 40 thousand mp3 files without filenames08:35
bgsteffensintellikey: i wrote a program to sort them by their id3 tags but only about half had enough information08:35
intelikeylol08:35
_kuja_amarok isn't half bad for tagging ...08:36
intelikeytouchscreen why generic?    but the kernel has modules.08:36
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draikintelikey: No dice08:37
draiknothing08:37
ubuntusalut08:37
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touchscreenHow do I activate them? It didn't autodetect my USB touchscreen monitor...08:38
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unix_infidelusb touchscreen monitor?08:38
draiktouchscreen: What USB touchscreen device do you have? I have been looking for something myself08:38
unix_infidelyour monitor runs on 900mW?08:38
unix_infidelwtf>?08:38
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touchscreenMy monitor has it's power supply that plugs in and a USB cord to run to the back of the computer08:39
intelikeytouchscreen modprobe          drivers are in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/touchscreen/  if you need to look.08:39
touchscreenIt's an Aspen 15 inch ATM draik, but before you rush out to buy one.. let me see if it works LOL08:39
touchscreenOkay, so I just modprobe a driver out of that path intelikey08:40
touchscreen?08:40
draiktouchscreen: I have a 19" that I wish was touch screen08:40
intelikeydraik so like i first said /dev/<devicenode>    cat /boot/gruh/device*08:40
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notechdraik: you sure the bios is set to boot to that drive?08:41
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sikunmy processor is now running @ 145 degrees.. how can i manually turn the cpu fan on?08:41
intelikeytouchscreen yes   and if you get the right one it should actually work  :)08:41
draikYup. HDD boots after cd rom08:41
draikintelikey: cat /boot/grub/device*?08:41
goodthinglol, i install fedora and it immediately comes with an error message: no PSB or ACPI  _PSS objects08:42
touchscreenAnd do I need to unmodprobe them or something if they don't or does it just clean them out itself?08:42
goodthingah well, it boots08:42
intelikeydraik yes08:42
draikok... here you go...08:42
draik(hd0)   /dev/hda08:42
draik(hd1)   /dev/hdb08:42
draik(hd2)   /dev/sda08:42
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draiksorry for the mini flood08:42
Chaniever since the dist-upgrade I've been getting a lot of this:08:42
ChaniWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!08:42
intelikeytouchscreen you find the one that works and add it to the list in /etc/modules  (which is probably blank atm)08:43
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intelikeythen at boot it will automatically load it for you.08:43
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touchscreenOkay, so modprobe them until one works, then copy and paste to /etc/modules? It's really that easy?08:44
intelikeydraik ok and you have bios set to boot from first ide master  correct ?08:44
draiktouchscreen: Please document your steps. I want to see them once you're done so that I can get an idea of what I'm dealing with. Thank you.08:44
j_amarok doesn't seem to scan all the folders it's supposed to?08:44
draikintelikey: Correct08:44
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touchscreenNo problem draik, if I get them working, I'll even post a howto on the forums..08:45
intelikeydraik and you ran    sudo grub-install /dev/hda    and it returned without error ?08:45
j_namely, I have some files on a ntfs drive, these it gets, and then some in home folder, which amarok fails to add to the collection08:45
draiktouchscreen: Thank you. Much appreciated08:45
draikintelikey: Correct08:45
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draikno error08:45
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intelikeyhmmm   you may need some that actually uses grub to help with that ......08:46
tamacrackerhey guys08:46
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intelikeydraik and at boot time it does exactly what ?08:47
draik08:47
tamacrackerhow can i manually mount and unmount my windows partition so that i can transfer files back and forth when needed?08:47
draik^^That's what it does08:47
draiknothing08:47
unix_infideltamacracker: uhh, mount and umount08:47
draik!ntfs | tamacracker08:47
ubotutamacracker: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse08:47
tamacrackeryeah unix08:48
intelikeyhave you let that set for 20 seconds to see if anything timed out ?08:48
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tamacrackerlike insted of my linux mountin my ntfs drive automatically when it starts, i wanna be able to do that08:48
draikI have left it for about 5 minutes yesterday08:48
tamacrackerso i have less chance of ruining my windows partition.08:48
notechfuse allowss writing to ntfs?08:49
draiksorry, not yesterday but saturday... either way, past 20s08:49
unix_infidelis digg down for anyone else?08:49
intelikeydraik i mean after you did the grub-install command ?08:49
draiknotech: I would assume so. It allows you to do so in Knoppix 5+08:49
notechreliably?08:49
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draikintelikey: Sorry, I didn't count, but I would assume about 20-25s08:50
intelikeydraik k08:50
notechor is it considered experimental?08:50
draiknotech: I don't know about safe it is, but it does it.08:50
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tamacrackerdraik i dont wanna automatically mount my drive, i'd like to manually do it when ever i can just to access my windows files.08:50
draiknotech: /j knoppix08:50
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touchscreenOkay intelikey, I've sudo modprobed everything in the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/touchscreen/ dir and all didn't do anything..08:50
intelikeydraik so was there any "writing stage***" messages on the grub-install command ?08:50
draikintelikey: don't think so... let me do it again08:51
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intelikeytouchscreen lsmod | head    will tell you what took08:51
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touchscreenmtouch                  5376  008:52
touchscreengunze                   5248  008:52
touchscreenelo                     6016  008:52
touchscreenads7846                11136  008:52
touchscreenbinfmt_misc            13448  108:52
touchscreenrfcomm                 42260  008:52
touchscreenl2cap                  27136  5 rfcomm08:52
touchscreenbluetooth              53476  4 rfcomm,l2cap08:52
touchscreenspeedstep_lib           5764  008:52
touchscreenSorry about the flood, that's what I got08:52
intelikeymtouch is installed.08:53
touchscreenmtouch, gunze, elo, ad7846 are all in the touchscreen dir08:53
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tamacrackeris Fuse a good option to use?08:53
tamacrackerso i can access my ntfs drive?08:53
tamacrackerto transfer files back and forth?08:53
draikintelikey:08:53
draikInstallation finished. No error reported.08:53
draikThis is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.08:53
draikCheck if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,08:53
draikfix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.08:53
touchscreenIt works tamacracker08:53
tamacrackerwill i be able to unmount the drive so i dont end up ruining my ntfs partition?08:54
draikintelikey: After that it just lists my hd0, hd1 and hd208:54
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tamacrackerack Fuse did read only08:54
touchscreenyeah tamacracker, you should check ubuntuforums.org, they've got a great howto on how to do it. Works wonderfully and gives read write access to it08:55
intelikeydraik grep -v'#' /boot/grub/menu.lst | less     and see what's in it08:55
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tamacrackerit just did read-only access08:55
tamacrackerNTFS drives will be mounted read-only!08:56
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goodthinghmm, i can' t say i like gnome but fedora's sure has done a good job on configuring the default gnome08:56
touchscreenintelikey: if the modprobe worked, should it have a number aside from 0 under the used by?08:56
tamacrackerNot enabling experimental NTFS write support08:56
matthewgoodthing, I love KDE08:56
matthewso much better08:56
draikintelikey: anything specific in '#'?08:56
intelikeytouchscreen no that tells you how many other modules are depending on/using that module08:57
goodthingmatthew: me too, but i needed to install it for some test08:57
matthewgoodthing, bummer!08:57
matthewlol08:57
intelikeydraik lol08:57
intelikeygrep -v'#' /boot/grub/menu.lst | less08:57
touchscreenso if any of the modprobes show up, that's the right one to use? because as of now, after the mod probing, nothing's worked on the touchscreen part08:57
draikintelikey: I typed that and this is what I got08:58
draikgrep: invalid option -- #08:58
draikUsage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ...08:58
draikTry `grep --help' for more information.08:58
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touchscreenHold up tamacracker, I'll get you the link08:58
intelikeyput a space in it.08:58
intelikeygrep -v '#' /boot/grub/menu.lst | less08:58
tamacrackerthanks touchscreen :D08:58
intelikeyi forgot that bash now complains about that08:58
draikok08:59
draikwhat do I need to look for?08:59
intelikeylines with vmlinuz  and the such like08:59
touchscreenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs+write follow that tama..08:59
draikok08:59
intelikeyjust make sure that it's setup to boot your system09:00
draiktitle           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic09:00
draikroot            (hd0,5)09:00
draikkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash09:00
draikinitrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic09:00
draikquiet09:00
draiksavedefault09:00
draikboot09:00
intelikeyyep09:00
draikthat's what I've always had09:00
intelikeyk09:00
draikno idea why nothing happens09:00
touchscreenI'm going to copy these modprobes into the bootup dir and pray to allah that one of them works09:00
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intelikeynot really.   i'm still thinking you are actually booting another disk.09:01
draikshouldn't be09:01
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intelikeysudo grub-install /dev/hdb09:01
tamacrackertouchscreen09:01
tamacrackeram i better off using ext3?09:01
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touchscreenI use XFS and love it tamacracker :D09:01
draikok09:01
intelikeysudo grub-install /dev/hdc09:02
tamacrackerwhoa touchscreen, im sunni :D09:02
tamacrackerXFS?09:02
draikintelikey: /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.09:02
intelikeysudo grub-install /dev/hdd09:02
draikintelikey: /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.09:02
draikerr... hdd09:03
intelikeynow reboot09:03
draikok... brb09:03
intelikeyif it works you are booting hdb09:03
tamacrackertouchscreen... is that the file extension?09:03
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tamacrackerXFS?09:03
touchscreenNo, XFS is a filesystem just like ext3 and NTFS09:04
intelikeyxfs is X file system09:04
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tamacrackerah so it's specifically for ntfs09:04
tamacrackeris that stable09:04
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tamacrackeror more reliable than ext3 and ntfs-g309:04
tamacracker3g*09:05
touchscreenNo no tamacracker, ntfs isn't "officially" supported.09:05
touchscreenXFS and ext3 are linux supported file systems09:05
dave_hey could somone please help me i am only new to kubuntu and i don't know how to instrall wine or the mp3 codecs09:05
touchscreenxfs is stable and faster than ext309:05
vge!realplayer09:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:05
touchscreenbut less quick than ReiserFS09:05
tamacrackerin order to use xfs, do i need to reformat my operating system?09:05
intelikey!wine | Dave_09:05
ubotuDave_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:05
intelikey!mp3 | Dave_09:06
ubotuDave_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:06
intelikey!repos | Dave_09:06
ubotuDave_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:06
intelikeybook mark them you'll need them all most likely dave_09:07
intelikey!sudo | dave_09:07
ubotudave_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:07
tamacrackertouchscreen, may i get the link to mount my ntfs drive using XFS?09:07
rickyhi everybody09:07
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tamacrackerfor read/write accesss.09:08
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intelikey!ntfs | tamacracker09:08
ubotutamacracker: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:08
rickysomeone can help me with bluetooth ? I've tested, searching on web, and changed the config files, but nothing, i can't put/get files on my phone09:08
intelikey!fuse | tamacracker09:08
ubotutamacracker: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse09:08
_kuja_!ntfs3g09:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:09
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intelikey!ntfs | #kubuntu09:11
ubotu#kubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:11
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goodthing_kuja_: cool, fedora boots with my disks, now lets see if it will mount behave like normal09:11
_kuja_Ooh, that's good news then09:12
goodthingindeed :) :)09:12
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tamacrackerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse <- does not let me write onto my ntfs drive09:14
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tamacrackerCan someone help me to mount my ntfs drive so that it is write-able.. it's currently readable only.09:14
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intelikeytamacracker what's the address and mountpoint ?09:15
matthew!ntfscapture09:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfscapture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:15
matthew!ntfs capture09:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs capture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:15
matthew!ntfs-capture09:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-capture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:15
matthew!ntfs_capture09:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs_capture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:15
intelikeytamacracker ?09:15
matthewtamacracker, try ntfs capture09:15
tamacracker  /media/hda109:16
intelikeyk09:16
tamacrackerhda1 being my ntfs drive09:16
intelikeysudo umount  /media/hda109:16
_kuja_https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ntfs-3g09:16
tamacrackerok it's unmounted09:16
intelikeysudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o dmask=000,fmask=11109:17
tamacrackerok09:17
intelikeyyour welcome.09:17
tamacrackeroh09:17
tamacrackerthat's it?09:17
tamacrackeris that how i manually mount and unmount my drive?09:17
intelikeyit is.09:17
tamacracker:(09:18
tamacrackeri can't write to it09:18
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intelikeyyou can't ?09:18
tamacrackerim tryin to paste my pictures onto my windows HD09:18
tamacrackernope09:18
intelikeyok do   mount     and pastebin the output09:18
intelikey!paste09:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:18
tamacrackerok09:19
intelikeyuse that pastebin please  ^09:19
goodthingoh, horny message: goodthing is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.09:19
tamacrackerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37887/09:19
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intelikeytamacracker according to line 13. /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw,dmask=000,fmask=111)   it's read/writable09:21
tamacrackerhm...09:21
intelikeyclose the file manager and try again with a fresh instance.09:21
tamacrackeri just tried to create a new folder through the edit option (right click menu doesn't have the option) and it would not let me create a new folder.09:22
tamacrackerok09:22
tamacrackernegative.09:22
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intelikeyhmmm lets umount it again try one other thing09:23
tamacrackerok09:23
intelikeyand close the filemanager while mounting09:23
tamacrackerok unmounted09:23
tamacrackerand file manager is close09:24
intelikeysudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o umask=000,dmask=000,fmask=11109:24
tamacrackerok09:24
tamacrackershould i check my mount?09:24
intelikeyna just see if you can write to it09:25
tamacrackerok09:25
touchscreenOkay, i've modprobed everything in the touchscreen modules directory, restarted X, and still no touchscreen ability. My xorg.conf lists my monitor, but I don't think it's got the part that it's supposed to be a touchscreen. Any suggestions?09:25
tamacrackerCould not make folder /media/hda1/New Folder.09:25
intelikeytouchscreen you did add a device entry for touchscreen in the xorg.conf didn't you?09:25
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touchscreenNot at all.. how do I do that?09:26
intelikeytamacracker that don't make sense...    try cli   mkdir /media/hda1/testing109:26
tamacrackertype in cli as part of that command?09:27
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j_errm, adept won't start?09:27
tamacrackertamacracker@tamacracker:~$ mkdir /media/hda1/testing109:27
tamacrackermkdir: cannot create directory `/media/hda1/testing1': Read-only file system09:27
intelikeytouchscreen i don't know the specifics on that but edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     you'll have to google the entry   but look at the wacom devices listed in the file for syntax examples09:27
j_it loads for a while and then nothing09:27
j_how do I install synaptic from shell?09:28
intelikeytamacracker sudo mkdir /media/hda1/testing209:28
j_also, is synaptic then aware of the installed packages?09:28
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intelikeyj_ sudo apt-get install synaptic09:28
tamacrackerlol intelikey09:28
tamacrackersame message09:28
intelikeyyes j_09:29
tamacrackerit's a read only file system09:29
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j_k09:29
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intelikeytamacracker yep it's a real read only file system.09:29
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tamacrackerstupid mp3 player, only if my mp3 player could work linux09:29
touchscreenI've got them in there for the wacom.. so do I uncomment them, or do I have to find specifics?09:29
tamacrackerthen i'd never use windows09:29
tamacrackerintelikey lol can i convert it into a read/write?09:30
reavehow do I install opera in kubuntu.... I am a total noob09:30
unix_infideltouchscreen: did you google for your hardware first?09:30
goodthingreave: you have to add another repository to your sources.list file09:30
unix_infideli doubt the wacom stuff will work with a touchscreen. its totally different hardware.09:30
reaveI have the tar file on my desktop09:30
touchscreenYeah.. but it's not "supported" per say. I'm just trying for a generic touchscreen for now09:30
touchscreenJust anything09:30
tamacrackerreave you could have used adept manager09:30
reaveoh ic09:30
intelikeytouchscreen i'd  google.com/linux   search for touchscreen xorg   see what you can find  surely you're not the first to do this.09:31
unix_infideltouchscreen: sure then, give uncommenting the wacom stuff in xorg.conf a try.09:31
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unix_infideli'd ALSO google thoroughly for tablet pc stuff.09:31
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tamacrackerintelikey... is there any way i can make it into a writable hd?09:31
unix_infidelHand recognition in linux SUCKS, but the touch screen stuff is fully functional.09:31
goodthingreave: google for source-o-matic and down on that page you'll find opera09:32
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intelikeytamacracker i've never see one act the way yours is acting.09:32
touchscreenokay, but for reference, I'm not using xfree86 am I?09:32
tamacrackeris there any way i can delete the HD09:32
tamacrackeror something09:32
intelikeytamacracker pastebin the output of  fdisk -l /dev/hda09:32
tamacrackerok09:32
tamacrackerlol09:32
tamacrackercannot open09:32
tamacrackerdev/hda09:33
intelikeysudo it09:33
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soonHi folks - I've lost my wifi connection .. new IBM T60, worked fine yesterday. ifconfig tells me I have: ath0, eth0. lo and wifi0-00  ... iwconfig tells me ath0 is only one with wireless extension ...09:33
RoKFiT_kuja_: are you here?09:33
intelikeytouchscreen no xorg09:33
goodthingreave: though i have to say that konqueror is hard to beat, better than opera imho09:33
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soonIm al little stuck ... not much of an network guru09:33
tamacrackerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37890/09:33
soonanyone knowledgable in network stuff?09:34
RoKFiT_kuja_: i wanted to ask what makes you believe it is the kernel that is at fault for my audio troubles09:34
reavegoodthing... opera isnt avail in my adept manager09:34
unix_infideltouchscreen: no, if your using breezy or better you're using xorg09:34
_kuja_I said I figured it was the alsa driver, I never said it was the kernel.09:34
goodthingreave: that's because the servers in your file /etc/apt/sources.list do not have this package09:35
touchscreenOkay... found one for a 15 in touchscreen. Not exactly my monitor, but I found the xorg code. Just paste it in xorg.conf and modprobe the appropriate driver and restart X, right?09:35
RoKFiToh09:35
reaveheh.. okay...09:35
goodthingreave: you have to edit that file and add another source (repository)09:35
intelikeytouchscreen the modeprobe is a one time thing.09:35
j_how do I create a shortcut to synaptic that asks for my password?09:35
RoKFiTwhen kde4 is released, will it be an update to kubuntu or a fresh install or a cd install?09:35
tamacrackerintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37890/09:35
touchscreen!paste09:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:35
intelikeytama yes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37890/ is the same.09:36
reavejust how do I do this goodthing?09:36
intelikeytamacracker i give up.09:36
_kuja_RoKFiT, it will be an additional set of packages at first09:36
touchscreenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37891/ Mind looking at that intelikey or unix_infidel and telling me where exactly to pop that one into xorg?09:36
tamacrackerk09:36
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RoKFiTand second?09:37
_kuja_settings for kde4 programs will be placed in ~/.kde4 instead of ~/.kde, and kde4 will be able to coexist with kde3, keeping in mind that kde3 programs don't work in kde4.09:37
intelikeytamacracker i've seen many a ntfs mounted, never saw one do that.   i sujest you boot to windows and scnadisk the thing.09:38
goodthingreave: well, you basicly open that file with an text editor under administrator permissions (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list) from konsole and add one or two lines which you should be able to find on the source-o-matic website09:38
tamacrackerk09:38
RoKFiTi hope a new alsa driver is oriented09:38
goodthingreave: if you are not able to do that just ask09:38
RoKFiTbrb09:38
tamacrackerwait09:38
tamacrackerscandisk?09:38
tamacracker>.>09:38
intelikeyyes09:38
reavelol konqueror sounds better and better all the time!09:38
tamacrackeri only know of disk clean up and defrag lol09:38
rickybye09:38
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tamacrackeralright ill see what's up09:39
intelikeytamacracker there is a disk diagnostic and repair tool also09:39
reaveim going to try firefox for now..09:40
intelikeyin the command line i think it's still scandisk09:40
goodthingreave: after that you issue a "sudo aptitude update"  and a sudo aptitude install opera and you should be set assuming you editted the sources.list file correct09:40
reaveim more familiar with opera and firefox than konq.09:40
j_reave, all you need to do is edit a textfile09:40
j_opera doesn't seem to be too stable on kubuntu though09:40
j_or then somethings amiss with my configuration09:41
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reavetoday is my first day using linux.09:41
reaveI have under 2 hours with it.09:41
j_mostly it crashes when there lots of tabs open and some of them has those fricken flash ads09:41
reaveso I am going slow!09:41
_kuja_j-> opera never crashes on me09:42
j_it started like 3 days ago09:42
_kuja_j-> flash may not necessarily be 100% stable, and that could crash the browser09:42
j_haven't installed anything either09:42
j_I need to look into my Opera flash plugin09:42
j_Flash sites suck anyway, maybe I'll just uninstall it09:43
_kuja_You using flash 7 or 9?09:43
touchscreenHow can I find out what USB port my monitor is connected to so i can write that into xorg?09:44
j_9 I suppose09:44
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_kuja_first or second beta?09:44
reavehow can I get linux to find my hard disk drives?09:44
reavedo I need to mount them?09:44
goodthingreave: well, just keep in mind that everybody has been there, and everyone is still learning09:44
reaveheh..09:45
Admiral_Chicago!fstab | reave09:45
ubotureave: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:45
reaveI need to get a linux for dummies09:45
Admiral_Chicagodo a sudo fdisk -l09:45
Admiral_Chicagothen follow the fstab guide09:45
Admiral_Chicagoi'm going to bed09:45
Admiral_Chicagogoodnight all09:45
intelikeyi stand corrected chkdsk has again replaced scandisk09:45
_kuja_night Admiral_Chicago09:45
j_I am having no luck on locating my flasj plugin09:46
intelikey!ntfs | reave09:46
ubotureave: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:46
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wall86howdy, i seem to be having a problem with booting, the error msg is: ALERT! /dev/hda2 does not exist. dropping to a shell!     yet i only have 1 HDD09:48
matthewgood night, all09:49
bgsteffenswall86 is your fstab file trying to mount a /dev/hda2?09:49
j_Flash 7 apparently09:49
intelikeywall86 /dev/hda2 is first ide primary hd second partition.09:49
_kuja_wall86: could be a problem with your /etc/fstab file09:49
wall86ok,09:49
j_or at least that was the only package I have lying around09:49
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wall86this is still a fresh install, been trying everything to get this thing running for a week09:50
T3hWiz0rdamarok crashes too easy.09:50
_kuja_wall86, bring up a terminal and try this: sudo parted /dev/hda print09:50
wall86had to re-install for liek the 15th time now.....09:50
intelikeyso your initramfs is trying to mount hda2 but that's not where you installed the system ?09:50
_kuja_!pastebin | wall8609:51
ubotuwall86: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:51
_kuja_Use pastebin to show the results09:51
intelikey_kuja_ you did notice he said it's PRE-FSTAB didn't you ?09:51
touchscreenOkay... I'm trying to find out what USB port my monitor is connected to so I can complete this line in xorg.         Option     "Device"     "/dev/ttyS0" where ttys0 is my USB drive. How do i do that?09:51
wall86can't even boot.....09:51
touchscreenUSB port not drive. *09:52
_kuja_Hmm, do this from the livecd?09:52
bgsteffenswall86 i feel your pain. i messed up converting my 300 gb filestorage drive from ntfs to ext3 and have been trying to get the data back for a week09:52
wall86boots to live cd09:52
wall86just does not boot to final install09:52
_kuja_Yes, are you u sing the livecd now?09:52
wall86no, i can boot to it tho09:53
