[12:16] <matthew_> local, try sudo apt-get install -reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[12:16] <matthew_> local, or maybe gdm
[12:16] <local> ok
[12:16] <towync> in process of finding wacom =) one sec
[12:16] <natic`kubuntu> hi guys...
[12:16] <matthew_> towync, ok...
[12:16] <matthew_> natic`kubuntu, what's up?
[12:16] <natic`kubuntu> hm... i am wondering what beryl is, and if thats what i want
[12:16] <natic`kubuntu> :
[12:17] <natic`kubuntu> i only know this xgl thing
[12:17] <matthew_> !beryl | natic`kubuntu
[12:17] <ubotu> natic`kubuntu: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:17] <natic`kubuntu> yeah....
[12:17] <natic`kubuntu> i am reading
[12:19] <Ace2016> chmod 777 allows everyone to write to a file right?
[12:19] <natic`kubuntu> yep
[12:19] <matthew_> Ace2016, chmod 777 allows everyone to execute, write, and read the file
[12:20] <Ace2016> thanks
[12:20] <londo4> Anyone Can Help me?. myn kubuntu start only until logon srceen when I hit the password it come back to logon screen
[12:23] <towycn> matthew hi, i just pasted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37831/
[12:23] <londo4> I can't login to Kubuntu with my own username & correct password. I've tried many times, but not successful. Please help me.
[12:23] <fenerbahche> hi i have vmware under /var.  i am gonna create new partition and i will mount /home to the new partitions, i have already two guest os in vmware, what happens if i cut vmware and paste to the new partitons, will it still work ?
[12:23] <towycn> oops, was it matthew_, hi i just pasted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37831/
[12:23] <fenerbahche> londo4: it is like nightmare
[12:23] <fenerbahche> londo4: i had it too, solved it, but i still dont know how i did it
[12:24] <londo4> fenerbahche: big problem man
[12:24] <murchadh_bhaba> londo4, What does your login screen look like? A terminal (black with white writing) or graphical looking?
[12:24] <londo4> fenerbahche: graphical looking
[12:24] <matthew_> towycn, ok, you need to comment out the Section "InputDevice" sections that relate to wacom input stuff...basically, just what you already commented out, but comment out the whole section.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> well , i tried to run the install.sh script as root for devede27 , but it's not working...I did it successfully on older vers before but i've forgotten what i did
[12:24] <fenerbahche> londo4: there is menu, choose kde again try
[12:25] <londo4> fenerbahche: when I hit the password it return to logo screen again
[12:25] <fenerbahche> londo4: i mean in login screen
[12:25] <towycn> matthew_ ok, one sec =) thx
[12:25] <matthew_> towycn, np
[12:25] <murchadh_bhaba> londo4, Type alt+F1, report back
[12:26] <londo4> fenerbahche: yes login screen
[12:26] <matthew_> towycn, when you get done, paste it to pastebin again and...well, you know
[12:26] <fenerbahche> londo4: in login screen ,  choose menu and choose kde, than try pls
[12:26] <towycn> matthew_  cool, just double checking, should i comment out line 79 all the way to line 117
[12:27] <towycn> the site was at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37831/
[12:27] <matthew_> lemme look
[12:27] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, well , i tried to run the install.sh script as root for devede27 , but it's not working...I did it successfully on older vers before but i've forgotten what i did
[12:27] <towycn> matthew_ thx
[12:27] <londo4> fenerbahche: ok, i`ll try
[12:27] <matthew_> towycn, no prob, but I gotta go do something, be back in 5
[12:28] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, What exactly are you doing, and from where?
[12:29] <towycn> matthew_ cool =)
[12:30] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, I'm trying to install devede27 in the shell as root ..it says to run the "install.sh" script as root
[12:30] <fenerbahche> londo4: tried ?
[12:31] <towycn> matthew_ k i just did a new paste of the changed xorg.conf, i put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37834/  for when you get back, thx alot =)
[12:31] <londo4> fenerbahche: i have to shutdown this system
[12:32] <fenerbahche> londo4: ohh i see
[12:32] <schlupp> hi, somebody has second and could provide me some help with a monitor setting?
[12:33] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, So you are using sudo or you are root?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> i tried both sudo and sudo su , murchadh_bhaba
[12:35] <schlupp> somebody knows why there are differend settings for monitor for different users with the same xorg.conf (one user can use the twinview correctly, the other gets one black monitor after loggin in)
[12:36] <alexicon> !dvd
[12:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:36] <matthew_> towycn, I'm still here, but still unavailable
[12:36] <towycn> matthew_ yeah np, take your time, i'm not doing much besides listening to ipod/reading =)
[12:37] <towycn> matthew_ i've pretty much given up on beryl + kxdocker lol i'm just grateful someone might know =)
[12:40] <BluesKaj> how do I run an "install.sh" script as root ?
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> beryl rocks. I've been running it for well, since it was conceived from compiz, and ran compiz before that.
[12:40] <TheDebugger> sudo sh install.sh ?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> TheDebugger, where does the app name go ?
[12:42] <goodthing> i have kubuntu installed, but the media folder where kubuntu should be installed is ehm, empty (no, i am not joking)
[12:43] <goodthing> this appears to be a only a problem with a 750GB hard disk
[12:43] <goodthing> can anyone help me with that?
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: define "media folder"... do you mean /media?
[12:44] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: yes
[12:45] <goodthing> i mean /media/sda1 and /media/sda2
[12:45] <goodthing> sda1 should have my /home folder and sda2 the OS
[12:45] <alexicon> anyone know a good program for capturing dvd audio
[12:45] <goodthing> neither of bot are there
[12:45] <goodthing> *both
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab ?
[12:46] <goodthing> the only folder in those partitions is "lost+found"
[12:46] <LeeJunFan> !pastebin | goodthing
[12:46] <ubotu> goodthing: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:46] <goodthing> sure
[12:47] <murchadh_bhaba> goodthing, There isn't supposed to nbe anything in /media? Is that what you're saying?
[12:47] <alexicon> !wifi
[12:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:47] <goodthing> murchadh_bhaba: no the other way arround
[12:47] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37837/
[12:48] <goodthing> i have not changed anything is fstab, system is brand new
[12:48] <goodthing> just as the edgy installation
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> goodthing, murchadh_bhaba: he means they show empty on there, they don't seem to be mounted.
[12:49] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: perhaps if you change defaults to defaults,auto  - auto is to automount on boot.
[12:49] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: well, kde shows me at boot that /dev/hda is getting added on /media...
[12:49] <murchadh_bhaba> goodthing, At a shell, type mount and report back on the output.
[12:49] <sungam> Every time I reboot my computer, I have to do a 'sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia' to get it to load the latest drivers... any suggestions on how I can get it to load them from the get go?
[12:50] <murchadh_bhaba> goodthing, Should be straightforward enough get you sorted.
[12:50] <goodthing> but shouldn't each partition be dealth as a separate dev/location?
[12:50] <goodthing> hehe, cool :)
[12:51] <bgsteffens> i just woke up to my drive recovery finished
[12:51] <bgsteffens> 41 thousand files without names! lol
[12:51] <murchadh_bhaba> goodthing, LeeJunFan from what he reports, there aren't even mount points/directories there yet.
[12:51] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: you've got 3 paritions, sda2 is your root where your system is actually installed to and that won't show on /media/sda2 because it's mounted at /
[12:51] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37838/
[12:52] <goodthing> yep, /dev/sda2 if for kubuntu, /dev/sda1 for /home
[12:53] <goodthing> and /dev/sda5 for dump other files
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: ah, if you want sda1 for home it's not setup that way.
[12:54] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: you'll need to mount sda1 somewhere other than /home, copy what's in home now to sda1, then mount sda1 to home.
[12:54] <misael> how can i install a .bin file (it
[12:54] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: but why is my system running from it, i can even user /home/ with all files there...
[12:55] <mrTr0ut> for some reason when I restarted my pc, kubuntu started in terminal mode instead of KDE, Xserver is running but i try to switch over with ctrl-alt-f7 there's nothing but a black screen - like another terminal
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: lets start by getting /dev/sda1 mounted somewhere. try running sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /media/sda1
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: because /home is at the moment, on your sda2 drive.
[12:55] <goodthing> i see :)
[12:56] <misael> how can i install a .bin file (it's located at desktop)
[12:56] <misael> its steam linux dedicated server
[12:56] <hazard> misael do you know what the bin file is? like a macbinary compressed file? or a .bin as in .bin/cue?
[12:56] <LeeJunFan> misael: you need to change the permissions on it to make it executable, then run it. best bet is to run it from a shell so open konsole chmod +x [filename]  then ./[filename] 
[12:56] <misael> its a .bin
[12:57] <bgsteffens> is there a way to mount a network shared drive into my root filesystem somehwere?
[12:57] <hazard> bgsteffens: yes, with root access or sudo
[12:57] <hazard> (or setup autofs to do it)
[12:57] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: brb
[12:58] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, I have a /DATA directory on which I mount all my shares.
[12:58] <bgsteffens> would it look something like sudo mount smb://etcetcetc /media/something ?
[12:58] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: mounting /dev/sda1 gives me nothing, same lost+found folder
[12:59] <hazard> I think sudo mount -t smbfs -o [some stuff for username/password I forget what exactly]  //system/share /path/to/mount/folder
[12:59] <Cheza-chan> im having some problems connecting to my home wireless network on edgy. it connected to this same network just fine on dapper
[12:59] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: mounting /dev/sda2 instead gives me the OS, which seems correct
[12:59] <hazard> HOWEVER, i'd setup autofs to do it for you (provided you don't mind having the password in plain text in a config file somewhere)
[01:00] <hazard> *cricket*
[01:00] <mrTr0ut> anyone know? :/
[01:01] <hazard> Oh, mrTrout, your Xserver probably isn't starting on its own.
[01:01] <misael> i stiil need help with the hlsdupdatetool.bin file in my desktop
[01:01] <misael> i dont know how to run it
[01:01] <mrTr0ut> it is started, I started it..i stopped it, restarted it
[01:01] <mrTr0ut> nothing
[01:01] <Cheza-chan> it is a weird problem i can select the wireless and enable it in 'networking' but in network tools and system settings->network settings the wireless isnt there
[01:02] <hazard> huh...maybe xorg unconfigured itself?
[01:02] <Cheza-chan> misael a .bin is a binary file means you can run it as is. you maybe have to chmod +x it first
[01:02] <goodthing> mrTr0ut: might a a bad update from nvidia beta i think. I think i have read something about that on ubuntuforums. So you use nvidia videocard beta?
[01:02] <natic`kubuntu> heyo
[01:02] <natic`kubuntu> howto enable aixgl in edgy???
[01:03] <mrTr0ut> well I recently installed nvidia drivers before the restart, I don
[01:03] <mrTr0ut> I don't think it was beta though
[01:03] <misael> how i do that?
[01:03] <hazard> related to xserver, is it possible to get the tv card function working on a rage128AIW?
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yeah, the empty one with the lost and found is where you want to copy everything that's in /home to.
[01:03] <hazard> I don't care about the cable tuner, just the on screen display of the TV-in on the card.
[01:03] <Cheza-chan> misael all you have to do is open a console and cd ~/Desktop then chmod +x <filename>
[01:04] <misael> ok in <filename> i write hlsdupdatetool.bin or with out the .bin?
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: so sudo cp -va /home/. /media/sda1/. will get your stuff copying over to /dev/sda1 which we will make your new /home when it's done.
[01:04] <Cheza-chan> with the .bin
[01:04] <misael> ok thanks
[01:04] <hazard> if you try it one way, and it yells at you, then its the other.
[01:04] <misael> am going to try
[01:05] <Cheza-chan> the +x flag says 'give this file execute rights'
[01:06] <bgsteffens> sudo mount -t smbfs smb://briansecondary/Recover /media/recover...returns....mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on smb://briansecondary/Recover,
[01:06] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: to be honest, that sounds scary to me :p
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: after cp is done copying edit /etc/fstab, change /media/sda1 to /home
[01:07] <hazard> bgsteffens: you don't need the smb: before the //
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: all we are doing at this point is backing up what's in your current /home to your other partition with cp.
[01:07] <goodthing> k
[01:07] <hazard> and you need a -o password=xyz,username=hgj in there somewhere
[01:07] <bgsteffens> i don't know what the un/pw would be o.O
[01:08] <bgsteffens> it's completely unprotected
[01:08] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: changing the fstab entry tells it to mount /dev/sda1 to /home instead of /media/sda1 when it get's remounted.
[01:08] <hazard> bgsteffens: XPHome?
[01:08] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i know, i am just checking the current mounts so i can not make mistakes
[01:08] <mrTr0ut> ok I reinstalled the nvidia drivers and everything seems to work fine now
[01:08] <bgsteffens> hazard: it's XPPro, shared completely open to anything
[01:08] <hazard> because if it is, sometimes it won't let you connect unless you GIVE it some bogus username/password
[01:08] <snowrichard> hello
[01:09] <bgsteffens> really rofl
[01:09] <hazard> Huh, it might do the same thing, (but I don't think so) the only thing that might be a problem then is that the smb mounter might try to wait for a password or something silly like that
[01:09] <alexicon> hrmmm
[01:10] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: and sda1 already seems mounted on /media/sda1
[01:10] <alexicon> kubuntu seems to have an issue with ! being in wifi passwords........
[01:10] <bgsteffens> hm it's still giving me that useless error message that basically says 'something went wrong but i don't know what it is'
[01:10] <alexicon> iwconfig wlan0 key restricted s:pass!word doesnt work
[01:10] <alexicon> it thinks !word is a new command or something
[01:11] <snowrichard> kubuntu x86_64 works great on my E-machines t3508.
[01:11] <yorikk> ! is a special character in the shell
[01:11] <yorikk> try escaping it
[01:11] <psyoptik> anyone know the status on fixing the kdar package dependencies?
[01:11] <alexicon> thanks yorikk
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yes, it needs to be there until we are done copying the contents of /home to it.
[01:12] <hazard> well, after I've annihilated any hope of me ever getting my old build of mplayer working again, ever support library I've tried to complie so far has failed for obscure reasons.
[01:12] <hazard> Sigh, I hate this game.
[01:12] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, Check that smbclient is installed.
[01:13] <hazard> smbclinet, and there's something else that helps...not samba...smbmount? something like that I think
[01:13] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: ok, thanks. :) It seems to take some time
[01:13] <alexicon> nice wintick worked cheers
[01:13] <goodthing> althought i have one of the fastest desktop disks currently...
[01:13] <bgsteffens> hazard: smbclient is
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yeah, problem is though that you are copying from and to the same drive so the head is busy tracking between the 2 paritions.
[01:14] <hazard> There's another package though, smbmount or smbfs or something like that
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: so 750G eh? how will you ever live with such constraints? :p
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> !smbfs
[01:15] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB
[01:15] <hazard> yup, that'd be the one I'm thinking of :P
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> you need smbfs to mount samba shares.
[01:15] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: give me two months :p
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> smbclient is sufficient for browsing them, but to actually mount them you need smbfs.
[01:16] <hazard> I hate SDL. There's nothing 'simple' or 'direct' about getting it to work.
[01:16] <hazard> (there are however, many layers of sanity)
[01:16] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i already have two 300GB disks, but the system does not boot when i put those two on SATA2 and SATA2 ports on motherbord. Two disks seems to be the max
[01:16] <murph> i seem to have edited my xorg.conf and now it boots to a blank screen .. no consoles either :/
[01:17] <murph> help?
[01:17] <goodthing> *SATA2 and SATA3
[01:17] <murph> i'm booted off the install cd atm
[01:17] <lombra_> good night
[01:17] <hazard> maybe one of the drives is setup wrong for the satacontroller?
[01:17] <BluesKaj> murph, no prompt?
[01:17] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: all is done now
[01:17] <murph> rescue option broken as well
[01:17] <murph> it boots then nada
[01:18] <hazard> do you remember what you changed?
[01:18] <murph> yes
[01:18] <murph> but i can't seem to get to the file
[01:18] <hazard> so..why don't you unchange it?
[01:18] <murph> ^
[01:18] <hazard> did you mount the drive?
[01:18] <murph> nope
[01:18] <hazard> that would pose a problem wouldn't it?
[01:18] <murph> not sure how to
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: hehe, playing with my dog with the laser pointer to pass time :)
[01:19] <hazard> mkdir /tmp/hda && mount /dev/hda[x]  (where [x]  is the root partiton of your drive, probably either a 1 or a 2, might be a 3 thouh)
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: okay, now change /etc/fstab file so /media/sda1 is /home
[01:19] <murph> tnx hazard :)
[01:19] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: yeah, can i do that without umounting the location?
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: sudo nano /etc/fstab or kdesu kate /etc/fstab if you prefer a gui.
[01:20] <bgsteffens> hazard: it works, i love you;P
[01:20] <Cheza-chan> so is it a problem if network settings lists wlon0 as a 'wired connection'?
[01:20] <goodthing> nope, vim for me, kate tends to wipe the wipe...
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yes, that won't mount it yet, just tells it that it should be mounted there next time.
[01:20] <Cheza-chan> wlan*
[01:20] <goodthing> *file
[01:20] <goodthing> LeeJunFan:  ok
[01:20] <hazard> good bgsteffens, if you might be interesetd in setting up autofs to do it for you (so you don't need to sudo if you want to use it again)
[01:21] <hazard> Cheza-chan: I woudln't think so...
[01:21] <bgsteffens> hazard: ok thank you
[01:21] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: done. What's next? :)
[01:21] <natic`kubuntu> i can't find the package compiz-kde
[01:21] <natic`kubuntu> i have activated the ubuntu backports
[01:21] <natic`kubuntu> but i still can't find it
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: make sure /media/sda1 looks like your /home - ie. make sure you see your users home dir /media/sda1 and it looks like everything is there okay.
[01:22] <Perseid> Hi all. I'm trying to get grub to boot Windows XP with no success. It says it's an unknown partition, lists the boot commands and locks up.
[01:22] <hazard> windows or grub?
[01:22] <natic`kubuntu> you need a chainloader
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: /media/sda1 should not have a dir named home in it, but should have your username dir in it.
[01:22] <murph> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /tmp/hda && mount /dev/hda3
[01:22] <murph> mount: can't find /dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> among any other users you've added.
[01:22] <murph> 
[01:23] <murph> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /tmp/hda && mount /dev/hda3
[01:23] <murph> mount: can't find /dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:23] <murph> sorry
[01:23] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: roger, it contains my weird username
[01:23] <hazard> murph....oh right.
[01:23] <Perseid> root (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 are the 3 lines in menu.lst
[01:23] <misael> how do i run a .bin file? what do i write in the konsole?
[01:23] <hazard> try the same thing but without the number at the end
[01:23] <LjL> misael: ./filename - you might need to "chmod +x" it (i.e. make it executable)
[01:23] <Cheza-chan> misael ./<file>
[01:24] <LjL> misael: perhaps you could find a proper package instead of the .bin, though?
[01:24] <hazard> OH, WAIT, no I'm just stupid,
[01:24] <Perseid> hazard: You mean me? chainloader not chainloader +1?
[01:24] <unix_infidel> uhhh, arent .bin .cue pairs images?
[01:24] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: okay, next time you reboot it should mount sda1 as /home. however at the moment your sda2 still has all that crap you just copied, so now that we've verified sda1 has your stuff in it we need to remove it from your current /home
[01:24] <hazard> I was talking to murph
[01:24] <murph> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda
[01:24] <murph> mount: can't find /dev/hda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:24] <Perseid> ok. heh. :)
[01:24] <LjL> unix_infidel: yeah, can also be that...
[01:24] <natic`kubuntu> misael: bin files are images of cds or dvds
[01:24] <hazard> murph: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$mkdir /tmp/hda && sudo mount /dev/hda3 /tmp/hda
[01:25] <natic`kubuntu> vlc playes them, if it is an image of a video cd, misael
[01:25] <unix_infidel> i've never encountered a .bin file that's a executable binary in nix.
[01:25] <hazard> murph: the 'hda3' there might be 'hda1' or 'hda2' though
[01:25] <murph> hazard: right
[01:25] <LjL> unix_infidel: i assure you there are quite a few
[01:25] <murph> no its 3
[01:25] <BluesKaj> natic`kubuntu, compiz-freedesktop-kde
[01:25] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i think i have a talent to remove files lying around somewhere, should be no hassle
[01:25] <hazard> oh ok
[01:25] <unix_infidel> actually, i take that back.
[01:25] <hazard> did you actually have the /tmp/hda at the end?
[01:25] <natic`kubuntu> BluesKaj: i'll try
[01:25] <LjL> unix_infidel: at least judging from the number of time the "how do i run a .bin" question is asked
[01:25] <hazard> so it tries to mount it in the right place?
[01:25] <LjL> (and no, they don't usually mean a CD image)
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: problem is you are logged into that user at the moment and are using your existing /home files.
[01:25] <unix_infidel> LjL: i've never seen any except for a few choice programs....
[01:25] <natic`kubuntu> there is no such thing
[01:25] <BluesKaj> natic`kubuntu, it's in adept
[01:26] <natic`kubuntu> not in synaptic?
[01:26] <BluesKaj> dunno
[01:26] <LjL> unix_infidel: some games, some video card drivers, and generally quite a few proprietary programs.
[01:26] <BluesKaj> din't check
[01:26] <hazard> murph?
[01:26] <LjL> the .bin's are more often than not installers
[01:26] <murph> mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /tmp/hda busy
[01:26] <unix_infidel> LjL: yea, i've only dealt with the last of the three you mentioned.
[01:27] <hazard> murph: type 'mount' and see what it says
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: I think your easiest way is going to be to cd to /home, and sudo rm -rf *, then reboot. After you rm everything in your /home things will likely get a little wierd, so you may have to issue sudo reboot from the konsole you are in.
[01:27] <BluesKaj> natic`kubuntu, yup try synaptic
[01:27] <hazard> if there's something mounted to /tmp/hda then its mounted already
[01:27] <natic`kubuntu> BluesKaj: it is neither in synaptic nor in adept
[01:27] <natic`kubuntu> how else? they use the same repos
[01:27] <hazard> (though I don't kknow if it would have done so rw, it might be readonly)
[01:27] <natic`kubuntu> kay, then tell me how do i install gnome?
[01:28] <murph> hazard: it's not mounted
[01:28] <hazard> what's telling you that?
[01:28] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i know it sounds not like linux, but isn't rebooting safer here?
[01:28] <goodthing> just asking
[01:28] <BluesKaj> sorry to hear that , natic`kubuntu, maybe I have a few more repos than most :)
[01:28] <murph> shall i print it here? its like 10 lines
[01:28] <natic`kubuntu> gimme them :) i want to run that xgl thing
[01:29] <natic`kubuntu> using edgy
[01:29] <hazard> people don't like that.
[01:29] <alexicon> dhcp will not work with my wifi, anyone else have this problem
[01:29] <murph> but is not on the list..
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yes, I think you should reboot after you remove the files.
[01:29] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: hat router?
[01:29] <hazard> what list?
[01:29] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: after, ok, not before
[01:29] <alexicon> route is a linksys, connecting on a vaio sz
[01:29] <BluesKaj> well, it needs to be edited ..there are some dupes , i think , but I'll pastebin it if ya like
[01:30] <alexicon> it works in suse and in windows fine
[01:30] <Cheza-chan> alexicon im having a similar problem though im not sure its dhcp causing my prob
[01:30] <murph> mount
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: right, if you do it before you'll be removing everything you just copied, as sda1 will be on /home
[01:30] <natic`kubuntu> linksys should work fine with everything (=
[01:30] <alexicon> the card is all configured and recognised
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: I mean - if you do it after. hehe
[01:30] <alexicon> i can see networks
[01:30] <alexicon> but not connect to anything
[01:30] <alexicon> i dont get an ip
[01:30] <natic`kubuntu> hmmm
[01:30] <natic`kubuntu> wifi is always... a little bitchy
[01:30] <Cheza-chan> yes it is. lol
[01:30] <alexicon> ive had great luck with wifi until edgy
[01:31] <alexicon> it worked fine for me in dapper and in all the other distros ive tried on my laptop
[01:31] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: what i can't get is why the installation did not put the files there, as i asked it to so
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> bitchy with linux... for damn windows all works fine
[01:31] <alexicon> suse is excellent
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> yep
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> i like suse myself
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> :
[01:31] <alexicon> too bad their package management sucks which is why i want to use kubuntu
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> ever tried smart?
[01:31] <Cheza-chan> i dont get why my computer all of a sudden thinks my wifi card is a wired card. it shows up on ifconfig and not iwconfig
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> this yum thing is crap
[01:31] <alexicon> yeah i didnt have much luck with it
[01:31] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: I dunno. if you defined sda1 as /home it SHOULD have done just what you wanted. I do it that way all the time.
[01:31] <alexicon> the repositories are crap is the problem
[01:31] <hazard> I don't like GUIs, I usually break them anyway.
[01:31] <alexicon> i like all the little libs that deb has
[01:32] <natic`kubuntu> i must admit, smart is still much slower then adept or synaptic
[01:32] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: so, rm, reboot, should be all good.
[01:32] <natic`kubuntu> ist it because of the deb packages?
[01:32] <alexicon> apt4rpm didnt work well for me
[01:32] <natic`kubuntu> i got smart up and running
[01:32] <alexicon> i need stuff like libnet-irc-ruby, libao-ruby blahblah
[01:32] <natic`kubuntu> but it is too slooooooooooow
[01:32] <alexicon> lots of development stuff
[01:32] <alexicon> its easy to find on kubuntu
[01:32] <alexicon> i cant be arsed with rpms
[01:32] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: ok, let's try, i have a spare computer next to me so be aware i can come back here ;)
[01:33] <alexicon> its so last century :P
[01:33] <natic`kubuntu> yeah, kubuntu gives you the repos
[01:33] <tijoe> alexicon: I have KNetworkManager on mine and it recognises my cards. Don't know if that'll help you
[01:33] <alexicon> my card is recognised already
[01:33] <alexicon> and configured
[01:33] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: thanks for help, doing command in a few
[01:33] <bgsteffens> what is the console command for rename file?
[01:33] <alexicon> i just cant connect :/
[01:33] <alexicon> bgsteffens: mv
[01:33] <bgsteffens> ty
[01:33] <alexicon> you move it to a new filename
[01:33] <robotgeek> bgsteffens: strange, but true :)
[01:33] <alexicon> np
[01:33] <BluesKaj> natic`kubuntu, PM !
[01:33] <natic`kubuntu> BluesKaj: won't work...
[01:33] <murph> hazard: thanks i have it mounted now
[01:33] <natic`kubuntu> try a querry
[01:34] <hazard> welcome
[01:34] <hazard> murph: is it read-write?
[01:34] <natic`kubuntu> but BluesKaj! i want compiz, not beryl
[01:34] <hazard> I don't remember what the default is if you don't specifiy it to be rw or ro
[01:35] <BluesKaj> that's where it is
[01:35] <murph> well i just wim'd the xorg.conf
[01:35] <murph> vim'd
[01:35] <hazard> and it saved?
[01:35] <murph> yup
[01:35] <hazard> guess it was rw then
[01:35] <murph> now to reboot, cross your fingers
[01:35] <hazard> (or its lying)
[01:35] <alexicon> !pastebin
[01:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:35] <hazard> goodluck
[01:35] <murph> thanks:)
[01:36] <alexicon> this is what happens when dhcp tries to connect  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37842/
[01:37] <NamShub> (965 upgraded, 30 newly installed, 3 to remove and 7 not upgraded.)
[01:40] <alexicon> someone was tyring to tell me yesterday that you HAVE to reboot in order to change what wifi network you are on
[01:40] <lbb_> does anyone know the unhide command in grub, there is nobody on #grub
[01:40] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: seems it went well, /media/home/ seems to contain more files than /home/username though
[01:41] <hazard> well, that was stupid, of all the things I've tried to get SDL to build, trying the unstable source wasn't one of them.
[01:41] <goodthing> */media/home/username
[01:41] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: what does ifstatus eth1 says?
[01:41] <natic`kubuntu> are you sure, you called your wlan "eth1"?
[01:42] <goodthing> 8 files less
[01:42] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: gimme the output of the "sudo ifstatus eth1"
[01:42] <Cheza-chan> hmm the plot thickens it seems that wlan0 doesnt even have a hwaddress set
[01:42] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: into pastebin, of course... i am out for a cigarette, be right back
[01:43] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: anything i should do now?
[01:44] <lbb_> does anyone know how to unhide a partition using a kubuntu live-cd?
[01:45] <lbb_> I only know how to do it in grub (that's how I hid it in the first place)
[01:45] <lbb_> but that doesn't work
[01:47] <alexicon> natic`kubuntu: i dont have ifstatus
[01:47] <alexicon> do you know what packages it is from?
[01:47] <lbb_> can anyone read this? I'm new to irc...
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: it shouldn't. Actually there shouldn't be a /media/home. heh
[01:48] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: well, there is
[01:48] <coreymon77> hey guys
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: I guess, there is on mine after all.
[01:48] <coreymon77> ive managed to convert 2 people in the past 4 days!
[01:48] <BluesKaj> hey coreymon77
[01:49] <murph> :D
[01:49] <natic`kubuntu> theres no ifstatus on edgy?
[01:49] <lbb_> coreymon: DRM??
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> coreymon77: convert?
[01:50] <coreymon77> to linux
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> wow
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> why?
[01:50] <alexicon> natic`kubuntu: dunno, i just dont seem to have it
[01:50] <alexicon> and adept just crashed lol
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> me too
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> coreymon77: what was their main reasons for their willingness to go linux?
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> suse has ifstatus
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> very useful
[01:51] <alexicon> yeah
[01:51] <alexicon> i see a package for ifstat
[01:51] <coreymon77> me giving them cds
[01:51] <coreymon77> and our doxe computers at school being crap
[01:51] <natic`kubuntu> but why do they use it?
[01:51] <natic`kubuntu> why use linux anyway?
[01:51] <Chani> I'm about to attempt a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy, but I'm a little concerned about the changes apt wants to make. it's saying it'll remove things like kubuntu-desktop and linux-kernel-headers. should I be worried?
[01:51] <natic`kubuntu> Chani: no risk, no fun
[01:52] <alexicon> why use linux? cos youre sick of viruses, worms, adware and spyware and a bloat os that runs too slow
[01:52] <alexicon> ^^
[01:52] <Chani> I've done a backup, of course, but I'd prefer it if I didn't have to use it.
[01:52] <lbb_> coreymon77 People seem very willing to convert if you tell them BG will decide if you can open your files soon
[01:52] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: my windows runs without viruses, spywares and equal stuff
[01:52] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: u have to know how to use windows
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> BS
[01:52] <alexicon> true natic`kubuntu
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> yeah, keep it offline.
[01:52] <alexicon> but most people dont really know how
[01:52] <alexicon> lol LeeJunFan
[01:53] <natic`kubuntu> and i am online with it :
[01:53] <alexicon> and for the people who dont know how, linux ubuntu is perfect for htem
[01:53] <alexicon> apart from this bloody wifi hassle
[01:53] <Perseid> I have never had a virus on XP in 5 years.
[01:53] <natic`kubuntu> aw, ubuntu is not convincing to me
[01:53] <alexicon> me either really
[01:53] <alexicon> ive installed it for loads of people tho
[01:53] <alexicon> and its been ok
[01:53] <alexicon> but on the laptop its hassle
[01:53] <natic`kubuntu> RIGHT
[01:53] <alexicon> i cant believe suse is working better than it
[01:53] <natic`kubuntu> <-- dell laptop
[01:54] <natic`kubuntu> suse was the only one who worked with my laptop out of the box
[01:54] <alexicon> used to have quite a lot of faith in *ubuntu
[01:54] <alexicon> must have done at least 5-6 installs over the summer, but edgy has been too buggy
[01:54] <natic`kubuntu> but my suse installation is pretty slow...
[01:54] <alexicon> way too buggy...
[01:54] <LeeJunFan> there's your problem, dell uses the cheapest chipset crap they can get their hands on at any given moment, likely chipsets that have no linux support.
[01:54] <alexicon> dell is pretty bog standard
[01:54] <natic`kubuntu> aaaaw
[01:54] <alexicon> its been fine for linux really
[01:54] <natic`kubuntu> therefore, i have an insurance against stupidity for 3 years
[01:54] <alexicon> so many people have dell its likely to be more supported, or at least easier to find support for
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> broadcom chipsets and the such are not quality.
[01:55] <Chani> is there anyone here that has experience with apt-get?
[01:55] <natic`kubuntu> i can take a cup of coffee and split it over my laptop, and i'll get a new one a week later
[01:55] <natic`kubuntu> delivered to my place
[01:55] <lbb_> chani: a litle...
[01:55] <alexicon> but this is rather irrelevant
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> My company bought 6 dell inspirons some time back, 5 of them didn't last long enough to get the coffee hot enough to spill on them.
[01:56] <Chani> lbb_: see my earlier question
[01:56] <alexicon> ive used linux since 2001, and gentoo for most of that time, i switched to *ubuntu cos its supposed to be less of a headache :P
[01:56] <alexicon> anyone know whats up with these wifi connections?
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> nope
[01:56] <alexicon> mrrrrr
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> i did a few more installation during this summer
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> 10-20
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> of suse...
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> and sometimes it worked, and sometimes it did not
[01:56] <alexicon> did about 5-6 of kubuntu dapper that all went as planned
[01:56] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: what chipset is your wifi?
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> sometimes it worked with knetwork manager, sometimes only over ifup
[01:57] <Chani> alexicon: heh, I switched 'cause I didn't have time to maintain gentoo. I'd forgotten about the dist-upgrade nightmare
[01:57] <alexicon> 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[01:57] <alexicon> yeah Chani heh
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> !wifi
[01:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:57] <alexicon> dist-upgrade, i dont bother, i just do a fresh install
[01:57] <alexicon> yeah LeeJunFan ive read that all bloody day
[01:57] <alexicon> and it doesnt have anything useful
[01:57] <natic`kubuntu> goddammit, why did not anybody tell me, that the gnome installation requieres some action?
[01:57] <alexicon> my card works
[01:57] <alexicon> i just cant connect
[01:57] <jontec> can anyone tell me why my sound doesn't work? The controls built in to my laptop work fine... it mutes and raises and lowers the volume of my sound, but I don't get any sound T_T I am on a amd64 Gateway MX6446 running kubuntu edgy
[01:57] <Chani> it'd be nice if there was someone to talk to about this stuff.
[01:58] <alexicon> chani heres the place :P
[01:58] <Chani> alexicon: apparently not
[01:58] <natic`kubuntu> jontec: i had this problem, because my pcm was turned off for any reason
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: crap, I don't know about that chipset. I do madwifi atheros all the time.
[01:58] <natic`kubuntu> is there any mini-pci card out there, able to manage wifi AND bluetooth?
[01:58] <alexicon> its ok LeeJunFan its nowt to do with the chipset tho. i cant get an ip is the problem
[01:58] <Chani> alexicon: one person has "a litle" experience with apt-get. nobody answered my dist-upgrade question
[01:58] <Cheza-chan> does someone know why edgy isnt assigning a hwaddress to wlan0?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> so i ran sudo -s or some silly command like that, now anything sudo gives me an error
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: but iwconfig shows you the info for the card?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> any ideas?
[01:59] <alexicon> yep LeeJunFan
[01:59] <alexicon> shows everything
[01:59] <natic`kubuntu> "some silly command"
[01:59] <alexicon> even the key
[01:59] <jontec> natic'kubuntu: it's not that :D in kmix everything's turned all the way up... T_T
[01:59] <natic`kubuntu> hm
[01:59] <jontec> natic`kubuntu: it's not that :D in kmix everything's turned all the way up... T_T
[01:59] <natic`kubuntu> i don't know
[01:59] <robotgeek> jontec: try changing keyboard layout , edgy or dapper?
[01:59] <alexicon> says im on the essid, but wont gimme an ip
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: dhclient [device]  won't get you an IP via dhcp?
[01:59] <alexicon> !dist-upgrade >> Chani
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> natic`kubuntu: well it saw something like sudo -s
[01:59] <alexicon> nope LeeJunFan it fails
[02:00] <drkm> I just installed KDevelop but it didn't seem to make any short cuts on my program menu??
[02:00] <jontec> robotgeek: how will that help? edgy... I just upgraded... but it didn't work before on dapper
[02:00] <alexicon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37842/ LeeJunFan
[02:00] <natic`kubuntu> why are you using sudo -s?
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> can't remember it off the top of my head
[02:00] <alexicon> thats what i get with dhclient
[02:00] <natic`kubuntu> stop it... :P
[02:00] <alexicon> !dist-update
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <alexicon> stupid
[02:00] <LjL> !upgrade
[02:00] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: crp, gotta run. if you're on later while I'm on I'll see if I can help you out.
[02:00] <jontec> alexicon: dist-upgrade isn't a package :D
[02:00] <alexicon> cheers LeeJunFan
[02:01] <robotgeek> jontec: oh sorry, i misunderstood.
[02:01] <alexicon> its not my issue jontec its someone else
[02:01] <Chani> I'm about to attempt a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy, but I'm a little concerned about the changes apt wants to make. it's saying it'll remove things like kubuntu-desktop and linux-kernel-headers. should I be worried?
[02:01] <lbb_> drkm: do you know how to do it manually?
[02:01] <robotgeek> jontec: your sound doesn't work? or what exactly is the issue?
[02:01] <alexicon> no chani its no worry
[02:01] <natic`kubuntu> Chani: it should work fine
[02:01] <alexicon> its safe
[02:02] <Chani> ok
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> hey, folks...
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> i start the adept manager
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> search for "gnome"
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> install gnome
[02:02] <jontec> robotgeek: kubuntu resopnds to my laptop's integrated sound buttons fine, but the sound just doesn't work. I was trying to play a .ogg and I got no sound. It has never worked... it didn't work on dapper
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> with all other things it requires
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> and now? should it work after ctrl-alt-backspace?
[02:02] <jontec> robotgeek: I have sound turned all the way up in kmix and sound turned all the way up with my notebook buttons
[02:03] <alexicon> yeah natic`kubuntu you gotta choose it from the menu
[02:03] <alexicon> as you are logging in
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> great
[02:03] <alexicon> :)
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> never got this far with suse :
[02:03] <alexicon> lol
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> GODDAMMIT
[02:03] <drkm> llb: I can run it by running KDevelop from 'Run'.. but I installed the multi-programming-language one.. wasn't sure if that was all in the 1 program, or it installed multiple programs?
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> i need to adjust my keyboard layout...
[02:03] <robotgeek> jontec: hmm, interesting. is the correct channel/device selected in kmix preferences
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> i cant make brackets for smileys
[02:03] <alexicon> same natic`kubuntu heh ive got a jap kb, and in english i dont have winslash or pipe
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> i used to have
[02:03] <alexicon> cant remember where i stored the map
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> then i had to reconfigure x
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> and now...
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> stupid installation guide... asking me if i want to use a 102 key-keyboard or something else
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> do they expect me to count the keys?!
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> -.-
[02:04] <notech> heaven forbid it offer choices
[02:04] <lbb_> drmk i don't know kdevelop, but once you run it you should see if it supports more than one language
[02:05] <jontec> robotgeek: you mean as in master channel and pcm? I tried switching them.... (I only have pcm and master) but no change
[02:05] <Chani> jontec: are you in the group that has permission to use the sound card?
[02:05] <LjL> natic`kubuntu, you could just have press Enter at the default (which happened to be the previous setting that you had in xorg.conf)
[02:05] <LjL> aka "audio"
[02:05] <natic`kubuntu> i did
[02:05] <crimsun_> jontec: which sound card?
[02:06] <jontec> Chani: it's listed in my user.... if I wasn't in the group... then it'd have an x over the kmix icon, correct?
[02:06] <sedat> how can I set default view as "detailed list view" permanently in konquerer
[02:06] <jontec> crimsun_: I have no idea... I'd have to log onto windows to find out I think
[02:06] <alexicon> mmm ThePub
[02:06] <robotgeek> jontec: lspci -v
[02:06] <crimsun_> jontec: asoundconf list
[02:06] <robotgeek> heh, better :)
[02:06] <ThePub> tasty and cold-filtered :)
[02:06] <lbb_> sedat: isn't it in the prefs?
[02:06] <alexicon> heh
[02:06] <notech> jontec: lscpi -vv | grep -i audio
[02:07] <sedat> lbb_: when I canged it
[02:07] <notech> i've seen where asoundconf didn't list it, or correctly
[02:07] <sedat> it changes back again
[02:08] <crimsun_> notech: that's the entire point.
[02:08] <sedat> lbb_: what do you mean by prefs
[02:08] <crimsun_> notech: if it doesn't return anything, we know something additional
[02:08] <lbb_> sedat: prefferences
[02:08] <natic`kubuntu> so
[02:08] <jontec> notech, crimsun_, robotgeek: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
[02:08] <natic`kubuntu> i'll try gnome now...
[02:08] <notech> k, just thought it might be nice to see what it actually was first :)
[02:08] <natic`kubuntu> brb
[02:09] <crimsun_> jontec: lsmod |grep ^snd_atiixp
[02:09] <sedat> lbb_: where is preferences
[02:09] <jontec> crimsun_: I got nothing back from that.... was I supposed to?
[02:09] <natic`kubuntu> kay thats my gnome
[02:09] <natic`kubuntu> neato
[02:10] <crimsun_> jontec: what was returned from ``asoundconf list''?
[02:10] <natic`kubuntu> some mac fetish
[02:10] <Perseid> in grub what's the difference between root and rootnoverify?
[02:10] <jontec> crimsun_: SB
[02:11] <natic`kubuntu> xgl, i am coming
[02:11] <crimsun_> jontec: and the output from amixer?
[02:11] <crimsun_> jontec: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:11] <sedat> lbb_: where can I change preferences
[02:11] <lbb_> sedat: sorry its called settings ->configure konqueror
[02:12] <jontec> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37848/
[02:12] <sedat> lbb_: I couldn't find such a settings in there,
[02:12] <crimsun_> jontec: cat /proc/asound/modules
[02:14] <jontec> crimsun_:  0 snd_hda_intel
[02:14] <alexicon> LOL i like how firefox is described as "lightweight" still
[02:14] <crimsun_> jontec: ah, you need to try alsa-driver-1.0.14rc1
[02:15] <jontec> crimsun_: hehe... that's weird that it even said intel... I have an amd64
[02:15] <jontec> crimsun_:how?
[02:15] <lbb_> sedat: try configure view profiles
[02:15] <crimsun_> jontec: download alsa-driver from www.alsa-project.org
[02:16] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i have reverted /media/home to /media/sda1 again, but i do not get why /home/username gives me less files than /media/sda1
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> eeeeeeeeeeeeew
[02:16] <goodthing> that's weird
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> my firefox icon is so ugly
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> some globe...
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> eeeeeeeeeeeeew
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> howto change it into the orange cute fox?
[02:17] <sedat> lbb_: thanks I just realized that
[02:17] <lbb_> natic: rightclick it and go to configure
[02:17] <jontec> crimsun_: the development release?
[02:17] <crimsun_> jontec: yes.
[02:18] <jontec> crimsun_: so what's this do?
[02:18] <crimsun_> jontec: you need to install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) next
[02:18] <crimsun_> jontec: you need newer drivers.
[02:20] <jontec> okay... is "linux-headers-$(uname -r) next" a command? where do I run it? anywhere?
[02:21] <crimsun_> use adept/aptitude/apt-get to install `build-essential' and `linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[02:22] <lbb_> anyone know how to unhide a partition, it is hidden by hide(hd0,1) in grub, but unhide(hd0,1) gives me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[02:23] <matthew> Is the guy who was named townyc here?
[02:23] <matthew> I was helping him w/ his xorg.conf
[02:23] <bgsteffens> anybody know anything about zlib?
[02:25] <matthew> lbb_, maybe try show
[02:25] <goodthing> anyone knows if perpendicular hard disks are a problem under linux?
[02:25] <matthew> goodthing, no problem
[02:26] <matthew> goodthing, it is transparent to the operating system
[02:26] <lbb_> matthew: bash: show: command not found
[02:26] <sedat> lbb_: how can I set my profile as default profile :)
[02:26] <matthew> lbb_, I wasn't sure, just try some synonyms of that
[02:26] <goodthing> matthew: hmm, ok, but my system does not boot with it when i put two other disk in it so there must be some bug
[02:27] <matthew> goodthing, hmmm, that doesn't make sense, because perpendicular refers to the orientation of magnetic particles
[02:27] <goodthing> bad thing is that i have no third spare sata disk lying around to test that
[02:27] <matthew> magnetically charged particles, at least
[02:27] <jontec> crimsun_: but I don't understand what I do with this .tar.gz file that I'm downloading?
[02:28] <jontec> .tar.bz2*
[02:28] <crimsun_> jontec: do you have those packages installed yet?
[02:28] <matthew> goodthing, I should think it's just a coincidence
[02:28] <goodthing> matthew: i know, but it also does not makes sense that the /dev/sda and /dev/sdc are getting switched when i put three disks in my system
[02:28] <jontec> crimsun_: no, I am downloading the file... (I have dial-up so I have to do one at a time)
[02:28] <lbb_> sedat I dont know actually
[02:28] <matthew> goodthing, hmmm, I really have no idea...sorry
[02:29] <bgsteffens> is there something like the ms-dos batch file for linux?
[02:29] <crimsun_> jontec: you have to compile newer drivers yourself, which is the process through which I'm talking yoe
[02:29] <alexicon> bash script bgsteffens
[02:29] <crimsun_> you
[02:29] <bgsteffens> ty
[02:30] <matthew> bgsteffens, bash
[02:30] <matthew> just so you know...lol
[02:30] <hazard> goodthing: your bios might actually be detecting the drives in a diffrent order when you have more of them, giving the order to linux (since it will see the drives in the order the bios does to assign letters anyway)
[02:31] <alexicon> anyone have tips for installing the nvidia-glx drivers??
[02:31] <hazard> sell your soul?
[02:31] <alexicon> heh
[02:31] <hazard> I've *HEARD* its easier than getting GL support on an ATI card, but beyond that not really.
[02:31] <coreymon77> guys
[02:31] <hazard> (I know i've gotten it to work once or twice)
[02:31] <coreymon77> my frend sis trying ot instyall kubuntu
[02:32] <coreymon77> and he needs to resize his partition
[02:32] <jontec> crimsun_: it's gonna be 4MB download for the build-essential package... that's gonna be about 15-20 minutes T_T
[02:32] <bgsteffens> matthew: how do i name a bash script and then how do i run it?
[02:32] <matthew> coreymon77, I can help
[02:32] <coreymon77> how should he do it
[02:32] <alexicon> "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". always fails for me
[02:32] <alexicon> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[02:32] <alexicon> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[02:32] <alexicon> but it says its installed
[02:32] <coreymon77> hes using qtparted to resiize the ntfs partition
[02:32] <alexicon> !nvidia
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <goodthing> hazard: so... me thinking loud: there is no way to get three disks to work for me
[02:32] <matthew> bgsteffens, I think you put this in the first line : #!bash
[02:32] <hazard> bgsteffens: have you written the script already
[02:32] <matthew> bgsteffens, not sure though
[02:32] <hazard> ?
[02:32] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, nano ~/myfirstscript
[02:32] <matthew> coreymon77, I can help you if you'd like
[02:32] <coreymon77> but we dont knwo how much to leave off for linux
[02:33] <alexicon> bgsteffens: name it anything just run it iwth ./bashscriptname
[02:33] <matthew> coreymon77, are you dual-booting?
[02:33] <hazard> goodthing: I know for a fact you can get more than 3 drives working ( have machines with as many as 14 harddrives which all work fine)
[02:33] <alexicon> make sure you have the permission right
[02:33] <bgsteffens> alexicon ok thanks
[02:33] <alexicon> chmod +x bashscript
[02:33] <alexicon> so you can execute it
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> oka
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> okay
[02:33] <murchadh_bhaba> Type echo "hello bgsteffens!"
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> i got xgl up and running
[02:33] <hazard> bgsteffens: do what alexicon says
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> and now? how do i get this cool cube effects?