goodthingman, my mind is totally thinking in apt-get and aptitude, i find myself using that on fedore for the trillion time now...09:53
j_is there anything like Brightside for KDE?09:53
_kuja_What's brightside like?09:53
intelikeywall86 for future referance that error is happening in the RAM disk  before the initramfs.img hands the system over to the init/upstart.09:53
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j_press mouse against corner -> switch desktop09:53
j_I mean side of course09:53
wall86ok, im a linux newb......09:53
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j_or some configurable action09:54
_kuja_goodthing, I've heard of something called apt-rpm, and I'm pretty sure pclinuxos is a rpm based distro, yet, I think it uses apt-get ... must be some way to pull it off ;)09:54
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j_what I would really want is to have a scrollable desktop09:54
goodthinghmm, interesting :)09:54
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_kuja_j_: You can have a scrollable desktop :)09:55
j_yeah, but it kinda glitches with my hardware at least09:55
intelikeywall86 the fact that it says "ALERT! /dev/hda2 does not exist. dropping to a shell!" means that it is happening within the initramfs      this tells us two things.   one.  the boot loader is reading in the kernel and the initramfs.img correctly   that means it's not a grub problem     two that whether it's module or address related the kernel is not able to mount the root file system.09:55
_kuja_Hmm, weird09:56
j_I get artifacts09:56
intelikeynow if you can get these guys to fix that for you, you'll be in business.09:56
intelikeyand i posted that just a little late.09:56
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intelikeysure.  nothing wrong with checking the addressing.09:57
vgehow do i setup a mail server09:57
vgei just want to use the php mail() command :)09:57
intelikeyjust keep in mind the info above  ^09:57
_kuja_but of course09:57
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intelikeyvge sendmail ?09:58
dave_cam somone please help me with the mp3 codecs i still cant work out how to get Kubuntu To play mp3's09:58
_kuja_!mp309:59
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intelikeydave_ did you go to those sights listed ^09:59
dave_eh but i have kubuntu not ubuntu does it matter?09:59
intelikeyit's all the same except the default apps.10:00
touchscreenWhere is the Ubuntu equivilant of the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/ directory?10:00
dave_oh ok and why is Wine ghosted in the add programs thing10:01
touchscreenI've got a file to cram there.. but I have no such dir10:01
intelikeyin other words if it gives a command line  example   there is not x/edu/k/  to ubuntu  it's all just ubuntu10:01
intelikeydave_ did you go to the repos link i gave you an hour ago ?10:01
intelikey!repos10:01
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:01
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dave_no sorry i misssed  it!10:01
_kuja_touchscreen, probably /usr/lib/X11, I would think10:02
_kuja_or wait a bloody minute hold for a sec10:02
_kuja_hmm, might be it10:03
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dave_reading now10:03
_kuja_or not10:03
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osiris_!nvidia > osiris_10:04
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unix_infidelanyone know of a firefox plugin that keeps the search bar at the bottom static>10:05
unix_infidel??10:05
goodthingsomeone knows how to get fdisk installed on fedora by accident?10:07
unix_infidelgoodthing: ?10:08
unix_infidelthis is #Kubuntu10:08
intelikeygoodthing fdisk not installed ?   fdisk is pretty standard equepment on any *nix10:08
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goodthingnope, fedora does not come with it10:08
_kuja_Funny thing was, Kubuntu wouldn't install due to weird hardware related issues on goodthings computer....10:08
intelikeygoodthing maybe you don't have sbin/ in your path ?10:08
_kuja_goodthing, how about parted, is it installed?10:08
goodthingunix_infidel: yeah i know, but i like you guys more ;)10:09
bgsteffensi can't get mp3s to work either.....10:09
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goodthing_kuja_: dunno, lemme look10:09
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_kuja_!mp3 | bgsteffens10:09
ubotubgsteffens: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:09
intelikeygoodthing echo $PATH | grep sbin10:09
bgsteffensthat's what i went off'10:09
bgsteffensnow amarok is broken10:09
bgsteffenslol10:09
_kuja_odd10:09
_kuja_Broken how?10:10
bgsteffensloading application... for 2 or 3 minutes and then disappears10:10
_kuja_try this: killall amarok10:10
_kuja_erm10:10
_kuja_killall amarokapp10:10
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_kuja_Then try to open it again10:10
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vgeintelikey: yes, sendmail10:11
intelikeygoodthing is sbin in your path ?10:11
reavewhat is the easiest way to install ati video drivers... I am a total noob... please be gentle10:11
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bgsteffens_kuja_ nice, thank you. it works again and plays mp3 suddenly ;P10:12
vgesendmail is in /usr/sbin/sendmail if im not mistaken10:12
_kuja_yw bgsteffens10:12
bgsteffensmy room is no longer silent! >=)10:12
reavebtw,... you guys are awesome... i have got a lot working already10:12
_kuja_the silence must have been so awful :O10:12
intelikeyvge the docs on sendmail are pretty streight forward  although i've only set it up one time...  i got it to work and am network illiterate.10:13
bgsteffensyep haha10:13
goodthingsweeeeet, FC work with my three disk, /me is happy10:14
intelikeygoodthing is sbin in your path ?10:14
intelikeygoodthing i really would like to knw if fedora still leaves sbin out of user paths ?10:15
goodthingoops, sorry, was not looking, will look now10:15
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goodthingnope, that command is respondless10:15
goodthingoh, typo10:16
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goodthingno i am right, no output with that command intelikey10:16
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intelikeygoodthing that's why your user doesn't have fdisk  or any of the commands in */sbin/10:16
goodthingintelikey: ok, but from su it also does not seem to work10:17
intelikeygoodthing root has sbin in the path  so it sees things like fdisk.10:17
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intelikeysu is not root environment10:17
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intelikeysu -     is root environment10:17
goodthingi know, but fdisk cannot be found10:17
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goodthingseems to be in util-linux, but that is not installable...10:18
intelikeybut other commands would also be missing.  i'm just saying.10:18
goodthingi see10:18
intelikeyk10:18
goodthingthnx10:18
intelikeynp10:18
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intelikey<intelikey> su   is not root environment   <intelikey> su -     is root environment  <<< i hope you did catch that.10:22
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_kuja_I thought the only big difference was that su -         moved you to /root .... hmm, I might be wrong about that though10:23
intelikey_kuja_ it's total environment   sets ~ $HOME $PATH and all10:24
_kuja_Hmm10:24
intelikeytest it and see :)10:24
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vgei just can't understand why it dont send mail, i have sendmail installed, php.ini is referring to right path, but no mails send o.o10:25
_kuja_su (without -) sets $HOME, not sure about path, that I'll have to check10:25
_kuja_then again, I'd have to have different $PATH 's set to notice10:26
intelikeygames ?10:26
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_kuja_~ is also set10:26
intelikeyecho $PATH | grep game10:26
_kuja_(probably directly related to $HOME, of course)10:26
_kuja_/usr/games?10:27
intelikeythat is not in root's path by default10:27
_kuja_I never said I was suing to root :P10:27
_kuja_Fine, I'll check that10:27
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_kuja_Hmm, you're right, it won't set the path if you only su instead of su -10:29
intelikeyit wont set the path it wont cd you and other things...  i just don't remember what all10:29
RoKFiThow can I update my alsa driver?  there is a fix for my card.10:30
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intelikeyRoKFiT kewl   glad you found one.10:30
marlustem brasileiro ai10:30
RoKFiTbut i need to install it from our repos10:30
RoKFiThow can i install it?10:30
RoKFiTor update10:30
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_kuja_If you're running edgy, then you're about as up to date as you can get via the repos, unless you want to try feisty, which I really wouldn't recommend until April or so10:31
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intelikeyooops.10:31
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RoKFiTah, when will an update be released10:32
_kuja_That's just the thing, there probably won't be one in Edgy.10:32
_kuja_Unless you get extraordinarily lucky.10:32
RoKFiTi have to update the OS?10:32
intelikeyi bet dapper will get the patch10:33
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RoKFiTwell can someone help me compile a driver10:33
intelikey!LTS10:33
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.10:33
_kuja_compiling kernel drivers is not something I'm experienced at ...10:34
_kuja_how about you intelikey?10:34
__osh___kuja_: It's not that hard. Put it in the right dir and do a "make modules" iirc.10:34
intelikeyRoKFiT i can tell you you will need build-essential installed.   and you'll need the kernel source.  that's about as far as my help goes there.10:35
_kuja_and a lurker wakes up :D10:35
RoKFiTit's a module not a kernel driver10:35
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__osh__sorry, wasn't paying attention really. let's see if I can find your original question.10:36
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=== intelikey wonders what the differance is ???
_kuja_04:30:0210:37
_kuja_ < RoKFiT >  how can I update my alsa driver?  there is a fix for my card.10:37
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intelikeyyep looks like that would be a kernel module to me....10:37
_kuja_kernel modules do seem to perform the same functions as drivers, don't they?10:37
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RoKFiTwhat alsa driver is feisty using?10:38
__osh__yeah, looks like a module is what you're after to me too.10:38
intelikeymaybe we should stop making fun.  he's been working on that three days now.10:38
__osh__!alsa10:39
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:39
intelikeyRoKFiT sorry for the pun at you expence.  i'll try to refrain from such.10:39
RoKFiTgo ahead, i'd just like to get it working10:39
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intelikeyRoKFiT have you installed build-essential ?10:40
RoKFiTi'm about to10:40
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intelikeyRoKFiT have you dl'd the patch ?   and the kernel source ?10:40
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RoKFiTi have the alsa driver downloaded, yes10:42
RoKFiTkernel source, i'm not sure10:42
RoKFiTbuild-essential is installed10:42
intelikeyactually if it was me.   "not that you are me."  i'm probably just get the kernel source with the patched driver and build the whole kernel.  modules and all...   compile in what ever i wanted...10:42
intelikeybuilding a kernel is not that hard.  it just takes a little time.10:43
RoKFiTwhere do i get the kernel source10:43
intelikeykernel.org ?10:43
intelikeyif all you want is to build the driver10:44
intelikeythen get the ubuntu kernel source10:44
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intelikeypackagemanager10:44
RoKFiTwhat is the package called10:44
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_kuja_feisty has 1.0.13-2 ...10:45
intelikeylinux-source ?10:45
dave_intelikey adept wont download mt packeges anymore There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.10:45
_kuja_Shouldn't need the whole source to build a module10:45
_kuja_should only need:10:45
_kuja_linux-headers-`uname -r`10:45
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intelikeydave_ hmmm10:46
RoKFiTthey are installed10:46
tamacracker:\ check disk didn't do anythin for me intelikey10:47
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intelikeyopen the package and read the UPPERCASE.FILENAMES10:47
tamacrackercould it be because i installed fuse?10:47
intelikeycould i guess.  i don't know anything about fuse10:48
tamacrackeroh.10:48
dave_its like i have to remove the old dowloaded files out of adept before it will get the new one10:48
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intelikeytamacracker i was corrected about the cli name of that windows app  it's  chkdsk  not scandisk  sorry.10:49
RoKFiTokay now just ./configure and make the driver?10:49
tamacrackeryeah i did the check disk.10:50
intelikeydave_ that sounds like a broken install/configure of something.    close the package manager and in  a konsole do    sudo apt-get install -f     if it errors out pastebin the errors.10:51
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intelikeyif it does nothing .....  hmmmm     and if it corrects the problem stop using adept and start using synaptic.10:52
mankeletorhi all10:52
mankeletoranybody knows in what package comes sdl-config?10:52
intelikeygoodthing export PATH="$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin"10:53
_kuja_libsdl1.2-dev10:53
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max_is there anything similiar to Dameon Tools in Linux?10:54
RoKFiTwith feisty, can i do an upgrade?10:54
dave_ok ill try !10:54
_kuja_RoKFiT, you can upgrade to Feisty, but it might be more advisable to download the herd 1 cd instead. Trust me.10:55
mankeletor_kuja_: thanks10:55
RoKFiTwhoa how would i upgrade to it?10:55
tamacrackercan someone please help me mount my NTFS drive so it is writable10:56
_kuja_Unless you have a good grip on what you're doing, attempting to upgrade would leave  your system horribly broken ...10:56
tamacrackerthe steps I am using looks nothin like what i have10:56
RoKFiTexplain to me this method10:56
max_tamcracker: pop in a live cd and use qtparted10:56
_kuja_tamacracker, there are two ways, ntfs-fuse and ntfs3g10:56
tamacrackeranything that's more stable10:57
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mankeletor32 dependencies for libsdl1.2-dev :S10:57
max_tamcracker: that is stable10:57
tamacrackerim using fuse but fuse screwed it up and it made it to a read only./10:57
momal!info qt4-dev10:57
ubotuPackage qt4-dev does not exist in any distro I know10:57
RoKFiTkuja10:57
_kuja_RoKFiT: edit the /etc/fstab, change all instances of edgy to feisty, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade10:57
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momal!info libqt4-dev10:58
ubotulibqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 4087 kB, installed size 19996 kB10:58
bgsteffenshow can i check remaining file size on a mounted hard drive?10:58
momalCan someone tell me if they are able to install libqt4-dev... because i get broken deps :(10:58
RoKFiTedgy is not found in /etc/fstab10:59
intelikeybgsteffens df10:59
tamacrackerCan someone please help me get my NTFS HD to be write-able, it is currently read-only.10:59
RoKFiTcan i just apt-get dist-upgrade?10:59
_kuja_momal: I can10:59
_kuja_Which mirror are you using?10:59
bgsteffensty. also, do i have to explicitly umount a hard drive before i can physically remove it?10:59
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goodthingintelikey: what does that?10:59
tamacrackerhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows <- looks nothin like this when i follow these instructions10:59
_kuja_RoKFiT, You'll end up fighting broken dependencies and other fun things. Only do it if you know how to deal with them.11:00
goodthingbrb, need some coffee11:00
intelikeygoodthing adds sbin to your path.11:00
tamacrackerCan someone please help me get my NTFS HD to be write-able, it is currently read-only.11:00
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goodthing^_^11:00
momal_kuja_: Just archive.ubuntu.com ones. you ?11:00
bgsteffenstamacracker: did you do chown?11:00
RoKFiTwhat other things?11:00
intelikeygoodthing but only for that shell and any sub-shells.11:00
tamacrackerchown?...11:00
dave_dave@dave-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install -f11:00
_kuja_Same, just checking that it was us.archive.ubuntu.com, which I've had trouble with on several occasions11:00
dave_Password:11:00
dave_Reading package lists... Done11:00
dave_Building dependency tree... Done11:00
dave_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.11:00
dave_dave@dave-desktop:~$11:00
dave_dave@dave-desktop:~$11:00
tamacracker / join #beryl11:01
dave_i dont know what to do now sorry?11:01
_kuja_RoKFiT: how about dapper?11:01
bgsteffenstamacracker sudo chown brian:brian /mnt/location if your login name is brian11:01
RoKFiTwhat about it11:01
majnooni'm using a radeon 7000 pci video card glxgears only averaging 60 fps11:01
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_kuja_is it found in your sources.list?11:01
RoKFiTis it more suitable to me?11:01
RoKFiTno11:01
Lynouredave_: you can say "I'll use pastebin next time" :)11:01
shiftmeistercan you disable trash on kubuntu ? plz11:02
intelikeydave_ ok the package database is clean and all installed packages are configured   so if adept is giving problems try to apt-get what ever you want and see what happens.11:02
_kuja_majnoon, sounds like that's probably normal, I think I got around 90-100 with my old 970011:02
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RoKFiT_kuja_: add repo and update?11:02
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intelikeydave_ what were you trying to install ?11:02
tamacrackerchown: cannot access `/mnt/location': No such file or directory11:02
dave_kk sorry about the spam guys i am just a microsoft boy11:02
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bgsteffenstamacracker put /mnt/location as the spot in your filesystem that you mounted the ntfs drive11:03
_kuja_RoKFiT, just change dapper/edgy to feisty, then do the update & dist-upgrade. Unless you know how to deal with broken deps though, I don't really recommend it.11:03
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majnooni have a onboard i810 and it's agp settings still loaded that hurt it ??11:03
Alarmhello i tried to instal java from the package manager, everything goes actually fine. till a point that the installation stopped. so i pressed on details and so that it shows the license aggrement, but it seems that it doesnt accept neither "enter" nor "yes" so the installation doesnt go forward. some how i dont have access in the console window or i dont know what else11:03
RoKFiTchange edgy to feisty where?11:03
Alarmactually thats what i see: Operating System Distributor License for Java v1.1 (DLJ)  plus some other text11:03
RoKFiTin sources.list?11:03
momal_kuja_: any ideas what I can do to fix: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ | info from apt-get11:03
intelikeydave_ what were you trying to do exactly ?    when you had the trubble with adept ?11:03
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tamacrackeryou mean: /media/hda111:04
bgsteffenstamacracker yea if that's where you mounted it11:04
tamacrackerchown: changing ownership of `/media/hda1': Read-only file system11:04
dave_i was trying to download wine and the mp3 codecs11:04
bgsteffensO_O11:05
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RoKFiT_kuja_: where do i edit edgy to feisty11:05
RoKFiTnothing is in fstab11:05
max_im trying to install CDemu and when i do <make> it says </bin/sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number> what does this mean?11:05
_kuja_RoKFiT: /etc/apt/sources.list11:05
majnoonis there a way to switch intel_agp to ati_agp ??11:05
tamacracker... what do i do now?11:05
intelikeydave ok   do this in the konsole;  sudo apt-get wine11:05
intelikeysee what it does.11:05
_kuja_*install11:05
majnoonis there a way to switch intel_agp to ati_agp ??11:06
shiftmeisterhello anyone?11:06
Alarmany tips for the problem i got ?11:06
shiftmeisteri have a question plz11:06
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bgsteffenstamacracker that's all i knew to try, i'm a noob ^^, hopefully one of the pros here can take it over11:06
RoKFiTall dappers and edgys or just edgy11:06
tamacrackeroh man11:06
shiftmeisterguys ?11:06
intelikeywow RoKFiT you have dapper and edgy in your sources.list ?11:07
_kuja_Alarm, try doing it from the konsole instead, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre11:07
max_just ask it shiftmeister11:07
RoKFiTdapper for wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/11:07
intelikeyhmmmmm11:07
momalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ <-- can anyone help me >_<... trouble installing libqt4-dev11:07
Alarmno what to do ? close the package manager ? will that maybe destroy everything or it will be overwritten and everything wil be ok11:07
shiftmeistercan u disable trash on kubuntu?11:08
mankeletorwhat's the $HOST for kubuntu? I have edgy 6.1011:08
_kuja_momal: quite the strange problem you're having with the broken packages ... Are you using Dapper or Edgy?11:08
momaledgy11:08
_kuja_mankeletor: I don't seem to get anything from echo $HOST11:09
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_kuja_momal, maybe it's a result of the recent update?11:09
RoKFiTsources.list is changed, sudo apt-get update?11:09
intelikeyanyone have the url of the w32codecs.deb package ?11:09
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_kuja_RoKFiT: right11:09
tamacrackerCan someone please help me get my NTFS HD to be write-able, it is currently read-only.11:09
intelikeyRoKFiT that would be the next logical step11:09
RoKFiTmany packages are installing11:10
momal_kuja_: recent update?... when I first tried was around 2 weeks ago and it did it then11:10
intelikeyRoKFiT you have been warned that there may not be a complete enough repo to support that upgrade yet.11:10
_kuja_tamacracker, pull up konqueror, type in uwiki ntfs-3g11:10
tamacrackeraren't all these different file extensions gonna screw up my HD?11:10
RoKFiTi will try it11:10
RoKFiTwhat is the next step11:11
tamacrackercan I just delete fuse11:11
tamacrackerand start from scratch11:11
intelikeysudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:11
_kuja_Yes, and repeatedly. It took me about a half hour to an hour to get Feisty fully up to snuff11:11
tamacrackerim not using fuse, i hate fuse, fuse ruined the whole write access.11:11
_kuja_All of which was fighting broken packages11:11
RoKFiTCould not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock11:11
intelikeyand good luck to your hat.11:11
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mankeletor_kuja_: That's right, for that reason Im asking. echo $HOST give you nothing on slack, but you can do export HOST=i486-slackware-linux and you're ready for packaging :)11:12
_kuja_fuse != 3g, last time I checked11:12
intelikeyrokfit  is another package manager running ?11:12
Alarmwhy do i get that: alarm@rockpc:/$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk11:12
AlarmE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.11:12
Alarm11:12
RoKFiTyes, fetching updates...11:12
Alarm?11:12
_kuja_makeletor, you can export it on kubuntu as well11:13
majnoondo you think the kernel still loading intel_agp slowing card??11:13
intelikeyRoKFiT only one at a time.11:13
RoKFiTone update at a time?11:13
_kuja_Alarm: probably because you did, doing that should fix things though11:13
intelikeyone package manager11:13
RoKFiTk11:13
RoKFiT58811:14
intelikey<RoKFiT> Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock <<<<intelikey> RoKFiT only one at a time.11:14
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RoKFiT15 installs, 588 updates11:14
RoKFiTand this wine repo is giving me troubles11:14
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intelikeythat's what the "lock" file is there for.   to "lock" it.11:15
Alarm_kuja_,  still get errors: You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:11:15
AlarmThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:15
Alarm  sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (=11:15
Alarmdid it with apt-get -f install but get again the same message11:15
intelikeylike the lock inside a restroom stall.   one at a time.11:15
_kuja_do an apt-get remove sun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin11:15
_kuja_Then install them over again11:15
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Alarmok i think something worked now11:16
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jovanshallo11:17
RoKFiTbrb11:17
_kuja_hello11:17
jovansich hab mal ne frage11:17
Alarmsomething strange happened. although java -version 1.5.0 is installed . in the adept manager i see that jdk and jre arent installed11:17
jovanswo kann ich in kubuntu einstellen das kde mit einer neuen session startet also nicht automatisch speichert welche config datei ist dafr verantwortlich?11:17
_kuja_!de11:18
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:18
jovans#kubuntu-de11:18
jovansna gut11:18
_kuja_Alarm: try installing them?11:18
Alarmok i think fixed11:18
Alarmthank you a lot11:18
_kuja_you're welcome11:19
Alarmhow can i find the path of java installed ? last question :)11:19
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_kuja_/usr/lib/jvm/11:19
Alarmand /urs/lib/jdk is the development librar y ?11:19
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_kuja_they should all go inside /usr/lib/jvm, gcj resides in /usr/lib/jvm as well11:20
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Alarmokie thanks:)11:20
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ForgeAushey all :) I'm back.. .and a little wizer... well not alot, but slowly getting there11:21
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intelikey /usr/local/src/bin/music: line 24: file: command not found  <<<< what's the gripe there ?     is it  "file" the command that is not found ?11:21
intelikeydoes anyone have the command   file ?11:22
_kuja_looks that way ....11:22
_kuja_I have the command file11:22
intelikeyhmmm ok.11:22
intelikeyty.11:22
_kuja_/usr/bin/file11:22
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intelikeywhat installed it ?11:22
achemsame here11:22
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_kuja_contained in the package file ...11:22
intelikeyok11:23
ForgeAusuh one question about adept...11:23
intelikeythat's simple enough.11:23
ForgeAusif you allow proprietry software does athat mean its al lshareaware?11:23
ForgeAusgrr shareware11:23
intelikeyForgeAus no that means non-free11:24
intelikey!free11:24
ubotufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing11:24
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ForgeAushmmm ok... another question what's the difff between debian and ubuntu... (I mean I know ubuntu is based on debian)11:25
intelikeyah i found the offending code...  do if file $Q | grep audio > /dev/null 2>&111:25
intelikeyseems that i need to install file,  cause that is important....11:26
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_kuja_release cycle, commercial support, some packages, different userbase, different target audience11:26
intelikeydifferent default also11:26
max_how do i unmount an ISO i mounted?11:26
intelikeyumount it11:27
ForgeAusyou can mount iso's kewl :)11:27
_kuja_mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint11:27
intelikeyForgeAus yes or floppy.img files11:27