[02:33] <alexicon> really natic`kubuntu!
[02:33] <matthew> coreymon77, do you have Windows XP on another partition?
[02:33] <alexicon> beryl natic`kubuntu
[02:33] <goodthing> hazard: i dunno, i am just guessing here
[02:33] <coreymon77> he does
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> compiz
[02:34] <alexicon> howd you get it working natic`kubuntu are you using nvidia?
[02:34] <hazard> goodthing: what's your hardware setup?
[02:34] <natic`kubuntu> yep, nvidia
[02:34] <matthew> coreymon77, How big is the hard drive?
[02:34] <alexicon> mrrr
[02:34] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, ctrl^o, enter, ctrl^x
[02:34] <coreymon77> 250
[02:34] <coreymon77> gigs
[02:34] <alexicon> your nvidia-glx just worked natic`kubuntu?
[02:34] <natic`kubuntu> don't remember...
[02:34] <alexicon> :P
[02:34] <matthew> coreymon77, Why not just split it in half? Don't forget to make a swap partition!
[02:34] <natic`kubuntu> i guess, i had to use this alternative thing
[02:34] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, chmod +x ~/myfirstscript
[02:34] <alexicon> what alternative thing?
[02:34] <natic`kubuntu> but now, on xgl, my fonts are so small ^
[02:34] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, ~/myfirstscript
[02:34] <bgsteffens> hazard: got it :) .. 'nano b'... #!/bin/bash \n echo hi ... chmod +x b ... ./b
[02:35] <alexicon> ~/ will only work if the script is in your home dir
[02:35] <natic`kubuntu> i can hardly see something
[02:35] <coreymon77> how bigshould the swap be
[02:35] <alexicon> 512-1gb
[02:35] <hazard> my experience has indicated that mesa pretty transparently came in when needed, I dunno if it'd to the window server if the card couldn't on its own
[02:35] <alexicon> or more if uyou want coreymon77
[02:35] <alexicon> i use 1gb
[02:35] <natic`kubuntu> there are nvidia-glx, alexicon and something alternative, don't remember
[02:35] <alexicon> alternative? tell meeeee :P
[02:36] <natic`kubuntu> i've never seen my swap partition in use -.-
[02:36] <alexicon> ive got nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-glx and kernel restricted modules
[02:36] <hazard> there's the nvidia binary drivers, and then some open source ones
[02:36] <hazard> there's also the ati ones, and the old mamed ati open souce drivers.
[02:36] <alexicon> swap goes to use when you dont use a program for a while
[02:36] <alexicon> it switches out of proper memory onto harddisk
[02:36] <hazard> either way, the ati drivers for linux suck (from what I've heard)
[02:36] <natic`kubuntu> i am running an xgl session right now...
[02:36] <natic`kubuntu> but how do i use the cuuuube?!
[02:36] <natic`kubuntu> :)
[02:36] <alexicon> whenever an app lags when you havent used it a while its cos of swap
[02:36] <goodthing> hazard: motherboard: asus a8n sli deluxe with a nforce 4 chip (SATA-II), one seagate barracuda 750GB (just bought and put on the first SATA port of motherboard), two maxtor diamondmax plus 10 300GB (second and third port). The system only boots with two connectors in use, three is a problem.
[02:37] <alexicon> natic`kubuntu: did you add a repo to get nvidia working???
[02:37] <alexicon> apart from uni/multiverse that is
[02:37] <natic`kubuntu> nope, alexicon
[02:37] <alexicon> hrm
[02:37] <hazard> goodthing: that board has an onboard RAID controller (I'd think), you're sure it isn't trying to autoconfigure the towo 300s into a mirror 300 or stripe 600?
[02:37] <alexicon> i dont get why it doesnt work for me
[02:37] <natic`kubuntu> hm
[02:37] <natic`kubuntu> how the hack do i use this cube effect?
[02:37] <natic`kubuntu> whats the shortcut?
[02:38] <hazard> goodthing: and which drive is it PRESENTLY booting off of (if any?), also it may be interesting to see what the bios thinks it should be booting from.
[02:38] <murchadh_bhaba> natic`kubuntu, Can you see the red beryl icon in the system tray?
[02:38] <coreymon77> okay
[02:38] <alexicon> how can i be sure if the nvidia-kernel is running???
[02:38] <hazard> On my machine with 14 drives, its sometimes vauge as to which drive what bios thinkgs should be booting the system
[02:38] <alexicon> natic`kubuntu: do a uname -a for me plz
[02:38] <goodthing> hazard: correct, it has raid, but that is on the four red SATA connectors, not the black one. So i guess that would be no. (also, raid is disabled in BIOS)
[02:38] <natic`kubuntu> Linux Jenny 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:39] <alexicon> same as me then
[02:39] <alexicon> nrrr
[02:39] <coreymon77> okay guys
[02:39] <alexicon> okay coreymon77
[02:39] <coreymon77> now he has his dirve and his swap
[02:39] <natic`kubuntu> i don't know what a beryl is, murchadh_bhaba
[02:39] <natic`kubuntu> english is not my native languagepack :P
[02:39] <alexicon> beryl is a fancy compiz
[02:39] <hazard> goodthing: does linux have SATA be /dev/hd* or /dev/sd*?
[02:39] <goodthing> hazard: currently booting from the new drive, but that only works if i disconnect one of the maxtors
[02:39] <coreymon77> now
[02:39] <matthew> coreymon77, did that answer all your questions
[02:39] <matthew> ?
[02:39] <coreymon77> nope
[02:39] <alexicon> compiz is just transparency stuff? beryl does the cube?
[02:40] <alexicon> i think thats it
[02:40] <coreymon77> now for installing
[02:40] <alexicon> but not sure
[02:40] <goodthing> hazard: the
[02:40] <goodthing> oops
[02:40] <hazard> goodthing: what does the system post screen say?
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> kay... i don't see no tray icons anywhere... there is only the sound thing, the konversation thing, and the log out thing
[02:40] <hazard> (when all the drives are connected?)
[02:40] <murchadh_bhaba> natic`kubuntu, I had to install beryl and emerald to get the spinny cube thingy, beryl loads, does it's thing. Radeon 9250!
[02:40] <goodthing> hazard: the BIOS detects the disks in order i connect them afaik
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> okay
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> enough for today then
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> i'll go to sleep
[02:40] <coreymon77> matthew:
[02:40] <coreymon77> for partitioning
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> its about 3 am in germany right now
[02:41] <coreymon77> how should he do it
[02:41] <coreymon77> manually
[02:41] <hazard> well, that makes sense I guess, and the bios is set to boot from the first one?
[02:41] <coreymon77> in the installer
[02:41] <natic`kubuntu> see ya
[02:41] <alexicon> night natic`kubuntu
[02:41] <hazard> wait, did you say it would startup with two of them, or only the 750 alone?
[02:42] <matthew> coreymon77, so, you're set for partitions?
[02:42] <coreymon77> i dont know
[02:42] <coreymon77> matthew: i already have kubuntu installed and done
[02:42] <goodthing> hazard: there is no POST message, sometimes it comes with an usb error though
[02:42] <coreymon77> this is for my friend'
[02:42] <matthew> coreymon77, ok, ok, He should resize the NTFS partition
[02:42] <hazard> lol, USB for comic releif
[02:42] <coreymon77> matthew: hes already done resizing, now we are using the installer
[02:42] <hazard> so if all 3 drives are connected, it does nothing?
[02:42] <matthew> coreymon77, then with the remaining space, make a 1 gig swap partition and partition the rest to be ext3
[02:43] <coreymon77> weve done that
[02:43] <coreymon77> we did that all in qtparted
[02:43] <hazard> Just nothing? (which is diffrent from what I was thinking was going on)
[02:43] <coreymon77> matthew: now we are in the installer
[02:43] <matthew> coreymon77, so...ok...do need help w/ anything? (I'm so lost)
[02:43] <matthew> coreymon77, ok...what's the problem?
[02:43] <coreymon77> and we are in the manual partition tables window in the kubuntu installer
[02:43] <matthew> coreymon77, you need to select "manually edit partition scheme" or something like that
[02:44] <coreymon77> yes
[02:44] <coreymon77> and now on that window
[02:44] <hazard> because, if that's the case goodthing, then its a hardware conflict of some bizzare kind relating to the sata controller and the driver (likely similar to what happens with IDE when you have two drives with the same ID)
[02:44] <matthew> I would leave it as it is, if you have the partitions the way he wants them...
[02:44] <coreymon77> heres what it says
[02:44] <tomlins> anyone help me with Amarok ? It will play all media, CDs etc but not streaming audio :(
[02:44] <matthew> coreymon77, ok
[02:45] <matthew> coreymon77, ok, I'll go to the private chat area now...
[02:45] <goodthing> hazard: depends on which of the maxtors is at third sata connector, if i put the old disk with dapper on second SATA connector and the other maxtor on third SATA connector, edgy stalls at: "Waiting for root file system..."
[02:46] <goodthing> hazard: if i go the other way around, and swith the connectors of the two maxtors i get some weird error which i made a screenshot of
[02:46] <goodthing> (need to find it now...)
[02:46] <hazard> o.O
[02:47] <hazard> That brings back memories....
[02:47] <goodthing> hazard: http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7773/1000990fj6.jpg
[02:48] <goodthing> sorry about the quality, it's a bad camera, one trillion mili movement and all is streched
[02:48] <hazard> those are the USB errors?
[02:48] <tomlins> anyone help me with Amarok ? It will play all media, CDs etc but not streaming audio :(
[02:48] <hazard> They look pretty tpyical, I get all kinds of werid USB errors, and my system is fine.
[02:48] <hazard> but it never gets past there?
[02:49] <goodthing> hazard: nope, it just sits there but only with the disk exactly attached like that
[02:50] <hazard> goodthing: here's a crazy idea, what if you leave the 750 connected to the FIRST sata connector, then connected the two 300s to the RAID controller, and set it up to have them be standalone drives (it should let you do that)
[02:50] <goodthing> hazard: nope the other USB error is at the boot immediately but only returns rarely, i am forced to boot into an OS without a USB-keyboard to get around that error when that happens
[02:51] <goodthing> hazard: that is an error i already had on windows 1.5 years ago though
[02:51] <hazard> I have no idea what linux would do though
[02:52] <goodthing> hazard: me neiter, but there is data on those disks i cannot loose
[02:52] <hazard> anyway, I've gotta go get ready for a final, goodluck! (keep in mind its probably something bizzare and conflict-like, and so so simple)
[02:52] <goodthing> thanks for help hazard :)
[02:52] <hazard> oh, and lucky you for having 2x300G + one of those new 750s.
[02:53] <hazard> soz I couldn't be more helpful, later
[02:53] <Dark> makes me cry when I think of my 20gb hdd on laptop :(
[02:53] <goodthing> np, been helpfull to me
[02:54] <lbb_> tomlins: have you installed mp3 codecs?
[02:56] <mariano> hey guys, I am having trouble getting sound out of flash player. can someone help me, it is the last thing that I need to fully abandon windows
[02:57] <kristopher> Who would name a release anything resembling the hurd
[02:57] <crimsun_> mariano: use one of the backports
[02:57] <ubuntu> hey
[02:57] <mariano> what do I install, it says that flash player is already installed
[02:58] <crimsun_> mariano: lsb_release -r
[02:58] <lbb_> hi ubuntu
[02:59] <crimsun_> mariano: more than likely you need to enable -backports for whatever release you're using
[02:59] <mariano> 6.10
[02:59] <mariano> is what I get
[02:59] <crimsun_> right, you need edgy-backports
[02:59] <crimsun_> !backports |mariano
[02:59] <ubotu> mariano: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:59] <mariano> thanks
[02:59] <kristopher> anyways, thanks to whoever recommended EasyTAG yesterday
[03:00] <jontec> crimsun_: okay, it's done, so just run that command?
[03:00] <crimsun_> jontec: which command?
[03:00] <kristopher> although it has a mind of its own which i blame on gtk, it works well.
[03:00] <ubuntu> hey people , any one see me ??
[03:00] <murchadh_bhaba> Ubugtu, oh yeah.
[03:00] <jontec> crimsun_: "linux-headers-$(uname -r) next"
[03:01] <jontec> crimsun_: replace uname with my username?
[03:01] <crimsun_> jontec: no.
[03:01] <crimsun_> jontec: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:01] <lbb_> ununtu: what's the problem?
[03:01] <ubuntu> thank you
[03:03] <jontec> crimsun_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37854/
[03:03] <crimsun_> jontec: good, now download alsa-driver-1.0.14rc1
[03:03] <ubuntu> man how many people are here ............
[03:03] <crimsun_> jontec: I'm off for dinner and will return in 2 hours
[03:04] <ForgeAus> hey all
[03:04] <mariano> I did the whole backport thing and still no sound for flash player 9
[03:04] <jontec> crimsun_: and do what? before you leave?
[03:04] <ForgeAus> I'm running Kubuntu from within VM ware and I have an issue with the powermanagement
[03:04] <ForgeAus> (I can't seem to shrink the screen :( )
[03:04] <DaSkreech> Dink: Heya
[03:04] <tomlins> anyone know possibly why my Amarok will play streaming audio but I cant here it ? It plays other media just fine
[03:04] <ForgeAus> does SIGSEGV mean anyting to you guys?
[03:05] <mariano> I've tried three different browsers and nothing. I just get the picture with no sound
[03:05] <crimsun_> jontec: extract the tarball, use ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build --with-debug=detect && make && sudo make install-modules
[03:05] <DaSkreech> tomlins: Did you install extracodecs?
[03:05] <jontec> crimsun_: and that's it?
[03:05] <jontec> crimsun_: sorry for holding you up
[03:06] <tomlins> nope
[03:06] <tomlins> just what ever was downloaded with Kubunty
[03:06] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: 297
[03:06] <crimsun_> jontec: reboot afterward.
[03:06] <tomlins> kubuntu excuse me
[03:06] <DaSkreech> tomlins: install mp3 support
[03:07] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > tomlins
[03:07] <lbb_> tomlins: search for automatix, it will install all yo need
[03:07] <tomlins> great !
[03:08] <tomlins> thanks !
[03:08] <lbb_> anyone know how to unhide a partition, it is hidden by hide(hd0,1) in grub, but unhide(hd0,1) gives me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[03:08] <mariano> any idea as to how I can get sound on media flash player
[03:09] <LjL> !automatix | lbb_, tomlins
[03:09] <ubotu> lbb_, tomlins: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:09] <tomlins> hmmm, ok
[03:09] <jontec> crimsun_:thanks. and have a good dinner :D
[03:10] <coreymon77> !worksforme
[03:10] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:10] <tomlins> so, can anyone play streaming audio ok with Amarok ?
[03:11] <lbb_> ubotu: what is WorksForMe?
[03:11] <ubuntu> hello people , why is it that when i try to install kubuntu en my cpu it installs fine , but , when i do restart to start from the hard drive it gives me this message grub loading and then  ,error 105 ,
[03:11] <DaSkreech> tomlins: Install mp3 support
[03:11] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | tomlins
[03:11] <ubotu> tomlins: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <LjL> lbb_: look just above.
[03:11] <tomlins> yep. checking those out now :)
[03:11] <DaSkreech> !grub
[03:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:11] <ubuntu> ??
[03:11] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Read that last link
[03:12] <ubuntu> thank you
[03:16] <nibi> Hi
[03:16] <lbb_> LjL: I'm a bit confused about !WorksForme, also are you a bot too?
[03:17] <LjL> lbb_: no
[03:17] <lbb_> nini: Hi
[03:17] <LjL> lbb_: !worksforme is a bot factoid, just like !automatix. it's something that you can ask the bot about. and that's been done --
[03:17] <LjL> !worksforme
[03:17] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:17] <LjL> see?
[03:18] <nibi> i am having problems installing/uninstalling stuff, maybe there's something wrong with my package manager
[03:18] <lbb_> LjL: why did a tab just open explaining ubotu?
[03:18] <nibi> totally new to kubuntu
[03:18] <lbb_> nibi: what's happening?
[03:18] <nibi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1904375#post1904375
[03:19] <LjL> lbb_: because you asked "ubotu: what is WorksForMe?", not realizing, i suppose, that being just a bot, it can't really answer plain-english queries.
[03:19] <LjL> i suppose you got the "your request got forwarded", too.
[03:21] <lbb_> LjL, yeah, what does it mean
[03:22] <LjL> lbb_: it means you're involuntarily submitted a request for adding a factoid. when Ubotu sees something like "ubotu, <x> is <y>", it takes it as you're trying to instruct it on something.
[03:22] <LjL> maybe actually reading that page that i had it send to you would help understanding how that works ;)
[03:23] <lbb_> LjL, sorry, will read befory I ask any further...
[03:24] <tomlins> hey great, I inserted an mp3 CD which forced Amarok to ask if I wanted to install mp3 codecs, which I did, and now I can play streaming audio ! Super !
[03:24] <spitwise> !ubotu
[03:24] <LjL> lbb_: that's probably a good idea, not least because ubotu can be quite a nice source of information if you know how to use it.
[03:24] <LjL> !bot
[03:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:27] <tomlins> my next question is where do i get the libvisual stuff from ?
[03:31] <nibi> can anyone please help me out? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320849
[03:33] <lbb_> nibi: I'm not a bot, nor do i mind if you private me, but I cannot answer you there since i am not registered yet.
[03:33] <nibi> ok np
[03:33] <nibi> i just tried installing compiz a few days back
[03:34] <nibi> using adept manager
[03:34] <nibi> but it didn't complete successfully
[03:34] <nibi> gave me the following error message:
[03:34] <nibi> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[03:35] <nibi> now it lists compiz as installed, eventhough it isn't
[03:35] <lbb_> do you know what the message before that was?
[03:35] <nibi> that was the only message
[03:35] <nibi> i used the gui
[03:35] <orville> has anyone gotten the trackpad to work on a macbook pro?
[03:36] <lbb_> in the gui there is a possibility to see the shell messages
[03:36] <fannagoganna> hi, anyone know how to repair an orphaned LVM setup?
[03:36] <DaSkreech> I cna't format a partiton
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <DaSkreech> the mkfs command is telling me a bad argument was passed to the superblock
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <nibi> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:38] <DaSkreech> nibi: Where did you install compiz from?
[03:38] <nibi> i just searched it on adept manager
[03:38] <mariano> no luck
[03:38] <mariano> still no sound after logging out
[03:39] <[Relic] > Is there any way to get mozilla or firefox to cooperate with yahoo?
[03:40] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Know anything about mkfs.ext3 ?
[03:40] <DaSkreech> hi goes goodthing
[03:41] <goodthing> DaSkreech: bussy with my new disk, still not made my system to adopt the damn thing
[03:41] <[Relic] > certain things like email attachements and any multi player games don
[03:41] <lbb_> mariano: I have had my flash sound working on and off, but I don't know exactly what happened...
[03:41] <[Relic] > 't work on yahoo with firefox or mozilla
[03:42] <jerp> what's flash sound?
[03:42] <wes-> i am trying to mount an NTFS partition so that a standard user can access it (this is on the live cd). when i do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/windows", and try to open it in konqueror it says not enough permission
[03:42] <goodthing> got a new error message while booting though: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5826/1000991ql4.jpg
[03:42] <wes-> how can i do a mount command, that will give a non superuser full access?
[03:43] <goodthing> that message is with one of the maxtor disks on SATA3 port
[03:43] <lbb_> jerp: the sound in flashplayer ( for example for youtube)
[03:45] <jerp> libb, you're further along than I if you have a flash movie playing from YouTube regardless of sound.
[03:45] <murchadh_bhaba> wes try sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media
[03:45] <wes-> when i add "uid=1000" to the end of that mount command...it prints some help message...doesn't take the command
[03:45] <goodthing> hmm, not true what i say, it is with one specific maxtor on 3 and one specific on 2
[03:45] <wes-> any idea where my syntax is wrong?
[03:45] <murchadh_bhaba> wes try sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/windows
[03:46] <wes-> murchadh_bhaba: ok thanks, i know you suggested that earlier - my system crashed before i tried it
[03:46] <wes-> so i had to take a hardware detour for a few hours :)
[03:46] <lbb_> jerp: I used automatix, but that is controversial due to stabilityproblems
[03:47] <murchadh_bhaba> wes-, Try it again before I go....
[03:47] <jerp> libb, yes, I have used Automatix before
[03:48] <wes-> murchadh_bhaba: worked man, thanks!
[03:48] <ubuntu> well people thank you so much
[03:48] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Welcome
[03:48] <lbb_> jerp: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:48] <jerp> I just thought I'd try an operating system that wouldn't break and didn't install it
[03:49] <mariano> lbb, were you able to solve the issue
[03:49] <jerp> lbb, nope
[03:49] <murchadh_bhaba> wes-, Great stuff!
[03:49] <mariano> the flash player sound issue?
[03:50] <lbb_> mariano: no, as I said, I don't know what I did when it started working..
[03:50] <Jucato> DaSkreech: sorry, dunno anything about that
[03:50] <wes-> does anyone know what the password for the 'ubuntu' user is on the live cd?
[03:51] <wes-> or how i could set it?
[03:51] <LjL> wes-: should be blank
[03:51] <jerp> lbb, is that a flashplayer install guide or something?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[03:51] <mariano> well, looks like it is back to windows for a while
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Wouldn't happen o knowwhat a GPT signature is inside of a partition table?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> mariano: What's up?
[03:51] <mariano> no flash player sound
[03:52] <mariano> this is my first time trying kubuntu
[03:52] <lbb_> jerp: I don't understand you
[03:52] <mariano> no sound for flash player though
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Which flash player did you install?
[03:52] <jerp> I spent all day trying to get gnash to work and gave up (I'm severly newb)
[03:52] <mariano> been trying to fix it the whole weekend
[03:52] <mariano> 9
[03:52] <mariano> flahs player 9
[03:52] <wes-> anyone know the command to change your current users password?
[03:53] <jerp> lbb, nevermind, I thought you were enticing me or something or is it that ol' paranoia bug again?
[03:53] <lbb_> wes: you need to know you current one
[03:53] <excitatory> wes-: passwd
[03:53] <mariano> I found this post with a solution, but i'm freeked out it might screw up my sound
[03:54] <mariano> this is the first distribution that reads my sound card
[03:54] <lbb_> mariano: whats the link?
[03:54] <wes-> sudo passwd user newpassword ?
[03:54] <goodthing> $ sudo passwd username
[03:54] <excitatory> no need for sudo
[03:54] <goodthing> aha
[03:54] <excitatory> if it's just the users password
[03:55] <mariano> http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[03:55] <goodthing> ah, didn't realized that
[03:55] <excitatory> mariano: the flash9 player is easy.. you download it, then mv it into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[03:55] <mariano> I did
[03:55] <mariano> I have the flash player installed
[03:55] <excitatory> for konq, just rescan
[03:55] <mariano> I get the video playback
[03:56] <mariano> but there is no sound on the playback
[03:56] <lbb_> mariano: thx!
[03:56] <mariano> lbb did it work?
[03:56] <mariano> for you?
[03:56] <excitatory> mariano: chances are your sound card is teh suck.. or in other words, old and doesn't have hardware mixing..and thus you'll have to rely on software mixing or spend the 12 bucks on a modern sound card.
[03:57] <jerp> mariano, I've got an amd64 so it probably won't work anyways huh?
[03:57] <mariano> my sound card is a m-audio mobile pre
[03:57] <mariano> it is quite up to date
[03:57] <excitatory> hrm
[03:57] <excitatory> yea.. laptops are a beast i am unfamiliar with.
[03:58] <mariano> i'm not sure amd64. I read something about there being other solutions for the 64bit platform
[03:58] <mariano> I think mplayer might do it
[03:58] <mariano> thats what i've read thus far
[03:58] <mariano> not sure though
[03:58] <lbb_> mariano: don't know, I cannot boot into my OS atm
[03:58] <lbb_> anyone know how to unhide a partition, it is hidden by hide(hd0,1) in grub, but unhide(hd0,1) gives me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[03:59] <mariano> ok, i'm going to try this link's remedy
[03:59] <mariano> i'll let you guys know if it works within a few minues
[03:59] <jerp> when I use the gnash plugin I can see the fiel start as if a lighter shade of grey on the viewing area happens, but ends before it starts.
[04:02] <tomlins> if I download libvisual for Amarok, where do I place/install it ?
[04:03] <_kuja_> why not install the libvisual package?
[04:03] <tomlins> i am a linux noob, how to do that ?
[04:04] <excitatory> tomlins: your package manager is your friend
[04:04] <tomlins> ah
[04:04] <excitatory> tomlins: adept or apt-get
[04:04] <tomlins> apt-get libvisual ?
[04:05] <ForgeAus> I'm a linux noobie 2... how do I change my screen res without getting the power manager crashing from withing VMware?
[04:05] <_kuja_> *apt-get install libvisual
[04:05] <excitatory> tomlins: sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0  or just search adept
[04:05] <tomlins> i give that a try, thanks :)
[04:05] <excitatory> _kuja_: careful, 'libvisual' is not a package
[04:05] <_kuja_> indeed
[04:06] <_kuja_> libvisual-0.4.0, libvisual-0.4.0-plugins
[04:06] <jerp> forge, look in the control center
[04:06] <mariano> nothing
[04:06] <mariano> damn flash
[04:06] <mariano> player
[04:06] <mariano> I dont want to go back to windows
[04:06] <mariano> ahhh, ok I have to figure this out
[04:07] <jerp> forge, if you're in Kubuntu .... open system settings
[04:07] <tomlins> k, i tried 'sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0' and it said libvisual-0.4-0 is already the newest version.
[04:07] <jerp> forge, Hardware/Display
[04:07] <excitatory> tomlins: then it's already installed.
[04:08] <tomlins> seems like it, but when i try visualization in Amarok it says no plugin installed
[04:08] <eilker> linux cant see hda6 which is ext3 , i just created it in xp via partition magic
[04:08] <_kuja_> install libvisual-0.4-plugins
[04:08] <excitatory> yep
[04:08] <ForgeAus> tried that jerp
[04:09] <tomlins> k
[04:09] <eilker> what can i do ? what is it releated with ?
[04:10] <_kuja_> eilker, if it really exists, parted will agree with you. sudo parted /dev/hda print
[04:10] <ForgeAus> jerp the system settings display applet must be dependant on the power manager somehow... (or at least use it)
[04:10] <tomlins> ok, that did something
[04:10] <tomlins> i restart Amarok and see if it made any difference
[04:10] <_kuja_> kay
[04:11] <eilker> _kuja_: it is processing
[04:11] <eilker> _kuja_: does it take time  ?
[04:11] <mariano> tomlins let me know if you are successful with the vizualization
[04:11] <mariano> I am having the same problem
[04:11] <tomlins> SUCCESS !
[04:11] <_kuja_> eilker ... never takes time when I do it ... then again, my system is rather fast
[04:12] <eilker> _kuja_: it says hda is in use
[04:12] <tomlins> great, thanks peeps !
[04:12] <mariano> tomlins
[04:12] <mariano> what did you do
[04:12] <eilker> _kuja_: i have qtparted
[04:12] <_kuja_> eilker, did it print out the partition table?
[04:12] <tomlins>  sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-plugins
[04:12] <tomlins> then restarted Amarok
[04:13] <eilker> _kuja_: no it didnt
[04:13] <ForgeAus> whats sudo btw? just curious
[04:13] <eilker> _kuja_: now qtparted works
[04:13] <_kuja_> eilker, qtparted is a frontend to libparted. parted is the cli version ... if you had copied and pasted the command I gave into a terminal it should have printed out he partition table. If it didn't, something may be astray.
[04:13] <_kuja_> tomlins, that's great :)
[04:13] <tomlins> yep :)
[04:13] <tomlins> verycool indeed
[04:14] <eilker> _kuja_: qtparted shows it, but when i say df -h , i cant see it.
[04:14] <Cygnus-X> hi, i need some help
[04:14] <Cygnus-X> i have this error using adept  "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[04:15] <mariano> nice
[04:15] <mariano> that worked
[04:15] <ForgeAus> Whats a linux distro based on rpm's with gnome? (which I figure is pretty much opposite from KDE-based Debian like Kubuntu
[04:15] <mariano> it was that parted part that worked eh?
[04:15] <_kuja_> eilker, why not just reformat the partition, if nothing's on it. Could save you some trouble.
[04:15] <mariano> man flash is driving me crazy
[04:16] <eilker> _kuja_: how can i ? i even cant see it...
[04:17] <eilker> _kuja_: ohh ok :)
[04:17] <_kuja_> can you see it now?
[04:17] <eilker> _kuja_: no
[04:17] <excitatory> ForgeAus: why you would want rpm is beyond me, but Fedora Core and OpenSuSE come to mind.. mandriva also..
[04:17] <eilker> _kuja_: but i can format it with qtparted
[04:17] <Cygnus-X> some help?
[04:17] <eilker> _kuja_: right ?
[04:18] <_kuja_> eilker: right
[04:18] <yamathan> !kde
[04:18] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:18] <_kuja_> eilker: I would do it from a live cd if I were you though
[04:18] <yamathan> !themes
[04:18] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:18] <ForgeAus> yeah mandriva sounds like something I could try
[04:18] <_kuja_> eilker: it's best to do it when no partitions on the disk are mounted.
[04:18] <ForgeAus> (I'm just getting used to linux to begin with
[04:18] <yamathan> !changethemes
[04:18] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:19] <yamathan> Don't you just love automatic answers?
[04:19] <ForgeAus> about all I know about *nix in general is it uses ls instead of dir command to display directories! (lol and even then some have a dir)
[04:19] <_kuja_> The bot isn't quite an all knowing google, but is very nice indeed :)
[04:19] <eilker> _kuja_: could u look at my fstab ? because i write it manually...?
[04:19] <_kuja_> eilker: sure
[04:19] <excitatory> ForgeAus: well, what's wrong with *ubuntu?
[04:20] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[04:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:20] <Cygnus-X> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[04:21] <excitatory> Cygnus-X: argh.. please don't paste flood.. anyway, did you at least try it again?  restart adept, then try it.
[04:21] <eilker> _kuja_: here it is, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37859/ , the problem : i cant see hda6 when i type "df -h"
[04:22] <jerp> forgeAus, this forum entry says to manually change xorg stuff.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[04:22] <_kuja_> eilker: looks fine to me
[04:22] <eilker> _kuja_: ahaa, it is not mounted...??
[04:22] <eilker> _kuja_: i didnt mount it
[04:22] <_kuja_> sudo mount /media/hda6
[04:23] <excitatory> ForgeAus: seriously, you don't want an rpm-based distro.. it will only drive you insane
[04:23] <eilker> _kuja_: sudo mount /dev/hda6 /media/hda6    ??
[04:23] <ForgeAus> exitatory, Linux in general drives me insane :) but its ok
[04:23] <_kuja_> If it's in your fstab, you don't have to type the whole thing in
[04:24] <ForgeAus> I want to test both sides of the  fence before making a choice, still I think I like Kubuntu sofar
[04:24] <ForgeAus> just a few thigns I can't do with it yet
[04:24] <_kuja_> you only have to type sudo mount <device OR sudo mount <mountpoint>
[04:24] <excitatory> ForgeAus: like what, maybe we can help?
[04:25] <_kuja_> ForgeAus: sanity is overrated anyway
[04:25] <excitatory> ForgeAus: (it's funny.. i can barely be on windows for a few minutes without getting worked up)
[04:25] <eilker> _kuja_: mount: there is no mopunt point /media/hda6
[04:25] <eilker> _kuja_: mount: there is no *mount point /media/hda6
[04:25] <_kuja_> eilker: sudo mkdir /media/hda6
[04:25] <flaccid> nice
[04:26] <yamathan> Argh!
[04:26] <excitatory> Avast!
[04:27] <eilker> _kuja_: i see it in konqueror media:/hda6/lost+found
[04:27] <yamathan> Is there any pancea to switching themes?
[04:27] <yamathan> Do I really have to do it component-by-component?  D:
[04:28] <eilker> !lost+found
[04:28] <ubotu> lost+found is where !fsck places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.
[04:29] <_kuja_> eilker: is it working now?
[04:29] <excitatory> yamathan: no, you can find complete themes.. but if you were to do it piece by piece, it's only like 4 or 5 pieces
[04:29] <eilker> _kuja_: yes :)
[04:29] <yamathan> That's true, but I'm a total newb.  ;s
[04:29] <_kuja_> I thought so, it's just empty. Up to you to fill it up :)
[04:30] <eilker> _kuja_: thanx, let me reboot, may be it has speed problem, to access and see other medias..
[04:31] <dettoaltrimenti> what is the kde equivalent of gksudo?
[04:31] <eilker> kdesu
[04:31] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks
[04:31] <eilker> np
[04:33] <dettoaltrimenti> !kdesu
[04:33] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:36] <ForgeAus> excit worked up about what? I guess I'm used to windows
[04:36] <ForgeAus> coming from Dos -> windows background
[04:37] <ForgeAus> but I'd like to fiddle more with OSX and Linux distros
[04:37] <dettoaltrimenti> what is the name of the program that saves whatever is running when you log out, then opens it when you log back in? session manager?
[04:38] <_kuja_> k-menu -> save session
[04:38] <notech> excit?
[04:38] <notech> oh, abbreviated nick
[04:38] <ForgeAus> notech it was a username abbreviation
[04:38] <ForgeAus> lol yeah
[04:38] <ForgeAus> also the problem I'm having is probably caused somehow by VMware
[04:38] <dettoaltrimenti> I don't see save session.... is it 'lock session'?
[04:39] <ForgeAus> its just messing up the display applet in the system settings
[04:39] <ForgeAus> it causes a power management crash
[04:39] <yamathan> Wait a minute ...
[04:39] <yamathan> Kubuntu doesn't support .kth files, does it?
[04:40] <Chani> hmm, that sounds familiar
[04:40] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti ... it's in my kmenu, so that's odd
[04:40] <Chani> yamathan: kde-look has some sort of distro-agnostic thingy maybe?
[04:41] <yamathan> I THOUGHT they would, but NO.  :P
[04:41] <dettoaltrimenti> maybe I'm missing the package? does it have a name I can search for in adept? _kuja_
[04:41] <yamathan> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26392
[04:42] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti, I'll check
[04:42] <dettoaltrimenti> thank you
[04:42] <eilker> _kuja_: yes it works, now i wanna mount to /mnt/extra  , " sudo mount /media/hda6 /mnt/extra "  or " sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra " ?
[04:43] <_kuja_> eilker, just change it in your fstab, umount it, and then remount it
[04:43] <_kuja_> don't forget to create the /mnt/extra folder
[04:43] <eilker> i have it
[04:44] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti, I'm not positive, but it might be this package:
[04:44] <_kuja_> ksmserver - session manager for KDE
[04:44] <phobiac> !grub
[04:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:46] <eilker> 1* sudo umount /media/hda6  2* /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1  3* sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra " ?  is it ok ?
[04:46] <eilker> 2* will be done in fstab
[04:47] <dettoaltrimenti> _kuja_ tried uninstalling and reinstalling- is there a way I can launch the session manager from a terminal?
[04:49] <Chani> damnit, of course he leaves as soon as I get the theme installed
[04:49] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti, I'll check a couple of things. It should show up in the kmenu, *should*
[04:50] <_kuja_> chani: that's life
[04:50] <phobiac> chani: issues with a theme?
[04:51] <Chani> phobiac: someone else had issues. I just downloaded, extracted and clicked the .kth file and it worked
[04:51] <phobiac> Oh
[04:52] <eilker> _kuja_: am i ok? 1* sudo umount /media/hda6            2* /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1               3* sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra " ?  is it ok ?
[04:53] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti: try checking the session manager section in kcontrol, I'm not sure if it shows up in systemsettings or not (thus another example of my frustration with systemsettings)
[04:53] <Chani> oh, the theme manager is something that doesn't show up in systemsettings
[04:53] <_kuja_> eilker: should be okay
[04:53] <Chani> I really hope someone finds a way to make kcontrol less of a mess in kde4
[04:53] <_kuja_> Chani: another great example
[04:54] <DaSkreech> When is the gif copyright up?
[04:54] <_kuja_> Chani: I find kcontrol okay ... ever since that little filter box showed up ... or was that there all along? I don't remember
[04:55] <_kuja_> DaSkreech: I thought it was a patent, wasn't it?
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Right that thing :)
[04:55] <mariano> man,  still no luck with this flash
[04:55] <mariano> anyone else in here had this issue before
[04:56] <eilker> _kuja_: done:) thanx again
[04:56] <_kuja_> eilker: You're welcome.
[04:56] <DaSkreech> mariano: Check the forums
[04:56] <mariano> I have
[04:56] <mariano> did the manual install and nothing
[04:56] <jessie> hello all
[04:56] <_kuja_> hello
[04:57] <phobiac> mariano: What's the issue with flash you're having?
[04:57] <mariano> no sound
[04:57] <mariano> I get the video but no sound comes out
[04:57] <jessie> hey anybody know what a good program is to make flash videos?
[04:57] <matthew> mariano, look around in /etc/firefox for firefoxrc
[04:58] <matthew> change "auto" or whatever is listed for "aoss"
[04:58] <msak007> hey everybody
[04:58] <matthew> mariano, you may need to do a "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss"
[04:58] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: 11th Aug 2006 :)
[04:58] <phobiac> mariano: Hmm, only similar bug I get is that flash movie will just stop working for me. Games will lose their sound too.
[04:58] <mariano> let me try the also oss
[04:59] <mariano> maybe that will work
[04:59] <matthew> mariano, hope so
[04:59] <Chani> I thought the gif patents had already expired
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Chani: Yeah I just realised
[04:59] <mariano> mathew, will I need to logout
[04:59] <DaSkreech>  how come no one told me :(
[04:59] <matthew> mariano, no
[04:59] <_kuja_> DaSkreech, good news :)
[04:59] <matthew> mariano, only restart firefox
[04:59] <Chani> mariano: flash with no dound? ff or konq?
[04:59] <matthew> mariano, I'm assuming you're using firefox
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah now if people would get off thier butts and use teh PNG animation extension we could kill gifs
[05:00] <mariano> yes
[05:00] <Chani> there's a specific setting I always needed for konq
[05:00] <mariano> firefox 2.0
[05:00] <matthew> mariano, cool, this should/might work
[05:00] <mariano> nope did not work
[05:00] <Chani> I've no idea how to make FF use artsd for sound
[05:00] <jessie> hey anybody know what a good program is to make flash videos?
[05:00] <_kuja_> DaSkreech ... which extensions would those be?
[05:00] <matthew> mariano, try "alsa"
[05:01] <Chani> I wonder if 'artsdsp firefox' would work
[05:01] <Chani> oss? wha? tghat's deprecated, afaik
[05:02] <jester> can somebody help me?
[05:02] <_kuja_> Chani: not likely, firefox is likely a shell script, in which case you'd have to alter the shell script to open the binary with artsdsp, likely near the last line of said script.
[05:02] <_kuja_> At least, that's the case with Opera
[05:02] <matthew> alsa-oss
[05:02] <_kuja_> jester: Probably
[05:02] <Chani> evil.
[05:02] <matthew> Chani, do you have a solution?
[05:02] <mariano> no sound
[05:02] <mariano> still
[05:02] <jester> i need a good program to make flash videos/games
[05:02] <Chani> I had a game that ran from a script that could be wrapped with artsdsp, sorta, sometimes... it was weird
[05:02] <matthew> mariano, try logging out and back in again.
[05:02] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: The mozilla corp realized that MNG's sucked and decided to incorperate an optional extension to PNG's that would, if the browser supported it, show animation if not then it would show the fist frame of animation statically
[05:03] <Admiral_Chicago> jojay: windows blows at hardware support
[05:03] <mariano> ok
[05:03] <_kuja_> Oh yes, MNG, that thing that never took off
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:03] <matthew> Admiral_Chicago, I haven't found that to be true at all.
[05:03] <DaSkreech> I'm not talking about MNG though I'm talking about an extension to PNG
[05:03] <Chani> matthew: nope. I don't use FF any more. but if mariano is using kde, might it be artsd hogging hte soundcard? wouldn't you need to get FF to use artsd?
[05:03] <jester> _kuja_ i need a good program to make flash videos/games
[05:04] <matthew> Chani, I don't really know. I'm just saying what worked for me.
[05:04] <Chani> k
[05:04] <_kuja_> I've no idea if one exists or not jester. I thought that was a proprietary Adobe/macromedia thing.
[05:04] <jester> dang. ill just have to try using wine
[05:05] <mariano> nope, no sound
[05:05] <Chani> mariano: what options does FF have for sound? do you see anything that mentions arts?
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> matthew: jojay has laptop. Windows didn't detect his wireless OR ethernet port
[05:05] <_kuja_> systemsettings -> sound system -> hardware, try changing the audio device to alsa?
[05:05] <matthew> mariano, try switching back to "aoss" and logging in and out.
[05:05] <mariano> chani where can I check those options
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu detected it
[05:05] <matthew> Admiral_Chicago, oh, ok. I've never really played w/ lappys
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> by default i'm broke
[05:06] <matthew> lol, one more reason to use linux
[05:06] <eilker> can i mount my laptops'(xp+suse box) dvd writer to my pc (xp-kubuntu box) . pc and laptop behind a same dsl router. is it possible ?
[05:06] <Chani> mariano: umm... FF must have a settings option somewhere in its menu. I haven't used it in a while
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> yea free...
[05:06] <matthew> Admiral_Chicago, yup
[05:07] <jester> banshee won't run. i click the icon for it and it tries to open it, but it doesn't. in terminal it just sits there after "banshee"
[05:07] <jester> any help
[05:07] <matthew> mariano, I cannot help you anymore. sorry.
[05:07] <matthew> no more knowledge available from me. lol
[05:07] <eilker> !wine
[05:07] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:08] <Chani> mariano: whatever it was that matthew was suggesting you set to oss, does that have an arts option?
[05:08] <matthew> Chani, it's an etc, he can set it to anything.
[05:08] <mariano> nop
[05:08] <mariano> e
[05:08] <Chani> mariano: ohh.
[05:08] <matthew> etc == editable text file
[05:08] <Chani> I'm used to going through guis these days :)
[05:09] <matthew> Chani, lol, me too...always good to know what goes on under the hood, though.
[05:09] <mariano> well, i'm switching to alsa under the sound system and logging out
[05:09] <mariano> maybe that will do
[05:10] <jester> banshee won't run. i click the icon for it and it tries to open it, but it doesn't. in terminal it just sits there after "banshee"
[05:10] <jester> any help
[05:10] <mariano> if not, my but is going to have to move back to windows for a while
[05:10] <matthew> mariano, hpe so.
[05:10] <Chani> matthew: true.
[05:10] <mariano> brb
[05:10] <matthew> jester, try killall banshee
[05:10] <matthew> then try to open it again
[05:10] <Chani> mariano: if you're not too attached to FF, why not try the flash website in knoq?
[05:10] <Chani> *konq
[05:11] <_kuja_> Hm, it shouldn't have required him to log out at all, oh well, too late to tell mariano that now.
[05:11] <Chani> argh. my mum is making me shop for my own xmas present
[05:11] <matthew> _kuja_, yeah, now that I think about it, you're right...my bad
[05:11] <matthew> Chani, well, that's good, if you can spend a lot of money...hers, of course
[05:11] <jester> matthew, tried that. it opens the flash screen, but nothing more.
[05:11] <Chani> I'm starting to wonder exactly what settings he's changing...
[05:12] <Chani> mariano: if you're not too attached to FF, why not try the flash website in knoq?
[05:12] <matthew> jester, ok, I'm out of ideas, lol :P
[05:12] <mariano> try what?
[05:12] <Chani> matthew: she doesn't really have much money. both of us are getting money from dad. which makes the whole thing seem rather pointless to me
[05:12] <mariano> knoq?
[05:12] <matthew> Chani,ah, that sucks...
[05:12] <Chani> mariano: typo! meant konq
[05:13] <matthew> konqueror
[05:13] <mariano> konq wont play sound either
[05:13] <VR_> is edgy advised in favor of dapper right now?
[05:14] <DaSkreech> VR_: What do you want in a system?
[05:14] <matthew> mariano, starting to think this is the plugin...
[05:14] <VR_> i want it to work
[05:14] <mariano> well, konq  wont even play the video
[05:14] <matthew> mariano, are you using flash 9 beta or beta 2?
[05:14] <mariano> i've never used  konq
[05:15] <mariano> hm I believe is beta 2
[05:15] <matthew> hmmm...mine works...
[05:15] <mariano> how do I install the plugin into konq
[05:15] <matthew> VR_, what problems are you having?
[05:15] <mariano> that will be fine
[05:15] <matthew> mariano, no idea
[05:15] <matthew> talk to Chani about that
[05:15] <mariano> I just need to be able to play flash videos in  one way or another
[05:15] <DaSkreech> VR_: Dapper
[05:15] <mariano> chani you still in here
[05:15] <jester> matthew, ill try listen instead
[05:16] <VR_> matthew: i cant really put my finger on it. dapper feels more stable somehow, but i like, say, amarok more in edgy
[05:16] <matthew> jester, huh?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> VR_: are you using it as a Desktop?
[05:16] <VR_> DaSkreech: yeah
[05:16] <DaSkreech> VR_: Anything mission critical?
[05:16] <matthew> jester, you may want to give kaffeine a shot.
[05:17] <VR_> DaSkreech: nope
[05:17] <matthew> jester, sudo apt-get install kaffeine
[05:17] <matthew> if you want
[05:17] <ForgeAus> whats the difference?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> VR_: Then edgy :)
[05:17] <matthew> ForgeAus, between what?
[05:17] <compilerwriter> Can anyone tell me if it is possible for me to share a device that is on another Winblows machine in my network or am I going to have to ftp from one box to another?
[05:17] <ForgeAus> dapper vs edgy? it appears the Kubuntu I'm using is edgy
[05:17] <DaSkreech> I think it's nearly as polished as Dapper and the only gotcha is upstart
[05:17] <matthew> ForgeAus, one of the major differences is the upstart system
[05:17] <mariano> Chani hit me up when you're available. Maybe you can hel me set up the flash player on konq
[05:18] <matthew> a new way of loading linux...it's faster. I think
[05:18] <DaSkreech> It will be in Feisty
[05:18] <DaSkreech> as promised :)
[05:18] <matthew> I thought it was in edgy...
[05:18] <jester> matthew, i've got kaffeine. i dont really like the begining page, etc.
[05:18] <matthew> boy, I feel foolish...
[05:18] <_kuja_> Currently upstart is not a major change ... it's just emulating sysvinit
[05:19] <matthew> jester, the beginning page?
[05:19] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: When it is truly upstart will it break sysv?
[05:19] <matthew> jester, you mean the bean?
[05:20] <_kuja_> Break? No, replace, yes? I believe.
[05:20] <jester> matthew, i've got kaffeine. i dont really like the begining page, etc.
[05:20] <Chani> mariano: give me a few mins... I've done flash with konq lotsa times.
[05:20] <matthew> jester, what do you mean?
[05:20] <mariano> thanks man
[05:21] <jester> the page with "Play VCD, Play Audio CD, etc." if there was a way to change this, i might like it more.
[05:22] <_kuja_> Also, some people experience a bit of a speedup in the startup time if they edit a certain line in the /etc/init.d/rc file, by changing the concurrency line to concurrency=shell instead of concurrency=none
[05:22] <_kuja_> I didn't personally see any difference though ...
[05:22] <matthew> jester, if you open a media file, it will automatically begin playing it.
[05:22] <matthew> jester, no beginning page...
[05:22] <matthew> jester, are you saying you don't like having options? lol
[05:23] <jester> i dont know. just like amorok better.
[05:23] <_kuja_> I do believe with regards to kaffeine you can turn off the go tab altogether, if you wanted to
[05:23] <jester> oh, that would be nice
[05:25] <Chani> mariano: ok, I'm bac
[05:25] <mariano> ok
[05:25] <_kuja_> jester, at least you could in dapper, I'm having trouble finding the option in edgy
[05:25] <mariano> i'm ready
[05:25] <Chani> mariano: open konq, go to settings -> configure konqueror
[05:25] <Chani> mariano: scroll down through the stuff on hte left until you find 'plugins'
[05:26] <mariano> k
[05:26] <mariano> there
[05:26] <Chani> click 'scan for new plugins'
[05:26] <mariano> discard or save
[05:26] <Chani> oh?
[05:27] <Chani> discard what?
[05:27] <mariano> discard changes or save
[05:27] <Chani> neither!
[05:27] <Chani> click hte 'plugins' tab just above that button
[05:27] <mariano> ok
[05:27] <Chani> now do you see something under 'netscape plugins'?
[05:28] <mariano> yes
[05:28] <Chani> the libflashplayer thing, right?
[05:28] <mariano> yes
[05:28] <Chani> check hte box for 'use artsdsp...'
[05:28] <Chani> and then save.
[05:28] <mariano> it is checked
[05:29] <mariano> it is already checked
[05:29] <Chani> now try a flash site again
[05:29] <mariano> nothing, no video and no sound
[05:30] <mariano> it just goes black
[05:30] <Chani> ack :(
[05:30] <Chani> huh.
[05:30] <Chani> blackness.. I had that problem when I tried installing hte gpl'd flash plugin as well as the proprietary one
[05:30] <Chani> but, first, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[05:31] <mariano> 6.10
[05:31] <Chani> edgy, right?
[05:31] <mariano> it is kubuntu 6.10 yea, it has the mint package though
[05:31] <Chani> I'm in the middle of a dist-upgrade, so if there are bugs in edgy I wouldn't know
[05:32] <mariano> it suppose to have all the codecs installed
[05:32] <mariano> oh really?
[05:32] <mariano> would you suggest I go back to the previous version?
[05:32] <Chani> I'd suggest going into adept, search for flash; you should find two flash plugins. one gpl and one non-gpl. if the gpl one is installed, remove it
[05:32] <mariano> I have the non free one
[05:33] <intelikey>  /etc/rcS.d/S77winkeys: line 8: killall: command not found      hmmmm psutils procutils ???
[05:33] <Chani> mariano: but do you have only that, or both?
[05:33] <mariano> just that
[05:33] <Chani> mariano: I had the issue when I instaled both
[05:33] <Chani> oh, darn
[05:33] <Chani> you're sure?
[05:33] <mariano> yea, there are other flash players installed though
[05:33] <mariano> gnash
[05:35] <_kuja_> intelikey, how about /usr/bin/killall?
[05:35] <Chani> mariano: I'm running out of ideas :(
[05:35] <compilerwriter> Would someone walk me through a ssh session with one of my other boxes in my home network?
[05:35] <mariano> ok
[05:35] <mariano> its cool
[05:35] <SeanW> Hello Everyone
[05:35] <mariano> I might have to go back to suse or windows
[05:35] <mariano> i've been working on this all weekend
[05:36] <Chani> mariano: I don't *think* the other flash players would interfere...
[05:36] <mariano> i'm backed up on some work
[05:36] <mariano> its cool
[05:36] <Chani> mariano: evil :( flash works for me...
[05:36] <mariano> maybe i'll try the next release of kubuntu
[05:36] <intelikey> _kuja_ what supplies that ?
[05:36] <mariano> lol
[05:36] <Chani> I hope it doesn't break for me after this dist-upgrade :P
[05:36] <mariano> yea! well i'm off
[05:36] <_kuja_> psmisc, I think
[05:36] <Chani> but there's no mention of flash on the known problems list
[05:36] <mariano> thanks for your help man
[05:36] <mariano> :)
[05:37] <intelikey> k
[05:37] <SeanW> Does anyone know why windows won't detect errors on my hdd and installs fine when both ubuntu and kubuntu detect errors?
[05:38] <knapp> Hey guy. I'm trying to do "apt-get build-dep ffmpeg", but when I do I get 'E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_plf_dists_edgy-plf_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)'
[05:38] <knapp> Anyone know what I can do to fix that?
[05:38] <_kuja_> knapp, that's certainly odd.
[05:39] <the-erm> Has anyone ever had a problem with a computer not booting from cd, even tho the bios clearly has the cd first in the list?
[05:39] <compilerwriter> Hiya _kuja_ your pupils is ready to learn
[05:39] <_kuja_> Teach me oh mighty ssh manual :)
[05:40] <_kuja_> It'll take me a little while to figure out what I'm doing with it I'm sure
[05:40] <lupine_85> knapp: apt-get clean?
[05:40] <knapp> I'll try that
[05:41] <mariano> konq has picture now, but no sound
[05:41] <mariano> lol
[05:41] <mariano> funny
[05:41] <lupine_85> you'll need to apt-get update afterwards
[05:41] <mariano> thats a bit of progress
[05:41] <_kuja_> an apt-get update would help too. I think it said that it was missing the sources file from the repository .. or some such.
[05:41] <knapp> I did apt-get update
[05:41] <knapp> before
[05:41] <knapp> still having that problem, I will try apt-get clean in a sex
[05:41] <knapp> sec*
[05:42] <Chani> mariano: weeeird
[05:42] <Chani> mariano: btw, is this happening with *all* flash stuff from any site?
[05:42] <mariano> yea
[05:42] <mariano> google
[05:42] <mariano> dl.tv
[05:42] <mariano> all thus far
[05:43] <SeanW> Does anyone know why windows won't detect errors on my hdd and installs fine when both ubuntu and kubuntu detect errors?
[05:43] <mariano> well, i'm going to go try to install suse, maybe that will work ok
[05:43] <mariano> i just hate that eternal bootup
[05:43] <lupine_85> mariano: what's the "plugin use artsd" set to?
[05:43] <_kuja_> SeanW: Maybe Windows isn't very smart?
[05:43] <SeanW> it's almost as if ntfs works fine but ext3 wont work
[05:43] <ForgeAus> I wish I had have known it was going to be a 23mb file aptget wanted tho lol
[05:43] <mariano> ah
[05:43] <mariano> let me see
[05:43] <ForgeAus> I prolly need to upgrade my distro
[05:44] <knapp> lupine_85, tried clean still giving the same error. Apt-get update showed some GPG key error.
[05:44] <SeanW> _kuja_: I'd have to agree with you
[05:44] <mariano> under konq
[05:44] <mariano> ?
[05:44] <mariano> lupine i'm kind of lost
[05:44] <mike> Where do i find win32,vlc,mplayer etc?
[05:44] <_kuja_> SeanW: If ext3 won't work, your drive might not be in terribly good shape, who knows. What errors was it giving you?
[05:45] <mariano> I have that use to pipe plugin sound through arts checked
[05:45] <_kuja_> SeanW: if ext3 won't work, and ntfs5 will, perhaps you should try reiser, or jfs, or xfs, or ext2?
[05:45] <SeanW> _kuja_: Installing used to work fine but it jsut stopped working. I used to dual windows and ubuntu but then I had a hal.dll error
[05:45] <lupine_85> knapp: ok, how about sudo apt-cache gencaches ?
[05:45] <lupine_85> mariano: and in kde control panel->sound , is artsd enabled?
[05:45] <SeanW> _kuja_: which do you recommend?
[05:45] <lupine_85> ("KDE Sound System")
[05:45] <_kuja_> I personally use xfs.
[05:45] <lupine_85> I have it enabled with a 1-second turn off
[05:46] <_kuja_> The others work fine though. Keep in mind that ext2 doesn't use journaling.
[05:46] <SeanW> _kuja_: I'll have to check that out. I'll have to manually partition then, won't I?
[05:46] <Chani> SeanW: if your hard drive has issues, maybe you should get a new one before it gets worse?
[05:46] <_kuja_> SeanW: Yeah
[05:46] <mariano> let me check
[05:47] <SeanW> Chani: I would but us poor college kids need food :(
[05:47] <knapp> lupine_85 nope
[05:47] <Chani> SeanW: ahh. :( it not under warranty or anything?
[05:47] <mariano> would arts be enabled if I have checked the  "enable the sound system" box
[05:47] <mariano> it doesnt say arts
[05:47] <SeanW> _kuja_: Thanks for the help
[05:47] <Chani> mariano: yes
[05:47] <lupine_85> same error message?
[05:47] <mariano> but that little box is checked
[05:47] <_kuja_> You could probably pick up a hard drive pretty cheap off of newegg. I think the one I've got is running for about $80
[05:47] <lupine_85> mariano: yep
[05:47] <mariano> ok, it is enabled
[05:47] <knapp> yeah
[05:47] <lupine_85> is anything else using sound at the same time?
[05:47] <SeanW> Chani: I don't think it is anymore. This is the third one though..HP keeps sending me the same kind and they keep going bad
[05:48] <Chani> SeanW: oh dear. umm.. well, it is nearly xmas :)
[05:48] <lupine_85> if anything uses ALSA, artsd can't take control... in which case, you should (probably) tell konq. to stop using it
[05:48] <mariano> nope
[05:48] <lupine_85> knapp: one minute
[05:48] <mariano> but, i'm  pressing the test sound and I get  no sound
[05:48] <Chani> mariano: well, that's bad
[05:48] <mariano> however, I do get sound if I play music on amarok
[05:48] <mariano> or stuff like thats
[05:48] <_kuja_> SeanW: do you need a SATA or an IDE drive, I'll see what I can dig up that's cheap
[05:48] <SeanW> Chani: I'm a music student though so when I get enough money I'll get a mac :) Haha, yeah, christmas it may be but my dad is in between jobs
[05:48] <mike> w32 in kubuntu?
[05:49] <SeanW> _kuja_: I believe it's an IDE but I'm not sure
[05:49] <SeanW> _kuja_: It's an internal 100gig toshiba
[05:49] <_kuja_> 100gig? Probably an IDE drive.
[05:49] <lupine_85> knapp: what were you doing before you broke it? ;)
[05:49] <knapp> :O
[05:50] <lupine_85> personally, I would remove the PLF repo at this point and try to update again
[05:50] <knapp> I don't know. I haven't issued a build-dep in awhile
[05:51] <Chani> mariano: maybe try disabling hte sound system, clicking apply, then enabling it again? iirc that should restart artsd. worth a try
[05:51] <mariano> true
[05:51] <mariano> let me try
[05:51] <mariano> still no sound
[05:51] <_kuja_> SeanW: how about this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148095
[05:52] <SeanW> wow, that is cheap
[05:52] <RoKFiT> i'm having a problem.  I'm suffering from audio popping and I've installed a new COMPATABLE sound card and the issue persists!
[05:52] <knapp> lupine_85, I'll give it a shot. If it doesn't work I will have to figure this one out tomorrow. Thank you for the help.
[05:52] <SeanW> _kuja_: I was saving for a violin but I guess this takes precidence, huh..haha
[05:53] <SeanW> _kuja_: I forgot to mention im on an hp pavilion notebook, but thanks for the help :) I'll keep looking. I'm going to try to find toshiba's disk tools
[05:53] <_kuja_> ohhhhhhhh
[05:53] <_kuja_> You forgot to mention it was a notebook ...
[05:53] <SeanW> haha, yeah, my bad
[05:54] <SeanW> makes things a tad more expensive
[05:54] <SeanW> I have a 250gig external though
[05:54] <goodthing> DaSkreech: are you there? I now installer dapper and attached the disk afterwards, it behaves differently with on thing worth mentioning: when i put one of the maxtor specific at SATA3 it boots BUT my passwrd to login always fails.(!) When i disconnect that disk, my passwrd is working again.
[05:54] <DaSkreech> really?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> How does it fail?
[05:55] <goodthing> yeah 100%
[05:55] <goodthing> it says my passwrd is wrong, just that
[05:55] <goodthing> and when i switch the disk, i have another error
[05:55] <goodthing> with more output that is
[05:55] <goodthing> i will upload it
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Ah Ok
[05:56] <matthew> !pastebin
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[05:56] <DaSkreech>  I had someone today who said every time they puti nteh password the computer rebooted
[05:56] <matthew> !pastebin | goodthing
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[05:56] <matthew> DaSkreech, did that ever get resolved?
[05:56] <_kuja_> SeanW: It would really help to know if it was UltraATA 100 or ATA-6, here's an UltraATA 100 laptop drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144375
[05:57] <Chani> SeanW: I strongly suggest you find somewhere to back up your important data :) there must be free webspace around... and usb keys are pretty cheap now
[05:57] <DaSkreech> matthew: Don't know I had to leave as did londo4
[05:57] <matthew> DaSkreech, that sucks
[05:57] <Chani> my friend kept losing stuff 'cause he was working on a damaged hard drive
[05:57] <matthew> DaSkreech, any progress made?
[05:57] <SeanW> Chani: Yeah, i have it backed up on my external drive :)
[05:57] <matthew> Mine too
[05:57] <DaSkreech> I gave an alternative to login which I hope helped
[05:58] <goodthing> DaSkreech: http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/2601/1000992nz0.jpg (sorry, is big)
[05:58] <_kuja_> SeanW: Here's the "equivalent" ATA-6: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144378
[05:58] <matthew> goodthing, that is about ugly.
[05:59] <matthew> goodthing, is that the camera or the screen?
[05:59] <SeanW> _kuja_: Thanks.. I'll bookmark those. I'm looking on hp.com to find out which I have
[06:01] <goodthing> matthew: i know, it's a bad camera which ghosts very fast when you only move a little, and i needed to be fast because of batteries.
[06:01] <_kuja_> That was about the cheapest UltraAta-100, but you can probably go cheaper with the ATA-6 drives if you wanted to, down to about $30
[06:01] <matthew> goodthing, oh, ok...
[06:01] <Jucato> is there any other way, besides fdisk, to determine what filesystem a partition is formatted in?
[06:01] <matthew> goodthing, I've had this happen to me as well...can't remember the problem...lol
[06:01] <intelikey> SeanW will lshw not tell you ?
[06:01] <goodthing> matthew: i only just noticed it though, i took the picture and continued, but i can take it again if needed
[06:01] <matthew> Jucato, cfdisk
[06:01] <_kuja_> Jucato, how about parted? :)
[06:01] <Chani> Jucato: I prefer cfdisk to fdisk
[06:02] <Jucato> ok I'll check. thanks! :)
[06:02] <matthew> goodthing, nope, I don't care...it's readable, but I can't help you with it...sorry
[06:02] <goodthing> the same config on edgy gives another output http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7992/1000991xj9.jpg
[06:02] <SeanW> intelikey: I just run that in windows command prompt?
[06:02] <matthew> Jucato, it's already installed on your system
[06:02] <Chani> oh boy. the dist-upgrade is finally installing stuff...
[06:02] <Jucato> thanks
[06:02] <bLaZeD> !newsgroup
[06:02] <ubotu> There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org
[06:03] <intelikey> Jucato fdisk wont tell you the fs type   only what the partition is marked as.   mount will tell the fs type
[06:03] <intelikey> SeanW sorry.  no i don't think windows has that.
[06:03] <matthew> Chani, wow, the dist-upgrade worked? lol, mine hosed my computer
[06:03] <Jucato> well, it's not yet mounted... so...
[06:03] <_kuja_> goodthing, you know it's a badthing if it's dropping you back to busybox. Like ugly bad.
[06:03] <SeanW> intelikey: Yeah, I didn't recognize that command
[06:03] <Chani> matthew: it's still going. hasn't worked *yet*
[06:03] <goodthing> so it is weird, not to mention that i cannot find the first partition in /media/sda1 after i just have installed the whole system there
[06:04] <Jucato> hm... cfdisk...
[06:04] <Chani> 355mb free on the kubuntu partition :(
[06:04] <Chani> I really need to switch to LVM
[06:04] <matthew> Chani, good luck...hope you backed up your stuff...If you have to reinstall, I would make a seperate partition for your /home...that way, whenever you install a new ubuntu, all your data is still there...
[06:04] <intelikey> Jucato again cfdisk only reads the partition info  not the actual fs.
[06:05] <goodthing> _kuja_: well, it only happens when i use three disks, and one of the three need specific on a SATA connector
[06:05] <Chani> matthew: I backed up the entire partition to some free space :)
[06:05] <knapp> Anyone here know how I can add a codec to ffmpeg? For instance when I try to encode it says "Unknown codec aac"
[06:05] <goodthing> but the passwrd thing is even more weird
[06:05] <_kuja_> goodthing, did you have any problems like this in dapper?
[06:05] <goodthing> yeah, this IS dapper
[06:05] <Chani> matthew: and I have a gentoo partition on this comp, I can boot that if anything goes really wrong
[06:05] <matthew> Chani...hope it works, lol
[06:06] <_kuja_> oh, it is, then how about edgy?
[06:06] <goodthing> i' ve just gone back from edgy
[06:06] <matthew> Chani, that's good
[06:06] <_kuja_> Hmm, neither works eh? (sorry, I'm trying to get up to speed, but I still don't know all that has gone awry)
[06:06] <Chani> goodthing: gone back? why?
[06:06] <Jucato> intelikey: oh ok... see, my problem is this. I format /dev/hdb8 initially as FAT32 during the installation. then I reformatted it using QtParted to ext3, but when I fdisk'ed it, it still said FAT32. I used mkfs.ext3 on it, and still the same result...
[06:07] <_kuja_> Chani, there's the good, the bad, and the ugly. I'd say that goodthing's problem is the latter.
[06:07] <intelikey> Jucato yes that's common.  you can change the partition information if you use cfdisk and just change the type
[06:07] <goodthing> well, almost the same, the difference are those two URL' s to imageshack in one config(place hard disks) and in the other config edgy just sits and waits on "Waiting for root file system..."
[06:08] <Chani> ah bugger, I got the perl warning about setting locale failed
[06:08] <Jucato> intelikey: um.... you're familiar with cfdisk?
[06:08] <goodthing> Chani: just to test, i was testing anyways
[06:08] <intelikey> yes
[06:08] <Chani> and now...
[06:09] <Jucato> intelikey: ok, I changed the partition type to 83 (Linux). what do I do to make that change stick? (if I choose quit, it doesn't save the changes...)
[06:09] <intelikey> write
[06:09] <Chani> dpkg: libgl1-mesa: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request:
[06:09] <Chani> this worries me
[06:09] <Jucato> intelikey: it won't affect the other partitions?
[06:10] <Chani> mplayer, amarok and neverball all depend on that
[06:10] <matthew> roflmao @ Chani ....in a nice way
[06:10] <intelikey> Jucato no only what you change.
[06:10] <Jucato> ok thanks :)
[06:10] <_kuja_> Then I wouldn't recommend removing it, chani
[06:10] <intelikey> np
[06:10] <robotgeek> how do keybindings work with kubuntu?
[06:11] <Chani> _kuja_: too late! apt only told me about this as it was removing it!
[06:11] <goodthing> i guess the only thing i can really do is backup my data from the two maxtors on the new disk, wipe the maxtors and put them in RAID1. It is just to hope that will work out OK
[06:11] <_kuja_> reinstall it?
[06:11] <Jucato> intelikey: heh I'm always scared for those kind of stuff (partitioning/formatting)
[06:11] <Chani> _kuja_: I have to wait for the dist-upgrade to complete
[06:11] <_kuja_> Chani: Fun
[06:11] <intelikey> Jucato yes and for good reason
[06:11] <Jucato> :)
[06:12] <Chani> ohhh how I miss portage.
[06:12] <goodthing> btw, anyone wrote down my problem?
[06:12] <goodthing> i think it problem is the motherbord but who knows
[06:12] <Jucato> anyway... time for lunch!!! :)
[06:13] <shawn_home> abattoir?
[06:13] <shawn_home> 06:50  abattoir  Linux_Galore: work on kxdocker has stopped, i agree, but that's because stefano is working on XQDocker(for Qt/KDE4) ?
[06:13] <_kuja_> goodthing, it probably is a motherboard problem, sounds like one anyway
[06:13] <shawn_home> so where's the code for XQDocker? :)
[06:13] <shawn_home> cause there's no working docker :(
[06:13] <abattoir> i just got back
[06:13] <shawn_home> abattoir: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/kubuntu-2006-09-24.html
[06:13] <robotgeek> hmm, where is the xmodmap file that kubuntu uses located?
[06:14] <shawn_home> looking for something and tripped this on google ;)
[06:14] <abattoir> shawn_home: yes, i remember that clearly :)
[06:14] <abattoir> no need to refer to the logs
[06:14] <shawn_home> kxdocker 1.1.4 a i have working on ubuntu/debian, but its badly weird
[06:14] <shawn_home> im surprised it runs even
[06:14] <shawn_home> with all the plugins needed
[06:14] <RoKFiT> hello can anyone help me?  I'm getting audio popping on a freshly installed sound card!
[06:15] <shawn_home> abattoir: so whats a good macos X docker for ubuntu? that works? :)
[06:15] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, that's odd, does it do it when you're running the livecd too?
[06:15] <abattoir> shawn_home: are you running KDE4? :)
[06:15] <shawn_home> ksmoothdock chokes with compiz/beryl
[06:15] <dettoaltrimenti> I deleted kdewallet, but Kopete still asks me for the kdewallet password every time I start it- how can I keep this from happening?
[06:15] <abattoir> shawn_home: i use kxdocker and it works for me
[06:15] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: yes.
[06:15] <intelikey> hmmmm oooops i think i just set my hardware clock to local time...
[06:15] <shawn_home> abattoir: not yet, although i have the svn checked out
[06:15] <abattoir> shawn_home: hmm, i've heard a lot of kibadock, but i can't try it myself
[06:15] <shawn_home> kxdocker works but its not configurable easily
[06:15] <abattoir> (as i don't have beryl running)
[06:15] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, does it do it with other speakers?
[06:15] <RoKFiT> i need a fix
[06:15] <RoKFiT> i'm using headphones, and yes
[06:15] <shawn_home> i have kibadock packages for ubuntu/deb, but it doesnt have task manager support
[06:15] <shawn_home> so its lacking
[06:16] <Chani> dettoaltrimenti: *deleted*?
[06:16] <_kuja_> What was that other docker I heard of, kooldock?
[06:16] <Chani> dettoaltrimenti: that sounds bad.
[06:16] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: yes it does it with other headphones
[06:16] <shawn_home> kooldock with composite == broken
[06:16] <Chani> dettoaltrimenti: I believe there was a way to tell kopete not to store passwords in the wallet. just don't remember where
[06:16] <shawn_home> so let's see: ksmoothdock, kibiadock, kxdocker, cairo-dock (works, but its 0.0.1b), kooldock..
[06:17] <shawn_home> so far.. nothing stable / usable :(
[06:17] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, hmmmm, Well, that's just lurvely. I've really no idea though.
[06:17] <shawn_home> cairo-dock lacks functionality but it works
[06:17] <goodthing> _kuja_: hmm, maybe just RMA the board, and let the shop take care of it?
[06:17] <shawn_home> did I miss any? :)
[06:17] <abattoir> heh
[06:17] <knapp> Anyone here know how I can add a codec to ffmpeg? For instance when I try to encode it says "Unknown codec aac"
[06:18] <shawn_home> abattoir: im stuck with none ;/
[06:18] <abattoir> shawn_home: i compile kxdocker(with all the plugins) from source
[06:18] <shawn_home> kxdocker 1.1.4a works. but its pissy with configuration in gui
[06:18] <_kuja_> goodthing: I'm thinking it's the model of the board, not a problem with that specific board.
[06:18] <shawn_home> abattoir: I have packages build (checkinstall) for the plugins
[06:18] <shawn_home> built
[06:18] <shawn_home> have to hack some code to add the missing headers for each one
[06:18] <abattoir> ok, then i guess you'll have to get used to the gui :(
[06:19] <shawn_home> it needs a good overhaul anyway, a -dev- package for one thing
[06:19] <shawn_home> total debianization needed
[06:19] <_kuja_> shawn_home, if they do choke with compiz/beryl, maybe they werne't designed to work with it?
[06:19] <intelikey> abattoir blasphemy
[06:19] <shawn_home> kxdocker has a patch for composite, which helps. but kxdocker doesnt work with xinerama and screens
[06:19] <abattoir> intelikey: used to 'the' gui, not get used to gui :)
[06:19] <shawn_home> it seems to only want to be on the wrong screen (#2)
[06:20] <abattoir> intelikey: meaning, kxdocker's configurator
[06:20] <intelikey> oh  ok mybad.
[06:20] <shawn_home> that configurator is.. horrid :(
[06:20] <intelikey> wheeew !
[06:20] <shawn_home> whats all this raw object stuff
[06:20] <intelikey> :)
[06:20] <ubuntu> Hey all, It's SeanW again
[06:20] <ubuntu> _kuja_: Hey kuja
[06:20] <shawn_home> totally unuserfriendly (new word)
[06:21] <_kuja_> Hi there ubuntu
[06:21] <ubuntu> _kuja_: I booted with the kubuntu live cd
[06:21] <_kuja_> or are you saying ubuntu = SeanW?
[06:21] <ubuntu> _kuja_: it's SeanW, the one.yeah
[06:21] <_kuja_> okie dokie
[06:21] <shawn_home> so where's this new code for http://xqde.xiaprojects.com/  xqde?
[06:21] <shawn_home> i just see a webpage ;)
[06:21] <goodthing> _kuja_: so RMA will only do me good if i can get another type board which also can come with problems, o boy... and then i bought the disk at a shop who thinks it's normal to send used TFT's back as a replacement when you RMA. Even this board was already RMA' ed and used before i got it :(
[06:22] <shawn_home> abattoir: I know his english isn't very good :(
[06:22] <_kuja_> shawn_home, google doesn't want to give an answer :(
[06:22] <goodthing> used TFT with scratches too
[06:22] <abattoir> shawn_home: i agree... but his code seems better :P
[06:22] <shawn_home> neat 'you will noticed by bouncing mail icon when you receive new mails!'
[06:23] <abattoir> shawn_home: you'll probably see some code when kde4 is getting ready for release
[06:23] <RoKFiT> is it possible to install a windows codec for amarok?
[06:23] <ubuntu> _kuja_: I wonder if I can use some student loans for a mackbook pro...haha
[06:23] <shawn_home> abattoir: his code is ok, the gui isn't nor the XML mess :(
[06:23] <ubuntu> _kuja_: I'll have to pay it back eventually with interest though
[06:23] <shawn_home> abattoir: im not sure what he is trying to do :)
[06:23] <intelikey> !codecs | RoKFiT
[06:23] <ubotu> RoKFiT: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:23] <_kuja_> goodthing: That's not a very fun situation then. What model is the motherboard? Hmmm, maybe you should see if another distribution will install flawlessly on it. Perhaps something with a newer kernel like FC6
[06:24] <goodthing> _kuja_: asus a8n sli deluxe with BIOS version 1011
[06:24] <_kuja_> ubuntu: Student loans are expensive :(
[06:24] <abattoir> shawn_home: anyways, i've tried most of the docks that i can try, and have found kxdocker to be the best... even though it lacks a lot
[06:24] <ubuntu> _kuja_: Yessir...I have them
[06:24] <shawn_home> abattoir: most of the functionality hides in the dcop plugin
[06:25] <ubuntu> _kuja_: Well, im going to try to install kubuntu one last time.. wish me luck
[06:25] <abattoir> shawn_home: well, even the basic animation is not smooth here...
[06:25] <_kuja_> good luck :)
[06:25] <abattoir> shawn_home: but still, it serves the purpose, so i use it
[06:25] <shawn_home> abattoir: whats the *easiest* way to configure kxdocker?
[06:25] <shawn_home> ie can i do it via cli to add icons to the docker etc?
[06:25] <shawn_home> if so, i can live with that
[06:25] <abattoir> shawn_home: i install all plugins, drag and ddrop icons
[06:26] <abattoir> shawn_home: then modify the xml file by hand and save a backup copy elsewhere
[06:26] <shawn_home> drag /n drop doesnt seem to work for me
[06:26] <shawn_home> hrm
[06:26] <abattoir> it works if i drag entries for the kmenu
[06:26] <dennister> hi abattoir, long time no see
[06:26] <dettoaltrimenti> the "save session" option doesn't appear in my k-menu- is there any other way to save the current session, or can I get that link to show up somehow?
[06:26] <shawn_home> you do not need kxdocker-data / resources ?
[06:26] <abattoir> hello dennister :)
[06:27] <shawn_home> abattoir: is there a good howto on configuring that xml file anywhere?
[06:27] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti, can you take a look at what your settings are in kcontrol -> session manager?
[06:27] <ubuntu> _kuja_: argh.. I can hear the hard drive heads every once in a while
[06:27] <goodthing> _kuja_:  well, FC does not use debian packages right? Hmm, i have bad reminders of rpm...
[06:27] <abattoir> dettoaltrimenti: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager
[06:27] <dennister> anyone need some help from a noob?
[06:27] <abattoir> dettoaltrimenti: if you are in dapper System Settings -> KDE Components -> Session Manager
[06:27] <dettoaltrimenti> yes I see that. I'm on edgy
[06:28] <abattoir> shawn_home: none that i know of :(
[06:28] <shawn_home> abattoir: i have kxdocker, kxdocker-configurator, kxdocker-dcop, kxdocker-gdate, kxdocker-taskmanager, kxdocker-thememanager, kxdocker-trayiconlogger, kxdocker-wizard (doesnt work?)
[06:28] <_kuja_> goodthing: Right, I'm just wondering if it will install without giving you h*** If it does, I'd have you install Feisty Herd 1, which also uses the 2.6.19 kernel :)
[06:28] <dettoaltrimenti> ah got it. thanks abattoir!
[06:28] <shawn_home> abattoir: some plugins just work in 1.1.4a?
[06:28] <shawn_home> which version are you using?
[06:28] <abattoir> shawn_home: ok, does kxdocker run? what icons do you see?
[06:28] <shawn_home> 1.1.4a or 0.x?
[06:28] <shawn_home> it runs, but the gui interface seems bustedish
[06:28] <abattoir> dettoaltrimenti: no problem
[06:28] <shawn_home> ie, grayed out l
[06:29] <goodthing> _kuja_: ahh, i see :)
[06:29] <shawn_home> abattoir: the effects, wizard button
[06:29] <abattoir> shawn_home: all the tabs?
[06:29] <shawn_home> abattoir: the tabs are fine
[06:29] <abattoir> shawn_home: Rolling Icons are where all your icons go... is that enabled?
[06:29] <shawn_home> i think so
[06:30] <shawn_home> you have a good .xml config ? :)
[06:30] <shawn_home> then i can tinker with that
[06:30] <shawn_home> or manually add the icons once i know what to do
[06:30] <abattoir> shawn_home: ok, i'll pastebin it
[06:30] <shawn_home> merci
[06:30] <DaSkreech> goodthing: plus i think that fedora has yum now
[06:30] <shawn_home> abattoir: which version are you using?
[06:30] <shawn_home> perhaps the 1.x.x version isn't finished
[06:31] <ubuntu> _kuja_: have you heard of anything that partitions the bad sectors together so that I can utilize the good parts of the drive? the drive would be crazy slow though wouldn't it...
[06:31] <abattoir> shawn_home: 1.1.4a
[06:31] <shawn_home> ok same
[06:31] <goodthing> DaSkreech: sounds tasty, well let' s try that, download is already running
[06:31] <shawn_home> abattoir: you did not compile resources ?
[06:32] <RoKFiT> will there evere be w32codecs for AMD64?
[06:32] <shawn_home> seems to duplicate some other files in the other tarballs
[06:32] <abattoir> shawn_home: i think i did
[06:32] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Man that would have shot my week
[06:32] <shawn_home> ok
[06:32] <dennister> RoKFiT: why do u think it's needed? i had an amd64 installation, but w32codecs worked fine
[06:33] <intelikey> ubuntu maybe a quick read on   man badblocks   would be to your advantage
[06:33] <_kuja_> ubuntu: haven't heard of anything like that
[06:33] <jebho> how do you boot the liveCD version of kubuntu for macs?
[06:33] <RoKFiT> well how do i install them?
[06:33] <dettoaltrimenti> is there an easy way to turn on/off the pointing device on my laptop? for when I do/do not have a mouse
[06:33] <_kuja_> ubuntu: You might be able to find out which sectors of the disk are bad though ... and if so, avoid partitioning those sectors
[06:33] <ForgeAus> jeb, interesting question, I have no idea!
[06:33] <RoKFiT> dennister: i have all repos enabled and i can't find them with adept search
[06:33] <dennister> RoKFiT: dpkg -i --force-architecture <path>w32codecs
[06:34] <shawn_home> abattoir: ok, i have kxdocker reinstalled now
[06:34] <RoKFiT> what path?
[06:34] <shawn_home> now it might be the .xml config the author bundles it with
[06:34] <dennister> you have to get it elsewhere than the repos
[06:34] <shawn_home> i know it doesnt properly find plugins without some changes
[06:34] <RoKFiT> like where?
[06:34] <abattoir> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37872/
[06:34] <abattoir> shawn_home: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37872/
[06:34] <dennister> i'll do the search...have some ideas, hold on
[06:35] <intelikey> dettoaltrimenti you could have two xorg.gonf files startx using the one for +pointer the other for -pointer
[06:35] <abattoir> shawn_home: change instances of /home/user to you user name
[06:35] <shawn_home> yes
[06:35] <intelikey> dettoaltrimenti that could even be done automatically via an init script
[06:35] <_kuja_> ubuntu: I really can't recommend continued use of a bad disk for any longer than you have to though
[06:36] <intelikey> dettoaltrimenti or interactivly would brobably be easier.
[06:36] <dettoaltrimenti> intelikey how do you mean
[06:37] <_kuja_> goodthing, with regards to the board you have, if you do try to rma it, see if you can get an a8n sli premium. Supposedly it has worked out some of the problems with the standard and the deluxe, besides that, it's a nicer board :)
[06:37] <shawn_home> abattoir: this gets copied to $HOME and /usr/share/apps/kxdocker?
[06:37] <goodthing> _kuja_: tnx!
[06:38] <shawn_home> or the system one is just nothing? :)
[06:38] <abattoir> shawn_home: ~/.kde/share/apps/kxdocker/ and /usr/share/apps/kxdocker
[06:38] <shawn_home> ok
[06:38] <shawn_home> thought so
[06:38] <abattoir> shawn_home: i think it reads the one in the home folder first
[06:38] <dennister> RoKFiT: http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/dists/dapper/non-free/
[06:39] <shawn_home> done
[06:39] <touchscreen> I'm trying to get my Aspen touchscreen to work with Kubuntu, but my limited driver knowledge of Linux is proving to be challenging. It connects VIA USB, and Aspen's site provides drivers for Mandrake, Fedora, and SUSE, but it isn't so kind as to tell us how to install them, or how to modify them for Ubuntu. Can someone please walk me through this? Thanks.
[06:39] <dennister> RoKFiT: u still here?
[06:39] <intelikey> dettoaltrimenti setup one conf with the pointer and the other without   use a symlink to choose which   a quick  read -p "start X with blah" A ;[ "$A" = y ]  && ln -s WITH.conf xorg.conf || ln -s WO.conf xorg.conf       or at least a houndred other ways....
[06:39] <RoKFiT> dennister: Package:  w32codecs_20060611-0.0ubuntu0unofficial1_amd64.deb
[06:39] <RoKFiT> is that the right one
[06:39] <RoKFiT> yest im here please dont leave
[06:39] <dennister> yes it is
[06:40] <dettoaltrimenti> does gmail work in konqueror for anyone here? I am always redirected to the html only site- am I missing something?
[06:40] <RoKFiT> can you explain to me why everything is windows codecs and why linux cannot play them without popping?
[06:40] <dennister> save it and libdvdcss to a very safe place outside of your linux installation
[06:41] <intelikey> dettoaltrimenti you should probably make that time out also in case of un-attended boot
[06:41] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti, I think that's a result of google trying to be evil ... check that konqueror is identifying as something else like safari on the gmail site.
[06:41] <abattoir> dettoaltrimenti: you'll have to change the browser User Agent
[06:41] <RoKFiT> dennister: The file or folder /var/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-0.0ubuntu0unofficial1_amd64.deb does not exist.
[06:41] <compilerwriter> !ssh
[06:41] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:41] <abattoir> dettoaltrimenti: Tools ->Browser Identification
[06:41] <abattoir> dettoaltrimenti: choose firefox/safari
[06:41] <dennister> RokFit: you don't need  an amd64 version
[06:41] <shawn_home> it runs :)
[06:42] <shawn_home> with lots of X error (BadMatch)
[06:42] <intelikey> dettoaltrimenti but i'm probably talking over you, aren't i....   sorry i'll hush.
[06:42] <shawn_home> heh
[06:42] <RoKFiT> dennister: The file or folder /var/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-0.0ubuntu0unofficial1_i386.deb does not exist.
[06:42] <bioticpro> Hey yall, anybody here have experience with video playback on TV-out of an nvidia card? I am getting occasional choppy playback on all movies out of svideo
[06:42] <dennister> all you have to do is download the 32-bit version, and then install it using the --force-architecture option, ignore any warning messages
[06:42] <shawn_home> abattoir: im not sure what make float means
[06:43] <dettoaltrimenti> intelikey hey tried to send you a message but I'm not registered and don't know how.... I need to read a bit about 'symlink' and all that, didn't want to ask you things I could find out on my own. I'll probably ask you more questions about the same problem later ;)
[06:43] <daft_man> Can someone help me
[06:43] <shawn_home> some icons appear to stay in dock some others go away if i dont lock them
[06:43] <daft_man> I just bought a new computer
[06:43] <daft_man> Move my hd over and boot up linux
[06:43] <dennister> that --force-architecture option is a godsend for amd64 users
[06:43] <daft_man> everythin works fine except the networking
[06:43] <abattoir> shawn_home: where is it? which line?
[06:43] <RoKFiT> a godsend?
[06:43] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, rather than go through all this trouble, why not go to http://mplayerhq.hu and download the w32codecs, and put them in the folder /usr/lib/win32. Problem solved?
[06:43] <shawn_home> abattoir: the menu options :)
[06:43] <daft_man> i can't connect to my router
[06:43] <intelikey> dettoaltrimenti /msg nickserv help
[06:44] <daft_man> what should I do?
[06:44] <dennister> and I used it for w32 codecs and my printer in so many installations on amd64 systems it's not even funny
[06:44] <RoKFiT> so i want to launch the installer from a terminal with what options?
[06:44] <_kuja_> dpkg --install --forcearchitecture <package>
[06:44] <shawn_home> abattoir: so you can drag icons to the dock and it adds them for you?
[06:44] <dennister> it's very definitely safe for w32codecs
[06:44] <dettoaltrimenti> register hello
[06:45] <dennister> therey's a hypen in --force-architecture
[06:45] <dettoaltrimenti> ah, ignore that please
[06:45] <_kuja_> typod
[06:45] <_kuja_> My fingers have failed me yet again
[06:45] <abattoir> shawn_home: yes, that's how most of those icons were added
[06:45] <shawn_home> does it change shape or anything mine just ignores the adds
[06:45] <touchscreen> Alright.. well I'm going to go check the forums and hope someone knows
[06:45] <touchscreen> :)
[06:45] <dennister> they failed me to -->hypen
[06:46] <daft_man> is there some sort of command I can use to set up my new network card?
[06:47] <_kuja_> daft_man, is it not picking it up out-of-the-box?
[06:47] <daft_man> it is picking it up when I typed lspci
[06:47] <abattoir> shawn_home: when you drag something, do you see it's icon?
[06:47] <daft_man> I dont want to run the setup disk again
[06:47] <RoKFiT> dennister: http://pastebin.ca/284673
[06:47] <daft_man> I just plug the new network card in
[06:47] <daft_man> lspci detects it
[06:47] <shawn_home> well i see an icon being dragged to it, but its not appearing in it
[06:48] <abattoir> shawn_home: when you try to place it over another icon, you should get an 'X'(depending on your cursor theme)
[06:48] <daft_man> but ping cant
[06:48] <_kuja_> systemsettings -> network settings -> play with things?
[06:48] <shawn_home> none..
[06:48] <abattoir> shawn_home: if you place it in a free area, you should see a little + icon
[06:48] <RoKFiT> dennister: are you there?
[06:48] <shawn_home> perhaps I forgot to build a plugin?
[06:48] <abattoir> shawn_home: no, this is basic KDE
[06:48] <dennister> yep, u're doing fine aka the pastebin...see that it worked
[06:49] <RoKFiT> now what do i do?
[06:49] <shawn_home> let me move the panel to the top
[06:49] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, after what?
[06:49] <dennister> you're done, honey, try to play something
[06:49] <shawn_home> hrm
[06:49] <shawn_home> its not saving
[06:50] <shawn_home> runs in.. an term...
[06:50] <abattoir> shawn_home: yeah, saving is a pain, make sure you make a backup of the .xml after saving
[06:50] <abattoir> shawn_home: else if you don't have session restore, it loads the older profile
[06:50] <shawn_home> Grabbing the mouse failed with "AlreadyGrabbed"
[06:50] <RoKFiT> dennister: the mp3's are still popping
[06:51] <intelikey> abattoir edgy and fisty still use /etc/rcS.d/*  ?
[06:51] <dennister> hmmm...what multimedia application r u using?
[06:51] <RoKFiT> amarok
[06:51] <abattoir> intelikey: i think so, yes
[06:51] <dennister> using kubuntu? edgy?
[06:51] <intelikey> k
[06:51] <RoKFiT> yes
[06:52] <flaccid> sounds normal _kuja_
[06:52] <dennister> that's really odd..."popping" as in crackly noises?
[06:52] <RoKFiT> yes
[06:52] <_kuja_> Does it do it with other files? What engine are you using for playback?
[06:52] <shawn_home> oh well, i'll do it manually
[06:52] <dennister> ok, that has nothing to do with w32codecs...r u using xine engine?
[06:52] <dennister> and alsa?
[06:52] <_kuja_> (by other, I mean non-mp3)
[06:52] <RoKFiT> yes other files too, xine
[06:53] <RoKFiT> and alsa, yes
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> I need a non US user for a second
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> volunteers?
[06:53] <dennister> that's with your sound setup then
[06:53] <dennister> Admiral_Chicago: canada here
[06:53] <RoKFiT> i just installed a sound card
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> dennister: http://www.getfirefox.com/
[06:53] <RoKFiT> what else can i do?
[06:53] <dylan_> i am attempting to use the "write" command and it keeps telling me it has been turned off
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> what does this URL redirect to?
[06:53] <dennister> k then it's the sound card RoKFiT
[06:54] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: i am Dutch, is that well enough? :D
[06:54] <RoKFiT> it did it with onboard too i mean
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> goodthing: same thing http://www.getfirefox.com/
[06:54] <RoKFiT> onboard an today this sound card, both crackle
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> what does that redirect you to?
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> the exact URL please
[06:54] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, does it do it with ogg files too?
[06:54] <dennister> Admiral_Chicago: i get http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
[06:54] <RoKFiT> and this sound card is alsa supported
[06:54] <RoKFiT> yes and wav
[06:54] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: it forwards to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
[06:55] <dylan_> is there a way to turn write "on"
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> dennister & goodthing: are both your locales set to EN?
[06:56] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: no to NL
[06:56] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, does it do it with all audio-using applications you use?
[06:56] <goodthing> Dutch
[06:56] <dennister> RoKFiT: this is where I have to bow out...don't know anything about setting up sound cards, but it's defintiely not a problem with w32codecs
[06:56] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: yes
[06:56] <dennister> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[06:57] <RoKFiT> if i set to 48000khz do i need to restart for changes to take into effect?
[06:57] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, shouldn't need to
[06:57] <RoKFiT> okay then that does not fix it
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> dennister thanks :)
[06:57] <RoKFiT> is it the kernel?
[06:57] <_kuja_> Oh, and RoKFiT, if anything has dynamic range compression turned on, turn it off
[06:57] <dennister> RoKFiT: u should restart the sound server
[06:57] <dennister> np Admiral_Chicago
[06:58] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: where would i see that option?
[06:58] <dennister> but u don't have to restart x or the pc itself...
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> goodthing: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/
[06:58] <_kuja_> Xine's configuration has such an option
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> which package would you grab?
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> err release
[06:58] <RoKFiT> dennister: that still does not fix it
[06:58] <_kuja_> I doubt this is the problem though RoKFiT, though that can cause popping
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> just nl?
[06:58] <RoKFiT> what am I to do?  I'm just lost
[06:59] <shawn_home> seems to be working more
[06:59] <momal> Looking for a good video editor... tried lives, kino, cinerella but they aren't what im looking for... any suggestions?
[06:59] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: yeah, i don' t see a reson not to
[06:59] <goodthing> *reason
[06:59] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, what do your sound system settings in systemsettings look like?
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> goodthing: http://www.mozilla.com
[07:00] <dennister> like i said RoKFiT; i'm a bit limited because i've never had that problem, so have no experience in fixing audio/popping..kuja will help and i'll but out :)
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> does it direct to nl or to us-en?
[07:00] <goodthing> to en-US/
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> okay so the problem is with mozilla not my links
[07:00] <RoKFiT> one second _kuja_
[07:00] <dennister> heheheh
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> goodthing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> i updated that site right now, i wasn't sure if the links to download FX where directing to the right page
[07:01] <RoKFiT> enable the sound system is checked, network sound is not, skip prevention- run with highest priority is checked, sound buffer is as large as possible
[07:02] <_kuja_> how about the hardware tab?
[07:02] <RoKFiT> under hardware, select audio device - autodetect
[07:02] <RoKFiT> everything else off
[07:02] <ForgeAus> is there a way to bypass power management when loading the display configuration in system settings?
[07:02] <ForgeAus> its krashing my kubuntu
[07:03] <_kuja_> Try playing with some things in there, like changing autodetect to ALSA, and playing with the other settings to see if it fixes the popping. If not, I'm not really sure what else to do.
[07:03] <ForgeAus> uh how do I do that?
[07:03] <RoKFiT> i believe i've tried every combination of settings
[07:03] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: i see, well obviously i would start looking for a Dutch version but that is only because i know there are pre-build translations, so i would check on that
[07:03] <ForgeAus> oh ok not me
[07:04] <ForgeAus> lol
[07:04] <_kuja_> saw someone in here a day or two ago who seemed to know quite a bit about alsa though. I forget who that was though.
[07:04] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: but i am a person who tends to scan his own mind from time to time
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> goodthing: well no the problem is FX doesn't take the locales of the user agent and send you to the right build
[07:04] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: neither does konqueror
[07:04] <RoKFiT> audio does not play with OSS selected
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> therefore, the problem was with the mozilla web page, not with the links on the wiki
[07:05] <_kuja_> it wouldn't, OSS is not installed
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> no that is a problem with the webpage, not the browser
[07:05] <RoKFiT> which package do I install for it?
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> the page should read the locale of the user agent, some pages are capable, like AIM does that
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> redirects you to the linux version of AIM by reading your user agent
[07:06] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: hmmm, nothing you can do about it other than mentioning the issue i guess
[07:06] <RoKFiT> _kuja_?
[07:06] <compilerwriter> ok Folks I just installed the openssh-server package now what do I do to fire it up?
[07:06] <_kuja_> well, it might work if you install alsa-oss, but I doubt you can really install the real oss, seeing as it's kernel module level
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> goodthing: nope it's nothing I can change
[07:06] <RoKFiT> so how does it ever get installed?
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> goodthing: thanks a lot for your help.
[07:07] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, OSS is the thing that existed before ALSA, it's deprecated and will likely be removed from the kernel someday
[07:07] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: and even if i change the browser identification in konqueror to add my language, it still directs to the US page
[07:07] <goodthing> n
[07:07] <RoKFiT> okay
[07:07] <goodthing> np
[07:07] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: so what else can i try?
[07:07] <matthew> compilerwriter, try sshd
[07:08] <matthew> compilerwriter, although, that might just fire up the ssh client...
[07:08] <_kuja_> Well, install alsa-oss and try the OSS setting again, be warned though, in my experience OSS was nothing but trouble.
[07:08] <RoKFiT> i just checked and it was installed, and it didn't work
[07:08] <Admiral_Chicago> goodthing: yes, because teh mozilla page does not take your locale at all
[07:08] <RoKFiT> it doesn't even play
[07:08] <compilerwriter> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[07:09] <goodthing> Admiral_Chicago: maybe they don' t even know about it?