_kuja_might also need -t iso9660 or similar11:27
intelikeyor hd.img files11:27
max_intelikey: is it the same command but umount11:27
ForgeAusthe only problem now with VMWare is its slow :(...11:27
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intelikeyno just umount file.iso11:28
intelikeyor sudo umount file.iso11:28
max_oh ok11:28
max_thanks11:28
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_kuja_or wait, I missed the un. Lovely11:28
tamacrackermount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-3g'11:28
intelikeyto mount you do   sudo mount file.iso mount/point/ -o loop11:28
max_sudo: unmount: command not found11:29
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intelikeyi didn't say unmount11:29
Jucatoumount11:29
max_ooooh11:29
max_sorry11:29
tamacrackerwas i supposed to do this: /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    011:29
Admiral_Chicagohmm, stil working on that?11:30
intelikeyyou can even mount cram images11:30
tamacrackerme?11:30
tamacrackerI've been tryin to mount my ntfs drive so i can write onto it for the last 4 hours11:30
Admiral_Chicagotamacracker: ya, iirc, i think you were doing that when i left11:30
Admiral_Chicagodamn11:30
_kuja_intelikey, if you can, it probably involves putting a -t cramfs or similar11:30
ForgeAuskuja its ok, just not fast enough for me thats all11:30
jovanscan everybody say me where kde is storering the last session11:30
tamacrackerI wish Jon was online11:30
intelikeyin fact in linux you can mount anything except tamacracker's ntfs   which defies all logic.11:30
_kuja_or was it squashfs11:30
Admiral_Chicagohave fun with that,...(back up your data!)11:30
tamacrackerJon only took 5 or so minutes11:31
jovansi cannot start the kde controll center it crashes how do it manualy that kde starts with a blank session?11:31
jovanswich config file11:31
_kuja_ForgeAus, I've got an FX-60 and 2GB of RAM, so it only makes sense that I wouldn't notice speed problems :D11:31
Admiral_Chicagojovans: what do ou mean control center?11:31
tamacracker#ubuntu #dapper #beryl #ntfs11:31
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Jucatohi Admiral_Chicago! :)11:32
jovansthe session manager11:32
_kuja_kcontrol crashes?11:32
Admiral_Chicagoah you can't get past KDM?11:32
jovansin kde11:32
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intelikey_kuja_ yes there is a list in /proc/filesystems  of the fs's that do and don't need  -t11:32
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Admiral_Chicagojovans: you log in and everything is blank?11:32
jovansno11:32
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: ever do a KDM theme?11:33
jovans it restore automaticly the last session i want to login with a ne blank session11:33
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: nooooope :)11:33
Admiral_Chicagoah i see11:33
jovanswich vonfig file i have to edit?11:33
Admiral_Chicagohmm, i'm working on one now.11:33
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: hehe have fun! :)11:33
intelikeyor that shouldn't need -t  i should say.11:33
Admiral_Chicagojovans: i understnad, i'm not really sure11:33
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i'm lost on what i should be doing11:33
jovanseverybody knows?11:34
jovanswich are the config file11:34
tamacrackerDoes anyone know if I'm supposed to have this in the fstab?: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    011:34
Admiral_Chicagoi'll ping PyroMithrandir when I see him online11:34
Admiral_Chicagoor ask him when he comes to my house11:34
Jucato:)11:34
_kuja_brb, restarting X11:34
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momalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ <-- can anyone help me >_<... trouble installing libqt4-dev11:35
intelikeyjovans i don't know the config file... but you can select to not restore from within kde   not sure if that helps you...11:35
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RoKFiT61%11:36
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_kuja_and I'm back, with beryl 1.3 :)11:37
_kuja_erm, 0.1.311:37
RoKFiTsweet11:37
intelikeyeeeek "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!11:37
intelikeywhat i need is  gnupg ?11:37
_kuja_you need to find the signers public key, and then apt-key add it11:38
RoKFiTis the feisty repos updating alsa?11:38
intelikey_kuja_ ubuntu main11:38
crubeI thought of trying Beryl out, but my graphic drivers seem to be messed up for some reason. I have an integrated graphic chip on my laptop and it hasn't been working well with Edgy :(11:38
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intelikeynow do i need gnupg ?11:38
_kuja_RoKFiT: Edgy has alsa 1.0.11, Feisty has alsa 1.0.1311:38
RoKFiTso yes?11:38
_kuja_intelikey, I don't think so11:38
_kuja_Indeed11:39
RoKFiTwill my pc just reboot into feisty after apt-get dist-upgrade11:39
intelikey_kuja_ then what does dpkg use to authenticate packages ?11:39
Ash-FoxThat reminds me.. I need to import my own stupid GPG key, so apt will stop crying about the lack of my key11:39
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intelikeyah GPG key   so it is gnupg then ?11:40
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RoKFiTwindows people call a computer a pc, apple people a mac, what do linux people call a computer?11:40
intelikeybox11:40
RoKFiTseriously?11:40
Ash-Foxintelikey, you probably just need to import the package maintainer's key11:40
ForgeAusyup a box11:40
ForgeAusits a windows box a linux box and osx box, etc... :)11:40
zamaliphehow can i get the kernel boot masgs ?11:40
RoKFiTlinux box11:41
_kuja_intelikey, it is, but I don't think it requires it to do the authentication11:41
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RoKFiTit should be LC11:41
RoKFiTi'm going on my lc11:41
intelikeywell i installed gnupg   we'll see if that fixes it on my next package i deside to install.11:41
RoKFiTlinux computer11:41
ForgeAusI tend to chunk linux, bsd, solaris unix, etc in the one *nix category...11:41
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RoKFiTis freebsd nice/11:42
Ash-Foxintelikey, doubt it11:42
_kuja_intelikey: apt-cache search keyring11:42
ForgeAusI wouldn't have a clue11:42
RoKFiToh11:42
Ash-FoxIf you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number):11:42
RoKFiTits just kde11:42
Ash-Foxgpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY11:42
Ash-Foxgpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -11:42
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RoKFiTtoo many distros when all they really differ in is repos and how they boot11:42
_kuja_Ash-Fox, that must have been funny. Probably true in both respects :D11:43
ForgeAusI was thinking of getting a few distros like knoppix and an rpm based one like mandriva or fedora core to toy with11:43
intelikeyRoKFiT :)11:43
ForgeAusand see how they compare to kubuntu11:43
ForgeAusbut other than that... I have no idea11:43
RoKFiTkubuntu is like the sleek11:43
WindwalkerHi. Can somebody tell me if snd-xxxx drivers are part of ALSA?11:43
ForgeAusperhaps even freespire11:43
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Ash-FoxForgeAus, I'd urge you to try mandriva over fedora11:43
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ForgeAuskubuntu seems to be mostly user friendly11:44
RoKFiTkubuntu is just what you need11:44
_kuja_Windwalker: all drivers preceded by snd- are alsa drivers11:44
_kuja_AFAIK11:44
Ash-FoxFor the fact that mandriva comes with it's configuration utilities for hardware and such (like drakconf), something unique that other distros don't really have11:44
ForgeAuswell kubuntu I think I'll stick with... the rest are just for comparison11:44
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RoKFiT_kuja_: do i just reboot after apt-get dist-upgrade11:44
_kuja_Mandrake did have some nice configuration tools, I'll give it that (in fact, I bet it still does)11:44
Ash-FoxAlthough, saying that. I still choose to use Kubuntu over Mandriva as my main desktop11:44
Ace2016how do i find what screen i'm using, beryl says:11:44
Ace2016beryl-xgl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 011:45
Ace2016beryl-xgl: No manageable screens found on display :1.011:45
WindwalkerOk. If I have description on my multimedia controller like: ALSA emulation #10, then how can I tell which snd-xxxx is ALSA using, _kuja_?11:45
_kuja_RoKFiT, I would seriously recommend checking that EVERYTHING got upgraded first.11:45
_kuja_do another dist-upgrade to check11:45
intelikeyRoKFiT if the kernel and boot loader are both updated propperly.11:45
RoKFiTokay11:45
Ash-FoxAce2016, tried ctrl + alt + backspace?11:45
ForgeAusis there a virtual windows manager that makes your desktop like a cube?... that you can spin for alternate desktops??11:45
Ash-FoxForgeAus, es.11:45
Ace2016Ash-Fox: many times, and then i logged back in and it still broken11:45
RoKFiTcompiz11:45
Ace2016ForgeAus: yup, beryl11:46
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_kuja_Windwalker, not sure, take a look at lsmod | grep snd. Most of them are generic dependencies of the specific one for your hardware. For example mine uses snd-intelx8011:46
Ash-FoxAce2016, well.. That sucks. :<11:46
ForgeAuskewl :) i'll check it out11:46
_kuja_**8x011:46
intelikeyRoKFiT and yes it doesn't hurt to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:46
WindwalkerI forgot about lsmod :) Thank you _kuja_11:46
Ace2016Ash-Fox: it doesn't, i was using it yesterday and i love it, the options are great and it has everything that i used to use kwin for and the effects are very nice and the manager is good too11:46
RoKFiTthat sucks that there aren't ever driver upgrades11:47
_kuja_yw Windwalker11:47
RoKFiT91%11:47
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intelikeybeing using now the development alpha   or pre-alpha   you will want to  sudo apt-get update && sudo e11:47
Admiral_Chicagoping to anyone11:47
intelikeybeing using now the development alpha   or pre-alpha   you will want to  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     on a regular basis.11:47
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intelikeylike daily.11:48
Ace2016But it doesn't slow anything down11:48
_kuja_These effects can of course be turned off, ash-fox11:48
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Admiral_Chicagonwm11:48
Admiral_Chicagobed time11:48
Ace2016and its like osx's see all the windows at the same time thing, its very useful11:48
_kuja_Again?11:48
Ash-Fox_kuja_, which I do. :P11:48
intelikeyAce2016 affects take time.   it may be unnoticable by it's there.11:49
_kuja_I set mine to fade, all of the other ones serve to annoy me ... or fascinate me to the point that I do them over and over again thus losing productivity11:49
Ace2016intelikey: unnoticable is ok with me11:49
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intelikey:)11:49
Ash-Foxthe only animation I leave on, is Yakuake's drop down animation (Although it's set todo it really quickly)11:50
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RoKFiTno, that did not work!11:51
_kuja_What didn't work?11:51
intelikeysound still pops ?11:51
RoKFiTi got an error that it couldn't commit to updating something11:52
RoKFiTadept updater11:52
_kuja_I tried to tell you that would happen ...11:52
RoKFiTi'll go burn the cd, brb11:52
_kuja_I wish I had an internet connection as fast as rokfits :O11:53
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ForgeAusdamn I don't remember my ident password11:53
ForgeAusin fact I'm suprised  it still exists11:54
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_kuja_6am sounds like a good time to go to bed to me ... hahaha11:56
ForgeAusyup it was me11:56
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_kuja_Have fun11:56
goodthinghehe11:57
goodthingFC is not for me, is just isn' t11:57
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goodthingbut i can backup my data now11:57
_kuja_backups are good11:58
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max_i just removed a 2gb partition, is there anyway to add this to my main partition without having to reinstall?11:59
max_or make the partition show up as a second drive11:59
_kuja_goodthing: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd1/Kubuntu could be worth a try. Keeping in mind it's rather, erm, experimental12:00
momalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ | Anyone I can't get libqt4-dev to install and I need it.. HELP12:00
intelikeyit's amazing what all you can mount in linux.    sudo mount -o reomount,ro,umask=777 /dev/_kuja_'s/brain /media/silly/things/to/play/with12:00
goodthing_kuja_: i think i am going for the alternative to use one 750 SATA disk as OS for normal use and put the two maxtors in RAID1 for backup12:01
goodthingdunno how that will turn out, but it is worth trying i guess12:01
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_kuja_Hopefully that will work then12:01
goodthingyeah, trying is knowing12:02
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__osh__Still looking for someone running acidfree....12:03
max_i just removed a 2gb partition, is there anyway to add this to my main partition without having to reinstall?12:03
__osh__max_: Sure, if you're running lvm.12:03
max_wgar us lvm?12:03
__osh__max_: huh?12:04
max_what is lvm*12:04
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Ace2016direct rendering: No12:04
Ace2016OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!12:04
max_sorry, wasnt loooking12:04
__osh__!lvm12:04
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO12:04
_kuja_!lvm12:04
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Ace2016How do i enable direct rendering?12:04
intelikeyor you can just make it a mountpoint12:04
intelikey!ati | Ace201612:04
ubotuAce2016: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:04
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__osh__max_: The ugly solution would be to just mount it under some directory. But that wouldn't expand your disk, just give you some more space to put stuff in.12:05
__osh__max_: It depends on what you want.12:05
intelikey__osh__ like /var maybe12:05
malik__hi guyzz. i have biiiiiig problem..............installed amsn 0.96 n its not working and it also installed something called manage 3rd party software............how do i get rid of all of em coz im unable to uninstall any of them12:05
malik__im using edgy kubuntu12:06
__osh__intelikey: like /var or somewhere under ~ depending on what he needs.12:06
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ForgeAusedgy here too12:06
ForgeAusfeisty sounds interesting tho12:06
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Ace2016intelikey: i did all that already, i'm in xgl now12:07
intelikeyyes  i agree    it all depends.12:07
intelikeyAce2016 all that ?12:07
__osh__ForgeAus: What in feisty sounds interesting. So far I don't see anything spectacular in it.12:07
intelikeyAce2016 how to enable dri is in some of that12:07
max_osh: thats all i need is mroe space to put MP#'s in12:07
__osh__max_: MP#?12:08
AzzcoMP312:08
max_MP3* sorrt12:08
max_sorry*12:08
__osh__Ah.12:08
_kuja_hostname bed && sleep 4h12:08
__osh__Then just mount it somewhere. Don't bother with lvm.12:08
momalAnyone that can install libqt4-dev can i have a look at your sources.list file please12:08
__osh__!fstab12:08
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions12:08
max_when you mount it dosnt it dissappear everytime you restart though12:09
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malik__can any one tell me how to remove amsn 0.96 from command line(konsole)12:09
Azzcoone sec momal12:09
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intelikeymax_ mkdir ~/more_space && sudo mount /dev/<devicenode> ~/more_space12:09
__osh__max_: Have a look at the fstab link on how to add a directory.12:09
max_ok, thanks osh12:09
_kuja_|sleepmomal, one moment then12:09
__osh__max_: or have a look at intelikey's solution.12:09
intelikeyboth actually12:09
intelikeyi was just adding to what you said12:10
Azzcomomal: how do you want me to give you the file?12:10
momalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ will be fine thanks :)12:10
Ace2016intelikey: where does it say how to enable dri?12:10
_kuja_|sleepmomal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37895/12:10
Azzcosomeone was faster ;)12:10
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intelikeyAce2016 sec.12:11
intelikeyAce2016 what card ?12:11
flem_having updated my laptop to edgy, I can't write anything in any x-programs12:11
tamacrackerhow do i uninstall fuse?12:11
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AzzcoHas anyone got Konference installed? I got a few errors last time I tried to build it...12:11
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intelikeytamacracker how did you install it ?12:11
Ace2016intelikey: nvidia12:12
tamacrackerthrough wget12:12
Ace2016OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!12:12
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intelikeytamacracker wget only downloads things.12:12
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intelikeydpkg ?12:12
tamacrackerit wasn't through adept12:12
intelikeyanyone can help Ace2016 with nvidia ?12:13
tamacrackerthere's a fuse link i used12:13
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tamacrackerthat i had to type in wget12:13
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tamacrackerthen added it to my source list12:13
intelikeytamacracker then use adept and uninstall it.12:13
tamacrackerok12:14
momaldammit >_<... still broken package GARR!!12:14
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intelikeyAce2016 i've never setup nvidia.  i'm not the one to ask about that.12:14
tamacrackerget rid of libfuse2 as well?12:15
intelikeymomal what you did ?12:15
intelikeytamacracker yeah12:15
tamacrackerk12:15
momalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/12:15
momaltrying to install libqt4-dev12:15
intelikeymomal you know about nvidia ?12:15
momalyea i have nvidia drivers installed... latest ones i think.. or close to latest from the site12:16
intelikeymomal that looks like a repos issue.12:16
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momalI first noticed it 2 weeks ago when i needed it then but just forgot about it but now i need it >_<12:16
_kuja_|sleepbah, before I actually force myself out of my chair, which I should have done 5 minutes ago: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx  && sudo nvidia-xconfig12:17
intelikeymomal put up you sources.list for me.12:17
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intelikey_kuja_|sleep to late12:17
intelikey-:- SignOff Ace2016: #kubuntu (Remote closed the connection)12:17
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_kuja_|sleepWow, All the more proof that I need that sleep12:18
intelikey:)12:18
momalintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37902/12:18
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tamacracker#ubuntu12:19
malik__hi .......can any one tell me how do i remove amsn 0.96 from my computer?12:19
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Ace2016intelikey: i'm back, x crashed12:20
Azzcomalik__: That depends on how you installed it.12:20
intelikeyAce2016 sudo nvidia-xconfig12:20
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Ace2016intelikey: what does that do?12:21
intelikeymomal try commenting out the last two byrl and scype  and sudo apt-get update  then try it.12:21
intelikeyAce2016 that's the anwser to your question about dri12:21
tamacrackeris there any way i can check what modifications have been done to my drive, a while back i made my ntfs a read only, and i don't remember how i did it.12:22
intelikeyAce2016 you said you had the drivers installed already...  the full answer was "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx  && sudo nvidia-xconfig"12:22
malik__Azzco: i installed it from its website .......... it also installed something called manage 3rd party software in edgy's system foledr menu and nothin nothing works.............niether amsn nor that 3rdparty thingy which can supposedly remove the software12:22
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malik__should i manually remove th directories?12:23
Ace2016intelikey: i already did that bit too12:23
intelikeytamacracker physically  or software changes ?12:24
tamacrackersoftware12:24
intelikeyAce2016 thats about as far as i can go down that road.12:24
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tamacrackeri remember i followed instructions from a site, on how to access my windows xp drive as read only12:25
tamacrackerbut i dunno where i made the modifications12:25
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intelikeytamacracker hmmm12:25
malik__fstab wud b my guess12:26
Azzcomalik__: Did you download a .deb file? if I right click a .deb file I get a menu with optiones to install and uninstall12:26
intelikeymalik__ not this time.12:26
daveok intelikey io sort of workrd it out adept is still playing up it will download like evey second file after  i restart and stuffarond a bit more, but i got WINE on there and tryed to install itunes12:26
daveand it says it installed it but i cant find it?12:26
intelikeytried a manual mount and it's just not writable.  not even when it says it is.12:26
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Ace2016How do i find which x display this is?12:28
intelikeydave i'm not much on wine.   (i don't do winsdows)   but check ~/.wine/12:28
momalintelikey: Still same :(12:28
intelikeymomal hmmm  let me revisit the paste....   sec.12:28
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malik__Azzco: no i downloaded the generic installer which is at the top of the download page............and it downloaded and installed something called "manage 3rd party software"12:29
AzzcoOhh.. I didn't check that out to hard myself... Sorry but I can't help you malik__ :(12:29
intelikeymomal what was the package name ?12:29
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momallibqt4-dev12:29
intelikey!libqt4-dev12:30
ubotulibqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 4087 kB, installed size 19996 kB12:30
intelikeyhmmmm12:30
malik__okie thats hwere its installed............../usr/bin/amsn should i use rm command to remove it?12:31
intelikey!libglu1-xorg-dev12:31
ubotulibglu1-xorg-dev: transitional package for Debian etch. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB12:31
intelikey!libglu1-mesa-dev12:31
ubotulibglu1-mesa-dev: The OpenGL utility library -- development support files. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 780 kB12:31
intelikeymomal run sudo apt-get libglu1-mesa-dev    lets see if it errors12:32
momalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37903/12:32
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intelikeymomal ok.   i don't know for sure what to tell you.  that's what happens when you add repos that are not sync'd with ubuntu to install things that are out side the ubuntu repos.  it breaks things.12:35
max_what does the "swap" partition do?12:35
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malik__okie thats hwere its installed............../usr/bin/amsn should i use rm command to remove it?...........can any one suggest?12:35
momalthen how can i fix the only things i ended up installing were amarok and skype... beryl i compile from soure and cinerella i havn't had a chance yet to try12:36
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intelikeywhat you have is  a newer/unrecognized version installed and either you will have to remove it (which will probably take the package you installed it for, with it)   or force a downgrade on that package.  or find some other third party way of doing it.12:37
max_what does the "swap" partition do?12:37
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momalso i need to remove: libglu1-mesa12:37
intelikeymomal i'd sujest sudo apt-get remove libglu1-mesa    yes.12:38
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intelikeybut i bet it takes skype with it.12:38
momalrofl.. its going to take kde as well and everything with kde12:39
intelikeyhehhe actually yeah i just noticed it's xorg12:39
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tamacrackermuahahahaha12:39
tamacrackerfinally!!12:39
tamacrackeri got it to work!12:39
tamacrackerthrough 3g :D12:39
intelikeyso you can try a forced downgrade12:39
momalbut from the error it seems to want a older version when a newer one will be installed12:39
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intelikeytamacracker glad for you.12:40
momalhow i do a downgrade?12:40
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tamacracker:D12:40
intelikeydl the package12:40
intelikeyand sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade packagename.deb12:40
intelikeyor force-all12:41
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momal6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 <-- so thats the one i want ?12:41
Ash-Foxforce-all might cause a depedency issue though?12:41
intelikeyand you are asking for other things to bread when you do.12:41
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mirkohi12:41
momalAsh-Fox I already have enough of them it wont hurt to have more lol!12:41
intelikeyAsh-Fox he's alredy got broken packages.12:42
mirkowhere i can find repository for kubuntu 6.10 amd64?12:42
momalAsh-Fox: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ <-- my prob12:42
momalnow to find the package12:42
intelikeymomal you can go ahead with the  "sudo apt-get remove libglu1-mesa"    then follow that with   "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop "   it's a little cleaner than a reload.12:43
momalO_O.. that will remove everything though12:44
intelikeymomal and word to the wise.  in some cases it's better to compile what is not in the repos than to use repos that are not for your distro.12:45
mirkowho can help me??? where i can find kubuntu repository??12:45
mirkofor amd64?12:45
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intelikey!repos | mirko12:45
ubotumirko: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:45
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momalumm skype was the only thing i installed... and they don't have source12:45
momalcinerella I havn't installed yet and i compile beryl12:46
intelikeyfigures....12:46
malik__can any one help with uninstalling amsn and manage 3rd party software thingy?12:46
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momali had this problem before i got skype12:46
intelikeywell the added repos did it.12:47
malik__can any one help with uninstalling amsn and manage 3rd party software thingy............they both are giving me grief12:47
jerpmirko, here's a compiled list posted, you'll have to work it to your specs......   http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html12:47
momalbut if i didn't install anything then how could they have screwed it up ?12:47
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max_hi, i have a 2.2gb partiton as a hd, and when i go to mount it it says " An Unknown Error Has Occured" anyone know how to fix this?12:47
intelikeymomal schedualed update ?12:47
momaleh?12:48
momalI have it update when i choose to update12:48
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mirkothanks to all12:48
malik__can any one help with uninstalling amsn and manage 3rd party software thingy............they both are giving me grief12:49
intelikeysee the thing is that if the package manager sees a newer version of * it installes.  it doesn't do a sanity check on that to make sure other packages will still be avalable12:49
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momalI dont' update though.. I only update certain programs I want it to update and I always check what it updates.12:49
momaland the extra reps that were there were only added today and skype was 2 days ago.. amarok when i first installed edgy and beryl had never been uncommented it.. I added it there if the compile didn't work12:50
intelikeyso i see people adding third party repos to their sources.list so they can get the latest and greatest.....  then they come here cause the package manager is hosed......12:51
momalI got the latest amarok.. just like a ton of other people seems to work for them still.. and I had the problem before any of the others were added12:51
intelikeymomal you added repos   correct ?     did you install anything after that ?12:52
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momalskype that was it... but i looked and all it installed was the skype package nothing else12:52
momalbut I had this problem before I got skype12:52
jerpis it true to say that 'dev' files are for writing and not installing software?  eg. a user shouldn't need 'dev' files installed.12:53
momaldev files are for comping12:53
momalI need it to compile kdenlive12:53
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intelikeywell  where did you get  "libglu1-mesa-6.5.1+cvs20060824 ?12:53
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momalno idea... if i knew I would have bom barden them with questios12:54
Zamber!composite12:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:54
nuxilhow do i make a rar archive thats password protected ?12:54
momalif its newer why should the other package care :S12:54
intelikeyDepends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is to be installed12:56
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nuxilhu huuu12:56
intelikeymomal do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:56
cox377is there a command to mount all drives [local] 12:57
Hobbseeintelikey: that's unofficial compiz breakage12:57
sonicGBmount -a12:57
intelikeyHobbsee hmm12:57
cox377sonicGB: cheers12:57
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intelikeywill that fix it ?12:57
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Hobbseeintelikey: i believe you have to dpkg -i the deb you want ( the lower version) of libglu1-mesa, then upgrade12:58
momalso stop the update now ?12:58
cox377sonicGB: is there a command to list all mounted?12:58
intelikeyHobbsee k12:58
intelikeymomal no12:58
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momalk12:58
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nuxilhow can i do it ?12:59
Hobbseeintelikey: and give the lecture about unofficial repos breaking things, of course12:59
sonicGBcox377: "mount" with no options will list all, some say that using "df" (disk free" is a safer way... nothing breaks if you typo with 'df'12:59
intelikey:)12:59
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intelikeywe just had that.12:59
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Hobbseeintelikey: oh good12:59
momalwell it was skype or amarok that broke it since I didn't install after adding cinerella to it12:59
momaland it was happening long before i even added them in01:00
sonicGBcox377: both "mount" and "df" will list all ordinary mounted filesystems, in different ways...01:00
intelikeymomal Hobbsee said "compiz"  you got that ?01:00
cox377has anyone here used a distro called 'insert'?01:00
Hobbseeintelikey: beryl's another possibility, but i think that was compiz breakage01:01
momalI never installed compiz... omfg.. that would mean .... hmm well I never installed compiz after i got edgy only compiled beryl...01:01
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momalbut is this possible: installing compiz... later removing it... updating to edgy (when edgy was released).. then going onto beryl01:01
momalpossible it stayed broken since then ?01:02
intelikeymomal see Hobbsee.   i gota go.01:02
Hobbseemomal: yes, it does.01:02
nuxili need to make a rar file thats password protected.. how can i do  it01:03
max_hi, i have a 2gb partition on my hd and linux sees it as a sotrage device, but when i go to mount it it says "an unknow error has occured" how can i fix this?01:03
momalahh.. thats probly why then. Hmm I think the update just updated my kernel means im going to need to run nvidia installer again. So whats next how I fix the problem ?01:03
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cox377!insert01:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about insert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:08
ceskoHas someone Omnibook 4150 ?01:08
max_hi, i have a 2gb partition on my hd and linux sees it as a sotrage device, but when i go to mount it it says "an unknow error has occured" how can i fix this?01:08
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vgehi, where does phpmysqladmin look for automatic logout time? I want to disable it or atleast make it allot longer, i hate to allways relog01:11
cox377!ntfsmount01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfsmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
momalyay thanks intelikey and Hobbsee seems that it isntalled now...01:12
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cox377i'm running this command01:13
cox377mount /mnt/hda101:14
cox377but it says it cant find ntfsmount01:14
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mindspin!ntfs01:17
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:17
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max_how can you restore a file you edited to its state before you modified it01:26
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r4wbeRRyhi01:28
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malik__max_: check in the same directory where the modifief file is n there u shud see the old file with ~ and partially same name........u can delete the current one n rename the backed up on to the original name n have it back01:36
malik__ooooooh well he is gone01:37
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malik__what is thios?........a net spliut?01:37
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cyberkillerhello01:47
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cyberkillerdoes anyone knows how to install firefox on kubuntu6.10?01:48
llutzsudo aptitude install firefox01:49
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malik__can any one tell me how to copy a folder to /usr/share/amsn folder.........its not letting me do it by drag and drop........do i need to use commandline and if so then can any one tell me the command to use?02:13
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Jucatomalik__: what are you trying to copy to /usr/share/amsn? that folder is owned by root so you need superuser privilege to do that.02:15
Frokiach ehrlich02:15
Frokihaett ich jetz nich gedacht02:16
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Jucato!de02:16
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:16
malik__Jucato: i am trying to put couple of plugins into that amsn foilder so that they are available system wide02:17
Jucatomalik__: ah. you will need to run Konqueror as root with "kdesu konqueror"02:17
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malik__so i type that in konsole first to initiate konqi with root thingy?02:18
Jucatomalik__: or press Alt+F2 and type the command there. be very careful when using Konqueror as root, and remember to close it once you're done02:19
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cloakableAnyone know a way to hide the xine video window when playing music?02:23
malik__okie one more thingy..............is there anything called dictionary plugin for konqi coz the one in it already is now asking for money02:25
Jucatowhat do you mean asking for money?02:26
Jucatonone of the stuff that's available from Kubuntu or KDE asks for payment02:27
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ubuntu!nvidia02:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:29
malik__well when i try to find the meaning of a work by selecting meriam webnster ditionary in the search box it takes me to result page of dictionary asking for money02:29
malik__29.9502:29
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Lynouremalik__: use dict02:29
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lotusleafmalik__: alt+f2 and type kdict02:29
malik__lotusleaf: it says cant run command02:31
Jucatomalik__: that is not a dictionary program. it's merely a search bar, like Google in Firefox02:31
lotusleafmalik__: then you should install it :)02:31
Jucatolotusleaf: kdict isn't installed by default02:31
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malik__from adept?02:31
lotusleafmalik__: sure, or use synaptic like I do02:31
Jucatomalik__: that search bar in Konqueror doesn't launch any program. it just searches the web. although I'm not sure why the meriam-webster search bar would ask for payment02:32
daedra!gnomad02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnomad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
daedra!zen02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
daedra!ipod02:32
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto02:32
lotusleaf!hwdb02:33
ubotuThe Ubuntu Hardware Database can be found at http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/02:33
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malik__oki is there any way i can add some dictionary search engine to the konqi search bar ?02:33
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malik__i want to add amazon.com and dictionary.com to the search box in konqi02:35
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daedrahttp://www.linux.ie/articles/tutorials/zen.php :)02:36
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RoKFiTi just tried to install feisty, and rebooted, and it loaded edgy!  is there a way to format the drive before i install?02:41
malik__is fiesty any good or i should stick with edgy for the time being?02:41
RoKFiTi can't tell you yet02:41
RoKFiTlol02:41
Jucatomalik__: stick with Edgy02:42
Jucatofeisty is still alpha02:42
RoKFiTJucato: how do i wipe the drive before I install feisty02:42
JucatoRoKFiT: just reformat it using the partitioner in the installer02:42
RoKFiTwhich is what?02:43
RoKFiToh02:43
RoKFiTbrb02:43
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malik__oki......so what is the significanse of having separate / and /home partition?02:43
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malik__some ppl say that this way ur personal settings remain in tact when u upgrade or install new version of linux02:44
malik__how does this work?02:45
Jucatomalik__: your data and personal settings are safe and preserved whenever you need to reinstall or upgrade02:45
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malik__u mean if i had separate /home partition and root partition........ if any thing goes wrong and i reinstall or say i had dapper n then i got edgy n installed it not only my settings n themes n stuff would remain the same but also i ll get all the new features of edgy?02:47
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ubuntui'm on live cd, how do i format the drive?02:47
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ubuntuhow do i format with the live cd02:48
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ubuntunobody knows?02:50
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malik__i think u can do it thru system settings02:51
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Frokigparted02:58
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fannagogannahi, running kubuntu, for some reason all my fonts look incredibly bitmapped02:59
fannagogannaanyone know how to fix this?02:59
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ubuntui'm trying to install fiesty, but every time i reboot, my system is booting into edgy03:00
malik__bimapped?03:00
fannagogannabitmapped03:00
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Frokiich weis es03:00
malik__bitmapped?......what does that mean?>03:00
Frokiaber da du leider kein deutsch sprichts kann ich es dir depp auch net erklaeren03:00
fannagogannameans it looks very grainy03:00
momal!lmad03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lmad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
malik__!de03:01
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:01
momal!info lmad03:01
ubotuPackage lmad does not exist in any distro I know03:01
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momalAnyone know where I might beable to get lmad from? | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmad03:01
darkgood afternoon03:01
Frokihurensohn03:01
darki need help about kubuntu03:01
Frokiich auch03:02
Frokida kann bestimmt deine mutti helfen03:02
Jucato!de03:02
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:02
malik__momal: is sound related then probably u r looking for gstreamer mad codecs03:02
Frokitaj03:02
Frokidumme sache03:02
Frokii have a monster cock03:03
malik__whatttttttttttttttttt03:03
Frokiwho want to see him??03:03
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darki have installed kubuntu but i dont know the "su" password03:03
Frokisudo su03:03
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Frokiuserpw03:03
malik__dark: thats ur normal user password03:03
Jucato!sudo | dark03:03
ubotudark: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:03
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Jucatodark: you just use your user's password03:03
darkok tnx03:04
Frokiand what is with my monster cock03:04
Frokino one want to see him??03:04
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JucatoFroki: stop it03:04
malik__Jucato: some one sent me ms office .pps slide show how do i play in k office?03:04
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Frokican't stop it nanana nana can't stop it03:05
momal!language03:05
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:05
Jucatomalik__: use KPresenter (KOffice) or OpenOffice.org Impress03:05
malik__Jucato: it opens up but i wanna play it like a slide show03:05
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BluesKajHowdy All! :)03:06
morgWorkthere wouldn't happen to be a kubuntu security feed out there anywhere, would there03:06
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Frokifuck you all03:06
Jucato!ops03:06
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist03:06
Frokino fuck me all03:06
Frokipleas03:06
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Flitzekackesuck my dick03:06
Frokibam ba-bam03:06
morgWorkand if anyone mentions a mailing list, I will bonk them with a Froki03:06
Frokiand my too03:07
Flitzekackelutscht meinen schwanz03:07
Frokidu hurensohn03:07
Flitzekackehart03:07
Frokideine mutter stinkt nach fisch03:07
Frokija ne03:07
momalAnyone here use kdenlive?03:07
Flitzekackeeure eltern sind brder03:07
Flitzekackeyes i03:07
Frokiyes03:07
Flitzekackeits crap03:07
morgWorkthese guys must be the debian devs who didn't get hired :)03:07
Frokikdelive is fucking shit03:07
Flitzekackethrow ur pc out of the window03:07
Frokiofcurse03:07
BluesKaj!ops03:07
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist03:07
Frokiyes03:07
Frokido it03:07
Flitzekackeand jump after it03:08
Frokithats a goooood idee03:08
Frokiidea03:08
Flitzekackeidea03:08
Frokischeis deutsch englisch kram03:08
morgWorkchris, quit being a dick03:08
Flitzekackeand then ask ur mother for a blowjob03:08
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Frokihab ich doch schon03:08
BluesKaj!de03:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:08
Flitzekacketoll03:08
Flitzekackeich bin so aufgeregt03:08
Frokiwas?03:09
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Flitzekackeso i squirt into ur faces03:09
Frokii stack my monter cock in my pcmcia slot03:09
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Frokino its broken03:09
Frokinow its broken03:09
ubuntujucato03:09
hdibaniok i leave this room03:09
ubuntuyou there?03:09
Frokiok03:09
Flitzekackerate my poo guys03:09
hdibanisome guys are very childish here03:09
Jucatomalik__: press F12 or go to the Slideshow menu03:09
Jucatoubuntu: yes?03:09
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Frokideine mudda03:09
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Flitzekackelutsch riesenschwnze03:09
Frokiwir vertreiben sie alles03:09
Frokishit03:10
Flitzekackeoo nice work morgWork03:10
Frokiwir wurden ignored03:10
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ubuntuuh yes, i'm upgrading from edgy to feisty and on reboot it goes to edgy03:10
Flitzekackelet it03:10
Frokiidiot03:10
Flitzekackeits not good03:10
morgWork[09:10:03]  <Flitzekacke> oo nice work morgWork03:10
morgWork[09:10:04]  [Ignore]  Added Flitzekacke!* to your ignore list.03:10
Flitzekackeit will destroy ur pc03:10
ubuntui'm on live cd03:10
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morgWorkthat was perfect timing03:10
Frokii will help hi,03:10
Frokihim03:10
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FrokimorgWork is a fuckin son of a biatsch03:11
ubuntujucato?03:11
morgWorkalright, where was I? anyone know if there's a kubuntu security rss feed out there anywhere? initial google searches  have turned up nothing03:11
Flitzekackeand i suck the cook of ur mother03:11
BluesKajfroki !language03:11
The_Machine"Mail Notification Properties" is automatically popping up on KDE startup.  How do i make it so that this doesn't happen anymore?03:11
momalFroki Flitzekacke: Kunt u enkel weggaan?03:11
Frokiach shit was soll das03:11
morgWorkBluesKaj: he knows exactly what he's doing03:11
BluesKaj!language03:11
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:11
Flitzekackeyes froki plz be not so childy. be an adult and run nacked trough ur garden03:11
Frokieure mtter lutschen schwnze in der hlle03:12
Frokiok03:12
Jucatoubuntu: have you completely upgraded to feisty? changed our sources.list and done dist-upgrade?03:12
Frokii will do that03:12
Flitzekackeund lutsch dann meinen schwanz03:12
Frokino03:12
Flitzekackedoch03:12
Frokii suck your mothers dick03:12
ubuntui don't want to upgrade, i want to reinstall to feisty03:12
JucatoFroki, Flitzekacke: please take your conversation elsewhere03:12
ubuntufresh install03:12
Flitzekackesonst muss ich die hurenshne aus dem channel hier dazu auffordern03:12
Flitzekackehals maul Jucato03:12
Frokishut up jucato03:12
BluesKajyeah some ppl have a hard time saying what they mean , cuz their command of the laguage is restricted curse and swear words03:12
Jucatoubuntu: then just use the installer in the live cd.03:12
Flitzekackedeine mutti BluesKaj03:13
ubuntui am but on reboot it boots to edgy03:13
Flitzekackelet it03:13
Flitzekackeit will destroy xour pc03:13
Frokido it03:13
Flitzekacke*your03:13
Flitzekackeihr habt alle tropfige fotzen03:13
Frokienglische tastatur is shit was03:13
Flitzekackene hab ich net mehr03:13
Frokiaso ja klar03:14
fannagogannahi, i want to ignore some deb packages. Do I do this through dpkg or apt?03:14
fannagogannaand if either, how do i do it?03:14
Frokiidoito03:14
Flitzekackelet it03:14
Frokiapt03:14
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Flitzekackejump onto your pc03:14
DeadS0uli bought new speakers and I need to baptize'em03:14
Flitzekackeits better03:14
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Frokiapt-get remove gnome03:14
DeadS0uldoes anyone have garden of evil by iron butterfly?03:14
fannagogannathen how do i do it through apt?03:14
Flitzekackeapt-get remove gnome03:14
fannagogannato ignore certain packages -- don't download them?03:14
Frokiapt-get remove gnome03:14
Frokiits the easyest wa03:15
furryballssudo apt-get remove kde03:15
Flitzekackeway03:15
BluesKajDeadS0ul, what kind of spkrs ?03:15
momalfannagoganna: just ignore them..03:15
momalugh03:15
momal!ops03:15
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist03:15
DeadS0ulthe jbl spot =D03:15
Frokimomal is a hurensohn03:15
DeadS0ulbig punch ina  small box03:15
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FlitzekackeDeadS0ul: ich hab deine mutti gepoppt03:15
Frokidas is langweilig03:15
Kamping_Kaisermomal, what are you !ops ing for?03:15
DeadS0ulI don't speak german lol03:16
BluesKajcool, JBLs rock...used have a pr in my DJ business03:16
FlitzekackeDeadS0ul: dann lern es03:16
Flitzekackemutterficker03:16
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Flitzekackedu bist dumm und hast ka03:16
mindspinhe#s swearing talking dirty in german03:16
Frokiuns lieber in nen chat fr kleine mdchen gehen und die anbagern03:16
DeadS0ulhahaha03:16
DeadS0ulI think i got the mutterficker bit03:16
Flitzekackeklein03:16
momalKamping_kaiser: there are random spammers here thats why03:16
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Flitzekacke9 jhrige?03:16
Flitzekackebin ich dabei03:16
lotusleaf!ops03:16
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist03:16
Frokii don't speak any word german03:16
Frokiheil hitler kamerad03:16
dennyI don't either03:16
dennyokay, that one worked03:16
Kamping_Kaisermomal, meaning Flitzekacke ?03:16
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mindspinnow they are talking about intimidating children03:17
momaland Froki03:17
paulw_vmgrade school must be close in the mutterlund03:17
Flitzekacke5min vor der zeit is des dt soldatens pnktlichkeit03:17
Kamping_Kaiserdenny, can Flitzekacke go too please?03:17
dennyI suggest people stick to English for a while03:17
lotusleafdenny: thx03:17
dennyanyone I don't understand is going to be leaving.03:17
Flitzekackeim not bad03:17
Flitzekackei love u all03:17
mindspindu bist ein dummschwtzer03:17
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Flitzekackei want to suck ur big cocks03:17
Flitzekackeif u have some03:17
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dennyanyone else?03:18
momalyay :).. finally admin ^^03:18
Kamping_Kaiserthose look like it.03:18
llutznot all germans are like these... :)03:18
Jucatothank you denny :)03:18
dennyokay, I'll hang around - highlight me if you get more problems03:18
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paulw_vmllutz, we know that... :)03:18
Jucatothank you :)03:18
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imbrandonhrm , i'm a tad late03:19
Kamping_Kaiser*grin* just a little03:19
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Jucatoimbrandon: just a bit :)03:19
Kamping_Kaiseranyway, place is fairly opped now03:19
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momalHas anyone here used kdenlive ?... It seems I get this mlt error when starting it up and everything compiled fine :S.. and the website doesn't have any help with it :(03:19
Kamping_Kaiserenjoy your time all :)03:19
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BluesKajpunks ... disruption is fun for them03:20
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The_Machine"Mail Notification Properties" is automatically popping up on KDE startup.  How do i make it so that this doesn't happen anymore?03:20
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The_Machineme me!03:21
The_Machineheh03:21
Jucatoheh03:21
The_MachineKDE startup is a weird beast.03:21
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Jucatodo you close that Mail Notification Properties window before you logout?03:21
The_MachineI looked in ~/.kde/Autostart03:21
The_MachineJucato: yes03:21
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Jucatohm....03:22
BluesKajyeah, good idea if ppl would ask again, after all the distraction03:22
The_Machineyeah, i don't understand03:22
The_Machinenow, i was originally running ubuntu, and then installed the 'kubuntu' package03:23
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The_Machineso it could be left over from when i was using gnome03:23
The_Machinebut it didn't do this until a few days ago.03:23
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malik__i can recieve files from some contacts but i cant send pics or any files to any one........i am behind an adsl router with firewall and NAT enabled on it03:23
malik__how do i make my amsn to send out files?03:24
BluesKajmalik__,, get rid of the Firewall03:24
The_MachineBlues is right - your NAT acts as a firewall03:24
malik__heheheh then i wud ber inviting viruses and spy wares .........altho it wud be alot less amount than windows03:24
The_Machineas long as your computer isn't in your DMZ03:24
The_Machinemalik__: spyware?  viruses?03:25
The_Machinewhat OS are you using?03:25
BluesKajyer behind a router , 99% of them have hardware FWs03:25
malik__i am using edgy03:26
malik__kubuntu edy with kde 3.5.503:26
BluesKajwhat email prog , malik__?03:26
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malik__amsn03:26
malik__i can recieve pics from other ppl but i cant send out03:26
BluesKajyou need to setup port mapping/forwarding on amsn (I think)03:27
malik__which is strange considering it should have been the other way around03:27
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Jucatoit's possible to block outgoing, but accept incoming, using firewalls/ports, I think03:28
malik__so any solutions or if u guyz can point me in the right direction03:29
BluesKajI have amsn...lemme check the setup options/requirements03:30
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momalmalik__: If you don't find some sort of solution you could try kopete and try sending files with it :)03:30
BluesKajor dcc on IRC03:31
momalYAYA... finally got kdenlive to compile... now hopefully it works how i want ^^03:32
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jfrenchHey ppl, im a long time ubuntu user, and i decided to use kubuntu insted, can anyone please tell me if i can just install beryl the same way as in ubuntu03:36
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jfrenchand also, tell me how to turn off those balloon notifications on the tool bar, this is the first time im really using kde03:37
malik__!beryl03:37
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl03:37
BluesKajmalik__, go into amsn prefernces/connections , you'll see satrting point transfers , the default port is TCP 6891 .. you'll have to open that port on your router03:37
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SharkPhi03:38
malik__BluesKaj: Hmmm.........i dont know how to open that port03:38
SharkPIs there anyone who want to help me?03:39
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jfrenchDepends what is your problem :P03:39
SharkPlisten03:39
SharkPI've installed aMule03:39
jfrench:O03:39
SharkPbut,when I open the program03:40
jfrenchgo on.....03:40
SharkPthe window is all black03:40
SharkPand the same situation is for Freeciv03:40
BluesKajmalik__, do you have your router access? it'll be an addressbar like "mynetwork" in your browser03:40
SharkPwhy?03:40
beastRiddell: ping03:40
jfrenchSharkP: Has this always happend, or did it suddenly happen one day03:40
malik__i go into router from 192.168.1.1 n then typing my passwd03:41
SharkPNo,this happen everyday03:41
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jfrenchSharkP: What graphics card do you have? And you have the rite drivers installed yes?03:42
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jfrenchright*03:42
SharkPI have the ATI Radeon Card03:42
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linuxpeacehello everybody03:42
SharkPAt the moment I don't remember the model...03:42
jfrenchDoesnt really matter what model :P03:42
BluesKajok malik__ go to port mapping03:43
SharkPI think I've installed the driver03:43
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SharkPHow can I control?03:43
SharkPAdept?03:43
linuxpeacecan ou read me?03:43
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linuxpeaceor am i silenced?03:44
jfrenchWe can read you03:44
BluesKajyes linuxpeace03:44
linuxpeaceok thanks03:44
linuxpeaceguys i am happy03:44
linuxpeacei am a free man , my first day in 10 years without fucking microsoft03:44
linuxpeacefrom today on i only work with linux stuff, nothing else03:44
linuxpeacei feel good.03:45