[07:09] <dennister> anyone have a hauppauge 150 tuner working with a SA 2000 STB?
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe, I'll fire off an email
[07:09] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: what will fix this problem, what is the problem?
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> well i have to go study
[07:09] <enyawix> cool apache log analyzer?
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> !mythtv | dennister
[07:09] <ubotu> dennister: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> that might help
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> gotta run
[07:09] <compilerwriter> !ssh
[07:09] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:10] <dennister> Admiral_Chicago: thx, but i stay away from #mythtv-users
[07:10] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, I wish I knew the real root of the problem
[07:10] <goodthing> have a good one Admiral_Chicago
[07:10] <dennister> all the people there can do is criticise you for how you ask questions...I've got almost everything 100% perfect without their "help"
[07:10] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: do you have any ideas what the problem may be?
[07:11] <RoKFiT> am i running the wrong kernel?
[07:11] <RoKFiT> should i reinstall?
[07:11] <intelikey> dettoaltrimenti8
[07:11] <_kuja_> Perhaps a lousy driver? The configuration seems fine.
[07:12] <RoKFiT> will it update?
[07:12] <RoKFiT> should i reinstall it?
[07:12] <matthew> compilerwriter, no idea...sorry
[07:12] <_kuja_> No, I'm more curious as to what your onboard sound card, and your newly installed soundcard are
[07:12] <dennister> RoKFiT: r u thinking of reinstalling the whole linux installation?
[07:12] <_kuja_> lspci surely knows the answer to that
[07:13] <RoKFiT> yes, but this happened on fedora core 6
[07:13] <RoKFiT> onboard is nvidai ck804, sound card is creative sound audigy SE
[07:13] <RoKFiT> the second is for sure supported by alsa, i even looked it up
[07:13] <_kuja_> Hm, mine is the nvidia ck804 as well, which uses the snd_intel8x0 driver I believe ...
[07:14] <RoKFiT> are you on x86_64
[07:14] <_kuja_> Yes
[07:14] <dennister> why 2 sound cards? i have 0 problems with the onboard nvidiia ck804
[07:14] <RoKFiT> because i had problems and read to try a new sound card
[07:14] <RoKFiT> have*
[07:15] <RoKFiT> as one of the solutions
[07:15] <intelikey> dettoaltrimenti8 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37876/plain/    if you are interested...
[07:15] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, are you on 386/686 or x86_64?
[07:15] <_kuja_> Doubt it's the issue, but worth a try
[07:16] <RoKFiT> x86_64
[07:16] <RoKFiT> i think
[07:16] <RoKFiT> yeah, x86_64
[07:16] <intelikey> i think he's too busy reading man pages trying to learn how to do that...  to notice that it's done.    ;/
[07:16] <RoKFiT> thats the cd I installed
[07:16] <_kuja_> uname -m will tell you for sure. Oh, okay
[07:16] <RoKFiT> yeah, x86_64
[07:17] <_kuja_> Should be fine, I don't see why it would be popping though ... what motherboard do you have?
[07:17] <RoKFiT> should I be on 685
[07:17] <_kuja_> if you happen to know, anyway
[07:17] <RoKFiT> gigabyte ga-m55SLI-S4
[07:18] <dennister> RoKFiT: it's highly unlikely that that very new mobo or it's onboard sound is at fault
[07:18] <RoKFiT> i know, everything in windows works fine
[07:18] <dennister> if you are thinking of doing a new installation, forget 64-bit OS's that's only for windows
[07:19] <touchscreen> I'm trying to get my Aspen touchscreen to work with Kubuntu, but my limited driver knowledge of Linux is proving to be challenging. It connects VIA USB, and Aspen's site provides drivers for Mandrake, Fedora, and SUSE, but it isn't so kind as to tell us how to install them, or how to modify them for Ubuntu. Can someone please walk me through this? Thanks.
[07:19] <RoKFiT> dennister: why do you say that?
[07:19] <RoKFiT> just stick to 32bit?
[07:19] <intelikey> yeah why ?
[07:19] <_kuja_> I see one related thread mentioning that board and sound problems on the ubuntuforums, foudn it with google. it has no solution though ... I hate when posts go unanswered.
[07:19] <dennister> I have an Asus A8n32-SLI, with amd64 x2 3800+, and everything is better and easier with 32-bit linus OS's
[07:20] <intelikey> s/know/no/ ^
[07:20] <RoKFiT> the kernel?
[07:20] <_kuja_> and it only gets worse with time :O
[07:20] <dennister> i tried for months to get 64-bit OS's, in both windows and linux, to no avail...this pc is all top-of-line, bought while i was still a windows user and buying into their hype/push for more and more hardware
[07:21] <RoKFiT> i'd like to know the problem before i switch
[07:21] <dennister> it can handle vista, but I won't buy vista...I still use windows once in a while to see if hardware works there, then try to duplicate it in linux cause i'm still a linux noob
[07:22] <dennister> RoKFiT: i don't blame you...that's a good idea
[07:22] <reave|css> vista scares me....
[07:22] <RoKFiT> so where do i go with this problem
[07:22] <compilerwriter> _kuja_ how do I look to see if I have the opehssh daemon going?
[07:22] <reave|css> I am a privacy and drm freak..
[07:22] <_kuja_> ps -A | grep ssh
[07:22] <reave|css> I want Freedoms baby
[07:22] <_kuja_> maybe?
[07:22] <intelikey> RoKFiT kernel team.
[07:22] <matthew> ftw
[07:22] <RoKFiT> how do i contact them
[07:23] <dennister> reave|css: i'm with u 100%
[07:23] <intelikey> start in #kernel
[07:23] <shawn_home> abattoir: interesting!
[07:23] <_kuja_> Did I just hear the words drm and privacy in the same sentence? Without the words "lack of" preceding privacy?
[07:23] <shawn_home> abattoir: you can start an app and then lock it to the panel, then it stores it!
[07:23] <dennister> i'm here with linux precisely because of windows 'phoning home' and wga notify
[07:23] <shawn_home> now this is better
[07:24] <RoKFiT> no one is in the channel
[07:24] <RoKFiT> in time will a new kernel fix this problem most likely?
[07:24] <intelikey> start in ##kernel
[07:24] <matthew> dennister, had an "extra legal" version of windows?
[07:24] <intelikey> two #
[07:25] <reave|css> can linux only access fat/fat32 file systems?
[07:25] <matthew> _kuja_, omg, you did...I heard it too...
[07:25] <dennister> no, i didn't...have legal copies i bought shrinkwrapped, of xp, xp 64-bit edition, AND xp media center edition...still got locked out with all sorts of false positives
[07:25] <matthew> reave|css, there is limited support for NTFS
[07:25] <_kuja_> It can access FAT and NTFS both, as well as a slew of others.
[07:25] <intelikey> i forget from time to time that not all irc clients are as good at resolving # as bx is.
[07:26] <matthew> dennister, that sucks...I just got tired of all the restrictions...I'm too poor to buy windows...lol
[07:26] <RoKFiT> yeah no one is in that channel either
[07:26] <reave|css> can I install it on an ntfs partition?
[07:26] <intelikey> the dickens you say.
[07:26] <RoKFiT> and this is making me depressed
[07:26] <ForgeAus> grrr how do I get konqueror to save .deb's as files?
[07:26] <dennister> i'd even reinstalled xp mce so many times cd1 got physically cracked, and i went thru 6 weeks of hell from ms's obvious lies b4 i got a replacement disk...cause I could prove i was legal
[07:26] <bgsteffens> doesn't anyone know anything about coding with id3lib...?
[07:26] <_kuja_> reave, install what on an ntfs partition?
[07:26] <reave|css> kubuntu!
[07:26] <intelikey> RoKFiT on one server alone  "Users(##kernel:61"
[07:27] <_kuja_> No
[07:27] <reave|css> must be fat 32 eh?
[07:27] <RoKFiT> i mean no one is responding
[07:27] <matthew> reave|css, no, but you can install it on ext3
[07:27] <dennister> matthew: i'm poor too; my only income is the ontario disability support program (ie welfare)
[07:27] <_kuja_> can't install linux on a fat partition either.
[07:27] <intelikey> be patient
[07:27] <matthew> which is a really really good file system...
[07:27] <ForgeAus> it downloads thhem then complans they're binary :(
[07:27] <matthew> dennister, wow...that _really_ sucks...
[07:27] <_kuja_> ext3/2, xfs, jfs, reiserfs are your options.
[07:27] <dennister> the only reason i have this expensive pc is i had to take my last employer to court, and got about 7K in a settlement
[07:27] <reave|css> ext3.. hrm...
[07:28] <RoKFiT> am I just unlucky or whats the deal?
[07:28] <ForgeAus> kuja hpfs?
[07:28] <RoKFiT> can I try another kernel?
[07:28] <_kuja_> is hpfs supported by the ubuntu installer?
[07:28] <ForgeAus> prolly not
[07:28] <dennister> i knew i would never have the resources to buy another pc again, so I bought more than i needed, for future-proofing
[07:28] <reave|css> I have a ide drive... lets call it c:  it has 15 gigs of space.. nothing on it..except a windows xp mbr.
[07:28] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, I doubt it will help, if FC6 has the same problem, seeing as it's a newer kernel than Edgy's.
[07:28] <dylan_> is anyone here familiar with the write() command for sending messages
[07:29] <intelikey> RoKFiT it was sujested that you try 32bit.  but if you don't make the problem known to the developers they wont fix it...     or if some one doesn't...
[07:29] <reave|css> i have a sata drive  d: and e: partitions.. d with winxp and e just data
[07:29] <ForgeAus> dylan, I think you need to be more specific
[07:29] <RoKFiT> will 32bit have a newer kernel?
[07:29] <reave|css> I plan to put kubuntu on c: drive
[07:29] <dennister> yes RoKFiT; use the 32-bit...64-bit isn't worth the hassles
[07:29] <e1mer> dylan_: write user
[07:30] <RoKFiT> how will i know if there is a solution
[07:30] <dylan_> ForgeAus write "user" [tty]  allows u to send a message to a user
[07:30] <dennister> yes RoKFiT, i have the 2.6.17 edgy kernel
[07:30] <intelikey> RoKFiT go to the kernel.org site and check.
[07:30] <dylan_> elmer> it says i havemessages turned off
[07:30] <matthew> reave|css, under linux, there is no C drive...its title is hda or hda1
[07:30] <ForgeAus> how do I install a tarball?
[07:30] <matthew> reave|css, just so you know
[07:30] <_kuja_> or sda ...
[07:31] <matthew> _kuja_, well, yeah....
[07:31] <intelikey> ForgeAus tarball of what ?
[07:31] <matthew> or fd0...lol
[07:31] <_kuja_> ForgeAus: usually involves ./configure && make && sudo make install
[07:31] <ForgeAus> ie I'm downloading firefox and itsa  tar.gz file (instead of a .deb package)
[07:31] <RoKFiT> how to i check my kernel
[07:31] <matthew> RoKFiT, did you just download it or the one you are running?
[07:31] <ForgeAus> kuja that doesn't sound like too much fun
[07:31] <intelikey> ForgeAus why are you downloading a tarball of firefox ?
[07:31] <RoKFiT> the one i'm running
[07:32] <matthew> RoKFiT, I don't know.
[07:32] <ForgeAus> why not?
[07:32] <linux8> halo, i need to help again
[07:32] <RoKFiT> kernel --version
[07:32] <intelikey> ForgeAus use the package manager and just install it.
[07:32] <ForgeAus> konquerer is kewl but it doesn't let me save .deb's
[07:32] <intelikey> uname -r
[07:32] <_kuja_> how about uname -a
[07:32] <ForgeAus> package manager? how do I do that?
[07:32] <RoKFiT> 2.6.17-10-generic
[07:32] <_kuja_> ForgeAus, it should let you ....
[07:32] <intelikey> yep
[07:32] <matthew> RoKFiT, oh, I thought you meant for consistency....my bad
[07:32] <e1mer> dylan_: try `mesg y` first
[07:33] <ForgeAus> kuja it seems to try to open them and then complains they're binary files
[07:33] <linux8> my canon pixmaIP1000 still can't to work
[07:33] <RoKFiT> could I upgrade my kernel from the site?
[07:33] <dennister> use: uname -r
[07:33] <intelikey> !adept | ForgeAus
[07:33] <ubotu> ForgeAus: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:33] <dennister> which kernel r u using now?
[07:33] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, I'd post something about your problem on ubuntuforums.org, and perhaps think about filing a bug report on launchpad.net
[07:33] <ForgeAus> oh I'm  running adept
[07:33] <ForgeAus> its updating stuff
[07:33] <intelikey> !synaptic | ForgeAus
[07:33] <ubotu> ForgeAus: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:34] <ForgeAus> very slow
[07:34] <ForgeAus> synaptic?
[07:34] <_kuja_> ForgeAus: right click, save link as ...
[07:34] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: and my problem being the kernel related to sound
[07:34] <RoKFiT> how would you describe my problem?
[07:34] <_kuja_> I would describe it as a sound/alsa problem.
[07:34] <intelikey> !firefox | ForgeAus
[07:34] <ubotu> ForgeAus: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:34] <ForgeAus> kuja thats what I thought but it only saves a 3k file so the only problem is it isn't a direct link
[07:35] <ForgeAus> I'm using Kubuntu not just Ubuntu
[07:35] <tamacracker> guys..
[07:35] <matthew> ForgeAus, it's the same
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ForgeAus: works for it as well,
[07:35] <tamacracker> what can i use to ping my connection?
[07:35] <intelikey> ForgeAus as if there were a differance ?
[07:35] <_kuja_> ForgeAus, I hate those types of links ... I've found that Konqueror sometimes does that to me too, I'm not sure why.
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> i know, i wrote some of it
[07:35] <matthew> ForgeAus, just a different desktop Environment and default packages.
[07:35] <matthew> tamacracker, ping
[07:35] <matthew> lol
[07:36] <matthew> tamacracker, ping www.google.com
[07:36] <tamacracker> ...
[07:36] <tamacracker> ubuntu
[07:36] <tamacracker> came with networking tools.
[07:36] <tamacracker> kubuntu doesn't
[07:36] <ForgeAus> well kdevelop is 7.7meg or so, and when I d/l it as a .deb it saves as 3k.. .thats not right...
[07:36] <dennister> ta
[07:36] <matthew> tamacracker, what do you mean? Just go into a command prompt and type in ping www.google.com.
[07:36] <ForgeAus> if I just let it follow the link it actualyl  downloads the .deb but once done tries to run it as a text file in the browser window :(....
[07:37] <matthew> oooh, an earthquake just happened
[07:37] <ForgeAus> then complains its a binary file
[07:37] <matthew> ForgeAus, rightclick -> save link as
[07:37] <RoKFiT> can i update from kernel.org
[07:37] <ForgeAus> matthew was it bad or just a small one?
[07:37] <dennister> where matthew?
[07:37] <matthew> ForgeAus, small
[07:37] <matthew> dennister, Northern California, USA
[07:37] <ForgeAus> matthew I just goth thrrrough saying that saves a 3k file
[07:37] <intelikey> ForgeAus ubuntu can become kubuntu and kubuntu can become ubuntu  as far as the installed packages are concerned.   they are the same distro just different default package lists.
[07:37] <dennister> no RoKFiT
[07:37] <tamacracker> matthew... i'd like to ping another computer, not a website.
[07:37] <matthew> ForgeAus, sorry
[07:37] <tamacracker> like
[07:37] <matthew> tamacracker, ping IPADDRESS
[07:37] <tamacracker> more than once.
[07:38] <ForgeAus> hee hits ok
[07:38] <intelikey> ForgeAus when it opens it in the window click file > saveas
[07:38] <matthew> tamacracker, ping 192.168.0.6
[07:38] <ForgeAus> how about Xubnutu :)?:)
[07:38] <dylan_> you can ping the host name too
[07:38] <RoKFiT> well s.o.b.
[07:38] <intelikey> ForgeAus yes same.
[07:38] <matthew> s.o.b?
[07:38] <RoKFiT> this is depressing
[07:38] <dennister> lol & roflmao @ RoKFiT
[07:38] <matthew> dennister, in a nice way, right?
[07:38] <ForgeAus> inteli you   can do that?
[07:39] <ForgeAus> ok I'll try
[07:39] <dennister> yes, most defintely in a nice way :)
[07:39] <RoKFiT> so why does only some audio pop
[07:39] <ForgeAus> hmmm is there a download manager for konqueror?
[07:39] <dennister> poor RoKFiT, i'm only teasing...u'll get the hang of it, i'm still a noob 4 months after starting
[07:40] <RoKFiT> i'm just hoping this updates to a fix
[07:40] <RoKFiT> it's more than annoying at the least
[07:40] <_kuja_> Hmm, that was interesting ... I set the time to sync with a server, it synced ...... and that crashed amarok o.O
[07:40] <dennister> RoKFiT: only download from the repos and highly recommended sites like the saveas site i gave you
[07:40] <matthew> It took me about a year to get comfy w/ linux...and I still don't know much...just the basics...
[07:40] <intelikey> ForgeAus built-in   settings configure konqueror    web browsing   has options to select...
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> i've been using it a year, pretty easy to use imo
[07:41] <RoKFiT> k
[07:41] <dennister> i use the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel, the newest (edgy) on my 64-bit system that sounds very similar to yours, but I don't try 64-bit anymore
[07:41] <RoKFiT> why
[07:42] <matthew> dennister, I'm using the same one, only cause I can't find a newer one that is configured for the 686
[07:42] <dennister> if you're going to do a new installation, use the 32-bit that i do, but take the second sound card out
[07:42] <matthew> not configured, optimized
[07:42] <RoKFiT> dennister: you think this will fix it?
[07:42] <_kuja_> If I remember right, the generic kernel in 32-bit land is a 686 kernel
[07:42] <intelikey> hehhe i only have... dpkg -l | grep -ce ^ii
[07:42] <intelikey> 190
[07:42] <intelikey> packages installed.
[07:43] <matthew> _kuja_, really? huh, what do you know about that...lol
[07:43] <RoKFiT> and the 64bit kernel is not a 686?
[07:43] <dennister> matthew: what's the difference between configured and optimized?
[07:43] <matthew> I'm not sure, but I meant optimized...
[07:44] <matthew> I think configured (to me) means I have to tweak it, while optimized means it is already tweaked...no, that doesn't make sense either...lol
[07:44] <dennister> RoKFiT: i forget now which numbers are associated with the 64bit...it's been weeks now for me since i left that behind
[07:44] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, the x86_64 generic kernel isn't much different from the 686, I would assume
[07:44] <_kuja_> matthew: I just like to know things.
[07:44] <dennister> i just refuse to bother with 64-bit stuff
[07:44] <RoKFiT> the 64 will just update eventually
[07:44] <intelikey> matthew configured means will work    optimized means can't get more effecient without recoding....
[07:45] <RoKFiT> what's really wrong with the 64bit world?
[07:45] <_kuja_> Which reminds me I have a 64-bit faq to write and a script/program to finish
[07:45] <matthew> intelikey, very good
[07:45] <matthew> _kuja_, yeah, me too
[07:45] <matthew> RoKFiT, lack of drivers and apps
[07:45] <weedar> I wonder how long until they stop producing 32-bit processors
[07:45] <dennister> leave it to intelikey :)
[07:45] <RoKFiT> in time it will change
[07:45] <RoKFiT> and quickly
[07:45] <_kuja_> weedar, they more or less already have
[07:45] <_kuja_> the intel core 2 processors are 64-bit
[07:46] <weedar> _kuja_: ah, I thought they were still 32-bit
[07:46] <matthew> I think all modern (last year or so) processors are 64-bit
[07:46] <_kuja_> and their only major competitor has been 64-bit for quite a while ...
[07:46] <dennister> RoKFiT: in a way, yes, but i'm now willing to wait until 64-bit are better supported b4 i waste more of my time
[07:46] <_kuja_> the intel core duo processors aren't 64-bit ...
[07:46] <weedar> I guess 64-bit support needs to quickly become more mature then
[07:46] <_kuja_> the pentium D's were
[07:46] <_kuja_> Celeron D's weren't
[07:47] <_kuja_> with the exception of 1, if I remember right
[07:47] <RoKFiT> how often are kernels updated?
[07:47] <intelikey> while unconfigured would me extreemly generic and not set for any specifics   while something can be both unconfigured and optimized at the same time...   so go figure.
[07:47] <dennister> weedar: yes, and the mainstream hardware manufacturers need to all release 64-bit drivers
[07:47] <RoKFiT> and does a new kernel mean a fresh install?
[07:47] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, I've been using linux from 2 years, and in that time, we've progressed from about 2.6.8 to 2.6.19
[07:48] <_kuja_> And my english seems to die in chat rooms, I meant for, not from
[07:48] <dennister> my lg superdirve still doesn't have a 64-bit driver...and it's a very popular drive
[07:48] <intelikey> dennister no.  they need to all opensource their 64bit code
[07:48] <_kuja_> or rather, for about, to correct my correction
[07:48] <RoKFiT> and 32bit world is going to cure this problem?
[07:48] <dennister> intelikey: yes, but lg haven't even released one for windows, either
[07:49] <_kuja_> using 32-bit on 64-bit systems is only a bandaid, and sometimes not even a very good bandaid.
[07:49] <RoKFiT> i'll wait, hey guys thanks for the help, i'll be back later.
[07:49] <_kuja_> see ya
[07:49] <RoKFiT> bye
[07:49] <dennister> no probs RoKFiT :)
[07:49] <dennister> too late
[07:49] <intelikey> dennister so if they opensourse the 64bit code any os can make a driver for it.  right ?
[07:50] <_kuja_> Fat  Chance of any of that happening. hah
[07:50] <billytwowilly> so in the edgy installer reiserfs isn't an option anymore. How do I select reiser anyway?
[07:50] <dennister> yes intelikey
[07:50] <billytwowilly> and if I can't use reiser what should I use?
[07:50] <_kuja_> billytwowilly, xfs, jfs, and ext3 are perfectly reasonable options
[07:51] <weedar> I was actually surprised to find that a computer I recently installed both windows and linux that linux was the one that supported all the hardware "out of the box" - windows couldn't find drivers for the soundcard, ethernet card or the video adapter
[07:51] <dennister> that would be the best solution, but of course if they haven't bothered to write one for even the most common OS...
[07:51] <intelikey> billytwowilly if the installer doesn't allow for it then you'd have to install some other way.    but why not ext ?
[07:51] <weedar> dennister: so if there is no linux or windows driver, how on earth can you use it?
[07:52] <billytwowilly> reiser has been way better to me than ext3.
[07:52] <intelikey> weedar would you mind repeting that in ##windows   :)
[07:52] <_kuja_> if you have a reasonably fast computer, xfs is pretty snappy
[07:52] <dennister> u can't use the drive in 64-bit windows, i could use it in dapper 64-bit
[07:53] <weedar> intelikey: I think I did a while ago, the silence was deafening ;)
[07:53] <dennister> it was because i couldn't get the lg superdrive to go into dma mode in 64-bit xp that I bought the second winblows OS (media center edition) in the first place
[07:53] <intelikey> lol
[07:54] <dennister> oh, and the tuner was a problem in 64-bit winblows, too
[07:55] <dennister> of course THAT tuner sill simply not work under linux (ATI) so i had to buy the second hauppauge tuner for linux...lol
[07:56] <weedar> you must have a lot of unused hardware dennister :)
[07:56] <dennister> heheheh...not really...lots of unused software actually
[07:57] <dennister> if i can do the last 2% of getting the hauppauge to control my digital STB, AND quit my volunteer job at Imagine Canada, then I can (hopefully) never use winblows again
[07:58] <dennister> and i'll try to sell the ATI tuner to someone who has a spare PCIeX1 slot
[07:59] <Chani> billytwowilly: I always set up my partitions with knoppix and then tell the distro to just use the partitions I've given it
[07:59] <weedar> I have an exam in Windows Server today so I guess I'll be using windows forever, at least at work
[07:59] <weedar> At home I never use windows, except for learning to administrate windows servers and such
[07:59] <dennister> AND that person would have to be a dedicated windblows-only user...like my stubborn son who doesn't have the right motherboard
[08:00] <Chani> weedar: I don't *have* windows at home
[08:00] <Chani> all I have is kubuntu and gentoo :)
[08:00] <dennister> lol...
[08:00] <intelikey> yeah i use gentoo on ubuntu some times.....
[08:00] <intelikey> :)
[08:00] <dennister> weedar: insist on getting paid by the reboot :)
[08:00] <weedar> dennister: they'd go bankcrupt
[08:00] <Chani> dennister: LOL
[08:01] <intelikey> i used to use gentoo on mandrake a lot
[08:01] <Chani> hehe
[08:01] <dennister> hey...i used to be an IT headhunter in toronto...know a guy who used that policy...one of the best unix adminstrators in the city...and it's a big city here
[08:01] <Chani> anyways. time to reboot, and pray that my dist-upgrade and grub tweaks don't make anyhting explode
[08:02] <weedar> I'll cross my fingers for you Chani
[08:02] <dennister> good luck
[08:03] <Chani> :)
[08:03] <_kuja_> That's good news
[08:03] <dennister> i've actually been meaning to try gentoo as well, but still have that one challenge to overcome with kubuntu, aka mythtv and the STB
[08:04] <dennister> maybe in the new year, after i move house
[08:04] <weedar> I don't see the point with gentoo, if I understand it correctly you compile everything?
[08:04] <mariano> anyone has the link for multimedia setup
[08:04] <mariano> something that is not too difficult, i'm still somewhat new to linxu
[08:04] <mariano> linxu
[08:04] <mariano> twice in a row
[08:04] <mariano> oh yea
[08:04] <_kuja_> weedar, I'd say that makes it pretty darned flexible, but the setup process supposedly takes ages
[08:05] <Chani> dennister: gentoo requires free time and patience. but it's a great experience. and #gentoo is full of great people
[08:05] <Chani> weedar: control. lots of control.
[08:05] <Chani> weedar: use flags ftw!
[08:05] <weedar> _kuja_: well sure that would optimize every program, but in my experience compiling isn't always as easy as you'd think
[08:05] <lakhia> and you can optimize it for 686 etc
[08:05] <dennister> yes, i like control...find there's still a lot of stuff on ubuntu i don't need
[08:06] <Chani> weedar: gentoo makes compiling easy
[08:06] <intelikey> tons
[08:06] <_kuja_> weedar: I've compiled plenty of things. It can be a headache at times, but I can usually force things to work ...
[08:06] <intelikey> dennister tons
[08:06] <dennister> and i've had to learn patience...being disabled i have time...will even be an empty-nester in a matter of weeks...hence the move to a smaller place
[08:06] <Chani> now that I'm on kubuntu I have to actually install tools before compiling stuff... such a hassle... ;)
[08:06] <_kuja_> Besides, emerge looks like a pretty decent tool.
[08:07] <Chani> _kuja_: damn right
[08:07] <dennister> my baby's leaving home! <whaa>
[08:07] <weedar> That I can agree with Chani
[08:07] <matthew> Chani, lol, yeah, it _so_ difficult
[08:07] <Chani> I love gentoo. I just don't have the time to maintain it any more
[08:07] <matthew> I wonder what would happen if you did sudo apt-get install *
[08:07] <lakhia> the think I hate most is running etc-update
[08:07] <weedar> dennister: get a pet? :)
[08:07] <Chani> lol
[08:07] <lakhia> :)
[08:07] <_kuja_> sudo apt-get install build-essential debconf debhelper fakeroot....... the first thing I do with any ubuntu installation :)
[08:07] <dennister> lol...i'm happy to get rid of my son's pet cat :)
[08:08] <Chani> lakhia: cron job, run at 3am. :)
[08:08] <dennister> if she wasn't so gorgeous, silky-soft, and affectionate, she'd a been dead years ago
[08:08] <Chani> hay, I'm supposed to be rebooting!
[08:08] <_kuja_> 3am, wouldn't that interfere with your late night work :P
[08:08] <lakhia> Chani: but I always have to select which version to keep ... and I was too lazy to try to automate it
[08:08] <_kuja_> Come to speak of it, almost 3am here :D
[08:08] <dennister> Chani: stop procrastrinating!
[08:09] <dennister> :)
[08:09] <lakhia> Chani: go ahead!
[08:09] <intelikey> etc-update ?
[08:09] <intelikey> who's that ?
[08:09] <dromer> how can I search for files on my cemputer? I can see the Search&Indexing-config but where can I actually search ?
[08:09] <dennister> i'm not gonna miss nagging my son to get up every morning, either
[08:09] <_kuja_> locate works well
[08:09] <_kuja_> so does find
[08:09] <lakhia> intelikey: yeah, if an emerge wants to touch a file in /etc, it will not overwrite it
[08:09] <dromer> that's in terminal ?
[08:09] <_kuja_> sure
[08:10] <_kuja_> you can also use locate:/ in konqueror
[08:10] <intelikey> dromer you can use find / -name <but the name here>
[08:10] <_kuja_> or how about find files/folders in the k-menu .... so many ways to find things :)
[08:10] <dromer> intelikey: why / -name ?
[08:10] <lakhia> intelikey: instead, it will create it as a backup and then one has to manually merge the files (if you made changes)
[08:10] <weedar> dennister: I'm not so sure, stuff like that has a tendency to become fond memories after a while
[08:10] <dennister> i should actually got to bed...gotta go into the office tomorrow and have it out with my boss...the accoutnant/supervisor who manages the volunteers and who doesn't like volunteers
[08:10] <dromer> _kuja_: I don't seet hat in the menu
[08:10] <intelikey> dromer ok  -iname if you like
[08:11] <_kuja_> Hmmmmm, it's in mine? Oh well
[08:11] <dromer> intelikey: why is that ?
[08:11] <lakhia> intelikey:  correction, 9 out of 10 times you simply want the updated file
[08:11] <_kuja_> I think it uses kfind
[08:11] <intelikey> dromer no particular reason.
[08:11] <dennister> lol...and she's in a charity who's core mission is to support volunteerism lol
[08:11] <dennister> good night all
[08:13] <intelikey> lakhia so you run another script to mv *.back to *   hmmm sounds like a bad day at calling scriptb from scripta to work on scriptc    to me.
[08:14] <lakhia> intelikey: well, etc-update is a script provided by gentoo that tries to automerge files. But it only has 2 version to compare (the installed one and the new one).
[08:14] <sikun> i have kubuntu on my laptop, and i've noticed.. the cpu fan doesn't turn on
[08:14] <lakhia> intelikey: so, it almost always asks the user to select which version they prefer
[08:15] <lakhia> intelikey: and then does the mv for you
[08:15] <sikun> i've noticed after about an hour of use.. it lags bad, then i shut it down for a while and let it cool, then it works better
[08:15] <draik> Partition question: If I ghost my hdd to another hdd (a bigger hdd), can I resize the partitions without corruption?
[08:15] <intelikey> lakhia then it sounds like emerge should automatically call etc-update...
[08:15] <metres> Hi there, do anyone have installed google earth on amd64 ? I have a libxml2 problem...
[08:15] <_kuja_> draik: depends which partition type you use?
[08:15] <lakhia> intelikey: it doesn't ... it simply tells you that you should run etc-update
[08:16] <_kuja_> should be doable
[08:16] <draik> _kuja_: NTFS, Ext3, Swap
[08:16] <lakhia> intelikey: probably because the emerge process is fairy automated and etc-update needs interaction
[08:16] <_kuja_> I wouldn't dare try to resize an XFS partition though, I have had nightmarish experiences with that.
[08:17] <draik> I'm on a 250GB hdd right now, and I want to go to 700+ GB hdd
[08:18] <rizwaan> .deb files are opened with kate from konqueror..
[08:19] <rizwaan> try this with konqueror http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/opera/linux/910/final/en/i386/shared/opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[08:19] <intelikey> i'd settel for 20g
[08:19] <stdin> rizwaan: right-click & Save As
[08:19] <goodthing> draik: i can recommend the seagate's barracuda 7200.10 line, they are FAST
[08:19] <goodthing> though they can get a little warm
[08:19] <rizwaan> kde-apps, opera and many sites do not allow "right-click" save as option
[08:20] <intelikey> or when it opens it just use the menu   file > save as
[08:20] <goodthing> ehh, *hot
[08:21] <draik> intelikey: I think that I have a 20GB lying around somewhere
[08:21] <draik> not sure though
[08:21] <intelikey> or does it hurt your eyes to see the text of a .deb
[08:21] <rizwaan> it annoys me.. i would want to save it not read it.. ;)
[08:21] <intelikey> draik i don't really need more space.  thanks for the offer
[08:21] <Chani> well, nothing exploded...
[08:22] <rizwaan> i'm using feisty..
[08:22] <intelikey> this box has 8 drives but the largest is 4.5g
[08:22] <draik> intelikey: np
[08:22] <goodthing> Chani: wait until the kids get behind it
[08:22] <Chani> kdm and knetworkmanager are broken.
[08:22] <billytwowilly> heh. You guys frustrate the crap out of me sometimes. Who is the smart guy that took out the panel selector for configuring panels in KDE?
[08:23] <Chani> I had to use startx and dhclient
[08:23] <draik> I have 3 hdd: 250GB 250GB 80GB
[08:23] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 689/3035MB, 104 proc's, 35.14min up
[08:23] <draik> hmmm... no hdd
[08:23] <draik> *no hdd shown
[08:23] <intelikey> billytwowilly right click the pannel
[08:24] <draik> I have no GRUB right now. Would anyone know how to bring it back?
[08:24] <draik> Nothing loads. My hdd sits there doing nothing
[08:24] <billytwowilly> intelikey: yah, I do, I select configure panel and it puts me in the panel configuration menu. Except the drop down menu at the top to select the panel to configure is gone and the panel configurator defaults to the original panel to configure.
[08:24] <goodthing> draik: with the super grub boot disk
[08:25] <draik> goodthing: I tried... nothing
[08:25] <intelikey> sudo grub-install /dev/<devicenode>
[08:25] <draik> goodthing: That's actually how I'm able to get in to my Kubuntu partition
[08:25] <draik> intelikey: devicenode?
[08:25] <draik> hd0,5?
[08:26] <intelikey> billytwowilly you don't have things locked to a pannel do you ?   can't config a locked pannel i don't think.
[08:26] <intelikey> draik then hda most probably
[08:26] <intelikey> err hdb
[08:26] <notech> hd0 woud be hda
[08:27] <intelikey> notech no hd0 would be the first recognized hd in the box
[08:27] <billytwowilly> intelikey: It's not locked. I did a default kubuntu edgy install, then this is my first boot and I right clicked on the main panel and selected "add new panel" and then "Panel". This is where I am now.
[08:27] <draik> ok
[08:27] <intelikey> notech grub is stupid that way
[08:27] <billytwowilly> Is there any way to turn off all the dumbing down you guys do to kde without switching to debian?
[08:27] <notech> intelikey: wouldn't that normally be hda?
[08:27] <draik> no, hda is correct
[08:27] <draik> restart?
[08:27] <_kuja_> billytowilly, uninstall the kubuntu-default-settings package
[08:28] <intelikey> notech normal in what box ?
[08:28] <notech> intelikey: what determines first recognized?
[08:28] <goodthing> soory draik, other than that disk i am not experienced with installing grub, but intelikey could help :)
[08:28] <intelikey> notech on many it would be sda
[08:28] <draik> Mine is set to hda
[08:28] <draik> intelikey: restart?
[08:28] <draik> I ran "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[08:30] <intelikey> notech "what determines first recognized?"  best i can determine bios addressing  0x80 0x81 0x82....  if the box has one hd and it's on secondary ide master   then 0x80 is /dev/hdc   so grub says /dev/hdc = (hd0)
[08:31] <notech> intelikey: gotcha
[08:31] <intelikey> draik it's your box.  restart as you like.
[08:32] <intelikey> i don't at all like grub   and can't even use it on the system i have setup here
[08:32] <notech> i haven't used grub in many years
[08:32] <_kuja_> why's that intelikey?
[08:32] <intelikey> it's too week to boot this box
[08:32] <notech> surprised i remember any of it
[08:33] <intelikey> it depends on bios   if bios can't boot it then grub can't.
[08:33] <bgsteffens> anyone know of a program that can take an mp3 without full id3 info and fill in the rest?
[08:34] <intelikey> or maybe i should rephrase "if bios can't read it then grub can't boot it"
[08:34] <intelikey> bgsteffens why not use ogg ?
[08:34] <goodthing> bgsteffens: easytag
[08:35] <bgsteffens> tyty
[08:35] <intelikey> !freeformats
[08:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:35] <touchscreen> Can someone recommend me a generic touchscreen driver to work with linux? I know my particular monitor is unsupported.
[08:35] <bgsteffens> intellikey: i screwed up my old windows storage drive, did a raw format, and got back 40 thousand mp3 files without filenames
[08:35] <bgsteffens> intellikey: i wrote a program to sort them by their id3 tags but only about half had enough information
[08:35] <intelikey> lol
[08:36] <_kuja_> amarok isn't half bad for tagging ...
[08:36] <intelikey> touchscreen why generic?    but the kernel has modules.
[08:37] <draik> intelikey: No dice
[08:37] <draik> nothing
[08:37] <ubuntu> salut
[08:38] <touchscreen> How do I activate them? It didn't autodetect my USB touchscreen monitor...
[08:38] <unix_infidel> usb touchscreen monitor?
[08:38] <draik> touchscreen: What USB touchscreen device do you have? I have been looking for something myself
[08:38] <unix_infidel> your monitor runs on 900mW?
[08:38] <unix_infidel> wtf>?
[08:39] <touchscreen> My monitor has it's power supply that plugs in and a USB cord to run to the back of the computer
[08:39] <intelikey> touchscreen modprobe          drivers are in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/touchscreen/  if you need to look.
[08:39] <touchscreen> It's an Aspen 15 inch ATM draik, but before you rush out to buy one.. let me see if it works LOL
[08:40] <touchscreen> Okay, so I just modprobe a driver out of that path intelikey
[08:40] <touchscreen> ?
[08:40] <draik> touchscreen: I have a 19" that I wish was touch screen
[08:40] <intelikey> draik so like i first said /dev/<devicenode>    cat /boot/gruh/device*
[08:41] <notech> draik: you sure the bios is set to boot to that drive?
[08:41] <sikun> my processor is now running @ 145 degrees.. how can i manually turn the cpu fan on?
[08:41] <intelikey> touchscreen yes   and if you get the right one it should actually work  :)
[08:41] <draik> Yup. HDD boots after cd rom
[08:41] <draik> intelikey: cat /boot/grub/device*?
[08:42] <goodthing> lol, i install fedora and it immediately comes with an error message: no PSB or ACPI  _PSS objects
[08:42] <touchscreen> And do I need to unmodprobe them or something if they don't or does it just clean them out itself?
[08:42] <goodthing> ah well, it boots
[08:42] <intelikey> draik yes
[08:42] <draik> ok... here you go...
[08:42] <draik> (hd0)   /dev/hda
[08:42] <draik> (hd1)   /dev/hdb
[08:42] <draik> (hd2)   /dev/sda
[08:42] <draik> sorry for the mini flood
[08:42] <Chani> ever since the dist-upgrade I've been getting a lot of this:
[08:42] <Chani> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[08:43] <intelikey> touchscreen you find the one that works and add it to the list in /etc/modules  (which is probably blank atm)
[08:43] <intelikey> then at boot it will automatically load it for you.
[08:44] <touchscreen> Okay, so modprobe them until one works, then copy and paste to /etc/modules? It's really that easy?
[08:44] <intelikey> draik ok and you have bios set to boot from first ide master  correct ?
[08:44] <draik> touchscreen: Please document your steps. I want to see them once you're done so that I can get an idea of what I'm dealing with. Thank you.
[08:44] <j_> amarok doesn't seem to scan all the folders it's supposed to?
[08:44] <draik> intelikey: Correct
[08:45] <touchscreen> No problem draik, if I get them working, I'll even post a howto on the forums..
[08:45] <intelikey> draik and you ran    sudo grub-install /dev/hda    and it returned without error ?
[08:45] <j_> namely, I have some files on a ntfs drive, these it gets, and then some in home folder, which amarok fails to add to the collection
[08:45] <draik> touchscreen: Thank you. Much appreciated
[08:45] <draik> intelikey: Correct
[08:45] <draik> no error
[08:46] <intelikey> hmmm   you may need some that actually uses grub to help with that ......
[08:46] <tamacracker> hey guys
[08:47] <intelikey> draik and at boot time it does exactly what ?
[08:47] <draik> 
[08:47] <tamacracker> how can i manually mount and unmount my windows partition so that i can transfer files back and forth when needed?
[08:47] <draik> ^^That's what it does
[08:47] <draik> nothing
[08:47] <unix_infidel> tamacracker: uhh, mount and umount
[08:47] <draik> !ntfs | tamacracker
[08:47] <ubotu> tamacracker: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:48] <tamacracker> yeah unix
[08:48] <intelikey> have you let that set for 20 seconds to see if anything timed out ?
[08:48] <tamacracker> like insted of my linux mountin my ntfs drive automatically when it starts, i wanna be able to do that
[08:48] <draik> I have left it for about 5 minutes yesterday
[08:48] <tamacracker> so i have less chance of ruining my windows partition.
[08:49] <notech> fuse allowss writing to ntfs?
[08:49] <draik> sorry, not yesterday but saturday... either way, past 20s
[08:49] <unix_infidel> is digg down for anyone else?
[08:49] <intelikey> draik i mean after you did the grub-install command ?
[08:49] <draik> notech: I would assume so. It allows you to do so in Knoppix 5+
[08:49] <notech> reliably?
[08:50] <draik> intelikey: Sorry, I didn't count, but I would assume about 20-25s
[08:50] <intelikey> draik k
[08:50] <notech> or is it considered experimental?
[08:50] <draik> notech: I don't know about safe it is, but it does it.
[08:50] <tamacracker> draik i dont wanna automatically mount my drive, i'd like to manually do it when ever i can just to access my windows files.
[08:50] <draik> notech: /j knoppix
[08:50] <touchscreen> Okay intelikey, I've sudo modprobed everything in the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/touchscreen/ dir and all didn't do anything..
[08:50] <intelikey> draik so was there any "writing stage***" messages on the grub-install command ?
[08:51] <draik> intelikey: don't think so... let me do it again
[08:51] <intelikey> touchscreen lsmod | head    will tell you what took
[08:52] <touchscreen> mtouch                  5376  0
[08:52] <touchscreen> gunze                   5248  0
[08:52] <touchscreen> elo                     6016  0
[08:52] <touchscreen> ads7846                11136  0
[08:52] <touchscreen> binfmt_misc            13448  1
[08:52] <touchscreen> rfcomm                 42260  0
[08:52] <touchscreen> l2cap                  27136  5 rfcomm
[08:52] <touchscreen> bluetooth              53476  4 rfcomm,l2cap
[08:52] <touchscreen> speedstep_lib           5764  0
[08:52] <touchscreen> Sorry about the flood, that's what I got
[08:53] <intelikey> mtouch is installed.
[08:53] <touchscreen> mtouch, gunze, elo, ad7846 are all in the touchscreen dir
[08:53] <tamacracker> is Fuse a good option to use?
[08:53] <tamacracker> so i can access my ntfs drive?
[08:53] <tamacracker> to transfer files back and forth?
[08:53] <draik> intelikey:
[08:53] <draik> Installation finished. No error reported.
[08:53] <draik> This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.
[08:53] <draik> Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
[08:53] <draik> fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
[08:53] <touchscreen> It works tamacracker
[08:54] <tamacracker> will i be able to unmount the drive so i dont end up ruining my ntfs partition?
[08:54] <draik> intelikey: After that it just lists my hd0, hd1 and hd2
[08:54] <tamacracker> ack Fuse did read only
[08:55] <touchscreen> yeah tamacracker, you should check ubuntuforums.org, they've got a great howto on how to do it. Works wonderfully and gives read write access to it
[08:55] <intelikey> draik grep -v'#' /boot/grub/menu.lst | less     and see what's in it
[08:55] <tamacracker> it just did read-only access
[08:56] <tamacracker> NTFS drives will be mounted read-only!
[08:56] <goodthing> hmm, i can' t say i like gnome but fedora's sure has done a good job on configuring the default gnome
[08:56] <touchscreen> intelikey: if the modprobe worked, should it have a number aside from 0 under the used by?
[08:56] <tamacracker> Not enabling experimental NTFS write support
[08:56] <matthew> goodthing, I love KDE
[08:56] <matthew> so much better
[08:56] <draik> intelikey: anything specific in '#'?
[08:57] <intelikey> touchscreen no that tells you how many other modules are depending on/using that module
[08:57] <goodthing> matthew: me too, but i needed to install it for some test
[08:57] <matthew> goodthing, bummer!
[08:57] <matthew> lol
[08:57] <intelikey> draik lol
[08:57] <intelikey> grep -v'#' /boot/grub/menu.lst | less
[08:57] <touchscreen> so if any of the modprobes show up, that's the right one to use? because as of now, after the mod probing, nothing's worked on the touchscreen part
[08:58] <draik> intelikey: I typed that and this is what I got
[08:58] <draik> grep: invalid option -- #
[08:58] <draik> Usage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ...
[08:58] <draik> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[08:58] <touchscreen> Hold up tamacracker, I'll get you the link
[08:58] <intelikey> put a space in it.
[08:58] <intelikey> grep -v '#' /boot/grub/menu.lst | less
[08:58] <tamacracker> thanks touchscreen :D
[08:58] <intelikey> i forgot that bash now complains about that
[08:59] <draik> ok
[08:59] <draik> what do I need to look for?
[08:59] <intelikey> lines with vmlinuz  and the such like
[08:59] <touchscreen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs+write follow that tama..
[08:59] <draik> ok
[09:00] <intelikey> just make sure that it's setup to boot your system
[09:00] <draik> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic
[09:00] <draik> root            (hd0,5)
[09:00] <draik> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash
[09:00] <draik> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:00] <draik> quiet
[09:00] <draik> savedefault
[09:00] <draik> boot
[09:00] <intelikey> yep
[09:00] <draik> that's what I've always had
[09:00] <intelikey> k
[09:00] <draik> no idea why nothing happens
[09:00] <touchscreen> I'm going to copy these modprobes into the bootup dir and pray to allah that one of them works
[09:01] <intelikey> not really.   i'm still thinking you are actually booting another disk.
[09:01] <draik> shouldn't be
[09:01] <intelikey> sudo grub-install /dev/hdb
[09:01] <tamacracker> touchscreen
[09:01] <tamacracker> am i better off using ext3?
[09:01] <touchscreen> I use XFS and love it tamacracker :D
[09:01] <draik> ok
[09:02] <intelikey> sudo grub-install /dev/hdc
[09:02] <tamacracker> whoa touchscreen, im sunni :D
[09:02] <tamacracker> XFS?
[09:02] <draik> intelikey: /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[09:02] <intelikey> sudo grub-install /dev/hdd
[09:02] <draik> intelikey: /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[09:03] <draik> err... hdd
[09:03] <intelikey> now reboot
[09:03] <draik> ok... brb
[09:03] <intelikey> if it works you are booting hdb
[09:03] <tamacracker> touchscreen... is that the file extension?
[09:03] <tamacracker> XFS?
[09:04] <touchscreen> No, XFS is a filesystem just like ext3 and NTFS
[09:04] <intelikey> xfs is X file system
[09:04] <tamacracker> ah so it's specifically for ntfs
[09:04] <tamacracker> is that stable
[09:04] <tamacracker> or more reliable than ext3 and ntfs-g3
[09:05] <tamacracker> 3g*
[09:05] <touchscreen> No no tamacracker, ntfs isn't "officially" supported.
[09:05] <touchscreen> XFS and ext3 are linux supported file systems
[09:05] <dave_> hey could somone please help me i am only new to kubuntu and i don't know how to instrall wine or the mp3 codecs
[09:05] <touchscreen> xfs is stable and faster than ext3
[09:05] <vge> !realplayer
[09:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:05] <touchscreen> but less quick than ReiserFS
[09:05] <tamacracker> in order to use xfs, do i need to reformat my operating system?