SharkPlinuxpeace:I know the feel...03:45
jfrenchCongrats03:45
jfrenchI made that step years ago03:45
SharkPI've been using Kubuntu for a month03:45
SharkPand I fell03:45
linuxpeacewas not so difficult as i expected03:45
SharkPFREE03:45
SharkPjfrench:let's come back to my problem03:46
linuxpeacefeeling is that my system is stable, and i can concentrate in my work and not in replacing some stupid icons or downloading a stupid windows tuning software, blabla, hehe03:46
BluesKajbeen on kubuntu for 5 mos, but I'm still gutless, Haven't  gotten rid of my windows partition :)03:46
jfrenchSharkP: sure03:46
linuxpeaceall that useless shit we had to eat from microsoft during decades. game over now bill hitler gates03:46
SharkPwhat's driver's name for my card?03:46
jfrenchI keep my windoze part on so i can play Dod and Company of heroes :P03:47
momalBluesKaj: I have been using linux for 5 years and I have windows still... only for gaming... If i can't get it to work under cedega :p..03:47
jfrenchIm unsure for ATIs.. Ill look for you03:47
SharkPthanx03:47
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jfrenchSharkP: Im a full nVidia fan03:47
SharkPme too, but I had to buy a pc ehit ATI card... :(03:48
SharkP*whit03:48
SharkPdamned keybord...03:49
Admiral_Chicagogood morning all03:49
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jfrenchLol what timezone?03:49
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SharkPjfrench:stupid question:are u french,jfrench?03:49
danny500is anyone here good with Horde email?03:50
danny500#horde03:50
jfrenchWhat do you mean?03:50
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danny500Hi Jucato03:50
SharkPare you come from France?03:50
SharkP*do03:50
Jucatohi danny50003:50
SharkPyou came from France?03:50
abattoirhi Jucato03:50
linuxpeacei think during my 10 years with windows i spent 95% of all that time, keeping that windows machine running and rebooting and 5% for productive work03:51
Jucatoabattoir!!!!03:51
jfrenchIm Australian, but i originaly came from Swit03:51
BluesKajyeah , there are some video codecs that nero handles better than devede and wifey wants me to keep windows "for emergencies" ...she seems to think kubuntu is so different that wouldn't be able to use it... and she doe shave her own windows box  :)03:51
jfrenchFrench is my last name :P03:51
SharkPAh,Ok!03:51
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SharkPI come from Italy03:51
danny500yo Jucato, you any good with Horde email03:51
SharkPmy English teacher could kill me...03:51
Jucatodanny500: nope... sorry03:51
jfrenchwhys that?03:51
danny500damn03:51
BluesKajCanada here03:51
linuxpeaceand with all that money that i have spent for hitler gates gargabe products i could have bought 2 houses03:52
danny500I'm Canada to03:52
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linuxpeacesilly me, haha03:52
danny500Represent03:52
jfrenchAUSTRALIA FTW!03:52
BluesKajwhere danny500?03:52
BluesKajI'm near Sudbury Ont03:52
danny500Welland Ontario, you03:52
danny500nm03:52
SharkPItaly is the football world champion!03:52
danny500lol03:52
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Admiral_Chicago!offtopic03:52
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:52
Admiral_Chicago:P03:52
SharkPok,ok...03:53
danny500Hey, Blue, you don't live that far away from me03:53
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jfrenchSharkP: im not to clear on this ATI driver stuff, im pretty sure its just called ati, Best cheack with another person who knows ATI back to front, i know nothing, ask me when you buy a nVidea :P03:53
BluesKajhehe , cmon ubotu , were getting acquainted ...it's good for ppl03:53
jfrenchnvidia*03:53
Admiral_Chicago!ati03:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:53
Admiral_Chicagothat might also help03:53
jfrench!ham03:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ham - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:53
linuxpeacei am reading extreeeeeeeeeeemly good reviews from PCLinuxOS, guys. anyone tried it yet?03:53
BluesKajSharkP, which AYI card?03:53
SharkPok,so, See you soon! ;)03:53
BluesKajATI03:53
Admiral_Chicagoor lspci in the command line03:54
danny500Yeah, not like were waisting anyones time, no one needs help right now03:54
SharkPBluesKaj:radeon03:54
SharkPbut I don't remember the model03:54
BluesKajSharkP, hang on i have site for you03:54
danny500Hey, BlueKaj > danieldewitt75@gmail.com03:54
SharkPthanks03:54
danny500lol03:54
danny500hey, SharkP what radeon card you have?03:55
SharkPoh,I don't Know!03:55
SharkPor better03:55
Admiral_Chicagolinuxpeace: nope haven't used it03:55
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SharkPI don't remember03:55
SharkPIs it important?03:55
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BluesKajSharkP, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a03:55
SharkPthanx03:56
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SharkPBye to everybody03:56
SharkPForza Azzurri!03:56
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BluesKajJucato, what the device list command ?03:56
Jucato!uuid03:57
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)03:57
TheGateKeeperlinuxpeace, the advantage over (k)ubuntu is that all your multimedia, flash etc works out of the box, the downside is there are not as many packages as (k)ubuntu03:57
BluesKajthx Jucato03:57
linuxpeacegatekeeper. i got it03:58
BluesKajno, I mean existing hardware03:58
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JucatoBluesKaj: um.. kinfocenter? not really sure03:59
BluesKajsorry my request was worded incorrectly03:59
linuxpeaceISA pnp net work cards are not supported?03:59
linuxpeacene2000..i probably need a driver, i guess03:59
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linuxpeacerealtek pci was no problem for kubuntu..auto detected..04:00
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linuxpeaceISA rest in peace ..or can i use it somehow?04:00
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linux_hey guys I am busy with a script, just with the console. how can I make a script so that I only see my ip ?04:05
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MukiEXlinux_ yoru IP?04:06
MukiEXlocal or 'net?04:06
ScislaCis there a way to request software be added to the repos for Feisty?04:07
linux_yes, local04:07
ScislaC(specifically I want to request ktoon)04:07
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MukiEXktoon? o_004:07
MukiEXOooh.04:07
MukiEXSorry, mixed up questions.04:07
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linux_:P04:08
MukiEXlinux_ : http://bash.cyberciti.biz/script/read-ip-address.bash.php04:08
Admiral_ChicagoScislaC: check out MOTU/FAQ iirc04:08
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syntaxxwhat is the pacific standard time now? ^^04:08
Admiral_Chicago@now Seattle04:08
Admiral_Chicago@now LA04:09
kubuntu7:08 PST04:09
syntaxxthanks04:09
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sparrwhere can i find the kubuntu logo as a svg?  i need to print a high res version04:11
scythe128question:  How do I download all the updates to one computer, apply them, and then take the files I downloaded to another computer and apply them.  The other computer does not have any net connectivity04:11
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sparrwhere can i find a higher res version of this?  http://kubuntu.org/art/kubuntu-edgy.png04:15
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sparraha, .svg in the same place04:17
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Kabalis it possible to make the panel-hiding button transparent?04:20
aseigono04:21
Kabalaah that's a shame..04:22
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Kabalweird anyway.. everthing can be set to transparent except the hiding buttons..04:23
Kabalbut thanx for the quick reply :)04:23
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luisfsm_ma04:29
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achemkant reme the name of the package that sets kubuntu up for compiling /make etc.04:40
achemn e 1?04:41
achemgot it: build-essential04:43
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po8FreakHi all, stopping in to test HydraIRC for windoze on a USB stick :) Oh, since I'm here I hate Gnome. Bye!04:47
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danny500hey, how would I find the info of a server from a website?04:50
mindspinwhat info are you looking for?04:51
danny500domain, IP address and port info04:51
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mindspinwhois domainname04:51
danny500www.circlemanagement.com04:51
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mindspinwhen you do ping circlemanagement.com you#ll get the ip04:52
danny500ok hold on04:52
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NamShubk3b never instaled properly, and now it cant uninstall04:53
mindspinnslookup circlemanagement.com gives also some info04:53
NamShubhow can i remove it? dpkg -r --force-all wont work either04:53
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malik__hi there can any one play this link n tell me if the media is playing in their browser?04:55
malik__http://www.smh.com.au/multimedia/warlord/start.html04:55
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moniquehi all, how can I switch back to the standard kdm login prompte (not the kubuntu one) ?04:56
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NamShubok found it04:59
kilraeshould i bounce spam or just discard it?04:59
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RikkiHi all anyone able to assist me with a Install (totally new to Linux) I'm wanting to keep my M$ install till i get to grips with things, any assistance would be greatly apreciated05:03
NamShubRikki: any specific questions?05:04
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DaSkreechRikki: How mush free space do you have on your hard drive(s)?05:04
Admiral_Chicago!partition05:04
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter05:04
Admiral_Chicagohmm, that isn't a good guide at all05:04
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RikkiNamShub, not sure how to get it to identify the partitions i have to date so that it dosnt wipe my old MS data05:04
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DaSkreechRikki: how to identify them in Linux? or partions in general?05:05
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RikkiDaSkreech identify in linux if possible.. on my Sys, its showing that i have 2 HSS both 200gb, which is correct... but not showing the partitions.. i have all my music and important data spread across the partitions that exist on both HDD05:06
RikkiHSS= HDD*05:06
DaSkreechRikki: open System Settings and look at Disks and file systems05:07
RikkiDaSkreech thanks will take a look at it now05:07
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RikkiDaSkreech, many thanks thats showingthe partitions.. now to figue how to get the install file to install on the partition i want (is that at all possible?)05:08
DaSkreechRikki: A little knowledge may help here05:09
lakhiaCan someone help me with an annoying kde behavior please?05:10
DaSkreechUnder UNix all real life things (monitors, keyboards, mice, soundcards, hard drives) are kept in the /dev folder05:10
DaSkreechlakhia: You WANT an annoying KDE behaviour?05:10
lakhiaDaSkreech: well, a cure from it, rather!05:10
DaSkreechRikki: Hard drives on an IDE chain are all called /dev/hd<something>05:11
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RikkiDaSkreech as is the case with all things... :) I think i'll read up as much as i can before going further as the data i have on the M$ installs are not backed up as yet05:11
lakhiaDaSkreech: the hover effect on the start menu drives me nuts and I can't find the system setting to turn it off05:11
aseigolakhia: in the panels config, appearance, "show mouse over effects"05:12
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lakhiaaseigo: Thanks, Aaron, let me look for it.05:12
lakhiaaseigo: which is?05:13
aseigonamely figuring that their personal opinion defines the judgement for any given feature ;-P05:13
lakhiaaseigo: well, I think the feature is meant well. But I think the delay is not long enuff. It shows even when all I want to do is click on it05:14
aseigolakhia: yeah, that's been increased in 3.5.something05:14
DaSkreechaseigo: It depends on how much it tiches05:14
aseigoDaSkreech: "can someone help me with a kde behaviour that is annoying me" <-- ah, so much nicer.05:14
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DaSkreechaseigo: Yeah I agree unless yo've found over whelming opinion that the behavious should not be that way05:15
DaSkreech Like Ctrl+N closing the application without saving05:15
lakhiaaseigo: my apologies ... generally the two sentences are equivalent for most people! :-)05:16
aseigoDaSkreech: damn. and i was about to commit that exact feature. maybe i shouldn't. hmm05:16
aseigolakhia: not when you're the person writing the software and hearing it from both sides of the debate for any given feature on a daily basis =)05:17
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aseigoevidently god is very confused as he rarely gets above 60-70% consistency ;)05:17
lakhiaaseigo: :D05:18
lakhiaaseigo: ok, under "look and feel" then "Appearance" ... now i have several taps05:19
lakhiaaseigo: er, tabs05:19
lakhiaaseigo: sorry, choices on left side05:19
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lakhiaaseigo: Style? Window Decorations? Which one has "show mouse over effects"?05:20
aseigolakhia: no. *panel configuration*05:21
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lakhiaaseigo: ahhh, no wonder I couldn't find it ... thanks, that's so much better! :)05:22
NamShubKControl > Desktop > Panels > Appearance > General05:22
NamShubsee, that was easy :P05:22
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Simian__it's my birthday today05:32
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DaSkreechWohoo?05:33
icheyne!birthday05:34
ubotubirthday: Display information about pending events on login. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-9.1 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB05:34
icheyne;)05:34
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Simian__icheyne: thanls05:34
Simian__thanks05:34
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astronautehttp://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=652419#p652419 (is it possible to install kubuntu on core 2 duo please ?)05:36
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KinhoshiEverytime I reboot, KDE doesn't start up, rather it starts in terminal mode... and I have to reinstall my nvidia drivers to get KDE to start up. And when I install my drivers, it complains something about my X.org module, and tells me to download a X.org SDK/development package.05:38
KinhoshiWhere can I get the package?05:38
Admiral_Chicagoastronaute: yes it is05:38
Admiral_Chicagocheck out the 64 bit build, give me a second to find a link05:39
astronauteAdmiral_Chicago what im doing wrong pleqase ?05:39
astronauteAdmiral_Chicago i tried amd64 too05:39
Admiral_Chicagoastronaute: may I PM you?05:39
astronautesure05:39
_kuja_Kinhoshi, do you have the development package it asks about installed?05:40
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KinhoshiI don't think so...05:40
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KinhoshiI'm not entirely sure.05:41
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Dark_Wizdom!chroot05:41
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box05:41
_kuja_Kinhoshi, any particular reason you're in stalling the nvidia driver with the .bin file from nvidia's website, as opposed to the ubuntu nvidia-glx package?05:42
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KinhoshiI didn't know I could get the drivers from Ubuntu...05:43
KinhoshiI'm pretty new to Linux/Ubuntu. :P05:43
_kuja_sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig05:44
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KinhoshiThanks.05:44
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bibriudehola05:49
_kuja_hello05:49
bibriudehi there05:49
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bibriudejoin #london05:50
_kuja_?05:50
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ishtushow do i run .deb files??05:58
llutzishtus: they are to be installed (dpkg), not to be run05:58
ishtusi downloaded ati drivers, and i followed some tutorial saying make alien fglsomething.rpm05:59
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ishtusllutz: how do i used dpkg?06:01
icheynedpkg -i packagename.deb06:02
Simian__why can't i stream radio with amarok06:02
Simian__i have looked at the wiki06:02
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gehnnahola a todos, buenas tardes06:05
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gehnnatengo problemas al parar el entorno grafico para instalar el driver de nvidia. le hago un sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop y se me queda el cursor parpadeando y nada06:06
gehnnaalguien me pude ayudar06:06
_kuja_ati | ishtus06:06
icheyne!es06:06
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:06
gehnnagracias06:06
_kuja_!ati | ishtus06:06
ubotuishtus: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:06
pielgrzym!pastebin06:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:07
ishtusthanks ill look around on that06:07
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syntaxxhow can i play my dvd? totem doesnt want mt to play dvd06:08
_kuja_to play back most dvds, you need to install lilbdvdcss206:08
syntaxxok thanks06:08
_kuja_**libdvdcss206:08
syntaxx_kuja_: it says package has been obsoleted or is only available from another source06:09
_kuja_Yeah ... it's of "questionable legality" so it's not in the repos. Let me dig up the link of where to find it at.06:10
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syntaxxok06:10
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_kuja_http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/06:10
Dark_Wizdomtest | Dark06:11
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Dark_Wizdom-_-06:11
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icheyne!dvd | syntaxx06:12
ubotusyntaxx: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:12
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ishtuspff, i had an error while installing the .deb package.. >06:16
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ishtustrying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man8/atieventsd.8.gz', which is also in package xorg-driver-fglrx06:16
ishtuswhat does this mean??06:16
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ishtusthat i already have the drivers on my pc??06:17
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soonI need to confirm the make and model of my wifi (T60 laptop) .. its not in KinfoCenter ... any suggestions?06:21
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yelonek!pl06:22
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:22
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aseigosoon: lspci from a command line (konsole)06:22
soonthx06:22
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aseigosoon: e.g. on my laptop `lspci | grep -i wireless` does it06:23
soonI think this must be it : Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)06:24
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scythe128hallo06:24
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soonhi06:25
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scythe128why is it that it takes vlc 10 minutes to dl for windows but it takes like 3 minutes to apt-get it?06:26
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NamShubi guess theres a lot og static libraries in the windows version06:27
scythe128ya think??06:27
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mozillabuenas06:28
scythe128is there a windows version of libdvdcss or will it work with my current dvdcss libs from my other dvd players? I know, its not a windows or vlc support forum, but you guys seem to have all the answers (just kissing up)06:28
mrnopcI'm trying to update my xorg distribution package how can I do that with apt-get?06:29
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mozillahi06:30
mozillahow can I do my logitech mx518 works well in kubuntu please? every button work well?06:30
mozillaplease?06:30
alleemozilla: what does not work?06:31
scythe128I have a gamepad, my jsconfiguration recongizes it and will calibrate, but none of the games recognize it, is this a common issue, or (more likely) did I screw something up06:31
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mozillaallee, the aditional buttons06:32
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mozillathe 2 buttons of the left side and the buttons to configure the resolution06:32
mozillawell, the 2 buttons for the resolution work, i can change the resolution, but in windows i can configure them to make other functions06:32
mozillaadditional, sorry06:33
mozillamy bad english :S06:33
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mozilladoes anybody help me please?06:34
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NamShub!lomoco06:35
ubotulomoco: Logitech Mouse Control for USB mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0beta1+1.0-4 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 124 kB06:35
NamShubnot sure if its it though :)06:36
alleemozilla: start xv from konsole and press the buttons.  There you maybe see something like Button7 and Button8.   (If you seee NoSymbol it's a bit more problematic)06:36
circhow do i make konqueror auto refresh folders when i delete stuff?06:36
mozillaubotu, if i install that driver, i will be able to do every button work and with the function i wnat?06:36
mozillawant*?06:36
mozillaallee, i know the number of my buttons, i was using xev06:36
mozillabut with xev, the 2 buttons for the resolution are not recognized06:37
alleemozilla: mhmm, you see nothing when you press the buttons in xev?06:37
mozillayeah06:38
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mozillabut only the 2 buttons of the resolution06:38
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alleemozilla: oh!06:38
mozillathe other buttons are seen well in xev06:38
mozillaso, i have 10 buttons but only 8 buttons are recognizexd06:38
mozillarecognized*06:38
mozillavery strange xS06:38
mozilla:S06:38
alleemozilla: (wild guess) maybe the standard mouse driver only support 8 buttons06:39
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mozillabut at least, i want to be able to configure the additional buttons, although i cant configure the 2 buttons of the resolution, but at least, the others...06:39
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mozillaallee, how can i change that driver?06:40
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alleemhm, I see button 8 and 9.  So at least 9 are supported ;)06:40
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alleemozilla: good question.  I never run into it.06:40
Dr_willisive noticed that the GENTOO wiki pages have a lot of excamples/deatils/xorg configs for the various mice.06:40
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Dr_willisThey may be a little techy at times.. but they got some decent docs at least. :) on some very specific topics such as that.06:41
alleeDr_willis: URL at hand?06:41
mozillaok allee thanks a million06:41
mozillafor your help06:42
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Dr_willisgoogle.com06:42
Dr_willis:)06:42
skreetI've got a 44 GB partition showing up as 44 MB is `df -h`. Theres a ton of missing data. Any ideas?06:42
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alleemozilla: I wasn't a big help.  Maybe Dr_willis hint is more useful.  Or the lomoco pkg NamShub was mentioning ...06:44
alleeDr_willis: boring ;)  but I do it06:44
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mozillaok, im gonna install lomoco now and test it06:45
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alleemozilla: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Advanced_Mouse06:46
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mozillathanks06:46
alleemozilla: let us know in case you find a solution06:46
mozillaok, dont worry, of course06:46
_alanHowdy - I've had problems with DNS servers resetting in my network settings. I've edited /etc/resolv.conf to put my nameservers in there, and did chattr +i to make it stick. Now during bootup I have to hit ctrl+c when it hangs setting up the network. Is there a more elegant solution (breezy)06:46
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mozillawe have to help each other to make kubuntu the best community xD06:46
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yelonek!cedega06:47
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega06:47
_alan(got the above solution from the forums)06:47
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Dr_willisHmm.. trying to track down a good link to that Linux/IBM comercial that came out bout 2 years ago.. the YouTube copies are all sort of lowres06:48
blackflag!inventory06:48
llutz_alan: install package resolvconf and define nameserver in /etc/network/interfaces06:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inventory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:48
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fdoving_alan: yes, use 'superseede domain-name-servers 1.2.3.4;' in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf06:48
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_alan(i apologise - new to irc - command to whisper?)06:49
fdovingwhisper?06:49
_alanis there a command to whisper a user? If not, it's cool :)06:50
fdovingwe usually just do it this way.06:50
_alanokeydokey... Before I try the above 2 solutions, should I back out my changes to resolv.conf?06:50
fdovingyou can always start private sessions with other users, but it's not done very often unless the topic is something not related to the channel.06:50
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_alankk06:50
Dr_willis!irc06:51
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines06:51
_alanthanks doc - more rtfm for me ;)06:51
fdoving_alan: yes, after editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf you would need to undo the chattr, to allow dhclient to update it. I presume you use a router or some kind of dhcp server?06:52
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_alanYes, I am using a router that supplies IP addresses via dhcp06:52
genii!conexant06:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about conexant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:53
fdoving_alan: ok. then go edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and undo the chattr operation.06:53
_alanresolv.conf kept getting reset to the ip address of the router06:53
fdoving_alan: ok. then my suggestion will work.06:53
geniiHas anyone gotten a HSF or HCF Conexant to work in Edgy yet?06:54
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soon_I just erased my /etc/apt/sources.list !!!!06:54
_alansuperseede -> supersede?06:54
fdoving_alan: correct. my bad.06:55
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_alanmultiple supersede lines for more than one dns server?06:55
genii!hsf'06:55
fdovingsoon_: get a new one then.06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hsf' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:55
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genii!hsf06:55
fdoving!easysource | soon_06:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hsf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:56
ubotusoon_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".06:56
TheGateKeepersoon_, dapper or edgy?06:56