[09:05] <intelikey> !wine | Dave_
[09:05] <ubotu> Dave_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:06] <intelikey> !mp3 | Dave_
[09:06] <ubotu> Dave_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:06] <intelikey> !repos | Dave_
[09:06] <ubotu> Dave_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:07] <intelikey> book mark them you'll need them all most likely dave_
[09:07] <intelikey> !sudo | dave_
[09:07] <ubotu> dave_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:07] <tamacracker> touchscreen, may i get the link to mount my ntfs drive using XFS?
[09:07] <ricky> hi everybody
[09:08] <tamacracker> for read/write accesss.
[09:08] <intelikey> !ntfs | tamacracker
[09:08] <ubotu> tamacracker: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:08] <ricky> someone can help me with bluetooth ? I've tested, searching on web, and changed the config files, but nothing, i can't put/get files on my phone
[09:08] <intelikey> !fuse | tamacracker
[09:08] <ubotu> tamacracker: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:09] <_kuja_> !ntfs3g
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <intelikey> !ntfs | #kubuntu
[09:11] <ubotu> #kubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:11] <goodthing> _kuja_: cool, fedora boots with my disks, now lets see if it will mount behave like normal
[09:12] <_kuja_> Ooh, that's good news then
[09:12] <goodthing> indeed :) :)
[09:14] <tamacracker> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse <- does not let me write onto my ntfs drive
[09:14] <tamacracker> Can someone help me to mount my ntfs drive so that it is write-able.. it's currently readable only.
[09:15] <intelikey> tamacracker what's the address and mountpoint ?
[09:15] <matthew> !ntfscapture
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfscapture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <matthew> !ntfs capture
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs capture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <matthew> !ntfs-capture
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-capture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <matthew> !ntfs_capture
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs_capture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <intelikey> tamacracker ?
[09:15] <matthew> tamacracker, try ntfs capture
[09:16] <tamacracker>   /media/hda1
[09:16] <intelikey> k
[09:16] <tamacracker> hda1 being my ntfs drive
[09:16] <intelikey> sudo umount  /media/hda1
[09:16] <_kuja_> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ntfs-3g
[09:16] <tamacracker> ok it's unmounted
[09:17] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o dmask=000,fmask=111
[09:17] <tamacracker> ok
[09:17] <intelikey> your welcome.
[09:17] <tamacracker> oh
[09:17] <tamacracker> that's it?
[09:17] <tamacracker> is that how i manually mount and unmount my drive?
[09:17] <intelikey> it is.
[09:18] <tamacracker> :(
[09:18] <tamacracker> i can't write to it
[09:18] <intelikey> you can't ?
[09:18] <tamacracker> im tryin to paste my pictures onto my windows HD
[09:18] <tamacracker> nope
[09:18] <intelikey> ok do   mount     and pastebin the output
[09:18] <intelikey> !paste
[09:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:19] <tamacracker> ok
[09:19] <intelikey> use that pastebin please  ^
[09:19] <goodthing> oh, horny message: goodthing is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
[09:19] <tamacracker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37887/
[09:21] <intelikey> tamacracker according to line 13. /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw,dmask=000,fmask=111)   it's read/writable
[09:21] <tamacracker> hm...
[09:21] <intelikey> close the file manager and try again with a fresh instance.
[09:22] <tamacracker> i just tried to create a new folder through the edit option (right click menu doesn't have the option) and it would not let me create a new folder.
[09:22] <tamacracker> ok
[09:22] <tamacracker> negative.
[09:23] <intelikey> hmmm lets umount it again try one other thing
[09:23] <tamacracker> ok
[09:23] <intelikey> and close the filemanager while mounting
[09:23] <tamacracker> ok unmounted
[09:24] <tamacracker> and file manager is close
[09:24] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o umask=000,dmask=000,fmask=111
[09:24] <tamacracker> ok
[09:24] <tamacracker> should i check my mount?
[09:25] <intelikey> na just see if you can write to it
[09:25] <tamacracker> ok
[09:25] <touchscreen> Okay, i've modprobed everything in the touchscreen modules directory, restarted X, and still no touchscreen ability. My xorg.conf lists my monitor, but I don't think it's got the part that it's supposed to be a touchscreen. Any suggestions?
[09:25] <tamacracker> Could not make folder /media/hda1/New Folder.
[09:25] <intelikey> touchscreen you did add a device entry for touchscreen in the xorg.conf didn't you?
[09:26] <touchscreen> Not at all.. how do I do that?
[09:26] <intelikey> tamacracker that don't make sense...    try cli   mkdir /media/hda1/testing1
[09:27] <tamacracker> type in cli as part of that command?
[09:27] <j_> errm, adept won't start?
[09:27] <tamacracker> tamacracker@tamacracker:~$ mkdir /media/hda1/testing1
[09:27] <tamacracker> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/hda1/testing1': Read-only file system
[09:27] <intelikey> touchscreen i don't know the specifics on that but edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     you'll have to google the entry   but look at the wacom devices listed in the file for syntax examples
[09:27] <j_> it loads for a while and then nothing
[09:28] <j_> how do I install synaptic from shell?
[09:28] <intelikey> tamacracker sudo mkdir /media/hda1/testing2
[09:28] <j_> also, is synaptic then aware of the installed packages?
[09:28] <intelikey> j_ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:28] <tamacracker> lol intelikey
[09:28] <tamacracker> same message
[09:29] <intelikey> yes j_
[09:29] <tamacracker> it's a read only file system
[09:29] <j_> k
[09:29] <intelikey> tamacracker yep it's a real read only file system.
[09:29] <tamacracker> stupid mp3 player, only if my mp3 player could work linux
[09:29] <touchscreen> I've got them in there for the wacom.. so do I uncomment them, or do I have to find specifics?
[09:29] <tamacracker> then i'd never use windows
[09:30] <tamacracker> intelikey lol can i convert it into a read/write?
[09:30] <reave> how do I install opera in kubuntu.... I am a total noob
[09:30] <unix_infidel> touchscreen: did you google for your hardware first?
[09:30] <goodthing> reave: you have to add another repository to your sources.list file
[09:30] <unix_infidel> i doubt the wacom stuff will work with a touchscreen. its totally different hardware.
[09:30] <reave> I have the tar file on my desktop
[09:30] <touchscreen> Yeah.. but it's not "supported" per say. I'm just trying for a generic touchscreen for now
[09:30] <touchscreen> Just anything
[09:30] <tamacracker> reave you could have used adept manager
[09:30] <reave> oh ic
[09:31] <intelikey> touchscreen i'd  google.com/linux   search for touchscreen xorg   see what you can find  surely you're not the first to do this.
[09:31] <unix_infidel> touchscreen: sure then, give uncommenting the wacom stuff in xorg.conf a try.
[09:31] <unix_infidel> i'd ALSO google thoroughly for tablet pc stuff.
[09:31] <tamacracker> intelikey... is there any way i can make it into a writable hd?
[09:31] <unix_infidel> Hand recognition in linux SUCKS, but the touch screen stuff is fully functional.
[09:32] <goodthing> reave: google for source-o-matic and down on that page you'll find opera
[09:32] <intelikey> tamacracker i've never see one act the way yours is acting.
[09:32] <touchscreen> okay, but for reference, I'm not using xfree86 am I?
[09:32] <tamacracker> is there any way i can delete the HD
[09:32] <tamacracker> or something
[09:32] <intelikey> tamacracker pastebin the output of  fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:32] <tamacracker> ok
[09:32] <tamacracker> lol
[09:32] <tamacracker> cannot open
[09:33] <tamacracker> dev/hda
[09:33] <intelikey> sudo it
[09:33] <soon> Hi folks - I've lost my wifi connection .. new IBM T60, worked fine yesterday. ifconfig tells me I have: ath0, eth0. lo and wifi0-00  ... iwconfig tells me ath0 is only one with wireless extension ...
[09:33] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: are you here?
[09:33] <intelikey> touchscreen no xorg
[09:33] <goodthing> reave: though i have to say that konqueror is hard to beat, better than opera imho
[09:33] <soon> Im al little stuck ... not much of an network guru
[09:33] <tamacracker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37890/
[09:34] <soon> anyone knowledgable in network stuff?
[09:34] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: i wanted to ask what makes you believe it is the kernel that is at fault for my audio troubles
[09:34] <reave> goodthing... opera isnt avail in my adept manager
[09:34] <unix_infidel> touchscreen: no, if your using breezy or better you're using xorg
[09:34] <_kuja_> I said I figured it was the alsa driver, I never said it was the kernel.
[09:35] <goodthing> reave: that's because the servers in your file /etc/apt/sources.list do not have this package
[09:35] <touchscreen> Okay... found one for a 15 in touchscreen. Not exactly my monitor, but I found the xorg code. Just paste it in xorg.conf and modprobe the appropriate driver and restart X, right?
[09:35] <RoKFiT> oh
[09:35] <reave> heh.. okay...
[09:35] <goodthing> reave: you have to edit that file and add another source (repository)
[09:35] <intelikey> touchscreen the modeprobe is a one time thing.
[09:35] <j_> how do I create a shortcut to synaptic that asks for my password?
[09:35] <RoKFiT> when kde4 is released, will it be an update to kubuntu or a fresh install or a cd install?
[09:35] <tamacracker> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37890/
[09:35] <touchscreen> !paste
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:36] <intelikey> tama yes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37890/ is the same.
[09:36] <reave> just how do I do this goodthing?
[09:36] <intelikey> tamacracker i give up.
[09:36] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, it will be an additional set of packages at first
[09:36] <touchscreen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37891/ Mind looking at that intelikey or unix_infidel and telling me where exactly to pop that one into xorg?
[09:36] <tamacracker> k
[09:37] <RoKFiT> and second?
[09:37] <_kuja_> settings for kde4 programs will be placed in ~/.kde4 instead of ~/.kde, and kde4 will be able to coexist with kde3, keeping in mind that kde3 programs don't work in kde4.
[09:38] <intelikey> tamacracker i've seen many a ntfs mounted, never saw one do that.   i sujest you boot to windows and scnadisk the thing.
[09:38] <goodthing> reave: well, you basicly open that file with an text editor under administrator permissions (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list) from konsole and add one or two lines which you should be able to find on the source-o-matic website
[09:38] <tamacracker> k
[09:38] <RoKFiT> i hope a new alsa driver is oriented
[09:38] <goodthing> reave: if you are not able to do that just ask
[09:38] <RoKFiT> brb
[09:38] <tamacracker> wait
[09:38] <tamacracker> scandisk?
[09:38] <tamacracker> >.>
[09:38] <intelikey> yes
[09:38] <reave> lol konqueror sounds better and better all the time!
[09:38] <tamacracker> i only know of disk clean up and defrag lol
[09:38] <ricky> bye
[09:39] <tamacracker> alright ill see what's up
[09:39] <intelikey> tamacracker there is a disk diagnostic and repair tool also
[09:40] <reave> im going to try firefox for now..
[09:40] <intelikey> in the command line i think it's still scandisk
[09:40] <goodthing> reave: after that you issue a "sudo aptitude update"  and a sudo aptitude install opera and you should be set assuming you editted the sources.list file correct
[09:40] <reave> im more familiar with opera and firefox than konq.
[09:40] <j_> reave, all you need to do is edit a textfile
[09:40] <j_> opera doesn't seem to be too stable on kubuntu though
[09:41] <j_> or then somethings amiss with my configuration
[09:41] <reave> today is my first day using linux.
[09:41] <reave> I have under 2 hours with it.
[09:41] <j_> mostly it crashes when there lots of tabs open and some of them has those fricken flash ads
[09:41] <reave> so I am going slow!
[09:42] <_kuja_> j-> opera never crashes on me
[09:42] <j_> it started like 3 days ago
[09:42] <_kuja_> j-> flash may not necessarily be 100% stable, and that could crash the browser
[09:42] <j_> haven't installed anything either
[09:42] <j_> I need to look into my Opera flash plugin
[09:43] <j_> Flash sites suck anyway, maybe I'll just uninstall it
[09:43] <_kuja_> You using flash 7 or 9?
[09:44] <touchscreen> How can I find out what USB port my monitor is connected to so i can write that into xorg?
[09:44] <j_> 9 I suppose
[09:44] <_kuja_> first or second beta?
[09:44] <reave> how can I get linux to find my hard disk drives?
[09:44] <reave> do I need to mount them?
[09:44] <goodthing> reave: well, just keep in mind that everybody has been there, and everyone is still learning
[09:45] <reave> heh..
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> !fstab | reave
[09:45] <ubotu> reave: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:45] <reave> I need to get a linux for dummies
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> do a sudo fdisk -l
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> then follow the fstab guide
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm going to bed
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> goodnight all
[09:45] <intelikey> i stand corrected chkdsk has again replaced scandisk
[09:45] <_kuja_> night Admiral_Chicago
[09:46] <j_> I am having no luck on locating my flasj plugin
[09:46] <intelikey> !ntfs | reave
[09:46] <ubotu> reave: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:48] <wall86> howdy, i seem to be having a problem with booting, the error msg is: ALERT! /dev/hda2 does not exist. dropping to a shell!     yet i only have 1 HDD
[09:49] <matthew> good night, all
[09:49] <bgsteffens> wall86 is your fstab file trying to mount a /dev/hda2?
[09:49] <j_> Flash 7 apparently
[09:49] <intelikey> wall86 /dev/hda2 is first ide primary hd second partition.
[09:49] <_kuja_> wall86: could be a problem with your /etc/fstab file
[09:49] <wall86> ok,
[09:49] <j_> or at least that was the only package I have lying around
[09:50] <wall86> this is still a fresh install, been trying everything to get this thing running for a week
[09:50] <T3hWiz0rd> amarok crashes too easy.
[09:50] <_kuja_> wall86, bring up a terminal and try this: sudo parted /dev/hda print
[09:50] <wall86> had to re-install for liek the 15th time now.....
[09:50] <intelikey> so your initramfs is trying to mount hda2 but that's not where you installed the system ?
[09:51] <_kuja_> !pastebin | wall86
[09:51] <ubotu> wall86: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:51] <_kuja_> Use pastebin to show the results
[09:51] <intelikey> _kuja_ you did notice he said it's PRE-FSTAB didn't you ?
[09:51] <touchscreen> Okay... I'm trying to find out what USB port my monitor is connected to so I can complete this line in xorg.         Option     "Device"     "/dev/ttyS0" where ttys0 is my USB drive. How do i do that?
[09:51] <wall86> can't even boot.....
[09:52] <touchscreen> USB port not drive. *
[09:52] <_kuja_> Hmm, do this from the livecd?
[09:52] <bgsteffens> wall86 i feel your pain. i messed up converting my 300 gb filestorage drive from ntfs to ext3 and have been trying to get the data back for a week
[09:52] <wall86> boots to live cd
[09:52] <wall86> just does not boot to final install
[09:52] <_kuja_> Yes, are you u sing the livecd now?
[09:53] <wall86> no, i can boot to it tho
[09:53] <goodthing> man, my mind is totally thinking in apt-get and aptitude, i find myself using that on fedore for the trillion time now...
[09:53] <j_> is there anything like Brightside for KDE?
[09:53] <_kuja_> What's brightside like?
[09:53] <intelikey> wall86 for future referance that error is happening in the RAM disk  before the initramfs.img hands the system over to the init/upstart.
[09:53] <j_> press mouse against corner -> switch desktop
[09:53] <j_> I mean side of course
[09:53] <wall86> ok, im a linux newb......
[09:54] <j_> or some configurable action
[09:54] <_kuja_> goodthing, I've heard of something called apt-rpm, and I'm pretty sure pclinuxos is a rpm based distro, yet, I think it uses apt-get ... must be some way to pull it off ;)
[09:54] <j_> what I would really want is to have a scrollable desktop
[09:54] <goodthing> hmm, interesting :)
[09:55] <_kuja_> j_: You can have a scrollable desktop :)
[09:55] <j_> yeah, but it kinda glitches with my hardware at least
[09:55] <intelikey> wall86 the fact that it says "ALERT! /dev/hda2 does not exist. dropping to a shell!" means that it is happening within the initramfs      this tells us two things.   one.  the boot loader is reading in the kernel and the initramfs.img correctly   that means it's not a grub problem     two that whether it's module or address related the kernel is not able to mount the root file system.
[09:56] <_kuja_> Hmm, weird
[09:56] <j_> I get artifacts
[09:56] <intelikey> now if you can get these guys to fix that for you, you'll be in business.
[09:56] <intelikey> and i posted that just a little late.
[09:57] <intelikey> sure.  nothing wrong with checking the addressing.
[09:57] <vge> how do i setup a mail server
[09:57] <vge> i just want to use the php mail() command :)
[09:57] <intelikey> just keep in mind the info above  ^
[09:57] <_kuja_> but of course
[09:58] <intelikey> vge sendmail ?
[09:58] <dave_> cam somone please help me with the mp3 codecs i still cant work out how to get Kubuntu To play mp3's
[09:59] <_kuja_> !mp3
[09:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:59] <intelikey> dave_ did you go to those sights listed ^
[09:59] <dave_> eh but i have kubuntu not ubuntu does it matter?
[10:00] <intelikey> it's all the same except the default apps.
[10:00] <touchscreen> Where is the Ubuntu equivilant of the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/ directory?
[10:01] <dave_> oh ok and why is Wine ghosted in the add programs thing
[10:01] <touchscreen> I've got a file to cram there.. but I have no such dir
[10:01] <intelikey> in other words if it gives a command line  example   there is not x/edu/k/  to ubuntu  it's all just ubuntu
[10:01] <intelikey> dave_ did you go to the repos link i gave you an hour ago ?
[10:01] <intelikey> !repos
[10:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:01] <dave_> no sorry i misssed  it!
[10:02] <_kuja_> touchscreen, probably /usr/lib/X11, I would think
[10:02] <_kuja_> or wait a bloody minute hold for a sec
[10:03] <_kuja_> hmm, might be it
[10:03] <dave_> reading now
[10:03] <_kuja_> or not
[10:04] <osiris_> !nvidia > osiris_
[10:05] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a firefox plugin that keeps the search bar at the bottom static>
[10:05] <unix_infidel> ??
[10:07] <goodthing> someone knows how to get fdisk installed on fedora by accident?
[10:08] <unix_infidel> goodthing: ?
[10:08] <unix_infidel> this is #Kubuntu
[10:08] <intelikey> goodthing fdisk not installed ?   fdisk is pretty standard equepment on any *nix
[10:08] <goodthing> nope, fedora does not come with it
[10:08] <_kuja_> Funny thing was, Kubuntu wouldn't install due to weird hardware related issues on goodthings computer....
[10:08] <intelikey> goodthing maybe you don't have sbin/ in your path ?
[10:08] <_kuja_> goodthing, how about parted, is it installed?
[10:09] <goodthing> unix_infidel: yeah i know, but i like you guys more ;)
[10:09] <bgsteffens> i can't get mp3s to work either.....
[10:09] <goodthing> _kuja_: dunno, lemme look
[10:09] <_kuja_> !mp3 | bgsteffens
[10:09] <ubotu> bgsteffens: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:09] <intelikey> goodthing echo $PATH | grep sbin
[10:09] <bgsteffens> that's what i went off'
[10:09] <bgsteffens> now amarok is broken
[10:09] <bgsteffens> lol
[10:09] <_kuja_> odd
[10:10] <_kuja_> Broken how?
[10:10] <bgsteffens> loading application... for 2 or 3 minutes and then disappears
[10:10] <_kuja_> try this: killall amarok
[10:10] <_kuja_> erm
[10:10] <_kuja_> killall amarokapp
[10:10] <_kuja_> Then try to open it again
[10:11] <vge> intelikey: yes, sendmail
[10:11] <intelikey> goodthing is sbin in your path ?
[10:11] <reave> what is the easiest way to install ati video drivers... I am a total noob... please be gentle
[10:12] <bgsteffens> _kuja_ nice, thank you. it works again and plays mp3 suddenly ;P
[10:12] <vge> sendmail is in /usr/sbin/sendmail if im not mistaken
[10:12] <_kuja_> yw bgsteffens
[10:12] <bgsteffens> my room is no longer silent! >=)
[10:12] <reave> btw,... you guys are awesome... i have got a lot working already
[10:12] <_kuja_> the silence must have been so awful :O
[10:13] <intelikey> vge the docs on sendmail are pretty streight forward  although i've only set it up one time...  i got it to work and am network illiterate.
[10:13] <bgsteffens> yep haha
[10:14] <goodthing> sweeeeet, FC work with my three disk, /me is happy
[10:14] <intelikey> goodthing is sbin in your path ?
[10:15] <intelikey> goodthing i really would like to knw if fedora still leaves sbin out of user paths ?
[10:15] <goodthing> oops, sorry, was not looking, will look now
[10:15] <goodthing> nope, that command is respondless
[10:16] <goodthing> oh, typo
[10:16] <goodthing> no i am right, no output with that command intelikey
[10:16] <intelikey> goodthing that's why your user doesn't have fdisk  or any of the commands in */sbin/
[10:17] <goodthing> intelikey: ok, but from su it also does not seem to work
[10:17] <intelikey> goodthing root has sbin in the path  so it sees things like fdisk.
[10:17] <intelikey> su is not root environment
[10:17] <intelikey> su -     is root environment
[10:17] <goodthing> i know, but fdisk cannot be found
[10:18] <goodthing> seems to be in util-linux, but that is not installable...
[10:18] <intelikey> but other commands would also be missing.  i'm just saying.
[10:18] <goodthing> i see
[10:18] <intelikey> k
[10:18] <goodthing> thnx
[10:18] <intelikey> np
 su   is not root environment   <intelikey> su -     is root environment  <<< i hope you did catch that.
[10:23] <_kuja_> I thought the only big difference was that su -         moved you to /root .... hmm, I might be wrong about that though
[10:24] <intelikey> _kuja_ it's total environment   sets ~ $HOME $PATH and all
[10:24] <_kuja_> Hmm
[10:24] <intelikey> test it and see :)
[10:25] <vge> i just can't understand why it dont send mail, i have sendmail installed, php.ini is referring to right path, but no mails send o.o
[10:25] <_kuja_> su (without -) sets $HOME, not sure about path, that I'll have to check
[10:26] <_kuja_> then again, I'd have to have different $PATH 's set to notice
[10:26] <intelikey> games ?
[10:26] <_kuja_> ~ is also set
[10:26] <intelikey> echo $PATH | grep game
[10:26] <_kuja_> (probably directly related to $HOME, of course)
[10:27] <_kuja_> /usr/games?
[10:27] <intelikey> that is not in root's path by default
[10:27] <_kuja_> I never said I was suing to root :P
[10:27] <_kuja_> Fine, I'll check that
[10:29] <_kuja_> Hmm, you're right, it won't set the path if you only su instead of su -
[10:29] <intelikey> it wont set the path it wont cd you and other things...  i just don't remember what all
[10:30] <RoKFiT> how can I update my alsa driver?  there is a fix for my card.
[10:30] <intelikey> RoKFiT kewl   glad you found one.
[10:30] <marlus> tem brasileiro ai
[10:30] <RoKFiT> but i need to install it from our repos
[10:30] <RoKFiT> how can i install it?
[10:30] <RoKFiT> or update
[10:31] <_kuja_> If you're running edgy, then you're about as up to date as you can get via the repos, unless you want to try feisty, which I really wouldn't recommend until April or so
[10:31] <intelikey> ooops.
[10:32] <RoKFiT> ah, when will an update be released
[10:32] <_kuja_> That's just the thing, there probably won't be one in Edgy.
[10:32] <_kuja_> Unless you get extraordinarily lucky.
[10:32] <RoKFiT> i have to update the OS?
[10:33] <intelikey> i bet dapper will get the patch
[10:33] <RoKFiT> well can someone help me compile a driver
[10:33] <intelikey> !LTS
[10:33] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:34] <_kuja_> compiling kernel drivers is not something I'm experienced at ...
[10:34] <_kuja_> how about you intelikey?
[10:34] <__osh__> _kuja_: It's not that hard. Put it in the right dir and do a "make modules" iirc.
[10:35] <intelikey> RoKFiT i can tell you you will need build-essential installed.   and you'll need the kernel source.  that's about as far as my help goes there.
[10:35] <_kuja_> and a lurker wakes up :D
[10:35] <RoKFiT> it's a module not a kernel driver
[10:36] <__osh__> sorry, wasn't paying attention really. let's see if I can find your original question.
[10:37] <_kuja_> 04:30:02
[10:37] <_kuja_>  < RoKFiT >  how can I update my alsa driver?  there is a fix for my card.
[10:37] <intelikey> yep looks like that would be a kernel module to me....
[10:37] <_kuja_> kernel modules do seem to perform the same functions as drivers, don't they?
[10:38] <RoKFiT> what alsa driver is feisty using?
[10:38] <__osh__> yeah, looks like a module is what you're after to me too.
[10:38] <intelikey> maybe we should stop making fun.  he's been working on that three days now.
[10:39] <__osh__> !alsa
[10:39] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:39] <intelikey> RoKFiT sorry for the pun at you expence.  i'll try to refrain from such.
[10:39] <RoKFiT> go ahead, i'd just like to get it working
[10:40] <intelikey> RoKFiT have you installed build-essential ?
[10:40] <RoKFiT> i'm about to
[10:40] <intelikey> RoKFiT have you dl'd the patch ?   and the kernel source ?
[10:42] <RoKFiT> i have the alsa driver downloaded, yes
[10:42] <RoKFiT> kernel source, i'm not sure
[10:42] <RoKFiT> build-essential is installed
[10:42] <intelikey> actually if it was me.   "not that you are me."  i'm probably just get the kernel source with the patched driver and build the whole kernel.  modules and all...   compile in what ever i wanted...
[10:43] <intelikey> building a kernel is not that hard.  it just takes a little time.
[10:43] <RoKFiT> where do i get the kernel source
[10:43] <intelikey> kernel.org ?
[10:44] <intelikey> if all you want is to build the driver
[10:44] <intelikey> then get the ubuntu kernel source
[10:44] <intelikey> packagemanager
[10:44] <RoKFiT> what is the package called
[10:45] <_kuja_> feisty has 1.0.13-2 ...
[10:45] <intelikey> linux-source ?
[10:45] <dave_> intelikey adept wont download mt packeges anymore There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[10:45] <_kuja_> Shouldn't need the whole source to build a module
[10:45] <_kuja_> should only need:
[10:45] <_kuja_> linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:46] <intelikey> dave_ hmmm
[10:46] <RoKFiT> they are installed
[10:47] <tamacracker> :\ check disk didn't do anythin for me intelikey
[10:47] <intelikey> open the package and read the UPPERCASE.FILENAMES
[10:47] <tamacracker> could it be because i installed fuse?
[10:48] <intelikey> could i guess.  i don't know anything about fuse
[10:48] <tamacracker> oh.
[10:48] <dave_> its like i have to remove the old dowloaded files out of adept before it will get the new one
[10:49] <intelikey> tamacracker i was corrected about the cli name of that windows app  it's  chkdsk  not scandisk  sorry.
[10:49] <RoKFiT> okay now just ./configure and make the driver?
[10:50] <tamacracker> yeah i did the check disk.
[10:51] <intelikey> dave_ that sounds like a broken install/configure of something.    close the package manager and in  a konsole do    sudo apt-get install -f     if it errors out pastebin the errors.
[10:52] <intelikey> if it does nothing .....  hmmmm     and if it corrects the problem stop using adept and start using synaptic.
[10:52] <mankeletor> hi all
[10:52] <mankeletor> anybody knows in what package comes sdl-config?
[10:53] <intelikey> goodthing export PATH="$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin"
[10:53] <_kuja_> libsdl1.2-dev
[10:54] <max_> is there anything similiar to Dameon Tools in Linux?
[10:54] <RoKFiT> with feisty, can i do an upgrade?
[10:54] <dave_> ok ill try !
[10:55] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, you can upgrade to Feisty, but it might be more advisable to download the herd 1 cd instead. Trust me.
[10:55] <mankeletor> _kuja_: thanks
[10:55] <RoKFiT> whoa how would i upgrade to it?
[10:56] <tamacracker> can someone please help me mount my NTFS drive so it is writable
[10:56] <_kuja_> Unless you have a good grip on what you're doing, attempting to upgrade would leave  your system horribly broken ...
[10:56] <tamacracker> the steps I am using looks nothin like what i have
[10:56] <RoKFiT> explain to me this method
[10:56] <max_> tamcracker: pop in a live cd and use qtparted
[10:56] <_kuja_> tamacracker, there are two ways, ntfs-fuse and ntfs3g
[10:57] <tamacracker> anything that's more stable
[10:57] <mankeletor> 32 dependencies for libsdl1.2-dev :S
[10:57] <max_> tamcracker: that is stable
[10:57] <tamacracker> im using fuse but fuse screwed it up and it made it to a read only./
[10:57] <momal> !info qt4-dev
[10:57] <ubotu> Package qt4-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[10:57] <RoKFiT> kuja
[10:57] <_kuja_> RoKFiT: edit the /etc/fstab, change all instances of edgy to feisty, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:58] <momal> !info libqt4-dev
[10:58] <ubotu> libqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 4087 kB, installed size 19996 kB
[10:58] <bgsteffens> how can i check remaining file size on a mounted hard drive?
[10:58] <momal> Can someone tell me if they are able to install libqt4-dev... because i get broken deps :(
[10:59] <RoKFiT> edgy is not found in /etc/fstab
[10:59] <intelikey> bgsteffens df
[10:59] <tamacracker> Can someone please help me get my NTFS HD to be write-able, it is currently read-only.
[10:59] <RoKFiT> can i just apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:59] <_kuja_> momal: I can
[10:59] <_kuja_> Which mirror are you using?
[10:59] <bgsteffens> ty. also, do i have to explicitly umount a hard drive before i can physically remove it?
[10:59] <goodthing> intelikey: what does that?
[10:59] <tamacracker> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows <- looks nothin like this when i follow these instructions
[11:00] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, You'll end up fighting broken dependencies and other fun things. Only do it if you know how to deal with them.
[11:00] <goodthing> brb, need some coffee
[11:00] <intelikey> goodthing adds sbin to your path.
[11:00] <tamacracker> Can someone please help me get my NTFS HD to be write-able, it is currently read-only.
[11:00] <goodthing> ^_^
[11:00] <momal> _kuja_: Just archive.ubuntu.com ones. you ?
[11:00] <bgsteffens> tamacracker: did you do chown?
[11:00] <RoKFiT> what other things?
[11:00] <intelikey> goodthing but only for that shell and any sub-shells.
[11:00] <tamacracker> chown?...
[11:00] <dave_> dave@dave-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[11:00] <_kuja_> Same, just checking that it was us.archive.ubuntu.com, which I've had trouble with on several occasions
[11:00] <dave_> Password:
[11:00] <dave_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:00] <dave_> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:00] <dave_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:00] <dave_> dave@dave-desktop:~$
[11:00] <dave_> dave@dave-desktop:~$
[11:01] <tamacracker>  / join #beryl
[11:01] <dave_> i dont know what to do now sorry?
[11:01] <_kuja_> RoKFiT: how about dapper?
[11:01] <bgsteffens> tamacracker sudo chown brian:brian /mnt/location if your login name is brian
[11:01] <RoKFiT> what about it
[11:01] <majnoon> i'm using a radeon 7000 pci video card glxgears only averaging 60 fps
[11:01] <_kuja_> is it found in your sources.list?
[11:01] <RoKFiT> is it more suitable to me?
[11:01] <RoKFiT> no
[11:01] <Lynoure> dave_: you can say "I'll use pastebin next time" :)
[11:02] <shiftmeister> can you disable trash on kubuntu ? plz
[11:02] <intelikey> dave_ ok the package database is clean and all installed packages are configured   so if adept is giving problems try to apt-get what ever you want and see what happens.
[11:02] <_kuja_> majnoon, sounds like that's probably normal, I think I got around 90-100 with my old 9700
[11:02] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: add repo and update?
[11:02] <intelikey> dave_ what were you trying to install ?
[11:02] <tamacracker> chown: cannot access `/mnt/location': No such file or directory
[11:02] <dave_> kk sorry about the spam guys i am just a microsoft boy
[11:03] <bgsteffens> tamacracker put /mnt/location as the spot in your filesystem that you mounted the ntfs drive
[11:03] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, just change dapper/edgy to feisty, then do the update & dist-upgrade. Unless you know how to deal with broken deps though, I don't really recommend it.
[11:03] <majnoon> i have a onboard i810 and it's agp settings still loaded that hurt it ??
[11:03] <Alarm> hello i tried to instal java from the package manager, everything goes actually fine. till a point that the installation stopped. so i pressed on details and so that it shows the license aggrement, but it seems that it doesnt accept neither "enter" nor "yes" so the installation doesnt go forward. some how i dont have access in the console window or i dont know what else
[11:03] <RoKFiT> change edgy to feisty where?
[11:03] <Alarm> actually thats what i see: Operating System Distributor License for Java v1.1 (DLJ)  plus some other text
[11:03] <RoKFiT> in sources.list?
[11:03] <momal> _kuja_: any ideas what I can do to fix: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ | info from apt-get
[11:03] <intelikey> dave_ what were you trying to do exactly ?    when you had the trubble with adept ?
[11:04] <tamacracker> you mean: /media/hda1
[11:04] <bgsteffens> tamacracker yea if that's where you mounted it
[11:04] <tamacracker> chown: changing ownership of `/media/hda1': Read-only file system
[11:04] <dave_> i was trying to download wine and the mp3 codecs
[11:05] <bgsteffens> O_O
[11:05] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: where do i edit edgy to feisty
[11:05] <RoKFiT> nothing is in fstab
[11:05] <max_> im trying to install CDemu and when i do <make> it says </bin/sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number> what does this mean?
[11:05] <_kuja_> RoKFiT: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:05] <majnoon> is there a way to switch intel_agp to ati_agp ??
[11:05] <tamacracker> ... what do i do now?
[11:05] <intelikey> dave ok   do this in the konsole;  sudo apt-get wine
[11:05] <intelikey> see what it does.
[11:05] <_kuja_> *install
[11:06] <majnoon> is there a way to switch intel_agp to ati_agp ??
[11:06] <shiftmeister> hello anyone?
[11:06] <Alarm> any tips for the problem i got ?
[11:06] <shiftmeister> i have a question plz
[11:06] <bgsteffens> tamacracker that's all i knew to try, i'm a noob ^^, hopefully one of the pros here can take it over
[11:06] <RoKFiT> all dappers and edgys or just edgy
[11:06] <tamacracker> oh man
[11:06] <shiftmeister> guys ?
[11:07] <intelikey> wow RoKFiT you have dapper and edgy in your sources.list ?
[11:07] <_kuja_> Alarm, try doing it from the konsole instead, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[11:07] <max_> just ask it shiftmeister
[11:07] <RoKFiT> dapper for wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/
[11:07] <intelikey> hmmmmm
[11:07] <momal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ <-- can anyone help me >_<... trouble installing libqt4-dev
[11:07] <Alarm> no what to do ? close the package manager ? will that maybe destroy everything or it will be overwritten and everything wil be ok
[11:08] <shiftmeister> can u disable trash on kubuntu?
[11:08] <mankeletor> what's the $HOST for kubuntu? I have edgy 6.10
[11:08] <_kuja_> momal: quite the strange problem you're having with the broken packages ... Are you using Dapper or Edgy?
[11:08] <momal> edgy
[11:09] <_kuja_> mankeletor: I don't seem to get anything from echo $HOST
[11:09] <_kuja_> momal, maybe it's a result of the recent update?
[11:09] <RoKFiT> sources.list is changed, sudo apt-get update?
[11:09] <intelikey> anyone have the url of the w32codecs.deb package ?
[11:09] <_kuja_> RoKFiT: right
[11:09] <tamacracker> Can someone please help me get my NTFS HD to be write-able, it is currently read-only.
[11:09] <intelikey> RoKFiT that would be the next logical step
[11:10] <RoKFiT> many packages are installing
[11:10] <momal> _kuja_: recent update?... when I first tried was around 2 weeks ago and it did it then
[11:10] <intelikey> RoKFiT you have been warned that there may not be a complete enough repo to support that upgrade yet.
[11:10] <_kuja_> tamacracker, pull up konqueror, type in uwiki ntfs-3g
[11:10] <tamacracker> aren't all these different file extensions gonna screw up my HD?
[11:10] <RoKFiT> i will try it
[11:11] <RoKFiT> what is the next step
[11:11] <tamacracker> can I just delete fuse
[11:11] <tamacracker> and start from scratch
[11:11] <intelikey> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:11] <_kuja_> Yes, and repeatedly. It took me about a half hour to an hour to get Feisty fully up to snuff
[11:11] <tamacracker> im not using fuse, i hate fuse, fuse ruined the whole write access.
[11:11] <_kuja_> All of which was fighting broken packages
[11:11] <RoKFiT> Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:11] <intelikey> and good luck to your hat.
[11:12] <mankeletor> _kuja_: That's right, for that reason Im asking. echo $HOST give you nothing on slack, but you can do export HOST=i486-slackware-linux and you're ready for packaging :)
[11:12] <_kuja_> fuse != 3g, last time I checked
[11:12] <intelikey> rokfit  is another package manager running ?
[11:12] <Alarm> why do i get that: alarm@rockpc:/$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[11:12] <Alarm> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:12] <Alarm> 
[11:12] <RoKFiT> yes, fetching updates...
[11:12] <Alarm> ?
[11:13] <_kuja_> makeletor, you can export it on kubuntu as well
[11:13] <majnoon> do you think the kernel still loading intel_agp slowing card??
[11:13] <intelikey> RoKFiT only one at a time.
[11:13] <RoKFiT> one update at a time?
[11:13] <_kuja_> Alarm: probably because you did, doing that should fix things though
[11:13] <intelikey> one package manager
[11:13] <RoKFiT> k
[11:14] <RoKFiT> 588
 Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock <<<<intelikey> RoKFiT only one at a time.
[11:14] <RoKFiT> 15 installs, 588 updates
[11:14] <RoKFiT> and this wine repo is giving me troubles
[11:15] <intelikey> that's what the "lock" file is there for.   to "lock" it.
[11:15] <Alarm> _kuja_,  still get errors: You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[11:15] <Alarm> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:15] <Alarm>   sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (=
[11:15] <Alarm> did it with apt-get -f install but get again the same message
[11:15] <intelikey> like the lock inside a restroom stall.   one at a time.
[11:15] <_kuja_> do an apt-get remove sun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin
[11:15] <_kuja_> Then install them over again
[11:16] <Alarm> ok i think something worked now
[11:17] <jovans> hallo
[11:17] <RoKFiT> brb
[11:17] <_kuja_> hello
[11:17] <jovans> ich hab mal ne frage
[11:17] <Alarm> something strange happened. although java -version 1.5.0 is installed . in the adept manager i see that jdk and jre arent installed
[11:17] <jovans> wo kann ich in kubuntu einstellen das kde mit einer neuen session startet also nicht automatisch speichert welche config datei ist dafr verantwortlich?
[11:18] <_kuja_> !de
[11:18] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:18] <jovans> #kubuntu-de
[11:18] <jovans> na gut
[11:18] <_kuja_> Alarm: try installing them?
[11:18] <Alarm> ok i think fixed
[11:18] <Alarm> thank you a lot
[11:19] <_kuja_> you're welcome
[11:19] <Alarm> how can i find the path of java installed ? last question :)
[11:19] <_kuja_> /usr/lib/jvm/
[11:19] <Alarm> and /urs/lib/jdk is the development librar y ?
[11:20] <_kuja_> they should all go inside /usr/lib/jvm, gcj resides in /usr/lib/jvm as well
[11:20] <Alarm> okie thanks:)
[11:21] <ForgeAus> hey all :) I'm back.. .and a little wizer... well not alot, but slowly getting there
[11:21] <intelikey>  /usr/local/src/bin/music: line 24: file: command not found  <<<< what's the gripe there ?     is it  "file" the command that is not found ?
[11:22] <intelikey> does anyone have the command   file ?
[11:22] <_kuja_> looks that way ....
[11:22] <_kuja_> I have the command file
[11:22] <intelikey> hmmm ok.
[11:22] <intelikey> ty.
[11:22] <_kuja_> /usr/bin/file
[11:22] <intelikey> what installed it ?
[11:22] <achem> same here
[11:22] <_kuja_> contained in the package file ...
[11:23] <intelikey> ok
[11:23] <ForgeAus> uh one question about adept...
[11:23] <intelikey> that's simple enough.
[11:23] <ForgeAus> if you allow proprietry software does athat mean its al lshareaware?
[11:23] <ForgeAus> grr shareware
[11:24] <intelikey> ForgeAus no that means non-free
[11:24] <intelikey> !free
[11:24] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[11:25] <ForgeAus> hmmm ok... another question what's the difff between debian and ubuntu... (I mean I know ubuntu is based on debian)
[11:25] <intelikey> ah i found the offending code...  do if file $Q | grep audio > /dev/null 2>&1
[11:26] <intelikey> seems that i need to install file,  cause that is important....
[11:26] <_kuja_> release cycle, commercial support, some packages, different userbase, different target audience
[11:26] <intelikey> different default also
[11:26] <max_> how do i unmount an ISO i mounted?
[11:27] <intelikey> umount it
[11:27] <ForgeAus> you can mount iso's kewl :)
[11:27] <_kuja_> mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[11:27] <intelikey> ForgeAus yes or floppy.img files
[11:27] <_kuja_> might also need -t iso9660 or similar
[11:27] <intelikey> or hd.img files
[11:27] <max_> intelikey: is it the same command but umount
[11:27] <ForgeAus> the only problem now with VMWare is its slow :(...
[11:28] <intelikey> no just umount file.iso
[11:28] <intelikey> or sudo umount file.iso
[11:28] <max_> oh ok
[11:28] <max_> thanks
[11:28] <_kuja_> or wait, I missed the un. Lovely
[11:28] <tamacracker> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-3g'
[11:28] <intelikey> to mount you do   sudo mount file.iso mount/point/ -o loop
[11:29] <max_> sudo: unmount: command not found
[11:29] <intelikey> i didn't say unmount
[11:29] <Jucato> umount
[11:29] <max_> ooooh
[11:29] <max_> sorry
[11:29] <tamacracker> was i supposed to do this: /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, stil working on that?
[11:30] <intelikey> you can even mount cram images
[11:30] <tamacracker> me?
[11:30] <tamacracker> I've been tryin to mount my ntfs drive so i can write onto it for the last 4 hours
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> tamacracker: ya, iirc, i think you were doing that when i left
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> damn
[11:30] <_kuja_> intelikey, if you can, it probably involves putting a -t cramfs or similar
[11:30] <ForgeAus> kuja its ok, just not fast enough for me thats all
[11:30] <jovans> can everybody say me where kde is storering the last session
[11:30] <tamacracker> I wish Jon was online
[11:30] <intelikey> in fact in linux you can mount anything except tamacracker's ntfs   which defies all logic.
[11:30] <_kuja_> or was it squashfs
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> have fun with that,...(back up your data!)
[11:31] <tamacracker> Jon only took 5 or so minutes
[11:31] <jovans> i cannot start the kde controll center it crashes how do it manualy that kde starts with a blank session?
[11:31] <jovans> wich config file
[11:31] <_kuja_> ForgeAus, I've got an FX-60 and 2GB of RAM, so it only makes sense that I wouldn't notice speed problems :D
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> jovans: what do ou mean control center?
[11:31] <tamacracker> #ubuntu #dapper #beryl #ntfs
[11:32] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago! :)
[11:32] <jovans> the session manager
[11:32] <_kuja_> kcontrol crashes?
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> ah you can't get past KDM?
[11:32] <jovans> in kde
[11:32] <intelikey> _kuja_ yes there is a list in /proc/filesystems  of the fs's that do and don't need  -t
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> jovans: you log in and everything is blank?
[11:32] <jovans> no
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: ever do a KDM theme?
[11:33] <jovans>  it restore automaticly the last session i want to login with a ne blank session
[11:33] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: nooooope :)
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see
[11:33] <jovans> wich vonfig file i have to edit?
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i'm working on one now.
[11:33] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hehe have fun! :)
[11:33] <intelikey> or that shouldn't need -t  i should say.
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> jovans: i understnad, i'm not really sure
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i'm lost on what i should be doing
[11:34] <jovans> everybody knows?
[11:34] <jovans> wich are the config file
[11:34] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if I'm supposed to have this in the fstab?: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll ping PyroMithrandir when I see him online
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> or ask him when he comes to my house
[11:34] <Jucato> :)
[11:34] <_kuja_> brb, restarting X
[11:35] <momal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ <-- can anyone help me >_<... trouble installing libqt4-dev
[11:35] <intelikey> jovans i don't know the config file... but you can select to not restore from within kde   not sure if that helps you...
[11:36] <RoKFiT> 61%
[11:37] <_kuja_> and I'm back, with beryl 1.3 :)
[11:37] <_kuja_> erm, 0.1.3
[11:37] <RoKFiT> sweet
[11:37] <intelikey> eeeek "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[11:37] <intelikey> what i need is  gnupg ?
[11:38] <_kuja_> you need to find the signers public key, and then apt-key add it
[11:38] <RoKFiT> is the feisty repos updating alsa?
[11:38] <intelikey> _kuja_ ubuntu main
[11:38] <crube> I thought of trying Beryl out, but my graphic drivers seem to be messed up for some reason. I have an integrated graphic chip on my laptop and it hasn't been working well with Edgy :(
[11:38] <intelikey> now do i need gnupg ?
[11:38] <_kuja_> RoKFiT: Edgy has alsa 1.0.11, Feisty has alsa 1.0.13
[11:38] <RoKFiT> so yes?
[11:38] <_kuja_> intelikey, I don't think so
[11:39] <_kuja_> Indeed
[11:39] <RoKFiT> will my pc just reboot into feisty after apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:39] <intelikey> _kuja_ then what does dpkg use to authenticate packages ?
[11:39] <Ash-Fox> That reminds me.. I need to import my own stupid GPG key, so apt will stop crying about the lack of my key
[11:40] <intelikey> ah GPG key   so it is gnupg then ?
[11:40] <RoKFiT> windows people call a computer a pc, apple people a mac, what do linux people call a computer?
[11:40] <intelikey> box
[11:40] <RoKFiT> seriously?
[11:40] <Ash-Fox> intelikey, you probably just need to import the package maintainer's key
[11:40] <ForgeAus> yup a box
[11:40] <ForgeAus> its a windows box a linux box and osx box, etc... :)
[11:40] <zamaliphe> how can i get the kernel boot masgs ?
[11:41] <RoKFiT> linux box
[11:41] <_kuja_> intelikey, it is, but I don't think it requires it to do the authentication
[11:41] <RoKFiT> it should be LC
[11:41] <RoKFiT> i'm going on my lc
[11:41] <intelikey> well i installed gnupg   we'll see if that fixes it on my next package i deside to install.
[11:41] <RoKFiT> linux computer
[11:41] <ForgeAus> I tend to chunk linux, bsd, solaris unix, etc in the one *nix category...
[11:42] <RoKFiT> is freebsd nice/
[11:42] <Ash-Fox> intelikey, doubt it
[11:42] <_kuja_> intelikey: apt-cache search keyring
[11:42] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't have a clue
[11:42] <RoKFiT> oh
[11:42] <Ash-Fox> If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number):
[11:42] <RoKFiT> its just kde
[11:42] <Ash-Fox> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[11:42] <Ash-Fox> gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[11:42] <RoKFiT> too many distros when all they really differ in is repos and how they boot
[11:43] <_kuja_> Ash-Fox, that must have been funny. Probably true in both respects :D
[11:43] <ForgeAus> I was thinking of getting a few distros like knoppix and an rpm based one like mandriva or fedora core to toy with
[11:43] <intelikey> RoKFiT :)
[11:43] <ForgeAus> and see how they compare to kubuntu
[11:43] <ForgeAus> but other than that... I have no idea
[11:43] <RoKFiT> kubuntu is like the sleek
[11:43] <Windwalker> Hi. Can somebody tell me if snd-xxxx drivers are part of ALSA?
[11:43] <ForgeAus> perhaps even freespire
[11:43] <Ash-Fox> ForgeAus, I'd urge you to try mandriva over fedora
[11:44] <ForgeAus> kubuntu seems to be mostly user friendly
[11:44] <RoKFiT> kubuntu is just what you need
[11:44] <_kuja_> Windwalker: all drivers preceded by snd- are alsa drivers
[11:44] <_kuja_> AFAIK
[11:44] <Ash-Fox> For the fact that mandriva comes with it's configuration utilities for hardware and such (like drakconf), something unique that other distros don't really have
[11:44] <ForgeAus> well kubuntu I think I'll stick with... the rest are just for comparison
[11:44] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: do i just reboot after apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:44] <_kuja_> Mandrake did have some nice configuration tools, I'll give it that (in fact, I bet it still does)
[11:44] <Ash-Fox> Although, saying that. I still choose to use Kubuntu over Mandriva as my main desktop
[11:44] <Ace2016> how do i find what screen i'm using, beryl says:
[11:45] <Ace2016> beryl-xgl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0
[11:45] <Ace2016> beryl-xgl: No manageable screens found on display :1.0
[11:45] <Windwalker> Ok. If I have description on my multimedia controller like: ALSA emulation #10, then how can I tell which snd-xxxx is ALSA using, _kuja_?
[11:45] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, I would seriously recommend checking that EVERYTHING got upgraded first.
[11:45] <_kuja_> do another dist-upgrade to check
[11:45] <intelikey> RoKFiT if the kernel and boot loader are both updated propperly.
[11:45] <RoKFiT> okay
[11:45] <Ash-Fox> Ace2016, tried ctrl + alt + backspace?
[11:45] <ForgeAus> is there a virtual windows manager that makes your desktop like a cube?... that you can spin for alternate desktops??
[11:45] <Ash-Fox> ForgeAus, es.
[11:45] <Ace2016> Ash-Fox: many times, and then i logged back in and it still broken
[11:45] <RoKFiT> compiz
[11:46] <Ace2016> ForgeAus: yup, beryl
[11:46] <_kuja_> Windwalker, not sure, take a look at lsmod | grep snd. Most of them are generic dependencies of the specific one for your hardware. For example mine uses snd-intelx80
[11:46] <Ash-Fox> Ace2016, well.. That sucks. :<
[11:46] <ForgeAus> kewl :) i'll check it out
[11:46] <_kuja_> **8x0
[11:46] <intelikey> RoKFiT and yes it doesn't hurt to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:46] <Windwalker> I forgot about lsmod :) Thank you _kuja_
[11:46] <Ace2016> Ash-Fox: it doesn't, i was using it yesterday and i love it, the options are great and it has everything that i used to use kwin for and the effects are very nice and the manager is good too
[11:47] <RoKFiT> that sucks that there aren't ever driver upgrades
[11:47] <_kuja_> yw Windwalker
[11:47] <RoKFiT> 91%
[11:47] <intelikey> being using now the development alpha   or pre-alpha   you will want to  sudo apt-get update && sudo e
[11:47] <Admiral_Chicago> ping to anyone
[11:47] <intelikey> being using now the development alpha   or pre-alpha   you will want to  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     on a regular basis.
[11:48] <intelikey> like daily.
[11:48] <Ace2016> But it doesn't slow anything down
[11:48] <_kuja_> These effects can of course be turned off, ash-fox
[11:48] <Admiral_Chicago> nwm
[11:48] <Admiral_Chicago> bed time
[11:48] <Ace2016> and its like osx's see all the windows at the same time thing, its very useful
[11:48] <_kuja_> Again?
[11:48] <Ash-Fox> _kuja_, which I do. :P
[11:49] <intelikey> Ace2016 affects take time.   it may be unnoticable by it's there.
[11:49] <_kuja_> I set mine to fade, all of the other ones serve to annoy me ... or fascinate me to the point that I do them over and over again thus losing productivity
[11:49] <Ace2016> intelikey: unnoticable is ok with me
[11:49] <intelikey> :)
[11:50] <Ash-Fox> the only animation I leave on, is Yakuake's drop down animation (Although it's set todo it really quickly)
[11:51] <RoKFiT> no, that did not work!
[11:51] <_kuja_> What didn't work?
[11:51] <intelikey> sound still pops ?
[11:52] <RoKFiT> i got an error that it couldn't commit to updating something
[11:52] <RoKFiT> adept updater
[11:52] <_kuja_> I tried to tell you that would happen ...
[11:52] <RoKFiT> i'll go burn the cd, brb
[11:53] <_kuja_> I wish I had an internet connection as fast as rokfits :O
[11:53] <ForgeAus> damn I don't remember my ident password
[11:54] <ForgeAus> in fact I'm suprised  it still exists
[11:56] <_kuja_> 6am sounds like a good time to go to bed to me ... hahaha
[11:56] <ForgeAus> yup it was me
[11:56] <_kuja_> Have fun
[11:57] <goodthing> hehe
[11:57] <goodthing> FC is not for me, is just isn' t
[11:57] <goodthing> but i can backup my data now
[11:58] <_kuja_> backups are good
[11:59] <max_> i just removed a 2gb partition, is there anyway to add this to my main partition without having to reinstall?
[11:59] <max_> or make the partition show up as a second drive
[12:00] <_kuja_> goodthing: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd1/Kubuntu could be worth a try. Keeping in mind it's rather, erm, experimental
[12:00] <momal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ | Anyone I can't get libqt4-dev to install and I need it.. HELP
[12:00] <intelikey> it's amazing what all you can mount in linux.    sudo mount -o reomount,ro,umask=777 /dev/_kuja_'s/brain /media/silly/things/to/play/with
[12:01] <goodthing> _kuja_: i think i am going for the alternative to use one 750 SATA disk as OS for normal use and put the two maxtors in RAID1 for backup
[12:01] <goodthing> dunno how that will turn out, but it is worth trying i guess
[12:01] <_kuja_> Hopefully that will work then
[12:02] <goodthing> yeah, trying is knowing
[12:02] <intelikey> for his next trick goodthing makes _kuja_ say "huh?"
[12:03] <__osh__> Still looking for someone running acidfree....
[12:03] <max_> i just removed a 2gb partition, is there anyway to add this to my main partition without having to reinstall?
[12:03] <__osh__> max_: Sure, if you're running lvm.
[12:03] <max_> wgar us lvm?
[12:04] <__osh__> max_: huh?
[12:04] <max_> what is lvm*
[12:04] <Ace2016> direct rendering: No
[12:04] <Ace2016> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
[12:04] <max_> sorry, wasnt loooking
[12:04] <__osh__> !lvm
[12:04] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:04] <_kuja_> !lvm
[12:04] <Ace2016> How do i enable direct rendering?
[12:04] <intelikey> or you can just make it a mountpoint
[12:04] <intelikey> !ati | Ace2016
[12:04] <ubotu> Ace2016: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:05] <__osh__> max_: The ugly solution would be to just mount it under some directory. But that wouldn't expand your disk, just give you some more space to put stuff in.
[12:05] <__osh__> max_: It depends on what you want.
[12:05] <intelikey> __osh__ like /var maybe
[12:05] <malik__> hi guyzz. i have biiiiiig problem..............installed amsn 0.96 n its not working and it also installed something called manage 3rd party software............how do i get rid of all of em coz im unable to uninstall any of them
[12:06] <malik__> im using edgy kubuntu
[12:06] <__osh__> intelikey: like /var or somewhere under ~ depending on what he needs.
[12:06] <ForgeAus> edgy here too
[12:06] <ForgeAus> feisty sounds interesting tho
[12:07] <Ace2016> intelikey: i did all that already, i'm in xgl now
[12:07] <intelikey> yes  i agree    it all depends.
[12:07] <intelikey> Ace2016 all that ?
[12:07] <__osh__> ForgeAus: What in feisty sounds interesting. So far I don't see anything spectacular in it.
[12:07] <intelikey> Ace2016 how to enable dri is in some of that
[12:07] <max_> osh: thats all i need is mroe space to put MP#'s in
[12:08] <__osh__> max_: MP#?
[12:08] <Azzco> MP3
[12:08] <max_> MP3* sorrt
[12:08] <max_> sorry*
[12:08] <__osh__> Ah.
[12:08] <_kuja_> hostname bed && sleep 4h
[12:08] <__osh__> Then just mount it somewhere. Don't bother with lvm.
[12:08] <momal> Anyone that can install libqt4-dev can i have a look at your sources.list file please
[12:08] <__osh__> !fstab
[12:08] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:09] <max_> when you mount it dosnt it dissappear everytime you restart though
[12:09] <malik__> can any one tell me how to remove amsn 0.96 from command line(konsole)
[12:09] <Azzco> one sec momal
[12:09] <intelikey> max_ mkdir ~/more_space && sudo mount /dev/<devicenode> ~/more_space
[12:09] <__osh__> max_: Have a look at the fstab link on how to add a directory.
[12:09] <max_> ok, thanks osh
[12:09] <_kuja_|sleep> momal, one moment then
[12:09] <__osh__> max_: or have a look at intelikey's solution.
[12:09] <intelikey> both actually
[12:10] <intelikey> i was just adding to what you said
[12:10] <Azzco> momal: how do you want me to give you the file?
[12:10] <momal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ will be fine thanks :)
[12:10] <Ace2016> intelikey: where does it say how to enable dri?
[12:10] <_kuja_|sleep> momal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37895/
[12:10] <Azzco> someone was faster ;)
[12:11] <intelikey> Ace2016 sec.
[12:11] <intelikey> Ace2016 what card ?
[12:11] <flem_> having updated my laptop to edgy, I can't write anything in any x-programs
[12:11] <tamacracker> how do i uninstall fuse?
[12:11] <Azzco> Has anyone got Konference installed? I got a few errors last time I tried to build it...
[12:11] <intelikey> tamacracker how did you install it ?
[12:12] <Ace2016> intelikey: nvidia
[12:12] <tamacracker> through wget
[12:12] <Ace2016> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
[12:12] <intelikey> tamacracker wget only downloads things.
[12:12] <intelikey> dpkg ?
[12:12] <tamacracker> it wasn't through adept
[12:13] <intelikey> anyone can help Ace2016 with nvidia ?
[12:13] <tamacracker> there's a fuse link i used
[12:13] <tamacracker> that i had to type in wget
[12:13] <tamacracker> then added it to my source list
[12:13] <intelikey> tamacracker then use adept and uninstall it.
[12:14] <tamacracker> ok
[12:14] <momal> dammit >_<... still broken package GARR!!
[12:14] <intelikey> Ace2016 i've never setup nvidia.  i'm not the one to ask about that.
[12:15] <tamacracker> get rid of libfuse2 as well?
[12:15] <intelikey> momal what you did ?
[12:15] <intelikey> tamacracker yeah
[12:15] <tamacracker> k
[12:15] <momal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/
[12:15] <momal> trying to install libqt4-dev
[12:15] <intelikey> momal you know about nvidia ?
[12:16] <momal> yea i have nvidia drivers installed... latest ones i think.. or close to latest from the site
[12:16] <intelikey> momal that looks like a repos issue.
[12:16] <momal> I first noticed it 2 weeks ago when i needed it then but just forgot about it but now i need it >_<
[12:17] <_kuja_|sleep> bah, before I actually force myself out of my chair, which I should have done 5 minutes ago: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx  && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:17] <intelikey> momal put up you sources.list for me.
[12:17] <intelikey> _kuja_|sleep to late
[12:17] <intelikey> -:- SignOff Ace2016: #kubuntu (Remote closed the connection)
[12:18] <_kuja_|sleep> Wow, All the more proof that I need that sleep
[12:18] <intelikey> :)
[12:18] <momal> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37902/
[12:19] <tamacracker> #ubuntu
[12:19] <malik__> hi .......can any one tell me how do i remove amsn 0.96 from my computer?
[12:20] <Ace2016> intelikey: i'm back, x crashed
[12:20] <Azzco> malik__: That depends on how you installed it.
[12:20] <intelikey> Ace2016 sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:21] <Ace2016> intelikey: what does that do?
[12:21] <intelikey> momal try commenting out the last two byrl and scype  and sudo apt-get update  then try it.
[12:21] <intelikey> Ace2016 that's the anwser to your question about dri
[12:22] <tamacracker> is there any way i can check what modifications have been done to my drive, a while back i made my ntfs a read only, and i don't remember how i did it.
[12:22] <intelikey> Ace2016 you said you had the drivers installed already...  the full answer was "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx  && sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[12:22] <malik__> Azzco: i installed it from its website .......... it also installed something called manage 3rd party software in edgy's system foledr menu and nothin nothing works.............niether amsn nor that 3rdparty thingy which can supposedly remove the software
[12:23] <malik__> should i manually remove th directories?
[12:23] <Ace2016> intelikey: i already did that bit too
[12:24] <intelikey> tamacracker physically  or software changes ?
[12:24] <tamacracker> software
[12:24] <intelikey> Ace2016 thats about as far as i can go down that road.
[12:25] <tamacracker> i remember i followed instructions from a site, on how to access my windows xp drive as read only
[12:25] <tamacracker> but i dunno where i made the modifications
[12:25] <intelikey> tamacracker hmmm
[12:26] <malik__> fstab wud b my guess
[12:26] <Azzco> malik__: Did you download a .deb file? if I right click a .deb file I get a menu with optiones to install and uninstall
[12:26] <intelikey> malik__ not this time.
[12:26] <dave> ok intelikey io sort of workrd it out adept is still playing up it will download like evey second file after  i restart and stuffarond a bit more, but i got WINE on there and tryed to install itunes
[12:26] <dave> and it says it installed it but i cant find it?
[12:26] <intelikey> tried a manual mount and it's just not writable.  not even when it says it is.
[12:28] <Ace2016> How do i find which x display this is?
[12:28] <intelikey> dave i'm not much on wine.   (i don't do winsdows)   but check ~/.wine/
[12:28] <momal> intelikey: Still same :(
[12:28] <intelikey> momal hmmm  let me revisit the paste....   sec.
[12:29] <malik__> Azzco: no i downloaded the generic installer which is at the top of the download page............and it downloaded and installed something called "manage 3rd party software"
[12:29] <Azzco> Ohh.. I didn't check that out to hard myself... Sorry but I can't help you malik__ :(
[12:29] <intelikey> momal what was the package name ?
[12:29] <momal> libqt4-dev
[12:30] <intelikey> !libqt4-dev
[12:30] <ubotu> libqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 4087 kB, installed size 19996 kB
[12:30] <intelikey> hmmmm
[12:31] <malik__> okie thats hwere its installed............../usr/bin/amsn should i use rm command to remove it?
[12:31] <intelikey> !libglu1-xorg-dev
[12:31] <ubotu> libglu1-xorg-dev: transitional package for Debian etch. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:31] <intelikey> !libglu1-mesa-dev
[12:31] <ubotu> libglu1-mesa-dev: The OpenGL utility library -- development support files. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 780 kB
[12:32] <intelikey> momal run sudo apt-get libglu1-mesa-dev    lets see if it errors
[12:32] <momal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37903/
[12:35] <intelikey> momal ok.   i don't know for sure what to tell you.  that's what happens when you add repos that are not sync'd with ubuntu to install things that are out side the ubuntu repos.  it breaks things.
[12:35] <max_> what does the "swap" partition do?
[12:35] <malik__> okie thats hwere its installed............../usr/bin/amsn should i use rm command to remove it?...........can any one suggest?
[12:36] <momal> then how can i fix the only things i ended up installing were amarok and skype... beryl i compile from soure and cinerella i havn't had a chance yet to try
[12:37] <intelikey> what you have is  a newer/unrecognized version installed and either you will have to remove it (which will probably take the package you installed it for, with it)   or force a downgrade on that package.  or find some other third party way of doing it.
[12:37] <max_> what does the "swap" partition do?
[12:37] <momal> so i need to remove: libglu1-mesa
[12:38] <intelikey> momal i'd sujest sudo apt-get remove libglu1-mesa    yes.
[12:38] <intelikey> but i bet it takes skype with it.
[12:39] <momal> rofl.. its going to take kde as well and everything with kde
[12:39] <intelikey> hehhe actually yeah i just noticed it's xorg
[12:39] <tamacracker> muahahahaha
[12:39] <tamacracker> finally!!
[12:39] <tamacracker> i got it to work!
[12:39] <tamacracker> through 3g :D
[12:39] <intelikey> so you can try a forced downgrade
[12:39] <momal> but from the error it seems to want a older version when a newer one will be installed
[12:40] <intelikey> tamacracker glad for you.
[12:40] <momal> how i do a downgrade?
[12:40] <tamacracker> :D
[12:40] <intelikey> dl the package
[12:40] <intelikey> and sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade packagename.deb
[12:41] <intelikey> or force-all
[12:41] <momal> 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 <-- so thats the one i want ?
[12:41] <Ash-Fox> force-all might cause a depedency issue though?
[12:41] <intelikey> and you are asking for other things to bread when you do.
[12:41] <mirko> hi
[12:41] <momal> Ash-Fox I already have enough of them it wont hurt to have more lol!
[12:42] <intelikey> Ash-Fox he's alredy got broken packages.
[12:42] <mirko> where i can find repository for kubuntu 6.10 amd64?
[12:42] <momal> Ash-Fox: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37894/ <-- my prob
[12:42] <momal> now to find the package
[12:43] <intelikey> momal you can go ahead with the  "sudo apt-get remove libglu1-mesa"    then follow that with   "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop "   it's a little cleaner than a reload.
[12:44] <momal> O_O.. that will remove everything though
[12:45] <intelikey> momal and word to the wise.  in some cases it's better to compile what is not in the repos than to use repos that are not for your distro.
[12:45] <mirko> who can help me??? where i can find kubuntu repository??
[12:45] <mirko> for amd64?
[12:45] <intelikey> !repos | mirko
[12:45] <ubotu> mirko: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:45] <momal> umm skype was the only thing i installed... and they don't have source
[12:46] <momal> cinerella I havn't installed yet and i compile beryl
[12:46] <intelikey> figures....
[12:46] <malik__> can any one help with uninstalling amsn and manage 3rd party software thingy?
[12:46] <momal> i had this problem before i got skype
[12:47] <intelikey> well the added repos did it.
[12:47] <malik__> can any one help with uninstalling amsn and manage 3rd party software thingy............they both are giving me grief
[12:47] <jerp> mirko, here's a compiled list posted, you'll have to work it to your specs......   http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[12:47] <momal> but if i didn't install anything then how could they have screwed it up ?
[12:47] <max_> hi, i have a 2.2gb partiton as a hd, and when i go to mount it it says " An Unknown Error Has Occured" anyone know how to fix this?
[12:47] <intelikey> momal schedualed update ?
[12:48] <momal> eh?
[12:48] <momal> I have it update when i choose to update
[12:48] <mirko> thanks to all
[12:49] <malik__> can any one help with uninstalling amsn and manage 3rd party software thingy............they both are giving me grief
[12:49] <intelikey> see the thing is that if the package manager sees a newer version of * it installes.  it doesn't do a sanity check on that to make sure other packages will still be avalable
[12:49] <momal> I dont' update though.. I only update certain programs I want it to update and I always check what it updates.
[12:50] <momal> and the extra reps that were there were only added today and skype was 2 days ago.. amarok when i first installed edgy and beryl had never been uncommented it.. I added it there if the compile didn't work
[12:51] <intelikey> so i see people adding third party repos to their sources.list so they can get the latest and greatest.....  then they come here cause the package manager is hosed......
[12:51] <momal> I got the latest amarok.. just like a ton of other people seems to work for them still.. and I had the problem before any of the others were added
[12:52] <intelikey> momal you added repos   correct ?     did you install anything after that ?
[12:52] <momal> skype that was it... but i looked and all it installed was the skype package nothing else
[12:52] <momal> but I had this problem before I got skype
[12:53] <jerp> is it true to say that 'dev' files are for writing and not installing software?  eg. a user shouldn't need 'dev' files installed.
[12:53] <momal> dev files are for comping
[12:53] <momal> I need it to compile kdenlive
[12:53] <intelikey> well  where did you get  "libglu1-mesa-6.5.1+cvs20060824 ?
[12:54] <momal> no idea... if i knew I would have bom barden them with questios
[12:54] <Zamber> !composite
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <nuxil> how do i make a rar archive thats password protected ?
[12:54] <momal> if its newer why should the other package care :S
[12:56] <intelikey> Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is to be installed
[12:56] <nuxil> hu huuu
[12:56] <intelikey> momal do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:57] <cox377> is there a command to mount all drives [local] 
[12:57] <Hobbsee> intelikey: that's unofficial compiz breakage
[12:57] <sonicGB> mount -a
[12:57] <intelikey> Hobbsee hmm
[12:57] <cox377> sonicGB: cheers
[12:57] <intelikey> will that fix it ?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> intelikey: i believe you have to dpkg -i the deb you want ( the lower version) of libglu1-mesa, then upgrade
[12:58] <momal> so stop the update now ?
[12:58] <cox377> sonicGB: is there a command to list all mounted?
[12:58] <intelikey> Hobbsee k
[12:58] <intelikey> momal no
[12:58] <momal> k
[12:59] <nuxil> how can i do it ?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> intelikey: and give the lecture about unofficial repos breaking things, of course
[12:59] <sonicGB> cox377: "mount" with no options will list all, some say that using "df" (disk free" is a safer way... nothing breaks if you typo with 'df'
[12:59] <intelikey> :)
[12:59] <intelikey> we just had that.
[12:59] <Hobbsee> intelikey: oh good
[12:59] <momal> well it was skype or amarok that broke it since I didn't install after adding cinerella to it
[01:00] <momal> and it was happening long before i even added them in
[01:00] <sonicGB> cox377: both "mount" and "df" will list all ordinary mounted filesystems, in different ways...
[01:00] <intelikey> momal Hobbsee said "compiz"  you got that ?
[01:00] <cox377> has anyone here used a distro called 'insert'?
[01:01] <Hobbsee> intelikey: beryl's another possibility, but i think that was compiz breakage
[01:01] <momal> I never installed compiz... omfg.. that would mean .... hmm well I never installed compiz after i got edgy only compiled beryl...
[01:01] <momal> but is this possible: installing compiz... later removing it... updating to edgy (when edgy was released).. then going onto beryl
[01:02] <momal> possible it stayed broken since then ?
[01:02] <intelikey> momal see Hobbsee.   i gota go.
[01:02] <Hobbsee> momal: yes, it does.
[01:03] <nuxil> i need to make a rar file thats password protected.. how can i do  it
[01:03] <max_> hi, i have a 2gb partition on my hd and linux sees it as a sotrage device, but when i go to mount it it says "an unknow error has occured" how can i fix this?
[01:03] <momal> ahh.. thats probly why then. Hmm I think the update just updated my kernel means im going to need to run nvidia installer again. So whats next how I fix the problem ?
[01:08] <cox377> !insert
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about insert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <cesko> Has someone Omnibook 4150 ?
[01:08] <max_> hi, i have a 2gb partition on my hd and linux sees it as a sotrage device, but when i go to mount it it says "an unknow error has occured" how can i fix this?
[01:11] <vge> hi, where does phpmysqladmin look for automatic logout time? I want to disable it or atleast make it allot longer, i hate to allways relog
[01:12] <cox377> !ntfsmount
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <momal> yay thanks intelikey and Hobbsee seems that it isntalled now...
[01:13] <cox377> i'm running this command
[01:14] <cox377> mount /mnt/hda1
[01:14] <cox377> but it says it cant find ntfsmount
[01:17] <mindspin> !ntfs
[01:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:26] <max_> how can you restore a file you edited to its state before you modified it
[01:28] <r4wbeRRy> hi
[01:36] <malik__> max_: check in the same directory where the modifief file is n there u shud see the old file with ~ and partially same name........u can delete the current one n rename the backed up on to the original name n have it back
[01:37] <malik__> ooooooh well he is gone
[01:37] <malik__> what is thios?........a net spliut?
[01:47] <cyberkiller> hello
[01:48] <cyberkiller> does anyone knows how to install firefox on kubuntu6.10?
[01:49] <llutz> sudo aptitude install firefox
[02:13] <malik__> can any one tell me how to copy a folder to /usr/share/amsn folder.........its not letting me do it by drag and drop........do i need to use commandline and if so then can any one tell me the command to use?
[02:15] <Jucato> malik__: what are you trying to copy to /usr/share/amsn? that folder is owned by root so you need superuser privilege to do that.
[02:15] <Froki> ach ehrlich
[02:16] <Froki> haett ich jetz nich gedacht
[02:16] <Jucato> !de
[02:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:17] <malik__> Jucato: i am trying to put couple of plugins into that amsn foilder so that they are available system wide
[02:17] <Jucato> malik__: ah. you will need to run Konqueror as root with "kdesu konqueror"
[02:18] <malik__> so i type that in konsole first to initiate konqi with root thingy?
[02:19] <Jucato> malik__: or press Alt+F2 and type the command there. be very careful when using Konqueror as root, and remember to close it once you're done
[02:23] <cloakable> Anyone know a way to hide the xine video window when playing music?
[02:25] <malik__> okie one more thingy..............is there anything called dictionary plugin for konqi coz the one in it already is now asking for money
[02:26] <Jucato> what do you mean asking for money?
[02:27] <Jucato> none of the stuff that's available from Kubuntu or KDE asks for payment
[02:29] <ubuntu> !nvidia
[02:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:29] <malik__> well when i try to find the meaning of a work by selecting meriam webnster ditionary in the search box it takes me to result page of dictionary asking for money
[02:29] <malik__> 29.95
[02:29] <Lynoure> malik__: use dict
[02:29] <lotusleaf> malik__: alt+f2 and type kdict
[02:31] <malik__> lotusleaf: it says cant run command
[02:31] <Jucato> malik__: that is not a dictionary program. it's merely a search bar, like Google in Firefox
[02:31] <lotusleaf> malik__: then you should install it :)
[02:31] <Jucato> lotusleaf: kdict isn't installed by default
[02:31] <malik__> from adept?
[02:31] <lotusleaf> malik__: sure, or use synaptic like I do
[02:32] <Jucato> malik__: that search bar in Konqueror doesn't launch any program. it just searches the web. although I'm not sure why the meriam-webster search bar would ask for payment
[02:32] <daedra> !gnomad
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <daedra> !zen
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <daedra> !ipod
[02:32] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:33] <lotusleaf> !hwdb
[02:33] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Hardware Database can be found at http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[02:33] <malik__> oki is there any way i can add some dictionary search engine to the konqi search bar ?
[02:35] <malik__> i want to add amazon.com and dictionary.com to the search box in konqi
[02:36] <daedra> http://www.linux.ie/articles/tutorials/zen.php :)
[02:41] <RoKFiT> i just tried to install feisty, and rebooted, and it loaded edgy!  is there a way to format the drive before i install?
[02:41] <malik__> is fiesty any good or i should stick with edgy for the time being?
[02:41] <RoKFiT> i can't tell you yet
[02:41] <RoKFiT> lol
[02:42] <Jucato> malik__: stick with Edgy
[02:42] <Jucato> feisty is still alpha
[02:42] <RoKFiT> Jucato: how do i wipe the drive before I install feisty
[02:42] <Jucato> RoKFiT: just reformat it using the partitioner in the installer
[02:43] <RoKFiT> which is what?
[02:43] <RoKFiT> oh
[02:43] <RoKFiT> brb
[02:43] <malik__> oki......so what is the significanse of having separate / and /home partition?
[02:44] <malik__> some ppl say that this way ur personal settings remain in tact when u upgrade or install new version of linux
[02:45] <malik__> how does this work?
[02:45] <Jucato> malik__: your data and personal settings are safe and preserved whenever you need to reinstall or upgrade
[02:47] <malik__> u mean if i had separate /home partition and root partition........ if any thing goes wrong and i reinstall or say i had dapper n then i got edgy n installed it not only my settings n themes n stuff would remain the same but also i ll get all the new features of edgy?
[02:47] <ubuntu> i'm on live cd, how do i format the drive?
[02:48] <ubuntu> how do i format with the live cd
[02:50] <ubuntu> nobody knows?
[02:51] <malik__> i think u can do it thru system settings
[02:58] <Froki> gparted
[02:59] <fannagoganna> hi, running kubuntu, for some reason all my fonts look incredibly bitmapped
[02:59] <fannagoganna> anyone know how to fix this?
[03:00] <ubuntu> i'm trying to install fiesty, but every time i reboot, my system is booting into edgy
[03:00] <malik__> bimapped?
[03:00] <fannagoganna> bitmapped
[03:00] <Froki> ich weis es
[03:00] <malik__> bitmapped?......what does that mean?>
[03:00] <Froki> aber da du leider kein deutsch sprichts kann ich es dir depp auch net erklaeren
[03:00] <fannagoganna> means it looks very grainy
[03:00] <momal> !lmad
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lmad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <malik__> !de
[03:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:01] <momal> !info lmad
[03:01] <ubotu> Package lmad does not exist in any distro I know
[03:01] <momal> Anyone know where I might beable to get lmad from? | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmad
[03:01] <dark> good afternoon
[03:01] <Froki> hurensohn
[03:01] <dark> i need help about kubuntu
[03:02] <Froki> ich auch
[03:02] <Froki> da kann bestimmt deine mutti helfen
[03:02] <Jucato> !de
[03:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:02] <malik__> momal: is sound related then probably u r looking for gstreamer mad codecs
[03:02] <Froki> taj
[03:02] <Froki> dumme sache
[03:03] <Froki> i have a monster cock
[03:03] <malik__> whatttttttttttttttttt
[03:03] <Froki> who want to see him??
[03:03] <dark> i have installed kubuntu but i dont know the "su" password
[03:03] <Froki> sudo su
[03:03] <Froki> userpw
[03:03] <malik__> dark: thats ur normal user password
[03:03] <Jucato> !sudo | dark
[03:03] <ubotu> dark: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:03] <Jucato> dark: you just use your user's password
[03:04] <dark> ok tnx
[03:04] <Froki> and what is with my monster cock
[03:04] <Froki> no one want to see him??
[03:04] <Jucato> Froki: stop it
[03:04] <malik__> Jucato: some one sent me ms office .pps slide show how do i play in k office?
[03:05] <Froki> can't stop it nanana nana can't stop it
[03:05] <momal> !language
[03:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:05] <Jucato> malik__: use KPresenter (KOffice) or OpenOffice.org Impress
[03:05] <malik__> Jucato: it opens up but i wanna play it like a slide show
[03:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy All! :)
[03:06] <morgWork> there wouldn't happen to be a kubuntu security feed out there anywhere, would there
[03:06] <Froki> fuck you all
[03:06] <Jucato> !ops
[03:06] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[03:06] <Froki> no fuck me all
[03:06] <Froki> pleas
[03:06] <Flitzekacke> bam
[03:06] <Flitzekacke> suck my dick
[03:06] <Froki> bam ba-bam
[03:06] <morgWork> and if anyone mentions a mailing list, I will bonk them with a Froki
[03:07] <Froki> and my too
[03:07] <Flitzekacke> lutscht meinen schwanz
[03:07] <Froki> du hurensohn
[03:07] <Flitzekacke> hart
[03:07] <Froki> deine mutter stinkt nach fisch
[03:07] <Froki> ja ne
[03:07] <momal> Anyone here use kdenlive?
[03:07] <Flitzekacke> eure eltern sind brder
[03:07] <Flitzekacke> yes i
[03:07] <Froki> yes
[03:07] <Flitzekacke> its crap
[03:07] <morgWork> these guys must be the debian devs who didn't get hired :)
[03:07] <Froki> kdelive is fucking shit
[03:07] <Flitzekacke> throw ur pc out of the window
[03:07] <Froki> ofcurse
[03:07] <BluesKaj> !ops
[03:07] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[03:07] <Froki> yes
[03:07] <Froki> do it
[03:08] <Flitzekacke> and jump after it
[03:08] <Froki> thats a goooood idee
[03:08] <Froki> idea
[03:08] <Flitzekacke> idea
[03:08] <Froki> scheis deutsch englisch kram
[03:08] <morgWork> chris, quit being a dick
[03:08] <Flitzekacke> and then ask ur mother for a blowjob
[03:08] <Froki> hab ich doch schon
[03:08] <BluesKaj> !de
[03:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:08] <Flitzekacke> toll
[03:08] <Flitzekacke> ich bin so aufgeregt
[03:09] <Froki> was?
[03:09] <Froki> ich auch
[03:09] <Flitzekacke> so i squirt into ur faces
[03:09] <Froki> i stack my monter cock in my pcmcia slot
[03:09] <Froki> no its broken
[03:09] <Froki> now its broken
[03:09] <ubuntu> jucato
[03:09] <hdibani> ok i leave this room
[03:09] <ubuntu> you there?
[03:09] <Froki> ok
[03:09] <Flitzekacke> rate my poo guys
[03:09] <hdibani> some guys are very childish here
[03:09] <Jucato> malik__: press F12 or go to the Slideshow menu
[03:09] <Jucato> ubuntu: yes?
[03:09] <Froki> deine mudda
[03:09] <Flitzekacke> lutsch riesenschwnze
[03:09] <Froki> wir vertreiben sie alles
[03:10] <Froki> shit
[03:10] <Flitzekacke> oo nice work morgWork
[03:10] <Froki> wir wurden ignored
[03:10] <ubuntu> uh yes, i'm upgrading from edgy to feisty and on reboot it goes to edgy
[03:10] <Flitzekacke> let it
[03:10] <Froki> idiot
[03:10] <Flitzekacke> its not good
[03:10] <morgWork> [09:10:03]  <Flitzekacke> oo nice work morgWork
[03:10] <morgWork> [09:10:04]  [Ignore]  Added Flitzekacke!* to your ignore list.
[03:10] <Flitzekacke> it will destroy ur pc
[03:10] <ubuntu> i'm on live cd
[03:10] <morgWork> that was perfect timing
[03:10] <Froki> i will help hi,
[03:10] <Froki> him
[03:11] <Froki> morgWork is a fuckin son of a biatsch
[03:11] <ubuntu> jucato?
[03:11] <morgWork> alright, where was I? anyone know if there's a kubuntu security rss feed out there anywhere? initial google searches  have turned up nothing
[03:11] <Flitzekacke> and i suck the cook of ur mother
[03:11] <BluesKaj> froki !language
[03:11] <The_Machine> "Mail Notification Properties" is automatically popping up on KDE startup.  How do i make it so that this doesn't happen anymore?
[03:11] <momal> Froki Flitzekacke: Kunt u enkel weggaan?
[03:11] <Froki> ach shit was soll das
[03:11] <morgWork> BluesKaj: he knows exactly what he's doing
[03:11] <BluesKaj> !language
[03:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:11] <Flitzekacke> yes froki plz be not so childy. be an adult and run nacked trough ur garden
[03:12] <Froki> eure mtter lutschen schwnze in der hlle
[03:12] <Froki> ok
[03:12] <Jucato> ubuntu: have you completely upgraded to feisty? changed our sources.list and done dist-upgrade?
[03:12] <Froki> i will do that
[03:12] <Flitzekacke> und lutsch dann meinen schwanz
[03:12] <Froki> no
[03:12] <Flitzekacke> doch
[03:12] <Froki> i suck your mothers dick
[03:12] <ubuntu> i don't want to upgrade, i want to reinstall to feisty
[03:12] <Jucato> Froki, Flitzekacke: please take your conversation elsewhere
[03:12] <ubuntu> fresh install
[03:12] <Flitzekacke> sonst muss ich die hurenshne aus dem channel hier dazu auffordern
[03:12] <Flitzekacke> hals maul Jucato
[03:12] <Froki> shut up jucato
[03:12] <BluesKaj> yeah some ppl have a hard time saying what they mean , cuz their command of the laguage is restricted curse and swear words
[03:12] <Jucato> ubuntu: then just use the installer in the live cd.
[03:13] <Flitzekacke> deine mutti BluesKaj
[03:13] <ubuntu> i am but on reboot it boots to edgy
[03:13] <Flitzekacke> let it
[03:13] <Flitzekacke> it will destroy xour pc
[03:13] <Froki> do it
[03:13] <Flitzekacke> *your
[03:13] <Flitzekacke> ihr habt alle tropfige fotzen
[03:13] <Froki> englische tastatur is shit was
[03:13] <Flitzekacke> ne hab ich net mehr
[03:14] <Froki> aso ja klar
[03:14] <fannagoganna> hi, i want to ignore some deb packages. Do I do this through dpkg or apt?
[03:14] <fannagoganna> and if either, how do i do it?
[03:14] <Froki> idoito
[03:14] <Flitzekacke> let it
[03:14] <Froki> apt
[03:14] <Flitzekacke> jump onto your pc
[03:14] <DeadS0ul> i bought new speakers and I need to baptize'em
[03:14] <Flitzekacke> its better
[03:14] <Froki> apt-get remove gnome
[03:14] <DeadS0ul> does anyone have garden of evil by iron butterfly?
[03:14] <fannagoganna> then how do i do it through apt?
[03:14] <Flitzekacke> apt-get remove gnome
[03:14] <fannagoganna> to ignore certain packages -- don't download them?
[03:14] <Froki> apt-get remove gnome
[03:15] <Froki> its the easyest wa
[03:15] <furryballs> sudo apt-get remove kde
[03:15] <Flitzekacke> way
[03:15] <BluesKaj> DeadS0ul, what kind of spkrs ?
[03:15] <momal> fannagoganna: just ignore them..
[03:15] <momal> ugh
[03:15] <momal> !ops
[03:15] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[03:15] <DeadS0ul> the jbl spot =D
[03:15] <Froki> momal is a hurensohn
[03:15] <DeadS0ul> big punch ina  small box
[03:15] <Flitzekacke> DeadS0ul: ich hab deine mutti gepoppt
[03:15] <Froki> das is langweilig
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> momal, what are you !ops ing for?
[03:16] <DeadS0ul> I don't speak german lol
[03:16] <BluesKaj> cool, JBLs rock...used have a pr in my DJ business
[03:16] <Flitzekacke> DeadS0ul: dann lern es
[03:16] <Flitzekacke> mutterficker
[03:16] <Flitzekacke> du bist dumm und hast ka
[03:16] <mindspin> he#s swearing talking dirty in german
[03:16] <Froki> uns lieber in nen chat fr kleine mdchen gehen und die anbagern
[03:16] <DeadS0ul> hahaha
[03:16] <DeadS0ul> I think i got the mutterficker bit
[03:16] <Flitzekacke> klein
[03:16] <momal> Kamping_kaiser: there are random spammers here thats why
[03:16] <Flitzekacke> 9 jhrige?
[03:16] <Flitzekacke> bin ich dabei
[03:16] <lotusleaf> !ops
[03:16] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[03:16] <Froki> i don't speak any word german
[03:16] <Froki> heil hitler kamerad
[03:16] <denny> I don't either
[03:16] <denny> okay, that one worked
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> momal, meaning Flitzekacke ?
[03:17] <mindspin> now they are talking about intimidating children
[03:17] <momal> and Froki
[03:17] <paulw_vm> grade school must be close in the mutterlund
[03:17] <Flitzekacke> 5min vor der zeit is des dt soldatens pnktlichkeit
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> denny, can Flitzekacke go too please?
[03:17] <denny> I suggest people stick to English for a while
[03:17] <lotusleaf> denny: thx
[03:17] <denny> anyone I don't understand is going to be leaving.
[03:17] <Flitzekacke> im not bad
[03:17] <Flitzekacke> i love u all
[03:17] <mindspin> du bist ein dummschwtzer
[03:17] <Flitzekacke> i want to suck ur big cocks
[03:17] <Flitzekacke> if u have some
[03:18] <denny> anyone else?
[03:18] <momal> yay :).. finally admin ^^
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> those look like it.
[03:18] <llutz> not all germans are like these... :)
[03:18] <Jucato> thank you denny :)
[03:18] <denny> okay, I'll hang around - highlight me if you get more problems
[03:18] <paulw_vm> llutz, we know that... :)
[03:18] <Jucato> thank you :)
[03:19] <imbrandon> hrm , i'm a tad late
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> *grin* just a little
[03:19] <Jucato> imbrandon: just a bit :)
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyway, place is fairly opped now
[03:19] <momal> Has anyone here used kdenlive ?... It seems I get this mlt error when starting it up and everything compiled fine :S.. and the website doesn't have any help with it :(
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> enjoy your time all :)
[03:20] <BluesKaj> punks ... disruption is fun for them
[03:20] <The_Machine> "Mail Notification Properties" is automatically popping up on KDE startup.  How do i make it so that this doesn't happen anymore?
[03:21] <The_Machine> me me!
[03:21] <The_Machine> heh
[03:21] <Jucato> heh
[03:21] <The_Machine> KDE startup is a weird beast.
[03:21] <Jucato> do you close that Mail Notification Properties window before you logout?
[03:21] <The_Machine> I looked in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:21] <The_Machine> Jucato: yes
[03:22] <Jucato> hm....
[03:22] <BluesKaj> yeah, good idea if ppl would ask again, after all the distraction
[03:22] <The_Machine> yeah, i don't understand
[03:23] <The_Machine> now, i was originally running ubuntu, and then installed the 'kubuntu' package
[03:23] <The_Machine> so it could be left over from when i was using gnome
[03:23] <The_Machine> but it didn't do this until a few days ago.
[03:23] <malik__> i can recieve files from some contacts but i cant send pics or any files to any one........i am behind an adsl router with firewall and NAT enabled on it
[03:24] <malik__> how do i make my amsn to send out files?
[03:24] <BluesKaj> malik__,, get rid of the Firewall
[03:24] <The_Machine> Blues is right - your NAT acts as a firewall
[03:24] <malik__> heheheh then i wud ber inviting viruses and spy wares .........altho it wud be alot less amount than windows
[03:24] <The_Machine> as long as your computer isn't in your DMZ
[03:25] <The_Machine> malik__: spyware?  viruses?
[03:25] <The_Machine> what OS are you using?
[03:25] <BluesKaj> yer behind a router , 99% of them have hardware FWs
[03:26] <malik__> i am using edgy
[03:26] <malik__> kubuntu edy with kde 3.5.5
[03:26] <BluesKaj> what email prog , malik__?
[03:26] <malik__> amsn
[03:26] <malik__> i can recieve pics from other ppl but i cant send out
[03:27] <BluesKaj> you need to setup port mapping/forwarding on amsn (I think)
[03:27] <malik__> which is strange considering it should have been the other way around
[03:28] <Jucato> it's possible to block outgoing, but accept incoming, using firewalls/ports, I think
[03:29] <malik__> so any solutions or if u guyz can point me in the right direction
[03:30] <BluesKaj> I have amsn...lemme check the setup options/requirements
[03:30] <momal> malik__: If you don't find some sort of solution you could try kopete and try sending files with it :)
[03:31] <BluesKaj> or dcc on IRC
[03:32] <momal> YAYA... finally got kdenlive to compile... now hopefully it works how i want ^^
[03:36] <jfrench> Hey ppl, im a long time ubuntu user, and i decided to use kubuntu insted, can anyone please tell me if i can just install beryl the same way as in ubuntu
[03:37] <jfrench> and also, tell me how to turn off those balloon notifications on the tool bar, this is the first time im really using kde
[03:37] <malik__> !beryl
[03:37] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:37] <BluesKaj> malik__, go into amsn prefernces/connections , you'll see satrting point transfers , the default port is TCP 6891 .. you'll have to open that port on your router
[03:38] <SharkP> hi
[03:38] <malik__> BluesKaj: Hmmm.........i dont know how to open that port
[03:39] <SharkP> Is there anyone who want to help me?
[03:39] <jfrench> Depends what is your problem :P
[03:39] <SharkP> listen
[03:39] <SharkP> I've installed aMule
[03:39] <jfrench> :O
[03:40] <SharkP> but,when I open the program
[03:40] <jfrench> go on.....
[03:40] <SharkP> the window is all black
[03:40] <SharkP> and the same situation is for Freeciv
[03:40] <BluesKaj> malik__, do you have your router access? it'll be an addressbar like "mynetwork" in your browser
[03:40] <SharkP> why?
[03:40] <beast> Riddell: ping
[03:40] <jfrench> SharkP: Has this always happend, or did it suddenly happen one day
[03:41] <malik__> i go into router from 192.168.1.1 n then typing my passwd
[03:41] <SharkP> No,this happen everyday
[03:42] <jfrench> SharkP: What graphics card do you have? And you have the rite drivers installed yes?
[03:42] <jfrench> right*
[03:42] <SharkP> I have the ATI Radeon Card
[03:42] <linuxpeace> hello everybody
[03:42] <SharkP> At the moment I don't remember the model...
[03:42] <jfrench> Doesnt really matter what model :P
[03:43] <BluesKaj> ok malik__ go to port mapping
[03:43] <SharkP> I think I've installed the driver
[03:43] <SharkP> How can I control?
[03:43] <SharkP> Adept?
[03:43] <linuxpeace> can ou read me?
[03:44] <linuxpeace> or am i silenced?
[03:44] <jfrench> We can read you
[03:44] <BluesKaj> yes linuxpeace
[03:44] <linuxpeace> ok thanks
[03:44] <linuxpeace> guys i am happy
[03:44] <linuxpeace> i am a free man , my first day in 10 years without fucking microsoft
[03:44] <linuxpeace> from today on i only work with linux stuff, nothing else
[03:45] <linuxpeace> i feel good.
[03:45] <SharkP> linuxpeace:I know the feel...
[03:45] <jfrench> Congrats
[03:45] <jfrench> I made that step years ago
[03:45] <SharkP> I've been using Kubuntu for a month
[03:45] <SharkP> and I fell
[03:45] <linuxpeace> was not so difficult as i expected
[03:45] <SharkP> FREE
[03:46] <SharkP> jfrench:let's come back to my problem
[03:46] <linuxpeace> feeling is that my system is stable, and i can concentrate in my work and not in replacing some stupid icons or downloading a stupid windows tuning software, blabla, hehe
[03:46] <BluesKaj> been on kubuntu for 5 mos, but I'm still gutless, Haven't  gotten rid of my windows partition :)
[03:46] <jfrench> SharkP: sure
[03:46] <linuxpeace> all that useless shit we had to eat from microsoft during decades. game over now bill hitler gates
[03:46] <SharkP> what's driver's name for my card?
[03:47] <jfrench> I keep my windoze part on so i can play Dod and Company of heroes :P
[03:47] <momal> BluesKaj: I have been using linux for 5 years and I have windows still... only for gaming... If i can't get it to work under cedega :p..
[03:47] <jfrench> Im unsure for ATIs.. Ill look for you
[03:47] <SharkP> thanx
[03:47] <jfrench> SharkP: Im a full nVidia fan
[03:48] <SharkP> me too, but I had to buy a pc ehit ATI card... :(
[03:48] <SharkP> *whit
[03:49] <SharkP> damned keybord...
[03:49] <Admiral_Chicago> good morning all
[03:49] <jfrench> Lol what timezone?
[03:49] <SharkP> jfrench:stupid question:are u french,jfrench?
[03:50] <danny500> is anyone here good with Horde email?
[03:50] <danny500> #horde
[03:50] <jfrench> What do you mean?
[03:50] <danny500> Hi Jucato
[03:50] <SharkP> are you come from France?
[03:50] <SharkP> *do
[03:50] <Jucato> hi danny500
[03:50] <SharkP> you came from France?
[03:50] <abattoir> hi Jucato
[03:51] <linuxpeace> i think during my 10 years with windows i spent 95% of all that time, keeping that windows machine running and rebooting and 5% for productive work
[03:51] <Jucato> abattoir!!!!
[03:51] <jfrench> Im Australian, but i originaly came from Swit
[03:51] <BluesKaj> yeah , there are some video codecs that nero handles better than devede and wifey wants me to keep windows "for emergencies" ...she seems to think kubuntu is so different that wouldn't be able to use it... and she doe shave her own windows box  :)
[03:51] <jfrench> French is my last name :P
[03:51] <SharkP> Ah,Ok!