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_alangoogle ftw06:56
fdoving_alan: no, like this: supersede domain-name-servers 1.2.3.4, 5.6.7.8;06:57
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simendoes anyone know how i get floating icons and other cool things for kubuntu ?06:57
soon_edgy06:57
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MitjaHow do I put taskbar back? I accidentally removed it.06:57
_alanyah googled it :p06:57
simenhate googling things !06:57
simenBah !06:57
simenHelp A.S.A.P :P06:57
TheGateKeepersoon_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories06:58
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soon_thanks06:58
_alanit's cool when you have a starting point to look from - I just had no idea where to begin looking06:58
swimhey folks, would anyone happen to know where I might get kubuntu's default kicker background?06:58
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_alanokeydokey, rebooting to see if we have won. will be back :p06:59
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fdovingswim: in the kubuntu-default-settings package. /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png06:59
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fdovingswim: if you're not on kubuntu you can get the source of the package from http://packages.ubuntu.com06:59
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swimthanks so much fdoving :)07:00
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swimfdoving: you would'nt also happen to know what package I'll need would you?07:02
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fdovingswim: kubuntu-default-settings07:02
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swimexcellent thanks again07:02
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geniiHas anyone tried compiling Conexant drivers in Edgy?07:08
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_alanhey guys. Tried adding supersede info to dhclient.conf, and backed out my changes on /etc/resolv.conf. No hang during bootup now, but resolv.conf is back to my router as nameserver, and dns is not being set to the entries I made07:09
yelonek!en07:10
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat07:10
_alansupersede domain-name-servers 213.94.190.194, 213.94.190.23607:10
Rob-Westi need a Kubuntu source.list file07:10
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_alangonna check my konversation log - there was a suggestion from another guy about installing a package07:11
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_alaninstall package resolvconf and define nameserver in /etc/network/interfaces - does this sound good for breezy?07:13
_alanwow. Its deep g(r)eek in /etc/network/interfaces (shudder)07:14
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_alanonly sources.list I have is from breezy - doubt it would do you much good07:16
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fdoving_alan: you really don't need resolvconf if you use the dhclient way.. you can however install it if you want to. it doesn't really change anything.07:18
_alanrob-west: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37941/plain/ is a copy of my sources.list file, it may help07:18
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fdoving_alan: so, it didn't work? hmm.. that's strange, very. try to change 'supersede' to 'prepend' then..07:19
_alankk07:19
geniiThere will be a prototype of sources.list normally in /usr/share/doc/examples/sources.list07:19
allee_alan: nameservers can be set via dhcp. not need to use dhcp in this case07:20
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geniiNormally the only differences are the localisations ( COUNTRYCODE.archive.ubuntu.com) etc and suite (dapper edgy) etc07:21
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_alanyah, problem is ubuntu persists in resetting nameserver info in resolv.conf to the router ip address rather than any dns settings in network control panel07:21
alleefdoving: how's the dhclient way to have a fixed domain search path where ever you connect?07:22
_alanI've got around that by editing resolv.conf with my dns servers, and chattr the file readonly, but that causes a hang during bootup that you have to ctrl-c out off07:22
_alanof*07:22
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fdovingallee: i would guess that is something like: supersede domain-name "allee.net";07:23
allee_alan: Usually dhcpd server provide nameservers and because the are pysically near the response is faster07:24
fdovingallee: that goes in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, there is an example on line 17 if your dhclient.conf is similar to mine.07:24
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_alanyep, my router does supply dns server info via dhcp. Unfortunately, ubuntu ignores this, and just uses the router itself for dns,which is very slow07:24
Dr_willisHmm..never notced it being slow that way.. ive seen this issue befor.. i think there may be discussion of it in the forums/wikis.07:25
_alananyway, trying the prepend fix07:25
fdoving_alan: in theory.. that's what 'supersede' should override.. the dhcp settings..07:25
Dr_willisI recall ages ago editing the 'template' file that was used to make the resolov.conf :) but that was a bit of a hack.07:25
Dr_willisthen i also altered rc.local to 'fix it' :)07:26
_alanyah there is a discussion in the forum, which led me to the solution of manually entering dns into resolv.conf and chattr it readonly, but this causes a hang on bootup needing a ctrl+c to bypass07:26
Dr_willisbut now i dont have the issue any more07:26
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fdoving_alan: prepend will only say 'try this first, then try whatever dhcp says'.. supersede is more like 'use this and shutup'.. iirc.07:26
_alanlol07:26
_alanprepend sounds like it might work07:26
Dr_willisdont edit resolb.conf - theres some OTHER file that it copues the resolov.conf header from - thats the one i edited.07:26
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Dr_willisor at least it used to.07:26
adz21cwould any have any idea why kaffeine has stopped working for me? It doesn't even seem to crash ... just doesn't start.07:26
geniiAnyone compile Conexant HSF or HCF drivers on Edgy yet?07:26
Dr_willisI forget why this problem even happens.07:26
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alleefdoving: ah, right. but domain name is used as DOMAIN in resolv.conf not SEARCH.  So I stick with resolvconf for now07:27
palvarezalguien sabe porq automatix no corre en kubuntu?07:27
fdovingDr_willis: that's only when resolvconf is installed.. in those cases /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/ should be edited.07:27
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CotRo|eRhttp://pastebin.ca/285212 - any help pls??07:27
LjL!es | palvarez07:27
ubotupalvarez: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:27
_alanum, because I'm unlucky, I have a guild run in wow in 30 minutes, and this needs to be fixed now before I go home? That sounds like it to me...07:27
alleefdoving: nevertheless thx, never looked at dhclient.conf yet. Interesting07:27
Dr_willisfdoving,  yea. i never did figure ti all out. :)  can always just copy the correct file over after booting.07:27
Dr_willisbbl07:28
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CotRo|eRhey ppl, I have a problem any 1 can help me pls? - http://pastebin.ca/28521207:28
ikoniaCotRo|eR: whats the problem07:28
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CotRo|eRikonia - scroll down there are some errors07:29
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ikoniayeah, just some file system and clock errors07:29
Rob-Westhow do i makesure i have all dependencies07:29
ikoniaRob-West: apt will do that for oou07:30
ikoniayou07:30
CotRo|eRikonia - is everything ok now? it kinda stopped there07:30
ikoniawell, your time may fix itself with ntp07:30
ikoniafile system I don't know if its ran checks07:30
ikoniabut if it has - it should be fine07:30
Rob-Westwell ive done apt-get update07:30
Rob-Westand apt-get upgrade07:30
ikoniathen everything should be fine Rob-West07:30
Rob-Westand automatix2 wont install it says its missing dependencies07:31
ikoniahow are you installing automatix2 ?07:31
Rob-Westapt-get install automatix207:31
Admiral_ChicagoRob-West: also, apt-get build-dep foo07:31
ikoniamaybe the dependencies arn't available07:32
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CotRo|eRit got stuck there :|07:33
Rob-Westim gonna try downloading the /deb file07:33
Rob-West.deb*07:33
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_alanprepend did not fix it either. rats07:35
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_alanthe only thing that is working so far is to manually edit resolv.conf with my dns settings, and making it readonly :(07:35
_alan!dns07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:36
genii!bind07:36
ubotubind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB07:36
_alanwhich leads to a hang during booting which you have to ctrl+c out of (07:36
_alan:(*07:36
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dominik_hello world, I have a problem with my speaker. When I log onto the computer, the speaker works, but when my daughter logs onto the same computer, he gets the speaker icon showing red cross over it07:37
stamenhi07:37
stamenhow to open 3gp file07:37
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stamenwith which program,07:37
stamen!3gp07:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:37
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dominik_is there a way I can solve this problem and let my daughter use the speaker because she would like to listen to music while surfing07:38
_alando a google search on 3gp file - first result is an explanation of the file and its format07:38
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alleedominik_: add your daughter to audio group (for list of other interesting group type: id   when you looked in007:39
NamShubdominik_: add your daughter to "audio" group07:39
geniistamen try opening it with mplayer07:39
dominik_how do I add her, am sorry..an abit very new :(07:39
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dominik_how do I add her to audio group, am sorry..am abit very new :(07:40
NamShubdominik_: KControl > System Administration > Users07:40
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Admiral_Chicagodominik_: then admin mode -- groups07:40
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stamengenii: ok07:40
stamengenii: wait07:40
dominik_ok, let me try it now as we speak...07:41
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stamendominik_: it works with mplayer07:41
stamengenii: it works, but without audio07:42
dominik_i don't even have mplayer installed07:43
geniistamen Perhaps try a program capable of mpeg4 playback suck as kaffeine07:43
stamenok07:43
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genii*SUCH* as kaffeine07:43
alleegenii: suck? giggle07:43
allee:)07:43
_alanI've got breezy working on this laptop quite nicely. It only has 128MB ram at the moment - should I hold off upgrading to dapper -> edgy until I have ram up to 512MB?07:43
geniiI caught i07:43
genii:)07:43
genii_alan Well at least 192 would be good07:44
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_alanyah kk. Hopefully edgy won't have the problem with dns servers. I'll just live with the kludge for the moment07:44
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dominik_stamen: am going to log off and log her on to see if it works ...I will be right back07:46
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stamendominik_: it works withjout sound07:47
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geniistamen kaffeine has no sound either with 3gp type?07:47
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j_SystemGuard reports that: Memory: 965,408KB used, 69,432 free07:49
j_isn't this kinda bad?07:49
Dr_willisyou have free memory... thats good.07:49
Dr_willis:)07:49
stamengenii: I think so07:49
stamenI will make a new clip with sound and I will try later07:50
j_also, Juk has Vmsize of 119,68007:50
stamengenii: 10x for the help for now07:50
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j_but does this mean that ~950Mb of memory is currently used?07:51
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geniistamen best luck07:51
stamenwho can tell me how to make the tv out to be with color07:51
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stamengenii: 10x07:51
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stamenI make it to work but it is black and white07:51
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stamen:(07:52
Dr_willisj_,  looks that way.07:52
yelonekhi, i have problem with WineCVS.sh script it says:07:52
geniiYou mean X10 ?07:52
yelonektest: 43: ==: unexpected operator07:52
yelonekWineCVS.sh: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected07:52
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yelonekwhen i run it in bash07:52
Dr_willisj_,  try the 'free' command07:52
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Dr_willisyelonek,  try 'bash whatever.sh'07:52
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j_total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached07:53
j_Mem:       1035680     972224      63456          0      14672     74992007:53
j_oops, didn't mean to paste all that, sorry07:53
Dr_willisor edit the first line of that script to be like #!/bin/bash  instead of #!/bin/sh07:53
NamShubj_: memory isnt free'd until needed07:53
j_Namshub, ahah, this was all new to me07:53
j_a linux thing then07:54
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yelonekDr_willis:  wtf ?? how did you know ? it's running !07:54
Dr_williswindows works the same way i think... sor tof.07:54
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NamShubbasically, as lnog as you dont use swap you dont have to care... ;)07:54
Dr_willisyelonek,  The Ubuntu  devs (or someone) decided to switch to 'dash' as the default 'sh' shell. instead of bash.07:54
j_but windows task manager reports allocatable memory as free donnit?07:54
Dr_willisyelonek,  and its caused a few issues with non-posix compliant scripts07:55
Dr_willisyelonek,  it can get to be a heated topic at times. :)07:55
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j_konsole takes ages to load, like 3 seconds for me at least07:55
yelonekDr_willis: thank you! pl community didn't help me07:55
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Dr_willisyelonek,    they perhaps dident even know. :)07:56
NamShub!dash07:56
ubotu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"07:56
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NamShubinteresting, i didnt know that07:56
Dr_willisheh - from what i hear its more like 'since bash isent  100% posix complient' -07:56
yelonekDr_willis: ha! I'll tell them :)07:56
NamShubhopefully this will lead to more posix-compliant script :)07:57
Dr_willisheh.. that factoid seems to make it sound like its dash's fault.07:57
j_also, I installed something called preload but can't find in the processes anywhere07:57
Dr_willisbash in 'posix' mode dosent error/warn/falt out when you do non-posix things.07:57
genii!ash07:57
ubotuash: Compatibility package for the Debian Almquist Shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-3ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 68 kB07:57
Dr_willisor so i researched.07:57
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geniihmm07:57
Dr_willisand you can make SOME scripts work by changing that #!/bin/bash /sh line. :)07:58
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j_ntfs_filldir(): Skipping unrepresentable inode, I have these in my system log, should I be worried?08:02
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j_aha, it's probably scandic characters on my windows drive08:03
j_btw, is it possible to make kate display scandinavian characters correctly?08:03
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jason_what media player can i use to play wmv and quicktime videos?08:08
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kilraetry vlc08:09
kilraeor install w32codecs and you ought to be able to play them in kaffeine or xine or mplayer08:09
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jason_ok, i'll try that08:11
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tilkHello. Im the fresh user of Kubuntu 6.06   Im looking for the answer for few questions. Am I at the right place here?08:14
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abattoirtilk: sure, you can ask here :)08:15
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abattoirtilk: you might want to read the FAQ and the Desktop guide too though08:15
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tilkI have forgotten to allocate the hard disc before install the system, now I have everything in one partition08:17
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tilkIS there any tool to make it now?08:17
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abattoirtilk: you mean you want to create a separate /home partition ?08:17
tilkI wanna have one for swapping, one for system itself and one for my data08:17
tilkyeah08:17
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abattoirtilk: you can try qtparted or gparted to resize your current partition, then create space for swap08:18
tilkin fact Im not sure if swap has own partition or not....I just havent created it08:19
tilkIs there any graphic interface for it or do I need to use console?08:19
abattoirtilk: qtparted and gparted are both applications with a graphical interface08:20
abattoirtilk: both of them use the program parted as a backend, which has a console interface08:20
genii-awayeg: Gnome PARTition EDitor08:20
tilkthx and how can I run them?08:21
abattoir!info qtparted08:21
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB08:21
abattoirtilk: open up Adept Package Manager, and install qtparted08:21
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abattoiror 'sudo apt-get install qtparted' if you prefer the cli08:21
BluesKaj!gparted08:21
ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php08:21
abattoirtilk: it is the same application that you might have used while installing kubuntu(if you used the live cd)08:22
tilkhmm, thx a lot, Ive got it08:23
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BluesKajFF 3 seems quite fast , but it doesn't support mplayer plugins yet...bummer!08:24
genii-awayis FF 3 out of alpha yet?08:25
BluesKajno08:25
tilkhmm, Im not sure about there partitions. I can see three. 01 /dev/hda1 -ext3  02 /dev/hda2 -extended 02 /dev/hda5 -linux-swap.  The first one has Status "Active"08:25
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BluesKajhda1-that's your windows partition08:27
abattoirBluesKaj: ext3 ?08:27
abattoirtilk: that's most probably your root partition08:27
BluesKajusually it is anyway08:27
abattoirunless you have another linux installation08:27
tilkwhich one? Active?08:27
abattoirtilk: /dev/hda108:28
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genii-awayActive just means bootable08:28
BluesKajoh i see hda1 is ext308:28
tilkyes, its 54GB, hda2,5 are both 1GB08:28
crubeWhere can I disable StickyKeys. I accidently turned it on and now I just wanna cry08:28
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BluesKaj.me slaps his naughty fingers for getting ahead of the thinking process!08:29
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tilkso I need to allocate hda1. What does the second partition mean? 02 /dev/hda2 Type: extended ?08:29
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tilkHow can I create new partition here? (Without formating the old one) I cant find it08:32
BluesKajcrube, sys/settings/regional&language/keyboard layout/enable keyboard layouts/switching options tab08:32
RealisticDragontilk: you can use qtparted08:32
geniitilk if you type in console "mount|grep hda" does it tell you hda2 is mounted someplace?08:33
RealisticDragonor fdisk if you prefer (command line app)08:33
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abattoirtilk: hda5 is most probably a logical partition, hence hda2 is an extended partition, meaning it doesn't physically take up 1GB(that's the 1GB taken by hda5)08:34
tilkConsole says:    /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)08:34
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abattoirtilk: hda1 is the root partition(presumably the one you want to resize)...08:35
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abattoirtilk: hda5 is swap(the kubuntu installer probably created it for you)08:35
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ollie__hey08:35
tilkabattoir: yes, I see. So...how can I resize hda1?08:36
ollie__i have a problem with firefox32 on amd64 pc08:36
ollie__it ran b efore08:36
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ollie__but after installing build essentials08:36
ollie__it wont run08:36
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ollie__get this error08:36
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abattoirtilk: use qtparted08:36
ollie__ With the introduction of the free Player, VMware is making virtualization readily available to all IT professionals who need to evaluate applications or beta software or to simply share virtual machines with their colleagues. "08:36
ollie__ Dave Parsons, Senior Vice President of Product Development08:36
ForgeAusum hey all08:37
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ollie__oopos08:37
ollie__hahahaha08:37
ollie__thats not the error08:37
abattoirollie__: please don't paste here....08:37
ForgeAuswhat happens when you use adept?08:37
abattoirif it's large08:37
ollie__pastebin?08:37
abattoirollie__: yes08:37
geniitilk you will probably want to destroy hda2 then as well, since it's not mounted08:37
ollie__sorry, i pasted that by accident08:37
tilkabattoir: Yes, this is program which I use...but I dont know how to do it08:37
abattoirForgeAus: what do you mean? it is a package manager08:37
tilkgenii: destroy hda2...hmmmm... I dont know, if it helps...08:38
tilk:)08:38
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ollie__ok paste bin isnt working08:38
ollie__il paste the last 2 lines of the error here08:38
ForgeAusabattoir exactly but does it keep the packages?08:38
ollie__usr/local/firefox32/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:38
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ollie__and this08:39
ollie__ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.08:39
ollie__sorry for the pasting08:39
ollie__its firefox32 on an amd64 machine08:39
abattoirForgeAus: yes in /var/cache/apt/archives08:39
ollie__worked fine before08:39
ForgeAusI made a 4 gig partition for it and its all full already!08:39
tilkI cant use "resize" to root partition (hda1) I can only use it for others08:40
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abattoirtilk: that's because it's mounted, you are on it08:40
geniitilk if you destroy hda2 (since not used) you can amalgamate it into a resized a1 or other partition)08:40
abattoirtilk: use a live cd, like the kubuntu disk, run qtparted(make sure hda1 is unmounted) then resize08:41
abattoirtilk: also make sure you've backed up important data08:41
abattoirollie__: do you have libgobject.... in /usr/lib32 ?08:41
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abattoirollie__: also what are you using? linux32?08:42
ollie__erm,08:42
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ollie__well,08:42
ollie__ive installed kubuntu08:42
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tilkok, Im gonna try it08:42
ollie__then followed a guide in the forums08:42
ollie__enabling me to run08:42
ollie__firefox 32 (so i can use flash 9)08:43
abattoirollie__: which one? link?08:43
ollie__on my amd64 kernel08:43
ollie__http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=117443508:43
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ollie__abattoir if you skip down to the manual howto bit08:43
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ollie__ive tried reinstalling the ia32-libs08:44
ollie__but to no avail08:44
abattoirollie__: ok, go to /usr/lib3208:44
ollie__yes08:44
ollie__im there08:44
abattoirollie__: look for  libgobject-2.0.so.008:45
ollie__hm08:45
ollie__cant see it08:45
abattoirollie__: it should be a symlink to another file08:45
ollie__isnt there08:45
abattoirollie__: try reinstallin ia32-libs-gtk08:45
abattoirollie__: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ia32-libs-gtk'08:46
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ollie__done08:46
abattoirollie__: try running firefox3208:47
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ollie__nah same problem08:47
abattoirollie__: is the file there now?08:48
ollie__can i paste the output in a query08:48
mats!pastbin08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
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ollie__paste bin isnt working.08:48
matsok (-:08:48
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ollie__abattoir the file isnt there :(08:48
matsI think you have to past then08:48
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yopyopyopsalut08:49
matshi08:49
yopyopyophi08:49
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yopp!french08:50
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:50
abattoirollie__: could you try reinstalling all those packages?08:50
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ollie__ive tried that before08:50
ollie__didnt work08:50
abattoirollie__: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ia32-libs etc. etc.'08:50
matsrebuild ;)08:50
sparrwThe large blue 3D gear with the planet earth inside it...  Is that image available anywhere in a useful format?08:50
Rob-Westcan someone help me install all my mdeia codecs08:51
Rob-Westmedia*08:51
abattoir!codecs | Rob-West08:51
ubotuRob-West: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:51
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sercikhi to all08:53
sercikexcuse me if i ask to you08:53
sercikbut you are the best that i know08:53
kbytehi everyone08:53
serciki have installed 2 distribuction of linux one in the first partition and one in the second08:54
serciki have grub in mbr08:54
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kbytei have a problem wtih my vga08:54
kbytecan someone help me pls?08:54
serciksomeone could help me to add the second operating system to grub?08:54
sercikkbyte nvidia or ati08:54
sercik?08:54
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kbytesercik it is an ati 200m pcie08:55
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tilkHi, Im back. So... It wasnt possible to resize it also when I tried to do it from LiveCD. It looked same.08:55
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sercikdo you have installed driver?08:55
kbyteyeah08:56
kbytebut still 3d accel does not working :(08:56
serciktry glxinfo | grep renderer08:56
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kbytesercik letme see08:57
tilkHave you got any ideas why didnt it work?08:57
kbyteXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".08:58
kbyteOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect08:58
metressercyk : have you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?08:58
kbytetilk i don't know08:58
kbytei downloaded the ati script in ubuntu forums08:58
kbytewith ati 8.32.5 driver08:58
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sercikno08:58
serciki want someone to help me for that08:59
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serciki have ubutnu in hda2 and a /boot partition with fedora in hd108:59
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yoppdid you quit x window then09:00
sercikkbyte excuse me it was glxinfo | grep render09:00