[03:51] <SharkP> I come from Italy
[03:51] <danny500> yo Jucato, you any good with Horde email
[03:51] <SharkP> my English teacher could kill me...
[03:51] <Jucato> danny500: nope... sorry
[03:51] <jfrench> whys that?
[03:51] <danny500> damn
[03:51] <BluesKaj> Canada here
[03:52] <linuxpeace> and with all that money that i have spent for hitler gates gargabe products i could have bought 2 houses
[03:52] <danny500> I'm Canada to
[03:52] <linuxpeace> silly me, haha
[03:52] <danny500> Represent
[03:52] <jfrench> AUSTRALIA FTW!
[03:52] <BluesKaj> where danny500?
[03:52] <BluesKaj> I'm near Sudbury Ont
[03:52] <danny500> Welland Ontario, you
[03:52] <danny500> nm
[03:52] <SharkP> Italy is the football world champion!
[03:52] <danny500> lol
[03:52] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[03:52] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:52] <Admiral_Chicago> :P
[03:53] <SharkP> ok,ok...
[03:53] <danny500> Hey, Blue, you don't live that far away from me
[03:53] <jfrench> SharkP: im not to clear on this ATI driver stuff, im pretty sure its just called ati, Best cheack with another person who knows ATI back to front, i know nothing, ask me when you buy a nVidea :P
[03:53] <BluesKaj> hehe , cmon ubotu , were getting acquainted ...it's good for ppl
[03:53] <jfrench> nvidia*
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !ati
[03:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> that might also help
[03:53] <jfrench> !ham
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ham - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <linuxpeace> i am reading extreeeeeeeeeeemly good reviews from PCLinuxOS, guys. anyone tried it yet?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> SharkP, which AYI card?
[03:53] <SharkP> ok,so, See you soon! ;)
[03:53] <BluesKaj> ATI
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> or lspci in the command line
[03:54] <danny500> Yeah, not like were waisting anyones time, no one needs help right now
[03:54] <SharkP> BluesKaj:radeon
[03:54] <SharkP> but I don't remember the model
[03:54] <BluesKaj> SharkP, hang on i have site for you
[03:54] <danny500> Hey, BlueKaj > danieldewitt75@gmail.com
[03:54] <SharkP> thanks
[03:54] <danny500> lol
[03:55] <danny500> hey, SharkP what radeon card you have?
[03:55] <SharkP> oh,I don't Know!
[03:55] <SharkP> or better
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> linuxpeace: nope haven't used it
[03:55] <SharkP> I don't remember
[03:55] <SharkP> Is it important?
[03:55] <BluesKaj> SharkP, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[03:56] <SharkP> thanx
[03:56] <SharkP> Bye to everybody
[03:56] <SharkP> Forza Azzurri!
[03:56] <BluesKaj> Jucato, what the device list command ?
[03:57] <Jucato> !uuid
[03:57] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:57] <TheGateKeeper> linuxpeace, the advantage over (k)ubuntu is that all your multimedia, flash etc works out of the box, the downside is there are not as many packages as (k)ubuntu
[03:57] <BluesKaj> thx Jucato
[03:58] <linuxpeace> gatekeeper. i got it
[03:58] <BluesKaj> no, I mean existing hardware
[03:59] <Jucato> BluesKaj: um.. kinfocenter? not really sure
[03:59] <BluesKaj> sorry my request was worded incorrectly
[03:59] <linuxpeace> ISA pnp net work cards are not supported?
[03:59] <linuxpeace> ne2000..i probably need a driver, i guess
[04:00] <linuxpeace> realtek pci was no problem for kubuntu..auto detected..
[04:00] <linuxpeace> ISA rest in peace ..or can i use it somehow?
[04:05] <linux_> hey guys I am busy with a script, just with the console. how can I make a script so that I only see my ip ?
[04:06] <MukiEX> linux_ yoru IP?
[04:06] <MukiEX> local or 'net?
[04:07] <ScislaC> is there a way to request software be added to the repos for Feisty?
[04:07] <linux_> yes, local
[04:07] <ScislaC> (specifically I want to request ktoon)
[04:07] <MukiEX> ktoon? o_0
[04:07] <MukiEX> Oooh.
[04:07] <MukiEX> Sorry, mixed up questions.
[04:08] <linux_> :P
[04:08] <MukiEX> linux_ : http://bash.cyberciti.biz/script/read-ip-address.bash.php
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ScislaC: check out MOTU/FAQ iirc
[04:08] <syntaxx> what is the pacific standard time now? ^^
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> @now Seattle
[04:09] <Admiral_Chicago> @now LA
[04:09] <kubuntu> 7:08 PST
[04:09] <syntaxx> thanks
[04:11] <sparr> where can i find the kubuntu logo as a svg?  i need to print a high res version
[04:11] <scythe128> question:  How do I download all the updates to one computer, apply them, and then take the files I downloaded to another computer and apply them.  The other computer does not have any net connectivity
[04:15] <sparr> where can i find a higher res version of this?  http://kubuntu.org/art/kubuntu-edgy.png
[04:17] <sparr> aha, .svg in the same place
[04:20] <Kabal> is it possible to make the panel-hiding button transparent?
[04:21] <aseigo> no
[04:22] <Kabal> aah that's a shame..
[04:23] <Kabal> weird anyway.. everthing can be set to transparent except the hiding buttons..
[04:23] <Kabal> but thanx for the quick reply :)
[04:29] <luisfsm_> ma
[04:40] <achem> kant reme the name of the package that sets kubuntu up for compiling /make etc.
[04:41] <achem> n e 1?
[04:43] <achem> got it: build-essential
[04:47] <po8Freak> Hi all, stopping in to test HydraIRC for windoze on a USB stick :) Oh, since I'm here I hate Gnome. Bye!
[04:50] <danny500> hey, how would I find the info of a server from a website?
[04:51] <mindspin> what info are you looking for?
[04:51] <danny500> domain, IP address and port info
[04:51] <mindspin> whois domainname
[04:51] <danny500> www.circlemanagement.com
[04:52] <mindspin> when you do ping circlemanagement.com you#ll get the ip
[04:52] <danny500> ok hold on
[04:53] <NamShub> k3b never instaled properly, and now it cant uninstall
[04:53] <mindspin> nslookup circlemanagement.com gives also some info
[04:53] <NamShub> how can i remove it? dpkg -r --force-all wont work either
[04:55] <malik__> hi there can any one play this link n tell me if the media is playing in their browser?
[04:55] <malik__> http://www.smh.com.au/multimedia/warlord/start.html
[04:56] <monique> hi all, how can I switch back to the standard kdm login prompte (not the kubuntu one) ?
[04:59] <NamShub> ok found it
[04:59] <kilrae> should i bounce spam or just discard it?
[05:03] <Rikki> Hi all anyone able to assist me with a Install (totally new to Linux) I'm wanting to keep my M$ install till i get to grips with things, any assistance would be greatly apreciated
[05:04] <NamShub> Rikki: any specific questions?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Rikki: How mush free space do you have on your hard drive(s)?
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> !partition
[05:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, that isn't a good guide at all
[05:04] <Rikki> NamShub, not sure how to get it to identify the partitions i have to date so that it dosnt wipe my old MS data
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Rikki: how to identify them in Linux? or partions in general?
[05:06] <Rikki> DaSkreech identify in linux if possible.. on my Sys, its showing that i have 2 HSS both 200gb, which is correct... but not showing the partitions.. i have all my music and important data spread across the partitions that exist on both HDD
[05:06] <Rikki> HSS= HDD*
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Rikki: open System Settings and look at Disks and file systems
[05:07] <Rikki> DaSkreech thanks will take a look at it now
[05:08] <Rikki> DaSkreech, many thanks thats showingthe partitions.. now to figue how to get the install file to install on the partition i want (is that at all possible?)
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Rikki: A little knowledge may help here
[05:10] <lakhia> Can someone help me with an annoying kde behavior please?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> Under UNix all real life things (monitors, keyboards, mice, soundcards, hard drives) are kept in the /dev folder
[05:10] <DaSkreech> lakhia: You WANT an annoying KDE behaviour?
[05:10] <lakhia> DaSkreech: well, a cure from it, rather!
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Rikki: Hard drives on an IDE chain are all called /dev/hd<something>
[05:11] <Rikki> DaSkreech as is the case with all things... :) I think i'll read up as much as i can before going further as the data i have on the M$ installs are not backed up as yet
[05:11] <lakhia> DaSkreech: the hover effect on the start menu drives me nuts and I can't find the system setting to turn it off
[05:12] <aseigo> lakhia: in the panels config, appearance, "show mouse over effects"
[05:12] <lakhia> aseigo: Thanks, Aaron, let me look for it.
[05:13] <lakhia> aseigo: which is?
[05:13] <aseigo> namely figuring that their personal opinion defines the judgement for any given feature ;-P
[05:14] <lakhia> aseigo: well, I think the feature is meant well. But I think the delay is not long enuff. It shows even when all I want to do is click on it
[05:14] <aseigo> lakhia: yeah, that's been increased in 3.5.something
[05:14] <DaSkreech> aseigo: It depends on how much it tiches
[05:14] <aseigo> DaSkreech: "can someone help me with a kde behaviour that is annoying me" <-- ah, so much nicer.
[05:15] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Yeah I agree unless yo've found over whelming opinion that the behavious should not be that way
[05:15] <DaSkreech>  Like Ctrl+N closing the application without saving
[05:16] <lakhia> aseigo: my apologies ... generally the two sentences are equivalent for most people! :-)
[05:16] <aseigo> DaSkreech: damn. and i was about to commit that exact feature. maybe i shouldn't. hmm
[05:17] <aseigo> lakhia: not when you're the person writing the software and hearing it from both sides of the debate for any given feature on a daily basis =)
[05:17] <aseigo> evidently god is very confused as he rarely gets above 60-70% consistency ;)
[05:18] <lakhia> aseigo: :D
[05:19] <lakhia> aseigo: ok, under "look and feel" then "Appearance" ... now i have several taps
[05:19] <lakhia> aseigo: er, tabs
[05:19] <lakhia> aseigo: sorry, choices on left side
[05:20] <lakhia> aseigo: Style? Window Decorations? Which one has "show mouse over effects"?
[05:21] <aseigo> lakhia: no. *panel configuration*
[05:22] <lakhia> aseigo: ahhh, no wonder I couldn't find it ... thanks, that's so much better! :)
[05:22] <NamShub> KControl > Desktop > Panels > Appearance > General
[05:22] <NamShub> see, that was easy :P
[05:32] <Simian__> it's my birthday today
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Wohoo?
[05:34] <icheyne> !birthday
[05:34] <ubotu> birthday: Display information about pending events on login. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-9.1 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB
[05:34] <icheyne> ;)
[05:34] <Simian__> icheyne: thanls
[05:34] <Simian__> thanks
[05:36] <astronaute> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=652419#p652419 (is it possible to install kubuntu on core 2 duo please ?)
[05:38] <Kinhoshi> Everytime I reboot, KDE doesn't start up, rather it starts in terminal mode... and I have to reinstall my nvidia drivers to get KDE to start up. And when I install my drivers, it complains something about my X.org module, and tells me to download a X.org SDK/development package.
[05:38] <Kinhoshi> Where can I get the package?
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> astronaute: yes it is
[05:39] <Admiral_Chicago> check out the 64 bit build, give me a second to find a link
[05:39] <astronaute> Admiral_Chicago what im doing wrong pleqase ?
[05:39] <astronaute> Admiral_Chicago i tried amd64 too
[05:39] <Admiral_Chicago> astronaute: may I PM you?
[05:39] <astronaute> sure
[05:40] <_kuja_> Kinhoshi, do you have the development package it asks about installed?
[05:40] <Kinhoshi> I don't think so...
[05:41] <Kinhoshi> I'm not entirely sure.
[05:41] <Dark_Wizdom> !chroot
[05:41] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:42] <_kuja_> Kinhoshi, any particular reason you're in stalling the nvidia driver with the .bin file from nvidia's website, as opposed to the ubuntu nvidia-glx package?
[05:43] <Kinhoshi> I didn't know I could get the drivers from Ubuntu...
[05:43] <Kinhoshi> I'm pretty new to Linux/Ubuntu. :P
[05:44] <_kuja_> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:44] <Kinhoshi> Thanks.
[05:49] <bibriude> hola
[05:49] <_kuja_> hello
[05:49] <bibriude> hi there
[05:50] <bibriude> join #london
[05:50] <_kuja_> ?
[05:58] <ishtus> how do i run .deb files??
[05:58] <llutz> ishtus: they are to be installed (dpkg), not to be run
[05:59] <ishtus> i downloaded ati drivers, and i followed some tutorial saying make alien fglsomething.rpm
[06:01] <ishtus> llutz: how do i used dpkg?
[06:02] <icheyne> dpkg -i packagename.deb
[06:02] <Simian__> why can't i stream radio with amarok
[06:02] <Simian__> i have looked at the wiki
[06:05] <gehnna> hola a todos, buenas tardes
[06:06] <gehnna> tengo problemas al parar el entorno grafico para instalar el driver de nvidia. le hago un sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop y se me queda el cursor parpadeando y nada
[06:06] <gehnna> alguien me pude ayudar
[06:06] <_kuja_> ati | ishtus
[06:06] <icheyne> !es
[06:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:06] <gehnna> gracias
[06:06] <_kuja_> !ati | ishtus
[06:06] <ubotu> ishtus: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:07] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[06:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:07] <ishtus> thanks ill look around on that
[06:08] <syntaxx> how can i play my dvd? totem doesnt want mt to play dvd
[06:08] <_kuja_> to play back most dvds, you need to install lilbdvdcss2
[06:08] <syntaxx> ok thanks
[06:08] <_kuja_> **libdvdcss2
[06:09] <syntaxx> _kuja_: it says package has been obsoleted or is only available from another source
[06:10] <_kuja_> Yeah ... it's of "questionable legality" so it's not in the repos. Let me dig up the link of where to find it at.
[06:10] <syntaxx> ok
[06:10] <_kuja_> http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/
[06:11] <Dark_Wizdom> test | Dark
[06:11] <Dark_Wizdom> -_-
[06:12] <icheyne> !dvd | syntaxx
[06:12] <ubotu> syntaxx: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:16] <ishtus> pff, i had an error while installing the .deb package.. >
[06:16] <ishtus> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man8/atieventsd.8.gz', which is also in package xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:16] <ishtus> what does this mean??
[06:17] <ishtus> that i already have the drivers on my pc??
[06:21] <soon> I need to confirm the make and model of my wifi (T60 laptop) .. its not in KinfoCenter ... any suggestions?
[06:22] <yelonek> !pl
[06:22] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:22] <aseigo> soon: lspci from a command line (konsole)
[06:22] <soon> thx
[06:23] <aseigo> soon: e.g. on my laptop `lspci | grep -i wireless` does it
[06:24] <soon> I think this must be it : Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[06:24] <scythe128> hallo
[06:25] <soon> hi
[06:26] <scythe128> why is it that it takes vlc 10 minutes to dl for windows but it takes like 3 minutes to apt-get it?
[06:27] <NamShub> i guess theres a lot og static libraries in the windows version
[06:27] <scythe128> ya think??
[06:28] <mozilla> buenas
[06:28] <scythe128> is there a windows version of libdvdcss or will it work with my current dvdcss libs from my other dvd players? I know, its not a windows or vlc support forum, but you guys seem to have all the answers (just kissing up)
[06:29] <mrnopc> I'm trying to update my xorg distribution package how can I do that with apt-get?
[06:30] <mozilla> hi
[06:30] <mozilla> how can I do my logitech mx518 works well in kubuntu please? every button work well?
[06:30] <mozilla> please?
[06:31] <allee> mozilla: what does not work?
[06:31] <scythe128> I have a gamepad, my jsconfiguration recongizes it and will calibrate, but none of the games recognize it, is this a common issue, or (more likely) did I screw something up
[06:32] <mozilla> allee, the aditional buttons
[06:32] <mozilla> the 2 buttons of the left side and the buttons to configure the resolution
[06:32] <mozilla> well, the 2 buttons for the resolution work, i can change the resolution, but in windows i can configure them to make other functions
[06:33] <mozilla> additional, sorry
[06:33] <mozilla> my bad english :S
[06:34] <mozilla> does anybody help me please?
[06:35] <NamShub> !lomoco
[06:35] <ubotu> lomoco: Logitech Mouse Control for USB mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0beta1+1.0-4 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 124 kB
[06:36] <NamShub> not sure if its it though :)
[06:36] <allee> mozilla: start xv from konsole and press the buttons.  There you maybe see something like Button7 and Button8.   (If you seee NoSymbol it's a bit more problematic)
[06:36] <circ> how do i make konqueror auto refresh folders when i delete stuff?
[06:36] <mozilla> ubotu, if i install that driver, i will be able to do every button work and with the function i wnat?
[06:36] <mozilla> want*?
[06:36] <mozilla> allee, i know the number of my buttons, i was using xev
[06:37] <mozilla> but with xev, the 2 buttons for the resolution are not recognized
[06:37] <allee> mozilla: mhmm, you see nothing when you press the buttons in xev?
[06:38] <mozilla> yeah
[06:38] <mozilla> but only the 2 buttons of the resolution
[06:38] <allee> mozilla: oh!
[06:38] <mozilla> the other buttons are seen well in xev
[06:38] <mozilla> so, i have 10 buttons but only 8 buttons are recognizexd
[06:38] <mozilla> recognized*
[06:38] <mozilla> very strange xS
[06:38] <mozilla> :S
[06:39] <allee> mozilla: (wild guess) maybe the standard mouse driver only support 8 buttons
[06:39] <mozilla> but at least, i want to be able to configure the additional buttons, although i cant configure the 2 buttons of the resolution, but at least, the others...
[06:40] <mozilla> allee, how can i change that driver?
[06:40] <allee> mhm, I see button 8 and 9.  So at least 9 are supported ;)
[06:40] <allee> mozilla: good question.  I never run into it.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> ive noticed that the GENTOO wiki pages have a lot of excamples/deatils/xorg configs for the various mice.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> They may be a little techy at times.. but they got some decent docs at least. :) on some very specific topics such as that.
[06:41] <allee> Dr_willis: URL at hand?
[06:41] <mozilla> ok allee thanks a million
[06:42] <mozilla> for your help
[06:42] <Dr_willis> google.com
[06:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:42] <skreet> I've got a 44 GB partition showing up as 44 MB is `df -h`. Theres a ton of missing data. Any ideas?
[06:44] <allee> mozilla: I wasn't a big help.  Maybe Dr_willis hint is more useful.  Or the lomoco pkg NamShub was mentioning ...
[06:44] <allee> Dr_willis: boring ;)  but I do it
[06:45] <mozilla> ok, im gonna install lomoco now and test it
[06:46] <allee> mozilla: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Advanced_Mouse
[06:46] <mozilla> thanks
[06:46] <allee> mozilla: let us know in case you find a solution
[06:46] <mozilla> ok, dont worry, of course
[06:46] <_alan> Howdy - I've had problems with DNS servers resetting in my network settings. I've edited /etc/resolv.conf to put my nameservers in there, and did chattr +i to make it stick. Now during bootup I have to hit ctrl+c when it hangs setting up the network. Is there a more elegant solution (breezy)
[06:46] <mozilla> we have to help each other to make kubuntu the best community xD
[06:47] <yelonek> !cedega
[06:47] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[06:47] <_alan> (got the above solution from the forums)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. trying to track down a good link to that Linux/IBM comercial that came out bout 2 years ago.. the YouTube copies are all sort of lowres
[06:48] <blackflag> !inventory
[06:48] <llutz> _alan: install package resolvconf and define nameserver in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inventory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <fdoving> _alan: yes, use 'superseede domain-name-servers 1.2.3.4;' in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[06:49] <_alan> (i apologise - new to irc - command to whisper?)
[06:49] <fdoving> whisper?
[06:50] <_alan> is there a command to whisper a user? If not, it's cool :)
[06:50] <fdoving> we usually just do it this way.
[06:50] <_alan> okeydokey... Before I try the above 2 solutions, should I back out my changes to resolv.conf?
[06:50] <fdoving> you can always start private sessions with other users, but it's not done very often unless the topic is something not related to the channel.
[06:50] <_alan> kk
[06:51] <Dr_willis> !irc
[06:51] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[06:51] <_alan> thanks doc - more rtfm for me ;)
[06:52] <fdoving> _alan: yes, after editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf you would need to undo the chattr, to allow dhclient to update it. I presume you use a router or some kind of dhcp server?
[06:52] <_alan> Yes, I am using a router that supplies IP addresses via dhcp
[06:53] <genii> !conexant
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conexant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <fdoving> _alan: ok. then go edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and undo the chattr operation.
[06:53] <_alan> resolv.conf kept getting reset to the ip address of the router
[06:53] <fdoving> _alan: ok. then my suggestion will work.
[06:54] <genii> Has anyone gotten a HSF or HCF Conexant to work in Edgy yet?
[06:54] <soon_> I just erased my /etc/apt/sources.list !!!!
[06:54] <_alan> superseede -> supersede?
[06:55] <fdoving> _alan: correct. my bad.
[06:55] <_alan> multiple supersede lines for more than one dns server?
[06:55] <genii> !hsf'
[06:55] <fdoving> soon_: get a new one then.
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hsf' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <genii> !hsf
[06:56] <fdoving> !easysource | soon_
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hsf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <ubotu> soon_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[06:56] <TheGateKeeper> soon_, dapper or edgy?
[06:56] <_alan> google ftw
[06:57] <fdoving> _alan: no, like this: supersede domain-name-servers 1.2.3.4, 5.6.7.8;
[06:57] <simen> does anyone know how i get floating icons and other cool things for kubuntu ?
[06:57] <soon_> edgy
[06:57] <Mitja> How do I put taskbar back? I accidentally removed it.
[06:57] <_alan> yah googled it :p
[06:57] <simen> hate googling things !
[06:57] <simen> Bah !
[06:57] <simen> Help A.S.A.P :P
[06:58] <TheGateKeeper> soon_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[06:58] <soon_> thanks
[06:58] <_alan> it's cool when you have a starting point to look from - I just had no idea where to begin looking
[06:58] <swim> hey folks, would anyone happen to know where I might get kubuntu's default kicker background?
[06:59] <_alan> okeydokey, rebooting to see if we have won. will be back :p
[06:59] <fdoving> swim: in the kubuntu-default-settings package. /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png
[06:59] <fdoving> swim: if you're not on kubuntu you can get the source of the package from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:00] <swim> thanks so much fdoving :)
[07:02] <swim> fdoving: you would'nt also happen to know what package I'll need would you?
[07:02] <fdoving> swim: kubuntu-default-settings
[07:02] <swim> excellent thanks again
[07:08] <genii> Has anyone tried compiling Conexant drivers in Edgy?
[07:09] <_alan> hey guys. Tried adding supersede info to dhclient.conf, and backed out my changes on /etc/resolv.conf. No hang during bootup now, but resolv.conf is back to my router as nameserver, and dns is not being set to the entries I made
[07:10] <yelonek> !en
[07:10] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:10] <_alan> supersede domain-name-servers 213.94.190.194, 213.94.190.236
[07:10] <Rob-West> i need a Kubuntu source.list file
[07:11] <_alan> gonna check my konversation log - there was a suggestion from another guy about installing a package
[07:13] <_alan> install package resolvconf and define nameserver in /etc/network/interfaces - does this sound good for breezy?
[07:14] <_alan> wow. Its deep g(r)eek in /etc/network/interfaces (shudder)
[07:16] <_alan> only sources.list I have is from breezy - doubt it would do you much good
[07:18] <fdoving> _alan: you really don't need resolvconf if you use the dhclient way.. you can however install it if you want to. it doesn't really change anything.
[07:18] <_alan> rob-west: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37941/plain/ is a copy of my sources.list file, it may help
[07:19] <fdoving> _alan: so, it didn't work? hmm.. that's strange, very. try to change 'supersede' to 'prepend' then..
[07:19] <_alan> kk
[07:19] <genii> There will be a prototype of sources.list normally in /usr/share/doc/examples/sources.list
[07:20] <allee> _alan: nameservers can be set via dhcp. not need to use dhcp in this case
[07:21] <genii> Normally the only differences are the localisations ( COUNTRYCODE.archive.ubuntu.com) etc and suite (dapper edgy) etc
[07:21] <_alan> yah, problem is ubuntu persists in resetting nameserver info in resolv.conf to the router ip address rather than any dns settings in network control panel
[07:22] <allee> fdoving: how's the dhclient way to have a fixed domain search path where ever you connect?
[07:22] <_alan> I've got around that by editing resolv.conf with my dns servers, and chattr the file readonly, but that causes a hang during bootup that you have to ctrl-c out off
[07:22] <_alan> of*
[07:23] <fdoving> allee: i would guess that is something like: supersede domain-name "allee.net";
[07:24] <allee> _alan: Usually dhcpd server provide nameservers and because the are pysically near the response is faster
[07:24] <fdoving> allee: that goes in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, there is an example on line 17 if your dhclient.conf is similar to mine.
[07:24] <_alan> yep, my router does supply dns server info via dhcp. Unfortunately, ubuntu ignores this, and just uses the router itself for dns,which is very slow
[07:25] <Dr_willis> Hmm..never notced it being slow that way.. ive seen this issue befor.. i think there may be discussion of it in the forums/wikis.
[07:25] <_alan> anyway, trying the prepend fix
[07:25] <fdoving> _alan: in theory.. that's what 'supersede' should override.. the dhcp settings..
[07:25] <Dr_willis> I recall ages ago editing the 'template' file that was used to make the resolov.conf :) but that was a bit of a hack.
[07:26] <Dr_willis> then i also altered rc.local to 'fix it' :)
[07:26] <_alan> yah there is a discussion in the forum, which led me to the solution of manually entering dns into resolv.conf and chattr it readonly, but this causes a hang on bootup needing a ctrl+c to bypass
[07:26] <Dr_willis> but now i dont have the issue any more
[07:26] <fdoving> _alan: prepend will only say 'try this first, then try whatever dhcp says'.. supersede is more like 'use this and shutup'.. iirc.
[07:26] <_alan> lol
[07:26] <_alan> prepend sounds like it might work
[07:26] <Dr_willis> dont edit resolb.conf - theres some OTHER file that it copues the resolov.conf header from - thats the one i edited.
[07:26] <Dr_willis> or at least it used to.
[07:26] <adz21c> would any have any idea why kaffeine has stopped working for me? It doesn't even seem to crash ... just doesn't start.
[07:26] <genii> Anyone compile Conexant HSF or HCF drivers on Edgy yet?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> I forget why this problem even happens.
[07:27] <allee> fdoving: ah, right. but domain name is used as DOMAIN in resolv.conf not SEARCH.  So I stick with resolvconf for now
[07:27] <palvarez> alguien sabe porq automatix no corre en kubuntu?
[07:27] <fdoving> Dr_willis: that's only when resolvconf is installed.. in those cases /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/ should be edited.
[07:27] <CotRo|eR> http://pastebin.ca/285212 - any help pls??
[07:27] <LjL> !es | palvarez
[07:27] <ubotu> palvarez: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:27] <_alan> um, because I'm unlucky, I have a guild run in wow in 30 minutes, and this needs to be fixed now before I go home? That sounds like it to me...
[07:27] <allee> fdoving: nevertheless thx, never looked at dhclient.conf yet. Interesting
[07:27] <Dr_willis> fdoving,  yea. i never did figure ti all out. :)  can always just copy the correct file over after booting.
[07:28] <Dr_willis> bbl
[07:28] <CotRo|eR> hey ppl, I have a problem any 1 can help me pls? - http://pastebin.ca/285212
[07:28] <ikonia> CotRo|eR: whats the problem
[07:29] <CotRo|eR> ikonia - scroll down there are some errors
[07:29] <ikonia> yeah, just some file system and clock errors
[07:29] <Rob-West> how do i makesure i have all dependencies
[07:30] <ikonia> Rob-West: apt will do that for oou
[07:30] <ikonia> you
[07:30] <CotRo|eR> ikonia - is everything ok now? it kinda stopped there
[07:30] <ikonia> well, your time may fix itself with ntp
[07:30] <ikonia> file system I don't know if its ran checks
[07:30] <ikonia> but if it has - it should be fine
[07:30] <Rob-West> well ive done apt-get update
[07:30] <Rob-West> and apt-get upgrade
[07:30] <ikonia> then everything should be fine Rob-West
[07:31] <Rob-West> and automatix2 wont install it says its missing dependencies
[07:31] <ikonia> how are you installing automatix2 ?
[07:31] <Rob-West> apt-get install automatix2
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Rob-West: also, apt-get build-dep foo
[07:32] <ikonia> maybe the dependencies arn't available
[07:33] <CotRo|eR> it got stuck there :|
[07:33] <Rob-West> im gonna try downloading the /deb file
[07:33] <Rob-West> .deb*
[07:35] <_alan> prepend did not fix it either. rats
[07:35] <_alan> the only thing that is working so far is to manually edit resolv.conf with my dns settings, and making it readonly :(
[07:36] <_alan> !dns
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <genii> !bind
[07:36] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[07:36] <_alan> which leads to a hang during booting which you have to ctrl+c out of (
[07:36] <_alan> :(*
[07:37] <dominik_> hello world, I have a problem with my speaker. When I log onto the computer, the speaker works, but when my daughter logs onto the same computer, he gets the speaker icon showing red cross over it
[07:37] <stamen> hi
[07:37] <stamen> how to open 3gp file
[07:37] <stamen> with which program,
[07:37] <stamen> !3gp
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <dominik_> is there a way I can solve this problem and let my daughter use the speaker because she would like to listen to music while surfing
[07:38] <_alan> do a google search on 3gp file - first result is an explanation of the file and its format
[07:39] <allee> dominik_: add your daughter to audio group (for list of other interesting group type: id   when you looked in0
[07:39] <NamShub> dominik_: add your daughter to "audio" group
[07:39] <genii> stamen try opening it with mplayer
[07:39] <dominik_> how do I add her, am sorry..an abit very new :(
[07:40] <dominik_> how do I add her to audio group, am sorry..am abit very new :(
[07:40] <NamShub> dominik_: KControl > System Administration > Users
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> dominik_: then admin mode -- groups
[07:40] <stamen> genii: ok
[07:40] <stamen> genii: wait
[07:41] <dominik_> ok, let me try it now as we speak...
[07:41] <stamen> dominik_: it works with mplayer
[07:42] <stamen> genii: it works, but without audio
[07:43] <dominik_> i don't even have mplayer installed
[07:43] <genii> stamen Perhaps try a program capable of mpeg4 playback suck as kaffeine
[07:43] <stamen> ok
[07:43] <genii> *SUCH* as kaffeine
[07:43] <allee> genii: suck? giggle
[07:43] <allee> :)
[07:43] <_alan> I've got breezy working on this laptop quite nicely. It only has 128MB ram at the moment - should I hold off upgrading to dapper -> edgy until I have ram up to 512MB?
[07:43] <genii> I caught i
[07:43] <genii> :)
[07:44] <genii> _alan Well at least 192 would be good
[07:44] <_alan> yah kk. Hopefully edgy won't have the problem with dns servers. I'll just live with the kludge for the moment
[07:46] <dominik_> stamen: am going to log off and log her on to see if it works ...I will be right back
[07:47] <stamen> dominik_: it works withjout sound
[07:47] <genii> stamen kaffeine has no sound either with 3gp type?
[07:49] <j_> SystemGuard reports that: Memory: 965,408KB used, 69,432 free
[07:49] <j_> isn't this kinda bad?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> you have free memory... thats good.
[07:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:49] <stamen> genii: I think so
[07:50] <stamen> I will make a new clip with sound and I will try later
[07:50] <j_> also, Juk has Vmsize of 119,680
[07:50] <stamen> genii: 10x for the help for now
[07:51] <j_> but does this mean that ~950Mb of memory is currently used?
[07:51] <genii> stamen best luck
[07:51] <stamen> who can tell me how to make the tv out to be with color
[07:51] <stamen> genii: 10x
[07:51] <stamen> I make it to work but it is black and white
[07:52] <stamen> :(
[07:52] <Dr_willis> j_,  looks that way.
[07:52] <yelonek> hi, i have problem with WineCVS.sh script it says:
[07:52] <genii> You mean X10 ?
[07:52] <yelonek> test: 43: ==: unexpected operator
[07:52] <yelonek> WineCVS.sh: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[07:52] <yelonek> when i run it in bash
[07:52] <Dr_willis> j_,  try the 'free' command
[07:52] <Dr_willis> yelonek,  try 'bash whatever.sh'
[07:53] <j_> total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[07:53] <j_> Mem:       1035680     972224      63456          0      14672     749920
[07:53] <j_> oops, didn't mean to paste all that, sorry
[07:53] <Dr_willis> or edit the first line of that script to be like #!/bin/bash  instead of #!/bin/sh
[07:53] <NamShub> j_: memory isnt free'd until needed
[07:53] <j_> Namshub, ahah, this was all new to me
[07:54] <j_> a linux thing then
[07:54] <yelonek> Dr_willis:  wtf ?? how did you know ? it's running !
[07:54] <Dr_willis> windows works the same way i think... sor tof.
[07:54] <NamShub> basically, as lnog as you dont use swap you dont have to care... ;)
[07:54] <Dr_willis> yelonek,  The Ubuntu  devs (or someone) decided to switch to 'dash' as the default 'sh' shell. instead of bash.
[07:54] <j_> but windows task manager reports allocatable memory as free donnit?
[07:55] <Dr_willis> yelonek,  and its caused a few issues with non-posix compliant scripts
[07:55] <Dr_willis> yelonek,  it can get to be a heated topic at times. :)
[07:55] <j_> konsole takes ages to load, like 3 seconds for me at least
[07:55] <yelonek> Dr_willis: thank you! pl community didn't help me
[07:56] <Dr_willis> yelonek,    they perhaps dident even know. :)
[07:56] <NamShub> !dash
[07:56] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[07:56] <NamShub> interesting, i didnt know that
[07:56] <Dr_willis> heh - from what i hear its more like 'since bash isent  100% posix complient' -
[07:56] <yelonek> Dr_willis: ha! I'll tell them :)
[07:57] <NamShub> hopefully this will lead to more posix-compliant script :)
[07:57] <Dr_willis> heh.. that factoid seems to make it sound like its dash's fault.
[07:57] <j_> also, I installed something called preload but can't find in the processes anywhere
[07:57] <Dr_willis> bash in 'posix' mode dosent error/warn/falt out when you do non-posix things.
[07:57] <genii> !ash
[07:57] <ubotu> ash: Compatibility package for the Debian Almquist Shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-3ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:57] <Dr_willis> or so i researched.
[07:57] <genii> hmm
[07:58] <Dr_willis> and you can make SOME scripts work by changing that #!/bin/bash /sh line. :)
[08:02] <j_> ntfs_filldir(): Skipping unrepresentable inode, I have these in my system log, should I be worried?
[08:03] <j_> aha, it's probably scandic characters on my windows drive
[08:03] <j_> btw, is it possible to make kate display scandinavian characters correctly?
[08:08] <jason_> what media player can i use to play wmv and quicktime videos?
[08:09] <kilrae> try vlc
[08:09] <kilrae> or install w32codecs and you ought to be able to play them in kaffeine or xine or mplayer
[08:11] <jason_> ok, i'll try that
[08:14] <tilk> Hello. Im the fresh user of Kubuntu 6.06   Im looking for the answer for few questions. Am I at the right place here?
[08:15] <abattoir> tilk: sure, you can ask here :)
[08:15] <abattoir> tilk: you might want to read the FAQ and the Desktop guide too though
[08:17] <tilk> I have forgotten to allocate the hard disc before install the system, now I have everything in one partition
[08:17] <tilk> IS there any tool to make it now?
[08:17] <abattoir> tilk: you mean you want to create a separate /home partition ?
[08:17] <tilk> I wanna have one for swapping, one for system itself and one for my data
[08:17] <tilk> yeah
[08:18] <abattoir> tilk: you can try qtparted or gparted to resize your current partition, then create space for swap
[08:19] <tilk> in fact Im not sure if swap has own partition or not....I just havent created it
[08:19] <tilk> Is there any graphic interface for it or do I need to use console?
[08:20] <abattoir> tilk: qtparted and gparted are both applications with a graphical interface
[08:20] <abattoir> tilk: both of them use the program parted as a backend, which has a console interface
[08:20] <genii-away> eg: Gnome PARTition EDitor
[08:21] <tilk> thx and how can I run them?
[08:21] <abattoir> !info qtparted
[08:21] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[08:21] <abattoir> tilk: open up Adept Package Manager, and install qtparted
[08:21] <abattoir> or 'sudo apt-get install qtparted' if you prefer the cli
[08:21] <BluesKaj> !gparted
[08:21] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:22] <abattoir> tilk: it is the same application that you might have used while installing kubuntu(if you used the live cd)
[08:23] <tilk> hmm, thx a lot, Ive got it
[08:24] <BluesKaj> FF 3 seems quite fast , but it doesn't support mplayer plugins yet...bummer!
[08:25] <genii-away> is FF 3 out of alpha yet?
[08:25] <BluesKaj> no
[08:25] <tilk> hmm, Im not sure about there partitions. I can see three. 01 /dev/hda1 -ext3  02 /dev/hda2 -extended 02 /dev/hda5 -linux-swap.  The first one has Status "Active"
[08:27] <BluesKaj> hda1-that's your windows partition
[08:27] <abattoir> BluesKaj: ext3 ?
[08:27] <abattoir> tilk: that's most probably your root partition
[08:27] <BluesKaj> usually it is anyway
[08:27] <abattoir> unless you have another linux installation
[08:27] <tilk> which one? Active?
[08:28] <abattoir> tilk: /dev/hda1
[08:28] <genii-away> Active just means bootable
[08:28] <BluesKaj> oh i see hda1 is ext3
[08:28] <tilk> yes, its 54GB, hda2,5 are both 1GB
[08:28] <crube> Where can I disable StickyKeys. I accidently turned it on and now I just wanna cry
[08:29] <BluesKaj> .me slaps his naughty fingers for getting ahead of the thinking process!
[08:29] <tilk> so I need to allocate hda1. What does the second partition mean? 02 /dev/hda2 Type: extended ?
[08:32] <tilk> How can I create new partition here? (Without formating the old one) I cant find it
[08:32] <BluesKaj> crube, sys/settings/regional&language/keyboard layout/enable keyboard layouts/switching options tab
[08:32] <RealisticDragon> tilk: you can use qtparted
[08:33] <genii> tilk if you type in console "mount|grep hda" does it tell you hda2 is mounted someplace?
[08:33] <RealisticDragon> or fdisk if you prefer (command line app)
[08:34] <abattoir> tilk: hda5 is most probably a logical partition, hence hda2 is an extended partition, meaning it doesn't physically take up 1GB(that's the 1GB taken by hda5)
[08:34] <tilk> Console says:    /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:35] <abattoir> tilk: hda1 is the root partition(presumably the one you want to resize)...
[08:35] <abattoir> tilk: hda5 is swap(the kubuntu installer probably created it for you)
[08:35] <ollie__> hey
[08:36] <tilk> abattoir: yes, I see. So...how can I resize hda1?
[08:36] <ollie__> i have a problem with firefox32 on amd64 pc
[08:36] <ollie__> it ran b efore
[08:36] <ollie__> but after installing build essentials
[08:36] <ollie__> it wont run
[08:36] <ollie__> get this error
[08:36] <abattoir> tilk: use qtparted
[08:36] <ollie__>  With the introduction of the free Player, VMware is making virtualization readily available to all IT professionals who need to evaluate applications or beta software or to simply share virtual machines with their colleagues. "
[08:36] <ollie__>  Dave Parsons, Senior Vice President of Product Development
[08:37] <ForgeAus> um hey all
[08:37] <ollie__> oopos
[08:37] <ollie__> hahahaha
[08:37] <ollie__> thats not the error
[08:37] <abattoir> ollie__: please don't paste here....
[08:37] <ForgeAus> what happens when you use adept?
[08:37] <abattoir> if it's large
[08:37] <ollie__> pastebin?
[08:37] <abattoir> ollie__: yes
[08:37] <genii> tilk you will probably want to destroy hda2 then as well, since it's not mounted
[08:37] <ollie__> sorry, i pasted that by accident
[08:37] <tilk> abattoir: Yes, this is program which I use...but I dont know how to do it
[08:37] <abattoir> ForgeAus: what do you mean? it is a package manager
[08:38] <tilk> genii: destroy hda2...hmmmm... I dont know, if it helps...
[08:38] <tilk> :)
[08:38] <ollie__> ok paste bin isnt working
[08:38] <ollie__> il paste the last 2 lines of the error here
[08:38] <ForgeAus> abattoir exactly but does it keep the packages?
[08:38] <ollie__> usr/local/firefox32/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:39] <ollie__> and this
[08:39] <ollie__> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[08:39] <ollie__> sorry for the pasting
[08:39] <ollie__> its firefox32 on an amd64 machine
[08:39] <abattoir> ForgeAus: yes in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:39] <ollie__> worked fine before
[08:39] <ForgeAus> I made a 4 gig partition for it and its all full already!
[08:40] <tilk> I cant use "resize" to root partition (hda1) I can only use it for others
[08:40] <abattoir> tilk: that's because it's mounted, you are on it
[08:40] <genii> tilk if you destroy hda2 (since not used) you can amalgamate it into a resized a1 or other partition)
[08:41] <abattoir> tilk: use a live cd, like the kubuntu disk, run qtparted(make sure hda1 is unmounted) then resize
[08:41] <abattoir> tilk: also make sure you've backed up important data
[08:41] <abattoir> ollie__: do you have libgobject.... in /usr/lib32 ?
[08:42] <abattoir> ollie__: also what are you using? linux32?
[08:42] <ollie__> erm,
[08:42] <ollie__> well,
[08:42] <ollie__> ive installed kubuntu
[08:42] <tilk> ok, Im gonna try it
[08:42] <ollie__> then followed a guide in the forums
[08:42] <ollie__> enabling me to run
[08:43] <ollie__> firefox 32 (so i can use flash 9)
[08:43] <abattoir> ollie__: which one? link?
[08:43] <ollie__> on my amd64 kernel
[08:43] <ollie__> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[08:43] <ollie__> abattoir if you skip down to the manual howto bit
[08:44] <ollie__> ive tried reinstalling the ia32-libs
[08:44] <ollie__> but to no avail
[08:44] <abattoir> ollie__: ok, go to /usr/lib32
[08:44] <ollie__> yes
[08:44] <ollie__> im there
[08:45] <abattoir> ollie__: look for  libgobject-2.0.so.0
[08:45] <ollie__> hm
[08:45] <ollie__> cant see it
[08:45] <abattoir> ollie__: it should be a symlink to another file
[08:45] <ollie__> isnt there
[08:45] <abattoir> ollie__: try reinstallin ia32-libs-gtk
[08:46] <abattoir> ollie__: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ia32-libs-gtk'
[08:46] <ollie__> done
[08:47] <abattoir> ollie__: try running firefox32
[08:47] <ollie__> nah same problem
[08:48] <abattoir> ollie__: is the file there now?
[08:48] <ollie__> can i paste the output in a query
[08:48] <mats> !pastbin
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <ollie__> paste bin isnt working.
[08:48] <mats> ok (-:
[08:48] <ollie__> abattoir the file isnt there :(
[08:48] <mats> I think you have to past then
[08:49] <yopyopyop> salut
[08:49] <mats> hi
[08:49] <yopyopyop> hi
[08:50] <yopp> !french
[08:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:50] <abattoir> ollie__: could you try reinstalling all those packages?
[08:50] <ollie__> ive tried that before
[08:50] <ollie__> didnt work
[08:50] <abattoir> ollie__: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ia32-libs etc. etc.'
[08:50] <mats> rebuild ;)
[08:50] <sparrw> The large blue 3D gear with the planet earth inside it...  Is that image available anywhere in a useful format?
[08:51] <Rob-West> can someone help me install all my mdeia codecs
[08:51] <Rob-West> media*
[08:51] <abattoir> !codecs | Rob-West
[08:51] <ubotu> Rob-West: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <sercik> hi to all
[08:53] <sercik> excuse me if i ask to you
[08:53] <sercik> but you are the best that i know
[08:53] <kbyte> hi everyone
[08:54] <sercik> i have installed 2 distribuction of linux one in the first partition and one in the second
[08:54] <sercik> i have grub in mbr
[08:54] <kbyte> i have a problem wtih my vga
[08:54] <kbyte> can someone help me pls?
[08:54] <sercik> someone could help me to add the second operating system to grub?
[08:54] <sercik> kbyte nvidia or ati
[08:54] <sercik> ?
[08:55] <kbyte> sercik it is an ati 200m pcie
[08:55] <tilk> Hi, Im back. So... It wasnt possible to resize it also when I tried to do it from LiveCD. It looked same.
[08:55] <sercik> do you have installed driver?
[08:56] <kbyte> yeah
[08:56] <kbyte> but still 3d accel does not working :(
[08:56] <sercik> try glxinfo | grep renderer
[08:57] <kbyte> sercik letme see
[08:57] <tilk> Have you got any ideas why didnt it work?
[08:58] <kbyte> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:58] <kbyte> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:58] <metres> sercyk : have you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:58] <kbyte> tilk i don't know
[08:58] <kbyte> i downloaded the ati script in ubuntu forums
[08:58] <kbyte> with ati 8.32.5 driver
[08:58] <sercik> no
[08:59] <sercik> i want someone to help me for that
[08:59] <sercik> i have ubutnu in hda2 and a /boot partition with fedora in hd1
[09:00] <yopp> did you quit x window then
[09:00] <sercik> kbyte excuse me it was glxinfo | grep render
[09:00] <yopp> after install the driver (sh nameofthedriver.run)
[09:01] <metres> sercik : paste me your menu.lst... ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[09:01] <kbyte> sercik i did that
[09:01] <kbyte> first i installed the lates driver
[09:02] <kbyte> sercik the ati 8.32.5
[09:02] <sercik> kbyte glxinfo | grep rendering and paste me the output
[09:02] <kbyte> and then in my bash type glxinfo | greo render
[09:02] <sercik> metres for now i'm on windows
[09:02] <kbyte> but still nothing
[09:02] <Rob-West> music is sweet
[09:03] <sercik> try again and check for the correct spelling
[09:03] <sercik> Rob-West is good to help ypu kbyte
[09:03] <sercik> Hi Rob!
[09:04] <sercik> metres i will restart in kubuntu and then well speak again!
[09:04] <tilk> So I still need to resize hda1, make it smaller, create the next partition and use the free space for it
[09:05] <yopp> tilk are you on windows
[09:05] <yopp> ?
[09:05] <yopp> because you have to erase swap
[09:05] <kbyte> WHO IS ROB-WEST
[09:05] <yopp> if you dont do it you can resize
[09:06] <yopp> partition wich are on windowshard drive
[09:06] <yopp> cant
[09:07] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:07] <crimson> if i download and install a program in the terminal and it doesn't do it automatically, how can i get it to be listed in my menu?
[09:08] <lsproc> I am trying to get my Samba printer to work, but when I go to the workgroup and select the PC, I get Access Denied, even though the printer works anonymously
[09:08] <tilk> no, Im on linux
[09:08] <mats> no, your on a gnu/linux system ;)
[09:08] <yopp> have you a windows system
[09:09] <yopp> dual boot?
[09:09] <sercik> metres: i'm on kubuntu
[09:09] <tilk> No, I have only linux
[09:09] <sercik> ehich was the paste address
[09:09] <yopp> ok , sorry
[09:09] <tilk> there is nothing on this disc, I formatted it completely when I installed Kubuntu ;)
[09:09] <yopp> because i had a similar problem
[09:10] <yopp> but it was because of windows swap
[09:10] <tilk> I know in windows there is good program for this, I have also used it few times in the past and it worked very well but now I need to do it from Linux
[09:11] <metres> sercik : you have to open your redhat boot menu and kubuntu boot menu...