yoppafter install the driver (sh nameofthedriver.run)09:00
metressercik : paste me your menu.lst... ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)09:01
kbytesercik i did that09:01
kbytefirst i installed the lates driver09:01
kbytesercik the ati 8.32.509:02
sercikkbyte glxinfo | grep rendering and paste me the output09:02
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kbyteand then in my bash type glxinfo | greo render09:02
sercikmetres for now i'm on windows09:02
kbytebut still nothing09:02
Rob-Westmusic is sweet09:02
serciktry again and check for the correct spelling09:03
sercikRob-West is good to help ypu kbyte09:03
sercikHi Rob!09:03
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sercikmetres i will restart in kubuntu and then well speak again!09:04
tilkSo I still need to resize hda1, make it smaller, create the next partition and use the free space for it09:04
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yopptilk are you on windows09:05
yopp?09:05
yoppbecause you have to erase swap09:05
kbyteWHO IS ROB-WEST09:05
yoppif you dont do it you can resize09:05
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yopppartition wich are on windowshard drive09:06
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yoppcant09:06
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slow-motionhallo09:07
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crimsonif i download and install a program in the terminal and it doesn't do it automatically, how can i get it to be listed in my menu?09:07
lsprocI am trying to get my Samba printer to work, but when I go to the workgroup and select the PC, I get Access Denied, even though the printer works anonymously09:08
tilkno, Im on linux09:08
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matsno, your on a gnu/linux system ;)09:08
yopphave you a windows system09:08
yoppdual boot?09:09
sercikmetres: i'm on kubuntu09:09
tilkNo, I have only linux09:09
sercikehich was the paste address09:09
yoppok , sorry09:09
tilkthere is nothing on this disc, I formatted it completely when I installed Kubuntu ;)09:09
yoppbecause i had a similar problem09:09
yoppbut it was because of windows swap09:10
tilkI know in windows there is good program for this, I have also used it few times in the past and it worked very well but now I need to do it from Linux09:10
metressercik : you have to open your redhat boot menu and kubuntu boot menu...09:11
yoppqt parted didn't work?09:11
matscfdisk ?09:11
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sercikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37952/plain/09:11
CotRo|eRwhat does this mean?: bug: soft lockup detected on cpu #0!09:11
metressercik : I have redhat and kubuntu too...09:11
sercikok now i munt fedora partition09:11
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metressercik : menu-normal.lst09:13
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tilkyopp: No, I wasnt able to resize that partition09:14
tilkyopp: Probably cause Im useing it now...But it also didnt work when I tried to make it from LiveCD09:14
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sercikand that's fedora menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37954/plain/09:15
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sercikmetres: is ok?09:17
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metressercik : just add this (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37955/) to the end of your menu.lst...09:17
BluesKajsercik, this is a kubuntu ch , if you want fedora help I recommend  #fedora09:17
sercikno blueskaj i like you09:17
sercikan   don't worry i don't want help wih fedora only with grub09:18
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BluesKajI don't understand why you want fedora anyway09:18
yopptilk: did you unmount disk09:18
tilkyopp: I dont know :) How can I do it?09:18
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sercikblueskaj i want only see the new fc6 but i think i have already done my choice don't worry i like ubuntu much09:19
metressercik : is that ok ?09:19
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serciki think so09:20
fogot09:20
sercikbut for now i don't want to restart09:20
yopptilk: did you try with only the disk you want to resiz plugged09:20
metresunderstand...09:20
sercikthank you metres09:20
sercikthank you metres09:20
metrespleasure :)09:20
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serciki have also downloaded the 32 bit version of kubuntu i think that i will install that09:21
sercikfor now i'm on 64 bit09:21
yopptilk: have you already use qt parted09:21
metresIM on 64 too09:21
serciki'm not able to see quicktime videos with konqueror09:21
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crimsonif i download and install a program in the terminal and it doesn't do it automatically, how can i get it to be listed in my menu?09:21
sercikcrimson: you can install menu package09:22
crimsonhow so?09:22
sercikor you can edit a .desktop file09:22
tilkyopp: qtparted is the program which I use for it. I just cant click on resize...09:22
sercikor you can simpy edit the menu with kde menu editor09:23
Akuma_after i login i get an empty screen. could anyone give me hits? what should i look for to try and troubleshoot?09:23
Akuma_*hints09:23
tilkyopp: Oh I havent seen your post before. I have only one disk, if you ask on this.09:23
crimsonthe thing is, they don't get listed in my menu editor or package manager09:23
crimsonbut they are installed09:23
yopptilk: ok did you select the disk first09:23
serciknot all programs add an entry into menu09:23
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yopptilk: i know that a stupid question09:23
crimsoni know09:23
sercikbut if you install menu packge some of tha will appear09:24
metrescrimsom which program ?09:24
crimsonbut how do i do that?09:24
crimsonlots of programs09:24
crimson20+09:24
serciksudo apt-get install menu09:24
serciksudo aptitude install menu09:24
crimsonboth commands or just one?09:24
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metresone09:24
sercikare the same09:24
crimsonalright, thanks09:25
sercikwitgh aptitude you can also install related packages09:25
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sercikapt-get install all the reauired package09:25
crimsonis this a partial or full solution?09:25
sercikpartial09:25
sercikthe problem is that some package are optimized for debian and not for ubuntu09:25
crimsonah09:25
metrescrimsom : right-click on the menu and select edit menu09:26
sercikin debian that program install a shurtcut in kubuntu no09:26
crimsonit seems like most09:26
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serciki have had the same problem09:26
crimsongotcha09:26
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crimsonmetres: thats not the problem09:26
serciki have a related program my menu lacks the game categories09:26
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sercikprogram=problem09:27
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tilkyopp: What do you mean?09:27
crimsonsercik: after that menu installation is done, what must be done?09:27
serciknothing09:27
serciksome shortcut will appears automatically09:28
sercikbut not all09:28
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crimsoni have no changes09:28
matthewgenii, how about those scsi's?09:28
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tilkyopp: anway you aked me if I unmounted disk...what did you mean?09:28
serciki don't remember who on this forum have suggsted me that solution09:29
sercikbut for me works09:29
crimsonokat09:29
crimsoni'll play around a bit09:29
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crimsonthanks for the help09:29
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geniimatthew Hey hi :) Right now I scavenged some old 18s09:29
yopptilk: i dont know too because it was a problem due to the swap windows i had to erase to unmount disk but for linux i dont know09:30
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serciksomeone can play quicktime video with 634 bit kubuntu?09:32
sercik bit09:32
sercik64 bit09:32
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matthewgenii-customer, i, oh, ok...was kinda wondering why you didn't contact me...but it was cool, cause I don't know if there are any scsi's left, or just old IDE's09:32
matthewI mean, ATA's09:32
matthewsercik, whoa, 634 bit!?!? amazing...lol. 634 bit ftw09:33
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sercikmatthew: 64 bit worry :)09:33
matthewlol09:33
xenol!edubuntu09:34
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org09:34
serciksorry09:34
matthewsercik, I was just kidding...09:34
serciki know09:34
xenolwat is in edubuntu? KDE or GNOME? plz09:34
sercikplease help me with quicktime09:34
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sercikkonqueror try to open with kaffeine that can't play09:34
matthew!attitude | sercik09:35
ubotusercik: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:35
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matthewsercik, if you don't get help, that means that either nobody knows, or nobody who knows is available09:35
sercikmatthew: sorry09:35
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genii-customerbrb, dealing with a customer. ...gimme 2-3 minutes09:35
serciki don't think to disturb!09:35
matthewgenii-customer, that's cool09:35
matthewsercik, np09:35
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matthewsercik, where are you located?09:36
sercikmatthew i don't want to disturb ok?09:36
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sercikin italy,sicily,palermo09:36
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matthewsercik, chill out...it's fine...no worries here09:36
matthewsercik, ah, that's pretty remote...it really sucks trying to figure something out when all the help is in a different language09:37
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sercikdon't tell me that then!!09:37
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serciki don't have problem with english09:38
serciki don't speak good but read very good09:38
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matthewsercik, ah, ok.09:39
sercikmy attitude is not good? i haven't had problem for now with other people!09:39
serciki like kubuntu also for you, but if you don't like me! goodbye!09:39
fdovingsercik: what is your problem? can you please repeat your first question?09:40
serciki have many problems :)09:40
sercikhi fdoving09:40
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xenol!inkspace09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inkspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
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ubuntu_siemka09:41
serciknow i want to exit for a walk and a beer sorry but i can't offere to you! i think that in the next day i can't speak in chat so merry christmas to all also matthew :)09:42
fdovingsercik: have a nice walk, and a merry christmas to you too. :)09:42
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sercikand have a nice beer that is more important than walk :)09:43
felixhi, does anyone know why i could be getting choppy framerate while playing a video or dvd in fullscreen? I get the same problem with Kaffeine and VLC.09:43
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sercikalso if i can meet some girls will be better.......09:43
sercikgoodbyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1109:43
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matthewso, is there a reason my computer freezes whenever someone calls my skype line?09:43
crimsonsee you09:43
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xenolmathhew news says about some worm in skype network09:44
xenolmayb it is it :p09:44
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matthewxenol, got a link?09:45
geniipossibly some crappy souncard runs off the cpu like a winmodem09:45
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xenoli read it in slovak so if u understand then OK09:45
xenolwait ibrowse09:45
matthewgenii, maybe...I'm using an integrated sound card...09:45
xenolhttp://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006-121910-5339-99&tabid=109:46
xenolher eit is but only win platform is infected it seems but who knows09:46
matthewxenol, seems like that's only windows...09:46
xenolmatthew and r u sure that it cant be in linux client ?09:47
matthewxenol, moderately sure...linux doesn't do virii09:47
geniimatthew have youi tried "top" in a console to see what the resource hogs are?09:47
xenolwell not in cleint09:47
xenolbut network09:47
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geniiI sure wish they'd open-source gizmoproject already09:48
matthewyeah...it's mainly xorg, then java (for azureus), then superkaramba, then skype when I'm talking.09:48
[GuS] guys, there is any howto around to build repositories with falcon?09:49
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matthewgenii, that was at you, sorry....09:49
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matthewgenii, yeah...it's mainly xorg, then java (for azureus), then superkaramba, then skype when I'm talking.09:50
ryanakcaCan someone help me get gpg + kmail set up please?09:50
endo602hello... Can anyone help me mount shared windows folders to my linux box?09:50
DaSkreech!ru09:50
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke09:50
endo602I am getting errors I dont understand09:50
geniimatthew Maybe try to place the soundcard on some isolated resources (irq not shared etc)09:50
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matthewgenii, ok. (here we go again!) how do I do that?09:51
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mkl986salve ragazzi09:51
erik__anybody from Brazil?09:51
mkl986ho bisogno di aiuto09:51
mkl986di tanto aiuto e tanta pazienza09:51
mkl986qualcuno ha tempo da dedicarmi?09:51
DaSkreechxenol: Edubuntu has Gnome with KDE programs09:52
fdoving!it | mkl98609:52
ubotumkl986: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:52
matthewmkl986, nadie aqui habla tu lengua...creo09:52
mkl986sorry09:52
mindspinthe "windows" icon looks very geeky ;-)09:52
mkl986tnx and bye bye09:52
mindspinoops09:52
DaSkreech!inkscape > xenol09:52
mindspinwrong channel09:52
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geniimatthew LOL .. well, I would reboot, go into bios and see if you can find the "Integrated PEripherals" section or similar. Most bios have a place there to disable or configure the devices. If soundcard uses some interrupt shared (especially with network adapter) try to put it on an isolated IRQ, or with a device not using video or network09:53
geniieg: modem, serial port or USB, etc09:53
xenoldaskreech hey is inkspace good?09:54
matthewgenii, ah, okey doke...brb09:54
endo602can some one help me with mounting shared folders?09:54
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SensaeHello09:55
erik__What the channel to the Kubuntu Brazil?09:55
DaSkreechxenol: It's inkscape :)09:55
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DaSkreech!br09:55
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.09:55
endo602sensa can you help me09:56
endo602?09:56
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DaSkreechendo602: have you tried samba?09:56
endo602yeah09:56
xenollol09:56
xenol!inkscape09:56
ubotuInkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more09:56
endo602i get an error09:56
BrianSteffens|zzcan someone tell me why i might randomly not be able to empty trash of a certain file? it's rather frustrating when i delete a large, complex directory structure and then have to use terminal to navigate to the trash and manually sudo rm *, sudo rmdir * etc09:56
DaSkreechendo602: did you try smb:// in konqueror?09:56
korotanthzt09:56
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endo602i'll try that now09:56
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DaSkreechIt has nothing to do with space xenol :)09:56
SensaeI just installed Kubuntu alongside Windows XP, GRUB's working fine. I have two accounts, one's for a friend and limited, the other I use for system stuff. I changed the resolution in my admin account, and now he can't log on. He gets "Cannot run kstartupconfig"09:56
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endo602its asking me for authentication when I didnt specify any09:57
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geniiendo use the name windoze uses when it asks you to login (eg: administrator or home user etc etc)09:58
fdovingSensae: how limited is his account? kstartupconfig should always be available, at /usr/bin/kstartupconfig09:58
endo602NICE09:58
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endo602how do I got about mounting it?09:58
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Sensaefdoving: Mainly just can't su/sudo09:59
geniiendo Do you just want to navigate to it and pull files or have the linux box mount it to a dir when you boot etc?09:59
xenoldaskreech i know mistype btw why is my konqueror kinda sluggish?09:59
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Sensaefdoving: However, when I created it before I added him to any groups I could log on with his account. And the only group he was in was his account's group09:59
yelonekwhat is sluggish ?09:59
touchscreenCan someone tell me how to get kubuntu to recognize my usb touchscreen monitor? I've modprobed all the drivers that Kubuntu has in the touchscreen directory, but non e of them work.10:00
erik__Algum pd me explicar como que eu acesso o canal ubuntu-br?10:00
_kuja_Sensae: back up his folder, delete the username/folder, recreate it, assumign it hasn't been too heavily customized. Failsafe way to fix it everytime :)10:00
fdovingSensae: hmm.. if you login to his account from console ctrl+alt+f1, (ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X).. can you run /usr/bin/kstartupconfig directly?10:00
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Sensae_kuja_: This is an install that happened last night. I just migrated him from Ubuntu, so all his files are still on a backup10:01
_kuja_with the startx or startkde commands. Give it a try if you think it'll work.10:01
Sensaefdoving: Lemme go try that, his system's in a different room, brb10:01
endo602genii, yes10:01
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fdovingyelonek: sluggish is slow, slow motion, or something like that.10:01
endo60210734: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)10:02
endo602SMB connection failed10:02
endo602that is the error i get10:02
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Sensaefdoving: Trying to create local folder //.kde permission denied10:02
geniiendo602 right now I am on a windoze box ... you may find something useful with "man smbfs"10:03
touchscreenCan someone tell me how to get kubuntu to recognize my usb touchscreen monitor? I've modprobed all the drivers that Kubuntu has in the touchscreen directory, but non e of them work.10:03
_kuja_Sensae: try this:10:03
geniiendo It should give you the syntax for putting the password/username10:03
fdovingSensae: ah.. as your user run 'sudo chown hisusername.hisusergroup -R /home/hisusername'10:03
_kuja_sudo chown HISUSERNAME:HISUSERNAME /home/HISUSERNAME10:04
fdoving:)10:04
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_kuja_erm, and yes, I forgot the -R10:04
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Sensaefdoving: Okay, should I change /home/name to his actual home? This is a windows/kubuntu dualboot that shares a fat32 partition, his home is /media/fiels10:05
Sensae*/media/files10:05
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_kuja_and it would seem fdoving and I thought exactly the same thing at the exactly the same time and both of us decided to say hisusername..... weird.10:05
fdovingSensae: that explains why this doesn't work. his home can't safely be kept on a fat32 partition.10:05
_kuja_Sensae, yes, you should10:05
SensaeReally? Hrm10:05
fdoving_kuja_: that's funny, hisusername :)10:06
fdovingSensae: I recommend keeping the home at /home/hisusername and make a link from his /home/hisusername/winfiles to -> /media/files..10:06
sparrwwhere can i find a list of features, or included software, on the kubuntu 6.10 cd?10:06
fdoving.. or something like that.10:06
_kuja_Sensae, change the home to something such as /home/hisusername, just so you can have it back on a linux compatible partition.10:07
_kuja_This is insane ... Kopete's using 134MB of RAM. Bah.10:08
SensaeYeah. I just changed his home back and it logs in fine10:09
_kuja_sparrw, one sec10:09
geniisparrw If in your /etc/apt/sources.list all the entries except the cdrom entry are commented out , apt-get update will return only those packages which are contained on the cd10:09
SensaeBah, I don't remember how to enable ssh10:09
xenolplz someone can tell me where i can see review of kde based programs?10:10
geniiperhaps /etc/default/sshd ?10:10
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sparrwgenii: i was hoping for something higher level10:11
DaSkreechxenol: Kde-apps.org10:11
DaSkreechOr some such10:11
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kblogdoes anybody here know the problem with 3d-acceleration since an update about a week ago? (probably it was an upgrade from dapper to edgy via adept)10:12
LeeJunFanSensae: I've never done anything to enable it other than install the server portion of it.10:12
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geniisparrw In the dists/<suitename>/main/binary-i386   and dists/<suitename>/universe/binary-i386 there are Packages files etc10:13
xenoldaskreech do u know how can i erase temp of konqueror?10:13
_kuja_sparrw, kubuntu comes with kde, kate, konqueror, krita, ksnapshot, gwenview, konversation, kopete, ktorrent, some wireless tools, amarok, k3b, kaffeine, adept package manager, and openoffice, among other things10:13
geniicat Packages|grep deb etc etc10:13
DaSkreechtemp?10:14
xenolcache10:14
DaSkreechOh10:14
DaSkreechUmm10:14
xenoland histrory10:14
fdovinggenii: cat Packages is unnecessary, 'grep bah Packages' :)10:14
xenoli know it is in configure konqueror menu10:14
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xenolbut it doesnt delete histroy10:14
xenolhistory10:14
fdovinggenii: piping is slow, using grep directly is faster.10:14
ubuntu_!french10:14
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:14
geniifdoving :) I have to think linearly10:14
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DaSkreechxenol: There is a clear history like two options above cache10:15
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kay!linux10:15
ubotulinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux10:15
kay!laptop10:15
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org10:15
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unix_infidelkay: which laptop?10:15
kaygericom10:16
kay:)10:16
DaSkreech!windows10:16
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:16
kaynooo10:16
kayi only take linux10:16
_kuja_Hahahaha!10:16
kaybut dont know what for10:16
unix_infidelhttp://www.linux-on-laptops.com/gericom.html10:16
xenoli c THX10:16
geniiheh 'your nearest health institute'10:16
kaythx10:16
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DaSkreech!mac10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:17
DaSkreechDumb bot :)10:17
genii!imac10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:17
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DaSkreech!apple10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:17
xenol"ipod10:17
xenol!ipod10:17
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto10:17
DaSkreechHm so we don't care about them10:17
genii!basilisk210:17
ubotubasilisk2: 68k Macintosh emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.20050730-1 (edgy), package size 268 kB, installed size 784 kB10:17
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unix_infidelplease /query the bot if you need his assistance.10:18
xenol!ubotu10:18
unix_infidelhis / her....whatever :P10:18
DaSkreechit10:18
tony__hello, i want to install XGL so i can get the nice desktop effect . is it easy to isntal ? im new to linux10:18
tony__cube and other effects10:19
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kayunix_infidel: thx for this link10:19
genii!ppc10:19
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ubotuppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.10:19
TheDebuggertony__: You want beryl10:19
kaybut how do i know which linux is best for my notebook or other which linux ios small and fast?10:19
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unix_infidelthat's a reference link dude.10:20
tony__thanks . is beryl any easy to install and is it avalible as a kubuntu pacakge >10:20
unix_infidelgoogle for your laptop model make and whichever linux distribution you wish to use.10:20
kayhm...10:20
ubuntu__hello10:21
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AlexC_Heym10:21
AlexC_How do I install KDE themes?10:21
geniiAnyone compiled Conexant HSF or HCF drivers against Edgy yet?10:21
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AlexC_http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=49585 - this theme, how do I install that - I'm confused lol10:22
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AlexC_not as easy as Gnome's drag n drop!10:22
endo602for somereason this mounting isnt work10:22
ubuntu__AlexC go to ubuntulooks.org or someting (google it)10:22
endo602working in konsole10:22
imagine_Is there a nice howto on how to install AIGLX/BERYL on Kubuntu Edgy?10:22
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tony__ALso , are there any messenger with Webcam capablity for linux or is it only Gaim ???10:22
mhbhi all10:22
DaSkreechubuntu__: Hello10:22
AlexC_tony__: gaim doesn't have webcam10:22
tony__are there any option10:22
DaSkreechKopete does10:22
AlexC_yes, Kopete10:23
tony__ahh. ok thanks10:23
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AlexC_ubuntu__ ? Ubuntulooks.org ? I did google but I get nothing10:23
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AlexC_how do I insatll .qtfiles?10:24
ubuntu__AlexC: Sorry I meant  http://www.kde-look.org, didn't see your line untill after typing mine10:24
AlexC_and deKorator themes .... what they they may be10:24
imagine_IN order to install stuff on Kubuntu, can I use the same howto has the one for Ubuntu10:24
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geniiendo602 On your windoze box do you have the shares as read/write?10:25
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AlexC_ubuntu__ I have been on there, that's where I got the theme from - but it doesn't say how to install it?10:25
mhbI have a rather crazy question. I'm kind of bored with the KDE's UI. The kicker in Edgy is nice, the window decorations too ... but I start to dislike the grey in the menus and widgets. But I don't want to simply change it to another color.10:25
AlexC_I'm a noob when it comes to KDE, been a Gnome junkie for a year lol10:25
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endo602genii, yes10:26
mhbI want the menu/widget style to be a bit "prettier", more colourful, or more polished ... but simply: not so much grey10:26
imagine_AlexC_: ty ^10:26
AlexC_hum? what did I do lol10:26
endo602genii, i believe so10:26
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mhbthat's what I like on the Mac OS X or Vista screenshots ... the grey isn't everywhere as opposed to a Kubuntu KDE style dialogue.10:27
AlexC_=\ well geee I can't find anywhere to install themes lol10:27
DaSkreechAlexC_: Simple to say it's not drag and drop10:27
DaSkreech is there a README in the file?10:27
mhbcan someone recommend me a theme that isn't so grey and is more graphically pleasing?10:27
AlexC_yeah, I discovered that by my self. DaSkreech nope10:27
geniiendo602 If you right-click on the folder and select Sharing then look at the properties... in XP at least you need to have total access allowed (probably 2K as well)10:27
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endo602ive done that10:28
AlexC_just a .qtfile an kcsrs file, which I have installed! a deKorator theme ( what the hell is that? ) which I havn't installed10:28
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geniiendo I'll see if I can find you a sample fstab entry for smbfs10:28
endo602thanks10:28
endo602genii,  i checked out the wiki10:28
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AlexC_meh I'll find it out later! cya guys!10:30
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gumido u have any problem whit *ace??10:30
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ubuntu____Hi, Im Tilk, who was talking to you few minutes ago. I still need to create new partition in Kubuntu 6.06 Now I write you from LiveCD Kubuntu but I still cant resize hda1 partition. When I right click on /dev/hda it sais deviace status;busy ... it think it could mean something...that partition, I wanna resize is in use. But I dont know why, I restarted computer and run the systen from LiveCD10:31
geniiendo eg: in /etc/fstab              //server/share    /mnt/tmp   smbfs   noauto,username=administrator,password=  0 0        then: mount /mnt/tmp10:31
ranceCan someone point me in the right direction,  I recently upgraded dhcp client and my last reboot that broke my server, I have some supersede lines in my dhclient.conf file and dhpc3 is no longer using them.10:32
geniifor //server/share   you want IP if possible10:32
SensaeI just did an apt-get install sun-java-bin, how do I set it up to work with Firefox?10:32
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geniieg:   //192.168.0.101/sharedfoldername10:32
rancethis is a bad deal becuase without those supersede lines, sudo no longer works as it can validate a hostname10:32
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LBBSensae: are you sure it is not set up allready (maybe after a reboot)10:33
geniiendo Otherwise you need to find the name of your windoze box (the machine name not the login name)10:33
SensaeLBB: Lemme try a restart10:33
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touchscreenCan someone tell me how to make this Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1391:1000 into the /dev/usbwhatever format so i can put it in my xorg?10:35
LBBAnyone  know why it could be that unhide (hd0,1) in grub does not work, or how I should unhide a partition otherwise? I painted myself in a corner an am writing you from a Live-CD10:35
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SensaeLBB: Nope, it just doesn't work10:38
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LBBdoes adept say it is installed OK?10:39
BluesKajLBB, do you have GParted partition utlilty? it runs as a live cd and can rearrage, resize and create partitions and also rename them10:39
ubuntu__Hi. I used this command to mount my windows(NTFS)- drive. But I cant access it. Why and how do I access it ?10:39
SensaeNo clue. I'm using apt-get through ssh10:39
ubuntu__#mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_ntfs10:39
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notechwas mounted with root access only10:40
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ubuntu__notech: but shouldnt i be able to access it with Sudo then?10:40
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LBBBluesKaj: you mean QtParted? I have that but don't know how to unhide a parttition (I know how to do the other things you mentioned)10:41
notechtry mount -t ntfs -o umask=0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_ntfs10:41
ubuntu__ok thanks, will give it a try10:41
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SensaeLBB: The install in terminal went fine10:41
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notechhm, actually -o umask=0 might belong at the end ubuntu__10:42
notechnot sure it matters10:42
LBBSensae have you got a way to check the install10:43
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SensaeHOld on, brb10:43
ubuntu____Hello friends. Does any body know why cant I use qtparted for resize root partition<10:44
endo602genii,  here is the output [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab10:44
BluesKajno LBB, GParted , not the Qparted ... Gparted is much more stable and easier to use10:44
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tony__where can i find info on beryl ?10:44
xenol!beryl10:45
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl10:45
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xenoldaskreech do u know how many MB i have to download in order to upgrade to edgy?10:45
endo602worked10:45
geniiendo make sure you go to the end of the line you entered and then hit "enter to get to the line under it then save again10:45
JohnFluxxenol: between 400MB to 1GB10:46
_kuja_ooh, k3b 1.0 RC is out :)10:46
LBBKluesKaj: bash: Gparted: command not found10:46
JohnFlux_kuja_: oo, what's new?10:46
_kuja_not much, if you've used th e 1.0pre releases, have you?10:46
JohnFluxLBB: gparted10:46
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LBBbash: gparted: command not found10:47
BluesKajLBB , if you have access to another pc , DL  Gparted and burn it to a cd ...it's alive cd and you do the commands required from with in the cd10:47
_kuja_At any rate, 1.0 features usability improvements, and dvd ripping :)10:47
LBBI'm on a kubuntu live-CD10:47
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_kuja_Among probably other things, I think litescribe support was one of them10:47
_kuja_LBB, QtParted10:48
LBBBluesKaj: should't unhide(hd0,1) just work? I mean I think I have a problem other than wrong software10:49
BluesKajQT Parted can work but it's not easy to use for noobs _kuja_ ...I know from personal expreience10:49
_kuja_It's not that hard either ... compare with fdisk or parted ;)10:49
LBBkuja: I have QtParted and know how to work it, but not how to unhide10:49
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_kuja_LBB, what'd hidden?10:50
BluesKajcan't he just make it 'active' ?10:50
LBBkuja: my hd0,110:51
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geniiendo602 I need to leave this computer and go to my next work where there will be another computer. Are you getting anywhere? I will return in about 45 minutes.10:51
ForgeAusgrrr... Knoppix is a pain compared to kubuntu10:51
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ForgeAusbut I overloaded my Kubuntu VM and it died! lol10:51
ForgeAusthis knoppix doesn't even have a root password10:51
geniiForgeAus well, neither should Kubuntu have a root password normally10:52
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endo602genii, thanks.  will this auto mount for me10:52
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ForgeAusgenii then how do I install packages into it?10:52
LBBBluesKaj: I just made it active in QtParted, Is that thae same as unhiding it?10:52
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geniiendo602 Right now it is set to "noauto" in the fstab if you put that in. which means you have to type in "mount /mnt/place" manually. If you WANT it to auto-mount, change the "noauto" to "auto"10:53
geniiendo602 Tho I would recommend against it10:53
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geniiForgeAus sudo apt-get etc etc       or alternately    sudo su      then operate as root to do whatever, then: exit10:54
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endo602genii,  y?10:54
ForgeAusgenii if it doesn't have a root password then how?10:55
geniiendo602 Because if you do not have the windoze machine powered up every time and on the network before you boot the linux box, it can hang10:55
geniiForgeAus the default user is granted sudo rights eg: in sudoers file or else in group of admin which is allowed to sudoi using their own login password to authenticate their right to do so10:57
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Rob-Westi cant install gnome10:58
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geniiI have to go now or I will be late :) See you all in ~45mins10:59
Rob-West!pastebin10:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:59
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Rob-Westhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37980/10:59
Rob-Westtheres my problem10:59
knappAnyone here familiar with using GTKPOD?10:59
testmanhi10:59
LBBBlusKaj: I guess I'll just go try it, thanks!11:00
HymnToLife!anyone | knapp11:00
ubotuknapp: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?11:00
testmanhow can i play divx and xvid files under kubuntu?11:00
HymnToLifetestman, I personnally use kaffeine-xine, which was successful at playing everything I threw at it11:00
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testmanHymnToLife: i installed it with no success11:01
testmani installed all the xine stuff11:01
knappubotu: Sorry, it's a bad habbit I can't shake. Anyway...11:01
testmanalso w32codecs11:01
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knappoooooooops11:01
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HymnToLifeRob-West, install ubuntu-desktop instead11:01
jamesb_xsnow won't snow - nothing happens for me, neither on Breezy at work or edgy at home - any help appreciated - extremely important app this week :-D11:01
aleksanterianyone knows a command to reconfigure the internet connection?11:01
Rob-Westso reinstall11:01
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HymnToLifetestman, have you installed libxine-extracodecs ?11:02
knappHow do I get GTKPOD to read the album art.jpg in each directory and upload it to the ipod?11:02
Rob-Westor can someone help me update firefox11:02
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HymnToLifeRob-West, there's a page in the Wiki about installing the Mozilla.com build of FF11:02
jamesb_aleksanteri: tried the System Settings -> Network Settings menu?11:02
testmanHymnToLife: no, this package is not in my apt-cache11:03
HymnToLifehmm11:03
HymnToLife!libxine-extracodecs11:03
HymnToLife!info libxine-extracodecs11:03
HymnToLifeweird11:03
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB11:03
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HymnToLifetestman, multiverse enabled ?11:03
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towynclol thank god i have my kde desktop back11:04
Rob-Westwhy11:04
Rob-Westbrb11:04
towyncyesterday someone said to comment out everything in xorg.conf that had to do with wacom, i did that11:04
testmanHymnToLife: i guess, this is my sources.list http://rafb.net/paste/results/JreQY541.html11:04
towyncand it never let me back to kde till now i just uncommented those lines in vim11:05
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endo602How do i make vlc my default video player?11:05
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HymnToLifetestman, remove the spaces in front of lines 16/17/26/27/31/3211:05
HymnToLifealso, be sure to run apt-get update before11:05
towyncbtw i know ctrl alt f1 gets me to console mode, is there a shortcut to get me back from console mode to kde mode?11:05
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HymnToLifetowync, Alt+F711:06
testmanHymnToLife: i did it, same as before11:06
HymnToLifenot 100% suire, it can be F8, or F9, but it's sth like that :p11:06
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HymnToLifeno way11:07
HymnToLifepackage _is_ in multiverse11:07
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corbeau!french11:07
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:07
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_kuja_endo602, you can right click on the file, click on the wrench for edit file type, and it'll let you change the application preference order for that type of file. (for example, avi, or ogm, or wmv)11:08
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nivekkuja_, is that you?11:09
nivekor is this a different kuka11:10
nivekkuja*11:10
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_kuja_I don't know, which one are you expecting?11:10
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nivekkuja, no its not the kuja i thought i know11:11
nivek:P11:11
_kuja_amazing.11:11
makihello11:11
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testmanHymnToLife: i got it, i changed my sources.list to http://rafb.net/paste/results/sNSJya37.html and now it works :) thx buddy11:12
animimotushi11:12
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HymnToLifetestman, you're welcome :)11:13
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animimotusDigikam 0.9.0 has been released http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4264111:13
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animimotushow can we have the deb ? by Debian ?11:13
_kuja_What's new in 0.9.0?11:13
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makiare there another newbie's around11:15
BluesKajask yer question maki11:16
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_kuja_animimotus, I might be able to whip together a quick deb for it, if there's good reason to do so, anyway.11:17
maki?11:17
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Rob-Westcan someone help me find VIA integrated video drivers for Kubuntu11:18
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sparrwhow can i print in landscape orientation from inkscape?  or what lossless format can inkscape export to that i can print in landscape from another program?11:20
BluesKajRob-West, http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=3&FCat=2011:22
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_kuja_sparrw, you could export to png if I remember right11:23
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_kuja_Now where in the world did I dump that at ... can't remember where I installed k3b-pre211:26
sparrw_kuja_: and then what?11:27
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alleeanimimotus: debian has no digikam 0.9 debs  (etch is maybe even released with 0.8.2).  Most recent is 0.9 rc2 in feisty.  I've backported to edgy too11:27
_kuja_open the png in any graphics program ie: gwenview, and print11:27
sparrwtried gimp, it prints the right size but wont print landscape (guess i can try actually rotating the image...)11:28
sparrwtried krita, it wont print it at all11:28
alleethere has not that much changed to urgently jump to 0.9.  Hopefully I find time tonight to do 0.9 feisty/edgy  (tonight I was busy)11:28
Rob-West!java11:28
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:28
Rob-Westhow do i install Java from commandlines11:29
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_kuja_sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre11:29
animimotusallee: ok, someone has give me this line : apt-cache madison digikam11:29
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Rob-Westim used to Automatix11:29
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yopp!french11:30
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:30
_kuja_sparrw, and what of gwenview, or konqueror?11:30
sparrwgwenview prints it ridiculously zoomed in11:30
Rob-Westand automatix wont install11:30
_kuja_Well, the original was a vector graphic, so I suppose zooming in coulnd't hurt it too much.11:30
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_kuja_sparrw: you could probably scale it before printing, if it printed way too big, though.11:31
goodthingerm, anyone knows the command to force a fsck?11:31
alleeanimimotus: madison just lists what avaiable.   Are you using feisty or edgy11:31
allee+?11:31
_kuja_e2fsck for ext2/3 partitions11:31
sparrw_kuja_: scale it how?  i dont want some random size, i want it the RIGHT size11:31
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animimotusallee: Edgy11:32
sparrwaha!11:32
goodthingman fsck does not list a force option11:32
sparrwrotated the image in gimp11:32
_kuja_sparrw: could scale it in gimp or krita?11:32
sparrwnow its bearable11:32
alleeanimimotus: rc2 at http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/edgy/Pkgs.php11:32
alleeanimimotus: and in the next 1-2 days 0.911:32
ArvidWhere canI find "dircolors"? My gentoo-machine has it so I can get colors in my terminal when i list all my files?11:32
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Rob-Westwhat all web plugins do i need11:33
animimotusallee: thanks a lot11:33
goodthingah, e2fsck does had a force, t.h.a.n.k.s _kuja_ :)11:33
_kuja_arvid, edit your ~/.bashrc file11:33
goodthing*had11:33
alleeanimimotus: np11:33
goodthing*haS...11:33
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aleksanteriwhat's the command to reconfigure internet connection?11:34
Arvid_kuja_: to what? Right now i just copied my .bashrc from my gentoo-machine, and now i complains about "dircolors" - how should my .bashrc then look?11:35
_kuja_aleksanteri, depends what you need to do with it, you can do quite a bit in network settings in systemsettings11:35
_kuja_arvid, I'll show you m ine, one sec11:35
_kuja_!pastebin | kuja11:35
ubotukuja: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:35
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Arvid_kuja_: thanks (and here's mine, just in case :P http://bottiger.com/paste/lJOK6F8ayPzCPPEkM36h )11:35
aleksanteri!reconfigure internet connection11:36
aleksanteri" Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"11:36
aleksanteriO_o11:36
aleksanteri!configure internet11:37
aleksanteri!gimp11:37
ubotuAn advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.11:37
_kuja_Arvid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37988/11:37
aleksanteri:P11:37
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Arvid_kuja_: thanks - I'll try it11:38
BluesKaj!dhcp11:38
ubotudhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB11:38
_kuja_You can cut out some of the parts at the bottom, related specifically to my home bin folder and java611:38
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ryanakcaimbrandon: happy bday11:39
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knappIs it possible to submit album art to your ipod using gktpod?11:39
knappgtkpod*11:40
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ubuntucan anyone help me?11:47
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ubuntujucato?11:47
_kuja_whatcha need?11:48
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ubuntui'm trying to fresh install from edgy to feisty, but every time i reboot, it goes to edgy11:48
yelonek!sp11:48
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB11:48
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mkl986sorry italian chat?11:49
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yelonek!it11:49
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:49
gnomefreakmkl986: #kubuntu-it11:49
paranoid_androidhi there. id like to know if its possible to disable the server MOTD in konversation?? thank you :)11:49
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mkl986tnx11:49
_kuja_feisty? experimenting eh?11:49
animimotusone question please about restricted codecs : sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libakode2-mpeg w32codecs          installe the all paquake for Kubuntu like said inhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-74857744ddf74499c6447a19c7e94a2fcb382e0c ?11:49
ubuntuyeah11:49
_kuja_At the grub list, make sure you select the feisty kernel?11:49
animimotusthe codec list for ubuntu seems to be longer :)11:49
yelonek!flex11:49
ubuntucan i remove the other kernel?11:49
ubotuflex: A fast lexical analyzer generator.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.33-4 (edgy), package size 220 kB, installed size 936 kB11:49
_kuja_ubuntulog: I wouldn't, but I suppose you could, you would just be left with nothing to fall back to should something go wrong in feisty, which would be bad.11:50
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ubuntuno, i just want 1 OS installed11:51
_kuja_I've got my feisty running in vmware ... more convenient and there's no chance of it screwing things up for me :)11:51
ubuntuyes but i don't want to do that11:52
_kuja_ubuntulog: then go ahead and remove it? It would be something like linux-image-generic-`uname -r` I would presume11:52
yelonek_kuja_ :D i'm running virtual linux too, but it's damn slow11:52
ubuntui want to format the drive11:52
_kuja_yelonek: only on slow machines :P11:52
yelonek1,5Ghz Celeron + 512 MB RAM11:52
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_kuja_It performs acceptably for me, then again I've got an FX-60 and 2 gb of ram11:52
yelonekwhoa ;)11:53
_kuja_1.5GHz Celeron .... ouch11:53
paranoid_androidlol11:53
yelonekit's laptop which i bought year ago :P11:53
ubuntucan i format at install?11:53
yelonekin Poland :P11:53
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paranoid_androidoh you people with super pumped machines, forgetting what current selling standards for desktops are >_<11:53
paranoid_androidlol11:53
_kuja_ubuntulog: You could just delete your edgy partition prior to setting up feisty and that would set things up the way you want.11:54
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LBBHi everyone11:54
BluesKajgamrz ! as if that's important :)11:54
BluesKajhey LBB , how is ti going now ?11:54
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LBBBluesKaj: still on a live-CD11:55
ubuntuhow can i format the drive?11:55
_kuja_paranoid_android: my fx-60 is already feeling its age ... it can barely outperform a Celeron Duo (or whatever weird marketing phrase intel is throwing out now)11:55
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LBBubuntu: qtparted11:55
_kuja_ubuntulog: parted, fdisk, gparted, qtparted, cfdisk, take your pick.11:55
ubuntucan i enter that at bootup?11:55
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paranoid_android_kuja_, that still kicks most retail computer's bottoms easily your machine!! lol11:55
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_kuja_Darned straight it does :D11:56
LBBubuntu; qtparted is in the system menu11:56
ironfroggy_LThas anyone here use sshfs before?11:56
ironfroggy_LTor fuse in general. im getting lots of permission problems on the fuse binaries and devices.11:56
lupine_85ironfroggy_LT: I just use fish://11:56
BluesKajbragging rights ...that lasts for about 10 seconds , then what ?11:56
ubuntu_hi there11:57
ironfroggy_LTlupine_85: need it available to other things, like darcs.11:57
ironfroggy_LTplus things like amarok are stupid and refuse remote files.11:57
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LBBAnyone know how to unhide a partition? My machine just loads Grub stage 1.5 then gives error 1711:57
_kuja_then you eventually get desperate and drop $1000 on a phase change cooler, and have bragging rights for another year or two11:57
yelonekcan someone help me with compilation of cedega?11:57
yeloneki'm having lots of errors11:57
goodthingaleksanteri: just edit some file like /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking and be done with it. Though the kde system settings are probably easier11:58
yeloneksomeone told me i got bad flex package11:58
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yeloneki changed it to what he said, but that didn't change anything11:58
_kuja_Now, if only I had the money for that phase change cooler I saw a while back :(11:58
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LBBBluesKaj: I made the boot partition active, but no change11:58
BluesKajWhat about GAG , the GUI bootloader? , you may be able load that on to the HDD from the live cd11:58
ironfroggy_LTdoes fuse include a kernel component, and if so do i need to do anything to "enable" it after installation?11:59
LBBhow11:59
BluesKajit writes to the first block on the HDD11:59
_kuja_does GAG come with HACK and COUGH by chance?11:59
yeloneki'm using WineCVS.sh script11:59
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BluesKajha -ha _kuja_ , check it out11:59
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yeloneksome of errors:11:59
yelonek./ppl.l:1337: warning: implicit declaration of function max12:00
yelonek./ppl.l:1337: error: ALLOCBLOCKSIZE undeclared (first use in this function)12:00
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_kuja_now to fire up k3b 1.0RC2 for the first time :)12:00
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BluesKajhttp://gag.sourceforge.net/12:00
LBBBluesKaj: how do I boot it when all my machine does is say:loading grub stage 1.5 error 1712:00
_kuja_Looks like growisofs 7 is out ...12:00
LBBsorry dumb question12:00
_kuja_Oooooh, K3b can integrate with Konqueror now!12:01
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LBBBluesKaj I'll go find it, thanks12:01
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solanebonjour12:02
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ironfroggy_LTdo i have to mount fuse as root?12:02
_kuja_!french | solane12:02
ubotusolane: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:02
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solaneyes french12:03
ironfroggy_LTok, what does it mean when `ls -l` shows ?s for all the columns of a mountpoint?12:03
_kuja_That's odd, ironfroggy_LT12:04
ironfroggy_LTi thought so as well. i ran sshfs with sudo, no errors.12:04
ironfroggy_LTnow it shows the mountpoint with ?s in all columns, and tells me it doesnt exist if i try to do anything with it. even tho it shows up in listings.12:05
solanesorry i don't understand .... bye bye12:05
_kuja_bye12:05
solaneand good night12:06
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yopp!french12:08
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:08
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Dreamless!danish12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about danish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
DreamlessBugger :P12:09
ironfroggy_LTi see now that i dont have fuse-module isntalled. should that not have been included when i installed a fuse driver?12:09
_kuja_Not sure. If I had to deal with fuse I would probably blindly follow the ubuntu wiki to set it up12:09
BluesKaj!dn12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
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BluesKaj!da12:10
ubotuFor at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.12:10
towyncwhy is it that when i use kaffein to play .wmv movies, there's only sound12:10
DreamlessBluesKaj i have tried to use gag without luck on a ubuntu/windows dualboot disk. It booted windows okay but linux failed..12:10
DreamlessBluesKaj thanks :)12:11
=== _kuja_ wonders why someone would something other than GRUB to begin with
ironfroggy_LTbecause it doesnt work on some hardware.12:11
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BluesKajI had it working with Suse 10 and XP about 6 mos ago , then decided on kubuntu and been using GRUB ever since. ILBB's case i thought It might help him get out of the bootloader mess he seems to be in.12:12
towyncironfroggy_LT u weren't replying me right12:12
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JohnFluxI have a usb hard disk that I want to always mount in a certain place..  is there a way to uniquely identify the hard disk in /etc/fstab ? since it might not always be /dev/sdc12:14
_kuja_bootloaders are always a mess.12:14
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BluesKaj_kuja_, LBB's grub is screwed , how else can he rescue his installation ?12:14
eilker!webcam12:14
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:14
ironfroggy_LTtowync: no12:14
_kuja_JohnFlux, perhaps with UUID12:14
eilker!UUID12:15
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)12:15
_kuja_BluesKaj, perhaps redo the grub-install?12:15

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