[09:11] <yopp> qt parted didn't work?
[09:11] <mats> cfdisk ?
[09:11] <sercik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37952/plain/
[09:11] <CotRo|eR> what does this mean?: bug: soft lockup detected on cpu #0!
[09:11] <metres> sercik : I have redhat and kubuntu too...
[09:11] <sercik> ok now i munt fedora partition
[09:13] <metres> sercik : menu-normal.lst
[09:14] <tilk> yopp: No, I wasnt able to resize that partition
[09:14] <tilk> yopp: Probably cause Im useing it now...But it also didnt work when I tried to make it from LiveCD
[09:15] <sercik> and that's fedora menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37954/plain/
[09:17] <sercik> metres: is ok?
[09:17] <metres> sercik : just add this (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37955/) to the end of your menu.lst...
[09:17] <BluesKaj> sercik, this is a kubuntu ch , if you want fedora help I recommend  #fedora
[09:17] <sercik> no blueskaj i like you
[09:18] <sercik> an   don't worry i don't want help wih fedora only with grub
[09:18] <BluesKaj> I don't understand why you want fedora anyway
[09:18] <yopp> tilk: did you unmount disk
[09:18] <tilk> yopp: I dont know :) How can I do it?
[09:19] <sercik> blueskaj i want only see the new fc6 but i think i have already done my choice don't worry i like ubuntu much
[09:19] <metres> sercik : is that ok ?
[09:20] <sercik> i think so
[09:20] <fogot> 
[09:20] <sercik> but for now i don't want to restart
[09:20] <yopp> tilk: did you try with only the disk you want to resiz plugged
[09:20] <metres> understand...
[09:20] <sercik> thank you metres
[09:20] <sercik> thank you metres
[09:20] <metres> pleasure :)
[09:21] <sercik> i have also downloaded the 32 bit version of kubuntu i think that i will install that
[09:21] <sercik> for now i'm on 64 bit
[09:21] <yopp> tilk: have you already use qt parted
[09:21] <metres> IM on 64 too
[09:21] <sercik> i'm not able to see quicktime videos with konqueror
[09:21] <crimson> if i download and install a program in the terminal and it doesn't do it automatically, how can i get it to be listed in my menu?
[09:22] <sercik> crimson: you can install menu package
[09:22] <crimson> how so?
[09:22] <sercik> or you can edit a .desktop file
[09:22] <tilk> yopp: qtparted is the program which I use for it. I just cant click on resize...
[09:23] <sercik> or you can simpy edit the menu with kde menu editor
[09:23] <Akuma_> after i login i get an empty screen. could anyone give me hits? what should i look for to try and troubleshoot?
[09:23] <Akuma_> *hints
[09:23] <tilk> yopp: Oh I havent seen your post before. I have only one disk, if you ask on this.
[09:23] <crimson> the thing is, they don't get listed in my menu editor or package manager
[09:23] <crimson> but they are installed
[09:23] <yopp> tilk: ok did you select the disk first
[09:23] <sercik> not all programs add an entry into menu
[09:23] <yopp> tilk: i know that a stupid question
[09:23] <crimson> i know
[09:24] <sercik> but if you install menu packge some of tha will appear
[09:24] <metres> crimsom which program ?
[09:24] <crimson> but how do i do that?
[09:24] <crimson> lots of programs
[09:24] <crimson> 20+
[09:24] <sercik> sudo apt-get install menu
[09:24] <sercik> sudo aptitude install menu
[09:24] <crimson> both commands or just one?
[09:24] <metres> one
[09:24] <sercik> are the same
[09:25] <crimson> alright, thanks
[09:25] <sercik> witgh aptitude you can also install related packages
[09:25] <sercik> apt-get install all the reauired package
[09:25] <crimson> is this a partial or full solution?
[09:25] <sercik> partial
[09:25] <sercik> the problem is that some package are optimized for debian and not for ubuntu
[09:25] <crimson> ah
[09:26] <metres> crimsom : right-click on the menu and select edit menu
[09:26] <sercik> in debian that program install a shurtcut in kubuntu no
[09:26] <crimson> it seems like most
[09:26] <sercik> i have had the same problem
[09:26] <crimson> gotcha
[09:26] <crimson> metres: thats not the problem
[09:26] <sercik> i have a related program my menu lacks the game categories
[09:27] <sercik> program=problem
[09:27] <tilk> yopp: What do you mean?
[09:27] <crimson> sercik: after that menu installation is done, what must be done?
[09:27] <sercik> nothing
[09:28] <sercik> some shortcut will appears automatically
[09:28] <sercik> but not all
[09:28] <crimson> i have no changes
[09:28] <matthew> genii, how about those scsi's?
[09:28] <tilk> yopp: anway you aked me if I unmounted disk...what did you mean?
[09:29] <sercik> i don't remember who on this forum have suggsted me that solution
[09:29] <sercik> but for me works
[09:29] <crimson> okat
[09:29] <crimson> i'll play around a bit
[09:29] <crimson> thanks for the help
[09:29] <genii> matthew Hey hi :) Right now I scavenged some old 18s
[09:30] <yopp> tilk: i dont know too because it was a problem due to the swap windows i had to erase to unmount disk but for linux i dont know
[09:32] <sercik> someone can play quicktime video with 634 bit kubuntu?
[09:32] <sercik>  bit
[09:32] <sercik> 64 bit
[09:32] <matthew> genii-customer, i, oh, ok...was kinda wondering why you didn't contact me...but it was cool, cause I don't know if there are any scsi's left, or just old IDE's
[09:32] <matthew> I mean, ATA's
[09:33] <matthew> sercik, whoa, 634 bit!?!? amazing...lol. 634 bit ftw
[09:33] <sercik> matthew: 64 bit worry :)
[09:33] <matthew> lol
[09:34] <xenol> !edubuntu
[09:34] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[09:34] <sercik> sorry
[09:34] <matthew> sercik, I was just kidding...
[09:34] <sercik> i know
[09:34] <xenol> wat is in edubuntu? KDE or GNOME? plz
[09:34] <sercik> please help me with quicktime
[09:34] <sercik> konqueror try to open with kaffeine that can't play
[09:35] <matthew> !attitude | sercik
[09:35] <ubotu> sercik: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:35] <matthew> sercik, if you don't get help, that means that either nobody knows, or nobody who knows is available
[09:35] <sercik> matthew: sorry
[09:35] <genii-customer> brb, dealing with a customer. ...gimme 2-3 minutes
[09:35] <sercik> i don't think to disturb!
[09:35] <matthew> genii-customer, that's cool
[09:35] <matthew> sercik, np
[09:36] <matthew> sercik, where are you located?
[09:36] <sercik> matthew i don't want to disturb ok?
[09:36] <sercik> in italy,sicily,palermo
[09:36] <matthew> sercik, chill out...it's fine...no worries here
[09:37] <matthew> sercik, ah, that's pretty remote...it really sucks trying to figure something out when all the help is in a different language
[09:37] <sercik> don't tell me that then!!
[09:38] <sercik> i don't have problem with english
[09:38] <sercik> i don't speak good but read very good
[09:39] <matthew> sercik, ah, ok.
[09:39] <sercik> my attitude is not good? i haven't had problem for now with other people!
[09:39] <sercik> i like kubuntu also for you, but if you don't like me! goodbye!
[09:40] <fdoving> sercik: what is your problem? can you please repeat your first question?
[09:40] <sercik> i have many problems :)
[09:40] <sercik> hi fdoving
[09:41] <xenol> !inkspace
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inkspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <ubuntu_> siemka
[09:42] <sercik> now i want to exit for a walk and a beer sorry but i can't offere to you! i think that in the next day i can't speak in chat so merry christmas to all also matthew :)
[09:42] <fdoving> sercik: have a nice walk, and a merry christmas to you too. :)
[09:43] <sercik> and have a nice beer that is more important than walk :)
[09:43] <felix> hi, does anyone know why i could be getting choppy framerate while playing a video or dvd in fullscreen? I get the same problem with Kaffeine and VLC.
[09:43] <sercik> also if i can meet some girls will be better.......
[09:43] <sercik> goodbyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[09:43] <matthew> so, is there a reason my computer freezes whenever someone calls my skype line?
[09:43] <crimson> see you
[09:44] <xenol> mathhew news says about some worm in skype network
[09:44] <xenol> mayb it is it :p
[09:45] <matthew> xenol, got a link?
[09:45] <genii> possibly some crappy souncard runs off the cpu like a winmodem
[09:45] <xenol> i read it in slovak so if u understand then OK
[09:45] <xenol> wait ibrowse
[09:45] <matthew> genii, maybe...I'm using an integrated sound card...
[09:46] <xenol> http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2006-121910-5339-99&tabid=1
[09:46] <xenol> her eit is but only win platform is infected it seems but who knows
[09:46] <matthew> xenol, seems like that's only windows...
[09:47] <xenol> matthew and r u sure that it cant be in linux client ?
[09:47] <matthew> xenol, moderately sure...linux doesn't do virii
[09:47] <genii> matthew have youi tried "top" in a console to see what the resource hogs are?
[09:47] <xenol> well not in cleint
[09:47] <xenol> but network
[09:48] <genii> I sure wish they'd open-source gizmoproject already
[09:48] <matthew> yeah...it's mainly xorg, then java (for azureus), then superkaramba, then skype when I'm talking.
[09:49] <[GuS] > guys, there is any howto around to build repositories with falcon?
[09:49] <matthew> genii, that was at you, sorry....
[09:50] <matthew> genii, yeah...it's mainly xorg, then java (for azureus), then superkaramba, then skype when I'm talking.
[09:50] <ryanakca> Can someone help me get gpg + kmail set up please?
[09:50] <endo602> hello... Can anyone help me mount shared windows folders to my linux box?
[09:50] <DaSkreech> !ru
[09:50] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:50] <endo602> I am getting errors I dont understand
[09:50] <genii> matthew Maybe try to place the soundcard on some isolated resources (irq not shared etc)
[09:51] <matthew> genii, ok. (here we go again!) how do I do that?
[09:51] <mkl986> salve ragazzi
[09:51] <erik__> anybody from Brazil?
[09:51] <mkl986> ho bisogno di aiuto
[09:51] <mkl986> di tanto aiuto e tanta pazienza
[09:51] <mkl986> qualcuno ha tempo da dedicarmi?
[09:52] <DaSkreech> xenol: Edubuntu has Gnome with KDE programs
[09:52] <fdoving> !it | mkl986
[09:52] <ubotu> mkl986: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:52] <matthew> mkl986, nadie aqui habla tu lengua...creo
[09:52] <mkl986> sorry
[09:52] <mindspin> the "windows" icon looks very geeky ;-)
[09:52] <mkl986> tnx and bye bye
[09:52] <mindspin> oops
[09:52] <DaSkreech> !inkscape > xenol
[09:52] <mindspin> wrong channel
[09:53] <genii> matthew LOL .. well, I would reboot, go into bios and see if you can find the "Integrated PEripherals" section or similar. Most bios have a place there to disable or configure the devices. If soundcard uses some interrupt shared (especially with network adapter) try to put it on an isolated IRQ, or with a device not using video or network
[09:53] <genii> eg: modem, serial port or USB, etc
[09:54] <xenol> daskreech hey is inkspace good?
[09:54] <matthew> genii, ah, okey doke...brb
[09:54] <endo602> can some one help me with mounting shared folders?
[09:55] <Sensae> Hello
[09:55] <erik__> What the channel to the Kubuntu Brazil?
[09:55] <DaSkreech> xenol: It's inkscape :)
[09:55] <DaSkreech> !br
[09:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:56] <endo602> sensa can you help me
[09:56] <endo602> ?
[09:56] <DaSkreech> endo602: have you tried samba?
[09:56] <endo602> yeah
[09:56] <xenol> lol
[09:56] <xenol> !inkscape
[09:56] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[09:56] <endo602> i get an error
[09:56] <BrianSteffens|zz> can someone tell me why i might randomly not be able to empty trash of a certain file? it's rather frustrating when i delete a large, complex directory structure and then have to use terminal to navigate to the trash and manually sudo rm *, sudo rmdir * etc
[09:56] <DaSkreech> endo602: did you try smb:// in konqueror?
[09:56] <korotan> thzt
[09:56] <endo602> i'll try that now
[09:56] <DaSkreech> It has nothing to do with space xenol :)
[09:56] <Sensae> I just installed Kubuntu alongside Windows XP, GRUB's working fine. I have two accounts, one's for a friend and limited, the other I use for system stuff. I changed the resolution in my admin account, and now he can't log on. He gets "Cannot run kstartupconfig"
[09:57] <endo602> its asking me for authentication when I didnt specify any
[09:58] <genii> endo use the name windoze uses when it asks you to login (eg: administrator or home user etc etc)
[09:58] <fdoving> Sensae: how limited is his account? kstartupconfig should always be available, at /usr/bin/kstartupconfig
[09:58] <endo602> NICE
[09:58] <endo602> how do I got about mounting it?
[09:59] <Sensae> fdoving: Mainly just can't su/sudo
[09:59] <genii> endo Do you just want to navigate to it and pull files or have the linux box mount it to a dir when you boot etc?
[09:59] <xenol> daskreech i know mistype btw why is my konqueror kinda sluggish?
[09:59] <Sensae> fdoving: However, when I created it before I added him to any groups I could log on with his account. And the only group he was in was his account's group
[09:59] <yelonek> what is sluggish ?
[10:00] <touchscreen> Can someone tell me how to get kubuntu to recognize my usb touchscreen monitor? I've modprobed all the drivers that Kubuntu has in the touchscreen directory, but non e of them work.
[10:00] <erik__> Algum pd me explicar como que eu acesso o canal ubuntu-br?
[10:00] <_kuja_> Sensae: back up his folder, delete the username/folder, recreate it, assumign it hasn't been too heavily customized. Failsafe way to fix it everytime :)
[10:00] <fdoving> Sensae: hmm.. if you login to his account from console ctrl+alt+f1, (ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X).. can you run /usr/bin/kstartupconfig directly?
[10:01] <Sensae> _kuja_: This is an install that happened last night. I just migrated him from Ubuntu, so all his files are still on a backup
[10:01] <_kuja_> with the startx or startkde commands. Give it a try if you think it'll work.
[10:01] <Sensae> fdoving: Lemme go try that, his system's in a different room, brb
[10:01] <endo602> genii, yes
[10:01] <fdoving> yelonek: sluggish is slow, slow motion, or something like that.
[10:02] <endo602> 10734: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[10:02] <endo602> SMB connection failed
[10:02] <endo602> that is the error i get
[10:02] <Sensae> fdoving: Trying to create local folder //.kde permission denied
[10:03] <genii> endo602 right now I am on a windoze box ... you may find something useful with "man smbfs"
[10:03] <touchscreen> Can someone tell me how to get kubuntu to recognize my usb touchscreen monitor? I've modprobed all the drivers that Kubuntu has in the touchscreen directory, but non e of them work.
[10:03] <_kuja_> Sensae: try this:
[10:03] <genii> endo It should give you the syntax for putting the password/username
[10:03] <fdoving> Sensae: ah.. as your user run 'sudo chown hisusername.hisusergroup -R /home/hisusername'
[10:04] <_kuja_> sudo chown HISUSERNAME:HISUSERNAME /home/HISUSERNAME
[10:04] <fdoving> :)
[10:04] <_kuja_> erm, and yes, I forgot the -R
[10:05] <Sensae> fdoving: Okay, should I change /home/name to his actual home? This is a windows/kubuntu dualboot that shares a fat32 partition, his home is /media/fiels
[10:05] <Sensae> */media/files
[10:05] <_kuja_> and it would seem fdoving and I thought exactly the same thing at the exactly the same time and both of us decided to say hisusername..... weird.
[10:05] <fdoving> Sensae: that explains why this doesn't work. his home can't safely be kept on a fat32 partition.
[10:05] <_kuja_> Sensae, yes, you should
[10:05] <Sensae> Really? Hrm
[10:06] <fdoving> _kuja_: that's funny, hisusername :)
[10:06] <fdoving> Sensae: I recommend keeping the home at /home/hisusername and make a link from his /home/hisusername/winfiles to -> /media/files..
[10:06] <sparrw> where can i find a list of features, or included software, on the kubuntu 6.10 cd?
[10:06] <fdoving> .. or something like that.
[10:07] <_kuja_> Sensae, change the home to something such as /home/hisusername, just so you can have it back on a linux compatible partition.
[10:08] <_kuja_> This is insane ... Kopete's using 134MB of RAM. Bah.
[10:09] <Sensae> Yeah. I just changed his home back and it logs in fine
[10:09] <_kuja_> sparrw, one sec
[10:09] <genii> sparrw If in your /etc/apt/sources.list all the entries except the cdrom entry are commented out , apt-get update will return only those packages which are contained on the cd
[10:09] <Sensae> Bah, I don't remember how to enable ssh
[10:10] <xenol> plz someone can tell me where i can see review of kde based programs?
[10:10] <genii> perhaps /etc/default/sshd ?
[10:11] <sparrw> genii: i was hoping for something higher level
[10:11] <DaSkreech> xenol: Kde-apps.org
[10:11] <DaSkreech> Or some such
[10:12] <kblog> does anybody here know the problem with 3d-acceleration since an update about a week ago? (probably it was an upgrade from dapper to edgy via adept)
[10:12] <LeeJunFan> Sensae: I've never done anything to enable it other than install the server portion of it.
[10:13] <genii> sparrw In the dists/<suitename>/main/binary-i386   and dists/<suitename>/universe/binary-i386 there are Packages files etc
[10:13] <xenol> daskreech do u know how can i erase temp of konqueror?
[10:13] <_kuja_> sparrw, kubuntu comes with kde, kate, konqueror, krita, ksnapshot, gwenview, konversation, kopete, ktorrent, some wireless tools, amarok, k3b, kaffeine, adept package manager, and openoffice, among other things
[10:13] <genii> cat Packages|grep deb etc etc
[10:14] <DaSkreech> temp?
[10:14] <xenol> cache
[10:14] <DaSkreech> Oh
[10:14] <DaSkreech> Umm
[10:14] <xenol> and histrory
[10:14] <fdoving> genii: cat Packages is unnecessary, 'grep bah Packages' :)
[10:14] <xenol> i know it is in configure konqueror menu
[10:14] <xenol> but it doesnt delete histroy
[10:14] <xenol> history
[10:14] <fdoving> genii: piping is slow, using grep directly is faster.
[10:14] <ubuntu_> !french
[10:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:14] <genii> fdoving :) I have to think linearly
[10:15] <DaSkreech> xenol: There is a clear history like two options above cache
[10:15] <kay> !linux
[10:15] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[10:15] <kay> !laptop
[10:15] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[10:15] <unix_infidel> kay: which laptop?
[10:16] <kay> gericom
[10:16] <kay> :)
[10:16] <DaSkreech> !windows
[10:16] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:16] <kay> nooo
[10:16] <kay> i only take linux
[10:16] <_kuja_> Hahahaha!
[10:16] <kay> but dont know what for
[10:16] <unix_infidel> http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/gericom.html
[10:16] <xenol> i c THX
[10:16] <genii> heh 'your nearest health institute'
[10:16] <kay> thx
[10:17] <DaSkreech> !mac
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <DaSkreech> Dumb bot :)
[10:17] <genii> !imac
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <DaSkreech> !apple
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <xenol> "ipod
[10:17] <xenol> !ipod
[10:17] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[10:17] <DaSkreech> Hm so we don't care about them
[10:17] <genii> !basilisk2
[10:17] <ubotu> basilisk2: 68k Macintosh emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.20050730-1 (edgy), package size 268 kB, installed size 784 kB
[10:18] <unix_infidel> please /query the bot if you need his assistance.
[10:18] <xenol> !ubotu
[10:18] <unix_infidel> his / her....whatever :P
[10:18] <DaSkreech> it
[10:18] <tony__> hello, i want to install XGL so i can get the nice desktop effect . is it easy to isntal ? im new to linux
[10:19] <tony__> cube and other effects
[10:19] <kay> unix_infidel: thx for this link
[10:19] <genii> !ppc
[10:19] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[10:19] <TheDebugger> tony__: You want beryl
[10:19] <kay> but how do i know which linux is best for my notebook or other which linux ios small and fast?
[10:20] <unix_infidel> that's a reference link dude.
[10:20] <tony__> thanks . is beryl any easy to install and is it avalible as a kubuntu pacakge >
[10:20] <unix_infidel> google for your laptop model make and whichever linux distribution you wish to use.
[10:20] <kay> hm...
[10:21] <ubuntu__> hello
[10:21] <AlexC_> Heym
[10:21] <AlexC_> How do I install KDE themes?
[10:21] <genii> Anyone compiled Conexant HSF or HCF drivers against Edgy yet?
[10:22] <AlexC_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=49585 - this theme, how do I install that - I'm confused lol
[10:22] <AlexC_> not as easy as Gnome's drag n drop!
[10:22] <endo602> for somereason this mounting isnt work
[10:22] <ubuntu__> AlexC go to ubuntulooks.org or someting (google it)
[10:22] <endo602> working in konsole
[10:22] <imagine_> Is there a nice howto on how to install AIGLX/BERYL on Kubuntu Edgy?
[10:22] <tony__> ALso , are there any messenger with Webcam capablity for linux or is it only Gaim ???
[10:22] <mhb> hi all
[10:22] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: Hello
[10:22] <AlexC_> tony__: gaim doesn't have webcam
[10:22] <tony__> are there any option
[10:22] <DaSkreech> Kopete does
[10:23] <AlexC_> yes, Kopete
[10:23] <tony__> ahh. ok thanks
[10:23] <AlexC_> ubuntu__ ? Ubuntulooks.org ? I did google but I get nothing
[10:24] <AlexC_> how do I insatll .qtfiles?
[10:24] <ubuntu__> AlexC: Sorry I meant  http://www.kde-look.org, didn't see your line untill after typing mine
[10:24] <AlexC_> and deKorator themes .... what they they may be
[10:24] <imagine_> IN order to install stuff on Kubuntu, can I use the same howto has the one for Ubuntu
[10:25] <genii> endo602 On your windoze box do you have the shares as read/write?
[10:25] <AlexC_> ubuntu__ I have been on there, that's where I got the theme from - but it doesn't say how to install it?
[10:25] <mhb> I have a rather crazy question. I'm kind of bored with the KDE's UI. The kicker in Edgy is nice, the window decorations too ... but I start to dislike the grey in the menus and widgets. But I don't want to simply change it to another color.
[10:25] <AlexC_> I'm a noob when it comes to KDE, been a Gnome junkie for a year lol
[10:26] <endo602> genii, yes
[10:26] <mhb> I want the menu/widget style to be a bit "prettier", more colourful, or more polished ... but simply: not so much grey
[10:26] <imagine_> AlexC_: ty ^
[10:26] <AlexC_> hum? what did I do lol
[10:26] <endo602> genii, i believe so
[10:27] <mhb> that's what I like on the Mac OS X or Vista screenshots ... the grey isn't everywhere as opposed to a Kubuntu KDE style dialogue.
[10:27] <AlexC_> =\ well geee I can't find anywhere to install themes lol
[10:27] <DaSkreech> AlexC_: Simple to say it's not drag and drop
[10:27] <DaSkreech>  is there a README in the file?
[10:27] <mhb> can someone recommend me a theme that isn't so grey and is more graphically pleasing?
[10:27] <AlexC_> yeah, I discovered that by my self. DaSkreech nope
[10:27] <genii> endo602 If you right-click on the folder and select Sharing then look at the properties... in XP at least you need to have total access allowed (probably 2K as well)
[10:28] <endo602> ive done that
[10:28] <AlexC_> just a .qtfile an kcsrs file, which I have installed! a deKorator theme ( what the hell is that? ) which I havn't installed
[10:28] <genii> endo I'll see if I can find you a sample fstab entry for smbfs
[10:28] <endo602> thanks
[10:28] <endo602> genii,  i checked out the wiki
[10:30] <AlexC_> meh I'll find it out later! cya guys!
[10:30] <gumi> do u have any problem whit *ace??
[10:31] <ubuntu____> Hi, Im Tilk, who was talking to you few minutes ago. I still need to create new partition in Kubuntu 6.06 Now I write you from LiveCD Kubuntu but I still cant resize hda1 partition. When I right click on /dev/hda it sais deviace status;busy ... it think it could mean something...that partition, I wanna resize is in use. But I dont know why, I restarted computer and run the systen from LiveCD
[10:31] <genii> endo eg: in /etc/fstab              //server/share    /mnt/tmp   smbfs   noauto,username=administrator,password=  0 0        then: mount /mnt/tmp
[10:32] <rance> Can someone point me in the right direction,  I recently upgraded dhcp client and my last reboot that broke my server, I have some supersede lines in my dhclient.conf file and dhpc3 is no longer using them.
[10:32] <genii> for //server/share   you want IP if possible
[10:32] <Sensae> I just did an apt-get install sun-java-bin, how do I set it up to work with Firefox?
[10:32] <genii> eg:   //192.168.0.101/sharedfoldername
[10:32] <rance> this is a bad deal becuase without those supersede lines, sudo no longer works as it can validate a hostname
[10:33] <LBB> Sensae: are you sure it is not set up allready (maybe after a reboot)
[10:33] <genii> endo Otherwise you need to find the name of your windoze box (the machine name not the login name)
[10:33] <Sensae> LBB: Lemme try a restart
[10:35] <touchscreen> Can someone tell me how to make this Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1391:1000 into the /dev/usbwhatever format so i can put it in my xorg?
[10:35] <LBB> Anyone  know why it could be that unhide (hd0,1) in grub does not work, or how I should unhide a partition otherwise? I painted myself in a corner an am writing you from a Live-CD
[10:38] <Sensae> LBB: Nope, it just doesn't work
[10:39] <LBB> does adept say it is installed OK?
[10:39] <BluesKaj> LBB, do you have GParted partition utlilty? it runs as a live cd and can rearrage, resize and create partitions and also rename them
[10:39] <ubuntu__> Hi. I used this command to mount my windows(NTFS)- drive. But I cant access it. Why and how do I access it ?
[10:39] <Sensae> No clue. I'm using apt-get through ssh
[10:39] <ubuntu__> #mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_ntfs
[10:40] <notech> was mounted with root access only
[10:40] <ubuntu__> notech: but shouldnt i be able to access it with Sudo then?
[10:41] <LBB> BluesKaj: you mean QtParted? I have that but don't know how to unhide a parttition (I know how to do the other things you mentioned)
[10:41] <notech> try mount -t ntfs -o umask=0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_ntfs
[10:41] <ubuntu__> ok thanks, will give it a try
[10:41] <Sensae> LBB: The install in terminal went fine
[10:42] <notech> hm, actually -o umask=0 might belong at the end ubuntu__
[10:42] <notech> not sure it matters
[10:43] <LBB> Sensae have you got a way to check the install
[10:43] <Sensae> HOld on, brb
[10:44] <ubuntu____> Hello friends. Does any body know why cant I use qtparted for resize root partition<
[10:44] <endo602> genii,  here is the output [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[10:44] <BluesKaj> no LBB, GParted , not the Qparted ... Gparted is much more stable and easier to use
[10:44] <tony__> where can i find info on beryl ?
[10:45] <xenol> !beryl
[10:45] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:45] <xenol> daskreech do u know how many MB i have to download in order to upgrade to edgy?
[10:45] <endo602> worked
[10:45] <genii> endo make sure you go to the end of the line you entered and then hit "enter to get to the line under it then save again
[10:46] <JohnFlux> xenol: between 400MB to 1GB
[10:46] <_kuja_> ooh, k3b 1.0 RC is out :)
[10:46] <LBB> KluesKaj: bash: Gparted: command not found
[10:46] <JohnFlux> _kuja_: oo, what's new?
[10:46] <_kuja_> not much, if you've used th e 1.0pre releases, have you?
[10:46] <JohnFlux> LBB: gparted
[10:47] <LBB> bash: gparted: command not found
[10:47] <BluesKaj> LBB , if you have access to another pc , DL  Gparted and burn it to a cd ...it's alive cd and you do the commands required from with in the cd
[10:47] <_kuja_> At any rate, 1.0 features usability improvements, and dvd ripping :)
[10:47] <LBB> I'm on a kubuntu live-CD
[10:47] <_kuja_> Among probably other things, I think litescribe support was one of them
[10:48] <_kuja_> LBB, QtParted
[10:49] <LBB> BluesKaj: should't unhide(hd0,1) just work? I mean I think I have a problem other than wrong software
[10:49] <BluesKaj> QT Parted can work but it's not easy to use for noobs _kuja_ ...I know from personal expreience
[10:49] <_kuja_> It's not that hard either ... compare with fdisk or parted ;)
[10:49] <LBB> kuja: I have QtParted and know how to work it, but not how to unhide
[10:50] <_kuja_> LBB, what'd hidden?
[10:50] <BluesKaj> can't he just make it 'active' ?
[10:51] <LBB> kuja: my hd0,1
[10:51] <genii> endo602 I need to leave this computer and go to my next work where there will be another computer. Are you getting anywhere? I will return in about 45 minutes.
[10:51] <ForgeAus> grrr... Knoppix is a pain compared to kubuntu
[10:51] <ForgeAus> but I overloaded my Kubuntu VM and it died! lol
[10:51] <ForgeAus> this knoppix doesn't even have a root password
[10:52] <genii> ForgeAus well, neither should Kubuntu have a root password normally
[10:52] <endo602> genii, thanks.  will this auto mount for me
[10:52] <ForgeAus> genii then how do I install packages into it?
[10:52] <LBB> BluesKaj: I just made it active in QtParted, Is that thae same as unhiding it?
[10:53] <genii> endo602 Right now it is set to "noauto" in the fstab if you put that in. which means you have to type in "mount /mnt/place" manually. If you WANT it to auto-mount, change the "noauto" to "auto"
[10:53] <genii> endo602 Tho I would recommend against it
[10:54] <genii> ForgeAus sudo apt-get etc etc       or alternately    sudo su      then operate as root to do whatever, then: exit
[10:54] <endo602> genii,  y?
[10:55] <ForgeAus> genii if it doesn't have a root password then how?
[10:55] <genii> endo602 Because if you do not have the windoze machine powered up every time and on the network before you boot the linux box, it can hang
[10:57] <genii> ForgeAus the default user is granted sudo rights eg: in sudoers file or else in group of admin which is allowed to sudoi using their own login password to authenticate their right to do so
[10:58] <Rob-West> i cant install gnome
[10:59] <genii> I have to go now or I will be late :) See you all in ~45mins
[10:59] <Rob-West> !pastebin
[10:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:59] <Rob-West> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37980/
[10:59] <Rob-West> theres my problem
[10:59] <knapp> Anyone here familiar with using GTKPOD?
[10:59] <testman> hi
[11:00] <LBB> BlusKaj: I guess I'll just go try it, thanks!
[11:00] <HymnToLife> !anyone | knapp
[11:00] <ubotu> knapp: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:00] <testman> how can i play divx and xvid files under kubuntu?
[11:00] <HymnToLife> testman, I personnally use kaffeine-xine, which was successful at playing everything I threw at it
[11:01] <testman> HymnToLife: i installed it with no success
[11:01] <testman> i installed all the xine stuff
[11:01] <knapp> ubotu: Sorry, it's a bad habbit I can't shake. Anyway...
[11:01] <testman> also w32codecs
[11:01] <knapp> oooooooops
[11:01] <HymnToLife> Rob-West, install ubuntu-desktop instead
[11:01] <jamesb_> xsnow won't snow - nothing happens for me, neither on Breezy at work or edgy at home - any help appreciated - extremely important app this week :-D
[11:01] <aleksanteri> anyone knows a command to reconfigure the internet connection?
[11:01] <Rob-West> so reinstall
[11:02] <HymnToLife> testman, have you installed libxine-extracodecs ?
[11:02] <knapp> How do I get GTKPOD to read the album art.jpg in each directory and upload it to the ipod?
[11:02] <Rob-West> or can someone help me update firefox
[11:02] <HymnToLife> Rob-West, there's a page in the Wiki about installing the Mozilla.com build of FF
[11:02] <jamesb_> aleksanteri: tried the System Settings -> Network Settings menu?
[11:03] <testman> HymnToLife: no, this package is not in my apt-cache
[11:03] <HymnToLife> hmm
[11:03] <HymnToLife> !libxine-extracodecs
[11:03] <HymnToLife> !info libxine-extracodecs
[11:03] <HymnToLife> weird
[11:03] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[11:03] <HymnToLife> testman, multiverse enabled ?
[11:04] <towync> lol thank god i have my kde desktop back
[11:04] <Rob-West> why
[11:04] <Rob-West> brb
[11:04] <towync> yesterday someone said to comment out everything in xorg.conf that had to do with wacom, i did that
[11:04] <testman> HymnToLife: i guess, this is my sources.list http://rafb.net/paste/results/JreQY541.html
[11:05] <towync> and it never let me back to kde till now i just uncommented those lines in vim
[11:05] <endo602> How do i make vlc my default video player?
[11:05] <HymnToLife> testman, remove the spaces in front of lines 16/17/26/27/31/32
[11:05] <HymnToLife> also, be sure to run apt-get update before
[11:05] <towync> btw i know ctrl alt f1 gets me to console mode, is there a shortcut to get me back from console mode to kde mode?
[11:06] <HymnToLife> towync, Alt+F7
[11:06] <testman> HymnToLife: i did it, same as before
[11:06] <HymnToLife> not 100% suire, it can be F8, or F9, but it's sth like that :p
[11:07] <HymnToLife> no way
[11:07] <HymnToLife> package _is_ in multiverse
[11:07] <corbeau> !french
[11:07] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:08] <_kuja_> endo602, you can right click on the file, click on the wrench for edit file type, and it'll let you change the application preference order for that type of file. (for example, avi, or ogm, or wmv)
[11:09] <nivek> kuja_, is that you?
[11:10] <nivek> or is this a different kuka
[11:10] <nivek> kuja*
[11:10] <_kuja_> I don't know, which one are you expecting?
[11:11] <nivek> kuja, no its not the kuja i thought i know
[11:11] <nivek> :P
[11:11] <_kuja_> amazing.
[11:11] <maki> hello
[11:12] <testman> HymnToLife: i got it, i changed my sources.list to http://rafb.net/paste/results/sNSJya37.html and now it works :) thx buddy
[11:12] <animimotus> hi
[11:13] <HymnToLife> testman, you're welcome :)
[11:13] <animimotus> Digikam 0.9.0 has been released http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=42641
[11:13] <animimotus> how can we have the deb ? by Debian ?
[11:13] <_kuja_> What's new in 0.9.0?
[11:15] <maki> are there another newbie's around
[11:16] <BluesKaj> ask yer question maki
[11:17] <_kuja_> animimotus, I might be able to whip together a quick deb for it, if there's good reason to do so, anyway.
[11:17] <maki> ?
[11:18] <Rob-West> can someone help me find VIA integrated video drivers for Kubuntu
[11:20] <sparrw> how can i print in landscape orientation from inkscape?  or what lossless format can inkscape export to that i can print in landscape from another program?
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Rob-West, http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=3&FCat=20
[11:23] <_kuja_> sparrw, you could export to png if I remember right
[11:26] <_kuja_> Now where in the world did I dump that at ... can't remember where I installed k3b-pre2
[11:27] <sparrw> _kuja_: and then what?
[11:27] <allee> animimotus: debian has no digikam 0.9 debs  (etch is maybe even released with 0.8.2).  Most recent is 0.9 rc2 in feisty.  I've backported to edgy too
[11:27] <_kuja_> open the png in any graphics program ie: gwenview, and print
[11:28] <sparrw> tried gimp, it prints the right size but wont print landscape (guess i can try actually rotating the image...)
[11:28] <sparrw> tried krita, it wont print it at all
[11:28] <allee> there has not that much changed to urgently jump to 0.9.  Hopefully I find time tonight to do 0.9 feisty/edgy  (tonight I was busy)
[11:28] <Rob-West> !java
[11:28] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:29] <Rob-West> how do i install Java from commandlines
[11:29] <_kuja_> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[11:29] <animimotus> allee: ok, someone has give me this line : apt-cache madison digikam
[11:29] <Rob-West> im used to Automatix
[11:30] <yopp> !french
[11:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:30] <_kuja_> sparrw, and what of gwenview, or konqueror?
[11:30] <sparrw> gwenview prints it ridiculously zoomed in
[11:30] <Rob-West> and automatix wont install
[11:30] <_kuja_> Well, the original was a vector graphic, so I suppose zooming in coulnd't hurt it too much.
[11:31] <_kuja_> sparrw: you could probably scale it before printing, if it printed way too big, though.
[11:31] <goodthing> erm, anyone knows the command to force a fsck?
[11:31] <allee> animimotus: madison just lists what avaiable.   Are you using feisty or edgy
[11:31] <allee> +?
[11:31] <_kuja_> e2fsck for ext2/3 partitions
[11:31] <sparrw> _kuja_: scale it how?  i dont want some random size, i want it the RIGHT size
[11:32] <animimotus> allee: Edgy
[11:32] <sparrw> aha!
[11:32] <goodthing> man fsck does not list a force option
[11:32] <sparrw> rotated the image in gimp
[11:32] <_kuja_> sparrw: could scale it in gimp or krita?
[11:32] <sparrw> now its bearable
[11:32] <allee> animimotus: rc2 at http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/edgy/Pkgs.php
[11:32] <allee> animimotus: and in the next 1-2 days 0.9
[11:32] <Arvid> Where canI find "dircolors"? My gentoo-machine has it so I can get colors in my terminal when i list all my files?
[11:33] <Rob-West> what all web plugins do i need
[11:33] <animimotus> allee: thanks a lot
[11:33] <goodthing> ah, e2fsck does had a force, t.h.a.n.k.s _kuja_ :)
[11:33] <_kuja_> arvid, edit your ~/.bashrc file
[11:33] <goodthing> *had
[11:33] <allee> animimotus: np
[11:33] <goodthing> *haS...
[11:34] <aleksanteri> what's the command to reconfigure internet connection?
[11:35] <Arvid> _kuja_: to what? Right now i just copied my .bashrc from my gentoo-machine, and now i complains about "dircolors" - how should my .bashrc then look?
[11:35] <_kuja_> aleksanteri, depends what you need to do with it, you can do quite a bit in network settings in systemsettings
[11:35] <_kuja_> arvid, I'll show you m ine, one sec
[11:35] <_kuja_> !pastebin | kuja
[11:35] <ubotu> kuja: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:35] <Arvid> _kuja_: thanks (and here's mine, just in case :P http://bottiger.com/paste/lJOK6F8ayPzCPPEkM36h )
[11:36] <aleksanteri> !reconfigure internet connection
[11:36] <aleksanteri> " Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"
[11:36] <aleksanteri> O_o
[11:37] <aleksanteri> !configure internet
[11:37] <aleksanteri> !gimp
[11:37] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[11:37] <_kuja_> Arvid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37988/
[11:37] <aleksanteri> :P
[11:38] <Arvid> _kuja_: thanks - I'll try it
[11:38] <BluesKaj> !dhcp
[11:38] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[11:38] <_kuja_> You can cut out some of the parts at the bottom, related specifically to my home bin folder and java6
[11:39] <ryanakca> imbrandon: happy bday
[11:39] <knapp> Is it possible to submit album art to your ipod using gktpod?
[11:40] <knapp> gtkpod*
[11:47] <ubuntu> can anyone help me?
[11:47] <ubuntu> jucato?
[11:48] <_kuja_> whatcha need?
[11:48] <ubuntu> i'm trying to fresh install from edgy to feisty, but every time i reboot, it goes to edgy
[11:48] <yelonek> !sp
[11:48] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[11:49] <mkl986> sorry italian chat?
[11:49] <yelonek> !it
[11:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:49] <gnomefreak> mkl986: #kubuntu-it
[11:49] <paranoid_android> hi there. id like to know if its possible to disable the server MOTD in konversation?? thank you :)
[11:49] <mkl986> tnx
[11:49] <_kuja_> feisty? experimenting eh?
[11:49] <animimotus> one question please about restricted codecs : sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libakode2-mpeg w32codecs          installe the all paquake for Kubuntu like said inhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-74857744ddf74499c6447a19c7e94a2fcb382e0c ?
[11:49] <ubuntu> yeah
[11:49] <_kuja_> At the grub list, make sure you select the feisty kernel?
[11:49] <animimotus> the codec list for ubuntu seems to be longer :)
[11:49] <yelonek> !flex
[11:49] <ubuntu> can i remove the other kernel?
[11:49] <ubotu> flex: A fast lexical analyzer generator.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.33-4 (edgy), package size 220 kB, installed size 936 kB
[11:50] <_kuja_> ubuntulog: I wouldn't, but I suppose you could, you would just be left with nothing to fall back to should something go wrong in feisty, which would be bad.
[11:51] <ubuntu> no, i just want 1 OS installed
[11:51] <_kuja_> I've got my feisty running in vmware ... more convenient and there's no chance of it screwing things up for me :)
[11:52] <ubuntu> yes but i don't want to do that
[11:52] <_kuja_> ubuntulog: then go ahead and remove it? It would be something like linux-image-generic-`uname -r` I would presume
[11:52] <yelonek> _kuja_ :D i'm running virtual linux too, but it's damn slow
[11:52] <ubuntu> i want to format the drive
[11:52] <_kuja_> yelonek: only on slow machines :P
[11:52] <yelonek> 1,5Ghz Celeron + 512 MB RAM
[11:52] <_kuja_> It performs acceptably for me, then again I've got an FX-60 and 2 gb of ram
[11:53] <yelonek> whoa ;)
[11:53] <_kuja_> 1.5GHz Celeron .... ouch
[11:53] <paranoid_android> lol
[11:53] <yelonek> it's laptop which i bought year ago :P
[11:53] <ubuntu> can i format at install?
[11:53] <yelonek> in Poland :P
[11:53] <paranoid_android> oh you people with super pumped machines, forgetting what current selling standards for desktops are >_<
[11:53] <paranoid_android> lol
[11:54] <_kuja_> ubuntulog: You could just delete your edgy partition prior to setting up feisty and that would set things up the way you want.
[11:54] <LBB> Hi everyone
[11:54] <BluesKaj> gamrz ! as if that's important :)
[11:54] <BluesKaj> hey LBB , how is ti going now ?
[11:55] <LBB> BluesKaj: still on a live-CD
[11:55] <ubuntu> how can i format the drive?
[11:55] <_kuja_> paranoid_android: my fx-60 is already feeling its age ... it can barely outperform a Celeron Duo (or whatever weird marketing phrase intel is throwing out now)
[11:55] <LBB> ubuntu: qtparted
[11:55] <_kuja_> ubuntulog: parted, fdisk, gparted, qtparted, cfdisk, take your pick.
[11:55] <ubuntu> can i enter that at bootup?
[11:55] <paranoid_android> _kuja_, that still kicks most retail computer's bottoms easily your machine!! lol
[11:56] <_kuja_> Darned straight it does :D
[11:56] <LBB> ubuntu; qtparted is in the system menu
[11:56] <ironfroggy_LT> has anyone here use sshfs before?
[11:56] <ironfroggy_LT> or fuse in general. im getting lots of permission problems on the fuse binaries and devices.
[11:56] <lupine_85> ironfroggy_LT: I just use fish://
[11:56] <BluesKaj> bragging rights ...that lasts for about 10 seconds , then what ?
[11:57] <ubuntu_> hi there
[11:57] <ironfroggy_LT> lupine_85: need it available to other things, like darcs.
[11:57] <ironfroggy_LT> plus things like amarok are stupid and refuse remote files.
[11:57] <LBB> Anyone know how to unhide a partition? My machine just loads Grub stage 1.5 then gives error 17
[11:57] <_kuja_> then you eventually get desperate and drop $1000 on a phase change cooler, and have bragging rights for another year or two
[11:57] <yelonek> can someone help me with compilation of cedega?
[11:57] <yelonek> i'm having lots of errors
[11:58] <goodthing> aleksanteri: just edit some file like /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking and be done with it. Though the kde system settings are probably easier
[11:58] <yelonek> someone told me i got bad flex package
[11:58] <yelonek> i changed it to what he said, but that didn't change anything
[11:58] <_kuja_> Now, if only I had the money for that phase change cooler I saw a while back :(
[11:58] <LBB> BluesKaj: I made the boot partition active, but no change
[11:58] <BluesKaj> What about GAG , the GUI bootloader? , you may be able load that on to the HDD from the live cd
[11:59] <ironfroggy_LT> does fuse include a kernel component, and if so do i need to do anything to "enable" it after installation?
[11:59] <LBB> how
[11:59] <BluesKaj> it writes to the first block on the HDD
[11:59] <_kuja_> does GAG come with HACK and COUGH by chance?
[11:59] <yelonek> i'm using WineCVS.sh script
[11:59] <BluesKaj> ha -ha _kuja_ , check it out
[11:59] <yelonek> some of errors:
[12:00] <yelonek> ./ppl.l:1337: warning: implicit declaration of function max
[12:00] <yelonek> ./ppl.l:1337: error: ALLOCBLOCKSIZE undeclared (first use in this function)
[12:00] <_kuja_> now to fire up k3b 1.0RC2 for the first time :)
[12:00] <BluesKaj> http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[12:00] <LBB> BluesKaj: how do I boot it when all my machine does is say:loading grub stage 1.5 error 17
[12:00] <_kuja_> Looks like growisofs 7 is out ...
[12:00] <LBB> sorry dumb question
[12:01] <_kuja_> Oooooh, K3b can integrate with Konqueror now!
[12:01] <LBB> BluesKaj I'll go find it, thanks
[12:02] <solane> bonjour
[12:02] <ironfroggy_LT> do i have to mount fuse as root?
[12:02] <_kuja_> !french | solane
[12:02] <ubotu> solane: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:03] <solane> yes french
[12:03] <ironfroggy_LT> ok, what does it mean when `ls -l` shows ?s for all the columns of a mountpoint?
[12:04] <_kuja_> That's odd, ironfroggy_LT
[12:04] <ironfroggy_LT> i thought so as well. i ran sshfs with sudo, no errors.
[12:05] <ironfroggy_LT> now it shows the mountpoint with ?s in all columns, and tells me it doesnt exist if i try to do anything with it. even tho it shows up in listings.
[12:05] <solane> sorry i don't understand .... bye bye
[12:05] <_kuja_> bye
[12:06] <solane> and good night
[12:08] <yopp> !french
[12:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:08] <Dreamless> !danish
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about danish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Dreamless> Bugger :P
[12:09] <ironfroggy_LT> i see now that i dont have fuse-module isntalled. should that not have been included when i installed a fuse driver?
[12:09] <_kuja_> Not sure. If I had to deal with fuse I would probably blindly follow the ubuntu wiki to set it up
[12:10] <BluesKaj> !dn
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <BluesKaj> !da
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[12:10] <towync> why is it that when i use kaffein to play .wmv movies, there's only sound
[12:10] <Dreamless> BluesKaj i have tried to use gag without luck on a ubuntu/windows dualboot disk. It booted windows okay but linux failed..
[12:11] <Dreamless> BluesKaj thanks :)
[12:11] <ironfroggy_LT> because it doesnt work on some hardware.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> I had it working with Suse 10 and XP about 6 mos ago , then decided on kubuntu and been using GRUB ever since. ILBB's case i thought It might help him get out of the bootloader mess he seems to be in.
[12:12] <towync> ironfroggy_LT u weren't replying me right
[12:14] <JohnFlux> I have a usb hard disk that I want to always mount in a certain place..  is there a way to uniquely identify the hard disk in /etc/fstab ? since it might not always be /dev/sdc
[12:14] <_kuja_> bootloaders are always a mess.
[12:14] <BluesKaj> _kuja_, LBB's grub is screwed , how else can he rescue his installation ?
[12:14] <eilker> !webcam
[12:14] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:14] <ironfroggy_LT> towync: no
[12:14] <_kuja_> JohnFlux, perhaps with UUID
[12:15] <eilker> !UUID
[12:15] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[12:15] <_kuja_> BluesKaj, perhaps redo the grub-install?